[03:11] <LaserJock> jsgotangco!
[03:12] <jsgotangco> hey
[03:12] <LaserJock> dude, I'm running Dapper on my iMac right now!
[03:13] <jsgotangco> im surprised...
[03:13] <jsgotangco> i cannot relate to it since i dont have a mac nor have access to one
[03:13] <crimsun> AIGLX + Xfce == nice
[03:13] <jsgotangco> really?
[03:14] <crimsun> argh, ECHANNEL
[03:15] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: well, this is an intel mac so it really is cool
[03:15] <jsgotangco> oohhhh
[03:15] <jsgotangco> so it works
[03:18] <LaserJock> yeah
[03:18] <LaserJock> the booting is a bit strange
[03:18] <LaserJock> but it works
[03:20] <jsgotangco> interesting
[03:20] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:20] <bddebian> Hi jsgotangco
[03:20] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:15] <hlabs> one question i have
[04:15] <hlabs> can yahoo messenger the one with the voice stuff work with edubuntu
[04:22] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[04:22] <mhz> jsgotangco: what?
[04:22] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: you on the marketing list?
[04:23] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: i think i left the marketing list
[04:23] <Burgundavia> it is mostly useless, but you might want to join in the "unified branding" thing john baer just posted
[04:24] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: thanks i'll look into it, i have very little interest in unified branding btw, i was just looking at the logos of teams yesterday and thought it would be neat to have some kind of locoteam intramurals
[04:25] <hlabs> listen does edubuntu work with yahoo messenger. 
[04:25] <Burgundavia> hlabs: yep, via gaim
[04:25] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: this would be unified branding across Edu/U/K/Xubuntu
[04:26] <jsgotangco> hlabs: the voice stuff doesn't work
[04:26] <jsgotangco> hlabs: yahoo isnt developing an improved client at all
[04:26] <hlabs> is there any IM software that works with voice in edu
[04:26] <jsgotangco> hlabs: gizmo, skype, ekiga to name a few
[04:26] <jsgotangco> (ekiga is a softphone btw)
[04:27] <hlabs> yeah. But on ekiga its not letting me setup any other sip accoutns. Keep son crashing
[04:27] <Burgundavia> ekiga is good
[04:28] <mhz> (well, it does run but I can't seem to talk to the other person :) )
[04:28] <jsgotangco> its probably your network, not ekiga
[04:28] <hlabs> listen i think amsn has the web cam option on it
[04:28] <jsgotangco> ekiga is just a softphone
[04:29] <mhz> jsgotangco: yeah
[04:29] <hlabs> but it tells me that it cant listen as im behind a firewall
[04:29] <hlabs> whats up with that
[04:29] <mhz> jsgotangco: however, same network used to work just fine with Gnome-meeting
[04:30] <mhz> in other words, breezy -> I could talk
[04:30] <mhz> dapper -> nope
[04:34] <hlabs> i gotta logitech webcam you know how i can set it up
[06:15] <jjjjjjj> is there a way to turn on the keypad on a mac keyboard?
[06:15] <jjjjjjj> got ubuntu running on a mac G4 700Mhz.
[06:24] <jjjjjjj> you know the sad thing is that if I asked this question in a windows chat room I'd have at least 3 replies.
[06:25] <jjjjjjj> 1234567890  but no hard feelings... I seem to have somehow stumbled onto the answer.  "Seek and Ye Shall Find" - Jesus   0987654321
[06:32] <mhz> what was that?
[06:32] <mhz> why people usually stop by this channel thinking it is Yet Another Ubuntu technical support channel ?
[06:34] <crimsun> mhz: it has "ubuntu" in the channel string
[06:34] <bimberi> EDucate people about UBUNTU perhaps ;)
[06:34] <LaserJOck> becuase it is #edubuntu and not #edubuntu-devel
[06:36] <mhz> oh, well, i hope they don't leave their negative vibrations once they log off, pissed off
[06:36] <crimsun> mhz: some people expect others to spoonfeed them first.
[06:37] <mhz> spoonfeed?
[06:37] <mhz> oooh
[06:37] <mhz> I get it!
[06:37] <mhz> feed them with a spoon
[06:37] <mhz> like babies
[06:37] <mhz> duh!
[06:37] <crimsun> (right)
[06:37] <bimberi> you got it!
