=== Spec is now known as x-spec [12:08] hub: hehe === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] good night guys.. and happy dreams about open sourced nvidia and ati drivers :-) [12:12] bye === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=fowlduck@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin104171.justdsl.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:19] hmm, nice. OS X just wiped my mp3 player [12:23] LaserJock: iTunes did that on my brother's ipod [12:23] simply fantastic to lose all that music [12:23] well, mine is a sandisk and it shows up as a usbdisk [12:23] ??? [12:24] and it whiped it? [12:24] I didn't see any songs [12:24] so I dragged one on [12:24] and so now I have one song and nothing else [12:24] I had 1.9 GB on there === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] hey === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-60-230-255-218.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] nixternal_: hi! [01:23] how was the school session this noon (localtime)? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] crimsun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources [01:32] LaserJock: right, but more of an intuitive assessment, not log :-) [01:33] I don't know, I missed it :( === pschulz01_ [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01_ is now known as pschulz01 === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === fourwheelertux [n=chatzill@modemcable211.23-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@82.247.157.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] darn, we must be doing too much work. LP says there are 2698 pending builds :( === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan is now known as Yagisan-aWay === Yagisan-aWay is Away, Reason: ( Getting Medical Tests :( ) | Since: ( Monday, July 24, 2006. 23:20:39 ) Xlack v2.1 === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] what! drats [02:29] I missed motu school [02:30] !lilo:*! If anyone is at OSCON and can locate Nat Torkington, please message me. Thanks. [02:30] that's fine you can always check the logs [02:34] ryanakca: there is another one in a couple days [02:34] :) [02:34] err, there is? [02:35] isn't there? [02:35] well, more than a couple I guess [02:39] LaserJock: laserjock.justgotowned.com [02:40] LaserJock: fowlduck.youaremighty.com [02:40] crimsun: crimsun.youaremyfriend.com [02:40] hehe :) === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] fowlduck: oh man [02:42] LaserJock: hilarious, huh? ;D [02:42] i mean, who comes up with this? === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] fowlduck: people who have more time then me [02:47] indeed ;D === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === quidam- [n=quidam@200.84.182.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] My packges that got uploaded from the REVU aren't working from universe... I get this error when I try to install E: Package fceu-server has no installation candidate [03:23] lukaswayne9: is it in the archives yet? [03:23] LaserJock: I'll check [03:24] in Edgy I see pool/universe/f/fceu === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] It was marked uploaded a week ago [03:25] they're in the NEW queue [03:25] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=fceu [03:26] i.e., be patient and the admins will process them [03:26] oh, okay great [03:26] thanks === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] I'm using linux on powerpc and I tried installing sun-java5-jre and it's dependant on sun-java5-bin, but it doesn't look like that's available on powerpc... does someone have any insight as to why that is? [03:29] does it work on powerpc? [03:29] zul: why shouldn't it? [03:29] because Sun doesn't make binaries of them available. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] you should use IBM's 1.5 jdk instead. [03:29] crimsun: where do I get that? [03:30] mxpxpod: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html === JW [n=charlie@adsl-230-55-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] mxpxpod: 32-bit iSeries/pSeries [03:31] thanks [03:31] will that run tomcat, do you think? [03:31] yes, it will. [03:31] cool [03:31] well, I've tested 5.0 and 5.5, that is [03:32] will tomcat work on kaffe? [03:32] have not tried that. I was employed by IBM at the time, which is the only reason I know about it. [03:32] heh, ok === mxpxpod doesn't really want to sign up for an ibm id [03:33] I'd worry about privacy, but they already have my info :-) [03:33] heh [03:35] hi [03:35] hi [03:36] ah, gotta love bugmenot.com [03:37] :-) [03:38] crimsun: if only someone would package this up [03:41] it'd be a great candidate for dapper-commercial, true [03:41] is ibm in on ubuntu? === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] I don't know tbh === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] I know some people who work at the RTP facility use and test Ubuntu, and IBM has contacted Ben about the ABAT process