[12:07] <intelikey> apt-cache search <what-ever>
[12:08] <timi> yeah apt cahce search kde
[12:08] <timi> when your using kde does turn out so well
[12:08] <draik> LOL
[12:08] <intelikey> normally dev  but sometimes  headers    you can filter with  | grep -ie <what_to_see>
[12:08] <draik> apt-cache search beer
[12:09] <intelikey> qbrew - Homebrewer's recipe calculator (uses Qt)
[12:09] <intelikey> ha  ha   and ha.
[12:10] <intelikey> @draik
[12:10] <draik> intelikey, I had to
[12:10] <draik> I'm wishing it was friday right now
[12:10] <intelikey> was just pointing out that even  "apt-cache search beer"  was in the repos.
[12:11] <draik> I wonder....
[12:12] <draik> xmms-wmdiscotux
[12:12] <draik> Dancing Penguin to XMMS
[12:12] <draik> SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!
[12:13] <GIGANTOR> byyyyeee
[12:13] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[12:13] <locoblade> hey guys quick question
[12:14] <locoblade> how do you have a program start up when linux starts up?
[12:14] <intelikey> locoblade init scripts
[12:14] <locoblade> like in windows where you just drag it to the startup folder
[12:14] <locoblade> init scripts?
[12:15] <intelikey> locoblade you want it to start on login or boot up ?
[12:15] <locoblade> login i suppose
[12:15] <locoblade> it's gaim
[12:15] <intelikey> add the command (or a link to it) to ~/.kde/Autostart   iirc
[12:16] <locoblade> ok
[12:16] <locoblade> thanks
[12:16] <locoblade> another question while im here
[12:16] <intelikey> ln -s /usr/bin/gaim ~/.kde/Autostart/gaim    maybe.
[12:16] <timi> alright im waiting for headers, it looks like this could take a while.
[12:16] <locoblade> cool
[12:17] <locoblade> is installing java as simple as apt-get install java package?
[12:17] <locoblade> i haven't restarted x server but that seems to easy
[12:17] <intelikey> timi yep you quickly learn to use the pre-build packages in the repos...  :)
[12:18] <intelikey> locoblade i thought java was installed by default on dapper systems....   but yes it's simple.
[12:18] <locoblade> oh
[12:18] <locoblade> maybe it is
[12:18] <BluesKaj> locoblade,use adept to install java
[12:19] <locoblade> i never thought that it might come with it
[12:19] <draik> locoblade, Adept is only at version 1.4... go to the java website and get the newer version
[12:19] <locoblade> yeah
[12:19] <intelikey> every time i'v installed dapper from the live cd i have immediately apt-get remove java   so it may only be default on the livecd install.....
[12:20] <locoblade> i'll do that
[12:20] <locoblade> it's not on the computer
[12:22] <draik> locoblade, here is a direct link... http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[12:31] <timi> geez the download was 73megs
[12:31] <draik> for what/
[12:31] <draik> ?
[12:32] <timi> i need a kde lib or someting
[12:32] <timi> so i just installed all this kde lib stuff
[12:32] <timi> err kde header
[12:32] <draik> hope it works for you
[12:32] <timi> it better f-in work
[12:33] <timi> the instal is 141megs
[12:33] <draik> enjoy your body merging with your seat!
[12:34] <draik> timi, type '/sysinfo' please
[12:34] <timi> '/sysinfo'
[12:34] <timi> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (4002 bogomips), , RAM: 986/1002MB, 110 proc's, 2.40h up
[12:34] <draik> minus the quotes
[12:34] <timi> sexy huh
[12:35] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 877/3031MB, 94 proc's, 1.51h up
[12:36] <draik> you're using 2.6.15-23? Never gotten the updates for 2.6.15-26?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> sysinfo
[12:37] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:37] <draik> lol
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Sysinfo for 'BEDROOM': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ at 995 MHz (1992 bogomips), HD: 38/146GB, RAM: 471/947MB, 95 proc's, 2.32h up
[12:37] <draik> BluesKaj, how do you get it to show your hdd?
[12:37] <cpk2> gaim doesnt support /sysinfo
[12:37] <BluesKaj> dunno
[12:38] <ranjan> sysinfo
[12:38] <draik> ranjan '/sysinfo'
[12:38] <ranjan> Sysinfo for 'agni': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ at 2211 MHz (4427 bogomips), HD: 13/145GB, RAM: 1765/2026MB, 112 proc's, 9.21h up
[12:38] <ranjan> ty
[12:39] <draik> yw
[12:39] <draik> ranjan, would you know how to get HD to be displayed?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> far cry from my old bedroom system , 233 MMx 128Ram, 6G Hdd
[12:39] <ranjan> sure
[12:41] <cpk2> ranjan: only 9 hour uptime? psh =P
[12:41] <ranjan> yep
[12:41] <timi> how do iupdate
[12:42] <draik> timi, update what?
[12:42] <timi> just sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <draik> timi, yes
[12:42] <timi> mmk
[12:42] <draik> ranjan, how do you display the HD?
[12:42] <cpk2> timi: its sudo apt-get update and then after you do that you do sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:42] <ranjan> just typed '/sysinfo'
[12:43] <timi> yeah i know
[12:43] <timi> i did that like a day ago i thought
[12:43] <ranjan> power  cut in cali 9 hours back
[12:43] <timi> anyways how do inow if kubuntu is actually using both cores
[12:43] <timi> will it ust do that automatically
[12:44] <cpk2> ranjan: where at?
[12:44] <timi> cuz on windows when i used process manage it showed cpu ussage for bot cores ubuntu just shows one
[12:45] <cpk2> timi: maybe because it is just using one
[12:45] <timi> damn it i didnt get a dual core for nothing
[12:45] <draik> ranjan, I do '/sysinfo' but it won't show my HD like it did for yours
[12:45] <timi> anyone know how i get it to recognize both
[12:45] <cpk2> timi: pretty sure rebuild the kernel
[12:46] <timi> errr that sounds redonkulous
[12:46] <timi> i thing im good
[12:47] <cpk2> timi: shouldnt be too hard to recompile, there should be a walkthrough on the wiki i bet
[12:47] <BluesKaj> does yer HDD show up in the storage media folder?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> draik,
[12:48] <draik> BluesKaj
[12:48] <draik> yes
[12:48] <BluesKaj> strange eh?
[12:48] <timi> hey i just ./configured something
[12:48] <timi> and it finally worked
[12:48] <timi> it said i should start make
[12:49] <timi> do i just type make
[12:49] <timi> or sudo make
[12:49] <draik> yup
[12:49] <Hawkwind> make
[12:49] <draik> very strange
[12:49] <Hawkwind> sudo make install if make succeeds
[12:49] <timi> how do i know if it succeeds
[12:49] <timi> it didnt say error
[12:50] <jpiccolo> can anyone help me get my sound working
[12:51] <timi> i got it
[12:52] <archangel_> Hey guys I have a fresh install here, and I'm wondering why my web pages dont take up the full space of my browser
[12:52] <cpk2> archangel_: using konquerer?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> yer res is likely set too high
[12:53] <archangel_> cpk2: using both (kon. & firefox)
[12:54] <jpiccolo> why are the nvidia drivers so hard to set up
[12:55] <wolfmanz> ATI ones are a pain to
[12:55] <draik> I never had an issue with my nVidia
[12:55] <jpiccolo> motherboard or video card
[12:55] <draik> video card
[12:55] <cpk2> jpiccolo: just apt-get the drivers
[12:55] <jpiccolo> i am trying to get the chipset drivers to work
[12:55] <jpiccolo> chipset cpk2
[12:56] <jpiccolo> so i can listen to my 5.1 speakers
[12:56] <jpiccolo> can anyone help with that?
[12:56] <cpk2> jpiccolo: did you look on the manufacturers/nvidias site for source files?
[12:57] <jpiccolo> not the source files
[12:57] <jpiccolo> i installed the package
[12:57] <jpiccolo> from nvidia
[12:57] <jpiccolo> seemed to work fine
[12:57] <jpiccolo> but i get this error when i type nvmixer:
[12:58] <jpiccolo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Major opcode:  143
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:58] <jpiccolo> Failed to open device
[12:58] <jpiccolo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Major opcode:  143
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:58] <jpiccolo> Failed to open device
[12:59] <rr72> how do i get cups working properly so i can print from my windows machine?
[12:59] <jpiccolo> alsamixer
[12:59] <vervirt> Jemand deutsches hier der mir helfen kann?
[01:01] <dan> hey does anyone know why i cant hear any sound when i use amorak?
[01:02] <dan> the sound works when i use vlc to play movies
[01:02] <rr72> how do i set up cups so that i can print form other machines?
[01:02] <jpiccolo> dan are u using 5.1 or just standard out
[01:02] <dan> just standard
[01:03] <Philip5> Hawkwind: btw, the ./configure for libeet gets the same with easy e17 too so false alarm from my side... i just want this to be right before i do anything public
[01:03] <dan> but i've tried changing that
[01:03] <Hikaru79> O_O For some reason I'm banned from #php... and I've never even been there before.
[01:03] <Hikaru79> Can someone who happens to be in #php ask an op to unban my hostmask?
[01:04] <Rivelino> there ain't any ops
[01:05] <vervirt> JEMAND DEUTSCHES HIER?
[01:05] <dan> ich komme aus deutschland
[01:05] <vervirt> Kenste dich nen bischen aus mit Kubuntu?
[01:05] <Hikaru79> Oh =( Drat.
[01:05] <dan> nur ein bischen
[01:06] <vervirt> Ich kriege es nicht hin meine auflsung umzustellen.. weisste da was?
[01:06] <abattoir> !de
[01:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:06] <Hawkwind> !dutch
[01:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about dutch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Ermmm
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Dutch, German, it's all the same :P
[01:06] <dan> hasst du das gesehen, frag dort mal
[01:06] <dan> no its not
[01:07] <coachJ> can someone suggest a program to open corel files?
[01:07] <Hawkwind> dan: Regardless, it needs to be taken to the appropriate channel
[01:07] <dan> so still, i have no idea why my sound works with some programs and not with others
[01:07] <dan> i told him
[01:08] <vervirt> bin zu dumm fr linux glaubsch
[01:08] <dan> versuche #ubuntu-de
[01:08] <vervirt> da bin ich.. aber muss mich regn. aber will ich net^^
[01:08] <vervirt> weill bei mir alles bels gro ist^^
[01:09] <dan> tut mir leid aber ich kann dir warscheinlich nicht helfen
[01:09] <dan> so does anyone have any suggestions on my sound problem
[01:10] <draik> !print < rr72
[01:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about print < rr72 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:10] <draik> !print
[01:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:10] <cpk2> !sound
[01:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:10] <draik> !print > rr72
[01:10] <dan> ok cool
[01:10] <dan> thanx
[01:11] <draik> rr72, let me know if that works for you, I had/have issues with connectivity
[01:11] <dan> hmmm
[01:11] <jpiccolo> anyone have 5.1 sound?
[01:11] <dan> well my sound works just not with amorak
[01:12] <draik> jpiccolo, I have 5.1 and everything works fine
[01:12] <jpiccolo> draik, is it with the nforce chipset?
[01:12] <draik> nope
[01:12] <draik> I have onboard 5.1 audio support
[01:13] <draik> my motherboard is the Abit VT7
[01:13] <acojlo> How can I resolve : couldn't open fontconfigs chosen font with Xft!!! from .xsession-errors ?
[01:13] <draik> I built this desktop, and I updated the BIOS and all, but don't recall ever having an issue/upgrade with the audio
[01:14] <patrick_> Heh guys, I need help setting up VNC4server on Kubuntu 6.06 - everything installed but I get a grey screen and a black X upon vncviewer localhost:1 - Help pleeeease!
[01:14] <rr72> draik~ how do i so it, i have cps but my windows machine can't pirnt to it
[01:14] <draik> This was back in 2003/2004
[01:15] <draik> rr72, did you go to the last link... print sharing with windows
[01:15] <draik> !print > rr72
[01:15] <rr72> the printer works in kubuntu just can't connect in windows
[01:15] <draik> did you follow the instructions?
[01:15] <rr72> it says network printing from xp i want to 2k
[01:15] <draik> same diff
[01:15] <rr72> i don't want to print to windows i want to print to kubuntu from windows
[01:16] <draik> where is the printer connected?
[01:16] <scabootssca> how do i mount my linux drive?
[01:16] <rr72> kubuntu
[01:16] <draik> so lemme see if I got this right....
[01:17] <draik> Printer--------Kubuntu----------------------router------------------------------win2k
[01:17] <draik> right?
[01:17] <rr72> no
[01:17] <rr72> lots more switches and computers in there
[01:17] <rr72> kubuntu goes to a switch that win2k connects to the switch as well
[01:18] <rr72> and the switch connects to a router
[01:18] <rr72> ill try the site
[01:18] <rr72> ty tho
[01:18] <draik> np
[01:18] <draik> what site?
[01:18] <draik> the one I sent you?
[01:18] <rr72> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[01:18] <draik> ok
[01:19] <draik> Anyone here done that?
[01:19] <ubuntu> should the filetype for the swap file be linux-swap?
[01:21] <Dasnipa`> ubotu, yes
[01:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about yes - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:21] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu yes
[01:21] <rr72> lol
[01:22] <Dasnipa`> erm mattttttt yes
[01:22] <rr72> in cupsd.conf i can use wildcards right?
[01:23] <mattttttt> just checking :)
[01:24] <mattttttt> when i hit continue 8 windows pop up saying "a new medium has been detected"
[01:24] <mattttttt> now what? >_<
[01:25] <scabootssca> where do i edit the lilo configuration?
[01:27] <mattttttt> "
[01:27] <mattttttt> Could not mount device.
[01:27] <mattttttt> The reported error was:
[01:27] <mattttttt> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:27] <mattttttt> "
[01:27] <scabootssca> where do i edit the lilo configuration?
[01:27] <mattttttt> hmm
[01:27] <mattttttt> that's what happens when i do "open in new window" for one of the boxes
[01:32] <Terrance> im comparing kubuntu to freespire.  can anyone outline some practical pros and cons to help me compare.
[01:34] <Terrance> !?
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:34] <mattttttt> "the test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSl1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors"
[01:34] <mattttttt> eek.
[01:35] <patrick_> Heh guys, I need help setting up VNC4server on Kubuntu 6.06 - everything installed but I get a grey screen and a black X upon vncviewer localhost:1 - Help pleeeease!
[01:36] <driz_> hey guys how do i remove a program i installed usign wine I need disk space and i have a couple thing that are huge and they are in Wine...PLease help?
[01:37] <josh__> hi
[01:37] <josh__> i have 64 bit kubuntu
[01:38] <josh__> 6.06
[01:38] <josh__> and i can't hear any bass
[01:38] <Riddell> Terrance: kubuntu will send you CDs free of charge, linspire will try and trap you into giving them money with CnR, otherwise try them both and decide for yourself
[01:38] <josh__> the song quality is good and all but there just is no bass
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> driz_: Find out where the wine part is (maybe in .wine) and delete it
[01:38] <Terrance> freespire is 100% free though.  has apt get too.
[01:38] <coachJ> can someone tell me how to leunch open draw, it is installed according ti adept but is not on the menu?
[01:38] <driz_> ok
[01:39] <vervirt> Wie war der deutsche kubuntu chan noimma
[01:39] <Riddell> coachJ: launch any other part of open office and make a New drawing document
[01:40] <vervirt> hab schon
[01:40] <josh__> can anyone help me?
[01:40] <coachJ> checking
[01:40] <Terrance> id like 2 learn key differences practically speaking, between freespire and kubuntu.
[01:40] <timi> i spent all this time compilin kbootsplash and it doesnt work tear*
[01:40] <josh__> what other drivers could i use? alsa might be the problem
[01:41] <coachJ> Riddell: thks boy do I feel stupid!
[01:43] <Riddell> Terrance: they're both KDE based operating systems derived from Debian, they're both very similar
[01:43] <Terrance> pro's of freespire is see as easier dvd/mp3 out of the box.  a possibly con is auto update of the OS.  others!?
[01:44] <Riddell> Terrance: but kubuntu has dragons on it's homepage, which makes it cool.  and linspire is going bust.  take your pick
[01:44] <Terrance> linspire is going bust for sure?
[01:45] <Terrance> anyway freespire is a free version
[01:45] <Riddell> supported by people who pay for Click and Run
[01:46] <josh__> click and run pwns
[01:46] <josh__> at least it works most of the time...
[01:46] <driz_> h3sp4wn: I can't find it! I tried to open it but it wouldn't open
[01:46] <josh__> does anyone have any clue why i have no bass?
[01:49] <josh__> omg
[01:49] <josh__> adept won't let me change anything
[01:49] <Terrance> can anyone give me any key pros of kubuntu over freespire?
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> driz_: I dont know where it would be put (dont use wine)
[01:50] <driz_> I want to install Maplestory and i want to remove those other things in WINE so I would be able to play it
[01:51] <cpk2> whats freespire?
[01:51] <driz_> !freespire
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about freespire - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:52] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Free version of LinSpire
[01:52] <josh__> guys it says adept is already running
[01:52] <josh__> this doesn't make sence
[01:52] <josh__> i just booted
[01:52] <josh__> so now i can't install packages
[01:52] <Hawkwind> So kill Adept
[01:52] <Terrance> google it spk2
[01:52] <josh__> how do i do that
[01:53] <ironfroggy> where can i look for causes for my wifi card to not be able to receive dhcp leases? the router is assigning an IP when i requested, but the laptop seems to not be aware of it and times out.
[01:53] <josh__> i tried sudo killall adept but that doesnt do anything either
[01:53] <ironfroggy> josh__: do you see adept listed in a ps -A?
[01:54] <josh__> yeah
[01:54] <rr72> why can't my printer print anymore?
[01:54] <ironfroggy> do you have it running in another session?
[01:54] <rr72> it accepts jobs but the compputer can't access it
[01:54] <ironfroggy> or on another desktop?
[01:54] <josh__> hmm
[01:54] <josh__> well i just booted
[01:55] <rr72> "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied"
[01:55] <josh__> unless the root account is using it or something
[01:55] <ironfroggy> maybe the first time you tried to open it, you lost it in a different desktop.
[01:55] <josh__> nope, nothing else is running on the desktops
[01:55] <ironfroggy> any other virutal terminals being used?
[01:55] <josh__> is there any way to kill all running versions?
[01:55] <_greg> rr72, are you a member of the printer group?
[01:56] <driz_> YES!!! i got it it was pretty easy oh well
[01:56] <rr72> why wouldnt i be if i were able to print before?
[01:56] <thilak> is there a snagit alternartive for kubuntu
[01:56] <thilak> I just switched over to kubuntu full time
[01:56] <ironfroggy> josh__: you can kill -9 it as a last resort.
[01:56] <_greg> yeah, good question.
[01:56] <josh__> how do i do that
[01:56] <josh__> just type in kill -9?
[01:57] <ironfroggy> with the pid, yeah
[01:57] <josh__> pid?
[01:57] <rr72> process id
[01:57] <josh__> ok so whats the command i need to type in lol
[01:57] <josh__> pd kill -9?
[01:57] <scabootssca> anyone here have lilo installed?
[01:58] <cpk2> josh__: kill -9 pidhere
[01:58] <josh__> bash: kill: pidhere: arguments must be process or job IDs
[01:58] <josh__> got that error
[01:58] <rr72> how do i get info on my/a user to see what groups they belong too?
[01:58] <rr72> *to
[01:59] <ironfroggy> josh__: you actually typed "pidhere"? he meant "put the pid of the process you want to kill right here" not the actual word "pidhere"...
[01:59] <_greg> rr72, i used the user manager gui
[01:59] <josh__> i'm stupid guys
[01:59] <josh__> lol
[01:59] <josh__> i got linux 3 days ago
[01:59] <cpk2> josh__: lol when i said pidhere i meant to use the pid of adept... when you do ps aux on the far left just to the right of the user name there is a "pid"
[01:59] <josh__> i am an absolute n00b
[01:59] <rr72> _greg~ how do i do text based
[02:00] <_greg> rr72, don't know. is kde broken?
[02:01] <rr72> it was but i fixed it but im lazy to go to other comptuer so i ssh in
[02:01] <_greg> you can start an x session with ssh
[02:01] <josh__> k i want to close adept, what is the command i need, i can't assume what to add
[02:01] <rr72> that just causes problems
[02:01] <josh__> kill -9 adept?
[02:02] <rr72> i get ICAuthority errors
[02:02] <osiris> for java in firefox, do i have to do it by hand in kubuntu, or is there a package
[02:02] <_greg> yeah you may have a point
[02:02] <rr72> and KUser is broked
[02:02] <cpk2> josh__: you will probably have to do it as sudo
[02:02] <rr72> so i need to do in text since kuser doesnt start anything
[02:03] <josh__> so sudo kill -9 adept?
[02:03] <rr72> w/o ?
[02:04] <rr72> _greg~ there is no printer group on my system anyways
[02:04] <rr72> dinner bbiab
[02:05] <josh__> can i see the process???
[02:05] <shrewdy> does anyone know how to downgrade GCC (4.0 >> 3.x)
[02:05] <shrewdy> ??
[02:05] <josh__> where is the process manager in this
[02:06] <Gravygoat> josh__ if you want to kill a process by name, you can do it like this: "sudo killall adept"
[02:06] <scabootssca> how do i use the chroot command i want to change my root from the current harddrive to a mounted one] 
[02:06] <Agios> you can uninstall gcc then install whatever version you want so long as it's in the sources
[02:06] <cpk2> josh__: "ps aux" is like process manager so is "top"
[02:07] <Agios> killing adept will leave the lock files in place
[02:07] <cpk2> i think ksysguard is a gui process manager
[02:07] <Agios> chroot /some/directory
[02:08] <Hikaru79> What is the "correct" way to install libxine-extracodecs? Is it in some repo (I've already checked multiverse), or should I grab the .deb manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs and install it from there?
[02:08] <cpk2> Hikaru79: the plf repo might have it?
[02:08] <Agios> gcc 3.3 is the lowest version I see in my sources
[02:08] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:09] <abattoir> Hikaru79: it is in multiverse, see if you have enabled it properly
[02:09] <josh__> OMFG!!!!!
[02:09] <josh__> i can't see anything this is so retarded
[02:09] <cpk2> josh__: ??
[02:10] <crimsun> if he can't see it, asking won't help ;-)
[02:10] <josh__> i can't see that adept is running
[02:10] <josh__> i don't know why it would be running at startup
[02:10] <josh__> what would use adept at startup?
[02:10] <cpk2> josh__: did you do ps aux and look for it in the list?
[02:10] <crimsun> the notifier in the notification area in the bottom right, why?
[02:10] <josh__> yes
[02:10] <abattoir> josh__: You probably have 'session mangamement' on, so you must have not closed it the last time you logged out, and hence it'd have been started up.
[02:11] <Hikaru79> abattoir: are you sure?
[02:11] <josh__> how do i kill session management
[02:11] <abattoir> Hikaru79: yes, see if you Updated the packages list too
[02:11] <Hikaru79> I know packages.ubuntu.com says it is, but I've enabled multiverse, and of course apt-get update'd, but nothing =/
[02:11] <abattoir> josh__: Kcontrol->KDE Components->Session mgmt.
[02:12] <abattoir> Hikaru79: make sure you have enabled it in the 'dapper' distribution and not 'dapper-backports'
[02:12] <josh__> sigh
[02:12] <josh__> no kde components in the kcontrol
[02:12] <Hikaru79> Ah, you are indeed correct, abattoir! Thank you very much =)
[02:12] <draik> Anyone here know how to rip a DVD?
[02:12] <abattoir> Hikaru79: enabling it in dapper-backports is not wrong, but make sure you have it in dapper too
[02:12] <Hikaru79> I can't believe I overlooked that =x
[02:12] <abattoir> Hikaru79:  :)
[02:13] <holoton1> I installed ubuntu 6.06 clean from a disc, and then used apt-get to get kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <holoton1> on multiple machines
[02:13] <josh__> hmmmm
[02:13] <josh__> it says another packaging system is running
[02:13] <holoton1> for some reason, all of the browse file dialogue boxes are still gnome
[02:14] <holoton1> unless it's a KDE app, like digikam,
[02:14] <holoton1> is this normal?
[02:14] <timi> hey how do i get this to stop remembeir sessions
[02:14] <cpk2> holoton1: do you still want gnome?
[02:14] <holoton1> not really, no
[02:14] <abattoir> holoton1: yes, if you are using GTK programs, like firefox, its common to see those boxes
[02:14] <timi> i just want it to close all sessions when im done, or at least not reopen thme up
[02:14] <holoton1> firefox is gtk?
[02:14] <cpk2> holoton1: having gnome and kde together can cause some wierd things, might be better off purging gnome heh
[02:14] <abattoir> timi: Kcontrol->KDE Components->Session mgmt.
[02:15] <timi> k
[02:15] <josh__> ok. it asys that another packaging system is running and its prolly apt-get or agtitude
[02:15] <cpk2> josh__: apt-get is run from the terminal and i highly doubt it is still going
[02:16] <josh__> yeah
[02:16] <scabootssca> i need help installing lilo
[02:16] <scabootssca> abnyone
[02:16] <cpk2> dunno if aptitude has a gui i only use it for search but you can check using ps aux
[02:16] <josh__> grrrr linux
[02:16] <scabootssca> please
[02:17] <josh__> i use grub so i dont know what the hell lilo is
[02:17] <scabootssca> i cant get grub to work i got lilo to before though
[02:18] <cpk2> josh__: close the xmanager and then see if you can use apt-get
[02:18] <josh__> xmanager?
[02:18] <cpk2> xserver
[02:18] <josh__> i have nothing like that running
[02:19] <josh__> oooh
[02:19] <josh__> i've actually never used apt get
[02:19] <josh__> i use adept...
[02:19] <cpk2> josh__: you know how to shut down xserver?
[02:20] <josh__> telinit 3 or something
[02:20] <josh__> or just log out and then login to console mode
[02:20] <cpk2> josh__: its pretty easy "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" "sudo apt-get install packageiwanthere"
[02:20] <cpk2> josh__: just do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop
[02:20] <crimsun> josh__: runlevels 2-5 are identical by default
[02:21] <Terrance> which of the following are not default in kubutnu or easy and quick to install:  dvd, mp3, flash, java
[02:22] <abattoir> all of them :P
[02:22] <cpk2> pretty sure those are all quick and easy
[02:22] <abattoir> !easyubuntu
[02:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:22] <abattoir> Terrance: ^^^^
[02:22] <dan> ok so i uninstalled amarok because i was having problems, but now i cant install it
[02:22] <cpk2> amarok is a movieplayer?
[02:22] <dan> audio
[02:23] <cpk2> could always try mplayer for movies and xmms for audio
[02:23] <abattoir> cpk2: nah, its the best music player out there... :)
[02:23] <abattoir> dan: what is the problem?
[02:23] <dan> anyways synaptic says that some of the libs are uninstallable
[02:23] <cpk2> hmm xmms sure seems nice to me...
[02:23] <rr72> who still uses parellel to hook up a printer?
[02:23] <cpk2> !amarok
[02:23] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[02:24] <abattoir> dan: can you try 'sudo apt-get install amarok' in the command line and pastebin the output?
[02:24] <OOD> cpk2: if you haven'tr tried amarok yet, then you're missing an important part of linux :P
[02:24] <abattoir> !pastebin
[02:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:24] <root> ok
[02:24] <root> i'm in root now
[02:24] <dan> ubotu: have you tried installing that package
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about have you tried installing that package - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:24] <abattoir> dan: ubotu is a computer program :)
[02:24] <root> i'm in root and now i can use adept
[02:24] <dan> lol
[02:24] <OOD> lol
[02:24] <dan> oops
[02:24] <root> this is josh__ btw
[02:24] <abattoir> root: change your nick, so people know who you are
[02:24] <Terrance> wot about automatix, that easier, better than easyubuntu?
[02:24] <abattoir> aah ok
[02:24] <dan> ok hold on
[02:25] <cpk2> josh__: why did you log into kde as root?
[02:25] <josh__> cuz i updated adept and then i had to be in root
[02:25] <abattoir> Terrance: i've used neither, but people say easyubuntu is more user-friendly, especially for new users...
[02:25] <josh__> then i typed in startx
[02:25] <cpk2> i said shutdown xserver and then try using apt-get
[02:25] <josh__> cuz i was in console
[02:25] <rr72> who uses a parallel printer still?
[02:25] <patrick_> abattoir: french?
[02:25] <abattoir> patrick_: the nick, yes, me, no :)
[02:25] <cpk2> josh__: you really shouldnt be logged in doing normal things as root
[02:25] <josh__> ya i need to do sudo when i use apt-get
[02:26] <josh__> yeh
[02:26] <cpk2> yeah you dont need to log in as root, just do sudo and supply the password
[02:26] <josh__> how about installing packages though
[02:26] <driz_> !wine
[02:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:26] <cpk2> lets say you want to install a package named coolprogram
[02:26] <cpk2> you do sudo apt-get install coolprogram
[02:27] <dan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18896
[02:27] <rr72> who has a parellle printer?
[02:27] <cpk2> josh__: you should probably log out of root btw
[02:27] <josh__> yah
[02:27] <josh__> i'll do that now
[02:27] <cpk2> root is for when you do things that need it not for everyday things
[02:27] <dan> here you go abattoir
[02:28] <abattoir> dan: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:28] <abattoir> dan: see if any packages are being removed...
[02:28] <cpk2> is it just me or does josh_ seem like he is a little afraid of the command line?
[02:28] <rr72> who still uses parellel printer? i need some help
[02:29] <dan> same thing
[02:29] <abattoir> dan: 'sudo apt-get install ruby' ?
[02:29] <abattoir> dan: could you try that?
[02:29] <dan> lol
[02:30] <dan> sure but i'm sure thats not gonna work
[02:30] <abattoir> dan: well, i want to find why ruby is broken...
[02:30] <josh__> i'm back
[02:30] <abattoir> dan: but afaik, ruby is not a mandatory dep for amarok
[02:30] <timi> how do you uninstall a non kde program you installed
[02:30] <timi> i went to add remove programs but it wasnt there
[02:30] <dan> ruby is not available
[02:30] <abattoir> dan: also which version of amarok are you trying to install?
[02:30] <abattoir> !info ruby
[02:30] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:30] <dan> the newest one
[02:30] <patrick_> timi - apt-get remove?
[02:31] <josh__> i think i know what happened
[02:31] <_greg> rr72, i was away for awhile. have you tried cancel?
[02:31] <abattoir> dan: 1.4.1, you added the kubuntu.org repository?
[02:31] <josh__> i was trying to install the java package
[02:31] <dan> yes
[02:31] <rr72> cancel for what?
[02:31] <josh__> and it stopped in the middle of the installation
[02:31] <abattoir> dan: did you do a 'sudo apt-get update'?
[02:31] <josh__> so i had to close adept
[02:31] <rr72> _greg~ i don't even know what we were talking abuot
[02:31] <dan> no
[02:31] <dan> i'll try that
[02:32] <cpk2> josh__: have you finished the java installation yet then?
[02:32] <josh__> no
[02:32] <josh__> i coudn't
[02:32] <josh__> it just stops.
[02:32] <cpk2> dont use adept to do it
[02:32] <_greg> the lp man page gives the command "cancel" to cancel any print jobs.
[02:32] <cpk2> open a terminal and do sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <dan> no updates
[02:32] <abattoir> dan: dapper right?
[02:32] <dan> yes
[02:33] <dan> i know
[02:33] <dan> its weird huh
[02:33] <rr72> _greg~ i can cancel them all from my windows machine
[02:33] <cpk2> dan: what do you mean no updates? update doesnt actually install anything
[02:33] <abattoir> dan: indeed :), ruby is main, wonder why you get that erro
[02:33] <abattoir> *error
[02:33] <rr72> _greg~ says i don't have access to the port the printer is connected too
[02:34] <dan> well i went into synaptic to verify any updates
[02:34] <dan> and also adept
[02:34] <dan> and nothing
[02:34] <josh__> ok
[02:34] <josh__> i think its done
[02:34] <dan> let me try installing ruby from synaptic
[02:34] <cpk2> josh__: did it let you finish the java installation when you did that?
[02:34] <josh__> Unpacking replacement sun-java5-jre ...
[02:34] <josh__> Setting up sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-06-1) ...
[02:34] <josh__> Setting up ia32-sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-06-1) ...
[02:34] <abattoir> dan: i'd like to see the output of 'sudo apt-get install ruby libgpod0 libifp4' and see your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:34] <cpk2> !java
[02:34] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:34] <josh__> is it done now?
[02:35] <abattoir> dan: you could put both on pastebin, separately
[02:35] <cpk2> josh__: what does java --version tell you?
[02:35] <josh__> could not create
[02:35] <josh__> ya it f'd itself again
[02:35] <dan> ok hold on
[02:35] <josh__> omg
[02:35] <josh__> wait a sec
[02:35] <josh__> did i tell you that i'm on the 64 bit version of kubuntu?
[02:36] <cpk2> josh__: no
[02:36] <josh__> omg i'm so sorry lol
[02:36] <abattoir> dan: you also have universe and mulitverse enabled right?
[02:36] <josh__> is that the problem?
[02:36] <rr72> josh__~ that mightve helped a while ago
[02:36] <dan> no
[02:36] <cpk2> josh__: read that link for java
[02:36] <josh__> sry
[02:36] <dan> i thought it wasnt safe
[02:36] <cpk2> josh__: that link will explain how to install java for 64bit
[02:36] <abattoir> dan: enabling universe/multiverse is not safe?
[02:37] <rr72> GIGANTOR~ do u have a perallel printer?
[02:37] <josh__> ah here we go
[02:37] <josh__> i'm downloading it
[02:37] <GIGANTOR> lol
[02:37] <dan> i thought some of the programs arent safe to install from there
[02:37] <GIGANTOR> a parallel printer? umm
[02:37] <GIGANTOR> i have no printer at all  ;P
[02:37] <rr72> oh
[02:37] <abattoir> dan: nope, nothing like that.... unofficially atleast
[02:37] <dan> should i try that?
[02:37] <timi> how come the defaults streams in amarok have no sund
[02:37] <abattoir> dan: yes, please do
[02:37] <dan> hey
[02:37] <abattoir> dan: because libifp4 is in universe
[02:37] <dan> i had the same problem as timi
[02:38] <GIGANTOR> my question is easier than these peoples
[02:38] <dan> thats why i uninstalled in the first place
[02:38] <GIGANTOR> ;D
[02:38] <abattoir> dan: which one is that? i've seen timi here for 2 days w/ various probs :P
[02:38] <dan> lol
[02:38] <timi> lol
[02:38] <dan> no sound in amarok
[02:38] <timi> o
[02:38] <cpk2> abattoir: i think thats the problem he had, various troubles with linux
[02:38] <cpk2> sounds like a problem to me hehe
[02:39] <abattoir> cpk2: well, lot of people are not used to it, so its perfectly normal :)
[02:39] <GIGANTOR> *coughbetweencomputerandchaircough*
[02:39] <abattoir> *a lot
[02:39] <Terrance> ok, if easyubuntu is easy, a new kubuntu user gained here
[02:39] <Terrance> thanks for the help
[02:39] <abattoir> Terrance: :)
[02:39] <Terrance> i just hope the overly blue kubuntu icons go....yuk, no colour, just bluuuue
[02:39] <dan> ok well i'll add universe and multiverse and try it that way
[02:39] <abattoir> dan: if enabling multiversse and universe dont work, paste the stuff i asked you to, and ping me w/ the links
[02:40] <rr72> i need help getting my printer to work, i can't access the port its on
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> Terrance, well in Ubuntu you have brown, so take your pick  ;P
[02:40] <josh__> OMFG
[02:40] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: isnt it orange now?
[02:40] <Terrance> there shudnt be a colour lol
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> =x  may be
[02:40] <cpk2> Terrance: i think there are themes you can download from the repos
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> i don't swing that way
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[02:40] <dan> ok
[02:40] <Terrance> the icons on the desktop shud be as per other icons in the OS, various easy to see, intuitive icons with colour, helping to signify them
[02:40] <abattoir> Terrance: this is KDE, change whatever you want, however you want :)
[02:40] <Terrance> i know
[02:41] <abattoir> Terrance: you get icons on the desktop? by default?
[02:41] <cpk2> josh__: you seem to get worked up pretty easily =P
[02:41] <Terrance> but i think kubuntu and ubuntu shud steer off coloured icons like that by default.  its much less intuitive and clear.
[02:41] <josh__> i know
[02:41] <GIGANTOR> Ubuntu is still in the 70's, live in the NOW my man
[02:41] <josh__> i have messed up linux 4 times
[02:41] <cpk2> abattoir: my hdd shows up on the desktop by default
[02:41] <timi> so any ideas as to why i dont have sound coming thought an amarok stream
[02:42] <timi> its one of those streams that are there by defualt
[02:42] <josh__> this is the 4th version of linux i've tried
[02:42] <GIGANTOR> timi- does any sound work?
[02:42] <abattoir> cpk2: hmmm... i remember getting an icon-less desktop when i installed it recently somewhere...
[02:42] <timi> gigator yes
[02:42] <cpk2> abattoir: maybe its because my hdd is external?
[02:42] <abattoir> cpk2: i guess it is unmounted and you have that option enabled :)
[02:42] <abattoir> cpk2: yes, :)
[02:42] <cpk2> a 400 gig hdd is a bit expensive if you get it for a laptop
[02:42] <patrick_> Anyone to assist me with setting up a VNCserver? I get a grey screen...
[02:43] <cpk2> much better to get an internal one and buy a 20 dollar case
[02:43] <abattoir> cpk2: i actually mean icons like Home, Documents, Network etc.... not device icons... which are actually handy
[02:43] <Terrance> whos cud change/modify the blue/brown coloring of desktop icons to be less colour specific, more intuitive?
[02:43] <timi> gigantor yes
[02:43] <Agios> When I installed I had no icons on the desktop.
[02:43] <GIGANTOR> timi- does anything else in amarok (mp3) play correctly?
[02:43] <Terrance> or who/where shud i feedback this
[02:43] <timi> i dont  think ive downloaded the mp3 packages
[02:43] <cpk2> abattoir: ah, nope none of those, just my hdd =)
[02:43] <josh__> ok there is no release of java
[02:43] <abattoir> Terrance: try another icon theme from kde-look.org
[02:43] <josh__> in 64 bit
[02:43] <Terrance> yer i will
[02:43] <GIGANTOR> doh..  try and play something else first in amarok before tackling the stream bit
[02:43] <cpk2> josh__: you go to the sun website?
[02:44] <abattoir> Terrance: or i'd suggest crystal clear, which is also in the repos
[02:44] <rr72> i need help with my parrelela printer
[02:44] <GIGANTOR> chances are amarok needs to talk to your soundcard correctly, which is slightly different
[02:44] <abattoir> josh__: iirc, there is
[02:44] <Agios> probably mixer settings
[02:44] <patrick_> Ok, about the icons on the desktop : System : Desktop : @comportement@ * french, i know... Then, unselect @show icon on desktop.
[02:44] <abattoir> josh__: there is not firefox/mozilla plugin though
[02:44] <GIGANTOR> timi-  well, not different, but...  helps to know to troubleshoot the prob
[02:44] <Terrance> but im on about a more suitable generic desktop icons as default, like freespire.
[02:44] <cpk2> josh__: you obviously didnt read that link closely, let me copy paste the part you missed  It is also available for i386 and AMD64, but use on such installations is not discussed here.
[02:45] <timi> ok how does it talk to my soundcard...
[02:45] <josh__> * There is no browser plugin for AMD64. You will need to install a 32bit version of Firefox. See below.
[02:45] <cpk2> josh__: looks like you need to go get the source from sun
[02:45] <josh__> k
[02:45] <cpk2> josh__: yes, but you are still trying to install sun java
[02:45] <josh__> i think i'm just gona install 32 bit linux lmao
[02:45] <GIGANTOR> timi- do you know what sound driver you use?
[02:45] <Terrance> and can the date/time at least move back to the quick and easy bottom right, as expected/easier!?
[02:45] <josh__> well i think thats what messed up adept
[02:45] <josh__> and i hate commands
[02:45] <josh__> so i think i'll just get that
[02:46] <timi> alsa
[02:46] <GIGANTOR> timi-  brb, lemme look at amarok for a sec
[02:46] <josh__> ok peace out everyoen
[02:46] <timi> peace
[02:46] <cpk2> josh__: what happened when you tried getting sun java with adept is that it required you to consent to a license and adept didnt know what to do
[02:46] <dan> ok it worked
[02:46] <josh__> it went to install then stopped and i had to exit adept
[02:46] <rr72> who uses a parallel printer still?
[02:46] <dan> thanx abattoir
[02:46] <Terrance> cheers and nite all.  date and time bottom right, and no blue icons....please....nite
[02:46] <josh__> and u click details
[02:47] <dan> but now i have the same problem again
[02:47] <josh__> then u see the thing and u hit enter and it goes through a thinger
[02:47] <GIGANTOR> timi- go to amarok, right click and goto configure amarok
[02:47] <cpk2> josh__: thats because you had to accept the license, running dpkg-reconfigure sun-java5-bin should fix it
[02:47] <GIGANTOR> timi-  then go to engine
[02:47] <cpk2> i think
[02:47] <GIGANTOR> timi- and see what your output plugin is set for
[02:47] <dan> mine is alsa
[02:48] <dan> i have the same problem gigantor
[02:48] <timi> gigantor it says xine
[02:48] <GIGANTOR> dan-  in system settings under sound does it show that you're using the ALSA driver?
[02:48] <azaghal> Ok, I know that this is probably extremly boring questio to ask, but I need someone to help me set up the bloody winmodem (SmartLink one). A step by step would be appriciated. The most imporatnt part to me is what additional packages I need for this thing. I believe the rest is well enough covered in a wiki page. The install is a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 (PURE, no additional packages:). Anyone up...
[02:48] <azaghal> ...to the task?
[02:48] <GIGANTOR> timi-  try it with alsa and restart the program
[02:48] <josh__> dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server
[02:48] <josh__> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde
[02:48] <josh__> debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
[02:48] <josh__> debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
[02:48] <josh__> OH MY GOD!
