=== imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Riddell] by ChanServ === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.42.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] KSystemLog needs an update if anyone wants to volunteer http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23761 === pounk [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:13] Riddell: umm it looks like edgy is already at 0.3.2 [02:13] brandon@intrepid:~/devel/ksystemlog$ apt-cache madison ksystemlog [02:13] ksystemlog | 0.3.2-0ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages [02:13] ksystemlog | 0.3.2-0ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.34.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@64.213.227.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:30] morning all [03:30] any way of exluding a package of beeeing updated [03:30] ? [03:30] hi Hobbsee [03:30] hi lnxkde [03:30] pin it? [03:31] ? [03:31] pin it? [03:31] :( [03:31] dont know what you meen [03:31] pin the package so it doesnt get updated [03:31] in synaptic there's a 'lock package' function [03:32] dunno if it's there in adept, and i dont know how to find it w.r.t apt-get/aptitude [03:32] ohh [03:32] ok [03:32] now [03:33] thankx [03:33] I didnt know that the lock option was for that :p [03:33] :( === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.40.165] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee gets told off about the download limit. hehe, i know. [03:35] Riddell: how's kde 3.5.4 doing? [03:36] howdy Hobbsee rob [03:36] Riddell, err [03:37] hi robotgeek === lnxkde has no download limit but only has a 60k/sec conecction [03:37] Riddell's likely asleep [03:37] heh, np [03:37] does anyone have a what's new in kubuntu edgy list? (planned stuff also) [03:38] someone knows any nice racent movie, documental, video that talks about linux??? [03:38] hmm, revolution os [03:38] pretty old though [03:38] just watching it right now [03:39] robotgeek: somewhat [03:39] did htey break mesa with the latest updates? === abattoir [n=ani@59.92.40.165] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:40] hmm, i've been busy with new job === abattoir [n=ani@59.92.40.165] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:41] bbl [03:42] Hobbsee: link to somewhat list? [03:42] robotgeek: ssh into my brain :P [03:43] Hobbsee: url :) [03:43] URI, rather [03:43] (lame) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] i really need to get with jjess [03:43] hehe [03:44] Howdy [04:00] robotgeek: in short, kde 3.5.4, kopete 0.12.1, konversation 0.20, more sane defaults, other upgraded packages, including amarok 1.4.2 (maybe, otherwise .1), === robotgeek sees this release going easy on him :) [04:06] imbrandon: imbrandon_ ping? [04:06] robotgeek: hmmm? [04:06] Hobbsee: pong [04:07] robotgeek: also, we're getting more developers coming in, whcih is good - useful for edgy and edgy+1 when they learn more [04:07] imbrandon_: intrepid is throwing errors all over the place - which arent reproducable on other systems. [04:07] Hobbsee: i dont see too many changes to the documentation already present (desktop guide wise) [04:07] Hobbsee: like ? [04:07] imbrandon_: dunno if you want to reformat, or not run off the vm, or what, but you probably need to look and deal with it [04:07] imbrandon_: more gcc errors [04:07] robotgeek: yeah, but there [04:08] s other doco stuff to do :) [04:08] robotgeek: you can write the development doco - a lot of that is quite old - and references bugzilla. [04:08] Hobbsee: ok i can do that tonight , backup anyting you need off it [04:08] Hobbsee: currently, dont have too much time though. trying to get settled in new job, new place etc [04:08] Hobbsee: i'll do a fresh install from the knot1cd [04:09] imbrandon_: i dont have anything there, except the stuff in /usr/local/bin - if you could back that up, thatd' be cool [04:09] imbrandon_: oh cool [04:09] robotgeek: yeah, fair enough. i've got all this time due to uni holidays, which is good [04:09] Hobbsee: ok yea just the usr/local/bin stuff i'll backup the rest i'll format [04:09] Hobbsee: planning to get a desktop also, pretty difficult to mess around on the laptop. no vm's either [04:10] imbrandon_: make sure you grab the /var/cache/pbuilder/* stuff - you can delet ethe stuff in builds, and result, but leave the rest. === Hobbsee doesnt want to have to have that misery setting it all up again. [04:10] imbrandon_: oh, wait, i can do that from here, if you want - and get rid of the stuff you dont wnat to backup [04:11] *logs in* [04:11] Hobbsee: nah no biggie i can grab it, it will be faster for me to backup [04:11] imbrandon_: yeah, your fun of backing it up [04:11] oh cool, you cna use clean for that. [04:12] yea i'll just run clean === Hobbsee is on edgy now. === Hobbsee is, on edgy now. [04:12] huh ? [04:13] ie, i'm already running that command on the edgy pbuilder [04:13] ahh ok [04:14] yea lemme finish eating dinner and i'll backup after you've cleaned it [04:14] k [04:14] but tbh if i backup that base.gz its gonna be the same gcc [04:14] might nbe betrter to start over [04:22] brb afk , i'll do it when i get back [04:22] from dinner [04:23] nah, the base.gz is okay - that gets upgraded each time anyway, and works with dist-upgrades [04:24] imbrandon_: uh...somethings' screwed with that machine. but yeah, anyway, it should be done [04:25] i'm logged in as root, and it's still telling me permission denied, etc. [04:25] and operation not permitte [04:25] weird. [04:35] Hobbsee: you are familiar w/ pbuilder right? [04:37] Hobbsee: for what ? and rember if your getting gcc errors its using the gcc from that base.gz [04:38] so if something is screwy its more than likely with the pbuilder base.gz not the OS but to be sure we can start all over, wont take long to make a new base.gz [04:39] Hobbsee: do you know why it might not create base.tgz when i run 'sudo pbuilder create' ? [04:39] or imbrandon_ ??? [04:40] abattoir_: got an error ? [04:40] imbrandon_: nope it runs fine, downloads everything... then when i try to build, i get base.tgz not found [04:41] imbrandon_: i also tried --basetgz [04:41] doesnt work === Hobbsee was afk [04:47] imbrandon_: good point === Hobbsee wonders where the base.tgz is supposed to be, as opposed to where it actually is. === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.41.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sean_ [n=sean@71-214-89-10.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:23] Hobbsee: what's the issue? [05:23] crimsun: with which? the gcc stuff? [05:23] whatever probs [05:23] crimsun: ah, we're just having trouble with imbrandon's machine. === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.82] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.95.254] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:18] HI imbrandon [06:18] heya DaSkreech === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@221.196.154.132] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.95.209] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:57] Hi [06:57] hello [06:58] I think I'm heading off for the night [06:58] late DaSkreech [06:58] late* [06:58] later* [06:58] grr [06:59] night DaSkreech [06:59] late* does give later ;-) [07:07] Night imbrandon_ Hobbsee Riddell nixternal mornfall and umm abattoir for posterity [07:10] huh? wth? [07:10] :P === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:12] Binaries from kopete 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.1-0ubuntu2 cannot be installed: [08:12] does that overwrite files, or something? === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.84.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.105] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:31] hi [08:32] hi toma [08:32] hey Hobbsee [08:32] how's life? [08:33] toma: okay, feels weird not to be doing dev stuff though [08:33] why not? [08:34] toma: not enough bandwidth to last till the end of the month if i do === Hobbsee will do some on friday, when she's not at home. [08:34] Hobbsee: dont you have a login on a remote machine? === hunger [n=tobias@p54A64399.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:35] toma: i do, and the gcc is currently screwed on it [08:47] Hobbsee: hmm [08:47] Hobbsee: time to upgrade to flat-fee ? [08:47] toma: and i havent had the motivation to fight with pbuilder again to fix the gcc. [08:47] toma: doesnt exist here - this is the "unlimited" plan === Hobbsee doenst pay the internet bill anyway - dad's work does. [08:47] toma: we get cut back to 64k after we go over 10mb [08:47] wow, that system does not exist here [08:47] toma: and seeing as we end up using around 300mb a day, on average, and have about 1gb left....well...you can do the maths :P [08:47] all adsl are based on 'fair-use' === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:47] lucky [08:47] adsl here is terrible. [08:47] s/adsl/cable/ [08:47] cable? [08:47] as in tv-cable? [08:47] no, it's another form of adsl, i think [08:47] although it doesnt go thru the phonelines - it's a separate cable into the house [08:47] ah, ok. [08:47] 300mb a day is a bit high anyway ;-) [08:47] toma: it's called edgy updates, and building things. [08:47] there are 2 people using it. [08:47] i'm using caches and whatever, so i dont always need all the packages again - but it's pretty nasty. === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:47] ;-( [08:47] nothing anyone can help you with [08:47] not really... [08:47] toma: but i'm not here for the next couple of days anyway === toma stares at the screen... WHAT? [08:47] toma: hmmm? what's up? [08:47] you not being here for a couple of days???? [08:47] how is kubuntu going to survive? [08:47] toma: yeah, no internet connection (yet) at my friends place... [08:47] hehe - no idea [08:47] like it did before i got involved, probably [08:48] unlikely [08:49] toma: you could always take my place :P [08:50] oh no [08:50] hehe [08:50] toma: no? [08:50] toma: whyever not? [08:50] i'm not so good in packaging [08:50] besides, Riddell is around to code things. [08:50] and i don't like the tools you have to work with [08:51] besides i feel more satisfied creating an app then a package [08:51] toma: ah...true... === Hobbsee tries to avoid that, alhtough i guess i'll need to in uni [08:52] that? [08:53] sorry - to avoid creating new apps [08:53] ah [08:53] it's fun, it's creative [08:54] toma: true [08:54] toma: i've yet to learn how what i type in and make as a program to run by a console translates to actually using the hardware on a system, and making a GUI, etc. [08:55] toma: and until i learn that, i dont feel that i have enough of a grip on how to write a program to give myself that title. [08:55] if that makes sense. === Hobbsee is often very underconfident. [08:55] yes [08:56] Hobbsee: can you check your mail from where yor at ? [08:56] your* [08:56] you should grab a mentor/friend, clear your agenda, pick a manual and start. [08:56] moins toma [08:56] imbrandon: check my mail? what, locally? [08:56] ;) [08:56] hi imbrandon [08:56] toma: heh - i'm in the wrong country for that. [08:56] why is that? [08:57] Hobbsee: i was gonna forward something i wanted you to read real fast [08:57] but i would like to get to one of the conferences one day. [08:57] imbrandon: sure, to hobbsee@kubuntu.org [08:57] with the Internet, country isn't nearly as important :-) [08:57] k [08:57] crimsun: well, yeah, of course, but it does help... [08:57] yea irc is great ;) === imbrandon is a fan of VoIP too [08:57] true === Hobbsee doesnt like VOIP that much - not with lots of people. === Hobbsee wonders what she was going to do. [08:58] oh yeah, i was going ot check my uni exam dates. [08:59] Hobbsee kk sent [08:59] imbrandon: cool :) === Hobbsee reads. [09:01] Examinations 15 November 1 December [09:01] !schedule [09:01] Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [09:03] sigh. [09:05] there are actually mp3s of me reading stuff somewhere on the Web [09:06] crimsun: like audio book type stuff ? [09:06] kinda [09:06] cool [09:07] imbrandon: cool [09:09] imbrandon: that email's pretty public - adn i read anything from anyone off there pretty quickly - bar mailing lists/ bug reports, of course. [09:09] imbrandon: so feel free to send stuff to it, it's fine by me :) [09:10] esp as it doesnt have a bandwidth limit. [09:10] ;) === Hobbsee has yet to have thunderbird eat her mail [09:10] you like ? [09:10] oh drat, i forgot lunch again [09:10] lol [09:10] imbrandon: yeah, i do. you guys will need to be a bit more professional though, imo === Hobbsee always tries to be professional - and for good reason, based on some of the stuff i do [09:11] sorta in some respects but some as its not intended to be professional totaly from the orig BOF [09:11] imbrandon: and that includes not having your writers showing the bad side of people, as such. [09:11] i realise that [09:11] but yea [09:12] imbrandon: i think i did too much english at school. but i'm happy to proofread your stuff, sanity check it, etc. [09:12] we did a *lot* of magazine article stuff - like on audience, language, etc. [09:12] ;) [09:12] hated it then - but it's kinda useful now [09:17] imbrandon: mainly because, if you dont, people will be hesitant to commit anything, because they know it could well be used against them if it's not well liked. [09:18] yup === Hobbsee is already wary of putting things on the agenda now. [09:18] why ? [09:19] imbrandon: because of what nixternal said last time, and the way he put it [09:19] ahh yea nixternal needs a good thump in community news , i have noticed === imbrandon glares === Hobbsee doesnt like bitching attacks against devs. makes the writer very low, and causes nothing except destruction. [09:20] unless it's on a blog [09:21] if what nixternal said had gone to publication, everyone would have thought "warning, hobbsee is a bitch, and likely to pull stupid shit at random" [09:21] crimsun: a blog is not a professional news site. fortunately. [09:21] well that's the argument I've made for a long time. [09:21] crimsun: and blogs arent coming into our discussion at all :P (i hope) [09:22] on the other hand, people always seem to forget that, say, slashdot is a blog. [09:22] ;) [09:22] hmmm [09:22] crimsun: well, yeah, that's true. [09:22] i think the whole thing on the UWN is being blown out of proportion, because it was never stated ina way that it would reflect negatively on anyone, and you can go back and look at the changes [09:23] if someone adds a lot to an agenda, to me that means they are working and have a lot on their mind for the team..i don't know what UWN you all were reading, but it definately wasn't the one I was working on === Hobbsee saw the original. and it effectively read "who could forget this, lets have a good laugh at what happened" [09:23] wait, what did I miss? [09:24] it didn't say that at all [09:24] crimsun: i'm bitching about something that almost went to print...and...uh... === toma is totally lost [09:24] imbrandon: the other thing's not public yet, is it? [09:24] Hobbsee: nope [09:24] imbrandon: shit. sorry. === Hobbsee shuts her mouth. [09:24] Hobbsee: you me mark and jane ;) [09:24] np ;) [09:25] mmkay. I'm going to stay out of the drama if at all possible. === crimsun leaves for work [09:25] anyhow how is -dev tongiht ;) [09:25] bye crimsun [09:25] seeya crimsun [09:26] if there are secret things going, can you move to a secret channel [09:26] i hate this [09:30] toma: its no secret , just hasent been announced yet, buntudot.org is being absorbed into theFridge to bring some much needed life to it ;) === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] [09:33] sigh. i feel like the villiage idiot now. where's the dunce cap? [09:33] forgetting about confidentiailty. eek. [09:33] who removed my brain, and can i have it back please? [09:33] heh [09:33] oops === ajmitch wonders what Hobbsee did now === Hobbsee glares at ajmitch [09:33] heh [09:33] ajmitch: you cant see, right above? [09:34] I wasn't reading it, no [09:34] ajmitch: we got a bit -offtopic and started talking about somethings that arent official yet , twas no biggie realy === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:35] right [09:35] nothing unusual [09:36] ;P [09:36] ajmitch: you're saying that i usually screw up then? [09:36] you're on very dangerous territory. [09:36] Hobbsee: stop misinterpreting what I said === Hobbsee does not have a very high patience threshold at the moment [09:36] :P [09:39] anyway, i'll get more sane when uni goes back, and i can get out of this house. [09:39] so sorry all for you having to put up with me until that point :P [09:44] when do you go back? [09:44] i think i have like 3 weeks or so [09:44] RichJ: monday. thank goodness. [09:44] dang, didn't you just get out? [09:45] i'm sick of being lectured for things like pressing the buttons of the dryer too hard, which is apparently a major issue. [09:45] gahahaha [09:45] RichJ: got out at the end of june [09:45] holy cow, it has been a month already [09:46] i'm serious - that's one of the lectures i got this morning - and that's why i'm so...horrible...at the moment [09:46] time flies when your having fun [09:47] heh wow Hobbsee [09:47] RichJ: yeah, true. and i had ajmitch over here for part of that. [09:47] imbrandon: yeah. welcome to my house :P [09:47] lol [09:48] RichJ: see PM, if you havent already. [09:48] umm [09:48] lol...thats what the red 1 is in irssi [09:48] lol [09:48] quite likely ;p [09:48] hahah === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee is off. finaly. [10:27] kubuntu wont die in my absense, i'm sure :P [10:31] hehe === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-192-208.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:19] moin [11:23] moins [11:24] hi all [11:24] g'nite all [11:25] 4:30am, and i gotta get up in 3 hours === seaLne catches up and wonders if that means behindubuntu interviews will actually get mentioned on new fridge/buntudot thingy as aposed to submissions being ignored === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:56] seaLne: if what means? [11:56] ~0830 [11:57] ah hah [12:06] is kpdf broken for anyone else on edgy? [12:07] works for me [12:09] weird === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:19] Riddell: can you help me ? [12:19] Riddell: i'm trying to package oem-config... and am running into an error [12:20] abattoir: what's up? [12:20] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18920 line 121 [12:21] Riddell: am i doing something wrong? because there is no source dir. in the d-i directory... let alone localechooser [12:21] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/oem-config/mainline/d-i/ [12:27] seaLne: seems popper was changed and that broke kpdf [12:28] abattoir: if it's anything like ubiquity you have to run make -f debian/rules updates to download the d-i packages [12:28] abattoir: are you using pbuilder? [12:28] Riddell: yes [12:29] Riddell: so i cd to d-i and then run make-f debian/rules right? [12:29] *make -f === ttf [n=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] no, from the top directory [12:29] Riddell: oh, ok [12:29] look in debian/rules and see if there's an update rule [12:30] yes, there is [12:30] Riddell: AFAICS the default dapper installation doesn't have normal calculator [12:30] $(MAKE) -C d-i update [12:30] ttf: it has speedcrunch [12:32] Riddell: just to be sure, i run this before 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot' right? or between that and 'sudo pbuilder build' ? [12:32] Riddell: sorry, i'm new to packaging :P [12:33] abattoir: I'd use debuild [12:33] debuild -S -sa [12:33] Riddell: ok, i'll read up on that then [12:33] which just runs "dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot" but checks you have all the needed packages first [12:33] not -S -sa just now, that's for making the source package [12:34] then build in pbuilder? but yeah probably not :) [12:34] abattoir: then once you have it building for you on your local filesystem with debuild then bulid it in pbuilder to make sure it works on a fresh system [12:35] Riddell: well - wouldn't consider speedcrunch a "normal" calculator though :) [12:35] Riddell: hmm ok, thanks [12:35] Riddell: what about kcalc? [12:36] Riddell: i'm very very very sorry, i havent made the archive public... after Kamion's last revision, i couldnt get it to work, and he told me that i have to install it in order to get it to work(i was working on it from my home folder before :P) so i'll finish this up, make it work and upload it, again sorry. [12:36] ttf: kcalc smells compared to speedcrunch === seaLne likes kcalc, does what i need [12:37] ttf: but the new version of speedcrunch in edgy adds a keypad so it's more friendly to those who like to practice their hand/eye coordination [12:38] isn't speedcrunch just kcalc but more grey? :) [12:38] well it's not intuive at all - even I was confused when I saw it :) === ttf just wanted to make a suggestion.. [12:39] ttf: all suggestions welcome, but take a look at speedcrunch in edgy and let me know what you think [12:39] k - will do - will take a bit though [12:39] Riddell: speedcrunch was made in qt4? [12:40] Riddell: oh, yes, i saw in the about page... [12:40] abattoir: the new edgy version is yes [12:41] imo it doesn't make much sense to have qt4 apps in default kde3 desktop [12:42] more libs, more memory, slower startup [12:42] mornfall: we have to start the migration somewhere [12:42] with speedcrunch? come on... [12:42] and it doesn't make sense to start writing an app with qt3 [12:43] it's not like there was no qt3 app up for the job, is it? [12:43] there will be more qt 4 apps in edgy, I plan to do hwdb in qt 4 [12:44] well, i'm considering to drop the whole adept 2.x stuff and jump at porting to trunk kdelibs + qt-copy right away... but that would mean no new version for edgy, among other things [12:44] it would mean i spend time working on trunk kde [12:44] too === mornfall not decided [12:44] anyhow [12:45] i'll go to lunch now :) [12:45] (yes, it doesn't make sense to write new apps with qt3 now) === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-83-167.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-83-167.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.105] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:51] Hello [03:52] we've had an edubuntu takeover [03:52] ? [03:52] ? [03:52] kubuntu.org [03:53] doh, how'd that happen? [03:53] they have a really nice looking page btw [03:54] :-) [03:54] red bits in the menubar dn't quite go with the top :) [03:57] fixed now? [03:58] phew === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-37-183.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.32.105] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.32.105] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-79-192.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:11] anyone tried to use revu recently? === kane___ [n=kane@202.83.32.105] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-77-229.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.49.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:33] any amd64 users about to try kmobiletools? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2796 [05:34] seaLne: I can try if you want... edgy? [05:34] yeah [05:36] seaLne: ok, downloading... stupid question anyways :P [05:49] did it build? [05:50] seaLne: it complained about libglu1-mesa-dev and i'm installing that... which btw removes qt4-designer [05:52] that isn't really a problem with kmob afaik just other currently broken things? [05:54] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18946 [05:55] that's a general breakage, not specific to kmobile [05:55] Riddell: am i doing something wrong? [05:56] no, mesa is doing something wrong [05:58] so there is nothing that i can do? [05:59] you could compile and install mesa locally [05:59] kmob built in my pbuilder and normally for me [06:00] it'll have cached versions of mesa-common-dev [06:00] Riddell: i do have an up-to-date edgy... but tbh, it is updated every time i try to... [06:01] even with pbuilder update? [06:01] problem is that i386 mesa isn't built and that's the one that makes the _all packages [06:01] ah yeah, hadn't noticed how much was in /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.49.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:03] seaLne: i got builder only today, so it shows 0 packages to update [06:04] *pbuilder [06:04] Anyone in need of some kde 3.5.4 tester? === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] Riddell: so just wait till its fixed to check kmob? [06:13] seaLne: kmobiletools works for me on amd64 [06:13] compiles that is [06:13] good, i re made the tgz [06:13] hungerW: give me half an hour === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.49.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:21] admin.canonical.com #9906] Resolved: SSL certificate on wiki.kubuntu.org [06:22] that'll put hobbsee into a good mood [06:24]