=== neoxan [n=neoxan@unaffiliated/neoxan] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@64.213.227.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] I think I'm going to go to sleep early today :o) Goodnight === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-202-185.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-205-134.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] toma: ping [02:18] morning all :) [02:19] morning freeflying [02:19] Riddell: hi :) === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] moins freeflying [02:27] and Riddell ;) [02:28] imbrandon: hi === pygi__ [n=pygi@89-172-206-108.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:20] Howdy [03:32] anyone want to package the new kwin-style-crystal? === bddebian hides [03:33] kde-apps.org if you do, I'm off to sleep :) [03:36] Gnight Riddell === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-196-74.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:57] nixternal: Yo [05:58] yo yo yo === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.122] has joined #kubuntu-devel === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.39.233] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === driveler [n=drivel@218.28.177.254] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-196-74.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:28] has anyone used dak(debian archive kit/? [08:34] i use mini-dinstall :) [08:34] dak has always been overkill for my needs. [08:35] uniq: how about mini-dinstall [08:36] mini-dinstall is OK. not very advanced though. [08:36] easy to setup and use. [08:37] did you look at 'debarchiver' ? [08:37] uniq: I nned a auto-archive === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] auto-archive? - i think all the tools we're talking about expects you to upload packages into a incoming directory, and then the tool is run from cron and moves the files into it's place in the archive directory structure. [08:39] also the source shall be build in at least on arch [08:39] so.. all you have to do is to upload things to a incoming directory.. and whatever archive manager you choose, you can have it run periodically. [08:39] ahh.. [08:39] you want a buildd too. [08:40] yep [08:42] then i would suggest http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/setting-up and http://kmuto.jp/open.cgi?buildd [08:43] thanks [08:43] no problem. Have to go to work. see you. [08:43] bye === Oculus [n=oculus@pD9E286E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6042C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:06] anybody have display issues at all with edgy? [09:10] http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/screen.png === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane___ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:17] RichJ: upto-date edgy? [09:17] yes === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:19] well, i guess not, i just did apt-get update and found updates [09:19] hmm..adept notifier didn't tell me until i did that either === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:25] !pastebin [09:25] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) [09:27] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18989 [09:27] any ideas? === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:47] one good thing about irssi, you don't need Xwindows [09:48] well, that upgraded killed ATI drivers === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:31] ABI error (0)..XInput [10:31] then something about ati not matching something === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:08] are the 354 packages safe enough to use on my work machine? [11:08] seaLne: If you do not mind the occaisional arts-crash-popup. [11:09] seaLne: So far I have not noticed any major regression apart from that. [11:09] weird: [11:09] Calculating upgrade...Failed [11:09] The following packages have unmet dependencies. [11:09] openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.3) but 2.0.3-3ubuntu3 is to be installed [11:09] openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.3) but 2.0.3-3ubuntu3 is to be installed [11:09] E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. [11:14] not sure why i had -za anyway === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-193-9.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:40] bah my fonts all changed size again [11:48] hmm 75dpi === My8os [n=My8os@ppp140-217.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=ani@59.92.82.