for the kernel [03:44] i thought that was a while ago [03:44] Heya gang [03:44] yeah, that's all I know :) [03:44] yeah same here [03:44] if only we could get ibm to contribute their java like sun has [03:45] java sdk, rather [03:49] Who wants java anything? :-) [03:49] bddebian: not me... but some crazies out there do ;) === LaserJock is now known as son-of-bddebian [03:51] bddebian: what's up dude? [03:52] Uh oh [03:53] Hello son-of-bddebian :) [03:53] What'd I do this time? [03:53] hmm, maybe I should make it perminent === zul shivers === son-of-bddebian is now known as LaserJock [03:54] ah, that's better ;-) [04:25] lalla [04:28] Heya chillywilly === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] http://rafb.net/paste/results/iC9aA456.html <-- gnome-settings-daemon keeps crashing in edgy...not sure why cause it starts up fine when I start it manually... === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sean_ [n=sean@71-214-89-10.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] ooh shiny [05:23] my dapper cds just rocked up [05:23] and they include stickers! === StevenK is still waiting for his. [05:23] nice :) [05:24] StevenK: yeah, but we're in the far corner of the world. [05:24] True. [05:24] so now my work has a nic new stock [05:24] i got all kubuntu, ubuntu and edubuntu [05:24] in 32/64/mac [05:24] and like COLORS! [05:25] not sure how i ended up with so many 64bit tho [05:25] looks liek they modified by order [05:25] would have rather they modified the 64bits down than the 32s [05:25] oh wel === bddebian knows that crimsun wants to help him with axiom :-) === uniscript [n=mhosken@203.150.134.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know which module populates /etc/X11/Xsession.d? [05:37] Lathiat: I have all CD they ship [05:37] it's not the right place, but a variety of packages do, namely x11-common, dbus, and xinit, among others. [05:38] hub: as do i [05:38] altho a small quantity of the less popular ones [05:38] but good to have a few [05:38] when x is reinstalled, does that directory get blown away? If so, how does it get repopulated? [05:38] uniscript: you --reinstall the packages I just mentioned [05:38] crimsun: where should I take my question? [05:38] to #ubuntu [05:38] OK. Thanks. Bye [05:38] I have package that didn't finish compile 1.5hour after I started [05:38] *sigh* === uniscript [n=mhosken@203.150.134.40] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:39] hub: heh, i loe that happening [05:39] time for bed [05:41] Gnight hub [05:41] *sigh* === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniscript [n=mhosken@203.150.134.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] anybody got any lilo experience around here? [05:51] yes, but not for anything terribly complicated [05:53] hmm [05:53] well I managed to install Dapper on the intel iMac [05:53] LaserJock: Are the smashintels still OF? [05:53] but it doesn't find my install on boot [05:53] I wonder if I did something wrong with lilo === bddebian talks to himself some more === LaserJock [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] do you guys know about the volumeid bug yet? it's overwriting a file in libvolumeid0 [07:03] it is known [07:03] ack, thought i was in -devel [07:03] okay, cool. [07:08] someone needs to make the i386 buildd pedal faster [07:08] hehe === Hobbsee wonders who's volunteering. [07:12] lol [07:12] since ajmitch came up with that idea ..... [07:14] hi Hobbsee [07:14] hi highvoltage === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] viviersf: sadly I don't have access [07:16] lol ajmitch [07:16] was just joking nways [07:16] ajmitch: time to go and get it then. [07:16] sure, Hobbsee === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch waits for mesa to rebuild, again [07:29] excellent, ccache is working in pbuilder === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.27.251] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] good morning everybody [08:06] hi Toadstool [08:06] hi ajmitch === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.132.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chons [n=martin@xdsl-213-168-117-22.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chons [n=martin@xdsl-213-168-117-22.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0F43.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] good morning [09:23] bonjour Daniel ;) [09:23] hey Toadstool! === bjp [n=bart@82-170-236-40-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] hi MOTU World [09:32] hello [09:32] hi dholbach, Toadstool, Gloubiboulga [09:32] heya Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee [09:32] hey Gloubiboulga [09:32] hey Hobbsee === \sh_away is now known as \sh === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chons [n=NLJz9Z2h@195.14.225.141] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50800F7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bjp_ [n=bart@82-170-236-40-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@60.230.255.