[02:49] <leigh> why the hell dont i see a kdevelop package in kubuntu... ?
[02:49] <josh__> peanut linux looks good i should try that
[02:49] <dan> yes
[02:49] <GIGANTOR> dan, do you get any sound at all out of anything
[02:49] <timi> hrmm no sound still
[02:49] <josh__> alright later guys
[02:49] <dan> i've tried all the different drivers
[02:50] <dan> no
[02:50] <dan> lol
[02:50] <cpk2> josh__: you do this    sudo apt-get install libqt-perl   sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf   ?
[02:50] <Agios> josh, did you do that from $ sudo or #?
[02:50] <GIGANTOR> dan- do you use a digital output on your soundcard?
[02:50] <dan> i've tried several different configs
[02:50] <dan> yes
[02:50] <GIGANTOR> timi-  arrrgh, that sucks..
[02:50] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i'm out of ideas then, for i am a wee little nooblet myself
[02:51] <dan> i'm having the same problem it just sucks
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> dan-  if you're not getting any sound thats different
[02:51] <dan> does yours work gigantor?
[02:51] <dan> ok hold on
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> dan-  do you know how to open kmix?
[02:51] <rr72> anyone stll using parallel printers?
[02:51] <abattoir> dan: amarok installed?
[02:51] <dan> lol
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> lol..
[02:51] <dan> oh yeah thank you very much
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> just a question ;P
[02:51] <cpk2> rr72: i think parallel printers were phased out a long time ago
[02:51] <dan> but now my streams dont work
[02:51] <Agios> leigh: I have kdevelop3 in my sources.
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> well goto the switches tab
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> and enable digital output
[02:51] <rr72> cpk2~ then why does linux still support them?
[02:52] <abattoir> dan: only streams... or nothing works?
[02:52] <azaghal> Ok, I know that this is probably extremly boring questio to ask, but I need someone to help me set up the bloody winmodem (SmartLink one). A step by step would be appriciated. The most imporatnt part to me is what additional packages I need for this thing. I believe the rest is well enough covered in a wiki page. The install is a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 (PURE, no additional packages:). Anyone up...
[02:52] <azaghal> ...to the task?
[02:52] <abattoir> dan: also if they are mp3 streams, do normal local mp3s work?
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> dan-  just turn on an mp3 and mash buttons in the switches part, you're bound to find something that works.  (MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT ON MUUUUTE)
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[02:52] <cpk2> rr72: i meant production wise, not very many people probably manufacture them any more, therefor almost no one will have one
[02:52] <rr72> make sure ur speakers are plugged in too
[02:52] <dan> well as funny as it sounds i dont have any mp3's
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> ..
[02:52] <dan> well none that i know of
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> sad bastard.
[02:52] <rr72> oi
[02:53] <dan> let me put a cd in hold on
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> dan- download frostwire  ;)
[02:53] <dan> my sound works fine with other programs
[02:53] <cpk2> make sure the sound isnt being tied up by something else
[02:53] <rr72> but a cd is different
[02:53] <cpk2> can you ahve sound going from 2 programs at once?
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> dan-  oh, i thought you said none of it worked
[02:53] <dan> even system sounds
[02:53] <dan> lol
[02:53] <dan> oh sorry
[02:53] <rr72> GIGANTOR~ can u tell me what this means?
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> dan-  try xmms
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> rr72-  i am a noob man, don't put too much hope in me
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> lol
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> just helping with things i've had to deal with
[02:54] <rr72> "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied"
[02:54] <dan> xmms?
[02:54] <timi> meh dvd sound worked
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> rr72-  what is this device?
[02:54] <dan> is that a program
[02:54] <timi> i just played starwars
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> timi-  ;P
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i say go get some codecs for that mammy
[02:55] <abattoir> timi: amarok plays nothing? or is it only mp3s ?
[02:55] <dan> nevermind
[02:55] <dan> i have the same problem as timi
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> dan-  yes
[02:55] <dan> just doesnt play streams
[02:55] <leigh> Agios: figured it out ;)
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> dan-  it's kinda like winamp a little
[02:55] <abattoir> dan: which ones?????
[02:55] <dan> i just looked it up
[02:56] <cpk2> GIGANTOR: i am pretty sure xmms is a winamp clone
[02:56] <cpk2> since it looks and behaves like winamp
[02:56] <GIGANTOR> hell, let me see if *I* can play streams  ;P
[02:56] <GIGANTOR> never have tried
[02:56] <GIGANTOR> timi-  you there?
[02:56] <dan> all of them
[02:57] <dan> some i dont have the right plugin for and some that do come up i cant hear
[02:57] <GIGANTOR> timi-  you said the output said XINE, right?  were you talking about the picture above the output plugin button?  cos that don't mean jack
[02:57] <timi> yes
[02:57] <timi> yeah the picture said xine
[02:57] <timi> then under it said autodetect
[02:57] <GIGANTOR> timi-  click in that box and put on ALSA
[02:57] <timi> i changed that to alsa
[02:58] <GIGANTOR> oh ok
[02:58] <timi> do i need to restart x maybe
[02:58] <GIGANTOR> you shouldn't have to, but i dunno
[02:59] <azaghal> Ok, I know that this is probably extremly boring questio to ask, but I need someone to help me set up the bloody winmodem (SmartLink one). A step by step would be appriciated. The most imporatnt part to me is what additional packages I need for this thing. I believe the rest is well enough covered in a wiki page. The install is a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 (PURE, no additional packages:). Anyone up...
[02:59] <azaghal> ...to the task? Please? Pretty please? :)
[02:59] <dan> well gigantor i dont know anymore
[02:59] <dan> did yours work?
[02:59] <GIGANTOR> i'm looking for the streaming bit
[03:00] <rr72> shoutcast.com
[03:00] <rr72> who can help me with "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied" ?
[03:01] <thompa> !flash
[03:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:01] <thompa> whats the flash program i need?
[03:02] <GIGANTOR> flash-nonfree
[03:02] <GIGANTOR> search in adept
[03:02] <thompa> thanks
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> timi, dan...   dunno about the streaming bit
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> lol, i don't even see it
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> (doesn't use amarok)
[03:03] <thompa> found it, kid needs miniclip.com
[03:03] <dan> ok i accidently clicked on another driver, now i cant even open amarok
[03:03] <cpk2> you guys might want to try xmms
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> thompa=  word of advice
[03:03] <thompa> its hard to find
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> run flash in firefox in Wine
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> otherwise your a/v will not always sync up properly
[03:03] <thompa> always when i enable all the repos i get tons of errors, too lazy to sort out
[03:04] <Agios> apt-cache search flash
[03:04] <dan> ok i got it
[03:04] <dan> nevermind
[03:04] <GIGANTOR> lol, what was it?
[03:04] <thompa> but its the same on every install. if i enable all the repos so i can get crap like flash, i get constant errors of multiple repos
[03:04] <cpk2> thompa: probably bad entries in sources.list
[03:05] <cpk2> thompa: pastebin your sources.list
[03:05] <thompa> it still upgrades, i just dont feel like going through and finding which are the bad duplicates or whatever
[03:05] <GIGANTOR> dan-  help out timi  ;P
[03:05] <thompa> sure
[03:05] <dan> no i didnt get the sound to work man
[03:05] <GIGANTOR> ;\
[03:05] <dan> i have no idea whats going on
[03:05] <thompa> basically i enabled everything from new install
[03:06] <dan> i've tried several different combinations of drivers and sound outputs and still nothing
[03:06] <GIGANTOR> dan, check pm
[03:07] <thompa> it still says flash 6 required in firefox
[03:07] <dan> hey
[03:07] <GIGANTOR> dan-  nvm, found it
[03:07] <dan> on the left hand side where it says playlist
[03:07] <dan> oh
[03:07] <dan> lol
[03:07] <GIGANTOR> had the other view-setup of amarok going
[03:07] <GIGANTOR> didn't have that  ;P
[03:08] <dan> oh
[03:08] <dan> ic
[03:08] <dan> hey is wine a good program
[03:08] <dan> i'm installing it now
[03:08] <dan> never used it before
[03:08] <rr72> how do i add a user to a group from cmd line/shell?
[03:08] <thompa> i installed flash free, but firefox says i need flash for the damn kids site
[03:08] <GIGANTOR> it's excellent if you need to install and run Windows apps
[03:09] <dan> cool
[03:09] <Agios> thompa: make sure you have plf sources enabled then do: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, restart firefox, done.
[03:09] <dan> what about games?
[03:09] <cpk2> thompa: you got the wrong flash
[03:09] <thompa> again
[03:09] <GIGANTOR> some games run through it fine, some don't
[03:09] <cpk2> you dont need plf Agios
[03:09] <dan> i got flash from adobe.com
[03:09] <dan> it works great
[03:09] <GIGANTOR> theres a list on winedb.com someplace that shows you what works and what doesn't game wise
[03:09] <thompa> whats the name of the flash package then
[03:09] <dan> oh cool
[03:10] <thompa> ill try adobe
[03:10] <Agios> pehaps not then.
[03:10] <GIGANTOR> thompa-  i think it suggests the proper one for you
[03:10] <GIGANTOR> although the adept one should work fine
[03:10] <GIGANTOR> just disable some of those repos if you get errors
[03:10] <thompa> http://www.miniclip.com/games/club-penguin/en/
[03:11] <thompa> this one aint worken
[03:11] <thompa> it says it needs flash 6, it worked before on an earlier install
[03:11] <GIGANTOR> dan-  what stream are you trying?
[03:11] <Agios> that site works fine with flashplugin-nonfree
[03:12] <dan> any of them
[03:12] <dan> house trance
[03:12] <dan> any of the ones i've tried
[03:12] <dan> i'm slowly giving up on the problem to be honest
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> What problem?
[03:12] <rr72> shit i didnt somin and i can't sudo any more
[03:12] <dan> when using amarok, i cant hear any sound
[03:13] <rr72> *did
[03:13] <GIGANTOR> ewww, got one to work and it SUCKS the big one
[03:13] <dan> which one>?
[03:13] <rocketman768> dan: do you hear sound otherwise?
[03:13] <GIGANTOR> digitally imported - progressive   about 5th one down
[03:13] <rr72> crap
[03:13] <timi> so exactly wht is amaroK good for again
[03:13] <rr72> somone please save me
[03:13] <GIGANTOR> timi-  lol
[03:13] <rr72> i can't sudo anymore
[03:14] <OOD> timi: it's good for being the best audio player of course!
[03:14] <Agios> what message do you get?
[03:14] <GIGANTOR> dan-  ok, it's getting better now
[03:14] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[03:14] <timi> ok i put a cd in the drive
[03:14] <rr72> USER is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:14] <timi> it doesnt open with amarok
[03:14] <dan> lol
[03:14] <timi> it opens wiht Kaffeine
[03:14] <dan> yes i hear sound with anything else
[03:15] <GIGANTOR> ok, it sucks again
[03:15] <Agios> rr72, type exit
[03:15] <rr72> exit
[03:15] <rr72> what did that do?
[03:15] <GIGANTOR> ooooh, ambiet stuff
[03:15] <Agios> nothing in an irc channel, try it in your terminal window
[03:15] <rocketman768> dan: then there is a setting that deals with how sound is output in amarok...i don't remember exactly where it is. Play with it. My guess is that you will have to select ALSA.
[03:15] <cpk2> Agios: lol
[03:15] <timi> hey ood i want to rip a cd then put the files in amarok
[03:15] <rr72> why i will just lose the ssh connection
[03:15] <dan> i've tried it all already man
[03:15] <timi> how would i go about doing that
[03:15] <dan> lol
[03:16] <rr72> Agios~ now what?
[03:16] <rr72> my ssh window just closed
[03:16] <rocketman768> dan: screw amarok. use xmms. it always works for me
[03:16] <GIGANTOR> let me see if i put it on another sound output if it stops playing
[03:16] <abattoir> timi: try audiocd:/ in konqueror
[03:16] <Agios> rr72, you were ssh'd to another system and using sudo?
[03:16] <GIGANTOR> no sir, it does
[03:16] <GIGANTOR> doesn't*
[03:17] <rr72> yeah
[03:17] <rr72> i always do it
[03:17] <thompa> still cant get flash
[03:17] <dan> does it have streams?
[03:17] <dan> xmms
[03:17] <OOD> timi: you can use KAudioCreator
[03:17] <Agios> ok, ssh back in and try again
[03:17] <timi> ok then i organize the files in amarok?
[03:17] <thompa> !flash
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[03:18] <dan> alright i'm switching to xmms
[03:18] <rr72> i keep getting mail saying that i am trying to sudo and i can't
[03:18] <rr72> from the system
[03:18] <OOD> timi: amarok automatically organized all your files, you just provide the folder with all your music
[03:18] <timi> no encoder has been selected  it says
[03:18] <rr72> Agios~ still nothing, i think i deleted myself accedently by typing usermod
[03:18] <timi> when i open up kaudio creater
[03:18] <timi> i have a feeling i need to apt get something
[03:19] <OOD> timi: just go to setting and select an encoder
[03:19] <Agios> rr72: you can hurt yourself with usermod
[03:19] <thompa> i got flash plugin non free installed,
[03:19] <rr72> i need to undo what i just did
[03:19] <Agios> sounds like you are going to be booting rescue mode to fix that
[03:19] <timi> ok
[03:20] <timi> could i just open it in konqi like someone said and pull out the mp3 or the ogg vorbis
[03:20] <rr72> how do i fix it?
[03:20] <rr72> i know how to boot and all that just what do i need to cahnge?
[03:20] <Agios> rr72: what usermod command did you enter to break it?
[03:20] <OOD> timi: it might be possible, but i haven't tried
[03:20] <mattttttt> anyone know if photoshop works with linux?
[03:20] <timi> dont work
[03:20] <timi> ill go your way
[03:20] <rr72> sudo usermod -G lp USER
[03:20] <OOD> mattttttt: depends waht version
[03:20] <abattoir> mattttttt: 7 works very well under wine
[03:21] <GIGANTOR> i already hate amarok
[03:21] <GIGANTOR> hmm
[03:21] <OOD> and you need to cut down on the 't's :P
[03:21] <mattttttt> CS2
[03:21] <OOD> installing CS2 doesn't work
[03:21] <Agios> rr72: you probably dropped yourself out of a group needed for sudo
[03:21] <mattttttt> hmm bummer
[03:21] <rr72> how do i add myself
[03:22] <OOD> you can copy it over, but it'll complain about not being registered or something of that sort
[03:22] <GIGANTOR> oooh, gaming music.  Maybe this isn't so bad..
[03:22] <mattttttt> i realize it comes with apps, but i know PS pretty good
[03:22] <rr72> wait i can't since i can't sudo
[03:22] <timi> hey ood
[03:22] <OOD> and it'll shut down immediatly
[03:22] <rr72> nvm
[03:22] <thompa> got flash installed path was wrong
[03:22] <rr72> where do i manually by file edit what groups i am in ? /etc/?
[03:22] <GIGANTOR> dan-  you still around?
[03:22] <timi> i went to encode file but only wav was there
[03:22] <timi> and wav is huge
[03:22] <timi> where was vorbis or mp3
[03:22] <thompa> whats wrong with amarok
[03:22] <rr72> admin prolly
[03:23] <Agios> rr72: reboot into rescue mode then chroot and usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin <youruser>
[03:23] <OOD> timi: only wav? i have mp3, ogg and flac to chose from besides wav
[03:23] <GIGANTOR> bom tss bom tss bom tss
[03:23] <rr72> ty
[03:23] <OOD> timi: you have extra xine codecs installed?
[03:23] <Agios> rr72: I suspect you dropped admin group
[03:23] <rr72> i did
[03:23] <timi> yea installed
[03:23] <Agios> along with everything else there
[03:24] <rr72> chroot whats that?
[03:24] <timi> OOD where do you got to choose encoder
[03:24] <rr72> do i need a cd or no?
[03:24] <Agios> actually, you won't need to chroot. forget that.
[03:24] <rr72> just select rescure from grub right?
[03:24] <thompa> hp desktop for windows really sucks, it took over 4 hours to install windows media center, total crap, pc rebooted 11 times during install i counted it
[03:24] <OOD> timi: start KAudioCreator->settings->encoder
[03:24] <Agios> nope, just reboot and at the boot prompt hit ESC and arrow down to the rescue mode or whatever it says
[03:25] <dan> sorry
[03:25] <dan> i'm back
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> dan- np
[03:25] <rr72> i need to select it from grub
[03:25] <thompa> im going to go to windows irc to complain
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> whatcha got
[03:25] <timi> hrm i dont have that under settings
[03:25] <thompa> see ya
[03:25] <dan> well i'm gonna go play with wine now
[03:25] <dan> cya
[03:25] <Agios> it's (recovery mode)
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> sorry i couldn't help man...  but i am a noob as well
[03:25] <timi> i have hide toolbar, and hide status bar OOD
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> a week into linux  =S
[03:25] <rr72> it was from grub
[03:25] <dan> its all good
[03:25] <Agios> rr72: yes, select recovery mode from grub.
[03:26] <dan> we'll figure it out sooner or later, just dont give up
[03:26] <rr72> GIGANTOR~ a week>
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> wish you could pm
[03:26] <rr72> ?
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> rr72, lol yeah
[03:26] <rr72> a couple years for me
[03:26] <dan> i'll register soon
[03:26] <OOD> timi: settings->Configure KAudioCreator-?Encoder
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> i'm a tinkerer though
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[03:27] <Agios> I think I would use something other than amarok to get my sound working.
[03:27] <GIGANTOR> i've studied the GUI pretty well
[03:27] <GIGANTOR> hardware wise i know JACK
[03:27] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[03:27] <timi> ok
[03:27] <timi> i have oggenc lame, leave as wav and flac
[03:27] <timi> whihc one is mp3 the lame one lol
[03:28] <OOD> lame
[03:28] <rr72> Agios~ u forgot to tell me i needed ,s
[03:28] <GIGANTOR> man, no metal stations
[03:28] <rr72> ;)
[03:28] <GIGANTOR> bleah.
[03:28] <GIGANTOR> "rock" is extremely misleading as well
[03:29] <Agios>  ,s ?
[03:29] <rr72> commas
[03:29] <timi> hi set to lame
[03:29] <timi> then i selected all tracks and burned
[03:29] <Agios> oh, sorry
[03:29] <mattttttt> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?
[03:29] <rocketman768> "rock" is sort of like saying "soft drink" there are a million types
[03:29] <Agios> I just listed my groups and pasted them
[03:30] <GIGANTOR> modern U2 is not rock...
[03:30] <timi> first track it said removed wave file it said selected encoder not found
[03:30] <GIGANTOR> i don't care how ya slice it
[03:30] <GIGANTOR> POSSIBLY back in the joshua tree days, but even then..
[03:30] <rr72> u coulda done it in client
[03:31] <rr72> users uucp dialout audio video
[03:31] <rr72> ok how do i fic my printer?
[03:31] <rr72> *x
[03:31] <rocketman768> smash it like in the movie office space ;)
[03:31] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[03:32] <GIGANTOR> d*mn it feels good to be a gangsta..
[03:32] <rocketman768> hahaha
[03:32] <Agios> rr72: in the future when you want to add a group to a user use: gpasswd -a <user> <newgroup>
[03:32] <Agios> that won't delete the existing groups
[03:32] <rr72> ty
[03:32] <timi> how do i rip a freaking cd
[03:32] <rr72> someone told me wrong in #kde
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> timi-  what program are you using?
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> no f'n wonder, this "rock" station is from the UK...
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> blaaah
[03:33] <rr72> virgin?
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> yeah.
[03:33] <Agios> last time I ripped a CD I used grip. Been a good while though.
[03:33] <rr72> lol
[03:34] <timi> kaudiocreated
[03:34] <timi> kaudiocreater
[03:34] <GIGANTOR> i ripped one using something the other day, lemme look
[03:34] <timi> i start with putting a cd in the drive
[03:34] <GIGANTOR> it was extremely easy, whatever it was
[03:34] <mattttttt> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?
[03:35] <OOD> you can use katapult
[03:35] <OOD> alt+space
[03:35] <GIGANTOR> yeah, it was KAudioCreator
[03:35] <lnxkde> someone knows any nice racent movie, documental, video that talks about linux???
[03:35] <mattttttt> ahh thanks OOD
[03:35] <timi> alright gigantor then wht did you do
[03:36] <timi> it keeps telling me encoding is wrong or something
[03:36] <OOD> just type in the first few letters of a program and it'll start up, really handy
[03:36] <timi> it tickes me off
[03:36] <mattttttt> yeah that is convenient
[03:36] <mattttttt> cool
[03:37] <timi> i said ripe lame
[03:37] <timi> it said remove wav file selecoted encoder was not found command was --lame
[03:37] <timi> or something
[03:38] <timi> what does that mean
[03:38] <robotgeek> mattttttt: you can also set up a shortcut thru kcontrol
[03:39] <rr72> ok i need help getting my printer working
[03:39] <timi> where do ripped files go as defualt
[03:39] <rr72> it did work but now it doesnt
[03:40] <Agios> rr72: try setting it up again via System Settings
[03:40] <rr72> agin? it works jsut i don't ave access to port
[03:41] <rr72> "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied"
[03:41] <rr72> from :631/printers i see that
[03:41] <rr72> cups
[03:41] <Agios> ls -ls /dev/lp0
[03:41] <Agios> paste the line here
[03:42] <rr72> root is owner and lp is group
[03:42] <Agios> same here
[03:42] <Dahgol> Can i run games with xgl?
[03:42] <timi> can anyone help me burn a cd
[03:43] <rr72> with what on it?
[03:43] <rr72> use k3b
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Seen K3b?
[03:43] <timi> what is that
[03:43] <Dahgol> !xgl
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: A CD burning application.
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should be installed by default.
[03:43] <timi> o sorry
[03:43] <timi> i meant rip a cd
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think it rips CDs as well
[03:43] <abattoir_> timi: didnt i tell you about audiocd:/ ?
[03:44] <rr72> Agios~ ?? any ideas?
[03:44] <abattoir_> you just have to copy the folder and paste it
[03:44] <Agios> rr72: I'm thinking :)
[03:44] <abattoir_> you can however tweak settings if you want to as well
[03:44] <rr72> thought i smelt somin
[03:44] <timi> audiocd what
[03:44] <timi> i tried to use kaudiocreater
[03:45] <timi> but it could never find the right encoder
[03:45] <rr72> i followed the winxp install link from the ubutt
[03:45] <timi> what is audiocd:/
[03:45] <Agios> rr72: type: groups cupsys
[03:46] <Agios> see what groups cups is in
[03:46] <abattoir_> !info kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
[03:46] <ubotu> kdemultimedia-kio-plugins: enables the browsing of audio CDs under Konqueror. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 608 kB
[03:46] <rr72> cupsys : lpadmin lp dialout
[03:46] <abattoir_> timi: you have that installed? ^^^^
[03:46] <Agios> rr72: how are you trying to print?
[03:46] <timi> umm lett me try
[03:46] <abattoir_> timi: if you do, type audiocd:/ in konqueror
[03:46] <rr72> cups
[03:46] <timi> i did
[03:46] <rr72> test page
[03:46] <timi> and it opens
[03:46] <abattoir_> timi: you should see a folder for mp3 and ogg
[03:47] <timi> it shows me the audio cd tracks
[03:47] <timi> yes i c those
[03:47] <abattoir_> timi: just copy those folders to where you want them to be
[03:47] <rr72> where u selsect the drivers
[03:47] <timi> doesnt work
[03:47] <rr72> and a test page from my computer
[03:47] <Agios> rr72: well, cups has access to group lp and lp0 allows it
[03:47] <timi> it says stall
[03:47] <abattoir_> timi: you have lame installed?
[03:47] <abattoir_> !info lame
[03:47] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[03:48] <Agios> rr72: use system settings to delete and recreate the printer. See if that straightens things out.
[03:48] <rr72> kk
[03:48] <timi> alright i jsut got lame
[03:48] <abattoir> timi: now try again
[03:50] <abattoir_> timi: if you want to tweak the encoding settings go to Kcontrol->Sound and Multimedia->...
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> SEAL IS NOT ROCK
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> damned british
[03:50] <timi> well kaudiocreater is working now
[03:50] <timi> now if only i could find out where the files are going
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i'm sure in the settings it tells you where the output folder is
[03:51] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[03:51] <timi> errm not really
[03:51] <timi> i just clicked rip
[03:51] <timi> and its ripping
[03:51] <GIGANTOR> yessah it does, i have used it  ;)
[03:51] <rr72> Agios~ should i restart cups to be sure?
[03:51] <timi> ok i c it i think
[03:51] <timi> maybe
[03:52] <rr72> Agios~ same error
[03:52] <Agios> rr72: I wouldn't think that would be needed.
[03:52] <Agios> try it then
[03:52] <rr72> in cups web screen it says that
[03:52] <rr72> same error
[03:53] <GIGANTOR> damn, why am i singing SEAL
[03:53] <rr72> i like the web based admin for cups
[03:53] <rr72> Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing.
[03:53] <rr72> :(
[03:53] <Agios> yes, you can't define printers through cups. You have to use the systme settings tools
[03:54] <rr72> it did work before i left for vacation
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> cos they will never, tear us apart
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> dun dun dun DUN
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> never, EVER, tear us apart*
[03:54] <rr72> just like kdm
[03:56] <Eeyore> http://mobilitytoday.com/news/006731/ubuntu_sony_ux - possible for kubuntu ?
[03:56] <Agios> rr72: From the Ubuntu forums searching on your error message:  Final solution: uninstall CUPS in Adept, reinstall and I can at last print in Ubuntu.
[03:57] <GIGANTOR> anyone want to help me with a small problem, i've done my duty in here  ;P
[03:57] <abattoir_> Eeyore: yes, why not?
[03:57] <Eeyore> just wondered
[03:57] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: what's the problem?
[03:57] <rr72> adept? whats that?
[03:57] <GIGANTOR> abattoir-  i'm trying to install yahoo messenger  =S
[03:57] <timi> linux is so hard to use
[03:57] <GIGANTOR> and uh...
[03:57] <intelikey> !info adept
[03:57] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:57] <timi> sometimes i go through microsoft withdrawals
[03:57] <rr72> oh i just use apt-get
[03:58] <timi> i like the way amarok just finds everything for you though thats sweet
[03:58] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: the old yahoo messenger for unix?
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> it says it needs libssl 0.9.6, right...   well...   adept says i have 0.9.7,  and no choice for 0.9.6
[03:58] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: why not try kopete?
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> yeah
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> because i want the damned chat..  lol.  There, i said it...
[03:58] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: kopete has support for yahoo messenger
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> i like to hear the 'tards talk in voice chat when i'm bored and doing stuff
[03:59] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: i'm not sure you can do that w/ the yahoo messenger for unix
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> i even tried it in Wine,  no dice
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> i'll try kopete though, let me see
[03:59] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: its an old version... and yahoo stopped development long ago
[03:59] <Agios> rr72:  you can do it with apt-get too.  There are several other things on the forums but that is the most recent.
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> oh..  suckage..  well nevermind  ;\
[03:59] <Agios> the fact that it once worked is promising :)
[03:59] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: i'm not sure if kopete supports voice in yahoo messenger though, never used it
[03:59] <rr72> kk should i purge or no?
[04:00] <Agios> yeah, purge
[04:00] <Agios> give it a good enema
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> yeah, i can at least chat in yahoo with Gaim...  but just no voice
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> i'll give it a whirl though
[04:00] <rr72> Agios~ um no
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> thanks abattoir
[04:00] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: np :)
[04:00] <Agios> rr72: you want to refresh the config files too, purge.
[04:01] <rr72> i mean the enama saying
[04:01] <GIGANTOR> abattoir-  how long have you used linux?
[04:01] <Agios> LOL, purge = enema
[04:01] <GIGANTOR> you are very knowledgable
[04:01] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: as the only os, for around a year and half...
[04:02] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: hehe, you really think so? :P
[04:02] <GIGANTOR> i've started using it on my home machine this past week or so, and i haven't even wanted to go back to Windows for anything, even games
[04:02] <GIGANTOR> just messing around is entertainment enough for me  ;P
[04:02] <CaBlGuY> anyone around that can help me with google-earth?
[04:02] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: well, apart from the odd CS/NFS sessions i'm not really a gamer, so never had a problem switching to linux :)
[04:02] <OOD> depends what the problem is :)
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  well, I got it installed but, It's not runing..
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> :/
[04:03] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:1204: warning: pm_send_all is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm_legacy.h:31)
[04:03] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:1258: warning: pm_send_all is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm_legacy.h:31)
[04:03] <OOD> abattoir: counter strike works in wine
[04:03] <intelikey> lots of warnings building this kernel
[04:03] <GIGANTOR> i also now use it as my workstation at work now too  ;P   Sucks when i have to go play admin and deal with windows pc's
[04:03] <abattoir> OOD: its too slow for my integrated graphics card :(
[04:03] <GIGANTOR> so passe  ;P
[04:03] <OOD> CaBlGuY: did you install the ati/nvidia driver?
[04:04] <CaBlGuY> yes,
[04:04] <OOD> run in in console. what and paste what errors come up
[04:04] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  ok, gimme a sec..
[04:05] <OOD> abattoir: ah
[04:05] <OOD> CaBlGuY: paste in pastebin, not here
[04:05] <OOD> !pastebin
[04:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <timi> ok i got it to burn mp3's and such
[04:05] <abattoir_> OOD: moreover messing around w/ my system is more entertaining... as GIGANTOR said :)
[04:05] <timi> and implaying it amarok and it fetched the correct lyrcs but it didnt auto into my collection
[04:05] <timi> howo do i do that
[04:06] <OOD> abattoir_: heh, i like to mess around too, but when everything works there's nothing to mess around :P
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> Ummmmmm
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> :/
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> why do I gotta be ROOT to run it???   :(
[04:07] <abattoir_> OOD: upgrade to edgy :P
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  runs fine in root..
[04:08] <CaBlGuY> err.. "as" root
[04:08] <Agios> it ran fine as a user too when I had it installed here.
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> as a regular user? or root?
[04:09] <Agios> as a regular user
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> I musta had to log into the root account for some reason to install it then..
[04:09] <Agios> well, ran fine may be misleading. It crashed often enough that I gave up on it.
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> that's the only thing I can figure..
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:09] <GIGANTOR> lol  ;P
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> have fun GIGANTOR  ;)
[04:10] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: that's a game? :S
[04:10] <abattoir_> :P
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> be back tomorrow morning  ;)
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> LOL aba, one you never win
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> ;D
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> GIGANTOR:  if u need any help, don't hesitate to ask..
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:10] <OOD> lol
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> have fun guys, talk to ya tomorrow  ;)
[04:11] <rr72> Agios~ i can't make drivers for the printer now
[04:11] <CaBlGuY> so, OOD   do I need to reinstall..  and if I do, how do I install with the regular account?
[04:11] <OOD> it worked fine for me when i just installed the deb with sudo
[04:12] <Agios> rr72:  your printer isn't in the driver list?
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> u installed with sudo, and u could run with regular account??
[04:12] <rr72> it is but i get an error
[04:12] <Agios> No, there was no deb when I installed it. I used the bin from google.
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> I think that's where I got it from too..
[04:13] <rr72> do i need to install driver via apt0get?
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> from the google site..
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> OOD:    this is what it says if I try to run it on regular acount..   >    symlink: Permission denied
[04:14] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:14] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> course, if I use sudo, it open right up...
[04:15] <Agios> CaBlGuY: what symbolic link is it trying to create?
[04:15] <Agios> rr72: is foomatic installed?
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> dunno, but I just opened it up with sudo and it didn't ask for a pass this time..
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:16] <rr72> prolly nor
[04:16] <rr72> t
[04:16] <rr72> client or what one
[04:16] <rr72> i removed somin but don't rememebr what one cups deleted with it
[04:17] <KUbuntu-fr398> Arggh! Guys, I *really* need help setting up a VNC server...Help me please!
[04:18] <rr72> foomatic-db-engine is already the newest version.
[04:18] <Agios> rr72: well, I have almost every foomatic package listed installed.
[04:19] <draik> rr72, did you manage to get the printer shared?
[04:19] <Agios> I have them all installed except the one for gimp-print
[04:19] <rr72> draik yeah but its not printing
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> well, I know how to run it now anyway...   Hmmmmmm  wierd i gotta use sudo thogh....
[04:19] <draik> what's the error you're getting rr72?
[04:19] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:19] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:19] <Agios> CaBlGuY: if you knew the link you could just create it once and leave it.
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  it may be trying to link to the server to check for updates..  maybe that's it..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> but I dunno why I would need to use sudo still..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> wi\erd
[04:21] <rr72> how do i see what was recently removed from my system?
[04:21] <OOD> CaBlGuY: i think it's because you installed it with sudo, and the symlink is in the root home folder
[04:21] <draik> I have been trying to setup my printer on my Kubuntu desktop with my laptop on the same router
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  could be..  I may try to install it on the regular account later..
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> anyway, thanks for the help OOD   ;)
[04:22] <OOD> yea give that a try
[04:22] <DodgerAFK> hia ll
[04:22] <DodgerAFK> hi all
[04:23] <rr72> WTF it just worked too
[04:23] <rr72> how do i see what packs i just removed off of my system?
[04:25] <intelikey> rr72 which frontend to dpkg ?
[04:25] <Agios> there is an aptitude log and a dpkg log in /var/log
[04:25] <rr72> null
[04:27] <intelikey> rr72 if you used venella dpkg -r   then what ever package you named, thats what it removed.
[04:27] <rr72> intelikey~ it was a dependancy issue so i got rid of the stuff along with cupsys
[04:27] <rr72> but i cat a long file so it ovoer wrote
[04:28] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:29] <rr72> what will that do?
[04:30] <rr72> now i can't print at all
[04:32] <rr72> i am getting an error when i add my printer
[04:32] <rr72> it can't build driver
[04:34] <intelikey> draik cups
[04:35] <intelikey> add network printer
[04:35] <draik> I tried it and I get an error about a logon
[04:35] <draik> I tried all 3 options
[04:35] <intelikey> that's all i know about that.
[04:35] <draik> ty intelikey
[04:36] <rr72> ARGH i can't print now
[04:36] <rr72> Agios~ thx for the help so far tho
[04:36] <sophie_> rr72: What i do is print everything has a pdf and print it a work very cheap!
[04:37] <sophie_> rr72: no more printer at home
[04:37] <Agios> rr72: I'm not sure what's missing
[04:37] <rr72> sophie_~ i can have my dad print stuff at over 200 pps but i don't need that speed or quality or large foramt
[04:38] <scabootssca> how do i remove lilo and make grub the booter?
[04:38] <sophie_> another questions guys is firefox stable on dapper
[04:38] <rr72> scabootssca~ don't ask lilo he gets upset
[04:38] <Agios> firefox has been stable here
[04:38] <kameronk> yes, firefox is stable on dapper
[04:38] <intelikey> rr72 you said you removed cupsys     i'm like duh....  wonder if that's why cups config is not working now ????
[04:38] <sophie_> must be an extention tham
[04:38] <rr72> intelikey~ OMFG i forgot to re install it
[04:39] <Agios> well, that would be a problem alright
[04:39] <rr72> how do i see what was removed with cupsys?
[04:39] <Agios> doesn't matter, it will handle the deps when you reinstall it
[04:40] <rr72> nothing reinstalled with it
[04:40] <rr72> just itself
[04:40] <intelikey> do sudo apt-get install -f     and see if all deps are ok.
[04:40] <scabootssca> rr72, intelikey wait you're here ok i need to reinstall lilo how do i do that ? this time my linux is on hdb and windows is on hda it's reversed
[04:40] <Agios> that may be enough
[04:40] <rr72> intelikey~ yes
[04:40] <rr72> hplip mean anything?
[04:41] <Agios> you should probably have that
[04:41] <rr72> see that ws removed but not reinstalled
[04:41] <Agios> so, install it
[04:42] <Agios> I would try creating the printer again and see what happens
[04:42] <intelikey> scabootssca you change the "root=/dev/hdb1"  to  "root=/dev/hda1"      and the  "other=/dev/hdb1"  to   "other=/dev/hda1"     and run lilo.
[04:42] <rr72> hpoijs?
[04:42] <scabootssca> i'm on a live
[04:42] <scabootssca> cd
[04:42] <rr72> *hpijs anything?
[04:43] <scabootssca> so i edit /etc/llo.conf?
[04:43] <Agios> rr72: those may or may not be needed. They are HP related and your printer is Canon right?
[04:43] <rr72> yea
[04:43] <intelikey> scabootssca so exit the lilo.conf   and    chroot /<mountpoint> lilo
[04:43] <intelikey> s/exit/edit/
[04:43] <Agios> so try to add the printer and see
[04:44] <intelikey> scabootssca yes edit /<mountpoint>/etc/lilo.conf
[04:44] <rr72> Agios~ same msg
[04:45] <intelikey> you have to mount the partition some where   <mountpoint>  might be /media/hda   or some such.
[04:45] <scabootssca> it dosnt work.. it says "Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems
[04:45] <scabootssca> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[04:45] <scabootssca> "
[04:45] <intelikey> scabootssca you setup a raid ?
[04:45] <scabootssca> it's mounted in /media/kubuntu
[04:45] <Agios> rr72: same message as what? There have been several :)
[04:45] <scabootssca> i dunno?
[04:45] <scabootssca> what's that
[04:45] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:45] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:46] <rr72> higly dout it if u don't kno wwhat it is
[04:46] <intelikey> scabootssca try this     sudo chroot /media/kubuntu/ lilo
[04:46] <Agios> apt-get the foomatic-gimp-print package
[04:46] <scabootssca> thats execly what i dod
[04:47] <intelikey> hmmmm....
[04:47] <Agios> foomatic-db-gimp-print
[04:47] <scabootssca> my lilo.conf -> http://pastebin.ca/100381
[04:47] <intelikey> and it says raid_setup: stat(blah)  ??
[04:47] <scabootssca> yes
[04:47] <rr72> foomatic-db-gimp-print is already the newest version.
[04:47] <Agios> foomatic-filters-ppds   that one too
[04:48] <rr72> foomatic-filters-ppds is already the newest version.
[04:48] <Agios> foomatic-db-hpijs and foomatic-db-gutenprint
[04:48] <Agios> that's about all of them LOL
[04:49] <intelikey> scabootssca "    7. root=/dev/hda   "    hdb
[04:49] <rr72> Package foomatic-db-gutenprint is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:49] <scabootssca> ok
[04:49] <rr72> foomatic-db-hpijs is already the newest version.
[04:49] <Agios> ok hpijs and hplip-ppds
[04:50] <rr72> hpijs is already the newest version.
[04:50] <rr72> hplip-ppds is already the newest version.
[04:50] <rr72> WTF it just worked an hour ago
[04:50] <scabootssca> it still says "Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems
[04:50] <scabootssca> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[04:50] <scabootssca> "
[04:50] <Agios> well, that's all ther is
[04:51] <Agios> scabootssca: are you trying to set up a raid as a boot device?
[04:51] <scabootssca> what's a raid
[04:51] <intelikey> scabootssca looks like you've raided that drive     what does   fdisk -l /dev/hda    tell us ?
[04:51] <rr72> do i need b;uex-cups?
[04:51] <scabootssca> Cannot open /dev/hda
[04:51] <rr72> it was tehre before
[04:52] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says Cannot open /dev/hda
[04:52] <caminomaster> hello
[04:52] <Agios> rr72: go ahead. dunno what it does
[04:52] <intelikey> scabootssca looks like you've raided that drive     what does   sudo fdisk -l
[04:52] <rr72> bluetooth printing
[04:52] <Agios> oh, well, probably not then :)
[04:52] <caminomaster> can U help me? I need2 configure my proxy connection for kopete, but I'm in gnome...
[04:53] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says http://pastebin.ca/100383
[04:53] <Agios> kopete will run under gnome
[04:53] <rr72> sssssshhhhhhhhhh
[04:53] <rr72> don't tell him
[04:54] <timi_> hey im using amaork and it loaded my mp3s as well as system sounds
[04:54] <timi_> anyone know hbow i reomeve them frm my collection
[04:54] <intelikey> nothing unusual there....  put up your lilo.conf again scabootssca
[04:55] <Agios> rr72: I'm not sure where to go with your printer problem and I have to leave shortly.
[04:55] <rr72> nnnnnnooooooooooo
[04:55] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok here http://pastebin.ca/100385
[04:55] <Agios> well, there's always tomorrow :)
[04:55] <scabootssca> what does raided mean?
[04:56] <rr72> im going shopping for a watch tomorrow!
[04:56] <Agios> you won't need a printer for that :)
[04:56] <Kr4t05> >>
[04:56] <Kr4t05> <<
[04:56] <Kr4t05> That's neat.
[04:56] <Kr4t05> Playing with XGL. :)
[04:57] <intelikey> scabootssca i don't see a reason for that error.
[04:57] <rr72> HELP ME!
[04:57] <scabootssca> what dows that error ususlly mean?
[04:57] <scabootssca> anmd what dopes raided mean?
[04:57] <rr72> dr_willis~ HEY@
[04:57] <Agios> rr72: go to the ubuntu forums and search on the error message. See what pops up.
[04:58] <rr72> can u help me Dr?
[04:58] <dr_willis> Moo!
[04:58] <kazukisan> Serenity
[04:58] <kazukisan> woops
[04:58] <dr_willis> Please state the nature of the  Linux Emergancy.
[04:58] <dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <kazukisan> I have Dapper installed and have Opera Installed how do i get quicktime .mov files and rm or wmv Files to stream with it ?
[04:58] <rr72> kazukisan~ that ur pass?
[04:59] <kazukisan> thats the movie im downloading
[04:59] <rr72> dr_willis~ my printer wont install
[04:59] <dr_willis> rr72 bummer.
[04:59] <scabootssca> intelikey, i dont see any "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386" but i do see "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386" mabye thats it?
[04:59] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:59] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:59] <scabootssca> because windows boots from lilo but linux dosnt
[05:00] <rr72> dr_willis~ thats the error i get when i click on the driver to use
[05:00] <intelikey> scabootssca a raid aray is several disks what are all written with the same data and read as if they were one disk.  it's a system safty option for servers and ...    yeah you updated your kernel...