[06:38] <mhz> .oO( these english speakers are crazy)
[06:38] <bimberi> do nothing for yourself, have it all served up to you
[06:38] <mhz> yup
[06:38] <crimsun> sorry, I should have used something less locale-specific
[06:38] <mhz> crimsun: it is ok, I learn new stuff
[06:39] <mhz> crimsun: however, it sounded like this http://mhz.homelinux.org/elwiki/FunPictures/CustomerService?highlight=%28pictures%29
[06:40] <mhz> (the 2nd part)
[06:40] <crimsun> man, I haven't read UF in ages
[06:41] <crimsun> I survived my undergrad days solely on UF
[06:41] <mhz> lol
[06:41] <mhz> yeah, they are COOL
[06:42] <mhz> crimsun: only UF? no Macarroni and Cheese?
[06:42] <crimsun> I still have the suse dust puppy sticker
[06:42] <mhz> nah!? really?
[06:42] <mhz> eeek
[06:42] <crimsun> yeah, it's half-worn, but it's on a textbook :)
[06:43] <LaserJock> crimsun: you ever read http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
[06:43] <crimsun> oh yeah, LJ
[06:43] <crimsun> that's classic stuff
[06:43] <crimsun> mhz: nope, haven't read the latter
[06:43] <LaserJock> we like it in our lab
[06:44] <mhz> crimsun: hehehe, I meant, "only survived reading UF? did not eat Macarroni and Cheese?
[06:44] <LaserJock> Ramen
[06:44] <crimsun> mhz: oh, yeah, did that and ramen, too, before my junior year
[06:45] <mhz> nice, it seems to happen in many countries, just like that :)
[06:45] <Amaranth> i don't even do mac and cheese
[06:45] <Amaranth> ramen and cereal
[06:46] <LaserJock> me too
[06:46] <LaserJock> never licked mac and chesse
[06:47] <crimsun> not even once? ;)
[06:47] <LaserJock> liked
[06:48] <LaserJock> and no
[06:48] <crimsun> yeah, I was playing off your typo
[06:50] <mhz> Any of you ever read this comic?
[06:50] <mhz> http://mhz.homelinux.org/somework/IntroMoinMoin1?action=SlideShow&n=5
[06:51] <mhz> Term Unit X
[06:51] <crimsun> haven't
[06:51] <mhz> it is pretty cool comic
[06:52] <mhz> very well drawn, great mature story
[07:08] <highvoltage> Znarl++
[07:08] <highvoltage> > When the Edubuntu wiki <http://wiki.edubuntu.org> is accessed, the user
[07:08] <highvoltage> > is warned that the certificate belongs to wiki.ubuntu.com.
[07:08] <highvoltage> > Is there any way that this could be fixed?
[07:08] <highvoltage> Done.
[07:09] <highvoltage> --
[07:09] <highvoltage> Karl Tilbury
[07:09] <highvoltage> :)
[07:11] <Burgundavia> hey highvoltage
[07:13] <highvoltage> hey Burgundavia!
[07:13] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: how are things?
[07:14] <Burgundavia> not bad
[07:14] <highvoltage> seems like pygi just got up too :)
[07:14] <pygi> morning all :)
[07:16] <highvoltage> mornign pygi 
[07:17] <mhz> highvoltage: cool!
[07:25] <highvoltage> morning mhz 
[07:25] <mhz> hey
[07:42] <jsgotangco> hey ogra
[07:54] <cbx33> mornin peeps
[08:34] <RichEd> jello :)
[08:38] <Burgundavia> 'ello RichEd
[08:42] <RichEd> Burgundavia:  just checking ... you in Canada ? (according to JaneW)
[08:42] <Burgundavia> no, I live in Soviet Canuckistan ;)
[08:42] <RichEd> ah ... well at least that's further away from that annoying george fellow ;)
[08:43] <Burgundavia> thankfully, he is on the otherside of the continent
[08:43] <RichEd> have you got an "about page" anywhere ? to save me asking you annoying questions ...
[08:44] <Burgundavia> not a single one
[08:44] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CoreyBurger
[08:44] <Burgundavia> that links to various other places, including Wikipedia
[08:44] <Amaranth> "Python 2.4 allocated small objects in 256K-sized arenas, but never freed arenas. With this patch, Python will free arenas when they're empty. The net effect is that on some platforms, when you allocate many objects, Python's memory usage may actually drop when you delete them, and the memory may be returned to the operating system."
