[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> That leaves just over 10% for windows..
[12:01] <jrib> Nutubuntu: ok, what is in there?
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mattthat is enough for a basic install... go fo it
[12:01] <mattttttt> basic install for ubuntu?
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: that is enough
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> 1 gig swap 7 for Ub
[12:02] <mattttttt> i wish i could get the live CD working. I tried linux already though and liked it.
[12:02] <gatekeeper> Jack_Sparrow: some positive wibes at last :-)
[12:02] <mattttttt> so give ubuntu 7GB?
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: the live cd does not work?
[12:02] <Nutubuntu> jrib - two directories (language.d and updmap.d) and a file called language.dat.postinst-bak
[12:03] <vgoltser> live cd has trouble here too
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gatekeeper: :)
[12:03] <vgoltser> so, any players for linux that can stream to a shoutcast server?
[12:03] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: I get errors when trying to boot it. I did the check disk thing (not sure of the name offhand) and it failed.
[12:03] <haary> micahcowan: Thanks, but I found another soulution: edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de and then dpkg-reconfigure locales. This adds the desired locales
[12:03] <livingdaylight> ok
[12:03] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: many
[12:03] <vgoltser> ones that don'
[12:03] <vgoltser> ones that don't crash
[12:03] <SanketMedhi> ?
[12:03] <vgoltser> xmms crashes when streaming to one ...
[12:03] <micahcowan> haary, great. For my  own future reference, where did you find out about that?
[12:03] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: there are many of them search them
[12:03] <jrib> Nutubuntu: ok I would just rename /etc/texmf to /etc/texmf.backup and then try install tetex again.  That way if you do see you need something from your old configuration, it is still saved
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: If the checkdisk failed and it wont boot live you are heading down a dangerous path.
[12:03] <vgoltser> sanket, give me one
[12:04] <jvai_> totem can do it, but not automatically, u have to right clik on the file then choos totem to open it
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: get a good copy, order one free...
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> or 10
[12:04] <vgoltser> VLC, mplayer and totem seem to be missing the shoutcast feature
[12:04] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: sounds good to me, got to go to bed so good night and good luck, and good night to you to Jack_Sparrow too :-)
[12:04] <livingdaylight> anyone know what E: Package opera has no installation candidate could be about?
[12:04] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: hold on
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> night
[12:04] <livingdaylight> tried to install opera using the wiki
[12:04] <haary> micahcowan: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Lokalisierung (in german)
[12:04] <jrib> !opera
[12:04] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[12:04] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: Amarok does it
[12:05] <livingdaylight> jrib: its not in my add/remove programs for some reason (unfortunately)
[12:05] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: it's my computer then, not the live CD? the CD looks fine. someone got a bunch from shipit.ubuntu and gave one to me.
[12:05] <jvai_> when u dl the shoutcast stream, it's stored in the tmp folder
[12:05] <jrib> livingdaylight: after checking "show commercial applications"?
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> matt, do the self test
[12:05] <Nutubuntu> jrib - okay, did that ... I'll try to install tetex now
[12:05] <vgoltser> umm, I don't want to listen to a shoutcast stream
[12:05] <vgoltser> I want to make one
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt:  , do the self test
[12:05] <jvai_> ooo
[12:05] <micahcowan> haary, thanks for that. I was just about to discover something like it at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137306&highlight=locales
[12:05] <vgoltser> exactly
[12:05] <micahcowan> glad it's working for you now. :)
[12:06] <skavenge> livingdaylight: you did click on the commercial/unsupported apps checkboxes in add/remove right?
[12:06] <vgoltser> xmms has a plugin ... that crashes ...
[12:06] <jbaloul> hi all, does anyone know whats going on with microphone input...seems not to be working since latest upgrade
[12:06] <_atomic> hi
[12:06] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: the option that checks the disk? I did, and it failed. or something else?
[12:06] <n0l0nX> can anyone point me to a wifi pcmcia 802.11g card with linux support (no ndiswrapper)?
[12:06] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: amarok plays brilliantly
[12:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt:  either it failed or it passed, thaere are only two options'
[12:06] <dli> n0l0nX, quite many
[12:06] <livingdaylight> jrib: i see no commercial applications tab
[12:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Does someone want to help MAtttt I am losing patience...
[12:07] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: Shoutcast for linux itself can be used without a player
[12:07] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: it did fail....thats what i said
[12:07] <Paty> hola
[12:07] <skavenge> livingdaylight: its not a tab its a box under search in add/remove
[12:07] <vgoltser> sanket, where in amarok do I configure for shoutcast?
[12:07] <vgoltser> I know
[12:07] <livingdaylight> skavenge: no commercial/unsupported tab in my add/remove programs
[12:07] <dli> n0l0nX, might be outdated: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
[12:07] <_atomic> interest
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt:  you also said or something else..
[12:07] <livingdaylight> skavenge: i know what you mean
[12:07] <vgoltser> but I also want a player that can stream to shoutcast
[12:07] <n0l0nX> dli, actually I searched in the wiki, but I didnt find much
[12:07] <bunta> Hey folks :o
[12:07] <jbaloul> anyone ?
[12:07] <n0l0nX> dli, thanks for the link
[12:07] <godtvisken> Hm.. I am looking for a clean bittorrent client, something like uTorrent but for linux. What should I use?
[12:07] <bunta> Got a lovely keyboard problem & installation dependency for KDE
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: if you got a bad cd deal with it.  GEt another or download it
[12:07] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: that was meant to ask if "self test" is something else other than the disk check
[12:07] <bunta> Anyone got some time to spare? :P
[12:08] <dli> n0l0nX, also, get kernel source, have a look what's in there
[12:08] <chantecode> hi, could anyone helm me about a problem conrning nvidia and xorg?
[12:08] <livingdaylight> skavenge: i have accessories; education; games; graphics;internet; office etc
[12:08] <skavenge> applications -> add/remove, the boxes are right under the 'search:' option, im staring at it right now
[12:08] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: sorry I think that is Icecast not Shotcast.....shoutcast is proprietary and does not work with many players except its own
[12:08] <siennalizard> bunta: ask your question.
[12:08] <Nutubuntu> jrib - I am not sure why I originally installed texinfo, but I am sure I've never used it, so am not installing it this round :)   My goodness, those are big files -- I'm grateful for cable :)
[12:08] <jbaloul> does anyone know whats going on with microphone input...seems not to be working since latest upgrade
[12:08] <n0l0nX> dli, ok thanks
[12:08] <vgoltser> can winamp receive icecast?
[12:08] <dli> n0l0nX, preferrence order to me: rt2500 , zd1211 , madwifi
[12:08] <jrib> Nutubuntu: lucky, I had to do this on dial up :/
[12:09] <haary> micahcowan: Yes, this is the basically the same way
[12:09] <siennalizard> jbaloul: check the volume control/mixer. double click the speaker icon, top right.
[12:09] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: yes
[12:09] <vgoltser> good
[12:09] <Nutubuntu> jrib - ... ow ... :/
[12:09] <skavenge> livingdaylight: if theres no 'add/remove programs' right under applications i dont think your running dapper
[12:09] <livingdaylight> skavenge: there is add/remove programs
[12:09] <jbaloul> siennalizard its not that
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> skavenge: agreed
[12:10] <chantecode> I have a problem with nvidia driver: my screen turn himself off when I start my xorg server
[12:10] <skavenge> livingdaylight: thats what we've been saying this whole time!
[12:10] <livingdaylight> skavenge: i thought you're talking about inside of it
[12:10] <chantecode> could anyone help me
[12:10] <chantecode> ?
[12:10] <n0l0nX> dli, thanks =)
[12:10] <dli> chantecode, followed the nvidia binary driver howto?
[12:10] <Masticore> copy a whole folder is cp -rf ?
[12:10] <livingdaylight> skavenge: relax dude
[12:10] <Nutubuntu> jrib - Things look good; it's configuring tetex-bin without the error that was stopping it before ... and done :)
[12:10] <skavenge> livingdaylight: it is inside of it, under 'search:', there's two check boxes saying 'show unsupported apps' 'show commerical apps'
[12:10] <bunta> siennalizard, thanks.. lets start off with the simpler (I hope) of the two problems.. My keyboard layout seems to always reset to US upon a system restart/boot up. I want it to default to UK permanently.. What I usually do is simply go into the keyboard menu, and redo the whole setting it.. and it works, till the next restart
[12:10] <jrib> Nutubuntu: great
[12:10] <livingdaylight> skavenge: instead of getting hot under the colar check what i've written to you
[12:10] <SanketMedhi> Masticore: cp -R or else cp -a, see man cp
[12:10] <skavenge> livingdaylight: well it gets old repeating 12 times
[12:10] <chantecode> dli: Yep I followed the FAQ nvidia in ubuntu-fr website
[12:11] <Masticore> SanketMedhi: kkk
[12:11] <livingdaylight> skavenge: lol, well i told you i couldn't find the box, so why not tell my i got to type and serch for the damn thing : )
[12:11] <Nutubuntu> jrib - Now reinstalling kile ... and hopefully will be back with working LaTeX :)
[12:11] <skavenge> livingdaylight: *sigh* there is no type to search
[12:12] <chantecode> dli: Do you want to see my logs?
[12:12] <siennalizard> bunta: when you make those changes, you're using System>Preferences>Keyboard, right?
[12:12] <skavenge> livingdaylight: its right in fron of you between the search list and the description
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> skavenge: better you than me handling that one
[12:12] <dli> chantecode, yes
[12:12] <livingdaylight> well there is no commercial to click on as you suggested, so forgive my confusion
[12:12] <chantecode> dli: Thank you :-)  Here is a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/98918
[12:13] <skavenge> livingdaylight: then somethings broke because its there for everyone else in dapper
[12:13] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: if you're comfortable with adding a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can install it that way. Alternatively, go to the opera website and download the .deb
[12:13] <skavenge> siennalizard: that may be the only way its going to get done
[12:13] <diskotec|w> I'm trying to install Zope3 and I'm getting...  Zope3: no instances found.  The folks in #zope told me to ask here because they think I'd need to enable extra repositories.  Which repositories would I use..any suggestions?
[12:13] <bunta> siennalizard, correct
[12:13] <skavenge> add/remove is too complicated i guess
[12:14] <siennalizard> skavenge: that's not the problem. it could be that livingdaylight hasn't updated in a while.
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> skavenge: Run him through it with synaptic?
[12:14] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: i have updated and upgraded thanks for checking
[12:14] <skavenge> siennalizard: that wouldnt have anything to do with the unsupported and commercial check boxes not being there enitely
[12:14] <livingdaylight> skavenge: i'm sorry but it is not there
[12:14] <johnnyb_> I'm trying to run Ubuntu on an old-world mac, but it has stopped the boot process where it says "Begin: Waiting for root file system".  Any ideas?
[12:14] <dli> chantecode, comment out the f86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom part
[12:15] <jiba> nautilus-cd-burner fails to blank my DVD-RW, although K3B does it. XCDroast fails too, and complains about cdrecord-ProDVD missing, but i didn't found a package for it. Is that a known problem ?
[12:15] <dli> chantecode, try again
[12:15] <siennalizard> right, livingdaylight, put deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[12:15] <skavenge> livingdaylight: like i said you have an underlying problem then, i suggest downloading the .deb from opera.com
[12:15] <ttyfscker> who was it that asked me why use nero when i had k3b?
[12:15] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: in your sources.list
[12:15] <chantecode> dli: ok, thank you
[12:15] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: i'm very happy adding a line to my sources list i did but i got the result which i have posted earlier
[12:15] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: then apt-get update && apt-get install opera
[12:15] <Nutubuntu> jrib - All seems to work just fine now. I really don't know how to thank you enough -- have a 200+ page book I'm working on and needed LaTeX to be able to continue revising and re-type-setting it. Thanks ... just isn't enough :)
[12:15] <skavenge> Jack_Sparrow: this one's beyond me
[12:15] <ttyfscker> i have an answer to that question now..  the interface is minimal, it uses no system resources, and it doesnt complain about plugins all the time..
[12:15] <jpiccolo> would anyone be willing to try to help me with getting my sound to work
[12:15] <dli> chantecode, I noticed that your resolution is 800x600, is that true? or you have to dpkg-reconfigure again
[12:15] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: previous to that i downloaded the deb file from opea but i came across a dependecny issue
[12:16] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: so...what now. its not in my add/remove programs either
[12:16] <pike_> ttyfscker: and dvd menus
[12:16] <livingdaylight> this aint fun
[12:16] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: i did that
[12:16] <ttyfscker> pike_:: its better than k3b to me.. i always liked nero on windows.. im glad we have it for linux now..
[12:16] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: what was the missing dep?
[12:16] <chantecode> dli: I tried this resolution to be sure the crash doesn't come from it
[12:16] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[12:17] <ttyfscker> pike_:: it didnt take me very long to decide to pay the 19.99 for the linux version :)
[12:17] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: oh, that was some mtq3-mt thing
[12:17] <skavenge> 'pay'? 'linux'? bah
[12:17] <bunta> siennalizard, any ideas on what I could do?
[12:17] <ttyfscker> skavenge:: ahh whatever.. some things i will pay for
[12:17] <Masticore> how do I set the root password ?
[12:17] <SanketMedhi> ttyfscker: K3B and gnomebaker are good enough, we don't need a nero for linux
[12:17] <ttyfscker> Masticore:: sudo passwd
[12:17] <SanketMedhi> Masticore: read System Docs in System >> Help
[12:17] <Malachi> What's a good browser besides Firefox? Firefox is my favorite, but I need another browser to store the cookies of my "alias" accounts....
[12:18] <skavenge> ttyfscker: nero is good, havent used the linux ver
[12:18] <yggdrasil> neros cool cuz it will conver stuff for ya
[12:18] <dsas> Malachi: epiphany
[12:18] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: what platform are you on?
[12:18] <Malachi> Thanks. Included in the repos?
[12:18] <dsas> Malachi: or rather epiphany-browser
[12:18] <skavenge> my dvd burner has dma issues so its going to be a sluganyway
[12:18] <SanketMedhi> yggdrasil: I don't think it does that on linux
[12:18] <OoberMick> Malachi: sudo -s will give you a root shell
[12:18] <dsas> Malachi: yes
[12:18] <SanketMedhi> or does it?
[12:18] <yggdrasil> nope
[12:18] <Malachi> OoberMick: Buh?
[12:18] <yggdrasil> doubt it
[12:18] <jpiccolo> can anyone help me get nvmixer working?
[12:18] <OoberMick> Malachi: opps bad complete
[12:18] <yggdrasil> but the win versions is nice for not having to mess around with all that conversionstuff, total nightmare.
[12:18] <ttyfscker> gnomebaker  isnt worth a sh*t
[12:19] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: Dapper?
[12:19] <yggdrasil> k3b has been the only thing ive seen solid.
[12:19] <OoberMick> Masticore: sudo -s will give you a root shell
[12:19] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: 386?
[12:19] <ttyfscker> k3b is decent. but i dont like it because its designed for kde and it uses qt..
[12:19] <pike_> Malachi: if you decide to remove the root pass later and use  sudo 'passwd -l root' but sudo passwd root will enable the accoutn
[12:19] <vakosel> i want to install the headers kernel files . which package to choose?
[12:20] <ttyfscker> vakosel:: linux-headers-2.6.x-x-arch
[12:20] <siennalizard> bunta: I'm sorry, I'm out of my depth on your keyboard issue. I can only think that gnome is not saving your session. try System>preferences>sessions, and telling it to save your session automatically. Its' the only thing I can recommend.
[12:20] <vakosel> i have intel pentium
[12:20] <dli> vakosel, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:20] <Masticore> ok
[12:20] <bunta> siennalizard, thanks.. I think its probably that.. I've got a XGI (I think) + Compiz session running on :P No worries tho.. its only a minor quibble ;)
[12:20] <ttyfscker> replace the x's and arch with the appropriate numbers.. ex. 2.6.15-26-686
[12:20] <livingdaylight> skavenge: are you saying gparted should have come with Dapper by default?
[12:21] <skavenge> can anyone help with NAT? I've got ICS turned on through firestarter, machines can ping each other but no outward inet from the secondary box?
[12:21] <Darkprince> i'm relatively new to linux... how do i update my video card driver?
[12:21] <bunta> siennalizard, the second problem.. is installing kubuntu-desktop.. I'm getting some dependency errors which I'm unable to install :o
[12:21] <skavenge> livingdaylight: yes the dapper cd has gparted on it, or should, its in the manifest
[12:21] <livingdaylight> how can i tell whether i got teh full stable installation of dapper
[12:21] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: does your sources.list look something like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[12:21] <bunta> namely libpoppler1 + libpoppler1-qt related
[12:21] <pike_> Darkprince: ati or nvidia or intel?
[12:21] <Senesence> My ubuntu desktop position is out of place. I tried pressing the "Auto sync" button on my monitor but that only makes the desktop move to the right of the screen by a half. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:21] <Darkprince> pike_, ati
[12:21] <chantecode> dli: Thak you, I will try soon
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: Did youever run the self test on that cd to make sure it worked?
[12:22] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: if not, make it so, then run "sudo apt-get update" and try installing opera again.
[12:22] <pike_> Darkprince: see wiki.ubuntu.com and search for ati
[12:22] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: did you upgrade from breezy?
[12:22] <skavenge> man i had NAT working fine before but it kinda fell into place and now i cant figure out whats wrong now that i reinstalled heh
[12:22] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: no, just reinstalled
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: Test that cd
[12:23] <bunta> siennalizard, I get this first: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins .. then when I try to apt-get that, I'd get:  Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed .. and finally (after another apt): libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:23] <rcmiv> best way to configure ubuntu to boot to command line?
[12:23] <vakosel> i tried to use the apt get install linux-headers didnt work .what is the command exactly?
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> apt-get ?
[12:23] <vakosel> yes
[12:23] <pike_> rcmiv: update-rc.d -f gdm remove i think
[12:23] <bunta> =/
[12:24] <dli> vakosel, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:24] <rcmiv> that's exactly what I thought, but it
[12:24] <vakosel> like this?
[12:24] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: mine looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18819
[12:24] <rcmiv>  is the "i think" part that bothers me
[12:24] <vakosel> uname?
[12:24] <livingdaylight> Jack_Sparrow: yea, geez, i didn't
[12:24] <pike_> rcmiv: that will work and is best i just wasnt sure of syntax im on windows right now
[12:25] <OoberMick> rcmiv: he's right
[12:25] <lopzided> is there a configuration file i can delete to make gnome settings go back to default?
[12:25] <vgoltser> icecast does not want to work
[12:25] <rcmiv> i suppose I'll just use sysv-rc-conf and deselct gdm at every run level?
[12:25] <dli> rcmiv, double check in /etc/rc3.d/
[12:25] <Senesence> How do I get my ubuntu desktop to line up with the screen size? Right now it's off by about an inch to the right.
[12:25] <vgoltser> run it as root and it wants to be run as user
[12:25] <Dharma> Hi
[12:25] <Crescendo> I have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?
[12:25] <vgoltser> run it as user and it can't write to /var
[12:25] <Darkprince> pike_,  when i search for ATI, i get every word with those 3 letters
[12:25] <siennalizard> bunta: hmmm. I would say to you that you should check your sources.list, then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. just make sure everything is up-to-date.
[12:25] <vgoltser> someone needs to change the default config
[12:25] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: icecast is a pain to config
[12:25] <pike_> !ati
[12:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:26] <Dharma> Anybody knows How I can start Hal?
[12:26] <bunta> siennalizard, lemme go disable some errm.. unofficial repos
[12:26] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: why don't you use the default shoutacast for linux?
[12:26] <vgoltser> sanket, then I want something that can stream to a shoutcast server ...
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: It just seems something serious is wrong or corrupt
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Dharma: hal starts automaticly
[12:26] <vakosel> thx a lot !
[12:26] <vakosel> worked
[12:26] <vgoltser> sanket?
[12:26] <dli> Dharma, it's started by default
[12:26] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: you haven't put the new commercial repo in as I suggested. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[12:26] <vgoltser> default?
[12:26] <Dharma> Yes but it doesn't...
[12:26] <pike_> Darkprince: nvidia is in general a much better idea for linux
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Dharma: its running atm im sure
[12:26] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: use Shoutcast for linux, its the same as the one you use on the Other system
[12:26] <siennalizard> bunta: it's going to be things like that which cause the problem...
[12:26] <dyn-afk> nvidia is like heaven when you're used to ati stuff
[12:26] <rcmiv> thanks guys...
[12:26] <vgoltser> I have a linux version of the shoutcast server, I just need a player to send it stuff
[12:26] <dli> Dharma, /etc/init.d/hald restart
[12:26] <Dharma> when I type ps its not there
[12:26] <interfear> i need to "cc" compiller, would i install the "cpp" package to get that?
[12:26] <bunta> siennalizard, ahh k.. retryin
[12:26] <vgoltser> xmms is closest to working, but it crashes
[12:26] <Darkprince> pike_, but i have ATI cards =\
[12:27] <vgoltser> ati > nvidia
[12:27] <pike_> Darkprince: ebay :)
[12:27] <gnomefreak> interfear: why not gcc?
[12:27] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: i used the wiki and followed the guide's instructions on how to install opera
[12:27] <Velorium> skavenge: alright, i'm still back to windows but i got alot of info off of trying the listed commands in terminal, what do you need
[12:27] <Darkprince> pike_, not gonna work for me
[12:27] <interfear> gnomefreak: oh, yeh drr.
[12:27] <vgoltser> ati drivers are way easier to install, no need to compile anything, just build modules
[12:27] <interfear> vgoltser: ati < nvidia @ linux
[12:27] <Ronz> hey...i installed wine from the source, but its not showing up in synaptic. how do i uninstall it?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> interfear: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:27] <interfear> gnomefreak: thanks man
[12:27] <Darkprince> =(
[12:27] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: I'm proposing another way... if that's alright with you...
[12:27] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:27] <interfear> cd
[12:27] <interfear> oops
[12:27] <skavenge> Velorium: what did ndiswrapper -l give you? driver and hardware present?
[12:27] <dyn-afk> but the overall quality and features of the ati drivers are a disaster compared to the nvidia ones
[12:27] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: tell me
[12:27] <Darkprince> i just want to get world of warcraft working in cedega =(
[12:27] <Dharma> dli there is no such file in my system
[12:28] <Ronz> Darkprince, you can get wow workign under wine. =)
[12:28] <siennalizard> Ronz: it won't show up in Synaptic if you did "make install"
[12:28] <bunta> siennalizard, apparently.. I have 0.5.1-0ubuntu7 of libpoppler1.. but I need 0.5.3-0ubuntu1
[12:28] <vgoltser> dyn, the config utility blows, but the drivers are pretty decent ...
[12:28] <interfear> dont play WoW!!!
[12:28] <vgoltser> and way easier to install
[12:28] <Dharma> hal is installed but I can;t see it
[12:28] <interfear> its stupid!
[12:28] <dyn-afk> nah
[12:28] <dyn-afk> ati drivers tend to crash linux boxes quite a lot
[12:28] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: ok, tell me but i have to take a break now
[12:28] <Dharma> can' t I check it via GUI?
[12:28] <pike_> Darkprince: im just not optimistic about chances for 3d gaming on new ati cards
[12:28] <interfear> you level up for what!? what sthe point ?!? so you can get cooler weapons for what!? pvp!?
[12:28] <siennalizard> Ronz: you might be able to go to the original source dir and type "make uninstall"
[12:28] <Darkprince> Ronz, i got it kind of working in cedega... as in i can select my character and everything just fine but when i click "enter world" the game hangs
[12:28] <interfear> stupid
[12:28] <vgoltser> dyn, can nvidia drivers be installed on a backdated debian? (2.4 kernel)
[12:29] <tuxtux> ciao at all
[12:29] <vgoltser> it cannot ... it has been tried.
[12:29] <Darkprince> Ronz, thought it was a cedega problem at first, but it's actually freezing my whole computer so my guess is i need to update my ATI drivers... just don't know how
[12:29] <siennalizard> livingdaylight: put that line in your sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install opera" should work like a charm. It's all new stuff that isn't in the howto's yet.
[12:29] <Velorium> skavenge: yes it said they're present
[12:29] <dyn-afk> dunno vgoltser
[12:29] <Ronz> Darkprince, can you run glxgears?
[12:29] <Darkprince> Ronz, what's that?
[12:30] <vgoltser> darkprince, the forum has the answer
[12:30] <SanketMedhi> is Opera good?
[12:30] <Ronz> Darkprince, it tests your video card
[12:30] <dyn-afk> I don't use kernel 2.4 anymore
[12:30] <skavenge> Velorium: okay so we know the driver and ndiswrapper are present .. where are you hitting a roadblock?
[12:30] <Darkprince> vgoltser, what forum?
[12:30] <vgoltser> dyn, can you get nvidia to do dual monitor?
[12:30] <vgoltser> the ubuntu forum
[12:30] <SanketMedhi> does Opera come for amd64?
[12:30] <Darkprince> Ronz, in cedega?
[12:30] <jpiccolo> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". <-what does that mean?
[12:30] <prophet> i reformatted my windows drive to ubuntu :)
[12:30] <dyn-afk> and the only nvidia box I have runs ubuntu 6.06 (and so does this laptop with an ati graphics card)
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkprince: I personally refuse to spend my time helping people who drag programs in from another OS and want to complain about how they dont work or they are too slow...
[12:30] <Ronz> no Darkprince , from command line
[12:30] <polpak> prophet: congratulations
[12:30] <vgoltser> jpiccolo, it means you don't have hardware accelaration ...
[12:30] <vgoltser> I think
[12:30] <dyn-afk> no idea about dual monitor, don't use it :)
[12:30] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the cmd that tells me infromations about direct rendering?
[12:30] <Kyral> Jack_Sparrow: Hear Hear!
[12:30] <SanketMedhi> does Cedega has a free version yet? without any ads?
[12:30] <Ronz> Darkprince, hop over to #winehq and i will help you there
[12:31] <Darkprince> Ronz, i don't know, i'm pretty new to linux
[12:31] <Kyral> Cedega was never Free
[12:31] <vgoltser> meta, glxinfo | grep direct
[12:31] <gnomefreak> SanketMedhi: no
[12:31] <Darkprince> Ronz, ok
[12:31] <SanketMedhi> I know
[12:31] <skavenge> Jack_Sparrow: amen i wish we could shuffle all this to #winehq or something ..
[12:31] <Kyral> neither as in Freedom
[12:31] <Velorium> skavenge: well i'm not actually sure, here's some commands i ran
[12:31] <SanketMedhi> ok
[12:31] <Kyral> or as in Beer
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> vgoltser: thank you
[12:31] <vgoltser> I want beer
[12:31] <SanketMedhi> lol
[12:31] <vgoltser> linux != beer
[12:31] <skavenge> cedega gas a CVS version thats free but its ancient
[12:31] <vgoltser> so linux can never be free as in beer, it can only be free as in linux
[12:31] <skavenge> gas/has
[12:31] <vgoltser> free beer is way better than free linux anyway
[12:31] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: do games work on it ? :)
[12:32] <Klowner> free linux doesn't give you a gut though
[12:32] <schotty> greets
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> WIne wants to tell people they can run these games, let them answer the questions and listen to the complaints.  Maybe they will work to improve their product/code...
[12:32] <siennalizard> SanketMedhi: it is good, yes. try it and see! you might have to use dpkg --force architecture -i
[12:32] <skavenge> SanketMedhi: maybe lemmings, it has barely any support
[12:32] <polpak> SanketMedhi: many games actually work find in wine
[12:32] <vgoltser> klowner ... it doesn't make you happy either
[12:32] <vgoltser> ngame work in wine better than the native linux version
[12:32] <vgoltser> damn adobe ...
[12:32] <Klowner> vgoltser: using windows makes me sad, so by comparison, yes it does
[12:32] <Velorium> here it is, also there's a screen shot attatched of the networking screen, but i don't have a dial up modem so i'm not sure what the deal with that is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18820
[12:32] <vgoltser> they are shit ... literally
[12:32] <prophet> what was that command to auto amount partitions?
[12:32] <SanketMedhi> polpak: I use Wine for a few, but many people keep on asking for Age of Empires/Kings/Mythology which I guess don't work with Wine
[12:33] <vgoltser> check the loki installers
[12:33] <Petri_L> I'm having a sound problem. I can't get sound from two programs at the same time. Meaning I can't listen to music and for example talk to someone over skype at the same time. I can't acces alsamixer it says "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" I have a Compaq nx6110 laptop sound device:0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[12:33] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: which games are you talking about?
[12:33] <vgoltser> ngame by metanet
[12:33] <vgoltser> a flash game
[12:34] <siennalizard> Petri_L: which version of skype? the new one or the old one which caused the problems you're describing?
[12:34] <SanketMedhi> vgoltser: try America's Army, it runs amazingly fast
[12:34] <vgoltser> puzzle/action platformer
[12:34] <SanketMedhi> ok
[12:34] <vgoltser> meh
[12:34] <vgoltser> I will install ut2k4 eventually
[12:34] <vgoltser> pentium d system at work ;)
[12:34] <vgoltser> with an X300
[12:34] <aceshigh> nghnghng
[12:34] <polpak> SanketMedhi: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1007&iTestingId=682
[12:34] <vgoltser> ubuntu doesn't like my powerhouse at home though
[12:34] <polpak> vgoltser: ut2k4 works great native
[12:34] <Klowner> SanketMedhi: Age of Whatever are all Microsoft games, so they probably use ungodly dark windows hackery, thus angering Wine
[12:35] <vgoltser> partitioner freezes at 50%
[12:35] <Asterisk_Newbie> Hi all, from Portugal
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> vgoltser: patience
[12:35] <SanketMedhi> Klowner: I know :P
[12:35] <skavenge> Velorium: okay well none of the wlan0 commands are going to work because its calling the card eth2 instead, but thats fine as long as it sees it ask a wireless device (which it is), have you tried going into network manager, enabling the eth2 and setting in to dhcp?
[12:35] <vgoltser> polpak, I know, I had 5fps of ut2k4 goodness on my laptop ^^
[12:35] <vgoltser> xpress200m there
[12:35] <vgoltser> with a sempron 3000+
[12:35] <Petri_L> siennalizard: version 1.2.0.18_API although I've had this problem from the get go I think
[12:36] <cotroler> Hello ppl
[12:36] <polpak> Jack_Sparrow: I actually had the partitioner lock up on me every time when I ran the dapper desktop install. I had to use the alternate install cd
[12:36] <Velorium> skavenge: yes i did, i set the SSID to ACTIONTEC, though i noticed it's searching channel 1 where as my router is on channel 11.
[12:36] <siennalizard> Petri_L: there's a new version in the repos which will solve that problem, I think.
[12:36] <cotroler> I have a small problemi just installed apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:37] <johnny_> can someone help me with the installation process?
[12:37] <cotroler> now what must i do to install nvidia drivers?
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[12:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:37] <polpak> !nvidia
[12:37] <gnomefreak> cotroler: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:37] <siennalizard> Petri_L: there are workarounds, but it's because the old version you've got locks up the sound device with the old OSS system, and doesn't use ALSA.
[12:37] <johnny_> it gets to 87% on remaining packages and then gives me "check /var/log/syslog "
[12:37] <Crescendo> I have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?
[12:37] <Velorium> skavenge: and i'm unaware of how to change that, also usually when my USB is searching, the LED blinks a few times about every 30 seconds, i don't see that doing that at all while i was doing that
[12:37] <gnomefreak> cotroler: please dont pm me without asking first
[12:37] <johnny_> should i try using ext2 instead of ext3?
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> johnny_:  Did you do the self test on the cd?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> cotroler: please read the !nvidia info
[12:38] <polpak> johnny_: I had trouble with the installation on my work computer.. the CD kept spinning up too fast and giving errors on files
[12:38] <johnny_> self test?
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> johnny_: That should not matter
[12:38] <prophet> what was that command to auto amount partitions?
[12:38] <cotroler> gnomefreak: where do i find the nvidia info?
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[12:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:38] <cotroler> gnomefreak: im new to linux :(
[12:38] <johnny_> i just installed it last week but i didnt give enough swap area so now im reinstalling
[12:39] <skavenge> Velorium: nor am i but thats critical .. we need to find how to change the channel, i never had to do that but i think its a big point of getting it running .. maybe ask channel or try googling for changing it? best answer i can give sorry
[12:39] <siennalizard> Petri_L: any luck?
[12:39] <skip> I like easy ubunutu to install nvidia or ati drivers http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:39] <polpak> !nvidia > cotroler
[12:39] <johnny_> but this time everytime it gets to 87% of the remainin pckages it quits
[12:39] <johnny_> does anyone know what to do?
[12:39] <polpak> cotroler: read the message ubotu sent you
[12:39] <codecaine> how can I stop shit backspace from killing my xserver?
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> skip:  eeewwwww
[12:39] <polpak> codecaine: stop using XGL?
[12:39] <codecaine> I don't have xgl
[12:39] <codecaine> loaded
[12:39] <cotroler> polpak tnx
[12:39] <codecaine> I have it but not activated
[12:39] <Petri_L> Siennalizard: according to synaptic I have the same version of skype  as it is listed there
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !easybuntu
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about easybuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:39] <carajean> isnt there a forum or some help file that goes with ubuntu to help newb install dvd players and stuff
[12:39] <gnomefreak> codecaine: please watch your language this is a family channel
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[12:39] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:40] <Velorium> skavenge: alright, but what i dont get at all, is that it said no packets were even sent, plus like i said, it didnt blink as if it was searching like it will on windows when it's searching any signal at all
[12:40] <ubuntufan> hi, i recently swapped my ati card for a nvidia fx 5200. I reinstalled dapper and installed the nvidia drivers from repositories. Im getting the lockup bug where only your mouse moves. Is there a way to easily fix this? Or should i get the driver from the site?
[12:40] <Agrajag> gnomefreak: that was a typo, he missed the f in shift.
[12:40] <polpak> codecaine: you mean you don't have compiz running? But I'm pretty sure you're still using XGL for the X server
[12:40] <codecaine> my language?
[12:40] <codecaine> lol
[12:40] <offroadgeek> would someone mind helping me with a question or two about kernel modules?
[12:40] <codecaine> hmm is there a config file for xgl to comment it out?
[12:40] <polpak> codecaine: XGL will exit on shift-backspace. Xorg will exit on ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntufan:  there are two different drivers 8500 and older
[12:41] <polpak> codecaine: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:41] <gregg__> codecaine: normal Xorg quits on ctrl+alt+backspace, that might be your problem if xgl is really deactived
[12:41] <gregg__> deactivated
[12:41] <ubuntufan> Jack_Sparrow: i installed Version: 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3
[12:42] <Agrajag> that can be turned off in xorg.conf
[12:42] <gregg__> yes, with option "dontzap"
[12:42] <highphilosopher> hey is anyone else here using a mac with ubuntu
[12:42] <ubuntufan> Jack_Sparrow: i used the package nvidia-glx
[12:42] <jvai_> the libdvdcss2  stuff- http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html
[12:42] <jvai_> then save it to your home dir
[12:42] <polpak> gregg__: it's quitting on shift backspace
[12:42] <Velorium> skavenge: i found how to change the channel, do you think that's the only problem or is there something else too, because i personally think it's more than just the channel
[12:42] <codecaine> oh xgl auto runs when I load my desktop
[12:43] <Masticore> How come I dont have sound when I plug in my headset ? I have been in alsamixer and turned everything on 100%
[12:43] <Velorium> skavenge: but i have absolutely no idea what it could be
[12:43] <ompaul> codecaine, there is a channel for xgl - this is not the place to discuss it thanks
[12:43] <hlabs> Hey. Is there any software that is similar to limewire. For ubuntu
[12:43] <jvai_> u need essential packeages for the proccessor you're running
[12:43] <ompaul> !limewire
[12:43] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[12:43] <siennalizard> Petri_L: hmmmm. it may not be in the repositories yet. download it off the skype.com website.
[12:43] <ompaul> !frostwire > hlabs
[12:44] <Petri_L> siennalizard: ok
[12:44] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello... is there a folding@home channel on freenode?
[12:44] <ompaul> hlabs, read the message from the bot
[12:44] <SanketMedhi> Sleeping_Sloth: what?
[12:44] <siennalizard> Sleeping_Sloth: I know what you mean. And I have no idea.
[12:44] <abo>  I installed mplayer plugin to firefox, now I can hear the video streams but not view them, anyone can help?
[12:45] <juztin> question : in gnome, when i plug in a usb storage device, it pops up automatically on my desktop and opens a window to the drive....is there a way to enable something like this in KDE?
[12:45] <siennalizard> Sleeping_Sloth: irc.freenode.net #eocf
[12:45] <Velorium> skavenge: any thoughts?
[12:45] <hlabs> i tried installing frostwire onto my machine but the icon comes in the menu but when i try to load the app. it does not work
[12:45] <siennalizard> Sleeping_Sloth: google is your friend!
[12:45] <Sleeping_Sloth> siennalizard: I was after aubuntu based one really.... thanks, I'll give it a go
[12:46] <siennalizard> Sleeping_Sloth: I thought you just wanted a folding@home chatroom. sorry!
[12:46] <Masticore> How come I dont have sound when I plug in my headset ? I have been in alsamixer and turned everything on 100%
[12:46] <thiago_> hi... how can i install all include files, sources, and libs, for develop, like in slackware...???
[12:46] <Sleeping_Sloth> siennalizard - well, maybe they'll be able to help in there - a better place to start than here though. thankyou
[12:46] <polpak> thiago_:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:46] <ompaul> Sleeping_Sloth, this seems to be what you want http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102313
[12:46] <polpak> thiago_: that should be a good start anyway
[12:46] <bobbyd> hi
[12:47] <bobbyd> what's the correct way to shut down an Ubuntu sustem from the command line?
[12:47] <thiago_> polpak, humm thanks, have other command?
[12:47] <thiago_> polpak, for a full ambient for develop
[12:47] <siennalizard> Sleeping_Sloth: I think you need http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102313
[12:47] <ompaul> bobbyd, sudo shutdown -h now << that is for straight away >> shutdown -r now <<< for reboot
[12:48] <siennalizard> bobbyd: sudo shutdown -h now
[12:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> ompaul: thanks - I really need to talk to someone who knows - I have it all set up and running, just have a few q's about the finer points
[12:48] <bobbyd> omarkj, ok thanks siennalizard you too :)
[12:48] <SanketMedhi> bobbyd: poweroff
[12:48] <cheatersrealm> where is ubuntu devel channel?
[12:48] <Petri_L> siennalizard: installed but nothing changed should I reboot? or did I pick the wrong package I picked the debian package at http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[12:48] <hlabs> ok officially lime wire is not working on my machine
[12:48] <hlabs> is there any other software that i can use
[12:48] <micahcowan> cheatersrealm: #ubuntu-devel?
[12:48] <PingunZ> frostwire
[12:48] <SanketMedhi> hlabs: how did you install it?
[12:48] <ddonky> hlabs - gnutella-gtk
[12:48] <cheatersrealm> thanks micahcowan
[12:48] <aceshigh> could anyone give me a quicky why i cant find the ".wine directory" after typing wine in the terminal?
[12:49] <hlabs> well i installed Java of the repo
[12:49] <siennalizard> Petri_L: that's fine. no need to reboot: this isn't windows! try running it.
[12:49] <PingunZ> hlabs, just install frostwire trough automatix
[12:49] <hlabs> and followed the instructions for lime wire that came with its readme files
[12:49] <ddonky> hlabs - errr, gtk-gnutella
[12:49] <siennalizard> Petri_L: then check what version it reports.
 type : winecfg and it will appear
[12:50] <aceshigh> lol, thanks :D
[12:50] <jvai_> it was fun every1
[12:50] <siennalizard> Petri_L: you did get the 1.3 beta, right?
[12:50] <micahcowan> thiago_, I'm not sure there's one command to do what you want.
[12:50] <siennalizard> Petri_L: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html
[12:50] <Petri_L> siennalizard: 1.2.0.18 API the same... noo I didn't should I? =D
[12:50] <micahcowan> Most library packages, etc, have a -dev counterpart that installs header files, etc., related to that specific library...
[12:50] <SanketMedhi> hlabs: what is the prob now? Try running limewire from command line and tell us about the output
[12:50] <Zambezi> My java takes alot of memory. Can I install another version? I think I installed it with easyubuntu.
[12:50] <siennalizard> Petri_L: you def need the new one!!!
[12:50] <phaedrus44> nerolinux is soooo great......i got an ubuntu server install with fluxbox and no KDE libs  thanks to nerolinux!
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> :|
[12:51] <waky> the new skype have alsa support
[12:51] <waky> the beta
[12:51] <waky> ;D
[12:51] <thiago_> micahcowan, ok :)
[12:51] <void^> i'd prefer k3b with qt libs anytime over nerolinux
 java alway take a lot of memory ;P
[12:51] <phaedrus44> my p3 runs like a top
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> phaedrus44: what does nero have to do with it?
[12:51] <Petri_L> siennalizard: ah like that
[12:51] <PingunZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1293943&postcount=1 ==> an automatic kernel recompiler
[12:52] <siennalizard> Petri_L: you can test: call me: siennalizard
[12:52] <phaedrus44> well...its a robust burning program...ive been burning cds for like 2 days...i used to like k3b...but it came with the bloated kde libs..i like fluxbox
[12:52] <prophet> hey fellas what was that auto mount command for start up
[12:52] <siennalizard> prophet: the way to do it is to put a line in your /etc/fstab
[12:52] <thiago_> have a program like amarok, but for gnome (in gtk)?
[12:52] <SuperMiguel> hello
[12:52] <prophet> i did that sienna
[12:53] <hlabs> labs@edubuntu:~/music/sto/lime/LimeWire$ sh ./runLime.sh
[12:53] <hlabs> Starting LimeWire...
[12:53] <hlabs> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[12:53] <hlabs> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[12:53] <hlabs> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[12:53] <hlabs> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[12:53] <hlabs> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[12:53] <chokes> Amarok is the best
[12:53] <SanketMedhi> phaedrus44: why don't you use the command line instead? You can then use the server edition without a GUI! :)
[12:53] <hlabs> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[12:53] <hlabs> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[12:53] <SuperMiguel> does any one knows how make ubuntu see a printer thats is being shared in a windows machine?
[12:53] <hlabs> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[12:53] <hlabs> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[12:53] <hlabs> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[12:53] <hlabs> hlabs@edubuntu:~/music/sto/lime/LimeWire$
[12:53] <pike_> prophet: to mount things in fstab: 'sudo mount -a'
[12:53] <siennalizard> SuperMiguel: I wrote a tutorial on it... lol I'll find it for you.
[12:53] <Zambezi> chokes, Java is bloatware. :-(
[12:53] <prophet> i just added this line /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows vntfs umask=0000,dmask=0000,uid=0002,gid=users,users  0 0
[12:53] <SanketMedhi> hlabs: follow the instructions in the output!
[12:53] <chokes> ?
[12:53] <SanketMedhi> !paste > hlabs
[12:53] <phaedrus44> hehe SanketMedhi..yeah im only a novice user with a gui addiction..but i like to use minimal...so im stuck with gui and not willing to go command line///    : (
[12:54] <Zambezi> hlabs, Next time, use pastebin please.
[12:54] <phaedrus44> like most of the computer user world
[12:54] <Petri_L> siennalizard: problem with sound device ( I am playing music at the same time)
[12:54] <siennalizard> SuperMiguel: found it, but it was for printing to a cups printer. sorry.
[12:54] <hlabs> now how would i use the paste bin
[12:54] <Elak> gui addiction kills :E
[12:54] <SuperMiguel> thats fine
[12:54] <siennalizard> SuperMiguel: how far have you got?
[12:54] <phaedrus44> Elak   is reality though
[12:54] <void^> !frostwire > hlabs
[12:54] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: you should try frostwire
[12:54] <hlabs> frostwire is not working on my pc
[12:54] <SuperMiguel> i can see the shared files but not the printer
[12:54] <SanketMedhi> frostwire is java-less ?
[12:54] <phaedrus44> i was just stoked about the nerolinux...not the privce though..
[12:54] <siennalizard> Petri_L: we can find out what's using /dev/dsp. pop open a terminal, and type lsof /dev/dsp
[12:55] <siennalizard> Petri_L: do you get any output?
[12:55] <siennalizard> Petri_L: also try fuser /dev/dsp
[12:55] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: you have to get java in /usr/java or /opt/java/
[12:55] <SanketMedhi> !frostwire
[12:55] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:55] <hlabs> how can do that
[12:55] <ttyfscker> SanketMedhi:: not its not java-less
[12:55] <pike_> hlabs: frostwire or limewire or amule which wont require java but is a little more complicated and slower
[12:55] <ttyfscker> its like limewirepro but free..
[12:56] <SanketMedhi> ok
[12:56] <hlabs> this is the paste bin post on my limewire error
[12:56] <ttyfscker> pike_::  what are you talking about
[12:56] <hlabs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18821
[12:56] <Petri_L> siennalizard: petri@ubuntu:~$ lsof /dev/dsp
[12:56] <Petri_L> COMMAND   PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[12:56] <Petri_L> xmms    20626 petri    9w   CHR   14,3      8598 /dev/dsp
[12:56] <Petri_L> petri@ubuntu:~$ fuser /dev/dsp
[12:56] <Petri_L> /dev/dsp:            20626
[12:56] <Petri_L> petri@ubuntu:~$
[12:56] <SuperMiguel> does any one knows how nake ubunto see a windows base printer thats is being shared?
[12:56] <pike_> ttyfscker: oh did i say that outloud?
[12:56] <SanketMedhi> !paste > Petri_L
[12:57] <siennalizard> Petri_L: now do: ps aux | grep 20626
[12:57] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: i can help you fix that
[12:57] <siennalizard> Petri_L:  then we'll find out what the offending process is.
[12:57] <ttyfscker> its rather simple
[12:57] <hlabs> please do i am super lost.
[12:57] <ttyfscker> go to your terminal.. and cd /usr
[12:57] <siennalizard> Petri_L: it's time to try a new media player.
[12:58] <siennalizard> Petri_L: bee-media-player is very nice, and quite like xmms.
[12:58] <SuperMiguel> hey
[12:58] <PingunZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1293943&postcount=1 => can anyone with some dev skills leave a post plz, or pm me .. I'm desperatly looking for devs :s
 please help me
[12:58] <Ronz> !nvidia
[12:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:58] <siennalizard> Petri_L: sorry beep-media-player
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> hlabs: go to java.com and download the package for your architecture, follow the instructions exactly, you should get it working fine if you do
[12:58] <PingunZ> !kernel
[12:58] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> !java
[12:58] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:58] <micahcowan> siennalizard: what's wrong with xmms?
[12:58] <prophet> how do you turn off the login scren i remember i did it but i forgot how
[12:58] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: im going to  at the terminal type locate java-1.5
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> !java > hlabs
[12:59] <Petri_L> (how does the paste function work?)
[12:59] <siennalizard> micahcowan: it uses OSS and is out of date, isn't it?
[12:59] <Agrajag> xmms can use alsa
[12:59] <micahcowan> siennalizard: it can use esd or alsa,just need to configure. out of date how?
[12:59] <ttyfscker> xmms uses alsa, esd, or oss
[12:59] <ttyfscker> !beep
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about beep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <siennalizard> ttyfscker: Agrajag micahcowan: could you explain how to Petri_L ? cheers!
[12:59] <ttyfscker> well there is beep media player.. its the more updated xmms based on gtk2
[12:59] <hlabs> i did install Java run time 5 from the repo
[01:00] <hlabs> but still the thing isnt working
[01:00] <siennalizard> ttyfscker: that's what I advised Petri_L
[01:00] <geokok> can I ask something about amsn????
[01:00] <SanketMedhi> BMP has been crashing sometimes for me
[01:00] <ttyfscker> i use banshee or xfmedia
[01:00] <siennalizard> Petri_L: I've found your problem
[01:00] <SanketMedhi> but BMP is still the way to go :)
[01:00] <SanketMedhi> geokok: nobody's stopping you :)
[01:00] <Petri_L> siennalizard: mhm?
[01:00] <geokok> hi all....I got amsn 0.96 on my ubuntu 6 laptop and i have the following problem. THe first time I log in I can view and send webcam perfectly. However, if I quit amsn and then restart it I cant do neither of them anymore. What could it be? I DONT have a router and i use Firestarter..(but if it was the firewall it woudnt allow the first time to view, right??)
[01:01] <geokok> In fact I had to re-install several times for the cam to work again...until I quited so it stopped working again
[01:01] <siennalizard> Petri_L: if you want to use xmms, open it, right-click, options>preferences.
[01:01] <siennalizard> Change output plugin to ALSA
[01:01] <Sleeping_Sloth> does anyone know anything about NUMA?
[01:01] <ttyfscker> geokok:: sounds like its either a bug in your webcam driver, or amsn
[01:01] <scabootssca> how do i add my windows partition to grub? and i already tried the wiki entry
[01:01] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how make ubuntu see a windows shared printer
[01:01] <micahcowan> Petri_L: you just go to the paste site, paste.ubuntu-nl.org, enter your name, and paste your text into the text, and hit "Send". Then use that URL to post to the channel.
[01:01] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: do you want java to work or not?
[01:01] <Petri_L> siennalizard: yes ?
[01:02] <siennalizard> Petri_L: have you done that? (look up)
[01:02] <geokok> webcam works in ekiga fine though
[01:02] <hlabs> yeah i do want it to work
[01:02] <Petri_L> Micahcowan: ok nice  thanks =)
[01:02] <prophet> how do you turn off the login scren i remember i did it but i forgot how
[01:02] <siennalizard> Petri_L: change output plugin to also
[01:02] <siennalizard> Petri_L: sorry, alsa
[01:02] <ttyfscker> geokok:: its probably amsn then.. webcam support in amsn is rather new, and buggy
[01:02] <ttyfscker> geokok:: have you tried mercury messenger?
[01:02] <SanketMedhi> isn't there an Ekiga plugin in Gaim?
[01:02] <geokok> .......all my hopes for webcam chat are gone....mercury installs but doesnt run
[01:02] <hlabs> i typed locate java-1.5 as you said nothing happened
[01:03] <hlabs> in the terminal
[01:03] <ttyfscker> SanketMedhi:: if there is i dont know of it
[01:03] <geokok> i get an erron message that something is not public
[01:03] <SanketMedhi> I guess there isn't then
[01:03] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: have you set up java yet?
[01:03] <Jmaxxx> hi, i don't have an rgb.txt
[01:03] <siennalizard> Petri_L: then you might need to close xmms and open it again.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> geokok: public key?
[01:03] <Jmaxxx> what package providers rgb.txt?
[01:03] <SanketMedhi> but if Kopete can have it, Gaim should too
[01:03] <hlabs> ok guide me through this please
[01:03] <IceTox> Hello! I have a problem with mounting my ntfs disk. (2 partitions). They're located on "Computer" but I cannot access them. When I try to enter them I get this message: "Unable to mount the selected volume." When I click on details, I get "error: device /dev/sda5 is not removable
[01:03] <geokok> wait i ll install and tell u what it says
[01:03] <IceTox> error: could not execute pmount"
[01:03] <micahcowan> siennalizard, Petri_L: you shouldn't have to close xmms, it should "just work" after you save prefs
[01:03] <OoberMick> hlabs: did you set the correct java. sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[01:03] <ttyfscker> hlabs::  first use easyubuntu to install all of your sun/flash and you will probably want to install codecs
[01:04] <ttyfscker> !easyubuntu
[01:04] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:04] <siennalizard> micahcowan: thanks.
[01:04] <Jmaxxx> ;o
[01:04] <nickuu> Just wondering
[01:04] <hlabs> ok im going to install this easyubuntu thing
[01:04] <Jmaxxx> no one knows what package provides rgb.txt? i would imagine it would be a requirement for xserver-xorg
[01:04] <ttyfscker> hlabs::  its a lot easier than having to hold your hand through each process
[01:05] <nickuu> Is it possible to intstall ubuntu when windows is already installed, does it delete windows?
[01:05] <ttyfscker> nickuu:: yes its possible and no it doesnt
[01:05] <nickuu> ok thanks
[01:05] <Petri_L> siennalizard: nope now it says check so that no other program is blocking the soundcard (translated from swedish)
[01:05] <nickuu> just use the install cd?
[01:05] <Sleeping_Sloth> !sysstat
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about sysstat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <CvbcAdmin> hello chanel
[01:06] <CvbcAdmin> welcome a new ubuntu user
[01:06] <OoberMick> !dualboot > nickuu
[01:06] <ttyfscker> nickuu:: be sure that you use the right partitions during install.. yes use the ubuntu live cd
[01:06] <micahcowan> Petri_L: try changing the output driver from alsa to esd/enlightened-sound-daemon?
[01:06] <hlabs> well im sorry for asking so many questions. But im new to this ubuntu OS. And its not like XP at all so im kind of a noob at this point. Bear with me plz
[01:06] <nickuu> ty
[01:06] <ddonky> 'sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella'
[01:06] <micahcowan> CvbcAdmin: welcome :)
[01:06] <CvbcAdmin> SanketMedhi, Thank you very much
[01:06] <geokok> ok ..I install the debian package of mercury and type in the terminal "mercury"....this is what i get :  /usr/bin/mercury: line 1329: strings: command not found
[01:06] <geokok> Unable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.dMSN.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)
[01:06] <geokok> Unable to Launch Java Application: Unable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.dMSN.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)
[01:06] <ttyfscker> hlabs:: thats why i directed you to easyubuntu ;)
[01:06] <CvbcAdmin> micahcowan, thank you
[01:06] <geokok> sorry for the double post
[01:06] <IceTox> Do you know what that alternative to Java Sun is?
[01:07] <CvbcAdmin> does anyone feel like having a short private chat?
[01:07] <CvbcAdmin> i was wanting to ask some questions
[01:07] <CvbcAdmin> regarding setting up a
[01:07] <CvbcAdmin> dchp server
[01:07] <jrib> IceTox: blackdown?
[01:07] <CvbcAdmin> firewall and possibly proxy server
[01:08] <jrib> !etner
[01:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about etner - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:08] <soviet> !help
[01:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:08] <CvbcAdmin> but I am very new to ubuntu
[01:08] <jrib> !enter
[01:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:08] <Knome> is it normal for port 6001 to be open? ---> http://pastebin.ca/98975
[01:08] <geokok> anyone about mercury?
[01:08] <Sleeping_Sloth> how do I go about changing the default kernel?
[01:08] <Jmaxxx> does anyone know what package rgb.txt is supposed to be in?
[01:08] <SanketMedhi> CvbcAdmin: go to http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[01:08] <chokes> as a windows user, someone have been recived an : happy birthday from microsoft? LOL
[01:09] <ttyfscker> geokok:: i havent ever got that error
[01:09] <CvbcAdmin> thank you
[01:09] <sharp> i just installed ubuntu server 6.06 on a box i have... and it won
[01:09] <sharp> t boot
[01:09] <CvbcAdmin> SanketMedhi, thank you very much
[01:09] <geokok> ......it figures
[01:09] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: "sudo apt-get install dnsmasq squid" (off the top of my head) will deal with the dhcp and the proxy server, but you've got lots to read until it will all work!
[01:09] <g0st> Does anyone know where the hell apt-get puts java?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> chokes: join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[01:09] <IceTox> jrib, yeah that was what I was looking for :-) thanks :-)
[01:09] <Petri_L> micahcowan siennalizard: nope no change and then I closed xmms satrted vlc mediaplayer and then tried to connect to the skype sound test service and it complained about problems with sound device
[01:09] <g0st> the sdk?
[01:09] <sharp> it just reboots
[01:09] <Zooliegsm> hi all
[01:09] <chokes> ok sorry
[01:09] <chokes> but i just want to say tank you :)
[01:09] <CvbcAdmin> siennalizard, could I borrow about 5 to 10 minutes of your time?
[01:10] <chokes> lol
[01:10] <g0st> I honest to god cannot find where the fscking hell the sdk is.
[01:10] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: fire away, but I haven't long! (need my bed)
[01:10] <CvbcAdmin> I just wanted to ask you some questions to kind of know how does it compare with debian and other ones of that nature
[01:10] <CvbcAdmin> thank you very much
[01:10] <Jmaxxx> this has to be a bug... there's no way in hell that the x package would be missing rgb.txt
[01:10] <Zooliegsm> i cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?
[01:10] <micahcowan> Petri_L: did you ever run that ps auxww | grep command siennalizard asked about? (The argument to grep should be the number that lsof returned earlier)
[01:10] <ttyfscker> g0st::  it dont put it in the normal place.. it puts it in /usr/lib/jvm/
[01:11] <Petri_L> micahcowan: yes hold on
[01:11] <siennalizard> micahcowan: yes he/she did and it was xmms
[01:11] <jrib> Jmaxxx: xrgb gives me that file
[01:11] <Jmaxxx> jrib: ok
[01:11] <g0st> ttyfscker: wtf?
[01:11] <g0st> lol
[01:11] <ttyfscker> g0st:: could question
[01:11] <Jmaxxx> jrib: a-ha! why isn't it required for x?
[01:11] <Gullstad> How watch all your internett trafic on the terminal?
[01:11] <micahcowan> siennalizard: well... then it should have worked, even in oss-mode, shouldn't it have?
[01:12] <g0st> Gullstad: tcpdump
[01:12] <sharp> can anybody help? my computer is restarting right when grub shows the boot command
[01:12] <ttyfscker> complain to the developers that they need to at least create a symlink in /usr/java/
[01:12] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: do you want to pm?
[01:12] <Jmaxxx> oh well
[01:12] <g0st> Gullstad: tcpdump, tethereal
[01:12] <jrib> Jmaxxx: xorg-common has xrgb as a dependency
[01:12] <CvbcAdmin> siennalizard, yes please
[01:12] <Zooliegsm> i cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?
[01:12] <CvbcAdmin> siennalizard, I wouldn't take too long
[01:12] <CvbcAdmin> I've sent you a couple of lines through the pm
[01:12] <geokok> can anybody send me mercury+JVM from here http://www.mercury.to/index.php?page=Downloads (the linux version) cause the HTTP does not work and I cant use torrent in the uni
[01:13] <Petri_L> siennalizard micahcowna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18823
[01:14] <micahcowan> Petri_L: did you ever have sound working/does ubuntu startup with some "cool" sounds?
[01:15] <Twish`> how can i edit ubuntu kernel?
[01:15] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: are you registered and identify-ed with freenode? I haven't had your pm come through.
[01:16] <ttyfscker> Twish`:: you need the kernel sources.. and its not something you normally should have to do..
[01:16] <ttyfscker> Twish`:: what is your reason for wanting to create your own kernel?
[01:16] <Twish`> i want to setup interent connection
[01:16] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[01:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:16] <ttyfscker> Twish`:: what makes you think that involves the kernel?
[01:16] <Twish`> i need to edit adsl parameters
[01:16] <CvbcAdmin> siennalizard, no I'm not registered
[01:17] <CvbcAdmin> how do I do that?
[01:17] <CvbcAdmin> I've sent you a bunch of lines through pm
[01:17] <Petri_L> micahcowan: I have shut those sounds off but yes I have sound but I can't have more than one program at the time that uses the sound and sometimes nothing
[01:17] <GlassCasket> Could someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies
[01:17] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: read up on /msg nickserv help
[01:17] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: can't remember offhand.
[01:17] <CvbcAdmin> ok
[01:17] <CvbcAdmin> I can read your messages though
[01:18] <andriijas> how do i uninstall java 1.4.2 ??
[01:18] <micahcowan> Petri_L: is xmms currently set to eSound Output?
[01:18] <Twish`> is is true that ubuntu comes without gtk and qt libraries?
[01:18] <tuxxo> hi
[01:18] <Petri_L> micahcowna: yes
[01:18] <micahcowan> Petri_L: perhaps try logging out completely, and then back in again?
[01:18] <crimsun> Twish`: since ubuntu uses gnome, which is based on gtk+, that's highly unlikely.
[01:18] <siennalizard> CvbcAdmin: accept you can't type back. No matter. I'll start a new channel. See you in linux-server
[01:19] <ttyfscker> Petri_L:: xmms likes to use up all of your sound channels.. especially when using alsa output..
[01:19] <crimsun> Twish`: since kubuntu uses kde, which is based on qt, that's also highly unlikely.
[01:19] <micahcowan> ttyfscker: but not if it's using esd...
[01:19] <nickuu> Is there any way to change a windows boot device without going through BIOS ?
[01:19] <ttyfscker> micahcowan:: yea it does sometimes
[01:19] <prophet> what was that art package that you can browse for themes i had it but reinstalled i forgot the command
[01:19] <Petri_L> All helping me: Okay brb =)
[01:19] <micahcowan> ttyfscker: I though esd makes that more-or-less impossible (provided everything uses it)
[01:19] <ttyfscker> use esd.. and see if your sound through vmware works micahcowan
[01:19] <Twish`> then i send kernel source from kernel.org and tried to compile using qconfig or gconfig it says that i havent gtk/qt libraries installed
[01:20] <micahcowan> don't have vmware :-(
[01:20] <andriijas> how do i uninstall java 1.4.2? please
[01:20] <Sleeping_Sloth> how do I run a new kernel I have downloaded with synaptic?
[01:20] <micahcowan> Anyway, vmware probably doesn't use esd. Everything has to use esd for that to work.
[01:20] <micahcowan> The first thing to use /dev/dsp gets all of it. :-(
[01:20] <rpedro> prophet: go here instead >> art.gnome.org
[01:20] <siennalizard> Sleeping_Sloth: when you next boot up, select it in grub
[01:20] <Zooliegsm> i cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?
[01:20] <Sleeping_Sloth> siennalizard: it doesnt appear.... have I missed something?
[01:20] <ttyfscker> micahcowan:: i think its more or less just xmms..
[01:20] <prophet> i know about that there was another thing i got via apt-get but i dont remember the name of it
[01:21] <rpedro> prophet: one sec
[01:21] <jrib> !themes
[01:21] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:21] <ttyfscker> micahcowan:: i can use banshee, rhythmbox, or anything else and sound works fine with vmware
[01:21] <Sleeping_Sloth> I am using -k8 and I want to move to k8-smp because I _believe_ it has NUMA support
[01:21] <livingdaylight> siennalizard: ok, not sure how to add that commercial repo
[01:21] <prophet> it was calle dlike gnome art manager or something
[01:21] <micahcowan> Huh. And that's with the eSound plugin active?
[01:21] <smo> Twish`: you likely don't have -dev packages to match the libraries.  try apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev or libgtk2.0-dev (depending what gconfig is asking for)
[01:21] <ttyfscker> yea
[01:21] <rpedro> prophet: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[01:22] <prophet> yeahh thanks pedro
[01:22] <micahcowan> weird.
[01:22] <Gio2k> synaptic can't connect to the internet repositories, i am behind a proxy and have already put the proxy information on network preferences, but it won't connect, can someone help me?
[01:22] <chokes> it have a guide for optimizing the memory usage in dapper?
[01:23] <Twish`> is there a channel discusing how to install adsl pppoe?
[01:23] <micahcowan> Petri_L: any luck?
[01:23] <bimberi> !pppoe
[01:23] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[01:23] <Petri_L> micahcowan: nope
[01:23] <micahcowan> :(
[01:23] <GlassCasket> Could someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies
[01:23] <prophet> anyone from oregon? i tryed #ubuntu-pdx but it doesnt exist
[01:24] <micahcowan> Well, I guess it /is/ time to try another player, then. rhythmbox seems to be widely recommended...
[01:24] <ttyfscker> Petri_L:: does your sound work with other media players?
[01:24] <chokes> can someone can tell me plz?
[01:25] <prophet> they should turn the built in theme manager into the art manager
[01:25] <Sleeping_Sloth> siennalizard: have you got any idea why the k8-smp kernel is not appearing in grub?
[01:26] <Petri_L> ttyfscker: Okay now I satrted rythmbox sure sound! then I started vlc mediaplayer and staretd a movie okay sure picture but no sound
[01:26] <micahcowan> Petri_L: had you been able to get sound with that same movie on that same player before?
[01:27] <ttyfscker> pppoeconf  Twish`
[01:27] <ttyfscker> sudo apt-get install pppoeconf
[01:27] <Petri_L> micahcowan: yes a couple of minutes ago
[01:27] <Petri_L>  =)
[01:27] <IceTox> java wasn't made for linux now was it? :-)
[01:27] <ttyfscker> Petri_L:: in vlc, go in your options, and choose advanced.. and see what the sound server is set to
[01:28] <GlassCasket> Could someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.
[01:28] <Twish`> then i do pppoe conf it says that ethernet divise not responding, any ideas?
[01:28] <yggdrasil> hello, is there any way in ubuntu to mount a cue/bin file ? like dtools in w32 ?
[01:29] <ttyfscker> Twish`::  what does ifconfig  show you?
[01:29] <micahcowan> yggdrasil, an ISO image binary?
[01:29] <ttyfscker> dont paste it all.. just the device such as eth0 or eth1
[01:29] <Sleeping_Sloth> can anyone suggest why an installed kernel might not be shown in grub?
[01:29] <yggdrasil> its a bin/cue sorry.
[01:29] <yggdrasil> i guessei ts an iso bin.
[01:29] <scabootssca> whats hdb1 in gru?
[01:29] <Agrajag> there are cdrom emulation programs that let you do that, yggdrasil, but it's easier usually to just use bchunk to turn it into an ISO and mount that
[01:29] <Zooliegsm> i cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?
[01:29] <scabootssca> *grub
[01:29] <Petri_L> ttyfscker: soundserver? didn't find anything
[01:29] <ttyfscker> hdb1 = partition 1 on hard drive hdb
[01:29] <quithos> #ubuntu-br-tradutores
[01:30] <scabootssca> like in the grub format? (hd?,?)
[01:30] <ttyfscker> Petri_L::  its the click down menu that shows Enlightened Sound Daemon, OSS, and Alsa
[01:30] <quithos> join /#ubuntu-br-tradutores
[01:30] <Powerbook`> for a new user us ubuntu/kubuntu good?
[01:30] <micahcowan> yggdrasil, I think the cue file is unneeded. You can do sudo mount <file> -t iso9660 -o loop <mount point>
[01:30] <micahcowan> where file is the .bin
[01:30] <yggdrasil> ok ill give it a shot.
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[01:31] <Powerbook`> Is Kubuntu good for a new Linux user?
[01:31] <ttyfscker> Petri_L:: you have to click on the menu and go into the Preferences/Options of VLC  and go to the Sound part.. and click the checkbox that says show advanced options
[01:31] <jrib> Powerbook`: yes, there is also xubuntu which is good for older systems
[01:31] <Powerbook`> I have a new 80gb hd :P
[01:31] <GlassCasket> scabootssca: (hd`number of the drive which starts by 0`, `partition number`)
[01:31] <jrib> Powerbook`: how much ram?
[01:31] <Crescendo> I have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?
[01:31] <dibblego> which file(s) do I update to change my DNS settings and search suffixes?
[01:31] <Powerbook`> jrib - How do I check with ubuntu live cd?
[01:31] <Powerbook`> is there a command?
[01:31] <scabootssca> ok
[01:32] <quithos> join ubuntu-br-tradutores
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[01:32] <Agrajag> micahcowan: that won't work, a .bin file is not an ISO filessytem image
[01:32] <micahcowan> yggdrasil, oh, if I read Agrajag's msg and bchunk's description right, then your .bin isn't an iso, and you'll need to convert it first (as he says). Then you'll run my command on the resulting ISO...
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[01:32] <Agrajag> yeah
[01:32] <ttyfscker> GlassCasket:: partitions are named starting with 1
[01:32] <jrib> Powerbook`: go to applications > accessories > terminal and type: free -m
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[01:32] <scabootssca> whats the booting partition for windows where hdb is a windows drive?
[01:32] <quithos> #ubuntu-br
[01:32] <scabootssca> just windws
[01:32] <GlassCasket> ttyfscker: I didnnt say partitions started at 0, I said that the drive starts at 0
[01:33] <Powerbook`> jrib: 495 mb
[01:33] <Powerbook`> is ther good?
[01:33] <NickyChic> Hi, i am trying to install ubuntu on my system which is currently win XP but when i boot up with the live CD, it wont run. Any ideas how to fix that or start the install through windows?
[01:33] <Powerbook`> that*
[01:33] <Petri_L> ttyfscker: eeh not sure Audio output module: standard
[01:33] <ttyfscker> GlassCasket::  what do you mean the drive starts at 0
[01:33] <GlassCasket> ttyfscker: hd0, hd1, hd2...
[01:33] <ttyfscker> Petri_L::  is that a drop down box?
[01:33] <jrib> Powerbook`: yep both ubuntu and kubuntu should run fine for you, just install the one you like the best (you should be able to test both using the live cd)
[01:33] <ttyfscker> GlassCasket:: thats not right..
[01:33] <GlassCasket> ttyfscker: Do you have an ide or sata drive?
[01:33] <marcus__> hi im having trouble getting other folders to show up under public_html
[01:33] <ttyfscker> GlassCasket:: its hda1 /sda1
[01:34] <NickyChic> It runs when i open it in windows, just not booting the live OS
[01:34] <jordan> Can somebody help me?
[01:34] <ttyfscker> where a is the first drive recognized to the system
[01:34] <jrib> !ask
[01:34] <ttyfscker> its not hd0
[01:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:34] <GlassCasket> ttyfscker: It is when you're in the Grub prompt
[01:34] <ttyfscker> 0,0 = hda1
[01:34] <jordan> How can i install ie6 in winetools without accsess to the download.microsoft website
[01:34] <jordan> My provider blocks it
[01:35] <Petri_L> ttyfscker: you mean what it shows under the dropdown box?: Archive, ALsa, Oss
[01:35] <SuperMiguel> hello
[01:35] <johnny_> how do i get mozilla mplayer to be my default web streaming player?
[01:35] <ttyfscker> Petri_L::  change it to OSS or Enlightened Sound Daemon
[01:35] <sktx> jordan: why would you want to install ie6 under linux???
[01:35] <SuperMiguel> i have a .tgz file in my desktop how can i tell the terminal that look in the desktop
[01:35] <marcus__> hi im having trouble getting other folders to show up under public_html (my user apache folder)
[01:35] <ttyfscker> Petri_L::  apply the changes and then try to see if it works
[01:35] <jrib> Powerbook`: be sure to check out help.ubuntu.com too.  These are the manuals that you have in the help menu, but online
[01:35] <jordan> Because im using wine for some things that need it and also Some websites are IE only
[01:36] <jordan> But ie sux
[01:36] <GlassCasket> ttyfscker: But when you're configuring your grub.conf or whatever, you always put (hd`drive number`, `partitions number`)
[01:36] <johnny_> i'm having trouble watching video on the web
[01:36] <johnny_> can someone help
[01:37] <marcus__> !restrictedformats
[01:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <johnny_> i have mozilla-mplayer installed but it doesnt show up
[01:37] <jordan> ...
[01:37] <gamma> is there a page out there that says how my /home directory should be structured? I noticed Gnome apps use Documents and Pictures.. are there any other directories names i should use to take full advantage of gtk-file-chooser?
[01:37] <ttyfscker> johnny_:: do you have mozplugger ?
[01:37] <johnny_> not sure
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> how can i access to my desktop from the terminal
[01:37] <ttyfscker> apt-get it
[01:38] <johnny_> what all do i need to get mozzila-mplayer to work?
[01:38] <johnny_> is that part of it?
[01:38] <Ronz> what are the commands to add different parameters to glxgears?
[01:38] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper (AMD64) on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software-acceleration OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?
[01:38] <GlassCasket> Ronz: I believe doing `man glxgears` will give you all of its parameters
[01:38] <ttyfscker> johnny_:: i dont think its part of mozilla-mplayer.. but it will let you use external apps inside firefox/mozilla to playback audio/video
[01:39] <prophet> firefox now broke it worked fine now when i click on it the spinning wheel comes up and then after 5 sec it disappears and firefox doesnt launch
[01:39] <yggdrasil> Agrajag whats that bchunk cmd ?
[01:39] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: software opengl is never accelerated :)
[01:39] <johnny_> alright
[01:39] <Agrajag> yggdrasil: oh I don't know exactly, I haven't used it in years
[01:39] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: I can't get opengl to work period
[01:39] <johnny_> how to i set mplayer as the default ttyfscker
[01:39] <Agrajag> Did you read the bchunk manual? It should tell you what to do
[01:40] <ConfuZed> ....
[01:40] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: are you running the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[01:40] <ConfuZed> Is my goal possible
[01:40] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: yes
[01:40] <ttyfscker> johnm:: unless you have xine installed mozilla will default to mplayer for the appropriate media type
[01:40] <Petri_L> ttyfscker: no change oh I just rememberd somethign I have a friend who said I was missing somthing called /dev/snd/seq if that has anything to do with it
[01:40] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: I mentioned this in the big problem statement
[01:40] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: the binary drivers work OK on my HP nx6125 (Mobile Sempron, same chipset)
[01:41] <johnm> ttyfscker: thanks for letting me know ;)
[01:41] <johnny_> well i have mozilla installed but when i try to watch commedy central no media player will show up
[01:41] <GlassCasket> Could someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.
[01:41] <pjw> Hi all, During my system loads, between the start of Linux and login I have to wait long time. Do you have this problem? English isn't the first language so my sentences can include mistakes.
[01:41] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: well, could have been that you just wanted to point out which kind of processor you have...
[01:41] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: understandable.
[01:41] <prophet> firefox opens when i use the sudo command but now when i double click on it?
[01:41] <songo> I cant burn a dvd-rw, who's able to burn dvds?
[01:41] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: anyway, works fine with x86 (32 bit) ubuntu for me
[01:42] <ttyfscker> prophet:: you are using a bad plugin for the user most likely
[01:42] <Sleeping_Sloth> I need a little help with using a new kernel
[01:42] <prophet> how do i remove the plugin i think its "faster fox"
[01:42] <ttyfscker> prophet:: did you install java since it quit working?
[01:42] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: well, do you have a 64-bit processor?
[01:42] <ttyfscker> faster fox?
[01:42] <yggdrasil> agrajag thanks
[01:42] <prophet> yeah i installed easyubuntu java but worked for alittle
[01:42] <Sleeping_Sloth> I'm using synaptic, and there is no linux-image for the kernel i have installed....??
[01:43] <prophet> where do the plugins resizide
[01:43] <ttyfscker> prophet:: your plugins are stored in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  and /home/username/.mozilla/plugins/
[01:43] <kitsuneofdoom> Sleeping_Sloth: did you make your own kernel?
[01:43] <coachJ> anyone know what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?
[01:43] <prophet> why so many places
[01:43] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: no. but I could simply swap the mobile sempron for a turion to have 64 bit capability...
[01:43] <prophet> aha well nm
[01:43] <Sleeping_Sloth> kitsuneofdoom: no- I downloaded one with synaptic
[01:43] <ConfuZed> hello? Is there a way to install IE6 with no accsess to download.microsoft.com? I Need help bad
[01:43] <ttyfscker> the /home directory is for user settings   the /usr is global
[01:43] <Sleeping_Sloth> kitsuneofdoom: but there is no corresponding linux-imge
[01:43] <ad> I'm running dapper 32, apps don't open windows in the workspace they're started in, they open in the workspace you switch 2 after execution - is there any way to reverse this?
[01:44] <prophet> what plugin do u think is doing it
[01:44] <yggdrasil> agrajac one think im not cealr on. heres my cmd do i have to append .iso at the end? bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo
[01:44] <d33t> Anyone know anything about ices/icecast? Specifically if the ices version matters when streaming from ALSA or OSS.....
[01:44] <Agrajag> yggdrasil: it can't hurt, I suppose
[01:44] <yggdrasil> hmm. ok
[01:44] <yggdrasil> tahnks
[01:44] <ttyfscker> prophet:: do this ls /home/yourusername/.mozilla/plugins/
[01:44] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: and, from what I've heard so far, ubuntu amd64 causes a lot of problems so that you are usually better of using the 32 bit version
[01:44] <prophet> ill just unhide them
[01:44] <ddonky> anyone use a sirius s50 with ubuntu?
[01:44] <ttyfscker> prophet:: tell me what results that returns.. be sure you put your current username in that
[01:45] <johnny_> i have mozilla-mplayer and mozplugger installed but i still dont get any video
[01:45] <johnny_> any idea?
[01:45] <GlassCasket> Could someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.
[01:45] <speedy> whats a good clustering tool for load-balancing?
[01:45] <ttyfscker> johnm:: type in about:plugins   in your browsers URL field
[01:46] <d33t> hrm, how about this, anyone have *any* icecast/ices experience?
[01:46] <ttyfscker> johnny_:: i meant
[01:46] <Agrajag> icecast yes, ices no
[01:46] <prophet> thwere is no plugin in .mozilla
[01:46] <d33t> hrm...... what do you use to stream to icecast?
[01:46] <Agrajag> mpd
[01:46] <johnny_> and what am i looking for ttyfscker
[01:46] <ttyfscker> prophet:: launche the command firefox from the terminal
[01:46] <ttyfscker> see what it gives you
[01:47] <prophet> nothing happens it just creates a new blank line
[01:47] <prophet> i tryed
[01:47] <Twish`> when i do pppoeconf, it found eth0 and then scans for the my isp concentrator, but not found ;(, any ideas?
[01:47] <wanglin-sir> hi,when I run "update-rc.d fcitx defaults" command line,it tell me "System startup links for /etc/init.d/fcitx already exist.
[01:47] <wanglin-sir> "  but where is the links????
[01:47] <prophet> if i do sudo firefox it work
[01:47] <prophet> s
[01:47] <bnsi> johnny_, you can always try easyubuntu, usually sorts out the streaming and embedded video for me
[01:47] <ttyfscker> johnny_:: do you have the mozplugger /mplayer plugins listed in about:plugins
[01:47] <prophet> its like its a premissions issues
[01:47] <d33t> Agrajag, this just another media player?
[01:47] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software-acceleration OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?
[01:47] <Agrajag> yeah pretty much
[01:47] <Petri_L> So I guess my problem is a lost cause?
[01:47] <johnny_> yes ttyfscker
[01:48] <ttyfscker> johnny_:: they should be working then
[01:48] <d33t> looks cool, i'll give it a spin. need anything special to get it to talk to icecast?
[01:48] <Agrajag> yeah, you might have to build the latest version from SVN
[01:48] <Agrajag> I don't know if any official version contains icecast support yet
[01:48] <johnny_> wait
[01:48] <johnny_> mozplugger is listed
[01:48] <johnny_> but it doesnt show enabled : yes like the others
[01:48] <prophet> starting firefox.... then it disappears
[01:48] <ad> are there extensions or scripts for gnome on dapper?
[01:49] <d33t> hrm..... looking to stick to the packages. i'll get it from the repository and see what happens I guess
[01:49] <d33t> worth a shot right
[01:49] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: my advice, as I already told you: use ubuntu x86
[01:49] <wanglin-sir> johnny_,
[01:49] <wanglin-sir> I have a question
[01:49] <wanglin-sir> help me
[01:49] <Agrajag> d33t: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Icecast_and_Musicpd this is for freebsd but the same information applies
[01:49] <Agrajag> especially in regards to the configuration file
[01:49] <johnny_> i'll try wanglin-sir
[01:49] <wanglin-sir> ,when I run "update-rc.d fcitx defaults" command line,it tell me "System startup links for /etc/init.d/fcitx already exist.
[01:49] <wanglin-sir> wanglin-sir "  but where is the links????
[01:49] <Agrajag> d33t: you can try the package but I don't think it'll work. Never know.
[01:50] <d33t> i'll check it out, thanks
[01:50] <d33t> yeah, i have my doubts
[01:50] <d33t> but i rather not compile things if i don't have to
[01:50] <mehdi> HI All :)
[01:50] <johnny_> i'm not sure
[01:50] <coachJ> anyone know what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?
[01:50] <Sleeping_Sloth> anyone know how I go about using the k8-smp kernel?
[01:50] <ttyfscker> johnny_:: do you not have a big long list of files below the mozplugger part?
[01:50] <wanglin-sir> thanks
[01:50] <Crescendo> I have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?
[01:50] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: Thank you for your advice, but I'd rather not
[01:50] <Agrajag> coachJ: is that an image file, or text document, or what?
[01:51] <coachJ> image
[01:51] <Agrajag> if it's an image you might want to try gimp
[01:51] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: ok
[01:51] <bnsi> coachJ XnView might do it
[01:51] <coachJ> gimp didnt open
[01:51] <johnny_> no ttyfscker
[01:51] <coachJ> ok
[01:51] <johnny_> it just says mozplugger and there are three sections
[01:51] <prophet> yeah it still doenst work
[01:51] <Twish`> what to do if pppoe conf didnt fount access concentration (i have internal adsl modem AcessRunner)
[01:52] <ttyfscker> johnny im going to pm you
[01:52] <mehdi> 
[01:52] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: but why not? AMD64 doesn't have any real benefits at the moment (besides being incredibly cool)
[01:52] <johnny_> k
[01:52] <bnsi> coachJ http://perso.orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enformats.html
[01:52] <coachJ> thks
[01:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> is anyone here running the k8-smp kernel?
[01:53] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: not true...math processing is faster
[01:53] <snoops> gregg__ interesting how amd just bought ati
[01:53] <mehdi> i have a question
[01:53] <coachJ> bnsi:thks looks like that is the one
[01:53] <GlassCasket> Could someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.
[01:54] <coachJ> but not in a repos i have
[01:54] <bnsi> coachJ unfortunately not, you're going to have to download it from the site
[01:54] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: yeah... but not that much, especially not if the software hasn't been optimized for 64 bit processors
[01:54] <coachJ> yep
[01:55] <mehdi> after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[01:55] <mehdi> please help me
[01:55] <gregg__> 64bit might be important if you habve lotsa and lotsa of RAM... but I don't see many more reasons for it ATM
[01:55] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: It will, eventually, and ATi has released 64 drivers, so that's not the problem
[01:56] <gregg__> ATT's drivers are shit, as usual (and the 64bit ones even more!), so it IS a problem :)
[01:56] <adrian__> bye all
[01:56] <Twish`> how to patch the kernel?
[01:56] <prophet> anymore suggestions on why firefox doesnt launch
[01:57] <adrian__> patch -p1 < patch.diff
[01:57] <a2xm> hi all, can I just reinstall ubuntu to fix my broken GRUB? pls help...
[01:57] <jrib> prophet: killall firefox-bin; firefox
[01:57] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: Well,
[01:57] <adrian__> a2xm: no, try grub-install and read /boot/grub/
[01:57] <mehdi> after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[01:57] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: all ATi drivers are shit anyway
[01:57] <adrian__> kitsuneofdoom: true ;-)
[01:58] <kitsuneofdoom> gregg__: I would have gotten a Nvidia if I could
[01:58] <prophet> jrib i restarted and it still does it its not running in the bg
[01:58] <a2xm> adrian__: grub-install using grub shell right? i've try it and failed.
[01:58] <jrib> prophet: firefox -safe-mode, does this work?
[01:58] <gregg__> kitsuneofdoom: same here
[01:58] <GlassCasket> a2xm: What error do you get?
[01:58] <a2xm> adrian__: btw, are you from indonesia?
[01:58] <ttyfscker> i've got a Nvidia FX 5500 AGP thats brand new if anyone is interested in buying it cheap
[01:58] <adrian__> a2xm: no, from poland ;-)
[01:58] <a2xm> GlassCasket: error 17
[01:58] <gregg__> the x200m chipset itself isn't bad at all... actually it is the fastest IGP chipset
[01:59] <prophet> yes
[01:59] <prophet> i starts in safemode
[01:59] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Could you describe your setup please? Like how many hardrives you have, are they ide or sata?
[01:59] <Twish`> what to do what ubuntu detects my gtk+ libraries while i do make gconfig command?
[01:59] <jrib> prophet: I can't remember, can you remove extensions that way?
[01:59] <wanglin-sir> when I run "apt-get install stardict
[01:59] <wanglin-sir> "
[02:00] <adrian__> a2xm: show error :] 
[02:00] <adrian__> a2xm: from grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda
[02:00] <a2xm> GlassCasket: just 1 IDE drive (hda).
[02:00] <prophet> YES jrib it was the stupid Fast Fox plugin!! thanks
[02:00] <GlassCasket> a2xm: grub-install /dev/hda
[02:00] <jrib> prophet: np
[02:01] <gregg__> fasterfox? works OK for me :)
[02:01] <a2xm> GlassCasket: from where?
[02:01] <GlassCasket> a2xm: From the console
[02:01] <a2xm> GlassCasket: live CD?
[02:01] <adrian__> 02:00 < adrian__> a2xm: from grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda
[02:01] <livingdaylight> whoever gave me the unofficial wiki or Dapper starter guide - THANK YOU
[02:01] <wanglin-sir> when I run "apt-get install stardict" it show not find the stardict , how to ?
[02:01] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Are you in Windows, right now?
[02:01] <adrian__> a2xm: use acronics os selector :-)
[02:01] <jrib> wanglin-sir: you need to enable universe
[02:01] <a2xm> GlassCasket: kubuntu live CD
[02:02] <jrib> !universe > wanglin-sir
[02:02] <rafa> hi everyone
[02:02] <Marco99> Is there a way to make skip forward and backward to work in streams?
[02:02] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Are your Ubuntu partitions mounted?
[02:02] <jrib> Marco99: mplayer seems to do that for some streams
[02:02] <scabootssca> how do i totally uninstall grub and then reiunstall it?
[02:02] <wanglin-sir> jrib, how to do ?
[02:02] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?
[02:02] <a2xm> GlassCasket: i'll make it
[02:03] <Marco99> what about for asx streams?
[02:03] <gregg__> Marco99: it's not possible for "live" streams
[02:03] <wanglin-sir> jrib, i am newer
[02:03] <jrib> wanglin-sir: ubotu should have sent you some info in a private message, did you get it?
[02:03] <VegaObscura> !mount
[02:03] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:03] <wanglin-sir> jrib ,i have no read it
[02:03] <Twish`> !pppoe
[02:03] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:03] <ad> hey people, busy here tonight - if anyone knows about customizing gnome I'd be appreciative :)
[02:03] <bnsi> !bum
[02:03] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:03] <Marco99> Is it possible to play asx streams in Kaffeine?
[02:03] <jrib> wanglin-sir: just follow the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[02:03] <jrib> !themes > ad
[02:04] <wanglin-sir> jrib, thanks
[02:04] <ad> jrib: how do i find !themes?
[02:04] <jrib> ad: check your private messages from ubotu
[02:04] <sergio> i am trying to update a 5.10 ubuntu to 6.06, but i keep getting the message that there are no new upgrades, anyone can help?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ad: read yoru pm
[02:04] <mehdi> hi all -- . i have a question
[02:04] <mehdi> after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[02:05] <Marco99> gregg__: Is it possible to play asx streams in Kaffeiene?
[02:05] <metalhedd> I'm trying to set up my tv-out on my nvidia card, it keeps limiting my monitor res to 1024x768 and treating the tv kinda like an extension to the current desktop, mouse goes off the right hand side and it shows up on the TV.  are there other ways to configure it that won't limit me to 1024x768?
[02:05] <ad> jrib: I had that once beore - is ubotu a bot or some special user?
[02:05] <a2xm> GlassCasket: ok. mounted my ubuntu partition
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ad: bot
[02:05] <gregg__> Marco99: it should work, but I'm not entirely sure
[02:05] <jrib> !ubotu
[02:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:05] <VegaObscura> can someone tell me how to mount my partitions?
[02:05] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Do `sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[02:05] <limes24> when I ran a Ubuntu live CD on my iBook G3/500, it recongnized my AirPort wireless card automatically and allowed me to set it up. it also had a battery monitor in the upper-right system tray. On the Xubuntu live CD I'm running now, it can't find a network device for the AirPort card, and there's no battery monitor. should I find and install these things (how?) or just install ubuntu?
[02:06] <GlassCasket> !ubotu mount
[02:06] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:06] <ad> jrib: does it automatically respond to keywords?
[02:06] <VegaObscura> administration -> disks doesnt let me mount them
[02:06] <prophet> where is the option to turn off the login screen
[02:06] <jrib> ad: yes, he's invoked with a !
[02:06] <Twish`> is here anyone who uses adsl AccessRunner pppoe modem?
[02:06] <jrib> ad: you can also just /msg him for info, for example: /msg ubotu themes
[02:06] <ad> jrib: so would go !xinerama for example?
[02:07] <GlassCasket> VegaObscura: You have to create a mount point, then mount it. (eg. sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu /dev/drivehere)
[02:07] <ad> !xinerama
[02:07] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[02:07] <ad> sweet
[02:07] <VegaObscura> last night someone showed me something about downloading a script then activating it
[02:07] <Twish`> the only thing left - to setup internet connection, and i delete windows forever
[02:07] <VegaObscura> and it worked perfect
[02:07] <mehdi> after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[02:07] <ad> jrib: how do u send ubotu output to someone?
[02:08] <javiolo> hi
[02:08] <a2xm> GlassCasket: that's sudo grub-install [ubuntu partition]  right?
[02:08] <javiolo> ad !tell nick about something
[02:08] <jrib> ad: !factoid > someone               you can read the wiki page ubotu said before about usage for more advance stuff
[02:08] <goonies> rhythmbox and ipod is real nice
[02:08] <a2xm> GlassCasket: sudo grub-install /dev/hda5
[02:08] <ad> jrib: top, thanx
[02:08] <Twish`> who can help me with setting up internal accessRunner adsl modem? :)
[02:08] <VegaObscura> when i do sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu /dev/hda1 it says file exists
[02:09] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Correct, but you only have to put in the hardrive I believe
[02:09] <a2xm> GlassCasket: i'm using dual boot with win xp
[02:09] <ad> javiolo: hey, i'll have a go
[02:09] <a2xm> GlassCasket: my win xp is on hda1
[02:09] <a2xm> GlassCasket: is that OK?
[02:09] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Yes.
[02:09] <VegaObscura> !mountntfs
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about mountntfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:10] <yggdrasil> agrajac binchunk made 2 isos and one mount but the other doesnt
[02:10] <limes24> !AirPort
[02:10] <Twish`> i almost lost the hope to have fully working ubuntu with internet connection ;(
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about AirPort - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:10] <yggdrasil> agrajac binchunk made 2 isos and one mount but the other doesnt. and i can mount the first one but not the second one.
[02:10] <metalhedd> ubuntuuser
[02:11] <ad> !gnome > ad
[02:12] <yggdrasil> screw it im just just gonna plug in the dvd  burner and burn this thing.
[02:12] <javiolo> !rar
[02:12] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:12] <a2xm> GlassCasket: this's what i got:
[02:12] <a2xm> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda5
[02:12] <a2xm> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[02:12] <a2xm> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:12] <metalhedd> !twinview
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about twinview - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:12] <mehdi> can anyone answer my question please!!!
[02:12] <mehdi> !GP
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about GP - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:12] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Do `sudo grub-install /dev/hda`
[02:12] <Paladine> metalhead man nvidia-xconfig
[02:12] <nickuu> I have the ubuntu install disc in my cd drive but it wont boot on restart
[02:12] <VegaObscura> im having the exact same problem a2xm
[02:13] <nickuu> !install
[02:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:13] <a2xm> adrian__: i'm using this to reinstall my grub http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Re-install_Grub_with_Live_CD
[02:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi
[02:13] <VegaObscura> hi
[02:13] <mehdi> can anyone answer my question please!!!
[02:13] <mehdi> !after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> is anyone using kvirc on ubuntu?
[02:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i cannot compile it
[02:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :(((
[02:14] <a2xm> adrian__: and failed on the last 3 lines of setup grub
[02:14] <Flannel> cyber_brain_mfkg: it's in the repositories, why compile?
[02:14] <VegaObscura> a2xm, i am having the EXACT same problem
[02:14] <cyber_brain_mfkg> where can i find it?
[02:14] <VegaObscura> and its being a *inpolite word*
[02:14] <ai`> Hi.  I came in here earlier with a problem regarding the Mac LiveCD and file truncation.  My problem's really weird -- are there any Mac experts around?
[02:14] <a2xm> VegaObscura: grub error 17?
[02:14] <VegaObscura> yes
[02:14] <Flannel> cyber_brain_mfkg: it's in universe
[02:15] <VegaObscura> and also the other error when trying to do chroot
[02:15] <VegaObscura> and if i try and reinstall ubuntu
[02:15] <VegaObscura> it seems to recognize my hard drive as full of unallocated space
[02:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Flannel: hm... i'm kinda new in linux world
[02:15] <VegaObscura> but it actually has 3 partitions on it, 2 windows and 1 ubuntu
[02:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> can u explain me?
[02:15] <GlassCasket> VegaObscura: Is your drive mounted?
[02:15] <Flannel> !tell cyber_brain_mfkg about repositories
[02:15] <VegaObscura> no not yet
[02:16] <VegaObscura> thats what im trying to fix
[02:16] <nickuu> I currently have windows installed on a computer - is it possible to delete and the install ubuntu using only the ubuntu CD ?!
[02:16] <VegaObscura> i cant seem to mount it
[02:16] <GlassCasket> VegaObscura: What error do you get?
[02:16] <Flannel> cyber_brain_mfkg: ubotu sent you some links, that'll explain what repositories are, and the second will explain how to add them, both command line, and graphically
[02:16] <VegaObscura> last time i mounted my drives it was really easy
[02:16] <Flannel> nickuu: yes
[02:16] <VegaObscura> someone in here gave me a link to a page, and it gave me the exact commands
[02:16] <VegaObscura> and it mounted all my drives
[02:16] <VegaObscura> but i cant find that page now
[02:16] <nickuu> Just boot and start installation Flannel ?
[02:16] <sethk> nickuu, of course, yes
[02:17] <ad> nickuu: that should do it
[02:17] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Flannel: thanx a lot
[02:17] <ad> nickuu: what's going wrong?
[02:17] <Flannel> nickuu: you want to delete windows entirely?  Yeah.  then you don't have to do anything beforehand
[02:17] <nickuu> thankyou:D
[02:17] <GlassCasket> VegaObscura: I may be able to hepl if yoiu give mt he error message.
[02:17] <sethk> nick58b, it will ask you whether to use the windows space, or not.
[02:17] <nickuu> bye windows
[02:17] <VegaObscura> im trying to get it, one sec
[02:17] <nickuu> :>
[02:18] <Caprisun> hi
[02:18] <silvio> jk
[02:18] <VegaObscura> it may cause flooding, as it is several lines long
[02:18] <VegaObscura> should i paste it anyway?
[02:18] <VegaObscura> or PM you?
[02:18] <GlassCasket> VegaObscura: pastebin.ca
[02:18] <d33t> VegaObscura, check out pastebin.com
[02:19] <VegaObscura> yes, what do i do with it?
[02:19] <GlassCasket> paste it in there ;)
[02:19] <d33t> heh
[02:19] <VegaObscura> and then?
[02:19] <d33t> i was about to say that
[02:19] <Caprisun> does anyone here know how to setup Proftpd
[02:19] <d33t> it will give you a link
[02:19] <ad> !tell ad about repositories
[02:19] <d33t> paste that link here
[02:19] <Caprisun> i followed a tut but i still get a 530 ms
[02:19] <Caprisun> for the password
[02:19] <yggdrasil> no way in linux to mount a bin/cue image ?
[02:20] <VegaObscura> pastebin gives me a php error
[02:21] <d33t> yggdrasil - check out http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[02:21] <VegaObscura> can someone give me the exact command to mount my drive? its ntfs
[02:21] <VegaObscura> or all of them at once would be nice, as i have 3
[02:21] <yggdrasil> will k3b burn a bin/cue ?
[02:21] <d33t> yggdrasil - don't think so....
[02:21] <yggdrasil> :(
[02:21] <d33t> check out cdemu
[02:22] <d33t> it's pretty easy to use
[02:22] <javiolo> how do I decompress 3 zips file that are cutted
[02:22] <GlassCasket> VegaObscura: Try `mkdir /mnt/ntfs1 && mount -t ntfs /dev/your_drive_here /mnt/nfts1`
[02:22] <javiolo> like 1.zip 2.zip and 3.zip
[02:22] <tristanmike> yggdrasil: i think k3b will burn a cue file
[02:22] <d33t> VegaObscura, i don't think you can write to ntfs, but you can read from it
[02:22] <d33t> unless they bettered the driver
[02:22] <Powerbook`> What is better for a begginer: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[02:22] <linuxn00b2006> i installed Wine from the add/remove programs but its not available anywhere so i can run it
[02:23] <club-b42> gentoo)
[02:23] <jrib> javiolo: try just unzipping the first one (that's how rar works)
[02:23] <GlassCasket> PowerBook`: It's al about preference.
[02:23] <d33t> yggdrasil - you trying to burn a VCD?
[02:23] <tristanmike> VegaObscura: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:23] <javiolo> jrib that doesnt seems to work, it only extracts the first zip not the whole file
[02:23] <fastt> Powerbook`, they're both about the same... i recommend gnome so go with ubuntu dapper
[02:23] <Twish`> what to do if pppoe conf didnt found access concentration (i have internal adsl modem AcessRunner)
[02:23] <VegaObscura> YES THANK YOU!!!!!
[02:23] <yggdrasil> d33t i guesse thats what it is.
[02:23] <VegaObscura> thats what ive been looking for =)
[02:23] <mehdi> I cant connect to intenet Help Me!!!
[02:23] <tristanmike> yggdrasil: it has the option for cue file, but I don't have one handy to test
[02:24] <VegaObscura> you uh... are on the internet <<;
[02:24] <d33t> heh, you should know what you're burning. not all bin/cue files are VCD
[02:24] <yggdrasil> d33t im trying to not burn it if theres any way.
[02:24] <Twish`> mehdi me too ;(
[02:24] <yggdrasil> d33t .
[02:24] <d33t> if it's a VCD, you can't just mount it
[02:24] <d33t> it's not a normal filesystem
[02:24] <mehdi> !after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:24] <mehdi> after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[02:24] <yggdrasil> d33t. im thinking of rebooting into windows :( .. im sorry everyone. please forgive me.
[02:24] <d33t> heh, that's ok. BTW< check out vcdgear if you do
[02:25] <tristanmike> yggdrasil: what's the problem ?
[02:25] <jrib> javiolo: my other guess would be to list them, but you've probably tried that
[02:25] <dwhsix> I have a dvd of video that I have rights to... is there any tool in ubuntu I can use to extract clips from it and write to a new dvd?
[02:25] <d33t> it'll turn bin/cue into .mpg
[02:25] <d33t> for VCDs
[02:25] <GlassCasket> yggdrasil: Enjoy all the nasty stuff out there .;)
[02:25] <d33t> they have a linux port too
[02:25] <yggdrasil> d33t ? for linux ?
[02:25] <d33t> http://www.vcdgear.com/download.html
[02:25] <Crescendo> Okay, removed the second sound card for my better judgement of NOT needing it.  Now I have two audio devices when adjusting volume... what is the difference between ALSA and OSS mixers?
[02:25] <javiolo> jrib list them ?
[02:25] <fastt> anyone know which repositary i can find libsvg-cairo (>= 0.1.6) ?
[02:25] <yggdrasil> tristanmike i just got . a bin/cue vdr file. that um. i dont wanna burn i jsut wanna extract the file and have it on my storeage
[02:25] <javiolo> !libsvg-cairo
[02:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about libsvg-cairo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:26] <prophet> whats lime wire in linux
[02:26] <tristanmike> yggdrasil: ahh, I see
[02:26] <yggdrasil> d33t im tring the website. i refuse to go back to w32
[02:26] <jrib> javiolo: like 'unzip file1.zip file2.zip ...', by the way the split rar only works when I use the command line and use the first one
[02:26] <d33t> heh, you will need to compile that though......
[02:26] <yggdrasil> just for the record k3b wont do it
[02:26] <d33t> but it works really well
[02:26] <yggdrasil> hmm ok not bigie
[02:26] <javiolo> jrib ok
[02:26] <tristanmike> javiolo: that sounds like an xgl package
[02:27] <fastt> it si
[02:27] <fastt> is
[02:27] <fastt> i'm trying to install compiz
[02:27] <khaled> do i need to confidure a firewall on my Ubuntu ???
[02:27] <jrib> !firewall
[02:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[02:27] <javiolo> tristanmike dont know whats for, someone asked for it
[02:27] <mehdi> My error:(111 Connection refused)
[02:27] <tristanmike> javiolo: I see that now, sorry
[02:27] <mehdi> after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.
[02:27] <fastt> apparently  libsvg-cairo (>= 0.1.6) is a dependancy and i've got 0.1.5 installed at the moment
[02:27] <tristanmike> fastt: so you just need the repo line ?
[02:27] <javiolo> !firestarter > khaled
[02:27] <d33t> anyone have experience using ices (or anything else)? i want to stream from the sound device...... mpd was kinda goofy
[02:28] <ion_bidon> hello, anyone knows how I can enable the use of X applications from a console as root ?
[02:28] <dwhsix> !dvd
[02:28] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:28] <fastt> tristanmike, yeah i've got the ones on the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[02:28] <khaled> I am freshman in the linux world, so can u give me a link to a tutorial on how to configure the firewall?
[02:28] <a2xm> GlassCasket: I got this:
[02:28] <a2xm> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[02:28] <a2xm> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:28] <yggdrasil> d33t ill compile it before il ever give in.!!! pirates of the carribean deserves no better.
[02:28] <yggdrasil> uh or better
[02:28] <ion_bidon> I've got Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server when I try to run a X application as root
[02:28] <d33t> hehe, nice download
[02:29] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Is the drive mounted?
[02:29] <Powerbook`> why do people like gnome better? Kde seems easier for a begginer (me) :@
[02:29] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon : You mean start the X app as root from a terminal emulator started as a normal user ?
[02:29] <jrib> Powerbook`: just personal preference
[02:29] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: exactly
[02:29] <khaled> i am the most begginer one in this room and i like gnome better
[02:29] <a2xm> GlassCasket: grub-install [mounted partition]  ?
[02:29] <Powerbook`> jrib: is there any advantage of gnome?
[02:29] <d33t> yggdrasil, i used to use that in windows all the time..... works well. the linux one i've used once, worked well there too. I haven't downlaoded a movie in a whle though....
[02:29] <Powerbook`> why khaled?
[02:29] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Do `mount` and paste the output at pastebin.com
[02:30] <khaled> I think it is more neat
[02:30] <fastt> Powerbook`, try them both and see what you like best. I don't think you will find that either of them bite too hard. Don't live in fear of being a beginner - k/ubuntu is your friend :-)
[02:30] <tristanmike> fastt: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[02:30] <d33t> Powerbook`, it's just a preference. kde is very much like windows, gnome is a little different but neither is better or worse
[02:30] <khaled> and less than windows, and this is advan for me :)
[02:30] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: any idea I could try ?
[02:30] <d33t> i like openbox myself
[02:30] <fastt> tristanmike, did that...
[02:30] <mehdi> I cant connect to intenet Help Me!!!
[02:30] <a2xm> GlassCasket: my /dev/hda5 mounted on /mnt/hda5
[02:30] <pab1> hello all, how can I tell if I have firefox 32bit or 64 bit installed
[02:30] <d33t> but gnome works so well
[02:30] <jrib> Powerbook`: not really, just a different environment, each has its pros and cons.  And remember you can run gnome apps in kde and kde apps in gnome
[02:30] <tristanmike> fastt: you should ask in #ubuntu-xgl, that's where the gurus reside
[02:30] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: gksudo ?
[02:31] <javiolo> jrib unzip 1.zip 2.zip 3.zip it says archive 1.zip caution filename 2.zip 3.zip not matched
[02:31] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: gksudo <command>
[02:31] <fastt> tristanmike, ok
[02:31] <Powerbook`> i think ill use kubuntu - it seems better for me :@
[02:31] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: does the same thing as sudo ...
[02:31] <fastt> Powerbook`, good luck
[02:31] <jrib> javiolo: and when you just did unzip 1.zip, it didn't work?
[02:31] <Powerbook`> Thank you :)
[02:31] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: Have you tried it ?
[02:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> can i use synaptic to download and install universe files???
[02:31] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: yes
[02:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> can i use synaptic to download and install universe files???
[02:31] <fastt> Are you installing onto a Powerbook` btw?
[02:31] <GlassCasket> a2xm: Try `grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab`
[02:32] <Powerbook`> no fastt lol
[02:32] <Powerbook`> installing on a windows :@
[02:32] <Powerbook`> well
[02:32] <Powerbook`> x86
[02:32] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: It's supposed to work :-/ You do have X running right ?
[02:32] <fastt> :-)
[02:32] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: yes :)
[02:32] <mehdi> !firefox
[02:32] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:32] <fastt> Powerbook`, glad you corrected yourself.... you're certainly not installing ubuntu on a windows!!
[02:33] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: I'm really under the impression that it should work. Can you please try gksudo again?
[02:33] <mehdi> !opera
[02:33] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[02:33] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Flannel: can i use synaptic to download and install universe files??? not to use ftp!!!???
[02:33] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: You haven't done an expert install by any chance right (i.e. sudo works doesn't it? )?
[02:33] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: I did and it does not work, because I have in the sudoers file the name of the application
[02:33] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: if I erase the app from the sudoers I suppose it works
[02:34] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: but it will ask me for a password each time
[02:34] <khaled> how can i burn and iso image on cd??
[02:34] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: You shouldn't be touching /etc/sudoers. If you want to have sudo privilleges, you want to add yourself to the 'admin' group in /etc/group ...
[02:34] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: I only want sudo privileges on some apps only
[02:34] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: And in any case, the name of the app makes no difference....
[02:34] <khaled> how can i burn iso images on cd??
[02:35] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: ok, well thanks Ill retry a bit
[02:35] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: AFAIK that cannot be done...i.e. forbid certain apps from being used with gksudo ...
[02:35] <prophet> whats the command to get the latest repositories
[02:35] <Flannel> cyber_brain_mfkg: yes, of course.  You need to add it to your repositories, then use normal apt-get frontends
[02:35] <riddlebox> j #python
[02:35] <ad> !firestarter > ad
[02:36] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: You probably have a problem with your sudo configuration... does 'sudo test' work ?
[02:36] <riddlebox> oops
[02:36] <cge> Is there some way to get X to print out font loading debugging information in its log?
[02:36] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: no there is no problem, but I figure out a solution that works : xhost + local:root
[02:36] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: this allows my app to run as root even if in the sudoers file
[02:37] <pab1> any one here using the sound blaster audigy??
[02:37] <detien> I've been following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperNetworkManager and this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but still can't get wpa to work
[02:37] <neutrinomass> ion_bidon: Sorry, I can't really help with sudo+ certain applications. Never heard of that been done before ...
[02:37] <detien> Do I need to have my ssid shown?
[02:38] <ion_bidon> neutrinomass: o ok no problem, thanks for your support :)
[02:38] <dibblego> why after sudo apt-get remove apache2, apache is still running, even after a reboot?
[02:38] <bigmarcus> Anyone here use dynDNS?
[02:38] <ad> !ubotu > ad
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about > ad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:39] <nickers> any idea when i can apt-get update?
[02:39] <nickers> i am dying
[02:39] <nickers> i need thoggen
[02:39] <Crescendo> What is a good BitTorrent client for Ubuntu?
[02:39] <a2xm> GlassCasket:
[02:39] <a2xm> sudo grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[02:39] <a2xm> bash: /etc/mtab: Permission denied
[02:39] <three> cres: i like ktorrent
[02:39] <javiolo> crescendo I use transmission
[02:39] <nickers> azureus or ctorrent
[02:40] <neutrinomass> a2xm: Yes.... that's normal. Try sudo -i and then give the grep command ...
[02:40] <Flannel> nickers: why can't you now?
[02:40] <dredhammer> hello
[02:40] <nickers> i have been unable all day to apt-get update...i know the servers were offline
[02:40] <dredhammer> so you think there'll be good drivers for linux with this ATI/AMD buy?
[02:40] <Crescendo> Ktorrent is giving me "too many files open" when opening a torrent with several thousand files...  and I didn't like it.
[02:40] <Flannel> nickers: just change your mirror
[02:40] <nickers> what are you using?
[02:40] <Crescendo> Azureus seems too bulky, and more for a windows application.
[02:41] <javiolo> crescendo azureus not just for win
[02:41] <a2xm> GlassCasket:
[02:41] <a2xm> sudo grep -i -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[02:41] <a2xm> bash: /etc/mtab: Permission denied
[02:41] <snoops> dredhammer we can hope.. I doubt anything would happen for at least another year
[02:41] <dredhammer> that long?
[02:41] <Crescendo> I didn't say it was.
[02:41] <bigmarcus> Anyone here use dynDNS?
[02:41] <Crescendo> It just seems more suitable for a Windows place.
[02:41] <nickers> Flannel: what are you using?
[02:41] <nickers> ctorrent is pretty good if you dont mind console ncurses...combine it with screen and you are all set
[02:42] <javiolo> bigmarcus I used a few times
[02:42] <nickers> azureus is a java application, not a windows application
[02:42] <bigmarcus> javiolo: say I registered for a life time service with a domain say bompper.com I know longer use bompper.com and I want to add my new domain digitizemem.com how would i update it to my new domain
[02:42] <Crescendo> I didn't say it was a Windows application only.
[02:42] <Crescendo> I....
[02:42] <Crescendo> FASDFASFASDF
[02:42] <dredhammer> and how can adobe have flash 9 out with no linux update?
[02:42] <Crescendo> Ctorrent, you say?
[02:42] <Flannel> nickers: archive.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <Crescendo> And someone else said transmission.
[02:43] <nickers> dredhammer: no 9 coming
[02:43] <nickers> transmission is macosx
[02:43] <prophet> how do you run rpm files
[02:43] <dredhammer> what kinda crap is that?
[02:43] <Crescendo> Couldn't find package transmission
[02:43] <javiolo> bigmarcus I used the free service to keep track of one server via internet, but check the config
[02:43] <dredhammer> myspace has already migrated to version 9
[02:43] <nickers> prophet: rpm -ivh but in ubuntu you will need to use alien to convert
[02:43] <bigmarcus> ya i check cant figure it out ofr the life of me
[02:43] <prophet> yeah i read thanks man
[02:43] <nickers> dredhammer: flash 9 runs in crossover
[02:43] <three> eff flash has anyone checked it GNash is up and running
[02:44] <three> if gnash*
[02:44] <dredhammer> what is crossover?
[02:44] <javiolo> three I tried to install gnash on a linux ppc and I had many problems
[02:44] <dredhammer> is it like wine?
[02:44] <nickers> dredhammer: codeweavers.com
[02:44] <nickers> yes
[02:44] <dredhammer> or vmware?
[02:44] <pab1> can some1 tell me what alsa cvs is?  is it different than standard alsa?
[02:45] <three> javiolo: what kinda problems are they still having?
[02:45] <nickers> pab1: cvs is a system used for developers
[02:45] <dredhammer> I'm trying to lead a linux pure life, i knew i'd have to say goodbye to wmv/wma drm but now about 15% of the web is denied me
[02:45] <nickers> pab1: cvs is for syncing files while developers write code
[02:45] <javiolo> three dont know the installation didnt worked, maybe it was something with auto-apt
[02:45] <nickers> pab1: nothing related to alsa
[02:45] <AngryParsley> dredhammer: I just got a mac
[02:45] <a2xm> GlassCasket: why not just reisntall the whole ubuntu anyway?
[02:46] <AngryParsley> because making *NIX user-friendly was easier that making windows not suck
[02:46] <nickers> dredhammer: such is life, just read that the flash linux developer is basically throwing in the hate crying like a baby
[02:46] <pab1> nickers:  hrrrm does this make any sense then?   "Support for capture is in alsa cvs. You should try it."
[02:46] <nickers> pab1: yes makes perfect sense
[02:46] <snoops> dredhammer yeah flash support sucks.. you could use wine with a combination of firefox for windows and flash 9 for it
[02:46] <three> javiolo: ahh, well if I cant apt it I'm not that interested
[02:46] <nickers> pab1: the developer release has support for that function
[02:46] <pab1> nickers:  ahhh.  so i think ill need that :)    where should i start?
