[12:08] <grizzly> GlassCasket: in synaptic there is an option to add cds so they can be used as repositories. Try that
[12:09] <grizzly> any command line alternative to cdrecord?
[12:12] <GlassCasket> grizzly: If I have a cd in the cdrom drive, it automatically adds it to the list. :)
[12:12] <rlj> i assume the default 2.6.15 kernel kubuntu serves is a kubuntu-patched special kernel. are there any possibilities to run newer kernels in 6.06 without downloading the sources and installing manually? i.e, a 2.6.17 kernel would be nice
[12:12] <GlassCasket> But that still didn't answer my question, will it pull all the dependencies from the CD?
[12:13] <GaiaX11> Any1 here knows how to use kcontrol-autostart?
[12:14] <grizzly> GlassCasket: yes
[12:14] <obf213> anybody have a dual core cpu
[12:14] <GlassCasket> Thank you. :)
[12:22] <draik> rr72, IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!! I can finally print from my winxp laptop to my Kubuntu Desktop
[12:23] <draik> Thanks for your help rr72
[12:23] <xylus> hey guys can someone tell me of a good p2p cliant for kubuntu i can get off the apt repositorys
[12:23] <obf213> hey does anyone here have dual crore thats recognized by kubuntu
[12:23] <draik> xylus, I use LimeWire, but that's not in the repositories
[12:23] <draik> its still an easy install
[12:23] <xylus> yeah i know
[12:24] <xylus> apt-get java
[12:24] <xylus> than download lime
[12:24] <xylus> i was looking for something different tho
[12:24] <xylus> something new like ares perhaps
[12:24] <xylus> just thought maby their might be one in the respsitorys
[12:24] <Hawkwind> xylus: gtk-gnutella, azureus
[12:24] <Hawkwind> Though azureus is a HUGE resource hog
[12:24] <xylus> hey draik you know the command for sunjava latest jer?\
[12:25] <Hawkwind> !java
[12:25] <xylus> azureus isent that a bittorrent ?
[12:25] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:25] <draik> thank you Hawkwind
[12:25] <grizzly> !kjournald
[12:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about kjournald - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:25] <Hawkwind> xylus: That's still p2p whether it's bittorrent or not
[12:25] <xylus> awesome so sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:25] <xylus> yeah but im edgy on bittorrent considering ktorrent is allredy installed
[12:25] <Hawkwind> xylus: Read the how-to for java
[12:25] <xylus> no need to get another one
[12:25] <xylus> oh i know how java works i just wanted to know the command to download it
[12:26] <xylus> thx capin
[12:26] <Hawkwind> xylus: There are much better ways to do illegal stuff than a p2p client on Linux
[12:26] <xylus> realy?
[12:26] <xylus> enlighten me hawk XD
[12:26] <xylus> i like illegal stuff
[12:26] <xylus> warez sites piss me off
[12:26] <xylus> lol
[12:26] <Hawkwind> Music or movies ?
[12:26] <xylus> movies!
[12:26] <xylus> XD
[12:26] <Hawkwind> Then torrents are the best
[12:26] <Hawkwind> You won't find anything better
[12:27] <xylus> ktorrent search dosent work well anyone else have this problem?
[12:27] <xylus> i search something and half the time i cant get what i searched to download from the torrent
[12:27] <Hawkwind> Ummm, you don't use search. You go to the torrent site, click on download for what you want
[12:27] <obf213> yeah i had thqt problem
[12:28] <xylus> hawk got a link to the search site?
[12:28] <xylus> and thanks XD
[12:28] <xylus> i apreciate the assistance
[12:28] <bLaZeD> xylus, piratebay mini nova isohunt,torrentreactor...all public torrent rackers
[12:28] <bLaZeD> xylus, good rule of thumb....more seeds = faster downloads
[12:29] <obf213> wht can you do to get a cd info is cddb isnt working
[12:29] <xylus> blazed just a url well work for me
[12:29] <Hawkwind> xylus: I don't use search.  I visit my actual torrent sites, look for what I want and download it from there
[12:29] <xylus> i dont know what pirate bay mini nova isohunt etc etc is
[12:29] <slicslak> how do you search for packages from the cli?
[12:29] <Hawkwind> slicslak: apt-cache search
[12:29] <interfear> is the newest kubuntu the same as dapper drake 6.06 except with kde?
[12:29] <bLaZeD> xylus, just google the names of the trackers...
[12:29] <Hawkwind> xylus: demonoid.com
[12:29] <slicslak> Hawkwind, thx
[12:30] <xylus> demonoid.com pimped thx hawk
[12:30] <xylus> thanks balze
[12:30] <xylus> ill check that shiz out
[12:30] <Hawkwind> xylus: Or get someone to invite you to private sites like SceneTorrents.org or FeedThe.net
[12:30] <xylus> personaly the bitloard tracker is the best in my opinion
[12:30] <Hawkwind> xylus: Easy on the language, even the substitutions
[12:30] <xylus> i wonder how i can acess that without using bitloard
[12:30] <Hawkwind> You can download torrents from those sites with any client
[12:31] <xylus> sry sometimes i forget im on a public chat used to closed irc
[12:31] <obf213> what kernel do i need for dual core
[12:31] <xylus> kool thx guys
[12:32] <bLaZeD> obf213, a smp kernel
[12:32] <Hawkwind> obf213: linux-686
[12:32] <obf213> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 384/1001MB, 116 proc's, 1.20h up
[12:32] <obf213> is that correct
[12:33] <obf213> because when i got to sys mon iter or w/e i only c one cpu and m widget is only showign one cpu
[12:34] <Azmodan> Hello.  I just installed kubuntu on my second hard drive and all I get when I boot is Grub giving me an error 21...
[12:35] <proudfoot> !media
[12:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:35] <proudfoot> !dvd
[12:35] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:35] <obf213> Hawkwind was the the correct kernel?
[12:36] <RogueX> Hello
[12:37] <RogueX> Can anyone here help me with Konversation?
[12:38] <moparisthebest> maybe RogueX whatcha need?
[12:39] <grizzly> !cdrtools
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdrtools - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:39] <grizzly> !cdrecord
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdrecord - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:39] <obf213> !kernel
[12:39] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:39] <obf213> !smp
[12:39] <RogueX> moparisthebest: I made the main title bar dissapear and dont know  how to get it back
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:39] <sorush20> hi guys ...
[12:39] <sorush20> I seem to have lost all the contents of my home folder..
[12:40] <moparisthebest> hmm, interesting RogueX :P Ill look at mine, hang on a second
[12:41] <bastiq> how do i start fluxbox after i've installed it with adept?
[12:41] <moparisthebest> RogueX, so you dont see file or edit or insert etc etc?
[12:42] <rr72> draik~ np
[12:42] <RogueX> moparisthebest: exactly
[12:42] <moparisthebest> hmm, you dont know how you did it do you?
[12:42] <moparisthebest> i cant seem to be able to :/
[12:43] <xylus> ok boys i need some real help here ;) someone plz pm me a good media player for movies thats in the repositorys and show me how to install dvd divx avi and mpeg codecs and perhaps a good dvd player  i would apreciate it alot
[12:43] <RogueX> moparisthebest: yes... went into the menus .. tools maybe and clicked on make main tool bar go away
[12:44] <xylus> ok i jsut identifyed
[12:44] <xylus> try pming me now please someone
[12:44] <RogueX> moparisthebest: find it?
[12:44] <Hawkwind> xylus: kaffeine
[12:44] <moparisthebest> ah ok RogueX
[12:44] <moparisthebest> ctrl+m will fix you up ;)\
[12:44] <Hawkwind> !restricted
[12:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:44] <xylus> hawkwind is their nothing better aside from kaffeine perhaps mplayer?
[12:44] <Hawkwind> xylus: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[12:45] <Hawkwind> xylus: mplayer works well too
[12:45] <RogueX> moparisthebest: THANKS!
[12:45] <Hawkwind> As does Xine
[12:45] <xylus> ok now after i install mplayer
[12:45] <carlos> hello
[12:45] <xylus> or xine
[12:45] <moparisthebest> no problem RogueX, that was interesting to learn :)
[12:45] <xylus> how do i gear up codecs
[12:45] <carlos> I need help
[12:45] <Hawkwind> Read the above
[12:45] <xylus> for my dvd drive
[12:45] <Hawkwind> xylus: Those pages tell you EVERYTHING
[12:45] <xylus> what pages?
[12:45] <forkz> xylus: !restricted
[12:45] <RogueX> moparisthebest: up for another question?
[12:45] <moparisthebest> sure :)
[12:46] <carlos> I need help with my wifi and my graphic card
[12:46] <xylus> ok thanks man
[12:46] <forkz> xylus: To watch movies i just installed easyubuntu, and it works great!
[12:46] <RogueX> moparisthebest: how do I open a new tab and join another group??
[12:46] <forkz> kaffeine plays almost everything now :P
[12:46] <xylus> easyubuntu supports dvd drive?
[12:46] <xylus> and divx and avi and other formats aswell?
[12:46] <forkz> I dunno, but i watched a couople of dvds now :P
[12:46] <xylus> and auto installs the dvdrlibs?
[12:46] <xylus> and such
[12:47] <xylus> nice
[12:47] <forkz> divX yes, avi, yes
[12:47] <hackerball> hello
[12:47] <obf213> ok i fetched the i816 smp kernel
[12:47] <xylus> whats the apt command to download that fork ol bro
[12:47] <moparisthebest> RogueX, click file > server list
[12:47] <carlos> please can someone help me?
[12:47] <hackerball> i speak spanih
[12:47] <obf213> i need to restart when i get a new kernel right
[12:47] <hackerball> alguien habla espaol
[12:47] <carlos> yo
[12:47] <RogueX> moparisthebest: ok
[12:47] <hackerball> hola
[12:47] <RogueX> moparisthebest: don
[12:47] <hackerball> que tal
[12:47] <carlos> como estas
[12:47] <hackerball> bien
[12:47] <pierreth> hello
[12:47] <RogueX> moparisthebest: done now?
[12:47] <forkz> xylus: do not remember, but just go to the homepage, and see... as far as i remember: www.easyubuntu.org
[12:47] <hackerball> soy de peru
[12:47] <pierreth> i am unable to print
[12:47] <carlos> peru yo de el salvdor
[12:47] <xylus> thx man ill check it out
[12:47] <moparisthebest> ill answer questions all day if I can :P
[12:47] <forkz> NP
[12:48] <hackerball> y busco un poco de ayuda
[12:48] <forkz> hackerball: english?
[12:48] <xylus> says unknown hosetname
[12:48] <pierreth> i want to use cups
[12:48] <hackerball> es sobre little english
[12:48] <forkz> jsut write easyubuntu on google, and it will tell you :P
[12:48] <carlos> yo tambien
[12:48] <pierreth> i have a problem with authentification system
[12:48] <obf213> there might be a spanish channel
[12:48] <hackerball> tambien buscas ayuda
[12:48] <carlos> si
[12:48] <pierreth> how can i fix this?
[12:48] <hackerball> bueno
[12:48] <carlos> pero nadir me escucha
[12:49] <carlos> cual es tu problema
[12:49] <RogueX> moparisthebest: I got it wrong.. how do I open another channel in a new tab?
[12:49] <hackerball> bueno cual es tu pregunta?
[12:49] <moparisthebest> oh, just /j #channelname
[12:49] <forkz> xylus: here: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:49] <posthuman> Hi i have a question...what are the deb-src repositories for in the sources file?
[12:49] <posthuman> are they needed?
[12:49] <carlos> nome detecta la tarjeta wifi y tengo que comnfigurar la tarjeta grafica
[12:50] <RogueX> moparisthebest: ok next question.. how do I see/search for other available channels?
[12:50] <carlos> how do you install a driver for a graphic card?
[12:50] <hackerball> facil
[12:50] <imbrandon> carlos: depends on the card
[12:50] <moparisthebest> RogueX, press F5 or window > channel list
[12:50] <hackerball> claro
[12:50] <carlos> its a 1300 ati radeon
[12:50] <hackerball> la mia es una ATI
[12:51] <imbrandon> !ati
[12:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:51] <carlos> in my inspiron 6400
[12:51] <hackerball> que raro que no reconozca
[12:51] <imbrandon> follow that link from ubotu
[12:51] <imbrandon> !es
[12:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:51] <carlos> thanks and for the wifi card?
[12:51] <hackerball> ok
[12:51] <imbrandon> !wifi
[12:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:51] <hackerball> please
[12:51] <carlos> i speak english spanish and french
[12:51] <forkz> !easyubuntu
[12:51] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:51] <cotroler> hey ppl to install 32 bit kubuntu do i have 2 format? i have 64 bit
[12:51] <hackerball> yes
[12:51] <RogueX> moparisthebest: thank you
[12:52] <forkz> xylus: Found it?
[12:52] <moparisthebest> np
[12:52] <carlos> ill try that
[12:52] <imbrandon> cotroler: yes unless yo want a chroot
[12:52] <xylus> not atm lolz im actualy tryin to snag some torrents lol
[12:52] <xylus> ill check in a short moment
[12:52] <xylus> XD
[12:52] <hackerball> adios me voy al canal espaol
[12:53] <posthuman> !deb-src
[12:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about deb-src - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:53] <RogueX> moparisthebest: I notice everyone's name is in a different color... mine is in black.. is that done automacticly or is everyone setting it?
[12:53] <imbrandon> RogueX: automaicly in your client settings
[12:53] <moparisthebest> its done automatically on your end RogueX, you can disable it if you want
[12:53] <imbrandon> RogueX: your pink on my screen
[12:53] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:54] <crazy_penguin> night all! sleep well!
[12:54] <RogueX> imbrandon: Thank you
[12:54] <RogueX> moparisthebest: thanks
[12:54] <aegeanlinux> night crazy_penguin
[12:55] <TokenBad> how do I make a symbolic link?
[12:55] <imbrandon> ln -s /some/place link_name
[12:55] <imbrandon> man ls
[12:55] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:55] <andriijas> where can i find a kubuntu iptables starter guide?
[12:56] <andriijas> how do i get the /etc/rc.firewall file?
[12:56] <imbrandon> andriijas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:57] <carlos> I couldnt make a swap partition, will this be a problem?
[12:57] <andriijas> damn it why didnt i get there when i goggled
[12:57] <andriijas> imbrandon: thx
[12:57] <imbrandon> carlos: most likely
[12:58] <posthuman> yeah no swap partition will be bad.
[12:58] <carlos> hu :(
[12:58] <carlos> i tried with qtparted but it couldnt resise the partition
[12:59] <imbrandon> resise what partition , you keep giving us half of the information ;)
[01:00] <carlos> the original windows partition
[01:00] <carlos> sorry
[01:01] <TokenBad> tried the ln -s command and it says don't have permission to do it..so did it as root..and says same thing
[01:01] <imbrandon> qtparted cannot resize ntfs afaik
[01:01] <imbrandon> TokenBad: what are you trying to do ?
[01:02] <TokenBad> make a symbolic link from one dir to another dir
[01:02] <imbrandon> TokenBad: and you have read/write permossions to both ?
[01:02] <TokenBad> should...
[01:03] <imbrandon> then " ln -s /orig/dir /new/path "
[01:04] <carlos> and now with a linux file system will i be able to? I tries with the live cd but i couldnt choose resize
[01:04] <imbrandon> carlos: huh ? what are you doing ? what have you done, whats the problem
[01:04] <OOD> what would be the difference between a static and a dynamic binary?
[01:04] <imbrandon> whats your current partitions ?
[01:04] <carlos> i dont have a swap partition
[01:04] <carlos> only one and the dell restore
[01:05] <imbrandon> OOD: one is linked at compile time one at runtime
[01:05] <TokenBad> imbrandon, I tried that...not work
[01:05] <imbrandon> carlos: only one what ? see ok lets break this down to the VERY basicly, your not giving us the right info to help you
[01:05] <imbrandon> TokenBad: error ?
[01:05] <OOD> any differences? performance wise maybe?
[01:05] <carlos> well i have 3, the "normal
[01:05] <imbrandon> OOD: google is your friend on that one
[01:06] <carlos> the dell restore and a dell utulity partition
[01:06] <OOD> i gave it a try, didn't find much though
[01:06] <forkz> Anyone knows how to get Teamspeak send sound from mic?
[01:06] <imbrandon> carlos: normal? this is no "normal"
[01:06] <carlos> hmm, the other ones are hidden
[01:06] <TokenBad> imbrandon, says opperation not permitted
[01:06] <imbrandon> carlos: where are you looking, can you pastebin the output of " fdisk -l " please
[01:07] <carlos> ok wait
[01:07] <imbrandon> TokenBad: what is the exact command you are running
[01:07] <TokenBad> ln -s /media/server/MP3 /media/windows/mp3
[01:07] <carlos> Disque /dev/sda: 58.5 Go, 58506416640 octets
[01:07] <carlos> 255 ttes, 63 secteurs/piste, 7113 cylindres
[01:07] <carlos> Units = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets
[01:07] <carlos> Priphrique Amorce    Dbut         Fin      Blocs    Id  Systme
[01:07] <carlos> /dev/sda1               1           5       40131   de  Dell Utility
[01:07] <carlos> /dev/sda2               6        6720    53938237+  83  Linux
[01:07] <carlos> /dev/sda3            6721        7112     3148740   db  CP/M / CTOS / ...
[01:08] <imbrandon> carlos: PASTEBIN
[01:08] <carlos> how? what?
[01:08] <carlos> whats that?
[01:08] <imbrandon> !pastebin
[01:08] <forkz> No-one knows how to get Teamspeak send sound from mic?
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:09] <TokenBad> imbrandon,  ln -s /media/windows/server/MP3 /media/windows/mp3
[01:10] <imbrandon> TokenBad: as a user you cannot write to /media
[01:10] <imbrandon> ok does
[01:10] <imbrandon>  /media/windows/mp3 exitst now ?
[01:11] <carlos> where do i choose in what channel to send the text? (i fell so noob)
[01:11] <imbrandon> carlos: what ?
[01:11] <forkz> carlos: Dont you have tabs in the bottom of the window?
[01:12] <carlos> yes freenode and #kubuntu
[01:12] <forkz> Then these are the only channels only
[01:12] <TokenBad> imbrandon, I did as sudo and as normal user...and yes that dir exist
[01:12] <forkz> You can switch between the tabs by clicking on them ;)
[01:12] <imbrandon> carlos: yuo dont pick a channell on pastebin, you just give us the url
[01:13] <imbrandon> TokenBad: you cannot link to a an existing dir
[01:13] <imbrandon> TokenBad: ok do this
[01:13] <carlos> ah
[01:13] <imbrandon> TokenBad:  as a test type " ln -s /media/windows/server/MP3 ~/mp3 "
[01:14] <carlos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18967
[01:14] <TokenBad> I want the /media/windows/mp3 dir linked to /media/windows/server/mp3 so that the dir mp3 will be listed in the /media/windows/server/mp3 dir
[01:14] <imbrandon> then look in your home dir
[01:15] <imbrandon> TokenBad: query
[01:16] <carlos> did it worked?
[01:16] <carlos> the pstebin?
[01:23] <SuperCouilles> Anyone to help? I only need to "autostart" a program (run as service) and I have no clue... Anyone?
[01:23] <carlos> im doing the steps listed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and the installer ask me whats my video card bus identifier
[01:23] <carlos> what should i put?
[01:24] <grizzly> SuperCouilles: Create a  script > mv it to /etc/init.d > make it executable > use sys-rc-conf to make it start on runlevel2
[01:25] <grizzly> it was sysv-rc-conf ( i think)
[01:26] <grizzly> Since i installed a suspend2 patched terminal i am getting this with cdrecord "dev=ATAPI -scanbus" : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18968 .
[01:26] <grizzly> I meant a suspen2 patched kernel
[01:33] <alfredenueman> Greetings
[01:33] <alfredenueman> I need a bit of help setting up a dual boot and I have looked for my question on the weeb and found no answer
[01:33] <carlos> what is your system?
[01:34] <draik> alfredenueman, I dual boot winxp with Kubuntu 6.06
[01:34] <alfredenueman> well i got myy hdd split into a c:\ nd d:\ running xp
[01:35] <draik> ok
[01:35] <alfredenueman> and i want to split the d:\ into two partitions and put kubuntu on the new one
[01:35] <carlos> use the configurable
[01:35] <draik> anything on d:\?
[01:35] <alfredenueman> yeah there is stuff on d but it is backed up
[01:35] <carlos> nvm
[01:35] <alfredenueman> nd i have partition magic
[01:35] <draik> c and d are 1 drive, right? Just partitioned?
[01:35] <alfredenueman> right draik
[01:35] <draik> You have what I have then
[01:35] <draik> what is your issue?
[01:36] <alfredenueman> well with partition magic
[01:36] <alfredenueman> it asks if the new partiton should be primary or logical
[01:36] <alfredenueman> and i don't know which i need to set up kubuntu on it
[01:37] <grizzly> alfredenueman: logical
[01:37] <grizzly> no
[01:37] <alfredenueman> i tried to google but couldn't find much more than forums unrelated
[01:37] <draik> you set it up as a linux partition
[01:37] <draik> ext-2
[01:37] <draik> it will do the rest for you
[01:37] <alfredenueman> so make it logical, then format as ext2?
[01:37] <grizzly> alfredenueman: don't create a partition, just resize your d, and leave the free space
[01:38] <alfredenueman> ok
[01:38] <grizzly> and in the kubuntu installer , ask it to use existing free space
[01:38] <alfredenueman> ok
[01:38] <alfredenueman> thanks a bunch!
[01:38] <carlos> how do i install a wifi driver i downloaded?
[01:39] <alfredenueman> will i hve issues with the free space being past the 1024 cylinder?
[01:40] <carlos> can i resize the partition where ubuntu is running from?
[01:41] <Raven301> carlos: What driver & card? I have a howto for Broadcom Wireless cards
[01:41] <grizzly> carlos: try gparted, to resize
[01:41] <carlos> yes a broadcom
[01:42] <Raven301> carlos: have a read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[01:42] <Raven301> It worked great for me :)
[01:42] <carlos> even if im running ubuntu from the same partition? it says i must unmount the disk
[01:42] <carlos> raven thanks a lot
[01:43] <Raven301> carlos: np
[01:43] <grizzly> carlos: then you cld try using parted from the live cd
[01:43] <RogueX> hello
[01:43] <alfredenueman> so will i have issues with the new free space being past the 102 cylinder?
[01:44] <alfredenueman> 1024*
[01:44] <RogueX> is there any irc for a thunderbird problem?
[01:44] <carlos> raven i read that before but my card isn detected by ubuntu
[01:44] <carlos> grizzly ill try that thanks
[01:46] <carlos> i get this with iwconfig:
[01:46] <carlos> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:46] <carlos> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:46] <carlos> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[01:46] <alfredenueman> .. wwell thanks for the help with the partiton
[01:46] <Raven301> carlos: ok ... did you do what the howto said then reboot?
[01:46] <alfredenueman> i my be back for more questions later if i cant  find answers on my own.
[01:47] <carlos> no, im too scared, should i do it?
[01:47] <carlos> hey im lucky!
[01:48] <Raven301> I did with no problems ... it was a lot easier on kubuntu than on my last distro i used
[01:48] <carlos> 0000:0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[01:49] <Raven301> carlos: that's it ... now get the correct driver and follow the howto then reboot
[01:50] <Raven301> carlos: this is mine -  0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4319 (rev 02)
[01:50] <abattoir> !bcm43xx
[01:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:50] <carlos> i downloaded a driver from the dell web
[01:50] <abattoir> hmm, the broadcom factoid has been removed again :(
[01:51] <abattoir> carlos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper should help you
[01:51] <Raven301> abattoir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[01:51] <carlos> pointed by a guide on my laptop model
[01:51] <carlos> ill do your how to then come bakc
[01:52] <abattoir> Raven301: that has only bcm43xx specifics, nothing about ndiswrapper :(
[01:53] <abattoir> Raven301: and for many people(like me :( ) bcm43xx does not work properly always, while ndiswrapper does...
[01:53] <xylus> !codecs
[01:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <Raven301> abattoir: ok ... all I know is it worked for me on my dell and it only took about 5 mins to do
[01:54] <abattoir> Raven301: oh, ok :)
[01:54] <Raven301> :)
[01:55] <carlos> so wich guide should i follow? my laptop is a dell inspiron 6400
[01:56] <xylus> hey guys whats the apt command for libdvdread3 libs?
[01:56] <abattoir> carlos: Raven301says it worked for him, so you can use that if you want, the community doc has instructions for that as well as ndiswrapper though...
[01:56] <xylus> i tryed sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[01:56] <xylus> dident work :(
[01:56] <abattoir> xylus: what does it say? error?
[01:56] <xylus> says bash no such file or directory
[01:57] <xylus> im using linux konsole perhaps i should use root shell?
[01:57] <abattoir> xylus: for 'sudo' ?
[01:57] <xylus> or just plane shel
[01:57] <carlos> ok, but i need to add the universe repository first
[01:57] <xylus> yeah for sudo
[01:57] <Raven301> carlos: Mine is a dell inspiron 1300
[01:57] <xylus> oh my bad yeah its probs the shell im using
[01:57] <abattoir> xylus: you do not need to be in a root shell, sudo should do
[01:58] <xylus> kk XD
[01:58] <Raven301> carlos: good luck :)
[01:59] <carlos> so it should work, my dad wants me to put xp back and has grounded me so i want to show him how great linux is
[01:59] <carlos> whats the universe repository adress?
[01:59] <Raven301> carlos: I have xp and kubuntu on my dell
[02:00] <abattoir> carlos: just add 'universe multiverse' in the same line as 'main restricted' if you know what i mean
[02:00] <carlos> i wanted both so i wouldnt get grounded but i messed up the hrd drive
[02:00] <carlos> in adept or in command line?
[02:00] <abattoir> carlos: yes, open up adept...
[02:01] <carlos> sorry im a total linux noob
[02:01] <Raven301> I use command prompt
[02:01] <abattoir> carlos: find the line which says something like 'deb us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted'
[02:01] <abattoir> carlos: we've all been there :)
[02:01] <basko> Hi everybody..Good day. Is there a decent kde client to WPA authentication?
[02:01] <xylus> ok pimped i have all the dvd libs for kubuntu anyone sugest mplayer as a good medium for playing dvd from a dvd drive?
[02:02] <abattoir> xylus: kaffeine doesnt work?
[02:02] <xylus> well i havent tryed kafeine lol
[02:02] <abattoir> carlos: found the line?
[02:02] <xylus> i would rather something alittle different besides sound dosent play in kaffeine
[02:02] <carlos> yes
[02:02] <xylus> !audio codecs kafeine
[02:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio codecs kafeine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:02] <martin> xylus: how about xine
[02:02] <xylus> hmm !audio
[02:03] <xylus> !xine
[02:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:03] <Raven301> carlos: also have a look at this too http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[02:03] <carlos> lol
[02:03] <abattoir> carlos: just double click on 'main restricted' and add 'universe multiverse'
[02:03] <xylus> yeah ill go get xine
[02:03] <abattoir> carlos: so it should look like 'main restricted universe multiverse'
[02:03] <xylus> xine is in the multiverse reposotory rite?
[02:03] <carlos> ok
[02:03] <abattoir> carlos: also make sure the distribution is 'dapper'
[02:03] <martin> no idea...
[02:03] <abattoir> rather than 'dapper-backports'
[02:04] <abattoir> !info xine
[02:04] <carlos> yea its daper
[02:04] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in dapper
[02:04] <abattoir> xylus: xine is almost = kaffeine :P
[02:04] <xylus> ok abattoir
[02:04] <xylus> sorry for the spam but look
[02:04] <carlos> ok i added the line
[02:04] <xylus> xylus@blk-224-214-45:~$ sudo apt-get install xine
[02:04] <xylus> Reading package lists... Done
[02:04] <xylus> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:04] <xylus> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:04] <xylus> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:04] <xylus> is only available from another source
[02:04] <xylus> E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[02:04] <abattoir> carlos: ok, Apply changes and fetch updates
[02:04] <xylus> whats i need?
[02:05] <Corona> how do you change your hostname on your computer?
[02:05] <xylus> corona why would u wana do that?
[02:05] <xylus> then u cant connect to the internet
[02:06] <martin> xylus: I'm having a nightmare with apt reporting that error... can't for the life of me install freenx.
[02:06] <xylus> martin
[02:06] <Corona> because i don't like people seeing my computer name when i log out of IRC rooms
[02:06] <abattoir> !info xine-ui
[02:06] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[02:06] <xylus> it means u need another program
[02:06] <abattoir> xylus: ^^^^^
[02:06] <xylus> xine isent the main program so i need something else
[02:06] <xylus> ok abattoir
[02:06] <xylus> why dident it download tho?
[02:06] <xylus> i dont understand what that means lol
[02:08] <carlos> i cant click apply changes
[02:08] <Corona> can ops ban whole ip ranges?
[02:08] <RogueX> can anyone help me with Amarok?
[02:08] <xylus> watcha nead rogue
[02:08] <xylus> no sound rite/?
[02:08] <xylus> plays files too fast?
[02:09] <Tm_T> Corona: sure
[02:09] <Corona> blah
[02:09] <Tm_T> Corona: or whole internet if they like
[02:09] <Corona> ;P
[02:09] <xylus> corona a op can do anything they are irc gods :P
[02:09] <Tm_T> that's not useful though
[02:09] <RogueX> xylus: amarok was playing my mp3's now it says something called the voit engine cant play them??
[02:09] <Tm_T> xylus: we are
[02:09] <Corona> well there is a particular "god" that i don't care for
[02:09] <Corona> who can't take a f'n joke
[02:09] <abattoir> RogueX: change the engine to xine-engine
[02:09] <Tm_T> Corona: still you?
[02:09] <xylus> hmmm im not that advanced rogue youll have to ask one of the l33ts i only can help with simple stuff lol
[02:10] <abattoir> Tm_T: :)
[02:10] <Corona> and got me banned from a room based on his own ignorance.  Yes, it's me
[02:10] <Tm_T> meh
[02:10] <RogueX> abattoir: ok trying now
[02:10] <Tm_T> why I'm slowly amused
[02:10] <Corona> whatever, i didn't do anything worthy of this Tm
[02:10] <Tm_T> Corona: could be true
[02:10] <xylus> hey dont backtalk the gods corona
[02:10] <xylus> youll get abused
[02:10] <xylus> lol
[02:11] <Corona> now i can't get support on hardly any chat rooms because of his pompous attitude
[02:11] <Corona> when i need freakin help
[02:11] <Tm_T> you're not banned here
[02:11] <Corona> well i'd like to see other friends, to boot
[02:11] <Tm_T> :p
[02:11] <Corona> on other rooms, from which i am banned
[02:11] <RogueX> abattoir: That got it! Thanks!
[02:11] <abattoir> RogueX: :)
[02:12] <Corona> because a certain OP or "GOD" misconstrued what i said, and insta-banned me...  without even bothering to ask me what i meant by what i said
[02:12] <martin> In the adept package installer, when you click 'install package' but nothing happens. What does this mean...?
[02:12] <abattoir> martin: did you apply changes?
[02:12] <xylus> ab check tab sorry about that ;)
[02:12] <angasule> !restricted_formats
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about restricted_formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:13] <angasule> !mp3
[02:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <martin> abattoir: yes, the buttun doesn't change. It stays as 'install package'
[02:13] <xylus> oh martin
[02:13] <xylus> click apply changes
[02:13] <xylus> up at the top :P
[02:13] <xylus> to actualy install the stuff that u slected to install
[02:14] <Corona> screw it...  i'm savvy enough to get where i wanna get.
[02:14] <Corona> afk
[02:14] <martin> xylus: That option is still blanked out. When I click install package literally nothing happens. Usually it changes to Keep Package and then one commit the change. nothing changes however.
[02:15] <carlos> when i add universe multiverse the apply changes button remains unclickable
[02:15] <keithfunkhouser> hello
[02:17] <martin> There is actually more to my story which might help...
[02:18] <martin> nomachine nx used to work very happily. I've got a few XP workstations connecting to a central kubuntu server
[02:19] <martin> I came to updating the nx server on my kubuntu machine but fecked things up a litte. Adept, in it's enthusiasm, started to unistall libc6 and anything that depended on it...
[02:19] <martin> I stopped it before it did too much damage. But I cannot get nomachine nx to install again at all.
[02:19] <abattoir> carlos: in the manage repositories window?
[02:20] <carlos> yes abbatoir
[02:22] <abattoir> carlos: that's weird...
[02:22] <carlos> yes very
[02:22] <SuperCouilles> Anyone to help me setting up a VNCserver as "service"? Everything work but I need to make it autostart...
[02:23] <Raven301> carlos: are you trying to update or what?
[02:23] <carlos> install my wifi drivers
[02:23] <carlos> and it need universe
[02:23] <abattoir> !classroom
[02:23] <Dasnipa`> SuperCouilles, have you considered starting it from ssh?
[02:23] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[02:23] <RogueX> abattoir: another question?
[02:24] <abattoir> RogueX: sure
[02:24] <Hawkwind> RogueX: One per day!
[02:24] <Hawkwind> Heh
[02:24] <abattoir> carlos: ok, i guess you should try source-o-matic..
[02:24] <martin> !freenx
[02:24] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:24] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[02:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:24] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hi :)
[02:24] <Raven301> carlos: try this page http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[02:24] <Raven301> carlos: It's what I use
[02:24] <RogueX> abattoir: amarok seems to jump around on its own... I am looking at the lyrics tab and then it just jumps to the Home tab.
[02:24] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Evening!
[02:25] <Raven301> lol
[02:25] <carlos> ok wait
[02:25] <RogueX> Hawkwind: I used all my questions up a long time ago then.. :)
[02:25] <Raven301> It's own by a great guy
[02:25] <abattoir> RogueX: which version? you mean when the track changes?
[02:25] <RogueX> LFD?
[02:25] <Raven301> Evening Hawkwind
[02:26] <abattoir> RogueX: linux for dummies
[02:26] <abattoir> www.linuxfordummies.org
[02:26] <abattoir> !lfd
[02:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about lfd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:26] <RogueX> abattoir: 1.3.9 ver.. no just when the song is playing
[02:26] <Hawkwind> Raven301: Hey there
[02:26] <abattoir> hmm, ubotu should probably get an entry
[02:26] <abattoir> RogueX: that's weird, it should not happen, maybe its a bug, try getting the latest version, 1.4.1
[02:27] <RogueX> abattoir: I just started using/playing with it and it keeps jumping to home tan
[02:27] <Hawkwind> ubotu: lfd is http://linuxfordummies.org A great place to learn about linux for beginner and experienced users alike.
[02:27] <Hawkwind> Learn!
[02:27] <Hawkwind> lfd?
[02:27] <Hawkwind> !lfd
[02:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about lfd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:27] <Hawkwind> I said learn!