[08:44] <Amaranth> Kick. Ass.
[08:46] <RichEd> thanks :)
[08:47] <Burgundavia> RichEd: googling me is always informative as well
[08:48] <Burgundavia> hmm, appears you have no google juice RichEd
[08:48] <RichEd> Burgundavia: googling is dangerous for me ... i end up opening eleventy seven windows ... looking for a quick coffee read today ... not a research project ;)
[08:49] <RichEd> (especially now that i have "discovered" firefox and the tabs ... neat :) ... but even more open pages now)
[08:49] <mhz> RichEd: hi there... There is going to be the annual Linux Encounter (not sure if that is correct into english) in Chile, in November. Any chances you can come and give a talk? I am preparing some material for that event. However, if we're gonna have some kind of Edubuntu market insertion plan for LAm, you would the one to give the impression of "we're serious about it ":D
[08:50] <RichEd> mhz: thanks for the heads up ... sounds like an opportunity ... but all (good) things revolve around the meetings next week with the powers that be.
[08:50] <mhz> yeah! Google is like wikipedia... I always endup reading much more than expected about other stuff
[08:51] <RichEd> mhz: pop me an email, with background ... i'd sure like to come ... will need to build a quick case for approval
[08:51] <mhz> okis
[08:52] <RichEd> but if we can combine the encounter request with a m"eet mhz and draw up a LAm snapshot & plan for next 12 months suggestion" ... would make sense (to me)
[08:52] <mhz> RichEd: even greater!
[08:54] <RichEd> pre-requisite homework:  i would need to ask you then to draw up a summary of the entire South American continent to give me a background on that region ... and then make you the "South American Champion for Ubuntu & Edubuntu)
[08:54] <RichEd> so i can justify that i am building a regional support base for Education Programme ... and saving time & effort & money in future
[08:55] <RichEd> would that make sense (it would allow me to give you much more support) ?
[08:56] <mhz> RichEd: I have just been invited to a kind of "seminar" for people from 19 to 29 years old. The seminar is to motivate them and talk about 'enterpreneouring' (?), FLOSS vision and Sustainable Development, How and Why Linux has become succesfull, and many other things. I'll have a meeting anut it hopefully on Friday, so I'll tell you afterwards what they want me for. So far, I know they'll have 50 pcs available. /me will try to have at least 5 with Edubuntu 
[08:56] <mhz> :D
[08:57] <mhz> anut =about
[08:57] <RichEd> mhz: going to open a pvt window for discussion with you ... give me 5 mins to clear up something first
[08:58] <mhz> RichEd: wow! Thanks for that vote of confidence!! Sure, I can do that homework, happily
[08:59] <RichEd> (mhz: it's all a cunning plan to offload work from my list onto yours ... but hey ... it should be good for all of us : you & me & Edubuntu & LAm)
[08:59] <mhz> hehehe
[09:03] <jsgotangco> wazzup
[09:04] <RichEd> 'lo jsgotangco :)
[09:04] <jsgotangco> hey champ
[09:05] <jsgotangco> what's cookin
[09:08] <RichEd> toast (soon) busy with coffee now ;)
[09:24] <mhz> jsgotangco: re 10 inches laptops for a cheap price/ I did find the specs, thx for the hints. I just did not find them for cheap price. I want them for teachers and students, so for those prices, it is not a good deal. :D
[09:24] <jsgotangco> well that's the price you pay for miniaturization
[09:25] <mhz> yeah, i know.
[09:25] <mhz> Chile wont be part of OLPC (still dont know why...nobody understands it), so I decided to look up for other alternatives.
[09:26] <mhz> more expensive, but affordable
[09:26] <jsgotangco> so is my home country
[09:26] <mhz> IIRC, only Argentina and Brazil have requested units
[09:27] <mhz> jsgotangco: do you know your Gov. reasons?