[02:46] <dredhammer> this is crap
[02:46] <AngryParsley> wait, what's going on with flash? I thought a linux version existed
[02:47] <dredhammer> since when has the internet become os specific?
[02:47] <nickers> pab1: ever compiled code? go look into a cvs howto...kind of daunting
[02:47] <javiolo> three no, I downloaded the code, tried to configured but it needed some libs, and then I run auto-apt run ./configure and it installed some things...
[02:47] <nickers> flash for linux is there
[02:47] <nickers> problem is that it is version 7
[02:47] <nickers> they skipped 8 to go to 9
[02:47] <AngryParsley> dredhammer: since those pages in 1998 saying "best viewed with netscape navigator in 800x600"
[02:47] <nickers> problem is adobe cant get 9 out the door
[02:47] <AngryParsley> nickers: oh
[02:47] <nickers> blaming it on bad "APIs"
[02:47] <nickers> hogwash
[02:47] <pab1> nickers:  sigh.  alrighty.  thx for info tho
[02:47] <AngryParsley> that's lame
[02:47] <dredhammer> it wasn't this bad before
[02:47] <Iolo> can someone explain ubuntu for amd64 vs regular? I Have amd64 but have very little linux experience, which version should I use?
[02:47] <nickers> pab1: look for alsa cvs deb in google
[02:47] <three> javiolo: ahh ok <slaps self in forehead>
[02:48] <AngryParsley> dredhammer: I've never had a problem viewing any page besides MSDN in safari
[02:48] <dredhammer> i had no use for real player plugins now i'm running into messages about flash needs to upgrade most of the time
[02:48] <AngryParsley> (msdn requries an activex control to download some stuff)
[02:48] <nickers> dredhammer: complain to adobe, not linux
[02:48] <snoops> Iolo I recommend the i386 version personally.. less issues with things like flash, wine, etc
[02:48] <nickers> dredhammer: i hate it too
[02:48] <dredhammer> of course there is no upgrade available
[02:48] <nickers> okay out of here thanks guys
[02:49] <javiolo> three I heard it works, I didnt had much time to play with the libs...
[02:49] <AngryParsley> snoops: yeah, the compatibility outweighs the slight speed increase
[02:49] <AngryParsley> I use i386 on my athlon 64 box
[02:49] <Iolo> ok thanks, I'll get i386 then
[02:49] <snoops> I used the amd64 version.. then found out about all the issues with software compatibility and changed to i386
[02:49] <three> javiolo: I dont mess with software on my ubutnu (main) system untill I'm sure its gonna work
[02:50] <dredhammer> well they don't seem to have a complain email address
[02:50] <metalhedd> I'm trying to set up my tv-out on my nvidia card, it keeps limiting my monitor res to 1024x768 and treating the tv kinda like an extension to the current desktop, mouse goes off the right hand side and it shows up on the TV.  are there other ways to configure it that won't limit me to 1024x768?
[02:50] <a2xm> GlassCasket: thanks for now.. i got to go now...
[02:50] <javiolo> three hehe thats what I said my first installation hehe
[02:50] <snoops> dredhammer if you were a software company that didn't much care about user feedback, would you bother with a complain email address?
[02:50] <GaiaX11> How do I play .mov in ubuntu?
[02:51] <metalhedd> GaiaX11: mplaye will play them
[02:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Flannel: thanx a lot man!!!Now i can download universe data with synaptic!!! :D
[02:51] <dredhammer> they are just evil , i don't care if theres no adobe flash creator in linux but let us at least be able to use the damn thing
[02:51] <three> javiolo: this is my umpteen linux install, but its on my laptop and i have no backups of somw of this stuff so I'm VERY careful, for now
[02:52] <prophet> anyone having an issue with limewire launching
[02:52] <Powerbook`> Erm wow
[02:52] <AngryParsley> dredhammer: adobe isn't obligated to provide a linux version of flash, in fact I'm surprised they even released any version of flash player for linux
[02:52] <Eftarjin> hi
[02:52] <flodine> Hi
[02:52] <Powerbook`> i downloaded kubuntu but now i like ubuntu better :s
[02:53] <three> lol
[02:53] <Powerbook`> kubuntu has wierd file names
[02:53] <pikciurna> i have a problem while trying to make kernel: kernel source doesn`t recognize that ubuntu has gtk libraries installed, any ideas?
[02:53] <Powerbook`> but i like the windows etc better :@
[02:53] <crimsun> pikciurna: do you have libgtk2.0-dev or libgtk1.2-dev installed?
[02:53] <pikciurna> yes
[02:53] <jbower> how could i have the system run this as the system and not the user at logon
[02:53] <jbower> sudo killall NetworkManager
[02:53] <jbower> sudo NetworkManager
[02:53] <prophet> how do can i uninstall an application i installed?
[02:53] <prophet> its not listed in add/remove
[02:53] <jbower> need time to plug in wifi card
[02:54] <Eftarjin> i installed proftpd, added virtual users (in a text file), but i can connect with these users. i've this in the syslog : "RequireValidShell"
[02:54] <nalioth> !java > Crescendo
[02:54] <three> prohet: sudo apt-get remove
[02:54] <Powerbook`> now i see why people like ubuntu better then kubuntu :@
[02:54] <AngryParsley> pikciurna: do you care that much if you have a GUI for configuring the source or not? you could always do make menuconfig
[02:54] <dredhammer> soooo
[02:54] <yggdrasi1> d33t dont even need to compile it .. untarred it and it was green ... executable.. binary i guese seems to be cranking ;) thanks
[02:54] <Eftarjin> bad paste, this in the syslog : PAM(eftarjin): User not known to the underlying authentication module.
[02:54] <prophet> remove ..... filename
[02:54] <three> yeah
[02:54] <dredhammer> what about reaching a target audience?
[02:55] <prophet> says could not find the package
[02:55] <pikciurna> AngryParsley i care, because i am just starting to use ubuntu
[02:55] <AngryParsley> pikciurna: well if you have gtk installed and make xconfig isn't working, I don't know what the problem is
[02:55] <dredhammer> everybody is going ape over the flash video thing
[02:55] <detectiveinspekt> when I try to mount a windows NTFS in disk manager I can't browse it without root.
[02:55] <dredhammer> if they upgrade to version 8 and 9
[02:56] <three> prophet: i have no clue, maybe one of the leeter people here can help or try ubuntuforums.org
[02:56] <dredhammer> how are linux users supposed to view it?
[02:56] <benkong2> I have a registered nick for freenode. Why is my ubuntu always #ubuntu-unregged?
[02:57] <pikciurna> AngryParsley i dont really know if its installed, i just installed full coppy of ubuntu live cd
[02:58] <Crescendo> !seveas
[02:58] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:58] <prophet> what does apt stand for
[02:58] <polpak> prophet: aptitude afaik
[02:58] <cge> prophet: apt is the package manager. It doesn't stand for aptitude.
[02:59] <prophet> i understand what you do with apt command but can someone tell me some more about it
[02:59] <Zooliegsm> hello
[02:59] <Zooliegsm> anyone knows where to download this theme?: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33553
[02:59] <pablo_> hi, which video card do you recommend me to use with ubuntu?
[02:59] <cge> prophet: There is no apt command. There is apt-get. What do you want to know about it?
[02:59] <loquitus_of_borg> Can anybody recommend an extension to add to Thunderbird to deal with spam? I realize there is anti-spam functionality built in, but it is not doing enough as I am still getting flooded with spam.
[02:59] <cge> pablo_: Depends on your philisophical and political viewpoints on the world and freedom.
[03:00] <polpak> Zooliegsm: sudo apt-get install gnome-art  and go to system->preferences->theme
[03:00] <DanglyBits> is it possible to mix and match edgy and dapper packages?
[03:00] <three> pablo: i personally think nVidia has much better drivers for linux
[03:00] <pablo_> cge: what do you mean, i want something to work good with rhe free software
[03:00] <Zooliegsm> polpak thx i give a try
[03:00] <pablo_> three, better than who? ati or all the rest?
[03:01] <prophet> why does this happenReading package lists... Done
[03:01] <prophet> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:01] <prophet> E: Couldn't find package emule
[03:01] <Mikelo> amule
[03:01] <DanglyBits> is it possible to mix and match edgy and dapper packages?
[03:01] <Mikelo> try amule
[03:01] <darkyoshi372> what's the keyboard shortcut to force-quit?
[03:01] <prophet> heh
[03:01] <cge> pablo_: If you don't mind using closed source drivers, nvidia is definitely the best. If you want an open source driver, a slightly out of date ATI is best (9200 is the maximum, I think). If you want open source and open hardware documentation, then I believe Matrox has cards that satisfy that.
[03:02] <cge> prophet: Try apt-cache search emule.
[03:02] <three> pablo: better that everyone, and any nVidia card by any vendor.  I had an ATi card before and was very upset
[03:02] <Mikelo> darkyoshi372, alt-F4?
[03:02] <shrike_00> I recently upgraded to dapper adn now gdm crashes.  It gives me an error something like  "input device driver kbd not found" and the same for mouse and then crashes because it cant load keyboard
[03:02] <darkyoshi372> I mean to force-quit
[03:03] <darkyoshi372> if it's not responding
[03:03] <cge> three: Yes but now you have fallen into the EVIL of using closed source drivers. RMS would not be pleased.
[03:03] <Mikelo> cge, emule?
[03:03] <ignatios> Is anyone really concerned with pleasing RMS?
[03:03] <pablo_> lol
[03:03] <pablo_> cge: what do you use?
[03:03] <Mikelo> prophet: Try apt-cache search amule
[03:03] <iiiears> shrike - check your xorg.conf it sounds incomeplete
[03:04] <rabbitear> how do I allow another host (the laptop) to run stuff from the (desktop) .. I forgot if its the laptop or the desktop that has to have port 6000 open...
[03:04] <three> cge: rms wasnt trying to play UT2k4 at 1024x768 with some badass settings
[03:04] <iiiears> shrike - running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should fix it.
[03:04] <cge> three: Yes. That is the temptation that you fell for. But seriously, there are reasons you might want open source drivers - in laptops it tends to help considerably.
[03:05] <cge> pablo_: I have an ATI, but it is a laptop. If you play games, ATI tends to be rather bad.
[03:05] <shrike_00> iiiears: what would i look for  I ran dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg and it still does same thing  should the line drivers in xorg.conf that lists "kbd and "mouse" list somethign else
[03:05] <three> cge: dont get me wrong, im in the free software camp, but i also like to use my system like everyone else
[03:05] <BarryAllen> anyone there is using radeon with fglrx driver?
[03:06] <pablo_> cge: i dont play games, but i want something to work nice
[03:06] <iiiears> cge - what command can i use to see more about my pcmcia wifi card? lspci tells me it is Texas Instruments. - need the chip name/type
[03:06] <cge> pablo_: If you aren't in the church of GNU, you don't have a laptop, and you don't have a strange system (it used to be 64-bit caused problems), you probably want Nvidia.
[03:06] <three> pablo: do you think you'll use XGL ever
[03:06] <khaled> is there a telnet in Ubuntu ???
[03:06] <cge> iiiears: Have you tried lspci -v?
[03:06] <Hexidigital> pablo_: nvidia plays very nicely with linux
[03:06] <cge> khaled: telnet?
[03:07] <cge> khaled: Err, yes. It's telnet.
[03:07] <Hexidigital> khaled: openssh is more secure
[03:07] <iiiears> shrike - your mouse and keyboard settings are there. - other types of input devices also
[03:07] <cge> Hexidigital: Not if you need telnet.
[03:07] <iiiears> cge - erm - (weak grin) no... (begins to type furiously at the CLI
[03:08] <shrike_00> iiiears: is it possible to jump back to breezy?  I can figure this out another day but i need the gui for the next week or so
[03:08] <khaled> Hexidigital: Where can i find openssh?
[03:08] <Eclipse_GSX> so i dont get how to use a wirless USB network drive....
[03:08] <Eclipse_GSX> ir doesnt work
[03:08] <Hexidigital> khaled: in aptitude... apt-get install openssh (on client) openssh-server (on host)
[03:09] <javiolo> !ssh > khaled
[03:09] <cge> khaled: What did you want to use telnet for?
[03:09] <khaled> Hexidigital: thanx
[03:09] <Hexidigital> khaled: np
[03:09] <iiiears> shrike - not really enough info so i'lll have to guess.. no i don't think you can
[03:09] <Ares> Hello, how do I know which kernel image I currently have? [The latest update from Ubuntu?] 
[03:09] <Hexidigital> !version > Ares
[03:10] <cge> shrike_00: No, you can't. Sometimes I wish there was a way to go edgy->dapper.
[03:10] <Hexidigital> Ares: read your private message from ubotu
[03:10] <shrike_00> iiiears: ugh oh well i guess its google time then
[03:10] <iiiears> shrike - lets see if we can't get your machine working with dapper. - are you willing?
[03:10] <crimsun> Ares: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii
[03:10] <shrike_00> iiiears: sure
[03:10] <khaled> Hexidigital: Couldn't find package??
[03:10] <Hexidigital> khaled: one sec
[03:10] <iiiears> shrike - what happens when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:11] <Eclipse_GSX> anyonw know how to use a USB wireless adapter?
[03:11] <shrike_00> iiiears: it runs like it normally does on isntall.  Even autodetects every thing.  No errors
[03:11] <iiiears> shrike - do you get a dwsktop interface or the boring CLI?
[03:11] <khaled> Hexidigital: I tried apt-get install ssh and it's working, is it the same?
[03:11] <javiolo> is there any app like the win alcohol 120% to mount files as drives ?
[03:11] <Hexidigital> khaled: forget about the client install.. it is preinstalled (just run ssh in terminal) apt-get install openssh-server
[03:11] <Zooliegsm> polpak i cant find that theme with this app
[03:12] <Hexidigital> khaled: afaik, yes
[03:12] <matko> hi all. new to irc
[03:12] <Hexidigital> matko: welcome :)
[03:12] <javiolo> is there any app like the win alcohol 120% to mount files as drives ?
[03:12] <shrike_00> iiiears: basically when the machine starts it acts like it is going to load but sits at blank screen then screen flashes like its retrying and does that 3 times adn then kicks me to cli
[03:12] <iiiears> shrike - the error you described is almost certainly caused by the xorg.conf not listing a mouse and keyboard.
[03:13] <Hexidigital> !iso
[03:13] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:13] <matko> what is (Reqiured keyword) ?
[03:13] <iiiears> shrike - run "sudo lspci" compare what you see there with what is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <Hexidigital> javiolo: did you get that?
[03:13] <javiolo> yes
[03:13] <Ares> Damn, someone wish me luck on this =O
[03:14] <shrike_00> iiiears: one sec
[03:14] <javiolo> but I doesnt do what I want...
[03:14] <javiolo> GUI app
[03:14] <Powerbook`> When installing ubuntu, shoudl I let it do everything default?
[03:14] <profoX`> when I use the shift key 5 times in a row I get this sticky key warning ! (plaktoetsen for the dutch people in here) .. how do i disable this warning? it interferes my game :P (and it reminds me of wintendo)
[03:14] <Powerbook`> or change something?
[03:14] <ConfuZed> Hello is there a way to download ie6 in WineTools Without accsess to download.microsoft.com (Its blocked by my host :( )
[03:15] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: unless you need a special configuration, you should be okay
[03:15] <iiiears> shrike - I need to apologize to you. - not able to help for a few mins. - my wife just put dinner on the table. - i am sorry, be back in 30 minutes. - sigh.
[03:15] <Powerbook`> ok thanks
[03:15] <javiolo> !iso > javiolo
[03:15] <Flannel> ConfuZed: you try the standalone version?  http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone
[03:15] <ConfuZed> Bout to try.
[03:15] <Hexidigital> javiolo: /msg ubotu {query} works too
[03:16] <javiolo> hexidigital ok knew thay I prefer this way :)
[03:16] <Powerbook`> 1 more question
[03:16] <Powerbook`> If I have fedora on it now
[03:16] <Powerbook`> should I erase it
[03:16] <javiolo> hexidigital any app like alcohol 120%
[03:16] <Powerbook`> or modify partions
[03:16] <Hexidigital> javiolo: not that i know of... i mount my .iso through CLI... i haven't seen (or heard of) any apps like that
[03:16] <Powerbook`> Erase entire disk; or resize IDE1 master, Partion #1 (hda1) and use freed space?
[03:16] <detien> why would you want to use IE when you have FireFox ?
[03:17] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: do you want to keep Fedora?
[03:17] <javiolo> hexidigital ok
[03:17] <Powerbook`> no
[03:17] <snoops> detien he's a web developer I'm assuming
[03:17] <javiolo> hexidigital thanks!
[03:17] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: you could erase the entire disk then
[03:17] <Hexidigital> javiolo: np :)
[03:17] <Powerbook`> ok
[03:17] <tuliomgui> !video
[03:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:17] <Hexidigital> tuliomgui: what are you looking for?
[03:18] <tuliomgui> does anyone know a good video player??
[03:18] <shrike_00> iiiears: hmm dont see anything about a keyboard listed
[03:18] <tuliomgui> i tried mplayer but it says it is not available for my hardware
[03:18] <Hexidigital> tuliomgui: kaffeine (imo) is pretty good
[03:18] <tuliomgui> let me see
[03:18] <javiolo> if you dont wanna install ie6 ill try browsershots.prg
[03:18] <javiolo> if you dont wanna install ie6 ill try browsershots.org
[03:18] <javiolo> tuliomgui vlc player
[03:18] <ConfuZed> >Flannel What do i do with the Files?
[03:19] <quiet> hi, i'm on the livecd/install cd... is it possible to mount lvm partitions?
[03:19] <dan_desousa> would ubuntu desktop be fine on 192 megs of ram?
[03:19] <tuliomgui> thanks folks!!
[03:19] <tuliomgui> =D
[03:19] <tuliomgui> very good channel for help...
[03:19] <Hexidigital> tuliomgui: :)
[03:19] <quiet> dan_desousa: i would recommend xubuntu (xfce)  but the gnome desktop would work... just might be a little laggy.
[03:20] <dan_desousa> well, it's going to be a dedicated machine for running stepmania
[03:20] <ignatios> lol
[03:20] <javiolo> dan_desousa try fluxbox
[03:20] <quiet> dan_desousa: what is stepmania?
[03:20] <Powerbook`> ubuntu was good for 80 gb hd with 512 mb ram? right?
[03:20] <dan_desousa> quiet: it is a game which simulates the dance dance revolution arcade machine
[03:20] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !kworld
[03:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about kworld - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:20] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: yes
[03:20] <shrike_00> iiiears: hmm dont see anything about a keyboard listed
[03:21] <quiet> dan_desousa: interesting...
[03:21] <Powerbook`> okay thanks
[03:21] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !tv
[03:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about tv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:21] <profoX`> Powerbook`: that will go lightning fast if the cpu is above Ghz :)
[03:21] <dibblego> why does sudo apt-get install mysql-server ask me to insert a cdrom?
[03:21] <profoX`> 1Ghz thatis
[03:21] <crimsun> dibblego: because you have a cdrom deb src active.
[03:21] <quiet> dan_desousa: any relation to Anthony DeSousa?
[03:21] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: is it a Powerbook?
[03:21] <Powerbook`> No
[03:21] <dan_desousa> not at all quiet
[03:21] <dibblego> crimsun, so I do - I overlooked it
[03:21] <Powerbook`> why does everyone ask :S
[03:21] <quiet> ok ;)
[03:21] <Powerbook`> its a HP :@
[03:21] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: i would've been jealous :)
[03:21] <profoX`> dibblego: because the file is on your cdrom as the newest file, if you don't want to use the cd: put a # in front of the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <Powerbook`> Hexidigital I have a powerbook but it doesnt have linux on it :@
[03:22] <Powerbook`> i have 1 windows 1 linux and 2 macs :@
[03:23] <mikechml> linux has managed to invade 3 of my machines in a past month
[03:23] <quiet> anyone: can I(and if so, how?) mount LVM partitions from inside the live cd?
[03:23] <mikechml> :p
[03:23] <Hexidigital> Powerbook`: i can't imagine why anyone would ask if it was a powerbook :)
[03:23] <tuliomgui> mac stuff is very good
[03:23] <tuliomgui> god dawmn
[03:23] <Powerbook`> lol hex :P
[03:23] <ConfuZed> flannel : I got the standalone what should i do with it?
[03:26] <Flannel> ConfuZed: er, no idea?  I just know that it's a IE download
[03:26] <darkyoshi372> .gh
[03:26] <neuro_damage> what fonts pacakge do I install so i have times new roman?
[03:26] <neuro_damage> because right now there aren't very many fonts inside of openoffice
[03:26] <javiolo> hexidigital if sudo mount -o loop dev-cod2.iso /media/cod2/
[03:27] <ax> i'm getting these problems when i try to run rxvt, aterm, that the app cannot find/load a color, white, or black...
[03:27] <javiolo> hexidigital it says the mount point /media/cod2/ doesnt exists
[03:28] <carajean> I have a problem with sound. My sound for my videos is barely audible. But the sound for lets say when someone sends me an instant message is extremly loud. Has anyone a solution to this?
[03:28] <mikechml> javiolo: sudo mkdir /media/cod2
[03:28] <javiolo> oh I though mounting would create the directory... thankss
[03:28] <dandesousa> quiet: mind if I pm you?
[03:29] <iiiears> carajan - Is there a seperate volume control for the application you are using?
[03:29] <quiet> dandesousa: 'spose not..
[03:29] <neuro_damage> anyone?
[03:30] <BarryAllen> anyone using ati driver with xorg 7.0.0 ?
[03:30] <Steph14> how to enable read access to all users on my windows ntfs files?  I can do it as root
[03:31] <mikechml> i am BarryAllen
[03:31] <bubu1uk> Steph14, u might need to chmod that dir
[03:31] <tokenbad> whats the info for installing restricted formats?
[03:31] <BarryAllen> mikechml, the official site (ati) says it works with xort 6.8
[03:31] <BarryAllen> mikechml, can i ignore it, ?
[03:32] <javiolo> !restricted > tokenbad
[03:32] <iiiears> carajean - Can you bring up gconf-editor and see if you -might- have two sound plug-ins for the same type of media?
[03:32] <mikechml> which card do you have?
[03:32] <prophet> can someone tell me the differences between suse,gentoo,redhat,centos
[03:32] <Steph14> bubuluk, which switches to I use with chmod?
[03:32] <mikechml> chmod won't work on it
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>  http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Sources
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> 5 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages [3028kB] 
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> 99% [5 Packages gzip 0]  []                          3139B/s 0s
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>  http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>    gzip  (1)
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> 6 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Sources [1223kB] 
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> 99% [6 Sources gzip 0]                                                3139B/s 0s
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>  http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Sources
[03:32] <BarryAllen> mikechml, 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] 
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>    gzip  (1)
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>  6B 15s (0B/s)
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>  http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz   gzip  (1)
[03:32] <mikechml> !ops
[03:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:32] <javiolo> !paste wanglin-sir
[03:32] <wanglin-sir>  http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz   gzip  (1)
[03:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste wanglin-sir - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:32] <wanglin-sir> ... 
[03:33] <wanglin-sir> W:  http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cn.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)  - stat (2 )
[03:33] <wanglin-sir> W:  apt-get update 
[03:33] <iiiears> poor ubotu
[03:33] <javiolo> !paste > wanglin-sir
[03:33] <Heartsbane> Geezus
[03:33] <iiiears> is there an #ubuntu- chinese channel?
[03:33] <Heartsbane> Thank you whoever
[03:33] <DBO> ubuntu-zn
[03:33] <icaro> what is the channel in spanish????i am new
[03:33] <icaro> :)
[03:33] <mikechml> i'm not sure about that then BarryAllen, mine's not on a laptop
[03:33] <jrib> !zh
[03:33] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:33] <carajean> iiears: i am really new and i dont know exactly what to type to get to where u would like me to go. but here is something interesting,i stopped playing the movie and watched a streamed video from a friend the sound was very nice.  but i went to play the dvd again and i dont have the right plug ins now
[03:33] <DBO> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:34] <iiiears> jrib - thanks
[03:34] <khaled> guys, where can i find the source code of ubuntu?
[03:34] <bubu1uk> steph14: or just edit /etc/fstab
[03:34] <cge> khaled: What exactly do you want?
[03:35] <cge> khaled: The source to a particular package?
[03:35] <javiolo> is it safe to mount a cd image on /media/cdrom/ ??
[03:35] <khaled> cge: I want to look to the process management
[03:35] <Heartsbane> Alright guys anyone got time to give me a hand, I have a HP LaserJet 4 hooked up with a JetDirect Print Server hooked up to our Ubuntu Workstation but it wants to print everything in A4, not letter format no matter what I set it too
[03:35] <cge> javiolo: Somewhat, but it is better to just make another directory.
[03:36] <cge> khaled: You mean in the kernel?
[03:36] <Crescendo> I think I might have two versions of JRE installed, as a web application detects version 1.5.x, but Azureus is slightly buggy if it runs at all, and "java --version" returns 1.4.2.  How would I fix this?  I think I remember on Fedora changing my default java installation, would this be applicable on Ubuntu?  Any further suggestions?
[03:36] <khaled> cge: yes
[03:36] <Steph14> So i have to edit /etc/fstab?
[03:36] <javiolo> cge Ive done that way but cedega doesnt get the imagefile
[03:36] <cge> javiolo: Oh. Yes, it is safe to do so.
[03:37] <javiolo> cge to umount ?
[03:37] <iiiears> Crescendo sudo dpkg-reconfigure "the java package you installed" -maybe???
[03:37] <cge> khaled: The kernel source packages are something like linux-source-2.6.17 (or 15 if you are still running dapper).
[03:37] <bubu1uk> steph14: more likely yes. i think i did it this way when i needed it
[03:37] <BarryAllen> mikechml, ill try, tks dude
[03:38] <cge> javiolo: To mount the image there.
[03:38] <khaled> cge: yes i am still running dapper, this means i have to downloads it?
[03:38] <cge> khaled: No, it is linux-source-2.6.15 in that case.
[03:38] <Heartsbane> Anyone have any clue why I when I change from A4 to Letter format on my printer setup it still sends everything to the printer in A4
[03:38] <bubu1uk> steph14: been a while when i used dual boot.
[03:38] <quiet> how can i mount an LVM partition from a different OS?
[03:38] <javiolo> cge I mean how do I umount a image file
[03:39] <mikechml> Steph14: change the umask from 007 to 000
[03:39] <mikechml> in /etc/fstab
[03:39] <prophet> what kind of information does fstab store? or used for
[03:39] <digitalhav0c> sup people anyone ever heard of the asoka plug link?
[03:39] <cge> javiolo: With umount /path/to/place/where/mounted
[03:39] <tritium> Heartsbane: only in OpenOffice?
[03:39] <javiolo> cge ok thanks
[03:39] <Heartsbane> tritium: No in every application, even a test print
[03:39] <khaled> cge: which folder?
[03:40] <cge> prophet: It stores information on which device is mounted where.
[03:40] <Crescendo>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure sun-java5-jre    - did absolutely nothing, from what I saw.
[03:40] <Powerbook`> Erm
[03:40] <bubu1uk> prophet: file system tab fstab
[03:40] <cge> khaled: Oh. It installs a tarball in /usr/src. You have to unpack it yourself.
[03:40] <Crescendo> It must have ran, with no output.
[03:40] <Powerbook`> when I go to add and remove applications
[03:40] <Powerbook`> why does it say it isnt avaliable in any software channel?
[03:40] <Powerbook`> what does that mena
[03:40] <tritium> Heartsbane: hmm, no, that's not normal
[03:40] <Powerbook`> mean*
[03:40] <digitalhav0c> http://www0.shopping.com/xPO-SMC_Asoka_PlugLink_Ethernet_Wall_Module_Bridge_EN_Fast_EN_HomePlug_1_0
[03:40] <prophet> k
[03:40] <digitalhav0c> trying to figure out how to use it in linux?
[03:40] <garrett_mass> Good evening #ubuntu
[03:40] <digitalhav0c> or to get it work
[03:40] <Powerbook`> What does "'_' is not avliable in any software channel" from add/remove applications mean?
[03:41] <Heartsbane> tritium: I know I have been sitting here @ work trying to figure out why?
[03:41] <digitalhav0c> good evening garrett_mass
[03:41] <khaled> cge: usr/src is empty
[03:41] <garrett_mass> Need some help with dual monitors and an ATI card, if anyone is willing.
[03:41] <cge> khaled: And you installed linux-source-2.6.15?
[03:41] <garrett_mass> Specifically, trying to setup dual monitors in my xorg.conf file. I'm having troubles, oh noes!
[03:41] <khaled> cge
[03:41] <Powerbook`> What does "'_' is not avliable in any software channel" from add/remove applications mean?
[03:41] <Heartsbane> tritium: guess I will make a forum post and tell everyone tomorrow that it still isn't working
[03:41] <_nano_> Hello, has anyone tried to install spellbound extension on firefox in dapper?
[03:41] <tritium> khaled: dpkg -L linux-source-2.6.15 should reveal what files it came with.  Only a .tar.gz, if I recall correctly
[03:41] <khaled> cge: no, how can i install it/
[03:42] <khaled> ok thanx
[03:42] <tritium> khaled: what are you trying to do?
[03:42] <cge> khaled: With apt-get
[03:42] <carajean> is there a better dvd player than what comes with ubuntu
[03:42] <tritium> Heartsbane: you've saved the printer settings you prefer?
[03:42] <iiiears> Powerbook - "referred to by another package but that package seems unavailable"? - i might add another repository. "universe communitty supported"
[03:42] <cge> tritium: Examine the kernel source :)
[03:42] <tritium> !dvd > carajean
[03:42] <Powerbook`> iiiears how do i do that?
[03:42] <tritium> cge: that's all he wants to do?  Okay, just checking....
[03:42] <prophet> what does piping do
[03:42] <cge> khaled: Be sure not to get eaten by a grue when examining the source :)
[03:43] <khaled> tritium: i just want to look at some source files of the kernel
[03:43] <Heartsbane> tritium: ya like 10 times, and I have logged into the CLI to verify they were written
[03:43] <iiiears> !repos
[03:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:43] <tritium> prophet: "pipes" the output of one program into the input of another
[03:43] <tritium> khaled: okay
[03:43] <prophet> what would you use that for thats abstract can u give me an example
[03:43] <tritium> Heartsbane: on dapper
[03:43] <tritium> ?
[03:43] <Heartsbane> tritium: its like its pulling from another location, the only trouble this is the only workstation doing it
[03:43] <tritium> prophet: lsmod | grep ipw2200
[03:44] <cge> khaled: It's just apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15, and then it will show up in /usr/src.
[03:44] <prophet> i dont know what that means
[03:44] <carajean> tritium: I googled that and i cant find it.
[03:44] <khaled> tritium: as i had a project before realted to modifying the policy of the process management couple of years ago
[03:44] <Heartsbane> tritium: yes dapper
[03:44] <tritium> prophet: to list the modules loaded, and look only for the ipw2200 module
[03:44] <tritium> carajean: googled what?
[03:44] <zerostarhx> wahh lol this shit is hard
[03:44] <tritium> khaled: okay
[03:44] <tritium> zerostarhx: watch the language please
[03:44] <zerostarhx> Sorry!
[03:44] <prophet> why would u want to see what modules are loaded? what do modules do?
[03:44] <Powerbook`> Does Tux Racer come with Ubuntu???
[03:44] <Heartsbane> tritium: I will make a forum post tomorrow, its just odd
[03:45] <Heartsbane> Night
[03:45] <__chris_> DBO here? :)
[03:45] <tritium> Powerbook`: not by default, but it's in the repos, if you want to install it
[03:45] <iiiears> Poerbook - Heed the warning about keeping universe enabled - many apps in the wild wild web aren't checked to see if the work, compiule or have erm "riders" (trojans) - ubunu's repos are as safe as it gets.
[03:45] <garrett_mass> Dual monitor support, anyone?
[03:45] <tritium> Heartsbane: a bug report would be better
[03:45] <DBO> __chris_, yes...
[03:45] <Powerbook`> iiiears which repo are those games ni?
[03:45] <Powerbook`> in*
[03:45] <tritium> garrett_mass: are you using fglrx or ati drivers?
[03:45] <__chris_> DBO remember me?
[03:45] <__chris_> :)
[03:45] <DBO> __chris_, yes
[03:45] <tritium> !info tuxracer
[03:45] <ubotu> Package tuxracer does not exist in dapper
[03:45] <carajean> that !dvd thing u said about a better dvd player
[03:45] <Powerbook`> tritium which repo are those in?
[03:45] <garrett_mass> tritium: ati drivers.
[03:45] <bubu1uk> prophet: modules are like drivers in win.
[03:45] <__chris_> DBO awesome!... get ready for this still on ubuntu... i love ubuntu!!
[03:46] <Powerbook`> !info atlantik
[03:46] <ubotu> atlantik: KDE client for Monopoly-like network games. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[03:46] <iiiears> Powerbook - games (perk) What game? (gamer here..)
[03:46] <tritium> !info planetpenguin-racer
[03:46] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 700 kB
[03:46] <prophet> they control the communication between the hardare
[03:46] <cge> What package do I need to install to install a minimum working Xorg?
[03:46] <iiiears> I love games
[03:46] <Heartsbane> tritium: I will keep that in mind, thanx, its days like this that make me hate monday's
[03:46] <garrett_mass> tritium: Would you suggest switching to fglrx?
[03:46] <tritium> Heartsbane: sorry, dude
[03:46] <DBO> __chris_, good to hear it =)
[03:46] <Heartsbane> Sokay
[03:46] <tritium> garrett_mass: no, not really.  The "radeon" manual page has info on extended desktop
[03:46] <__chris_> DBO Ok i had apache working, and my public ip changed, what can i do to make it not change... right now with new public ip i cant load up my website... :(
[03:47] <DBO> __chris_, are you using no-ip?
[03:47] <__chris_> DBO i herd you need a static IP
[03:47] <garrett_mass> tritium: Silly question but, could you point me in the right direction to that?
[03:47] <DBO> __chris_, you do, but you would have to ask your ISP for that
[03:47] <Powerbook`> iiiears how do i install universe?
[03:47] <TokenBad> was java redone for linux?
[03:47] <cge> __chris_: Quite a few places have dynamic dns now, however, in which case you don't need a static IP.
[03:47] <Powerbook`> I cant seem to figure it out
[03:47] <Nereus1977> DBO: have you looked into dynamic dns services
[03:47] <__chris_> DBO they want $50.00 a month for that compared to the price i am paying now
[03:47] <javiolo> How do I decompress a bunch of rar files .r00 .r01 ....
[03:48] <Nereus1977> cge beat me to it :)
[03:48] <DBO> Nereus1977, wrong guy =P
[03:48] <__chris_> DBO i am paying $13
[03:48] <__chris_> :)
[03:48] <sethk> __chris_, do you have control of the DHCP server that gives you the IP?
[03:48] <mikechml> javiolo: rar e file.r00
[03:48] <DBO> __chris_, you can use a dynamic dns, like no-ip which I mentioned before
[03:48] <tritium> garrett_mass: sure, System->Help, then search for radeon
[03:48] <mikechml> apt-get install rar, if you haven't already got it
[03:48] <__chris_> DBO no-ip.com ;)
[03:48] <garrett_mass> tritium: Thank you, sir.
[03:49] <javiolo> mikechml Im using unrar-free didnt find rar
[03:49] <tritium> garrett_mass: any time
[03:49] <__chris_> DBO is this free?
[03:49] <iiiears> Powerbook - open synaptic and click on "settings" .. "repositories"  "universe comunity supported"
[03:49] <Powerbook`> iokay
[03:49] <DBO> __chris_, there is a free version
[03:50] <mikechml> try unrar-free -x file.r00
[03:50] <__chris_> DBO where :) ? ():
[03:50] <javiolo> mikechml that doesnt works... that what I was trying
[03:50] <iiiears> Powerbook - Have you played "Battle for Wesnoth"? - has anyone tried it? - just wondering.
[03:50] <__chris_> DBO got it! DBO your the best
[03:50] <mikechml> hmm
[03:50] <__chris_> DBO if i have trouble will you be here?
[03:50] <__chris_> :)
[03:50] <Powerbook`> iiiears do i need internet to get those?
[03:50] <TokenBad> also in kubuntu can you use the disk manager to mount drives?
[03:51] <Powerbook`> I dont have net on my linux :s
[03:51] <mikechml> !info rar
[03:51] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:51] <DBO> __chris_, im in and out
[03:51] <mikechml> javiolo: i'd recommend getting that ^
[03:51] <nalioth> well, hi Hobbsee !
[03:51] <__chris_> DBO well ill be done signing up for the service in 2 mins or less
[03:51] <__chris_> :)
[03:51] <iiiears> Powerbook. - Huh? - yes. (i am easily confused )
[03:51] <javiolo> I think I have multiverse activated and doesnt find it
[03:52] <Hobbsee> hi nalioth
[03:52] <iiiears> Powerbook - do you need universe community supported enabled???
[03:52] <Powerbook`> i dont know i just intsalled it and i want some games :s
[03:52] <iiiears> yes
[03:52] <Powerbook`> i just installed ubuntu :@
[03:52] <javiolo> !multiverse
[03:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:52] <__chris_> DBO tar.gz download... i hate those packages
[03:52] <DBO> __chris_, not to worry, if you dont figure it out we can help you out
[03:52] <__chris_> DBO i think i can manage
[03:53] <tritium> garrett_mass: http://linux.spiney.org/debian_gnu_linux_on_an_ibm_thinkpad_t43p_graphics_card  <-- This has some useful examples
[03:53] <__chris_> DBO sudo it! :) sh take the sh out of it :)
[03:53] <__chris_> :P
[03:53] <iiiears> Powerbook - Unreal Tournament 2004 and doom 3 run natively - some other great games run darn well with either WINE or Cedega's WINE transgaming.org
[03:53] <garrett_mass> tritium: Thanks!
[03:53] <Skooj> hello, err.. when i boot up ubuntu I get an underscore in the top left of my screen and I can't do anything, I see it both on 6.06 and 5.10.. however, on 6.06 I also see the "uncompressing linux... ok. booting the kernel" thing above it (after the bootscreen disappears). how do i fix it, anyone know and can help?
[03:53] <tritium> garrett_mass: :)
[03:55] <iiiears> Powerbook - Got to give you the standard boilerplate message about Ubuntu - Ubuntu is addicting fun." - wide grin
[03:55] <Powerbook`> iiiears but without internet i cant download any games :\?
[03:55] <sethk> Skooj, boot a rescue cd, then look for /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:55] <iiiears> Powerbook - Wifi/ndiswrapper blues?
[03:55] <Skooj> err.. rescue cd?
[03:55] <sethk> Skooj, read that log, which hopefully will tell you why it failed.
[03:55] <sethk> Skooj, yes.  install cd in rescue mode, or a live cd
[03:56] <Powerbook`> iiiears in add and remove programs, dont all those come with it? so i dont need to download anything? but yet they dont work :\
[03:56] <Skooj> k, and how do i go about opening that sethk?
[03:56] <Skooj> like, xorg.0.log?
[03:56] <iiiears> Powerbook - still wrestling with that for my lappy. - some get it installed in a single click - i have not been one of the lucky ones.
[03:56] <javiolo> rar works not like unrar-free
[03:56] <sethk> Skooj, any editor, or you can do this:  more Xorg.0.log
[03:57] <javiolo> thanks!
[03:57] <mikechml> if it's just X failing, then you can press ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a shell
[03:57] <Skooj> kk brb
[03:57] <__chris_> DBO Please enter the login/email string for no-ip.com  chris
[03:57] <__chris_> Please enter the password for user 'chris'  ****
[03:57] <__chris_> You have entered an incorrect username
[03:57] <__chris_>         -or-
[03:57] <__chris_> an incorrect password for this username.
[03:57] <__chris_> mv /tmp/no-ip2.conf /usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf
[03:57] <__chris_> mv: cannot stat `/tmp/no-ip2.conf': No such file or directory
[03:57] <sethk> mikechml, depends on how far it got, but that's certainly worth trying
[03:57] <__chris_> make: *** [install]  Error 1
[03:57] <__chris_> sorry for the flood
[03:57] <__chris_> :|
[03:57] <zOap> __chris_, don't do that
[03:57] <Skooj> mikechml, ctrl alt f1 does nothing for me :S
[03:57] <DBO> __chris_, you know better, please dont flood again, as far as that goes though, have you registered yet?
[03:57] <iiiears> !paste
[03:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:58] <Skooj> just sits there with the underscore..
[03:58] <Skooj> anyhow imma try
[03:58] <__chris_> DBO i dont know how to regisister
[03:58] <sethk> mikechml, Skooj I've seen a couple of cases where a dma issue with the video card crashed the entire system
[03:58] <sethk> mikechml, and the symptoms were exactly what skooj is describing.
[03:58] <javiolo> !paste >  __chris_
[03:58] <Bonez> hi i'm having major problems with MySQL. Is there anyone here who knows much about it?
[03:58] <mikechml> ah
[03:58] <sethk> of course that's not the only possible cause.
[03:58] <DBO> __chris_, you register at their website
[03:59] <__chris_> DBO thanks
[03:59] <__chris_> :)
[03:59] <Skooj> err.. sethk, that's what others have told me it would probably be..
[03:59] <__chris_> pastebin DBO ?
[03:59] <DBO> __chris_, what do you need pastebin for?
[03:59] <Zambezi> Bonez, #mysql ?
[03:59] <DBO> __chris_, oh yes, for long messages use pastebin
[03:59] <Skooj> but lemme see
[04:00] <Viper550> Hey everyone, would anyone like to see a preview of one of the themes that may come with Edgy?
[04:01] <snoops> uh huh
[04:01] <mikechml> sure
[04:01] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic
[04:01] <Viper550> My new definition, this is what Human should had been like
[04:02] <whiter> anyone know how to get my sound working?
[04:02] <whiter> lspci shows the sound card, ubuntu just doesnt want to recognize it
[04:02] <__chris_> DBO http://pastebin.ca/99113
[04:03] <DBO> __chris_, did you register at the no-ip website?
[04:03] <__chris_> DBO yes
[04:03] <Viper550> So, how do you like it?
[04:04] <DBO> __chris_, give it your email address you entered at the website for your login name
[04:04] <danf_1979> I dont like the green stuff, but orange is ok. It looks nice
[04:04] <jon27kc> One reason Ubuntu caught my attention was the brown. I liked it. At least orange isn't blue. But not too taken, sorry.
[04:04] <danf_1979> :)
[04:04] <__chris_> DBO ohh i shoulda known that :P i feel dumb... DBO alright great!
[04:05] <snoops> Viper550 the inactive tabs colour look out of place and don't 'flow' with the colour of the other windows in my opinion
[04:05] <Viper550> The green ones were earlier versions, the one you should really pay attention to
[04:05] <__chris_> ok need to confiqure it on the website DBO :)
[04:05] <Crescendo> I need a data recovery tool to replace some of my Windows tools, what is a good one for Ubuntu/Linux in general?
[04:05] <DBO> __chris_, ok, sounds good
[04:06] <iiiears> the idea for brown bubbles desktop background is a bit busy. - got to vote for the current one being reused.
[04:06] <__chris_> DBO DNS Host (A)
[04:06] <__chris_> DNS Host (Round Robin)
[04:06] <__chris_> DNS Alias (CNAME)
[04:06] <__chris_> Port 80 Redirect
[04:06] <__chris_> Web Redirect?
[04:06] <Skooj> sethk, err.. what it's telling me is that it's using my onboard video card as opposed to my PCI card, but like, when i boot it up with the monitor plugged into the onboard it doesn't show me anything..
[04:06] <__chris_> Which one?
[04:07] <__chris_> :)
[04:07] <__chris_> DNS Host?
[04:07] <DBO> __chris_, yes
[04:07] <Viper550> There, the tabs are the same color now as the base interface, happy now snoops?
[04:07] <__chris_> Enable Wildcard?
[04:07] <phargle> i like orange.. its been awhile since ive had an orange desktop
[04:07] <__chris_> I mean Allow Wild Cards?
[04:08] <iiiears> Crescendo - take a look at the penguin sleuth kit and derivatives. - I have used HELIX for awhile. - they all use the same base utils and can be easily installed in ubuntu. tho HELIX is a knoppix live bootable cd
[04:08] <intelnux> I hope someone can explain some konfusion I've been stumbling around in: I clean install 6.06 last night and was trying to get wireless running and had sucess; then I decided I needed to have a static IP and when I went to change it I lost wireless and couldn't get it back again, so I did a new install and started over only this time I find I have /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-386 when I was expecting /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26-386
[04:08] <intelnux> I used the same Cd how can that happen?
[04:08] <__chris_> DBO Allow Wildcards: ? Enached/Plus Feature? :)
[04:08] <DBO> __chris_, you dont really need it... I doubt its in the free version
[04:08] <__chris_> DBO I wont click it thanks :)
[04:09] <iiiears> Crecsendo - Honestly any search for linux and forensics tools will turn up good candidates
[04:09] <songo_> can I apt-cache add a .deb pkg that I've download so apt can install it with no dependencies problems?
[04:09] <avis> i'm sorry.  i have to do something against the rules and offtopic just to celebrate ubuntu with you.  i'm poping my dual core 3.2 preston in my linux box tomorrow and putting my Celeron D 2.8 in my windows box.
[04:09] <__chris_> Says Wait 5 mins DBO :) lets hope it works!
[04:10] <tritium> avis: nothing to apologize for ;)
[04:10] <GG_Allin> how do I change an interface name, say from eth1 to wlan0 or something like that?
[04:10] <avis> danke :)
[04:10] <tritium> GG_Allin: try renaming it in /etc/iftab
[04:10] <GG_Allin> ok
[04:10] <Skooj> alright, so. here's my problem. i keep getting an underscore when booting into ubuntu (even on live cd, so i can't install 6.06, which i would like to), because (according to 5.10's xorg.0.log) it's trying to use my onboard card as opposed to my pci card, yet when i plug my monitor into the onboard port, it doesnt show me anything. what can i do to fix this?
[04:11] <tritium> Skooj: disable the onboard sound in the bios
[04:11] <Skooj> sound? or graphics?
[04:11] <Skooj> k, how do i get into bios? escape, right?
[04:11] <tritium> Skooj: sound
[04:11] <tritium> Skooj: depends on the mobo
[04:11] <Skooj> sound? but i'm having issues with graphics..
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> F2 F1 sometimes F12
[04:12] <tritium> Skooj: you said it's trying to use your onboard sound...
[04:12] <__chris_> DBO Please enter an update interval:[30] 
[04:12] <__chris_> ?
[04:12] <Skooj> err i meant onboard graphics..
[04:12] <__chris_> im in  the ternimal.. what do i type in DBO?
[04:12] <GG_Allin> basically I'm having the same problem as this guy --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185149   I'm unable to get an IP address from my router.  the guy in that thread solved his problem, but he doesn't say how.  anyone know how?
[04:12] <tritium> Skooj: well, disable that, then
[04:12] <DBO> __chris_, just press enter
[04:12] <Viper550> Okay, so I changed the inactive tab color to something darker, would that work better?
[04:12] <Skooj> err k
[04:12] <__chris_> DBO thanks :)
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> Skooj, can't you just do a dist-upgrade?
[04:13] <Skooj> nomasteryoda, i can't get anything to boot up
[04:13] <Skooj> brb lemme try to disable the card
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:13] <__chris_> DBO Do you wish to run something at successful update?[N]  (y/N)
[04:13] <DBO> __chris_, no
[04:13] <__chris_> thanks :)
[04:13] <celia> hello; I'm new to LAMP. I installed apache2, php5 and mysql4.1.15: My problem is cannot process php pages. Can some one help me?
[04:13] <__chris_> so its done :) DBO ... how do i add this new adress to my apache?
[04:14] <DBO> __chris_, you dont really need to
[04:14] <zerostarhx> any really experiance linux user want to answer a few questions for me?
[04:14] <sethk> celia, there are changes required in apache configuration to support php.  Did you make these?
[04:14] <zerostarhx> experiance *ubuntu* users
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> we will
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> ask
[04:14] <__chris_> DBO ok so i have this new adress... i made a website , i have the files in the apache folder, do i use the same apache commands?
[04:15] <Crescendo> iiiears, I'm having a bit of trouble finding the packages that these solutions use, in particular.   Mind lending me a hand, anything I can apt-get off hand?
[04:15] <DBO> __chris_, yeah pretty much
[04:15] <celia> sethk, i uncommented the lines in apache config to read php pages; nothing more
[04:15] <arooni> hey folks
[04:15] <__chris_> DBO do i have to tell Apache my new web adress?
[04:15] <zerostarhx> ok I've been keeping a gedit file with a kind of documentery on my experiances and questions I'll copy what 2 questions i have
[04:15] <sethk> the apache config isn't sensative to IP numbers, only names.
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> just not too long winded zerostarhx
[04:15] <iiiears> Crescendo - sure
[04:16] <DBO> __chris_, you can if you want, you can look up how to do that on google, there are a million walkthroughs
[04:16] <zerostarhx> ok i'll do one at a time
[04:16] <sethk> celia, you need to add .php to the list of allowable executable files (that is, a .php is allowed to do things)
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> you can post to pastebin if they are long
[04:16] <celia> i also edited /etc/hosts with the name of my hosts...
[04:16] <zerostarhx> -How do I add extracted files to my applications list? Do i need to use my Terminal?
[04:16] <zerostarhx> I sucessfully extracted a program to a folder I created
[04:16] <Skooj> erm, i can't disable onboard video boot in the bios. i can only change it to "onboard 1k (currently at)" or "onboard 512k"..?
[04:16] <__chris_> DBO will you be one of the millions? :)
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> extracted as in installed?
[04:16] <__chris_> ;)
[04:16] <zerostarhx> I'm not sure where its stored on my hard drive
[04:16] <sethk> celia, ok, /etc/hosts is needed, but (obviously ) not sufficient.
[04:16] <DBO> __chris_, not today, working on something else
[04:16] <celia> sethk, sure; i've already done that in /etc/apache2/apache.config
[04:16] <songo_> Can I apt-cache add a .deb pkg that I've download so apt can install it with no dependencies problems?
[04:16] <sethk> Skooj, that's a bitch
[04:16] <zerostarhx> I used the "Archive Manager"
[04:17] <__chris_> DBO thanks
[04:17] <zerostarhx> and created a folder in my home folder
[04:17] <tritium> songo_: no
[04:17] <zerostarhx> called Programs
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> zerostarhx, then they should be under your home
[04:17] <Skooj> so i can't disable my onboard video card?
[04:17] <__chris_> im sure the readme has something DBO i thank you for the help tonight
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:17] <__chris_> :)
[04:17] <sethk> celia, there is also a list of directories that are allowed to contain executable pages.
[04:17] <tritium> Skooj: why not?
[04:17] <zerostarhx> The part that i'm confused about is there isn't an exe. Can you tell I installed today? lol
[04:17] <zerostarhx> oh my I think I just found an exe lol
[04:17] <celia> sethk, i'm using a per-user directory configuration, and i can see html pages from these directories
[04:17] <Skooj> there's no option in bios tritium? i have pci selected as default card, but boot goes to onboard :S
[04:17] <songo_> How to install a .deb without messing up the depencies?
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> zerostarhx, ah so you may have just gotten a tar file with code to build a package
[04:18] <tritium> Skooj: which mobo is this?
[04:18] <BioVorE> zerostarhx: in linux fileextentions mean nothing..
[04:18] <sethk> celia, yes, but (obviously) http files are allowable anywhere in the directory structure
[04:18] <sethk> celia, but .php (again by default) is not.
[04:18] <Skooj> no idea, it came in a hewlett packard.. they dont tell me these things :S
[04:18] <zerostarhx> it says Mime type:application/x-executable
[04:18] <sethk> celia, so you have to tweak the apache conf and convince it to allow .php everywhere.
[04:18] <celia> sethk, oh! you mean per-user direcories must be enabled for php, specifically?
[04:18] <BioVorE> zerostarhx: exectable files are mark as x in the file persmissions
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> zerostarhx, my recommendations and all other ubuntu geeks here is to setup the repositories to provide the widest selection then do "sudo apt-get update" & "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:18] <sethk> celia, I believe so, yes.  I did what you are doing about six months ago and I'm a little hazy.
[04:19] <iiiears> zerotarhx - Welcome to Ubunu Linux - I'm guessing the redmond WA company will soon lose yet another customer. - Open source is amazing.
[04:19] <Skooj> the onboard card is an intel 818 family chip though.. i know that much
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> then launch synaptic and search for something you want to install
[04:19] <celia> sethk, ok, I see! I'll check that! thanks, seth
[04:19] <sethk> celia, but I do remember having to add the directory names where .php is allowable.
[04:19] <sethk> celia, good luck.
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> apt will do the rest.. including menu items
[04:19] <zerostarhx> iiiears: lol yeah I can't wait to learn it
[04:19] <celia> sethk, I know how to do that. Thanks a lot
[04:19] <zerostarhx> OI this will take more time than I have, do people stay up very late in here?
[04:19] <Skooj> so err.. can't use my pci card then?
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> iiiears, lol yea we hope so
[04:19] <zerostarhx> I'll be back in about 3-4 hours
[04:19] <Crescendo> iiiears, come up with anything?
[04:19] <tritium> zerostarhx: 24/7
[04:19] <sethk> Skooj, you can
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> tritium, LOL
[04:20] <tritium> zerostarhx: there are people here from all over the world, so there's always a crowd
[04:20] <zerostarhx> Woot, i'm so happy lol I can't wait to learn, I feel that adventure spirit comming up again
[04:20] <Skooj> well, i can't disable my onboard?
[04:20] <sethk> Skooj, you can use the PCI card without disabling the onboard video
[04:20] <iiiears> Crescendo - No. sorry.
[04:20] <tritium> nomasteryoda: :)
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu rocKs!
[04:20] <ardchoille> How do I detect the UID of the user who is currently logged in?
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> who
[04:20] <Skooj> err, then how do i fix my problem? it tries to send ubuntu through onboard, but when i plug my monitor into onboard port it won't show me anything? otherwise i jsut get the underscore?
[04:20] <sethk> Skooj, don't need to disable.  In the xorg.conf file, for a video board, the PCI information (bus, location on bus, etc.) is included.  If that info matches the PCI card, X will use the PCI card.
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> ardchoille, the who command
[04:20] <zerostarhx> tritium nomasteryoda iiiears: Thankyou guys!!! Hope to see you around! I'll be back later
[04:21] <iiiears> tritium will bail me out. Won't you please buddy. (i'll beg if necessary.)
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> zerostarhx, cool
[04:21] <Skooj> err.. yea, i'm not that linux savvy.. so how do i fix then?
[04:21] <sethk> Skooj, you will need to get into the system (again, rescue or live cd) to make the changes to xorg.conf, assuming it exists.
[04:21] <ardchoille> nomasteryoda: I need to put it into an if-then statement in a bash script
[04:21] <sethk> Skooj, the install completes normally, correct?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> ah, shell scripts.. what fun
[04:21] <zerostarhx> I will make a blog to post my discoveries questions ect and post it on the forums. That way I don't have to use gedit
[04:21] <sethk> ardchoille, that's easy enough
[04:21] <Skooj> of 5.10 yes, but i can't get livecd to boot up, sethk
[04:21] <zerostarhx> Talk to you guys soon! I'm going to afk for a bit
[04:22] <sethk> Skooj, ok, then you'll have to use rescue mode which is strictly command line.
[04:22] <tritium> zerostarhx: see you around :)
[04:22] <sethk> ardchoille, if    whatever
[04:22] <sethk> ardchoille, then
[04:22] <tritium> iiiears: sorry, was distracted.  With what, bud?
[04:22] <Skooj> k, so how do i get to xorg.conf and how do i do whatever you said?
[04:22] <sethk> ardchoille, one or more lines to exec
[04:22] <sethk> ardchoille, else
[04:22] <__chris_> someone know where the httpd.conf file is?
[04:22] <sethk> ardchoille, one or more lines to exec
[04:22] <sethk> ardchoille, fi
[04:23] <tritium> __chris_: should be under /etc/apache2
[04:23] <ardchoille> sethk: Got that part, what do I use for the "whatever" to detect which user is logged in?
[04:23] <__chris_> thanks trutium
[04:23] <iiiears> tritium - Could you help Crescendo? (Okay, i am begging.)
[04:23] <__chris_> tritium got a question, do you have no-ip?
[04:23] <tritium> __chris_: but that's from memory, since I've not used it in a long time
[04:23] <tritium> iiiears: I'll try, but I need to get up to speed on his problem
[04:23] <sethk> ardchoille, there is a way to get that, let me see if I have an example.
[04:23] <bertlacy812> ok i have a question..
[04:23] <tritium> __chris_: no-ip?
[04:23] <ardchoille> sethk: :)
[04:23] <__chris_> tritium yes
[04:23] <__chris_> :)
[04:24] <tritium> __chris_: no idea what you're referring to...
[04:24] <Crescendo> I'm trying to find some data recovery tools that I can run natively in Ubuntu, and run on another drive, particularly an NTFS drive.
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> ardchoille, what purpose for the script?
[04:24] <__chris_> www.no-ip dot com
[04:24] <Skooj> err sethk, how do i get to/edit xorg.conf to fix my problem?
[04:24] <tritium> __chris_: nope, sorry
[04:24] <bertlacy812> I just installed ubuntu and I never setup a username but I did setup passwords so needless to say I couldn't login when I first booted.  Is there a default or am I just missing something
[04:24] <ardchoille> nomasteryoda: Setting up a multi-user system so I can log them out when their time is up.
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> i found a good example of kicking logged in users uses if else ...
[04:24] <__chris_> trutium good memory you got it
[04:24] <__chris_> :)
[04:24] <sethk> ardchoille, you capture the output of   whoami     which is the current user name
[04:24] <__chris_> thank you
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> ardchoille, that should work nicely
[04:24] <tritium> Crescendo: what's up?
[04:25] <bertlacy812> anybody have any ideas
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> will need to adjust to bash, but korn is not that much diff
[04:25] <sethk> bertlacy812, there is always a root account, and the installs generally create an account.
[04:25] <Crescendo> tritium, I'm trying to find some data recovery tools that I can run natively in Ubuntu, and run on another drive, particularly an NTFS drive.
[04:25] <Skooj> err sethk, how do i get to/edit xorg.conf to fix my problem?
[04:25] <bertlacy812> what is the root accounts user/pass
[04:25] <sethk> bertlacy812, if there is truly no user created after install, you'll have to boot a live cd or rescue cd and create the user.
[04:26] <sethk> Skooj, I use vi in command line mode to edit files
[04:26] <tritium> Crescendo: ah, hmm, I've not used any...let me search around a bit
[04:26] <ardchoille> sethk: That will work perfectly. Thank you :)
[04:26] <Skooj> k
[04:26] <Skooj> but like, i don't know what to edit?
[04:26] <dli> how do I make ivman automounting work in fluxbox?
[04:26] <sethk> ardchoille, np
[04:26] <bertlacy812> I setup a Host name for my lan but that is it
[04:26] <Skooj> meh, i'll just try using my onboard card.. see if that works first
[04:26] <bertlacy812> what is the root account
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> it had to ask for a username
[04:26] <bertlacy812> username and password
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> there is not
[04:27] <bertlacy812> I swear unless Im really drunk right now that i never entered one.  I know this sounds stupid
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> your username and password ... use sudo -s
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:27] <tritium> Crescendo: found one:  gddrescue
[04:27] <songo_> how to apt-get install a local previous downloaded deb file?
[04:27] <chiefinnovator> hi everyone
[04:27] <cimon> Hi everybody: Are there ubuntu-related channels that focus on a particular part of the distro out there, like xubuntu channels, frex.
[04:27] <Crescendo> tritium, alright, I'm going to give that a shot real quick.
[04:27] <bertlacy812> so when it asks for username just type sudu -s
[04:27] <tritium> Crescendo: apt-cache search data | grep rescue
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> dpkg -install pkgname.deb
[04:27] <Crescendo> Right now I'm WinEing a windows tool.
[04:28] <chiefinnovator> could someone verify that I'm in this room?
[04:28] <chiefinnovator> I'm not sure if I need to register or not
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:28] <tritium> Crescendo: apt-cache search data | grep recovery, also
[04:28] <spades> chiefinnovator registering is only needed for PM i think
[04:28] <inono> Can I use win on ubuntu x64?
[04:28] <chiefinnovator> spades, what's PM?
[04:28] <inono> wine ?
[04:28] <tritium> inono: yes
[04:28] <spades> chiefinnovator private messaging
[04:28] <chiefinnovator> cool, so I'm really in the room
[04:28] <chiefinnovator> Here's a question for everyone
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> chiefinnovator, oh yes
[04:29] <noway-> Is there a way to partition the drives after installation?
[04:29] <chiefinnovator> I want to buy a low end graphics card
[04:29] <spades> chiefinnovator unless im going more crazy than usual, yes, youre here
[04:29] <chiefinnovator> what is most compatible with Ubuntu?
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> noway-, yes ... best to install gparted
[04:29] <tritium> chiefinnovator: but how can you be _sure_ you're here?
[04:29] <snoops> umm you can't use wine natively on amd64 inono
[04:29] <noway-> nomasteryoda, is it commandline or in GUI form :-D
[04:29] <snoops> you can have a chroot 32bit environment and use it on that..
[04:29] <chiefinnovator> Yes, yes I'm here
[04:29] <inono> noooooo ok
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> gui
[04:30] <noway-> nomasteryoda, sweet, thanks
[04:30] <portalfire> hello.
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> gparted also rocks
[04:30] <portalfire> any experts on VNC or vine here?
[04:30] <chiefinnovator> so what's a good graphics card for Ubuntu?
[04:30] <Skooj> changing my card to the onboard in the bios worked. but err.. i don't knwo hwo to change the crap so my pci card will work
[04:30] <portalfire> vino
[04:30] <ardchoille> sethk: "if [ $(whoami) = user1 ] "  and   "if [ $UID = 1000 ] " will both work :)
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> chiefinnovator, nvidia
[04:30] <spades> chiefinnovator https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28hardware%29
[04:30] <chiefinnovator> nomasteryoda, thanks.  Any particular one or do they all work?
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> look at spades link
[04:30] <tritium> chiefinnovator: they all work, for the most part
[04:31] <iiiears> nVidia has MUCH better drivers
[04:31] <Skooj> lol nomasteryoda, i use nvidia and can't seem to get teh pci to work?
[04:31] <tritium> That _may_ change with AMD's acquisition of ATI
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> chiefinnovator, if you want to play GL games and try out xgl and compiz, then nvidia ... not ati imho
[04:31] <noway-> Is it possible unmount the partition that is on / ? heh
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> Skooj, wow
[04:32] <chiefinnovator> nomasteryoda, will 128 MB cut it for games and xgl?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> noway-, noway... unless you are on live cd and chroot
[04:32] <Skooj> lol nomasteryoda, i prolly installed wrong or don't know how to.. works with onboard but meh. dunno how to edit xorg.conf to work with my pci
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> chiefinnovator, should be ok but more would be better of course
[04:32] <noway-> nomasteryoda, i getcha, thanks man
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> Skooj, so you want dual video agp/pci
[04:33] <tritium> Skooj: look for the PCI id of your card with lspci
[04:33] <Skooj> err lspci?
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:33] <tritium> Skooj: no err, just lspci
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> open a terminal and typ it
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> type that
[04:33] <Skooj> oh ok
[04:33] <portalfire> i want to use my ubuntu headless. but when i dont connect a monitor and boot up, it defaults vnc's resolution to 640x480. can anyone help me?
[04:33] <Skooj> k brb
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> http://www.cs.vassar.edu/SysNews/vnc/resolut.html
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> portalfire
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> try that
[04:34] <portalfire> k
[04:35] <helpplz> I dont get any sound when trying to play quake :( anyone now how I can get it?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> portalfire, but you should put the info you require into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> google for good examples
[04:35] <chiefinnovator> Ok I'm looking at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28hardware%29 page
[04:36] <chiefinnovator> and it says "3D requires nvidia-glx, see BinaryDriverHowto"
[04:36] <tritium> !nvidia
[04:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <chiefinnovator> I'm ok with that
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> for true 3D
[04:36] <Skooj> ok, tritium / nomasteryoda, it said the nvidia was "0000:01:08.0 vga compitibal controller: nvidia etc etc"
[04:36] <chiefinnovator> but what happens when I first install?
[04:36] <chiefinnovator> will I get a gui?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> yea you will
[04:36] <tritium> Skooj: now, you can specify the PCI id of your card in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:36] <chiefinnovator> just not 3D or something?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> right
[04:36] <Skooj> k
[04:37] <portalfire> i tried everything that i found online
[04:37] <Skooj> then i reboot and it works tritium?
[04:37] <portalfire> including the link u just typed
[04:37] <danny50010_> I'm back
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> portalfire, just sec
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[04:37] <danny50010_> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[04:37] <portalfire> ports other than 5900 dont work
[04:37] <danny50010_> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[04:37] <portalfire> k
[04:37] <tritium> Skooj: I can't guarantee tht
[04:37] <danny50010_> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> kickem
[04:37] <BioVorE> fear the spam
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> thanks tritium
[04:37] <majd> hey
[04:37] <majd> would anyone please help me set proftpd up?
[04:37] <dadgumit> what's all the flooding?
[04:37] <tritium> nomasteryoda: no sweat ;)
[04:38] <iiiears> wonder who got the last "haha" - grin
[04:38] <majd> i can't seem to be able to get any help on configuring it
[04:38] <Skooj> kk brb gonna try
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> dadgumit, people who should know better
[04:39] <portalfire> i have edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf. it had the driver set to vesa
[04:39] <portalfire> and the only resolution left is 1024x768
[04:39] <portalfire> yet it still defaults to 640x480
[04:40] <veriquex> bump
[04:40] <intelnux> how can the firmware version in /lib change from one istall to the next off the same CD?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> portalfire, did you look here? http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu
[04:41] <Meatwad> how do i change a single icon's image (not entire theme) to an image that is not present in the default set of "emblems"
[04:41] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to make ubuntu to see a sharing windows printer?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> Meatwad, right click the icon, click the icon in that dialog and point to the one you want
[04:42] <portalfire> yep
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> hmm
[04:42] <portalfire> still no luck
[04:43] <portalfire> ubuntu uses vino as a vnc server right?
[04:43] <DarkED> hey all
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> welcome DarkED
[04:43] <MojoRison> can anyone help me....having problems getting codecs for totem....kaffeine is working fine...but totem not so much..
[04:43] <portalfire> so, does /etc/X11/xorg.conf configure it?
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> portalfire, you could http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> try that one?
[04:43] <chiefinnovator> ok video card performance question:
[04:43] <backwards> hello!
[04:44] <DarkED> so how has everyone been?
[04:44] <DarkED> its been... two months?
[04:44] <chiefinnovator> 256 MB AGP vs. 128 MB PCIe
[04:44] <Meatwad> nomasteryoda:  i have installed IE 6 and would like to use the IE icon instead of the question mark it currently has, but i can't figure out how to add the IE image as an icon so i can pick it
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> supa DarkED
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> ic
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> or ickky
[04:44] <backwards> can some one help with a grub question
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> Meatwad, save the icon as an image... sure they abound on google image
[04:44] <aeruz> backwards: what is the question?
[04:44] <snoops> not if we don't know what the question is!
[04:45] <chiefinnovator> anyone know that video card question?
[04:45] <chiefinnovator> 256 MB AGP vs. 128 MB PCIe
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> Meatwad, that works for all.. you are using Ubuntu right?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> agp any day
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> imho
[04:45] <iiiears> cheifinnovator - grab the card 256 ram. - Why can't you have both 256/512 mbs ram and pcie?
[04:45] <backwards> will im trying to do a install of ubuntu on a sata drive and when i reboot after the install all i get is a error 1 with grub looking for a floppy drive
[04:45] <Flav> which speed agp?  2x? 4x? 8x?
[04:46] <chiefinnovator> 8x
[04:46] <chiefinnovator> I only want to spend 100
[04:46] <Meatwad> nomasteryoda: yes, i have the png image in a folder in my ubuntu home directory
[04:46] <iiiears> !grub
[04:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:47] <highphilosopher> EHLO all
[04:47] <aeruz> maybe you told grub to look for the root on the floppy disc or you told ubuntu to boot from floppy
[04:47] <majd> hey
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> Meatwad, anything should work fine then...l i just clicked a screenshot.png in my home and it stuck to my hifi.m3u file as it's icon
[04:47] <chiefinnovator> I think I need PCIe actually, new mb's don't have AGP, right?
[04:47] <majd> what's the ubuntu equivalent of  # rc-update add proftpd default ?
[04:47] <iiiears> backwards - are you installinfg RAID?
[04:47] <backwards> i dont have a windows install and the grub.conf is fine
[04:47] <tritium> majd: update-rc.d
[04:47] <snoops> chiefinnovator right.. new mobos generally don't have agp..
[04:47] <backwards> no raid
[04:47] <iiiears> backwards - Oops, sorry. :x
[04:48] <Flav> chiefinnovator: the mobo already decided/bought?
[04:48] <chiefinnovator> Flav, haven't bought one yet
[04:48] <detien> I just installed ubuntu. Ubuntu dected my NIC card and it's actived but when I plug in cat5 cable. It doens't let me get online. Status is Idle , Activity Received: 186 packets (27.6 Kb) . Sent 21 packets ( 4.0 Kb)
[04:48] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: So you have a preference on processor?
[04:48] <detien> Can someone please help me to get it work?
[04:48] <chiefinnovator> yes
[04:48] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, yes
[04:48] <ttyfscker> does anybody in here happen to have a Dell Inspiron 6000?  i was wondering what the battery life says from the manual, so i can put the values in on my battery monitor in xfce
[04:48] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: which one?
[04:49] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, I was thinking to get this one:
[04:49] <chiefinnovator> # Intel Pentium D 930 Presler 800MHz FSB 2 x 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> detien, open a terminal and type dmesg
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> looking for any errors
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> near the end
[04:49] <Meatwad> nomasteryoda:  thanks, it worked
[04:49] <tritium> chiefinnovator: that's a great value now that Conroe is almost available
[04:49] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: If I could make a humble comment...
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> cool Meatwad
[04:49] <khaled> guys, what is the best IDE for c++ programming?
[04:49] <snoops> cool - pretty sure the 930 has virtualization - meaning you could use xen and run multiple os's at once :)
[04:49] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, comment away
[04:49] <intelnux> when will core 2 duo be avilable?
[04:49] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I have an athlon 64 3800+ Dual Core on ubuntu right now :)
[04:50] <BioVorE> intelnux: now..
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> nice
[04:50] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install a printer in linux that is being share in windows???
[04:50] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I have never seen anything faster
[04:50] <helpplz> I dont get any sound in quake3.. how can I get the sound to work?
[04:50] <intelnux> BioVorE who has it
[04:50] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, I definately want a dual core
[04:50] <tritium> intelnux: in about 3 days to large distributors at least
[04:50] <khaled> guys, what is the best IDE for c++ programming?
[04:50] <intelnux> newegg?
[04:50] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: This thing RUNS :)
[04:50] <iiiears> AMD is promising quad core - lol - can i borrow a grand in january? - lol
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> SuperMiguel, you need to point to the windows shared printer using samba ports
[04:50] <majd> hey
[04:50] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: and the price tag was not too bad.
[04:50] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, how much are those?
[04:50] <majd> i get this error when i try to start proftpd: Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: failed
[04:51] <tritium> intelnux: not that soon on newegg, likely
[04:51] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: It's on a Biostar Gforce6100 Socket 939
[04:51] <snoops> chiefinnovator but yeah.. the only thing I hate about my cpu - no virtualization :(
[04:51] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: MOBO was like ~75 and the proc was ~250
[04:51] <portalfire> nomasteryoda: nope, still no new info
[04:51] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install a printer in linux that is being share in windows???
[04:51] <intelnux> newegg is nice to deal wiht but they seem to lag behind on some things
[04:51] <tritium> highphilosopher: Core 2 is faster _and_ more power efficient
[04:51] <khaled> guys, what is the best IDE for c++ programming?
[04:51] <portalfire> vim
[04:51] <portalfire> or kdevelop
[04:51] <iiiears> snoops - Is that across the entire AMD line? intel seems to have it on quite a few processors.
[04:51] <tritium> khaled: please don't repeat.  It's depends on personal preference
[04:51] <highphilosopher> tritium: I haven't had a chance to mess with the core2 yet myself
[04:52] <intelnux> I like them becasue they take a personal check
[04:52] <chiefinnovator> snoops, what does no virtualization mean?
[04:52] <redcard> I'm a fan of ajunta, personally
[04:52] <tritium> highphilosopher: nor have I, but I've read a bit on it
[04:52] <chiefinnovator> do I want virtualization?
[04:52] <khaled> tritium: sorry man
[04:52] <portalfire> nomasteryoda: any other ideas?
[04:52] <backwards> After reboot i get a "MBR Error 1  Press any key to boot from floppy..."
[04:52] <highphilosopher> OIC I must say it's about time Intel made something that can compete with the 64's in *nix world
[04:52] <majd> i get this error when i try to start proftpd: Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: failed
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/doc.html
[04:52] <tritium> khaled: it's okay :)
[04:52] <iiiears> tritium - 2 words "overclockers and returns - my own personal conspiracy theory. - rofl
[04:53] <tritium> iiiears: heh :)
[04:53] <backwards> any help would be great
[04:53] <tritium> Intel regains the lead (at least for now)
[04:53] <DarkED> well, i wanted to say hi to everyone, let you guys know im back
[04:53] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: :) Just get a mac :)
[04:53] <DarkED> ill keep in touch
[04:53] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, really a mac??
[04:53] <snoops> iiiears the am2 has pacifica which is amd's virtualization
[04:53] <backwards> i love my mac
[04:53] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I'm on one right now :)
[04:53] <nomasteryoda> http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ or that one portalfire
[04:53] <backwards> i am too
[04:53] <highphilosopher> backwards: do you have ubuntu on it?
[04:53] <backwards> nope
[04:53] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, so you're running ubuntu on a mac?
[04:54] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: yes.
[04:54] <backwards> trying to get that on my desktop
[04:54] <tritium> chiefinnovator: you can
[04:54] <snoops> chiefinnovator if you don't know what it is, probably not :).. allows you to run multiple operating systems at so close to full speed you won't be able to tell the difference
[04:54] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: rather well.
[04:54] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to print to winfrom ubuntudows xp?
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> i have kubuntu on the iMac
[04:54] <iiiears> snoops - thanks, going to check that out. (hope it's affordable - feeding a recent addiction to QEMU)
[04:54] <majd> i get this error when i try to start proftpd: Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: failed
[04:54] <chiefinnovator> snoops, but you can still run another os on any fast processor and it's not terrible, right?
[04:54] <highphilosopher> I bought an old imac G3 350 MHZ for like $80 and put xubuntu on it
[04:55] <highphilosopher> it handles great
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> SuperMiguel, you need to share the windows printer
[04:55] <highphilosopher> no lag
[04:55] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, so what are you doing with the atholon one then?
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> SuperMiguel, then use the Ubuntu printer tool to find it... via the samba port
[04:55] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I have a total of four systems here
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> how
[04:55] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, and what do you do with all those systems?
[04:55] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I have my athlon 3800+ (server mostly)
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> SuperMiguel, just sec
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> ok
[04:55] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: my iBook (laptop)
[04:56] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, I'm trying to cut back to one system
[04:56] <SuperMiguel> the printer is sharing alredy
[04:56] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: my athlon XP 2400+ (wife's system)
[04:56] <snoops> chiefinnovator well, it's quite different.. xen a hypervisor which works at cpu ring -1 which basically means it's in the control seat, and dictacts what os gets what
[04:56] <SuperMiguel> but i dont know how to find it
[04:56] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: and my iMac G3 350 (new toy) :)
[04:56] <majd> does ubuntu come with a built in ftp server?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> SuperMiguel,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205011
[04:56] <majd> i'm really having trouble setting an ftp server up
[04:56] <tritium> majd: no, you'll have to set that up
[04:56] <BioVorE> majd: its in apt.. there are several to choose from
[04:57] <snoops> tritium I think a conroe box will be ideal next year :)
[04:57] <majd> BioVorE, you were helping me earlier right?
[04:57] <highphilosopher> majd: check out the ubuntu guide.
[04:57] <majd> ok, i installed proftpd
[04:57] <majd> but i'm having trouble configuring it
[04:57] <Skooj> erm, hey, what do i edit everything in xorg.conf to?
[04:57] <tritium> majd: by default, it ships with no ports open, for security.  You have to setup services such as ftp.  (I'd recommend against ftp, actually)
[04:57] <majd> i've looked at every guide i can find, thery're all very general
[04:57] <tritium> snoops: I agree, but I'm building a cheapish media PC
[04:57] <majd> tritium, sftp?
[04:57] <chiefinnovator> by the way, if I do get a dual core, do I need to install a special kernel?
[04:57] <tritium> majd: yes
[04:57] <portalfire> nomasteryoda: still nothing. thx for trying. i guess i need to get  a vncserver clone
[04:57] <majd> what program can i use?
[04:57] <tritium> chiefinnovator: -smp
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> sftp is secure ftp
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> using ssh
[04:57] <tritium> majd: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:57] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: ubuntu handled that for me :)
[04:58] <majd> ssh is sftp?
[04:58] <chiefinnovator> tritium, what's -smp?
[04:58] <dibblego> chiefinnovator, symmetric multi-processor
[04:58] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: symmetric multi processing
[04:58] <Skooj> tritium, what do i change everything to in xorg.conf? my pci number thing was much longer than that of my onboard card?
[04:58] <tritium> chiefinnovator: see above
[04:58] <highphilosopher> hey kewl echo
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> portalfire, good luck..
[04:58] <chiefinnovator> so I do need a different kernel?
[04:58] <majd> tritium, i thought ssh was a way to control the terminal from a remote computer...
[04:58] <chiefinnovator> is it hard to install?
[04:58] <tritium> chiefinnovator: no, it's very easy
[04:58] <dibblego> majd, ssh is that and more
[04:58] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: ubuntu will auto install it in the setup
[04:58] <tritium> majd: it has many uses
[04:58] <chiefinnovator> oh, so on bootup I do -smp?
[04:58] <tritium> Skooj: just the PCI id
[04:59] <majd> tritium, what do i do after installing openssh-server?
[04:59] <snoops> such as you can tunnel vnc over ssh
[04:59] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: naa just let it run it
[04:59] <tritium> chiefinnovator: not quite.  You'd install a different kernel image
[04:59] <tritium> majd: that's it!  Just start using it ;)
[04:59] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, tritium why are you guys telling me different things ?
[04:59] <Skooj> tritium, the long number? for my onboard it's just 0:1:0... but for my pci card it's like , 0000:01:08.0...
[04:59] <tritium> chiefinnovator: such as?
[04:59] <majd> tritium, no configuration? what username/password do i use? do i have universal access?
[04:59] <Skooj> and what about teh driver, the driver is currently "i868" or soemthing
[04:59] <chiefinnovator> so it's automatic or I do something?
[05:00] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: when you install ubuntu fresh, the setup will install an SMP kernel if it detects the dual core
[05:00] <tritium> Skooj: what was the PCI id?
[05:00] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: IF you already have an existing install, you can upgrade your kernel
[05:00] <snoops> highphilosopher that didn't happen with my 4400+ amd
[05:00] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, oh ok
[05:00] <highphilosopher> snoops: really?
[05:01] <Skooj> tritium, for which?
[05:01] <tritium> chiefinnovator: either way, we'll get you setup right :)
[05:01] <tritium> Skooj: the video card you want tu use
[05:01] <tritium> to use
[05:01] <snoops> highphilosopher yep had to manually install smp
[05:01] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, thanks I'm excited to the new computer
[05:01] <highphilosopher> snoop: odd, which version were you installing?
[05:01] <snoops> highphilosopher i386
[05:01] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: have you decided on a motherboard brand?
[05:01] <tritium> chiefinnovator: remember, you always have friends in #ubuntu :)
[05:01] <snoops> desktop edition
[05:01] <prophet> where do you turn off the login screen?
[05:01] <Skooj> tritium, pci id for my nvidia pci card was 0000:01:08.0, and err, what about the driver? should i cahnge taht too? and the name of the card?
[05:01] <tuesday> Where would a beginner look if they were seeking advice on customizing the look of gnome on ubuntu dapper?
[05:01] <highphilosopher> snoops: you need the 64bit edition to install on a 4400_
[05:02] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, I decided on this motherboard because it looked cheap and I couldn't find any complaints on it:
[05:02] <chiefinnovator> Intel BOXD945PSNLK Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard
[05:02] <snoops> highphilosopher haha.. well then I can't use flash or wine without emulating 32bit.. been down that road.. no thanks :)
[05:02] <VitaminG> tuesday: right here
[05:02] <chiefinnovator> but I really have no idea what I'm doing
[05:02] <highphilosopher> snoops: true dat
[05:02] <tritium> Skooj: so that would be PCI:1:8:0
[05:02] <VitaminG> tuesday: I'm assuming you're looking for new themes
[05:02] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: Personally I prefer sticking with either Biostar or ASUS
[05:03] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, why is that?
[05:03] <tuesday> Yes
[05:03] <tritium> chiefinnovator: ASUS rocks
[05:03] <Skooj> k, tritium, what do i call it for it's name thingy and uh.. what's it's driver (it's an nvidia)
[05:03] <tuesday> Themes, and a faster alternative to gdesklets if one is available
[05:03] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: better brands... they stand behind their product (and replace it if necessary)
[05:03] <tritium> Skooj: one step at a time.  Let's just get it working, then we'll setup nvidia
[05:03] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: If you can afford ASUS is the king.
[05:03] <Skooj> lol k tritium :) brb
[05:03] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: If you want a cheaper good alternative, biostar rocks too :)
[05:04] <VitaminG> tuesday: I don't jknow of any alternative to gdesklets, so that i can't help you with. for themes, go to http://art.gnome.org/
[05:04] <tritium> Skooj: it may be best to first "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and see if you can configure it properly that way
[05:04] <prophet> where do you turn off the login screen?
[05:04] <tritium> prophet: what do you mean?
[05:04] <prophet> i dont want to have to login everytime
[05:04] <prophet> i just want it to go streigh into ubuntu
[05:04] <veriquex> he wants auto login
[05:04] <prophet> yeah
[05:05] <prophet> i totally forgot where it was
[05:05] <tritium> prophet: System->Administration->Login Window
[05:05] <prophet> i had to turned off
[05:05] <skavenge> tuesday: gnome-look.org for gtk/metacity themes for sure, if you've got theme manager open you can drag .tar.gz'd themes right into the manager and they install - ive found that 95% work
[05:05] <prophet> im there
[05:05] <prophet> but i cant find where
[05:05] <linux_user400351> can anyone help me resize a logical volume with ext3?
[05:05] <tuesday> I found that this system runs exponentially slower than my home system, even though this system uses preload and my home system does not.
[05:05] <prophet> what to select
[05:05] <SuperMiguel> does any one knows how to print to a windows xp printer from linux??
[05:05] <bimberi> prophet: Security tab, at the top
[05:06] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, biostar sounds good then
[05:06] <prophet> thanks DAMN i couldnt see that for some reason
[05:06] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: check out zipzoomfly.com. They usually have good prices
[05:06] <tritium> chiefinnovator: if you prefer.  I'd go with ASUS, if you could
[05:06] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, if the price is similiar I guess I'll try asus
[05:06] <chiefinnovator> can I still get the same processor?
[05:07] <tritium> chiefinnovator: you definitely want Intel?
[05:07] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: just be sure the socket on both matches up :)
[05:07] <dribble> something's borked with nwn and it's driving me crazy.  pfffbbttt
[05:07] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, I just thought Intel was better, no?
[05:07] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, again I don't know what I'm doing
[05:07] <GigaClon> is there any way to disable cacheing in Firefox for speific domains?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> SuperMiguel, look here dude... there is the answer... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=435756
[05:07] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: that's a personal preference
[05:07] <redcard> Out of curiousity.. I have a mac running ubuntu.. and I'm getting a pc running it.  Is there a way to export my apt settings and use those to "mirror" the new pc installation?
[05:07] <tritium> chiefinnovator: depends on who you ask, and which product line we're talking about
[05:07] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: You can go either way
[05:08] <tuesday> Intel is crud.
[05:08] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, well how do I decide!
[05:08] <tritium> chiefinnovator: research enough until you've made up your mind
[05:08] <linux_user400351> can anyone help me resize a logical volume with ext3?
[05:08] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I like the athlon 54's, but the pentium D's are great too
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> tuesday, yea, but one thing for sure... my intel 855gm runs aixgl sweet
[05:08] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: DO NOT GO CELERON
[05:08] <VitaminG> tuesday: that's a good site too. once you're to one of the sites, go through the different categories to find themes you like. There are usually separate downloads for window borders, application themes, gdm(login screen) themes, and backgrounds.
[05:09] <tritium> chiefinnovator: today, I'd buy an Athlon 64 X2.  In a few months, I'd but an Intel Core 2
[05:09] <chiefinnovator> tritium, what's good about the athlon 64 X2?
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> speed
[05:09] <chiefinnovator> tritium, is it dual core?
[05:09] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: dual core... 64bit...
[05:09] <tritium> chiefinnovator: read sites like anandtech.com, tomshardware.com, dailytech.com, etc.
[05:09] <redcard> Nevermind, I found it.
[05:09] <Skooj> tritium, err.. i saved the file and rebooted and got an xconfig error or something :S was i not supposed to reboot?
[05:09] <tritium> chiefinnovator: indeed
[05:09] <jjohn> hello
[05:10] <tritium> chiefinnovator: motherboards.org too
[05:10] <VitaminG> highphilosopher: yeah, go with the Celeron D. The D stands for extreme. http://sleeping143.googlepages.com/celeron_banner.jpg
[05:10] <highphilosopher> hahahaha
[05:10] <highphilosopher> VitaminD: that's great
[05:10] <chiefinnovator> I'm going to go read now
[05:10] <tritium> chiefinnovator: then, you have to think about cases, power supplies, memory, and what cards you want to put in it
[05:10] <Skooj> tritium, err.. i saved the file and rebooted and got an xconfig error or something :S was i not supposed to reboot?
[05:10] <Skooj> oops..
[05:10] <VitaminG> thanks
[05:11] <Skooj> sorry didnt mean to double send..
[05:11] <tritium> Skooj: did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and reconfigure it?
[05:11] <Skooj> err no?
[05:11] <chiefinnovator> tritium, I found this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811148029
[05:11] <tritium> Skooj: that's what I suggested you try first
[05:11] <Skooj> lol didnt see that..
[05:11] <jjohn> I am trying to edit /etc/modprobe.d if I "sudo" it does not open. If I go through the file manager it does not save. can any one help please
[05:11] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: when you go to buy, be sure to check out zipzoomfly.com, and geeks.com
[05:12] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, is newegg good too?
[05:12] <Skooj> k brb lemme do taht
[05:12] <jrsims_> hey, is there a way to make my entire meny bar transparent, including the task buttons?
[05:12] <jrsims_> menu bar
[05:12] <tritium> chiefinnovator: newegg is pretty good, yes.  You might also look at Antec cases
[05:12] <VitaminG> cheifinnovator: newegg is awesome!
[05:12] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: yeah, they're good.
[05:12] <prophet> what can i view DVDs wtih?
[05:12] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: amamax.com sell good cheap cases too
[05:12] <tritium> !dvd > prophet
[05:13] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: but they are overpriced on everything else
[05:13] <prophet> its just called dvd
[05:13] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, tritium what's good to look for in a case?
[05:13] <VitaminG> be careful with shipping in newegg, make sure you don't use the default UPS, pay a bit more for FedEx.
[05:13] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: look :) minimum 450 (naa 500) watt power supply
[05:13] <Skooj> tritium, is nv nvidia for nvidia?
[05:13] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: and looks
[05:13] <tritium> chiefinnovator: cooling, noise, PSU
[05:13] <veriquex> what's wrong with UPS?
[05:13] <tritium> Skooj: yes, the open-source driver
[05:14] <Skooj> ok, so i want that one
[05:14] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: I saw one the other day with a turbine fan on the front (kinda overkill)
[05:14] <tritium> Skooj: later on, we can setup the proprietary driver if you prefer
[05:14] <jjohn> any one help with my edit prob??
[05:14] <SuperMiguel> does any of you have the plugins for mp3?
[05:14] <Skooj> lol k
[05:14] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, tritium, do I have enough knowledge to do this?  I feel kinda overwhelmed
[05:14] <prophet> can VLC view DVDs
[05:14] <detienn> my ethernet card is activated but it isn't connecting. Can someone please help me to get it connect. I tried sudo ifup eth0 and it said that No DHCPOFFERS received
[05:14] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: you will the first time. Just take your time, read ALL the product descriptions etc.
[05:14] <delaney> anyone able to explain how to use amsn and have the fonts not be all jumbled together
[05:15] <tritium> chiefinnovator: you can do it!
[05:15] <jjohn> not on my machine it cant
[05:15] <detienn> prophet, yes VLC can view DVDs
[05:15] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: listen, if you get stuck with a tough question and no one's on, you can e-mail me at sam@invalidpage.com
[05:15] <avis> i'm having a panic attack because my amarok wont launch :(
[05:15] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, thanks, I'll probably come up with a lot of questions
[05:16] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: besides, once you do it once... from then on it'll be easy
[05:16] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: np
[05:16] <redcard> Holy crap.
[05:16] <redcard> Why doesn't ubuntu install gnome-art?
[05:16] <chiefinnovator> highphilosopher, Can I also run my final specs by you before I buy?  You can tell me if everything will work together?
[05:16] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: sure, glad to help
[05:16] <jjohn> chiefinnovater is that an open invite??
[05:16] <avis> chiefinnovator: a linux computer is not expensive
[05:16] <chiefinnovator> avis, why not?
[05:16] <SuperMiguel> does any one knows where can i get the mp3 plugins
[05:17] <tuesday> Which GUI do you all prefer? I've found KDE to be more looks than anything... XFCE is under-developed, blackbox is for developers, and enlightenment is a great idea, but to raw. I like gnome pretty well, however.
[05:17] <tritium> !mp3 SuperMiguel
[05:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp3 SuperMiguel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <negativecreep> hi all
[05:17] <prophet> seems like easy ubuntu installed the libdvdread3 alreayd
[05:17] <tritium> !mp3 > SuperMiguel
[05:17] <detienn> !ethernet
[05:17] <Crescendo> I overwrote some data, perhaps up to four times over, on an NTFS partition.  What would the best tool to recover this data be?
[05:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about ethernet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <negativecreep> I can't seem to find /proc/net/ipv4 in my system..
[05:17] <negativecreep> which modules do i have to load to have it there?
[05:17] <highphilosopher> !Generally
[05:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about Generally - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <negativecreep> i m running 2.6.15-23-686
[05:17] <negativecreep> ubuntu 6.06
[05:17] <highphilosopher> haha
[05:17] <redcard> tuesday: When I first got into linux, we didn't have kde or gnome.  But.. then I began to like KDE.  Gnome at the time was just a "KDE Sucks" type desktop environment.  Now, however, after having used a mac, I tend to prefer GNOME .. but there are kde apps that I run
[05:18] <detienn> !wpa
[05:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:18] <avis> processor ?  $100-$200 motherboard $50 ram $120 250 GB SATA $63  Geforce 6200 $40  Audigy value $40  case $30  pioneer dvd+-r/ram $40
[05:18] <negativecreep> redcard: can you help me man?
[05:18] <highphilosopher> ruesday: OS X
[05:18] <tuesday> I don't like KDE.
[05:18] <tuesday> KDE's like that girl that's too pretty, almost to the point where it makes her a bitch.
[05:18] <Dasnipa`> linux tolvolds doesnt like gnome
[05:18] <tritium> tuesday: easy there, cowboy
[05:18] <tuesday> All looks and no thought.
[05:18] <jjohn> sorry did not realise you were all so busy catch you later
[05:18] <negativecreep> ppl.../proc/net/ipv4 is missing...what to do?
[05:19] <tritium> jjohn: it's always busy, stick around
[05:19] <highphilosopher> !it
[05:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:19] <tuesday> tritium: I don't know too many 13- year olds that have a linux box...
[05:19] <highphilosopher> !that
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about that - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:19] <highphilosopher> I LOVE bots
[05:19] <tuesday> !%N
[05:19] <VitaminG> redcard: I like gnome for the same reason. reminds me of the good old OS 7.1 days.
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about %N - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:19] <tritium> tuesday: okay...where are you going with this?
[05:19] <zeppelin_> tuesday, nice words about kde ... :P
[05:20] <tuesday> Your remark was in regards to? My saying 'bitch' correct?
[05:20] <negativecreep> anyone who can help me out?
[05:20] <tritium> tuesday: when I was 13, there was no linux
[05:20] <tritium> tuesday: please don't repeat that
[05:20] <omaru> Hy, I'm trying to start apache2 but sends me this error "/usr/sbin/apache2: directory or file not found", anyone can help me to figure out what's happening here ?
[05:20] <tuesday> tritium, when you were 13 I couldn't care less.
[05:20] <tritium> tuesday: lighten up, dude
[05:20] <tuesday> omaru: updatedb - then locate apache2
[05:20] <negativecreep> hello..anyone?
[05:20] <tuesday> and symlink
[05:20] <Dasnipa`> avis, if you are looking to build a new computer id wait just a couple months i think that athlon will have to lower prices more to compete with intels new line... id give the entire price structure just a little bit more time and you can probably squeeze an additional 40$ out of your cost
[05:20] <highphilosopher> tuwsday: I know a few 13 year olds with linux boxes
[05:20] <negativecreep> tuesday: can u help with /proc/net/ipv4 missing on my ubuntu 6.06
[05:21] <negativecreep> ?
[05:21] <tritium> negativecreep: please stop repeating
[05:21] <bigfoot1> how do i read my floppy drive (a:)?
[05:21] <VitaminG> teusday: I first ran Linux when I was 12. didn't really like Debian, though. now here I am 4 years later running Ubuntu, based on debian
[05:21] <negativecreep> tritium: seriously running short of time..need urgent help.
[05:21] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, alright I'm going to go digest all the new info
[05:21] <chiefinnovator> tritium, highphilosopher, thanks for the help
[05:21] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: L
[05:21] <tritium> negativecreep: patience
[05:21] <highphilosopher> chiefinnovator: err K
[05:22] <tritium> chiefinnovator: good luck :)
[05:22] <bigfoot1> i put the floppy disk into the A: drive. now what do i do?
[05:22] <redcard> Oh, I did a package or two for Debian.
[05:22] <redcard> I quit when there were developers who were sending me death threats over wanting KDE.
[05:22] <Skooj> tritium, i went through that recoonfigure and uh.. it didnt work? went clear through it and it i get the xorg error thing again..
[05:22] <tuesday> negativecreep, I really have no idea.
[05:22] <avis> ok
[05:22] <negativecreep> damn...ubuntu sucks man.
[05:22] <tuesday> negativecreep, try tracking down which package provides it.
[05:22] <VitaminG> bigfoot: next, be thankful that you didn't cheap out on your computer and leave out the floppy drive.
[05:22] <tuesday> Ubuntu rox my sox.
[05:23] <tuesday> I really am glad that Ubuntu is doing so well.
[05:23] <tritium> negativecreep: what's the problem?  lighten up...
[05:23] <NiteWolf> ubuntu is great
[05:23] <tuesday> I ordered CD's a while ago (hoary) and didn't enjoy it too much
[05:23] <avis> anyone know how to set the GPG pubkey to kubuntu.org repository ?
[05:23] <negativecreep> tritium: there is no proc/net/ipv4
[05:23] <detienn> ubuntu isn't working for me :((
[05:23] <tritium> negativecreep: so what?
[05:23] <bigfoot1> VitaminG:  what are you talking about?
[05:23] <crimsun> avis: that's listed on kubuntu.org
[05:23] <tuesday> But now that my understanding has deepened I've been dropping the install CD in every system I come into contact with.
[05:23] <negativecreep> tritium: i need it to change parameters
[05:24] <tuesday> negativecreep, find ivp4
[05:24] <tuesday> ipv4
[05:24] <tuesday> and symlink
[05:24] <redcard> tuesday: Ubuntu seriously has reversed my opinion on linux
[05:24] <tritium> negativecreep: that hardly makes it suck.
[05:24] <portalfire> sup all. i installed vncserver on ubuntu (because vino-server wasnt working) and i get a blank x windows environment. no desktop] 
[05:24] <negativecreep> tuesday: how?
[05:24] <portalfire> what can i do?
[05:24] <negativecreep> find ipv4 where?
[05:24] <tuesday> This system gave me a really terrible time with my Linksys wmp54g PCI card.
[05:24] <tuesday> But I fixed that today.
[05:24] <bimberi> with a symlink?
[05:25] <bimberi> ;)
[05:25] <b14ck73425> what is a good program for burning cds?
[05:25] <negativecreep> ok i have run a find...lets see
[05:25] <redcard> b14ck73425: k3b
[05:25] <tuesday> negativecreep, 'updatedb' and then 'locate /ipv4/' and then 'ls blah blah'
[05:25] <VitaminG> gnomebaker for gnome, k3b for KDE
[05:25] <bigfoot1> how do i mount floppy drive?
[05:25] <tuesday> I do like k3b
[05:25] <tuesday> very much
[05:25] <negativecreep> thnx tuesday lemme try that
[05:25] <b14ck73425> can it burn mp3
[05:25] <tuesday> but for some reason it won't burn mp3's (or wouldn't, I'm sure it's a decoder problem)
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds how can i fix that
[05:26] <VitaminG> I've honestly never used k3b.
[05:26] <tuesday> negativecreep, look up a tutorial on symlinking after you've found the file
[05:26] <skavenge> tuesday: you have to install one extra lib for mp3 support
[05:26] <VitaminG> does k3b have VCD capabilities?
[05:26] <negativecreep> tuesday: /usr/include/linux/netfilter_ipv4
[05:26] <negativecreep> symlink to this dir?
[05:26] <tuesday> skavenge, I figured as much.
[05:26] <tuesday> no you need to find the folder ipv4
[05:26] <tritium> !enter > tuesday
[05:27] <negativecreep> tuesday: found none
[05:27] <tuesday> negativecreep, I do not know them. Look for the package that includes ipv4, or post something on the forums.
[05:27] <negativecreep> is it supposed to be in my /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net?
[05:27] <Skooj> tritium, i went through that recoonfigure and uh.. it didnt work? went clear through it and it i get the xorg error thing again..
[05:28] <negativecreep> tuesday: i have an ipv4 folder in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/
[05:28] <VitaminG> tuesday: can k3b burn VCDs
[05:28] <tuesday> tritium, You're getting quite annoying. Just let me chat in peace. My abuse of the enter key is hurting noone.
[05:28] <tuesday> VitaminG, I believe so, but It's been a while since I've used k3b.
[05:28] <tritium> tuesday: keep the spam in the channel down please
[05:28] <tuesday> tritium, your warnings are making the spam in here worse.
[05:28] <tokenbad> ok I can't access my konsole...it crashes everytime try to load it...
[05:29] <tokenbad> also I need to mount my drives in my fstab
[05:29] <negativecreep> tritium: didnt help..:(
[05:29] <VitaminG> who's spamming?
[05:29] <varsendaggr> tokenbad, is there anyother consoel that you have installed?
[05:30] <tritium> negativecreep: you're trying to "echo 1 /proc/net/ipv4" ?
[05:30] <tokenbad> varsendaggr, no..this is clean install
[05:30] <b14ck73425> i have mp3 format music how can i convert and burn the files
[05:30] <BioticPro> How do I search the repositories online?
[05:30] <Flannel> BioticPro: there's packages.ubuntu.com, but apt is 'online' too
[05:30] <BioVorE> mplayer can convert anything with audio and give you a .wav file to burn
[05:30] <tritium> !mp3 > b14ck73425
[05:30] <highphilosopher> toeknbad: you can always hit ctrl-alt f2 to goto another term, then ctrl-alt f7 to get back
[05:30] <VitaminG> b14ck73425: what do you want to convert them to?
[05:30] <negativecreep> tritium: i am trying to echo "1" > /proc/net/ipv4/ip_forward only to discover that there is no ipv4 folder there.
[05:30] <b14ck73425> i want to be able to burn them
[05:31] <b14ck73425> on an audio cd
[05:31] <tritium> negativecreep: gotcha, one moment
[05:31] <negativecreep> tritium: i seem to be missing some module.
[05:31] <negativecreep> tritium: k
[05:32] <BioticPro> Flannel: packages.ubuntu.com is what I wanted, thx
[05:32] <Skooj> anyhow.. err.. yea.. i might just use my onboard
[05:32] <VitaminG> for mp3's to work, just install all the gstreamer 0.10 packages
[05:33] <VitaminG> except documentation and source packages
[05:33] <helpplz> I dont get any sound in quake3.. how can I get the sound to work?
[05:33] <b14ck73425> where can i get them
[05:33] <cimon> anybody know why the setiathome package has such trouble connecting...?
[05:33] <whitesuit> what command can i use to specify the current directory i'm in? like ~ works for my home
[05:34] <VitaminG> synaptic
[05:34] <highphilosopher> helpplz: does your sound work in other programs?
[05:34] <helpplz> highphilosopher: yes
[05:34] <negativecreep> tritium: i really appreciate your help man...
[05:34] <Flannel> whitesuit: you mean to tell you which directory? or what?  'pwd' will print your current path (Print Working Directory)
[05:34] <tritium> negativecreep: no worries...still looking
[05:34] <highphilosopher> helpplz: In the Quake 3 menu, there should be a sound setting, be sure it is pointing to the proper sound server you have installed
[05:34] <negativecreep> tritium: thnx mate....but its weird.
[05:35] <negativecreep> tritium: check this..
[05:35] <negativecreep> xaeem@xaeem:/tmp$ sudo sysctl -p
[05:35] <negativecreep> dev.cdrom.lock = 0
[05:35] <Skooj> hmm.. ill brb, trying something
[05:35] <negativecreep> tritium: there is just one entry showing up.
[05:36] <tritium> negativecreep: okay, please don't paste, though
[05:36] <whitesuit> Flannel: no, an abbreviation, like ~ is for home and - is for last directory
[05:36] <cimon> "Setting up setiathome (3.08-4) ...
[05:36] <cimon> setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar not found in /tmp.
[05:36] <cimon> --06:31:17--  ftp://alien.ssl.berkeley.edu/pub/setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar
[05:36] <cimon>            => `/tmp/fileZr47Bb'
[05:36] <cimon> Resolving alien.ssl.berkeley.edu... 128.32.18.176
[05:36] <cimon> Connecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu|128.32.18.176|:21... failed: Connection timed out.
[05:36] <helpplz> highphilosopher: proper sound server? in menue all I see is to change the sound volume and the quality
[05:36] <cimon> Retrying.
[05:36] <negativecreep> tritium: sorry for that
[05:36] <Flannel> whitesuit: er, .. is parent directory.  Believe those are the shortcuts
[05:36] <cimon> "
[05:36] <Flannel> cimon: don't paste in here please
[05:36] <highphilosopher> whitesuit: is it . ?
[05:36] <helpplz> highphilosopher: menu*
[05:37] <highphilosopher> helpplz: ok, hang on just a sec
[05:37] <Flannel> whitesuit: oh, the current one? yeah, . is current one, ./ is usually how it's used
[05:37] <cimon> Flannel: sorry, I thought that might have been helpful in diagnosing my problem. willco...
[05:37] <helpplz> highphilosopher: okay
[05:37] <Flannel> !paste
[05:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:37] <whitesuit> highphilosopher: yes, thats it, thank you
[05:37] <Flannel> cimon: you can use that to paste lots of stuffs
[05:37] <tritium> negativecreep: sorry, dealing with a disgruntled troll right now
[05:37] <cimon> Flannel, I do knw the point you are making, and it is good.
[05:38] <_gus_> hi guys
[05:38] <cello_rasp> can anyone do `ls -l /var/` and tell me what the permissions of www should be?
[05:38] <majd> hey
[05:38] <majd> what ports does samba use?
[05:38] <_gus_> im trying to do a screencast with ffmpeg
[05:38] <negativecreep> tritium: its ok...
[05:38] <_gus_> and i get: x11: No such file or directory
[05:38] <Flannel> cello_rasp: drwxr-xr-x  10 www-data www-data  4096 2006-07-24 01:53 www
[05:38] <highphilosopher> helpplz: do you have ALSA installed?
[05:39] <_gus_> how do i know where my display is located ?
[05:39] <Skooj> tritium, nm i just got it working on my nvidia pci :)
[05:39] <highphilosopher> _gus_: in what?
[05:39] <_gus_> im using this line: ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1280x1024 test.avi
[05:39] <cello_rasp> Flannel: www-data is that default?
[05:40] <tritium> Skooj: good deal.  :)
[05:40] <helpplz> highphilosopher: in kinfocenter it sais also emulation
[05:40] <_gus_> highphilosopher, the file, shouldnt be something like /dev/video0 ?
[05:40] <Flannel> cello_rasp: yep.  www-data owns the apache directory, you can change the username/group in your apache config file though
[05:40] <_gus_> but i dont have that one :P
[05:40] <zazeem> can some one please help me with port forwarding bit tornado?
[05:41] <highphilosopher> _gus_: what for?
[05:41] <zazeem> ?
[05:41] <negativecreep> tritium: my bad.../proc/sys/net/ipv4 is the correct path
[05:41] <negativecreep> thnx man..leaving for college
[05:41] <negativecreep> bye
[05:41] <highphilosopher> helpplz: I think your issue is that you need to install alsa
[05:41] <zazeem> can some one please help me with port forwarding bit tornado?
[05:41] <helpplz> highphilosopher: how may I go about doint that?
[05:41] <_gus_> highphilosopher, doing a screencast ?
[05:41] <Skooj> thanks for the help tritium :)
[05:42] <highphilosopher> helpplz: This link has a step-by-step. http://knowledge76.com/index.php/ALSA_1.0.10_Setup_on_Ubuntu_Breezy
[05:42] <highphilosopher> helpplz: but I have never done this before.
[05:42] <tritium> Skooj: you did it all yourself, buddy :)
[05:42] <winman> hello people, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what these applet like things are on the desktop (monitors) http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/gnome214/135
[05:43] <winman> I mean, how can I get them
[05:43] <cello_rasp> Flannel can you do me another favour and tell me the permissions of /var/www/apache2-default assuming you have one?
[05:43] <helpplz> highphilosopher: you probably have more linux then I ever have ;)
[05:43] <skavenge> anyway to get gkrellm to run in systray vs taskbar?
[05:43] <helpplz> highphilosopher: i'll see what I can do <3 thanks for the help
[05:43] <Skooj> ok, now here's the next thing, how do i update from 5.1 to 6.06?
[05:43] <highphilosopher> helpplz: np
[05:44] <Flannel> cello_rasp: drwxrwxr-x  2 root       root       4096 2006-01-14 15:22 apache2-default  (not completely sure that's default though)
[05:44] <zazeem> can some one please help me with port forwarding bit tornado? :
[05:44] <highphilosopher> _gus_: do you have any /dev/ listing for screenx or monx?
[05:44] <zazeem> :(
[05:44] <Bonez> Skooj, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:44] <Skooj> thx bonez
[05:44] <_gus_> highphilosopher, let me look
[05:44] <cello_rasp> Flannel thanks. i really messed up things XD
[05:45] <Flannel> cello_rasp: you can always just reinstall ;)
[05:45] <cello_rasp> time to fix mysql AGAIN
[05:45] <highphilosopher> zazeem: port forwarding through a router?
[05:45] <_gus_> highphilosopher, nop
[05:45] <rob_p> zazeem:  http://www.portforward.com/cportsnotes/bittornado/BitTornado.htm
[05:45] <tritium> !rules > uBANtu
[05:45] <cello_rasp> Flannel: if only. next time I'll install the dev LAMP on VMware >:(
[05:46] <highphilosopher> _gus_:  hang on 1 sec...
[05:46] <iiiears> winman - not an answer to your question but take a look at "torsmo"
[05:46] <_gus_> highphilosopher, sure mate
[05:46] <winman> iiiears, alright great ..:)
[05:46] <zazeem> highphilospher: yes through a linksys befsr41
[05:46] <Flannel> cello_rasp: er, why can't you?  Just backup stuff, remove it all with --purge, then reinstall as per the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:47] <zazeem> rob_p: i have been there the tornado i have doesnt look the same
[05:47] <winman> iiiears, looks good :)
[05:47] <cello_rasp> Flannel: because reinstalling takes too long
[05:47] <rob_p> zazeem:  All you need to know is the ports it uses.  Then configure your Linksys to forward those ports to the wanted host.
[05:48] <zazeem> how do i know the ports?
[05:48] <Flannel> cello_rasp: just reinstalling apache et al, not ubuntu.  It'll take like... five minutes (plus download).  Assuming you've backed up your data files and stuff.
[05:48] <zazeem> rob_p: how do i know the ports?
[05:48] <rob_p> zazeem:  What do you have it configured to use?  Is there not a configuration for it that you can check?
[05:48] <zazeem> there is a preferences
[05:48] <zazeem> what is a good port?
[05:49] <zazeem> i need 2
[05:49] <cello_rasp> Flannel: I assume you're not using ubuntu since I have purged the LAMP install only to have the mysql DB and other thing persist
[05:49] <zazeem> it says port range ----- and then to ------
[05:49] <zazeem> what is good?
[05:49] <goatmale> 0 to a billion ;)
[05:49] <cello_rasp> according to the mysql people there is something rather wrong about the LAMP implementatin in debian and ubuntu
[05:49] <SuperMiguel> how can i install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[05:49] <SuperMiguel> what should i write
[05:50] <rob_p> zazeem:  Well, I'd say something above 1024.
[05:50] <goatmale> sudo apt-get install and then that stuff
[05:50] <zazeem> rob_p: so 1024 to ?
[05:50] <rocketman768> anybody ever seen, "modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory" during bootup?
[05:50] <Flannel> cello_rasp: I am using ubuntu, --purge should remove everything cleanly.
[05:51] <goatmale> did you get that supermiguel? do sudo apt-get install and then the package.
[05:51] <highphilosopher> helpplz: ok, all I can find is that erminals use serial port /dev/ entries
[05:51] <highphilosopher> helpplz: you might look for a /dev/output folder
[05:51] <Flannel> cello_rasp: er, I suppose maybe not the databases, you might have to remove those, but I don't think you'd need to remove them anyway, they should just drop back in cleanly
[05:51] <goatmale> you might have to do sudo apt-get update first.
[05:51] <zazeem> rob_p: so 1024 to ? what would you recomend? im completey port clueless
[05:51] <rob_p> zazeem:  Something *above* port 1024.  Typically it will be a high port range though.  You could use anything, really.
[05:52] <zazeem> rob_p: so would 1024 throug 4444 be good?
[05:52] <helpplz> highphilosopher: I have a dev folder but no output folder in there.. only an input one and others
[05:52] <rob_p> zazeem:  How about the default of 6881 to whatever?  Sounds reasonable to me...
[05:52] <varsendaggr> hey how do i make a symbolic link to launch a program that has a static lib
[05:53] <zazeem> rob_p: the tornado default is 10000 to 60000
[05:53] <highphilosopher> helpplz: sorry I could not be more help. I am not at home, so no ubuntu box here right now
[05:53] <zazeem> rob_p: but wont that make me vulnerable?
[05:53] <varsendaggr> what do i need to have for a shell script?
[05:53] <rob_p> zazeem:  What's important is that you then forward the *same* ports on your Linksys, to the host you want.
[05:53] <Skooj> erm.. k here's another question, why can't i connect to the internet? it's through a (wireless) ethernet adapter, but i connect quickly to my other computers, and the router itself (and i mean QUICKLY) but I can't get to anywhere on the internet (apt-get or anything)
[05:53] <BioVorE> varsendaggr: a shell
[05:53] <varsendaggr> in the text
[05:53] <helpplz> highphilosopher: it's okay.. maybe when im done installing also maybe would work :)
[05:53] <varsendaggr> the shebang
[05:54] <goatmale> skooj what adapter?