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-104-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@213-156-52-99.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away is now known as freeflying === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50801426.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.84.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@192.38.119.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] good morning MOTU === bjp [n=bart@82-170-236-40-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] Gloubiboulga: ping [12:52] hi Arbiter [12:53] hey Gloubiboulga :) [12:53] Gloubiboulga: fixed and uploaded agave [12:53] I've seen :) [12:53] kdocker is about to be uploaded [12:53] ok, I'll look at both a little later [12:53] Gloubiboulga: in kdocker's debian/rules i put a little bit of bashism (damned Makefile) :P [12:54] (for installing the icon and the .desktop files to proper places) [12:54] hum, you have to avoid bashisms [12:54] dh_install? [12:54] yep [12:55] mh... ok :) === Arbiter fixety fix! :D [12:55] edgy uses dash now, so bashims make the packages fail to build [12:56] Gloubiboulga: are you sure it is used on the buildds already? afaik it isn't used there yet because the chroots are not updated yet [12:57] Gloubiboulga: yup but i use only standard POSIX calls [12:57] slomo_, I don't really know but I guess it'll be used soon or later [12:57] (no {} or such things) [12:57] Arbiter, oh, it's ok then === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@144.137.231.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan-aWay is back ( Away 10 hours 33 mins 23 secs ) === Yagisan-aWay is now known as Yagisan === pirast [n=martin@p508B2D1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-227-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WikiMan is now known as MatthewV === chris^ [n=chris^@ACAD0633.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] Hi [01:42] hi chris^ [01:42] I have just the idear, that there shoud be an extra loginsession for XGL per default... [01:42] if I install XGL on Edgy [01:42] that woud be easy to switch and test XGL [01:42] yup [01:42] someone sad, i shoud post this here ;) [01:43] chris^: yup i read in #ubuntu-devel :) [01:43] :) [01:43] i'm still testing XGL on Dapper [01:43] it's quiet cool and very stable [01:43] chris^: i'm not a MOTU yet (nor an ubuntu member) [01:43] just 2 or 3 little Bugs... === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] chris^: i approve your idea :) [01:46] :) [01:49] chris^: but i don't have any weight in MOTUs decisions [01:49] well [01:50] link to the discussion/posting? [01:50] chris^: i think you should ask a MOTU directly === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-83-167.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] has something changed with langpacks? [02:17] $ urxvt [02:17] urxvt: the locale is not supported by Xlib, working without locale support. [02:17] I am using en_US.UTF8 or whatever [02:17] and language-pack-en* is installed [02:18] run locale-gen again? [02:19] sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales [02:19] I did that [02:19] to the same effect [02:19] that method is obsolete, supposedly [02:19] with the switch to belocs* [02:19] tseng: it looks like Xlib forgot about a bunch of UTF8 locales [02:20] oh, is /tat/ what the locale spew is aobut [02:20] I am not sure if this is the cause of urxvt not using a sensible font [02:21] Rxvt*font:xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:pixelsize=12 [02:21] oh maybe they changed what names they match in xres again [02:22] ah there we go. [02:23] all sorted. [02:26] tseng: and the fix was? [02:26] Rxvt*blah stopped matching [02:26] so i did a regex to URxvt.foo: blah [02:26] er [02:26] .blah: foo [02:26] but you know what I mean. [02:27] and then your xrdb -all .Xdefaults [02:27] edgy upgrade just screwed up my emacs fonts, probably not related though [02:28] if they are set in xres its possible [02:28] parsing seems less lax [02:28] they're not on here [02:28] I'll happily ignore the UTF8 errors now [02:29] since its not the cause of not reading my fonts [02:29] I am fluent in "C" === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] hi, i try to package blocxx. the source code has a dir "doc". should the files located in the dir installed to /usr/share/doc/....... or should they not? [02:45] I'm trying to package galaxymage... and I have a feeling its very simple to do so... since all I have to do is go "python GalaxyMage.py" in the source directory... except i'm not positive as to how to package it... (I'm used to the make style)... got a link anybody? === otep [n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-83-167.