[09:27] <jsgotangco> we have more problems here like lack of classrooms and teachers so having computers for each student is not really an appealing problem to solve
[09:28] <jsgotangco> private foundations have been more successful in donations and such and the Education Media initiative is wildly successful
[09:29] <jsgotangco> far flung areas have no access to computers though but interestingly, the penetration rate of mobile phones is suprisingly high :)
[09:30] <jsgotangco> we are a natural-disater prone country and schools also serve as evacuation centers
[09:30] <jsgotangco> (public schools that is)
[09:33] <jsgotangco> edubuntu as a server solution is not really an appealing solution here either as we can't even achieve a 1:1 ratio
[09:34] <jsgotangco> the public school in my hometown for example has around a thousand students but only has 10 computers
[09:34] <jsgotangco> one of those computers was my old P3
[09:36] <jsgotangco> come to think of it, im pretty sure i was one of the first people being connected online in my place :)
[09:36] <jsgotangco> s/first people/first group of people
[09:38] <mhz> jsgotangco: gee
[09:38] <jsgotangco> there are certain regions here that are very very poor
[09:39] <jsgotangco> remember we are more than 7,000 islands spread from north to south
[09:39] <jsgotangco> our total coastline combined is bigger than that of the united states
[09:39] <mhz> jsgotangco: the more I hear/read about this, the more I am convinced it is each person's responsibility to do something to change it (if we realize this is bad, we must do something to solve it).
[09:40] <jsgotangco> we are very very spread out
[09:40] <mhz> yeah, true
[09:40] <jsgotangco> socially and economically
[09:40] <RichEd> ogra are you here or busy driving a truck around somewhere ;)
[09:40] <jsgotangco> so an initiative may only benefit a certain region for it to be successful first
[09:41] <mhz> In Chile we are not that spread but yeah, we are a long thin country with many diff geographical areas and weather, so it is not easy to coordinate.
[09:41] <jsgotangco> education here, is like not even on the top 10 priorities of the national budget
[09:41] <jsgotangco> because almost half of the national budget goes into debt servicing
[09:42] <jsgotangco> the stories of public school teachers going abroad to become domestic help for other countries is too common already
[09:42] <RichEd> jsgotangco: sounds like you need bono to come sing about debt relief when he is finished in africa !
[09:42] <jsgotangco> sure 
[09:43] <jsgotangco> 30 years ago, we could have been a superpower in the region if the nuclear program went into fruit
[09:48] <mhz> jsgotangco: we, in LAm are told we have  huge international debt (money) with Europe and USA...and it is fun.. Spanish and Portuguese people took (and still take) most of our many resources, for free, but we owe them :)
[09:49] <jsgotangco> i guess we can all blame the spanish of the middle ages heh
[09:49] <mhz> hehehehe
[09:49] <cbx33> morning mhz jsgotangco 
[09:49] <jsgotangco> hi
[09:49] <jsgotangco> we're like under spanish rule for 600+ years
[09:49] <mhz> well, it was our fault too, we let that happen somehow
[09:50] <mhz> cbx33: hi there. how's family?
[09:50] <cbx33> yeh doing good
[09:50] <mhz> nice
[09:50] <cbx33> you?
[09:50] <mhz> me?
[09:51] <cbx33> how are you doing?
[09:52] <mhz> I am fine...just can't sleep yet. My daughter is happily sleeping and my ex-wife (but we live toghether) is also sleeping and healthy...so I can't complain
[10:11] <mhz> Guys, I am trying to modify topic of #ubuntu-meeting
[10:12] <mhz> Does that have to be via fridge 1st?
[10:12] <mhz> if so, can someone do it? (or it's anyone's task)
[10:13] <mhz> I wanna add '27 Jul 15:00 UTC: Edubuntu Handbook'
[10:16] <mhz> jsgotangco: ?
[10:20] <mhz> RichEd: ping
[10:20] <RichEd> pong
[10:20] <RichEd> wrapped my mail chores ... can i get a coffee & join you in pvt ?
[10:21] <mhz> oh, for a moment I thought I had been disconnected
[10:21] <mhz> RichEd: sure, 3 minutes?
[10:21] <RichEd> and counting
[10:21] <mhz> heheh
[11:45] <mhz> Guys, I am trying to modify topic of #ubuntu-meeting
[11:45] <mhz> Does that have to be via fridge 1st?
[11:45] <mhz> I wanna add '27 Jul 15:00 UTC: Edubuntu Handbook'
[11:51] <pygi> mhz, isnt that already on the fridge?
[11:51] <mhz> pygi: nope
[11:51] <mhz> that is why I am trying to add it
[11:53] <pygi> just add it on the fridge (poke jdub I would say)
[12:16] <mhz> pygi: I have just finished a meeting and need some sleep (at least 30 minutes)..could you please poke jdub for the Handbook Meeting?