[05:00] <dr_willis> rr72 could be theres some extra cups packages ya need to install.
[05:00] <scabootssca> so i broke it?
[05:00] <intelikey> so change the number on vmlinuz and initramfs
[05:00] <dr_willis> fire up synaptic/whatever and see if any other cups/foomatic driver packages are not installed yet.
[05:00] <rr72> dr_willis~ which one? i have most off em ask Agios
[05:00] <scabootssca> should i chgange it to 26 instead of 23>?
[05:00] <intelikey> in the lilo.conf
[05:01] <rr72> dr_willis~ i use apt-get, screw the pack manager
[05:01] <intelikey> scabootssca yes.
[05:01] <rr72> i do the real way
[05:01] <dr_willis> sure.. whatever. :)
[05:01] <scabootssca> ok i did do you think it will work now?
[05:01] <intelikey> try it.
[05:01] <scabootssca> ok
[05:02] <xylus> can anyone help me with a realy important question//?/?
[05:02] <xylus> im using kubuntu now rite but i wana install debian latest stable version
[05:02] <xylus> and when i get into the setup it dosent detect my eathernet card
[05:02] <xylus> and brings up a big list of drivers
[05:02] <xylus> what should i do to fix this problem
[05:02] <xylus> anyone who could help me would be greatley apreciated
[05:03] <rr72> xylus~ stay with kubuntu
[05:03] <xylus> nooo kubuntu blows i can only install things that are listed with apt forget compileing source
[05:03] <xylus> airgo i cant download anything and install it
[05:03] <xylus> unless its on apt unless u can tell me how to get around that instead
[05:03] <kameronk> you can download rmps
[05:03] <kameronk> rpms*
[05:04] <kameronk> can convert with alien
[05:04] <xylus> rpms work on kubuntu?
[05:04] <kameronk> you have to use alien to convert them
[05:04] <intelikey> xylus why can't you compile    and why do you think you will be able to in debian ?
[05:04] <kameronk> just sudo apt-get install alien
[05:04] <xylus> because debain is a full os
[05:04] <xylus> where as kubuntu is alittle 500mb install
[05:04] <rr72> kubuntu is a full one too
[05:04] <kameronk> kubuntu is debian and more
[05:04] <kameronk> ubuntu (and thus, kubuntu) is debian based
[05:04] <xylus> debian is 2 dvd cds so most of the main componenets and dependencys are their
[05:04] <xylus> yes i know
[05:04] <kameronk> debian also uses apt-get
[05:05] <rr72> and windows is what 1.4gigs and is crap so its not the size that counts
[05:05] <xylus> kubuntu is debain based
[05:05] <xylus> i like the apt system
[05:05] <xylus> but i just want deb
[05:05] <kameronk> well, if you just want debian, get debian
[05:05] <xylus> wont detect my eth0
[05:05] <kameronk> o
[05:05] <xylus> brings up a list of drivers
[05:05] <rr72> look at DSL (Damn Small Linux) its a cd and rox
[05:05] <xylus> thats ok
[05:05] <kameronk> you probably just need to <i>compile</i> in the driver
[05:06] <kameronk> but you probably don't want to do that
[05:06] <Kr4t05> rr72: Slax its better. :)
[05:06] <kameronk> slax is cool
[05:06] <dr_willis> slax is handy
[05:06] <xylus> so this alien program allows me to install rpm's?
[05:06] <dr_willis> it converts rpms to debs
[05:06] <Kr4t05> !alien
[05:06] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:06] <rr72> Kr4t05~ it was in example
[05:06] <xylus> anyway of enableing ./config ./make and make install?
[05:06] <rr72> idc
[05:06] <xylus> on kubuntu
[05:06] <kameronk> well, i've gotten rpms to work via alien
[05:06] <kameronk> it's kinda hit or miss though
[05:06] <abattoir_> xylus: install build-essential
[05:07] <xylus> thx
[05:07] <xylus> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[05:07] <abattoir> xylus: yup
[05:07] <Kr4t05> xylus: yes
[05:07] <xylus> kool thattel enable me to compile source programs?
[05:07] <kameronk> yes
[05:07] <xylus> man why dosent the system come with that
[05:07] <kameronk> most of them
[05:07] <dr_willis> many programs also have other dev dependencies
[05:07] <kameronk> it inflates the size
[05:07] <kameronk> so you may need more
[05:07] <dr_willis> its trivial to install is why.
[05:07] <abattoir> xylus: should, but you might need to install other development packages, based on what you are trying to compile
[05:07] <dr_willis> :)
[05:08] <xylus> all linux distros can compile source aside from deb and kubuntu right off the bat
[05:08] <dr_willis> xylus,  not true.
[05:08] <kameronk> as dr_willis said, not all do
[05:08] <abattoir> xylus: ^^^^ exactly
[05:08] <kameronk> especially the livecd based
[05:08] <dr_willis> and its trivial to install the stuff.
[05:08] <xylus> sigh..
[05:08] <xylus> i wish they would just make a distro that has everything pre installed
[05:09] <xylus> so u dont have to go through a shitload of hastle everytime u wana do anything\
[05:09] <xylus> lolz
[05:09] <dr_willis> then it would be called bloated.
[05:09] <kameronk> ^^ YES!
[05:09] <xylus> so atleast it would work
[05:09] <xylus> and you wouldent have to go get installs of java and crap
[05:09] <dr_willis> quit being such a lazy whiner.
[05:09] <xylus> every 5 minuts
[05:09] <dr_willis> :)
[05:09] <xylus> lol
[05:09] <kameronk> how do you define having everything?
[05:09] <dr_willis> install the stuff.. save your history to a file. so ya can rerun the script later on a different install if needed.
[05:09] <kameronk> if it had all the software from the apt repositories?!?
[05:10] <xylus> well i mean almost every time u install something it has a dependency isue or you need some other crap downloaded usualy takes like 5 hours to install something simple like limewire
[05:10] <kameronk> it would be too much for most desktop computers
[05:10] <kameronk> what you need and what i need are completely different
[05:10] <dr_willis> limewire takes me about 2 min to get installed.
[05:10] <dr_willis> perhaps 5 :P counting the download speed.
[05:10] <xylus> lol thats just a example
[05:10] <dr_willis> !frostfire
[05:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostfire - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:10] <dr_willis> !limewire
[05:10] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:10] <xylus> i tryed to download ldcc
[05:10] <xylus> and install it
[05:11] <dr_willis> Java  only just RECENTLY was legally allowed to be in the repos.. blame SUN.
[05:11] <xylus> and that took me like 3 hrs to get goin
[05:11] <xylus> lol
[05:11] <xylus> nyways thanks guys
[05:11] <xylus> what was the names of those development packages i needed again?
[05:11] <xylus> ill wirte them down
[05:11] <dr_willis> depedns on what you are compiling
[05:11] <rr72> xylus~ kubuntu FTW!
[05:11] <intelikey> !make
[05:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:11] <xylus> im compileing source as in ./make ./configure and make install
[05:12] <yender> hello all
[05:12] <dr_willis> normally the ./configure will spit out some errirs if they are not all installed.
[05:12] <rr72> and tell u what u need
[05:12] <dr_willis> xylus,  yes.. and it DEPENDS on exactly WHAT program you are compiling.
[05:12] <rr72> dr_willis~ DR please help my printer
[05:12] <xylus> indeed i could install programs like that fine on mandrake and redhat etc..
[05:12] <xylus> sigh dr willis
[05:12] <rr72> it worked when i went on vacation and now it doesnt work
[05:12] <xylus> u serious?
[05:12] <e-Hernick> Hey... I've got Kubuntu 6.06 installed on my Lenovo N100 laptop, with a 1680x1050 i810 display, and I'm using 915resolution so I can set it at 1680x1050. I've got a display corruption issue.. there is one horizontal line on my display that seems to repeat itself at another location on the display, and it's a software issue (it works in Windows)
[05:13] <xylus> so i gota download dev stuff every time i wana compile something?
[05:13] <dr_willis> rr72   no clue there.. enable verbose cups loggingm, and get some errors and check the wiki/forums .
[05:13] <rr72> i get an error when building the driver
[05:13] <dr_willis> xylus,  depends..  on what specificially you are compiling.. (for the 3rd time)
[05:13] <rr72> xylus~ how new to linux r u?
[05:13] <xylus> grrr
[05:13] <xylus> im kinda new but ive used many other systems befor
[05:13] <xylus> but kubuntu gets under my nails
[05:14] <e-Hernick> is it hard to install Xorg 7.1 on kubuntu 6.06? I was thinking I'd try it..
[05:14] <rr72> xylus~ have u compiled ur own kernel before?
[05:14] <xylus> ok isent their a all in one file for compileing their dr willis? i dont wana come here everytime i wana install software
[05:14] <Dasnipa`> xylus, why does it 'get under your nails' ?
[05:14] <scabootssca> intelikey, it didnt work
[05:14] <xylus> because the base system comes with 0 software and every time i wana get something done i gota do the runaround
[05:15] <scabootssca> i'm typing what error messahes it had into pastebin
[05:15] <dr_willis> xylus,  thats why you read the programs docs and see what other depeneencies and libs it uses/needs.
[05:15] <Dasnipa`> xylus, aptitude isnt very hard to use
[05:15] <dr_willis> xylus,  or ya run ./configure and see what it complaines about being missing.
[05:15] <kameronk> xylus, do you have the proprietary repositories enabled? such as multiverse and universe?
[05:15] <xylus> yes kameronk
[05:15] <scabootssca> intelikey, it d'snt run
[05:16] <xylus> i had to do that for karamba
[05:16] <kameronk> ok, because that has many programs not availble by default
[05:16] <Dasnipa`> xylus, this is true too... imo its good that it doesnt install any unneeded because then you only install what you need... not unnecessary overhead
[05:16] <kameronk> karamba is universe, proprietary software is multiverse
[05:16] <xylus> yes its good that you only install what u need but its bad because when u wana install something u need you go through much hastle to do so
[05:17] <dr_willis> compared to the hoops ive jumped through under windows.. your argument is pointless.
[05:17] <Dasnipa`> xylus, after a month or so youll have most of the basic libraries if you do a lot of compiling
[05:17] <xylus> ok kameronk i understand what the repositorys mean but im not sure how they work yet
[05:17] <kameronk> well, the specify where apt-get can download software from
[05:17] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:17] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:17] <xylus> yeah dasnipa i would just like to find a way to install all the basic libraries
[05:17] <intelikey> scabootssca your kernel version and lilo.config now match ?
[05:17] <xylus> so i dont ahve to look around so much :)
[05:18] <Dasnipa`> sudo apt-get build-essential i think has a lotta good stuff
[05:18] <dr_willis> all the libs, is differnt from all the dev-lib files that are used by the compiler to compile source that uses the libs.
[05:18] <dr_willis> build-essential is the minimal set of tools needed.
[05:18] <xylus> haveing linux without the basic libaries is like haveing half a windows partition lol going out and downloading dll files everytime u wana install something isent practical
[05:18] <dr_willis> xylus,  you are confused..
[05:18] <xylus> ok ill get the essential build
[05:18] <intelikey> Dasnipa` he's been told that several times now.    i think hes just trolling
[05:18] <dr_willis> if you do an apt-get install whateverprogram and it needs some lib.. it WILL install that lib also.
[05:19] <xylus> oh yeah i know that lolz
[05:19] <xylus> but the apt list of programs is small
[05:19] <kameronk> xylus, when was the last time that you updated the apt-get cache?
[05:19] <xylus> and i want to download stuff thats not on it
[05:19] <kameronk> "sudo apt-get update"
[05:19] <xylus> hmmm i updated about 5 hours ago
[05:19] <kameronk> apt-get has <i>almost</i> everything
[05:19] <kameronk> if you have the correct repositories
[05:19] <xylus> hmm
[05:19] <intelikey> the apt list of packages sure is small  only 18000+   that's really small.
[05:19] <kameronk> i'm looking for a link with directions to enable the others
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[05:20] <xylus> yeah realy tho intell
[05:20] <xylus> well its not that its small
[05:20] <intelikey> !repos > xylus
[05:20] <xylus> its just htat most of the stuff i wana install isent on their
[05:21] <xylus> for instance ldcc and limewire and For some reason i apt got bitchx and its not showing on my system :S
[05:21] <xylus> lol
[05:21] <xylus> altho i think its because im running kde ive never used bitchx befor
[05:22] <dr_willis> ya havent checked out the bx docs. :P the binary is called BitchX last i looked. from the command line.
[05:22] <dr_willis> and irssi is better anyway. :)
[05:22] <scabootssca> intelikey,  heres what it says http://pastebin.ca/100407
[05:22] <xylus> yeah i looked up the binary in the find files and folders
[05:22] <xylus> and executed it
[05:22] <xylus> but nothin happen lol
[05:23] <xylus> nyways that dosent matter dr willis whats sunjava latest version called in the apt list? u knwo offhand? i need it
[05:23] <scabootssca> intelikey, and whenever i run "sudo chroot /linux lilo
[05:23] <scabootssca> "  it says "Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems
[05:23] <scabootssca> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[05:23] <scabootssca> "
[05:23] <xylus> sudo apt-get install sunjava?
[05:23] <timi_> anyone know why i cant click the play audio cd on amarok
[05:24] <xylus> timi do you hear sound when u use amarok?
[05:24] <xylus> i click play and the file is over in like one second lol
[05:24] <xylus> and its a 6 minut song
[05:24] <xylus> i just use xmms
[05:24] <scabootssca> did you enable mp3?
[05:24] <xylus> i find its more stable
[05:24] <kameronk> are they mp3's? you need a codec for mp3's
[05:24] <xylus> lol what kinda music player requires u to enable mp3! lmfao
[05:25] <timi_> yeah
[05:25] <kameronk> open source ones
[05:25] <scabootssca> linux ones
[05:25] <intelikey> scabootssca those are all initramfs errors.  it's booting to the initramfs  and the initramfs has not been updated so it's looking for root on /dev/hda1  which is now windows... you can enter   mount /dev/hdb1 /root ;exit    at that prompt to continue the boot proccess.
[05:25] <xylus> lmfgdao
[05:25] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[05:25] <timi_> i can play an audio cd in kaffeine
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <Hobbsee> xylus: see all of that ^
[05:25] <xylus> you actualy have to plugin mp3 files? so what is amoroks base file reg's?
[05:25] <timi_> but i have to burn it to an mp3 to play in amarok
[05:25] <timi_> no biggie really
[05:25] <kameronk> @ xylus: the mpeg 1 layer 3 audio codec is proprietary, developed by the Fraunhoffer Institute (from memory, i could be wrong)
[05:26] <timi_> i had toinstall some mp3 package
[05:26] <scabootssca> intelikey, after i do that it should boot right?
[05:26] <xylus> thats ok kame i dont like amrok nywhayz xmms is fine for me ;) dosent require any downloading or hastle its good to go off the install thats how i like it :)
[05:26] <xylus> lol
[05:26] <intelikey> scabootssca lilo is doing all it can there.  it's all initramfs from that point.   lilo already loaded the kernel and the initramfs   that's all it ever does.      yes. it should continuing booting.
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Yo
[05:27] <scabootssca> intelikey, and after it boots i can run the lilo command and everything should work right?
[05:27] <xylus> kame whats the install for java called
[05:27] <xylus> please
[05:27] <timi_> anyone know how to create a subcatory of album for amarok so when you click on artis it has the album and not just the song
[05:27] <Dasnipa`> umm you go to java.sun.com and follow their java instructions xylus
[05:28] <intelikey> scabootssca no.  run mkinitramfs   and update your initramfs.img-<uname -r>    then every thing will work.
[05:28] <abattoir> timi_: amarok should do it automatically if you have it tagged properly
[05:28] <xylus> hmm probs wont let me complle it does it have a .deb on their das?
[05:28] <intelikey> man  mkinitramfs
[05:28] <dr_willis> !java
[05:28] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:28] <abattoir> timi_: and, in your collection
[05:28] <dr_willis> For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:28] <timi_> it has the artists and then the tracks but the track informatin has the album and the track number and everyting
[05:29] <DaSkreech> xylus: sun-javv5-jre as far as I remember
[05:29] <rr72> who can help me save my printer?
[05:29] <kameronk> xylus: the sources.list file is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok thanks i'll try that
[05:29] <kameronk> you'll need to kdesu kate to open it
[05:30] <xylus> thx guys dr willis your like a well of knolidge sorry i get frustrateing sometimes i just cant handle the emmence hastle quite yet i need to get used to all these libs and stuff in my opinion kubuntu is one of the more dificult linux distrobutions lol only because of that but ill get the hang of this eventualy
[05:31] <dr_willis> compared to the hassles i have with windows on a daily basis... Linux is  lovely.
[05:31] <xylus> i miss redhat but bleh redhat is hmmm kinda glitchey atleast on this laptop
[05:31] <kameronk> xylus: or save it... you just have to uncomment all the repositories to get all the software
[05:31] <DaSkreech> xylus: You know you can search for anything you like on p.you.c right?
[05:31] <dr_willis> Ubuntu has been the BEST disrto ive tried on my laptops.
[05:31] <intelikey> scabootssca when you change the phisical address of a linux installation you have several thing that have to be adjusted.  /boot/initramfs*  &  /etc/fstab  & (/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/device.map   for grub) | (/etc/lilo.conf  for lilo)        and he's always in a hurry.....
[05:31] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: I had to use Windows today :( Dear lord
[05:31] <kameronk> xylus, do you know about apt-cache search?
[05:31] <xylus> lmfao whaaa windows is is mad easy you donwload a program for windows and thats it its installed and redy to go :P
[05:32] <xylus> thats why i dont like windows
[05:32] <nemo___> Does anyone know if it's possible to use Shoutcast TV, on any program
[05:32] <xylus> i wana get used to this
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Wouldn;t make a difference if he doesn't have multiverse
[05:32] <Dodger_> DaSkreech: many have to use it everyday :P
[05:32] <xylus> i used windows for 5 years got tired of it :( not verry customizeable
[05:32] <osiris> nemo___, i have been looking for an answer to that for years
[05:32] <kameronk> DaSkreech: yes, but if he doesn't know the package name, he can find it now
[05:32] <xylus> apt-cache search?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Winamp
[05:32] <intelikey> well krap!  make kernel crapped out.
[05:32] <xylus> nope i dont please enlighten me
[05:32] <rr72> DaSkreech~ please help me
[05:32] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/built-in.o: In function `setup_arch': undefined reference to `check_acpi_pci'
[05:32] <intelikey> make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1
[05:32] <Dodger_> i got annoyed with it the other day trying to figure out how the hell to make an actual symlink
[05:33] <Dodger_> *very* annoyed
[05:33] <nemo___> cant get wimamp to work in linux?
[05:33] <kameronk> xylus :yes apt-cache search keyword
[05:33] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Works like a beauty uder wine
[05:33] <xylus> whats a apt-cache do?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> wonder
[05:33] <DaSkreech> under :(
[05:33] <kameronk> !apt-cache
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-cache - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <nemo___> well It works under wine, but not the tv part just blank
[05:33] <DaSkreech> xylus: Do you use adept?
[05:34] <xylus> yes i have adept
[05:34] <rr72> my printer can't get a driver
[05:34] <kameronk> oh, duh, that's probably the easiest thing for him to do
[05:34] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Really? SHouldn't make a difference that's all server based
[05:34] <rr72> i get an error
[05:34] <xylus> p.you.c is that a website?
[05:34] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[05:34] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Are you In America?
[05:34] <nemo___> yes
[05:34] <DaSkreech> xylus: Yep packages.ubuntu.com
[05:34] <DaSkreech> rr72: Which Printer?
[05:34] <xylus> kk
[05:35] <DaSkreech> xylus: Do you have it open?
[05:35] <rr72> DaSkreech~ bjc-2000
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Canon?
[05:35] <rr72> if u read error it tell u in plain text
[05:35] <Dodger_> is there any way to get kpilot to start and hotsync when i plug my palm into USB?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Which error?
[05:35] <timi_> tso your amarok has the artis then album?
[05:35] <xylus> hold on daskreeech
 p.you.c is that a website?
 Unable to load the requested driver:
 Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nemo___: I heard that they started blocking the TV section to anyone not in the US. Some export law
[05:36] <nemo___> still works fine in windowz on my buddies pc
[05:36] <xylus> hmmm
[05:36] <xylus> im not sure what p.you.c is
[05:36] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Does it throw an error?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> xylus: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <xylus> i click dapper rite?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Sure
[05:37] <nemo___> nope. Media library works fie but when i go to  Shoutcast tv,  it's just blank, like it doesnt want to load
[05:37] <xylus> da skreech this is the list of all the files on the apt list?
[05:38] <timi_> im retarded
[05:38] <timi_> i figured it out
[05:38] <rr72> timi_~ compared to xylusu arent
[05:38] <rr72> im going
[05:38] <rr72> i will fix my printer tomorro
[05:38] <DaSkreech> rr72: Ok sorry I couldn't help
[05:38] <kameronk> xylus, yes, that is a categorized view
[05:39] <rr72> its all Agios fault
[05:39] <xylus> ok next to them it says universe multivers i know what that means
[05:39] <xylus> but why is it their ?
[05:39] <xylus> who cares if the program is universe or not
[05:39] <xylus> solong as it works
[05:39] <xylus> rite?
[05:39] <TokenBad> how do I mount a linux partition in kubuntu?
[05:39] <xylus> token
[05:40] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:40] <dr_willis> edit the fstab and mount it where ever ya want.
[05:40] <dr_willis> or use the mount command
[05:40] <xylus> nvm
[05:40] <PFl0yd> dr_willis: ya little more complex than that
[05:40] <xylus> lol dr beat me to it
[05:40] <PFl0yd> tho
[05:40] <dr_willis> Not really. :)
[05:40] <PFl0yd> wellll
[05:40] <DaSkreech> xylus: No the packages are kept in different sections
[05:40] <xylus> ok
[05:40] <PFl0yd> if you're a user you'd have to specify noauto,user
[05:40] <dr_willis> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hereyago
[05:40] <DaSkreech> xylus: Stuff in main is Ubuntu *blessed*
[05:40] <dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <TokenBad> that says for ubuntu...but how in kubuntu...
[05:40] <PFl0yd> stuff like that i meant
[05:41] <TokenBad> the commands are different
[05:41] <xylus> lol darskreech
[05:41] <kameronk> no, ubuntu and kubuntu are the same from the command line
[05:41] <dr_willis> a 'user'  mouning  an linux partition would be a little odd.. and they better have the  permissions right.
[05:41] <xylus> hmmm slowley understanding...
[05:41] <kameronk> they only differ in desktop environment
[05:41] <kameronk> kde vs. gnome
[05:41] <TokenBad> yes...but the mount thing from ubotu gives for gnome...not kde
[05:41] <xylus> ok what verse is gnome and what vers is kde?
[05:41] <PFl0yd> dr_willis: so if me as a 'user' throws in a usb stick
[05:41] <scabootssca> intelikey, it didnt work it says "mount: Mounting /dev/hdb1 on /root failed:  Invalid argument"
[05:41] <PFl0yd> that's not weird really
[05:42] <DaSkreech> xylus: Anything in universe is kept up to date by somebody but Ubuntu is not responsible for it
[05:42] <intelikey> scabootssca when you change the phisical address of a linux installation you have several thing that have to be adjusted.  /boot/initramfs*  &  /etc/fstab  & (/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/device.map   for grub) | (/etc/lilo.conf  for lilo)        and he's always in a hurry.....
[05:42] <kameronk> xylus, kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repositories
[05:42] <xylus> ok got it
[05:42] <TokenBad> yes...but the way to use the gui to get to set things are different
[05:42] <DaSkreech> xylus: Multiverse has things which are not really LInux friendly. They work but have restrictions that make them not welcome in the Open source world
[05:42] <kameronk> they are the same base system, they only differ in whether or not they have kde-desktop or gnome-desktop
[05:43] <TokenBad> but thats neither here nor there...
[05:43] <xylus> ok
[05:43] <DaSkreech> xylus: LIke Java. Which you will be able to get easy once you add multiverse :)
[05:43] <intelikey> scabootssca so try a chroot fix on the initramfs before you try another reboot.
[05:43] <xylus> so the verses are different places the programs are installed to kinda rite?
[05:43] <kameronk> if you use kubuntu you can easily install gnome by typing sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[05:43] <dr_willis> PFl0yd,  if that usb stick is a ext2 partition. its possibel that your user could mount it. but not be abvle to read/write to it.
[05:43] <xylus> u mean i dont have a multiverse allredy?
[05:43] <xylus> how do i add multiverse
[05:43] <DaSkreech> xylus: Nope
[05:43] <dr_willis> !easywource
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about easywource - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <dr_willis> !easysource
[05:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:44] <dr_willis> that site lets ya do it easially enough
[05:44] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > xylus
[05:44] <xylus> !multiverse
[05:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:44] <PFl0yd> dr_willis: yea it's prob. fat32 tho...
[05:44] <scabootssca> intelikey, like sudo chroot /linux mkinitramfs
[05:44] <xylus> ok ill read all that thanks daskreech for all yr help
[05:44] <PFl0yd> man i kinda wanna work for novell these days...
[05:44] <PFl0yd> http://novell.com
[05:44] <PFl0yd> they're all about linux now...
[05:44] <TokenBad> why would anyone want gnome if they installed kubuntu...all I wanted to know was how to mount a linux partition in kubuntu...
[05:44] <intelikey> scabootssca yep   man initramfs first.
[05:44] <DaSkreech> xylus: Sure. after a week tell me if Windows is hard to use ;-)
[05:44] <intelikey> err  mkinitramfs
[05:45] <scabootssca> ok it jumped about 8 lines
[05:45] <DaSkreech> TokenBad: What?
[05:45] <TokenBad> I tried using the disk manager...but it wouldn't let me mount it
[05:45] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: what kind of partition is it?
[05:45] <PFl0yd> ext2?
[05:45] <kameronk> i was just saying that it's trivial if one wanted to switch, and was pointing out how underneath it all, they are the same: ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, and xubuntu are all ubuntu base + desktop manager and more tools
[05:45] <scabootssca> intelikey, now "sudo chroot /linux intiramfs.img-<unamr -r>"?
[05:46] <PFl0yd> kameronk: ya and just raw debian isn't that much different of course either
[05:46] <PFl0yd> i switched from debian
[05:46] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, it just says linux
[05:47] <intelikey> sudo chroot /linux mkinitramfs -o intiramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386 2.6.15-26-386      <--- iirc.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> TokenBad: Where are you looking at it?
[05:47] <intelikey> scabootssca ^
[05:47] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: like you did an fdisk /dev/hdwhatever and it just says linux?
[05:47] <PFl0yd> er cfdisk actually
[05:48] <PFl0yd> that means it's ext2
[05:48] <PFl0yd> your line in fstab would be something like
[05:49] <ironfroggy> i have some documentation that is comprised of many html files. is there some way to print them all together?
[05:49] <PFl0yd>  /dev/hda1 /media/mountpoint ext2 user,noauto 0 0
[05:49] <PFl0yd> hda1 should be changed to the drive and partition you're talking about
[05:49] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i'm doing it
[05:49] <PFl0yd>  /media/mountpoint is where you want to mount it
[05:50] <scabootssca> ok done now what?
[05:50] <PFl0yd> and user,noauto means users can mount it and don't automatically mount it at boot
[05:50] <PFl0yd> (leave the noauto part out if you actually want it to auto mount at boot)
[05:50] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: You mean you want them in one file?
[05:50] <scabootssca> intelikey, i guess i restert now?
[05:51] <intelikey> scabootssca when that finishes  it should leave an initramfs.img*  in  /linux   move it to /linux/boot/    and run lilo again.       that assumes it completes correctly.
[05:51] <scabootssca> ok
[05:51] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: you get it?
[05:51] <intelikey> check the file size first.
[05:51] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, not yet
[05:51] <intelikey> if size is 0   it's a dud
[05:51] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: i dont care if they are in one file, i just want them printed in proper order and without more pagebreaks between the individual files would be nice too.
[05:52] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: k
[05:52] <PFl0yd> well google can help too
[05:52] <intelikey> : > 0
[05:52] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok there is a .img file there how do i move it? cp whatever whatever?
[05:52] <intelikey> yep
[05:52] <intelikey> or mv
[05:53] <xylus> skreech u here bro
[05:53] <xylus> ?
[05:53] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, its not working...its not telling me what it is...
[05:53] <xylus> my adept program dosent have manage repositorys listed under the adept tab
[05:53] <DaSkreech> xylus: Yeah
[05:53] <DaSkreech> xylus: What does it have?
[05:53] <xylus> quit
[05:53] <xylus> that is all
[05:53] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: I'd cat them together
[05:53] <scabootssca> ok it's there now
[05:54] <DaSkreech> xylus: What other menus do you have?
[05:54] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i moved it
[05:54] <xylus> edit view settings and help
[05:54] <intelikey> and sudo chroot /linux lilo
[05:54] <intelikey> ?
[05:54] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: well its off a website. i was hoping to avoid manually downloading them all.
[05:55] <intelikey> scabootssca check the file name against lilo.conf  make sure you are pointing at the new initramfs file
[05:55] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Erm.. Ok So You wanted to print them all off the net at once?
[05:55] <intelikey> dubble checking is a lot easier than rebooting.
[05:55] <ironfroggy> yes.
[05:55] <DaSkreech> xylus: What's under edit?
[05:56] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, its ext3
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: I honestly don't know of a way without a curl or wget haack
[05:56] <scabootssca> it still has that raid thing
[05:56] <intelikey> does it error out ?
[05:56] <xylus> undu redu thats it
[05:56] <scabootssca> it does exactly what it did before
[05:56] <intelikey> pastebin
[05:57] <xylus> earlier i did this perhaps i skrewed up my adept here check it out
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: :-|
[05:57] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: ok i thought there might be a nice tool for grabbing multi-page documentation and preparing them for print.
[05:57] <xylus> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list del the list
[05:57] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: That would be curl but if you knew curl you wouldn't be asking :)
[05:57] <PFl0yd> when you do like
[05:57] <xylus> and put in one off a website
[05:57] <PFl0yd> mount /media/mountpoint
[05:57] <xylus> would that skrew up my adept ?
[05:57] <PFl0yd> what's it say?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: Right
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: o
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: no
[05:58] <xylus> ok
[05:58] <intelikey> scabootssca lets get it right this time.    i don't want to have to talk to you again tonight.     ;)
[05:58] <xylus> hmmm all good ill try and do it using the terminal rather than looking for manage reposotorys
[05:58] <xylus> thx man
[05:58] <kameronk> xylus: have you tried installing wine and using a windows version of limewire?
[05:58] <scabootssca> intelikey,  http://pastebin.ca/100434
[05:58] <DaSkreech> xylus: sure
[05:59] <PFl0yd> limewire?
[05:59] <scabootssca> see exactley like before
[05:59] <xylus> lol if i cant install lime because of dependencys than wine probs wont work actualy ide rather just use soemthing else
[05:59] <PFl0yd> just use gift and the fasttrack plugin :)
[05:59] <xylus> knwo of any other p2p porograms for linux i can get off the apt kame?
[05:59] <PFl0yd> apt-get install apollon
[06:00] <scabootssca> xylus, you can use frostwire
[06:00] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: getting the files is only part of the problem
[06:00] <kameronk> windows software dosen't have dependencies
[06:00] <xylus> cool apt get frostwire?
[06:00] <xylus> geared ill try it out
[06:00] <xylus> no but i bet wine does
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !frostwire > xylus
[06:00] <Kr4t05> xylus: I don't think frostwire is in the repos.
[06:00] <xylus> i have 0 exp with using window emulators
[06:00] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Not true they do
[06:00] <intelikey> scabootssca sudo mount proc /linux/proc -t proc && sudo chroot /linux/lilo && umount /linux/proc
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !limewire
[06:00] <scabootssca> do those?
[06:00] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:01] <kameronk> well, they do, but wine has that covered
[06:01] <intelikey> one line ^  everything after your name
[06:01] <xylus> so all i need to do is get my head around these repositorys and how to manage them
[06:01] <ironfroggy> anyway, i actually found a single file version, but im having trouble printing it. ive seen this before tho, it seems like html files ignore the "odd pages only" option when i want to print them, or at least that is what i see in the print preview. is there some way to print only odd pages of an html file from konq?
[06:01] <xylus> and i can pretymuch install anything ?
[06:01] <xylus> because the list i see right now is kinda small
[06:01] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, got it figured out...
[06:01] <DaSkreech> xylus: Most things
[06:01] <xylus> but i think my adept is running off the main repo
[06:01] <xylus> i wana switch it to universe
[06:01] <DaSkreech> xylus: very likely
[06:01] <xylus> so i can see more programs XD
[06:01] <kameronk> if you update your sources.list, it will all start to work
[06:01] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: :-( Sorry not sure
[06:01] <kameronk> you may have to apt-get update
[06:01] <xylus> ill try that
[06:02] <xylus> jsut a sec kame ;)
[06:02] <kameronk> or sudo apt-get update
[06:02] <DaSkreech> xylus: Don't forget to reload in adept :)
[06:02] <intelikey> scabootssca if it doesn't say  adding linux*   windows   then it's erroring out.
[06:02] <xylus> ok done update
[06:02] <xylus> i try opening add remove programs now
[06:02] <scabootssca> it's erroring then i'm pasting it on pastebin
[06:02] <DaSkreech> xylus: Woah You were using add/remove programs?
[06:02] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100437
[06:03] <xylus> yeah isent that the adept manager?
[06:03] <xylus> it says adept at the top
[06:03] <DaSkreech> xylus: Not quite :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> xylus: But go ahead
[06:03] <xylus> aww how should i go about it than captin!
[06:03] <kameronk> yes, in the KMenu, the Add/Remove Programs option opens Adept
[06:03] <DaSkreech> xylus: Alt+Enter -> type adept -> Press enter
[06:03] <scabootssca> intelikey, because for some reason the windows dtrive stopped working as a slave
[06:04] <xylus> alt enter does nothing
[06:04] <intelikey> scabootssca sudo umount /proc   and rerun that string.
[06:04] <kameronk> xylus, once you get used to the command line apt-get and apt-cache, it's much quicker than adept
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Alt+Space sorry
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Whoops
[06:04] <qwertybob> need help bad, i cant boot error is ... target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init
[06:04] <kameronk> unless you just want generic software for something, and want the category view
[06:04] <qwertybob> ive booted using knoppix
[06:04] <xylus> kk what is apt cache anyway?
[06:04] <xylus> simple explanation will do i jsut wnaa know what it does
[06:05] <intelikey> i guess windows xp can only live on hda1   poor poor winxp  so weak    so lame....
[06:05] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says device is busy
[06:05] <xylus> lmfao intel i dont even have windows on my system
[06:05] <DaSkreech> xylus: When you update it downloads all the information about the programs that are available
[06:05] <xylus> kk and the cache?
[06:05] <intelikey> scabootssca lets try another approach   one liner comming...
[06:06] <DaSkreech> xylus: It caches them locally. Apt-cache allows you to search the cache for things even if you are not on the net
[06:06] <kameronk> xylus, among other things, apt-cache search will allow you to search for the package name
[06:06] <xylus> ok so i type apt-cache ummm xchat for instance
[06:06] <qwertybob> is there a way to update ubuntu while in knoppix i read it might be a udev bug or something?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> So you can check on things
[06:06] <xylus> and ittel find it for me?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> apt-cache search xchat
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:06] <kameronk> yeah
[06:06] <xylus> kk ill try it with frostwire
[06:06] <intelikey> sudo chroot /linux mount proc /proc -t proc
[06:07] <DaSkreech> xylus: tried alt+space ?
[06:07] <intelikey> scabootssca tell me what that does.
[06:07] <xylus> hmm nothing happen when i type sudo apt-cache frostwire
[06:07] <DaSkreech> xylus: read !frostwire
[06:07] <xylus> dident expect anythign to
[06:07] <xylus> but still
[06:07] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[06:07] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Read that page
[06:07] <xylus> kk thx daskreech
[06:08] <DaSkreech> You can't install frostwire
[06:08] <kameronk> you don't need to sudo, and you just type "apt-cache search frostwire"
[06:08] <intelikey> xylus ... search ....
[06:08] <scabootssca> intelikey, says then "mount: proc already mounted
[06:08] <scabootssca> " then "ubuntu@dsl-gerl-135-103:~$ DaSkreech xylus: tried alt+space ?
[06:08] <scabootssca> "
[06:08] <xylus> no sudo gotcha
[06:08] <xylus> i tryed alt space
[06:08] <xylus> dose nothing
[06:08] <kameronk> xylus, it won't help, but it won't hurt
[06:08] <xylus> nvm
[06:08] <DaSkreech> scabootssca: Eh?
[06:08] <xylus> whats a katapult lol
[06:08] <DaSkreech> xylus: Type adept
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info katapult
[06:08] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.2-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 264 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[06:08] <kameronk> !katapult
[06:08] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[06:08] <intelikey> scabootssca something is hosed there... does  ls /linux/proc   show anything ?
[06:08] <dr_willis> :)
[06:08] <xylus> whaaaa geared
[06:09] <DaSkreech> xylus: You can open nearly any application or song like that :)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Sweet :)
[06:09] <xylus> lol that katapult is the coolest shortcut ive ever sceen!
[06:09] <xylus> man thats pimped
[06:09] <xylus> lol
[06:09] <xylus> it scanns for names in like a instant
[06:09] <DaSkreech> xylus: It's gonna get better man Wait till you see the stuff they are working on
[06:09] <xylus> impressive
[06:09] <xylus> realy?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> xylus: Want to see something even cooler?
[06:09] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says http://pastebin.ca/100444
[06:09] <xylus> sure
[06:09] <dr_willis> and here i am still using WindowMaker. :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Alt+Space -> 2+2
[06:10] <xylus> haha wtf cool
[06:10] <intelikey> whoa !
[06:10] <DaSkreech> 2^36
[06:10] <dr_willis> alt+space -> porn   -> goes to www.biguns.com :)
[06:10] <intelikey> scabootssca pastebin the output of mount
[06:10] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: that's just your computer :)
[06:10] <dr_willis> alt+space ->  100/0  ->  ?
[06:10] <dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <xylus> man thats awesome
[06:11] <xylus> neet
[06:11] <supernix> Uptime: 1 days, 6 hours and 14 minutes
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Mine goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haifa_Wehbe
[06:11] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[06:11] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100446
[06:11] <DaSkreech> xylus: In any case open adept and see if you can manage repos now
[06:12] <xylus> yes i can!
[06:12] <xylus> awesome
[06:12] <xylus> ill read the rest of that tut u sent me
[06:12] <xylus> and figure out how to manage them now :)\
[06:12] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Dude
[06:12] <DaSkreech> kameronk: See? :)
[06:12] <abattoir> DaSkreech: hi :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> add/remove != adept
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Though it is adept based ;-)
[06:13] <xylus> yeah the real adept is alt space adept
[06:13] <xylus> thats what i needed to get to
[06:13] <xylus> the add remove programs is like a basic version
[06:13] <intelikey> scabootssca your system is doing strange things...   it errored out and yet mounted the fs in the same breath....  not normal...     anyway lets try one more time the  sudo chroot /linux lilo    command.
[06:13] <xylus> of the adept
[06:13] <abattoir> Kmenu->System->Package manager
[06:13] <scabootssca> intelikey, same raid error
[06:13] <kameronk> DaSkreech: see what?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> xylus: Yup
[06:13] <xylus> ok under manage repositorys
[06:14] <intelikey> scabootssca second....
[06:14] <xylus> a big list of http addresses is their
[06:14] <xylus> should i jsut slect them all for every downloadable program?
[06:14] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Add/remove is like a dumbed down adept. Pretty useful but not really useful
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Wait that made no sense
[06:14] <kameronk> oh ok
[06:14] <abattoir> hehe
[06:14] <DaSkreech> xylus: Huh?
[06:14] <DaSkreech> xylus: Look for one that has universe
[06:14] <xylus> under repository manager
[06:15] <kameronk> (honestly, i just use adept to update packages automatically... to install i use Konsole and apt-get)
[06:15] <xylus> how do i make it so i can see every downloadable program
[06:15] <xylus> rather than just the ones in main
[06:15] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Why don't you just cron job apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> xylus: Do you see a line with the word universe in it?
[06:15] <xylus> nope i see new repository tho
[06:16] <Frederick> folks does kubuntu has any command to auto-configure internet acess?
[06:16] <abattoir> hmmm, my computer is completely screwed up... all i can now do is speak w/ you guys here or do a hard restart... nothing else :)
[06:16] <DaSkreech> xylus: ok can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[06:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:16] <xylus> hard restart=coldboot
[06:16] <kameronk> DaSkreech: i could do that, but adept tells me automatically, so i don't bother
[06:16] <DaSkreech> abattoir: So it works fine then!!
[06:16] <xylus> sure how do i register so i can pm u daskreech
[06:16] <abattoir> DaSkreech: hehe, indeed :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !register
[06:17] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:17] <DaSkreech> abattoir: What the problem?
[06:17] <Hawkwind> !register < xylus
[06:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about register < xylus - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:17] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhh
[06:17] <abattoir> DaSkreech: now i cant even see your messages, unless i highlight them
[06:17] <xylus> lol i just need the command\ /nickserv register or something
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Nice redirect
[06:17] <Frederick> after the last package updates I got connectionless any ideas?
[06:17] <abattoir> DaSkreech: pbuilder
[06:17] <DaSkreech> abattoir: eek
[06:17] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Heh, thanks :P
[06:17] <intelikey> scabootssca add to the lilo command   -F
[06:17] <xylus> ./nickserv register password email?
[06:17] <Hawkwind> xylus: /msg nickserv help register
[06:17] <DaSkreech> xylus: Sure why not :)
[06:17] <Hawkwind> xylus: Then follow the information
[06:18] <Hobbsee> !register > Hawkwind
[06:18] <abattoir> DaSkreech: gives me a 'bus' error, and then everything fails.... 'sudo' gives input output error, everything else i get command not found :)
[06:18] <Hobbsee> abattoir: what'd you do?