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] ryanakca, yesterday i hit on a howto how to make python debs.. but sadly i can find the link again, you may want to look for debhelper-python [02:57] kk, ty [02:58] pirast: just a quick thought... history? [02:58] ryanakca wait, i look if i can find it there.. [02:59] :) [03:00] ryanakca okay i found it.. but it was about build debian packages with perl modules.. sorry.. i remembered wrong [03:00] *building [03:01] lol, thanks anywais :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@213-156-52-99.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] Heya gang [03:58] hi bddebian [03:58] Heya Toadstool === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] bddebian, I have to leave for a couple of hours, let's see what we can do with prismstumbler when I'm back :) [04:13] Gloubiboulga: NP, thanks === lbm [n=lbm@0x5358aa18.hrnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-37-183.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] *sigh* === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] yaaawn === quidam- [n=quidam-@150.185.182.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] cd /var/qmail/bin [04:30] damn it === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@213-156-52-99.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian turns in his "badge" === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-79-192.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] is revu broken? [05:06] Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer === seaLne wonders if he is doing something wrong === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] seaLne: you trying to upload or download? [05:18] is a revu admin in this channel? [05:18] upload I take it... "Could not create file" [05:18] upload [05:19] dput it :) [05:19] thats what generates the error... [05:19] pirast: yes [05:19] seaLne: what package? [05:19] lol... oops.. (I thought you where using something like gftp or something) [05:19] ajmitch: kmobiletools, you able to see log? [05:19] ajmitch: whats his name? [05:20] seaLne: cleared it, try again [05:20] pirast: it's ajmitch :) [05:20] ajmitch: what was wrong? [05:20] ajmitch: can you reset my revu password? the "retreive password" python script doesn't work for me :) [05:20] seaLne: the files were there.. if an upload breaks partway through they need to be deleted [05:21] ryanakca: have you uploaded a package to revu, that appears on the page? [05:21] ah [05:21] yes, typespeed [05:21] ajmitch, nice to meet you again :-) i select blocxx to package and i finished now. so i uploaded to revu - but the password recovery function does not work. there always is a broken pipe error or there does not appear any text to paste.. [05:21] two uploads of it (two different versions) [05:21] same thing happens to me :) [05:22] does the key you use have that email address as a uid? [05:22] yes [05:23] ajmitch, sure.. [05:23] pirast: have you been accepted into the group on launchpad, and your key imported into revu? [05:24] ok, I see what the problem is for retrieving, at least [05:24] ajmitch: i think so, yes.. it shows "approved", and my key is in launchpad, too.. [05:24] ajmitch: great :-) [05:25] be patient, I'm reimporting keys [05:29] did revu not used to have a last generated date on it somewhere? === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-77-229.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] ok, blocxx & kmobiletools should be up now [05:31] try retrieving passwords [05:32] ajmitch: works, ty [05:32] thanks [05:33] ajmitch: works, thanks [05:37] what package provides gnome-config? "./configure: line 1479: gnome-config: command not found" [05:38] ryanakca: that's some GNOME-1.x thing [05:38] AFAIK [05:39] and how do I build a package that depends on it? [05:39] are you sure you want to build it? [05:39] well... it's the only linux euchre game I've found :) [05:39] GNOME-1.x is pretty obsolete [05:40] but, surprise, libgnome-dev is still in dapper [05:40] ryanakca: packages.ubuntu.com has a search facility, btw (which I used to find out the information for you) [05:40] ah, ty.. I had searched aptitude :) [05:40] aptitude doesn't search for files, use apt-file for that [05:41] ty [05:41] http://sourceforge.net/projects/euchre/ [05:42] hasn't been touched since 02... but oh well [05:44] azeem: any ideas? [05:44] about what? [05:45] Development Status : 3 - Alpha [05:45] azeem!! Hey, you are Mr. Science packages right? :-) [05:45] bddebian: I'm Mr. Chemistry packages [05:45] Damn [05:49] azeem: I can't install libgnome-dev without removing libdb4.3.dev... http://pastebin.ca/100936 [05:50] ryanakca: so make a decision which one you need more urgently [05:50] which means that the end-user will have to make the same decision [05:50] does euchre need db4.3? [05:50] and libdb4.3 and libdb3 can't coexist? [05:51] hmmm... not from what I can tell [05:53] ryanakca: the runtime libdb package do not conflict [05:53] soo... why can't I keep both? [05:54] because the development packages conflict [05:54] ok... [05:55] ryanakca: are you planning to make a .deb out of this [05:55] ? [05:55] yes... but before I want to test it... [05:55] but I don't think making a .deb of it will be such a good idea [05:58] ok... figured it out... it's a choice between apache and euchre... 