[12:16] <mhz>  /whois jdub shows no channel
[12:57] <cbx33> morning ogra 
[12:57] <ogra> hey hey
[12:58] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/attemp2.mp3
[12:58] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/attempt2.mp3
[12:58] <cbx33> whoops
[12:58] <cbx33> just inital conecpt and ideas at this stage
[12:58] <cbx33> it's onyl a few K
[12:58] <ogra> nice
[12:59] <cbx33> suggestions comments?
[01:00] <ogra> the break in the beginning feels a bit strange, i'd make it shorter, but else i think its great
[01:00] <cbx33> cool
[01:00] <cbx33> do you mean the pause between the notes?
[01:00] <cbx33> or the actual pause before it starts?
[01:00] <ogra> yeah
[01:00] <cbx33> ok cool
[01:00] <ogra> no
[01:00] <juliux> cbx33, sounds great, but a littlebit windows like
[01:00] <cbx33> I'll make another version tonight
[01:01] <cbx33> juliux: any suggestions
[01:01] <cbx33> as I said it's still VERY early days yet
[01:01] <juliux> cbx33, second 5 and the rest sounds like a windows sound
[01:02] <juliux> cbx33, the start sounds realy great
[01:02] <rodarvus> nice sound, I liked it
[01:02] <rodarvus> how long is the current one we have on Ubuntu?
[01:02] <ogra> similar
[01:02] <cbx33> about the same
[01:02] <rodarvus> *nods*
[01:02] <ogra> or even a little longer
[01:02] <cbx33> yeh I think it possibly is
[01:02] <rodarvus> chaging the login sound would be nice
[01:02] <cbx33> :D
[01:02] <cbx33> I agree
[01:02] <ogra> changing all sounds would be better :P
[01:03] <cbx33> ogra: that is my intention
 the break in the beginning feels a bit strange, i'd make it shorter, but else i think its great
[01:03] <rodarvus> agreed
[01:03] <cbx33> it was done like that...to ease you into your desktop :p
[01:03] <rodarvus> cbx33, did you played it on a keyboard connected to your computer?
[01:03] <rodarvus> a midi keyboard, I mean
[01:03] <cbx33> I used a Korg X5D synth for most sounds
[01:03] <cbx33> and then used Ardour for the disc recording/mixing and effectsd
[01:03] <rodarvus> right
[01:04] <cbx33> and the korg has a wonderful sound set
[01:05] <cbx33> maybe have some jungle drums in there :p
[01:06] <rodarvus> south africans could feel offended if you use a jungle drums in there :)
[01:06] <cbx33> ahhh true
[01:07] <cbx33> ogra: so then rather than.....   |-|---|-|---|>------     more like |--|--|--|>--------  ? if that makes sense?
[01:07] <ogra> and catholics could feel offended if you use bells ? come on :)
[01:07] <rodarvus> I wonder when the "new zeroconf spec" thread on ubuntu-devel@ is gonna be ended
[01:07] <rodarvus> it must have about 200 emails by now
[01:07] <cbx33> dang I'm feeling offended already.....ok...just sine tones for this theme then :p
[01:07] <ogra> rodarvus, not even ignoring it solves that it seems ...
[01:09] <rodarvus> broken openoffice.org-l10n is holding the rest of the upgrades
[01:09] <cbx33> rodarvus: again?????
[01:10] <rodarvus> cbx33, yeah, but this time not on the build system
[01:10] <rodarvus> the OOo package which was building yesterday was published to the mirrors
[01:10] <rodarvus> but is missing openoffice.org-l10n
[01:10] <ogra> cbx33, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/SoundEvents
[01:10] <rodarvus> which was uploaded this morning
[01:10] <ogra> found it :)
[01:10] <cbx33> dang I was searching for that as well
[01:10] <rodarvus> and (if build suceeds) will be published in about 15 hours from now
[01:10] <rodarvus> so
[01:11] <rodarvus> b0rked updates in Edgy for the next 15 hours :P
[01:11] <cbx33> 8 or 44kHz, - seems a little too coarse to me :p
[01:11] <ogra> "The average Windows user has not heard a system beep in 10 years!"