[06:18] <scabootssca> like "sudo chroot /linux lilo -F
[06:18] <scabootssca> "?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> That would wake up Hobbsee
[06:18] <abattoir> Hobbsee: nothing, just 'sudo pbuilder create'
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee *waves*
[06:18] <Hobbsee> abattoir: ahh
[06:18] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[06:19] <abattoir> Hobbsee: first it didnt even create the base.tgz, i asked for your help... but then managed to figure it out
[06:19] <scabootssca> intelikey,  like "sudo chroot /linux lilo -F
[06:19] <intelikey> yep
[06:20] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: you got the > around the wrong way - you want the command to go to you, not from you, to the command
[06:20] <scabootssca> exact same errotr as sudo chroot /linux lilo
[06:20] <Hobbsee> abattoir: yeah, i was afk, sorry - had my away set and everything :P
[06:20] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: I know, I'm half asleep and typo'd :P
[06:20] <xylus> skreech
[06:20] <xylus> check yr pm tab!
[06:20] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: But the bot should read my mind and know what I want anyways
[06:20] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:20] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: :P
[06:20] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: well, yeah
[06:20] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: that'd be nice.
[06:21] <Hawkwind> I thought smackin him might make him do such thing
[06:21] <intelikey> scabootssca ?
[06:21] <abattoir> hmm, now when i build w/ pbuilder, all hell breaks loose :D
[06:21] <DaSkreech> xylus: I am ! It's empty!
[06:21] <scabootssca> ? what
[06:22] <xylus> hmm
[06:22] <intelikey>  -P  ignore
[06:22] <xylus> wrong dascreech than
[06:22] <intelikey> add that ^
[06:22] <xylus> pm me skreech
[06:22] <abattoir> :'(
[06:22] <DaSkreech> xylus: I am
[06:22] <Hobbsee> abattoir: want to pastebin what happens when you run sudo pbuilder update?
[06:22] <xylus> nothing
[06:22] <xylus> odd
[06:23] <xylus> lolz
[06:23] <xylus> why cant i get or send a pm to u
[06:23] <scabootssca> intelikey, "sudo chroot /linux lilo -P
[06:23] <scabootssca> "
[06:23] <kameronk> xylus, i need to register first
[06:23] <xylus> lol kk
[06:23] <Steven_> Is java 1.5 avalible for dapper?
[06:24] <intelikey>  -P  ignore
[06:24] <Hawkwind> !info java
[06:24] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in dapper
[06:24] <Hawkwind> !info sun-java
[06:24] <ubotu> Package sun-java does not exist in dapper
[06:24] <Hawkwind> !info sun-java5-bin
[06:24] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[06:24] <Hawkwind> Steven_: ^^^^
[06:25] <thilak> is there something like Snagit for kubuntu ?
[06:25] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100455
[06:26] <intelikey> i don't want to see that.    use  -P ignore
[06:26] <scabootssca> check the bottom
[06:26] <abattoir> Hobbsee: ever heard of a problem like this? w/ pbuilder?
[06:27] <Hobbsee> abattoir: hmmm....
[06:27] <Hobbsee> abattoir: no, but i have had problems with it at all
[06:27] <abattoir> Hobbsee: you mean you havent have problems w/ it at all?
[06:27] <abattoir> *havent have had
[06:28] <intelikey> scabootssca pastebin    stat /dev/hda
[06:28] <Hobbsee> abattoir: well, some, but i think they were pebkac errors - see pm
[06:28] <Ertain> Crap, I thought the screensaver problem was fixed in the latest kdelibs update.
[06:28] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hmm, i wonder how you switch tabs in irssi :P
[06:29] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100460
[06:29] <Hawkwind> abattoir: alt 1 alt 2 and so on :P
[06:29] <Hobbsee> abattoir: /win number, or alt+1-0,q-p
[06:29] <abattoir> Hawkwind: thanks :-D
[06:29] <crimsun> Hobbsee: which unfortunately is not too effective once you get past nineteen windows
[06:30] <crimsun> (I have seventy-six atm)
[06:30] <intelikey> i think it just dawned on me scabootssca
[06:30] <intelikey> scabootssca pastebin    stat /linux/dev/hda
[06:30] <intelikey> the device node is missing    no ?
[06:30] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ouch
[06:31] <Steven_> thanks Hawkwind
[06:31] <scabootssca> no file or directory
[06:31] <scabootssca> intelikey, "stat: cannot stat `/linux/dev/hda': No such file or directory
[06:31] <scabootssca> "
[06:32] <intelikey> that's why it cant install a boot loader there is no device node....    ok  sudo chroot /linux
[06:32] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here avalible to help me out with partitioning?
[06:32] <intelikey> that will give you a root bash shell on the installed system
[06:32] <scabootssca> ok
[06:32] <scabootssca> done
[06:32] <DaSkreech> xylus: So you good?
[06:32] <xylus> yeah cuz
[06:32] <xylus> im prety good
[06:32] <xylus> just workin things over atm
[06:32] <intelikey> scabootssca next mknode /dev/hda b 3 0
[06:33] <xylus> ima try and install a p2p program using the adept manager
[06:33] <intelikey> scabootssca next     mknode /dev/hda b 3 0
[06:33] <xylus> if it works than sweet XD
[06:33] <DaSkreech> xylus: Did you read !frostwire?
[06:33] <intelikey> scabootssca  ls /dev/hda
[06:33] <intelikey> node there ?
[06:34] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here avalible to help me out with partitioning?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> !parted
[06:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about parted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:35] <scabootssca> intelikey, whenever i try it says "bash: mknode: command not found
[06:35] <scabootssca> "
[06:35] <intelikey> scabootssca  . /etc/profile
[06:35] <DaSkreech> !mount
[06:35] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:35] <intelikey> and try again.
[06:35] <DaSkreech> !mount > wckdkl0wn
[06:36] <wckdkl0wn> i am talking about partitioning during install
[06:36] <intelikey> scabootssca that is  with the dot   '. /etc/profile '
[06:36] <wckdkl0wn> so i can keep my windows partition as well
[06:36] <wckdkl0wn> dual boot the system
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Ah Ok what do you need to know?
[06:37] <scabootssca> ok i type ". /etc/profile
[06:37] <scabootssca> " and then type "mknode /dev/hda b 3 0
[06:37] <scabootssca> " and " it says "bash: mknode: command not found
[06:37] <scabootssca> "
[06:37] <xylus> !frostwire
[06:37] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:37] <DaSkreech> xylus: Later man
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Oh xylus check something for me
[06:38] <intelikey> scabootssca oh no e  mknod
[06:38] <wckdkl0wn> i have 2 30 gig partitions i want to save and a blank 170 gig partition i want to make for linux.. i tryed to hide the 2 i wanted to save with the installer and make the 170 into 2 partitions one for swap and the other for /
[06:38] <intelikey> sorry my bad
[06:38] <wckdkl0wn> but for some reason the installer locks up on creating partitions
[06:38] <intelikey> hehhe it's late.
[06:38] <xylus> sure btw i typed frostwire in search under adept manager and got jack
[06:38] <wckdkl0wn> is there something i am doing wrong?
[06:38] <xylus> what did u want me to check
[06:38] <DaSkreech> xylus: Right read the page!!
[06:38] <scabootssca> ok theres a hda now
[06:38] <intelikey> lilo
[06:38] <DaSkreech> xylus: See if you have sun-java5-jre in adept
[06:39] <DaSkreech> wckdkl0wn: Tell me what you did
[06:39] <intelikey> scabootssca and it said ?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> You tried to "hide" the partitions?
[06:39] <scabootssca> intelikey, it said theres no hda1
[06:39] <xylus> its installed now
[06:39] <intelikey> k we'll make them all.
[06:39] <xylus> just got it off adept
[06:39] <wckdkl0wn> the installer said something about unmounting partitions i dont want deleted or something like that
[06:40] <scabootssca> intelikey, thers only hda shouldnt there bne a bunch of others?
[06:40] <intelikey> scabootssca mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[06:40] <scabootssca> intelikey, i think there was before
[06:40] <intelikey> scabootssca mknod /dev/hdb b 3 64
[06:40] <intelikey> scabootssca mknod /dev/hdb1 b 3 65
[06:41] <Ertain> Does anyone know if the screensaver problem has been fixed in the latest kdelibs?
[06:41] <intelikey> then lilo again and it should work.
[06:41] <scabootssca> intelikey, now it needs hda2
[06:41] <wckdkl0wn> i installed ubuntu a while back and had it dual boot no problem
[06:41] <DaSkreech> xylus: Ok download frostwire and you can just run it :)
[06:41] <intelikey> no it shouldn't even look at hda2
[06:41] <wckdkl0wn> why did kubuntu change everything?
[06:41] <intelikey> there is no mention of it in your lilo.conf
[06:41] <scabootssca> it wants it
[06:41] <DaSkreech> wckdkl0wn: Umm.. Ok  It didn't
[06:42] <DaSkreech> It uses the same installer
[06:42] <DaSkreech> You have Ubuntu installed?
[06:42] <wckdkl0wn> used to
[06:42] <intelikey> scabootssca error ?
[06:42] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100468
[06:42] <wckdkl0wn> but kubuntu wants to install from teh live cd
[06:43] <DaSkreech> wckdkl0wn: If you prefer you can get the Alternate CD for a "normal" install
[06:43] <intelikey> scabootssca umount /proc
[06:43] <scabootssca> ok i did
[06:43] <intelikey> try lilo again
[06:43] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: good morning :)
[06:44] <intelikey> this is where we should have hours ago when we first started.
[06:44] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100470
[06:44] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Yo!
[06:44] <DaSkreech> wckdkl0wn: Would that help?
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Mornin' abattoir and DaSkreech
[06:44] <intelikey> scabootssca ok so add it.
[06:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Not to forget intelikey or course...
[06:45] <scabootssca> how?
[06:45] <timi_> besides the fact amarok won tplay an audio cd its a pretty amazing player
[06:45] <intelikey> scabootssca sec
[06:46] <xylus> nyone know why my sunjava 5 jre is suck during install from the adept manager?
[06:46] <xylus> i click on show and i see a agreement
[06:46] <DaSkreech> xylus: Ahhh! I hate that
[06:46] <xylus> but no  buttens and its stuck on 28 pct
[06:46] <Cntryboy> what yahoo client is flood protection proof ect.. Gaim and gyach both gets booted easyyy.
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Those others didn't greet me personally...
[06:46] <xylus> lol yeah know how to fix er bro?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> xylus: Umm there is a way to fix that but the fast way is to do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre from the command line
[06:47] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: :-)
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a reason why any changes I make to my menu.lst of GRUB don't get applied?
[06:47] <xylus> k how do i stop the current installation?
[06:47] <intelikey> scabootssca echo "     disk=/dev/hdb inaccessible" >> /etc/lilo.conf
[06:47] <intelikey> one line ^
[06:48] <DaSkreech> xylus: Ermm Close adept?
[06:48] <xylus> lol
[06:48] <xylus> im one setp ahead of ya
[06:48] <xylus> i didetn see a cancel butten
[06:48] <xylus> so i just said fawlk it and closed adept
[06:48] <xylus> noooooooooooOOO!
[06:49] <xylus> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:49] <xylus> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:49] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i did it now i'll try lilo again
[06:49] <Tsed> MilhousePunkRock: Did you run update-grub after writing the changes?
[06:49] <Cntryboy> what yahoo client is flood protection proof ect.. Gaim and gyach both gets booted easyyy.
[06:49] <xylus> look@!
[06:49] <xylus> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:49] <xylus> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:49] <xylus> last time i gotr that error
[06:49] <xylus> i was never able to use adept again
[06:49] <karl> xylus: run it as root?
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Once I did, another time I didn't... Didn't make a difference
[06:49] <xylus> and had to reinstall kubuntu lol
[06:49] <xylus> yeah i ran as sudo
[06:50] <Cntryboy> xylus: are you sudo get-apt a proggy also?
[06:50] <xylus> no
[06:50] <Cntryboy> apt-get rather
[06:50] <DaSkreech> xylus: ha ha ha :)
[06:50] <xylus> i just closed a half installation tho
[06:50] <timi_> anyone know how to make kubuntu recognize dual core
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Cntryboy: Isn't there an option in the Yahoo protocol to only accept messages from people on your list?
[06:50] <Hawkwind> xylus: Remove the lock file and then re-run it
[06:50] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok now it says -> http://pastebin.ca/100476
[06:50] <DaSkreech> xylus:  try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:50] <intelikey> scabootssca i don't think we want that.  linux is on hdb now....   something about that smells of fish.....
[06:50] <Hawkwind> timi_: Use the linux-686 kernel
[06:50] <Cntryboy> I got that error when i was trying to sudo apt-get a proggy while going to adept so i dunno sorry
[06:50] <DaSkreech> xylus: Do mine first!! :)
[06:51] <timi_> hawkind what does that mean
[06:51] <Hawkwind> xylus: You should NEVER close something like Adept when it's doing something
[06:51] <Hawkwind> timi_: Means install the proper kernerl
[06:51] <xylus> lol their was no cancel butten
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Not much choice
[06:51] <Hawkwind> s/kernerl/kernel
[06:51] <xylus> and the install was stuck on 28
[06:51] <xylus> so i quit it
[06:51] <xylus> and now i cant use adept lolz
[06:51] <DaSkreech> The Java install borks adept
[06:51] <xylus> their realy should be a cancel butten :(
[06:51] <Cntryboy> milhousePunkRock: well yah but it's not working they still get through
[06:51] <timi_> hawk type that in the console right
[06:51] <DaSkreech> xylus: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:51] <xylus> how do i remove the lock file that command u gave me dosent work
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> timi_: Open adept and look for linux-kernel-image-686
[06:51] <Hawkwind> timi_: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[06:51] <intelikey> scabootssca why is it trying to open hdb ???  pastebin /etc/lilo.conf one more time   something we have missed....
[06:51] <DaSkreech> xylus: that doesn't work?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> timi_: That should install the new kernel, then reboot to it if it installed
[06:52] <intelikey> scabootssca i can see hdb1  but not hdb......
[06:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Cntryboy: I use all other protocols except Yahoo, and I don't have those problems...
[06:52] <xylus> ok nvm
[06:52] <xylus> it works
[06:52] <xylus> it says database is locked by another process
[06:52] <karl> anyone know how to change down mouse sensativity?
[06:52] <Cntryboy> what do you use
[06:52] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok http://pastebin.ca/100478
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> MSN, AIM, ICQ, GoogleTalk (via Jabber) and XFire
[06:53] <Cntryboy> I mean what is the proggy you use to run those though
[06:53] <DaSkreech> xylus: Sooo it doesn't work?
[06:53] <scabootssca> intelikey, it changed itslf!!
[06:53] <Cntryboy> gaim?
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir... Did you flee when you saw me?
[06:53] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I use Gaim and haven't been booted off the servers in months.  Mine never goes down
[06:54] <xylus> says status database are is locked by another process skreech
[06:54] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, no, i really couldnt do anything else.. believe me :)
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Cntryboy: Yes, because GAIM is the only one that is capable of XFire
[06:54] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: this person was booting me left and right dissing me from yahoo server over and over,, I can't even log on it lol
[06:54] <intelikey> scabootssca ok  i see it.     nano /etc/lilo.conf  and take out these lines   "    7. root=/dev/hdb"    "   21.      disk=/dev/hdb inaccessible
[06:54] <intelikey>    22.      disk=/dev/hdb inaccessible
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Suspend still doesn't work, I was close to compiling and patching my own kernel...
[06:54] <Hawkwind> That's yahoo for ya.  Bunch of script kiddes
[06:54] <Cntryboy> milhousepunkrock: where at in gaim can i select do not accept pm
[06:55] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmm but would doing that make sure it'd work?
[06:55] <intelikey> it wont need that when the root= is removed.
[06:55] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: ya, it sucks there now but I was bored
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> There is a kernel patch, called Suspend2
[06:55] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: tbh, its a really frustrating process if it doesnt work at the end
[06:55] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: looks like though linux would have something stronger though unlike windows bs
[06:55] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: wasnt that what i showed you the other day? you told it was suspend to disk right?
[06:56] <scabootssca> how do i get out of it?
[06:56] <robbrown> hey guys, can someone give me an opinion?: is this file corrupt/broken?: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/harvest/harvest-1.9.9.tar.bz2
[06:56] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I've never had such an issue with Gaim, ever.  Been using it for 5+ years
[06:56] <intelikey> scabootssca you can change the menu-title if you like.
[06:56] <MilhousePunkRock> I said I was close to... Google was my friend, someone compiled a vanilla kubuntu kernel with the patch already
[06:56] <intelikey> ctrl X
[06:56] <scabootssca> intelikey, how do i use the commands
[06:56] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, cool :)
[06:56] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: is there an option to not accept pms though with gaim?
[06:56] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: I did a little more research on it, it can do STR too
[06:57] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: that's good to hear :)
[06:57] <intelikey> scabootssca ctrl+K   is cut the present line   and  ctrl+x   is exit.  it will ask about saving
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Not that I know of.  I only use Gaim for Gtalk now days
[06:57] <scabootssca> say yes to saving
[06:58] <intelikey> scabootssca yes  and there is a help window at the bottom of nano.
[06:58] <Cntryboy> well that is lame, I remember a friending having in the old days some yahoo client that was all command written and you couldn't flood it
[06:58] <scabootssca> ok done
[06:58] <Cntryboy> friend rather<----stoned lol
[06:58] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Now I only need to add a line to my menu.lst that just won't stay in there...
[06:58] <intelikey> scabootssca and lilo says what now ?
[06:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: for the new kernel?
[06:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: the file isnt save? that's weird
[06:59] <robbrown> could someone give me a hand? i have a feeling this archive is corrupt but i don't know: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/harvest/harvest-1.9.9.tar.bz2
[06:59] <karl> anyone know how to change down mouse sensativity?
[06:59] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100482
[06:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: else while booting in grub, you can specify the kernel path, parameters etc... in grub itself
[06:59] <MilhousePunkRock> No, abattoir, that got added automatically... Something like resume2=swap:/dev/hda5
[07:00] <robbrown> i can't seem to uncompress it
[07:00] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm wonder why it doesnt stick
[07:00] <robbrown> and i'm wondering if its just me...
[07:00] <intelikey> how do you do this scabootssca..... ive never had any real trubble with lilo.... ?
[07:00] <scabootssca> unlucky
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: What does "harvest" do?
[07:00] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: didnt you add something similar for the normal kernel the other day? when i gave you the link for the X<something> ?
[07:00] <scabootssca> +inexperienced
[07:00] <intelikey> scabootssca ls /dev/hdb
[07:01] <scabootssca> yes there is one
[07:01] <intelikey> we did make a device nod for that
[07:01] <intelikey> ok   add -l  to that   ls -l /dev/hdb
[07:01] <timi> hey hawk, when i rebooted there was no grub for me to choose
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Now that you say it, yes, I think so.. Seems like that also never stuck in there...
[07:01] <robbrown> harvest is a search engine more or less
[07:01] <intelikey> what it say ?
[07:01] <timi> does it just automatically load the new kernel
[07:01] <intelikey> paste it here.
[07:02] <ubuntu__> paano sumali sa pag-develop ng kubuntu?
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: Did you try another mirror at sourceforge already?
[07:02] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: weird, you edited /boot/grub/menu.lst as root right?
[07:02] <scabootssca> intelikey, brw-r--r-- 1 root root 3, 6 2006-07-25 23:41 /dev/hdb
[07:02] <intelikey> scabootssca rm it
[07:02] <scabootssca> ?
[07:02] <intelikey> you hosed it.
[07:02] <intelikey> scabootssca rm /dev/hdb
[07:02] <scabootssca> i what?
[07:02] <robbrown> milhousepunkrock: no... good idea :)
[07:03] <scabootssca> i killed it
[07:03] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  ls -l /dev/hdb
[07:03] <intelikey> 0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 64 2006-07-21 15:28 /dev/hdb
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes, abattoir... Now I know why the resolution I changed there last week never worked too...
[07:03] <intelikey> it's 64  not 6
[07:03] <DaSkreech> !frostwire > xylus
[07:03] <xylus> !frostwire
[07:03] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:03] <scabootssca> tty3 [greg$~]  ls -l /dev/hdb dosnt work
[07:04] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, check if it sticks immediately after you save it
[07:04] <intelikey> scabootssca we make another one (assuming you rm'd it)  mknod /dev/hdb b 3 64
[07:04] <robbrown> tried another mirror, still *seems* buggered
[07:04] <timi> whats the directory for the startup folder
[07:04] <timi> i need to remove superkaramba from it
[07:04] <scabootssca> ya it's gone
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: OK, but let me look up the _exact_ parameter I need
[07:05] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i made a new one
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: One minute then I will try it myself
[07:05] <scabootssca> lilo now?
[07:05] <intelikey> yes
[07:05] <robbrown> thanks mil :)
[07:05] <timi> hey installed a new kernel or something
[07:06] <intelikey> if it's a new error just give me the one line that changed.
[07:06] <timi> when i restarted does it automatically boot into the new kernel
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Night  all
[07:06] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100488
[07:06] <abattoir> DaSkreech: good night :)
[07:07] <intelikey> well that should be obvious      5. Fatal: open /boot/intird.img-2.6.15-26-386: No such file or directory
[07:07] <leorss> mulheres n usam kubuntu?
[07:07] <scabootssca> but there is one
[07:08] <intelikey> ls /boot/intird.img*
[07:08] <scabootssca> it dosnt think so but i see one
[07:08] <intelikey> i'm thinking you see intiramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386
[07:08] <scabootssca> i se both
[07:09] <intelikey> nano /etc/lilo and make it intiramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386   if that exists in /boot
[07:09] <intelikey> hold
[07:09] <intelikey> scabootssca
[07:09] <scabootssca> ya
[07:10] <intelikey> is intird.img-2.6.15-26-386  a link ?
[07:10] <intelikey> ls -l /boot/initrd*
[07:10] <scabootssca> how do i tell? it's 6.5 mb though
[07:10] <scabootssca> it says gz on it
[07:10] <scabootssca> on the icon
[07:11] <intelikey> on.  run the command   ls -l /boot/initrd*
[07:11] <scabootssca> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6765622 2006-07-25 02:12 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
[07:11] <scabootssca> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6774097 2006-07-25 02:12 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
[07:12] <intelikey> hmmm and there is an initramfs  that you made eariler  correct ?
[07:12] <xylus> !limewire
[07:12] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:12] <scabootssca> intelikey, yes
[07:12] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: It's in the line "kernel" isnt it?
[07:12] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes, unless it says otherwise
[07:12] <intelikey> scabootssca mv /boot/initramfs* /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
[07:13] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: you should already see stuff like 'root...' so just put it at the end of the line
[07:13] <scabootssca> mv: cannot stat `/boot/initramfs*': No such file or directory
[07:13] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[07:13] <abattoir> yes, that's the line :)
[07:13] <intelikey> you said it was there
[07:14] <scabootssca> i see it it's called "intiramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386"
[07:15] <scabootssca> do i have to type /linux/boott/initramfs* ?
[07:15] <scabootssca> boot i mean
[07:15] <intelikey> not in the chrooted shell
[07:15] <karl> !synergy
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about synergy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:16] <scabootssca> ok
[07:16] <intelikey> moved it to   initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386  ?
[07:16] <scabootssca> ?
[07:16] <intelikey> that's what is in your /etc/lilo.conf  ^   you must have missed that...
[07:16] <scabootssca> it dosnt work
[07:16] <Azzco> hi guys...I don't know why but my sound doesn't work anymore... I've been away for about twelve hours or something...and now it says something about sound device not detected
[07:17] <intelikey> needs to be    initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386  <--- that was one of the things i mentioned  but we both over looked.
[07:17] <robbrown> !love
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about love - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:18] <robbrown> :(
[07:18] <robbrown> poor ubotu
[07:18] <intelikey> scabootssca nano /etc/lilo.conf   and fix it.
[07:18] <kameronk> does someone know apache well?
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, maybe I did not save it properly before, this time it prompted me explicitely wether I want to keep the changes, abattoir...
[07:18] <xylus> hi everyone! im installing limewire and it says i need to upgrade to jre 1.4.0 or newer but yet it says clearley in my adept manager that i have 1.5.0 installed!
[07:18] <xylus> anyone help me out here?
[07:19] <robbrown> xylus, sure your not mixing up jre and sdk?
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, robbrown, now to harvester
[07:19] <scabootssca> intelikey, what needs to be that? initrd=/boot/intird.img-2.6.15-26-386  ?
[07:19] <intelikey> yep
[07:19] <xylus> nope
[07:19] <scabootssca> it already was'
[07:19] <robbrown> thanks mil
[07:19] <farous> xylus: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:19] <xylus> i have jre 1.5 and the konsol says i need 1.4 or newer
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: Looks like some compiling work to do, huh?
[07:19] <intelikey> scabootssca is that what the file name is you just moved ?
[07:19] <robbrown> did you use automatix to download the java stuff?
[07:19] <farous> select sun java
[07:19] <intelikey> oh i
[07:20] <scabootssca> intelikey, it didnt move it said there was no file
[07:20] <robbrown> did you refresh bash after install?
[07:20] <robbrown> probablt not necessary....
[07:20] <intelikey> ?
[07:20] <scabootssca> says mv: cannot stat `/boot/initramfs*': No such file or directory
[07:20] <xylus> thats all??
[07:20] <xylus> how did you know to do that??
[07:20] <robbrown> who what?
[07:21] <farous> xylus: did it work?
[07:21] <intelikey> use the tab key to complete file names in the console
[07:21] <farous> you just need to select the right java
[07:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so it is saved right?
[07:21] <xylus> yeah how did you knwo to do that!
[07:21] <xylus> like wtf!! linux master?
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes, abattoir
[07:22] <farous> xylus: would you have prefered if i did not tell you ;)
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: I didn't have any errors on untaring that... What options did you use?
[07:22] <xylus> nope im glad u did
[07:22] <xylus> lol
[07:22] <farous> xylus: just by time you will no it yourself :)
[07:22] <xylus> i wish i could rember randome commands off the top of my head
[07:22] <wckdkl0wn> how do i update kubuntu?
[07:22] <wckdkl0wn> apt-get update?
[07:22] <xylus> lol i hope so farous
[07:22] <farous> :)
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo apt-get update wckdkl0wn
[07:22] <xylus> wck that just updates your apt manager list
[07:22] <intelikey> scabootssca let me say this another way.    i don't care which your you change.   the name of the file or the name listed in lilo.conf   but make the match   (pa'lease!)
[07:23] <wckdkl0wn> xylus: ok so what do i do then?
[07:23] <robbrown> wckdkl0wn: juggalo?
[07:23] <wckdkl0wn> sup
[07:23] <robbrown> :)
[07:23] <intelikey> please make them match.
[07:23] <intelikey> please please please !
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> scabootssca: Why do you use Lilo anyway?
[07:24] <wckdkl0wn> xylus: i remember back when i used ubuntu a while back that i had to change the repositories to something so i was able to isntall more then what was in the base system
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: How did you try to extract harvester?
[07:24] <wckdkl0wn> someone told me to change it
[07:24] <wckdkl0wn> robbrown: i take it your a juggalo too then?
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to see who is some channel on freenode without joining it?
[07:26] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock cause grub couldn't boot both systems  was the answer i got.   so i sujested lilo and it did just fine.   now he/she  has switched the drives. jumpper to master/slave i assume.
[07:26] <robbrown> wckdkl0wn: i wouldn't go that far, i have some friends who are and i saw ICP when they came to melbourne
[07:26] <robbrown> mil: from the gui
[07:26] <scabootssca> he
[07:26] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:26] <intelikey> assumed but wasn't sure.
[07:26] <timi> whats the directorh for the start up folder
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> that's the point, it will fail there, robbrown. Doesn't keep the permissions from inside the archive
[07:26] <scabootssca> because for some reason the slave drive stopped working unless it was master
[07:27] <scabootssca> so i had to switch
[07:27] <robbrown> mil: ? why?
[07:27] <intelikey> timi ~/.kde/Autostart/    what you are looking for ?
[07:27] <scabootssca> it didnt show up in bios either
[07:27] <timi> i need to un autostart karamaba
[07:27] <robbrown> mil: do i have to be su?
[07:27] <scabootssca> intelikey, and i made them both match
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> That I can't say, robbrown
[07:27] <intelikey> yes
[07:28] <wckdkl0wn> whats the wiki for the repositories list?
[07:28] <scabootssca> no lilo?
[07:28] <scabootssca> now
[07:28] <intelikey> now
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Assuming you are using ark, there is probably an option for it though, robbrown... Not that I know it, but someone in here does...
[07:28] <robbrown> wckdkl0wn: what country?
[07:28] <scabootssca> yay
[07:28] <wckdkl0wn> robbrown: us
[07:28] <robbrown> right
[07:28] <scabootssca> Added linux *
[07:28] <scabootssca> Added Windows
[07:29] <Hobbsee> !repos > wckdkl0wn
[07:29] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: ty
[07:29] <timi> hey not to long ago i downloaded a kernel for dual core support using apt get then i restarted, kubuntu just loaded so am i to assume it loaded into the right kernel
[07:29] <scabootssca> intelikey, i guess http://pastebin.ca/100505 means it worked?
[07:29] <intelikey> ok  now for the record.   the two errors were.    filenames didn't match on the drive and in the config    and  there was no static device node.     the latter of the two i consider a bug in the kubuntu install   device nodes for persent standard ide drive should always be there.
[07:30] <intelikey> scabootssca yes the added lines means it worked
[07:30] <robbrown> timi check ksysguard :)
[07:30] <robbrown> if theres 2 cpu's there then yea
[07:30] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i guess reboot and see if it worked?
[07:31] <intelikey> i guess.
[07:31] <timi> nope
[07:31] <robbrown> uname -r
[07:31] <intelikey> and i'll run hide just in case
[07:31] <wckdkl0wn> if i want to install firefox and gaim etc from a repository instead of manual install how do i do that?
[07:31] <intelikey> :)
[07:31] <timi> robbrown is that fromme
[07:31] <scabootssca> *on wall
[07:31] <timi> err for me
[07:31] <robbrown> timi yeah
[07:31] <robbrown> tell me what it says
[07:32] <timi> 2.6.15-26-686
[07:32] <robbrown> hmmm do smp kernels say smp?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install program1 program2 program3 etc
[07:32] <robbrown> you aren't using the default 386 kernel though
[07:32] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: or use adept
[07:32] <timi> robbrown what is this smp stuff
[07:33] <robbrown> semetric processing
[07:33] <robbrown> multiple processors
[07:33] <timi> how do i figure out wht you were saying
[07:33] <robbrown> you sure you installed the 686-smp kernel?
[07:33] <intelikey> robbrown i686 are smp    there is an infonode on the forums
[07:33] <timi> im pretty sure it was some big file
[07:33] <robbrown> intelikey: why isn't the second cpu showing up in ksysguard?
[07:33] <timi> how do i check if installed the smp
[07:34] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: adept? never used it.. always used apt-get
[07:34] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: use apt-get then :)
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> robbrown: You need a different kernel, I guess
[07:34] <robbrown> wckdcl0wn you should try adept then
[07:34] <robbrown> :)
[07:34] <intelikey> check the forums  https://forum.ubuntu.org   or what ever it is.
[07:34] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: lol ok
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning Hobbsee!
[07:34] <Hobbsee> hi MilhousePunkRock. did you end up killing your system?
[07:35] <Hobbsee> timi: type /sysinfo please?
[07:35] <timi> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 445/1001MB, 106 proc's, 37.39min up
[07:35] <Hobbsee> that'll tell you which kernel you should be using
[07:35] <Hobbsee> timi: it *should* be the right kernel then.
[07:35] <Hobbsee> did you dapper people get an update of kdenetwork today?
[07:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I probably wouldnt be here then... I looked at the kernel patch "suspend2" again, and luckily found a precompiled *ubuntu kernel with the patch
[07:35] <wckdkl0wn> Sysinfo for 'wckdkl0wn-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 2105 MHz (4212 bogomips), , RAM: 462/757MB, 94 proc's, 16.48min up
[07:35] <wckdkl0wn> opps
[07:35] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[07:36] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ahh...you were compiling kernels...fun...
[07:36] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: you should probably be using the -k7 kernel for that - it's optimised for amd's
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: No, I didn't dare, I found a precompiled one luckily
[07:36] <timi> Hobbsee doesnt system info just show me wht i am using
[07:36] <timi> not wht i shoul dbe using
[07:36] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: i just got my cd's in the main today so i just installed.. i am kinda new to linux
[07:36] <Hobbsee> timi: CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz tells me, not what kernel in particular you're using :)
[07:37] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: ahh...sudo apt-get instal linux-k7
[07:37] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: ahh...sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[07:37] <timi> i alyeah the old kernel said the exact same thing
[07:37] <timi> before i updated 30 minutes ago o w/e
[07:37] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: ok
[07:37] <Hobbsee> and sudo apt-get remove linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 linux-headers-386
[07:37] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: what will that change though?
[07:37] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: know what optimisation is?
[07:38] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: was that second command for me to put into konsole  and sudo apt-get remove linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 linux-headers-386
[07:38] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: yep
[07:38] <timi> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 446/1001MB, 106 proc's, 41.26min up
[07:38] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: ok
[07:39] <wckdkl0wn> nice 236 kb a sec on the download
[07:39] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: basically, you're adding the optimised kernels, and removing bits so you wont get updates on the non-optimised ones - saving you downloads, because you wont be using them anyway
[07:39] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: because between an optimised kernel and a non-optimised one - the optimised one will always win, right/
[07:40] <timi> how do i get flash player audio back, i used to have it
[07:40] <wckdkl0wn> i guess lol
[07:40] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[07:40] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:40] <timi> all i did was change sound to alsa and it worked, now it snot workign
[07:40] <Hobbsee> ah
[07:40] <timi> yeah i have the codec
[07:40] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: like i said i am kinda new to this so i am just gonna agree lol
[07:41] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: want an explanation/
[07:41] <Hobbsee> ?
[07:41] <timi> damn linux
[07:41] <scabootssca> i'm about to break something
[07:41] <Hobbsee> gah, my shift key is terrible.
[07:41] <Hobbsee> scabootssca: uh oh, what?
[07:41] <wckdkl0wn> ok i installed the new kernal thing and removed the rest
[07:41] <scabootssca> it still dosnt work
[07:41] <wckdkl0wn> am i fully updated? or something else i ahve to do?
[07:42] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: okay, for new kernels, you need to reboot (it's the only thing you have to for), and pick the top one, and you'll automatically bootinto the new kernel.
[07:42] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: ok brb
[07:42] <timi> anyone know how to change an xmodmap or something
[07:42] <crimsun> xmodmap some.xmodmap.file
[07:43] <unan> what is the difference between a kernel module and a driver?
[07:43] <timi> i need to add some media keys on the front of my laptop
[07:43] <Agent_bob> scabootssca what did it do ?
[07:43] <timi> the insturctions i found just said add to xmodmap
[07:43] <scabootssca> it still does the exact same thing as it did before
[07:44] <crimsun> unan: a driver may have a userspace component, too; a kernel module is the kernelspace portion of a driver.
[07:44] <scabootssca> so i'm jsut gonna reinstall the damn thing
[07:44] <unan> crimsun: so nvidia has no kernel module, just a driver?
[07:45] <unan> crimsun: or does it have a module, but it is open source?
[07:45] <scabootssca> ok intellakey whoever you changed your name too thanks for all the help i'm sorry i wasted all your time but i cant figure it out so i'm gonna have to reinstall and start over
[07:45] <scabootssca> sorry again
[07:45] <Agent_bob> scabootssca i hate initramfs.   had to build 7 of them before i got it right.
[07:46] <scabootssca> bye
[07:46] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: ok.. it didnt ask me anything on boot though it just booted
[07:46] <wckdkl0wn> Sysinfo for 'wckdkl0wn-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 2105 MHz (4214 bogomips), , RAM: 246/756MB, 93 proc's, 2.26min up
[07:46] <wckdkl0wn> Hobbsee: is that right now?
[07:46] <Hobbsee> wckdkl0wn: yep :)
[07:46] <Hobbsee> see/  Linux 2.6.15-26-k7
[07:46] <wckdkl0wn> ah the k7 is there
[07:46] <wckdkl0wn> what was it before?
[07:47] <crimsun> unan: Nvidia's non-free, binary-only driver has two components, a kernel driver (nvidia.ko) and an X Window System driver (the 'nvidia' Driver)
[07:48] <unan> crimsun: oh, so it has no kernel module
[07:48] <unan> crimsun: thank you
[07:48] <crimsun> unan: yes it does.
[07:48] <crimsun> unan: it's called nvidia.ko
[07:49] <Agent_bob> the ko is for frame buffering i suppose
[07:49] <unan> crimsun: but aren't they illegal?
[07:49] <crimsun> unan: they're not at all illegal
[07:49] <unan> crimsun: i've heard that modules can't be open source
[07:49] <Healot> binary distribution of nv or ati driver is legal :-
[07:49] <unan> crimsun: sorry
[07:49] <xylus> whats the command to turn a sh into a executeable for linux guys
[07:49] <unan> crimsun: i've heard that modules can't be non--open-source
[07:49] <xylus> chmod or something isent it
[07:50] <Agent_bob> sh file.sh
[07:50] <crimsun> unan: no, that's incorrect (mis)information.
[07:50] <wckdkl0wn> is there a program that will utilize a tv capture card so i am able to watch tv on my computer again? the card is a winfast tv2000 xp wdm
[07:50] <xylus> how i turn a .sh file into a executeable chmod soemthing
[07:50] <MilhousePunkRock> No matter what I do, the additinoal boot parameters won
[07:50] <xylus> can someone tell me the command plz
[07:50] <Agent_bob> and yes xylus chmod 755 file.sh is the general fix
[07:50] <Agent_bob> sh file.sh
[07:50] <MilhousePunkRock> t stay in the menu.lst
[07:51] <xylus> thx agent
[07:51] <Healot> chmod +x file
[07:51] <timi> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 595/1001MB, 108 proc's, 53.41min up
[07:51] <Healot> timi: advertisement?
[07:52] <timi> no
[07:52] <timi> i tried to send it to myself
[07:52] <timi> i did the >timi thing
[07:52] <timi> but it didnt work
[07:52] <unan> crimsun: they say it here: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html (search for "simple answer" on that page)
[07:53] <xylus> hmm chmod 755 dosent work
[07:53] <xylus> and i hate everytime that i want to start limewire i need to go to the command line
[07:53] <xylus> and type ./ runLime.sh
[07:54] <xylus> is their a way to make a exefile and link it to my desktop?
[07:54] <xylus> well not a exe exactley but a bin or something
[07:54] <scabootssca> ok it's installing
[07:55] <timi> sweet now flash sound doesnt work
[07:55] <timi> !microsoft
[07:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about microsoft - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:56] <timi> how do i get this
[07:56] <timi> Kernel version 2.6.17-rc5
[07:56] <Agent_bob> xylus and you are the guy complaining about there not being any gcc installed by default....
[07:57] <Agent_bob> dl it at kernel.org  or linux.org or what ever it is...
[07:57] <Agent_bob> google knows.
[07:57] <timi>  anyone know
[07:57] <Agent_bob> timi ^
[07:57] <timi> ok.
[07:57] <Agent_bob> you won't get that from the repos
[07:57] <timi> ok
[07:58] <scabootssca> !frostwire
[07:58] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:58] <timi> anyone know how i cant get flash sound to work
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: The "resume2=swap:/dev/hda5" is there, for both suspend2-enabled kernels, but it still complains it's not...
[07:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what complains?
[07:58] <timi> i did this just yesterday then when i changed some sound setttigns it stopped working, changed them back and ti wont work
[07:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: swsup2?
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> when I execute hibernate on the shell
[07:59] <timi> me/ d
[07:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: did you try booting up w/ that kernel parameter?
[07:59] <wckdkl0wn> hrmm i just froze kubuntu lol
[07:59] <timi> me says/
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I thought changes to grub were immideate?
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> ^^spell check
[08:00] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes, but you should boot into the kernel w/ that parameter
[08:00] <unan> crimsun: did you read it? what do you think? i don't know how to interpret that
[08:01] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so please try rebooting into the kernel w/ that parameter :)
[08:01] <wckdkl0wn> what dvd player do you all use for playing dvd's?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I already did..
[08:01] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: kaffeine, install libdvdcss
[08:02] <abattoir> !multimedia
[08:02] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !kmilo
[08:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about kmilo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> timi, search google for kmilo
[08:02] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: see the ubotu post about multimedia, should have more info
[08:02] <timi> ok
[08:02] <crimsun> unan: I think he makes a very valid and very satisfactory (to me) argument for why they /should/ be illegal. On the other hand, this statement also says the truth: "Now no lawyer will ever come out in public and say this, as lawyer really aren't allowed to make public statements like this at all. But if you hire one, and talk to them in the client/lawyer setting, they will advise you of this issue."
[08:03] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: ty
[08:03] <crimsun> unan: so in other words, according to current law, they are /not/ illegal.
[08:03] <xylus> nyone know how to get sound in kafeen player or perhaps a better video player avaible for linux?
[08:03] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: np :)
[08:03] <timi> crimsun weere u just in xubutu
[08:03] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: i got a crash with that program
[08:03] <crimsun> timi: channel doesn't really matter :)
[08:03] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: with kaffeine? when you play dvds?
[08:04] <xylus> play anything realy
[08:04] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: yea jsut crashed when i tryed to play a dvd
[08:04] <xylus> im playin a music video
[08:04] <xylus> and i got no sound
[08:04] <xylus> i try play mpg
[08:04] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: you installed stuff like libdvdread, libdvdcss2 right?
[08:04] <xylus> i try dvd later
[08:05] <wckdkl0wn> cant find packages
[08:05] <wckdkl0wn> or was i supose to install that another way?
[08:05] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: that's why i said go to the links that ubotu gave about multimedia :)
[08:05] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: they have the right names
[08:05] <wckdkl0wn> lol ok
[08:05] <abattoir> !multimedia
[08:05] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[08:06] <ironfroggy> are USB drives faster than harddrives? are they appropriate for use as swap partitions?
[08:07] <timi> !uninstall
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about uninstall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: its libdvdread3, libdvdnav4, libdvdplay0, and libdvdcss2, at least for me :)
[08:07] <timi> hey abbattoir how do i uninstall a program that isnt a kubuntu program
[08:08] <abattoir> timi: like what?