[02:27] <martin> !nxagent
[02:27] <abattoir> Hawkwind: it has to be added by the ops
[02:27] <RogueX> abattoir: tan=tab..
[02:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about nxagent - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:27] <abattoir> Hawkwind: your request would be forwarded to them
[02:28] <SystematicDub> Hey all.  Has anyone on here dual booted Windoze and Kubuntu/Ubuntu with Windoze on an internal drive and K/Ubuntu on an external drive?
[02:28] <abattoir> RogueX: as i said, go to www.kubuntu.org, see the link for amarok 1.4.1, see if that solves the issue
[02:28] <RogueX> abattoir: ok will do that now
[02:29] <xylus_> ehhh
[02:30] <xylus_> strange i got dc and my name changed
[02:30] <abattoir> xylus_: that's because the 'old you' was still present
[02:30] <abattoir> xylus_: do a /nick xylus
[02:30] <LordXylus> represent
[02:30] <LordXylus> XD
[02:30] <xylus> their we go XD
[02:30] <xylus> lol thx
[02:31] <xylus> yeah like i was sayin
[02:31] <xylus> should i install mplayer first befor installing the mplayer codecs
[02:31] <carlos> what do i do with the sources.list?
[02:31] <xylus> and kdsu knoquer goes in the command consol rite should i type sudo?
[02:31] <abattoir> xylus: afaik, it is compiled to look for the files, so shouldnt be a prob
[02:31] <abattoir> carlos: place it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <abattoir> carlos: you did source-o-matic?
[02:32] <carlos> yes
[02:32] <xylus> ok thanks bro
[02:32] <abattoir> carlos: so you enabled, universe, multiverse etc. there itself rigth? :P
[02:32] <abattoir> *right
[02:32] <abattoir> carlos: it might also be a good idea to rename the old file, and back it up
[02:32] <carlos> yes, i think i ticked most options
[02:33] <carlos> ok will backup
[02:33] <abattoir> carlos: ok good, you know how to do that right?
[02:33] <carlos> rename?
[02:33] <abattoir> carlos: yes, a file w/ root permission
[02:33] <carlos> theres nothing in the folder
[02:34] <abattoir> carlos: ok, do as i say, save the sources.list you got now in your home folder
[02:34] <abattoir> carlos: so it should be /home/carlos(??)/sources.list
[02:34] <carlos> ah in home!
[02:35] <abattoir> carlos: saved it?
[02:35] <carlos> i just tryed in root folder wait
[02:35] <abattoir> carlos: no, not in /root, you generally would never have to go there
[02:36] <Raven301> carlos: or this  sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[02:36] <abattoir> Raven301: yes, that's next :)
[02:36] <carlos> ok i saved as a tmp in home/carlos
[02:36] <abattoir> carlos: ok do what Raven301 said
[02:37] <carlos> i just did, i guess it worked but i didnt get a comfirmation
[02:37] <abattoir> carlos: ok, that sounds good
[02:38] <abattoir> carlos: now do a 'sudo cp /home/carlose/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:38] <carlos> omg I really must read the linux for noobs
[02:38] <abattoir> carlos: or whatever you saved it as
[02:38] <abattoir> *carlos :P
[02:39] <carlos> ok
[02:39] <scabootssca> where do i install programs so i can run them from commandline
[02:39] <abattoir> carlos: done?
[02:39] <carlos> yes
[02:39] <abattoir> carlos: ok now do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:40] <abattoir> carlos: do you see 'multiverse', 'universe' somewhere?
[02:40] <xylus_> abattoir yr the man ;)
[02:40] <xylus_> i did it so thats all/
[02:40] <carlos> yes i see universe
[02:40] <xylus_> ican play any medium and hear sound now using mediaplayer or kafeen?
[02:41] <carlos> and multiverse too
[02:41] <abattoir> carlos: good... so that's done :)
[02:41] <carlos> thanks
[02:41] <abattoir> xylus_: which one did you install? essential or all?
[02:41] <xylus_> their was no all
[02:41] <xylus_> jsut esential
[02:41] <xylus_> :(
[02:41] <xylus_> and other
[02:41] <abattoir> yes, almost anything should work, real meadia, wmv, quick time
[02:41] <abattoir> quicktime*
[02:41] <zblach__> hi
[02:41] <zblach__> quick question
[02:41] <xylus_> avi and divx are the imporent ones ;)
[02:42] <xylus_> i guess ill find out soon enuph
[02:42] <abattoir> xylus_: they should work
[02:42] <abattoir> zblach__: yes...
[02:42] <xylus_> if not ill just come back and refer to you.
[02:42] <xylus_> lolz
[02:42] <abattoir> heh
[02:42] <xylus_> thx ima try and pop in a dvd now
[02:42] <xylus_> see how it works
[02:42] <xylus_> lol love the enthuseam
[02:42] <xylus_> nyways l8tr guys ill bbl
[02:42] <zblach__> i have a nokia phone w/ bluetooth. can I integrate it with an outlook express-alike?
[02:43] <abattoir> zblach__: s60 ?
[02:43] <zblach__> 6103
[02:43] <abattoir> zblach__: hmm, ok, kontact is the app(similar to outlook)
[02:43] <zblach__> i'm poor
[02:43] <abattoir> zblach__: and kmoblietools is the application
[02:43] <zblach__> kmobiletools?
[02:43] <abattoir> zblach__: yes
[02:43] <carlos> ok ill reboot now to see if the video card config worked
[02:43] <abattoir> !info kmobiletools
[02:43] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 179 kB, installed size 820 kB
[02:44] <abattoir> zblach__: i'm not sure if the version that comes w/ dapper^^^^ has bluetooth pairing wizard and kontact integration...
[02:44] <abattoir> zblach__: but the latest version, compiled form svn has it...
[02:44] <zblach__> exactly what I was looking for
[02:45] <abattoir> zblach__: if you *really* want the feature, i think you have to compile from svn
[02:45] <beefsprocket> anyone got a logitech mx600 working with proper buttons? checked forums, evdev howo etc. no love..., tried lmctl and lomoco too
[02:46] <zblach__> svn?
[02:47] <abattoir> zblach__: its a method for downloading the latest version(bleeding edge development version) and compiling and installing it
[02:47] <fabioval> boa noite.
[02:47] <abattoir> zblach__: wait i'll see if the abovesaid version has the features you need...
[02:48] <abattoir> !br
[02:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:48] <xylus_> sweet XD works like a charm :)
[02:48] <fabioval> #ubuntu-br
[02:48] <wolfmanz> abattoir id it normal for the flash player to not have audio?
[02:49] <beefsprocket> zblach__: you want http://websvn.kde.org/branches/kmobiletools/ and http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html
[02:49] <abattoir> wolfmanz: hmmm, i really havent used flash in a long time, i think it doesnt if you view a flash 8/9(??) movie
[02:51] <abattoir> zblach__: or even http://www.kmobiletools.org/svn
[02:51] <wolfmanz> abattoir is there a quick way to see the flash version?
[02:51] <abattoir> wolfmanz: of the file? i'm not aware of one? tried googling?
[02:51] <fabioval> hello, i have 945gnt intel board, i having some problems whith it, anybody can help ?
[02:52] <abattoir> wolfmanz: maybe rightclick on the swf, and see properties or something?
[02:52] <abattoir> fabioval: video problems?
[02:52] <abattoir> wolfmanz: ^^^^ your board right? :P
[02:52] <scabootssca> how do i install programs manually
[02:52] <abattoir> wolfmanz: or is it just your video card that has 915 in it :P
[02:53] <abattoir> scabootssca: you mean you want to compile a program?
[02:53] <scabootssca> no
[02:53] <abattoir> fabioval: what is the problem?
[02:53] <fabioval> i dont know, when i install ubuntu it selects the 686 kernel, but when i try to boot whith this kernel the system hangs....
[02:53] <wolfmanz> abattoir its version 7 of flash
[02:53] <abattoir> wolfmanz: the player or the file?
[02:53] <wolfmanz> the player
[02:53] <scabootssca> i have a program in a folder and i can run it but how do i make it so i can run it from command line and make it in the menu
[02:53] <abattoir> fabioval: you get any error messages?
[02:54] <fabioval> but if i boot whith de 386 kernel, it boots but i get some error messages during boot...
[02:54] <abattoir> scabootssca: hmm, can you tell me which application it is?
[02:54] <scabootssca> blender www.blender3d.org
[02:55] <fabioval> it complains about the rtc...
[02:55] <abattoir> real time clock? or some other rtc?
[02:55] <fabioval> yes, real time clock.
[02:55] <RandomDude15> whats a program to burn AVI files to dvds?
[02:55] <abattoir> !info blender
[02:55] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4734 kB, installed size 12588 kB
[02:55] <abattoir> scabootssca: ^^^ ?
[02:56] <scabootssca> no version 2.42a
[02:56] <scabootssca> it's not in the repository yet
[02:56] <fabioval> the only special thing i have in the mb, is a level raid1 with 2 sata disks...
[02:56] <scabootssca> i can use it
[02:56] <RandomDude15> hello?
[02:57] <abattoir> scabootssca: ok, i guess you just need to make a shortcut and a menu entry yourself
[02:57] <scabootssca> abattoir: i can use it and run it but wher do i install it and how?
[02:57] <scabootssca> ok where do programs usually go?
[02:57] <abattoir> scabootssca: kmenuedit <---- use that to edit your menu
[02:57] <scabootssca> like so they can be run from command line
[02:57] <fabioval> any ideas ???
[02:58] <scabootssca> like ususlly you type the name of the program to start it
[02:58] <scabootssca> how do i make it so i can do it with blender?
[02:58] <scabootssca> like how do i install it or whatever
[02:59] <abattoir> fabioval: i have no clue :(
[02:59] <abattoir> fabioval: w/ i386 it boots fully up right?
[02:59] <abattoir> scabootssca: the instructions at the site say, 'ectract it and run it'
[03:00] <abattoir> scabootssca: you could either at the location of the the file to PATH or you could create a symlink to /usr/bin
[03:00] <abattoir> *add the location
[03:00] <fabioval> yes, despite the error message it works...
[03:00] <tic_> where is the place to ask fglrx questions?
[03:01] <abattoir> fabioval: is this only with ubuntu? have you used any other distro w/ this board?
[03:01] <RandomDude15> you fuckers are no help
[03:02] <scabootssca> abattoir: what's a sym link?
[03:03] <martin> I've finally got freenx installed and running. My XP/2000 machines can no connect to my server. However, before we had it set up so the windows machines could actually read a shared folder on the linux machine. The file store. Any ideas how to set this up again. I can ping my linux machine, so it does exist on the network, windows just doesn't quite like it yet... =/
[03:03] <abattoir> scabootssca: its a symbolic link, one file actually redirects to another file, see 'man ln' for more info
[03:04] <abattoir> scabootssca: it like you create a /usr/bin/blender and link it to /home/user/blender/blender.. so when you call 'blender' the app is launched
[03:04] <fabioval> only live cds, because the raid is a little beaty dificulty to install.....
[03:05] <tic_> anyone know why an apt-get upgrade killed my opengl rendering?
[03:06] <beefsprocket> tic_: you use ati video card?
[03:06] <tic_> yes
[03:06] <tic_> radeon 9000 mobility
[03:06] <beefsprocket> tic_: you have linux-restricted-modules for your kernel version installled or are you using the ati downloaed driver?
[03:08] <tic_> beefsprocket: I tried both, I have been trying for 4 hours and it a problem cause im coding some opengl so direct rendering is needed :\
[03:08] <abattoir> fabioval: when does the system 'hang' w/ the 686 kernel...? before X is loaded?
[03:08] <beefsprocket> tic_: I've found with ati that you have to remove one entirely before installing the other
[03:08] <martin> !nx
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about nx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:08] <tic_> beefsprocket: what can I do to update you on the current state, cause I might have messed it all up
[03:09] <martin> !freenx
[03:09] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:09] <tic_> beefsprocket: my /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[03:10] <beefsprocket> tic_ change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to ati for now
[03:10] <aegeanlinux> !nomachine
[03:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about nomachine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:10] <beefsprocket> tic_: then apt-get remove fglrx* --purge
[03:10] <pierreth> help: i an unable to print!
[03:10] <beefsprocket> then apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:10] <aegeanlinux> help: I have no manners!
[03:10] <beefsprocket> reboot, change ati to fglrx in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you should be fine
[03:10] <beefsprocket> that is unless you are using a custom kernel?
[03:12] <tic_> beefsprocket: no custom kernel
[03:12] <fabioval> yes, before X starts.
[03:12] <beefsprocket> tic_: good :)
[03:12] <beefsprocket> less complicated
[03:12] <tic_> beefsprocket: if this solves the problem i'll by you a beer :)
[03:12] <beefsprocket> tic_ also check for xorg-driver-fglrx, best to search synaptic for fglrx actually
[03:13] <beefsprocket> tic_ if you are in toronto I'll take you up on that :p
[03:14] <gezim> What package(s) do I need to compile stuff with kubuntu?
[03:14] <tic_> beefsprocket: no I'm in denmark so I'll post one :)
[03:14] <beefsprocket> right, haven't had danish beer in a while, could do :)
[03:15] <tmdx120> hello all. does anyone know of a good statistical analysis program for kubuntu?
[03:15] <tic_> beefsprocket: a nice cold tuborg or carlsberg?
[03:15] <beefsprocket> tuborg always
[03:16] <tic_> beefsprocket: good choice ;)
[03:16] <beefsprocket> heh
[03:16] <beefsprocket> is it working?
[03:16] <tic_> do I need to install all fglrx packages adept gives me?
[03:17] <beefsprocket> tic_ I think you want to uninstall them actually
[03:17] <beefsprocket> that is if you installed anything from outside apt from ati (their binary .run that is)
[03:17] <tic_> okay I have uninstall all and reinstalled xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:17] <beefsprocket> tic_ uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx too
[03:17] <tmdx120> Hello all. Does anyone know of a good statistical analysis software ?
[03:18] <beefsprocket> you want linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` first
[03:18] <beefsprocket> if that doesn't work then xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:18] <tic_> done
[03:18] <tic_> okay
[03:18] <beefsprocket> that why you change fglrx to ati in xorg.conf
[03:19] <tic_> oki so I install the driver after reboot?
[03:19] <tic_> nows all clear the only thing I installed was the restricted module
[03:19] <beefsprocket> yeah, if you have no 3d, install xorg-driver blah then kill x and modprobe fglrx, edit xorg.conf
[03:19] <beefsprocket> ok good
[03:20] <tic_> I'll go for a reboot then?
[03:20] <beefsprocket> yeah
[03:20] <tic_> later, thank you very much so far :)
[03:20] <beefsprocket> see you shortly :)
[03:21] <fabioval> no ideas ?
[03:22] <scabootssca> abattoir: i create a "link to application" but whenever i press ok it says acess denied
[03:22] <abattoir> scabootssca: on the desktop?
[03:22] <scabootssca> no in /usr/bin
[03:22] <abattoir> fabioval: i'm sorry.. have you tried asking at #ubuntu ?
[03:23] <abattoir> scabootssca: so you created /usr/bin/blender ?
[03:23] <scabootssca> so i can call it like you said or i'm just not doing it right
[03:24] <fabioval> no, i'll try that, thanks a lot.
[03:25] <scabootssca> so it wont let me
[03:25] <scabootssca> i put the actual program in /usr/lib/blender and i'm trying to make a link in /usr/bin
[03:26] <scabootssca> is that how you're supposted to?
[03:26] <abattoir> scabootssca: 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/blender /usr/bin/blender'
[03:26] <abattoir> assuming /usr/lib/blender is the executable
[03:26] <scabootssca> ok thanks
[03:27] <scabootssca> it's be /usr/lib/blender/blender then
[03:27] <abattoir> yup
[03:28] <beefsprocket> well tic_ ?
[03:28] <tic_> beefsprocket: well still mesa driver
[03:28] <scabootssca> thanks you abattoir
[03:28] <beefsprocket> ok, now get xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[03:28] <abattoir> scabootssca: works?
[03:28] <scabootssca> it works
[03:28] <abattoir> scabootssca: cool :)
[03:29] <scabootssca> trpy blender and it starts
[03:29] <tic_> beefsprocket: when I rebootede it could'n startx so I installede xorg-driver-fglrx, edited xorg.conf and booted
[03:30] <beefsprocket> tic_ you edited yo fglrx right?
[03:30] <tic_> beefsprocket: I changede the driver option in xorg.conf from ati to fglrx
[03:30] <beefsprocket> hmm, up for a little x11vnc action then?
[03:31] <tic_> year sure, if there isn't any info I can pass to you?
[03:31] <tic_> I'm behind firewall is that a problem for vnc?
[03:31] <beefsprocket> well, long as you have restricted modules for your kernel installed
[03:32] <beefsprocket> vnc needs 5900 open, tcp I think
[03:32] <beefsprocket> long as you are ok with it :)
[03:32] <tic_> well are you a nice guy? :)
[03:32] <beefsprocket> I like to think so
[03:32] <beefsprocket> :p
[03:33] <beefsprocket> i give you my word before these 228 other people that you can trust me
[03:33] <beefsprocket> (minus the bots, they can't be trusted themselves)
[03:33] <tic_> sweet
[03:34] <beefsprocket> working?
[03:34] <tic_> where do I pass your login info?
[03:34] <tic_> yes
[03:34] <beefsprocket> tic_ you registered? pm me
[03:34] <tic_> no I'm not
[03:35] <^zanDarK> hi all
[03:35] <RawSewage> is the update broken right now
[03:36] <tic_> beefsprocket: my pm's are blocked due to spam problems it says :)
[03:36] <beefsprocket> yeah, that's the registed thing
[03:36] <tic_> do I need to reg?
[03:36] <tic_> or how can I pass the info
[03:37] <beefsprocket> one sec, phone
[03:37] <archangel_> wussaaaaaaaap!!
[03:38] <confused> what am I suppost to do to have like groups/others have access to change files/folders for w/e reason with root password or even without would be nice
[03:39] <archangel_> can anyone help me with macromedia?
[03:39] <archangel_> I did the manual install, but I still get nothing
[03:40] <RawSewage> is the update broken right now
[03:41] <confused> if noone answers in here arch maybe go to #Ubuntu ;) just dont say your using Kubuntu unless you think it would help ;) im going there to ask something
[03:41] <archangel_> thanx confused
[03:41] <tic_> beefsprocket: can't answer you by pm
[03:41] <beefsprocket> that's ok
[03:41] <beefsprocket> cryptic if people only see 1/2 the conversation :)
[03:42] <confused> archangel_: your welcome.. I try and come here to ask but have yet to get a response really :X
[03:42] <tic_> beefsprocket: I'll just registre :)
[03:42] <beefsprocket> ok
[03:42] <tic_> beefsprocket: 2 sec
[03:42] <beefsprocket> np
[03:42] <archangel_> confused: yeah, sometimes it takes a while
[03:43] <confused> archangel_: yep lol.. thats why you open your chakras and ask the heavens hah
[03:43] <archangel_> confused: I need sound, a working printer & macromedia
[03:43] <archangel_> lol
[03:44] <archangel_> confused: I dont DARE ask more than 1 thing in one night
[03:44] <martin> editing smb.conf. Would I have to restart to make those changes take effect?
[03:44] <confused> archangel_: I need sound in a game and need to install java or w/e it's called and have no printer <3 I dont know anything about linux but was the sound unmuted?
[03:44] <beefsprocket> martin: /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[03:44] <confused> archangel_: did you get yelled at when doing that? I ask maybe every 10 or something minutes for like 2 or three times until I give up
[03:44] <martin> ta
[03:44] <beefsprocket> (or whatever the samba files is there)
[03:45] <archangel_> confused: I dont know much myself. I checked the mute butten and it's not muted
[03:45] <confused> archangel_: most of what these people do is by experience and to get experience is doing things first hand or trying to google your questions :)
[03:46] <sdlnxgk> anyone using digital  speakers????
[03:46] <archangel_> confused: yeah, I try and do that---->  linuxquestions.org is a great place
[03:47] <confused> archangel_: I just go anywhere in google if the little description matches the keywords.. going to a site for one thing is like trying out bittorrent :X I dont like either haha
[03:48] <archangel_> confused: yeah, I hear ya on that one
[03:49] <sdlnxgk> !digital sound
[03:49] <beefsprocket> x working tic_ ?
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about digital sound - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:50] <tic_> beefsprocket: no I still says im unregistred
[03:50] <archangel_> confused: I was thinking about reinstalling, cause my sound was working before thew motherboard change
[03:50] <beefsprocket> tic_ you did /msg nickserv identify password ? in the server tab?
[03:51] <confused> archangel_: if you think on that type of concept you might be reinstalling for everything that used to work before a change :)
[03:52] <archangel_> confused: Yeah, but unfortunatly, my sound was the only thing working
[03:52] <beefsprocket> confused: for hardware it's done frequently, though unnecessarily with linux :)
[03:52] <archangel_> lol
[03:52] <confused> lol
[03:52] <martin> YES! I'm happy because eveything is fixed. Where would I be, without IRC.
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> martin: Dazed, confused, and aggravated. :)
[03:53] <beefsprocket> martin: outside, in teh sunshine, enjoying life
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh.
[03:53] <beefsprocket> meeting women even
[03:53] <confused> haha
[03:53] <martin> Both true really.
[03:53] <martin> Oh dear. Time for bed.
[03:53] <beefsprocket> always that
[03:53] <tic_> beefsprocket: could you spell it out for me cause I'm all rusty in irc
[03:53] <confused> archangel_: sometimes I just wanna punch something when it doesnt go my way in Kubuntu :(
[03:53] <tic_> beefsprocket: was trying to get my client to log me in but no
[03:54] <archangel_> confused: tell me about it       lol
[03:54] <archangel_> confused:  look how many people are in this room----->
[03:55] <archangel_> confused: look how many people are helping
[03:55] <archangel_> confused: lol
[03:55] <confused> oh I know.. I used to be an op in a certain channel and like 0 people did anything :\ it was annoying
[03:55] <beefsprocket> tic_ if you are registered, try /msg nickserv recover
[03:56] <beefsprocket> nice
[03:56] <sdlnxgk> need help PEEPS !!! no sound with digital speakers
[03:56] <archangel_> Good luck, brother
[03:56] <archangel_> lol
[03:57] <confused> archangel_: id hate for you not to get any help from anyone :) you might be the archangel of death :(
[03:57] <archangel_> see ya in Ubuntu
[03:58] <archangel_> lol, yeah ......................  boo!
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> I answer the questions I can answer, I don't know enough to help either of you.
[03:58] <confused> archangel_: im going bye bye :( I just left there
[03:58] <confused> good luck :) <3
[03:59] <archangel_> thanx dude
[03:59] <archangel_> take care
[03:59] <archangel_> look me up whenever
[04:00] <McScruff> hi, my atheros wlan card was working when i installed kubuntu , i updated now it doesnt appear ...
[04:00] <McScruff> pls help
[04:01] <sdlnxgk> archangel it's the thought that counts
[04:01] <sdlnxgk> I know allot but damn can't find the digital settings for sound blaster
[04:01] <sdlnxgk> maybe linux can't run digital speakers
[04:03] <xylus__> theirs nothing linux cant do
[04:03] <xylus__> it all depends on how u tell it to do what u want it to
[04:04] <GlassCasket> How can I add the alternate CD to my repository?
[04:04] <xylus__> what do u mean glass
[04:04] <xylus__> you want to have all the files accessable in your repository?
[04:05] <GlassCasket> xylus__: Yes, because I don't have to internet yet
[04:05] <sdlnxgk> xylus  I hear ya  but can't seem to find where to tell linux to use digital speakers anywhere
[04:07] <GlassCasket> Anyone?
[04:08] <kalinda> !cmatrix
[04:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about cmatrix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:08] <kalinda> darn
[04:08] <GlassCasket> !repository
[04:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> GlassCasket: try 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Naturally make sure the alternate CD is in the drive before you run that. ;)
[04:09] <GlassCasket> Thank you, I'll have to twy that.
[04:10] <GlassCasket> I did it yesterday without the command line, but forgot how.
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> GlassCasket: Not sure what you did either, but it's easier for me to give you a command for the terminal than explain a GUI process. :)
[04:11] <GlassCasket> True. :)
[04:12] <xylus_> hey guys wana know something pimp about linux?
[04:12] <xylus_> youll never have to power down yr comp due to a crash
[04:12] <xylus_> XD
[04:12] <xylus_> hey glass did you find what you were lookin for?
[04:13] <xylus_> my its quiet here tonight
[04:13] <ironfroggy> will a laptop use less battery power if not running X?
[04:13] <xylus_> no im on a laptop
[04:13] <ironfroggy> xylus_: that is so bogus.
[04:13] <xylus_> dosent matter
[04:13] <xylus_> lol not bogus ;)
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> xylus_: Um, I've had to do that. :P
[04:13] <ironfroggy> wait, what are you talking abot? what does you being on a laptop have with anything?
[04:13] <xylus_> lol
[04:13] <xylus_> realy?
[04:13] <ironfroggy> yeah software sucks. it crashes. a lot.
[04:14] <xylus_> shaft
[04:14] <xylus_> no i mean i use a laptop too
[04:14] <xylus_> and i know for a fact
[04:14] <xylus_> power is power
[04:14] <xylus_> dosent matter what interface your working with
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> ironfroggy: I'm not really sure, I'd imagine that if you killed X you would save some battery power.
[04:14] <ironfroggy> different usage patterns use power differently.
[04:14] <ironfroggy> for example, ive recently taken to keeping swap disabled and its given me about 50% more battery time.
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> At least, if you used CLI equivilants to the program's you're running. If you kill X and start compiling, you'll use more battery than if you just browse the web with X.
[04:14] <Sublime> Tm_T- you around?
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> xylus_: Yeah, I was mucking around with wireless, and I got a kernel panic.
[04:15] <ironfroggy> I intend to use CLI for writing code in vim and maybe playing some nethack and Go.
[04:16] <ironfroggy> xylus_: also, enjoy what happens with klauncher dies in some way that prohibits another isntance from being run to replace it. there are lots of ways a system can become unusable and repaired with a reboot.
[04:17] <_Sublime_> abattoir- you there?
[04:18] <ironfroggy> anyway, im trying to figure out how to stretch my typical 1.5 hour battery life over a three day camping trip in the mountains. any suggestions?
[04:18] <abattoir> _Sublime_: yes...
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> ironfroggy: Maybe something like this? http://geektechnique.org/index.php?id=236
[04:20] <xylus_> oh btw on freenode do you need a eggdrop to host a perm server?
[04:22] <ironfroggy> CheeseBurgerMan: im leaving tomorrow!
[04:22] <xylus_> hey anyone know if u can get a snes emulator for linux?
[04:22] <xylus_> i wana put some games on here
[04:22] <xylus_> :)
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> ironfroggy: OK then, it's simple. Use the laptop for 30 minutes each day. ;)
[04:23] <xylus_> better yet anyone know of any decent games for linux?
[04:23] <xylus_> i tryed americas army but it runs like a pile of dung
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> xylus_: blobwars is pretty fun.
[04:23] <xylus_> blobwars
[04:23] <xylus_> whats that cheese?
[04:23] <xylus_> like worms?
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/blobWars.php
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, not like worms.
[04:24] <ironfroggy> maybe i should run the liveCD all weekend so i dont use the harddrive? should save me bundles of power, especially coupled with running everything on the console.
[04:30] <xylus__> yo cheese
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello.
[04:31] <xylus__> how do i change the font size of stuff thats in a window
[04:31] <xylus__> like inside a directory
[04:31] <xylus__> mines like wayyyyyyyyy too big
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Konqueror > Settings > Fonts?
[04:31] <xylus__> tryed that
[04:31] <xylus__> lol
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Fonts ?
[04:33] <proudfoot___> why does ark sometimes say it cannot start a subprocess?
[04:33] <proudfoot___> when I'm trying to extract files from a dvd to harddrive
[04:33] <fyrmedic> If I install ubuntu from adept under kubuntu will I have issues after the install
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> fyrmedic: I assume by 'ubuntu' you mean Gnome.
[04:34] <fyrmedic> yeah
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> You shouldn't. I did it, and have no issues. :)
[04:34] <beefsprocket> what's the error tic_ ?
[04:35] <fyrmedic> and how hard is it to bounce between kde and gnome
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> fyrmedic: Not hard. When you log out, you click on the 'Session' menu and then choose 'Gnome'.
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> at least, that's what you do in KDM. I assume it's similar in GDM.
[04:36] <fyrmedic> ok thanks
[04:36] <roger_> good God, FireFox is not installed
[04:37] <xylus_> omg im such a idiot
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> roger_: It's easy enough to install.
[04:37] <xylus_> knoquer settings fontsize in their!
[04:37] <xylus_> thats the only font adjustment i forgot to make when i installed kbun lolz
[04:38] <fyrmedic> Speaking of firefox... Where do I need to unzip the install package for my firefox upgrade?
[04:38] <nubster> hello
[04:38] <nubster> can someone gimme a hand installing gcc?
[04:38] <ticless> beefsprocket: again how did I registre to the nickserv?
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> nubster: What have you done?
[04:39] <ticless> beefsprocket: argh it says I'm already registred
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> nubster: I believe that 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' should instal gcc.
[04:41] <roger_> what kind of instant messenger do you guys recommend?
[04:41] <roger_> kopete? gaim?
[04:41] <abattoir> roger_: kopete?
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> abattoir: the KDE default messenger.
[04:42] <beefsprocket> ticless: what's the error?
[04:42] <wckdkl0wn> did they ever figure out how to view webcams on those?
[04:42] <abattoir> CheeseBurgerMan: yes, i know... i was suggesting that :P
[04:42] <ticless> beefsprocket: when running fglrxinfo I get ALOT of errors looks like opengl errors
[04:42] <abattoir> but his message came just before mine, so it looks like i was asking in response to his second question, rather than his first :)
[04:43] <beefsprocket> ticless: good test is fgl_glxgears
[04:43] <ticless> beefsprocket: like [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for BindFramebufferEXT
[04:43] <beefsprocket> ticless: is there anything there about shm and permissions perchance?
[04:43] <ticless> check my screen for details
[04:43] <beefsprocket> k
[04:43] <ironfroggy> is there any settings i can fiddle with to reduce the harddrive usage?
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> abattoir: hehe, yes it did. ;)
[04:43] <beefsprocket> ticless: your vnc is down
[04:44] <beefsprocket> check mine, I'll show you what to do
[04:44] <ticless> try now
[04:44] <ticless> got it
[04:44] <ticless> check this out
[04:45] <wckdkl0wn> what would i use to burn bin/cue files?
[04:45] <wckdkl0wn> k3b?
[04:45] <roger_> how do I install firefox?
[04:45] <roger_> add/remove programs?
[04:45] <wckdkl0wn> or will nero linux do it?
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> roger_: 'sudo apt-get install firefox' should work.
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> roger_: Or you can go to mozilla.com and download it.
[04:46] <roger_> i downloaded it from mozilla. plenty of missing libraries
[04:46] <Healot> get libgtk+
[04:47] <wckdkl0wn> i jusyt installed it yesterday with sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:47] <roger_> doing it :)
[04:47] <roger_> it should've been included though
[04:48] <beefsprocket> ticless: we've made progress though
[04:48] <beefsprocket> just have to try restarting and hope else you'll have to google those couple of errors
[04:49] <ticless> oki I have seen them in some howto
[04:49] <ticless> I'll restart x
[04:49] <beefsprocket> good
[04:49] <beefsprocket> k
[04:53] <wckdkl0wn> can i mount a bin file instead of burning it?
[04:53] <beefsprocket> how we doing tic_ ?
[04:54] <tic_> beefsprocket: ohh not perfect
[04:54] <beefsprocket> that's bad ?
[04:54] <tic_> beefsprocket: stille the same
[04:54] <beefsprocket> damn
[04:54] <tic_> beefsprocket: it says libGL version does not match - OpenGL module is using glapi fallback
[04:54] <beefsprocket> well, what's the error
[04:54] <beefsprocket> ok
[04:56] <beefsprocket> what do you get with dmesg |grep fglrx
[04:58] <tic_> beefsprocket: only error I see is: [fglrx:drm_parse_option]  *ERROR* "agplock" is not a valid option
[04:58] <tic_> beefsprocket: and a lot of  [<e0be4d3e>]  firegl_takedown+0x60e/0xc60 [fglrx] 
[04:59] <macd> what comand is it that shows the ubuntu specific version?
[05:01] <proudfoot___> hey
[05:01] <proudfoot> whats the equivalent of task manager
[05:01] <proudfoot> in kubuntu?
[05:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> KSysGuard
[05:02] <proudfoot> thanks
[05:02] <ticless> beefsprocket: I cant recover myself it says :)
[05:02] <ticless> beefsprocket: checing
[05:03] <beefsprocket> ok
[05:03] <ticless> beefsprocket: no I dont have the line
[05:03] <ticless> beefsprocket: do I add it and why?
[05:04] <beefsprocket> yeah, add it, it lets fglrx access shared memory
[05:04] <TehUni> i installed kubuntu, then windows. My mbr now points to windows. If i reinstall kubuntu over the old one, will grub see the windows install and let me choose at boot time?
[05:04] <beefsprocket> once you add it, do sudo mount -a
[05:04] <beefsprocket> you might not have to reboot
[05:05] <wckdkl0wn> kaffiene doesnt have sound with a vcd but has sounds with a dvd
[05:05] <wckdkl0wn> what gives?
[05:06] <ticless> beefsprocket: done but the same when I run fglrxinfo
[05:07] <beefsprocket> ticless: what's the output of just "mount"
[05:07] <beefsprocket> is /dev/shm mounted ?
[05:07] <ticless> beefsprocket: yes: devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:08] <beefsprocket> ticless: it should say tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs
[05:08] <beefsprocket> try umount /dev/shm ? not sure if that is safe though, reboot might be better
[05:08] <ticless> beefsprocket: oh there two tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) wops
[05:08] <beefsprocket> my running fglrx system says tmpfs
[05:09] <beefsprocket> oh
[05:09] <beefsprocket> fglrxinfo says what now?
[05:09] <ticless> boom
[05:09] <beefsprocket> worx?
[05:10] <ticless> no as in alot of [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS
[05:11] <beefsprocket> ticless: let me check my libgl.so.1.2 file
[05:12] <ticless> beefsprocket: ehh I don't even have a libgl.so anymore :)
[05:13] <beefsprocket> ticless: is your /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 a symlink to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 ?
[05:13] <ticless> how da..
[05:13] <beefsprocket> case, libGL no libgl :)
[05:13] <ticless> oh..pyyh
[05:14] <ticless> libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2
[05:14] <beefsprocket> size ?
[05:14] <ticless> 12 bytes
[05:14] <ticless> for the sl
[05:14] <beefsprocket> and of so.1.2 ?
[05:14] <beefsprocket> 628K ?