[01:11] <ogra> hehe
[01:12] <cbx33> it's like....hmmm should we have ...crap quality....or space hogging quality?
[01:13] <cbx33> its been around for a while 2005-04-23
[01:17] <rodarvus> ogra, do you remember where logs for our irc channels are kept?
[01:17] <rodarvus> found it: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[01:18] <cbx33> right back alter all
[01:18] <cbx33> I'm getting kicked out of work 
[01:19] <cbx33> at 12:18
[01:19] <cbx33> I should be here till 4
[01:19] <cbx33> but i nthe summer they shut early
[01:19] <cbx33> last year it was 2
[01:19] <cbx33> this year should be 1
[01:19] <cbx33> but hey I'm still getting paid so I'm not gonna complain
[01:19] <cbx33> more edubuntu time :D
[01:19] <cbx33> bye all
[03:36] <RichEd> out for 30 mins
[03:59] <bddebian> Howdy
[04:35] <mhz> morning guys
[04:35] <jsgotangco> hey
[04:36] <jsgotangco> and im already preparing to sleep in an hour =)
[04:36] <mhz> I guess that there is not point is setting new topic on #ubuntu-meeting, if we are only 30 minutes left for Edubuntu Handbook meeting, tight ?
[04:36] <mhz> ;)
[04:40] <pygi> mhz, 20 minutes :P
[04:41] <mhz> ;)
[04:42] <mhz> == REMINDER | Edubuntu Handbook meeting, Today, in 18 minutes, #ubuntu-meeting ==
[04:51] <Petaris> Morning all
[04:52] <mhz> morning
[04:53] <RichEd> hi again mhz ...
[04:55] <mhz> RichEd: hi, Mr. Lizzard-on-shoulder's Husband ;D
[04:56] <ogra> mhz, they have rats, not lizzards ;)
[04:56] <mhz> HedgeMage: cool! I did not know if you would make it
[04:56] <RichEd> that would be a big lizard ... it's Mr. Lizzards-on-shoulder ;)
[04:56] <mhz> ogra: hehehe
[04:56] <mhz> ogra: still "ogra-on-the-move" ?
[04:57] <RichEd> ogra: we have rats & lizards & geckos
[04:57] <ogra> mhz, just packed my motorbike in the truck ;)
[04:57] <ogra> RichEd, oh, Jane never told me, she only talked about the rats ...
[04:57] <mhz> ogra: nice! so you'll be offline for how many days?
[04:57] <ogra> none :)
[04:58] <mhz> == REMINDER | Edubuntu Handbook meeting, Today, in 3 minutes, #ubuntu-meeting ==
[04:58] <RichEd> geckos are free in africa ... they're like cute soft lizards
[04:58] <ogra> probably monday, depends how fast i am with unloading ...
[04:58] <HedgeMage> mhz: I have to cut out but I'll be logging and pygi is going to run things
[04:58] <RichEd> hopw's it looking to join us tomorrow in meeting ogra  ?
[04:59] <ogra> if they dont shut down the DSL here tonight, it should be all fine 
[04:59] <mhz> ogra, RichEd, and all... I may be offline for a couple of days (maybe even a week). I mean, there will be no broadband at home, so, I'll log in from a cibercafe near the house.
[04:59] <mhz> That means, no more coffee while on the web :(
[05:00] <mhz> RichEd: ohh, I haven't sent you yesterdays meeting log
[05:00] <mhz> had
[05:00] <mhz> hard
[05:00] <RichEd> already got it thanks
[05:01] <RichEd> but feel free to abuse yourself
[05:01] <mhz> == REMINDER | Edubuntu Handbook meeting, Today, Now?, #ubuntu-meeting ==
[05:01] <mhz> hehehe
[05:02] <mhz> sorry, I started reading emails yesterday and then I just forgot about it
[06:58] <LaserJock> hi cbx33 
[07:28] <cbx33> hey LaserJock 
[08:48] <cbx33> Hi all
[08:48] <cbx33> new sounds scheme test
[08:48] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/attempt3.mp3
[08:49] <ogra> could you now add some living elements =
[08:49] <ogra> ?
[08:49] <cbx33> living elemts?
[08:50] <ogra> i.e. the current one has birds singing silently in the background ..
[08:50] <cbx33> i was gonna add kids laughing.....for an edubuntu one :p
[08:50] <cbx33> hmmm
[08:50] <ogra> something like playing kids 
[08:50] <ogra> yay
[08:50] <cbx33> I'll see what i canc do
[08:50] <cbx33> does it sound better
[08:50] <ogra> great minds think alike :)
[08:50] <ogra> yup, sounds great
[08:50] <cbx33> btw just so yous guys know....that last one was created entirely on ubuntu
[08:50] <cbx33> no keyboards
[08:50] <cbx33> I actually played it all on the laptop
[08:51] <juliux> cbx33, great song
[08:51] <cbx33> so that one is better yeh?
[08:52] <juliux> cbx33, yes
[08:52] <cbx33> great right I'll be back alter
[09:13] <mbuf> i tried installed edubuntu on T41 that already has ubuntu dapper beta and installed grub to MBR, now system is not booting - error message "GRUB Loading Stage 1.5. Grub loading, please wait ... Error 18" - I am not able to enter into BIOS either :(
[09:13] <mbuf> what do i do ?
[09:19] <Burgwork> you need to reinstall grbu
[09:19] <Burgwork> grab an ubuntu cd, there should a rescue mode on that
[10:51] <pygi> hey RichEd 
[10:51] <RichEd> hey ...
[10:52] <RichEd> not officiallly here :) just messing around with last of my install issues - GRUB edit etc.
[10:54] <RichEd> :)
[10:55] <RichEd> dunno can't see nothing ?
[10:55] <pygi> lol, right :)
[10:57] <RichEd> while it's quiet, can i sneak in a dumb question ?
[10:57] <Burgwork> RichEd, nope
[10:58] <pygi> RichEd, it isn't quiet, it's just dark :P
[10:58] <RichEd> (seems to work for wimmin ;)
[10:58] <pygi> RichEd, ok, shoot, so if I don't know as usual, I'll be quiet :)
[10:58] <Burgwork> speaking of wimmin, how is your lovely wife?
[10:58] <RichEd> with file search in Linux ... how do you list multiple file patterns in the search box ?
[10:59] <RichEd> Burgwork:  sleeping i think
[10:59] <RichEd> with MS file search, I can do [ *.png, *.abc ]  
[10:59] <RichEd> commas between
[10:59] <Burgwork> hmm, no idea
[10:59] <Burgwork> never used search
[11:01] <pygi> RichEd, "locate *.png *.abc" ?
[11:01] <RichEd> pygi: using the GUI interface
[11:01] <pygi> or "slocate *.png *.abc"
[11:01] <pygi> ah
[11:01] <RichEd> the one on the places menu
[11:02] <RichEd> if i try what you suggest, it finds nothing at all, not even the first pattern
[11:02] <Burgwork> the one on the places menu also uses locate
[11:03] <pygi> RichEd, you must first do "sudo updatedb"
[11:03] <pygi> then do "slocate *.png *.abc"
[11:03] <RichEd> explain what this does please ? updatedb ?
[11:04] <pygi> updates a database? :)
[11:04] <pygi>    updatedb - update the slocate database
[11:04] <RichEd> ah ... that must be like indexing files for quick search
[11:04] <Burgwork> pygi, we need beagle or something better
[11:04] <RichEd> and asking for the index to be updated
[11:05] <pygi> Burgwork, beagle is fine in current state
[11:05] <pygi> at least compared to before :P
[11:05] <Burgwork> not on laptops
[11:05] <Burgwork> when you start in the sewer...
[11:05] <RichEd> i'll leave you alone now and go back towards that bright light
[11:05] <RichEd> tomorrow gents :)
[11:06] <pygi> RichEd, try that pls :)
[11:06] <pygi> Burgwork, hm, right
[11:06] <RichEd> pygi: okay
[11:08] <RichEd> yep ... multiple patterns match with space between.
[11:09] <RichEd> and man says:
[11:09] <RichEd> updatedb
[11:09] <RichEd> NAME
[11:09] <RichEd>        updatedb - update the slocate database
[11:09] <pygi> I pasted you that =P
[11:09] <RichEd> spot on pygi :)
[11:09] <RichEd> ahhhhh
[11:10] <RichEd> i must be getting ready for bed ... getting close to pumpkin time ...
[11:10] <pygi> enjoy RichEd 
[11:11] <RichEd> thanks & g'night
[11:11] <pygi> night