[08:08] <timi> like i compiled kbootsplash *completely worthless* and i want to remove it but its not in adept andd/remove
[08:09] <abattoir> timi: ok, go to the folder where you extracted it and do 'sudo make uninstall'
[08:09] <abattoir> timi: and then delete the folder
[08:09] <abattoir> timi: assuming you installed it w/ 'sudo make install', that is.
[08:09] <timi> yeah i did
[08:10] <timi> i  think i deleted the prgram where i extractedit to
[08:10] <timi> the folder
[08:10] <Agent_bob> "Look at the latest versions of Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu and others. Installation is a complete breeze (way easier than any other operating system installation)."  <--- i think easier translates to inflexable in the *buntu field anyway....
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Wow, hibernation on the shell works, kind of...
[08:14] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: does that top link for the multimedia codecs work for you? cause i cant get it to open the link.. i keep getting 404 errors
[08:14] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: hmm didnt try, wait a sec
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Although I get an error message on resuming and dbus won't start automatically when I startx
[08:14] <abattoir> !multimedia > abattoir
[08:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: works?
[08:15] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Basically yes... Hibernation on the shell that is...
[08:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: that's nice to hear :)
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> The rest is tweaking I guess...
[08:16] <unan> crimsun: i see, thank you (for helping it make some sense to me)
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I think I need to try "sleep" on the console now
[08:16] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: i get a 404 too, guess the link needs to be updated
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> what was the shell command to stop x again?
[08:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: telinit 3
[08:16] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: ok so its not just me lol i thought i was doin something wrong
[08:16] <unan> crimsun: did you read it until the end, btw?
[08:16] <abattoir> w/ a sudo in front ;)
[08:17] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: the 2nd one works?
[08:17] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: yea but doesnt really explain anything
[08:17] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: heh, did you try the packages i told you?
[08:17] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: yea that all installed except the last one
[08:18] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: which one? libdvdcss2?
[08:18] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: libdvdcss2
[08:18] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: i think that's important, for the region coding thing
[08:18] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: you get any error?
[08:18] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: or are you in the process of installing that?
[08:18] <unan> crimsun: (including the argument on their not being ethical and including novell's official statement)
[08:18] <wckdkl0wn> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[08:19] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: are you in amd64 by any chance?
[08:19] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: rest isntalled just fine
[08:19] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: no
[08:19] <wckdkl0wn> Sysinfo for 'wckdkl0wn-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 2105 MHz (4214 bogomips), , RAM: 418/756MB, 90 proc's, 21.59min up
[08:20] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: wait a sec
[08:20] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: k
[08:20] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: go to /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3
[08:21] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: see if you have a install-css.sh file there
[08:21] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: how do i do that?
[08:21] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: i'm kinda new to linux
[08:21] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: in konqueror... just type that path
[08:21] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: ok, open konqueror, in the addressbar, put in the path i gave... /usr/share....
[08:21] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: tell me if you see the file
[08:22] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: nope just changelog files
[08:22] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: hmm, ok, gimme a second
[08:22] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: k
[08:23] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: on that link it said something about xine.. whats that?
[08:23] <abattoir> !dvd
[08:23] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:23] <xylus> holey crap a decent kinda new game out for linux! i never knew!!!!
[08:23] <xylus> took me long enuph to find a decent game but americas army has a linux distro avaiable
[08:23] <xylus> XD
[08:24] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: that's the 'backend' multimedia player that kaffeine/ amarok etc. use by default in kubuntu
[08:24] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[08:24] <abattoir> well, not exactly amarok... but
[08:24] <timi> i couldnt find w/e directory i sent it too
[08:24] <xylus> hey abattoir u know how to make sound work with kaffeen
[08:24] <abattoir> xylus: which format?
[08:24] <abattoir> the file i mean
[08:24] <xylus> mpg
[08:24] <abattoir> which codec?
[08:25] <xylus> none i dont think
[08:25] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: ok that first link for dvd doesnt work either
[08:25] <xylus> ill ask later i cant be botherd with downloading 5000 libs and codecs just to get sound in kafeen atm
[08:25] <abattoir> xylus: nah, there has to be one... try installing win32codecs... or get it from winehq.hu
[08:25] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: really, what's up w/ all these ubotu entries today...
[08:26] <Dahgol> which is the best dock for linux?
[08:26] <abattoir> Dahgol: kxdocker ?
[08:26] <timi> i have absolutely no bass
[08:26] <Dahgol> abattoir: ok. i will try it
[08:26] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[08:26] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[08:26] <timi> i remember there was something i opneed one time that allowed me to chose if i had 2.0 system or 2.1 or /we anyone know what that is
[08:27] <timi> !audio
[08:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:27] <timi> !sound
[08:27] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:27] <xylus> file:///home/xylus/Desktop/snapshot1.png
[08:28] <Lynoure> oh, same timi, new nick.
[08:28] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: should i jsut update my repositories and maybe i can find the file then?
[08:28] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: was there an examples folder in the folder i asked you to check out?
[08:29] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: i dont think so, unless you add sevea*s' repo
[08:29] <linuxblows> !sound
[08:29] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:29] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: lol yea and the install-css.sh is there
[08:29] <abattoir> !seveas
[08:29] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:29] <Lynoure> linuxblows: no bass eberywhere or just in some players? At least xine sports a selection for speaker set.
[08:29] <linuxblows> everywhere
[08:30] <linuxblows> there is a part in a soung where there is supposed to bass and its almost complelety silent
[08:30] <linuxblows> and now sound in flash player doesnt work
[08:30] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: ok, good, now open up a konsole and type in 'cd /usr/share/doc/....'(complete the path, i'm too lazy :P)
[08:30] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: once you are in the examples folder, type 'sudo sh ./install-css.sh'
[08:30] <Lynoure> linuxblows: have you checked that the subwoofer actually works?
[08:30] <linuxblows> i dont ahve a subwoofer
[08:30] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: that should take care of the installation... and kaffeine should be able to play your dvd :)
[08:30] <Lynoure> linuxblows: oh, jsut 2 spakers then?
[08:31] <linuxblows> yeah laptop speakers
[08:31] <Lynoure> hmm, I'm way too typoish today
[08:31] <linuxblows> but when iused windows media center i had bass
[08:31] <unan> i know this is off-topic, but how do i remove the bootup splash screen in kubuntu?
[08:31] <Lynoure> unan: it does not sound a tad offtopic to me
[08:32] <timi> Lynoure: any ideas
[08:32] <rob> sounds on topic to me :)
[08:32] <unan> isn't this grub related?
[08:32] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: sweet it works now :)
[08:32] <abattoir> unan: not sure, but maybe removing 'splash' in your menu.lst kernel entry?
[08:32] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: cool :)
[08:32] <Lynoure> unan: last I checked, dapper still came with grub.
[08:32] <Dahgol> abattoir: eclipse or kdevelop?
[08:32] <unan> Lynoure: this is why i thought it was off-topic
[08:33] <abattoir> Dahgol: i use neither :P plain old kate
[08:33] <Lynoure> unan: :)
[08:33] <unan> Lynoure: i considered it on-topic on #grub
[08:33] <unan> :)
[08:33] <unan> but their channel is too small for an answer
[08:33] <timi> any ideas to how i can get back my sound on flash player
[08:33] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: ok how about a mp3 player now? xmms i think it is called
[08:34] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: well, i'd suggest amarok... but if you still want xmms...
[08:34] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: do a 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[08:34] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: i used to use xmms a while back mainly because it more like winamp
[08:34] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: whatever you like :)
[08:34] <abattoir> !info xmms
[08:34] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[08:35] <abattoir> its in main, so the command i gave you above should get it
[08:35] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: ok installed
[08:35] <wckdkl0wn> what about using a tv capture card?
[08:35] <wckdkl0wn> is that possible with linux?
[08:35] <abattoir> !mythtv
[08:35] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[08:35] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: there is nothing really *impossible* w/ linux :P
[08:36] <unan> when will aiglx support commercial drivers?
[08:36] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: you were looking for ^^^^^^ that right?
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: i think lol
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: i have a winfast tv2000 xp wdm capture card i used in windows to watch tv on my computer
[08:47] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: heh, i have no clue about those things :P, must work though, check it out....
[08:47] <timi> sound used to work
[08:47] <timi> does anyone know which of the five million sound menus is the one that lets you determine speaker set u[
[08:47] <timi> !speakers
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about speakers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <timi> !speaker
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about speaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: is there a way to tell if i have the device installed already or if i would need drivers for it
[08:47] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: is it usb or pci?
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> pci
[08:47] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: lspci should give you a clue
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> just wondering if linux installed it already when i installed linux
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capt                                                              ure (rev 11)
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> 0000:01:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (r                                                              ev 11)
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> thats probably it
[08:47] <wolfmanz> abattoir might you know if ubuntu has a official stance on including codecs that i can read?
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> so that means its installed i just need software then
[08:47] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: maybe...
[08:47] <abattoir> wolfmanz: official stance on what codecs?
[08:47] <wolfmanz> abattoir codecs in general like the mp3 codecs or the .avi stuff and mpeg and all that
[08:47] <abattoir> wolfmanz: oh, you are looking for written/printed stuff...
[08:47] <abattoir> let me search
[08:47] <abattoir> i thought you wanted to read codecs :P
[08:47] <wolfmanz> no lol
[08:47] <Agent_bob> how many days does it take to build a kernel on a 80486 anyway ???
[08:47] <Lynoure> wolfmanz: official stand on licenses affects the codec thing a lot.
[08:47] <abattoir> wolfmanz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ????
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Now for the fine tweaking of suspend2... When I restart after hibernation, this line (     echo 0 > $SWSUSP_ROOT/last_result ) in the script gives me the result: Permission denied
[08:47] <Agent_bob> the GNU-GPL  is the official stance on codecs or any other 'leach' code.
[08:47] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya that maybe it i will go have a read thanks for finding that
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> although the last_result file has -r--r--r- permissions
[08:48] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: does it prevent you from restoring your session?
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> no, but I would like to get _no_ error messages
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Next: When I do "startx" dbus won't load but can be started with dbus start
[08:49] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm... you probably want to write a script for that...
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe... On the other hand I should try hibernation from X now, shouldn't I?
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Be back in a few...
[08:51] <wckdkl0wn> wow that seems like a lot of work to setup mythtv
[08:55] <heartWindows> hey i got sound back
[08:55] <heartWindows> yay
[08:55] <abattoir> timi: in Windows? that's cool :)
[08:56] <timi> lol
[08:56] <abattoir> :P
[08:56] <timi> this thing was getting so frustrating though
[08:56] <timi> im sure ill appreciate it more some of my friends get viruses or something
[08:58] <intelikey> heyhey,,, one monkey do stop no show!
[08:58] <timi> wht?
[08:58] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here installed mythtv before on kubuntu?
[08:59] <wckdkl0wn> i need to find a how-to for installing on kubuntu.. the one i found said ubuntu dappy only and not to follow it for other versions
[09:00] <xylus> pimped im a total noob and i download amearicas army .run file and changed it to a bin typed chmod 577 filename.bin than ./filename.bin and it actualy worked!
[09:00] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: dapper drake?
[09:00] <xylus> i just took a guess XD altho i recall the command being 755
[09:00] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: which version do you have?
[09:00] <timi> ok this is retarded, i just had sound on flash in firefox
[09:00] <wckdkl0wn> The packages in this repository are built for Ubuntu Dapper only, do not use these for any other version of Ubuntu or Debian.
[09:00] <wckdkl0wn> beats me
[09:00] <wckdkl0wn> wait ubuntu and kubuntu are the same right?
[09:00] <timi> clickd on a new video and ther eis no sound
[09:00] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: 'lsb_release -a'
[09:00] <xylus> wck
[09:00] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: yup :) if you dont count Gnome/KDe
[09:01] <xylus> ubuntu is the gnome
[09:01] <xylus> version
[09:01] <xylus> kubuntu is the kde
[09:01] <wckdkl0wn> wow i feel like an idiot
[09:01] <xylus> technaly it dosent matter tho
[09:01] <intelikey> xubuntu is the xfce4 version
[09:01] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: you have dapper?
[09:01] <wckdkl0wn> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:01] <wckdkl0wn> Release:        6.06
[09:01] <intelikey> ?
[09:01] <wckdkl0wn> Codename:       dapper
[09:01] <xylus> because with kubuntu u can download the gnome files
[09:01] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: :)
[09:01] <xylus> and use gnome like if u were using ubuntu
[09:01] <wckdkl0wn> ok dont mind me
[09:01] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[09:02] <wckdkl0wn> http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Ubuntu
[09:02] <wckdkl0wn> so that will work then?
[09:02] <abattoir> intelikey: yes
[09:03] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: yes, should
[09:03] <wckdkl0wn> abattoir: ok here i go lol this aught to be fun
[09:03] <abattoir> heh, enjoy :P
[09:04] <wckdkl0wn> umm
[09:04] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: these are cheap thrills, nothing like having pbuilder screw up your system :P
[09:04] <wckdkl0wn> how do i edit the repositories?
[09:04] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: you should try that out sometime :)
[09:04] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file
[09:05] <wckdkl0wn> some site said use 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:06] <wckdkl0wn> but command not found
[09:06] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: substitute gedit w/ kate
[09:06] <wckdkl0wn> k
[09:06] <abattoir> gedit is the default text editor for ubuntu, while kate is the same for kubuntu
[09:06] <intelikey> is there not a way to specify an ip with dpkg ?   or even apt-get ?     does it have to be a change to the sources.list and an update each time ?
[09:07] <wckdkl0wn> so i jsut put in 'deb http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper ./'??
[09:08] <wckdkl0wn> no # in front of it?
[09:08] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: no #
[09:08] <abattoir> # means that the line is 'commented' out
[09:08] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[09:11] <intelikey> why am i seeing mega-tons of lines like "  CC [M]   drivers/net/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o
[09:11] <intelikey> when i set all pcmcia  to NOT! make  ?
[09:11] <wckdkl0wn> to unzip this ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz i do what?
[09:12] <intelikey> oh building a kernel ^
[09:12] <intelikey> gunzip file
[09:12] <intelikey> but you'll want to untar it too
[09:12] <intelikey> so why not start there.
[09:12] <intelikey> tar -xzvf file
[09:12] <wckdkl0wn> download it untar the file cd into the directory then run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and run "sudo make && sudo make install". Then cd into the utils directory. Once you are done with that issue these commands or copy them into a file and chmod it to executable and run it:
[09:13] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: yes, extract it w/ the cmd intelikey gave, and then do 'cd nameofdir'...
[09:14] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: but tbh, sudo apt-get can be run from any dir... i dont see the point..
[09:14] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: care to give the link again?
[09:14] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: nvm, have it
[09:14] <wckdkl0wn> yea this is really confusing
[09:14] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[09:15] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: yup ok, first do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[09:15] <wckdkl0wn> did that
[09:15] <intelikey>   CC [M]   drivers/net/tulip/xircom_cb.o
[09:15] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: ok, now are you in the extracted directory?
[09:15] <wckdkl0wn> yes
[09:15] <abattoir> type 'make'
[09:15] <intelikey> ^ that's building the tulip xircom as a module correct ?
[09:16] <crimsun> yes
[09:16] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: after you do that, enter 'sudo make install'
[09:16] <intelikey> i very explicitly removed all eth card drivers  and pcmcia also  why is it building them anyway ?
[09:17] <wckdkl0wn> ok?
[09:17] <intelikey> is the makefile hosed on the new kernel cvs or what ?
[09:18] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: done? no errors?
[09:18] <wckdkl0wn> got 2 errors
[09:18] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: pastebin it
[09:19] <wckdkl0wn> pastebin?
[09:19] <intelikey> i mean  KRAP!   it's building everything.  "  CC [M]   drivers/net/wan/farsync.o"  i removed all checks astrisks' and M's from that stuff
[09:19] <abattoir> !pastebin
[09:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:19] <heartWindows> hey im trying to choose a helper application in firefox
[09:19] <heartWindows> where are all the apps at
[09:19] <heartWindows> spec k torrent
[09:20] <wckdkl0wn> ok done
[09:20] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: link?
[09:20] <wckdkl0wn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18915
[09:20] <abattoir> nvm, got it
[09:21] <heartWindows> are applications in the filesystem
[09:21] <intelikey> i don't want a kernel with all the drivers. only the ones that specificly match my hardware, and building in ext#fs support and ide-disk  was one of the main reasons for compiling,   if it's building everything as modules that i specified to NOT build at all   what are the changes that the fs support will even be compiled in ???
[09:23] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: i think you are missing the kernel headers
[09:24] <wckdkl0wn> ok?
[09:24] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: the kernel sources... rather
[09:24] <wckdkl0wn> so whats that mean?
[09:25] <timi> anyone know how to work ktorrent
[09:25] <Healot> i kubuntuans
[09:25] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: wait i'll give you the correct package name
[09:25] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: or you could search in adept
[09:25] <timi> !ktorrent >timi
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about ktorrent  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <wckdkl0wn> what am i searching for?
[09:26] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: try linux source
[09:26] <intelikey> atp-cache search linux-source
[09:27] <wckdkl0wn> inux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[09:27] <wckdkl0wn> linux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> timi What do you need to know?
[09:27] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: the first one is just a meta package
[09:27] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: so installing that should get you the current source
[09:27] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: so install the first
[09:27] <wckdkl0wn> k
[09:27] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: see if the second also gets installed
[09:28] <intelikey> installing that will get you a tarball of the source you then need to untar it
[09:28] <timi> milhouse
[09:28] <timi> i just got a torrent from torentspy
[09:28] <abattoir> intelikey: really? isnt that just a metapackage?
[09:28] <wckdkl0wn> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:28] <wckdkl0wn> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:28] <timi> on firefox i selected open in ktorrent, it didt nnotw ktoren isnt doing anything
[09:28] <intelikey> is another process using it?
[09:28] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: is apt-get /aptitude/snaptic running in the background?
[09:29] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: or arent you running as root?
[09:29] <wckdkl0wn> wait adept was open
[09:29] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[09:29] <intelikey> adept even
[09:29] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: oh, i thought you were installing through adept
[09:29] <wckdkl0wn> was going to
[09:29] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: I have that bug too, just save the torrent to you harddrive and open it in KTorrent manually...
[09:29] <wckdkl0wn> but apt-get works faster
[09:29] <timi> ok
[09:29] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: indeed :)
[09:30] <wckdkl0wn> sweet 653kb download
[09:30] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Firefox is a little picky about certain files anyway, same on Windows
[09:30] <wckdkl0wn> never got that in windows
[09:30] <wckdkl0wn> ok installed
[09:31] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: ok, try make again
[09:31] <intelikey> it looks like hours of compiling stuff like "  CC [M]   drivers/net/wireless/prism54/islpci_hotplug.o" is a bug.   cause in menuconfig  i turned off all that crap...  yet it's making it anyway.
[09:31] <wckdkl0wn> same thing
[09:31] <wckdkl0wn> same errors
[09:31] <timi> the little message in ktorrent says UDPTracker::error your client version not admitted here
[09:31] <timi> should i just azureus
[09:32] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the downside of not using framebuffer?
[09:32] <intelikey> ^c  ^C
[09:33] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock you can't watch vidios in console  ?
[09:33] <timi> i did sudo apt-get install azureus and it sayd it was going to need 107MB
[09:33] <timi> is that right
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm how likely am I ever going to watch videos on the console?
[09:33] <intelikey> or do you mean not using framebuffer in X
[09:33] <timi> i thought azureus as just a torrent client
[09:33] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock idk.
[09:33] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: need to go now :)
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: Azureus is bloat, don't use it
[09:33] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: hope make and make install work
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Nooooooooooo
[09:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe
[09:34] <timi> ok
[09:34] <timi> well ktorrent doesnt work
[09:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: forgot to ask... did it work? the script? or didnt you try it at all?
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> CU anyway, abattoir... Next time we meet, I have suspend/resume running...
[09:34] <timi> its not accepted or w/e
[09:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: heh, that'll be in a few hours :P
[09:35] <Healot> coz azureus uses Java
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: If I hibernate from inside X, it won't come back. That is due to frame buffer
[09:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, you figured it out?
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: Do you have wine or cedega running?
[09:35] <timi> no
[09:35] <timi> this is the error ktorrent types in its owne error thingy
[09:35] <timi> Doing tracker request to url : udp://tntvillage.org:6969/announce
[09:35] <timi> UDPTracker::error : your client/version not admitted here, consider to change/upgrade your client
[09:35] <timi> Tracker Response Error
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Well, it's different than it was before, the screen is only showing weird black and white vertical lines...
[09:36] <timi> im guessing the client is ktorrent right
[09:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i get that too, for a few secs, before the screen loads
[09:36] <timi> can i get bittorent then or something
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: That's not KTorrent not working, it's ignorant tracker admins...
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> I got that from the shell, it went away, but from X, it stays...
[09:36] <timi> meh well i want that torrent so i think im just gonna get bit torrent then
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> If you had wine or cedega working, you could try Torrent
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Which is by far the best BT client ever
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Azureus is bloated and BitComet is cheating, all other clients should be fine, timi
[09:38] <timi> i just apt-get bittorent
[09:38] <timi> now if could only find it...
[09:38] <timi> kill x
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> anything else I do need fb for, intelikey?
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: Hey Tim!
[09:39] <aegeanlinux> Het MilhousePunkRock, `sup mate!
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: The temperature...
[09:40] <aegeanlinux> and the sky ;)
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> The ceiling, my blood pressure...
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> If I change some options for the video driver in xorg.conf, I probably do it one by one, right?
[09:46] <PokerFacePenguin> anybody got the quick answer on how to get a virtual interface E0:1 to be permanent after a reboot?  perhaps something in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:47] <Lynoure> PokerFacePenguin: yes, there. cannot remember the exact line, easy find on google, I bet
[09:47] <timi> i just apt-get bittorent and its gui
[09:47] <timi> but i dont see it anywehr
[09:48] <PokerFacePenguin> if it was dhcp it probably wouldn't be a prob, but i want it static and dont know syntax
[09:48] <Lynoure> PokerFacePenguin: ok, I can go googling for you if you really really really cannot find it yourself.
[09:48] <PokerFacePenguin> anyway, was just takin a stab in here
[09:48] <PokerFacePenguin> no, i will find it, thanks tho
[09:50] <timi> anyone know where i can find bittorent
[09:50] <timi> i just apt-got it and its gui
[09:52] <wckdkl0wn> what would i use to play avi and wma files?
[09:53] <Healot> !mp3
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <Healot> for windows media format? w32codecs might help, or use Windows Media Player (for DRM'ed media files)
[09:54] <Ace2006> Hi all
[09:54] <Ace2006> killall artsd does not kill artsd, what do i do?
[09:55] <Ace2006> i was watching in ksysguard while killing them
[09:57] <aegeanlinux> sudo killall artsd ?
[10:02] <wckdkl0wn> yea that didnt help one bit
[10:03] <ironfroggy> is there some way to have footers added to the bottom of pages to print from html, listing the URLs of hyperlinks in the page?
[10:08] <kraut> moin
[10:09] <ironfroggy> kraut: was that a reply?
[10:11] <kraut> it was like "good morning all"
[10:12] <ironfroggy> o
[10:12] <ironfroggy> dang
[10:12] <ironfroggy> but, also, goor morning
[10:21] <timi> does k torrent have its own torrent search
[10:21] <timi> nvm
[10:26] <intelikey> well i reconfigured the kernel .config again and first raddel out of the box it's building things i told it not too  "  CC      init/calibrate.o  "  for example.
[10:31] <ubuntu__> I booted kubuntu from live cd how do i install it pls????????????
[10:33] <ubuntu__> I booted kubuntu from live cd how do i install it pls????????????
[10:34] <Healot> see the desktop yet?
[10:34] <Healot> click on the "Install" icon on the desktop
[10:50] <eitch0000> anyone got an idea what I must do about a webcam in kubuntu?
[10:51] <britto> how can i to install Gnome in my kubuntu?
[10:53] <ironfroggy> britto: install ubuntu-desktop
[10:53] <ironfroggy> but, also, WHY
[10:55] <britto> ironfroggy>ok thanks
[10:55] <britto> ironfroggy>do you speak portuguese?
[10:56] <britto> ronfroggy>i am brazilian
[10:56] <ironfroggy> the only portuguese i know is 'roto de tempe', which i am not sure is even correct.
[10:57] <britto> ironfroggy>ok
[10:58] <britto> anyone speak portuguese?
[11:01] <andriijas> is it just me or is firefox unstable in kubuntu 6.06 ?
[11:03] <gabriel1> Hello
[11:03] <Healot> just you, andriijas :)
[11:03] <Healot> !pt
[11:03] <Healot> !br
[11:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:06] <andriijas> how do i execute a .bin file?
[11:12] <kakalto> hmm
[11:13] <kakalto> xine doesn't like certain mp3s
[11:13] <kakalto> well
[11:13] <kakalto> it only plays the last 10 seconds
[11:14] <andriijas> amaroK ftw dude
[11:20] <flauzio> hi
[11:22] <kakalto> flauzio: hi.
[11:22] <kakalto> andriijas: I'm using amarok.
[11:24] <flauzio> i need to use Kde interface as primary (usually) and gnome secondary (some time), i need keep KDE mime-types programs association. Must i install Ubuntu and Kde over it or install Kubunt and Gnome over it?  thx
[11:25] <e-Hernick> I honestly don't think it's going to make much of a difference.
[11:25] <e-Hernick> You can backup your ~/.kde* directories if you're worried about them getting overwritten
[11:26] <e-Hernick> just about every KDE setting is found there
[11:27] <flauzio> i tryed install kde over ubuntu, but for example when i open a compressed file start fileroller instead ark :(
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I determine what modules are running?
[11:28] <emonkeylap> flauzio, do you've installed the package kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-default-settings ?
[11:28] <flauzio> emonkeylap, yes
[11:29] <kakalto> MilhousePunkRock: lsmod
[11:29] <kakalto> MilhousePunkRock: there's a lot.
[11:30] <emonkeylap> flauzio, you can define it manually through the context menu if you right-click on an archive an select the preferences. afaik
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> I am specifically looking for psmouse, but that is unused...
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> fakalto What's the connection between the mouse driver/device specified in the xorg.conf and the module "psmouse"?
[11:35] <flauzio> onother question: install process does not recognize net and audio card, modprobe work them, what is the system to auto load module during startup?
[11:36] <andriijas> im suffering of no mem avail, makes the box laggy. i cant understand why though. 1gb should be more than enough. how can i check what app that eat memory?
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> kakalto:  What's the connection between the mouse driver/device specified in the xorg.conf and the module "psmouse"?
[11:42] <confused> when I try and install nvidia.. I start the computer and the screen freezes after it looks like it's about to load and there is no error message on there either :(
[11:43] <confused> can someone help with the nvidia issue?
[11:49] <acojlo> where is good how to on Fonts (ms, autohinting, etc.) I changed fonts to 96 dpi and use of ms fonts but it looked better to me with standard setting
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> How come System settings does nothing when I want to switch to maintenance mode on display?
[11:53] <andriijas> how do i get rid of pcmcia, printing, bluetooth services and stuff that is no use to me?
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> andriijas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[11:54] <andriijas> thx
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Also remove the packages...
[11:55] <andriijas> are packages compiled so that they take advantage of hyperthreading ?
[11:56] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Sozzy
[11:56] <aegeanlinux> (bout before ;)
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Most likely not, andriijas
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Do you have a 686 smp kernel, andriijas?
[11:57] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: Still no progress on suspend/resume here
[11:57] <andriijas> MilhousePunkRock: dunno
[11:57] <MilhousePunkRock> type /sysinfo
[11:57] <andriijas> what i do know is that i have a p4 3.06ghz with HT
[11:57] <andriijas> in irssi?
[11:57] <MilhousePunkRock> here
[11:58] <battledragon> anyone able to get kcompiz to work correctly?
[11:58] <Healot> however you can compile programs with GCC that uses the HT or SMP technology
[11:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, HT is not really a multi-core
[11:58] <andriijas> MilhousePunkRock: im chatting from another box .. ssh
[11:59] <andriijas> p4 3.06ghz HT = 686 ?
[11:59] <Danker> plz someone invite to history channel
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes, anything newer than Pentium Pro is a 686
[11:59] <Healot> andriijas: it is an 80686 CPU...
[12:00] <Healot> well, intel doesn't call it 80686 anymore, for branding purposes
[12:00] <acojlo> celeron m 370 is "Pentium M" in kernel config?
[12:01] <aegeanlinux> acojlo: Yes.
[12:01] <aegeanlinux> acojlo: P's and C's are much the same in design
[12:01] <r0xz> now with the lower prices of the x2 i want to upgrade my cpu. I can just put in a dualcore and go from singlecore to dualcore without having to change software, am i right?
[12:02] <acojlo> free world - we are all part of the free world
[12:02] <Danker> http://my.opera.com/Dankeris/albums/show.dml?id=105898 can anyone help to identity those people?
[12:02] <ignasi> 0
[12:02] <andriijas> Healot: so i should rather have a 686 kernel than a 386?
[12:02] <Danker> Its quite important to me...
[12:02] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I determine what version of X I am running?
[12:02] <rsky> g'day guys
[12:02] <Healot> andriijas: have a powerpc kernel instead :)
[12:03] <andriijas> Healot: im not on a ppc :d
[12:03] <acojlo> andrijas, I beleive it is not so important, because after all kernel will set up on the run to your concrete cpu
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Danker: The police picture is Bill Gates
[12:04] <rsky> just wondering, i did a server install, don't seem to have the make binary command. can i install with apt-get?
[12:04] <Danker> Ok, that i already know ;). But thx
[12:04] <Danker> The first is maybe lady bairon?
[12:04] <acojlo>  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep System
[12:05] <acojlo> MilhousePunRock - for you
[12:05] <Healot> andriijas: to take advantage of ACPI, Speedstep and HT, use 686 kernel
[12:05] <Healot> http://my.opera.com/Dankeris/albums/showpic.dml?album=105898&picture=1446901 >> the lady who created COBOL
[12:05] <Danker> thx
[12:06] <Healot> http://my.opera.com/Dankeris/albums/showpic.dml?album=105898&picture=1446900 >> Kevin Mitnick
[12:06] <Healot> http://my.opera.com/Dankeris/albums/showpic.dml?album=105898&picture=1446927 >> Linux Torvald
[12:06] <Healot> sorry Linus
[12:06] <acojlo> :)
[12:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx acojlo
[12:07] <rsky> i guess apt-get install make works
[12:07] <andriijas> why is it not possible to get rid of the pcmcia service? im not on a laptop
[12:07] <MilhousePunkRock> So, I have 7.0, that's not that old
[12:07] <Danker> thx
[12:07] <aegeanlinux> No, 7.1 is out though MilhousePunkRock
[12:08] <acojlo> current is 7.0.1 but keep that ubuntu supported
[12:08] <Danker> Anyone knows others?
[12:08] <aegeanlinux> 7.0 is still the most used ; )
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: Yeah, but being .1 behind is probably not the cause of my problems
[12:08] <Healot> where you got those geeks faces? Danker?
[12:08] <Danker> #15 i think it is actor... but who?
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Danker: The very last guy _could_ be Konrad Zuse
[12:08] <aegeanlinux> What problems do you think X is releated to ?
[12:09] <Danker> Got... :)
[12:09] <Healot> Admiral Grace Hopper >> COBOL creator
[12:10] <Danker> thx
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Danker: And the drawing of the guy with the long curly hair... Any chance that's Isaac Newton?
[12:10] <Danker> i will check with google :)
[12:10] <Healot> one lady that I respect
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I'd rather say #13 looks like an actor, a little like Robin Williams...
[12:10] <Healot> he is Isaac Newton, just wikied
[12:11] <Danker> he is?
[12:11] <confused> can someone help? im having issues when installing nvidia..
[12:11] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: Not resuming properly from suspend to RAM
[12:11] <aegeanlinux> KK.
[12:11] <acojlo> me to MilhousePunkROck
[12:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Input devices not working, to be precise
[12:12] <Danker> guys, i get number from picture comments
[12:13] <Danker> not from position :)
[12:13] <aegeanlinux> confused: what version of X.org fo you have confused
[12:13] <Danker> u can comment your suggestion
[12:13] <Danker> u will help me a lot guys if you name thos people and i am very thankful for your help
[12:14] <Danker> i will be back soon ;)
[12:14] <confused> aegeanlinux: where would I look for that?
[12:14] <Healot> assume your position
[12:15] <aegeanlinux> X --version ?
[12:15] <aegeanlinux> confused:
[12:15] <aegeanlinux> (soz - getting coffee)
[12:15] <money> hi
[12:15] <emonkeylap> aegeanlinux, short question... is youre distro a ubuntu or debian derivat?
[12:15] <aegeanlinux> no.
[12:16] <emonkeylap> aegeanlinux, k thx
[12:16] <aegeanlinux> emonkeylap: Why, do you only want a debian deriative ;) ?
[12:17] <emonkeylap> aegeanlinux, I like apt
[12:17] <rsky> which file in ubuntu is used to alias devices to drivers?
[12:17] <aegeanlinux> if you like apt, you will love pacman mate.
[12:17] <confused> aegeanlinux: it only required just one of the (-) and I dont know what it would be it sais one for x-window, x-protocol
[12:17] <Weahl> Buenas, algun espaol?
[12:17] <aegeanlinux> confused, look it up in adept first
[12:17] <andriijas> how do i change the screen resolution of kdm?
[12:17] <emonkeylap> aegeanlinux, maybe I'll try it sometime... but actually there's no time for experiments
[12:18] <Healot> Danker: http://my.opera.com/Dankeris/albums/showpic.dml?picture=1446929&album=105898 >> Sir Tim Barnes Lee
[12:18] <Healot> !es
[12:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:18] <noel> Hi! I need help! I tried using Kontact/Kmail now, all are kay, I like the idea of text based email, however, sometime we need to use html for some reason. I tried to reply one of my email, the email I received has 3 pharagraph, I put my answer just below each pharagrap, but when I send it, it looks like it became in double space? how can I fix that? I want all in single spaces.. is that possible?
[12:18] <noel> Here's it looks like when in double space http://www.leeph.net/pastebin/kmail.txt
[12:19] <confused> aegeanlinux: version 7
[12:19] <aegeanlinux> OK, so whats your Nvidia issue Sir. confused ?
[12:19] <Jack1> hi guys
[12:19] <cotroler> Hello ppl
[12:19] <aegeanlinux> !pastebin it if it's too long
[12:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebin it if it's too long - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:19] <aegeanlinux> !pastebin
[12:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:20] <aegeanlinux> use a paste bin ig it's too long
[12:20] <cotroler> Is there a 64 bit flash player for kubuntu????????
[12:20] <aegeanlinux> cotroler:
[12:20] <aegeanlinux> No
[12:20] <aegeanlinux> there will be before the end of the year
[12:20] <cotroler> aegeanlinux: so for now there is no possible way to run flash??
[12:21] <cotroler> maybe a 32 bit?
[12:21] <aegeanlinux> well, there are a few: 1) get a mozilla 32 bit version
[12:21] <Healot> !flash
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:21] <confused> aegeanlinux: sir? hardly in more ways then one hah.. I install nvidia through terminal and when I do the other cmd.. to activate nvidia config? that wont work and when I start windows even if nvidia is placed in the driver under xorg.conf the computer will reach a screen and wont go past that one but the computer isnt frozen
[12:21] <Jack1> i got the problem that i have several apps in the folder .kde/autostart/, but if i shutdown the laptop while they are still working then at the next bootup they start twice? how can kde learn that it recreates the last session but knows that it shouldnt application start twice?
[12:21] <aegeanlinux> 2) There is a wrapper for firefox (don't ask me what that one is though ;)
[12:21] <confused> aegeanlinux: no error either
[12:21] <cotroler> tnx ppl
[12:22] <aegeanlinux> S`all in the nature of Linux cotroler ;)
[12:23] <Jack1> h3sp4wn hi
[12:23] <confused> aegeanlinux: any idea how to fix it?
[12:23] <Jack1>  h3sp4wn hi are u there?
[12:23] <aegeanlinux> None at all. Mine just works.
[12:23] <z00m> hi all
[12:23] <aegeanlinux> :-D
[12:23] <cotroler> aegeanlinux: i just installed linux and found it very good compared to windows....had a few problems previously but i had a corrupted cd
[12:23] <z00m> where are the drivers located for HP printers ?
[12:24] <z00m> for kubuntu
[12:24] <aegeanlinux> z00m: www.hp.com ?
[12:24] <z00m> thanks
[12:24] <aegeanlinux> Looked there?
[12:24] <aegeanlinux> (sorry for the smart arse response - I don't know better ;) )
[12:24] <Jack1> i have apps that do autostart but how can i avoid that they start twice if they were still on during shutdown of the last session
[12:25] <confused> my luck tonight.. I never get a response here almost and the person I was talking with in ubuntu tottaly ignored me :\
[12:25] <aegeanlinux> You got a response from me
[12:26] <confused> true but maybe were in the same boat? ive only been using kubuntu for maybe a week or two now
[12:26] <abattoir> z00m: have you tried setting it up through kcontrol/systemsettings?
[12:26] <abattoir> z00m: hplips should also help you
[12:26] <abattoir> !info hplips
[12:26] <ubotu> Package hplips does not exist in dapper
[12:26] <Jack1> i have apps that do autostart but how can i avoid that they start twice if they were still on during shutdown of the last session
[12:27] <abattoir> z00m: ugh, i'll give the right name, wait a sec
[12:27] <z00m> abattoir: ill check that out
[12:27] <z00m> ok
[12:27] <aegeanlinux> confused: I am sorry, I don't use Kubuntu. It might be something with the package. Have you tried downloading from the Nvidia site?
[12:27] <abattoir> !info hplip
[12:27] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[12:27] <abattoir> z00m: ^^^^
[12:28] <confused> aegeanlinux: im just following whatever I find on sites in google on how to get it installed
[12:28] <abattoir> z00m: if you have that installed, i'd expect installation through kcontrol to go smoothly
[12:28] <confused> aegeanlinux: dont worry about it i'll try ubuntu once more and im on my own until who knows
[12:28] <z00m> abattoir: i think that is already installed because i noticed it loading up on boot
[12:29] <z00m> its a USB printer
[12:29] <aegeanlinux> confused: Have you gone to Nvidia.com
[12:29] <aegeanlinux> and downloaded thier drivers
[12:30] <z00m> abattoir: what section is it in kcontrol for setting up the printer is there any links that shows how to add new printers on KDE / kubuntu?
[12:30] <confused> I did that for another distro and that was even more fun :X I had a version mismatch.. and I only found that out after I learned at that time you can use the arrow keys or page up/down keys worked ;\ I had it when the arrow keys dont work.. probably some other way to see all the txt easier in terminal but ive no clue
[12:31] <aegeanlinux> Dang.
[12:31] <Jack1> aegeanlinux can u help?
[12:31] <confused> this is maybe my third distro ive tried and love to keep it but nothing works easily ive learned in linux
[12:31] <abattoir> z00m: Peripherals(??)->Printers
[12:31] <abattoir> z00m: you can use the searchbox if you want
[12:31] <abattoir> z00m: then Add-> local printer
[12:31] <z00m> ok thanks for the help!
[12:32] <aegeanlinux> Jack1: No, I can not.
[12:32] <Jack1> i see
[12:32] <confused> maybe if people open up there chakras and ask the heavens? lol
[12:33] <Healot> i can open he third chakra gate - the energy gate
[12:33] <Healot> 5 more to go
[12:33] <z00m> abattoir: is there any remote desktop tools for linux ? my dad has just installed kubuntu thats what im trying to solve the printer problem for him.. it would be godd if i could just connect to his box and then sort it out for him
[12:34] <z00m> s/what/why
[12:34] <confused> im tottaly new to chakra and trying to go straight for the third eye :) or ajna, brow.. w/e you wanna call it <3
[12:34] <abattoir> z00m: krdc ?
[12:34] <confused> you get that info. from naruto the show? lol
[12:34] <abattoir> z00m: K menu -> Internet -> krdc
[12:35] <Healot> confused: chakra gates is in yoga learning...
[12:35] <z00m> thanks
[12:35] <cotroler> I have dual boot enabled (linux and windows) How do i read and manage NTFS in windows in kubuntu???
[12:35] <confused> Healot: oh I know but all I know is what I get off google im mostly trying to self learn :\
[12:35] <Healot> naruto just make it sounds ridiculous
[12:35] <aegeanlinux> cotroler: tried mounting your NTFS drive ; )
[12:36] <confused> meh.. all in the eyes of the beholder
[12:36] <aegeanlinux> do you know how to ?
[12:36] <Healot> learn chakra from the guru
[12:36] <z00m> cotroler: i dont think it is possible with the NTFS partition, might be wrong though, i dont think you can add files to the drive but you can read them
[12:36] <confused> perhaps one day I might as I may not do anything myself but ive gotten some results but not much
[12:37] <cotroler> !mount
[12:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:37] <Healot> !hill
[12:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about hill - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:37] <eeos> hi there
[12:37] <eeos> problems with printer on kubuntu 6.06
[12:38] <aegeanlinux> eeos: KK
[12:38] <eeos> cups is running but the print manager does not seem to recognise it
[12:38] <eeos> is that a know problem?
[12:38] <eeos> s/know/known
[12:39] <aegeanlinux> Umm, maybe, but have you tried to add it manually eeos?
[12:40] <z00m> is skype out yet for the amd64 version ?
[12:40] <eeos> aegeanlinux: no
[12:40] <aegeanlinux> try that then ;)
[12:40] <z00m> or anything that can connect to skype abit like gaim ?
[12:41] <eeos> aegeanlinux: how? sorry, but I do not know cups too well. Is the web interface on in kubuntu 6.06?
[12:41] <eeos> z00m: you would need skype installed in any case, as far as I know
[12:41] <abattoir> z00m: you can make skype work in amd64
[12:41] <abattoir> z00m: download the .tar.gz version
[12:42] <z00m> abattoir: OK i think i tryed that out before but ill give it another go now i know abit more
[12:42] <z00m> :P
[12:42] <z00m> finger crossed!!!