[05:15] <ticless> 642476 bytes to be exact
[05:15] <beefsprocket> ack, that's the same as mine
[05:15] <ticless> so thats about 628
[05:16] <beefsprocket> vnc ?
[05:16] <ticless> ready
[05:16] <beefsprocket> or I'll keep checking my system
[05:16] <beefsprocket> ok
[05:17] <DaSkreech> xylus_: Get outta here!
[05:17] <kameronk> @ DaSkreech haha
[05:18] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Hey hey
[05:19] <jmichaelx> does anyone in here have experience with broadcom wireless cards?
[05:19] <TrippingOnSugar> !wireless
[05:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:19] <jmichaelx> i realize they can be a pain
[05:20] <dr_willis> wireless is a pain. :)
[05:20] <jmichaelx> yeah lol
[05:20] <jmichaelx> well, i had this card working with kubuntu, but i had to reinstall.... this time i can't get it to work
[05:20] <ticless> beefsprocket: it does but why is there never an answer when needed :)
[05:21] <abattoir> jmichaelx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:21] <beefsprocket> ticless: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033 someone has a working libgl.so.1.2 apparently
[05:21] <beefsprocket> ticless: it might have something to do with still having restricted-modules
[05:21] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i followed those instructions a few times, and they never worked for me
[05:22] <ticless> beefsprocket: okay
[05:22] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:22] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Try that one then
[05:22] <abattoir> jmichaelx: wait a few mins. if you can... brb
[05:22] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, i will be in and out, too
[05:23] <ticless> beefsprocket: do you think I should try overwriting libGL?
[05:23] <beefsprocket> yeah, back it up first of course
[05:23] <beefsprocket> sounds like it worked for a lot of people
[05:24] <beefsprocket> do you have a dri section at the end of your xorf.conf?
[05:25] <roger_> is BitchX still popular?
[05:25] <crimsun> sure.
[05:25] <ticless> beefsprocket: yes
[05:25] <Hawkwind> roger_: Some what.  Majority seem to prefer irssi
[05:25] <beefsprocket> hmm, just making sure
[05:26] <ticless> beefsprocket: it only says: Mode         0666
[05:26] <TrippingOnSugar> BitchX FTW
[05:26] <beefsprocket> that's correct
[05:29] <osiris> TrippingOnSugar, irssi FTW, imho
[05:29] <ticless> beefsprocket: JAAA
[05:29] <beefsprocket> w00t!
[05:29] <ticless> now fglrx
[05:29] <beefsprocket> fgl_glxgears
[05:29] <ticless> shows the ati driver :)
[05:30] <beefsprocket> I think it was slow because I was watching
[05:31] <ticless> beefsprocket: oki
[05:31] <beefsprocket> try now
[05:31] <ticless> :) this vnc fooks me up
[05:31] <beefsprocket> I'm disconnected
[05:31] <beefsprocket> so strange
[05:31] <ticless> argh 200 fps
[05:31] <beefsprocket> that's better
[05:31] <ticless> sweeter
[05:31] <beefsprocket> ppracer now, then your custom proggy
[05:32] <ticless> beee
[05:32] <ticless> beefsprocket: I'll try it out...
[05:33] <ticless> beefsprocket: ppracer runs smooth
[05:33] <beefsprocket> beautiful
[05:33] <beefsprocket> sounds like you're good to go
[05:33] <ticless> beefsprocket: this is great now I can get back to development
[05:33] <beefsprocket> schwing
[05:34] <ticless> beefsprocket: thank you very very much, your my man man
[05:34] <beefsprocket> np dude, glad it worked
[05:34] <beefsprocket> now about that tuborg ?
[05:34] <beefsprocket> heh
[05:34] <ticless> beefsprocket: I'm deffently owing you a beer
[05:35] <ticless> beefsprocket: nice
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Sweet new Mana world :)
[05:37] <ticless> beefsprocket: you are wellcome :)
[05:38] <ticless> beefsprocket: I just tried adding you to my msn
[05:39] <beefsprocket> worked
[05:41] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Where were the docs on building Ubuntu packages?
[05:41] <abattoir> DaSkreech: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[05:42] <abattoir> jmichaelx: around?
[05:42] <DaSkreech> THanks
[05:42] <abattoir> DaSkreech: :)
[05:45] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ping me when you are back.
[05:46] <Generic> I have my 32-bit kubuntu mounted
[05:46] <Generic> and i wanted to grab the settings for the sidebar i have in it
[05:46] <Generic> whereabouts would those be located?
[05:46] <abattoir> Generic: metabar?
[05:47] <abattoir> should be in ~/.kde/share/config.. or ~/.kde/share/apps/<nameofapp>
[05:47] <Generic> and the sidebar should load next time i boot into 64?
[05:47] <abattoir> Generic: if you copy it and paste it correctly, yes...
[05:48] <Generic> awesome
[05:48] <abattoir> Generic: you arent copying the entire folder right? :P
[05:48] <Generic> heh
[05:48] <Generic> nah
[05:48] <Generic> no need to get that crazy
[05:48] <abattoir> hehe, ok :)
[05:48] <abattoir> actually, if you have an identical installation, that should work too :)
[05:48] <Generic> hmm
[05:48] <Generic> maybe i'll do that instead of filtering out the files i need >_>
[05:49] <Generic> I'll just backup all pre-existing files
[05:49] <abattoir> Generic: same version of KDE in both?
[05:51] <Generic> Yup
[05:51] <abattoir> Generic: if you have the same applications installed, give it a shot... especially when everything is backed up and you have nothing to worry about :)
[05:51] <Generic> heh
[05:52] <Generic> will do
[05:52] <abattoir> i'd expect it to work though
[05:52] <Generic> yeah, it should
[05:52] <jmichaelx> abattoir: back
[05:52] <Generic> key word is should
[05:52] <Generic> :p
[05:52] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, there are two routes, using the bcm43xx module that comes w/ the dapper kernel, or ndiswrapper
[05:52] <abattoir> which did you use before?
[05:52] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i was using ndiswrapper
[05:53] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, good, then you want to do that now too right?
[05:53] <Generic> woo
[05:53] <Generic> it worked
[05:53] <abattoir> Generic: nice :)
[05:53] <jmichaelx> some have complained that when using the OS driver the wireless connection is slow
[05:54] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, i want to get ndiswrapper going again
[05:54] <Generic> although, i need to install kde theme manager >.<
[05:54] <Generic> and grab the files out of that folder too >_>
[05:54] <abattoir> jmichaelx: yes, i have problems w/ the bcm43xx mod too, so i use ndiswrapper
[05:54] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, then we have to remove that module, and make sure it is not loaded in the future
[05:54] <abattoir> type 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx'
[05:55] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you have 'ndiswrapper-utils' installed?
[05:55] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes
[05:56] <abattoir> jmichaelx: and you have loaded the driver?
[05:56] <abattoir> *installed, rather
[05:56] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, i downloaded it from the dell website
[05:56] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok so 'sudo ndiswrapper -l' says driver present hardware present right?
[05:57] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes
[05:57] <abattoir> jmichaelx: good, now did you do 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx' ?
[05:57] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yep
[05:57] <abattoir> jmichaelx: type this 'echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'
[05:58] <abattoir> jmichaelx: this makes sure the bcm43xx module is not loaded at startup
[05:58] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, done
[05:58] <xylus_> abattoir: sup man
[05:58] <abattoir> jmichaelx: now do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[05:58] <abattoir> xylus_: hello :)
[05:59] <abattoir> jmichaelx: check the output of 'dmesg'... see if it loaded successfully
[05:59] <xylus_> i just geared up a snes emulator lol
[05:59] <xylus_> wasent sure one existed for lx
[05:59] <jmichaelx> abattoir: how will i know if it loaded successfully?
[06:00] <xylus_> say you a game abattoir?> know any good lnx games?
[06:00] <abattoir> jmichaelx: no error messages right?
[06:00] <xylus_> game* gamer
[06:00] <xylus_> lol
[06:00] <DaSkreech> What kind of games do you like?
[06:00] <abattoir> xylus_: hmm, i rarely play, but Wolfenstein Enemy Territorry semms to be the buzz around here
[06:00] <jmichaelx> abattoir: no errors, except the firmware missing error, which is good
[06:00] <xylus_> anything that has decent graphics i can play on linux
[06:00] <xylus_> lol
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !games
[06:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:01] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, type 'sudo iwconfig'
[06:01] <DaSkreech> There you go :)
[06:01] <xylus_> skreech! lol sup man
[06:01] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you see wlan0 ?
[06:01] <jmichaelx> abattoir: no
[06:01] <osiris> xylus_, you can play ut2k4 or doom3 under linux
[06:02] <abattoir> DaSkreech: what was that about posterity yesterday? :P
[06:02] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i have lo, eth0 and sit0
[06:02] <DaSkreech> xylus_: Depends on if he likes FPS :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Ha ha You woke up I see
[06:02] <OOD> wine=unlimited possibilities for gaming
[06:02] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, open up /etc/network/interfaces
[06:02] <abattoir> DaSkreech: i'm always awake ;)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> OOD: Really? Can I play Dogs life?
[06:03] <skeeziks> I'm looking for a good Kopete 0.12.1 deb for Kubuntu - anybody have a good source?
[06:03] <jmichaelx> abattoir: opened
[06:03] <OOD> DaSkreech: erm, i meant unlimited possibilites, not unlimited possibilites now :P
[06:03] <OOD> check appdb to see if your program runs in wine
[06:03] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, just to be sure can you pastebin the ndiswrapper relevant bits from dmesg
[06:03] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i wonder what the firmware missing message is about..
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Hee hee :) Good save OOD
[06:04] <DaSkreech> xylus_: So what kind of games do you like?
[06:04] <abattoir> jmichaelx: if its not from ndiswrapper, then must be from bcm43xx, which we unloaded
[06:04] <jmichaelx> abattoir: it is from bcm43xx
[06:05] <abattoir> jmichaelx: old ones, or are they still being printed?
[06:05] <jmichaelx> [17179604.428000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[06:05] <jmichaelx> abattoir: that error came up twice
[06:05] <abattoir> jmichaelx: so it has stopped coming?
[06:05] <jmichaelx> stopped coming?
[06:06] <kameronk> skeeziks, just use the one from apt-get
[06:06] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you still keep getting errors.. or are they from when bcm43xx wasnt unloaded?
[06:06] <xylus_> hm i got dc :(
[06:07] <xylus_> whats last thing u seen me type?
 hm i got dc :(
 whats last thing u seen me type?
[06:07] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i only ran dmesg once, and that error showed up two times in a row
[06:08] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm, ok...
[06:08] <abattoir> jmichaelx: opened up interfaces right?
[06:09] <jmichaelx> i had opened interfaces with nano, but have now closed it
[06:09] <jmichaelx> abattoir: should i open interfaces again?
[06:09] <Generic> well, crap
[06:09] <abattoir> jmichaelx: yes, open it...
[06:10] <jmichaelx> abattoir: opened
[06:10] <abattoir> jmichaelx: and add 'auto wlan0' in one line and 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' in the other
[06:10] <xylus_> skreech you around their cuzin?
[06:10] <abattoir> jmichaelx: if you look, there'd be similar entries, so you'd get it...
[06:10] <jmichaelx> abattoir: that is already there
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Healot: Cute
[06:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, do me a favour, can you tell me what are the options ndiswrapper provides....
[06:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i know -i, -e, -l, what is the other?
[06:11] <jmichaelx> abattoir: how do i check?
[06:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ndisrapper is currently broken here.. so i cant tell for sure
[06:11] <jmichaelx> ahh
[06:12] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ndiswrapper --help ?
[06:12] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i remember an -m
[06:12] <jmichaelx> ok
[06:12] <abattoir> jmichaelx: yes, that's it
[06:12] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Hey hey!!
[06:12] <abattoir> jmichaelx:  do a 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'
[06:12] <xylus_> oh man i gota get a linux coppy of sof
[06:12] <xylus_> brb
[06:12] <abattoir> jmichaelx: that should load ndiswrapper at boot
[06:12] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : hI! sup!?
[06:13] <jmichaelx> abattoir: modprobe config already contains alias directive
[06:13] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: not bad how is Wife and job?
[06:13] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i think i had done that earlier
[06:13] <jmichaelx> abattoir: should i try a reboot?
[06:13] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm, ok, i'm not sure if bcm43xx was unloaded properly, so could you reboot agian?
[06:13] <abattoir> yes, :)
[06:13] <abattoir> *again
[06:13] <jmichaelx> ok, cool, brb
[06:14] <lnxkde> Wife is not wife yet... is a Girl Friend :) but almost wife 5 year relashionship :) and she is in orlando with the sister of her grandmother that is sick.
[06:14] <lnxkde> and Job is going good
[06:14] <lnxkde> not leaving me the money that I want but that is just because I havent worked to much I have been slacking off too much :(
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Ah shame
[06:16] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : yep
[06:16] <lnxkde> today I have done nothing
[06:16] <lnxkde> watching anime
[06:16] <lnxkde> :(
[06:16] <lnxkde> that is my friking distraction
[06:17] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : did you updated to edgy?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Hope they were good ones :)
[06:18] <lnxkde> Eureka Seven :D
[06:18] <intelikey> lnxkde   it's irc.
[06:18] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, wireless does not show up in network settings
[06:18] <lnxkde> intelikey hum?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: No I haven't been around my computer long enough to set it up
[06:18] <DaSkreech> I guess I will soon though
[06:18] <intelikey> distraction
[06:18] <intelikey> nm
[06:18] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Thumbs up then :-)
[06:18] <lnxkde> intelikey true
[06:19] <abattoir> jmichaelx: could you pastebin 'dmesg | grep ndiswrapper' ?
[06:19] <jmichaelx> abattoir: will do, brb
[06:19] <abattoir> jmichaelx: also 'dmesg | grep bcm' ... if it different than the ndiswrapper o/p
[06:19] <skeeziks> kameronk: They've got a 0.12.1 version now?
[06:19] <abattoir> *it's
[06:20] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : I installed edgy, is prety stable I must say to be pre alpha but still I went back to dapper because I keep my job info in my pc
[06:20] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Smart man :-)
[06:20] <DaSkreech> I want to chroot or have a new partition
[06:20] <hulk_> hi all
[06:21] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : new partition is nice :)
[06:21] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : be back in 20 minutes
[06:21] <lnxkde> wel 15
[06:21] <Chetwin> Man this blows SUSE10.1 AND SLED10 away
[06:21] <lnxkde> well*
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Ok
[06:21] <lnxkde> gona take a showed
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ha;f way through an anime :)
[06:21] <OOD> Chetwin: what does?
[06:21] <lnxkde> I smelll like if something died on me
[06:21] <lnxkde> shower time
[06:22] <OOD> don't forget the rubber ducky :P
[06:22] <Chetwin> Kubuntu
[06:22] <jmichaelx> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18984
[06:22] <hulk_> hello all i am new to linux and i was wondering what "freenode" is?
[06:23] <xylus__> !mirc
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about mirc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:23] <xylus__> !fserv
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about fserv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:23] <xylus__> :(
[06:23] <hulk_> k
[06:23] <hulk_> thx
[06:23] <lnxkde-shower> hulk_ freenode is were all we gather and talk about showering :)
[06:23] <DaSkreech> hulk_: freenode is the servers that the IRC channels are hosted on
[06:23] <OOD> mirc? why would you need that?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> hulk_: It's a really big Web site :)
[06:23] <Chetwin> O0D: windows
[06:23] <xylus__> i want an irc cliant for linux that has fserv support
[06:24] <hulk_> thx for replys
[06:24] <jmichaelx> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18985
[06:24] <lnxkde-shower> lol I off to it :D
[06:24] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, ndiswrapper doesnt load the driver properly....
[06:24] <jmichaelx> abattoir: hmm
[06:24] <OOD> xylus__:http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5112
[06:24] <Chetwin> So i tried installing my fglrx drivers today...
[06:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you can first try to remove the driver and install it again...
[06:25] <Chetwin> It worked, but kde was SCREWY
[06:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: same driver you used before?
[06:25] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am not sure, but i think so
[06:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok do a 'sudo ndiswrapper -e...' and install the driver again..
[06:26] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok brb
[06:26] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok
[06:27] <intelikey> maybe you can't build 2.6.15  as k6-II  ???  the option is there but it goes all the way through the make an still no vmlinux or bzimage   and no  arch/k*    anyone  pointers ?
[06:27] <crimsun> intelikey: a ``make bzImage''?
[06:27] <hulk_> how do u connect to dcc?
[06:28] <eXCeSS> !fsck
[06:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about fsck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:28] <intelikey> crimsun with no arch/k* dir ?
[06:28] <crimsun> intelikey: which arch/k* are you referring to?
[06:28] <alagran> I can't get the title bar when I have compiz running.
[06:28] <intelikey> crimsun i'm willing to try it...  in the build tree
[06:29] <crimsun> intelikey: vanilla (plain kernel.org) or ubuntu source?
[06:29] <jmichaelx> abattoir: it does not want to let me remove the driver.... when i -e the driver, it say it is not there, but when i ndiswrapper -l, it shows up
[06:29] <intelikey> there is arch/i?86     ubuntu source
[06:30] <hulk_> anyone have lady in the water?
[06:30] <abattoir> jmichaelx: did you manually remove /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 by any chance?
[06:30] <jmichaelx> abattoir: it is possible, i have tried a lot of things
[06:31] <abattoir> jmichaelx: or manually remove / edit something else?
[06:31] <crimsun> hulk_: um, I think you asked in the wrong channel?
[06:31] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmmm.. i wonder what exactly happened...
[06:31] <jmichaelx> abattoir: good question
[06:31] <hulk_> how do i change channels?
[06:31] <crimsun> intelikey: I'll need to pull the source, sec please
[06:31] <hulk_> sorry for being a noob
[06:31] <abattoir> jmichaelx: what did you do? :P
[06:31] <crimsun> intelikey: also, dapper or edgy?
[06:31] <abattoir> hulk_: /join <nameofchannel>
[06:31] <intelikey> crimsun i'm trying to get framebuffering to work and at the same time building in ext# fs and scsi support  (root is on sda1 ext3)  so i wont need the initramfs.img   but as of yet...
[06:31] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i wish i could tell you lol
[06:31] <intelikey> crimsun dapper
[06:32] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hehe...
[06:32] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i have installed and removed ndiswrapper a few times
[06:32] <hulk_> im off
[06:32] <hulk_> thanks and gnite all
[06:33] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i installed it the first time with automatix, last time with apt-get
[06:33] <jmichaelx> if that makes any difference
[06:33] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmmm, that shouldnt be causing all this...
[06:33] <jmichaelx> yeah
[06:34] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok... check if you have /etc/ndiswrapper
[06:34] <intelikey> crimsun i did the make menuconfig and selected k6  set the frame buffering and ext3 and scsi and my cards module to all be compiled in  and then did the   make  and it finished no errors  (lots of warnings but no errors)   but there is  no  arch/k??? subdir  and make install errors out...
[06:34] <abattoir> jmichaelx: under that bcmwl5? and under that some files?
[06:35] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i nanoed /etc/ndiswrapper ... nothing there
[06:35] <intelikey> crimsun i expected an arch/k6  or k6*  but nothing.
[06:35] <alagran> I can't get the title bar when I have compiz running.
[06:35] <abattoir> jmichaelx: its a folder...
[06:35] <jmichaelx> ahh
[06:36] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : now I am clean :D
[06:36] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, bcmwl5
[06:36] <jmichaelx> and files
[06:36] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm... ok... wait a sec
[06:37] <lnxkde> talking about cleaning I have been cleaning my 160 GIG partition tha tis full of anime and Linux stuff
[06:37] <lnxkde> I am saving almost 20 DVDs full of crap
[06:38] <lnxkde> the other things were just rm -rf /media/media-hd/crap/
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Thank goodness!
[06:38] <lnxkde> lol
[06:39] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i'm tempted to ask you to remove /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5, but tbh, i dont exactly know what you've done, hence dont know what to suggest
[06:39] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i cannot tell you exactly, i followed several different sets of instructions i found in forums
[06:39] <lnxkde> DaSkreech so what have you been doing?
[06:40] <jmichaelx> all involving ns=diswrapper
[06:40] <jmichaelx> ndiswrapper*
[06:40] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Practicing being sick
[06:41] <abattoir> jmichaelx: this is the xp driver?
[06:41] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i assume so
[06:41] <abattoir> jmichaelx: is there one for an earlier version of windows?
[06:41] <lnxkde> DaSkreech you got sick? or you have been trying to get off the job?
[06:41] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i can loom again, but i think this was the nly driver dell had on their site
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Both!
[06:41] <jmichaelx> look*
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Nice Timing eh?
[06:42] <lnxkde> lol
[06:42] <lnxkde> well that happens
[06:43] <abattoir> jmichaelx: found this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140214&page=2, look at the last post
[06:43] <lnxkde> but that is really bad aha getting of the job and getting sick.. so no party time :(
[06:43] <abattoir> jmichaelx: or you could try bcm43xx
[06:44] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i will try the instructions you just gave me and report back tomorrow night lol
[06:44] <jmichaelx> i had better go to bed, thanks a lot for the help!
[06:44] <abattoir> jmichaelx: heh, ok :)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: I'll live
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Plus I like work :(
[06:44] <abattoir> i wonder why broadcom cards in dell laptops always are troublesome....
[06:45] <lnxkde> I dont remember what you work is
[06:45] <jmichaelx> good night all/ gue nacht zusammen
[06:45] <lnxkde> ...
[06:45] <jmichaelx> i dunno but they sure are
[06:45] <lnxkde> lol
[06:45] <jmichaelx> night!
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Programming
[06:45] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: Night!
[06:45] <abattoir> jmichaelx: good night
[06:45] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : I see
[06:46] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : hope you get right soon :)
[06:46] <lnxkde> well*
[06:46] <lnxkde> my english really sucks....
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Well Going back to work tomorrow
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Been off for two weeks
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Been "off" for two weeks
[06:47] <lnxkde> wow that is a lot
[06:47] <lnxkde> what did you had? a big bad flu?
[06:47] <Healot> summer break eh?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:48] <DaSkreech> I just work from home really
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Miss my Linux Box though :(
[06:48] <lnxkde> :(
[06:49] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : well good day on work tomorow :)
[06:49] <lnxkde> I have to go now :(
[06:49] <DaSkreech> New episode? :)
[06:49] <lnxkde> I have to be up tomorow at 8 I have to be in the office at 9:30am  and it is 1am here
[06:49] <intelikey> i went for food.   if crimsun comes back before i do.
[06:50] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : I have 2gigs of anime and 4 gig of japanese drama
[06:50] <lnxkde> :)
[06:50] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Night Say hi to the "family"
[06:51] <DaSkreech> and two days to watch them in!!
[06:51] <lnxkde> lol
[06:51] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : well I am happy we could chat soemthing today I kind of missed you ;P
[06:52] <lnxkde> well I have to sleep if not tomorw my head ache will kill me and I will have to kill someone to fell better :D ( my Vice President )
[06:52] <Healot> cartoon geeks
[06:53] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Night!!
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Healot: Hey!! I'm a cartoon Nerd!!
[06:53] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : God bless u!!  bye
[07:11] <Healot> MilfhousePunkRock
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Good Morning abattoir, aegeanlinux, DaSkreech, emonkeylap, Healot, intelikey, ironfroggy, |lostbyte| and everyone I might have forgotten!
[07:14] <abattoir> hmm, that's a pretty big list :)
[07:14] <intelikey> say jan.
[07:15] <abattoir> Good morning :)
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Before I try to update the kernel, I am having a problem with kdedata-libs
[07:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: you are installing the edgy kernel in dapper...?
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> That was the plan, abattoir...
[07:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: that's definitely not recommended :)
[07:16] <Chetwin> I can't install java for the life of me
[07:16] <Chetwin> Someone help!
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I am aware of the risk...
[07:16] <aegeanlinux> Good morning MilhousePunkRock
[07:16] <jason> sup all
[07:16] <abattoir> i wonder if it is even possible :)
[07:16] <aegeanlinux> WB my dear friend ;)
[07:17] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: due to dependencies and stuff
[07:17] <Chetwin> !java
[07:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Ignite said it was...
[07:17] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:17] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, try it if you want :)
[07:17] <jason> looking for a decent irc channel for 80's music or those in their 30's
[07:17] <jason> any suggestions
[07:17] <abattoir> jason: try /list and search
[07:17] <jason> thanz
[07:18] <intelikey> apt-get install java-common
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Dependencies is a good key word... Adept updater says kdelibs-data is upgradeable, but it fails everytime
[07:18] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Cool I didn't even say hi personally
[07:18] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Hi!!
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> I was looking for familiar names on the list, DaSkreech
[07:19] <abattoir> DaSkreech: what's your take on him installing(or trying to install, rather) an edgy kernel in dapper?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:20] <intelikey> why not grab the source and roll your own ?
[07:20] <intelikey> disreguard previous...
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: are you referring to the kernel or the kdelibs-data?
[07:21] <intelikey> no.   not at all....  :)
[07:21] <ubuntu> hi
[07:21] <intelikey> i didn't say nothing.
[07:21] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Umm YMMV?
[07:21] <intelikey> forget you even read that...
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> lol intelikey
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> I mean, if I _try_ to install the kernel, Grub will still let me use my current ones, or not?!?!
[07:22] <ubuntu> i have dsl distro when i login i can not start x in nvedia driver
[07:22] <intelikey> this conversation never took place.    do i make my self clear souldar ?
[07:22] <jason> gosh not having much luck looking for those interested in 80's music
[07:23] <ubuntu> i have geforce msi
[07:23] <DaSkreech> jason: Honestly Freenode is not where you should be looking
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: I think you need to install the nvidia driver outside of X...
[07:23] <jason> any suggestions?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Try Efnet or Dalnet
[07:23] <jason> how?
[07:23] <intelikey> 80's music.... pfft.
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> !nvidia > ubuntu
[07:24] <jason> im using the k chat client
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Kchat?
[07:24] <intelikey>  /server irc.efnet.net
[07:24] <jason> Koncersation
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Konversation, jason?
[07:24] <jason> yup
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Do that Then try /list again in the efnet window
[07:25] <jason> efnet?
[07:25] <jason> where is the efnet window?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> It's a different server
[07:25] <intelikey> /server irc.efnet.net
[07:25] <jason> how do I get a different server window?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Should be a new tab
[07:25] <jason> btw kubuntu is the best distro I have tried!
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to my inintial problem: What can I do to update kdelibs-data when neither adept nor apt-get upgrade -f kdelibs-data let me do it?
[07:26] <jason> MilhousePunkRoc did you try straight    apt-get?
[07:27] <jason> ok
[07:27] <jason> i see
[07:27] <jason> what about automatix?
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, it's got some dependencies, jason, and does not succeed...
[07:27] <Generic> is it safe to swap my repositories list with these? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Recommended_Dapper_Sources
[07:27] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock if you like forcing things  and breaking things (seems apparent)  use dpkg -i --force-all package-name.deb
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: I think it comes from me upgrading KDE to 3.5.3 from a different repo a while ago, which worked fine... Two days ago I added another repo to get an suspend2 patched kernel... Then it upgraded a lot of stuff, all the KDE things to 3.5.3
[07:29] <aegeanlinux> !thank you
[07:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:29] <wolfmanz> Is there a way to get the programs in the task bar so when you click on them they get indented as in the it looks like its a pushed in button? and can you do this without switching themes?
[07:29] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock better way.  set the repos to edgy and apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade    hehhe that'll put you to the lead of the pack....
[07:31] <jason> is there a better chat client than konversation that will list other servers.... no offense.. I just dont feel like doing stuff that I do at work
[07:31] <intelikey> xchat
[07:31] <jason> thanx that sounds familiar intelikey
[07:31] <intelikey> it has a server list at startup.
[07:32] <jason> kewl
[07:32] <intelikey> and can be called at any time...
[07:32] <jason> I could prolly do it mannually but that seems like work to me
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Generic: Why don't you rather add those and keep the old ones too?
[07:32] <intelikey> unless they have ruined that in the latest ubuntu...  hehhe i haven't tested it in dapper
[07:33] <Generic> MilhousePunkRock, I'm pretty sure some of the repositories in that list are some of the defaults
[07:33] <jason> love adept!!
[07:33] <jason> haha intelikey!
[07:33] <Generic> alright
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Night!
[07:34] <SystematicDub> hey n00b question but I'm trying to find out if my motherboard can boot from an external usb drive.  Could it be a good indicator if on my BIOS boot menu if one of the options is "boot from external usb device"  No brainer but it's an older motherboard and being new I go thru that paranoid will it work bit
[07:35] <Generic> yeah
[07:35] <Generic> check the bios boot options
[07:35] <Generic> if it says external usb device, it can
[07:35] <Generic> or usb mass storage device
[07:35] <SystematicDub> that's what it is
[07:36] <SystematicDub> I'm going off of memory cause the comp I'm booting off is off line right now
[07:36] <SystematicDub> so I can't check
[07:37] <SystematicDub> Thanks Generic
[07:38] <Generic> no problem
[07:41] <Steven_> does anyone here use qtorrent?
[07:47] <intelikey> why am i seeing  "  CC      arch/i386/math-emu/fpu_tags.o "  when compiling an i586 kernel ?
[07:47] <Hikaru79> I recently installed Kubuntu on a partition next to Windows, and let it write the MBR on its own. Now when I select Windows XP from GRUB, I get "NTLDR not found" :( Is this a known issue? Any known workarounds?
[07:48] <Hikaru79> Correction, it wasn't on a partition next to Windows, it was on a hard drive seperate from Windows.
[07:48] <Hikaru79> But on the same computer.
[07:49] <Generic> !flash > me
[07:49] <intelikey> !flash > Generic
[07:49] <Generic> heh
[07:49] <Generic> it worked the first time ;)
[07:49] <intelikey> !does > me   work
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about does  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:49] <Generic> anyone know how to setup flash in 64-bit?
[07:50] <noiesmo> !wifi
[07:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:50] <aegeanlinux> !flash
[07:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <Hikaru79> And I know the partition wasn't damaged because I can still mount it.
[07:50] <kameronk> Generic, you can't use flash in 64 bit
[07:50] <Generic> yes...
[07:50] <Generic> I was once referred to a tutorial while installing it
[07:50] <Generic> but, i was installing it
[07:50] <aegeanlinux> Generic: you have to have a 32bit firefox installed for it ;)
[07:50] <Generic> so i couldn't really bookmark it :/
[07:51] <kameronk> yeah, use wine and the windows version
[07:51] <Generic> that's a little overkill
[07:51] <intelikey> wine in 64bit  works there ?
[07:51] <intelikey> i thought wine needed 32bit
[07:52] <Generic> linux32 FTW!
[07:52] <Generic> oh wait, it doesn't work >_>
[07:52] <Generic> I guess you can compile it from source
[07:57] <timi> im having major problems w/ wlanassistant
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> timi What is it?
[07:57] <timi> well it finds my home network and the signal is great
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> That's good
[07:57] <timi> i put in my WEP and sometimes it works.
[07:58] <timi> usually it wont connect like twice then it will say not connected but in the backgroudn it will be connecte
[07:58] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:58] <timi> now it just says not could not connect over and over again, after working five minutes ago
[07:58] <timi> and the netwrok is in the hows w/ a strong signal
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Weird... Do you have auto .. in your /etc/network.interfaces ?
[07:59] <digibre4k_> '[h[f
[07:59] <timi> i dunno, im not on the linux comp anymore
[07:59] <timi> i mean if i disable my wireless card it tells me it has ben disabled, and it will reable it, it will find my home netwrok, i have the correct wep and it wont connect, with all six stars
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I will post my interfaces on a paste bin, and mark the lines you need to check for... Can you print or save it, timi?
[08:00] <timi> yea i guess i can
[08:00] <Konstable> I can't install anything.  Nothing here likes my AMD64...
[08:01] <Konstable> would an i386 kernel work on an AMD64 processor?
[08:02] <aegeanlinux> Konstable: yes
[08:02] <abattoir> Konstable: sure
[08:04] <Konstable> This is my 5th linux install. And 5th time in a row it doesnt work... I don't think I can be bothered trying a 6th one.
[08:04] <aegeanlinux> Konstable: all the time with a 64 bit install?
[08:04] <timi_> what does connection reset by peer mean
[08:05] <Konstable> No I had a different computer before.
[08:05] <intelikey> timi_ means you killed it.
[08:05] <timi_> ok
[08:05] <abattoir> Konstable: what 'didnt work' ?
[08:05] <intelikey> peer is the user end   host is the server end.
[08:05] <timi_> ah ok
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> timi_: --> http://pastebin.ca/101834
[08:06] <timi_> ok
[08:06] <timi_> thanks ill save it and check later
[08:06] <timi_> linux was starting to give me a headache so i had to quit
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> If you are a "quitter" Linux won't make you happy, I guess...
[08:07] <Konstable> first time, long time ago, I had a "winmodem".  second time the distribution didnt support my USB keyboard and mouse.  third time, during the install it told me that "This install is broken", and I couldnt figure out how to get past it (I guess CD image was corrupted).  fourth time, Ubuntu - CD image was corrupted and it couldnt recover.  fifth time, now, Kubuntu - CD image was corrupted, it fixed itself up, but nothing works on AMD64
[08:07] <intelikey> remote host closed connection generally means your xserver killed the irc client   the little [x]  close the window thingy   but the quit message can also be set with  /quit blah...
[08:08] <abattoir> Konstable: what do you mean 'nothing works', java, flash etc.? there are ways to make it work
[08:08] <FluxLover> Konstable For something to work on 64bit.. you have to compile it to work for it.
[08:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Konstable: It is recommended you do the CD check on the boot prompt before you intend to install it...
[08:08] <FluxLover> Konstable Unless its already set to work for 64bit
[08:08] <timi_> well i wanted to rip a collection but without internet....
[08:08] <abattoir> Konstable: but if you are new, i'd suggest install i386 first
[08:08] <timi_> so i jsut got off figured i get help on this since i dont have net on that one and get back on later
[08:08] <Konstable> Yes, I'm thinking about i386.  But thats another 700MB download and a half hour install process.
[08:09] <FluxLover> Konstable its better if it works the rite way then for it to be working just for you to get by, think of it that way
[08:10] <FluxLover> So do what it takes to get it done rite :)
[08:10] <FluxLover> Its only 30 min
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Back to my "broken" package... I guess I will have to download the .deb prior to the command you gave me earlier?
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Konstable: If you keep on getting broken downloads, check if you RAM might be corrupted...
[08:11] <intelikey> yes and (full or relative) path is needed.
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: I'll look for the appropriate package now...
[08:12] <Konstable> the one that I know was broken for sure, the Ubuntu, was from my university's mirror.  And a friend of mine did a m5 checksum check on that and it turned out that it was their copy that was corrupted in the first place.  And the Debian install which told me "the install was broken" was on an old computer which subsequently blew up (yes...with a bang).