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:55] what resolution do other people have? [11:56] seaLne: I guess you get those conflicts because those openoffice.org-l10n-* packages are for a previous OOo version, and need to be upgraded together with the core OOo packages [11:57] yeah probably [11:57] seaLne: which tool did you use to start the upgrade? [11:57] apt-get dist-upgrade [11:57] i removed those 2 but still can't get OOo to upgrade [11:58] seaLne: do you have the latest dpkg? [11:58] oh, odd. What happens if you 'apt-get install openoffice.org-core' ? === haggai waves to Riddell [11:58] hi haggai [11:58] I was wonding if doko was using the new Breaks: field [11:58] Riddell: how did LUGradio go? I was plannig on going but we've been pretty busy with our new baby [11:59] oh, congratulations [11:59] it went well, lots of geeks including lots of kubuntu users [11:59] haggai: http://pastebin.ca/102099 [11:59] Riddell: thanks [12:00] doko says he hasn't used Breaks at all [12:01] seaLne: that's a bug in the packaging [12:01] yeah [12:01] known? [12:01] dunno yet. It's the first I've seen of it [12:01] a file conflict will always be a bug, though [12:02] X is broken for anyone after the latest edgy updates? [12:02] abattoir: my fonts are small if that counts [12:03] seaLne: did you reboot after the update? [12:03] restarted X [12:03] oh ok :) [12:03] it fails to load the video module.. at least for me [12:03] nixternal complained of something similar [12:04] i try to avoid reboots as they involve me kicking and swearing at my machine to get it t turn on properly :) [12:04] :P === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:07] black: 11:06 < doko> ohh, nice. well, just remove the help for now [12:07] no not black [12:07] seaLne: ^ [12:08] seaLne: or you could use dpkg --force-overwrite [12:08] yeah, i'll just ignore it just now [12:10] bah abattoir has gone i was about to say that i didn't actually have the latest xorg and that now i only have one head and missing fonts/text in dialogs === abattoir [n=ani@59.92.51.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:34] <_Sime> Riddell: I got a fair chunk of the new syssettings structure implemented last night. I like it. [12:36] wow, you rock _Sime :) [12:37] got any screenshots? [12:40] <_Sime> Riddell: it is not that far yet. [12:40] <_Sime> Riddell: there is still a lot to do. ...like hacking the s-s C++ code. [12:40] <_Sime> Riddell: I've just done some of the structure. [12:40] <_Sime> Riddell: there are also a number of label changes that need to be done. [12:41] <_Sime> Riddell: I'm not sure if we should change the labels (read: *.desktop files) or copy the *.desktop files and then modify them. [12:41] <_Sime> Riddell: "User account" becomes "My account" or something. [12:45] patching .desktop files is a pain, and should be avoided if possible [12:47] <_Sime> ok, so I should just copy the *.desktop files taht I need and rename/edit them, and try to keep them out of the normal kcontrol? [12:54] yeah, I'd say so [12:54] <_Sime> keeping them out of kcontrol should not be too hard. === _Sime is now known as _Sime|AFK [01:13] weird its just kde programs that i have lost all text in [01:17] erk [01:23] fine with 354 until i restarted with the latest xorg === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=martin@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.34.63] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] seaLne: nvidia crap? [02:11] xorg 7.1 and nvidia binary drivers don't work together [02:11] nvidia is working (with no fonts) random pci isn't at all [02:12] mornfall: thanks i'll prod about and see if that is the problem [02:12] well, no fonts is a fairly fatal flaw in my world :) [02:12] yeah :) [02:13] you will have to go beg nvidia for support, i guess [02:13] if you want any [02:13] intel works fine, as usual ;-) *hides* [02:14] (even with aiglx) [02:18] can you actually buy intel cards as apposed to onboard? [02:18] no [02:18] yeah thats what i thought :( [02:18] well, i don't think you can, anyway [02:22] which is the binary nvidia and which is the non one? nvidia == propriatory, nv == free? [02:23] yes [02:23] nv dosen't work atall [02:23] do you have right version of that? [02:23] from 7.1 [02:23] and what card [02:24] its rebooting, gimmie a min [02:25] gah the machine won't turn on now i give up, lunch time [02:25] i'm wondering what are ubuntu people smoking to ship binary nvidia driver [02:25] seaLne: enjoy lunch [02:25] sabdfl says its a compromise [02:26] and they are done in a sneaky way, to not be distributing them === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] toma: could you synk p.k.nl? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] hi all! i'm back! :D [03:03] wb Hobbsee (autojoin !!! :P) [03:04] hi pygi! [03:09] psst... Riddell... you around? [03:14] hi Hobbsee [03:14] Riddell: how's kde 3.5.4 doing? [03:14] happily compiling away === Hobbsee is back, not feeling like a stretched piece of chewing gum, and ready to take over the world again! [03:15] woo! [03:15] Riddell: hehe, so it's not finished yet. [03:15] :D [03:15] edgy packages for testing if you're up for it [03:15] well, dunno if your bandwidth will be up for it [03:15] deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde354/ main ./ [03:15] Riddell: tomorrow... :P [03:15] okay === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] Riddell: first stop kubuntu, then ubuntu, then the world. how's that sound to you? [03:17] I'm just stopping at Kubuntu, I don't need anything else :) [03:17] Riddell: ahh...so you want me to take over kubuntu? [03:17] morning Hobbsee [03:18] hi jjesse! [03:18] oh, the wiki ssl got fixed [03:19] Riddell: YAY!!!!! [03:19] so no more prompts? === Hobbsee hugs Riddell and dances around in circles. [03:19] thought that would make you happy [03:20] Riddell: it does, it does :D [03:20] Riddell: holy sugar it even works! [03:25] Riddell: are there supposed to be many changes there yet? [03:25] looks to be only kaffeine based stuff. === Hobbsee notes that Riddell didnt answer the question about whether he wanted me to take over the organisation side of kubuntu. interesting. === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wonders why we have -za translations included in the -en-gb stuff. [03:33] Hobbsee: changes where? [03:33] Riddell: sorry, kde 3.5.4 stuff - seems that there are only updates for kaffeine, kde-guidance, etc. [03:33] Hobbsee: I think I should be constitutional monarch and you can be the First Minister who wields the real power [03:33] 3.5.4 isn't uploaded yet [03:33] Riddell: hehehe. so you're the one that all the bugs get assigned to? [03:33] we need testers, then if it's not broken we need to ask for UVF exception [03:34] Riddell: yeah, of course. i added the extra repo, then tried. i'm just thinking that there's not much there [03:35] there's a whole new KDE there [03:35] ah, repo didnt go in properly. or something. [03:35] Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde354/dists/main/.//binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [03:35] Reading package lists... Done [03:35] try deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde354/ ./ === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] Riddell: whee! that looks better! === jjesse cheers on seeing the ssl on the wiki fixed === Hobbsee contemplates the fact that she could go and get drunk at SLUG tomorrow night. [03:39] Current Usage: 8875.80 MB [03:39] hmmm.... [03:40] HAH! there's lots less bandwith used when i'm not here... [03:41] actually slug is on tonight, in Glasgow [03:41] Riddell: uh, what's your slug? [03:42] the blasphemously titled Scottish LUG [03:42] the founders felt they had to get one up on Edinburgh LUG [03:43] Riddell: ahhh...right. === Hobbsee notes that the mesa is less borked, from last update. [03:46] scotlug was formed before edlug [03:46] at the time it was setup there were hardly any lugs [03:47] clearly they felt people would travel from Kirkcudbright and Thurso just to be at ScotLUG :) [03:50] heh [03:52] we have had people come from dundee [03:53] that's only because I stopped organising Dundee LUG === seaLne wishes there was a nv xorg module compiled so he could use his computer [03:53] and glint === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-238-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] Hello [04:00] hi bddebian! [04:10] i think i prefer the spinning gear in the kde logo that konq in debian has [04:11] that's the KDE default [04:11] but I like being able to recognise kubuntu in screenshots [04:12] is the wiki down? [04:13] forget that, it loaded (took 5 minutes though) [04:15] :P [04:16] Riddell: someone worked on a new throbber...can think who right now though [04:17] basically it would be the kubuntu logo spinning but you only see part of it (ie, the top left corner) [04:18] hi kwwii :) [04:18] the problem with using the whole logo is that it is too big for such small sizes (it always ends up looking like it does now) [04:18] howdy Hobbsee === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.47.