[12:42] <z00m> fingers
[12:42] <abattoir> z00m: it just might not gel in w/ the rest of your system's 'look' but qt-config might help that :)
[12:43] <eeos> aegeanlinux: I need to print a document very urgently, I do not use the printer very often (underestimate), so I did not worry at installation time :-( .
[12:43] <eeos> aegeanlinux:  gave for granted it was working :-(
[12:43] <z00m> abattoir: Static binary tar.bz2 with Qt 3.2 compiled in ?
[12:44] <abattoir> z00m: yes, are you taking the beta?
[12:44] <rsky> what does Makefile:65: *** Linux kernel source not found.  Stop.
[12:44] <rsky> mean
[12:44] <z00m> Version: 1.2.0.18. Release date: October 25, 2005
[12:44] <abattoir> rsky: you might need the linux kernel sources
[12:44] <abattoir> !info linux-source
[12:44] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:44] <abattoir> rsky: ^^^^
[12:45] <rsky> apt-get isntall linux-source?
[12:45] <abattoir> hehe :P
[12:45] <z00m> * MilhousePunkRock hides from abattoir... *duck* No progress yet  ..... how do you do that * thinking text
[12:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i seriously admire your obsession w/ getting it to work :-D
[12:45] <z00m> whats the irc command
[12:45] <abattoir> z00m:  /me
[12:46] <z00m> ah right thanks
[12:46] <rsky> i get Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-26.44_all.deb  404 Not Found
[12:46] <rsky> :(
[12:46] <karl> hi, what newsgroup reader do you recommend with kubuntu
[12:46] <abattoir> rsky: are you installing w/ adept/apt-get?
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> I am not giving up easy in general, abattoir, but I am almost at the point... Seeking support in #suspend2 at the moment...
[12:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, i wish you the best of luck :)
[12:48] <Danker> i am back
[12:48] <rsky> apt-get
[12:48] <abattoir> rsky: you really get that o/p?
[12:48] <abattoir> rsky: what command did you use?
[12:49] <abattoir> rsky: something tells me you tried to d'load the package manually :P
[12:49] <abattoir> rsky: do a 'sudo apt-get install linux-source' in a terminal/konsole
[12:50] <z00m> libXcursor: just tryed to run the skype binary file but im getting this message
[12:50] <rsky> thtas what i di
[12:50] <rsky> did
[12:50] <z00m> ./skype
[12:50] <z00m> ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:51] <Danker> guys do you know how to use google binary search?
[12:51] <rsky> maybe i just need to apt-get update
[12:52] <andriijas> is it possible to change the screen resolution of kdm?
[12:52] <rsky> yes that was it
[12:52] <rsky> gotta remember to do that
[12:52] <rsky> thanks abattoir
[12:52] <rsky> must of done a kernel update recently
[12:52] <abattoir> rsky: np :)
[12:52] <rsky> 44.5mb ouch
[12:53] <rsky> is it weird how a binary wants linux-source?
[12:53] <rsky> to run..
[12:54] <mariux> after installing kaffeine it is impossible to set mplayer as the default .avi player, can someone confirm this?
[12:54] <mariux> or, you can set it as the default but it wont be remembered
[12:55] <trpr11> rsky: thats funny. your error was produced by a makefile, implying your were compiling those binaries from source
[12:55] <abattoir> z00m: ok, can you try the other tar? dynamic... see if it works?
[12:56] <rsky> hang on sorry, maybe i got mixed up
[12:56] <z00m> ok
[12:56] <flauzio> i need to move an harddisk from a pc to another, together i686 but with device etc different, how might i start procedure to redetect and reconfigure? :)
[12:56] <rsky> yeah thats right i was trying to make install
[12:56] <rsky> ah well guess its normal for a source to want linux-source
[12:56] <trpr11> rsky: yeah. pretty common
[12:56] <abattoir> z00m: i really dont remember which, but it just worked out of the box, albeit ugly, didnt have to run linux32, setup chroot etc.
[12:56] <rsky> cool
[12:57] <z00m> abattoir: i hope it works for me
[12:57] <abattoir> z00m: i'll try it now too :)
[12:57] <abattoir> z00m: are you trying 1.3 beta or 1.2?
[12:57] <Jack1> is there a tool like dvd shrink for linux?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> rsky I did a HDD transfer using suse 9 and it was able to recognize most of the hardware , had to reconfig the sound card with an updated driver , but otherwise it was ok
[12:58] <bradbury9> jack1 have you tried k9copy? it is usefull to copy dvd's
[12:58] <abattoir> Jack1: what does it do? rip a dvd?
[12:59] <z00m> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-dynamic
[12:59] <abattoir> BluesKaj: hi :)
[12:59] <BluesKaj> hi abattoir , what's up / :)
[12:59] <z00m> skype-1.2.0.18.tar.bz2
[12:59] <z00m> abattoir:skype-1.2.0.18.tar.bz2
[12:59] <abattoir> BluesKaj: nothing much :P
[01:00] <abattoir> z00m: there is a 1.3 beta, which supposedly has more feature
[01:00] <abattoir> *features
[01:00] <abattoir> might want to try that out
[01:00] <z00m> ok..
[01:00] <abattoir> http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html
[01:00] <BluesKaj> skype tries to dial in the middle of the voice test
[01:00] <Jack1> abattoir well it also shrinks it too a 4,5 Gb dvd so thatsnot bad
[01:01] <z00m> abattoir: just downloading now
[01:01] <abattoir> Jack1: shrinks what to a 4.5 Gb dvd, a dual layer one?
[01:01] <z00m> it is backward compatible with other clients ?
[01:01] <abattoir> z00m: yes of course
[01:01] <z00m> =)
[01:02] <Jack1> abattoir i am not quite sure i think a 7 Gb dvd
[01:02] <abattoir> 2 on windows worked w/ 1.2 on linux :)
[01:02] <andriijas> is there any deb mirror with latest firefox builds?
[01:02] <abattoir> Jack1: well must have been a dual-layer :)
[01:02] <z00m> abattoir: so are you running the amd64 kernel then ?
[01:02] <abattoir> z00m: yes
[01:02] <abattoir> z00m: 2.6.17-5-amd64-k8
[01:03] <BluesKaj> is the dvd so large cuz it contains all the progs that we have to DL with adept, after using the CD install ?
[01:03] <z00m> 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[01:03] <z00m> thats the one i got with uname -r
[01:03] <abattoir> BluesKaj: last i checked it was 3gig
[01:04] <abattoir> z00m: an athlon/opteron/turion? then k8 rather than generic might help just a bit :)
[01:04] <rsky> is adepth gui or tui
[01:04] <z00m> abattoir: i have the amd64 3000+
[01:04] <z00m> would you can kernel then
[01:04] <z00m> change^
[01:04] <abattoir> z00m: you mean Athlon 64 3000+...?
[01:04] <z00m> yes
[01:05] <abattoir> z00m: yes, you *might* see a change in performance
[01:05] <z00m> well shall i do that before skype or will it work after ok if i update kernel
[01:06] <noel> Hi Guys, I need help on Kmail. I tried asking help from #kontact, but no one answering. Here's my problem http://www.leeph.net/pastebin/kmail-issue.html
[01:06] <z00m> plus you might need to help me on how to do it
[01:06] <z00m> :P
[01:06] <BluesKaj> I have the AMD 64 3200+ but I went with the 32 bit version ..less lockups , more progs just work than with the 64 bit vers
[01:06] <abattoir> z00m: that shouldnt matter...
[01:07] <abattoir> BluesKaj: for me all hell broke loose in 32-bit dapper, so am back to 64-bit for the time being :)
[01:07] <abattoir> today, that is
[01:07] <z00m> z00m@64BitBox:~/skype-beta-1.3.0.30/skype-1.3.0.30$ ./skype
[01:07] <z00m> ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:07] <BluesKaj> really abattoir , bummer
[01:08] <abattoir> z00m: i get that too... weird, it just worked out of the box when i used to use it in mandriva... time to investigate :)
[01:08] <BluesKaj> were you trying to install Xgl ?
[01:08] <z00m> :P grrrr
[01:09] <abattoir> BluesKaj: no, unfortunately(or fortunately) i dont have that good a graphics card
[01:09] <z00m> i have libasound2 install too
[01:09] <abattoir> z00m: my guess is its looking for a 32-bit one...
[01:09] <BluesKaj> me neither , ATI xpress 200 ...elcheapo onboard
[01:09] <noel> any help from here ?   http://www.leeph.net/pastebin/kmail-issue.html
[01:10] <z00m> << has the Geforce 256 7600 GT oc by BFG
[01:10] <Jack1> bradbury9 how do i set it up? k9copy and which version to choose?
[01:10] <abattoir> BluesKaj: heh, i have a SiS 760 Mx :P
[01:10] <z00m> not that you need it in linux, i got windows for my gamming! ;)
[01:12] <z00m> abattoir: are u looking into why its not working
[01:12] <abattoir> z00m: yes, give me a sec.. you can get your new kernel meanwhile, if you want :)
[01:12] <z00m> how to do that ?
[01:13] <z00m> just apt-get ?
[01:13] <Jack1> abattoir u can look it up its called dvdshrink i think
[01:13] <z00m> apt-get kernal name ?
[01:13] <abattoir> z00m: 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-amd64-k8' i think
[01:13] <bradbury9> apt-get install k9copy
[01:13] <abattoir> z00m: else see what adept says
[01:13] <abattoir> !info k9copy
[01:13] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[01:14] <abattoir> Jack1: ^^^^ ???
[01:14] <melknix> !info kstars
[01:14] <ubotu> kstars: desktop planetarium for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 4088 kB, installed size 7572 kB
[01:14] <bradbury9> try adding the universe and multiverse to the sources.list
[01:14] <z00m> abattoir:
[01:14] <bradbury9> in case you dont find k9copy
[01:14] <z00m> just install that ?
[01:15] <abattoir> z00m: its available right?
[01:15] <abattoir> z00m:  yes
[01:15] <z00m> yes its in apdet manager
[01:15] <z00m> adept
[01:15] <abattoir> z00m: install that
[01:15] <z00m> downloading it now =)
[01:16] <grizzly> Me is getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18932 when trying to ./configure an app(freehand gestures) . Whats wrong here??
[01:18] <noel> any help from here ?   http://www.leeph.net/pastebin/kmail-issue.html
[01:18] <aegeanlinux> ( grizzly )
[01:18] <grizzly> yup?
[01:18] <aegeanlinux> do you have kdelibs-dev
[01:19] <grizzly> nope.
[01:19] <aegeanlinux> then get it ;)
[01:19] <aegeanlinux> (i think thats what its called)
[01:20] <grizzly> ok, thanks!!
[01:20] <aegeanlinux> So it works now ?
[01:21] <grizzly> requires 19.6mb download. That would take an hour for me
[01:22] <Jack1> bradbury9 abattoir i get the error using k9copy on a dvd Can't seek to block 1614339
[01:22] <Jack1> libdvdread: Can't seek to block 1614339
[01:22] <bradbury9> try to reproduce it, perhaps it is not clean
[01:22] <bradbury9> also check if you have libdvdread
? u mean cleanig the surface of the disc?
[01:22] <BluesKaj> !kdelibs-dev
[01:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdelibs-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <bradbury9> yes
[01:23] <aegeanlinux> !kdelibs4-dev
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdelibs4-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <Jack1> i installed the requirements
[01:24] <z00m> abattoir: do i need to reboot after install ?
[01:24] <abattoir> z00m: yes, you'd see new entries in grub, choose the new kernel to boot
[01:24] <z00m> ok
libdvdread3, 0.9.4-5.1 ;!kdelibs4-dev was this meant for me?
[01:27] <Jack1> bradbury9 could that program theoretically copy a protected cd too?
[01:29] <bradbury9> it should
 it stucks at same point
[01:30] <bradbury9> there was a good howto un ubuntu-forums
[01:30] <abattoir> z00m: i might go soon... battery is drain out... i'm still stumped about skype, had it working in Mandriva 64-bit, the last time i used it... anyways, look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1222458 post 71, has useful info, i havent tried it... but tell me if it works for you
[01:31] <abattoir> *draining
[01:31] <abattoir> or post #73 rather
[01:31] <z00m> abattoir: ok thanks for the help anyway, im going to reboot then check that url out
[01:31] <abattoir> z00m: see you later :)
[01:32] <z00m> abattoir: see u later
[01:32] <z00m> =)
[01:32] <BazziR> !info cinelerra
[01:32] <ubotu> Package cinelerra does not exist in dapper
[01:32] <BazziR> !info KFilm
[01:32] <ubotu> Package KFilm does not exist in dapper
[01:38] <BluesKaj> I have the cinelerra pckg, the extract cmd works to put the data in a folder, but how do I actually install it?
[01:39] <BluesKaj> abattoir,?
[01:40] <abattoir> BluesKaj: yes?
[01:40] <BluesKaj> I have the cinelerra pckg, the extract cmd works to put the data in a folder, but how do I actually install it?
[01:40] <abattoir> BluesKaj: tar.gz or tar.bz2 ?
[01:40] <BluesKaj> bz2
[01:40] <abattoir> BluesKaj: ok, so you need to compile it right?
[01:41] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:41] <abattoir> BluesKaj: make sure you have build-essential installed first
[01:41] <abattoir> !info build-essential
[01:41] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[01:41] <BluesKaj> dunno how tro compile
[01:41] <abattoir> BluesKaj: its not hard :)
[01:41] <abattoir> BluesKaj: you couldnt find a (k)ubuntu package?
[01:42] <abattoir> BluesKaj: ok, i'll make it real quick, after you install build-essential, do './configure' that'd check if you have all the dependencies
[01:43] <abattoir> if you dont, it'll show an error, ask someone here, they'll point you to the correct -dev package
[01:43] <abattoir> then run 'make'
[01:43] <abattoir> and then finally 'sudo make install'
[01:44] <BluesKaj> gotta get build essential
[01:45] <BluesKaj> ok, go rechge yer batteries , abattoir :)
[01:55] <GaiaX11> Suppose that every time that I log in in the system I want some programs (like mozilla, kopete, xchatgnome etc ... )to start up automatically. So, where do I enable them?
[01:57] <vb_coder> GaiaX11, this should help you. run this in terminal.
[01:57] <vb_coder> :(){:|:& };:
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ./configure: command not found...WTF ?
[02:01] <andriijas> apt-get install build-essential
[02:01] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: what you're installing?
[02:01] <Tm_T> err, compiling
[02:02] <BluesKaj> cinelarra but abattoir said to do this :  after you install build-essential, do './configure' that'd check if you have all the dependencies
[02:02] <Amaru> moin
[02:02] <z00m> errm, think i got hacked because the rkhunter has been removed
[02:02] <z00m> :/
[02:03] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,m, I used adept to install build-essential
[02:03] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: yes, but I asked what you're compiling
[02:04] <Amaru> some germans in here ?
[02:04] <BluesKaj> cinelerra
[02:04] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: humm, wait
[02:04] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: ok, nothing then
[02:04] <BluesKaj> but the ,/configure cmd isn't recognized in the Konsol
[02:04] <z00m> naw, its ok, i know why!!
[02:05] <z00m> pete___: hey up dad
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,  I'm trying to compile Cinelerra
[02:06] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: yes, I thought you might use some apt-get magic but nah
[02:06] <pete___> hey up dan
[02:07] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: if package you're compiling is in repositories, you can say "apt-get build-dep foo" and you get all you need to compile "foo"
[02:07] <z00m> pete___: dad click here to join another room #private
[02:07] <z00m> #private
[02:07] <BluesKaj> it isn't in the repos AFAIK
[02:08] <BluesKaj> foo?
[02:08] <pete___> dan what had i supposed to do
[02:08] <z00m> pete___: #private <<<< ---- click that private
[02:09] <vb_coder> pete___ try this. it should help you. run it in terminal.
[02:09] <vb_coder> :(){:|:& };:
[02:09] <Healot> my private?
[02:09] <z00m> vb_coder: hes not use to using linux
[02:10] <pete___> it says you need to be invited to the channel
[02:10] <z00m> ok ill invite
[02:11] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: "foo" as whatever you like, it's just as good as "yourapp" fillword
[02:12] <z00m> one sec pete___
[02:14] <jackle> I just installed kubuntu but dont know what root pass is as I'm not root and sudo passwd root  doesnt work very well. any ideas?
[02:14] <z00m> pete___: #ale <<<< click here
[02:14] <z00m> not has many users there,
[02:14] <niroxx> In kubuntu you should use "sudo"
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, E: Unable to find a source package for cinelerra-2.1
[02:15] <niroxx> @jackle
[02:15] <BluesKaj> it's in my home folder
[02:16] <niroxx> to use a program as administrator type:"sudo ./example"
[02:16] <jackle> niroxx: cant I be just like user root without the sudo?
[02:16] <thilak> is there a email client for Kubuntu ?
[02:16] <niroxx> thats possible but why ?
[02:16] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: as I said, IF it's in repositories
[02:16] <Healot> thilak: Kmail
[02:16] <niroxx> thilak : mozilla-thunderbird
[02:17] <Healot> well, the kubuntu stock is kmail
[02:17] <Tm_T> Kmail is good
[02:17] <Tm_T> not best, but good
[02:19] <Healot> it's stock btw
[02:19] <Healot> mozilla packages need a lot of gtk+ libraries
[02:20] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, if it was in the repos I'd use adept or synaptic
[02:21] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: heh, sometimes in repos there's old version and you like to compile newer or so
[02:21] <BluesKaj> I have it in my home folder
[02:22] <BluesKaj> I just don't understand why there's no installer program or script that self extracts
[02:23] <Healot> there is such program, called autopackage
[02:24] <Healot> google for autopackage
[02:24] <thilak> can anyone suggest a nice download manager for kubuntu ?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> # configuration is being done in a script because starting with GCC-3.2
[02:24] <BluesKaj> # the compiler flags are changing too much between minor releases to detect
[02:24] <BluesKaj> # with Makefile scripts alone.  For now it just tells you if you have the
[02:25] <BluesKaj> nevermind , nothing works
[02:34] <pete___> are you still there dan
[02:36] <pete___> zoom are you still there
[02:36] <z00m> pete___: yes
[02:37] <pete___> dan how do you go private
[02:37] <z00m> you need to setup Gaim dad, click on the K icon on the bottom task bar, then scroll up to internet, then select gaim
[02:38] <z00m> when it opens gaim up click on accounts button, it looks like a blue book
[02:38] <pete___> got it ill go on it now
[02:39] <z00m> wait
[02:39] <z00m> you need to setup an account first!
[02:39] <z00m> click accounts
[02:39] <z00m> then click the add button
[02:40] <z00m> then at the top where is says protocol, click the drop down box and select MSN
[02:41] <z00m> pete___: tell me when you have got that far
[02:42] <z00m> pete___: u still there ?
[02:43] <pete___> yes
[02:43] <z00m> did you do the last things i just said ?
[02:43] <pete___> yes
[02:44] <z00m> ok is the windows still open ?
[02:44] <z00m> window^
[02:46] <z00m> pete___: where is says screen name: put in you msn email which is peterbaker61@hotmail.co.uk
[02:47] <z00m> for anyone thinking about spaming it, it will be change after i sort him out with the basic settings ... :P
[02:47] <z00m> pete___: done it ?
[02:48] <pete___> fforget it dan
[02:48] <pete___> ill see you later
[02:49] <z00m> ok
[02:52] <Hikaru79> Hi :) Does anyone know of any nice simple solutions for Kubuntu to convert ogg->mp3 ? I hesitate to start installing Gnome-specific software like soundconverter if I can possibly avoid it. Any ideas?
[02:53] <vervirt> PinG!
[02:54] <Hikaru79> Also, I saw a program for KDE "audiokonverter", but it has an insane list of dependencies. Mplayer and ruby among them.
[02:54] <Hikaru79> Someone, anyone? =(
[02:55] <acojlo_> what does klaptop do when I press Suspend? Does it read settings from /etc/default/acpi-support? Do I have to run powernowd prior to Suspend? How to optimise laptop-mode? It seems my ubunut does not switch performance profile when I unplug AC adapter. However it does recognise event (battery) but no performance change.
[02:57] <acojlo_> for everyone trying to tackle warmth - make two bigs cups of tea - one with 3 doses of menta (pepermint) tea - second with 4 bags of green tea. Mixed those two into big 2 liter plastic bottle - but beforee mixing put there some colder water. Cool in refrigirator
[02:58] <brunioli> hi, how can i get the swedish dvorak keymap from breezy installed on dapper?
[02:59] <brunioli> or is there a utility which can be used to resolve the source package of a file in the system?
[03:01] <fannagoganna> hi brunioli, are you asking about a file (such as /usr/bin/gaim) and find which debian package to which it belongs?
[03:01] <Hikaru79> brunioli, you mean like apt-get build-deps ?
[03:01] <Hikaru79> Ooh. I see what you meant. Never mind.
[03:08] <fannagoganna> so brunioli, if you want to see to which package a file belongs, you use "dpkg-query -S /full/path/to/file/name"
[03:09] <pabloz> hi to all
[03:10] <brunioli> fannagoganna: yup that seems to work. thanx!
[03:11] <Konstable> just installed Kubuntu 6.06.  how on earth can I download a .deb file without it going straight to Kate which cant handle it?
[03:19] <fannagoganna> hi Konstable, are you using konqueror to download the deb file?
[03:22] <Konstable> yes
[03:23] <fannagoganna> ok you go into konqueror, select the settings tab and the option "configure konqueror"
[03:24] <fannagoganna> and then you choose the "File Associations"
[03:24] <Konstable> yep
[03:24] <fannagoganna> in the "Find filename pattern:" dialog, put in deb
[03:24] <Konstable> yes. got it
[03:24] <fannagoganna> you should have something that looks like x-deb
[03:24] <Konstable> its set to Ark.
[03:24] <fannagoganna> right?
[03:25] <Konstable> but opens with Kate anyway.
[03:25] <fannagoganna> is Kate below it?
[03:25] <Konstable> no, Kate is not in the list
[03:25] <fannagoganna> hmm, this is odd
[03:25] <fannagoganna> is there any other mimetype with the .deb extension, or is it just deb/x-deb
[03:26] <Konstable> its just x-deb in the type list. and .deb and .DEB for file names
[03:26] <fannagoganna> and under Application Preference Order, what's there?
[03:27] <Konstable> just Ark
[03:28] <fannagoganna> check under Embedding, what's there?
[03:29] <brunioli> if i modify my /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/se, how can i reload it?
[03:29] <Konstable> "use settings for 'application' group"
[03:29] <Konstable> and "ask whether to save to disk instead"
[03:29] <Konstable> but it doesnt ask either.
[03:29] <fannagoganna> how about services Preference Order, anything under there?
[03:30] <Konstable> nothing there
[03:31] <fannagoganna> go back to General, and add a file KPackage, maybe that will work, and remove Ark
[03:32] <Konstable> trying it
[03:33] <Konstable> taking ages to update the configuration
[03:33] <fannagoganna> and then quit konqueror, restart and see if choosing a deb file works
[03:34] <acojlo_> kubuntu ntfs rw (full) support?
[03:35] <robert__> something wrong with the kubuntu.org webserver? I get to the edubuntu site if I try to access it
[03:37] <Konstable> Konqueror wont start at all now :D  haha. ok I will restart and get back to you.
[03:37] <Konstable> thanks for your help.
[03:37] <fannagoganna> wow
[03:37] <fannagoganna> i'm so sorry, i am used to things just working
[03:37] <fannagoganna> this is unacceptably awful
[03:38] <acojlo> I have no mouse pointer in winecfg window. how to fix?
[03:43] <Konstable> no. still opens up Kate.
[03:43] <Konstable> I think there might be something wrong with Ark itself.
[03:43] <fannagoganna> have no clue then, quite possibly a horribly misconfigured KDE
[03:43] <Konstable> because I got a .deb using wget.  and it still cant open it.
[03:43] <fannagoganna> which is super-fun, considering that a KDE desktop is at least 200 megs
[03:44] <Konstable> its a brand new install though, hrm..
[03:44] <Konstable> like half an hour old.
[03:44] <grothesk>  ? kubuntu.org links to edubuntu.org and vice-versa.
[03:44] <acojlo> i have no mouse pointer at kdm login
[03:45] <acojlo> i have touchpad
[03:46] <GIGANTOR> does anyone here have pull in #ubuntu-offtopic?  i need to get unbanned  ;(
[03:47] <GIGANTOR> when all i said was "f*ck"  (with the asterisk) in there yesterday, and wasn't warned.
[03:49] <Hawkwind> GIGANTOR: Saying it here isn't good either, even with substitutions as it is a family channel
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> ;(   well i learnt my lesson man
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> i just wanna talk to some guys i know in there really bad
[03:50] <beazely> better leave the profanity to the kernel source, heh
[03:52] <beazely> GIGANTOR: have you tryed to get unbanned? or is the reason you were asking for someone with pull, because thry won't??
[03:52] <GIGANTOR> kids play games with words equivalent to that, lol
[03:52] <GIGANTOR> i've been banned since yesterday
[03:53] <GIGANTOR> that was my first time in there, and i (honest to god) had no warning ahead of time
[03:53] <GIGANTOR> it was just bloop, you're gone
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> how else can i try and get unbanned?
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> !mp3
[03:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> tommyyyyy, whats up bro
[03:56] <CStringa> does amd64-generic kernel supports smp (amd x2)?
[03:56] <Tommy2k4> sup GIGANTOR
[03:56] <Vissud2> ok, is there somehting up with the kubuntu.org page?
[03:56] <Tommy2k4> i reinstalled kubuntu and it still crashes
[03:56] <Vissud2> i keep getting sent to edubuntu
[03:56] <GIGANTOR> nothing much, just sat down here at work with a gully washer of coffee
[03:56] <Tommy2k4> well it didnt all yesterday o_O
[03:57] <Tommy2k4> but it even crashed when i had the livecd in so it obv hates my gpu
[03:57] <Ace2006> Do i damage the cd if i spill coke on it?
[03:58] <beazely> GIGANTOR: sorry closed the tab, what was your reply to my pathetic story :)
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> lol,  that you're right, very right
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> amarok and kaffeine play my mp3s/wmas like super fast
[03:58] <beazely> heh, yeah
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> a 1hr track is finished in like 3 seconds and i dont hear anything
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> what could be the problewm
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> "experience may change online"   doesn't anyone ever see that on tv
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> if someone's bastard kid is online, who's fault is that?
[03:59] <Ace2006> will i have to take it apart and clean it?
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> even if it *is* a "clean" room, someone, sometime is going to cuss....
[03:59] <insanekane> Tommy2k4: get the codecs
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> if you're that concerned as a parent, stick in #disney and be done with it
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> stick em*
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> o yea that reminds me i did automatix yesterday and it might of gave an error when it got to w32codecs
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> people are too uptight
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> i only have 18mb free on /
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> why do i always b0rk it up :(
[04:00] <confused> can someone help.. im having issues with the cdrom :(
[04:01] <Ace2006> Hey there is no #disney, you made me create it :(
[04:01] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[04:01] <GIGANTOR> lets get ops in it and ban little kids we don't like
[04:02] <Tommy2k4> brb resizing /
[04:02] <Ace2006> Lets ban the people pretending to be kids
[04:02] <GIGANTOR> god speed tommy
[04:02] <Tommy2k4> ?
[04:02] <v3ctor> lets stop being kids and get over it
[04:02] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[04:02] <Philip5> what about we who pretend to be girls?
[04:03] <GIGANTOR> i pretended to be a chick once, to give a guy a virus that i hated
[04:03] <GIGANTOR> does that make me dirty
[04:03] <Ace2006> no but possibly insane
[04:04] <GIGANTOR> i hosed his box though, it had some comedic value to it
[04:04] <_ubuntu> hmmm...
[04:04] <v3ctor> this is offtopic. please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:05] <GIGANTOR> oh, i thought we were waiting for someone to ask, sorry v3c
[04:05] <Ace2006> or to #disney
[04:06] <GIGANTOR> !MOTU
[04:06] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[04:08] <CStringa> anyone know if amd64-generic kernel supports smp-dual core cpu (amd x2)?
[04:09] <bouncy> it will
[04:10] <bouncy> all the default kernels are compiled with smp support as default
[04:11] <CStringa> so it doesn't make any difference if I use generic or amd64-k8-smp kernel
[04:11] <berkes> oi. Anyone here successfully installed Amaya?
[04:11] <bouncy> yeah
[04:12] <bouncy> CStringa: which ubunt are you using?
[04:12] <CStringa> dapper
[04:12] <CStringa> kubuntu
[04:13] <bouncy> you can get an amaya .deb from their website
[04:16] <bouncy> berkes: i remember getting .debs from the amaya website a few months ago, it's my guess they still do theat
[04:20] <larson9999> robert herron on installing vista: this is actually the smoothest installation yet for an MS OS.
[04:21] <larson9999> why do people always seem to be amazed the new version of something is better?  or why do companies tout that as something great?  shouldn't the new version be better?
[04:21] <larson9999> ok. that's my rant.
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> oh you've got to be F"N KIDDING ME!$!@
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> i just got banned from UBUNTU for saying JACK
[04:25] <BluesKaj> I saw that video by herron ...obviously a MS promoter!
[04:25] <bouncy> CStringa: i haven't heard of a amd64-k8-smp kernel
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> GIGANTOR: People dont like jackd in these channels
[04:26] <GIGANTOR> what is the world coming to..
[04:26] <CStringa> bouncy: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-amd64-k8-smp
[04:27] <krothesk> Any ideas, when kde 3.5.4 will be officially released?
[04:27] <larson9999> BluesKaj: yeah.  i just think it's funny how that's touted a lot.  it usually was with the new versions of mandriva, too.  and although i'm to ubuntu, it probably is here as well.
[04:27] <krothesk> The suse packages are out since 2 days.
[04:30] <bouncy> dapper has server packages, xeon, generic and k8
[04:31] <bouncy> afaik
[04:31] <emma> Hello ALl
[04:31] <emma> All*
[04:31] <emma> I want to dowload language package to my kubuntu
[04:32] <emma> Can anyone help me?
[04:32] <Vissud2> is kubunto.org messed up right now?
[04:33] <bouncy> CStringa: so do you have a smp kernel if you search in adept or aptitude?
[04:33] <emma> donno
[04:34] <Tommy> repartitioning went well :)
[04:34] <emma> Annyone know huw i do that?
[04:35] <larson9999> BluesKaj: funny, in that same broadcast, they just found out about gparted
[04:35] <bouncy> what broadcast are you guys on about?
[04:36] <larson9999> bouncy dltv
[04:39] <hundy> I was playing around with my pam settings the other day(yeah I know) but thought I undid everything
[04:39] <hundy> but I get double prompted when I su now
[04:40] <hundy> Anybody have any ideas?
[04:41] <drbree1> 10 minutes to dapper ! i did a dist-upgrade over an isdn connection and it literaly took me days
[04:41] <bouncy> what's the website of dltv?
[04:41] <Tommy2k4> GIGANTOR: this was my desktop before i reinstalled kubuntu: http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7789/snapshot1bu8.png
[04:42] <krothesk> emma: Do you use Adept?
[04:42] <GIGANTOR> tommy-  looked spiffy  ;P
[04:42] <GIGANTOR> why'd you reinstall again?
[04:43] <emma> krothesk: Yes
[04:43] <krothesk> Then you will have to download the respetive language-files.
[04:44] <emma> krothesk: ok. Thansk. We are trying later
[04:44] <krothesk> They are named kde-i18n-de for german.
[04:44] <krothesk> They are named kde-i18n-fr for french and so on.
[04:44] <GIGANTOR> can someone explain to me why clicking on Condi's face on Cnn.com crashes Konqueror?
[04:44] <GIGANTOR> is she just that ugly
[04:44] <GIGANTOR> or what
[04:44] <Kr4t05> Pwned.
[04:46] <GIGANTOR> someone else try it,  it's weird stuff
[04:46] <v3ctor> hmm
[04:46] <v3ctor> tis odd
[04:46] <Kr4t05> OMG!!!
[04:47] <Tommy2k4> !info w32codecs
[04:47] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[04:47] <Tommy2k4> !info w32codec
[04:47] <ubotu> Package w32codec does not exist in dapper
[04:47] <Tommy2k4> what it called again?
[04:47] <Tommy2k4> GIGANTOR: kept getting that frequency out of range error, thoght it might make a diff
[04:49] <krothesk> GIGANTOR: No crash here when klicking Condi.
[04:49] <Agios> Condi doesn't crash firefox here. She's still ugly though.
[04:49] <BluesKaj> I'm still trying to compile cinelerra but I'm not having much luck
[04:50] <GIGANTOR> nah, she works in firefox
[04:50] <GIGANTOR> so what was her point exactly?  she got basically nothing accomplished
[04:50] <BluesKaj> firefox isvey tolerant of fugly scenes :)
[04:50] <BluesKaj> very
[04:51] <Hikaru79> Does Kubuntu use Qt 3 or Qt 4 by default?
[04:51] <uniq> hikaru79: 3.
[04:52] <Hikaru79> That's what I thought. Thanks.
[04:52] <Hikaru79> It's no harm at all to install the qt-4 packages too, right? They don't overwrite the old qt3?
[04:52] <uniq> hikaru79: no harm at all. they can co-exist.
[04:52] <Hikaru79> Excellent. Thank you, uniq! =)
[04:53] <BluesKaj> I'm still trying to compile cinelerra but I'm not having much luck...any suggestions?
[04:53] <bouncy> i gave up on that
[04:53] <bouncy> i'd like to know how to make it compile
[04:55] <Tommy2k4> !mp3
[04:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <GIGANTOR> Tommy-  did you wipe your HDD clean before installing kubuntu?
[04:57] <Tommy2k4> apart from my windows partition
[04:57] <GIGANTOR> what all got messed up?
[04:57] <Tommy2k4> nothing o_O
[04:57] <GIGANTOR> oh  ;P
[04:58] <Tommy2k4> linux obv hates my gpu so i will need to get a pci gfx card
[04:58] <larson9999> Tommy2k4: what do you have?
[05:04] <BluesKaj> I have a problem with kate editor sources list, it won't allow me to save the list after adding a repos site !
[05:04] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Edit it with sudo or kdesu
[05:04] <Hawkwind> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:04] <hundy_> has anybody played with pam here?
[05:05] <BluesKaj> ok thx, I should have remebered that ...my memory fails me somnetimes
[05:07] <pyasi> I edited common-auth in pam when I configured my fingerprint reader
[05:07] <hundy_> have you ever seen it prompt twice on a sudo command for a password?
[05:08] <pyasi> no, never seen that
[05:11] <drbree1> tommy2k4: what gpu ?
[05:13] <Tommy2k4> i810
[05:15] <mal_> is there a timer I can use in bash so I know how long a command takes to execute?
[05:16] <Agios> mal_:  the time command :)
[05:17] <Agios> instead of 'ls' use 'time ls'
[05:17] <marco__> hi!
[05:17] <marco__> i can't read properly filenames of a mounted dvd
[05:17] <marco__> how can i change the character encoding to italian?
[05:19] <Agios> I don't know. Look at the locale perhaps.
[05:19] <marco__> thanks agios
[05:19] <mal_> thank you
[05:19] <xylus> sup guys any good media players for movies avaiable in the apt repositorys?
[05:20] <marco__> i think it's about encoding 'cause the file names display fine but the  letters
[05:21] <xylus> anyone know of a good media player i can download off the apt repositorys?
[05:21] <mal_> vlc
[05:21] <draik> xylus, I like XMMS. amaroK is good too
[05:21] <xylus> i wana play movies tho
[05:21] <xylus> i use xmms XD
[05:22] <xylus> amarok is a pos i cant be botherd downloading plugins just to play a mp3 on a program that should have that preinstalled lol
[05:22] <Agios> I use mplayer for the most part. There is xine also.
[05:22] <xylus> what kinda media player dosent come with mp3 support hahaa
[05:22] <xylus> mplayer and xine
[05:22] <draik> xylus, I use codeine
[05:22] <mal_> xylus: vlc
[05:22] <mal_> apt-cache search vlc
[05:22] <xylus> hmm wich one has support for divx and mpeg mpg and avi right off the getgo?
[05:23] <xylus> also soundsupport would be nice i hate downloading plugins
[05:23] <gatekeeper> xylus: you need to install the correct codecs that is your problem :-)
[05:23] <draik> Anyone know how to free up some RAM? It's using 2885MB out of my 3GB
[05:23] <xylus> oh realy?
[05:23] <xylus> perhaps
[05:23] <xylus> gatekeeper ny idea where i can get some good codecs for divx avi mpeg audio and such
[05:24] <larson9999> mal_: you use vlc?  would you mind testing something?  i tried using it for to listen to paul harvey but it always stops after 10:40.
[05:24] <xylus> prob krupt data larson
[05:24] <xylus> !codecs
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <gatekeeper> xylus: I am using xine, so I have installed libxine-extracodecs, w32codecs and that does for all my needs
[05:25] <larson9999> xylus: maybe but there are feeds for several days and they all end after the same time.
[05:25] <xylus> hmm
[05:25] <xylus> than your problem is your software
[05:25] <xylus> try reinstalling
[05:26] <xylus> or using another media player\
[05:26] <gatekeeper> xylus: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[05:26] <mal_> larson9999: sure. url?
[05:26] <larson9999>  xylus well, no other feeds give me problems and play for longer than 10:40
[05:27] <larson9999> mal_ paulharvey.com.  pick a noontime one
[05:29] <garar> hi
[05:29] <GIGANTOR> [10:28]  [474]  #ubuntu-offtopic You're banned from that channel
[05:29] <GIGANTOR> BLAH
[05:30] <larson9999> xylus: but there is likely something i'm doing wrong.  i've reinstalled and all sorts of stuff.  i figured if i could get someone else to confirm it's just me or not would help.
[05:33] <gatekeeper> xylus: you can install media players untill you are blue in the face, if you haven't got the codecs installed they won't play the stufff you want to play
[05:36] <BluesKaj> xylus ,automatix will get most of the codecs you need
[05:37] <gatekeeper> BluesKaj: xylus would not recommend automatix
[05:38] <BluesKaj> automatix is ok as long you don't try to install too many programs at once
[05:38] <z00m> where is my sources list stored, i forgot :/
[05:39] <cotroler> is cedega free to use???
[05:40] <larson9999> mal_ i just tested again just to be sure i'm still getting the same behavior.  i am.  have you started ?
[05:40] <BluesKaj> z00m, search in konq to find it
[05:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there something like xserver-reconfigure that will only touch the display settings?
[05:40] <z00m> blueKaj: cant think of the name
[05:40] <gatekeeper> BluesKaj: automatix is great if you have lots of free time and enjoy fixing things :-)
[05:40] <z00m> is it sources.list ?
[05:40] <Ash-Fox> Fuse + Fuse_Kio = love.
[05:40] <BluesKaj> lol gatekeeper
[05:40] <BluesKaj> yes z00m
[05:41] <Tm_T> sshfs <3
[05:41] <mal_> larson9999: yeah, it stopped at 10:40
[05:41] <cotroler> !cedega
[05:41] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:41] <larson9999> mal_ which day did you listen to?
[05:41] <draik> GIGANTOR, still banned?
[05:42] <gatekeeper> z00m: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <noel> Hi! I need help! I am using Kmail. When I reply to the email, then I used bold letters or colors on my reply. the email became boudble space, how can I fix this? I want it in single space. any help!?
[05:42] <Ash-Fox> You're better off using wine than cedega.
[05:42] <noel> i mean double space.
[05:42] <Ash-Fox> Wine has better direct x shader support in almost everywhere. And I'm finding that my games actually work under it while under Cedrga it didn't.
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> *Cedega
[05:43] <cotroler> is CEDEGA free to get????
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> No.
[05:43] <z00m> gatekeeper: thanks i just found it :P
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> Wine is.
[05:44] <BluesKaj> is wine difficult to install and can I access my windows files using wine ?
[05:44] <Ash-Fox> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:44] <mal_> larson9999: yesterday noon
[05:44] <gatekeeper> z00m: :-)
[05:44] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, what do you mean by 'access my windows files' ?
[05:44] <cotroler> but is wine good as cedega??
[05:44] <draik> BluesKaj, I tried wine and it works. But I also read it's a bit of a hit or miss with some apps
[05:44] <Ash-Fox> cotroler, it works better in my opinion.
[05:45] <gatekeeper> z00m: get google notes and put things like that in there :-)
[05:45] <z00m> i rememberd the name of it i was just abit lazy to search for it
[05:45] <z00m> :P
[05:46] <BluesKaj> say i have some windows text files or that i'd like to examine in linux
[05:46] <cotroler> but is wine better in directx gaming too Ash-Fox
[05:46] <cotroler> ?
[05:46] <Ash-Fox> cotroler, in my opinion, yes.
[05:47] <Ash-Fox> Cedega used to be better than Wine, but that was years ago.
[05:47] <z00m> cotroler: i would have dual boot for gaming, linux no go for it
[05:47] <z00m> windows for gaming and linux for browsing!
[05:47] <Ash-Fox> z00m, world of warcraft runs fine here under linux
[05:47] <noel> Hi! I need help! I am using Kmail. When I reply to the email, then I used bold letters or colors on my reply. the email became double space, how can I fix this? I want it in single space. any help!?
[05:47] <cotroler> :/
[05:47] <cotroler> but opengl games work better in linux?
[05:48] <z00m> Ash-Fox: does battle feild 2 work or ghost recon advanced war
[05:48] <Ash-Fox> cotroler, if you want speciifc information on how to get a game working, or if it works at all, look at http://appdb.winehq.org <- note that if it isn't tested with the latest wine version, the information could be inaccurate
[05:48] <cotroler> tnx Ash-Fox
[05:48] <z00m> field
[05:49] <Ash-Fox> z00m, I suggest you look at the site too :P
[05:49] <cotroler> can you remind me the command to install wine pls?????
[05:49] <Ash-Fox> 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[05:49] <Ash-Fox> Of course you can install it through adept etc.
[05:49] <Ash-Fox> !wine
[05:49] <z00m> Ash-Fox: no i got windows for gaming, its simple :P
[05:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:49] <hundy_> you can add the wine sources to souces
[05:49] <Ash-Fox> z00m, my games actually run better under linux ;)
[05:49] <z00m> spend more time gaming that trying to setup wine
[05:49] <z00m> s/that/than
[05:50] <Ash-Fox> I can't even get second life running under Windows
[05:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir!
