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mhb | I think I'm going to go to sleep early today :o) Goodnight | 12:35 |
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Riddell | toma: ping | 02:15 |
freeflying | morning all :) | 02:18 |
Riddell | morning freeflying | 02:19 |
freeflying | Riddell: hi :) | 02:19 |
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imbrandon | moins freeflying | 02:27 |
imbrandon | and Riddell ;) | 02:27 |
freeflying | imbrandon: hi | 02:28 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 03:20 |
Riddell | anyone want to package the new kwin-style-crystal? | 03:32 |
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Riddell | kde-apps.org if you do, I'm off to sleep :) | 03:33 |
bddebian | Gnight Riddell | 03:36 |
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DaSkreech | nixternal: Yo | 05:57 |
nixternal | yo yo yo | 05:58 |
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freeflying | has anyone used dak(debian archive kit/? | 08:28 |
uniq | i use mini-dinstall :) | 08:34 |
uniq | dak has always been overkill for my needs. | 08:34 |
freeflying | uniq: how about mini-dinstall | 08:35 |
uniq | mini-dinstall is OK. not very advanced though. | 08:36 |
uniq | easy to setup and use. | 08:36 |
uniq | did you look at 'debarchiver' ? | 08:37 |
freeflying | uniq: I nned a auto-archive | 08:37 |
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uniq | auto-archive? - i think all the tools we're talking about expects you to upload packages into a incoming directory, and then the tool is run from cron and moves the files into it's place in the archive directory structure. | 08:39 |
freeflying | also the source shall be build in at least on arch | 08:39 |
uniq | so.. all you have to do is to upload things to a incoming directory.. and whatever archive manager you choose, you can have it run periodically. | 08:39 |
uniq | ahh.. | 08:39 |
uniq | you want a buildd too. | 08:39 |
freeflying | yep | 08:40 |
uniq | then i would suggest http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/setting-up and http://kmuto.jp/open.cgi?buildd | 08:42 |
freeflying | thanks | 08:43 |
uniq | no problem. Have to go to work. see you. | 08:43 |
freeflying | bye | 08:43 |
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RichJ | anybody have display issues at all with edgy? | 09:06 |
RichJ | http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/screen.png | 09:10 |
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abattoir | RichJ: upto-date edgy? | 09:17 |
RichJ | yes | 09:17 |
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RichJ | well, i guess not, i just did apt-get update and found updates | 09:19 |
RichJ | hmm..adept notifier didn't tell me until i did that either | 09:19 |
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RichJ | !pastebin | 09:25 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) | 09:25 |
RichJ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18989 | 09:27 |
RichJ | any ideas? | 09:27 |
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RichJ | one good thing about irssi, you don't need Xwindows | 09:47 |
RichJ | well, that upgraded killed ATI drivers | 09:48 |
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RichJ | ABI error (0)..XInput | 10:31 |
RichJ | then something about ati not matching something | 10:31 |
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seaLne | are the 354 packages safe enough to use on my work machine? | 11:08 |
hungerW | seaLne: If you do not mind the occaisional arts-crash-popup. | 11:08 |
hungerW | seaLne: So far I have not noticed any major regression apart from that. | 11:09 |
seaLne | weird: | 11:09 |
seaLne | Calculating upgrade...Failed | 11:09 |
seaLne | The following packages have unmet dependencies. | 11:09 |
seaLne | openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.3) but 2.0.3-3ubuntu3 is to be installed | 11:09 |
seaLne | openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.3) but 2.0.3-3ubuntu3 is to be installed | 11:09 |
seaLne | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | 11:09 |
seaLne | not sure why i had -za anyway | 11:14 |
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seaLne | bah my fonts all changed size again | 11:40 |
seaLne | hmm 75dpi | 11:48 |
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seaLne | what resolution do other people have? | 11:55 |
haggai | seaLne: I guess you get those conflicts because those openoffice.org-l10n-* packages are for a previous OOo version, and need to be upgraded together with the core OOo packages | 11:56 |
seaLne | yeah probably | 11:57 |
haggai | seaLne: which tool did you use to start the upgrade? | 11:57 |