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:02] (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) [05:02] that is my xserver-xorg error after edgy updates [05:02] oops. [05:02] nixternal: i get that too :) [05:02] ATI rage 2 mobile piece of junk lappy ;) [05:02] ahh, so im not the only one ;) [05:02] nixternal: i guess its a problem w/ X [05:02] did you fix it abattoir [05:03] nixternal: nope :( [05:03] grrr [05:03] yeah, X broke. [05:03] nixternal: i have a SiS card and it failed to load that module [05:03] im gonna have to put dapper on this lappy..i have to use it for presentation tonight ;) [05:03] nixternal: i tried switching bat to vesa, but that didnt help either [05:03] nixternal: why not dual boot it? [05:03] i just tried vesa right now..same error [05:04] Hobbsee, see? I do bug after all :P [05:04] pygi: nah... [05:04] pygi: i have a couple of people on my hate list - you certainly arent one. [05:04] Hobbsee: i really can't answer that one ;) i hate to reboot and what not, and this lappy i use for testing mainly...so i never dual booted it...maybe if i get a new hard drive for it today then i will [05:04] 10gb hard drive isn't much fun [05:04] nixternal: any 'buzz' around #ubuntu-devel about this? [05:05] sigh. i'm an idiot. [05:05] yes X in edgy is broken atm". [05:05] not that i have seen [05:05] nixternal: xorg drivers are in the queue to be rebuilt [05:05] just be patient :) [05:05] from #ubuntu-devel topic ^^^^^ [05:05] ajmitch: i will be patient now ;) thank you sir [05:05] Hobbsee: you use i810 driver, right? [05:06] ajmitch: i think so, yeah. === ajmitch has a rebuilt driver for that [05:06] or you can just apt-get source xserver-xorg-video-i810, and build it [05:06] ajmitch: if i've have to change a upstream tarball from .tar.bz2 to .tar.gz - i dont further modify it, like to correct the folder name, do i? [05:06] Hobbsee: best not to === Hobbsee doesnt think so. [05:07] ajmitch: right, yep, thanks [05:07] ajmitch: how big's the driver, and when's it likely to be fixed by? [05:07] you'll notice that dpkg-source extracts with the right directory name, no matter what [05:07] ajmitch: ahh...right. [05:07] driver is < 1MB, build depends may be a little larger [05:07] ok, about 600K for the driver source alone [05:08] ajmitch: and when is it being fixed by? [05:08] or I've got a 127KB .deb === Hobbsee hasnt updated edgy yet. [05:08] whenever the buildds are free enough to build it [05:08] right, so sometime overnight, hopefully. [05:08] which could be quite awhile, with OOo [05:08] ajmitch: if you could send me the deb, i'd appreciate it. === Hobbsee trusts that you havent played with it. [05:09] http://ajmitch.dyndns.org/debuild/pbuilder/results/xserver-xorg-video-i810/xserver-xorg-video-i810_1.5.1.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb [05:09] it's now a version behind the current source, but that's no big deal [05:09] it works [05:09] ajmitch: thanks :) === Hobbsee wonders about some ice. [05:10] you can even turn composite on in xorg.conf & play with fancy effects [05:12] ooh :) === seaLne wonders why he never thought to just build xorg packages rather than complaining about not being able to use his machine :) [05:17] seaLne: they take ages, i expect [05:17] nah very quick === Hobbsee whinges. [05:18] Seveas is being nasty. [05:18] more than his reputation? [05:18] seaLne: he took me off the ops list :( === Hobbsee was abusing the ops. [05:18] :D [05:18] you were or he thought you were? [05:19] Riddell: just to confirm my font/text problem was xorg related [05:19] seaLne: oh i was, no question - the ops are insane in -offtopic :P [05:20] seaLne: so it's fixed itself? [05:21] Riddell: dput'ing to revu now :) [05:22] Riddell: yeah looks fine now there is text to read :) [05:22] seaLne: you had invisible text also? [05:23] yeah except in xterm for some reason === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee looks menacingly at revu. i think ajmitch broke it. [05:27] ajmitch, again??! [05:27] seaLne: I've heard blame put on various things - fontconfig, freetype or libxft2 are the most likely culprits [05:27] heh [05:28] pygi: yes, again. [05:28] oh, here we go. hey, there's an archive button now! cool! [05:29] Hobbsee: that's because you're a MOTU now [05:29] Riddell: oh cool. i didnt think i had access to that though :) [05:29] what is Hobbsee complaining about this time? [05:29] ajmitch: you, dont worry :) === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch [05:29] sigh [05:29] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2799 [05:29] ajmitch: you be careful, or i'll tickle your ribs again :P [05:30] Hobbsee: if you want to test the archive button, you could archive dcfldd [05:31] `oops. [05:31] that dosen't sound good [05:32] seaLne: it was already archived. i hit the unarchive button :P [05:32] Hobbsee: note that there's an 'unarchive' button for those oops' [05:32] ajmitch: yeah, that's the one i just hit :P [05:32] just don't accidentally nuke stuff [05:32] hehe [05:32] nuke? that could be fun [05:32] ajmitch: i have the power to do that too? [05:32] though you probably can't, if you don't see it [05:35] Hobbsee: if yur board fancy looking at kmobiletools on revu? [05:35] ajmitch: yeah, i dont see it === Hobbsee needs to go to bed before 3am tonight, too... [05:35] seaLne: that's just an upgrade, isnt it? [05:35] yeah [05:36] seaLne: always upload to REVU with an orig.tar.gz [05:37] ajmitch: ? [05:38] sorry, it appears that you have one, but the diff looks 'interesting' [05:38] the upstream tgz was a mess [05:39] did the upstream tarball contain a debian/ dir? [05:39] yes [05:39] how evil [05:39] and some .o files and a .svn dir [05:40] have they been suitably chastised? [05:40] i asked in their irc channel and was told it didn't matter [05:41] did you flame them in response? [05:42] i tried to justify my suggestion t fix it [05:49] Hobbsee: kwin-style-crystal uploaded thanks, you can use your elite Archive powers now [05:49] Riddell: hehe! :D [05:49] Riddell: i want the other title too though - probably announced sometime soonish, so people will listen to me [05:49] although they already do, to some degree, which is good :) === nixternal plugs his ears ;) [05:51] nixternal: ah yeah, that's right. then again, i dont mind this one getting out. [05:52] Hobbsee: how do we go about announcing that? [05:52] at a kubuntu meeting I guess [05:53] Riddell: i'm not sure on that one - i would say at a kubuntu meeting, but not one of those is scheduled for a while. [05:53] i missed something here big time Hobbsee, as i have no clue what you are talking about [05:53] lol [05:53] Riddell: goign to tell mark, etc? [05:53] nixternal: yeah, you did [05:53] i read about archive and nuke, and your excitement ;) [05:54] nixternal: yeah, people wonder about why i'm excited, adn see no evidence, so it's a bit weird. [05:54] hehe [05:59] How did I know that Hobbsee would package kwin-style-crystal?? :-) [06:00] bddebian: because i got asked to? how'd you figure that? [06:00] Hobbsee: Riddell mentioned it late last night :) [06:01] bddebian: ah. he only mentioned it to me in PM an hour or so ago. but i did think to check if it was in main first, instead of getting another rejected email :P [06:02] hehe [06:02] Hobbsee, may I grab you for a sec pls? === Hobbsee is grabbed [06:03] pygi: sure === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:13] toma! [06:13] hey all [06:13] hi toma! [06:14] toma: could you sync people.kde.nl? [06:14] toma: i'm back to haunt you and everyone else! :P [06:14] Riddell: hm? [06:14] Riddell: can you make a dummy commit and see if it updates now? [06:15] waha 414kB/s [06:15] man i had a good one with "can you make a dummy commit"... === Hobbsee fixes ksudoku, and reuploads it. [06:16] Riddell: what's that k cocoa thing that refreshes the menu, and fixes when you use sudo for a KDE gui app? whta's the command? [06:17] hobbsee: kbuildsycoca [06:17] kbuildsycoca [06:17] ah :) [06:17] i knew it had soemthing to do with cocoa... [06:18] toma: doesn't seem to have [06:18] BUGGER! [06:18] oh well [06:19] Riddell: ok, just have a new adsl connection, so I need to dig myself a way through some iptables, takes a moment. === Hobbsee just uploaded something that didnt actualy fix the problem. damn. [06:25] Does apt-get install lame work for someone here? [06:25] night all [06:25] lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed [06:25] sebas: works fine here. [06:26] sebas: got some screwy repo that you're using? [06:26] (edgy) [06:26] Dapper [06:26] ah [06:26] no idea then, without firing up my pbuilder. [06:26] Hm, ok. [06:26] Thx anyway. [06:26] dapper... let's see. [06:26] and i'm going to bed. [06:26] night all... [06:27] sebas: works. [06:27] uniq: Ok, then it's me :-) [06:27] 3.96.1-1 0 [06:27] 500 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages [06:27] there it is. [06:33] Riddell: olivier seems to be there [06:34] Riddell: something specific wrong? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:34] where is hobbsee now? [06:35] Riddell: i see the foo, so i think you triggered it correctly [06:38] rocking, it's working now [06:38] thanks toma [06:39] ok, i just rebooted my computer, i can not imagen that solved this issue ;-) [06:40] is kde.nl hosted on your computer? [06:40] anyone tried using k3b/cdrecord recently on edgy? i can't burn cds [06:42] sealne: i can try.. hang on. [06:42] it seems to be at the burning stage [06:44] ah: Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? [06:44] hmm. [06:44] i'll try to delete a cdrw. [06:45] ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord* [06:45] k3b prompts me saying i should run k3bsetup to make cdrecord SUID root. [06:46] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-06-29 02:03 /usr/bin/cdrecord [06:46] before k3bsetup. [06:46] My computer can't seem to recover dpms'd monitors. [06:46] Anyone else having that problem on edgy? === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.122] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:49] sealne: k3bsetup doesn't do the job of setting SUID very well here.. [06:50] interesting, k3bsetup fails like that on debian aswell, least it wasn't specifically me :) [06:51] k3bsetup wasn't something i thought to test :( [06:51] unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-root/napier-01.cis.strath.ac.uk-7bad-44c8eeb2) [06:52] ^ anyone seen that before? [06:52] could it be related? [06:55] i don't think so. [06:57] is there a 'Autorun at logout'-function in KDE? [07:25] a what? === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-21-46.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@AC8E87E4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aliasfred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aliasfred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === _Sime|AFK is now known as _Sime === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-068-017-106-084.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aliasfred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal bows to the mighty person who fixed xserver!!! [09:32] Are you talking about xserver-input? [09:32] I always have to downgrade to 1.0.0.5 in order to keep my mouse working. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:58] hi all === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-13-193.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aliasfred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [10:15] toma: something like the Autostart folder.. for logouts, not logins. [10:16] mooh [10:16] hi tm_t. [10:17] is new xorg already in edgy? or should I expect xorg b0rkage if I move to edgy next week [10:18] Tm_T, X is currently broken [10:18] excellent [10:18] ;) [10:18] not so excellent, but oh well :P [10:19] it is, that means it should be ok in few weeks [10:19] ah :) [10:28] it's actually working just fine. [10:28] new xserver-xorg-video-* are in the archive now [10:29] heh [10:29] my x is working.. dist-upgraded yesterday. [10:29] crimsun: what version of xorg it is? 7.1? [10:29] a bit newer. [10:29] oh [10:29] 7.1.1 according to /var/log/Xorg.0.log [10:30] sounds good [10:30] I might dist-upgrade next week [10:31] I need something to mess with after I failed to build kdelibs in windows [10:31] though I fail in linux aswell =) [10:32] KDE4 <3 [10:32] What's your issue with xorg, Tm_T? [10:33] omeow: no issues, just don't wan't to upgrade in the middle of the borkage [10:33] Oh. [10:33] Well, the thing I mentioned above is only because of my mouse. Don't know of anything else that got broken. [10:33] I have to use the older version, because otherwise I can't use all my mouse buttons. [10:33] heh [10:33] The new version is broken according to some guide on ubuntu forums. [10:33] all? three is enough ;) [10:33] i use a couple extra. [10:34] I love to have the middle button under my thumb like now [10:34] I have a button above and underneath my scrollwheel. [10:35] I bound them to home and end, so I can skip a page directly to the end or beginning. [10:35] oh [10:35] sounds useful [10:35] It was such a pain to set up. [10:36] hehe [10:36] so it feels better when it success ;) [10:36] It made me feel depressed. [10:36] d'oh [10:36] Pitty that all other users will have to go through the trouble too. [10:37] true [10:37] It's not exactly userfriendly. And there's no tool for it. [10:40] <_Sime> Riddell: ping === aliasfred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] whats up with the fonts? [10:58] lol...they got small, but i kind of like it since this lappy is only 800x600 === aliasfred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [11:09] _Sime: hi [11:10] <_Sime> Riddell: hi, I downloaded the Freespire beta 2 disk. [11:10] ooh? [11:10] <_Sime> Riddell: it is a live CD (as well) and is worth having a look at. [11:10] 1 CD? [11:10] install? [11:10] <_Sime> Riddell: 1 cd [11:10] <_Sime> Riddell: +install, if you want that. [11:11] <_Sime> Riddell: they have some other config tools which I haven't seen before. [11:11] to do what? [11:13] <_Sime> network configuration. [11:13] <_Sime> they are also using Jack [11:13] <_Sime> (Arts has a jack out plugin I think) [11:14] ubuntu doesn't want jack in main so we don't compile for that [11:14] adept is broken again in edgy btw [11:15] nixternal, ah [11:16] my thoughts exactly ;) [11:22] what's up with it === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:47] @Berlin [11:47] hehe, oops [11:47] sorry [11:48] kwwii, :P [11:50] so how does that work again? === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:50] well, what do you new kwwii ? [11:50] the time, I mean [11:51] it was something with @ and a city name :-) [11:51] god, I sound like a newbie [11:51] @ Berlin [11:51] or such [11:51] oh well [11:52] It's 23.51, and decent computers have a working clock, dude. :-) [11:52] 52 even [11:53] UTC? [11:53] nop [11:54] will there be a network installation image for edgy? (if this has already been done then ignore me :P) [11:54] 21:53 UTC I would say [11:54] and that fscks me up every time [11:54] sorry mornfall...it is the database error [11:54] No, in Berlin :-) [11:54] Riddell: is the dev meeting at 23:00 UTC or ETC (as it says on the wiki)? [11:54] pygi seems also right, of course. [11:54] im in a rush as i am giving an Ubuntu presentation tonight for the Chicago LoCo [11:54] kwwii, UTC I would say [11:55] yeah, most meeting times are posted as UTC until now, but the fridge says Etc [11:55] sebas, :) [11:55] kwwii, fridge lies :P [11:56] pygi: btw, I have the icons almost finished === pygi does a happy dance, yay :) [11:56] I adapted a few of the oxygen icons to make ones specifically for bzr [11:57] thanks :) [11:57] I will send you them once I am happy with 'em :-) [11:57] uh, that means never ! :P [11:57] :p [11:58] no, no, it means one day before forever [11:58] is bzr a new package format? i think i remember reading something with "bzr" in something (k)ubuntu related earlier today [11:59] nop, it's not a new package format :P [11:59] !info bzr [11:59] bzr: bazaar-ng, the next-generation distributed version control system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 655 kB, installed size 3636 kB [11:59] Ignite_: it is a repository system, version control [11:59] hehe, yeah [11:59] sounds fun [11:59] kwwii, :P === Ignite_ goes in search of more info :D [12:00] Ignite_, http://bazaar-vcs.org/ [12:00] a little you can find here, other you can ask me [12:00] thanks, i'm there now :P [12:00] I'll be off to sleep soon tho, but tommorow is a good day :P [12:00] (1 minute 'till tommorow :P) [12:01] hehe [12:01] hehe [12:01] damn, I have to wait another hour to go to bed [12:01] well, more than that [12:01] kwwii, eh, why? [12:01] meeting? [12:01] yepp [12:02] did someone implement the new bazaar website design already? [12:03] kwwii, I think this is the new one :) [12:03] cool [12:03] right, your meeting starts in an hour [12:03] well, almost...57 minutes :) [12:04] the "Etc" on the wiki is what messed me up [12:04] kwwii, care to explain me one thing? [12:04] I registered a domain,and it is valid until 1.1.1970??? [12:04] I mean wth?? [12:05] huh? [12:05] that sounds fscked up [12:05] you have to register your domain and then pay every year [12:06] I know that, but notice the year pls :) [12:06] It's in the past !!! [12:06] yeah, sure [12:06] it is almost like a joke [12:06] or a really bad program [12:06] that might be the Y2k36 bug :P [12:06] hehe, doubt it [12:06] by now [12:06] kinda late for that [12:06] now the domain is free !!! I mean wth? [12:07] late for Y2k36 bug? nah, that is a new one :P [12:07] it'll happen in 2036 :) [12:07] arg, i can't install gnupg-agen cuz of libpth2 is not installable [12:07] 1/1/1970 is called epoch. When you donot know the expire date and you set the field to 0 a conversion to a human readable format results in 1/1/1970. [12:08] lol