[05:54] <zazeem> rob_p: can you please guide me if i read you what my router setting are? i have a port triggering and pot range thing
[05:54] <highphilosopher> helpplz: oh crap... sry sent messages to wrong person
[05:54] <tritium> Skooj: dsl/cable?
[05:54] <highphilosopher> _gus_: sorry about that
[05:54] <varsendaggr> #sh  something
[05:54] <Skooj> uh, it's an xbox thingy. but it connects through ethernet so it works just as if it was ethernet, and uh, cable..
[05:54] <helpplz> highphilosopher: with messages?
[05:54] <Skooj> err, dsl it's dsl sorry
[05:54] <goatmale> xbox..
[05:54] <highphilosopher> helpplz: ???
[05:54] <tritium> Skooj: Qwest?  Actiontec modem?
[05:54] <Skooj> yes tritium..
[05:54] <_gus_> highphilosopher, im starting to think i dont have a monitor :P
[05:55] <goatmale> I don't know if they have drivers on that to connect to the internet, does it work with windows?
[05:55] <highphilosopher> _gus_: lol. Ok, It's got to be in there somewhere.
[05:55] <tritium> Skooj: figures...the dhcp server in that Actiontec is broken.  We need to account for taht
[05:55] <tritium> that
[05:55] <helpplz> highphilosopher: you said you sent messages to wrong person.. with messages? installing also since I use also emulation or about the dev/output?
[05:55] <faraday> hey, everyone I got a problem running any java app such as limewire.
[05:55] <highphilosopher> helpplz: the /dev/output messages
[05:55] <Skooj> goatmale, i just setup the info into the adapter on my xbox and it'll work on ANYTHING
[05:55] <rob_p> zazeem:  No, I'd rather not.  I don't mean that in an offensive way, but no.  This channel is for ubuntu related support.  Good luck though.
[05:55] <helpplz> highphilosopher: oh okay
[05:55] <highphilosopher> _gus_ brb switching systems
[05:55] <Skooj> so err, tritium, it wont work right then?
[05:55] <varsendaggr> Skooj, xboxconnect is cool
[05:55] <faraday> this is the error I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d18835
[05:56] <tritium> Skooj: you'll need this in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf:  supersede domain-name-servers 205.171.3.65, 205.171.2.65
[05:56] <kazukisan> I am on Ubuntu Dapper, i have a archos Jukebox Studio 20, with rockbox installed, when i connect with usb i cant mount it and dmesg says this -> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3546
[05:56] <zazeem> rob_p: well do i set the port range start and end same as in tornado?
[05:56] <Skooj> k, just anywhere tritium?
[05:56] <goatmale> kazukisan rockbox was awesome when I had my archos
[05:56] <tritium> Skooj: you may have other DNS servers.  Yes, anywhere is goo
[05:56] <tritium> good even ;)
[05:56] <dsterry_> i wonder why dapper doesnt' have xchat or xirc installed by default
[05:56] <Skooj> ok
[05:56] <kazukisan> goatmale: did you get it to work on linux ?
[05:56] <Skooj> thanks i'll go put that in, will it work without a reboot or what?
[05:56] <goatmale> nope.. my archos broke :(
[05:56] <cello_rasp> Flannel: can you possibly PM me.. i need some help purging the MySQL db before i start again
[05:56] <rob_p> zazeem:  If you want all the ports forwarded then, yes.
[05:57] <tritium> Skooj: what DNS servers do you have now in /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:57] <Skooj> erm hol on i'll go check
[05:57] <varsendaggr> tritium, are you helping Skooj  get xbox connect working?
[05:57] <goatmale> the rockbox people have a nice IRC
[05:57] <goatmale> go check them out.
[05:57] <kazukisan> im there
[05:57] <tritium> varsendaggr: no, Actiontec DSL modem dhcp server bug
[05:57] <_gus_> hmm
[05:57] <kazukisan> they are asleep
[05:57] <weex> voice
[05:57] <_gus_> /dev/dsp maybe
[05:57] <varsendaggr> tritium,      i have that
[05:58] <tritium> varsendaggr: do you have DNS issues/slowness?
[05:58] <_gus_> nop
[05:58] <varsendaggr> i have to do a script   to even connnect
[05:58] <tritium> varsendaggr: you just need to supersede domain-name-servers 205.171.3.65, 205.171.2.65 in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:58] <Flannel> cello_rasp: you might actually have better luck at #mysql, I'm nowhere near a guru ;)
[05:59] <varsendaggr> i have to manually change the nameserver to 4.2.2.1
[05:59] <cello_rasp> ah well.. thanks! :)
[05:59] <tritium> varsendaggr: the Actiontec sets itself up as the 1st DNS server, and it bogs down
[05:59] <tritium> varsendaggr: yes, you may have different DNS servers.  Those 2 are for Qwest
[05:59] <varsendaggr> hmm    yeah that is what i do
[05:59] <varsendaggr> qwest too
[05:59] <varsendaggr> so what should i do ?
[06:00] <tritium> varsendaggr: see above for dhclient.conf
[06:00] <varsendaggr> is superseed somehting i need to add
[06:00] <DR_K13> http://x005.uploaderx.net/x/monkeyKnifeFight.jpg
[06:01] <Skooj> tritium, before editing i have 192.168.0.1 and 205.171.3.65
[06:01] <buzzed> looking for a new laptop...
[06:01] <buzzed> anyone want to talk me into a macbook?
[06:01] <buzzed> leaning toward a thinkpad
[06:02] <buzzed> for ubuntu
[06:02] <varsendaggr> buzzed, i am a big fan of the thinkpad
[06:02] <varsendaggr> very tough
[06:02] <Skooj> i'll go put in the others now tritium..
[06:02] <highphilosopher> _GUS_: FOUND IT! it's /dev/console
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: They do work quite nicely.  I'm skeptical about what will happen as things transfer more and more into Lenovo's hands and away from the old friend of IBM, but for now things are okay and the machine itself is great.
[06:03] <_gus_> highphilosopher, hmmm
[06:03] <highphilosopher> _gus_: l8tr
[06:03] <ttyfscker> i got xfce lookin pretty good on here with transparancy :)
[06:04] <ttyfscker> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=51141056544c596a745f50&p=screen
[06:04] <ttyfscker> check it out
[06:04] <_gus_> if someone is fighting with the same
[06:04] <sasquatch> hey, is there a way to run gnome and KDE at the same time?
[06:04] <_gus_> that didn work :P
[06:04] <varsendaggr> tritium, how do i reset the server so that it works right?
[06:04] <buzzed> i finally fix my metacity slow start issue
[06:05] <goatmale> how do I change my resolution settings?
[06:05] <diese> hello all i am trying to remove ubuntu, from my computer, how would i get rid of grub and fix my mbr
[06:05] <buzzed> removed my gnome/session file
[06:05] <Skooj> k, tritium i set it up and it doesnt seem to work, do i need to reboot?
[06:05] <buzzed> any thoughts on the t60's?
[06:06] <tritium> Skooj: no, you need to bring down the interface, and then bring it back up, or at least re-run dhclient on it
[06:06] <goatmale> how do I change my resolution settings?
[06:06] <tritium> best just to bring it down and back up, Skooj
[06:06] <Flannel> !tell goatmale about resolution
[06:06] <Skooj> err, how do i do that?
[06:06] <Flannel> diese: easiest way to install something else.
[06:06] <tritium> Skooj: sudo ifdown eth0, for example, then sudo ifup eth0
[06:06] <skavenge> can anyone help with NAT? I've got ICS turned on through firestarter, machines can ping each other but no outward inet from the secondary box? Even a good howto would be great
[06:06] <danf_1979> diese fdisk /mbr
[06:06] <goatmale> thanks
[06:06] <danf_1979> from a msdos console
[06:07] <diese> danf_1979: do i do this in windows or ubuntu?
[06:07] <Skooj> so err.. just like that?
[06:07] <danf_1979> windows, it will erase grub from the master boot record. You will not have acces to ubuntu!
[06:07] <Flannel> diese: windows
[06:07] <_gus_> well bye bye guys
[06:07] <rob_p> skavenge:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/
[06:08] <buzzed> what would be the best multi os solution dual boot, vmware, paralells?
[06:08] <danf_1979> diese, first time in linux?
[06:08] <skavenge> rob_p: this is two ubuntu boxes, no windows, this howto will work?
[06:08] <buzzed> i like to use ubuntu i need to use XP...
[06:08] <diese> danf_1979: no, just never removed it before, i have another old computer im going to put linux on
[06:09] <tritium> Skooj: yes
[06:09] <rob_p> skavenge:  Networking is networking!  Yes, it'll work.
[06:09] <diese> danf_1979 so i just open cmd in windows and type fdisk /mbr?
[06:09] <buzzed> my employer uses windows specific apps... like gotomeeting
[06:09] <tritium> buzzed: personal preference
[06:09] <skavenge> rob_p: thanks much i will follow this
[06:09] <zymorph> what command do I use to unregister a service?
[06:09] <buzzed> ya , personal... preference...
[06:10] <danf_1979> uhm, I think so... or you can do so with a msdos boot disk. I dont know. I haven't use windows since several years
[06:10] <Flannel> buzzed: if I were you, I'd just install them next to each other.  You proably don't need to mess around with virtualizations
[06:10] <rob_p> skavenge:  The howto part of it is very generic to any NAT configuration.
[06:10] <buzzed> ok
[06:10] <zymorph> what command do I use to unregister a service?
[06:10] <diese> Flannel: do you know?
[06:11] <jml> hi
[06:12] <Skooj> erm tritium, didnt work?
[06:12] <Aus> hello
[06:12] <tritium> Skooj: no?  What's listed in /etc/resolv.conf now?
[06:12] <Flannel> diese: nope, you might try asking in ##windows
[06:12] <Skooj> hold on
[06:13] <foobear> trying to configure snd (cmipci) to enable joystick without disabling sound.
[06:13] <varsendaggr> hey how do i cli make a sym link from programA   to /usr/bin?
[06:13] <Skooj> tritium. no change :S
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> diese: you can boot a windows cd to a commmand prompt and fdisk /mbr
[06:13] <Aus> how can I disable dhcp?I though I've done it but not sure because it hanged, I've apt-get remove dhc* and changed /etc/network/interfaces, anything else?
[06:14] <jmichaelx> can anyone help me out on getting a broadcom wireless card working with ndiswrapper? i had the thing working well, but i had to reinstall, and now nothing i do is working... i am using kubuntu
[06:14] <foobear> varsendagger: ln -s /usr/bin ProgramA
[06:14] <diese> Jack_Sparrow: I don't have my windows cd...is there any other way
[06:14] <ic56> zymorph: "unregistering a service" is a concept that exists in Windows but not in unix.  You probably mean "shutdown a server and remove it from the booting sequence".  The answer depends on the server.
[06:15] <tritium> Skooj: did you edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf correctly?
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> diese: bootdisk.com
[06:15] <Skooj> tritium, i put the supersede domain-name-servers 205 etc etc at the bottom and saved it.. lemme go double check
[06:15] <varsendaggr> someone plese help me
[06:15] <foobear> varsendagger: but /usr/bin is a directory and ProgramA is file so make the link inside /usr/bin as superuser
[06:16] <tritium> Skooj: /query me, and we'll look at it together
[06:16] <varsendaggr> ahh that is it
[06:16] <varsendaggr> tritium, me to
[06:16] <foobear> varsendaggr: ln -s /usr/bin/ProgramA <path-to>/ProgramA
[06:16] <tritium> varsendaggr: you got it, or need more help
[06:16] <tritium> ?
[06:17] <varsendaggr> ln: creating symbolic link `blender' to `/usr/bin/blender2.42': File exists
[06:17] <Skooj> oi tritium, lemme register my nick real fast
[06:17] <tritium> Skooj: okay
[06:17] <varsendaggr> i don't know,   i'll need to restart.
[06:18] <diese> Jack_Sparrow, which one do i delete
[06:18] <diese> i mean download*
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> anything with fdisk
[06:18] <foobear> varsendaggr: Well, is there already a file or sym-link in /usr/bin of the name you're trying to create a new sym-link?  If so, you'll have to do something about that first.
[06:18] <diese> so it doesn't matter what version of windows it says
[06:19] <foobear> Anyone familiar with configuring sound cards for ALSA here?
[06:19] <diese> Jack_Sparrow: i don't mean to be such a pain, but could you go to that website and tell me what to get cuzz i have no clue what im doing
[06:20] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?
[06:20] <varsendaggr> foobear, maybe
[06:20] <weex> i want to pipe irc to festival, what's a good irc client for that?
[06:21] <foobear> varsendaggr, why don't you check?  `ls -l /usr/bin/blen*
[06:21] <varsendaggr> i removed the sym link
[06:22] <varsendaggr> ak i have no idea
[06:22] <Bonez> i've had an absolute of a day
[06:23] <foobear> not sure why you're trying to create a symlink for blender in /usr/bin.  If you've got blender installed correctly there will already be an executable there for you.,,
[06:23] <varsendaggr> ln: creating symbolic link `/home/varsendagger/Desktop/Desk/blender-2.42-linux-glibc232-py24-i386-static/blender' to `/usr/bin/blender2.42': File exists
[06:23] <backwards> an any one walk me through a MBR error?
[06:23] <jmichaelx> can anyone help me out on getting a broadcom wireless card working with ndiswrapper? i had the thing working well, but i had to reinstall, and now nothing i do is working... i am using kubuntu
[06:23] <varsendaggr> foobear, this is the newest blender
[06:23] <Bonez> How do I install the mac/kde type "chooser" for gnome?
[06:23] <_atomic> hello
[06:23] <_atomic> fun
[06:23] <dEn__> whats a linux equivalent of kaza or bear share. a file sharing software
[06:24] <varsendaggr> gift
[06:24] <varsendaggr> dEn__,
[06:24] <jmichaelx> frostwire
[06:24] <Camden> how do you type accents?
[06:24] <varsendaggr> foobear, anyideas?
[06:24] <foobear> one sec..
[06:25] <dEn__> yes
[06:25] <dEn__> varsendaggr:  any idea
[06:25] <mikebot> could someone help me with installing ubuntu?
[06:25] <kazukisan> I am on Ubuntu Dapper, i have a archos Jukebox Studio 20, with rockbox installed, when i connect with usb i cant mount it and dmesg says this -> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3546
[06:25] <Camden> what point r u up to?
[06:25] <foobear> varsendaggr: so you're installing from source, not a .deb package, yes?
[06:25] <mikebot> Camden: me?
[06:26] <Camden> yes
[06:26] <mikebot> Camden: Well, when I boot from CD, and choose from the list to install, I get like the loading thig, then I get a bunch of errors
[06:26] <mikebot> I have them written down
[06:26] <varsendaggr> foobear, it is a ./blender   i cd to the dir and run it from there
[06:27] <CanadaGradeEh> Yes, finally have Dapper
[06:27] <Camden> i have had that problem before
[06:27] <CanadaGradeEh> Quick XMMS question: Can I set my own custom hotkeys?
[06:27] <Camden> sometimes i just try it again
[06:27] <mikebot> Camden: i've tried twice
[06:27] <Camden> is it a labtop?
[06:27] <tokenbad> ok ran into a problem....I boot up and my panal don't show like it is supposed to...or I have it..then open a window off of it..and shrink that window back down...then my panel is gone...any idea how to fix this?
[06:27] <Camden> laptop
[06:27] <mikebot> no, desktop
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> diese: any of the windows oem disks
[06:28] <Camden> could be a bad cd
[06:28] <foobear> varsendaggr: don't understand u.  The latest .deb package for Ubuntu is 2.41
[06:28] <jbrimble> Where can I read about installing Windows programs with wine?
[06:28] <Camden> did you try the option to check the cd?
[06:28] <mikebot> no
[06:28] <mikebot> i don't think so
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jbrimble:  #wine
[06:28] <mikebot> do i boot from cd to try that?
[06:28] <Camden> yes
[06:28] <foobear> varsendaggr: so if you're trying to install 2.42, where'd you get it from?
[06:28] <mikebot> ok, i will try that
[06:28] <mikebot> and then try installing again
[06:28] <mikebot> i'll be back
[06:28] <Camden> it is one of the options
[06:28] <jbrimble> nobody's there
[06:28] <varsendaggr> blender.org
[06:28] <Camden> while it is booting
[06:28] <mikebot> thanks for the help
[06:29] <mikebot> brb
[06:29] <mikebot> ok
[06:29] <Camden> you have to watch carefully while it is booting
[06:29] <TokenBad> ok ran into a problem....I boot up and my panal don't show like it is supposed to...or I have it..then open a window off of it..and shrink that window back down...then my panel is gone...any idea how to fix this?
[06:30] <Camden> it's a new install?
[06:30] <varsendaggr> i can just run it from the command but   i want to symlink to the thing   but i think i have it figured out
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[06:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:30] <portalfire> does anyone know how to setup the default desktop for vncserver
[06:30] <portalfire> mine comes up with a blank x server screen (x cursor,etc)
[06:31] <TokenBad> why is the panel in the new kubuntu disappering?
[06:31] <foobear> varsendaggr:  well first you'll need to unistall the official Ubuntu release with something like Synaptic, then try to compile the source you got from blender.org (assuming its source and not a binary), and compile the source via the directions most likely in a README somewhere in the top level of the source.
[06:31] <winman> my desktop has suddenly gone all blank, no icons no nothing ... is there a way to recover?
[06:31] <pussfeller> !restricted
[06:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <liquidten2> winman: Is nautilus running
[06:31] <bruenig> winman, no panels?
[06:32] <TokenBad> no panels here
[06:32] <TokenBad> and no icons
[06:32] <winman> panels are there ...just nothing on the desktop ..
[06:32] <varsendaggr> foobear, i have a completly different question.
[06:32] <liquidten2> winman: run nautilus
[06:32] <CanadaGradeEh> Anyone?
[06:32] <winman> liquidten2, ok
[06:32] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[06:32] <TokenBad> I can't get my console to load either
[06:32] <computer13137> Hello.
[06:32] <varsendaggr> how do i setup a script that would be run in a shell
[06:32] <varsendaggr> ie export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[06:32] <CanadaGradeEh> I've tried but I can't figure out how to set my own custom hotkeys for XMMS. Is it possible?
[06:33] <computer13137> I have just setup MySQL 4.0.24 on my server, and I would like to set a root password for MySQL to "thispass".  How do I do it?
[06:33] <varsendaggr> i want to run that right before i run blender
[06:33] <tritium> varsendaggr: what's your status with the Actiontec?
[06:33] <_nano_> Hello, I had an original installation of ubuntu. I have made another installation of ubuntu in a separate partition for experimentation and stuff. Which grub menu.lst should I edit so that I can ahve the original ubuntu listed on the top?
[06:34] <bruenig> CanadaGradeEh, there is a program called xbindkeys and you can assign any command to any key or series of keys, if you can figure out what the shortcuts would be on the command line you could use that, probably a bit difficult though
[06:34] <foobear> varsendaggr: could put it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc assuming you're using bash.
[06:34] <winman> liquidten2, I see several instances of nautilus running, but some of them have this --no-desktop argument passed to them ..
[06:34] <foobear> varsendaggr: you're just trying to set up some system variables.  That's the easiest way to do that.
[06:34] <CanadaGradeEh> Bruenig: Thank you. I'll just deal with the default keys for now until I get other priorities in order :)
[06:34] <foobear> varsendaggr: Ah...
[06:35] <varsendaggr> tritium, i am not sure yet
[06:35] <varsendaggr> foobear, thanks
[06:35] <tritium> varsendaggr: okay...let me know
[06:35] <CanadaGradeEh> Another question concerning hotkeys: My media keys on my keyboard.
[06:35] <CanadaGradeEh> When I push the up/down volume buttons, a little notification on the screen shows me that I am indeed turning my volume up and down. However, the volume doesn't actually change!
[06:35] <InvisiblePinkUni> what is the tortoisesvn equivalent in ubuntu for SVN GUI?
[06:35] <TokenBad> no panels here
[06:35] <TokenBad> and no icons
[06:35] <Camden> no one knows how to type accents?
[06:35] <TokenBad> I can't get my console to load either
[06:36] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu tell me about tortoise
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about tortoise - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:36] <varsendaggr> ok....  what do i add to the top of a text file so that it knows that it needs to run whatever is in the file as a shell script
[06:36] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu tell me about svn
[06:36] <_nano_> !grub
[06:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:36] <foobear> varsendaggr.  Create a script in a directory that's included in you $PATH.  If you call it "blender" that directory needs to exist in your path before /usr/bin does.  Best bet is to just call it something else like "myblender".  Should look something like this...
[06:36] <jon27kc> _nano_,  the experimental partition is bootable? Anyway, I'd assume you normally boot from the regular one, so change the list in there.  I also put a descriptive title to help me not get mixed up, too.
[06:36] <bruenig> CanadaGradeEh, that is the same for me, any graphical attempt to adjust sound does nothing. That little speaker that came on the panel by default didn't do anything
[06:37] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?
[06:37] <Camden> the keyboard volume control works for me
[06:38] <jon27kc> bruenig, I find opening kaffeine or vls always sets some volume control to zero. So I'm in the habit now of looking at alsamixer or aumix before I start playing.
[06:38] <bruenig> I bet if I used the default sound from my motherboard, it would work by I have an extra sound card because windows wouldn't detect the motherboard sound and I couldn't get a driver
[06:38] <_nano_> jon27kc, yeah that partition is bootable. I have two partitions of ubuntu now. I just want to change the order in which they appear on the boot list. I was confused as to where I should make the change. The older ubuntu installation or the newer one?
[06:38] <varsendaggr> foobear, thankyou
[06:39] <foobear> #!/bin/bash
[06:39] <foobear> export VAR=whatever-you-want-to-export
[06:39] <foobear> export VAR2=whatever-else-you-want-to-export
[06:39] <foobear> /usr/bin/blender
[06:39] <foobear> ;
[06:39] <jon27kc> _nano_, you might as well change both.  That's what I do. I had a situation where I was always booting from the wrong disk, and never figured it out. It seemed to fix itself... ???
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[06:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:39] <foobear> minus the ';' at the end, though that shouldn't hurt.
[06:40] <_nano_> jon27kc, the menu.lst in the older installation doesn't have any entries pointing to the newer installation :-S
[06:40] <CanadaGradeEh> Any idea how I can fix this? I'd like to control my volume via the keyboard
[06:40] <_nano_> jon27kc, in other words, the menu.lst is not dynamic?
[06:40] <CanadaGradeEh> Or will you recommend xbind again?
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> CanadaGradeEh, you should be able to map the keys
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> did you try that?
[06:41] <danf_1979> Is there any especial protocol to communicate with Ubuntu repositories? where can I find info about it?
[06:41] <foobear> Now, who knows anything about GD configuring sound drivers to use joysticks?
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> System, Preferences, Keyboard shortcuts
[06:41] <bruenig> CanadaGradeEh, i have found attempts to control sound at all within dapper doesn't work, I just adjust my speaker sound with the dial, thankfully it doesn't default by turning the sound off
[06:42] <jon27kc> _nano_, I'm not sure what you mean but I always hit spacebar if in doubt and choose what I want.  I also prune all those extra ones Grub puts in with every kernel change! Changing the ones I've already put in, if need be.
[06:42] <romulo> whats the edgy channel?
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> Yes, that was an annoying problem with 4.10
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> I just upgraded
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> romulo, ubuntu+1
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> No, I haven't tried  it nomasteryoda
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> Thank you
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> worked for me
[06:43] <_nano_> jon27kc, aah ok. really appreciate your response
[06:43] <jon27kc> _nano_, Thanks...I'm new here and uneasy about making mistakes. But glad I can help.
[06:44] <ic56> danf_1979: the ubuntu reporsitories are accessed by ftp
[06:44] <InvisiblePinkUni> any suggestions for a easy to use SVN GUI
[06:44] <Flannel> InvisiblePinkUni: SubCommander is one of the few usable ones
[06:45] <danf_1979> ok ic56, nice to know that. Do you know any developer resources regarding this topic?
[06:45] <InvisiblePinkUni> thanks Flannel
[06:45] <Flannel> romulo: #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <ic56> danf_1979: it's a well documented protocol.  What do you need to do?
[06:46] <Flannel> danf_1979: you can get them via ftp or http, there are RFCs all over the place
[06:46] <BrokenSegue> on bootup GRUB displays Ubuntu as an option 3 times, any reason why I can't delete the other two? (I haven't installed ubuntu twice)
[06:46] <jon27kc> BrokenSegue, I edit menu.lst extensively.  Grub duplicates entries almost every time there's a kernel update.
[06:47] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: it should be multiples of two, a regular, and a recovery mode for each kernel you have.  You can delete the other two, just make sure you delete the right other two ;)  You might also want to remove whatever old kernels you have
[06:47] <henzo> hi
[06:47] <henzo> hello
[06:47] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:right i ahve 6 in reality
[06:47] <danf_1979> ic56, search for files, only that till now
[06:47] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: did you reinstall ubuntu? or upgrade your kernel?
[06:47] <henzo> hey, someone can tell me were i find gnome themes???
[06:47] <henzo> please
[06:47] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:I don't remeber doing either (I'm a noob
[06:47] <BrokenSegue> )
[06:48] <jon27kc> BrokenSegue, I just look real carefully to make sure they're duplicates, then cut away. And I keep one old kernel just in case.
[06:48] <BrokenSegue> thanks all
[06:48] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: are all three the same kernel version?  Or do they have different numbers?
[06:48] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:haven't oppened the file yeet
[06:48] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: and, instead of just removing them out of grub, you can uninstall them, via apt/synaptic/etc.  That'll remove their grub entries automatically
[06:49] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:what will they be listed under in synaptic?
[06:49] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: linux-image-[versions] 
[06:49] <jon27kc> Flannel, the other day I did a regular upgrade (not dist-upgrade) and there were kernel changes and Grub put a new set of entries in menu.lst--duplicates, since this was not a new kernel.
[06:50] <Flannel> jon27kc: er, what?  Kernel changes  = new kernel, which means you have two kernels to choose from (and two kernels installed)
[06:50] <BrokenSegue> Look like i have...23, 25 and 26
[06:51] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: right, if 26 (which is probably what youre running now) is running fine for you, you're safe to delete the others
[06:51] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:Alright, thanks again
[06:51] <jon27kc> Flannel, Yes, sorry, I should have said they were minor changes--but that's a new kernel, right.  I pruned out the ones just before those.  Sorry for the confusion.
[06:52] <dandesousa> May anyone help me with enabling direct rendering?
[06:52] <Flannel> jon27kc: right, except, if you only deleted the grub entries, you still have them installed
[06:52] <jon27kc> Flannel, Yes, I know; I have so much disk space it doesn't bother me. Sometimes in an idle moment I go uninstall such things, though.
[06:54] <Camden> uninstalling is for more than just disk space
[06:55] <Camden> it can prevent problems sometimes
[06:55] <Camden> by making your system as simples as possible
[06:55] <Camden> and helps narrow down troubleshooting
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Camden:  never head that before..
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Also gives you other bootable options when you have a problem
[06:56] <Flannel> nah, not for old kernels, they just sit and take up disk space.
[06:56] <jon27kc> Camden, I see your point...but it can also be disastrous: I found out by experience more than once! :)
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> Jack_Sparrow, like keep'n the ship clean of the extra pirates =D
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> I love having extra distros to boot into
[06:56] <Camden> that is true... if it ain't broke...
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> esp since I manage a LUG
[06:56] <jns> How do I get Ubuntu working on a Macbook Pro?
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> cool .. fun
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> I installed it on an iMac
[06:57] <jns> With intel?
[06:57] <jon27kc> nomasteryoda, I was proud of myself when I figured out how to run two X sessions at once so I could help a friend over the phone.  I'm not very advanced!
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Thow them in the hold... never know when I may need them
[06:57] <skavenge> gkrellm is the spiff.
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> but had to do the old trick of installing breezy then upgrading to dapper
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> jon27kc, good for you
[06:57] <jon27kc> skavenge, I cannot live without gkrellm.  I feel lost and shaky.
[06:57] <jbrimble> Anyone know where the Wine Terminal is?
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> linux opens so many doors
[06:58] <skavenge> jon27kc: ive only just been enlightened and it is awesome.
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> and closes windows
[06:58] <jon27kc> nomasteryoda, and keeps me up so late...
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> llol
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> ya i get up at 6
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jbrimble: read some more... go to terminal and winecfg ?
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> jon27kc: like a bad drug habit
[06:58] <jon27kc> nomasteryoda, sorry for what I just caused to appear...this is so confusing sometimes...anyway I was about to say I get an average of four hours' sleep.
[06:59] <DJRipper> hello
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> recommended reading for the Mac is in this forum... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=133
[06:59] <cykon> jns:I don't think dapper supports macintel
[06:59] <cykon> ...but edgy should
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> ya me too jon27kc
[07:00] <crimsun> cykon: not officially but it works on some models.
[07:00] <DJRipper> orinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?
[07:00] <cykon> ah...yea i was only goin by the edgy future goals
[07:00] <cykon> :)
[07:00] <jns> cykon, I got it installed just kind of.. incorrectly.
[07:00] <jon27kc> Has anyone here had the pretty widespread problem of Nautilus crashing every time, on account of not being able to allocate a huge amount, almost 2GB, of memory?
[07:01] <DJRipper> orinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?
[07:01] <jns> When I selected windows on refit it sent me to linux
[07:01] <jns> I think I installed lilo incorrectly.
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jon27kc: No and I run it as gksudo way more than I should
[07:01] <jon27kc> Jack_Sparrow, maybe I should try that. ;)
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> I even placed a launcher for it on my top bar
[07:02] <DJRipper> orinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?
[07:02] <jon27kc> I don't use Nautilus regularly but like it sometimes. It will not run at all (at least with normal user) anymore.
[07:02] <DJRipper> can someone help me?
[07:03] <Flannel> jon27kc: did, sometime in the past, you run it with sudo?
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jon27kc: You have other problems
[07:03] <jon27kc> Flannel, I'm sure I did run it with sudo several times (out of necessity).
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Wrong
[07:03] <Flannel> jon27kc: then that's a likely cause of your problem.
[07:03] <Crescendo> I'm getting wretched quality from my onboard sound controller... I think it has something to do with my setting up of 3D sound.  What would be the best way to remedy this?  Is there a dpkg-reconfigure option?
[07:03] <Flannel> jon27kc: gksudo is how you run graphical apps as super user
[07:03] <foobear> DJRipper: What do you mean "work with"?
[07:04] <DJRipper> compadable to allow me to use the card
[07:04] <jon27kc> Flannel, Is that just a Gnome thing? I haven't had problems with non-Gnome apps as root.
[07:04] <tritium> DJRipper: are you sure the orinico module that comes with ubuntu's kernel won't work for you?
[07:04] <Ubuntu> hey dudes
[07:04] <DJRipper> im installin
[07:04] <Ubuntu> Did you know that computers are now capable of mind reading?
[07:04] <DJRipper> ive had the problem with an earlier buiuld
[07:04] <Camden> kewl
[07:05] <Flannel> jon27kc: gksudo sets up root things better, if you run graphical stuff with sudo, you can mess up some configs.  gksudo for gnome, kdesu for kde, gksu for xubuntu
[07:05] <Camden> what's on my mind, then?
[07:05] <Ubuntu> Anyone know how this is possible? http://revver.com/video/40311
[07:05] <Ubuntu> I didn't know a computer could do that...
[07:05] <foobear> Ubuntu: Big deal.  So is the NSA.
[07:05] <jon27kc> Flannel, That's totally new for me.  Thanks.  I will copy that and refer to it.
[07:05] <Ubuntu> lol foobear
[07:05] <Camden> nsa = ... (oops can't say it in this room)
[07:06] <DJRipper> lol
[07:06] <efuzzyone> i get aticonfig not found, what package should I install for it to be there?
[07:06] <Flannel> Ubuntu: because none of the cards in the latter screen are in the former.  But #ubuntu isn't the correct place for this, #ubuntu-offtopic is
[07:07] <Nekow42> How much of a performance increase will I see switching from the generic 386 kernel to the K7?
[07:07] <jon27kc> I read about the computer that responds to brain impulses. I'm sure it has promise but it's pretty elementary right now.
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jon27kc: A better approach is the seal team using sensors on the tongue to relay info to the divers
[07:08] <skavenge> jon27kc: not that elementry, they use them with parapalegics
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry for the off topic.. goodnight all
[07:08] <Crescendo> How would I go about enabling 5.1 channel audio on my audio controller, a three port setup... in Windows I would enable "Mic as Rear Out" option... ?
[07:08] <Flannel> Nekow42: well, 386 can't use any of the additional pipelines
[07:09] <Nekow42> Flannel: Is it worth it, then?
[07:09] <skavenge> i tried updating to the 686 kernel on this celeron M processor in this laptop and it -crawled- compared to 386 ;/
[07:09] <Flannel> Nekow42: well, considering it's hardly any trouble to change, I'd say yes
[07:10] <Nekow42> Flannel: Cool. I'm actually asking in retrospect, I've already done it...
[07:10] <Nekow42> Flannel: Thanks a bundle, I'll dump the 386 off my machine, free up ~80MB
[07:11] <blind> ACK! Someone help :[
[07:11] <blind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18837
[07:11] <Flannel> Nekow42: if you've updated recently, I suggest letting it sit for a while, make sure your box doesnt have issues with the new kernel, before removing it
[07:11] <ToHellWithGA> holla ballas.  i just install aiglx and like it.  how can i setup something similar to MS Remote Desktop?  I've used VNC in the past and found it rather inferior.
[07:12] <Camden> it is a stupid card trick
[07:12] <snoops> ToHellWithGA ah well.. vnc, another option is freenx/nx server
[07:12] <Camden> made into a movie
[07:13] <snoops> nx server and nx client I've found is SOO fast it's ridiculous
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> snoops: is there a client for windoze?
[07:13] <Camden> namely none of the cards in the first display are in the second display
[07:13] <snoops> yes ToHellWithGA
[07:13] <jon27kc> Going to go see if I can fix Nautilus.
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> ok.  thanks snoops, i'll look into freenx
[07:13] <snoops> ToHellWithGA the only thing though..you can't connect to a specified session with nx..
[07:13] <snoops> it creates a new session
[07:14] <snoops> you can create a session with nx, then suspend it and reconnect to the same one later
[07:14] <MojoRison> hello......can anyone help me, having a hell of a time getting my java to work on a new install
[07:14] <snoops> !java
[07:15] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:15] <ron999> ic56 are you busy?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> snoops: i'm not too picky on the session.  it's easy enough to kill a process and restart it in the new X session
[07:16] <snoops> ToHellWithGA :)
[07:16] <DJRipper> Can you kill a windows pc from ubuntu, like shut it down?
[07:16] <DJRipper> or restart?
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> blind: what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:16] <blind> fyrestrtr: I've fixed it now.
[07:16] <blind> Thank you though :] 
[07:16] <Nekow42> DJRipper: Through VNC...
[07:16] <skavenge> DJRipper: ifyou throw it hard enough at the window machine sure
[07:16] <ron999> henry54 are you busy?
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: pull the power plug.
[07:17] <DJRipper> lol
[07:17] <prophet> firefox keeps crashing for some reason... where are the crash logs
[07:17] <snoops> DJRipper you could login through rdesktop and do it..also if you're on a domain
[07:17] <DJRipper> VNC?
[07:17] <snoops> I believe you can issue commands
[07:17] <henry54> ron999 sort of... but go ahead.
[07:17] <MojoRison> thanks snoops......going to try it out
[07:17] <Nekow42> DJRipper: http://www.tightvnc.com/
[07:17] <DJRipper> anything specific have to be loaded on the winblows terminal?
[07:18] <ron999> henry54 when you are not busy please will you help me again with floppy disk problem
[07:18] <prophet> ?
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: you need to enable remote desktop, and must login with an account that [a]  has a password [b]  has administrative rights (or) has been specifically allowed to login to remote desktop.
[07:18] <efuzzyone> i get aticonfig not found, what package should I install for it to be there?
[07:19] <snoops> hmm if you can run mmc computer management on wine you can use that to shutdown other windows pcs on the network DJRipper
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> !ati > efuzzyone
[07:19] <DJRipper> snoops thats what i want to do
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: are you really that lazy that you can't walk up and unplug it? :P
[07:20] <Nekow42> DJRipper: But, you want to do it without installing anything on the win box?
[07:20] <henry54> ron999 let's come back to my questions from yesterday: does the floppy show up properly if you enter the BIOS at reboot? do you know what the BIOS is and how to get there? (it varies depending on the motherboard manufacturer of your PC)
[07:20] <mil000000> alguien habla espaol?
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> !es
[07:20] <Hobbsee> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:20] <ron999> henry54 can you open a room here?
[07:20] <DJRipper> exactaly
[07:20] <h3h_timo> !ati
[07:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:20] <h3h_timo> !xgl
[07:20] <henry54> ron999 i'm on #sydney
[07:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <snoops> DJRipper let me have a quick look
[07:21] <DJRipper> kk
[07:21] <ron999> henry54 i don't understand #sydney?
[07:21] <henry54> ron999 irc channel #sydney, as opposed to #ubuntu
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> ron999: he means : type /join #sydney
[07:21] <Nekow42> Hmm... How do I get foreign characters to stop looking like ? in nautilus?
[07:22] <ron999> henry54 i will try that
[07:22] <henry54> ron999 how in the world are you connected to this channel? via some web interface ?
[07:22] <cyphase> *sigh*
[07:22] <henry54> tell me about it...
[07:23] <snoops> DJRipper http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/60324-remote-shutdown-windows-linux-box.html <- that looks good.. the python script - 4th post
[07:23] <Nekow42> henry54: Currenly, you're connected to the Ubuntu channel... Channel in IRC is what you would refer to as a "Chatroom" in other online chat sites
[07:23] <odat> anyone up for reviewing a new open source service?
[07:23] <cyphase> what service?
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> odat: that does what?
[07:23] <odat> fossystems.com
[07:24] <DJRipper> whats default user on fresh install
[07:24] <prwlr> hello, how can i use the package files installed in a net-connected box to a box with no internet?
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> what does it do?
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: on windows?
[07:24] <henry54> ok. all this fancy new stuff... chatroom... :-)
[07:24] <MojoRison> thanks snoop
[07:24] <DJRipper> Ubuntu
[07:24] <odat> i need feedback since i'm close to launching it
[07:24] <cyphase> hmm
[07:24] <cyphase> you need javascript enabled for it to even load
[07:25] <zcat[1] > good concept; nobody sells preinstalled linux...
[07:25] <DJRipper> whats default user on fresh install
[07:25] <DJRipper> Ubuntu
[07:25] <Flannel> DJRipper: whatever you set it up for
[07:25] <zcat[1] > otoh I probably wouldn't want someone else's idea of a good install..
[07:26] <DJRipper> i didnt set a user up
[07:26] <DJRipper> it*
[07:26] <Nekow42> odat: No doctype tag, or character encoding...
[07:26] <Flannel> DJRipper: yes you did.  It asked you for a username and password while you were installing.  Unless this is a OEM installation?
[07:26] <odat> Nekow42, not sure what you mean
[07:26] <zcat[1] > DJRipper: If you don't enter a username and password the installer won't continue afaik. There is no default user, you have to enter something to do an install.
[07:27] <odat> cyphase, would a metatag be better?
[07:27] <DJRipper> fresh install oem
[07:27] <cpk2> odat: why cant i open the help column tab links in a new column? i hate being forced to open new windows
[07:27] <Nekow42> odat: http://tinyurl.com/ma5gx
[07:28] <bruenig> If I wanted to remove all the files in a directory, without removing the directory itself, is there a way to do that? i.e. some simple command
[07:28] <Flannel> DJRipper: ah, that's different then.  You need to run... sudo oem-config-prepare  if you need to login, the user is 'oem'
[07:28] <DJRipper> oem was it
[07:28] <DJRipper> lol
[07:28] <zcat[1] > rm -rf foo/* will remove everything in /foo but not foo itself..
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:29] <bruenig> zcat[1] , thanks
[07:29] <Nekow42> bruenig: A warning, that will remove evcerying in directories below that one too...
[07:29] <Flannel> DJRipper: once you are in, run that oem-config-prepare (if you're not already setup to reconfigure everything), to finish up the installation (you'll need to reboot)
[07:29] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, do i need to point the repositories to /var/cache/apt/archives? or can apt-get install this_app work after the copy?
[07:29] <Nekow42> *everything
[07:30] <bruenig> Nekow42, yeah I know, I didn't even think about using the wildcard character,
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: no, just copy whatever is in the net-connected pc's /var/cache/apt/archives directory to the non-net one, then just issue apt-get install as normal
[07:30] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, great thanks dude
[07:31] <zcat[1] > if you want to remove all the files and leave the directory structure; find foo/ -type f -exec rm {} \;
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: later, you can setup an apt proxy or cache so you don't have to keep doing this :)
[07:31] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, one more question: does this /var/cache/apt/archives contents get deleted automatically through time? i mean doesn't this get cleaned periodically or something?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: only if you issue apt-get clean
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: otherwise, I don't think it does
[07:32] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, ah yes thanks, how's that apt proxy or cache thingie work?
[07:32] <Nekow42> fyrestrtr: Thatnks for the reminder
[07:32] <zcat[1] > there's settings under spftware properites iirc to clean it out after packages are applied, or after they've been superceeded, or whenever...
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: look it up, you have to edit the sources list
[07:32] <acad> whats the best tool to use for remastering ubuntu? all i want is something that works with the 6.06 version
[07:33] <acad> or a tutorial that is up to date with it
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> acad: what do you mean 'remaster'?
[07:33] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, ok thanks much! have a good day
[07:33] <acad> fyrestrtr to add a program
[07:33] <sparkman> !mplayer
[07:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[07:33] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> any program, or a specific program?
[07:33] <odat> ok javascript out
[07:33] <odat> metatag in
[07:33] <acad> fryrestr a specific program
[07:33] <odat> anymore suggestions?
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> acad: like what?
[07:34] <acad> fyrestrtr what difference does it make?
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> I don't understand what you want to do.
[07:34] <acad> fyrestrtr if you don't understand what i want to do then you don't know the answer
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> you may not know how to ask the question properly.
[07:35] <highphilosopher> acad: what's they question
[07:35] <Nekow42> fyrestrtr: I think he wants to create his own custom install disk
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> I may know the answer, but I can't understand your question. Its happened before.
[07:35] <odat> cyphase, i change it so you don't need javascript to get to it
[07:35] <acad> highpilosopher i'm looking for a tutorial on remastering (it seems to be called customizing in ubuntu land)
[07:36] <highphilosopher> acad: hang on...
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> acad: you need the oem tools, which are on the alternate install cd.
[07:36] <acad> fyrestrtr it is a very simple question,
[07:36] <highphilosopher> acad: you looking for live bootable? or install?
[07:36] <highphilosopher> acad: or both?
[07:36] <sparkman> any reason why # apt-get -t edgy install perl perl-base perl-modules # doesn't work?
[07:36] <acad> highphilosopher the 6.06tls version that is both a live cd and install
[07:36] <highphilosopher> k
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> acad: you could have said, "Hey, how do I make a custom livecd using the 6.06 as a template?" that would have made sense.
[07:37] <highphilosopher> acad: here ya go... http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> odat: what does your service do exactly?
[07:38] <acad> highphilosopher that is nice, what i'm having problems with is that with 6.06tls it crashs when i get to the squash part of the tutorial... i suspect something changed as i check the md5sum, ram, and disk space.
[07:39] <highphilosopher> acad: hmmm, any error msgs, or just a dead crash?
[07:39] <minerale> I've been hearing about AOL all my life, never seen it or tried it, now that they have the free plans, I called in and I got my aol account --- free, anyone here ever used it?
[07:39] <odat> its a place designated and unified for all the open source system builder creators
[07:39] <eobanb> minerale, for free..?
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> minerale: call, and cancel. Its not worth it.
[07:39] <sparkman> acad: memtest86+? :)
[07:40] <acad> hibhphiloxophdf segmentation fault
[07:40] <minerale> fyrestrtr: did I mention aol is free now ?
[07:40] <sparkman> so does anyone know why apt-get -t edgy doesn't work? :)
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> minerale: I heard you, call and cancel. You could have gotten it for free before too.
[07:40] <ku> Whoa, why is my music playing at like 1.5x the normal speed? lol
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> minerale: I know people using it for 3 years for free.
[07:40] <jipi> !wmv
[07:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> sparkman: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:41] <sparkman> fyrestrtr: +1?
[07:41] <minerale> is it possible to sign on AOL but not sign on the IM ?
[07:41] <ku> nono, i think it's my computer... often, my computer's clock will run faster and whatnot... and i guess it affects media in linux
[07:41] <bruenig> minerale, watch out when canceling, might get something like this, http://media.putfile.com/AOL-Cancellation
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> bruenig: lol that's a classic.
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> sparkman: yes, that's the channel for development versions of ubuntu
[07:42] <minerale> bruenig: they change the procedure, I called, the lady was nice, and no kidding they have a free plan now,, completely free, that bad publicity must have pushed them
[07:42] <acad> highphilosopher any suggestions on the segmentation fault issue?
[07:43] <Nekow42> acad: Run memtest86+
[07:43] <highphilosopher> acad: I don't know honestly, Usually segmentation faults happen because of lack of disk space or lack of RAM.
[07:43] <Flannel> sparkman: which ubuntu mirror are you using?
[07:43] <minerale> bruenig: http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/636194/
[07:43] <bruenig> minerale, i tried to cancel with them, it was pretty funny, not as bad as that but they were certain that this was one of the worse decisions of my life
[07:43] <highphilosopher> acad: how much RAM do you have / how big is the squashfs?
[07:43] <cvp> anyone: good GPL/OSS media player to play commercial DVD's?
[07:43] <eobanb> !restricted
[07:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:43] <acad> highphilosopher my ram is 512mb and i made a 2gb swap
[07:43] <tsume> cvp: xine, mplayer, many
[07:44] <cvp> tsume: which do you use / recommend?
[07:44] <tsume> cvp: you must learn how to download the css decoder
[07:44] <sparkman> Flannel: 6.06 TLS
[07:44] <_atomic> sup?
[07:44] <tsume> cvp: depends how I'm feeling :)
[07:44] <Nekow42> cvp: Totem can do it, look into easyubuntu
[07:44] <avis> has anyone used k9copy ?
[07:44] <cvp> tsume: "css decoder?"
[07:44] <highphilosopher> acad: that should be plenty, unless you MAY have a bad stick of RAM?
[07:44] <Flannel> sparkman: er, no. Which mirror, ie the url in your sources.list
[07:44] <highphilosopher> acad: I don't see anything else that could be causing the problem
[07:44] <acad> highphilosopher hmm i doubt it is my ram
[07:44] <cvp> Nekow42: i've never liked totem - is that unfounded?
[07:44] <sparkman> Flannel: oh, should be the official us mirror
[07:44] <tsume> Nekow42: some people perfer the real thing
[07:45] <Nekow42> cvp: which player do you use?
[07:45] <Flannel> sparkman: that's probably why.  Edgy isn't distributed to the mirrors, just archive.ubuntu.com, as far as I know.
[07:45] <cvp> Nekow42: mostly VLC, but i'm not liking what it's doing with DVD's
[07:45] <highphilosopher> acad: You might submit a bug report on the squashfs tree
[07:45] <tsume> wha... php is slower than ruby? XD
[07:45] <cvp> tsume: what's a css decoder?
[07:45] <_atomic> good
[07:45] <tsume> http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html
[07:45] <Nekow42> cvp: xine has excellent support, along with whatever frontend you choose
[07:45] <cvp> Nekow42: my brother suggested gxine - is that any good?
[07:46] <acad> hmm  maybe i'll just base it off 6.04, is that stable?
[07:46] <boingolov> lol, php is not slower than ruby
[07:46] <cvp> Nekow42: (i run GNOME)
[07:46] <boingolov> evar
[07:46] <boingolov> even ruby on rails
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> cvp: content scrambling system = css -- what is used to encrypt dvds
[07:46] <sparkman> Flannel: ah, ok
[07:46] <Nekow42> cvp: Never used it, but xine plays dvds perfectly, and gxine is just a frontend, so it should too
[07:46] <Flannel> sparkman: although, I don't imagine trying to use edgy packages in breezy is a good idea.
[07:46] <cvp> fyrestrtr: any recommendations for a css decoder then?
[07:46] <cvp> Nekow42: Thanks!
[07:46] <Nekow42> cvp: youll need libdvdcss
[07:47] <Nekow42> cvp: I think it's called that...
[07:47] <sparkman> Flannel: heh, so what's the best way to get up-to-date perl packages?
[07:47] <bruenig> cvp, as long as you aren't in America, because that is illegal :D
[07:47] <boingolov> spark, perl -MCPAN -e shell
[07:47] <boingolov> as root
[07:47] <cvp> Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:47] <cvp> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:47] <cvp> is only available from another source
[07:47] <sparkman> boingolov: binary please
[07:47] <Nekow42> cvp: Heard of easyubuntu?
[07:48] <bruenig> libdvdcss, cannot be downloaded in the repos
[07:48] <highphilosopher> acad: should be
[07:48] <cvp> Nekow42: nope
[07:48] <boingolov> spark, do you mean the perl interpreter itsself, or perl packages?
[07:48] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[07:48] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:48] <sparkman> boingolov: interpreter
[07:48] <cvp> bruenig: I thought it's illegal to try to redistribute bootleg coppies
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> cvp: read the restricted formats wiki entry
[07:48] <highphilosopher> tsume:  that cannot be right
[07:48] <boingolov> spark, then use apt-get or synaptics
[07:48] <bruenig> use that SeveasPackages link
[07:48] <Nekow42> cvp: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[07:48] <Flannel> sparkman: compile them yourself, look for a deb at an unofficial repository, see if it's in backports
[07:48] <sparkman> boingolov: i did, but it's not available from the dapper repository :)
[07:49] <boingolov> really?
[07:49] <sparkman> Flannel: ok, where can i find a dapper backports repostiory? wiki.ubuntu.org ?
[07:49] <boingolov> I have perl installed
[07:49] <sparkman> boingolov: not 5.8.8
[07:49] <highphilosopher> tsume:  hang on lemme run this code on my ws
[07:49] <boingolov> can't remember where I grabbed it from
[07:49] <bruenig> cvp, if you use the Seveas Packages, you can install it via apt-get
[07:49] <boingolov> well, if you want new perl, you will have to compile it ;)
[07:49] <boingolov> then do something like checkinstall
[07:49] <boingolov> or you can compile it via cpan
[07:49] <boingolov> which would be invoked via:
[07:50] <boingolov> perl -MCPAN -e shell
[07:50] <boingolov> HEHE
[07:50] <Flannel> !tell sparkman about easysource~
[07:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysource~ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:50] <Flannel> !tell sparkman about easysource
[07:50] <bruenig> cvp, or you can just use this http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/pool/libdvdcss/1.2.8/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb
[07:50] <ku> !antivirus
[07:50] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[07:50] <ku> ^^ k
[07:50] <sparkman> Flannel: ok, thanks :)
[07:51] <cmug> "We're sorry; the installer crashed. Please file a bug report at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug and a developer will attend to the problem as soon as possible."
[07:51] <cmug> BAH
[07:51] <cvp> bruenig: and what will libdvdcss help me do?
[07:51] <alekz> hi, in wich file can i see the list of my installed desktops availables on the User Sessiones startup menu ?
[07:51] <bruenig> cvp, view dvds, I didn't see your initial problem just that you needed libdvdcss
[07:51] <Flannel> cmug: try the alternate CD
[07:51] <boingolov> seriously, if you have some specific need for some bleeding edge perl, then you shouldn't be scared of compiling.  otherwise, go with 5.8.7
[07:51] <cmug> Flannel, the alternate CD is not available from shipit
[07:51] <cmug> and I only have these bloody GUI installer POS's at my disposal!
[07:52] <Flannel> cmug: that's correct, although it was a bad idea.
[07:52] <cvp> bruenig: that works with all media players then? it's required to view dvd's? because the "css" makes it sound like it's used to decrypt DVD's
[07:52] <zcat[1] > cvp: you can't view them without decrypting them first.
[07:52] <bruenig> cvp, yeah it decrypts the encrypted ones
[07:53] <ndkk3> hey, i have a file called "~" in my / dir, will this delete all my files if i "sudo rm -rf ~" ?
[07:53] <crimsun> yes
[07:53] <zcat[1] > ndkk3: probably.
[07:53] <avis> i thought k9copy was the ubuntu version of dvddecrypter
[07:53] <ndkk3> why
[07:53] <boingolov> ndkk , ~ expands to /home/<yourusername>
[07:53] <Flannel> ndkk3: you can substitute rm for ls, to see, usually.
[07:53] <avis> or rather dvd shrink
[07:53] <boingolov> but if you do rm \~ it shoudl work
[07:53] <ndkk3> i did it, but nothin happened
[07:53] <ndkk3> i did: sudo rm -rf ~
[07:54] <Flannel> ~/~ seems to work fine.
[07:54] <zcat[1] > that will delete everything in /root
[07:54] <foobear> ndkk3:  I think you should try it and tell us all what happens..., assuming you can still run you're IRC client...
[07:54] <ndkk3> zcat[1] : it didn't though
[07:54] <zcat[1] > hmm, it should have.
[07:54] <ndkk3> i ctrl + C while it was loading
[07:54] <boingolov> ndkk3, echo $_IMAGE_MAGIC
[07:55] <ndkk3> boingolov?
[07:55] <ndkk3> the file "~" was in "/" dir
[07:55] <cvp> bruenig, zcat[1] , Nekow32, tsume, fyrestrtr: thanks!
[07:55] <eobanb> you dont need to use sudo to rm files in your home dir
[07:55] <cvp> Nekow42: easyubuntu frickin' OWNS
[07:55] <ndkk3> not in my homedir, i was in /
[07:56] <sparkman> ndkk3: rm -- /~
[07:56] <sparkman> :)
[07:56] <sparkman> oh, may need to escape
[07:56] <ndkk3> ic
[07:56] <cvp> ndkk3: rm /~ oughta do, aye?
[07:56] <ndkk3> but i did: sudo rm -rf ~
[07:56] <ndkk3> oh man
[07:56] <cvp> as long as you don't do -r, things will be dandy
[07:56] <eobanb> OR
[07:56] <eobanb> you open nautilus
[07:56] <cvp> oh christ, why the -r?
[07:56] <eobanb> and right click
[07:56] <eobanb> done.
[07:56] <sparkman> rm \~
[07:57] <ndkk3> roof:~$ sudo rm -rf ~
[07:57] <ndkk3> sup
[07:57] <ndkk3> with -r
[07:57] <sparkman> well you're fscked then :)
[07:57] <cvp> why -r?
[07:57] <zcat[1] > sudo doesn't change your environment, right.. so /home/ndkk3 is now history...
[07:57] <cvp> "~" is a file, right?
[07:57] <cvp> you don't need -r
[07:57] <ndkk3> yeah
[07:57] <cvp> it's a terrible idea, in fact, to do -r
[07:57] <eobanb> indeed.
[07:57] <cvp> like... why would you do this?
[07:58] <ndkk3> but it didn't do anything though, i ctrl+C right away
[07:58] <cvp> when you want to make sure you're not deleting your home directory, always put a path, and don't do recursive
[07:58] <foobear> sudo rm -rf ~/../  ; try that.
[07:58] <cvp> uh-huh...
[07:58] <cvp> don't listen to foobear
[07:58] <Nekow42> the f is what you want to watch out for...
[07:58] <zcat[1] > btw; just for the record if you want to delete all the dotfiles (like to reset your login back to defaults) don't rm -rf .* It kinda matches '.' and '..' as well.
[07:58] <cvp> you might as well rm -r /*
[07:58] <foobear> Make sure you have clean install disks before you start...
[07:58] <cvp> why is this such a huge issue? "rm /~" is all you need
[07:59] <cvp> it's safe, and it does exactly what you want
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume:  I re-ran the test here http://www.invalidpage.com/testing.php and got 32 seconds
[07:59] <ndkk3> i know there's no, biggy, but when i did it, nothing happened
[07:59] <tsume> highphilosopher: the guy who made it was an idiot
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume: I changed the code slightly and got it to run at 20 seconds
[07:59] <tsume> highphilosopher: I just sped up the ruby code
[07:59] <ku> Question: I installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package from Ubuntu, and I was wondering if there is any way to remove it. I wanted to try them both out, but now decided to stick with Ubuntu
[07:59] <tsume> 9 seconds
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume: lol
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume:  all I did was pull out the hundreds of echo calls. talk about a difference
[08:00] <ndkk3> im fucked then huh?
[08:00] <foobear> cvp: sorry, couldn't help myself.
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: in which, php?
[08:00] <highphilosopher> tsume:  The zend accelerator would help more (as well as running fastCGI)
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: the point is to print to the screen :)
[08:00] <ndkk3> zcat[1] : what is the best way to do then?
[08:00] <boingolov> or running php as a module
[08:00] <highphilosopher> tsume: I did, I dropped everything to a string then echo'ed the string at the end
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: as in a main programming languge. since php has been abused now for the long while
[08:00] <ndkk3> i know it deleted something because my freespace was 1.3GB now its 1.4GB
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: that is cheating, that is not how you render a manderbot set
[08:01] <boingolov> fuck ruby
[08:01] <tsume> boingolov: ruby owns you :)
[08:01] <highphilosopher> tsume: :)
[08:01] <boingolov> hehe
[08:01] <tsume> now back to the optimizing
[08:01] <tsume> I'm doing python vs ruby
[08:01] <highphilosopher> tsume: honestly I've not messed with ruby that much...
[08:01] <tsume> optimizing optimizing optmizing
[08:01] <tsume> highphilosopher: its an excellent language, too bad it doesn't get more attention than rubyonrails
[08:01] <highphilosopher> tsume:  there must be a pre-built function in the java, cause that cannot be right
[08:01] <boingolov> seriously, big diff when running php as module vs. running php as cgi/fastcgi
[08:02] <tsume> highphilosopher: its the easiest language to write bindings for
[08:02] <zcat[1] > ndkk3: sudo rm /~ should have worked... and not damaged anything else.
[08:02] <highphilosopher> tsume: hmm, I may have to check it out
[08:02] <cvp> ndkk3: ja, du bist fukkt
[08:02] <ndkk3> what?
[08:02] <highphilosopher> boingolov: nodz
[08:02] <ndkk3> so im fucked then?
[08:02] <zcat[1] > too late now though.
[08:02] <ndkk3> i did: sudo rm -rf ~
[08:02] <tsume> highphilosopher: you're welcomed to come by #rubyforce Just don't visit the web page yet. :) I'm uploading a new one soon
[08:02] <ndkk3> ?
[08:02] <odat> anyone up for some more feedback
[08:02] <odat> ?
[08:02] <cvp> ndkk3: what you did, if you ran the command you wrote above, was delete your home dir...
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: exactly
[08:03] <highphilosopher> tsume: written in php :):):):):)
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: you rm'd your home directory
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: you should have done rm /~
[08:03] <ndkk3> ic
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: with nothing else
[08:03] <boingolov> so waht program are you guys talking about?
[08:03] <tsume> highphilosopher: please :P Written in ruby, using the Nitro framework(note: not rails)
[08:03] <tsume> boingolov: http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html#python
[08:03] <tsume> oops
[08:03] <ndkk3> cvp: which home directory? root or user?
[08:03] <zcat[1] > user
[08:03] <tsume> http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: user
[08:03] <zcat[1] > bye... gotta go.
[08:03] <highphilosopher> tsume:  ok, so 'splain the whole "I don't like rails" thing
[08:03] <tsume> the guy doesn't know how to optimize
[08:03] <ndkk3> /home/ndkk3 or / ?
[08:04] <cvp> i mean... unless you were logged in as root
[08:04] <odat> anyhelp/feedback would be appreciated
[08:04] <tsume> highphilosopher: Nitro is made by greeks? :)
[08:04] <odat> fossystems.com
[08:04] <ndkk3> cvp: i used 'sudo' though
[08:04] <tsume> highphilosopher: I just don't take to fads
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> !offtopic
[08:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:04] <ndkk3> will that tell the system that im logged in as root?
[08:04] <tsume> highphilosopher: I use what is right by design
[08:04] <highphilosopher> tsume:  O I C
[08:04] <highphilosopher> tsume:  like PHP5 when everyone is selling scripts for 4 still ??
[08:04] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo doesn't use /root as home dir unless you give it another parameter... i don't remember what it is right now, but I think it's -h
[08:05] <tsume> highphilosopher: plus its just cool. has tons of little easy things, like making anything draggable. You just add draggable="true" to the xhtml tag
[08:05] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo will still use the original user's (who is using the sudo command) home dir
[08:05] <boingolov> ahh, the mandelbrot set
[08:05] <tsume> text, boxes, anything
[08:05] <GG_Allin> what file do I modify in ubuntu to set a default gateway?
[08:05] <highphilosopher> tsume: sweet. I will have to check that out. How easy is it on the DB access side?
[08:05] <mohan> hello
[08:06] <boingolov> and why is there not a perl version?
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> GG_Allin: /etc/networking/interfaces
[08:06] <mohan> anybody here with experience setting up software raid on dapper ?
[08:06] <ndkk3> cvp: so that command i used (sudo rm -rf ~) will just delete user files and not system/root files?
[08:06] <tsume> highphilosopher: with Nitro, you use a ORM called Og, makes life easier
[08:06] <highphilosopher> boingolov: because PERL went out long time ago.
[08:06] <boingolov> lol, not hardly
[08:06] <cvp> ndkk3: *nod*
[08:06] <tsume> highphilosopher: basically you do everything through a ruby object.
[08:06] <highphilosopher> tsume:  gotcha
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> tsume: what are you talking about?
[08:06] <prophet> hey guys can someone help me i fallowed some guide about some XGL thing and now my computer is jacked up its all choppy and the windows are none repsonsive
[08:06] <ndkk3> cvp: ?
[08:06] <tsume> highphilosopher: the nitro channel is #nitro ;)
[08:06] <GG_Allin> what exactly do I type into the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:06] <boingolov> if you want performance, perl is still relevant
[08:06] <tsume> fyrestrtr: ruby and web programming frameworks
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> prophet: undo whatever you did.
[08:06] <highphilosopher> prophet: run an sudo apt-get repait xgl
[08:06] <cvp> ndkk3: a "nod" is a gesture made with the head to signal agreement, compliance, or affirmation
[08:07] <renewbie> hi, I am trying to install courier-imap but it is forcing me to install postfix. I don't want postfix as I already have another mail server running.
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> tsume: right, so nothing relating to ubuntu -- take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:07] <SigmaX> prophet: did you change your video driver?
[08:07] <renewbie> How can install courier-imap without postfix?
[08:07] <highphilosopher> fyrestr: kewl
[08:07] <ndkk3> cvp: so no biggy about it right
[08:07] <highphilosopher> tsume:  meet me in nitro?
[08:07] <prophet> sigmax i think so i was trying to make it run better because the windows were kinda laggin
[08:07] <tsume> highphilosopher: sure
[08:07] <umar> whether ubuntu s dapper f-refox is having good renderring support
[08:08] <cvp> ndkk3: if you had a prized, meticulously-indexed porno collection in your home directory, then it is a big loss, but there is no damage to the system
[08:08] <renewbie> is there any command line switch to do this in apt-get?
[08:08] <umar> i heard it is compiled with higher versions of pango
[08:08] <renewbie> I can't find anything in man
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> renewbie: do what?
[08:08] <renewbie> may be I am missing something.. any pointer?
[08:08] <renewbie> hi, I am trying to install courier-imap but it is forcing me to install postfix. I don't want postfix as I already have another mail server running.
[08:08] <ndkk3> cvp: i see, i was just making sure, because it took me some times to install this thing
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> oh missed your question, sorry.
[08:09] <umar> may i know diff///// between dappers firefox and sarge firefox
[08:09] <cvp> i often find myself doubting my sexuality when i type in things like "man finger"... is there anything you guys recommends i use to alias that command?
[08:09] <foobear> . o 0 (crying to hard to type)...
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> cvp: info finger
[08:09] <ndkk3> cvp: let me say this again, this wont do anything 'harm' to my system, just my home dir (/home/ndkk3) ?
[08:09] <cvp> ndkk3: yes
[08:09] <ndkk3> ok
[08:09] <foobear> cvp & ndkk3: thanks 4 keeping me awake.
[08:09] <cvp> ndkk3: could'nt have said it better myself
[08:10] <cvp> foobear: :p
[08:10] <prophet> philosopher apt-get repair xgl it said it was a invlaid operator
[08:10] <ndkk3> thanks
[08:10] <trafiq> hi
[08:10] <cvp> ndkk3: np
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> prophet: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:10] <ndkk3> my system's been up for 72 days, i don't wanna reinstall this thing and reinstall everything over
[08:10] <ndkk3> this aint no windows
[08:10] <ndkk3> :P
[08:11] <ndkk3> i mean, i don't care about the uptime
[08:11] <cvp> don't diginify it by using the name MS wants you to - join the revolution and use "winblows"
[08:11] <ndkk3> its the time it took me to install everything you know
[08:11] <alekz> hi, in wich file can i see the list of my installed desktops availables on the User Sessiones startup menu ??
[08:11] <ndkk3> sure
[08:12] <cvp> whoah, upside-down questionmark doohickey - gotta answer that one!
[08:12] <ndkk3> dang, you got scared when you said my system is fucked
[08:12] <cvp> ndkk3: naw, i didn't say your SYSTEM was fucked... just you, as in the user
[08:12] <grigora> hi, I am an old fvwm user and I very much like the ability to switch terminals by simply moving the mouse across the border, now I am using the GNOME desktop and am curious if GNOME offers the same functionality, thanks!
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> alekz: /usr/share/xsessions/
[08:12] <ndkk3> it probably deleted some of my docs though
[08:12] <cvp> ndkk3: yep, most likely
[08:13] <alekz> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> grigora: with xgl, yes. Otherwise you can use the shortcut keys. ctrl+alt+arrow keys. Might be another way though, not sure.
[08:13] <Skooj> erm, how do i upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[08:13] <cvp> bruenig: if you're still paying attention, where do i put libdvdcss?
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade
[08:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:14] <cvp> Skooj: http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <kintaro0e> hello everyone, i install vmware-server on my server and make a windows xp client os on it.but this is the problem: The network bridge on device /dev/vmnet0 is temporarily down because the bridged Ethernet interface is down. how wll i enable the vmnet0 interface up?
[08:14] <kintaro0e> Terminus: do you have any idea on this problem?
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: try sudo ifconfig vmnet0 up
[08:14] <ndkk3> and yeah, i thought when you "rm -rf ~" itll delete all files in /
[08:14] <ndkk3> nuff said
[08:14] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: ok..i'll try it..
[08:14] <foobear> ndkk3: who gives a sh as long as you archived the "meticulously indexed pr0n collection" somewhere outside of /~
[08:15] <ndkk3> word ^
[08:15] <kintaro0e> no such device fyrestrtr..
[08:16] <grigora> fyrestrtr: thanks, so do I just install xgl on top of GNOME?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: ifconfig -a -- do you see it listed there?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> grigora: its a bit more complicated than that, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl
[08:17] <cvp> any of you guys wanna go to a movie on friday?
[08:17] <ron999> henry54 i'm back #sydney please
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> cvp: not with someone who is worried about man finger
[08:18] <Terminus> kintaro0e: no idea. haven't used vmware in a long time.
[08:18] <Skooj> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades, i hsould have a "breezy-updates" repository, but i odn't :S
[08:18] <kintaro0e> nope..fyrestrtr..no vmnet0...actually i have 2 nic..eth0 and eth1..currently its running in eth1 and my vmware network is bridge...
[08:18] <cvp> Skooj: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and remove every "#" you see before the repository entries
[08:19] <kintaro0e> Terminus: its ok..hehehe
[08:19] <Skooj> thanks cvp
[08:19] <Terminus> kintaro0e: why use vmware? maybe qemu is enough to do the job. :)
[08:20] <kintaro0e> Terminus: its for windows client os..
[08:20] <cvp> Skooj: after that, make sure to do sudo apt-get update before you try apt-getting again
[08:20] <ndkk3> cvp: i think im fucked, it deleted all my files starting with .
[08:20] <ndkk3> :/
[08:20] <Terminus> kintaro0e: i have a deb of the latest version here if you want. the accelerator i have is optimized for the k7 kernel only though so you might have to build your own.
[08:20] <ndkk3> firefox wont run
[08:20] <Terminus> s/optimized/compiled/
[08:21] <cvp> ndkk3: lawl, it's probably pointing to extensions and preferences you allegedly had in ~, but are now gone
[08:21] <cvp> ndkk3: go into synaptic package manager and do reinstalls of the software you use
[08:21] <kintaro0e> Terminus: will its ok..they like to use on vmware..
[08:21] <kintaro0e> hehehe
[08:21] <cvp> ndkk3: that'd be under System -> Administration, if you can't find it
[08:21] <ndkk3> i see
[08:22] <Ademan_> what ports does samba use?
[08:22] <Terminus> whoops... i am not allowed to redistribute kqemu. >_<
[08:22] <foobear> almost forgot why I'm here...
[08:22] <cvp> Ademan_: samba is a very sensual dance, so if you can't guess...
[08:22] <foobear> anyone familiar with configuring ALSA to use cmipci with joystick?
[08:22] <drafz> hello
[08:23] <Ademan_> cvp: lol
[08:23] <ndkk3> man, even Synaptic wont even run
[08:23] <kintaro0e> Terminus:..ahhaha
[08:23] <ndkk3> :/
[08:23] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: any advice?
[08:23] <cvp> foobear: i'm only here this long because i'm waiting for all the crap i chose to update using easyubuntu to download... i'm really just killing time
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: that's... bad
[08:23] <drafz> i need help or install ubuntu 6.06 i think
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: may have to do that through apt then
[08:23] <drafz> anyone could help me ?
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo apt-get remove mozilla
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo apt-get install mozilla
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: etc
[08:24] <ndkk3> what about synaptic
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: i don't know enough to help you there
[08:24] <ndkk3> ic
[08:24] <ndkk3> thanks
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: i actually forgot how important some of the ~/.* junk is
[08:24] <drafz> ***** when i launch ubuntu dapper install , kernel freeze on a PCI: can't allocate ressource *****
[08:24] <foobear> ndkk3: if you know debian, apt is the way to go.
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: it may very well turn out that you need to back up your shit and reinstall
[08:25] <ndkk3> that's another story
[08:25] <cvp> for the longest time, i wanted to make an MMORPG character named "Colonel Panic"
[08:25] <cvp> frickin' GET IT!??
[08:25] <cvp> it wasn't that bad, rabeldable
[08:25] <eobanb> a lot of people have already made that joke.
[08:26] <cvp> y'know what, eobanb?
[08:26] <foobear> ndkk3: if its a local install, I'd just recreate home directories.
[08:26] <cvp> ....
[08:26] <cvp> yeah
[08:26] <eobanb> haha
[08:26] <drafz> ....
[08:26] <drafz> no help here so ?
[08:26] <cvp> whoah... wtf is "freepats?"
[08:26] <ndkk3> what you mean?
[08:26] <ndkk3> @ foobear
[08:26] <cvp> drafz: come back when other people are paying attention
[08:27] <drafz> :-.
[08:27] <drafz> : /
[08:27] <cvp> ndkk3: foobear's right, actually
[08:27] <drafz> damn it
[08:27] <drafz> that sucks
[08:27] <cvp> ndkk3: you've already killed your ~, so you may as well kill the user "ndkk3" or whatever, and then useradd ndkk3
[08:27] <drafz> i think 2.6.17-6 is fucked up
[08:27] <cvp> drafz: watch your fucking mouth
[08:27] <drafz> ::O
[08:27] <drafz> yeah but i would like to install
[08:28] <drafz> ubuntu
[08:28] <cvp> drafz: ubuntu is for human beings, not for heathens
[08:28] <drafz> i got standard hardware
[08:28] <drafz> i dont know why , it's so sad
[08:28] <foobear> ndkk3: well assuming you deleted and want to recreate user directories as, just create them and copy default profile and bashrc into them.
[08:28] <ndkk3> cvp: there are still some files in my ~/
[08:28] <cvp> foobear: well lah-dee-frickin-dah, don't we just have the answers to everything
[08:28] <foobear> of course make sure their permissions are set correctly...
[08:29] <cvp> make sure the permissions are set incorrectly
[08:29] <cvp> ndkk3: then go with foobear's genius idea, cuz he's such a genius and everything
[08:29] <foobear> i was a bell labs admin, when there was still a bell labs....
[08:30] <cvp> oh wow, i was too! when did you work there?
[08:30] <foobear> i just come here for the beer and entertainment anymore..
[08:30] <foobear> hmmm, 94-98
[08:30] <foobear> maybe 99
[08:30] <cvp> i was lying - i just wanted to see if you'd give out personal information on a public IRC channel
[08:30] <foobear> when did we go kerplunk?
[08:31] <cvp> i was, like, in elementary school then
[08:31] <cvp> actually, whoah, i was 6 back in '94
[08:31] <foobear> well im sure you could get one there now...
[08:31] <cvp> feel better now that you know you're talking to some punkass kid?
[08:31] <farous> foobear: just curious when ther still were bell labs?
[08:31] <foobear> well if you need a sysadmin job just let me know....
[08:32] <cvp> foobear: i thought you said it died
[08:32] <cvp> unless you mean a fundamental change in idealogy of the company, such as what happened to Yahoo!
[08:32] <foobear> its pretty much dead.
[08:33] <cvp> that is, no one cares about it anymore?
[08:33] <foobear> worse than that, they outsourced IT to IBM...
[08:33] <cvp> yikes!
[08:33] <farous> foobear: last time i checked they were in Montreal
[08:33] <cvp> so what would a sysadmin job there be like?
[08:33] <foobear> murder is perhaps more appropriate
[08:33] <cvp> whoah, a sysadmin job for bell labs involves killing people?
[08:33] <foobear> they WERE pretty friggin awesome.
[08:33] <cvp> heh, do i even need an A+ cert?
[08:34] <cvp> i'm working towards it... gotten kinda lazy recently, but still casually working on learning the stuff
[08:34] <umar> ubuntu -firefox is having renderring support ?
[08:34] <foobear> flip flops and t's were the attire.  Unless you wanted to wear a polo.  more of those started appearing after the IBM invasion.
[08:35] <foobear> certs weren't important.
[08:35] <cvp> i can juggle kinda well, does that count for anything?
[08:35] <foobear> IBM's not so bad, just different, ALOT different than Bell Labs culture.
[08:35] <cvp> (actually that's just me padding my resume - i've never learned to juggle)
[08:36] <foobear> incredibly important at Bell
[08:36] <Chubbly> hello
[08:36] <foobear> It was a culture, I'm sorry to say, that doesn't exist anymore....
[08:36] <cvp> that's kinda depressing... i've heard of a lot of tech companies taking that same road
[08:37] <cvp> was it the popular reason for decay - becoming more "professional" and proprietary?
[08:37] <cvp> cuz that just kills a good liberal atmosphere
[08:37] <cvp> bringing in the cubicles and polo shirts... yech
[08:37] <foobear> There was nothing quite like bell labs.  I could send my C homework to Dennis Ritchie.  Of course he would tell me to GFM, but at least he would reply.
[08:38] <cvp> haha
[08:38] <nubster> can anyone tell me y i dont have libqt3-mt on my system...and i cant find it in synaptic package manager
[08:39] <cvp> woot, easyubuntu crap is done updating my system, so i think i'll leave when another person joings and make the newcomer feel uncomfortable
[08:40] <cvp> oh shit, ku is here... i'd suggest you guys all go before he bores you to death with his incompetent whining
[08:40] <cvp> i'm outta here
[08:40] <A-L-P-H-A> I'm having a crap of a time trying to connect to my wifi WPA, could someone help me?  I've installed the wpa_supplicaent, and network-manager-gnome.  But nothing shows up to allow me to enter the PSK.  I've manually made a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file, but the PSK isn't liked.
[08:40] <Chubbly> looking for advice about which version of unbuntu to install
[08:40] <foobear> Dapper Drake.
[08:41] <ku> !easyubuntu
[08:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:41] <marcel`> hi, i just installed pure-ftpd whit synaptic but when i try to execute it i get the following msg: Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use.
[08:41] <hangfire> Chubby- go with regular knome ubuntu, unless you really like the KDE enviorment. I dont think Ubuntu goes well with KDE
[08:42] <christianp> hi all
[08:42] <Chubbly> i am setting up a home media server on a really crappy machine
[08:42] <christianp> how can i make a demon (freepopsd) running at start time?
[08:43] <farous> nubster: try asking in kubuntu room
[08:43] <farous> find libqt3-mt
[08:43] <nubster> thanks
[08:43] <ndkk3> when adding a new user, which is the best way to do it, 'useradd' or 'adduser'
[08:43] <ndkk3> ?
[08:44] <marcel`> wauw easyubuntu really sounds great.. is there a reason why is shouldend use it?
[08:44] <foobear> night, guess no one knows anything about ALSA and sound drivers upport here.
[08:44] <nick__> QUESTION: At the login screen, if I scroll to the bottom of the screen, the whole thing goes ....crazy.. and i have to power off or re-login to fix it. Is that the video drivers?
[08:44] <damned[office] > can anybody suggest why X11Forwarding can''t work on ubuntu-server?
[08:45] <foobear> farous: who was in Montreal? Bell Labs?
[08:45] <ic56> ndkk3: adduser is easier (provides more defaults).  adduser invokes useradd
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Silly question?
[08:46] <ndkk3> ic56: ic
[08:46] <damned[office] > seems ssh-server doesn't create .Xauthority in home dir.
[08:46] <farous> foobear: bell labs in canada are located in montreal so when i read your note on that they were gone was just wondering
[08:46] <foobear> adduser is pretty easy.  just don't know if it works if the user names are already in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
[08:46] <ic56> ndkk3: did you daemon (freepopsd) come with an init.d file?
[08:46] <gyaresu> damned(office) You need to run the X server to dish up progs in GUI
[08:47] <ic56> christianp: did you daemon (freepopsd) come with an init.d file?
[08:47] <ic56> ndkk3: sorry, wrong person
[08:47] <Chubbly> what are the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <foobear> I  don't think they're completely gone, just not what it used to me.  FWIW, Bell Labs was everywhere,
[08:47] <Wesker> alguien ha tenido problemas en el arranque con la livecd de ubuntu en e1 pc con radeon 9600
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> Chubbly: what are you trying to run it on?
[08:47] <ic56> !es
[08:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:47] <christianp> ic56: yes, it is
[08:48] <Chubbly> a 550 Mhz, 64MB ram computer
[08:48] <Wesker> ubotu, * No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Est vetado).
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about * No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Est vetado). - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <farous> foobear: i realised that from your conv later. I was gona do some analysis for them but it did not work out
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> Chubbly: i have an mp3 server with  700MHz/128mb RAM and it runs ok, but a little slow. I wouldnt expect much, but it will run.
[08:49] <gyaresu> Chubbly, fine for a server. awefull for a desktop (need more ram) Proc is fine though.
[08:49] <ndkk3> foobear: ok, i created a new user, should i copy all files in /home/ndkk3 as 'cp *' to the new user (/home/dgethot) ?
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> yea, what gyaresu  said, Chubbly
[08:49] <Chubbly> thanks
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> :)
[08:49] <Wesker> ubotu,  try "/j #ubuntu-es"
[08:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about try "/j #ubuntu-es" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> QUESTION: At the login screen, if I scroll to the bottom of the screen, the whole thing goes ....crazy.. and i have to power off or re-login to fix it. Is that the video drivers?
[08:49] <Wesker> ah ok is a bot
[08:49] <ic56> christianp: link the init.d file to /etc/rc3.d  That will cause it to be started when you reach the GUI initlevel.
[08:50] <Chubbly> so... the Ubuntu server version?
[08:50] <fiendskull9> hey
[08:50] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, have you tried a different login manager? gdm kdm xdm etc?
[08:50] <fiendskull9> i screwed up my ubuntu by trying to install nvidia drivers
[08:50] <fiendskull9> how do i recompile x?
[08:51] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  no . Just gdmsetup
[08:51] <farous> fiendskull9: you do not need to recompile it just reinstall it
[08:51] <gyaresu> fiendskull9, What did you do to xorg that you need to recompile?
[08:51] <fiendskull9> how do i reinstall it?
[08:51] <foobear> ndkk3: depends whether you want the user dgethot (whats that all about) to have the exact profile as ndkk3 or not.  FWIW, you REALLY want the .files, like .bashrc and .bash_profile...
[08:51] <farous> fiendskull9: and i think all you need is reconfigure x to use the free driver
[08:51] <fiendskull9> gyaresu, well, i just realized it wasnt drivers
[08:51] <christianp> ic56: in rc5 are there all objects starting with S##. Can i add my link caed freepops or have i to rename it?
[08:51] <ndkk3> foobear: why would i copy all them files if that 'profile' is fucked up?
[08:51] <fiendskull9> I installed it using my monitor (1280x1024)
[08:51] <christianp> s/rc5/rc3
[08:51] <fiendskull9> wait
[08:51] <fiendskull9> nbm
[08:51] <fiendskull9> *nvm
[08:52] <fiendskull9> Ok
[08:52] <fiendskull9> i installed nvidia drivers using a script (dont remmber what)
[08:52] <fiendskull9> and now i reboot
[08:52] <bobbyw> hello. could anyone help me with the driver install on a Radeon 9000 Pro?
[08:52] <fiendskull9> and its telling me an error
[08:52] <fiendskull9> i need to get back to default x11
[08:52] <ic56> ndkk3: "cp *" really isn't what you'd want to do in any reasonable circumstance.  Which files do you want to copy the files from one user to the other anyway?  and why?  Give more details, you'll get more accurate advice.
[08:52] <fiendskull9> not the one with nvidia driver
[08:53] <gyaresu> fiendskull9, all that really matters is your xorg.conf
[08:53] <ndkk3> ic56: i accidentally did 'sudo rm -rf ~'
[08:53] <fiendskull9> ok
[08:53] <gyaresu> fiendskull9, you DID keep a copy didn't you :)
[08:53] <fiendskull9> no
[08:53] <fiendskull9> i wasnt thinking right
[08:53] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  did my xorg.conf get messed?
[08:53] <fiendskull9> i havent used linux for 2 months or so
[08:53] <farous> fiendskull9: no prob sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:53] <fiendskull9> i didnt even remember sudo apt-get update :D
[08:53] <farous> and follow the menu
[08:53] <ndkk3> ic56: instead of /~
[08:54] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, Does it seem to be in a high resolution? The login screen.
[08:54] <ic56> christianp: the link needs to be in the S## format.  S means start.  K means kill.  The number causes the scripts in each directory to be run in teh sequence in which they are numbered.  S-named scripts get the servers started, K-named scripts cause the corresponding servers to be shutdown when that level is reached.
[08:54] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: no it goes really fuzzy, like the monitor is on acid!
[08:54] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, immediately? everytime...
[08:55] <foobear> ndkk3: if you want ndkk3 to have a clean start, `cp /etc/profile /home/ndkk3/.profile ; cp /etc/bash.bashrc /home/.bashrc` and be done with it...
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: just when i move the mouse to the bottom of the screen.
[08:55] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, sounds like your Vert Refresh or Hsynch settings are out...
[08:55] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, ah. odd.
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: AAh.
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> yu[!!
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> yup
[08:55] <metatag> hello all I have tried to install nvidia-glx and I am getting the following when running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" : "Error: your X configuration has been altered." Tried to manually change nv to nvidia but it still does not work
[08:55] <ic56> nkdd3: so you are trying to re-create a user for yourself?
[08:55] <ic56> ndkk3: so you are trying to re-create a user for yourself?
[08:56] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, could be the xorg.conf mouse settings even.
[08:56] <ndkk3> ic56: yes sir
[08:56] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  can i set them to default?
[08:56] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, sorry I can't be more specific.
[08:56] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: not thats ok. should i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:56] <ndkk3> foobear: that's it?
[08:56] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, If you've got a copy of the original file then yep...
[08:56] <ic56> ndkk3: and, presumably you stopped the rm -rf ~ before it destroyed *everything*.  Is that right too?
[08:56] <ndkk3> ic56: yeah
[08:57] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, make a backup of your xorg.conf and yeah. can't hurt...
[08:57] <ndkk3> ic56: i ctrl+c'd
[08:57] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  i'll give it a whirl. Cheers!
[08:57] <metatag> any ideas?
[08:57] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, good luck.
[08:58] <kintaro0e> hi guys..has anyone tried using vnc?
[08:58] <ic56> ndkk3: ok.  When you did adduser, it created a new home directory and copied the standard config files from /etc/skel  Now you'll copy everything that remains in the old directory.  You
[08:58] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: hey..its working now..
[08:58] <metatag> hi gyaresu, I have tried to install nvidia-glx and I am getting the following when running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" : "Error: your X configuration has been altered." Tried to manually change nv to nvidia but it still does not work
[08:58] <kintaro0e> i make vmnet2 adapter
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: cool :)
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[08:58] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:59] <gyaresu> metatag, yeah. I saw. Thinking about it at the mo...
[08:59] <ic56> ndkk3: you'll want to overwrite the standard config files with the ones from your old account so as to get the benefit of any modifications you had made.  Just a sec
[08:59] <kintaro0e> thanks..
[08:59] <kintaro0e> ehehe
[08:59] <ndkk3> ic56: mind if i pm you, this hurts my eyes
[08:59] <foobear> ndkk3: that is the bear neccessities.  should get you started.  Most applications, including X, will recreate their own config files when you first run them.  And assuming you're running a display manager under init you should be all set...
[08:59] <metatag> gyaresu: :)
[08:59] <bobbyw> speaking of graphics cards and X
[08:59] <ic56> ndkk3: go ahead and PM me
[08:59] <bobbyw> I have a Radeon 9000 Pro and it... sucks
[09:00] <`JB> !ops
[09:00] <ubotu> Help! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:00] <gyaresu> metatag, i'm multi-linux-distro boy and do everything manually so sometimes i'm useless at the helper script installs
[09:00] <bobbyw> or at least it appears to running in X
[09:00] <foobear> bobbyw  Yes, it does.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> `JB: /
[09:00] <DBO> `JB??
[09:00] <Hobbsee> `JB: what's up?
[09:00] <foobear> bobby: sell it on ebay and buy an nVidia card...
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> does OO have a Draw application?
[09:00] <bobbyw> foobear: know any way to get it to not suck so much... like so the point where I can watch video in full screen?
[09:00] <xed> now to read the rules!
[09:00] <xed> Huzzaaah!
[09:01] <metatag> gyaresu: ohh.. neverming.. thx :)
[09:01] <thedude> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my old g3 imac
[09:01] <bobbyw> foobear: that's my only option?
[09:01] <gyaresu> metatag, where is the info you're following... I don't mind having a look.
[09:01] <ndkk3> foobear: i don't get what you're saying, init, etc, im kinda new
[09:01] <GG_Allin1> hmmm, seemed to fix my wireless problem (maybe).  all I had to do was add 'gateway 192.168.0.1' to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:01] <gyaresu> metatag, I get the feeling you've done something out of order.
[09:01] <xed> Alright, so I am trying to install Ubuntu on my AMD Athlon 550MHz...
[09:01] <thedude> it only lets me boot live, and every time it finishes loading the screen just turns off
[09:02] <christianp> thanks ic56 :)
[09:02] <xed> So.. I get to the part where it says 'Starting up the partitioner" and it gets stuck at 41%
[09:02] <xed> Is that a common problem?
[09:02] <ic56> christianp: yw!
[09:02] <metatag> gyaresu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:02] <xed> Lets hope crimsun is still around.
[09:03] <xed> Anyone? Anyone know if that's a common problem? the partitioner hanging at 41% ?
[09:04] <metatag> gyaresu: guess I might have tampered the xorg.conf settings before.. is there anyway to get the original copy ?
[09:04] <kouwe> how come, my firefox cant read special chars like 
[09:04] <foobear> ndkk3:  if you type this command... `less /etc/inittab`, you will be looking at THE most important initialization config file in unix (well System V based unixes anyway - like Debian).  That will tell you what order things get started by the Unix initialization process.
[09:04] <thedude> is there a command to go to the intsall screen?
[09:05] <thedude> I keep getting "not valid ELF image"
[09:05] <ndkk3> foobear: i just typed what you have said
[09:05] <foobear> ndkk3: If you want to learn more about this process, read the MAN page on inittab.
[09:05] <ndkk3> cp /etc/profile /home/ndkk3/.profile ; cp /etc/bash.bashrc /home/.bashrc
[09:05] <kouwe> how come, my firefox cant read special chars like   ??
[09:06] <ic56> ndkk3: goodness! don't do that!  /etc/profile is *not* meant to be used as a private .profile
[09:06] <bobbyw> foobear: that's my only option? buy a nvidia card?
[09:06] <metatag> foobear: if I delete xorg.conf would X recreate em for me?
[09:06] <ic56> ndkk3: same for bash.bashrc
[09:06] <xed> Anyone? Anyone help.. at all?
[09:06] <gyaresu> metatag, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:07] <bobbyw> xed: install a new partition program
[09:07] <livingdaylight> xed, not me, i know nothing
[09:07] <metatag> gyaresu: thanks :)
[09:07] <xed> bobbyw: I'm in the middle of the installation of Ubuntu..
[09:07] <kouwe> xed: i got it, but stucked @ 15% each time again
[09:07] <xed> I.. don't think I can do much.
[09:07] <ndkk3> ic56: answer you pm
[09:07] <foobear> ndkk3: inittab tell the kernel what initialization level to boot up into (i.e., single user, multi-user, network/no network, etc.) Think of it like Windoze "Safe Mode", "Safe Mode w/ networking", "Normal", etc.)
[09:07] <xed> kouwe: figure out how to fix it?
[09:08] <ic56> foobear: your advice about copying /etc/profile to ~/.profile is ill advised.
[09:08] <ic56> ndkk3: I just noticed that you aren't registered with nickserv.  This means that you cannot send private messages.  Have you sent me any?  I haven't gotten any from you...
[09:08] <gyaresu> metatag, did you see step four and are installing the right packages for your version of ubuntu?
[09:08] <ndkk3> oh that's why
[09:08] <ndkk3> damn
[09:08] <xed> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[09:08] <xed> That's the latest release, yes?
[09:08] <foobear> metatag: in /etc/X11?  No.  Don't delete anything outside  your /home dir.
[09:08] <kouwe> xed: i installed it on a laptop and disabled a couple things in the boot line -> "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" that worked for me....
[09:08] <ic56> ndkk3: I sent you the above text a few minutes ago as a private message.  Did that get through to you?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: what do you want to get out of your ati card?
[09:08] <ndkk3> nope
[09:09] <ndkk3> ok
[09:09] <ndkk3> i just regg'd
[09:09] <ic56> ndkk3: Ah.  So you can neither send *nor* receive PMs
[09:09] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: no gaming, just xvid quality video playing lagless fullscreen
[09:09] <foobear> ic56: Why is that?
[09:09] <bobbyw> I'm talking 30 fps
[09:09] <ndkk3> nope
[09:09] <thedude>  is there any other way to install this with out booting the live cd
[09:09] <metatag> gyaresu: yep am on dapper.. so I installed nvia-glx only
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: that is possible. I have that working fine with my ati mobility x300
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  yea, reseting xorg did the trick. Thx for your help :)
[09:09] <gyaresu> foobear, metatag renaming or copying the xorg.conf file is fine. even deleting it as long as your happy to reconfigure.
[09:09] <foobear> ic56: He's already deleted his whole home directory...
[09:09] <metatag> gyaresu: *nvidia
[09:09] <thedude> is there an actuall instal screen?
[09:09] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: I'd love you if you told me how.
[09:09] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, stupid computers ;)
[09:10] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  hehe yea!
[09:10] <metatag> gyaresu: ok i'll do that
[09:10] <ic56> foobear: the default ~/.profile should be copied from /etc/skel/.profile
[09:10] <kouwe> xed: if u delete "quiet splash" from the boot line u can see what kind of errors there are at booting the install
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: followed the wiki, and installed the ati binary drivers because I have a laptop, and suspend/resume only works properly with the ati drivers (from ati.com).
[09:10] <ic56> foobear: that is where default config files are kept.  These get installed by useradd
[09:10] <bobbyw> xed: boot the live cd and apt-get another partition tool, see if it loads?
[09:10] <foobear> ic56: Ah, ok then.  Whats the diff between the two, out of curiosity.
[09:10] <ndkk3> any programs i run, it wont run
[09:10] <ndkk3> :/
[09:11] <xed> I'm trying to look through the advanced installation thingies...
[09:11] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: which wiki?
[09:11] <ic56> foobear: give me a minute to deal with ndkk3
[09:11] <xed> it's not going well...
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> !ati > bobbyw
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> that one
[09:11] <ndkk3> i just created a new emergency user, just incase
[09:11] <gyaresu> foobear, one makes you a default home and the other just adds a user to the system
[09:11] <pinky_> Why isn't there an option to change bitdepth in the "Desktop --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution" dialogue box?
[09:11] <pinky_> Is there a GUI way to change from 32-bit color to 16-bit color?
[09:12] <foobear> ndkk3: do what ic56 said then, but you'd probably be ok.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: because you set that in xorg.conf
[09:12] <thedude> can anyone help me?
[09:12] <helpplz> how can I get sound to work in quake3?
[09:12] <gyaresu> xed have you been running an OS previously on this machine? Sounds like dodgy RAM to me.
[09:12] <bobbyw> great, thanks.
[09:12] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: you're my hero.
[09:12] <ic56> ndkk3: cp -rdp <old homedir> <new homedir>
[09:12] <xed> gyaresu: Yes, I had OS running on this machine.. windows xp
[09:12] <gyaresu> thedude, why do you not want the livecd?
[09:13] <pinky_> But I also set resolutions in xord.conf, but I can change them in the GUI if I want...
[09:13] <ic56> ndkk3: this will copy the entire directory hierarchy from the old user to the new user.  It will preserve symlinks and permissions.  Next you need to
[09:13] <thedude> gyaresu: because it loads up, and then the screen turns off
[09:13] <ic56> ndkk3: oh, wait, you need to sudo that cp command
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: how did you set them there?
[09:13] <pinky_> Wy can I not change through the bit depths I have set in xorg.conf like I can resolutions?
[09:13] <ic56> ndkk3: sudo cp -rdp <old homedir> <new homedir>
[09:13] <thedude> gyaresu: it's hard to control the computer when you can't see anything
[09:13] <gyaresu> xed, you get my drift though. you've tried this a couple of times i guess? (could be a dodgy burn cd, try md5sum checking the disk maybe)
[09:13] <pinky_> What, the resolutions?
[09:13] <ndkk3> ok
[09:13] <ndkk3> i just did
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: yes.
[09:13] <gyaresu> thedude, have you tried loading in failsafe?
[09:13] <pinky_> Wrote them in?
[09:13] <ndkk3> ic56: that'll take some time though
[09:14] <pinky_> I have multiple I can toggle through via the GUI in GNOME
[09:14] <xed> gyaresu: sss.. yeah I see what you're saying
[09:14] <ic56> ndkk3: next you need to change teh ownerships to match the new user.  Like so: chown -r <new username>:<new groupname> <new homedir>
[09:14] <pinky_> But how can I make it so bit depth is switchable in the GUI?
[09:14] <pinky_> I mean is this not even possible?
[09:14] <foobear> gyaresu: I can't think of too many more things that I personally hate to do than RE-configuring X and xorg.conf.  Especially if you have an "enhanced" video adapter...
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: I am not aware of a way to change screen depth 'on the fly' only the resolution.
[09:14] <pinky_> That seems silly that X would have to be completely restarted for a bit depth change.
[09:14] <thedude> how do I go about doing that?
[09:14] <kouwe> why cant my firefox display specials chars like "", cause it displays a question mark (?) ..... anyone?
[09:14] <pinky_> Bad design IMO
[09:15] <ndkk3> ic56: you talkin about the dirs or what?
[09:15] <bobbyw> in short: apt-get install xorg-driver-flgrx
[09:15] <bobbyw> wonderful.
[09:15] <ic56> ndkk3: if you don't know the primary group name of the new user, type: id <new usenarname>   It will be reported as "gid"
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: its a server that is serving clients (multiple clients). So in that design, you don't just shift things like bitdepth (which can cause unpredictable results) on the fly.
[09:15] <gyaresu> foobear, i just keep a copy of a fully working xorg.conf lying around for those special moments
[09:15] <foobear> pinky: all you have to do is CTRL-ALT-BKSPC
[09:15] <ndkk3> i see that
[09:15] <ic56> ndkk3: I've said many thing, you'll have be more specific with your question.  What are you confused about?
[09:16] <foobear> gyaresu: I hear that!
[09:16] <gyaresu> thedude, when you boot the cd can you press F2 or F3 for more options?
[09:16] <pinky_> fyrestrtr: Well why is resolution so easily switchable?  Seems just as risky to change on the fly as bit depth...
[09:16] <thedude> no
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: that's how I would justify it :) Its not bad design -- just a different way of doing things. X is a *server* and it serves many clients, one of which is gnome. You could have 15 people running any number of clients off of the same X server. So things like bitdepth -- which can cause things like artifacts -- are not easily switchable.
[09:16] <ndkk3> ic56: i think i should just delete the user ndkk3 and make a new one
[09:17] <ndkk3> all files i had aint shit anyway
[09:17] <ndkk3> i mean they were not that important
[09:17] <Ramunas> hello
[09:17] <gyaresu> thedude, preface your messages with the name of who you are addressing.
[09:17] <ic56> ndkk3: ok.
[09:17] <gyaresu> thedude, gets busy around these parts.
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: don't know about why, but its a good thing to research if you are so inclined.
[09:17] <ndkk3> ic56: what do you think
[09:17] <thedude> gyaresu: sorry
[09:18] <pinky_> fyrestrtr: I shall, but not now.  I want to get my game working =P
[09:18] <gyaresu> Boot in Failsafe mode on the LiveCD folks. Anyone?
[09:18] <xed> would it be possible for me to install it Ubuntu onto an external harddrive being connected via USB ?
[09:18] <foobear> pinky: I suppose you could just do it the M$ way and reboot the server.  Oh, and bring the 150 users attached to that Windows server down with it.
[09:18] <xed> ONTO the harddrive, not FROM it..
[09:18] <A-L-P-H-A> How do I setup ubuntu to allow wifi roaming?
[09:18] <gyaresu> thedude, no probs at all.
[09:18] <bilss_> hi
[09:18] <ic56> ndkk3: dude, it's your files.  What do I care?  If you want help, I'll help you.  If you don't, we're done and that's great too.
[09:18] <ndkk3> ic56: ok if i want to completely delete the user 'ndkk3', what should i do other than: deluser ndkk3 && rm -rf /home/ndkk3 ?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> xed: that would be .... slow, but I think its possible.
[09:18] <jon27kc> Earlier I discussed briefly the memory allocation crash problem with Nautilus.  I found a solution by accident--but I don't know what exactly happened. If interested, my post on the forums is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1296882#post1296882.
[09:19] <xed> Alright...lets try the external then!
[09:19] <bilss_> if i pastebin something is it possible to delete it at some point or is it there for ever
[09:19] <thedude> gyaresu: it just sits at a text prompt for a few seconds and the defaults to live eventually
[09:19] <gyaresu> xed onboard gfx is it? do you have a spare gfx card?
[09:20] <foobear> who can help me configure a sound driver (cmipci) under ALSA to use my joystick.  I've got big scary monsters to kill...
[09:20] <Ramunas> can anybody help me to get winfast tv2000 xp tv-tuner to work?
[09:20] <ic56> ndkk3: you'll also want to remove teh user's mailbox, any cronjobs, hmmm, can't think of anything else right now.  Try find / -name '*ndkk3*' -print   See what it finds
[09:20] <gyaresu> thedude, haven't used ubuntu in a while so I'm not familiar with the boot order but it should have a failsafe mode.
[09:20] <livingdaylight> so, some questions: what is reiserfs?
[09:20] <drega> i'm having a hell of a time restoring grub after a windows install. I've run grub-install /dev/hda and it fails, I've tried to use the installer and mount the partitions to get to the grub install stage and the installer fails. andy ideas?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: a filesystem for linux.
[09:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS
[09:21] <drega> any ideas rather
[09:21] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, and so is ext3 which is what ive always used previously
[09:21] <thedude> gyaresu: I know with other linuxs' I've used it does, but the only thing it offers is "live"
[09:21] <livingdaylight> thx, gyaresu
[09:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, dude. really. some research is required.
[09:21] <xed> Oh what the HELL.. m..GOD DAMNIT
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: its something I believe developed by IBM. Each has its advantages.
[09:21] <ndkk3> ic56: mail, sudo, screen, and that's about it
[09:21] <foobear> livingdaylight: A journaling filesystem for Linux.  One of the first (after ext2).
[09:21] <DBO> !language > xed
[09:22] <ic56> ndkk3: to remove the mailbox, just rm the file in /var/spool/mail/<username>  For crontabs at at jobs, you sould use the command
[09:22] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, but you can install any os using either?
[09:22] <Lopa> where can i find rpms for ubuntu im planning on installing it again :)
[09:22] <ic56> ndkk3: Oh, also print jobs
[09:22] <Lopa> I meant debs
[09:22] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, that's edging into stfw territory ;) not that i would ever say that.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: no, only any linux-based os.
[09:22] <Lopa> any ideas?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Lopa: www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:22] <ic56> ndkk3: you mention "mail, sudo, screen" what's the path you found for each of those?
[09:22] <thedude> gyaresu: I have yet to get any linux to run on this thing, it just absolutely refuses to take it, in some way, shape or form
[09:22] <Lopa> not from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages ?
[09:22] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, that's what i meant : )
[09:22] <foobear> Lopa: Why don't you download the ISO and burn it to CD instead.  Much easier...
[09:22] <gyaresu> HOWTO Boot in Failsafe mode on the LiveCD folks. Anyone?
[09:22] <move> okay, i just changed my xconfig according to that how to and apparently I did something way wrong, x won't load.
[09:23] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, stfw?
[09:23] <move> gyaresu: vga fail safe?
[09:23] <thedude> gyaresu: I have a newer mac and pc and I can get both to run linux
[09:23] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, search the funky web.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: search the fine web
[09:23] <ndkk3> ic56: can i pm you?
[09:23] <gyaresu> move, is it?
[09:23] <Lopa> not from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages ?
[09:23] <jon27kc> ic56, ndkk3 might also want to remove the user from sudoers.  I just did that with a test user, by coincidence.
[09:23] <xed> Man, that bot just owned me
[09:23] <move> gyaresu: yes?
[09:24] <move> hmm
[09:24] <move> what's the name of that file that I just edited
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> jon27kc: just remove from the admin group.
[09:24] <foobear> Lopa: No.  That will come later.  Just get the ISO image first....
[09:24] <move> that's got all the video/mouse configs for x
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> move: take a guess, but its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <move> yes, thx
[09:24] <livingdaylight> its just that i've always used ext, but tried to install suse and kanotix and it seemed they were using reiserfs
[09:24] <xed> why do I get the gun? it's cause I'm black..!?
[09:24] <livingdaylight> and that threw me a little
[09:24] <thedude> gyaresu: I've tried "live video=ofonly" and that doesn't work either
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> thedude: you might need the alternate cd.
[09:25] <xed> awwww yeeee.. just fixed my problem
[09:25] <foobear> Lopa http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:25] <gyaresu> thedude, I'm making this up but (from knoppix) "failsafe" should boot
[09:25] <thedude> fyrestrtr: is it on the download page?
[09:25] <thedude> gyaresu: tried that
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> yes
[09:26] <thedude> gyaresu:no dice
[09:26] <ndkk3> brb
[09:26] <gyaresu> thedude, pci or agp gfx card would be my next try. doesn't seem to like your chip.
[09:26] <ic56> ndkk3: /var/run contains ephemeral files.  They get removed when the process that created them dies.  So don't worry about them
[09:26] <ku> !resolution
[09:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <Desh> Would overclocking a mobile AMD64 Athlon be a bad idea?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Desh: yeah
[09:27] <gyaresu> Desh, is it in a laptop?
[09:27] <Lopa> so for downloading synaptic i would use apt-get install synaptic
[09:27] <Desh> Yes.
[09:27] <gyaresu> Desh would you like to cook it?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Desh: its a *very* bad idea
[09:27] <Desh> Haha no that's why I asked.
[09:27] <dli_> Desh, don't do it
[09:27] <Lopa> ?
[09:27] <gyaresu> Desh, what fyrestrtr said ;)
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Lopa: synaptic comes with ubuntu. Just download the cd image, burn it, and boot from it.
[09:28] <Desh> I was wondering if even a small increase would cause damage?
[09:28] <ic56> jon27kc: good point about removing a user from /etc/sudoers.  Thanks
[09:28] <ku> Hey, what do you guys think is the most used / best music player? I can't stand Rhythmbox
[09:28] <thedude> gyaresu: it's definitly too old for agp, as far as I can remember, it's just an onboard chip
[09:28] <Desh> I wasn;t actually going to, I just wanted to get better opinions than my own.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Desh: if you have money around to purchase a new laptop, sure you can try to fry...I mean, overclock it. But if I were you, I wouldn't.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Desh: good call on getting a second opinion.
[09:29] <Desh> fyrestrtr: haha ok thank. Yeah I was just curious.
[09:29] <xed> Is there any site I can go to check out how well ubuntu runs on certain machines?
[09:29] <move> fyrestrtr: I can't load X anymore so I can't view that wiki page... was I supposted to change the "screen" in the "ServerLayout" to aticonfig-Screen[0]  or in the "screen" section?
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> ku: amarok, bmp, xmms, banshee are some that I have tried.
[09:29] <dli_> Desh, amd k8 laptop cpus already had higher TPD then intel core-duo (or pentium-m)
[09:29] <xed> Anyone?
[09:29] <gyaresu> Desh, the percentage increase you would gain would be offset by heat and battery use. Pretty pointless.
[09:29] <bbrazil> move: use lynx to view the web from the CLI
[09:29] <zerostarhx> grrrr I'm having trouble, I've downloaded a package that wasn't in my apt and used synaptic to extract it to a folder, but i'm having trouble getting it to launch, anyone help?
[09:29] <move> I think common sense tells me in the ServerLayout section
[09:29] <move> ahh, yes lynx
[09:29] <dli_> Desh, if you want speed, wait for merom from intel
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> move: I don't know what you were trying to do?
[09:29] <ku> fyrestrtr: : I liked amarok, not so much xmms
[09:30] <thedude> I had the same probelm with knoppixSTD on my pc
[09:30] <gyaresu> xed don't know one but throw the specs up and what you want to do....
[09:30] <ku> Oh well, I guess i'll just stick with amarok
[09:30] <move> fyrestrtr: err, here
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> oh ati dude.
[09:30] <Desh> dli_: yeah I was looking at those a few minutes ago. Are they much faster than AMD's current dual core mobile processors?
[09:30] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: we're you the one who sent me the link for ati
[09:30] <bobbyw> yeah
[09:30] <gyaresu> zerostarhx, grab the source and compile it yourself.
[09:30] <xed> gyaresu: I have an AMD Athlon 550MHz, with 128MB SDRAM, an SiS 4MB Video card (PCI), and a 10GB harddrive
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: /msg me -- I'll help you get it sorted out.
[09:31] <dli_> Desh, turion x2 is already slower than core duo
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> xed: a 4 MB video card?! My phone has more memory for its video
[09:31] <xed> gyaresu: I just want to put it up as a small computer that I can use as a work station for backup now and then.. and maybe use it as a server?
[09:31] <zerostarhx> Gyaresu: Sorry I'm very new to ubuntu lol I will take some patience :X I'm not sure how to or what you mean.
[09:31] <cool_nick> are there any editors with which i can view .chm files?
[09:31] <dli_> xed, 128MB ram might be the bottleneck
[09:31] <gyaresu> xed, fine. just be a bit slow if you want to run more than a couple of progs. I'd run a lighter Window Manager xcfe etc.
[09:31] <xed> fyrestrtr: It's an old video card, I fu.. messed up the AGP port on that old motherboard, and I am not going to spend money on an AMD 550MHz computer
[09:32] <dli_> cool_nick, xchm
[09:32] <benplaut> anyone here have a toshiba m105 or m100?
[09:32] <xed> dli_: Why do you say that? i mean.. it's not like it's going to be doing much.. =\
[09:32] <foobear> Lopa: Synaptic instantiates apt-get in the background.  Another way to say it is Synaptic is a glorified front-end to apt...
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> xed: you could use it as a gateway/router/server type machine.
[09:32] <gyaresu> zerostarhx, what's the software you are trying to run...
[09:32] <Desh> dli_: Are the duo cores faster that the mobile Athlons?
[09:32] <zerostarhx> Skype for
[09:32] <xed> fyrestrtr: That's pretty much what I plan to do with it..
[09:32] <dli_> xed, try debian, ubuntu might be too heavy for it
[09:32] <zerostarhx> I finally found out what format i needed TBZ or something, if this helps
[09:32] <xed> fyrestrtr: And maybe install some office-like application (maybe open office?) and use it for that..
[09:33] <xed> dli_: too late, already installing ubuntu..
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> cool_nick: sudo apt-get install gnochm
[09:33] <bobbyw> ahh, crap
[09:33] <bobbyw> no pms til I register
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> xed: no, that would not work too good.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: /j #ati-help
[09:33] <gyaresu> dli_, xed I run 450's with 128 and 10GB HDD with xubuntu and it's just fine
[09:33] <dli_> Desh, yes, according to benchmarks, core duo is faster in all area then turion x2, at least almost all area
[09:34] <cool_nick> fyrestrtr: getting this error : E: Couldn't find package gnochm
[09:34] <Desh> dli_: ah ok, thanks. :)
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> !info gnochm
[09:34] <ubotu> gnochm: CHM file viewer for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 636 kB
[09:34] <xed> gyaresu: what's xubuntu?
[09:34] <dli_> gyaresu, can you run ubuntu (or xubuntu ) livecd?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> cool_nick: enable universe and multiverse
[09:34] <romulo> when i get X not entering and the error saying that fixed font could not be loaded, what should i do?
[09:34] <romulo> =p
[09:35] <dli_> Desh, also, turion x2 has higher TPD
[09:35] <gyaresu> dli_, xed you can just get the server version of ubuntu and then install a lightweight WM. Works a treat.
[09:35] <xed> ..WM?
[09:35] <dli_> gyaresu, why not just debian?
[09:35] <gyaresu> xed, sorry Window Manager.
[09:35] <xed> gyaresu: I understand... ....
[09:35] <gyaresu> dli_, Because this is Debian.
[09:36] <ic56> foobear: we were talking about /etc/profile ~/.profile
[09:36] <xed> gyaresu: what is this 'server' installation?
[09:36] <Desh> ok well im out, goodnight/day all. :)
[09:36] <xed> bye bye Desh.
[09:36] <cool_nick> fyrestrtr: still getting the same thing
[09:36] <xed> I just realized I'm installing version 5.04...
[09:36] <gyaresu> xed, just installing the base without  xorg or a window manager. really really small. then you just add what you need.
[09:37] <ic56> foobear: /etc/profile is read first.  It provides the system configuration which is common to all users.  It is owned and managed by the system administrator
[09:37] <xed> gyaresu: I'd need quite a bit of experience with linux to do that, no?
[09:37] <spike> its not that hard
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> cool_nick: did you enable universe?
[09:37] <spike> you just need to know that the server is gonna be used for
[09:37] <xed> spike: you didn't finish...
[09:38] <ic56> foobear: ~/.profile is read second.  It provides private configuration for each user.  Each user owns his own such file and has the freedom to modify it as he pleases.  The initial default is copied by useradd from /etc/skel
[09:38] <ic56> foobear: does that clarify it?