[08:12] <intelikey> i.e. in the same dir  sudo dpkg -i --force-all packag-name.deb           not in the $PWD    sudo dpkg -i --force-all /path/to/package-name.deb
[08:14] <intelikey> blow the end out of a capacitior ???
[08:15] <intelikey> -i
[08:16] <Konstable> intelikey: I'm not exactly sure.  It was getting a lot of corruption all over the place.  Then it kept resetting, the OS died, etc.  I decided to just give it to a friend a buy a new computer.  And that friend said the power box blew up with a bang as soon as he turned it on.
[08:16] <intelikey> OH HELL!  3 hours of compiling to see  this.
[08:16] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/built-in.o: In function `setup_arch': undefined reference to `check_acpi_pci'
[08:16] <intelikey> make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1
[08:18] <intelikey> Konstable sounds like one of the big cans in the ps over heated and blew the end out.     probably ps going bad to begin with that caused all the 'random' erroring.
[08:19] <kosh> power supplies are a leading cause of crashes on boxes of all cases except on windows boxes where you have symantec software installed, in which case that causes crashes more often then the ps does
[08:19] <kosh> however on a windows box without symantec software most crashes will probably be from the power supply
[08:20] <intelikey> kosh i like windows xp by distance
[08:21] <kosh> I am not saying that windows is very good, just that most "stability" problems are not the fault of windows itself
[08:21] <intelikey> the longer the distance from it the better i like it...  :)
[08:21] <kosh> since it still has massive security problems that are its fault
[08:21] <kosh> however from what I have read the 64bit version is a lot more secure, they broke compat with a lot of things and protect kernel memory space more
[08:22] <intelikey> crimsun i'll check back with you on the kernel issue tomarrow.
[08:22] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Adept says kdelibs-data Installed version 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.1 Candidate version 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2
[08:23] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock look with the web browser on the ubuntu.com  site.   find what you need.
[08:23] <intelikey> you can grab packages dirrectly from there.
[08:23] <intelikey> i'm sleep.    later.
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn, intelikey left too quick
[08:25] <blackmesa> anyone who can take a look on a compiling problem a hvae with Mesa?
[08:26] <mysir> god day
[08:26] <mysir> the italian chatt for kubuntu?
[08:26] <abattoir> !it
[08:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:26] <mysir> tks :)
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Did you see what I wrote at 8:22 (my 8:22 that is)?
[08:28] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: about kdelibs?
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, the versions...
[08:28] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: try a dist-upgrade, maybe a new version is out
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I found kdelibs-data (4:3.5.3-1ubuntu9) on the ubuntu site, will that work?
[08:29] <abattoir> !info kdelibs-data
[08:29] <ubotu> kdelibs-data: core shared data for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 6917 kB, installed size 27476 kB
[08:29] <abattoir> !info kdelibs-data edgy
[08:29] <ubotu> kdelibs-data: core shared data for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.3-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 6988 kB, installed size 27676 kB
[08:29] <abattoir> so you took the edgy one...
[08:29] <Generic> I'm setting up 32-bit firefox on my 64-bit install
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> That's what I found... Maybe I can locate the exact one though
[08:30] <abattoir> Generic: how did skype go?
[08:30] <Generic> although, i keep getting this error: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: line 1: libjavaplugin_oji.so: command not found
[08:31] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: exact one? from kubuntu.org repo?
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> The candidate one... I think it's already here, but it fails to install... apt-get upgrade does not download, so I guess I already have it
[08:32] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: then why doesnt it show as Installed?
[08:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, let me get this straight... 'what' asks for kdelibs-data......?
[08:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: the kernel?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> No, adept-updater tells me, there is a newer version
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> But it fails to install, since it can't remove the old one that is used by x-torrent of ktorrent
[08:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, so you havent touched anything yet? w.r.t the new kernel and stuff....?
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: I want to resolve that problem first...
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Once that is done, I will bite the bullet and try the kernel
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I look if the package is already in the cache?
[08:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, ok, i was confused... i thought you had done something by trying to install the kernel
[08:37] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: apt-cache policy kdelibs-data
[08:37] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so you ran 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> not the latter...
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Weird, it says the candidate is in the official kubuntu repo and the one I got KDE 3.5.3 from
[08:39] <abattoir> wait a sec, it says 3.5.4?
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> It does say "Have to fetch 0B of 7097 kB"
[08:40] <abattoir> oh, ok, 3.5.3 it is...
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Let me explain the prerequisites first...
[08:41] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, still i'm a bit dazed, dont know the background properly.... what did you do, and what is the situation.. pleas explain if you can
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> I got KDE 3.5.3 once it was stable, from a different repo... Lately it got a lot of stuff concerning KDE, all Version 3.5.3 (kdm, kate, konqueror, ...)
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> That other stuff came as "available updates"
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> But it fails to get the kdelibs-data in the apropriate version
[08:42] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, form an 'external' one, not kubuntu.org..?
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> I asked for a repo on the german kubuntu channel
[08:44] <wilfredH> hey guys, I have a new blank hd in my box and I want to format it - what do I use?
[08:44] <abattoir> wilfredH: qtparted ?
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: and...?
[08:45] <wilfredH> abattoir: is that a gui or cli app?
[08:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: my guess is the two versions are clashing
[08:45] <abattoir> wilfredH: GUI
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Got KDE from there, worked fine ever since...
[08:46] <wilfredH> abattoir: is that in kubuntu by default or do I have to install it?
[08:46] <galorin> How do I use the WebControl script for Amarok?  I started it, but don't know what to do next.
[08:46] <abattoir> wilfredH: in the livecd? or an install?
[08:46] <wilfredH> abattoir: install
[08:47] <abattoir> wilfredH: i dont think it is present, try executing 'qtparted', see if it loads
[08:47] <abattoir> wilfredH: else 'sudo apt-get install qtparted' should get it installed
[08:47] <abattoir> !info qtparted
[08:47] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: How do I "translate" the apt-get output of the repos into an URL?
[08:48] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ugh, what do you mean? your sources.list must have that info
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Of course with the spaces I can't acces that in Fx, to download the package manually
[08:50] <wilfredH> abattoir: working nicely, thanks
[08:51] <abattoir> wilfredH: np :)
[08:51] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/
[08:52] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: though why you'd want to download the package manually beats me...
[08:52] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: if you have KDE from another source, then it might clash w/ that
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> for that one dpkg command intelikey said earlier
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> but it's kubuntu KDE
[08:53] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: which command... ugh..
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock>  sudo dpkg -i --force-all packag-name.deb
[08:53] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, do whatever you want...
[08:54] <jal_> hola???
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> !es
[08:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:54] <jal_> alguien espaol?
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> !es > jal_
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Is there anyway I can resolve that issue?
[08:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: as far as i can see, the KDE packages you got from the other repo are clashing w/ the KDE packages for kubuntu.org repo
[08:59] <Chetwin> How do I install java
[08:59] <Chetwin> It's not working
[08:59] <abattoir> so remove either of them do an update and a dist-upgrade
[08:59] <abattoir> i'd suggest using the 'official' kubuntu.org repo though
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Consciencely I only got the initial KDE 3.5.3 from the other repo
[09:00] <Chetwin> grrrrr
[09:00] <Chetwin> friggin suse spoiled me
[09:00] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: and then you installed kubuntu.org packages after that?
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: The updater did that automatically
[09:01] <digitalslacker> Chetwin: http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/2006/06/28/install-the-jre-in-debian/
[09:02] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmm, my guess was something wasnt cleaned up properly...
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: It does not let me reinstall the current version, and if I uninstall it wants to remove everything that depends on it... That's pretty much all KDE programs
[09:05] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: try removing that repo, update and dist-upgrade
[09:05] <digitalslacker> Chetwin: you'll want to do the apt-get for JRE in the command line because doing so through Adept or Synaptic could cause problems when it's time to answer a few questions during install
[09:05] <Chetwin> I hea ryou
[09:05] <Chetwin> thanks
[09:05] <Chetwin> I get a bunch of errors
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> where is the sources list?
[09:06] <digitalslacker> Chetwin: what kind of errors?
[09:06] <abattoir>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't want to remove that repo in case I need it again, adept won't let me comment it out
[09:06] <Chetwin> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-06-1 [1334B] 
[09:07] <Chetwin> Fetched 1334B in 0s (5502B/s)
[09:07] <Chetwin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:07] <Chetwin>   Major opcode:  148
[09:07] <Chetwin>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:07] <Chetwin>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:07] <Chetwin> Failed to open device
[09:07] <digitalslacker> I got that error when I first tried too, can't remember for sure exactly how I fixed it
[09:08] <Chetwin> grrr
[09:08] <Hawkwind> Chetwin: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[09:08] <Hawkwind> Chetwin: Read that post on my forums
[09:09] <abattoir> !lfd
[09:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about lfd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:10] <abattoir> Hawkwind: guess they didnt approve it :(
[09:10] <Hawkwind> Guess not, or the bot is forgetful :P
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Same thing, abattoir
[09:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what happens?
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> The error messages are in German, as usual...
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> dpkg-deb Subprocess paste killed with Signal (broken pipes)
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> that would be the translation, I guess, abattoir ^^
[09:19] <digitalslacker> could someone tell me how to get Power Saving to stop turning itself back on whenever X is restarted?
[09:21] <digitalslacker> is that a no?
[09:22] <dlissner> ok i just installed kubuntu and have a couple of questions regarding kde
[09:22] <raphink> digitalslacker: have you tried turning it off in systemsettings?
[09:22] <dlissner> is there anyone here tht can assist me in installing themes?
[09:23] <raphink> dlissner: don't ask if you can ask, just ask your question
[09:23] <digitalslacker> raphink: yes, I turned it off there and through kcontrol, both ways gets reset when X is restarted
[09:23] <raphink> weird
[09:24] <dlissner> ok well raph i am trying to install new themes for kde
[09:24] <raphink> dlissner: what theme?
[09:24] <dlissner> self revolution
[09:24] <dlissner> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42876
[09:25] <raphink> can't even see how it looks like
[09:25] <dlissner> i try to download and after a few kbs it locks up and this kate application opens
[09:25] <raphink> did you download the theme file dlissner?
[09:26] <dlissner> then it does nothing for a few minutes and finnally says
[09:26] <raphink> dlissner: right click on the link and choose save as
[09:26] <dlissner> such and such file is a binary, downloading it will cause it to corrupt
[09:26] <raphink> and call it ... well ... dunno ... selfrevolution.kth
[09:26] <raphink> for ex
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Power Saving is a difficult issue... I am fighting with for days and days already, digitalslacker
[09:26] <dlissner> well ther isn't an option because the link just links to a php file that starts the dl
[09:27] <raphink> dlissner: right click and choose save as and name it selfrevolution.kth
[09:27] <Hawkwind> dlissner: It downloads fine here
[09:27] <raphink> the php script doesn't start the DL imo, it identifies as the file to DL
[09:27] <digitalslacker> MilhousePunkRock: the thing is, I have 2 Dapper systems here. 1 is from a clean install and one is upgraded from Breezy. The upgrade works fine
[09:27] <dlissner> if i try to save as it jsut saves the php file
[09:28] <Hawkwind> dlissner: What web browser, konqueror ?
[09:28] <MilhousePunkRock> digitalslacker: Try researching the config files it needs and compare them on both installations
[09:29] <dlissner> maybe i should install firefox
[09:29] <raphink> why?
[09:29] <dlissner> yeah hawk
[09:29] <dlissner> is firefox on the kubuntu cd?
[09:29] <dlissner> dvd i mean
[09:29] <raphink> konqueror is great :)
[09:29] <Hawkwind> dlissner: I'm using firefox and it downloads fine here
[09:29] <link_36p> Is there any way to incorporate a password into a shell script?
[09:29] <raphink> you don't need the CD/DVD if you hvae internet access dlissner
[09:29] <raphink> link_36p: what for?
[09:30] <dlissner> well the thing is i am on broadband
[09:30] <dlissner> and in windows my speeds are great
[09:30] <dlissner> i start up kubuntu
[09:30] <dlissner> i haven't gotten over 5k a second yet
[09:30] <dlissner> i don't know what the deal it but it just seems to not agree with my connection
[09:30] <link_36p> raphink: Oh i just made a quick script for replacing some files to switch from xgl to just plain X but id rather just be able to execute them without typing in my password every time.
[09:31] <raphink> link_36p: man sudo
[09:31] <raphink> and especially, man sudoers
[09:31] <raphink> :)
[09:31] <link_36p> thx :)
[09:31] <raphink> that will teach you how to gain root priviledgs on some commands without a password
[09:31] <raphink> for a given user
[09:34] <dlissner> well how will i install the theme anyway if I ever get it downloaded?
[09:35] <raphink> dlissner: clik on it in konqueror
[09:35] <raphink> or go to systemsettings, to the appearance section
[09:35] <dlissner> then to style?
[09:35] <raphink> yep
[09:35] <raphink> or theme
[09:36] <dlissner> there is no theme option
[09:36] <dlissner> would import scheme be it?
[09:37] <raphink> import theme
[09:37] <raphink> I gues
[09:37] <link_36p> raphink: if i changed ownership of my xorg.conf file and my kdmrc file that would do the trick to right?
[09:37] <dlissner> nm that's colors
[09:37] <dlissner> k well thanks
[09:38] <raphink> link_36p: no
[09:38] <raphink> link_36p: that'll be he trick to crash X
[09:38] <link_36p> raphink: why?
[09:38] <raphink> link_36p: you should not change ownership of files in the system
[09:38] <andriijas> sudo kate /etc/foo.conf  doesnt work, is it possible to fix so that i can edit config files with kate?
[09:38] <raphink> link_36p: use sudoers
[09:39] <link_36p> raphink: oh ok.
[09:39] <dlissner> i am used to using litestep in windows which i assumed was similar
[09:39] <dlissner> oh i found it by typing kcontrol
[09:39] <raphink> yes dlissner
[09:39] <raphink> it's not in systemsettings somehow
[09:40] <digitalslacker> wow, according to Adept, removing klaptop and a couple other laptop related apps, that means removing 592 packages including everything KDE and XFCE, Firefox, all of the games, and even X server
[09:40] <dlissner> yeah they ought to fix that
[09:40] <andriijas> sudo kate /etc/foo.conf  doesnt work, is it possible to fix so that i can edit config files with kate? please
[09:40] <andriijas> "cannot connect to X server :0.0"
[09:41] <kosh> instead try kdesu kate /etc/foo.conf
[09:41] <kosh> kdesu is for graphical apps, sudo is for cli stuff
[09:42] <andriijas> thx man
[09:46] <dlissner_> hm
[09:47] <cfraz89> hi :)
[09:48] <raphink> hi cfraz89
[09:49] <dlissner> raph is there a way to get rid of the bar on the bottom and such?
[09:49] <cfraz89> hi raphink
[09:50] <raphink> sure dlissner
[09:50] <raphink> click on the bar and choose configure
[09:50] <raphink> then you can auto-hide it
[09:50] <raphink> add another bar
[09:51] <raphink> or multiple ones
[09:51] <raphink> move components to other bars
[09:51] <raphink> etc.
[09:51] <dlissner> increasing my screen resolution seems to do nothing
[09:51] <dlissner> do i have to reboot first?
[09:51] <crazy_penguin> good morning all! :)
[09:51] <RichJ> from irssi, how do i disconnect the screen to get back to a terminal?
[09:52] <raphink> morning crazy_penguin
[09:52] <raphink> dlissner: you never need to reboot unless you change the kernel
[09:52] <raphink> dlissner: but you need to restart X when you change your screen resolution
[09:52] <dlissner> raphink: how do i do that?
[09:52] <bbt> is there an easy way to submit a bug without e-mail subscribing or such ?
[09:52] <raphink> Rich you can use ctrl+alt+Fx, 1 < x < 6 for example :)
[09:52] <abattoir> RichJ: /quit ?
[09:52] <RichJ> gah
[09:52] <raphink> dlissner: ctrl+alt+delete
[09:53] <raphink> backspace I mean
[09:53] <RichJ> abattoir: <-nixternal...edgy updates killed my xserver
[09:53] <dlissner> end current session?
[09:53] <abattoir> RichJ: any errors?
[09:53] <cfraz89> if you use randr you shouldnt have to restart x?
[09:53] <raphink> dlissner: you cvan do that first, then press alt+ctrl+backspace
[09:54] <abattoir> RichJ: i recognise the name :)
[09:54] <RichJ> hehe
[09:54] <abattoir> RichJ: you get errors?
[09:54] <RichJ> ya, all about ATI
[09:55] <digitalslacker> MilhousePunkRock: I think I found a work-around for my power saving issues. I installed kpowersave, configured it, restarted and it appears to be working the way I want
[09:55] <RichJ> did the dpkg-reconfigure, and that has changed big time in edgy
[09:56] <RichJ> there are some messages that are way to informative i think
[09:56] <abattoir> RichJ: nothing about fonts ?
[09:56] <RichJ> i didnt' notice
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> I could have recommended that... KPowersave doesn't help my with my buggy video chip, digitalslacker
[09:56] <link_36p> Does anyone know why my "super" key might now be working?
[09:57] <dlissner> raph it just goes back to normal
[09:57] <Healot> super key? what super key, link_36p?
[09:57] <raphink> dlissner: ah
[09:57] <abattoir> Healot: i think he means the windows key
[09:57] <digitalslacker> MilhousePunkRock: oh, what are you trying to do?
[09:58] <dlissner> is it because of driver support or something?
[09:58] <link_36p> I was calling it the super key because thats how compiz refered to it.
[09:58] <dlissner> in windows i run at a lot higher res.
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Getting suspend to work, digitalslacker
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I already tried a different kernel, but the bug is not solved there...
[09:59] <link_36p> Im using a logitech USB keyboard.
[09:59] <kral> good morning all
[10:00] <digitalslacker> MilhousePunkRock: to my understanding, suspend functionality is buggy in Linux or at least some distros. Not sure why though
[10:00] <dlissner> uh heh what is the deal.
[10:00] <kral> I have a problem in installing kubuntu, can someone help me_
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> digitalslacker: Indeed...
[10:00] <dlissner> i don't think linux is for me
[10:01] <kosh> dlissner: what is the deal with what?
[10:01] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: So, from what I read ^^ above, you havn't had much luck then ?
[10:01] <kosh> dlissner: since most of us are not psychic unless you say what your problem is you are unlikely to get help
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: I am still on it
[10:02] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Don't give up - and when you work it out , email me step-by-step how you did it ; )
[10:02] <dlissner> kosh
[10:03] <kral> when I start to install kubuntu I reach step 3 (choose keyboard layout) and I can't choose because I have an empty list, and there is no way to pass this step... what should I do?
[10:03] <cfraz89> kral: it sounds a little like your cd might be corrupted :)
[10:04] <kral> I made the cd test, and I passed it
[10:04] <aegeanlinux> kral: screaming loudly and banging your head against the wall might help ... if that doesn't work, try it on another machine, and if that doesn'\t work, I think you might need a new CD
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: I figured out it's a bug with my video driver yesterday
[10:04] <aegeanlinux> Coolies, what driver do you use MilhousePunkRock?
[10:04] <kosh> dlissner: well just saying my name won't tell me what your problem is
[10:04] <kral> I tried even on another machine... and it worked...
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> savage, aegeanlinux
[10:04] <cfraz89> hmm
[10:05] <kral> can I send you a screenshot of the problem?
[10:05] <cfraz89> sure
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> I see.
[10:05] <cfraz89> i think i understand what is wrong though
[10:05] <kral> thank you
[10:05] <cfraz89> kral: did you try the alternate cd?
[10:05] <cfraz89> its harder to use, but tends to work more oftern :)
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: IMHO, the best (open source'd code) chip is SIS
[10:05] <Healot> sis?
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> yeah
[10:06] <Healot> VIA imho
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> if you look at http://thinkwiki.org locate the T23 and look at the page for the savage chip, it tells about the bug all the way down to the bottom
[10:06] <kral> I didn't know about an alternate cd
[10:06] <Healot> via nic, via, south bridge, ac97, via's SATA controllers, etc...
[10:06] <aegeanlinux> How is VIA's openGL Healot?
[10:07] <cfraz89> kral: its the older text-based installer
[10:07] <Healot> via doesn't have graphics iirc
[10:07] <cfraz89> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/
[10:07] <kral> cfraz89: that's what I prefear :) do you think I can have text based installer even with this cd?
[10:08] <cfraz89> kral: nope sorry. the livecd only has graphical installer, and the alternate cd only has text installer, no live mode
[10:09] <kral> this is my first time with kubuntu, I always used slackware, so I prefear text based installer :)
[10:09] <Healot> use the alternate install then
[10:09] <cfraz89> thats good. as long as your comfortable with the installer :)
[10:09] <Healot> the previous ubuntu versions used text installer btw
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: But I can't change the onboard video chip in my laptop easily, if at all
[10:10] <aegeanlinux> yeah, I know
[10:10] <kral> ok thank you a lot guys, I'll leave here (I need to go to my workplace for download the cd eheh)
[10:10] <aegeanlinux> your stuck with it :-D
[10:10] <dlissner> kosh: my problem is changing my screen resolution does nothing
[10:10] <aamor> anyone here using ubuntu for Mac?
[10:10] <aegeanlinux> Hey, while I am here, does anyone have an old ~15GB hard drive that they don't want anymore ? If so, please send me a PM ;)
[10:11] <kral> good bye all and thank you again for help
[10:11] <aamor> Anyone?
[10:11] <aegeanlinux> aamor: I have a friend who I gave the ship it live CD to, and he said he could not get it to boot past the KDE loading screen
[10:12] <aamor> I got it to work witht he Intel x86 LiveCD, cause I'm using an intel based mac, but when I install it on the drive it won't boot up at all
[10:12] <aamor> Gets stuck on something called Grub
[10:12] <aegeanlinux> Yeah? Grub is the boot program of *buntu
[10:12] <link_36p> Does anyone know a good GUI tool for keyboad configuration?
[10:12] <Healot> aamor: you need alternative bootloader "elilo"
[10:12] <aamor> elilo?
[10:13] <aamor> I see
[10:13] <Healot> btw EFI-based hardware won't properly boot from HFS partitions
[10:13] <digitalslacker> Firefox 1.5.0.5 was just released an hour or two ago, how long before the repos are updated with it?
[10:13] <aamor> I partitioned it in Fat32
[10:13] <Healot> well, on PPC Macs, that case is way easier...
[10:13] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Probably a while
[10:13] <aegeanlinux> digitalslacker: it was actually released ~5 days ago ;) On Sunday.
[10:13] <aamor> Yea, there's a buntu version for PPC macs
[10:14] <aamor> None for Intel Macs
[10:14] <Healot> yup, inmacs are new
[10:14] <macd_> freenode sure does take forever to pingout old nicks
[10:14] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: It just appeared on the site about 3 - 4 hours ago
[10:14] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: On mozilla.com that is
[10:14] <aamor> So I figured I'd use BootCamp to install it as I did with Windows, got so far as installing it, but Grub wouldn't install the second time
[10:14] <aegeanlinux> i know, but it has been out longer that
[10:14] <Healot> and intel or apple has no interest in gnu/linux for that new platform
[10:14] <aamor> First time I actually wiped my HD and installed it perfectly, but Grub wouldn't work
[10:15] <digitalslacker> aegeanlinux: my Windows PC just updated firefox about an hour ago and the release notes are dated for today
[10:15] <aegeanlinux> its to test for other ppl that there are n o showstoppers
[10:15] <aegeanlinux> digi
[10:15] <aamor> They do have some interest in GNU
[10:15] <aegeanlinux> * digitalslacker I put firefox 1.5.0.5 in my repos Tuesday ;)
[10:15] <dlissner> what are repos?
[10:15] <Healot> aamor: their interest has yet to shine...
[10:16] <digitalslacker> dlissner: repositories
[10:16] <aegeanlinux> When you download something in Adapt
[10:16] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: Can it be added to the sources.list ?
[10:16] <aegeanlinux> you download it from a repository
[10:16] <dlissner> digitalslacker: which are?
[10:16] <aamor> THey have to have some interest considering what OS X is built on...
[10:16] <dlissner> oh ok
[10:16] <aegeanlinux> Hawkwind: I dont use *buntu
[10:16] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: So, repos for what then ?
[10:17] <aegeanlinux> Lets not advertise www.aegeanlinux.be here yay ?
[10:17] <aamor> Healot: so what exactly is Elilo?
[10:17] <dlissner> ok so i downloaded firefox, how do i install it?
[10:18] <kral> hi all again
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> the source or binary dlissner
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> ???
[10:18] <dlissner> bunary i think
[10:18] <dlissner> tar.gz
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> go into a Konsole
[10:18] <digitalslacker> why is auto-update disabled in Firefox even when run under kdesu?
[10:18] <cfraz89> dlissner: you can just extract it and run it :)
[10:18] <kral> one more question: I have an amd64 cpu, is it better to download i386 or amd64 version of kubuntu?
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> cd to the location
[10:18] <dlissner> cani extract it anywhere?
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf ./firefox-1.5.0.5.tar.gz
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> yea
[10:19] <cfraz89> kral: it depends how much effort you are willing to put into making it work :)
[10:19] <cfraz89> or how much you care for performance
[10:19] <kral> uhm... what do you mean?
[10:19] <cfraz89> well
[10:19] <cfraz89> if you install 64 bit version
[10:19] <aamor> Healot?
[10:19] <cfraz89> 32 bit code wont work without emulation
[10:20] <kral> I heard somewhere that 64bit version is a bit slower
[10:20] <cfraz89> and theres no 32 bit flash player
[10:20] <cfraz89> it should be faster
[10:20] <dlissner> aegeanlinux: what does the -xvf mean?
[10:20] <cfraz89> but if you are not worried about speed, go for 32 bit
[10:20] <kral> xvf = extract verbose f....
[10:20] <cfraz89> plus some drivers are not available on 64 bit
[10:20] <dlissner> ah ok
[10:21] <dlissner> can i specify which folder it extracts to in the command line?
[10:21] <kral> thank you cfraz89, you was very kind :)
[10:21] <aegeanlinux> at the end say -C <DIRECTORY>
[10:21] <cfraz89> np :)
[10:21] <kral> now I have to run to my workplace to download my cd :)
[10:21] <dlissner> thanks aegan
[10:21] <aegeanlinux> S'all good.
[10:21] <_Shade_> hi there
[10:21] <dlissner> thank all of you i will be in here a lot seeking help probably
[10:21] <cfraz89> cya :)
[10:21] <cfraz89> good luck :)
[10:21] <kral> thank you :)
[10:22] <dlissner> and what does the -c mean?
[10:22] <aamor> So, anyone know how to use this elilo thing? :)
[10:22] <aegeanlinux> (capital C)
[10:22] <Healot> -C >> directory to extract
[10:22] <aegeanlinux> it means "extract here ..."
[10:22] <xav_> IS there no way to avoid typing the password every two seconds ( when i open adept, change settings, kwallet...)
[10:22] <dlissner> does it stand for something?
[10:23] <aegeanlinux> extraCt
[10:23] <aegeanlinux> ???
[10:23] <dlissner> lol that's a long shot
[10:24] <Healot> yeah
[10:24] <aegeanlinux> dlissner: read the MAN page... just type man tar
[10:24] <Healot> e x t has been taken
[10:24] <aegeanlinux> man can teach you alot of things... just man <command>
[10:24] <admin_> hi
[10:24] <dlissner> it says old option "g" requires an argument
[10:25] <dlissner> oh i left of the xvf
[10:25] <aegeanlinux> LOL!
[10:25] <aamor> healot: could you show me how to use elilo? I downloaded it, but I've no clue how to use it
[10:25] <dlissner> oh if in the dlissner folder i made a folder "programs"
[10:25] <dlissner> how do i specify the path? cause what i put did not work
[10:25] <_Shade_> hey why i cant copy my mp3 files into an mp3 player using kubuntu ?
[10:26] <nickay> i am trying to install gnome desktop environment but i am not able to find any package for it. Which is the the package name for Gnome? Thanks
[10:26] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {filename.tar.gz} -C /path/to/extract/to
[10:26] <dlissner> yeah i know that aegean i mean
[10:27] <dlissner> in my home folder i created a directory named "programs"
[10:27] <dlissner> what would be the full path?
[10:27] <cfraz89> nickay: i think it is ubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {filename.tar.gz} -C ~/programs ;)
[10:27] <cfraz89> will turn kubuntu into ubuntu
[10:27] <aegeanlinux> ~/ is short for /home/{username}
[10:28] <dlissner> thanks again aegean
[10:28] <aegeanlinux> S'all good dlissner ;)
[10:28] <link_36p> Does anyone know how i can get my super key working?
[10:28] <dlissner> is there a way to add a shortcut for firefox to the popup?
[10:31] <dlissner> uh heh firefox won't open. what is the extension for executable files?
[10:32] <Healot> firefox?
[10:32] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Why not just do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:32] <Healot> if properly installed, just firefox
[10:32] <Hawkwind> dlissner: That way it installs it globally via a deb package from the repos
[10:32] <aamor> anyone know how to use elilo?
[10:33] <kraut> moin
[10:33] <Hawkwind> aamor: http://elilo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/blosxom
[10:33] <dlissner> hawk
[10:34] <dlissner> i have no idea what that does
[10:34] <dlissner> but it jsut says package is not available
[10:34] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Setup your sources.list correctly
[10:34] <Hawkwind> !repos
[10:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:34] <nickay> thanks cfraz89
[10:34] <kosh> it says that package is not available for mozilla-firefox?
[10:34] <Hawkwind> dlissner: ^^^^^^^^
[10:34] <dlissner> how hawkind?
[10:34] <aamor> yes, i know the elilo website, but do you know how to use it?
[10:35] <Hawkwind> aamor: No, but that site tells you
[10:35] <kosh> mozilla-firefox is in main that is available by default
[10:35] <dlissner> ok i'll read
[10:35] <kosh> unless you changed /etc/apt/sources.list manually it should all be ok
[10:35] <dlissner> i don't know this is my first hour of linux
[10:35] <dlissner> i didn't change anything
[10:35] <kosh> dlissner: what version of kubuntu did you install from?
[10:35] <cfraz89> nickay:np :)
[10:35] <dlissner> kosh 6.06 off the dvd
[10:36] <confused> cannot start a subprocess when trying to extract files in ark?
[10:36] <kosh> sure seems like a strange problem
[10:37] <dlissner> Reading package lists... Done
[10:37] <dlissner> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:37] <dlissner> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:37] <dlissner> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:37] <dlissner> is only available from another source
[10:37] <dlissner> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[10:37] <cfraz89> dlissner, do you have the universe repository enabled?
[10:37] <Hawkwind> dlissner: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:38] <dlissner> cfraz i don't know i just installed kubuntu an hour or so ago and have never used linux before
[10:38] <Hawkwind> Multiverse won't do him any good since firefox is in main
[10:38] <cfraz89> ok
[10:38] <cfraz89> oh ok
[10:38] <kosh> that just does not make sense
[10:38] <dlissner> same error hawkwind
[10:38] <kosh> why would main not be in the package lists
[10:38] <cfraz89> dlissner: try updating your repos
[10:38] <dlissner> well how can i add it?
[10:38] <Hawkwind> dlissner: ubotu posted a URL about repos and setting them up.  Read it and follow it
[10:39] <cfraz89> either sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <dlissner> cfraz how?
[10:39] <cfraz89> or press fetch package lists in adept
[10:39] <Hawkwind> dlissner: sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <cfraz89> i think adept has an update button in toolbar
[10:39] <dlissner> the update thing didn't work
[10:39] <cfraz89> what happened?
[10:40] <dlissner> it said it updated
[10:40] <Hawkwind> Didn't work is a pretty vague message
[10:40] <dlissner> but same error
[10:40] <cfraz89> if you want, i could put up my sources file, and you could overwrite yours with it
[10:40] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Please read the info about the repos
[10:41] <dlissner> reding hawkwind
[10:41] <cfraz89> dlissner: have you used adept before?
[10:41] <Hawkwind> dlissner: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[10:41] <digitalslacker> aamor: are you familiar with manpages? http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/8/elilo.html
[10:41] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Follow that how-to on my forums
[10:41] <kosh> that still seems screwy that a completely new install should have any of those problems
[10:41] <dlissner> it says now
[10:41] <dlissner> However the following packages replace it:
[10:41] <kosh> it is supposed to be setup out of the box for that
[10:41] <dlissner>   libnss3
[10:41] <Hawkwind> That has a very extensive sources.list
[10:41] <dlissner> so i tried sudo apt-get libnss3
[10:42] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install libnss3 would be the command
[10:42] <dlissner> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:42] <dlissner> in adept it says mozilla-firefox is installed
[10:43] <cfraz89> mozilla-firefox is installed?
[10:43] <kosh> okay so what is the issue then?
[10:43] <Hawkwind> You can NOT have adept open and do a apt-get command from CLI at the same time
[10:43] <kosh> can you do alt-f2 firefox and hit enter and see if firefox starts
[10:44] <dlissner> could not run specified command
[10:45] <dlissner> why not a simple setup file like windows :-\
[10:45] <digitalslacker> dlissner: "mozilla-Firefox" is a transitional package. Check to see if just plain old "firefox" is installed
[10:45] <ricardo> hi everybody...
[10:45] <ricardo> did anybody managed to get MATLAB working with wine? (kinda desperate here...)
[10:46] <dlissner> i search in adept for firfoz
[10:46] <Healot> MATLAB latest status?
[10:46] <dlissner> all tht comes up is mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb and says it is instaled
[10:47] <digitalslacker> dlissner: is this a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[10:47] <dlissner> digital yes about one hour ago maybe two now
[10:48] <wilfredH> my box crashed on boot after using qtparted to format a new hd, any ideas why?
[10:49] <digitalslacker> okay, enable your repositories, click View> Manage Repositories> and right click on the entries (not the notes) that are faded out and click "Enable"
[10:49] <dlissner> in adapt?
[10:49] <digitalslacker> then click Apply at the bottom. At the top, click fetch updates. Then do a search for firefox
[10:49] <digitalslacker> yes, in adept
[10:49] <Healot> ricardo: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=49
[10:50] <dlissner> thanks dig
[10:51] <digitalslacker> dlissner: did firefox show up this time?
[10:51] <dlissner> not done yet
[10:51] <dlissner> so leave out the ones that say comment, yeah?
[10:51] <digitalslacker> then don't thank me yet :-P
[10:51] <digitalslacker> yeah
[10:52] <dlissner> so doing this will provide locations to connect to when i type apt-get?
[10:53] <dlissner> still gettin the same error when i do the apt-get message
[10:53] <dlissner> mozilla has no installation candidate
[10:53] <digitalslacker> have you tried installing through adept?
[10:53] <dlissner> i downloaded firefox from the site
[10:53] <dlissner> why can't i just use that?
[10:54] <dlissner> search for firefox in adept and the only match is installed already
[10:55] <dlissner> it's jsut the english langauge package thogh
[10:55] <dlissner> let me fetch updates
[10:56] <digitalslacker> you don't have any filters unchecked at the top do you? (not installed, installed, upgradable...)