seaLne | apt-get dist-upgrade | 11:57 |
seaLne | i removed those 2 but still can't get OOo to upgrade | 11:57 |
Riddell | seaLne: do you have the latest dpkg? | 11:58 |
haggai | oh, odd. What happens if you 'apt-get install openoffice.org-core' ? | 11:58 |
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Riddell | hi haggai | 11:58 |
Riddell | I was wonding if doko was using the new Breaks: field | 11:58 |
haggai | Riddell: how did LUGradio go? I was plannig on going but we've been pretty busy with our new baby | 11:58 |
Riddell | oh, congratulations | 11:59 |
Riddell | it went well, lots of geeks including lots of kubuntu users | 11:59 |
seaLne | haggai: http://pastebin.ca/102099 | 11:59 |
haggai | Riddell: thanks | 11:59 |
haggai | doko says he hasn't used Breaks at all | 12:00 |
haggai | seaLne: that's a bug in the packaging | 12:01 |
seaLne | yeah | 12:01 |
seaLne | known? | 12:01 |
haggai | dunno yet. It's the first I've seen of it | 12:01 |
haggai | a file conflict will always be a bug, though | 12:01 |
abattoir | X is broken for anyone after the latest edgy updates? | 12:02 |
seaLne | abattoir: my fonts are small if that counts | 12:02 |
abattoir | seaLne: did you reboot after the update? | 12:03 |
seaLne | restarted X | 12:03 |
abattoir | oh ok :) | 12:03 |
abattoir | it fails to load the video module.. at least for me | 12:03 |
abattoir | nixternal complained of something similar | 12:03 |
seaLne | i try to avoid reboots as they involve me kicking and swearing at my machine to get it t turn on properly :) | 12:04 |
abattoir | :P | 12:04 |
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haggai | black: 11:06 < doko> ohh, nice. well, just remove the help for now | 12:07 |
haggai | no not black | 12:07 |
haggai | seaLne: ^ | 12:07 |
haggai | seaLne: or you could use dpkg --force-overwrite | 12:08 |
seaLne | yeah, i'll just ignore it just now | 12:08 |
seaLne | bah abattoir has gone i was about to say that i didn't actually have the latest xorg and that now i only have one head and missing fonts/text in dialogs | 12:10 |
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_Sime | Riddell: I got a fair chunk of the new syssettings structure implemented last night. I like it. | 12:34 |
Riddell | wow, you rock _Sime :) | 12:36 |
Riddell | got any screenshots? | 12:37 |
_Sime | Riddell: it is not that far yet. | 12:40 |
_Sime | Riddell: there is still a lot to do. ...like hacking the s-s C++ code. | 12:40 |
_Sime | Riddell: I've just done some of the structure. | 12:40 |
_Sime | Riddell: there are also a number of label changes that need to be done. | 12:40 |
_Sime | Riddell: I'm not sure if we should change the labels (read: *.desktop files) or copy the *.desktop files and then modify them. | 12:41 |
_Sime | Riddell: "User account" becomes "My account" or something. | 12:41 |
Riddell | patching .desktop files is a pain, and should be avoided if possible | 12:45 |
_Sime | ok, so I should just copy the *.desktop files taht I need and rename/edit them, and try to keep them out of the normal kcontrol? | 12:47 |
Riddell | yeah, I'd say so | 12:54 |
_Sime | keeping them out of kcontrol should not be too hard. | 12:54 |
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seaLne | weird its just kde programs that i have lost all text in | 01:13 |
Riddell | erk | 01:17 |
seaLne | fine with 354 until i restarted with the latest xorg | 01:23 |
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mornfall | seaLne: nvidia crap? | 02:10 |
mornfall | xorg 7.1 and nvidia binary drivers don't work together | 02:11 |
seaLne | nvidia is working (with no fonts) random pci isn't at all | 02:11 |
seaLne | mornfall: thanks i'll prod about and see if that is the problem | 02:12 |
mornfall | well, no fonts is a fairly fatal flaw in my world :) | 02:12 |
seaLne | yeah :) | 02:12 |
mornfall | you will have to go beg nvidia for support, i guess | 02:13 |
mornfall | if you want any | 02:13 |
mornfall | intel works fine, as usual ;-) *hides* | 02:13 |
mornfall | (even with aiglx) | 02:14 |
seaLne | can you actually buy intel cards as apposed to onboard? | 02:18 |
mornfall | no | 02:18 |
seaLne | yeah thats what i thought :( | 02:18 |
mornfall | well, i don't think you can, anyway | 02:18 |
seaLne | which is the binary nvidia and which is the non one? nvidia == propriatory, nv == free? | 02:22 |
mornfall | yes | 02:23 |
seaLne | nv dosen't work atall | 02:23 |
mornfall | do you have right version of that? | 02:23 |
mornfall | from 7.1 | 02:23 |
mornfall | and what card | 02:23 |
seaLne | its rebooting, gimmie a min | 02:24 |
seaLne | gah the machine won't turn on now i give up, lunch time | 02:25 |