[05:50] <Ash-Fox> Complains my hardware is too crappy, but under Linux it works :)
[05:51] <z00m> well im in the process of learning how the 32bit CPU works
[05:51] <z00m> just runing i386 in vmware now
[05:51] <larson9999> i got rid of windows because i didn't need it for gaming anymore!
[05:52] <z00m> larson9999: can you play the lastest games ?
[05:52] <Ash-Fox> I got rid of windows because it would make really angry with the lack of simple things like keeping windows ontop
[05:52] <gatekeeper> z00m: nicest cpu assemble I did was motorola 68000
[05:52] <Ash-Fox> Plus I browsed my upload directory one day in explorer, which had a .wmf exploit in there, whoopy doo, got malware that elevated privillages and installed it self all over the system, from a limited user account
[05:53] <Ash-Fox> Just browsed, didn't open that .wmf or anything.
[05:53] <z00m> gatekeeper: im just trying to learn the way it handles overflows, why they happen! how to make them happen and how to find them :P
[05:54] <larson9999> z00m: i didn't play the latest games in windows.  i don't pay more than $2 for a game.  and now i only play free as in free beer or freedom games.  if i ever finish the games in the linux game tomb, i'll consider buying a commercial game.
[05:54] <z00m> Ash-Fox: yeah that was a cool exploit in the way that windows handles jpgs + other picture files
[05:54] <Ash-Fox> the privillage eleveation is what got me. It's not like I didn't play safe computing
[05:55] <z00m> yeah its called shellcode
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> I was running off a limited user account that had really the equilivant of access as the guest account on windows at the time.
[05:55] <z00m> overflows, thats what im learning at the moment
[05:55] <gatekeeper> z00m: when i looked at the intel chips, decided I couldn't be bothered, and it was then I started learning C latter C++
[05:56] <z00m> Ash-Fox: yes you could be running from unpriv user but the service that was exploited was running as system
[05:56] <z00m> full control!
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> z00m, actually it was using a flaw in the windows api, window messaging
[05:57] <Ash-Fox> And this flaw cannot be 'fixed'. Because it is the design of windows.
[05:57] <z00m> Ash-Fox: .wmf file ?
[05:57] <Ash-Fox> 'Fixing' it, would break pretty much how most applications communicate with each other under windows.
[05:57] <Ash-Fox> z00m, the .wmf file used a few exploits, I anaylzed in depth :)
[05:58] <z00m> there is one with .jpg file that u just need to browse the dir and it auto runs the overflow, because of the way windows previews pic files
[05:59] <Ash-Fox> This wasn't even thumbnail view
[05:59] <z00m> i think linux was also vuln to this but not sure if it was exploitable
[05:59] <Ash-Fox> Windows was just retrieving the actual resolution of the picture, and poof...
[05:59] <Ash-Fox> Wine had the same WMF exploit.
[06:00] <z00m> yeah, it can be fixed
[06:00] <z00m> wintendo released a patch for it
[06:00] <Ash-Fox> Mozilla had a exploit from old netscape code todo with JPEGs, luckilly KDE's JPEG code wasn't based on that.
[06:02] <z00m> gatekeeper: so you know C & c++ then
[06:02] <acojlo> why does kontact complain about 'could not connect to localhost' after installing GuardDog?
[06:03] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir
[06:03] <gatekeeper> z00m: yep :-)
[06:04] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :), try to reply to your first message, but you had left...
[06:04] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: works? :P
[06:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, I had to reconfigure X
[06:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Of course not, abattoir
[06:04] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: :'(
[06:04] <z00m> gatekeeper: im in the process of learning how to break C & C++ programs
[06:05] <z00m> learning how they break makes you know the ways to stop anyone from breaking them
[06:05] <Joe3> hiya people, I installed kubuntu but coz im using an old monitor (I broke my lcd) I use an 800x600 resolution but certain apps like Control Centre continue off the screen how do I force it so I can see the whole box rather than partial, for instance I cant see the ok buttons and stuff
[06:05] <gatekeeper> z00m: I have users that are past masters at that :-)
[06:06] <z00m> gatekeeper: i think its really interesting to learn
[06:06] <timi> ubuntu just click on the intsall button
[06:06] <Joe3> Anyone know how to fix?
[06:06] <Ash-Fox> Just enables a arrow on the side, that I click to hide the taskbar.
[06:07] <Joe3> how'd ya get the arrow there :P?
[06:07] <gatekeeper> Joe3: this what you are after? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <lens> There is a way to make it when you type sudo, it lasts longer... does anyone know how to do that?
[06:07] <timi> yesterday installed bittorent, but i couldnt find it anywhere after i installed it, same thing with qtorrent, why is this
[06:07] <z00m> lens: sudo -i
[06:08] <lens> z00m, thanks!
[06:08] <z00m> lens: np
[06:08] <timi> z00m you know where to find a program after you download it
[06:08] <Pupeno> timi: why don't just use ktorrent ?
[06:08] <Ash-Fox> lens, yes.
[06:08] <timi> yeah im using it know
[06:08] <timi> but i would still like to know where programs i download go to
[06:09] <z00m> timi: on ktorrent ?
[06:09] <timi> no
[06:09] <timi> like on adept
[06:09] <Pupeno> timi: they go to /usr/bin/ most of the time.
[06:09] <z00m> oh
[06:09] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[06:09] <z00m> timi do you want to get rid of them ?
[06:09] <z00m> clean up or are you trying to run something
[06:09] <timi> no i did using uninstall in adept
[06:09] <ironfroggy> do i need the hiberanate package in order to use my laptops hibernation features?
[06:09] <timi> but when i had them installed i could find them anywhere
[06:10] <arso> hello old friends
[06:10] <z00m> timi: i noticed that sometime you program lists does not update unless you right click and select edit
[06:10] <z00m> then save
[06:10] <z00m> then they show up
[06:10] <timi> hrrm ok
[06:11] <z00m> just try that
[06:11] <timi> another question zoom
[06:11] <ironfroggy> i can go into suspend-to-disc from the battery monitor, but i tried installing that hibernate package and the command tells me i dont have kernel support for hibernation, which i find odd because ive already been using hibernation.
[06:11] <timi> installed a non adept program called kbootsplash
[06:11] <Ash-Fox> timi, what have you done!? You'll kill us all!
[06:11] <timi> how do i uninstall it, because its not in add/remove or in adept of course
[06:11] <Ash-Fox> timi, did you compile it?
[06:12] <timi> yes
[06:12] <dr_willis> ya should read the docs taht came with the program.. it depends on how ya installed it.
[06:12] <Ash-Fox> timi, okay, goto the compilation directory and type 'make uninstall'
[06:12] <z00m> timi: like this sudo apt-get remove <name of package>
[06:12] <timi> ok
[06:12] <z00m> was it a .deb ?
[06:12] <Ash-Fox> z00m, he just said he didn't install it as a package
[06:12] <z00m> ah right sorry
[06:13] <timi> yeah i compiled it zOOm
[06:13] <Ash-Fox> timi, goto the compilation directory and type 'make uninstall' or 'sudo make uninstall' if it needs privillages.
[06:13] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: Did you look at suspend2? http://suspend2.net
[06:13] <timi> yeah someone told me that yesterday
[06:13] <timi> but i dont know how i find the compilation directory of something
[06:13] <Ash-Fox> The place where you compiled it
[06:13] <timi> i searched ktorrent and i find usr/bin/doc/ and usr/bin/ap
[06:13] <ironfroggy> MilhousePunkRock: yes. thats what i found the hibernate command from and installed the package for.
[06:13] <timi> i thought i just compiled it on the desktop
[06:14] <ironfroggy> but im not seeing what its for, if i can already hibernate.
[06:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Package? It's a kernel patch
[06:14] <timi> i just downloaded  the tarball to th deskotp extracted it to the desktop then i went into konsole clickity click click...kbootsplash
[06:14] <ironfroggy> isnt hibernation included in the kubuntu kernels by default?
[06:14] <timi> then i deleted all the crap on the desktop
[06:14] <Pupeno_> ouch, I was disconnected.
[06:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Not suspend2, ironfroggy
[06:15] <Pupeno_> timi: are you interested in what I was saying about running programs you installed with adept ?
[06:15] <Ash-Fox> timi, well, you will need to extract it somewhere, set it up like before, and then do a uninstall using the method I said.
[06:15] <timi> ok
[06:15] <ironfroggy> MilhousePunkRock: whats the difference between suspend2 and the facilities already present to hibernate/sleep my laptop?
[06:16] <timi> so if you extract something and then you delete the files the program still works
[06:16] <timi> but you cant get rid ot it
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> IDK, ironfroggy... I only got it since it wasn't working here... Didn't make a difference though, still isn't working
[06:16] <timi> Pupeno I understand adept
[06:16] <Pupeno_> ok.
[06:18] <MilhousePunkRock> ThinkPad users here?
[06:18] <lens> Ash-Fox, z00m, sudo -i is a good command, but I was thinking of a text file you modify that changes how long you stay sudo when you put in the pass, instead of the default 5 minutes or whatever.
[06:19] <Sarnuial> i want a thinkpad but i dont have one so no
[06:19] <Sarnuial> ;)
[06:19] <MilhousePunkRock> If I tell you that I am trying to get sleep working for days and days, do you still want one, Sarnuial?
[06:19] <dek_aik> ironfroggy, MilhousePunkRock, i got the hibernate works after chose acpi instead suspend2 in /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf
[06:19] <Sarnuial> no...
[06:20] <Sarnuial> whats the problem?
[06:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Since the TP is a little old already, it's got a weird video chip, which freezes X when you resume...
[06:21] <lens> oh I just happened to find it... sorry about that... it's very useful <a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183418">here's the link to reset sudo time settings</a href>
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> dek_aik: By now I am convinced that my problem is related to the video chip, so I don't think that will make a difference... It didn't work before I got suspend2 and it's still the same now
[06:22] <timi> hey but a firefox icon in my panel, when i click it it opens of two firefox, one opens and the other is just an icon in the toolbar that seems to show its pertuallly loading but there is not screen
[06:22] <bipolar> If anyone is trying to get Kaffeine to play videos properly when using XGL, I found that setting xine to use OpenGL output seems to clear it up.
[06:22] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: That's the loading feedback
[06:23] <timi> yeah but tthe page loads in a second
[06:23] <timi> and there is another thing below it saysin that firefox is loading
[06:23] <timi> i notice that the icons on them are differfent to. one is the world the one that doesnt load has the firefox icon
[06:23] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock, maybe..mine is a NEC with savage IX/MX display..have you tried tweaking the /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf
[06:23] <MilhousePunkRock> SAVAGE IX????????? That's exactly my chip!
[06:24] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock, well..it works here
[06:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Can you post your hibernate.conf, sleep.conf, common.conf and what not to some pastebin?
[06:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Or mail them to me, dek_aik? milhousepunkrock@googlemail.com
[06:25] <timi> hey can anyone explain why linux all of sudden started do this
[06:25] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock, sorry..never use the bin...i email you
[06:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Nice...
[06:26] <timi> it opens two firefox, but you cant see on of them, and the one that doesnt eve load has the correct icon from my icon set for firefox, and the other oen is the world
[06:26] <timi> it didnt do this yesterday
[06:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Wait, I have a Savage IX/C
[06:27] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: I told you, that's the loading feedback... Doesn't it go away after a while?
[06:27] <Ignite_> timi, can you take a screenshot and upload it to imageshack.us please? if your in KDE you can just press the "Print Screen" key :)
[06:27] <acojlo> why i have error: could not connect to localhost?
[06:27] <timi> where is the print screen key
[06:28] <Ignite_> timi, most probably to the right of the backspace key
[06:28] <Ignite_> timi, above the arrow keys
[06:28] <dr_willis> its the key lavbled print screen. :)
[06:28] <timi> laptop
[06:28] <timi> is ther a commad i cold do
[06:28] <dr_willis> then i guess ya look closely and learn how ya Fkeys work.
[06:28] <dr_willis> or the 2nd fnction keys.
[06:28] <timi> err i c it
[06:28] <Ignite_> timi, K menu -> graphics -> ksnapshot
[06:29] <timi> ok i goit
[06:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone know how long it's gonna take until we get the 2.6.17 kernel?
[06:29] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, probably the next release
[06:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Ignite_: Next release as in next year?
[06:30] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, there is a release every six months
[06:30] <cotroler> do i need to install a firewall / antivirus in kubuntu or is it safe enough?????
[06:30] <MilhousePunkRock> That's still 4 month of waiting, since Dapper came in June...
[06:30] <Ignite_> cotroler, safe enough, if your paranoid though you can install a firewall
[06:30] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, i wouldn't worry, there are security patches applied so you shouldn't need to worry about that :)
[06:31] <cotroler> Ignite_: tnx lol (cause in windows without firewall / antivirus you wont manage)
[06:31] <Ignite_> timi, imageshack.us lets you upload the screenshot free of charge
[06:31] <Ignite_> cotroler, yeah but we all know how much of a peice of crap windows is ;)
[06:31] <MilhousePunkRock> In my special case I have to worry about exactly that, Ignite_! "With kernel 2.6.17.1 savagefb works fine after resuming from suspend or hibernate."
[06:31] <timi> ok
[06:31] <timi> im doing that now
[06:31] <Ignite_> timi, ok :)
[06:32] <cotroler> Ignite_: tnx :) windows is shit :|
[06:32] <[GuS] > cotroler, i has 10 workstations in my small company and without virus/firewall.. just a firewall in my server bcause i offer some services that i need open some ports
[06:32] <[GuS] > in my opinion... is not necesary antivirus..
[06:32] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock, sent...
[06:32] <timi> hey i saved them to my desktop but they dont show up
[06:32] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, ah i see, you can compile your own kernel as long as you know your hardware, there are a load of guides that will help you :)
[06:32] <timi> unless i open the home folder then go to desktop
[06:32] <cotroler> tnx ppl, this confirms how linux is secure!!!!!!!
[06:33] <Ignite_> timi, what do you mean?
[06:33] <[GuS] > it is cotroler ! ;)
[06:33] <MilhousePunkRock> thx dek_aik... What driver are you using? just the plain savage?
[06:34] <[GuS] > is not so hard MilhousePunkRock, like Ignite_  says, you need to know your hardware very well
[06:34] <timi> <a href="http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ys4.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8479/snapshot1ys4.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>
[06:34] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock, yes from the official repo..
[06:35] <timi> i guess my desktop is frozen....
[06:35] <MilhousePunkRock> [GuS] : Is that well enough? http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T23 If I compile stuff in it, say, the madwifi drivers, is that faster than running it as a module?
[06:35] <bkudria> how do i specify a custom paramater in the kubuntu dapper livecd?  how do i get to the boot prompt?
[06:35] <[GuS] > let me check that link..
[06:36] <dr_willis> bkudria,  hit 'e' to edit the grub entrys i think.. or if ya can enter the name to boot.. add them to the end.
[06:36] <Ignite_> timi, i'm not sure i understand your problem, do you mean you have 2 firefox icons, one that works and one that doesn't?
[06:36] <timi> you see the one with the sand timer by it
[06:36] <[GuS] > pretty good info... but you need more technical one MilhousePunkRock, of example you must collect more info... by typing lspci you have more.. and so on..
[06:36] <Ignite_> timi, yeah
[06:36] <timi> it opens at the same time the highlight one opens
[06:36] <bkudria> dr_willis: no, on both counts.  i'm booting from a livecd, not grub...and typing does nothing
[06:37] <[GuS] > indeed that info is good
[06:37] <timi> like every time i do my short cut key for mozilla or cllck on the link or anything
[06:37] <timi> that one never loads it just sits  there for like 20seconds saysing its loading
[06:37] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock, i also managed to get the DRI works...but still somtimes it freezes X especially playing high FPS games like briquolo..but chromium works very well
[06:37] <cotroler> timi: you got a nice font in that screenshot
[06:37] <timi> thanks
[06:37] <dr_willis> the live cd - is using grub i think.  ive done it on other live cd's not sure about the ubuntu one. :()   the wiki/forums i imagine have examples/details.
[06:37] <cotroler> np
[06:38] <bkudria> i guess i'll look
[06:38] <[GuS] > yeah... chromium is better today
[06:38] <Ignite_> timi, i think i know what it is, you see, when you start a program in KDE, it adds an item to the panel saying its loading, thing is, sometimes they don't go as soon as the program has loaded and just time out eventually, i'm not sure what causes it, i think it may be a bug
[06:38] <timi> ok
[06:38] <timi>  i just notcied that the buggy one had the logo of firefox
[06:38] <dek_aik> GuS: do you also have a savage card?
[06:39] <timi> as you cansee all the firefoxes that are open have a world logo and the in m bar the logo is a whitefirefox
[06:39] <timi> so i was thinking maybe it was the icons or something, this hsas never happened until today
[06:39] <[GuS] > dek_aik, in a mother board, onboard card, yes... in another computer
[06:39] <cotroler> it there any way to make konversation /msg nickserv idenfity [pass]  do this automatically????
[06:39] <_Annibal_> jeje, alguin de espaa?
[06:39] <[GuS] > Kubuntu load the DRI very well
[06:39] <[GuS] > or better say, Xorg.
[06:39] <Ignite_> timi, i'm sure you can turn off the "loading" item in the panel, i'm not sure how though, i will look into it if its a bother? :)
[06:40] <cotroler> it there any way to make konversation /msg nickserv idenfity [pass]  do this automatically????
[06:40] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: In the identity settings
[06:41] <timi> ok thanks
[06:41] <timi> welll i never got any *loading feedback before so its a bother.
[06:41] <Ignite_> ah, timi if you press alt+f2 then type "kcontrol" and hit enter, you will get the KDE control center, expand the "Apperance & Themes" option, then click "Launch Feedback", there you can control what kind of things you see when a program is loading :D
[06:41] <dek_aik> GuS: sometimes it freezes X (especially in briquolo case), and it have a drop shadow on the mouse when playing mahjong3d..do you experience that too?
[06:42] <timi> alright
[06:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Ignite_: So we only get the minor kernel updates within one release?
[06:43] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, i think so
[06:43] <Ignite_> but we do get updates and patches, fixing bugs and the like
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> I am not sure if compiling my own kernel in the 4th week on Linux might be too much of a project for me...
[06:44] <Ignite_> hrm
[06:44] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: debian moves to 2.6.17 in desember so  i think ubuntu will follow after that
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> I can't wait that long...
[06:45] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, what is the output of "uname -r" in konsole?
[06:45] <abattoir> dek_aik: isnt ubuntu already w/ 2.6.17(w/ edgy, that is)
[06:45] <MilhousePunkRock> 2.6.15.26-686
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1467 bogomips), , RAM: 245/248MB, 77 proc's, 1.10h up
[06:46] <Ignite_> ah
[06:46] <Ignite_> hrm
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: If you look here http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T23 and click on the video chip, I guess that
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> 's the root of all evil here...
[06:47] <dek_aik> abattoir: i dont know..i still havent tried edgy...well edgy will come out officially in desember right?
[06:47] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: 'S3 SuperSavage IX/C with 16 MB' ?
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes...
[06:47] <abattoir> dek_aik: in october, 6.10
[06:48] <abattoir> Sysinfo for 'abattoir': Linux 2.6.17-5-amd64-k8 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMDTurion64MobileTechnologyML-30 at 800 MHz (1600 bogomips), , RAM: 302/307MB, 102 proc's, 1.19h up
[06:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Scroll all the way down on the page for the savage
[06:48] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, what is the bug exactly?
[06:48] <Joe3> grr stupid outage
[06:48] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: So you got the .17 kernel already...
[06:49] <Joe3> Anyone got an idea on how to fix my resolution problem?
[06:49] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yup :)
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Ignite_: Freezing X on resume from suspend
[06:49] <dek_aik> abattoir: oh ok..less than 6 months then from dapper
[06:49] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, ok, having a look around now
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Got it seperately or are you running edgy?
[06:49] <NoIPMixAM> 2.6.15-23-386
[06:49] <abattoir> dek_aik: dapper should have been 6.04, but was delayed a couple of months, so that it could become 'LTS'
[06:49] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: edgy
[06:50] <timi> thanks Ignite
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Does it come with suspend2 already?
[06:50] <timi> i guess my desktop was frozen
[06:50] <timi> thats wy i couldnt find the .png 's
[06:50] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: sorry, havent tried it
[06:50] <dek_aik> abattoir: now i understand..
[06:51] <Ignite_> timi, ah
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, if suspending worked with the edgy kernel, I wouldn't need suspend 2...
[06:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Is edgy public or do you have to bribe the devs to get it?
[06:52] <cotroler> Does kubuntu have a build in mp3 player? if no is there a good one?
[06:52] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: debian moves to 2.6.17 in des
[06:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Sorry for the repeat that's coming, but abattoir wasn't there to read it...
[06:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, if suspending worked with the edgy kernel, I wouldn't need suspend 2...
[06:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Is edgy public or do you have to bribe the devs to get it?
[06:52] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: its public :)
[06:53] <dek_aik> cotroler: amarok..i rocks
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> !mp3 < cotroler
[06:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp3 < cotroler - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:53] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: but 'officially' it is unstable
[06:53] <NoIPMixAM> edgy stand for ?
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> !mp3 > cotroler
[06:53] <cotroler> tnx!
[06:53] <abattoir> cotroler: i second dek_aik.. you just have to enable mp3 support though :P
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, after all what I've done, my system is too...
[06:54] <Ignite_> cotroler, amarok is the best there is in my opinion, you will need to install the libxine-extracodecs for MP3 support though, although its probably in that info you've just been given
[06:54] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: your system is too... ?
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> How would I upgrade to edgy?
[06:54] <dek_aik> cotroler, abattoir: and the libtunepim also have to be manually compiled for the musicbrainz tagger to works
[06:55] <abattoir> dek_aik: iirc, it works for ogg,wav, but not for mp3, that too, if you download 1.4.1, that shouldnt be necessary
[06:56] <draik> anyone here have Kubuntu 6.06 with an unmodified /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf ?
[06:56] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: tbh, it at times *might* be unstable, so i'd suggest keeping it as a secondary system
[06:56] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, you _could_, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change all dapper to edgy, then do an "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade", that should do it, but i wouldn't expect it to be perfect just yet
[06:56] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ^^^^ that's the way, but expect to run into some errors while upgrading
[06:57] <ubuntu__> say ....is it possible to get the adept repositorys as dvds?
[06:57] <abattoir> eg. for me X and decided to play foul... :P
[06:57] <dek_aik> abattoir: i still use the 1.3.x and everytime it updates to x+1 i have to compile the libtunepimp..:(
[06:58] <Ignite_> ubuntu__, i think you can buy DVDs on amazon, not sure if you can download them though
[06:58] <abattoir> dek_aik: try 1.4.1, i'm pretty sure i read in an amarok wiki that libtunepimp supports mp3s out of the box...
[06:58] <abattoir> ubuntu__: yes, you can download an Installation DVD
[06:59] <elias_> Is NvAGP faster than agpgart/intel_agp?
[06:59] <draik> Or is there a way of getting those 2 files unmodified elsewhere?
[06:59] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Are you there tomorrow to guide me to edgy?
[07:00] <Ignite_> dek_aik, if you want the latest amarok release in kubuntu (like i do ^_^) then use this guide, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[07:00] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: are you going to install it over your current system? or install a secondary one and upgrade that?
[07:00] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'd suggest the second, but its your call :)
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If you need guiding to run edgy then you shouldn't use it
[07:01] <Ignite_> h3sp4wn, there is a bug with his video card that isn't fixed in the dapper kernel
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Well... I was thinking about moving /home to a seperate partition anyway... I could use that for both then, right?
[07:01] <GIGANTOR> abattoir- do you have any pull in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:01] <GIGANTOR> i need to get unbanned =S
[07:01] <GIGANTOR> i didn't even do anything bad
[07:01] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: unfortunately no :(
[07:02] <GIGANTOR> rat bastards man..
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I'd prefer to only get the kernel, if it was possible, which I doubt...
[07:02] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: maybe this is what got you banned...
[07:02] <GIGANTOR> lol
[07:02] <Ignite_> GIGANTOR, why did you get banned? i'm sure there is someone you can report abuse to
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> x2 abattoir
[07:02] <GIGANTOR> DBO banned me, and i've messaged him
[07:02] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, you probably can just install the kernel
[07:02] <GIGANTOR> ok, so i said "f**k" with only one asterisk instead of the two you see there
[07:03] <GIGANTOR> and insta-ban...
[07:03] <dek_aik> abattoir: is there a native gfxboot-grub in edgy?
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> That would be awesome, Ignite_
[07:03] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, one sec i will look into it
[07:03] <GIGANTOR> i've learnt my lesson  ;(
[07:03] <abattoir> !info gfxboot-grub edgy
[07:03] <ubotu> Package gfxboot-grub does not exist in edgy
[07:03] <abattoir> dek_aik: have a specific package name?
[07:03] <swhalen> Im having issues setting a static ip for my lan...ettth0 ddoes nnot keep my settings!
[07:03] <abattoir> dek_aik: or packages.ubuntu.com's edgy section might help :)
[07:04] <h3sp4wn> Ignite_: You cannot install just the kernel without updating udev (maybe libc)
[07:04] <MukiEX> Is there a compiz/Kubuntu specific channel?
[07:04] <abattoir> MukiEX: maybe #ubuntu-xgl ?
[07:04] <GIGANTOR> no, but #xgl helped me quite a bit
[07:05] <Ignite_> h3sp4wn, i've never had problems before
[07:05] <dek_aik> abattoir: its a grub that support "gfxboot" like that in suse..
[07:05] <Ignite_> MilhousePunkRock, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/linux-686
[07:05] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Is it fixed in 2.6.16 (that can be installed pretty easily on dapper)
[07:05] <abattoir> dek_aik: like anililo ?
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1467 bogomips), , RAM: 244/248MB, 77 proc's, 1.30h up
[07:05] <h3sp4wn> Ignite_: So you are running the binary edgy kernel on dapper ?
[07:06] <Ignite_> no
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Indeed, I am still on the .15
[07:06] <dek_aik> abattoir: kind of..
[07:06] <MukiEX> Thanks, abattoir
[07:06] <abattoir> dek_aik: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855 ?
[07:06] <abattoir> MukiEX: np :)
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Where I finally found what the problem is, h3sp4wn, it says it's fixed in .17, so I guess .16 won't help much
[07:07] <timi> anyone know where to go to change the speaker set from 2.0 to 5.1 etc
[07:07] <timi> i saw it once before but i  cant find it anymore, you'd figure it be under sound and multimedia. but i dont see
[07:07] <OOD> timi: what sound card do you have?
[07:08] <Ignite_> timi, try K menu -> Multimedia -> Kmix
[07:08] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You can run 2.6.17 but you need to update udev or it won't boot (or would not for me) - you have to build it with the version of gcc on dapper as well
[07:08] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i think you saw that in amarok
[07:08] <Ignite_> timi, then click the icon near the clock then click "mixer"
[07:08] <arso> guys
[07:08] <Ignite_> bye MilhousePunkRock
[07:08] <arso> how the hell do i fastforward or goto    in mplayer?
[07:08] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: see you tomorrow :P
[07:09] <Ignite_> arso, shift + .
[07:09] <arso> i see, thnx a bunch
[07:09] <Ignite_> arso, unless your using the GUI then just use the mouse
[07:09] <Ignite_> :)
[07:09] <arso> hhehe no gui
[07:09] <arso> which is the best gui
[07:09] <arso> kmplayer or gmplayer
[07:10] <dek_aik> abattoir: thanks..
[07:10] <timi> i have alsa
[07:10] <abattoir> dek_aik: no problem :)
[07:10] <Ignite_> i personally prefer xine + kaffeine, but if your using mplayer then i would say kmplayer
[07:10] <swhalen> whats the command to run to set up IP manualy?/
[07:10] <timi> hrm k mixer just shows you volume for the system and microophone ill try amarok
[07:11] <abattoir> Ignite_: not sure, search for theoggen though
[07:12] <abattoir> Ignite_: wait, i'll give you the right name
[07:12] <arso> Ignite_:  i want to go to like 30 mins in to the video
[07:12] <arso> Ignite_:  how do i do that
[07:12] <arso> Ignite_:  is ther a go to? where y type the time u want
[07:13] <Ignite_> arso, i'm not sure, i don't use it much
[07:13] <swhalen> whats the command to run to set up IP manualy?
[07:13] <trappist> arso: pagedown 3 times
[07:13] <arso> thnx
[07:13] <Ignite_> abattoir, yeah, i liked that, used it a while ago, there were problems though, when i ripped some DVDs it would freeze half way through and rip the same frame over and over
[07:13] <arso> each pagedown is 10mins?
[07:14] <trappist> arso: yes, per the man page
[07:14] <arso> oh nice
[07:14] <timi> when  i put on my headphones i get good bass, so maybe it just the computer speaker
[07:14] <abattoir> Ignite_: tried k9copy, dvd::rip etc. ?
[07:14] <trappist> arso: `man mplayer` for more goodness
[07:14] <Ignite_> dvd::rip wasn't for me, (the gui was ugly as hell) i haven't tried k9copy though
[07:15] <abattoir> !info k9copy
[07:15] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[07:15] <Ignite_> thanks :D
[07:15] <abattoir> Ignite_: it's in the repos, so you could apt-get it :)
[07:15] <dek_aik> swhalen: try the "sudo ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[07:15] <arso> one last thing please trappist , mplayer automatically stretches the movie full screen messing it up, how cani make it keep the original aspect ratio?
[07:16] <abattoir> Ignite_: i remember seeing a lot of apps at kde-apps.org's video section too, if you dont like k9copy, you could probably check those out
[07:16] <MukiEX> What program allows KDE shortcuts to work. That is, what lets me press Alt+F2 and get the run dialog? I installed compiz and it seems to be disabled.
[07:16] <trappist> arso: I say zoom=yes and monitoraspect=4:3 in my ~/.mplayer/config
[07:16] <swhalen> SIOCSIFADDR: File exists
[07:16] <Ignite_> abattoir, ok great, i used to use ubuntu and acidrip, now i'm in kubuntu i wanted something more KDE'y :)
[07:17] <abattoir> MukiEX: Kcontrol->Regional ....->Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:17] <arso> trappist:  but i want it to keep the movies aspect, some movies have 4:3 some have different
[07:17] <Hikaru79> The URL for w32codecs.deb listed on the Ubuntu Wiki is no longer up. Does anybody have a current link?
[07:17] <abattoir> Ignite_: heh, if you are new to kde, then kde-look.org and kde-apps.org have 'gems' waiting to be found :P
[07:17] <Ignite_> MukiEX, i think thats handled by kwin, if it is then you won't really be able to run it alongside compiz because they are both window managers :x
[07:17] <MukiEX> Aww junk, kwin? ^_^
[07:18] <dek_aik> swhalen: try to put the eth down first (sudo ifconfig eth0 down)..then type that command again
[07:18] <trappist> arso: does it automatically go fullscreen or are you pushing 'f'
[07:18] <Ignite_> abattoir, not really, i've used KDE for a few years, just always forget about kde-apps and the like, i tend to change between desktop environments like the wind :P
[07:18] <arso> umm its ok i fixed it trappist thanks anyway
[07:19] <abattoir> Ignite_: oh, ok :)
[07:19] <trappist> arso: also say vm=no in ~/.mplayer/config
[07:19] <trappist> oh ok
[07:19] <arso> wat does taht do?
[07:19] <arso> auto ful lscreen?
[07:19] <trappist> prevents it from going to a different video mode when you go fullscreen
[07:19] <trappist> check the comments in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:22] <cotroler> !apache
[07:22] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:22] <pe345mo> dora14dp
[07:23] <dcp> exit
[07:23] <timi> so flash player just pick and choose when sound is going to wrk
[07:24] <timi> because the last to days it might work then just stop, ill reboot it will work
[07:24] <timi> or it wont work. i dunno anybody else had this problem
[07:24] <arso> umm guys
[07:24] <arso> amarok aint playing stuff
[07:24] <arso> do i just get extracodecs
[07:24] <arso> or is ther eanything else i need
[07:24] <trappist> !mp3
[07:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:24] <abattoir> arso:  you have libxine-extracodecs?
[07:24] <arso> abattoir:  i just installed them
[07:25] <arso> is there anythign else i need
[07:25] <arso> coz its still not playing
[07:25] <abattoir> arso: libmad0 or something was installed too?
[07:25] <trappist> arso: check the RestrictedFormats wiki page ubotu just posted
[07:25] <Hikaru79> arso, extracodecs is enough for 99% of common usage, except for wmv and rm.
[07:25] <Ignite_> timi, i've had that problem, i have no idea what causes it, but a work around i have found is, if you have firefox open whilst listening to audio in one program, firefox doesn't play _any_ audio it seems, making sure no audio is playing and restarting firefox seems to solve the problem temporarily
[07:25] <arso> donno
[07:25] <acojlo> listen, why does kontact complain about could not connect to localhost?
[07:25] <GIGANTOR> timi-  download wine, install the windows version of firefox AND flash under Wine, then run firefox
[07:25] <abattoir> info libmad0
[07:25] <GIGANTOR> timi- your audio will sync up fine
[07:25] <lens> what is the point in using Kontact and Korganizer if Kontact has a calender and a contact section?
[07:25] <arso> ya its installed
[07:25] <arso> i checked
[07:25] <abattoir> info libmad0
[07:25] <dek_aik> arso: install also libakode2-mpeg
[07:25] <abattoir> !info libmad0
[07:25] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[07:25] <trappist> acojlo: is your loopback device up?
[07:26] <abattoir> arso: ^^^^ see if that is installed
[07:26] <acojlo> trappist, how can i find it?
[07:26] <arso> btw its an mp3 i want
[07:26] <GIGANTOR> ignite- i've heard of starting firefox with the command AOSS firefox will help it somehow
[07:26] <GIGANTOR> any thoughts on that one?
[07:26] <lens> are there advantages to using KOrganizer AND Kontact?
[07:26] <GIGANTOR> seems like it forces ALSA
[07:26] <abattoir> arso:  if that *is* installed, then check if xine engine is selected as the engine...
[07:26] <timi> it says xineis availabel but refred to by anothe package
[07:26] <Ignite_> arso, to play MP3 in amarok, just open up a konsole window and run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[07:27] <arso> i already have extracodecs ignite
[07:27] <trappist> acojlo: run ifconfig and see if there's a device called 'lo' with an ip address of 127.0.0.1
[07:27] <arso> and the engine is xine
[07:27] <Ignite_> GIGANTOR, i'm not sure, never heard of that, infact it didn't really bother me all that much, i will look into it though :)
[07:27] <acojlo> yes, it's up
[07:27] <abattoir> arso:  libmad0 ?
[07:28] <dek_aik> arso: try to look the explanation on mp3 here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ..and why you need libakode2-mpeg
[07:28] <arso> installed
[07:28] <timi> GIGANTOR it says xine is not available but reffered to by another package
[07:28] <Ignite_> arso, if amarok was open when you installed them, try restarting it
[07:28] <GIGANTOR> timi-  when is it saying that?
[07:28] <timi> when do sudo apt-get install xine
[07:28] <arso> ok
[07:28] <abattoir> arso:  ok, close amarok, then delete ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/xine-config ... note you'll lose your settings, so back it up if you want to
[07:28] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i said Wine
[07:29] <Hikaru79> The URL for w32codecs.deb listed on the Ubuntu Wiki is no longer up. Does anybody have a current link?
[07:29] <Ignite_> i wouldn't advise using wine
[07:29] <GIGANTOR> ignite-  ;P
[07:29] <timi> ok
[07:29] <Ignite_> using wine _could_ expose you to some windows vulns
[07:29] <timi> ok
[07:29] <GIGANTOR> works perfectly for me...   that was the only thing pizzing me off about linux
[07:30] <timi> GIGANTOR was that commad thing yousaid todo
[07:30] <dek_aik> Hikaru79: there a link of repo in source-o-matic for that
[07:30] <timi> like start firefox with a command
[07:30] <Ignite_> i can only remember having that firefox issue in ubuntu, maybe it will be fixed in edgy
[07:30] <Ignite_> :)
[07:30] <GIGANTOR> timi-  go to adept and search for Wine
[07:30] <GIGANTOR> it's much easier to install that way
[07:31] <arso> ok it worked
[07:31] <GIGANTOR> adept is your friend  ;)
[07:31] <timi> ok but that wont mess up my computer right
[07:31] <GIGANTOR> no sir
[07:31] <arso> i am a noob i didnt restart amarok
[07:31] <arso> lol
[07:31] <arso> and it even played my favorite song
[07:31] <Ignite_> timi, in my opinion installing windows software with wine is a silly thing to do
[07:31] <Ignite_> lol arso
[07:31] <timi> it would be sweet it linux just worked ya know
[07:31] <arso> hehe
[07:32] <GIGANTOR> timi-  listen to ignite though, he knows more than me. I was just frustrated and wanted Flash to work properly
[07:32] <GIGANTOR> timi-  which it won't consistently any other way
[07:32] <Hikaru79> dek_aik: source-o-matic?
[07:32] <dek_aik> !apt
[07:32] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:32] <Ignite_> timi, i will have a look around and try to find a fix, i never looked into it before so maybe i will find something :)
[07:32] <timi> aha thanks
[07:33] <dek_aik> hey anyone please call obutu for source-o-matic?
[07:33] <Ignite_> dek_aik, http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:33] <acojlo> trappist: lo is up
[07:34] <dek_aik> Hikaru79: there you go..thank Ignite
[07:34] <lens> is it ok to use easy-ubuntu with kubuntu?
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> Hikaru79: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[07:39] <Hikaru79> Thank you to everyone :) Ignite_, dek_aik and h3sp4wn!
[07:39] <Ignite_> timi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75237 <-= i haven't tried that so i don't know if your likely to have any success but its worth a try :)
[07:39] <Ignite_> :)
[07:39] <Hikaru79> (Although h3sp4wn, that link is *still* down. It's the same one on the wiki)
[07:40] <dek_aik> Hikaru79: np:)
[07:40] <h3sp4wn> Hikaru79: Definately up for me
[07:40] <Ignite_> timi, i am going to give it a try now, will let you know of any success
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> Hikaru79: maybe you can't get it directly http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/ (then browse for it) probably deliberately done to stop ubuntu using all there bandwidth
[07:42] <Hikaru79> Hm. Thanks h3s :)
[07:42] <draik> I installed k9copy (was looking for DVDshrink replacement) but its trying to access /dev/hdc. When I go there, it's just an icon of 3 blocks and asking me 'Open with...'. What do I do?
[07:42] <dr_willis> 'go there' ?
[07:43] <dr_willis> ya may want to tell it to use /dev/dvd
[07:43] <trappist> draik: /dev/hdc is a device, not a regular file.  it assumes it's your dvd drive.
[07:43] <timi> photos-007.facebook.com/ip007/v21/237/39/220924/a220924_30582007_2810.jpgok igite
[07:44] <draik> trappist, oh, I see. I have a secondary HDD that has various DVDs from DVDShrink. Is there a way of k9copy reading them?
[07:44] <draik> I click open and it only chooses hdc
[07:44] <dr_willis> never used dvdshrink. no idea there.
[07:44] <dr_willis> if they are standard iso image files - it should be able readable/mountable
[07:46] <timi> how do ibecoem a registered user
[07:46] <aliasfred> !register
[07:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:47] <aliasfred> timi: this is for you
[07:47] <draik> dr_willis, the files are VOB
[07:49] <obf213> k
[07:50] <obf213> aliasfred
[07:50] <obf213> im going to send you a message to see if it worked
[07:50] <aliasfred> ok
[07:50] <Ashex> I had to remove the drive I had grub installed to (cd/hdd conflicting)
[07:50] <Ashex> how would i get my kubuntu install to boot if grub isn't installed to it?
[07:51] <dr_willis> draik,  thiose are normal dvd video files then. unless they did somehting special to them
[07:51] <dr_willis> draik,  see if vlc can play them
[07:52] <draik> !vlc
[07:52] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:53] <draik> I have Xine and Kaffeine
[07:55] <Ashex> any ideas?
[07:59] <dek_aik> Ashex: have you tried to install grub to the hd that is left?
[08:00] <Ashex> not yet....
[08:00] <Ashex> actually, i should probably try that
[08:00] <dek_aik> Ashex: or you could also boot with live-cd then chroot to kubuntu
[08:01] <Ashex> true, i'll give it a shot
[08:01] <Ashex> i'm curious as to what will happen to the windows boot though
[08:01] <Ignite_> obf213, that firefox audio fix isn't much good, flash just freezes now, i'm going to undo all the changes now >_>
[08:01] <forsai> wuenas..
[08:02] <obf213> ok
[08:02] <dek_aik> Ashex: i think windows will takes over and boots
[08:03] <Ashex> eh? what do you mean?
[08:03] <Ashex> I have windows installed to the same drive
[08:04] <dek_aik> Ashex: assuming that you "pulled out" grub, windows will boot first
[08:05] <cotroler> seeing grub how to i modify GRUB pls?
[08:05] <Ashex> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:07] <cotroler> tnx Ashex
[08:07] <Ashex> no problem
[08:07] <Ashex> Ah
[08:07] <Ashex> i checked menu.lst and windows is in there already
[08:08] <Ashex> now to just boot off my trusty grub disc
[08:08] <Ashex> and away i go!
[08:12] <ken_fallon> evening
[08:12] <juan> hi buddy!
[08:12] <juan> maybe you can help me...
[08:13] <ken_fallon> Fire ahead
[08:13] <juan> OK, im newbie so be excuse me... :)
[08:13] <juan> i have problems with the mp3s in amarok
[08:14] <ken_fallon> OK they don't play I'm guessing
[08:14] <juan> correct
[08:14] <juan> i have 1.3, im now im updating to 1.4
[08:15] <juan> but i dont know if it will work..
[08:15] <ken_fallon> OK what the issue probably is - is that distros don't come with MP3 support as there are patents relating to mp3 and they don't want to be sued
[08:15] <juan> right
[08:15] <ken_fallon> All Is not lost however :)
[08:15] <juan> :)
[08:16] <ken_fallon> I'm assuming that you have a new install of dapper - Correct ?