[10:56] <dlissner> all checked
[10:57] <dlissner> but now i am fetching updates maybe i needed to do this first?
[10:57] <tower> hi, i am have a problem with compile software. I keep get this msg
[10:57] <tower> configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:57] <tower> Error during sources configuration. Installation aborted!
[10:57] <dlissner> i really don't understand what i am doing in this process
[10:57] <ndc> hi all
[10:58] <tower> hhi
[10:58] <_max_> anyone get a apt-cacher to work with kubuntu ?
[10:58] <dlissner> hi
[10:58] <ndc> thanks
[10:59] <cfraz89> dtwoer: there is a package, x11-dev or something
[10:59] <cfraz89> *tower
[10:59] <cfraz89> tower: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[11:00] <tower> yes
[11:00] <tower> did that
[11:00] <dlissner> cfraz can you explain why just downloading the tar.gz from firefox's site and extracting it does not suffice in obtaning the program?
[11:00] <cfraz89> oh ok
[11:00] <cfraz89> dlissner: it does work, just that its preffereed to do stuff through the package system
[11:01] <cfraz89> so feel free to use teh tar.gz
[11:01] <ndc> mow i installing KDE from Gnome in Ubuntu and my disk become full
[11:01] <dlissner> well i extracted it
[11:01] <dlissner> but how do i open firefox?
[11:01] <cfraz89> in the folder you extracted
[11:02] <dlissner> i went to the file "firefox" and double clicked it
[11:02] <dlissner> and nothing happens
[11:02] <kosh> god why is this being made so difficult
[11:02] <cfraz89> try right clicking in the blank area
[11:02] <kosh> just hit alt-f2 firefox and hit enter
[11:02] <kosh> if it is already installed then that will work
[11:02] <dlissner> didn't work kosh
[11:02] <cfraz89> and actions, open terminal here
[11:02] <cfraz89> then do ./firefox
[11:02] <emonkey-p> ndc, maybe a sudo apt-get autclean will help
[11:02] <cfraz89> see what it says
[11:02] <kosh> geeze that machine is going to be so screwed up in a few days
[11:03] <ndc> ok thanks i will try now
[11:03] <kosh> installing stuff manually
[11:03] <cfraz89> dlissner: but it is best to work out what the problem is
[11:03] <emonkey-p> maybe a sudo apt-get clean
[11:03] <kosh> apt-get clean won't fix anything, that just removes cached copies of packages
[11:04] <kosh> these problems don't even make much sense, like why firefox would be marked as installed but not runnable, why from a default install the main repository was not available etc
[11:04] <kosh> that is just screwy as heck
[11:05] <kosh> I don't see how a cd/dvd image with those kinds of problems could have made it past beta or why more people have not had problems
[11:06] <ndc> so when i tape sudo apt-get clean nothing happen
[11:07] <dlissner> kosh tell me bout it. this seems to be the luck i have...
[11:08] <dlissner> well
[11:08] <ndc> now my partiton disk full and over than 5 giga 4 nothing
[11:09] <dlissner> the apt-get command is working now, after i enabled the repositories and after i fetched updates
[11:09] <dlissner> and it is downloading several libraries
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> moparisthebest has a strange part message...
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir
[11:09] <dlissner> maybe i needed these in order to run firefox...
[11:09] <abattoir> pm me
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> you have to start the query, I still a question pending there...
[11:11] <abattoir> well, i'm in itrssi and i cant see what i tpe :-D
[11:11] <wolfmanz> abattoir what program tells you there are updates and its in the system tray when you first install kubuntu is that adept dping that?
[11:11] <dlissner> thanks for the help everyone i'm sure i'd never have gotten this working without you
[11:11] <abattoir> adept_notifiwer
[11:12] <abattoir> notifier
[11:13] <kosh> well I am heading to bed have fun
[11:13] <digitalslacker> dlissner: so you got everything working as it should?
[11:14] <dlissner> well it's apt-get is now downloading firefox
[11:14] <dlissner> slow as hell though
[11:14] <dlissner> for some reason my net is very slow in kubuntu
[11:15] <dlissner> is it bad support for my wireless card or something?
[11:15] <digitalslacker> dlissner: that could be a possibility. What card are you using?
[11:15] <dlissner> seems like it's in b mode or something and not g
[11:16] <wolfmanz> abattoir how do i get that thing back into the tray i dont see it anywehere?
[11:16] <dlissner> digitalslacker i'm not sure, it's in a laptop i just got last week haven't bothered to look. i think it's a broadcom though
[11:16] <abattoir> try running adept_notifier
[11:16] <digitalslacker> the card that I've found to have the best support in Kubuntu is the Netgear WG511T Super G
[11:17] <abattoir> i'll be back later bye
[11:17] <dlissner> ah well if it is driver related then i dont have good support at all. heh
[11:17] <dlissner> 6kb/s is ridiculously slow
[11:18] <digitalslacker> the Netgear works out-of-the-box, very nicely at that
[11:18] <dlissner> is there a way i could look for better driver for my card?
[11:18] <dlissner> cause like i said i just bought this laptop last week, thus, not looking to by another card
[11:19] <dlissner> I don't even have wirless at home i am just out of town, and don't plan linux to be my main OS, jsut wanted to give it a try and get familiar
[11:19] <digitalslacker> you're in a motel?
[11:20] <dlissner> yeah a hotel. it's a long story. been spending summer out in Cali with a friend. she got mold in her AC, thus we are in the residence inn marriot
[11:20] <digitalslacker> every motel I've stayed in have had terrible internet connections
[11:20] <dlissner> the net here is very fast
[11:21] <dlissner> i've been getting 300k/s downloads in windows
[11:22] <digitalslacker> the Marriot I stayed at in Illinois had a slow connection, but it was also filled with about 50 other computer geeks, so it could have just been bogged down
[11:22] <dlissner> yeah. this is the nicest hotel i've ever been in in my life.
[11:22] <dlissner> two story room, free breakfast and dinner that is actually very good, very fast internet
[11:23] <bradbury9> hello
[11:23] <dlissner> they will even go and buy groceries at the local store and charge only the cost
[11:23] <bradbury9> anyone knows a good asp.net ide for kde?
[11:23] <digitalslacker> yeah, Marriots have excellent service
[11:24] <bradbury9> i think it is a c# plugin for kdevelop, but dont know its name
[11:24] <dlissner> yeah luckily my friends apt office is payin for it
[11:24] <bradbury9> i wouldn't like to install eclipse and gnome libraries
[11:25] <digitalslacker> dear lord, I have a major crisis here... there's no more coffee. Must mean it's almost time for work. Bye all.
[11:25] <dlissner> by dig and thanks for all the help
[11:26] <digitalslacker> no problem, that's why I stopped by ;-)
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> How well do the orinoco drivers for a prism-chipset wireless device work in Linux?
[11:33] <dlissner> i dunno but my wirless device drivers suck in linux is there a site i can maybe find better ones?
[11:33] <dlissner> downloads are maxin out at 7k a sec on broadband
[11:41] <ricardo> has anybody get MATLAB to work under wine?
[11:41] <dlissner> no
[11:41] <dlissner> is wine a linux that runs on windows?
[11:43] <MuJ> dlissner: no, wine is compatibilty layer that allows you to run windows programs on linux
[11:45] <dlissner> oh. is it emulation?
[11:45] <MuJ> Wine Is Not Emulator
[11:46] <cfraz89_washing> dlissner: it is a re-implementation of win32 api for linux :)
[11:46] <marcus__> i am having major repository troubles. Can't access them after an install without network hook up, can someone help me get them back please?
[11:47] <dlissner> does it allow most programs to run?
[11:47] <dlissner> marcusyou might have the same problem as me
[11:47] <dlissner> open adept
[11:47] <marcus__> dlissner: okay
[11:47] <dlissner> go to view>manage repositories
[11:48] <marcus__> dlissner: okay
[11:48] <dlissner> then right click on all the fadded ones (excluding the ones that say comment) and click enable
[11:49] <dlissner> after you do that to all of them apply the change, then click fetch updates
[11:49] <marcus__> dlissner: it worked. thank you very very much for a timely response
[11:50] <dlissner> marcus no problem, i had someone help me with the same thing about a half hour ago
[11:51] <marcus__> dlissner: my problem is i do everything by wireless so the connection wasnt there during install
[11:51] <dlissner> marcus, exact same problem i had. now my problem is poor driver for my card and my net is way too slow
[11:52] <marcus__> dlissner: what kind of card?
[11:53] <dlissner> i need to check i believe broadcom though
[11:53] <dlissner> it's an internal
[11:53] <marcus__> dlissner: mines a broadcom too
[11:54] <marcus__> dlissner: it works just fine for me after driver install
[11:54] <dlissner> is it very slow for you?
[11:54] <dlissner> where'd you get the driver?
[11:54] <marcus__> dlissner: fast as a lick
[11:55] <cfraz89_washing> dlissner: your net is slow?
[11:56] <dlissner> cfraz yeah very
[11:56] <dlissner> in windows i am gettin downlaods of 300k/sec
[11:56] <dlissner> in kubunto averaging 1k/sec!
[11:56] <marcus__> dlissner: i get about 500k on my dell 1470 card
[11:56] <marcus__> dlissner: in kubuntu
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir
[11:57] <marcus__> dlissner: want i should try to walk you through setting it up like i did?
[11:58] <dlissner> marcus yes
[11:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[11:59] <marcus__> dlissner: first remove all the wireless drivers and we will start from the beginning okay?
[11:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: works?
[11:59] <dlissner> marcus how do i remove?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Does not prompt me for updates anymore at least, abattoir
[11:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so you get the broken pipe thing?
[11:59] <marcus__> dlissner: ndiswrapper -e (drivername)
[12:00] <dlissner> marcus i don't know the driver i am just using the default one
[12:00] <dlissner> it detected m card after install but it just sucks
[12:00] <dlissner> so i need a new one
[12:00] <marcus__> dlissner: okay type ndiswrapper -l in konsole and tell me what it says
[12:01] <abattoir> nixternal: around?
[12:01] <marcus__> dlissner: this way should work it has worked for me and others like really well, so hang in there. :)
[12:01] <dlissner> command not found
[12:02] <marcus__> dlissner: okay install ndiswrapper-utils....
[12:02] <dlissner> what's command?
[12:02] <dlissner> I have never used linux before tonight
[12:02] <marcus__> sudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper-utils
[12:02] <marcus__> dlissner: in konsole
[12:03] <marcus__> dlissner: sorry ndiswrapper-utils
[12:03] <marcus__> dlspelled it wrog the first time sorry. typing not that good sometimes in english :)
[12:04] <dlissner> it's ok, thanks
[12:04] <dlissner> ok it's done
[12:04] <marcus__> dlissner: well that typed well eh?
[12:04] <marcus__> dlissner: okay now need to get card drivers
[12:05] <marcus__> dlissner: i think it's called bcmwl5  there are 2 an ini and a sys
[12:05] <dlissner> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG this is my card
[12:05] <marcus__> dlissner: but it uses broadcom chip right?
[12:05] <dlissner> just looked it up on the notebook mfr's site
[12:05] <dlissner> i dunno i thought it was broadcom but i think that's jsut the bluetooth
[12:06] <dlissner> the wifi i think may just be intel
[12:06] <marcus__> dlissner: it's okay do you have your driver files for your card handy?
[12:06] <marcus__> dlissner: if not you should get them. i think the install for wireless should still work fine.
[12:07] <dlissner> i am searching for them
[12:07] <ubuntu> hey guys, im following this tutorial on installing ubuntu on an intel based mac, and its telling me to mount the root partition on /mnt. how do I do this?
[12:08] <marcus__> dlissner: like i said i will try to help you get it working with basic install. if it doesnt work i apologize for that.....
[12:09] <dlissner> ubuntu is it graphical?
[12:09] <dlissner> marcus it is ok
[12:09] <ubuntu> yes
[12:09] <dlissner> i'm still searching for the drivers
[12:09] <marcus__> dlissner: okay let me know when you find them
[12:09] <dlissner> ubuntu for me, it gave me a menu
[12:09] <dlissner> with dropdown boxes
[12:10] <ubuntu> but where were these menus? in a certain app?
[12:10] <dlissner> and it let me select which partitions to mount what on
[12:10] <dlissner> in the kubuntu installtion
[12:11] <marcus__> !restrictedformats
[12:11] <ubuntu> yea but I'm doing this a certain way, like its saying in the tutorial
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <dlissner> i'm not experienced in linux so i am probably not much help
[12:11] <ubuntu> well how do I mount a drive at all?
[12:11] <dlissner> mount <partition> <folder>
[12:12] <dlissner> so first make a folder for it
[12:12] <dlissner> like /home/user/mountfolder
[12:12] <dlissner> then do mount /partiton info /home/user/mountfolder
[12:13] <dlissner> my windows partition is /dev/sda4
[12:13] <dlissner> so i made a folder called windows and then did
[12:13] <ubuntu> it says only root can do that
[12:13] <marcus__> ubuntu: use sudo before it
[12:13] <dlissner> put sudo on the front
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> I would like to partition my disc and move the /home folder to a seperate partition...
[12:14] <ubuntu> now it says looks like swapspace - not mounted
[12:14] <dlissner> sudo mount <partition> /home/ubuntu/<folderyoumade>
[12:15] <ubuntu> in Parted what partition type should I make it?
[12:15] <dlissner> i don't know
[12:15] <ubuntu> fat32?
[12:15] <marcus__> ubuntu: which partition?
[12:15] <dlissner> i'd do ext3
[12:16] <ubuntu> the partition im trying to install linux on
[12:16] <dlissner> ext3
[12:16] <marcus__> ubuntu: i make /boot ext2 / ext3 /home ext3 and swap swap
[12:16] <marcus__> ubuntu: so ext3 is a good choice
[12:17] <dlissner> marcus read this:
[12:17] <dlissner> http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/
[12:17] <ubuntu> that didn't make much sense but ok
[12:17] <dlissner> ubuntu he means he has 3 parittions
[12:17] <dlissner> one for boot
[12:17] <dlissner> one for home
[12:17] <dlissner> and one for swap
[12:18] <marcus__> dlissner: and one for /
[12:18] <dlissner> he formats the boot as ext2
[12:18] <marcus__> so i actually have 4 :)
[12:18] <dlissner> the / as ext3
[12:18] <ubuntu> Still not making sense to me, I'm completely new to Linux
[12:18] <dlissner> the /home as ext3
[12:18] <dlissner> and the swap as swap
[12:18] <dlissner> yeah me too ubuntu
[12:18] <dlissner> you need to make two paritions at least
[12:18] <dlissner> one for /
[12:18] <dlissner> and one for swap
[12:19] <dlissner> the swap one doesn't need to be big i don't beleive
[12:19] <marcus__> make the / ext3 ubuntu
[12:19] <ubuntu> whats the point of swap?
[12:20] <marcus__> ubuntu: paging file
[12:20] <ubuntu> and that is?
[12:20] <dlissner> ubuntu basically it;s like virtual ram i believ
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Virtual Memory
[12:21] <dlissner> so your physical ram can be used for important stuff
[12:21] <dlissner> and other stuff can use virtual ram on your hard disk
[12:21] <ubuntu> i see...
[12:21] <dlissner> hahah i don't even have a swap on my linux install
[12:22] <dlissner> marcus it seems like a lot
[12:22] <dlissner> i need wireless extensions
[12:22] <dlissner> wireless tools
[12:22] <ubuntu> so, I mounted the drive and now its named lost+found and its locked...
[12:22] <dlissner> then a driver and a firmware image
[12:22] <marcus__> dlissner: if you install the driver through ndiswrapper it should take care of that stuff
[12:23] <dlissner> ok
[12:23] <dlissner> so how do i do that?
[12:23] <marcus__> dlissner: firmware image?
[12:23] <marcus__> dlissner: after you have the drivers we can try the basic install and see if it works
[12:23] <dlissner> thats what it says on the dev site for the driver
[12:23] <dlissner> but aside that, how do i do the ndiswrapper>
[12:23] <dlissner> ok
[12:23] <dlissner> i will download them nowthn
[12:24] <ubuntu> why the hell is the drive locked?
[12:24] <dlissner> ubuntu at this point i have no clue
[12:24] <marcus__> dlissner: when you have the drivers i will walk you through it.
[12:24] <ubuntu> do either of you wanna see the site im looking at to see if I've done anything wrong?
[12:24] <ubuntu> cause i could really use the help
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir
[12:26] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks for the warm welcome :P
[12:26] <MilhousePunkRock> In fact, you _are_ welcome, abattoir
[12:26] <MetaMorfoziS> how it possible i can't kill a process?
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> with any of signal?
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> the process is irattach
[12:27] <ubuntu> http://mactel-linux.org/wiki/Dual_Booting#Using_rEFIt.2C_Boot_Camp_and_LILO
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> It was supposed to be one, abattoir, but now when I rethink it, it sucks...
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Since I am the one who's welcome... When it comes to you offering me your help...
[12:30] <dlissner> marcus you still here?
[12:30] <marcus__> yes
[12:30] <ubuntu> marcus did you see the page i linked?
[12:32] <marcus__> ubuntu: I am sorry but that is a little beyond my skills.
[12:32] <ubuntu> damn
[12:32] <ubuntu> so the stupid website is supposed to be for beginners, yet it requires advanced knowledge of Linux... real smart
[12:35] <dlissner> ok marcus i have the skills
[12:35] <dlissner> err drivers
[12:35] <dlissner> lol
[12:35] <dlissner> my bad
[12:39] <marcus__> dlissner: okay type the following
[12:40] <marcus__> dlissner: sudo ndiswrapper -i (nameoffile).inf
[12:41] <marcus__> dlissner: did you extract the drivers on your desktop or somewhere on your computer?
[12:41] <noiesmo> ndisgtk dont know if it helps I used it to install dwl 650 card
[12:41] <dlissner> doin that right now one sec
[12:41] <noiesmo> ndisgtk is a gui for ndiswrapper
[12:42] <marcus__> noiesmo: ive never used ndisgtk but i think i can get his card working from the command line :)
[12:42] <dlissner> k extracted marcus
[12:42] <dlissner> i'd rather learn the command line anyway
[12:42] <marcus__> open konsole and change to the directory where you extracted them
[12:43] <noiesmo> no probs
[12:43] <dlissner> k
[12:43] <dlissner> there
[12:43] <marcus__> type sudo ndiswrapper -i (nameoffile).inf
[12:43] <digibre4k_> new member .....
[12:43] <marcus__> dlissner: if you need to find the filename you can use ls
[12:44] <marcus__> dlissner: there will be a inf and a sys most likely with the same name
[12:44] <digibre4k_> how to download xmms and to install???
[12:45] <marcus__> digibre4k_: in adept make ure universe is enabled and search for xmms.
[12:45] <digibre4k_> can you help me????
[12:45] <dlissner> wait uhh hold on
[12:45] <dlissner> there were three more tars inside the main tar lemme extract them
[12:46] <marcus__> dlissner: okay
[12:46] <shaham> since i updated from breezy to dapper all my music-player who use xine-engine didnt work
[12:46] <marcus__> digibre4k_: or you can use "sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:46] <shaham> how can i get that music-player working? :(
[12:47] <marcus__> shaham: Sorry..... I have no idea on that one.
[12:47] <shaham> hmm ok
[12:47] <digibre4k_> i do not understand....!!!
[12:47] <dlissner> ugh
[12:48] <marcus__> dlissner: whats up?
[12:49] <dlissner> it's not an inf file
[12:49] <dlissner> i think i have to compile this myself
[12:49] <marcus__> dlissner: what is it?
[12:49] <dlissner> the readme says i need to download some other app so it can build the libraries
[12:49] <marcus__> dlissner: or you could use the windows driver
[12:49] <dlissner> this is taking way too much effort jesus christ
[12:50] <dlissner> i can use the windows driver, really
[12:50] <dlissner> ?
[12:50] <marcus__> dlissner: ndiswrapper uses windows drivers
[12:50] <dlissner> oh
[12:50] <dlissner> well lemme download that then
[12:50] <dlissner> hold on
[12:50] <marcus__> dlissner: if i was no specific enough i apologize. as i said english is not to good sometimes
[12:52] <dlissner> can linux run a .exe?
[12:52] <dlissner> the driver is only available as a .exe program
[12:52] <marcus__> dlissner: try extracting it with ark
[12:53] <cham_i_prostak> dlissner: with wine yes
[12:53] <dlissner> ugh i don't have wine
[12:53] <dlissner> this is way to many steps i have had linux for a few hours and i don't like it at all
[12:53] <marcus__> dlissner: try extractng the exe with ark
[12:53] <dlissner> it is very user unfriendly
[12:54] <marcus__> dlissner: this is true, but alot of people think it is worth it. :)
[12:54] <dlissner> why is it worth it?
[12:54] <dlissner> i'm beginning to not understand at all
[12:54] <marcus__> dlissner: faster,more stable, more customizable, good community, lots of support
[12:55] <marcus__> dlissner: no spyware and very few virii....
[12:55] <Ace2005> Anyone know where i can get boot themes for kubuntu?
[12:55] <marcus__> dlissner: definately not for gaming though
[12:56] <cham_i_prostak> dlissner: you're right, windows is much more user friendly
[12:56] <marcus__> but windows is like swiss cheese
[12:56] <cham_i_prostak> but windows treats his user like a comlete imbecil
[12:57] <marcus__> a friend of mine did the spyware update software in windows and it said something like 372,00 known threats scary
[12:57] <dlissner> i dunno
[12:57] <dlissner> i have my windows setup very customized, and have never had issues with spyware
[12:57] <marcus__> sorry 372000 typo:)
[12:58] <marcus__> dlissner: then i am guessing you are one of the lucky ones
[12:58] <dlissner> i am in full control of my windows system and i am safe about what i download and when there is spyware i am able to manually get rid of it from the registry and such
[12:58] <dlissner> in linux, i have been typing commands for hours just to get a decent net connection to no avail and i don' even know what it means
[12:58] <dlissner> just not sure it's worth the time to learn at this point in the game
[12:59] <marcus__> at least not t 6:30am eh?
[12:59] <dlissner> i'm very windows adjusted and i use a lot of software not in linux for school and work
[12:59] <dlissner> marcus
[01:00] <dlissner> if i mount my windows drive
[01:00] <dlissner> and find the driver in there
[01:00] <dlissner> will that suffice?
[01:00] <marcus__> it should still work
[01:00] <Godrin> dlissner: once you're into the flow, it gets much easier to use than windows. you'll need some 4 or 5 hours to setup a working system. (vs. 2 or 3 days on windows for downloading and installing all the software you need separately.
[01:00] <dlissner> ok
[01:00] <marcus__> just remember there is an inf and sys probably with the same name.
[01:00] <dlissner> godrin i have downloaded a lot of software that has gotten me nowhere
[01:01] <dlissner> it's like to downlaod firefoz
[01:01] <dlissner> i had to configure all this adept stuff
[01:01] <dlissner> then finlly it workes
[01:01] <dlissner> then net is slow, try to get wireless drivers
[01:01] <marcus__> <--- likes synaptic better
[01:01] <dlissner> find the intel one, but to use it i need such and such, and to use such and such i need this and that
[01:01] <Godrin> I don't say it's perfect. But for some people it's better :-)
[01:02] <dlissner> it's like this ongoing chain of dependencies from various parties
[01:02] <marcus__> dlissner: all you should need is drivers and ndiswrapper.
[01:02] <dlissner> the nice thing in windows is centralization. i want to add a device, i plus it in and it's done
[01:02] <dlissner> plug*
[01:02] <marcus__> dlissner: i set my card up in 5 minutes tops.
[01:02] <dlissner> i'm not here to bash linux it is just frustrating me
[01:02] <dlissner> yeah but marcus i'm having a hard time getting drivers for my card
[01:03] <dlissner> a really hard time
[01:03] <marcus__> dlissner: perhaps that is the fault of intel?
[01:04] <dlissner> marcus yeah i guess it is
[01:04] <marcus__> dlissner: personally i find drivers for different things to be the most irritating thing about linux, but i keep going anyway.....
[01:04] <dlissner> windows just has much better support of manufacturers
[01:04] <marcus__> dlissner: which supports the wintel monopoly and makes it stronger
[01:05] <pete___> i have a hp photosmart printer 7400/7450 can you get drivers for it and software to run on kubunta any help thank you
[01:06] <dlissner> sigh anyone know the folder where windows puts drivers?
[01:06] <dlissner> cab something or another
[01:06] <marcus__> <-- has only seen windows... never really wanted to use it.
[01:07] <dlissner> marcus where are you from?
[01:07] <marcus__> northeastern united states
[01:08] <dlissner> and you've never used windows? crazy
[01:08] <marcus__> never wanted to
[01:08] <dlissner> did your parents use linux or something?
[01:08] <pete___> thanks
[01:08] <dlissner> it was all that was really available to me i guess
[01:08] <Godrin> dlissner: if you're having trouble with intel-drivers, it might help to wait a little. At least this worked for me with the ipw2200 drivers ;-)
[01:09] <marcus__> no just linux was the first thing i used and i liked it. im still learning though
[01:09] <dlissner> how do you unmount a drive?
[01:09] <marcus__> unmount
[01:10] <marcus__> the more i read and see of windows the more i want to stay away from t too.
[01:11] <dlissner> how can i search for folders on the disk?
[01:12] <Godrin> dlissner K->Search ?
[01:12] <yamal> pete___: many hp photosmart printers work very well in linux... driver is either hplip or hpijs (included in kubuntu)
[01:12] <marcus__> try find its under the home menu
[01:12] <marcus__> <-- has to go to work pretty soon
[01:12] <pete___> thanks yamal
[01:12] <ricardo> is it normal that sun-java installation takes more than 5 minutes?
[01:13] <marcus__> !repositories
[01:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:14] <yamal> ricardo: you have to agree with some license stuff
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> marcus__: You can probably learn it a lot better/faster than all us Ex-Windows-Users...
[01:14] <ricardo> EULA agreement...I  know...but there is no message at all....it is just blocked at 25%
[01:14] <ricardo> yamal:
[01:15] <marcus__> MilhousePunkRock: i dunno, maybe
[01:15] <dlissner> i'm going to sleep
[01:15] <dlissner> marcus thanks for your help
[01:15] <marcus__> dlissner: good night
[01:15] <dlissner> maybe i will catch you in here later
[01:15] <marcus__> dlissner: im sure of it
[01:15] <dlissner> cool i'll be bac later this evening
[01:15] <scorpion007> ricardo: install it from the console instead
[01:15] <dlissner> i need some sleep before i can carry this on
[01:15] <dlissner> have a good night
[01:15] <marcus__> dlissner: you too
[01:15] <dlissner> night all
[01:16] <marcus__> where can i regenerate my sources list again?
[01:16] <ricardo> scorpion: thanx...ill try that....
[01:16] <marcus__> !sources
[01:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:17] <supernix> well I am the proud owner of the book Ubuntu Hacks
[01:17] <marcus__> !easysource
[01:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:18] <supernix> are there any other good Ubuntu books
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I find out the current blocksize in my file system?
[01:19] <elden> df -h
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Not really elden
[01:20] <elden> ic
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> I want to resize my partitions with resize2fs and fdisk, but I need the blocksize so I can tell resize2fs how big it's supposed to be
[01:21] <elden> how about using g-parted?
[01:21] <marcus__> bed is my friend. nighty night
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> The G confuses me, sounds like GTK
[01:21] <marcus__> haha just kidding. gotta leave for work
[01:21] <marcus__> have a good day everybody....
[01:22] <elden> g-parted = gnome partition editor
[01:22] <elden> you can use it to resize partitions
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, if I run a gnome app on KDE, I'll have to install lots of GTK libraries...
[01:23] <nolte> there should be a qt-parted also
[01:23] <aegeanlinux> lol.
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> qt-parted fails to do anything, and yes, I launched it with root permission
[01:24] <elden> ic
[01:24] <elden> i think theres a live cd or usb version
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I already figured out the usage of resize2fs, but I need to find out my block size...
[01:25] <elden> w8
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Because than I can divide the 15 GB I want with the blocksize and the result, which is the number of blocks, is what I tell resize2fs
[01:25] <elden> hmm
[01:26] <Ace2005> Is google down at the moment?
[01:26] <elden> i dont use reiserfs, i use jfs
[01:26] <elden> but when i googled it
[01:26] <elden> the default block size for reiserfs under linux is 4096 bytes
[01:27] <elden> does it work?
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> elden, nolte --> http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/resize2fs.8.html
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Did I not mention that I use ext3?
[01:28] <elden> nah, you didnt :p
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Now you know...
[01:29] <elden> :)
[01:29] <elden> so, you want to resize an ext3 partition?
[01:29] <elden> you said before you want to resize a partition using reiser2fs
[01:29] <Healot> PM or fdisk, qtparted is also cool for that
[01:30] <elden> so i assumed you have a reiserfs
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> RESIZE2fs, not reiser
[01:30] <elden> omg, my bad
[01:31] <elden> i must be sleepy :)
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> To be precise: Right now I have one large partition (next to the extended and swap, which seem to be in the same range)
[01:31] <nolte> man mkfs.ext3 says valid block sizes are 1,2 and 4 kb
[01:32] <elden> then go for it :)
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> So I have three options that will leave me with half or even quarter the size I actually want? nolte o_O
[01:33] <nolte> three ist better then 5, hold on a moment
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Wait, nolte, than my block size must be one, since hda1 has 2855506 Blocks and it's a 30 GB HDD in total
[01:34] <supernix> does anyone know which is the best Ubuntu book to buy ?
[01:34] <Healot> there is book for ubuntu?
[01:35] <supernix> Yes many of them to
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> The plan is to put 10 GB aside for another distro and make a seperate partition for /home of 5 GB
[01:35] <supernix> I bought Ubuntu Hacks because it was the only one I saw last night but there are many more than that
[01:36] <elden> ic
[01:36] <supernix> I went to bn.com and saw the Ubuntu Bible as well as the Ubuntu Official book
[01:36] <elden> hmm, i think i can't help you, bec when i resize partitions, i always use g-parted
[01:37] <supernix> I figured getting one of them a good one that is would help with any issue I might have
[01:37] <supernix> But sad to say I did not see a modem section
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> elden
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[01:37] <elden> :)
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> elden, it looks like I can do the "first part", shrinking the initial partition easily... I wonder how I get a new partition created though...
[01:38] <elden> hmm
[01:39] <ubuntu> how to install xgl on kubuntu ?
[01:39] <elden> add xgl.compiz.net to your repositories
[01:39] <elden> sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-kde compiz-gnome
[01:39] <ubuntu> thank u
[01:40] <elden> oh btw, follow the instructions at xgl.compiz.info
[01:40] <elden> and use replace kwin with cgwd to fire up your 3d desktop
[01:40] <ubuntu> thanks for your help. saw an article this morning. xgl looks good. thought I would try it
[01:40] <elden> 4got, issue cgwd --replace
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: There is a Live Linux running XGL, maybe that's better for trying it...
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Called "korora" or something
[01:41] <elden> yah
[01:41] <elden> sorry milhouse, can't really help :)
[01:42] <nolte> so here we are
[01:42] <nolte> tune2fs -l /dev/hda1
[01:42] <nolte> blocksize ist 4096
[01:42] <gabriel1> hello
[01:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:45] <elden> :)
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello slow-motion
[01:45] <slow-motion> hi MilhousePunkRock
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> thx nolte... Indeed it's 4096 here too
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Why does fdisk -l /dev/hda1 tell me it has 2855506 blocks than?
[01:50] <nolte> could this be 2855506 blocks a 4 kb is about your fs size
[01:52] <nolte> is your fs size about 10 gb ?
[01:52] <nolte> that should be ok then
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> No
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> It's 30
[01:52] <nolte> hmm
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, 29 if you calculate the swap
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> The Block count is 28555506 in fdisk
[01:53] <nolte> an hda is not your swap partition, right ?
[01:53] <nolte> and hda1 is not your swap partition, right ? (sorry)
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Wanna see the partition table from fdisk for clearing things up?
[01:54] <nolte> why not
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> nolte: http://pastebin.ca/102190
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Both the fdisk and the tune2fs output
[01:57] <Healot> killed by idol
[01:57] <Healot> damn, i can only torify connection outside
[01:57] <MilhousePunkRock> re Healot
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> How does that tor thing work anyway... You get rerouted over a dozen nodes, so you can't be traced back?
[01:59] <nolte> hmm look at line 30, tune2fs block count is 713xxx x 4096 that works, dont' know what the fdisk blocks are
[02:00] <nolte> multiplied by 4096 KB
[02:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Since some HowTo for resize2fs mentioned tune2fs to determine the blocksize, I'll stick with that...
[02:04] <elden> i read resize2fs as reiserfs :p i think i should go to be now :)
[02:04] <elden> *bed
[02:04] <elden> ;)
[02:04] <MilhousePunkRock> so 16777216 blocks of 4096 kb would make 16 GB?
[02:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Wait, no...
[02:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Huh? 4096 Blocks of 4096 KB make 16 GB?
[02:05] <nolte> its 4 KB and 4096 bytes so devide by 8
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> your bad --> [14:00]  <nolte> multiplied by 4096 KB
[02:06] <nolte> depends from where you start blocks or GB
[02:07] <ubuntu> Hi all
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Starts on Block 0
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi ubuntu
[02:08] <ubuntu> any body know how to configuer 802.1x in kubuntu?!!
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> As in Wireless, ubuntu?
[02:09] <ubuntu> will, ya!! to be frank I need it for wireless and wired network, this is the config in the company i work for.
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Depends on what you need to know, ubuntu...
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I got some basic knowledge about it by now, set up my wireless twice...
[02:10] <ubuntu> ok, lets keep it for wireless for now, is there any package for it?!
[02:11] <ubuntu> I looked in SLED 10 and I was serprised its not there ?!!
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> There are several packages for it... But once I had it set up properly and found out the /etc/network/interfaces controls everything, I never used any GUI stuff for it anymore
[02:11] <ubuntu> it was suppose to be an "E" edition right?!!
[02:13] <MilhousePunkRock> SLED 10 as in Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop?
[02:13] <ubuntu> ya
[02:13] <ubuntu> by the why, i would appreciate it if you could send me the templet of your config
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> So how is the connection between that and Kubuntu? I don't quite get it...
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: What encryption do you use?
[02:15] <ubuntu> see I thought since it is an enterprise edtion, i don't have to fidle arround with dot1x, i was wrong
[02:16] <ubuntu> i guess its wap 40 bit
[02:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I still don't quite understand how you connect SUSE and Kubuntu...
[02:16] <ubuntu> with peap for authentication
[02:16] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: This is my interfaces I pasted for someonelse earlier this morning: http://pastebin.ca/101834
[02:17] <solomonuk> lo
[02:17] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir... When did you sneak back in?
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Wow, half an hour ago...