[09:38] <spike> thats about all i had to say, i dont really know what he needs
[09:41] <xed> spike: I just need a small backup machine that can run an office-like application (similar to MS Office), surf the net, and maybe use it as a web server?
[09:41] <helpplz> I get no sound in quake3 how can I fix?
[09:41] <ruiwen> hi guys, is the dapper installation able to resize ntfs partitions?
[09:42] <spike> hrm
[09:42] <Chubbly> i'm in a similar position to xed here
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> !lmsensors
[09:42] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:42] <spike> you need the basic install
[09:42] <Chubbly> xubunutu?
[09:42] <xed> spike: Would it bad if I told you I just pressed enter when the splash screen came up
[09:43] <xed> ?
[09:43] <spike> because your probably gonna want to run OpenOffice.org, its an exellent word proccessor that works great with word
[09:43] <spike> yes
[09:43] <xed> ...well spike, I DID press enter. =(
[09:43] <spike> anyway, just install any version (except edubuntu, i guess)
[09:43] <spike> just restart then
[09:43] <xed> ..oh man
[09:43] <xed> It's like 3:43 AM here
[09:43] <spike> rough
[09:44] <spike> you didnt permantly bonker anything
[09:44] <xed> Not like I'm sleeping till 6 AM anyways, but you know.. it's 3:43 AM!
[09:44] <xed> OH GOD it's DOING things!
[09:44] <xed> random text is flying off of the monitor!
[09:44] <spike> haha
[09:44] <spike> yea
[09:44] <xed> updating maybe?
[09:44] <spike> try a cold powerdown
[09:44] <spike> hold the button
[09:44] <farous> Chubbly: is your system low on resources such as ram speed and disk space
[09:44] <donkeyofdarkness> hello
[09:44] <spike> wait, what do you have installed?
[09:44] <ku> Hmm, is there any way to remove Rhythmbox? When I try to remove it through Synaptic, it makes me delete ubuntu-desktop too
[09:44] <Chubbly> yes
[09:45] <xed> Ubuntu v.5.04...
[09:45] <ruiwen> hi.. is the dapper installation supposed to be able to resize NTFS partitions?
[09:45] <farous> Chubbly: then xubuntu is a good choice
[09:45] <xed> I put in the installation CD, booted.. when splash screen came up.. I pressed enter
[09:45] <dli_> ruiwen, yes, parted can do it
[09:45] <Chubbly> okay, good
[09:45] <Chubbly> thank you
[09:45] <xed> farous: I wish someone would tell me what xubuntu is...
[09:45] <farous> your welcomed
[09:45] <spike> why are you installing 5.04
[09:45] <spike> ?
[09:45] <farous> xed: xface desktop
[09:45] <xed> spike: Because that's the CD that I got in the mail?
[09:45] <spike> farous is probably right
[09:45] <spike> xfce is light
[09:45] <spike> and you can run oo.o
[09:45] <xed> I just realized I finished downloading the latest.. 6.06 version..
[09:45] <spike> and cron to do your backup
[09:45] <spike> good call farous!
[09:46] <farous> :)
[09:46] <ruiwen> dli: i just tried to install it on a friend's laptop though.. but immediately after committing the changes, gparted hightlighted the partitions in black.. which i assume means it's corrupted?
[09:46] <ruiwen> any caveats to resizing NTFS?
[09:46] <farous> i hear there is fluxbuntu now
[09:46] <tabman> how can I change the default OS that grub loads ?
[09:46] <spike> edit the config file
[09:46] <spike> im really bad at that though
[09:46] <iiiears> ku - I din't know why it does that./ - unerving as hell. - i have removed other apps and seen the same message with no obvious harm done.
[09:46] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm having a problem getting my keyboard to work with ubuntu 5.10 for PPC
[09:46] <ruiwen> tabman: edit the "default" line in grub.conf?/menu.lst?
[09:46] <jipi> !nvidia
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <spike> donkey: whats not working right?
[09:47] <xed> I bet all this 'unpacking' the computer is doing would be a lot faster on a faster processor.. .. this 550MHz processor just not that fast. =(
[09:47] <tabman> ruiwen: where is this file ?
[09:47] <donkeyofdarkness> I booted the live cd but the keyboard isn't working at the boot menu
[09:47] <iiiears> ku - "removing ubuntu desktop" is scarey. - anyone know why it does that when you remove something?
[09:47] <ruiwen> tabman: try /boot/grub for menu.lst
[09:47] <spike> xed: go and download xubuntu, itll run on a machine like that, and do everything oyu ant
[09:47] <xed> Hmm.. and it seems that I've also just FINISHED BURNING version 6.06 LTS (whatever LTS means?!?)
[09:47] <ku> iiiears: ok, so it won't do any serious damage?
[09:48] <spike> donkey: this is a usb keyboard, right?
[09:48] <ruiwen> xed: long term support?
[09:48] <iiiears> ku - I am gussing no. - but would really like someone to explain it.
[09:48] <xed> ruiwen: NOW I know! </bill nye the science guy>
[09:48] <benplaut> anyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?
[09:48] <spike> xed: long term support
[09:48] <donkeyofdarkness> It's a PS/2 kb plugged into a PS/2 to usb converter
[09:48] <farous> iiiears: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package (virual package) that depends on all required packages. removing it will not break anything/ It is required thought for dist-upgrade
[09:48] <spike> usb doesnt always work on initial boot up
[09:48] <xed> spike: Where do I get xubuntu?
[09:49] <spike> can you get through it using your mouse and the screen keyboard?
[09:49] <donkeyofdarkness> It's worked in the past, although it only worked about half the time.
[09:49] <spike> xed: ubuntu.com. its a link on the side
[09:49] <xed> spike: it's still unpacking things..
[09:49] <donkeyofdarkness> screen keyboard?
[09:49] <spike> ill give you the direct download link if you want
[09:49] <spike> because it is
[09:49] <iiiears> farous - Ah.. - a bit of light there. - thanks.      Will that change the way i do the upgrade to edgy eft?
[09:49] <xed> Curses! I should've downloaded/burned this!
[09:50] <ruiwen> anyone tried resizing an ntfs partition in the dapper install?
[09:50] <spike> donkey: applications -> accessories > charecter map
[09:50] <Ramunas> can anybody help me to get winfast tv2000 xp tv-tuner to work?
[09:50] <farous> iiiears: it is recommended to have ubnuntu-desktop when you upgrade to edgy. will reduce upgrade problems
[09:50] <deeproot> Hi, I am trying to install courier-imap but apt-get is forcing me to install postfix (as extra package) which I don't need. How can I specify it not to install postfix?
[09:50] <iiiears> farous - nvm - a fresh install is likely the best way to upgrade
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm on PPC
[09:51] <spike> ooo, so your not using the livecd install?
[09:51] <farous> iiiears: you do not need that this is not rpm based packages;) for fresh install will loose all your custom configurations
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> It's ubuntu 5.10
[09:51] <spike> k
[09:52] <ku> farous: so you wouldn't recommend that I remove Rhythmbox? (which forces me to remove ubuntu-desktop in the process)
[09:52] <spike> im not your man then, i think a script would be your best choice if it has to be 5.10
[09:52] <donkeyofdarkness> k
[09:52] <farous> ku you can install ubuntu-desktop just befoe dist-upgrade ;)
[09:52] <xed> spike: thanks a lot man, for this xubuntu reference, and anyone else who referred me to it
[09:52] <xed> Hopefully this'll be faster for my AMD 550
[09:52] <ku> farous: I'll probably forget... i'll just leave it in there for now then ^^ thx
[09:52] <donkeyofdarkness> It'd probably work if I had an apple keyboard
[09:53] <spike> donkey: probably, i think its the kernel not loading the drivers yet/not having them installed
[09:53] <spike> xed: no prod dude, do you need anything else?
[09:54] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah, sometimes even OS X doesn't detect the keyboard or mouse.
[09:54] <xed> spike: what would you say I use that will support most MS Office files?
[09:54] <farous> xed: do you mix a lot of figures and text in your files and do lots of formating and equations
[09:54] <spike> OpenOffice.org, which is very featureful, but uses alot of memory, or if your on a memory budget, AbiWord, which is lighter and supports .docs and whatnot, and uses less memories
[09:54] <xed> fabbione: Yes, sometimes...
[09:55] <spike> xed: use oo,o then
[09:55] <xed> er.. what?
[09:55] <farous> xed: can you forget about msoffice and use a similar package
[09:55] <xed> farous: I don't really think MS Office will work on it.. I just want the files I use to work on it..
[09:55] <xed> for example, power point presentation files?
[09:56] <farous> openoffice will still have some problems exporting and importing from msoffice especially for complicated formats such as equations
[09:56] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, so do you use ext3 or reiserfs?
[09:56] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i solve the liblircclient0 problem?
[09:56] <xed> Hmm.. farous: any other substitute other than open office?
[09:56] <spike> abiword
[09:56] <farous> xed: for powerpoint you will have to adjust your equations a little
[09:56] <farous> xed: but openoffice have the best integration in the linux world with ms office
[09:57] <xed> farous: Alright, thanks a bunch.. Open Office it is..
[09:57] <farous> xed: in my case i had to have absolute compatbility so i run msoffice under linux
[09:57] <spike> xed: hes right, abiword is lighter, but oo.o is alot better if you need more than basic functionally
[09:57] <spike> funtionallity*
[09:57] <xed> farous: what about ..hmm.. say I have a printer installed on a desktop using windows, and I share that printer over the network.. would I be able to use the printer?
[09:58] <spike> yea
[09:58] <farous> xed: depending if your printer is supported
[09:58] <spike> xed: you need to set it up using smb, but itll probably work as long as its not too exotic
[09:58] <A-L-P-H-4> how do I connect to a local win32 computers shared folder/drive?  The destination is already shared, and viewable by other win32 machines.  I've installed samba
[09:58] <livingdaylight> woah
[09:58] <farous> linuxprinting.org to see if it is supported or not
[09:58] <spike> farous: does he need nfs do to that?
[09:58] <spike> alpha that is
[09:59] <xed> spike: what do you mean 'as long as it's not too exotic' ?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: both
[09:59] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, gnome or kde?
[09:59] <farous> spikr my printer is not supported so never actually gone through this config
[09:59] <farous> sorry spike
[09:59] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, gnome.
[09:59] <xed> and what's smb?
[10:00] <benplaut> anyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?
[10:00] <spike> xed: its a networking interface between linux and windows
[10:00] <gyaresu> xed small message block
[10:00] <iiiears> xed - http:\\codeweavers.com\  - MS Office on linux or XEN/QEMU/VMWare Player with windows guest OS  - 1 vote here for VMWare
[10:00] <spike> farous: that means you need to search the ubuntu or linuxquestions.org forums on getting the drivers
[10:00] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, do you want to permanently mount the remote folder?
[10:00] <xed> iiiears: will keep that in mind
[10:00] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, well... I'd like to learn both... perm and temp.
[10:00] <farous> spike: i did my homework it is not supported :)
[10:01] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, smbmount
[10:01] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, both, on the same box? no, that is not possible right?
[10:01] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, it's a laptop (ubuntu) trying to connect to my winXP sp2 workstation.
[10:01] <spike> farous: rough dude, I dont know what to tell you then
[10:01] <farous> spike: nothing i knew that when i installed ubuntu
[10:01] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[10:01] <spike> farous: ive heard of people installing drivers under wine, but i dont know if thats just a myth
[10:01] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, bit different if you're putting it in your /etc/fstab
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: sure it is.
[10:02] <DShepherd> how do I customise the launchers in my places menu?
[10:02] <farous> spike: frankly i doubt it. i dual boot for sccanning and printing which i do frequently
[10:02] <livingdaylight> ok, can someone check my fdkisk -l i want to know if and how i can shave a considerable amount off to create another partition for a dual-boot
[10:02] <farous> so not a biggy here
[10:02] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18843
[10:02] <`paul> doing a command "make" but received "func.c:1:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory" error help pls
[10:02] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, thank you.  now how's it different in the fstab?
[10:02] <spike> farous: no prob
[10:02] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, and a credential file is a handy thing...//slave/stuff   /mnt/stuff      smbfs   credentials=/root/.smb_slave_stuff,auto,rw,dmask=777,fmask=777  0       0
[10:02] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4,  ^^
[10:02] <spike> paul: that sounds like a syntax problem, do oyu have gcc installed?
[10:03] <`paul> where are my stdlib.h etc located?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, huh? so one needn't be consistent with using one system or the other on one machine?
[10:03] <spike> it should have come with gcc
[10:03] <`paul> i think the problem is he cant locate thos files
[10:03] <`paul> @spike
[10:03] <spike> there standard c header files
[10:03] <spike> o
[10:03] <marcus__> Is it possible to play mkv files in linux?
[10:03] <spike> paul: not sure then
[10:03] <MeTa[AwAy] _> why i need liblircclient0 and libc6? if i want to install some codecs it said it needs
[10:03] <xed> I do NOT understand what just happened...
[10:03] <dli_> `paul, get build-essential
[10:04] <gyaresu> marcus__, matroska files... i think so.
[10:04] <MeTa[AwAy] _> but i don't need linux infrared client, because the stable ver is old
[10:04] <marcus__> gyaresu: any idea which player to use?
[10:04] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, thanks.
[10:04] <gyaresu> marcus__, videolan
[10:04] <xed> damnit! I think I just downloaded/burned the LIVE cd for the latest one ! =(
[10:04] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, you're welcome.
[10:04] <marcus__> gyaresu: I'll give it a try and share if it works. Thanks.
[10:04] <gyaresu> marcus__, or mplayer
[10:05] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, What happens when there is no password for a share?  I did sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.100/e
[10:05] <DShepherd> how do I customise the launchers in my places menu?
[10:05] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, username=,password=
[10:05] <`paul> wat do you mean @dli_
[10:05] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, leave them blank
[10:05] <farous> `paul: install build-essential package
[10:05] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, did you go to the loo?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with my partitioning table?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18843
[10:06] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=,password= //192.168.1.100/e" still spits back wrong fs type.
[10:06] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, aye.
[10:06] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
[10:07] <A-L-P-H-4> google is my friend. :)
[10:07] <livingdaylight> my hard drive (sda) is now sda1, sda2 and sda5
[10:07] <farous> `paul: that to install c and other packages you need to compile
[10:07] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you'll not like this but... get another HDD. even a small one. It's just not worth nuking a drive over.
[10:07] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, odd.
[10:07] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, nuking?
[10:08] <iiiears> A-L-P-H-4 - google is a good friend indeed. - could they have made that error message any more cryptic?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, 160 should be plenty to create a dual-boot, no?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, are you suggesting i would destroy it?
[10:08] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, Partitioning is still black magic. Chances of nuking your partition stucture is not worth the greif (if there's anything you want to keep on the 160GB drive that is...)
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: helping someone in another channel. Look, you can have as many partitions as your system can support, each can be of a different type. I have one reiserfs and one ext3. On my server I have a partition type for all the different arch. we use at the company.
[10:09] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, yes. it is as long as it's not your only computer and you care about the data on it.
[10:09] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, /me only ever dual with multiple drives (except my laptops)
[10:09] <xed> "x" won't start
[10:09] <xed> man, ubuntu's getting to me again..
[10:10] <gyaresu> xed, cat /var/log/Xorg.log.blah
[10:10] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, "sudo apt-get install smbfs" fixed it.
[10:10] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, its only a fresh install so nothing precious here, and yes, its my own computer to trash so....
[10:10] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, how can i change from ext2 to ext3 ?
[10:10] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, sorry. my bad. i knew that.
[10:10] <farous> xed: did you install it or is that the livecd
[10:10] <iiiears> xed - Take a deep breath. go to thje fridge for a cold drink and relax we'll get you through this.
[10:10] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, np... you pointed me to smbfs... I didn't even know that... or I forget it at least. :)
[10:10] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you doing xp or another linux?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, wow, each partition can have a different file journaling system
[10:10] <xed> farous: i installed it... and it says "x" isn't located in the right place or something the other and it can't boot it...
[10:10] <snoops> anyone having issues with gaim connecting?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, another linux
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: yes.
[10:11] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, how can i change my linux drive  from ext2 to ext3 ?
[10:11] <farous> xed: is the box you have ubuntu on connected to the net
[10:11] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, df -h
[10:11] <xed> and I just downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and burned it.. and restarted with that in there..and it just says something about "Adding live CD user...".. ...does that mean it's a live cd?
[10:11] <iiiears> xed = "sudo lspci" in the terminal write down what it says about the vga device
[10:11] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i have 160gb but when i install ubuntu why does it come up as 149gb?
[10:12] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, Back it up first and then...
[10:12] <iiiears> xed - feeling nerdy? - try sudo lspci -v
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: do you have any other operating system on it?
[10:12] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, binary v. decimal.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> no need for sudo on lspci
[10:12] <xed> iiiears: going above my head here.....
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> xed: lspci | grep VGA
[10:12] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, marketing department ruined the measurement of HDD's many years ago and it is now just silly cause the drives are so large.
[10:13] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: is it releated with fstab??
[10:13] <xed> fyrestrtr, iiiears: where do I go about typing all this in...?
[10:13] <`paul> how do u search for files?
[10:13] <livingdaylight> gyaresu,  df -h: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18845
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> xed: in a terminal window
[10:13] <xed> man.. what the HELL...
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> `paul: in nautilus or at the terminal?
[10:13] <xed> ..THERE we go
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> !terminal
[10:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:13] <farous> `paul: located filename and find filename
[10:13] <xed> I see a graphical user interface.. I think..
[10:13] <xed> Well.. I see a MOUSE
[10:13] <iiiears> xed -  That ugly (should a been a GUI by now screen) command line
[10:13] <xed> ..on screen
[10:14] <xed> ...that's about it.. I'm guessing it's a live cd
[10:14] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, http://xlife.zuavra.net/columns/20020211/
[10:14] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, no, that is what flumexes me. It says there is 160gb, but when i click to manually partition then it says only 149
[10:14] <xed> because it's going REALLY SLOW
[10:14] <`paul> terminal
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: is your bios detecting it correctly?
[10:14] <xed> I managed to download Ubuntu (the 650MB ISO) in 10 minutes, while this xubuntu is taking me an HOUR...
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> xed: bad mirror
[10:14] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: thanx
[10:14] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you are on a fresh system. partitioning from a LiveCD?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> xed: by the way, why are you downloading the xubuntu iso?
[10:15] <xed> fyrestrtr: link me to a faster one?
[10:15] <xed> fyrestrtr: because.. someone suggested it be better for a slower machine...?
[10:15] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, says 160 and ubuntu installer says 160 and gives me the option to use all of it or to manually partition when i manually partition i see 149
[10:15] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, backupbackupbackupbackup
[10:15] <rpedro_> IRCMonkeyx: or this one: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm
[10:15] <iiiears> xed - bad mnirror? - jeez will it take seven years for him to D/L it?
[10:15] <xed> seven years?!
[10:15] <xed> Oh man, I hope not
[10:15] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, yes, fresh that is i have just installed from liveCD
[10:16] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, partion away then.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> xed: you don't have an operating system installed on there yet?
[10:16] <xed> I tried all the servers, are they all capped to a maximum speed of 125KBps?
[10:16] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: new linux user here, how to backup, any spesific tool for it?
[10:16] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: new linux user here, how to backup, any spesific tool for it?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: you are probably a victim of unit conversion.
[10:16] <xed> fyrestrtr: Apparently NOT but I am SURE that 5.04 finished.. but 5.04 wouldn't.. boot "x", whatever that is..
[10:16] <xed> and then it took me to this screen to login
[10:16] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, sure, that is the slightly tricky part. HOW? or what? sda1?
[10:16] <Hobbsee> IRCMonkeyx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[10:17] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, how big are your drives? how full? etc. "df -h" "fdisk -l"
[10:17] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, well, i'm certainly a victim of something i know that ; )
[10:17] <livingdaylight> ;0
[10:17] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, yes. sda1
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> xed: sorry to tell you this, but you could have saved yourself a lot of hassle, by downloading the alternate install cd, type 'server' at the boot prompt and then typing sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[10:17] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, and i need to make it sdb1?
[10:18] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, nope. 'serial disk a partition 1'
[10:18] <xed> " 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX Mach64 GX]  (rev 01) "
[10:18] <iiiears> xed - when ya get to the darn blues screen that tells you how bad the xserver setup went, take a deep breath a cold drink of soda and use the info from lspci about bus ID 0.01.0  - (looks like that tho yours may be different)
[10:18] <xed> I get that when I type in "lspci | grep VGA in the terminal window
[10:19] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, ok, you lost me
[10:19] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i am on xp now, but my linux drive is 14.42 gb and it is new may be 3-4 gb, i have winmodem no connection from ubuntu
[10:19] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i am on xp now, but my linux drive is 14.42 gb and it is new may be i have data 3-4 gb, i have winmodem no connection from ubuntu
[10:19] <xed> iiiears: You lost me with the .. bus ID
[10:19] <cotroler> Hi guys just rebooted i got this error: EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) any help?
[10:19] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, you said sda1 needs to be used. so, i gotta rename what i remove so to speak
[10:19] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you need a 'serial disk a partition 2' and you'd be best doing that from a GUI Partioner like Gpart off a live disk.
[10:20] <iiiears> xed - then know you are going to have a working system in the time it takes to type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and answer a few questions at the prompt
[10:20] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i can use cfdisk ?
[10:20] <xed> iiiears: so you would like me to type in.. what?
[10:20] <BeBraw> how can i configure calendar to show dates in different order?
[10:20] <xed> I think I'm in a live version of this right now
[10:20] <benplaut> anyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?
[10:21] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i'm also looking at Gparted on my system System/Admin/Gnome Partition Editor
[10:21] <iiiears> xed - It's gonna look something like "0.01.0"   plug those numbers you got form lspci into the sudo dpkg xserver-xorg thingy
[10:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, not good to cut a circular hole in the floor while your sitting in the middle ;)
[10:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, ^^
[10:21] <iiiears> xed - lspcii
[10:21] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, two computers?
[10:21] <xed> iiiears: When I type in "lspci | grep VGA" into the terminal, I get  " 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX Mach64 GX]  (rev 01) "
[10:21] <iiiears> lspci - eye canned spell
[10:22] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, ooops....is it like sawing a branch off a tree while sitting on the wrong side of it?
[10:22] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: one computer , two OS
[10:22] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, indeed.
[10:22] <livingdaylight> he is confused, only utterly
[10:22] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, ah. two drives?
[10:22] <xed> iiiears: what do I do with this information?
[10:22] <MeTa[AwAy] __> !audacious
[10:22] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i understand the metaphor but not in the context of our discussion
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacious - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:23] <cotroler> !EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found)
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:23] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, can i use cfdisk to partition or shave off sda1 and then resinstall ubuntu if i had to?
[10:23] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you can't do the partitioning from the OS because you only have one partion where all the progs etc are running from.
[10:23] <iiiears> xed - plug the numbers in there.  to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - or grab a gander at a couple of examples from folks with ATI cards on the web and copy the bus id line
[10:24] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i have C and D drives as windows, E drive is ubuntu, and one more drive for swap
[10:24] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, so why do they give and put gparted in the software if it can't be done from within?
[10:24] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you have to unmount the partitions on a drive to partition it. you only have one drive.
[10:24] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, ^^
[10:24] <xed> iiiears: but .. I think I ..MIGHT be running a live ..version of the CD.. so should I still do that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing?
[10:25] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, aguess, this is is beyond a noob like me to figure out *sigh*
[10:25] <iiiears> xed - sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     is the file that stores info for display keyboard and mice
[10:25] <livingdaylight> :s
[10:25] <livingdaylight> Hey, anyone here from London wanna partition my harddrive?!
[10:25] <livingdaylight> i make a good cup of tea!
[10:26] <iiiears> xed - Okay, i got to admit it. - now you have me confused, - not that hard really when it comes down to it.
[10:26] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, only 15GB on the linux drive eh? and do you have the Windows ext2 driver installed? i.e. can you read the E: drive?
[10:26] <necrotic> How can I get the kernel sources with apt-get?
[10:26] <livingdaylight> got a few cool ones in the fridge too if that is more the thing ;)
[10:26] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you just need to do the partitioning from a LiveCD
[10:26] <xed> iiiears: when I meant "live version of the cd", I actually meant to say "live version of Ubuntu"
[10:27] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, go to distrowatch.org and get the latest gparted partioning CD if you have any bandwidth.
[10:27] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, ok, so any LiveCD gparted partition and then re-install all the os's
[10:27] <xed> iiiears: I installed Ubuntu v 5.04, and "x" wouldn't come up.. some blue ..screen .. some errors or whatnot.. and then I put in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS into the cd-rom and rebooted.. I think it MIGHT be the LIVE CD...
[10:27] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, bandwith is no problem
[10:27] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i cant read drive E from windows, but i can read and write to windows from ubuntu
[10:27] <iiiears> xed - erm - i guess the option is to D/L the alternate version (text install) there just has to be a better answer. - someone else has to know it.
[10:27] <farous> xed: you can not do anything untill ubuntu is installed on the harddisk
[10:27] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, no need to reinstall the current one. you're just shrinking sda1 and adding sda2 sda2 etc.
[10:27] <CyDrive> Can anyone reccomend a good webcam video capture and picure program
[10:28] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, will it ruin my ubuntu installation if i reduce sda1 which effectively has been all alocated to ubuntu
[10:28] <farous> !easycam
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about easycam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:28] <farous> !find easycam
[10:28] <ubotu> No packages matching 'easycam' could be found
[10:28] <CyDrive> ok
[10:28] <xed> iiiears: what if I booted into 5.04, and got into the console and did that sudo dpkg or whatever you told me to do earlier?
[10:28] <xed> iiiears: would that work?
[10:28] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, it might. but it shouldn't it does as you say 'shave off' some empty space.
[10:29] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, fat32 partition on window eh? that'll do the trick.
[10:29] <farous> !cam
[10:29] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:29] <farous> there you go
[10:29] <iiiears> farous - Psst. psst, don't tell xed but there has got to be a way to start the install.sh script from CLI. - i dunno] 
[10:29] <kevinz> hello.. i have a weird problem. I used to use rhythmbox. The quality of mp3 playing is changing.. at the very beginning the effect is good, after installing some gstream plugins i feel that it was not as good as before, but i have no proof for it. Today I try to use amarok and install xine lib, the music from amaroK is significantly better from rythmbox, but that's why?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, right, but about adding sda2 etc don't i have to assign a differnet name? sdb1 sdc1? etc?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i already have sda1 and sda2 and sda5
[10:30] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: drive c iis ntfs,drive d is fat32,drive e is ext2
[10:30] <iiiears> xed - if you have an option to do that without a long wait to finish a download i would do it.
[10:30] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: drive c is ntfs,drive d is fat32,drive e is ext2
[10:30] <notjosh110> i've hada google around.. but does anyone know a decent guide for configuring sympa (and wwsypma) on ubuntu (dapper)?
[10:30] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, that is ubuntu. For another partition for a nother os i need to rename and make it sdb or something, no?
[10:30] <xed> iiiears: What's the point of installing Ubuntu again.. i already have it installed, I just don't have x working.. and when it doesn't work.. it just takes me into this text mode only thing
[10:30] <farous> iiiears: OK will not tell him for i do nto know how
[10:30] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, not from the link you sent you don't. link again "fdisk -l"
[10:30] <farous> iiiears: PSST psst remind me of how my daughter call me all day
[10:31] <iiiears> xed - dude - i am confused again. - are you using the live cd in RAM or a disk install.
[10:31] <ghostghost> hi i'm trying to kill a process using kill pid but i wont die, is there as more aggressive way of dispatching it?
[10:31] <xed> iiiears: currently in the live cd..  but I DO have Ubuntu installed it seems.. just that 'x' isn't working
[10:31] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18846
[10:31] <iiiears> xed - grab the bus id number from lspci
[10:32] <xed> yeah, I copied/pasted and emailed it to myself when I was using live cd
[10:32] <ghostghost> something really nasty like destroy_kill_megadeath pid?
[10:32] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, like if it was hda1 and hda2 and hda5 for ubuntu; the next partition for another os would be hdb1 hdb2 etc, right?
[10:32] <xed> iiiears: I typed in lspci into the terminal, then copied and pasted the results into an email I sent to myself
[10:32] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, so for backing up (if you have everything in home) you need to cp everything (recursive preserve etc.) to the fat32 partition
[10:33] <iiiears> xed - then use that number to edit    /etc/X11/xorg.conf or run that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  mantra
[10:33] <xed> iiiears: mantra?
[10:33] <iiiears> xed -  it's a prayer to the computer gods.
[10:33] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, cool. so you need sda3
[10:33] <xed> fair enough
[10:34] <iiiears> xed - honestly - you will have your desktop in less than 15 mins
[10:34] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, the a is for 'a drive' and b would be for a different drive.
[10:34] <xed> iiiears: well, if this doesn't work.. I'm just hoping that when I put in this xubuntu ISO cd into the drive.. that I can just overwrite and install it quickly and without any problems...
[10:34] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, but that is still part of the sda family; what i'm asking is dont i need to creat another family/house say sdb
[10:34] <gyaresu> !partition
[10:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:35] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[10:35] <xed> This is interesting
[10:35] <kane77> hi, how can I terminate unwanted internet connection...???
[10:35] <DShepherd> does previewing sound files work for anyone?
[10:35] <DShepherd> does previewing sound files in nautilus work for anyone?
[10:35] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, One drive == One letter.
[10:36] <dobblego> I have 2 x SATA drives, both with a Ubuntu image on them; each time I boot, the image that I *don't* want to use is booted (/dev/sda1); how can I boot the other disk (/dev/sdb1)?
[10:36] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, sdb* would be a second sata drive.
[10:36] <gyaresu> dobblego, got grub installed?
[10:36] <dobblego> gyaresu, affirmative
[10:36] <Elak> dobblego, leave temporanely sda :)
[10:36] <Desh> How do I check my CPU's FSB?
[10:36] <farous> dobblego: you normally set that from the bios
[10:36] <dobblego> Elak, I don't follow that
[10:37] <dobblego> farous, ok, I might take a look
[10:37] <farous> dobblego: this is your boot order
[10:37] <gyaresu> dobblego, you just need to change the grub.conf and update grub
[10:37] <xed> iiiears: "Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed an no info is available."
[10:37] <gyaresu> !grub
[10:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:37] <farous> dobblego: you can do it another way is to change the menu.lst in /boot/grub
[10:38] <helpplz> how can I use ALSA wrapper for oss apps? I dont even know what to download
[10:38] <xed> iiiears?
[10:38] <gyaresu> dobblego, farous thanks. yes. menu.lst is indeed the file.
[10:38] <iiiears> xed -  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - was that the command ?
[10:38] <dobblego> farous, I want to blast away the other disk
[10:38] <xed> yes
[10:38] <xed> iiiears: yes
[10:38] <Delgul> Hi, I keep getting "perl: warning: Setting locale failed" warnings in dapper drake. dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work. Any ideas?
[10:38] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: is there any simple way to move all, from ubuntu to fat32 drive ?
[10:38] <farous> dobblego: what do you mean by blast away
[10:38] <gyaresu> helpplz, have you read the alsa howto? alsa-oss is pretty normal these days.
[10:39] <dobblego> farous, rm -rf /
[10:39] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i mean if i do cp when i am home directory, is it enough?
[10:39] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i mean if i do cp when i am at home directory, is it enough?
[10:39] <farous> dobblego: where is grub installed is it installed on both harddisks
[10:39] <Zenth> Hi
[10:39] <iiiears> xed - check the command for tipos. - erm teyepos - i mean typos
[10:39] <helpplz> gyaresu: nope.. it maybe pretty normal but im new to linux and trying to get sound in quake running <3
[10:39] <Hobbsee> i wish people *wouldnt* give otu that command.
[10:40] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, if that's where you have stored all your personal files then yeah. but it's gonna be like "cp -rvfp" something_something.
[10:40] <farous> Hobbsee: you made a mistake
[10:40] <iiiears> hobbsee - Which command?
[10:40] <Hobbsee> iiiears: the one to remove absolutely everything
[10:40] <gyaresu> helpplz, ah-ha. wait one.
[10:40] <farous> Hobbsee: he was telling me he want to remove one of his hardisks
[10:40] <dobblego> wtf?
[10:40] <xed> iiiears: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is not installed"
[10:40] <Hobbsee> dobblego: sorry, my mistake
[10:40] <Hobbsee> dobblego: didnt want a new user to misuse that command though
[10:41] <Zenth> I have one question... is posible to configure Nautilus to show the filenames shortened?
[10:41] <farous> dobblego: she thought you were giving bad advise
[10:41] <iiiears> Hobbsee - "Perma ban" - with a bag 'O chips
[10:41] <helpplz> gyaresu: wait one second?
[10:41] <farous> dobblego: cheers :)
[10:41] <gyaresu> helpplz, yep.
[10:41] <dobblego> ok
[10:41] <helpplz> gyaresu: alrighty
[10:41] <farous> dobblego: where is grub installed is it installed on both harddisks
[10:42] <dobblego> farous, I just swapped the SATA cables and it seems to work :)
[10:42] <Hobbsee> iiiears: nah, i wasnt going to leave it there permanetnly
[10:42] <iiiears> xed - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <dobblego> at least, the right disk is making noise
[10:42] <xed> iiiears: that's what i typed in
[10:42] <farous> ok so you have it on both. you could have done that by changing the boot order from bios :)
[10:42] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: cp -rvfp ?? is it correct rvfp? i havent hear it until now
[10:42] <dobblego> yep - swapping the cables worked
[10:43] <dobblego> farous, yeah I fiddled in BIOS, which is where I got the idea to swap the cables, cheers :)
[10:43] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, man cp (i'll have a look too)
[10:43] <farous> cheers :)
[10:43] <iiiears> xed - Darn machine. - take a minute to stretch and take a sip of water.
[10:43] <xed> iiiears: alright, doing so now... I guess...
[10:43] <xed> iiiears: you restarting?
[10:43] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: ok sir, i do it, thanx
[10:44] <bunta> Morning folks :P (Its morning time in the UK :P) Is it possible to play movie files in firefox in linux?
[10:44] <bunta> you know, the ones that are embemended in sites etc..
[10:44] <bobbyw> yep
[10:44] <BeBraw> bunta: have you tried easyubuntu?
[10:44] <bunta> easyubuntu? :o
[10:44] <farous> bunta: you will need mozilla-mplayer or totem-mplayer packages
[10:44] <bobbyw> I'm rather sure using ubuntu you can do it with easybuntu or even better, automatix
[10:44] <bunta> I've tried mozilla-mplayer
[10:44] <bunta> nothing actually shows up =/
[10:45] <farous> bunta: is it realplayer file
[10:45] <iiiears> xed - Hobbsee - you just gotta help me with this. - i am out ideas to relate
[10:45] <bunta> no
[10:45] <bunta> wmv
[10:45] <bunta> The plugin doesnt show up
[10:45] <xed> Hobbsee?
[10:45] <farous> bunta: strange did you restart firefox after installing the plugin
[10:45] <xed> are you sure this Hobbsee isn't afk?
[10:45] <xed> ah
[10:45] <xed> well Hobbsee, what say you?
[10:45] <bunta> yeah, I'm using swiftfox..
[10:45] <Bergcube> bobbyw~  In my personal experience:  EasyUbuntu = Good.  Automatix = Bad.  I've tried both (on different computers).  One of them munged the system, one did not.
[10:45] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: last question, is there any chance to see ubuntu drive read/write from windows, c is ntf, d is fat 32, e is ext2
[10:46] <Hobbsee> xed: sorry, what's the problem?
[10:46] <iiiears> xed - i could type sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg     again it won't help.  (WAIT! i just did type it again)
[10:46] <farous> bunta: the plugin is under /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[10:46] <bunta> I did the ln thing.. * checks again *
[10:46] <CanadaGradeEh> Quick, hopefully simple question:
[10:46] <CanadaGradeEh> How do I log in as admin?
[10:46] <farous> bunta: you can point your browser to search there for the plugins
[10:46] <CanadaGradeEh> I had to edit a file in usr/share/java and it wouldn't let me
[10:46] <iiiears> xed someone else has to bail me out.
[10:47] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, yeah there is an ext2/3 driver for xp (google, it's near the top) but i always seem to need to fsck after rebooting. so not the prefered way of doing things.
[10:47] <farous> !sudo > CanadaGradeEh:
[10:47] <xed> iiiears: I see what you're saying.. you're saying I'm screwed.
[10:47] <CanadaGradeEh> Thank you
[10:47] <farous> !sudo > CanadaGradeEh
[10:47] <CanadaGradeEh> I can't log in from the session screen?
[10:47] <xed> iiiears: You're also saying I should just install XP on this machine and give up all hope on life?
[10:47] <bobbyw> automatix, when it works correctly, which it did for me, has more software so I like it more :P
[10:47] <iiiears> xed - i amn just thinking there has to be a simple typo. - but i don't know where.
[10:47] <farous> CanadaGradeEh: you need sudo for su privlages
[10:47] <xed> maybe it's the location I'm in?
[10:48] <gyaresu> helpplz, I've got this one in a script I use to start quake "quake4 +set s_driver oss  CMI8738MC8 +set s_numberOfSpeakers 2"
[10:48] <CanadaGradeEh> That's it? I have to do all my admin work through command line?
[10:48] <xed> it says on the screen "nauman@ubuntu550:~$"
[10:48] <helpplz> gyaresu: I use quake3 though.. would that still work?
[10:48] <iiiears> xed - it's late and likely we are both a little tired
[10:48] <dobblego> what's the command to format a disk?
[10:48] <CanadaGradeEh> Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy to leran and use command line with time. I wouldn't be using Ubuntu if I wasn't
[10:48] <CanadaGradeEh> but right now if possible I'd just like to drag, drop, copy, paste, etc using folders and the gui
[10:48] <farous> CanadaGradeEh: it is not wise to do it graphically
[10:48] <CanadaGradeEh> ok =\
[10:49] <bunta> okey I just coppied all the plugins from that directory to swiftfox's
[10:49] <farous> CanadaGradeEh: you can do that with sudo
[10:49] <CanadaGradeEh> Guess I gotta learn the command line for my thingy I wanna do
[10:49] <bunta> lets try now :p
[10:49] <tzard> ubuntu is a biased distribution, favoring Gnome, which sucks to me, it doesn't give me the option from the beginning to choose my desktop
[10:49] <farous> CanadaGradeEh: sudo nautilus to drag and drop in graphical mode
[10:49] <marcus__> gyaresu: Yes mkv does play in VLC. Thanks for the help. :)
[10:49] <CanadaGradeEh> Thank you
[10:49] <farous> CanadaGradeEh: gksudo gedit to edit files in graphical env
[10:49] <gyaresu> marcus__, good news :)
[10:49] <DaveyJ> tzard: get kubuntu, problem solved
[10:49] <Hit3k> tzard, there are other ubuntu distrobutions
[10:49] <farous> :)
[10:49] <xed> iiiears: what do you suggest? do you suggest I give up on life?
[10:50] <xed> Hobbsee is clearly not here.
[10:50] <marcus__> gyaresu: Definitely good news
[10:50] <bunta> Odd..
[10:50] <bunta> swiftfox crashes
[10:50] <gyaresu> helpplz, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=260975
[10:50] <iiiears> xed - nah -take a minute and see if there isn't a typo
[10:50] <bunta> Very weird x.x
[10:50] <xed> iiiears: already did
[10:50] <gyaresu> helpplz, the NOT RECOMMENDED bit is what i was looking for. should fix it.
[10:51] <dobblego> is there a command to format a disk? it seems difficult to google it
[10:51] <CanadaGradeEh> Thank you very much, farous. That was simple :)
[10:51] <Hit3k> dobblego, rm -rf /dir/to/disk
[10:51] <gyaresu> dobblego, mkfs.vfat etc...
[10:51] <dobblego> gyaresu, cheers
[10:51] <Hit3k> oh
[10:51] <xed> iiiears: do I have to be in a certain directory to do this?
[10:51] <Hit3k> format
[10:51] <CanadaGradeEh> So 'sudo insertapphere' will allow me root powers to the app I specify?
[10:51] <Hit3k> i thought you meant
[10:51] <farous> man mkfs dobblego
[10:51] <Hit3k> FORMAT
[10:51] <helpplz> gyaresu: I dont remember if one of those was the same command I tried but when I tried it the sound worked and when I tried to enter a game it would freeze like a screen shot
[10:51] <iiiears> xed - no, it should work from anywhere.
[10:52] <gyaresu> dobblego, if you want fat though you'll need dosfs-tools (or some such name)
[10:52] <xed> iiiears: well according to this.. it's not even installed, so how do I go about installing it?
[10:52] <farous> CanadaGradeEh: you got it
[10:52] <iiiears> xed    had you seen this link?
[10:52] <helpplz> gyaresu: I mean awhile back..
[10:52] <kangacunt> hello
[10:52] <iiiears> !display
[10:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:52] <kangacunt> how do i get gcc up and running on ubuntu?
[10:52] <farous> kangacunt: install build-essential
[10:53] <Hit3k> apt-get install build-essential
[10:53] <CanadaGradeEh> What an appealing name.
[10:53] <CanadaGradeEh> Kangacunt :P
[10:53] <gyaresu> helpplz, did you try installing other sound servers like arts etc. ? cause that may also have been why it didn't work.
[10:53] <helpplz> gyaresu: even the person on there had the same isse
[10:53] <bobbyw> or even easier sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:53] <kangacunt> i tried apt-get gcc
[10:53] <kangacunt> but it wont compile anything
[10:53] <CanadaGradeEh> !gcc
[10:53] <gyaresu> kangacunt, how about a nick change thanks.
[10:53] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:53] <helpplz> gyaresu: no I havent.. how might I do it?
[10:53] <xed> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[10:53] <xed> What's "Hoary Hedgehog" ?
[10:53] <gyaresu> helpplz, no don't.
[10:53] <bobbyw> an older version of ubuntu
[10:53] <helpplz> gyaresu: install arts etc.?
[10:54] <Hit3k> xed, the name of the distrobution
[10:54] <bunta> How do I remove a ln?
[10:54] <iiiears> xed - I am still here to help where i can.
[10:54] <kangacnt> ok its changed :)
[10:54] <gyaresu> helpplz, throwing more at it isn't the answer it just makes it more messy. part of the problem of 'trying everything'
[10:54] <kangacnt> now how can i get gcc working
[10:54] <kangacnt> please
[10:54] <gyaresu> bunta, which ln?
[10:54] <ic56> bunta: rm <pathname>
[10:55] <xed> "I cannot start X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"   <Yes> | <No>
[10:55] <bunta> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .
[10:55] <cool_nick> whenever i use this command : sudo apt-get install **** i get the following message : E: Couldn't find package ****, any suggestions?
[10:55] <bunta> That LN
[10:55] <gyaresu> bunta, if it's a folder then when you 'rm' it don't have the trailing slash: e.g. "rm /home/me/link"
[10:55] <helpplz> gyaresu: well I thought the alsa wrapper may help it out cause it sais that same sound error everyone gets and with the help of the wrapper it would allow access to /dev or w/e.. unless you know of another way
[10:55] <bunta> I want to remove that link :p
[10:56] <kangacnt> hello how do i get gcc running on ubuntu?
[10:56] <Hit3k> cool_nick, it means the package isnt found it'd help if we knew what you wanted
[10:56] <bunta> Its the wrong long, so I need to remove it.. it shud be sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/* .
[10:56] <ic56> bunta: sudo rm <pathname>
[10:56] <gyaresu> bunta, "rm /usr/lib/blah/plugins" *no trailing "/"
[10:56] <xed> iiiears: I can show you the error if you want...
[10:56] <Hit3k> kangacnt, sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:56] <sun_> Hi All..is there free DVB-IPI server s/w in ubuntu ?..any one help me to get info
[10:56] <bunta> thanks :)
[10:57] <xed> iiiears: Can I PM you?
[10:57] <cool_nick> Hit3k: acroread, azureus
[10:57] <Hit3k> apt-cache search azureus?
[10:57] <bunta> its a directory
[10:57] <ic56> bunta: careful, gyaresu's instruction is probably *not* what you wanted
[10:57] <bunta> I dont want to remove the directory
[10:57] <iiiears> xed - pastebin
[10:57] <bunta> I want to remove the symlink
[10:57] <iiiears> !paste
[10:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:57] <ic56> bunta: sudo rm <pathname>
[10:58] <bunta> What do u mean by pathname? as in: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ ?
[10:58] <gyaresu> cool_nick, azureus is rubbish. java is a memory hog. try rtorrent or ktorrent or something else.
[10:58] <ic56> bunta: no.  I mean the target which your ln -s command created
[10:58] <arooni> hey folks.... when i try to grep like.... grep $$ -r .     ... even though there are files with '$$' in them, grep wont work
[10:59] <bunta> oh k, so this: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .
[10:59] <gyaresu> ic56, bunta "ls -al /usr/lib/mozilla/"
[10:59] <xed> iiiears: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18847
[10:59] <iiiears> xed - Okay! :)
[10:59] <bunta> o.o
[10:59] <arooni> can someone help me grep properly?
[10:59] <bunta> its fine.. I'll make another symbolic link
[10:59] <ic56> bunta: the ln -s command created symlinks in . (= your current directory).  Use "ls" to see what symlinks it created
[10:59] <Vratha> hello!
[10:59] <xed> iiiears: does that help at all?
[10:59] <gyaresu> ic56, bunta find which one is the link. make sure. then remove it if you wish. if it's a link to a directory then you need to remove the slash at the end.
[10:59] <CanadaGradeEh|BU> Hello, Vratha
[10:59] <cool_nick> gyaresu: but, what what bout the error?
[11:00] <GG_Allin1> how do I install KDE in ubuntu?
[11:00] <gyaresu> arooni, grep? in what way?
[11:00] <Vratha> any of you installed dapper drake and gotten to gdm only to enter a username and have it freeze when you hit "enter"?
[11:00] <gyaresu> cool_nick, sorry. didn't see the error.
[11:01] <arooni> gyaresu: i know that the '$$' is found in the files.. but i think i need to escape it someway
[11:01] <CanadaGradeEh|BU> Hmm, I can't say I have. Sorry I can't help you, Vratha.
[11:01] <iiiears> xed - It sure does. - now i now absolutely and positively how new and uninformed i am - never seen that before
[11:01] <CanadaGradeEh|BU> I actually thought I might be able to considering how damn many problems I've encountered
[11:01] <cool_nick> gyaresu: i've selected the universe and the multiverse option, but still. . .
[11:01] <yelek> can anyone help a brotha out with a simple (i think) question
[11:01] <iiiears> xed - hobbsee hobbsee - you got to help.  xed see the pastebin link
[11:01] <xed> iiiears: So you're telling me that you can't help me?
[11:02] <xed> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18847
[11:02] <gyaresu> arooni, example?
[11:02] <CanadaGradeEh|BU> Someone help the man :D lol
[11:02] <CanadaGradeEh|BU> (02:00:15) Vratha: any of you installed dapper drake and gotten to gdm only to enter a username and have it freeze when you hit "enter"?
[11:02] <Flannel> cool_nick: are you sure it's in the repository?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> xed: eek? where does your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf point to, and is it the right place?
[11:03] <cool_nick> gyaresu: yep
[11:03] <xed> You're going to have to explain to me what ...that means..
[11:03] <Flannel> cool_nick: which package you looking for?
[11:03] <bunta> Okey
[11:03] <bunta> the plugins load up
[11:03] <bunta> but.. I get no picture
[11:03] <bunta> as in the words.. no picture
[11:03] <xed> Hobbsee: I have gdm.conf open right now, I just don't know what ..where to look
[11:03] <cool_nick> Flannel: azureus, acroread
[11:04] <Flannel> GG_Allin1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <Hobbsee> xed: i dont know either.  iiiears, what does your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf look like?
[11:04] <Badm4n> is zebra is good for ubuntu breezy "
[11:04] <Badm4n> ?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> iiiears: and how does it compare with xed's?
[11:04] <Flannel> cool_nick: azureus isn't in the repositories, but there is a howto.  acroread is.
[11:04] <xed> iiiears: ...?
[11:04] <iiiears> hobbsee - okay, - it is nVidia. - i guess t looks a bit different
[11:05] <GG_Allin1> ok, thanks.  I can add KDE to ubuntu and choose which desktop (Gnome or KDE) from the login menu can't I?
[11:05] <helpplz> gyaresu: am I dead in the water then? are you not there anymore
[11:05] <Hobbsee> iiiears: i've got absolutely no idea - i dont even have gnome/gdm installed
[11:05] <iiiears> never seen a bus ID listed  0.0F.00
[11:05] <Hobbsee> GG_Allin1: yes,k you can
[11:05] <JohnRobert> does anyone know if the 6.06 LTS live cd has reiserfs support included in it's kernel by default?
[11:05] <cool_nick> Flannel: i tried  sudo apt-get install azureus but i'm this error : E: Couldn't find package azureus
[11:05] <zcat[1] > JohnRobert: yes
[11:05] <Flannel> cool_nick: right, because azureus isn't in the repositories
[11:05] <gyaresu> helpplz, i'm here but also doing some 'real' work. what's going on?
[11:06] <zcat[1] > I think so anyhow..
[11:06] <JohnRobert> so I don't need to pass the kernel a reiserfs flag?
[11:06] <JohnRobert> or switch or arguument or param or whatever
[11:06] <iiiears> ususally for nVidia it's 0.01.00   or 00.02.00
[11:06] <xed> so what you're telling me is that I'm screwed?
[11:06] <zcat[1] > fairly sure it does since it can install to reiserfs
[11:06] <helpplz> gyaresu: the q3 no sound? I didnt know you ended the convo.
[11:06] <cool_nick> Flannel: but, in the howto's this is the command for installing azureus
[11:06] <Flannel> JohnRobert: it should be, if not, it's in the alternateCD, it's an installation option
[11:06] <iiiears> xed - i don't know the answer
[11:07] <gyaresu> helpplz, sorry. thought you were trying the pcmcp0 trick.
[11:07] <JohnRobert> thanks Flannel
[11:07] <xed> OH YES.. I'm screwed
[11:07] <JohnRobert> no you're not xed
[11:07] <xed> JohnRobert: It seems I am!
[11:07] <JohnRobert> I killed my server last night
[11:07] <JohnRobert> that's screwed.
[11:07] <Flannel> cool_nick: which ubuntu are you using?
[11:07] <JohnRobert> as it's 1000 miles away from me
[11:07] <xed> JohnRobert: So are you telling me you can help me?
[11:07] <Flannel> cool_nick: Breezy/5.10 or Dapper/6.06?
[11:08] <JohnRobert> don't ask for help, just ask your queston
[11:08] <JohnRobert> question
[11:08] <cool_nick> Flannel: Dapper Drake
[11:08] <iiiears> xed - What i am really saying is that i don't know what the info you gave me means. - someone else does.
[11:08] <zcat[1] > weenies, I used Slack for years before I even HAD a graphical desktop!
[11:08] <xed> iiiears: I think it means I'm screwed
[11:08] <Badm4n> is zebra is good for ubuntu breezy ?
[11:08] <JohnRobert> I used punch card servers once
[11:08] <JohnRobert> nah, not really
[11:08] <JohnRobert> :p
[11:08] <Flannel> cool_nick: oh, sorry.  azureus IS in the repositories.  You're using apt?  did you follow the howto on adding repositories?  including the "sudo apt-get update" afterwards?
[11:08] <JohnRobert> azureus is gross
[11:08] <JohnRobert> :p
[11:09] <kevinz> Hello. it seems that ubuntu auto mark "My Document" in windows fat32 partition as read-only to my normal user under ubuntu. How can i change the permission?
[11:09] <xed> Should I change "VTAllocation=true" to false?
[11:09] <arooni> can i install yahoo messenger for ubuntu dapper, and if so, how?
[11:09] <JohnRobert> it'd be good if it wasn't programmed in java
[11:09] <bunta> meh..
[11:09] <CarinArr> xed, have you checked your gdm.conf like it suggests?
[11:09] <bunta> Any ideas folks?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> arooni: use gaim
[11:09] <bunta> The plugin is loaded fine
[11:09] <bunta> but no video is shown
[11:09] <xed> CarinArr: See, I am IN the gdm file but don't know what to check for
[11:09] <gyaresu> xed, you could also try the current version of ubuntu instead of hoary.
[11:10] <Flannel> arooni: you're probably better off finding native linux alternatives that can connect/chat on the yahoo network
[11:10] <bobbyw> kevinz: you need to change the umask in /etc/fstab of the partition
[11:10] <iiiears> xed - the "GDM" file? xorg.conf ??
[11:10] <CarinArr> xed, check StandardXServer
[11:10] <xed> iiiears: No, I don't know where to look in gdm.conf
[11:10] <kevinz> bobbyw: but why can i write to other folders in that partition except "My Document"
[11:10] <sun_> is VLAN can stream DVB-IPI servies ?
[11:10] <CarinArr> and check that the executable it says to use exists
[11:10] <bobbyw> oh
[11:11] <xed> gyaresu: can you link me to the lates version installation download?
[11:11] <ardchoille> arooni: I have seen some folks in this channel saying they use gaim as their yahoo messenger.
[11:11] <xed> gyaresu: I'm sure I downloaded the right one, but it turned out to be a live cd
[11:11] <bobbyw> do you have permissions to?
[11:11] <bobbyw> right click it, goto properties
[11:12] <tvalladon> ok, I am going nuts.. I have 2 HP machines, same makes and models, one with 512 meg memory, one with 2 gig.. both report working 3d acceleration and report no problems in several 3d test apps, but as soon as I launch a 3d game the computer locks up with a switching screen...
[11:12] <gyaresu> xed, what arch what power etc?
[11:12] <Bergcube> arooni~  I use Gaim for my Yahoo messenger account.  I am very satisfied with it.
[11:12] <CarinArr> tvalladon, on both machines or just the one?
[11:12] <bobbyw> tvalladon: what video card/onboard video?
[11:12] <tvalladon> both
[11:12] <xed> gyaresu: what do you mean what arch what power? I don't quite understand what you're asking..
[11:12] <Flannel> tvalladon: just because you have the same model, doesn't mean they're identical though.  trust me ;)
[11:12] <tvalladon> one is running the 915resolution package...
[11:13] <iiiears> xed - i am lost again. where is the gdm.conf?
[11:13] <tvalladon> which is the only reason I mention it.
[11:13] <cool_nick> Flannel: its workin now, thanks. . .
[11:13] <xed> iiiears: it is at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[11:13] <CarinArr> tvalladon, what video card?
[11:13] <xed> gyaresu: I downloaded from http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:13] <gyaresu> xed, amd64 intel 32bit chip. an old pentium 1 with 32MB RAM?
[11:13] <iiiears> xed - Ah.. - cool going to take a look at mine.
[11:14] <tvalladon> looking in the device manager
[11:14] <xed> why is my text all typing from the right now?! CURSE YOU mIRC!
[11:14] <bunta> lol
[11:14] <bunta> xed, ur keyboard layout
[11:14] <tripppy> i have lost a great script that mounted all HDD's and set them up for Read/write access via samba.... can anyone help?
[11:15] <xed> gyaresu: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06
[11:15] <gyaresu> xed, what CPU do you have?
[11:16] <A[D] minS^Work> !amsn-dev
[11:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:16] <A[D] minS^Work> !xchat-dev
[11:16] <xed> gyaresu: AMD Athlon 550MHz, 128MB SDRAM (Probably PC100 or something), and I think some really old ATI graphics card (4 or 2 MB)...and a 10GB harddrive
[11:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:16] <tvalladon> 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics, Intel
[11:16] <A[D] minS^Work> ok
[11:16] <cool_nick> are there any editors from which i can view .chm files?
[11:17] <gyaresu> xed. right. so my advice would to be to get the server edition and install xcfe as your window manager.
[11:17] <Flannel> cool_nick: xchm
[11:17] <gyaresu> xed, http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[11:17] <javiolo> cool_nick sudo apt-cache search chm
[11:17] <xed> gyaresu: that would be the one I got I believe
[11:17] <gyaresu> xed, and always check the md5sum
[11:17] <kevinz> how to enable input method(scim) in kde applications, i am using ubuntu not kbuntu
[11:17] <tvalladon> That help any?
[11:17] <xed> gyaresu: md5sum?!
[11:17] <gyaresu> xed, not if you're running hoary
[11:17] <iiiears> gyaresu - sae advice
[11:18] <CarinArr> tvalladon, that might well be your problem.. have you checked that 1. that's good enough for the game and that 2. ubuntu has drivers for it?
[11:18] <iiiears> "sage" advice
[11:18] <gyaresu> xed, man md5sum
[11:18] <gyaresu> xed, http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[11:18] <nocti> hello, i've been reading http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/, question is -- how do i update the repository on the non-connected box if the app i'm looking for is in another repository (like metaverse), thanks
[11:18] <xed> here we go
[11:18] <bunta> CarinArr, it sure does :P
[11:18] <gyaresu> xed, you may have a corrupted download and that could even be the prob at the moment.
[11:19] <xed> gyaresu: Ah.. but it works fine...
[11:19] <cool_nick> Flannel: how do i encrypt my mails with pgp?
[11:19] <A[D] minS^Work> to compile xchat what i have to install first ?
[11:19] <burns> chmview
[11:19] <xed> I'm starting to believe that this "Ubuntu LTS" is actually just the live cd
[11:19] <tvalladon> CarinArr: even the smallest 3d games will cause it to lock up :( but screensavers work
[11:19] <gyaresu> xed, really. doesn't seem to.
[11:19] <bunta> LTS means long term support :P
[11:19] <bunta> Not l33t tangy sauce
[11:19] <bunta> :)
[11:19] <xed> gyaresu: I'm telling you.. it works like a LIVE cd, nothing else.
[11:19] <Flannel> pgp? or gpg?
[11:19] <Seba> hi
[11:19] <CarinArr> tvalladon, sounds like a driver problem to me.. not sure how to install/trouble shoot intel video drivers tho i'm afraid;)
[11:19] <gyaresu> nocti, you can just dump all the files in the local repository folder (from memory)
[11:19] <tvalladon> CarinArr: and in my X11 conf file I have         Identifier      "Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller"
[11:20] <tvalladon> CarinArr: so a perfect match there...
[11:20] <bobbyw> hmm
[11:20] <gyaresu> xed, cool. so why are you trying to mess with gdm.conf and xorg.conf etc?
[11:20] <Seba> is there any way to manually add an interface to network-manager? in my laptop it only sees the wireless card but not the wired nic (even if it works ok)
[11:20] <bobbyw> onboard intel chipset
[11:20] <A[D] minS^Work> if someone loged to  pc by ssh
[11:21] <nocti> gyaresu, so i search/install for the app i want in the connected box, copy repository archives to non-connected box, and whala?
[11:21] <gyaresu> Seba,  are you familiar with dmesg and lspci
[11:21] <xed> gyaresu: I don't know! I had the 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog CD which I used to INSTALL Ubuntu onto the desktop.. but it doesn't let me boot up 'x'...
[11:21] <A[D] minS^Work> is there any program to  monitor him " means to see what he are doin rite now" ?
[11:21] <xed> gyaresu: 'x' doesn't work
[11:21] <kangacunt> hi
[11:21] <Flannel> A[D] minS^Work: you don't need to compile xchat
[11:21] <kangacunt> anyone know how to get gcc working on ubuntu 5.10?
[11:21] <Seba> gyaresu: yes, do you want me to post the lspci line for the card?
[11:21] <Flannel> kangacunt: install build-essential
[11:21] <cotroler> problem any help??????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:22] <selinuxium> Hi all, anyone got any experience in X11 forwarding in SSH? I am trying to get putty to forward to a windoze machine...
[11:22] <gyaresu> nocti, that should work but i havn't ubuntu'd for a while. just get a confirmation on that i'd say.
[11:22] <gyaresu> xed, so get the version i linked to and install breezy :)
[11:22] <CarinArr> selinuxium, you have to have an xserver running in windows too
[11:22] <kangacunt> thanx :D
[11:22] <nocti> gyaresu, ok will test, thanks
[11:22] <gyaresu> Seba is it in "dmesg | grep -i eth"
[11:22] <Deepsight> Hello, anybody programming with mysql++ in dapper?
[11:22] <Flannel> selinuxium: cygwin provides an X server for windows, I believe there are others
[11:23] <tvalladon> hmmm.. anyone else have any ideas? not like I am trying to play WoW or anything, even eggboo kills my machine :(
[11:23] <gyaresu> Seba, and it's in lspci?
[11:23] <Minty> Hello
[11:23] <gyaresu> Minty, hi.
[11:23] <xed> gyaresu: you're suggesting I get http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso    that?
[11:23] <CarinArr> tvalladon, for the sake of your sanity you might want to get a cheapo nvidia card or something
[11:23] <Seba> yes, it's in lspci and in dmesg
[11:23] <kangacunt> minty where u from
[11:23] <CarinArr> you can get them for virtually nothing
[11:24] <cotroler> problem any help??????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:24] <Minty> I have a card reader, memory stick, compact falsh etc reader in my laptop, wht soft do I nee to run it
[11:24] <selinuxium> CarinArr: Flannel: Cheers, I wil go find cygwin. cheers
[11:24] <A[D] minS^Work> Flannel, if someone loged to  pc by ssh ....is there any program to  monitor him " means to see what he are doin rite now" ?
[11:24] <Minty> From France, near Paris
[11:24] <Seba> i don't want to flood, there are like 8 lines in dmesg regarding eth0
[11:24] <gyaresu> xed, yep. server edition. after you install then you can install a xfce: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[11:24] <gyaresu> Seba, pastebin.com
[11:24] <tvalladon> CarinArr: is there a way to make sure first that its not an issue with the base system?
[11:24] <javiolo> !paste > Seba
[11:24] <gyaresu> Seba, or seba.pastebin.com
[11:25] <Vratha> anyone else here use GDM and have LDAP as their user/group database?
[11:25] <Badm4n> hello
[11:25] <CarinArr> cotroler, er.. if you look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, where it lists your graphics card (will say Identifier "NVIDIA..." somewhat or other) what does it say after Driver?
[11:25] <Vratha> when i try to login via gdm, i keep getting "cannot set user group"
[11:25] <xed> how long does it take to download 50MB going at 122KBps?
[11:25] <Flannel> A[D] minS^Work: not that I'm aware of.  Well, except just checking log files and stuff.  I suppose you could also use ps to see what is running
[11:25] <Badm4n> how to put static IP on eth2 192.168.1.1 at /etc/network/interfaces
[11:25] <Vratha> actually it says "cannot set your user group; you will not be able to log in."
[11:26] <CarinArr> tvalladon, there might well be, I don't think I could be of any help though unfortunately given I haven't a clue about intel cards
[11:26] <gyaresu> Minty, I don't think compact flash worked last time i looked.
[11:26] <ajmitch> Vratha: let me try & recall - I did have that error & found the fix
[11:26] <gyaresu> Minty, I may well be wrong though.
[11:26] <Vratha> ajmitch: sweet!
[11:26] <xed> oh, while I'm here
[11:26] <CarinArr> vratha, yes
[11:26] <tvalladon> Flannel: FreeBSD has a "watch" command that lets you snoop a tty, watch in linux is way different.. but does linux offer a like command?
[11:26] <Flannel> tvalladon: no idea.
[11:26] <Minty> Its really a sony memory stick that is not reconized
[11:26] <xed> Does anyone know of any decent application I get for xubuntu or ubuntu in general that'll let me load up an external harddrive without me having to type something into the terminal/CLI to mount the images?
[11:26] <CarinArr> vratha, as in i'm using gdm and ldap;)
[11:26] <Vratha> btw, i am using NSS (nsswitch.conf) to get data from ldap with "passwd: ldap files" and "group: ldap files"
[11:27] <xed> ...replace images with harddrive
[11:27] <Vratha> CarinArr: ah :)  get it to work, or did you have that problem for a while/
[11:27] <CarinArr> i had about a gazillion problems
[11:27] <CarinArr> heh
[11:27] <Vratha> heh
[11:27] <xed> anyone?
[11:27] <gyaresu> xed, automount will do it.
[11:27] <Vratha> same here... getting DNS+LDAP+Kerberos setup was no easy task
[11:27] <xed> gyaresu: automo.. ubuntu automounts now?
[11:27] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: just an idea, can you cat the tty? just pulling off of some old BSD tricks we used to use
[11:27] <CarinArr> hang on let me have a look at that machine
[11:27] <xed> gyaresu: or is that the name of the program?
[11:27] <Vratha> CarinArr: thanks :)
[11:27] <gyaresu> xed, just stick it in and it'll pop up.
[11:28] <ajmitch> Vratha: you'll be happy to know that there's a SoC project to make all that a bit easier
[11:28] <xed> gyaresu: roger that
[11:28] <xed> gyaresu: thankss
[11:28] <gyaresu> xed, welcome
[11:28] <xed> man.. FIVE minutes till I have xubuntu
[11:28] <Vratha> ajmitch: yeah, that would be nice.. though i pretty much know how to do it now, heh
[11:28] <xed> gyaresu: Just to make sure I got the right one... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Releases?action=show&redirect=XubuntuReleases   Is that the INSTALLATION CD for Xubuntu?
[11:28] <Vratha> i even got autofs working over ldap
[11:28] <Vratha> and all services work except this damned gdm :(
[11:28] <CarinArr> vratha, I can log in in GDM without any problems, is that where you're having the problem or is it something else?
[11:29] <Vratha> CarinArr: just gdm.. ssh and login all work fine
[11:29] <iiiears> xed - there are some bash scripts - let give you a link  http:\\seveas.ubuntulinux.nl\      automounter
[11:29] <Vratha> CarinArr: exact error: cannot set your user group; you will not be able to log in
[11:29] <Flannel> xed: as of dapper, the desktop iso is the installation iso.  The alternate ISO is also an installation iso.  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/  Those are downloads
[11:29] <xed> iiiears: these.. scripts.. what will they do?
[11:29] <ajmitch> Vratha: just starting up that machine now..
[11:29] <A[D] minS^Work> tvalladon,  ok
[11:29] <A[D] minS^Work> thx
[11:30] <gyaresu> xed, it's just a basic server install and then you chose to put in a WM and all the other software you need. so it's a lot smaller to start with and will be missing lots of programmes.
[11:30] <Vratha> ajmitch: :)
[11:30] <tripppy> when i try and connect to my ubuntu box from windows. it asks for a user/pass.
[11:30] <iiiears> xed - did you need a HD mounted automatically without editing fstab and creating mount points?
[11:30] <xed> I noticed that if I have an older version of Ubuntu already installed..and I put in a new version ..the system loads up the newer version cd as a live cd and not an installation cd.. or did I just download the live cd?
[11:30] <Flannel> tripppy: that makes sense
[11:30] <CarinArr> vratha, weird.. been so long since i did this i can't remember what my problems were.. i just remember it being an absolute er.. unmentionable.. to set up
[11:30] <Vratha> in /var/log/auth.log, i keep getting "pam_unix) could ot identify user (from getpwnam(grimw))", which shouldn't matter, b/c i have "pam_unix.so" set as "sufficient" in my pam.d files
[11:31] <Flannel> xed: the liveCD for dapper IS the installation CD
[11:31] <xed> iiiears: I already have the harddrive formatted, it has stuff on it.. it has 2 NTFS partitions on it.. will that cause a problem in Ubuntu?
[11:31] <tripppy> whats the user/pass? how do i set this up or turn it off all together?
[11:31] <Vratha> and right after it i have "pam_krb5.so" set as "required"
[11:31] <pipemann> #ubuntu-cz
[11:31] <Vratha> CarinArr: do you have "pam_krb5.so" first or not in your pam.d files?
[11:31] <Badm4n> where i can get respitory list from my ip at ubuntu website ? i want to put it on my source.list
[11:31] <kangacunt> fuck you all motherfuckers AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
[11:31] <iiiears> xed - You will able to read and copy data from ntfs
[11:31] <xed> Flannel: Then HOW do I get it to install damnit?
[11:31] <xed> iiiears: But not WRITE to it?
[11:31] <Flannel> xed: there's a "install" link on the desktop of the liveCD
[11:32] <xed> Flannel: when I boot it up you mean?
[11:32] <Flannel> xed: right.  Once the liveCD has booted
[11:32] <iiiears> xed - I cheat.   save all  my stuff on the wife's computer over the lan
[11:32] <tripppy> iiiears: do you know of a script that automounts all vfat partitions on bootup?
[11:32] <xed> Flannel: it says "start installation or run ubuntu live" or whatever, i select that.. ubuntu starts up... whatever... what do I do then?
[11:32] <CarinArr> vratha, erm.. i don't think i was using kerber-whateveritsname
[11:32] <ajmitch> Vratha: I knew I should have written this one down somewhere..
[11:32] <gyaresu> xed. you have a drive with stuff on it already?
[11:33] <Flannel> xed: er, do you have a DVD iso? or what?
[11:33] <xed> gyaresu: yeah...external
[11:33] <iiiears> trippy - mounts all available partitions? - yers
[11:33] <xed> Flannel: CD ISO
[11:33] <Flannel> xed: of dapper?
[11:33] <xed> Flannel: yes...
[11:33] <Vratha> CarinArr: oh, heh, right... do you have your system using pam_ldap or nsswitch.conf?
[11:33] <Flannel> xed: alright, yeah, if you start the liveCD, then once its started, you can install
[11:33] <ajmitch> Vratha: I had mine working with nsswitch.conf
[11:33] <Vratha> ajmitch: hehehe :)  i scanned google and couldn't find much
[11:33] <CarinArr> pam_ldap
[11:33] <Vratha> ajmitch: awesome
[11:34] <A[D] minS^Work> tvalladon, how i can cat the tty? ?
[11:34] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: there is a ttysnoop in the packages.. perhaps?
[11:34] <tripppy> iiiears: yeah so what is it called?
[11:34] <gyaresu> Flannel, xed has the server disc. then xfce
[11:34] <xed> Flannel: where is this installation ..option located?
[11:34] <ronald_> hey everyone
[11:34] <Flannel> xed: er, you have the server iso?
[11:35] <CarinArr> vratha, you said everything by gdm seems to work?
[11:35] <A[D] minS^Work> tvalladon, ttysnoop - TTY Snoop - allows you to spy on telnet+serial connections
[11:35] <A[D] minS^Work> is that will help ?
[11:35] <CarinArr> vratha, but everything is in the same order in the pam.d files?
[11:35] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: not sure if that will.. I did a  cat /dev/pts/5
[11:35] <xed> Flannel: http://www.ubuntu.com/download  You see the first "United States" link there? that's the one I clicked on
[11:35] <Vratha> CarinArr: yeah, all but gdm works
[11:35] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: and... (wait, more)
[11:35] <Flannel> xed: right, and then there's a lot of options, which iso did you download?
[11:35] <Enverex> I seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that?
[11:35] <xed> Flannel: Then I got here http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[11:36] <Vratha> CarinArr: and all of them use the same ordering by including /etc/pam.d/common-* files
[11:36] <iiiears> trippy - scouring the net. - winmac_fstab.sh  seveas a moderator here wrote it
[11:36] <xed> Then I clicked on the PC  one
[11:36] <xed> Intelx86
[11:36] <Flannel> xed: theres still three versions, which one did you download?
[11:36] <Seba> ok, great! www.pastebin.com/756231, that's the output of "dmesg | grep -i eth"
[11:36] <MikeyMike-Window> o
[11:36] <xed> Flannel: Desktop CD
[11:36] <Flannel> xed: server, desktop, alternate
[11:36] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: I was able to see what was typped on the pts/5 tty... but commands stopped working on that terminal.. so they will know your watching
[11:36] <xed> Flannel: Desktop CD
[11:36] <gyaresu> xed, are you kidding?
[11:36] <Flannel> xed: alright, then once you start the liveCD, there is a link on the desktop to install
[11:36] <xed> gyaresu: no, why would I kid?
[11:36] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: let me play with ttypsnoop really quick
[11:37] <Vratha> it's just weird that gdm can't find "grimw" with "getpwnam"... i did "perl -ne 'print getpwnam("grimw");', and it printed all my info
[11:37] <A[D] minS^Work> ok thx tvalladon
[11:37] <A[D] minS^Work> am playing too
[11:37] <MikeyMike-Window> they standard msg nickserv register pw works on freenode?
[11:37] <A[D] minS^Work> :D
[11:37] <MikeyMike-Window> the*
[11:37] <xed> Flannel: It's "configuring power management" at the moment...
[11:37] <Seba> it's strange, there's nothing about eth1 in dmesg, and that's the interface that works ok...
[11:37] <Madpilot> MikeyMike-Window, yes
[11:37] <MikeyMike-Window> cool
[11:37] <gyaresu> xed, Flannel sigh. xed are you just asking questions without even reading the answers. i linked you to the server edition and then .... man just scroll up.
[11:37] <Flannel> xed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall  Follow that
[11:37] <xed> gyaresu: I am already downloading that...
[11:38] <ajmitch> Vratha: is there anything else relevant in auth.log or syslog?
[11:38] <gyaresu> xed, and the desktop version is old and won't run an xserver for you right?
[11:38] <Vratha> ajmitch: checking
[11:38] <xed> gyaresu: The one I have currently installed.. which I got quite a while ago in themail (that version which is currently installed is v5.04)
[11:38] <CarinArr> vratha, not sure if this is any help but my /etc/pam.d/gdm looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18851
[11:39] <gyaresu> xed, that has no xserver? right?
[11:39] <Vratha> ajmitch: no :-/  /var/log/syslog just says that nss_ldap reconnects to LDAP successfully
[11:39] <xed> gyaresu: that's the one which doens't let me use x, yes.
[11:39] <gyaresu> xed, which is what you've been trying to troubleshoot. Now you want to reinstall. Right?
[11:39] <Flannel> xed: did you get that link?  Everything will start to look familiar as it boots, like the pictures on that page
[11:40] <Vratha> CarinArr: mine looks just like that ;)
[11:40] <xed> gyaresu: I just finished downloading xubuntu.. I'm going to just try and burn that and put it into the cd drive and hope that when I reboot that compputer.. the installation for xubuntu comes up and it removes everything else currently on that computer
[11:40] <CarinArr> actually.. nss_ldap sounds familiar
[11:40] <Enverex> I seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that? There are far too many things starting at boot.
[11:40] <ajmitch> Vratha: restarted gdm?
[11:40] <CarinArr> lol.. everyone in my office has a different problem with their ldap
[11:41] <Flannel> xed: er, before we can actually help you do something, you have to know what it is you want to accomplish
[11:41] <Vratha> ajmitch: yeah, just upgraded it with "apt-get install gdm" and restarted
[11:41] <Vratha> i'm about to reboot the system to see if it changes anything
[11:41] <xopher> Enverex, try BUM (Boot Up Manager)
[11:41] <CarinArr> even tho we still reckon we have the same settings
[11:41] <ajmitch> Vratha: might as well try that for now
[11:41] <gyaresu> Flannel, xed Fine. Just please try and give the full story to people who are trying to help you.
[11:41] <Enverex> xopher, I have but it doesn't seem to let me disable them. I tell it to, click apply, it refrshes but doesn't disable them
[11:42] <deeproot> I am trying to install libc-client2002edebian but it isn't there in source servers
[11:42] <xopher> Weird..
[11:42] <deeproot> where else can I look for it?
[11:42] <xed> Flannel: Oh I know.. but see.. when I got here... I had one goal in mind, then someone suggest I get xubuntu and install THAT to the desktop since it's a very weak desktop.. so now I have xubuntu.. and I'm going to try that
[11:42] <xed> Flannel: I have given up on my previous goal...
[11:42] <Vratha> ajmitch: you know, i even put "pam_permit.so" everywhere to just let me login, and it still gives that error
[11:42] <Flannel> xed: right, but... aren't you currently installing ubuntu?
[11:42] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: hehe, you can send messages to the pts.. echo GO AWAY BIZATCH > /dev/pts/N where N is there tty number in WHO :D
[11:42] <deeproot> I am using deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:42] <Seba> gyaresu: Could you see pastebin?
[11:42] <xed> Flannel: Currently burning the image to a CD
[11:42] <Vratha> it's as if it doesn't even know to use NSS
[11:43] <Flannel> xed: so, you're no longer booting the liveCD then?
[11:43] <Vratha> though, this did work fine on debian-etch
[11:43] <sirex> hello
[11:43] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: but catting the pts will display what they are typing and locks their term so no commands after the first works
[11:43] <xed> Flannel: I am.. just to see if it will boot again, because just a second ago... it gave me the error that it couldn't start x for whatever reason, so I started in safe graphics mode...
[11:43] <ajmitch> Vratha: interesting
[11:43] <iiiears> trippy - Are you still there?   - don't have the link to seveas' site but i have saved  the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18853
[11:43] <vakosel> hi all !
[11:44] <Flannel> deeproot: the us archive might be down.  try removing the us, just archive.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <gyaresu> xed, Flannel someone? xed you are totally not going to get any help if you keep starting new threads with different people and all the while being totally oblivious to everything that's said to you.
[11:44] <vakosel> what is the apt-get command to install the kernel headers?
[11:44] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: so cat a binary to their term and it will mess up the character setting on their terminal and they will need to reload
[11:44] <deeproot> Flannel: rest other packages can be installed
[11:45] <sirex> maybe someone knows name of a player that is writen on top of xmms and soon that player would be rewriten from scratch?
[11:45] <Seba> vakosel: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:45] <vakosel> thx seba !
[11:45] <deeproot> apt-get -s works with some other packages..
[11:45] <xed> gyaresu: I'm not being oblivious at all, I tried to do what everyone told me and it didn't work.. so now I'm doing what other people suggested I do, which is install Xubuntu.... is that wrong?
[11:45] <Seba> you're welcome :)
[11:45] <Vratha> ajmitch: i wonder if it has to do with the fact that gdm isn't running as root and can't get to the data in /etc/krb5.keytab, b/c my ldap authorizes people via kerberos
[11:45] <gyaresu> Seba, no can you preface it with my name please?
[11:45] <iiiears> seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/    << Seveas' site - massive server overload he shares his server with everyone
[11:45] <deeproot> Flannel: so it indicates that the us archive is up..
[11:45] <Vratha> ajmitch: i'll login as gdmgreeter and see if i can do "id grimw" or not
[11:46] <ardchoille> gyaresu: What is the psychocats page again?
[11:46] <Seba> gyaresu: http://pastebin.com/756231
[11:46] <ajmitch> Vratha: I doubt that's the case - I know that I had it working here with a default gdm setup :)
[11:46] <deeproot> Are these archives identical to those of deb?
[11:46] <gyaresu> ardchoille, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[11:46] <Flannel> xed: no, it's just impossible for us to help you if we don't know where you 'are' in the process (or even if youre still doing the same thing).  Such as now you need to follow THESE screenshots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu
[11:46] <ajmitch> I just have to make sure I replicate that
[11:46] <Vratha> ajmitch: well i'm jealous then ;)
[11:46] <ardchoille> gyaresu: Thank you :)
[11:47] <xed> Flannel: Ah, thanks for that link.
[11:47] <Flannel> deeproot: you sure you have universe enabled?
[11:47] <Vratha> right now i'm awaiting a full dist-upgrade before proceeding though
[11:47] <gyaresu> xed, It was me that told you about xubuntu cause you have a low powered computer and .....stuff it. really.
[11:48] <gyaresu> Seba, checking now.
[11:48] <vakosel> another question ! i hope not bothering but i am new to ubuntu ..
[11:48] <vakosel> i received the 5 cds from the site..
[11:48] <Enverex> Does anyone know any way of disabling services other than with BUM?
[11:48] <deeproot> Flannel: nope, univer is not enabled, I am using main only
[11:48] <tvalladon> anyone help with a 3d issue on a HP DC5100 MT? intel 915 video card
[11:48] <vakosel> are all the same or what?
[11:48] <gyaresu> Enverex, update-rc.d
[11:48] <vakosel> i mean the cds
[11:48] <Flannel> deeproot: that's why.  that package is in universe
[11:49] <xed> Flannel: Just a quick question to make sure I'm understanding these instructions properly... I have to have Ubuntu already installed for me to use xUbuntu?
[11:49] <gyaresu> vakosel, it will say on the bottom of the cardboard.
[11:49] <Flannel> xed: no.  You're reinstalling.  However, the Dapper Desktop ISO's installation method is a liveCD, so you have to run the liveCD to install.
[11:49] <deeproot> hmm.. what do I have to do after I uncomment universe so that apt-get takes note of new archives?
[11:49] <Enverex> gyaresu, which is where?
[11:49] <vakosel> which cardboard?
[11:49] <Flannel> deeproot: sudo apt-get update
[11:50] <acuster> hey all
[11:50] <deeproot> Flannel: righto, Thanx.
[11:50] <ardchoille> gyaresu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php  is quite educational. I'm glad the owner posted all that info :)
[11:50] <gyaresu> xed Flannel This is the last time I'm posting it READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS!!!: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[11:50] <acuster> how can i figure out how to write accents with my american thinkpad keyboard?
[11:50] <xed> Flannel: Okay, I have it running now... so I should install it, THEN put in the Xubuntu CD.. after it's done installing?
[11:50] <acuster> I'd like to write french and catalan
[11:50] <xed> gyaresu: Sorry.
[11:50] <ic56> deeproot: apt-get isn't a daemon.  Hence you need to nothing for it to notice the change to its config file
[11:50] <Flannel> xed: no.  You can't install it without the CD.
[11:50] <kangacunt> hey how do i install sdl_net?
[11:50] <A[D] minS^Work> tvalladon, ok so what do u think i can do to see what he r doin @ my PC :D
[11:51] <Flannel> xed: er, do you have the server, or desktop iso?
[11:51] <kangacunt> i tried install sdl_net but it didnt work
[11:51] <kangacunt> ??
[11:51] <xed> Flannel: Desktop ISO.
[11:51] <Flannel> xed: right, insert the CD, let it boot, then follow those pictures from the wiki
[11:51] <acuster> I've been using the gnu for a decade now. Had it figured out in Mandrake 10.2 but never in ubuntu
[11:51] <acuster> s/it/writing accents
[11:51] <[META] > what is the dpkg command that repairs the dependent problems?
[11:51] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: other then catting the pts I dont know.. I guess BSD is just in general less trusting.. I would shutdown the ssh daemon and boot them off the system...
[11:51] <acuster> any fun ideas?
[11:52] <xed> Flannel: Those pictures from wiki not loading
[11:52] <kangacunt> yo yo
[11:52] <gyaresu> vakosel, the ubuntu cd's didn't come in cardboard sleeves?
[11:52] <kangacunt> anyone here that can help me?
[11:52] <[META] > i have screved up my dependencies
[11:52] <kangacunt> how do i install sdlnet
[11:52] <vakosel> yeap
[11:52] <kangacunt> ??
[11:52] <gyaresu> Seba, pastbin isn't loading. odd. http://pastebin.com/756231 work for you?
[11:53] <gyaresu> vakosel, yep they did or yep they didn't?
[11:53] <tvalladon> A[D] minS^Work: then security audit your machine and change all your password and loging and stuff
[11:53] <kangacunt> how do i install sdl net?
[11:53] <vakosel> they did !
[11:53] <Seba> gyaresu: yes, but it's very very slow :(
[11:53] <vakosel> and actually very  nice
[11:53] <vakosel> so ?
[11:53] <xed> Flannel: If I install the desktop CD and not the server CD, can I still install Xubuntu?
[11:53] <Seba> gyaresu: I can't understand why I see the eth0 interface in dmesg while eth1 is not listed there but works ok
[11:53] <gyaresu> Hobbsee, kangacunt thinks screaming obcenities is ok and then also wants help. Does that seem fair?
[11:53] <Flannel> xed: the desktop IS the xubuntu desktop CD, right?
[11:54] <xed> Because.. according to these instructions, I'm suppose to type in 'server' somewhere.. but I haven't really had the option to do so anywhere...
[11:54] <Minty> anyone know how to mount / see the 4in 1 card reader that is integrated in my laptop
[11:54] <Seba> gyaresu: maybe i need to modify another file, not just interfaces...
[11:54] <deeproot> ic56: will it work without `apt-get update` then?
[11:54] <xed> Flannel:... err.. no, It's just the Ubuntu CD, I thought I had to install Ubuntu first...
[11:54] <vakosel> i cant see any numbers like 1, 2, 3,4..
[11:54] <xed> Flannel: I think you just cleared things up a bit...
[11:54] <vakosel> i think these are 5 live cds
[11:54] <gyaresu> Seba, havn't got the link yet but the wireless is definitely eth1?
[11:54] <Flannel> xed: no, you dont.  But, you can install ubuntu, and then change to xubuntu.  If you have the server CD, you can also install xubuntu afterwards
[11:54] <Hobbsee> kangacunt: behave, or go away.
[11:55] <chemaja> Hobbsee: how do you behave with a nickname like *that*?
[11:55] <chemaja> :D
[11:55] <vakosel> lol maybe i am stupid!
[11:55] <vakosel> lol
[11:55] <xed> Flannel: I'm going to boot from the Xubuntu CD and see if that's what the instructions are talking about when they say I have to type in 'server' somewhere
[11:55] <Seba> vakosel: I think you can get only livecd's (with the new graphical installator) from canonical
[11:55] <Flannel> xed: er, do you have the Xubuntu desktop CD, or the server CD?
[11:55] <xed> Flannel: I have the UBuntu Desktop CD, and I also have the XUbuntu desktop CD
[11:56] <gyaresu> Flannel, xed has http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[11:56] <ic56> deeproot apt-get update will obtain update your packages.  That guy was asking how to tell apt-get that its config file had been updated.  The latter needs no action because apt-get reads its config file afresh each time it's invoked
[11:56] <xed> gyaresu: I also have the xubuntu CD...
[11:56] <Enverex> I seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that? There are far too many things starting at boot and BUM doesn't seem to disable them when I tell it to (and update-rc.d isn't much use as I can't really see what's going on with it)
[11:56] <Hobbsee> chemaja: well, yeah
[11:56] <gyaresu> xed, k.
[11:56] <bobbyw> get
[11:56] <bobbyw> err
[11:56] <bobbyw> hey
[11:56] <bobbyw> can someone help me with keyboard shortcuts
[11:56] <bobbyw> I want them to work for xmms
[11:57] <xed> I am now booting from the xubuntu cd...
[11:57] <xed> because that's probably the easiest way to get xubuntu onto this machine..
[11:57] <xed> and quite possibly the most logical way
[11:57] <Flannel> xed: alright, put in the Xubuntu DEsktop CD, there won't be a server option.  You don't need it.  It'll boot up, to a graphical environment, where there will be a button on the desktop that says "install" hit that, and follow the onscreen prompts
[11:57] <deeproot> ic56: thats what I wanted to know.. it reads config file upon every new invocation..
[11:57] <deeproot> thanks
[11:57] <xed> Flannel: Doing so now.. ..the booting that is...
[11:57] <ic56> deeproot: correct.
[11:57] <kouwe> still no further dan 41% xed?
[11:57] <vakosel> thx for your help ! bye
[11:58] <xed> Sss.. I have to use safe graphic mode to boot =(
[11:58] <kouwe> then u need the DVD
[11:58] <Flannel> xed: er, you shouldnt.  Are you booting from the CD? or booting from your harddrive?
[11:58] <kouwe> owno
[11:58] <xed> Flannel: cd..
[11:59] <bobbyw> xed: me too
[11:59] <bobbyw> safe graphic mode roxors!
[11:59] <xed> Flannel: But I think it might be due to just having a shitty video card...
[11:59] <bobbyw> ati's require them
[11:59] <xed> well I guess that's probably it then
[11:59] <bobbyw> otherwise you are forced into 640x480 and can't go through the installation
[11:59] <xed> bobbyw: x won't even start with mine!
[12:00] <bezibaerchen> is it ok to delete /var/cache/apt/archives/?
[12:00] <Subhuman> bezibaerchen, dont clear apt yourself, run "sudo apt-get clean"
[12:00] <bezibaerchen> Subhuman: ok
[12:00] <bobbyw> ew
[12:00] <Flannel> xed: the "install" button on the desktop
[12:00] <xed> Flannel: what about it...?
[12:01] <cotroler> EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????
[12:01] <cotroler> EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????
[12:01] <bobbyw> cotroler: nvidia.com, download the drivers
[12:01] <Flannel> xed: sorry, was scrolled, wrong question, ignore it ;)
[12:01] <bezibaerchen> k, that made nearly 300mb more on /
[12:01] <bezibaerchen> :-)
[12:01] <xed> heh.. funny green and blue verticle lines splash by on the screen  when I boot in safe graphic mode...
[12:01] <ic56> :query #vim
[12:02] <xed> nvidia has drivers for ubuntu?
[12:02] <ic56> manveru: :%d
[12:02] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> What command do you type to make a file in the terminal?
[12:02] <CarinArr> xed, of course..
[12:02] <ic56> (oops)
[12:02] <CarinArr> ;)
[12:02] <xed> CarinArr: That is NEWS to me..
[12:02] <Subhuman> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, touch filename to make a blank file
[12:02] <xed> You're telling me that nVidia is actually supporting Ubuntu?
[12:03] <Subhuman> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, "touch filename" ,
[12:03] <Subhuman> xed, NV has always had good linux support.
[12:03] <Louis_Kahel> cotroler: have you installed nvidia rivers ?
[12:03] <Subhuman> !nvidia
[12:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:03] <CarinArr> well "supporting" can mean many things.. but yes, they have linux drivers that work in ubuntu
[12:03] <iGotNoTime> Can anyone point me in the right direction? I am trying to get Amarok to see my Sansa Mp3 player. I read something about XFM working good is that software that I need in addition to using Amarok?
[12:03] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Subhuman thanx! :)
[12:03] <Louis_Kahel> cotroler: if yes : you must activate them
[12:03] <Minty> I installed kubuntu but dont like it how do I inistall it and the kubuntu programs with it ??
[12:04] <chemaja> Minty: sounds like you already have?
[12:04] <iGotNoTime> amarok says it can't find it but the player is already mounted. :(
[12:04] <xed> I think I just broke my monitor.. dang
[12:04] <chemaja> Minty: btw. i know what you meant. i'm in the exact same position right now :$ kubuntu has been running for like 24h and it's already making me sick
[12:05] <truzak> Minty: you mean 'installed kubuntu over ubuntu' ?
[12:05] <Minty> sorry should have read UNinstall it
[12:05] <chemaja> poor kde folk, make a great desktop then get sh** on by just about everyone
[12:05] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Subhuman: Is there a command for making folders too?
[12:05] <Minty> I like my gnome
[12:05] <cotroler> Louis_Kahel: i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:05] <Flannel> Minty: adept is KDEs package manager
[12:05] <Subhuman> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, of course "mkdir foldername"
[12:05] <Shinjan> hi
[12:05] <iGotNoTime> me too minty :)
[12:05] <xed> the resolution on the screen is so small, i can't even see the 'next' button during the installation
[12:06] <xed> This is going to be complicated
[12:06] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Subhuman: thanx again! :)
[12:06] <Subhuman> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, the terminal is very powerful, if you need to do anything you can prob do it on the terminal
[12:06] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Hmmm
[12:06] <chemaja> Minty: i could never figure out how to fully uninstall a highlevel package and its deps on a debian based system -- but i think there's "cruft management" tools, kinda like Arch Linux's `pacman -Rs' command
[12:06] <CarinArr> cotroler, you have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well.. it sounds as tho you already added Load "glx", but you also have to change the line where it says Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia"
[12:06] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Downloading and installing flash for FireFox?
[12:07] <Flannel> chemaja: deborphan will do that, aptitude also has it somewhat built in
[12:07] <chemaja> Flannel: yea, those.
[12:07] <iGotNoTime> CanadaGrade-EhFK: it can happen ;)
[12:07] <kangacunt> HELLO CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME!! im trying to install libsdl-net1.2 but its saying theres no such package
[12:07] <chemaja> Flannel: except aptitude's is non-orthogonal AFAIK (ie. you need to have used aptitude to install it if you want the "automatic" mark against those packages)
[12:08] <iGotNoTime> CanadaGrade-EhFK:  Take a look at the help :) >> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[12:08] <iGotNoTime> pretty simple just a few steps
[12:08] <Louis_Kahel> cotroler:to install it :
[12:08] <chemaja> Flannel: non-orthogonal like nautilus' Emblems bullsh** feature
[12:08] <Flannel> chemaja: right.  but, deborphan (or, debfoster, I can never remember which one is recommended) don't need to be pandered to
[12:08] <Minty> cant I just do a uninstall apt get kubuntu or something like that, sorry still a newbie
[12:08] <gyaresu_> kangacunt, No because you are a rude idiot.
[12:08] <Louis_Kahel> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:08] <Louis_Kahel> AND, after, to activate it :
[12:08] <Louis_Kahel> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:08] <chemaja> Flannel: AFAIK, yes true.
[12:08] <Madpilot> kangacunt, want to change your nick, please?
[12:09] <chemaja> seriously, what's the point of nautilus Emblems if only nautilus recognises them, ie. they're not in the inode?
[12:09] <Subhuman> kangacunt, whats the actual packahe name
[12:09] <chemaja> you can't even search on 'em from WITHIN gnome, AFAIK.
[12:09] <Subhuman> chemaja, just so you can visually see whats in a folder quickly.
[12:09] <CarinArr> there is a package called "libsdl-net1.2"
[12:09] <gyaresu_> Madpilot, He's been asked and he's also gone a swearing rampage. I won't help him and he should be kicked.
[12:09] <Flannel> chemaja: I think the idea is that nautilus is the only thing you'll be using, so why does it matter?
[12:09] <CarinArr> kangacunt, how are you trying to install it?
[12:09] <frogzoo> kangacunt: have you read the ubuntu rules of conduct ie ROC ?
[12:10] <Louis_Kahel> kangacunt:if you use apt-get or synaptic, the right name of the package is : libsdl1.2debian
[12:10] <chemaja> Flannel: so why can't i search for "all files with emblem X" in nautilus
[12:10] <gyaresu_> kick kangacunt
[12:10] <Madpilot> kangacunt, last warning: change the nick, or you'll be removed...
[12:10] <gyaresu_> MOD!
[12:10] <Flannel> chemaja: I have no idea.  I don't use a GUI.
[12:10] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Yea, I was just looking at the help file as I asked
[12:10] <chemaja> sorry i'm being inflammatory aren't i? :D i'm just shitty cause i haven't found the Perfect Linux Desktop
[12:10] <frogzoo> Madpilot: either kangacunt changes his nick, or boot him, svp
[12:10] <chemaja> :D
[12:10] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> I always read the manual, but some crap just leads me on such a tedious search that I ask at the same time anywa
[12:10] <frogzoo> kanga: much obliged, thx
[12:10] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> I gave up on help files a while ago. I feel lazy saying that, but it's so annoying some times
[12:10] <iGotNoTime> :)
[12:11] <iGotNoTime> usually yes :)
[12:11] <Badm4n> where i can get respitory list from my ip at ubuntu website ? i want to put it on my source.list
[12:11] <Ng> CanadaGrade-EhFK: man pages are always your friend
[12:11] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> man?
[12:11] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> as in manual? lol
[12:11] <Madpilot> happyman, thanks, you might find you get better help here when your nick isn't crude...
[12:11] <MatthiasK> hallo
[12:11] <Ng> CanadaGrade-EhFK: e.g. "man ls" in a terminal
[12:11] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> ... ok. brb lol
[12:11] <iGotNoTime> manuals are great if you have the time :)
[12:11] <chemaja> Flannel: besides bash/ls/mv/cp/find et al, how do you manage files? zsh? mc?
[12:12] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> yeaaaaaa.....
[12:12] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> that man ls just confused me
[12:12] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> lol
[12:12] <Flannel> chemaja: just bash.
[12:12] <Flannel> CanadaGrade-EhFK: try reading it next time.  mhmm.
[12:12] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Meh, I'll figure it all out tomorrow :) I'll be willing to read the help a bit more thoroughly tomorrow
[12:12] <xed> Oh man.. I want to just set this thing to go and install and go to sleep
[12:12] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Umm, I did read it. I was just confusing
[12:12] <chemaja> Flannel: in it's default config, or with funky aliases/functions etc.?
[12:12] <chemaja> Flannel: i'm curious because at work all i have is bash...
[12:13] <arooni> how can i list all processes and list them by which one is using the most resources
[12:13] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Right now I'm going to bed though
[12:13] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> 3 am makes me not want to read. Thanks for the help today guys
[12:13] <CanadaGrade-EhFK> Good night
[12:13] <chemaja> Flannel: actually all i have is "bash|ksh"
[12:13] <xed> alright, time for some sleep
[12:13] <iGotNoTime> can anyone show me a lilnk on setting up an mp3 player for amarok please?
[12:13] <Ng> arooni: top shows you an updating list of processes and you can sort it by different things
[12:13] <Ng> !restrictedformats > iGotNoTime
[12:13] <Flannel> chemaja: yeah, just normal bash
[12:13] <frogzoo> !amarok > iGotNoTime
[12:13] <chemaja> Flannel: cool, thanks.
[12:13] <xed> Flannel, gyaresu, bobbyw, iiieye, whe..whoever else helped, thanks a lot.  I appreciate everyone's help in here..
[12:14] <gyaresu_> xed, nigh nigh
[12:14] <xed> I'm goign to get some sleep, and probably be back in a few hours... I hate myself.
[12:14] <CanadaGE|sleep> Yea xed, these guys are great
[12:14] <CanadaGE|sleep> all volunteer too lol
[12:14] <xed> CanadaGE|sleep: I know, this place is pretty intense.
[12:14] <yomarac> andaluza
[12:14] <raven> now to install kubuntu desktop
[12:14] <CanadaGE|sleep> I've slept like 20 hours since firday
[12:14] <xed> WHY is the installation thing stuck at 0%!?
[12:14] <CanadaGE|sleep> see you in 12 hours lol
[12:14] <xed> CanadaGE|sleep: most probably
[12:15] <happyman> hey
[12:15] <xed> THERE we are...
[12:15] <xed> I think it's finally doing something...
[12:15] <iGotNoTime> Neither of those links have any information on setting up an mp3 player!
[12:16] <iGotNoTime> they have basic info on amarock as a media player not anything about a portable mp3 player or configuring amarock to transfer files to one
[12:16] <iGotNoTime> amarok sorry
[12:16] <Bassetts> what is the best way to repartition so i can install windows, and how do i stop windows messing grub up?
[12:18] <Flannel> Bassetts: You don't stop it from messing grub up, you reinstall grub afterwards.
[12:18] <bimberi> Bassetts: keep the first partition (hda1) for windows
[12:18] <Flannel> Bassetts: and, obviously, repartition in linux, give windows empty space to shoot for, don't expect it to be able to repartition
[12:18] <Bassetts> bimberi: too late, i have ubuntu but need to install win for games
[12:19] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: there used to be a page in the wiki for amarok, can't find it atm though
[12:19] <Bassetts> Flannel: planned on that ;-) how do i re install grub?
[12:19] <bimberi> Bassetts: i just knew you were going to say that ;p
[12:19] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[12:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:19] <Flannel> Bassetts: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:19] <CarinArr> heh
[12:19] <Bassetts> thanks
[12:19] <iGotNoTime> just found out on a forum that I need to update amarok to 4.blah
[12:19] <Subhuman> Bassetts, "sudo grub-install"
[12:19] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: thank you though
[12:19] <iGotNoTime> 1.4
[12:20] <frogzoo> launchpad & forums are down
[12:20] <Flannel> yeah, wiki is dead.
[12:20] <Bassetts> bimberi: well I dont really want win, but for games i got to have it really, i might just backup all my data and reinstall linux and win
[12:20] <`Evil`> Hit3k, Can someone help with some questions about installing xp under qemu? Can I later just delete the image file to remove XP?
[12:20] <Flannel> or, dying.
[12:20] <frogzoo> Flannel: long live wiki
[12:20] <Flannel> frogzoo: I can't get it to load though ;)
[12:20] <`Evil`> Hit3k, sorry, autocomplete :)
[12:20] <Vratha> uh, ok?  gdm just started working
[12:21] <Vratha> and i didn't change anything
[12:21] <CarinArr> somehow that rings a bell..
[12:21] <Enverex> `Evil`, Yeah
[12:21] <Vratha> CarinArr: heh
[12:21] <CarinArr> i still can't get sudo to work properly
[12:21] <`Evil`> Enverex, Thanks, and when I'm installing xp it says to format the image file, so doesnt matter if I choose NTFS or FAT right?
[12:21] <Flannel> CarinArr: hmm?
[12:22] <CarinArr> have to swap to local user then sudo
[12:22] <Enverex> `Evil`, Choose NTFS anyway
[12:22] <CarinArr> but i got fed up with trying to fix it;)
[12:22] <`Evil`> Enverex, Thanks :)
[12:22] <CarinArr> flannel, heh when logged in with ldap;)
[12:22] <Flannel> CarinArr: ah
[12:22] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: have you installed w32codecs ?
[12:23] <CarinArr> heh, else i'd be worried;)
[12:23] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: don't think so, what are they?
[12:23] <g0st> Anyone have an EFS?
[12:23] <Vratha> actually, i wonder if it has to do with the fact that i am using "nscd" now
[12:23] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: codec for mp3, amongst other, so install that for starters
[12:23] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: yes then I have that
[12:24] <iGotNoTime> plays fine anyway
[12:24] <iGotNoTime> How do I find what the apt-get command (or name) is for the newest version of amarok?
[12:24] <CarinArr> vratha, i just got to the point where almost everything works as expected, and i don't dare touch it in case i break it again;)
[12:24] <iGotNoTime> or any software for that matter?
[12:24] <ardchoille> iGotNoTime: apt-cache-search packagename
[12:24] <iGotNoTime> ok :) Thanks
[12:24] <ardchoille> iGotNoTime: apt-cache search packagename
[12:24] <iGotNoTime> never knew that now I learned
[12:24] <frogzoo> !codecs
[12:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <ardchoille> sorry, too many dashes
[12:25] <iGotNoTime> got it ;)
[12:25] <Vratha> CarinArr: heh, well, i'm not that afraid, i just still can't figure out why shit wasn't working in the first palce
[12:26] <Vratha> and it can't be "nscd", b/c i just disabled it and removed it's caches
[12:26] <Vratha> so there is no way nscd could be using it
[12:26] <Vratha> i mean that gdm could be using it
[12:26] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: now install libxine-extracodecs & restart amarok - also, go into settings & select xine as engine
[12:26] <CarinArr> vratha, i normally don't have a problem figuring things out, but the ldap stuff just beats me;)
[12:26] <ic56> iGotNoTime: beware: apt-cache sometimes produces no output when the packagename you provide exactly matches an existing package name.  Not sure why...  apt-cache show packagename will display info on a particular package name and works around the problemn in apt-cache search
[12:27] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo I messed up my sound doing that yesterday, but did that about 16 hours ago
[12:27] <iGotNoTime> ic56 does not show what version is in the cache under amarok either :(
[12:27] <abhinay> when i logging in by entering username & password , it is comming back to display manger , wot went wrong ? & logging in as root perfectly ...
[12:27] <Vratha> CarinArr: heh.. ldap gets pretty easy; just think of it as a hierarchical directory and you're good
[12:27] <Vratha> CarinArr: don't think of it as a real DB... i mean this thing has a LOT of redundancy info in it
[12:28] <bobbyw> isn't there an easier way to unpack a tar.gz file than the whole extracting in archive manager crap?
[12:28] <jpg> hi all
[12:28] <ic56> iGotNoTime: yes, apt-cache search is meant to help you locate a relevant package by searching by some keyword.  Hence the output is terse.  apt-cache show will give you more details, including version numbers
[12:28] <Flannel> showpkg is another option, which shows different information than show
[12:28] <CyDrive> How do i get the latest version of java?
[12:29] <Louis_Kahel> CyDrive : @ sun's
[12:29] <jpg> www.java.sun.com
[12:29] <frogzoo> !java
[12:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:29] <Vratha> hmmm, perhaps it WAS nscd helping me out, b/c now i can't login again
[12:29] <gyaresu> bobbyw, tar zxvf thing.tar.gz
[12:29] <frogzoo> CyDrive: ^^^ should be recent enough for most purposes
[12:30] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:30] <iGotNoTime> I have been there far too much the past 48 hours
[12:30] <bobbyw> what is the zxvf for?
[12:30] <iGotNoTime> not the info I am looking for but thanks :)
[12:30] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: you on dapper?
[12:30] <iGotNoTime> yes
[12:30] <ardchoille> what is nubuntu?
[12:30] <bobbyw> for nubs.
[12:30] <gyaresu> bobbyw, preface statements directied to individuals with their name or some of us won't see it.
[12:31] <Fucty_> network ubuntu
[12:31] <gyaresu> bobbyw, man tar
[12:31] <Subhuman> ardchoille, itz a ubuntu live CD with network security tools on it.
[12:31] <ardchoille> Ahh, thank you
[12:31] <cotroler> i opened xorg.conf and it ws empty in recovery mode.....any help pls??
[12:31] <bobbyw> gyaresu: okay, I understand tar, why all the zxvf
[12:31] <bobbyw> gyaresu: why not just tar this.tar.gz
[12:31] <ic56> $u2: most likely you changed an important config file, like ~/.gnomerc so that it now causes you to exit as the first action taken upon login.  Try logging in from the consle to investigate. (alt-shift-F1 to get to the 1st console.  the GUI is on F7)
[12:31] <rubikcube> hi!
[12:31] <ic56> abhinay: most likely you changed an important config file, like ~/.gnomerc so that it now causes you to exit as the first action taken upon login.  Try logging in from the consle to investigate. (alt-shift-F1 to get to the 1st console.  the GUI is on F7)
[12:32] <gyaresu> bobbyw, read the fantastically documented manual. "man tar"
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: x = extract z = gunzip v = verbose f = file
[12:32] <Vratha> it's getting to be damned annoying
[12:32] <iGotNoTime> Flannel: how do I use the showpackage command?
[12:33] <Flannel> iGotNoTime: apt-cache showpkg [package] 
[12:33] <iGotNoTime> thanks :)
[12:33] <Vratha> meh, whatever, i just have to use "nscd" and i'm golden
[12:33] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: dpkg -l gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs w32codecs amarok
[12:33] <Vratha> stupid damned gdm
[12:33] <iGotNoTime> you guys are great!
[12:33] <rubikcube> anyone here who knows why the LaTeX documentation is in big parts in pdf format instead of dvi?  In most other distros this is not the case
[12:33] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: did that yesterday too
[12:33] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: thank you
[12:33] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: what does that command give you?
[12:34] <gyaresu> bobbyw, and the programme "file" will tell you what a file 'actually' is. not like windows where the characters after the dots mean something.
[12:34] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: pastebin might be best
[12:34] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: it installed the gstreamer engine
[12:34] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: what does that command give you? - pastbin please
[12:34] <iGotNoTime> one moment
[12:36] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18854
[12:37] <bobbyw> gyaresu: I'm still confused by the whole things after dots don't mean anything
[12:38] <george_looney> hey there people, how to I override ".xsession" with the commandline for "startx"?
[12:38] <gyaresu> bobbyw, try going into your home directory and doing the command 'file blah' where blah is some file.
[12:38] <cotroler> !xorg
[12:38] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:39] <bobbyw> hmm
[12:39] <bobbyw> strangely amusing
[12:39] <bobbyw> what's a symbolic link?
[12:39] <bobbyw> a fancy name for a link in windows?
[12:39] <Flannel> it's like a shortcut.  only better.
[12:39] <ajmitch> Vratha: let me guess, gdm decided to start working after it was restarted fully?
[12:39] <gyaresu> bobbyw, now try doing it on a bunch of different files. linux doesn't care what the file is called. ie thing.tar.gz then rename to thing.wooble would not change the file.
[12:39] <ic56> george_looney: I don't think you can override .xsession from the startx commandline.  You'll have to rename the file before invoking startx
[12:40] <Flannel> bobbyw: it's an alias of the file, essentially.
[12:40] <Vratha> ajmitch: no, gdm started to work after i decided to install 'nscd', the name service cache daemon
[12:40] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo: here's the thing. I am not at all concerned with codecs because it works for my mp3's and that is all I need amarok for. I use VLC for video. However the only reason I am in the IRC now is because Amarok is not seeing my Sansa MP3 player. I am now running Amarok v. 1.39 and need to upgrade to 1.41 for it to work with my Sansa. That is why I am here, trying to learn how to update...
[12:40] <ajmitch> Vratha: interesting
[12:40] <iGotNoTime> ...software not really caring about codecs :(
[12:40] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: you seriously need to read a beginner's guide to linux.
[12:40] <Vratha> ajmitch: though, on debian it worked fine without, but whatever
[12:40] <bobbyw> haha
[12:40] <Vratha> i still can't determine the exact reason, but this seems to fix it
[12:40] <bobbyw> yeah, well I'm more of a hands on kind of guy
[12:40] <Subhuman> iGotNoTime, go to the amaraok website, and compile it from source.
[12:40] <george_looney> ic56: I want to execute "startfluxbox" sometimes without editing ".xsession"
[12:40] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: well get your hands on a book then.
[12:40] <Subhuman> iGotNoTime, look at !compile and !checkinstall
[12:41] <gyaresu> bobbyw, a symbolic link is handy to point to a place. i.e. put a link to /mnt/thing/stuff/thing/blah in your home directory that stops you from having to type the whole path out.
[12:41] <iGotNoTime> ok
[12:41] <ajmitch> Vratha: however I know it's not nscd that fixed it, since I didn't install nscd, but gdm mysteriously got fixed :)
[12:41] <bobbyw> I mean, in the day I've been using linux I installed all my drivers, configured my desktop and all my programs, learned how to install programs, ./configure/make/make install, blah blah
[12:41] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: create a session for it, stick in /usr/share/xsessions/
[12:41] <Subhuman> bobbyw, you know how apt-get works yes?
[12:41] <bobbyw> oh, I see
[12:41] <timmow> hi can anyone explain why chown is not working on an ext3 partition
[12:41] <bobbyw> that's...smart
[12:41] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: then how do I select it after that?
[12:42] <bobbyw> Subhuman: yep
[12:42] <bobbyw> Subhuman: more or less
[12:42] <george_looney> I have "exec startxfce4" in .xsession now
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: from the sessions menu in gdm/kdm/xdm  or whatever.
[12:42] <gyaresu> bobbyw, man is your friend. more than google really. e.g. 'man ln'
[12:42] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: ok, this might sound weird - my startx respects .xsession.....
[12:42] <bobbyw> I've only been running linux a day and I already have a hard on for it :)
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: why are you using startx?
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: its really that good, isn't it :)
[12:43] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: I don't really run gdm all the time, I use startx to fire up X!
[12:43] <gyaresu> bobbyw, remember that it's still a stupid computer.
[12:43] <bobbyw> gyaresu: I learned that, but some really basic commands arn't in man
[12:43] <ic56> george_looney: I'm not familiar with startfluxbox.  Assuming it has the same limitation as startx, I recommend writing yourself a tiny script that renames ~/.xsession, invokes startfluxbox in the background, waits a second or two, and renames .xsession back to its original filename
[12:43] <`Evil`> enverex, I'm actually getting a kick out of watching XP install in Linux    LOL   Geek XD
[12:43] <Flannel> bobbyw: for some command line stuff, and other mechaics, http://www.linux.org/lessons/  the beginners one.  You can skip a bit of it (it's 'for' debian, but its essentially the same, skip over the installation, etc)
[12:43] <george_looney> ic56: good idea, but,, ugly hack
[12:43] <gyaresu> bobbyw, like?
[12:44] <bobbyw> gyaresu: I can't remember now, but I've typed a few commands in before and I guess I typed the wrong thing because I got no page
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: check the gentoo wiki, lots of excellent docs there.
[12:44] <timmow> logging in as another user chown works fine on that users files.  But I cannot chown my files and neither can the other user
[12:44] <george_looney> ic56: man startx says "startx [ [client]  option ] "
[12:44] <frogzoo> iGotNoTime: the repo you need is: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main
[12:44] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: ok
[12:44] <bobbyw> No manual entry for woman
[12:44] <iGotNoTime> frogzoo THANK YOU! :D:D
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> ^ typical newbie
[12:44] <bobbyw> like I said, I learn from hands on. I don't read manuals. :P
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: you need to start reading them, that's the bottom line.
[12:45] <gyaresu> bobbyw, tab complete is great.
[12:45] <iGotNoTime> bobbyw: your hand is not the same as a woman
[12:45] <Vratha> `Evil`: install in linux via vmware?
[12:45] <ic56> george_looney: yes.  It's the old-fashioned way of doing it.  If you really don't like it, fix the source code.  startx is a bash script so that's easy.  Dunno what startfluxbox is.
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> ic56: startfluxbox is a script to run a flux session
[12:45] <george_looney> ic56: startfluxbox is another script like startkde and startgnome and so on..
[12:46] <`Evil`> Vratha, QEMU, dont have much experience, just trying it out cos of some progs I need to run
[12:46] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: I imagine when I get stuck I'll be reading a whole lot of man pages, but I'm really picking up as much as I can as fast as I can, so I don't get bored with it and reboot to windows, never to see linux again
[12:46] <kane77> how do i find out the hostname of ip in my lan??
[12:46] <Vratha> `Evil`: ah, ok.. vmware is a better solution though
[12:46] <andy-> Hi
[12:46] <bobbyw> can you imagine what it was like finding, installing, configuring, and using wine for the first time?
[12:46] <george_looney> bobbyw: yes
[12:46] <bobbyw> all for a silly little torrent program
[12:47] <`Evil`> Vratha, Dammit. I searched the net and found everyone using qemu, plus isnt vmware commercial?
[12:47] <Flannel> bobbyw: why on earth did you installw ine for a torrent program?
[12:47] <gyaresu> andy-, hi
[12:47] <ic56> george_looney: ok then.  So modify startfluxbox to give it an option to specify an alternate config file to ~/.xsession .  Specifying /dev/null will allow you to bypass the standard config file.
[12:47] <bobbyw> Flannel: utorrent is hands down the best torrent client
[12:47] <andy-> Just installed Xubuntu, it's fast :)
[12:47] <gyaresu> bobbyw, try rtorrent run under screen
[12:47] <bobbyw> Flannel: I used a bunch of linux ones, they were all really bad
[12:47] <george_looney> ic56: its alright I will just mod my startx
[12:47] <Vratha> `Evil`: yeah, vmware is commercial software, but they just released vmware server for free non-commercial use
[12:47] <iGotNoTime> How can anyone say that Azureus is bad??
[12:47] <m_0_r_0_n> Any idea how to fix this problem:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:47] <ic56> george_looney: ok.
[12:48] <usuario> hola
[12:48] <bobbyw> azureus is bloated, java crap!
[12:48] <iGotNoTime> by far the most powerful out there and it is java
[12:48] <timmow> ok what sort of linux distribution won't let you chown your own files, and how do I change that?
[12:48] <kane77> hi... how do i find out the hostname of ip in my lan??
[12:48] <bobbyw> utorrent and wine together use less ram than azureus
[12:48] <bobbyw> in the wrong os!
[12:48] <iGotNoTime> bloated yes but loaded as well
[12:48] <george_looney> timmow: all distros dude ;)
[12:48] <usuario> hola
[12:48] <gyaresu> iGotNoTime, azureus uses java and steals all your ram.
[12:48] <usuario> hello
[12:48] <marcus__> can anybody tell e why when edubuntu shuts down it says something about stopping a bittorrent tracker? I don't remember installing one?
[12:48] <george_looney> bobbyw: only root can do that
[12:48] <bobbyw> iGotNoTime: I don't need a loaded/bloated client, especially when there is a client as awesome as utorrent
[12:48] <iGotNoTime> I am aware but I have 2GB I don't get stressed over it
[12:49] <bobbyw> heh
[12:49] <iGotNoTime> your call bobby :)
[12:49] <usuario> alguien  habla  en  espaol
[12:49] <george_looney> ooops I mean timmow: on ly root can do that
[12:49] <usuario> hola
[12:49] <bobbyw> I just really, really perfer utorrent
[12:49] <george_looney> !es
[12:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:49] <`Evil`> Vratha, Oh. So what would you suggest for the best emulation and performance? qemu, vmware, some planner (heard) etc? Cos XP is still installing the files before the GUI mode, so I can still delete the image
[12:49] <frogzoo> bobbyw: azureus is by no means crap, it's quite excellent and runs on many platforms
[12:49] <iGotNoTime> my friend uses it too  ;)
[12:49] <timmow> ok sorry root isn't allowed either
[12:49] <marcus__> i like vmware. :)
[12:49] <gyaresu> !es
[12:49] <Vratha> `Evil`: i suggest vmware for the best performance; it's not an emulator even.. it's a full blown virtual machine
[12:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:49] <george_looney> timmow: huh!!??
[12:49] <bobbyw> frogzoo: yes, that's true, but when it comes down to the little things about utorrent... you can't give it up.
[12:49] <george_looney> timmow: lemme see
[12:50] <ic56> m_0_r_0_n: try apt-get install libstdc++6
[12:50] <Vratha> `Evil`: though it does capture hardware calls and provides interfaces for things like the AMD lance network card, etc... pretty crappy hardware overall
[12:50] <george_looney> Vratha: so is qemu
[12:50] <bobbyw> frogzoo: like right clicking the bottom right corners and changing upload/download speeds on the fly, and manually setting your own values for that list
[12:50] <ardchoille> timmow: can you pastebin those examples please?
[12:50] <Vratha> but it's gonna be way faster than qemu
[12:50] <marcus__> can anybody tell e why when edubuntu shuts down it says something about stopping a bittorrent tracker? I don't remember installing one?
[12:50] <Vratha> george_looney: qemu is ass slow and doesn't do virtualization anywhere near what vmware does
[12:50] <ardchoille> !repeat
[12:50] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:50] <george_looney> Vratha: ave you benchmarked them?
[12:50] <frogzoo> bobbyw: azureus does that now
[12:50] <m_0_r_0_n> ic56, libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[12:50] <bobbyw> there are lots of little things you just can't man :(
[12:50] <Vratha> george_looney: no, i've just seen performance
[12:50] <george_looney> Vratha: then what exactly is qemu??
[12:51] <Vratha> it's easy to tell just by running the apps
[12:51] <Vratha> the "quick emulator"
[12:51] <bobbyw> frogzoo: not the newest version.... I tried it yesterday
[12:51] <timmow> ok won't work with sudo, but will with su ... i swear ive done it with sudo before
[12:51] <frogzoo> george_looney: qemu is an emulator
[12:51] <`Evil`> Vratha, ah k, leme search some vmware install guide on the net
[12:51] <bobbyw> hmm
[12:51] <bobbyw> whoa
[12:51] <bobbyw> it does
[12:51] <frogzoo> bobbyw: you right click the file -> advanced -> speeds
[12:51] <george_looney> frogzoo: so how are vmware and qemu different??
[12:51] <ardchoille> timmow: Which command are you using?
[12:51] <frogzoo> george_looney: they do the same thing differently
[12:52] <bobbyw> also: this pops up every time I start az, regardless of how many times i update it: SWT is the graphical library used by Azureus
[12:52] <timmow> sudo chown myusername:svn * -R
[12:52] <Vratha> george_looney: one runs instructions directly on the CPU... even taking advantage of hardware VM solutions such as intel's VT-x
[12:52] <Vratha> george_looney: and qemu doesn't
[12:52] <frogzoo> george_looney: qemu is free but slower than vmware, vmware & kqemu are similiar speedwise
[12:52] <TooSad> hi
[12:52] <ic56> m_0_r_0_n: try dpkg -L libstdc++6  Does it list the missing file?  If yes, then you'd better re-install the package cause the file somehow got deleted.  If not, then I gave you the wrong pacakge -- try apt-cache search <some prefix of the needed library>
[12:52] <timmow> but if I log in as root, I can do that
[12:52] <Vratha> ah, yeah, kqemu does do more what vmware does
[12:52] <`Evil`> Vratha, now that you mentioned Intel, I have AMD 64, it matters?
[12:52] <TooSad> i have a optical and wireless mouse, how can install it?
[12:52] <Vratha> but that is proprietary software
[12:53] <fyrestrtr> TooSad: plug it in?
[12:53] <bobbyw> the tabs in az are ewww
[12:53] <Vratha> `Evil`: you probably have AMD's virtualization hardware then... but even if you don't, it'll still run fast
[12:53] <ardchoille> sudo chown -R myusername:svn /path/to/dir/*  has worked for me in the past
[12:53] <ardchoille> timmow: sudo chown -R myusername:svn /path/to/dir/*  has worked for me in the past
[12:53] <george_looney> timmow: thats what I meant when I said only root can do that
[12:53] <bobbyw> svn?
[12:53] <`Evil`> Vratha, kqemu? Wasnt that KDE's version of qemu (i think) or is it different?
[12:53] <TooSad> fyrestrtr no
[12:53] <ic56> ALL4N: right. I've never used q.  Took me a while to figure out what the hell was happening when I accidentally pressed q and how to get out of that mode.  Scary!
[12:53] <Flannel> timmow: it has to do with default directories for root vs sudo
[12:53] <Vratha> `Evil`: no, kqemu is some proprietary app made by some guy... i'd just go with vmware
[12:53] <timmow> yeah it has worked for me in the past, but not now...
[12:53] <TooSad> i have inser the dongle wi-fi but the mouse don't go
[12:54] <`Evil`> Vratha, k
[12:54] <george_looney> timmow: you don't want a normal user to write a bash file containing rm -fr and chown it to root and setuid on it and then execute!!!
[12:54] <PanicFo> how can i make an app start automaticcaly when gnome fires up?
[12:54] <PanicFo> or when the system boots?
[12:54] <TooSad> i have gnome
[12:54] <ardchoille> timmow: But, then again, I always use full pths and rarely leave my ~ dir
[12:54] <timmow> george_looney, yep I understand my stupidy now
[12:54] <ardchoille> s/pths/paths/
[12:54] <frogzoo> george_looney: ummm....
[12:54] <TooSad> is there an application to run?
[12:54] <timmow> george_looney, feel a bit silly now
[12:54] <jrib> PanicFo: system > preferences > sessions > startup
[12:54] <PanicFo> thnx mate
[12:55] <m_0_r_0_n> ic56, no, it doesnt list the missing file. I will search the package containing this file, thanks
[12:55] <bobbyw> i love that audioscrobbler is either built into every linux mp3 player i've tried, or already has a plugin out of the box
[12:55] <Vratha> hmm, ubuntu only seems to have kmplayer and not just "mplayer" :(
[12:55] <george_looney> frogzoo: yes...you were saying..?
[12:55] <TooSad> who can help me?
[12:55] <george_looney> Vratha: its in multiverse
[12:56] <fyrestrtr> Vratha: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:56] <frogzoo> george_looney: you can't suid linux bash scripts
[12:56] <bobbyw> anyone know how to stop my mouse up and down wheel to stop doing what 4 and 5 buttons should do? back and forward?
[12:56] <timmow> confirmed, on my arch linux box I can chown a file in my home dir with sudo, but not on ubuntu
[12:56] <Vratha> george_looney: ah, ok; i'll add that to my repository; i'm using "universe" now
[12:56] <timmow> which is what confused me
[12:56] <bunta> Okey, bit off-topic.. but funny: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7184420933710108270
[12:56] <bunta> xD
[12:56] <george_looney> frogzoo: :D ooops sorry forgot that one ... just givin an example I did want to say
[12:57] <`Evil`> Vratha, this install is taking a Lot of time, can I close the window or anyother way?
[12:57] <Jh00> bunta how can I watch that on Linux?
[12:57] <Vratha> `Evil`: i don't recall the install taking long :-/
[12:58] <frogzoo> `Evil`: what's a long time, in your books?
[12:58] <`Evil`> Vratha, It got stuck i think at Installing Devices part, maybe it freezed
[12:58] <george_looney> timmow: "cd $HOME; touch myfile; sudo chown root myfile" works on my box
[12:58] <`Evil`> frogzoo, About 15mins+ on Installing Devices
[12:58] <bunta> Jh00, you can just use flash :o
[12:58] <bunta> have it installed (so.. firefox or swiftfox I suppose)
[12:58] <bunta> :p
[12:59] <frogzoo> !fixinstall > `Evil`
[12:59] <timmow> george_looney, not on mine
[12:59] <Jh00> bunta: hmm firefox inst installed in default Kubuntu I guess... I will pass, thanks
[01:00] <george_looney> timmow: strange I just removed the "myfile" with rm and it was root owned
[01:00] <`Evil`> frogzoo, Not ubuntu, I'm installing XP in qemu
[01:00] <timmow> george_looney, this is a clean install of dapper kubuntu - maybe if you did upgrades its not the same
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> Jh00: kubutnu komes with konqueror
[01:00] <timmow> george_looney, im basing it on ls -lh
[01:00] <bunta> lol
[01:00] <bunta> Grab swiftfox
[01:00] <bunta> no need to install that :P
[01:00] <bunta> getswiftfox.com ;)
[01:00] <bunta> Just extract, and run =D
[01:00] <timmow> george_looney, but I am allowed to remove the file ...
[01:01] <jrib> george_looney: you can rm if you have write ownership to the directory it is in I think
[01:01] <`Evil`> Anyone know any specific way to kill qemu or just close the window?
[01:01] <frogzoo> `Evil`: oh, depending on doze version, you might need the workaround - qemu --help i think
[01:01] <george_looney> timmow: well, I'm on custom Ubuntu from alternate with full upgrades applied
[01:01] <fyrestrtr> `Evil`: you can kill the process from another term
[01:02] <frogzoo> `Evil`: -win2k-hack     needed for doze 2000
[01:02] <george_looney> jrib: I know, I actually filed it as a bug report to bugs@gnu.org long time ago!!!!
[01:02] <CyDrive> Can someone help me im trying to get forstwire to work in terminal i type frostwire and it says i need to install java but i did i reinstalled java again but it dosent work. What should i do?
[01:02] <`Evil`> fyrestrtr, how do I do that? qemu isnt coming under the running processes in system monitor
[01:02] <`Evil`> frogzoo, Its XP SP2
[01:02] <MikeyMike> this is off topic but is there a site that i can check out that regards well designed cases for keeping my hardrives cool?
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: not the java plugin, but the JRE
[01:02] <george_looney> jrib: I think I'm loosing my memory!
[01:02] <MikeyMike> anyone in here into building comps
[01:02] <MikeyMike> for that purpose
[01:02] <MenZa> !offtopic
[01:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:02] <jrib> CyDrive: did you install Sun Java?
[01:02] <CyDrive> yeah i installed sun java
[01:02] <Vratha> george_looney: hmm, i added multiverse from dapper-backports to my sources.list and did "apt-get update", but i still dont see just "mplayer"
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: did you install just the plugin? You need to install the jre as well, the update-alternatives java
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: follow the wiki on installing java
[01:03] <Jh00> bunta: ok, downloading... Im running this from a CD you know :)
[01:03] <frogzoo> `Evil`: a qemu install will be horribly slow - don't think 15mins is necessarily a problem...
[01:03] <jrib> CyDrive: run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure sun's java is selected
[01:03] <george_looney> Vratha: you need "deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse"
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> !info mplayer
[01:03] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[01:04] <timmow> george_looney, another twist sudo vim is now not working
[01:04] <kolaje> has anyone tried hosting a rom or diku mud from ubuntu?
[01:04] <Vratha> george_looney: ooh, ok
[01:04] <marcus__> where does one install fonts in ubuntu?
[01:04] <george_looney> timmow: yipes!
[01:04] <frogzoo> `Evil`: I tend to do it once, than gzip the image away rather than reinstalling
[01:04] <jrib> !fonts > marcus__
[01:04] <timmow> in one shell though, not in another one so I guess something weird is going on...
[01:04] <`Evil`> frogzoo, Yep had experiences installing xp, but i'm damn sure its stuck cos its about close to 20 mins and its not budging from Installing devices, :/
[01:04] <marcus__> thank you
[01:05] <kolaje> has anyone tried hosting a rom or diku mud from ubuntu?
[01:05] <CyDrive> thank you that fixed it it was using a diffrent version of java
[01:05] <frogzoo> `Evil`: my advice, grab a sandwich - qemu installs are impossibly slow
[01:05] <MikeyMike> ugh
[01:05] <bunta> Jh00, jahootsiezz.. Why u runnin a livecd? :p
[01:05] <`Evil`> frogzoo, hmm.. k lemme try
[01:05] <bunta> Install! And rid urself of ur sins
[01:05] <fyrestrtr> `Evil`: my advice, pop in a movie. I recommend 'Blazing Saddles'
[01:05] <bunta> I am jebus! I am here to clean away all ur windows sins
[01:06] <bunta> and send u straight to linux heaven ;p
[01:06] <MikeyMike> ok
[01:06] <MikeyMike> why do i get sent to offtopic
[01:06] <MikeyMike> that always irks me
[01:06] <`Evil`> fyrestrtr, lol.. yep but seeing qemu now I'm seriously checking out vmware
[01:06] <andy-> bunta: you ever watch Initial D?
[01:06] <bunta> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1921276117304287501&q=george+bush <-- nice :p
[01:06] <jrib> MikeyMike: there is a #hardware channel you can try
[01:06] <MikeyMike> andy-,  haha yes! thats what i was thinking
[01:06] <MikeyMike> Bunta!
[01:07] <andy-> MikeyMike: the man that never stops smoking
[01:07] <g0st> Anyone get Ubuntu hacks?
[01:07] <MikeyMike> andy-,  or kicking ass....
[01:07] <frogzoo> `Evil`: found this quote: "Wait. Then wait some more while the XP install process takes place. For some reason it takes hours even on a very fast machine. Many people have pointed this out but no one seems to know why. After the install was complete my copy of XP hung on the first boot (no progress and no CPU useage). This has been reported by some people who have waited more than a day for the system to boot with no effect. I got fed up of waiting and sh
[01:07] <andy-> MikeyMike: indeed..
[01:07] <bunta> andy-, I've heard of it.. its that racing anime right?
[01:07] <bunta> MikeyMike, yo =D
[01:07] <andy-> MikeyMike: have you seen the movie? bunta is even funnier in that.
[01:07] <MikeyMike> turbo.... awd
[01:07] <`Evil`> frogzoo, lmao
[01:07] <frogzoo> `Evil`: so your call really
[01:07] <MikeyMike> andy-,  yah he's a doggone drunk
[01:07] <andy-> bunta: yeah, there is a movie based on it too.
[01:07] <bunta> andy- lol, nawp.. Might go grab it.. :P
[01:07] <andy-> lol yea, awesome stuff.
[01:07] <`Evil`> frogzoo, hehe.. that reminded me of douglas adams style of writing :D
[01:08] <MikeyMike> andy-,  i have a turbo awd eclipse :)
[01:08] <george_looney> later people and thanks for all the help :)
[01:08] <MikeyMike> no drifting for me...
[01:08] <andy-> ooh nice
[01:08] <andy-> MikeyMike: im in audi a4, not much drifting either =\
[01:08] <MikeyMike> :D awd for the win
[01:08] <bunta> I have no car
[01:08] <andy-> yea
[01:08] <bunta> for I am a cheap bastard..
[01:08] <andy-> bunta: hehe
[01:08] <timmow> right sudo just stopped working.  Now closing konsole and restarting it gives timmy is not in the sudoers file
[01:08] <MikeyMike> i've got alot of mods.. hks 272's 880cc injectors 50trim so on so forth
[01:09] <bunta> and spend all my money on non-motor related items :p
[01:09] <timmow> so has some update stopped sudo working?
[01:09] <Enverex> I seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that? There are far too many things starting at boot and BUM doesn't seem to disable them when I tell it to (and update-rc.d isn't much use as I can't really see what's going on with it)
[01:09] <jrib> timmow: type 'groups', are you in the admin group?
[01:10] <timmow> jrib, yep
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: update-rc.d is a wrapper to remove/add init.d scripts. What do you find confusing about it, and what services are you trying to disable?
[01:10] <MikeyMike> i need a harddrive cooler that isn't noisy as shit
[01:10] <MikeyMike> bah
[01:10] <Jh00> bunta: it worked! Thanks for the tip!
[01:10] <timmow> I installed three kde updates this morning, and since then sudo has stopped working
[01:10] <jrib> timmow: you have root access?
[01:10] <frogzoo> oh noes - the new amarok look is awful
[01:10] <timmow> jrib, yep
[01:10] <zaida> hi all
[01:10] <jrib> timmow: is the admin group in your /etc/sudoers?
[01:10] <zaida> how can i add a new network interface?
[01:11] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Well something like BUM would be useful if it worked. I have lots of things like power management (laptop stuff), laptop keys, boinc, etc that I dont want started
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> zaida: first, check in system > administration > networking to see if its detected.
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: hrmm, just a second
[01:11] <zaida> its not detected
[01:11] <bunta> Jh00, no problemos.. Glad to help ;)
[01:11] <timmow> jrib, it has a % in front of it, so I assume not...
[01:11] <root___> anyone use vnc/freenx in here?
[01:11] <bunta> Maybe u can donate a car :P
[01:11] <Da_Putzler> hi guys
[01:11] <jrib> timmow: no, that's the correct syntax for groups
[01:11] <bunta> as a gesture of good will ;p
[01:11] <zaida> fyrestrtr, its not detected in system > administration > networking
[01:12] <Da_Putzler> Can someone help me with a power management problem...
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: if you know the names of the scripts, you can just disable them from update-rc.d -- what have you tried?
[01:12] <root___> anyone use vnc/freenx in here?
[01:12] <Jh00> bunta: LOL that one is funny!
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> zaida: is it detected by your system?
[01:12] <zaida> fyrestrtr, but i can see it in dmesg
[01:12] <jrib> timmow: and you are sure that groups said 'admin', not something like 'lpadmin'?
[01:12] <timmow> jrib, I think I am running a different version of KDE from automatix - so I guess that could be causing the problem
[01:12] <Da_Putzler> I've set my lcd monitor to power down an dsleep in 5 minutes, but when it does, the screen just blanks instead of actually turning the monitor off and onyto standby... anu ideas ?
[01:12] <zaida> fyrestrtr, [17179596.560000]  eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd895e000, 00:05:1c:06:4e:26, IRQ 169
[01:12] <timmow> yep
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> zaida: you don't see eth0 in network manager ?
[01:13] <zaida> fyrestrtr, but not in lspci
[01:13] <bunta> =P
[01:13] <bunta> I have plenty more comin
[01:13] <bunta> I just gots to errm.. test em myself ;)
[01:13] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Well I don't know the names of the scripts for a start, heh
[01:13] <zaida> fyrestrtr, no i can't see it
[01:13] <zaida> fyrestrtr, i can see only eth1
[01:13] <timmow> jrib, definitely admin
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: ls /etc/init.d/ (don't start deleting files from there -- just get the names and then use update-rc.d)
[01:13] <andy-> Anyone have any suggestions for mouse acceleration?
[01:14] <zaida> fyrestrtr, but its another network card
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> zaida: you cannot see it in ifconfig -a ?
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> andy-: a cat :)
[01:14] <zaida> fyrestrtr, no :-(
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> zaida: is the 819too module loaded?
[01:15] <zaida> yes
[01:15] <zaida> fyrestrtr, yes
[01:15] <jrib> timmow: strange, not sure why that would happen.  You can try making a new user in the admin group and seeing if that works.  If it doesn't, then you can try explicitly putting the user's username in sudoers.  Not sure what else to recommend
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> zaida: hrmm, edit /etc/networking/interfaces and add it there then.
[01:15] <root___> anyone use vnc/freenx in here?
[01:15] <andy-> there was a command i used in console which fixed my mouse in ubuntu before.. can't think of it for the life of me
[01:15] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, k. Just wish BUM worked, unticking the boxes is hell of a lot faster, heh
[01:15] <andy-> was a 'command 00 00'
[01:15] <andy-> or something along those lines
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: well, for me, cli > *  :)
[01:16] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, meh, I dont see why, it just takes longer to do the same thing in this case
[01:16] <er4z0r> re
[01:16] <zaida> fyrestrtr, auto eth0 is present in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:16] <Da_Putzler> Q.) The Power Management on my Ubuntu system is setup for 5 minutes and after that time my monitor only goes blank and does not switch into standby... any ideas ???
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> zaida: is there a cable plugged into the card?
 i use nx from nomachine.org which is free as well ...
[01:17] <zaida> yes
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> zaida: okay, try sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[01:17] <rr> works like a charm
[01:17] <g0st> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ubuntuhks/
[01:17] <GG_Allin> I'm having trouble getting wpa_supplicant working
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: because you can pipe the output of ls into exec and then do whatever you want ;)
[01:17] <zaida> fyrestrtr, eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[01:17] <g0st> GG_Allin, yeah me too
[01:17] <g0st> it's retarded
[01:18] <er4z0r> anyone running handbrake under ubuntu?
[01:18] <Jh00> time to go. Have a good day everyone!
[01:18] <GG_Allin> for the intel 3945 I use the wext driver, correct?
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> zaida: the network card works, right?
[01:18] <zaida> fyre lspci don'd show the card
[01:18] <er4z0r> Da_Putzler: have you tried booting without the splashscreen and looking what happens?
[01:19] <rr> er4z0r : i stopped using windows bcause of the handbrake :-)
[01:19] <zaida> fyrestrtr, i think that it work
[01:19] <zaida> i've buy it yesterday
[01:19] <Da_Putzler> yep, acpm is fine and working... just doesnt turn of the lcd monitor lamp inside, only blanks screen
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> zaida: pastebin the output of lsmod
[01:20] <frogzoo> er4z0r: what's handbrake?
[01:20] <er4z0r> rr: are there any packages around or do i stll have to build it from source?
[01:20] <PanicFo> does anyone know the keycode for the left windows key?
[01:20] <bunta> Guys: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1921276117304287501&q=george+bush
[01:20] <er4z0r> frogzoo: http://handbrake.m0k.org/
[01:20] <bunta> Enjoy.. really.. enjoy it =P God bless america
[01:20] <frogzoo> PanicFo: xev is your friend
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> PanicFo: xev and find out :)
[01:20] <frogzoo> er4z0r: thx
[01:20] <Lwis_Kahel> er4z0r : lol
[01:20] <er4z0r> Lwis_Kahel: ?
[01:21] <rr> er4z0r, sry man, don't even know what "handbrake" is, fill me in ..
[01:21] <root___> HEY!!! anyone use freenx/vnc in here?
[01:21] <Da_Putzler> is their any problems with Ubuntu's power management ?
[01:21] <zaida> fyrestrtr, http://rafb.net/paste/results/aAJXz934.html
[01:21] <frogzoo> Da_Putzler: suspend doesn't work for all platforms
[01:21] <er4z0r> root___: did some time ago yes
[01:22] <Da_Putzler> damn... was hoping it would work for my lcd monitor... oh well...
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> zaida: what does mii-tool eth0 tell you?
[01:22] <er4z0r> Da_Putzler: what machine/gfx-card?
[01:22] <root___> did you ever run across an error for freenx "failed public key authorization"?
[01:22] <root___> or "remote connection refused by server" for vnc?
[01:22] <PanicFo> dammit.. i want to use the left windowskey to pop up tilda but it doesnt like it one bit
[01:23] <PanicFo> any ideas?
[01:23] <zaida> fyrestrtr, eth1: autonegotiation failed, link ok
[01:23] <er4z0r> root___: sorry, didn't. Also didn't use it very extensively
[01:23] <PanicFo> ive tried Super_L and 0xffeb but it fails
[01:23] <Da_Putzler> it's an on-board gfx card
[01:23] <frogzoo> Da_Putzler: it doesn't work for ALL platforms, but does work for most - what's your vid card? that's the biggest issue
[01:23] <er4z0r> rr: DVD-"Backup" Tool. see link above ;)
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> zaida: nothing for eth0 ?
[01:23] <zaida> fyrestrtr, nothing
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> zaida: hrmm, could be a bad card.
[01:24] <rr> er4z0r : , readin right now thnx ..
[01:24] <er4z0r> Da_Putzler: could you please b more specific about the card
[01:24] <er4z0r> Da_Putzler: look for the lspci output
[01:24] <frogzoo> PanicFo: it's possible, not likely, the key's not mapped in kernel
[01:24] <root___> ok easier problem then... i somehow managed to screw up my sudo abilities about 20 minutes ago so now i have to be root to make changes... how do i fix that again
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> zaida: lspci -vv -- paste the part about the card.
[01:24] <root___> all it asks for is passowrd but it doesn't complete my command
[01:24] <Da_Putzler> how do I do that ? I dunno how to list hardware on Ubuntu
[01:24] <frogzoo> PanicFo: showkey -s    give you anything?
[01:25] <er4z0r> ok
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: type lspci -vv
[01:25] <er4z0r> root___: how did you screw it up? ;)
[01:25] <er4z0r> root___: did you really enter YOUR password at the prompt? or did you try the root-pw all the time? ;)
[01:26] <PanicFo> did it :D
[01:26] <PanicFo> thnx anyway :)
[01:26] <Da_Putzler> It's a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Itegrated Video (rev 01)
[01:26] <PanicFo> i had to type in "none+Super_L" in the keybinding thingie
[01:26] <root___> cuz there were some permission problems with freenx and the nx user and a different user i was trying to log in as and i thought i didn't have the right permissions so i changed them... left out the sudo group on accident... readded it but now i cant sudo
[01:26] <zaida> fyrestrtr, i've got two equal card
[01:27] <zaida> fyrestrtr, only one is showed
[01:27] <root___> does ubuntu make a habit of port blocking?
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> zaida: might be a irq conflict
[01:28] <gatekeeper> root___: did some googling and found this: http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR10B00046
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[01:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:28] <bunta> lololol:
[01:28] <bunta> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1921276117304287501&q=george+bush
[01:28] <pirast> hi, i want to use my two soundcards (onboard and audigy2). for audio output i want to use my audigy2.. how can i select the audigy2 as a ourput device in ubuntu?
[01:28] <bunta> Watch it.. its like 9 seconds long
[01:28] <bunta> Thats.. funneh =D
[01:28] <zaida> fyrestrtr, what can i do to resolve it?
[01:29] <zaida> fyrestrtr, look this http://rafb.net/paste/results/hn5Qna47.html
[01:29] <rr> pirast : is there a device listed cvalled emu10k ?
[01:29] <root___> ..... huh?
[01:30] <rr> pirast : or similar
[01:30] <pygi> anyone care to gimme the name of python bindings for libglade, and python bindings for gtk?
[01:30] <pirast> rr: sure it is
[01:31] <pirast> rr: alsa detects my cards correctly.. but my onboardchip is the sound output device
[01:31] <Da_Putzler> is their an easy way to disable services and speed up booting time in Ubuntu ???
[01:31] <rr> pirast : but u can't use it as the ouput dev ?
[01:31] <rr> pirats : right
[01:31] <pygi> Da_Putzler, BUM
[01:31] <Da_Putzler> bum ?
[01:32] <pygi> aha, application :P
[01:32] <Da_Putzler> and are things like Cron and Kcron really needed ?
[01:32] <pirast> rr: i could but i would have to disable my onboard device
[01:33] <devan> hi, im new to linux, can some1 pls tell me how i can listen to mp3's
[01:33] <pirast> rr: and since i want to use my onboard device on an other way, i cant disable it :-(
[01:33] <blup|patrick> hi
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> pygi: python-glade-1.2 python-gtk-1.2
[01:33] <rr> pirast : looking for a alsa config file , can't find it ...
[01:33] <Da_Putzler> devan: what linux have u installed ?? Ubuntu ??? if so, load RhythmBox to play audio files
[01:33] <blup|patrick> whcih linux tool can i use to check harddrives
[01:33] <pygi> fyrestrtr, not for gtk 1.2 :P
[01:34] <devan> ok
[01:34] <ic56> Da_Putzler: cron is an essential service, though things will work for a while without it.  kcron is not essential.
[01:34] <ian> devan Look on Ubuntu Support Home (on the website) for "restricted file formats".
[01:34] <pygi> but right :)
[01:34] <rr> pirast : i suppose u use alsa
[01:34] <blup|patrick> i have a harddrive that failed and owuld like to document that faillure
[01:34] <ian> Anyone know why my USB thumb drive isn't being detected?
[01:34] <pirast> rr: yes, thats correct.
[01:34] <blup|patrick> need a tool that scan a drive for bad sectors
[01:34] <gatekeeper> blup|patrick: badblocks, and I think smartctrl
[01:35] <blup|patrick> smartcrtl... ok... searching for it
[01:35] <Da_Putzler> ic56: ho wabout klogd and sysklogd (the activity loggers) are those needed ? and anacron,atd
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> zaida: are these both external cards, or are they built-in?
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> zaida: or is one built-in?
[01:35] <george_looney> can I ask a potentially volatile and possibly flame-bait question??
[01:35] <sus_> hello guys
[01:35] <rr> pirast : /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[01:35] <frogzoo> george_looney: oh yes
[01:35] <chaitu> hi guys!
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: if it has to do with ubuntu, yes, otherwise take it to -ot
[01:35] <sus_> i got a problem with installing the xchat-ruby plugin
[01:35] <pirast> rr: thanks, ill have a look
[01:36] <sus_> i get this error when i do make: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18855
[01:36] <zaida> fyrestrtr, there are two external pci card
[01:36] <george_looney> frogzoo: Are the Debian people very displeased with ubunt guys??
[01:36] <chaitu> is there any one who know to install and config mame in ubuntu
[01:36] <sus_> anyone knows which libs i need to install?
[01:36] <Da_Putzler> looney: why should they be... ubuntu is a damn good debian distro
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> zaida: I think they are both trying to grab the same irq, but I am not sure to be honest.
[01:37] <ic56> Da_Putzler: I take that back about kcron.  I was thinking of anacron.  kcron is a KDE user agent and is unnecessary (unless you are running KDE *and* you want to manage cron from the GUI)
[01:37] <frogzoo> blup|patrick: smartmontools
[01:37] <Da_Putzler> ic56: so anacron isnt really needed ?
[01:37] <zaida> fyrestrtr, what can i do to check this?
[01:37] <george_looney> frogzoo: is it #ubuntu-ot??
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> zaida: I don't know :(
[01:37] <george_looney> frogzoo: or just #ot?
[01:37] <zaida> fyrestrtr, why i can't see it in dmesg?
[01:37] <frogzoo> george_looney: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:37] <george_looney> frogzoo: thanks
[01:38] <rr> pirast : i've no idea how to change the default output channel , but my guess is in this file, change the soundcard order, or with a kernel module parameter
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> zaida: I don't know, sorry.
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: you need anacron.
[01:38] <ic56> Da_Putzler: the loggers are essential services but the system will work without them indefinitely.  There may be programs that are written to abort if logging isn't possible, but I think most will ignore the error condition and continue working.
[01:38] <devan> when i open mp3's with rythembox nothing happens, how can i listen to mp3's please
[01:38] <zaida> fyrestrtr, ok thank you too
[01:38] <pirast> rr: yeah thanks
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > devan
[01:38] <Da_Putzler> <--- just treying to speed up boot times and get rid of unneeded services
[01:39] <ian> Anyone have any idea why a usb thumbdrive won't be detected?
[01:39] <frogzoo> Da_Putzler: logs will fill up is probly worst that will happen
[01:39] <Chousuke> Da_Putzler: Most of the services loaded at boot are necessary.
[01:39] <devan> mp3 > devan?
[01:39] <chaitu> frogzoo, hi
[01:39] <Da_Putzler> frogzoo: does it clear it's own logs or do they keep getting bigger and bigger
[01:39] <frogzoo> chaitu: hiya
[01:39] <PingunZ> goodmorning all
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> logs will fill up, your locate database won't be updated, any scheduled tasks won't be able to run
[01:39] <chaitu> frogzoo, can u help me out
[01:39] <devan> when i open mp3's with rythembox nothing happens, how can i listen to mp3's please
[01:39] <frogzoo> Da_Putzler: they get rolled after a while
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[01:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:40] <frogzoo> chaitu: ask the chan, not me
[01:40] <Da_Putzler> frogzoo: oh, that's ok... will see about removing them
[01:40] <devan> what does !mp3 mean
[01:40] <ic56> Da_Putzler: atd is an essential service.  Though people sometimes build essential functionality around it, people usually build such things into crontabs rather than at jobs so you can get away without an atd.  But, of course, you will lost at(1) job functionality.
[01:40] <Chousuke> it's an ubotu trigger.
[01:40] <jrib> devan: read what ubotu said after the !mp3
[01:40] <ian> devan, he's asking the channel bot to tell you the answer.
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> devan: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:40] <chaitu> frogzoo, do u know anything abt mame?
[01:40] <devan> ok
[01:40] <frogzoo> chaitu: nope
[01:41] <Chousuke> chaitu: you can install mame with apt
[01:41] <ian> Having issues with my USB thumb-drive not being detected.  Anyone got an idea why?
[01:41] <Chousuke> chaitu: then go read the manual pages. It's a bit difficult to use :P
[01:41] <ian> !usb
[01:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> ian: how do you know its not being detected?
[01:41] <chaitu> frogzoo, ya i did it ,but failed in config it
[01:41] <Lwis_Kahel> chaitu : why do you want mame ?
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> ian: because its not showing up on the desktop?
[01:42] <ian> fyrestrtr : Good question.  First time using one.
[01:42] <chaitu> Chousuke, for what they are
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> ian: are you on ubuntu, or something else (kubuntu, etc.)
[01:42] <blup|patrick> frogzoo: jep... that tool doesnt work with sata
[01:42] <CarinArr> does anyone know if there's a way to set font smoothness for firefox? the fonts look very aliased..
[01:42] <ian> fyrestrtr : Where would I find it, if not the desktop (where my external HD shows up...)
[01:42] <Chousuke> chaitu: hm?
[01:42] <blup|patrick> i have installed it already
[01:42] <ic56> Da_Putzler: as for anacron, it allows jobs to be started after a reboot.  It is inessential.  It isn't running on my breezy system (I don't think I disabled it. it's installed but non-running by default)
[01:42] <ian> fyrestrtr : Dapper.
[01:42] <Saharsh> hello all
[01:42] <Saharsh> i want a help
[01:42] <Saharsh> anyone ?
[01:42] <chaitu> Chousuke, do u have any idea how to config it?
[01:42] <ic56> Da_Putzler: does that answer your qeustions?
[01:43] <Chousuke> chaitu: I can't tell you directly what to do, since it's been so long since I last used it.
[01:43] <ian> fyrestrtr : Yeah, just Ubuntu.
[01:43] <drega> Saharsh you want to help anyone
[01:43] <Chousuke> chaitu: but it's all explained in the man page.
[01:43] <drega> jump right in
[01:43] <Saharsh> i want know the difference between kubuntu , ubuntu and edubunt
[01:43] <ic56> Saharsh: ask your question
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> ian: open up a terminal, in it type tail -f /var/log/messages -- then unplug and replug the usb drive and see what shows up.
[01:43] <ic56> !edubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[01:43] <Chousuke> chaitu: just read the man page carefully and you should be able to configure it.
[01:43] <chaitu> Chousuke, guide me
[01:43] <ic56> !kubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:43] <ic56> !ubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:43] <ian> fyrestrtr : Will do.
[01:43] <PingunZ> !kernel
[01:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:44] <PingunZ> !lol
[01:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[01:44] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[01:44] <Chousuke> chaitu: have you installed mame with apt?
[01:44] <ian> fyrestrtr : Ok, done.
[01:44] <chaitu> yup
[01:44] <Chousuke> chaitu: I think there might exist some GUI for mame in the repositories.
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> ian: what did you see in the log window?
[01:45] <Chousuke> chaitu: but what I do know is that you need to have your games in a special directory before you can run them with mame
[01:45] <Chousuke> chaitu: the mame manpage tells what that directory is.
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> is anyone else experiencing lag?
[01:45] <ian> fyrestrtr: Hmm, I forgot where to post things like that...Benn a while since I was here.
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> ian: check the /topic ;)
[01:46] <ic56> !pastebin
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:46] <chaitu> Chousuke, it says in the dir /usr/games/xmame/roms but there is already a file xmame
[01:46] <Chousuke> chaitu: hm?
[01:46] <ian> fyrestrtr: Could you repeat that in slightly more n00b terms? ;)
[01:47] <Chousuke> chaitu: just put your rom .zips in that directory.
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> ian: which bit?
[01:47] <chaitu> Chousuke, there is no dir
[01:47] <ian> fyrestrtr: The part about /topic. I don't understand that part.
[01:47] <Chousuke> chaitu: then create it
[01:47] <Chousuke> sudo mkdir -p /usr/games/xmame/roms
[01:47] <chaitu> Chousuke, there already a file with the same name
[01:48] <khaled_> Hi there, how can i make FireStarter automatically start when i start Ubuntu ?
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> ian: oh, the location of the pastebin service is always listed in the channel topic. You can see what the topic is by typing /topic in your irc client, or just type !pastebin
[01:48] <Chousuke> chaitu: that doesn't matter.
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: it does that by default.
[01:48] <ian> !pastebin
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:48] <ian> fyrestrtr: Ok, one sec while I post.
[01:48] <Chousuke> unless it's a file for some reason, and not a directory. :/
[01:48] <Hexidigital_> does anyone know of any cisco emulation (IOS) software runnable under ubuntu? (for certification classes, etc)
[01:49] <Chousuke> in which case you need to find the other acceptable path.
[01:49] <khaled_> fyrestrtr: I don't think so because i don't see it's icon in the panel, is there any config i should make ???
[01:49] <Chousuke> I think ~/.xmame/roms should work too
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: the gui doesn't start, but the firewall itself is running on startup.
[01:49] <Chousuke> but I'm not sure.
[01:49] <khaled_> fyrestrtr: Ok, Thanx
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: there is an option in firestarter to have it auto-start, have a look in its preferences section.
[01:50] <ian> fyrestrtr: Ok, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18856
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: I mean, auto-start the gui part. Firestarter is just a front end to iptables, which starts up whenever you boot the system. So you don't need to worry that your firewall isn't working or anything.
[01:51] <khaled_> fyrestrtr: This is what i wanted to make sure of, thanx for your help
[01:51] <ian> Side-question: How adequate is firestarter when using default settings?
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> ian: okay, post the output of the command dmesg
[01:52] <root___> http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR07C00239
[01:52] <root___> can someone explain that one too me in laymens terms...?
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> ian: plug in the drive, then run dmesg, and paste its ouput.
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> root___: well you see, there are these tubes right.....
[01:53] <Hexidigital_> anyone know the correct syntax in terminal to not need to type sudo repeatedly? sudo -i {command}?
[01:53] <ian> fyrestrtr: Umm, when I type "dmesg" there is a VERY long output...
[01:53] <jrib> Hexidigital_: just 'sudo -i'
[01:53] <Hexidigital_> jrib::  next line put the command then?
[01:53] <jrib> Hexidigital_: yes, you get a root prompt afterwards
[01:54] <Hexidigital_> jrib::  ah, ty
[01:54] <jrib> Hexidigital_: you can exit, by typing 'exit' by the way :)
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> ian: type this dmesg > ~/output.txt -- then the output is in output.txt and you can open and paste that.
[01:54] <Hexidigital_> jrib::  :) thanks
[01:54] <root___> fyrestrtr: im more interested in how to set the "nx" uid the same as the ldap(whatever the hell that is) id so i can log in
[01:54] <bimberi> Hexidigital_: 'sudo -i' by itself puts you in a root login shell
[01:54] <bobbyw> I need help configuring my mouse wheel and back/forth buttons
[01:54] <bobbyw> can someone please help?
[01:55] <Hexidigital_> heh... i was doing sudo -i apt-get update (so i can install a bunch of programs)
[01:55] <ian> fyrestrtr: I just pasted the output to an amendment (direct from term)
[01:55] <ian> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18858
[01:55] <rr> root___ : i reckon u don't ldap for authentication ?
[01:56] <rr> root___ : did u install freenx or rhe deb's from nomachine.org
[01:56] <blup|patrick> crap.. i sther e not tool out yet, that lets check my satadrive about bad blocks?
[01:56] <pirast> the ubuntu installer has a bug when mounting ntfs partitions. how has the entry in /etc/fstab to look in order to mount a ntfs partition without problems
[01:56] <bobbyw> can't even really mount ntfs rw, can you?
[01:57] <pirast> bobbyw: i only want it to be ro.. but that doesnt work, too..
[01:57] <gatekeeper> bobbyw: there are ways to write to ntfs, there are howto on the ubuntu forums
[01:58] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[01:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> ian: hrmm, strange. Can't see anything USB related there.
[01:58] <pirast> thanks
[01:58] <ryan_naruto> if you plug in a usb printer does ubuntu recognize it automatically????
[01:58] <ian> fyrestrtr: Any luck in understanding all that? ;)  About 70 percent is over my head...
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> ian: do other usb devices work?
[01:58] <ian> fyrestrtr: Yeah, USB external HD worked in the past.
[01:58] <gatekeeper> pirast: there are ways to write to ntfs, there are howto on the ubuntu forums
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> yeah its not a problem to understand it.
[01:59] <frogzoo> ok, now ubuntu does everything I can possibly think of, why will I ever need to upgrade from here?
[01:59] <rr> root___ : do a "dpkg -l | grep nx" to list the packages
[01:59] <pirast> gatekeeper: i know, thank you.. but I dont need it :-) reading is enough for me
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> ian: hrmm, I don't know what is the problem with your usb stick. Try this last thing. Unplug it, wait, replug it in, then type mount
[01:59] <ryan_naruto> my usb stick isnt recognized by ubuntu the second time i plugged it in... even if i rebooted
[01:59] <gatekeeper> pirast: just for info :-)
[02:00] <user-land> Hello, are Grub problems the same on Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[02:00] <pirast> user-land: yes
[02:01] <ian> fyrestrtr: No output re: USB...
[02:01] <ryan_naruto> what would i look for in the after typing in the mount... i have the same problem with my usb stick
[02:01] <user-land> thanks pirast.  I tried to add a few old harddisks to my computer now, but grub threw errors 15 and 17 consistently.
[02:01] <ian> fyrestrtr: Worked about 30 mins ago on my buddy's XP (yuck face) box...
[02:02] <Ace2007> Hi, I'm having trouble compiling firefox, i get an error about freetype, can anyone help?
[02:02] <pirast> user-land: are they slave? you have to make sure that your ubuntu partition is master
[02:02] <khaled_> do anyone one know how can i download the source code of any application?
[02:02] <user-land> the kubuntu partition is master, yes. the others were slave, yes.
[02:03] <andrea> hi^^
[02:03] <user-land> so i removed the other harddisks, but now my dual monitor setup does not work anymore, instead i am stuck with 1024x800 instead of 1200 pixel ...
[02:03] <bimberi> khaled_: sudo apt-get source <package>
[02:03] <frogzoo> khaled_: apt-get source pkgname
[02:03] <Hexidigital_> before i go to #apache, i get an error "could not verify the qualified domain name... using 127.0.0.1"... i WANT it to use localhost, because it's a test server... anyone know which config file i need to edit?
[02:03] <rr> khaled : *i think* u have to add the -src repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <khaled_> thanx guys
[02:03] <rr> klaled : then add the source packages
[02:04] <pirast> user-land: and if everything does not help you can boot from a livecd, look which partition is your ubuntu one and then open grub and type root (hdx,x) followed by setup (hdx)
[02:04] <ian> fyrestrtr: Ok, well, gotta work way too early today.  Have to try again tomorrow night.  <shrug>  Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.
[02:04] <frogzoo> khaled_: yeh - enable the source repos
[02:04] <khaled_> frogzoo: can u elaborate?
[02:04] <pirast> user-land the first x is 0 for hda; 1 for hdb and so on. the second x is 0 for hdx1; 1 for hdx2 and so on
[02:04] <CyDrive> Is there any program for linux that can play dvds?
[02:05] <pirast> !restrictedformats
[02:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:05] <frogzoo> khaled_: synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> enable the source repos
[02:05] <user-land> pirast, this is too complicated for me, i give up using the other harddisks, thank you.
[02:06] <frogzoo> CyDrive: nothing beats gxine
[02:06] <user-land> i remember i had to edit a file manually for the dual head configuration, but i don't remember where.
[02:06] <pirast> user-land: no problem :-) it is not that complicated, it just sounds complicated ;-)
[02:06] <CyDrive> gxine wont play my movie
[02:06] <frogzoo> user-land: read the grub docs sometime
[02:07] <cr3> is there a way to rip a CD to mp3 files from the command line?
[02:07] <user-land> frogzoo, not everybody is that clever ...
[02:07] <ryan_naruto> ive installed the codecs to play avi files but but i cant seem to have a descent display
[02:07] <frogzoo> CyDrive: did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[02:07] <CyDrive> probably not
[02:07] <frogzoo> CyDrive: well there ya go
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> Hexidigital_: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:08] <Hexidigital_> fyrestrtr::  thx :) much appreciated
[02:08] <frogzoo> !restricted > CyDrive
[02:09] <josh__> how long will it take to setup an ftp server so i can move stuff from my work computer to my home computer? where can i find a tutorial on how to do it?
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> josh__: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:10] <josh__> yeah i have open ssh.... didn't work so i had to get lssh
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> josh__: then on your work machine, install winscp and login to the remote machine from there.
[02:10] <josh__> winscp goes over ssh?
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> winscp = windows secure copy
[02:10] <FrekoDing> yes
[02:10] <josh__> oh snap
[02:10] <chemaja> Ignite_: YO BIIIISH
[02:10] <Ignite_> rofl
[02:10] <Ignite_> <3
[02:10] <josh__> thats another for the memory stick lol
[02:11] <rr> josh__ filezilla works too
[02:11] <rr> sry fyre
[02:11] <IRCMonkeyx> hi, In terminal, when i click tab, it asks that do u wanna see all 1899 commands, for example when i wanna learn apt-get, i write man -k , it explains apt-gat, In this way it takes too much time, what command must i give to read all 1899 line by line ??
[02:12] <trif> hit tab again
[02:12] <trif> although I don't think that will do what you really want
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> rr: why are you apologizing to me?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyx: if you want to learn apt-get, just type man apt-get
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyx: if you want to learn the commands, try something like tldp.org
[02:13] <trif> you can most likely find some easy to read tutorials on the web too
[02:13] <trif> sometimes man pages are a bit technical
[02:13] <user-land> my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still ok, what could be the reason the second monitor does not get used anymore suddenly ?
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> user-land: its turned off?
[02:14] <er4z0r> hmm anyone trying handbrake now? ;)
[02:14] <IRCMonkeyx> fyrestrtr: it is so useful for me man -k , i only, if i have any chance to see all 1899 commands explanation line by line
[02:14] <IRCMonkeyx> fyrestrtr: it is so useful for me man -k , i only ask, if i have any chance to see all 1899 commands explanation line by line
[02:14] <user-land> it is on, fyrestrtr, during boot things get displayed there too, then flashes the nvidia logo for half a second, then the second monitor gets dark.
[02:14] <bimberi> josh__: have a look at unison too.  It's a file synchroniser that works over ssh.  runs on linux and windows (amongst others)
[02:15] <PKR_> how do you eject a cd?
[02:15] <user-land> this after i tried booting up with additional harddisks.
[02:15] <trif> irc: you would have to man each individual command
[02:15] <josh__> winscp wont connect either
[02:15] <trif> IRCMonkeyx, I've never seen a big summary list of each command
[02:15] <trif> IRCMonkeyx, there are so many commands you will never need to use ever
[02:16] <PKR_> doesnt the eject button on the cd player work in unbuntu?
[02:16] <trif> pkr_: not until the disc is umounted
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> PKR_: sure, that's a hardware thing.
[02:16] <bimberi> PKR_: it works on my laptop (even if mounted) but not on my desktop :|
[02:16] <IRCMonkeyx> trif: i just discovered it, i read untill d letter, than i am bored of writing man -k  <command> :)
[02:16] <PKR_> ok
[02:17] <PKR_> i had to eject it on the computer
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> user-land: are you using twinview or xnerama?
[02:17] <user-land> fyrestrtr, i don't remember using any of them ...
[02:17] <user-land> how can i check ?
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> josh__: are you sure ports aren't being blocked?
[02:17] <peej> any comments on the strengths and weaknesses of dapper compared with fedora core 5?
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> user-land: it'll be in your xorg.conf file
[02:18] <george_looney> hi fyrestrtr
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> peej: you'll get pretty biased responses here.
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> peej: one weakness ... rpm (imnsho)
[02:18] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: I figured the way to do it :)
[02:18] <bimberi> peej: package/dependency management
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: cool :)
[02:19] <josh__> yeah... it makes an initial connection.... but failed during authentication... freenx said something about pam blah blah... someone else said port blocking but then after i told them it connects he said nevermind...
[02:19] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: "STARTUP=startfluxbox startx" does the trick
[02:19] <josh__> i dont know
[02:19] <Skaag> where can I get help about printing in ubuntu?
[02:19] <user-land> TwinView, fyrestrtr.
[02:19] <josh__> something got really screwed up somewhere...
[02:19] <peej> fyrestrtr: way I see it, dapper is a longterm thing, well-supported. yeah, also the apt-get thing is a better mechanism. THe upgrade with apt tends to be more solid.
[02:19] <bimberi> Skaag: ask here, hopefully someone can help
[02:19] <josh__> i had alot of trouble trying to get it going on breezy too though...
[02:19] <josh__> whats up bimberi
[02:19] <peej> I guess I'm actually fishing for a reason why fc5 might be regarded as better than dapper - can't come up with one. Mebbe I should go to the fedora channel? ;-)
[02:19] <josh__> still in college?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> user-land: okay, and you didn't upgrade nvidia drivers or anything of the sort? What changed between then and now?
[02:20] <bimberi> josh__: not since 1986 no :)
[02:20] <trif> peej: if you're accustomed to redhat style config tools and directory layouts..
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> peej: one is, its more commerically supported.
[02:20] <peej> dunno if fc has clear demarcations of free vs non-free (the reason I like debian/ubuntu)
[02:20] <cocos> is it possible to let gnome-terminal open in maximised window?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> peej: you'll find more vendor support for fc than you would for ubuntu, but that's changing.
[02:21] <Skaag> ok I have a network printer, an OfficeJet 7400. I've set it up correctly, I think, with an ipp:// URL. I can ping the printer ok, and reach its web based information page. Cups shows the printer is ok and "ready", but jobs do not print, they say "printing" forever. Looking at the cups logs shows everything is "fine"... any ideas how to even start debugging this problem?
[02:21] <trif> fedora core is way too big
[02:21] <josh__> bimberi: whazn't it you that was.....
[02:21] <josh__> oh wait
[02:21] <josh__> no that was jenda
[02:21] <josh__> lol
[02:21] <josh__> nevermind
[02:21] <peej> fyrestrtr : commercial support is better for fc ?
[02:21] <josh__> im a tard
[02:21] <bimberi> josh__: hehe ;)
[02:21] <rr> peej : FC5 has fedora directory server, which is a plus imho
[02:21] <user-land> fyrestrtr, i tried changing sources according to the post by hawkwind, but encountered a lot of errors, so i restored the easykubuntu sources and made an update/dist-upgrade.
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> peej: I said *vendor* support
[02:21] <rr> peej : about the only one i can thinkof really
[02:21] <peej> rr: what's fedora directory server ? a ldap type thing?
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> user-land: think it might have borked your nvidia drivers
[02:21] <user-land> could that have changed things ? only 3 kde-components were updated as far as i know.
[02:22] <peej> fyrestrtr : point taken.
[02:22] <ajmitch> peej: yes, and it's horrendous to try & build
[02:22] <djwhyte> Hi, just recently (on the weekend) Update Manager pushed out a new kernel version for my Breezy box, and since then I seem to have had a hard lock up daily.  I am running 2.6.12-10-386, has anyone else noticed this?
[02:22] <frogzoo> cocos_: gnome-terminal --full-screen
[02:22] <rr> anyone know of fedora directory server .deb packages ?
[02:22] <user-land> ok, fyrestrtr, so i should reconfigure x ?
[02:22] <fyrestrtr> user-land: try re-installing the nvidia drivers.
[02:22] <rr> peej : yeah , pretty good un tooo
[02:22] <ajmitch> rr: no, it's very near impossible to build properly & package
[02:22] <josh__> rr... fedora uses .rpms.... not .debs
[02:22] <rr> peej : formally know as ehh , darn
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> rr: since its (now) completely open source, you could download it and compile it if you were so inclined.
[02:23] <alxarch> hi, we want to deploy ubuntu in my university's computer lab can someone help me outwith a couplof questions i have?
[02:23] <ajmitch> rr: well, impossible to do without sitting down for quite awhile & fixing a number of issues
[02:23] <josh__> ust use alien
[02:23] <george_looney> alxarch: shoot
[02:23] <frogzoo> rr: apt-cache search    is your friend
[02:23] <cocos_> frogzoo: works great but not really what i ment i mean maximized but between the 2 panels
[02:23] <frogzoo> josh__: only as a last resort
[02:23] <pygi> !patient
[02:23] <rr> fyrestrtr, cool i have a look around for it
[02:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about patient - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:23] <pygi> !patience
[02:23] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:24] <alxarch> my lab uses Active Directory and all the users (us the students) login through there
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> fyrestrtr: there is a excellent post on twinview in the forums (iirc)
[02:24] <rr> ajmitch : what issues ur havin ?
[02:24] <_stev_> how do I remove a program installed with apt-get?
[02:24] <george_looney> alxarch: is it Windows 2003 or Windows 2000?
[02:24] <alxarch> i found out a howto enableldap etc but i don't know how to make a pre-configured installation to deploy it on to allthe pc's
[02:24] <ajmitch> rr: the fact that it wants specific version of many libraries, and you have to compile half the known world to get that
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> _stev_: use synaptic to remove it, or apt-get remove whatever-package
[02:24] <alxarch> windows 2003
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> is there any way to configure WPA (for wireless networks) during the installation?  it seems to only support WEP
[02:25] <bimberi> _stev_: apt-get remove <package>     (add --purge to remove config files as well)
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: you could try the oem tools, those might help.
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> alternate installation too, I think that might be my problem
[02:25] <rr> ajmitch : bummer, so ur almost forced to use FC/redhat to use FDS ?
[02:25] <ajmitch> rr: at the moment, yes
[02:26] <_stev_> bimberi: ah ok -and it will also remove my .files in my home folder?
[02:26] <alxarch> yes but how do you pack the cd afterwards in order to pass it to all the 30 computers? i haven't found any how to for the OEM
[02:26] <ajmitch> rr: if I have a lot more spare time I'll look at packaging FDS
[02:26] <rr> ajmitch : was it iplanet before ?
[02:26] <bimberi> _stev_: no
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: ah, you need the livecd generator-thing.
[02:26] <ajmitch> rr: netscape directory server
[02:26] <_stev_> bimberi: how do I do that?
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: let me see if I have it.
[02:26] <peej> what's the ubuntu equivalent of fedora directory server then? netscape directory server?
[02:26] <rr> ajmitch : ahh k
[02:26] <RandolphCarter> peej: something like NIS?
[02:26] <ajmitch> peej: we only have openldap
[02:26] <george_looney> rr: it was Netscape Directory Server
[02:27] <frogzoo> peej: ldap maybe ?
[02:27] <alxarch> does this saves all configurations?
[02:27] <bimberi> _stev_: manually (with rm).  or just leave them
[02:27] <peej> is openldap kinda hard and mystical to set up (I have very little clue on ldap)
[02:28] <_stev_> bimberi: ah ok thx
[02:28] <CarinArr> peej, yes
[02:28] <CarinArr> ;)
[02:28] <rr> peej : not really know, but u might have to do some reading about ldap in general
[02:28] <CarinArr> actually, i don't know if it is "relatively"
[02:28] <user-land> great support, fyrestrtr, thank you. it looks like i need to rerun easykubuntu.
[02:28] <CarinArr> i'm just clueless when it comes to stuff like that and i found it a bit.. er.. odd
[02:29] <ardchoille> ajmitch: I have 11 computers and what I did was installed the system on one, updated it, then I used partimage to make an image of that one system, burned that image to DVD.. then used partimage along with the image I burned to install Ubuntu on the other 10 boxes. it worked great and puts an identical system on all the computers.
[02:29] <peej> thanks for all the clues. I have a better idea of things now, and can do further research by reading the fine manuals ;-)
[02:29] <ardchoille> !partimage > ajmitch
[02:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about partimage  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: first, see -- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD - that should get you started, and then -- you can try something a bit different in http://freshmeat.net/projects/gendistcrisol/
[02:29] <ajmitch> ardchoille: not me, alxarch :)
[02:29] <rr> ajmitch : is there anything i can do to speed up the FDS conversion ?
[02:30] <ardchoille> ajmitch: oops, sorry
[02:30] <er4z0r> always the same: what do you folks use for copying your precious dvds?
[02:30] <ajmitch> rr: not that I know of
[02:30] <er4z0r> k3b? dvd::rip?
[02:30] <dyn-afk> ardchoille why not use a network installation server for those 11 machines?
[02:30] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: they aren't entworked
[02:31] <dyn-afk> :P
[02:31] <dyn-afk> null modem cable :D
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> lol
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> give it up dyn-afk
[02:32] <ardchoille> I didn't feel like running cable through a 4 story house, besides the install from an image took about 15 minutes per machine
[02:32] <alxarch> fyrestrtr: yes but i don't want a live cd, i want an installation cd
[02:33] <rr> ajmitch : http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Howto:DebianUbuntu
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: I'm sure there is something out there for it -- I just can't find where I bookmarked it :(
[02:33] <ajmitch> rr: yes, and it just says to use alien
[02:33] <ajmitch> rr: not at all useful for getting into the distro, sadly
[02:33] <rr> ajmitch : yeah alien the pkg's
[02:33] <alxarch> what i want is: configure aps/active directory/ gnome/etc on one machine and then somehow clone the installation on to th other machines
[02:34] <rr> ajmitch : tried that with novell eDir, omg what i mess i got into :-(
[02:34] <ardchoille> alxarch: If the machines aren't networked, partimage will do exactly that
[02:34] <josh__> exit
[02:34] <dyn-afk> ardchoille without a network an image is the best way to do it :P
[02:34] <alxarch> they are networked they all belong to the lab domain
[02:35] <ardchoille> alxarch: Then maybe dyn-afk can teach you how to clone them via network
[02:35] <alxarch> i'm ready to learn....
[02:35] <alxarch> :)
[02:36] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: you're up, lol
[02:36] <dyn-afk> so am I alxarch :P
[02:36] <alxarch> :)
[02:36] <devan> i read that u need to intsall gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's, but in synaptic it isnt there
[02:36] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[02:37] <dyn-afk> the idea is that I'm gonna use my freebsd server as a remote install server
[02:37] <dyn-afk> have to take a look at pxe and such
[02:37] <_stev_> what is the /var/cache/apt/archives? are that all my installed (installation) files? can I delete them?
[02:37] <devan> i read that u need to intsall gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's, but in synaptic it isnt there, can some1 please how me what i should do
[02:38] <alxarch> so how do I setup an install server at my university's lab?
[02:38] <ardchoille> devan: I installed xmms and it played mp3's without any need to install anything else
[02:38] <er4z0r> !extra repositories
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about extra repositories - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:39] <devan> oh ok, can i get xmms in synaptic?
[02:39] <dyn-afk> I think you need something like RARP, TFTP and maybe NFS (if you want to do a full install from that server and not via internet)
[02:39] <ardchoille> !info xmms
[02:39] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[02:39] <ardchoille> devan: yes
[02:39] <dyn-afk> with my sun sparcstation 4 (without cdrom and floppy) I once managed to do somewhat of a network install
[02:39] <axyjo> !info supybot
[02:39] <ubotu> supybot: robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.83.1-1 (dapper), package size 446 kB, installed size 2896 kB
[02:40] <dyn-afk> I used rarp and tftp so the ss4 could boot the debian/openbsd netinstaller
[02:40] <alxarch> hmmm... that isn't much helpful now is it?:)
[02:40] <dyn-afk> with the netinstaller I did an install via internet, not via the network
[02:40] <ardchoille> alxarch: No, it isn't
[02:40] <dyn-afk> openbsd has a manual about how to do that
[02:40] <m_0_r_0_n> Although the adobe reader 7.0 is listet in the plugin list, no pdf document will be opend. I alway get a blank website. Any idea what went wrong?
[02:41] <dyn-afk> openbsd netinstall << look for that and you'll get lot's of results
[02:41] <dyn-afk> those results might aid you in creating a network install server
[02:41] <dyn-afk> also, be sure to take a look at PXE
[02:41] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: But, this is *ubuntu8 support
[02:41] <alxarch> ok i was hoping for sth abit easier....
[02:41] <dyn-afk> machines nowadays use PXE to boot off a network
[02:42] <rambo3> great for non floppy non cd/dvd  computer install
[02:42] <dyn-afk> there are small differences in openbsd, debian, etc. when creating a network install server, there not that big so...those tutorials might be helpful
[02:42] <ardchoille> Funny how so much text can be typed by someone who is "afk"
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: fwiw, SLED has this option built-in
[02:42] <gatekeeper> alxarch: these machines you are trying to clone are they all identical hardware?
[02:42] <dyn-afk> afk = a brand, not just short for away from keyboard :P
[02:42] <alxarch> SLED?
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> a brand of what?
[02:43] <dyn-afk> suse linux enterprise desktop = sled
[02:43] <vipen> Hi, I have a problem with mounting my HDD... I've crashed the xorg.conf file so I've booted Ubuntu from the livecd so I could restore the backup but I can't access my HDD :(
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
[02:43] <dyn-afk> fedora cora also has this ability
[02:43] <dyn-afk> SUSE actually...all caps now
[02:43] <dbzdeath> hey i have a problem with wine sometimes it screws up and i kill the application that is running and then no more apps can be run by wine until i reboot could someone please help me?
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> there is an option right there in the installer to 'clone this system' to do unattended installs.
[02:43] <alxarch> well not al of them but the majority of them
[02:43] <rambo3> too much ot now
[02:43] <dyn-afk> fedora has a special name for it
[02:43] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: Can we keep on topic please?
[02:43] <Botkiller> hi guys, I'm new to ubuntu and have it on my server since today. But ./ doesn't seem to work :S
[02:43] <threat> hey
[02:43] <neutrinomass> vipen: You could fix it without the livecd with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 2. What's the problem with mounting the hdd ?
[02:44] <rr> Fyre : u mean the supudupa "sutoyast" option ?
[02:44] <alxarch> so u suggest to install suse instead of ubuntu?
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> dbzdeath: best you ask in #winehq
[02:44] <rr> "autoyast" even
[02:44] <dyn-afk> mind you ardchoille that this is basic stuff for every distribution
[02:44] <threat> is there c/c++ devel package I can install that installs compilers, and manpages for std c functions?
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> rr: don't know what its called, but I just remembered it was there.
[02:44] <dyn-afk> it doesn't matter which one you have ;)
[02:44] <neutrinomass> threat: 'aptitude install build-essential' ?
[02:44] <vipen> Okay..... It says
[02:44] <vipen> error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[02:44] <vipen> error: could not execute pmount
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> threat: sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:45] <threat> neutrinomass, oh, I have that installed already :\
[02:45] <profoX`> how do i remove the auto focus on message, in gaim?
[02:45] <lars> dbzdeath: ps aux |grep wine says?
[02:45] <dyn-afk> ah, fedora calls it stateless linux..if you look for that you'll also find plenty of resources for creating a network installation server
[02:45] <devan> ardcholie,hey installing xmms didnt work, i still cant play mp3's
[02:45] <dyn-afk> profoX` take a look at your gaim prefs :)
[02:45] <alxarch> so to resumeit all: i install ubuntu on one machine and then i use the suse installation disk to clone that machine all over the place? that sounds awkward....
[02:45] <neutrinomass> vipen: Hm... not sure what's wrong. ..you can still boot from the hard disk can't you ?
[02:46] <profoX`> dyn-afk: i did.. didn't find it really ._. i'll check again, is it in there?
[02:46] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell devan about mp3
[02:46] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: I meant to say, maybe ubuntu isn't the right distro for it.
[02:46] <threat> neutrinomass, hmmm, I just looked at the package-list for build-essential,  it doesn't install any dev's or manpages for C functions,  any other ideas?
[02:46] <dyn-afk> yup, it's there profoX`
[02:46] <alxarch> aH! ok...
[02:46] <MusicEatingPanda> I just got notice that Firefox is to be updated by my notifyer....it wants to install 1.0.8 when i have 1.5 installed what do i do?
[02:46] <vipen> neutrinomass: No... It comes with some sort of errorpage...
[02:46] <threat> lars, grep -i wine probably
[02:47] <Botkiller> excuse me for asking, but maybe someone can help me with the following : I'm trying to install a cs server on my dedicated server with ubuntu 64 on it. But with multiple apps ./ doesn't work, i get -bash: ./steam : no such file or directory. But the steam exec is in that dir
[02:47] <dyn-afk> fyrestrtr ubuntu can do the same...all distro's can
[02:47] <devan> neutrinomass, it says i should isntall gstremer0.8-mad for mp3's to work but it isnt in synaptic
[02:47] <alxarch> yes but HOW?
[02:47] <Hexidigital> !universe > devan
[02:48] <dyn-afk> if you want to create an image do what ardchoille did
[02:48] <neutrinomass> vipen: What error? If all you messed up was xorg.conf, it should still be bootable. If it isn't, deeper issues are involved ...
[02:48] <Botkiller> can anyone help? can't find the solution via google :S
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: but how easy is it? That's what it comes down to, doesn't it?
[02:48] <dyn-afk> I think that if you want to use the image way via a network you need to look into something as NFS to share the image
[02:48] <threat> manpages-posix-dev ??
[02:48] <threat> would that be it?
[02:49] <neutrinomass> threat: Yeah, probably.
[02:49] <ardchoille> Botkiller: What is the exact filename of the steam exec?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: I'm not aware of any unattended install options that come with ubuntu
[02:49] <gatekeeper> alxarch: if you know which files are required to configure what you need, you could use tar
[02:49] <dyn-afk> www.instalinux.org would be a great site for you fyrestrtr
[02:49] <Botkiller> ardchoille : just steam
[02:49] <vipen> neutrinomass: Something with X if I rembember right... And the it boots in something like CMD (windows)
[02:49] <neutrinomass> thread: I can't tell for sure, I'm on a crippled system right now :( But I don't remember explicitly installing that, and I still had the man pages (I guess they come as part of the libc documentation.... )
[02:49] <ardchoille> Botkiller: is it steam or Steam?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: I'm not the one trying to deploy it, but thanks for caring :)
[02:49] <Botkiller> just steam, all lower case
[02:50] <threat> neutrinomass, :\
[02:50] <dyn-afk> online unattended install creator for nearly all distro's :P
[02:50] <alxarch> no there are hundreds of files all over the system, can't do that
[02:50] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Then you may not be inside the correct directory
[02:50] <threat> neutrinomass, my name is threat :)
[02:50] <threat> neutrinomass, although alot of people make that mistake, I may as well just add thread to my highlight list :)
[02:50] <Botkiller> ardchoille : yes I am, I downloaded it to /home/mike/steam and when i ls it shows in there
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> Botkiller: make sure its executable
[02:50] <neutrinomass> vipen: Oh, but it still boots then. Try logging in from the terminal, and do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. That will probably fix it....
[02:51] <profoX`> thank dyn-afk :)
[02:51] <Botkiller> it has always been an exec :s how can I make sure?
[02:51] <profoX`> for the gaim.. help
[02:51] <dyn-afk> http://www.instalinux.com/ << the correct link, it's not .org :P
[02:51] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Can you do: ls -lha /home/mike/steam and post the output to pastebin?
[02:51] <vipen> neutrinomass: Okay... Hope it works, and thanks for the help
[02:51] <Botkiller> sure, moment plz
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> Botkiller: ls -l -- check the permissions
[02:51] <neutrinomass> threat: Yeah sorry. Just a moment - I'll look up the documentation thing ...
[02:52] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: That's what I was gonna do :P
[02:52] <dyn-afk> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Network-Install-HOWTO.html << this also might give you some idea on how to setup a network install server
[02:52] <neutrinomass> threat: glibc-doc ? I'm not sure about dapper though, this is on breezy....
[02:52] <alxarch> so i'll keep on searching... but if suse can do it easilly i'll have to use that instead
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> threat: most docs are already there, what do you need, a tutorial?
[02:53] <alxarch> but i thought that the OEM install mode was made to serve dployment purposes
[02:53] <Botkiller> ardchoille : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18861
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: I think it takes care of customization, but not deployment.
[02:53] <neutrinomass> fyrestrtr : He wants the manpages for libc functions from what I understood.... which should be there in the first place as you pointed out :-/ Unless it's an expert install probably ...
[02:53] <NthDegree> OEM is for Retailers to preinstall ubuntu so the user can set it up his/her way on first boot
[02:53] <alxarch> and i can't find any examples or howto's in th help pages of ubuntu
[02:53] <dyn-afk> oem install mode does the same thing alxarch: you need to create an image
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> neutrinomass: I think even with the expert install, they should still be there.
[02:54] <quiet> alxarch, OEM install would be if you were building a computer for someone... you can set it up, customize it, install all updates, any extra software, then run the OEM utility and will erase all user history... upon the next boot it will set up a new user name and such...
[02:54] <dyn-afk> if you know Windows you can compare it to installing a system dan use sysprep and afterwards you create an image
[02:54] <alxarch> yes but retailers aren't going to install the extra packages on every machine indepentantly
[02:54] <quiet> alxarch, it's similar to SYSPREP for windows.
[02:54] <dyn-afk> that's what the oem install does
[02:54] <threat> neutrinomass, thanx, I am getting libc-doc now
[02:54] <threat> fyrestrtr, I need to man strftime()  and other such C functions
[02:54] <neutrinomass> fyrestrtr : An expert server install didn't even install 'man' on this box, but this is with 5.04 :-/
[02:55] <threat> fyrestrtr, I program in C/C++, well I try to :P
[02:55] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Is that the only output you got from  ls -lha /home/mike/steam ?
[02:55] <alxarch> howyes but how do i make this image on ubuntu?
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> neutrinomass: geez :(
[02:55] <dyn-afk> the oem function is in between the use of an unattended install and on image
[02:55] <quiet> OEM + Symantec Ghost alxarch
[02:55] <_stev_> how do I get my total used size of all partions together?
[02:55] <dyn-afk> it personalises the image
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> threat: try sudo apt-get install gcc-doc
[02:55] <Botkiller> yes, only one file in the dir, as it should be before installation :)
[02:55] <user-land> hello fyrestrtr, my system is borked ... i am on the livecd would like to mount the former root partition to move the /home dir to a new partition, but it does not mount in nautilus, saying not removable, could not execute pmount.
[02:55] <alxarch> so i' ll use ghost?
[02:55] <quiet> alxarch, if you have it, you can use ghost, yes.
[02:56] <dyn-afk> alxarch you can use any image creator from symantec/norton, acronis, etc.
[02:56] <Whatsisname> _stev_, you could probably write a simple perl script to calculate that
[02:56] <dyn-afk> though trueimage is a bit more picky then ghost
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> user-land: what does the disk manager tell you?
[02:56] <alxarch> but how am i going to be sure it does dual booting etc properly for every machine?
[02:56] <jipi> hey
[02:56] <Smjor> _stev_, cant you use "df -m"?
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> _stev_: disk manager should tell you that
[02:56] <quiet> alxarch, testing.
[02:56] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Yes, but ls -lha should have shown you the filename at the end, not the directory path ;)
[02:56] <jipi> how wouldi i got about running ssh on this computer, so i can acsess it from a windows ssh shell program?
[02:56] <alxarch> u seethe pc's also have windows on them....
[02:56] <dyn-afk> alxarch you restore the image on a machine
[02:56] <dyn-afk> then reboot it
[02:57] <quiet> ^^
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> jipi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:57] <jipi> thanks man
[02:57] <dyn-afk> the oem installer will start again and it'll ask you the same setup questions
[02:57] <dyn-afk> it's just a quicker way of setting up a machine
[02:57] <quiet> dyn-afk, if you're doing company deployment... you don't need to use OEM, really.
[02:57] <Botkiller> ardchoille : mad a mistake, it's still in /home/mike (just checked if that was the prob, but still same error)
[02:57] <Botkiller> made*
[02:57] <dyn-afk> nah, you're prolly better off using an unattended network installation using a network install server quiet
[02:58] <minimec> jipi: Read the man-page of the openssh-server ;) There you have the explanations to create the keys ;)
[02:58] <dyn-afk> but if the machines are identical then oem install might do
[02:58] <quiet> exactly.
[02:58] <ardchoille> Botkiller: so ./steam from the home dir should work
[02:58] <Botkiller> no it doesn't
[02:58] <Whatsisname> you know, anyone happen to have a link handy to any info about how to customize the default configuations of the LiveCD's?
[02:58] <Whatsisname> like to make a custom LiveCD for a specific purpose
[02:58] <dyn-afk> looking at management of images and such, unattended installations are much better
[02:58] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Then it's not set to be executable, that's my guess
[02:58] <Jenkins> Does anybody know if Ubuntu 6.06 LTS supports drivers for Wireless Cards by Broadcom?
[02:59] <dyn-afk> unattended install is far easier to manage
[02:59] <Botkiller> how can I set it to executable than? :S
[02:59] <quiet> Jenkins, it comes with ndiswrapper, and it works well.
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> Whatsisname: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD
[02:59] <Whatsisname> Botkiller, run chmod +x filename
[02:59] <ardchoille> Botkiller: chmod u+x filename
[02:59] <Jenkins> how would one use ndiswrapper to install the drivers?
[02:59] <quiet> Jenkins, it uses the windows .inf and .sys
[02:59] <ardchoille> Gotta go, bbiab
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> !broadcom > Jenkins
[02:59] <quiet> Jenkins, i have a broadcom 4318
[02:59] <dyn-afk> install  ndiswrapper and use the graphical tool
[02:59] <Smjor> Whatsisname :
 neutrinomass, althou
[02:59] <dyn-afk> make sure you have the drivers unpacked
[02:59] <Smjor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[02:59] <Whatsisname> fyrestrtr, that page really doesn't have much info lol
[02:59] <Whatsisname> oh well
[03:00] <quiet> Jenkins, apt-get install ndiswrapper ndiswrapper-utils && ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf && modprobe ndiswrapper.
[03:00] <quiet> boom, works.
[03:00] <dyn-afk> then browse for the .inf file with the graphical ndiswrapper tool
[03:00] <Botkiller> ardchoille : you're never gonna believe this - still doesn't work
[03:00] <quiet> there is a graphical ndiswrapper tool?
[03:00] <quiet> ew.
[03:00] <quiet> why?
[03:00] <dyn-afk> yup
[03:00] <Jenkins> im a newbie to Linux lol
[03:00] <dyn-afk> to make things easier :P
[03:00] <Smjor> Whatsisname --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[03:00] <quiet> makes sense, i 'spose.
[03:00] <dyn-afk> System > Administration > Windows Wireless Drivers
[03:00] <Whatsisname> hmm
[03:01] <Whatsisname> that only applies to 5.10 it says
[03:01] <dyn-afk> once you installed ndiswrapper in synaptics, you'll get that tool
[03:01] <minimec> Jenkins: there is a package ndiswrapper-tools (probalby you have to activate uni- and multiverse)
[03:01] <Whatsisname> isn't the 6.06 live and install cd one and the same now
[03:01] <dyn-afk> activating universe and multiverse is a good idea anyway
[03:01] <Whatsisname> i would expect changing livecd settings would be similar to the unattended installation sorta setup
[03:01] <Smjor> *err* my mistake
[03:01] <quiet> no, it's ndiswrapper-utils  not -tools
[03:02] <Terminus> meh, i replicated a debian install with cp -a. works fine. :)
[03:02] <minimec> dyn-afk: I can agree with you ...
[03:02] <Whatsisname> Terminus, needs more cp -ax
[03:02] <_stev_> Whatsisname: ah ok , df -h doesn't give me the total used off all partitions, I just thought that there was an option that slipped my mind
[03:02] <Botkiller> is there also another command to run executables with?
[03:02] <Whatsisname> _stev_, I don't think there is
[03:02] <Jenkins> Ok, well first let me install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop then i'll try to figure out the wireless issue
[03:02] <Whatsisname> you'll have to write a script i think
[03:02] <Smjor> Whatsisname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e10
[03:02] <Botkiller> :/
[03:02] <quiet> actually.. alxarch... if all you're wanting to do is duplicate the hard drive...  dd would work..  if the systems are the same.
[03:02] <threat> Smjor, huh?
[03:02] <Whatsisname> Botkiller, different kinds of executables are run with different s
[03:02] <Whatsisname> stuff
[03:02] <alxarch> dd?
[03:02] <quiet> i did that for 20 identical HP workstations.
[03:03] <Terminus> Whatsisname: i did it a different way, i recreated all the mount points first. that way, i didn't need -x. :)
[03:03] <dyn-afk> dd = diskdump
[03:03] <dyn-afk> it's like ghost's 1-on-1 diskcopy
[03:03] <Botkiller> well, on red hat and fedore ./steam worked perfectly, but on ubuntu it does not, while I do the same order :S
[03:03] <quiet> dd if=/dev/hda of=/some/network/share/disk.img
[03:03] <quiet> then boot a live cd on the system tobe imaged..   dd if=/some/network/share/disk.img of=/dev/hda
[03:03] <alxarch> and how do i put it on the new machine aftrwards?
[03:04] <quiet> it will do an EXACT copy
[03:04] <Whatsisname> Smjor, that looks like the info I was looking for, thank you
[03:04] <alxarch> easy
[03:04] <quiet> it is.
[03:04] <quiet> but
[03:04] <quiet> the machine needs to be exactly the same
[03:04] <minimec> Jenkins: /part
[03:04] <quiet> if nothing else, exactly the same hard drive size MIGHT work.
[03:04] <quiet> never tried that though.
[03:05] <alxarch> the machines will be the same
[03:05] <Smjor> Whatsisname, you're welcome!
[03:05] <alxarch> i am not sure about the partition sizes though
[03:05] <n2ob> what's the command to rewrite grub to mbr
[03:05] <Whatsisname> when doing a dd transfer
[03:05] <Whatsisname> the partition sizes have to be exactly the same
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> n2ob: grub-install
[03:05] <Whatsisname> otherwise Bad Things can and will happen
[03:05] <quiet> Whatsisname, they WILL be exactly the same
[03:05] <quiet> lol
[03:05] <n2ob> fyrestrtr, thankyou
[03:05] <quiet> if you use dd...
[03:06] <quiet> it will rewrite the partition table.
[03:06] <Whatsisname> not necessarily
[03:06] <quiet> so, if you are dual booting windows... you should run sysprep on windows before you dd with linux
[03:06] <alxarch> so since i am going to be the one who's going to formthow do i make the partitions EXACTLY sam size?
[03:06] <Whatsisname> if you do a dd on a partition
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: man, just use ghost
[03:06] <Botkiller> can there be anything else the problem? with ./steam shit
[03:06] <quiet> i didn't say dd on the partition.
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: you are over engineering the problem.
[03:06] <quiet> i said dd on hda
[03:07] <Jenkins> quiet did you get my message?
[03:07] <quiet> alxarch, dd hda1 will just do that partition... (need to make partitions exactly the same size)   dd on hda with make an image of the disk itself.
[03:07] <quiet> Jenkins, i don't believe so?
[03:07] <Jenkins> hmmm i dont know how to tell if it is working lol
[03:08] <perry_> when I try to start bittorrent, it asks me for the location of the metafile
[03:08] <Jenkins> ah, says PM's from unregistered users are not allowed
[03:08] <Jenkins> due to spam issues
[03:08] <elkbuntu> how can i re-enable formatting in thunderbird after enigmail has disabled it?
[03:08] <Botkiller> ardchoille?
[03:08] <perry_> where is this metafile?
[03:09] <alxarch> so: i install windows, then i install linux and then i do dd
[03:09] <quiet> first run sysprep on windows.
[03:09] <quiet> you need sysprep to regen the security IDs for windows..
[03:09] <alxarch> what for?
[03:09] <quiet> else it causes network problems.
[03:10] <perry_> when I try to start bittorrent, it asks me for the location of the metafile...where do I find it?
[03:10] <mjr> perry_, the .torrent file is the metafile
[03:10] <rambo3> prollu Desktop
[03:10] <Socrate_academy> does ubuntu server have a visual desktop enviroment?
[03:10] <alxarch> this sysrep thing confuses me
[03:10] <quiet> Socrate_academy, not by default
[03:10] <MatthewV> Socrate_academy, not on default install
[03:10] <Ramunas> how do i change my mysql password?
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> Socrate_academy: no, but you can install one.
[03:10] <elkbuntu> Socrate_academy, no, but yout can install one
[03:10] <Whatsisname> Socrate_academy, not by default
[03:10] <stefg> !torrent > perry_
[03:11] <quiet> Socrate_academy, but it can be turned into ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu with a single command.
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> Ramunas: #mysql
[03:11] <Socrate_academy> tnks for the quick response :p
[03:11] <perry_> thanks steg
[03:11] <oskude> Socrate_academy: x window system is mostly not wanted on servers...
[03:11] <lens_> all of the sudden my Dapper install is running pretty sluggish... what can I do?
[03:11] <perry_> stefg rather :P
[03:11] <Smjor> alxarch, sysprep is used to "seal" windows-systems
[03:11] <Socrate_academy> quiet: how can i do that?
[03:11] <quiet> Socrate_academy, apt-get install [ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu] -desktop
[03:11] <alxarch> seal thm from what viruses? hahahhahaha
[03:11] <Whatsisname> lens_, too little info provided :(
[03:11] <perry_> brb
[03:11] <Smjor> hehe
[03:11] <Socrate_academy> going to try that :p brb with an answe :D
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: seal it for a new person to boot it up.
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: or for deployment
[03:12] <oskude> lens: you could see in terminal with "ps aux" if there are processes taking up the whole cpu...
[03:12] <Smjor> alxarch, its basically an OEM-tool
[03:12] <Smjor> not something end-users come in contact with
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> I think you have to install a reskit just to get it, iirc.
[03:13] <lens_> Whatsisname well, when I press buttons, it's about a 5 second delay before they actually press in... I saw a Kubuntu program to clean junk files... would it be OK to run in Gnome?
[03:13] <fyrestrtr> lens_: how much ram do you have, and how much free disk space?
[03:13] <Whatsisname> it would probably be ok to run but it probably wouldn't do anything useful
[03:13] <Whatsisname> lens_: fire up a terminal, run the comnand
[03:13] <Whatsisname> top
[03:14] <alxarch> ok so once more the procedure: i install windows on hda1,i configure it, i sysrep it, then i install linux on hda2, i configure it, then i dd hda and sav it on a network drive and with the live cd i go around the pc's and dd the hda image on to the other(identical) ps's right?
[03:14] <Whatsisname> see if anything strange is eating too much cpu
[03:14] <oskude> lens_: files on the hd are not supposed to make a system slower (atleast not in ubuntu)
[03:14] <lens_> I only have 15 gigs free... that must be it, how do I find the big files on my system?
[03:15] <Socrate_academy> quiet: i get an error message saying: "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop" :s
[03:15] <oskude> lens_: lol, only 15g, my whole hd is 20gb and i got dualboot. as i said files on hd DONT make system slower...
[03:15] <Smjor> alxarch, yes. when you have installed windows, press "ctrl+shift+F3" to bypass OEM deal. Modify windows, sysprep will be running on the desktop (self-explainatory).
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> Socrate_academy: have you updated apt?
[03:15] <quiet> umm...i thoguht that was it.. try apt-cache search desktop
[03:15] <Socrate_academy> brb
[03:15] <Whatsisname> 15 gig free is plenty
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> !info ubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.119 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:15] <Whatsisname> most of the time I'd be lucky to have 2-3 gig free out of 500
[03:15] <vipen> neutrinomass: It worked... I can boot from my HDD now... Thanks
[03:16] <Smjor> alxarch, I mean, to bypass EULA.
[03:16] <alxarch> a ok
[03:16] <dyn-afk> alxarch make sure you run sysprep and absolutely do not boot into windows anymore once you've run it !
[03:16] <dyn-afk> because if you do sysprep will rerun a small portion of the windows installation
[03:16] <lens_> oskude... oh well 15 out of 70... hrm... ok, so that's pry not it... but what would cause a delay I have a gig of memory I believe.
[03:16] <dyn-afk> it'll ask for things like computername, domain, etc.
[03:16] <Whatsisname> quiet, ubuntu-desktop is corret
[03:16] <Smjor> dyn-afk, he can boot into it multiple times, as long as he seals it when done, can't he?
[03:17] <quiet> wee
[03:17] <alxarch> so i bypass the eula on the first blue screens (sic) of the windows installation?
[03:17] <Smjor> alxarch, yes!
[03:17] <dyn-afk> no Smjor
[03:17] <Whatsisname> he must have somehow mistyped it or something
[03:17] <alxarch> ?
[03:17] <dyn-afk> you install sysprep, run it, shutdown windows and finally create the image
[03:17] <Socrate_academy> quiet i got a list of like 8 packages
[03:17] <oskude> lens_: run the command "top" in terminal and see if some process is using all of the cpu (or add system monitor to the gnome panel, to see cpu usage all the time)
[03:17] <Socrate_academy> :|
[03:17] <dyn-afk> if you reboot instead of shutdown you'll have to start from scratch
[03:17] <alxarch> y/n? :S
[03:17] <Smjor> alxarch, ok, what dyn-afk is saying is, that you can only bypass onece, and reseal once.
[03:17] <Whatsisname> lens run top like I said
[03:18] <quiet> Socrate_academy, apt-get update    you did that, correct?
[03:18] <lens_> oskude, sounds like a good start. :)
[03:18] <dyn-afk> meaning: install windows, update, etc. etc. etc.
[03:18] <damo22> do i need Xgl to be able to launch truely transparent windows?
[03:18] <oskude> lens_: i could think "updatedb" is running in background, or so...
[03:18] <dyn-afk> take a look at the sysprep documentation
[03:18] <s_spiff> anyone tried installing wine on dapper amd64?
[03:18] <dyn-afk> there you'll find the same info
[03:18] <Socrate_academy> quiet i dont have a i-net connection on tha pc
[03:18] <lens_> ok, I'll do the top thing and I'll use the applet
[03:18] <alxarch> but a lot of updates and program installations on windows require reboot....
[03:18] <Whatsisname> damo22, if something was truely transparent it would be invisibe
[03:18] <quiet> Socrate_academy, then how the HELL were you going to install ubuntu desktop??
[03:18] <dyn-afk> damo22 yes you need xgl+compiz for true transparancy
[03:18] <Whatsisname> ;)
[03:18] <Smjor> dyn-afk, are you a windoze sysadmin or something.-p
[03:19] <alxarch> lol
[03:19] <Socrate_academy> quiet i have a cd
[03:19] <dyn-afk> I'm a sysadmin, just graduated :P
[03:19] <dyn-afk> but I ran into problems
[03:19] <quiet> you have what cd?
[03:19] <Smjor> congrats!
[03:19] <oskude> lens_: the applet only shows the cpu usage, not the processes using it, but top does
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: the idea is, you run sysprep after the system is setup the way you want.
[03:19] <quiet> ubuntu server?
[03:19] <dyn-afk> I foudn out the hardware why you need to run sysprep :P
[03:19] <quiet> that doesn't have ubuntu-desktop on it.
[03:19] <dyn-afk> *hardway
[03:19] <alxarch> ok
[03:19] <damo22> dyn-afk i followed the wiki on xgl and im using beerorkid sources, but my x server crashes
[03:19] <lens_> K thanks, I'm working on it.
[03:19] <damo22> im using fglrx
[03:20] <Smjor> alxarch, integrate the updates you need (KB8blabla, SP2 etc) on the install cd.
[03:20] <Socrate_academy> quiet i've burned this iso imaged ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[03:20] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: noob
[03:20] <alxarch> nlite?
[03:20] <dyn-afk> if you run a windows domain server you can only join a security/machine ID once
[03:20] <fyrestrtr> :P
[03:20] <quiet> Socrate_academy, you have no ubuntu-desktop then.
[03:20] <Smjor> alxarch, yes, i.e.
[03:20] <Socrate_academy> goddamit
[03:20] <quiet> ^
[03:20] <dyn-afk> so if you use ghost and you need to join 2 of those machines into a domain server and they all have the same machine/securityid things go mad :P
[03:20] <quiet> whatare you going to with linux without an 'inet connection anyways?
[03:20] <quiet> lol
[03:21] <vipen> I have some problems with enabling widescreen on my laptop... I've just tried to fix it myself, but it just crashed my com instead :( I have an Intel 82852/82855 graphics adapter.... Anybody able to help me?
[03:21] <Smjor> dyn-afk, tried that once:-)
[03:21] <alxarch> ok i'll check it out tomorrow.
[03:21] <dyn-afk> in the end, I had to reinstall every machine
[03:21] <quiet> ^ yep
[03:21] <quiet> been there.
[03:21] <dyn-afk> just 12 machines...
[03:21] <damo22> dyn-afk: can any wm run with xgl+compiz? eg wmii
[03:21] <quiet> dyn-afk, well actually
[03:21] <cga> !avidemux
[03:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:21] <Whatsisname> quiet, theres many things you could do with linux with no internet
[03:21] <quiet> you can run sysprep after the image
[03:21] <dyn-afk> luckely it wasn't in a real life situation
[03:21] <quiet> it's just dumb.
[03:21] <cga> !avi
[03:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:21] <dyn-afk> those machine were for a crashcourse in Citrix
[03:21] <quiet> Whatsisname, i know..i was being facetious.
[03:22] <dyn-afk> damo22 I don't know about that
[03:22] <dyn-afk> I only use gnome and I haven't looked at other wm's
[03:22] <Smjor> damo22, isn't xgl/compiz wm-independent?
[03:22] <dyn-afk> quiet the sysprep documentation tells you not to
[03:22] <dyn-afk> things just screw up if you do
[03:22] <alxarch> i'll have to check with the lab's staff to see how do they replicate the windows installations
[03:23] <quiet> dyn-afk, yeah... it's not very good..  but i have made it work when necessary.
[03:23] <dyn-afk> the proper way of doing it: install sysprep, run it, shutdown the computer completely, create the image
[03:23] <quiet> yes.
[03:23] <damo22> smjor, probably... i need to get xgl working without crashing
[03:23] <alxarch> and if they are using diskimages i'll just hold them until i configure the linux on the mother-disk
[03:23] <dyn-afk> if you don't you'll get the same weird problems if you just simply don't use sysprep :P
[03:24] <Smjor> damo22, XGL/compiz talks directly to X, has its "own " wm-thingy in gnome at least. Disables metacity here..
[03:24] <dyn-afk> isn't that just compiz smjor?
[03:24] <damo22> smjor, i just want to use xgl i think, i dont even want compiz, just the ability to launch transparent urxvts
[03:24] <alxarch> so sysrep is th like m$oft saying: i won't let you install preconfigured windows with the same cd-key on mutiple machines?
[03:25] <Smjor> Hmm, you might be right. I don't understand why anyone wants it anyway---
[03:25] <quiet> damo22, you can do fake transparency with urxvt
[03:25] <Smjor> damo22, yep, thats easier.
[03:25] <n2ob> does anyone know good sites for start to learn about network (linux)?
[03:25] <Smjor> look at elive i.e.
[03:26] <Smjor> elive has fake transparency in urxvt
[03:26] <dyn-afk> no alxarch
[03:26] <XplOzIon> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release <-- any other repo i can use as i need to set up a server and i need apache and some other stuff
[03:26] <dyn-afk> it's like useraccounts...every account has a unique number
[03:26] <damo22> quiet: i compiled rxvt-unicode from cvs, but when i run urxvt -tr i get fully transparent, but id like % opaque
[03:26] <dyn-afk> so does every machineaccount
[03:26] <cavediver> Hi. What's the way to remove the annoying frame going across the screen when opening a program from the top-bar.
[03:26] <stefg> !easysource
[03:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:26] <alxarch> Smjor: yr nick sounds like "Es mejor" in spanish....(totally irrelevant)
[03:26] <cavediver> If you have it as a button.
[03:26] <quiet> damo22, use shade.
[03:27] <XplOzIon> thanks stefg
[03:27] <dyn-afk> you'll only run into trouble when you're using something like a domain or when you're going to share files over a network
[03:27] <cavediver> i know it can be removes, can't figure out how I did it though
[03:27] <alxarch> but i am
[03:27] <dyn-afk> because there are more computers with the same "unique" number
[03:27] <dyn-afk> if it's the same, it isn't unique anymore
[03:27] <Smjor> alxarch, hehe, doesn't mean nothing remotely like that in norwegian:-)
[03:27] <alxarch> so i have to sysrep in order for the domain to work properly
[03:27] <Jenkins> this Linux business is givin me a headache.. just getting it to install is a task lol
[03:27] <dyn-afk> in case of a domain it's done because of the security of the domain
[03:27] <vipen> I have some problems with enabling widescreen on my laptop... I've just tried to fix it myself, but it just crashed my com instead :( I have an Intel 82852/82855 graphics adapter.... Anybody able to help me?
[03:28] <alxarch> Smjor: Es mejor= It is better
[03:28] <dyn-afk> so it's not because of things like WGA
[03:28] <oskude> Jenkins: dualboot ?
[03:28] <Jenkins> yes Dualboot
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> vipen: tried 915resolution ?
[03:28] <oskude> Jenkins: well, for dualboot you need more knowledge...
[03:28] <Jenkins> WinXP and Ubuntu 6.06
[03:28] <Jenkins> I'm not familiar with Linux at ALL lol
[03:28] <vipen> fyrestrtr: What do you mean? I'm quite new Linux-user...
[03:28] <Jenkins> Windows XP on the other hand.. lol
[03:29] <oskude> Jenkins: are you familiar with partitions ?
[03:29] <Jenkins> yes i am familiar with partitions
[03:29] <damo22> quiet: do i use -tr with -sh 50% or something
[03:29] <Jenkins> i just didnt know this install needed 3 for itself
[03:29] <Smjor> Jenkins, use Partition Magic before you install
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> vipen: there is a package called 915resolution that helps with resolution issues on intel based video cards. Also, see !fixres
[03:29] <Jenkins> i use the Partitioning software on the CD
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> !fixres
[03:29] <quiet> damo22, something like that... the man page should tell you. i don't use transparency.
[03:29] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to intall frostwire
[03:29] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:29] <Jenkins> that came with Ubuntu
[03:29] <cavediver> Noone have the fix for that ?
[03:29] <vipen> fyrestrtr: Okay, I'll take a look at that ;)
[03:29] <alxarch> but i found it strange that i didn't find a howto or sth on that, i think it's a very common situation for universities, offices etc.
[03:29] <Smjor> Jenkins, it only needs two. / and /swap
[03:29] <s_spiff> anyone knows how to edit the fstab so that a master hdd [ 80gb ]  [ubuntu installed on 120 slave hdd ]  is mounted at boot? i cannot find anything on it in wiki
[03:29] <cavediver> It can't be just me that wants it disablked
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> the first / is ext3
[03:30] <oskude> Jenkins: you need minimum only 2 partitions... as Smjor said..
[03:30] <Jenkins> hmmm
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> SuperMiguel: download the deb, the sudo dpkg -i Froswire-blahlbal.deb -- then make sure you install Java (see !java) and you run it.
[03:30] <Jenkins> i thought it needed one for swap, /, and ext3
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> nope
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> just 2
[03:30] <Jenkins> k
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> the other one is the windows
[03:30] <Smjor> Jenkins ext3 is the file system on /
[03:30] <oskude> Jenkins: ext3 is a format, like fat32 and ntfs
[03:30] <Jenkins> welp i have 4 total partitions now i think lol
[03:30] <Jenkins> 3 for this linux install and 1 windows
[03:31] <SuperMiguel> thats fine
 i just didnt know this install needed 3 for itself << you need only 1 (the /), swap is recommended however, in that case you'll need 2
[03:31] <oskude> Jenkins: is that one partition extended partition ? do you know what that is ?
[03:31] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install frostwire??
[03:31] <dyn-afk> problem with x86 is de limitation in primary partitions
[03:31] <Smjor> Jenkins, dyn-afk is right, /swap is not *really* necessary
[03:31] <dyn-afk> you can only have 4 of those
[03:31] <Jenkins> i have all them as primary
[03:31] <s_spiff> guys how do i extract .rar files?
[03:32] <quiet> SuperMiguel, what the eff is frostwire?
[03:32] <Jenkins> im about to just say forget it and get rid of all my partitions and put NTFS
[03:32] <dyn-afk> a logical drive (as DOS/Windows calls it) is also a primary partition
[03:32] <Jenkins> i think the installer froze anyways lol
[03:32] <Smjor> "/swap" is like the sidefile in windows
[03:32] <dyn-afk> everything in that logical drive isn't
[03:32] <argunda> anyone here know where trash folder is in xubuntu?
[03:32] <jake> hi everyone anyone know how to set file permissions on ububtu
[03:32] <linus001> just make an extended partition, then add a swap inside it.
[03:32] <dyn-afk> in a logical drive you can have as many partitions as you want :)
[03:33] <oskude> jake: chmod
[03:33] <Smjor> argunda, try ~/.Trash
[03:33] <argunda> k
[03:33] <_stev_> my login screen won't come up anymore after a installed another window manager, it is just that after giving my login and psswd, I stiil have to give my startx command to get Xup and running
[03:33] <dyn-afk> linus001 you mean swap as a file ?
[03:33] <Jenkins> ok let me redo this whole ubuntu install
[03:33] <quiet> dyn-afk, but logical drives still require at leastone primary
[03:33] <Jenkins> reboting now
[03:33] <Jenkins> rebooting*
[03:33] <dyn-afk> jup
[03:33] <jake> what like chmod 777 or 755?
[03:33] <CarinArr> _stev_, what window manager did you install?
[03:33] <bilss_> hi folks
[03:33] <oskude> Jenkins: i hope youre not trying to resize any ntfs partitions...
[03:33] <dyn-afk> a logical drive is a primary partition, so that leaves 3
[03:33] <_stev_> CarinArr: ion3
[03:34] <Jenkins> no, i have my NTFS all alone with half of my HDD with unallocated space
[03:34] <linus001> no
[03:34] <cga> anyone here knows which repo should i use (if any) to install avidemux?
[03:34] <oskude> Jenkins: ok, sounds good
[03:34] <CarinArr> jake, that changes permissions for files.. try man chmod
[03:34] <Smjor> Jenkins, good, cause resizing NTFS in *nix is fishy
[03:34] <quiet> cga, aptitude search avidemux ?
[03:34] <Jenkins> resizing any NTFS partition w/o corrupting windows is a task lol
[03:34] <dyn-afk> cga: I don't know which one but it is always a good idea to enable the universe and multiverse repos
[03:35] <CarinArr> _stev_, do you get a graphical login prompt (i.e. gdm) or do you get a console one?
[03:35] <dyn-afk> since a lot of programs people want are in those 2 repos
[03:35] <Jenkins> i don't know a damn thing about linux lol thats why im here for assistance
[03:35] <bilss_> got a pipe command question take a look here http://pastebin.ca/99591
[03:35] <cga> quiet, i'm using adpet and it is not there
[03:35] <linus001> what are you using to set up your partitions?
[03:35] <cga> dyn-afk, they are already there thanks
[03:35] <quiet> what is an adpet?
[03:35] <dyn-afk> Jenkins not if you resize it using partition magic :)
[03:35] <oskude> Jenkins: you came to the right (when not even the best) place :)
[03:35] <Smjor> _stev_, try" sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[03:35] <jake> problem is i have ubuntu setup using webmin as control panel but every time i run a cmd in line says permission denied
[03:35] <Jenkins> linux001, i am using the partitioning program that is on the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS CD/DVD
[03:35] <dyn-afk> cga do you use the add/remove programs tool?
[03:35] <_stev_> CarinArr: I've had a grafical one and now it is a console
[03:35] <dyn-afk> if so, make sure you enable commercial software and unsupported software
[03:36] <cga> dyn-afk, ohps.. no i'm on kubuntu actually :P
[03:36] <dyn-afk> Jenkins that would be gparted
[03:36] <dyn-afk> it's limited if you compare it to partition magic
[03:36] <CarinArr> _stev_, did you uninstall gdm?
[03:36] <bilss_> DBO: hope your asleep!
[03:36] <Jenkins> well its not like i am partitioning a fully partitioned NTFS
[03:36] <linus001> it still works well though
[03:36] <dyn-afk> cga you might do the same with the kubuntu package manager
[03:36] <CarinArr> or gnome
[03:36] <Jenkins> i left myself space last time i formatted ;)
[03:36] <Smjor> dyn-afk, not really, GParted has support for USB-flashdrives:-) PM doesn't!
[03:37] <dyn-afk> LOL
[03:37] <cga> dyn-afk, using that already but is not there
[03:37] <oskude> Jenkins: youre on the right track allright
[03:37] <gregg__> bilss_: "| yourcmd"
[03:37] <dyn-afk> let me be more specific: gparted is limited regarding Windows drives when compared to PM :P
[03:37] <Jenkins> brb, its loading Ubuntu now
[03:37] <dyn-afk> try apt-get install instead cga :P
[03:37] <Jenkins> i'll need help with the partitioning in a second
[03:37] <dyn-afk> on the commandline of course
[03:37] <gregg__> bilss_: including the quotes
[03:38] <oskude> Jenkins: how much freespace do you got ?
[03:38] <Jenkins> oskude, let ya know when i get GPart up lol
[03:38] <secleinteer> when i try to sudo apt-get, konsole returns "sudo: unable to lookup goku-desktop via gethostbyname()" - does any1 know how to fix this?
[03:38] <Smjor> dyn-afk, qtparted is actually better than gparted when it comes to NTFS-partitions, Doesn't seem to f*ck things up all the time
[03:38] <CarinArr> does anyone have any idea how to make fonts render less horribly in firefox?
[03:38] <quiet> did the ubuntu kernel get upgraded to 2.6.17?  will it?
[03:39] <secleinteer> Carin: there's a windows fonts collection at the forums
[03:39] <dyn-afk> ah good tip Smjor ;)
[03:39] <quiet> the 6.06 kernel, rather.
[03:39] <gregg__> quiet: in edgy eft, yes
[03:39] <quiet> bah.
[03:39] <quiet> okay
[03:39] <Smjor> CarinArr, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig", choose autohinter and "native" when asked
[03:39] <cga> dyn-afk, what is the apt- option to search things?
[03:39] <dyn-afk> quiet the kernel will be upgraded along everything else and it will be called ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft :P
[03:39] <gregg__> quiet: dapper won't see drastic chages like that
[03:39] <CarinArr> secleinteer, you can't get the standard fonts to render less uglily (if that's a word)
[03:40] <dyn-afk> cga: apt-cache search
[03:40] <quiet> okay. np.
[03:40] <secleinteer> so you get the windows fonts, and it looks good
[03:40] <cga> dyn-afk, thanks alot
[03:40] <Smjor> cga, apt-cache search whatever
[03:40] <CarinArr> kay, giving that a go Smjor
[03:40] <dyn-afk> np cga
[03:40] <cga> Smjor, thanks to you too
[03:40] <gregg__> quiet: why is 2.6.17 important for you?
[03:40] <CarinArr> smjor, autohinter AND native?
[03:40] <bilss_> gregg_ uum thanks can you go a bit further byway of example and say its the homedir of bliss
[03:40] <Smjor> CarinArr, yes.
[03:40] <dyn-afk> hmmz
[03:41] <CarinArr> smjor, doesn't look like i can choose both "native, autohinter, none"
[03:41] <dyn-afk> I wonder if resizing the ubuntu partition with PM will go well...any experiences with that?
[03:41] <dyn-afk> I'm guessing I might need to reinstall grub
[03:41] <Smjor> CarinArr. sorry, Autohinter first, next Q answer Always
[03:41] <CarinArr> smjor, okay, thanks!
[03:41] <quiet> gregg__, it's really not.  i was just wondering.
[03:41] <gregg__> bilss_: echo '"| /path/to/repserver.pl"' >~/.forward
[03:42] <jake> tried man chmod and chmod no luck keeps saying permission denied
[03:42] <[Ex0r] > jake- sudo chmod
[03:42] <Smjor> CarinArr, after this you must restart X, by issuing "xtrl+alt+backspace"
[03:42] <Smjor> CarinArr,  "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[03:42] <CarinArr> yeah, thanks
[03:43] <Jenkins> ok what partition should i make first? the Swap or the / ext3?
[03:43] <Smjor> I'd recommend ext3
[03:43] <oskude> Jenkins: doesnt matter
[03:43] <Smjor> "/" that is
[03:43] <bilss_> gregg_  what are the words other than echo that come before the pipe sign just ' " ?
[03:43] <CarinArr> smjor, fonts in firefox still look very choppy though
[03:43] <_stev_> CarinArr: hmm well more or less there, reinstall did the job, strange
[03:43] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install frostwire
[03:43] <gregg__> bilss_: just a quote
[03:43] <Jenkins> do i make the ext3 as primary parition or extended?
[03:44] <SuperMiguel> i did installed but when i clicked on it nothing happens
[03:44] <_stev_> CarinArr: what is the default font in ff ?
[03:44] <gregg__> bilss_: I already constructed a command for you that will create the .forward
[03:44] <oskude> Jenkins: heres where you need that "standard" computer knowledge...
[03:44] <Smjor> CarinArr, try "System" > "Font", and enable "Best shapes!"
[03:44] <Jenkins> i have knowledge, im just tryin to install this the right way, i've never touched linux a day in my life
[03:44] <cristiano> hi all
[03:44] <Jenkins> i dont know how it works
[03:44] <Smjor> Jenkins, primary
[03:44] <rednose> hi all
[03:44] <Jenkins> thank you Smjor
[03:44] <profoX`> andrew__: you're the dma dude right
[03:45] <CarinArr> smjor, right.. hang on..
[03:45] <rednose> what up all
[03:45] <oskude> Jenkins: then you should know that you can make max 4 primary partitions...
[03:45] <XplOzIon> Help:  can anyone tell me a good web based FTP server Administrator? One that will let me Add/Edit/Remove user accounts and set any path for each account?
[03:45] <profoX`> andrew__: got your mail but don't have any ideas really..
[03:45] <jszaszvari> .
[03:45] <oskude> Jenkins: linux doesnt care if its primary or logical
[03:45] <Smjor> oskude, he'll end up with 3 in total
[03:45] <_stev_> so what is the best readable font for firefox then?
[03:45] <Jenkins> now for the Swap, should i make it primary or extended?
[03:45] <Smjor> jenkins, still primary
[03:45] <Jenkins> k
[03:45] <bilss_> gregg_ ok  in  .>/ .foward
[03:45] <profoX`> Jenkins: doesn't matter really
[03:45] <gregg__> bilss_: btw, man forward :)
[03:45] <oskude> Jenkins: as i said, linux doesnt care...
[03:45] <jszaszvari> Yeh this isnt windows
[03:46] <Smjor> jenkins, you'll still have room for a extended partition later
[03:46] <dyn-afk> swap...you can make it extended if you like
[03:46] <Badm4n> i have client 192.168.1.1-10 .. and i using 2 GW ... i want to make exception 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.6 using gw1 and other using gw2 how is it ?
[03:46] <Jenkins> ok now it is asking me for mount point for /media/hda1 what partition should that be? the swap?
[03:46] <Smjor> Jenkins, /
[03:46] <bilss_> gregg_ ok its ~/ .foward
[03:46] <XplOzIon> Help:  can anyone tell me a good web based FTP server Administrator? One that will let me Add/Edit/Remove user accounts and set any path for each account?
[03:47] <oskude> Jenkins: that could be the windows partition, where do you have windows installed ?
[03:47] <dyn-afk> Jenkins you can't assign a mountpoint to swap :P
[03:47] <Jenkins> well it has the mount for /media/hda1  then another dropdown for the /
[03:47] <dyn-afk> swap is the easiest partition to setup
[03:47] <gregg__> Badm4n: simply configure these clients to use the other gateway
[03:47] <Smjor> Eh, I guess hda1 is windows
[03:47] <Jenkins> yes HDA1 is windows
[03:47] <dyn-afk> :P
[03:47] <Badm4n> gregg__ no time for that... this is only for a while not permanent
[03:47] <_stev_> how can I without my graphical login start my window manager automatically, without using the startx command in a tty
[03:47] <Smjor> then the second biggest partition will be /
[03:47] <Badm4n> i want set all from server
[03:47] <dyn-afk> Jenkins you have to assign / to the ext3 partition
[03:48] <Smjor> How large is the partition you use for swap?
[03:48] <Jenkins> swap is 1004 MB
[03:48] <oskude> Jenkins: HDA means HD in IDE1 as master, HDB means HD in IDE1 as slave, HDB means HD in IDE2 as master, and so on
[03:48] <fuoco> anybody uses xchat-gnome around ?
[03:48] <Jenkins> the / is 16 Gb
[03:48] <oskude> Jenkins: and hda1 is the first partition on it, hda2 the second and so on
[03:48] <SonicChao> !anybody > fuoco
[03:48] <Jenkins> yah i know the HDA but im just telling you what was default in the boxes
[03:48] <Smjor> Jenkins, let hda1 be on /media/hda1, assign / to hda2 and swap to hda3
[03:48] <Badm4n> anyone please
[03:49] <dyn-afk> oskude explain it a bit more simple: hda = the first ide disk in the machine, hdb the second, etc.
[03:49] <Smjor> and then reformat hda2 and hda3
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> Badm4n: edit /etc/networking/interfaces
[03:49] <Jenkins> i just took out the /media/hda1 all together cause that is my windows partition
[03:49] <bilss_> gregg; yes you did thanks   echo '"| /path/to/repserver.pl"' >~/.forward
[03:49] <bilss_> just to confirm this what i got?
[03:49] <fuoco> SonicChao: there's the notification icon, and it doesn't work for - doesn't show up when i enable the plugin
[03:49] <Jenkins> or should i put it back?
[03:49] <SonicChao> fuoco: Notification icon? I use regular XChat...
[03:49] <oskude> dyn-afk: well, how to know whats "first" if you dont know how to set it as master or slave...
[03:49] <Smjor> jenkins, doesn't matter, but if you take it away, you won't be able to read the contents of win-drive
[03:50] <dyn-afk> oskude that doesn't matter to linux :)
[03:50] <Jenkins> ok then i guess i'll put it back
[03:50] <SonicChao> fuoco: As to go with GNOME policies, the "developers" at GNOME delete features.
[03:50] <pp> Hi! installed 6.06 yesterday and immediately got 185M of updates to download. Is there are any plans for update release, just to save on all this download time?
[03:50] <JohnRobert> is there a parameter I can pass to the kernel to stop it from loading any modules?
[03:50] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : and what should i put on it ?
[03:50] <dyn-afk> if the second hd is a slave on ide1 or if the second hd is a master on ide2 doesn't matter
[03:50] <oskude> dyn-afk: what ? howcome ?
[03:50] <Smjor> pp, same as me
[03:50] <SonicChao> pp: Just install all the updates
[03:50] <dyn-afk> it's just the second harddrive in the machine
[03:50] <SonicChao> pp: No, there isn't. :(
[03:50] <CarinArr> smjor, same after enabling best shapes
[03:50] <CarinArr> hang on let me screenshot
[03:51] <gregg__> JohnRobert: I don't think that's possible - ubuntu is highly modularized
[03:51] <oskude> dyn-afk: how to know whats where if you dont know ide slot and slave or master ?
[03:51] <pp> it's 40min per machine!!! even on high-speed. Insane
[03:51] <erUSUL> pp: is the way linux works you are allways secure with patches
[03:51] <dyn-afk> that's not how linux works
[03:51] <Jenkins> so the mount point /media/hda1 will be my windows NTFS partition to read the files of that in linux correct?
[03:51] <SonicChao> pp: Lol, i don't know, watch TV or something
[03:51] <JohnRobert> gregg__, my question was actually for a custom gentoo kernel :p
[03:51] <gregg__> pp: set up a local mirror with the updates
[03:51] <Smjor> jenkins, yes
[03:51] <Jenkins> k
[03:51] <SonicChao> pp: It should never break though
[03:51] <Jenkins> let me start this format then
[03:51] <oskude> dyn-afk: well, its the bios that defines where the HDs are...
[03:51] <dyn-afk> it looks at how many harddrives are connected not how and where they are connected
[03:51] <SonicChao> pp: I haven't patched Ubuntu in ages
[03:51] <CarinArr> smjor, http://www.pixelicious.net/temp/screenshot.jpg
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> pp: you don't need to download it again for each machine. If they are all on a network just download the updates on one machine, and copy the update files to the other and run apt-get update
[03:52] <dyn-afk> freebsd does look at how and where it's connected
[03:52] <Smjor> jenkins,  ntfs will be mouted read-only in linux
[03:52] <oskude> dyn-afk: what ever
[03:52] <CarinArr> see what i mean about choppy? my hoary work machine displays everything fine.. dapper laptop looks crappy
[03:52] <dyn-afk> but it also uses different devicenames
[03:52] <scott__> anyone know how i can recompile/rewrite my ipod itunes database? as some of my files have gone missing on my ipod but are visible to rythmbox (but not amarok or gtkpod
[03:52] <Jenkins> i will only need read-only on it
[03:52] <Jenkins> as long as i can copy some files from i to linux partitions
[03:52] <Jenkins> it*
[03:52] <Smjor> CarinArr, thats really weird
[03:53] <Smjor> Jenkins, yep, won't be a problem
[03:53] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : ?
[03:53] <Jenkins> k thank you smjor
[03:53] <Jenkins> let me get this formatting
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> Badm4n: read the manual page, as I forgot the exact syntax
[03:54] <n2ob> mmm food
[03:54] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr :(
[03:54] <Jenkins> smjor do you have MSN Messenger?
[03:54] <Smjor> CarinArr, never seen this in ubuntu
[03:54] <Smjor> Jenkins, yes
[03:54] <Smjor> well, gaim
[03:54] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install  frostwire
[03:54] <Smjor> :-)
[03:54] <Jenkins> would you mind if i added you to ask for further help with linux?
[03:55] <jrib> CarinArr: try use a different font, the microsoft ones show up like that for me too.  But if I set preferences to use my own fonts (bitstream vera sans I think) it looks good
[03:55] <fuoco> can i somehow use a newer kernel than dapper provides ?
[03:55] <Jenkins> i probly wont be using it that often lol but always nice to have someone who knows whats going on with it
[03:55] <Smjor> Jenkins, nope, private pm in a moment
[03:55] <jrib> CarinArr: s/use/using
[03:55] <Jenkins> ok
[03:55] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : sry i must go for a while bathroom ... please tell me the command at my pv pls... this is urgent :(
[03:55] <Jenkins> i don't know if i will be able to get the PM since i am not registered with this IRC
[03:56] <linus001> Can anyone help me install a USB / HP 1020 LaserJet printer. I got it to print one test page. That was it, it won't do anything. If I reboot to Windows it works fine.
[03:56] <Viper550> Wanna see a preview of one of the themes that may come with Edgy?
[03:56] <erUSUL> !frostwire > SuperMiguel
[03:56] <CarinArr> jrib, the weird thing is that firefox uses the same fonts on both my machines and one looks perfect, the ohter looks crap
[03:56] <Smjor> Jenkins, join #ubuntutemp
[03:56] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic
[03:56] <phenex> hey guys... i need some help with upgrading breezy to dapper... i did apt-get dist-upgrade and got dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[03:56] <phenex> running sudo dpkg --configure -a answerd the same... what do i do now?
[03:57] <jszaszvari> Hmm not good, I just spun around on my chair and knocked my file server over.....
[03:57] <jrib> CarinArr: are you sure the other machine has the microsoft fonts installed?  If you don't install them, then the machine defaults to what it can find
[03:58] <jordan_> Where is gcc installed?
[03:58] <n2ob> where can i learn the basics of linux networking? any websites?
[03:58] <MrFeetio> what is a good torrent program that allows me to set priority over multiple torrent
[03:58] <jordan_> Azureus
[03:58] <CarinArr> jrib, er.. don't know.. let me look
[03:58] <jrib> jordan_: type 'which gcc'
[03:58] <jordan_> ....
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> !update > phenex
[03:58] <MrFeetio> azureus doesnt work right on linux
[03:58] <jrib> jordan_: ?
[03:59] <jordan_> The one on ubutnu 5.10?
[03:59] <jordan_> Installed with apt
[03:59] <cristiano> i have a bunch of zip files in adir that i want to be extracted all at once by unzip. i've tried with "unzip path/*.zip" but it says "zip file not matched". what to do????
[03:59] <jrib> jordan_: yes, the command I gave you tells you where it is, or at least where the symlink is
[03:59] <phenex> umm... fyrestrtr,,, apt wouldn't work at all now... i don't think the manual will help...
[04:00] <CarinArr> jrib, i don't think i have ms fonts installed..
[04:00] <jrib> CarinArr: on the machine with the bad firefox fonts you mean?
[04:00] <CarinArr> jrib, yeah
[04:00] <CarinArr> i have artwiz fonts installed but i can't think i have any others that are "extra"
[04:01] <XplOzIon> how would i active vnc-server in a server from ssh?
[04:01] <Smjor> CarinArr, try "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[04:01] <CarinArr> smjor, i want them installed?
[04:02] <jordan_> Jrib : That didnt do anything
[04:02] <Smjor> Well, they're nice looking windows fonts. But to be honest, I don't know if it helps:-/
[04:02] <jrib> CarinArr: set preferences > content > fonts > advanced to always use your own fonts, and see if that fixes it.  That should at least tell you if it is a font selection problem.  You could also check the antialias settings in system > preferences > fonts
[04:02] <GTX> Some how X keeps restarting when im typing something, Its when im  holding shift and backspace or something but its driving me CRAZY! how do i stop it
[04:02] <jrib> jordan_: apt-cache policy gcc | grep -i Installed
[04:02] <quiet> it's fine to remove the -386 kernel and all it's stuff if i have the -66 kernel installed, yeah?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> quiet: should be
[04:03] <dr_willis> GTX you are using that Fancy X thing.. glx or whatever its called correct?
[04:03] <abhinay> how to set kdm as default display manager ?
[04:03] <quiet> figured so.
[04:03] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: xgl?
[04:03] <jrib> abhinay: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:03] <dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea thats it :P
[04:03] <GTX> dr_willis, Its installed but not using it no.
[04:03] <jordan_> jrib : It Just said Installed (None)
[04:04] <jordan_> so its not installed?
[04:04] <jrib> jordan_: nope, install the package 'build-essential', that will pull in gcc as well as other development stuff you will need
[04:04] <dr_willis> GTX id double check that - thats identical to a issue that a lot of the XGL people have.
[04:04] <danf_1979> does ubuntu-server come with a ssh server installed?
[04:04] <dr_willis> danf_1979,  its trivial to install one. its not installed by default I think.
[04:05] <dr_willis> !ssh
[04:05] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:05] <GTX> ok dr_willis
[04:05] <ardchoille> Is there a way to disable the ctrl+alt+del key combo from shutting down?
[04:05] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  yes - i think  its in the inittab file.
[04:05] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: yes please see help.ubuntu.com  i cant remember how
[04:05] <CarinArr> jrib, if i tell it always to use my fonts it looks fine
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i know its ont here though
[04:06] <ardchoille> gnomefreak , dr_willis : Thanks, will look it up
[04:06] <dr_willis> you can set what alt-ctrl-del does in the /etc/inittab (I think. i altered it ages ago)
[04:06] <user-land> installing ubuntu succeeded, but while rebooting i again get invalid superblock for the root drive.
[04:06] <Ace2010> how do i copy a folder and all its contents in the command line?
[04:06] <XplOzIon> how would i active vnc-server in a server from ssh?
[04:06] <Ace2010> i want to duplicate it
[04:06] <jrib> CarinArr: that is what I do, I don't know if there is a way to make the other fonts look smoother
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Ace2010: cp
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:06] <jordan_> jrib : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:06] <jordan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:06] <jordan_>  (Whats that for?)
[04:06] <fuoco> can i install a new kernel in dapper? 2.6.17 ?
[04:06] <Ace2010> gnomefreak: thanks
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Ace2010: yw
[04:06] <nofale> hi, i have a problem at bott of ubuntu 6.02
[04:06] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  run 'vncserver' - which  may or may not start up the right window manager for you.
[04:06] <jordan_> That came when i tried to apt it
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> jordan_: close synaptic
[04:06] <gnomefreak> jordan_: close synaptic
[04:06] <nofale> *boot
[04:06] <dyn-afk> fuoco yes you can
[04:07] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  reading the vncserver script will tell you a lot of info about what it does/how it runs.
[04:07] <Smjor> CarinArr, problem solved?
[04:07] <jordan_> synaptic crashed earlier
[04:07] <nofale> the error is "invalid boot sector"
[04:07] <Chrono_trigger> 
[04:07] <jordan_> but its not open
[04:07] <danf_1979> yes I know, but I wanted to use ubuntu as a production server. The problem is, I am not going to do the installation, and the server will be in a datacenter
[04:07] <CarinArr> it's just weird cause i don't think i've ever had to do it before..
[04:07] <dyn-afk> but you'll have to compile the 2.6.17 kernel yourself
[04:07] <danf_1979> nice move ubuntu devs
[04:07] <danf_1979> :/
[04:07] <GTX> dr_willis, how do I fully remove it?
[04:07] <XplOzIon> dr_willis thanks but since im using ssh to manage the server
[04:07] <CarinArr> normally it's looked fine with just standard settings in firefox
[04:07] <fuoco> dyn-afk: i can't find how ?
[04:07] <user-land> should i try to repair the superblock or reinstall on another partition _
[04:07] <gnomefreak> jordan_: its still running look for it in ps aux and kill the pid
[04:07] <ardchoille> dr_willis: It is indeed in /etc/inittab I'll alter it there, thanks again :)
[04:07] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  i ssh into my remote machine all the time and run vncserver, then fire up a vncclient to connect.
[04:07] <nofale> can someone help me?
[04:07] <jordan_> ....
[04:07] <jordan_> how do i do that?
[04:08] <dyn-afk> fuoco the same way as one would do it on debian
[04:08] <dr_willis> GTX no clue there - it never has worked for me - so i dont mess with it any more.
[04:08] <dyn-afk> and there are tutorials for those
[04:08] <XplOzIon> dr_willis ok ill try... thanks!
[04:08] <jordan_> is ther contraol alt delete in lunux?
[04:08] <jordan_> linux
[04:08] <dyn-afk> maybe ubotu has one for ubuntu
[04:08] <gnomefreak> jordan_: it doesnt do the same as windows
[04:08] <jrib> jordan_: system > administration > system monitor
[04:08] <fuoco> dyn-afk: yeah, but i couldn't find anything
[04:08] <gnomefreak> jordan_: just restart X its easier
[04:08] <dyn-afk> I came across one in the ubuntuforums.org yesterday
[04:09] <dr_willis> I would also guess that SSH is NOT installed by default - because it could be considered 'bad' to have a service running that many people dont need by default.
[04:09] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Looks like I can also reduce the number of tty's in that file to, is that correct?
[04:09] <dyn-afk> search the ubuntuforums :)
[04:09] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  if you would want to. :)  no idea why ya would want to.
[04:09] <jordan_> I dont see system monitor
[04:09] <jordan_> nvm
[04:11] <abhinay> hey, i hv a problem - not logging in , if entered my username & password it is comming out to gdm again... ?  any suggestions ?
[04:11] <jordan_> I dont see systematic
[04:11] <jordan_> how do i restart x or whatever
[04:11] <dr_willis> abhinay,  clean install? update? try the console..
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[04:11] <jrib> abhinay: check ownership of ~/.{ICE,X}authority
[04:12] <cd_rom> jesus, lmao my broadband is so slow in ubuntu that synaptic failed to download a package
[04:12] <cd_rom> lord almighty
[04:12] <jrib> cd_rom: that doesn't happen on my dialup!
[04:12] <cd_rom> jrib: i know
[04:12] <abhinay> is there any command wich changes all settings to default settings ?
[04:12] <abhinay> iam able to login as root ...
[04:12] <cd_rom> jrib: download is about 8840b
[04:12] <cd_rom> XD
[04:13] <abhinay> but not with my username & passwd ...
[04:13] <jrib> abhinay: were those files owned by your user?
[04:13] <dyn-afk> fuoco take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[04:13] <default> hi
[04:13] <fuoco> thx
[04:13] <dyn-afk> it's for breezy but it's still the same procedure
[04:14] <cd_rom> ok, i am at ubuntu forum with a thread about slow internet connection so i open up /etc/reselv.conf
[04:14] <lens_> LOL, seems the problems were not caused by my installation, my mouse is running out of juice.
[04:14] <cd_rom> and there are 2 nameserver
[04:14] <dr_willis> abhinay,  you  made a root password?
[04:14] <XplOzIon> dr_willis: thanks a lot.. works perfect!!
[04:14] <abhinay> dr_willis, Yes
[04:14] <fuoco> dyn-afk: that's for manually compiling, right  ?
[04:14] <cd_rom> so should i shift the second to top or what?
[04:14] <phenex> i need some help with apt... when i try to apt-get anything i get an error with deptree ir something like that, which says "run dpkg --configure -a". when i do that i get berezovsky@myth:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:14] <default> small question: I have ubuntu dapper 6.06 installed, my notebook has a ati graphics card and I'd like to update the driver as the driver (fglrx) from the repository is not the latest. Now, what is the best strategy to replace the old one? I mean, should I first remove the one installed with synaptic and then install the .run file from ati - all without rebooting or what would be the best order?
[04:14] <phenex> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[04:14] <phenex> Aborted
[04:15] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  i got my fileserver set where i vnc in and it auto-starts up a vnc session for me - giving me the GDM login screen. :)
[04:15] <phenex> any idea what can i do to solve this?
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> default: read !ati
[04:15] <abhinay> jrib, where can i find   " ~/.{ICE,X}authority  "  ?
[04:15] <default> !ati
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <oskude> fyi: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/devices.html#names (who ever it was)
[04:15] <phenex> the weird thing is that from time to time apt suddenly decides to work... then it finishes and stops working again
[04:16] <default> fyrestrtr & aubotu: thanks
[04:16] <jrib> abhinay: ~/.{ICE,X}authority means /home/USERNAME/.Xauthority and /home/USERNAME/.ICEauthority
[04:16] <user-land> the Ubuntu installer partitioner does not do what you tell him to do:
[04:16] <varsendaggr>  /j #blender
[04:16] <XplOzIon> dr_willis great.maybe you could helpme with another thing
[04:16] <dyn-afk> yes fuoco that's for manually compiling, after compiling you create a .deb package and you install the .deb package
[04:16] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : how
[04:16] <[NaRuTo] > [abhinay] 
[04:16] <dyn-afk> the advantage: with the .deb package you can uninstall the kernel :)
[04:17] <[NaRuTo] > the ~ simbols is the same that you Home directory
[04:17] <fuoco> dyn-afk: yeah ok, i see
[04:17] <Badm4n> i have client 192.168.1.1-10 .. and i using 2 GW ... i want to make exception 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.6 using gw1 and other using gw2 how is it ?
[04:17] <quiet> where do i blacklist a module in ubuntu?
[04:17] <[NaRuTo] > ~/foo and $HOME/foo and /home/user/foo is the same ;)
[04:17] <fuoco> dyn-afk: i look if i can still find a ready made image deb
[04:17] <quiet> nm
[04:17] <quiet> found it
[04:17] <abhinay> jrib, -rw------- 1 root root 126 2006-07-25 16:09 .Xauthority
[04:17] <user-land> i tell it to format hdc1 as root, but instead it warns that two swap partitions will be formatted, but no mention of my hdc1 ...
[04:17] <jrib> abhinay: delete them
[04:17] <[NaRuTo] > yep, remove
[04:18] <abhinay> r u sure ?
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > and restart X
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > :)
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > yes
[04:18] <jordan_> Still not working
[04:18] <jrib> abhinay: yes, you can rename them if you prefer, or chown them to your user, deleting is easier
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > is a common error :P
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > yep
[04:18] <jordan_> It says cannot lock direcory and stuff
[04:18] <user-land> can i easily format the root partition on the terminal ?
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > X session create this file at start
[04:18] <XplOzIon> dr_willis: you know an ftp server manager? a good one. that will let me set user accouts path anywhere?
[04:19] <jrib> jordan_: just reboot
[04:19] <Klump3n> wtf happened to the update thingy?!
[04:19] <abhinay> delete both .Xauthority & .ICEauthority
[04:19] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  my advice for ftp - Ditch it.. and use ssh. :)
[04:19] <[NaRuTo] > ujmm
[04:19] <[NaRuTo] > i think
[04:19] <jrib> abhinay: yeah, they'll get created again when you login
[04:19] <[NaRuTo] > that only .ICEautho.. run
[04:19] <abhinay> jrib, ok
[04:19] <Klump3n> i use gnome, and synaptic shows sth about kde-libs. then: xserver crashes
[04:19] <jordan_> Would a broken package be messing me up?
[04:20] <XplOzIon> dr_willis well i cant. i need ftp server :/
[04:20] <jordan_> Synaptic (Just opened) Says i have one
[04:20] <ali> is there a amd64 dist for debian?
[04:20] <XplOzIon> ali yes
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> ali: in december there will be
[04:20] <jrib> jordan_: maybe, what package?
[04:20] <ali> ok
[04:21] <jordan_> No clue
[04:21] <jordan_> Just says to use a filter...
[04:21] <fyrestrtr> jordan_: means click on the button marked 'Broken' on the bottom left hand corner
[04:21] <thompa> is there a way to tell grub to install on 2nd linux drive rather than mbr of windows?
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> thompa: how would you boot into linux then?
[04:22] <thompa> i dont want grub to mess with windos hard disk
[04:22] <oskude> thompa: you can install grub in a floppy mbr and use that as boot disk
[04:23] <thompa> it has a restore partition, last time i tried it only that and ubuntu would boot
[04:23] <thompa> i got no floppy
[04:23] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: If he did that, wouldn't he have to tell BIOS to boot from 2nd hdd?
[04:23] <MrFeetio> what is a good torrent program that allows me to set priority over multiple torrent, and works on linux
[04:23] <helfrez> any server issues again today? im getting some malformned release files in a few repositories
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: no, that wouldn't work.
[04:23] <oskude> ardchoille: yup, otherwise only windows boots
[04:23] <dr_willis> !torrent
[04:23] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:24] <Jenkins> what is "Network Connection: lo" ?
[04:24] <thompa> so ubuntu has to go to windows disk mbr?
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> localhost, 127.0.0.1
[04:24] <bobovski> hi all.
[04:24] <Jenkins> where would i find my network card ?
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> Jenkins: in the back of your pc
[04:24] <oskude> thompa: the mbr on the disk doesnt belong to windows, windows just installed its mbr to it...
[04:24] <ardchoille> thompa: That is how I learned to do it, it doesn't harm anything.
[04:24] <bobovski> is there an ssh server included with ubuntu or do I have to install one?
[04:24] <Jenkins> no, i mean like in the properties
[04:25] <Jenkins> to check its connection status
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> bobovski: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> Jenkins: it should be there in the gnome network manager
[04:25] <bobovski> fyrestrtr: thanks. will that then be a service started upon install?
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> bobovski: yeap
[04:25] <thompa> ardchoille: hows that?
[04:25] <bobovski> cool, thanks
[04:26] <Badm4n> is this posible to route add -net 192.168.1.2 gw 192.168.1.254
[04:26] <jordan_> Apt Is working Now :) :)
[04:26] <Badm4n> ?
[04:26] <fyrestrtr> bobovski: sorry, not upon install, but you have to install it -- then it will be started automatically from then on.
[04:26] <abhinay> jrib, same problem , nothing has changed ... :\
[04:26] <dyn-afk> hmmz
[04:26] <bobovski> fyrestrtr: yeah, I meant upon boot up :)
[04:26] <ardchoille> thompa: I learned to install Windows first, then install Linux and allow grub to be installed on MBR of master hdd. This way you can choose to boot into either Windows or Linux. But, I hear there are other ways to do it.
[04:26] <Chrono_trigger> hey guys just popping in. I am trying to install ubuntu on a compaq persario 2500 (POS) and the window manager is going so slow I can't get the GUI installer to function.  The computer is not over loaded just sort of crawling for a unknow reason. is there a non-GUI installer I can use of the cd. Desktop version
[04:27] <dyn-afk> I have these mediabuttons on the side of my laptop and I mapped those in GNOME
[04:27] <helfrez> looks like the heatwave may have taken out some more systems lol, some other people in forums reporting problems with some repositories now also
[04:27] <dyn-afk> totem works with all of them
[04:27] <dyn-afk> rythmbox works with nearly all of them
[04:27] <bobovski> fyrstrtr: oh, and it does start after install as well. works perfaect. thanks again
[04:27] <dyn-afk> th eonly button that doesn't work with rythmbox is the play/pause button
[04:27] <thompa> i did some days ago ubuntu install and only recovery partiton or ubuntu would boot
[04:27] <jrib> abhinay: hmm can you check that you have free space available?
[04:27] <dyn-afk> any idea where or how I can add support for that button to rythmbox?
[04:27] <narfmaster> little problem with the repos here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18865
[04:27] <oskude> Chrono_trigger: sadly the desktop cd doesnt have the text-mode installer, you need the alterante cd for that
[04:27] <dyn-afk> or any other mediaplayer then totem
[04:28] <bobovski> have you tried totem-xine/
[04:28] <abhinay> jrib, 27 % free , available
[04:28] <dyn-afk> I just want to use rythmbos for my mp3's and use the play/pause button
[04:28] <jrib> abhinay: don't know then, deleting those two files usually does it, you must be having a different issue
[04:28] <`Evil`> Can anyone help with letting VMware access partitions by default? Unless I run it in as su in term it keeps giving access denied
[04:28] <oskude> Chrono_trigger: or maybe the resolution is "too big" for vesa driver, try the "compatible vga mode" or how its called
[04:29] <dyn-afk> if I can add the play/pause button support to rythmbox I'm a happy guy :P
[04:29] <bobovski> dyn-afk: ah. I'm an xmms fan, dunno about rythymbos
[04:29] <bobovski> er, box
[04:29] <ali> i can't log in as root in gnome but it's possible when I log in at a real terminal
[04:29] <abhinay> jrib, i recently updated my system to edgy eft
[04:29] <quiet> can anyone tell me the name of the theme that is just like the normal Human theme, only it's more of a blue color....  Human-Industrial??  is it in the repos or do i need to get it from gnome-look?
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <oskude> ali: you should not use root, thats what sudo is for
[04:29] <jrib> abhinay: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy, and it's a development version so it may be broken now
[04:30] <abhinay> thank you
[04:30] <bobovski> thanks again, all gotta run
[04:30] <Chrono_trigger> yeah I tried the vga. its wierd the screen saver runs fine so I dont think its a video thing but anything that has to do with gnome takes forever to load but data transfer is find.
[04:30] <ali> oskude: but im trying to use a administration tool
[04:30] <oskude> Chrono_trigger: its running from cd, so its normal that its slow
[04:30] <frogzoo> abhinay: edgy is at least alpha atm - expect things to break regularly
[04:30] <helfrez> narfmaster: same issues here with some security and alot of the backports for dapper
[04:31] <oskude> ali: then run "sudo commandname"
[04:31] <narfmaster> helfrez, any workaround?
[04:31] <`Evil`> Any help with letting VMware access partitions by default. Unless I run it in as su in term it keeps giving access denied
[04:31] <fuoco> dapper has xorg-7.0 which should have working dri for r300, but it's not working for me. should i do something manually to get it working ?
[04:31] <helfrez> narfmaster: none for me, i just had to disable a bunch of repos, im assuming something else melted in a server room somewhere like the other day lol
[04:31] <grampajoe> Is there any way to find out at what speed a USB device is connected (1.1 or 2.0)?
[04:32] <ardchoille> quiet: Is this the one you're looking for: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=40670
[04:32] <narfmaster> helfrez, okay cool i'm going to see what i can do...
[04:32] <vorbote> `Evil`, not tried, but you could add yourself to the the disk group
[04:32] <helfrez> any OPS wanna chime in or add a msg to the topic, i imagine any moment now peopel will started flodding in with questions about repos heheh
[04:32] <Hobbsee> helfrez: what's this?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> helfrez: they dont again?
[04:33] <helfrez> Hobbsee: yeah some of the repose are coming up malformned relase files
[04:33] <`Evil`> vorbote, good idea, didnt wanna make myself root so guess will try that
[04:33] <Hobbsee> helfrez: ah great
[04:33] <Chrono_trigger> I know that that live CD are slow I have been useing linux for about a year now. LOL but we are talking 10 mine to frame out the window.
[04:33] <quiet> ardchoille, actually it's not... but i do like that.  is it in the repo?
[04:33] <helfrez> Hobbsee: security repos and looks liek at least all the dapper-backports
[04:33] <ardchoille> quiet: I don't know
[04:33] <oskude> grampajoe: you could try: dmesg | grep sub
[04:33] <Hobbsee> helfrez: ah yes, i think i saw that
[04:33] <quiet> ok
[04:33] <ali> oskude: The thing is that im trying to run the program "users and groups", and i dont know what it is called from the console,
[04:34] <Chrono_trigger> hmmm you guys just have one kernel on the disk?
[04:34] <ardchoille> helfrez: security.ubuntu.com may be down, but archive.ubuntu.com is working
[04:34] <oskude> ali: and it should ask for a password, right ? its askin you password, if youre the user created at installation
[04:34] <jake> hi anyone know a way to add the sun java to the firefox browser
[04:34] <ardchoille> hmm..  Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release
[04:34] <helfrez> ardchoille:just some of the repos look liek then need to be refreshed, serves are not down
[04:34] <aladds> can someone tell me why my installation fails to boot due to the script /sbin/evms_activate being missing from the initrd and what i can do about it?
[04:35] <helfrez> ardchoille: exactly lol
[04:35] <frogzoo> !java
[04:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:35] <`Evil`> vorbote, naah, not working :(
[04:35] <ardchoille> helfrez: Ahh, ok
[04:35] <oskude> grampajoe: i get "[17179579.616000]  usb 1-2: new low speed USB device " and i know its 1.1 so i assume that low speed means 1.1, but i could be wrong
[04:35] <n2ob> what's the command to fetch a cvs directory?
[04:35] <adel> aloow
[04:35] <helfrez> ardchoille: just some of the repose look liek they have gotten corrupted release files or sumthin, all servers responding atm
[04:35] <acuster> how do I make \theta and \phi and \psi in the inkscape textbox (or the terminal for that matter)
[04:35] <ali> oskude, yes, and im typing the right password, but I only get wrong password, but i know it works, beacouse i can login as root on a terminal with that password
[04:35] <ardchoille> yeah
[04:36] <grampajoe> oskude: I get a message about a new hi-speed device, and I found something in the device manager that tells me it's 2.0
[04:36] <oskude> ali: hmm, you should be able to login as root anywhere...
[04:36] <narfmaster> Hobbsee, archive.ubuntu.com is up but i timeout on certain files there
[04:36] <vorbote> `Evil`, you need to reboot. I know that's silly but for some reason the kernel is not notified of the group change whe it is done (I'm sure it is ia bug but dunno where).
[04:36] <oskude> ali: *shouldnt
[04:36] <adel> haloooo
[04:36] <adel> how are you??
[04:36] <oskude> grampajoe: then it seems to be a usb2.0 bus
[04:36] <gnomefreak> narfmaster: security is having issues here atleast
[04:37] <`Evil`> vorbote, ah k
[04:37] <adel> gw bru pertama chat disini 'n ga ngerti gmn cara na?
[04:37] <adel> da yg bsa ajarin ga?
[04:37] <oskude> ali: did you do somehow set a password for root ? you shouldnt...
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> god don't you just love waiting for backups to get done *sigh*
[04:37] <void^> vorbote: relogin should do, or use newgrp in terminal
[04:37] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: lol
[04:37] <narfmaster> helfrez, i think the workaround for now is to wait a week or so... :/
[04:37] <Drakeson> what is the version (date) of emacs-snapshot in edgy? should I move to the unstable edgy to get a fresh one?
[04:37] <backupForWimps> any high parallel computing centre for bioinfo using ubuntu?
[04:37] <oskude> ali: try "sudo echo foo" in terminal and try your password, if the user is really the user that was created during installation, something is wrong
[04:38] <vorbote> void^, I didnt know that. Thanks for the tip!
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !info emacs-snapshot edgy
[04:38] <ubotu> emacs-snapshot: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot). In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:20060707-1 (edgy), package size 1964 kB, installed size 5744 kB
[04:38] <oskude> ali: eh, i mean if it doesnt work, somwthing is wrog
[04:38] <jake> kk i have that installed is thier away i can install the old microsoft virtual machine java system to firefox
[04:38] <helfrez> narfmaster: im thinking ur right, so much stuff went down the other day, im sure this is just a slight backlash...i just disabled everything returning errors FTM
[04:38] <narfmaster> helfrez, i wish it were that simple... i'm getting errors on repos randomly at this point
[04:38] <Drakeson> !info emacs-snapshot dapper
[04:38] <ubotu> emacs-snapshot: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot). In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:20060114-1 (dapper), package size 2490 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[04:40] <`Evil`> vorbote, didnt work, can i create a shortcut which always runs vmware as root or something like that?
[04:40] <thiago__> hi
[04:40] <Drakeson> ahh! I am growing the feeling that I need to move to edgy to get upgraded packages, (in other words, can one really rely on backports, honestly?)
[04:40] <oskude> Drakeson: do you really need upgraded packages ?
[04:41] <abhinay> can i install dapper on edgy  ?
[04:41] <Drakeson> there are a few packages I need upgraded, like emacs
[04:41] <lordzero> im new in ubuntu and im using a live cd, how can i keep my stuff i downloaded or the changes i made?
[04:41] <ardchoille> Drakeson: edgy is still beta, so updated packages may or may not work
[04:41] <ali> oskude: I tried to type the root password but it doenst work, Should't I have a root passoword and a password for my user?
[04:42] <dr_willis> !root
[04:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:42] <ardchoille> ali: you should only have your user password, unless yuo have enabled the root account yourself.
[04:42] <oskude> ali: as i said, "sudo" ask your password (if youre the first user created, like at the installation)
[04:42] <interfear> Do I want to use XMMS as my mp3 player? is there something else you guys can recommend?
[04:42] <`Evil`> Anyone using vmware here?
[04:42] <backupForWimps> interfear, use MPLAYER instead
[04:42] <dr_willis> interfear,  theres many players.. xmms is an older one.. beep media player is nice. or the juke/amarok/others.
[04:43] <backupForWimps> mplayer -loop 0 *.mp3
[04:43] <goudkov> how can i install glibc-devel on dapper?
[04:43] <backupForWimps> or use mp3blastwr
[04:43] <ali> oskude: I installed ubuntu in expert mode, and I was able to set a root password
[04:43] <Drakeson> ardchoille: some packages often tend to work, even at beta stage.
[04:43] <backupForWimps> mp3blaster
[04:43] <thiago__> i've  problems with winecfg. Where do : winecfg, result = thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg
[04:43] <thiago__> Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.
[04:43] <thiago__> can't create mcop directory
[04:43] <thiago__>  , thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg
[04:43] <thiago__> Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.
[04:43] <thiago__> can't create mcop directory
[04:43] <interfear> dr_willis: yeh, for some reason amarok wont work, i dunno il try to figure it out..
[04:43] <thiago__> .  can me help ?
[04:43] <interfear> backupForWimps: yeh i need to find a nice skin for mplayer
[04:44] <backupForWimps> interfear, just use command line ;-)
[04:44] <oskude> ali: well, then youre an expert, you should know ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:44] <lordzero> can any one help me on that one?
[04:44] <abhinay> is it possible to install dapper on edgy using dapper installation CD ?
[04:44] <backupForWimps> any1 from MALAYSIA here?
[04:44] <interfear> backupForWimps: :)
[04:44] <dr_willis> expert mode seems to be used more by nonexperts then it is experts....
[04:44] <dr_willis> :)
[04:44] <ardchoille> lol
[04:45] <ali> oskude: Hehe, im not used to not having the root password :) I was using slackware, but i wanted something that supports my amd64 processor
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: so true lol
[04:45] <oskude> ali: you login (in gnome) with the user (not root!) you created during installation, then click the program you want to use, and if it asks for a password, its the password of that user, not roots password
[04:45] <Drakeson> ali: sudo works just fine, trust it
[04:46] <ryan_naruto> when i restart my comp it makes my desktop setting to use ubuntu when im logging in to Xfce desktop i always menu>settings>desktop setting> tick on allow Xfce to manage desktop.... is there a way that i wont do this everytime i restart my pc
[04:46] <josh__> what are the commands to modify users/groups?
[04:46] <oskude> fyrestrtr: ive seen lot starting using sudo
[04:46] <thiago__> i've  problems with winecfg. Where do : winecfg, result = thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg  , thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.can't create mcop directory .  can me help ?
[04:47] <josh__> i need to delete the nx user and group so i can reinstall freenx
[04:47] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: AFAIK, Ubuntu is the only distro that uses sudo bydefault and lockes the root account at installation.
[04:47] <lordzero> how do i save changes on a live cd?
[04:47] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  the linspire disrto defaults to the user being root all the time... which is real real scary. :)
[04:47] <grampajoe> What's the command to make a script file executable?
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: os x does it too, but its no linux :)
[04:47] <josh__> lord... uy dont save changes
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: well, considering they are emulating Windows, it makes sense.
[04:47] <oskude> lordzero: thats not ment to be done in ubuntu desktio cd
[04:48] <ardchoille> I knew there was something about linspire that I didn't like
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: chmod +x filename
[04:48] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  Emulate the worst of both worlds!
[04:48] <dr_willis> :P
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: exactly
[04:48] <dr_willis> theres a lot about Linspire to Not like. :)
[04:48] <lordzero> so i need to instal it instead of using a live cd?
[04:48] <dr_willis> lordzero,  or use a usb thumb drive to save stuff to.
[04:48] <abhinay> i hv a problem with mplayer; saying "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available , Enable it at compilation "   ???
[04:48] <lordzero> ok
[04:48] <lordzero> thanks
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:49] <josh__> anyone know those commands?
[04:49] <frogzoo> !permissions > grampajoe
[04:49] <ardchoille> josh__: Which commands?
[04:49] <josh__> the ones for modifying users/groups
[04:50] <josh__> i need to delete the nx user and the nx group
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> josh__: usermod
[04:50] <josh__> then i need to add 2 user names and add them to the sudo list
[04:50] <thiago__> i hv  a problem with winecfg. When do $ winecfg, result =  thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.can't create mcop directory . Any me undestand ?
[04:50] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> josh__: to delete, userdel groupdel
[04:50] <josh__> usermod deletes groups too?
[04:50] <josh__> ahh... thats why i couldn';t do it...
[04:50] <josh__> was trying to do groupmod
[04:50] <josh__> lol
[04:50] <dr_willis> thiago__,  i cant recall ever rnning winecfg -
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> josh__: to add, useradd -- and ... you guessed it, groupadd :P
[04:51] <ali> oskude: Does these administration tools use sudo when i try to run them?
[04:51] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl i cant find my samba shares ,i can only find them when i connect to server and enter ip otherwise i cant see them when i browse windows shares
[04:51] <oskude> ali: yup, atleast from the gnome menus
[04:51] <dr_willis> homerh_linux,  the samba config file has a 'browseable' option that may be off by default. as well as 'writeonly' being set.'
[04:51] <oskude> ali: if you run them from terminal, you need the command "sudo" in front of them
[04:52] <thiago__> dr_willis: More i he reinstall
[04:52] <ali> oskude yeah I know, but thanks :)
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> ali: otherwise, strange and curious results may happen.
[04:52] <josh__> ok u wouldn't happen to know a link to how i can set more sudoers from the commandline would ya? adding a user to sudo group doesn't work
[04:52] <thiago__> dr_willis: More i hv reinstall
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> josh__: add the concerned user to the admin group
[04:52] <oskude> josh__: i think the group was "admin" or so
[04:52] <josh__> admin....
[04:52] <josh__> no sudo?
[04:52] <ardchoille> josh__: add user to admin group
[04:52] <josh__> ok
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> josh__: any user in the admin group has rights to sudo
[04:53] <oskude> josh__: but would be more logical to have group sudo ..
[04:53] <grampajoe> I can't get mtp (media transfer protocol) to work on my pc, it won't recognize my Creative Zen Vision:M, can anyone offer any suggestions?
[04:53] <Chrono_trigger> hmmm the real slow response seems to be isolated to the install program
[04:53] <josh__> thats what i was doing wrong there.... lol i almost have this sucker fixed now :)
[04:53] <homerh_linux> dr_willis the smb.conf is ok all set alright (i think ) i has been working but its stoped for some reason
[04:53] <dr_willis> homerh_linux,  samba can be a very fickled beasty! :)
[04:53] <josh__> so... usermod -G admin josh then do a usermod -g all,other,groups josh
[04:53] <josh__> ?
[04:54] <ardchoille> josh__: From the wiki: in the terminal this would be: sudo adduser $user admin, where you replace $user with the name of the user.
[04:54] <dr_willis> homerh_linux,  i tend to edit my /etc/hosts file and put in the name/ips of all my machines also.
[04:54] <josh__> lol yeah but my sudo dont work so i gotta do it as root lol
[04:54] <homerh_linux> yeah i took me ages to get it working
[04:54] <josh__> but whatever... as long as it works :)
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> mirrors are down?
[04:55] <XplOzIon> how can i remove for example mysql-server with all conf files and everything
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> XplOzIon: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[04:56] <josh__> next question... how do i make it not ask me for the password?
[04:56] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: some, yes
[04:56] <XplOzIon> thanks fyrestrtr
[04:56] <josh__> i had it fixed that way before but i dont remember what i did to make it that way
[04:56] <josh__> and i was at home in front of the computer using the user/groups gui to change stuff...
[04:56] <josh__> lol
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> josh__: for your safety and the safety of others, always enter the password.
[04:56] <josh__> which i cant do right now because i cant get freenx working
[04:56] <ali> what's the reasons why ubuntu is better that debian?
[04:56] <eitch0000> where would I go for info on webcams?
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> ali: this chatroom
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> !webcam
[04:57] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:57] <ardchoille> ali: ubuntuforums.org
[04:57] <josh__> ali... ubuntu is user friendly while still being powerful enough for the guru's
[04:57] <thiago__> eitch0000: vc eh brasileiro ?
[04:57] <ali> ok, ill check out that forum too.
[04:58] <oskude> ali: better is relative... but ubuntu is "better" for first time users (atm)
[04:58] <gregg__> ubuntu is good for people who don't want to spend half their life just installing and configuring their OS
[04:58] <dr_willis> ubuntu is good for people.
[04:58] <dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <josh__> fyrestrtr: i understand its safer for other users... but it is my personal computer and constantly having to input the password each time will just make me want to su it and that could be more dangerous :)
[04:58] <dr_willis> Builds Character!
[04:59] <srikat> hello
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> hey, its brown and has got a cool, 'we are the world'-type logo. What more you want?
[04:59] <gregg__> josh__: well, you don't need to enter it each time, sudo remembers your password for I think 10 minutes
[04:59] <ardchoille> lol
[04:59] <srikat> does ubuntu installer ask for GRUB location? if so, is it C: drive?
[05:00] <josh__> yeah but when i sit in front of this box... lol i change everything
[05:00] <fyrestrtr> srikat: normally, it doesn't.
[05:00] <josh__> constantly :)
[05:00] <oskude> srikat: sadly the graphical installer doesnt ask for a location for the grub
[05:00] <gregg__> srikat: grub is installed into the MBR
[05:00] <srikat> for a comp that has xp pro running at C:, is the MBR on C:?
[05:00] <oskude> srikat: and fyi: c: is no partition
[05:01] <gregg__> srikat: no, the MBR is outside any partition
[05:01] <srikat> I've taken a screenshot of my current partitions..can you guys kindly look at it and tell me where MBR would be?
[05:01] <gregg__> srikat: the MBR is the first sector of the hard disk, it gets executed first when booting
[05:01] <srikat> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/1522/1002706921317273764_rs.jpg
[05:02] <oskude> srikat: you dont see mbr on any partition tool. theres only one mbr on disk, and its in the first cylinder of the whole disk
[05:02] <ardchoille> srikat: It most likely won't be on a screenshot of partitions. MBR is the first 512 kb of a hard drive.
[05:02] <grampajoe> How do I get an MTP mp3 player (Creative Zen Vision:M) to be recognized by Linux?
[05:02] <gregg__> ardchoille: byte :)
[05:02] <srikat> what if there are 3 disks, like in the jpg I linked above?
[05:02] <gregg__> grampajoe: gphoto2 can do it
[05:02] <oskude> srikat: and your mbr is on the disk you said to be used as boot device in bios
[05:02] <ardchoille> oh, sorry, byte, no kb
[05:02] <interfear> grampajoe: i have a creative zen micro and it detects it
[05:03] <oskude> srikat: wh, *the windows boot loader
[05:03] <BarryAllen> hi all
[05:03] <Sonobana> Hello! How i change default language of dapper live-cd
[05:03] <srikat> hmm..I guess I understood
[05:03] <grampajoe> I've been trying many, many things over the past two days and I can't get anything like Gnomad2 or Kzenexplorer to recognize that it's connected
[05:04] <srikat> let me just proceed w/ the installation and see what happens
[05:04] <grampajoe> gregg_: Why would a program for digital cameras work?
[05:04] <meng>  /quit
[05:04] <Chrono_trigger> I know this is hardware related
[05:04] <josh__> so... where can i get some info on takin out the password for sudo?
[05:04] <CappO> where can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?
[05:05] <oskude> srikat: i dont really know where the graphical installer install grub... on the disk you installed ubuntu, or on the first disk(master) on ide1,...
[05:05] <jszaszvari> Josh - ??
[05:05] <ardchoille> josh__: Why do you want to do that?
[05:05] <gregg__> grampajoe: MTP is very similar to an earlier protocol used for digital cameras IIRC. anyway, gphoto2 support MTP
[05:05] <josh__> sudo = password right now... i want to sudo = nopassword
[05:05] <josh__> because that is how i had it set before... it was just les time consumming
[05:05] <moonunit> my computer wont let me login anymore, so i threw my live disk in and booted it, its telling me that disk space is low on my primary
[05:05] <jszaszvari> suso is just ur userpass
[05:05] <ardchoille> josh__: So that would effectively make you root all the time
[05:05] <moonunit> any ideas?
[05:06] <gregg__> josh__: visudo
[05:06] <josh__> yeah... but without being root
[05:06] <gregg__> josh__: man sudoers
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> josh__: the difference being.....?
[05:06] <josh__> its not quite as dangerous as being root... but its not as annoying as having to constantly typ in the password
[05:06] <josh__> the difference is if im root any command i do will be done as root...
[05:06] <grampajoe> It isn't detected by gphoto2, either
[05:07] <josh__> as me i will have to type sudo for the commands i cant already do
[05:07] <moonunit> guys i really could use some help, my computer wont let me login anymore, so i threw my live disk in and booted it, its telling me that disk space is low on my primary
[05:07] <gregg__> grampajoe: maybe it's broken?
[05:07] <vorbote> josh__, tou can always type "sudo -s -H" and get a true root console
[05:07] <CappO> where can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?
[05:07] <quiet> how do i get gconf and the whole 'System Tools' menu?
[05:07] <grampajoe> gregg_: It worked just fine yesterday on a different computer, it was running WinXP
[05:08] <XplOzIon> how can i fix this error in phpmyadmin
[05:08] <XplOzIon> how can i fix this error in phpmyadmin #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> quiet: type gconf-editor
[05:08] <gregg__> http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
[05:08] <oskude> moonunit: it would help if you had an error message about the login
[05:08] <gregg__> grampajoe: which zen do you own?
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> XplOzIon: how is that a ubuntu question?
[05:08] <grampajoe> gregg_: Vision:M
[05:08] <srikat> perhaps not the right place to ask, but has anyone tried Mepis?
[05:08] <josh__>  XplOzIon use a user that is alloowed to mess with the db
[05:08] <ardchoille> josh__: doing sudo = nopassword you can rm -rf while making a mistake with the path and end up erasing the entire hdd
[05:08] <gregg__> grampajoe: it's supported, look a the list
[05:08] <quiet> fyrestrtr, yes, but how do i get the menu in the gnome main-menu?
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> quiet: use alacarte and add it.
[05:09] <grampajoe> gregg_: Yep, I see it there, but it still isn't detected
[05:09] <josh__> ur right ... but i still have to type in sudo to do that
[05:09] <XplOzIon> josh__: root is able but dont know whats that error
[05:09] <quiet> ok
[05:09] <gregg__> grampajoe: is it even recognized by the kernel
[05:09] <trev__> is anyone having a problem with update manager crashing gnome and logging you out?
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> josh__: man sudoers
[05:09] <ardchoille> josh__: at least when sudo asks you for a password, it makes you think about what you are doing. But, just my opinion.
[05:09] <josh__> XplOzIon: so you added root as a valid db user?
[05:09] <moonunit> oskude: if you could just tell me where the swap file thats apparently full is, i could delete its contents
[05:09] <Enverex> Erm, I think I've got a serious problem. Whenever I use Synaptic I keep getting a message saying my Package Cache file is corrupted.
[05:09] <grampajoe> gregg_: How would I find that out?  I see it listed when I run lsusb, would that mean it is?
[05:09] <kum> where is irc?
[05:09] <XplOzIon> josh__ yeah i was reinstalling all now i get that error
[05:09] <oskude> moonlite: theres no swap file, just a swap partition
[05:09] <XplOzIon> josh__ any idea how to fix it?
[05:10] <gregg__> plugin it in and check dmesg | tail
[05:10] <josh__> and i respect your opinion... but we in the south have a saying "different strokes for different folks"
[05:10] <gregg__> -in
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> kum: you are on it right now
[05:10] <moonunit> oskude: its moonunit, and is there any way i can get into the partition to clear it out
[05:10] <ardchoille> josh__: Fair enough :)
[05:10] <kum> lol, yeah, but someone told me doin /charset ISO-8859-2 in irc
[05:10] <adel> alo
[05:10] <josh__> XplOzIon: no... i wish i did...
[05:10] <confused> I cant get nvidia to run properly, can someone help?
[05:11] <ernstp> does anyone know how to configure the default OSS sound device?
[05:11] <josh__> i ran into too many errors trying to set up a db so i said screw it and started learning perl instead lol
[05:11] <oskude> moonunit: hmm, adaik it will be erased on every boot... just look for a partition with format "swap"
[05:11] <CappO> where can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?
[05:11] <Apeiron> hey all :) i want to know if there is a way to force the bootsplash to use a special resolution, or something like that? thx for help in advance :)
[05:11] <oskude> moonunit: *afaik
[05:11] <grampajoe> gregg_: [17182139.512000]  usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6, looks like it's recognized
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> dreamlinux looks so ... dreamy lol
[05:11] <moonunit> oskude: i know right where the partiton is, how do i clear it manuallly
[05:11] <ernstp> I have two soundcards, and set the correct one in gnome-sound, and ALSA-apps uses that one. But OSS apps uses the other soundcard!!
[05:11] <gregg__> grampajoe: looks alright
[05:11] <josh__> ernst p whirl?
[05:12] <Enverex> .... anyone? It kinda sounds like the entire of my APT is borked
[05:12] <ardchoille> CappO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:12] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: that just means the system detected something was plugged into the usb port, that doesn't mean it can use it.
[05:12] <oskude> moonlite: i doubt theres anything in it... but: mkswap
[05:12] <helfrez> Apeiron: vga= to ur options
[05:12] <moonunit> oskude: im telling you, its moonunit
[05:12] <ernstp> josh__: what?
[05:12] <helfrez> Apeiron: vga=791 is 1024x768 795=1280x1024
[05:12] <Apeiron> helfrez, thx, can i simply write vga=1024x786 for example?
[05:12] <josh__> nothing
[05:12] <josh__> lol
[05:12] <Apeiron> helfrez, kk, much thanks
[05:12] <Jenkins> is there a way to change your username after install?
[05:12] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: example, I plugin my WM5 device, I'll get the same type of message, but its completely unsupported.
[05:12] <oskude> moonunit: moonlite sorry, im hasty with autocomp....
[05:12] <helfrez> Apeiron: np, just append that to the rest of your grub option
[05:13] <Apeiron> helfrez, yupp
[05:13] <gregg__> fyrestrtr: yeah, but the zen vision:m is supported
[05:13] <grampajoe> fyrestrtr: I've found people who've had no trouble using a Zen Vision:M in Linux
[05:13] <ernstp> Jenkins: it's not easy, and there's no gui for it
[05:13] <CappO> thanx ardchoille
[05:13] <Apeiron> helfrez, on my laptop the tft screen cant interpolate, so those 640 resolution looks really bad ^^
[05:13] <Enverex> Ok, as no-one is going to help there.... what do I need to do to get the Gnome frequency scaling monitor working?
[05:13] <ardchoille> CappO: You're welcome :)
[05:13] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: my point is, you might have to do something else other than just plugging it in. Don't assume that because you see that line, everything is ready :)
[05:14] <grampajoe> fyrestrtr: Oh, I know, I just can't figure out what I need to do to make  it ready
[05:14] <Kr0ntab> !log
[05:14] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:14] <ali> Im not in  the sudo file, should i use visuod to change it?
[05:14] <grampajoe> I have the latest libusb, libmtp, and libnjb
[05:14] <Apeiron> helfrez, oh, one question, should i append it to the kernel options or to the ramdisk options?
[05:15] <grampajoe> I've done everything Google has told me to do, and still I can't use it
[05:15] <Apeiron> s/ramdisk/initrd
[05:15] <gregg__> grampajoe: gphoto2 --auto-detect
[05:15] <ardchoille> ali: if you're not in sudoers, then using sudo visudo won't help you
[05:15] <helfrez> Apeiron: kernel options, and yes i have a lcd that looks horribel at 640 also
[05:15] <Apeiron> helfrez, hehe, k, thanks
[05:15] <helfrez> Apeiron: np netime
[05:16] <grampajoe> gregg_: It just says "Model                    Port" on one line, then nothing
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> ali: add yourself to the admin group
[05:16] <grampajoe> gregg_: Would I need to run gphoto2 as root?
[05:16] <beerfan> Is Edgy Eft stable enough to use full time?
[05:16] <gregg__> grampajoe: --list-cameras shows your player as being supported? maybe your gphoto2 is too old
[05:16] <moonunit> oskude: no dice on that command, its saying that my windows drives are too full
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> gregg__: that's good news, because I wanted to buy one of those :D
[05:16] <gregg__> grampajoe: usually not, but give it a try
[05:17] <grampajoe> gregg_: Didn't work :/
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> Apeiron: kernel
[05:17] <oskude> moonunit: who is telling you that ? and whats windows partition ?
[05:17] <grampajoe> gregg_: Hmm, actually it doesn't list the Vision:M
[05:17] <grampajoe> gregg_: I'll try upgrading
[05:18] <ardchoille> Wowzers! Someone keeps logs of this channel.. nice :)
[05:18] <moonunit> oskude: when i fire up admin-disks it tells me in the bottom right corner of my desktop '/dev/hda1 is 98% full'
[05:18] <gregg__> fyrestrtr: I wouldn't... even if it is somewhate supported, usb mass storage is the way to go (works everywhere)
[05:19] <josh__> moonunit: well then delete some stuff lol
[05:19] <moonunit> josh__: its not really that simple
[05:19] <josh__> why not?
[05:19] <gregg__> iriver Txx rock. although they are shipped with MTP they can be changed to UMS via firmware upgrade
[05:19] <moonunit> i have important stuff on it?
[05:19] <josh__> lol just delete /home
[05:19] <josh__> lol
[05:19] <oskude> moonunit: and what partition is that and in what format ? like / on ext3 ?
[05:19] <josh__> dont
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> moonunit: how big of a partition is it?
[05:19] <josh__> it was a joke
[05:19] <Enverex> Ok. I have three questions. One is a serious issue, one is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. First, whenever I use Synaptic it tells me my package cache file is corrupted. How do I "uncorrupt it"? Second is whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the third issue is what do I need to
[05:19] <Enverex>  do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.
[05:20] <moonunit> its a 20gb partition in fat32
[05:20] <moonunit> its my windows install
[05:20] <jerware> fellaz.
[05:20] <josh__> fat32?!
[05:20] <beerfan> Enverex, since i just had to do this you type "sudo apt-get install -f" to uncorrupt your cache
[05:20] <jerware> can some one provide me a url to the ubuntu faqs?
[05:20] <oskude> moonlite: well, then login in ubuntu shouldnt complain about that..
[05:20] <moonunit> josh__: its a goddamn windowws install, gotta play UT somehow
[05:20] <josh__> well i suppose its ok cuz atleast he can write to windows partition
[05:20] <ali> fyrertrtrim already on the admin group
[05:20] <Brokenstein> can anyone help with my USB HD? http://brokenstein.pastebin.com/756440
[05:20] <josh__> lol moonunit
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> !faq
[05:20] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[05:20] <oskude> moonlite: sorry again, :/
[05:20] <josh__> u do understand ut is linux native right?
[05:21] <grampajoe> gregg_: Unfortunately my Vision:M was a gift, I would've rather had the much more readily supported iPod :/
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> ali: then you can sudo
[05:21] <josh__> that means it was designed on linux and runs better then windows
[05:21] <josh__> just like americas army
[05:21] <moonunit> oskude: the problem is, it still wont work
[05:21] <josh__> ok moonunit ... here is what you are gonna want to do... delete windows :P
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: I'll *gladly* take it off your hands. The V:M is far better than the ipod.
[05:21] <jerware> josh__ : so cedega is not needed for UT ?
[05:21] <oskude> moonunit: maybe you should go back to start. boot ubuntu, go to ctrl+alt+f1 and try to login and tell use the error message
[05:21] <gregg__> ipod? god beware!
[05:21] <josh__> jerware... nope
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> roflmao @ josh__
[05:21] <Brokenstein> kill m$ and dont look back baby
[05:21] <interfear> jerware: you can run ut on linux
[05:22] <moonunit> oskude: ctrl alt f1?
[05:22] <jerware> josh__ : thats great !!
[05:22] <jerware> save me $15
[05:22] <josh__> :)
[05:22] <interfear> anyone know if counterstrike runs on linux?
[05:22] <oskude> moonunit: that gets you to the text console
[05:22] <beerfan> fyrestrtr, V:M is MTP only. How do you use it on linux?
[05:22] <jrib> does anyone know if bbdock is packaged in any of the ubuntu repos?  Or can you recommend a similar dock app?
[05:22] <josh__> hold please...phone
[05:22] <moonunit> oskude: will try, brb
[05:22] <ardchoille> !info bbdock
[05:22] <ubotu> Package bbdock does not exist in dapper
[05:22] <Brokenstein> interfear: i know people who play it
[05:22] <interfear> Brokenstein: without a windows emulation?
[05:22] <ardchoille> jrib: I guess it isn't
[05:22] <dfcarney> moonunit: for reference, ctrl+alt+f7 bringe you back to the window manager
[05:22] <dfcarney> *brings
[05:22] <gregg__> Enverex: what kind of cpu do you have?
[05:23] <ardchoille> jrib: there is pypanel and docker. I have used both and they are cool, IMHO
[05:23] <ryan_naruto> where is the folder for usb drive when it mounted it recognizes my drive using dmesg but thunar and nautilus cant see it
[05:23] <BarryAllen> hi all
[05:23] <jrib> ardchoille: I'll give it a try, thanks
[05:23] <Brokenstein> interfear: not sure but they have really crap hardware so id guess without
[05:23] <Enverex> gregg__, Pentium 4
[05:23] <ardchoille> jrib: a word of caution, don't run pypanel while gnome-panel is running
[05:23] <gregg__> Enverex: it probably doesn't support frequency scaling
[05:23] <grampajoe> fyrestrtr: I agree that the Vision:M itself is better than an iPod, but what's the use if my PC thinks it's just a brick with a USB connector?
[05:23] <oskude> ryan_naruto: i think in /media/usbdrive
[05:23] <jrib> ardchoille: k, I'm actually planning on using it in fluxbox
[05:23] <Enverex> gregg__, It does, I had it working when I used Gentoo before
[05:23] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: I'm sure you can get it to work, just have some patience.
[05:24] <beerfan> do universe (multiverse?) packages ever get updated? half the programs I use are like 4 versions old.
[05:24] <ardchoille> jrib: Awesome, I used them in openbox and liked them
[05:24] <BarryAllen> im trying to use my radeon 9100 / igp (mobile), without success in dapper, ... the kernel module is up... my driver in xorg.conf is "radeon" but i got the message in the Xorg.log (II) RADEON(0): [agp]  You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module
[05:24] <BarryAllen> is loaded before the radeon kernel module.
[05:24] <beerfan> Does one have to upgrade to edgy to use recent programs?
[05:25] <josh__> ok where were we
[05:25] <josh__> ahh yes
[05:25] <oskude> BarryAllen: "ati" should load "radeon" automaticly...
[05:25] <ryan_naruto> how can i manually mount my usb drive????
[05:25] <Enverex> BarryAllen, Does it work with the fglrx module? (ATi's official driver)
[05:25] <josh__> did moon already leave?
[05:25] <gregg__> Enverex: you need to load the speedstep module - normally this should happen automatically
[05:25] <BarryAllen> Enverex, i tried that, but the oficcial doc, says, my chipset (igp), does not support 3d....
[05:26] <oskude> ryan_naruto: something like: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/foo
[05:26] <BarryAllen> oskude, to be sure the radeon driver is loaded after agpgart, i have turnd off my X session, removed the module radeon, loaded again the module radeon, and up the X sessoin....
[05:26] <BarryAllen> oskude, and have the same error.
[05:27] <Enverex> BarryAllen, Well if the official Doc says it doesn't support 3D then 3D isn't going to work with any driver is it, lol
[05:27] <oskude> BarryAllen: :/ and what was the problem before you started to hack ? X didnt start ?
[05:27] <LordElph> is there an easy way to "unload" the desktop and drop back to a console
[05:27] <BarryAllen> enraGe, the kernel have support to it.... (drm)... lol!
[05:27] <minerale> Hi, does anyone know the name of that multiverse package that allows for mplayer to be used as a plugin in firefox ?
[05:27] <BarryAllen> oskude, works... but without dri :(
[05:28] <ardchoille> LordElph: I had to do that when I installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia, you can ctrl+alt+f1 and do sudo init3 .. that will get you to runlevel 3
[05:28] <oskude> BarryAllen: i think ati/radeon doesnt have dri (if thats the 3d hardware acceleration part)
[05:28] <LordElph> ardchoille: smashing, thanks for that
[05:28] <stefg> !info mozilla-mplayer
[05:28] <teicah> is there a gui for viewing/extracting/adding files in a *.deb ?
[05:28] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:28] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[05:29] <sri_> I want to maintain some intra net But i am a beginner of server administration;can any one tell where to start......
[05:29] <oskude> BarryAllen: so you want 3d hardware acceleration, right ?
[05:29] <minerale> stefg: here's the odd bit, I installed mozilla-mplayer, and it only works with ubuntu's build for firefox... I was wishing to use the mozilla build
[05:29] <Enverex> BarryAllen, DRM != 3D support...
[05:29] <mjr> BarryAllen, oskude, 9100 _should_ have 3D straight from the box with the free radeon driver
[05:30] <oskude> sri_: google knows plenty... wikipedia is good to...
[05:30] <Enverex> BarryAllen, (you said enraGe  last time btw)
[05:30] <mjr> I'm not sure how the IGP model relates to this, if at all
[05:30] <BarryAllen> enraGe, so sorry... im tring to have dri
[05:30] <oskude> mjr: hmm, man sais ati/radeon doesnt have 3d hardware acceleration... did i read wrong ?
[05:30] <BarryAllen> Enverex, : so sorry, im trying to have dri
[05:30] <grampajoe> gregg_: I upgraded gphoto2, and it detects the Vision:M, so... how do I use this thing to upload mp3s? :D
[05:31] <mjr> oskude, what man?
[05:31] <oskude> mjr: man ati
[05:31] <Feral_Kid> Anyone on that is using a AMD64 machine? I was gettiing ready to re-compile my kernel, and realized that I am not sure what to do as far as processors go. I am using the 32-bit version of Dapper, and I don't want to change that... So I do put in the configuration that this is a P4?
[05:31] <gregg__> grampajoe: the command line interface? man gphoto2 :)
[05:32] <oskude> ok, this is new to me "hardware 3D acceleration (experimental on R300 and R400 series cards)"
[05:32] <detien> hi guys, I installed gcc but when I try gcc in terminal. it said command not found
[05:32] <Enverex> BarryAllen, All I had to do to get my ATi mobility working was install the ATi driver with Synaptic and change the xorg.conf file to use fglrx instead of radeon
[05:32] <grampajoe> gregg_: Alright, well thanks for your help, I think I can actually use my $300 brick now
[05:32] <mjr> oskude, the ATI driver doesn't actually handle Radeons but older Atis, it will hand off Radeons to the radeon driver, whose man page you should be looking at
[05:32] <gregg__> grampajoe: or use gphotofs, more comfortable :)
[05:32] <tristanmike> detien: install "build-essential"
[05:32] <bcl> how do you turn off part/join messages in xchat-gnome?
[05:32] <BarryAllen> Enverex, i tried fglrx but.... fglrxinfo dont reports use of dri
[05:33] <oskude> mjr: yup, just read it again, sorry havent had an radeon for while (and that experimental wouldnt have been supported by my card)
[05:33] <Enverex> BarryAllen, Do you have dri enabled in the xorg.conf file?
[05:33] <Feral_Kid> Enverex> Yeah, it works, but it still uses the Mesa libs, as opposed to using fglrx libs...
[05:33] <BarryAllen> Enverex, yes ... i have dri and glx in the  modules section
[05:33] <Enverex> BarryAllen,  Does the xorg log file explain any errors?
[05:34] <detien> tristanmike|  thanks. I'm installing it right now
[05:34] <oskude> BarryAllen: i assume you will be installing fglrx in the end, as it sais experimental for radeon..
[05:34] <amarokker> Is there any way for evolution to open web links in a new tab inside epiphany instead of a new window
[05:34] <BarryAllen> oskude, i tried fglrx first.... now, im trying to use "radeon"
[05:34] <Enverex> BarryAllen, radeon doesn't support hardware 3d accelleration anyway afaik
[05:34] <oskude> BarryAllen: is your card supperted by the experimental driver ?
[05:34] <mjr> oskude, the r200 driver (radeons <=9250) is actually pretty functional, the r300 (radeon 9500-x850) is more experimental
[05:34] <mjr> Enverex, bzzt, see above
[05:35] <Enverex> mjr, Erm, where does that mention 3D Support? That's just normal display support and 2D Accelleration if it doesn't say otherwise
[05:35] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit ubuntu running good
[05:35] <NV_The_Riper> yop a tous
[05:36] <mjr> Enverex, my context was 3d support. Read again in that context.
[05:36] <Enverex> mjr, hmm, where is your source?
[05:36] <oskude> mjr: ah, you mean 3d hw accel works an ALL radeons, but only experimental on r300 and r400 ?
[05:36] <detien> I have very low sound volume in Ubuntu. I already turned everything on in alsamixer. Is there anyway I can adjust it?
[05:36] <BarryAllen> oskude, i dont know... where can i found the "experimental" driver?
[05:36] <mjr> oskude, not ALL; the new r500 families are completely unsupported (>x1000)
[05:36] <oskude> BarryAllen: its all in the radeon driver
[05:36] <flodine> i want to install ubuntu but is flashplayer for 64 bit firefox not working
[05:36] <oskude> mjr: ok but lover than r300 should have 3d hw accel ?
[05:37] <oskude> *lower
[05:37] <mjr> oskude, but yes, r200 and earlier ones have a pretty solid driver, and the r300 driver (which also supports r400 cards, that is, up to x850), do have some experimental support (still crashy etc)
[05:37] <knapper> .
[05:37] <BarryAllen> oskude, so, yes is supported, i got in Xorg.log:  ATI Radeon 9100 IGP
[05:37] <oskude> mjr: ok. thanx for clearing that
[05:37] <mjr> Enverex, dri.sourceforge.net, r300.sourceforge.net, my own x800 card at home running 3D with the X.org drivers in Dapper
[05:37] <grampajoe> gregg_: With gphotofs, would I run it like "gphotofs /media/mp3", or am I misreading the usage?
[05:38] <mjr> (also crashing on some programs, but good enough to run 3860x1200 tuxracer ;P )
[05:38] <oskude> BarryAllen: sorry, i allways used only fglrx as i read it that only r300+ have 3d hardware acceleration, and that allso in experimental state. sorry my mistake
[05:39] <BarryAllen> oskude, no problems dude
[05:39] <fuoco> how do i enable beagle searching in deskbar ?
[05:39] <josh__> hey... question...can u still freenx/vnc to a server if the xorg is XGL?
[05:39] <gregg__> grampajoe: never used it, I don't know
[05:39] <Enverex> mjr, What does glxinfo say for direct render and opengl vendor string say?
[05:39] <josh__> and if not... how can i set it differently for remote logins
[05:40] <Enverex> BarryAllen, I'm using a Mobility 9000 so I don't see why this would be so different for you
[05:40] <mjr> Enverex, direct rendering: Yes, OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc., OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20040924 TCL
[05:40] <BarryAllen> Enverex, :01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] 
[05:41] <mjr> Enverex, that's my x800 desktop box, of course. I actually have a thinkpad with mobile 9000 (not accessible at the moment) and 3d works by default with that too, with the free drivers
[05:42] <Enverex> mjr, hmm, which is better for the 9000, free or official?
[05:42] <amarokker> *sighs* once again, is there any way for evolution to open web links in a new tab inside epiphany instead of a new window? I couldnt find the tab-settings in epiphany
[05:42] <mjr> BarryAllen, Enverex, as I said, I'm not quite sure if the IGP model is properly supported by the out-of-the-box driver version. It could be, mind you, I'm just not sure.
[05:42] <Enverex> BarryAllen, ah, yours is the R300...
[05:42] <Enverex> BarryAllen,  0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01)
[05:42] <HermanDE> fdsa
[05:42] <mjr> hmm, true, RS300M, weird... I didn't think 9100s used 300 series stuff
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > how do I configure gamepads in ubuntu?
[05:43] <aikon_> is there some chanel dedicated to xubuntu?
[05:43] <ardchoille> #xubuntu
[05:43] <Enverex> aikon_, just a random guess but.. #xubuntu, heh
[05:43] <ardchoille> it might be #xubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <aikon_> xubuntu :That channel doesn't exist
[05:43] <jon27kc> detien, I know this sounds obvious, but is there a volume ctrl on your speakers or headphones that cd. have been changed by mistake? That's happened to me and it took me a half hour to realize it once.
[05:43] <beerfan> assuming I installed some edgy packages which broke stuff and want to get rid of them so I can go back to the dapper versions, what command would I use? dpkg --purge name isn't really working
[05:43] <Enverex> Now talking on #xubuntu
[05:43] <Enverex> * Topic for #xubuntu is: Official Xubuntu Channel
[05:44] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me with my usb hard drive? i kinda need it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18867
[05:44] <ardchoille> aikon_: It most certainly does, do: /cs info #xubuntu
[05:44] <aikon_> yeah its true
[05:44] <aikon_> Thanks
[05:44] <BarryAllen> Brokenstein, say.... what's the problem?
[05:44] <detien> jon27kc|  I've checked everything
[05:45] <minerale> If i copy a string from firefox, then close firefox, then I try to paste it - it does not work ... .why is that ?
[05:45] <jon27kc> detien, I lose sound completely a lot and have to restart ALSA or mess with ESD, but if alsamixer shows all output volume levels set normally, I don't know what to suggest... I experimented just now with negative results.
[05:46] <[Ex0r] > Okay, I take it nobody knows the answer to that question. That's the only question i've seen unanswered.
[05:46] <gnomefreak> minerale: its been like that for a long time i have yet figured out why its that way
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > minerale- because once you close firefox, it loses it's clipboard information
[05:47] <ardchoille> minerale: That is the fault of firefox. gnome 2.14 no longer has that problem.
[05:47] <Enverex> Ok. I have two questions. One is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. Whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the other issue is what do I need to do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.
[05:47] <minerale> I remember when using kde, there was a little clipboard utility that would monitor the clipboard and keep the buffer alive even when the program who created the copy buffer died, thus it would allow for you to paste something after it's been copied
[05:47] <Brokenstein> BarryAllen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18867
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: yes it does :(
[05:47] <Enverex> minerale, klipper
[05:47] <minerale> would klipper work in gnome ?
[05:47] <grampajoe> How do I mount an mp3 player using gphotofs?
[05:48] <Enverex> minerale, yup
[05:48] <Tommy2k4`> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <gnomefreak> minerale: there is a gnome clipboard i cant remember name off hand
[05:48] <Enverex> ... glipper?
[05:48] <Enverex> lol
[05:48] <gnomefreak> !info gnome-clipboard
[05:48] <ubotu> Package gnome-clipboard does not exist in dapper
[05:49] <mjr> gnomefreak, minerale ardchoille et al, clipboard information isn't copied anywhere by default, the holding application has it privately. Hence it'll go away if it closes. There are steps taken by freedesktop.org to spesify a proper solution (it's not trivial to determine in which format(s) the data should be copied for example, if the app closes)
[05:49] <minerale> it's been discontinued
[05:49] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: gnome 2.14 fixed that little problem. I can copy (ctrl+c) in one app, close that app, open another app and do paste (ctrl+v) and it works fine.
[05:49] <minerale> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-devel-list/2004-March/msg00046.html
[05:49] <Enverex> ardchoille, Doesn't work for me
[05:49] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: doesnt work here either
[05:49] <Enverex> ardchoille, Evolution and Firefox both clear the clipboard for me
[05:49] <minerale> ardchoille: neither for me
[05:49] <gnomefreak> never has
[05:49] <ardchoille> I guess I have a magical version of gnome
[05:50] <mjr> ardchoille, what app did you try? Are you sure you closed the app and not just one window of it?
[05:50] <Enverex> Grrr, klipper doesn't work properly, it opens a tiny window with the systray icon in rather than being in the actual systray
[05:50] <fuoco> how do i enable beagle searching in deskbar ?
[05:50] <amarokker> whats the default news reader for gnome?
[05:51] <Enverex> gregg__, speedsteplib module seems to be loaded...
[05:51] <Juhaz> amarokker, and just what is news reader? usenet? rss?
[05:51] <amarokker> rss.
[05:51] <fishy> How do I set up the last.fm player on Ubuntu?
[05:51] <amarokker> sorry, meant feed reader
[05:52] <grampajoe> When I try to mount an mp3 player with gphotofs, I get the error "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory", does this mean it can't find the fusermount command?
[05:52] <MarcN> fuoco: add to the panel the deskbar  (assuming you already have beagle installed)
[05:52] <amarokker> when i try to subscribe to a feed on epiphany it tells me none is installed...i think there are several feed readers installed from kubuntu.
[05:52] <Paladine> no it means there isn't a directory already in existance for fuse to mount to
[05:53] <fuoco> MarcN: i did. but in the prefs i don't see the beagle live search
[05:53] <ardchoille> mjr: I opened gedit, type some text, highlighted it, ctrl+c, closed gedit, opened a gnome-terminal, pressed ctrl+shift+v and it pasted. I close the term, did ctrl+f2 ctrl+v and it pasted there too
[05:53] <Enverex> You know it's hotter in England right now than it is in Florida and has been for the last few weeks. This is insane...
[05:53] <MrRio> I'm setting up Trac, I'm getting "No such file or directory: '/var/trac/VERSION'" in my apache error log
[05:53] <Juhaz> amarokker, there's no default or official, but there are bunch that fit well into gnome
[05:53] <MarcN> fuoco: I see Beagle and Beagle Live (and bunch of others)
[05:53] <fuoco> MarcN: i only have beagle. ...
[05:53] <Juhaz> amarokker, liferea, straw and blam at least, probably more.
[05:53] <ardchoille> There was an official statement from the gnome devs that gnome 2.14 fixed that problem.
[05:54] <_stev_> Enverex: every day is a step towards the lovely winter
[05:54] <MarcN> fuoco: I have beagle, beagle-backend-evolution, kio-beagle (for KDE), libbeagle0 and python-beagle installed.
[05:54] <ardchoille> Juhaz: Did gnome 2.14 fix the problem of the ctrl+c clipboard being cleared when the app closes?
[05:54] <Enverex> ardchoille, Any idea why klipper makes a little window for its systray icon rather than going into the REAL systray?
[05:55] <ardchoille> Enverex: No idea, I don't use kde apps
[05:55] <moonunit> well i have no errors to report
[05:55] <moonunit> but it still wont work
[05:55] <Juhaz> 2.12 did, partially, though maybe it's been improved for 2.14
[05:55] <disposable_mike> Enverex: it's because it's looking for the KDE taskbar, when you're running it inside gnome
[05:55] <ardchoille> Juhaz: I thought so, thanks
[05:55] <fuoco> MarcN: ah, python-beagle is not installed. i wonder why it's not pulled
[05:55] <Enverex> disposable_mike, grrr, stupid KDE apps. Other programs are ok
[05:56] <rub> is there one sock proxy for linux ?
[05:56] <disposable_mike> Enverex: that one specifically works with the kdelibs, so i think that's why it misbehaves
[05:56] <MarcN> fuoco: not sure if I explictly installed it.   Can't hurt
[05:56] <Enverex> So, does anyone have any ideas about my two annoying issues that I'd really like to get fixed?
[05:56] <MarcN> Rub: tsocks
[05:56] <rub> where download it ?
[05:57] <kaffien> anyone here using ubuntu in an office setting??
[05:57] <sjbrown> yup
[05:57] <MarcN> rub: sudo apt-get install tsocks  (or use synaptic)
[05:58] <kaffien> how many users have you got on ubuntu?
[05:58] <MarcN> kaffien: I am.
[05:58] <Brokenstein> im setting een an office chair
[05:58] <derekS> what term is ubuntu emulating? xterm? linux term? vt100?
[05:58] <MarcN> kaffien: ubuntu is what I run on my laptop connecting to corp stuff like exchange.
[05:58] <kaffien> i have about 30 pc's that im thinking about upgrading to linux
[05:58] <derekS> i am having char/redreaw issues with putty
[05:59] <disposable_mike> derekS: are you connecting to ubuntu, or from?
[05:59] <kaffien> these are standard office users who need,  web, office products like spreasheets a wordprocessor etc
[05:59] <disposable_mike> derekS: retarded question, never mind
[05:59] <MarcN> kaffien: there are a few MS Office docs that open office has problems with.  but not many.   Just be aware of things like word macros, locked fields in XLS docs, etc.
[05:59] <disposable_mike> derekS: gnome-terminal is the defaul terminal app with ubuntu
[05:59] <derekS> disposable_mike: to, using putty
[06:00] <kaffien> yeah i had thought about that too
[06:00] <kaffien> this is very much a future thingy
[06:00] <derekS> i can set it to the correct term, i just don't know which
[06:00] <ardchoille> Enverex , gnomefreak , minerale , See the section "Clipboard" here:  http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rnusers.html
[06:00] <gregg__> derekS: putty uses its own terminal emulation, which might be flaky
[06:00] <Bellerophon> hello, I got some troubles upgrading warthy to breezy(only cd I could find to upgrade from), and get the next error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18868
[06:00] <derekS> gregg__: i can chose the term
[06:00] <ravenhvis> Heyaho
[06:00] <kaffien> my biggest blocks are,  excel docs,  quickbooks,  and eeeevil exchange server
[06:00] <disposable_mike> derekS: i'd just go with a straight vt100, unless that gives you problems
[06:01] <Enverex> ardchoille, Well no matter what it says, it still doesn't work
[06:01] <derekS> disposable_mike: lemme try that
[06:01] <kaffien> i've already put a gentoo server on the network for filesharing ... take some load off the poor exchange server
[06:01] <gregg__> derekS: you can choose the type, but putty doesn't use gnome-terminal, for example
[06:01] <derekS> disposable_mike: there go m colors :)
[06:01] <derekS> gregg__: i know that
[06:02] <ardchoille> Enverex: That would make me think that your gnome is somehow broken.
[06:02] <gammamute> hello
[06:02] <derekS> but gnome-terminal has no effect on htis
[06:02] <disposable_mike> derekS: right, that was unneccessary information
[06:02] <rub> is easy to configuring one firewall in ubuntu ?
[06:02] <paul_> Is there a way to take my favorites used in Microsoft Internet Explorer, and import them into Mozilla Firefox on Ubuntu?
[06:02] <gammamute> hello
[06:02] <disposable_mike> dereks: the only thing that really matters is what the SSH or whatever server is running, and what putty is running
[06:02] <minerale> ardchoille: try this: open firefox, copy the url, close firefox and make sure it's closed, then reopen it and try to paste
[06:02] <Enverex> ardchoille, and most other people in this channel apparently, and my other PC....
[06:03] <derekS> disposable_mike: i don't like vt100... no color :(
[06:03] <gammamute> hello
[06:03] <derekS> checking the charsetn ow though
[06:03] <detien> !chm
[06:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about chm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:04] <gammamute> hello
[06:04] <ardchoille> minerale: There are loots of things in ff that don't conform to some of the gnome standards, that's the fault of firefox, not gnome.
[06:04] <rub> is easy to configuring one firewall in ubuntu ?
[06:04] <ardchoille> bbiab
[06:04] <derekS> disposable_mike: still no luckk
[06:04] <detien> How do I read chm file on Ubuntu?
[06:04] <disposable_mike> detien: install xchm
[06:04] <ajmitch> gammamute: you've said hello enough times, stop now
[06:04] <grampajoe> When I try running gphotofs to mount an mp3 player, I get the error: "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory", but it was working fine before I rebooted, what can I do to fix it?
[06:04] <gammamute> mitch, I was just saying hi.  you cant say hi back?  how rude.  are you american?
[06:05] <Subhuman> !ask
[06:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <Enverex> ardchoille, Evolution does it too. I think that IS part of Gnome
[06:05] <Subhuman> gammamute, this is for support, dont spam the channel up, jus makes it harder to read.
[06:05] <Cntryboy> Can someone tell me why java isn't working with konqueror web browser?
[06:05] <detien> disposable_mike|  I did apt-get xchm but E: Couldn't find package xchm
[06:05] <gammamute> I wasnt spamming.  I was saying HI
[06:05] <b14ck73425> what format does my music need to be in in order to burn it on an audio cd?
[06:05] <gammamute> thats really screwed up
[06:05] <_stev_> when I look at my /etc/fstab, I seen that my swap doesn't have a mount point, how do I fix this or is this normal?
[06:05] <disposable_mike> detien: it might be in mutiverse, i forget
[06:05] <Enverex> gammamute, To who? No-one knows you and I doubt anyone cares, heh, there are over 800 people in here.
[06:05] <disposable_mike> detien: do you have multiverse added in your repositories?
[06:06] <Subhuman> gammamute, hi isnt a question, you need help - ask, you dont - dont ask a question, go help out
[06:06] <oskude> _stev_: heres how my swap line looks like in fstab: /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:06] <gammamute> yeah, but I intend on acting like a civil human being- I may be alone in my efforts.
[06:06] <detien> disposable_mike|  I don't know. I'm new to linux. I just installed Ubuntu last night
[06:06] <ajmitch> gammamute: not from the behaviour in other channels. behave here or you're out
[06:06] <gammamute> what are you talking about?
[06:07] <disposable_mike> detien: open synaptic, then go to....shoot, i can't rememebr the name of the menu option
[06:07] <rub> is easy to configuring one firewall in ubuntu ?
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[06:07] <Subhuman> rub, yes if you use firestarter
[06:07] <gammamute> hello
[06:07] <fishy> I'm trying to install libffi4, but it says it depends on gcc-4.0-base. When I install gcc-4.0-base, it says it is already the newest version. How do I get libffi4 to install?
[06:07] <_stev_> oskude: I have the same here, so it isn't used?
[06:07] <izut> hi there. how can I add all basic development packages? there's such a task for that?
[06:07] <disposable_mike> detien: you have to check all the repositories lists in Synaptic's options
[06:07] <Subhuman> !hi
[06:07] <GTX> Where can I get some decent widgits on my desktop?
[06:07] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:07] <gammamute> thank you!
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> izut: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:08] <derekS> so no one knows what term ubuntu's openssh uses?
[06:08] <disposable_mike> detien: then do an update, then try and install xchm
[06:08] <detien> disposable_mike|  thanks, let me try
[06:08] <Subhuman> derek_shower, what do you mean by "term"?
[06:08] <b14ck73425> what format dos my music need to be in in  order to burn it on an audio cd?
[06:08] <izut> fyrestrtr: thanks.
[06:08] <oskude> _stev_: well, "free -m" shows me: Swap:         1074          5       1068
[06:08] <GTX> Where can I get some decent widgits on my desktop?
[06:08] <derekS> Subhuman: what does it emulate? xterm? vt100 (obv not)? linux?
[06:08] <detien> disposable_mike|  even the community maintain one?
[06:08] <Subhuman> b14ck73425, .wav, but use gnomebaker or k3b to do it for you.
[06:08] <fishy> How do I get the GNOME Listen player to install?
[06:08] <disposable_mike> GTX: gdesklets and gdesklets-data
[06:08] <GTX> thanks disposable_mike
[06:08] <gammamute> AJMITCH IS AN ASSHOLE WHO'S GOIN TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[06:08] <b14ck73425> ty
[06:08] <fyrestrtr> derekS: that is entirely up to the ssh client you are using, not the server.
[06:09] <gammamute> SORRY
[06:09] <gammamute> WRONG WINDOW
[06:09] <Subhuman> derekS,  your setting up puTTY yes? use xterm.
[06:09] <disposable_mike> detien: there should be one that says universe, and one that says multiverse
[06:09] <derekS> fyrestrtr: then why is my client having charset issues?
[06:09] <Enverex> rofl
[06:09] <disposable_mike> detien: just check both of  them
[06:09] <derekS> fyrestrtr: i am trying to get mutt to work
[06:09] <fyrestrtr> derekS: take it up with your client, as its all there, not on the server.
[06:09] <disposable_mike> thanks ajmitch
[06:09] <Enverex> ajmitch, makes you wonder which Window it was apparently for :P
[06:09] <fishy> Is there a way to get the GNOME Listen player to install without going into an infinite loop of dependencies depending on one another?
[06:10] <derekS> fyrestrtr: heh, now i gotta find a putty channel :)
[06:10] <Jukru> derekS: utf-8 doesn't work?
[06:10] <derekS> Jukru: well, its the charset of the app, not the emails
[06:10] <fishy> ugh
[06:10] <Jukru> derekS: aah ok
[06:10] <fyrestrtr> fishy: this is not redhat, use synaptic :)
[06:11] <oskude> fishy:  "apt-cache search gnome listen player"  didnt give me any packages, what paclage do you mean ?
[06:11] <grampajoe> When I mount my mp3 player to /media/mp3, I try to browse it and it says "Unknown error code: 16", what does that mean?
[06:11] <fishy> oskude: It's not a package. http://listengnome.free.fr/
[06:11] <detien> disposable_mike|  I checked them and it showed this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release: Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[06:12] <oskude> fishy: well, then you propably have to ask them whats wrong
[06:12] <fishy> fyrestrtr: I would, except one of the dependencies won't install. python2.0-ctypes depends on libffi4, which depends on gcc-4.0-base.
[06:12] <fishy> fyrestrtr: The only problem is that gcc-4.0-base is already the newest version, but libffi4 won't install anyway.
[06:12] <disposable_mike> detien: uncheck the backports checkbox, as that seems to be giving you some problems
[06:12] <oskude> fishy: could allso be a bug, you better report to them
[06:12] <GTX> disposable_mike - Where do I get more themes for gdesklets
[06:13] <m0gsi> Anyone here using knot 1?
[06:13] <disposable_mike> GTK: gdesklets.org, or you can google for them...not sure beyond that
[06:15] <rekrutacja> hi all do you know how to use scanner under ubuntu? i plugged canon 3200f to usb port, it seems in device manager that it waqs recognized, but what to do now?
[06:15] <Enverex> rekrutacja, Go to Sytem at the top, then Administration then Printers
[06:15] <_stev_> oskude: ah ok, nice cmd, you have your ram,swap and buffers/cache where is that stored ?not in ram or in swap ? with 1G of ram I assume I don't need a swap or is it necessary?
[06:16] <detien> disposable_mike|  I got it now. Thanks
[06:16] <oskude> rekrutacja:  xsane image scanner (under graphics)
[06:16] <void^> _stev_: you should always have some swap
[06:16] <disposable_mike> detien: sure :)
[06:16] <rekrutacja> oskude xsane under gimp couldn't find device
[06:16] <oskude> _stev_: dunno, i allways got 1g swap, what ever amount of ram i have :)
[06:17] <oskude> rekrutacja: hmm...
[06:17] <_stev_> oskude: ok
[06:17] <Brokenstein> can anyone help with my usb harddrive? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18867
[06:17] <rekrutacja> Enverex, oskude i should add my scanner in printers???
[06:17] <Enverex> rekrutacja, Yup
[06:17] <Enverex> erm
[06:17] <Enverex> wait what
[06:17] <oskude> rekrutacja: i dont think that is needed for scanning...
[06:17] <_stev_> void^: if you use the free command, you see a line with buffers/cache, what is that exactly ?
[06:17] <Enverex> I think I read something wrong here rekrutacja , lol
[06:18] <oskude> rekrutacja: is that a scanner only or a multifunction thing (scan/print) ?
[06:18] <void^> _stev_: that's memory used minus buffers and cache, and memory free plus buffers and cache
[06:18] <xst> How do I install an arabic locale? In earlier versions I just did a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and checked a subset of the language. What to do now?
[06:18] <PingunZ>  I need some help, is there anyway to select options in the kernel from the console
[06:18] <rekrutacja> oskude: its canon 3200f, just a scanner
[06:19] <oskude> rekrutacja: hmm...
[06:19] <Enverex> rekrutacja, My bad, I must have read when you were talking about adding your printer or mixed something up with it. Yeah, run XSane from your Applications menu like oskude said
[06:20] <cox> can anybody help with old version of Ubuntu
[06:20] <rekrutacja> oskude: Enverex no devices avalaible
[06:20] <sri_> can any one tell how to put our display image in gaim....?It is impossible...?
[06:20] <jrib> cox: just ask your questiona nd mention the version
[06:21] <rekrutacja> but it is visible in device manager
[06:21] <rekrutacja> oskude but it is visible in device manager
[06:21] <oskude> rekrutacja: damn only as experimental, in cvs :/ http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-3200f.html
[06:21] <jrib> sri_: what do you mean by "display image"?
[06:21] <oskude> rekrutacja: just googled it..
[06:21] <sri_> jrib, sharing our picture(or)avatar like yahoo messenger
[06:21] <rekrutacja> oskude: ok, i will try to run it
[06:21] <oskude> rekrutacja: :/ good luck...
[06:21] <sri_> jrib, atleast display image
[06:22] <_stev_> void^: aha great
[06:22] <Enverex> Damn, Ubuntu doesn't support Reiser4
[06:22] <jrib> sri_: I don't know about yahoo, here is how you do it for AIM: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q44
[06:22] <rekrutacja> oksude hmmm how to exctract and install experimental version from cvs???
[06:23] <rekrutacja> oskude: is it hard to install?
[06:23] <joshua> folks I desperately need some help. I accidentally uninstalled xgl, when I was using it and had forgotten, now even though I've reinstalled it I cannot startup gnome or gdm...
[06:23] <oskude> rekrutacja: you have to compile it your sef
[06:23] <joshua> if there is a log somewhere I can type it in here (irssi)
[06:23] <rekrutacja> oskude: ok, i give up
[06:23] <sri_> jrib, u dont know when some body chatting with u then the display photo comes ......
[06:23] <fishy> How do you install an older version of a package. I need gcc-4.0-base but the 4.0.1-1ubuntu version, not the 4.0.3 version.
[06:24] <rekrutacja> oskude: thanks for help (and damn canon)
[06:24] <jrib> sri_: I don't use yahoo's network, it works for me on the aim network
[06:24] <cox> so my problem is I cant install anything becouse i always displays that i dont have  gcc compiler i downloaded the version 4.1.1 and i cant install it ether help im noob :PP
[06:24] <sri_> jrib, ok thank u..
[06:24] <oskude> rekrutacja: with luck it would be just a module/driver... but you could allso try to compile that thing only locally (like, not using "make install")
[06:24] <jrib> cox: do you know about apt?
[06:24] <cox> apt ?
[06:24] <cox> no
[06:25] <cox> you mean get-apt upgrade
[06:25] <jrib> jrib: open up system > administration > synaptic, synaptic is a front end for apt.  That's the best way to install things on ubuntu
[06:25] <grampajoe> How do I upload a file to a specific directory using gphoto2?
[06:26] <jrib> cox: what version of ubuntu are you using by the way?
[06:26] <fishy> urg
[06:28] <minerale> Hi, I have a huge number of .png images, individual frames for a film
[06:28] <PingunZ> !sed
[06:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:29] <minerale> Hi, I have a huge number of .png images, individual frames for a film, how can I combine them into one movie/film?
[06:29] <oskude> minerale: i used to use transcode
[06:29] <dr_willis> minerale,  i think gimp has a feature to do that.
[06:29] <PingunZ> click next very fast
[06:29] <joshua> if there is a log somewhere I can type it in here (irssi)
[06:29] <joshua> folks I desperately need some help. I accidentally uninstalled xgl, when I was using it and had forgotten, now even though I've reinstalled it I cannot startup gnome or gdm...
[06:30] <grampajoe> How do I use gphotofs to mount an mp3 player?
[06:31] <fishy> How do I install python-gtk2-dev?
[06:31] <oskude> joshua: maybe following the tutorial from start again that you used to install xgl
[06:31] <goatmale> fishy it's probably already installed
[06:31] <goatmale> run synaptic fishing and do a search.
[06:31] <fishy> goatmale: It isn't, I checked.
[06:31] <b14ck73425> im trying to burn an audio cd...what do i need to do
[06:32] <oskude> fishy: are you compiling something ? if the package is not called like that, try to find it with "apt-cache search python gtk2 dev"
[06:32] <fishy> goatmale: If I install it, it gives me a list of dependencies. If I install one of the dependencies, it gives me a large list of dependencies.
[06:32] <detien> disposable_mike|  I installed xchm but I still can't open chm file :(
[06:32] <sri_> jrib, ya thank u working
[06:33] <b14ck73425> i have a bunch of mp3s that i want to make an audio cd with but i need to know what to do with them
[06:33] <oskude> b14ck73425: its very longtime ago as i last made audio cds, doesnt it ask if you want to do an audio disk when you insert an emtpy cdrom ?
[06:33] <flodine> can someone tell me why the bootup screen of ubuntu looks so ugly
[06:34] <Ng> flodine: what do you mean?
[06:34] <disposable_mike> detien: i have used xchm to open chm files in the past...
[06:34] <flodine> the letters are big when i asked for it to install it 1600x1200
[06:34] <oskude> b14ck73425: ah, you need to convert them to "normal" audio files before you can use them in a "normal" audio cd... or are you burning them for a mp3 player ?
[06:34] <disposable_mike> detien: i right-click on the file, then choose "open with" and select xchm from the command line window
[06:34] <b14ck73425> no i want an audio cd
[06:34] <b14ck73425> so "normal"
[06:34] <Ng> flodine: if you mean the progress loading screen, that always runs in a small resolution
[06:34] <fishy> oskude: I'm trying to compile something. It won't compile because of dependencies. Those dependencies won't install because of more dependencies. The dependencies of the dependencies won't install because of dependencies.
[06:34] <Enverex> flodine, It's like 640x480 or something
[06:35] <Enverex> fishy, Just install the top level dep and it will install all the others automatically
[06:35] <flodine> yeah but can you change it
[06:35] <oskude> fishy: give me an apt-get line that doesnt work and ill try it too
[06:35] <fishy> Enverex: That's what I thought, but it didn't.
[06:35] <cox> hi its me again :P  i was trying to install gcc by the synaptic and i get this :W: Nie udao si wykona operacji stat na licie pakietw rdowych http://www.kadu.net dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.kadu.net_download_bianry_ubutu_repo_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu)
[06:35] <b14ck73425> how do i convert them
[06:35] <fishy> oskude: "sudo apt-get install python-gtk2-dev"
[06:35] <detien> disposable_mike|  ahhh, It works now. I thought it would auto detect file type. Thanks
[06:35] <minerale> oskude: have you ever used transcode? How would I select a list of files as the input stream ?
[06:36] <Ng> flodine: only by changing the framebuffer options on the kernel command line. Personally I don't think it's worth it for the short period of time it's booting - once X starts it should go to the correct resolution :)
[06:36] <oskude> fishy: i think "k3b" can do it "automaticly"... dunno about other tools, as i havent never done that...
[06:36] <flodine> Ng thxs
[06:36] <fishy> oskude: What's k3b?
[06:36] <skeeziks> Where can I find the Ubuntu Package Policy?
[06:36] <oskude> minerale: man transcode, or read its docs/manual... or even ask google
[06:36] <vorbote> b14ck73425, serpentine will do the trick after you intall gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:36] <oskude> fishy: a program to burn cds
[06:36] <damnation> um stupid Q
[06:37] <damnation> 6.06 is dapper right?
[06:37] <Bonez56> roger that
[06:37] <Ng> damnation: yes
[06:37] <b14ck73425> i know but where do i get those
[06:37] <fishy> oskude: Well, that depends on tons of stuff as well.
[06:37] <damnation> thanks ng
[06:37] <damnation> :)
[06:37] <oskude> fishy: oh, doesnt work here neither, maybe a bug?!
[06:37] <cox> ANYBODY can  help with this :i was trying to install gcc by the synaptic and i get this :W: Nie udao si wykona operacji stat na licie pakietw rdowych http://www.kadu.net dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.kadu.net_download_bianry_ubutu_repo_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu)
[06:37] <oskude> fishy: wait, i get a connection refused O.o
[06:38] <andre_> i'm having trouble getting my tv-out to work on my gf6200.  i have my xorg.conf set up for separate screens on the monitor ad the TV, but as soon as X starts the TV loses signal, Xorg.0.log gives no mentiona at all about screen 1 just 0
[06:38] <vorbote> b14ck73425, simple. Activate the universe and multiverse repositories, andu use syhnaptic, apt-get or aptitude, your choice.
[06:38] <Bonez56> cox: check your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure there's no stray sources in there. comment them out and then do apt-get update. use the official ubuntu repos only.
[06:38] <fishy> oskude: Maybe my apt broke here. I haven't been able to install anything because of the dependencies problem.
[06:38] <oskude> fishy: im using de repos, they seem to have problems, just wait a sec (or two :)
[06:38] <Cntryboy> If I glxinfo | grep direct and it says direct rendering no, how can I get it to say yes?
[06:38] <stefg> !easysource > cox
[06:39] <Bonez56> !easysource > Bonez56
[06:39] <andre_> Cntryboy: load the dri module in xorg.conf ?
[06:39] <oskude> fishy: do "sudo apt-get update" and see if you get errors, i do.
[06:39] <Cntryboy> andre: care to give me an example of the line I add and where
[06:39] <oskude> fishy: or try another repo
[06:39] <b14ck73425> they arent there
[06:39] <andre_> 'Load "dri" in the module section
[06:40] <andre_> along with all the other load statements
[06:40] <Cntryboy> Load	"dri"
[06:40] <xed> is there a browser available for xubuntu, other than firefox?
[06:40] <Cntryboy> it says that
[06:40] <xed> I think firefox is a bit of a resource hog on this old machine
[06:40] <Jukru> xed: links
[06:40] <stefg> !opera > xed
[06:41] <fishy> oskude: How do I try another repo?
[06:41] <oskude> !repos
[06:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:41] <vorbote> Cntryboy, if you have a recent ATI or Nvidia card you want obtain accelaration suppport unless you install propietary drivers (a.k.a binary blobs). Dri has nothing to do with it (the FOSS dri dirvers simply don't support post 1992 AT/Nvidia cards, blame the vendors).
[06:41] <fishy> !easysource
[06:41] <xed> stefg: Opera is also a bit of a resource hog, no?
[06:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:42] <fishy> oskude: I get errors on apt-get update.
[06:42] <vorbote> Cntryboy, s/you want/tou won't/
[06:42] <Cntryboy> vorbote: so in lamin terms I can't?
[06:42] <Cntryboy> right
[06:42] <Bonez56> 6c
[06:42] <b14ck73425> all i can get is the 0.8 plugin
[06:42] <stefg> xed: then take links2 or w3m :-) opera is the lifhetst graphical browser available
[06:42] <elkbuntu> xed, depends how feature-full you want the browser to be, epiphany is a smaller gecko browser, dillo is about as light as you can go and still be in gui
[06:42] <oskude> fishy: yup, here too. which repo do you use ? i use de...
[06:42] <vorbote> Cntryboy, in layman terms, you certainly can but you'oll have to jump though hoop.s See the wiki.
[06:42] <elkbuntu> stefg, wrong, dillo is lighter ;)
[06:42] <xed> elkbuntu: what is this "gecko" and "dillo" you speak of?
[06:43] <bthornton> Anyone having a problem with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS where the GNOME panels become unresponsive (i.e. on logout, or moving a panel, or when applications are added/removed)?
[06:43] <xed> !dillo
[06:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about dillo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:43] <stefg> elkbuntu: ok.. point goes to you :-D
[06:43] <Cntryboy> what is direct rendering for exactly? Mine used to say yes.. when I had ubuntu, i'm on kubuntu now
[06:43] <fdgfd> hi there
[06:43] <elkbuntu> xed, gecko is the engine that firefox runs on, so epiphany is sort of a baby version of firefox. Dillo is basically the lightest graphical browser you can get
[06:43] <Cntryboy> vorbote: not sure if it helps, but I have a geforce fx 5500
[06:44] <Cntryboy> so it's not recent lol
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> has anyone in here successfully installed the binary nvidia drivers *with* the control panel applet that comes with nvidia?
[06:44] <xed> elkbuntu: and where do about getting this 'dillo' ?
[06:44] <oskude> elkbuntu: links2 ? ;)
[06:44] <Apeiron> hey all :) maybe someone can help me to get the "savage" driver to work? i cant get any higher resolutions than 640 if i activate savage in my xorg.conf...
[06:44] <vorbote> Cntryboy, best way is to read the wiki.
[06:44] <fishy> oskude: I'm not sure which repo I'm using...
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> ah nevermind, forgot to install it *slap*
[06:44] <xuxa_> I've just burned a powerpc cd for my friend's iBook.  Do we need to hold down a key during boot to get it to boot from CDROM?
[06:45] <elkbuntu> oskude, wouldnt know, does it render images?
[06:45] <oskude> fishy: you see it on the output of apt-get update (and they are definied in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[06:45] <oskude> elkbuntu: hmm, dunno. gotta test
[06:45] <Gassed> hi
[06:45] <oskude> elkbuntu: damn, cant install links2 as de.archive... has problems :/
[06:45] <Gassed>  can someone help me compile Qtella?
[06:45] <Cntryboy> vorbote: how do I see the wiki url
[06:45] <b14ck73425> if i cant find gstreamer-0.10 plugins in synaptic where can i get them
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> can someone recommend a visual rsync tool?
[06:46] <vorbote> Cntryboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[06:46] <elkbuntu> oskude, well, dillo is the default browser in Damn Small Linux, so i guess it's fairly decent and light
[06:46] <Cntryboy> thx
[06:46] <Gassed>  can someone help me compile Qtella?
[06:46] <caonex> I have an hp zv6000 and I have had to use my laptop video card with system memory, despite the fact that it has built-in memory. Whenever I used the built-in memory X would not start, and basically the computer will freeze. Also, fglrx seems to work when using system memory but i have no 3d acceleration.
[06:46] <elkbuntu> xed dillo is in universe
[06:47] <oskude> elkbuntu: yup, its very light, but links2 is more lighter, but dunno about usability...
[06:47] <Azzco> Hi I've got a little problem on my hands...I've got a i915 chipset in my hands and can't seem to get any direct rendering.. does anyone know what could be done?
[06:47] <caonex> The only way i can get some acceleration is by running programs such as fgl_gears with options such as -fbo but then other programs dont use those options and dont work
[06:47] <xed> elkbuntu: noob here, so I'm just goign to pretend like you understand..
[06:47] <caonex> any ideas?
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> Azzco: read the wiki guide?
[06:47] <elkbuntu> !universe
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:47] <fishy> oskude: I'm not sure what repo I'm using...doesn't say anything.
[06:47] <elkbuntu> xed --^
[06:47] <xed> elkbuntu: does dillo have macromedia flash, adobe acrobat reader, and java support?
[06:48] <Gassed>  can someone help me compile Qtella?
[06:48] <elkbuntu> xed, no.. opera is as light as you will go for those
[06:48] <xed> opera it is
[06:48] <elkbuntu> !opera
[06:48] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[06:48] <xed> Opera is lighter than Firefox?
[06:48] <Azzco> fyrestrtr: I've been reading alot...might have been that I've missed something...is it a common problem?
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> opera = light? surely you jest.
[06:48] <elkbuntu> xed, somewhat
[06:48] <oskude> fishy: huh? look in /etc/apt/sources its the XX.archive.ubuntu.com, where i have XX as de
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> Azzco: well once you get the drivers going, and then install 915resolution, things tend to work out.
[06:48] <cox> hey why my file that name is "lock" in the directory  /var/lib/apt/lists/ is not availible for me
[06:48] <Minty> Hello
[06:48] <cox> i dont have root only  user
[06:48] <xed> fyrestrtr: what would you say is lighter than Opera?
[06:49] <Gassed> Minty: Who are you really?
[06:49] <Azzco> fyrestrtr: I'll get back to the reading a bit then ;)
[06:49] <xed> It says to look in Applications -> Add/Remove.. but I have no idea where that is
[06:49] <eggzeck> cox, use 'sudo'
[06:49] <Guest477>  is anyone using kubuntu or edubuntu able to use java in an environment like yahoo games? i have repeated and unsuccesfully beaten this to a pulp... note that under this installation of ubuntu i am able to properly access most java based resources
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> well anything (except, maybe firefox).
[06:49] <oskude> fi.archive.ubuntu.com works, didnt expect anything else ;)
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> Azzco: make sure you are reading the right one.
[06:49] <grampajoe> Does anyone know the syntax for uploading a file with gphoto2?
[06:49] <elkbuntu> xed, the applicatiosn button is the one that says 'applications' next to the ubuntu logo on the taskbar
[06:49] <AlBaloushi> hello guys
[06:49] <Minty> How do i delete a folder that is locked I have tried sudo rm name of folder but as there are spaces in the name I get a message saying file not found
[06:49] <Azzco> fyrestrtr: yeah that's the hard part ^^
[06:49] <Minty> Gassed: what do you mean ??
[06:50] <xed> elkbuntu: I got that much.. I click on it.. and whatnot.. but where does it say "Add/Remove..."; no where!
[06:50] <Gassed> Minty: Do I know you?
[06:50] <AlBaloushi> guys i just want to knowis it possible for me to run my bluetooth in ubuntu
[06:50] <fishy> oskude: I have "http://archive.ubuntu.com/"
[06:50] <elkbuntu> xed it -should- say it immediately below it
[06:50] <Apeiron> can someone help me getting a higher resolution in xorg? I cant get any higher resolution than 640 since i use the "savage" driver
[06:50] <Minty> Gassed: dont know that the problem with loggin names :)
[06:50] <xed> elkbuntu: In Xubuntu?
[06:50] <Gassed> Minty: Ok
[06:50] <vmlemon> The Ctrl+Alt+F1-F7 thing doesn't work for me anymore :(
[06:50] <eggzeck> Minty, just type some of the file name 'name' then hit tab: 'name<tab>'
[06:51] <oskude> fishy: oh :) that a good question, what repos does that use... or maybe its its own repo... but as i said fi.archive.ubuntu.com works
[06:51] <elkbuntu> xed, i wouldnt know, i dont use xubuntu, you're goig to have to wait for someone else, or join #xubuntu
[06:51] <eggzeck> Minty, generally any file name that has spaces must be escaped. The spaces I mean
[06:51] <Gassed>  can someone help me compile Qtella?
[06:51] <eggzeck> Minty, example: my\ file
[06:52] <AlBaloushi> guys i just want to knowis it possible for me to run my bluetooth in ubuntu it works fine on my otehr box which has windows xp
[06:52] <GTX> Is it possible to put 2 screens together on ubuntu like you can extend them on windows?
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> GTX: yes
[06:52] <GTX> how fyrestrtr
[06:52] <xed> xubuntu it is!
[06:52] <fishy> oskude: So I should add "deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe
[06:52] <fishy> deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe" to my /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[06:52] <Minty> eggzeck: I am right in that its sudo rm ??
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> using xinerama or if you have nvidia, twinview.
[06:52] <oskude> elkbuntu: links2 (with -g) does show images
[06:52] <Cntryboy> vorbote: I have a question what is direct rendering exactly is that for 3d? I was in xgl interface and thats prob. why it said no, I'm in regular kde now and it says yes.
[06:53] <oskude> fishy: yup, works here
[06:53] <Enverex> XGL doesn't support Direct Rendering
[06:53] <elkbuntu> oskude, cool
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> Azzco: read this one > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver#head-6fcd801a3621b9769f7bf9f48fa4e3ad6e256654
[06:53] <Minty> and do I need to Cd to the folder that the folder is in ??
[06:53] <Enverex> (DirectRendering is basically 3D support)
[06:53] <derekS> so no one has trouble using ubuntu+ssh+mutt+screen?
[06:53] <oskude> fishy: i made a backup of the old sources.list first
[06:53] <GTX> fyrestrtr, Where I get twinview from
[06:53] <Cntryboy> okay thought so
[06:53] <Cntryboy> enverex: so that's why my games craches in xgl right?
[06:53] <Cntryboy> crashes
[06:54] <eggzeck> Minty, you only need sudo if you don't have permission to rm the file
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> GTX: if you have an nvidia card, install the binary drivers first -- then you'll get it. Its just a matter of setting up your screens after that :)
[06:54] <oskude> elkbuntu: but dillo is more userfriendly, so please keep on recommeding that :)
[06:54] <xed> xubuntu is dead... =(
[06:54] <eggzeck> Minty, no, rm /path/to/dir
[06:54] <xed> Who can tell me if I can force my resolution/refresh rate a bit...?
[06:54] <fuoco> should i manually configure xorg.conf in ubuntu ?
[06:54] <GTX> fyrestrtr, Im using the nvidia-glx drivers right now? do i have to undo that and crap?
[06:54] <eggzeck> Minty, you will need the -r option
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> xed: don't recommend it. Forcing refresh rates can damage your video equipment.
[06:55] <oskude> fuoco: i do it manually allways... but you dont have to
[06:55] <eggzeck> xed, You can do it, but it's not recommended
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> GTX: no, just install the control panel and set it up there.
[06:55] <Enverex> xed: Erm, do you mean ones it supports but don't show up or ones that it isn't really capable of?
[06:55] <cox> i was trying to install gcc and i get this : configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[06:55] <fishy> oskude: I still get an infinite list of dependencies.
[06:55] <fuoco> oskude: i don't have 3d support out of the box...
[06:55] <cox> what to do
[06:55] <GTX> fyrestrtr, What control panel?
[06:55] <cox> ?
[06:55] <Cntryboy> Enverex: did ya catch my last line I typed to u?
[06:55] <Minty> eggzeck: did CD and now have message  'Is a directory'
[06:55] <cox> plz  hel
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> cox: don't install it -- sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:55] <oskude> fuoco: whats your card ?