mornfall | i'm wondering what are ubuntu people smoking to ship binary nvidia driver | 02:25 |
mornfall | seaLne: enjoy lunch | 02:25 |
seaLne | sabdfl says its a compromise | 02:25 |
seaLne | and they are done in a sneaky way, to not be distributing them | 02:26 |
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Riddell | toma: could you synk p.k.nl? | 02:44 |
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Hobbsee | hi all! i'm back! :D | 02:53 |
pygi | wb Hobbsee (autojoin !!! :P) | 03:03 |
Hobbsee | hi pygi! | 03:04 |
Hobbsee | psst... Riddell... you around? | 03:09 |
Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 03:14 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: how's kde 3.5.4 doing? | 03:14 |
Riddell | happily compiling away | 03:14 |
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Riddell | woo! | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: hehe, so it's not finished yet. | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | :D | 03:15 |
Riddell | edgy packages for testing if you're up for it | 03:15 |
Riddell | well, dunno if your bandwidth will be up for it | 03:15 |
Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde354/ main ./ | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: tomorrow... :P | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | okay | 03:15 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: first stop kubuntu, then ubuntu, then the world. how's that sound to you? | 03:17 |
Riddell | I'm just stopping at Kubuntu, I don't need anything else :) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: ahh...so you want me to take over kubuntu? | 03:17 |
jjesse | morning Hobbsee | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | hi jjesse! | 03:18 |
Riddell | oh, the wiki ssl got fixed | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: YAY!!!!! | 03:19 |
jjesse | so no more prompts? | 03:19 |
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Riddell | thought that would make you happy | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: it does, it does :D | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: holy sugar it even works! | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: are there supposed to be many changes there yet? | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | looks to be only kaffeine based stuff. | 03:25 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: changes where? | 03:33 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: sorry, kde 3.5.4 stuff - seems that there are only updates for kaffeine, kde-guidance, etc. | 03:33 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: I think I should be constitutional monarch and you can be the First Minister who wields the real power | 03:33 |
Riddell | 3.5.4 isn't uploaded yet | 03:33 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: hehehe. so you're the one that all the bugs get assigned to? | 03:33 |
Riddell | we need testers, then if it's not broken we need to ask for UVF exception | 03:33 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, of course. i added the extra repo, then tried. i'm just thinking that there's not much there | 03:34 |
Riddell | there's a whole new KDE there | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | ah, repo didnt go in properly. or something. | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde354/dists/main/.//binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | Reading package lists... Done | 03:35 |
Riddell | try deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde354/ ./ | 03:35 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: whee! that looks better! | 03:38 |
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Hobbsee | Current Usage: 8875.80 MB | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | hmmm.... | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | HAH! there's lots less bandwith used when i'm not here... | 03:40 |
Riddell | actually slug is on tonight, in Glasgow | 03:41 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: uh, what's your slug? | 03:41 |
Riddell | the blasphemously titled Scottish LUG | 03:42 |
Riddell | the founders felt they had to get one up on Edinburgh LUG | 03:42 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: ahhh...right. | 03:43 |
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seaLne | scotlug was formed before edlug | 03:46 |
seaLne | at the time it was setup there were hardly any lugs | 03:46 |
Riddell | clearly they felt people would travel from Kirkcudbright and Thurso just to be at ScotLUG :) | 03:47 |
Hobbsee | heh | 03:50 |
seaLne | we have had people come from dundee | 03:52 |
Riddell | that's only because I stopped organising Dundee LUG | 03:53 |
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seaLne | and glint | 03:53 |
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bddebian | Hello | 03:59 |
Hobbsee | hi bddebian! | 04:00 |
seaLne | i think i prefer the spinning gear in the kde logo that konq in debian has | 04:10 |
Riddell | that's the KDE default | 04:11 |
Riddell | but I like being able to recognise kubuntu in screenshots | 04:11 |
kwwii | is the wiki down? | 04:12 |
kwwii | forget that, it loaded (took 5 minutes though) | 04:13 |
pygi | :P | 04:15 |
kwwii | Riddell: someone worked on a new throbber...can think who right now though | 04:16 |
kwwii | basically it would be the kubuntu logo spinning but you only see part of it (ie, the top left corner) | 04:17 |
Hobbsee | hi kwwii :) | 04:18 |
kwwii | the problem with using the whole logo is that it is too big for such small sizes (it always ends up looking like it does now) | 04:18 |
kwwii | howdy Hobbsee | 04:18 |
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nixternal | (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) | 05:02 |
nixternal | that is my xserver-xorg error after edgy updates | 05:02 |
Hobbsee | oops. | 05:02 |
abattoir | nixternal: i get that too :) | 05:02 |
nixternal | ATI rage 2 mobile piece of junk lappy ;) | 05:02 |
nixternal | ahh, so im not the only one ;) | 05:02 |
abattoir | nixternal: i guess its a problem w/ X | 05:02 |
nixternal | did you fix it abattoir | 05:02 |
abattoir | nixternal: nope :( | 05:03 |
nixternal | grrr | 05:03 |
Hobbsee | yeah, X broke. | 05:03 |
abattoir | nixternal: i have a SiS card and it failed to load that module | 05:03 |
nixternal | im gonna have to put dapper on this lappy..i have to use it for presentation tonight ;) | 05:03 |
abattoir | nixternal: i tried switching bat to vesa, but that didnt help either | 05:03 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: why not dual boot it? | 05:03 |
nixternal | i just tried vesa right now..same error | 05:03 |
pygi | Hobbsee, see? I do bug after all :P | 05:04 |
Hobbsee | pygi: nah... | 05:04 |
Hobbsee | pygi: i have a couple of people on my hate list - you certainly arent one. | 05:04 |
nixternal | Hobbsee: i really can't answer that one ;) i hate to reboot and what not, and this lappy i use for testing mainly...so i never dual booted it...maybe if i get a new hard drive for it today then i will | 05:04 |
nixternal | 10gb hard drive isn't much fun | 05:04 |
abattoir | nixternal: any 'buzz' around #ubuntu-devel about this? | 05:04 |
Hobbsee | sigh. i'm an idiot. | 05:05 |
abattoir | yes X in edgy is broken atm". | 05:05 |
nixternal | not that i have seen | 05:05 |
ajmitch | nixternal: xorg drivers are in the queue to be rebuilt | 05:05 |
ajmitch | just be patient :) | 05:05 |
abattoir | from #ubuntu-devel topic ^^^^^ | 05:05 |
nixternal | ajmitch: i will be patient now ;) thank you sir | 05:05 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: you use i810 driver, right? | 05:05 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: i think so, yeah. | 05:06 |
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ajmitch | or you can just apt-get source xserver-xorg-video-i810, and build it | 05:06 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: if i've have to change a upstream tarball from .tar.bz2 to .tar.gz - i dont further modify it, like to correct the folder name, do i? | 05:06 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: best not to | 05:06 |
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Hobbsee | ajmitch: right, yep, thanks | 05:07 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: how big's the driver, and when's it likely to be fixed by? | 05:07 |
ajmitch | you'll notice that dpkg-source extracts with the right directory name, no matter what | 05:07 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: ahh...right. | 05:07 |
ajmitch | driver is < 1MB, build depends may be a little larger | 05:07 |
ajmitch | ok, about 600K for the driver source alone | 05:07 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: and when is it being fixed by? | 05:08 |
ajmitch | or I've got a 127KB .deb | 05:08 |
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ajmitch | whenever the buildds are free enough to build it | 05:08 |
Hobbsee | right, so sometime overnight, hopefully. | 05:08 |
ajmitch | which could be quite awhile, with OOo | 05:08 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: if you could send me the deb, i'd appreciate it. | 05:08 |
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ajmitch | http://ajmitch.dyndns.org/debuild/pbuilder/results/xserver-xorg-video-i810/xserver-xorg-video-i810_1.5.1.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb | 05:09 |
ajmitch | it's now a version behind the current source, but that's no big deal | 05:09 |
ajmitch | it works | 05:09 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: thanks :) | 05:09 |
=== Hobbsee wonders about some ice. | ||
ajmitch | you can even turn composite on in xorg.conf & play with fancy effects | 05:10 |
Hobbsee | ooh :) | 05:12 |
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Hobbsee | seaLne: they take ages, i expect | 05:17 |
seaLne | nah very quick | 05:17 |
=== Hobbsee whinges. | ||
Hobbsee | Seveas is being nasty. | 05:18 |
seaLne | more than his reputation? | 05:18 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: he took me off the ops list :( | 05:18 |
=== Hobbsee was abusing the ops. | ||
Hobbsee | :D | 05:18 |
seaLne | you were or he thought you were? | 05:18 |
seaLne | Riddell: just to confirm my font/text problem was xorg related | 05:19 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: oh i was, no question - the ops are insane in -offtopic :P | 05:19 |
Riddell | seaLne: so it's fixed itself? | 05:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: dput'ing to revu now :) | 05:21 |
seaLne | Riddell: yeah looks fine now there is text to read :) | 05:22 |
ajmitch | seaLne: you had invisible text also? | 05:22 |
seaLne | yeah except in xterm for some reason | 05:23 |
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=== Hobbsee looks menacingly at revu. i think ajmitch broke it. | ||
pygi | ajmitch, again??! | 05:27 |
ajmitch | seaLne: I've heard blame put on various things - fontconfig, freetype or libxft2 are the most likely culprits | 05:27 |
bddebian | heh | 05:27 |
Hobbsee | pygi: yes, again. | 05:28 |
Hobbsee | oh, here we go. hey, there's an archive button now! cool! | 05:28 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: that's because you're a MOTU now | 05:29 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: oh cool. i didnt think i had access to that though :) | 05:29 |
ajmitch | what is Hobbsee complaining about this time? | 05:29 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: you, dont worry :) | 05:29 |
=== Hobbsee hugs ajmitch | ||
ajmitch | sigh | 05:29 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2799 | 05:29 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: you be careful, or i'll tickle your ribs again :P | 05:29 |
seaLne | Hobbsee: if you want to test the archive button, you could archive dcfldd | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | `oops. | 05:31 |
seaLne | that dosen't sound good | 05:31 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: it was already archived. i hit the unarchive button :P | 05:32 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: note that there's an 'unarchive' button for those oops' | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: yeah, that's the one i just hit :P | 05:32 |
ajmitch | just don't accidentally nuke stuff | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | nuke? that could be fun | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: i have the power to do that too? | 05:32 |
ajmitch | though you probably can't, if you don't see it | 05:32 |
seaLne | Hobbsee: if yur board fancy looking at kmobiletools on revu? | 05:35 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: yeah, i dont see it | 05:35 |
=== Hobbsee needs to go to bed before 3am tonight, too... | ||
Hobbsee | seaLne: that's just an upgrade, isnt it? | 05:35 |
seaLne | yeah | 05:35 |
ajmitch | seaLne: always upload to REVU with an orig.tar.gz | 05:36 |
seaLne | ajmitch: ? | 05:37 |
ajmitch | sorry, it appears that you have one, but the diff looks 'interesting' | 05:38 |
seaLne | the upstream tgz was a mess | 05:38 |
ajmitch | did the upstream tarball contain a debian/ dir? | 05:39 |
seaLne | yes | 05:39 |
ajmitch | how evil | 05:39 |
seaLne | and some .o files and a .svn dir | 05:39 |
ajmitch | have they been suitably chastised? | 05:40 |
seaLne | i asked in their irc channel and was told it didn't matter | 05:40 |
ajmitch | did you flame them in response? | 05:41 |
seaLne | i tried to justify my suggestion t fix it | 05:42 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: kwin-style-crystal uploaded thanks, you can use your elite Archive powers now | 05:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: hehe! :D | 05:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i want the other title too though - probably announced sometime soonish, so people will listen to me | 05:49 |
Hobbsee | although they already do, to some degree, which is good :) | 05:49 |
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Hobbsee | nixternal: ah yeah, that's right. then again, i dont mind this one getting out. | 05:51 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: how do we go about announcing that? | 05:52 |
Riddell | at a kubuntu meeting I guess | 05:52 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm not sure on that one - i would say at a kubuntu meeting, but not one of those is scheduled for a while. | 05:53 |
nixternal | i missed something here big time Hobbsee, as i have no clue what you are talking about | 05:53 |
nixternal | lol | 05:53 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: goign to tell mark, etc? | 05:53 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: yeah, you did | 05:53 |
nixternal | i read about archive and nuke, and your excitement ;) | 05:53 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: yeah, people wonder about why i'm excited, adn see no evidence, so it's a bit weird. | 05:54 |
nixternal | hehe | 05:54 |
bddebian | How did I know that Hobbsee would package kwin-style-crystal?? :-) | 05:59 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: because i got asked to? how'd you figure that? | 06:00 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Riddell mentioned it late last night :) | 06:00 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: ah. he only mentioned it to me in PM an hour or so ago. but i did think to check if it was in main first, instead of getting another rejected email :P | 06:01 |
bddebian | hehe | 06:02 |
pygi | Hobbsee, may I grab you for a sec pls? | 06:02 |
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Hobbsee | pygi: sure | 06:03 |
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Riddell | toma! | 06:13 |
toma | hey all | 06:13 |
Hobbsee | hi toma! | 06:13 |
Riddell | toma: could you sync people.kde.nl? | 06:14 |
Hobbsee | toma: i'm back to haunt you and everyone else! :P | 06:14 |
toma | Riddell: hm? | 06:14 |
toma | Riddell: can you make a dummy commit and see if it updates now? | 06:14 |
toma | waha 414kB/s | 06:15 |
nixternal | man i had a good one with "can you make a dummy commit"... | 06:15 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: what's that k cocoa thing that refreshes the menu, and fixes when you use sudo for a KDE gui app? whta's the command? | 06:16 |
uniq | hobbsee: kbuildsycoca | 06:17 |
Riddell | kbuildsycoca | 06:17 |
Hobbsee | ah :) | 06:17 |
Hobbsee | i knew it had soemthing to do with cocoa... | 06:17 |
Riddell | toma: doesn't seem to have | 06:18 |
Hobbsee | BUGGER! | 06:18 |
Hobbsee | oh well | 06:18 |
toma | Riddell: ok, just have a new adsl connection, so I need to dig myself a way through some iptables, takes a moment. | 06:19 |
=== Hobbsee just uploaded something that didnt actualy fix the problem. damn. | ||
sebas | Does apt-get install lame work for someone here? | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | night all | 06:25 |
sebas | lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | sebas: works fine here. | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | sebas: got some screwy repo that you're using? | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | (edgy) | 06:26 |
sebas | Dapper | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | ah | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | no idea then, without firing up my pbuilder. | 06:26 |
sebas | Hm, ok. | 06:26 |
sebas | Thx anyway. | 06:26 |
uniq | dapper... let's see. | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | and i'm going to bed. | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | night all... | 06:26 |
uniq | sebas: works. | 06:27 |
sebas | uniq: Ok, then it's me :-) | 06:27 |
uniq | 3.96.1-1 0 | 06:27 |
uniq | 500 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages | 06:27 |
uniq | there it is. | 06:27 |
toma | Riddell: olivier seems to be there | 06:33 |
toma | Riddell: something specific wrong? | 06:34 |
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toma | where is hobbsee now? | 06:34 |
toma | Riddell: i see the foo, so i think you triggered it correctly | 06:35 |
Riddell | rocking, it's working now | 06:38 |
Riddell | thanks toma | 06:38 |
toma | ok, i just rebooted my computer, i can not imagen that solved this issue ;-) | 06:39 |
Riddell | is kde.nl hosted on your computer? | 06:40 |
seaLne | anyone tried using k3b/cdrecord recently on edgy? i can't burn cds | 06:40 |
uniq | sealne: i can try.. hang on. | 06:42 |
seaLne | it seems to be at the burning stage | 06:42 |
seaLne | ah: Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? | 06:44 |
uniq | hmm. | 06:44 |
uniq | i'll try to delete a cdrw. | 06:44 |
seaLne | ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord* | 06:45 |
uniq | k3b prompts me saying i should run k3bsetup to make cdrecord SUID root. | 06:45 |
uniq | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-06-29 02:03 /usr/bin/cdrecord | 06:46 |
uniq | before k3bsetup. | 06:46 |
omeow | My computer can't seem to recover dpms'd monitors. | 06:46 |
omeow | Anyone else having that problem on edgy? | 06:46 |
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uniq | sealne: k3bsetup doesn't do the job of setting SUID very well here.. | 06:49 |
seaLne | interesting, k3bsetup fails like that on debian aswell, least it wasn't specifically me :) | 06:50 |
seaLne | k3bsetup wasn't something i thought to test :( | 06:51 |
seaLne | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-root/napier-01.cis.strath.ac.uk-7bad-44c8eeb2) | 06:51 |
seaLne | ^ anyone seen that before? | 06:52 |
seaLne | could it be related? | 06:52 |
uniq | i don't think so. | 06:55 |
uniq | is there a 'Autorun at logout'-function in KDE? | 06:57 |
toma | a what? | 07:25 |
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omeow | Are you talking about xserver-input? | 09:32 |
omeow | I always have to downgrade to 1.0.0.5 in order to keep my mouse working. | 09:32 |
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mhb | hi all | 09:58 |
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uniq | toma: something like the Autostart folder.. for logouts, not logins. | 10:15 |
Tm_T | mooh | 10:16 |
uniq | hi tm_t. | 10:16 |
Tm_T | is new xorg already in edgy? or should I expect xorg b0rkage if I move to edgy next week | 10:17 |
pygi | Tm_T, X is currently broken | 10:18 |
Tm_T | excellent | 10:18 |
Tm_T | ;) | 10:18 |
pygi | not so excellent, but oh well :P | 10:18 |
Tm_T | it is, that means it should be ok in few weeks | 10:19 |
pygi | ah :) | 10:19 |
crimsun | it's actually working just fine. | 10:28 |
crimsun | new xserver-xorg-video-* are in the archive now | 10:28 |
Tm_T | heh | 10:29 |
uniq | my x is working.. dist-upgraded yesterday. | 10:29 |
Tm_T | crimsun: what version of xorg it is? 7.1? | 10:29 |
crimsun | a bit newer. | 10:29 |
Tm_T | oh | 10:29 |
crimsun | 7.1.1 according to /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 10:29 |
Tm_T | sounds good | 10:30 |
Tm_T | I might dist-upgrade next week | 10:30 |
Tm_T | I need something to mess with after I failed to build kdelibs in windows | 10:31 |
Tm_T | though I fail in linux aswell =) | 10:31 |
Tm_T | KDE4 <3 | 10:32 |
omeow | What's your issue with xorg, Tm_T? | 10:32 |
Tm_T | omeow: no issues, just don't wan't to upgrade in the middle of the borkage | 10:33 |
omeow | Oh. | 10:33 |
omeow | Well, the thing I mentioned above is only because of my mouse. Don't know of anything else that got broken. | 10:33 |
omeow | I have to use the older version, because otherwise I can't use all my mouse buttons. | 10:33 |
Tm_T | heh | 10:33 |
omeow | The new version is broken according to some guide on ubuntu forums. | 10:33 |
Tm_T | all? three is enough ;) | 10:33 |
omeow | i use a couple extra. | 10:33 |
Tm_T | I love to have the middle button under my thumb like now | 10:34 |
omeow | I have a button above and underneath my scrollwheel. | 10:34 |
omeow | I bound them to home and end, so I can skip a page directly to the end or beginning. | 10:35 |
Tm_T | oh | 10:35 |
Tm_T | sounds useful | 10:35 |
omeow | It was such a pain to set up. | 10:35 |
Tm_T | hehe | 10:36 |
Tm_T | so it feels better when it success ;) | 10:36 |
omeow | It made me feel depressed. | 10:36 |
Tm_T | d'oh | 10:36 |
omeow | Pitty that all other users will have to go through the trouble too. | 10:36 |
Tm_T | true | 10:37 |
omeow | It's not exactly userfriendly. And there's no tool for it. | 10:37 |
_Sime | Riddell: ping | 10:40 |
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nixternal | whats up with the fonts? | 10:58 |
nixternal | lol...they got small, but i kind of like it since this lappy is only 800x600 | 10:58 |
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Riddell | _Sime: hi | 11:09 |
_Sime | Riddell: hi, I downloaded the Freespire beta 2 disk. | 11:10 |
Riddell | ooh? | 11:10 |
_Sime | Riddell: it is a live CD (as well) and is worth having a look at. | 11:10 |
Riddell | 1 CD? | 11:10 |
Riddell | install? | 11:10 |
_Sime | Riddell: 1 cd | 11:10 |
_Sime | Riddell: +install, if you want that. | 11:10 |
_Sime | Riddell: they have some other config tools which I haven't seen before. | 11:11 |
Riddell | to do what? | 11:11 |
_Sime | network configuration. | 11:13 |
_Sime | they are also using Jack | 11:13 |
_Sime | (Arts has a jack out plugin I think) | 11:13 |