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/ieee8021x.conf and /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes will probably help you
[02:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe :)
[02:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[02:21] <ubuntu> is there any project to make xgl work out of the box in kubuntu?!
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: There are unofficial repositories but they invariably break things - aiglx is in edgy but I dont know why you would want xgl in an enterprise type situation its alpha software
[02:23] <ubuntu> the xgl for playaround not for work
[02:23] <ubuntu> anyway, for now i care a bout .1x
[02:23] <BluesKaj> Kororaa is a live cd that will install Xgl on yer system if you have the right graphics drivers etc
[02:24] <McScruff> gentoo based
[02:24] <DeadS0ul> BluesKaj: they got past the whole license thing?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> dunno DeadS0ul, I DL'd and burned it , but unfortunately I couldn't make it work on my elcheapo ATI xpress 200 evn tho itsays it will :(
[02:25] <DeadS0ul> doh
[02:26] <BluesKaj> AAMOF I had to reinstall kubuntu cuz I caused so much damage to my existing setup at the time
[02:28] <Bluntslide_> Anyone has problems with automatic updates from adept?
[02:28] <Bluntslide_> right now I got half kde in english and half in spanish because of it
[02:28] <Bluntslide_> :(
[02:29] <BluesKaj> have you added any repositories?
[02:29] <sebr> do dudes. i'm relying on all you kubunut experts
[02:29] <sebr> how can i make my laptop run faster
[02:29] <sebr> like blitzing fast on kubuntu
[02:29] <sebr> i hear its possible
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> sebr: dapper was too slow on my laptop so it got kanotix which was alot faster - build 2.6.16 from kernel.org (optionally with realtime patches) would make a difference
[02:31] <sebr> h3sp4wn: to go to all that effort, i'll just reinstall Arch linux
[02:31] <sebr> this is the problem with packages which aren't optimised for i686 :)
[02:31] <tic_> how come after I have installed ati's fglrx driver xrandr cant get the physical screen size right?
[02:33] <tic_> I'm using the same xorg.conf as I did when it worked with the none-ati fglrx driver
[02:33] <Bluntslide_> blueskaj do you want me to post my repositories?
[02:34] <BluesKaj> no Bluntslide_, just check if you have some spanish based ones
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> sebr: The 686 optimizations dont make a massive difference for most programs in my experience (other than maybe X and the kernel) there is some other problem to that (debian sid is compiled for 486 and runs really fast)
[02:34] <Bluntslide_> yes I have
[02:35] <sebr> well X makes a big difference
[02:35] <sebr> i can see the lag resizing windows
[02:35] <sebr> and moving them about
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Bluntslide_, I think the spanish ones may be causing your problem
[02:37] <BluesKaj> unless you want spanish programs
[02:37] <solomonuk> lo.  I have tried to install firefox on my own going through the help on the forum but it will not work can any1 please talk me through the process
[02:37] <ricardo> hi...
[02:37] <ricardo> does anybody use MATLAB under WINE?
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> sebr: I take it you have the binary drivers installed (if appropriate)
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> ricardo: Why would you do that there is a linux native version of it
[02:38] <fannagoganna> actually, ricardo, I have matlab for linux
[02:38] <fannagoganna> if you're interested
[02:38] <fannagoganna> it runs natively (such as it is)
[02:38] <ubuntu> thank you MilhousePunkRock for your support
[02:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: I didn't do much, did I?
[02:39] <fannagoganna> it uses Java, so it's slow as balls starting up and as temperamental as a psycho girlfriend
[02:39] <sebr> yeah, xorg drivers are using trident...
[02:40] <solomonuk> Can ne1 spare a few mins to help me install forefox plz?
[02:41] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: i have a windows version installed under XP on one partition...And linux in the other..(plus I dont have a matlab for linux license)
[02:41] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: it works fine but i have to use -nojvm option....
[02:41] <MilhousePunkRock> solomonuk: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:41] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: this way the interface is much uglier (simulink works fine though!)
[02:42] <slow-motion> bbl
[02:42] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, have you tried to find it in  ADEPT ?
[02:42] <MilhousePunkRock> in the console that is, solomonuk
[02:44] <solomonuk> Millhouse: is says firefox is not available
[02:47] <BluesKaj> well, there gotta be a way to install firefox
[02:47] <solomonuk> MilhousePunkRock: I dont know what ADEPT is.  Im brand new to Linux
[02:47] <fannagoganna> Blueskaj: you might have a problem with your file /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:48] <MilhousePunkRock> did you change your sources list?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, ADEPT is a package manager that is used to download and install programs ...it's in your K-Menu
[02:49] <solomonuk> no havent touched it, like I say i went through the help on the forum but it didn't work, didn't mention anything about a sources list either
[02:49] <fannagoganna> run apt-get update
[02:49] <fannagoganna> and then run apt-cache search firefox
[02:49] <kalm> is it safe to install kde 3.5.3?
[02:49] <kalm>  I supposed canonical teams will not make security corrections on it
[02:49] <BluesKaj> fannagoganna, I have FF installed, it's not me with the prob
[02:49] <fannagoganna> well, there is a kubuntu.org repository for the latest KDE
[02:49] <MilhousePunkRock> kalm: I have that for weeks already, no issues...
[02:50] <fannagoganna> ah ok, you're trying to compile it?
[02:51] <slow-motion> re
[02:51] <solomonuk> :p im just trying to install it.  Maybe learn a bit in the process
[02:51] <fannagoganna> ok solomonuk, can you run "apt-get update"
[02:52] <BluesKaj> solomonuk ? did you see my reference to "adept" ?
[02:53] <solomonuk> fannagoganna: cant run apt-get update
[02:53] <BluesKaj> fannagoganna,don't you think he should how to walk thru linux before you try to teach him how to run?
[02:53] <fannagoganna> are you running with sudo, solomonuk?
[02:53] <solomonuk> BluesKaj: yes and don't know what adept is
[02:53] <solomonuk> 1 sec
[02:53] <fannagoganna> oh ok, this will take a while then
[02:53] <fannagoganna> :)
[02:54] <BluesKaj> look in the menu / system
[02:54] <solomonuk> fanna: okay ran sudo apt-get update
[02:54] <fannagoganna> is it doing something?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> too many teachers ..
[02:55] <Healot> not many student
[02:55] <fannagoganna> like Alexander the Great and his many teachers
[02:55] <fannagoganna> or tutors
[02:56] <Healot> his gay tutors and incest mother?
[02:56] <solomonuk> right I have adept running now, and now know what it is
[02:57] <kalm> hu, i steal having problemes with the mp3
[02:57] <kalm> normally with xine, there is nothing to do no?
[02:57] <Healot> kalm: you need "libxine-extracodecs" with 6.06
[02:57] <solomonuk> adept says firefox is installed
[02:58] <thoreauputic> kalm:  install libxine-extracodecs
[02:58] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:58] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:58] <fannagoganna> !info amarok
[02:58] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[02:58] <fannagoganna> !info kvirc
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> ! info libinstrudeo edgy
[02:58] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2366 kB, installed size 7108 kB
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> !info libinstrudeo edgy
[02:58] <ubotu> Package libinstrudeo does not exist in edgy
[02:59] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, lookin the menu / interenet...you'll see Firefox
[03:00] <Healot> !info mirc
[03:00] <ubotu> Package mirc does not exist in dapper
[03:00] <thoreauputic> what a surprise ;|
[03:00] <BluesKaj> firefox prolly has a different logo
[03:00] <fannagoganna> isn't mirc the windows IRC client?
[03:00] <Chousuke> yes.
[03:00] <thoreauputic> exactly
[03:01] <Chousuke> _a_ windows irc client :P
[03:01] <fannagoganna> so I would be surprised if it's in any Linux distribution
[03:01] <fannagoganna> there
[03:01] <fannagoganna> there's xchat which works very well for me
[03:01] <thoreauputic> fannagoganna: indeed
[03:01] <BluesKaj> there is no mirc in linux
[03:01] <Chousuke> mirc still has pretty crappy UTF-8 support.
[03:02] <solomonuk> BluesKaj: its not in the menu matey
[03:02] <fannagoganna> and the latest versions of kvirc which are very very polished
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Konverstaion is my fave ..works well...no server lisy=t included is a problem for some tho
[03:02] <Chousuke> it cuts lines per byte, instead of per character, which results in weird trouble with multibyte characters. :)
[03:02] <solomonuk> thats what I can't understand its Kubuntu I am using btw
[03:02] <fannagoganna> how about gaim, is it able to transfer/receive files in IRC?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> did you look in the internet list ?
[03:02] <Chousuke> fannagoganna: should be.
[03:02] <Chousuke> DCC is quite a basic feature.
[03:02] <solomonuk> yes under internet
[03:02] <MilhousePunkRock> What's wrong with Konversation, I like it...
[03:03] <fannagoganna> well, konversation does not have a way to connect through a proxy
[03:03] <fannagoganna> that is, it doesn't have a connection option of proxy connections
[03:03] <fannagoganna> kvirc and xchat do
[03:03] <voicu> hi, i'd like to know if there is a log kept for the messages i get at login (in the console). for example, i'd like to see the entire list of failed logins. is it possible?
[03:03] <Healot> use xchat or kvirc
[03:03] <fannagoganna> the only way to use konversation through a proxy is to setup a global proxy in KDE
[03:04] <Healot> or ksirc
[03:04] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, use the run command , type firefox , see what happens
[03:05] <solomonuk> does not understand the command
[03:05] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, it's in the menu,the lil blue gear thing ..click on it
[03:06] <Healot> kde menu->internet->firefox
[03:06] <thoreauputic> voicu:  laslog and faillog
[03:06] <thoreauputic> umm lastlog sorry
[03:06] <solomonuk> nope deffinately not in the menu
[03:07] <BluesKaj> NO RUN COMMAND ?
[03:07] <solomonuk> yeah there is the run command but firefox aint there anywhere in the menu
[03:08] <BluesKaj> click on the run command and type firefox in the dialog box
[03:09] <solomonuk> I already have tried that it says it dont understand the command
[03:09] <voicu> thoreauputic, thanks
[03:09] <thoreauputic> voicu: your're welcome :)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> bah ignore typos please
[03:09] <BluesKaj> well try "adept" again and reinstall Firefox
[03:10] <Healot> hmm
[03:10] <solomonuk> 1 sec I will give that a go.
[03:10] <Healot> just refresh the menu
[03:10] <Healot> or logoff/logon again
[03:12] <solomonuk> BluesKaj: its no good Im not sure what Im doing in adept, i requested it's removal and then requested it's install it syas no change i dunno
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ok do what Healot suggested , log out and back in again
[03:14] <solomonuk> actually i think whats installed is just the language package for firefox and not firefox itself
[03:14] <BluesKaj> then check the menu again
[03:14] <solomonuk> okay
[03:14] <BluesKaj> if adept says Firefox  is installed then it should be
[03:16] <solomonuk> nope still no change
[03:18] <BluesKaj> check adept again and make sure that firefox with no suffixes or prefixes is listed as installed
[03:22] <ubuntu_> Hi, I am currently on a Kubuntu live cd and there is an installer on the desktop... if I install Kubuntu will it delete Windows?
[03:24] <sebr> ubuntu_: how confident are you with using a partition manager?
[03:24] <sebr> ubuntu_: if your entire disk is being used by windows, then there is no way of doing it, afaik
[03:24] <ubuntu_> not very, this is my dad's PC
[03:24] <sebr> you will have to resize the disc and make a new partition with the empty space
[03:24] <sebr> not even sure if its possible with ntfs
[03:25] <Healot> ubuntu installer (desktop and alternate) usually will not touch existing partition that has files on it.
[03:25] <Healot> ntfs can be resize with the alternate cd installer...
[03:25] <ubuntu_> I think there is 2 partitions anyway so maybe I won't need to do anything
[03:25] <ubuntu_> brb
[03:26] <BusMaster> hi. i installed Ubuntu and I have the kubuntu CD. I want to install the kde suite from it. how do I do it? I tried adding the cdrom to sources.list;apt-get update;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. but it simply says package not found
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: It can be resized with qtparted (easiest way to do it is from the gparted live cd though)
[03:26] <ubuntu_> Healot : a bit like Apple bootcamp?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, the gparted is easier to use , but less flexible
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> BlueKaj: I have never used either but do you know if qtparted supports resizing reiserfs ?
[03:31] <grizzly> I am getting this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19011 , when I run the app 'wayv' . Any clues plz ?
[03:31] <grizzly> Also I am using  a suspend2 patched kernel ( if it matters)
[03:32] <BluesKaj> yes h3sp4wn, it's a partition magic clone written for linux ...I don't use it much cuz it's dangerous
[03:32] <blackflag> hello all :)
[03:32] <ubuntu_> how do I see the HDDs?
[03:32] <raphink> ubuntu_: the partitions you mean?
[03:32] <blackflag> I want to copy an audio cd
[03:32] <blackflag> but I can not mount it
[03:33] <ubuntu_> yes raphink
[03:33] <blackflag> what is trhe best way to copy an audio-cd?
[03:33] <ubuntu_> I can see the home folder
[03:33] <blackflag> can someone help?
[03:33] <raphink> ubuntu_: cat /proc/partitions
[03:34] <grizzly> blackflag: dd ?
[03:34] <raphink> blackflag: use K3b
[03:34] <blackflag> I tried K3b but it creates me a 1.1GB iso
[03:35] <raphink> blackflag: huh?
[03:35] <raphink> what did you do?
[03:35] <blackflag> I tried to write an Iso file from cd
[03:35] <raphink> blackflag: what do you want to do? duplicate the CD? extract it? copy it to an iso image?
[03:35] <blackflag> you mean; i did it wrong?
[03:35] <blackflag> copy to iso
[03:36] <raphink> blackflag: then use dd, as grizzly said
[03:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to use a bootsplash screen that was created for SUSE?
[03:36] <raphink> that'll be easier
[03:36] <raphink> no MilhousePunkRock
[03:36] <raphink> because SuSE uses bootsplash
[03:36] <raphink> whereas ubuntu uses usplash
[03:36] <grizzly> blackflag: google for "how to do everything with dd" or something
[03:36] <raphink> if you want to use splashy, you can
[03:36] <raphink> but I think y ou need to recompile a kernel for that
[03:36] <raphink> blackflag: or "man dd"
[03:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Aaaah... Thanks for that anyway, raphink
[03:37] <grizzly> I am getting this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19011 , when I run the app 'wayv' . Anybody plz ?
[03:37] <raphink> MilhousePunkRock: SuSE's splashy is kernel-space, whereas usplash is user-space
[03:37] <blackflag> okay Ill try dd
[03:37] <blackflag> but what is when I want to extract it
[03:38] <raphink> blackflag: if you want to extract, you can simply use Konqueror
[03:38] <raphink> with audiocd:/
[03:38] <raphink> it's a very easy way to do it
[03:38] <ubuntu_> I think i'll give up on installing Kubuntu on this PC, too scared of breaking something :) hopefully get round to installing it on a thinkpad someday
[03:38] <BluesKaj> grizzly,what is wayv ?
[03:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Doesn't look like kde-look.org has usplash screens...
[03:38] <grizzly> mouse gestuer app :D
[03:38] <raphink> ubuntu_: too scared of what?
[03:39] <ubuntu_> deleting my dad's data some how
[03:39] <raphink> hehe
[03:39] <ubuntu_> I would put Kubuntu on my intel iMac but the drivers aren't there
[03:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu_: What kind of ThinkPad? I run it on a T23, if you don't need suspend/resume, everthing is fine
[03:39] <grizzly> ubuntu_: for that try to learn how to backup and restore your mbr, and everything sould be fine
[03:39] <raphink> what drivers ubuntu_?
[03:39] <ubuntu_> drivers in general, wireless and the like
[03:40] <grizzly> BluesKaj: what does that error mean? cld a patched kernel be somehow responsible?
[03:40] <ubuntu_> Milhouse: a X32 hopefully :)
[03:40] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: All you need is elilo to boot on the intel imac
[03:40] <blackflag> okay thanks going to try it :))
[03:40] <raphink> ubuntu_: doesn't seem true
[03:40] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, wha not DL and burn GParted and then boot it up to look at your HDD , then you can resize the NFTS partition  and make room for linux
[03:40] <drbreen_> blueskaj: because the ubuntu live cd has gparted already ?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> ERR NTFS
[03:41] <drbreen_> and kubuntu has qtparted and they bot can resitze ntfs
[03:41] <BluesKaj> better yet :)
[03:41] <ubuntu_> because it's not my PC Blues :P I think it's fat32 anyway (which is probably even easier but err)
[03:41] <ubuntu_> h3sp4wn : link please :)
[03:41] <BluesKaj> I thought it had QTParted , not GParted
[03:41] <tic_> how come my xrandr probe the wrong physical size of my laptop screen? anyone
[03:42] <drbreen_> tic_: what does it say
[03:42] <BluesKaj> what windows OS , ubuntu_ ?
[03:42] <tic_> it says: 0   1280 x 1024   ( 402mm x 302mm )  *50
[03:42] <ubuntu_> XP SP2
[03:42] <BluesKaj> that's NTFS
[03:43] <tic_> my laptop screen is 1400x1050 but when probing that res. it's out of size
[03:43] <tic_> so I guessing it got the physical size wrong
[03:43] <ubuntu_> ahh the reason I thought it might be fat32 is because (for some reason) it's divided into 2 20GB partitions for a total of 40GB
[03:43] <tic_> but I really cant figure out why
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: Just google elilo imac intel
[03:44] <tic_> drbreen: I think it should be:0   1400 x 1050   ( 474mm x 356mm )  *50
[03:45] <BluesKaj> drbreen_ , GParted has to be installed from the repos , it doesn't come with the install cd
[03:45] <drbreen_> blueskay: oh i di not know that. what is then the program the installer uses ?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> adept
[03:46] <BluesKaj> oh sorry, QTparted I think, not sure tho
[03:46] <raphink> drbreen : the installer is debian-installer
[03:46] <BluesKaj> I used GParted to setup the partitions before installing
[03:47] <raphink> and to partition, it uses partman iirc
[03:47] <raphink> for the console installer
[03:47] <raphink> the graphic install for Ubuntu uses gparted, and qtparted for Kubuntu
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> I thought the live cd installer didnt use debian-installer (would explain why its unreliable often)
[03:48] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:48] <raphink> the live cd installer is ubiquity
[03:55] <ricardo> hi..does anybody use MATLAB under WINE?
[04:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, seems kde-look has got a total of 3 usplash themes...
[04:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it possible to convert a Bootsplash to usplash? If so, is someone capable of doing that?
[04:06] <danl> how do i give a none root user access to ports below 1024?
[04:07] <ubuntu___> hi guy, i just started play with edgy eft and i see there is a problem with adept
[04:08] <Agios> there are undoubtedly a lot of problems with edgy eft. It is in development status.
[04:08] <ubuntu___> and i want to know is their a workaround for it
[04:08] <Agios> yes, install dapper drake
[04:09] <ubuntu___> i my using the livecd, right now
[04:09] <Melody^> heya how can I install Kubuntu onto a laptop that doesn't have an optical drive?
[04:10] <fannagoganna> !info konversation
[04:10] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB
[04:10] <Agios> try apt-get instead of adept
[04:10] <ubuntu___> ok thanx
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu___: If you want to use binary drivers (fglrx or nvidia) dont try to use edgy at the moment
[04:15] <ubuntu___> ok thanx
[04:16] <lmodl> hallo
[04:16] <ubuntu___> hi
[04:16] <SeanTater> hello
[04:16] <ricardo> im trying to get MATLAB working under WINE....does anybody knows how to do it without -nojvm?
[04:17] <lmodl> jeli neko iz hr
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !hu
[04:19] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[04:19] <lmodl> neko iz bosne
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !pl
[04:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !hr
[04:19] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[04:21] <blackflag> Hello all .)
[04:21] <blackflag> :)
[04:22] <blackflag> I just trying to burn an iso - image with dd
[04:22] <blackflag> when I do:
[04:22] <blackflag> dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/kde-stefan/
[04:22] <blackflag> I get
[04:22] <blackflag> dd: Lesen von ?/dev/hda?: Input/output error
[04:23] <blackflag> Its an audo cd
[04:23] <TD> BluesKaj: poke
[04:23] <blackflag> audio cd
[04:23] <TD> BluesKaj: you there?
[04:23] <blackflag> what is wrong?
[04:24] <blackflag> can someone help?
[04:24] <Gaaston> blackflag: nothing is right
[04:24] <blackflag> okay, what is correct
[04:24] <blackflag> ?
[04:24] <Gaaston> run k3b, that's all
[04:25] <blackflag> but I dont get an iso
[04:25] <blackflag> it makes a copy
[04:25] <Gaaston> k3b burns what you want to burn
[04:25] <Gaaston> iso or not
[04:26] <blackflag> okay, what is the correct way to create an iso?
[04:26] <Gaaston> from what?
[04:26] <blackflag> from an audio cd
[04:27] <DarthPolly> hello
[04:27] <Gaaston> audio CD doesn't contain any iso filesystem
[04:27] <thoreauputic> blackflag: no file system on an audio CD
[04:27] <tic_> howcome I cant get my screen resolution right, xrandr thinks my laptop screen is smaller so my tray is outside the screen when running 1400x1050?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> blackflag: you probably want to copy it / clone it
[04:27] <Gaaston> from an audio CD you can only get audio data's
[04:28] <blackflag> but I wnat to create an image from an audio cd
[04:28] <blackflag> On M$ tzhere was clonecd
[04:28] <Agios> ou rip it then. you will end up with one file er track
[04:29] <Gaaston> blackflag: I think k3b can do that
[04:29] <Agios> one file per track
[04:29] <Gaaston> blackflag: just click "copy CD" and check "only create image"
[04:29] <blackflag> I did that
[04:30] <DarthPolly> I want to install my kubuntu, but the system doesn't recognize my disk. How can I make it work?
[04:30] <blackflag> but its not an image file then
[04:30] <Gaaston> it is files
[04:31] <blackflag> is there no need to create iso's?
[04:31] <GIGANTOR> download ISO from website, burn to disk
[04:31] <GIGANTOR> boot from it
[04:31] <Gaaston> YOU CAN NOT CREATE ISO FROM AUDIO DISK!!!!
[04:32] <GIGANTOR> if you're on a Dell, hit F12 to get your boot options...
[04:32] <Gaaston> there is only sound on audio cd's, no ISO filesystem at all!
[04:32] <tic_> radeontool stretch off decreased my screen how do I adjust it to the right physical size?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> blackflag:  dd if=/dev/crom of=/home/you/dumpedfile  should work too
[04:32] <thoreauputic> erm /dev/cdrom
[04:33] <DarthPolly> Looks like kubuntu has not the right drivers. I'm using a SATAII HD
[04:34] <Gaaston> blackflag: k3b will create wav files for each track on the CD
[04:34] <blackflag> thoreauputic: thats what I did
[04:34] <Gaaston> blackflag: you can burn those files, it will create a good copy
[04:34] <blackflag> I gives me tne an read error I/O error
[04:34] <Gaaston> blackflag, it is not what you did
[04:35] <blackflag> I tried both /dd if=/dev/cdrom an dev/hda
[04:35] <blackflag> all the same
[04:35] <Gaaston> blackflag: what is the problem having one file per track?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> blackflag: yeah, I think if there's no file system it won't do it - just tried it here
[04:36] <blackflag> an image is easy to burn
[04:36] <Gaaston> blackflag: you will just get one image per track :)
[04:37] <Gaaston> you can tar them
[04:37] <blackflag> an image per cd would be much better :)
[04:38] <blackflag> or having the choice to do it
[04:38] <thoreauputic> blackflag: you can rip to a .wav file and use that I think - but k3b will happily duplicate CDs ( I've done it here many times)
[04:38] <BluesKaj> won't k3b copy mp3 files directly ?
[04:39] <blackflag> but I want to pu the image on an FTP
[04:39] <blackflag> so a friend can download it and burn it
[04:39] <Gaaston> cdrdao can do nice image+toc pair
[04:40] <BluesKaj> why not dcc the file to your friend , blackflag...safer
[04:40] <Gaaston> but it's still two files
[04:40] <Ignite_> BluesKaj, try installing libk3b2-mp3 (with sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3) if you are wanting to make an audio CD with k3b
[04:40] <thoreauputic> so just archive the files in a bundle - your friend can extract it and burn it
[04:40] <thoreauputic> zip the files
[04:40] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I install a KDM splashscreen from a .tar.bz2?
[04:40] <thoreauputic> if he is using windows
[04:41] <blackflag> okay, Ill try to create a zip
[04:41] <blackflag> ;)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> Ignite_, I was merely wondering why k3b wants to convert mp3 to wav files as default audio files ?
[04:42] <Agios> because the tracks on a CD are wav files.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> standard Cds use .wav
[04:42] <BluesKaj> gonna check the settings ...I don't do mp3 unlewss it's just talk ... I'm a lossless hifi type guy when it comes to music.
[04:43] <gatekeeper> Ignite_: thanx from that usefull gem of info on K3b and mp3 :-)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , I'm sure most ppl are aware that cds use wav
[04:45] <Gaaston> cd's doesn't really use the .wav format, but the default encoding of wav files is the same (PCM)
[04:45] <BluesKaj> I have this comedy album that doesn't require hifi so I was gonna copy it to mp3 to fit all the tracks that would otherwise be too large for a single cd
[04:46] <BluesKaj> yes Gaaston ..PCM redbook  :)
[04:47] <danl> is there anyway to setup a dns cache on my computer that it will check before checking the dns server?
[04:51] <uniq> danl: yes, take a look at the package 'pdnsd' in the repositories.
[04:51] <danl> thank you uniq
[04:51] <uniq> you're welcome :)
[04:51] <danl> why isps dns server crashes all the time
[04:51] <uniq> having a local cache often makes surfing faster.
[04:52] <danl> omg, perfect, exactly what i needed
[04:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Why do I fail to locate the kdm theme thing in the KDE Control Center?
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> bind9 is not that hard to setup as a caching dns server
[04:55] <danl> uniq, one question, is all the config for it and such cli?
[04:56] <uniq> danl: yes. but don't let that scare you off
[04:57] <danl> it won't i like cli :-) reading the man page now for how to setup
[04:57] <uniq> danl: didn't it setup everything itself?
[04:57] <danl> just making sure :-)
[04:58] <danl> ima lil ocd
[04:58] <danl> so it's good to go now?
[04:59] <uniq> probably, yes.
[04:59] <danl> awesome...
[04:59] <danl> thanks
[04:59] <danl> au revior
[04:59] <uniq> now, just set your primary nameserver to 127.0.0.1
[05:09] <juan> Hi
[05:10] <ricardo> hi
[05:10] <juan> could you tell me how to install java virtual machine in Kubuntu?
[05:10] <juan> if it is possible, of course..
[05:10] <juan> :)
[05:11] <ricardo> does anybody know how to select a default jvm between the installed ones?
[05:13] <juan> HOLA?????
[05:13] <ricardo> hola
[05:14] <juan> hablabas en espaniol, y yo matandome escribiendo en ingles!!
[05:15] <ricardo> es que en realidad hay que hablar ingles ...pero como nadie responde tampoco es tna grave
[05:15] <Skrot> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <juan> gracias! but her we dont get help anyway!
[05:16] <ricardo> es el bot...ni le respondas...
[05:16] <juan> jajajaja
[05:16] <gatekeeper> juan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:17] <juan> hay 5 monos en el canal espaniol!!
[05:18] <juan> thank you gatekeeper!!!!!!!!!
[05:18] <gatekeeper> juan: yw :-)
[05:19] <gatekeeper> juan: to can teach me spanish I need to learn it :-)
[05:19] <gatekeeper> juan: ooops you can teach me spanish I need to learn it :-)
[05:19] <juan> ok, with pleasuare!!
[05:21] <juan> where are you from gate?
[05:26] <Buczeq> yoo
[05:29] <deuce868> anyone know how to get the laptop hardware keys for volume going in kubuntu for an HP 5000 series?
[05:29] <deuce868> I see a couple laptop button packages, but nadda for HP
[05:30] <abattoir> deuce868: pavillion?
[05:30] <deuce868> yea
[05:31] <BluesKaj> deuce868, have you checked system settings / regional accessibility/ keyboard settings /keboard  hardware list
[05:31] <deuce868> I swear this volume should go higher than it is, but the sound is maxed in the app and in the panel volume aplet
[05:31] <abattoir> deuce868: Kcontrol->Regional and Accessibility->Keyboard layout->Keyboard model
[05:32] <deuce868> abattoir, ok, I gotcha. I don't see my model, but maybe something is close.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> see? , great minds think alike ...I won't finish the phrase since it's so negative :)
[05:33] <deuce868> abattoir, this will work for keys above the keyboard though? the ones in row with the power button?
[05:33] <abattoir> deuce868: yeah, just take the pavillion entry there, should work :)
[05:33] <abattoir> BluesKaj: heh :)
[05:33] <BluesKaj> parts of my compaq KB buttons work , but not all ...at least the vol and mute buttons do
[05:36] <kalm> hello, gam_server use 10% of my cpu, is it really necessary,how can I remove it ( remove the package is impossible cause of the dependancies)
[05:40] <grizzly> mount -a gives:  /de/hdc does not exist . Now how can I know where my cdrom device is ?
[05:42] <grizzly> as in , what should put in mount /dev/*** /mnt/cd to mount my cd ?
[05:42] <grizzly> is there any command/ proc file to know this ?
[05:50] <Agios> kalm: I mv gam_server gam_server.dead and kill -9 <pid of gam_server>
[05:51] <kalm> Oo
[05:52] <kalm> so removed it
[05:52] <kalm> is it safe, what are the consequencies
[05:52] <Agios> I would have renamed it so you had a copy just in case. But whatever.
[05:53] <Agios> I haven't seen any negative consequences. Did it a couple of weeks ago.
[05:55] <kalm> ok, thanks, that's strange
[05:57] <deuce868> sweet, volume buttons now working. Thanks abattoir
[05:57] <abattoir> deuce868: nice :), i read about your other message only later..
[05:57] <abattoir> deuce868: i dont think those buttons will work... you can manually map them though
[05:58] <abattoir> *read your other message, rather
[06:00] <_Shade_> I need some good p2p clients for ubuntu. Could you advice some ?
[06:00] <tristanmike> Azureus, limewire, nicotine
[06:01] <tristanmike> ktorrent
[06:01] <abattoir> apollon too
[06:01] <tristanmike> oh, yeah, forgot about that one ;)
[06:01] <abattoir> :)
[06:02] <_Shade_> apollon doesn't work for me :(
[06:03] <abattoir> _Shade_: any errors?
[06:03] <_Shade_> "i couldn't locate your gIFT installation (...)"
[06:03] <_Shade_> it has been installed though
[06:04] <abattoir> _Shade_: aah, that's a common thing.. did you try manually pointing it to the gift libs?
[06:04] <_Shade_> i don't know how can i do it
[06:05] <abattoir> _Shade_: sorry, dont have it installed currently, so dont know the exact steps, but somewhere in Configure Apollon
[06:05] <abattoir> it's also a long time since i used it
[06:05] <_Shade_> abattoir: and how can i locate my gIFT path ?
[06:05] <abattoir> something under plugins, i guess
[06:05] <abattoir> _Shade_: iirc, /usr/lib/giFT ?
[06:06] <abattoir> _Shade_: could you give me a few minutes, am dist-upgrading, after that i'll install apollon and tell you exactly..
[06:06] <_Shade_> abattoir: sure
[06:06] <abattoir> _Shade_: i'll ping you when i've got it...
[06:07] <abattoir> _Shade_: btw, you installed it from the repos?
[06:07] <_Shade_> abattoir: yeah
[06:07] <GIGANTOR> has anyone here installed vmware player through Adept?
[06:07] <abattoir> _Shade_: does it have the fasttrack plugin?
[06:07] <abattoir> _Shade_: cause i remember compiling that
[06:08] <Seikon> sers
[06:08] <_Shade_> i have no idea... to be honest
[06:09] <JonB> hi, i tried both the normal and safe mode in graphics and it appears my kubuntu 6.06 does not reach the X11 desktop
[06:09] <obf213> anyone have any idea why my wifi can find my homenetwork but all of a sudden wont connect
[06:09] <abattoir> _Shade_: oh, ok
[06:09] <abattoir> JonB: the live cd?
[06:10] <_Shade_> my kubuntu goes extremelly unstable after a try of launching apollon... could be a reboot needed
[06:10] <JonB> abattoir: i dont think so
[06:10] <JonB> abattoir: filename is kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[06:11] <abattoir> JonB: then an installed version?
[06:11] <abattoir> JonB: yes, that's the live CD :)
[06:11] <JonB> abattoir: i'm trying to install it
[06:11] <JonB> abattoir: okay
[06:11] <abattoir> JonB: you entered 'Start Kubuntu' right?
[06:11] <abattoir> on bootup, that is
[06:12] <JonB> abattoir: there was some menu system at boot and i choosed the top one and the 2. one i guess they were start kubuntu and start kubuntu save graphics
[06:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Re everyone
[06:12] <abattoir> JonB: are you on very old hardware? any errors?
[06:12] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[06:13] <JonB> abattoir: it does not seem to progress beyond the kubuntu logo and the blue bar
[06:13] <abattoir> JonB: do you know what the last message displayed is?
[06:13] <JonB> abattoir: p3 1ghz, matrox g400 agp
[06:13] <JonB> abattoir: i'll boot again and check
[06:13] <abattoir> JonB: it should work w/ that...
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: the messages disappear
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: i have 2 other pci cards in it
[06:14] <abattoir> JonB: do you get a shell prompt
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: pci graphics cards that is
[06:14] <MilhousePunkRock> finally it's raining here...
[06:14] <abattoir> JonB: aah, that *might* explain it
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: but i want to use my 5 monitors
[06:15] <JonB> abattoir: i can get to a console if i press ctrl+alt+f1
[06:15] <abattoir> JonB: did you try to start X manually?
[06:15] <JonB> abattoir: yes, startx, but that did not appear to work either
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I find the kdm theme manager the howto for the KDM Screen I want to install mentions?
[06:16] <abattoir> JonB: any specific errors?
[06:16] <JonB> abattoir: i guess i should try to find a screw driver and temporarely remove the extra graphics cards
[06:16] <JonB> abattoir: i dont remember, let me get back to you when it has booted up
[06:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i think it is a separate program, found in kde-apps/kde-look
[06:17] <abattoir> JonB: yes, i'd suggest you do the former first :)
[06:17] <JonB> abattoir: ps ax does not appear to show any X process
[06:17] <JonB> abattoir: it is in console now
[06:17] <antonnio> how to know what addresses and protocols use msn messanger to work ?
[06:17] <MilhousePunkRock> thx abattoir, I'll look there
[06:18] <_Shade_> abattoir: i've pointed the gIFT location, but there's an error anyways
[06:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: a different one?
[06:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: did you run the gift-setup tool ?
[06:19] <JonB> abattoir: the Xorg.0.log file seems to suggest it starts with a pci card, device S3 inc 86c764/765 trio32/64/64V+
[06:19] <_Shade_> abattoir: no
[06:19] <_Shade_> should i ? :)
[06:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Re _Shade_
[06:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: close apollon, and do that, might work :)
[06:20] <JonB> abattoir: i did try to switch to another vga out, but that did not work
[06:20] <_Shade_> MilhousePunkRock: 'ey :)
[06:21] <doppelganger> whats the pastebin url?
[06:21] <JonB> abattoir: i'll try with that screw driver
[06:21] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:21] <abattoir> JonB: :)
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca is a fast and reliable one
[06:21] <abattoir> Hawkwind_Lappy: internet problems?
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: "This is only for Breezy since the kcontrol-kdmtheme package is already in Dapper (since 1.0.1)."
[06:21] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yes :(
[06:22] <JonB> abattoir: i was expecting it to try the AGP card first though
[06:22] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I think they almost have it fixed though
[06:22] <abattoir> !info kcontrol-kdmtheme
[06:22] <ubotu> kcontrol-kdmtheme: a theme manager for KDM. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 220 kB
[06:22] <antonnio> i want to configure msn messanger into my firewall using iptables and not proxy server, what protocols and address use msn messanger to let it to work
[06:22] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ^^^^
[06:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Ah, optional... Time to meet my friend apt-get
[06:23] <_Shade_> abattoir: denied operation (1) - that's the error message
[06:23] <doppelganger> alright, well i'll wait in line  ;)
[06:23] <abattoir> _Shade_: for gift-setup ?
[06:23] <_Shade_> i did what you said but it comes to nothing
[06:23] <abattoir> _
[06:23] <abattoir> _Shade_: you mean there is no cmd like that?
[06:23] <_Shade_> abattoir: gift setup gives 1 as well
[06:24] <doppelganger> if anyone else (i see abattoir is busy) can sort through this and tell me what i should, i'd be much in debt to you.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19020
[06:24] <abattoir> _Shade_: ok, let me first get these downloads done... then i'll install it and get back to you :)
[06:24] <doppelganger> i'm installing vmware-player
[06:25] <abattoir> doppelganger: i think you need the kernel source
[06:25] <doppelganger> which hangs in adept at 33%, and when i hit show details it's stopping at the license agreement. So i apt-get it, and this is what i end up with
[06:25] <abattoir> !info linux-source
[06:25] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:26] <lens> I just installed KDE yesterday and I love it, but when I click on add / remove programs the choices are so LIMITED compared to gnome, how do I populate the programs to add?
[06:26] <doppelganger> thank you abattoir, i'll give it a whirl
[06:27] <MilhousePunkRock> lens If you know what you are looking for, you can always try adept or apt-get
[06:27] <lens> MilhousePunkRock... ok, what about synaptic?  where is it?
[06:28] <doppelganger> whew, this is gonna take a while  ;P
[06:28] <abattoir> doppelganger: you might also need the linux-headers-<arch> package
[06:28] <MilhousePunkRock> I think it's not there by default... try "sudo apt-get install synaptic" on the console, lens
[06:28] <uniq> lens: go to kmenu -> system -> adept
[06:28] <abattoir> lens: you have universe/multiverse enabled right?
[06:28] <lens> ok
[06:28] <lens> yes
[06:29] <lens> according to the kde unoffical FAQ
[06:29] <abattoir> lens: aah ok, you were in add/remove progs... :P
[06:29] <lens> yes.
[06:29] <xylus_> > hey guys
[06:29] <xylus_> [09:26]  <xylus__> i have build essential but i still cant play avi files
[06:29] <xylus_> [09:26]  <xylus__> what should i get?
[06:29] <xylus_> [09:27]  <xylus__> also ny idea how to extract or burn bin cue files with linx i havent tryed yet but im sure i need something
[06:29] <bunta> Small question, how can I install kubuntu using a netimage? (mini.iso)
[06:29] <lens> ok, I will look at adept now.
[06:29] <MilhousePunkRock> xylus_: what kind of avi? divx? xvid?
[06:29] <obf213> anyone know of any other dual core cpu monitor besides wmsmpmon
[06:30] <eeos> hi there
[06:30] <uniq> xylus_: use k3b to burn bin/cue.
[06:30] <xylus_> im not sure milhose
[06:30] <xylus_> it just says avi
[06:30] <eeos> are there problems in using cups on kubuntu 6.06?
[06:30] <obf213> maybe one that can dock and nothave to be in the toolbar
[06:30] <uniq> obf213: htop (console, but very good)
[06:30] <bunta> guys? :o
[06:30] <eeos> I cannot install the printer
[06:30] <obf213> uniq what does that mean
[06:30] <abattoir> xylus_: i though all your files played yesterday...
[06:30] <obf213> is that a command i enter in the console
[06:30] <xylus_> any way to just simpley extract bin cue files?
[06:30] <xylus_> abattoir no i o nly tryed dvd
[06:30] <uniq> obf213: yes.
[06:30] <xylus_> i just downloaded a avi file
[06:31] <xylus_> and it wont play i get sound but no vid
[06:31] <obf213> command htop not found
[06:31] <obf213> do apt get it or soething
[06:31] <abattoir> xylus_: werent you the person who downloaded 'essential' from mplayerhq ?
[06:31] <uniq> obf213: correct, apt-get it.
[06:31] <xylus_> yeah that was me
[06:31] <xylus_> i have build essential on here
[06:31] <abattoir> xylus_: you are playing in kaffeine
[06:31] <xylus_> yes
[06:31] <abattoir> xylus_: well, that is not build-essential :)
[06:32] <abattoir> xylus_: have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[06:32] <Viper550> Hello everyone!
[06:32] <bunta> guys? ;o
[06:32] <uniq> !netinstall > bunta
[06:32] <uniq> gah.
[06:33] <MilhousePunkRock> xylus_: maybe you need the divx or xvid codec
[06:33] <lens> I went to adept but it looks the same as add/remove programs and "sudo apt-get install synaptic" doesn't work :(
[06:34] <systest> Expect it's a faq, but can't seem to find the docs to configure printing.  Would some one please direct me to the right doc?
[06:34] <abattoir> lens: you have gnome and kde both installed right?
[06:34] <lens> I don't think Gnome is installed.
[06:35] <abattoir> lens: what does 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' say?
[06:35] <lens> this is fresh install from a kubuntu DVD
[06:35] <obf213> uniq i ran command htop after the apt get and nothign happens
[06:35] <abattoir> lens: pastebin the error if it is long
[06:36] <abattoir> !paste
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> lens Did you update your sources list?
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !sources list
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !sources
[06:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[06:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: synaptic should be in main
[06:36] <abattoir> !info synaptic
[06:36] <lens> It's not very long... it says...
[06:36] <lens> hasmademethirsty@A-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:36] <lens> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:36] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[06:36] <lens> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:37] <abattoir> lens: ok, close adept/add/remove programes
[06:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Iens, you need to close adept when running apt-get
[06:37] <Viper550> erm, sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <abattoir> *programs
[06:37] <lens> abattoir ok
[06:37] <ubuntu> hello\
[06:37] <Viper550> I used to make that stupid mistake sometimes under Ubuntu
[06:37] <uniq> obf213: from within konsole?
[06:37] <obf213> o no
[06:38] <obf213> i ran in run command
[06:39] <obf213> linux seems extremely innefficient with dual cores
[06:39] <lens> abbattoir ok, I closed adept, now I got a new error : the package is missing, obsolete or available from another source.
[06:39] <obf213> all im doing is ripping a cd and one cpu is at 95 or something
[06:39] <abattoir> obf213: you have the 686 kernel?
[06:39] <ubuntu> hola cabrones
[06:39] <ubuntu> pr0n
[06:39] <obf213> yes, or htop wouldnt show two processors
[06:39] <ubuntu> porn
[06:39] <obf213> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 750/1001MB, 122 proc's, 44.33min up
[06:40] <abattoir> aah, obf213 is timi
[06:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Re timi
[06:40] <obf213> hey
[06:40] <lens> abbattoir I did 'add extra repositories' from the KDE FAQ, I figured it would add universe and multiverse.
[06:40] <ironfroggy> I am trying to print something with the 2-per-page option, but the preview is still just showing me one-page each. is there a way to see a preview of this?
[06:40] <abattoir> lens: ok, enable repositories, as MilhousePunkRock said
[06:40] <abattoir> !source-o-matic > lens
[06:41] <_Shade_> abattoir: how long will it last yet ?
[06:41] <abattoir> lens: i guess you have the dvd local repo alone enabled, and not main from the ubuntu archives
[06:42] <lens> abattoir OK, so if I follow the directions on the link you gave me, I should be ok?
[06:42] <abattoir> _Shade_: :P, its a big download on my slow connection... :(
[06:42] <abattoir> _Shade_: else could you check back tomorrow?
[06:42] <abattoir> lens: yes, enable most of the repos, you'll need to do them in the future anyways
[06:43] <xylus__> hey ab
[06:43] <xylus__> i donwloaded mplayer via atp
[06:43] <abattoir> lens: stuff like universe, multiverse, latest-amarok, latest-kde etc.
[06:43] <xylus__> but its not listend under kmenu
[06:43] <xylus__> where would i find the executeable or link at bro?>
[06:43] <lens> abattoir... ok, shit, if I install the wrong repos it can mess stuff up can't it?
[06:43] <xylus__> also its not listed under kde componnents also nor is divx formats :(
[06:44] <xylus__> naw just install the right ones lens
[06:44] <xylus__> change yr .list file
[06:44] <xylus__> to whats on the ubuntu website
[06:44] <_Shade_> abattoir: ok
[06:44] <lens> abattoir should I check Include updates and include security updates?
[06:45] <xylus__> where do i find mplayer ;(
[06:45] <xylus__> its installed
[06:45] <xylus__> not listed in kmenu :(
[06:45] <Dodger> i've got it under Multimedia
[06:45] <_Shade_> abattoir: or i can get another p2p... the problem is i don't know any except limewire, but there's no limewire on the repos
[06:47] <lens> abattoir, my biggest problem is I'm not sure if doing stuff the 'gnome way' is going to screw up this KDE install... I WOULD just go to the huge ubuntu wiki and install repo's that way but I'm worried that if I do it the "gnome way" it will mess up KDE?
[06:48] <lens> is it safe to use the huge Ubuntu wiki with KDE?
[06:48] <MilhousePunkRock> lens: Everything "under the hood" is the same for all *untus
[06:49] <lens> gotchya... ok, then I know how to enable the repositories my prefered way... thank you!
[06:49] <Viper550> Yes, Kubuntu just comes with KDE by default, Ubuntu comes with Gnome, and Xubuntu comes with XFCE
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone have experiences with e17?
[06:50] <MuJ> yes.. /join #e
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: What do you need to know about it ? (I use it soley stopped using kde)
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Nah, that was a "just in case" question...
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Or rather: h3sp4wn, is it any good?
[06:51] <eeos> hi there. I have roblems with cups under kubuntu 6.06
[06:52] <eeos> I cannot even see localhost:631 unde konqueror
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> Its fine seems reasonably stable in normal use (The only time you get any crashes is if you are messing with it alot) its fast (even though it is considered pre alpha its alot more stable than most pre alpha software)
[06:52] <eeos> any cluee?
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: I am going to use it with the other distro I will set up soon...
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Any distro that includes e17 will be quite out of date (best to build from cvs as its changing so much)
[06:54] <Viper550> Anyone remember my Kubuntu Purple mockup?
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: Yeah, it won't come with it... I'll roll my own.
[06:57] <cotroler> !nvidia
[06:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <abattoir> sorry guys
[07:00] <abattoir> !limewire > _Shade_
[07:01] <Viper550> Guess what, I just uploaded a tar.gz of my Kubuntu Edgy mockup!
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !kdm
[07:02] <abattoir> Viper550: care to give a link?
[07:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:02] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[07:02] <abattoir> or is it in kwwii's incoming page?
[07:02] <abattoir> oh ok
[07:02] <Viper550> It's the last one on the bottom
[07:02] <abattoir> Viper550: do you know if you are allowed to put it there?
[07:02] <abattoir> Viper550: have you tried speak w/ kwwii ?
[07:02] <Viper550> Yes, everyone was putting their ideas there!
[07:03] <cotroler> what is Kubuntu Edgy mockup??
[07:03] <abattoir> hmm, ok
[07:04] <cotroler> I have a wireless NIC..can i get that to work in kubuntu?
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> sure cotroler
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> If you can give a little more info...
[07:04] <cotroler> k give me a minute
[07:05] <ubuntu> hello
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, I feel real noobish again... But what is a "valid kdm theme archive"?
[07:07] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: It is: KCORP Lifestyle Wireless PCI Desktop KLG-530 108g+
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> That does not help much yet, cotroler... What's the chipset?
[07:08] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: erm...how do i check?
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> The homepage of the manufacturer should have that info, or maybe the manual that came with it?
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Still there?
[07:09] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: k tnx...can u give me an example so i will know when i find it??
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> cotoler: Look at the card see who makes the chip but it looks like atheros to me (at a guess)
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> could be atheros, prism, orinoco, intel B something...
[07:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[07:10] <cotroler> k ill check :)
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Usually that's stated pretty clear, like Chipset: Atheros
[07:11] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: How do I untar a file again so that it keeps all the permissions and hidden files?
[07:11] <obf213> my comp used to tell me the status of the battery and if it was plugged in or not
[07:11] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: tar -xvzf file ? permissions and hidden files?
[07:12] <obf213> its not there anymore so i installed klaptop daemon but i cnt run it through command, how do i open it
[07:12] <Blissex> obf213: make sure your 'lm_sensors' setup is right by running 'sensors' at the command line first.
[07:13] <obf213> no sensors found...
[07:13] <obf213> it used to tell me my battery
[07:14] <Blissex> obf213: then try running 'ksensors' from the command line
[07:14] <abattoir> obf213: 'acpi' ?
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Now that gives me weird feedback
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> obf213: Install Kpowersave
[07:14] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what are you trying to extract?
[07:14] <obf213> alright ill try those
[07:14] <cotroler> http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=101790  - i cant see to find the chipset, not even on the card or manual :|
[07:14] <obf213> my widget still shows me my power
[07:15] <obf213> ksensors command not found
[07:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: rt.click->Extract in konqueror should do for most situations...
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> login-scan-fusion-0-3-1.tar.gz2
[07:15] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > hi all
[07:15] <obf213> acpi  works
[07:15] <obf213> what wa the little icon that was docked in my toolbar by the clock
[07:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: aah, i remember that one... dont you just open that file w/ the manager?
[07:15] <obf213> how do i get that back
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> The archive? I might try that...
[07:16] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > how can i connect to internet with my wireless card with guarddog ??
[07:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[07:16] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: found it
[07:16] <cotroler> Hardware  Chipset  RF: AR2112
[07:16] <cotroler>  BB/MAC: AR5212
[07:16] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > i configured guarddog but how can i connect with my wireless connection ?
[07:17] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > i need help please
[07:18] <abattoir> obf213: klaptop_check
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: OK, if it would have been an Ath chipset, I could have assisted you... You should use google in a manner like "linux ar2112 driver" to see if there are native drivers for it
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> I know nothing about Guarddog
[07:18] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > ok MilhousePunkRock
[07:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it worked?
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: See if h3sp4wn can help you...
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Yeah, it did, stupid me... That's why it prompted me for an ARCHIVE
[07:19] <abattoir> :)
[07:19] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: tnx
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> AR2112 is atheros
[07:20] <abattoir> hmm, who would need windows and gates in a world w/o walls and fences, iirc
[07:21] <cotroler> h3sp4wn: tnx so i got atheros driver....what must i do now???
[07:22] <chudy_> dpkg: bd przetwarzania /home/chudy/desktop/opera2.deb (--install):
[07:22] <chudy_>  brak dostpu do archiwum: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[07:23] <chudy_> Wystpiy bdy podczas przetwarzania:
[07:23] <chudy_>  /home/chudy/desktop/opera2.deb
[07:23] <chudy_> root@chudy:~# dpkg -i /home/chudy/Desktop/opera2.deb
[07:23] <chudy_> dpkg: bd przetwarzania /home/chudy/Desktop/opera2.deb (--install):
[07:23] <chudy_>  brak dostpu do archiwum: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[07:23] <chudy_> Wystpiy bdy podczas przetwarzania:
[07:23] <chudy_>  /home/chudy/Desktop/opera2.deb
[07:23] <abattoir> !paste > chudy_
[07:24] <abattoir> !pl
[07:24] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:26] <coachJ> what is the command to check to see I am getting 3d out of my card??
[07:26] <abattoir> glxgears ?
[07:26] <trappist> glxinfo | grep rendering
[07:26] <abattoir> :P
[07:26] <Alcapond> Hi, when trying to boot the installation cd, I get the message [4295412.93600]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 7291 - with small alterings, I get this message over and over again. What is the problem? Thx
[07:26] <coachJ> that fot me?
[07:26] <trappist> yes
[07:27] <trappist> Alcapond: bad cd
[07:27] <abattoir> Alcapond: scratched / badly burned cd ?
[07:27] <Alcapond> trappist: abattoir: ok, I try with a new cd...
[07:27] <coachJ> what should it show?
[07:27] <Alcapond> Thx
[07:27] <trappist> coachJ: Yes
[07:28] <coachJ> says no
[07:28] <coachJ>  i dont get it
[07:28] <coachJ> have ati 8500
[07:28] <trappist> coachJ: then you don't have hw acceleration
[07:29] <trappist> coachJ: make sure you've installed linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that the 'driver' line in the device section of your xorg.conf says fglrx instead of ati
[07:29] <coachJ> k
[07:29] <trappist> !ati
[07:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:29] <trappist> and, check that out
[07:30] <coachJ> thks
[07:30] <coachJ> sits are down again??
[07:30] <coachJ> sites
[07:31] <trappist> looks that way
[07:31] <trappist> lame.
[07:32] <coachJ> sucks
[07:32] <trappist> my instructions should get you going though
[07:32] <coachJ> thanks guys ill try later
[07:32] <abattoir> coachJ: or you could get google's cache
[07:32] <abattoir> *cached version
[07:33] <coachJ> just google it
[07:33] <abattoir> google the link, and click on the 'cached version'
[07:33] <coachJ> k
[07:37] <cotroler> !mount
[07:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:37] <cotroler> !auto mount
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about auto mount - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:39] <cotroler> !AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about AutomaticallyMountPartitions - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:39] <gatekeeper> cotroler: to mount on startup you need to modify fstab
[07:41] <cotroler> gatekeeper: tnx a lot ( i did that yesterday but i forgot... today i formatted cause i got 32bit linux ;)
[07:41] <gatekeeper> cotroler: :-)
[07:42] <gatekeeper> cotroler: a usefull link for you: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[07:43] <cotroler> gatekeeper: thats what i wanted :P tnx
[07:44] <gatekeeper> cotroler: yw :-)
[07:47] <PounK_> hello, when I try to add an  printer share by a windows to kubuntu, the option smb is in gray ( I can't chose it)
[07:53] <xst> I try to burn some mp3 in "audio format" with k3b but k3b claims that the mp3 is an "unsupported fileformat". Strange, as I can play mp3's just fine with amarok. How do I make k3b accept mp3-files?
[07:53] <divansantana> apt-get install k3b-mp3
[07:53] <divansantana> tada
[07:54] <divansantana> sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[07:56] <doppelganger> hey again guys.  Abattoir-  you told me to download the linux-headers-<arch> package
[07:56] <doppelganger> what does the arch mean in that?
[07:56] <rr72> prolly i386
[07:56] <rr72> or i586
[07:57] <xst> divansantana: Thanks!
[07:57] <rr72> its in uname somewhere
[07:57] <rr72> its iX86
[07:57] <rr72> x is a number thats ur archecture
[07:57] <rr72> doppelganger is gig?
[08:03] <doppelganger> yeah
[08:04] <cotroler> which were the applications which dont work in kubuntu.....    .run or .rpm ?
[08:04] <doppelganger> man...  vmware is hating on me
[08:04] <doppelganger> worked fine on my machine at home  =\
[08:05] <Gioacchino> hello'
[08:05] <cotroler> which were the applications which dont work in kubuntu.....    .run or .rpm ?
[08:05] <Gioacchino> I have A  problem with thunderbird
[08:06] <divansantana> whats prob?
[08:06] <Gioacchino> when I start it it tell me : Mozilla-Thunderbird is already running, but not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Mozilla-Thunderbird process, or restart your sistem.
[08:06] <divansantana> have u restarted then?
[08:06] <Gioacchino> yesterday it work perfectli
[08:06] <lens> what is the kde equivelent of file roller?
[08:06] <Gioacchino> noe it  not work..
[08:07] <divansantana> if u restart it should work
[08:07] <cotroler> !.run
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about .run - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <cotroler> !run
[08:07] <Gioacchino> I had restart the computer vut it not work
[08:07] <divansantana> else type rm .thunderbird/.lock from your home directory
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about run - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <divansantana> tada
[08:07] <divansantana> rm .thunderbird/.lock
[08:07] <Gioacchino> else type rm .thunderbird/.lock from your home directory  I had delete it but non work..
[08:08] <divansantana> !wine
[08:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:08] <rr72> cotroler~ both work
[08:08] <doppelganger> frickin VMWARE can kiss my mofo'n @#$@#$
[08:08] <rr72> .run is a binary execatavle
[08:08] <divansantana> vmware what is prob???
[08:08] <rr72> *excutable
[08:08] <BluesKaj> hehe doppelganger...no kidding !
[08:08] <doppelganger> won't install properly, for some reason
[08:08] <rr72> and .rpm is fedora package
[08:09] <divansantana> have u considered u upgrading kernel could have broken it, need to rerun vmware-config.pl
[08:09] <rr72> install alien to use rpm
[08:09] <lens> does anyone know the KED equivelent of file roller?
[08:09] <doppelganger> div- i just ran it, thats where i'm stuck at
[08:09] <divansantana> are u using run.pl? u should
[08:09] <divansantana> u should use that before
[08:09] <divansantana> have you install kernel-headers and build-essentials?
[08:09] <divansantana> which vmware?
[08:10] <divansantana> :)
[08:10] <doppelganger> !pastebin
[08:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:10] <rr72> !alien
[08:10] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:11] <cotroler> rr72: i think its better not fiddle with .rpm then
[08:11] <doppelganger> see what you can make of this-   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19030
[08:11] <doppelganger> i have the headers, and i *think* build essentials, lemme check
[08:11] <Gioacchino> help me
[08:12] <Gioacchino> portable thunderbid with wine  ork but linux thunderbird not work..
[08:12] <Gioacchino> !thunderbird
[08:12] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[08:12] <Gioacchino> help me
[08:12] <BluesKaj> Gioacchino, did u try uninstalling T-bird, rebooting and reinstalling it ?
[08:13] <Gioacchino> yes I had try
[08:13] <BluesKaj> with adept
[08:13] <Gioacchino> but wwhen I copy the profile it dont work
[08:13] <Gioacchino> but portable thunderbird with = profile work..
[08:13] <BluesKaj> copy what profile ?
 copy what profile ?  yes the backu of my thunderbird profile
[08:14] <unix_infidel> can anyone help me out i just got this motherboard replaced but now sound isnt working.
[08:15] <unix_infidel> it works on Windows and on the dapper live cd but not in this breezy install.
[08:15] <BluesKaj> don't copy it ...re type all the settings... it's a bit of work, but it 'll prolly work
[08:16] <Gioacchino>  don't copy it ...re type all the settings... it's a bit of work, but it 'll prolly work                but all my email ??
[08:16] <unix_infidel> i've tried using alsaconf but that binary doesnt exist in kubuntu
[08:16] <crimsun> correct, we don't ship alsaconf.
[08:16] <crimsun> what's the issue?
[08:16] <unix_infidel> crimsun: i just got a motherboard replaced in this thinkpad.
[08:16] <crimsun> unix_infidel: which TP?
[08:17] <unix_infidel> sound worked fine before i got it replaced and it works fine in windows and on the dapper live cd.
[08:17] <unix_infidel> crimsun: t42
[08:17] <unix_infidel> all modules are loaded.
[08:17] <Gioacchino> BluesKaj: the received email how to use it ??
[08:17] <cotroler> what was the command to install wine pls?
[08:17] <unix_infidel> crimsun: kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[08:18] <BluesKaj> Gioacchino, is your email saved on the server for a day or a few days in your windows settings ?
[08:18] <unix_infidel> i've tried remodprobing the module....messing with alsamixer.
[08:18] <unix_infidel> everything is as it should be...except something isnt.
[08:18] <BluesKaj> cotroler, sudo apt-get install wine
[08:19] <BluesKaj> or use adept
[08:19] <crimsun> unix_infidel: not using dapper['s kernel] ?
[08:19] <unix_infidel> crimsun: like i said this is a breezy install.
[08:19] <unix_infidel> the sound worked fine before i replaced the motherboard.
[08:19] <cotroler> BluesKaj: tnx
[08:19] <crimsun> unix_infidel: I didn't read the breezy part
[08:20] <unix_infidel> crimsun: np, i'm bumfuzzled.
[08:20] <unix_infidel> any help is appreciated.
[08:20] <drayen_> anyone else experanceing really instabilty with firefox in kubuntu 64?
[08:20] <crimsun> unix_infidel: so which module are you using?
[08:20] <BluesKaj> cotroler, did it install ok ?
 Gioacchino, is your email saved on the server for a day or a few days in your windows settings ?  no the mail is only on my pc with thunderbird and it il more day ( 2 years... )
[08:20] <doppelganger> whoever design krfb needs a kick in the groin.
[08:20] <unix_infidel> snd_intel8x0
[08:20] <unix_infidel> snd                    48644  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[08:20] <unix_infidel> ubuntu automatically recognized the device and added those modules.
[08:21] <cotroler> BluesKaj: Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package
[08:21] <cotroler> BluesKaj: ill try adept
[08:21] <BluesKaj> yup cotroler, that's prolly the other package
[08:22] <cotroler> drayen: yes i did had instability...i just got the 32bit kubuntu and now works perfect
[08:25] <doppelganger> i wish i could kick linus in the jimm
[08:25] <doppelganger> y
[08:25] <doppelganger> ;P
[08:25] <crimsun> unix_infidel: ok, and please pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[08:25] <doppelganger> (i didn't mean that!)
[08:25] <doppelganger> (sarcasm alert)
[08:26] <unix_infidel> http://rafb.net/paste/results/U0BOzG68.html
[08:26] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ^^^^ there ya go.
[08:26] <doppelganger> how long can a linux box be left on sans firewall before getting rooted, usually?
[08:27] <trappist> doppelganger: if your firewall is the only thing stopping you from getting rooted, you're doing something wrong.
[08:27] <BluesKaj> VMWare sucked on my pc ...sound card didn't work some progslike google earth would crash ...any heavy java stuf was unstable
[08:27] <unix_infidel> doppelganger: slashdot posted an arbitrary article saying something like 10 minutes.
[08:27] <doppelganger> 10 minutes? jeez
[08:27] <unix_infidel> doppelganger: that means nothing.
[08:27] <doppelganger> how do you tell if you are
[08:27] <crimsun> unix_infidel: amixer set 'Line Jack Sense' off
[08:27] <unix_infidel> if the person is good enough?
[08:27] <trappist> BluesKaj: yeah google earth wants hardware 3d acceleration, not available in vmware
[08:28] <doppelganger> mine at home as been on without a firewall all night  ;S
[08:28] <unix_infidel> crimsun: you are my savior
[08:29] <unix_infidel> doppelganger: like i said, if they're good enough, you wouldnt even no.
[08:29] <crimsun> unix_infidel: what's your 0401 from lspci -nv ?
[08:29] <unix_infidel> know*
[08:29] <unix_infidel> 0000:00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 01)
[08:29] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ^^^
[08:29] <crimsun> need the subvendor and subdevice id, actually
[08:30] <crimsun> (the line right below that one)
[08:30] <doppelganger_> Does Kubuntu have any kind of firewall built in?
[08:30] <Ignite_> no
[08:30] <doppelganger_> i know i have guarddog downloaded at home, but i haven't configured it
[08:30] <obf213> y do some cds burn like rip %60 fastr than others
[08:31] <Ignite_> i've never used a firewall in (k)ubuntu, i've had the machine on for days at a time with no intrusions, but i don't run any kind of servers so..
[08:31] <BluesKaj> every pc should be equipped with a built in router/dsl/cable modem ...firewalls are a PITA
[08:31] <unix_infidel> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Yk9Cfs98.html
[08:31] <BluesKaj> buy a router !
[08:31] <unix_infidel> Ignite_: just because you dont run servers.
[08:31] <Bazzi> the router will actually have linux and iptables lots of times :-)
[08:31] <unix_infidel> doesnt mean you dont have a reason to run a firewall.
[08:32] <trappist> if you have a router there's not much point putting a firewall behind it
[08:32] <obf213> do we need a firewall
[08:32] <crimsun> unix_infidel: yes, I blacklisted that one for Dapper.
[08:32] <BluesKaj> yup, exactly trappist
[08:32] <Ignite_> unix_infidel, never said there wasn't a reason
[08:32] <crimsun> static unsigned int ad1981_jacks_blacklist[]  = {
[08:32] <crimsun>         0x10140537, /* Thinkpad T41p */
[08:33] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ahhh.
[08:33] <BluesKaj> linux is pretty safe all by it's lonesome anyway
[08:33] <Ignite_> but i think we can safely say that as long as you keep your system upto date there isn't really an issue of being exploited
[08:33] <trappist> if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, like keeping your software up to date and having services listen only on necessary interfaces, a firewall isn't going to make you any more secure.
[08:34] <Ignite_> :)
[08:34] <nik> pressing F9 a panel in konqueror is showed/hidden - how is this widget named?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> those ports below 1024 are the entranceways for the troublesome stuff
[08:35] <unix_infidel> crimsun: IBM did a really shotty job with this repair.  which is why was concerned.
[08:35] <doppelganger_> argh, gotta restart, one minute
[08:35] <trappist> doppelganger_: are you sure?
[08:36] <unix_infidel> crimsun: thanks a lot though, i never would've thought of it.
[08:36] <aliasfred> security is the easiest entrance to put out empty advice :)
[08:36] <unix_infidel> crimsun: these settings should continue to work after reboot?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> why run VMWare anyway?...dual boot is much better
[08:36] <crimsun> unix_infidel: if they're saved on boot (they are normally), yes
[08:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: that depends on what you're doing with it
[08:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: if you're a gamer, sure, dual boot.  if you're a developer and are using it to test code in a different environment, vmware is a lot better than rebooting all the time.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> *nod*
[08:38] <BluesKaj> ok, well I'm not speaking from a developer standpoint :) merely a user
[08:39] <unix_infidel> user of.....what?
[08:39] <charlie5> is kTorrent stable ? it crashes when i enter a search term and also if i de-select too many files in a selective d/l ... ?
[08:40] <trappist> it's best to be careful about using a word like 'better' without qualifiers - if one solution was just plain better than another, probably only one of them would even exist.
[08:41] <trappist> better for you, then
[08:42] <BluesKaj> uhmm yeah
[08:42] <BluesKaj> is doppleganger a developer ?
[08:42] <cotroler> !flash
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <cotroler> !flash player
[08:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about flash player - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:42] <unix_infidel> !flash
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <cotroler> how to install flash player for firefox pls??
[08:43] <trappist> BluesKaj: development was just an example of a situation where vmware might be more desirable than rebooting all the time
[08:43] <cotroler> unix_infidel: how to install flash player in firefox pls?
[08:44] <Gioacchino> I had found the problem
[08:44] <Gioacchino> if I copy the profile folder on my thunderbird
[08:44] <BluesKaj> trappist, I was  just trying to save the guy some anguish which he already seems to be going thru.
[08:44] <Gioacchino> and I delet the profile.desktop
[08:44] <Gioacchino> it work..
[08:44] <BluesKaj> good Gioacchino!
[08:45] <Gioacchino> but because yesterday work and now work only witih folder ??
[08:45] <obf213> why do soome cds rip so much slower than others
[08:45] <MukiEX> Is there a way to get all my apt packages and burn them to DVD?
[08:45] <Gioacchino> I share the configuration with portable thunderbird on my usb pen..
[08:45] <trappist> obf213: audio cds?
[08:45] <obf213> yeah
[08:45] <trappist> obf213: with the same app with the same configuration?
[08:45] <obf213> yep havent changed it
[08:46] <trappist> shouldn't be that way, unless some of em just have a lot more content than others
[08:46] <Gioacchino> but if i copy the folder I cant share the configuration because the configuratio share work only if the profile folder is in the usb pen..
[08:46] <obf213> ive noticed sometimes they rip really fast and i can hear the cd drive then other times it goes eally slow and the drive is really quiet
[08:46] <Kronos__> !dma
[08:46] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:47] <trappist> obf213: possibly some kind of copy protection?
[08:47] <Kronos__> obf213: check out that.
[08:47] <obf213> ok
[08:47] <obf213> maybe thats it
[08:47] <obf213> these are all store bought cds i just noticed in particular
[08:47] <trappist> I think if it was a dma issue it would always be slow
[08:48] <obf213> yeah'
[08:49] <obf213> it also spins slower or something i guess cu its  really quited and the processors dont seem to be working as hard
[08:50] <obf213> if i download a cd or something, can i assign its cddb or w/e so taht amarok can index it correctly
[08:51] <cotroler> how to install flash player for firefox pls??
[08:51] <cotroler> how to install flash player for firefox pls??
[08:51] <obf213> cotroler
[08:51] <cotroler> yes
[08:51] <obf213> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-mozilla
[08:52] <cotroler> tnx m8
[08:52] <obf213> np
[08:52] <cotroler> obf213: Do you happen to know how to install java as well?
[08:53] <obf213> !multimedia
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[08:54] <cotroler> is the wiki kubuntu site down??
[08:55] <trappist> yes
[08:55] <cotroler> :/
[08:55] <obf213> i think so
[08:58] <aztun> hi all
[08:58] <BluesKaj> hi aztun
[08:58] <aztun> how is possible that I have all official ubuntu apt sources and cant find the kernel-sorce-2.6 package???
[08:59] <aztun> kernel-source-2.6
[09:00] <elis> Hello
[09:00] <cotroler> Hi Elis
[09:00] <cotroler> Hi Mandalf
[09:00] <BluesKaj> so you're upgrading, aztun ?
[09:00] <cotroler> :P
[09:00] <Mandalf> I need a Windows emulator to my kubuntu
[09:01] <BluesKaj> wine
[09:01] <Mandalf> I tested it
[09:01] <cmb_00012345> qemu
[09:01] <Mandalf> But i cant find it in the menus
[09:01] <BluesKaj> VNWare if yer brave
[09:01] <BluesKaj> VMWare
[09:01] <cmb_00012345> i dont like vmware
[09:01] <doppelganger_> RAWRRRR
[09:01] <doppelganger_> VMWARE,  you can just...