[06:55] <elkbuntu> oskude, i see what you mean about repos being wonky... im getting <10kb/s on a 1.5mb line here
[06:55] <XplOzIon> how do i make a symlink like this. i want this folder "/home/user1/downloads/" to see whats inside several folders, for example whats in "/home/downloads/apps/" and /home/ftp/apps/"
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> GTX: the nvidia control panel, search for it in synaptic.
[06:55] <cox> hmmm
[06:55] <XplOzIon> clear
[06:55] <fuoco> oskude: r300
[06:55] <cox> ok
[06:56] <xed> Enverex: the first one.. the ones it supports but don't show up
[06:56] <gebruiker> i set a passwd for root, how can I revert back to the default one(that root didn't have a passwd)..
[06:56] <Enverex> Cntryboy, probably yes
[06:56] <oskude> fuoco: hmm, radeon should work (as i heard) out of the box... but r300 has experimental 3d hw accel
[06:56] <Minty> eggzeck: done the -r worked a treat :), many thanks
[06:56] <GTX> fyrestrtr, nvidia-xconfig?
[06:56] <Cntryboy> enverex: I've seen samples of xgl where they play quake 3 though
[06:56] <Enverex> xed, erm, go into your xorg.conf file and remove the MODES lines
[06:56] <Cntryboy> thats what confuses me
[06:56] <zalmoxes> is there a bandwidth cap on ubuntu?
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> GTX: yes, and nvidia-settings
[06:56] <oskude> fishy:  sudo apt-get install python-gtk2-dev works here
[06:56] <fuoco> oskude: it worked for me for a very long time in other distros
[06:56] <xed> Enverex: where is this xorg.conf file you speak of?
[06:57] <GTX> fyrestrtr, nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx..
[06:57] <XplOzIon> how do i make a symlink like this. i want this folder "/home/user1/downloads/" to see whats inside several folders, for example whats in "/home/downloads/apps/" and /home/ftp/apps/"
[06:57] <GTX> and so does nvidia-xconfig
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> GTX: hrmm, that's strange. Maybe they are two different drivers.
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> GTX: read the wiki.
[06:57] <oskude> fuoco: sorry im bad with radeon driver, i allways used fglrx driver :/
[06:57] <fishy> oskude: Well, I'm giving up. I should reinstall Ubuntu or get a Mac. This problem is just not worth fixing.
[06:57] <GTX> fyrestrtr, Ive read just about everywhere ;\
[06:57] <oskude> fishy: aha ...
[06:57] <zalmoxes> is there a bandwidth cap on ethernet adapters on ubuntu?
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: rendering is possible in xgl.
[06:57] <Pikciurna> How to enable 3 settings in ubuntu kernel?
[06:58] <fuoco> oskude: i just wonder if i should configure it manually or expect ubuntu to do it ?
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> zalmoxes: You mean the Ubuntu website or the OS?
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> zalmoxes: most definately not :)
[06:58] <zalmoxes> OS
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[06:58] <zalmoxes> fyrestrtr: ok
[06:58] <oskude> fuoco: i just apt-get installed the fglrx driver and changed that as driver in xorg.conf
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> GTX: give me a few minutes, I'm going to setup the same thing on my nvidia box.
[06:58] <GTX> kk fyrestrtr
[06:58] <Enverex> xed: /etc/X11/
[06:59] <zalmoxes> i am just getting low internet speed as compared to when i connect it to my other desktop
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> GTX: reinstalling dapper after someone -- who shall remain nameless, but you know who you are you prick -- though it would be cute to install kororaa on my machine "to see the cool xgl stuff".
[07:00] <xed> Enverex: You want me to REMOVE the Modes lines?!
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> when I had it all the time on the dapper install.
[07:00] <xed> Enverex: Is taht a good idea?
[07:00] <Bonez56> rofl I live less than a mile from the AU ubuntu mirror and I still only get 300k/sec... :(
[07:00] <flodine> so is ubuntu the best linux os right now?
[07:00] <GTX> fyrestrtr, ??? whats that about? im lost
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> GTX: nevermind, just venting.
[07:00] <oskude> Bonez56: :) i get full 2mbit from fi and im very long away from there...
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Bonez I had better luck with non-american servers.  It is a Gates conspiracy.
[07:01] <beerfan> anyone using Quod Libet? any suggestions for making it work?
[07:01] <Enverex> xed: just put # at the start of those lines
[07:01] <Bonez56> oskude: unfortunately internet speeds in australia are something to laugh about... many people only have 512/128k connections
[07:01] <xed> Enverex: All of those that start with "Modes" right?
[07:02] <Enverex> Xed: Yeah
[07:02] <ana_> hola
[07:02] <Apeiron> cmon, cant anyone help me with my xorg problem? if i use savage as driver i cant get any resolution higher than 640, and with vesa as driver gnome wont even start up
[07:02] <Pikciurna> How to enable a few settings in ubuntu kernel?
[07:02] <Bonez56> Pikciurna: what settings?
[07:02] <dr_willis> Pikciurna,  i would guess - it depends on the settings. :)
[07:02] <Enverex> xed: Actually, erm, what is your card?
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: *only* -- lol don't laugh. Its worse here.
[07:02] <Pikciurna> pppoe
[07:02] <Bonez56> fyrestrtr: what country are you in?
[07:03] <zalmoxes> flodine: i guess, ubuntu is the best after trying suse10, suse10.1, xubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntu. all this on an ancient laptop.
[07:03] <dr_willis> pppoe would be a moduel you can load ain tit?
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> Kuwait -- where for the past 5 days, the international fiber link has been cut "accidentally" -- don't know HOW since its freakin' submarine.
[07:03] <Pikciurna> not module
[07:03] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  sawfish. :P
[07:03] <Pikciurna> i need recompile kernel i think
[07:03] <dr_willis> or it got cut where it came ashore.
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> the entire country is on satellite backup.
[07:03] <Pikciurna> but dont know how ;(
[07:04] <xed> Enverex: 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach64 GX]  (rev 01
[07:04] <dr_willis> !pppoe
[07:04] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[07:04] <dr_willis> How about look there first. :P
[07:04] <Pikciurna> i have looked
[07:04] <Enverex> xed: Should work with those lines commented out, it will autodetect them
[07:04] <Bonez56> fyrestrtr: wow satellite backup... that would suck :(
[07:04] <flodine> zalmoxes suse 10.1 is good runs good on my 64 bit emt
[07:04] <xed> Enverex: After I comment the lines out, should I restart the machine?
[07:04] <XplOzIon> how do i make a symlink like this. i want this folder "/home/user1/downloads/" to see whats inside several folders, for example whats in "/home/downloads/apps/" and /home/ftp/apps/"
[07:04] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  you dont.
[07:05] <flodine> zalmoxes you tried sled 10
[07:05] <Pikciurna> but in order to setup interent connection i need to enable ppp, atm settings
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: aye, and even when its not on backup -- internet access prices here are -- rediculous. We pay $7,500 for 512/256 DSL
[07:05] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  there is a 'fuse' user file system that can make it work that way.. but it will take some reading/learning.
[07:05] <XplOzIon> dr_willis can link 2 folders?
[07:05] <XplOzIon> dr_willis how about simple folder links?
[07:05] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  you dont 'layer' 2 directories with  soft or hard links.
[07:05] <Pikciurna> do anybody know how to recompile kernel?
[07:05] <dr_willis> you can easially link one dir, some where else.
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> !kernel
[07:05] <Amaranth> !kernel
[07:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:05] <Bonez56> fyrestrtr: that is insane. i won't complain anymore :) I have 4000/800kbps for $69 AUD per month
[07:05] <zalmoxes> flodine: sled 10?
[07:05] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  check out the 'ln -s' command.
[07:05] <Pikciurna> its to confusing ;(
[07:05] <XplOzIon> dr_willis i see, i been trieing
[07:05] <zalmoxes> flodine: whats that?
[07:06] <XplOzIon> dr_willis gonna try thansk a lots
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: that's per year, mind you -- and I had to bargain that price out.
[07:06] <flodine> zalmoxes  novell new nld desktop 10
[07:06] <Pikciurna> i only now ho to recompile kernel from kernel.org
[07:06] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  it pays to spend an hr or 2 reading a few linux/bash tutorials :)
[07:06] <Amaranth> Pikciurna: Notice "You shouldn't have to compile one"
[07:06] <XplOzIon> dr_willis hehehe i been reading too ;-P
[07:06] <Pikciurna> but how to enable these settings in kernel??
[07:06] <Bonez56> fyrestrtr: wow $625 per month just for 512... ouch] 
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: iirc, the most expensive internet access is in Saudi -- where its $1/minute (tariff) in addition to the normal internet access charge (which is again, per minute)
[07:06] <Enverex> xed, No, just restart X
[07:07] <Amaranth> Pikciurna: what settings?
[07:07] <flodine> zalmoxes  im tring to find reason to leave suse 10.1 but cant find one
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: yah, so quit yer  wining :P
[07:07] <XplOzIon> dr_willis: thanks! your the man!!
[07:07] <Bonez56> fyrestrtr: it would hardly even be worth it for that price. much cheaper just to go outside and play :)
[07:07] <xed> Enverex: and I do this how?
[07:07] <Pikciurna> Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM), PPP (point-to-point protocol) support, PPP over ATM
[07:07] <Pikciurna> how to enable these??
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: yeah, or send carrier pigeons
[07:08] <zalmoxes> flodine: i am actually using ubuntu on a pentium4 196 ram laptop, suse is too slow on this
[07:08] <xed> Enverex: I restarted the machine..and I still only see 640 by 480 resoluation available at 61Hz
[07:08] <xed> Enverex: No other resolutions available
[07:08] <Amaranth> Pikciurna: I dunno.
[07:08] <fuoco> is there an app that can be used to encode video files under gnome ?
[07:08] <flodine> zalmoxes  yeah i understand im rolling with 64 bit and 10,000 sata with suse
[07:08] <MZM> how can I compile src deb with same options as for binary + another one?
[07:09] <xed> Enverex: I am using Xubuntu, and to change my resolution I click on Applications > Settings > Display Settings
[07:09] <Pikciurna> i am starting to think that it is impossible to change ubuntu kernel settings :(((
[07:09] <Amaranth> Pikciurna: I haven't messed with my kernel since 2.4
[07:09] <Apeiron> flodine well, the better package management would be a reason for me, i think
[07:09] <Amaranth> Pikciurna: It's not impossible
[07:09] <Amaranth> !kernel
[07:09] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:09] <Timmy|GDS> yo booboo!
[07:09] <oskude> fuoco: transcode is powerfull, but allso little complicated (if you dont know about video)
[07:09] <Amaranth> read the link ubotu just said
[07:09] <zalmoxes> flodine: i actually find suse has a lot of extra stuff, which i dont ever need
[07:09] <Bonez56> brb smoko
[07:09] <Pikciurna> i have read it many times
[07:09] <Pikciurna> but it didint helped
[07:10] <flodine> Apeiron everything i install in ubuntu is already in suse
[07:10] <Myrth> hi, i'm trying to enter into maintenance mode on ubuntu, and it asks me root password to proceed, but i thought ubuntu doesn't have root password?
[07:10] <zalmoxes> flodine: it hurts when you have a 20gig HD
[07:10] <fuoco> oskude: yeah that why i thought of a gui... transcode is different than mancoder ?
[07:10] <fuoco> mencoder*\
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> Myrth: its a bug, unfortunately
[07:10] <Myrth> so how do i get into maintenance mode?
[07:10] <danielknobe> the passwort of your useraccount is the pwasswort
[07:10] <Amaranth> MZM: If you mean adding options to ./configure you have to edit the debian/rules file inside the package.
[07:10] <flodine> Apeiron package install easy with smart
[07:10] <Apeiron> flodine: its long ago i used suse, but i remember i had many problems to install software, i had to search tons of depency and software packages and install them one by one by hand
[07:11] <danielknobe> otherwise create u a passwort with sudo
[07:11] <Myrth> danielknobe: only when you sudo
[07:11] <oskude> fuoco: dunno about mencoder, but i remember seeing a transcode gui, sec...
[07:11] <danielknobe> sudo -passwd
[07:11] <Myrth> danielknobe: for that i'd have to enter my account, wouldn't i?
[07:12] <jonah1980> hi guys, getting this error but not seeing the duplication it's stating when opening the file up:  http://pastebin.ca/99785 can anyone help me out? thanks
[07:12] <Myrth> danielknobe: and i can't because i startup sequence dies on mysqld service
[07:12] <flodine> Apeiron think suse see how good ubuntu got it with installing stuff there getting it right with smart.
[07:12] <oskude> fuoco: huh... was for something else ;)
[07:12] <spiderworm> wierd problem here.... i had my headphones in when i turned on the computer, and now if i take out my headphones, music wont play through the speakers!
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> Myrth: for now, boot with the livecd and assign a root password, and then complain to the ubuntu devs
[07:12] <jonah1980> it's the duplicate source list bit i'm concerned about
[07:12] <spiderworm> is there a running sound daemon or device that i can somehow restart?
[07:12] <Myrth> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:12] <MZM> Amaranth: but for what configure-stamp stands for? (If i wanted to use plain ./configure, I would be still using Slackware ;) )
[07:12] <flodine> Apeiron dont get me wrong ubuntu is a min away from being install on my 64 bit box
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> spiderworm: you could restart alsa
[07:13] <Amaranth> MZM: I have no idea.
[07:13] <MZM> Amaranth:  tnx anyway
[07:13] <Amaranth> MZM: I'm saying you have to edit debian/rules to change the way it calls ./configure
[07:13] <flodine> zalmoxes  i cant even get ubuntu installed on my other intel 3.0 HT box wont boot after installing
[07:13] <Apeiron> flodine: and im a min away from re-installing gentoo on my machine.. since its impossible to get those savage driver to work :/
[07:13] <Amaranth> MZM: then run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc
[07:13] <XplOzIon> dr_willis is it really hard to link to see whats inside several folders?
[07:14] <flodine> Apeiron lol
[07:14] <flodine> Apeiron your not leaving ubuntu its to easy
[07:14] <MZM> Apeiron: Gentoo rocks. If it doesn't work on Gentoo, it would not work enywhere (almost)
[07:14] <Amaranth> XplOzIon: The hard part is linking two dirs to the same location and expecting it to merge the files of both.
[07:14] <spiderworm> fyrestrtr: how do i do that.... alsactl doesnt have a restart or a start option
[07:14] <Apeiron> flodine i encountered more problems since the install than with my whole live with gentoo...
[07:15] <Apeiron> MZM it worked fine on gentoo
[07:15] <flodine> Apeiron really
[07:15] <XplOzIon> Amaranth, the folders wont have same directories names if that matters
[07:15] <Amaranth> XplOzIon: That doesn't matter, you just can't do it.
[07:15] <mykilx> where is the setting to enable mouse scroll on the desktop changes workspaces?
[07:16] <Amaranth> XplOzIon: links don't work like that
[07:16] <Myrth> fyrestrtr: thanks, do you know good small livecd?
[07:16] <XplOzIon> Amaranth i see
[07:16] <Apeiron> is it only me or are the german ubuntu repositorys down?
[07:16] <flodine> Apeiron well i can say i can run both ubuntu and suse working fast with no problems on a intel duo emt board and chip
[07:17] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  i saw a way with that 'FUSE' (file system user space) tools that could do it.. but it took me an hr+ to get fuse working right. :P)
[07:17] <flodine> Apeiron so the ? now is whats the better OS
[07:17] <Apeiron> flodine i left gentoo on my laptop because it was annoying to compile evrything from source on a 1ghz machine with 128mb ram
[07:17] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  then theres the overlay filesystem feature some lvie cd's use..  but whats the point.
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> Myrth: the gentoo minimal install cd is like 64 megs
[07:17] <XplOzIon> dr_willis to be honest is will make a FTP server browse better
[07:18] <XplOzIon> dr_willis just click on apps and see what other users have in apps in just one folder
[07:18] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  You dont want to be doing the gimmicy things like that with a ftp server.
[07:18] <Apeiron> flodine the best os is the one which matches your needs most exactly, i think
[07:18] <flodine> Apeiron its like when i run suse i miss ubuntu and when i run suse i miss ubuntu im inlove with them both
[07:18] <dr_willis> sounds luike a BIG way to get some secuity odditoes/issues/exploits
[07:18] <Paddy_EIRE> which is the best dvd copying software for copying discs on the fly
[07:18] <danielknobe> a matter of taste
[07:19] <dr_willis> depends on what you mean by 'dvd' also. :)
[07:19] <XplOzIon> dr_willis yeah i know but i was thinking that could work and give user an easy way to browse the ftp
[07:19] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  many ftp servers get set to ignore soft links as well.
[07:19] <XplOzIon> dr_willis yeah i seen it
[07:19] <dr_willis> make a dir thats a bunch of soft links to the other dirs.
 DVD as in anything thats on the dvd disc ,movies, music, data... whatever
[07:20] <flodine> Apeiron ubuntu seem a little flaky when running programs as when on suse seem more solid
[07:20] <XplOzIon> dr_willis yeah already working that way hehe
[07:20] <dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  backing up a DATA dvd - is a Much different task then backing up your copy of Debbie-Does-Datayona Video DVD.
[07:20] <XplOzIon> dr_willis you think there is a way to hide the path of the link?
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: gnomebaker
[07:20] <zalmoxes> flodine: i think the best 2 OS are ubuntu and suse atm. they are both very good.
[07:20] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  no idea - i dont use FTP. i perfer ssh.
[07:20] <danielknobe> whats up with superstable debian?
[07:21] <dr_willis> i can only think of a few cases where you have to use ftp  instead of SSH. :)
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> zalmoxes: don't know about suse, sure its pretty -- but man that rpm hell make me want to stick toothpicks in my eyes.
[07:21] <danielknobe> its very good too
[07:21] <XiXaQ> I've connected my mp3 player via usb. How do I use it as a harddisk?
[07:21] <zalmoxes> fyrestrtr: oh yes i forgot about the rpms
[07:21] <MrRio> I'm mounting a webdav share, but only root users can see it
[07:21] <XplOzIon> dr_willis yeah but the main problem are users... they pay for the services, i dont think they would like to use ssh hehe
[07:21] <Enverex> XiXaQ, If that's possible it should have appeared on the desktop or been assigned a /dev/sdX node
[07:21] <flodine> zalmoxes well your right but i got fedora on that intel HT and it is smoking everything work perfect even yum
[07:21] <seanh> Anyone come across this before---trying to install Dapper for a friend, on a new mid-spec laptop, and the live system runs so absurdly slow that it's just not reasonable to do the install. Takes about 1 hour to respond to the first question-choosing the language. The Breezy live CD is fine on the same laptop. Was considering trying a text mode install. What would be the best solution?
[07:22] <zalmoxes> fyrestrtr: now i remember why i switched to ubuntu
[07:22] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  with 'winscp3' the interface is identical to a ftp client.
[07:22] <MrRio> I have user in fstab
[07:22] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  so thats not really a good excuse. :) lol
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> seanh: sounds like a bad burn. Just went through that 20 minutes ago. A fresh burn solved that problem. For text mode installs, try the alternate cd.
[07:22] <flodine> zalmoxes folks forget about fedora but its good and got the new kernel when released
[07:22] <Enverex> Ok. I have two questions. One is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. Whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the other issue is what do I need to do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.
[07:22] <XplOzIon> dr_willis oh i see
[07:23] <XplOzIon> dr_willis you are the guru hehe
[07:23] <ku> !rpm
[07:23] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:23] <zalmoxes> seanh, does it really take an hour? cause mine is an ancient laptop, p4 with 196 ram
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: install laptop-mode
[07:23] <seanh> fyrestrtr - hmm.. it's a CD from shipit.I guess it could be a bad burn still
[07:23] <flodine> zalmoxes i wish ubuntu let you install the kernel like fedora does
[07:23] <dr_willis> theres priberly some other tools out to let ya view ssh under windows as well.
[07:23] <seanh> zalmoxes - it does not take anything like an hour usually
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> seanh: hrmm, you never know. I've had bad cds come in sealed packages before.
[07:24] <dr_willis> ive had bad cd's that some how got the lables on the data side. :)
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: lmao
[07:24] <zalmoxes> seanh, it is very slow on the live cd, but its ok after installation
[07:24] <seanh> fyrestrtr - right, I'll burn another. Do you know if the text mode install is any different than the live install in dapper? i.e. does it just install the standard desktop system like it used to in breezy?
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> seanh: yeah, its the same thing, only you get more options. I personally recommend it to everyone over the desktop cd.
[07:25] <XplOzIon> dr_willis sorry to keep bothering you but, is there a tool that will let me convert an NTFS hdd into FAT or EXT3 keeping whats is inside that hdd?
[07:25] <seanh> zalmoxes - no, this is definitely not a case of the live system simply being slow because of the laptop spec and cause it's running off the CD, there is a problem. It really did take an hour to select the language
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> XplOzIon: I can answer that -- nope :)
[07:25] <flodine> Apeiron ubuntu still has 2.6.15 kernel
[07:26] <XplOzIon> fyrestrtr, so i will lost everything
[07:26] <Apeiron> flodine uhm.. and?
[07:26] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  never noticed one. gparted can resize them..  thats what backups are for. :P and fileservers
[07:26] <ku> XplOzIon: I thought there was... can't Partition Magic do that?
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> XplOzIon: unless you back it up.
[07:26] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, didn't help
[07:26] <flodine> Apeiron just asking wasnt sure
[07:26] <Apeiron> flodine im not sure either
[07:26] <XplOzIon> thanks i was just curious
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: hrmmnn...worked out of the box here, what kind of computer do you have?
[07:27] <flodine> Apeiron are on ubuntu
[07:27] <Apeiron> flodine yes, its .15
[07:27] <zalmoxes> seanh: i actually had another problem with live cds, its to do with the burner used in the first place. that could be the problem
[07:27] <ku> I got into the confirmation page when I was trying to convert from NTFS to FAT32, and it gave me a warning regarding some files with asian language for titles, so I didn't go through with it as I have tons of japanese and korean files
[07:27] <seanh> Thanks fyrestrtr and zalmoxes, will burn another CD and see what happens
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> if you burn a livecd at a very high speed, sometime you get these slow livecds
[07:27] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, It's a P4 laptop
[07:27] <ku> So I was assuming that it would keep the files
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> seanh: make sure its on a 700 MB blank, not a 650 MB one.
[07:27] <seanh> zalmoxes - well, it was a shipit CD that I used, and right now I'm gonna try another burner, should get round that
 so say i wanna backup my dvd Movie an exact copy now, and i wanna do this on the fly as quickly as possible what would you recommend i use
[07:28] <grampajoe> Are there any Linux-based tools I can use to resize a video?
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: P4? or Centrino? Didn't think P4 supported freq scaling.
[07:28] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, P4 and it does
[07:28] <seanh> fyrestrtr - 700MB = 80 minutes?
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> seanh: yeah
[07:28] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:28] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, It worked fine in Gentoo, I just enabled the speed control options in the kernel before compiling
[07:29] <zerostarhx> Anyone availuble for a 1 on 1 chat about installing programs and some other general ubuntu talk?
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> hrmm -- dunno. What brand is it?
[07:29] <zalmoxes> seanh: i actually tried burning the same image with a newer burner and it works after that
[07:29] <MrRio> why can only root look at my mounted files?
[07:29] <rixxon> zerostarhx, installing a program is one command on ubuntu. sudo apt-get install NAME
[07:29] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: i may be able to help
[07:29] <MrRio> I've set 'user' in fstab
[07:29] <Apeiron> MrRio: use umask=000 as option
[07:30] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Sager (that's a rebrand though, Alienware also sold it at one point too under their own name). Model 5660.
[07:30] <AAA> MrRio  because the directory you mounted it too needs the perms changed
[07:30] <zerostarhx> I don't really understnad any of those terms lol I guess that's why I need help
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> do actual ubuntu (canonical) employees hang out here?
[07:30] <madman1234> i'm trying to rebuild the ffmpeg package and when i do apt-get build-dep ffmpeg i get: " Build-dependencies for ffmpeg could not be satisfied"
[07:30] <MFen> is "vmware-player-modules" the same as "install vmware tools" from the vmware menu?
[07:30] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: i dont mind a 1 on 1 chat
[07:30] <rixxon> fyrestrtr, notice the "official" in topic
[07:30] <MrRio> AAA: Unknown suboption umask=000
[07:30] <ccooke> is there any point to the gnome bluetooth manager?
[07:30] <zerostarhx> Ok opening a window
[07:30] <gebruiker> HOW DO I UPDATE MY KDE MENU?
[07:30] <MrRio> AAA: I'm mounting using davfs
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: ooh maan -- I know that beast. My friend has one. Heavy and Hot.
[07:31] <rixxon> gebruiker, sure you don't want #kubuntu ?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> rixxon: that didn't answer my question, but I would like to know if anyone knows of anyone that is canoncial employee :)
[07:31] <flodine> Apeiron when installing ubuntu again im no sure is it better to use the kernel-smp or just use 64 bit version of ubuntu
[07:31] <madman1234> is there an ffmpeg package that includes mp3 encoding?
[07:31] <MrRio> AAA: I changed chown to my username
[07:31] <AAA> MrRio  I don't use devfs, but I would check the perms on that dir ls -ld /mnt/dir and make sure other users can xr
[07:31] <rixxon> fyrestrtr, my point is, i bet if it is official, it isn't totally left to its own destiny
[07:31] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Yeah, with a battery life of a whole half of 10 minutes
[07:31] <flodine> Apeiron dont see any diffrence in speed
[07:31] <AAA> MrRio  pasted the perms
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: that's the one lol
[07:32] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:32] <MrRio> AAA: drwxrwxrwx  2 brightfive brightfive    4096 2006-07-25 17:57 webdav
[07:32] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Thing is, under Ubuntu the fan seems to be set on High almost constantly too
[07:32] <Myrth> fyrestrtr: downloaded DSL, but realized that i have root on LVM...
[07:32] <zerostarhx> Zalmoxes: did you get my message?
[07:32] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, (no CPU usage, just the damn fan)
[07:32] <MrRio> AAA: i have full read/write permissions, just cant see any of the files inside unless i'm root
[07:32] <Myrth> fyrestrtr: ubuntu livecd has lvm right?
[07:33] <Apeiron> flodine sry, i was afk.. i dont have any experience with 64 bit processors/OS
[07:33] <Enverex> gebruiker, It should be automati
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: hrmm, this sounds like a acpi issue, unfortunately, I wouldn't know where to start.
[07:33] <minerale> what is the package name for the windows fonts ?
[07:33] <AAA> MrRio  and that is while it is mounted? and you can't access with your user account?
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Myrth: I believe it does.
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> !info msfonts
[07:33] <ubotu> Package msfonts does not exist in dapper
[07:33] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: no
[07:33] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, The whole "moving icons on the desktop acts like control is held down the whole time" is annoying too
[07:33] <MrRio> AAA: when it's mounted i can see all the files as root, and nothing as normal user
[07:33] <zerostarhx> HMmmmm
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: is the keyboard stuck? Happens to my friend a lot.
[07:34] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, no, lol
[07:34] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: did you get my message?
[07:34] <minerale> !info msttcorefonts
[07:34] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[07:34] <zerostarhx> no x.x maybe i'm doing it wrong lol
[07:34] <AAA> MrRio  unmount the volume and then check the perms.  I don't use devfs so I really don't know.  Maybe something is missing in /etc/devfs.conf
[07:34] <MrRio> AAA: when I mount it, it is owned by root
[07:34] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: are you using gaim?
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: don't know man -- I throw some things out, but it would be pure guesses.
[07:34] <Enverex> Using 64bit speeds up things like en/decoding and en/decryption but little else. Using SMP on a Uniprocessor machine won't hurt but is also pointless
[07:35] <MrRio> AAA: the perms i posted before was on an unmounted folder
[07:35] <wheelchair> Lo there! I'm using 5.10 and I got a update notification. Where on the ubuntu site can I find the upgrade FAQ?
[07:35] <zerostarhx> yes
[07:35] <gebruiker> Enverex what should, the gtk look that matches mine qt look?
[07:35] <MrRio> AAA: when mounted it turns to drwx------  1 root       root           512 2006-07-25 16:36 webdav
[07:35] <Enverex> gebruiker, ... pardon?
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> however, using smp on a HT/dual core proc DOES help -- a LOT.
[07:35] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, shoot
[07:35] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Well duh
[07:35] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: you get my message now/
[07:36] <paulm> im using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to smoothly loop the song and extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?
[07:36] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:36] <AAA> MrRio  it is a devfs thing, and, like I said, I don't use devfs. check man devfs
[07:36] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, I didn't realise the other day but I was using the 386 Uniprocessor kernel on my Athlon64 X2 machine, switched to the K7 SMP one and a nice boost came out of that, heh
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: well, first thing -- check acpi support and if the cpufreq_* modules are loaded or not (lsmod)
[07:36] <gebruiker>  Enverex I want to match my qt look to gtk applications...
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: lol
[07:36] <Enverex> gebruiker, ah, 1 sec
[07:36] <zerostarhx> Zalmoxes, I think it's because i'm not registered
[07:37] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, acpi seems to be loaded and the scaling modules
[07:37] <zalmoxes> do you have to be registered to send private messages?
[07:37] <Enverex> zalmoxes, yes
[07:37] <zerostarhx> i believe so
[07:37] <paulm> im using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to smoothly loop the song and extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?
[07:37] <zalmoxes> i didnt know i was registered?
[07:38] <zalmoxes> i have been sending private messages all this time
[07:38] <zerostarhx> if you use AIM with GAIM you can send me a message on "zomfglolz"
[07:38] <Guest477> many times i have read or been told that sun-java is in repos>> could i get the address of the repository(s) that hold said java and plugins?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> !java
[07:38] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:38] <zerostarhx> so you could send me a message that way
[07:38] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: ok
[07:38] <Guest477> what is the address of multiverse?
[07:39] <Guest477> that i may verify accuracy
[07:39] <Enverex> gebruiker, gtk-engines-qtpixmap should work
[07:39] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, acpi seems to be loaded and the scaling modules as well as ACPI itself...
[07:40] <dr_willis> there have been some issues with some of the servers the last few days. :)
[07:40] <dr_willis> !easysource
[07:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:40] <paulm> im using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to smoothly loop the song and extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?
[07:40] <JoeUK> is there a Linux equiv. to Active Desktop?
[07:40] <wims> whats active desktop again ?
[07:41] <JoeUK> ActiveDesktop
[07:41] <dr_willis> JoeUK,  you realize how nasty ActiveDesktop under windows was dont ya? :)
[07:41] <JoeUK> it allows you in Windows to include webpages in your desktop
[07:41] <minerale> how do I open the 'run' dialogue ?
[07:41] <AAA> anyone know a good app for taking a /dir/of/pics and creating a dvd slideshow/movie ?
[07:41] <Enverex> ... yes we know the word, what does it mean? lol
[07:41] <Enverex> heh
[07:41] <jpatota> the sparc server install of 6.06, does it have memtest installed
[07:41] <jpatota> or can you install memtest
[07:41] <JoeUK> im just writing an article on www.lifehacker.com
[07:41] <dr_willis> JoeUK,  theres the various desklets that let ya do a lot of those eye-candy features.
[07:41] <minerale> ie, if I want to run klipper without starting and killing an xterm window
[07:41] <JoeUK> i mean
[07:41] <JoeUK> is it possible to include HTML on your desktop?
[07:42] <mnp> is there a way to have a static terminal window at the bottom of the desktop so i dont have to use my mouse as much?
[07:42] <paulm> im using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?
[07:42] <dr_willis> JoeUK,   it would proberly be some other appluication tha tdid it. not really a feature of 'linux or X" - and no - i cant recall seeing it done.
[07:42] <dr_willis> JoeUK,  ya could proberly do it if you really wanted to. dependong on the window manager.
[07:42] <Enverex> paulm, Try Audacity
[07:42] <Apeiron> JoeUK im pretty sure some of those file/desktop managers konqueror, nautilus or rox can do that
[07:42] <dr_willis> JoeUK,  freshmeat.net - would be a place to search.
[07:43] <paulm> Enverex does that convert files too?
[07:43] <cart> Hi ppl, i try to setup my desktop with xinerama, but when i put the BIOS to init in the PCI card, ubuntu dont initialize with a kernel panic, and digging i discover that the command udevplug in /etc/init.d/udev that throws the kernel panic... anyone has been throught this?
[07:43] <Enverex> paulm, It's an audio editor, so yes
[07:43] <dr_willis> Apeiron,  :) ive not noticed that. Then again with the KDE and gnome taking over the desktop so much.. i cant even run xearth :)
[07:43] <Apeiron> dr_willis: xearth?
[07:43] <paulm> Enverex thanks, i'll give that a go
[07:43] <AAA> mnp  you can run eterm with and -rootwin switch (or similar) and it will run in the root window where ever you tell it
[07:43] <JoeUK> here's one
[07:43] <JoeUK> http://deskroot.sourceforge.net/
[07:44] <dr_willis> Apeiron,  puts a animated globe as the wallpaper.
[07:44] <Enverex> paulm, If that doesn't work, do a Google search for something to convert that m4a to wave (the original encoder should be able to do that) then use any of the million programs to encode it to MP3
[07:44] <Apeiron> dr_willis: lol
[07:44] <Enverex> JoeUK, You're the one that wanted them, not us :P
[07:44] <danielknobe> is here somebody how is a developer in C++???
[07:44] <AAA> mencoder does m4a --> mp3
[07:45] <dr_willis> Apeiron,  then ya got the other old-skool apps like xroach and that xpenguins
[07:45] <skavenge> xroach is awesome too bad it doesnt work with gnome/kde
[07:46] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: are you there?
[07:46] <Apeiron> e17 has some really cool features for the rootwindow :)
[07:46] <dr_willis> skavenge,  it can work - if you tell gnome/kde to allow it.
[07:46] <skavenge> dr_willis: is it difficult?
[07:46] <zalmoxes> zerostarhx: is there some kind of connection problem?
[07:46] <seanh> That's interesting, I just burned a fresh Desktop CD, and the live system is still running extremely slow. It seems the problem is with the laptop. Do you think it's safe to just do a text-mode install?
[07:46] <dr_willis> skavenge,  a check box some where that says "allow desktop applets to run' or somthing like that. :P so its trivial
[07:46] <zerostarhx> I'm messeging you on your icq no
[07:46] <zerostarhx> w
[07:46] <AAA> if you really want to tweak your desktop :: use fluxbox or enlightenment
[07:46] <steveire> roughly how long might it take for cds to be shipped to germany?
[07:47] <garar> hi
[07:47] <garar> where can i setup my tv-output?
[07:47] <detien> I installed automatix and now I cant find Panel menu->System Tools->Configuration Editor. HOw do I put Configuration Editor back into the menu?
[07:47] <dr_willis> garar,  depends on the video card for a start.
[07:47] <garar> dr_willis: nvidia geforce
[07:48] <dr_willis> garar,  i used the nvidia drivers then researched 'twinview' - not sure if theres any more friendly tools out for it at this time.
[07:48] <dr_willis> !tvout
[07:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about tvout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:48] <|mp|> strangely ipconfig (and the related gui tools) tells me that i have an IP address in the 169.254.x.x range, but the actual IP, which can be reached with ping and with ssh, is assigned sucessfully with DHCP from the router - anyone come across this issue?  AFAK, normally IPs in the 169.254 range are automatically assigned by the OS if *no* IP can be obtained from the DHCP server...
[07:48] <dr_willis> garar,  the ubuntu wiki&  forums  may be worth checking out.
[07:48] <BarryAllen> glxgears does not show the fps (and i ack glxgears is not a benchamark).... so, how can i see how much fps my vga is making?
[07:48] <skavenge> BarryAllen: glxgears -printfps
[07:48] <dr_willis> :)
[07:49] <BarryAllen> skavenge, nopz...
[07:49] <skavenge> works here, do it in a terminal
[07:49] <barrera> derwgggggggggggb
[07:49] <BarryAllen> marx@k2:~$ glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark -printfps
[07:49] <BarryAllen> marx@k2:~$
[07:50] <jrib> BarryAllen: it takes like 10 seconds
[07:50] <Paladine> !restricted
[07:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <skavenge> not .... smart ...
[07:50] <BarryAllen> jrib, ahhhh maybe, let me see
[07:50] <garar> dr_willis: forums from ubuntu.com
[07:50] <jrib> BarryAllen: and you only need one of the switches :)
[07:50] <danielknobe> blobby.sourceforge.net if u like blobby volley ;)
[07:50] <dr_willis> I think someone needs to go slap the glxgears maintainer.
[07:50] <detien> !automatix
[07:50] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:50] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[07:50] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:50] <BarryAllen> jrib, works tks :)
[07:51] <Enverex> Don't tell people to use Automatix
[07:51] <stefg> rather use easyubuntu
[07:51] <disposable_mike> i would discourage the usage of either of those...though, i am not the average user, i suppose
[07:51] <dr_willis> Or better - learn to do it yourself. :)
[07:51] <skavenge> amen
[07:51] <disposable_mike> hm....that wasn't supposed to rhyme :)
[07:52] <gatekeeper> rather use apt-get instal lol
[07:52] <dr_willis> apt-get install LearnToReadTheDocsAndWikiForumGuides
[07:52] <dr_willis> :)
[07:52] <usama> hi all
[07:52] <gatekeeper> dr_willis, I am with you :-)
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> hooooleeee crap!!!
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> had to put out a freakin' FIRE!!!
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> now I smell like barbecued meat.
[07:53] <dr_willis> Did ya Wee Wee on it?
[07:53] <BarryAllen> dr_willis, i think i know why glxgears is not a bench....
[07:53] <dr_willis> Food fire? Spray beer!
[07:54] <BarryAllen> dr_willis, marx@k2:~$ glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark -printfps
[07:54] <BarryAllen> 3406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 681.005 FPS
[07:54] <BarryAllen> 17798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3559.563 FPS
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> not food fire, paper fire.
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> less than 1ft from my main server.
[07:54] <BarryAllen> dr_willis, the window was em background :0
[07:54] <esodan> Hi! could any help me about how to configure a nvidia video adapter in a laptop to use a proyector. This is becouse I need reset the X server to allow the nvidia card to "find" the proyector, but the realy problem is: "I can't see any on the laptop screen, just in the image proyected"
[07:54] <dr_willis> BarryAllen,  so? :) it gave ya some fps.. ya can compare  how the system is affected by the window being in the front/back.
[07:54] <dr_willis> :)
[07:55] <BarryAllen> but is very "manipulable" to be serious
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: fps gets affected. Just try to drag or resize the gears window
[07:56] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  yea... so? :)
[07:56] <Minty> anyone know ho to get my 4 in 1 car reader to be seen, its built in to my lap top
[07:56] <paulm> !winw
[07:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about winw - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:56] <paulm> !wine
[07:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:56] <dr_willis> if i run stuff while running other benchmark programs - it will affect them also.
[07:56] <dr_willis> well bbl.
[07:56] <ardchoille> Anyone know an online tutorial for the import app?
[07:57] <MZM> !rtfm
[07:57] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:57] <dr_willis> work time... byee.
[07:57] <disposable_mike> i smell a wiki link....
[07:57] <sundin> hej?
[07:57] <sundin> hi*
[07:57] <usama> !wine > linuxboyfriend
[07:57] <ardchoille> hmm.. maybe it's imagemagick rather than import
[07:58] <sundin> can i turn of entering/leavingmsgs in xchat?
[07:58] <usama> !wine > usama
[07:58] <danielknobe> how can i install java, cant find the packages with apt
[07:58] <ardchoille> !java
[07:58] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:59] <usama> sudo apt-cache search java
[07:59] <danielknobe> its not available
[07:59] <sundin> thanks
[07:59] <danielknobe> the package is't available
[07:59] <dyn-afk> enable universe and multiverse repositories, then try again
[07:59] <dyn-afk> take a look @ link from ubotu
[07:59] <sundin> bbl
[07:59] <danielknobe> apt: can't find package
[07:59] <lamp420> hi all
[08:00] <Coffeegrinds> howdy\
[08:00] <MFen> the kernel-image source i downloaded for my kernel doesn't match my kernel
[08:00] <MFen> i'm trying to compile vmware-tools and it complains that 2.6.15-7 is not the same as 2.6.15-26-server
[08:00] <MFen> what can i do about that?
[08:00] <Enverex> erm... download the right one?
[08:01] <MFen> i did download the right one
[08:01] <lamp420> I'm trying to install a printer but no printer drivers or manufacturers show up in the new printer wizard., the boxes are blank. When I try to install the PPD it says that it's already installed.  Can anyone tell me why this is?
[08:01] <MFen> i did apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-26-server
[08:01] <gatekeeper> danielknobe, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:01] <MFen> and it downloads something with a different version
[08:01] <danielknobe> isnt it in multiverse?
[08:02] <beerfan> danielknobe, search for java from the "add/remove" application menu and check the "unsupported" box
[08:02] <Enverex> lamp420, download the foomatic stuff from synaptic
[08:02] <fo0bar> while the docs state that universe is not supported for security updates, does ubuntu release updates when they have time, or is universe completely ignored after release?
[08:02] <MFen> what's the correct way to install a preconfigured kernel source?
[08:02] <MFen> one that matches the running kernel, so i can build modules
[08:02] <lamp420> this is bs, I'm going to reboot into windows
[08:02] <kuckuck> hi there
[08:03] <ardchoille> Never mind, man display was what I needed :)
[08:03] <gatekeeper> danielknobe, if you are using firefox there is a package search in it
[08:03] <snim2> hi all ... I'm using Dapper Drake and need mogrify. It isn't installed, but if I do 'apt-get install imagemagick*' apt says that all my ImageMagick rpms are up to date. Any ideas?
[08:03] <Coffeegrinds> burnout's too lazy..
[08:03] <Guest477> in what path can i locate souces.list? please a direct answer :)
[08:03] <mattttttt> hmm
[08:03] <skavenge> Guest477: /etc/apt/
[08:03] <Guest477> tyvm
[08:03] <trappist> snim2: rpms?
[08:04] <snim2> Guest477 -- try 'locate sources.list'
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> snim2:  rpm's? what?
[08:04] <dyn-afk> :P
[08:04] <snim2> erm, packages?
[08:04] <trappist> snim2: imagemagick does come with mogrify.  I have it on my system.
[08:04] <Guest477> ty snim2
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> snim2: are you using Ubuntu?
[08:04] <Enverex> Ok. I have two questions. One is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. Whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the other issue is what do I need to do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.
[08:05] <gatekeeper> mattttttt, did you successfully install ubuntu?
[08:05] <m0gsi> Any one got knot 1 running in vmware yet?
[08:05] <Coffeegrinds> her'e a not so linuxy question.. I just got my vnc client up, I can access it via my windows laptop on my internal network via it's FQDN but sor some reason when i try from an outer network it just hangs
[08:05] <snim2> Pants!  Yes, I'm using Dapper. Seems that mogrify is installed on this machine, but it wasn't on my install @work. Sorry guys
[08:05] <Bonez56> Enverex: what sort of CPU do you have?
[08:05] <pike_> Coffeegrinds: port forwarding on router setup ?
[08:06] <Coffeegrinds> yup ..
[08:06] <trappist> Coffeegrinds: sounds like a firewall issue or a routing issue, or maybe the vnc server is listening on one device and not another
[08:06] <dxdemetriou> How can I disable in Dapper for Gnome that where trying to define one file? I have problem fro example if I download many avi files, and slows down the PC.
[08:06] <trappist> Coffeegrinds: you need to forward port 5901
[08:06] <jacko> how do i make X start with no window manager
[08:06] <snim2> dxd -- do you mean how do you get rid of the graphical session?:
[08:06] <jacko> so i can test something
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> dxdemetriou: what?
[08:07] <trappist> jacko: drop to a console by stopping your desktop manager, then just run 'X'
[08:07] <Coffeegrinds> port 5901? softwares tellin me 5900
[08:07] <jacko> trappist: huh?
[08:07] <snim2> Oh, you can do /sbin/telinit 3 which drops you into a non-X session then start X on it's own...possibly
[08:07] <ravenhvis_> upq
[08:07] <ravenhvis_> ups*
[08:07] <ravenhvis_> :s
[08:07] <trappist> jacko: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop... then run 'X'
[08:07] <stefg> !gr > dxdemetriou
[08:08] <danielknobe> how to install java jre
[08:08] <dxdemetriou> Jack_Sparrow, I don't understand exactly, but I see this problem when I have a binary file of .sub, and the nautilus trying to see it as text file. The other is when I download avi files
[08:08] <danielknobe> can't find the package
[08:08] <trappist> danielknobe: enable the multiverse repository in your sources.list
[08:08] <fiznut> Can anyone help me fix frostwire? The program runs, but the display starts whiting out spots and acting really strange, then it will pop up with an internal error of some sort that I can't read becasue the box is white
[08:08] <danielknobe> i have
[08:08] <pimeja> Where i can read about branches in ubuntu repository (dapper, main, universe and so on)? I used sometimes Debian before switched to Ubuntu and I have finded that Ubuntu havn't so many packages. Can i fix it? :) Thx.
[08:08] <Coffeegrinds> danielknobe do you have all the repositories you ned?
[08:08] <danielknobe> i have allready
[08:09] <trappist> danielknobe: then install sun-java5-jre
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dxdemetriou: you just mean they play solw?
[08:09] <dxdemetriou> Jack_Sparrow, No. While are downloading, I don't know what trying to do the nautilus, and the system slow down
[08:10] <Coffeegrinds> pimeja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> dxdemetriou: how much memory and how big is your swap partition
[08:11] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: i'm on the kubuntu live cd now
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to go in about 20 minutes, paying customers come first.. :)
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: did you ever get that partitioned?
[08:11] <gatekeeper> mattttttt, not gone for the hdd install then ? :-)
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> hey gk
[08:11] <dxdemetriou> Jack_Sparrow, 512mb ram and 1,2gb the swap. I will make some search for that, maybe will be the thumbnail that try to do for avis.
[08:11] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: not yet
[08:12] <Coffeegrinds> danielknobe: all you need to REALLY do is.. open synaptic, and click the search, .. type in sun-java and click find.. if you HAve the repository it WILL find it
[08:12] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: I still might do it, just need to figure it out...
[08:12] <jacko> ok then how do i make X start up a program
[08:12] <jacko> like aterm
[08:12] <gatekeeper> mattttttt, which bit?
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: If you sent half the time doing your backup as you have in here you would be done by now.
[08:13] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: 32
[08:14] <the_hammer> hi guys
[08:14] <Coffeegrinds> ok guys just have to get a plug out there for BUMPS. didn't write it, but damn if it didn't answer half the questions asked by new ubuntu users
[08:14] <xed2> hello all!
[08:14] <the_hammer> has anyone tried an eggdrop bot before?
[08:14] <xed2> can anyone throw me some advice at installing libavcodec2 ?
[08:14] <ZeZu> the_hammer, of course
[08:14] <xed2> boy am i have some trouble, even though referencing this page
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[08:14] <ZeZu> eggdrop is easy
[08:15] <the_hammer> zezu ya mines working fine
[08:15] <the_hammer> im just having a hard time figgering out how to add onto it
[08:15] <Coffeegrinds> danielknobe: you get java sorted out?
[08:15] <Myrth> if i'll pvremove -ff will it move all data to other physical volumes?
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> xedlooks more like you should go back to 32bit
[08:15] <ZeZu> add more bots and link them
[08:15] <ZeZu> add scripts or plugins
[08:16] <Myrth> anyone has experience with lvm?
[08:16] <xed2> Jack_Sparrow, go back to 32 bit? what do you exactly mean? sorry but yes im a linux noob on hand, im trying to install zoneminder on this system and libavcodec2 is the only package stopping me
[08:16] <danielknobe> what do u mean  coffeegrinds
[08:16] <the_hammer> i got a few addons and the way i been doing it is copying the addon scripts to eggdrop scripts folder and then adding the lines into eggdrop.conf and when bot loads up shows scripts loaded but they dont appear to do anything else
[08:17] <Coffeegrinds> danielknobe: did you manage to fine sun-java-jre?
[08:17] <Coffeegrinds> find
[08:17] <seanh> Here's an interesting message to see on boot, after rebooting following a server install - PCI: Failed to allocate memory resource. And its left me at a text prompt, instead of setting up the desktop system
[08:17] <ZeZu> prob vid card driver failure
[08:17] <ZeZu> check your log files
[08:17] <fit4lfe> http://pastebin.ca/99834
[08:17] <fit4lfe> my browsers keep crashing on me
[08:17] <the_hammer> zezu can u msg me?
[08:17] <seanh> ZeZu - where are the files?
[08:17] <fit4lfe> can someone check that error msg out
[08:17] <ZeZu> the_hammer, actually i'm about to leave sorry
[08:18] <the_hammer> ok
[08:18] <seanh> Do I have to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after a server install?
[08:18] <ZeZu> seanh, there are some ofthem in /var/log/*
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> seanh: try going into cmos/bios and setting the USB to 1.2 and not 2 (for testing only)
[08:18] <ZeZu> ah
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> 1.1
[08:18] <ZeZu> after server yes
[08:18] <uiaenrtd> what are these thingies that show cpu temperature etc?
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gdesklets
[08:19] <xed2>  PC/Health Status
[08:19] <xed2> in the bios at least
[08:19] <fit4lfe> http://pastebin.ca/99834
[08:19] <uiaenrtd> thx
[08:19] <fit4lfe> can someone check out that x-sever msg for me
[08:19] <Bonez56> i set up gdesklets ages ago but now i can't remember how to get the control panel up to add new ones.
[08:19] <fit4lfe> my browsers keep going down
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4lfe:  what were doing before it started having problems
[08:19] <seanh> ZeZu - that's handy, it can't find the package. I need to tell it to look at the CD somehow
[08:19] <Toge> hello
[08:19] <fit4lfe> just checked my gmail
[08:19] <ZeZu> heh
[08:19] <fit4lfe> and then goes down
[08:19] <Toge> can I list my usb hardware?
[08:19] <ZeZu> if it was on the cd
[08:20] <ZeZu> then you could have installed it
[08:20] <danielknobe> @ coffee: i only search for java and to download it over apt. but i dont find it, and so i cant download it and i don't know what tto du now
[08:20] <ZeZu> its surely not on the cd
[08:20] <Bonez56> i set up gdesklets ages ago but now i can't remember how to get the control panel up to add new ones.
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Bonez: it should be in your pull down menus
[08:20] <fit4lfe> didn't open anything up page was up for a sec then crashed
[08:20] <ZeZu> thats why a lot of people are kindof pissed off w/ the server cd
[08:20] <Bonez56> Jack_Sparrow: there is an icon called gdesklets but when you click it nothing happens
[08:20] <ZeZu> why you think it was only like 400mb ?
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> or your pull ups.. but that can get personal
[08:20] <antares79> hello everyone... is there anyone else currently not able to connect to security.ubuntu.com via http? pinging works fine...
[08:20] <s_spiff> danielknobe, have u enabled all the repos?
[08:20] <seanh> ZeZu - the server CD was 698MB
[08:20] <livingdaylight> what does this mean?: Afterwards, a shell script called
[08:20] <livingdaylight> "cgoban" will be created. You may copy this shell script to any binaries
[08:20] <livingdaylight> directory you want and it will run cgoban out of this directory.
[08:20] <ZeZu> hmm
[08:20] <ZeZu> well i dunno
[08:20] <fit4lfe> anyone else having this problem
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Bonez: id remove and reinstall it to start with
[08:20] <ZeZu> but i used the other cd
[08:20] <livingdaylight> what is a binary?
[08:21] <fit4lfe> with x-server
[08:21] <fit4lfe> can't even check my email
[08:21] <seanh> ZeZu - I have a desktop CD too, just need to find the repositories file
[08:21] <fit4lfe> lol
[08:21] <livingdaylight> would /bin do it?
[08:21] <fit4lfe> with firefox or epiphany
[08:21] <fit4lfe> tried reinstalling them to
[08:21] <uiaenrtd> are gdesklets costly in startup time?
[08:22] <seanh> Can anyone help me with getting the desktop installed after a server CD install? Need to set the CD as repository then apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[08:22] <livingdaylight> what does binaries mean?
[08:22] <uiaenrtd> what do you think?
[08:22] <Toge> can you tell me how can I know what usb objects I have?
[08:23] <fit4lfe> jack_sparrow do you know what the problem could be
[08:23] <msouth> livingdaylight: I don't know the context, but that may just mean "copy this shell script to any directory in your path"
[08:23] <loopout4> Anyone up to helping me setup my internet connection?
[08:23] <fit4lfe> konquer works fine
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4lfe:  what were doing before it started having problems I didnt see your answer
[08:23] <fit4lfe> nothing I said
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4lfe:  INstall flash or something else multimedia
[08:23] <livingdaylight> msouth, i don't know what that means "directory in your path"
[08:23] <fit4lfe> I didn't install anything
[08:23] <msouth> do "echo $PATH" at a command prompt
[08:24] <fit4lfe> just firefox and epiphany
[08:24] <loopout4> Anyone want to help me setup my internet connection?
[08:24] <livingdaylight> msouth, "Afterwards, a shell script called
[08:24] <livingdaylight> "cgoban" will be created. You may copy this shell script to any binaries
[08:24] <livingdaylight> directory you want and it will run cgoban out of this directory.
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4lfe: very odd, no upgrades or changes?
[08:24] <minerale> I just setup my printer but when I print there's an offset, the printout is lower than it should be and it runs off the page, where can I tweak this ?
[08:24] <livingdaylight> msouth, would /bin do it?
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4lfe: Something caused it
[08:24] <loopout4> whizz - want to helpme setup my internet connect?
[08:24] <livingdaylight> msouth, cgoban is a game
[08:24] <gatekeeper> seanh, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:24] <fit4lfe> look at the error msg
[08:24] <msouth> livingdaylight: i would imagine /bin would work, yes
[08:24] <livingdaylight> cgoban is a client in fact for playing a game 'go'
[08:24] <seanh> Okay I did a server install when I shuld have done an alternate install. I have no Internet connection, but I do have a Desktop CD handy. Can anyone help me to install the desktop from the Desktop CD?
[08:25] <seanh> gatekeeper - thanks
[08:25] <fit4lfe> http://pastebin.ca/99834
[08:25] <livingdaylight> msouth, ok
[08:25] <gatekeeper> seanh, yw :-)
[08:25] <whizz--> i am trying to build a driver (OV511 chip webcam support), the README says: "First you have to configure your kernel appropriately. You must select USB (CONFIG_USB, (CONFIG_USB_UHCI|CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT|CONFIG_USB_OHCI)) and Video4Linux (CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV) support for your kernel. Because the kernel has an older version of this driver included, you should not select CONFIG_USB_OV511 to avoid conflicts." How do i do this?
[08:26] <seanh> gatekeeper - my sources.list already has the dapper drake CD listed... but apt is not looking at it.
[08:26] <fit4lfe> says its a bug in the program
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4lfe: Yes, I read it, did it EVER work?
[08:27] <fit4lfe> some sites it does
[08:27] <fit4lfe> yes
[08:27] <roxlu> Is there a way to find out how a application/library is compiled when using the synaptic package manager?
[08:27] <gatekeeper> seanh, server got internet?
[08:27] <fit4lfe> but like gmail no
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> So is it gagging on flash or some other mm issue?
[08:27] <fit4lfe> would it have anything to do with javascript maybe ?
[08:27] <seanh> gatekeeper - the machine in question has no Internet, the wireless card is problematic
[08:27] <fit4lfe> there is no flash in gmail
[08:27] <fit4lfe> just ajax and javascript
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fit4 I would start there.
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run make some money so I can afford the next Ubuntu release...
[08:29] <gatekeeper> seanh, sure you have your cd mounted?
[08:29] <seanh> gatekeeper - I guess not, I'll try to figure out how to mount it
[08:30] <gatekeeper> !mount
[08:30] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:30] <seanh> gatekeeper - I seem to have mounted it, but apt still isn't paying any attention to it
[08:31] <seanh> gatekeeper - I did mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 and it seemed to work. I can ls the contents of the CD now
[08:31] <gatekeeper> seanh, hmmm thats seems to be a bit strange
[08:32] <gatekeeper> seanh, try apt-get update
[08:32] <seanh> gatekeeper - actually the cdrom listed in sources.list is Ubuntu-Server, I probably need to list Ubuntu-Desktop
[08:33] <abhinay> how to download streamed videos, like rtsp://172.16.10.5/web/movies/cp/part1.rm ???
[08:33] <seanh> gatekeeper - yeah, just reports failures to get the Internet servers, doesn't look at the CD
[08:34] <dg> anyone had any luck getting a dlink bluetooth dongle working? hcitool scan just gives me: "Device is not available: No such device"
[08:34] <narfmaster> abhinay, have you seen that video downloader plugin in firefox?
[08:34] <seanh> gatekeeper = Okay, i tired editing Ubuntu-Server to Ubuntu-Desktop in sources.list, but apt-get update is now telling me to use apt-cdrom, so we'll see how that goes
[08:34] <livingdaylight> what is the command for installing with alien?
[08:34] <gatekeeper> seanh, excellent :-)
[08:34] <earthen> does anyone know what is the latest kernel used by ubuntu 64
[08:35] <livingdaylight> sudo alien -i packagename.rpm
[08:35] <abhinay> narfmaster, it doesn't play in firefox, i play with only realplayer
[08:35] <PingunZ> When I change my /boot/config-2.6.17 file, how can I make that work  ?
[08:35] <KeithWeisshar> is there a way to install ubuntu using i686 by default instead of i386
[08:35] <narfmaster> abhinay, no i meant have you seen that extension?
[08:35] <dg> earthen: I have 2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 on dapper
[08:35] <abhinay> narfmaster, Ya
[08:35] <livingdaylight> can anyone tell me how to install using alien?
[08:35] <KeithWeisshar> is there any way to install ubunti using linux-686 instead of linux-386 as default
[08:35] <earthen> dg, and that the latest?
[08:36] <livingdaylight> sudo alien -i packagename.rpm?
[08:36] <dg> earthen: yes, it's a security fix version
[08:36] <KeithWeisshar> i have a pentium d 930
[08:36] <jrib> livingdaylight: you try to avoid doing so
[08:36] <PingunZ> livingdaylight, just do alien -i thefile.rpm
[08:36] <earthen> dg, ok
[08:36] <gatekeeper> livingdaylight, what package are you trying to install
[08:36] <seanh> gatekeeper - well, apt-cdrom seemed to work, it added an entry to sources.list for the Desktop CD, but apt-get still fails
[08:36] <bigfoot1> i've copied a folder (with its subfolders and files ) from CD-rom onto my harddrive. ON harddrive this folder and everything in it has no "write" permission. what's the quickest way in terminal to get all files/folders inside this folder at once to become "wrrite"?
[08:36] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, cgoban-2.6.12-1.noarch.rpm  a client for playing a game called go
[08:37] <gatekeeper> seanh, you have tried sudo apt-get update first?
[08:37] <seanh> gatekeeper - yeah, same thing, it doesn't seem to look at the CD
[08:37] <narfmaster> bigfoot1, chmod -R +w /path/to
[08:38] <bigfoot1> narfmaster: thank you
[08:38] <narfmaster> bigfoot1, that's guess, but i think it's right
[08:38] <gatekeeper> seanh, I am somewhat perplexed, think you need someone with more knowledge than me
[08:38] <ballpointcarrot> narfmaster: that should work.
[08:38] <bigfoot1> can anyone confirm what narfmaster said?
[08:38] <seanh> gatekeeper - it looks like apt-cdrom unmounted the CD, but I remounted and tried apt-get update again and still nothing
[08:38] <gatekeeper> livingdaylight, have you installed alien?
[08:39] <seanh> Anyone know how to upgrade a server install to a Desktop install using a Desktop CD?
[08:39] <ballpointcarrot> bigfoot1: that's correct.
[08:39] <Nuked> should I compile the latest gdm?
[08:39] <narfmaster> seanh, not without reformatting
[08:39] <void^> livingdaylight: make sure you install and activate sun's java for cgoban
[08:39] <bigfoot1> narfmaster: it worked
[08:39] <bigfoot1> ballpointcarrot: thanks
[08:40] <ciaran> hello all
[08:40] <seanh> narfmaster - really? I should be able to just add the Desktop CD as a repos and install the packages from it, no?
[08:40] <ballpointcarrot> hi ciaran
[08:40] <narfmaster> seanh, the Desktop CD doesn't really work that way
[08:40] <ciaran> first time connecting to channel and a friendly bunch are here :-)
[08:40] <ciaran> good stuff!
[08:41] <narfmaster> seanh, now if you had the DVD or the alternate that would work
[08:41] <seanh> narfmaster - so it can't be done? The Desktop install doesn't work on this laptop, will I have to burn an alternative install CD?
[08:41] <ballpointcarrot> ciaran: that's the idea - an open community
[08:41] <narfmaster> seanh, unless you have the internet - you could just apt-get the ubuntu-desktop if you do
[08:41] <ciaran> can anyone please advise on how to open/install a *rpm file?
[08:42] <PingunZ> ALIEN -I
[08:42] <PingunZ> ciaran, just do alien -i name.rpm
[08:42] <PingunZ> as root ;)
[08:42] <seanh> narfmaster - unfortunately not, the wireless card is problematic, I'll have to fight that later. Well, I'll have to go home and get another blank. My own fault.
[08:42] <PingunZ> !install
[08:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:42] <narfmaster> seanh, sorry about that
[08:42] <PingunZ> !rpm
[08:42] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:43] <roxlu> Can anyone help me with this: http://paste-it.net/51
[08:43] <ciaran> -su: alien: command not found
[08:43] <ciaran>  :-(
[08:43] <roxlu> I've compiled a application with libcairo, but I'm getting this error..
[08:43] <PingunZ> sudo apt-get install alien ciaran
[08:43] <ciaran> I'll try the others
[08:43] <seanh> narfmaster - is it easier to wipe and install with the alternate CD, or to use it to upgrade the server to Desktop?
[08:44] <narfmaster> seanh, you mean vice versa?
[08:44] <pike_> seanh: desktop install is just one command if internet is working
[08:44] <PingunZ> ciaran,  sudo apt-get install alien && sudo alien -i name.rpm
[08:44] <seanh> narfmaster - ?
[08:44] <phonic_> which is better? bawls or red bull?
[08:44] <narfmaster> seanh, oh it's definitely easier to wipe and clean install
[08:44] <ciaran> nice one PinguunZ!
[08:44] <ballpointcarrot> ciaran: this'll explain alien for you:  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[08:44] <PingunZ> phonic_, red bull
[08:44] <seanh> narfmaster - okay thanks
[08:45] <PingunZ> np ciaran
[08:45] <phonic_> i  prefer bawls
[08:45] <phonic_> good taste
[08:45] <PingunZ> but phonic_  take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:45] <phonic_> o
[08:45] <phonic_> my bad
[08:45] <PingunZ> ;)
[08:45] <narfmaster> roxlu, how did you configure that?
[08:45] <ciaran> it's certainly doing something PingunZ
[08:46] <PingunZ> hehe ciaran
[08:46] <klm-> what's the best video editing tool for ubuntu?
[08:47] <narfmaster> roxlu, if find that most things need --prefix=/usr when you configure them
[08:47] <phonic_> 6.06 or breezy badger?
[08:47] <andi5> hi... can somebody tell me a link to a page describing current plans/status to integrate xen into ubuntu edgy? thanks in advance :)
[08:47] <PingunZ> 6.06
[08:47] <ciaran> it's telling me to run apt-get to fix errors it found PingunZ (what is apt-get I'm new user as you've probably guessed)
[08:47] <phonic_> i guess, but i cant get wireless too work on it
[08:48] <PingunZ> ciaran, do sudo apt-get -f install
[08:48] <ballpointcarrot> andi5: that question would be better handled in #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <andi5> ballpointcarrot: wow, did not know that channel.. thanks!
[08:49] <ballpointcarrot> andi5: np
[08:49] <||cw> I just instaled 6.06 server.  I created a new logical partition but the device file did not appear.  do i need to mknod or is there some magic not working?
[08:49] <PingunZ> ciaran, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f upgrade && sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install alien && sudo alien -i THENAMEOFTHEFILE.rpm
[08:50] <ciaran> happy days! it's now a tar file. Thanks PingunZ much appreciated :-D
[08:50] <PingunZ> ;)
[08:50] <phonic_> whats kubuntu like?
[08:51] <ciaran> Well I'm a new user to Ubuntu (approx 1.5 hours new) and I'm impressed already!
[08:51] <ballpointcarrot> ciaran:  good to hear.  hope everything goes smoothly for you.
[08:51] <ciaran> I'm sure it will mate
[08:51] <narfmaster> ||cw, you created it using fdisk?
[08:51] <JairunCaloth> Anyone have experiance with raid arrays here?
[08:51] <||cw> narfmaster: cfdisk, but yeah
[08:52] <narfmaster> ||cw, that's weird - it really should be there
[08:52] <narfmaster> ||cw, maybe you just need to reboot or something
[08:52] <||cw> narfmaster: yeah, i'm hezitant to mknod because udev has /dev
[08:53] <||cw> hm.  I did change the IP from dhcp and haven't rebooted, maybe I confused udev
[08:55] <JairunCaloth> Shouldn't a hardware raid array show up as one drive under the partioner?
[08:55] <andi5> ||cw: so you created a new logical partition but did not reboot? somehow i think you should do that :) if you created the device file manually, this will not work probably
[08:55] <JairunCaloth> raid0 that is
[08:55] <phonic_> what should i use too partition ubunt? command util or software?
[08:55] <Enverex> JairunCaloth, My SATA RAID0 showed up as two and I couldn't get it to show up with DMRaid at all so I gave up, heh
[08:55] <||cw> andi5: I've never had to before, though I don't usualy need logical partitions
[08:56] <Enverex> phonic_, Gparted if you're in X, fdisk at a console (the Linux version)
[08:56] <phonic_> enverex thanks
[08:56] <JairunCaloth> Enverex: so the partioner should just see one disk right?
[08:57] <aquarius> I've got a problem with the Gnome panel; it's starting up but only showing half the things on it, and then doesn't respond to clicks. killall gnome-panel restarts it but it does the same thing. This quite often happens after a reboot. How can I try and work out what's wrong?
[08:58] <Enverex> JairunCaloth, Yeah, erm, it will be under /dev/mapper/ rather than /dev/blah though
[08:58] <abhinay> how to download stream videos using mplayer ?
[08:58] <SuperMiguel> hello
[08:58] <aquarius> abhinay: mplayer <stream url> or mplayer -playlist <stream url>
[08:58] <Enverex> abhi, Open >> Play Url //
[08:58] <SuperMiguel> does any one how can i remote desktop a windows computer?
[08:59] <abhinay> i want to download it to hard disk
[08:59] <earthen> anyone here have any luck getting a broadcom wifi card to work
[08:59] <andi5> aquarius: you might try "top" to see whether one applet process uses all your cpu, then kill that one.... some solutions i used: (re)start network, (re)start dbus
[08:59] <||cw> SuperMiguel: rdesktop
[08:59] <comtech> hi, I'm running dapper on a p4 1.8/512 system and xorg is using like 15-25% of the cpu whenever I'm doing anything (bittorrent, firefox, synaptic, etc).. I've checked the HD out with smartmontools and it looks to be fine, any advice on speeding this up? my system is hitting 5.00 load running like 5 bittorrents
[08:59] <phonic_> Erverex, how long have u used ubuntu too become so knowledable?
[08:59] <||cw> SuperMiguel: or install a vnc server on it
[08:59] <SuperMiguel> i want to use a remote desktop
[09:00] <andi5> aquarius: it sorty automatically
[09:00] <comtech> earthen, I've used it with ndiswrapper
[09:00] <pigeon107> really not that long
[09:00] <roxlu> narfmaster: is there a ls.so.conf on ubuntu?
[09:00] <spafbnerf> ne1 can tell me how to disable OSS ? w/o rebuilding the kernel ....
[09:00] <narfmaster> roxlu, probably - let me check
[09:00] <spafbnerf> it's breaking my midi .....
[09:00] <earthen> comtech, what version of the chip have you got i have BCM4318
[09:00] <comtech> bcm4306
[09:00] <aquarius> right, then there's not one applet using all the cpu :)
[09:00] <pigeon107> system>>prefs>>remote desktopp
[09:01] <comtech> my Xorg has used 99 minutes of cpu time in a day...
[09:01] <earthen> comtech, I'm haveing allot of trouble with it, it worked using ndiswrapper in breezy with no problems at all
[09:01] <santa99> good evening, what tool should i use to search for wireless networks
[09:01] <andi5> aquarius: can you estimate what applet gnome-panel is loading currently?
[09:01] <narfmaster> roxlu, well not on my system anyway :p
[09:01] <roxlu> no indeed
[09:01] <venomgfx> hey all
[09:02] <pigeon107> ne1 one had any luck with a mobilepre usb and JACK?
[09:02] <aquarius> andi5: not easily. when i rebooted, it brought up the trashapplet and nothing else. After killing it, I get the menus and a firefox launcher and nothing else.
[09:02] <||cw> commctrl: mines 24 in 5 days
[09:02] <earthen> comtech, would you have a link or something I can follow as to see where I went wrong?
[09:02] <venomgfx> somebody has problems with genius wizardpen in the last version of ubuntu?
[09:02] <venomgfx> after upgrading from ubuntu 5.xx
[09:02] <andi5> aquarius: something interesting in ~/.xsession-errors?
[09:03] <aquarius> andi5: nope. Checked there. :)
[09:03] <andi5> aquarius: and try to restart dbus :)
[09:04] <pigeon107> anyone had any luck using a mobile pre usb with JACKd?
[09:04] <aquarius> andi5: just tried that as well (/etc/init.d/dbus restart, which restarted hal and avahi as well), and then killed the panel again; same thing.
[09:04] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - does anybody know the name of the script included with vice that installs the kernel rom?
[09:04] <andi5> aquarius: do you run a proxy?
[09:04] <venomgfx> somebody using graphic table?
[09:04] <aquarius> andi5: nope. (what sort of proxy?)
[09:04] <andi5> aquarius: http, but you said no :)
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Anyone think the AMD aquisition will improve Linux support for ATI graphics?
[09:05] <aquarius> andi5: just checking there wasn't some dbus proxy or something that i don't know about ;)
[09:05] <aquarius> tonyyarusso: would be nice to think so, but...it'll take a while, if it happens at all.
[09:05] <||cw> tonyyarusso: we can hope
[09:05] <andi5> aquarius: the last think i can tell you.... take a throrough look at ps axf.... thenk kill every applet, one after the other ;-)
[09:06] <aquarius> ahaha!
[09:06] <pigeon107> anyone had any luck using a mobile pre usb (usb pre amp) with JACKd?
[09:06] <aquarius> it was deskbar.
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> Hasn't been speculated about by anyone inside though I suppose.
[09:06] <||cw> ATI has always had weak drivers, even for windows.  the troubling part is, AMD doesn't need drivers so they don't have much of track record to make a judgment against
[09:07] <Enverex> ||cw, Not true, there are Linux versions of most their programs and drivers on their site
[09:07] <andi5> aquarius: any idea what made deskbar go crazy?
[09:07] <||cw> Enverex: I said the drivers are weak, not non-existant
[09:07] <euly> any ideas, why this dont work: /ignore -regexp -pattern "has joined" *
[09:07] <pigeon107> yea speacially for old ati cards
[09:07] <euly> ?
[09:07] <thundr> Hi, I need help getting my wireless going.  What are some of the programs that control wireless?
[09:08] <pigeon107> go to the network panel
[09:08] <ax> so anyone else have issues with dapper and colors  "black", "Black", "White" not being found (and making terminal emulators not run, screensavers messed up, etc)?
[09:08] <aquarius> andi5: nope. Just about to check that now and fix it :)
[09:08] <santa99> what tool should i take to look for connecting to wireless netwokrs
[09:08] <Super_Cat_Frog> thundr: kcontrol
[09:08] <narfmaster> euly, /ignore works on a host mask
[09:08] <MarcN> santa99: I like network-manager
[09:08] <||cw> Enverex: when i had a ATI Rage 4mb card and had to call ATI and was told to enter a win95 registy hack to make IE draw pictures correctly, well that's when i swore off ATI
[09:08] <euly> narfmaster: that means what?
[09:09] <narfmaster> euly, like *!*@*.aol.com
[09:09] <euly> narfmaster: it only understands chinese backwards then?
[09:09] <NthDegree> uhhh ATI is the reason XP needs an extra 14mb
[09:09] <SuperMiguel> the root password
[09:09] <SuperMiguel> is the same as the user password?
[09:09] <NthDegree> for sudo yes
[09:09] <narfmaster> euly, 22 tons of flak
[09:09] <NthDegree> sudo -i
[09:09] <||cw> NthDegree: nv drivers are hogs too.  any 3d accelerated driver is
[09:09] <SuperMiguel> how come it not work for me
[09:10] <pigeon107> no, ur user name is in te sudoers file
[09:10] <euly> narfmaster: so how do i tell it to ignore joins?
[09:10] <pigeon107> so you mostly all if not all root privs
[09:10] <NthDegree> ||cw, but ATI has a patch built into XP that is installed even if you don't have an ATI card
[09:10] <NthDegree> waste of space
[09:10] <SuperMiguel> when i put
[09:10] <SuperMiguel> su
[09:10] <||cw> interesting
[09:10] <SuperMiguel> on the terminer
[09:10] <narfmaster> euly, to do that, you need a custom *event* handler
[09:10] <SuperMiguel> and i put my password
[09:10] <SuperMiguel> it said acces denied
[09:11] <NthDegree> SuperMiguel, put sudo -i then your password
[09:11] <euly> narfmaster: alright. where do i buy one?
[09:11] <thundr> Super_Cat_Frog: Anything similar for gnome?
[09:11] <m1ckeyknox> how can I open file browser with sudo? (what is the command for it)
[09:11] <narfmaster> euly, i don't know how to do that but you may find it in /help
[09:11] <NthDegree> m1ckeyknox: sudo nautilus ./
[09:11] <euly> m1ckeyknow: nautilus --browser &
[09:11] <Ruffles> m1ckeyknox: gksudo 'nautilus --no-desktop /'
[09:11] <m1ckeyknox> thanks.
[09:11] <andi5> NthDegree: this is the first time i read that someone suggests sudo -i ... i do that all the time :)
[09:12] <pigeon107> do u need the ./
[09:12] <NthDegree> nope
[09:12] <thundr> Super_Cat_Frog: Also, I can't find kcontrol
[09:12] <CokeNCode> what does the '-i' switch do ?
[09:12] <NthDegree> it is so you can load the directory you are in
[09:12] <pigeon107> ah
[09:12] <andi5> CokeNCode: man sudo :)
[09:12] <NthDegree> sudo -i loads you as root
[09:12] <pigeon107> thats coo
[09:12] <minerale> I just setup my printer but when I print there's an offset, the printout is lower than it should be and it runs off the page, where can I tweak this ?
[09:12] <pigeon107> keeps u in root
[09:12] <pigeon107> or root privs
[09:13] <Enverex> How do I set how long it saves the root password for?
[09:13] <SuperMiguel> im trying to install rdesktop
[09:13] <pigeon107> ur acutal root passwd is scrabled on install, but u can change it before you restart into x for the first time
[09:13] <kaiSVK> hi all
[09:13] <kaiSVK> how can I enable root account ?
[09:13] <pike_> Enverex: it mightbe in /etc/sudoers
[09:14] <andi5> it is not
[09:14] <bigfoot1> i opened "sudo nautilus" . how do i get to my home dir?
[09:14] <Enverex> pike_, I couldn't see anything time related in there
[09:14] <euly> kaiSVK: su passwd root
[09:14] <SuperMiguel> im trying to install rdesktop and when i write make install it said permission denied
[09:14] <pigeon107> type /home in the text box
[09:14] <euly> kaiSVK: sudo passwd root
[09:14] <bigfoot1> how do i get to home dir?
[09:14] <pigeon107> are you doing it from cmd line?
[09:14] <euly> bigfoot1: cd
[09:14] <EtienneG> kaiSVK, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for the whole story
[09:15] <||cw> SuperMiguel: sudo apt-get install rdesktop ?
[09:15] <kaiSVK> bigfoot1, cd /home/name
[09:15] <andi5> bigfoot1: better gksudo nautilus
[09:15] <pigeon107> type /home in the browser
[09:15] <funkja> Hi, I plugged in my Mp3 player into my usb drive and it the "usbdisk" thing popped up fine and showed all my files. When I go in and delete them, they disapear from the file listing but it doesn't create free space.
[09:15] <kaiSVK> EtienneG, thanx
[09:15] <comtech> earthen, not really, I do have a little info up at www.8cylinder.org/i5100
[09:15] <pike_> Enverex: im not on ubuntu box right now..
[09:15] <bigfoot1> andi5: thanks
[09:15] <euly> funkja: press CTRL+H go to the .Trash file and kille em again
[09:15] <aquarius> Enverex: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_default_timeout_in_sudo
[09:15] <||cw> funkja: emtpy trash
[09:16] <zener759> hi. can anyone help me out with getting the live CD version to see the local drive partitions?
[09:16] <||cw> funkja: or delete just those file from trash if you want o keep th rest
[09:16] <santa99> is there a tool like kwifi , kwifi-manager for gnome ?
[09:16] <funkja> is there a way to format a usbdisk?
[09:16] <||cw> santa99: I thik dapper has one, I kind of recall it being in my toolbar on my laptop
[09:17] <||cw> funkja: use the disk manager
[09:17] <andi5> funkja: umount it and format it like every other block device.... do you want to do it graphically?
[09:17] <Ruffles> zener759: mount /dev/hdX /mnt/ (where hdX is your local partition)
[09:18] <venomgfx> someone can help me with my tablet?
[09:18] <funkja> andi5, ||cw: either way. I just want it done. The usbdisk doesn't show up in disk manager
[09:18] <||cw> funkja: mine does
[09:18] <venomgfx> i cant make it work since i upgraded from ubuntu 5.xx
[09:18] <Enverex> aquarius, Erm, that goes to a page that is nothing to do with sudo
[09:18] <mattttttt> hmm
[09:19] <aquarius> Enverex: not for me it doesn't? "HowTo: Change default timeout (from 5 minutes) in sudo"
[09:19] <funkja> andi5: how do I find the device address to unmount it?
[09:19] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: you around?
[09:19] <Ruffles> do you guys know any script for irssi ?
[09:20] <Ruffles> like those made for bitchx...
[09:20] <andi5> funkja: you can enter mount in the terminal and look at the output (i cannot find disk manager currenty :-/)
[09:20] <aquarius> Ruffles: http://www.irssi.org/scripts/
[09:20] <Enverex> aquarius, Ok that's weird, opera always opens on the "What's new in Gnome" page =/
[09:20] <Ruffles> aquarius: thanks dude
[09:20] <Bellerophon> hello, I just tried to burn dapper and install it, but it gives me an error(something bout illogical block thing, guess the cd failed burning), now I tried this with gnomebaker, don't know if that is the problem, if perhaps somebody has a command line option?
[09:21] <aquarius> Enverex: hm. that'd be an opera problem, that. I suspect that the default browser thing needs to be configured to pass a URL differently.
[09:21] <pussfeller> !buildpackage
[09:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about buildpackage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:21] <||cw> Bellerophon: try burning at a slower speed
[09:21] <JairunCaloth> so yea... the installer isn't detecting my raid array
[09:22] <zener759> thanks Ruffles, but I tried that... Doesn't work ;-( It reports something like "unable to start volume". It mounts any USB devices 100% though
[09:22] <Bellerophon> maybe I'd check the md5 code first?
[09:22] <caro_> ola ablas espaol
[09:22] <||cw> JairunCaloth: you have to use the alternat cd to do RAID
[09:22] <pussfeller> yeah, you always wanna burn isos at very slow speed, they do a crc check ussually when installing the packages contained and minor errors that don't show up say on a MUSIC cd will
[09:22] <JairunCaloth> This is the alternate CD
[09:22] <||cw> unless it's true hardware raid
[09:22] <Bellerophon> that idea just popped in my head :p
[09:22] <funkja> andi5: the command for unmounting is what?
[09:22] <caro_> you spain
[09:22] <JairunCaloth> And as far as I know it's hardware raid
[09:22] <||cw> JairunCaloth: well, it's software raid anyway, so just make a raid
[09:23] <||cw> JairunCaloth: what raid card
[09:23] <andi5> funkja: sudo umount ${device}, where device will be /dev/sda1 or whatever
[09:23] <JairunCaloth> My onboard raid
[09:23] <||cw> JairunCaloth: heh, unless it's SCSI with a ZCR, that's software raid
[09:24] <Ruffles> aquarius: these scritps are more of "addons". do you know any complete script like cypress?
[09:24] <Ruffles> scripts*
[09:24] <JairunCaloth> really..
[09:24] <||cw> JairunCaloth: in windows, it's done the the driver software
[09:24] <||cw> linux has some support for that also
[09:25] <funkja> andi5: errr... the command to format? :-)
[09:25] <andi5> funkja: what file system?
[09:25] <aquarius> Ruffles: don't know, I'm afraid. there may not be any; bitchx is oriented a bit more towards scripters.
[09:25] <Ruffles> zenwhen: read your /etc/fstab and you'll learn a lot :)
[09:25] <Ruffles> aquarius: mmmm.. i see
[09:25] <Ruffles> irssi looks promissing though
[09:25] <JairunCaloth> So why do I configure my raid in the bios, if it's not a true raid controller?
[09:26] <andi5> JairunCaloth: promise?
[09:26] <funkja> andi5: vfat
[09:26] <rretzbach> Hi.
[09:26] <||cw> JairunCaloth: the bios stores a signature that the driver picks up and does the raid in software
[09:26] <euly> clear
[09:26] <euly> ups :)
[09:26] <||cw> JairunCaloth: it's a marketing trick.  it IS most definatly software raid.
[09:26] <andi5> funkja: sudo mkfs.vfat ${device} :)..... or more generally, sudo mkfs.${fs} ${dev}
[09:26] <rretzbach> I just installed ubuntu server, but I run it on my notebook. Is driver support the same as in the desktop version?
[09:27] <JairunCaloth> cd: that's pretty messed up
[09:27] <Enverex> What's the line to add to the sudoers file to let you sudo without having to enter your password?
[09:27] <||cw> JairunCaloth: it does have the binifit that the raid card handles the boot failover
[09:27] <||cw> well, for raid1
[09:27] <venomgfx> please? :(
[09:27] <Ruffles> rretzbach: ubuntu is ubuntu no matter u're using it as a server or desktop
[09:27] <||cw> but then, raid0 isn't technicaly raid anyway
[09:27] <Ruffles> it's all the same i guess so
[09:27] <||cw> brb
[09:28] <ciaran> bye guys & thanks for the help
[09:28] <jeff_hann> Enverex, are you sure you wann ado that?
[09:28] <jeff_hann> *wanna do
[09:28] <Enverex> Yes
[09:28] <euly> is there a way to do this for all channels?: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[09:28] <funkja> andi5: thank you. You've been very helpful.
[09:29] <andi5> funkja: but you see, it is not hard =)
[09:29] <funkja> andi5: I usually know what I want to do, I just don't know how to do it :)
[09:29] <Enverex> Nevermind, I've done it
[09:29] <Phlexonance> how do I install JRE, I have the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, what do I do with it?
[09:29] <rretzbach> Ruffles: So I have no disadvantages at getting special hardware to run with the server edition?
[09:30] <jeff_hann> oki
[09:30] <cocos_> hello, is there a way to check if i installed the vga driver correctly?
[09:30] <euly> Phlexonance: What happens, when you execute it?
[09:30] <aquarius> Phlexonance: you can install the JRE directly from the ubuntu repositories if you'd prefer, which is easier.
[09:30] <JairunCaloth> OK, so next question since I have to set this up as a software raid, How exactly do I go about doing the partitions? Just put half of the partiton I want on each?
[09:30] <Phlexonance> aquarius: and whats it called there?
[09:31] <Phlexonance> aquarius: apt-get install ?
[09:31] <raguanu> HELP: i am trying to install my ethernet card. i have driver source and makefile. could anyone guide me through the process?
[09:31] <andi5> Phlexonance: sun-j2re1.5
[09:31] <aquarius> sun-java5-jre, I think. It should be in synaptic. (YOu might need to enable repositories like universe or multiverse)
[09:32] <scabootssca> has anyone gotten yahoo music videos to work in kubuntu?
[09:32] <scabootssca> ubuntu whatever
[09:32] <Ruffles> raguanu: what's your eth card?
[09:32] <xed2> hello everyone
[09:32] <Phlexonance> aquarius: sure synaptics, always forget about that, used to apt-get ^
[09:32] <xed2> im trying to install zoneminder
[09:32] <Minty> is there a log that is written when a problem arrives in linux
[09:32] <bigfoot1> while uploading a file via web upload, i moved the file to trash. and upload is still going? is this Linux magic?
[09:32] <xed2> can anyone help me out ?
[09:33] <andi5> Phlexonance: you might try aptitude too (but either synaptic or aptitude)
[09:33] <aquarius> Phlexonance: "apt-cache search sun java" :-)
[09:33] <bobbyw> Can not find PySoulSeek modules.
[09:33] <bobbyw> Perhaps they're installed in a directory which is not
[09:33] <bobbyw> in an interpreter's module search path.
[09:33] <thundr> Hi, I need help getting my wireless going.
[09:33] <bobbyw> anyone know how I can fix that?
[09:33] <ronaldo> I just distupgraded to dapper
[09:33] <ronaldo> but I see my screen tiled
[09:33] <cocos_> hello, is there a way to check if i installed the vga driver correctly?
[09:33] <ronaldo> I see everything 6 times
[09:33] <cocos_> !sound
[09:33] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:33] <aquarius> bobbyw: what are you getting it from?
[09:34] <euly> cocos_: what means correctly?
[09:34] <Ruffles> ronaldo: that'd make up a nice puzzle
[09:34] <Ruffles> lol
[09:34] <andi5> bobbyw: hm... i do not know pysoulseek, but you might have luck with the environment variable PYTHONPATH
[09:34] <cocos_> euly: if its the right one if i installed it good if it works
[09:34] <ronaldo> Ruffles: :)
[09:34] <Phlexonance> aquarius: whats it called in synaptics, theres tons of entrys with "java" in the name
[09:34] <bobbyw> I get it after aliening and installing a redhat rpm
[09:35] <euly> cocos_: looks like it works, when you see what we write.
[09:35] <cocos_> euly: yeah well that just a generic driver..
[09:36] <Ruffles> would my pc's perfomance improve if i changed my swap partition from 133mb into 256mb ?
[09:36] <aquarius> bobbyw: you don't have pysoulseek installed. That doesn't seem to be packaged for Ubuntu, as far as I can tell. http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/ is the site for pysoulseek.
[09:36] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: how much RAM do you have?
[09:36] <andi5> Ruffles: unlikely (disks are slow)
[09:36] <Enverex> Ruffles, How much RAM do you have?
[09:36] <tjb891> how do I tell if a Sandisk Sansa e130 512MB Portable Digital Music Player  works with ubuntu
[09:36] <aquarius> Phlexonance: sun-java5-jre, I believe.
[09:36] <Ruffles> thoreauputic: 256 with 32mb shared with onboard video
[09:37] <bobbyw> aquarius: I'm at that site, that's where I downloaded the rpm and installed it
[09:37] <mnp> will sudo apt-get install install eterm for me? i couldn't find it in the Install New Programs utility
[09:37] <Enverex> tjb891, Does it show up as a mass storage device in Windows and just let you copy files to and from it?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: I think at least 500 or so MB for swap then
[09:37] <Ruffles> sometimes my system almost freezes runnin' firefox, a music player and another stuff at the same time
[09:37] <Cntryboy> Is Gaim-vv any good for voice chat? I'm wanting voice for yahoo. Any ideas?
[09:37] <tjb891> its is windows play for shure, i haven't bought it yet
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: 133 is very low
[09:37] <Enverex> tjb891, Google for peoples experience then
[09:37] <tjb891> ok
[09:37] <aquarius> bobbyw: ah. then alien hasn't managed to convert the rpm to a deb properly. You may want to install it the manual way rather than using the RPM.
[09:38] <Ruffles> but.. what's the real role for swap? i've heard of ppl who runs linuxes without swap partitions
[09:38] <andi5> !tell mnp about universe
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: only if they have quite alot of RAM
[09:38] <Ruffles> mmmm.. and the lack of swap space... can it be the reason why my system sometimes gets so slow?
[09:38] <JairunCaloth> So I can do this by using DMraid and a live CD install?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: if you run out of RAM you need swap ( hence your trouble running multiple apps)
[09:39] <Cntryboy> Anyone?
[09:39] <Enverex> Ruffles, It's for when you run out of physical RAM and none of your physical RAM can be freed up as it's currently all actually in use
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: but swa is always slower than RAM of course
[09:39] <bobbyw> hmm
[09:39] <thoreauputic> *swap
[09:39] <bobbyw> now it seems to be telling me wxPython isn't installed
[09:39] <Enverex> I didn't use to bother with a Swap and on this PC the swap has never been touched, but that's because it has 2GB of physical
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: i dont think gaim-vv is complete
[09:39] <bobbyw> should it be instaled with a ubuntu install?
[09:40] <andi5> Cntryboy: you might tree ekiga (gnomemeeting)
[09:40] <Ruffles> mmmmm.. it looks like the window's virtual memory
[09:40] <Enverex> Ruffles, It's the same thing
[09:40] <raguanu> i am ubuntu newbie. i think swap is similar to windows pagefile. so if you have low ram, increasing swap space might help not freezing the system..
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: similar, yes
[09:40] <Enverex> Ruffles, Except Windows uses a file, Linux uses a drive/partition
[09:40] <gnomefreak> bobbyw: no wxpython is not installed by deafult
[09:40] <Ruffles> mmmm.. ic
[09:40] <bobbyw> raguanu: it IS the windows page file
[09:40] <gnomefreak> default
[09:40] <EtienneG> Ruffles, note that suspend-to-disk also require a swap partition >= physical RAM to write down the RAM on disk
[09:40] <Cntryboy> andi5: i'm using kubuntu not sure if gnomemeeting would work that great but I could be wrong, but I want something for yahoo, like to hear voice in music rooms
[09:40] <bobbyw> just in it's own partition
[09:40] <JairunCaloth> Or could I go into command line mode with the alt CD and install and run DM raid from there?
[09:41] <Ruffles> but... the swap gets used even though there's still free ram available right?
[09:41] <Enverex> Ruffles, no
[09:41] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: yes it does
[09:41] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: any ideas for voice in yahoo then?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> Enverex: yes it does
[09:41] <Ruffles> mmmm..
[09:41] <Enverex> thoreauputic, Mine hasn't been touched at all since I installed Ubuntu on this machine
[09:41] <Ruffles> now it's starting to sound clearer
[09:41] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: no i havent used yahoo in forever :(
[09:41] <andi5> Cntryboy: basically gnomemeeting should work in kubuntu just as well as in ubuntu (if you do not mind installing some of gnomes packages)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> Enverex: but you have 2 gigs of RAM
[09:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:41] <fit4lfe> anyone have problems with the flash plugin for firefox
[09:42] <Enverex> thoreauputic, Yes, and? He said " but... the swap gets used even though there's still free ram available right?"
[09:42] <fit4lfe> or geko engine type browsers
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Enverex: I have 512 and swap is used a bit most of the time
[09:42] <thundr> I need help getting my wireless going.  Can anyone help?
[09:42] <Enverex> thoreauputic, yes, likely when you run out of RAM
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Enverex: npo
[09:42] <livingdaylight> did someone say something to me?
[09:42] <Cntryboy> andi5: thats the prob, i'm using dialup at 2.1KB :(
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Enverex: you don't understand swap
[09:42] <Chousuke> A bit of swap is used all the time.
[09:42] <Enverex> thoreauputic, So why would yours be used and mine wouldn't?
[09:42] <santa99> is there a repository for netstumbler ?
[09:42] <livingdaylight> did someone want to say something to me regarding alien?
[09:43] <andi5> Cntryboy: sorry, i have not run kde for years...
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Enverex: because swap holds stuff that hasn't been used for a while but might get called
[09:43] <Enverex> My Swap usage has been sitting at a flat ZERO and has never gone above that
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Enverex: so?
[09:43] <raguanu> how to check the swap usage?
[09:43] <Enverex> free -m
[09:43] <andi5> raguanu: free
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Enverex: all that means is you have a lot of RAM
[09:43] <Ruffles> gnome task manager
[09:43] <bobbyw> hmm, I can't find a binary/source of wxPython 2.6 and apt-get install wxPython doesn't work :(
[09:43] <Ruffles> automatix does a nice job
[09:43] <bytefoo> does anyone know why i can only play one sound at a time?
[09:44] <raguanu> Thanks..I will try free.
[09:44] <Ruffles> it has activated the system monitor by pressing control+alt+del :)
[09:44] <Enverex> thoreauputic, You're not making any sense. If it's because I have lots of RAM that it's not being used, that would mean that it is only used when the RAM is full, and ergo I'd be right in my initial statement
[09:44] <aquarius> bobbyw: what does it do when you try to apt-get install it?
[09:44] <Dev05> Hi! Can someone give me a hand with networking?
[09:44] <Ruffles> bytefoo: maybe you ain't using alsa
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Enverex: on my iBook with 768 MB RAM swap stays at zero
[09:44] <Ruffles> or alsa supported apps
[09:44] <raguanu> HELP: i am trying to install my ethernet card. i have driver source and makefile. could anyone guide me through the process?
[09:44] <bytefoo> well i'm using rhythmbox and highlighting an mp3 in nautilus
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Enverex: read about it - sorry but you don't get it at all
[09:44] <bytefoo> so i would hope those are supported since its the default...
[09:45] <raguanu> My eth card is: Silan SC92031 PCI  Fast Ethernet Adapter
[09:45] <Ruffles> raguanu: what's your ethernet card???
[09:45] <Cntryboy> anyone in here know what I can use for yahoo voice?
[09:45] <andi5> raguanu: are you sure your ethernet is not supported by stock kernels?
[09:45] <bigfoot1> the login screen is currently set to DVORAK layout. How can i make it QWERY keyboard layout?
[09:45] <Ruffles> raguanu: have you tried the kernel modules yet?
[09:45] <Dev05> raganu, There should be some README file in your driver's source.
[09:45] <raguanu> yes. ruffles. its not supported.
[09:45] <raguanu> the driver cd provides. source code and makefile.
[09:45] <Ruffles> raguanu: google man.. google...
[09:45] <Ruffles> hehehe
[09:45] <Enverex> thoreauputic, I probably would if you made some sense, heh. All you've basically said is SWAP doesn't get used if you have more RAM, which logic would dictate would be because you've run out of Physical RAM.
[09:45] <Dev05> raganu, There it should guide you through compilation and installation.
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Enverex: the kernel is smarter than you :)
[09:46] <Enverex> You said that it is used for things anyway, but if that were true then mine would be anyway, as would your machine that you just mentioned
[09:46] <Ruffles> my swap gets used although my ram is still not filled up
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Enverex: wrong
[09:46] <Enverex> No no, that's not how you do it
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Enverex: read about kernel emory management
[09:46] <raguanu> Dev05. yes there is readme file. i am pretty new to linux. i don't know how to compile the source as they say.
[09:46] <Lex-Luthor> WRONG!
[09:46] <MarcN> Ruffles: that is fine.  it is probably some old, relatively unused processes.  say mgetty for console logins.
[09:46] <Ruffles> but.. what i don't understand is.. my friend has 256mb RAM and told me he doesn't need swap space at all
[09:47] <Intangir> i accidently installed AMD64 server
[09:47] <Intangir> instead of desktop
[09:47] <Dev05> raganu, Can you send me the README?
[09:47] <Intangir> how can i install the rest of the desktop installation from command line?
[09:47] <thundr> Ruffles: doesn't it depend on what he runs?  His usage could be different than yours.
[09:47] <raguanu> devo5 sure.
[09:47] <neom> Does Mark Shuttleworth ever come here?
[09:47] <MarcN> Intangir: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <Ruffles> thundr: well.. we both run gnome
[09:47] <Intangir> k thats what i thought
[09:47] <mc__> neom, i dont think so
[09:47] <bigfoot1> there's no option to change keyboard layouts in the login screen. so i guess it must be chosen beforehand. where?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Ruffles: ask your friend to leave his machine up for a few days, and check his swap after cron daily runs
[09:47] <Intangir> it installs TONS of junk though
[09:47] <Intangir> like TOOONS of junk hehe
[09:47] <Ruffles> thesonork: he hasn't got swap
[09:47] <crimsun> neom: rarely, but he's in the dev channel intermittently.
[09:47] <Intangir> i even saw a packages named bicyclerepair
[09:48] <Enverex> Ruffles, I'm sure you both run more than just Gnome
[09:48] <mc__> crimsun, are you joking?
[09:48] <Intangir> im not sure what that is.. but .. bicycle repair? come on ;)
[09:48] <Ruffles> of course
[09:48] <crimsun> mc__: why would I be joking?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> mc__: no
[09:48] <Ruffles> but isn't gnome the heaviest?
[09:48] <ronaldo> Ruffles: apparently something with my MonitorLayout option
[09:48] <Enverex> Ruffles, No
[09:48] <Enverex> Ruffles, That would be KDE
[09:48] <mc__> mark shuttleworth himself is in the dev channel? omg
[09:48] <Ruffles> no man.. amongst the other stuff in a desktop
[09:48] <ronaldo> back to 1 desktop :)
[09:48] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: have ya heard of pY! Voice Chat 0.3 and does it work?
[09:49] <Enverex> TWM > Flux > Enlightenment > XFCE > Gnome > KDE (smallest to largest)
[09:49] <Ruffles> no one runs kde and gnome at the same time
[09:49] <gnomefreak> mc__: he is a very big part in ubuntu
[09:49] <raguanu> Dev05: I hve sent the file. it is in waiting status now..
[09:49] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: never heard of it
[09:49] <RancidLM> im trying to get xgl+ubuntu+nvidia twinview to work.. does any one know how to set gnome-panel to stay to one monitor and make windows not pop up center monitor split?
[09:49] <mc__> gnomefreak, but not a developer afaik?
[09:49] <neom> crimsun, What is the dev channel?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> mc__: i think he is also
[09:49] <Enverex> Ruffles, Erm, I know they don't, I was correcting you when you said Gnome was the heaviest
[09:49] <Ruffles> i just can't use kde
[09:49] <Intangir> Gnome isnt a window manager though
[09:49] <gnomefreak> mc__: he has a few packages he maintains/created iirc
[09:49] <crimsun> neom: -devel
[09:50] <Intangir> it uses metacity
[09:50] <Ruffles> but i meant heaviest in a standard desktop.. runnin' web browser, xmms and stuff
[09:50] <Intangir> usually..
[09:50] <Enverex> Erm, although I have run KDE, Gnome and XFCE4 at the same time together
[09:50] <Enverex> Ruffles, It IS the desktop, not a program
[09:50] <Enverex> (obviously in seperate X sessions, but still at the same time, I was trying to decide which to use)
[09:51] <Ruffles> yep.. as in a desktop.. a standard ubuntu, wouldn't gnome be the heaviest of the processes?
[09:51] <Enverex> No, X would be
[09:51] <Enverex> Then probably nautilus
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Enverex: OK I'll try again once :) Example: when cronm daily runs it uses a lot of memory pages that are not subsequently needed - if you have a lot of ram that cn happen without swap but with say 500MB it will happen. The kernel will dump that as required later so that your rqm is used well
[09:51] <Enverex> Ah, here we go...
[09:51] <Dev05> raguanu, I don't see it...
[09:51] <Bellerophon> hm, I think I need a new nickname, It's clear that my cd drive is chimerae, but he obviously refuses to work. I tried burning the cd at a lower speed, but still the cd is 'broken'(cant get a md5sum of it, input/output error) :(
[09:52] <rretzbach> I tried to install X, but I failed as I see no xstart.
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Enverex: so some swap will still sit here even though all the RAM is not being used
[09:52] <Enverex> From largest to smallest - XOrg, x-session manager, gnome-panel, nautilus,  clock(!!)--applet, update notifier
[09:52] <rretzbach> I installed a wm, xserver-xorg and x-window-system-core.
[09:53] <rretzbach> What do I need now?
[09:53] <Enverex> Get that all Ruffles ?
[09:53] <Ruffles> clock??!!?!?
[09:53] <Ruffles> oh gosh
[09:53] <Enverex> Ruffles, yeah, the clock applet, lol
[09:53] <Ruffles> that's nutz
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Enverex: did that help at all ? :)
[09:53] <Ruffles> i've noticed that from the system monitor
[09:53] <Ruffles> lemme go to xchat
[09:53] <Enverex> thoreauputic, Yeah, that's assuming you have a boatload of crap to run all at the same time though, heh
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Enverex: not really - the remaining swap is from the cron job
[09:55] <thoreauputic> Enverex: as soon as you start up something new the kernel fixes the balance
[09:55] <Ruffles> and what are the standard services used by ubuntu in which i could safely remove to get my system runnin' faster?
[09:55] <Bellerophon> could it be that my cd burner is broken? I tried to burn it twice with gnomebaker, everything goes fine, but still the cd is corrupted. Or isn't gnomebaker reliabe?
[09:55] <Ruffles> klogd?
[09:55] <Ruffles> could i disable that?
[09:55] <bytefoo> so anyone know why i can only play one sound at a time, it worked fine last week :|
[09:55] <rretzbach> Gnar. Is there a meta package to help me installing all needed x window packages?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> Bellerophon: gnomebaker is fine i use it most of time
[09:55] <Dev05> raguanu, Can you try again?
[09:56] <Ruffles> bytefoo, if you are trying to use skype forget about the other programs.. skype doesn't support alsa
[09:56] <Bellerophon> gnomefreak, strange :(
[09:56] <bytefoo> no skype works fine for me
[09:56] <gnomefreak> on your system might be different Bellerophon
[09:56] <bytefoo> its all my gnome stuff that doesn't work :(
[09:56] <Ruffles> yep but skype linux doesn't share de audio card
[09:56] <bytefoo> i tried turning off esd but that didn't do anything
[09:56] <Ruffles> skype linux is kind of selfish
[09:57] <bytefoo> but then how am i able to play music while skype is still on
[09:57] <Bellerophon> got any suggestions what I could try?
[09:57] <tjb891> is there a way to make .wma s in ubuntu (for a mp3 player, not to actaully play in linux)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Bellerophon: try k3b
[09:57] <Ruffles> bytefoo, you ain't
[09:57] <Bellerophon> gnomefreak, ok thanks
[09:57] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:58] <Ruffles> bytefoo, you can play music until skype attempts to use the sound card
[09:58] <Cntryboy> anyone in here ever try gyach-enhanced?
[09:58] <Ruffles> then u won't be able to talk on it
[09:58] <thundr> tjb891: I'd avoid making wmas at any cost they're completely inferior  -  If you can use ogg or mp3 it'd be much better
[09:58] <bytefoo> ok that's fine, but i never mentioned skype; you did, that's not my problem.  my problem is that i can't get anything within gnome to play concurrent sounds
[09:58] <Dev05> Anyway, is there anyone with some spare time to help me out???
[09:59] <mc__> !ask > Dev05
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Dev05: ask your question please
[09:59] <Whyvas> Dev05, don't ask to ask
[09:59] <Ruffles> bytefoo, did you make sure you're using alsa?
[09:59] <bytefoo> how do i check?
[09:59] <Deeghetal> Hello everyone. I'm a completely new Ubuntu user switching from XP. I'm reading the documentation right now but I'm sure I'll have questions later. ;)
[09:59] <tjb891> yes i know but  my coupon to radioshack will get me  Sandisk Sansa e130 at a deep discount and it can hold twice as many wmas as uit can mp3s, i not actaully going to listen to them anywhere else
[09:59] <jrib> Deeghetal: welcome to ubuntu
[10:00] <Dev05> mc__, gnomefreak, whyvas, I'm trying to get my wireless network up with Windows.
[10:00] <Ruffles> bytefoo, multimedia systems selector
[10:00] <Ruffles> bytefoo, right on preferences menu
[10:00] <gnomefreak> Dev05: this is not windows support
[10:00] <Ruffles> windows?
[10:00] <Ruffles> what's windows?
[10:00] <thundr> tjb891: even if you sample the mp3s down?  It might be an issue of encoding them at a smaller bitrate.
[10:00] <Phlexonance> just installed the jre and need to set the path in opera, but I have no idea were the jre installed to
[10:00] <bytefoo> yah it says intel ich6 (alsa mixer)
[10:00] <Whyvas> Dev05, is your wireless card detected?
[10:00] <bytefoo> there is also an oss one too
[10:00] <bytefoo> but it isn't selected
[10:00] <tjb891> ok, good, i really do hate wmas i just like 16 hours of play vs. 8
[10:00] <Dev05> gnomefreak, No, I'm on Linux and I want it to create a network that can talk with windows.
[10:01] <Dev05> Whyvas, Yes I can even see others' networks.
[10:01] <Intangir> Dev05: you might want samba
[10:01] <bytefoo> but it hink that's because i installed alsa-oss so i could firefox to work with sound
[10:01] <Whyvas> Dev05, use samba or NFS
[10:01] <mc__> !samba > Dev05
[10:01] <Deeghetal> I was told that in Ubuntu you shouldn't be logged in as root to install packages and should instead use sudo. Is it BAD to be in root?
[10:01] <Dev05> Intangir, I just want my windows laptop to use Ubuntu's internet connection.
[10:01] <Ruffles> nah
[10:01] <Ruffles> that's just a security option
[10:01] <Ruffles> you can log as root
[10:02] <Deeghetal> It never prompted me to select a root password though is it the same as my user pass?
[10:02] <mc__> Deeghetal, i normally use root if have to execute more then 1 command
[10:02] <Dev05> Whyvas, mc__, You do that with Samba???
[10:02] <Intangir> Dev05: how are they both connected to eachother? and the internet?
[10:02] <Whyvas> Dev05, the laptop is hardwired into the desktop?
[10:02] <Ruffles> Deeghetal, to setup your root password type: sudo passwd root
[10:02] <Deeghetal> ok thankyou
[10:02] <Ruffles> sudo -s
[10:02] <Ruffles> it's ok for me
[10:02] <bobbyw> Deeghetal: no it's not bad, it's just dangerous to use it too much
[10:03] <Intangir> whats -s do?
[10:03] <Dev05> Intangir, Whyvas, Ubuntu connects through Ethernet to Internet. Windows is supposed to connect trough Wireless to Ubuntu and use its Internet connection.
[10:03] <Ruffles> u login as root
[10:03] <Ruffles> sudo -s
[10:03] <Ruffles> it gives u the root bash
[10:03] <Whyvas> Dev05, lookup wireless bridge
[10:03] <Intangir> Dev05: so your using the linux box as a router for it? i think there is something like iptables to do something like that ,but ive never done it
[10:03] <Deeghetal> I'm going to have to get used to using the terminal for everything. ;) I had RedHat a couple years ago but forgot all of the shell commands.
[10:03] <Intangir> i just used hardware routers/ APs
[10:04] <Dev05> Intangir, Yeah...
[10:04] <Phlexonance> just installed the jre and need to set the path in opera, but I have no idea were the jre installed to. where is it?
[10:04] <Ruffles> oh.. another thing.. i've got problems with firestarter
[10:04] <Dev05> Whyvas, How?
[10:04] <Whyvas> there's an app called firestarter that MIGHT do it but i can't remember if it supports sharing over wireless
[10:04] <Ruffles> that thingy is quite a crap!
[10:04] <Intangir> check out iptables? and the 'route' command i think it was
[10:04] <mc__> !iptables > Dev05
[10:04] <Dev05> Whyvas, The thing is that the machines don't see their networks.
[10:05] <Whyvas> Dev05, go to www.google.com, and type wireless bridge ubuntu then click on the search button
[10:05] <Ruffles> when i start firestarter... it used to say failed to start firewall but the firewall started anyway... now it says eth1 is not ready but it's workin'
[10:05] <Intangir> ubuntu is on the internet isnt it?
[10:05] <Intangir> youll proabbly have to set the wireless part to set its own IP, and set some settings
[10:05] <Intangir> throwing in the wireless will make the whole thing more complex ;0
[10:05] <fishy> How do you change the volume of the input levels?
[10:05] <Ruffles> Intangir, man.. linux without internet is like a ferrari without gasoline
[10:05] <SilentJ> Hello
[10:05] <Intangir> probably easier to just go buy a router with ethernet and wireless
[10:05] <bytefoo> bah i will just reinstall ubuntu i guess :/
[10:06] <Whyvas> Dev05, what kind of internet connection are you on? pppoe?
[10:06] <Dev05> Whyvas, eth.
[10:06] <SilentJ> I am having a problem with my internet and ubuntu
[10:06] <Intangir> Ruffles: ya that would be lame
[10:06] <Dev05> Whyvas, Direct to the Modem.
[10:06] <esters> !iptables
[10:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[10:06] <Ruffles> mmmmm
[10:06] <Ruffles> shorewall i'll try that out
[10:06] <sundin> Hi. im trying to download DCgui. but i see that it depends on many many other files. i dl from debians package site. hopw can i install all thoose packages without doing it by hand?
[10:06] <Intangir> Dev05: just go buy a wireless router, with a some ehternet ports too, thats the easiest way, they are only like 30 bucks
[10:07] <Intangir> then you wont have to have the ubuntu box on to use the wireless windows box
[10:07] <SilentJ> Does anyone know if there is a way to update from 5.10 to 6.6 with the Live Desktop CD --- Stupid me I downloaded the Desktop CD when I ment to download the install CD...
[10:08] <Intangir> SilentJ: i dont think so.. but if you have 5.10 installed already
[10:08] <Ruffles> Silencer, apt-get dist-upgrade is the best
[10:08] <Intangir> you dont need a CD at all
[10:08] <fishy> How do you change input volume in Ubuntu?
[10:08] <Intangir> i think you have to update your apt-get sources.list first though dont you?
[10:08] <Dev05> Intangir, I'd be glad if you could convince my father to do so :). He doesn't like Linux and he won't buy a router just for that... :(
[10:08] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: I downloaded gyach-enhanced and typed sudo tar -xjf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2, but nothing is happening, am I doing this right?
[10:08] <Whyvas> Dev05, how old are you?
[10:08] <Dev05> Whyvas, 15.
[10:08] <Intangir> Dev05: how do you get onto the internet with the windows machine?
[10:08] <Ruffles> Dev05, my father complains about my linux for a long time
[10:08] <mc__> Dev05, save your pocket money
[10:08] <Dabain> This is strange
[10:08] <Ruffles> Dev05, they will never change lol
[10:08] <Dabain> glxinfo gives error
[10:09] <SilentJ> well I wanted to download Daper ya know so I downloaded it and it was the live CD which dosent work AT ALL on my computer
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: tar jxzf iirc
[10:09] <Ruffles> microsoft has made their users so stupid
[10:09] <Dabain> I get nvidia log when restarting X
[10:09] <Cntryboy> what is iirc?
[10:09] <Dabain> HelP
[10:09] <mc__> Ruffles, and ubuntu is trying to do the same
[10:09] <SilentJ> Is DAper that much different than Breasy?
[10:09] <Ruffles> mc__, no way
[10:09] <Dabain> ubotu, iirc
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about iirc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:09] <sundin> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/dcgui <--- i dl dcgui from there and do you see all the the packages it depends on? i feel really dumb cause im sitting and installing em by hand :) thanks if you can give me a hint
[10:09] <Intangir> iirc = if i recall corectly
[10:09] <Intangir> dont type that
[10:09] <SilentJ> I have read some much about Daper that I was like Ok I HAVE to get it haha  im dying to see it
[10:09] <mc__> Ruffles, if you make something easy it users tend to be less smart
[10:09] <SilentJ> lol
[10:09] <Dabain> ubotu, iirc is If I Recall Correctly or If I Recollect Correctly
[10:10] <gnomefreak> iirc = if i remember correctly Cntryboy
[10:10] <Wodger> less tenical not less smart
[10:10] <Cntryboy> k
[10:10] <Cntryboy> lol
[10:10] <Dev05> Intangir, I would normally start windows xp and give connectivity to the laptop. But now I got dual-boot with Ubuntu.
[10:10] <Dabain> ubotu, iirc is also if I remember correctly
[10:10] <Intangir> oh..
[10:10] <Dabain> ubotu, iirc
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about iirc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:10] <Dabain> ubotu, You're stupid, aye?
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about You're stupid, aye? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:10] <Ruffles> mc__, my friend has installed kubuntu 2 days ago.. so far he couldn't install a cd with programs he told me he wanted to try out.. but.. when i asked what's the files in cd like he told me they were .tar.gz
[10:10] <mc__> Wodger, less smart in technical things :)
[10:10] <Dev05> And I want Ubuntu to do the same, but I just can't get it to work.
[10:10] <Intangir> Dev05: ok just check out that "iptables" "route" and first check out iwconfig to set up your wireless card
[10:10] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: conflicting errors on that
[10:10] <Wodger> heh mc
[10:11] <Deeghetal> when i add a repository to my list, does it add new programs to "add / remove programs"?
[10:11] <Ruffles> he's been trying to get it workin' for 48hr+ and he wants .exe setup.exe install.exe
[10:11] <Intangir> it can be done
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Dabain: you have to be authorised to add factoids to the bot
[10:11] <Dabain> thoreauputic, Exactly :)
[10:11] <Cntryboy> anyone know correct command for tar.bz2 I tried tar -xjf
[10:11] <Intangir> and without having to pay for any special software. but it involves like 3 different programs
[10:11] <SilentJ> So is  DApper that much better than 5.10???
[10:11] <Intangir> instead of 1 gui
[10:11] <spo0f> SilentJ, just point your repository (apt-config) to  dapper cd-rom and do a dist-upgrade
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: try tar jxf
[10:11] <Ruffles> so.. windows has made him stupid and dependant of setups.exe
[10:11] <SilentJ> I tried
[10:11] <Dabain> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[10:11] <SilentJ> didnt work
[10:11] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: k
[10:11] <Cntryboy> let me try
[10:12] <disposable_mike> Ruffles: are you trying to install .exe on Kubuntu?
[10:12] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, tar -jxvf
[10:12] <Dabain> Why? --> "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"
[10:12] <Wodger> modems are still very common...
[10:12] <Ruffles> disposable_mike, nope!
[10:12] <bobbyw> anyone know why my microphone doesn't work with an outofthebox installation of ubuntu?
[10:12] <SilentJ> How  Long does the Upgrade take? from 5.10 to 6.06??
[10:12] <Intangir> or tell your dad that you ruined your windows install, and if he wants internet again he has to buy a wiress/ethernet combo router
[10:12] <bobbyw> in skype!
[10:12] <euly> Anybody knows, how I can tar a folder /this/is/some/folder/ without tar writing /this/is/some/ into the archive? So when I untar it into /somewhere/else I dont get the whole thing in /somewhere/else/this/is/some/folder but into /somewhere/else/folder ?
[10:12] <Phlexonance> I need to know the path where jre is installed
[10:12] <esters> SilentJ, u need to change /etc/apt/sources.list -> go to easylinux.info and find repositories
[10:12] <Ruffles> hahahahahahahah
[10:12] <Intangir> (just disable it from grub, and restore it after he buys the router)
[10:12] <Dabain> bobbyw, did you plug it in?
[10:12] <Wodger> some of the netgears are very easy/ with wizards and the like
[10:12] <esters> than change them
[10:13] <Ruffles> tell him microsoft has stated that windows will only connect to the net through new routers
[10:13] <Cntryboy> Ruffles: thx that worked, whats the differ in -xjf and -jxvf? usually for regular tar I do - or with out zxvf
[10:13] <Dabain> bobbyw, btw.  skype sucks!
[10:13] <esters> and manage apt-get update and after that apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:13] <Wodger> save money on the power bill as well....
[10:13] <Dev05> Intangir, If I tell him he will just say "Reinstall Windows and don't bother!"
[10:13] <thoreauputic> !iirc
[10:13] <ubotu> IIRC means "if I remember correctly"
[10:13] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:13] <bobbyw> yes it's plugged in
[10:13] <bobbyw> and skype is free right now
[10:13] <Intangir> !gnub
[10:13] <bobbyw> and I smashed my cell phone
[10:13] <Cntryboy> ruffles: I was going by the site I dl'ed this at that said -xjf lol
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnub - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:13] <bobbyw> and I'm broke
[10:13] <bobbyw> so i have no other choice at the moment
[10:13] <Dabain> thoreauputic, thanks .. the original was "recall" though .. iirc :-D
[10:13] <Intangir> !gnubie
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnubie - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:13] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, well.. what i know is.. to extract .tar.gz u use -zxvf and to extract .tar.bz2 u use -jxvf
[10:13] <Ruffles> heheeh
[10:13] <Intangir> hahahha
[10:14] <Dev05> Intangir, But how do I make the machines see themselves, even though I've set routing up?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Dabain: whatever - I think it gets the idea across :)
[10:14] <Phlexonance> I need to know the path where jre is installed
[10:14] <Ruffles> J (bz2)
[10:14] <Dabain> thoreauputic, Right
[10:14] <Ruffles> X (extract)
[10:14] <Cntryboy> kk, so same but drop z and add j kk figured so, but that site told me wrong hehe
[10:14] <Ruffles> V (verbose)
[10:14] <Wodger> by see you mean network?
[10:14] <Ruffles> F (file)
[10:14] <Ruffles> i guess that's what it means
[10:14] <Dabain> thoreauputic, remember is the most common word.
[10:14] <Cntryboy> kk
[10:14] <user-land> Hello, what is the recommended URL for configuring TwinView ?
[10:14] <Wodger> or rather file share?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Dabain: right
[10:15] <Almindor> is the pyPE package broken? (the software that is)
[10:15] <Intangir> Dev05: overwireless? you have to set your wireless settings, and set the linux box to AP
[10:15] <fishy> How do you get a microphone working in Ubuntu?
[10:15] <Cntryboy> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:15] <Cntryboy> gyach still won't run
[10:15] <thoreauputic> Dabain: btw if I have any idea of Seveas's habits that factoid won't survive for long ;-)
[10:15] <Dev05> Intangir, I did, it just doesn't work :(
[10:15] <Cntryboy> even though I seen files extracting
[10:15] <Intangir> user-land: there is a good readme on it directly from the nvidia readme
[10:15] <k20ImportTuner> Can anybody help me get Ubuntu to detect my wireless internet?
[10:15] <Phlexonance> I need to know the path where jre is installed
[10:15] <Dabain> thoreauputic, you happen to have an idea why "glxinfo" is broken while X shows nvidia logo on startup ... (I have to admit I have tried to install XGL)
[10:15] <user-land> intangir, where can i find that ?
[10:16] <Dabain> thoreauputic, A pitty .. its nice to have such factoids IMHO. ;-)
[10:16] <bobbyw> fishy: i'm still trying to figure that one out
[10:16] <Dev05> Intangir, Also, it is an Ad-Hoc Network. That made the difference between working and not-working on Windows...
[10:16] <Cntryboy> ruffles: the site said I have to mv the gunzip tar to root file system, which I did not do in order to be root, but I thought sudo will work just the same way?
[10:16] <Intangir> user-land: 'www.nvidia.com'
[10:16] <Intangir> hahaha ;)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Dabain:  glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[10:16] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:16] <Dabain> thoreauputic, I must agree that they're not Ubuntu specific though.
[10:16] <Cntryboy> ruffles: You must be the ROOT user to install these packages. The FIRST thing you need to do is move all of the .tar.bz2 packages you've just downloaded to the root of your file system by typing mv gyach*.tar.bz2 /.
[10:16] <Intangir> Dev05: sorry i cant be much more help i have never had to set that up myself
[10:16] <Deeghetal> what does "Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" mean?
[10:17] <Intangir> Dev05: my wireless computers just connect thru the wireless router i bought ;)
[10:17] <Wodger> could you not be sudo?
[10:17] <Dabain> thoreauputic, X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[10:17] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, and what's wrong?
[10:17] <fishy> bobbyw: I just have it plugged in to the "audio input" jack, shouldn't it work out of the box?
[10:17] <Intangir> Dev05: tell your dad having a real firewall will protect his shitty windows box from viruses and exploits more
[10:17] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, to get root permissions u can either use sudo command or sudo -s
[10:17] <Deeghetal> I'm root.
[10:17] <Dabain> thoreauputic, Is there a pastebot?  In that case I can paste the full error.
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Dabain: whoa
[10:17] <Cntryboy> Ruffles: i didn't do that, I just typed sudo tar -jxvf filename
[10:17] <fishy> bobbyw: I think I just need to turn the input volume up, but I can't access that because I don't know how to.
[10:17] <Wodger> sudo works for most ./configure make etc
[10:17] <thoreauputic> !paste
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:17] <Intangir> Dev05: being right off the modem means any ports he has open could potentially be exploited
[10:17] <Phlexonance> How can I find out where the JRE installed to? I need the path to set it in my browser
[10:17] <Cntryboy> ruffles: I did do sudo, but did I need to move it to root file system like I pasted what the help said?
[10:18] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, try this: sudo tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2 -C /
[10:18] <bobbyw> fishy: plug it into the microphone jack
[10:18] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, but.. why do you have to extract it into / ????
[10:18] <bobbyw> fishy: double click the volume icon in the system tray
[10:18] <Dev05> Intangir, No, he connects through MY pc...
[10:18] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, locate *flash*.xpt
[10:18] <Cntryboy> ruffles: I'm not sure what I pasted is what it said to do first, then go there and then do the tar commands
[10:18] <Intangir> user-land: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[10:18] <fishy> bobbyw: I'm not in GNOME, I'm in Fluxbox. What's the command to open that dialog?
[10:18] <Intangir> doh..
[10:18] <Wodger> well okay your pc when in windows then
[10:18] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: flash? i need java
[10:19] <Cntryboy> ruffles: if you don't mind looking this is what im looking at http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/install.php#gyachb
[10:19] <Ruffles> ok sure
[10:19] <Cntryboy> its for gyach yahoo msger with voice
[10:19] <JDredd> I'm using gdebi package installer and I'm getting a 'broken cache' error, is it possible to fix this offline?
[10:19] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, oh lol
[10:19] <Ruffles> pardon me
[10:19] <Ruffles> hahaha
[10:19] <Cntryboy> ruffles: go down to where u c Gyach-E / pY! Voice Chat: Binary .tar.bz2 Package:
[10:19] <FogHemlock> hello al
[10:19] <bobbyw> gnome-volume-control
[10:19] <Intangir> gnome-volume-control
[10:19] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, locate libjavaplugin_oji.so
[10:19] <bobbyw> gnome-volume-manager
[10:19] <Dabian> tho: You got the paste?
[10:20] <Dabian> argh .. he fled!
[10:20] <YuuKajima> can someone tell me where I can find the ubuntu patches?  (as in, the tar.bz2 file for them?)
[10:20] <Intangir> _TomB hey dont i know you
[10:20] <FogHemlock> what is the difference between ubuntu xubuntu and kubuntu?
[10:20] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: didnt find anything
[10:20] <Intangir> your in #garagegames ?
[10:20] <djcronos> Hi all, does anyone here have experience with mounting SCSI Tape Libraries in Ubuntu?
[10:20] <crimsun> FogHemlock: the default desktop environment installed
[10:20] <bobbyw> FogHemlock: the gui
[10:20] <esters> FogHemlock, different graphical gui
[10:20] <Dabian> Noone here can help me with X problems and opengl?
[10:20] <Dev05> FogHemlock, Xubuntu using the Xfce environment while Kubuntu uses KDE.
[10:21] <Intangir> Dabian: whats what wit hit?
[10:21] <bobbyw> Dabian: what problem?
[10:21] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, try find / -name *libjavaplugin_oji.so*
[10:21] <FogHemlock> when i get the free cd can i download anyone i want?
[10:21] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, PVT
[10:21] <Dabian> I see the logo when X start, but I cannot run glxgears
[10:21] <Dabian> It used to work.
[10:21] <Almindor> I get distorted font in various python programs using wxWidgets (the characters are all small squares with numbers), anyone knows what might be wrong?
[10:21] <Cntryboy> ruffles: PVT?
[10:21] <YuuKajima> can someone tell me where I can find the ubuntu patches?  (as in, the tar.bz2 file for them?)
[10:21] <djcronos> I'm trying to mount a Qualstar TLS-4480 SCSI Tape Library, but I want to make sure that Ubuntu sees it first.  What can I do to first see if Ubuntu recognizes it, and do I need to install any additional packages to get SCSI support?
[10:21] <Dabian> Here is the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18877
[10:21] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, before doin' so try opening your firefox and typing about:plugins in the address bar
[10:22] <Flannel> FogHemlock: yeah, it's easy to switch between them, or have all of them installed if you want even
[10:22] <FogHemlock> ok thx alot!
[10:22] <FogHemlock> take care bye
[10:22] <Dev05> FogHemlock, You could download Ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop and it will add KDE.
[10:22] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: found 2, difference is one has "ns7-gcc29" in it and the other just "ns7"
[10:22] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, use ns7
[10:22] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: and its opera ;) but opera:plugins works too, ok thx a lot
[10:23] <Enverex> Erm, is Audacity supposed to look AWFUL (it looks like GTK0.1 or something) and are there any better editors?
[10:23] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, ns7-gcc29 is for browsers compiled with gcc29
[10:23] <cavedive1> hello. It seems network options in dapper doesn't do wpa2, only wep.
[10:23] <Cntryboy> ruffles: what is PVT?
[10:23] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, look..
[10:23] <cavedive1> Is there anything one can do for activating wpa2?
[10:23] <Dabian> cavedive1, you don't need wpa2.
[10:23] <Dev05> * Tired of the command line after three days...
[10:23] <crimsun> Enverex: yes, it's supposed to look "awful".
[10:23] <k20ImportTuner> Can anybody help me configure my wireless internet for Ubuntu on my laptop??
[10:23] <Wodger> use wpa1
[10:23] <Cntryboy> ruffles: at that site?
[10:24] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, u don't need to move the files into the / directory.. just try tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2 -C /
[10:24] <Dabian> cavedive1, wpa-psk is good enough for ya, just keep ESSID secret.
[10:24] <fishy> What's the command to open the volume control app?
[10:24] <Wodger> wpa is s
[10:24] <Wodger> strong
[10:24] <Ruffles> fishy, gnome-volume-control ?
[10:24] <cavedive1> only wep seems to be availible
[10:24] <Enverex> crimsun, I'm sure it didn't used to look like this unless the one in Gentoo is either newer or different....
[10:24] <seanh> Hi all, trying to get a pcmcia wireless card working, lshw calls it a Texas Instruments ACX 111, the wiki says these should work out of the box. I can see and acticvate the card, but it sees no networks
[10:24] <Cntryboy> ruffles what does -C / mean
[10:24] <Dabian> cavedive1, what ugly router is that?
[10:24] <Cntryboy> js im going to paste this in paste bin really fast
[10:24] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, extracts the files into the place you specify
[10:24] <user-land> how can i kill the xserver ? it restarts automatically all the time ...
[10:24] <Ruffles> it'll extract the file into /
[10:24] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: when I hit the "validate path" button it tells me its incorrect
[10:24] <k20ImportTuner> Can anybody help me get wireless internet working in Ubuntu on my laptop?
[10:25] <Dabian> user-land, then you know how to kill it.
[10:25] <user-land> i need to rpkg-reconfigure it.
[10:25] <cavedive1> Dabian: no in ubuntu I mean. Router has wpa2 support
[10:25] <cavedive1> Dabian: I can only type in a wep-key.
[10:25] <Dabian> user-land, you just don't know how to stop it from respawning! :-)
[10:25] <Intangir> seanh: did you tell it the name if the wiress.. thing?
[10:25] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, maybe you're not using the correct plugin
[10:25] <cavedive1> Nothing about wpa
[10:25] <crimsun> Enverex: Gentoo may have enabled gtk2 and unicode for wxwindows2.4
[10:25] <Dabian> cavedive1, you might want restricted sources enabled.
[10:25] <user-land> dabian, do you know how to do it ?
[10:25] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[10:25] <crimsun> Enverex: (we don't, because it's utterly broken)
[10:25] <Enverex> crimsun, Ah
[10:25] <seanh> Intangir - huh? I'm telling it to look for networks to join, but it can't see any, it lists none
[10:25] <Dabian> user-land, if you're using gdm: sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop
[10:25] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, have you created a link?
[10:25] <cavedive1> Dabian: think I have that. Do i need to install something ?
[10:25] <Enverex> crimsun, Are there any other editors? Audacity really seems to be lacking.. in most ways, heh
[10:26] <Intangir> seanh: how do you tell it to look? i had to just type in the name of mine
[10:26] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: no
[10:26] <Intangir> some of them dont advertise so they wont be found
[10:26] <Dabian> user-land, if you're using gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:26] <cavedive1> I installed network.manager but I can't sem to figure out how to start it
[10:26] <Dabian> cavedive1, nas
[10:26] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, you have to
[10:26] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[10:26] <Cntryboy> ruffles: do you care to look at this extracting of the files? http://pastebin.ca/100003    , it says it placed it in a certain dir, then if u look at the end I try to go there and it's not made what gives?
[10:26] <cavedive1> nas?
[10:26] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: never had to before
[10:26] <Phlexonance> Ruffles: but otherwise never had to fill in this thing myself
[10:26] <Ruffles> Phlexonance, link that file to your opera's plugin folder
[10:26] <gebruiker> drapper is released? sins when?
[10:26] <Dabian> hehehehheeee!
[10:26] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, i'll take a look
[10:27] <seanh> Intangir - in System-Administration-Networking, setup the card to use DHCP (in Properties) then activate the card, then go intoo Properties again, you should have a drop-down list of all the networks in range, but I'm getting none
[10:27] <Cntryboy> ruffles: thx
[10:27] <gebruiker> drapper is released?  when?
[10:27] <Dabian> gebruiker, "since when" :-)
[10:27] <Ruffles> gebruiker, quite a long time ago :)
[10:27] <Intangir> seanh: your wireless AP might be set up to not send that information, mines set up to not 'advertise' it doesnt broadcast anything about itself to people trying to join
[10:27] <Flannel> gebruiker: Dapper has been released since June
[10:27] <Dabian> first of june or something.
[10:27] <Intangir> seanh: thats usually a good idea
[10:27] <gebruiker> how do I upgrade...
[10:27] <cavedive1> Seems to be network-manager that is the solution
[10:27] <Enverex> Does anyone know of any good sound editors?
[10:27] <cavedive1> How do i run that?
[10:27] <gebruiker> I run breezy
[10:28] <Flannel> gebruiker: gksudo update-manager
[10:28] <gdb> !upgrade
[10:28] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:28] <cavedive1> I did apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[10:28] <seanh> Intangir - no, there is definitely a network in here it should see. I just gave it the network name myself though, and it's not connecting to it
[10:28] <Dabian> gebruiker, Its on the web: http://www.ubuntulinux.org or something.
[10:28] <Cntryboy> never heard of drapper, but dapper has been out awhile
[10:28] <Intangir> seanh: make sure you give the name, the SSID, and the password info
[10:28] <psybapunk> can someone help me?
[10:28] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, u didn't seem to have typed the correct command
[10:28] <Dabian> gebruiker, listen to the link ubotu is talking about.
[10:29] <seanh> Intangir - there's no such info, it's DHCP connect
[10:29] <Dabian> !tell gebruiker about upgrade
[10:29] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, u've extracted the file into your Desktop directory
[10:29] <Intangir> seanh: its wireless right?
[10:29] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, sudo tar -jxvf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2 -C /
[10:29] <seanh> Intangir - yes
[10:29] <Dabian> ok
[10:29] <psybapunk> I have ubuntu installed on a partition of my HDD, but I have no bootloader, how do I install grub?
[10:29] <Dabian> Nobody can help me here.
[10:29] <Dabian> Good night.
[10:29] <Intangir> seanh: wireless need name and SSID at least to connect, and usually a password too
[10:29] <Ruffles> Dabian,
[10:29] <cavediver> grub-install /dev/sd?
[10:29] <Ruffles> what's your problem?
[10:29] <Flannel> psybapunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:29] <Intangir> seanh: WEP password, or WPA preshared key stuff
[10:29] <Dabian> Ruffles, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18877
[10:30] <Intangir> seanh: i think default SSID for most networks is 6
[10:30] <Cntryboy> Ruffles: ahh Okay, i see the dir on desktop now, so when i do tar.bz2 files do I always need to specify with -C / ? i haven't b4
[10:30] <cavediver> hmm
[10:30] <psybapunk> thank you gentlemen
[10:30] <cavediver> where did that network-manager go?
[10:30] <Intangir> seanh: or maybe that was the channel, and ssid was the name of it.. i cant recall
[10:30] <fishy> Do simple line-in microphone work in Ubuntu?
[10:30] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, no man.. -C is an option.. it just lets you select where you wanna extract the files at
[10:30] <Deeghetal> I'm trying to get the canonical repository added to synaptic but it gives me a 404 error when i refresh
[10:31] <Intangir> seanh: your card shows up the right? a wireless card? when you goto network settings?
[10:31] <Cntryboy> ahh okay so If I dont use it, it will extract them do what ever dir im running command from right?
[10:31] <seanh> Intangir - the ESSID is the network name, like "my network", if the network is open, as this one is, that's all you should need. Anyway, the netowrk is advertised, so it shuold see it
[10:31] <Ruffles> Dabian, man i'm sorry but i don't understand what your problem is
[10:31] <Dabian> Ruffles, opengl is not working
[10:31] <Flannel> Deeghetal: which url you using?
[10:31] <Dabian> Ruffles, it used to work, I have nvidia gfx card.
[10:31] <Ruffles> Dabian, ic.. have you read the ubuntuforums ?
[10:31] <seanh> Intangir - Yeah, I can se the card, but it sees no networks
[10:31] <Intangir> seanh: could you just be too far away?
[10:31] <thundr> I need help getting my wireless going.  Can anyone help?
[10:31] <Deeghetal> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[10:31] <YuuKajima> anyone able to tell me where Ubuntu's kernel patches are?  I need like, a tar.gz or a tar.bz2
[10:31] <Dabian> Ruffles, it used to work, I followed the instructions on the wiki.
[10:31] <seanh> Intangir - I don't think so
[10:32] <Ruffles> Dabian, follow all the instructions all the way over once again
[10:32] <Dabian> Ruffles, I tried however, to install xgl .. I guess that spoiled it.
[10:32] <Cntryboy> Ruffles: am I right?
[10:32] <Dabian> Ruffles, I did .. the problem is .. the logo should prove that its working .. but ..
[10:32] <Flannel> Deeghetal: hmm, well, it exists.  You want to paste your entire sources.list?  Can you get there (http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu) in a browser?
[10:32] <Cntryboy> dabian: xgl is cool, is urs working
[10:32] <narfmaster> YuuKajima, you should be able to find them at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:32] <Intangir> seanh: hrm im out of ideas then, i know at my house mywireless stuff downstairs had a hard time picking up my access point until i moved it to a place where fewer walls were between us
[10:32] <Dabian> Ruffles, but I still get this error.
[10:32] <Deeghetal> yes i can get there from browser
[10:32] <Dabian> Cntryboy, I never made it work.
[10:32] <zazeem> help me please, i cant figure out how to install mx310 logitech mouse drivers, i followed a guide on ubuntu but the sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/19-local.rules is completely empty when i open it :(
[10:32] <Ruffles> Dabian, if i were you i would do the steps again
[10:33] <Deeghetal> could it have something to do with the fact that i use x86_64?
[10:33] <synthjet> hi.. I was trying for triple boot (ubuntu-1, ubuntu-2 and xp) and screwed up my grub: now ubuntu-2 doesnt boot at all, though getting mounted.. any suggestions plz?
[10:33] <Dabian> Ruffles, is worth a try .. thanks for the advise.
[10:33] <loserboy> hey I somewhere that there was gonna be an irc class in this channel one day...anyone know what i'm talkin about
[10:33] <sundin> Hi. ive tried installing with several commands :) im not so wise. and i cant remember them. but when i try to install dcgui i need more packages before installing. ive tried to install them. but they are just more and more after each package i install. is there anyway to install dcgui auto so it dl dependable packages on its own?
[10:33] <Ruffles> Dabian, you're welcome
[10:33] <bobbyw> is there an easier way to install stuff like musicbrainz picard then to go through ALL the dependencies in the install file, find them, download configure, make, instal them?
[10:33] <Cntryboy> dabian: you said you tried to install it , go to ubuntu-xgl if u need help with xgl stuff
[10:33] <Intangir> zazeem: thats not part of the udev stuff, the local rules file is your custom rules file
[10:33] <Intangir> zazeem: i named mine 10-local.rules
[10:33] <sundin> bobby i was on the same q :)
[10:34] <Ruffles> synthjet, adjust your grub optinos
[10:34] <zazeem> intangie: what does that mean? im new, how do i do it?
[10:34] <Ruffles> optinos
[10:34] <Ruffles> options
[10:34] <Ruffles> darn!
[10:34] <Ruffles> lol
[10:34] <sundin> i installed lots of dependicies. but damn someone is always wrong and cant be installed.
[10:34] <Dabian> Cntryboy, thanks .. right now I just trying to get OpenGL working alltogether though.
[10:34] <Deeghetal> do you want me to paste my source list? I know some iRC's frown on pasting.
[10:34] <zazeem> intangie: so it should be blank?
[10:34] <Intangir> zazeem: are you just trying to load the driver? what happens if you modprobe the driver? does that make it work?
[10:34] <bobbyw> is there an easier way to install stuff like musicbrainz picard then to go through ALL the dependencies in the install file, find them, download configure, make, instal them?
[10:34] <zazeem> modprobe?
[10:34] <synthjet> :) Ruffles I have been playing around with grub..
[10:34] <Intangir> zazeem: modprobe loads a driver if you can use it
[10:34] <Flannel> zazeem: er, you shouldn't need drivers.  It'll work out of the box.  For, extra buttons, you can follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[10:34] <Cntryboy> dabian: oh okay
[10:34] <zazeem> intangie: is it possible to download mx310 drivers?
[10:35] <Intangir> if your on ubuntu you proabbly already have it
[10:35] <Dabian> Cntryboy, my trying to install xgl seems to have ruined it.
[10:35] <Intangir> and ya it should work out of th box
[10:35] <zazeem> intangie: it works, but it works like crap.  the side buttons dont work and in games it just plain blows
[10:35] <sundin> bbl
[10:35] <synthjet> the prob is: Error 15 file not found or sometimes root fs doesnt get loaded during boot.. tried Gentoo's guide also.. but invain
[10:35] <seanh> Anyone know if Dapper has the open sourcde ACX1000 wireless driver included?
[10:35] <Somethingone> Hello there. I'm trying to change my scource list so I can apt get VLC following the advice on this site http://www.jigsawboys.com/2006/03/28/xvid-and-divx-on-ubuntu-linux/ But I can't save what iv'e written, as it's read only!
[10:35] <zazeem> intangie: what is modprobe?
[10:35] <Cntryboy> dabian: so ur opengl was working fine until xgl?
[10:36] <Intangir> zazeem: it loads kernel drivers
[10:36] <gebruike1> I have two issues 1) How do i restore my root passwd I changed it to qwerty, the default root passwd is nothing.. ? 2)  VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3344 (rev 01)
[10:36] <Ruffles> Somethingone, do that using root permissions
[10:36] <zazeem> intangie: how do i get it?
[10:36] <Flannel> !paste
[10:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:36] <gebruike1> I have two issues 1) How do i restore my root passwd I changed it to qwerty, the default root passwd is nothing.. ? 2)  VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3344 (rev 01) . lspci doesn't see my videocard... help!
[10:36] <ubuntu> hi room
[10:36] <Flannel> Deeghetal: you use that for pasting
[10:36] <sundin> damn wastnt logged on as root bbl
[10:36] <mortal> gebruike1: you have issues?
[10:36] <mortal> ;)
[10:36] <Dabian> Cntryboy, yeah .. not sure that ruined it though.
[10:36] <gebruike1>  mortal uhuh
[10:36] <crimsun> seanh: it has the ACX100 driver.
[10:36] <Somethingone> Kay Ruffles, but umm, how do I get into Root? I don't remember setting a root password.
[10:36] <thundr> Does ubuntu only support WEP for wireless encryption?
[10:36] <ubuntu> gebruike1, hi
[10:36] <Dabian> Cntryboy, could be some of the other stuff I fiddled with.
[10:36] <crimsun> seanh: doesn't appear to have ACX1000.
[10:36] <Flannel> gebruike1: er, what?  Root starts disabled yes, are you trying to reenable it?
[10:37] <crimsun> seanh: sorry, I'm looking at Edgy
[10:37] <Dabian> Cntryboy, took me a while to realise why the games stopped working.
[10:37] <Flannel> Somethingone: there is no root password, there is no root account by default
[10:37] <Ruffles> Somethingone, sudo -s
[10:37] <thundr> Somethingone: you use sudo
[10:37] <Cntryboy> dabian: did you try to reinstall the nvidia drivers ect.
[10:37] <Ruffles> Somethingone, or.. sudo command
[10:37] <Whyvas> thundr, no, wpasupplicant
[10:37] <ubuntu> gebruike1,  try this
[10:37] <zazeem> intangie: how do i get it?
[10:37] <Somethingone> Okay
[10:37] <gebruike1> Flannel hi, no I want to disable it again, i invoked passwd and changed it.
[10:37] <cavediver> i need help getting network manager to work.
[10:37] <Ruffles> in this case: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <ubuntu> gebruike1,  sudo passwd root
[10:37] <Ruffles> got it Somethingone ?
[10:37] <crimsun> seanh: yes, Dapper does, too.
[10:37] <Flannel> gebruike1: set the password to nothing (a blank)
[10:37] <Somethingone> Umm, well I put in the run thingy sudo -s
[10:37] <crimsun> seanh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=acx.ko&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[10:37] <thundr> Whyvas: where do I find that?  All I see in network settings is a wep key
[10:37] <Flannel> Somethingone: just use sudo
[10:38] <Whyvas> thundr, in the package manager
[10:38] <Flannel> Somethingone: no need for the -s
[10:38] <k20ImportTuner> Can anybody help me get wireless internet working in Ubuntu on my laptop?
[10:38] <Ruffles> no man!
[10:38] <Ruffles> lol
[10:38] <synthjet> Ruffles/others, any lead plz? "the prob is: Error 15 file not found or sometimes root fs doesnt get loaded during boot.. tried Gentoo's grub guide also.. but invain"
[10:38] <Ruffles> Somethingone, not in the run
[10:38] <gebruike1> Flannel ok, what about lspci that doesn't detect my videocard.... it just says GA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3344 (rev 01)
[10:38] <Somethingone> Kay! So where do I run sudo?
[10:38] <cavediver> I installed network-manager but It doesn't show up when I want to add it to the panel
[10:38] <Intangir> zazeem: if you dont type my name right its harder to pick out when your talking to me
[10:38] <Flannel> Somethingone: a terminal, what are you running?
[10:38] <Intangir> zazeem: you already have modprobe, you use it from the command line
[10:38] <gebruike1> Flannel: just pressing return after invoking passwd doesn't work
[10:38] <Ruffles> synth7, r u trying to setup a bootsplash image?
[10:38] <seanh> crimsun - okay, I got dapper installed, ACX111 wireless card, the card appears but it fails to see any networks, Any help?
[10:38] <Ruffles> Somethingone, open a terminal
[10:39] <synthjet> nope.. installed the OS.. now having prob booting one of them
[10:39] <Somethingone> Ubuntu 6.06, I don't know where the terminal is. It's different to the last distro I used
[10:39] <zazeem> o sdorry
[10:39] <Ruffles> Somethingone, then type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <Flannel> Somethingone: right, what command are you running?
[10:39] <crimsun> seanh: nope, I don't have that hardware. Check the wiki, mailing lists, and forum.
[10:39] <ubuntu> Somethingone,  press alt+f2
[10:39] <Intangir> Somethingone: accessories->terminal ;)
[10:39] <Ruffles> Somethingone, applications / accessories
[10:39] <gebruike1> Flannel: ?
[10:39] <Somethingone> Thankyou!
[10:39] <Intangir> i set a hotkey for mine to Win-T
[10:39] <zazeem> intangir: how do i make it install my mouse?
[10:39] <Ruffles> Intangir, good idea dude
[10:40] <Cntryboy> dabian: most games won't work if you are using xgl, but u said its not working. What X are you currently in
[10:40] <Ruffles> Intangir, how do i do that?
[10:40] <Dabian> Cntryboy, how do I know?
[10:40] <Cntryboy> I mean they will work, but it messes with DRI
[10:40] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:40] <Intangir> Ruffles: System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts
[10:40] <mwe> xgl made nothing else work with dri for me
[10:40] <Intangir> one of them is 'run a terminal'
[10:40] <Cntryboy> dabian: log out and then go to session and pick the X you use b4 xgl, like for me kde
[10:40] <Ruffles> Intangir, thanks bro
[10:40] <Ruffles> Intangir, that's interesting :)
[10:40] <Intangir> also make sure you set your keyboard properties to use Windows key as Meta
[10:40] <Intangir> or whatever
[10:41] <OoberMick> gebruike1: to start with the root account is set with a "random" password
[10:41] <Ruffles> my keyb's ok
[10:41] <Intangir> theres like several things you can make the win keys do
[10:41] <Flannel> gebruike1: sudo passwd -l root
[10:41] <Intangir> but by default im not sure they send anything..
[10:41] <ubuntu> can i ask a question plz?
[10:41] <zazeem> intangir: how do i make it install my mouse?
[10:41] <Dabian> Cntryboy, I just asked in #ubuntu-xgl .. and they see the error quite often with 64-bit machines, it seems...
[10:41] <mwe> Flannel, and undermine the idea of using sudo
[10:42] <Intangir> zazeem: i dont know, depends on what driver the mouse needs, it shouldve worked automatically
[10:42] <Flannel> mwe: what?
[10:42] <Cntryboy> dabian: okay
[10:42] <gebruike1> Flannel: what does -l do?
[10:42] <Gullstad> Quit: Connection reset by beer.
[10:42] <thundr> ubuntu: go ahead and ask.  There's no need to ask to ask a question.
[10:42] <mwe> Flannel, nevermind. I misread
[10:42] <Ruffles> Intangir, hey man
[10:42] <ubuntu> thundr, ok, ty
[10:42] <Ruffles> Intangir, i can't figure that out
[10:42] <Intangir> Ruffles: which part?
[10:42] <ubuntu> how do i update my ubuntu from 5 to 6 via net?
[10:43] <matheus> hello!
[10:43] <Flannel> gebruike1: it locks the root account
[10:43] <Cntryboy> ruffles: I need libgtkhtml-2.so.0 , is it in apt-get?
[10:43] <Intangir> ubuntu: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:43] <Flannel> ubuntu: are you on 5.10 or 5.04?
[10:43] <Intangir> i think..
[10:43] <Ruffles> Cntryboy, i think sop
[10:43] <ubuntu> 5.10
[10:43] <mwe> Flannel, sudo passwd root what was jumped to my eyes, missed the -l :)
[10:43] <Flannel> ubuntu: are you up to date on all your packages?
[10:43] <matheus> are there any webdeveloper here?
[10:43] <Ruffles> Intangir, i can't figure out how to set the shortcut.. it ain't accepting the combination.. as soon as i press windows it deselects
[10:43] <Ruffles> it doesn't let me put win+t
[10:43] <thundr> ubuntu: You're on Breezy, so all you have to do is go to this site (let me find it)
[10:43] <ubuntu> Flannel, i did not install much , just add xfce support
[10:44] <Intangir> Ruffles: goto System-Preferences->Keyboard
[10:44] <Intangir> Ruffles: then layout options
[10:44] <Flannel> ubuntu: but, are you up to date on your packages?
[10:44] <Cntryboy> ruffles: eh it didn't work in apt-get
[10:44] <Intangir> Ruffles: then select win/Alt key behavoir
[10:44] <ubuntu> Flannel,  yes
[10:44] <Intangir> Ruffles: then tell it to bind meta to win keys
[10:44] <Flannel> ubuntu: gksudo update-manager  there will be a box at the top asking if you want to upgrade to a new version
[10:44] <matheus> anyone know about a tableless irc channel ?
[10:44] <niklas_> can somebody help me get direct rendering to work with Nvidia and xgl compiz?
[10:44] <Flannel> matheus: er?  #css
[10:44] <Intangir> Ruffles: then try the shortcuts again
[10:44] <ubuntu> Flannel,  ok ty i'll try it out
[10:44] <Cntryboy> niklas: try ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <Enverex> hmm, shouldn't update-manager -d give me the option to upgrade to Edgy?
[10:45] <mwe> niklas_, xgl caused nothing else to be able to use dri for me
[10:45] <thundr> ubuntu: Go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[10:45] <niklas_> Cntryboy, thx
[10:45] <ubuntu> Flannel,  it say ' your system is upto date"
[10:45] <Warbo> Nvidia doesn't have DRI does it?
[10:45] <ubuntu> thundr, chking now, ty
[10:45] <Somethingone> So far so good, terminal/apt-get recognises the new addresses I gave it
[10:46] <zazeem> can some one tell me if there is a linux mouse patch that gets rid of mouse accel
[10:46] <Flannel> ubuntu: no box above it?  Alright, youll have to manually do it then.  No idea why it doesnt work half the time.  Use the link a few ago that thundr gave
[10:46] <Warbo> zazeem: Surely you could just turn it down?
[10:46] <Intangir> ubuntu: goto /etc/apt/sources.list, open it up, change anywhere you see 'breezy' to 'dapper'
[10:46] <Intangir> ubuntu: then do 'apt-get update'
[10:46] <Intangir> ubuntu: then 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:47] <thundr> Flannel: I just did the update-manager today from breezy and you have to enable the breezy-updates repository before you get the newest version of it
[10:47] <ubuntu> Intangir,  ok ty
[10:47] <ciplogic> I get an error on xserver-xorg: "missing fixed font" what I should do?
[10:47] <zazeem> Warbo: no then the mouse hardly moves, i need it gone in games. There is no available logitech driver programs for linux for mx mice'?
[10:47] <Flannel> thundr: ah, breezy updates.  I say, It's been nagging me whenever I turn on my GUI, but no one else ever seems to have it work ;)
[10:47] <ciplogic> I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:47] <ciplogic> but nothing
[10:48] <Somethingone> Intangir: When you say change any instance of breezy to dapper, would it also apply to this? http://www.jigsawboys.com/2006/03/28/xvid-and-divx-on-ubuntu-linux/
[10:48] <Warbo> zazeem: Usually the drivers just deal with really low-level stuff, and the settings aree more general for any pointing device
[10:48] <Cntryboy> Anyone know what the command is to see if I have Gtk-2 installed
[10:48] <Flannel> Somethingone: yes. "breezy universe" gets changed to "dapper universe"
[10:48] <Cntryboy> besides going to adept
[10:48] <thundr> Intangir: the command the official update pages gives is sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:48] <zazeem> Warbo: well in game when i use my moue its way faster for some reason. I have smooth mouse and accel of in game as well
[10:48] <Warbo> zazeem: Although I can't think of which options you would need to change though (the mouse sections of my X config are usually the only bits which require no tweaking :) )
[10:49] <Intangir> ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[10:49] <mwe> Cntryboy, dpkg -l|grep libgtk and look for it
[10:49] <syndicate47> when i run "apt-get source libtunepimp" it complains "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde-latest_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)". can anyone help?
[10:49] <Intangir> ubuntu: you might want to read that, it says nearly the same thing but stresses to type it right or you will hose your system
[10:49] <ubuntu> Intangir, ty
[10:49] <ciplogic> someone may help to fix xserver start?
[10:49] <Intangir> ubuntu: basically you just have to be root
[10:49] <Intangir> ubuntu: and dont do dist-upgrade unless update for sure works
[10:49] <ciplogic> It brokes when I do a dist-upgrade
[10:49] <ubuntu> Is it worth it?
[10:49] <Intangir> ubuntu: i like it
[10:49] <Cntryboy> mwe: did you mistype that command?
[10:49] <ubuntu> anything new in 6 or is it same?
[10:49] <thundr> Ubuntu: I like it too
[10:49] <ubuntu> ok
[10:49] <Intangir> ubuntu: i never used 5 so i wouldnt know
[10:50] <zazeem> Warbo: for one my mouse gos back on we pages when i scroll my wheel up fast, and forward when i scroll the wheel down. Should be my side buttons which dont work :/
[10:50] <Intangir> i used debian, and the beta of 6 and loved ubuntu alot ;)
[10:50] <thundr> ubuntu: the add/remove programs is much better
[10:50] <mwe> Cntryboy, no. dpkg -l lists all installed packages. grep libgtk prints just lines containing libgtk
[10:50] <Flannel> zazeem: this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[10:50] <ubuntu> yes i liked ubuntu and slackware
[10:50] <ubuntu> both r nice OS
[10:50] <mwe> Cntryboy, it should be libgtk+ somethin iirc
[10:50] <zazeem> thnx
[10:50] <Intangir> ubuntu: i havent tried slackware for yeears, i didnt like ti then
[10:50] <Intangir> i hated mandrake..
[10:50] <ciplogic> someone may say how to reconfigure x11 fonts?
[10:50] <Somethingone> Too bad the VLC thing is an .au address. I'd prefer .co.uk or at least .ie or .be
[10:51] <Intangir> it was buggy right from the start..
[10:51] <SGL> Hello
[10:51] <Warbo> zazeem: The wheel is controlled with a "Z-axis" section of the config I think (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) and it is usually buttons 4 and 5 (up and down)
[10:51] <thundr> Intangir: I tried slax, it's not bad.
[10:51] <Intangir> debian was great, but not as friendly as ubuntu
[10:51] <SGL> How can I open a .zip archive as the root??
[10:51] <Intangir> gentoo was a huge pain in the ass
[10:51] <Flannel> Somethingone: those are just the universe repository.  That page is poor, it should tell you to just add universe.
[10:51] <ubuntu> Ubuntu is like walk in the park
[10:51] <zazeem> Warbo: i c
[10:51] <ubuntu> it installed faster then winblows
[10:51] <Flannel> Somethingone: those lines should already be in your sources.list, waiting to be uncommented
[10:51] <Cntryboy> mwe: I have several listings
[10:51] <Cntryboy> mwe:
[10:51] <Intangir> ubuntu = user friendly ;) its what an OS should be, the computer isnt for setting up the OS
[10:51] <Cntryboy> Common files for the GTK+ library
[10:51] <Cntryboy> ii  libgtk2.0-0                            2.8.18-0ubuntu2
[10:51] <Intangir> thats supposed to be easy ;)
[10:51] <Intangir> with ubuntu IT IS :)
[10:51] <Cntryboy> blah humbug
[10:52] <mwe> Cntryboy, good you have it
[10:52] <Warbo> Intangir: I like Debian, mainly since there is no "trivial" seperation of the repositories like main/universe in Ubuntu, but when I screw up my Debian system (which is a lot) it takes longer to rebuild then Ubuntu
[10:52] <Cntryboy> mwe: but I still get this error trying to run gyach..   gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkhtml-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:52] <Flannel> Somethingone: you can follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[10:52] <ubuntu> i have never used debian
[10:52] <Somethingone> I liked arklinux, nicer than ret hat (but red hat is what you use in a CCNA, so no choices there), but it was buggy. ACPI didn't work of all things! Ubuntu works. Too bad I got a couple of win32 apps for doing circuit diagrams.
[10:52] <iradio> ubuntu is crashing on bootup --- gives a glibc error when loading the Enterprise Volume Management System. How can I fix?
[10:53] <polpak> Somethingone: tried them with wine?
[10:53] <mwe> Cntryboy, that's some other library, see the 'html' in the name?
[10:53] <ciplogic> iradio: rare people help you here, they mostly enjoy to praise their desktop at home ;)
[10:53] <Somethingone> Iv'e never used wine
[10:53] <Warbo> iradio: Do you need EVMS? You may change the links in /etc/rcX.d from S to K
[10:53] <Intangir> Warbo: ya its weird to have them seperate isnt it, i mean everyone just enables them all ;), but at least from aptitude you can see which ones are from the 'official' repos, i tend to go with the ones with the ubuntu icon of authentisitah! :)
[10:53] <Somethingone> but they're simple enough programs. It might work.
[10:53] <mrcoyote> loool trop tordu  doom3 tourne po sur xgl
[10:53] <ubuntu> well ty guys , so much
[10:53] <thundr> Intangir: My dad actually installed it by himself and he didn't even wipe the whole drive.  He usually only uses the computer for freecell.  Everything was intact when I checked it the next day.  I was impressed.
[10:53] <ubuntu> tc and god bless all
[10:53] <Somethingone> No directx or .net or c~ bollocks
[10:53] <Intangir> i mean from synaptic
[10:53] <mwe> Cntryboy, apt-cache search gtkhtml maybe? did you install your program with apt?
[10:53] <thundr> good luck, ubuntu
[10:53] <comtech> Warbo, yes you need evms
[10:54] <iradio> Warbo: EVMS is installed...and crashing on bootup. Are you suggesting I just don't load it?
[10:54] <polpak> Somethingone: www.winehq.org and they have a repository for getting the most recent versions
[10:54] <ubuntu> thundr, ty, i need it :)
[10:54] <Intangir> thundr: ya ;) ubuntu is the only one that a newb can easily install
[10:54] <ubuntu> well ciao
[10:54] <Warbo> Intangir: Multiverse should stay seperate, but Universe seems a bit silly. It is so Ubuntu can offer commercial support better, by focusing on main, but that doesn't interest me
[10:54] <Intangir> thundr: although sometimes it installed grub on the wrong spot .. ;(
[10:54] <thundr> As long as it works, Intangir
[10:54] <Warbo> iradio: Changing the S to a K will stop it loading
[10:54] <Somethingone> Ubuntu isint the only 'newb' distro. Ultimate Boot CD is pretty awesome
[10:55] <Intangir> when you have multiple drives, and boot from the 2nd, it installed grub on the first anyway
[10:55] <Somethingone> It comes with a slackware LOAF/CD. But Slackware is evil
[10:55] <Enverex> hmm, shouldn't update-manager -d give me the option to upgrade to Edgy? (devel)
[10:55] <Intangir> fortunately i had grub installed on the first from gentoo, but it was using the gentoo partitions grub.conf instead of ubuntus..
[10:55] <Intangir> was a pain..
[10:55] <Intangir> happened to a friend too with the same weird setup
[10:55] <Cntryboy> mwe: doing what you said came up with several listings.. but if I apt-cache search gtkhtml-2 starting with the file I need it doesn't list it
[10:55] <iradio> Warbo: I'm looking in rc2.d and I am not finding a file which obviously loads evms....
[10:55] <ciplogic> Enverex: last update doesn't start your x server
[10:55] <Somethingone> GRUB was awesome right up the point I lost my MBR
[10:55] <ciplogic> I'm on it :)
[10:55] <sebsebseb> Hi my package manager in Ubuntu has screwed up and that.  I carn't just install any packages that way.  it won't download anything at all
[10:55] <Warbo> Somethingone: Slackware has a pretty basic package management system, but everyone builds from source anyway. And Slasckware isn't even designed for that like Gentoo is
[10:56] <Enverex> ciplogic, Erm? I'm already in X
[10:56] <ciplogic> Enverex: are you on edgy?
[10:56] <sebsebseb> in Dapper by the way
[10:56] <Somethingone> Slackware is too complicated for everyday use. I don't want to have to think just at the login screen
[10:56] <mwe> Cntryboy, apt-cache search -n libgtkhtml maybe. but I'm just guessing. how did you install the broken program?
[10:56] <ciplogic> Enverex: I really don't know why it said after the last update that X server cannot find the font: "fixed"
[10:56] <sebsebseb> Slackware is not complacated for people that know what there doing with it
[10:56] <Enverex> ciplogic, No, hence why I assumed that would update it TO Edgy (although I think I may be misunderstanding that)
[10:56] <Intangir> sebsebseb: are you root?
[10:57] <Enverex> ciplogic, Erm, I think you're confusing me with someone else
[10:57] <Intangir> sebsebseb: which package manager, there are like .. 4
[10:57] <Cntryboy> mwe: it was gyach binary
[10:57] <iradio> Warbo: what IS the enterprise volume management system anyway and was it installed by default?
[10:57] <Somethingone> Yeah, but Assembly is simple if you know how to use it!
[10:57] <Warbo> iradio: I can't seem to find one in there either :)
[10:57] <ciplogic> Enverex: why?
[10:57] <mwe> Cntryboy, what's that?
[10:57] <ciplogic> Enverex: why I confuse you?
[10:57] <iradio> Warbo: I found it in rsS.d.
[10:57] <Enverex> ciplogic, erm, I never mentioned any fonts or anything
[10:57] <Cntryboy> for yahoo voice
[10:57] <iradio> Warbo: sorry that's rcS.d
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Symaptic and yes with root of course
[10:57] <Warbo> iradio: It is installed by default. I think it is a nicer way of LVM and fsck and stuff at boot
[10:58] <Somethingone> Hey, is it possible for me to use ZFS on ubuntu? http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/
[10:58] <Toge> im looking for a program like gimp, without layers (only one layer, simple)
[10:58] <Toge> do you know one?
[10:58] <Intangir> sebsebseb: how did that happen? did you mess with any of it?
[10:58] <ciplogic> Enverex: the easiest update: change in /etc/apt/sources.list the word: dapper with edgy. Then you should do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:58] <Warbo> Toge: Oooo, that sounds awful
[10:58] <Intangir> sebsebseb: what happens when you try to download?
[10:58] <iradio> how do I spoof a MAC address?
[10:59] <mwe> Cntryboy, I see. you could install apt-file and sudo apt-file update; sudo apt-file search libgtkhtml-2.so.0
[10:59] <Intangir> iradio: umm. why?
[10:59] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  I think I also got multiple sources.lst files.  and in the past I deleted a respority or two by mistake I think
[10:59] <Enverex> ciplogic, thanks
[10:59] <Toge> Warbo, i want paint, but better
[10:59] <uniq> iradio: use 'macchanger'
[10:59] <ciplogic> Enverex: anyway take care, and make a backup system to do that
[10:59] <mwe> Cntryboy, that should find the package if it exists
[10:59] <sebsebseb> intangir:  when I try to download I get the you are downloading window thing.  ,but it's empty.
[10:59] <Intangir> sebsebseb: woops..
[10:59] <Toge> brush, pencil... without layers..
[10:59] <Warbo> Toge: Krita is supposed to be good, but I haven't tried it
[10:59] <ciplogic> Enverex: the updates need to be polished a bit :)
[10:59] <Toge> ok, Im trying it
[10:59] <Somethingone> Sweet! I got VLC running, and it's connected to my fileserver. Tonight is star trek night!
[10:59] <aeQu`> does anyone has experience with installing dapper on a acer laptop 1692? Or does dapper supports notebooks better(in general?)
[10:59] <Intangir> sebsebseb: maybe you should have someone send you a good source.list
[10:59] <Enverex> ciplogic, Meh, I used Gentoo on this machine for 4 years, I'm used to things breaking all the time
[10:59] <three> i used krita and its pretty cool
[10:59] <Intangir> and then update/refresh after
[11:00] <Intangir> sources.list rather..
[11:00] <Warbo> three: Does it use layers?
[11:00] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  I got frustrated and deleted all of my resporities in Smaptic,  but I was trying to install Azureus, and that puts the multiverse one there for me anyway when it's not enabled
[11:00] <MenZa> What's the command to check your kernel version?
[11:00] <mwe> MenZa, uname -a
[11:00] <Warbo> uname -r
[11:00] <ciplogic> Enverex: whelcome to Ubuntu :)
[11:00] <three> warbo: i believe it does, i used it to erase to transparency, after i screwed up gimp
[11:00] <mwe> MenZa, uname -a will print the whole name and version. uname -r only the version
[11:01] <ciplogic> Enverex: if you want to compile some packages (as you do in Gentoo) you may do: apt-get source packagename
[11:01] <Warbo> three: Then it has gone up in my opinions, but probably not in Toge's :)
[11:01] <mikearthur> Anyone here know about installing on a Apple G3?
[11:01] <ciplogic> Enverex: and in the current folder it will appear the source which you may compile any time
[11:01] <ciplogic> mikearthur: what is the problem on Apple G3?
[11:01] <mikearthur> apparently you need to do something special with partitioning
[11:02] <Tommy2k4`> i wanna shrink /home and make / bigger but /home is at the end of the drive on a logical partition with swap between it and / so is that impossible
[11:02] <Wodger> yes
[11:02] <Intangir> sebsebseb: use this: http://intangir.soulfire.cc/sources.list
[11:02] <ciplogic> mikearthur: I have an iMac with a 300 MHz CPU (with G3) and Ubuntu installs successfully
[11:02] <Wodger> first 8gb but thats more macosx
[11:02] <Intangir> sebsebseb: put that in /etc/apt/
[11:02] <pantaloon> hey this might seem really stupid, but i'm trying to get netscape 4.8 to work, and the netscape executable won't run
[11:02] <pantaloon> using dapper here
[11:02] <mwe> Tommy2k4`, that's the main reason I use only one partition besides the swap :)
[11:03] <Intangir> pantaloon: why netscape?
[11:03] <Intangir> eew..
[11:03] <Warbo> mikearthur: Does it have "old world" firmware? I know there is a special Wiki page for that, since it is tricky
[11:03] <Enverex> ciplogic, I know, heh, but if I compile from source I prefer to download from the programs site and do it manually
[11:03] <Intangir> haha ;)
[11:03] <Wodger> if its not blue and white the g3 will be old school
[11:03] <lab-linux-brasil> Hi there... Is there anyone may help me.. The gnome freezes at loading time..
[11:03] <mikearthur> Warbo: its grabe and white
[11:03] <mikearthur> grape
[11:03] <pantaloon> need it to run business software...i can't load ie in wine can i?
[11:03] <mikearthur> seems to boot fine from CD though
[11:03] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  ok thanks
[11:03] <Intangir> sebsebseb: did it work?
[11:03] <sebsebseb> just about to do it.
[11:03] <Wodger> mike then you don't need to fiddle with pationing
[11:03] <sebsebseb> and uhmmmm
[11:04] <Intangir> btw i put the wine repo in there too so you can get the newest version of wine easy ;)
[11:04] <mwe> pantaloon, you can. ies4linux makes it easy to install ie in wine
[11:04] <Wodger> as its new school
[11:04] <sebsebseb> will it let me just put it in there.  or will it give me bul shit about file permissions
[11:04] <mikearthur> Wodger: apparently there is some wierd hardware glitch with old G3ws
[11:04] <mikearthur> G3s
[11:04] <Intangir> sebsebseb: did you completely delete your old one?
[11:04] <Wodger> what speed
[11:04] <Intangir> sebsebseb: if its still there youll have to be root to edit it
[11:04] <mwe> pantaloon, I need IE for my web bank
[11:04] <mikearthur> 300Mhz
[11:04] <sebsebseb> i'll sort that lot out now
[11:04] <Intangir> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:04] <Wodger> ahh yes
[11:05] <sundin> please i've been sitting all day. i cant write everything i tried. but gooood. i need help with thoose dependencies.
[11:05] <SilentJ_> Where can I get a copy of Xover Office? That works well with Ubuntu?
[11:05] <mikearthur> buy it SilentJ
[11:05] <ciplogic> mikearthur: probably is a system issue!? You have safety settings at boot time
[11:05] <sundin> i installed every lib in the updater and everything but it wont install.
[11:05] <arnducky> I haven't upgraded Dapper since before it went 'stable' -- apt-get dist-upgrade won't break anything will it?
[11:05] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  i'll just edit the file and do it that way with the command that's easier I guess
[11:05] <Warbo> codeweavers make Xover office
[11:05] <SilentJ_> haha
[11:05] <mikearthur> ciplogic: how do you mean system issue?
[11:05] <ciplogic> miekarthur:Press F1-F6 to see them
[11:05] <thundr> How do I use wpa_supplicant?
[11:05] <mwe> arnducky, no
[11:05] <sundin> and it still says that pyhon 2.3 isnt satisfieing
[11:05] <Intangir> sebsebseb: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:05] <mikearthur> ciplogic: what?
[11:05] <SilentJ_> Why would I wanna spend money on it?!
[11:05] <SilentJ_> haha
[11:05] <mwe> arnducky, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should bring you up to date
[11:05] <ciplogic> mikearthur: probably your power management, etc. is not supported by dapper
[11:05] <Intangir> sebsebseb: then dump in that text from the link i sent you
[11:05] <sundin> sudo...
[11:06] <sundin> brb try one thing
[11:06] <Warbo> SilentJ_: This is not the place to ask for warez
[11:06] <Wodger> mike yes that model didn't like macosx
[11:06] <pantaloon> mwe, thanks :) do i download off their website or can i apt-get?
[11:06] <Wodger> or the 1st edtion
[11:06] <arnducky> mwe I have a root account,  and I used the ';' to chain those commands but thanks anyhow
[11:06] <SilentJ_> i didnt ask for anything just asked if ther ewas a place I can get it
[11:06] <Wodger> but if the live cd worked
[11:06] <arnducky> ;-)
[11:06] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  just having a look at your file there.  you got Dapper beta?
[11:06] <sundin> whats the url to Ubuntu package site?
[11:06] <Intangir> SilentJ_: just use wine
[11:06] <ciplogic> mikearthur: I have problems with Dapper with a VIA mainboard, but that behaviour doesn't match on all computers I've seen Ubuntu
[11:06] <Cntryboy> okay back
[11:06] <mikearthur> SilentJ_: their website
[11:06] <mwe> pantaloon, you need to dl the script from the site
[11:06] <Wodger> then ubuntu should be fine
[11:06] <Intangir> sebsebseb: ya, it it still saying beta in there? i thought i fixed all that
[11:07] <SilentJ_> Hey, is DApper much better than 5.10?
[11:07] <Warbo> sundin: archive.ubuntu.com is where they are stored. You can search them at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  yep it's still saying beta.
[11:07] <Intangir> oh its not using that
[11:07] <Cntryboy> mwe: if I apt-cache search libgtkhtml-2.so.0 and it comes back with natta, that means I dont have it right?
[11:07] <mwe> pantaloon, it will use the wine you already have though
[11:07] <Intangir> thats commented out
[11:07] <mikearthur> Wodger: its 1st edition, the Live CD doesn't work, I'm using breezy and then dist-upgrading to dapper
[11:07] <sebsebseb> oh ok
[11:07] <ciplogic> SilentJ: is more polished and has updated packages, recommended to do the step
[11:07] <sundin> thanks warbo. finnally a decent human being :)
[11:07] <mwe> Cntryboy, no
[11:07] <Intangir> sebsebseb:  you dont need the stuff with # in front of it
[11:07] <Enverex> ROFL. "Need to get 814MB of archives. After unpacking 191MB of additional disk space will be used" What the hell is that? Anti-compression?
[11:07] <SilentJ_> How long does it take?
[11:07] <Intangir> sebsebseb: but its easier to just copy/paste ;)
[11:07] <comtech> hi, I'm running dapper on a p4 1.8/512 system and xorg is using like 15-25% of the cpu whenever I'm doing anything (bittorrent, firefox, synaptic, etc).. I've checked the HD out with smartmontools and it looks to be fine, any advice on speeding this up? my system is hitting 5.00 load running like 5 bittorrents
[11:07] <sebsebseb> yep
[11:07] <SilentJ_> To upgrade from 5.10?
[11:07] <Cntryboy> mwe: no what
[11:07] <mwe> Cntryboy, it means there is no package by that name. use apt-file search instead
[11:07] <Warbo> sundin: <beep beep> I am a robot <end communication>
[11:07] <Intangir> sebsebseb: probably about 2 hours
[11:07] <_magnus_> anyone here successfully install OpenFOAM on ubuntu 64 bit?
[11:08] <mikearthur> Enverex: some stuff will be getting overwritten, remember :)
[11:08] <sebsebseb> what's probabnly about two hours?
[11:08] <Wodger> well mike the partioning is  regarding old world macs
[11:08] <Intangir> sebsebseb: oops mistell
[11:08] <sundin> warbo to bad. i would get my gf to give you a hand sometime
[11:08] <mjr> Enverex, upgrades replace old files also, recall
[11:08] <Intangir> SilentJ_: probably about 2 hours
[11:08] <mwe> Cntryboy, install apt-file. the sudo apt-file update and apt-file search the file
[11:08] <Cntryboy> apt-file said no comand found
[11:08] <mwe> Cntryboy, read
[11:08] <Subliminal> what is the utility to create a .deb from makefiles and source?
[11:08] <Wodger> the 1st edition blue and white seem to not work well in osx
[11:08] <mwe> Cntryboy, I said install apt-file
[11:08] <Warbo> !checkinstall
[11:08] <Cntryboy> mwe: you lost me on install apt-file
[11:08] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[11:08] <thundr> Enverex: It replaces the old fies, so it's just saying that it's 190-some MB larger than Breezy
[11:08] <Subliminal> cheers
[11:09] <ciplogic> SilentJ_: depends of Internet Connection, RAM and CPU mostly  :)
[11:09] <sundin> Anyone knows a easy way to install all dependencies to a file? i tried all day
[11:09] <mwe> Cntryboy, sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[11:09] <ciplogic> At least an hour
[11:09] <bytefoo> _magnus_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156298
[11:09] <jrib> sundin: what are you trying to install?
[11:09] <Enverex> Eep, why would upgrading to edgy remove some programs? (that I installed, i.e. not deps or something)
[11:09] <_magnus_> bytefoo im the bottom post in that thread :P
[11:09] <bytefoo> o :D
[11:09] <sundin> jrib dcgui. i installed and installed dependencies all day.
[11:09] <Warbo> sundin: If you install a .deb then you can apt-get -f install to fix broken packages (obviously, if you made the package yourself you would have to set the dependencies right)
[11:09] <_magnus_> yeah, i just posted on the OpenFOAM boards too, we'll see how that goes
[11:09] <Enverex> (i.e. Mondo, dvdrip, Gnomemud, etc)
[11:09] <_magnus_> not sure how active they are
[11:09] <heatxsink> sorry to ask again, but does anyone in here know which runlevel I can set my ubuntu installation such that it doesn't boot into gdm but terminal mode?
[11:09] <sundin> but it wont start installing cause its always a new freakin depend
[11:10] <jrib> !info dcgui
[11:10] <stefg> Enverex: because you ignored the warning that edgy is a dev-version which will break your system
[11:10] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.80-4 (dapper), package size 433 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[11:10] <Cntryboy> too much scroll for my slowww dialup today
[11:10] <sundin> -f...
[11:10] <mwe> Enverex, edgy is pre-alfa isn't it? that means probably broken
[11:10] <dli_> heatxsink, ou can do it manually
[11:10] <wildman> Cntryboy, this is a very active channel :)
[11:10] <jrib> sundin: you are using ubuntu repositories for it?
[11:10] <sundin> jrib brb
[11:10] <Cntryboy> mwe: I did that and its asking me to download apt-file libapt-pkg-perl libconfigfile-perl
[11:10] <Enverex> stefg, It's only two programs, but it's more a wonder why it wants to remove them, heh
[11:10] <Warbo> sundin: -f = fix
[11:10] <dli_> heatxsink, forexample, removing the sym link of gdm in /etc/rc3.d/
[11:10] <mwe> Cntryboy, go ahead and accept
[11:10] <mikearthur> Enverex: trust me, you don't want to move to edgy unless you are a dev
[11:10] <sundin> warbo it says it cant find the package.
[11:10] <thundr> Not yet, anyway
[11:10] <Cntryboy> mwe: what am I getting though
[11:10] <sundin> and i know its there.
[11:11] <Cntryboy> I mean is it for the file I need?
[11:11] <bytefoo> _magnus_, if you have those libraries on your box (i dunno if you do), you could just symlink to wherever it is looking for
[11:11] <mwe> Cntryboy, those are packages that apt-file depends on
[11:11] <Enverex> mikearthur, yeah, just changed my sources list back :P
[11:11] <bytefoo> i have a feeling it is something to do with the fact ur running 64 bit :X
[11:11] <Coffeegrinds> hey does anyone know of a Joystick=mouse type app?
[11:11] <bytefoo> i don't know about openfoam tho :/
[11:12] <Coffeegrinds> like joymouse for w32
[11:12] <Cntryboy> mwe: oh and apt-file searches for files right
[11:12] <Warbo> Coffeegrinds: Use a mouse as a joystick?
[11:12] <mikearthur> Coffeegrinds: you don't need one, you can use the joystick as an input just using xorg.conf
[11:12] <seanh> If anyone else comes with problems with ACX111 wireless card, they should consult this wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111 and this bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/30766
[11:12] <farous> anyone know if there is an equivalent to unison that do a better job and i already know and use rsync
[11:12] <mwe> Cntryboy, right. it shows what package contains a given file
[11:12] <Coffeegrinds> ooh
[11:12] <seanh> although strangely I only had to do one line of that wiki solution, editing modprobe.d, and it worked, I ignored the rest
[11:12] <goonies> whats the latest version of xchat available for ubuntu
[11:12] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  Oh I see your from us so you get us.ubuntu blah blah.  and I am from gb so I get gb.ubuntu blah blah.  i'll replace those us with gb and try and download Azureus again
[11:12] <ciplogic> Enverex: do you know how to setup the X server to work?
[11:12] <Warbo> Coffeegrinds: Oh, that way around :) I was going to say, mice make AWFUL joysticks
[11:12] <sundin> hmm i finally made progress :) ill take advantage of it. thanks warbo and jrib
[11:12] <seanh> Is gthere some way to tell ubotu about this? Would have saved me time
[11:12] <mikearthur> Coffeegrinds: apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-joystick
[11:13] <Warbo> !info xchat
[11:13] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:13] <wildman> goonies, 2.6.1 here (dapper x86_64)
[11:13] <Cntryboy> mwe: okay well it was almost done and it's asking me to do this.. Put CDROM labeled [Ubuntu_6.06__Dapper_Drake__-_Release_i386_(20060531)]  in the cdrom device
[11:13] <Deeghetal> this is embarrasing to ask but how do i navigate to the tmp directory from the default directory in terminal? :D
[11:13] <Intangir> sebsebseb: good luck :)
[11:13] <goonies> ok
[11:13] <mwe> Cntryboy, huh?
[11:13] <goonies> same thing i got =)
[11:13] <_magnus_> bytefoo, yes, that is what i did previously, i edited the file to show it where everything was located, which worked, but something else went sour, something to do with nsd and i could not figure it out, i blamed it on it not recognizing my architecture properly and not finding the right files and started reinstalling it from scratch again
[11:13] <ardchoille> Deeghetal: cd /tmp
[11:13] <mwe> Cntryboy, your sources.list is broken
[11:13] <Enverex> ciplogic, Yeah, why?
[11:13] <Cntryboy> mwe: dunno thats what it's asking
[11:13] <Intangir> !info irssi
[11:13] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 989 kB, installed size 2764 kB
[11:13] <Warbo> !cli > Deeghetal
[11:13] <Deeghetal> thanks
[11:13] <Intangir> irssi rules btw
[11:13] <Intangir> im using it now
[11:13] <mwe> Cntryboy, is this the same box your in this chat room with?
[11:13] <Deeghetal> !cli ?
[11:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about cli ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:13] <Cntryboy> yes
[11:13] <goonies> wildman, latest version available at xchat.org is 2.6.6
[11:14] <Warbo> Should give a link to useful commands
[11:14] <Warbo> (like cd)
[11:14] <Coffeegrinds> mikearthur: thanks
[11:14] <Cntryboy> I hate problems.. all I need is that one file lol
[11:14] <mikearthur> Coffeegrinds: np
[11:14] <mwe> Cntryboy, please go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me when you have
[11:14] <Cntryboy> but I don't know how to get it
[11:14] <ardchoille> Warbo: Excellent idea, that
[11:14] <wildman> goonies, but someone has to package it for the version of the OS you are using to have it available... unless you want to compile yourself
[11:14] <mwe> Cntryboy, you need to fix your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <goonies> why is ubuntu out of date =\
[11:14] <goonies> dont the ubuntu team take care of that wildman?
[11:14] <Intangir> mwe: what happened to his sources.list?
[11:14] <Intangir> whats with everyones sources getting messed up?
[11:15] <mwe> goonies, out of date?
[11:15] <sundin> can i use sudo apt-get install (name of package) just llike that?
[11:15] <stefg> !easysource > Cntryboy
[11:15] <Warbo> goonies: Because using the very latest version of something means you are giving up testing and security. Like Gentoo :)
[11:15] <wildman> goonies, in practice is impossible (and even non desirable) to be always running after latest versions of software...
[11:15] <_Spire_> sundin: yup
[11:15] <mwe> goonies, well program versions freeze at the release date
[11:15] <sundin> damn i would need a real tutorial :)
[11:15] <_Spire_> Warbo: :P
[11:15] <wildman> goonies, think on testing alone... software is a very dynamic thing.
[11:15] <sundin> cause everytime i write it like that it says it cant be find
[11:15] <wheelchair> Lo there. Following the instructions here http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb for dapper (6.06) I downloaded and I think Synaptic installed wine. But where is it? I can't find the program
[11:15] <goonies> i c
[11:15] <mwe> Intangir, probably just the cd line that isn't commented out
[11:15] <jrib> sundin: you need universe for dcgui
[11:15] <_Spire_> sundin: hat package are you trying to install?
[11:15] <_Spire_> *what
[11:15] <ProN00b> wildman, but it certainly is desirable to always run the latest release versions of software that has a thrusted management
[11:16] <wildman> goonies, they do AFAIK, however, for latest versions (a.k.a. Ubuntu 6.10 now)
[11:16] <Intangir> wheelchair: you run it from command line
[11:16] <Cntryboy> mwe: I think I know why I got that error, source.list i've added deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted
[11:16] <Intangir> wheelchair: winecfg to config
[11:16] <sundin> spire its for dapper it says.
[11:16] <Warbo> sundin: "apt-cache search package" will give you possible package names (aor use !synaptic or aptitude)
[11:16] <Cntryboy> wme: want me to take that line out?
[11:16] <_Spire_> wheelchair: go to the command line - type winecfg
[11:16] <mwe> Cntryboy, yes
[11:16] <Intangir> wheelchair: and wine whatever .exe to run
[11:16] <wildman> ProN00b, yes, like the kernel :)
[11:16] <jrib> sundin: have you enabled the universe repository?
[11:16] <mwe> Cntryboy, can you paste it like I asked you to? at paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can see?
[11:16] <sundin> hmm
[11:16] <ProN00b> wildman, no, i mean more like everything else
[11:16] <sundin> jrib please enlighten me if you would :)
[11:16] <Cntryboy> k
[11:16] <jrib> !universe > sundin
[11:16] <Cntryboy> i have 2.1KB dialup takes me awhile
[11:16] <Cntryboy> js
[11:17] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  time to try and install Azureus again and hopefullyt
[11:17] <wheelchair> Ahh good! Wine's come up. Thankyou again!
[11:17] <Cntryboy> im going to paste it at pastebin.ca
[11:17] <Intangir> sebsebseb: update first
[11:17] <mwe> Cntryboy, sure
[11:17] <sundin> !universe
[11:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:17] <wildman> ProN00b, goonies: let's face it: unless we go a Gentoo-like way, we're 'trapped' to what maintainers think it's the best for us... or we compile ourselves.
[11:17] <Intangir> sebsebseb: hit the refresh or update or whatever
[11:17] <Intangir> sebsebseb: or goto command line and type apt-get update
[11:17] <sundin> "jrib "event not found"
[11:17] <goonies> i actually was on gentoo b4 ubuntu
[11:17] <_magnus_> wildman - what about testing and unstable...
[11:17] <mcphail> wildman: gentoo users are trapped compiling with gcc3.4
[11:17] <wildman> ProN00b, goonies: my affirmation above applies to every distribution out there, not only Ubuntu :)
[11:17] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.ca/100119
[11:17] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  ok command line
[11:17] <Warbo> ProN00b: Try complaining in #ubuntu-motu :)
[11:17] <jrib> sundin: read the links ubotu said, don't actually type !universe in your terminal :)
[11:17] <Cntryboy> mwe:^^
[11:18] <Coffeegrinds> mikearthur: I'm back .. you wou;dn't have a clue as to how to configue this would ya?
[11:18] <wildman> _magnus_, not reliable enough for "production use" ?
[11:18] <Intangir> sebsebseb: on synaptic i think there is a refresh button or something
[11:18] <sundin> lol ok jrib :)
[11:18] <mikearthur> Coffeegrinds: man xorg.conf
[11:18] <mikearthur> google for it
[11:18] <mwe> Cntryboy, yeah. it lagging
[11:18] <Deeghetal> why when i go to tmp in terminal are none of my files or folders there?
[11:18] <wildman> _magnus_, I cannot cover all the bases in a small sentence, can't I?
[11:18] <Intangir> sebsebseb: its called reload
[11:18] <Hoxzer> is there any way to apply new x settings without restart?
[11:18] <Coffeegrinds> I'm diggin here
[11:18] <_magnus_> wildman: point taken.....
[11:18] <mwe> Cntryboy, it loaded now. hang on
[11:18] <Intangir> Hoxzer: no
[11:18] <Hoxzer> N
[11:18] <Hoxzer> :(
[11:18] <goonies> wonder why my firefox icon doesnt change when i change icon themes
[11:18] <Cntryboy> k
[11:18] <goonies> everything else changes but it
[11:19] <sundin> i read and read on the internet. but everything is to complicated. it feels like people that write the helpo actually dont trying to help you or they just wanna sound smart.
[11:19] <_Spire_> Hoxzer: logout. when you get the login screen, hit CTRL-alt-backspace
[11:19] <Intangir> goonies: that theme must not have a firefox icon
[11:19] <_Spire_> Hoxzer: it does work :)
[11:19] <Warbo> Ubuntu has to offer decent commercial support from companies all over the world. Constantly changing what Ubuntu consists of would seriously challenge that
[11:19] <wildman> goonies, cuz there's no such icon for the theme u change to
[11:19] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  I did the command and it did the stuff,  but it's saying I got duplicate sources list entry
[11:19] <Intangir> goonies: the one im using does, its called dlg-ettiqute or something
[11:19] <Cntryboy> Hoxzer: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:19] <wildman> goonies, a different one, I mean
[11:19] <goonies> hmmm
[11:19] <vontux> has anyone in here ever used bin2iso on their ubuntu box?
[11:19] <Cntryboy> restarts X but not pc
[11:19] <Intangir> sebsebseb: hrm.. make sure your not using some other sources from another file
[11:19] <sundin> warbo if i do apt-cache i get so many hits that i cant read them all.
[11:19] <goonies> well most icon themes do have a firefox icon i believe
[11:19] <Warbo> vontux: Have you heard of bchunk? (sounds similar)
[11:19] <Intangir> sebsebseb: delete any other .list files and make sure the sources.list.d directory is empty
[11:19] <goonies> tux n tosh =\
[11:19] <Deeghetal> I'm trying to install a program manually and to do so i need to navigate to the /tmp dir and run ./configure... however when i type cd /tmp and then pwd, nothing is in the directory.
[11:19] <goonies> crystal
[11:20] <goonies> noia
[11:20] <jaeku> shit, edgy's last kernel update fucked up my /boot/grub/menu.lst file and hardcoded some developer's harddrive UUID
[11:20] <Warbo> sundin: Yeah, I think that also includes dependencies and stuff (so searching for foo will give everything that depends on foo as well)
[11:20] <Intangir> goonies: is it the icon for firefox, or the firefox-bin, on 64?
[11:20] <Hoxzer> Cntryboy, _Spire_ : actually I meant X restart ;)
[11:20] <wildman> jaeku, watch your language...
[11:20] <goonies> the firefox that comes with the install
[11:20] <wildman> jaeku, even if you irritated :)
[11:20] <Cntryboy> Hoxzer: oh sorry, and not that i'm aware of
[11:20] <goonies> non 64 though
[11:20] <Intangir> goonies: well it must just be the theme
[11:21] <Warbo> Deeghetal: Are you sure it goes into /tmp? Maybe it makes it's own folder called tmp in the current direectory
[11:21] <jaeku> right now my machine is booted into (initramfs)... is there some text editor i can use to fix my /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[11:21] <comtech_> Hi, I've got dapper installed on a p4 1.8/512 machine with a hard drive that passes tests in smartmontools. My load is ridiculous though, I am hitting 5.00 load by web browsing and having 5 bittorrents open.  Xorg has used like 120 minutes of cpu time in the day it's been powered on, and it is constantly using between 15 and 25% depending what I do. please advise me
[11:21] <sundin> damn but at packages.ubuntu.org they say its called valknut and dcgui :/
[11:21] <seanh> !acx111
[11:21] <goonies> can u give me an example of a them that changes the firefox icon?
[11:21] <Intangir> goonies: you should be able to brose the icons from the theme somewhere, maybe ~/.icons or something?
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about acx111 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <Deeghetal> that's probably what it's doing but i don't know how to get into the real tmp
[11:21] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  it's ok now it did say to correct the problem to run apt-get update again so I did
[11:21] <jaeku> wildman, sorry if you cant handle the word SHIT
[11:21] <wildman> jaeku, grub's 'e' command isn't available to you?
[11:21] <Intangir> sebsebseb: so did it work?
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Deeghetal:  what are you trying to install
[11:21] <Deeghetal> Wine
[11:21] <mwe> Cntryboy, http://pastebin.ca/100129 <-- use that instead
[11:21] <wildman> jaeku, I can, and even more than that, but do you know if all the rest can? :)
[11:21] <sebsebseb> Intangir:  seems so.  so now i'll try and install Azureus again
[11:21] <stefg> Good reads for everyone! http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:21] <mikearthur> jaeku: language
[11:21] <mwe> Cntryboy, but back up the old one
[11:21] <ciplogic> when is sceduled Edgy? October or December?
[11:21] <sundin> im not gonna bother you guys :) ill try to find it out my self
[11:22] <Warbo> October
[11:22] <mwe> Cntryboy, then sudo apt-get update
[11:22] <mikearthur> jaeku: this is meant to be a family-friendly channel
[11:22] <jrib> ciplogic: october
[11:22] <Deeghetal> i tried to use the APT packages but i am getting 404 errors whenever I try to refresh.
[11:22] <jaeku> mikearthur, wildman sorry, i'm just pissed right now
[11:22] <Warbo> 6.10
[11:22] <wildman> jaeku, take 10 deep breaths ;-)
[11:22] <ciplogic> jrib: great... thank you for ingo
[11:22] <seanh> !acx111 is See this wiki page for using Texas Instruments ACX111 wireless devices in Ubuntu  Dapper 6.06: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111
[11:22] <Deeghetal> So I downloaded the source and unpacked it into /tmp
[11:22] <jaeku> wildman, i'll take a look... but i dont think grub is available
[11:22] <wildman> jaeku, good luck
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Deeghetal:  what are you trying to install
[11:23] <Deeghetal> Wine
[11:23] <ardchoille> goonies: Most icon themes have a line that says Inherit="gnome" or some such. That means that if the author of the icon theme didn't include an icon for firefox, then the system will use the firefox icon of the "inherited" theme. You can cd /usr/share/icons  or  /usr/share/pixmaps  and look at the different themes.
[11:23] <Cntryboy> mwe: I've tried those b4, my source.list has worked fine for me I'm going to take out the cdrom line brb
[11:23] <jaeku> wildman, no, grub is not available
[11:23] <goonies> i seem to find the problem
[11:23] <wildman> jaeku, sigh...
[11:23] <goonies> for some reason its applying the icon for mozilla-firefox
[11:23] <mwe> multiverse doesn't get security updates from security.ubuntu.com, does it?
[11:23] <wildman> jaeku, can't u boot a livecd, mount the needed partition and use the livecd's editor?
[11:23] <goonies> and not the one assigned to just firefox
[11:23] <Deeghetal> Jack_Sparrow: Wine
[11:24] <mwe> Cntryboy, arhive.ubuntu.com will redirect you to a fast mirror
[11:24] <jaeku> wildman, i'll try to find a livecd, thanks for the idea
[11:24] <wildman> jaeku, cannot think about other way to edit a config file if the system cannot boot
[11:24] <sebsebseb> goonies:  what's that you want the Firefox Icon like the one you would have on Windows.  not the one that Ubuntu gives FIrefox?  a blue one
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Deeghetal: Sorry, I dont support Wine, I personally think it is silly to drag programs from a different operating system into Linux and try to get them running under an emulator
[11:24] <mwe> Cntryboy, instead of always using us.u.c
[11:24] <Warbo> busybox in initrd is completely useless, since you have no access to your proper filesystem
[11:24] <wildman> jaeku, good luck (bis)
[11:24] <jaeku> i cant believe that nobody else running edgy is having this problem
[11:24] <goonies> yeah the blue one is reminds me of red hat
[11:24] <goonies> lol
[11:24] <ardchoille> goonies: You can go into the index.theme file for that icon theme and change things around, but make a backup first.
[11:24] <Intangir> goonies: hrm?
[11:24] <Deeghetal> Jack_Sparrow: This problem is deeper than Wine though... I can't get repositories from any URL aside from the standard Ubuntu ones to work.
[11:24] <Intangir> goonies: isnt it supposed to apply that one? firefox IS mozilla-firefox
[11:25] <mwe> Cntryboy, and you haven't got multiverse. I advice you to use what I pasted for you
[11:25] <Cntryboy> mwe: if you want me to add some lines I will, but I don't wanna change source.list, ive done that in the past and had hella probs
[11:25] <goonies> all the themes have a firefox icon but its named firefox.png, my system seems to be using the one named mozilla-firefox.png
[11:25] <stefg> jaeku: #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <jaeku> please /msg me if anyone knows anything about grub using the wrong UUID
[11:25] <Warbo> goonies: It is to do with Firefox's license I think. Debian have sorted it by getting rid of the icon, and also turning off it's own updater (because it conflicts with Ubuntu/Debian's updater)
[11:25] <goonies> any of u guys got humily for example?
[11:25] <goonies> humilty theme
[11:25] <jaeku> stefg, thanks, i wont bug you guys anymore... just the +1 guys
[11:25] <Intangir> goonies: just copy firefox.png to the mozilla-firefox.png then ;)
[11:25] <mwe> Cntryboy, the one I pasted will work. but back up what you have. that way you can just restore if you want to
[11:25] <Cntryboy> mwe: fast means nothing for me with 2.1KB lol nothing is fast for me.
[11:25] <Intangir> mine are all svgs
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Deeghetal: DId you look at your sources list?
[11:25] <Intangir> so they scale up it looks much sweeter ;)
[11:25] <Cntryboy> mwe: far as multiverse I thought I had that added
[11:25] <goonies> Intangir, true i can do that, just thought it should work automatically
[11:25] <Intangir> no pixelation
[11:26] <Stormx2> Hmm. thinking about installing a media dashboard to my xbox which can stream media from my computer. it can use SAMBA, but what is samba? I know its something to do with windows networking and stuff....
[11:26] <mwe> Cntryboy, oh 2.1KB?
[11:26] <mwe> Cntryboy, well you had universe, not multiverse
[11:26] <Intangir> goonies: you should get an icon theme with svgs
[11:26] <Deeghetal> Jack_Sparrow: Yes. They are all added correctly as far as I know but I'm a newb.
[11:26] <wildman> Intangir, I've read somewhere that the 'real' problem with SVG wasn't scale up, but down :)
[11:26] <stefg> !samba
[11:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:26] <goonies> yeah i got icon-crystal-svg
[11:26] <linmu> Anyone know how to get a wacom tablet to work on Dapper?
[11:26] <Intangir> wildman: well it looks good scaled up
[11:26] <wildman> Intangir, the website I read (don't have URL handy though) specialized in bitmap icons BTW :)
[11:26] <Gina98> hey
[11:26] <Warbo> linmu: I think they are already in the default config file for X
[11:27] <ciplogic> Storm2: when in a path in explorer you write in windows: \\jane_computer\first_share
[11:27] <Cntryboy> mwe: which line and ill add multiverse to it and then update
[11:27] <mwe> Cntryboy, are you on a slow dial up connection or something?
[11:27] <ciplogic> Storm2: in linux you write: smb://jane_computer/firstshare
[11:27] <wildman> Intangir, indeed, the pb is scaling down, not up. Scaling up is vector graphics strong point, but when it comes to scale down and represent that with pixels on a monitor... things might change a bit.
[11:27] <sundin> weee thanks warbo and jrib. i finally managed to install somethings i had problem with earlier
[11:27] <Warbo> linmu: My Aiptek tablet works when I plug it in, although it can't get the hang of absolute mode, and the buttons do the wrong thing :(
[11:27] <jrib> sundin: great
[11:27] <Cntryboy> mwe: yes
[11:27] <mwe> Cntryboy, just use the file I pasted after renaming what you have
[11:27] <Intangir> wildman: all my icons are big ;) 48x48
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Deeghetal: I just went to synaptic and downloaded wine and the dev....
[11:27] <Intangir> so no problem for me
[11:27] <Gina98> hi
[11:27] <wildman> Intangir, same here... blame big 17in. LCDs :)
[11:28] <sundin> jrib and im done" i did it :) i cant really tell how much i really appreciate the help :)
[11:28] <mwe> Cntryboy, sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_old && sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and paste what I suggested
[11:28] <zack_> how do you change what the brown ubuntu window after logging in looks like?
[11:28] <linmu> Warbo: can I edit this file? I downloaded wacom-tools, but still have no access to settings
[11:28] <wildman> zack_, the login window theme or the desktop theme?
[11:29] <mwe> Cntryboy, if you don't like it sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list_old /etc/apt/sources.list to restore
[11:29] <Warbo> linmu: So you're sure it doesn't work already? If it doesn't work then you can edit the file with "gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:29] <ardchoille> zack_: The gnome splash screen?
[11:29] <Warbo> "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" sorry
[11:29] <GTX> For some reason I cannot hear any audio on google video? any ideas?
[11:29] <Intangir> mwe: he might not know how to paste in nano
[11:29] <zack_> wildman ive cange the login in so its not the human theme but after that the windows thats brown and says ubuntu
[11:29] <zack_> ardchoille i think so
[11:29] <mwe> Intangir, good point
[11:29] <Warbo> GTX: Flash uses OSS and is pretty dodgy. Close all apps using sound and restart FF
[11:30] <wildman> zack_ isn't that part of the desktop theme?
[11:30] <ciplogic> zack_: there are themes and login window theme
[11:30] <GTX> Warbo, Is there anyway to make it use alsa?
[11:30] <goonies> gnome art is nice =] 
[11:30] <goonies> gnome-art
[11:30] <mwe> or kill esd first
[11:30] <Warbo> GTX: I think so, but I forget
[11:30] <ciplogic> zack_: user theme you may set in prefereces->theme
[11:30] <Intangir> GTX: that happened to me the other day
[11:30] <GTX> Warbo, Is it something where I start firefox with different parimiters? or something
[11:30] <ardchoille> zack_: Open config-editor and go to apps/gnome-session/options and set the desired splah screen in the splash_image key
[11:30] <ciplogic> zack_: more themes you may get from http://www.gnome-look.org
[11:30] <goonies>  any burning progs for linux that can do layerbreaks
[11:31] <Intangir> GTX: for me i just ended up having to reboot, for some reason udev missed my soundcard when i booted.. very odd
[11:31] <minerale> I keep reading on digg on ways to break the windows password, I have installed ubuntu and my other partition is windows, i've downloaded the SAM file, what linux utility allows for reading of the windows SAM file and extraction of the hash ?
[11:31] <mwe> sound in flash is lagging here
[11:31] <GTX> I see Intangir
[11:31] <Intangir> GTX: does it usually work for you?
[11:31] <GTX> Yeah when I dont open anything using sound, ie close skype/xmms etc..
[11:31] <Intangir> GTX: or have you never had it work, cause i found some good links explaining how to get itworking
[11:31] <fishy> sudo doesn't work
[11:31] <fishy> oops
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Deeghetal: /etc/apt/sources.list    Get that and put it up on pastebin
[11:31] <Warbo> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnome-splashscreen-manager - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:31] <Deeghetal> I figured it out. Canonical and Wine don't have repositories for 64 bit AMD's.
[11:32] <Intangir> GTX: one of them said something about using alsa-oss to wrap it?
[11:32] <mwe> I wonder if adobe will provide the new flash player for linux anytime soon
[11:32] <Deeghetal> That sucks.
[11:32] <Warbo> !info gnome-splashscreen-manager
[11:32] <ubotu> gnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 148 kB
[11:32] <GTX> Intangir, I got it working before by putting some paraimiters with firefox to boot flash with alsa but forgot
[11:32] <goonies> Warbo, nice tool
[11:32] <goonies> !info xchat
[11:32] <fishy> Sudo doesn't work. I found a thread on the Ubuntu forums ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107940 ) but I'm not sure how to do what is proposed. "Type "vigr", add your username to the admin group, save and type "exit", the system will continue its normal booting process changing from single-user to multiuser and when you log into your account, you'll have administration privileges with sudo." I don't know how to do that - how to
[11:32] <fishy> save, or where to add my username, or how to add it.
[11:32] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:32] <Intangir> GTX: that sounds useful.. i got it working for now, but the thing is is the sound gets out of sync, and stays worse and worse ;)
[11:32] <ardchoille> !cli > Warbo
[11:32] <GTX> indeed Intangir
[11:32] <Warbo> goonies: (I had to wait for aptitude to load my cache before I could search :))
[11:33] <ardchoille> Warbo: Is that what you meant?
[11:33] <GTX> I'm going to try and find out Intangir  and then i'll get back to you if I find fix
[11:33] <unstablesob_> I using an iBook G4, what is the command to kill X?
[11:33] <Cntryboy> mwe: all that was really diff. was couple universe multiverse added so I did that let me update
[11:33] <zack_> ardchoille, where would i place my picture file?
[11:33] <baconbacon> somebody wants help on getting flash with proper sound in ubuntu?
[11:33] <Warbo> Hm?
[11:33] <mwe> Intangir, sudo killall esd then run firefox worked for me
[11:33] <unstablesob_> *I am
[11:33] <ardchoille> zack_: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[11:33] <mwe> Cntryboy, ok. if you don't mind using the us. mirrors
[11:33] <linmu> Warbo: well I have the conf. file up and there is no mention of wacom, or tablet in this file??
[11:33] <Warbo> linmu: Oh, there was in mine. Are you in Dapper or Breezy?
[11:34] <mwe> Cntryboy, anyway make sure the cd line has a # at the beginning. then sudo apt-get update
[11:34] <fishy> Does anyone know how to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107940
[11:34] <linmu> Warbo: Dapper
[11:34] <Intangir> GTX: cool thx
[11:34] <mwe> Cntryboy, slow internet is somewhat of a showstopper in ubuntu
[11:34] <Warbo> linmu: Me too. That's weird. I will try and pastebin the bit of my xorg.conf for you
[11:34] <dli_> fishy, edit /etc/sudoers
[11:34] <fishy> dli_: How do I edit it and where?
[11:35] <Bakemono> hi
[11:35] <fishy> dli_: I can't edit it because I can't go sudo, and I can't do it in the terminal because I don't know how to work vim or nano...
[11:35] <dli_> fishy, login via the first user (set in installation), then, sudo to edit it
[11:35] <goonies> i got to say, ubuntu is very very nice, just got to get the bloated kernel on a diet =P
[11:35] <goonies> and smp enabled
[11:36] <Intangir> fishy: did you create a new users besides the one that was created during install?
[11:36] <mwe> fishy, sudo visudo let's you edit the file and checks for errors before letting you save it
[11:36] <Intangir> fishy: can you not get root at all?
[11:36] <Cntryboy> mwe: yes I know, I have to work around alot of stuff because this slow dialup
[11:36] <fishy> Intangir: No, I didn't. This is still the same user.
[11:36] <mwe> dli_, editing the sudoers file without visudo is a bad idea
[11:36] <javiolo> hi
[11:36] <ciplogic> finally in X!!! :)
[11:36] <Cntryboy> mwe: be nice if you could do all updates with one package, that way I could go to someones house and dl all the sec. updates ect
[11:36] <ciplogic> Edgy rocks...
[11:36] <fishy> Intangir: I can't get to root except by going into recovery mode
[11:37] <dli_> mwe, you shut up
[11:37] <fishy> mwe: I would do "sudo visudo" except for the fact that sudo doesn't work.
[11:37] <mwe> dli_, huh?
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> fishy: Why cant you do sudo? WHat error and where are you typing it
[11:37] <comtech_> Hi, I've got dapper installed on a p4 1.8/512 machine with a hard drive that passes tests in smartmontools. My load is ridiculous though, I am hitting 5.00 load by web browsing and having 5 bittorrents open.  Xorg has used like 120 minutes of cpu time in the day it's been powered on, and it is constantly using between 15 and 25% depending what I do. please advise me
[11:37] <Cntryboy> dli_: wow shutup such a strong word lol
[11:37] <dli_> fishy, sudo is only available to the first user by default
[11:37] <Intangir> fishy: try that, then goto /etc/group, and add your username after the "adm:x:4:" line
[11:37] <mwe> Cntryboy, yeah
[11:37] <fishy> Jack_Sparrow: In the terminal, and the error: steven is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[11:38] <goonies> are u suppose to have anything under applications -> system tools ?
[11:38] <Intangir> fishy: also add it after admin
[11:38] <Enverex> mwe, What does visudoers thingy do anyway?
[11:38] <Intangir> fishy: one of those was important to the default sudoers i think
[11:38] <comtech_> Intangir, you're normally supposed to use vigrp
[11:38] <niklas_> i had with totem, could not see xvid codecs, i installed vlc and it worked, but i didnt like it and removed vlc, now i have no sound in totem, some one that knows why?
[11:38] <Warbo> linmu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18881 That is the relevant part of mine
[11:38] <jrib> goonies: no, that is gone in dapper.  The menu was reorganized
[11:38] <darius_> comtech_: is this a laptop?
[11:38] <Intangir> comtech_: mkay
[11:38] <mwe> Enverex, check for errors before letting you save the sudoers file
[11:38] <GTX> Intangir, look pm
[11:38] <fishy> Intangir: I'm extremely confused. How do I get there, how do I put my name in there, how do I save?
[11:38] <comtech_> darius_, no, and it's running at full clockspeed
[11:38] <goonies> jrib, ok cool
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> fishy: what exactly are you trying to do. That link you gave was not very clear
[11:39] <Cntryboy> niklas: yah vlc is buggy, but it's a lot better than totem
[11:39] <comtech_> I have a similarly spec'd laptop that runs WAY better
[11:39] <comtech_> runs great actually
[11:39] <Cntryboy> mwe: okay updating done,
[11:39] <jrib> goonies: just use the menu editor to hide that folder since it is empty
[11:39] <niklas_> Cntryboy, really buggy, thats why i didnt like it, and it's apperance..
[11:39] <Cntryboy> mwe: did get one error though Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out
[11:39] <darius_> comtech_: I have a similar experience w/ my laptop but I don't know if it can be related https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/30557
[11:39] <Spec> comtech_: yeah, my laptop runs waay better too.
[11:39] <Intangir> fishy: user your rescue disk
[11:39] <mwe> Cntryboy, now sudo apt-get install apt-file.
[11:40] <fishy> Jack_Sparrow: I'm trying to install something via apt-get. I can't use sudo, which means I can't do that. I want to make it so sudo doesn't give an error and lets me do administrative things.
[11:40] <Intangir> fishy: get root. then mount your drive
[11:40] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[11:40] <darius_> comtech_: you can always give the fix a try
[11:40] <niklas_> any other programs you can watch Xvid with?
[11:40] <fishy> Intangir: What rescue disc?
[11:40] <GTX> Intangir, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss, then sudo nano /etc/firefox/firefoxrc, and change to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[11:40] <Intangir> fishy: didnt you say you could get root with a boot disk?
[11:40] <Cntryboy> niklas: but most codecs works for it, totem when i tried it even with codecs would just auto close itself lol
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> fishy: what are you trying to install?
[11:40] <goonies> jrib, sorry to ask but where can that be found
[11:40] <Warbo> niklas_: MPlayer, Totem, GXine/Xine-UI
[11:40] <GTX> Then restart firefox Intangir and it will work with everything else
[11:40] <dli_> fishy, you are not following any advice here
[11:40] <GTX> :D
[11:40] <Intangir> GTX: oh ya i did that, but its still out of sync
[11:40] <GTX> I see Intangir
[11:40] <Cntryboy> mwe: said it's already the newest file lol
[11:40] <Intangir> is it in sync for you?
[11:40] <fishy> dli_: I know. I know what I need to do, I just can't do it.
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> dli_: YEa, not listening
[11:41] <mwe> usually you can just boot to recovery mode to get a root prompt if sudo is broken
[11:41] <baconbacon> niklas_: vlc too
[11:41] <Intangir> any flash video player ive tried was out of sync
[11:41] <Intangir> i figured its just cause flash video players suck ;)
[11:41] <GTX> Intangir, seems to be to a degree. I guess the best thing for us to do is to wait for flash to make it alsa native :)
[11:41] <Intangir> any non flash player, like mplayer works fine
[11:41] <Cntryboy> mwe: so what command do I use with apt-file again? apt-file search filename?
[11:41] <mwe> Cntryboy, sudo apt-get install apt-file did?
[11:41] <fishy> dli_: I should go into recovery mode, type "vigr," add my name to the Admin group, save, and exit.
[11:41] <Warbo> Intangir: MPlayer works for me
[11:41] <jrib> goonies: install 'alacarte' and then it should be in applications > accessories, not sure if it shows up as just "menu editor" or as "alacarte"
[11:41] <mwe> Cntryboy, oh apt-file update said that?
[11:41] <dli_> fishy, there's already a solution on the link of your question
[11:41] <Intangir> Warbo: ya
[11:41] <fishy> dli_: If I knew how to add my name or save, I could probably do just fine.
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Intangir: Flash sucks as a restricted format
[11:41] <wildman> niklas_, FYI: mplayer (w/o win32 codecs cuz I'm on x86_64) plays almost every video I throw at it
[11:41] <mcphail_> Intangir: most flash vidoe _sources_ i've seen are out of sync
[11:41] <fishy> dli_: I know, but I don't know how to save or add my name, or where.
[11:41] <linmu> Warbo: Thank You. I pasted and saved. do i just log out and in or do I need to restart?
[11:42] <Intangir> mcphail_: how do you find out the source?
[11:42] <fishy> dli_: How do I save the file?
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> fishy: try gksudo nautilus and tell me what happens
[11:42] <Cntryboy> mwe: sudo apt-get install apt-file      said that
[11:42] <mwe> Cntryboy, well that's fine then, apt-file search filename, yes
[11:42] <Intangir> mcphail_: like on youtube i havent been able to figure out what its loading into that flash
[11:42] <Amaranth> jrib: Alacarte is installed by default
[11:42] <wildman> niklas_, only some WMV ones cannot be played, but are a real minority, and not very important to me anyway.
[11:42] <Cntryboy> mwe: i guess it worked earlier all but cdrom when i bypassed it
[11:42] <mwe> Cntryboy maybe so
[11:42] <Warbo> linmu: Just logging out and in should work, but I would press ctrl-alt-backspace on the login screen just to make sure before you log back in
[11:42] <ardchoille> jrib: Does he not have alacarte installed? It installed with the system on my machines.
[11:42] <fishy> Jack_Sparrow: I typed in my password, and I got an error in the terminal: steven is not in the sudoers file.
[11:42] <mcphail_> Intangir: youtubeis famous for having a 0.5sec gap between video and sound. Same on windoze with fully updated flash
[11:42] <Cntryboy> mwe: it came up with nothing
[11:42] <Cntryboy> mwe: so I'm taking it I don't have it
[11:43] <dli_> fishy, vi ? Press Esc, then Press ZZ (capital), or, :wq
[11:43] <Warbo> If alacarte is taken out of the menu then that is silly :(, need a terminal
[11:43] <Cntryboy> mwe: so I guess I need to find out how to get libgtkhtml-2.so.0
[11:43] <goonies> linux amazes me, if u leave it for 3 months and come back u get lost in so much new features =] 
[11:43] <mwe> Cntryboy, maybe it's not available in ubuntu. the thing sounds broken or outdated.
[11:43] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:43] <Intangir> mcphail_: oh, well i guess thats the problem
[11:43] <comtech_> thanks darius I will check that out
[11:43] <fishy> dli_: I'm not sure if it is vi or not. I type in "vigr" on the recovery terminal. Is that vi?
[11:43] <Cntryboy> goonies: haha lost in new features, with my turle dialup I have to stay where i'm at lol
[11:43] <mwe> Cntryboy, try apt-file search libgtkhtml
[11:43] <nox-Hand> I went on holiday for three weeks, and now my Ubuntu - even after update - is slow as hell. anyone got ideas why?
[11:44] <mwe> Cntryboy, or apt-file search libgtk|grep html
[11:44] <dli_> fishy, yes, it's vi
[11:44] <Intangir> Jack_Sparrow: you need to add CAPTAIN to your name
[11:44] <goonies> Cntryboy, lol
[11:44] <Cntryboy> mwe: this is searching my linux though right? if it came back with nothing, I don't have it, should I be trying to download it?
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Smile when you say that
[11:44] <darius_> comtech_: if it solves your problem, please post your system info to that thread.  The more that developers understand the breadth of impact, the quicker it will get fixed
[11:44] <dli_> nox-Hand, dapper?
[11:44] <Coffeegrinds> ok I'm back again And I'm still having issues getting my joystick to work as a mouse
[11:44] <Intangir> Jack_Sparrow: haha
[11:44] <Hoxzer> how can I see what program is using my sound input
[11:44] <fishy> dli_: Alright, now I know how to save. Where do I add my name?
[11:44] <mwe> Cntryboy, it's searhing the list of all availble ubuntu files
[11:44] <mwe> Cntryboy, from all packages, installed or not
[11:45] <Cntryboy> mwe: all those commands go to next line with nothing
[11:45] <Coffeegrinds> my last attemppt just Killed my X server
[11:45] <comtech_> darius, did your system run very sluggishly, or just report a high load? cause mine is SLOW
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fishy: You may end up booting a live cd like knoppix or ? and trying to fix it manually
[11:45] <dli_> fishy, read the thread you posted, ask your questions after that
[11:45] <mwe> Cntryboy, sudo you sudo apt-file update?
[11:45] <darius_> comtech_: very sluggishly - you could see the effects by just minimizing a window
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> comtech_: is that box a P4
[11:45] <comtech_> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[11:45] <mwe> Cntryboy, did you do that I mean, sudo apt-file update
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> comtech_: is it about 12 to 18 months old?
[11:46] <Intangir> whats apt-file?
[11:46] <fishy> dli_: That's not my thread. I know how to fix it now. I was just wondering how I could save and where I added information.
[11:46] <Cntryboy> can't remember doing it now though
[11:46] <comtech_> Jack_Sparrow, no idea, I pieced it together as a lab box
[11:46] <darius_> comtech_: changint the cstate after each bootup "solves" the problem
[11:46] <comtech_> it's probably more like 5 years old
[11:46] <mwe> Intangir, it searhes for packages providing a given file
[11:46] <Cntryboy> mwe: The sizes do not match (local 5726120) -- retrieving.
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> comtech_: I am thinking you may need to pull the cpu fan and re-apply thermal grease...
[11:46] <comtech_> darius_, my cpu doesn't throttle
[11:46] <mwe> Cntryboy, good
[11:46] <Cntryboy> mwe: Reusing existing connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80
[11:46] <Cntryboy> thats what it says
[11:46] <dli_> fishy, http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vimqrc.html
[11:46] <mwe> Cntryboy, and it starts download the file list I guess?
[11:46] <comtech_> nah I did a good job building it :P
[11:46] <Cntryboy> mwe: then its doing this 0K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  0%    1.80 KB/s
[11:46] <comtech_> it's not overheating
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> comtech_: I have had a dozen of those this month with the heat (San Diego)
[11:47] <Intangir> fishy: what are you adding your name to?
[11:47] <mwe> Cntryboy, yeah. It's not that big a download
[11:47] <comtech_> you a computer tech too?
[11:47] <Intangir> ew your using vim?
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[11:47] <Cntryboy> mwe: okay
[11:47] <Intangir> just use nano its probably simpler
[11:47] <darius_> comtech_: you could calso try the previous Ubuntu release - I didn't have the problem with Breezy
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> comtech_: SO you checked the temp right
[11:47] <Cntryboy> so cache search searches hd while apt-file does hd and ubuntu database right?
[11:47] <dli_> fishy, my question is how the problem emerged? why couldn't you simply login to the first user and do admin
[11:47] <ax> i'm trying to install vmware, and i need the "C header files that match your running", i installed linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 and uname -a gives me "2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT", i point vmware to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26/include but vmware complains that these headers don't match my kernel, any pointers?
[11:48] <Intangir> ax: gimme a second
[11:48] <Warbo> Cntryboy: cache searches online and HD, while I think apt-file looks for files inside packages
[11:48] <Cntryboy> mwe: right?
[11:48] <mwe> ax, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) proably
[11:48] <Intangir> ax: there are virtual packages that rely on the latest kernels, and kernel headers
[11:48] <dli_> Cntryboy, apt-file searchs the database (via apt-file update), but it searches for filenames
[11:48] <Cntryboy> warbo: okay thx
[11:48] <Warbo> Cntryboy: As long as you have downloaded lists (apt-get update)
[11:48] <Coffeegrinds> can someone give me a hand withgetting my joystick to work with X as a mouse
[11:49] <Cntryboy> my brain is so boggy and slow today, its like I don't know what im doing lol
[11:49] <nox-Hand>   dli_, Dapper indeed
[11:49] <dli_> Cntryboy, you can use packages.ubuntu.com for apt-cache or apt-file
[11:49] <ax> mwe: it says i already have the package
[11:49] <mwe> Cntryboy, apt-file doesn't search you hdd
[11:49] <Cntryboy> say no to drugs
[11:49] <Cntryboy> lol
[11:49] <mwe> Cntryboy, huh?
[11:49] <Intangir> ax: there is a package called linux-kernel-headers
[11:49] <dli_> nox-Hand, dapper is known to be buggy, however, you may want to check some basic system info, df -h , free -m , top , who
[11:50] <Intangir> you can use it to install the l.. latest kernel headers ;)
[11:50] <mwe> ax, yes
[11:50] <Intangir> but also make sure you install the latest kernel;
[11:50] <Cntryboy> mwe: huh to what bro?
[11:50] <Intangir> ax: oh
[11:50] <ax> yeah, i already have it
[11:50] <Intangir> does it compile it but just not load it?
[11:50] <Intangir> whats the error again/
[11:50] <Cntryboy> how long is apt-file update list? taking awhile lol
[11:51] <Cntryboy> or shall I say big
[11:51] <mwe> Cntryboy, I didn't get the say no to drugs but then I read further and catched up
[11:51] <comtech_> Jack_Sparrow, yeah it's good
[11:51] <ax> Intangir: "The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15-26) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel."
[11:51] <mwe> Cntryboy, I'd less than an hour on your connection :)
[11:52] <Intangir> make sure you have the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel headers
[11:52] <Intangir> and give that as the path to vmware
[11:52] <Cntryboy> mwe: oh just meaning, don't toke the wacky backy if u plan on doing anything that is foreign to ya, like linux is to me lol.. studying medical stuff or what ever im fine, linux im in a cloud already sober so lol.
[11:52] <mwe> Cntryboy, no. I don't know how big it is. probably a few minutes
[11:52] <Intangir> but actually while your at it, upgrade your kernel, and kernel drives to either 686 for pentiums or k7 for amds
[11:52] <mwe> Cntryboy, yeah :)
[11:52] <Cntryboy> 7%
[11:52] <Cntryboy> is last line
[11:52] <Cntryboy> lol
[11:53] <mwe> Cntryboy, oh
[11:53] <mykilx> anyone here play sauerbraten on 64bit?
[11:53] <Intangir> its unlikely you cant use higher than the 386 versions
[11:53] <Cntryboy> this will prob take me like a day
[11:53] <Cntryboy> lol
[11:53] <mwe> Cntryboy, you'll be happy having it though
[11:53] <Intangir> ax: what CPU do you have?
[11:53] <Cntryboy> brb going to water dogs
[11:54] <ax> Intangir: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, i figure i shouldn't be running 386 but that is what the base install gave me
[11:54] <mwe> ax, that wont work with vmware I think. not sure though
[11:54] <ax> the cpu won't?
[11:54] <mwe> ax, no not running a 64bit kernel on that cpu
[11:54] <ax> i'm runing 32 bit
[11:55] <mwe> ax, yes
[11:55] <mwe> ax, but your cpu is 64bit. I don't think vmware likes that
[11:55] <pike_> ax: i have a little sempron 64 and havent had any problems with the k7 kernel in dapper
[11:55] <mwe> ax, 32bit kernel, 64bit cpu that is
[11:55] <Intangir> ax: do this: apt-get update
[11:55] <nox-Hand> dli_:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[11:55] <nox-Hand> Mem:           503        499          4          0          2        119
[11:56] <Intangir> ax: apt-get install linux-headers-k7
[11:56] <nox-Hand> That's not good is it? (( shit, sorry about the crappy paste
[11:56] <Intangir> ax: apt-get install linux-image-k7
[11:56] <dli_> nox-Hand, don't paste here
[11:56] <nox-Hand> Indeed.
[11:56] <mwe> nox-Hand, that's a good sign, probably
[11:56] <Intangir> ax: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7
[11:56] <nox-Hand> Okay
[11:56] <ax> what are the restricted modules?
[11:56] <mwe> nox-Hand, it's probably just all cached
[11:57] <dli_> nox-Hand, you have 119MB cached, sounds good
[11:57] <Intangir> ax: oh looks like there is an even better kernel for dual cores
[11:57] <ax> why does apt suggest lilo? i already have grub installed
[11:57] <nox-Hand> dli_: okay
[11:57] <Intangir> ax: restricted modules has a bunch of odds and ends drivers for like madwifi wirelss, and nvidia kernel
[11:57] <nox-Hand> mwe: Erm, could you join #nox-hand for a sec?
[11:57] <mwe> nox-Hand, ok
[11:57] <Intangir> ax: does it only suggest it? and not isntall it?
[11:58] <ax> yeah, it just suggests it
[11:58] <mcphail> ax: your current kernel is fine for vmware, but not ideal for your hardware. You shouldn't need to change your kernel to get vmware running
[11:58] <Intangir> there is an 'linux-k7-smp' with better multi processor support
[11:58] <Intangir> ive never tried it though so..
[11:58] <ax> okay, well, i might as well change my kernel anyways
[11:58] <wildman> bye ppl
[11:58] <wildman> have a nice one
[11:59] <dandesousa> is there a guide for enabling direct rendering?
[11:59] <Intangir> ax: after you get all those virutal packages (which will probably upgrade your kernel) reboot
[11:59] <Warbo> !ati
[11:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:59] <Intangir> and then reinstall vmware, and give it that full path, with -k7 and everything
[11:59] <Intangir> and it shouldnt complain and should work
[11:59] <Warbo> (that is for both companies)
[11:59] <dandesousa> not using ati or nvidia
[11:59] <mykilx> how about libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 i installed it via synaptic, and it seems to have installed it in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib32
[12:00] <knapper_> In gaim, how do I get rid of this stupid away popup box (ie when I go away it shows the away box + 'im back' etc)
[12:00] <Warbo> dandesousa: Oh, OK
[12:00] <dandesousa> !intel
[12:00] <ax> Intangir: cool, thanks a lot for your help, i'm installing right now
[12:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:00] <mykilx> app that's trying to use it is looking in /usr/lib32
[12:00] <Warbo> !i810
[12:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about i810 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:00] <dandesousa> damn
[12:00] <mcphail> ax: if it works, vmware will autodetect the correct path
[12:00] <digitalhav0c> hey guys
[12:00] <digitalhav0c> anyone know how i can join two avi files in ubuntu
[12:00] <dandesousa> any suggestions warbo?
[12:00] <dli_> knapper_, in gaim preferrences