Riddell | ubuntu doesn't want jack in main so we don't compile for that | 11:14 |
nixternal | adept is broken again in edgy btw | 11:14 |
pygi | nixternal, ah | 11:15 |
nixternal | my thoughts exactly ;) | 11:16 |
mornfall | what's up with it | 11:22 |
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kwwii | @Berlin | 11:47 |
kwwii | hehe, oops | 11:47 |
kwwii | sorry | 11:47 |
pygi | kwwii, :P | 11:48 |
kwwii | so how does that work again? | 11:50 |
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pygi | well, what do you new kwwii ? | 11:50 |
kwwii | the time, I mean | 11:50 |
kwwii | it was something with @ and a city name :-) | 11:51 |
kwwii | god, I sound like a newbie | 11:51 |
kwwii | @ Berlin | 11:51 |
kwwii | or such | 11:51 |
kwwii | oh well | 11:51 |
sebas | It's 23.51, and decent computers have a working clock, dude. :-) | 11:52 |
sebas | 52 even | 11:52 |
kwwii | UTC? | 11:53 |
pygi | nop | 11:53 |
Ignite_ | will there be a network installation image for edgy? (if this has already been done then ignore me :P) | 11:54 |
pygi | 21:53 UTC I would say | 11:54 |
kwwii | and that fscks me up every time | 11:54 |
nixternal | sorry mornfall...it is the database error | 11:54 |
sebas | No, in Berlin :-) | 11:54 |
kwwii | Riddell: is the dev meeting at 23:00 UTC or ETC (as it says on the wiki)? | 11:54 |
sebas | pygi seems also right, of course. | 11:54 |
nixternal | im in a rush as i am giving an Ubuntu presentation tonight for the Chicago LoCo | 11:54 |
pygi | kwwii, UTC I would say | 11:54 |
kwwii | yeah, most meeting times are posted as UTC until now, but the fridge says Etc | 11:55 |
pygi | sebas, :) | 11:55 |
pygi | kwwii, fridge lies :P | 11:55 |
kwwii | pygi: btw, I have the icons almost finished | 11:56 |
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kwwii | I adapted a few of the oxygen icons to make ones specifically for bzr | 11:56 |
pygi | thanks :) | 11:57 |
kwwii | I will send you them once I am happy with 'em :-) | 11:57 |
pygi | uh, that means never ! :P | 11:57 |
kwwii | :p | 11:57 |
kwwii | no, no, it means one day before forever | 11:58 |
Ignite_ | is bzr a new package format? i think i remember reading something with "bzr" in something (k)ubuntu related earlier today | 11:58 |
pygi | nop, it's not a new package format :P | 11:59 |
pygi | !info bzr | 11:59 |
ubotu | bzr: bazaar-ng, the next-generation distributed version control system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 655 kB, installed size 3636 kB | 11:59 |
kwwii | Ignite_: it is a repository system, version control | 11:59 |
kwwii | hehe, yeah | 11:59 |
Ignite_ | sounds fun | 11:59 |
pygi | kwwii, :P | 11:59 |
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pygi | Ignite_, http://bazaar-vcs.org/ | 12:00 |
pygi | a little you can find here, other you can ask me | 12:00 |
Ignite_ | thanks, i'm there now :P | 12:00 |
pygi | I'll be off to sleep soon tho, but tommorow is a good day :P | 12:00 |
pygi | (1 minute 'till tommorow :P) | 12:00 |
Ignite_ | hehe | 12:01 |
kwwii | hehe | 12:01 |
kwwii | damn, I have to wait another hour to go to bed | 12:01 |
kwwii | well, more than that | 12:01 |
pygi | kwwii, eh, why? | 12:01 |
pygi | meeting? | 12:01 |
kwwii | yepp | 12:01 |
kwwii | did someone implement the new bazaar website design already? | 12:02 |
pygi | kwwii, I think this is the new one :) | 12:03 |
kwwii | cool | 12:03 |
pygi | right, your meeting starts in an hour | 12:03 |
pygi | well, almost...57 minutes :) | 12:03 |
kwwii | the "Etc" on the wiki is what messed me up | 12:04 |
pygi | kwwii, care to explain me one thing? | 12:04 |
pygi | I registered a domain,and it is valid until 1.1.1970??? | 12:04 |
pygi | I mean wth?? | 12:04 |
kwwii | huh? | 12:05 |
kwwii | that sounds fscked up | 12:05 |
kwwii | you have to register your domain and then pay every year | 12:05 |
pygi | I know that, but notice the year pls :) | 12:06 |
pygi | It's in the past !!! | 12:06 |
kwwii | yeah, sure | 12:06 |
kwwii | it is almost like a joke | 12:06 |
kwwii | or a really bad program | 12:06 |
pygi | that might be the Y2k36 bug :P | 12:06 |
kwwii | hehe, doubt it | 12:06 |
kwwii | by now | 12:06 |
kwwii | kinda late for that | 12:06 |
pygi | now the domain is free !!! I mean wth? | 12:06 |
pygi | late for Y2k36 bug? nah, that is a new one :P | 12:07 |
pygi | it'll happen in 2036 :) | 12:07 |
nixternal | arg, i can't install gnupg-agen cuz of libpth2 is not installable | 12:07 |
toma | 1/1/1970 is called epoch. When you donot know the expire date and you set the field to 0 a conversion to a human readable format results in 1/1/1970. | 12:07 |
kwwii | lol | 12:08 |
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