[09:02] <aztun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19038
[09:02] <aztun> I have that sources.list
[09:02] <doppelganger_> well you know what you can do...
[09:02] <BluesKaj> I haven't been able to get qemu to work , cmb_00012345 ?
[09:02] <aztun> how is possible cant find the kernel-source package???
[09:02] <cmb_00012345> qemu is my fave, i run qemu on windows host with a linux guest, but i got tired of the slowness so i repartitioned and dual boot now
[09:03] <Mandalf> Where can i find wine in the menu???
[09:03] <cmb_00012345> qemu runs good but for some reason it dont handle multiple partitions well, for example i have 2 huge drives partitioned out over 6 partitions and i cant get qemu to detect my cdrom
[09:04] <cmb_00012345> i used bochs to setup a image of kubuntu then ran that image in qemu
[09:04] <cmb_00012345> i dont like the way bochs runs
[09:05] <obf213> ive gone from about 7 seconds a song to 30
[09:06] <BluesKaj> Mandalf, it's in ADEPT
[09:07] <lens> what is the command to just delete a folder? (sorry it's a n00b question)
[09:07] <BluesKaj> aztun, http://www.kernel.org/
[09:07] <doppelganger_> what exactly is "pango:
[09:07] <doppelganger_> er, "pango"
[09:07] <doppelganger_> !pango
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about pango - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:07] <BluesKaj> dunno if kubuntu will run onit tho
[09:08] <lens> anyone? bash command to delete a folder (I tried mv folder Trash) and it didn't work.
[09:08] <h3sp4wn> The fastest way to run linux on a windows host is colinux
[09:09] <sergiusens> rm -R (careful) or rmdir if it's empty
[09:10] <lens> right on, thanks!
[09:10] <Mrono> boy, php and mysql together are a bitch
[09:10] <Mrono> whoops, wrong window
[09:12] <rafa> hello, I have a problem with the sound card in kubuntu 6.06, Anybody could help me?
[09:13] <cotroler> I installed a program with wine in kubuntu...where do i find it now??
[09:13] <_Vman> cotroler i see youre progress nice ;)
[09:14] <cotroler> _Vman lol :P
[09:14] <aztun> I know BluesKaj what wanna install using a .deb
[09:14] <_Vman> hehe 8-)
[09:14] <BluesKaj> aztun,maybe you should look for the linux-image-2.6
[09:14] <aztun> cant find kernel-source package here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:15] <aztun> linux image isnt the source
[09:15] <_Vman> cotroler check here http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/10/more-facts-about-using-wine.html
[09:15] <BluesKaj> why do you need the source ?
[09:15] <aztun> sometimes I need the kernel source to compile some programs
[09:16] <crimsun> you shouldn't ever need the entire source
[09:16] <crimsun> linux-headers-$(uname -r)  should suffice
[09:16] <BluesKaj> you can't find the progs in the pkg managers ?
[09:16] <cmb_00012345> the kernel source is in the package manager, i dont remember what its called but its there
[09:17] <aztun> no kernel-header for 2.6 crimsun
[09:17] <aztun> just for 2.4 kernel
[09:17] <aztun> I dont understad
[09:17] <_Vman> cya all
[09:17] <aztun> I found the package few days ago
[09:17] <aztun> and now it has dissapeared?
[09:17] <Alcapond> is there
[09:18] <Alcapond> sry
[09:18] <aztun> Alcapond: isnt here http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:18] <aztun> at least for dapper
[09:18] <aztun> no kernel-source-2.6.......no kernel-headers-2.6
[09:22] <cmb_00012345> in the package manager it will be linux-source-2.6.XX
[09:22] <BluesKaj> aztun,sudo apt-get install linux-source ...will that help ?
[09:22] <cmb_00012345> or whatever kernel you have
[09:23] <aztun> wow
[09:23] <aztun> thx BluesKaj
[09:23] <aztun> I used mandriva last two years
[09:23] <aztun> and that package used to be name kernel-source
[09:23] <aztun> not linux-source
[09:23] <aztun> thx again
[09:23] <aztun> I foun it
[09:23] <BluesKaj> http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20060714.180928.7860243a.en.html
[09:24] <BluesKaj> that's where I found it
[09:24] <emma_> hello, I wonder how I do to play my mp3-files in the Amarok multimedia player?
[09:25] <aztun> emma_: select xine-motor on amarok config
[09:25] <aztun> that works for me
[09:25] <aztun> also, maybe u have to install xine-codecs
[09:25] <obf213> can you rip from cds w/o the drive spinning
[09:26] <emma_> uhm... Maybe I shall mention that I am a complete new beginner on Linux systems. Detailed instructions?
[09:26] <obf213> because i've been ripping cd's all day earlier it sounded and felt like the drive was spinning fast, tracks ripped fast so iwas just changing cd's and ripping before the encoder was done.
[09:27] <obf213> now the processers show little action there abt about 6 percent, i cant hear the drive at all adn it rips like 1 trcack a minute
[09:27] <obf213> it used to be like 17 seconds a track
[09:27] <obf213> but it was loud and the cd seemed to actually  be spinning
[09:27] <aztun> emma_: open adept to install soft, then look for amarok-xine package and install it
[09:27] <aztun> then go to amarok config and select xine-motor
[09:29] <BluesKaj> xine engine , then build collection
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> hy all
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> I really need some help
[09:30] <BluesKaj> hey DarkWizzard
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> I've recently changed overwritten my username
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> and my hostname
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> and Now ALSA is broken
[09:30] <doppelganger_> i just give up.
[09:30] <doppelganger_> screw linux
[09:30] <doppelganger_> screw everything
[09:30] <doppelganger_> ;P
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> no sound
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> only with root
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> And I can't change the sound system to ALSA in kcontrol
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> it always jumps back
[09:31] <BluesKaj> uhoh . got me on that one DarkWizzard
[09:31] <doppelganger_> Dark- making sure to use admin mode?
[09:31] <doppelganger_> =S
[09:31] <jesspher> hi
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> I had root
[09:31] <doppelganger_> ok
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> when I wanted to change
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> but I'll try
[09:32] <jesspher> can anyone help me with changing the screen resolution of ubuntu 6.06
[09:32] <DarkWizzard> it gets changed
[09:32] <jesspher> please help
[09:32] <DarkWizzard> only it doesn't remember it
[09:32] <jesspher> please help me with changing the screen resolution of ubuntu
[09:32] <emma_> aztun: my "configure engine"-window says that I already use xine. Any other ideas?
[09:32] <DarkWizzard> jesspher: right click on the desktop
[09:32] <jesspher> and then
[09:32] <obf213> jesspher try this
[09:32] <britto> ubuntu-br
[09:33] <obf213> jesspher wht kind of computer do you have
[09:33] <jesspher> pc
[09:33] <jesspher> ubuntu
[09:33] <jesspher> 6.06
[09:33] <obf213> graphics card?
[09:33] <jesspher> geforce 6600
[09:33] <lens> is gmail incompatible with Kontact and Konquerer?
[09:33] <_pedro> hi everyone
[09:33] <jesspher> no its ati radeon 9000 pro, i forgot that i changed it
[09:33] <jesspher> sorry
[09:33] <obf213> download the ati stuff in adept
[09:34] <jesspher> what do you mean in "adept
[09:34] <obf213> then run the commad krandtray
[09:34] <obf213> the package manager
[09:34] <_pedro> I am upgrading from Kubuntu breezy to dapper
[09:34] <obf213> run the command adept
[09:34] <doppelganger_> how might one go about uninstalling anythign that says "vmware" in one fail swoop
[09:34] <doppelganger_> deleting, rather
[09:34] <_pedro> firstly I tried to do it with adept but it crashed and I lost my upgrade
[09:35] <doppelganger_> i have a botched up vmware-server install that i can't unstall completely
[09:35] <_pedro> now I am trying with console
[09:35] <_pedro> and I would like to know if I did it correctly
[09:36] <BluesKaj> jesspher, go to system settings/display/admin mode/hardware/configure (on the far right) to set up your graphics acrd and monitor drivers in the lists provided
[09:36] <_pedro> I changed in my sources.list every breezy for dapper
[09:36] <_pedro> including backports ones
[09:37] <_pedro> and input in a console
[09:37] <BluesKaj> then you can go back to display and reset the scrn resolution on the slider
[09:37] <_pedro> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:37] <BluesKaj> jesspher, then you can go back to display and reset the scrn resolution on the slider
[09:37] <_pedro> is it all right?
[09:41] <jesspher> what do you mean, help me, im a begginer
[09:44] <BluesKaj> jesspher .., new to kubuntu linux ?
[09:51] <Ace2005> Hi all, i'm making a boot screen and i want to know what you think of the first sketch http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallersketchxw4.png
[09:53] <Ace2005> would a black or white background be better?
[09:53] <cotroler> Ace2005: let me see
[09:53] <Ace2005> cotroler: Well the link is just above
[09:53] <Ace2005> http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallersketchxw4.png
[09:53] <cotroler> Ace2005: k seeing right now
[09:53] <cotroler> Ace2005: nice my friend
[09:54] <cotroler> but i think if you invert the colours it would be better :)
[09:56] <simian__>  i have two linux box's ubuntu and kubuntu, what is the best way to link them?
[09:57] <Ace2006> Hi i'm ace2005 but my computer just crashed so what did you think of the image?
[09:57] <pointwood> hi, I have a kubuntu breezy install - to upgrade to dapper, I just have to change sources.list and run "apt-get update;apt-get distupgrade" right?
[09:57] <Ace2006> pointwood: yup
[09:57] <simian__> pointwood: that's right
[09:57] <pointwood> cool
[09:58] <Ace2005> I'm now myself again
[09:58] <simian__> pointwood:  just change any breezy to dapper
[09:58] <pointwood> I've been away and without internet for some time so... :)
[09:58] <Ace2005> so what did you think of the image?
[09:58] <BluesKaj> welcome back to yerself
[09:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[09:58] <simian__>  i have two linux box's ubuntu and kubuntu, what is the best way to link them?
[09:59] <SeanTater> simian__: link, as in network
[09:59] <simian__> SeanTater: sorry, yes i mean network
[09:59] <aliasfred> with a wire :)
[09:59] <SeanTater> simian__: I perfer ssh and sshfs
[09:59] <SeanTater> simian__: samba is available
[09:59] <Ace2005> a crossover network cable will link them
[09:59] <SeanTater> simian__: nfs is fast, but I've never got it to work
[10:00] <simian__> SeanTater: i can use samba with windows but i can't make it work with 2 linux machines
[10:00] <aliasfred> sshfs is easy to setup
[10:00] <SeanTater> simian__: hum -- never used samba on ubuntu
[10:00] <aliasfred> SeanTater: i experienced high memory usage with sshfs, is your experience similar ?
[10:00] <simian__> SeanTater: so you would recomend ssh then?
[10:01] <BluesKaj> one would think samba would work better with 2 ubuntu machines
[10:01] <SeanTater> simian__, aliasfred: I don;t use sshfs much, I prefer scp and sftp, since it's built into konqueror
[10:01] <simian__> BluesKaj: you would have thought
[10:01] <BluesKaj> well I can't get samba to work period
[10:02] <SeanTater> simian__: are you connected to the internet with or without a router?
[10:02] <simian__> SeanTater: with a router and static ip's
[10:02] <SeanTater> simian__: perfect
[10:02] <SeanTater> simian__: on both computers, install openssh-server
[10:03] <BluesKaj> arent the ip's static behind a router anyway ?
[10:03] <SeanTater> simian__: <step one of two>
[10:03] <SeanTater> BluesKaj: ?
[10:03] <SeanTater> BluesKaj: You can have static or dynamic on the internet or local
[10:03] <BluesKaj> nevermind ... I won't  interfere
[10:04] <simian__> SeanTater: thanks that worked well
[10:04] <kbrooks> Has OpenTTD disappeared from the Ubuntu repositories?
[10:04] <SeanTater> simian__: so did you use sftp://
[10:04] <SeanTater> !info openttd
[10:04] <ubotu> Package openttd does not exist in dapper
[10:04] <SeanTater> !info *ttd*
[10:04] <ubotu> Package *ttd* does not exist in dapper
[10:04] <kbrooks> thats funny.
[10:04] <simian__> SeanTater: i think i just thought ssh as command line
[10:05] <kbrooks> has someeone been evil or what SeanTater
[10:05] <SeanTater> simian__: that works, but if you want file sharing, konqueror has sftp built in
[10:05] <aliasfred> naive question, what is openttd ?
[10:05] <kbrooks> it was there before!
[10:05] <kbrooks> i swear it
[10:05] <master_> are there other sites then http://www.kde-look.org/ that has Theme-Manager Theme files?
[10:06] <simian__> SeanTater:  i'm on my ubuntu machine at the moment, i will try sftp on my kubuntu machine and let you know how i got on
[10:06] <SeanTater> simian__: go to either computer, and make an address like this one sftp://192.168.whateveryourIPis/
[10:06] <SeanTater> simian__: okay
[10:06] <kbrooks> or maybe I d/led a .deb file. I dont remember
[10:06] <aliasfred> naive question, what is openttd ?
[10:07] <kbrooks> aliasfred: openttd.org
[10:07] <simian__> SeanTater: error talking to ssh
[10:08] <SeanTater> simian__: okay, try setting username@ before the double slashes
[10:08] <SeanTater> hold on
[10:09] <SeanTater> that would be /after/ the double slashes
[10:09] <simian__> SeanTater: can you give me an example
[10:09] <sorush20> hi guys I keep getting this message kstartconfig can not be found check your installation?
[10:09] <aliasfred> ok for those who wondered openttd is a game :)
[10:10] <SeanTater> simian__: sftp://sean@192.168.1.15/
[10:10] <BluesKaj> yeah aliasfred, that surprised me
[10:10] <aliasfred> simian__: try ping, then telnet 22, then ssh, then scp
[10:10] <simian__> SeanTater: i see
[10:10] <aliasfred> as a trouble shooting process i meant
[10:11] <SeanTater> simian__: working?
[10:11] <SeanTater> simian__: it should ask you for a password
[10:11] <kbrooks> Eh?  sources.list.d doesnt work
[10:11] <kbrooks> i drop a file into the directory
[10:11] <kbrooks> run apt-get update
[10:11] <sergiusens> sorush20: i had that problem when i switched form gnome, was a permission problem on my home kde dir
[10:11] <kbrooks> and i dontsee any lines in the output
[10:12] <sorush20> what should I do?
[10:12] <sorush20> what should the permissions of my home direcotyr .kde be ?
[10:12] <sergiusens> sorush20: can you login in a terminal?
[10:12] <sorush20> yes..
[10:13] <BluesKaj> oh I have a question about email ..How do I make Thunderbird the default ...sometimes kmail launches ?
[10:13] <sergiusens> sorush20: first thing when and how did it begin?
[10:13] <simian__> SeanTater: i neede to install openssh-server
[10:13] <lens> do most of you guys use Konqueror? or firefox?
[10:14] <BluesKaj> the default email settings in t-bird don't work , same goes for swiftfox
[10:14] <sergiusens> i use konqueror when in kde and epiphany in gnome and when i come across windows I try to use firefox
[10:14] <BluesKaj> <---Firefox or swiftfox
[10:14] <simian__> SeanTater: sftp works well
[10:15] <simian__> SeanTater: what does the s stand for
[10:15] <SeanTater> secure
[10:15] <lens> I went to the gmail preferences w/ konqueror and it said my browser wasn't supported, I really Konqueror is there any way around that?
[10:15] <SeanTater> as in secure shell
[10:15] <sorush20> I accidently moved the /home/sorush4 directory
[10:15] <SeanTater> Secure SHell is used for Secure File Transport Protocol
[10:15] <Ash-Fox> lens, try playing with the browser identification
[10:16] <lens> Ash-Fox - oh ok, where would I find that?
[10:16] <sorush20> the I moved it around again.. and changed the ownership again..
[10:16] <sergiusens> lens: tools menu
[10:16] <sorush20> I used sudo chown sorush4 -Rf /home/sorush4
[10:16] <Ash-Fox> lens, in konqueror's prefrences.
[10:16] <simian__> SeanTater: well thanks again
[10:17] <lens> alright thanks, I'll try and trick gmail into thinking this is firefox ;)
[10:17] <lens> or gosh even the newest IE... that's a really tight feature.
[10:18] <lens> I'm SO GLAD I switched to KDE, it rocks hard.
[10:18] <sergiusens> sorush20: and what are the perms for your ~/.kde dir
[10:20] <raytray25> How do I change what Middle click does in Konqueror?
[10:20] <simian__> lens: yes it does. But I have a problem i use kde you about a month the gnome then kde and so on.
[10:22] <lens> simian... I don't think I'll have that problem. ;-), it feels so light and easy to navigate, I love it.
[10:23] <anne_> hi everyone. Automatix' script looks like it's crashed but at the same time my  pc is slow (P-III 733 Mhz) so i'm wondering if there was a way for me to know if it's either ?
[10:24] <tchize> Hello, i just upgraded (well tried to) from breezy to dapper
[10:24] <tchize> however, the process is stuck in the middle around kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2)
[10:25] <BluesKaj> anne_, did you choose a lot of downloads to install
[10:25] <BluesKaj> ?
[10:25] <tchize> all packages that depends on it complains it's not installed
[10:25] <anne_> BluesKaj: yes
[10:25] <BluesKaj> ok, it'll prolly take a while then
[10:25] <BluesKaj> brb
[10:26] <tchize> i have aptitude now complaining about too many errors, so if someone has any suggestion, it's welcomed
[10:27] <Phazeman> s there any photography fan here that managed to work with some firewire film scanners ? i'm affraid to transfer my main desktop machine because i'm not sure my Minolta film scanner would work...
[10:27] <anne_> ok but the script window doesn't scroll anymore...oh well.
[10:28] <BluesKaj> anne_,click enter
[10:28] <Blissex> Phazeman: that usually works -- FireWire is just SCSI
[10:28] <anne_> BluesKaj: done, no avail
[10:29] <sepultura> SIEMA
[10:29] <BluesKaj> is the konsol still open?
[10:29] <Phazeman> Blissex: w00t ! i wish it would work ! i think i'm going to try installing tomorrow...
[10:29] <sepultura> jest ktos z polski
[10:29] <sepultura> ?????
 Whats ur /etc/sources.list ?
[10:29] <Blissex> Phazeman: just try it with Knoppix or from the LiveCD...
[10:31] <Phazeman> Blissex: yeah... livecd is the target now :) running with it right now... my main linux machine is dead for about 2 weeks now and i'm suffering without it :( no way to fix.. the MoBo is dead after power shutdown
[10:32] <jesspher> can anybody here ;help me with running wine
[10:32] <Phazeman> jesspher: why not asking at #wine first ?
[10:33] <raytray25> How do I change what Middle click does in Konqueror?
[10:33] <Phazeman> ok.. a weird question now... does anybody knows if there is an option to put a binary of unrar onto running live cd and run it ?
[10:33] <BluesKaj> jesspher, wine should be in the Adept pkg list
[10:34] <Phazeman> raytray25: i dont think it's possible
[10:34] <doppelganger_> haaay guys
[10:34] <arso> umm guys
[10:34] <arso> how do install a  .SH
[10:34] <doppelganger_> what do i need to download to be able to compile a kernel..   "build-essential" ?
[10:34] <arso> !sh
[10:34] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:35] <doppelganger_> arso  "./whatever.sh"
[10:35] <doppelganger_> !build-essential
[10:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:35] <arso> didnt work
[10:36] <uniq> arso: 'sh file.sh'
[10:36] <anne_> johan_: nevermind, i got some help on #automatix.
[10:36] <arso> in konsole?
[10:36] <uniq> arso: yes
[10:37] <arso>  sh install.sh
[10:37] <arso> sh: install.sh: No such file or directory
[10:37] <uniq> arso: you can also make it executable. and doubleclick on it.
[10:37] <BluesKaj> right on anne_
[10:37] <johan_> Oki....wish u god luck =)
[10:37] <uniq> arso: then there is no install.sh in that directory.
[10:37] <doppelganger_> whoops, sorry
[10:38] <arso> umm wat extracts a .tar.gz please
[10:38] <doppelganger_> anyone a pro at vmware
[10:38] <arso> i always forget
[10:38] <doppelganger_> arso, right clicking it
[10:38] <doppelganger_> ;)
[10:38] <doppelganger_> (in konqueror)
[10:39] <uniq> !tar
[10:39] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[10:39] <doppelganger_> uniq- can i ask a few quick questions
[10:39] <doppelganger_> should be easy
[10:39] <uniq> arso: if you want to unpack a tar.gz in konsole: 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz'
[10:40] <arso> thnx
[10:40] <uniq> doppelganger_: sure..
[10:40] <doppelganger_> ok..  i'm trying to install vmware, right..
[10:40] <doppelganger_> well...  it's saying i have no C header files that match my kernel
[10:40] <uniq> right.
[10:40] <uniq> ok.
[10:41] <doppelganger_> so...  i go to adept, and i see headers for 2.4.27-2
[10:41] <doppelganger_> right...  so...  i don't have that
[10:41] <arso> ok i extracted
[10:41] <uniq> install the package linux-kernel-headers
[10:41] <arso> when i click on .sh
[10:41] <arso> nothing executes
[10:41] <arso> it IS executable
[10:41] <doppelganger_> uniq- that is the only one i do have installed
[10:41] <doppelganger_> so i thought that was ok
[10:41] <doppelganger_> but apparently not
[10:42] <uniq> ok. where are you looking for the headers?
[10:42] <uniq> or where do you tell vmware they are?
[10:42] <doppelganger_> adept
[10:42] <doppelganger_> it's looking in "/usr/src/linux/include"
[10:42] <doppelganger_> maybe thats dead wrong
[10:42] <uniq> doppelganger_: try to tell it /usr/include
[10:43] <doppelganger_> lemme get that far in the installation and try, thanks man
[10:46] <sdlnxgk> ??? anyone know if kubuntu can use  digital speakers???
[10:46] <cotroler> I installed java in a wrong directory......how do i remove it pls??
[10:47] <doppelganger_> iniq-  can i paste you something in PM?
[10:47] <doppelganger_> *uniq
[10:47] <doppelganger_> hell, i'll pastebin it
[10:48] <doppelganger_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19048
[10:49] <doppelganger_> <---PO'd
[10:49] <uniq> looking.
[10:49] <doppelganger_> lol,  just at vmware
[10:50] <doppelganger_> i've been fighting this for more than a few hours today
[10:50] <uniq> doppelganger_: ah.. it tells you what you need. kernel-source.
[10:51] <simian__> i can't remember howto install with dpkg
[10:51] <simian__> is it dpkg -i
[10:51] <uniq> doppelganger_: install 'linux-source' and go to /usr/src/ unpack it, and 'ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.15 linux' then try again.
[10:51] <uniq> simian__: correct.
[10:52] <BluesKaj> yeah , I had an Linux admin guy help me install VMWare and it still was only capable of rudimentary funstions like surfing and email
[10:52] <simian__> uniq: thanks
[10:52] <doppelganger_> woo, lemme try that uniq
[10:55] <lmodl> hello
[10:56] <nabil> this
[10:56] <nabil> am new here
[10:57] <nabil> hello helo h h...
[10:57] <uniq> hi nabil.
[10:57] <nabil> exit
[10:57] <nabil> hi there
[10:57] <nabil> am new here
[10:57] <nabil> and this is first kubuntu install
[10:57] <nabil> onmy laptop
[10:58] <uniq> great :)
[10:58] <uniq> how do you like it so far?
[10:58] <lmodl> me too is it vri
[10:58] <nabil> great..but am having ati adaptor
[10:59] <nabil> i cannot make use of my radeon x1300 adaptor
[10:59] <nabil> can anyone help
[10:59] <grizzly> anybody on kernel 2.6.15-26-686-nosmp ? tell me the device for cdrom plz. as in /dev/hdc for default kernel
[10:59] <uniq> !ati
[10:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <greeko> anyone know how to get around the kernel hang while installing linux?
[10:59] <uniq> nabil: try to go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <nabil> ok..will take ur advise
[10:59] <nabil> thnx dear
[10:59] <thygrrr_> in the whois info for .com domains, the "Record created/last updated/expires" dates... are they UTC?
[11:00] <thygrrr_> ooops.
[11:00] <thygrrr_> Wrong channel
[11:00] <greeko> does anyone know?
[11:01] <uniq> greeko: try to pass the 'noapic' option to the kernel.. or use another kernel. if available. really depends on the kernel hang..
[11:02] <greeko> its during the initial install when the CD boots
[11:03] <greeko> i dont know how I would use another kernel
[11:03] <uniq> thygrrr_: usually some USA-time..
[11:04] <uniq> thygrrr_: for ubuntu.com it says EDT. which is -4h.
[11:05] <doppelganger_> p**s on it...  it's not working still
[11:05] <doppelganger_> or else i'm giving it the wrong dir to look in
[11:06] <uniq> did you find /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 ?
[11:06] <uniq> or what it's called..
[11:06] <doppelganger_> yeah, i un tarred that
[11:06] <doppelganger_> then ran that ln command you gave me
[11:06] <doppelganger_> which just brought me to the next line
[11:06] <doppelganger_> like it was done
[11:06] <Ace2005> Hi all again
[11:06] <Ace2005> What do you think of this as a boot screen: http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rect4175sj5.png
[11:07] <Ace2005> its not finished yet but it will be soon
[11:07] <uniq> doppelganger_: ok. then it should work if you try again.
[11:07] <doppelganger_> with their default, or the one you gave me  "/usr/include
[11:07] <doppelganger_> because neither have worked yet
[11:08] <uniq> with /usr/src/linux/include
[11:08] <greeko> what is apic? and what is apci?
[11:08] <uniq> greeko:        Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (Intel, PIC)
[11:08] <doppelganger_> "not an existing directory"
[11:08] <uniq> doppelganger_: hum.. strange.
[11:09] <uniq> doppelganger_: do you have the 386 kernel?
[11:10] <uniq> doppelganger_: you can find out with 'uname -a' in konsole.
[11:10] <doppelganger_> 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jul 17 19:52:53
[11:10] <uniq> ok.
[11:10] <jesspher> does anybody know why i keep receiving this when installing apps using wine :
[11:10] <jesspher> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[11:10] <jesspher> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[11:10] <jesspher> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\dfbhdlc.exe": Module not found
[11:10] <jesspher> please help
[11:10] <uniq> doppelganger_: ok, then get 'linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686'
[11:11] <greeko> ok so i have another question
[11:11] <uniq> doppelganger_: you can safely delete /usr/src/linux and the directory you got when you unpacked the kernel-source.
[11:11] <greeko> is apic or acpi needed to install on a USB hard drive?
[11:12] <uniq> greeko: no. don't think so.
[11:12] <uniq> I really have to go now...
[11:12] <greeko> alright because it doesnt hang when i use the noapic but then i get a problem installing on a USB harddrive
[11:12] <rzei> hi everyone! how do i overcome apt-get install <sun java5 packages> saying "sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented" thus refusing to install java5 packages?
[11:12] <uniq> doppelganger_: good luck with your vmware install.. if you get more problems i suggest searching ubuntuforums.org.
[11:12] <rzei> apt-get -f install or dpkg --force-all don't help
[11:12] <doppelganger_> uniq-  686 or 386?
[11:13] <doppelganger_> uniq- i've already bugged the #vmware guys
[11:13] <doppelganger_> they sent me here to fix my ubuntu probs
[11:13] <doppelganger_> ;P
[11:13] <uniq> doppelganger_: what 'uname -a' says. the same..
[11:13] <doppelganger_> gotha
[11:13] <doppelganger_> gotcha*
[11:13] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, are you installing vmware in kubuntu or kubuntu in vmware?
[11:14] <doppelganger_> vmware in kubuntu
[11:14] <Ignite_> easily done :)
[11:14] <Ignite_> one second
[11:14] <doppelganger_> i've installed it on my home machine without *any* problems
[11:14] <doppelganger_> for some reason this machine at work is not liking me
[11:14] <uniq> have to go, good night.
[11:14] <Ignite_> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare
[11:14] <cotroler> where is the directory of fireworks located by defualt?????
[11:15] <doppelganger_> thank you uniq, have a good night man
[11:15] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare <-= use the top instructions, works like a charm
[11:15] <Ignite_> <3
[11:15] <doppelganger_> lol
[11:15] <cotroler> where is the directory of fireworks located by defualt?????
[11:15] <doppelganger_> (AND STFU!!!!!!)  am i right?  lol
[11:15] <Ignite_> ?
[11:16] <doppelganger_> ;)
[11:16] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, is that page loading for you? its not loading for me.. no idea why
[11:16] <doppelganger_> me either
[11:16] <doppelganger_> i wasn't gonna ask
[11:16] <doppelganger_> lol
[11:16] <Alcapond> hi, how can I check if kubuntu has correctly identified PCMCIA wlan-card? Thx
[11:16] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, one sec
[11:17] <doppelganger_> son of a.....   those headers don't help either
[11:17] <cotroler> where is the directory of fireFOX located by defualt?????
[11:17] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, it really is easy to install, i did it just today, took all of 5 minutes
[11:17] <Ignite_> that wiki was what got me there
[11:17] <Ignite_> now its down...
[11:17] <Ignite_> :'(
[11:18] <doppelganger_> ignite-  well i installed and hosed the vmware server version first, going on the advice of someone else
[11:18] <doppelganger_> then i found out the player was all i needed, and it wouldn't install because of how hosed the other was
[11:18] <Ignite_> i'm using the latest release of vmware workstation
[11:18] <doppelganger_> then i cleared everything
[11:18] <doppelganger_> and now here i am
[11:18] <doppelganger_> ;P
[11:18] <Ignite_> hehe
[11:19] <doppelganger_> damned wiki
[11:19] <doppelganger_> come on
[11:21] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, i'm looking around seeing if i can find it mirrored anyway, i will let you know if i find i
[11:21] <Ignite_> it
[11:21] <Ignite_> *
[11:22] <doppelganger_> ignite-  thank you man
[11:23] <doppelganger_> i'm scraping at the problem right now...   every which way i try it, it's screwed or wanting something more
[11:24] <doppelganger_> why do i have the mike tyson's punchout theme in my head
[11:25] <Ignite_> doppelganger_, if i remember correctly its as simple as "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` gcc-3.4" and then just going through the install procedure as normal
[11:25] <Ignite_> lol
[11:26] <Ignite_> note, those are backticks, not single quotes :)
[11:28] <doppelganger_> lol.....
[11:29] <doppelganger_> "build-essential is already the newest version"   "linux-headers(etc) is at it's latest version"    "gcc-3.4 is already the newest version"
[11:30] <shiv> Hi, My system is really working great now. Is there a way to make image of it to install to other system of same specs or even make a dvd for later restore?
[11:31] <doppelganger_> shiv- there is a backup program called "keep" installed by default, under "System"
[11:31] <shiv> I can't find it
[11:31] <supernix>  anyone here know much about WIFI ?
[11:31] <shiv> I tried Alt F2
[11:32] <doppelganger_> run command keep
[11:32] <doppelganger_> search in adept for "keep" i guess then
[11:37] <doppelganger_> WAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
[11:37] <doppelganger_> you bastard, i got you!@#
[11:41] <thygrrr> ummm....
[11:43] <thygrrr> ok, I'm a newb when it comes to linking. changing /usr/bin/java by ln /usr/bin/java /foo/myjava doesn't work!
[11:43] <thygrrr> It always links to /etc/alternatives/java
[11:45] <kenshin6x> !xgl
[11:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:46] <trappist> thygrrr: I think you have the order backwards, but in any case the link you should change is /etc/alternatives/java, and it should be changed by using update-alternatives
[11:49] <trappist> thygrrr: and they're symbolic links, so you would want ln -s (except you're going to use update-alternatives, so it doesn't matter)
[11:51] <thygrrr> Ah, I suppose something restored the old links then behind my back.
[11:51] <thygrrr> That's actually quite Redmondish :P
[11:52] <Agios> java is supposed to be linked to alternatives
[11:52] <Agios> if you want something different change alternatives
[11:52] <thygrrr> Hmm
[11:53] <thygrrr> It says update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/java'.
[11:53] <thygrrr> after update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/java'.
[11:53] <thygrrr> umm, i mean after sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/java
[11:55] <Agios> make sure /usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/java exists
[11:55] <thygrrr> it does.
[11:55] <Agios> java likes to use _ instead of .
[11:56] <Agios> try sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/
[11:56] <thygrrr> nope, cannot find alternative
[11:57] <Agios> it is that
[11:58] <thygrrr> ok
[11:58] <thygrrr> apparently, I need to add it to a list first.
[11:58] <thygrrr> though there doesn't seem to be an --add command, I'll try --install
[11:58] <Agios> there is more to this than meets the eye, see /var/lib/dpkg/alternative
[11:59] <Agios> install might work, there is a list
[11:59] <jesspher> is there a program in linux that can repair cluster. please help
[12:00] <Agios> fsck - the equivalent of chkdsk
[12:00] <thygrrr> great I broke it.
[12:00] <jesspher> Agios: how do i run fsck
[12:01] <Agios> thelostbyte_:  nah, it was already brokne
[12:01] <jesspher> how can i run fsck
[12:01] <jesspher> please help
[12:01] <Agios> jesspher: fsck /dev/hda1 or whatever
[12:01] <Agios> man fsck
[12:01] <Kr4t05> Open a Konsole and run the command.
[12:02] <Kr4t05> *cough*
[12:02] <thygrrr> oh oh
[12:02] <thygrrr> Okay, now I have a "java" link in /usr/bin; and it seems broken. it's displayed as red, the others are all green. ls java says "too many levels of symbolic links"
[12:03] <jesspher> is it safe to run fsck on a mounted file system
[12:03] <crimsun> no
[12:03] <thelostbyte_> Agios, what was ?
[12:03] <Agios> red means the sorce doesn't exist
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> If you need to run fsck it should be done in single usermode and mounted read only
[12:03] <crimsun> or not mounted at all, which is even better
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> But if its / that can be a pain
[12:04] <crimsun> quite true
[12:04] <jesspher> how do i do that
[12:04] <Agios> thelostbyte_: what?
[12:04] <jesspher> how do run fsck in single usermode and mounted read only
[12:05] <Agios> if it's your root you boot from a CD
[12:05] <Agios> otherwise boot recovery mode
[12:05] <jesspher> how do i boot recorymode
[12:06] <Agios> reboot normally and at the grub prompt hit esc, select the recovery mode, hit enter
[12:06] <jesspher> and is that all or do i need to type anything else
[12:06] <Agios> when you get to the command pront you run fsck
[12:07] <jesspher> ok
[12:07] <jesspher> thanks
[12:07] <Agios> have fun
[12:07] <Agios> fsck is like russian roulette with one chamber empty
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> jesspher: check / is mounted read only first (by running mount)