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[10:13] uh, wrong channel, sorry [10:13] haha [10:13] well I'm much better at it for sure [10:14] allee, why ? fai is in universe ;) [10:14] ogra: need to find out if fai fits my needs ;) [10:14] allee: what are your needs? [10:15] raphink: automtic install of independet hosts (no nfs), with later management of config files === allee plays currently with preseeding to speed up installation [10:16] then FAI/Cfengine is what you need indeed === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU [10:16] ah, cool I remembers from long time ago that it used nfs [10:16] yes [10:16] it uses nfs for the PXE boot === cassidy [n=cassidy@136.88-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] preseeding should suffice as well, at least in ubuntu ... [10:18] raphink: eh? So instead of mounting, e.g. a CDROM, it mount something like an installation image via nfs? [10:19] well no [10:19] it boots the client using the NFS root [10:19] delivered through PXE boot [10:19] the client boots with PXE, gets a kernel and a minimal boot environement on the NFS root [10:19] then it declares classes using the FAI client [10:20] and then the FAI server sends it packages to install depending on the classes it declared [10:20] then you can run scripts for config and such (perl, bash, cfengine, whatever) [10:20] and you can use the classes defined in the FAI to pass to cfengine or to other scripts [10:21] ah, so cfengine is not an integrated part [10:21] well you add cfengine scripts to FAI [10:22] so they are run as part of the FAI install [10:22] k [10:22] then you can use softupdate to update your machines [10:22] and fai-updater as a nice centralized tool for that [10:23] well, you can as well do the same with a simple preseed file ... wthere is the advantage of fai here ? [10:23] ogra: how do you mean? [10:23] ogra: did type faster than me :) [10:23] what is preseeding? [10:23] raphink, i can replace the complete fai class stuff with a preseed file ... [10:23] raphink: what's the advantage of FAI+cfengine combo compared to preseed+cfengine [10:24] what is preseed? [10:24] raphink, ubuntus way to do mass deployments :) [10:24] how so? [10:24] preseed means that debconf allows you to set key value pairs for every debian package (including d-i) [10:24] ogra: you use preseeding? [10:25] we use per package preseeding in ltsp ... which i maintain [10:25] and i use a preseed file for the edubuntu CD [10:25] ogra: I don't see how that allows to install tuned machines via PXE === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] ogra: how do you select the set of packages to install on a particular box? [10:25] hi azeem [10:25] hi === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] raphink, what exactly do you tune ? package selections and configs, no ? [10:25] raphink: pxe -> netboot.tar -> log preseed file -> stops debconf to ask question [10:25] s/log/load/ [10:26] azeem, with an individual preseed file ? [10:26] ogra: yes, depending on static and dynamic classes, that can be defined by scripts [10:26] hi azeem [10:26] allee: you can only install one type of machines with that [10:26] or do I misunderstand how it works? [10:27] with FAI, there is not one file describing the packages to be installed [10:27] there are multiple classes [10:27] raphink: no, I use postinstall scripts to do anything special (depending on hostname) [10:27] that can define which packages to install depending on the belonging to groups, arch, type of network card or whatever else [10:28] it also defines how to partition the drives [10:28] allee: so you have to modify the packages [10:28] the question is whether you really need that flexibility for your needs [10:28] azeem: yes indeed [10:28] raphink: right so classes reduce overhead. But AFAIR cfengine uses the classes concept too [10:28] allee probably installs a set of identical boxen [10:28] I personally do, for my pool of machines [10:28] allee: yes, and taht's the good point, FAI can forward its classes to the cfengine scripts [10:29] so that you only define the classes once [10:29] allee: cfengine won't let you install packages depending on the classes though [10:29] and one important thing for me: cfengine only executes commands on the client, not on the server [10:29] so if you want to generate conf depending on parameters on the server side [10:30] it's better to have FAI run some perl/bash/python/php script before it runs the cfengine one that will merely deploy the generated conf [10:30] but then as azeem said it depends on your needs [10:30] whether you need a pool of identical machines [10:30] or very similar [10:31] or you need a pool with 1000 machines belonging to at least 10 different classes [10:31] and then FAI is very useful === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU [10:31] ~ 80 hosts ~ 5 classes, of dozend of different hardware ;) [10:32] I'd got with FAI for that still allee [10:32]