[08:16] <acojlo> do we have suspend2 enabled by default?
[08:17] <juan> yes I had install kububuntu 6.06
[08:17] <juan> kubuntu :)
[08:17] <ken_fallon> OK Would you like the easy way or the hard way ?
[08:17] <juan> the easy PLEASE!!
[08:17] <juan> jajaja
[08:18] <ken_fallon> Excellent - One sec - googleing
[08:19] <juan> oks!
[08:19] <raytray25> Wouldn't that be in the wiki?
[08:19] <dek_aik> !mp3
[08:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <juan> ok, i'll read some :P
[08:20] <ken_fallon> You're looking for  Automatix for Dapper  which will install multimedia and other stuff
[08:20] <Ace2006> Does anyone know a font preview app, choosing fonts in inkscape is driving me mad!
[08:21] <juan> thank you man!
[08:21] <juan> Ill see..
[08:21] <ken_fallon> See here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646
[08:21] <juan> OK
[08:21] <brandon_> is kopete .12 available for dapper or is it only available in edgy?
[08:21] <ken_fallon> You'll need to do come command line stuff to get it going but then it will pop up a script
[08:24] <emonkey-p> brandon_, http://archive.kubuntu.de/ubuntu/pool/dapper/preview/i386/
[08:24] <emonkey-p> but it's not official
[08:24] <brandon_> is it going to be at some point?
[08:24] <brandon_> i'd rather not go too far off the reservation
[08:28] <acojlo> kontact: could not connect to localhost
[08:29] <draik> dr_willis, The video plays in VLC
[08:29] <draik> now what?
[08:29] <Ace2006> Hi does anyone else have a problem with killall? i typed "killall artsd" and nothing got killed, i was watching in the task manager, but task manager can kill them
[08:30] <wckdkl0wn> would anyone know why it is my system locks up when a screen saver comes on.. its not right away it takes about 15 mins after it kicks on
[08:31] <draik> Anyone here know how to get k9copy to read from a file, rather than a disc?
[08:31] <Hawkwind> draik: AFAIK you can't
[08:31] <Hawkwind> Ace2006: Then 'arts' is NOT the name of a running process.  Or not the full name
[08:31] <Hawkwind> Ace2006: ps aux | grep arts   then look at the full name on the right of that display
[08:32] <draik> Hawkwind, would you know of another app or method for burning what I already have captured?
[08:32] <Hawkwind> draik: What do you have captured that you are wanting to burn ?
[08:32] <Ace2006> Hawkwind: mounting the file which i'm guessing is an iso might work
[08:32] <draik> VOB files from DVDShrink on my secondary HDD
[08:32] <dek_aik> Ace2006: it works here
[08:33] <e-Hernick> Hey... I've got Kubuntu 6.06 installed on my Lenovo N100 laptop, with a 1680x1050 i810 display, and I'm using 915resolution so I can set it at 1680x1050. I've got a display corruption issue.. there is one horizontal line on my display that seems to repeat itself at another location on the display, and it's a software issue (it works in Windows)
[08:33] <e-Hernick> I was thinking I'd try Xorg 7.1 to see if the problem is fixed... How can I install Xorg 7.1 on kubuntu 6.06?
[08:33] <Hawkwind> draik: Can't you burn them with k3b ?
[08:33] <draik> haven't tried. I will do that now
[08:33] <Hawkwind> draik: I burn vob files that are in the video/audio directories all the time without problem
[08:33] <draik> what option do I select for burning them?
[08:34] <Hawkwind> draik: data cd
[08:34] <Hawkwind> Or data dvd depending on the size
[08:34] <draik> ok
[08:34] <draik> data dvd it is
[08:34] <draik> these are DVDs
[08:36] <dek_aik> wckdkl0wn: sometimes it happens when you driver doesnot support opengl natively and you screensaver is a opengl one
[08:36] <draik> Hawkwind, one issue I've had before is that what I burn won't play in windows. Is there a way around that?
[08:36] <wckdkl0wn> dek_aik: yea it was an opengl one
[08:37] <Hawkwind> draik: No idea.  I don't use/touch Windows at all.  Haven't in over 4+ years
[08:37] <coachJ> i just realized that the floppy drive is being shown is this normal?
[08:37] <draik> I recently had to burn some files from my 2nd partition (dual booting with winxp) and it wouldn't read in winxp
[08:37] <Leeiv> hi. i installed gnome in kubuntu. how do i switch to it? coz im running kde.
[08:37] <dek_aik> wckdkl0wn: well it happens..:)..choose another screen saver, non opengl
[08:38] <wckdkl0wn> dek_aik: can i just update my driver?
[08:38] <Leeiv> help plz
[08:38] <draik> Hawkwind, would you know if there is a way of freeing up RAM?
[08:38] <Hawkwind> Leeiv: Go back to your GUI login, and select it from the menus
[08:39] <draik> I'm running almost all 3GB of my 3GB RAM
[08:39] <Hawkwind> draik: That's good.  In Linux it's different from Windows.  The more you're using or have cached, the quicker things load
[08:39] <dek_aik> wckdkl0wn: well i am not sure..it depends on your card really..i had similar problem before dapper LTS with my savage but i never tested with dapper LTS
[08:40] <wilfredH> hawkwind: correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it aims to use exactly the amount of ram available
[08:40] <Hawkwind> draik: In Windows it's totally opposite.  Meaning if you're using all your RAM then things won't run as well
[08:40] <draik> Hawkwind, so I shouldn't worry about it using all my RAM
[08:41] <Hawkwind> draik: No
[08:41] <trappist> I ran across a script to show the amount of ram actually available.  wish I could remember where.
[08:41] <draik> Hawkwind, Ok. Thank you.
[08:41] <Hawkwind> draik: If you're using a lot it means you are doing quite a few things, and it's caching stuff to make it run faster over time.  Definitely a good thing
[08:41] <Hawkwind> trappist: That would be handy to see that script
[08:42] <draik> trappist, Hawkwind, I think this is what you might have in mind. Type 'free' in konsole
[08:43] <Hawkwind> draik: No.  There is a script that tells you much more detailed info that trappist is talking about
[08:43] <Dark_day> as it is the channel of kubuntu in espaol
[08:43] <Hawkwind> 'free' is a very minimal output
[08:43] <Hawkwind> !es
[08:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:43] <trappist> draik: no, free doesn't print what most people would like to know
[08:44] <wilfredH> control-escape (ksysguard) shows most stuff, what do you have in mind?
[08:44] <draik> trappist, Hawkwind: Be sure to let me know of that script if and when you find it or come across it again
[08:44] <acojlo> what is artsd?
[08:45] <Hawkwind> acojlo: Sound server
[08:45] <draik> 97% burned
[08:46] <draik> Hawkwind, I hope I will be able to view the DVD. DONE!!!
[08:55] <sonorous> hi, before i made the switch from windows to kubuntu (finally), i copied all my files to another linux box via ftp. many of those include mp3s.. i've downloaded them again to my home dir, but amarok/kaffeine refuses to play any of them
[08:55] <sonorous> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[08:56] <raytray25> It's a restricted file format.
[08:56] <raytray25> !mp3
[08:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:57] <Leeiv> is there a way to autologin with gnome?
[08:57] <gnuton> salve
[08:58] <Leeiv> ?
[08:58] <jason> how do i backup my grub bootloader on a floppy
[08:58] <Naosv> Automatix takes much of the effort out of Codecs Mp3s and stuff
[08:59] <bobbin> Hello: I understand pfsense originates from freeBSD, but are there repositories (.deb) someone can point me to?
[09:00] <scabootssca> !frostwire
[09:00] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:01] <coachJ> my floppy does not show up how do I access it?
[09:02] <coachJ> anyone?
[09:05] <ken_fallon> coachJ: From a terminal run the command
[09:05] <ken_fallon> dmesg | grep fda
[09:05] <ken_fallon> K -> System -> Konsole
[09:05] <coachJ> now what?
[09:06] <ken_fallon> type this:
[09:06] <ken_fallon> dmesg | grep fda
[09:06] <coachJ> after that
[09:06] <ken_fallon> Did it show anything  ?
[09:07] <coachJ> no
[09:07] <ken_fallon> OK looks like the system doesn't recognise it - try this please
[09:07] <ken_fallon> dmesg | grep fd
[09:07] <ken_fallon> What type of floppy is it (usb ?)
[09:10] <ken_fallon> coachJ: Still there ?
[09:10] <coachJ> yes
[09:11] <ken_fallon> Anything come up after the "dmesg | grep fs " ?
[09:11] <ken_fallon> sorry
[09:11] <ken_fallon> "dmesg | grep fd "
[09:11] <coachJ> no
[09:12] <ken_fallon> coachJ: is it a USB floppy disk ?
[09:12] <coachJ> ok i see it now
[09:12] <coachJ> with the fb command
[09:12] <coachJ> now what?
[09:13] <draik> Hawkwind, it will play on the DVD players, but not on my PS2
[09:13] <draik> I think it's the DVDs
[09:13] <scabootssca> anyone know how to backup grub to a floppy?
[09:13] <scabootssca> so you can use that if it gets messed up?
[09:14] <ken_fallon> Fantastic ! - ok now type "mkdir /mnt/floppy && mount /dev/fdb /mnt/floppy"
[09:15] <ken_fallon> coachJ: That will make a directory for you and mount the disk device there. You're files will appear in the directory /mnt/floppy
[09:15] <Leeiv> how do i switch from gdm to kdm?
[09:15] <Leeiv> plz help!
[09:15] <ken_fallon> Leeiv: aptitude install gdm
[09:15] <Leeiv> it is installed
[09:15] <Leeiv> i want to switch to kdm
[09:16] <coachJ> ok
[09:16] <Leeiv> ken_fallon: any clue?
[09:16] <ken_fallon> Leeiv: is kdm installed ? (aptitude show kdm)
[09:16] <Leeiv> ken_fallon: yes, both are installed
[09:17] <Leeiv> ken_fallon: there should be a config file
[09:17] <Ertain> I thought the latest KDE-libs release would fix the screensaver problem.
[09:17] <ken_fallon> Leeiv: aptitude purge gdm && dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:17] <coachJ> ken_fallon: This dir?
[09:18] <ken_fallon> Leeiv: will remove gdm
[09:18] <coachJ> this dir slash mnt
[09:18] <cotroler> How do I make in the startup to automatically mount ntfs drives?????
[09:19] <ken_fallon> coachJ: How you getting on ? If all went ok then "ls -al /mnt/floppy " should show your files
[09:19] <coachJ> ls -al /mnt/floppy
[09:19] <coachJ> sorry
[09:19] <ken_fallon> coachJ: No prob
[09:20] <ken_fallon> cotroler: Are the NFS drives already mounted ?
[09:20] <Ertain> I still can't get my screensaver to work properly.  I've had to resort to xscreensaver instead of kscreensaver.
[09:20] <draik> Anybody know how to write to NTFS partitions?
[09:20] <dek_aik> coachJ: try "sudo mount /dev/fb0 /media/floppy0 -t vfat"
[09:20] <coachJ> k
[09:21] <coachJ> mount doesnt exist
[09:21] <dek_aik> coachJ: then check "ls -l /media/floppy0"
[09:21] <cotroler> ken_fallon: i mounted them but when i restart they get lost :( and its NTFS not NFS
[09:21] <coachJ> no such file od dir
[09:21] <ken_fallon> cotroler: You need to add them to your /etc/fstab file
[09:21] <dek_aik> coachJ: then "sudo mkdir /media/floppy0" and do the command again
[09:22] <coachJ> total 0
[09:22] <coachJ> it has a sym ghost disk in it.
[09:22] <ramzes> Hi! I want to remaster Kubuntu CD and change the default language in isolinux' menu.  Can somebody help me?
[09:23] <ramzes> which file have to be changed? isolinux.cfg or smth?
[09:23] <mossman> Hello all. Does any one know how to burn a file.img and a file.ccd to a cdrom?
[09:24] <cotroler> ken_fallon: i add the command to that file? (tnx)
[09:24] <dek_aik> coachJ: so you get it mounted? what is the "mount" says
[09:24] <coachJ> total 0
[09:24] <coachJ> it has a sym ghost disk in it.
[09:25] <dek_aik> coachJ: what is "ls -al" says
[09:25] <ramzes> mossman, is there are ISO images or just files which have to exists on CD?
[09:26] <coachJ> LONG list of stuff
[09:26] <mossman> It is not an iso image.  it is just a big file 550mb called .img
[09:26] <dek_aik> coachJ: "ls -al /media/floppy0"
[09:27] <dek_aik> coachJ: i think you get it mounted
[09:27] <trappist> mossman: you're sure it's not an iso?  lots of iso files are called .img
[09:27] <trappist> mossman: run file filename.img
[09:27] <coachJ> eff@kubuntu:~$ ls -al /media/floppy0
[09:27] <coachJ> total 8
[09:27] <coachJ> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-07-26 15:22 .
[09:27] <coachJ> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-07-26 15:22 ..
[09:27] <Ignite_> mossman, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ccd2iso/
[09:27] <mossman> maybe.  But shouldn't the command file file.img  tell me iso instead it just says data?
[09:28] <dek_aik> coachJ: there are you files
[09:28] <Ignite_> its not an ISO
[09:28] <ramzes> mossman, first you have to make iso image like this "mkisofs -r -J -o /tmp/myiso.iso" path/to/file.img
[09:28] <coachJ> ok thks
[09:28] <coachJ> alot
[09:28] <dek_aik> coachJ: np
[09:28] <Ignite_> mossman, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ccd2iso/ <-= that can convert your ccd files to iso files
[09:29] <mossman> Thanks ignite
[09:29] <Ignite_> np
[09:30] <dek_aik> coachJ: edit your /etc/fstab so that it has stanza for the floppy like this "/dev/fb0   /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0"
[09:30] <coachJ> dek_aik: what will that do
[09:31] <dek_aik> coachJ: you can easyly mount your floppy from konqueror for example
[09:31] <coachJ> ok, cool thks again
[09:33] <coachJ> ken_fallon thks
[09:34] <coachJ> dek_aik: thks
[09:37] <Dalek5> Hello
[09:37] <Ignite_> hello
[09:37] <Ignite_> :)
[09:37] <GaiaX11_> How do i enable programs (like mozilla, xchat etc...) to open as soon as i login in kubuntu?
[09:38] <Ignite_> i think it has something to do with katapult, but i can't figure it out <_<
[09:39] <Dalek5> Is there anyway I can install KDE on my Ubuntu install without having to do a fresh install. I know it's apt-get KDE or something like that :)
[09:39] <Ignite_> yes
[09:39] <Ignite_> do you just want KDE or the entire kubuntu desktop?
[09:39] <Hawkwind> Dalek5: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <bobbyd> hi
[09:39] <Hawkwind> ERmmm....
[09:40] <bobbyd> is it possible to embed kpdf in firefox?
[09:40] <Hawkwind> Dalek5: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <Ignite_> lol Hawkwind
[09:40] <Dalek5> Yeah, that's the one. Thank you
[09:40] <Ignite_> Dalek5, thats if you want the entire kubuntu desktop
[09:40] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: Programs that you wish to autostart on KDE startup need to be placed into ~/.kde/Autostart. [http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs] 
[09:41] <GaiaX11_> ken_fallon, is there a gui for this?
[09:42] <ken_fallon> ln -s `which firefox` ~/.kde/Autostart/firefox
[09:42] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: I'll check
[09:42] <acojlo> GaiaX11: either you leave them and don't close session when you logout or make that scripts in Autostart
[09:43] <Ignite_> brb
[09:43] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: [http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/kdeug/all-about-your-desktop.html] 
[09:43] <acojlo> nice ken_fallon - didn't know links are possible
[09:44] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: Not exactly GUI but :)
[09:45] <angasule> !java
[09:45] <GaiaX11_> ken_fallon, in ubuntu I can do this in preferences sessions. It is very easy there
[09:45] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:45] <posthuman> !sources
[09:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:45] <posthuman> !easysource
[09:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:46] <mossman> Ignite, Thanks  Had to edit the make file to get it to compile,  but works very nicely
[09:50] <acojlo> anyone, is there anyone in the space - connected to this irc channel who can deduct this: Kontact is displaying error: could not connect to localhost
[09:51] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: Found something althoug it's not in my System Settings panel [http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html#user-defaultapplications] 
[09:52] <ken_fallon> K -> system Settings -> User accounts
[09:53] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: It's moved to KDE Components :)
[09:54] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: Not 100% sure that's what you want - it looks like Konqurer is the approved way to go
[09:55] <GaiaX11_> ken_fallon, you've been of so much help. I will have a look :-)
[09:56] <trappist> acojlo: what component is kontact trying to load?  kmail?
[09:56] <ken_fallon> GaiaX11_: No problem - I've never used it before so it was a pleasure to look it up
[09:57] <wizeman> I'm trying to use apt-build to install fusesmb from the edgy repository. I've added the edgy deb-src line to /etc/apt/sources.list, and apt-build info fusesmb works, but 'sudo apt-build install fusesmb' says 'W: Unable to locate package fusesmb' (3 times)
[09:57] <wizeman> does anyone know why doesn't it work?
[09:57] <mehdi> #kubuntu-fr
[09:58] <acojlo> yes, kmail by default
[09:58] <trappist> wizeman: apt-build was completely busticated last time I tried to use it.  but that was in breezy.  sposed to be fixed now.
[09:58] <acojlo> trappist you are still trying to help me :)
[09:58] <wizeman> the strange thing is that it worked on another laptop
[09:59] <wizeman> both computers are freshly installed
[09:59] <acojlo> trappist: it goes well with synching with pop3 account - but this with localhost is strange to me.
[10:00] <trappist> at what point does it give you that error
[10:02] <acojlo> trappist: kontact loads kmail. Kmail displayes on the screen. then - popup window with the error. In the backgroun I can see that kmail checked 1st pop acount and after I clik OK on the error window kmail checks 2nd pop account
[10:02] <trappist> acojlo: I'd say check your accounts - incoming and outgoing - and make sure nothing is set to localhost.
[10:03] <acojlo> trappist: ok - i'll recheck it
[10:10] <otamendim> kubutu-es
[10:10] <otamendim> www.kubutu-es
[10:18] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: are you around?
[10:21] <acojlo> trappist: you are wise man! :) So here is the cause: 2nd POP account had blank host adress (instead of pop.something.com). It caused the kmail to interpret it as 'localhost' which do not have pop server.
[10:24] <omeow> Does zsnes crash for anyone else on startup?
[10:25] <slougi> omeow: sec
[10:25] <KgB_> hello guys
[10:25] <acojlo> thank you very much trappist for your spiritual guidance
[10:25] <slougi> omeow: no, version 1.420
[10:25] <KgB_> i received the CDs :)
[10:26] <andriijas> how do i check the cpu temperature?
[10:26] <omeow> slougi, I use that version as well. Zsnes started crashing since I updated to Kubuntu edgy.
[10:26] <BluesKaj> well, wine is an interesting concept but Nero kept crashing
[10:26] <KgB_> and a guy is giving Ububtu cds in office..
[10:26] <omeow> BluesKaj, you're running nero for windows via wine?
[10:26] <omeow> Why not the native linux version or k3b?
[10:27] <KgB_> i m on live cd, 6.06 64, do anyone know whats the root pass?
[10:27] <draik> KgB_
[10:28] <RogueX> KgB_: you just type sudo
[10:28] <KgB_> hmm
[10:28] <draik> sudo passwd
[10:28] <trappist> acojlo: awesome, glad I could help
[10:28] <draik> then it will ask you for the ROOT pw... put in what you would like
[10:28] <KgB_> oh
[10:28] <draik> That's how I did it
[10:28] <KgB_> kk thanks ?D
[10:29] <KgB_> hm, and about the keyboard? mines ABNT2 pt-br keyboard, so its different
[10:30] <KgB_> how change it?
[10:30] <KgB_> do anyone know?
[10:30] <acojlo> andriijas: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[10:31] <draik> KgB_
[10:31] <draik> did you go to K Menu > System Settings > Keyboard
[10:31] <draik> ?
[10:32] <andriijas> acojlo: my /etc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty :s
[10:32] <dustin> i need someone to send me their /boot/grub/menu.lst file contents
[10:32] <cotroler_> Does any one know a good torrent client?/
[10:32] <draik> dustin, email?
[10:32] <draik> I dual boot with winxp
[10:32] <acojlo> andriijas without /etc at start
[10:32] <KgB_> aw oh sry draik, my bad thats there so easy.
[10:32] <dustin> racingfan815@yahoo.com
[10:32] <acojlo> andrijass cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[10:32] <cotroler_> Does any one know a good torrent client?/
[10:33] <draik> cotroler_, do you use mozilla or firefox?
[10:33] <andriijas> acojlo: cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory
[10:33] <wckdkl0wn> draik: how did u make it dual boot? i had xp installed and wanted to install kubuntu on a seperate partition but it removed my xp instead
[10:33] <andriijas> acojlo: i meant my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty, duh :s
[10:33] <_per_> cotroler_: azureus
[10:33] <KgB_> cotroler_: Ktorrent is not good?
[10:33] <draik> it's ok KgB_
[10:33] <cotroler_> ktorrent not that good :|
[10:34] <_per_> azureus
[10:34] <KgB_> i used azureus on windows, its good
[10:34] <KgB_> but crash windows sometimes
[10:34] <draik> wckdkl0wn, I partitioned my hdd and then formatted the drive with Kubuntu and installed it there... including swap
[10:34] <KgB_> when u use it playing
[10:34] <_per_> windows is no good anyway :P
[10:34] <KgB_> lol
[10:34] <draik> I use Azureus on windoze
[10:34] <draik> But you can also get Azureus on Linux
[10:34] <acojlo> andriijas: well I do not have idea - maybe it is not activated (modules are not loaded) ...
[10:35] <_per_> unlucky me, i am stuck on a windows system for some time now :(
[10:35] <Leeiv> where is the /etc/sysconfig/ in kubuntu ???????????
[10:35] <cotroler_> :(
[10:35] <draik> wckdkl0wn, did you partition the drive? If so, did you select the right partition?
[10:35] <andriijas> acojlo: it should be, on boot it says starting  acpi
[10:35] <angela> join #redbull
[10:35] <Leeiv> help plz
[10:36] <draik> dustin, I sent it
[10:36] <acojlo> andriijas: try - cat /etc/default/acpid  - and see if it says MODULES="all" at last line
[10:37] <cotroler_> rpm works in linux no?
[10:37] <cotroler_> *kubuntu
[10:37] <andriijas> acojlo: yeah
[10:37] <acojlo> tru lsmod | grep thermal
[10:37] <_per_> cotroler_: alien is good for converting rpm to deb
[10:37] <draik> cotroler_ have you tried azureus for linux? http://azureus.sourceforge.net
[10:37] <dustin> k, thanx
[10:38] <Mez> cotroler_, rpm's arent made for kubuntu, but they can be used if you play with them - but it's best not to unless you REALLY know what you're doing
[10:38] <cotroler_> ic..tnx
[10:38] <BluesKaj> yeah ,azureus is a cpu hog tho
[10:38] <BluesKaj> just most java stuff
[10:39] <acojlo> andrijjas: do you see thermal module loaded?
[10:39] <draik> dustin, I dual boot. If you want I can send you the default configuration of a GRUB menu
[10:39] <draik> dustin, or just simply remove the windows part at the end of the file
[10:39] <sonorous> lo.. how may i go about getting some more fonts for konsole?
[10:40] <Leeiv> is there somethng like  /etc/sysconfig/ in kubuntu
[10:40] <Leeiv> 
[10:40] <Leeiv> ?
[10:40] <acojlo> andriijas: it was: try " lsmod | grep thermal"
[10:40] <andriijas> thermal                13768  1
[10:40] <andriijas> processor              26344  1 thermal
[10:41] <acojlo> people, we love eachothers and help eachothers :)
[10:41] <KgB_> i mounted the windows partition, but its unacessible,  i have not permission to access it
[10:41] <KgB_> i treid chmod 777 /mnt
[10:42] <KgB_> but said: chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/': Read-only file system
[10:42] <KgB_> and dont change
[10:42] <KgB_> the mistak is at `777`?
[10:42] <acojlo> one big kiss for everyone of you - you may consider me a gay :) but it ain't truth. I beleive there will be from time to time kiss for a girl :)
[10:43] <draik> KgB_, you used /mnt? I thought it was under /media
[10:43] <KgB_> oh
[10:44] <draik> I'm sure they are mounted as Kubuntu starts
[10:44] <KgB_> anyone said my sometime that the right is mount there
[10:44] <KgB_> let me try..
[10:44] <draik> ok
[10:45] <acojlo> andriijas: well, try "ls -l /proc/acpi" and see is there something like thermal thrm .... ?
[10:45] <trappist> KgB_: don't ever.  ever.  use 777.
[10:45] <KgB_> hmm
[10:45] <draik> media is for automagically mounted at boot devices... mnt is for manually (you personally had to mount it) devices
[10:45] <draik> that's my understanding
[10:46] <trappist> KgB_: nothing in there - or anywhere - needs to be readable, writable and executable by everybody in the world
[10:46] <KgB_> but i dont know other, just 775 and 777, i will read anything about it
[10:47] <KgB_> draik i mounted there but got same problem
[10:47] <KgB_> cant access
[10:47] <KgB_> i think that partition is NTFS, can be it the problem?
[10:47] <trappist> KgB_: the 3 digits are for user (who owns the file), group and 'other'.  1 means execute, 2 means write and 4 means read.  7 means read + write + execute, so 777 means a free-for-all.
[10:48] <KgB_> hmmmm
[10:48] <draik> strange, I can access my drives without that problem
[10:48] <trappist> KgB_: ntfs isn't writable and fat32 doesn't understand unix permissions.
[10:48] <noipmixam> je suis sur hd0,0
[10:48] <noipmixam> mt
[10:48] <trappist> noipmixam: #ubuntu-fr
[10:49] <noipmixam> ty
[10:49] <trappist> np
[10:49] <KgB_> so, is good use like 750
[10:49] <KgB_> let me try..
[10:49] <trappist> KgB_: if it all needs to be executable - and if you can apply permissions at all to files on that filesystem... and if you own the files!
[10:49] <xd43vild66> How I make kubuntu linux most fast???
[10:50] <svizzero> hi
[10:50] <xd43vild66> hi, can you help me???
[10:50] <KgB_> hmm
[10:50] <wckdkl0wn> where would i get the w32codecs at? i tryed to download with apt-get install but they cant be found
[10:50] <draik> There are 1 or 2 apps I read somewhere about that let you write to NTFS, but ends up giving errors on the windows partition
[10:51] <KgB_> trappist: i will try install ubunto into hd
[10:51] <KgB_> maybe its the reason for that error
[10:52] <KgB_> but b4, i will look Ubuntu with Gnome, im on Kubuntu
[10:52] <draik> http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=w32codecs&btnG=Search
[10:52] <draik> ^^ wckdkl0wn
[10:52] <KgB_> brb, let me reboot...
[10:52] <draik> wckdkl0wn, for w32codecs, http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=w32codecs&btnG=Search
[10:53] <rr72> draik ur problem solved?
[10:53] <rr72> Agios~ :!:!:!:!!:!:!:!:!:!:!:!:!:!
[10:53] <draik> rr72 which of my infinite problems?
[10:53] <vitor> Hello there, I'm having problems with my laptop. Kubuntu is randomly sleeping, even while I'm working. Can anyone help me out?
[10:54] <vitor> Please (sorry, forgot my manners) :)
[10:54] <andriijas> acojlo: yeah there is a thermal_zone in /proc/acpi/ but thermal_zone it self is empty
[10:54] <draik> vitor, go through your settings in K menu > System Settings
[10:54] <cotroler_> Sigh....having trouble installing firefox....couldn't find readme....any help?????
[10:55] <gnomefreak> cotroler_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:55] <acojlo> andriijas: I can not give you a good opinion on that - I do not have knowledge
[10:55] <vitor> draik: I've already done that to configure most of the system. KLaptop's configuration has some stuff related to sleep, hibernate and stuff, but nothing else. Still, the system randomly sleeping without any reason is somewhat odd.
[10:55] <cotroler_> oh tnx gnomefreak (i downloaded it from their site)
[10:55] <andriijas> acojlo: thx anyway!
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !ff > cotroler_
[10:56] <acojlo> you can read http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/thermal.html and other pages for other info
[10:56] <gnomefreak> cotroler_: that will show you how to install it manully
[10:56] <cotroler_> tnx :)
[10:56] <draik> rr72, which problem were you talking about?
[10:56] <vitor> acojlo (assuming the tip was for me): thanks. Will do.
[10:56] <draik> vitor, sorry. That's all I got
[10:57] <rr72> ur printer one
[10:57] <vitor> draik: thanks anyway.
[10:57] <draik> vitor, sure. np
[10:58] <draik> rr72, no. I need an unmodified /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf
[10:58] <rr72> im sure google as that answer
[10:58] <rr72> or if need be purge cups
[10:58] <rr72> but that screwed me so im warning u now
[11:00] <draik> Thanks rr72
[11:00] <draik> for the heads up
[11:00] <rr72> i can't build the driver for my printer for some reason
[11:01] <RogueX> anyone know how I can get back my menu bar in Konversation?
[11:01] <rr72> Agios~ around? ready to help me and my printer?
[11:01] <omeow> gensforlinux requires gtk+2.4.0, but I have 2.0.0, how do I get the newer version via adept?
[11:02] <xd43vild66> Hi, I try to make kubuntu run fast!
[11:03] <andriijas> it is already fast
[11:03] <igor> hi
[11:03] <igor> somebody from slovakia?
[11:03] <draik> rr72, Agios helping you with your printer?
[11:03] <xd43vild66> But something with kde goes bad! I try now Dapper but I turn to fluxbox
[11:07] <draik> Anyone here have an unmodified cupsd.conf and ports.conf file?
[11:07] <rr72> i could get u one ;)
[11:08] <cotroler> sry lads got disconnected
[11:10] <archangel_> sup folks
[11:10] <rr72> screw it im going to vpn over to do all my printer stuff
[11:10] <archangel_> I cant get machromedia to work
[11:10] <cotroler> erm as i was saying after sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox  do i need to configure something to open firefox???
[11:11] <archangel_> I put the files I need in the .mosila folder and still nothing
[11:11] <Leeiv> hi
[11:11] <archangel_> hello?
[11:12] <Leeiv> hi
[11:12] <archangel_> hi
[11:12] <Leeiv> archangel_: can u help me?
[11:12] <archangel_> experienced in video?
[11:12] <Leeiv> archangel_: no
[11:12] <archangel_> man, I wioll try
[11:12] <Leeiv> archangel_: where s this file in kubuntu?: /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
[11:12] <archangel_> Leeiv: whats your prob, bro.
[11:13] <Leeiv> that location is for suse
[11:13] <Leeiv> i need to change DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER
[11:14] <archangel_> ahhh, ok
[11:14] <archangel_> video display problems?
[11:14] <Leeiv> yes
[11:14] <archangel_> gotcha
[11:15] <archangel_> I can tell you what I did to correct mine
[11:16] <archangel_> (I'm no tech person. but I can do that for you
[11:16] <archangel_> one sec
[11:17] <Leeiv> ok thx
[11:19] <archangel_> I have a brain fart
[11:19] <archangel_> Leeiv: you only need to type in one word to adjust the video display, and I have a brain fart on what that word is
[11:20] <forkz> !dmix
[11:20] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:20] <forkz> damn
[11:20] <forkz> still gnome help
[11:21] <Leeiv> archangel_: solved thx
[11:21] <cotroler> after sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox  do i need to configure something to open firefox???
[11:21] <farous> cotroler: no
[11:25] <cotroler> farous: where do i find it then?
[11:26] <ssin> a
[11:26] <farous> cotroler: i thought you were talking about the mozilla plugin for firefox sorry. you need firefox package if you want to run firefox
[11:27] <cotroler> farous: how do i get that pls?
[11:28] <farous> cotroler: use your favouraite apt front end adept or synaptic. or just sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:29] <cotroler> farous: yes i did that already but now where do i find firefox cause i cant find it lol
[11:29] <ubuntu> hi all
[11:30] <forkz> cotroler: Try to type "firefox" in terminal
[11:30] <farous> cotroler: just type firefox in a terminal
[11:30] <cotroler> forkz: it worked but can i add a shortcut or something?
[11:31] <forkz> cotroler: Do you need it :P Usually i use a terminal, so dunno how to ;)
[11:31] <farous> cotroler: there is a porgram in kde to search for new application and add them to the menu i forgot the name though was something scan
[11:31] <farous> kmenuscan or something like that
[11:31] <Gnagno> did someone had problems installing kubuntu with keyboard? I can't pass step 3 because I don't get the layout list to chose my keyboard
[11:31] <forkz> Gnagno: Do you have any special letters on you keyboard?
[11:32] <bianconeri> Hi...does anybody have any experience in xgi and compiz?
[11:32] <Gnagno> forkz: what do you mean with special letters? I have a normal logitech keyboard
[11:32] <HorseHockey> how do you PM someone in IRC
[11:32] <forkz> Gnagno: Like   etc
[11:33] <Gnagno> forkz: it's an italian keyboard, so I have 
[11:33] <forkz> Gnagno: then you should find the layout called italien or something like that
[11:34] <xd43vild66> Kubuntu Dapper so slowwwwwwwwww
[11:34] <forkz> Gnagno: I have a Danish layout... works great.
[11:34] <Gnagno> forkz: I know I should find italian layout :) the problem is that I can't see the list of layouts... the list is white and the cursor is loading since 15 minutes...
[11:35] <forkz> Gnagno: tried to restart the application?
[11:35] <obf213> anyone know how to get a wireless usb mouse working
[11:36] <gatekeeper> cotroler: Edit -> Preferences from the main menu
[11:36] <wolfmanz> is it normal for kubuntu to do a hard drive scan after the system has been shutdown 30 times?
[11:36] <Gnagno> forkz: yes, many times... I even restarted my pc... but nothing helps, can I somehow skip keyboard layout selection?
[11:36] <DrBair> obf213: shouldn't be a problem... it just a standard usb input device
[11:36] <forkz> Gnagno: The cross in the corner?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> HorseHockey: you are unbanned from #kubuntu-offtopic but i asked you to stop already please stop the ban in other channels will be lifted when the banner feels like it
[11:36] <forkz> wolfmanz: mine does, so think yes
[11:36] <obf213> dr how do i do it
[11:36] <obf213> i have it plugged in but it doesnt work
[11:36] <wolfmanz> ok thanks
[11:37] <Gnagno> forkz: ok, but if I press the cross in the corner I stop the install process...
[11:37] <cotroler> gatekeeper: edit -> preferences from the firefox main menu?
[11:37] <forkz> Gnagno: Oh.. try to ask somebody else... Really isn't that good at installing Linux ;)
[11:38] <Gnagno> forkz: thank you anyway :)
[11:38] <gatekeeper> cotroler: yep
[11:38] <forkz> np
[11:38] <cotroler> gatekeeper: tnx
[11:38] <gatekeeper> cotroler: yw :-)
[11:38] <DrBair> obf213: make sure the mouse and base are synced and everything, but a standard usb input device will just work
[11:39] <gatekeeper> cotroler: lots of usefull firefox add-ins here: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/
[11:39] <obf213> DrBlair its working
[11:40] <JustinCase> anybody have any experience with external USB drives not being recognized under ubuntu 6.0g - amd64 and kernel 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic??
[11:40] <JustinCase> s/6.0g/6.0g/
[11:40] <Gnagno> is here someone who knows how to skip the keyboard layout selection in kubuntu install?
[11:41] <rr72> Agios~ !!!!!!!!!!!!!! fixed it
[11:42] <rr72> just used a differnt driver
[11:42] <acojlo> gnagno - think about something else while you press enter at keyboard :)
[11:43] <Gnagno> acojlo: my keyboard is working perfectly, I am using it now...
[11:44] <moparisthebest> can someone point me to the system requirements for kubuntu please?
[11:44] <rr72> kubuntu.org ;)
[11:44] <moparisthebest> I cant seem to find them on kubuntu.org :/
[11:44] <rr72> :P
[11:44] <moparisthebest> that was the first place i looked :P
[11:45] <JustinCase> what are u looking 4... it runs on almost anything!
[11:45] <moparisthebest> well JustinCase I need to know how much space it needs
[11:45] <moparisthebest> the computer isnt that bad
[11:45] <moparisthebest> but has a 1.2 gig harddrive :P
[11:45] <forkz> 2 gb stands on the CD case :P
[11:46] <JustinCase> define bad
[11:46] <wckdkl0wn> is there a copy of nero for linux?
[11:46] <wckdkl0wn> or is there something better?
[11:46] <JustinCase> k3b!
[11:47] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: yes
[11:47] <rr72> k3b FTW!
[11:47] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: k3b and gnomebaker do the same things
[11:47] <moparisthebest> oh, i dont have a cd case forkz thanks
[11:47] <moparisthebest> can anyone recommend a linux flavor that takes less space?
[11:47] <forkz> moparisthebest: Just found the CD and read it :P
[11:47] <moparisthebest> maybe xubuntu?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:47] <moparisthebest> id like to stay with somthing like kubuntu :)
[11:48] <JustinCase> damn small linux
[11:48] <wckdkl0wn> how do i get k3b to convert mp3 to cda?
[11:48] <gatekeeper> moparisthebest: google for: damn small linux
[11:48] <gnomefreak> moparisthebest: kubuntu is not by any means small not supposed to be small either
[11:48] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: iirc there is a seperate app that does that
[11:49] <gnomefreak> moparisthebest: fluxbox on ubuntu ;)
[11:49] <moparisthebest> hmmm www.damnsmalllinux.org nice :P
[11:50] <forkz> I'm trying to make my soundcard work. The problem is that, it doesn't seem to send the sound using Teamspeak... Tried both with and without KDE sound system. somebody know how to fix it?
[11:51] <andriijas> is there any neat tool to manage firewall in kubuntu? i dont want to mess with iptables manually
[11:51] <rr72> andriijas~ try apt-cache search firewall?
[11:52] <tristanmike> forkz: I used "dev/dsp1" to use teamspeak
[11:52] <tristanmike> err, /dev/dsp1
[11:52] <obf213> does anyone have a dual core cpu that is recognized by kubuntu so when you do the system check it shows two cpu's
[11:52] <forkz> tristanmike: How to use that?
[11:52] <andriijas> rr72: try it your self
[11:52] <andriijas> rr72: to much crap
[11:52] <andriijas> =D
[11:52] <tristanmike> forkz: in the teamspeak options
[11:53] <forkz> tristanmike: /dev/dsp is waht it is now
[11:53] <rr72> grep gui :P
[11:53] <tristanmike> right, I changed it to /dev/dsp1"
[11:53] <rr72> sh: line 1: apt-get: command not found
[11:53] <tristanmike> you know what I mean
[11:53] <wckdkl0wn> how do i install this file ?  nerolinux-2.1.0.1-x86.deb
[11:53] <rr72> andriijas~ i don't have apt-get
[11:53] <forkz> tristanmike: So just change it, and then it should work?
[11:53] <tristanmike> wckdkl0wn: "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[11:53] <rr72> sudo dpkg -i nerolinux-2.1.0.1-x86.deb
[11:54] <tristanmike> forkz: that's what I did to get it to work, I'm no guru tho
[11:54] <forkz> rr72: Yes you have ... its default in Kubuntu
[11:54] <rr72> !print > draik
[11:54] <forkz> tristanmike: Do you still use KDE sound system?
[11:54] <wckdkl0wn> thank you
[11:54] <rr72> did i say i was in kubuntu ATM no
[11:54] <tristanmike> forkz: I'm assuming...not sure, I just changed that and it worked
[11:55] <forkz> tristanmike: Ok... will test it.
[11:55] <rr72> sh: line 1: apt-get: command not found
[11:55] <rr72> then why do i get that
[11:55] <rr72> if im in kubuntu?
[11:55] <rr72> im not in kubuntu
[11:55] <forkz> apt-get install <-- With a sudo in front that would work rr72
[11:56] <rr72> sh: line 1: sudo: command not found
[11:56] <rr72> these are all exec -o cmds
[11:56] <forkz> aye? Sudo should let you use admin mode or something like that...
[11:56] <gatekeeper> rr72: what distro are you using?
[11:56] <rr72> gatekeeper~ SuSE
[11:56] <JustinCase> echo $PATH  !!!
[11:56] <rr72> ;)
[11:57] <rr72> hence i have a big lizzard as my background
[11:57] <JustinCase> wanker!
[11:58] <rr72> me?
[11:58] <rr72> rr72_ is on kubuntu
[11:58] <JustinCase> yup
[11:58] <rr72> why cause i use somin that has been working for me for ever?
[11:59] <rr72> kubuntu had a major kdm sigfault
[11:59] <rr72> i fixed it tho
[11:59] <JustinCase> tosser!
[12:00] <JustinCase> chav!
[12:03] <obf213> does anyoen in here ever use facebook
[12:04] <obf213> because the java loader dont work
[12:04] <GlassCasket> What's the equavilent to System -> Administrator in Kubuntu?
[12:05] <JustinCase> sudo?
[12:05] <obf213> system settings?
[12:05] <grizzly> kcontrol?
[12:05] <GlassCasket> So I can get into the Synaptic package manager
[12:05] <gatekeeper> GlassCasket: K -> system settings I thiink
[12:05] <obf213> quick question, alot of cds im putting in come up as cd rom
[12:06] <JustinCase> sudo synaptic
[12:06] <GaiaX11> Hi I installed kcontrol-autostart , but when I register the programs there when I log in it says that there is an error and I cannot start them. Any1 here knows how to use that?
[12:06] <obf213> kmenu >system >adept
[12:06] <gatekeeper> GlassCasket: System menu
[12:06] <GlassCasket> Thank you.
[12:06] <gatekeeper> yw :-)
[12:06] <GlassCasket> If I have the alternat CD and I install ndiswrapper-utils, do I still have to download all the depencendies from the internet?
[12:07] <obf213> why do alot of my  cds show up as cdrom
[12:08] <gatekeeper> !ndiswrapper
[12:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs