[12:01] <dli> goonies, make menuconfig, you can copy over .config
[12:01] <goonies> yeah thats the command i used
[12:01] <dli> goonies, anyway, you need CONFIG_IDE=y , read starting there in my post
[12:01] <AndyCooll> bl3ssing; Pays your money (or rather with LInux you don't really) takes your pick. All distros have their strengths and weaknesses, and it truly is a personal choice
[12:02] <davegoodson> JW: Ive just installed alsa-oss, should it take affect straight away?
[12:02] <JW> m3talc0re - "sudo nautilus" and go to fonts:/// and drop your fonts in there
[12:02] <gatekeeper> bl3ssing: yes the one you are most comfortable using :-)
[12:02] <GlassCasket> Is there any way I can setup my wireless in the Ubuntu live CD?
[12:02] <three> Has anyone here had any experience with usb controlers in ubuntu
[12:02] <dli> GlassCasket, if the hardware is supported, yes
[12:02] <m3talc0re> what kind of fonts does ubuntu accept?
[12:02] <JW> davegoodson - restart firefox
[12:02] <tristanmike> m3talc0re: any ttf font
[12:02] <GlassCasket> dli: Does Ubuntu have a supported hardware list?
[12:02] <AndyCooll> bl3ssing: the beauty of Linux is that because distros are generally free you can try them all!!
[12:02] <m3talc0re> ok
[12:03] <webben> n3talc0re: pc versions of fonts (not mac fonts AFAIK)
[12:03] <tristanmike> GlassCasket: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedHardware
[12:03] <GlassCasket> dli: Nevermind, I found it.
[12:03] <GlassCasket> :)
[12:03] <keldon> anybody here using Wengo 2.0 ?
[12:03] <webben> n3talc0re: and there are different sorts of fonts for the console, but that's probably not what you're asking about
[12:03] <runes> bl3ssing, based on comparign 5 distros Ubuntu was the only one that picked up all of the hardware on a nforce based motherboard..6.06lts
[12:03] <sewoyl> hello, my laptop's fans never start!!
[12:03] <AndyCooll> bl3ssing: Now, if you tell us what you're looking for in a distro we can perhaps give you some guidance on which ones might be best to try
[12:04] <runes> bl3ssing, but I had to flash the bios for it to pick up everything..nto a big deal
[12:04] <Renan_s2> sewoyl, I believe that fans in a laptop are "automatic", i.e. they start when needed
[12:04] <m3talc0re> i don't see this fonts:///
[12:04] <davegoodson> JW: still no sound, should i do sudo gedit /usr/bin/firefox?
[12:04] <bl3ssing> GlassCasket, what's a live CD?
[12:04] <Renan_s2> bl3ssing, a live-CD is a Linux Cd which runs without install
[12:04] <JW> m3talc0re - do "l" then type it.... or type it it will show up
[12:05] <sewoyl> Renan_s2: thats the point, they do not start (some acpi problem I guess), happily I do have an alinum cooler pad with two fans under the laptop ...
[12:05] <JW> davegoodson - yep
[12:05] <sewoyl> can anybody help?
[12:05] <bl3ssing> wow ... really?
[12:05] <AndyCooll> bl3ssing: It's a distro that runs from your CD-ROM, and doesn't touch your hard-drive
[12:05] <runes> bl3ssing, live is an active functioning distribution so it works as if it is installed on your machine only that it is actually running off of the cd or dvd you burned without modifying your hard drives
[12:05] <bl3ssing> I've never heard about this ... and I'm an IT Engineer? :D
[12:05] <JW> davegoodson - look for this line MOZ_PROGRAM="aoss ${MOZ_DIST_BIN}/firefox-bin"
[12:06] <JW> davegoodson - add aoss
[12:06] <bl3ssing> hold on guys, I UNDERSTOOD! A live cd's a live CD. I mean ... a CD which lives as long as I'm putting it into my cd-rom device. Otherwise, DEAD!
[12:06] <bl3ssing> :D
[12:06] <bl3ssing> thanks guys
[12:06] <AndyCooll> blssing: great for "looking" at Linux without actually taking the plunge so to speak
[12:06] <m3talc0re> sudo nautilus | fonts:/// ?
[12:06] <bl3ssing> just took a test from this link: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php, thanks to Renan_s2 ! God bless you!
[12:07] <dli> bl3ssing, it's like " live show", not like " living thing"
[12:07] <Renan_s2> :)
[12:07] <Renan_s2> you're welcome, bl3ssing
[12:07] <AndyCooll> bl3ssing: That's right, take the CD out of your drive, reboot, and everythings is back to the way it was before
[12:07] <bl3ssing> hehehe dli
[12:07] <bl3ssing> :)
[12:07] <keldon> bl3ssing: MCSE then prolly? :P
[12:07] <davegoodson> JW: How do you mean add aoss?
[12:07] <JW> m3talc0re - type "l" or type , your url bar will show up, type it there
[12:07] <bl3ssing> LOL keldon
[12:07] <bl3ssing> are you kidding?:)
[12:08] <JW> davegoodson - look for MOZ_PROGRAM=" ${MOZ_DIST_BIN}/firefox-bin" and make it MOZ_PROGRAM="aoss ${MOZ_DIST_BIN}/firefox-bin"
[12:08] <m3talc0re> isn't doing anything jw
[12:08] <m3talc0re> i tried |fonts:///
[12:08] <m3talc0re> fonts:///
[12:08] <m3talc0re> fonts://
[12:08] <JW> m3talc0re -in nautilus to make the url bar appear you type "l"
[12:09] <m3talc0re> yeah
[12:09] <davegoodson> JW: Then save?
[12:09] <JW> m3talc0re - then in this url bar you type fonts:///
[12:09] <bl3ssing> Kubuntu's the best! :)
[12:09] <JW> davegoodson - yep and restart firefox
[12:09] <m3talc0re> did that too
[12:09] <m3talc0re> you're talking about the little box that pops up on the bottom right, correct?
[12:10] <bl3ssing> what's the difference between DESKTOP CD and ALLTERNATE INSTALL CD?
[12:10] <ozubu> hello all
[12:10] <davegoodson> JW: Thanks :)
[12:10] <OoberMick> davegoodson: you can just do FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[12:10] <ozubu> I having troubles to compile Kqemu
[12:10] <bl3ssing> got it ... forget the QUESTION!
[12:10] <bl3ssing> :)
[12:10] <AndyCooll> blssing: the installation method
[12:10] <ozubu> can any1 help ?
[12:10] <Renan_s2> ozubu, what are the troubles?
[12:10] <JW> m3talc0re - hmmm i'm on edgy, look for the way to make the url bar show in dapper....
[12:11] <JW> davegoodson - np
[12:11] <ozubu> hmm, I m following the help file and I can't complete the installation
[12:11] <ozubu> let me paste
[12:11] <m3talc0re> the only thing i see is a little box that pops up when i type
[12:11] <JW> m3talc0re -in edgy there is an icon next to the PATH in nautilus
[12:11] <dooglus> m3talc0re: try control-l
[12:12] <Dixon85> Has anybody ever tried to install l7-filtering? (succesfully :))
[12:12] <JW> m3talc0re - yeah ctrl-l thats it :)
[12:12] <davegoodson> JW: ive also got a problem with skype, It just has /dev/dsp in the audio selection
[12:12] <ozubu> Renan_s2, check this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18961
[12:12] <Sarra> Quick question: What plugin is needed to view videos via FireFox, on videos.google.com?
[12:12] <JW> davegoodson - this should work by default...
[12:13] <davegoodson> mmmm
[12:13] <m3talc0re> there we go
[12:13] <davegoodson> well i have a usb head set
[12:13] <ozubu> Renan_s2, does it help ?
[12:13] <davegoodson> i want to use that
[12:13] <Renan_s2> ozubu, looks like there's nothing wrong, type './install.sh'
[12:13] <m3talc0re> for future reference JW, use uppercase letters
[12:13] <mcphail> davegoodson: google for skype_dsp_hijacker
[12:13] <m3talc0re> l looks like |
[12:13] <dooglus> OoberMick, JW: is this the "how can I get flash in firefox to not lock out other apps" question?
[12:13] <hussam> how do I know what pakage installed file x ?
[12:14] <JW> davegoodson - ohh.. so you need to give it the /dev/..... device of your headset... don't know what that is.... does sond work out of the boxs on ur usb ?
[12:14] <m3talc0re> i kept hitting the |
[12:14] <dooglus> hussam: dpkg -S
[12:14] <azcazandco> mcphail: are you about at all?
[12:14] <TheCross> helllo, can somebody please help me with postfix? thanks
[12:14] <hussam> ok, dooglus thanks
[12:14] <m3talc0re> thanks, now i can install some fonts
[12:14] <mcphail> azcazandco: give me 10 minutes
[12:14] <ozubu> Renan_s2, I did - no msg of error
[12:14] <ozubu> now what ?
[12:14] <Renan_s2> ozubu, then type 'modprobe kqemu'
[12:15] <ozubu> ok
[12:15] <ozubu> I did
[12:15] <JW> dooglus - this is out to get sound with flash, and should also not lock ou other apps as alsa should multitask
[12:15] <hussam> dooglus: dpkg -S /path/filename didn't work
[12:15] <Renan_s2> ozubu, I don't know much about kqemu, follow the documentation
[12:15] <TheCross> can anybody help me with a postfix problem?
[12:15] <JW> m3talc0re - uppercase is not allowed in chat :)
[12:15] <ozubu> Renan_s2, I am trying 10x
[12:15] <azcazandco> mcphail: np
[12:15] <davegoodson> JW: mmm well it works with windows and it is there in sound settings for ubuntu
[12:16] <JW> m3talc0re - considered as shouting :)
[12:16] <Dixon85> Sarra: mozilla-mplayer package
[12:16] <JW> davegoodson - look what device it is, maybe /dev/dsp1 or 2
[12:17] <ozubu> Renan_s2, I think it is working - qemu did not say anything about 'not finding /dev/kqemu'
[12:17] <Sarra> Dixon85: is it available for AMD64, because I'm not seeing it
[12:17] <Renan_s2> OK ozubu
[12:17] <davegoodson> JW: ive tried every one and none of them work
[12:17] <Dixon85> Sarra: Yep, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mplayer&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all ;)
[12:18] <fishy> How do I get Ubuntu working with a second monitor?
[12:18] <affan> hi all, I am trying to burn ISO image using XFBurn but it keeps saying "Device or resource busy... retrying in 1 sec"... i have tried like five difference CD-RW's... any clues?
[12:18] <gilianima> what does LTS mean in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[12:18] <JW> davegoodson - 2 sec i take a look
[12:18] <rlj> is it easy in ubuntu to use alternate kernels (such as a 2.6.17 kernel) or do i have to download sources and compile manually?
[12:18] <Renan_s2[out] > gilianima, long term support
[12:18] <Renan_s2[out] > it will be supported for 5 (?) years after the release, normally it is 18 months (1.5 years)
[12:18] <pjfc> how do I add new hardware in ubuntu?
[12:19] <rlj> if present, i'd like a kernel with a newer bcm43xx driver to see if the tx power issues on bcm4318 are gone
[12:19] <fishy> Is there a way to get Ubuntu working on a second monitor? I'm running it on my laptop.
[12:19] <pjfc> parallel port scanner (old UMAX 610P)?
[12:19] <Sarra> Thanks, Dixon85
[12:19] <rsk> pjfc, halt the computer, put the hardware in, start again.
[12:19] <JW> davegoodson - if you set usb as default sound device in the sound properties do you get sound there ?
[12:19] <Dixon85> Sarra: You're welcome ;)
[12:19] <Kanon321> is there anyway to install breezy with the live cd?
[12:19] <brotherJohn1234> fishy: not easy - i had to manually configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:20] <Kanon321> none of my install discs work
[12:20] <stefg> Kanon321: no
[12:20] <Renan_s2[out] > Kanon321, no, you need the install CD
[12:20] <Kanon321> i downloaded dapper last night and installed it
[12:20] <fishy> brotherJohn1234: Can I get it working on another monitor? I don't need dual screens.
[12:20] <Kanon321> but when it gets to booting the kernel
[12:20] <davegoodson> JW: skype now says problem with sound device
[12:20] <Kanon321> it just stops
[12:20] <JW> davegoodson - but in gnome, do you get sound there ?
[12:20] <brotherJohn1234> fishy: sry. no plan.
[12:21] <Kanon321> can anyone help
[12:21] <stefg> fishy: normally that's a bios setting
[12:21] <liquidscythe> hey
[12:21] <fishy> stefg: Alright, I'll check out the BIOS.
[12:21] <Kanon321> is there anyway i can ssh the iso image to my second laptop and then use that to install dapper?
[12:21] <bl3ssing> now ...I've written my kubuntu 6 on cd. Shall I reboot my computer and boot from this cd to install the Kub 6? Am I allowed to install it over the kub.5?
[12:21] <liquidscythe> how do i get the plguins for ubuntus movie player
[12:22] <liquidscythe> it wont play any it says i need these plugins
[12:22] <bl3ssing> use adept liquidscythe
[12:22] <Jentsu> I was wondering if I could get some help... I tried installing ubuntu, and it's gotten as far as doing the memcheck, but it will never go past it. I have tried it a few times, going 5 to 8 hours each time, but it never goes beyond. I thought that was kinda weird, so I asked a friend, and he said his only took about an hour. Any help on why it won't finish the memcheck?
[12:22] <bl3ssing> it will really help you.
[12:22] <liquidscythe> ?
[12:22] <philipsmith> Hi. How often should I recompile the Kernel for Breezy?
[12:22] <AndyCooll> fishy: Are you just meaning viewing what's normally on your laptop screen instead viewing it on aa CRT or something like that?
[12:22] <mcphail> azcazandco: how are you doing?
[12:22] <sorush20> hi guys I just did sudo chown me /home , and I seem to have lost all my data on my home partition
[12:22] <JW> liquidscythe - install them with automatix
[12:22] <dli> Kanon321, no cd-rom booting?
[12:22] <sorush20> why?
[12:22] <mjr> Kanon321, yes, but it's somewhat difficult and I don't have time to go through it
[12:22] <stefg> Kanon321: principally yes, but you'd need a dapper boot floppy ot other means of bootung the install system
[12:22] <bl3ssing> now ...I've written my kubuntu 6 on cd. Shall I reboot my computer and boot from this cd to install the Kub 6? Am I allowed to install it over the kub.5?
[12:22] <Kanon321> then why reply mjr
[12:22] <Kanon321> i burnt the iso to a disc
[12:22] <azcazandco> mcphail: no ttoo bad I guess
[12:23] <dli> sorush20, chown won't cause data loss :)
[12:23] <Kanon321> but it doesnt boot
[12:23] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do you clear up the history on ubuntu? (ex. the histroy in "search for files")
[12:23] <Sarra> o.O I'm getting the error '
[12:23] <azcazandco> been a loooong day
[12:23] <mcphail> azcazandco: any progress?
[12:23] <Sarra> "Mozilla mplayer flash plugin: not available in any software channels
[12:23] <masticore> Any programming-editors with orginal php highlightning ?
[12:23] <Kanon321> is there a help file that cn show me mjr
[12:23] <sorush20> I don't know what has happened to my home partition is is now empty..
[12:23] <bl3ssing> hellooooooooooooo, anybody there? everybody's sleeping? wake upppppppppppp! :)
[12:23] <dli> Kanon321, it's broken, burn with 4x speed and with data verification
[12:23] <azcazandco> to be honest... no, have gone no further than backing up my firewire to the new 200gb drive
[12:23] <liquidscythe> WTF IS AUTOMATIX
[12:23] <liquidscythe> where is it
[12:23] <liquidscythe> ahh
[12:24] <jrib> !automatix
[12:24] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:24] <azcazandco> wasn't sure of the best way to wipe the external drive
[12:24] <JW> sorush20- sudo nautilus and check the file permissions
[12:24] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do you clean the cache in ubuntu?
[12:24] <liquidscythe> how do i get it tho
[12:24] <jrib> Sarra: you need multiverse
[12:24] <mcphail> azcazandco: just format it - sudo mke2fs -j /dev/whatever (after unmounting it)
[12:24] <jrib> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: in firefox?
[12:24] <drt> has anyone got the bcm4318 wifi card working in dapper
[12:25] <Kanon321> isnt it possible to mount an iso image and run it?
[12:25] <drt> ive done a ton of research and still have not gotten it to work
[12:25] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> jrib: Just in general to free up memory on ubuntu.
[12:25] <azcazandco> mcphail: one thing I have noticed is that I have less stuff recognised ont his install of ubuntu
[12:25] <JW> liquidscythe - check teh ubuntuforums on how to install it
[12:25] <Kanon321> and install that way
[12:25] <masticore> Any programming-editors with orginal php highlightning? highlight me
[12:25] <m3talc0re> damn fonts aren't installing worth a damn
[12:25] <AaronShaf> What library should I install to use "dig"?
[12:25] <mcphail> azcazandco: in what way?
[12:25] <azcazandco> before it picked up my external and filesystem on the desktop
[12:25] <drt> i just want this wifi card to work
[12:25] <azcazandco> now I only see my external
[12:25] <jrib> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: no need, it gets freed up when a program needs it.  Otherwise, the operating system will use your memory efficiently
[12:26] <davegoodson> JW: it says now "problem with sound device
[12:26] <drt> default installation shows wireless in networking on eth1 but it doesnt connect
[12:26] <mcphail> azcazandco: which filesystem are you not picking up?
[12:26] <stefg> !wifi > drt
[12:26] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> jrib: How do i clear out the things i searched for in the search box?
[12:26] <jrib> masticore: what is "_original_ php highlighing"?
[12:26] <drt> then i tried all these methods with ndiswrapper but nothing has worked
[12:26] <azcazandco> just on the desktop I had my local filesys b4
[12:26] <slobokan> OH MAN
[12:26] <Jentsu> I was wondering if I could get some help... I tried installing ubuntu, and it's gotten as far as doing the memcheck, but it will never go past it. I have tried it a few times, going 5 to 8 hours each time, but it never goes beyond. I thought that was kinda weird, so I asked a friend, and he said his only took about an hour. Any help on why it won't finish the memcheck?
[12:26] <Samus_Aran> yay, postfix is working.  thank you brotherJohn1234
[12:26] <kbrosnan> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, edit -> preferences -> privacy
[12:27] <ttyfscker> anybody in here know how to get xmms::remote working with ubuntu?
[12:27] <drt> stefg: id like to talk to someone who has actually gotten the card i have working
[12:27] <mcphail> azcazandco: can you access the filesystem?
[12:27] <Dimitris> I am using k3b in ubuntu and while i can burn data and image on cds just fine when i try to burn audio cds (after i installed the codec for mp3 files) i get an error saying that i don't have permissions on the device.  So i have to use sudo k3b to burn an audio cd. How do i set permission for users?
[12:27] <JW> m3talc0re - after copying the fonts over do : sudo fc-cache -f -v
[12:27] <ttyfscker> sup m3talc0re
[12:27] <azcazandco> yes, through thundar or whatever it is called
[12:27] <fishy> There weren't any settings in the BOIS for video except brightness and LCD expansion.
[12:27] <m3talc0re> not much man, trying to install fonts in ubuntu and it's bein' a pain in the ass
[12:28] <three> jentsu: have you tried making another disk, sometimes they dont burn right the first time
[12:28] <fishy> Any other ideas on how to getting working?
[12:28] <mcphail> azcazandco: i have no idea what thundar is. Are you just missing an icon from the desktop?
[12:28] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: you have to run the k3b configuration
[12:28] <azcazandco> jyep
[12:28] <m3talc0re> lemme give that crap a try
[12:28] <azcazandco> in short
[12:28] <ttyfscker> k3bsetup
[12:28] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> kbrosnan: How do i get to edit?
[12:28] <Jentsu> three: what do you mean?
[12:28] <JW> davegoodson -so sound does not work out of the box on your usb, this is too complicated to fix in a chat. Try to get some help on the forums, sry :)
[12:28] <mcphail> azcazandco: running GNOME?
[12:28] <kbrosnan> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, open firefox
[12:28] <azcazandco> is nothing i guess, just different from how it setup before
[12:28] <azcazandco> mcphail: yes
[12:28] <davegoodson> JW: np
[12:29] <mcphail> azcazandco: you can change this using gconf-editor. Don't worry about it
[12:29] <JW> davegoodson - because maybe you need a driver for your usb device..... it can be complicated
[12:29] <Dimitris> ttyfscker, did that but what do i put in permissions.  Its 660 and next to it in new permissions it says 666root.root.
[12:29] <azcazandco> the reason I stayed with gnome b4 was that it picked everything up....
[12:29] <jrib> Is there any problem with running mysql and postgresql at the same time?
[12:29] <three> Jentsu: Download the ISO again and burn it to a disk to see if your roblem was the media it was burned on
[12:29] <liquidscythe> i cannot find automatix
[12:29] <liquidscythe> can someone give me link
[12:29] <azcazandco> okay ... got bigger fish to fry I guess
[12:29] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> kbrosnan: Sorry I was not talking about the search box in firefox I was talking about the "search for files" in ubuntu.
[12:29] <jrib> liquidscythe: join #automatix, there is also easyubuntu which is similar
[12:29] <jrib> !easyubuntu
[12:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:29] <mcphail> azcazandco: it is easily solved. As i said, don't worry about it just now. You still have your old ubuntu install anyway
[12:29] <Jentsu> three: okay, but what should I do about how it's set-up at the moment?
[12:30] <JW>  liquidscythe - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=77
[12:30] <azcazandco> so I need to unmount sdc
[12:30] <kbrosnan> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, no clue then, I am a firefox expert
[12:30] <PingunZ> hintswen, is it safe to turn off cron and anacron from boot ?
[12:30] <azcazandco> then format sdc to ext3
[12:30] <mcphail> azcazandco: yes
[12:30] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:30] <PingunZ> hintswen, is it safe to turn off cron and anacron from boot ?
[12:30] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: 666 would be read / write for everyone..
[12:30] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> kbrosnan: lol np thanx for trying to help tho.
[12:30] <azcazandco> lol
[12:30] <mcphail> azcazandco: you may want to partition it first. How big is the drive?
[12:30] <three> Jentsu: im not sure what you're asking
[12:30] <azcazandco> 250gb
[12:31] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: in k3bsetup there is an option to grant special privileges for a user
[12:31] <liquidscythe> no one is talking
[12:31] <liquidscythe> wtf
[12:31] <mcphail> azcazandco: that is the _external_ firewire drive you are going to use for backup?
[12:31] <liquidscythe> just help me in here
[12:31] <Jentsu> three: will it be a problem with it already being partially installed?
[12:31] <azcazandco> yes
[12:31] <Renan_s2> I'm back
[12:31] <azcazandco> is sdc I believe after installing my 2nd sata drive
[12:31] <JW> liquidscythe - you checked the link i gave you ?
[12:31] <cotroler> wb
[12:32] <mcphail> azcazandco: If i were you, i'd partition that into a 100, 100 and 50
[12:32] <three> jentsu: oh you got it installed! I didn't know that, sry, then the only thing I can think of is that your ram could be bad or the install was botched somewhere
[12:32] <azcazandco> for what reason?  just curious
[12:32] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: just check the boxes and click ok.  it will then configure k3b. and you can run it with a normal user after that
[12:32] <affan> is there a problem with cdrecord working with kernel 2.6?
[12:32] <Kanon321> can i put an iso image on an empty hard drive with the live cd and have it run on boot?
[12:32] <ompaul>  liquidscythe calm down, there are 843 people here, state a question wait up to 15 minutes repeat - if automatix gives you issues please go to the channel #automatix it is not supported here thanks :-)
[12:32] <keldon> liquidscythe: how can you not find automatix, it's the first hit on google?
[12:33] <Dimitris> ttyfscker, well the device seems to have the right permissions.  Its /dev/scd0 with new permissions 666 root.cdrom.  Maybe it has something to do with the permissions of found programs such as cdrecord and cdrdao.
[12:33] <m3talc0re> my son FINALLY fell alseep to take a nap
[12:33] <masticore> jrib: orginal php highlightning is those colors highlight_string() returns
[12:33] <mcphail> azcazandco: you may want to use it for other things in the future (perhaps a spare fat32 or ntfs partition for backing up from windows)
[12:33] <SuperMiguel> !topic 123
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic 123 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:33] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: click ok if those are checked.. and then re run k3b
[12:33] <azcazandco> okay
[12:33] <mcphail> azcazandco: if you are happy as things are, just go ahead and format the whole thing
[12:33] <ompaul> SuperMiguel, what are you trying to find out?
[12:33] <affan> cdrecord says there are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer... any hints?
[12:33] <azcazandco> so what was the command again?
[12:33] <Dimitris> ttyfscker, the only box available in k3bsetup is "Use burning group" and is not checked.
[12:34] <azcazandco> umount sdc
[12:34] <three> I can't remember who asked but you can get Automatix here http://www.box.net/public/vr4jpu6sm0
[12:34] <mcphail> azcazandco: just check one thing: when you "sudo umount /dev/sda4" does the external disk icon disappear?
[12:34] <JW> affan - ignore them, no problem
[12:34] <mcphail> /dev/sda3 i mean
[12:34] <Jentsu> three: well, there is some problem on the CD... I was probably really stupid to install before running the "check cd" thing. how do I remove what is there, though?
[12:34] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: at the bottom click ok as long as your device's have a check box beside them
[12:34] <TGM> Is there an easier way to install fonts then one at a time through the terminal?
[12:34] <three> jentsu: just install over it
[12:34] <mcphail> aaargh /dev/sdc1 !!!
[12:34] <alex_ndc> hi people ... I have a tiny problem ... I am a current KDE user, and noticed that the Gnome applications I run have a very poor refresh rate when redrawing windows / widgets (quite annoying).
[12:34] <alex_ndc> Is this an (K)Ubuntu issue, or a GDK/GTK+ issue ?
[12:34] <affan> JW: but it doesnt work... i tried cdrecord -scanbus and it gave me the errors
[12:34] <JW> TGM - just explained it a few pages ago
[12:34] <Jentsu> three: what do I do for the partition part?
[12:35] <azcazandco> not found
[12:35] <TokenBad> can someone show me a tutorial that walks through installing ubuntu from a hard drive?
[12:35] <SuperMiguel> !wine
[12:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:35] <mcphail> azcazandco: sorry, i'm having a brainfart
[12:35] <azcazandco> I am sure it is sdc1
[12:35] <affan> JW: it says: Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver
[12:35] <sorush20> need help... in gparted I can see that my home partition is not empty, but in konqueror  browser my home folder has become empty
[12:35] <azcazandco> mcphail: you seem to have done as long a day as me
[12:35] <sorush20> what can I do?
[12:35] <TGM> JW - I haven't been here for a few pages, I just logged in <<;
[12:35] <mcphail> azcazandco: yup
[12:35] <JW> affan - hmmm , use nerolinux :)
[12:35] <bobovski> Hi all, can someone recommend a program for burning .iso files to dvd? I've got a backup of a dvd movie here and I need to burn it
[12:35] <JW> TGM : sudo nautilis
[12:36] <three> jentsu: just do it as you did before, it should write over it, if you are still worried about it you can download the Gparted live CD and format over it that way
[12:36] <azcazandco> okay, I nailed it with sdc1
[12:36] <keldon> bobovski: k3b
[12:36] <bobovski> i backed up the dvd with k9copy, but can't seem to do anything with it
[12:36] <JW> TGM - copy your fonts into fonts:///
[12:36] <bobovski> is that in the standard repositories?
[12:36] <mcphail> azcazandco: good. Now check your backup from it is ok
[12:36] <JW> TGM -then do sudo fc-cache -f -v
[12:36] <Jentsu> three: but won't it try to create a new partition? I still have windows loaded and do not wish to remove it, or at least not yet.
[12:36] <azcazandco> how do you mean?
[12:36] <bobovski> keldon: ok, getting it now
[12:36] <azcazandco> my local backup?
[12:37] <JW> TGM - ctrl-l to get the url bar in nautilus
[12:37] <mcphail> azcazandco: check you have successfully copied the files you wanted to keep from it
[12:37] <azcazandco> yeah got it all locally :D
[12:37] <TGM> awesome, thanks :D
[12:37] <Kibou> bobovski: nautilus burns isos as well
[12:37] <mournahan> my dapper install freezes multiple times a day? can any one help? I tried removing some of the power management utilities in the Boot Up Manager, (Worked in Breezy), any help would be appreciated!
[12:37] <mcphail> azcazandco: good,good! Now "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1"
[12:37] <azcazandco> tested a file and it was fine
[12:37] <ttyfscker> Kibou:: it does a poor job at it too
[12:37] <Dimitris> ttyfscker, thanks for your help i will give it a try tomorrow its getting late in Cyprus!
[12:37] <JW> TGM - np
[12:37] <Kibou> how is it poor?
[12:38] <ttyfscker> Dimitris:: your welcome
[12:38] <three> jentsu: oh i never thought of that, you can still use the gparted live cd but youll have to be very careful to choose the correct partition... I'd back up if I were you
[12:38] <bobovski> kibou: oh, really? hmm, I'll look at that too then
[12:38] <ttyfscker> Kibou:: it just lacks a lot of features
[12:38] <liquidscythe> ok i install ubuntu a little while ago, do i need to run any update commands?
[12:38] <ttyfscker> Kibou:: did you know there is a nerolinux?
[12:38] <Kibou> ttyfscker: and what option do you need to burn isos?
[12:38] <Kibou> I do
[12:38] <swim> hey folks, I'm trying to get banshee with smartplaylists support, does anyone have that installed?
[12:38] <skavenge> is there a command to force the unmount of a cdrom?
[12:38] <azcazandco> mcphail: I think where I went wrong is that I deactivated the 60gb partiton before thinking that I had unmounted the windows bit for resizing
[12:39] <keldon> liquidscythe: you could run apt-get update, but the update manager keeps track of updates on a daily basis
[12:39] <azcazandco> so I dont know if it has actually been written over
[12:39] <JW> liquidscythe - use system updater or synaptic in system/admin
[12:39] <Zajin> Hi, lately when playing Warosw or Enemy Territory my X restarts or the pc reboots. I also noticed this behaviour once, when there have been new updates. After searching a little I now believe it's due to my graphics drivers. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[12:39] <ttyfscker> isos are one thing but ogg/m4a/vcd/svcd those are other things..
[12:39] <ThatGuyThatTime> whoa
[12:39] <mcphail> azcazandco: judging by your fdisk output, it has
[12:39] <ThatGuyThatTime> i just got kicked out of #ubuntu-offtopic for no reason?
[12:39] <Bonez56> i love night shift
[12:39] <Kibou> ttyfscker: well.. for isos it works just fine...
[12:39] <Kibou> Zajin: same problem here
[12:39] <ttyfscker> ThatGuyThatTime:: lemme guess SeveASS?
[12:39] <Jentsu> three: okay. I know that the two partitions are set at different sizes... but just to be on the safe side, can you point me to something explaining or explain yourself how to choose which one from the installer, as it is shown in the installer?
[12:40] <azcazandco> mcphail: scunner :(
[12:40] <ThatGuyThatTime> i think it was someone named gnomefreak
[12:40] <ttyfscker> ahh
[12:40] <micahcowan> Zajin: be sure it's not dust in your computer... that's bitten me more than once (including very recently)
[12:40] <ThatGuyThatTime> he got ops then i was gone
[12:40] <ttyfscker> that sounds like him too
[12:40] <fuoco> what's PLF ?
[12:40] <DarkAudit> Penguin Liberation Front
[12:40] <liquidscythe> says only one update manager is allows
[12:40] <liquidscythe> allowed
[12:40] <keldon> Palistina Liberation Front?
[12:40] <liquidscythe> wtf
[12:40] <Zajin> Kibou: i think these restarts always occur on some particular maps. I also saw a bug report, which says when you open this file do this and that its gonna restart X. well i opened it and it rebooted.
[12:40] <JW> liquidscythe - yep ypu can start only 1 aat the time... close the other
[12:41] <liquidscythe> whats the other one
[12:41] <fuoco> DarkAudit: what means ?
[12:41] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: do you ever do anything besides use your op power?
[12:41] <Jentsu> three: (I made my windows one smaller, as I'm going to just be using it for my gaming that won't run well on linux.)
[12:41] <liquidscythe> now it says a package manager is working
[12:41] <nickuuuuu] > I have partitioned my windows PC into 3 parts. Part1=Windows Part2=Programs Part3=Documents - Is it possible to install ubuntu onto Part3 which has a lot of space available? If so how can I install it into that particular partition? Thanks
[12:41] <Zajin> micahcowan: i first thought it was the heat, therefore i opened my case. set my fan to run a little faster and so on. Well but the hardware is working fine. :-/
[12:41] <JW> liquidscythe - you cannot use apt in synaptic or the update manager is running
[12:41] <Azmodan> I just installed ubuntu and all I get when I book it a grub error 21 :/
[12:41] <ttyfscker> gosh
[12:41] <DarkAudit> fuoco: for packages like libdvdcss that mar or may not be legal to use in your area... not carried in the official repositories
[12:41] <Kibou> Zajin: open what file? I also have crashed on other distro than ubuntu btw.. maybe a general driver issues
[12:41] <DarkAudit> s/mar/may
[12:41] <madewokherd> Azmodan: what's error 21?
[12:41] <Kibou> crashes*
[12:41] <Azmodan> Who knows...
[12:42] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: what was that guy banned for?
[12:42] <Azmodan> Grub says "error 21".
[12:42] <Zajin> Kibou: Give me a second to find it again.
[12:42] <madewokherd> there isn't a description?
[12:42] <Kibou> my spelling sucks..
[12:42] <mcphail> azcazandco: has it formatted?
[12:42] <three> jentsu: this is where your particular setup is the determining factor.  usually your C: is hda or hda1 depending on your physical drive setup.
[12:42] <Kibou> geez
[12:42] <azcazandco> mcphail: it has finished what it was doing
[12:42] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: that is not your concern he knows what he did and is doing
[12:42] <Azmodan> No, grub just say "loading stage 1.5" then error 21 and nothing.
[12:42] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: i guess...
[12:42] <mcphail> azcazandco: does it say something about tune2fs?
[12:42] <azcazandco> yup
[12:42] <micahcowan> Zajin: but what about dust? fanspeed will make precious little difference if the heatsink on your CPU is coated... (not saying that's your problem, just to be sure you know it's not :) )
[12:42] <Jentsu> three: but how would I choose which partition to write over in the installer?
[12:43] <mcphail> azcazandco: excellent. Has the icon reappeared on your desktop?
[12:43] <Azmodan> Linux is on my second hard drive (I gave it the whole drive).  Windows have the first (smaller) drive.
[12:43] <azcazandco> no
[12:43] <Zajin> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+bug/47122
[12:43] <azcazandco> do i need to remount?
[12:43] <masticore> Any programming-editors with orginal php highlightning? highlight me
[12:43] <m3talc0re> they just showed that retarded sketchers commercial again
[12:43] <m3talc0re> any of you seen it?
[12:43] <mcphail> azcazandco: type "mount" at the terminal and see if /dev/sdc1 is mounted
[12:43] <andriijas> how do i setup a firewall on my ubuntu machine?
[12:43] <Zajin> micahcowan: i am sure it's not. I checked all this stuff :-/ And as you can see i am not the only one..
[12:43] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: nope
[12:43] <ttyfscker> !offtopic
[12:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:43] <Renan_s2> masticore, I think that KDevelop should work...
[12:43] <ttyfscker> :P
[12:43] <m3talc0re> "breaking news, you don't have to tie your shoe laces anymore!"
[12:44] <nickuuuuu] > I have partitioned my windows PC into 3 parts. Part1=Windows Part2=Programs Part3=Documents - Is it possible to install ubuntu onto Part3 which has a lot of space available? If so how can I install it into that particular partition? Thanks
[12:44] <m3talc0re> they're velcro shoes
[12:44] <Zajin> Kibou: the link to the textfile was in the last link i have posted.
[12:44] <m3talc0re> yeah, like that's new...
[12:44] <masticore> Renan_s2: is that for kde ?
[12:44] <ttyfscker> sketchers suck.. everyone needs vans
[12:44] <azcazandco> where is the ubuntu pastebin again?
[12:44] <bobovski> so far so good with k3b...
[12:44] <Renan_s2> masticore, yes
[12:44] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <Renan_s2> I use it as an IDE for programming C/C++
[12:44] <Madpilot> azcazandco, ^^^
[12:44] <jron> anyone know how i might go about getting multiple audio streams to play at the same time? i have an nvidia2 ac97 built in audio controller.
[12:44] <three> jentsu: to tell you the truth I cant remeber I havent used the installer for awhile, I've been on the same install for about a year now, when dappe came out i just dist upgraded, sorry i cant be more of a help
[12:44] <m3talc0re> lol, i'm not a shoe wearer
[12:44] <m3talc0re> boots!
[12:44] <Renan_s2> but I guess it works for PHP too
[12:44] <azcazandco> thanks :D
[12:44] <masticore> Renan_s2: I have gnome, does it work with gnome too ?
[12:44] <Kibou> Zajin: yea.. not going to try it "now" though :P
[12:44] <Renan_s2> masticore, yes
[12:44] <Madpilot> m3talc0re, #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:44] <masticore> Renan_s2: ok
[12:45] <ttyfscker> jron:: you can try esd output..
[12:45] <Jentsu> three: okay. thanks anyways.
[12:45] <azcazandco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18963
[12:45] <m3talc0re> i got one pair of new balance tenis shoes, then i got some wolverene boots and some harley boots :P
[12:45] <johnl>  I reported a kernel bug using launchpad and, now weeks later, it's not had much attention.  I now notice that I reported on the package linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 (Ubuntu) whereas most other reports are on the package linux-source-2.6.15.  which is the right place to report kernel bugs?
[12:45] <ttyfscker> jron:: some cards  only support 1 channel of audio
[12:45] <Zajin> Does anyone know wether the nvidia legacy drivers support the 6600GT? I'd give them a shot then.
[12:45] <ivan> hi
[12:45] <mournahan> anyone have problems with freezeing?
[12:45] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: i just got a pair of NB's too
[12:45] <jron> ttyfscker: dumb question, but how does windows do it then? =(
[12:45] <azcazandco> mournahan: i have had that big time
[12:45] <Jentsu> Does anyone else know how I would overwrite an install on a specific partition without touching the other one?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> m3talc0re: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that as Madpilot suggested
[12:45] <azcazandco> am on a fresh install so gonna keep an eye out for it
[12:45] <ivan> TENGO UN PROBLEMA CON EL KERNEL
[12:45] <keldon> Zajin: why would you want to use the legacy drivers when the normal drivers support that card?
[12:46] <Zajin> and could anyone point me to an installation howto, since I tried it myself.. and well... it didn't worked so well.
[12:46] <jrib> !es
[12:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:46] <Renan_s2> !pt
[12:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:46] <liquidscythe> whats the update command?
[12:46] <ttyfscker> jron:: windows drivers will wrap things into one channel.. this can be done in linux too, but it requires some recompiling, and editing source codes
[12:46] <Zajin> keldon: because there current ones seem to reboot my pc regularly
[12:46] <azcazandco> mcphail: did that paste make sense?
[12:46] <MTecknology> I'm trying to run pcsx from a prconfigured package. I try to run an ISO of my cd, but pcsx doesn't like that type of file... I can't figure out how to make it use the CD drive either.
[12:46] <keldon> Zajin: strange, i have the same card, been running fine since Breezy
[12:46] <masticore> Renan_s2: is there a package for that program ?
[12:46] <mcphail> azcazandco: did you move your original sata disk?
[12:46] <azcazandco> nope
[12:46] <jron> ttyfscker: any suggestions on a card to buy that has multiple audio chans? for cheap cheap cheap? =)
[12:46] <Renan_s2> masticore, I think it would be 'kdevelop'
[12:46] <swim> hey folks, I'm trying to get banshee with smartplaylists support, does anyone have that installed?
[12:47] <azcazandco> but i think it maybe became sda2
[12:47] <ttyfscker> jron:: the hardware companies make the sources to their drivers hard to obtain.  so people have to write them from scratch, and it usually lacks some features..
[12:47] <mcphail> azcazandco: paste the output from df -h
[12:47] <Zajin> keldon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+bug/47122 might want to try this? :D
[12:47] <nickuuuuu] > I have partitioned my windows PC into 3 parts. Part1=Windows Part2=Programs Part3=Documents - Is it possible to install ubuntu onto Part3 which has a lot of space available? If so how can I install it into that particular partition? Thanks
[12:47] <ttyfscker> jron:: walmart has the Sound Blaster Live Audigy cards pretty cheap.. like 19.99 or so
[12:47] <ttyfscker> jron:: they support 32 channels i think
[12:47] <ivan_> espaol
[12:47] <Renan_s2> masticore, try kdevelop3 and kdevelop3-data
[12:47] <masticore> Renan_s2:  didnt find it : /
[12:47] <masticore> Renan_s2:  ok
[12:48] <azcazandco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18965
[12:48] <Jentsu> Does anyone else know how I would overwrite an install on a specific partition without touching the other one?
[12:48] <skavenge> is there a command to force the unmount of a cdrom?
[12:48] <jron> that would be.... wonderfull, i could actually listen to an album and hear when it is my turn to go in poker.
[12:48] <SUSaiyan> gnomefreak: may i know why "ThatGuyThatTime" was banned? (just wondering (please dont ban me))
[12:48] <SUSaiyan> lol
[12:48] <ttyfscker> jron:: the sound blaster driver for linux is well designed too. it works pretty damn good
[12:49] <mcphail> azcazandco: phew. i take it that your old sata disk is now /dev/sdb...
[12:49] <nickuuuuu] > I have partitioned my windows PC into 3 parts. Part1=Windows Part2=Programs Part3=Documents - Is it possible to install ubuntu onto Part3 which has a lot of space available? If so how can I install it into that particular partition? Thanks
[12:49] <DrBashir2> nickuuuuu]  though I dont know whats best practise, but you probably want to make room for at least 2 partitions, ext? and a linux-swap, where ? stands for either 2 or 3
[12:49] <ttyfscker> SUSaiyan:: i done asked.. he wont tell the reason
[12:49] <nickuuuuu] > nvm actually
[12:49] <azcazandco> think so yes
[12:49] <nickuuuuu] > ok thanks DrBashir
[12:49] <jron> thank you for the info ttyfscker
[12:49] <nickuuuuu] > ok thanks DrBashir2
[12:49] <SUSaiyan> ttyfscker: okay :o
[12:49] <ttyfscker> no prob jron
[12:49] <mcphail> azcazandco: give me a moment to check your old partition table
[12:49] <azcazandco> ok
[12:49] <DrBashir2> whats the better file system to use actually, ext2 or ext3?
[12:50] <keldon> Zajin: i'll pass thanks :)
[12:50] <Renan_s2> DrBashir, ext3
[12:50] <DrBashir2> ah good :)
[12:50] <dli> DrBashir, ext3 the default, but jfs is a good choice, if you want something else
[12:50] <DrBashir2> ubuntu made that the default choice,  so I went with that
[12:51] <Jentsu> Does anyone else know how I would reinstall over a previous partial installation on a specific partition without touching the other one?
[12:51] <tuxtux> !vmware
[12:51] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:51] <ttyfscker> if someone here by chance compiled their own kernel of 2.6.17. have you tried vmware on it yet?  i cant figure out why 2.6.17 wont accept the module for vmmon
[12:52] <AndyCooll> jentsu: Yes, when it comes to the partitioning stage of the install select manual installation
[12:52] <cotroler> hey ppl to install 32 bit kubuntu do i have 2 format? i have 64 bit
[12:52] <micahcowan> DrBashir2: ext3 is a superset of ext2 (basically, ext2 + journaling). It can even be accessed as an ext2 fs (though that would throw off the journaling, upon writes).
[12:52] <mcphail> azcazandco: can you paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[12:52] <AndyCooll> jentsu: apologies should have read ...select manually partition
[12:52] <DrBashir2> so is ext3 slower than 2?
[12:53] <quiet> any ideas why wlan0 (ndiswrapper) keeps changing to eth1 when the interface is active... if i'm not near wireless and hardwired, it shows as wlan0... but if there is a connection available, it shows as eth1... very strange... modprobe has the entry for ndiswrapper aliased as wlan0...
[12:53] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: okay, thanks. Is that going to be too terribly difficult to figure out?
[12:53] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: manually partitioning, that is?
[12:53] <andriijas> what package is the /etc/rc.firewall file in?
[12:53] <azcazandco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18966
[12:53] <crazy_penguin> night all! sleep well!
[12:54] <SUSaiyan> night
[12:54] <AndyCooll> jentsu: then highlight that partition select "format it" and choose that partition as /
[12:54] <AndyCooll> jentsu: well, it seems more difficult than it actually is in truth
[12:54] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: Is that it?
[12:54] <mcphail> azcazandco: excellent. Now we need to mount your firewire drive again. The easiest way might be to unplug it and plug it in
[12:54] <micahcowan> DrBashir2: not noticeably: I think journal writes tend to happen during idle times (dunno, not an expert in the formats)
[12:55] <AndyCooll> jentsu: the partitioning wizard gives you choices
[12:55] <azcazandco> how about turn on turn off?
[12:55] <AndyCooll> jentsu: yes
[12:55] <azcazandco> is hard to get into the back
[12:55] <DrBashir2> so as there are more ppl on now...: How can I make a remote connection with ubuntu but only using port 80
[12:55] <mcphail> azcazandco: whatever, or we can mount from the command line
[12:55] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: Thanks... That sounds much easier than I expected.
[12:55] <masticore> Renan_s2: Nah, wasnt the colors I was looking for, but it was better then the highlightning in Bluefish
[12:56] <ddonky> anyone using geforce2 6200?
[12:56] <kevin1> I am attempting to hide panels following this gude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170864&highlight=panel+autohide  I am either incredible blind or these directions are incomplete... I don't have any panel_0, panel_1, top_panel_screen0 folders all i have is default_setup\toplevels\top_panel & bottom_panel.. I Changed these and nothing happened.. They are still on edge of screen
[12:56] <AndyCooll> jentsu: of course you can begin the install, get to the partitioning stage, have a look at it and if you feel it is too difficult abort. At that stage you won't actually have done anything to your HDD
[12:56] <azcazandco> k I can see it now...
[12:56] <azcazandco> has a funny name
[12:56] <dooglus> ttyfscker: you don't fsck ttys, you fsck hard disks
[12:56] <mcphail> azcazandco: what is its name?
[12:56] <DrBashir2> port 80 as in outgoing. My work has only port 80 open... :|
[12:56] <ttyfscker> dooglus:: i fsck ttys
[12:56] <ttyfscker> :)
[12:56] <andriijas> DrBashir2: ssh tunnel through it
[12:57] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: just one further thing to mention ...you need to partitions minimum / and swap
[12:57] <azcazandco> ieee1394disk
[12:57] <DrBashir2> andriijas, how do I go about that?
[12:57] <kevin1> am I missing something?  Can anyone else follow those directions?
[12:57] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: Wish I could type! That should read "two partitions minimum"
[12:58] <soop> kevin1: what directions?
[12:58] <kevin1> I am attempting to hide panels following this gude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170864&highlight=panel+autohide  I am either incredible blind or these directions are incomplete... I don't have any panel_0, panel_1, top_panel_screen0 folders all i have is default_setup\toplevels\top_panel & bottom_panel.. I Changed these and nothing happened.. They are still on edge of screen
[12:58] <dooglus> AndyCooll: swap is optional.  only / is required.
[12:58] <dooglus> AndyCooll: you can swap to a file on / if you like
[12:58] <mcphail> azcazandco: it will probably be mounted as /media/iee1394disk. Type "ls /media/ieee1394disk"
[12:58] <swim> damn I'm trying to run sudo apt-get build-dep banshee; but I get: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:58] <swim> help?
[12:58] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: oh, okay. Well, since I already tried installing it but it messed up after that stage, there should already be both of those partitions, yes?
[12:59] <mcphail> azcazandco: You should see the lost+found directory
[12:59] <TheCross> can somebody please help me with setting up postifx
[12:59] <dooglus> swim: run a "sudo apt-get update" first
[12:59] <azcazandco> mcphail: i do
[12:59] <unfun> Could someone help me with internet radio problem?
[01:00] <dooglus> swim: also, for 'build-dep to work, you need to have a 'deb-src' line for the corresponding 'deb' line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <kevin1> soop,  are any of those there for you?
[01:00] <DrBashir2> unfun, state your problem, more likely to get an awnser
[01:00] <mcphail> azcazandco: ok. Now type "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/media/ieee1394disk/mbrbackup bs=512 count=1"
[01:00] <AndyCooll> dooglus: accepted. Was just trying to keep it simple though
[01:00] <[ich] > hi! is  it possible to install ubuntu from the commandline? the wizard does not recognize the partitions on the laptop on which i want to install dapper
[01:00] <swim> dooglus: right, I do as a matter of fact... but its failing to connect to ftp.free.fr
[01:00] <dli> [ich] , can you repartition?
[01:00] <unfun> When I try to listen to internet radio I get this problem Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[01:01] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: you might try breaking that partition in to two. Or you could try dooglus's approach
[01:01] <azcazandco> didnt do very much
[01:01] <dli> unfun, weird problem, eventually, I disabled totem plugin and use mplayer plugin for firefox
[01:01] <dooglus> swim: do you need that repo?  if not, try commenting it out - I don't think it can be responsible for the error you paste
[01:01] <[ich] > dli: i can delete the whole hd, but i can not select hda1, in the dialog where i could choose the target partition nothing shows up
[01:01] <mcphail> azcazandco: did it create the file>
[01:01] <unfun> Dlli how do I disable totem?
[01:02] <azcazandco> yes
[01:02] <m3talc0re> bbl, gotta go work out
[01:02] <dooglus> AndyCooll: I would recommend having a separate swap partition.  but I wouldn't claim it was mandatory
[01:02] <azcazandco> was that just a test then?
[01:02] <dli> [ich] , try another livecd, it sounds like your chipset not supported
[01:02] <mcphail> azcazandco: ok. You have backed up the master boot record from the disk
[01:02] <[ich] > dli: in fdisk, the partition table looks alright
[01:02] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: How would I split it up, as far as size distribution goes?
[01:02] <kevin1> I am attempting to hide panels following this gude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170864&highlight=panel+autohide  I am either incredible blind or these directions are incomplete... I don't have any panel_0, panel_1, top_panel_screen0 folders all i have is default_setup\toplevels\top_panel & bottom_panel.. I Changed these and nothing happened.. They are still on edge of screen...  Am I blind or does anyone else have these options?
[01:02] <mcphail> azcazandco: the next thing is to back up the dodgy partition
[01:02] <azcazandco> ok
[01:03] <AndyCooll> dooglus: yeah, I know that is what you meant. Thanks.
[01:03] <DrBashir2> hmm, I subscribed to 2 mailing lists, I have none emails so far ...
[01:03] <quiet> okay fixed that
[01:03] <dli> unfun, just install mplayer plugin
[01:03] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: Well, first you delete it
[01:03] <siio>  hello, can someone dell me how to tell if a driver is pacthed or not? I know dmesg will show me the driver version correct? but does it tell me if its patched
[01:03] <unfun> ok
[01:03] <tuxtux> notte
[01:03] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: Then you create a new partition.
[01:03] <sorush20> I added a new user to my computer
[01:03] <mcphail> azcazandco: type "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/media/ieee1394disk/partbackup" Don't type "bs" or "count" this time
[01:04] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: Say the partition you delete was 10gb, you create the new one to be 9gb
[01:04] <quiet> JUST FEY: If you have a wifi connection that changes between wlan0 and eth1... edit /etc/iftab  my iftab was recording my wifi mac address to eth1.
[01:04] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: And then you create another partition and use the rest of the free space
[01:04] <skavenge> can anyone help with a ut2004 install? when it asks for disk to and i mount it and click 'okay' it never recognizes the second disk??
[01:04] <sorush20> I tried to log into my computer as that user but I was prompted to change its password.. which I did and I was able to log in.. but now when I try to access root there seems to be no password set.. why has this changed?
[01:04] <longwave> kevin1: do you just want autohide on your panels? in dapper you can just right-click a panel, click preferences and select autohide there.
[01:04] <TheCross> can somebody please help me with setting up postifx
[01:05] <Jentsu> AndyCooll: so for a 50gb partition, I should split it as 45/5, or 49/1?
[01:05] <kevin1> longwave,  they are still visible, this is a hack to make them not display anything
[01:05] <mcphail> azcazandco: are your disks whirring away?
[01:05] <azcazandco> yep
[01:05] <mcphail> azcazandco: this is going to take an hour or so to complete
[01:05] <kevin1> longwave,  there a little white edges, I want to make them completely invisible
[01:05] <sorush20> what does Su returned with an error mean?
[01:05] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: They generally say create a swap partition that 1.5 to 2 times the size of your RAM
[01:06] <dli> Jentsu, I would use a small swap, (optional: a small /boot), the rest goes to /
[01:06] <Madpilot> sorush20, that you should be using sudo & your own user pw?
[01:06] <azcazandco> mcphail: you have no idea how greatful I am for your help
[01:06] <dli> Jentsu, if you have 4GB ram, don't make an 8GB swap :)
[01:07] <Renan_s2> if you have 4GB RAM, I believe you don't need swap at all! :)
[01:07] <mcphail> azcazandco: when you have finished the backup, use photorec on /dev/sdb1 and see what you can recover
[01:07] <DrBashir2> dont _alway's_ need a swap?
[01:07] <Jentsu> dli: I don't even know how much I've got, but I'm doubting I have that much.
[01:07] <longwave> kevin1: did you change /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0? i think default_setup is for new panels, maybe
[01:07] <azcazandco> mcphail: what do you do for a living?  the reason that I am up so early each day is to get quiet time before family interupts coding time
[01:07] <dli> Jentsu, free -m
[01:07] <Jentsu> dli: what's that?
[01:07] <mcphail> azcazandco: doctor
[01:07] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: As dli says. In my case I have 1024 so I create a 2gb swap. It could be less I know, but since I have an 80gb HDD I ain't too worried about space
[01:08] <azcazandco> cool
[01:08] <unfun> dlli I did like you said, I installed mplayer, mplayer plugin for mozilla firefox. I still get the same warning otem could not play 'fd://0'.
[01:08] <sorush20> I keep gettting the messge that sorush is not in the sudoers file and it will be reported..
[01:08] <philstar> are there people in this chan that deal with ubuntu.com servers?
[01:08] <kevin1> I don't have /apps/panel/toplevels
[01:08] <azcazandco> and you find time to help in here too?
[01:08] <azcazandco> respect!
[01:08] <kevin1> longwave,  all i have is /apps/panel/default_setup
[01:08] <dli> unfun, I don't run ubuntu myself, let me find the solution for you
[01:08] <mcphail> azcazandco: on study leave at the moment. Exams looming.
[01:08] <kevin1> longwave,  do you have /apps/panel/toplevels ?
[01:09] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: How much RAM do you have?
[01:09] <longwave> yes, and in there i have top_panel_screen0 and bottom_panel_screen0
[01:09] <mcphail> azcazandco: irc breaks the monotony
[01:09] <Jentsu> andycooll: i don't know exactly. how could I find out?
[01:09] <azcazandco> ah... I see :D
[01:10] <Jentsu> andycooll: other than asking the guy who built it, since he's not available at the moment...
[01:10] <unfun> dlli thank you for helping me
[01:10] <devhen> Jentsu, run gnome-system-monitor it will tell you
[01:10] <propan0> hello
[01:10] <dli> unfun, sudo apt-get remove totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[01:10] <longwave> kevin1: and if i change /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0/auto_hide, it does change my top panel
[01:10] <azcazandco> so is photorec in the repositories?
[01:10] <dli> unfun, restart firefox and try again
[01:10] <AndyCooll> Not used XP for awhile. I think it's right click on My Computer, select properties and the details are somewhere around there
[01:10] <kevin1> longwave,  wtf.. I have default_setup, general, global
[01:10] <Jentsu> devhen: where's that at?
[01:10] <mcphail> azcazandco: yes, but download the latest version and use that instead
[01:10] <propan0> question... can anyone help me find the busID (pci slot info) of my nvidia card?
[01:10] <azcazandco> okay
[01:11] <kevin1> longwave,  I bet its because im not running metacity...
[01:11] <devhen> Jentsu, your on windows?! Rick-click on My Computer and go to Properties and it will tell you
[01:11] <azcazandco> can i do that whilst backing up?
[01:11] <dli> propan0, lspci|grep -i vga
[01:11] <kevin1> longwave,  hrmm...
[01:11] <dooglus> last night I configured sshd to only accept keys, not passwords.  now I realise I don't have a copy of my key.  is there any way of logging in?
[01:11] <dooglus> i'm not near the PC
[01:11] <Jentsu> devhen: I'm currently on the live cd.
[01:11] <mcphail> azcazandco: No, i wouldn't. The whole point of the backup is to preserve data if anything borks your already unstable setup
[01:11] <longwave> kevin1: neither am i, i would have thought gnome-panel would own those keys anyway
[01:11] <devhen> Jentsu, launch a terminal window and type gnome-system-monitor then go under the 'resources' tab
[01:11] <dli> dooglus, if it doesn't accept passwd :) it doesn't
[01:12] <propan0> thanks... what part of 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) is it?
[01:12] <dooglus> dli: maybe there's some other service that sshd?
[01:12] <Renan_s2[off] > propan0, 0000:01:00.0
[01:12] <Paladine> propan0, 01
[01:12] <azcazandco> mcphail: I am hoping that my new install will not freeze like my old one was
[01:12] <azcazandco> I am going to try and behave
[01:12] <dli> propan0, if you have only one card, you can leave it blank
[01:12] <Jentsu> devhen: which one is the RAM?
[01:12] <propan0> thanks... im new on this hehe... trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaPCI?highlight=%28pci%29%7C%28nvidia%29
[01:12] <azcazandco> and not go crazy trying to explore my new os
[01:12] <Zajin> Kibou: I have just installed the legacy drivers, and they seem to work now. At least I could open that txtFile.
[01:13] <propan0> i feel like a kid with a new toy :D
[01:13] <mcphail> azcazandco: good luck.
[01:13] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, which one are you installig?
[01:13] <azcazandco> i am dapper drake 32bit
[01:13] <Paladine> awesome movie just starting on sky movies 1 if you are in the UK
[01:13] <azcazandco> am installed
[01:13] <sgc01> Does anyone know if there is a way to use 'rpm' packages with ubuntu 6.06?
[01:13] <kevin1> longwave,  what wm are you running?  I am currently using sawfish w/ gnome
[01:13] <Jentsu> lol... it says I have 666MiB of of swap...
[01:13] <dooglus> propan0: it's a much better toy than your last one - you can take this one apart to see how it works :)
[01:13] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, you have a Ati card?
[01:13] <devhen> Jentsu, under 'Memory and Swap History' it says 'User Memory:' ## out of ## the second ## is the total
[01:13] <mcphail> sgc01: you can use "alien", but i wouldn't
[01:13] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: The one that says "user memory"
[01:13] <azcazandco> yep 9600pro
[01:14] <azcazandco> there is a good tutorial on getting it running
[01:14] <DrBashir2> you might come across a blank sreen after all, but with the 32bit, choose for safe graphic mode
[01:14] <azcazandco> mcphail: have you ever run parallels before?
[01:14] <propan0> yeah dooglus im very excited
[01:14] <interferon> how can i get ogle to take up the entire screen in full-screen mode?
[01:14] <DrBashir2> At least, that worked for me
[01:14] <Jentsu> andycooll: in that case, 502.7MiB
[01:14] <propan0> just got me speedtouch usb to work actualy
[01:14] <propan0> :D
[01:14] <mcphail> azcazandco: sorry, you have lost me
[01:14] <azcazandco> my friend suggested it as he has it runniing on his  new macbook for switching between windows and osx
[01:14] <longwave> kevin1: i am using compiz on gnome
[01:15] <DrBashir2> the 64bit doesn't work at all
[01:15] <azcazandco> allows 2 os to run side by side or summink
[01:15] <devhen> Jentsu, i would set your swap at 1GB
[01:15] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: Ok, you probably want to create a swap partition up to about 1gb then
[01:15] <mcphail> azcazandco: use vmware
[01:15] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, read my omments?
[01:15] <kevin1> longwave,  alright.. well thanks for confirming those exist.. something must be wrong with my box
[01:15] <longwave> kevin1: gnome panels are the same in all window managers so i don't think the wm would make a difference
[01:15] <DrBashir2> comments*
[01:15] <Jentsu> devhen, andycooll: thank you.
[01:15] <longwave> kevin1: try setting autohide in the panel preferences
[01:16] <longwave> maybe you need to change from the defaults for the key to show or something
[01:16] <azcazandco> DrBashir2: where?
[01:16] <azcazandco> mcphail : ok
[01:16] <Jentsu> devhen, andycooll: anything else I should know before trying this again now?
[01:16] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, you might come across a blank sreen after all, but with the 32bit, choose for safe graphic mode
[01:16] <MTecknology> When I try to run PCSX I get this error. This plugin does not support ISO-9660 images. If this is a binary image, rename it with a ".bin" extension.  Any suggestions?
[01:16] <kevin1> longwave,  autohide works... I just don't like it because it leaves a white box on edge of the screen
[01:16] <azcazandco> I trust your judgement
[01:16] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, At least, that worked for me
[01:16] <longwave> ah ok, thats very weird that the keys aren't there then!
[01:16] <azcazandco> DrBashir2: you have lost me
[01:17] <kevin1> longwave,  this hack lets you set how much is visible... so if you set visible to 0px it won't show the white line
[01:17] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, the 64bit doesn't work at all
[01:17] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: Have you backed up your "important" files. Just in case!
[01:17] <azcazandco> yes I am avoiding it
[01:17] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, you were saing you wnet to install 32bit
[01:17] <Jentsu> andycooll: yes, and with any luck, they won't be necessary.
[01:17] <mcphail> DrBashir2: the 64bit version works nicely, but some packages are troublesome
[01:17] <azcazandco> yes, I havent had any troubles with it
[01:18] <azcazandco> apart from my mishap with partitions
[01:18] <DrBashir2> hmm, ok
[01:18] <azcazandco> I have been very impressed with ubuntu
[01:18] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: And you might want to have a look at this website. Just a bit more background. http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[01:18] <longwave> kevin1: yes, changing that to key to 0 works in my panel
[01:18] <DrBashir2> mcphail, well, it was a party stopper
[01:18] <DrBashir2> azcazandco, so have I
[01:18] <azcazandco> first alternative to windows I have ever seriously considered and I now dont have any windows installed on any hd
[01:19] <Jentsu> andycooll: thanks. :)
[01:19] <mcphail> azcazandco: that was more through accident than choice!
[01:19] <azcazandco> mcphail: what progs caused hassle out of interest?
[01:19] <babis85> hello i' ve got a little problem writing a script for bash
[01:19] <azcazandco> mcphail: destiny
[01:19] <mcphail> azcazandco: just the usual ones which require the 32-bit chroot. Reasonably easy to sort out, but more hassle than it was worth
[01:20] <DrBashir2> mcphail, the first version I tried was 64bit, tried several times to boot the live cd, but got stuck with black screen every time, even in safe mode.
[01:20] <babis85> i want to add an operation for creating a m3u file by clicking at the nautilous
[01:20] <kevin1> longwave,  alright well i reply to the forum.. Thanks for confirming it for me
[01:20] <azcazandco> DrBashir2: are you using 6.06 Dapper Drake?
[01:20] <DrBashir2> mcphail, then tried the 32bit, and also a black screen
[01:20] <DrBashir2> mcphail, yes
[01:20] <azcazandco> 5.05 or whatever it was was a bitch to get anything working off the bat
[01:20] <whitesuit> anyone has experienced the "screen frozen, but mouse moves" bug with nvidia cards?
[01:21] <babis85> the code is under .gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[01:21] <DrBashir2> mcphail, then started 32bit in safe mode, and it worked like a charm
[01:21] <sorush20> how do I add myself to sudoers?
[01:21] <babis85> and i have pasted it at http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/2472
[01:21] <mcphail> DrBashir2: doing an "expert" install helped with the last release. I haven't tried 64bit with dapper
[01:21] <babis85> does anybody hear what i am saying?
[01:21] <AndyCooll> Jentsu: You are welcome. Best of luck!
[01:21] <micahcowan> sorush20: if you're using ubuntu, you should already be in sudoers if yours is the admin account?
[01:22] <unfun> dli thanks for your help,
[01:22] <unfun> I fixxed the problem by doing sudo apt-get install totem-xine and sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[01:22] <tritium> sorush20: add users to the admin group if you want them to have sudo priveleges
[01:22] <mcphail> babis85: you don't seem to have asked a question yet
[01:22] <azcazandco> mcphail: not been tempted by dapper 64bit?
[01:22] <dli> unfun, working now?
[01:22] <DrBashir2> mcphail, but 64bit will give problems on more fronts than on boooting alone probably
[01:22] <unfun> yes
[01:23] <babis85> mcphail: thanks, tha problem is that the file is created but it is of size 0 bytes
[01:23] <drew> Hi
[01:23] <mcphail> azcazandco: my 32bit install runs very nicely. the 64bit improvements were quite modest. Not worth changing this install
[01:24] <dli> unfun, I think it will work in the next releases of firefox (2.0) + totem (1.6)
[01:24] <azcazandco> fair enough
[01:24] <drew> Where can I find fun free linux games/applications? I've been googling, but I haven't found anything even remotely entertaining. I'm bored.
[01:24] <SurfnKid> =] 
[01:24] <mcphail> babis85: i suspect the problem lies with the script. try asking in #bash
[01:24] <SuperCouilles> Anyone to help? I only need to "autostart" a program (run as service) and I have no clue... Anyone?
[01:24] <babis85> ok thanks
[01:24] <azcazandco> i just get a little frustrated at the fact I went and bought a 64bit chip for pretty much no reason
[01:24] <azcazandco> gonna go dual core I think
[01:25] <dooglus> SuperCouilles: bum
[01:25] <tritium> SuperCouilles: you'll want to use update-rc.d to install an init script for it
[01:25] <micahcowan> SuperCouilles: as a service, when the computer starts up? Or when a user's desktop session starts?
[01:25] <dli> azcazandco, no worry, amd64 is the future
[01:25] <tritium> SuperCouilles: what is it?  Something you've made?
[01:25] <mcphail> azcazandco: you will have plenty of disk real-estate to try a 64bit install along with your current one
[01:25] <tritium> dli: you mean Core 2...
[01:25] <sgc01> Does anyone know if 'rpm' packages can be opened and how in ubuntu 6.06?
[01:25] <drew> Hi tritium
[01:25] <tritium> hi drew
[01:25] <dli> tritium, core 2 is also amd64
[01:25] <ozubu> anybody know how do I enable gDesklets on Startup ?
[01:25] <mcphail> sgc01: as i said above, with "alien"
[01:26] <mcphail> sgc01: but don't use it
[01:26] <tritium> dli: No, Core 2 is an Intel processor.  AMD64 is an AMd processor
[01:26] <Agrajag> tritium: it's the same architecture
[01:26] <drew> sgc01: alien *.rpm will convert it to a .deb, then dpkg -i the provided .deb
[01:26] <sgc01> sorry, I missed that and thanks alot...
[01:26] <SurfnKid> guys how can i enable open key wep on /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:26] <whitesuit> has anyone experienced the "screen frozen, but mouse moves" bug with nvidia cards?
[01:26] <drew> not *.rpm, name.rpm
[01:26] <Agrajag> amd64 kernels and binaries will run on an Intel processor
[01:26] <SurfnKid> whitesuit, using XGL?
[01:26] <whitesuit> SurfnKid: nope
[01:26] <sgc01> thanks drew, as well...
[01:26] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:26] <bijan> hi
[01:26] <esher> Agrajag, but amds its much slower ;)
[01:26] <SurfnKid> Ive got WEP enabled
[01:27] <azcazandco> mcphail: indeed I do now...
[01:27] <MTecknology> How can I make an image in Ubuntu of a PSX game?
[01:27] <bijan> i have a problem with my teamspeak
[01:27] <whitesuit> SurfnKid: but it seems to appear when using 3d
[01:27] <SurfnKid> but i have to type iwconfig eth1 key open everytime for the interface to go into open mode
[01:27] <Agrajag> it's called amd64 because originally, intel had a different and incompatible 64-bit arch
[01:27] <dli> tritium, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[01:27] <whitesuit> SurfnKid: like with 3d screensavers
[01:27] <azcazandco> can I run an install off of my firewire?
[01:27] <azcazandco> would be slower i am guessing
[01:27] <dli> tritium, don't do misinformation here
[01:27] <SurfnKid> whitesuit, ah ok, mine freezes up when i go from VT to GUI suddenly, no way to get it back, jjust reboot
[01:27] <drew> Has anyone had a problem with bc34xx (or something similar to this) missing after updating from hoary->breezy->dapper?
[01:27] <bijan> other people always here themselves while we re talking simultaniously
[01:27] <mcphail> azcazandco: it doesn't really work
[01:27] <shrewdy> what he means is that intel processors use the amd 64bit extensions...
[01:28] <tritium> dli: I'm not.  Core 2 outperforms AMD64 processors on a per-watt basis
[01:28] <micahcowan> SuperCouilles: there should be a startup script that gdm will invoke, where you can put your vncserver.
[01:28] <azcazandco> k
[01:28] <dli> tritium, yes, but you install the amd64-arch
[01:29] <tritium> dli: I never disputed that, but that was not my point.  Either way, it's offtopic
[01:29] <SurfnKid> where can i find information about /etc/network/interfaces  wireless options and arguments besides man iwconfig or man wireless
[01:29] <dli> tritium, you started it!
[01:29] <micahcowan> SuperCouilles: unfortunately, i'm not actually running Ubuntu right this minute; rather, KDE on debian, so I don't think I can investigate :(
[01:29] <dli> SurfnKid, read the wiki howto
[01:29] <dli> !wiki > SurfnKid
[01:29] <tritium> SurfnKid: also, man wireless
[01:29] <SurfnKid> saweet
[01:30] <drew> American McGee switched to Ubuntu <3
[01:30] <SurfnKid> well im trying to find out a specific one on  wep mode "open,restricted" etc...
[01:30] <SurfnKid> thanks
[01:30] <tritium> SurfnKid: ah, never mind.  You asked for into _beyond_ that ;)
[01:30] <ozubu> nobody know how to enable gDesklets on startup ?
[01:30] <SurfnKid> yeah
[01:31] <SurfnKid> well let me restart and see if itll work again
[01:31] <SurfnKid> brb
[01:31] <dli> ozubu, I don't use it, but you can do gnome-session-properties
[01:31] <tengil> can debian packages be installed in ubuntu. seems like ubuntu doesnt have the vpnc package i worked with in debian...
[01:31] <Renan_S2> I'm back :)
[01:32] <hypnox> tengil, yes
[01:32] <tritium> tengil: it has it
[01:32] <tritium> tengil: and no, it's not advised
[01:32] <tritium> !info vpnc
[01:32] <ubotu> vpnc: Cisco-compatible VPN client. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3+SVN20051028-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:32] <tritium> !universe > tengil
[01:35] <tengil> oh thanks for the info
[01:35] <K^Holtz> does firefox autoupdate on ubuntu?
[01:35] <sethk> K^Holtz, it does the check for update and prompts you
[01:35] <swim> anyone happen to know if there is a banshee package about that has the smartplaylist support added?
[01:36] <K^Holtz> sethk: ok, just wondering b/c 1.5.0.5 is out now
[01:36] <drew> I'm bored, what would you recommend.
[01:36] <drew> s/./?/
[01:36] <Ubuntu_Mac> Hey all. I'm trying to install Dapper Drake on a G4 PowerPC and am having some difficulty. Anybody want to help walk me through it?
[01:37] <sethk> K^Holtz, I know that ff 1.5.0.x prompts you when there is a new minor version - it prompted me for 1.5.0.3 and .4.  Not sure whether if you install the one from the respositories
[01:37] <tritium> Ubuntu_Mac: is it a good burn?
[01:37] <Ubuntu_Mac> It loads up properly.
[01:37] <dli> sethk, 1.5.0.4 is in dapper
[01:37] <Ubuntu_Mac> It's just that whenever I try to boot live, or live-powerpc, or anything, I get a white screen and nothing happens.
[01:37] <tritium> Ubuntu_Mac: so where do you start getting problems?
[01:38] <Madpilot> Ubuntu_Mac, do  you get to the initial menu screen?
[01:38] <TheCross> can somebody please help me with a postfix log?
[01:38] <Ubuntu_Mac> Right now, the Mac says "Welcome to Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake....)"
[01:39] <Ubuntu_Mac> THe prompt reads "boot:"
[01:39] <Ubuntu_Mac> Whenever I try anything, though (other than 'help' or 'TAB'), it goes to a white screen.
[01:39] <azcazandco> mcphail: http://www.parallels.com in case you are curious
[01:40] <Ubuntu_Mac> Trying 'live video-ofonly' doesn't help; I still get a white screen.
[01:40] <TheCross> can somebody please help me with a postfix log?
[01:40] <gilianima> what does LVM mean when partionning the HD during the install of ubuntu server ?
[01:41] <Ubuntu_Mac> Any thoughts, tritium, Madpilot?
[01:41] <mcphail> azcazandco: vmware is the market leader for good reason
[01:41] <tritium> Ubuntu_Mac: no, sorry
[01:41] <Ubuntu_Mac> tritium: Thanks anyway.
[01:41] <jvai> hey uall. i'm n class.. late
[01:41] <tritium> Ubuntu_Mac: sorry :(
[01:42] <mcphail> gilianima: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410
[01:42] <Ubuntu_Mac> tritium: NP
[01:42] <Hogue> what is a good program for copying dvd's
[01:42] <dli> Hogue, dvdrip , or basically, mencoder from mplayer
[01:42] <mournahan> anyone have problems with freezing
[01:43] <drew> Where can I find some fun open source applications? Or does anyone wanna throw some entertaining application titles out so I can google them?
[01:43] <Klowner> drew: what do you want to do?
[01:43] <mcphail> drew: apps or games?
[01:43] <Klowner> drew: freshmeat.net has heaps of apps
[01:43] <mournahan> just type open source in google and you will get millions of results
[01:43] <drew> Klowner, be less bored.
[01:44] <baconbacon> play neverball, or armagetron
[01:44] <nofear> hey can anyone help me?   I am trying set up VMware and im getting this error: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[01:44] <mcphail> nofear: have you installed "build-essential"?
[01:44] <mournahan> nofear: check the forum, there is a nice how to there
[01:45] <nofear> I have been, havent had much luck
[01:45] <mournahan> brb
[01:45] <nofear> Im installing build-essential no
[01:45] <nofear> now
[01:45] <nofear> ls
[01:45] <nofear> oops wrong window
[01:45] <nofear> lol
[01:46] <jvai> lol
[01:46] <mcphail> nofear: should work now
[01:46] <nofear> ya looks like it is
[01:46] <nofear> sweet thanks
[01:46] <nofear> didntk now about build essential :)_
[01:46] <gilianima> mcphail: before reading more about LVM, and to keep on installing right now, should I choose the install with LVM option ?
[01:46] <mcphail> gilianima: is this a production server?
[01:46] <AndyCooll> nofear: At the beginning of the howto it tells you what you need to install before you begin installing vmware. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[01:47] <Masticore> Is there something like windows` System Restore for linux? So you can reset the system to a previouse date? Highlight me
[01:47] <gilianima> mcphail: yes... what else could it be ?
[01:47] <mournahan> nofear:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware
[01:47] <nofear> well, I wasnt able find the how too :)
[01:47] <nofear> thanks mournahan
[01:47] <mcphail> gilianima: then read about it first
[01:47] <jdmpike> anyone use tightVNC? anyone know how to fix Couldn't open RGB_DB
[01:47] <mournahan> Im have a problem with dapper freezing
[01:48] <mcphail> gilianima: LVM is useful, but has RAID-like issues over multiple disks
[01:48] <mournahan> anyone help
[01:48] <AndyCooll> nofear: the vmware player is in the repositories
[01:48] <jdmpike> what are you doing when it freezes?
[01:48] <sethk> mournahan, any useful information in the logs?
[01:48] <gilianima> mcphail: i have just one disk for the moment
[01:48] <increase_> hi everyone
[01:48] <baconbacon> Masticore: there is no such thing afaik.
[01:48] <nofear> ya i know.. i was still haveing probs w/it also due to this error :)
[01:48] <increase_> i just installed Dapper, and I have an option to chane resolution, yet when I change it and it reboots gnome, it jumps back original resolution! any ideas why?
[01:48] <nofear> shouldnt now
[01:48] <mournahan> whitch logs would be best? and how do I access them?
[01:49] <liquidscythe_> i have a question
[01:49] <liquidscythe_> can i download and install XGL on my ubuntu?
[01:49] <mcphail> gilianima: If uptime is important to you, read about the issues first. In most cases, LVM is a nice idea
[01:49] <baconbacon> #ubuntu-xgl
[01:49] <Madpilot> liquidscythe, yes - try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:49] <AlBaloushi> guys i have installed all LAMP in my pc but now i need to upload files to /var/www
[01:49] <nalioth> !xgl > liquidscythe_
[01:49] <azcazandco> liquidscythe: I wasnt that impressed with it
[01:49] <AndyCooll> nofear: THis is the vmwae player howto link. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275
[01:49] <AlBaloushi> can any one tell me how can i transfer my web files
[01:49] <Masticore> baconbacon: Okey
[01:49] <azcazandco> translucency was cool but that was about it
[01:50] <AndyCooll> nofear: It's for Breezy, but the theory is stll the same
[01:50] <azcazandco> dunno if I was missing something though
[01:50] <rpedro_> !fixres > increase_
[01:50] <baconbacon> Masticore: System Restore wouldn't really work on a unix system
[01:50] <mournahan> sethk: which log would be best
[01:50] <increase_> my screens runs so slow. very slow refresh rate :(  wasnt like that in Breezy
[01:51] <bderrly> does anyone know of an easytag like software for images? (my main goal is image renaming in bulk)
[01:51] <mcphail> bderrly: image renaming is a simple bash task
[01:51] <rpedro_> increase_: try opening System >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution , you can change refresh rate there too
[01:51] <Masticore> baconbacon: doh >_<
[01:51] <quiet> i seem to have all the necessary components for php5/mysql5/apache2....  phpinfo page works fine... but using get_magic_quotes_gpc()  isn't working
[01:51] <AlBaloushi> no one??
[01:51] <gilianima> mcphail: i'm reading about it, iI don't think I really need it, but I'll install it anyway, if it's an improvement, I'll probably be happy later to already have it
[01:52] <bderrly> mcphail, yes it is, but i have a lot of images and i can define a naming convention for them easier if i can see the images  :)
[01:52] <Student> How do I get to root? I need to run "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg".
[01:52] <nalioth> !sudo > Student
[01:52] <tristanmike> Student: use "sudo"
[01:52] <nalioth> Stormx2: we don't use a root account here, please read your private message
[01:52] <increase_> rpedro_: I do that from there and change the res!  but when it reboots gnome it jumps back to original setting!  Do I need to do a full reboot for it to take affect?
[01:52] <mcphail> gilianima: in most cases you won't even notice it
[01:52] <rpedro_> increase_: hmm, it should't ...
[01:53] <baconbacon> Masticore: maybe a "system restore" is not the only solution, could you tell the problem
[01:53] <nalioth> welcome Stormx2 you are my first tab completion victim of the day
[01:53] <nalioth> Student: we don't use a root account here, please read your private message
[01:53] <rpedro_> increase_: you using the binary drivers for your graphics card ?
[01:53] <drew> Where is libGL.so.1 supposed to be located?
[01:53] <increase_> rpedro_: no idea!  how cna I know that?
[01:54] <MehAdult> drew: Hang on
[01:54] <MehAdult> libgl1-mesa: usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[01:54] <MehAdult> libgl1-mesa-glide3: usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[01:54] <MehAdult> libgl1-mesa-swrast: usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[01:55] <bpasdar> Does anyone know where evolution saves the preferences info in ubuntu?
[01:55] <rpedro_> increase_: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <MehAdult> nvidia-glx: usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[01:55] <drew> weird. That's where I have it located on my system, but any program I attempt to run says it's not there :x
[01:55] <MehAdult> nvidia-glx-legacy: usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[01:55] <tritium> bpasdar: in gconf
[01:55] <MehAdult> xorg-driver-fglrx: usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[01:55] <bpasdar> I have tried .evolution .gconf and .gnome2_private
[01:55] <MehAdult> drew: Hope that gives you some ideas.
[01:55] <baconbacon> bpasdar: gconf-editor
[01:55] <tritium> MehAdult: please stop pasting.  Use pastebin next time, please
[01:55] <MehAdult> drew: BTW I used apt-file search you have to download it
[01:56] <MehAdult> tritium: Sorry
[01:56] <mcphail> bpasdar: most GNOME apps keep their preferences in gconf. It is a bit like Windows registry
[01:56] <tritium> MehAdult: no problem :)
[01:56] <MehAdult> tritium: Didn't think of pastebin lol
[01:56] <tritium> MehAdult: okay.  Next time ;)
[01:56] <kiamon> hellp ppl ...anyones knows if there is a freeware Virtual machine to create a .vmx file for my system ?
[01:56] <nicholaspaul> Anyone good with Blackbox?
[01:56] <mboso> anyone recgonize the wallpaper in the screenshot? i've seen it a few places, but have no idea what it is. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaichan/174657976/#comment72157594181577254
[01:56] <Girth> Hello
[01:56] <nicholaspaul> - I need to populate the menu...
[01:57] <bpasdar> thanks all -- when I rename the file in gconf/apps to evolution.bak the preferences still apear
[01:57] <dli> nicholaspaul, try menumaker
[01:57] <increase_> rpedro_: I changed xorg.conf to read exactly like it does in breezy!  but it wont stay at the resoution, it keeps juping back to original!  any ideas why?  do I need to do a full reboot before it changes?
[01:57] <Masticore> baconbacon: I just want to have backup on my system when im about to try install xgl
[01:57] <rpedro_> increase_: just a sugestion, maybe you should run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' , so you get a fresh xorg.conf, this is a good idea when having gfx problems and you don't know what else to do
[01:57] <tritium> bpasdar: stuff is also saved in your ~/.evolution directory
[01:57] <nicholaspaul> dli: can i just apt-get install menumaker?
[01:57] <mcphail> kiamon: there is a howto somewhere to do this with qemu. The other option would be vmware-server
[01:57] <bpasdar> tritium renamed that as well.
[01:57] <kiamon> mcphail: Thankz alot mate
[01:58] <keldon> mboso: that's the default ubuntu 6.06 wallpaper
[01:58] <rpedro_> increase_: that might be what's giving issues, better run that command I gave to create a new xorg.conf
[01:58] <tritium> bpasdar: after deleting all that, you need to "evolution --force-shutdown"
[01:58] <tritium> (evolution data server continues to run)
[01:58] <increase_> rpedro_: what command did you give me?
[01:58] <baconbacon> !backup > Masticore
[01:58] <rpedro_> increase_: and what graphics card do you have ?
[01:59] <DaReD3ViL> can someone help me with the install of TOR ?
[01:59] <mboso> keldon: I just installed 6.06 a few days ago, It came with a diff wallpaper
[01:59] <mboso> keldon: any idea what its called?
[01:59] <rpedro_> increase_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:59] <increase_> rpedro_: once I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, what do I tell it?
[01:59] <keldon> mboso: let me check, i'm pretty sure it's installed by default
[01:59] <pjfc> Does anyone know how I install new hardware?
[01:59] <increase_> rpedro_: an old video card
[01:59] <mcphail> increase_: just answer the questions truthfully and honsetly!
[01:59] <bpasdar> Tritium: Just tried that -- still no go.  Where on earth is it getting the data from ?!#$
[01:59] <rpedro_> increase_: you need to tell which driver to use , what resolutions to allow, plus some other optiongs
[02:00] <pjfc> I want to get UMAX scanner (parallel port) working
[02:00] <Masticore> baconbacon: okey
[02:00] <mournahan> how do you get the stats on your desktop?
[02:00] <keldon> mboso: Dawn of Ubuntu, you must have it if you select desktop background util
[02:00] <rpedro_> increase_: you don't know the model ?
[02:00] <nicholaspaul> pjfc: have you tried just plugging it in and seeing if it work?
[02:00] <nicholaspaul> (works)
[02:00] <keldon> mournahan: gdesklets for gnome, or superkaramba for kde
[02:00] <mournahan> thanks
[02:00] <pjfc> nicholaspaul: yes
[02:00] <rpedro_> increase_: pci, agp?
[02:01] <nicholaspaul> pjfc: aah. What are you installing?
[02:01] <bpasdar> BTW -- I installed evolution plugins and exchange today.  It added a whole bunch of Calendars that I want to delete.  But they just persist.
[02:01] <rpedro_> increase_: nvm
[02:01] <pjfc> nicholaspaul: an old UMAX 610P parallel port scanner
[02:01] <DaReD3ViL> can anyone help me with TOR, i get errors when i try and start it, they are [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You mus t fix this to proceed. - please help
[02:01] <drew> How do you save an X session from terminal?
[02:01] <tritium> bpasdar: run evolution --force-shutdown before you delete the directory and gconf settings
[02:01] <pjfc> nicholaspaul: it is supported by xsane/sane
[02:01] <rpedro_> increase_: run this in a vt >> lspci | grep vga
[02:01] <jvai> hey why is the root file system checked on boot time every 30 mounts? for integrity?
[02:01] <joli> drew: startx
[02:02] <nicholaspaul> pjfc: Sorry, i'm not familiar with parallel port gear.
[02:02] <rpedro_> increase_: that should tell what gfx card you have
[02:02] <mcphail> jvai: disable it. It is a legacy of ext2
[02:02] <pjfc> nicholaspaul: thanks anyway
[02:02] <baconbacon> Masticore: sorry but the ubotu links on backup are not very useful
[02:02] <liquidscythe_> WHAT IS THE BEST BIT TORRENT CLIENT FOR LINUX
[02:02] <tritium> liquidscythe_: please don't yell
[02:03] <nicholaspaul> liquidscythe_: sshhhh
[02:03] <tritium> !best > liquidscythe_
[02:03] <DaReD3ViL> no one will help me :(
[02:03] <jvai> oooo! but, i think have ext2 still, i'm on hoary
[02:03] <rpedro_> increase_: rather, make that 'lspci | grep *VGA*' uppercase
[02:03] <MehAdult> DaReD3ViL: Sounds like permissions
[02:03] <mcphail> jvai: i suspect you will be using ext3
[02:03] <liquidscythe_> whats the best bit torrent client for linux
[02:03] <MehAdult> Maybe tor has it's own user
[02:03] <tritium> !best
[02:03] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:04] <DaReD3ViL> how do i set it to that user
[02:04] <liquidscythe_> ok
[02:04] <liquidscythe_> whast the fastest bit torrent client for linux
[02:04] <MehAdult> DaReD3ViL: The CLI command is chown
[02:04] <MehAdult> man chown
[02:04] <keldon> liquidscythe: honestly, why are you using caps so much, every single question i've seen from you the last couple of hours was in caps?
[02:04] <jvai> ok, how do i disable it?
[02:04] <MehAdult> And also ls -l
[02:04] <Renan_s2> liquidscythe, I like Azureus
[02:04] <baconbacon> Masticore: You could always roll up your own backup. Me for instance i backup my /home/bacon and some other configs in /etc to a samba share
[02:04] <MehAdult> DaReD3ViL: Make sure the permissions are right first.
[02:04] <tritium> MehAdult: what problem are you finding with tor?
[02:04] <DaReD3ViL> premissions are 7777
[02:04] <mcphail> jvai: check you _aren't_ using ext2 first
[02:05] <MehAdult> tritium: Not me, DaReD3ViL
[02:05] <jvai> ok hold..
[02:05] <DarkerAudit> got an issue with firestarter... I've got it set to allow connections form other machines on the local network, but it doesn't allow me to use most samba tools to connect to it unless I disable firestarter
[02:05] <mboso> keldon: cool, i'll check. thanks
[02:05] <tritium> DarkerAudit: what about the postmissions?  ;)
[02:05] <bpasdar> tritium: I must be retarded!  Did that and still the same. evolution --force-shutdown | deleted .evolution | deleted .gconf/apps/evolution -- NO GO, Still the same
[02:05] <DaReD3ViL> [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You mus t fix this to proceed.
[02:05] <DaReD3ViL> when i start it
[02:05] <MehAdult> Do you know your user's UID or what owns 1000?
[02:05] <jvai> mcphail, youre right< system moniters says ext3
[02:05] <tritium> DaReD3ViL: how are you starting it, and why are you doing it manually?
[02:06] <baconbacon> bpasdar: can you private message me your issue again?
[02:06] <DarkerAudit> tritium: hrm???
[02:06] <tritium> bpasdar: really?  odd...
[02:06] <DaReD3ViL> it hasnt started already
[02:06] <MehAdult> DaReD3ViL: cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000
[02:06] <tritium> DarkerAudit: sorry, wrong person, and a joke at that
[02:06] <mcphail> jvai: sudo tune2fs -c 0 /whatever/device/the/filesystem/is
[02:06] <aliendream23> hello:)
[02:06] <tritium> DaReD3ViL: type "id"
[02:07] <aliendream23> I need a little help
[02:07] <MehAdult> !ask
[02:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:07] <Masticore> baconbacon: affirmative
[02:07] <aliendream23> <<[02:07] <DaReD3ViL> uid 1000 is myself called "dared3vil"
[02:07] <aliendream23> ok, I just did my first linux install w/ abuntu yeah!
[02:07] <bpasdar> baconbacon:  I am being blocked.  How do I register?
[02:07] <tritium> DaReD3ViL: how are you starting it, and why are you doing it manually?
[02:08] <MehAdult> I g2g
[02:08] <DaReD3ViL> with terminal
[02:08] <aliendream23> but I am having a problem getting my wmp54g v2 to work
[02:08] <MehAdult> I'll let you handle it tritium
[02:08] <DaReD3ViL> how do i start it regularly?
[02:08] <tritium> DaReD3ViL: you know it starts at boot, right?
[02:08] <DaReD3ViL> it hasnt started yet
[02:08] <DaReD3ViL> lol
[02:08] <DaReD3ViL> tor isnt running
[02:08] <tritium> MehAdult: sorry, you can continue :)
[02:08] <aliendream23> I found a way, but it requires me to have internet access, but without the card working, i have none
[02:08] <DaReD3ViL> ive rebooted also
[02:08] <MehAdult> tritium: I need to leave
[02:08] <meshe> I'm using breeze and i'm trying to find the crontab logs which on the redhat systems i've dealt are in /var/log/cron, that doesn't exist on my ubuntu system
[02:08] <tritium> MehAdult: ok
[02:08] <tehuti> can someone help me get a PCI wifi card to connect?
[02:09] <DaReD3ViL> what card
[02:09] <drew> tehuti, Is it a Linksys WMP54G?
[02:09] <tehuti> drew, no it's an SMC
[02:09] <aliendream23> I got the universe enabled, yippie, but I cannot get the app bcm 43xx fogcutter
[02:09] <tritium> DaReD3ViL: so what happens at boot that it doesn't run?
[02:09] <mcphail> cron has a log?
[02:09] <MehAdult> !bcm54xx
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about bcm54xx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <DaReD3ViL> i have no idea
[02:09] <MehAdult> Err
[02:09] <baconbacon> bpasdar: ?What does it have to do with evolution,
[02:09] <DaReD3ViL> ill reboot again
[02:09] <stian_> stian, you will loose your nick in 15 seconds
[02:09] <DaReD3ViL> br
[02:09] <MehAdult> !bcm43xx
[02:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:09] <DewDude> I'm having a little MySQL help. I installed LAMP when i started my box with a fresh install of ubuntu..and it installed mysql..however, i can't access it, so, after trying things, i decide to reset the password..i go to stop mysql, and i get this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 27 00:04:25 2006
[02:09] <aliendream23> <<[02:09] <tehuti> it's "active" under system->networking->network settings
[02:10] <tritium> !wifi > aliendream23
[02:10] <jvai> can i disable ext2 from the terminl?
[02:10] <tehuti> but no IP
[02:10] <drew> tehuti, try dhclient wlan0
[02:10] <mcphail> jvai: what do you mean, "diable ext2"
[02:10] <tehuti> drew, just type that into the terminal?
[02:10] <mcphail> disable
[02:10] <aliendream23> um, yew wifi...?
[02:10] <aliendream23> yes even
[02:11] <jvai> since i have ext3, u said i should disable it, correct?
[02:11] <inrelief> hey all - i've got a strange problem: my box crashed while loading neverwinter nights, so i gave it a hard reboot - upon rebooting, everything loaded fine, except for X.  it fails loading GDM with the complaint "error opening /dev/wacom".  Now, I don't have a tablet/styles (which I gather is what the error is complaining about).  Has anybody else experienced this?
[02:11] <jvai> lol.. typo, my bad
[02:11] <mcphail> jvai: no, disable filesystem checking with the command i posted above
[02:11] <mcphail> jvai: sudo tune2fs -c 0 /whatever/device/the/filesystem/is
[02:11] <jvai> aaaw!
[02:11] <jvai> ok
[02:11] <jvai> copy n paste
[02:12] <tritium> !enter
[02:12] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:12] <jvai> ty
[02:12] <sethk> inrelief, are you sure this is really the error?
[02:12] <sethk> inrelief, that sounds more like something that may have been there all the time
[02:12] <inrelief> sethk, it was the main complaint i saw, repeated over and over again
[02:12] <mcphail> jvai: copy n paste and change the bit which needs changed
[02:12] <tehuti> getting "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[02:12] <drew> tritium, didn't you ban 'tuesday' for that yesterday?
[02:12] <inrelief> sethk, that's what i was thinking as well.
[02:12] <tritium> drew: no, for other reasons
[02:12] <drew> Why such a strong reaction then and such a weak one now?
[02:12] <sethk> inrelief, but it is doing it continuously?
[02:12] <jvai> ok
[02:12] <drew> No, the ban came before the rude remarks ;)
[02:12] <sethk> inrelief, check the X log, see if there is any more info there
[02:13] <tritium> drew: you didn't even see the rude remarks
[02:13] <inrelief> sethk, in the error log, this was the only error, repeated several times.  i'
[02:13] <soundray> How do you make a USB Ethernet adapter work in Ubuntu? My device is supposedly supported by the asix driver, but even after 'modprobe asix', ifconfig doesn't show a new interface.
[02:13] <inrelief> sethk, oops, i'll give it another shot and look more carfully, one sec.  thx.
[02:13] <drew> tritium, but I did watch my friend log onto the computer and talk to you, and I did see you ban him before his remarks reached anything near a 'rude' level.
[02:13] <tritium> drew: and the remarks you _did_ see came before the ban
[02:13] <tehuti> "iwconfig" gives "eth0: no wireless extensions" does that mean the driver isn't working?
[02:14] <drew> I was standing beside the keyboard that made the remarks I assure you I saw the situation unfold.
[02:14] <drew> tehuti: You seem to be having the same problem I was.
[02:14] <tritium> drew: then refresh your memory
[02:14] <tehuti> drew: did you fix it?
[02:14] <SurfnKid> :( not having any luck
[02:14] <SurfnKid> how can i set a command in rc.local with sudo?
[02:14] <SurfnKid> without it asking me a password
[02:15] <tehuti> I'm just running the liveCD now, if I install might that work?
[02:15] <tehuti> or if wifi doesn't work in the liveCD it won't work with the installation?
[02:15] <tritium> SurfnKid: you don't need the sudo part in it
[02:15] <baconbacon> tehuti: did you try to set it up with the network config tool
[02:15] <SurfnKid> tritium: thats what i thought
[02:15] <hypnox> SurfnKid:  username ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/command
[02:15] <tehuti> baconbacon, where do i find that?
[02:15] <baconbacon> tehuti: system -> admin -> network
[02:15] <drew> tehuti, yes, try 'sudo apt-get install bc43xx-fwcutter'
[02:16] <drew> I was having a problem with my wifi driver
[02:16] <SurfnKid> hypnox: how would it be inserted for example if i need to put  sudo iwconfig bla bla bla
[02:16] <swim> anyone use banshee music app? is there a way to have smart playlist or something automatically create a playlist for all the artists and their albums?
[02:16] <drew> And that fixed it.
[02:16] <longwave> SurfnKid: just put iwconfig bla bla
[02:16] <hbi> im using amarok
[02:16] <hypnox> SurfnKid put that in your /etc/sudoers
[02:16] <tehuti> drew, I'm not connected on my desktop but thinks
[02:16] <longwave> SurfnKid: rc.local runs as root anyway, you don't need sudo
[02:16] <tehuti> I tried iwconfig
[02:16] <tehuti> "iwconfig" gives "eth0: no wireless extensions" does that mean the driver isn't working?
[02:16] <drew> lay a lan line
[02:16] <drew> That's what it meant for me.
[02:17] <SurfnKid> ah
[02:17] <tehuti> under system->admin->networking it says eth0 is active
[02:17] <DewDude> ok..i can't use sudo at all..i get an error about timestamp too far in the future
[02:17] <SurfnKid> well lets see if itll work
[02:17] <drew> There's a command you need to type in order to check if your hardware loaded properly. I forget the command, otherwise I'd try to assist you further...
[02:17] <baconbacon> tehuti: would it be eth1 then ? just asking to be suure
[02:17] <tehuti> and I don't have a LAN line, only a wifi connection
[02:17] <tritium> drew: your friend went far beyond simply "rude" on the inappropriate scale
[02:17] <baconbacon> drew, theres modprobe or lspci
[02:17] <drew> It's neither of these.
[02:17] <tehuti> it says "Wireless connection The interface ath0 is active"
[02:18] <quiet> tehuti: it just means the interface is active... turned on... awaiting a connection.
[02:18] <SurfnKid> all im trying to do is set  wireless key open on the interfaces file, but whats the correct syntax, or if there is a wireless how to on /etc/network/interfaces start up commands.. other than man interfaces or man wireless or iwconfig
[02:18] <tehuti> yeah it's ath0 not eth0 for some reason
[02:18] <Kyral> ath0 is used for Atheros based cards
[02:18] <quiet> ^^
[02:18] <Kyral> Ath(eros) :P
[02:18] <tritium> SurfnKid: a wep key?  That should go in /etc/network/wireless, unless you're using network-manager
[02:18] <SurfnKid> otherwise i have to run a VT  and set essid, managed, key then open, then dhclient
[02:19] <longwave> SurfnKid: read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for the syntax
[02:19] <SurfnKid> tritium: well network manager doesnt accept it, i have to set it manually by input
[02:19] <drew> tritium, no offence, but I personally think your actions were quite naziish myself.
[02:19] <SurfnKid> longwave: ok cool
[02:19] <ardchoille> drew: With all due respect, I feel that the ban conversation should move to another channel or PM.
[02:19] <tehuti> I just changed the "default gateway device" to ath0 maybe that'll work?
[02:19] <drew> ardchoille, or die alltogether.
[02:19] <tritium> drew: don't even start that.  Do you have any idea what it means to call someone a Nazi?  Stop it this very moment.
[02:19] <swim> anyone use banshee music app? is there a way to have smart playlist or something automatically create a playlist for all the artists and their albums?
[02:20] <hbi> fuckj man amaroK keeps fucking on me
[02:20] <baconbacon> haha another one is going down
[02:20] <drew> tehuti, have you recently upgraded from breezy to dapper by any chance?
[02:20] <SurfnKid> !language
[02:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:20] <tritium> language, hbi!
[02:20] <hbi> oops
[02:20] <hbi> i thought i was in the hak5 irc
[02:20] <tehuti> drew, I'm running the Dapper Live CD on a P3 Win98 box
[02:20] <hbi> forgot i was in this lol
[02:20] <hbi> ill rephrase
[02:20] <hbi> amarok keeps crashing :(
[02:20] <tritium> drew: consider that a first warning
[02:20] <soundray> Any suggestions on my Ethernet problem? I've got a USB network adapter that should be supported, but no luck so far.
[02:21] <drew> tritium, I've already dropped the conversation, and preceded my comment with 'no offence'. Calm down please.
[02:21] <RadiantFire> soundray: what does ifconfig -a show?
[02:21] <SurfnKid> my taskbar and shortcuts seem to have frozen too
[02:21] <SurfnKid> brb
[02:21] <tritium> drop it
[02:21] <longwave> soundray: is there any output in dmesg regarding the adapter?
[02:21] <inrelief> sethk, okay, so, it's just a reapeating error about /dev/wacom (which makes sense, 'cause i don't have one), but then, the final line is "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' "
[02:21] <drew> Last word.
[02:21] <soundray> RadiantFire: only sit0, eth0 and lo
[02:21] <tritium> Offense already taken, drew.  That was inappropriate.
[02:21] <RadiantFire> soundray: and eth0 doesn't work?
[02:21] <soundray> longwave: yes, all hal related
[02:22] <tehuti> I typed "iwconfig" and it gives a bunch of info for ath0 but no IP
[02:22] <drew> tritium, Please drop it before you feel the need to ban me as well.
[02:22] <tehuti> getting a signal
[02:22] <soundray> RadiantFire: eth0 is the motherboard one
[02:22] <dli> inrelief, then, it's a fatal error, " apt-get install ubuntu-desktop "
[02:22] <soundray> RadiantFire: I was expecting usb0 to come up
[02:22] <minerale> Hi, I've setup for my default web browser to be firefox, but I've must have messed something up since I'm unable to load urls. Ie, when I click a link firefox opens up but the url does not
[02:22] <RadiantFire> soundray: not a wireless, its treated differently, try grepping for uhci or ehci in dmesg
[02:22] <inrelief> dli, i'll give it a go...any ideasas to what could have caused this? this box has been stable as hell from the get go...outside of the occasional neverwinter crash
[02:22] <longwave> tehuti: try "dhclient ath0"
[02:22] <azcazandco> mcphail: I reckon I am gonna hit the sack man
[02:22] <RadiantFire> that will show you if there are any controller activited
[02:23] <Anon839> i've installed dapper six or seven times and when ever it gets to booting the kernel it just stops
[02:23] <soundray> RadiantFire: it's not wireless...
[02:23] <tritium> drew: 2nd warning.  Drop it entirely now.
[02:23] <Anon839> can someone help
[02:23] <longwave> tehuti: you need to either set a static IP on ath0 or run a dhcp server
[02:23] <drew> dmesg!! that's the one.... tehuti: try "dmesg" in console...
[02:23] <longwave> sorry, client
[02:23] <minerale> Could someoen do me a favour: go to "preferred applications" and read me the string that's for the default web browser ?
[02:23] <dli> inrelief, for the wacom thing, try " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[02:23] <drew> tritium, what are you talking about? I'm done. Please stop highlighting to me.
[02:23] <mcphail> azcazandco: leave the box backing up. it'll be finished by morning!
[02:23] <Anon839> is there something i'm doing wrong
[02:23] <RadiantFire> soundray: yeah, sorry mistype, but try grepping for uhci or ehci in dmesg  that will tell you if there is nay usb controller activity from the device
[02:23] <soundray> RadiantFire: it loads as a high speed USB device all right
[02:23] <baconbacon> minerale: firefox %s
[02:23] <azcazandco> mcphail: thanks again for the help
[02:23] <Anon839> it boots the live cd fine
[02:23] <hbi> which would people recommend amoroK or Juk?
[02:23] <mcphail> azcazandco: np
[02:23] <drew> tehuti, you're looking for a failure or error
[02:23] <soundray> RadiantFire: I see it in lsusb output, too
[02:24] <azcazandco> will no doubt see you about
[02:24] <Anon839> but when i install it doesnt work
[02:24] <RadiantFire> soundray: ok, are there any other kernel modules that are related to that model that you have?
[02:24] <baconbacon> hbi: amarok roks
[02:24] <tritium> drew: I'm talking about your smart-ass comments
[02:24] <minerale> thank you very much baconbacon , that %s made the difference
[02:24] <tehuti> drew I typed dmesg and got a ton of text
[02:24] <inrelief> dli, when i try to 'install ubuntu-desktop' it doesn't do anything, as its already installed?
[02:24] <drew> tehuti, scroll through it and look for any errors
[02:24] <baconbacon> when it woks
[02:24] <hbi> its seems abit unstable
[02:24] <ardchoille> I can see I'm going to have to drag out my ignore list *sigh*
[02:24] <soundray> RadiantFire: only asix (and I think that depends on usbnet). Tried loading both manually, no luck
[02:24] <azcazandco> mcphail: how ironic... it just finished
[02:24] <drew> tritium, I'm not making any. Please stop highlighting me, it's quite obvious you're tyring to extend this into a ban as you did before.
[02:24] <mcphail> :)
[02:25] <RadiantFire> soundray: what any kind of error, or did the modules go in instantly with no output?
[02:25] <tehuti> mysteriosly the word "error" appears not once
[02:25] <keldon> yup, indeed he was
[02:25] <dli> inrelief, try, " apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base ", and the dpkg-reconfigure
[02:25] <soundray> RadiantFire: the latter, nothing in dmesg or syslog
[02:25] <RadiantFire> soundray: ok, stupid question, have you tried rebooting and seeing if coldplug picks it up?
[02:26] <linuxcrazy> hey, what's the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[02:26] <azcazandco> mcphail: do i just grab the source?
[02:26] <Renan_s2> !offtopic
[02:26] <baconbacon> a ban w/o a kick ^^
[02:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:26] <soundray> RadiantFire: no, I haven't. Have you any other suggestion before I try that?
[02:26] <linuxcrazy> ubuntu-offtopic does not work
[02:26] <inrelief> dli, *sigh*, so how can i make that work via sudo?  it complains it's an invalid operation
[02:26] <mcphail> azcazandco: no, the binary is fine
[02:26] <RadiantFire> soundray: I'm out of great ideas, the one thing I would say is make sure that your chipset hasn't changed strangly or anything
[02:27] <RadiantFire> soundray: sometimes vendors switch up chipsets inside the same product for no reason at all
[02:27] <dli> inrelief, try: sudo -i
[02:27] <tritium> linuxcrazy: you need the # in front
[02:27] <tehuti> I typed "sudo dhclient ath0" and it's doing a DHCPDISCOVER... ending with "No DHCPOFFERS received." No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[02:27] <linuxcrazy> lol, nevermind, it does work
[02:27] <hbi> does anyone recommend any torrent apps with encryption?
[02:27] <mcphail> azcazandco: got to go, but let me know how you get on
[02:27] <Anon839> whats another good linux distro
[02:27] <Anon839> for people new to linux
[02:27] <dli> inrelief, if sudo causes difficulties, enable root passwd
[02:27] <DewDude> i can't use MySQL..nor do the instructions in the wiki that explain how to reset the password work..can someone help me?
[02:27] <m3talc0re> how do i get the dvd plugin on here?
[02:27] <longwave> tehuti: what are you trying to connect this wireless card to?
[02:27] <tritium> !dvd > m3talc0re
[02:27] <soundray> RadiantFire: yeah, especially Linksys is known for such behaviour. But they usually attach a version number at least - this one doesn't have one.
[02:27] <tehuti> longwave: a router
[02:28] <inrelief> dli, still complains about an invalied operation
[02:28] <azcazandco> mcphail: how do i install a binary?
[02:28] <RadiantFire> soundray: I dunno, what model card is it again?
[02:28] <joli> i'm trying to get aiglx to work with a radeon 9200, after doing a fresh install of ubuntu, folowed all the stuff from here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068.
[02:28] <joli> But when compiz starts gdm restarts. I dont have the compiz-aiglx.desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart instead i have another file caled  compiz.desktop. when i remove this file i can start the gnome session but without compiz.
[02:28] <ev01ution> Anon839:look on distrowatch
[02:28] <dli> inrelief, apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base
[02:28] <ev01ution> ...top 5 are all good newbie distros
[02:28] <drbreen> suse is not 1
[02:28] <soundray> RadiantFire: Linksys USB200M
[02:28] <inrelief> dli, thanks :P
[02:28] <tehuti> I got a lease on my laptop but no dice for the desktop
[02:28] <mcphail> azcazandco: you don't need to install. just call the binary from the command line
[02:29] <ardchoille> Is it possible to remove the Reboot and Shutdown buttons from the logout dialog?
[02:29] <RadiantFire> soundray: and usbnet didn't work at all?
[02:29] <longwave> tehuti: does iwconfig show the correct ESSID?
[02:29] <azcazandco> hm...  can I browse to it and double click?
[02:29] <drbreen> ardchoille: yeah
[02:29] <soundray> RadiantFire: it loaded, but didn't make a difference to the ifconfig -a output
[02:29] <drbreen> ardchoille: you can lockdown
[02:29] <tehuti> longwave: it shows ESSID:""
[02:29] <longwave> tehuti: your wireless network name should be there - do you have a WEP key or anything to configure?
[02:30] <mcphail> azcazandco: no, start from command line. you will need to pass options, but I can't remember the syntax offhand. And you will need to sudo
[02:30] <azcazandco> mcphail: get some sleep man, I will figure it out, you have helped plenty
[02:30] <RadiantFire> soundray: i dunno, the only thing you might able to do do is pass a parameter to the module when you load it to see if you can manually specifiy the mapping to the device
[02:30] <ScreaminIke> can i get somehelp running aircrack?
[02:30] <tehuti> longwave: no WEP
[02:30] <RadiantFire> soundray: other than that I'm out of ideas
[02:30] <RadiantFire> sorry
[02:30] <azcazandco> :D
[02:30] <mcphail> azcazandco: goodnight
[02:30] <longwave> tehuti: try "iwlist scan"
[02:30] <soundray> RadiantFire: not to worry, I appreciate your input.
[02:30] <inrelief> dli, hotdamn.  thanks a bunch -- any ideas what caused this headache?
[02:30] <ardchoille> drbreen: How would I go about learning how to do that? Is there an app or tutorial that teaches how to "lockdown"?
[02:30] <azcazandco> mcphail: night
[02:30] <soundray> RadiantFire: I have another box with Debian and a 2.6.16 kernel, will try there.
[02:31] <RadiantFire> soundray: mkay
[02:31] <dli> inrelief, no idea :( but dapper seems to be buggy
[02:31] <khaled_> can anyone one tell me why when i use 'make' instruction in the terminal it tells me command not found ???
[02:31] <Anon839> what should i get if i want to install debian
[02:31] <RadiantFire> dapper has gotten a lil more buggy since the release
[02:31] <RadiantFire> on of the kernel updates roke my suspend
[02:31] <soundray> !tell khaled_ about b-e
[02:31] <RadiantFire> i liked it fine on release day
[02:31] <tehuti> longwave: "ath0 Scan completed : Cell 01 Address: 00:0f:3D:5E:14:F8 ESSID:"Default"... Encryption key: on
[02:31] <dli> inrelief, again, there are limited right ways, unlimited ways wrong
[02:31] <tehuti> ??
[02:32] <inrelief> dli, so it seems.  well, much obliged for the help troubleshooting.   i'm used to seeing the nvidia driver complain of differences between nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx on gentoo, but this was a new one for me ;p
[02:32] <drbreen> ardchoille: i am sorry i could only find "disable command line" / "disbale printing" and teh like
[02:32] <increase_> how can I play mp3 audio and DVD movies in Dapper please?
[02:32] <dli> inrelief, if you use nvidia, still headache ahead in ubuntu
[02:32] <Anon839> should i get the netinst or the business card iso if i want to install debian?
[02:32] <ardchoille> drbreen: ok, well my other users can't use sudo or su, so I have taken care of that.
[02:32] <soundray> Something the matter with ubotu?
[02:33] <longwave> tehuti: is the Address the same as the Access Point in "iwconfig"?
[02:33] <increase_> !mp3
[02:33] <soundray> khaled_: you need to install the build-essential package
[02:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:33] <Renan_s2> !codecs
[02:33] <inrelief> dli, i can't wait.  hahah.
[02:33] <khaled_> ok
[02:33] <drbreen> ardchoille: what do you want exactly - when they cannot shutdown in my experience there is not button like shutdon...
[02:33] <Grue_Lovah> I'm trying to print a PDF.  I tried sudo apt-get install cups-pdf but something didn't work
[02:33] <SystematicDub> Hey all. Has anyone on here dual booted Windoze and Ubuntu with Windoze on an internal drive and Ubuntu on an external drive?
[02:34] <drbreen> ardchoille: i have some small ltsp inet cafe and the users cannot shut down the server (of course). but there is no shutdown option in the logout confirm dialog.
[02:34] <tengil> is there something good for ubuntu to monitor temperatures and such?
[02:34] <filemover> ive done some networking wit windows and kubuntu if it helps
[02:34] <Grue_Lovah> systematicdub: nyet. I haven't tried this, yet.
[02:34] <drbreen> tengil: there is a sensors poackage
[02:34] <soundray> Grue_Lovah: to print a PDF, you don't need cups-pdf. Just a working printer setup and a PDF viewer, where you can select File-Print
[02:35] <khaled_> soudray: thznx
[02:35] <soundray> Grue_Lovah: cups-pdf is for creating PDFs
[02:35] <tengil> drbreen: is it the sonsord package?
[02:35] <filemover> if anyone wants to fix the issue of passwords on a windows network i have the answer
[02:35] <Grue_Lovah> right - sorry. that's what I want. to create a pdf :-)
[02:35] <aliendream23> I am trying to get my wmp54g v2 woring and when i iwconfig i get no wlan?
[02:35] <tengil> oh thats a loggin daemon. maybe its lm-sensors then?
[02:36] <ardchoille> drbreen: I just logged out on this box, logged into one of the user accounts and there are Reboot and Shutdown buttons on their logout dialogs. I'd like to remove those buttons so the other users can't click them by mistake.
[02:36] <RadiantFire> Grue_Lovah: you sholdn't need cups-pdf, I think support for that is already available without that package
[02:36] <tehuti> longwave, there are 2 or 3 networks at my location but it seems to find only the encrypted one.
[02:36] <RadiantFire> and that package borke my attempt to upgrade ot dapper originally
[02:36] <soundray> Grue_Lovah: have you got your printer working?
[02:36] <RadiantFire> oopsis
[02:36] <SystematicDub> Grue_Lovah: Hmmmmm do you mean you are going too?
[02:36] <Grue_Lovah> radiantfire soundray: thank you for your help.  I don't have a printer. I just want to print a file to a pdf, and then upload that file to my website
[02:37] <longwave> tengil: lm-sensors does motherboard temps, hddtemp for hard drive temps and sensors-applet to put them in a gnome panel
[02:37] <jcsteele> with wine, i am running various windows applications - and everything seems to work fine except for the language of the languages appears to not be english...is this a setting i am missing somewhere?
[02:37] <soundray> Grue_Lovah: I see. What kind of file is it?
[02:37] <RadiantFire> Grue_Lovah: the default gnome print dialogs often have to pdf option
[02:37] <drbreen> ardchoille: understandable - but i assume they dont have the right lo logout, so what happens when they accidentally click one of those buttons ?
[02:37] <RadiantFire> Grue_Lovah: and OpenOffice has it internally imiplemented
[02:37] <ardchoille> drbreen: Well, I logged out of the user account and back into my account, so it still works
[02:37] <longwave> tehuti: "iwlist scan" should show you all networks in range.. i dont know why it can't see yours, sorry..
[02:37] <Grue_Lovah> soundray: it's a webpage.  if open office has it, I'll just copy and paste
[02:37] <jvai> make the file thru o.office, then save it as a pdf
[02:37] <drbreen> tengil: lm-sensors is The Right Thing.
[02:38] <tengil> thanks
[02:38] <Grue_Lovah> soundray jvai radiantfire: thankyouthankyouthankyou
[02:38] <soundray> Grue_Lovah: yeah, in OpenOffice, you just select File-Export or the toolbar button
[02:38] <jvai> lol
[02:38] <ardchoille> drbreen: Oh, I misunderstood, sorry. I'll try using Reboot or Shurdown from that account and see what happens. Thanks for the idea :)
[02:39] <tehuti> I think the card works but the connection's too weak. my laptop finds an open connection here but this PCI card only finds the stronger, encrypted one.
[02:39] <jvai> clever workaround for acrobat maker1
[02:39] <tehuti> "iwlist scan" only finds one network?
[02:40] <ardchoille> biab
[02:41] <DarkAudit> with firestarter running, I get operation not permitted when trying to run mdns-scan
[02:41] <tehuti> "iwlist scan" on my laptop shows a single network that's different from the one my unconnected desktop shows
[02:42] <tehuti> can anyone explain this phenomenon?
[02:42] <r2pr> boa noite galera
[02:43] <SurfnKid> I got it
[02:43] <SurfnKid> wireless-keymode open
[02:43] <SurfnKid> =] 
[02:43] <SurfnKid> thanks guys
[02:44] <longwave> tehuti: are the networks using the same wireless channel? maybe you can change yours to get a better connection
[02:44] <joli> hi
[02:45] <tehuti> longwave: how can I manually configure for the network I'm getting on my laptop?
[02:45] <joli> i'm trying to get aiglx to work with a radeon 9200, after doing a fresh install of ubuntu, folowed all the stuff from here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068.
[02:45] <SurfnKid> thanks longwave, tritium gotta run
[02:45] <jvai> hey uall, the 2.6 kernel doesnt suffer from core dumps right? is that a thing of the past?
[02:45] <joli> But when compiz starts gdm restarts. I dont have the compiz-aiglx.desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart instead i have another file caled  compiz.desktop. when i remove this file i can start the gnome session but without compiz
[02:45] <SurfnKid> chek yall
[02:45] <tritium> see you, SurfnKid :)
[02:45] <soundray> RadiantFire: interesting, the Debian box loads asix automatically and brings up an interface called ng
[02:45] <mjr> jvai, core dumps are generally an application issue, not a kernel issue
[02:45] <joli> any ideas about what contains the  compiz-aiglx.desktop file? what else could be preventing this from working?
[02:45] <jvai> oo
[02:46] <beefsprocket> anyone got a logitech mx600 working with proper buttons? checked forums, evdev howo etc. no love..., tried lmctl and lomoco too
[02:46] <baconbacon> jvai, did you mean kernel panic
[02:46] <jvai> app crash = core dump?
[02:46] <longwave> tehuti: try "iwconfig ath0 ap 00:11:22:33:44:55" where the last bit is the MAC address of the access point you want
[02:46] <mjr> jvai, core dump is a result of an app crash
[02:46] <longwave> tehuti: though beware it will may fall back to the encrypted one if it can't find the one you specify
[02:46] <unstablesob> Ok, I've read /usr/share/doc/bugzilla/README.Debian.gz regarding customizing bugzilla templates, but when I customized variables.none.tmp and re-ran checksetup.pl, it doesn't show the changes I made.
[02:47] <jvai> noo, just didnt know what exactly what it was, firfox crashes on me @ times, so that's a core dump
[02:47] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[02:47] <DewDude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18973 <--any suggestions?
[02:48] <KnowledgEngi> I'm tring to login in a site but::
[02:48] <KnowledgEngi> You must have cookies enabled to access your account.
[02:48] <KnowledgEngi> how can i do that?
[02:49] <increase_> whats easyubuntu?
[02:50] <tehuti> longwave: "Error fir wireless request "Set AP Address" (8B14) " SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted.
[02:50] <soundray> DewDude: what do you want to know?
[02:50] <skavenge> is there a way to install ut2004 from the HD, switching disks isnt working for me at all the installer never recognizes a disk change
[02:50] <NoPoL> hi
[02:50] <DewDude> ok, basically, all those commands i got from the wiki on resetting the mysql password..as you can see from the pastebin...they don't work
[02:51] <NoPoL> somebody can help me?
[02:51] <DewDude> my basic goal is setting the password so i can use it
[02:51] <tehuti> anyone with any ideas?
[02:51] <increase_> where is my Breezy firefox bookmarks located so I can import it into Dapper?
[02:51] <longwave> DewDude: read http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[02:51] <beefsprocket> increase_: should be in the same place in your home dir
[02:52] <spades> increase_ try in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/
[02:52] <longwave> DewDude: the very last section where they use UPDATE mysql.user instead of SET PASSWORD should work for you
[02:52] <DewDude> ....oh boy
[02:52] <increase_> spades: cheers
[02:52] <DewDude> more generic docs
[02:52] <DewDude> i'll...read that..later
[02:52] <aestetix> Quick question: does Ubuntu come with xorgconfig by default? neither whereis (nor sudo whereis) found it, apt-cache and apt-get didn't find it... wondering where else to look before I get my own binary.
[02:52] <NoPoL> i can't see urned dvd's
[02:52] <longwave> ok here's the short version
[02:52] <DewDude> i suddenly no longer care about trying to get sql working
[02:52] <NoPoL> i can't see burned dvd's
[02:52] <DewDude> no
[02:52] <joli> tehuti: well... try this , iwconfig ath0 mode managed ap 00:11:22:33:44:55
[02:52] <DewDude> you don't have to
[02:52] <DewDude> i can read it
[02:52] <longwave> uh ok
[02:52] <DewDude> i just..i didn't want to spend 3 hours tonight messing with this
[02:52] <beefsprocket> aestetix: you can issue this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:52] <aliendream23> is there anyone here who can help me with this wireless card issue?
[02:52] <DewDude> i wanted to fix it, and work on the website
[02:53] <NoPoL> i can't see burned dvd's only originals why?
[02:53] <soundray> DewDude: what wiki page did you look at? It obviously needs updating...
[02:53] <aestetix> Gotcha
[02:53] <aliendream23> I keep running into "operation not permitted" and the like
[02:53] <joli> i mean sudo iwconfig ath0 mode managed ap 00:11:22:33:44:55
[02:53] <DewDude> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[02:53] <DewDude> THAT one
[02:53] <DewDude> it obviously is of no help
[02:53] <tehuti> joli, I did it with sudo and no message, back to bash prompt
[02:53] <DewDude> which is what really got me..angry
[02:53] <tehuti> but still no connection?
[02:54] <joli> try lowering the rate
[02:54] <joli> iwconfig rate 1M
[02:54] <DewDude> but anyway..i'm heading outside
[02:54] <soundray> DewDude: hold on
[02:54] <aliendream23> ok
[02:54] <aliendream23> well
[02:54] <soundray> DewDude: try the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP (scroll down to mysql) -- that should work
[02:54] <NoPoL> any idea about my question?
[02:54] <DewDude> i tried those too
[02:54] <DewDude> same error
[02:55] <aliendream23> ...back to being clueless and ful of dead ends...
[02:55] <DewDude> i can't get into the thing because i don't have a password
[02:55] <DewDude> or i don't know what it is
[02:55] <beefsprocket> DewDude: mysql has no root password by default...
[02:55] <tehuti> joli, it's a 108 card with a 54 router
[02:55] <jvai> alien, is your wifi card an externl 1?
[02:56] <DewDude> it rejects with no password
[02:56] <epidemik> when i boot ubntu 6.06 it says the PCIMA (or something like that) fails, i didnt do it before i ugraded. Whats happening?
[02:56] <DewDude> like, i tried the stuff on the page soundray suggested first, and just got errors
[02:56] <CyDrive> is there anyway to run a command when my computer starts up each time?
[02:56] <DewDude> epidemik, do you have a laptop?
[02:56] <beefsprocket> DewDude: have you tried su - and then runningsimply "mysql" ?
[02:56] <aliendream23> appernetly my wireless is coming up as eth0 instead of wlan0 and i dont know if this is the problem or not or how to change this, can I get any direction?
[02:56] <tehuti> "unrecognized rwireless request "1M"
[02:56] <soundray> CyDrive: add it to /etc/rc.local
[02:56] <epidemik> dewdude: no, old pc
[02:56] <DewDude> that's another problem..i'm getting timestamp errors when trying to use sudo
[02:56] <RandomDude15> whats the name of a program that can burn AVI files to dvds?
[02:56] <NoPoL> i can't see burned dvd's only originals why?
[02:57] <DewDude> so i have to log in to a root terminal
[02:57] <beefsprocket> DewDude: yeah
[02:57] <epidemik> dewdude: no, old pc
[02:57] <beefsprocket> DewDude: and then run just mysql, no options
[02:57] <DewDude> epidemik, then you don't have PCMCIA..and that's why it failed
[02:57] <jvai> no, on my thinkpad 600x, the orinoco card came up as eth0, & the ethernet cable came up as eth1, they were mixed up, but worked
[02:57] <epidemik> dewdude: lol, can i disable it cause it slows starup way down
[02:58] <jvai> on this t40, i dl'ed ubuntu thru eth1
[02:58] <tehuti> joli what's the exact syntax of the command?
[02:58] <joli> tehuti:  sudo iwconfig eth0 rate 1M
[02:58] <mnguyen> I am having a problem while installing ubuntu. I tried setting up a custom partitioning scheme but it freezes during installation. If i use the automatic partition scheme, it proceeds just fine. Anybody know why>?
[02:58] <CyDrive> so int etc/rc,local i just add my command "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"
[02:58] <jvai> sometimes on the 600x, i just took the card out & back in again for it to work
[02:58] <DewDude> beefsprocket: you want me to stop it and then restart the daemon
[02:58] <joli> eth0 the name of the interface
[02:58] <increase_> I have 800x600 resolution available, yet when I chose it, X reboots but it jumps back to 1024x768!  any ideas why?
[02:58] <beefsprocket> DewDude: you could, though it shouldn't matter
[02:58] <Igaaa> hello everybody, would someone know where wine's personnal settings is located ?
[02:58] <epidemik> can i disable it cause it slows starup way down?
[02:58] <DewDude> well, i booted it with -skip_grant_tables
[02:59] <Igaaa> settings' file
[02:59] <DewDude> cuz i bet if i stop mysqld..and start it nomrally..it won't let me run mysql
[02:59] <tehuti> joli, I typed just that, got no error, but I'm still not connected for some reason
[02:59] <DewDude> right now it will
[02:59] <soundray> CyDrive: no, if you want a module loaded each time, you just add it to /etc/modules
[02:59] <epidemik> dewdude: lol, can i disable it cause it slows starup way down
[02:59] <CyDrive> oooh thanks
[02:59] <epidemik> can i disable it cause it slows starup way down?
[02:59] <DewDude> epidemik, uhhhh...i don't know.
[02:59] <mnguyen> Anybody else have the problem of having the installer halt when using a custom partitioning scheme?
[02:59] <Renan_s2> Igaaa, ~/.wine
[02:59] <tehuti> is there a chance it'll work if I install? I'm just on the live CD
[03:00] <joli> tehuti: try getting closer to the ap then
[03:00] <Renan_s2> Igaaa, you can use regedit
[03:00] <epidemik> dewdude, does yours do it too?
[03:00] <longwave> DewDude: keep --skip-grant-tables running, connect as root, then execute UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('newpwd') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[03:00] <DewDude> no.
[03:00] <beefsprocket> DewDude: this is just a guess, but you could also try copying a password from /etc/shadow for your user to the mysql line
[03:00] <epidemik> okay
[03:00] <DewDude> i run a server
[03:00] <CyDrive> do i just add the module name?
[03:00] <beefsprocket> DewDude: that might actually work well
[03:00] <skavenge> anyone installed ut2004? i cant get it installed, it asks me to put disk two in, i cant unmount to put it in, and if i force unmount it the installer doesnt recognize disk two when its mounted .. ?
[03:00] <tanath> can someone help me with this?
[03:00] <mrcoyote> bn all
[03:00] <soundray> CyDrive: yes
[03:00] <Igaaa> Renan_s2, I didn't find a "config" file into ~/.wine
[03:00] <CyDrive> ok thank you
[03:00] <tanath> gah, can't paste...
[03:01] <DewDude> epidemik, i don't even know if it comes up during boot..my box sits in the corner of the room with power and lan
[03:01] <Renan_s2> Igaaa, you must run 'winecfg'
[03:01] <beefsprocket> skavenge: can you copy the files off each cd into the proper folders?
[03:01] <DewDude> Query OK 0 rows affected
[03:01] <tanath> how do you paste from another console?
[03:01] <skavenge> beefsprocket: what folders though? how do i know where its installing everything to?
[03:01] <DewDude> looks like it worked
[03:01] <beefsprocket> DewDude: ?
[03:01] <beefsprocket> nice
[03:01] <tanath> i have gpm to select the text...
[03:01] <soundray> tanath: lengthy errors/output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please.
[03:01] <NoPoL> i can't see burned dvd's only originals why?
[03:01] <longwave> DewDude: now quit mysqld and restart without --skip-grant-tables, connect as root with password "newpwd"
[03:01] <tanath> soundray: it's not
[03:01] <tanath> soundray: 2 lines
[03:02] <Igaaa> Renan_s2, thanks a lot, there's no text file however ?!
[03:02] <Renan_s2> Igaaa, no
[03:02] <beefsprocket> skavenge: I'd say check the folder on the cd, copy it directly to the same folder in whereever ut2004 installs
[03:02] <Igaaa> O, thks
[03:02] <Igaaa> ok
[03:02] <Renan_s2> they dumped the text file-based configuration a few versions ago
[03:02] <Igaaa> ok
[03:02] <stian_> anyone know about a tool to extract "xbox iso's" ?
[03:02] <tanath> so how do i copy & paste from another console?
[03:02] <DewDude> ta-da
[03:02] <DewDude> longwave, danke danke danke danke
[03:03] <tanath> soundray: i can't get it there anyway if i can't copy & paste...
[03:03] <longwave> no problem :)
[03:03] <DewDude> so, i gotta ask...your nick....radio term?
[03:03] <longwave> no, just a random word i liked
[03:03] <bl3ssing> how to install a archive in my computer without any or repository or adept?
[03:03] <beefsprocket> DewDude: actually you can set the passowrd using "sudo passwd mysql"
[03:03] <DewDude> hahaha
[03:03] <soundray> tanath: describe the problem in rough terms
[03:03] <DewDude> beefsprocket, umm...that would set the password for the user mysql
[03:03] <longwave> beefsprocket: that will set the password for the unix user mysql, which is unrelated to the set of mysql users
[03:04] <DewDude> not for the mysql server itself
[03:04] <tanath> soundray: in console 1 i can see an error. i select the text, press ctrl+alt+f7 to come back here, and middle-click to paste, and nothing happens
[03:04] <beefsprocket> got it
[03:04] <soundray> tanath: you don't seriously expect that to work, do you?
[03:04] <soundray> tanath: tell us what the error is about instead.
[03:04] <tanath> soundray: it lets me paste from 1 to 2...
[03:04] <tanath> soundray: why not?
[03:05] <DewDude> ooh..one more thing..does anyone know if bogoMIPS was broken in recent PPC build of kernel? I'm getting a BogoMIPS rating of 49.97 for a 400mhz PPC G3
[03:05] <tanath> soundray: can't get fglrx working
[03:05] <soundray> tanath: because X and the text console do not share a clipboard
[03:05] <tanath> soundray: it'd be easier to just copy & paste
[03:05] <tanath> blah
[03:05] <soundray> tanath: that wouldn't be welcome here.
[03:05] <Igaaa> Renan_s2, don't you know how I could modify the "UseDGA" setting ? I need to do so, it sounds like it could allow me playing to warcraft3
[03:05] <Renan_s2> Igaaa, I don't :/
[03:06] <painkiler> hey guys
[03:06] <painkiler> how do I get rid of compiz?
[03:06] <bl3ssing> how to install a archive in my computer without any or repository or adept?
[03:06] <painkiler> or even everything I installed to do it
[03:06] <tanath> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[03:06] <tanath> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will
[03:06] <tanath> not work
[03:06] <beefsprocket> bl3ssing: dpkg -i archivename.deb
[03:06] <Igaaa> Renan_s2, thanks, I'll try to find it
[03:06] <painkiler> it really messed up my system
[03:06] <longwave> painkiler: how did you install it? :)
[03:06] <painkiler> the guide on the forums
[03:06] <painkiler> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[03:06] <soundray> tanath: okay, I told you not to do this. Find someone else to help you.
[03:06] <tanath> fglrx says OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:07] <painkiler> It just craped up my themes and stuff
[03:07] <tanath> soundray: huh?
[03:07] <chrisbudden14> is there a way of changing the functionality of the show desktop button
[03:07] <painkiler> Can I just restore my machine to what it was this morining?
[03:07] <soundray> chrisbudden14: no, but you can replace it with another applet or launcher
[03:07] <tanath> soundray: you said long error messages shouldn't be pasted in here. 1 - i know that. 2 - i didn't paste a long error message. nothing wrong with 2 lines
[03:08] <beefsprocket> painkiler: reverse what you did this morning and it will be fine
[03:08] <increase_> how can I change the Ubuntu Logo on startup?
[03:08] <chrisbudden14> soundray, i would like it to use the compiz way of showing the desktop
[03:08] <tanath> *fglrxinfo says OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:08] <soundray> chrisbudden14: is there a command for that?
[03:08] <painkiler> how do I reverse it?
[03:08] <soundray> tanath: stop pasting error messages
[03:08] <tanath> i can't seem to get it using fglrx. can anyone help?
[03:09] <epidemik> how do you force quit?
[03:09] <epidemik> wine has frozen
[03:09] <beefsprocket> painkiler: check that thread oyu posted, work backwards
[03:09] <tanath> soundray: huh? i only pasted one
[03:09] <chrisbudden14> well its linked to a keybinding, so if i could get a script to send <super>d it would work
[03:09] <tanath> er, 2. sorry
[03:09] <soundray> tanath: that's the mistake
[03:09] <beefsprocket> painkiler: but do everything without rebooting and once it is back to the way it was, then reboot
[03:09] <epidemik> how do you force quit?
[03:09] <beefsprocket> painkiler: also make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <tanath> soundray: i did nothing wrong
[03:10] <bl3ssing> how can I get into the konsole as an admin cause I want to install a file
[03:10] <bl3ssing> ?
[03:10] <painkiler> hmmm
[03:10] <tailsfan> Ouestion, Will Ubuntu DVDs work with CD-RW Drives?
[03:10] <painkiler> also, grub can't find my windows partitoin
[03:10] <soundray> tanath: you didn't follow the very clear instructions in the /topic, nor the ones I gave you, not to paste in here.
[03:10] <tristanmike> !bl3ssing > sudo
[03:10] <tanath> soundray: pasting is harmless unless it floods
[03:10] <lumgwada> can anyone tell me if following this ... http://www.timhardy.net/wordpress/2006/07/01/patching-eclipse-32-for-debian-31/ ... is likely to work for ubuntu (breezy)?
[03:11] <painkiler> I set up a boot section manualy, and it can't find it
[03:11] <stian_> tailsfan: will a gas car run on disel?
[03:11] <painkiler> the hdd is on /dev/hda1
[03:11] <tristanmike> !tell bl3ssing about sudo
[03:11] <epidemik> how do you force quit? anyone?
[03:11] <painkiler> and I do (hd0,0)
[03:11] <tanath> soundray: 1 or 2 lines is perfectly reasonable
[03:11] <Caprisun> System Moniter
[03:11] <Caprisun> to force quit an application
[03:11] <beefsprocket> painkiler: you can use tab completion in grub, when you boot hit esc with grub, then open a command line, use root (hd0,(hit tab here)
[03:11] <tailsfan> no I guess
[03:12] <tanath> soundray: do you work for ubuntu?
[03:12] <soundray> tanath: if you think you should force your interpretations of rules onto every one else, then go ahead. If someone else doesn't mind, that's fine. But don't expect anything from me.
[03:12] <Caprisun> i have a question concerning permissions in ubuntu
[03:12] <painkiler> ok thanks
[03:12] <Caprisun> how can i allow myself to write to my startup drive without using sudo in the command line
[03:12] <tanath> soundray: rules are always open to interpretation
[03:12] <Caprisun> i can always use sudo but its annoying
[03:13] <tanath> soundray: technically interpretation is unavoidable
[03:13] <longwave> Caprisun: what are you trying to do? having to use sudo protects you from messing up the system
[03:13] <Caprisun> well longwave atm i cant write to anywhere in my startupdriv eexcept my home folder
[03:13] <longwave> well, that's the idea
[03:13] <soundray> tanath: this discussion is a) offtopic and b) over, as far as I am concerned
[03:13] <tanath> soundray: well, you're the only one who said anything about it. i didn't flood. no harm came of it. it's necessary to explain my problem.
[03:13] <longwave> you shouldn't need to write outside your home folder really
[03:13] <Caprisun> well
[03:13] <Caprisun> when i do proftpd.conf
[03:13] <Caprisun> i wanna be able to just drag it
[03:14] <Caprisun> im not really a nub or anything
[03:14] <tanath> soundray: do you work for ubuntu?
[03:14] <Caprisun> i just wanna make it a little more convenient
[03:14] <ardchoille> Caprisun: If I broke into you user account, I couldn't write to anything except your home folder either.. which means I could do rm -rf /usr
[03:14] <beefsprocket> Caprisun: how about using the nautilus root scripts?
[03:14] <hbi> does any1 know how to configure kismet in ubuntu
[03:14] <mnguyen> My UBUNTU installer freezes while trying to partition my system. I'm running a ECS NFORCE3 motherboard with a 160GB SATA hard drive. Is there any known fix for this?
[03:14] <beefsprocket> hbi: which wireless card?
[03:14] <crimsun> mnguyen: are you using the live cd's graphical installer?
[03:14] <hbi> senao 2511 CD
[03:14] <mupet_poo> what was the other common ubuntu room?
[03:14] <hbi> ext
[03:14] <ardchoille> *couldn't
[03:14] <mupet_poo> channel*
[03:15] <mnguyen> crimsun: yes
[03:15] <Caprisun> heh
[03:15] <crimsun> mnguyen: have you tried the alternate (text-based) installer?
[03:15] <beefsprocket> hbi: edit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[03:15] <Caprisun> well i guess you make a good point about security
[03:15] <Caprisun> ill stick to using sudo
[03:15] <Caprisun> thanks
[03:15] <beefsprocket> hbi: where is says source=, put in orinoco,eth1(or wlan0 or whichever the intereface is),orinoco
[03:15] <longwave> Caprisun: you can always "sudo chmod o+w /file/name" if you want anyone to be able to write to it
[03:15] <mnguyen> crimsun: no ill give that a shot
[03:15] <ardchoille> Caprisun: It may be annoying, but it is a good security practice, IMHO :)
[03:15] <Jentsu> okay, so I had some problems installing ubuntu the first time. I was told that I should try redownloading, burning, and running it all from a new CD. I redownloaded, from another server just to make sure, and burning it again, and then I loaded it. I ran the thing to check the CD for errors and found none. I tried running it normally, but it said that X was not configured right and asked something about launching to diagnose. Instead of chec
[03:15] <Jentsu> king that, i tried restarting, and just on a hunch, checked the CD again, and this time it found a problem with "./caspar/(don'tremember).squashfs". It will not run normally, but runs just fine on safe mode. I'm actually using safe mode now.
[03:15] <longwave> but really, that's a bad idea - stick to sudo where you can
[03:15] <Caprisun> ahh
[03:15] <Caprisun> thanks
[03:15] <beefsprocket> hbi: if that doesn';t work try orinoco_cs
[03:15] <Caprisun> i will
[03:15] <Renan_s2> Anybody here knows how to open a .BIN CD image in Linux?
[03:16] <Caprisun> its not really that big an isue
[03:16] <gezim> What package do the compile tools come in?
[03:16] <tengil> umm i cant seem to get my swedish keyboard to work right. anyone here have swedish settings keyboard. the alt gr key wont work so i cant make the at sign in an email adress
[03:16] <bytefu> does anyone know how I can create a sub-subdomain within a dns zone file? like projectname.beta.domainname.com?
[03:16] <Caprisun> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:16] <beefsprocket> gezim: build-essential is what you want
[03:16] <Caprisun> that will install what you need
[03:16] <longwave> bytefu: you don't have to do anything special, just put the name in, i think
[03:16] <Caprisun> heh
[03:16] <mnguyen> caprisun: do i have to download a seperate CD for the text-based installer?
[03:16] <Caprisun> there is such a CD
[03:16] <K^Holtz> how do i find my local ip using ubuntu?
[03:16] <Caprisun> i forgot what its called though
[03:17] <soundray> K^Holtz: with ifconfig
[03:17] <bytefu> longwave, do i have to specify the first subdomain? the beta part? so like beta IN A <ipaddr> and then make another entry for the projectname.beta?
[03:17] <longwave> tengil: is the correct keyboard selected in system > preferences > keyboard?
[03:17] <ardchoille> mnguyen: Fro what I hear, the Desktop CD installer has some issues and those who are in the know say to use the Alternate CD, it has a text-based instller
[03:17] <Caprisun> anyone have thier shutdown buttons dissapear?
[03:17] <Caprisun> go into login window
[03:17] <K^Holtz> soundray: thanks
[03:17] <Caprisun> and check where it says show actions
[03:17] <Caprisun> that will fix it
[03:17] <longwave> bytefu: no, i dont think so, though it's a while since i've done that sort of configuration
[03:17] <Caprisun> my friend just reinstalled thinking that he messed up the OS
[03:17] <hbi> beefsprocket, i cant find where i need to edit in kismet.conf
[03:17] <Caprisun> and then i realized i had the same problem
[03:18] <Caprisun> that will fix it
[03:18] <ScreaminIke> can i get some help with the ati radeon mobility 9000 driver? i can't set it any higher than 1024x768, but the default in other os's is 1400x1080
[03:18] <ardchoille> Caprisun: I have been trying to get rid of the Shurdown and Reboot buttons, thanks
[03:18] <longwave> bytefu: just do the projectname.beta IN A 127.0.0.1 or whatever
[03:18] <Caprisun> no problem
[03:18] <K^Holtz> Anyone have any idea why an Azurous tooltip would just get stuck in the bottom right corner of my screen? the Hide button will not work
[03:18] <Caprisun> did it work?
[03:18] <Caprisun> i LOST them
[03:18] <Caprisun> and thats how i got it back
[03:18] <ardchoille> checking
[03:18] <soundray> ScreaminIke: there are wiki instructions -- watch out for ubotu:
[03:18] <soundray> !tell ScreaminIke about fixres
[03:18] <tritium> !enter > Caprisun
[03:18] <beefsprocket> hbi: search for source in the file
[03:19] <ardchoille> Caprisun: Yes, it worked, but I think that will also hide the "options" menu on the gdm screen
[03:19] <Caprisun> bye guys , thanks for the help
[03:19] <ardchoille> Which is a good thing too for me at least
[03:19] <Jentsu> okay, so I had some problems installing ubuntu the first time. I was told that I should try redownloading, burning, and running it all from a new CD. I redownloaded, from another server just to make sure, and burning it again, and then I loaded it. I ran the thing to check the CD for errors and found none. I tried running it normally, but it said that X was not configured right and asked something about launching to diagnose. Instead of chec
[03:19] <Jentsu> king that, i tried restarting, and just on a hunch, checked the CD again, and this time it found a problem with "./caspar/(don'tremember).squashfs". It will not run normally, but runs just fine on safe mode. I'm actually using safe mode now.
[03:19] <Caprisun> it will ard, but my problem was that they pulled a Houdini on me , and thats how i got them back
[03:20] <ardchoille> !repeat > Jentsu
[03:20] <soundray> Jentsu: instead of reposting, you should consider asking a question
[03:20] <ardchoille> Caprisun: Cool :)
[03:20] <ryanakca> reprepro gives me this error: "gpgme gave error: No Passphrase". What's wrong?
[03:20] <ardchoille> !info sbackup
[03:20] <ubotu> sbackup: Simple Backup Suite for desktop use. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 340 kB
[03:20] <hbi> beefsprocket, im still not finding it im not finding anywhere where it states a certain card
[03:20] <Jentsu> Okay... What do I do about that?
[03:21] <GlassCasket> How can I make it so as soon as I insert my alternate CD, it automatically goes in my sources.lkist?
[03:21] <beefsprocket> hbi: that's because it is waiting for you to put your in :)
[03:21] <tanath> can someone have a look at my xorg.conf file and see if there's anything wrong with it?
[03:21] <miranda82> hello, i puted a buddy icon, into a gaim contact, and i don't know how to erase it..
[03:21] <hbi> i c
[03:21] <hbi> YOU MUST CHANGE THIS TO BE THE SOURCE YOU WANT TO USE
[03:21] <hbi> hehe
[03:21] <tanath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18977
[03:21] <hbi> lol
[03:21] <hbi> i shud of read before i asked
[03:22] <tengil> longwave: i tried with the generic 104 and 105-key international pc
[03:22] <hbi> ah well its half 2 in mornin im sleepy lol but i just wanna get this sorted
[03:22] <tengil> as mine aint included
[03:22] <ardchoille> hbi: Is it a vendetta now? lol
[03:22] <dlaib> i dont know how to change the resolution of the screen ,it only let me set  at 8000x600 anybody can help me?
[03:23] <ardchoille> !fixres > dlaib
[03:23] <beefsprocket> hbi: I think I'm wrong about the orinoco thing, could be hostap or prism
[03:23] <hbi> hmm
[03:23] <beefsprocket> hbi:  which chipset does your card use?
[03:23] <hbi> ill check i saw a readme before
[03:23] <hbi> and i saw my card
[03:23] <GlassCasket> How can I make it so as soon as I insert my alternate CD, it automatically goes in my sources.lkist?
[03:23] <hbi> i think its realtech
[03:23] <hbi> or whatever
[03:23] <beefsprocket> hbi you can do lspci I think
[03:23] <longwave> tengil: you have "Sweden" added and selected under the Layouts list as well?
[03:23] <miranda82> hello, i puted a buddy icon, into a gaim contact, and i don't know how to erase it.. anyone can help me
[03:23] <tengil> longwave: yeah i do
[03:24] <Jentsu> Can anyone help? It'd be really nice to know how to fix *whatever* is wrong...
[03:24] <GlassCasket> Because I keep trying to isntall ndisgtk, but I keep missing dependencies. :(
[03:24] <}btorch{> hello
[03:24] <longwave> tengil: i have 105 key int'l keyboard selected with UK layout and i can a cent symbol with alt-gr+c and various other symbols on other letters
[03:24] <ryanakca> "sudo reprepro -Vb /etc/reprepro includedeb edgy /var/cache/pbuilder/result/typespeed_0.5.1-1_i386.deb" gives me this error: "gpgme gave error: No Passphrase". What's wrong?
[03:24] <longwave> *i can make a cent symbol, that should be
[03:24] <Leeiv> what icons / wallpaper are these? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1744243597010709892
[03:24] <}btorch{> hey I have a box that built myself and it has been working fine for about 8 months now
[03:25] <longwave> in fact alt-gr+q makes the @ symbol
[03:25] <fabioval> you have a commercial support contract with Ubuntu/Canonical, this will void such support
[03:25] <miranda82> hello, i puted a buddy icon, into a gaim contact, and i don't know how to erase it.. anyone can help me
[03:25] <fabioval> hello, i have 945gnt intel board, i having some problems whith it, anybody can help ?
[03:25] <}btorch{> today when i got back home the box seemed to be up but no dislplay signal so I thought something was wrong with the video card
[03:25] <godtvisken> I installed the normal distrobution of Ubuntu Dapper Drake. How can I migrate to using Xfce?
[03:25] <beefsprocket> hbi: you want to look here http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml under section 12
[03:25] <}btorch{> I changed the card but still nothing I get no bios startup
[03:25] <GlassCasket> How can I add a CD to my repository?
[03:26] <Jentsu> Can anyone help me? =\
[03:26] <}btorch{> is it possible for the AMD chip to have gone bad and the bios won't boot up because of that
[03:26] <tristanmike> godtvisken: sudo apt-get install xubuntu
[03:26] <longwave> godtvisken: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:26] <tristanmike> godtvisken: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:26] <}btorch{> It's not possible to get into the bios with out a chip ?
[03:27] <hbi> it says i dont have permission to save the file
[03:27] <tanath> can anyone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18978
[03:27] <tengil> longwave: i noticed now that i cant write our special characters either with shift. it worked earlier in console
[03:27] <Renan_[off] > }btorch{, without a chip you can't even boot
[03:27] <longwave> }btorch{: it could be the cpu, motherboard or power supply if it won't boot to bios
[03:27] <godtvisken> longwave, tristanmike: thanks. once i do that how do i choose between xfce and gnome?
[03:27] <Renan_[off] > let alone access the BIOS
[03:27] <gteppel> I installed OpenVPN (tun) on my gateway/router, I have two physical NICs eth0 = internet, eth1 = lan (192.168.1.0/24), tun = 10.8.0.0. I can connect to my openvpn server just fine and if I push the following route: 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 I can view the other clients in my lan, however if I modify the server.conf file to use push redirect-gateway I can't access the internet once I've connected (I can still connect to my lan clients).
[03:27] <tristanmike> godtvisken: do it from the logon screen
[03:27] <hbi> beefsprocket, it says i dont have permission to save it
[03:27] <tanath> (output of dmesg | grep fglrx)
[03:28] <beefsprocket> hbi:  you have to edit as root
[03:28] <}btorch{> longwave, well I thought about the power supply but all lights on the mother board are up and so are all fans
[03:28] <GlassCasket> How can I add a CD to my repository?
[03:28] <mnguyen> Is it possible to resize an ext3 partition?
[03:28] <}btorch{> If i remove the chip the bios won't show up
[03:28] <longwave> }btorch{: cpu or motherboard, then - only way to find out is switch the cpu with another one that fits the board
[03:28] <Jentsu> Does anyone know how to help fix whatever is wrong with it? Or could you tell me what is wrong and why all the CDs seem to mess up?
[03:28] <hbi> oh so go from root to locate the file?
[03:28] <tanath> can anyone help me get fglrx working, please?
[03:28] <}btorch{> damn
[03:29] <tristanmike> GlassCasket: in Synaptic-Settings-Repositories-Add CD
[03:29] <unstablesob> Ok, I've read /usr/share/doc/bugzilla/README.Debian.gz regarding customizing bugzilla templates, but when I customized variables.none.tmp and re-ran checksetup.pl, it doesn't show the changes I made. I put the variables.none.tmpl into the directory /var/lib/bugzilla/template/en/custom/global
[03:29] <}btorch{> I know that my cpu have been on a 40+ temp
[03:29] <beefsprocket> hbi you can use sudo gedit or sudo vi etc. but yes, as root
[03:29] <longwave> }btorch{: is the system speaker connected? if it beeps, sometimes you can figure it out from the number of beeps it makes
[03:29] <}btorch{> longwave, that's what I was waiting for but I get no beeps
[03:29] <godtvisken> tristanmike: thanks
[03:29] <tanath> mnguyen: try gparted
[03:30] <tristanmike> godtvisken: anytime :D
[03:30] <GlassCasket> tristanmike: Thank you
[03:30] <}btorch{> longwave, speakers are on
[03:30] <tengil> shouldnt ctrl+alt+1 or ctrl+alt+3 or something let me get to a console windows?
[03:30] <hbi> says permission denied
[03:30] <tristanmike> GlassCasket: anytime :D
[03:30] <longwave> }btorch{: hrm, it's still either cpu or motherboard then, either could be broken i am afraid
[03:30] <tanath> tengil: no, F1, etc
[03:30] <hbi> ill dl gedit
[03:30] <tengil> tanath: sorry i ment that. it just doenst work for me
[03:30] <longwave> }btorch{: you can try swapping ram sticks but that probably won't make any difference
[03:30] <GlassCasket> And could anyone help me get my wireless up and running please? I have ndiswrapper wrapper all configured, but can't figure out how to use my wep key. :(
[03:30] <tristanmike> hbi: gedit is included by default
[03:30] <hbi> oh wait ive got it
[03:30] <hbi> lol
[03:31] <tengil> tanath: nothing at all happens when i hit ctrl-alt+F1 or F3 or any other F
[03:31] <hbi> how do i get to it?
[03:31] <tanath> tengil: well, yes, ctrl+alt+F1 should take you to a console
[03:31] <}btorch{> longwave, true I hope AMD holds up for their 3 year warranty
[03:31] <hbi> how do i get to gedit tristanmike
[03:31] <ryanakca> "sudo reprepro -Vb /etc/reprepro includedeb edgy /var/cache/pbuilder/result/typespeed_0.5.1-1_i386.deb" gives me this error: "gpgme gave error: No Passphrase". What's wrong?
[03:32] <tengil> tanath: and whne it doesnt do anything there is nothing i can really do about it?
[03:32] <Jentsu> Does anyone know what's wrong and how to fix it?
[03:32] <hbi> oh wait
[03:32] <hbi> ive been using gedit
[03:32] <tanath> tengil: i don't know... sorry
[03:32] <hbi> otherwise how else wud i open the .txt file
[03:32] <tanath> tengil: have you tried killing x?
[03:33] <tanath> tengil: (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[03:33] <tanath> tengil: that'll kill most programs you're running though
[03:33] <Xenguy> hbi: there are lots of text editors to choose from
[03:33] <tanath> tengil: then startx to get back
[03:33] <tristanmike> hbi: Applications->Accessories->Text Editor
[03:34] <tristanmike> hbi: or "gedit" from a terminal
[03:34] <hbi> i no but ive been using it
[03:34] <hbi> i must of
[03:34] <hbi> lol
[03:34] <IcemanV9> why is X running by root, NOT user?!?!?
[03:34] <fit4lfe> just installed unrar package but when I try to unrar a file error telling me its not in my path
[03:35] <aestetix> Did you make install?
[03:35] <tanath> can anyone help me get fglrx working, please?
[03:35] <fit4lfe> me make install
[03:35] <tengil> tanath: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x and take me back to x login screen...
[03:35] <hbi> ahhh why wont it save dammit
[03:35] <fit4lfe> I used apt-get install unrar-free
[03:35] <aestetix> Oh.
[03:35] <tanath> tengil: yeh, it should
[03:35] <fit4lfe> how do I put that in my path
[03:35] <longwave> IcemanV9: X needs access to your video hardware so it runs as root
[03:35] <tanath> tengil: but now you may be able to do it
[03:36] <Jentsu> Every time I try burning a ubuntu cd, it will start off reading okay, but won't run normally, and after I try running it, it will read one or two errors. Can anyone try helping with that part at least?
[03:36] <tengil> tanath: yeah i started a failsafe console
[03:36] <Chetwin> How do i change the control center back to it's factory condition in kubuntu???
[03:36] <tanath> tanath: if not, then i don't know
[03:36] <fusionxn1> Hi everyone
[03:36] <RogerBacon> hi
[03:36] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: why did you install that one ?
[03:36] <IcemanV9> longwave: interesting.
[03:36] <fusionxn1> I'm new to Ubuntu / Linux altogether. A program isn't responding how do I close it
[03:36] <jpatota> so i just installed these 2 ntfs drives on my desktop in addidion to my 1 drive i already have ubuntu on...how can i mount the 2 drives read only when they dont show up in /etc/fstab
[03:36] <fit4lfe> which one should I have installed
[03:36] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: "unrar"
[03:37] <hbi> im going to sleep ill do this tmrw
[03:37] <fit4lfe> package doesn';t exist tried it
[03:37] <RogerBacon> for know why mi audio controler / device i do wath ? lspci | grep audio
[03:37] <hbi> l8as people thx for every1s helpo
[03:37] <jpatota> in other words, i have no idea what to call them, ie hda2,3 hdc...
[03:37] <fit4lfe> its under unrar-free now
[03:37] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: do you have the mulitverse/universe ?
[03:37] <fusionxn1> Synaptic Package manager isn't doing anything :(
[03:37] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: I'm on dapper and I have unrar
[03:37] <longwave> jpatota: are they separate drives or just partitions on one drive?
[03:37] <tristanmike> !info unrar
[03:37] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[03:37] <fusionxn1> CLicking X don't close it
[03:37] <fit4lfe> yeah I should
[03:37] <fit4lfe> I uncommented everything
[03:37] <jpatota> longwave: seperate drives
[03:37] <increase_> how can I install flash for firefox?  it says its failed to installl when it tries itself
[03:38] <fusionxn1> increase_ I just installed mine :)
[03:38] <longwave> jpatota: hda is primary master ide, hdb is primary slave ide, hdc is secondary master, hdd is secondary slave
[03:38] <longwave> then the number is the partition number
[03:38] <fusionxn1> I went to adobe.com and downloaded it - double click it and then doublle click flash_installer and click run in termanal
[03:38] <fit4lfe> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:38] <tristanmike> !multiverse > fit4lfe
[03:38] <longwave> the partition number is probably 1 if there is only one partition on each drive, but you can check with fdisk
[03:38] <jpatota> longwave: huh i never knew that
[03:38] <jpatota> longwave: ty
[03:38] <fusionxn1> Need to extract it first
[03:38] <fit4lfe> I should have it let me check
[03:38] <increase_> fusionxn1: how?
[03:39] <tristanmike> !fit4lfe > multiverse
[03:39] <Chetwin> Anyone anyone??? How can I change the look of the kde control center???
[03:39] <increase_> fusionxn1: how you install flash in firefox?
[03:39] <Chetwin> I don't want it to look like osx anymore, I want it to be the regular kde control center
[03:39] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[03:39] <fusionxn1> ANyone help me? I cant close a non responding program
[03:39] <fit4lfe> one sec bro I am looking in the repos
[03:39] <Chetwin> fusionxn1: ctrl alt and escape
[03:39] <increase_> how can I install flash and jajva for firefox?  it says its failed to installl when it tries itself
[03:39] <Chetwin> BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU CLICK WITH THAT
[03:40] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: killall <nameofprogram>
[03:40] <jrib> !flash > increase_
[03:40] <jrib> !java > increase_
[03:40] <fit4lfe> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:40] <fit4lfe> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:40] <fusionxn1> hmm it wont close it
[03:40] <fit4lfe> yep both of them
[03:40] <NickGarvey> what causes this? "dpkg: error processing selinux-policy-default (--configure):"
[03:40] <fusionxn1> Synaptic Package manager wont close
[03:40] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: back-ports ?
[03:40] <Chetwin> Can anyone assist me in returning the kde control center back to it's factory kde look???
[03:40] <jrib> fit4lfe: that is dapper-backports multiverse, you want dapper backports
[03:40] <tristanmike> fit4lfe: who said backports ?
[03:40] <jrib> erm
[03:41] <jrib> dapper multiverse
[03:41] <RogerBacon> hi, how to restart network interface in draper drake : /etc/init.d/network restart do nothing ...
[03:41] <fusionxn1> increase_ download http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[03:41] <longwave> RogerBacon: "ifdown ethX" then "ifup ethX"
[03:41] <RogerBacon> ok
[03:41] <increase_> fusionxn1: ok
[03:41] <RogerBacon> i try hit
[03:41] <InnerF|RE> how do i turn this blasted screensaver off? there are no options in Systems
[03:41] <longwave> RogerBacon: you will need to run them with sudo
[03:42] <fit4lfe> ahh well that makes sense now this is alot different then breezy
[03:42] <fusionxn1> Ahh! It wont close :(
[03:42] <fit4lfe> do you have the link for the multverse repos
[03:42] <fit4lfe> so I can add them
[03:42] <Jentsu> Can someone please help me? Please? I've tried a couple of times of downloading and running the live cd, but neither time does it work except for in safe mode. can anyone help me out?
[03:42] <confused> what am I suppost to do to have like groups/others have access to change files/folders for w/e reason with root password or even without would be nice
[03:42] <fusionxn1> Jentsu can you start it?
[03:42] <tristanmike> Jentsu: do you have some strange hardware ?
[03:43] <}btorch{> longwave, hey you are sure that the the bios bott up cannot be seen without a chip connected ?
[03:43] <mnguyen> For some reason my UBUNTU installation is crashing if i do a custom partitioning scheme... if i use the automatic scheme.. and i want to resize partitions and create new ones later on... would that be possible?
[03:43] <longwave> }btorch{: yes, definitely, the bios is just a small program that runs on the cpu
[03:43] <}btorch{> ok
[03:44] <Jentsu> fusionxnl: Can I start what? I'm running in safe mode right now, if that's what you mean. The normal mode doesn't work because it says there's something wrong with X. Checking the CD before I tried running it found no errors; afterwards it found one.
[03:44] <}btorch{> well hold on the bios is not on the cpu
[03:44] <Jentsu> tristanmike: I don't think I am...
[03:44] <longwave> no, the bios is on the motherboard
[03:44] <longwave> but it needs the cpu to run the bios program
[03:44] <}btorch{> ok
[03:44] <fusionxn1> MIne wouldnt work it kept saying cannot boot harddrive so I redownloaded the ISO and everything worked fine
[03:45] <RogerBacon> tanks :)
[03:45] <RogerBacon> working
[03:45] <IcemanV9> InnerF|RE: sys > pref > gnome-screensaver OR xscreensaver
[03:45] <fusionxn1> WHen using the command killall how can i list the applications - i need ot force one to close
[03:45] <increase_> fusionxn1: what do I need to install to make firefox in Dapper play media webpages?
[03:45] <Tonren> fusionxn1: "top"
[03:45] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: use it's run name
[03:45] <fusionxn1> increase_ do you mean like .avi?
[03:45] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: ie, "killall gedit"
[03:46] <RogerBacon> wath appen with open bios ? its still in developement ?
[03:46] <fusionxn1> tristamike: its the Synaptic package manager so how do i close it
[03:46] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: "killall synaptic"
[03:47] <aun> increase_: install flash, the package is flashplugin-nonfree
[03:47] <fusionxn1> synaptic(8500): Operation not permitted
[03:47] <fusionxn1> synaptic: no process killed
[03:47] <fusionxn1> Wont work :(
[03:47] <fusionxn1> increase_ flash ok?
[03:47] <longwave> try "sudo killall synaptic" to be a bit more forceful :)
[03:47] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: can you add to panel ? there's an app to kill misbehaving windows
[03:48] <mbleigh> i just installed ubuntu on a shuttle sn41g, and it isn't detecting the integrated network card (nforce2)...can anyone help?
[03:48] <InnerF|RE> i dont have either
[03:48] <confused> how do I give root access to like all users (it's only me on this computer)
[03:48] <increase_> auk: ok ty
[03:48] <redcard> confused: Umm.. you don't wanna do that.
[03:48] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: do what longwave suggested
[03:48] <longwave> confused: you don't, just use sudo when you really need root
[03:48] <redcard> Unless you mean adding yourself to the /etc/sudoers file
[03:48] <fusionxn1> Thanks longwave it worked!
[03:48] <InnerF|RE> i'll see if i can get it from synaptic
[03:48] <fusionxn1> ANd others who helped :)
[03:49] <increase_> aun: E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:49] <confused> longwave: I dont wanna use terminal window I wanna be able to change the perm. by right clicking on the file and etc. etc.
[03:49] <IcemanV9> InnerF|RE: use the menu editor to turn it on; are you sure it's installed?
[03:49] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: I was gonna smack ya :P just kidding glad to see you sorted ot
[03:49] <confused> redtech: well I wanna do something :)
[03:49] <redcard> confused: You can.. in your directory
[03:49] <longwave> why do you need to change permissions on files you don't own?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> increase_: enable mulitverse repo
[03:49] <fusionxn1> lol tristamike
[03:49] <InnerF|RE> no, im not sure
[03:49] <InnerF|RE> where is the menu editor
[03:49] <increase_> gnomefreak: its enabled i think
[03:49] <aun> increase_: go to ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper you need to add repositories
[03:50] <Tonren> increase_: Are you on 64bit?
[03:50] <increase_> Tonren: no
[03:50] <confused> because I cant do simple things like changing a certain file or even copying/pasting thanks
[03:50] <tristanmike> InnerF|RE: Applications-Accesories-Alacarte Menu Editor
[03:50] <Tonren> increase_: OK, they're right... add repos
[03:50] <RogerBacon> increase_ : try easyubuntu
[03:50] <Tonren> !easyubuntu
[03:50] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:50] <confused> redtech: nope.. all greyed out.. can only change if im logged in as root probably
[03:50] <gnomefreak> increase_: make sure its multiverse not multiverse backports repos
[03:50] <InnerF|RE> thats not there either
[03:50] <InnerF|RE> lol
[03:50] <tristanmike> InnerF|RE: Dapper ?
[03:50] <InnerF|RE> yes
[03:50] <redcard>  confused: Where are you trying to change the file?
[03:50] <InnerF|RE> but I upgraded from breezy,
[03:51] <InnerF|RE> i found the partition on the dapper cd annoying..
[03:51] <increase_> gnomefreak: I have multiverse and backports selected through Synaptic!  was that wrong?
[03:51] <mbleigh> sigh, and i really thought that ubuntu worked with nforce 2
[03:51] <fusionxn1> Installing wine :)
[03:51] <InnerF|RE> i like the old partition format
[03:51] <tristanmike> InnerF|RE: still.....try "alacarte" from a terminal,
[03:51] <Jentsu> ...so no idea how to help, then, fusionxnl?
[03:51] <fusionxn1> Thanks tristamike
[03:51] <gnomefreak> increase_: yes you need just plan universe multiverse
[03:51] <fusionxn1> How do you play WMA and WMV in ubuntu
[03:51] <confused> redtech: I dont know sometimes one folder and sometimes another.. I remember there was a cmd for terminal to change the access I think it was chmod or w/e
[03:51] <InnerF|RE> its not installed
[03:52] <RogerBacon> increase_ : http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:52] <InnerF|RE> should i get it from synaptic?
[03:52] <fusionxn1> I got VLC :)
[03:52] <gnomefreak> increase_: also make sure you dont have the cdrom repo
[03:52] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: you need the w32codecs
[03:52] <gnomefreak> fusionxn1: w32codecs
[03:52] <fusionxn1> Where i grab em from
[03:52] <fusionxn1> Wine installed :)
[03:52] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[03:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:52] <gnomefreak> fusionxn1: ^^^
[03:52] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[03:53] <unstablesob> Having read /usr/share/doc/bugzilla/README.Debian.gz, I'm having a problem with my templates no being picked up from /var/lib/bugzilla/template/en/custom. Any help?
[03:54] <confused> what is the terminal cmd to change r/w access for files/folders
[03:54] <gnomefreak>    confused chmod
[03:54] <RogerBacon> when i create my owwn iptables what i do to take effect ?
[03:55] <confused> gnomefreak: chmod but how was it? chmod numbers dir? or chmod dir numbers
[03:55] <fusionxn1> tristamike i followed that and i get: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:55] <gnomefreak> cmod numbers dir
[03:55] <fusionxn1> then it says cannot find folder
[03:55] <gnomefreak> confused: i suggest reading man chmod
[03:56] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: the first line with "wget -c http://......"
[03:56] <Jentsu> Does anyone else know why ubuntu wouldn't be working any time I try installing it?
[03:56] <fusionxn1> Anyone else form UK got lightning?
[03:56] <Jentsu> err, running it, rather?
[03:56] <InnerF|RE> alacarte didnt have that option either
[03:56] <Jentsu> except for in safe mode...
[03:56] <confused> I read more then probably a lot of people do when looking for info. but sometimes it gets to you that you cant find a simple answer :\ thanks i'll try and use that info.
[03:56] <RogerBacon> Jentsu : wats wrong ?
[03:56] <fusionxn1> tristamike - i did thta it downloaded ok but then it wont install
[03:56] <m3talc0re> aight
[03:56] <mbleigh> how do i get build-essential gcc-3.4 without an internet connection?
[03:57] <increase_> gnomefreak: ok! ive opened sources.list! whats the line for multiverse?
[03:57] <InnerF|RE> i got gnome-screensaver from synaptic
[03:57] <m3talc0re> i installed the codecs and the other crap from your !playdvd crap or whatever
[03:57] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: do an "ls" in your current directory and see if the file is actually there
[03:57] <m3talc0re> my dvd playing functions still don't work
[03:57] <increase_> m3talc0re: :)
[03:57] <m3talc0re> gxine just keeps crashing and Totem says i don't have the codecs
[03:57] <fusionxn1> tristamike - no it anit there
[03:57] <Jentsu> I downloaded it, burned it to a cd, booted up in it, checked it for errors (found none), tried the default option...doesn't work. something's wrong with X. Next time I tried checking it for errors, it found one.
[03:57] <increase_> aun: ok! ive opened sources.list! whats the line for multiverse?
[03:57] <longwave> fusionxn1: there was lightning here about an hour ago
[03:58] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: check your home directory
[03:58] <fusionxn1> longwave: been goign on for abotu 1 hour here x(
[03:58] <fusionxn1> tristamike its currently on desktop
[03:58] <inheart> hi ,everyone
[03:58] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: "cd ~/Desktop" then run the command
[03:59] <longwave> Jentsu: that sounds a bit weird, try running the memtest option from the CD just in case your RAM is bad
[03:59] <fusionxn1> tristamike its not on the desktop
[03:59] <fusionxn1> i dont know where it went to
[03:59] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: locate w32codecs
[04:00] <increase_> fusionxn1: ive opened sources.list! whats the line for multiverse?
[04:00] <aun> increase_:deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:00] <fusionxn1> tristamike: it went onto a new line and i ran the command still not working
[04:00] <Jentsu> longwave: okay, but when i've tried running memtest after a (later found) bad install, it would never cease, but find nothing wrong... Also, how long -should- running memtest from the CD take?
[04:00] <prophet> what was that player called xine?
[04:01] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: ok, lets do this from the start, in a terminal "cd ~/"
[04:01] <m3talc0re> xine or gxine?
[04:01] <longwave> memtest will run forever, but you should wait until it finishes 1 pass of all the tests
[04:01] <fusionxn1> tristamike i found the problem
[04:01] <fusionxn1> its downloading index.html for osme reason
[04:01] <fusionxn1> some*
[04:01] <m3talc0re> i'm trying to use Totem and/or GXine to play DVD's and neither is working
[04:01] <increase_> aun: cheers!
[04:01] <aun> increase_:remember to run sudo apt-get update after you add the line
[04:01] <archangel_> Hey folks, can anyone help me with macromedia
[04:01] <increase_> aun: im gogn to try easyubuntu
[04:01] <stk_> uh, I'm having a lot of trouble setting up a wireless card.. and now whenever I reboot my loading stops at 'Configuring network interface.' Anyone think they can help me?
[04:01] <archangel_> and my sound
[04:01] <increase_> aun: ok ty
[04:01] <archangel_> whichever is easier
[04:02] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: ok, it doesn't seem to be there...one sec....
[04:02] <fusionxn1> K mate
[04:02] <Jentsu> longwave: ...so how do you get past the memtest if it's installed? that's my whole reason for figuring the first cd was bad...
[04:02] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:02] <longwave> stk_: does it really stop, or does it continue if you leave it (you may need to wait a few minutes)
[04:02] <fusionxn1> k thanks
[04:02] <aun> archangel_:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper scroll down the solturion is here
[04:03] <stk_> longwave, I rebooted about 10 minutes ago and it is still on configuring network interface
[04:03] <fuoco> do drivers/kernel features get backported to dapper?
[04:03] <archangel_> thanx
[04:03] <m3talc0re> DVD HELP
[04:03] <m3talc0re> PLEASE
[04:03] <ardchoille> stk_: Are you using a different kernel than before? Have you changed NIC cards?
[04:03] <m3talc0re> DID THE BS AND STILL DON'T WORK
[04:04] <ardchoille> m3talc0re: Can you turn your caps lock off please?
[04:04] <stk_> ardchoille, everything is the same as when I installed ubuntu
[04:04] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: working now ?
[04:04] <fusionxn1> done :) thanks tristamike - you know your stuff
[04:04] <ardchoille> stk_: Ok, just thought your problem may be one I experienced recently.
[04:04] <m3talc0re> can i get an answer instead of just acting like i've said nothing?
[04:04] <fusionxn1> Is there a way to play DRM protected files yet
[04:04] <verbose> m3talc0re: not with that attitude
[04:05] <KurtKraut> for a SEMPROM AMD 64 bit processor I shoud use linux-image-restricted-modules-amd64-generic or amd64-k8 ?
[04:05] <m3talc0re> well i've been asking and asking, nobodies said shit, no just a minute, we don't know, no nothing
[04:05] <Omega11> ubuntu linux sucks compared to windows xp and if you compare it to windows vistta it is a total peace of shit so upgrade to windows
[04:05] <mbleigh> can you do anything in ubuntu without it detecting your nic card? i want to install the nvnet drivers to try to fix the non-detected nforce 2 nic, but i have no gcc so i can't run make on the binary tools that i need to run the installers
[04:05] <Madpilot> Omega11, stop trolling
[04:05] <fusionxn1> brb
[04:05] <m3talc0re> all i got earlier was one of your  ! commands, i did the crap in the two links i got and still nothing
[04:06] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: drm and linux shouldn't even been in the same sentence :P
[04:06] <aun> m3talcOre: what media player are you using?
[04:06] <Omega11> mbleigh if you were running windows you wouldn't have that problem
[04:06] <fit4lfe> anyone have the repos link for "plf"
[04:06] <Jentsu> tristanmike: ironic you should say that...
[04:06] <fusionxn1> tristamike - why?
[04:06] <m3talc0re> Omega11, i've got WinXP Pro
[04:06] <increase_> does easyubuntu install any spyware etc?
[04:06] <ardchoille> Omega11: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Can you take your complaints somewhere else please?
[04:06] <m3talc0re> most people here are probably dual booting
[04:06] <Madpilot> increase_, no
[04:07] <Omega11> no
[04:07] <m3talc0re> so you're "points" are worthless
[04:07] <Madpilot> Omega11, go hang out in #windows if you like it so much
[04:07] <increase_> Madpilot: ok! well it looks great! makes things easy for beginner as myself
[04:07] <mbleigh> i just got a macbook pro and a small form factor pc that i want to run as a server personally
[04:07] <increase_> Madpilot: how do you know easyubuntu is safe?
[04:07] <tristanmike> touche Jentsu, you got me there
[04:07] <m3talc0re> tritium, you still here?
[04:07] <aun> m3talcOre: what media player are you using?
[04:08] <m3talc0re> i've tried both gxine and totem
[04:08] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: because drm is about locking you down and linux is about setting you free, but this is off topic and I've said them in the same sentence again, so that's enough about it from me in here :P
[04:08] <Madpilot> increase_, because it's opensource, and the developers are very involved in the Ubuntu community
[04:08] <ardchoille> m3talc0re: Did you read the Restricted Formats page?
[04:08] <Jentsu> So, how do I get past the memtest after linux was installed?
[04:08] <m3talc0re> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[04:08] <m3talc0re> i read and did that
[04:08] <fusionxn1> tristamike - i agree but i got some DRM albums :(
[04:08] <m3talc0re> so i should be dvd capable
[04:09] <Madpilot> m3talc0re, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats too
[04:09] <m3talc0re> gimme a second to read it
[04:09] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you, I was looking for that one
[04:09] <ardchoille> m3talc0re: That one helped me get DVD's working in gxine
[04:10] <m3talc0re> yes, read
[04:10] <m3talc0re> pointless read
[04:10] <verbose> is there a better way to see how many files are in a dir tree than find /path |wc -l ?
[04:10] <moneyfirst> just use automatix, it install all the codecs :>
[04:10] <increase_> can I use easyubuntu direct from a new Dapper install? or do I first need to add anything to the Dapper sources.list?
[04:10] <m3talc0re> i installed the codecs and crap to enable dvd playback of encrypted dvds
[04:10] <Madpilot> m3talc0re, read RestrictedFormats again, it does answer most of the questions you seem to have...
[04:11] <increase_> Madpilot: ok!  its just that Seveas didnt approve of it
[04:11] <Seveas> didn't approve what?
[04:11] <ardchoille> m3talc0re: Did you do the part about the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh script?
[04:11] <Madpilot> increase_, try #easyubuntu
[04:11] <increase_> m3talc0re: tried easyubuntu?
[04:11] <Seveas> moneyfirst, automatix breaks your system -- using it is BOT recommended
[04:11] <Jentsu> What happens when the memtest, as run after installing ubuntu, which apparently has to be done when booting before getting to ubuntu, is done? Or does it, too, just keep going? If so, how do I go past it?
[04:11] <aun> m3talcOre: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper read the part for the dvd codecs in gstreamer
[04:11] <increase_> Madpilot: ty
[04:12] <fusionxn1> automatrix breaks your system?
[04:12] <Madpilot> aun, please don't recommend ubuntuguide...
[04:12] <Madpilot> fusionxn1, it can & has
[04:12] <longwave> Jentsu: you don't have to run the memtest - just pick the install option instead
[04:12] <fusionxn1> hasnt on mine
[04:12] <Seveas> maddler, ubuntuguide.org has changed hands and improved
[04:12] <Seveas> Madpilot*
[04:12] <fusionxn1> DAM this storm is kicking in now
[04:12] <longwave> the memtest is just there as a useful tool that you may want to run before installing
[04:12] <Madpilot> Seveas, has it? Cool.
[04:12] <m3talc0re> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#dvd
[04:12] <moneyfirst> Seveas, really? oh I don't know. Could you give the article or links about that? thx
[04:12] <aun> Madpilot: sorry, i just found it helpful when I started
[04:12] <increase_> fusionxn1: hurricane?
[04:13] <Seveas> moneyfirst, read the logs of this channel -- too many people come in here with systems broken by autobreakix
[04:13] <fusionxn1> nah, its england :p
[04:13] <increase_> fusionxn1: hehe
[04:13] <Jentsu> longwave: ...I'm feeling pretty stupid now. So this whole time I thought there was something wrong, and I was just missing one of the options? Note that I don't mean booting from the CD, I mean on my harddrive after doing the install thing.
[04:13] <Senesence> Can rhythmbox play .pls streaming internet radio?
[04:13] <longwave> fusionxn1: that's what i thought, but then it passed pretty quick
[04:14] <Seveas> Senesence, yes
[04:14] <fusionxn1> How do i use the termanal to goto the cdrom
[04:14] <fusionxn1> longwave - its been going on for over an hour now lol
[04:14] <longwave> Jentsu: after the install, when you boot from the hd, you should have a couple of Linux kernel choices and the memtest at the bottom
[04:14] <Seveas> fusionxn1, cd /media/cdrom
[04:14] <moneyfirst> Seveas, I think about that too, because some of its sources are not from repository. But so far my computer run just fine with that. Perhaps just my luck :>
[04:14] <longwave> are you saying you've only got the memtest option in the grub menu?
[04:14] <increase_> Madpilot: who wrote easybuntu?  he is very creative :)
[04:14] <fusionxn1> thanks seveas
[04:14] <lastent> hi
[04:14] <ttyfscker> gosh that was hectic.. but everything works now....
[04:15] <Madpilot> increase_, a small group of people did
[04:15] <lastent> I'm having problems with my hard drive, is there any program like SCANDISK?
[04:15] <m3talc0re> i still can't the damn dvd playback to work
[04:15] <m3talc0re> least you got your crap fixed tty :P
[04:15] <hlabs> can yahoo messenger work with ubuntu
[04:15] <Jentsu> longwave: That, XP, and something that I feel pretty dumb for not actually remembering what it was? yeah, i'm going to reboot and see what that was now. If I don't come back, either my computer exploded, or I found it.
[04:15] <Jentsu> hopefully the second one.
[04:15] <Senesence> I get "internal dataflow error" when I try to play "groovesalad.pls" on somafm. What could be the problem?
[04:16] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: it wasnt an easy job either
[04:16] <m3talc0re> lol
[04:16] <ttyfscker> this ubuntu install is so messed up now it aint even funny
[04:16] <m3talc0re> what'd you do?
[04:16] <ttyfscker> ubuntu might be easy for n00bs but when you gotta build stuff it aint fun at all
[04:16] <lastent> I'm having problems with my hard drive, is there any program like SCANDISK?
[04:16] <ttyfscker> i had to recompile 2.6.17.7 kernel to get vmware modules to load
[04:16] <longwave> lastent: what sort of problems?
[04:16] <ttyfscker> then i had to rebuild the iw2200 driver for my wifi card
[04:17] <fusionxn1> dam
[04:17] <ttyfscker> and had to install the firmware
[04:17] <fusionxn1> Wine says the setup.exe is a bad exe format :(
[04:17] <ttyfscker> took me at least 2 hours ..arghhh
[04:17] <lastent> longware, like there are some damage blocks
[04:17] <m3talc0re> installing new drivers and crap on here is excessively complicated...
[04:17] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: it normally shouldnt be this hectic.
[04:18] <verbose> yeah, that's intel's fault, not ubuntu's
[04:18] <m3talc0re> and video card drivers?
[04:18] <longwave> lastent: there is a "badblocks" command that checks the entire disk, you should read the manpage first though ("man badblocks")
[04:18] <fit4lfe> yeah I got all the repos now so pysched
[04:18] <increase_> Madpilot: well those small group of ppl are vry clever to write easyubuntu!
[04:18] <ttyfscker> but of course i just aint happy with my ctcp version replies saying 2.6.15 when using dapper.. and on 2.6.17 that edgy uses the vmmon module wont load. so i just built the  kernel from scratch
[04:18] <fit4lfe> plf is so cool
[04:18] <lastent> longware thanks
[04:19] <anomalie> hello, can anyone help me with grub 1.5?
[04:19] <ttyfscker> anomalie:: most likely
[04:19] <anomalie> i will query u
[04:19] <m3talc0re> some movie is on about jamie fox trying to get off heroine or something
[04:19] <m3talc0re> boy that brings back some memories..
[04:19] <ttyfscker> anomalie:: that just dont sound right
[04:20] <anomalie> ok
[04:21] <ttyfscker> its aweful quiet in here tonight
[04:21] <anomalie> i want to boot windows form hd0 partition 4 .. grub says error 12  .. at the grubhomepage is no detail to this error written
[04:21] <Senesence> I'm having problems with rythmbox.
[04:21] <Toma-> whats that app for converting avis to dvd?
[04:21] <anomalie> i did checkt the man
[04:21] <Kyral> Never tell me a channel is quiet or else I will make sure its not :P
[04:22] <ttyfscker> anomalie:: do you have it set in menu.lst to boot 0,4?
[04:22] <anomalie> but i doont know the error and a soilution
[04:22] <anomalie> yes
[04:22] <anomalie> mom i will paste this part
[04:22] <increase_> Madpilot: do you know how I can change the dapper ubuntu logon graphic? i did it on breezy, but forget how
[04:22] <ttyfscker> error 12 is all it says?
[04:22] <m3talc0re> had a nice little bomb just dropped on me
[04:22] <fusionxn1> Wont IRC program do people recommend for ubuntu
[04:22] <anomalie> title		Windows
[04:22] <anomalie> rootnoverify		(hd0,4)
[04:22] <anomalie> savedefault
[04:22] <anomalie> makeactive
[04:22] <anomalie> chainloader	+1
[04:22] <anomalie> no device found
[04:23] <whozatmac> increase_ ehich login graphic?
[04:23] <Kyral> Irssi...XChat...Konversation....
[04:23] <Madpilot> increase_, System->Admin->Login Window
[04:23] <Madpilot> anomalie, pastebin next time, please!
[04:23] <Kyral> Basically the one you like :P
[04:23] <anomalie> at the homepage is written: this error cames when the programm dont know the error or something like this
[04:23] <Senesence> Gaim
[04:23] <anomalie> pastebin?
[04:23] <Kyral> ...except that
[04:23] <ttyfscker> anomalie:: show me what sudo fdisk -l says in a query dont paste it in the chan
[04:23] <michaelbleigh> what is the default CC env variable in ubuntu?
[04:23] <anomalie> ok
[04:23] <m3talc0re> my ex moved in with some retard
[04:23] <increase_> Madpilot: no! i mean the first Ubuntu logo as Ubuntu loads
[04:23] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: gcc-4.0
[04:23] <Kyral> michaelbleigh: echo ${CC} :P
[04:23] <longwave> anomalie: grub error 12 seems to mean that (hd0,4) is not a valid partition
[04:23] <m3talc0re> she's only known this idiot for not even 3 months
[04:24] <m3talc0re> and they're talking about getting married
[04:24] <Madpilot> increase_, the one with the brown scrolling text below it?
[04:24] <increase_> whozatmac: the first Ubuntu logo as Ubuntu loads, before the login logo
[04:24] <Kyral> m3talc0re: this is incredibly offtopic :P
[04:24] <ttyfscker> haha
[04:24] <Madpilot> m3talc0re, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please
[04:24] <m3talc0re> they fight at least twice a week and the tard can't even hold a job
[04:24] <ttyfscker> no on-topic conversations are taken place
[04:24] <whozatmac> increase_ I *think* the image file is called by grub
[04:24] <ttyfscker> gotta keep the chan from being dead some how
[04:24] <Senesence> Can someone help me out with my rythmbox problems?
[04:24] <Kyral> cat m3talc0re > /dev/offtopic
[04:24] <increase_> Madpilot: yes!  i changed it in breezy, but forget the webpage that had the steps
[04:24] <whozatmac> increase_: happy hacking :)
[04:25] <Madpilot> increase_, I'm not sure, to be honest.
[04:25] <m3talc0re> i'm jumpin' on xp
[04:25] <Kyral> There is a difference between offtopic convos and ranting because you got your ass dumped for some loser :P
[04:25] <m3talc0re> not that simple kyral
[04:25] <Kyral> Thats what I inferred from his rant
[04:25] <david_> does anyone know how vnc works?
[04:25] <anomalie> tty u cant arrive querys?!
[04:25] <ttyfscker> ubuntu is a family like community.. we're here for support of ubuntu users
[04:25] <ttyfscker> anomalie:: register your nick with nickserv
[04:26] <Jentsu> on the upside, i'm not incurably stupid.
[04:26] <david_> I want to be able to fix my moms computer from my house
[04:26] <Senesence> How do I get rythmbox to play .pls streaming radio?
[04:26] <anomalie> uiui
[04:26] <Kyral> ttyfscker: Yah but I'm in a good mood for once and I don't want some rant about someone ngetting dumped to kill it
[04:26] <Jentsu> on the downside, there really does seem to be a problem with it, as there is indeed only one linux option.
[04:26] <whozatmac> increase_ specifically, the graphic is installed by the usplash package, so get the usplash source deb and poke around in there for images
[04:26] <Jentsu> "ubuntu, memtest86+"
[04:26] <Kyral> because more than likely it will remind me of my own failures :P
[04:26] <verbose> david_: what specifically is your question
[04:26] <lastent> longware i have a little problem, the disk i want to check is mi main disk
[04:26] <increase_> does anyone here know the webpage that states the steps needed to change the dapper ubuntu logon graphic  with the brown scrolling text below it? i did it on breezy, but forget the URL
[04:27] <darth_gimp> ..
[04:27] <david_> how do i control a computer over the internet?
[04:27] <Toma-> whats that app for converting avis to dvd? vid something...
[04:27] <increase_> whozatmac: theres a URL which has 4 commands to change it!
[04:27] <Toma-> david_: VNC
[04:27] <david_> i don't know how to find the address
[04:27] <increase_> whozatmac: I cant remember the URL
[04:27] <ttyfscker> Kyral:: i have had some big failures too.. the bad part is i'd rather hear about relationship failures, than hear about kernel failure
[04:27] <ttyfscker> haha
[04:27] <Toma-> david_: you cant simply control a computer with the adress (altho in XP you can)
[04:28] <Kyral> I can fix kernel problems
[04:28] <ttyfscker> i can too
[04:28] <Kyral> I can't fix relationship problems :P
[04:28] <david_> my moom runs xp
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> ewwwwwwww
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[04:28] <Toma-> david_: then you want an RPC app for linux?
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> jk
[04:28] <Jentsu> does anyone know why it didn't add the option to just finish installing ubuntu, or should I just try running a different distro, since this one doesn't seem to work for me?
[04:28] <Kyral> On XP finding the IP is easy
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> already in Ubuntu
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> under Places
[04:28] <ttyfscker> but its funny to hear relationship problems.. kernel problems require work and research.. you can bullshit your way to being a relationship counselor haha
[04:28] <whozatmac> david_ does your mom run windows or linux?
[04:28] <Senesence> Can anyone help me out?
[04:28] <Kyral> Open the command line (Yes it exists), and run "ipconfig"
[04:29] <whozatmac> or beos or os/2 or System 6.0?
[04:29] <david_> I can run my kids desktop from my computer but itsxp
[04:29] <michaelbleigh> i don't seem to have gcc on my ubuntu install...
[04:29] <nomasteryoda|w> whozatmac, you on dialup?
[04:29] <johnny> does anyone else have problems installing dapper?
[04:29] <michaelbleigh> this is troubling
[04:29] <michaelbleigh> echo ${CC}
[04:29] <david_> windows xp
[04:29] <michaelbleigh> does nothing
[04:29] <Toma-> Senesence: isnt .pls a playlist?
[04:29] <Kyral> michaelbleigh: it isn't installed by default
[04:29] <johnny> when i install the installation works fine but when i boot up it just sits there saying "uncompressing the kernel"
[04:29] <Kyral> !compile
[04:29] <johnny> and it doesnt do anything
[04:29] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:29] <whozatmac> nomasteryoda|w no
[04:29] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: run "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[04:29] <increase_> !ubuntulogo
[04:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntulogo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:29] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:29] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: errr run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:30] <michaelbleigh> Toma: the problem with that is that my nic card wasn't detected
[04:30] <whozatmac> wifi though, it's like dialup that goes really fast
[04:30] <johnny> does anyone know what the problem might be
[04:30] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: doh!
[04:30] <Senesence> Toma-, Well .pls should link to a radio stream, right?
[04:30] <johnny> i'm trying to install dapper on a dell latitude d500
[04:30] <Toma-> Senesence: itll give you a aplylist of radio streams...
[04:30] <Toma-> *playlist
[04:30] <fusionxn1> Where are programs installed to?
[04:30] <fusionxn1> Im tring to tell firefox to launch with azureus but i cant find it
[04:30] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: and youre compiling drivers?
[04:30] <nomasteryoda|w> fusionxn1, all over... but mostly in /usr/bin
[04:30] <johnny> i installed breezy last week fine but now when i try to reinstall it gets to 87% install and quits
[04:30] <fusionxn1> k thanks
[04:30] <nomasteryoda|w> fusionxn1, search with
[04:31] <michaelbleigh> toma: yeah
[04:31] <Toma-> johnny: did you run a media check?
[04:31] <Senesence> Toma-, Can rythmbox play that like realplayer can?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> johnny: I have it on a Dell D610
[04:31] <johnny> no
[04:31] <johnny> how do i
[04:31] <nomasteryoda|w> find . -iname azureus\*
[04:31] <Toma-> Senesence: not sure. im a advocate of XMMS and that can play pls and radio streams
[04:31] <johnny> i installed it last week and it worked fine but i didnt put enough swap
[04:31] <johnny> now it wont install
[04:31] <Toma-> johnny: its one of the options you get then the install cd first boots up
[04:31] <fusionxn1> how do i search with
[04:31] <fusionxn1> I cant find it
[04:32] <nomasteryoda|w> fusionxn1, if you just installed, then the menus might not be updated
[04:32] <nomasteryoda|w> try sudo find . -iname azureus\*
[04:32] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: you have a working internet connection right? can you put packages onto the ubuntu machine somehow?
[04:32] <ardchoille> fusionxn1: Have you tried looking in /usr/lib/azureus ?
[04:32] <johnny> f1 Toma- ?
[04:32] <fusionxn1> They are there, just that I'm tring to tell firefox to load .torrent with it
[04:32] <dooglus> fusionxn1: how do you run azureus?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda|w> fusionxn1, that command i just gave will do it
[04:32] <nomasteryoda|w> for finding it
[04:32] <Toma-> johnny: um. theres a list of things you can do when the CD boots up, check it out
[04:33] <Toma-> otherwsie, check the md5sum in windows
[04:33] <Toma-> !md5sum
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about md5sum - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:33] <fusionxn1> ardchoille.. not there
[04:33] <michaelbleigh> if i knew how to put packages on there, i definitely would
[04:33] <Toma-> damn you bot
[04:33] <michaelbleigh> any hints on how to do that?
[04:33] <Toma-> !install
[04:33] <fusionxn1> dooglus i used automatrix
[04:33] <johnny> whats md5sum?
[04:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:33] <auge02> gn8@all
[04:33] <michaelbleigh> i have a usb key
[04:33] <dooglus> fusionxn1: to run it?
[04:33] <fusionxn1> to install it then its under internet
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> johnny: Nero offers a program to check MD5
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Free
[04:33] <johnny> what is md5?
[04:33] <dooglus> fusionxn1: so examine the properties of the menu entry
[04:33] <johnny> and what am i checking?
[04:33] <dooglus> that will tell you where it is
[04:34] <aliendream23> I have read a million pages and cannot solve my wireless card problem
[04:34] <aliendream23> all of the fixes require internet access and the system has not access without this card
[04:34] <johnny> it says check virtual console 4
[04:34] <johnny> but i dont know how
[04:34] <ardchoille> johnny: md5sum - compute and check MD5 message digest
[04:34] <johnny> or what that is
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, sure we can solve it
[04:34] <aliendream23> it is a wmp54g
[04:34] <aliendream23> broadcom 4306 v3
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> johnny, Ctrl+Alt+F4 ... F7 to come back to this gui
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> er Alt+F7
[04:35] <michaelbleigh> is there a way to install apt packages without an internet connection (on the machine that needs them)
[04:35] <johnny> what about it?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, ok so you need the bcm firmware
[04:35] <fusionxn1> its in  OPT/AZUREUS
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> johnny, that is how to switch to another terminal
[04:35] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: as in deb packages?
[04:35] <johnny> i didnt ask that
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> sorry
[04:36] <michaelbleigh> yeah
[04:36] <johnny> n/p
[04:36] <michaelbleigh> i think, i dunno
[04:36] <aliendream23> noma, i have the drivers for the card in the ubuntu desktop, but cannot access the tool required to extract the firmware
[04:36] <aliendream23> it sais it cannot find it
[04:36] <dooglus> fusionxn1: azureus doesn't work well in dapper unless you use a beta
[04:36] <michaelbleigh> i need to get gcc
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> johnny: it says check virtual console 4
[04:36] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: 'sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb'
[04:36] <michaelbleigh> i'm a linux install newbie
[04:36] <fusionxn1> bingo... working
[04:36] <michaelbleigh> ok
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, mine does
[04:36] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: just a min ute
[04:36] <fusionxn1> same mines fine
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> does not crash either
[04:36] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: the little square popup in the bottom right doesnm't get stuck?
[04:36] <fusionxn1> now firefox opens .torrent with azureus :)
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> nope
[04:37] <nubster> i need help installling gcc
[04:37] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: what version?
[04:37] <fusionxn1> dooglus no mine hid when i clicked hide all
[04:37] <nomasteryoda|w> just sec
[04:38] <hlabs> can some one tell me how to setup my webcam in ubuntu
[04:38] <Toma-> hlabs: plug it in, go nuts
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, 2.4.02
[04:38] <hlabs> well i did. But there is no video coming up
[04:39] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: strange.  didn't work for me
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> er... 0.2
[04:39] <Toma-> hlabs: what program you using to see the video?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> weird
[04:39] <hlabs> amsn
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, you upgrade from breezy and keep your gconf/azureus settings?
[04:39] <chol> nubster, install build-essential, should get you up to date with gcc
[04:39] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: yes
[04:39] <nubster> how do i do that?
[04:40] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: you?
[04:40] <chol> nubster, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> mine did not work until i removed those older settings
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> ymmv
[04:40] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: what didn't work?  the popup dismiss?
[04:40] <fusionxn1> Is there anyway to make icons smaller on the desktop?
[04:40] <fusionxn1> and the text
[04:41] <hlabs> well
[04:41] <nubster> it wont do it...this comes up:No candidate version found for build-essential
[04:41] <nubster> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[04:41] <nubster> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:41] <hlabs> how can i setup my webcam
[04:41] <nubster> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[04:41] <chol> nubster, please highlite me when replying
[04:41] <nubster> chol, my bad
[04:42] <chol> nubster, np, try to just install gcc then and see if that works?
[04:42] <chol> nubster, it won't get you all that's needed but it's a start
[04:42] <increase_> whozatmac: I found the URL! its called USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:42] <nubster> well i dont know how to go about doing that
[04:42] <aliendream23> q:how do I get the firmware for my wmp54g???
[04:42] <aliendream23> particularly with no internet connection?
[04:42] <nubster> like i have the tarball extracted already
[04:42] <aliendream23> if I already have the driver on disc?
[04:42] <chol> nubster, just like before, aptitude install gcc, it's not hard >(
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, you have no wired option?
[04:42] <chol> nubster, err :)
[04:43] <aliendream23> nope
[04:43] <F1re4fect> Anyone have nessus 3.0.3 working on ubuntu 6.06?
[04:43] <chol> nubster, you've choosen ubuntu, no need to compile when there's a gazillion of packages availible
[04:43] <michaelbleigh> my god, trying to install packages without a connection is like some kind of hellish nightmare
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, how are you on the net now?
[04:43] <Toma-> hlabs: is the camera showing up in the amsn configuration part?
[04:43] <aliendream23> different comp
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> well thats not an issue
[04:43] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: yep. 1 moment plz
[04:43] <increase_> F1re4fect: whats that?
[04:43] <nubster> chol, this came up: No candidate version found for gcc
[04:43] <nubster> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[04:44] <nubster> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:44] <dooglus> nubster: michaelbleigh not really - get them from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and install with dpkg -i
[04:44] <nubster> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> you download what you need, put on a usb stick or even floppy and load it up
[04:44] <Raul654> I have two very simle questions - what are the commands to print the currently configured DNS servers
[04:44] <chol> nubster, sounds like you might need to aptitude update
[04:44] <Raul654> and to configure a new one?
[04:44] <F1re4fect> having a problem with openssl, its looking for 0.9.7 but 0.9.8 is installed
[04:44] <tamale> Hello everyone!  I've decided it was a big mistake choosing FAT32 for my media partition rather than ext3 'cause of the file size limits!  And there's a good ext3 driver for windows anyway.. Sooo..  I'm wondering how I can reformat my fat32 partition to ext3.. could someone help?
[04:44] <aliendream23> what do I ned???
[04:44] <inrelief> hey all, i've noticed that ubuntu utilizes several 'redendant' services.  For cronjobs there's anacron, atd, and cron.  For syslogging there's klogd and sysklogd.  Does ubuntu require all of these services, or are we expected to prune them down per our choice?
[04:44] <aliendream23> need even...
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, looking for  what i found worked best
[04:44] <inrelief> and i meant 'redundant'
[04:44] <Inazad> Someone have aireplay 2.2 ?
[04:44] <aliendream23> k
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> i have one of those cards here
[04:44] <tamale> Raul654:   cat /etc/resolve.conf
[04:45] <dooglus> inrelief: anacron, at and cron all do different things.  you should keep them all (except maybe at)
[04:45] <Inazad> Someone have aireplay 2.2 or to know how to use aireplay ?
[04:45] <Toma-> michaelbleigh: go here and get ALL the packages with the red dots, (and obviously the gcc package) and also the green ones. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/gcc-4.0
[04:45] <aliendream23> sorry for being so knuckleheaded about this but I have been loking for a solution for about 8 hours
[04:45] <SuperMiguel> what is airplay used for
[04:45] <Raul654> tamale - is /etc/resolve.conf generated at boot time?
[04:45] <aliendream23> this is my first linux install
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> man sorry to hear that
[04:45] <Raul654> tamale - or is it user-configured?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> but proprietary drivers do suck
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> blame the mfg
[04:45] <Inazad> SuperMiguel, to increase the traffic between 2 cpu..
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> but new linux kernel will fix that
[04:45] <tamale> Raul654:  well, I believe it's set when DHCP happens
[04:46] <nomasteryoda|w> at least for bcm
[04:46] <chol> !repos > nubster
[04:46] <inrelief> dooglus, don't anacron and cron both just execute actions when scheduled?
[04:46] <Raul654> tamale - that's the point, I am trying to configure it statically
[04:46] <aliendream23> when is that due?
[04:46] <hlabs> help needed in setting up webcam. Plz help m
[04:46] <nubster> chol, whats that mean?
[04:46] <hlabs> me
[04:46] <dooglus> inrelief: anacron runs stuff which was schedules to happen when the PC was switched off
[04:46] <Raul654> I am trying to create a crontab to statically set the IP, netmask, gateway, and DNS
[04:46] <nomasteryoda|w> i'm sure the next release... edgy will have it
[04:46] <fusionxn1> Ubuntu is the best linux os I have come across (also Kubuntu )
[04:46] <Raul654> the first three aren't too hard
[04:46] <tamale> Raul654:  The network config tool should be able to have those values set manually
[04:47] <fusionxn1> Can you use KDE apps with Ubuntu?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> but you can get it going now
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> fusionxn1, yes
[04:47] <Raul654> tamale - network config tool?
[04:47] <fusionxn1> Cool thanks
[04:47] <chol> nubster, read the pm, you might need to add a few more sources to get gcc although it sounds weird, it should be in universe
[04:47] <tamale>  I'm wondering how I can reformat my fat32 partition to ext3.. could someone help?
[04:47] <inrelief> dooglus, i used anacron and only anacron on gentoo as my cronjob manager
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> fusionxn1, like apt-get install kde-edu
[04:47] <fusionxn1> Is there any WMV codecs for VLC
[04:47] <tamale> system - administration - networking
[04:47] <dooglus> inrelief: I don't think anacron can run jobs hourly
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> ya
[04:47] <Raul654> tamale - what about from the command line?
[04:47] <Seveas> !info  kino edgy
[04:48] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In repository main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[04:48] <tamale> then configure
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> !codecs > fusionxn1
[04:48] <fusionxn1> !codecs
[04:48] <inrelief> "Anacron can be used to execute commands preiodically, with a frequency specified in days.  Unlike cron, it does not assume that the machine is running continuously"
[04:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> is there a flv player for ubuntu?
[04:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:48] <inrelief> dooglus, ah
[04:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> flv!
[04:48] <fusionxn1> I got the WMV codecs
[04:48] <Raul654> tamale - what's the name of the problem?
[04:48] <tamale> raul654:  i'm not sure  about the command line
[04:48] <fusionxn1> but VLC plays as audio only
[04:48] <dooglus> inrelief: also, anacron isn't a daemon.  it is run by cron
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> what about xine?
[04:48] <fluvvell> I just upgraded to dapper, my 3rd machine and most important one - no real problems except for snapscan / xsane.  xsane doesn't find my acer 3300/4400 scanner.  Its there on the bus but not being noticed by xsane.
[04:49] <fusionxn1> i dont tihnk i got that one
[04:49] <dooglus> inrelief: (and also when you boot, change runlevels, etc)
[04:49] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, install the bcm43xx-fwcutter package
[04:49] <fusionxn1> Nope...
[04:49] <aliendream23> where do i find that?
[04:49] <nomasteryoda|w> as in download it
[04:49] <chol> nubster, put ur /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin, perhaps I can spot an error if there is one
[04:49] <nubster> thanks chol
[04:49] <nomasteryoda|w> just sec
[04:49] <Steve_973> hello.  anybody know where the e100 driver is in the kernel, please?
[04:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys anyone knows a flv player for ubuntu>?
[04:50] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, it is in the Universe repositories
[04:50] <nubster> chol, will do. what do u want me to name it so it stands out?
[04:50] <chol> Steve_973, device drivers, network devices, 10 and 100 mbit of the top of my head
[04:50] <inrelief> dooglus, you sure anacron is run by cron?  i was under the impression they're two separate processes
[04:50] <Steve_973> chol, i didn't see it.
[04:50] <Steve_973> chol, any idea under which specific category?
[04:50] <aliendream23> I am having problems finding it
[04:51] <chol> nubster, just paste it somewhere and give me url, you can choose any name
[04:51] <aliendream23> I believe I have the universe enabled...
[04:51] <chol> Steve_973, i'll have a look for you, hold
[04:51] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[04:51] <Steve_973> thanks!
[04:51] <Inazad> Someone know how to use aireplay ?
[04:51] <nomasteryoda|w> if you follow the server path... http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> !fwcutter
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about fwcutter - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> !broadcom
[04:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> ah, there you go
[04:52] <weex> dapper drake is quite awesome, but....I'm going to want to watch avi's with divx encoding, what's the best player for that?
[04:52] <chol> Steve_973, device drivers, network device support, ethernet (10 or 100mbit), enable other ISA cards and there it is
[04:52] <nubster> chol, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18983
[04:53] <chol> Steve_973, although that looks fishy, i'll check again
[04:53] <chol> nubster, ok
[04:53] <aliendream23> confused, I looked all thru there
[04:53] <aliendream23> earlier
[04:53] <aliendream23> couldn't find what I was looking for
[04:53] <nomasteryoda|w> ok, give me a second
[04:54] <chol> Steve_973, yeah, other ISA cards and then EISA, VLB, PCI... and there you have it
[04:54] <F1re4fect> Anyone using Nessus 3 on Dapper?
[04:54] <Steve_973> ok lemme go check
[04:54] <Steve_973> thanks
[04:54] <chol> nubster, you installed w/o internet connection?
[04:54] <chol> nubster, you need to remove the # from atleast line 2, 4, 9 and 11
[04:55] <anomalie> bye
[04:55] <nubster> chol, yeah...i have cable it's always connected
[04:56] <chol> nubster, # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: makes me think that something failed during install, such as the internet connection not being there, non functional dns
[04:56] <aliendream23> how do I know for certain weather or not I have the universe enabled correctly?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23,  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> try looking there
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> it will throw an error if it is not right
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> when you run apt-get update
[04:56] <chol> nubster, but remove the hash and do a sudo aptitude update and upgrade, when that's complete you can go ahead and install build-essential
[04:57] <aliendream23> how do I know which one?
[04:57] <jesspher> hi
[04:58] <jesspher> can anybody here help me with installing a game with wine
[04:58] <{alejandro}> does it use directx
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, i'm guessing you have an Intel based processor
[04:58] <fusionxn1> kesspher which game
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060108-6build1_i386.deb
[04:58] <jesspher> dungeon siege
[04:58] <{alejandro}> because if it does there is no hope
[04:58] <michaelbleigh> well i finally got gcc installed and it didn't make a damn bit of difference because ubuntu still doesn't recognize that i have a nic card
[04:58] <fusionxn1> wine has a compatability list online
[04:58] <michaelbleigh> how do you add new hardware to ubuntu
[04:59] <jesspher> do u know the web adress
[04:59] <aliendream23> cool, i got that one already just before you posted, I feel as if I am making a bit of progress:)
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> michaelbleigh, usually just plug in and start it up
[04:59] <chol> michaelbleigh, it's not windows, most of the kernel modules (drivers) are already there so most of the devices should work right away
[04:59] <fusionxn1> yes 1 sec
[04:59] <jesspher> thanks
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> is it a Texas instruments based chipset michaelbleigh
[04:59] <jesspher> fusionxnl, thanks
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> i have no luck with them
[04:59] <cliffd> does anyone know the name of the program ubuntu uses to control the media keys and make that little pop up volume bar appear? thanks.
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> ys
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> yes cliffd
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> just look under Preferences, keyboard shortcuts
[05:00] <aliendream23> its an amd
[05:00] <michaelbleigh> chol: but what do you do when it DOESN'T work
[05:00] <ozzloy> is it better to have a fan pointed in or out of the window?
[05:00] <fusionxn1> here mate
[05:00] <michaelbleigh> i have a built-in nic card on an nforce 2 motherboard that isn't being detected
[05:00] <fusionxn1> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=770
[05:00] <michaelbleigh> and without internet i may as well have installed linux on a rock
[05:00] <ozzloy> considering i want it to be cool inside, and it's currently cooler outside
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:00] <chol> michaelbleigh, then it's a different story, i belive ubotu has a link to a kernel compile howto
[05:00] <jpatota> p
[05:00] <hlabs> ok how can i check what ip address my pc is given
[05:00] <increase_> flash is installing but froze half way done!  what can I do?
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> michaelbleigh, what model...
[05:01] <cliffd> nomasteryoda|w: I dont have ubuntu installed. I want to get the same setup going on another persons computer. do you know what its called?
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> sorry if i missed it
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> cliffd, jsut sec
[05:01] <ozzloy> hlabs: in a terminal do ifconfig
[05:01] <chol> michaelbleigh, what kind of hardware?
[05:01] <cliffd> nomasteryoda|w: thanks much.
[05:01] <knapper_> hey fellas, is there anyway to preload firefox on gnome startup? like load the process, but hidden..
[05:01] <jesspher> fusion, so i guess it wont install under wine
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> cliffd, gnome-keybinding-properties
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> is what is listed in the launcher
[05:01] <jesspher> fusion, but can you still help me on installing a game like nba live 2004
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> i want that on SuSE too... =(
[05:01] <jesspher> please help
[05:01] <cliffd> nomasteryoda|w: thanks much.
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> np
[05:01] <ozzloy> hlabs: it will print out various info, you are looking for the inet addr
[05:02] <hlabs> thanks man i got it
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> jesspher, you will need wine to do that man
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> if it wil work
[05:02] <michaelbleigh> it's a shuttle sn41g with an nforce 2 motherboard and integrated nic
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> ah
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> did you try any other distros michaelbleigh ?
[05:02] <chol> !kernel > michaelbleigh
[05:03] <[Ex0r] > hmm question
[05:03] <jesspher> can anybody help me with installing nba live 2004 using wine
[05:03] <michaelbleigh> no, haven't tried any other distros
[05:03] <jesspher> please help
[05:03] <fusionxn1> jesspher - im new to linux :(
[05:03] <deltaremc> Hello.
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> ok,...
[05:03] <chol> michaelbleigh, nforce is known to have problems iirc
[05:03] <fusionxn1> erm ok
[05:03] <jesspher> ok, thanks fusion
[05:03] <aliendream23> Q: how do I ensure the universe is enabled, please?
[05:03] <fusionxn1> I trie Photoshop CS2 it wouldnt work
[05:03] <fusionxn1> tried*
[05:03] <[Ex0r] > um... holy hell
[05:03] <fusionxn1> goto the termanal window and type wine "LOCATION"
[05:03] <michaelbleigh> so should i just give up on ubuntu and move on to another distro?
[05:04] <jesspher> fusion, are you talking to me?
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> michaelbleigh, no
[05:04] <F1re4fect> Wine has a site on what works and doesn't, and if it works, how to make it work
[05:04] <chol> aliendream23, you look for the url lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that contain universe and make sure that there's no # infront of them
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> michaelbleigh, so it shows no nic at all with "lspci"?
[05:04] <s_spiff> do we have flash player on linux?
[05:04] <jesspher> can anybody here help me with installing games with wine
[05:04] <fusionxn1> yes
[05:04] <jesspher> ok
[05:04] <jesspher> fusion
[05:04] <fusionxn1> jesspher open a termal window
[05:04] <dr_willis> wine path/to/installer.exe
[05:04] <dr_willis> :)
[05:05] <michaelbleigh> yeah, no nic at all
[05:05] <fusionxn1> is it on CD - ya?
[05:05] <jesspher> yes
[05:05] <TehUni> i installed ubuntu, then windows. My mbr now points to windows. If i reinstall ubuntu over the old one, will grub see the windows install and let me choose at boot time?
[05:05] <mnguyen_> Ubuntu is so easy... it's almost unfair
[05:05] <mnguyen_> TehUni: just re-install grub and you'll be okay
[05:05] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[05:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixgrub - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:05] <fusionxn1> jesspher you need to type wine "locationhere"
[05:05] <mnguyen_> TehUni: don't re-install ubuntu
[05:05] <dr_willis> ~grub
[05:05] <fusionxn1> with the quotes
[05:05] <dr_willis> Hmm
[05:05] <chol> michaelbleigh, you to need to start prefixing peoples nick when you spek, can't keep all questions apart otherwise
[05:05] <[Ex0r] > holy hell... about 5 hours worth of activity just suddenly appeared on my screen
[05:06] <jesspher> ok
[05:06] <michaelbleigh> sorry
[05:06] <nubster> chol, seems to be working thanks a lot for the help
[05:06] <michaelbleigh> chol: sorry ;)
[05:06] <fusionxn1> brb
[05:06] <deltaremc> Good evening. Can anyone tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu?
[05:06] <jesspher> fusion, is it "wine location here"
[05:06] <TehUni> mnguyen: how do i fix grub? i can't get into my ubuntu install?
[05:06] <chol> nubster, np, glad to help
[05:06] <chol> michaelbleigh, :)
[05:06] <mnguyen_> freakin just switched from ubuntu from gentoo... ubuntu is ridiculous... i almost feel dumb using it
[05:06] <[Ex0r] > Now, to ask my question
[05:06] <inrelief> anybody else have troubles w/rhythmbox freezing into an uninterruptiable state?
[05:06] <[Ex0r] > if I install ubuntu in a machine than remove the hdd and install it in another machine, will I have to re-install ubuntu ?
[05:06] <chol> michaelbleigh, but do some googling for nforce and linux to see if someone has written something about it_
[05:06] <aliendream23> ok, now my floppy wont open
[05:06] <dr_willis> [Ex0r] ,  ive done that befor.
[05:07] <fusionxn1> wine "location here"
[05:07] <jesspher> ok
[05:07] <CrazyMonkey> I imported round 160g of data from my old Windows drive and i need a command to do a recursive rm of all the Thumbs.db files... Any idea?
[05:07] <[Ex0r] > dr_willis- I am going to install ubuntu in a machine tonight, but the hdd is going in another machine tomorrow and I don't want to have to install it all twice.
[05:07] <Balian> Allo, Bit of a problem. I just installed ubuntu and tried installing KDE from the package program. I got it up and running but for some reason it killed my internet connection. So I reinstalled ubuntu and formatted the HD. Net works fine now. Any idea what happened?
[05:07] <[Ex0r] > CrazyMonkey- sudo rm -rf Thumbs.db
[05:07] <jesspher> fusion, can i use my dvd drive
[05:08] <PORDO> my room mate just tried to tell me that there's a difference between audio and data burnable cd's.
[05:08] <PORDO> hrm.
[05:08] <fusionxn1> what do you mean
[05:08] <PORDO> i didn't want to correct him.
[05:08] <[Ex0r] > PORDO- there is
[05:08] <TehUni> mnguyen or dr_willis: how do i fix grub? i can't get into my ubuntu install?
[05:08] <jesspher> use my dvd drive to install the game
[05:08] <PORDO> lol.
[05:08] <michaelbleigh> wish i had a spare nic card lying around to throw in it
[05:08] <dr_willis> comercial audio cds are normally 'pressed'
[05:08] <chol> CrazyMonkey, find /path/to/pics -name Thumbs.db -exec rm {} \;
[05:08] <CrazyMonkey> Ex0r- thanks alot
[05:08] <PORDO> dr_willis i said "burnable"
[05:08] <dr_willis> TehUni,  theres a wiki page on it.
[05:08] <fusionxn1> not sure i tried to install photoshop and i got an error saying EXE is incorrect or invalid
[05:08] <fusionxn1> I guess so
[05:08] <PORDO> [Ex0r]  i have NEVER seen a burnable cd that couldn't be used for either.
[05:08] <fusionxn1> BRB
[05:08] <deltaremc> Good evening. Can anyone tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu 6?
[05:09] <dr_willis> PORDO,  ones audio ones data.. thats different. :)
[05:09] <jesspher> now it says wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\NBA2004_1.exe": Module not found
[05:09] <Nekow42> Hey, does the linux version of rar ever expire? I know unrar doesn't, but synaptic says in the description for the package "rar" that i have to register it after 40 days of use.
[05:09] <[Ex0r] > PORDO- Maybe he was refering to the on-disc type as opposed to the actual media ?
[05:09] <PORDO> dr_willis the cd is the same.  you just burn different data to it.
[05:09] <fusionxn1> jesspher im stumped then
[05:09] <dr_willis> PORDO,  you mean as in the actual physical media cd :P
[05:09] <PORDO> [Ex0r]  he was like, "i have some data cd's, but no audio cd's for you to use"
[05:09] <[Ex0r] > ah, lol
[05:09] <knapper_> Is there anyway to preload firefox on gnome startup? like load the process, but hidden..
[05:09] <jesspher> fusion, so if im trying to install a game i just type wine "location here"
[05:10] <dr_willis> They do sell 'audio cd-r's' that have some extra Tax on them.
[05:10] <jesspher> what would happen next
[05:10] <dr_willis> :)
[05:10] <Asc> PORDO: I think that deserves correction.
[05:10] <PORDO> knapper_ that's simple.
[05:10] <PORDO> Asc i'd feel bad.  i'm rooming with these non-tech-savvy hippies for the summer.
[05:10] <jesspher> can anybody help me with ejecting my optical drives cause they wont
[05:10] <[Ex0r] > PORDO- yes, they do create 'audio cd's' with special attributes to them
[05:10] <deltaremc> Good evening. Can anyone tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu?
[05:10] <fusionxn1> jesspher it should launch like an exe
[05:10] <[Ex0r] > jesspher- use the manual eject button
[05:11] <fusionxn1> How do i tell it to move a file to a folder in the termal in which the folder is permission denied
[05:11] <Asc> Well, hippies earns them some leniency.
[05:11] <jesspher> fusion, so it would continue on
[05:11] <fusionxn1> should do
[05:11] <lufis> Hi. What's the best audiohpile-approved CD burner?
[05:11] <seeker__> Sarra_: hey hey
[05:11] <Sarra_> hi seeker
[05:11] <[Ex0r] > So anyways, does anyone know if that works? (Installing ubuntu in system A, removing hdd, and installing hdd in system B)
[05:11] <mnguyen> Is there anyway to check to see if my opengl is working correctly (and that my nvidia drivers are setup correctly)?
[05:11] <jesspher> fusion, do you think windows media player 9 would work
[05:11] <michaelbleigh> so i assume that if lspci doesn't list the device, there's no simple way to fix the problem eh?
[05:11] <fusionxn1> i dont know check the appdb link i sent you
[05:12] <chol> [Ex0r] , basically, yes
[05:12] <fusionxn1> apparently IE 6 does (it sucks so :p)
[05:12] <jesspher> ok, thanks
[05:12] <jesspher> for the help fusion
[05:12] <jesspher> thanks so much
[05:12] <[Ex0r] > chol- I mean I know it'll run hardware configurator, but aside from that, it should just boot right up, unlike xp which gives you a hardware device failure ?
[05:12] <Sarra_> mnguyen, wouldn't that mess up the HAL?
[05:12] <fusionxn1> jesspher hope i could do more :)
[05:13] <hlabs> hey can some one please tell me how can i setup a webcam
[05:13] <deltaremc> Hi. Can somebody tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu 6.06?
[05:13] <jesspher> fusion, can you help me ejecting my optical drives cause manually doesn't do it
[05:13] <Asc> If I wanted to remove an installed kernel, should I just remove /lib/modules/[kernel version]  and /boot/[everything with [kernel version]  in the name] ?
[05:13] <chol> [Ex0r] , it shold work right away, perhaps some fiddling with nic modules
[05:13] <fusionxn1> Can someone tell me how i can move a file to /opt/azureus/ ?
[05:13] <jesspher> is there an automatic way
[05:13] <_vinboy> any good UML diagrammer?
[05:13] <Nekow42> what is that bot's name again....
[05:13] <fusionxn1> it says permission denied
[05:13] <Nekow42> !list
[05:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:13] <[Ex0r] > chol-I am going to use the same NIC in both machines, just different mobo's/cpu's/etc
[05:14] <chol> [Ex0r] , heck, even my freebsd install worked when i swapped it from my 600mhz laptop to my new 2ghz one
[05:14] <Sarra_> fusionxn1: use a command line and sudo
[05:14] <fusionxn1> how do i move a file to /opt/azureus/ which command line
[05:14] <[Ex0r] > I am going to give it a try and hope it works
[05:14] <Sarra_> use the mv command
[05:14] <mnguyen> Sarra_: what do you mean? Why would nvidia drivers mess up with HAL?
[05:14] <chol> [Ex0r] , the kernel is build with generic x86 support so you should be fine
[05:14] <[Ex0r] > really don't want to copy over 50 gigs worth of data more than once
[05:15] <gamma> how do i go about stopping a module (nvidia) from automatically getting loading.. it thinks it's supported with my card, but isn't and hardlocks the system
[05:15] <dr_willis> thats what fileservers are for.
[05:15] <deltaremc> Hi. Can somebody tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu 6.06?
[05:15] <Sarra_> mnguyen: are you trying to move the hard drive from one PC to another identical PC, motherboard and videocard-wise?
[05:15] <mnguyen> Sarra_: I think you have me mixed up with somebody else
[05:15] <Sarra_> sorry then
[05:15] <Sarra_> :P
[05:16] <gould> [deltaremc]   Do you have you pen currently working?
[05:16] <[Ex0r] > Sarra_- that was me and no
[05:16] <[Ex0r] > different mobo, vid card, all that jazz
[05:16] <fusionxn1> What command line do i use to move a file to /opt/
[05:16] <deltaremc> Thanks. Yes, it's working.
[05:16] <verbose> fusionxn1: mv a\ file /opt
[05:16] <Sarra_> [Ex0r] : I'd assume that, as long as the chipset and video chipset are similar, it should work, but I wouldn't bet on it
[05:17] <verbose> fusionxn1: man mv
[05:17] <[Ex0r] > They are nowhere near similar. It's going from a 100mhz to a 920 mhz pc
[05:17] <gould> OK thanks I have been trying to get my toshiba working but have not had any luck yet
[05:17] <[Ex0r] > I could do it fine with fedora after it was re-installed in a new machine, it just needed to run the hardware check for configuring new hardware
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> michaelbleigh, sorry to have dropped off
[05:18] <aliendream23> ok, I have fwcutter
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> ya, it should be there somewhere
[05:18] <aliendream23> now what?
[05:18] <dr_willis> [Ex0r] ,  you are proberly better off just waiting and isntalling on the 900mhx box. a installin the 100.. will take an hr or 2 perhaps. :)
[05:18] <[Ex0r] > dr_willis- Not when you are installing bare minimal :)
[05:18] <deltaremc> The pointer moves with the pen but it's not on the same place on the screen
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> ok aliendream23 now you need the actual bcmwl5.sys or some such driver file to cut
[05:18] <[Ex0r] > It's for a server, no x or anything
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> download that from the mfg site
[05:18] <Sarra_> [Ex0r] : it may take that long just to get install to decide it wants to run. ;)
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> it will be a windows file
[05:19] <aliendream23> it is on the desktop
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> but you can extract it by using wine
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, ok
[05:19] <[Ex0r] > had no problems with fedora, seems as if ubuntu being more advanced wouldn't either
[05:19] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to isntall direct x???
[05:19] <deeghetal> i can't figure out how to mount my floppy drive can someone help
[05:19] <aliendream23> :)
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> SuperMiguel, no
[05:19] <Sarra_> If you have time to kill, give it a shot, [Ex0r] . Otherwise, wait on it, especially if you have files you need to keep on that harddrive
[05:19] <rougeagle> I am unable to connect to a wpa network, can anybody provide some ideas?
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> MS would not like that
[05:19] <epidemik> how do you restart xserver?
[05:20] <epidemik> i always accedantly shut it down
[05:20] <[Ex0r] > ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:20] <deltaremc> Can somebody tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu 6.06?
[05:20] <chol> rougeagle, install and configure wpasupplicant
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:20] <SuperMiguel> nomasteryoda |w how can i play games with wine that need direct x?
[05:20] <fusionxn1> verbose i took of the a\ and it worked thanks and put sudo in front :)
[05:20] <rougeagle> chol: how do I go about configuring wpasupplicant?
[05:20] <[Ex0r] > SuperMiguel- you don't. The beauty of wine :)
[05:20] <deeghetal> mount /mnt/floppy0 doesn't work
[05:20] <chol> rougeagle, you google ;)
[05:20] <fusionxn1> Who had the problem with azureus
[05:20] <aliendream23> how do I go about using fwcutter???
[05:20] <chol> rougeagle, nah, i can help you out
[05:20] <[Ex0r] > Wine is a very very poor solution to running games
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> SuperMiguel, wine will kinda do it, but its not the same
[05:20] <chol> rougeagle, is it installed?
[05:21] <rougeagle> chol: yes
[05:21] <verbose> fusionxn1: yeah, a\ file was kind of a joke...if your filename was "a file" without quotes that would be the command
[05:21] <fusionxn1> @ verbose i feel like a dumbass
[05:21] <chol> rougeagle, pm
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-k7 /path/to/bcmwl5.sys
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> something like that
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> but different kernel
[05:22] <deltaremc> Hi. Can somebody tell me how to calibrate a tablet PC pen on ubuntu 6.06?
[05:22] <aliendream23> how do I get the kernel? (((VERY new to all this)))
[05:22] <fusionxn1> I need some help with azureus - i tell it to update and when i do i restart and it says it again
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> uname -a
[05:22] <deeghetal> i require assistance mounting a floppy disk so i can install my raid drivers.
[05:22] <Sarra_> Why not grab newer RAID drivers off the internet?
[05:23] <dr_willis> mount /media/floppy    perhaps. :)
[05:23] <chol> rougeagle, you with me?
[05:23] <deeghetal> dr_willis: /media/floppy could not be found
[05:23] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, just replace that kernel number starting with 2.6 with what you have
[05:23] <[Ex0r] > you know I wonder if I install a hdd in ubuntu, and than get another one later on if I can setup a RAID system without having to re-format
[05:24] <dr_willis> deeghetal,  look in /media and see whats there.
[05:24] <deeghetal> ok
[05:24] <jesspher> hi
[05:24] <hlabs> any one know how to install xlite onto linux
[05:24] <jesspher> can anybody help me with installing deltaforce black hawk down using wine
[05:24] <jesspher> please help
[05:24] <deeghetal> oh wait i just did it
[05:24] <deeghetal> lol
[05:24] <deeghetal> thanks dr_willis
[05:25] <dr_willis> hlabs,  try the xlite homepage? never heard of it.
[05:25] <fusionxn1> If linux could run games (exes) i would make it my default os
[05:25] <dr_willis> jesspher,  pop in the cd.. use the command --->     wine /path/to/cd/install.exe
[05:25] <dr_willis> where path/to/cd is Proberly /media/cdrom/
[05:25] <jesspher> dr willis what do you mean by /to/
[05:26] <fusionxn1> jesspher
[05:26] <dr_willis> jesspher,  think about it.. you need to put the PATH to where the cd is at.
[05:26] <jesspher> hey fusionx
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my screem resolution
[05:26] <dr_willis>  cd /media/cdrom for example.
[05:26] <aliendream23> sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-386/desktop/bcmwl5.sys     ?
[05:26] <fusionxn1> put wine "PATHHERE" where path here is the location path to the .exe
[05:26] <chol> [Ex0r] , no you can't, it's different partition types but if you set it up first, lvm or raid, you can
[05:26] <jesspher> dr willis, if it is on the desktop what to i type
[05:26] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, try it
[05:26] <nomasteryoda|w> you should have a space
[05:26] <dr_willis> jesspher,  its an ICON thats just on the desktop. thats not the path to it.
[05:26] <aliendream23> there is a #1 after the kernel number do I need it?
[05:27] <fusionxn1> jesspher simple - put cd ~/Desktop then wine "EXENAME"
[05:27] <dr_willis> all the drivices show up in /media/ or should at least.
[05:27] <mil000000> Hi from argentina
[05:27] <mil000000> Can i install linux voyage on Hd installed in a pentium 4 whith internet to download the image etc and then just take out this HD and put it in another pc whith another older hardware that will be an acces point?  it will work? Or i need to burn the image and install it in the future AP whit the HD in it? sory if it's a stupid question...
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, what does it show in /lib/firmware?
[05:27] <[Ex0r] > hmm, brb
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> that is what you want to use ..
[05:27] <fusionxn1> wow linux can read nfos without changing the default app - nice :)
[05:28] <fusionxn1> jess that ok?
[05:28] <dr_willis>   a nfo?
[05:28] <fusionxn1> .nfo file
[05:28] <chol> mil000000, i'd recommend you to burn a cd and install from that
[05:28] <crimsun> (a text file)
[05:28] <aliendream23> ok
[05:28] <fusionxn1> ya :)
[05:28] <jesspher> so i mean it keeps saying wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\dfbhdlc.exe": Module not found
[05:28] <jesspher> please help me with this
[05:28] <fusionxn1> jess thats a wine error
[05:28] <jesspher> im so bored
[05:28] <dr_willis> You mean those idiotc text files that ya always see in rars? :P
[05:28] <jesspher> what can i do
[05:28] <crimsun> dr_willis: essentially.
[05:28] <fusionxn1> ya dr_ ;)
[05:28] <s_spiff> guys how do i install flash plugin for firefox and flock? i'm on amd64 arch
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-386 /home/aliendream23/Desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[05:28] <aliendream23> got it!
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> should be the last part and with a space
[05:29] <fusionxn1> s_spiff goto adobe.com and download the file - let me know when u got it
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> koolld
[05:29] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, already downloaded it, but didnt know how to install :(
[05:29] <mil000000> thank chol
[05:29] <aliendream23> the line i typed here worked
[05:29] <fusionxn1> ok s_spiff extract it
[05:29] <s_spiff> to a file on deskto?
[05:29] <fusionxn1> then double click flash_install then run in termanal
[05:29] <aliendream23> at leaste, it spat something out:)
[05:30] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, extract it to desktop?
[05:30] <fusionxn1> yes
[05:30] <LoneElf> So it appears that I am dumb. I am not sure how to set up perl CGI under apache2... And i cant manage to find a good page to help me out. Would anyone care to direct me to the proper documentation?
[05:30] <jesspher> does anybody here know any program that works perfectly with wine
[05:30] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, done
[05:30] <fusionxn1> jess IE 6 does
[05:30] <epidemik> is there a program i can use to overclock my processor or should i do it throughh the BIOS?
[05:30] <dr_willis> jesspher,  many of them work fine. sound slike your wine isntall is messed up
[05:30] <fusionxn1> s_spiff click flash_install (or installer) then click run in termanal
[05:30] <jesspher> what can i do
[05:31] <jesspher> please help me
[05:31] <dr_willis> epidemik,  overclocking can be a very bad idea.
[05:31] <jesspher> im new to linux
[05:31] <epidemik> dr_willis: why?
[05:31] <fusionxn1> then follow onscreen instructions
[05:31] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, ok..
[05:31] <epidemik> dr_willis: is it different in linux than it is in windows?
[05:31] <dr_willis> jesspher,  go to download.com and download some little windows app. and try wine whatever.exe   (try irfanview i know it works)
[05:31] <dr_willis> epidemik,  its not a good idea under windows either.
[05:31] <fusionxn1> let me know how u get on s_spiff
[05:31] <TooDamFast> "dumb. I am not sure how to set up perl CGI under apache2."   I thought I was a geek but I am no help,  perl cgi and pache2 go way over my head.
[05:31] <jesspher> ok
[05:31] <aliendream23> is that all I need to do???
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> ya
[05:31] <dr_willis> epidemik,  ive known of several instalnces where peoples Linux proglems have been due to overclocking.
[05:31] <Apostle^> what app can play midi files on linux?
[05:31] <NightwishFreak> overclocking is harmless if you have decent cooling and know what you are doing
[05:32] <fusionxn1> try utorrent standalone .exe?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, also install the nm-applet
[05:32] <TooDamFast> jesspher dvd shrink does
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> i.e. gnome-network-manager it is i think called now
[05:32] <aliendream23> nm
[05:32] <nExkill> hi
[05:32] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, got a error: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[05:32] <epidemik> nightwishfreak, should i do it through bios or is there a program i can use?
[05:32] <LoneElf> np TooDamFast.
[05:32] <fusionxn1> s_spiff then you need the 64-bit version
[05:32] <fusionxn1> IF there is one
[05:32] <Apostle^> what app can play midi files on linux?
[05:32] <aliendream23> the networking manager?
[05:33] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, ok..looking for it
[05:33] <aliendream23> i think I might have that?
[05:33] <NightwishFreak> bios is the best, software overclocking can be a bit flakey
[05:33] <fusionxn1> ill help brb
[05:33] <dr_willis> Apostle^,  many of them.. check freshmeat.net - i think xmms can for a start.
[05:33] <epidemik> nightwishfreak, thanks
[05:33] <rougeagle> chol: do I need to use the same spacing you used for the file entry you sent me in the pm?
[05:33] <aliendream23> under system, administration
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> that one is different, but will work
[05:33] <Apostle^> dr_willis, xmms doesn't seem to work
[05:33] <TooDamFast> dvd shirnk is the only program i use with wine but im a linux noob.  this is only week 3 for me but life is good.
[05:33] <chol> rougeagle, no man, thats not important, it just makes the file easier to read
[05:33] <aliendream23> nope
[05:33] <jesspher> dr willis, it still says wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\iview398.exe": Module not found
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> the one i mentioned is for the tray and will show nice wireless bars
[05:33] <epidemik> is there a program that i can use to benchmark my compie?
[05:33] <dr_willis> Apostle^,  try apt-cache search midi
[05:33] <aliendream23> still the same results
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> just sec
[05:34] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, is there a version for amd64? dont seem to find it
[05:34] <chol> jesspher, remove your ~/.wine directory and run the winesetupthingy again
[05:34] <Apostle^> dr_willis, nothing
[05:34] <fusionxn1> looking...
[05:34] <TooDamFast> 792 people in this channel.... it seems a little slow...
[05:34] <jesspher> how can i remove the wine directory
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, ah
[05:35] <TooDamFast> drag it to the trash?
[05:35] <chol> jesspher, use nautilus and press delete?
[05:35] <aliendream23> ??
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:35] <epidemik> is there a program that i can use to benchmark my compie?
[05:35] <jesspher> where can i find nautilus
[05:35] <fusionxn1> ok s_spiff you there
[05:36] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, yweah
[05:36] <chol> guys and gals here, you all need to start highlite:ing the one you talk to, it's completely unreadable
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> jesspher, just do Alt+F2 type nautilus
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:36] <Asc> do the config, System.map, and vmlinuz links in /boot do anything important?
[05:36] <jesspher> now i see file browser
[05:36] <epidemik> is there a program that i can use to benchmark my compie?
[05:36] <fusionxn1> Thers on 32-bit ATM so you need to uninstall firefox and install the 32-bit version. This ISNT for ubuntu but this should help: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=81591
[05:36] <s_spiff> chol, what irc client u using?
[05:36] <aliendream23> still not there
[05:36] <aliendream23> :(
[05:36] <chol> s_spiff, irssi
[05:36] <TooDamFast> how do i add radio stations in rhythmbox?  it defaults with only 5 stations?
[05:36] <fusionxn1> only* sorry its 4:20am x(
[05:36] <dr_willis> epidemik,  go to freshmeat.net and search for benchmarks.. thers dozens of the,m
[05:37] <epidemik> thanks dr_willis
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> hmmm aliendream23 look in that folder /lib/firmware/2.6.....
[05:37] <s_spiff> chol, whenever someone add's a msg to u, it must be getting hilighted?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> hit tab when you get to the .6
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> it should complete the line
[05:37] <LoneElf> So, nobody knows how to set up perl CGI under ubuntu, or where i should go to figure it out?
[05:37] <chol> s_spiff, when you type my nick like you just did, your line stands out from the rest
[05:38] <dr_willis> LoneElf,  i imagine its mentioned in the wiki/forums and perhaps in the !lamp factoid
[05:38] <dr_willis> !lamp
[05:38] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:38] <aliendream23> ok'
[05:38] <s_spiff> chol, what more do you want ? :P
[05:38] <chol> s_spiff, yes, when I get msg, of course, but when speaking here noone uses it and it clutters it all upp
[05:38] <s_spiff> chol, well thats irc for u and me :P
[05:38] <inrelief> is there anyway to utilize opengl with the totem visualizations?
[05:38] <chol> s_spiff, hehe, just trying to educate ;)
[05:38] <LoneElf> thks dr_willis
[05:39] <hlabs> does any one know how can i setup my blue tooth usb device to work with ubuntu
[05:39] <Apostle^> dr_willis, even amarok with xine engine wont play midi
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> aliendream23, look here for top-notch help... well, mostly http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=7023460
[05:40] <s_spiff> chol, well dont try too hard, there are people here who're much more smarter than us i think. hehe.. tc i got to get this flash player sorted out.
[05:40] <chol> Apostle^, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/MIDI-HOWTO-8.html
[05:40] <fusionxn1> Good stuff, VLC plays good old xvid in linux too
[05:40] <Apostle^> chol, thanks
[05:40] <chol> Apostle^, hope it helps
[05:40] <LoneElf> dr_willis: no luck , no info on perl in there... just php
[05:40] <fusionxn1> Is there any software to work with TV Tuners
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:40] <[Ex0r] > fusionxn1- mythtv
[05:41] <TooDamFast> how many people in this channel have been using ubuntu for less than One month?    *tdf raises his left hand*
[05:41] <fusionxn1> Ok, where do i get drivers from
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> personally, i like tvtime if you just want to watch
[05:41] <fusionxn1> its a KWORLD T-100
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > #mythtv-users
[05:41] <lenny> me me
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> !mythtv > fusionxn1
[05:41] <chol> s_spiff, your probably right but it's such a small sacrification and if atleast the one's I try to help start obeying it shold spread out to others :)
[05:42] <Girth> Anyone know of a walkthru for setting up the server edition for the first time?
[05:42] <chol> s_spiff, you were running 64bit?
[05:42] <s_spiff> chol, i am running 64bit
[05:42] <karl> !ati
[05:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:42] <Tonren> Has anyone scripted with Zenity before?
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> i think people should have their platform in their nic
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:43] <fusionxn1> Where can I get Drivers for my TV Tuner - KWORLD dont do linux drivers :(
[05:43] <fusionxn1> And linux X-FI drivers anit out yet
[05:43] <dr_willis> depenbds on the tv tuner for a start. :)
[05:43] <fusionxn1> kworld t-100
[05:43] <dr_willis> yep - no X-fi yet.
[05:43] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know where I can get menumaker from?
[05:43] <knapper_> Is there anyway to preload firefox on gnome startup? like load the process, but hidden..
[05:43] <fusionxn1> Creative said there will be some tho :)
[05:43] <dr_willis> Its possible that tuner may have no linux support at all.. time to hit the GOogle!
[05:44] <fusionxn1> i have lol no luck :(
[05:44] <TooDamFast> how do i browse irc channels with GAIM?  i see where to put in the channel you want but how do you browse, I am a IRC noob.
[05:44] <fusionxn1> dammit
[05:44] <Ithax> Creative said 6 months at least.
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > hmm, can ubuntu burn iso images?
[05:44] <fusionxn1> Ya i know dam creative
[05:44] <nicholaspaul> eXCeSS: yes
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> [Ex0r] , yes
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > !iso
[05:44] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:44] <seeker__> dr_willis: hi bruce :)
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> very simply
[05:44] <nicholaspaul> !menumaker
[05:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about menumaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:44] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, check this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 much simpler.
[05:45] <fusionxn1> s_spiff nice :) And ya i was right tho - 32-bit firefpx needed :)
[05:45] <Asc> when installing a new kernel, should I make a new initrd.img?
[05:45] <chol> s_spiff, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[05:45] <Nekow42> [Ex0r] : Right-clck in Nautilus anc choose "Write to disk"
[05:45] <rougeagle> chol: I could use a small bit more help connecting via pm if you are able
[05:45] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, yup.
[05:45] <nicholaspaul> OK, I'm stuck in Blackbox with no menu. Can someone help?
[05:45] <chol> rougeagle, sure
[05:46] <TooDamFast> that just burns the iso, it doesnt mount it.
[05:46] <Ithax> I've got an ATI Radeon X1900XTX, I'm trying to get dual screens out of it and 1280x1020
[05:46] <s_spiff> hey any1 has a good lan messenger which is based on tcp/ip? i tried ipmsg for linux...sux bigtime!
[05:46] <Frankenstein> hi, when i change my dns server in /etc/resolv they dont seem to work, when i change them in system, admin, networking they change BUT when i run /etc/init.d it says they fail and it goes back to my routers dns
[05:46] <fusionxn1> I may use ubuntu as an OS for everyday stuff and windows for games and TV now i need to find out how to dual boot
[05:46] <TooDamFast> i see way more questions than answers :(
[05:47] <Nekow42> TooDamFast: Sadly, get used to it...
[05:47] <s_spiff> chol, the link you propvided doesnt show u how to install.. check it out
[05:48] <chol> s_spiff, no, it just says that 64bit+flash isn't all that great
[05:48] <TooDamFast> ive been using linux/ubuntu for 3 weeks with no m$ windows.  it gives me a warm fuzzy.
[05:48] <fusionxn1> I wish m$ would let linux run direct 3d and exes - i want my games :'(
[05:48] <rougeagle> chol: thankyou very much, very helpful information
[05:48] <billguedes> hi
[05:48] <fusionxn1> TooDamFast what about games
[05:48] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: seen cedega?
[05:48] <chol> s_spiff, so I guess you need to do some serious googling and stuff to see if you can get it to work and then come back to help others ;)
[05:48] <fusionxn1> Nekow42, ya and a lot of games got problems :(
[05:48] <Cyrus> I love warm fuzzies!
[05:49] <dr_willis> Games are for the Weak!
[05:49] <fusionxn1> LOL
[05:49] <billguedes> who can i make a icon theme for ubuntu:
[05:49] <dr_willis> There is a Native Linux port of Darwinia. :)
[05:49] <chol> rougeagle, hope you get it to work, it works fine with my linksys ap and almost fine at work with cisco, just some handover problems
[05:49] <Nekow42> No-one should need more than NETHACK
[05:49] <TooDamFast> i got ut2004 running today.  little stuttering but i have not yet patched it.  just happy to have an ok fps to play...
[05:49] <fusionxn1> I wish Prey and that would work on ubuntu and my tv tuner + x-fi and windows would be out the window
[05:49] <knapper_> Is there anyway to preload firefox on gnome startup? like load the process, but hidden..
[05:49] <Ithax> Anyone have any experience with dual-headed graphics cards in ubuntu?
[05:50] <Vratha> hi there!
[05:50] <Cyrus> Meow!
[05:50] <Vratha> any of you know what command-line command to run to execute the "Show Desktop Button"?
[05:50] <Vratha> i'm trying to setup a keyboard shortcut in metacity
[05:50] <TooDamFast> i was balls deep in hitman blood money when i wiped/installed linux.  I miss gaming...
[05:51] <fusionxn1> Does the G5 and G15 form logitech got drivers?
[05:51] <Ithax> I guess then, that no one has experience... alright then. I'll wing it.
[05:51] <Vratha> n/m i found it :)
[05:51] <holycow> !nvidia
[05:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <fusionxn1> TooDamFast i would go ubuntu if i could game
[05:51] <dr_willis> the G15 keyboard has some beta drivers out for the LCD. last i looked
[05:51] <fusionxn1> ill go check it out
[05:52] <billguedes> who can i make a icon theme for ubuntu:
[05:52] <Ithax> Before I forget, anyone know why the default fglrx drivers won't work for the x1000 series?
[05:52] <fusionxn1> can only see windows x(
[05:52] <TooDamFast> i see that halflife/counter strike can be played with ubuntu/cedega...   i think that will be my weekend project...
[05:52] <rougeagle> chol: I think my network manager just ruined my connection
[05:52] <bobovski> hi all
[05:52] <Ithax> Steam works yes.
[05:53] <chol> rougeagle, i don't use the gnome tools myself so i don't know about them.. sry
[05:53] <bobovski> any recommendations for a good cd ripper (rip to mp3 preferred). Or, how do I set up lame encoder for sound juicer?
[05:53] <knapper_> Is there anyway to preload firefox on gnome startup? like load the process, but hidden..
[05:53] <rougeagle> chol: kubuntu? or command line?
[05:53] <fusionxn1> DO you gotta pay for cedega?
[05:53] <TooDamFast> ut2004 is ok but i played it for about 1 year...  been playing cs for almost 6 years.
[05:53] <chol> rougeagle, but with wpa_cli you should be able to both scan and add networks
[05:54] <chol> rougeagle, command line, fluxbox
[05:54] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Looks like Prey (demo, at least) works in Cedega
[05:54] <fusionxn1> sweet
[05:54] <TooDamFast> i see vrs of cedega on torrent sites...
[05:54] <holycow> !twinview
[05:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about twinview - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:54] <fusionxn1> TooDamFast ;)
[05:54] <TooDamFast> ;)
[05:54] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: It's technically GPL, so I don't think a torr*ent is piracy
[05:54] <chol> rougeagle, if you put update_config=1 above the network={ section
[05:54] <fusionxn1> Nekow42 - i thought that it costs money though
[05:54] <TooDamFast> how do i browse irc channels with Gaim??
[05:55] <chol> rougeagle, then wpa_gui will modify the file for you when you scanned and double clicked the network you wanyt
[05:55] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: They charge for a support contract, and only give you the CVS code otherwise
[05:55] <weex> TooDamFast: i'd use xchat, though from gaim you can get a channel list from the menus
[05:55] <fusionxn1> Oh, ill give it a bash then
[05:55] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: GPL says nothing about making binaries easy to obtain
[05:55] <bobovski> kaudiocreator isn't recognizing one of my cd drives...how can I fix that?
[05:55] <rougeagle> chol:I don't seem to have the wpa_gui package installed, does it have a different name to call it from the commandline
[05:55] <Senesence> Is there a Linux terminal alternative to the "nslookup" windows xp command line utility?
[05:55] <drt> sup im trying to get wifi in ubuntu with a bcm4318 chip.. all the methods ive found online have not worked
[05:55] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: So, just search BT for a binary
[05:55] <TooDamFast> 800 people in the channel.  6 that speek...
[05:56] <chol> rougeagle, could be another package, i'll check
[05:56] <weex> Senesence: dig is supposed to be the official replacement
[05:56] <fusionxn1> Nekow42 you mean  CEDEGA
[05:56] <Nekow42> TooDamFast: Welcome to the land of the idle....
[05:56] <TooDamFast> ....
[05:56] <billguedes> who can i make a icon theme for ubuntu:
[05:56] <Senesence> weex: how do I use dig?
[05:56] <chol> !info wpagui > rougeagle
[05:56] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 204 kB
[05:56] <inrelief> i ain't idle.  really!
[05:56] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: yes, like I said, being GPL, i wouldn't call it piracy
[05:56] <drt> so has anyone gotten wifi in ubuntu working with the 4318 broadcom chip
[05:56] <TooDamFast> if i could browse other channels with gaim..  i would be idle too...
[05:56] <fusionxn1> Right on!
[05:56] <chol> rougeagle, install that package
[05:56] <weex> Senesence: hell if i know...i just know that nslookup tells me it's deprecated and that i should use dig
[05:57] <fusionxn1> Linux.Ubuntu FTW
[05:57] <Nekow42> TooDamFast: Ever played IdleRPG?
[05:57] <TooDamFast> lol.  no.
[05:57] <inrelief> cedega isn't GPL.
[05:57] <TooDamFast> sounds fun
[05:57] <fusionxn1> inrelief we know :)
[05:57] <inrelief> ah
[05:57] <inrelief> jumped in late
[05:57] <flodine> anyone able to update kernel to 2.6 17?
[05:57] <inrelief> haha
[05:57] <TooDamFast> cedega $$  monthly..
[05:57] <inrelief> fuggit
[05:57] <inrelief> yeh
[05:57] <Nekow42> inrelief: Everything but their Directx code is
[05:57] <chol> weex, use host, it's as simple as nslookup
[05:57] <fusionxn1> TooDamFast for most people
[05:57] <Nekow42> inrelief: You can get the whole caboodle in source off their CVS
[05:58] <dr_willis> i hear the wine support of DirectX is getting very good also.
[05:58] <weex> ok Senesence use host it's as simple as nslookup
[05:58] <Nekow42> dr_willis: I was almost able to play GTA-VC in plain wine...
[05:58] <bobovski> ok, that's definitely a problem. I think /dev/cdrom is pointed towards the wrong device...
[05:58] <fusionxn1> Well its 5am here lol im going 10 mins. I may wak linux on just my tv tuner / x-fi and games wont work
[05:58] <TooDamFast> how bout in wine?
[05:58] <skeeziks> Is anyone aware of a good Kopete 0.12.1 .deb for Kubuntu?
[05:58] <TooDamFast> cedega?
[05:58] <dr_willis> Nekow42,  heh - it ran at 2x speed when i tried it in cedega.
[05:58] <TooDamFast> sorry.
[05:58] <dr_willis> Nekow42,  now  that made it much harder.
[05:59] <billguedes> who can i make a icon theme for ubuntu:
[05:59] <inrelief> Nekow42, yeah, I remember when gentoo took the cvs out of portage, b/c it was just-too-easy to compile, thus defeating transgaming's liscense
[05:59] <fusionxn1> chol is a mad man
[05:59] <rougeagle> chol: I got the connection back, but it keeps dropping periodically, is this known to be a problem of on computer software configurations?
[05:59] <dr_willis> billguedes,  theres oooodles of then you can download for gnome and kde.
[05:59] <Nekow42> dr_willis: Ran fine both ways here... wine had some lighting issues and didn't hook the mouse properly....
[05:59] <chol> rougeagle, what access point?
[05:59] <chol> rougeagle, the cisco one at work has exactly the same problem
[05:59] <chol> ones*
[05:59] <fusionxn1> Didnt microsoft get forced to release its code?
[05:59] <TooDamFast> still cant get my m$ explorer 7 button mouse to work right...
[06:00] <rougeagle> chol: a belkin54g routher
[06:00] <TooDamFast> thumb buttons are a pain in the arse...
[06:00] <dr_willis> I cant ever rember to use the extra buttons. :)
[06:00] <rougeagle> b/g I mean
[06:00] <chol> rougeagle, hm, dunno any specifics about that one but wpa support is quite new
[06:00] <billguedes> dr_willis, i would make a new icon theme.
[06:00] <weex> can we all agree that 2 buttons and a wheel are all we need?
[06:00] <dr_willis> billguedes,  so.... go make one then? :)
[06:00] <fusionxn1> I'm running ubuntu in vmware right now. How fast is vmware on ubuntu? I wanan use photoshop cs 2 on it
[06:00] <Nekow42> weex: If I was a Mac nut, I'd say that was too many
[06:00] <dr_willis> weex,  i can rember when we dident need no wheel!
[06:01] <Nekow42> I don't have a wheel
[06:01] <rougeagle> chol: the router is 2 years old, so it is probably likely that it is a router support problem then huh?
[06:01] <weex> that wheel is super sexy
[06:01] <chol> rougeagle, there's lots of google hits on "belkin54g wpa linux"
[06:01] <Nekow42> Trackball here, so no wheel
[06:01] <weex> quel dommage
[06:01] <fusionxn1> Anyone using VMWARE on ubuntu?
[06:02] <chol> rougeagle, but belking54g can't be the product/model?
[06:02] <billguedes> dr_willis, because my client would like a ubuntu customized.
[06:02] <weex> what do people use to watch divx or xvid?
[06:02] <TooDamFast> fusionxn1  just format and install ubuntu...
[06:02] <rougeagle> chol: no, but it is a general description of it
[06:02] <fusionxn1> TooDamFast - heh, i would but a lot of things dont work
[06:02] <Klowner> weex: vlc, mplayer, or sometimes totem
[06:02] <Senesence> Resizing my windows on the desktop is very choppy, how do I fix this?
[06:03] <TooDamFast> if they dont work... you dont need them.
[06:03] <chol> rougeagle, try adding fast_reauth before the network={ stanza
[06:03] <chol> rougeagle, fast_reauth=1
[06:03] <weex> Klowner: sounds like fun...guess i'll give the trio a shot
[06:03] <fusionxn1> TooDamFast My sound card, TV Tuner, Photoshop
[06:03] <jesspher> does anybody here think that asus n6600 graphics card is good
[06:03] <fusionxn1> Whens ubuntu 6.1 due?
[06:03] <rougeagle> chol: what will that do?
[06:03] <TooDamFast> sound is over rated....  (no one has told me how to add stations to rhythmbox...)
[06:03] <jesspher> does anybody here know why firefox downloads the old version of flash?
[06:04] <Klowner> jesspher: old being version 7?
[06:04] <rougeagle> chol: oh yeah, because the key gets reissued w/ tkip right?
[06:04] <fusionxn1> jess only 7.0 is for linux right now
[06:04] <billguedes> dr_willis, are you know make a icon theme:
[06:04] <fusionxn1> 9.0 is coming 2007
[06:04] <jesspher> yes
[06:04] <chol> rougeagle, yes, I believe so
[06:04] <Senesence> Is anyone experiencing slow performance, when resizing windows?
[06:04] <fusionxn1> That answer you? :)
[06:04] <jesspher> cause flah is now on version 9
[06:04] <fusionxn1> Ya for windows
[06:04] <Klowner> Senesence: disable opaque window resizing maybe?
[06:05] <Nekow42> 9.0 is coming early 2007, with a preview release expected in oct 06
[06:05] <fusionxn1> Linux = 2007 beta end of year
[06:05] <chol> rougeagle, there is this thing ap_scan=2 also, don't remember exacly what it does though..
[06:05] <fusionxn1> nek, too right
[06:05] <ubuntu> Hey
[06:05] <chol> rougeagle, read about it and it sounded right to have it in the config
[06:05] <Senesence> Klowner: how, link to instructions if you know plz.
[06:05] <ubuntu> i got a bit of a prob here
[06:05] <jesspher> do you guys know how to install the latest version of flash on ubuntu?
[06:05] <ubuntu> something wrong with my pc
[06:05] <ubuntu> please
[06:05] <crimsun> chol: means 'search' for 'hidden ssids'
[06:05] <fusionxn1> So does people here think Ubuntu is the best linux ?
[06:05] <holycow> there is no such thing
[06:05] <dr_willis> fusionxn1,  i would guess yes. :P for their needs
[06:06] <fusionxn1> jess i dont tihnk you can it doesnt have 9.0 yet
[06:06] <ubuntu> I get a blue screen of death
[06:06] <jesspher> does ubuntu have a checkdisk
[06:06] <chol> crimsun, thanks :)
[06:06] <Klowner> Senesence: aah, I don't have Gnome in front of me, I'll look
[06:06] <ubuntu> :(
[06:06] <Nekow42> ubuntu: In IRC, never ask to ask, just ask
[06:06] <holycow> it is basically debian with lots of elbow grease thanks to some generous funding
[06:06] <fusionxn1> dr_ does it do everything linux has to offer?
[06:06] <Dev05> ubuntu, What is it?
[06:06] <holycow> nothing special, just damn fun
[06:06] <ubuntu> i get a blue screen of death
[06:06] <holycow> fusionxn1, linux is just a kernel
[06:06] <chol> rougeagle, there you have it, if you have hidden ssid it's a good idea to have it there
[06:06] <ubuntu> error code 0x000000ed
[06:06] <holycow> fusionxn1, all the tools available here are available on ALL distros
[06:06] <Nekow42> ubuntu: How? You mean, kernel panic?
[06:06] <Senesence> Klowner: sorry to bother you, but I'm so new.
[06:06] <fusionxn1> holycow, i know but people say ubuntu is not for them - i wanna know why
[06:06] <flodine> fusionxn1 what do think is the best linux
[06:06] <ubuntu> no
[06:06] <jesspher> does anybody know if ubuntu have a checkdisk
[06:06] <Dev05> ubuntu, lol In Linux?
[06:06] <ubuntu> it's in windows
[06:06] <holycow> fusionxn1, its not a question of can it do x y z, its a question of does it do anything for you
[06:07] <holycow> fusionxn1, ask them
[06:07] <ubuntu> when booting
[06:07] <fusionxn1> flodine ubuntu and kubuntu form what ive tried
[06:07] <Dev05> ubuntu, UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME Eh?
[06:07] <ubuntu> yeah
[06:07] <ubuntu> :(
[06:07] <holycow> for me, ubuntu is perfect
[06:07] <Dev05> ubuntu, Can we use PM better?
[06:07] <jesspher> hey
[06:07] <fusionxn1> hp;ycow, linux feels a lot smoother to windows shame not everything works
[06:07] <Nekow42> holycow: Agreed, me too
[06:07] <ubuntu> yeah sure
[06:07] <fusionxn1> I cant install 7-zip though
[06:07] <ubuntu> pm me
[06:07] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: It's easy to install 7z\
[06:08] <flodine> fusionxn1 im here tring to find a reason to come back to ubuntu
[06:08] <fusionxn1> i tried it gives me an error
[06:08] <jesspher> anybody know how to have a wmv plugin for totem player?
[06:08] <flodine> fusionxn1 but cant find one
[06:08] <rougeagle> chol: do you use wpa, and if so, do you use fast reauth?
[06:08] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: What kind of error?
[06:08] <chol> rougeagle, yes and yes
[06:08] <Klowner> Senesence: try gconf-editor
[06:08] <fusionxn1> flodine - im a newbie but have tried other linux and ubuntu is the most user friendly in my book. And not like windows doesnt think your a dumbass
[06:08] <holycow> fusionxn1, well you haveto understand what 'everything works' actually means
[06:09] <fusionxn1> nek i cant remember but it wouldnt install i tried a RPM is thats correct
[06:09] <Klowner> Senesence: then navigate to /apps/metacity/general
[06:09] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: umm, sorry, no.
[06:09] <Madpilot> fusionxn1, Ubuntu doesn't use RPM
[06:09] <holycow> fusionxn1, for example, yo uhaveto know that dvds are encrypted, and when you buy a cd player yo upay a fee to the software company that includes the dvd player company AND a fee to the dvd consortium
[06:09] <fusionxn1> Thats why
[06:09] <Klowner> Senesence: then tick the little reduced_resources item, that should enable wireframe resizing
[06:09] <odin> what's a good program for burning disc images?
[06:09] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Add the extra repositories and apt-get 7za
[06:09] <rougeagle> chol: are there any linux applications that could interfere w/ the wpa connection that you know of?
[06:09] <fusionxn1> holycow ??
[06:09] <holycow> fusionxn1, did you know it is illegal in some countries to unscramble the dvd legally?
[06:09] <fusionxn1> Yes
[06:09] <jjjjjjj> does anyone know how to turn on the numlock for  a macintosh keyboard?
[06:09] <fusionxn1> Whats your point?
[06:10] <flodine> fusionxn1 everyones in to the package manager thats all if you had to do it the old way ubuntu would be just like all the rest
[06:10] <fusionxn1> 1 mo ill grab 7-zip
[06:10] <Nekow42> holycow: "The law is a ass, a idiot" --at least, the DMCA is
[06:10] <holycow> fusionxn1, right.  so you pay for the dvd, you pay for the RIGHT to be able to play the dvd, its a scam in other words.  thus you haveto BUY a dvd player for linux, you cannot legally use free players actually
[06:10] <chol> rougeagle, no not really.. it works perfect at home and disconnects at work so I'm thinking it's more of a access point problem
[06:10] <jjjjjjj> got ubuntu live cd running on  a G4
[06:10] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, chol i got flash working...neat howto..
[06:10] <chol> s_spiff, sweet man!
[06:10] <fusionxn1> s_spiff glad
[06:11] <Senesence> Klowner: ahh, I see, but is there a way to have this thing use hardware acceleration? Because I want to keep all the best quality settings.
[06:11] <fusionxn1> madcow: so i cant use FREE software on ubuntu
[06:11] <ubuntu> Dev05, wait..register
[06:11] <ubuntu> ;s
[06:11] <Klowner> Senesence: ah, well.. what graphics card?
[06:11] <holycow> fusionxn1, so the point in that example of how the market is hosing customers ... so yo ucan play dvds provided you pay the dvd cartel a fee via dvd player software to be legal
[06:11] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, chol do u know any porgram that will play .flv [ flash videos ]  files?
[06:11] <odin> does anybody know any good programs for burning disc image .iso's?
[06:11] <holycow> fusionxn1, same with mp3's actually, mp3 is patented, yo ucannot legally play it back without a player that has paid for the 'right' to play mp3's
[06:11] <Senesence> Klowner: Ha, ha. A GeForce 2 MX/MX 400, is that too low end?
[06:11] <Nekow42> odin: Right-click in Nautilus, click "write to disk"
[06:11] <Pawn> d
[06:12] <TooDamFast> odin  ...  umm..  right click copy to disk...
[06:12] <chol> s_spiff, i think mplayer might actually do that but i'm not really a friend of flash
[06:12] <fusionxn1> holycow: MAN that sucks i  break the law then
[06:12] <holycow> fusionxn1, and on and on .. they whole marketplace is basically setup to screw the windows customer they just don't know it
[06:12] <Klowner> Senesence: no that's fine
[06:12] <jesspher> is p2p illegal
[06:12] <[Ex0r] > can ubuntu-server setup RAID systems with two or more HDD's in a system ?
[06:12] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: SHH... (me too)
[06:12] <s_spiff> chol, ok thnx will try
[06:12] <TooDamFast> jessper.. no...
[06:12] <odin> TooDamFast, oh it's built-in?  cool
[06:12] <holycow> fusionxn1, yeah mostly it doesn't matter, its just the legal point,  you want to play mp3's but unless you do it right, you are correct. you break the law in a lot of places
[06:12] <holycow> :/
[06:12] <fusionxn1> holycow: by windows do you mean microsoft windows
[06:12] <holycow> fusionxn1, yes.
[06:12] <jesspher> so it is legal to just download whatever files you want from p2p
[06:12] <Nekow42> jesspher: no, p2p is legal, but banned for discussion in this room o-O
[06:12] <Klowner> Senesence: there should be a howto somewhere for getting nvidia drivers installed and working
[06:12] <TooDamFast> one of the few bonuses of ubuntu..
[06:12] <billguedes> who can i make a icon theme for ubuntu:
[06:13] <jesspher> ok
[06:13] <s_spiff> chol, yup worked
[06:13] <s_spiff>  thnxc
[06:13] <fusionxn1> holycow: i know the ONLY media center codec that is APPROVED is the nvidia one that costs
[06:13] <Senesence> Klowner: I already enabled hardware acceleration with my nvidia card.
[06:13] <Nekow42> Klowner: Easyubuntu does NVIDIA for u
[06:13] <holycow> fusionxn1, so the point i'm kinda illustrating is, that its NOT that it doesn't work on linux its that USUALLY there is a SCAM in place that prevents things from working smoothly from one perspective or another
[06:13] <chol> s_spiff, great!
[06:13] <fusionxn1> holycow: I dont want to sound liek a dum ass but what are you saying? That linux is free but the apps anit?
[06:14] <holycow> fusionxn1, indeed, the whole intellectual property thing is a whole scam perpetrated by lawyers since the intellectual property cartel has been created in the 60's.
[06:14] <Klowner> Senesence: ah, well then. Get a faster computer, or disable opaque resizing, ooooor just live with it
[06:14] <prophet> is there a eject command for the cd tray
[06:14] <holycow> fusionxn1, linux is free but the media you buy has a whole lot of 'strings' attached
[06:14] <Klowner> Senesence: I use fluxbox and I always disable opaque resizing since it always bothers me
[06:14] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: It's more like, Linux is free, but if the apps aint, then trouble brews
[06:14] <fusionxn1> holycow: so even tho apps for linux usually are free legally they are not?
[06:14] <jesspher> is there really much difference on agp 8x with pci-e 16x
[06:14] <Tracker1> is there a way to restore dapper to the release version libraries/setup without killing a profile folder on the hd?
[06:14] <[Ex0r] > prophet- yeah, a paperclip in the emergency eject hole
[06:14] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: well, libdvdcss is the only illegal one
[06:14] <holycow> fusionxn1, i will hopefully one day put together a site that illustrates what the strings actually are, because its a scam of gargantuan proportions
[06:14] <prophet> i dont have one or feel like looking for one
[06:14] <prophet> ill tak ie out next time i reboot
[06:15] <Senesence> Klowner: Ha , ha. Ok, thanks for your help, I'll research this some more.
[06:15] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: downloading libdvdcss is legal, USING it is not
[06:15] <redcard> fusionxn1: Legal and illegal are very hard to define when it comes to an international distribution
[06:15] <holycow> fusionxn1, correct ... because of patents, copyrights, dmc in the us, etc.
[06:15] <Klowner> Senesence: it's usually GTK that seems crappy at redrawing itself, I dunno :)
[06:15] <[Ex0r] > so nobody answered me
[06:15] <fuoco> can i file a bug for a version bump ? or is it not appropriate in ubuntu ?
[06:15] <fusionxn1> holycow: WO so free software liek winamp forsay is illegal then even tho its legal to download?
[06:15] <redcard> For example.. in some areas, libdvdcss is completely legal, because it's considered fair use.  In others, it is not.
[06:15] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: No...
[06:16] <holycow> fusionxn1, winamp paid the mp3 cartel a fee to allow it to play mp3's legally
[06:16] <jesspher> who invented linux anyways
[06:16] <Senesence> Klowner: Yea, I'm sure someone made a hack to make it faster though. If it's out there, i'll find it;)
[06:16] <fusionxn1> So free programs THAT DIDNT are illegal?
[06:16] <holycow> fusion its not illegal to download, it would be illegal to play mp3's if they didn't pay a fine to the mp3 consortium
[06:16] <holycow> fusionxn1, a nice company actually p;aid the fee on our behalf recently btw to be able to pay mp3's
[06:16] <holycow> i forget their name i can find it later
[06:16] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Most MP3 playing programs don't actually play mp3s, they just use an mp3 backend. Like, all windows mp3 players used some dll, i forget, but it came with windows
[06:17] <Tracker1> holycow, afaik, the mp3 people don't charge for players, only encoders.
[06:17] <holycow> so mp3's should be legally supported now
[06:17] <redcard> Tracker's correct
[06:17] <hlabs> does ubuntu have any software that would work with PSP
[06:17] <holycow> fusionxn1, but dvd decoding has not been paid for and i don't know of a sinlge linux player that hais paid the dvd player fee
[06:17] <holycow> Tracker1, decoders too
[06:17] <Sarra_> Is it possible to run i386 wine using a dchroot on AMD64 Ubuntu?
[06:17] <Nekow42> holycow: There is a legal one, but it's only in CNR
[06:17] <fusionxn1> holycow: linux is a OS thats ment to free people correct?
[06:18] <holycow> Nekow42, ah okay.
[06:18] <Tracker1> holycow, fair enough, but every dvd drive (for the most part) did have software/payment associated with it, so it's BS
[06:18] <fusionxn1> Linux is free also
[06:18] <fusionxn1> ANyone help me install 7-ZIP
[06:18] <fusionxn1> its a bugger
[06:18] <holycow> fusionxn1, correct, not free as in 'you didn't pay for it' but freedom as in 'you are free to use it as you like'
[06:18] <holycow> fusionxn1, you can charge for it all you like
[06:18] <Tracker1> back to my earlier question, is there a way to restore a dapper install without nuking the profile/home directory for my user account?
[06:18] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Yes, but if something is considered a "secret" like DVD encryption, it can't be "free"
[06:18] <fusionxn1> holycow: BINGO like linspire
[06:19] <jesspher> can anybody help with installing a wmv plugin for totem video player
[06:19] <jesspher> please help
[06:19] <s_spiff> any1 gets that stoopid error when starting azureus 'azureus didnt shutdown tidily....'!! everytime i get it, even if i shut it down properly the last time! and the damn thing doesnt go!
[06:19] <Sarra_> jesspher: I've been trying to do that myself for the past 3 days
[06:19] <redcard> Again.. let's state that there are different laws in different areas
[06:19] <Tracker1> jesspher, search for Automatix ...
[06:19] <holycow> fusionxn1, lol except the funny thing is, things you haveto pay for suck and say things like ubuntu that are free are great
[06:19] <Nekow42> jesspher: Easyubuntu is 4 u
[06:19] <fusionxn1> nek, what do you mean
[06:19] <holycow> well ubuntu isn't exactly free, mark shuttleworth spends 10 million a year on it ... so its more like a gift
[06:19] <Madpilot> Tracker1, please don't recommend autobreakitz here
[06:19] <jesspher> tracker, you mean on google?
[06:19] <fusionxn1> ubuntu has been really worked on and it shows
[06:19] <holycow> but mark is a smart cookie he will find a way to make money on it
[06:19] <redcard> Ubuntu is free.
[06:19] <Tracker1> Madpilot, was the only way I could get wmv to work..
[06:20] <redcard> If Mark didn't do it, someone else could.  I can take it and rebrand most of it and resell it
[06:20] <fusionxn1> Ubuntus cds are free also
[06:20] <holycow> ubuntu isn't free ... it just seems that way because a very rich dude pays the  bills
[06:20] <holycow> don't be fooled
[06:20] <fusionxn1> i recently got a couple and their great
[06:20] <Artifical> ubuntu will not install on a drive that was password protected
[06:20] <redcard> I'm not fooled.
[06:20] <Madpilot> Tracker1, then you didn't read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:20] <holycow> if debian, the biggest distro on the planet couldn't polish up the desktop ... it most certainly isn't free
[06:20] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: DVD encryption is secret, or supposed to be. Thus it can't be free (as in freedom) and thus it clashes with Linux at a philisophical level.
[06:20] <Artifical> should the install clear the drive?
[06:20] <redcard> Debian isn't made for desktops, though.
[06:20] <jesspher> can anybody help me with installing wmv codec for totem
[06:20] <redcard> Debian is made to be stable
[06:20] <jesspher> please help
[06:20] <fusionxn1> Nek, like dvd decrypter is free but they got taken to court
[06:20] <holycow> redcard, debian is made for everything
[06:20] <Madpilot> holycow, redcard & others - please take the non-tech-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[06:21] <Nekow42> !easyubuntu >jesspher
[06:21] <fusionxn1> ANyone help me install 7-ZIP
[06:21] <Klowner> holycow: that's debatable.. most debian developers are purists to a fault, and it results in some stagnation on the progressive front
[06:21] <redcard> Madpilot: Kay.
[06:21] <jesspher> huh?
[06:21] <holycow> redcard, debian can be a fantastic desktop, its just a matter of what you define as a desktop
[06:21] <[Ex0r] > does ubuntu allow for software RAID ?
[06:21] <[Ex0r] > !raid
[06:21] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:21] <holycow> Klowner, not debatable at all, ubuntu is purist as well, ubuntu shuffles the morally wrong stuff into separate repositories like debian
[06:21] <redcard> holycow: My last comment on this.  I was a debian devel at one time.  It was made to be stable first, and other things second.
[06:21] <Nekow42> jesspher: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[06:21] <fusionxn1> Please, anyone help me with 7-zip
[06:22] <jesspher> but i already have ubuntu installed
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > what about it, fusionxn1 ?
[06:22] <Nekow42> You want the item called "Binary codecs"
[06:22] <redcard> fusionxn1: Can't rar do 7z?
[06:22] <holycow> redcard, hey cool that you were a dd, stability is indeed more important then whatever the definition of a 'desktop' might be.
[06:22] <fusionxn1> i got it downloaded and extracted to the desktop but where do i go from there it has a  install.sh
[06:22] <Nekow42> jesspher: go to the easyubuntu page and look at the screnshot
[06:22] <Tracker1> Madpilot, didn't find that page.. came accrossed a bunch of things I tried before auto...
[06:22] <SagaciousKJB> So, I tried installing ubuntu, and that's my story.  "Tried".  The percentage meter hasn't budged in 30 minutes.
[06:22] <jesspher> ok
[06:23] <jesspher> what does easyubuntu do tho
[06:23] <redcard> fusionxn1: Why not sudo apt-get install p7zip ?
[06:23] <fusionxn1> holycow: winrar anit free but 7-zip and others allow the use to extract ,rar does what does that mean
[06:23] <Nekow42> jesspher: Install Easyubuntu, put a check mark next to free codecs and binary codecs....
[06:23] <Tracker1> SagaciousKJB, I had to use the "alternate" cd to get install to work for me.
[06:23] <holycow> fusionxn1, well the whole thing is abotu copyrights, patents and ... whats the third one?
[06:23] <fuoco> can i file a bug for a version bump ? or is it not appropriate in ubuntu ?
[06:23] <[Ex0r] > !iso
[06:23] <SagaciousKJB> Anyone know what my problem may be?  So far, it seems like my harddrives just won't mount; the only one that I could even read was my MP3 player's harddrive.
[06:23] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:24] <Nekow42> jesspher: If you don't want to do that, VLC is a multimedia player that has WMV support built in
[06:24] <SagaciousKJB> So the Alternate CD is still good?
[06:24] <mikebot> anyone here using ubuntu with sbcis as your isp?
[06:24] <holycow> if its patented or copyrighted you cannot use it without the authors permission
[06:24] <jesspher> how do i install easyubuntu
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > alright, after I mount the ISO, how do I burn it to a cd ?
[06:24] <fusionxn1> hmm
[06:24] <holycow> if rar lets you 'unrar' files then its fine, if they charge you for it it's not
[06:24] <SagaciousKJB> Hmm...  Well, that's a little difficult.  Ubuntu is the only OS I have, and it runs off a CD; so how could I burn a CD of the alternative disc?
[06:24] <chol> [Ex0r] , you don't mount an iso to burn it
[06:24] <fusionxn1> redcard it says 0 installed
[06:24] <jesspher> how do i install easyubuntu
[06:24] <jesspher> help
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > than how do you burn it ?
[06:24] <Nekow42> jesspher: it tells you here
[06:24] <mikebot> anyone using ubuntu on a pppoe connection?
[06:24] <Nekow42> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[06:24] <chol> [Ex0r] , or with nautilus perhaps, i don't know about that one
[06:24] <dr_willis> I like k3b for my burning needs
[06:25] <Artifical> <--- rahter shot myself in the head then have sbc as a isp
[06:25] <redcard> fusionxn1: It shouldn't say that.
[06:25] <dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[06:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:25] <redcard> You  did sudo apt-get install p7zip ?
[06:25] <fusionxn1> p7zip is already the newest version
[06:25] <fusionxn1> i cant see it to launch it
[06:25] <mikebot> anyone know anytthing about pppoe?
[06:25] <jesspher> i don't get it, can you just tell me step by step
[06:25] <chol> [Ex0r] , ctrl-l and type burn:/// for that one, then you could just dragndrop the files from the mounted is there, but it wont be bootable
[06:25] <redcard> fusionxn1: man p7a
[06:25] <dr_willis> !pppoe
[06:25] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:26] <Madpilot> jesspher, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for getting media stuff running
[06:26] <Nekow42> jesspher: okay, lemme walk you through...
[06:26] <redcard> fusionxn1: The executable's name is p7a
[06:26] <jesspher> ok
[06:26] <fusionxn1> p7zip is already the newest version
[06:26] <Artifical> install to a password protect drive? help plz!
[06:26] <jesspher> thanks
[06:26] <crimsun> fusionxn1: (in dapper. in edgy it's 7zr.)
[06:26] <[Ex0r] > fusionxn1- run 7z
[06:26] <chol> [Ex0r] , nice --18 cdrecord -eject -v -data -pad -tao speed=24 dev=/dev/CDROMDEVICE driveropts=burnfree /path/to/iso or use some gnome app :)
[06:26] <Nekow42> jesspher: Go to this page, keep the browser window open in the background... You'll need to reference it.
[06:26] <Nekow42> jesspher: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[06:26] <fusionxn1> command not found
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[06:27] <jesspher> ok, im on the webpage now
[06:27] <fusionxn1> No manual entry for p7a
[06:27] <fusionxn1> x( ahh!
[06:27] <fusionxn1> im going crazy
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > fusionxn1- which one gave you command not found ?
[06:27] <Nekow42> jesspher: Next, go to the "Applications" menu, and click "accessories/terminal"
[06:27] <fusionxn1> man p7a
[06:27] <aliendream23> how do i gain permissions to write to my firmware folder???
[06:27] <fusionxn1> oh no run 7z
[06:27] <mikebot> anyone using pppoe?
[06:27] <jesspher> nekov: im on the terminal now
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > fusionxn1- it's just 7z
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > 7z x file.7z
[06:28] <s_spiff> hey i just edited the fstab... will restarting gnome by ctrl+alt+backspace mount the hdd i just added to fstab?
[06:28] <fusionxn1> command still not found
[06:28] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  no
[06:28] <redcard> fusionxn1: For some odd reason, there's no man page for it.
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > than it appears you don't have 7zip installed :)
[06:28] <chol> s_spiff, nah, you need to do mount /path/to/mountpoint
[06:28] <baconbacon> aliendream23: if you know what youre doing, be root
[06:28] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  it also depends on what you did to the fstab
[06:28] <fusionxn1> dammit what i do
[06:28] <Nekow42> look at the brownish oragish box on the web page, under where it says "Copy paste the code below to get and run EasyUbuntu."
[06:28] <redcard> [Ex0r] : And yet apt-get says he does
[06:28] <aliendream23> I am very new to linux
[06:29] <fusionxn1> alien same here
[06:29] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: If you've installed 7zip, fileroller should support it
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > did you try sudo apt-get remove p7zip && apt-get install p7zip
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > ?
[06:29] <jesspher> im on the terminal now
[06:29] <mikebot> any response is ok...anything
[06:29] <mikebot> anyone know what pppoe stands for
[06:29] <chol> fusionxn1, dpkg -L p7zip|grep bin
[06:29] <fusionxn1> nek it does open 7z :)
[06:29] <aliendream23> trying to use bcm43xx-fwcutter and it wont extract to the firmware folder, so i tried to just drag and drop and it wont let me
[06:29] <s_spiff> dr_willis, umm i added this : /dev/hda	/media/80GB	ntfs	defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:29] <Nekow42> jesspher: copy and paste each line from the first orange mox on the web page into the terminal, and press enter after each line
[06:29] <baconbacon> what is the firmware folder
[06:29] <Nekow42> *boxc
[06:29] <s_spiff> dr_willis, hda is my master 80gb hdd, one partitoons ntfs...
[06:30] <Nekow42> *box (arrgh)
[06:30] <fusionxn1> chol done
[06:30] <fusionxn1> /usr/bin
[06:30] <fusionxn1> /usr/bin/7z
[06:30] <fusionxn1> /usr/bin/7za
[06:30] <redcard> fusionxn1: and if that doesn't work.. sudo apt-get install -reinstall p7zip
[06:30] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  sudo mount /media/80GB  will mount it.
[06:30] <chol> fusionxn1, that should show you the name of the binary, and there you are :)
[06:30] <s_spiff> dr_willis, the endtried for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th coulnm ..i just copy pasted it from above
[06:30] <s_spiff> dr_willis, but it wont mount it at boot right?
[06:31] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  it should auto mount
[06:31] <redcard> fusionxn1: Where are you or how are you running it?
[06:31] <Nekow42> jesspher: after the last one, it should ask you for your password
[06:31] <fusionxn1> I cant find the app - does it have an APP like windows?
[06:31] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  thats what the noauto option is for. :P
[06:31] <redcard> Nope
[06:31] <fusionxn1> x( well it works then
[06:31] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: well, yes
[06:31] <s_spiff> dr_willis, by adding noauto it will or will not mount?
[06:31] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: FileRoller IS the app
[06:31] <redcard> It's not going to be graphical, fusionxn1
[06:31] <dr_willis> !mount
[06:31] <fusionxn1> well the archieve manager supports 7z
[06:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:32] <viyyer> hello
[06:32] <Nekow42> Ahoy
[06:32] <fusionxn1> sorry i got confussed so i guess its working
[06:32] <s_spiff> dr_willis, thanks
[06:32] <fusionxn1> Whats the best app for ubuntu for IRC
[06:32] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  its time to read the mount man pages and the fstab man pages. :P and google for some mounting tutorials.. its worth the effort to learn this stiff  VERY well. :)
[06:32] <fusionxn1> SOmething lik i-n-v-i-s-i-o-n for mirc
[06:32] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: irsii, but be prepared to learn it
[06:32] <dr_willis> s_spiff, http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:32] <fusionxn1> nek, what do you mean
[06:32] <jesspher> should i copy even the web adress
[06:32] <Pawn> Dev05, i fixed it man
[06:32] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: I meant irssi, sorry
[06:32] <Pawn> thakns alot
[06:32] <Paladine> anyone know why my friend has no keyboards listed in system>preferences>keyboard>Layouts
[06:33] <Dev05> fusionxnl, I like X-Chat.
[06:33] <Paladine> he has a keyboard layout
[06:33] <Paladine> but the keyboard is listed as unknown
[06:33] <s_spiff> dr_willis, thnx.. doing tht..till then i'll reboot and check if my exp. worked :P
[06:33] <s_spiff> brb ppl
[06:33] <fusionxn1> using x-chat
[06:33] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Using chatzilla firefox extension right now
[06:33] <Paladine> and there are non in the browser list
[06:33] <redcard> Konversation's pretty nice
[06:33] <fusionxn1> http://www.irssi.org/ ?
[06:33] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: yes
[06:33] <viyyer> my dapper live CD doesn't seem to display any of my hard-disk partitions , I tried check using fdisk ,cfdisk, gparted and parted
[06:33] <fusionxn1> what i do now
[06:33] <redcard> fusionxn1: or sudo apt-get install irssi
[06:33] <fusionxn1> download tar.gz/
[06:34] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: irssi is hard, though...
[06:34] <viyyer> has anyone experienced a similar problem ?
[06:34] <fusionxn1> nek., why
[06:34] <jesspher> thanks nekow42
[06:34] <redcard> fusionxn1: Aww, don't download it there.  Make it easy :) It's in Ubuntu already
[06:34] <jesspher> thanks for your help
[06:34] <dr_willis> viyyer,  ya got to run fdisk and such as root with sudo
[06:34] <redcard> fusionxn1: Just type this: sudo apt-get install irssi
[06:34] <fusionxn1> redcard it says already installed
[06:34] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: You need to learn, in Ubuntu, you NEVER get the program from the website if you can get it off of apt or synaptic
[06:34] <redcard> Then just type 'irssi' in the termina
[06:35] <fusionxn1> Nek how do you know if u can get the app
[06:35] <ttyfscker> anybody know how to get xmms::remote on ubuntu?
[06:35] <farous> !dma
[06:35] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[06:35] <fusionxn1> holy crap im not using this lol
[06:35] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: A nice gui is at system/admin/synaptic
[06:35] <fusionxn1> ill stick with X-Chat lol
[06:35] <redcard> fusionxn1: Hehe :)
[06:35] <redcard> fusionxn1: irssi is VERY powerful.  If you have it set up right
[06:35] <lumgwada> his I'm using breezy atm ... just wondering is evolution on dapper > 2.6
[06:35] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: search synaptic for any package you want to install\
[06:36] <carthik> is there a seperate channel for amd64 users?
[06:36] <ttyfscker> xchat is very powerful too if you have it set up right
[06:36] <ttyfscker> haha
[06:36] <fusionxn1> nek like 7zip?
[06:36] <Redcard2> But.. that can take a bit of experience ;)
[06:36] <fusionxn1> ttyf - :p
[06:36] <dr_willis> The new and improved Xchat! with even less features!
[06:36] <viyyer> dr_willis, but gparted runs with sudo or similar ??
[06:36] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Yes, 7zip is in there. It'll be listed as instsalled, though
[06:36] <ttyfscker> a gui to irscii?
[06:36] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Try out synaptic
[06:36] <dr_willis> viyyer,  never noticed.. I tend to do my fdisking needs with a small live cd that just runs them as root :)
[06:36] <ttyfscker> oh
[06:37] <fusionxn1> nek i did and it crashes a lot
[06:37] <ttyfscker> synaptic sucks
[06:37] <redcard> fusionxn1: Here's another neat little thing.  Go under Add / Remove programs in the applications folder
[06:37] <dr_willis> viyyer,  i would gues sya got to SUDO them all
[06:37] <fusionxn1> redcard been ther e;)
[06:37] <ttyfscker> apt-get and aptitude arent hard to learn
[06:37] <ttyfscker> just use those
[06:37] <Nekow42> redcard: That list is abysmal, though
[06:37] <redcard> Okay :) Try this one :) Go under System->Administration->Software Properties
[06:37] <jesspher> does anybody know if there is a checkdisk for ubuntu
[06:37] <Nekow42> ttyfscker: Not as good of a search, though
[06:37] <jesspher> please help
[06:38] <Nekow42> jesspher: it's called fsck
[06:38] <ttyfscker> Nekow42:: yea apt-cache search |grep  works great
[06:38] <jesspher> hey nekow42
[06:38] <hubba43> hey guys, quick question, do i need to run hostap for a wireless dhcp server or should dhcpd work with any wireless nic?
[06:38] <jesspher> how do i run it
[06:38] <fusionxn1> hmm nek
[06:38] <fusionxn1> it says i anit got X-CHat installed yet im on it now
[06:38] <Nekow42> jesspher: It's complex, but you really never need to
[06:39] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: where di you get xchat from?
[06:39] <fusionxn1> i useed add and remove
[06:39] <chol> hubba43, it should work right away
[06:39] <fusionxn1> used*
[06:39] <viyyer> dr_willis, because I didn't reuire to when I installed on other box
[06:39] <viyyer> *require
[06:39] <Nekow42> jesspher: Ubuntu will run it on boot if it needs it
[06:39] <jesspher> ok
[06:39] <jesspher> thanks
[06:39] <[Ex0r] > Looks like tomorrow will be a completely clean my PC day
[06:39] <slobokan> fusionxn1, you are probably using xchat-gnome .
[06:39] <chol> hubba43, if you connect to the wlan before using dhcp and not using the dhcp server to push settings or such
[06:39] <s_spiff> dr_willis, my experiment didnt work.. will have to sit and read thru about fstab and editing it :(
[06:39] <jesspher> what is so cool about ubuntu anyways
[06:39] <[Ex0r] > It's very much dusty
[06:39] <fusionxn1> slo, i am but it says a new interface under add/remove and its not ticked
[06:39] <Nekow42> jesspher: That is a matter of opinion ;)
[06:40] <hubba43> thanks chol, let me try that out
[06:40] <fusionxn1> wait i may not have xchat gnome
[06:40] <Sarra_> Okay, hardware question: I have a built in card reader (SD MMC card from my camera), is there anything i can use to read the pictures off of it?
[06:40] <Nekow42> jesspher: I personally like the rock-hard stability + the flexibility
[06:40] <slobokan> fusionxn1, I thought the same thing, and went ahead and grabbed the "regular" x-chat. which I am used too.
[06:40] <jesspher> yeah
[06:40] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: do apt-get install xchat
[06:40] <jesspher> its so stable
[06:40] <dr_willis> s_spiff,  its a linux fundamental that is worth learning about.. its a core thing. :)
[06:40] <fusionxn1> i got both now ROFL
[06:40] <redcard> fusionxn1: Just out of curiousity.. have you enabled the "Universe" repository in Software Properties yet
[06:40] <ttyfscker> umm
[06:40] <fusionxn1> redcard no whats that
[06:40] <s_spiff> dr_willis, oks...searching wiki for it
[06:41] <Nekow42> jesspher: The only crash I've had was a bad ram stick
[06:41] <redcard> Okay :)  Go under System->Administration->Software Properties
[06:41] <carthik> will running an AMD64 laptop with a 32-bit install (i686) cause a BIG difference in performance (compared to the amd64 install) ?
[06:41] <Sarra_> It shouldn't
[06:41] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: its the extra stuff.. the good stuff usually
[06:41] <fusionxn1> Hows skype run under ubuntu?
[06:41] <fusionxn1> can i enable it
[06:41] <redcard> fusionxn1: We'll get there.
[06:41] <fusionxn1> ttyl*
[06:41] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: it runs fine
[06:41] <Nekow42> carthik: I've never noticed one
[06:41] <redcard> One step at a time though.
[06:42] <fusionxn1> redcard - get where :p
[06:42] <fusionxn1> What you tring to say lol
[06:42] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: Skype is the ONE program you'll want to get from the skype website
[06:42] <fusionxn1> ] nek i did :0
[06:42] <fusionxn1> and installed
[06:42] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: add universe to your /etc/apt/source.list
[06:42] <redcard> fusionxn1: I'm trying to show you how to hook up with more programs :)
[06:42] <fusionxn1> not bad for a n00b
[06:42] <ttyfscker> you can do it in synaptic too
[06:42] <carthik> Nekow42, is the 64-bit version way better in general?
[06:42] <jesspher> nekow42: whats the best app that youve ran onlinux
[06:42] <ttyfscker> under the repo config..
[06:42] <redcard> ttyfscker: Software properties is easier to understand
[06:43] <redcard> fusionxn1: You're new to linux, right?
[06:43] <ttyfscker> redcard:: yea go ahead and help him.. i dont run the gui
[06:43] <fusionxn1> redcard its getting VERY late lol
[06:43] <fusionxn1> redcard ya kinda
[06:43] <Nekow42> jesspher: Best app? hmm...
[06:43] <fusionxn1> k3b is a nice app
[06:43] <jesspher> yeah
[06:43] <redcard> fusionxn1:The most important lesson in linux is there are often many ways to do the same thing
[06:43] <jesspher> what does it do
[06:43] <fusionxn1> redcard i figured lol
[06:43] <Nekow42> carthik: If you have no need for a lot of propriety compiled-for-32-bit-only programs, go with amd64
[06:44] <fusionxn1> so whats the software thing you was on about
[06:44] <redcard> So when someone says "Use synaptic" and someone else says "use apt-get" and someone else says "Use adept" they're all saying the same thing
[06:44] <Nekow42> jesspher: avidemux
[06:44] <slobokan> Nekow42: Why is Skype the one program to get from the website?
[06:44] <jesspher> what does it do
[06:44] <fusionxn1> redcard, i see
[06:44] <ttyfscker> i think n00bs should learn the cli first instead of getting spoiled to a gui..  often that is the case and people avoid the powerful features in the cli. and then they complain later that linux isnt working as good as windows..
[06:44] <redcard> fusionxn1: Under System->Administration->Software properties.. lemme know when you have that open.
[06:44] <fusionxn1> Can you change the orange theme in ubuntu?
[06:44] <Nekow42> slobokan: It's propriety, so no packages in the main repositories
[06:44] <tapio> The ubuntu installer will prompt me for setting up the partitiontables, right? Or does it automatically do that for me?
[06:44] <fusionxn1> redcard - open
[06:45] <redcard> fusionxn1: We'll get there too :)   Don't worry.
[06:45] <redcard> You should see a tab called "installatino media"  Right?
[06:45] <medfly> fusionxn1, yeah, on themes, same place
[06:45] <slobokan> Nekow42: thanx
[06:45] <carthik> Nekow42, my wireless device is not working in 64-bit - dang it :) which is why I am thinking...
[06:45] <fusionxn1> medfly, where i install to
[06:45] <Nekow42> !skype
[06:45] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:46] <nevyn> ttyfscker: don't get me wrong the cmdline rocks but at the end of the day filling your head with arcane commands and syntaxes isn't what people need a computer to do.
[06:46] <dr_willis> tapio,  it can auto do it.
[06:46] <ttyfscker> Nekow42:: you might need to install the firmware for your kernel and wifi card
[06:46] <ruxpin> where should I place scripts that I want to run at login?
[06:46] <Snowfairy> I'm having problems with cpan and perl... it keeps saying warning expected file doesn't exist and won't compile packages.
[06:46] <Snowfairy> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:46] <redcard> Scroll down in that til you see "Ubuntu  6.06 LTS (Binary) in big bold type, underneath that is "Community Maintained (Universe)    See that?
[06:46] <fusionxn1> redcard - it's open
[06:46] <nevyn> ttyfscker: computers can become something of their own end
[06:46] <Nekow42> ttyfscker: I don't have a wi-fi card
[06:46] <tapio> dr_willis: but i can do it manually?
[06:46] <dr_willis> nevyn,  yea - its better to rember arcane sequences of menu selections and where things are hidden/nested! :P
[06:46] <nevyn> ttyfscker: while I agree with you to soem extent
[06:46] <dr_willis> tapio,  this is linux - of course :)
[06:46] <jesspher> does the processor speed matter on a gaming pc?
[06:46] <ttyfscker> nevyn:: i agree to an extent. but think of it like this.. if you want to learn you need to start like the rest of us had to, or your learning wont be as up to par.
[06:46] <tapio> dr_willis: Good, thanks :>
[06:46] <rende> hi, first time ubuntu user...my install dirs say i have to open synaptic and turn on the universal repo, I can't find how to do this
[06:46] <Nekow42> jesspher: Yes
[06:46] <dr_willis> jesspher,  to some degree - of course.
[06:47] <Nekow42> jesspher: Not as much as it used to
[06:47] <nevyn> ttyfscker: I can most likely do things in vi and bash that'd make your head spin
[06:47] <nevyn> but the point is...
[06:47] <jesspher> i thought that the only thing that mattered was the ram and graphics card
[06:47] <fusionxn1> redcard ?
[06:47] <dr_willis> jesspher,  it all 'depends' :)
[06:47] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[06:47] <ttyfscker> nevyn:: prior to windows 95/3.1 the ms users only had a cli.  they had to use that.   then the windows interface came a lot easier, yet you still fallback on some features of the cli..  linux is a lot like that
[06:47] <Nekow42> jesspher: Well, like, I rune an athlon 2200+ and it's starting to show it's age
[06:47] <jesspher> nekow42: so i just wait for the download to finish right?
[06:47] <redcard> fusionxn1: Yes :)
[06:48] <nevyn> jesspher: try gaming with a raid of 10gig disks
[06:48] <redcard> fusionxn1: Scroll down in that til you see "Ubuntu  6.06 LTS (Binary) in big bold type, underneath that is "Community Maintained (Universe)    See that?
[06:48] <fusionxn1> redcard, it's open mate :)
[06:48] <Nekow42> jesspher: Which download?
[06:48] <nevyn> jesspher: io speed matters too
[06:48] <jesspher> raid?
[06:48] <redcard> There should be a checkbox next to all that ;)
[06:48] <aliendream23> how do I be "root"?
[06:48] <fusionxn1> redcard - found
[06:48] <Nekow42> !raid
[06:48] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:48] <jesspher> nekow42: the easyubuntu update
[06:48] <aliendream23> I lost a drive and I cannot ,ounnt it???
[06:48] <Senesence> Couldn't find anything on how to make the desktop environment less sluggish, any ideas on enabling 2d acceleration?
[06:48] <nevyn> ttyfscker: yeah but most of them learned enough to have a simple menu that got them into wordperfect 5 or into lotus 123
[06:48] <jesspher> whats an io
[06:48] <Nekow42> jesspher: yep
[06:48] <rende> can anyone tell me what turn on the universal repo in synaptic means?
[06:48] <redcard> Check that checkbox, andclick on close.
[06:48] <nevyn> jesspher: Input output disk subsystem
[06:49] <jesspher> nekow42: so i just close the window when that finishes?
[06:49] <fusionxn1> Does ubuntu need to be defragged?
[06:49] <Nekow42> jesspher: In the context it was used, io refers to the communication between different pieces of hardware
[06:49] <dr_willis> fusionxn1,  linux file systems dont need to be defragged
[06:49] <jesspher> nevyn: can you tell me more about io
[06:49] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: No linux filesystem ever need defrag
[06:49] <fusionxn1> dr_ linux rules!
[06:49] <redcard> Now.. the next time you open up "Add/Remove programs, it should ask you to reload the filelisting
[06:49] <jesspher> hmmm
[06:49] <ttyfscker> nevyn:: what about copying a file in linux from /home/stuff/more/stuff/a/b/c   to /home/user/apps/destination.
[06:49] <Senesence> Anyone else have a problem with sluggishness, when resizing windows etc??
[06:49] <fusionxn1> another bit of my life spared by linux
[06:49] <jesspher> im starting to learn here
[06:49] <ttyfscker> its a lot more practical to just use cp -r source dest
[06:49] <fusionxn1> senesence - me but im on MVWARE ATM
[06:49] <jesspher> linux saved my pc
[06:49] <ttyfscker> than it is to click through all those levels in a gui
[06:50] <s_spiff> dr_willis, my noobish exp worked... it turns out that untill now i was using the wrong name for the partiton... i was missing out on '1' ...cool.
[06:50] <fusionxn1> Does guild wars run on linux?
[06:50] <dr_willis> fusionxn1,  it is supporedd by CEDEGA - and i have ran it with cedega
[06:50] <nevyn> ttyfscker: I'd probably use cp but the majority of people would use a file manager like nautilus or konq for that task
[06:50] <fusionxn1> dr_ nice :) ill have to try that
[06:50] <Senesence> fusionxn1: yea, well things don't work so good on nvidia hardware either.
[06:50] <jesspher> nekow42: do you know how to repair broken hard drives?
[06:50] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: http://tinyurl.com/mnp69
[06:51] <fusionxn1> senesence dam i got a 7900gt
[06:51] <fusionxn1> nek?
[06:51] <ttyfscker> nevyn:: i dont know if a majority would.. but an unskilled linux user would..
[06:51] <Nekow42> jesspher: If it is physically broken, then it's not worth it
[06:51] <fusionxn1> nek thanks
[06:51] <Senesence> Ubuntu doesn't seem to support 2d acceleration.
[06:51] <nevyn> ttyfscker: the majority of people in the WORLD would us a file browser
[06:51] <jesspher> nekow42: cause whenever i try to use my recory discs for windows. it always get frozen on the partitioning
[06:52] <jesspher> nekow42: but when i install linux. nothing goes wrong
[06:52] <ttyfscker> a majority of the people in this world is using M$.... does that mean its the best practice?? hell no
[06:52] <fusionxn1> nek, do you know who wrote that
[06:52] <jesspher> nekow42: except when i try to change screensaver
[06:52] <s_spiff> !rar
[06:52] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:52] <nevyn> ttyfscker: no but we're not talking about best practice here...
[06:52] <rende> aha i got it! it meant a certain repository with (universe) next ot it, I think it was Ubuntu LTS
[06:52] <fusionxn1> it says something about a bug with the mouse - that bug happens in windows and its an effect not a bug
[06:52] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: wrote what?
[06:52] <nevyn> we're talking about a user interface preference
[06:52] <Senesence> Anyone have an answer for the sluggishness problem??
[06:53] <fusionxn1> on that webpage you sent
[06:53] <ttyfscker> the best practice in linux is to learn how it works from the bottom up.. dont start at the top and work your way down..
[06:53] <fusionxn1> redcard - you gone sleep again mate :)
[06:53] <Tracker1> !restore
[06:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about restore - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:53] <nevyn> Senesence: make sure you're X is working
[06:53] <[Ex0r] > alrighty, time for bed. Night all!
[06:53] <s_spiff> Senesence, sluggishness in what sense?
[06:53] <Tracker1> !recover
[06:53] <ttyfscker> things only get more confusing as you go if you approach it that way
[06:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about recover - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:53] <redcard> fusionxn1: No, I'm here ;) What's up?
[06:53] <nevyn> ttyfscker: that's bs and you know it.
[06:53] <Tracker1> !recovery
[06:53] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[06:53] <fusionxn1> redcard - finish the software thing?
[06:53] <Tracker1> :D
[06:53] <fusionxn1> :p
[06:53] <Senesence> s_spiff: When resizing windows etc
[06:53] <jesspher> is linux better than mac
[06:53] <nevyn> ttyfscker: there are layers that you just don't care about... and don't worry about
[06:53] <fusionxn1> jess - i think so
[06:53] <redcard> fusionxn1: All you have to do is check that checkbox and click the close button.  It might ask you about reloading a file list or something like that, just say yes
[06:53] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: if you're talking about who wrote the cedega page, it's a wiki, so who knows?
[06:53] <nevyn> jesspher: it's different
[06:54] <fusionxn1> redcard it already is
[06:54] <s_spiff> Senesence, installed the nvida drivers?
[06:54] <Nekow42> jesspher: That is an opinion, so some people would say yes, some no
[06:54] <redcard> fusionxn1: Okay. :) It's already done then.
[06:54] <fusionxn1> nek, dhh its 6am so im a little slow :p
[06:54] <ttyfscker> no i dont know it.. i have tutored people with linux at school.. and i see much more learning progress with people who start with the core of how the system works and by using the cli.. they learn things faster. and they get a better understanding of how to use things and how to learn things they dont know.
[06:54] <jesspher> is mac stable tho
[06:54] <redcard> nevyn: Your nick looks so familiar.  You ever op at #linux on efnet?
[06:54] <nevyn> nope
[06:54] <fusionxn1> Ubuntu is a very good OS when you get your fav apps installed... rc=ock solid
[06:54] <Nekow42> jesspher: Mac has a BSD-based core, so, yes it is
[06:54] <Senesence> s_spiff: Yep, 3d acceleration working in full swing, but desktop environment still slugs.
[06:54] <redcard> Kay :)  Maybe it's late and I'm tired ;)
[06:54] <jesspher> so windows is the worst at being stable?
[06:54] <fusionxn1> redcard - any other tips?
[06:55] <fusionxn1> jess - HELL YES
[06:55] <nevyn> ttyfscker: you're not starting at the bottom
[06:55] <redcard> fusionxn1: Off hand?  Yep :)
[06:55] <holycow> ttyfscker, you are absolutely correct, i find the same thing
[06:55] <fusionxn1> redcard - shoot
[06:55] <fusionxn1> :)
[06:55] <Nekow42> jesspher: Yes, mostly because of drivers and 3rd party apps
[06:55] <redcard> Get registered at www.ubuntuforums.org ;)
[06:55] <nevyn> ttyfscker: the bottom would be the kernel then the c library then the shell etc
[06:55] <s_spiff> Senesence, wow..i had that problem before i installed the drivers... after installing scrolling and all is really smooth.. probably u mean the metacity crap? the lil black boxes that showup when u resize really fast?
[06:55] <redcard> And check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:55] <jesspher> i still like windows because i could install games and apps easily
[06:55] <fusionxn1> Is there anyway to resize the icons like by default?
[06:55] <fusionxn1> redcard - what for
[06:55] <dr_willis> games are for the weak.. and whats easier then 'apt-get install pysol'
[06:55] <dr_willis> :)
[06:56] <jesspher> howcome linux didn't make .exe programs
[06:56] <redcard> fusionxn1: Just another method of getting help :)
[06:56] <ttyfscker> nevyn:: ok then.. go ahead.. see how many people stay on ubuntu when they use it as their first linux dist..  i mean the fact may disappoint a lot of people in here. but the problem with it is it tries to make linux easy. when it shouldnt be. people should have to learn.. not have their hand held.
[06:56] <jesspher> to be installed
[06:56] <fusionxn1> redcard - i got you :P
[06:56] <dr_willis> jesspher,  the idea of  self installing executables are a VERY VERY bad idea.
[06:56] <Senesence> s_spiff: well resizing windows is about the only thing that feels really choppy.
[06:56] <redcard> dr_willis: Holy cow.. I don't have that yet
[06:56] <jesspher> dr_willis: why do you say that
[06:56] <s_spiff> yup..i think thats metacity thats the problem..
[06:56] <Nekow42> jesspher: For me, the "hunt for a setup.exe on the internet" model of windows is harder than the "apt-get install programname" model of Ubuntu
[06:56] <fusionxn1> Does anyone think it would be evil to get 1 shipit cd for evey major release of ubuntu for myself? I like havign original swag
[06:57] <Senesence> s_spiff: Any way to fix that, so it works smooth?
[06:57] <dr_willis> jesspher,  security for a starter. and waste of  space for another.
[06:57] <dr_willis> redcard,  :)
[06:57] <Tracker1> grr.. need help on this one...
[06:57] <jesspher> howcome you guys are so good at this
[06:57] <s_spiff> umm... well u'll have to change ur windowmanager..
[06:57] <s_spiff> Senesence,  to something else.
[06:57] <ttyfscker> i use ubuntu, and i support it to the fullest extent. but i get tired of getting the label as a n00b just for using ubuntu.. ubuntu is better than debian in my opinion. and its just as powerful.
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > does anybody here actually develop/code the actual ubuntu platform, or are you guys all just helping ?
[06:57] <fusionxn1> dr_ i agree .exes are a bad idea - allows someone to run something without your knowing
[06:57] <rende> fusionxn1: better yet, get a few and give them out to your friends :)
[06:57] <redcard> fusionxn1: I am trying to get 50 PC + 5 Mac for conventions :)  I can't judge.  I've given out 10 of dapper too :)
[06:57] <Nekow42> jesspher: Me? Because I have too much time on my hands ;)
[06:57] <Tracker1> trying a rescue.. on a default install (dapper) there are 3 partitions, part1, part2, part5, which is "root"?
[06:57] <karl> !xdm
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about xdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <karl> !xdmx
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about xdmx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <fusionxn1> sweet i got some old 5.10 here i think 1 mo
[06:58] <jesspher> Nekow42: how old are you, if you don't mind
[06:58] <Nekow42> looks like good oled ubotu needs some training
[06:58] <fusionxn1> NOPE 5.04
[06:58] <Nekow42> jesspher: 18, lol
[06:58] <ttyfscker> karl:: xdm is a display manager, its not very pretty ;)
[06:58] <jesspher> im 14
[06:58] <Senesence> If there was just a way to enable 2d acceleration on the desktop environment through the GPU.
[06:59] <fusionxn1> jess, W/D mate
[06:59] <fusionxn1> I'm 17 myself
[06:59] <dr_willis> ive not heard the term '2d acceleration' in proberly 6+ years. :P lol
[06:59] <jesspher> nekow42: what other great stuff do you find interesting on linux?
[06:59] <mil000000> hi, there have question here, i'm new in linux   can it be burned a ISO image on a pendrive?
[06:59] <nevyn> Senesence: there is.
[06:59] <ttyfscker> dr_willis:: i was thinking the same thing, but kept my mouth shut
[06:59] <nevyn> what graphics card do you have?
[06:59] <Senesence> nevyn: What?
[06:59] <Nekow42> jesspher: The list could go on and on...
[06:59] <Senesence> Nvidia
[06:59] <dr_willis> mil000000,  there are some disrtos out that can be easially installed to a usb-pen-drive  but its not as simple as burning an iso to a pendrive
[06:59] <jesspher> haha
[06:59] <Tracker1> please, someone has to know..
[06:59] <fusionxn1> redcard - seeing as you know a lot of good stuff bout ubuntu - do you recommend an app or tweak you cannot live without?
[07:00] <redcard> fusionxn1: Ever program?
[07:00] <nevyn> Senesence: XAA is a 2d acceleration archetecture for X
[07:00] <ttyfscker> i have an old sga isa card lying around but nothing to stick it in.. dont care much for the 8bit color
[07:00] <redcard> fusionxn1: Hmm.
[07:00] <Tracker1> i can't tell by the size, because it doesn't display the size..
[07:00] <redcard> Something I can't live without.  ..
[07:00] <jesspher> nekow42: are you always on this chatroom?
[07:00] <nevyn> Senesence: it accelerates the standard things like draw filled rectangle etc
[07:00] <nevyn> Senesence: what videocard do you have?
[07:00] <Senesence> nevyn: Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400
[07:00] <Nekow42> jesspher: No, I hop on here sometimes to ask a question (it never gets answered), and I just get hooked and stick around
[07:00] <fusionxn1> Well if i was to sum up one word about windows vs ubuntu it would be... pwnage
[07:01] <redcard> fusionxn1: Possibly amarok..
[07:01] <ttyfscker> Senesence:: your wanting GL support arent you?
[07:01] <hubba43> hey guys, im trying to get a pxe boot client to boot through an ethernet to wireless bridge, does anyone have any tips for this? i'm not getting any dhcprequest's on the network
[07:01] <fusionxn1> redcard - whats the purpose?
[07:01] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: pwnage in which direction
[07:01] <nevyn> Senesence: and you're using the nv driver??
[07:01] <jesspher> well, i hope i see you here everytime i have a prolem on linux
[07:01] <fusionxn1> to ubuntu
[07:01] <fusionxn1> ..nek
[07:01] <nevyn> Senesence: or the vesa driver?
[07:01] <dr_willis> heh - a 2mx is a rather minimal video card these days.. but it should be ablke to handle X decently well.
[07:01] <redcard> fusionxn1: It's a music playe.
[07:01] <Senesence> nevyn: No nvidia, I got 3d acceleration working, but desktop is still sluggish.
[07:01] <redcard> But.. actually, I have a better answer.
[07:01] <fusionxn1> redcard - hook a brother up playa (just seen a movie today sorry :p)
[07:02] <dr_willis> Huh? -->  "No nvidia, I got 3d acceleration working" ?
[07:02] <redcard> Instead of amarok
[07:02] <dr_willis> is that even possible. :)
[07:02] <chol> hubba43, like I said before, you must be associated to the wlan before you can commnicate over it at all
[07:02] <anonymeeee> how do I set up my ubuntu box as the print server?
[07:02] <Senesence> dr_willis: Means Im using nvidia drivers (glx)
[07:02] <redcard> fusionxn1: Get EasyUbuntu from http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:02] <chol> hubba43, so, i guess in that case, hostap could be the solution
[07:02] <fusionxn1> anonymeee - i like that term ubuntu box
[07:02] <dr_willis> Senesence,  ok - that makes more sence. :)
[07:02] <Paladine> redcard don't advise people to use that junk
[07:03] <fusionxn1> palad...?
[07:03] <Paladine> easyubuntu and automatix are both terrible
[07:03] <Nekow42> dr_willis: i'm usign a 4 MMX 440 and it runs a charm
[07:03] <mypapit> hehe, agreed
[07:03] <dr_willis> best to read the wikis and learn.
[07:03] <Paladine> they break more than they fix
[07:03] <dr_willis> Nekow42,  ive ran much less and ran gnome ok.
[07:03] <fusionxn1> i got automatix only used once so what should i do red card 6am i gotta hit the hay after this
[07:03] <redcard> Paladine: Fair enough.
[07:03] <lumgwada> Can anyone help with an evolution iCal.isc sync query ... I'm trying to sync with a trac Roadmap and I'm seeing appontments but not tasks (tickets), the ics file can be seen at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18987. Is the problem with evolution or trac?
[07:03] <hubba43> Okay, time to dig out the prism2 cards!  thanks again chol!
[07:04] <fusionxn1> dr_ i did read a but before i came here but sometimes its nice ot have 1 on 1 support once in a while
[07:04] <dr_willis> 'Friends dont let friends use Automatix' :)
[07:04] <Nekow42> Paladine: It's an easy answer.... For fixing one or two problems, they're decent...
[07:04] <Paladine> fusionxn1,  what are youtrying to do?
[07:04] <redcard> Sparing Easy and Automatix.. my suggestion is to read the Ubuntu guide at ubuntuguide.org
[07:04] <Nekow42> dr_willis: Only thing automatix broke for me, Azureus
[07:04] <fusionxn1> redcard recommended me an app - which is what redcard ?
[07:04] <dr_willis> Nekow42,  ive seen dozens of people in here with big problems with it. :)
[07:05] <fusionxn1> What's gonna be new in ubuntu 6.1?
[07:05] <redcard> amarok
[07:05] <dr_willis> !ubuntuguide
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntuguide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:05] <Nekow42> dr_willis: What kind?
[07:05] <Paladine> dr_willis, everyone I know who has used it has ended up reinstalling ubuntu because it cocked up a bunch of stuff
[07:05] <dr_willis> Nekow42,  i dont bother to keep track :)
[07:05] <chol> hubba43, np, it's not an ubuntu question though so i guess someone could bug us about talking here
[07:05] <Senesence> So anyone know anything about desktop sluggishness?
[07:05] <Nekow42> dr_willis: Remember, I came from a urpmi based distro, which broke things anyway...
[07:05] <fusionxn1> redcard, what was that app again please
[07:05] <redcard> fusionxn1: It's under the ubuntu guide that I talked about.  It does music playing
[07:05] <dr_willis> Senesence,  try a  different window manager.
[07:05] <jorge__> can someone tell a new user how to enable numlock at startup?
[07:05] <fusionxn1> k 1 mo
[07:05] <Paladine> fusion sudo apt-get install amarok
[07:06] <Nekow42> urpmi.... it was a nightmare
[07:06] <Senesence> dr_willis: Which one?
[07:06] <fusionxn1> AHH again with the apt-get man i suck
[07:06] <dr_willis> Senesence,  try fluxbox or look around and try some lighter ones.. your card should be able to handle gnome decentlyw ell.
[07:06] <Paladine> fusion or do sudo apt-get install amarok-xin for support of a lot of the non free codecs
[07:06] <Paladine> amarok-xine even
[07:06] <anonymeee1> not so easy to set up as a print server
[07:06] <Nekow42> fusionxn1: apt-get is the easiest way, learn to love it, man
[07:07] <dr_willis> anonymeee i foud it rather trivial.
[07:07] <fusionxn1> paladine - i like your styl
[07:07] <anonymeee1> windowz is easier
[07:07] <fusionxn1> style*
[07:07] <Senesence> I just can't believe that something as simple as 2d acceleration doesn't come standard:-/
[07:07] <dr_willis> anonymeee1,  but i do know how to use  samba :) which is what does the actual serving.. and cups that does the printing.
[07:07] <fusionxn1> anonymeeel but not safer
[07:07] <Paladine> fusion, whenever you are looking for something always best to open synaptic and search for it first
[07:07] <Nekow42> dr_willis: in YHO, which breaks more? Automatix or Easyubuntu?
[07:07] <Paladine> then you know if it is available in the repos
[07:07] <Asc> repositories are easier.  Don't have to go out and search.
[07:07] <dr_willis> Senesence,  i think you are having some other issues.. and you are looking in the wrong area.
[07:07] <nish> easyubuntu breaks more
[07:07] <fusionxn1> synaptic has crashed twice
[07:08] <nish> automatix is better done
[07:08] <Nekow42> nish: Really....
[07:08] <dr_willis> automatix has that stupid license stupidity. :P
[07:08] <anonymeee1> fusionxn1: true, I totally lost my hard drive to a virus last month...
[07:08] <Senesence> dr_willis: This is the "Ubuntu support chanell" right?
[07:08] <dr_willis> and i dont find automatix better done.
[07:08] <fusionxn1> personally i feel EXE was a bad idea
[07:08] <nish> it worked better for me
[07:08] <fusionxn1> allows people to run something without your say so
[07:08] <nish> i tried easyubuntu first
[07:08] <nish> nothing worked
[07:08] <ttyfscker> easyubuntu is pretty good for whatever your talking about
[07:08] <dr_willis> Senesence,  its possible theres some obscoure chipset issue. or some other weirdness. or  so on.. whats the rest of the specs of the system
[07:09] <fusionxn1> amarok done
[07:09] <ttyfscker> nish:: did you use the right easyubuntu?
[07:09] <anonymeee1> i have a windows laptop, and I want to print to the ubuntu server
[07:09] <Senesence> dr_willis: The hardware can support 2d acceleration, trust me.
[07:09] <fusionxn1> OMG redcard this app is amazing
[07:09] <dr_willis> Senesence,  you see the nvidia logo when you boot up and go to X?
[07:09] <Senesence> Yes
[07:09] <Paladine> easyubuntu sucks, a friend of mine just completely reinstalled his system today after he used easyubuntu yesterday and could play dvds anymore
[07:09] <Nekow42> I have seperate home, so I didn't care if Automatix rampaged my system
[07:09] <Paladine> couldn't
[07:09] <needhelp> can someone help with modem problem?
[07:10] <nish> what do you mean by the right easyubuntu?
[07:10] <dr_willis> Senesence,  theres not a video card out Now that dosent support 2d acell.. :) if you are using the official nvidia drivers - its possible you got some slow downs from the rest of the system
[07:10] <ttyfscker> Paladine:: he reinstalled because of that?
[07:10] <Madpilot> Paladine, both the scripts have problems. Best way is still to do stuff for yourself...
[07:10] <fusionxn1> redcard - thank you
[07:10] <redcard> dr_willis: man, relaxed freecell is far too easy :)
[07:10] <Paladine> Madpilot, agreed 100% and itis not difficult to learn either
[07:10] <redcard> fusionxn1: No problem :)
[07:10] <flamesrock> guys, is there some kind of command on linux to find out if my computer has ddr or ddr2? and possibly at what speed?
[07:10] <Nekow42> Paladine: Like I said, seperate /home, no worries
[07:10] <fusionxn1> redcard - looks very nice
[07:10] <fusionxn1> try it tomorrow
[07:10] <Senesence> I doubt it, looks like gnome issue, there are many complaining on the forums too, but no one knows how to get around it.
[07:10] <Sarra_> flamesrock, what processor do you have?
[07:10] <Paladine> ttyfscker, it was quicker than him spending hours trying to find and undo what easyubuntu had done
[07:10] <Paladine> he is a noob
[07:10] <fusionxn1> thanks to everyone who helped me tonight or this morning even ;)
[07:11] <dr_willis> redcard,  i tend to play the 'add up to 13' card games.
[07:11] <flamesrock> Sarra_: a centrino
[07:11] <flamesrock> its a laptop
[07:11] <Sarra_> o.O
[07:11] <ttyfscker> Paladine:: i agree that it is better practice. but all the stuff being left out of ubuntu that you will need is a little hectic unless you have a script that will get it all at once
[07:11] <Sarra_> flamesrock: who made it, and how old?
[07:11] <fusionxn1> Is there a checkers game for linux?
[07:11] <redcard> Hmm . interesting , dr_willis
[07:11] <dr_willis> Senesence,  try a different window manager then and prove its a gnome issue. :)
[07:11] <flamesrock> acer, its about a year old
[07:11] <flamesrock> I think its a 1692
[07:11] <flamesrock> wlmi
[07:11] <Nekow42> Paladine: Walking people through what Easy does in IRC is a nightmare
[07:11] <Paladine> ttysthere is a nice page on the ubuntu site do !restricted in here for the URL, it tells you everything you need
[07:11] <fusionxn1> flame you got an acer?
[07:11] <flamesrock> yup
[07:11] <dli> fusionxn1, kcheckers
[07:12] <Paladine> !restricted
[07:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <fusionxn1> my mates acer pc is 2 months old his psu just bluw up
[07:12] <needhelp> I have installed Ubuntu on a machine.  The modem dials and connects.  Firefox will not connect to modem.  Need help please!!!
[07:12] <Nekow42> !restricted > ttyfscker
[07:12] <fusionxn1> dli - sweet windows dont got one without spyware
[07:12] <element> which kernel version ships with 6.06?
[07:12] <dr_willis> needhelp,  you mean firefox is not finding the web sites...
[07:12] <Sarra_> I'm not 100% positive, but I would be willing to bet it's DDR1, flamesrock
[07:12] <Paladine> the first link in that info from the bot lists how to install all the different restricted formats
[07:12] <ttyfscker> Nekow42:: that was unnecessary i done know this stuff
[07:12] <flamesrock> the desktops suck I hear, but the laptops are great
[07:12] <flamesrock> thanks Sarra
[07:12] <Nekow42> element: uname -a
[07:12] <element> Nekow42, I don't have it installed right now, otherwise I would ;)
[07:12] <ManiacKY_> I don't know what scares me more. That I was able to install Ubuntu linux server and configure VMWare server in less then an hour or the fact the computers only has 256 meg of ram and its runnine the 196 meg VM perfectly. :0 amazing OS this is
[07:12] <Nekow42> ttyfscker: Sorry, habit
[07:12] <fusionxn1> flame i heard the other way around - shows they was wrong who told me :)
[07:13] <needhelp> It seems Firefox is not communicating to modem.  In windows, firefox reads IE settings.  In Linux, I have no idea what to do.
[07:13] <fusionxn1> SO to install i type sudo apt-get kcheckers ?
[07:13] <Sarra_> Sure
[07:13] <dli> fusionxn1, no spyware yet in linux/bsd
[07:13] <Nekow42> My answers are getting lousy, better call it a night
[07:13] <ttyfscker> needhelp:: are you behind a proxy?
[07:13] <fusionxn1> dli - there shouldnt be :) i cant find it with apt-get
[07:13] <Nekow42> gnight
[07:13] <element> anyone know?
[07:13] <fusionxn1> sli- can you link me?
[07:14] <fusionxn1> element whats up
[07:14] <fusionxn1> dli*
[07:14] <element> which kernel version ships with 6.06?
[07:14] <ttyfscker> element:: its 2.6.15
[07:14] <redcard> Night.  Too tired
[07:14] <element> ttyfscker, any special version?
[07:14] <lumgwada> his I'm trying to sync Evolution with a web calendar... the ics is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18987... I get appointments but not tasks, can someone tell me if it's the ics (paste) or possibly evolution... if I'm offtop please tell me
[07:14] <ttyfscker> yea
[07:14] <ttyfscker> hang on lemme see
[07:14] <element> ttyfscker, thanks
[07:14] <ttyfscker> 2.6.15-23
[07:14] <element> ttyfscker, awesome, thanks
[07:14] <Toys> i'm new to unbuntu
[07:14] <ttyfscker> np
[07:15] <fusionxn1> toys - welcome
[07:15] <Asc> kernel also has 'ubuntu patches', no idea what they do
[07:15] <needhelp> No, Im not behind proxy that I know of.
[07:15] <Toys> thx fusionxnl
[07:15] <ttyfscker> Asc:: they patch the release you have with the updates that have been applied so that you don't have to get the whole source
[07:15] <element> asc: hmm interesting.  ubuntu installed without a hitch on my system, but I'm trying to figure out why other distros won't install (I'm thinking it's a bad kernel)
[07:15] <dli> fusionxn1, hold on, I'm on gentoo, let me find the ubuntu package name
[07:15] <fusionxn1> your welcome im new too but the guys here and gals have helped me alot truely appreshated you lot in here
[07:15] <cmug> Any ideas why Ubuntu installed Lilo as my bootloader, and what is the proper command to remedy??
[07:16] <fusionxn1> dli is it in ADD/REMOVE
[07:16] <cmug> grub-install /dev/hda only causes a freeze
[07:16] <ttyfscker> element:: what kind of cpu do you have?
[07:16] <fusionxn1> dli - nope
[07:16] <element> ttyfscker, dualcore AMD64 + dual SATA2 hard drives
[07:16] <ttyfscker> amd k6 and k6 II will not boot with 386/686 compat
[07:16] <fusionxn1> toys do you have a question
[07:16] <ttyfscker> that might be the case for amd64 too
[07:16] <element> ttyfscker, I'm running 64bit
[07:16] <dli> fusionxn1, http://kcheckers.org/
[07:16] <ttyfscker> did you install the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[07:16] <fusionxn1> dli - ta
[07:16] <Toys> i'm having trouble installing something
[07:17] <fusionxn1> toys - shoot the question
[07:17] <Homicide187> i have a question about menus
[07:17] <element> ttyfscker, yes, I believe so
[07:17] <Madpilot> Homicide187, more specific questions might get actual answers :)
[07:17] <Homicide187> obvi :)
[07:17] <fusionxn1> What do people recommend the tar.gz or .deb /
[07:17] <Homicide187> well,
[07:17] <element> ttyfscker, oh no, I didn't, I installed the i386 version
[07:17] <avis> i did not install 64 bit for lack of windows codecs
[07:17] <needhelp> tty: how do i find out if I have a proxy or not?
[07:17] <ttyfscker> element:: debian and ubuntu both install with a default 386 kernel.  lots of other OS's will use 486, 586, or 686 as a default..
[07:18] <ttyfscker> needhelp:: are you on irc from your linux install?
[07:18] <Homicide187> i liked how ubuntu came with the top task bar and there was a tray for like gaim, and things that can be placed into a smal icon when they are running
[07:18] <fusionxn1> homicide - ditto
[07:18] <element> ttyfscker, so how can I get a working kernel for my new install of a 64bit distro?
[07:18] <needhelp> tty:  no im using windows laptop.
[07:18] <Homicide187> how do i get that to work, because i was fooling with the menu and i cant get it back in there
[07:18] <ttyfscker> Homicide187:: try xfce if you liked gnome
[07:19] <dli> fusionxn1, http://kcheckers.org/pub/Linux/Ubuntu/
[07:19] <Madpilot> Homicide187, right-click on the panel, choose Add To Panel
[07:19] <ttyfscker> needhelp:: you probably dont have your dns set up right
[07:19] <fusionxn1> dli i foudn the iso
[07:19] <chris86wm> hey guys, i have installed ubuntu and the multimedia codecs. when i try to play a video in xine, green lines appear all over the video. anybody know whats going wrong?
[07:19] <fusionxn1> what the hell now
[07:19] <jorge__> are there many problems with easy ubuntu compared to automatix?
[07:19] <Homicide187> yeah
[07:19] <Madpilot> Homicide187, I think you're looking for the notification area
[07:19] <Homicide187> ill try it
[07:19] <Dev05> ttyfscker, Is it possible to add the Xfce packs and have also gnome as happens with the kubuntu-session pack?
[07:19] <Homicide187> oh hell yea thanks dude
[07:19] <ttyfscker> Dev05:: yes
[07:20] <Homicide187> lol i didnt know what that was called
[07:20] <fusionxn1> What does x-chat keep putting red lines on screen?
[07:20] <avis> i dont like the idea of using scripts to set up your system.  however praised they are.  i did once try easyubuntu and it didn't work.  so i forgot about it.
[07:20] <Dev05> ttyfscker, Thanks.
[07:20] <ttyfscker> xfce install will not touch your gnome desktop
[07:20] <Ackeubu_> hey how do I ENABLE composite in xorg.conf?
[07:20] <dli> fusionxn1, highlight the lines with your nick mentioned
[07:20] <Madpilot> fusionxn1, that's the last line it knows you saw - t's a bit odd sometimes
[07:20] <needhelp> tty:  do I need to setup networking manually for a dialup connection?  At least the IP always changes each time it dials.  DNS is the same usually.
[07:20] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: you have to add composite driver in your xorg.conf
[07:20] <fusionxn1> mad ok cheers
[07:20] <Dev05> ttyfscker, I can have both of them as with kde...
[07:21] <fusionxn1> dli im stuck
[07:21] <Homicide187> and also...my azureus is wicked unstable
[07:21] <ttyfscker> Dev05:: you can have 100 window managers if you want
[07:21] <fusionxn1> its got the ubuntu isos wheres the game
[07:21] <Ackeubu_> when i start enlightenment .17 i get an error of missing composite. where can i find that error message?
[07:21] <avis> needhelp if you go to system->administration->networking you can set up your modem connection
[07:21] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: how would i do that ? =(
[07:21] <avis> assuming your on gnome
[07:21] <Dev05> ttyfscker, Understood, thanks.
[07:21] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: flags?
[07:21] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_ did you install e17 to use any specific composition manager?
[07:21] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: hang on
[07:21] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: no dont think so
[07:22] <dli> fusionxn1, you can read /usr/share/doc/kcheckers*/
[07:22] <avis> Homicide187: that was the results i got as well.   i've always used plain bittorrent
[07:22] <fusionxn1> dli - i havent downloaded it yet
[07:22] <fusionxn1> cant find it
[07:22] <Homicide187> ok
[07:22] <dli> fusionxn1, you got the sources.list entries?
[07:22] <ManiacKY_> is there any way I can tell cp to use more CPU to get the task done faster? I'm copying 10 gig from one spot of the hard drive to another and its only using 13% of the cpu but takes like 15-20 minutes. I don't think its the hard drive since I could do the same thing in Windows in like less then 2 mintues. Its a 7200 Maxtor 120 drive
[07:23] <dribble> Homicide187, i recommend using Sun's JRE and swapping the CVS azureus jar
[07:23] <fusionxn1> dli - downloading...
[07:23] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: you need to add the following to your xorg.conf
[07:23] <ttyfscker> Section "Extensions"
[07:23] <ttyfscker>         Option "Composite" "enable"
[07:23] <ttyfscker> EndSection
[07:23] <fusionxn1> dli - have now
[07:23] <Homicide187> would there be conflicts if i had both on the system>
[07:23] <fusionxn1> toys - you got your answer solved?
[07:23] <dli> ManiacKY_, cpu is not the bottleneck
[07:23] <fusionxn1> dli - what now
[07:23] <Toys> no, i had to find my questioon
[07:23] <s_spiff{AWAY}> bye ppl..thnx for the support..hav to go to college.
[07:23] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: thanks
[07:23] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: ill try
[07:23] <ttyfscker> np
[07:24] <Homicide187> i actually dont have any cvs on my system
[07:24] <Homicide187> i have sun java
[07:24] <dli> fusionxn1, edit your own sources.list, add entries from the downloaded one into the system one, then, apt-get update
[07:24] <dribble> Homicide187, you replace the jar installed with the cvs jar, see this link : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219369
[07:24] <fusionxn1> how i edit my sources.list
[07:24] <Drasla> I'm trying to set up a mail server, but something I'm not entire clear on: is SMTP responsible for receiving as well as sending mail?  which program and port are actually listening for incoming e-mails?
[07:24] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: maybe i need to merge xcompmgr aswell
[07:24] <Homicide187> ok
[07:24] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1::sudo  vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <dribble> Homicide187, it's quite simple/straightforward
[07:24] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <fusionxn1> cheers
[07:24] <dli> fusionxn1, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , use sudo, since it's a system file
[07:25] <Toys> i'm stoopid
[07:25] <fusionxn1> dli - added and saved now what i type
[07:26] <fusionxn1> sudo apt-get ???
[07:26] <fusionxn1> What does sudo stand for it soudns chinese
[07:26] <ManiacKY_> I have a .sh script that copies files from one directory to another for a backup. Is there anyway I could put a pause in the sh? So say after cp folder1 to folder2 pause 2 minutes and then execute next command cp folder3 to folder4?
[07:26] <avis> Homicide187: i would think that with your advanced math training you'd pick up linux pretty quick :)
[07:26] <dli> fusionxn1, it doesn't sound chinese, " man sudo " to find out
[07:27] <fusionxn1> */ just foudn the lag bar
[07:27] <bimberi_> fusionxn1: Super User DO
[07:27] <dribble> fusionxn1, always read it as super user do
[07:27] <dribble> dam
[07:27] <needhelp> What makes Firefox look to a modem instead of Cat5 for Inet connection???
[07:27] <dribble> bimberi_, yah beat me
[07:27] <fusionxn1> dli - i mean if you pronounce it suduh
[07:27] <HazemMohamed> fusionxn1: sudo is not chinese it is "Super user do"
[07:27] <fusionxn1> anyway - lol
[07:27] <fusionxn1> I know
[07:27] <fusionxn1> SO i type audo apt-get kcheckers?
[07:27] <dli> fusionxn1, still doesn't sound chinese :(
[07:27] <dribble> soodoh
[07:28] <fusionxn1> dli - i watch too many movies
[07:28] <dli> fusionxn1, sudo apt-get update
[07:28] <HazemMohamed> fusionxn1: it used to execute commands by root user
[07:28] <fusionxn1> dribble lol
[07:28] <DarkMageZ> anyone know how i can get firefox to minimize to tray under gnome?
[07:28] <Homicide187> avis, advanced math??
[07:28] <Homicide187> lol
[07:28] <fusionxn1> dark - you got the extentiopn?
[07:28] <fusionxn1> on*
[07:28] <avis> i like the interoperability of applications between xservers.
[07:29] <DarkMageZ> fusionxn1, which extention from where ? :P
[07:29] <avis> sorry, Homicide187, i thought you were a homicide detective
[07:29] <fusionxn1> the firefox extention
[07:29] <Homicide187> haha yeah right
[07:29] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: heey well that screwed up e17 totally. now i only have shadows and nothing else. after doing ctrl+alt+backspace..
[07:29] <avis> hehe
[07:29] <dribble> and sudoku is japanese btw :p
[07:29] <Homicide187> well, anywho i did that, but it gave me an error
[07:29] <Homicide187> it says something about not being able to update
[07:29] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: enlightenment doesnt normally depend on composition
[07:29] <fusionxn1> DARK: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2110/
[07:30] <Homicide187> seems to work fine
[07:30] <Vhata> dribble: sudoku is not japanese
[07:30] <DarkMageZ> fusionxn1, there are thousands of extentions for firefox. were can i find the one you are thinking of
[07:30] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker:  that is weird. well i guess i remove it again.
[07:30] <fusionxn1> NVM not for linux x(
[07:30] <jorge__> will running ktorrent in ubuntu make it look ugly?
[07:30] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: e17 is still in beta testing.
[07:30] <Vhata> dribble: the word is, I suppose, but not the puzzle ;-)
[07:30] <dribble> Vhata, yes it is? http://www.japanesetranslator.co.uk/portfolio/sudoku/
[07:30] <dribble> Vhata, alright.
[07:31] <lumgwada> Can anyone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18987 and tell me if ubuntu's Evolution program would have a problem with the format? I cant seem to get tasks but I can ger attpointments... thanks in advance.
[07:31] <fusionxn1> DARK try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2831/
[07:31] <lumgwada> sorry the paste is an ics file
[07:31] <NightwishFreak> goodevening everyone!
[07:32] <dli> dribble, sudoku is in ubuntu: ksudoku
[07:32] <Toys> Dependencies.... whats that?
[07:32] <fusionxn1> dli - kcheckers ftp is SLOW
[07:32] <fusionxn1> 594b/s
[07:33] <Toys> i need to install a curl and i'm having trouble doing that
[07:33] <carthik> I want to install xfree86-driver-synaptics but when I do an apt-get install, it says "Not, selecting blah instead of what-i-wanted." how do I get it to install what I want?
[07:33] <fusionxn1> I here you can install serious sam 2 on linux as it has a linux bin is that true?
[07:33] <vbgunz> !font
[07:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:33] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[07:34] <jorge__> sorry, one more time: will running ktorrent in ubuntu make it look ugly?
[07:35] <dribble> jorge__, it shouldn't
[07:35] <fusionxn1> Can I install serious sam 2 on linux? or oom 3?
[07:35] <Homicide187> hey i also have an issue with my desklets
[07:35] <fusionxn1> doom*
[07:35] <Homicide187> seems like they arent transparent
[07:35] <Homicide187> and
[07:35] <dribble> Homicide187, i've found the gdesklets kinda suck...period.
[07:35] <Toys> yeah, i wanna play doom
[07:35] <Homicide187> yeah
[07:35] <jorge__> dribble: ok, thanks
[07:35] <Homicide187> like the weather one doesnt work and shit...kind of lame
[07:35] <fusionxn1> I been told it has a bin or something
[07:35] <vbgunz> !fonts
[07:35] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:35] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[07:35] <fusionxn1> how you install doom 3 ?
[07:35] <vbgunz> !doom3
[07:35] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:36] <fusionxn1> vbgunz ta
[07:36] <Asc> fusionxn1: I believe there are Linux versions of all Id games.  Including quake 3/4 and doom 3.  Haven't tried running them though.
[07:36] <dribble> Homicide187, yeah, they are, for the most part (granted, not all of them), kinda buggy
[07:36] <fusionxn1> can u run it for free on linux i have the boxed game right here
[07:37] <fusionxn1> w00t serious sam 2 is listed too
[07:37] <vbgunz> fusionxn1: you can definitely run Doom3 on Linux... and yes, you need the install CDs/DVD
[07:37] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker:  well yeah that didnt work, so it tells me it is unable to load the bling module.. dont know what that does for E17
[07:37] <Toys> how to install GZlauncher?
[07:37] <fusionxn1> So how do i install linux compatable games on ubuntu?
[07:37] <fusionxn1> obviously the exes wont run
[07:38] <dribble> bioware provides all you need to play neverwinter nights, sans cd-key.  'case anybody was wondering ;-)
[07:38] <fusionxn1> Does it run the same as in windows
[07:38] <Asc> A mysters that is, fusion, but you might ckeck ID's website, or google for 'linux doom 3 install'
[07:38] <needhelp> has anyone installed ubuntu and used modem to connect to internet?
[07:38] <Asc> *mystery
[07:38] <fusionxn1> asc googling....
[07:39] <Asc> needhep: I've done it with an external modem, but not with a winmodem
[07:39] <dribble> wow, i haven't even seen a dialup modem since 1998
[07:40] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: did you install e17 from a repo? or did you build it from source?
[07:40] <needhelp> asc: im using an external.  did you configure anything after install other than dialup?  Network window shows sensed DNS addresses.  Just not getting out
[07:40] <fusionxn1> dribble lol UK got adsl in 2000s
[07:40] <dli> dribble, I never saw a modem utill 1996
[07:41] <dribble> wow all around.
[07:41] <fusionxn1> DOOM 3 bins are here: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux
[07:41] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker:  from a howto
[07:41] <fusionxn1> how do we use the .run?
[07:41] <ttyfscker> Ackeubu_:: was it an ubuntu specific howto or just a linux howto?
[07:41] <needhelp> Im not rich like you all!  Then again, why all is using Ubuntu free?
[07:42] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: ubuntu i believe
[07:42] <Ackeubu_> ttyfscker: yeah
[07:42] <ttyfscker> needhelp:: the best things in life are free
[07:42] <Asc> needhelp: do 'ifconfig' in a console and read me the 'inet addr' from the second line of the entry for ppp0?
[07:43] <jorge__> are there any distros that allow write access to ntfs out of the box?
[07:43] <dribble> ttyfscker, haha just noticed your handle.  clever.
[07:43] <ttyfscker> jorge__:: i doubt it from out of the box.
[07:43] <ttyfscker> aint too many linux dists that come in a box
[07:43] <xris_> jorge: I heard of one... but can't remember what.
[07:43] <fusionxn1> DAM serious sam 2 linux port is almost finished but they are still deving it
[07:43] <needhelp> I loaded Puppy linux and it could surf right away.  Ubuntu not so lucky.
[07:43] <xris_> might be gentoo..
[07:44] <ttyfscker> gentoo definately doesnt come in a box
[07:44] <dribble> well, gentoo doesn't really come with anything 'out of the box'
[07:44] <dribble> gentoo comes with whatever you want gentoo to come with
[07:44] <ttyfscker> gentoo will build however you want it to..
[07:44] <dribble> muhaha
[07:44] <jorge__> but writing to ntfs is still somewhat safe, right?
[07:45] <ttyfscker> jorge__:: what is the reason you want to write to ntfs?
[07:45] <needhelp> ok
[07:45] <dribble> jorge__, i may be outdated, but last i checked (a while ago) ntfs writing was still experimental.
[07:45] <bruenig> !ntfs
[07:45] <dribble> reading is fine
[07:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:45] <ttyfscker> dribble:: ntfs writing still is
[07:45] <ttyfscker> just compiled 2.6.17.7 about 4 hours ago
[07:45] <dribble> ttyfscker, glad to know i'm not that behind the times
[07:45] <fusionxn1> Anyone able to find how to install doom 3 on linux
[07:46] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: get the doom linux installer from id's website
[07:46] <jorge__> i was reading this  http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15196
[07:46] <ttyfscker> and use the 3 cd's that come with it and follow ID's instructions
[07:46] <fusionxn1> its a .run file
[07:46] <fusionxn1> ID's instructions where?
[07:46] <dribble> fusionxn1, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[07:46] <fusionxn1> drib thanks mate
[07:46] <dribble> don't play it , but google does help :-p
[07:47] <bruenig> !google
[07:47] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[07:47] <fusionxn1> it looks ocmplicated
[07:47] <needhelp> asc:  How do I execute a shell?
[07:47] <fusionxn1> dribble - i LWAYS google first
[07:47] <fusionxn1> ALWAYS*
[07:47] <dribble> may be - don't be afraid of the console . . .
[07:47] <fusionxn1> i tried doom 3 linux ubuntu tho
[07:48] <Asc> needhelp: good question.  I haven't used gnome in a while.
[07:48] <fusionxn1> seems easy - copy over 5 files or something
[07:48] <dribble> fusionxn1, goforit!
[07:48] <needhelp> asc:  what are you using?
[07:49] <fusionxn1> @6:50am nah ill try later on after some sleep lol
[07:49] <dribble> splitness
[07:49] <ttyfscker> dang
[07:49] <Generic> Net Split!!!!!
[07:49] <ttyfscker> i wonder why i always see netsplits but i never am in one
[07:49] <fusionxn1> Anyone have a X-FI SOUNDCARD?
[07:49] <alienseer23> hello
[07:49] <Asc> needhelp: you can start one by going to the upper-left menu when at the desktop... then the first menu below that (should be 'accessories' or something) and look for a 'terminal' or 'console' program
[07:50] <Asc> needhelp: I'm using ion3
[07:50] <fusionxn1> Doesn't say what to do with the .run
[07:50] <masquerade> ttyfscker, you are in one, to the person on the other side of the netsplit...
[07:50] <alienseer23> lets start by...can anyone see me????
[07:50] <rocky> I'm having trouble suspending my laptop it's running Ubuntu Dapper Drake can anyone help  ;)
[07:50] <alienseer23> please?
[07:50] <masquerade> alienseer23, no, you're invisible
[07:50] <alienseer23> cool
[07:50] <Asc> alienseer23: no, you're in invisible mode
[07:50] <needhelp> asc:  You are correct.  running!
[07:50] <alienseer23> now I am online with linux!!!
[07:51] <alienseer23> first linux install
[07:51] <needhelp> asc:; dont know how I missed that
[07:51] <Asc> glee | alienseer23
[07:51] <dribble> alienseer23, congrats...i think.
[07:51] <alienseer23> had alot of issues with my wmp54g
[07:51] <fusionxn1> Who typed the website with the list of linux games?
[07:51] <dribble> ahh yeah, then definitely congrats!
[07:51] <alienseer23> finally got it to work, was in here earlier as aliendream23
[07:51] <fusionxn1> Like doom 3 etc on
[07:51] <hoehaver> i have a question. if i take my master hard drive (udunbt 6.06) out and hook it up as a slave on another machine, that is running windows xp. can windows access it. the filesystem i have is Extended 3.
[07:51] <dribble> hoehaver, no
[07:51] <alienseer23> now I have a new question
[07:51] <alienseer23> :D
[07:52] <kbg_20> dribble: why not?
[07:52] <dribble> windows read ext3?
[07:52] <needhelp> asc: 4.226.180.46
[07:52] <dribble> kbg_20
[07:52] <hoehaver> damn..
[07:52] <dribble> i don't think so?
[07:52] <alienseer23> can anyone help me figgure out witch nvidea driver to download?
[07:52] <kbg_20> dribble, hoehaver: i mean using a external software
[07:52] <fusionxn1> quake 4 is on linux too! happy days
[07:52] <hoehaver> can we cuss in here?
[07:52] <needhelp> asc: which sounds right
[07:52] <dribble> kbg_20, ah.  point taken
[07:52] <userundefine> hoehaver, family channel
[07:52] <kbg_20> dribble, hoehaver: like http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[07:52] <hoehaver> family channel?
[07:52] <alienseer23> I am uncertain of the linux driver to dl and how to get it to install, i tried what I thought should work and ubuntu won't read it
[07:52] <needhelp> Asc:  Ill see if I can ping it.
[07:52] <Asc> da.  Hmm.
[07:53] <dribble> kbg_20, goes to show, i learn something new everyday.
[07:53] <userundefine> hoehaver, yes.
[07:53] <ic56> !language
[07:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:53] <Asc> needhelp: I'm trying to ping you and it's not working, but that might be unrelated.
[07:53] <dribble> hoehaver, apologies -- seems i was mistaken.
[07:54] <needhelp> Asc:  ping works on that ip, modem flashes when receiving packets.  Now whats Firefoxes problem?
[07:54] <dribble> kbg_20, but..that's for ext2
[07:54] <kbg_20> dribble: it works for ext3 too...i use it myself :)
[07:54] <dribble> kbg_20, good to know :p
[07:54] <fusionxn1> Thank you to everyone in the chat that has helped me tonight/this morning.
[07:54] <hoehaver> mistaken about what?
[07:54] <varsendaggr> hey how do i print to PDF?
[07:54] <Asc> needhelp: try going to the network settings control panel.  click the modem, click properties, and to to the 'options' tab.  There's a checkbox labled 'Set modem as default route to the internet'.  It should be checked.
[07:54] <dribble> hoehaver, reading ext3 from windows
[07:54] <fusionxn1> I'm gonna grab some sleep then I may install linux tomorrow as my main and only OS
[07:55] <fusionxn1> If I may ask - can you download ubuntu themes?
[07:55] <rocky> good for you fusionxn1
[07:55] <hoehaver> so windows can access that hard drive
[07:55] <hoehaver> ?
[07:55] <fusionxn1> rocky - :)
[07:55] <userundefine> fusionxn1, yes, lots
[07:55] <kbg_20> fusionxn1: great decision!!
[07:55] <fusionxn1> user - where?
[07:55] <kbg_20> hoehaver: ya sure it can
[07:55] <userundefine> fusionxn1, gnome-look.org or kde-look.org
[07:56] <hoehaver> ok, thanks you
[07:56] <dribble> fusionxn1, immersion is the best way.  never really -got- linux until i stopped dual booting.  however, if you rely on 0day games and such -- i'd suggest keeping a small windows partition
[07:56] <fusionxn1> cheers - and doom 3 and quake 4 on linux is awsome move for ID lets hope prey gets linux support
[07:56] <Toys> does anyone play on Zdaemon?
[07:56] <fusionxn1> dribble i do game quite a bit but windows is driving me insane
[07:57] <fusionxn1> as long as my sound works (X-FI) with no drivers for now ill go ubuntu i reakon
[07:57] <needhelp> Asc:  It is checked.  I can ping ISP Ip address, But I cannont ping DNS servers...
[07:57] <needhelp> Asc:;; that is unusual using other cpu's in the house
[07:57] <fusionxn1> Right now - im on vmware under windows
[07:57] <kbg_20> i got a doubt about nautilus in ubuntu....does t have some kind of smb support built into it by default? coz when i alt+f2 and type in smb://<ip> it opens up nautilus to show the windows shares but my friend on gentoo isnt able to get the same result..
[07:58] <fusionxn1> Is there any virus, adware, spyware out on linux yet?
[07:58] <Asc> needhelp: hum.  I suppose the 'use ISP nameservers' box is also checked, yes?
[07:58] <timbo2> hallo
[07:58] <userundefine> fusionxn1, no.
[07:58] <dribble> kbg_20, i've found there is samba client support in ubuntu.
[07:58] <dribble> by default
[07:58] <fusionxn1> * drops to the floor
[07:58] <dribble> welcome back.  hah
[07:58] <Agrajag> yes, there are viruses, but they are few and far between
[07:58] <timbo2> i dont know
[07:58] <userundefine> fusionxn1, there are theoretical viruses, and some in labs, but no virus has ever spread on linux.
[07:58] <kbg_20> fusionxn1: i think yes..otherwise, why would there be a separate anti virus prog for linux?
[07:58] <Agrajag> and most of them can't do a whole lot of damage
[07:59] <fusionxn1> kbg - there is?
[07:59] <Agrajag> kbg_20: most linux AV programs scan for windows viruses
[07:59] <Asc> I think there's an antivirus program for linux, but I can't think of any use for it
[07:59] <fusionxn1> DO you need a firewall on linux (got NAT so no need for em)
[07:59] <userundefine> what Agrajag said
[07:59] <dribble> Asc, serverside
[07:59] <Agrajag> Asc: they'r eused very often in mail servers
[07:59] <fusionxn1> agra thats great news
[07:59] <kbg_20> dribble: any idea how it can be enabled? smb client for nautilus?
[07:59] <timbo2> i was woundering wat the gst-register
[07:59] <fusionxn1> linux must really be sucure
[07:59] <Asc> ah, right
[07:59] <kbg_20> Agrajag: oh..is it so? thanks for letting me know..
[07:59] <fusionxn1> secure*
[07:59] <Ivanowitch> If you do need antiviruw for linux, you can try www.avast.com
[07:59] <userundefine> fusionxn1, you don't *need* one if you aren't running open ports, which is by default.  you *can* set one up if you want...
[07:59] <Asc> fusionL that, or nobody targets it
[07:59] <needhelp> Asc:  yes that box is checked.  It even shows the dns address in that windows
[07:59] <Asc> or both
[07:59] <kbg_20> fusionxn1: it sure is as secure as you want it to be ;)
[08:00] <dribble> kbg_20, within dapper, it's on by default places->network servers
[08:00] <Agrajag> it's fairly secure. Just don't do anything silly like install a bunch of internet-facing services without understanding what you are doing.
[08:00] <fusionxn1> i think i found my new best friend - ubuntu :)
[08:00] <fusionxn1> sod windows
[08:00] <timbo2> eny one know how to work gst-register
[08:00] <needhelp> Asc:  is there a firewall I must open?
[08:00] <dribble> fusionxn1, haha.  i've bounced arount from distro to distro, and ubuntu is pretty dern nice.
[08:00] <kbg_20> dribble: i know how to use it in dapper..but what i want to know if i can kind of enable it or something in gentoo..
[08:00] <fusionxn1> Hows does everyone fell about another one joining the ubuntu side?
[08:00] <fusionxn1> feel*
[08:00] <userundefine> fusionxn1, more the merrier
[08:01] <kbg_20> fusionxn1: great :) welcome to the tribe!!
[08:01] <fusionxn1> I wish it would be faster booting tho
[08:01] <Asc> needhelp: I doubt it.  Do you have any other network connections?  Ethernet or whatever?
[08:01] <needhelp> asc:  no
[08:01] <alienseer23> please help, I have an nvidea gforce card, an amd 2800+ cpu and don't know which driver to grab, the linux ia32, or ia64
[08:01] <dribble> kbg_20, ahh.  yeah.  i used gentoo for a good couple'a years and never really figured every thing out.  If i had to guess, it would be adding the +samba useflag when building nautilus/gnome
[08:01] <userundefine> fusionxn1, you can turn off services you aren't going to use and boot up will be quicker.
[08:01] <fusionxn1> Ill do a little more testing tomorrow and I may just format but I would say ubuntu kicks indows ass even vista
[08:01] <fusionxn1> user - how may i ask
[08:02] <userundefine> fusionxn1, there is a good howto on the forums.
[08:02] <kbg_20> dribble: ok..any idea where the official nautilus channel is? doesnt seem to be on freenode..?
[08:02] <alienseer23> how do I do this, please?
[08:02] <dribble> kbg_20, no idea, but #gentoo is always busy
[08:02] <fusionxn1> www.ubuntu.com - my reference quicker :p
[08:02] <timbo2>  come on giys how do i do a gst register!!!!!
[08:02] <kbg_20> dribble :)
[08:02] <needhelp> Asc:  Sorry, I do have a cat5 going to a router.  I could "deactivate that I suppose.
[08:02] <Ivanowitch> fusionxn1, you might also try to disable automatic configuration of netowork devices you don't use
[08:02] <fusionxn1> Does anyone order ship cd's for themselves?
[08:03] <Ivanowitch> worked wonders for me
[08:03] <Asc> needhelp: just check if it's got the 'default internte connection' box checked
[08:03] <Madpilot> fusionxn1, lots of people - I've got a batch of Dapper CDs coming
[08:03] <dribble> kbg_20, np ;)
[08:03] <timbo2> fine then dont talk to me
[08:03] <fusionxn1> I onyl got one batch i tried ot get some more but they never came
[08:03] <fusionxn1> i only got 5.04 ones
[08:03] <fusionxn1> 7am w00t
[08:03] <fusionxn1> rocky you only got 5.04?
[08:03] <alienseer23> please?
[08:04] <dribble> alienseer23, amd athlon?
[08:04] <fusionxn1> user - i cant find the guide you was talking about
[08:04] <Asc> needhelp: This is puzzlesome.  Are you connection from the computer in question?
[08:04] <alienseer23> yeah
[08:04] <alienseer23> socket a
[08:04] <needhelp> Asc:  no.
[08:04] <rocky> nah fusionxn1 have updated to DD online
[08:04] <dribble> alienseer23, that's x86 ('least my athlon 2200+ is)
[08:04] <fusionxn1> DD?
[08:05] <fusionxn1> Im on 6.06 right now
[08:05] <alienseer23> so the 32
[08:05] <Mitrovarr> since I have apparently forgotten everything I ever knew about networking (which is depressing), I need some help.  I'm trying to get one ubuntu computer to connect to the internet through another.  Basically, I'm trying to ethernet a laptop to a desktop, which has a wireless card, which connects to a wireless router.  Any ideas?
[08:05] <rocky> yeah Dapper Drake 6.06
[08:05] <Mitrovarr> do I need to use two layers of NAT?
[08:05] <userundefine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[08:05] <Asc> needhelp: Could you try 'netcat -l -p 10000' in the console?  It may or may not mean anything if it does/doesn't work, but I want to try it. ;p
[08:05] <userundefine> fusionxn1, ^
[08:05] <fusionxn1> ta mate
[08:05] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: you're trying to do something marginally complicated
[08:05] <dribble> alienseer23, your issue is the nvidia drivers?
[08:06] <jron> this is kind of driving me crazy, but in an xterm, say i launch mplayer, how can i make it detach from the terminal i must be way off on the wording of this as i can't find anything on google.
[08:06] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  I know, I feel totally lame for not being able to do it myself
[08:06] <alienseer23> the command they tell me to type does not work
[08:06] <userundefine> fusionxn1, just make sure you know what you need before you turn it off.  when in doubt, leave it on.
[08:06] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: it is marginally complicated
[08:06] <dribble> alienseer23, what are you looking at?  url?
[08:06] <nevyn> two layers of nat is one option
[08:06] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Yes, but I took 30 credits of network engineering.  I should be able to handle marginally complicated.
[08:06] <fusionxn1> ill do it tomorrow thanks user
[08:06] <alienseer23> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia64_1.0-5336.html
[08:06] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Long time ago though.
[08:06] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: the other is to setup a seperate subnet and then do routing on the machine with two network cards
[08:06] <fusionxn1> when 6.10 comes out ill order some more cds
[08:07] <fusionxn1> I like the ideo of the live cd + install cd
[08:07] <nevyn> and tell the gateway to nat both subnets
[08:07] <fusionxn1> idea*
[08:07] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  I set up the laptop/desktop network as being 192.168.1.0 and the other one as 192.168.0.0
[08:07] <nevyn> and how to get to the second machine
[08:07] <dribble> alienseer23, distro-specific instructions are always better/cleaner. :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:07] <fusionxn1> That reminds me - how are nvidias drivers on linux
[08:07] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: ok so you'll need some static routes.
[08:07] <fusionxn1> i got a 7900gt and want the driver :)
[08:07] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: so that the gateway knows how to reach the machine on 192.168.1.1
[08:07] <dribble> fusionxn1, quite quick
[08:07] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  heh, that's what I thought.  I was trying to do this myself but I don't know linux routing
[08:07] <alienseer23> lemme read
[08:08] <alienseer23> ...weird
[08:08] <fusionxn1> !nvidia ????
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvidia ???? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <Agrajag> !nvidia
[08:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:08] <alienseer23> gotta warning about a bl;ocked port wont go away
[08:08] <Agrajag> don't confuse the bot
[08:08] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: have you used a dynamic routing protocol before?
[08:08] <nevyn> what os is the machine with the wifi and ethernet running?
[08:08] <Mitrovarr> what, like RIP?  I'm absolutely certain my wireless router doesn't support dynamic routing
[08:08] <alienseer23> brb
[08:08] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: most support rip
[08:08] <fusionxn1> For azureus do you need to open a port on ubuntu itsself?
[08:08] <Mitrovarr> it's just a little consumer router
[08:08] <dribble> alienseer23, all the drivers/kernel modules you need for nvidia support are in the package database
[08:09] <nevyn> it's usally hidden under advanced somewhere
[08:09] <alienseer23> really?
[08:09] <alienseer23> how do I get them to activate then?
[08:09] <Mitrovarr> well, I'll check
[08:09] <fusionxn1> ubotu it dont mention 7900s
[08:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about it dont mention 7900s - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:09] <carthik> I did a modprobe bcm43xx and now the computer is stuck - no mouse/kb, nothing, should I just power it off now?
[08:09] <alpaca> my install process is extremely slow, especially in portions which deal with disk partitioning, i cant even get past that step.
[08:09] <fusionxn1> so what i do
[08:09] <dribble> alienseer23, yeah, you have to open up the 'restricted' section of the repository
[08:09] <alienseer23> k
[08:09] <fusionxn1> dam bot cant say its name without a search
[08:09] <Ivanowitch> fusionxn1, i doubt it, as long as your router and firewall opens up, either by UPnP or manually
[08:09] <needhelp> Asc:  NC does not like ttyS0
[08:09] <fusionxn1> k thanks
[08:10] <fusionxn1> anyone got a nvidia 7 series in here
[08:10] <dribble> alienseer23, everything you need is in the ubuntu wiki
[08:10] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  I don't know.  I dont' see any settings in here, so if it does it doesn't have any options for it
[08:11] <alienseer23> k
[08:11] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  The idea of running dynamic routing on my little home net is pretty funny though
[08:11] <Asc> needhelp: meh.  What sort of error message?
[08:11] <needhelp> Asc:  I did see something interesting.  When I click "Try Again in firefox,  the modem lights flash for sure.
[08:11] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: not really
[08:11] <alpaca> does anyone know what could be causing my install to hang?
[08:11] <nevyn> it's fun and scalable
[08:11] <fusionxn1> Why dont the WMV codecs work in VLC?
[08:11] <dribble> alienseer23, to give you a frame of reference tho -- the default ubuntu repositories are 'clean' strictly gpl.  when you enable the extra repositories you gain access to more/other software.
[08:12] <alienseer23> ok
[08:12] <fusionxn1> alpaca at what point
[08:12] <nevyn> you compramise your freedom for some convienience
[08:12] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Oh, I used to work with dynamic routing protocols so I know.  It's just kind of frivolous for such a small network
[08:12] <alienseer23> I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:12] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: yes and no.
[08:12] <needhelp> Asc:  invalid local port
[08:12] <dribble> alienseer23, for an nvidia card, thats exactly where you want to be ;)
[08:12] <alienseer23> happy
[08:12] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: it's somewhat cleaner than doing all the static routing
[08:13] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: you didn't say what os the machine in the middle runs
[08:13] <peej> Mitrovarr : when is dynamic routing appropriate?
[08:13] <carthik> There seems to be absolutely no way to get the wireless card in my laptop to work with a 64bit kernel :(
[08:13] <Mitrovarr> nevyn: the laptop does xubuntu, the desktop does ubuntu, and the router has something else
[08:13] <dribble> gawd -- i'm just about joey donefur -- g'nite all.  or 'mornin depending on where yah are ;)
[08:14] <Mitrovarr> peej:  Oh, I don't know, when it stops being easier to make the static routes than make dynamic routing work
[08:14] <alpaca> fusionxn1 - at the part where i choose my partitions
[08:14] <Mitrovarr> peef: probably around 3 routers.  Unless you change the topology constantly, in which case dynamic is always what you want
[08:14] <Asc> needhelp: that is a bit odd.  I've seen it before, but no idea what caused it.
[08:14] <Mitrovarr> peej:  I can't type today :-p
[08:14] <Asc> needhelp: Is there another browser on the computer you can try?
[08:15] <fusionxn1> alpaca - sorry i dont know why :9 i thought it might be the rror i had :(
[08:15] <SurfnKid> anyone know why my SHIFT LEFT or RIGHT do not work anymore with XGL
[08:15] <eXistenZ> morning
[08:15] <SurfnKid> or is this like a come and go incident where I'll get those keys back
[08:15] <varsendaggr> SurfnKid, you can get some help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:16] <Asc> Lynx doesn't come with ubuntu, does it?
[08:16] <SurfnKid> varsendaggr, yeah no luck yet but thanks :)
[08:16] <varsendaggr> hey how do i print to PDF?
[08:16] <sots> alguem ai fala portugueis ?
[08:16] <Mitrovarr> a long long time ago I was trained in the major dynamic routing protocols but i've forgotten nearly all of it
[08:16] <SurfnKid> brb
[08:16] <Mitrovarr> not having ever used it
[08:16] <Ivanowitch> asc, no, but it is in the repositories
[08:16] <varsendaggr> i have the cups package
[08:16] <SurfnKid> eigrp,igrp,bgp and all those?
[08:16] <peej> Asc: it does
[08:16] <drib|sleep> SurfnKid, 'cuase XGL is still pretty far from stable
[08:17] <carthik> I am all ready to give up on getting the AMD64 kernel working on my laptop, any amd64 users here who can say a few good words regarding using the 64-bit machine with a 32-bit kernel?
[08:17] <SurfnKid> drib|sleep, but its been running fine for the past 3 weeks, just now my shift key doesnt work :(
[08:17] <Mitrovarr> eigrp, igrp, rip, and the other one.... I think it starts with an o
[08:17] <Asc> I'll call that odds on then.
[08:17] <peej> Asc: at least on breezy
[08:17] <SurfnKid> ospf
[08:17] <Mitrovarr> not much in bgp, just a little
[08:17] <Sarra_> Wow, there's activity here 24/7. ;D
[08:17] <Asc> Ah.
[08:17] <Sarra_> I know to install Windows before Linux, due to the bootloader issues that Windows has
[08:17] <SurfnKid> Sarra_, there's always a party here
[08:17] <Mitrovarr> plus some switch configuration, troubleshooting, the works.  I had a CCNA and a CCNP but they expired
[08:17] <redblades> Okay, hi
[08:17] <SurfnKid> Mitrovarr, yeah theyre useless now :P
[08:17] <SurfnKid> brb
[08:17] <Sarra_> However, if I wanted to install Windows, linux, and FreeBSD on one system, what order should I install them in?
[08:17] <Mitrovarr> they got useless RIGHT after I got them
[08:18] <Mitrovarr> still, I learned a lot
[08:18] <Mitrovarr> I learned I didn't want to work in the field <laughs>  I ended up majoring in biology instead
[08:18] <fusionxn1> Anyone know how to install xlink KAI?
[08:18] <redblades> For some weird reason, I'm getting a notification of updates for kde stuff. even though I don't use KDE!
[08:18] <Mitrovarr> which is equally usless
[08:19] <redblades> How can I clear something from the updates?
[08:19] <drib|sleep> redblades, do you have any qt software installed?
[08:19] <drib|sleep> redblades, such as amarok
[08:19] <redblades> drip|sleep no
[08:20] <drib|sleep> redblades, now that is weird ;)
[08:20] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: I have a number of vmware server installs at work all with host only networking dynamic is the bom
[08:20] <redblades> drib|sleep,  no
[08:20] <redblades> Yeah, sorry I mispelt your name
[08:20] <_jim_> hi guys , i have an EMT64 - should i install 32 bit version of Dapper Drake ? I have already installed 64 bit but im having many problems and difficulties :/ - does the 32 bit be slower than 64 bit dapper ?
[08:20] <drib|sleep> bah, i'm done, redblades -- that's weird, and i don't take offense ;p , but this guy's gotta hit the sack.  sleeping at work just doesn't quite cut it anymore.
[08:20] <gleesond> can anyone get to my site.... I can see it localy but there is no way for me to see if the outside world can see it: http://offthecob.ath.cx
[08:21] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  It used to feel so buggy I never wanted to trust it.  The only time I really liked it was when we had a good protocol like EIRGP or OSPF going on a large network
[08:21] <CharlieSu> I installed windows XP after installing ubuntu and now my MBR is messed up and no grub is showing.. how can i fix this really fast with Live CD?
[08:21] <epidemik> how can i tell what process is using a port
[08:21] <epidemik> ?
[08:21] <gleesond> epidemik: netstat
[08:21] <alienseer23> it's working, i love it when things work
[08:21] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: ospf is a mixed blessing
[08:21] <caturOK> hello
[08:21] <epidemik> oooooo
[08:21] <epidemik> thats a lot lol
[08:21] <epidemik> thanks
[08:22] <epidemik> is there any way i can list just 1 port?
[08:22] <needhelp> Asc:  you are not going to believe this.  I go make sandwich, come back, click try again,  Web page of ubuntu cameup.  how weird is that?
[08:22] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  I remember getting multicast going was a headache and a half, but I liked it at least as well as eigrp
[08:22] <Asc> needhelp: it might be cached locally.  Try google?
[08:23] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  No doubt developements in the field have totally obsoleted my knowledge though
[08:23] <nevyn> it's as elegant as eigrp.. without the.. $30000 entry fee
[08:23] <thejoe> what is the best RSS reader for ubuntu??
[08:23] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: it's all about O
[08:23] <epidemik> gleesond, can i list just one port
[08:23] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: it's all about OLSR now
[08:23] <Asc> needhelp: actually, that's odd either way.
[08:23] <needhelp> Asc:  well it was virgin install.  ill try
[08:23] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  That must be new.  It's not even in wikipedia
[08:23] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: wifi mesh routing protocol
[08:23] <Sarra_> CharlieSu: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[08:23] <nevyn> very very shiny
[08:24] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  ah.. no one likes cables anymore
[08:24] <caturOK> how to accounting with nocat
[08:24] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: I still prefer cables everywhere I can use them
[08:24] <varsendaggr> hey o got pdf prionting to work
[08:24] <needhelp> Asc:  google is up!  Where'd that Gremlin go?
[08:24] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Sure makes this house nicer though.  I can't even begin to guess how to run wires through a house with ugly cables everywhere or ripping out the walls.
[08:25] <Asc> needhelp: he probably went back in time to fiddle with my kernel installation
[08:25] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Kind of depends on what the network is for.  Wireless is fine if you just wanna share internet access or something, but if you're shipping large files around or backing up over the network, forget it
[08:26] <epidemik> how can i tell what process is using port 51234
[08:26] <epidemik> ?
[08:26] <rob_p> epidemik:  You can filter the results of the netstat command if that helps.  Try something along the lines of, "sudo netstat -tlpn | grep <port>" to see what process is using it.
[08:26] <_jim_> i have an EMT64 - should i install 32 bit version of Dapper Drake ? I have already installed 64 bit but im having many problems and difficulties :/ - does the 32 bit be slower than 64 bit dapper ?
[08:26] <rocky> sorry gleesond have tried to open it in Opera , FireFox & matecan do afari no
[08:26] <Asc> epidemik: might try netstat | grep 51234
[08:27] <rocky> sorry gleesond have tried to open it in Opera , FireFox & matecan do afari no can do mate
[08:27] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  I can't imagine how easy the spammers and crackers have it now with unsecured wireless everywhere.  Just park on main, find a network, and go nuts.  No one will ever have any idea who it was.
[08:27] <Asc> epidemik: also you can get nmap and do a port scan on yourself
[08:27] <rocky> and Safari
[08:27] <Ivanowitch> epidemik you can also use netstat -p
[08:27] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: that's it.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> Mitrovarr: most unsecured wireless networks block port 25
[08:28] <Asc> needhelp: the next thing I was going to suggest was cycling the interface with 'sudo ifdown ppp0;sudo ifup ppp0' - that's resolved network problems for me once or twice in the past.
[08:28] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  The amount of spam I've seen says otherwise
[08:28] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: the thing that is cool in wireless is wireless switching is kinda shiny
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Mitrovarr: I said /most/
[08:28] <Asc> needhelp: Might be worth a try if it happens again.  But it probably won't.
[08:28] <caturOK> anybody here have conf nocat
[08:28] <rocky> gtg cya later
[08:29] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  Most good ISPs block it, but clearly there's enough left to do damage.  Sucks for people who want to run their own mailserver without being spammers, I'd imagine.
[08:29] <epidemik> okay, another question :P
[08:29] <epidemik> im a noob sorry
[08:29] <epidemik> i installed something using wine, how do i uninstall it?
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> Mitrovarr: that's when you hook up to a smarthost :)
[08:29] <needhelp> Asc:  Well thank you for helping me.  I learned a couple new commands and what to look for.  I have used M$ products for so long and been wanting to go Linux for years.  But its hard to give up M$ tho problematic and in this case, helped in the solution.  Ill probably keep an old  windoze laptop for times like these.
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: just run the uninstaller program, or delete its files.
[08:30] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  No doubt.  How do they block spammers?  Do they shut you down if you have too much activity on that port or wait for complaints?
[08:30] <fusionxn1> Guys, i have googled and searched the forums im stuck on installing xlink kai
[08:30] <Ivanowitch> epidemik, remember linux means no obscure registry :D
[08:30] <Asc> needhelp: glad I could try, even if I wasn't very useful. :)
[08:30] <needhelp> Asc:  Now,  I wonder if I should "r
[08:30] <Mitrovarr> Ivanowitch:  Wine still has it though
[08:30] <caturOK> du dud udu
[08:30] <epidemik> hey fyrestrtr, thanks for the help the othernight, sorry i had to leave abruptly and didnt get to say thanks.
[08:30] <_jim_> hey guys i want to ask something about 64 bit and 32 bit version... can anyone help me ??????
[08:30] <needhelp> Asc: reactivate that ethernet card.  Hmmm.  Hate to mess up the Inet now.
[08:30] <caturOK> no body want help me
[08:30] <epidemik> fyrestrtr, so anyways, where are those files?
[08:31] <Asc> needhelp: fatalistic optimism dictates that you must
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: the program's data files? They will be in your fake windows directory.
[08:31] <epidemik> fyrestrtr, and how do i get there
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> Mitrovarr: no, they just block port 25
[08:31] <needhelp> ASC: I think your greatest contribution was finding that terminal.  Dont know how I missed that menu selection.
[08:31] <epidemik> fyrestrtr, you gotta remember im a complete noob
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: depends on your wine setup, how did you manage to install the program?
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: generally, its ~/.wine
[08:32] <Ivanowitch> epicemic, most of the time, it is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[08:32] <Mitrovarr> anyone had good luck with wine or cedega running games?
[08:32] <Mitrovarr> I've tried, but man, nothing works
[08:32] <epidemik> fyrestrtr, well i downloaded it, i clicked next, clicked next, clicked i agree and then it installed
[08:32] <Asc> needhelp: Learning to use the console is the best thing that ever happened to me.
[08:32] <needhelp> Asc: Now to find an irc prog for dummies.  this one is free but sucks.
[08:32] <epidemik> fyrestrtr, i have no idea where it is
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> Mitrovarr: first thing, http://appdb.winehq.org -- check what works, and what doesn't.
[08:32] <Asc> needhelp: xchat is decent.  also there is 'irc' for the console.
[08:33] <epidemik> fyrestrtr, i havent changed any wine settings so itll be the default wine dirrectory
[08:33] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  I did.  The games I want are on the busted list
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: its in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Mitrovarr: then you are SOL
[08:33] <Madpilot> needhelp, in which OS? XChat is good; Gaim does IRC but sucks at it... XChat is available for XP too, I think
[08:33] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  Heh.  At least UT2004, the most important one, has a linux port
[08:33] <Ivanowitch> epidemic, open a terminal and type cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[08:33] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  Although it has THE most irritating bug; it crashes silently if you run in a resolution larger than your desktop!
[08:34] <epidemik> Ivanowitch, okay now what?
[08:34] <Ivanowitch> type ls and start looking for your program folder
[08:34] <epidemik> okay
[08:34] <Mitrovarr> fyrestrtr:  I bet tons of people install it, configure it, have it break because they made their resolution higher (it works until you shut down) and then assume it is broken forever
[08:35] <Asc> _jim_: you there?
[08:35] <epidemik> Ivanowitch, found it, how do i cd that one, it has a space in it
[08:35] <mysir_> !it
[08:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:35] <Ivanowitch> use " around the name
[08:35] <Mitrovarr> anyone have any wine/cedega successes with games?  I'm just curious if anyone has one that works, how well it works, how fast, etc.
[08:35] <chol> epidemik, use tab
[08:35] <Ivanowitch> like cd "program folder"
[08:35] <_jim_> asc Yes
[08:36] <godtvisken> if i don't have the program `after` how can i get it? it's not in the repository i guess
[08:36] <Mitrovarr> I have had wine work with other stuff though
[08:36] <needhelp> Asc:  I typed irc at the terminal.  Now I got cursor flashing next to status.  Now what?  I cant seem to kill it.
[08:37] <epidemik> how do i run a .exe file through wine when im in terminal?
[08:37] <godtvisken> needhelp: try /quit
[08:37] <Mitrovarr> sudo wine <blank>.exe
[08:37] <Mitrovarr> err, if you want to sudo it
[08:37] <Madpilot> needhelp, ctrl+C kills things in termianl
[08:37] <Madpilot> terminal, even
[08:38] <Mitrovarr> sorry, so much configuration that I've been putting sudo in front of everything
[08:38] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: http://www.olsr.org/
[08:38] <mysir_> i find ea programm with graphic interface for iproute2 (i want to use kubuntu for load balancing with 2 provider) exuse me for my english
[08:38] <needhelp> mad:  No it dont!
[08:38] <epidemik> lol
[08:39] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Thanks.  Ad-hoc must have improved since I messed with ad-hoc networks, because when I did it ad-hoc was just another way of saying 'it doesn't work'
[08:39] <Asc> needhelp: control+x closes most command line processes
[08:39] <Madpilot> needhelp, well, normally it does. that 'irc' app you started may have taken over Ctrl+C...
[08:39] <epidemik> why did i just do that all in terminal, i couldhave just done ctrl+h in the file browser
[08:39] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  Hey, I bet this is what the $100 laptop is planning to use
[08:39] <needhelp> Am I running an IRc chat program when I type in irc?
[08:39] <Ivanowitch> because terminal is more cool :p
[08:39] <Asc> if not, /exit or /quit might also work with irc
[08:39] <nevyn> Mitrovarr: indeed
[08:40] <Madpilot> needhelp, which app are you running to be here on IRC right now?
[08:40] <_jim_> bye everyone
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> needhelp: you are running one now.
[08:40] <Mitrovarr> nevyn:  I wonder if you could run a whole city on something like that?  Just one giant amorphous ad-hoc network with lots of little uplink nodes (each house with broadband.)  The powers that be will never stand for it though.
[08:41] <needhelp> Ok, I need to use the slash key.  Hmmm. Been ten years since I tried this last.
[08:41] <Asc> needhelp: and when I say control+x, I mean control+c
[08:41] <needhelp> I am running windows with Virc
[08:42] <Asc> xchat for Linux is pretty shiny.  It does (pseudo) transparency. :)
[08:42] <Mitrovarr> well, someone needs to use this computer so I have to run off.  Thanks everyone!
[08:43] <needhelp> Asc:  i connected to freenode. /quit killed it.  I dont have xchat.  Just irc at prompt
[08:43] <mysir_> nevyn i live in italy and i have two adsl connection
[08:44] <Asc> needhelp: I think it comes pre-installed... try typing 'xchat' into the console to find out.
[08:44] <needhelp> Mad:  IM not ignoring you.  thank you.
[08:44] <nevyn> needhelp: irssi > *
[08:44] <needhelp> Asc:  i did that
[08:44] <needhelp> now how do i connect to channel?
[08:44] <Asc> ah
[08:44] <Asc>  '/join #ubuntu'
[08:45] <needhelp> Asc:  oh yes, been a long time
[08:46] <dean_> asc:  UDR?
[08:46] <Asc> dean_:Highly unlikely.  What's it stand for/
[08:46] <Asc> oh, wait
[08:47] <dean_> You There?  I made that one up.  Open to all via GPL... Hee Hee!
[08:47] <Asc> Hah, now I recognise your IP.
[08:47] <dean_> eh?
[08:47] <Asc> didn't realise you nere needhelp at first
[08:48] <Asc> *slap self*
[08:48] <driveler> any snap software support hotkey?
[08:48] <dean_> Asc:  funny, I see this on both machines!
[08:48] <dean_> Asc: Technology, gotta love it
[08:48] <epidemik> i did cd and loaded a directory, now how do i go back to the main thing
[08:48] <Asc> dean_: Nifty.
[08:49] <dean_> Tellyou what.  Hellofalot easier to see on a 19" screen than a 10".
[08:49] <driveler> any snap software support hotkey?
[08:49] <epidemik> how do i get it back to kate@kate:$
[08:49] <epidemik> rightnow its at kate@kate:
[08:50] <epidemik> ~/applications
[08:50] <epidemik> rightnow its at kate@kate:/~applications
[08:50] <zith> i have problems sshing into my ubuntu machine using putty.  when i hit C+s it locks the screen and i have to restart the session. any ideas?
[08:50] <epidemik> in termincal
[08:50] <zith> yes in terminal, not in emacs, also in man
[08:50] <Ivanowitch> epicemik, use cd .. for the folder above, cd / for root folder and cd ~ for home folder
[08:50] <dean_> Asc: Have you used Xubuntu?
[08:51] <Asc> dean_: No, haven't tried it.
[08:51] <Ivanowitch> so what you want is either cd .. or cd ~
[08:52] <Asc> dean_: Is it any different than Ubuntu running xfce?
[08:52] <Asc> Ah, never mind.  Read the page.
[08:52] <dean_> asc: I think they are the same
[08:53] <dean_> I ran across it accidently looking for help forums.
[08:53] <Asc> It looks like it tries to use faster-than-gnome apps more
[08:53] <Geev8> hi to all
[08:54] <dean_> asc: the community, help, search didnt come up with anything, it mentioned the irc so I downloaded ViRC installed on laptop and found you all.
[08:55] <dean_> Nothing like talking to people to get the help you need.
[08:55] <Asc> welcome to the wide world of excellent community support.  It's the best thing since sliced butter.
[08:55] <skavenge> anyone here install ut2004??? the sh install starts from disc 1 i try disc two wont eject force it mount #2, installer doesn't recognize it any suggestions?
[08:55] <dean_> Now to see If I can screw things up and turn on the ethernet card.
[08:56] <tabman> I'm executing a tgz file from the terminal but i get the message "cannot execute binary"
[08:56] <dean_> asc:  you know how it is, cant leave well enough alone.
[08:57] <Asc> dean_: Too right I do.  That's why I've got my desktop's main HD attached as a USB disk right now even though the last two times I tried it wouldn't boot afterward.
[08:58] <Asc> (in my defence, this time I tried to do it without mounting the boot partition writable)
[08:58] <Geev8> hey any help please my computer is very slow on opening programs than it was before what can i do to improve the speed
[08:58] <Asc> Geev8: very slow, like several seconds?
[08:58] <Geev8> yap
[08:59] <Asc> I, too, am interested in this topic.  Although you do get used to it.
[09:00] <lollerface> Hello
[09:00] <lollerface> I have a question
[09:00] <lollerface> How might I go about installing flash?
[09:01] <lollerface> I'm still not very familiar with Ubuntu, and the auto-installer didn't work.
[09:01] <Geev8> Asc: to me it happen even i try to browse it takes some second then it start to load a page
[09:01] <dean_> Asc: well irc still works but not firefox
[09:02] <tabman> I'm executing a tgz file from the terminal but i get the message "cannot execute binary file"
[09:02] <Asc> dean_: try putting 64.233.187.99 in the URL bar
[09:02] <lollerface> Hmm, how do I work that ubotu thing then?
[09:02] <lollerface> ! ubotu
[09:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:02] <lollerface> yey
[09:03] <lollerface> !ummm
[09:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about ummm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:03] <lollerface> woops lol
[09:03] <lollerface> !installing
[09:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:03] <Asc> lollerface: flash can be downloaded from here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
[09:04] <lollerface> Ah yes, thank you. It just prompted me to go to the site. Odd that it didn't before.
[09:04] <lollerface> *stabs the internet*
[09:04] <lollerface> Now I get to learn how to install :) lol
[09:04] <cmug> I installed 6.06 yesterday. For some reasons the volume for some applications (thunderbird, gaim) is extremely loud, even after I turn down the master volume. The mp3 gets quieter but not the "new mail" sound etc. What gives?
[09:05] <Asc> Geev8: what browser are you using?
[09:05] <Geev8> asc: firefox
[09:05] <lollerface> Hmm
[09:06] <lollerface> How do I navigate to a directory using command line?
[09:06] <hapka> lollerface try cd ..
[09:06] <lollerface> ??
[09:06] <alienseer23> hello
[09:06] <hapka> cd .. makes you move around
[09:06] <hapka> hi :)
[09:06] <lollerface> I'm.. not sure what you mean by cd..
[09:06] <lollerface> Type cd in to the command line?
[09:07] <alienseer23> q: apparently I got the drivers loaded for my nvidea card, but is there a simple settings interface?
[09:07] <Ivanowitch> lollerface: cd makes you move to the directory specified. the directory ".." is the directory directly above the current one
[09:07] <hapka> lollerface: ya, if you want to goto usr then type cd .. and then cd .. to get to root from home usually
[09:07] <alienseer23> my second monitor and my tv wont work
[09:07] <alienseer23> also, I keep loosing one of my partitions???
[09:08] <dean_> ASC; if I turn on ethernet, I dont get ISP connection.
[09:08] <lollerface> Ok, so if I wanted to get to home I'd type cd /home/user ?
[09:08] <dean_> asc: or should I say , I lose it.
[09:08] <hapka> alienseer23: i had problems with my partition also, i needed to use fstab its in /etc/fstab
[09:08] <hapka> fstab is a file that mounts things and stuff
[09:09] <alienseer23> easy enough
[09:09] <alienseer23> maybe for later
[09:09] <hapka> :)
[09:09] <alienseer23> more concerned about the nvidea issue
[09:09] <Corporal_Dirge> No, it's a file that mount reads to look for settings.
[09:09] <Asc> Geev8: I don't know why it would take a while to start loading.  Or, I don't know of any such thing that is fixable.
[09:09] <alienseer23> since this machine is used alot for viewing media
[09:09] <Ivanowitch> lollerface yes, but you can also use cd ~, as ~ means home dir
[09:09] <dean_> asc:  So much for internet connection sharing, eh?
[09:10] <hapka> i don't know anything about monitors and tv and drivers for GNU/Linux :o
[09:10] <lollerface> Thank you Ivan
[09:10] <lollerface> So how would that work to visit directories up or down from home?
[09:10] <lollerface> cd ~./desktop
[09:10] <lollerface> or something like that?
[09:10] <Asc> dean_: Rare.  You might try cycling the modem after enabling ethernet, but I can't think of a good reason for that to change anything.
[09:11] <lollerface> minus the dot, I guess i don't need tha
[09:11] <Geev8> Asc: that is what hapen even to me if any body knows tell us the soln
[09:11] <lollerface> since desktop is right above home
[09:11] <Ivanowitch> yes
[09:11] <lollerface> ah ok
[09:11] <lollerface> Thank you
[09:12] <hapka> Question: I downloaded a zip file but it does not want to open with the archive manager, I thought it had native zip support, what should I do to open it?
[09:12] <alienseer23> apparently the nvidia glx (driver) cannot be used with the nvidia settings tool
[09:12] <alienseer23> but I have the settings tool installed, but cannot find a way to change any settings
[09:12] <Asc> lollerface: Yes.  the ~ will make it start from your home directory.  Just 'cd Desktop' will also work.
[09:13] <Ivanowitch>  but you don't need the full path when you are going to a subdir, just the subdir, like cd subdir
[09:14] <Asc> dean_: I haven't tried it myself, but there is an internet connection sharing guide here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[09:14] <timalot> does dapper have xgl?, can u do that expos thing like on the mac?
[09:14] <dean_> asc:  Well if ubuntu is dummy-proofed via Gnome for the common folk (which is what Ive read, Gnome is "easier" it sort of makes sense.  Maybe I should try Kubuntu.  Of course that will probably throw me into psychosis.
[09:15] <Asc> dean_: the guide looks dense to me, but it mentions reconfiguring the ethernet card
[09:15] <dean_> asc: reading now
[09:16] <alienseer23> is there a nice gui interface for the linux nvidea???
[09:16] <lollerface> Hey, wadda ya know?
[09:16] <chris86wm> hey guys I have an ATI Radion M300 in my dell laptop. are there any drivers that i need to install?
[09:16] <lollerface> It worked. Thanks man!
[09:16] <lollerface> +1 rep point
[09:17] <lollerface> ... or bean.. or whatever floats your boat in the Ubuntu community :D
[09:17] <lollerface> heh
[09:17] <hapka> ;)
[09:17] <lollerface> Gotta log out of the session. brb friend
[09:17] <hapka> see u lollerface
[09:17] <Asc> dean_: I'm always if favor of getting rid of unecessary bloat, so I'll encourage use of light window managers.  Although there's one gnome theme I'm very attached to.
[09:17] <dean_> asc: what version of linux are you using?
[09:17] <Asc> dean_: Ubuntu 6.06.
[09:18] <hapka> Anyone know how to open zip files, the archive manager is giving this error: End-of-central-directory signature not found., but that is crap
[09:18] <chris86wm> anyone know if the ati m300 needs a driver?
[09:18] <dean_> asc: thats what i got on here.
[09:18] <hapka> chris86wm: i'm not sure, I'm using ATI Radeon and I haven't had to play with it yet
[09:18] <Corporal_Dirge> chris86wm, ati drivers should work. I have a 390M in my Compaq.
[09:18] <chris86wm> well, are they auto installed or do i have to install them?
[09:18] <Asc> dean_: Well, we're both in the right channel then.
[09:19] <hapka> Chris86wm: I guess they are already installed.
[09:19] <chris86wm> thanks for the help
[09:19] <hapka> no prob :))
[09:19] <dean_> asc: with all the manual configuring, i dont know if Ill ever permanently switch over to linux.
[09:19] <Corporal_Dirge> chris86wm, Look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for ATI, if you see vesa instead then you'l need to manually install
[09:20] <Lakai> Yep, flash works
[09:20] <Asc> chris86wm: you can enter 'glxinfo | grep rendering' in a console to check if you have 3D acceleration enabled right now.
[09:20] <Lakai> Thanks :)
[09:21] <Asc> dean_: but that's the FUN part :)
[09:21] <dean_> asc: although I would like to divorce from micro$oft. Im getting so pissed.  I put linux on here cuz win2000 crashed.  It never used to crash but I guess it was too much for this Via C3.
[09:21] <chris86wm> all seems good. ati shows up as driver in xorg.conf and direct rendering : Yes
[09:21] <chris86wm> thanks so much guys
[09:21] <ompaul> dean_, I have it working on a via c3 with a 1/4 gig ram
[09:21] <chris86wm> guess i thought is shouldnt have been harder than this :P
[09:22] <chris86wm> *it
[09:22] <Corporal_Dirge> hmm, I have direct rendering: No...
[09:22] <mc__> i also have a c3 and it never crashed with linux
[09:23] <dean_> asc?  I got it running on a Via Epia Samuel with 256 also, old 30GB slug of a hdd.
[09:23] <dean_> My windows 2000 crashed on the C3.  I dont get it.
[09:23] <Asc> dean_: Yeh.  I installed Ubuntu for fun and made it my main OS two days later.  I don't like to touch windows and more.
[09:23] <tabman> is there a shortcut key to open terminal ?
[09:23] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I enable 3D rendering?
[09:23] <Asc> *any
[09:23] <LordKahless> hey im sorry if this is a stupid question but, i currently have a ntfs partition on a sata raid 0. Will ubuntu have any problems if i try to install it onto another partition on the raid0? assuming that my raid controller is supported that is
[09:24] <dean_> I need another irc program.  I cant scroll this one.
[09:24] <Asc> tabman: there is in ion!  Otherwise, check gnome-keybinding-properties.
[09:24] <hapka> Archive question: I can't open up a zip file it gives the error "End-of-central-directory signature not found.", but it should be a normal file. Is there an archive program I can install?
[09:24] <hapka> dean_ are you using gaim?
[09:24] <mc__> !nvidia > Corporal_Dirge
[09:24] <tabman> Asc: i'm a new bie, what is ion what is gnome-keybinding-properties ?
[09:24] <dean_> hap: not yet.  just executed it now.
[09:24] <Corporal_Dirge> mc__, NOT Nvidia, ati.
[09:24] <Asc> tabman: should me in, like, system->preferences->keyboard or something
[09:25] <mc__> Corporal_Dirge, read what the bot told you
[09:25] <hapka> dean_ I am using gaim, it is different but i'm going to use it for now :)
[09:25] <mc__> !nvidia
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:25] <Corporal_Dirge> !nvidia
[09:25] <Corporal_Dirge> I have the drivers installed already.
[09:25] <Corporal_Dirge> !nvidia
[09:25] <mc__> Corporal_Dirge, then you are done
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:25] <dean_> Hap:  does it do Irc?
[09:25] <Corporal_Dirge> oops
[09:26] <Asc> tabman: you probably don't want to mess with ion if you're new.  The keyboard shortcuts are in the 'system->preferences->keyboard or something' I mentioned.
[09:26] <kodok_tempur-> haloooo I come from indonesia
[09:26] <mc__> !offtopic > kodok_tempur-
[09:26] <Asc> dean_: 'sudo apt-get install xchat'.  Could take a few minutes on 56K though.
[09:27] <LordKahless> hmm perhaps i am the only one running sata raid0? hehe
[09:27] <dean_> asc: OK
[09:27] <kodok_tempur-> !x-chat
[09:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about x-chat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:27] <Lakai> !xchat
[09:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:27] <Lakai> blarg?
[09:27] <hapka> Third time up to bat: Anyone know anyting about opening up a zip file with Ubuntu's archive manager. Should it work, it's giving me errors: "End-of-central-directory signature not found." I'm very sure it's not the zip file.
[09:27] <tabman> i'm trying for format my existing FAT32 partition as ext using cfdisk, but after I give the option 85 in cfdisk the table does not reflects the change ?
[09:27] <kodok_tempur-> !whois
[09:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about whois - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:28] <dli> tabman, use gparted to partition, and mke2fs to mkfs ext3
[09:28] <tabman> i'll have to install gparted ?
[09:28] <dli> kodok_tempur-, /msg ubotu to ask your questions
[09:29] <tabman> dli: why shouldn't cfdisk work ?
[09:29] <dli> tabman, yes, it's available on livecd
[09:29] <cmug> I installed 6.06 yesterday. For some reasons the volume for some applications (thunderbird, gaim) is extremely loud, even after I turn down the master volume. The mp3 gets quieter but not the "new mail" sound etc. What gives?
[09:29] <dli> tabman, should work, however, if you find it doesn't, use gparted
[09:30] <tabman> but I want cfisk to work
[09:30] <unikron> anyone gotten jabbin compiled for ubuntu?
[09:30] <alienseer23> hello I am having some troubble following a tutorial???
[09:31] <alienseer23> this is the file i need to run
[09:31] <alienseer23> or want to
[09:31] <SurfnKid> where can I file bugs about XGL/Compiz
[09:31] <alienseer23> and I cannot figgure out how to make it...go
[09:31] <SurfnKid> other than #xgl and #ubuntu-xgl
[09:31] <SurfnKid> :(
[09:32] <Lakai> here's another question
[09:32] <Lakai> Bit Torrent is installed, but no on my Applications drop-down menu
[09:32] <Lakai> How can I put it there, or find it?
[09:32] <Asc> Lakai: to use the version that comes with Ubuntu, double-click a torrent
[09:32] <hapka> I'm also wondering about bittorrent too, i just haven't gotten around to that yet
[09:32] <Lakai> But
[09:32] <tabman> Lakai: you're a new bie ?
[09:32] <Lakai> Azureus is also installed, and is prioritized
[09:32] <Lakai> Very much so a newbie, sir.
[09:33] <Lakai> I'm not the Lakai that I hear is oh-so-smart on the boards mind you
[09:33] <ron999> ic56 hello
[09:33] <dli> Lakai, azureus is based on java, but it's better if you have lots of ram and fast cpu
[09:33] <Lakai> And I don't want to uninstall Azureus for right now as I want to fix the pop-up problem I have with it
[09:33] <tabman> Lakai: well get used to the power of Ubuntu, I'm a newbie as well and discovered that the OS won't put your apps in application menus like people are use to for Windows, you'll have to search out where your app was installed :)
[09:33] <mc__> Lakai, missed your problem
[09:33] <indonesia> halllooo
[09:34] <Asc> Lakai: Right click on the torrent and it should be in the 'open with' submenu
[09:34] <Lakai> Bit Torrent is installed (of course, it comes with Ubuntu), but I don't know where it is! I used the search function and I couldn't find it
[09:34] <Lakai> Ok, that's good enough I guess
[09:34] <Lakai> But what if I just want to open it? Say, if there are already torrents that I just want to complete
[09:34] <Asc> lakai: to the best of my knowledge there's no way to start it without pointing it at a torrent, but I've never tried.
[09:35] <Asc> Lakai: open the torrents again, the same way.  It will detect the incomplete download and ask if you want to resume.
[09:35] <Lakai> That's kind of dumb in my opinion :P Azureus would be better because of the features, except that there are SO many bugs or problems that I can't keep up
[09:35] <Lakai> The pop-up one being the worst.
[09:35] <Lakai> Thank you Asc
[09:36] <Lakai> OH JOY
[09:36] <Lakai> lol
[09:36] <Lakai> Oh, here's a nother tricky one for you
[09:37] <Lakai> Last night I was on this here intarw3b, right?
[09:37] <Lakai> And for somer reason the internet stopped working for my browser, but still worked on IRC
[09:37] <tabman> dli: gparted is showing all my partitions as locked
[09:37] <tabman> Lakai: the power of linux :P
[09:37] <Asc> 0_o
[09:37] <Lakai> The power of Linux is frustrating me right now
[09:37] <hapka> Lakai: ask about opening up zip files, no one here seems to listen to me ;o
[09:37] <Lakai> Good thing I'm patient lol
[09:37] <tabman> Lakai: it has frustrated me always :)
[09:38] <Lakai> Hey guys, how can I open up a ZIP file using the archiver
[09:38] <Lakai> (was that right?)
[09:38] <hapka> yes :D
[09:38] <Asc> Lakai: dean_ was having a problem very much like that.  Had you activated an ethernet connection?
[09:38] <Lakai> Ummm, wha?
[09:38] <Lakai> As far as I know it's already activated. Hence, the internet working
[09:38] <Lakai> lol
[09:38] <Lakai> :P
[09:38] <Lakai> Oh, and when I shut down IRC it wouldnt connect when I tried to boot up again
[09:38] <hapka> The only time the inernet doesnt work but irc does is when the dns server is down
[09:38] <Lakai> So I called it a night
[09:39] <hapka> that's what i find
[09:39] <ardchoille> hapka: If no one knows the answer to your zip file question, what should we say?
[09:39] <Lakai> I guess the DNS server was down lol
[09:39] <Lakai> It said iit couldn't contact the Domain Name Server
[09:39] <Lakai> Makes sense
[09:39] <hapka> archoille say i don't know about zips :)
[09:39] <timalot> anyone running dapper with xgl here?
[09:39] <ardchoille> hapka: So, you want all 700 people here to say that????
[09:39] <hapka> no, just 1, then i'll know ppl are considering it ;)
[09:40] <Modem56> Thanks to whom suggested using GAIM for IRC.
[09:40] <Modem56> Now I need one of those 36 inch lcd displays!
[09:40] <hapka> Also pretty sad no one knows about opening up zip files here, very said indeed
[09:40] <hapka> *sad
[09:41] <ardchoille> hapka: I have used Linux for 5+ years and I have never even handled a zip file
[09:41] <dli> !patience
[09:41] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:41] <timalot> unzip
[09:41] <hapka> really, i <3 zip but i like .7z more
[09:41] <Paladine> double click it
[09:41] <ardchoille> hapka: tar ;)
[09:42] <hapka> NO i hate tar :)
[09:42] <Paladine> gnome archiver opens zip, rar and a whole host of other compressed formats
[09:42] <Lakai> Know what would rule?
[09:42] <Lakai> Me knowing how to use Linux :(
[09:42] <Lakai> But I'm getting there lol
[09:42] <Lakai> I just want to race ahead of myself in so many things, but it's frustrating having to pace myself
[09:42] <Lakai> lol
[09:42] <hapka> TY Paladine, i think i tried that but it's not working, i'll probably open it up in wind ows and email me the stuff lol :))
[09:42] <Modem56> asc:  udr?
[09:42] <Asc> Modem56: Ayup
[09:43] <Paladine> hapka, if gnomes archiver doesn't open it it is probably a corrupt zip file
[09:43] <hapka> Paladine: i think you are right, i thought it wasn't the zip file but i have my doubts now
[09:44] <timalot> sudo apt-get install unzip ; unzip myzipfile.zip
[09:44] <Modem56> asc:  well im using Gaim and changed to a very recognizable handle, dont you think?  Now noone has any doubt about me.
[09:44] <hapka> ty timalot :))
[09:44] <Paladine> timalot, why install unzip when he has archiver?
[09:44] <hapka> both work though?
[09:44] <Asc> Modem56: It doesn't sound at all like a name an AOL user would use either.
[09:44] <timalot> why use the archiver when u have a perfectly good command line tool :)
[09:45] <Paladine> yeah but if archiver isn't opening it uunzip won't hehe
[09:45] <Paladine> timalot, cos archiverispart of the ubuntu installation, unzip is an extra package :p
[09:45] <Modem56> asc: what do they use on aol?
[09:45] <Asc> You never know.  I have observed the archiver to be problematic on occasion.
[09:45] <Asc> Modem56: Generally names with two to three numbers after them.
[09:46] <Asc> I hope running out of disk space didn't affect my kernel compile.
[09:47] <hapka> it said i had unzip already or something, it's not working, i'm going to go try it in windows since i think it's the zip file now, i'll tell e veryone if windows could open it :)
[09:47] <alienseer23> hello
[09:48] <alienseer23> I am still here with problems
[09:48] <alienseer23> :(
[09:48] <Modem56> asc: I didnt know i was using aol.  that is not my isp.
[09:48] <Asc> Modem56: never mind.  It was subtle sarcasam.
[09:48] <alienseer23> I need to know how to make sure I have exited all X programs???
[09:48] <alienseer23> I have nothing showing as running
[09:49] <alienseer23> I am putting in nvidias own driver and when I get it to run I get an error
[09:49] <alienseer23>  ERROR: An NVIDIA kernel module 'nvidia' appears to already be loaded in your
[09:49] <alienseer23>          kernel.  This may be because it is in use (for example, by the X
[09:49] <alienseer23>          server), but may also happen if your kernel was configured without
[09:49] <alienseer23>          support for module unloading.  Please be sure you have exited X
[09:49] <alienseer23>          before attempting to upgrade your driver.  If you have exited X, know
[09:49] <alienseer23>          that your kernel supports module unloading, and still receive this
[09:49] <alienseer23>          message, then an error may have occured that has corrupted the NVIDIA
[09:49] <alienseer23>          kernel module's usage count; the simplest remedy is to reboot your
[09:49] <alienseer23>          computer.
[09:49] <dli> alienseer23, stop
[09:49] <hapka> ty everyone, it was the zip file that was corrupted, it was named .zip but was an html file for some reason :o :))
[09:49] <hapka> i'm going to have to go die of embarrasment later
[09:50] <Paladine> hehe
[09:50] <tabman> I just formatted my one partition as ext3 from fat32
[09:50] <Madpilot> hapka, Linux is less forgiving of mis-named files than Windows, I've found... :)
[09:50] <tabman> how do I mount it now ?
[09:50] <jimcooncat> I need a howto so I can install a tar.gz packaged application as a deb, so I can easily uninstall later
[09:50] <hapka> :))
[09:50] <timalot> hapka, u might use the file command ... type file <name of file> it tells u what the file is
[09:51] <ardchoille> Madpilot: That's a good thing.. or "mv virus.exe cool_app.exe" would have a bad effect :)
[09:51] <Madpilot> ardchoille, heh
[09:51] <crazy_penguin> good morning all! :)
[09:51] <neuro-> Hi there, I'm having troubles with X, pre-install :(
[09:51] <timalot> jimcooncat, is it a source package?
[09:52] <hapka> Kool timalot, thats a good trick, can it be used in with relative paths/
[09:52] <jimcooncat> timalot, yes, radrails
[09:52] <bobbyw> is there anyone here who knows why my ubuntu install doesn't activate eth0 when booting and I have do it manually on restart
[09:52] <timalot> hapka,i think so
[09:53] <Asc> nano /boot/grun/*lst
[09:53] <Asc> heh, whoops
[09:53] <timalot> jimcooncat, u can use checkinstall which replaces u use instead of the make install step after compiling... it creates a deb package that can be uninstalled
[09:54] <bobbyw> is there anyone here who knows why my ubuntu install doesn't activate eth0 when booting and I have do it manually on restart
[09:54] <bobbyw> I'll start handing out cookies
[09:54] <hapka> Kool timalot, that was  good trick lol - i kept on typeing type file test.txt lol, but you have ot just type "file test.txt"
[09:54] <jimcooncat> timalot, will the package show in synaptic after?
[09:54] <hapka> ty
[09:54] <neuro-> Using the 64bit LiveCD, when I select "Start or Install Ubuntu" it does its thing, and once it gets to loading X, X reports that it will be shutting down due to not being setup correctly.
[09:54] <neuro-> After leafing through the error log, it says "(EE) Fatal error, no screens found" - it detects my video card okay (ATi Radeon X800 XL) but doesnt detect my monitor, setting it to "Generic". My monitor is a Dell 2405FPW. Any ideas? :(
[09:55] <bobbyw> neuro
[09:55] <bobbyw> when you boot
[09:55] <bobbyw> hit safe mode
[09:55] <bobbyw> I think it's like f6
[09:55] <bobbyw> as soon as you boot to the cd, it says it at the bottom
[09:55] <bobbyw> ati cards do that
[09:55] <timalot> jimcooncat, yes ... it creates a package that it installs... that u can then later uninstall using synaptic or whatever
[09:56] <jimcooncat> thanks timalot, I found a howto on it in the forum
[09:56] <neuro-> I tried selecting "Start or install ubuntu in safe graphics mode" and it loads (Assumedly) X and my monitor goes into standby and displays *nothing*
[09:56] <bobbyw> hmm
[09:56] <Asc> bobbyw: did you recently upgrade your kernel, by any chance?
[09:56] <neuro-> so instead i should use f6?
[09:56] <neuro-> or is it one and the same
[09:57] <dli> jimcooncat, if you enjoy installing from source, try gentoo :)
[09:57] <jimcooncat> dli, I used to be a gentoo lover
[09:57] <bobbyw> bobbyw: I just installed my ubuntu a few days ago, but I did (and probably shouldn't have) read a tutorial on sysv-config-somethingorother to change what boots at startup.. and I may have disabled something in there?
[09:57] <bobbyw> when I shut down it says failure when shutting down network devices
[09:57] <dli> jimcooncat, now find checkinstall prettier?
[09:58] <Asc> that is odd
[09:58] <jimcooncat> dli, I find apt prettier, period
[09:58] <rickbauls> hey
[09:58] <Asc> You're probably referring to sysv-rc-conf, I'll try to find a reference to network interfaces in it somewhere
[09:59] <bobbyw> yes, that's it
[09:59] <bobbyw> thank yoyu
[09:59] <neuro-> any ideas guys
[09:59] <bobbyw> neuro-: boot without x, install the drivers from apt-get and then start x?
[09:59] <rickbauls> for some reason when i log in my gnone panels just flash repeatedly and nothing happens otherwise
[09:59] <neuro-> how do i boot without X?
[10:00] <neuro-> and how do I install the drivers from apt-get :(
[10:00] <tabman> in order to use a partition under /dev I'll need to mount it ?
[10:00] <tabman> neuro: what do you wanna install ?
[10:00] <Corporal_Dirge> neuro-, You can always press ctrl-F1
[10:00] <neuro-> Corporal_Dirge: what does that do
[10:01] <Asc> bobbyw: The only thing I see is an entry called networking, enabled at 0, 6, and S
[10:01] <Corporal_Dirge> Goes to the terminal. (command line) trl-F7 is X
[10:01] <Modem56> Goodnight all... And thanks for the help!
[10:01] <Asc> Y'know... can't speak for anybody else, but I use the 'alternate' install CD because it's faster and so much less can go wrong.
[10:02] <jimcooncat> Asc, agree!
[10:02] <bobbyw> Asc: that's what I've got also
[10:02] <neuro-> sigh
[10:02] <ardchoille> Asc: I agree
[10:02] <Asc> I feel so validated.
[10:03] <bobbyw> I wasn't even aware there was an "alternate" cd, minus the server one.
[10:03] <ardchoille> bobbyw: I have the same for networking in sysv-rc-conf
[10:03] <ardchoille> neuro-: ctrl+f1 takes you to tty1
[10:03] <tabman> ardchoille: I mounted my /dev/hda4 partition on /media/hda7 but I can't paste anything to hda7 ?
[10:04] <neuro-> I'm pretty much a noob at those terms ardchoille, what is tty1
[10:04] <ardchoille> tabman: Do you have permission to paste to that device?
[10:04] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, What are the folders permissions?
[10:04] <munsa> hello
[10:04] <bobbyw> okay, well then that puts us in a good place. we know for sure the problem isn't in sysv-rc-conf. that rules it down to just about ANYTHING else.
[10:04] <bobbyw> hello
[10:05] <tabman> ardchoille I did this sudo mount -w /dev/hda4 /media/hda7  assuming this would give permission
[10:05] <ardchoille> neuro-: it's a console. yuo have tty1 through tty6 which are consoles, tty7 is where gdm and X usually load
[10:05] <munsa> I was wondering if anyone could help me fix my Audio and Video on Ubundu
[10:05] <Asc> well, that's what I call progress. :p
[10:05] <neuro-> so what should I do in tty1
[10:05] <bobbyw> munsa: what's wrong with it?
[10:05] <tabman> archoille,corporal_dirge the permissions are ready for "Read" for Owner, Group, Others
[10:06] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, sudo mount -w /dev/hda4 /media/hda7 umask=000 would make everyone capable of writing to it.
[10:06] <ardchoille> tabman: you didn't need the -w, since mount will mount rw as default. Anyway, can you paste to that device as sudo?
[10:06] <munsa> I downloaded Mplayer and the codecs and the install went well I compiled from source. I have Audio with Mplayer from the command line, but the GUI for Mplayer dosent work and I cant play any videos with any player including M
[10:06] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Or you could chmod the folder now located in /media/hda7
[10:07] <bobbyw> munsa: are you tring to play like divx files?
[10:07] <jimcooncat> dh_make question, how do I know what type of package to pick?
[10:07] <aamor> Is anyone here using ubuntu of kubuntu on a Mac?
[10:07] <munsa> bobbyw :: naw, just regular .avi and Mpeg files
[10:07] <aamor> or*
[10:07] <tabman> ardchoille: i'm pasting through GUI not terminal
[10:07] <Asc> munsa: what error does it give when the video doesn't work?
[10:07] <munsa> 1 sec
[10:07] <bobbyw> munsa: sudo apt-get install automatix and use automatix to install video codecs
[10:07] <munsa> ill show you
[10:08] <ardchoille> tabman: You can run nautilus as superuser with: gksudo nautilus
[10:08] <tabman> !
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:08] <aamor> Is there anyone here using ubuntu for the Mac?
[10:08] <ardchoille> tabman: That should allow you to paste into that device.
[10:08] <neuro-> ardchoille: So what should I do in tty1?
[10:08] <tomlikestorock> is there a liero port to ubuntu?
[10:08] <rickbauls> anyone know whats wrong with gnome? the panels just flash repeatedly, and nothing works otherwise...
[10:08] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Change the group/owner or permissions of the folder /media/hda7
[10:09] <bobbyw> !women
[10:09] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[10:09] <tomlikestorock> that's has network play?
[10:09] <ardchoille> neuro-: What are you trying to accomplish?
[10:09] <munsa> mals
[10:09] <neuro-> ardchoille: Getting X to work
[10:09] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, And if you want to make it permanent or place restrictions you can edit the fstab file
[10:09] <tabman> Corpora_Dirge, I tried doing it, it says "The permission could not be changed", also tell me something that hda4 is my ext3 file system, I would need to mount it to use it right ?
[10:09] <Asc> munsa: try mplayer -vo help and tell me if 'xv' is in the list
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, unmount first
[10:10] <wassup> hey guy i need help to get a modem to run with ubuntu
[10:10] <tsume> I dont get it
[10:10] <munsa> ok
[10:10] <tsume> how come there is FreeNX when there is NoMachineNX?
[10:10] <tabman> Here is my mount:
[10:10] <tabman> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[10:10] <tabman> /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[10:10] <tabman> /dev/hda6 on /media/hda6 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[10:10] <tabman> /dev/hda4 on /media/hda7 type ext3 (rw)
[10:10] <munsa> i just tried to play a video and I got a screach and that was it lol
[10:10] <tsume> tabman: use pastebin, kthnx
[10:10] <munsa> where can I paste the error?
[10:11] <Asc> hmm
[10:11] <munsa> ahh yea pastebin
[10:11] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Also, even as root you can't change permissions if fstab restricts it, you'd have to allow it in fstab then change the permissions..... wait, is that partition NTFS?
[10:11] <munsa> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:11] <Asc> what chat program are you using?
[10:11] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, It's NTFS isn't it?
[10:11] <munsa> Xchat
[10:11] <wassup> can nayone help me get my modem to run with ubuntu?
[10:11] <tabman> corporal_dirge: /dev/hda4 on /media/hda7 type ext3 (rw)
[10:11] <SurfnKid> time for zleep nite!
[10:12] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, ok chang that umask to 000.
[10:12] <ardchoille> neuro-: I don't know, I don't have any use for nvidia or ati drivrs
[10:12] <tabman> corporal_dirge why not 007 ?
[10:12] <wassup> anyone at all?
[10:13] <timalot> no one running xgl?
[10:13] <dli> tabman, is your modem supported :(
[10:13] <steal> where can i find xdm log???
[10:13] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, umask works the opposite as chmod. chmod 777 adds WRX to all, umask=000 allows WRX to all
[10:13] <dli> tabman, I had to order an external modem :(
[10:13] <wassup> who me?
[10:13] <neuro-> ok i'm going to try somethings bbiab
[10:13] <munsa> Ok here is the pastebin
[10:13] <munsa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18990
[10:13] <dli> wassup, sorry, yes, modem
[10:13] <tabman> dli: I haven't used a modem. i'm on ethernet
[10:14] <wassup> well i have two modem cards in right now and i dont know if they are supported
[10:14] <dli> tabman, sorry, wrong nick
[10:14] <munsa> tabman I had to buy an external modem as well
[10:14] <munsa> i can tell you Xandros is fantastic at finding win modems
[10:14] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Since you're not owner or group of the hda7, you're the 3rd, you have no ability to alter the partition
[10:14] <munsa> Ahhhh yes,
[10:14] <Asc> munsa: this is an error with which I am familiar.
[10:14] <rickbauls> anyone else having problems with their panels in gnome?
[10:14] <munsa> Asc for real?
[10:14] <munsa> how can I fix it?
[10:14] <Asc> munsa: use 'mplayer -vo help' and tell me if 'xv' is in the list
[10:14] <move> sudo chown youruser:youruser
[10:15] <unikron> what is scrnsaver.h?
[10:15] <Asc> munsa: yeah, it owned me for a couple hours the first time I tried to compile mplayer
[10:15] <wassup> anyone know where i can check to see if my modems have linux drivers?
[10:15] <move> unikron: a file.
[10:15] <dli> wassup, what's in lspci
[10:15] <move> wassup: their respective websites?
[10:16] <wassup> move: too right
[10:16] <munsa> Asc in Avaible video output drivers? I dont see "XV"
[10:16] <wassup> dli: what is lspci?
[10:16] <tabman> corpora_dirge, my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18991
[10:17] <Asc> munsa: okay, that's probably the problem.
[10:17] <dli> wassup, type: lspci|grep -i modem
[10:17] <munsa> How do I get it?>
[10:17] <wassup> and just in case where can i pick up an external modem from online and for how much?
[10:17] <Asc> munsa: you'll have to recompile
[10:18] <wassup> dli: i cant right now, im not at my ubuntu comp
[10:18] <Asc> munsa: use './configure --enable-menu --enable-xv' and whatever else you want, then 'make', 'make install' like normal
[10:18] <unikron> move yeah, that's informative dude.
[10:18] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, That Group ID is the plgdev right?
[10:19] <Asc> munsa: when ./configure finishes, make sure it says xv is enabled.  There might be dev libraries you have to download or somesuch
[10:19] <ardchoille> Asc: Doesn't the mplayer in the repos have xv enabled?
[10:19] <Eml-> it dies
[10:19] <Eml-> does
[10:19] <tabman> corpora;_dirge: what group id ?
[10:19] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, ok, make sure it's unmounted and 'sudo chmod 777 /media/hda7'
[10:20] <ardchoille> munsa: Are you aware that mplayer is in the repos?
[10:20] <Asc> ardchoille: Pretty sure.  Munsa said he compiled it though.
[10:20] <tabman> corpora_dirge I've done the following:
[10:20] <tabman> /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     ext3    defaults,utf8,umask=000,gid=46  0       1
[10:20] <tabman> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0       1
[10:20] <tabman> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0       1
[10:20] <tabman> /dev/hda6       /media/hda6     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0       1
[10:20] <tabman> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:20] <tabman> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:20] <Eml-> OMG
[10:20] <ardchoille> tabman: Please don't paste multiple lines in channel
[10:20] <Eml-> tabman you meanie
[10:20] <tabman> ardchoille: sorry
[10:20] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Use pastebin, plus that paste doesn't even have hda7....
[10:21] <munsa> Yea, I know it is there but I wanted to practice compiling
[10:21] <Asc> Don't use mplayer from the repos.  Install it, then compile and install mplayer over it.  You not only get the gui, but things work better (especially if you want to --enable something)
[10:21] <munsa> ya know gotta learn it sometime hehe
[10:21] <Eml-> munsa whats there to practice :-D
[10:21] <tabman> corpora;_dirge it has
[10:21] <move> tabman: in that case, sudo chmod 777 /media/hda4
[10:21] <Eml-> its ./configure and make and make install
[10:21] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Plus we only need to know about the hda7 line
[10:21] <move> cause it's now hda4 and not 7
[10:21] <Eml-> and you always get errors
[10:21] <ardchoille> munsa: Fair enough :)
[10:21] <Asc> Eml-: troubleshooting why a compile doesn't work :)
[10:21] <Eml-> becose you lack librarys
[10:21] <tabman> corpora_dirge: I changed the fstab, the last paste is what i changed to
[10:22] <Eml-> compiles never work
[10:22] <Eml-> you always lack something
[10:22] <Asc> Eml-: then if a compile does work but the program doesn't
[10:22] <aaqzx> hi all :)
[10:22] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Is hda7 mounted?
[10:22] <munsa> Ok, tell me again how I get it from the repos? hehehe
[10:22] <Asc> Eml-: speak for yourself, my mplayer does everything I could ever want it to :)
[10:22] <Asc> munsa: probably sudo apt-get install mplayer.  Or use synaptoc.
[10:22] <move> Corporal_Dirge: i'm rather sure he doesn't have a hda7 and he was mounting hda4 to /media/hda7 for some reason?
[10:22] <Eml-> i was compiling stepmania other night
[10:22] <dazvid> Im trying to install a HP printer that is connected through a Dlink router, pointers in the right direction needed
[10:22] <Asc> *senaptic
[10:22] <munsa> sorry this is a fresh install of Ubuntu after 5 days of death and destruction trying to get Dapper installed I finally got it right !!! and im very happy
[10:22] <munsa> hehe
[10:22] <Eml-> took me hour to figure wich librarys i needed
[10:23] <munsa> I love it really Finally left Windoze for Good
[10:23] <Eml-> then after i was finished
[10:23] <Corporal_Dirge> move, Ah i see now
[10:23] <Eml-> it said "ME NOT WORK"
[10:23] <Asc> good on you, munsa
[10:23] <tabman> corporal_dirge: initially it was this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18991 now I've changed it to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18992  should it work ?
[10:23] <ardchoille> tabman: How did you change /dev/hda4 from vfat to ext3 so quickly?
[10:23] <move> hda4 wasn't vfat?
[10:23] <munsa> Asc : do you know of any good games? My wife loves to play games, like kiddy type, ya know
[10:24] <move> munsa: gnome-same
[10:24] <move> gets em everytime.
[10:24] <aaqzx> :)
[10:24] <tabman> ardchoille: that last line of it being vfat, I made a change in fstab when fixing some problem, few days back, but today I partitioned hda4 which was mounted on hda7 to ext3
[10:24] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, ok, 'sudo chmod 777 /media/hda4' should do it.
[10:24] <aaqzx>  ;(
[10:25] <move> and then type "mount -a" to remount the umount'd hda4
[10:25] <ardchoille> Corporal_Dirge: Cool, if he does that, then *I* can write to it too? lol
[10:25] <Asc> munsa: well, there's tux racer.  And http://transcend.sourceforge.net/ looks neat thouch I haven't had a chance to try it
[10:25] <Corporal_Dirge> ardchoille, It's always been ext
[10:25] <tabman> corporal_dirge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18992
[10:25] <tabman> corpora_dirge, ignore the last line
[10:25] <tabman> corporal-dirge: chmod: cannot access `/media/hda4': No such file or directory
[10:25] <wassup> anyone know where i could buy a linux supported modem online and for how much?
[10:26] <move> tabman: sudo mkdir /media/hda4
[10:26] <Corporal_Dirge> ardchoille, Yup, he can always change the owner or group later once he figures out fstab and the rest, I'm just helping him get to where he cab write to it.
[10:26] <move> thennnn
[10:26] <move> mount it
[10:26] <munsa> Asc so I can install Mplayer from Synaptic on top of the one I compiled? Without  poblems
[10:26] <munsa> ??
[10:26] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Yeah, use the mkdir
[10:27] <wassup> ??
[10:27] <Asc> munsa: it should install over the existing installation
[10:27] <move> !grep
[10:27] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:27] <munsa> ok cool
[10:27] <munsa> Asc  - oh/ I wanted to ask about something much less fun
[10:27] <munsa> heh
[10:27] <Asc> munsa: The package manager works good that way.
[10:27] <munsa> Chmod and stuff like that
[10:28] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, 'sudo mkdir /media/hda4' 'sudo chmod 777 /media/hda4' then mount
[10:28] <munsa> I have 2 external drives on this laptop and I cant write to them
[10:28] <munsa> which really sucks
[10:28] <ardchoille> munsa: There's something less fun than compiling?!
[10:28] <ruxpin> how can I configure /etc/network/interfaces so that I use dhcpcd instead of dhclient? and why isn't dhclient.conf read by ifup
[10:28] <Corporal_Dirge> munsa, NTFS?
[10:28] <munsa> lol
[10:28] <Asc> munsa: Ooh, that can be fun.
[10:28] <munsa> Yea NTFS
[10:28] <munsa> Im screwed huh?
[10:28] <move> yep
[10:28] <move> hard and fast
[10:28] <dli> tabman, ntfs, and permission problem?
[10:28] <ardchoille> yes
[10:28] <munsa> ahhh shit
[10:28] <munsa> figures
[10:28] <Asc> ardchoille, I think compiling is fun... :)
[10:28] <munsa> cant I change it?
[10:29] <munsa> Asc I like it too
[10:29] <move> what I did was changed my storage partition to ext3 and then used ext2fs in windows so I could read it
[10:29] <Corporal_Dirge> munsa, No, linux  doesn't write well to NTFS.
[10:29] <munsa> it makes me fell 133t
[10:29] <DarkMageZ> can someone recommend a web browser to me. something that is like firefox but not gecko based and not opera
[10:29] <munsa> lol
[10:29] <unikron> i can't get my mvox mv100 speakerphone to work in linux.  anyone know of a good usb speakerphone for linux?
[10:29] <move> DarkMageZ: lynx
[10:29] <rickbauls> well, I looked in the forums and it seems a lot of people are having problems with their gnome panels crashing...
[10:29] <munsa> alright, next questions.. VMware and XoverOffice
[10:30] <munsa> worth it?
[10:30] <munsa> or no
[10:30] <munsa> ?
[10:30] <Asc> munsa: I've not tried to write to NTFS.  That is the realm of things that require animal sacrifices in return for functionality.
[10:30] <stefg> DarkMageZ: Konqueror or Dillo will be the only alternatives then
[10:30] <Jell-O-Fishi> DarkMageZ : konqueror ?
[10:30] <rickbauls> so if anyone wants to look into it, then cool but i'll just use kde for now,
[10:30] <Corporal_Dirge> Asc, only animals?
[10:30] <move> guys, don't blow off lynx
[10:30] <move> it's very firefox like
[10:30] <munsa> ok what about changing premissions within linux
[10:30] <tabman> corporal_dirge: mount: /dev/hda4 already mounted or /media/hda4 busy
[10:30] <Asc> munsa: haven't tried them.  OpenOffice (And GnomeOffice) have done everything I need as far as MS office compatibility goes.
[10:30] <Corporal_Dirge> munsa, Not recommended unless the data is expendable.
[10:31] <move> tabman: you were supposed to have umounted hda4 already
[10:31] <KeithWeisshar> is the ubuntu dvd version worth the download
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[10:31] <Asc> Corp: I usually don't do humans.  Bad for business.
[10:31] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, umount -a
[10:31] <KeithWeisshar> the live cd overwrites the mbr without asking
[10:31] <move> tabman: do alllll this:
[10:31] <Asc> munsa: One thing that you really, really need to know about chmod/chown is NOT TO SCREW WITH ANYTHING IMPORTANT.
[10:31] <tabman> corporal_dirge I looked into the man pages as well, couldn't find the -a argument, what it does ?
[10:31] <munsa> Open Office is much better than XP anyhow, just some programs like... DreamWEaver and Paintshop that I have a hard time breaking away from
[10:31] <munsa> lol
[10:32] <DarkMageZ> munsa, is that gecko based?
[10:32] <dli> tabman, you have to close all files open there, (therefore, cd away from it in all folders underneath)
[10:32] <munsa> Asc, yea but where is the fun in that
[10:32] <munsa> DarkMagez  I have no idea
[10:32] <ardchoille> KeithWeisshar: The dvd has installs for different archs, it doesn't have any more packages than the cd's.
[10:32] <Jell-O-Fishi> DarkMageZ : mozille is gecko based
[10:32] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, mmounts or unmounts everything in the fstab file
[10:32] <move> tabman: save the /etc/fstab and close it. umount -a. then mount -a
[10:32] <Asc> munsa; you you enjoy reinstalling?
[10:32] <munsa> LOL
[10:32] <Dravas> Wine is awesome
[10:32] <munsa> no!!!!!
[10:32] <munsa> God
[10:32] <munsa> that took me forever
[10:32] <tabman> corporal_dirge it says device is busy ?
[10:32] <move> Dravas: wine is tasty, but beer is better.
[10:32] <munsa> to FINALLY get this friggin thing installed
[10:32] <aaqzx> hi all :)
[10:32] <Dravas> lmfao
[10:33] <munsa> but Im very happy with it
[10:33] <Asc> munsa: I destroyed my first Ubuntu install by changing permissions where I shouldn't have.
[10:33] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, I think pmount would force it. lol
[10:33] <move> tabman: close all windows/programs/whatever using files from that partition
[10:33] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Make sure fstab is saved.
[10:33] <munsa> Asc I did too
[10:33] <munsa> I have played with tons of linux distros
[10:33] <munsa> used them for a week then back to Win
[10:33] <Asc> munsa: Since then, when I've needed to edit something I don't have access to, I've used 'sudo [nano/gedit/file-walker/whatever] 
[10:33] <danya> hi all
[10:34] <danya> I am trying to compile kqemu
[10:34] <Dravas> Whats a good FTP Server client for Linux
[10:34] <Asc> I've only useb Ubuntu very much at all
[10:34] <munsa> Asc I hate the RedHat and them I dont like the way they move, anything based on Debian is good
[10:34] <move> gftp
[10:34] <Eml-> when im using linux at desktop computer i just miss windows :<
[10:34] <danya> I have an error msg I don't understand, can any1 help ?
[10:34] <tabman> move: everything is closed
[10:34] <Jell-O-Fishi> Dravas : kftpgrabber or gftp. lftp if you don't mind the command line
[10:34] <Jell-O-Fishi> kftpgrabber > gftp
[10:34] <unikron> Eml- wow. that's crazy.
[10:34] <Jell-O-Fishi> :)
[10:34] <munsa> Asc what does that do?
[10:34] <move> tabman: try it again... if it doesn't work.. force it
[10:34] <ardchoille> munsa: When you try a distro, try it with the thought of "windows doesn't exist, so I have nothing to go back to", that will give you an incentive to learn how to fix problems in Linux.
[10:34] <unikron> Eml- just take time to get used to it then, because i find that i _hate_ using a windows computer.
[10:34] <Eml-> unikron i take once the time
[10:35] <Asc> munsa:  Fedora Core is sure shiny.  I would have tried it again except I didn't have enough CD-Rs to record it to.
[10:35] <Eml-> used linux for years
[10:35] <Eml-> year
[10:35] <Eml-> it was horrible
[10:35] <Asc> munsa: it lets you edit files as root.
[10:35] <tabman> corporal_dirge: I opened fstab & saved it again, it still says device is busy on sudo umount -a
[10:35] <Eml-> i wanted to install windows all the time
[10:35] <munsa> oh for real
[10:35] <munsa> nice
[10:35] <Eml-> becose games didnt work
[10:35] <munsa> I like FC It looks really nice, but I feel like its a tank
[10:35] <mcphail> Eml-: using winXP is like a trip back in a time machine
[10:35] <munsa> Like Suse
[10:35] <KeithWeisshar> i have a gateway with a recovery partition and it uses a special mbr to detect the f11 key to boot into the recovery partition
[10:35] <Asc> munsa: so you don't have to chown/mod them.  Convienent, but the cautious will make a backup copy.
[10:35] <Eml-> mcphail atleast the games work
[10:35] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, Make sure it's still not mounted as hda7
[10:35] <KeithWeisshar> grub will overwrite it
[10:35] <ardchoille> This is an *ubuntu* support channel folks.
[10:35] <mcphail> Eml-: buy an xbox
[10:35] <Asc> munsa: I just like the startup graphics. :)
[10:35] <munsa> But Ubuntu is awsome ya know i really really really really like it alot
[10:36] <Dravas> My Windows History Windows XP --> Windows Vista --> Windows XP --> Windows Vista --> Ubuntu
[10:36] <Dravas> lol
[10:36] <Dravas> Erm
[10:36] <munsa> ewww MS products :(
[10:36] <tabman> coporal_dirge how can I check that ?
[10:36] <Dravas> My OS history
[10:36] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, umount /media/hda7
[10:36] <munsa> lol
[10:36] <Eml-> i have xbox
[10:36] <Eml-> someone gave it to me for present
[10:36] <Eml-> i have never used it :D
[10:36] <munsa> yaaaaa I have Mplayer
[10:36] <ardchoille> Can we take the ot chat to ##ubuntu-offtopic please?
[10:36] <mcphail> ;)
[10:36] <munsa> lets see if I can play a vid
[10:36] <KeithWeisshar> grub will overwrite the original gateway mbr and the only way to get it back is order recovery dvd from gateway
[10:36] <Eml-> sickvideo.vmw
[10:36] <move> Eml-: I did the smart thing. I installed ubuntu, then windows detected an ext2 partition on the hard drive and wouldn't boot.
[10:36] <tabman> corporal_dirge I typed mount: /dev/hda4 on /media/hda4 type ext3 (rw)
[10:36] <mcphail> ardchoille: apologies
[10:37] <tabman> corporal_dirge, its already mounted I guess
[10:37] <move> Eml-: the best way to learn linux is to screw yourself into doing it
[10:37] <Eml-> dude linux as desktop computer isnt so good idea
[10:37] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, ok, check /media/hda4 then.
[10:37] <move> tabman: try pasting again
[10:37] <move> isn't so good idea?
[10:37] <Eml-> most games are out of the question
[10:37] <ardchoille> Eml-: Then you don't really belong in this channel
[10:37] <danya> can somebody help with that ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18993
[10:37] <munsa> Asc: I keep getting this wierd thing with my desktop... the whole thing flickers sometimes
[10:37] <munsa> wierd
[10:37] <tabman> corporal_dirge I tried umount /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 it says device busy
[10:37] <Asc> munsa: I tend to get rid of user interfaces whenever possible, but I strongly like the mplayer GUI.  I almost always run it from the command line.
[10:38] <danya> I am having this error trying to configure kqemu
[10:38] <move> tabman: try pasting again
[10:38] <Eml-> you can do all the basic stuff
[10:38] <munsa> I like it from command as well
[10:38] <munsa> Mplayer
[10:38] <tabman> move: OK
[10:38] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, You don't need to type 2 in th umount, just one
[10:38] <Asc> munsa: are you on a fast computer?
[10:38] <munsa> yea
[10:38] <munsa> ahh
[10:38] <munsa> Asc When I am in a terminal, and hit backspace it shutters
[10:39] <gizmatix> tell me
[10:39] <munsa> hit backspace to far I mean
[10:39] <dli> tabman, it's ntfs, safe to: umount -f /dev/hda4
[10:39] <Eml-> im just waiting for good NTFS write support
[10:39] <Eml-> fod AMD64
[10:39] <Asc> munsa: one of the reasons that I like running it from the command line is that there are options to let very slow computers play very high quality video
[10:39] <move> Eml-: what do you mean by basic stuff? I'm finding the more I learn about linux the more I can do in it than in windows
[10:39] <tabman> corpora_dirge, move all of my other windows partition are not visible to me right now, I guess they were unmounted
[10:39] <Asc> munsa: just a second, I think there might be a reason for that.
[10:39] <munsa> Asc - I have video~! hahaha
[10:39] <munsa> yea its wierd
[10:40] <danya> brr... I found this on qemu forum... how do I install the kernel source ?
[10:40] <munsa> I think maybe I enabled something while I was playing with my Terminal settings hehe
[10:40] <wassup> anyone know wher ei can pickup a linux supported modem online?
[10:40] <Eml-> i wonder if i can change my architechture?
[10:40] <Eml-> from AMD64 to i686
[10:40] <move> munsa: you can make the terminal window flash instead of a system beep
[10:40] <Eml-> i hate AMD support
[10:40] <tabman> corporal_dirge, move: I need to mount my other partitions back, thats from where I was copying data
[10:40] <munsa> maybe thats what it is
[10:40] <Eml-> then is sure you dont play any games
[10:40] <munsa> "That beep is horrid
[10:40] <munsa> GOOONK!
[10:41] <Corporal_Dirge> danya, Looks like there's an error in the code, it's not making it past a syntax check.
[10:41] <move> tabman: type mount -a in console
[10:41] <Corporal_Dirge> tabman, mount -a
[10:41] <dazvid> Im trying to install a HP printer that is connected through a Dlink router, pointers in the right direction needed
[10:41] <danya> Corporal_Dirge, this is wiered ...
[10:41] <move> it will mount all your partitions to their respective folders
[10:41] <munsa> Asc yea its gone now
[10:41] <Asc> munsa: That will probably disable the flicker, but I suspect that you enabled an option in preferences to enable a visual cue when the ding is set off.  Might want to check for that.
[10:41] <Eml-> is it hard to make 64-bit system to 32-bit?
[10:41] <munsa> yea I got rid of it
[10:41] <Daveyboy> Corporal_Dirge heya
[10:41] <munsa> yea
[10:41] <munsa> I have video@!!
[10:41] <munsa> how cool
[10:41] <stefg> !cups > dazvid
[10:41] <Corporal_Dirge> danya, ./configure: line 344: test: =: unary operator expected
[10:41] <munsa> ok what else do I need now?
[10:41] <move> Asc: beat you to it
[10:41] <danya> Corporal_Dirge, I found a guy with the problem as mine, it says there I need to install kernel source
[10:42] <Corporal_Dirge> Daveyboy, Hi
[10:42] <Asc> move: I will engfeh your arglebargles
[10:42] <Eml-> is it possible to make 64-bit system to 32-bit?
[10:42] <gor> hola emilio
[10:42] <move> Asc: shh, there be kids in the room.
[10:42] <move> Asc: you'll give them nightmares.
[10:42] <move> Eml-: yeah. reinstall.
[10:43] <munsa> Asc Do you like KDE or Gnome ?
[10:43] <Asc> eml-  were you the one using that non-amd64 64-bit system?
[10:43] <danya> Corporal_Dirge, I also installed it on another laptop yesterday... I didn't have this problem
[10:43] <Eml-> Asc dunno :D
[10:43] <mcphail> danya: the page at "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu" is a bit out of date, but has the general idea
[10:43] <Eml-> im usin AMD64 :D
[10:43] <Eml-> and it sux as hard as anyone can
[10:43] <Asc> munsa: I prefer gnome over KDE and ion3 over gnome
[10:43] <Corporal_Dirge> danya, Ok, the unary operator is probably code to a call then.
[10:43] <gor> hola emilio
[10:43] <move> ion3!
[10:43] <munsa> ion3?
[10:43] <move> getting fancy
[10:44] <Asc> ion3 **
[10:44] <munsa> Never heard of it
[10:44] <Asc> er, ^^
[10:44] <Asc> I love it
[10:44] <mcphail> danya: i don't think you should have to do the stuff withh gcc3.4 any more
[10:44] <munsa> Gnome rocks, I used to like KDE because it was like Windows but I really Gnome now
[10:44] <Corporal_Dirge> danya, I'm more f a Java person though.
[10:44] <munsa> Asc: can you install it in Ubuntu?
[10:44] <move> ion3 looks like fluxbox..
[10:44] <danya> god.. every time I have to install kqemu I get pissed off... :(
[10:45] <tabman> Corpora_Dirge: have you worked on j2me on linux ?
[10:45] <Asc> munsa: it's a seriously minimal window manager.  You have to know your way around gnome before you can get your foot in the door, really.
[10:45] <munsa> ahhh ok
[10:45] <Asc> munsa: sudo apt-get install ion3
[10:45] <munsa> like windowmaker and those things
[10:45] <gor> hola emilio
[10:45] <Asc> move: I've got a screenshot to send you
[10:45] <munsa> oh cool
[10:45] <ardchoille> I like openbox. I liked it so much that I use openbox in gnome now :)
[10:45] <munsa> screenshot of what?
[10:45] <dazvid> Ok let me rephrase my question. Im trying to setup a HP printer through CUPS that is connected by a Dlink router-> need a URL for the printer
[10:45] <Asc> ion3
[10:45] <munsa> FluxBox
[10:45] <munsa> thats the other one
[10:45] <munsa> my friend uses that
[10:46] <mcphail> danya: i don't think the results from kqemu are worth the effort
[10:46] <munsa> loves it I tried it
[10:46] <move> Asc: bobbyw@gmail.com I dunno how to quite configure bitchx yet
[10:46] <munsa> was lost completely
[10:46] <Asc> I've not tried it.
[10:46] <dazvid> Where can I find the URL / IP
[10:46] <emilio> hh
[10:46] <hume> p/join #ubuntu-se
[10:46] <emilio> ,,,,mjjkjjjjjj
[10:46] <danya> mcpail ? so you suggest working with qemu alone ? is darne slow...
[10:46] <munsa> You know Dapper didnt come with Xchat
[10:46] <munsa> wierd
[10:46] <emilio> miguel buenos das que tal estas
[10:46] <munsa> wonder why??
[10:47] <move> Asc: unless you know if bitchx doesn't need any configuring to DCC recieve
[10:47] <ardchoille> !es
[10:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:47] <Asc> move: never used it
[10:47] <danya> mcphail, do you know of a replacement pkg for kqemu ?
[10:47] <mcphail> danya: if you are going to use a closed source product, use vmware
[10:47] <danya> mmm.... never done that before...
[10:47] <gor> estoy muy bien
[10:47] <move> Asc: it's the only irc client I've ever used in linux, it was all the rage 8 years ago
[10:48] <Asc> move: I usually just usr irc from the console
[10:48] <danya> mcphail, I rather use a free emulater...
[10:48] <Seveas> !es
[10:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:48] <mcphail> danya: kqemu is not free
[10:48] <move> Asc: it is console based
[10:48] <hume> hi...to start X from the terminal, without gdm or kdm, I believe I need a file called .xinitrc that specifies what to start. what needs to be in this file?
[10:48] <Asc> move: but I use the console whenever possible because it's awesome with io
[10:48] <Asc> *ion
[10:48] <move> it's like... iirsc or whatever that one is called
[10:48] <Asc> move: good man
[10:48] <xav_> hello, nobody as an idea to avoid tiping so many times the password?
[10:48] <move> iirci
[10:48] <move> something like that, the popular console based irc client
[10:49] <mcphail> irssi
[10:49] <move> yeah
[10:49] <move> that's it
[10:49] <dazvid> Im to setup a HP printer through CUPS that is connected by a Dlink router-> need a URL/IP for the printer, where can I find this info?
[10:49] <move> gnome-cups-add?
[10:49] <ardchoille> hume: Here's a good example, see bottom of page: http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php#6
[10:49] <dazvid> xav_, could you please rephrase your question. It doesn't make much sense as it stands
[10:50] <dazvid> move, yes I need an IP to add it though
[10:50] <dazvid> thats where my problem lies
[10:50] <move> oh
[10:50] <emilio> emile quien heres me gustara conocewrte
[10:50] <danya> mcphail, I should use vmware player ?
[10:50] <ardchoille> !es > emilio
[10:50] <move> my guess is check the router config page at 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[10:50] <emilio> emile quien eres me gustaria conocerte
[10:51] <dazvid> !es > emilio
[10:51] <move> crapo, it's almost 5
[10:51] <hume> arcade, thx
[10:51] <dazvid> ok thanks move, I'll give it a bash
[10:51] <Asc> move: screenshots OTW.  They don't really convey what's best about it though.
[10:52] <unikron> for anyone who wants to use voip with your jabber account, check out jabbin.  it rocks
[10:52] <unikron> i just compiled it.
[10:52] <unikron> compatible with google talk, or any other jabber server.
[10:53] <move> Asc: i see. very minimalistic
[10:53] <Asc> move: What's great about ion3 is that you learn to run everything without using menus (read: fast)... and you can switch between workspaces very quickly and there aren't overlapped windows
[10:53] <Asc> Which means that you can essentially switch to any window in the time it takes to press alt-[number] 
[10:53] <Daveyboy> what command do i run to see which deamons are listening
[10:53] <Jell-O-Fishi> would be nice if it were integrated into gaim :)
[10:54] <move> Asc: it sounds nice, but I have a tendency to do 50-60 things at a time, and I need layers upon layers of desktop space
[10:54] <Asc> move: *peer* what kind of things?
[10:54] <ardchoille> Asc: What is the homepage of ion3? I would google it but google doesn't seem to be working.
[10:55] <Asc> ard: http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[10:55] <ardchoille> Asc: Thank you :)
[10:55] <tabman> how do you delete a directory ?
[10:55] <munsa> Asc Can all these "K" apps work with Gnome... example... Kmail or Kbounce ect??
[10:55] <move> I just get caught up in things and I'll start downloading ten things, reading eight web pages, browse ten folders, listen to mp3s with a paused movie, edit a photo, and have a pr0n running in the corner
[10:55] <Asc> I'll do anything to recruit people :)
[10:55] <yukselD> hi when entering kernel 2.6.17 in ubuntu dapper source list?
[10:55] <Asc> munsa: yes, but you'll probably have to install KDE
[10:55] <munsa> baaa
[10:55] <daninja> i think most people do that move
[10:55] <move> I don't know how I get sucked into it, but it seems like I'm almost always using enough desk space for ten monitors... and I do it rather well... after ten years
[10:56] <dli> yukselD, you can build your own from kernel.org
[10:56] <Asc> munsa: you don't have to run it.  It just takes disk space.
[10:56] <ardchoille> tabman: If the dir is empty, rmdir. If it has files in it, rm -r
[10:56] <move> Asc: running irc in console isn't speed for me, it's downtime. I don't start messing with things and multitasking like crazy
[10:56] <munsa> ok
[10:56] <yukselD> thanks I know
[10:56] <move> but anyway, goodnight
[10:56] <munsa> ok well I have tons of space. I have like.... 300 GB free :D
[10:57] <munsa> how big of a download is it?
[10:57] <dazvid> move, its all good now, thanks for your suggestion
[10:57] <Asc> munda: I think it's like 500 MB installed.  You can check in Synaptic.  Go to preferences -> collums and enable download size
[10:57] <Asc> *munsa :p
[10:58] <munsa> ahhh no way
[10:58] <munsa> to big
[10:58] <munsa> will take me a week on this slow connection
[10:58] <Asc> nah
[10:58] <xav_> Ok, when I open adept, synaptic, the settings menu, I always have to enter my password, sometimes 20 times by hour, what can I do
[10:58] <move> dazvid: was it you whom I suggested lynx as a browser to?
[10:58] <Asc> 700 MB is 36 hours of 56K
[10:59] <dazvid> nope
[10:59] <mcphail> elinks dumps on lynx
[10:59] <Asc> but yeah, in principle downloading with a slow connection just sucks
[10:59] <dazvid> the printer problem
[10:59] <move> dazvid: k, I suggested that to someone and they didn't get the joke
[10:59] <move> oh, yeah, okay
[10:59] <munsa> Hey do you guys know if there is a DreamWeaver type program for Linux?
[10:59] <move> you're welcome
[10:59] <move> hope you figure that out
[10:59] <dazvid> turns out my printer has a button that prints out its network details :)
[10:59] <move> hah
[10:59] <move> even better
[10:59] <bobslaede> munsa: like a wysiwyg html editor?
[10:59] <Ivanowitch> xav_ you might try to mess with the settings for sudo, but i don't know how... it is a matter of password timeout in sudo
[10:59] <Daveyboy> mortal it was
[10:59] <dazvid> yeh, quite handy if you know its there
[11:00] <tabman> move: I've installed a folder in the hda4 drive, but the folder is marked with lock
[11:00] <move> I was going to go there, but I've never actually used one of those printers when it was hooked up via rd-45
[11:00] <munsa> bobsleade yes.
[11:00] <bobslaede> munsa: try searching thru your reposotory
[11:00] <munsa> yea im digin threw it now
[11:00] <jimcooncat> anyone using radrails?
[11:00] <munsa> lost of cool junk!
[11:00] <move> tabman: that's the chastity icon. you can't use it til you marry it, or at least date it for a month. that folder ain't gettin down on the first night
[11:00] <xav_> Ivanowitch: I do it but that is only for the console
[11:00] <bobslaede> yeah :p
[11:01] <move> tabman: hehe, I'm going to bed. these guys will help you. night!
[11:01] <tabman> move: please just tell me the command
[11:01] <Ivanowitch> ok, then i can't help you... not an expert :S
[11:01] <Snake007uk> hey guys what package do i need to see windows share on my ubuntu box ?
[11:01] <Daveyboy> anyone know a good monitir gui for desktop?
[11:01] <Jell-O-Fishi> Snake007uk : samba
[11:01] <Snake007uk> for gnome ?
[11:02] <Daveyboy> kde
[11:02] <move> tabman: actually I'd like to tell you but I don't know the answer for that one. I'm new to ubuntu myself. I just went through the partitioning thing recently myself. check the permissions of the folder in it's properties
[11:02] <Ivanowitch> xav_ ... the gui sudo thing is called gksudo, it might have its own config file...
[11:02] <du_> hi all i just installed ubuntu dapper on a laptop but the fan doesen't work and the lap is much hot!
[11:02] <tabman> move: it won't let me change the permissions
[11:02] <move> tabman: do it from super user
[11:03] <Asc> tabman: what are you trying to do?
[11:03] <move> sudo chmod 777!
[11:03] <du_> acpi doesen't work?
[11:03] <ardchoille> tabman: You can run nautilus as superuser with: sudo nautilus  .. but I feel you really need to learn how to do some things via command line, it's much faster.
[11:03] <dli> tabman, mount -ouid=tabman /dev/hda4 /mnt/ntfs
[11:03] <ardchoille> tabman: I meant gksudo nautilus
[11:04] <tabman> no I don't want to get into superuser kind of thing here
[11:04] <move> any of these ten fixes will work, I still recommend sudo chmod 777 /the/folder/name
[11:04] <tabman> i'm installing the java wireless toolkit and the folder is marked with lock
[11:04] <move> that means you don't own that shit!
[11:05] <move> buy your own folders.
[11:05] <ardchoille> move: pm?
[11:05] <administrator> !lamp
[11:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:05] <move> ardchoille: sure?
[11:05] <tabman> move: i did sudo chmod 777 /media/hda4/wtk2.2 but it doesn't changes the rights
[11:06] <Elko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18994  any ideas where I can look to fix?
[11:06] <kuckuck> hi there
[11:06] <move> lolsend, thx
[11:06] <du_> i get an error upgrading dapper beta to ubuntu 6.06.."dpkg returms an error code processing /var/cache /apt/archives/libsqlite
[11:06] <move> unregistered so no pm-back
[11:06] <kuckuck> offers the ubuntu-server installer a software raid configuration tool ?
[11:06] <move> tabman: I dunno, these guys will have to help you. I'm going to bed.
[11:07] <move> tabman: sorry
[11:07] <ardchoille> move: Yeah, I saw that :)
[11:07] <tabman> ok help me out guys :)
[11:07] <tabman> archoille: the folder is locked
[11:07] <kuckuck> nobody using ubuntu-server yet ?
[11:08] <kuckuck> not usable yet ?
[11:08] <ardchoille> tabman: It won't be if you use sudo or gksudo
[11:08] <tabman> archoille: I know, you don't understand the problem, I've to give access to these files to Eclipse
[11:09] <du_> can anyone help me?
[11:09] <du_> i have a problem upgrading dapper to 6.06
[11:10] <du_> ok...
[11:10] <snowblink> dapper is 6.06
[11:10] <kuckuck> damn
[11:10] <snowblink> has anyone compiled apache 2.2.2 on Dapper?
[11:10] <du_> snowblink, i mean ubuntu 6.06
[11:11] <dreamthief> du_, dapper = ubuntu 6.06
[11:11] <ardchoille> du_: Dapper *is* Ubuntu 6.06
[11:11] <du_> dreamthief, yes i know ok..i explan better...dapper beta to ubuntu 6.06 ok?
[11:11] <dreamthief> just do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[11:12] <dreamthief> it works without any problem
[11:12] <snowblink> du_, dist-upgrade
[11:12] <du_> dreamthief, yes i know that things i use debian...
[11:12] <du_> dreamthief, but i get an error with a package
[11:12] <dreamthief> hm
[11:12] <ardchoille> du_: Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[11:12] <dreamthief> hm
[11:12] <tabman> how can I log in as root ?
[11:12] <du_> ardchoille, ok
[11:13] <mc__> tabman, you must first set the root password
[11:13] <dreamthief> I just wanted to ask him to do that, too ;)
[11:13] <ardchoille> tabman: You can't. the root account is disabled for security reasons, use sudo
[11:13] <tabman> mc_: how do I set the root password ?
[11:13] <dreamthief> sudo su ;)
[11:13] <Ivanowitch> tabman, why do you want to log in as root?
[11:13] <Elko> nm, fixed
[11:13] <mc__> tabman, sudo passwd root
[11:13] <tabman> ardchoille: I told you my problem above, unless someone solves it, I guess I'll have to log in as root and change permissions
[11:13] <ardchoille> !rootsudo > tabman
[11:13] <Ivanowitch> k
[11:13] <ardchoille> tabman: You can change permissions with sudo
[11:13] <tabman> ardchoille: I know whats a sudo
[11:13] <mc__> Ivanowitch,  if you have to do some administrative work it is nice to be root
[11:14] <tabman> ardchoille: thats what I've been asking, no ones telling
[11:14] <ardchoille> tabman: Read the msg ubotu sent you
[11:14] <tabman> I did
[11:14] <Ivanowitch> I would just run a sudo -i shell ... :S
[11:14] <munsa> Anyone know where I can get VmWare?
[11:14] <snowblink> munsa, google for it
[11:15] <snowblink> tabman, what's the problem?
[11:15] <ardchoille> snowblink: google working for you?
[11:15] <du_> ardchoille, i can' post on pastebin
[11:15] <ardchoille> du_: ok
[11:15] <snowblink> ardchoille, yes fine. What a strange question.
[11:15] <du_> i try to change sources.list..can u link me ?
[11:16] <tabman> snowblink: I installed the an app into my directory and the app is marked as locked, I want to remove that and give read/write/execute permission to all
[11:16] <ardchoille> snowblink: google isn't loading here, so I thought I'd ask
[11:16] <snowblink> tabman, chmod 777 your_folder
[11:16] <snowblink> tabman, sudo chmod 777 your_folder
[11:16] <BeBraw> how do i set environment variables in ubuntu?
[11:16] <Toys> can anyone recommend a good video player?
[11:17] <snowblink> BeBraw, export VAR=xxx
[11:17] <BeBraw> Toys: kaffeine
[11:17] <mc__> Toys, mplayer
[11:17] <munsa> Toys
[11:17] <munsa> Mplayer
[11:17] <munsa> is the best there is
[11:17] <ardchoille> tabman: the root sudo page has the answers to many of your questions
[11:17] <dli> Toys, xine vlc
[11:17] <munsa> It plays everything
[11:17] <Asc> try using 64.233.187.99 instead of google.com
[11:17] <mc__> Toys, yes mplayer is the best
[11:17] <Toys> thx
[11:17] <tabman> snowblink: i tried it, it doesn't give permissions
[11:17] <ardchoille> Asc: Ahh, a DNS problem. Thank you :)
[11:18] <tabman> snowblink in my fstab the umask for this partition is 000, if that serves anything
[11:18] <snowblink> tabman, when you type 'groups', is admin included?
[11:18] <tabman> yes its included
[11:18] <snowblink> tabman, what happens when you type 'sudo chmod 777 <the_folder>'
[11:19] <tengil> anyone have any idea why my swedish special characters wont work when i ssh'ing to a box and opening a screen with irssi in it. it works from my previous debian box. both computer im ssh'ing in from has no problem displaying the special characters in console
[11:19] <tabman> snowblink, nothing, the command line appears
[11:19] <administrator> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:19] <administrator>   libapache2-mod-php5: Depends: apache2-mpm-prefork (> 2.0.52) but it is not installable
[11:19] <administrator> E: Broken packages
[11:19] <administrator> what i have to do?
[11:19] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:19] <snowblink> tabman, so it has set the permissions?
[11:20] <nox-Hand> I have an xvid video, I need to convert it to something so that when I pop it in my DVD drive, it'll remain the same quality, but be playable. What would I do this with?
[11:20] <du_> i use the sources.list posted in wiki but i have an error when installing packages
[11:20] <tabman> snowblink: when I go into my folder and do /media/hda4/wtk2.2/bin$ ./ktoolbar
[11:20] <tabman> bash: ./ktoolbar: Permission denied
[11:20] <du_> "dpkg returms an error code processing /var/cache /apt/archives/libsqlite
[11:20] <BeBraw> snowblink: thanks. got it work
[11:21] <Daveyboy> how do i change the default wm in gnome
[11:21] <du_> "dpkg returms an error code processing /var/cache /apt/archives/libdevmapper
[11:21] <CrashProne> Anyone know what I have to pull to make Bub n Bros compile the extra modules it says I should?
[11:21] <tabman> snowblink: i want to give execute permissions to all the subfolders as well, may be thats the problem ?
[11:21] <ardchoille> Daveyboy: I wrote a tutorial for that, hold on, I'll get you a URL..
[11:21] <ardchoille> Daveyboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[11:22] <snowblink> tabman, is ktoolbar executable by your user?
[11:22] <pkh> help!!  I made a change to the passwd file, and now I sudo fails to run anything -- no errors, just no drops back to commandline!  any ideas what went wrong (p.s. I've reverted back to the previous passwd file, and still the same)
[11:22] <tabman> snowblink, I just did sudo chmod 777 /media/hda4/wtk2.2/bin/ktoolbar and now it allowed me to execute it without sudo
[11:22] <ardchoille> Daveyboy: That turorial is geared toward using openbox, but you can use that info to change wm to other wm's
[11:22] <tabman> snowblink: I want to give execute permission to wtk2.2 directory and all the subdirectories within it
[11:23] <snowblink> tabman, chmod -R, read man chmod
[11:23] <tabman> yeah Just saw it
[11:23] <tabman> snowblink: i guess thats the problem ?
[11:23] <administrator> !sources.list
[11:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:24] <Toys> does this sound like what i want?      MPlayer v1.0pre8 source
[11:24] <ardchoille> Toys: MPlayer is in the repos
[11:24] <ardchoille> !info mplayer
[11:24] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[11:25] <Daveyboy> ardchoille isn't there an easier way in gnome
[11:26] <rexykik> I want to install KDE alongside of xfce4 in my xubuntu. What command do I do?
[11:26] <ardchoille> Daveyboy: Easier than adding one line to a file and logging out and back in?
[11:27] <ardchoille> rexykik: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <Greyteam> IS THERE ANYBODY WHO KNOW WHAT THE RED APPLE IS IN VATIKAN?
[11:27] <rexykik> thanks much
[11:27] <rexykik> Greyteam, turn off the caps and ask again
[11:28] <rexykik> and it is spelled vatican
[11:28] <fab31> hi
[11:28] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[11:28] <[Wiebel] > how can I get wpa_supplicant to work with hidden ssid's?
[11:28] <du_> yukselD, hello can u send me your source.list?
[11:28] <yukselD> ok
[11:29] <yukselD> I send
[11:29] <Daveyboy> ardchoille even if im using kdm?
[11:29] <munsa> Hey is there any way that you can cancel a package you are downloading? I am downloading like 200 packages and I want to stop a few of them, but not all
[11:29] <Seveas> no need to get deaf
[11:29] <ardchoille> Daveyboy: Oh, sorry, You said "in gnome" so I thought you meant gnome
[11:30] <ardchoille> Seveas: lol
[11:30] <yukselD> du_ it is OK?
[11:30] <du_> yukselD, yes, thx!
[11:30] <mcphail> Seveas: wasn't that a bit harsh?
[11:31] <Seveas> mcphail, it was
[11:32] <pkh> does anyone know about the way sudo works?  I've screwed it up and now can't work as supervisor!
[11:33] <ic56> pkh: how did you revert to old password file?
[11:33] <rexykik> i'm getting a "ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:00.0 disabled" in my dmesg after inserting my rt2500 card. Any ideas on how to change this so it doesn't shut it off?
[11:33] <pkh> used cd, rescue mode, cp old out and new in
[11:33] <pkh> reboot
[11:33] <munsa> I am trying to download a bunch of packages but I just realized that I chose too many, does anyone know if there is a way that I can cancel a few of them without stopping the entire thing?
[11:34] <ic56> pkh: that's good.  Do you know what the change was that broke it?
[11:34] <ruxpin> how can I configure /etc/network/interfaces so that I use dhcpcd instead of dhclient? why isn't dhclient.conf read by ifup?
[11:34] <rexykik> lol ic56
[11:34] <rexykik> no he doesn't
[11:34] <rexykik> funny question though
[11:34] <stuart_> is nautilus used to display desktop icons? i think i deleted it from the session dialog by mistake and now i can't see my desktop properly
[11:34] <stuart_> and if so what parameters should it be running with? (system>preferences>sessions>current_session)
[11:34] <pkh> ic56, yes, i was trying to make user 1001 who had been put in group 1001 into group users (100) but I think I changed the wrong column...
[11:35] <ic56> pkh: ok.  Which files did you edit while trying to make the change?
[11:35] <ardchoille> stuart_: Yes, nautilus manages the desktop. I don't know the parameters cuz I turned the desktop off.
[11:35] <pkh> /etc/passwd only
[11:35] <mcphail> pkh: don't change groups from the passwd file
[11:35] <pkh> mcphail, ah... ok
[11:36] <ic56> pkh: hmmm. ok.
[11:36] <mcphail> pkh: bit late now, i suppose...
[11:36] <stuart_> thanks ardchoille.  at least i think i'm on the right track to fixing it
[11:36] <ic56> mcphail: why not change groups from the password file?  Do you have a good reason for advising this?
[11:36] <pkh> the users can now log in correctly, only problem I see is that sudo just drops without executing anything
[11:36] <ardchoille> stuart_: also, nautilus starts up with gnome and acts as a daemon to manage the desktop. You're welcome :)
[11:37] <ic56> pkh: let's take a look at your password file.
[11:37] <pkh> (p.s. it does ask for the password first run, and complains if that password is wrong...  then if the passwor dis right, it drops to prompt)
[11:37] <mcphail> ic56: yes. /etc/passwd is only one part of the user/groups jigsaw
[11:37] <pkh> ah
[11:37] <pkh> ummm, i'll have to reboot out of the recovery console to access it.
[11:37] <pkh> hang on a sec.
[11:38] <dungodung> I can't seem to find a good GUI chess game for ubuntu. anyone have any suggestion?
[11:38] <ic56> pkh: that's good.  Probably, the group is wrong.  sudo relies on the group being a particular value
[11:38] <brotakul> hi. i have 4 broken packages in synaptic[alien and 3 of it's libraries] . if i try to remove them, synaptic wants to also remove all my software, even gnome-panel. what can i do? i can't install/uninstall anything at the moment.
[11:38] <stuart_> thanks again ardchoille,  i'll bash around and see what i can come up with.
[11:39] <pkh> ic56, ok.  i've got the recovery console (at the other end of the room) should I be looking for anythign in particular?
[11:39] <ic56> pkh: what's the name of the user who is unable to sudo?
[11:39] <pkh> paulhannah
[11:39] <pkh> (me)
[11:40] <pkh> that users values weren't changed.  only a few others.
[11:40] <ic56> pkh: ok.  As you know, fields in the /etc/password are separated by colons (the : character)
[11:40] <DrBashir> anyone with knowladge of cedega here?
[11:40] <pkh> yep
[11:40] <ic56> pkh: what are teh values of the 3rd and 4th fields for user paulhannah?
[11:40] <mwtb> I have a samba share on an FC4 server which is readable and writable by my Windows machines. My ubuntu install can read it but not write to it, although the user is the same. Also, some folders that are recognised as folders by the Windows boxes (and created by them) are shown as unknown files in Ubuntu. Any clues?
[11:41] <pkh> pkh:x:1000:1000:Paul,,,:/home/paulhannah:/bin/bash
[11:42] <ardchoille> mwtb: I don't know about samba, but you can use the "file" command to see what type of file those "folders" actually are:  file /path/to/directory  or file /path/filename
[11:42] <mwtb> ardchoille: Okay, I'll try that. Thanks.
[11:42] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[11:43] <ic56> pkh: hmmm, that's unexpected -- it seems correct.  Ok, let's look at /etc/group
[11:43] <mcphail> pkh: what does "sudo grpck" return?
[11:43] <Greyteam> IS THERE ANYBODY WHO KNOW WHAT THE MEANING OF RED APPLE IN VATIKAN?
[11:43] <InvisiblePinkUni> i have 2 hard disks and want to RAID 1 them... what options do i choose while installing? It asks me which hard disk i want to install ubuntu on. I want it on both being raided
[11:43] <Greyteam> IS THERE ANYBODY WHO KNOW WHAT THE MEANING OF RED APPLE IN VATIKAN?
[11:43] <pkh> mcphail, I'd have to reboot out of the recovery console (but after playing around I'd say it will return nothing, just drop to prompt)
[11:43] <ardchoille> Greyteam: Stop it!
[11:44] <Greyteam> WHY MAN?
[11:44] <snowblink> !ops
[11:44] <ubotu> Help! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:44] <pkh> when I run 'sudo ls' I get the prompt, nothing else
[11:44] <InvisiblePinkUni> !raid
[11:44] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:44] <mcphail> pkh: of course, you can't get sudo --- Aargh
[11:44] <ardchoille> You wer just kicked for that, turn off the caps lock and respect the fact that this is an ubuntu support channel
[11:44] <Seveas> Madpilot, teamwork 
[11:44] <Madpilot> Seveas, heh
[11:44] <pkh> ic56, what do you want to see from /etc/group?
[11:44] <brotakul> hi. i have 4 broken packages in synaptic[alien and 3 of it's libraries] . if i try to remove them, synaptic wants to also remove all my software, even gnome-panel. what can i do? i can't install/uninstall anything at the moment.
[11:44] <mcphail> Seveas: ok, you were right to kick him the first time
[11:45] <pkh> mcphail, if I mkdir a folder, it comes up as paulhannah:paulhannah (i.e. i appera to be running as group paulhannah -> 1000 and user paulhannah ->1000)
[11:45] <Seveas> mcphail, I have a 6th sense for such things
[11:45] <ardchoille> Seveas: hehe
[11:45] <mcphail> Seveas: :)
[11:45] <snowblink> pkh, sounds like you are no longer in a group allowed to sudo
[11:45] <mwtb> Hmm... file says permission denied. "ls -l" shows bunch of question marks against the file permissions. From the server side everything looks fine.
[11:45] <ic56> phk: look for the admin line in /etc/group .  What does it say?
[11:46] <danya> anybody knows how to install a guest OS on VMware in ubuntu ?
[11:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> where do i choose RAID option during Dapper installation?
[11:46] <Seveas> InvisiblePinkUni, live/desktop cd or alternate?
[11:46] <pkh> ic56, admin:x:108:
[11:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Seveas: either one
[11:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Seveas: been scratching my head for a while...
[11:46] <Seveas> InvisiblePinkUni, live/desktop: impossible, alternate: in the partition manager
[11:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> Seveas: any documentation i can find on that please?
[11:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> Seveas: I mean guide...
[11:47] <Seveas> mark the partitions as 'part of a raid set' oslt (forgot the exact wording) instead of sayying mount as /var
[11:47] <ic56> pkh: that's the problem
[11:47] <Seveas> !install > InvisiblePinkUni
[11:47] <mwtb> Is there a way to refresh the fstab mounts without rebooting?
[11:47] <ic56> pkh: ok. We need to edit /etc/group and /etc/gshadow
[11:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> oh ok... thanks Seveas
[11:47] <pkh> ic56, so I should change that?
[11:47] <pkh> ic56, ok.
[11:48] <brotakul> hi. i have 4 broken packages in synaptic[alien and 3 of it's libraries] . if i try to remove them, synaptic wants to also remove all my software, even gnome-panel. what can i do? i can't install/uninstall anything at the moment.
[11:48] <jrib> mwtb: sudo mount -a
[11:48] <yukselD> danya I first install from vmware rpm pack and affter use alien result .deb pack
[11:48] <mwtb> jrib: Thanks.
[11:48] <Seveas> brotakul, sudo apt-get -f install
[11:48] <sunder> hi
[11:48] <ic56> pkh: each of these files has an admin entry.  You need to append paulhannah after teh trailing colon.  If the gshadow entry isn't same as the /etc/group entry, tell me what it is.
[11:48] <unikron> anyone know of a usb speakerphone that works in linux?
[11:48] <danya> I used VMware I found in synaptic - does that work ?
[11:48] <unikron> just works
[11:48] <sunder> can anyone teach me how to configure mail server
[11:48] <danya> yukselD, I just don't know how to make a machine
[11:48] <sunder> ??
[11:48] <danya> yukselD, I just don't know how to make a host
[11:49] <pkh> ic56, gshadow line: admin:!::
[11:49] <mwtb> And it fixed it... I suspect samba to be a bit flaky.
[11:49] <brotakul> Seveas: it doesn't work. unable to correct dependencies
[11:49] <Seveas> brotakul, output of apt-get -f install on the pastebin please
[11:49] <mcphail> danya: i think it is just the vmware _player_ in the repos
[11:49] <InvisiblePinkUni> Seveas: one more thing... i have a P4 64bit processor... is it recommended to install i386 or alternate-amd64
[11:49] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - lsusb is hanging my dapper system, ive got an intel 82801G usb2 controller, a dell usb mouse and keyboard , any ideas?
[11:49] <Seveas> InvisiblePinkUni, p4 64 bit? is that emt64?
[11:49] <danya> so... player won't make a host... :(
[11:49] <CarinArr> invisiblepinkuni, if it's not an amd..
[11:49] <InvisiblePinkUni> Seveas: yes
[11:50] <danya> how do I make a host ?
[11:50] <danya> sorry , a guest
[11:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> CarinArr: its P4
[11:50] <ic56> pkh: yeah, ok.  That doesn't need correction.  So just append paulhannah to the end of the line in each of the files.
[11:50] <echoecho> q
[11:50] <ardchoille> danya: player only "plays" them, I think you need vmware server
[11:50] <mcphail> InvisiblePinkUni: you can use either
[11:50] <Seveas> InvisiblePinkUni, you can do the 64bit ubuntu, you'll lose multimedia capabilities thoug due to being closed source (mainly wmv and flash)
[11:50] <pkh> ic56, :)  nano doesn't work -- what should I use...
[11:50] <danya> rr.... I hate closed source...
[11:51] <yukselD> danya I remember, google have any "how to"  documents
[11:51] <CarinArr> wouldn't i686 be a better option than i386?
[11:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> oh ok...
[11:51] <danya> yukselD, I think we go back to plan A: installing kqemu
[11:51] <Toys> have a good night ppl
[11:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> thanks all
[11:51] <mcphail> danya: kqemu is closed source
[11:51] <administrator> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[11:51] <administrator> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[11:51] <Guest56795> Hey
[11:51] <administrator> what i have to do ?
[11:51] <danya> but at least it's free...
[11:52] <mcphail> danya: so is vmware-server
[11:52] <pkh> ic56, the long way would be for me to reboot into normal mode, copy the files to my home dir, edit and then reboot into the rescue, but i'm wondering if there's a more basic editor?
[11:52] <danya> mcphail, you told me to use VMWARE but I can't
[11:52] <tabman> how can I use chmodd 777 with -r ?
[11:52] <el_cap> This is probably a really stupid problem
[11:52] <ic56> pkh: sed should be available.   Let's confirm it is.  Type sed and press enter.  it should block (no prompt).  Press ctl-D to get the prompt back.  If sed isn't available, you'll get an error message.  Let me know which way it goes
[11:52] <danya> mcphail, really ? server is also free ?
[11:52] <el_cap> but I messed up my partitioning
[11:52] <el_cap> :/
[11:52] <jrib> tabman: what does the -r mean?
[11:52] <el_cap> when installing
[11:52] <danya> mcphail, than we stay at plan B ?
[11:52] <mcphail> danya: yes. workstation is not free, but worth the money
[11:53] <danya> mcphail, server will do the guest WIN XP?
[11:53] <Fawlty> Does anyone know of away I'd be able to resize the partition I have ubuntu on?
[11:53] <mcphail> danya: i believe so. I use workstation, not server
[11:53] <pkh> ic56, sed on the commandline gives me usage instructions.
[11:53] <Ng> the vmware player is free too and you can host XP in that
[11:53] <tabman> jrib: i figure it out its -R not -r, that was the problem
[11:53] <ardchoille> tabman: 02:23:03 < snowblink> tabman, chmod -R, read man chmod
[11:53] <ic56> pkh: ah. ok. good enough.
[11:53] <Ng> vmware server is almost certainly overkill just to run one instance of XP
[11:53] <mcphail> Ng: he wants to create a guest
[11:54] <jrib> tabman: k
[11:54] <danya> mcphail, what's the difference - I only do that 4 a friend. I promised her to install UBUNTU along side with XP
[11:54] <ic56> pkh: BTW, yes there is a basic editor, but you would know how to use it.  With sed, it's easier to give you instructions.
[11:55] <pkh> ic56, thanks -- i've used sed many years ago, but can't remember anything from those days.
[11:55] <hangfire> Fawlty- do you just have ubuntu on your HD?
[11:55] <Fawlty> Just to clarify, I installed ubuntu but wanted to leave a bigger partition for windows
[11:55] <Fawlty> No
[11:55] <InvisiblePinkUni> bugging again... is there a way to know what software's are available for alternate-amd64 through synaptic?
[11:55] <Fawlty> Xp and Ubuntu
[11:55] <mcphail> danya: player - will play prebuilt virtual machines. Workstation - best bet for a windows desktop on top of linux. Server - can run vmachines in background, but isn't quite as polished as workstation for desktop use
[11:55] <ic56> pkh: Type this: sed -i '/^admin/s/$/paulhannah' /etc/group
[11:55] <ic56> pkh: then repeat for /etc/gshadow
[11:55] <jrib> InvisiblePinkUni: are you running i386 now?
[11:56] <InvisiblePinkUni> jrib: yes...
[11:56] <ic56> pkh: let me know of any error messages
[11:56] <mcphail> danya: the other vmware products on the website are enterprise grade
[11:56] <danya> mcphail, I can't really pay for their workstation
[11:56] <jrib> InvisiblePinkUni: you can use packages.ubuntu.com, not sure if you can use synaptic
[11:56] <mcphail> danya: then download server, create a virtual machine and run it in player
[11:56] <ic56> pkh: wait
[11:56] <InvisiblePinkUni> jrib: but i have another p4 emt64 ... so cant decide which version to put it.... alternate-i386 or alternate-amd64
[11:56] <Fawlty> So, any ideas? :/
[11:57] <pkh> ic56, unterminated s command (p.s. I'm doing this on grouptest first, so don't panic...)
[11:57] <mcphail> danya: (or use the free trial of workstation, but i don't know if the VM will expire at the end of trial)
[11:57] <jrib> InvisiblePinkUni: if you are going to be using it for a lot multimedia stuff like flash and wmv, then I'd say amd64 is too much of a hassle now
[11:57] <ic56> pkh: better use this (colon after admin).  It's more accurate. Here's a fix for the unterminated command too sed -i '/^admin:/s/$/paulhannah/' /etc/group
[11:57] <mcphail> InvisiblePinkUni: i386 will cause less problems
[11:58] <ic56> pkh: ok, that should be fine
[11:58] <ardchoille> Back in a bit :)
[11:58] <munsa> anyone know how to install flash player?
[11:58] <danya> mcphail, you know which product I have to download- there are to many of them\
[11:58] <jrib> !flash > munsa
[11:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> jrib: mcphail : i want to raid it and put apache, subversion and open ssh
[11:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> :)
[11:58] <munsa> thiank
[11:59] <cavediver> If you open a program from the panel, a horrible line is animated across the whole screen. How do I remove that ?
[11:59] <mcphail> danya: why not download the free trial of the workstation (if they are still running it). It is the most user-friendly and will give you an idea if you like it
[11:59] <munsa> cavediver hit it with a hammer
[11:59] <Fawlty> Seeing as I now have GRUB on it would deleting the ubuntu partition and reinstalling it give me problems?
[11:59] <munsa> thats what I do
[11:59] <pkh> ic56, change made, rebooting now -- thanks and fingers crossed.
[11:59] <mcphail> InvisiblePinkUni: the i386 kernel will be fine (but update it to i686 after install for best performance)
[11:59] <ic56> pkh: stop
[12:00] <cavediver> munsa: I'm thinking about it. I know it can be removed. Did iy on my dekstop but I can't remember how
[12:00] <pkh> ah shit...
[12:00] <ic56> pkh: we need to check /etc/sudoers
[12:00] <danya> mcphail, but on the download page there are so many options: check this: http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html (I fill really stupid...)
[12:00] <InvisiblePinkUni> mcphail: is there an i686? i cant find it
[12:00] <jrib> InvisiblePinkUni: I believe those should work well on an amd64, but I don't run one myself
[12:00] <stuart_> can some one tell me what nautilus command (and arguments) runs by default when gnome starts.  it should be visible in system>preferences>sessions>current_session
[12:00] <pkh> ic56, stop?
[12:00] <mcphail> InvisiblePinkUni: you can install a 686 kernel when your system has been installed and set up
[12:00] <Fawlty> yeah
[12:00] <pkh> ic56, i had already checked sudoers (from google source) and i looked fine -- now rebooted and working fine --thanks!!!
[12:00] <Fawlty> I'll go
[12:00] <InvisiblePinkUni> mcphail: oh ok....
[12:00] <Fawlty> and try that now
[12:00] <Fawlty> thanks
[12:00] <Fawlty> :/
[12:01] <ic56> pkh: well, if it's already booting, we might as well see if it worked
[12:01] <ic56> pkh: ah. good.
[12:01] <ic56> pkh: yw!
[12:01] <pkh> ic56, can you give me some more advice...
[12:01] <ic56> pkh: ask away
[12:02] <pkh> ic56, the reason I started all this is that I have a svn setup that i copied from an older server.  everyone was primarily in group users, for that to work (everything is 755 from memory) -- is that the right way to have it set up?  and if so, how do I get  the users set up that way?
[12:02] <mcphail> danya: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/eval.html would be your best bet
[12:03] <danya> mcphail, but I don't want something that will expire after a month...
[12:03] <llama32> how well supported [in terms of linux drivers, hardware acceleration, etc.]  are IBM thinkpads? specifically r51...
[12:03] <ic56> pkh: what is "svn"?
[12:04] <pkh> ic56, subversion.
[12:04] <InvisiblePinkUni> ic56 subversion
[12:04] <mcphail> danya: ok, download the server instead. I'm only suggesting this as this is all new to you, and you are struggling
[12:05] <pkh> ic56, i'll simplify my question a bit -- should all users be in group users?  should that be the primary group (or secondary with the username group as primary) and... how would I go about that?
[12:05] <pkh> i set them up initially using useradd...
[12:05] <danya> mcphail, I really appreciate it - but I got confused with so many products (and really bad documantion)
[12:05] <hbi> hey i need someones help.... im trying to edit the kismet.conf file to put in my wireless card but when i oppen it change the parts i need to an go to save it i get a permission error.... how do i fix this?
[12:06] <danya> mcphail, the link I gave you has so many servers to download...
[12:06] <mcphail> danya: it is a confusing topic. The 30 day free trial is honestly the best way to go.
[12:06] <mcphail> danya: if you find you like it, try the server. But setup is more difficult
[12:06] <ic56> pkh: having all users belong to group "users" is a reasonable setup.  Whether you make that everyone's primary group or a secondary group depends on what you want the default group owner for files being created
[12:06] <danya> hm... but the thing is my friend will kill me...
[12:06] <Lynoure> hbi: so, should you have permission for editing (writing) the file? Do you?
[12:07] <hbi> i can edit it yes
[12:07] <mcphail> danya: i suspect the virtual machines you create in the trial period will be usable on vmplayer forever
[12:07] <hbi> but just not save the changes
[12:07] <danya> I am doing this only so she can get used to linux and still cling to her silly windows Xp
[12:07] <mcphail> danya: what does she use XP for?
[12:07] <danya> mcphail, are you sure ?
[12:07] <pkh> ic56, it's primary use is as a samba server, so I'm going to assume that primary group being users would make more sense (that way group based protections will work better if differnet people are creating files)
[12:07] <Lynoure> hbi: the editing of the _file_ usually happens only when your editor saves the changes to the file.
[12:07] <ic56> pkh: by default, in Linux, when you create a file, it is made to belong to the same group as the process that created it.  Under most circumstances, that group is the same as your primary group.
[12:08] <ic56> pkh: who's primary use is as a samba server?
[12:08] <hbi> well i open up the .conf then change the source to fit my requirements go to save and i get a permission error... how do i get past this?
[12:08] <Lynoure> hbi: so, check that you have write permissions to the file.
[12:08] <pkh> the machine lives for two purposes -- svn and samba
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> hbi: use sudo to open it.
[12:08] <pkh> ic56, i think I'm going to go with primary group = users...  what is the accepted way to make that change?
[12:09] <InvisiblePinkUni> !alternate
[12:09] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[12:09] <ic56> pkh: wait a minute.
[12:09] <ic56> pkh: whatever you do needs to be same in all machines that share files in your network
[12:10] <ic56> pkh: if you set up different defaults between the samba server and the samba clients, you're setting yourself up for trouble
[12:10] <WhiteNinja> hello... just started synaptic to install kde... after changing to kde-sessions the keyboard shows strange behaviours... (all letters are typing rapidly unlimited times).. tried to reboot, changing keyboard options... nothing worked .. when i am starting recovery mode, then x-sessions, all is working well... any suggestions?
[12:10] <pkh> ic56, all users run xp...
[12:11] <winrik> haalllo
[12:12] <ic56> pkh: ah.  WindowsXP has a concept of groups too though.  Are you addressing this in your SAMBA setup or are you ignoring it?
[12:12] <pkh> ignoring it...  each user just creates a persistent drive using /user and password on the commandline (we're a very small group)
[12:14] <danya> mcphail, basicaly my friend uses XP for browsing the internet, word processing and emailing
[12:14] <danya> mcphail, I think she can change really easy to ubuntu
[12:14] <hbi> ok so how do u save using sudo from root?
[12:14] <danya> but she still need excell for homework
[12:15] <soundray> Is there a way I can play a .iso file as if it was a DVD?
[12:15] <ic56> pkh: hmmm, it doesn't sound like your users are aware of the possibility of sharing files through the filesystem.  To avoid surprises (new kid in the office reads old timer's private documents) perhaps its best you eliminate the possibility.  If your samba forces a 077 umask on everything, then the group won't matter but if
[12:15] <Jell-O-Fishi> soundray : feed it to mplayer
[12:15] <Jell-O-Fishi> or open it with vlc
[12:15] <dli> danya, try gnumeric or oocalc2
[12:15] <danya> mcphail, I have started to download the RPM
[12:16] <danya> dli, unfortunatly gnumerin and oocalc2 are not good enough
[12:16] <mcphail> danya: which rpm?
[12:16] <ic56> pkh: a user ever gets the opportunity to set the perms accidentally to something else, then you need to worry about what group that user belongs to.
[12:16] <danya> mcphail, WMware-workstation5.5rpm
[12:16] <danya> how should I install rpm in UBUNTU ?
[12:16] <soundray> Jell-O-Fishi: thanks, got it working.
[12:16] <mcphail> danya: i think the tar.gz is the better bet
[12:16] <danya> mcphail, ok
[12:16] <ic56> pkh: actually, now that I think about it, putting everyone in one group makes for a more secure setup
[12:16] <danya> mcphail, then I have to compile ?
[12:17] <mcphail> danya: you will have to compile the kernel modules. The installer will do this for you
[12:17] <pkh> ic56, ok understood.  each user has a 'home' dir under samba for personal files -- and one 'general' share that everyone has equal rw access to -- i think common users group is the best option for us here.
[12:17] <mcphail> danya: you would have to do this with the RPM as well
[12:18] <danya> mcphail, ok... I am getting so desperate here... I want apt-get everything
[12:18] <danya> I am a lazy man
[12:18] <mcphail> danya: make sure you have the appropriate kernel headers installed
[12:18] <ic56> pkh: easier to administer.  Anyway the right way to change things is to use vipw and vigr
[12:18] <mcphail> danya: RPMs are the antithesis of apt-get
[12:18] <administrator> how i can  remove any thing installed related to apache ?
[12:18] <danya> I have done - apt-get build-essential kernel-headers-<my version of kernel>
[12:19] <mcphail> danya: excellent
[12:19] <ic56> pkh: vipw startsyour favourite editor (defined by the $VISUAL envirnonment variable) on /etc/passwd and
[12:20] <ic56> pkh: then updates /etc/shadow  vigr does the same for /etc/group and /etc/gshadow
[12:20] <ic56> pkh: what's your favourite editor?  For how many users do you need to change the groups?
[12:22] <Leeiv> since i changed my theme while running xgl, my gnome is fucked up.
[12:22] <Leeiv> when i login i get a lot of errors
[12:22] <Leeiv> help plz
[12:22] <`blink> what is the packets name to locale menages?
[12:22] <Leeiv> i get: Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[12:23] <mcphail> Leeiv: please moderate your language
[12:23] <Leeiv> mcphail: ok
[12:24] <Leeiv> mcphail: can you help me?
[12:24] <CarinArr> does anyone know what package texi2pdf comes with? on my hoary box it seems to be in tetex-bin, but not in dapper it seems
[12:24] <mcphail> Leeiv: CORBA errors are beyond me, I'm afraid. I look on that as black magic.
[12:25] <kargath64> hullo
[12:25] <`blink> localeconf?
[12:25] <ic56> pkh: I think I might be wrong about vipw updating /etc/shadow .  The manpage doesn't say so.  Investigating
[12:26] <jrib> CarinArr: texinfo
[12:26] <kargath64> just a quick question, if anyone knows...
[12:27] <acuster> how is edgy doing these days?
[12:27] <kargath64> in dapper, is the kernel built with the same version gcc that is supplied with dapper?
[12:28] <Ng> kargath64: it's built with gcc 3.4, which is in the gcc-3.4 package. userspace packages are build with gcc 4, which is the gcc package
[12:28] <longwave> pkh, ic56: you need "vipw -s" to edit the shadow files
[12:28] <kargath64> dammit
[12:28] <kargath64> that makes ubuntu rather useless for me
[12:28] <Ng> kargath64: why?
[12:28] <whaley> how do packages get added to the repositories?  is there a review process?
[12:29] <mcphail> kargath64: i think the dapper kernel is built with gcc4, is it not?
[12:29] <kargath64> 'cause i have an nVIDIA vid card
[12:29] <capashen> hi! does someone use a sound card usb with ubuntu please ?
[12:29] <kargath64> and nforce mobo
[12:29] <frying_fish> kargath64: that shouldn't be causing any problems surely?
[12:29] <ic56> longwave: are you confirming that vipw does *not* automatically call pwconv or do the conversion itself?
[12:29] <tabman> I wanna check whether the linux bluetooth protocol stack is installed on my machine or not, how can I do that ?
[12:29] <Ng> kargath64: so?
[12:30] <longwave> ic56: i am pretty sure vipw on its on does not update the shadow files, you need to run vipw -s to specifically edit those
[12:30] <Ng> ooh, mcphail has a good point, it does indeed seem that the dapper kernel is built with gcc 4
[12:30] <Ng> I must have been thinking breezy
[12:30] <kargath64> and the drivers will not install if the gcc version on system is a different major version than what the kernel was built with
[12:30] <mcphail> it make life easier
[12:30] <MetaMorfoziS> why i can't kill a process? If i try kill it with any of the signals, it isn't stopped, (with sudo) how it possible? and what i can do for kill it anyways?
[12:30] <longwave> tabman: check the output of "dmesg" to see if there are any mentions of bluetooth
[12:30] <ic56> longwave. thank you. pwconv is a better option to editing the files manually.  At least for routine work
[12:30] <Ng> kargath64: like I said, both gcc's are available and nvidia graphics card drivers are included in ubuntu, but as mcphail pointed out, I'm wrong and the kernel is built with gcc 4
[12:30] <MetaMorfoziS> it's like windows....:(
[12:30] <Ng> !nvidia > kargath64
[12:30] <mcphail> kargath64: you can compile with an older version of gcc
[12:31] <tabman> longwave: yes there is
[12:31] <capashen> does anybody use a sound card usb with ubuntu please ?
[12:31] <kargath64> meaning that i have no sound, no 3d, no ethernet (so no internet/apt-get)
[12:31] <longwave> ic56: yes, pwconv or usermod are better than editing passwd/shadow directly
[12:31] <mcphail> kargath64: nforce4 board?
[12:31] <tabman> doing apt-get install gcc would install the gcc compiler ?
[12:32] <kargath64> mcphail: yes, nforce4 not Ultra
[12:32] <ic56> longwave: ty
[12:32] <pkh> ic56, thanks heaps -- have been at the door but will read your replies and get onto it -- thanks heaps for allyour help -- you saved me from 3 hours of reinstall i wasnot  looking forward to!!
[12:32] <mcphail> kargath64: my nforce4 board has "just worked" since breezy
[12:32] <cerberus> hey, I'm attempting to install php5 from source but during configure i get an error stating 'cannot find output from lex; giving up' does anyone know what's causing this and more importantly how to get past it?
[12:33] <kargath64> hmm
[12:33] <ic56> pkh: read the replies and get back to me.  There are questions to be answered as to the best way to proceed
[12:33] <capashen> no sound card usb with linux ? :'(
[12:33] <longwave> cerberus: do you have the "flex" package installed?
[12:34] <mcphail> kargath64: i had no probs with ubuntu, but at lot of probs with WinXP wrt networking etc
[12:34] <kargath64> wrt?
[12:34] <pkh> ic56, only a few users -- a quick google (should have done that this afternoon :) ) seems to indicate usermod -g is the way to go (number of users here is less than ten...)
[12:34] <mcphail> kargath64: with regards to
[12:34] <pkh> ic56, is that the best way to handle it?
[12:34] <cerberus> longwave, as a matter of fact, no. I guess I'll install that and see how things go, cheers
[12:34] <ic56> pkh: usermod is the slowest way
[12:35] <ic56> pkh: favourite editor?  Are you familiar with decent editors like vi or emacs?  Alternately, are you familiar with scripting?
[12:35] <tabman> how can I edit environment variables ?
[12:36] <mcphail> tabman: export VARIABLE=whatever
[12:36] <mcphail> tabman: this will only persist for the current shell session
[12:37] <tabman> mcphail: I wanna make it permanent, also I guess there is some bash_profile file through which you can set variables ?
[12:37] <pkh> ic56, used vi many many years ago -- bash scripting i have done some of but usually infrequently enough that I need to google for every command every time...  I think i'm going to take the wimps way out and usermod my way through each of the users :)
[12:37] <Ramunas> !w32codecs
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:37] <mcphail> tabman: adding the above to .bash_profile will do the job
[12:37] <mcphail> tabman: (but you will have to log out and log back in for it to take effect)
[12:38] <ic56> pkh: so, what are we doing here? changing the primary group of each user?
[12:39] <tabman> mcphail: where can I find the .bash_profile, I wanna see that file
[12:39] <pkh> ic56, yes
[12:39] <longwave> if there are only a handful of users i would just use usermod, it's safer than directly editing /etc/group and so on
[12:39] <longwave> tabman: it is in your home directory
[12:39] <mcphail> tabman: in your home directory.
[12:39] <longwave> tabman: but files beginning with a . do not show up by default, though it is there
[12:39] <mcphail> tabman: (remember that file starting with . are "hidden")
[12:40] <ic56> pkh: I take it you created each user manually using the defaults, so each has his own group?
[12:40] <mcphail> longwave: your typing is faster than mine!
[12:40] <longwave> :)
[12:40] <pkh> ic56, yeah, that started the whole thing
[12:40] <flevour> hi all, we have a dapper upgrade gone wild here: gnome-setting-daemon can't be started and crashes with the following error: OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 359: oil_test_check_impl(): illegal instruction in mt19937_i386_mmx_3
[12:41] <ic56> pkh: do you want to delete the per-user groups or do you want to preserve them, in case you decide to use them later?
[12:41] <pkh> i'm happy for them to stay around in case they're useful later...
[12:42] <longwave> pkh: in that case i would just add this group you want all the users to be in as a secondary group using usermod -G
[12:42] <longwave> users can be members of more than one group, remember :)
[12:42] <administrator> sudo reboot
[12:42] <administrator> sudo: unable to lookup HOME  via gethostbyname()
[12:42] <administrator> oem@HOME :~$
[12:42] <kargath64> !nforce
[12:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about nforce - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:42] <pkh> longwave, what i saw on google seemed to indicate that was a way to go
[12:42] <kargath64> damn
[12:42] <ic56> longwave: he needs the shared group to be primary so files will be created to belong to it.
[12:42] <Ivanowitch> !xffm
[12:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about xffm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:42] <Ramunas> I'm getting this message even though i have w32codecs installed, any ideas? Message: "Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[12:43] <ic56> longwave: pkh needs the shared group to be primary so files will be created to belong to it.
[12:43] <mcphail> isn't "adduser" the prferred way on debian-based systems?
[12:43] <longwave> pkh: you can make the parent folder setgid to and all newly created files will be in the group of the parent folder, if that's what you want
[12:43] <pkh> i've just tested that on a user and new files are being created with the users group
[12:43] <munsa> Hello, can someone help me install Flash on Dapper?
[12:43] <munsa> I downloaded and extracted but I cant figure out how to install it
[12:43] <jrib> munsa: did flashplugin-nonfree not work?
[12:43] <kargath64> there is no such thing as Flash on Linux, munsa
[12:44] <kargath64> it's just a rumor
[12:44] <kargath64> like the flying spaghetti monster
[12:44] <mc__> munsa, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:44] <pkh> longwave, I think that sounds a bit too much here -- my main concern is that I'm going to be handing the day-to-day maintenance on to someone with even less admin knowledge (a difficult thing given my level)...
[12:44] <munsa> Oh my goodness you seen that friggin thing too?
[12:44] <munsa> Flying Spagatti monster
[12:44] <ic56> pkh: ok, I'm done thinkg about this.  usermod is too inconvenient for what needs to be done.
[12:44] <AZAZ> sudo: unable to lookup HOME  via gethostbyname() <--- ?
[12:45] <pkh> ic56, thanks for you help.  much appreciated.
[12:45] <longwave> pkh: just "sudo chmod g+s parentfolder", all newly created folders will have the same group as the parent then
[12:45] <ic56> pkh: the easiest way, given your experience, is to manually edit /etc/passwd and /etc/group, and change each entry to the right settings.
[12:45] <ic56> pkh: I'll walk you through it
[12:45] <munsa> wierd
[12:45] <munsa> apt-get dosent work
[12:45] <jrib> munsa: you need the multiverse repository
[12:46] <munsa> whats that?
[12:46] <mc__> !easysource > munsa
[12:46] <ic56> pkh: first get yourself a root shell like so: sudo -i
[12:46] <munsa> sorry second day on Ubuntu
[12:46] <danya> anybody knows how can I share folders between 2 ubuntu laptops ? I have WiFi and a Router
[12:46] <pkh> i've gone through and changed the 7 users (usermod...) -- all finished and working perfectly!
[12:46] <jrib> !repos > munsa
[12:46] <pkh> ic56, i appreciate your help, but for this one-of, the inefficient tool will do the job...
[12:46] <ic56> pkh: are you sure you used the right usermod command?  Give me an example of what you used
[12:47] <Timma2> hello, i created a new user, but i need the folder in /home/ as it wasnt automatically created, an idea?
[12:47] <pkh> sudo usermod -g users paulhannah (lowercase sets the initial, as opposed to supplementary supposedly)
[12:47] <ic56> pkh: making the changes in the editor would have been easier than repeated usermod commands.
[12:47] <ic56> pkh: the usermod command you used is wrong
[12:48] <ic56> pkh: you didn't set the secondary group
[12:48] <pkh> ic56, oh, that should be set to the same name as the user?
[12:48] <danya> any1 ? I need help sharing folders between 2 ubuntu laptops ... ?
[12:49] <ic56> pkh: yes. the secondary group needs to be same as teh user.  Do you want my advice or would you rather go it alone?
[12:49] <Timma2> i have created a new user, but it didnt create the folder in /home/, how do i create it there?
[12:49] <jrib> Timma2: how did you create the user?
[12:49] <Timma2> user accounts thing, administration
[12:49] <mcphail> Timma2: did you use "adduser"?
[12:50] <Timma2> users and groups, in administration
[12:50] <munsa> Why doesnt Flash support linux?
[12:50] <munsa> Whats the deal
[12:50] <pkh> ic56, I think neither at the moment -- i've got my wife standing over my shoulder (for the last 20 minutes :) ) and really hinting that we should go :)  it's 7pm and i should have finished work at 4...  I need to run and hack at it tomorrow.
[12:50] <pkh> ic56, thanks again
[12:50] <jrib> munsa: flash 7 is available for linux
[12:50] <ic56> pkh: ok. ttyl
[12:50] <munsa> yea
[12:50] <munsa> i download it
[12:50] <munsa> jrib but I cant figure out how to install it
[12:51] <munsa> i unpacked it and everything
[12:51] <jrib> munsa: use the package from the multiverse repository
[12:51] <munsa> but I cant figure how to install
[12:51] <jrib> munsa: have you enabled multiverse?
[12:51] <longwave> !flash
[12:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:52] <Timma2> jrib/cphail how do i get the directory in /home/
[12:52] <Konstable> Ubuntu has corrupted my hard drive, and cost me 40GB worth of data accumulated over 5 years....
[12:52] <munsa> I think so
[12:52] <jrib> Timma2: I'm fairly certain that should create a user directory, does your user have one set in /etc/passwd?
[12:52] <mcphail> Timma2: i have never used the gui, but i am surprised it didn't create it
[12:52] <munsa> but I am downloading like 200 packages now
[12:53] <kkaisare> Konstable: That is unusual. How did that happen ?
[12:53] <Timma2> hmm, let me check
[12:53] <munsa> jrib how do I enable multiverse?
[12:53] <jrib> munsa: ubotu should have sent you the information in a private message
[12:53] <jrib> munsa: look for the link about repositories
[12:53] <Timma2> there isnt a /etc/passwd
[12:54] <jrib> Timma2: you are positive?
[12:54] <Timma2> yes
[12:54] <kkaisare> Konstable: And more interestingly, you imply that you never bothered to back up five years of your work. Most thorough on your part.
[12:54] <kargath64> also, does anyone know whether there are actual info pages in dapper?
[12:54] <mcphail> Timma2: i'll bet you there is
[12:54] <longwave> something very odd indeed is going on if you have no /etc/passwd!
[12:54] <Timma2> im in ect right now
[12:54] <FearMoth> with grep how can I match the word 'foo' AND 'bar' on the same line?
[12:54] <Konstable> kkaisare: I was trying to remove it from my dual boot.  Used the ubnutu installer to remove the two linux partitions, then resized the NTFS partition to fill up the empty space.  And now, the HD is corrupted.  I cant fixmbr, and I cant even finish a scandisk on it.
[12:54] <Timma2> also, i am un able to change my password
[12:54] <kargath64> as opposed to just transcribed man pages
[12:54] <munsa> thanks
[12:54] <kargath64> for gcc etc
[12:55] <longwave> Konstable: did you not heed the warnings about making backups before changing partition tables or especially resizing partitions? that's a very dangerous operation..
[12:55] <jrib> FearMoth: grep foo | grep bar
[12:55] <Timma2> pam.d , pango
[12:55] <Timma2> pcmia, perl, power, pp, python
[12:55] <Timma2> then the r s start
[12:55] <FearMoth> thanks
[12:55] <FearMoth> jrib ^
[12:55] <kkaisare> Konstable: I have never attempted resizing partitions because I have heard enough horror tales about it.
[12:56] <kargath64> mmm, alliteration
[12:56] <Konstable> longwave: I heeded the warnings.  I have some backups of the important things.  But I have done this 6 times before.  But usually using another program to do the partitioning.  This time I made the mistake of trusting the ubuntu installer.
[12:56] <jrib> Timma2: type 'ls /etc/passwd' just to be sure, because that file is pretty important
[12:56] <Timma2> it returned what i said
[12:56] <Timma2> but i cant see the folder
[12:57] <jrib> Timma2: what do you mean?
[12:57] <mcphail> How on earth can you log in without /etc/passwd?
[12:57] <Timma2> it said /etc/passwd
[12:57] <Timma2> after i did that ls thing
[12:57] <jrib> Timma2: that means it exists, type 'gedit /etc/passwd' to view it
[12:57] <mcphail> so it exists
[12:58] <Timma2> ok im in
[12:59] <Timma2> want me to paste my problem account line?
[12:59] <jrib> Timma2: sure
[12:59] <Timma2> guest:x:1001:1002:Guest,,,:/home/guest:/bin/bash
[12:59] <Timma2> need the account that im in now?
[01:00] <axl4711> hi
[01:00] <axl4711> is there someone that can  help me with my gnome desktop?
[01:00] <jrib> !ask
[01:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:00] <nox-Hand> DAMNIT!  New bug report coming...
[01:00] <jrib> Timma2: what does 'ls /home/guest' return?
[01:01] <axl4711> my gnome desktop hangs ... he does not get further than showning the panels (empty)
[01:01] <nox-Hand> When you select a load of packages to remove in Synaptic, and AFTER click 'mark all upgrades' it discards all changes, so the HUNDREDS of packages you've just selected to remove are forgotten DAMN
[01:01] <Timma2> no such file or directory
[01:01] <Seveas> !language > nox-Hand
[01:01] <axl4711> i thought it could have something to do with the applets in it?
[01:01] <nox-Hand> Seveas, Is that really a swearword? w00t.. Sorry mate..
[01:02] <Seveas> nox-Hand, yes, this channel has an almost zero-tolerance on swearing and it works surprisingly well
[01:03] <Ace2005> Anyone know where i can get boot themes for ubuntu?
[01:03] <jrib> Timma2: k, do you happen to have a /home/skel?
[01:03] <Seveas> Ace2005, almost nowhere since they're not too easy to make
[01:03] <Timma2> no
[01:03] <Timma2> only /home/tim
[01:03] <Timma2> and, my brother might of stuffed something
[01:03] <Timma2> he made a /home/timisgay
[01:03] <Ace2005> Seveas: Any replacements for usplash which have lots of themes?
[01:04] <mcphail> lol
[01:04] <Timma2> and that has a red cross on its bottom left
[01:04] <Seveas> Ace2005, no
[01:04] <Seveas> nox-Hand, I'd appreciate that 
[01:04] <Ace2005> :(
[01:04] <axl4711> anyone knows why my gnome desktop does not get further than diskplaying the empty panels and thats it? (after a few seconds they disapper too)
[01:04] <jrib> Timma2: sudo cp -r /etc/skel/ /home && sudo mv /home/skel /home/guest && sudo chown guest:guest /home/guest
[01:04] <ic56> Seveas: what character set are you using?
[01:05] <AZAZ> !lamp
[01:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:05] <Timma2> should that create it?
[01:05] <AZAZ> !apache
[01:05] <jrib> Timma2: yes
[01:05] <Seveas> ic56, unicode
[01:05] <Timma2> ok
[01:05] <nox-Hand> Seveas, That smiley you are writing is a bit different in xchat. What is it? :-)
[01:05] <longwave> axl4711: can you start gnome in safe mode?
[01:05] <Timma2> thank you
[01:05] <Seveas> ! 
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <Timma2> dont i need to create Desktop folder in it?
[01:05] <AZAZ> !apache
[01:05] <Seveas> ! -#ubutnu-offtopic
[01:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about -#ubutnu-offtopic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <jrib> Timma2: no that gets created when you login with that account
[01:05] <Seveas> ubotu, you broken bot
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about you broken bot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <Timma2> ok
[01:05] <Timma2> great!
[01:05] <Timma2> thanks alot
[01:06] <axl4711> longwave: first time yes... there were severaly errors abou the applets in the panel... the second time i didn't get into failesafe either
[01:06] <ic56> Seveas: thanks.
[01:06] <give> You guys probably know, how to show the current cups printjobs?
[01:07] <longwave> give: "lpq"
[01:07] <longwave> at least i think that works for cups
[01:08] <axl4711> longwave:  what is lpq? he says no default destination available
[01:11] <Jell-O-Fishi> axl4711 : Line Printer Queue. shows current print jobs
[01:11] <axl4711> ok.. than the answer about lpq was not meant for me :-)
[01:12] <munsa> ok, can someone explain something for me?
[01:12] <jrib> munsa: just ask
[01:12] <munsa> How does open source work? I mean Ubuntu is awsome
[01:12] <munsa> but how do they make any money?
[01:12] <munsa> Donations only?
[01:13] <rsk> munsa, no money. its community driven
[01:13] <InterNut> munsa: comercial support
[01:13] <axl4711> no suggestions what i can do about my hanging gnome desktop?
[01:13] <mc__> munsa, google for it
[01:13] <munsa> how do open source projects like Ubuntu make money
[01:13] <munsa> well someone has to make some money ya know
[01:13] <mc__> munsa, support,selling ubuntu
[01:13] <esher> selling ubuntu
[01:13] <munsa> i see
[01:13] <rsk> munsa, decelopers often have sidejobs
[01:13] <ic56> munsa: I make no money answering your questions here but it's fun and I spend a fair amount of my spare time doing it.  It's addictive.  That's how most open source gets developed
[01:13] <mc__> munsa, it is not true that someone hast to make money
[01:13] <rsk> munsa, and do work for ubuntu for free
[01:13] <munsa> that kinda sucks
[01:13] <tabman> I need to see what paths are the following variables set to and need to change them after that: JDK_HOME, JDK_PLATFORM,BIN_DIR
[01:13] <mc__> munsa, look at debian the dont get any money
[01:14] <GnarusLeo> Hi, Im using ubuntu/kde and im looking for a really fast and simple image viewer ... anyone to help me out?
[01:14] <munsa> really?
[01:14] <munsa> wow that is really awsome
[01:14] <rsk> yes
[01:14] <InterNut> munsa: http://www.canonical.com/support
[01:14] <munsa> i mean I always thought there was some kinda catch ya know
[01:14] <hypnox> munsa, heh, welcome to a whole other way of looking at the world
[01:14] <munsa> You know I read somewhere that there is a total of 8,000 human years of work involved in Debian alone
[01:14] <esher> Mark Shuttleworth has enough money
[01:15] <esher> he dont need to make more
[01:15] <munsa> 8,000 years!
[01:15] <munsa> thats mad!
[01:15] <munsa> haha
[01:15] <esher> he spends more then 10 million dollers to the ubutu foundation :D
[01:15] <tabman> I need to see what paths are the following variables set to and need to change them after that: JDK_HOME, JDK_PLATFORM,BIN_DIR
[01:15] <munsa> esher he just does it because he loves linux?
[01:15] <mc__> esher,he'll get his money back when ubuntu is world dominating
[01:15] <mcphail> munsa: it will be a lot more than 8000 years when you add up the work time on all of the packages
[01:15] <mc__> munsa, i dont think so ;)
[01:16] <munsa> I hoppe so
[01:16] <stuart_> esher: iirc it's 10 million a year
[01:16] <munsa> I dont understand why anyone would want to use Microsoft
[01:16] <munsa> I mean
[01:16] <munsa> Linux is sooooo much easier
[01:16] <CarinArr> o.O
[01:16] <munsa> i mean anything you want is here
[01:16] <munsa> for free
[01:16] <mc__> munsa,  i dont think so
[01:16] <munsa> no catch
[01:16] <munsa> just download it
[01:16] <munsa> haha
[01:16] <hypnox> except games..
[01:16] <rsk> munsa, people get used to ms when they buy a computer cause its presinstalled
[01:16] <CarinArr> don't get me wrong, i love linux, but if you're not into computers and things go wrong, you're fecked
[01:16] <mc__> munsa, not everything is there for free
[01:16] <munsa> except Games and VMware
[01:16] <munsa> lol
[01:17] <munsa> yea but if it isnt free sure there is an open source equil somewhere
[01:17] <mc__> munsa, there is no really good video manipulating sw
[01:17] <tabman> munsa: why do you think linux is so much easier ? I'm switching from windows to linux for development purpose, but there are many problems to solve, its been 2 weeks I'm figuring out development issues on Ubuntu
[01:17] <mc__> munsa, there are kino and so on but they arent good
[01:17] <axl4711> gnome desktop does not get further than diskplaying the empty panels and thats it (after a few seconds they disapper too).. any suggestions what i can do?
[01:17] <CarinArr> not so free
[01:17] <munsa> Speaking of Games... Is there any good ones out there? I mean I dont need super awsome 3-d shoot em up blasters I just need something for my wife
[01:17] <CarinArr> heh
[01:17] <hypnox> there is a lack of commercially developed (aka really damn good) software, like games, video editing tools, financial software, lots of things like that
[01:17] <mc__> tabman, 2 weeks??? how long have you  been using windows?
[01:17] <mcphail> tabman: how many years have you spent "learning" windows?
[01:18] <rsk> munsa, all quake games comes native to linux
[01:18] <mc__> hypnox, gnucash is a really good financial software
[01:18] <munsa>  mc_ it is not easier as far as use, but i can say it is AS easy as windows
[01:18] <tabman> i've been using windows since 8 years now
[01:18] <munsa> It took me a long time to learn to use windows
[01:18] <GnarusLeo> Hi, Im using ubuntu/kde and im looking for a really fast and simple image viewer ... anyone to help me out?
[01:18] <mc__> munsa, dont think so
[01:18] <stuart_> here goes again...)
[01:18] <CarinArr> tabman, what sort of development issues you having?
[01:18] <stuart_> can some one tell me what nautilus command (and arguments) runs by default when gnome starts.  it should be visible in system>preferences>sessions>current_session
[01:18] <munsa> tab man if you had been useing linux for 8 years now you would be on the ubuntu team :)
[01:18] <tabman> anywayz guys, solve my question above please
[01:18] <hypnox> mc__ it's ok, but it's really not even comparable to the market leader here. I use SQL-ledger and that's pretty good, but you need to know a lot to get it running
[01:18] <mc__> munsa, ubuntu is still more powerfull than windows which makes it more complicated
[01:19] <sorush20> my home folder on my paaartition has suddenly disappeared after I did a chown to my user name for /home, now when I log into my account the /home folder is empty..
[01:19] <CarinArr> heh i've used linux for 8 years and i'm on no ubuntu team;)
[01:19] <tabman> CarinArr: different issues, initially there was a problem of permission access, which took 2 days to solve and someone here on this channel solved it eventually, initially people here couldn't figure it out
[01:19] <mc__> hypnox, well i dont no the market leader ,but gnucash fits the needs of my company perfectly
[01:19] <hypnox> tabman try 'export'
[01:19] <Luna-Tick> Hello all. I have just written up a page on how to enable the Ubuntu Popularity Contest https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPopularityContest - it is a big help to the developers and is really easy to do.
[01:19] <hypnox> to look at shell variables
[01:19] <tabman> CarinArr: then there are still problems with setting up EclipseME, it isn't working, I'm following a forum to solve that problem since 4 days
[01:20] <munsa> yea
[01:20] <CarinArr> tabman, normally the biggest problem is that if you've used windows for a long time you expect it to behave in a certain way. and you go about doing things a certain way
[01:20] <tabman> CarinArr: true, i've been using windows since 8 years as I said
[01:20] <CarinArr> i find development in linux a million times easier than widnows, at least when things go wrong there's somewhere to start figuring it out
[01:20] <kkaisare> Dad still can't get used to linux. Sigh.
[01:20] <mp3guy> everytime I change default soundcard in sound prefences it changes back, how can I make permanent?
[01:20] <munsa> Hello, My names Musa and I'm an Ex windows user... I been clean and sobar for 2 weeks now. I have urges... but I am fighting them because Dapper kicks so much ass
[01:21] <CarinArr> lol
[01:21] <tabman> CarinArr. e.g. I setup u EclipseME on windows and its working fine and I did the same for Ubuntu but there are problems
[01:21] <munsa> AWWW
[01:21] <munsa> Join AWWW A. World. Without. Windows
[01:21] <CarinArr> tabman, what's the "ME" suffix? have used eclipse before.. only briefly tho (i hate it);)
[01:21] <munsa> My new 12 step program
[01:21] <munsa> haha
[01:22] <ic56> hypnox: environment variables are not same thing as shell variables.  The former are inherited by commands you issue.  The latter not. export without args reports environment variables, not shell variables.
[01:22] <tabman> CarinArr: development for mobile
[01:22] <CarinArr> vim for the win
[01:22] <CarinArr> tabman, ah.
[01:22] <munsa> I cant figure out how to install Flash 7
[01:23] <mc__> but it is a very good editor
[01:23] <CarinArr> vim has a steep learning curve, i was forced to use it, and now i wouldn't use anything else
[01:23] <jrib> munsa: did you figure out how to enable multiverse?
[01:23] <tabman> CarinArr; e.g. right now I'm trying to install this open-source library and in its instruction it says to edit these PATH, I don't know how and thats why I'm asking here but again problems & problems
[01:23] <CarinArr> but i doubt i would have stuck with it if i'd had a choice
[01:23] <mcphail> tabman: it probably uses some windows-specific extensions. The version of eclipse bundled for PalmOS development does this
[01:23] <munsa> jrib naw
[01:23] <CarinArr> tabman, what paths?
[01:23] <munsa> my PC is kinda bogged down now I am downloading like 300 MB of software
[01:24] <mp3guy> everytime I change default soundcard in sound prefences it changes back, how can I make permanent?
[01:24] <munsa> this Net is slow
[01:24] <munsa> I tried to use the Apt-get but it dosent work
[01:24] <jrib> munsa: ok, post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin and give us a link
[01:24] <jrib> munsa: are you using apt-get now?
[01:24] <tabman> hypnox: I ran export, these variables are not present there
[01:24] <munsa> no
[01:24] <hypnox> CarinArr you mean it has a shallow learning curve. Even after years you still won't know all the functionality.
[01:24] <tanlaan> hey everyone, i tried "make"ing a program named socketmud and it gave me a huge list of errors...could you please tell me what i did wrong or what i need to do to make it work :D the entire thing is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19002
[01:24] <jrib> munsa: ok
[01:25] <munsa> jrib im useing the installer
[01:25] <munsa> the package installer
[01:25] <jrib> munsa: oh, then you'll have to wait for that to finish
[01:25] <munsa> BTW, it says "The package files will be cached locally for installation" Does this mean it will install all of them when they are finished?
[01:25] <axl4711> gnome desktop does not get further than displaying the empty panels and thats it (after a few seconds they disapper too). can someone help me with that?
[01:25] <CarinArr> hypnox, heh true to some extent.. if you take the trouble of learning how to use it it's fast as anything tho
[01:25] <tanlaan> if i need to pastebin any of the files just let me know
[01:26] <munsa> jrib BTW, it says "The package files will be cached locally for installation" Does this mean it will install all of them when they are finished?
[01:26] <hypnox> tanlaan you are missing libraries, specifically zlib
[01:26] <mcphail> tanlaan: you don't have zlib.h installed
[01:26] <tanlaan> hypnox: ok so i need to download zlib
[01:26] <tabman> CarinArr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19004
[01:26] <tanlaan> hypnox: well use synaptic to get it
[01:26] <jrib> munsa: I haven't seen that message, but that is how aptitude and apt-get work for me
[01:26] <longwave> tanlaan: install the "zlib1g-dev" package
[01:26] <mcphail> tanlaan: you will need a -dev package to get the header files
[01:26] <longwave> tanlaan: that will give you zlib.h
[01:26] <munsa> ok
[01:26] <munsa> cool
[01:26] <cwillu> I'm trying to get 3d acceleration working on my ati 9200 (pci) card;  xorg.0.log makes it look like acceleration is working, but glxinfo shows indirect rendering/mesa indirect, and glx gears runs at about one frame per second (on a 2.5ghz machine).  Help!
[01:27] <hypnox> tanlaan yeah, but there could be other problems. A good program should tell you about these things when you do ./configure
[01:27] <tanlaan> thanks ill go try it out
[01:27] <CarinArr> tabman, is that from eclipse? or command line?
[01:27] <Ace2005> is it just me or is google not working?
[01:28] <Ace2005> No wait its working not
[01:28] <CarinArr> tabman, if it's from eclipse are you sure there isn't somewhere to set environment vars inside of it?
[01:28] <cwillu> just yuo :)
[01:28] <Ace2005> working now*
[01:28] <SeanTater> Ace2005: just you] 
[01:28] <Ace2005> yea its working now but for about a minute it was down
[01:28] <munsa> Hey, anyone know where I can get cool pix of Tux?
[01:28] <cwillu> probably not
[01:28] <cwillu> probably just a dns glitch
[01:28] <oskude> munsa: try google image search
[01:28] <tabman> CarinArr: these are instructions for installing an open-source library I downloaded, it has nothing to do with Eclipse
[01:29] <CarinArr> er okay..
[01:29] <SeanTater> Munsa: The wikipedia article for Linux has a good one
[01:29] <tabman> CarinArr: so I need to set these variables up, I don't know how
[01:29] <Ace2005> Where can i get the ubuntu logo? the new ones i saw on digg? i want a big one for a new boot theme
[01:29] <hypnox> errr, not on irc, try the web
[01:30] <jrib> munsa: http://tux.crystalxp.net/ , http://www.heise.de/ct/motive/ are two sites I like
[01:30] <oskude> Ace2005: i remember seeing them in ubuntu wiki
[01:30] <SeanTater> munsa: unfortunately, it's copyright
[01:30] <Ace2005> where can i get larger versions of these? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/Summary_18JULY2006
[01:30] <munsa> ok another question... I really like the commandline but It gets the fingers tired typing .... Cd "desktop" ls cd something else cd something else cd something ect is there an easier way ??
[01:30] <cree> need help to do this ->  To avoid this issue, set the PWDCMD environment variable to an automounter-aware pwd command, e.g., pawd or `amq -w', during the configuration and build phases
[01:31] <CarinArr> tabman, are you planning on using the library to compile stuff?
[01:31] <munsa> I never care about copyrights
[01:31] <cwillu> munsa: well, you can cd more than one dir at a time, use completion (tab), or find a terminal mode file explorer
[01:31] <munsa> im a rebal they mean nothing to me! HA!
[01:31] <oskude> Ace2005: sad that they are not in svg format...
[01:31] <munsa> "terminal mode file explorer?
[01:32] <munsa> oh like look for files in the term?
[01:32] <munsa> cool
[01:32] <tabman> CarinArr: these are java libraries which I'm gonna use in my Project once I get there binary form
[01:32] <Ace2005> oskude: Yup svg would be great, i wouldn't have to copy it in inkscape
[01:32] <longwave> munsa: try the "mc" package, aka "midnight commander" for a terminal-based file browser
[01:32] <munsa> ahhh yea I know MC
[01:33] <mounir> what's mc?
[01:33] <tabman> CarinArr: this is basically the Avetana open-source library which gives access to the bluetooth layer, so I'm writing a desktop bluetooth app and I need to use these libraries in my app, so since the last hour I'm just stuck on how to compile it, this doesn't happens in Windows :) but still people keep on saying linux is easy
[01:34] <CarinArr> well it's probably easy if you already know linux;)
[01:34] <rsk> tabman, you can just use windows if you want to
[01:34] <axl4711> gnome desktop does not get further than displaying the empty panels and thats it (after a few seconds they disapper too). can someone help me with that?
[01:34] <munsa> yaaaaaa !! Flash installed!
[01:35] <CarinArr> tabman, you can try setting the variables in your .bashrc file
[01:35] <munsa> Bravo Musa Bravo! I friggin rock,... actually im pretty stupid... Note to all.. REad the READ ME file
[01:35] <oskude> axl4711: we need more info, what did you do ?
[01:35] <stuart_> axl4711: is it a clean install? what settings have you been messing with?  what apps have you recently installed?
[01:35] <mcphail> munsa: odd - most people make the opposite exclamation when flash pollutes their system...
[01:36] <Lars_G> help :'(
[01:36] <hypnox> hur, flash is good!
[01:36] <Lars_G> How can I install/generate an extra locale in ubuntu?
[01:36] <munsa> mcphail I hate flash, and what really pisses me off is when I go to a Government site and its all in a 150MB flash file
[01:36] <munsa> haha
[01:36] <munsa> stupid
[01:36] <rsk> !locales
[01:36] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[01:36] <Lars_G> hypnox: It might bem but adobe is hell
[01:36] <Lars_G> rsk: thanks
[01:36] <munsa> i have to wait 2 hours to load then stupid page
[01:36] <munsa> to pay my electric bill
[01:36] <munsa> lol
[01:36] <CarinArr> tabman, like: export JDK_HOME=/path/to/java/development/kit
[01:36] <axl4711> it is a nearly clean install... just installed eclipse, mozilla etc and made changes to the panel (added some appleats) and changed the desktop theme
[01:37] <munsa> Oh! Where can you get more Gnome desktop themse????
[01:37] <munsa> Themes?
[01:37] <oskude> !theme
[01:37] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:37] <srikat> hello, can anyone give me a pointer on triple booting Ubuntu w/ XP and Mepis?
[01:37] <tanlaan> say yay it works now
[01:37] <yhonatan> munsa
[01:37] <yhonatan> you can try art.gnome.org too
[01:37] <stuart_> axl4711:  probably the theme then...when you selected it in theme manager did it give you any errors or did it say that it installed cleanly?
[01:37] <tabman> rsk: you don't behead a person if he has a headache, you solve it, if linux distro are still not very much easy to setup, make them more easy :) I'm speaking for the favor of linux distro not against them, we should not be hesitant enough to realize that yes we might be lacking something here
[01:38] <InvisiblePinkUni> what % should be swap space during installation?
[01:38] <oskude> srikat: install ubuntu as last, it should find all the other osses and make a boot option for them
[01:38] <InvisiblePinkUni> !swap
[01:38] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[01:38] <InvisiblePinkUni> !wifeswap
[01:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about wifeswap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:38] <InvisiblePinkUni> :p
[01:38] <Luna-Tick> Just one last advert for the Ubuntu Popularity Contest before I go off to bed. If you are looking for the easiest possible way to help out Ubuntu without any technical skills, enable popcon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPopularityContest - the more "normal" (non-developer) users we can get to use it, the more value there is to the whole system. Goodnight all!
[01:38] <axl4711> thstuart_: the theme installed cleanly... i think it could have something to do with the applets in the panel
[01:38] <srikat> oskude: can I point it to the same swap as that of Mepis?
[01:38] <munsa> Thank you :)
[01:38] <mounir> art.gnome.org is a good site :)
[01:38] <tabman> carinArr: where will I find this .bashrc file ?
[01:38] <oskude> srikat: yes, i do that all the time
[01:38] <CarinArr> tabman, the problem is, if you're from a windows environment you will find windows easy, that doesn't mean ubuntu should be like windows;)
[01:38] <munsa> does anyone know why Daper doesent come with XChat installed by Default???
[01:38] <mcphail> Luna-Tick: is this different from the debian version?
[01:38] <tabman> CarinArr: right
[01:39] <fatlip> how do you change the default program for certain file types to open with?
[01:39] <axl4711> stuart_: the same for failsafe:... there were severaly errors abou the applets in the panel... the second time i didn't get into failesafe either
[01:39] <CarinArr> tabman, in your  home directory, the "." makes it invisible, so don't worry if you don't see it
[01:39] <srikat> oskude: does the same apply to /home as well? Can Mepis and Ubuntu share the same /home?
[01:39] <mc__> srikat, yes
[01:39] <oskude> srikat: i wouldnt do that
[01:39] <Luna-Tick> mcphail - same idea, but it points to popcon.ubuntu.com instead of the Debian server
[01:39] <mc__> srikat, but it's a bad idea
[01:39] <srikat> ok, that means..no
[01:39] <tabman> CarinArr: how do I go to my home directory ?
[01:39] <munsa> because I find this one of the most useful features of Ununtu. You know I find that the Unbuntu users are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more friendly and helpful then any other linux chat I have been too. Ya know the l33t peps who are to good to speak to you
[01:39] <munsa> RTFM!
[01:39] <munsa> baaa
[01:39] <mcphail> Luna-Tick: ok. cool
[01:39] <stuart_> axl14711:  give me a sec to look around
[01:40] <oskude> srikat: as some programs save their settings in /home, and if they dont have the same versions of that prog, you may get trouble
[01:40] <axl4711> stuart: ok
[01:40] <CarinArr> tabman, if you open a terminal window, it automatically puts you in your home directory
[01:40] <mounir> how  upgrade my dist to dapper...
[01:40] <yhonatan> i want to do something that if i will press F7 gaim will start,can I do it in gnome?
[01:40] <Luna-Tick> mounir: are you on Breezy?
[01:40] <oskude> srikat: but of course, technically, its of course doable
[01:40] <mounir> yes
[01:40] <yhonatan> :|
[01:41] <rsk> tabman, oh yes there are lots of things that can be improved. but i think there are lots already done and lots coming. maybe in the next 2/3 ubuntu releases we will have something thats as "easy" as windows
[01:41] <CarinArr> tabman, if you want to set env variables globally you can set them in /etc/environment
[01:41] <yhonatan> some1?:|
[01:41] <mounir> I'm new linux user!
[01:41] <srikat> oskude: if I point the ubuntu installer to an unallocated space, it's going to write /, swap and /home over there?
[01:41] <srikat> or just /swap and /
[01:42] <srikat> swap*
[01:42] <Luna-Tick> Mounir: Is there an icon up in the top left with a red circle?
[01:42] <mounir> yes
[01:42] <oskude> srikat: dunno, never did that automatic installation
[01:42] <Luna-Tick> If you hover over it it should say "Update Manager"
[01:42] <Luna-Tick> or something
[01:42] <yhonatan> how can i do a hotkey to gaim?
[01:42] <srikat> k
[01:42] <yhonatan> or Xchat
[01:42] <tabman> CarinArr: what is the diff, why did not you tell me this earlier I mean
[01:42] <mounir> ok I try it
[01:42] <oskude> srikat: and in dualboot (or more) you cant use any automatic
[01:43] <srikat> got it. since I am gonna use the same swap, I have to go the manual way
[01:43] <Luna-Tick> Mounir: Click that picture and it may ask for a password
[01:43] <yhonatan> :(
[01:43] <CarinArr> tabman, i wasn't entirely sure how you were planning to use it
[01:43] <Luna-Tick> mounir: Then you should get a window open with a list of updates
[01:43] <yhonatan> why no one answer me:(
[01:43] <Luna-Tick> mounir: Are you there?
[01:43] <mounir> in Update Manager  nothing hapen after entering pass
[01:43] <tabman> CarinArr: so what should I write in this environment file ? anywayz it would be permanent I won't have to do it again (not for this session only I mean) ?
[01:44] <Luna-Tick> mounir: What is on your screen?
[01:44] <mounir> yes
[01:44] <fatlip> how do you change the default program for certain file types to open with?
[01:44] <Luna-Tick> Anything?
[01:44] <CarinArr> tabman, when i set environment variables i tend to set them in .bashrc, and they're set when i start a terminal.. but if you want to use them inside another application that wouldnt' necessarily carry across
[01:44] <yhonatan> how can i use hotkeys for any program i want like gaim or xchat?
[01:44] <tabman> CarinArr: I told you the way I'm suppose to use them so tell me according to that, where should I set ?
[01:45] <oskude> yhonatan: system - preferences - shortcut keys ?
[01:45] <yhonatan> no
[01:45] <srikat> oskude: ty...off I go to install Ubuntu
[01:45] <Luna-Tick> mounir: Where are you up to?
[01:45] <yhonatan> but i cant use shortcut keys for gaim or xchat
[01:45] <mounir> pb with password !
[01:45] <oskude> yhonatan: hmm, other i know is xmodmap, but dunno if it can do "shortcuts"
[01:45] <CarinArr> tabman, probably .profile if you want to set them just for yourself, or /etc/environment if you want to set them for all users.. and to answer your question the reason i didn't say from the start is because there are others around that are much better qualified to tell you where things should and shouldn't go;)
[01:46] <yhonatan> ok i check it:)
[01:46] <Luna-Tick> mounir: type in your password and hit okay
[01:46] <fatlip> nevermind i got it lol
[01:46] <CarinArr> tabman, i tend to stick things where they work from me and normally get told off for it;)
[01:46] <mounir> I did it but nothing hapen...
[01:46] <CarinArr> for me even
[01:46] <Luna-Tick> What do you mean? Did it open a screen with nothing or nothing at all?
[01:46] <CarinArr> tabman, and if you set your variables in either of those files, it would load everytime, you wouldn't need to keep re-setting it
[01:46] <tabman> CarinArr :)
[01:47] <mounir> nothing at all ,
[01:47] <Luna-Tick> Try minimising windows and checking that it isn't hiding behind something :).
[01:47] <tabman> CarinArr: how do I set them up in the environment now ?
[01:47] <kintaro0e> hello everyone, what iproute syntax that shall i add on my firewall so that i could use my ftp services?
[01:47] <Luna-Tick> If you can't find it, try again
[01:47] <tabman> CarinArr: as in what should I write there ?
[01:47] <CarinArr> tabman, well if you do "sudo gedit /etc/environment"
[01:47] <mounir> fed up with linux ! too complicated!!!
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> LOL
[01:48] <CarinArr> tabman, adding a line "JDK_HOME=/path/to/jdk" would set the JDK_HOME variable
[01:48] <stuart_> axl4711:  i haven't found anything to help you yet, but i'll keep looking.  you might want to ask again as i guess it's going to involve editing a number of config files
[01:48] <kintaro0e> i mean iptables
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> Oh dear.
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> Looks like we lost another one.
[01:48] <DrBashir2> Linux has never been easier!
[01:49] <Luna-Tick> *sigh*
[01:49] <axl4711> stuart: ok thank u
[01:49] <tabman> CarinArr: at the end of file ?
[01:49] <oskude> kintaro0e: afaik, you dont have to do anything, ftp port is open
[01:49] <kintaro0e> oskude: ah..ok
[01:49] <CarinArr> tabman, yeah end is fine
[01:49] <Luna-Tick> Okay, Goodnight all :)
[01:50] <CarinArr> tabman, the path depends onw here you have your jdk installed, mine's in /usr/share/java/jdk1.5.0_06/
[01:50] <Lynoure> Luna-Tick: Luckily to goal is not necessarily to catch them all like in Pokemon :)
[01:50] <Luna-Tick> LOL
[01:50] <oskude> kintaro0e: they are all open, as theres nothing running on the port(s) (as default), so no need to block them
[01:50] <Drasla> is there any program like top, except showing network usage?
[01:50] <kintaro0e> oskude: thanks
[01:50] <Luna-Tick> Very true - although it would be nice to keep the ones we have try it
[01:50] <oskude> Drasla: iptraf is quite nice
[01:50] <Drasla> I'm having heavy network load here, and I don't know what program's causing it.
[01:50] <munsa> Hey, how big do you guys thing WikiPedia is??
[01:50] <Drasla> oskude:  thanks.
[01:50] <munsa> If like someone wanted to download the whole site? Haha
[01:51] <tabman> CarinArr: I can't copy paths in Ubuntu like the way we can copy from address bar in Windows ?
[01:51] <mcphail> munsa: it is a few gig. You can download a mysql dump
[01:51] <munsa> really?
[01:51] <axl4711> stuart_: are there logs about the startup of the applicatiosn/applets in gnome? For a sec there is an error message dialog poping up, but it is empty...
[01:51] <muep_> tabman: press ctrl+l in nautilus
[01:51] <munsa> Fantastic  how cool
[01:51] <CarinArr> tabman, just mark what you want to copy, then press your middle mouse button in the text editor
[01:51] <oskude> Drasla: but i cant remember if it shows whats using and how much, i just used to check my bandwidth
[01:51] <mcphail> munsa: they don't let you mirror the site directly
[01:51] <CarinArr> tabman, or what muep_ said, i'm assuming that works
[01:51] <Enverex> On my laptop when I'm moving icons around on my desktop it acts like I have control held down (and copies the icons instead of just moving them around my desktop). Any ideas?
[01:52] <longwave> munsa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
[01:52] <oskude> Enverex: keyboard ok ? what happens if you really press control at dragging ?
[01:53] <tabman> CarinArr: what is nautilus ?
[01:53] <Enverex> oskude, Keyboard is fine and ctrl isn't stuck down. Pressing control doesn't change anything
[01:53] <oskude> Enverex: weird...
[01:53] <Enverex> oskude, I'm tempted to file a bug
[01:54] <oskude> Enverex: you need more info for a (good) bug report...
[01:54] <Enverex> oskude, such as?
[01:55] <rizo> hi
[01:55] <oskude> Enverex: in that case, no idea, sorry, hmm...
[01:55] <m_0_r_0_n> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down? I cant connect for updating
[01:56] <rizo> How do I upgrade to Dapper from dapper cd and also will all my applications and setups be removed?
[01:57] <oskude> Enverex: there was a command to check what keys are pressed atm, but forgot the name... (just to see that control is not pressed whole tim)
[01:58] <supernix> anyone know much about modems ?
[01:59] <rizo> How do I upgrade to Dapper from dapper cd and also will all my applications and setups be removed?
[01:59] <Enverex> Ok, another issue is that the CPU stepping program wont let me change the speed of my processor on the gnome panel as it says the module isn't loaded etc. (despite speedstep and everything modules being loaded) but I know it supports it because it worked when that laptop had Gentoo on it
[01:59] <tengil> anyone have any idea why my swedish special characters wont work when i ssh'ing to a box and opening a screen with irssi in it. it works from my previous debian box. both computer im ssh'ing in from has no problem displaying the special characters in console
[02:00] <BlackBsd> if i want to try out ubuntu, and i want to use kde, should i use kubuntu or ubuntu and add the kde package?
[02:00] <ompaul> tengil, just some random guess  the term stttings
[02:00] <rickbauls> blackbsd: use kubuntu
[02:00] <tengil> ompaul: and how should i set that then?
[02:01] <BlackBsd> rickbauls, is it the same as ubuntu but with kde?
[02:01] <threat> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:01] <threat> where is it ?
[02:01] <Jukru> tengil: set term_charset
[02:01] <rickbauls> blaskbsd: well, install ubuntu then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <rizo> How do I upgrade to Dapper from dapper cd and also will all my applications and setups be removed?
[02:02] <rickbauls> blackbsd: yea
[02:02] <threat> and do I need libdvdcss2 to play encrypted DVDs?
[02:02] <rickbauls> threat: let me find this link...
[02:02] <ompaul> tengil, check the settings of the debian ones under the profile compatibitly and the setting terminal ,character encoding
[02:02] <threat> richiefrich, ok
[02:03] <threat> rickbauls, ok even
[02:03] <Tomcat_> !gru
[02:03] <rickbauls> threat: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[02:03] <Tomcat_> !grub
[02:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about gru - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:04] <tengil> ompaul: they have the same under compatibility...
[02:05] <ompaul> tengil, there are two settings mentioned keep looking
[02:05] <tengil> ompaul: umm what do you mean?
[02:06] <ompaul> tengil, profile compatibitly  - and terminal character encoding   are two different things
[02:06] <tabman> I did a mount of a drive on /dev/hda4 I restarted the computer and its unmounted, I want to do a permanent mount ?
[02:06] <munsa> how awsome
[02:06] <longwave> tabman: you need to add an entry to /etc/fstab
[02:06] <ompaul> tengil, this is - edit -> profile compatibitly
[02:06] <munsa> I am downloading a 5000 page wikipedia!
[02:06] <munsa> awsome
[02:07] <tabman> longwave, the entry is present in fstab
[02:07] <tengil> ompaul: yeah but i dont know what i should set term character encoding to
[02:07] <rickbauls> munsa, why?
[02:07] <rickbauls> ... or what?
[02:07] <ompaul> tengil, the same on both
[02:07] <longwave> tabman: then it should mount at boot, unless you have "noauto" in the options
[02:08] <tabman> longwave: there is no noauto in the options
[02:08] <tengil> ompaul: both? in edit profile there is nothing about setting the charset.....
[02:08] <longwave> if you do "sudo mount -a" does it mount it then? because that command is run at boot to mount all filesystems...
[02:10] <threat> rickbauls, thanx
[02:10] <munsa> rickbauls because it is awsome to have that kinda knowledge for free!
[02:10] <rickbauls> welcome
[02:10] <rickbauls> haha
[02:10] <tabman> longwave: it says back : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[02:10] <ompaul> tengil, there are two menus, they should be the same, assuming you are running gnome in the console on both boxes, the first is this:  edit -> profiles select the profile and choose edit and check the compatibility, the second is this: terminal set character encoding
[02:10] <longwave> tabman: did you put the right filesystem type in /etc/fstab?
[02:11] <longwave> tabman: you need the same options in fstab as you pass to "mount" on the command line
[02:11] <tabman> longwave: my fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19006
[02:12] <munsa> Ok I was wondering, I have my Ubuntu Almost set up exactly how I like it, the eye candy, the good packages ect. Is there a way to do a backup or something so I can save the settings and the applications I have installed now?\
[02:12] <rickbauls> munsa, have fun reading all 5000
[02:12] <Enverex> munsa, All your own personal things (including settings) are in /home/yourname
[02:12] <tengil> ompaul: in edit profiles for gnome-terminal its only 2 things under compatibility. backspace key generates and delete key generates. in the settings for gnome terminal its no info on setting character encoding....
[02:12] <longwave> tabman: if it really is ext3, try removing the "utf8" bit, i think that is not needed on ext3 filesystems
[02:13] <elkbuntu> Enverex, i think he's looking for something like Ghost ;)
[02:13] <Enverex> elkbuntu, ah
[02:13] <rod_> hi
[02:13] <longwave> tabman: in fact, remove the umask and gid parts as well so the options just say "defaults"
[02:13] <rickbauls> howdy
[02:13] <ompaul> tengil, ask in #ubuntu-se?
[02:13] <tabman> longwave: you mean /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     ext3    defaults  0       1
[02:13] <longwave> tabman: yes
[02:15] <tabman> longwave: I did mount -a and it has opened up my drive
[02:15] <tabman> longwave: I hope it would do it on restart as well
[02:15] <longwave> tabman: ok, that should be automounted next time you reboot
[02:15] <Enverex> Ok, another issue is that the CPU stepping program wont let me change the speed of my processor on the gnome panel as it says the module isn't loaded etc. (despite speedstep and everything modules being loaded) but I know it supports it because it worked when that laptop had Gentoo on it
[02:15] <tabman> longwave: Thanks
[02:15] <tengil> ompaul: im trying there
[02:15] <tengil> thanks
[02:15] <Da_Putzler> can anyone help me with firestarter
[02:16] <danya> mcphail, you still here ?
[02:16] <danya> mcphail, can you help me with installing VMware workstation ?
[02:17] <Enverex> danya, it's a simple proceedure
[02:17] <danya> I tried following the documentation - but I get an error
[02:17] <Enverex> What error and at what point?
[02:17] <Da_Putzler> has anyone gotten uTorrent to work in Ubuntu with Firestarter ~?????
[02:17] <danya> Enverex, simple is relative: I got this eror :A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[02:18] <danya> Enverex, and there is no previous installation
[02:18] <Enverex> danya, Is there any more to the error, or is that it?
[02:19] <danya> Enverex, that's it. I typed sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[02:19] <danya> like it says in the manual
[02:19] <Enverex> danya, you dont run that
[02:20] <danya> so ? what do I do ?
[02:20] <Enverex> danya, You just install it with apt-get or synaptic package manager and thats it, there is no setup
[02:20] <BusMaster> hi. I installed Ubuntu6.06 from the cd, then I went to my sources.list and #'ed out every line, then I put in the kubuntu CD, did apt-cdrom add. It added the cd. then I did apt-get update and then tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. but it says package not found :( what should I do?
[02:20] <danya> Enverex ? How ?
[02:20] <Enverex> danya, How to what?
[02:21] <BusMaster> nor is kubuntu-desktop found in the Packages file in the dists folder of the CD
[02:21] <danya> Enverex, installing the VmWare workstation with synaptic
[02:21] <BusMaster> i don't want to get kubuntu-desktop from the internet when I have the CD lying in my cdrom drive
[02:21] <danya> Enverex, I was following this: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_install_linux.html
[02:22] <Enverex> danya, That's how to do it from source and stuff like that, you don't do that, you've probably made a bit of a mess now, heh
[02:22] <Da_Putzler> has anyone gotten uTorrent to work in Ubuntu with Firestarter ~?????
[02:22] <danya> Enverex... that is very comforting
[02:23] <Enverex> danya, I assume you're trying to install player rather than workstation as workstation has to be paid for and player is free
[02:23] <danya> Enverex, there is no package for that... there was some one who told me to do it here...
[02:23] <danya> Enverex, no
[02:23] <danya> Enverex, I am trying to install a 30 day trial so I could at least make something to play ...
[02:24] <danya> Enverex, I am freaking out here... do you know how to do it ?
[02:24] <Enverex> danya, You can make a drive image with qemu and then use it with player
[02:24] <danya> you sure about it ?
[02:24] <hlabs> ok how can i detect my ipod on my ubuntu machine
[02:25] <Enverex> danya, hmm, if yoou want to do it your way, go into the synaptic package manager and make sure vmware isn't installed then
[02:25] <tabman> ./install: line 10: make: command not found ... does anyone understand what it means ?
[02:25] <dmsantam> tabman, make is not installed
[02:25] <rambo3> when system is not reading .bash_profile (only startx there) whats the problem
[02:25] <moox> tabman : you have to install "make"
[02:25] <danya> Enverex, I know it is not installed because I just removed it 10 minutes ago
[02:25] <woodwizzle>  except for using xmms, or cron, are there any alarm clock apps in dapper?
[02:26] <moox> tabman: and probably a lot of other software like gcc, g++
[02:26] <Enverex> danya, hmm, not sure then
[02:26] <danya> Enverex, you made me fill really stupid now...
[02:26] <longwave> tabman: apt-get install build-essential
[02:26] <Asc> When trying to install a new kernel, do I need to make an initrd image?
[02:26] <danya> Enverex, so is it possible to "play" qemu created machines ?
[02:26] <dmsantam> Asc, no, you don't _need_ to
[02:27] <[Ex0r] > danya- don't you hate it when that happens ?
[02:27] <dmsantam> Asc, so long as you include essential drivers in the kernel, not as modules
[02:27] <Asc> brb
[02:27] <Enverex> danya, Yeah, there is a guide somewhere on the net, it basically lets you use VMWAre for freee, heh
[02:27] <dmsantam> Asc, like ext3 (assuming you use that for filesystem)
[02:27] <tabman> moox: I did install gcc then I installed AutoConfig, Automake, Libtool, what else is required ?
[02:27] <dmsantam> tabman, install build-essential
[02:27] <moox> tabman : try build-essential
[02:27] <Asc> dmsant: what are 'essential files'?
[02:28] <[Ex0r] > anyone know if there is a way to check what kind of memory is in the system through ubuntu ?
[02:28] <tabman> mooz: apt-get instal build-essential ?
[02:28] <danya> [Ex0r] , things like bad documentation made by closed source companies can make my hair gray !!!
[02:28] <jrib> rambo3: what do you mean by "only startx there" ?
[02:28] <moox> open question : Do you think game developers will support ubuntu / linux in the future ?
[02:28] <moox> tabman: yes or through synaptic
[02:29] <Asc> Eh, anyway.  I included fs types and HD drivers in the kernel.  When I try to boot it, it says gets through the 'uncompressing the kernel line' then gives...
[02:29] <Asc> Kernel Panic: Not syncing:VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[02:29] <mwtb> Anyone know why a "mount -t cifs" would return "mount error 20=Not a directory" when the mount point is definitely a directory?
[02:30] <void^> [Ex0r] : dmidecode
[02:30] <Asc> *-says
[02:30] <[Ex0r] > void^- ?
[02:30] <Enverex> danya : http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/16/1940214&from=rss
[02:31] <[Ex0r] > ah, doesn't tell me enough
[02:31] <[Ex0r] > trying to get the speed of my ddr memory. Don't want to take apart my pc to find out
[02:31] <void^> [Ex0r] : don't think there's a way to tell without looking at it
[02:32] <[Ex0r] > darnit all
[02:33] <Winball> Hi. I have to reconnect the ethernet-connection every time I start ubuntu. Why ain't I connected to internet automaticly ?
[02:33] <dmsantam> Asc, sounds like /etc/fstab needs to be fixed to mount the correct partition as root fs
[02:34] <longwave> dmsantam: it doesn't work that way, as /etc is stored on the partition itself!
[02:34] <longwave> instead you need to pass the right root= line to the kernel
[02:35] <imme> Could someone tell me what the terminal command was for reconfiguring your X11 screen settings?
[02:35] <dmsantam> longwave, yeah, quite right. oops :)
[02:35] <Chest> guys, can the memory test that is on the ubuntu desktop cd fry your computer?
[02:35] <imme> xorg-xserver or something like that... ?
[02:35] <dmsantam> menu.lst might need to be fixed :)
[02:35] <Asc> So, the problem is probably with the *lst
[02:35] <dmsantam> Asc, yep
[02:36] <longwave> Chest: no, unless your hardware is really broken to begin with
[02:36] <dmsantam> imme, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <dmsantam> imme, i think :)
[02:36] <dmsantam> imme, see if it works :)
[02:36] <Asc> hm
[02:37] <imme> ah dpkg-reconfigureIt sure did, thanks dmsantam.
[02:37] <Asc> Well, this is what I have.....
[02:37] <Asc> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-7-386
[02:37] <Asc> root            (hd0,0)
[02:37] <Asc> kernel          /boot/bzImage-2.6.17-7-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[02:37] <Asc> boot
[02:37] <srikat> hello. I just installed Ubuntu...however there's no internet. How do I fix it?
[02:37] <dmsantam> imme, you're welcome :)
[02:37] <longwave> Asc: is /dev/hda1 your root partition?
[02:37] <BusMaster> do I have to install kubuntu-desktop off the net despite having a kubuntu CD?
[02:37] <Asc> longwave: yes
[02:37] <tabman> what is the shortcut key for accessing the Applications Menu ?
[02:37] <longwave> Asc: in that case it sounds like you missed compiling in a needed module for mounting the root, maybe
[02:38] <srikat> what's the root password for a fresh ubuntu install?
[02:38] <Asc> Is there a nice list somewhere of such modules? :p
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> there isn't any
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> srikat: use sudo
[02:39] <longwave> Asc: well, it depends on what hardware you have :)
[02:39] <srikat> ok, shall try.
[02:39] <longwave> and what filesystem you are using and so on
[02:39] <srikat> fyrestrtr, any idea about lack of internet in ubuntu fresh install?
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> wired or wifi?
[02:39] <srikat> wired...internet settings inbuilt in router
[02:39] <Chest> longwave: do you know the program name?  is it Memtest86?
[02:40] <fyrestrtr> srikat: have you tried the gnome-network-settings manager? system > administration > networking
[02:40] <longwave> Chest: yes i think so
[02:40] <Snake007uk> hey guys
[02:40] <Snake007uk> is there a gui manager for SSh-add?
[02:40] <srikat> ok, shall try that now
[02:40] <srikat> bbl
[02:42] <SuperMiguel> hello
[02:42] <SuperMiguel> !iso
[02:42] <longwave> Snake007uk: try the ssh-askpass package
[02:42] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:43] <Snake007uk> longwave: thanks will try that
[02:43] <aimaz> anyone have any experience of squashfs?
[02:43] <Firebird8> is the repository not working or somethin?
[02:43] <Asc> Well, I'm short on ideas.  The kernel has necessary file systems, HD drivers....
[02:44] <Seveas> Firebird8, which repository?
[02:44] <Firebird8> us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <void^> Asc: ide/sata controller driver compiled in?
[02:46] <Firebird8> Seveas, i can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <Asc> looking
[02:46] <Seveas> Firebird8, thanks for reporting -- I'll notify mirror admins
[02:46] <anonymeeee> I've set up my cups printer for sharing, what url do I use in my windowz laptop so it can access the print server?
[02:46] <Seveas> Firebird8, I can connect to it though, it's just very slow
[02:47] <woodwizzle> Is there a way to sync up tomboy on my laptop and desktop
[02:47] <woodwizzle> preferably automatically when they are on the same network?
[02:48] <ompaul> Firebird8, change us. to ie. it is rather fast from anywhere - and then you can revert later
[02:49] <Asc> IDE is... sata is apparently supported through SCSI, which is also included
[02:49] <ompaul> firebird  for IE Link 1: Current bandwidth utilisation 300.40 Mbit/s (out of 2Gb)
[02:49] <ompaul> Firebird8,  Link 2: Current bandwidth utilisation 0.00 Mbit/s (out of 2Gb) again the same place
[02:50] <Seveas> ompaul, looks like one of the 2 cluster machines is problematic
[02:50] <SuperMiguel> what is the name of the language karnel
[02:50] <Seveas> I poked the admin
[02:50] <SuperMiguel> something like that
[02:50] <SuperMiguel> how is it?
[02:50] <ompaul> Seveas, ahh
[02:50] <SuperMiguel> karnel?
[02:51] <Seveas> though it is early morning there, so he's not responding 
[02:51] <Asc> If it's any help, I tried adding the old kernel's initrd to the grub lst, and it failed when it couldn't find /lib/modules/[new kernel]  instead of with a kernel panic
[02:52] <void^> Asc: well, you can use that initrd to take a good look at the kernel's bootlog
[02:52] <ompaul> SuperMiguel, please put your whole question on one line, this is not IM so your doing it front of hundreds of people, it makes it easier to follow, as for your question, "language kernel" no idea what it is you are talking about
[02:52] <Asc> void^: how?
[02:53] <void^> Asc: it should have dmesg, or shift+pgup
[02:53] <tyce> Help, open office does not start in ENGLISH !
[02:53] <srikat> I was talking w/ someone reg. lack of internet on fresh ubuntu install. He advised me to check the network settings. But to access that I need the root password
[02:53] <srikat> how do I get that?
[02:53] <snowblink> !sudo > srikat
[02:54] <srikat> I typed that and it asked me for root password
[02:54] <NthDegree> srikat, there is no root password you use your password
[02:54] <NthDegree> you put YOUR password
[02:54] <NthDegree> not the root password
[02:54] <srikat> did that and it said it's not correct
[02:54] <ompaul> srikat, the you did typo
[02:55] <ompaul> !rootsudo > srikat
[02:55] <NthDegree> sudo is not su
[02:55] <NthDegree> !rootsudo
[02:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <micktm> Hi! someone know a good html editor wysiwyg?
[02:55] <srikat> oh sorry...I typed 'su' and not 'sudo'
[02:55] <NthDegree> micktm, try nvu
[02:55] <micktm> ok
[02:55] <thoreauputic> micktm:  nvu is not bad
[02:55] <ompaul> micktm, nvu gets a pat on the back from some pros I know
[02:56] <ompaul> (their managers love it ;-))
[03:03] <frogzoo> which framebuffer drivers support 1280x800, & do they support suspend? I have a radeon card
[03:04] <miguel_> hello
[03:05] <move> hello
[03:05] <miguel_> IM BORED li
[03:05] <move> ME TOO
[03:05] <move> I"M GOING BACK TO BED
[03:05] <move> NIGHT
[03:05] <Ace2005> I have a strange problem i can't get to google, other sites like deviant art are fine
[03:06] <schwuk> Is anyone using ath_pci with kernel 2.6.15-26?
[03:06] <frogzoo> Ace2005: what's traceroute say?
[03:07] <gypsymauro> hello
[03:08] <gypsymauro> I can't install libcairo2-dev on dapper someone has the same problem?
[03:09] <Ace2005> frogzoo: How do i do a traceroute?
[03:10] <Asc> Ace2005: people have been having that problem all day.  Try 64.233.167.99
[03:10] <jonah1980> hi guys - i'm just clearing off files from an old system onto my new then i wanted to reformat the old computer and give it to my grandad with a fresh ubuntu on there. he won't get broadband though, how easy is it for me to set him up a nice simple dialup that will just connect him whenever he clicks on something that needs internet and disconnect him after he closes it? etc
[03:10] <Ace2005> Asc: Oh good i thought my ISP was screwing with me again for my usage
[03:10] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. With these new Intel 2 Core Duo chips coming out, how long do you all think it'll take for the Linux kernel and it's applications to take advantage of the new processors strengths? I'm getting ready to build a new box, and although I've only used Ubuntu for a month, I've used Linux for a few years ..
[03:10] <Ace2005> Well not so good if you want to google something
[03:10] <frogzoo> Ace2005: sudo apt-get install traceroute ; traceroute www.google.com
[03:11] <move> NineTeen67Comet: the new "strengths" are really a load of crap, when full support does come out it'll only be 1% better at best
[03:11] <george_looney> I have a question regarding SPAM filtering?
[03:11] <longwave> NineTeen67Comet: linux will already run on core 2 duo, there is nothing "new" about them really that is unsupported
[03:12] <frogzoo> jonah1980: can't speak for it, but sounds like you need diald
[03:12] <Bonez56> Hi can anyone please help me with my problem with FreeNX? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19009
[03:12] <move> jonah1980: it's easy
[03:12] <george_looney> which is better - Spamassassin or Bogofilter for System-wide spam filtering?
[03:12] <NineTeen67Comet> move: aha .. N'kay .. I'm SO not an AMD fan .. I'll go ahead and work on building then .. thank you much ..
[03:12] <move> NineTeen67Comet: yep.
[03:12] <move> NineTeen67Comet: give amd a chance, they have been making faster processors for 6 years now :P
[03:13] <NineTeen67Comet> move: lol .. 4 AMD chips and 4 dead boards .. 7 Intel chips (two I built in 1997) and all doing great ..
[03:13] <Bonez56> Hi can anyone please help me with my problem with FreeNX? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19009
[03:14] <Ace2005> frogzoo: thanks, it looks like its google and not me
[03:14] <move> NineTeen67Comet: 4 dead boards? stop buying crap motherboards to put your precious AMD chips in.
[03:14] <NineTeen67Comet> Well, the chips died the boards were fine .. (asus boards) ..
[03:15] <move> strange. good thing amd has a warranty on all it's chips!
[03:15] <move> at least, ones that weren't improperly maintained i.e. not cooled correctly
[03:15] <NineTeen67Comet> no biggie anyhow though . I build boxes for people all the time . bout half go amd ..
[03:15] <GTX> Hello, I have been using dodgy DNS servers on my webserver. I have just updated them but some sites are still not working like its cached or something? how do I flush the dns
[03:16] <frogzoo> google went amd, btw for the flops/watt
[03:16] <[Ex0r] > alright now it's time my computer goes down for fixing
[03:17] <frogzoo> GTX: if you mean the dns ttl (time to live setting) you can
[03:17] <Bonez56> Hi can anyone please help me with my problem with FreeNX? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19009
[03:17] <jonah1980> easy enough for my grandad to just point and click and hooray!?
[03:17] <frogzoo> GTX: if you mean the dns ttl (time to live setting) you can't change it - once the address is released, it can only timeout
[03:17] <mcphail> GTX: I have never found ubuntu caching dns. All of my problems have been from my router. Try resetting that.
[03:17] <srikat> hello, I got internet!
[03:17] <dmsantam> srikat++
[03:17] <frogzoo> srikat: we believe you
[03:17] <srikat> all I did was 'sudo'
[03:18] <GTX> frogzoo, Basiclay. I have been using my hosts dns servers for a while, and recently there dns has mucked up and the websites thought localhost was some usa server. Now I have updated the dns servers on the web-server but lots of sites are still seeing it as that IP i think.
[03:18] <jonah1980> i'm gonna get the system setup with my ethernet broady connection first and then i can get all teh packages he might need and all the ubuntu updates etc and then pass it over to him on dialup
[03:18] <Asc> GTX: people have been having DNS problems all day, I suspect it's a larger problem
[03:18] <ftpguest> hi
[03:18] <Asc> GTX: unless they still work, in which case it's probably unrelated
[03:18] <srikat> wonder why xchat doesn't come in-built w/ ubuntu
[03:18] <Asc> g'day ftpguest
[03:18] <[Ex0r] > GTX- That has to do with the ISP's cache. Usually it takes a couple of days for them to clear.
[03:19] <SuperMigue1> : xfce is better than gnome?
[03:19] <GTX> no.. I have updated them to my own name servers and now I can do "host localhost" and it all comes out fine, but httpd is still seeing them as other ips
[03:19] <longwave> GTX: restart httpd?
[03:19] <GTX> longwave, I have many times/.
[03:19] <george_looney> how do I find out which programs installed on the system belong to "Universe"?
[03:19] <Asc> SuperM: it's a matter of opinion
[03:19] <jonah1980> srikat: it came bundled with for me, it even connects to the ubuntu chat when you open it for you, preset
[03:20] <Skaag> any ideas how to tell Rithmbox which audio device to use?
[03:20] <ftpguest> I have a (hopefully) small problem: I changed my splash screen in my Ubuntu Dapper and then clicked to log out so I could see the new splash screen in action. That worked fine so far but seconds after logging in I get automatically logged out again! I rebooted already but have still this problem. I used now a different user account which obviously does not have that problem. How can I get rid of this?
[03:20] <jonah1980> move, what should i use and is it easy enough for my grandad to just point and click and hooray!?
[03:20] <Skaag> I mean Rythmbox
[03:20] <[Ex0r] > srikat- xchat does come bundled with ubuntu. It's called xchat-gnome or something
[03:21] <GTX> [Ex0r] , Is there anything I can do to update the dns cached on httpd/php or whatever its stored on
[03:21] <move> the default install is really as basic as you get
[03:21] <thoreauputic> [Ex0r] : not in 6.06 - only gaim afaik
[03:21] <[Ex0r] > thoreauputic- Mine came with i
[03:21] <[Ex0r] > it*
[03:21] <slashdevnull> Hi, all.
[03:21] <jonah1980> hey does anyone know where the project page for listen media player is - automatix calls it a new media player for gnome but google didn't show anything up, wondering if it's anyway near to amarok yet?
[03:21] <frogzoo> GTX: any chance it's cached in the dns server?
[03:21] <move> jonah1980: I'd just use a basic install and then configure it to disconnect on firefox close
[03:21] <thoreauputic> [Ex0r] : did you update from Breezy though?
[03:21] <[Ex0r] > thoreauputic- nope. Straight from 6.06
[03:22] <[Ex0r] > dapper fresh*
[03:22] <GTX> frogzoo, no as I said I have put new ones in, and now "host localhost" actuly resolves to 127.0.0.1. But apache/php still dont see it, therefore some websites dont work.
[03:22] <thoreauputic> [Ex0r] : hmm - OK - I thought a straight 6.06 had no xchat - guess I was wrong
[03:22] <Dimensions> hi when i start my ubuntu it give an error that failed to start X server ... how do i fix it ?
[03:22] <jonah1980> move: should i install it with my modem plugged into phone socket etc so it thinks that's primary internet connection first or should i just install with ethernet in and let it update first? just wondered if ethernet would confuse it at all, never used dialup on ubuntu
[03:22] <thoreauputic> [Ex0r] : mind you xchat-gnome is a castrated version of xchat anyway
[03:22] <move> ftpguest: i'd look for your gdm config and change that user's back to default
[03:22] <[Ex0r] > thoreauputic- It's a weird version of xchat,w hich is why I didn't use it long :)
[03:23] <mcphail> GTX: have you tried rebooting whatever router you are using?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> indeed
[03:23] <GTX> mcphail, This is a web-server hosted in london...
[03:23] <[Ex0r] > now i'm running mIRC through wine.
[03:23] <GTX> In a datacentre ;p
[03:23] <thoreauputic> [Ex0r] : blech :(
[03:23] <mcphail> GTX: oh dear
[03:23] <move> jonah1980: install it with LAN first and then disable the LAN after you do all the updates and configure dial up as the default
[03:23] <CarinArr> why would you want to run mirc in wine
[03:23] <slashdevnull> Dimensions: Did you try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[03:23] <jonah1980> move, thanks a lot for your help, i'll give it a go, you're a star, thanks
[03:24] <move> jonah1980: no problemo, come back if you need more help
[03:24] <mcphail> GTX: i suspect the caching will be at some intermediate point. You might have to just wait it out
[03:24] <GTX> mcphail, Thought that would be the case, Is this the DNS cache server side or nameserver side?
[03:24] <slashdevnull> Dimensions: Also, what video card does your PC have? You may want drivers that do not ship by default with Ubuntu.
[03:24] <frogzoo> GTX: the default /etc/nsswitch.conf looks at files before dns, so that's probly where apache's localhost match is coming from
[03:25] <[Ex0r] > mcphail- More than likely it is. The middle man hasn't updated their DNS yet.
[03:25] <jonah1980> move, don't suppose you know what "listen media player" is by any chance do you?
[03:25] <GTX> frogzoo, Theres just weird things in that file like "hosts:          files dns"
[03:25] <frogzoo> noone knows how to setup a 1280x800 framebuffer? I'm missing inches :(
[03:25] <[Ex0r] > alright, computer going offline. Major upgrades going into affect, including another 512 of rm
[03:25] <[Ex0r] > ram*
[03:26] <DrBashir2> ... I wish I could work on my ubuntu box from here :|
[03:26] <slashdevnull> Does anyone in here know how to make Nautilus honor umask settings? There's a bug registered in Gnome for this, but no fix that I'm aware of as of yet.
[03:26] <iGadget> hi
[03:26] <move> jonah1980: it sounds like an audio playing application but no, I don't know what it means out of context
[03:26] <frogzoo> GTX: man nsswitch.conf & be enlightened
[03:26] <srikat> how do I connect to another IRC server in x-chat?
[03:26] <srikat> in mIRC, I used to /server -m irc.whatever.net
[03:26] <move> type /server irc.whatever.com
[03:26] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : you're just showing off :p
[03:26] <[Ex0r] > srikat- XChat->New Server Tab
[03:26] <move> oh, two at once
[03:26] <move> tricky
[03:27] <GTX> frogzoo, Yeah I've looked at it, but I dont understand how that would help ;x
[03:27] <pepsi> is there a site where i can paste pictures?
[03:27] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- nah, i'm really leaving :)
[03:27] <mcphail> slashdevnull: afraid not: hadn't realised it was a problem
[03:27] <[Ex0r] > photobucket.com
[03:27] <pepsi> [Ex0r] , thanks
[03:27] <move> imageshack.com tooo
[03:27] <frogzoo> GTX: my point is, apache's resolving localhost from /etc/hosts - it's not looking at dns at all
[03:27] <iGadget> has anyone experienced when playing real video streams from a website, the window just turns grey?
[03:27] <pepsi> [Ex0r] , fancy seeing you here
[03:27] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : sure sure
[03:27] <[Ex0r] > lol
[03:27] <slashdevnull> mcphail: Yeah, it's a problem. Especially in corporate environments.
[03:27] <srikat> [Ex0r] : I don't see 'xchat' menu
[03:28] <move> ...
[03:28] <move> I think he ment... file?
[03:28] <GTX> frogzoo, It was, I did "host localhost" and it came back with some weird ip, not 127.0.0.1 :p
[03:28] <[Ex0r] > srikat- at the verytop, it's the first menu option. Might be File
[03:28] <[Ex0r] > haven't used xchat for a bit
[03:28] <mcphail> slashdevnull: does pam-umask sort it?
[03:28] <slashdevnull> No, I don't believe so. The bug is this one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327249
[03:28] <frogzoo> GTX: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:28] <srikat> [Ex0r] : am not sure am using the right version.
[03:29] <srikat> Is this correct? --> XChat-GNOME 0.11
[03:29] <Ksilebo> Hello, been having some strange load issues with pdflush totally killing my network share.
[03:29] <srikat> I installed it through Add/Remove programs
[03:29] <GTX> frogzoo, Yes I have changed the name servers to new ones, now its correctly resolving. But apache and php is still not updated like its cached.
[03:29] <[Ex0r] > ah, you're using xchat-gnome. Not sure about that one.
[03:29] <Ksilebo> Its a RAID5 array (software) on an Adaptec SCSI card.
[03:29] <obi-1> hello
[03:29] <Jukru> srikat: try /newserver irc.server.net
[03:29] <srikat> ok
[03:29] <slashdevnull> mcphail: I think that pam-umask doesn't work, because the devs hard-coded values into Naulilus
[03:30] <obi-1> can you guys tell me what is the dev for the PS/2 mouse port
[03:30] <SuperMigue1> 189
[03:30] <obi-1> for the serial port is /dev/ttyS0
[03:30] <srikat> Jukru: that worked. But how do I make this gnone xchat as the other one? (other one = in which ctrl+T for a new network tab)
[03:30] <mcphail> slashdevnull: it looks like binning nautilus will be the only option for the time being
[03:30] <srikat> that's the kind of xchat that came w/ Mepis
[03:31] <frogzoo> !mouse
[03:31] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:31] <obi-1> what is the protocolo? .. IMPS/2?
[03:31] <[Ex0r] > bbl all!
[03:31] <Jukru> srikat: read some manuals...sorry...I don't use xchat
[03:31] <srikat> alright, ty
[03:32] <srikat> Jukru: if you don't mind me asking, what do you use to connect to IRC?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> srikat: just install xchat and get rid of xchat-gnome - it's too dumbed down
[03:33] <slashdevnull> mcphail: binning? Do you mean recompiling?
[03:33] <slashdevnull> Just wanna make sure we're using the same terminology. :)
[03:33] <mcphail> slashdevnull: no - using something else until they get their fingers out and sort this. It seems like a very basic error
[03:33] <slashdevnull> Ah, trash binning. :)
[03:33] <kabobuntu> any ideas why no-ip won't update my IP? do i need to open any firewall ports?
[03:34] <mcphail> slashdevnull: (although i suppose recompiling nautilus and hardcoding your own permissions might work)
[03:34] <srikat> thoreauputic: In Add/Remove Applications, when I search for 'xchat' or 'x-chat' only the gnome version is visible
[03:34] <cwill1> !search sound
[03:34] <ubotu> Found: esd, ripping, alsa
[03:34] <thoreauputic> kabobuntu: you have an account, right ?
[03:34] <slashdevnull> mcphail: Yeah. My understanding was that it was supposed to be fixed before LTS came out. This will be a Long Time Bug now, looks like. ;)
[03:34] <cwill1> !alsa
[03:34] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:34] <thoreauputic> srikat: yes - just type   sudo aptitude install xchat   in a terminal
[03:34] <Bonez56> does anyone know how to fix this error with FreeNX? NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1
[03:35] <thoreauputic> !info xchat
[03:35] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:35] <mcphail> slashdevnull: it is a biggie
[03:35] <thoreauputic> srikat: it's in the universe repository
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know what settings that i should have set-up for optimal aMule usage
[03:35] <slashdevnull> mcphail: Agreed. If LTS is supposed to be a Vist killer, it needs to work in corporate environments. Basc Unix permissions seems like a big deal along those lines. ;)
[03:36] <mcphail> :)
[03:36] <slashdevnull> Er, basic Unix permissions
[03:36] <mcphail> slashdevnull: perhaps you could persuade the ubuntu devs to put it up as a "bounty"?
[03:36] <slashdevnull> I may just recompile for the customers I need to support this for. Such is the beauty of Open Source.
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> its not supposed to be a 'vista killer'.
[03:36] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: yes - use frostwire
[03:36] <slashdevnull> mcphail: Good idea. I don't know what the process is for that, but I'll look around
[03:37] <Asc> Well.  I found the problem.
[03:38] <slashdevnull> fyrestrtr: I recall MS saying something along those lines in an interview, pre-release of LTS.
[03:38] <slashdevnull> Or, maybe I'm mis-remembering.
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> lol you most likely are.
[03:38] <longwave> asc: what was it?
[03:38] <ftpguest> Hi
[03:38] <mcphail> slashdevnull: i remember that interview
[03:38] <Asc> well, in xconfig....
[03:39] <Asc> I'd confused the 'module' and 'kernel' icons
[03:39] <longwave> aha, i see :)
[03:39] <Asc> figured the circle was kernel because it came first....
[03:39] <mcphail> But Vista was delayed even longer than Dapper!
[03:39] <Asc> Vista is not very newsworthy
[03:40] <drbreen_> asc: right
[03:40] <slashdevnull> mcphail: lol
[03:40] <frogzoo> mcphail: was? u mean is, surely?
[03:40] <mcphail> yup
[03:40] <slashdevnull> Vista is just waiting on that Duke Nukem Forever patch, and it'll be ready to roll.
 have FrostWire Installed and LimeWire Pro
[03:40] <slashdevnull> I think that Ubuntu will have WinFS before M$ gets it done.
[03:40] <ftpguest> I tried to change back the splash and so on but I still get automatically logged out a second after logging in. I also tried to log into safe mode so that the starting scripts wont be executed, no chance, I still get logged out in that particular profile. Does anyone have an idea? I didnt do much more than clicking (accidentally) three or four times on the log-out button and since that I cant log in again without being logge
[03:40] <ftpguest> d out a second later
[03:41] <frogzoo> !amule
 they both crsh the system
[03:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:41] <Zambezi> WM-size on Java is 580 MB. Bloatware!
[03:41] <squirrelpimp> hi
[03:41] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: frostwire kills you puter? that's not cool
[03:41] <drbreen_> paddy_eire: why limewire ?
[03:41] <squirrelpimp> is there a way to specify, which one of two installed display adapters will be used by usplash on startup?
 yeah i know and it used to work so well
 well i had paid for pro
[03:42] <frogzoo> squirrelpimp: blacklist the unused driver?
[03:42] <bunta> Hey people :) Got a small problem with firefox.. Everytime I seem to go onto a page which has a video on it (embended I suppose) it crashes
[03:42] <squirrelpimp> i have a crappy onboard-adapter i can't disable in bios
 thought i'd get my moneys worth
[03:42] <intelscat> where do the kernel folders come from in /lib/firmware? are they created when a driver is installed?
 aMule doesnt seem to do much
[03:42] <squirrelpimp> and i already tried just disabling usplash but i won't get the usual kernel-startup on my nvidia pcie card
[03:43] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: I could never find anything worthwhile on amule, frostwire's much more accessible
[03:43] <bunta> how wud I fix this problem? :o
 sits there lookin the business but i do not know what networks this should be connecting to for optimal performance
[03:43] <kabobuntu> sorry i d/c
[03:43] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: very odd if a java app is crashing your box ...
[03:43] <squirrelpimp> frogzoo: i'd expected it to be some kind of grub-switch... i can see grub... but then the screen turns black until i get a blinking cursor without a prompting text waiting for me to enter the cryptsetup-passphrase
 freezes whole system on the splash
[03:43] <slashdevnull> Gotta bounce out of here. Later, all. Thanks for the help and humor.
[03:44] <mcphail> bye
 how would i go about removing programs like LimeWire and FrostWire for Reinstallation
[03:44] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: sudo dpkg --purge limewire
[03:44] <intelscat> anyone know anythng about the firmware tree?
[03:45] <frogzoo> squirrelpimp: blacklist the unused drive
 i need to learn this dpgk stuff
[03:45] <WiseOdd> im about to reinstall ubuntu, but bfore that i would like to scan my disc for virus, since alot of the files come from an infected wingdows install... does anyone know of a free online scanner, which can be used with linux?
[03:45] <squirrelpimp> frogzoo: would it be an usplash-driver? or a kernel one?
[03:45] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: man dpkg, man apt-get, man apt-cache
 dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove limewire which isn't installed.
[03:46] <frogzoo> squirrelpimp: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:46] <Dimensions> hi i have x server startup error .... ?
 it is installed
[03:47] <Dimensions> hi i have x server startup error .... when i boot ubuntu it says failed to start X server ... i typed startx and it says no screens found ? what to do
[03:47] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: sudo dpkg --purge frostwire          not sure what limewire's installed as
[03:47] <squirrelpimp> frogzoo: there is no driver loaded between selecting the kernel in grub and beeing prompted for crypsetup-passphrase which happens during fs-mount
 does it remove everything it should
[03:48] <Anon893> is there a way to install ubuntu directly from the web
[03:48] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: if it's packaged properly, yes
[03:48] <SuperMigue1> how can i find program apt-parche search?
[03:48] <drbreen_> anon893: yes
[03:48] <SuperMigue1> how is that command
[03:48] <drbreen_> supermiguel: apt-cache its called
[03:48] <frogzoo> SuperMigue1: apt-cache search ?     you already have it
 is there any other way to uninstall Limewire
 perhaps its called limewirepro
[03:49] <WiseOdd> Hi all. does any1 know if theres an online virus scanner which works with linux?
[03:49] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: I've never installed it, but if it's a deb, dpkg --purge PKGNAME will remove it
[03:49] <drbreen_> wiseodd: why could anyone want THAT ?
[03:49] <Enverex> Ok, another issue is that the CPU stepping program wont let me change the speed of my processor on the gnome panel as it says the module isn't loaded etc. (despite speedstep and everything modules being loaded) but I know it supports it because it worked when that laptop had Gentoo on it
[03:49] <SuperMigue1> Paddy_EIRE: apt-get uninstall limewire
[03:49] <Anon893> is there a doc on it drbreen
[03:49] <mcphail> WiseOdd: i doubt it
[03:50] <Anon893> i'm running debian but i want to install ubuntu
[03:50] <Anon893> and i cant get it to install from any of the cd's
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> WiseOdd: since most of those use ActiveX, I highly doubt any will be available for linux.
[03:50] <WiseOdd> drbreen: bcause ihve gotten alot of files from an infected wingdows install, and i DONT like virus... :)
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> WiseOdd: install clamav
 patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ apt-get uninstall limewire
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[03:50] <Anon893> how would i install it directly from the web?
[03:50] <WiseOdd> can i get it thru apt?
[03:50] <johnm1019> what is the installation ptah of firefox on ubuntu?
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: sudo apt-get remove --purge limewire
[03:50] <Enverex> WiseOdd, Install Klamav (KDE frontend for clamav)
[03:50] <dmsantam> !clamav
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about clamav - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Paddy_EIRE:  sudo apt-get remove <package>
[03:51] <WiseOdd> enverex: thx m8
[03:51] <mcphail> WiseOdd: your puny windows viruses are powerless against the might of ubuntu
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> !info clamav
[03:51] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 200 kB
[03:51] <WiseOdd> thx all. ill try that and get back 2u :)
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> It still doesnt find limewirepro
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> for any of these uninstall options
[03:52] <dmsantam> ubotu, it might be in universe
[03:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about it might be in universe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: then you didn't install it using apt or synaptic.
[03:52] <dmsantam> ubotu, universe
[03:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> dmsantam: ubotu is a bot.
[03:52] <srikat> text on my screen appears v. small. I tried reducing the resolution to 1024x768, but it won't take effect. How do If fix this?
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[03:52] <dmsantam> fyrestrtr, yeah, im just being silly :)
[03:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> you cant install with any of these with limewire
[03:52] <Zambezi> Anyone skilled on rtorrent? I need help with the portrange.
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> srikat: check the dpi (its in the fonts settings, click on advanced)
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> its dl'ed from there site
[03:53] <Anon893> can anyone tell me or direct me to a file on how to install ubuntu from the web?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> !netinstall
[03:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:53] <k31th> What do you guys call your servers ? boring stuff like "serv1" or more interesting names ?
[03:53] <SuperMigue1> !limewire
[03:53] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:53] <move> k31th: mine is named cuntpuncher.
[03:53] <Masticore> Why cant I listen to mp3's that have  in it ?
[03:53] <k31th> lol move
[03:54] <quiet> ROFL
[03:54] <drbreen_> !frostwire
[03:54] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:54] <mcphail> move: language, please
[03:54] <k31th> lol imagen the email bounce msgs
[03:54] <drbreen_> USE FROSTWIRE ITS BETTER !
 use easy ubuntu for mp3 support
[03:54] <move> mcphail: sorry, but that's the name of my server!
[03:54] <k31th> error relaying from "cuntpuncher"
[03:54] <srikat> fyrestrtr: it's 96 dpi
[03:54] <srikat> fyrestrtr: Increasing that will increase the txt size through out ubuntu?
 i have frostwire but it crashes my comp
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> my servers are named -- phoenix, avalon, hades, goliath, playstation and sandbox.
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> and cerberus
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> forgot about good ol' cerb
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Can i get frostwire through synaptic
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: no
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> where then
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> or, rather, you can.
[03:57] <Bergcube> When I'm not working for customers who already have a set naming scheme I use names of warships.  I am for example fond of blucher.  (Yeah I know it should have been blcher, but you know... )
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: sudo apt-get install frostwire <-- try it, I just installed from the website.
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> i want to beable to remove this again, unlike limewirepro
[03:57] <Enverex> Why aren't either of them in Synaptic :(
[03:57] <quiet> why wouldn't you be able to remove them Paddy_EIRE??
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> she means not able to remove it via synaptic.
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> well i cant remove limewire now as it stands
[03:58] <quiet> yes you can.
[03:58] <k31th> Ok my two new ubuntu servers are being called... "santa" and "jesus" (sticking with my southpark theme)
[03:58] <quiet> use dpkg
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> tried a whole list of uninstall, remove, purge commands
[03:58] <mcihad> hi
[03:58] <AlbanaHelge> hi! i need help with a terratec cinergy 200 usb! i have a brilliant picture but no souns
[03:58] <mcihad> what is postgresql default password ?
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> none
[03:59] <Anon893> ubuntu > debian
[03:59] <OneSeventeen> I don't think there is a default password for postgresql
[03:59] <move> ubuntu = debian?
[03:59] <mcihad> ubuntu
[03:59] <quiet> ! = debian
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about = debian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <Enverex> hmm, I think I'm going to go make a Frostwire package, let me know if anyones interested
[03:59] <quiet> lol  whoops.
[03:59] <|mp|> how do you run an app as a different user in Gnome (or from cmd line)?
[03:59] <quiet> gksudo
 dpkg, apt, all of these dont find or remove limewirepro
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> move: no, ubuntu is built on top of debian, but its not the same thing.
[04:00] <move> I know
[04:00] <fuoco> google earth exists in some repository ?
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> |mp|: sudo
[04:00] <Enverex> Paddy_EIRE, That's because it's not in the repository in the first place to add or remove
[04:00] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, then just go relete the directory if it's obviously not a registered package.
[04:00] <move> but it's really kind of silly to compare oranges with oranges in a bowl.
[04:00] <move> they're still just... oranges
[04:00] <gordo> By default, PostgresSQL installs without a default password for the postgres user account.
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> move: brown oranges :)
[04:00] <move> I guess that's the wrong metaphor
[04:00] <Enverex> oh heh, a package already exists
[04:00] <move> and I should stop talking
 i only need to delete the directory
[04:00] <OneSeventeen> mcihad: I usually just run: $sudo su postgres  (which switches me to the postgres user, who can then run postgresql commands)
[04:00] <|mp|> fyrestrtr - sudo username appname ??
[04:00] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, should be fine.
[04:01] <Bergcube> move~  Isn't it better to compare melons?
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> |mp|: man sudo
 will i do whereis limewirepro or something
[04:01] <AlbanaHelge> does someone use a terratec cinergy 200 usb tv card?
[04:01] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, updatedb && locate limewire
[04:01] <mcihad> thanks
[04:01] <treb0r> can anyone tell me if it is possible to search mounted samba shares in ubuntu. can't work it out...
[04:01] <mcihad> thanks <OneSeventeen>
[04:01] <ricardo> hi everybody...
[04:01] <OneSeventeen> Is Control+Shift+E reserved for something in Ubuntu?  I can't seem to use it to edit CSS using the Web Developer extension for firefox
[04:01] <Enverex> Paddy_EIRE, Unless it's in /opt then it's going to be scattered everywhere
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: don't see why not, what's the problem?
[04:01] <hamra> how would I upgrademy whole system to latest ubuntu from version 5.04?
 updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate databa se!
[04:02] <ricardo> does anybody uses MATLAB under WINE?
[04:02] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, well duh...  sudo su -
[04:02] <OneSeventeen> (and no, I dont' see anything in metacity using ctrl+shift+e)
[04:02] <quiet> then updatedb
[04:02] <treb0r> fyrestrtr: just can't see an option to select the share i wish to search
[04:02] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: using what?
 sry i am a twat
[04:02] <treb0r> fyrestrtr: the 'search for files' under the 'places' menu...
[04:03] <iGadget> has anyone experienced when playing real video streams from a website, the window just turns grey?
[04:03] <Enverex> Paddy_EIRE, If you don't have permission to do something, just put sudo infront of the command, i.e. "sudo nano /etc/blah.txt
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: Search > Preferences > Indexing
 how do i locate the man for that instruction u just gave me
[04:03] <treb0r> fyrestrtr: thanks dude...
[04:03] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, which instruction
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: its just easier to use fine.
[04:03] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, man locate ?
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> s/fine/find
 i already know this mate, a little slow today : )
[04:04] <treb0r> fyrestrtr: yes, I know, but this is for a non geek client...
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: install beagle
[04:04] <treb0r> fyrestrtr: beagle?
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: then add the deskbar to the panel.
[04:04] <nvictor> hi all
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: yeah, 'spotlight' for linux :)
[04:05] <AlbanaHelge> please say yes if someone can read this. i am not sure... :)
 whats this part updatedb
[04:05] <pepsi> no
[04:05] <quiet> no.
[04:05] <fyrestrtr> AlbanaHelge: no
[04:05] <fyrestrtr> roflmao
[04:05] <AlbanaHelge> no+no=yeS? :)
[04:05] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, updatedb updates the locate database.
[04:05] <nvictor> I can't play any audio file anymore since I've booted this morning
[04:05] <nvictor> totem is not launching
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> AlbanaHelge: sorry didnt see a thing
[04:05] <Anon893> does anyone know how to install ubuntu directly from the web?
 now that i have located limewire on the cli how do i remove it from here
[04:05] <nvictor> xmms is telling me that something is blocking the sound device, what's going on?
[04:06] <quiet> ubuntu doesn't have a net0inst, anon
[04:06] <quiet> Anon893,
[04:06] <quiet> ^
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: while you are at it, and if this person is a total newbie, install the sled desktop thing -- forgot the exact package name.
[04:06] <AlbanaHelge> you didn't see anything but answer?
[04:06] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE, sudo rm -rf /dir/of/limewire
[04:06] <Anon893> i cant get any of the installation cd's to work
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa > nvictor
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> whats - rf
[04:06] <quiet> recursive, force.
[04:06] <quiet> will delete he dir.
[04:06] <Anon893> is there any way to get it installed without them?
 nice one mate
[04:06] <thenuke> should ubuntu autoprobe new network interface in case an old one was broken and replaced by different one?
[04:07] <Anon893> i have a second laptop running dapper
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon893: what is the prob with the cd's
[04:07] <nvictor> thx Jack_Sparrow
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:07] <Enverex> The CPU stepping program (gnome pannel app) wont let me change the speed of my processor on the gnome panel as it says the module isn't loaded etc. (despite speedstep and everything modules being loaded) but I know it supports it because it worked when that laptop had Gentoo on it. Does anyone have any ideas? I've been looking for help with this for days
[04:07] <Enverex> thenuke, It's autodetected on start
[04:07] <Anon893> the breezy ones never finish installing the base anld the dapper one installs fine but when it boots nothing happesn Jack_Sparrow
[04:07] <thenuke> Enverex: ok. I guess then that this new one was broken also :)
[04:08] <Enverex> thenuke, Does it show up with lspci?
[04:08] <Bonez56> Cigarettes?
[04:08] <Bonez56> Anyone for a Cigarette?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon893: so the live runs ok (Daper)
[04:08] <quiet> Anon893, can you install *any* linux to it?
[04:08] <Anon893> the live breezy is ok
[04:08] <thenuke> Enverex: I dont remember if I did try that
[04:08] <Anon893> i dont have the live dapper
[04:08] <Anon893> just the desktop
[04:08] <quiet> Anon893, i'm wondering the hard drive isn't fscked.
[04:08] <Anon893> i installed it last week and it worked fine
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon893: What type of hard drive and is there another OS on the box and is it a PC or Mac
[04:08] <Anon893> but i reinstalled to put more swap
[04:09] <Anon893> no other os
[04:09] <Anon893> pc
[04:09] <Anon893> dell lattitude d500
[04:09] <quiet> Anon893, did you try to completely wipe the drive and repartition from scratch?
[04:09] <Anon893> is there a way to install it permanently with the breezy live cd?
[04:09] <quiet> no
[04:09] <Anon893> yea quiet
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon893: I would try the default install and leave the swap alone.  Is there a reason you increased it..
[04:09] <Anon893> every time i boot it i try at least 17 times
[04:10] <quiet> why 17?
[04:10] <quiet> fav. # ?
[04:10] <Anon893> the first time it only gave me 500mbs so i upped it to 700 because it would lag like a b*tch
[04:10] <nvictor> Jack_Sparrow: I don't have multimedia system in my preferences :(
[04:10] <WiseOdd> hi again :) now ihve installed clamav, but damned if can find it.. where does it install to?
[04:10] <quiet> Anon893, how fast/much ram?
[04:10] <Anon893> 512
[04:10] <mcphail> WiseOdd: clamscan
[04:10] <quiet> then you're not even touching swap with a default desktop.
[04:11] <Anon893> can i install from the breezy live cd?
[04:11] <quiet> NO
[04:11] <WiseOdd> mcphail: just like that from terminal?
[04:11] <Anon893> so am i stuck with debian?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Anon893: adding swap when you have 512MB RAM won't help performance - 500 MB swap is plenty
[04:12] <Anon893> debian installed fine
[04:12] <SeanTater> WiseOdd: yes
[04:12] <WiseOdd> mcphail: what about update virus def?
[04:12] <quiet> Anon893, you could probably change to the ubuntu repos and dist-upgrade a debian machine... might break shit... but it's worth a try i guess.
 thats also something that doesnt work for me
[04:12] <mcphail> WiseOdd: it will do it automatically
[04:12] <SeanTater> Anon893: Tried burning another cd?
[04:12] <Anon893> yea SeanTater
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> WiseOdd: it doesn't have a gui, its just scripts.
[04:13] <thoreauputic> quiet: it *will* break
[04:13] <WiseOdd> mcphail: it updates auto when running the prg?
[04:13] <Anon893> i have five breezy cd's
[04:13] <Anon893> not one of them works
[04:13] <quiet> thoreauputic, i did it before.
[04:13] <SeanTater> Anon893: why not dapper
[04:13] <quiet> just have to know what you're doing.
[04:13] <quiet> kernel first.
[04:13] <mcphail> WiseOdd: no - a daemon runs in the background (freshclam)
[04:13] <Anon893> i have one dapper i downloaded yesterday
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> WiseOdd: install avscan
[04:13] <SeanTater> Anon893 tried it?
[04:13] <Anon893> it worked installing but when it comes timree to boot it says "ok booting the kernel" and just sits the
[04:14] <thoreauputic> quiet: it worked from debian -> warty - afaik not any other  way without doing a lot of fiddling about
[04:14] <dh321> Anon893: when you say the breezy cd's dont work, do you mean they wont boot?
[04:14] <SeanTater> Anon893: that's just the bootloader
[04:14] <Enverex> Anon893, try with noapic and acpi=off options
[04:14] <quiet> thoreauputic, actually, that's probably about the time i tried it.. lol. don't rmember for sure.
[04:14] <Anon893> no they boot dh321 but while installing the base sytem they get to 87% and quit or when they are installing packages it gets to 98% and quits
[04:14] <thoreauputic> quiet: right  :)
[04:15] <Anon893> Enverex, how do i change acpi to off?
[04:15] <dh321> Anon893: i see
[04:15] <dh321> Anon893: its a boot option
[04:15] <thoreauputic> acpi=off I think
[04:16] <quiet> i think noacpi works too
[04:16] <Anon893> i have a second laptop running ubuntu is there anyway i can install it from that?
[04:16] <Anon893> i have a ethernet cross over cable
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> thoreauputic: that is correct
[04:16] <dh321> Anon893: i think you can either change it in your grub.conf (or menu.lst) file, just add noacpi to the kernel options
[04:16] <SeanTater> maybe this will help
[04:16] <quiet> Anon893, are the laptops identical?
[04:16] <SeanTater> !bootoptions > Anon893
[04:16] <neuro-> Does anyone have any experience with a Linksys WMP54G PCI Wireless card + Ubuntu 6.06 AMD64?
[04:17] <Anon893> one is a d500 and one is a d505 quiet
[04:17] <quiet> Anon893, that means nothing to me.
[04:17] <SeanTater> neuro-: I've had one similar
[04:17] <quiet> hard drive same size?
[04:17] <SeanTater> neuro-: oops -- my fault -- not linksys, broadcom
[04:17] <Anon893> dell lattitude d500 is the one that wont intall and a latitude d505
[04:17] <neuro-> yeah it uses the broadcom chipset SeanTater
[04:17] <radam> hi. does ubuntu use SELinux?
[04:17] <Anon893> pretty much identical except for screen size
[04:18] <SeanTater> neuro-: have you tried wifidocs
[04:18] <quiet> Anon893, is the hard drive the same size in each?
[04:18] <Anon893> yea
[04:18] <Anon893> 30gig
[04:18] <neuro-> 0000:05:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[04:18] <SeanTater> neuro-: I followed the steps on the wiki and it worked
[04:18] <quiet> Anon893, you could try a DD if you have some network storage big enough to back it up.
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom > neuro-
[04:18] <neuro-> !broadcom
[04:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <Anon893> is there a help file on the forums quiet ?
[04:18] <quiet> prolly not.
[04:18] <quiet> easy enough to do though
[04:18] <neuro-> ta
[04:18] <Anon893> for someone new?
[04:19] <SeanTater> neuro-: 4318 here
[04:19] <neuro-> ugh site is timing out
[04:19] <Anon893> i've only been using ubuntu for about four weeks
[04:19] <fyrestrtr> radam: no
[04:19] <quiet> Anon893, you have access to another machine on the network?
[04:19] <harurenu> Good Morning...
[04:19] <WiseOdd> paddy_Eire: just write: freshclam --datadir=. then the daemon auto updates to the current dir :)
[04:19] <harurenu> does anyone know why the nvidia-glx package is unavailable through "apt-get"?
[04:19] <radam> fyrestrtr: thanks
[04:19] <quiet> Anon893, with quite a few GB of storage available?
[04:19] <Anon893> i have the second laptop
[04:19] <SeanTater> harurenu: late morning here
[04:19] <Anon893> its pretty much empty right now
[04:19] <PingunZ> whats the command to look for a file that starts with "dapper-" and ends with ".png"
[04:20] <Anon893> has 20gigs
 frostWire Working again nice one mate
[04:20] <prox3h> -
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> harurenu: Restricted/ propietary
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> !info nvidia-glx
[04:20] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[04:20] <SeanTater> harurenu: dunno about ubuntu, vaporized from etch a while a go
[04:20] <quiet> Anon893, well you need some external place to store...
[04:20] <PingunZ> !bootchart
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootchart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <frogzoo> PingunZ: find . -name 'dapper-*.png'
[04:20] <SeanTater> !non-free > harurenu
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about non-free  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <Anon893> i have a desktop but its running xp
[04:20] <SeanTater> no - non-free?
[04:20] <quiet> Anon893, if you can see SMB shares, that is fine.
[04:20] <ompaul> !multiverse
[04:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:21] <frogzoo> PingunZ: also 'locate dapper- | grep png
[04:21] <quiet> Anon893, breezy should be able to do so.
[04:21] <ompaul> SeanTater, that is the link ^^^ up a couple
[04:21] <neuro-> is help.ubuntu.com down?
[04:21] <SeanTater> ompaul: thanks
[04:21] <PingunZ> frogzoo, I mean in all directories
[04:21] <PingunZ> not only the home folder
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> neuro-: No just slow
[04:21] <SeanTater> neuro-: ubuntu.com has had some problems recently
[04:21] <lucas> hi. how do i solve this?: since i removed kde, my gnome looks this way: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9182/sinnombrecu1.pnggnome
[04:21] <quiet> Anon893, of so... mount an smb share from windows to breezy live cd on the laptop.
[04:22] <neuro-> :tinfoil-hat!:
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> neuro-: No just slow  it is a Gates Conspiracy
[04:22] <Anon893> i dont have a router
[04:22] <Anon893> just a cross over cable
[04:22] <lucas> hi. how do i solve this?: since i removed kde, my gnome looks this way: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9182/sinnombrecu1.png
[04:22] <PingunZ> Where are the bootchart images located ( the .png ones that tell you your boot time )
[04:22] <frogzoo> Anon893: think of it as a router with low latency
[04:23] <fusionxn1> Hello everyone!
[04:23] <PingunZ> hi fusionxn1
[04:23] <Anon893> is it possible to upgrade to ubuntu from debian?
[04:23] <PingunZ> yes
[04:23] <PingunZ> Anon
[04:23] <Anon893> if i add a repository in synapitic can i download the ubuntu kernel?
[04:23] <PingunZ> Anon893,  just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <fusionxn1> Going to be finishing my testing on ubuntu then i may just format ;)
[04:23] <frogzoo> Anon893: you'd be better off to do a clean install
[04:24] <move> lucas: you mean... it's in french?
[04:24] <quiet> Anon893, (as sudo)  mkdir /mnt/win ; mount -t smbfs //winxpboxname/sharename /mnt/win -o ip=<ip of win machine>
[04:24] <harurenu> I see that nvidia-glx is proprietary... from the net, but where can I get it, if not from ubuntu or nvidia?
[04:24] <frogzoo> !nvidia
[04:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:24] <fusionxn1> Does the PSP work fine on ubuntu?
[04:25] <quiet> Anon893, assuming that works okay... (you can ls /mnt/win to see if you can view data on the windows share)
[04:25] <ompaul> Anon893, it would be better if you did a backup of your home
[04:25] <lucas> move: no, it doesnt look the same way. the menus are more squeared...
[04:25] <move> oh
[04:25] <quiet> Anon893, BTW... you are to be running the livecd on the one that already has ubuntu installed on it.
[04:25] <move> I see
[04:25] <Anon893> alright quiet
[04:26] <Anon893> i'll try it
[04:26] <move> I thought that's what you might have ment.. but the french thing was too obvious
[04:26] <quiet> Anon893, then, you can (again, as sudo)    dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/win/ubuntu-disk.img
[04:26] <quiet> that will take a long time...
[04:26] <quiet> probably... over an hour.
[04:26] <ompaul> Anon893, I would not, I would say backup and do a clean install if you have lots of stuff I have a one liner here to id all your packages installed
[04:26] <fusionxn1> Any idea why skype takes a while to launch??
[04:26] <quiet> it will be an exact image of your hard drive...  including partitons and MBR and everything.
[04:26] <fyrestrtr> its skype, that's why.
[04:26] <Anon893> i have nothing on this computer
[04:27] <fusionxn1> lol
[04:27] <ompaul> fusionxn1, use the 1.3 beta it is a lot better and as fyrestrtr staid
[04:27] <lucas> move: do u know how to solve this?
[04:27] <Anon893> i just installed debian and i really dont like it
[04:27] <RogerBacon> hey,yesterday i configure my ipconfig table and today i ave nothing rule . Tanks for u help
[04:27] <Anon893> so there's no worries about losing anything
[04:27] <fusionxn1> Well for PC to PC calls what do you recommend
[04:27] <ompaul> Anon893, then just install ubuntu cleanly
[04:27] <Anon893> i cant
[04:27] <drbreen_> why ?
[04:27] <move> lucas: nope. sorry.
[04:27] <quiet> Anon893, then, boot the livecd on the one you want ubuntu on... follow steps to mount windows share(make sure you can see the ubuntu-disk.img)
[04:27] <PingunZ> why cant you ?
[04:27] <Anon893> the discs dont work
[04:27] <quiet> Anon893, then, dd if=/mnt/win/ubuntu-disk.img of=/dev/hda
[04:27] <quiet> then, reboot tht laptop
[04:27] <PingunZ> ok there is a thread about this on ubuntuforums.org
[04:28] <quiet> you should have an exact clone of the other laptop
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon893: Identify Installed Packages  dpkg --get-selections >out.txt to save list <out.txt to reinstall them
[04:28] <quiet> Anon893, think you can handle that?
[04:28] <Anon893> i'll try
[04:28] <quiet> k
[04:28] <Anon893> i wrote it down just in case
[04:28] <Anon893> thanks
[04:28] <quiet> np
[04:28] <fusionxn1> Does anyone know why firefox has a different icon to windows?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> CHange it
[04:29] <quiet> the hardest part will probably be getting the windows hare mounted... but that command should work... if you have any trouble... google and man mount
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: because its part of the ubuntu theme
[04:29] <quiet> fusionxn1, there are lot of firefox icons... you can find some nice ones on gnome-look
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> and for a more practical reason, this ain't windows.
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> it doesn't need to be ugly.
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Haha
[04:30] <fusionxn1> What do others use for PC-2-PC calling?
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning fyrestrtr
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> afternoon jack
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> 5:30 PM here :)
[04:30] <SuperMigue1> does any one know something about limewire?
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1: skype is still not ready for prime time, but they are working on it
[04:31] <quiet> SuperMigue1, 'something' like what?
[04:31] <frogzoo> fusionxn1: ekiga on dapper
[04:31] <fyrestrtr> SuperMigue1: sure, its called frostwire.
[04:31] <fusionxn1> Jack - cheers is there an alternative?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> NOne that I am aware of
[04:31] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: try the good ol' telephone.
[04:31] <SuperMigue1> when i donwload music using limewire or frostwire and try to play it it doesnt look good it just reapeat the same part of the song 1000 times
[04:31] <fusionxn1> fyre - lol seriously
[04:31] <frogzoo> fusionxn1: or there's asterisk
[04:32] <Zambezi> Anyone know how to restart an iPod? It just crashed.
[04:32] <taylor> wth.
[04:32] <fusionxn1> k ill google that
[04:32] <proffrinx> hey, if I want to execute terminal commands (checkgmail) when I login to ubuntu/gnome, should I put that in a .login file?
[04:32] <treb0r> fyrestrtr: i have beagle installed now, how do I tell it index the smb shares? They don't appear to be mounted even though i can open them in nautilus...
[04:32] <proffrinx> restart an ipod by holding the center button and up
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> or, do as I do -- I installed skype on my phone, and use my data plan with my provider to make all long distance calls using skype. Saves on phone bills, plus don't need to have a laptop lugging around.
[04:32] <Anon893> thanks for all the help
[04:32] <fusionxn1> Zamb i- what generation
[04:32] <frogzoo> proffrinx: try .gnomerc
[04:32] <proffrinx> you the best
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: it will index by default everything, beagle is a bit tricky. Check the docs for it.
[04:32] <treb0r> ok
[04:33] <geo_> are there any good script writers here...I am looking for a script that would allow me to connect to good old British and American rock stations
[04:33] <treb0r> any smb gurus online? How is it possible to index a share for searching?
[04:33] <proffrinx> do I have to give it any specific permissions or anything? set to executable? wave a chicken over it?
[04:33] <fyrestrtr> geo_: connect to do what? listen to music?
[04:33] <fusionxn1> Zambezi?
[04:33] <geo_> yes
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Zamboni
[04:34] <Asc> geo_: are we talking about radio stations or internet streams?
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> geo_: use amarok, rhythmbox, or any other various players.
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> proffrinx: chicken might help.
[04:34] <frogzoo> proffrinx: 700 is fine
[04:34] <RogerBacon> hey iptables d'ont use ipv6 only ipv4 ?
[04:34] <proffrinx> all I have is "chicken in a biscuit" crackers, I'll try those
[04:34] <geo_> radio stations...at one time I was a windows (eh) user and I ran winamp and could listen to my favourite radio stations,  and I am not sure how to do that in Ubuntu
[04:34] <proffrinx> thanks for all the help, I'm going to go try that
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> proffrinx: although, for safety reasons, we don't recommend you handle any foul without protection. Wear rubber gloves, or ... use a rubber chicken. Up to you, effect is the same.
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> geo_: install xmms and you'll be right at home.
[04:35] <gatekeeper> geo_: amarok and http://www.shoutcast.com/
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> geo_: or beep-media-player, or amarok, or rhythmbox -- many choices. Welcome to the Wal*Mart of media players. Always Low Prices, Always.
[04:36] <geo_> many many thanks
[04:36] <move> beep-media-player is sweeeet
[04:36] <frogzoo> RogerBacon: that would be ip6tables
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> treb0r: #samba maybe
[04:37] <move> winamp with alll the goodness and not he bloat
[04:37] <move> although global hotkeys wouldn't have killed them
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> maybe they considered that bloat.
[04:37] <pantaloon> wish they would port foobar2000
[04:37] <harurenu> got it... I think
[04:37] <harurenu> rebooting, thanks a lot guys
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> pantaloon: what does that do?
[04:37] <RogerBacon> frogzoo :    iptables - administration tool for IPv4 packet filtering and NAT ..... man iptables
[04:37] <pantaloon> too may itunes clones imho
[04:37] <frogzoo> RogerBacon: that would be ip6tables
[04:38] <RogerBacon> thx
[04:38] <pantaloon> fyrestrtr, its an music player...totally customizable
[04:39] <fyrestrtr> pantaloon: oh, thanks. THAT helped.
[04:40] <CyDrive> Does anyone know of a sound control like the one in windows?
[04:40] <fusionxn1> Erm asterisk dont work?!
[04:40] <quiet> CyDrive, like.. gnome volume control?
[04:40] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: first, do you know what it is?
[04:40] <Seveas> CyDrive, applications  sound and video  volume control
[04:40] <geo_> okay next question best way to back up my whole harddrive?  and easy to use
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> CyDrive: Like a mixer?
[04:41] <Seveas> !backup > geo_
[04:41] <quiet> CyDrive, or alsamixer (in console)
[04:41] <fusionxn1> i read the readme and followed it and when it comes to launch it i get: bash: asterisk: command not found
[04:41] <CyDrive> quiet: yeah like a mixer but affects all my sounds
[04:41] <frogzoo> geo_: man tar
[04:41] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: just answer my question, please. Do you know what it is?
[04:42] <quiet> CyDrive, there are both gui and console ones... alsamixer in console... the primary mixer...but you can also use gnome volume control... i believe it's hidden by default... add it with alacarte
[04:42] <frogzoo> geo_: also apt-cache search backup
[04:42] <fusionxn1> No need to get pushy - frogzoo said to try it for pc-2pc calls
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> HOw do I execute a binary file in term?
[04:42] <quiet> ./
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> yeah, but did you find out what it was before you just installed it, and then complained that it didn't work?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tk
[04:43] <fusionxn1> fyre - it wont launch?!!
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: lol, I guess the answer to my question is a "no".
[04:43] <fusionxn1> huh?
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> do you even know what it is? what it does? what it is used for?
[04:43] <fusionxn1> calling another PC?
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> !info asterisk
[04:44] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) - dummy package. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.7.1.dfsg-2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 213 kB, installed size 560 kB
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> its a PBX software. Its not yahoo voice chat or some such.
[04:44] <fusionxn1> oh ok
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> uninstall it, its not going to solve your problems.
[04:44] <fusionxn1> No use to me then
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> and next time, *research* the suggestions before you blindly install them.
[04:45] <imme-emosol> So would anyone know why my cd/dvd-writer won't work while my cd-drive does?
[04:45] <Nilvio> how i install .run file ?
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> Nilvio: what program is it?
[04:45] <Nilvio> ati
[04:45] <Nilvio> ati drivers
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> Nilvio: read the wiki
[04:45] <Nilvio> ok
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> !ati
[04:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <frogzoo> methinks you can run asterisk as a voip client - would just take some fiddling
[04:45] <fusionxn1> fyre on there site i says: open source telephony
[04:46] <hypnox> fusionxn1 check out gizmo and skype and ekiga
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: lol -- maaan, read the rest of the site; or just read the 'supported hardware' section.
[04:46] <frogzoo> fusionxn1: the thing about asterisk is it does everything ^ 2
[04:47] <hypnox> aye asterisk is more of a framework, its not something the average user wants to mess with
[04:47] <fusionxn1> thanks frog and hypnox. Fyre take it easy im still learning geez
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> frogzoo: its *very* complicated to setup, you need special hardware, special lines, and a dedicated machine. Its not chatting software that does voice.
[04:47] <timalot> i upgraded to dapper now my soundcard is not working... any ideas?
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: yes, and let this be a lesson to you -- always find out what it is that you are installing. Just because its Linux, doesn't mean you can't screw up your system :)
[04:47] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: asterisk supports special hardware, but it's not required
[04:47] <fusionxn1> Hey hypnox - is there any screenshots of gizmo
[04:48] <hypnox> google for gizmo
[04:48] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: openwrt runs asterisk
[04:48] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: that's on a $100 AP
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> frogzoo: dude ...
[04:48] <fusionxn1> fyre - i know but it was recommended and wanted to try it - i couldnt install it anyway
[04:48] <frogzoo> I know, I know...
[04:49] <mathieu_> is there a program that allows you to break down directories by filesize to make these files easily burnable to a cd ?
[04:49] <fusionxn1> Is there a linux program like dvd decrypter?
[04:50] <imme-emosol> Would anyone know why my cd/dvd-writer won't work while my cd-drive does?
[04:50] <mathieu_> i guess i'm looking for a script
[04:50] <fusionxn1> Hypnox can you help
[04:51] <fusionxn1> I says error: dependency is not satisfiable: libsipphoneapi
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> mathieu_: du --max-depth=1 will get you your directory listing.
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> !dvd > fusionxn1
[04:51] <mathieu_> fyrestrtr: yes, but I then want the script to break down directories into 650mb sizes
[04:51] <fusionxn1> Thanks fyre.
[04:51] <vvlaw> how to mount the Stroge Card ?
[04:52] <fusionxn1> What does error: dependency is not satisfiable: libsipphoneapi mean
[04:53] <Anon893> what is dappers kernel ?
[04:53] <fusionxn1> Nevermind
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> 2.6.15
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> fusionxn1: means you are missing a program that the system needs inorder to install whatever it is you are currently trying to install.
[04:54] <fusionxn1> fyre - ya i got it :)
[04:54] <fusionxn1> its under troubleshooting on the site
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> hopefully you are still not trying to get asterisk to work.
[04:54] <fusionxn1> no - gizmo
[04:55] <drbreen_> uname -a
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> ah gizmo :)
[04:55] <drbreen_> Linux [censored]  2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jul 17 19:52:53 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:55] <drbreen_> !gizmo
[04:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about gizmo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:55] <fusionxn1> drb - i got it :)
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> !info gizmo
[04:55] <ubotu> Package gizmo does not exist in dapper
[04:55] <Anon893> i think i'm about to royally f up my computer
[04:56] <gatekeeper> Anon893: mine is: 2.6.15-26-386
[04:56] <Anon893> i replaced debians source.list with ubuntu's and now i'm trying to upgrade to dapper
[04:56] <drbreen_> !info ekiga
[04:56] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[04:56] <fusionxn1> Its installing now :)
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> Anon893: wth why are you doing that?!
[04:56] <drbreen_> anon893: good luck !
[04:56] <Anon893> this will be a miracle
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> if it works, yeah.
[04:57] <gatekeeper> Anon893: that should prove entertaining :-)
[04:57] <Anon893> because i dont like debian fyrestrtr and i cant install ubuntu
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> but it won't :)
[04:57] <fusionxn1> w00t
[04:57] <Anon893> lol gatekeeper
[04:57] <Anon893> could anyone give me a list of all the kernel packages installed on dapper?
[04:57] <drbreen_> anon893: i upgraded to dapper per isdn connection - took several days. THAT is hard.
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> Anon893: there is only one that installs.
[04:57] <spiderworm> anyone here have the intel 3945abg wireless card?  mine... randomly has disappeared
[04:57] <gatekeeper> fyrestrtr: he like living dangerously :-)
[04:57] <G8trWork> Is there a good site comparing the Desktop to the Server version, meaning what you get and what you don't get?
[04:57] <Anon893> i have a huge list of kernels
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> gatekeeper: I guess he's bored.
[04:58] <gatekeeper> must be
[04:58] <fusionxn1> Is gizmo free pc-2-pc calling then?
[04:58] <Anon893> i took off anything that said sarge or 2.4.27-2
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> G8trWork: you don't get the graphical interface, other than that, its pretty much the same thing.
[04:58] <G8trWork> so theres no gui at all fyrestrtr?
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> G8trWork: and with the graphical interface, I mean the desktop and all its applications (no openoffice, no firefox, etc.)
[04:59] <G8trWork> why is that?
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> G8trWork: some people would argue the command line was a gui, but yes, there is none. You can install one later though.
[04:59] <G8trWork> oh, so you can install one..
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> because its a server. You don't use the server to write your cooking recipies.
[04:59] <gatekeeper> Anon893: been using linux for long?
[04:59] <snowblink> G8trWork, get server, then if you want the desktop apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <Anon893> four weeks
[04:59] <G8trWork> Im trying to get into the server side of linux, but Im a server 2003 guy at work
[04:59] <G8trWork> thats all I know
[04:59] <Anon893> lol
[05:00] <Anon893> this should be interesting
[05:00] <gatekeeper> Anon893: going to end in tears!
[05:00] <fusionxn1> !dvd
[05:00] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:00] <Anon893> probably
[05:00] <fyrestrtr> G8trWork: to be honest, anything that you can do on the 'server' install, you can do on the desktop install too. Server is just a trimmed down, minimal install of all the critical files ubuntu needs.
[05:00] <Anon893> at least i'll get rid of debian
[05:00] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > fusionxn1
[05:00] <Anon893> theoretically this could work though right?
[05:00] <Anon893> i mean its just upgrading the kernel
[05:01] <fyrestrtr> Anon893: doubt it, since the packages are named differently.
[05:01] <fusionxn1> fyre??
[05:01] <Anon893> oh well
[05:01] <Anon893> here's hoping
[05:01] <gatekeeper> Anon893: you are about to find out the hard way
[05:01] <fyrestrtr> ...how theoretical it is ;)
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> G8trWork: in the linux world, a gui is strictly *optional*
[05:02] <Anon893> god have mercy
[05:02] <Anon893> 1,869 files
[05:02] <frogzoo> tee hee
[05:02] <Anon893> 7 hours
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> its not mandatory like Windows, since in linux -- the gui components are not part of the core system. You can, at any given time, remove all of the X server system and still have a functioning machine.
[05:02] <Anon893> i've got time
[05:03] <fyrestrtr> Anon893: you'll need more than 7 hours. That's "theoretical" time.
[05:03] <Anon893> true
[05:03] <Anon893> this is exciting
[05:03] <Enverex> When Edgy comes out, I heard about being able to run 32bit and 64bit programs on it at the same time, now will I be able to upgrade from 32bit Dapper to that version of Edgy or will I need to be on 64bit Dapper?
[05:03] <frogzoo> Anon893: seriously, this is not a worthwhile effort
[05:03] <gatekeeper> Anon893: what sort of internet connection have you got?
[05:03] <rub> i want to let my users use msn messanger without proxy, what rules should i put in my firewall and how to know what address is using msn messanger?
[05:03] <fyrestrtr> suggest you pop in something like .... History of the World Part I
[05:03] <Anon893> dsl
[05:03] <mcphail> Enverex: you can run 32 and 64bit progs at present
[05:04] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: you can do that currently, it just takes a bit of an effort.
[05:04] <gatekeeper> Anon893: how fast?
[05:04] <fyrestrtr> rub: just open the ports.
[05:04] <Anon893> not sure
[05:04] <Anon893> it varies
[05:04] <rub> what port use msn messanger
[05:04] <Anon893> i think in the 100/kbs range
[05:04] <fyrestrtr> rub: you can google the ports, I don't remember, but its a whole bunch of them.
[05:04] <Anon893> sometimes more
[05:05] <rub> how should i seek in google, how should i ask ?
[05:05] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, I don't want to hear the word "CHROOT"
[05:05] <Enverex> heh
[05:05] <fyrestrtr> rub: http://www.google.com/search?q=msn+proxy+configuration+port+ranges
[05:05] <rub> thanks
[05:05] <Enverex> But anyway, I've decided to switch to dapper 64bit but I'm currently on dapper 32bit, is there any easy way of "switching" or upgrading?
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> you know lots of things don't work in 64 bit, right?
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> I think flash is a dead duck in 64 bit.
[05:07] <frogzoo> Enverex: you'll find 64bit not so pleasant on the desktop
[05:07] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Other than Flash and some emulators I wasn't aware of anything
[05:07] <fyrestrtr> I don't know about upgrading, but switching should be ... as easy as downloading the kernel and setting it up. Then you might have to re-install stuff.
[05:07] <Enverex> Grrr, Gentoo worked well in 64bit, heh
[05:07] <wildman> hello
[05:07] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: I heard its only for the true enthusiasts, like Anon over there.
[05:08] <wildman> is the guy that was asking yesterday why gnome was slowing his disk around?
[05:08] <frogzoo> wildman: what's the answer?
[05:08] <Enverex> hmm, I'm just bored and want something to do, heh, I've installed everything in Synaptic that looks interesting and I can't find anything to do
[05:08] <wildman> frogzoo, http://blogs.gnome.org/view/ryanl/2006/07/27/0 looks to be the answer...
[05:09] <frogzoo> wildman: cheers
[05:09] <wildman> file access monitor accessing the disk 10 times a second :P
[05:09] <magical_trevskyy> hi, can somebody help me, my ubuntu box appears to have locked me out
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: hey, you could try switching to debian!
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: that'll keep you occupied.
[05:09] <paniq> hey there. i want to downgrade from edgy back to dapper. how can i do that?
[05:09] <magical_trevskyy> I booted up, logged in and everything seemed fine, then I tried ssh'ing into the box, and it hung after I entered my pass
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> you and Anon893 could swap tips.
[05:09] <paniq> i changed already back all deps
[05:09] <magical_trevskyy> and sudo hangs
[05:09] <wildman> frogzoo, you knew about that already?
[05:09] <paniq> but it doesnt downgrade the packages
[05:10] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Well that would be kinda counter productive
[05:10] <gatekeeper> fyrestrtr: the answer to the flash problem with 64bit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:10] <Enverex> I'd make packages but it's kinda just infuriating me and making me want to break things, heh
[05:10] <gatekeeper> fyrestrtr: have to do the same for mplayer codecs etc
[05:10] <magical_trevskyy> is there any backup way I can login, or any reason why my password has stopped working?
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> magical_trevskyy: you tried to ssh into the same machine you were logged into?
[05:10] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, yeah
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: see that stuff if you want to switch.
[05:10] <magical_trevskyy> but I can't even login to it locally now
[05:11] <LoneShadow> can someone help me, I think I messed up my apt-get repos ??
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> magical_trevskyy: what did you type? and is this a fresh install?
[05:11] <magical_trevskyy> I just get 'login timed out after 60 seconds;
[05:11] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, I saw it
[05:11] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, nope it's been working for ages, but I just had a power cut and it restarted
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[05:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:11] <AaronShaf> How do I list currently running processes?
[05:11] <wildman> AaronShaf, ps
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> AaronShaf: ps aux
[05:11] <AaronShaf> thanks
[05:11] <magical_trevskyy> I managed to log in at first, but now I can't get in at all
[05:11] <rub> i am looking for one way, my proxy server doesnt disconnect my client, was difficult to me find one solution like timeout, could someone helpv me ?
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> magical_trevskyy: what happens?
[05:12] <frogzoo> wildman: nope - it's interesting - i've had to resort to the console to save batteries - now i know why
[05:12] <LoneShadow> can someone take a quick look at http://pastebin.ca/102334 ?
[05:12] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, it's at a terminal type screen (no x), and when i enter my username and pass, it sits there for a minute, then says login timed out
[05:12] <pike_> AaronShaf: you can use the apropos command to search for stuff like that like apropos processes
[05:12] <AaronShaf> k, thanks
[05:12] <user-land> Enverex, i am looking for someone who could make a VLC package with .amr support: http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Common_Problems#AMR
[05:12] <wildman> frogzoo, didn't read it all (will do after lunch) maybe there's a way to solve it :)
[05:12] <Enverex> user-land, hmm
[05:13] <fyrestrtr> magical_trevskyy: hrmm.....
[05:13] <user-land> it is an audio format for encoding voice messages/recordings.
[05:13] <Enverex> Does anyone know if someone's made an Ubuntu package for OoLite? (the Debian one doesn't work because of needing  libc6 which it doesn't see even if installed)
[05:13] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, it doesn't give any bad password errors or anything, it just does nothing at all :<
[05:13] <fusionxn1> dvd:rip installed :)
[05:13] <fusionxn1> Doesnt look too good tho
[05:14] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, locally it's now sat at a login screen, but ssh just worked o____O
[05:14] <gatekeeper> LoneShadow: is your system hosed?
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> magical_trevskyy: do a file system check.
[05:14] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, so that should give me a chance to fix whatever is breaking local login, if I knew what it was
[05:14] <magical_trevskyy> how would I do that?
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> LoneShadow: setup your hostname properly
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> fsck
[05:15] <magical_trevskyy> /dev/hda1 is mounted.
[05:15] <magical_trevskyy> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[05:15] <magical_trevskyy> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[05:15] <LoneShadow> fyrestrtr: I have a setup my hostname, while installing mysql over chroot, I might have typed the wrong hostname
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> type 'hostname' what does it give you?
[05:15] <LoneShadow> it gives msntvcf
[05:15] <apoka> Hi
[05:15] <LoneShadow> this is a diskless setup, nfs boot
[05:16] <magical_trevskyy> fyrestrtr, I'm guessing running fsck is a bad idea?
[05:16] <flodine> has anyone upgraded there dapper to kernel 2.6.17 ?
[05:16] <CarinArr> i'm using whatever kernel's the latest
[05:16] <LoneShadow> gatekeeper, fyrestrtr: do you know what those errors mean ?
[05:17] <frogzoo> 2.6.15 in the repos
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> magical_trevskyy: try sudo tune2fs -c 2 -C 2
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> then reboot the machine
[05:17] <magical_trevskyy> ok, thanks :)
[05:17] <LoneShadow> about the postfix scripts
[05:17] <flodine> CarinArr you mean 2.6.15
[05:17] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Can you think of any fun stuff for me to play about with?
[05:17] <CarinArr> yeah if that's the latest in the repository
[05:17] <CarinArr> ;)
[05:18] <mathieu_> i recently upgraded my kernel to get an SD card working that did not work with the stock ubuntu kernel, now my printing and scanning does not work as regular user. does ubuntu do something to the kernel to get things things to run as user ?
[05:18] <fyrestrtr> LoneShadow: don't know as I am not a postfix user, but it seems you have other issues with apt. Shutdown postfix before you run that command again and see if that helps.
[05:18] <apoka> the lastest version in the repo: linux-image-2.6.15-23
[05:19] <flodine> i guess Edgy Eft is the only way to get upgraded
[05:19] <frogzoo> mathieu_: device permissions?
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> Enverex: XGL :)
[05:20] <mathieu_> frogzoo: i don't know, the only thing that i changed was the kernel, and now I need to run xsane as root ...
[05:20] <mc__> is ubuntu.com still down?
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> mathieu_: still part of scanner group?
[05:20] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Meh, that'll just break 3D
[05:20] <fusionxn1> ANyone tried vobcopy?
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> yeah then you can play around to get it working. Extra points if you have an ATI card.
[05:20] <gatekeeper> mc__: think so
[05:20] <apoka> When is available the XGL stable release?
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> apoka: ask in #xgl :)
[05:21] <apoka> XD
[05:21] <mc__> hm well,than can someone point me out how to geht quicktime working with ubuntu?
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > mc__
[05:21] <RogerBacon> apoka : impossible , i run ubuntu drapper with 2.6.15-26-386 and official depo
[05:21] <GTX> How do I install java?
[05:21] <taw> hello
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> !java > GTZ
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> !java > GTX
[05:21] <tristanmike> mc__: you need the w32codecs
[05:21] <taw> what can be possible reasons for acroread not working ^^; ?
[05:21] <mathieu_> fyrestrtr: i don't know, but when i reboot with the stock ubuntu kernel the scanner works as a normal user, but then i reboot with the vanilla kernel and xsane only runs as root
[05:21] <mc__> fyrestrtr, ubuntu.com is down...
[05:22] <taw> it shows splashscreen, then quits
[05:22] <apoka> RogerBacon, Woooooow I've that update XD sorry XD
[05:22] <tristanmike> !w32codecs > mc__
[05:22] <RogerBacon> apoka : np
[05:22] <taw> 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 on dapper
[05:22] <apoka> RogerBacon, ?
[05:22] <mc__> tristanmike, already got that package
[05:22] <Enverex> fyrestrtr, Ubuntu.wiki is down
[05:22] <gatekeeper> mc__: bits of it are
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> ah rats, not again.
[05:22] <tristanmike> mc__: "sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>"
[05:22] <flodine> ubuntu.com is working
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: ??
[05:22] <RogerBacon> apoka : np = no problem
[05:23] <mc__> tristanmike, i already installed it
[05:23] <apoka> RogerBacon, ok :) XD
[05:23] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, 'sup?
[05:23] <fyrestrtr> site's down again.
[05:23] <tristanmike> mc__: than what's the trouble ?
[05:23] <fyrestrtr> maybe you could inform someone.
[05:23] <Seveas> did that already
[05:23] <mc__> tristanmike, i cant play *mov files
[05:23] <LoneShadow> ok I uninstalled postfix, which is uninstalling mysql-server as well, and the problem went away
[05:23] <fyrestrtr> oh, okay thanks :)
[05:23] <tristanmike> mc__: what program are you using ?
[05:23] <LoneShadow> why does mysql-server require mailx and postfix ?
[05:23] <ricardo> hi..does anybody uses MATLAB under WINE?
[05:23] <mc__> tristanmike, mplayer
[05:23] <rarj> is there any way to set emacs to read lotus notes emails ?
[05:23] <flodine> if ubuntu repository is so good why wont it let me have the new kernel like fedora
[05:23] <apoka> The XGL channel is dead XD
[05:24] <mc__> flodine, you can have the new kernel with edgy
[05:24] <fyrestrtr> flodine: because this is not fedora.
[05:24] <flodine> lol
[05:24] <mc__> flodine, but dapper is stable not bleeding edge
[05:24] <tristanmike> mc__: really ? and it won't play .mov's ? that's odd because Mplayer comes with those codecs prebuilt into it, it doesn't even use the w32codecs
[05:24] <flodine> then the repository need help
[05:24] <GTX> fyrestrtr, could you tell me here site isnt loading for me
[05:24] <fyrestrtr> mc__: you could also try vlc player, that plays almost anything.
[05:24] <prox3h> Hey Room , i just installed Ubuntu for the first time but im getting login errors after install. Anyone care to help? :)
[05:24] <Trojan_Horse> hey where do i get wma codecs
[05:24] <mc__> tristanmike, well maybe its a bug then,if i start to play a mov i see some strange colors
[05:24] <LoneShadow> can someone do "apt-get -s install mysql-server" and see if its simulating install of mailx and postfix ?
[05:24] <longwave> flodine: 2.6.17 is in edgy, you need that if you want to stay bleeding edge
[05:25] <gatekeeper> flodine: there are howto's to build kernels in the ubuntu forums
[05:25] <tristanmike> mc__: do you have a particular link ? or is it locally on your computer ?
[05:25] <frogzoo> flodine: sometimes less is more...
[05:25] <tristanmike> mc__: I have no trouble watching trailers off of quicktime.com
[05:25] <fyrestrtr> GTX: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[05:25] <mc__> tristanmike, http://homepage.mac.com/svc/LispMovies/index.html
[05:25] <prox3h> Hey Room , i just installed Ubuntu for the first time but im getting login errors after install. Anyone care to help? :D
[05:25] <flodine> gatekeeper thats what i wanna hear
[05:26] <GTX> Thanks fyrestrtr :)
[05:26] <longwave> prox3h: what errors?
[05:26] <mc__> !ask > prox3h
[05:26] <bobovski> hi all
[05:26] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[05:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:26] <prox3h> its telling me that it was unable to create the /bin/.gnome2/ dir
[05:26] <prox3h> with permission denied
[05:26] <flodine> frogzoo dont be so sure of that my bank says im broke and my rent is due
[05:27] <tristanmike> mc__: downloading now......
[05:27] <bobovski> how do I burn mp3 files directly to an audio cd...I've tried serpentine, k3b etc, but none of them will load any mp3 file
[05:27] <prox3h> also $HOME/.dmrc. should be owned by user and have 644 permissions
[05:27] <bobovski> seems to be a problem with plug-ins but I have all the libs I can find
[05:27] <tristanmike> bobovski: you need to add mp3 support
[05:27] <GTX> fyrestrtr, do I need anything else to get it to work in firefox?
[05:27] <bobovski> tristanmike: okay, how do I do that?
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> GTX: that should be it, afaik.
[05:27] <apoka> because don't try Automatix?
[05:27] <GTX> ok thanks fyrestrtr :)
[05:27] <tristanmike> bobovski: did you follow the restricted formats wiki to install mp3 playback ?
[05:28] <apoka> Automatix repository: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt dapper main
[05:28] <bobovski> tristanmike: no, not yet. let me take a gander
[05:28] <prox3h> LINK TO ERROR DESCRIPTION >> http://pastebin.com/758231
[05:28] <apoka> Is very easy install software with this programme
[05:29] <Buczeq> jest tu jaki polak?? :(
[05:29] <tristanmike> bobovski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:29] <bobovski> tristanmike: where do I find that wiki, please?
[05:29] <gatekeeper> bobovski: don't know if there is an eqivalent gnome app for those of us that use kubuntu it's K3b then sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[05:29] <bobovski> tristanmike: thanks
[05:30] <voraistos> hello guys. my ubuntu install crashed recently: some kind of trouble with the hard drive (it was working fine, no admin stuff, i shut down, when i turn it on again it is broken). it tried to repair itself...... after that grub wouldnt work anymore... i try to reinstall (i have the dapper live CD) and it cant format. i tried to "parted" it, but it seems it cant write the label. i need some GPL(i would prefer that)  soft to 
[05:30] <prox3h> mc__ : http://pastebin.com/758231  < description of error
[05:30] <fusionxn1> Well im chuffed. installed wine and used wine to install dvd shrink and it works :)
[05:31] <gatekeeper> voraistos: you could try badblocks from a livecd
[05:31] <tristanmike> mc__: it's working fine here
[05:31] <mc__> tristanmike, strange
[05:31] <prox3h> mc__: http://pastebin.com/758231  < thats a description of the error that im gettin when i try to login
[05:31] <voraistos> gatekeeper: i try that now
[05:31] <prox3h> any ideas on whats wrong ?
[05:31] <apoka> voraistos, You ubuntu cd happened the md5 comprobation?
[05:31] <tristanmike> mc__: it's weird though, it's like the video is leaving the text behind...
[05:31] <voraistos> apoka: no problem with livecd
[05:31] <gatekeeper> voraistos: there is also a thing called smartctrl
[05:32] <tristanmike> mc__: oh, wait, that's stopped, I guess it was suppose to be like that
[05:32] <bobovski> is us.archive.ubuntu down?
[05:32] <bobovski> never mind works now
[05:33] <bobovski> Thanks tristanmike, gatekeeper. I've got it working now
[05:33] <tristanmike> bobovski: anytime :D glad to hear it
[05:33] <gatekeeper> bobovski: yw :-)
[05:34] <prox3h> mc__: any ideas on how to fix my error? http://pastebin.com/758231
[05:34] <Cody`> Does anyone know why the default ubuntu apache package is redirecting localhost/manage to localhost/manage.php? mod_speling is not loaded either
[05:34] <bobovski> yup, k3b is working perfectly now
[05:34] <Dr4g> Pastebin.com is lagging big time profoX`
[05:34] <Cody`> Example:http://cody.homelinux.com:8181/manage/a;lsfj;asjdf;lajdf/asd;fja;lsdf;lajf;lajsdkfj
[05:35] <bobovski> now I just need to figure out how to burn dvds with it :(
[05:35] <Dr4g> prox3h, *
[05:35] <prox3h> yeah i seen when i tried to post that
[05:35] <jonah1980_2> hi just building a new ubuntu system, quick question - ran out of cable in computer, can i use same serial cable for cd/dvd drive and hardrive or do they need to be on seperate leads?
[05:35] <taw> jonah1980_2: you mean you have that tape with 3 ends ;-) ?
[05:36] <bobovski> thanks again all, byebye
[05:36] <prox3h> l8r
[05:36] <jonah1980_2> taw, yeah
[05:37] <tokenbad> someone tell me what this error means: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19019
[05:37] <taw> jonah1980_2: you can use the same cable for both hard drive and dvd
[05:38] <taw> jonah1980_2: as long as one of them is set to master and other to slave
[05:38] <prox3h> taw: http://pastebin.com/758231 can you check that error for me please
[05:39] <jonah1980_2> taw, even with two dvd drives in there?
[05:39] <taw> jonah1980_2: that's the point of ata cables, 2 devices per 1 controller, doesn't matter what devices
[05:39] <kalm> Hello, "gam_server" use 10% of my cpu,what can I do?
[05:39] <Dr4g> prox3h, it took me like 10 mins to load pastebin, so i have uploaded it for you, so other people can help... At
[05:39] <Dr4g> http://uk8bc.co.uk/proxy-errors.txt
[05:39] <Dr4g> -
[05:40] <kalm> is it really necessary? I never saw it on others distribution(
[05:40] <taw> kalm: that's a very interesting question, it's definitely a bug in it :-)
[05:40] <prox3h> thanks Dr4g !
[05:40] <taw> kalm: it's not supposed to take even 1%
[05:40] <kalm> :/
[05:40] <prox3h> taw: can you check this error for me m8 http://uk8bc.co.uk/proxy-errors.txt
[05:40] <SuperMoonMan> hello...I'm having an issue booting the live cd...it's getting to the page with the ubuntu logo where it loads everything, but then at the next screen it just hangs and hangs
[05:41] <kalm> how can we remove it?
[05:41] <fusionxn1> Is there anyway to get to the folder "drive_c" that wine uses?
[05:41] <taw> prox3h: is $HOME even set ?
[05:41] <kalm> 'cause the package is essential
[05:41] <goatmale> fusion
[05:41] <fusionxn1> goat?
[05:41] <goatmale> you need to vied hidden files to see it
[05:41] <Dr4g> taw, he just installed ubuntu , rebooted and get that error on login.
[05:41] <pike_> fusionxn1: cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[05:41] <fusionxn1> ahh cheers
[05:41] <fusionxn1> i want to use an icon for dvd shrink
[05:42] <goatmale> haha
[05:42] <ricardo> pike_: do you how to make MATLAB work with WINE without using -nojvm option?
[05:42] <fusionxn1> goat - do you know where it is located
[05:42] <voraistos> people use matlab ?
[05:42] <pike_> ricardo: sorry no :)
[05:43] <dribble> native matlab exists for linux
[05:43] <taw> Dr4g prox3h: i don't know, but /home on livecd is probably not the same as /home on the actual instalation
[05:43] <jereth_da_lion> hello can someone please help me
[05:43] <rabbit7> hey there.. im looking for some server monitoring utility alike the one which comes with freebsd for ubuntu server
[05:43] <taw> Dr4g prox3h: so it's rather natural that you don't see /home/<your usename> when you boot from livecd
[05:43] <SuperMoonMan> so I've been hanging waiting to go into the live cd for a long time
[05:43] <Dr4g> taw, i mean loaded liveCD, mounted the linux partition we just installed.. and created it.
[05:43] <rabbit7> can anybody point me into a direction ?  i dont like to make all the scripts myself
[05:43] <rabbit7> thx
[05:43] <jereth_da_lion> i need help with a server running dapper
[05:43] <ricardo> pike_: do u know of it is even possible?
[05:43] <wildman> bye ppl
[05:44] <Bergcube> jereth_da_lion~  What is the problem with it?
[05:44] <voraistos> jereth_da_lion: what kind of help ?
[05:44] <jereth_da_lion> live cd runs and installs but during reboot no grub no nothing from the scsi drives
[05:44] <shellsage> Hi. Where might I download the ubuntu livecd/installcd source?
[05:44] <pike_> ricardo: no maybe someone in #wine might have some input
[05:44] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[05:44] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:44] <fusionxn1> Goat - i have enabled hidden files but I cannot locate it
[05:45] <taw> Dr4g: uhm, can you login from console ?
[05:45] <voraistos> jereth_da_lion: i am sorry i cant help with that:(
[05:45] <jorge232> are there any mouse gestures for ubuntu?
[05:45] <fusionxn1> been told easyubuntu and automatrix really screws with ubuntu
[05:45] <Dr4g> taw no he can't but i have an idea that i seen on a forum
[05:45] <jorge232> that's the one thing i'm missing
[05:45] <squidgy> Hi.  I have a problem in which searches typed into the google search bar from firefox take approx. 5 minutes to appear, but going to www.google.com is instantaneous.  Any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[05:45] <Bergcube> jereth_da_lion~  Is this a Compaq server?
[05:45] <jereth_da_lion> hmmm ok thanks
[05:45] <prox3h> Dr4g: you're welcome to come up to my house and fix it for me :))
[05:45] <prox3h> lol
[05:46] <Dr4g> prox3h,
[05:46] <Dr4g> open console
[05:46] <prox3h> hi
[05:46] <prox3h> open
[05:46] <Dr4g> proxy, type "sudo mkdir /mnt/nix && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/nix"
[05:46] <voraistos> Bergcube: maybe this guy is working for compaq ;)
[05:46] <SuperMoonMan> hmm can anyone help me with this problem of not being able to boot the live cd? I've burned the iso right and there aren't any errors, but it still won't go into ubuntu, it hangs on the screen right before that
[05:46] <taw> squidgy: is firefox going to www.google.com or some other google domain ?
[05:46] <Bergcube> voraistos~  ROTFL!
[05:46] <Dr4g> did it work? or output errors
[05:46] <Dr4g> profoX`,
[05:46] <Dr4g> prox3h,
[05:47] <prox3h> emm
[05:47] <prox3h> yeah seems to have worked
[05:47] <Dr4g> good
[05:47] <rabbit7> anybody ? a simple server monitoring tool ??
[05:47] <Dr4g> ok.
[05:47] <fusionxn1> I think i found a bug
[05:47] <MenZa> !bugs
[05:47] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <Dr4g> now cd to /mnt/nix/home/
[05:47] <Dr4g> prox3h,
[05:47] <fusionxn1> k will do
[05:47] <prox3h> done
[05:47] <prox3h> aha! dir 'proxy' is there
[05:48] <profoX`> Dr4g: thats the second time :P
[05:48] <prox3h> yeah lol
[05:48] <Dr4g> prox3h, because i created it
[05:48] <thegoldenaura> Hi there. I have installed Ubuntu 6.06 Server version. Now i would like to install Gnome, what windowserver should i install? XFree86 or XOrg? Thanks
[05:48] <Dr4g> lol profoX`
[05:48] <profoX`> ;)
[05:48] <ricardo> pike_: already tried...no luck
[05:48] <Dr4g> cd into your home DIR prox3h
[05:48] <prox3h> niceone Dr4g
[05:48] <squidgy> taw: I'm not sure.  What's the easiest way to check?  Do I need to run a packet sniffer?  (Also:  gaim suddenly won't log into my google talk account)
[05:48] <prox3h> im in
[05:48] <prox3h> :)
[05:49] <taw> squidgy: just enter something in firefox search box and check the address bar :-)
[05:49] <SuperMoonMan> *tear* would someone mind helping me figure out what the issue is as to why it is hanging on this screen
[05:49] <Dr4g> prox3h, type "sudo chown ./dmrc"
[05:49] <longwave> tokenbad: you should install libwww-perl
[05:49] <prox3h> missing operand after ./dmrc
[05:49] <longwave> oops i typed that a while back and forgot to press enter
[05:49] <Dr4g> hmm
[05:50] <rabbit7> server monitoring tool ? anybody.. id like to get a mail every day and one every week about the status of my server
[05:50] <Dr4g> prox3h, type this: sudo chmod 644 .dmrc
[05:50] <rabbit7> syslog entries ssh connection failures etc
[05:50] <Dr4g> in /mnt/nix/home/proxy
[05:50] <Spec> rabbit7: zenoss
[05:50] <Spec> rabbit7: or bigbrother (not 100% free)
[05:50] <prox3h> cannot acces '.dmrc': No such file or directory
[05:50] <Spec> rabbit7: or openSmart (probably your best bet)
[05:50] <Dr4g> ok
[05:51] <Spec> rabbit7: but that's 24/7 monitoring, it can send pagers/e-mails/etc when something goes down, etc etc
[05:51] <longwave> rabbit7: or logcheck, or logwatch, or munin if you want pretty graphs... there's lots of options
[05:51] <prox3h> man i need a ciggi :< wanna do this though :)
[05:51] <squidgy> taw:  well, when the result finally appears, it's www.google.com.  But it displays a blank tab with the spinning throbber for up to 5 minutes before that appears.  When I open a new tab and just type www.google.com, it instantly displays, even if I refresh to ensure that I'm not loading from cache.
[05:51] <Dr4g> prox3h, "!sudo chmod 755 /home/{your username}"
[05:51] <Roconda> Hey, when I install (k)ubuntu on a computer I got (Uncompressing Linux ... crc error -- System halted) someone knows a solution?
[05:51] <rabbit7> Spec: thx for the tipps :)
[05:51] <Dr4g> prox3h, "sudo chmod 755 /home/{your username}"
[05:51] <rabbit7> longwave thx for the tipps
[05:51] <Dr4g> sorry no
[05:51] <prox3h> lol
[05:51] <prox3h> what then
[05:52] <Dr4g> prox3h, "sudo chmod 755 /mnt/nix/home/proxy"
[05:52] <fusionxn1> Submitted bug.
[05:52] <prox3h> yeah that one worked
[05:52] <taw> squidgy: well, i have no clue except that it can be a dns problem
[05:52] <longwave> Roconda: that means your installation media is bad, redownload/reburn it
[05:52] <prox3h> Dr4g: that one worked m8
[05:52] <Dr4g> cool hold on
[05:52] <prox3h> kk
[05:52] <prox3h> can we take a break man
[05:52] <prox3h> my body is cravin nicotene
[05:52] <prox3h> :((
[05:52] <Roconda> longwave: ok sec... got more cds
[05:53] <Dr4g> prox3h, your call but you might not get help when you return
[05:53] <Dr4g> whats more important, fixing ubuntu, or a cig
[05:53] <prox3h> im still here
[05:53] <squidgy> taw:  if it is indeed a DNS problem, this implies that it's upstream of me (at my ISP) and that there's not nothing I can do to fix it, correct?
[05:53] <jereth_da_lion> is it possible to make a cd to boot tnto a hard drive installation ?
[05:53] <prox3h> fixin this
[05:53] <prox3h> tbh
[05:53] <prox3h> wanna get it done
[05:53] <prox3h> :D
[05:54] <prox3h> ok so what next then? :)
[05:54] <c|int> hey guys, I am having absolutely, no luck with my wireless card on ubuntu at all, and I have tried everything, only thing I got 1 time, is with antho etc.. guy
[05:54] <Dr4g> !patience
[05:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:54] <taw> squidgy: you can add an entry to /etc/hosts as a quick fix ;-p
[05:54] <k31th> Guys im building an array here using software raid. raid1 using two sata 250 gig disks... its going very slow 1004k/sec
[05:54] <k31th> any idea why so slow ?
[05:54] <Snake007uk> how on earth can i turn off the shiftbackspace key combo killing X?
[05:55] <c|int> I have been trying to have wireless on linux, since last year when I got the laptop and Acer really and broadcom. disappoint me
[05:55] <Dr4g> prox3h, try "sudo chown /mnt/nix/home/proxy/.dmrc"
[05:55] <Dr4g> -
[05:55] <k31th> the drives are using udma6* amd 64bit cpu
[05:55] <prox3h> missing operand again m8
[05:55] <Dr4g> k
[05:55] <Bergcube> jereth_da_lion~  You can do that with the Live Ubuntu CD and chroot from it.  (Every time I've used chroot it's been while reading a howto so that's all the help I can offer.)
[05:55] <Dr4g> "sudo chmod 644 /mnt/nix/home/dr4g/.dmrc"
[05:55] <Dr4g> prox3h,
[05:55] <c|int> can anyone help me..
[05:55] <c|int> plz
[05:56] <longwave> Snake007uk: in your X config file, add Option "DontZap" "True" to the ServerFlags section
[05:56] <c|int> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:56] <SuperMoonMan> would someone mind taking a minute to help me figure this out?
[05:56] <jereth_da_lion> crroot?
[05:56] <jereth_da_lion> please explain ?
[05:56] <prox3h> chmod: cannot access '/mnt ....' : No such file or directory
[05:56] <c|int> why couldn't of been an ahteros, or ralink.. wy why :(
[05:56] <vpenafab> ol.a
[05:56] <Dr4g> your typing it wrong
[05:56] <vpenafab> ola
[05:56] <anTiX_> hi! I'd like to remove a physical volume from my LVM... but I just get "Physical volume /dev/hdb not found" when running "sudo pvmove /dev/hdb". any ideas? it does exist when I check with fdisk..
[05:56] <Dr4g> type "cd /mnt/" and then do a "ls"
[05:57] <Dr4g> prox3h,
[05:57] <longwave> c|int: what have you done so far to try and get it working?
[05:57] <prox3h> done
[05:57] <prox3h> in /mnt
[05:57] <longwave> c|int: have you installed the bcm43xx firmware, for example?
[05:57] <Dr4g> is "nix" there ?
[05:57] <prox3h> yes
[05:57] <jorge232> how can i install kubuntu from ubuntu? isn't there a simple ne command?
[05:57] <Dr4g> ok
[05:57] <c|int> pretty much everything.. I erased my hard drive and all, not even running windows no more, only vmware, etc
[05:57] <Bergcube> jereth_da_lion~  chroot is a bash command to "move" the running system.  From the CD you can do chroot <something> to starts running the system on the HD instead........
[05:57] <Roconda> Hey, when I install (k)ubuntu on a computer I got (Uncompressing Linux ... crc error -- System halted) someone knows a solution? (its not my cd)
[05:57] <c|int> yep
[05:57] <Dr4g> "cd nix/home/proxy" prox3h
[05:57] <prox3h> uhuh
[05:57] <c|int> also, my wireless is named, eth0, and my ethernet is , eth1
[05:57] <longwave> c|int: so what errors are you getting, or what isn't working?
[05:57] <Bergcube> jereth_da_lion~  But as I said, I have only used it off howtos, so I don't really master it.  Yet.  I hope.
[05:57] <jereth_da_lion> ok ok
[05:58] <Dr4g> prox3h, "sudo chown .dmrc"
[05:58] <oskude> Roconda: so the "check cd" option on the cd said its ok ?
[05:58] <c|int> I tried taht extractino thing, with the fwcutter, and that didn't work for me
[05:58] <jereth_da_lion> so it can be done from within the live cd enviroment
[05:58] <longwave> jorge232: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:58] <prox3h> still getting a missing operand
[05:58] <jereth_da_lion> but you dont know the command line ..
[05:58] <prox3h> after .dmrc
[05:58] <Roconda> oskude: cds are ok
[05:58] <c|int> been trying all kinds of stuff, maybe ndiswrapper could work , if I could get some help, as an IT I really need this communication
[05:58] <Dr4g> hmmm ok
[05:58] <squidgy> taw:  thanks for the suggestions.  I added google entries to /etc/hosts, but no dice.  I'm going to go do some sniffing.
[05:58] <c|int> thanks longwave
[05:58] <Dr4g> iny your $HOME dir, type "ls -a" is .dmrc there ?
[05:58] <gatekeeper> jorge232: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_KDE
[05:59] <Roconda> oskude: I got ubuntu already installed but when I boot I got a kernel panic
[05:59] <taw> squidgy: all possible google entries :-) ?
[05:59] <Snake007uk> longwave: server flags isnt there ?
[05:59] <Bergcube> jereth_da_lion~  Exactly!  So that's your homework assignment for tomorrow.  :-D
[05:59] <prox3h> no
[05:59] <prox3h> just Desktop
[05:59] <prox3h> if im doing it right lol
[05:59] <oskude> Roconda: exact error would be helpfull
[05:59] <prox3h> cd /home
[05:59] <taw> squidgy: google.com www.google.com google.<your country> www.google.<your country> and whatever google may get idea to redirect you to ?
[05:59] <longwave> Snake007uk: then add a ServerFlags section using Section and EndSection in the same way as the other Sections
[05:59] <c|int> I know the 1 I got, alot of users are having a big problem with,
[05:59] <Dr4g> wrong !!!
[05:59] <prox3h> ah
[05:59] <prox3h> lol
[05:59] <Dr4g> cd /mnt/nix/hoe
[05:59] <Dr4g> home*
[05:59] <prox3h> no just proxy
[06:00] <taw> squidgy: you can always try tcpdump -i any port 53  -v -v (or whatever were the right flags)
[06:00] <Dr4g> cd proxy
[06:00] <Dr4g> ls -a
[06:00] <c|int> not having wireless, and having a nice laptop , with wireless suppport, and running linux, and not being able to enjoy that feature, is depressing
[06:00] <prox3h> - --
[06:00] <sorush20> is there an incermental backup software anywehere
[06:00] <Dr4g> no files ?
[06:00] <prox3h> no
[06:00] <prox3h> just little dashes
[06:00] <squidgy> taw:  yes, minus the my country bits since I'm in the U.S.
[06:00] <longwave> sorush20: rdiff-backup, maybe?
[06:00] <c|int> I have a  workstation as well, thats no problem for me to figure things out.. however, with the wireless, and college, thats a must.. only thing in my way
[06:01] <Bonez56> is anyone here able to help with FreeNX?
[06:01] <Dr4g> prox3h, you have the worst PC ever !! lol
[06:01] <jereth_da_lion> thanks for the help ill keep trying
[06:01] <prox3h> lol
[06:01] <Dr4g> I've never had any errors like this
[06:01] <c|int> longwave: , do you think you could help me bud
[06:01] <prox3h> it just doens't like me man
[06:01] <prox3h> thats all
[06:02] <Dr4g> Ofcourse it does. :)
[06:02] <prox3h> </3
[06:02] <prox3h> lol
[06:02] <Dr4g> Someone please convince prox3h to use Ubuntu, rather than windows XP
[06:02] <Roconda> oskude: savedefaulf boot Uncompressing Linux... crc error -- System halted
[06:02] <Dr4g> for the rest of his life.
[06:02] <longwave> c|int: i have the same chipset but a different model, once i extracted the firmware with fwcutter and installed it, it worked for me..
[06:02] <prox3h> i will if i can get it fixed
[06:02] <prox3h> :P
[06:02] <longwave> c|int: did fwcutter fail or does it not work with the extracted firmware?
[06:02] <oskude> Roconda: hmm, maybe chech hd and ram for errors...
[06:03] <c|int> not for me, I got that error,  Sorry, it's not posible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode11.fw"
[06:03] <c|int> Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one.
[06:03] <Dr4g> prox3h, your problem is.. your supposed to have a $HOME dir upon install. and you didnt... which is wierd
[06:03] <prox3h> lol ok
[06:03] <c|int>  Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment.
[06:03] <Dr4g> any ideas anyone ??? ^^^^
[06:03] <c|int> I want to shoot broadcom.. :)
[06:04] <c|int> and right now, I don't have the money, just to go out, and get that nice. Belkin Pre-N ,or other model :-)
[06:04] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: prox3h reinstall ?
[06:04] <prox3h> what will i do then? :)
[06:04] <longwave> c|int: you don't need microcode11, you just need the other files it creates
[06:04] <c|int> I guess that firmware is wrong
[06:04] <prox3h> i've installed 3 times gatekeeper
[06:04] <prox3h> lol
[06:04] <Dr4g> tep
[06:04] <Dr4g> yep
[06:04] <mcphail> Belkin sell a lot of rebadged broadcom gear
[06:04] <c|int> well I was following what sites and ubuntu forums were saying
[06:04] <c|int> ah :)
[06:05] <gatekeeper> prox3h: you have downloaded an iso from the net?
[06:05] <longwave> c|int: just carry on with those instructions, copy the firmware files it did make to /lib/firmware and so on
[06:05] <prox3h> yes from ubuntu.com
[06:05] <c|int> can u guys help me, I have my drivers, and site if ou need.. :|
[06:05] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, i have installed ubuntu loads of times, i done it on his machine "witout interruption of any other partitions"..
[06:05] <c|int> it didn't put them in there there
[06:05] <longwave> c|int: microcode11 is not yet used by the bcm43xx driver as far as i know
[06:05] <Dr4g> And every time he gets error upon login... "www.uk8bc.co.uk/proxy-errors.txt"
[06:05] <SuperMoonMan> is anyone available to help me with this issue of hanging during the boot
[06:05] <Dr4g> gatekeeper ^^^^
[06:05] <thegoldenaura> in ubuntu6.06 server version i have already done "apt-get install xserver-xorg" but it does not work, any howto about this? Thanks
[06:06] <longwave> c|int: "sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware /path/to/bcmwl5.sys" should write the files to the right place
[06:06] <c|int> oh okay
[06:06] <Bergcube> thegoldenaura~  Are you doing that because you want a GUI on your server?
[06:06] <c|int> where should I put my drivers
[06:06] <thegoldenaura> Bergcube: yes i want
[06:06] <oskude> thegoldenaura: define "does not work"
[06:07] <longwave> c|int: somewhere in your home directory, you can delete them after fwcutter has run anyway
[06:07] <Dr4g> prox3h,  - wanna fix windows for now ?
[06:07] <c|int> k, np
[06:07] <prox3h> aye whatever man i aint too bothered as long as i can go for a cig in the meanwhile =] 
[06:07] <c|int> like with all it came in directory of broadcom.. or just required file
[06:08] <Dr4g> prox3h, type "cd /" then "grub" then "setup(hd0,0)"
[06:08] <gatekeeper> prox3h: Dr4g assuming that you have tested the CD (comes with a self test) then I think this might be a hardware issue, I would run badblocks on you hard disk for starters
[06:08] <Bergcube> thegoldenaura~  Then the package you want (need) is called ubuntu-desktop !
[06:08] <longwave> c|int: i am pretty sure you just need that one .sys file
[06:08] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, i will get prox3h to check CD for errors.
[06:08] <longwave> c|int: but it was a while ago since i ran fwcutter, so i may be wrong :)
[06:08] <Dr4g> However we've burned 3 diff copies
[06:08] <c|int> oh okay
[06:08] <thegoldenaura> Bergcube: I firstly installed Gnome, than did "apt-get install xserver-xorg", and when doing "startx" it gives me: " xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom" ... and then some erros with X11 fonts...
[06:08] <Dr4g> and downloaded the iso's on 2 diff occations
[06:08] <Dr4g> from ubuntu.com
[06:09] <c|int> this 1 here, -> bcmwl5.sys ?
[06:09] <rarj> is there any way to set emacs to read lotus notes emails ?
[06:09] <fusionxn1> If i shout something in the room is that ok?
[06:09] <prox3h> Invalid Device Requested.
[06:09] <longwave> c|int: yes that's it
[06:09] <c|int> K
[06:09] <Dr4g> prox3h, hold on
[06:09] <c|int> OTHER forum post, were talking about inf files too. that don't matter does it
[06:09] <prox3h> okok
[06:09] <bruno> How can i upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06 online
[06:09] <longwave> thegoldenaura: you should probably install ubuntu-desktop, not just the x server
[06:09] <Bergcube> thegoldenaura~  You will save yourself lots of work and greif if you simply get the ubuntu-desktop.  It will have everything needed.
[06:09] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: then possible a hard disk problem, how much space is linux getting?
[06:09] <prox3h> gatekeeper: 30GB
[06:09] <c|int> oh lmao
[06:09] <prox3h> roughly
[06:09] <c|int> it put the files in my home dir,
[06:10] <thegoldenaura> Bergcube: :D thanks man
[06:10] <c|int> o.o
[06:10] <Bergcube> thegoldenaura~  Good luck!
[06:10] <longwave> haha
[06:10] <c|int> the fw's
[06:10] <c|int> o.o
[06:10] <bruno> Thanks guyz
[06:10] <c|int> should I put that.. file though still in home dir
[06:10] <thegoldenaura> Bergcube: i am used to Debian, it is the first time on Ubuntu.... thanks a lot ;)
[06:10] <gatekeeper> prox3h: more than enough, smells like a hardware problem
[06:10] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, 30GB.. and 1GB swap.
[06:10] <Bergcube> thegoldenaura~  NP.
[06:10] <bruno> Can someone give me a URL source for wine
[06:11] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: more than enough, smells like a hardware problem
[06:11] <longwave> c|int: if you have the bcm43xx_microcode files, no, you dont need the windows driver any more, just copy them to /lib/firmware then try "modprobe bcm43xx"
[06:11] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, its like.. he installs and gets these erros, so i mounted and went into /mnt/nix/home/  - and "proxy" user DIR didnt exist
[06:11] <Dr4g> Whats this suggest ?
[06:11] <c|int> Cannot open input file /path/to/bcmwl5.sys
[06:12] <Coffeegrinds> hey guys just a quick lil question.. though i have no problems with either, compatibility wise would i be better off with my voodoo 3 or my ati rage (8mb) < Lovin' the old skool hardware >
[06:12] <c|int> the 1's that were created in my /home dir
[06:12] <c|int> ?
[06:13] <oskude> Coffeegrinds: just a quess, if thats not rage 128, stick to voodoo3... (but i only "know" nvidia)
[06:13] <ben_> Hi all, Question: I've connected to my web hosting using the "connect to server" thing, but all my files on there are read only. is there any way i can change this so i can edit them?
[06:13] <fusionxn1> Is it possible to run .MSI files on ubuntu / linux
[06:13] <longwave> c|int: yes, copy those to /lib/firmware with "sudo cp ~/bcm43xx_microcode* /lib/firmware"
[06:13] <c|int> see what don't make sense, is it didn't put them where it was suppose to be
[06:13] <ompaul> Coffeegrinds, at that age either of them
[06:13] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: not sure may be it tries to create the home directory and can't because it hits a problem on the hdd
[06:13] <longwave> c|int: if you didn't use sudo, the fwcutter can't write to /lib/firmware, so maybe it put them in your home instead
[06:14] <ProN00b> how do i burn an img file ?
[06:14] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: run badblocks on it, see if that tells you anything
[06:14] <danf_1979> can ubuntu server be installed remotely?
[06:14] <ompaul> ProN00b,  dropping it into gnome baker and hitting burn
[06:14] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, for HDD or to check CD ?
[06:14] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: both
[06:15] <ProN00b> ompaul, you sure that will work ?
[06:15] <ben_> Hi all, Question: I've connected to my web hosting using the "connect to server" thing, but all my files on there are read only. is there any way i can change this so i can edit them?
[06:15] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, how can i test HDD from live CD ?
[06:15] <Snake007uk> is there an email alert applet for the panel ?
[06:15] <oskude> danf_1979: i assume thats doable with debootstrap (did that once with debian while back)
[06:15] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: sorry - badblocks for hdd
[06:15] <ompaul> danf_1979, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[06:15] <Dr4g> i know, how do i check this ?
[06:15] <ompaul> ProN00b, I have done it
[06:15] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, ^^^
[06:15] <danf_1979> thanks ompaul... oskude.
[06:16] <ompaul> ProN00b, if however you mean iso file then just right click on it in nautilus and choose write to disk
[06:16] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: run the live cd up then run it from there
[06:16] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, can you elaborate a bit please ?
[06:16] <ompaul> ProN00b, and burn it slowly - that prevents errors
[06:16] <bruno> Hi Guyx,How do i solve this problem:Cannot move "/home/bruno/De.../Mailtool.exe" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[06:17] <oskude> ompaul: which one of these can i use to install ubuntu over shh ?
[06:17] <ben_> Hi all, Question: I've connected to my web hosting using the "connect to server" thing, but all my files on there are read only. is there any way i can change this so i can edit them?
[06:17] <olrrai> hello
[06:17] <NthDegree> img files are like isos, infact many are made in such a way you can burn them by changing the extension to iso :p
[06:17] <ompaul> oskude, I don't know, however I do know methods are listed there
[06:18] <oskude> ompaul: ok...
[06:18] <ompaul> NthDegree, well it could also be img as in image gif / jpeg the question was missing detail
[06:18] <Renan_s2> hello :)
[06:18] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, better question would be "how can i check HDD for badblocks using liveCD?"
[06:18] <NthDegree> yeah true
[06:18] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: boot of the livecd, bring up a terminal then badblock -v /dev/hda (or what ever your hard disk is called) not sure if you would have to mount it
[06:18] <ProN00b> ompaul, its an .img file, and its 2.something in size... gnomebaker warns me that its not a dvd image
[06:19] <Dr4g> ok
[06:19] <NthDegree> ProN00b, try renaming the extension to .iso
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> how can i unisntall perl
[06:19] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, thankyou dude
[06:19] <NthDegree> sometimes that helps
[06:19] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: my typing is hopelss  badblocks -v /dev/hda
[06:19] <Dr4g> ok
[06:19] <olrrai> y have xsane installed but I cant run  sane-find-scanner ? need to install other paquage ?
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> whan i put apt-get delete perl it give me an error missing packages
[06:19] <ProN00b> NthDegree, could it be that its possible to do that when there is no .cue file to it ?
[06:19] <Dr4g> prox3h, is the one with the erros - my install is fine :)
[06:20] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: good luck :-)
[06:20] <Dr4g> its very fishy his PC.
[06:20] <Dr4g> same error, always... diff CD's and such
[06:20] <NthDegree> ProN00b, cue files are unnecessary usually because the burning software can produce one and use it :) as it normally does
[06:20] <NthDegree> brb
[06:20] <c|int> hey guys, I'll just take care of this dam thing, when I get the pcmcia , that is compatible, etc
[06:20] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, i will add you to /notify - this ok ?
[06:20] <Renan_s2> SuperMiguel, why do you want to delete perl?
[06:21] <c|int> I'm going give broadcom a call, and acer, and complain to them , like they never heard
[06:21] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: ok if you want to
[06:21] <ompaul> ProN00b, there there is this:  mkisofs -dvd-video -o dvd.img dvd/
[06:21] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i get glib-gettext for ubuntu? i need it for network manager...
[06:21] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, you seem very knowledgable with ubuntu, i may have more advanced problems myself :)
[06:22] <Dr4g> I'm also loking to get into some Ubuntu development... :)
[06:22] <ompaul> ProN00b, read this page here ofr more dept http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD:Burn
[06:22] <ompaul> Dr4g, #ubuntu-motu is a useful place to start
[06:22] <Dr4g> thankyou - my name is pauol too :)
[06:22] <c|int> the dam stupid fw files.. went to /home/user dir... arghhhhh... so I guess I have to copy each 1 by themselves arghh.. I feel like throwing laptop against the wall
[06:22] <Dr4g> paul
[06:23] <olrrai> I just config /etc/sane.d/canon_pp.conf, but how can I tell the kernet to use it?
[06:23] <Bonez56> does anyone know of a FreeNX client for windows xp that does not need to be installed (i have no admin privilages)
[06:24] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: not that knowledgable only what I have picked up, and the experinces I have had, been using linux for nearly a year, day job is a windows developer
[06:24] <Dr4g> What about the screensaver trick ? :P Bonez56
[06:24] <Bonez56> Dr4g: what screensaver trick? :)
[06:24] <Dr4g> lol
[06:24] <NthDegree> Bonez56, this is an UBUNTU support channel, go to ##windows
[06:24] <Dr4g> ^^ can't answrer, sorry.
[06:24] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, define "windows developer"
[06:25] <ompaul> Bonez56, get a live linux CD and use it
[06:25] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: c++ programmer
[06:25] <Paddy_EIRE> what's the most functional desktop widgets/desklets app for gnome
[06:25] <Dr4g> I also know C++, i'm more experience in C though.
[06:25] <prox3h> :)
[06:25] <olrrai> how can I tell to the kernel to use /etc/sane.d/canon_pp.conf ?
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone still using windows needs to read this asap... http://windowssecrets.com/comp/060629/  Microsoft updates now include spyware which contacts MS every day you use it..
[06:25] <Dr4g> On windows & linux.
[06:25] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, that is offtopic
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> yep.. wrong window
[06:26] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i get glib-gettext for ubuntu? i need it for network manager...
[06:26] <SuperMoonMan> would anyone have any idea as to why I'm not able to get into ubuntu even though the cd boots properly and then I reach the screen with the ubuntu logo and everything loads properly?
[06:26] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, what happens then?
[06:26] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: haven't really had a go at programing in linux, possible when the winter comes, I also want to take a look a gentoo sometime
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> IS there any way to disable the wheel on a mouse just for Konversation?  I keep accidentally changing channels
[06:27] <Dr4g> linux sockets are very fun :)
[06:27] <Dr4g> winsock is bloated.
[06:27] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: it goes to the black screen where it does the little rotating ball cursor and just sits and rotates
[06:27] <Jenkins> Does Netstumbler work on Ubuntu?
[06:27] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: cool :-)
[06:27] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, do you receive PM's ?
[06:27] <miguelgatt> hi i have an ubuntu problem, can anybody help me?
[06:27] <Jenkins> !netstumbler > Jenkins
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about netstumbler  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <c|int> well, maybe broadcom.. and acer, wil have more support, next ubuntu release
[06:27] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, is this from the first isntall?
[06:27] <jbroome> Jenkins: try kismet
[06:27] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, or a NOTICE
[06:27] <prox3h> !ask > miguelgatt
[06:28] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: I've not installed it yet, no
[06:28] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: I have not registered, seem to recieve them, but not sure I can return the favour :-)
[06:28] <Jenkins> jbroome: Is kismet like netstumbler?
[06:28] <Jenkins> !kismet > jenkins
[06:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about kismet  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:28] <jbroome> yes, that's why i suggested it
[06:28] <Jenkins> ok i'll check it out
[06:28] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, what video ram and what processor and ram have you got?
[06:28] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, ./msg nickserv register <pass>
[06:28] <squidgy> taw:  it directs its queries to toolbarqueries.google.com.  Suddenly, for the first time in days, it's responding quickly, so apparenly I spooked the gremlins.  Weird.
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone tell me what the best desktop widget program is
[06:28] <Dr4g> without the . at the start ofcorse :)
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I use gdesklets
[06:29] <miguelgatt> can anyboy help me?
[06:29] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i get glib-gettext for ubuntu? i need it for network manager... it doesn't seem to be in the repos
[06:29] <ompaul> miguelgatt, ask your question of the channel - nobody knows until you actually ask
[06:29] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: fair enough, but don't have a password unless you invent one?
[06:29] <prox3h> miguelgatt: ask the question :P
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > miguelgatt
[06:29] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: p4 processor, 3.2GHz, 1gb ram
[06:29] <squidgy> miguelgatt:  just ask your question
 i have this to, but i was looking for something that reported my local weather and gdesklets one doesnt do this
[06:29] <prox3h> gatekeeper: yeah enter the pass you wanna use
[06:29] <miguelgatt> i have a problem with ubuntu, i have a conceptronic c45rc wireless card, how do i install it?? i cant find drivers anywere
[06:29] <mboso> if i'm logged into a machine remotely via ssh, how can i run an X app so that it appears on the remote machine, and not the machine i'm currently typing on?
[06:29] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, video card?
[06:29] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, yes "register" sets up your PW with nickserv...
[06:30] <Dr4g> type /msg nickserv register <pass>
[06:30] <kurup> hi..am not able to upgrade my dapper to linux-686-smp via apt-get. any solutions?
[06:30] <Dr4g> then /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[06:30] <Dr4g> -
[06:30] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: radeon x300 I think
[06:30] <gatekeeper> prox3h: Dr4g ok thanx guys, see you know more than me :-)
[06:30] <Dr4g> lol :)
[06:30] <prox3h> Dr4g: you dont need to identify if you just registered
[06:30] <prox3h> lol at least i know about something :P
[06:30] <ttyfscker> what is the difference in what mkinitramfs and mkinitrd do?
[06:30] <Dr4g> Being safe than sorry.
[06:31] <miguelgatt> i have a problem with ubuntu, i have a conceptronic c45rc wireless card, how do i install it?? i cant find drivers anywere
[06:31] <jonh_wendell> where can i find a complete reference for APT?
[06:31] <bunta> Lil question, how wud I be able to install kubuntu using a net image? (mini.iso)
[06:31] <Renan_s2> jonh_wendell, man apt
[06:31] <longwave> bunta: install the base packages from that image, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <Renan_s2> and type, 'man apt-get', 'man apt-cache', etc...
[06:31] <bunta> I've tried that
oh, i almost forgot that sudo dpkg -i $x commsnd didnt install anything from my cached apps disc
[06:31] <bunta> Its messed my PC up
[06:31] <kurup> tried adding the repository as mentioned in the unofficial ubuntu guide. yet not able to update.
[06:32] <roler> i use postfix and postgrey. Is there a blacklist file in any of these two programs?
[06:32] <jonh_wendell> i want to learn automatic updating that apt uses...
[06:32] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, registered yet ?
[06:32] <miguelgatt> does anyone no ho to install it?
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: We talked about that yesterday, that was not my suggestion correct?
[06:32] <Renan_s2> miguelgatt, how to install what?
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> you are right that was the other guy
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> sry
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:33] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, that is strange
[06:33] <miguelgatt> i want to install a wireless conceptrnic pcmcia card on ubuntu, i cant find drivers
time to try your suggestion
[06:33] <hussam> how can you tell if /etc/init.d/daemonx is started?
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You didnt use my suggestion because you had made changes after you burned the cd
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> thats right
[06:33] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: tell me about it...I checked the cd for errors and I got nothing
[06:33] <Renan_s2> miguelgatt, I don't know that brand of wireless card :/
[06:33] <danf_1979> ompaul, that net installation guide assumes you'll have a dchp server, no cdrom. Is ther any howto that assumes you could have a cdrom but no dchp server? :)
 maybe i should start again
[06:33] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i get glib-gettext for ubuntu? i need it for network manager... it doesn't seem to be in the repos
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperMoonMan: How did you check it?
[06:34] <miguelgatt> the chipet it uses is c54rc
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Did you write that down
[06:34] <ompaul> danf_1979, that is how most of us install
[06:34] <SuperMoonMan> Jack_Sparrow: I used the check cd for errors thing or whatever it says when the cd boots
[06:34] <SuperMoonMan> for defects*
[06:34] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, try safe grapics mode
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperMoonMan: Just checking..
[06:34] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: tried it, same thing
[06:34] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: yes and I think it's still winging at me
[06:34] <Yoshiball> Hello, I search a .deb for the IDE Code::Blocks to Ubuntu Dapper
[06:34] <Dr4g> winging ?
[06:34] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, dvd or CD?
[06:34] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: cd
[06:35] <Jenkins> Any Other Network Detectors Besides Kismet? Kismet i dont think will work
 no sorry, i didnt even save the transcript niether was a in a rush at the time
[06:35] <danf_1979> the thing is that I want to do a remote installation in a dedicated host. There is no dhcp server, no dinamic ip...
[06:35] <ompaul> SuperMoonMan, guess it is time to burn another CD
[06:35] <oskude> danf_1979: try google for "debian over shh" (or so) that should apply for ubuntu too (if thats what you want to do)
[06:35] <miguelgatt> i want to install a wireless conceptrnic pcmcia card on ubuntu, i cant find drivers
[06:35] <dribble> Yoshiball, I don't think that there is a deb for it, but there are instructions here : http://www.rjpcomputing.com/?page_id=10
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: dpkg --get-packages > out.txt   then <out.txt
[06:35] <Yoshiball> dribble, thanks I look this
[06:35] <SuperMoonMan> ompaul: should I completely redownload the file or just burn the iso again?
[06:36] <danf_1979> ok oskude, thanks
[06:36] <void^> miguelgatt: are you sure it doesn't use an atheros chipset?
[06:36] <Renan_s2> Anybody here has a .deb package for Seamonkey web browser?
[06:36] <miguelgatt> i have no idea
[06:36] <Oni-Dracula> SEA MONKEY!
[06:36] <ompaul> SuperMiguel, md5sum the file that has been downloaded, and burn the next CD really slowly
[06:36] <dribble> Yoshiball, it seems that when you follow the link to the forums, a deb is available.
[06:36] <void^> miguelgatt: just install restricted modules and see if it works
[06:36] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, winging ?
[06:37] <ompaul> SuperMiguel, md5sum is a method for checking file construction is identical to that expected - 99.999% good
[06:37] <miguelgatt> i dont now how to do that, im a newbie when it comes to linux
[06:37] <Dr4g> just make up your own pass: /msg nickserv register <pass>
[06:37] <ompaul> !restricted
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <oskude> danf_1979: this looks good http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[06:37] <ompaul> miguelgatt, read that message from ubotu follow the url you will get there
[06:37] <ben_> Hi all, Question: I've connected to my web hosting using the "connect to server" thing, but all my files on there are read only. is there any way i can change this so i can edit them?
[06:37] <miguelgatt> thanks bro
[06:37] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: complaining gatekeeper already registered
 i keep getting this Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[06:37] <Yoshiball> dribble, Ok but to the forums the deb available is an unstable release
[06:38] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, you've already done it before then ? :)
[06:38] <dribble> Yoshiball, that is true.
[06:38] <danf_1979> I was *starting* read this. It has a good title
[06:38] <danf_1979> http://blog.nanorails.com/articles/2006/07/01/remote-ubuntu-dapper-drake-install
[06:38] <Dr4g>  /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[06:38] <oskude> danf_1979: i found it too right now :)
[06:38] <ben_> Hi all, Question: I've connected to my web hosting using the "connect to server" thing, but all my files on there are read only. is there any way i can change this so i can edit them?
[06:38] <dribble> Yoshiball, it seems that only the nightly builds are available as deb packages
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: What are you typning on the command line
[06:38] <oskude> danf_1979: it links to the howto i posted :)
[06:39] <danf_1979> oh :)
[06:39] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo dpkg --get-packages > out.txt
[06:39] <Renan_s2> !mp3
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <oskude> danf_1979: but i remember using a script, so it was very easy
[06:39] <Yoshiball> dribble, You use Code::Blocks?
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: and it gives you that error?
[06:39] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: think it's working using TheGatekeeper
[06:39] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[06:39] <prox3h> ill bbs guys :D
[06:40] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, cool.
[06:40] <Dr4g> now try to PM me please :)
[06:40] <danf_1979> Ok, yes, thats a good idea. I can code one if I find a proper howto
[06:40] <danf_1979> Ok, I'm out to read
[06:40] <danf_1979> thanks oskude
[06:40] <dribble> Yoshiball, no, but I am familiar with it.
[06:40] <oskude> danf_1979: np, have fun
[06:40] <Paddy_EIRE>  <Jack_Sparrow>patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --get-packages > out.txt
[06:40] <Paddy_EIRE> dpkg: unknown option --get-packages
[06:40] <PingunZ> do I need ppp if I'm conected to the internet with ethernet ? ( xdsl )
[06:41] <miguelgatt> those links have nothing to do with my problem
[06:41] <voraistos> hey, how do i force the live CD eject while using it? (yeah, i need to do that)
[06:41] <Renan_s2> PingunZ, is your DSL modem a router?
[06:41] <PingunZ> yes
[06:41] <ncttv> Hello, I followed the instructions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto) to setup an encrypted partition on my laptop HDD.  It was working very well, but at boot today t I am asked to enter my passphrase and then greeted with "reiserfs_open: the reiserfs superblock cannot be found on /dev/mapper/crypt."  The error goes on (I'll pastebin if neccesary).  It them drops me to a root console (without having
[06:41] <ncttv>  me enter a password, which seems a horrible secirity flaw).  What can I do to restore the partition?
[06:41] <Renan_s2> PingunZ, then you don't need it
[06:41] <Renan_s2> I use a router, works out of the box
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gatekeeper: Why would: dpkg --get-packages > out.txt   give the error Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more
[06:42] <PingunZ> Can someone give me some performance tips for the kernel ( no patches, just guides or things to select/deselect )
[06:42] <stefg> ben_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-42239.html
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> Dr4g: do /join #gatekeeper
[06:42] <miguelgatt> does anybody have an idea of how to install it?
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: My fault... --get-selections
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ahh ok
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Sorry complete brain fart
[06:43] <dribble> i am however, more than impressed with monodevelop for c#/gtk# development
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs, Im learning all the same, love ubuntu
[06:44] <stefg> ncttv: probably your drive has bad sectors. do a fsck
[06:44] <ncttv> stef_, :( It's a brand new hdd.  Is 'fsck' the exact command?
[06:44] <ompaul> stefg, might be worthwhile to say - do a file system check, fsck is the command :)
[06:44] <stefg> ok... i was a bit too lazy
 i have just entered <out.txt
[06:45] <ompaul> ncttv, fsck -y if it is not mounted
[06:45] <ompaul> ncttv, has it any data on it?
[06:45] <ncttv> ompaul, Yes
[06:45] <SonicChao> Is firefox 1.5.0.5 in the repos yet?
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy:  dpkg --get-packages > out.txt   is the entire command line
[06:45] <pike_> miguelgatt: you on an intel processor?
[06:45] <PingunZ> what is PCMIA network, do I need it if I use ethernet ( UTP cable )
[06:46] <stefg> ncttv: even new drives fail... physical shock, or bad manufacturing.
 well then what do i do
[06:46] <miguelgatt> yes
[06:46] <Asc> pinguinz: this thread mentions a few items: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560
[06:46] <ompaul> !away
[06:46] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:46] <miguelgatt> pink_: yes
[06:46] <ncttv> I got an error saying the superblock could not be read.
[06:46] <SonicChao> !info firefox
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Did it finish creating the out.txt file?
[06:46] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB
[06:46] <hussam> I need to remove a package and then reinstall it. but it won't remove because of dependency stuff. how do I remove it?
[06:46] <SonicChao> Ok, not yet then. =)
[06:46] <miguelgatt> pike_: yes
[06:46] <Asc> pinguinz: I find it's handy to disable what I know I'm not going to use.  ISDN, radio cards, that sort of thing.
[06:47] <lbukowski> elo
 it must have it just when on to the next line whenever i pressed enter
[06:47] <Asc> (not that I'm any sort of an authority on the subject)
[06:47] <lbukowski> wiecie
[06:47] <SonicChao> lbukowski: Hi.
[06:47] <pike_> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[06:47] <PingunZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1174954&postcount=507
[06:47] <lbukowski> jak zalogowac sie do gadu-gadu
[06:47] <ompaul> !pl
[06:47] <PingunZ> I'm following that
[06:47] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:47] <ompaul> lbukowski, this is an english language channel
[06:48] <pike_> miguelgatt:  put a space between the two package names
[06:48] <Asc> ah, that's a more complete version of the same list
[06:48] <miguelgatt> what package names?
[06:48] <PingunZ> but when I use UTP ethernet do I need PCMIA network then ?
[06:48] <andareil> hey, anyone here with some expertise regarding grub?
[06:48] <ompaul> pike_, care to move miguelgatt to #ubuntu-classroom designed for those long conversations :-)
[06:48] <pike_> miguelgatt: linux-image and linux-restricted
[06:48] <stefg> !anyone > andareil
[06:49] <pike_> ompaul: k
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  Once you do the install on the other machine use    <out.txt to install everything
[06:49] <ncttv> stefg, Well, do you think I ought to pursue a refund while I'm (hopefully) within the warranty?
 how do u mean where is it
[06:49] <miguelgatt> ok  so how do i use them?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Check home folder
[06:49] <stefg> ncttv: first find out /if/ it is a hardware fault. If it is.. yes... bad drive, get another one
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> I'll look to see where it might be.
[06:49] <PingunZ> !grub
[06:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:50] <ncttv> stefg, fsck returned a superblock could not be read error.
found it, how do i use this to install everything
[06:50] <stefg> uhuh
[06:50] <andareil> I got some problems where grub does not install on my system and I cannot boot ubuntu
[06:50] <stefg> ncttv: do you have a live cd ready?
[06:50] <ncttv> stefg, Yes
[06:51] <jonh_wendell> How can i know the last time the apt database was updated? (or: When did i run apt-get update?)
[06:51] <Spec> ncttv: you want to test your harddrive?
[06:51] <pike_> miguelgatt: im in ubuntu-classroom type /join ubuntu-classroom
[06:51] <Spec> ncttv: http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/wiki/HDTest   <-- good ways to test harddrive
[06:51] <ncttv> Spec, I'll look into it, thanks.
[06:51] <stefg> ncttv: My advice would be to boot from the Live CD, check the harddrive from there and backing up immediatly if it turns out to be a bad drive
[06:52] <ncttv> stefg, Alright, will do
[06:52] <ncttv> Thanks
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You will find it in /home/"User Name"
[06:52] <jaras> does anyone know if it's posible to get monodevelop 0.11 on ubuntu?
[06:53] <andareil> are there any issues regarding grub if u install on 2 hds
[06:53] <necrite> hi
[06:53] <jonh_wendell> any help?
[06:53] <aninhumer> I'm having problems with my sound card
[06:53] <jonh_wendell>  How can i know the last time the apt database was updated? (or: When did i run apt-get update?)
[06:53] <necrite> anyone here install zend studio in one amd 64? :S
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  Copy to the other machine and run   dpkg --get-selections < out.txt
[06:53] <fusionxn1> Can ubuntu displayer in 1650x1080?
[06:53] <stefg> !sound > aninhumer
[06:53] <fusionxn1> display*
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1: Only if your monitor and vid card can
[06:54] <fusionxn1> Jack - both do
 nice one
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  Are you happy camper now?
[06:54] <hbi> hey i need someones help... i need to change the kismet config file but i dont have write permissions how do i bypass it?
[06:54] <Terminus> andareil: didn't have any. i've got winxp on hda and ubuntu on hdb.
[06:55] <Terminus> hbi: sudo?
[06:55] <hbi> how tho?
[06:55] <Terminus> hbi: what text editor are you comfortable with?
 thats a great way to do it, does this include all those dependencies and the like
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[06:55] <thoreauputic> jonh_wendell: ls -ld /var/cache/apt/archives and check the time stamp
[06:55] <hbi> well i used gedit but that said i didnt have permission to ovewrite the file
[06:56] <Terminus> hbi: gksudo gedit
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi: that is why you sudo gedit
[06:56] <fusionxn1> Anyone know if wine can install .MSI files
 is there a way i can force it to install even if it thinks all the dependencies arent met
[06:56] <Terminus> Jack_Sparrow: gksudo for X apps. :)
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa..
[06:56] <hbi> confused
[06:56] <Bonez56> polony and ketchup rocks
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: It should do everything, if not come back with whatever the prob may be
[06:57] <hbi> is gk sudo an app?
[06:57] <Bonez56> hey redrum_ - up early or late night?
[06:57] <Terminus> hbi: open a terminal and type "gksudo gedit /path/to/file/to/edit"
[06:57] <fusionxn1> Noone?
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi CLI gksudo gedit
[06:57] <Terminus> without the quotes of course.
[06:57] <PingunZ> du I use ISDN when I have ADSL ?
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi: from terminal
thx for your time and patience man top stuff :)
[06:57] <oskude> i thought gksudo is just a graphical window asking for the password, you can use sudo for X apps too..
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: np glad to help
[06:57] <jesspher> hi
[06:58] <hbi> kk gimme a sec ill try Terminus method
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: SOmetimes stretched a little thin
[06:58] <jesspher> does anybody know if wine works better with unbuntu 6.06
[06:58] <jesspher> please help
[06:58] <Terminus> oskude: forgot the reason why but people suggest using gksudo if it's a gui app.
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Terminus: Safety
[06:58] <andareil> terminus:I got partitions for ubuntu on both hds, I split them, now grub wont boot
[06:58] <PingunZ> do I use ISDN when I have ADSL ?
[06:58] <Terminus> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but the exact reason why it's safer is what i don't know.
[06:58] <GnarusLeo> PingunZ, umm .. no?
[06:58] <GnarusLeo> PingunZ, ISDN is a dialup
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Terminus: That is why we have Google
[06:59] <PingunZ> GnarusLeo, ty ;)
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Terminus: using sudo can reset the permissions on ~/.Xauthority
[06:59] <SkeeLow> does ubuntu support x86_64 ??
[06:59] <jesspher> does wine work better with ubuntu 6.06
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Terminus: and/or ~/.ICEauthority
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher: Better than what?
[06:59] <jesspher> ubuntu 5.10
[06:59] <Terminus> andareil: oh, two different ubuntu installs? you might have to boot from a livecd and chroot and grub-install.
[07:00] <redman276> i installed some wifi packages into reg ubuntu  when i rebooted it came up as  edubuntu and i lost my  ability to see my network drives  in the  local  windows  smb network called  MSHOME  , it  did work before the wifi pacages were installed
[07:00] <help-the-n00b> mv samus.jpeg .samus.jpeg
[07:00] <Terminus> thoreauputic: i see. thanks. :)
[07:00] <help-the-n00b> does that hide it?
[07:00] <Terminus> hbi: yes.
[07:00] <Terminus> i mean help-the-n00b
[07:00] <Terminus> hehe
[07:00] <gleesond> is there a command to restart x?
[07:00] <Terminus> stupid tab complete.
[07:00] <Terminus> gleesond: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[07:00] <thoreauputic> Terminus: it seems to happen mostly with KDE apps though ( never seen it with gedit and other gnome apps )
[07:00] <help-the-n00b> Ok. Thanks. Is there a reload terminal command?
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gleesond: KEy combo...
i no what you mean, im trying to eventually get into webdesign and perhaps programming
[07:01] <oskude> gleesond: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:01] <Terminus> thoreauputic: then again, doesn't kubuntu use kdesu instead?
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  Check out RealBasic and Kbasic for Linux as a start..
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Both are free
[07:01] <redman276> is there anyway to fix  my  network browsability ?
[07:01] <thoreauputic> Terminus: yes, correct
[07:01] <andareil> Terminus:not 2 but one, whose partitions are split on 2 hds, I tried grub-install but it doesn't find the linux system
[07:01] <Terminus> thoreauputic: oh, you meant sudo. i got confused a bit there. hehe
I will check these out thanks for the suggestions
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[07:01] <hbi> Terminus that method worked thanks :)
[07:02] <Terminus> andareil: where's root and /boot? hda or hdb?
[07:02] <Terminus> hbi: you're welcome. :)
[07:02] <andareil> hda
[07:02] <help-the-n00b> Yay! It's hidden! How do I view hidden files?
[07:02] <Terminus> help-the-n00b: ls -a
[07:02] <hbi> now i have to figure out what driver it is fore a senao 2511 CD EXT 2
[07:03] <help-the-n00b> What?
[07:03] <help-the-n00b> How does it wokr?
[07:03] <andareil> Terminus: hda i usually put up a /boot part And / is also on the same disk
[07:03] <help-the-n00b> Work.*
[07:03] <Terminus> andareil: anyway, looks like you're gonna need a live cd and run grub-install again.
[07:03] <SkeeLow> does ubuntu support x86_64 ??
[07:03] <Terminus> SkeeLow: yes.
[07:03] <andareil> even if i do a reinstall it still does not work
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> andareil:  THe Super Grub Disk works wonders for that problem
[07:03] <prox3h> gatekeeper: hey man i checked my CD for defects and its telling me that there were 0 failed checksums....
[07:04] <help-the-n00b> mkdir.dir makes a hidden directory?
[07:04] <Terminus> help-the-n00b: you type it in a terminal.
[07:04] <andareil> Jack_Sparrow:where can i get that?
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[07:04] <b1shop> can you get straight to the installer via live cd?
[07:04] <help-the-n00b> I know. Can you translate the commands?
[07:04] <prox3h> gatekeeper: Dr4g hey man i checked my CD for defects and its telling me that there were 0 failed checksums....
[07:04] <Terminus> help-the-n00b: you forgot the space. mkdir .dir
[07:04] <help-the-n00b> Like explain the.
[07:04] <SkeeLow> what are my options for switching over from centos to ubuntu over network??
[07:04] <b1shop> i'm missing options to create LVM;s with the liveCD installer!?
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> andareil: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-file_galleries.php
[07:04] <Dr4g> prox3h, wierd
[07:04] <help-the-n00b> Oh. Space. Does it still work though
[07:04] <help-the-n00b> ?
[07:04] <hbi> does any1 know witht he kismet source do i link it to the source of the drivers for my card?
[07:04] <prox3h> indeed.
[07:05] <ciplogic> why can X server say that have that error: "cannot load NVIDIA kernel module"
[07:05] <Terminus> b1shop: use the alternate cd.
[07:05] <andareil> Jack_Sparrow: thanks will see if it works
[07:05] <Terminus> help-the-n00b: yes.
[07:05] <b1shop> Terminus: grr.  more crap to d/l.  lol.  thanks
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> andareil: Hope it does, please let us know
[07:05] <gatekeeper> prox3h: what about your hdd?
[07:05] <help-the-n00b> K.
[07:05] <Terminus> b1shop: lol. you should have read the descriptions before you downloaded. :p
[07:05] <prox3h> still to be tested
[07:05] <prox3h> =[
[07:05] <help-the-n00b> Terminus, How do you talk to me that way? With my name?
[07:05] <c|int> longwave: , it did
[07:06] <ciplogic> (the module should be compiled!? )
[07:06] <hbi> TomB is that TomB from hak5 irc?
[07:06] <prox3h> there's a problem with that though
[07:06] <ciplogic> (someone told me that should be the problem)
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: Use tab to complete
[07:06] <c|int> shouldn't my wireless lan ,be, wlan0 though
[07:06] <help-the-n00b> like this?
[07:06] <help-the-n00b> Nope. Didn't work.
[07:06] <c|int> man, I swear, I'm going to this orientatino today, and if I dont' get a job, I"m going rambo mil style all the way
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: Start typing then tab
[07:06] <Terminus> help-the-n00b: i type the first few letters of your name and press tab. try to do that all the time. it helps keep track of whose talking to who in a busy channel. :)
[07:06] <prox3h> help-the-n00b: type the first few letters of the alias
[07:06] <prox3h> then hit tab
[07:07] <help-the-n00b> prox3h,
[07:07] <Terminus> help-the-n00b: especially with clients that do nick highlighting. :)
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: To continue a conversation just hit tab to bring up last name
[07:07] <prox3h> hehe
[07:07] <help-the-n00b> Terminus, ??
[07:07] <oskude> ciplogic: did you install nvidia-glx ?
[07:07] <c|int> longwave: ?
[07:07] <help-the-n00b> Do't get it.
[07:07] <ciplogic> oskude: yes
[07:07] <hbi> wow the monitor fades to black when uve been away too long
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: What IRC prog are you using
[07:07] <help-the-n00b> X-chat.
[07:07] <oskude> ciplogic: and you changed "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf ? and what is your card/chip ?
[07:07] <ciplogic> oskude: I've installed then an upgrade to ubuntu from GNOME 2.14.0 to GNOME 2.14.2
[07:07] <aiscript> hi am form thai YoYo!!!
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi: screensaver
[07:07] <hbi> i no
[07:07] <hbi> b ut
[07:07] <hbi> its just fun
[07:08] <help-the-n00b> It's from Ubuntu by default.
[07:08] <ciplogic> oskude: yes, it is abot NVIDIA module
[07:08] <ciplogic> oskude: nvidia fx 5200
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b:  It still has a name  Xchat..  Gaim..
[07:08] <c|int> any help plz
[07:08] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: done the msn thing says you are offline
[07:08] <oskude> ciplogic: was that first install, or did it worked earlier ?
[07:08] <help-the-n00b> Xchat.
[07:08] <help-the-n00b> Should I use Gaim?
[07:08] <ciplogic> oskude: probably is a problem that maiboard is nforce 3?
[07:08] <ciplogic> oskude: it doesn't work after the upgrade
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: I use Konversation, it is a personal choice thing
[07:08] <c|int> if I can't get this, maybe I should try my luck with ndisrwapper.. heh
[07:08] <hbi> xchat is better than gnome xchat imo
[07:09] <Terminus> ciplogic: i think it didn't load the kernel module.
[07:09] <help-the-n00b> Oh. Ok.
[07:09] <help-the-n00b> Is there a make a new file command?
[07:09] <a2xm> hi all, I've read on ubuntu.com that 6.06 has supported opera browser and can install it from add/remove application. but i can't find it.
[07:09] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, i'm not
[07:09] <ciplogic> Terminus, oskude: I think the same, but I don't know how to load it
[07:09] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  touch <filename>
[07:09] <help-the-n00b> like <command> file.txt
[07:09] <Dr4g> gatekeeper, i added you also
[07:09] <help-the-n00b> Touch?
[07:09] <Terminus> ciplogic: what kernel version are you using right now and what does dpkg -l|grep linux-restricted return?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: makes a new file
[07:09] <jonah1980> hi, just added a second hardrive to my system, rebooted into ubuntu but can't mount it or do anything much with it. can anyone advise me please?
[07:09] <hbi> any1 here got any knowledge on setting up kismet
[07:09] <oskude> ciplogic: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log could help
[07:10] <ciplogic> Let me look... :)
[07:10] <Terminus> a2xm: you need to add the canonical repos
[07:10] <ciplogic> Someone install me the system
[07:10] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: you don't often need the touch command though
[07:10] <buntu418> hey i hav installed ubuntu and am trying to use amarok.. but it cant play mp3 files.. it goes thru the play list in seconds..plss help? what mite be wrong?
[07:10] <help-the-n00b> Ehy not?
[07:10] <a2xm> Terminus: how is it?
[07:10] <help-the-n00b> Why.*
[07:10] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: does it think I am offline too?
[07:10] <Dr4g> yes
[07:10] <ciplogic> Terminus: I sow a lot of kernels
[07:10] <oskude> ciplogic: so, to get this correct, you had nvidia working, then you did update (with "official" repos) and it stopped working ?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: because normally if you are making a new file the app does it for you
[07:10] <Terminus> a2xm: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[07:11] <prox3h> i wish i could get this mofo working properly =[
[07:11] <a2xm> Terminus: thanks
[07:11] <ciplogic> oskude: i haven't update the system, the person that installs me ubuntu does that
[07:11] <help-the-n00b> I didn't have an app open.
[07:11] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: e.g. "Save As"
[07:11] <ciplogic> He told me that I need to update
[07:11] <Terminus> a2xm: np.
[07:11] <ciplogic> but today doesn't work (after end the download and install the update)
[07:11] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: why do you need a new file?
[07:11] <Enverex> hmmm, autopackage seems really cool. How come more programs (high level like games and applications) don't use it? (rather than just having the source or an RPM)
[07:11] <ciplogic> I say the bigger version of the linux-kernel?
[07:11] <oskude> ciplogic: then tell us how you updated (where you using breezy?)
[07:11] <a2xm> Terminus: btw, what inside your application>system tools ?
[07:11] <help-the-n00b> So I can store data.
[07:11] <nyc-h0st> hello everyone, i need a recomendation, i need a tool that would let me administer apache, mysql, dns, ftp all in one, preferably written in php
[07:11] <nyc-h0st> any recomendations
[07:12] <help-the-n00b> I think that's why we all use them. :P
[07:12] <Terminus> ciplogic: what's the result of uname -r? there should be a matching version with linux-restricted. if not, you need to install the modules.
[07:12] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: such as?
[07:12] <ciplogic> 2.6.17-5-k7 seems to be biggest
[07:12] <buntu418> hey i hav installed ubuntu and am trying to use amarok.. but it cant play mp3 files.. it goes thru the play list in seconds..plss help? what mite be wrong?
[07:12] <help-the-n00b> text
[07:12] <buntu418> plss help me
[07:12] <apoka> Hi
[07:12] <a2xm> Terminus: mine is only Configuration Editor. is it right?
[07:12] <ciplogic> Terminus: that it is (2.6.17-K7)
[07:12] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: normally storing data doesn't require explixitly making a new file :)
[07:12] <NthDegree> buntu418, you need mp3 codecs
[07:12] <help-the-n00b> Why not?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> *explicitly
[07:12] <help-the-n00b> How would I do it then?
[07:12] <Terminus> a2xm: a lot of kde stuff and language support. =D
[07:13] <Bonez56> !restrictedformats > buntu418
[07:13] <buntu418> NthDegree: i am very new to ubuntu.. where can i get those
[07:13] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: tell us what you are doing and we can tell you how
[07:13] <apoka> buntu418, You are install Automatix
[07:13] <NthDegree> !restricted > buntu418
[07:13] <oskude> ciplogic: thats not very updated kernel :/
[07:13] <help-the-n00b> I wanted to make a text file to backup my password.
[07:13] <fusionxn1> How do I install KDE install messenger i ran ./configure what i do from there? Cant find anyhelp on their site
[07:13] <Terminus> ciplogic: how come you have a 2.6.17 kernel? newest i have here is 2.6.15-26-k7
[07:13] <ciplogic> oskude: what means that?
[07:13] <apoka> There are since install mp3 is very easy
[07:13] <gatekeeper> buntu418: are you using the xine engine?
[07:13] <NthDegree> you should have a PM from the bot called ubotu buntu418
[07:13] <oskude> ciplogic: youre propably not using dapper
[07:13] <ciplogic> Terminus: what should mean that?
[07:14] <ciplogic> oskude: the same question :)
[07:14] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  echo paasword >> newfile
[07:14] <thoreauputic> *password
[07:14] <help-the-n00b> What?
[07:14] <ciplogic> oskude: how do I test that I use dapper or I doesn't
[07:14] <buntu418> NthDegree> thanks got the pm
[07:14] <ciplogic> oskude: for sure the CD is the last one (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS)
[07:14] <buntu418> gatekeeper> yeah am using xine
[07:14] <Terminus> ciplogic: what does lsb_release -a tell you?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: *cough*  just test it like this:  echo "foo" >> bar && cat bar
[07:15] <help-the-n00b> How does that work?
[07:15] <oskude> ciplogic: hmm, i think there was something... look if you have dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <ciplogic> Ubuntu edgy
[07:15] <ciplogic> Is not dapper
[07:15] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: it puts the text you are echoing into a file
[07:15] <oskude> ciplogic: :/
[07:15] <a2xm> Terminus: i believe there's someting wrong with mine. because i can't find QTparted anywhere.
[07:15] <Terminus> ciplogic: go to #ubuntu+1, they might be able to help you there.
[07:15] <help-the-n00b> A file called what?
[07:15] <NthDegree> buntu418, linux is free and despite not having to pay for MP3s they are so heavily patented that in order to legally use them is hell
[07:15] <apoka> thoreauputic, save a password in a text file don't is a danger?
[07:15] <gatekeeper> buntu418: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:16] <oskude> ciplogic: edgy is the next version of ubuntu and is atm under development, so it may be broke
[07:16] <ciplogic> thank you, the person updates to me to the last Ubuntu!?
[07:16] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: whatever you call it - "bar" in the example above
[07:16] <Terminus> ciplogic: that version hasn't been released yet. it's scheduled to be released in october.
[07:16] <thoreauputic> apoka: of course it is, yes
[07:16] <help-the-n00b> what was the && and the cat bar
[07:16] <ciplogic> Terminus: what I should do then? How to I downgrade the Ubuntu?
[07:16] <Terminus> a2xm: you have to install it.
[07:16] <help-the-n00b> Is it saved in thge directory I'm using?
[07:16] <gatekeeper> NthDegree: you can still play them
[07:16] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  && means "only do the following if the first part worked without error"
[07:16] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: Are trying to copy the password to a file after someone else logs in ?
[07:17] <Terminus> ciplogic: no idea. i'd just reinstall.
[07:17] <Bonez56> ciplogic: you can't, you have to do a fresh install from dapper cd
[07:17] <help-the-n00b> No.
[07:17] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: cat bar means show the contents of file "bar"
[07:17] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: Just checking
[07:17] <buntu418> gatekeeper> will try tht and see... now updating
[07:17] <Enverex> Are the packages available for Ubuntu growing at a fast rate or slowly? It seemed odd how many packages were available for Ubuntu compared to Gentoo with Ubuntu having so many more users...
[07:17] <help-the-n00b> Oh.
[07:17] <oskude> ciplogic: i would install new with the dapper cd (or maybe try to do new sources.list for dapper and do apt-get dist-upgrade)
[07:17] <help-the-n00b> Ok. Thanks.
[07:17] <jonah1980> is it not mounting cos it needs to be ext2 and not ext3?
[07:17] <Jack_Sparrow> help-the-n00b: Open a word processor and save it in a doc..
[07:17] <help-the-n00b> Does it save the file to the dir I'm in?
[07:17] <ciplogic> oskude: sounds ok...
[07:17] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: yes
[07:17] <ciplogic> oskude: anyway for start I will ask help from the same teammate :)
[07:18] <hbi> woo fixed my kismet :D
[07:18] <oskude> ciplogic: you could try dist-upgrade first, and when it doesnt work, install new
[07:18] <hbi> good old forums
[07:18] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: but saving a password inm clear text is kind of silly
[07:18] <a2xm> Terminus: all of them already check marked in the Applications>Add/Remove Applications>System Tools
[07:18] <NthDegree> gatekeeper, yes I know that (not stupid) but in order to be legal you actually have to have a "decoding" license or something on that line which is why it isn't officially supported by canonical
[07:18] <sorush20> why isn't my .Trash folder emptied when I empty my Trash Bin?
[07:18] <Terminus> a2xm: well, i don't use qtparted so i don't know, but they probably didn't make a menu entry for it.
[07:18] <ciplogic> Thank you for help, is a great start anyway!
[07:18] <cello_rasp> hi, i've just installed ubuntu on mac, but i am stuck on the yaboot screen
[07:19] <oskude> ciplogic: as i first started with linux, i installed it again and  again for weeks :)
[07:19] <gatekeeper> NthDegree: whatever floats your boat
[07:19] <cello_rasp> can anyone help me with yaboot
[07:19] <help-the-n00b> So.... cd~/Desktop                then.... eco foo >> file         saves it in my desktop?
[07:19] <help-the-n00b> echo*
[07:19] <fusionxn1> What does this error mean? configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[07:20] <hbi> now i have kismet running lets see if i can crack my wep key
[07:20] <ciplogic> oskude: :) I need the coleg to install it because I don't want broke my Windows partitions
[07:20] <oskude> cello_rasp: i once used yaboot on a friends powerbook... you can allso boot to linux directly for openfirmware (or how its called)
[07:20] <oskude> cello_rasp: *from
[07:20] <Terminus> ciplogic: whoever told you you needed an upgrade didn't know what he was doing. =P
[07:21] <Terminus> ciplogic: edgy is not meant for end users as of this moment.
[07:21] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: yes, except you need a space after the cd command
[07:21] <a2xm> Terminus: what you use: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:21] <andyshack> im having an issue with securing mysql and phpmyadmin. should i remove the root user account for mysql ?
[07:21] <ciplogic> ok... I think I will let it Ubuntu as is and reboot on other OS (:P)
[07:21] <help-the-n00b> LOL! I'm missing alot of spaces today.
[07:22] <Terminus> a2xm: ubuntu. i've got kubuntu installed but i haven't used it in months.
[07:22] <ciplogic> Terminus: and I hope to get help from the person that installs me the ubuntu
[07:22] <ciplogic> Thank you guys that I know what is the problem
[07:22] <chris86wm> hey guys, does anyone know of an app that will let me have remote access to my ubuntu box from any computer (similar to logmein)?
[07:22] <hbi> whats the difference between the 2 i know kubuntu is a security one but cudnt u get the same apps for ubuntu or doesnt it work like that?
[07:22] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  http://tuxfiles.org   and http://linuxcommand.org  ( i think the second one is right)
[07:22] <gatekeeper> chris86wm: over the internet use ssh
[07:23] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: yeah , both url s might help
[07:23] <Terminus> hbi: kubuntu does not focus on security work. ubuntu uses gnome while kubuntu uses kde. and yes, i could get apps for either of them but that doesn't mean that i use qtparted.
[07:23] <harisund> chris86wm you have plenty of options ...(ok atleast a couple)
[07:23] <rabbit7> is there a way to check if the CD in my cdrom is empty ???
[07:23] <chris86wm> gatekeeper, well i wanted to be able to control the computer just like as if i was sitting there
[07:23] <redman276> how  do u uninstall  edubuntu ?
[07:23] <harisund> chris86wm what knd of a setup do you have? As in do you get internet directly from an ISP? Or do you have some router placed in somewhere..
[07:23] <hbi> kde is more stable isnt it? or did i hear wrongh
[07:23] <oskude> cello_rasp: heres how we did it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=474404&postcount=5
[07:23] <chris86wm> harisund, router
[07:24] <harisund> And what is the router connected to? The Cable modem whre you get your internet directly from your ISP?
[07:24] <gatekeeper> chris86wm: you can with ssh and then use vnc, freenx whatever
[07:24] <Enverex> hbi: Both are pretty much the same bth
[07:24] <chris86wm> gatekeeper, have a setup guide?
[07:24] <oskude> cello_rasp: but i never got that yaboot partition rescued (my firend broke it with norton:/) as the partitioning is mac was odd...
[07:24] <harisund> gatekeeper those were the three I was about to tell him about myself :D
[07:24] <hbi> kk
[07:24] <oskude> cello_rasp: is=in
[07:25] <Terminus> hbi: last time i used it, i ran into more bugs on kde than on gnome. :|
[07:25] <redman276> how do u uninstall edubuntu and go back to regular ubuntu ?
[07:25] <gatekeeper> harisund: I am usually a slow typer, so surprised you didn't get there first :-)
[07:25] <ardchoille> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/25/ubuntu_goes_mainstream/
[07:26] <harisund> gatekeeper, I wanted to know if he had direct internet access, or whether he had to forward ports through a router ..
[07:26] <tristanmike> redman276: "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  and select it from the logon window
[07:26] <gatekeeper> chris86wm: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#SSH_Server
[07:26] <hbi> fair enough im just enjoying ubuntu atm trying to customise it to what i like... its far easier to get what you want in this than in windows
[07:26] <Enverex> "and it's the distro most frequently installed on Dell PCs  according to Michael Dell himself." < OMG BIOS spyware!
[07:26] <Project2501a> yo
[07:27] <chris86wm> thanks guys
[07:27] <skavenge> anyone here install ut2004??? the sh install starts from disc 1 i try disc two wont eject force it mount #2, installer doesn't recognize it any suggestions?
[07:27] <hbi> any1 ever used cain on windows?
[07:27] <gatekeeper> harisund: you will have to ask him :-)
[07:27] <harisund> hehe ..
[07:28] <chris86wm> hbi, i have
[07:28] <hbi> is their a linux equivalent?
[07:28] <s_spiff> is there a way to give my ethernet card two ip add's? i'm using two broadband services on one pc.. one requires one ip add..the other reuqires other ip add . both ur diff dns and subnet masks...what to do. i'm a noob at networking and linux in general.someone help
[07:28] <hbi> cause that was a good aio app
[07:28] <hbi> well good for sniffing cracking  stuff like that
[07:28] <chris86wm> ethereal i believe, but i dont like it as much
[07:28] <johnm1019> i have two monitors, and was curious if there was any way to force my wallpaper to not try and span both monitors
[07:28] <hbi> hmm
[07:28] <hbi> its called wireshark
[07:28] <hbi> was ethereal
[07:29] <hbi> thats ported to windows too tho
[07:29] <Terminus> s_spiff: use aliases. like ifconfig eth0:0 ...
[07:29] <chris86wm> yeah
[07:29] <redman276> sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  says  edubuntu not installed  but yet when i boot  it  has the  edubuntu  logo and  gnome  has  like cartoon charachters  for icons
[07:29] <hbi> ethercap is the equiv i read
[07:29] <s_spiff> Terminus, um...didnt get you, newb to this.
[07:29] <Terminus> damn... i haven't had to use ifconfig in such a long time i forgot how to use it properly.
[07:29] <chris86wm> yeah, lol thats it
[07:29] <redman276> and it wrecked  my  ability to see my  network drives  now
[07:29] <thoreauputic> hbi: cracking is totally off-topic by the way, in case you were going there...
[07:29] <hbi> well when its local its ok
[07:30] <Enverex> If Ubuntu lost its funding from Shuttleworth, could it still hold together?
[07:30] <Terminus> Spec: something like ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 up will give eth0 a second ip address.
[07:30] <redman276> when i goto  place > Network Servers  , i can see  MsHome , but cant see any  pc's  in it
[07:30] <thnee> does linux work fine with macintosh's file system?(hfs+ is it?)
[07:30] <Terminus> s_spiff i mean. >_<
[07:31] <ryanakca> is the wiki slow for anybody else?
[07:31] <help-the-n00b> ubuntu
[07:31] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[07:31] <help-the-n00b> Oh.
[07:31] <Spec> Terminus: i'm sure that wasn't for me, but, that is true :)
[07:31] <help-the-n00b> I can't get my town tunes to play!!!! I talk to the duck in the town hall but he doesn't help!
[07:32] <help-the-n00b> :(
[07:32] <Terminus> Spec: yeah, it was meant for s_spiff. sorry. =D
[07:32] <Project2501a> Enverex: if wikipedia lost jimbo wales, would it still hold together?
[07:32] <Spec> :)
[07:32] <redman276> is ther a command line specific comman that can be  issued to  see the  output of  the  samba connection ?
[07:32] <Project2501a> redman276: smclient
[07:32] <Project2501a> man smbclient, even
[07:32] <s_spiff> Terminus, thanks..will try it out.
[07:32] <Enverex> Project2501a, Erm, I don't see how that is in any way related or fits as an anology
[07:32] <Lynoure> help-the-n00b: What duck?
[07:33] <Terminus> s_spiff: good luck.
[07:33] <help-the-n00b> The duck at town hall. He's in Silicon, my town.
[07:33] <help-the-n00b> I named it silicon.
[07:33] <jesspher> can anybody here help me with installing delta force black hawk down using wine
[07:33] <help-the-n00b> Say stop if I start to annoy you. I'm just talking about a video game.
[07:33] <lunatic> 
[07:34] <Spec> help-the-n00b: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <help-the-n00b> Oh ok. Thanks.
[07:34] <gnomefreak> help-the-n00b: bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <Spec> :)
[07:34] <help-the-n00b> Everyone here is over there?
[07:35] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i get h264 support? is it there already? (i have a huge video file to download, so i wanna check the format...)
[07:35] <hbi> whats the difference between typing sudo before u do something and not
[07:35] <ardchoille> help-the-n00b: No, we all have twins, lol
[07:35] <gnomefreak> help-the-n00b: no but some are and we stay on topic in here (support for ubuntu)
[07:35] <oskude> !sudo
[07:35] <ev01ution> hbi:sudo gives u superuser permissions
[07:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:35] <help-the-n00b> Support? You can tell me how to use the terminal?
[07:36] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i get h264 support? is it there already? (i have a huge video file to download, so i wanna check the format...)
[07:36] <jesspher> hi
[07:36] <stefg> !bash > help-the-n00b
[07:36] <ardchoille> help-the-n00b:  Yes :)
[07:36] <jesspher> can anybody help me with isntalling games with wine on ubuntu
[07:36] <redman276> what games jesspher?
[07:37] <stefg> jesspher: yes, #wine
[07:37] <jesspher> delta force black hawk down
[07:37] <Terminus> !bash > Terminus
[07:37] <redman276> ur gonna  need cedega  for that
[07:37] <jesspher> cacan you help me step by step
[07:37] <jesspher> is cedega better
[07:37] <redman276> transgaming  gaming  wine for linux
[07:37] <WiseOdd> !rar
[07:37] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:37] <LadyNikon> hey
[07:37] <jesspher> where can i get cedega
[07:37] <help-the-n00b> What's !bash?
[07:37] <LadyNikon> whats a good tv tuner?
[07:37] <redman276> u need  to have alien installed  first
[07:37] <redman276> so u can convert the rpm
[07:37] <ardchoille> !info bash
[07:37] <ubotu> bash: The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In repository main, is required. Version 3.1-2ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 745 kB, installed size 1792 kB
[07:37] <help-the-n00b> Ubotu! Is he human?
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher: Go to wine for toys and getting Windows games and apps to work
[07:37] <stefg> !help
[07:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:38] <ardchoille> no, he's a bot.. and a good one too
[07:38] <help-the-n00b> ubotu
[07:38] <jesspher> can you help me with installing windows media player 9
[07:38] <jesspher> please
[07:38] <gatekeeper> !mount > gatekeeper
[07:38] <stefg> actually it's Seveas' alter ego :-)
[07:38] <ardchoille> stefg: lol
[07:38] <oskude> jesspher: as the name sais, its for windows...
[07:38] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, where can i found the hungarian translation of gnomebaker?
[07:38] <LadyNikon> why contaminate your ubuntu with windows crap ;)
[07:38] <help-the-n00b> Ha! What's he say if I say GUI?
[07:38] <jesspher> i meant using wine
[07:39] <redman276> to install  wmp9  u need  xover office
[07:39] <help-the-n00b> Nothing?
[07:39] <oskude> jesspher: then try wine channel...
[07:39] <stefg> help-the-n00b: check your pm'S and do your homework :-D
[07:39] <prox3h> lol
[07:40] <help-the-n00b> PMs?
[07:40] <ardchoille> Private Messages
[07:40] <stefg> !bash
[07:40] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:40] <help-the-n00b> My forum has those!
[07:40] <tombs> hi all
[07:40] <help-the-n00b> Where do I check them?
[07:40] <ardchoille> hi tombs
[07:40] <livingdaylight> used the GParted LIveCD can someone have a look at what i've done?
[07:41] <tombs> ardchoille: hi man...long time :)
[07:41] <ardchoille> help-the-n00b: those pm's should open other windows/tabs in your irc client
[07:41] <ardchoille> tombs: indeed :)
[07:41] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: in xchat your pm should be in a tab or a new window ( usually a tab)
[07:41] <help-the-n00b> How do I send them?
[07:41] <LadyNikon> someone give me the name of a good tv tuner for ubuntu?
[07:42] <lgs> okopk+op
[07:42] <ben_> Hi all, Question: I've connected to my web hosting using the "connect to server" thing, but all my files on there are read only. is there any way i can change this so i can edit them?
[07:42] <livingdaylight> Yo Peeps!
[07:42] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: try reading the ones you were sent by ubotu to start with
[07:42] <ardchoille> LadyNikon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:42] <help-the-n00b> I did.
[07:42] <livingdaylight> can someone look at my partitioning?
[07:42] <help-the-n00b> How do you know he sent me some?
[07:42] <oskude> ben_: i never used that, but a quess: did you give the right user/pass ? does that user have write rights ?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: and don't send PMs to people without asking first - it's considered rude
[07:43] <redman276> we cant see  ur  partitions  livingdaylights
[07:43] <redman276> thats   at  pc  only
[07:43] <thoreauputic> !msg
[07:43] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[07:43] <livingdaylight> used GParted LiveCd to partition, but not sure what happened?
[07:43] <stefg> ben_ you want LUFS..
[07:43] <redman276> explain further
[07:43] <help-the-n00b> Send me a PM!
[07:43] <help-the-n00b> Please.
[07:43] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: see that?
[07:44] <ardchoille> help-the-n00b: you aren't identified with nickserv, so some of the id'd people here won't be able to see your replies to their pm's
[07:44] <Luke> none of my usb devices work and when I plug them in, dmesg reads: "usb 4-5: device not accepting address 83, error -110"
[07:44] <livingdaylight> Yo Peeps!
[07:44] <help-the-n00b> Oh ok.
[07:44] <livingdaylight> Hey, Guys!
[07:44] <help-the-n00b> Yeah.
[07:44] <livingdaylight> would it be possible?
[07:44] <redman276> livingdaylight: explain further
[07:44] <ardchoille> stefg: hehe
[07:45] <livingdaylight> redman276, ok, like i said. i used GParted LiveCD to partition my harddrive, but not sure of the result?
[07:45] <zzy> when i try to update real player it says this error
[07:45] <zzy> realplayer:
[07:45] <zzy>  Depends: xlibs  but it is not installable
[07:45] <redman276> what are you trying to accomplish ?
[07:45] <zzy> to install real player
[07:45] <thnee> is there some file system that both osx and linux works well with?
[07:45] <LadyNikon> ardchoille: i should have said .. tv application
[07:46] <redman276> livingdaylight: what are you trying to accomplish
[07:46] <Asc> zzy: there's another file which takes the place of xlibs.  But I've forgotten what it is.
[07:46] <oskude> thnee: xfs, i quess (well, osx is "unix" so...)
[07:46] <livingdaylight> redman276, well, i got 160gb but the installer on Dapper is rubbish and i had to let it use all 160 to install. I wantedto dualboot
[07:46] <ardchoille> LadyNikon: Ahh.. erm.. "oops" lol
[07:46] <LadyNikon> ardchoille: not your fault
[07:46] <livingdaylight> redman276, so i wanted to shave off a partition i could allocate to another distro
[07:46] <LadyNikon> i have a tvtuner.. i just wanted to know whats everyons favorite app to use to look at it
[07:46] <Asc> zzy: try xlibs-dev
[07:46] <thnee> oskude: cant linux work with hfs+?
[07:47] <redman276> install windows  first  use   xp installe to   repartiton the  hd   into 2  pcs ,  us  1st piece  for win ,  2nd  piece  for   linux
[07:47] <ardchoille> !info mythtv
[07:47] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[07:47] <redman276> its how i did it
[07:47] <ardchoille> !info tytime
[07:47] <ubotu> Package tytime does not exist in dapper
[07:47] <LadyNikon> and the wiki seems to be down
[07:47] <oskude> thnee: dunno, never tried. but i remember seeing that format in fdisk... (google?)
[07:47] <zzy> will can someone  help me install realplayer
[07:47] <livingdaylight> redman276, dude i haven't used xp in like 5years!
[07:47] <LadyNikon> tv not ty
[07:47] <redman276> ok  then what  os  are  u installing besides    linux ?
[07:47] <thnee> oskude: yes i want to remember seeing that aswell, but google says linux has issues with hfs
[07:47] <andyshack> caould someone point me to where i can find my php.ini file ?
[07:47] <gatekeeper> livingdaylight: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[07:47] <ardchoille> LadyNikon: Did you see what ubotu said? mythtv in in the repos (multiverse). I haven't used it but there is a distro based on it so I assume it would be a good tv app.
[07:47] <Asc> zzy: try installing xlibs-dev.  There's a good chance it will act as a replacement for xlibs
[07:48] <LadyNikon> ardchoille: tvtime ;) thanks
[07:48] <livingdaylight> redman276, another linux flavor
[07:48] <stefg> !lamp > andyshack
[07:48] <LadyNikon> ardchoille: you had tytime
[07:48] <oskude> thnee: hmm... well, osx is based on bsd (iirc) so even ext3 should work...
[07:48] <ardchoille> LadyNikon: I had both, tvtime isn't in the repos, but mythtv is
[07:48] <gdb> andyshack: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[07:48] <LadyNikon> ardchoille: i just picked it out of it
[07:48] <LadyNikon> ardchoille: so its there
[07:48] <ardchoille> ok
[07:48] <zzy> so if i install this it should fix my problem
[07:48] <andyshack> ta
[07:48] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, lol, thats gonna be fun
[07:49] <LadyNikon> thanks :)
[07:49] <redman276> id  use the ubuntu   installer and   partition   this way ,   1st  physical hd ,   partition   47% for  / and   3% swap   then     leave the  rest of the drive alone
[07:49] <GSF> redman276: what's up with all the spaces
[07:49] <Asc> zzy: there's a good chance it will, yes.
[07:49] <redman276> then install other flavor  and   use   unpartitoned  space
[07:49] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, lol, dude, problem is that is xp/linux again. I don't even own a copy of xp any more
[07:49] <gatekeeper> livingdaylight: if you just want more than one linux distro, then just do a manual partition
[07:49] <thnee> oskude: well i'd like to access my osx partition from linux
[07:50] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, yea how?
[07:50] <zazeem> whats the cmd to install an rpm file?
[07:50] <oskude> thnee: then howabout just trying ? :)
[07:50] <stefg> !info mol
[07:50] <ubotu> Package mol does not exist in dapper
[07:50] <livingdaylight> i used GPartiion LiveCd but i don't see what i shaved off
[07:50] <help-the-n00b> Yay! Did I miss nything?
[07:50] <fusionxn1> Just wondering - would anyone here go back to WIndows/
[07:50] <zazeem> whats the cmd to install an rpm file?
[07:50] <gdb> I thought OS x used ufs?
[07:50] <ardchoille> zazeem: Do you have alien installed? if so:  alien file.rpm
[07:50] <gdb> er OS X
[07:50] <zazeem> thnx
[07:50] <stefg> ubotu ist stupid x86 centric ....
[07:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about ist stupid x86 centric .... - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:50] <zzy> so it says it install so when i go back into websites will it play real player video
[07:51] <nalioth> ardchoille: is this a last resort?
[07:51] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19025
[07:51] <nalioth> zazeem: you should stay away from RPMs.  most any software you need is available in the repos
[07:51] <ardchoille> nalioth: Not sure. Can you teach me the  stages one should follow?
[07:52] <Asc> zzy: The only way to find out is to try it, but I wouldn't put much money on it working.  Support for media content in browsers is a little... spotty.
[07:52] <gatekeeper> livingdaylight: dapper installer uses GParted, one of the last steps is partitioning, you get a dialog with a radio button, default is do it's own thing, if you select manual partition you can set the disk up the way you want it
[07:52] <johnm1019> has anyone figured out how to get a multi-monitor setup to not stretch your wallpaper
[07:52] <ardchoille> nalioth: Ahh, yes, good point. I will ammend my advice for the future :)
[07:52] <nalioth> ardchoille: 1) look in the repos 2) look for "ubuntu compatible" debs 3) compile it yourself  4) the only usage i see for RPMs is for some of those proprietary printer or other drivers that can't be had any other way
[07:53] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, no way, its impossible to use, common
[07:53] <gdb> livingdaylight: it is?
[07:53] <ardchoille> nalioth: Thank you, I'll adhere to that from now on. Thank you :)
[07:53] <zazeem> nalioth: how do i convert an rpm to deb under root
[07:53] <livingdaylight> gatekeeper, i found the partitioner on the Dapper livecd impossible, yes
[07:53] <zazeem> nalioth: how do i convert an rpm to deb under root?
[07:53] <gdb> livingdaylight: how so?  i found it pretty easy
[07:53] <zzy> ok ok thanks i have another question i have two hard drives in here and when i click on my computer it shows my second drive but i can access my drive in the media folders both hd how do i move them so when i click on my computer they both open
[07:53] <xst> I try to burn some mp3 in "audio format" with k3b but k3b claims that the mp3 is an "unsupported fileformat". Strange, as I can play mp3's just fine with amarok. How do I make k3b accept mp3-files?
[07:53] <operative> Hi Fred :D
[07:53] <nalioth> zazeem: see what i just told ardchoille please
[07:53] <gdb> livingdaylight: so use fdisk in a terminal! :-d
[07:53] <gdb> er :-D
[07:53] <livingdaylight> gdb, impossible. couldn't allocate
[07:53] <zzy> both hd are there
[07:53] <nalioth> zazeem: what software are you trying to install from the RPM?
[07:53] <ardchoille> zazeem: It would be better to find out which app you want to install and see if it is the repos.
[07:54] <livingdaylight> gdb, and do what?
[07:54] <zzy> ok ok thanks i have another question i have two hard drives in here and when i click on my computer it shows my second drive but i can access my drive in the media folders both hd  are there how do i move them so when i click on my computer they both open
[07:54] <gdb> livingdaylight: manually partition your disk as folks have been suggesting
[07:54] <zazeem> ardchoille: its limewire
[07:54] <GeorgX_> hi
[07:54] <apoka> Hi ThomazLeite
[07:54] <ardchoille> !info limewire
[07:54] <ubotu> Package limewire does not exist in dapper
[07:54] <zazeem> nalioth: i have no clue how to compile either
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> We need a one page faq ... Basics you need to know BEFORE asking questions in the channel
[07:54] <stefg> !frostwire
[07:54] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:54] <gdb> I don't see what the issue is with the graphical partitioner, though.  You know, you can get on the network using the live CD and ask questions while using the utility.
[07:54] <ardchoille> !info frostwire
[07:54] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in dapper
[07:55] <nalioth> zazeem: there is no need for compiling limewire
[07:55] <nalioth> !limewire > zazeem
[07:55] <nalioth> !frostwire > zazeem
[07:55] <stefg> ardchoille: homework-time :-)
[07:55] <zazeem> frostwire?
[07:55] <zazeem> whats that?
[07:55] <GeorgX_> I tried to install ubuntu 6.06 on my new sata hardisk, but after a restart grub prints a error 22 message. Does Grub support sata yet?
[07:55] <livingdaylight> gdb, does that look right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19026
[07:55] <ardchoille> stefg: ?
[07:56] <zzy> ok ok thanks i have another question i have two hard drives in here and when i click on my computer it shows my second drive but i can access my drive in the media folders both hd  are there how do i move them so when i click on my computer they both open
[07:56] <nalioth> zazeem: look at your private messages, please
[07:56] <livingdaylight> gdb, i have a sata drive, so shouldn't i i have for ubuntu sda1, 3,5, etc and for another distro sdb1,3,5 etc?
[07:56] <gdb> livingdaylight: Yes, that's normal.  You need to tell fdisk which disk to work with. If you don't know the device names of your disks, then 'fdisk -l' will list them, and your partitions.
[07:56] <zzy> _dists_dapper-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:57] <zzy> why does it say this
[07:57] <zazeem> nalioth: how do i install a .deb file?
[07:57] <gdb> livingdaylight: if you don't provide a disk to work with,  fdisk will print that usage message and exit.  It's normal. :-)
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: Yes running sata here
[07:57] <bach> hello.
[07:57] <gdb> zazeem: dpkg -i package_name.deb
[07:57] <zazeem> thn x
[07:57] <livingdaylight> i'm out of my depth
[07:57] <moga> how du I upgade from hoary to dapper ?
[07:58] <nalioth> !deb > zazeem
[07:58] <stefg> !upgrade
[07:58] <livingdaylight> what i found is that when i put in a disk to install it doesn't see the other partition
[07:58] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:58] <gdb> livingdaylight: You said you have a sata drive, so let's go with sda and see where that gets is.  Do 'fdisk /dev/sda'
[07:58] <gdb> er where that gets us
[07:58] <zazeem> nalioth: damn i need jave 1.4 how can i get that through apt-get?
[07:58] <ThomazLeite> apoka, hi
[07:58] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: so what could have been gone wrong then?
[07:59] <gatekeeper> moga: try installing update-manager, and see if it gives you an option to upgrade to dapper
[07:59] <gdb> zazeem: gcj is more or less compatible with java 1.4 and should work for you (for most applications).  It's installed with the default system.  Do 'java -version' to see.
[07:59] <Terminus> zazeem: apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[07:59] <shawn_> hihi
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: IS there another OS on the box
[07:59] <Terminus> zazeem: that's a newer version btw.
[07:59] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19027
[07:59] <nalioth> !java > zazeem
[07:59] <zazeem> thanks <33
[07:59] <Terminus> zazeem: and it's in multiverse.
[07:59] <DarkAudit> mdns-scan is not allowed to run when I've got firestarter active... other computers on the local network cannot see this one when mdns-scan is run from there, either, even though those addresses are listed as allowed to connect to this one
[07:59] <zazeem> i love this channel
[07:59] <gdb> The sun-java5 packages are J2SE 5.0 Release 6.
[07:59] <zazeem> i actually get help :D
[07:59] <gdb> aka Java 1.5
[08:00] <nalioth> zazeem: or lots of PMs from a bot
[08:00] <Luke> none of my usb devices work and when I plug them in, dmesg reads: "usb 4-5: device not accepting address 83, error -110"
[08:00] <zazeem> hmm it says after i type limewire, i need jre 1.4.x
[08:00] <zazeem> hmm it says after i type limewire, i need jre 1.4.x or newer
[08:00] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: not on the same drive, but on other pata drives
[08:00] <gdb> livingdaylight: ok, good.  If you press 'p' and then enter, it should print out a list of partitions.
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_:  Did you let it do an automatic install or try to set up partitions yourself
[08:01] <moga> gatekeeper: it say
[08:01] <nalioth> zazeem: 1.5 is in the repos, read your PM
[08:01] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: Is choose to set up my partitions myself
[08:01] <moga> A new release with the codename 'dapper' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.A new release with the codename 'dapper' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.
[08:01] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19028
[08:01] <gatekeeper> moga: it say what?
[08:01] <gdb> zazeem: If you need jre 1.4 or *newer* than you can use the sun-java5-jre package as suggested.  It's in the Multiverse respository.
[08:01] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: Did you go ext2,3 reisf ?
[08:02] <bl3ssing> how to install file:///home/mariuspurcaru/Desktop/firefox-1.5.0.5.tar.gz on my computer without adept or other repository thing ...
[08:02] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: ext3
[08:02] <moga> gatekeeper: it say : A new release with the codename 'dapper' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.A new release with the codename 'dapper' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.
[08:02] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: Personally I would try again letting Ubuntu set things up
[08:02] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: I could post my fstab and menu.list if that could help
[08:02] <zazeem> says i have ity already
[08:03] <santa99> evening guys, do you know a page where is shown how to save the packages downloaded trough apt-get
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: You might consider the Super Grub Repair Dick..
[08:03] <livingdaylight> gdb, basically i got sda there into three sections, but i got a 160gb hd so whre is the rest?
[08:03] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: Ok maybe I try disabling all other drives an install only on this one
[08:03] <zazeem> hmm iwonder if this will solve my azureus probleem too, it disapears when i open it
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: It might fix that error and find the correct partiton
[08:03] <bl3ssing> how to install file:///home/mariuspurcaru/Desktop/firefox-1.5.0.5.tar.gz on my computer without adept or other repository thing ...
[08:03] <bl3ssing> ?
[08:03] <zazeem> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[08:03] <zazeem> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[08:03] <zazeem> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[08:04] <zazeem> :/
[08:04] <help-the-n00b> How do I reload the terminal>?
[08:04] <gatekeeper> moga apt-get install update-manager
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> GeorgX_: THat will help isolate the problem then go back and set for dual boot.
[08:04] <help-the-n00b> How do I reload the terminal?*
[08:04] <zazeem> i have the pachage too
[08:04] <gdb> livingdaylight: It's in the unallocated space between sda1 and sda2.  You can create partition sda3 or sda4 in that space.
[08:04] <zazeem> do i have to restart ?
[08:04] <GeorgX_> @Jack_Sparrow: I try and come back if it doesn't work, thanx cu
[08:04] <bl3ssing> can anybody say something to me?
[08:04] <help-the-n00b> How do I reload the terminal?*
[08:04] <bl3ssing> anything ...
[08:04] <Terminus> zazeem: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:04] <livingdaylight> gdb, and rename it sdb?
[08:04] <bl3ssing> just that you love me. :)
[08:04] <gdb> livingdaylight: Note that sda1 ends on cylinder 8924 and sda2 starts on 19282.  You can create a partition that extends from 8925 to 19281.
[08:04] <livingdaylight> gdb, and put another distro on there?
[08:05] <olrrai> hi againg
[08:05] <zazeem> thanks man :D
[08:05] <bl3ssing> hi olrrai
[08:05] <howlingmadhowie> hi everybody :)
[08:05] <bl3ssing> hi howlingmadhowie
[08:05] <gdb> livingdaylight: No,  it will have to be either sda3 or sda4.  You have already allocated sda1 and sda2.  sda2 is an extended partition but does not cover that empty space so you cannot put a logical partition (like sda6 and beyond) in it.
[08:05] <olrrai> I can fix the scanner problem but I can run xsane only as root, any idea?
[08:06] <livingdaylight> gdb, sorry, its beyond me
[08:06] <howlingmadhowie> i have a question too, if someone wants to tackle it :)
[08:06] <gdb> livingdaylight: You can press 'n' for new, and when prompted, use the partition type 'primary' and the number '3' or '4'.  Either number is fine.
[08:06] <ardchoille> howlingmadhowie: go for it
[08:06] <howlingmadhowie> check to see where xsane is, olrral. try which xsane, and see where it is
[08:07] <livingdaylight> gdb, invalid partition number
[08:07] <howlingmadhowie> okay. nautilus doesn't show windows shares anymore, allthough i can connect to them using smbmount
[08:07] <silvalynin> hey can someone help me out
[08:07] <olrrai> howlingmadhowie: ok
[08:07] <ajopaul> hi if i install ubuntu on a windows machine and put grub in its partition and not in MBR, what are my options to boot to ubuntu??
[08:07] <jrib> !ask
[08:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:07] <klm-> hey is there a tool for making a bunch of jpg -images smaller?
[08:07] <bl3ssing> can anybody tell me how to unpackage a file and install it,please?
[08:07] <zazeem> how do u get rid of warning popups? i have had an azureus one here for hours, there is no close thing on it
[08:07] <klm-> *in resolution that is
[08:08] <silvalynin> ok, well i just installed ubuntu, and i need to install the ati driver for my vid. card
[08:08] <howlingmadhowie> if it's a tar archifve, blessing, try tar -x <file/name>
[08:08] <silvalynin> how do i go about doing that
[08:08] <gdb> livingdaylight: the sd refers to the type of disk, the a to which disk it is, and number to the partition number.  In this case, sd means 'scsi disk' which is the type for both scsi and sata drives.  The a is the 'first physical disk'.  So sdb would be have to be a different hard disk.
[08:08] <jrib> bl3ssing: what kind of file? and what program are you trying to install?
[08:08] <bl3ssing> azureus is the worst thing I've ever had in my computer ...
[08:08] <gdb> livingdaylight: Where are you getting that error?
[08:08] <jrib> !ati > silvalynin
[08:08] <DrBashir2> I suppose I can make contact with my laptop (windowsXP) and from there contact ubuntu, because my work only allows port 80
[08:08] <silvalynin> thanks
[08:08] <livingdaylight> gdb, after i type n
[08:08] <bl3ssing> jrib, Firefox. I've already have the file on my desktop. I don't want to use adept or repository but a konsole. Just that I don't know how to ... :(
[08:08] <ardchoille> bl3ssing: Which kind of file is it? .tar.gz? .tar.bz2? .deb?
[08:08] <DrBashir2> but on my laptop I've got free reign
[08:08] <gdb> livingdaylight: can you pastebin it?
[08:09] <stefg> zazeem: sure... it's sudo apt-get remove --purge azur .... (JOKE!)
[08:09] <dp_wiz> Hellow, orld! Could anyone point me to HowTo on setting up packages repositary for my LAN? With rsync updates and so...
[08:09] <jrib> bl3ssing: may I ask why you don't want to use the firefox in repository?
[08:09] <bl3ssing> ardchoille, tar.gz.
[08:09] <wacko> for some reason k3b thinks my home directory is 2.9 tb
[08:09] <zazeem> stefg: that did nothing
[08:09] <silvalynin> the link for the vid. card isn't working
[08:09] <wacko> i dont know whats going on
[08:09] <bl3ssing> jrib, because I already used it and it is old version. I need the newest one.
[08:09] <wacko> i was trying to back up my home directory
[08:09] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19029
[08:09] <howlingmadhowie> then you have to unzip it first. try gzip -d <filename>
[08:09] <jrib> bl3ssing: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:09] <stefg> zazeem: then it worked as intenden :-)
[08:10] <bl3ssing> 5.10
[08:10] <bl3ssing> jrib, 5.10
[08:10] <bach> Hi, I am just diving into ubuntu.  Can someone tell me how do i find out what kernel i have.
[08:10] <bosco> so how do i mount a fat32 flash drive in ubuntu via terminal cuz i dont use gome anymore how do i mount it via terminal
[08:10] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: why not upgrade to 6.06 ?
[08:10] <howlingmadhowie> bach uname -a
[08:10] <jrib> bl3ssing: you can upgrade to 6.06 if you want, in ubuntu 6.06, firefox is 1.5
[08:10] <zazeem> stefg: isnt this channel for support :/
[08:10] <help-the-n00b> Yes.
[08:10] <bl3ssing> thoreauputic, , I tried yesterday to do it ... but nothing.
[08:10] <help-the-n00b> And it's annoying me.
[08:10] <jrib> silvalynin: yes, the wiki seems to be down at the moment
[08:10] <silvalynin> the link to install the ati drivers isn't working
[08:10] <silvalynin> o alright
[08:10] <bach> thanks howlingmadhowie
[08:10] <thoreauputic> !upgrade > bl3ssing
[08:10] <howlingmadhowie> bach de rien :)
[08:10] <wacko> what is the new gtk burning app?
[08:11] <jrib> silvalynin: I believe there is a help menu with the same information somewhere on your system
[08:11] <gdb> livingdaylight: if you're not able to create a parition 3 or 4 in that space, then there is a possible workaround that could result in data loss.  So you might want to start making plans to back up that disk prior to repartitioning it.  You may be able  to reparition it completely without losing data, but the process for doing so could make the data inaccessible.  Basically, you'd delete partition 2 and 5, and then create partitions 4 and 5 using the same cyl
[08:11] <jrib> silvalynin: system > help maybe (I;m not in gnome right now)
[08:11] <void^> zazeem: use http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[08:11] <stefg> zazeem: it's in the best interest of support to tell people to get rid of buggy applications
[08:11] <silvalynin> alright i'll try
[08:11] <bl3ssing> yes jrib, i understand. How can I install the kubuntu 6.0.6 ... yesterday I tried and nothing. Problems on installing. I've already destroied 2 cd with 2 tryings ...
[08:11] <zazeem> i just need to know how to get rid of warning popups
[08:12] <MrFeetio> azureus doesnt run well on ubuntu last i knew
[08:12] <livingdaylight> gdb, not worried about data, but i dunno
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[08:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:12] <jrib> bl3ssing: why use cd's?  Did you try just upgrading using your network?
[08:12] <bl3ssing> thanks thoreauputic, but yesterday I tried. NOTHING~
[08:12] <gdb> livingdaylight: it's asking you to enter the letter 'p' or 'l' there.  you want to use p. The number is entered after that prompt.
[08:12] <void^> stefg: the problem is fixed in debian sid's azureus package even
[08:12] <bosco> so how do i mount a fat32 flash drive in ubuntu via terminal cuz i dont use gome anymore how do i mount it via terminal
[08:12] <bl3ssing> jrib, how can I do it?
[08:12] <jrib> bl3ssing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:12] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: "nothing" is not a useful error meassage :)
[08:12] <livingdaylight> gdb, what is 'p' or 'l'
[08:12] <gdb> livingdaylight: ie; enter 'p', press enter, then it will ask for a number.
[08:12] <gdb> livingdaylight: primary vs. logical partition
[08:12] <Myrth> is kernel source installed with default 5.10 install?
[08:12] <bl3ssing> thoreauputic, LOL
[08:13] <gdb> livingdaylight: it's a work around for a bios limitation that was fine when DOS was the only OS we used on PCs. ;-)
[08:13] <silvalynin> alright i found info about the driver, but i'm not sure why it wasn't automatically loaded, and how to load it now
[08:13] <jrib> bl3ssing: except, right now the wiki seems to be down :)
[08:13] <dp_wiz> Could anyone point me to HowTo on setting up packages repositary for my LAN? With rsync updates and so...
[08:13] <bl3ssing> jrib, I'd love to have the kubuntu 6.0.6 on my cd. How can I?
[08:13] <stefg> void^ , zazeem .. so you see: this is how support works.. a solution is prolly found :-)
[08:13] <eck> does anyone know of any terminal emulators with 256 color suppor *besides* xterm that come with dapper?
[08:13] <howlingmadhowie> bosco check to see if it's been recognised first. try 'partitions'
[08:14] <_azrael> eck: Eterm
[08:14] <bl3ssing> lol jrib
[08:14] <eck> _azrael: thanks :-)
[08:14] <gdb> eck: gnome-terminal, rxvt, konsole, eterm, tn3270
[08:14] <gdb> er and aterm
[08:14] <howlingmadhowie> bosco : sorry, i mean cat /proc/partitions
[08:14] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19032
[08:14] <Myrth> how do i install kernel source from 5.10 so i can change config and recompile?
[08:14] <eck> gdb: gnome-terminal needs to be patched, and AFAIK konsole does not have 256 color support
[08:14] <wooflungpoo> whats the min requirements for ubuntu? is it less han Redhat FC4
[08:14] <eck> gdb: I think rxvt only has 88 colors
[08:14] <silvalynin> the driver is radeon, but i'm not sure why it wasn't loaded, and how to load i now, help
[08:15] <urakaipa> hi there is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[08:15] <gdb> livingdaylight: Just press enter there.
[08:15] <dooglus> what does a load average of 4 mean?  I'm not running anything much, and my CPU is mostly idle - so why is load average so high?
[08:15] <jrib> urakaipa: yes, seems to be
[08:15] <livingdaylight> gdb, right, and now?
[08:15] <Myrth> anybody?
[08:15] <urakaipa> jrib: thank you
[08:15] <bl3ssing> can anybody tell me where from should I take the kit of kubuntu 6.0.6, so that downloading to put it onto my CD, than to install it over my ubunutu 5.10 system? thank you.
[08:15] <gdb> dooglus: it means that 4 processes are concurrently asking for cpu time (on average) at the same time.
[08:16] <bl3ssing> but I don't want only upgrade ... the whole kit.
[08:16] <dooglus> gdb: wouldn't that result in my CPU being 100% busy?  I see it was 10% busy
[08:16] <gdb> livingdaylight: it's probably asking you for the ending cylinder and suggesting 19281, yes?
[08:16] <silvalynin> no.
[08:16] <bl3ssing> jrib, it happens often to wiki website not to work? :)
[08:17] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19033
[08:17] <gdb> dooglus: That could very well be the case if you're running appliations that are blocking on, say,  disk or network I/O.
[08:17] <ardchoille> bl3ssing: wiki.ubuntu.com is not often down
[08:17] <jrib> bl3ssing: no, I think it has happened 3 times that I can remember
[08:17] <ajopaul> hi if i dont install ubuntu on MBR and keep grup in the ubuntu partition itself, how do i boot to ubuntu??
[08:17] <help-the-n00b> Anyone here know C?
[08:17] <dooglus> help-the-n00b: yes
[08:18] <ajopaul> that is if the machine already has windows..
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ajopaul: You can make a floppy for boot(ing) grub
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot > ajopaul
[08:18] <gdb> livingdaylight: right, now press 'p' again to 'print' and pastebin what you get.  I'd like to ensure that your new parition scheme is correct.
[08:18] <gdb> partition*
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > ajopaul
[08:18] <ajopaul> Jack_Sparrow:  ok only floppy not cd?
[08:18] <dooglus> gdb: I'm running a bittorrent client, which is downloading a torrent onto a cifs shared drive.  that's all.
[08:18] <fusionxn1> Does ubuntu install your network devices by default? Windows XP doesn't on my motherboard
[08:18] <gdb> eck: That's interesting, just learning that then.  I wasn't aware of those limitations.
[08:18] <Myrth> is it possible that usrobotics nic driver is not in default kernel compile?
[08:18] <help-the-n00b> What compiler do you use?
[08:18] <gdb> eck: Thank you.  :-)
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ajopaul: It could work from CD..
[08:18] <help-the-n00b> Where can I get it?
[08:19] <ajopaul> okies..
[08:19] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: virtually anyone would use gcc here
[08:19] <help-the-n00b> Where do I get it?
[08:19] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19034
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !info build-essential
[08:19] <gdb> dooglus: Then it's likely that you're getting a lot of blocks on network IO, meaning a process is running in kernelspace waiting for some data to come from the network interface, but the kernel isn't otherwise devoting CPU time to it.  What you're seeing is a load average that's the result of I/O, not actual computation.
[08:19] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:19] <IRCMonkeyx> people what was other ubuntu channel name for chat?
[08:19] <fusionxn1> Does ubuntu install your network devices by default? Windows XP doesn't on my motherboard
[08:20] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: install build-essential
[08:20] <ardchoille> IRCMonkeyx: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1: IF XP dosent have the drivers by default then Linux will probably not either
[08:20] <IRCMonkeyx> yes thanx
[08:20] <help-the-n00b> How?
[08:20] <fusionxn1> Jack - Vista does
[08:20] <fusionxn1> XP - Don't :(
[08:20] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: have you read *anything* ?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: look at the wiki, please
[08:20] <help-the-n00b> *anything*?
[08:20] <fusionxn1> Dam termanal is still "making" KDE messenger
[08:21] <livingdaylight> gdb, partiton table entries are not in disc order?
[08:21] <help-the-n00b> Hey! Terminal is my friend!
[08:21] <ardchoille> thoreauputic: I don't think the wiki is working atm
[08:21] <eck> _azrael: eterm does not have 256 color support
[08:21] <fusionxn1> Jack - whats a good site for linux drivers?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> ardchoille: ah, you're right
[08:21] <bl3ssing> cool guys
[08:21] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:22] <IRCMonkeyx> could anyone gives me a hint about coding C under ubuntu?
[08:22] <santa99> he guys the command dpkg-scanpackages don't get found by my system
[08:22] <gdb> livingdaylight: Ok, you now have a 79MB /dev/sda3 that sits, physically, in between /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.
[08:22] <bl3ssing> can anybody tell me where from should I take the kit of kubuntu 6.0.6, so that downloading to put it onto my CD, than to install it over my ubunutu 5.10 system? but I don't want only upgrade ... the whole kit so that I could install it in my computer anytime's the case ....
[08:22] <eck> it can only print 16 colors
[08:22] <gdb> livingdaylight: You'll use 'w' to write that new partition table to the disk.
[08:22] <livingdaylight> gdb, ok, so i can use that to put another distro on there?
[08:22] <santa99> IRCMonkeyx, gcc and make is the only thing you need to code C in Ubuntu
[08:22] <dooglus> gdb: can a single azureus process cause a load average of 4 though?  I would have thought that a single process could increase the load average by a maximum of 1?  and then 'cifsd' by another 1.  so I wonder where the extra 2 are coming from
[08:23] <livingdaylight> gdb, i should type 'w' now?
[08:23] <Renan_s2> santa99, no. you need headers and libraries
[08:23] <Renan_s2> IRCMonkeyx, apt-get install build-essential
[08:23] <thoreauputic> dooglus: java ?
[08:23] <ardchoille> thoreauputic: That's one of my two favourite sites.. that and the forums :(
[08:23] <santa99> Renan_s2, headers and libraries from what ?
[08:23] <gdb> livingdaylight: Well, that depends on if you plan to share /dev/sda5 as the swap device for both distributions.  But yes, you can install the other operating system there.  Just tell it to use /dev/sda5 for swap.
[08:23] <IRCMonkeyx> Renan_s2: where will i code ? new consol?
[08:23] <Renan_s2> IRCMonkeyx, you can use any editor you like
[08:23] <thoreauputic> ardchoille: yes, ubuntu.com has been having problems recently I believe
[08:24] <gdb> livingdaylight: yes, that will write the new table to the disk.  then you can do 'q' to quit.
[08:24] <ardchoille> yeah
[08:24] <livingdaylight> gdb, is that easy? what if i end up with more than 1 swap?
[08:24] <fusionxn1> thor - correct, the site is very slow for me
[08:24] <Renan_s2> there are Anjuta and KDevelop, both are very good developer environments
[08:24] <hbi> am i allowed to get help o security auditing on this or is it not really appropriate for this irc?
[08:24] <help-the-n00b> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <propan0> hello all...
[08:24] <help-the-n00b> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <Renan_s2> I use KDevelop myself for writing C and C++
[08:24] <Dial_tone> is there a cli for beagle search?
[08:24] <help-the-n00b> ???
[08:24] <hbi> kk cheers
[08:24] <jrib> Dial_tone: beagle-query
[08:24] <fusionxn1> Anyone know a good linux driver website?
[08:24] <Dial_tone> merci
[08:24] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: you need a /
[08:24] <ardchoille> help-the-n00b: / /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <help-the-n00b> I got it.
[08:24] <IRCMonkeyx> Renan_s2: i have no internet connection in ubuntu, where can i download it from debian org?
[08:24] <propan0> im trying to connect with the updated kernel using my speedtouch usb modem, wich works on this kernel , but it wont connect
[08:24] <ardchoille> -/
[08:25] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, what drivers r u looking for?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:25] <livingdaylight> gdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19035
[08:25] <propan0> i get error  unrecognized option nas0
[08:25] <zazeem> how can i get my side mouse buttons to work?
[08:25] <fusionxn1> Hi again s_spiff. Intel ETHERNET PRO 1000 drivers
[08:25] <zazeem> i have ,mx310
[08:25] <fusionxn1> And i forget what my other ethernet controller is
[08:25] <livingdaylight> gdb, looks like it failed
[08:25] <propan0> im using this howto wich worked on this kernel file:///home/propan0/Desktop/usbModem/SpeedTouch.htm
[08:25] <propan0> ooops lol
[08:25] <gdb> dooglus: Ah, I don't know.  What does top tell you?  Suffice it to say that with the CPU at 10% utilization, a load average of 4 is pretty much meaningless for you, assuming it's network IO that is being blocked on. If it's disk IO (which is possible) you may experience some performance issues with your swap or with application launches.  But if your interactive performance is acceptable, then I wouldn't worry about it.
[08:25] <propan0> i mean tthis one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch
[08:25] <ardchoille> propan0: lol, that doesn't open for me X)
[08:25] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, inter site should have the drivers available .. checked their site?
[08:26] <propan0> yeh sorry worng paste hehe
[08:26] <bach> I have a laptop and I have a monitor can I set-up so I can use the laptop monitor and the other monitor?
[08:26] <fusionxn1> s_spiff yes they dont even have the windows ones for my ethernet port?!
[08:26] <s_spiff> brb /away
[08:26] <IRCMonkeyx> Renan_s2: i have no internet connection in ubuntu, where can i download it from debian org? or it is already in ubuntu ??
[08:26] <s_spiff> they dont? wierd!..
[08:26] <fusionxn1> Holy crap why does KDE messenger take forever to "make"
[08:26] <propan0> after i updated the kernel and booted to the new one my connection stopped working
[08:26] <Renan_s2> IRCMonkeyx, I don't know if you can download them from Debian...
[08:26] <fusionxn1> been going for 30 minutes
[08:26] <gdb> livingdaylight: Looks like it wrote the new table to the disk, but was unable to update the kernel's idea of the table because you're booted off the disk that you just reparititoned.  It should clear up after rebooting the machine.
[08:26] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, C++ stuff is slow to compile
[08:26] <livingdaylight> gdb, when i use the dapper livecd installer why are the partitions set to MB instead of GB - so tedious, and then i never know which one i'm sizing,
[08:27] <propan0> i tryed redoing the steps but no luck
[08:27] <livingdaylight> gdb, oh, ok
[08:27] <fusionxn1> Renan - isn't there a package to just "install"
[08:27] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, what is the application?
[08:27] <Breedcha> hya
[08:27] <Renan_s2> KDE messenger = kopete? or kmess?
[08:27] <fusionxn1> I had to get a hell load of stuff to get it to even configure
[08:27] <livingdaylight> gdb, do you honestly find the dapper livecd installer's gui partitioner easy?
[08:27] <help-the-n00b> killall gnome-panel
[08:27] <fusionxn1> KDE Messenger
[08:27] <s_spiff> kopete
[08:27] <pylo1> oy folks, how can I setup LAMP on ubuntu, php doesnt parse
[08:27] <Breedcha> so...
[08:27] <gdb> livingdaylight: Well, the graphical one does show you where the partitions are in the box at the top of the window.  You can click on them to choose which you want to edit.
[08:27] <fusionxn1> s_spiff correct
[08:27] <gdb> livingdaylight: yes, I do.
[08:27] <s_spiff> :P
[08:28] <livingdaylight> gdb, i breezy i managed it but the new gui ipartitioner in dapper - ai
[08:28] <ardchoille> !lamp > pylo1
[08:28] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, apt-get install kopete ?
[08:28] <pylo1> indeed
[08:28] <fusionxn1> oh bugger lol
[08:28] <help-the-n00b> I installed build essential but iI can't find it.
[08:28] <livingdaylight> gdb, found that i couldn't assign primary or logical as well
[08:28] <s_spiff> fusionxn1, thats what i was wondering, i just installed it sometime back via apt... haha...
[08:28] <gdb> help-the-n00b: build-essential doesn't install any files itself, it installs a number of other packages that include a compiler and associated support files.  What, exactly,  are you looking to find/
[08:29] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: build-essential is a bucnch of things including gcc g++ etc
[08:29] <propan0> why would pppd stop working after a kernel update?
[08:29] <Pikciurna> i have adsl conexant adapter, ubuntu can`t detect it, and i can`t find drivers for it, any advise?
[08:29] <Breedcha> my gdm is totally messed up. what can i do?
[08:29] <help-the-n00b> I'm looking for a C compiler.
[08:29] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: you won't "find" it - you need to read about gcc and friends
[08:29] <Tmob> help-the-n00b, google
[08:29] <gdb> livingdaylight: Ah, well, those options are in there.  i'm sorry it wasn't easy to use.  But now that you've seen the fdisk utility, you should be able to refer to it in the future.
[08:29] <fusionxn1> How do you know which apps got apt-get ?
[08:29] <fuoco> anyone here knows a bit about video encoding ?
[08:30] <zazeem> has anyone seen linux xp LOL sweet stuff
[08:30] <gdb> help-the-n00b: That came with package gcc which was installed with build-essential.
[08:30] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b:  gcc is the compiler command - man gcc to read about it
[08:30] <fusionxn1> zazeen - link?
[08:30] <pylo1> anyone switch from gnome to something else? kde, fluxbox?
[08:30] <livingdaylight> gdb, thx for your help
[08:30] <gdb> livingdaylight: Sure thing!
[08:30] <Renan_s2> pylo1, I moved to KDE
[08:30] <help-the-n00b> Ok.
[08:30] <livingdaylight> gdb, i'll reboot and see whats what
[08:30] <pylo1> does kde own gnome?
[08:30] <eck> pylo1: i moved to fluxbox, but then switched back after about a month :-)
[08:30] <Renan_s2> I prefer KDE, it is faster here
[08:30] <Breedcha> blah blah blah
[08:30] <livingdaylight> pylo1, no, GNOME own KDE
[08:30] <Renan_s2> but I really like WindowMaker :)
[08:31] <fusionxn1> I like the two bars of gnome
[08:31] <livingdaylight> pylo1, gnome owns kde, yea!
[08:31] <Breedcha> how to reset gdm resolution=?
[08:31] <gdb> fusionxn1: You can have as many bars as you like in both GNOME and KDE.
[08:31] <Breedcha> kde owns in java applications.
[08:31] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, you can have multiple panels in KDE, too
[08:31] <fusionxn1> Renan - whats the difference
[08:32] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, the difference between what?
[08:32] <pylo1> cool gnome it is then, but im thinking of fluxbox for a server setup
[08:32] <dooglus> gdb: I'm using an old USB1.1 device for my network access - so it's pretty much always 'full', 'blocking', or whatever you call it
[08:32] <zazeem> fusionxnl: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/4207/print
[08:32] <Renan_s2> pylo1, servers don't run GUI's at all
[08:32] <help-the-n00b> 'gcc: no input files' is the return for the command 'gcc'
[08:32] <fusionxn1> gname and KDE
[08:32] <eck> pylo1: i would think none for a server setup
[08:32] <bthornton> I apologize if this is off-topic, but does anybody know if there's an x86_64 version of ZSNES available in the Ubuntu repos?  I was able to find it with Synaptic on my x86 machine, but can't find it on my x86_64 laptop.
[08:32] <tristanmike> help-the-n00b: what are you exactly trying to do ?
[08:32] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, you will have to try each one to decide what you like
[08:33] <help-the-n00b> Open gcc.
[08:33] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: you need to use google, and read docs - try typing " man gcc " without quotes
[08:33] <fusionxn1> Renan my laptop has KDE
[08:33] <help-the-n00b> I did.
[08:33] <gdb> dooglus: 'blocking' simply means an application is not able to do any work until it's received more data from either the network or the disk, however, the network or disk is, at that moment, busy with another application's request.  So the current application is 'blocked' from getting the data it needs.
[08:33] <_azrael> help-the-n00b: Then you'd know that you don't exactly "open" gcc. You feed it your source files and it spits out object files or executables, depending on how you invoke it.
[08:33] <johnm1019> everytime i star the computer a file browser window opens and so does totem, how can i stop this from happening?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: gcc is a commandline thing - and needs you to read its documnetation to understand it
[08:33] <fusionxn1> renan any functional difference
[08:34] <propan0> after i updated the kernel and booted to the new one my connection stopped working ... i get error  "...unrecognized option nas0" when trying to start pppd  . I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch  and got me online on this kernel.. but not on the updated one :( anyone know whythis could be?
[08:34] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, almost none, but you will need to get used to some things
[08:34] <zazeem> pc linux looks hawt
[08:34] <fusionxn1> Renan im in ubuntu right now
[08:34] <fusionxn1> I find it easier
[08:34] <Renan_s2> yeah
[08:34] <thoreauputic> help-the-n00b: if you want to learn, hit google and start looking - no-one can teach you a compiler in IRC especially with 875 people in the channel
[08:34] <Renan_s2> then you prefer gnome, probably
[08:35] <fusionxn1> yay for me
[08:35] <Breedcha> yayaya
[08:35] <Breedcha> gotta go w98
[08:35] <fusionxn1> Ubuntu is a great OS now i got used to it
[08:36] <fusionxn1> and learnt some stuff
[08:36] <Breedcha> sometime to get back
[08:36] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, same here
[08:36] <fusionxn1> I may go from windows
[08:36] <Renan_s2> I have used many Linux distributions, but the best is Ubuntu :)
[08:36] <fusionxn1> seeing as doom 3 has  alinux bin
[08:36] <andyshack> evening
[08:36] <ardchoille> fusionxn1: Ubuntu is the most awesome-est distro I have ever used.
[08:36] <fusionxn1> Renan i have tried a few but ubuntu gives me a "smooth" feeling
[08:36] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, the same here
[08:37] <Renan_s2> I have used Red Hat, Fedora, Slackware... none of them beat Ubuntu
[08:37] <Eml-> it also gives the feeling: "Hi Im not gonna work with your games"
[08:37] <andyshack> im about to reinstall a dos box and was wondering what would be the best way to leave it so that i could install ubuntu on a seperate partition. just leave whatever space i want for ubuntu as unpartitioned space and install it after xp ?
[08:37] <hbi> fusionxn1, ive had ubuntu for a day and its pretty sweet im seeing functionality thats gonna be in vista i just like the way it runs how customisable it is how easy it is to get an app ... how easy it was to install without worrying bout creating a boot selector it did it for me
[08:37] <fusionxn1> Eml - i game a hell of a lot but you forgot :p
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> andyshack: Yes
[08:37] <fusionxn1> hbi - vista so copied of ubuntu
[08:37] <Renan_s2> I have been running Ubuntu for some 15 days, I think
[08:37] <Renan_s2> after a install of Fedora which had gone total nuts
[08:37] <andyshack> cheers jack
[08:38] <fusionxn1> VISTA EVEN HAS ITS CONTENTS EXTRACTED like ubuntu so its a 20 min install
[08:38] <hbi> fusionxn1, i dont agree but its just whats needed to be done and ubuntu did it first and very well
[08:38] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, and Vista will require 15GB hard drive
[08:38] <dork2> hey, does anyone know a good repository to replace cipherfunk.org? (Which seems to be down)
[08:38] <Eml-> hahaha??
[08:38] <Eml-> 15GB :D
[08:38] <fusionxn1> hbi - well i think microsoft is trying to wipe out linux
[08:38] <propan0> anyone know why pppd would stop working (i get error  "...unrecognized option nas0") after i updated mykernel form 2.6.15-23-386 to 2.6.15-26-386  ?
[08:38] <bl3ssing> I want KUBUNTU 6.0.6. How can I have it on my cd so that I could install it anytime I need it?
[08:38] <Eml-> lol @ microsoft
[08:38] <tristanmike> fusionxn1: 40GB if you want Aero
[08:38] <fusionxn1> Eml yes
[08:38] <Eml-> microsoft = sux
[08:38] <fusionxn1> I have tried vista (latets build last night)
[08:38] <fusionxn1> latest*
[08:38] <Renan_s2> my Linux partition has 10GB and works great :)
[08:39] <fusionxn1> Its a system hog and has not all of linux functionality
[08:39] <Renan_s2> with lots of applications, editors, compilers, technical applications...
[08:39] <fusionxn1> PLUS its annoying
[08:39] <Eml-> lol
[08:39] <Eml-> and it crashes
[08:39] <Eml-> i bet it does
[08:39] <fusionxn1> YES
[08:39] <Eml-> :DD
[08:39] <hbi> fusionxn1, theyve been trying to wipe every1 out since they started and with how un every day user friendly vista is what with the hardware specs it will take a while for it to be really popular
[08:39] <Eml-> Nice job Bill!
[08:39] <fusionxn1> It always asks so and so is tring to run so and so accept? Yes over and over
[08:39] <Eml-> you screw it up again
[08:39] <fusionxn1> Vista is a wizard freak
[08:40] <Renan_s2> Vista will require a brand new machine :/
[08:40] <fusionxn1> Treats you like a dumbass
[08:40] <hbi> but people are ignorant so microsoft will win because they dont like change and wont try a different os
[08:40] <Renan_s2> hbi, many people use Windows-specific applications
[08:40] <Eml-> well gameplayers shouldnt change
[08:40] <fusionxn1> hbi - i disagree its dell etc installing windows by default
[08:40] <Eml-> its pain in the ass trying to get games work in linux
[08:40] <tristanmike> we are going quite off topic here.....we should get back on topic
[08:40] <fusionxn1> Renan thats always better linux alternatives
[08:40] <fusionxn1> theres*
[08:41] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, not always
[08:41] <hbi> but i will always love windows and linux
[08:41] <propan0> can nobody help me? :>
[08:41] <jonah1980> hi, i can't seem to mount a second hardisk i added, can someone please help me out?
[08:41] <tristanmike> propan0: what's the issue
[08:41] <Renan_s2> for instance, there is no Linux alternative for Flash
[08:41] <propan0> after i updated the kernel and booted to the new one my connection stopped working ... i get error  "...unrecognized option nas0" when trying to start pppd  . I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch  and got me online on this kernel (2.6.15-23-386).. but not on the updated one (2.6.15-26-386) :( anyone know whythis could be?
[08:41] <Spy_> hey can sum1 help me with lamp, it seems php4 is not working.. IF i try and access a .php file on my server it asks whether i want to download the file
[08:41] <fusionxn1> Flash player?
[08:41] <commctrl> Renan_s2, early 2007, adobe's putting out a linux flash player and editor
[08:41] <fusionxn1> Ya there is
[08:41] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, not the player
[08:41] <tristanmike> Renan_s2: shockwave, there's no linux alternative for shockware, there is flash
[08:41] <fusionxn1> Flash 9 beta = october
[08:41] <Renan_s2> fusionxn1, I hope so
[08:42] <propan0> going desperate... me linux friends cant help me out :X
[08:42] <fusionxn1> Ubuntu FTW
[08:42] <Renan_s2> propan0, USB modems are a problem under Linux
[08:42] <tristanmike> sorry propan0, that's way beyond my scope...did you check linuxquestions.org ?
[08:42] <Renan_s2> I gave up installing one recently
[08:42] <bthornton> Is anybody having problems with their panels becoming unresponsive in GNOME?  Particularly on logout; I can't logout without killing the X session because the panels hard-lock.
[08:43] <Eml-> linux still lacks Device and Game support
[08:43] <propan0> nope i havent, will do tristanmike
[08:43] <jonah1980> i installed the new drive and reformatted it with a livecd to ext3, it's showing up in "Computer" folder but if i right clikc and hit mount i get an error message
[08:43] <Eml-> that makes it g.a.y
[08:43] <andyshack> can i get a 5.10 disk to do a netinstall of 6.stable for me ?
[08:43] <propan0> yeah i know Renan_s2 ... but no choice for now
[08:43] <jonah1980> please can anyone guide me on this...
[08:43] <Renan_s2> Eml-, the hardware support must come from the manufacturers
[08:43] <propan0> u can thank telefonica for it
[08:43] <bthornton> The panels also crash whenever I use Alacarte to edit the menus and when I relocate the panels on the screen.
[08:43] <propan0> hehe
[08:43] <Renan_s2> propan0, :(
[08:43] <propan0> yeah :(
[08:43] <Renan_s2> if you have the money, then try to buy an Ethernet modem
[08:43] <Eml-> Renan_s2 tr00
[08:43] <Spy_> can sum1 help me wioth lamp please...
[08:43] <Eml-> when are we gonna get good linux support for our devices :<
[08:44] <propan0> i doubt telefonica would let me configure it properly unless i buy one from them
[08:44] <bthornton> Spy_: Maybe; what's wrong?
[08:44] <hbi> right i got a nooby question cause ive been using synaptic package manager i aint had to worry about installing software blah blah ... well i downloaded the source of Wireshark off the site cause i cant get it on the package manager .... how do u install the source?
[08:44] <Eml-> please make it happen
[08:44] <Eml-> im beggin
[08:44] <propan0> i have 2 at home heh
[08:44] <Renan_s2> propan0, :(
[08:44] <dork2> hey, does anyone know a good repository to replace cipherfunk.org? (Which seems to be down)
[08:44] <Zmocktard> hi all
[08:44] <propan0> yeah like mafia
[08:44] <Spy_> bthornton : it wont run .php files, it asks me if i want to download them
[08:44] <tristanmike> jonah1980: when you say "computer" folder, you don't mean in Windows do you ?
[08:44] <ardchoille> jonah1980: It might help us if you can pastebin the error message
[08:44] <commctrl> Eml-, the kernel is there, the interface is there, manufacturers just don't care
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi: By reading the installation notes on the site where you found the program
[08:44] <jonah1980> tristanmike, no ubuntu
[08:44] <bthornton> Spy_: Ah that's an easy fix but I can't remember exactly what; you change something in httpd.conf
[08:45] <bthornton> hmm...
[08:45] <Spy_> httpd.conf is empty and it says i should use a2enmod instead
[08:45] <bthornton> Spy_: hold on; I'll check my config
[08:45] <santa99> how can i look if certain packages are installed on my computer ?
[08:45] <tristanmike> jonah1980: ahh, I see,
[08:45] <Spy_> But in a2enmod php4 is already enabled
[08:45] <ardchoille> tristanmike: jonah1980 is talking about the computer:/// location in nautilus
[08:45] <tristanmike> jonah1980: pastebin the error message
[08:45] <bthornton> Spy_: Oh.... wow.  Never heard of that.  As far as I know, Apache won't run without a config file.
[08:45] <tristanmike> ardchoille: yeah, took me second there
[08:45] <danf_1979> I want to install Ubuntu on a dedicated server. The problem is that they only install RH and CentOS. Can I install for example RH, then login and use the swap partition to format all other partitions and setup a debian/ubuntu sistem?
[08:45] <jonah1980> http://pastebin.ca/102620
[08:45] <Spy_> mm well the httpd.conf is empty, any idea what to put in it?
[08:46] <commctrl> danf_1979, it's not your computer?
[08:46] <danf_1979> no, no, remote...
[08:46] <bthornton> Spy_: It's a fairly extensive configuration file when it's complete.  It is possible, but not fun, to write one from scratch.
[08:46] <bthornton> Spy_: How did you install Apache?
[08:46] <Spy_> apt-get
[08:46] <ardchoille> danf_1979: You might wanna get their permision before installing an distro that they don't offer
[08:46] <tristanmike> jonah1980: what's in your fstab file ?
[08:46] <Spy_> think i should re-install?
[08:46] <santa99> isn't there a possibility ?
[08:46] <bthornton> Spy_: What distro?
[08:47] <Spy_> 6.0 dapper thingy
[08:47] <danf_1979> I did ardchoille
[08:47] <ardchoille> danf_1979: Ahh, good job :)
[08:47] <bthornton> Spy_: ok.  am checking my files...
[08:47] <jonah1980> tristanmike, sorry it's been a while for me with hardisks, how do i find the fstab file?
[08:47] <Spy_> the apache server works though
[08:47] <danf_1979> the problem is that I dont want them to install it for me
[08:47] <tristanmike> jonah1980: /etc/fstab
[08:48] <jonah1980> tristanmike, http://pastebin.ca/102625
[08:48] <bthornton> Spy_: Ah, the config file is no longer httpd.conf; you want to be looking at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf .
[08:48] <bthornton> Spy_: And the config parameter you need is....
[08:49] <Spy_> ah it is indeed
[08:49] <tristanmike> jonah1980: I would think you need to add an entry here
[08:49] <jonah1980> tristanmike, why is this not automated, and how would i know what to add?
[08:50] <danf_1979> I think the RH and CentOS installation is automatized, so I can install it on my own using their own web system. Can I end installing ubuntu, as leave no trace of RH in the new ubuntu installation? I think I could use the swap partition to format all other partitions, mount them and install the system
[08:50] <bthornton> Spy_: I'm looking up the parameter as we speak; however, I also installed LAMP via apt-get and did not need to manually edit any config files to get *.php files to execute.  I'm wondering if perhaps you didn't install something, or if something went awry during install?
[08:50] <danf_1979> I have never done it though
[08:50] <danf_1979> as = and, my mistake
[08:50] <jonah1980> tristanmike, seems odd it would show up but then still need manual intervention to mount it
[08:50] <tristanmike> jonah1980: we're not talking a usb removable drive are we ?
[08:50] <Spy_> bthornton : well actually i had php & apache working but not with mysql
[08:50] <Mewshi> what's the world's oldest news server?
[08:50] <commctrl> danf_1979, you can't boot to the swap partition, and it's not your computer. ask the owners to install it
[08:51] <Spy_> I couldn't get mysql to work so i removed all and started again and that is where i am now
[08:51] <jonah1980> tristanmike, no it's an internal hardisk, 160gb Samsung
[08:51] <tristanmike> yeah, ok
[08:51] <bl3ssing> how can I install my tar.gz file?
[08:51] <fusionxn1> Is there an APT-GET for kcheckers?
[08:51] <Spy_> according to this config file however php4 is definately being loaded
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  Are you just trying to automount a drive?
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Sorry I came in late
[08:52] <thansen> what are the most popular "extra" repositories for dapper?
[08:52] <commctrl> bl3ssing, what is it? source or a .deb package?
[08:52] <andyshack> i notice in the downloads that ubuntu 6.06 is available for sparc ? is this officially going to be supported ?
[08:52] <gdb> thansen: "Universe" and "Multiverse"
[08:52] <Spy_> bthornton : how do i restart my apache server
[08:52] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, hi i installed a second hardrive, it shows up in "Computer" in nautilus but won't mount on right click: http://pastebin.ca/102625
[08:52] <thansen> and does anyone know of a repo with the lastfm player in it?
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bl3ssing: By reading the installation notes where you got that file
[08:52] <bl3ssing> it is a deb package
[08:52] <andyshack> i have two ultra 80s that id love to whack it on
[08:52] <gdb> They are the equivlants, more or less, of Extras and Livna for Fedora (your question implies a Fedora background).
[08:52] <commctrl> bl3ssing, then why isn't it named .deb?
[08:52] <bl3ssing> Jack_Sparrow, wrong version. Give me another one. :D
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: What type of partitions?
[08:52] <Asc> jonah: where would you like to mount it?
[08:52] <thansen> gdb: aside from those components? :)
[08:52] <bl3ssing> because it is not a source.
[08:52] <bl3ssing> :D
[08:52] <bl3ssing> commctrl,
[08:53] <gdb> thansen: Ah, that I can't answer then.
[08:53] <gdb> Sorry!
[08:53] <bthornton> Spy_: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[08:53] <bl3ssing> i know i can get into the konsole
[08:53] <bl3ssing> and ... get into the system as sudo
[08:53] <bl3ssing> but ... how can I get to the file which's on my desktop?
[08:53] <bl3ssing> and ... i know i have to use the dpkg command, but how?
[08:53] <bl3ssing> :)
[08:53] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, well i formatted it with livecd as it wouldn't let me just within ubuntu qtparted, so i booted live ubuntu disk and used gnome partition editor on menu - formated it to a new ext3 partition
[08:53] <commctrl> bl3ssing, .deb is a pre-compiled program that just has to be installed, usually .tar.gz is used for program sources
[08:54] <Spy_> you missed the 2 at the end but thanks
[08:54] <commctrl> bl3ssing, /home/user/Desktop, man dpkg
[08:54] <bl3ssing> wow ... than you're right commctrl ...
[08:54] <gdb> bl3ssing: In the Desktop directory in your home directory.
[08:54] <Spy_> SWEET!!!
[08:54] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, when i right click the drive in nautilus and press mount i get this: http://pastebin.ca/102630
[08:54] <Spy_> bthornton it is working now, thanks a lot
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: are you using gksudo nautilus?
[08:55] <bl3ssing> how can I get in home directory commctrl ? pls?
[08:55] <bl3ssing> i am as a sudo ...
[08:55] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, no i just went straight into Computer in places menu and tried to mount it with right click there
[08:55] <bl3ssing> and ... tried: cd home
[08:55] <bl3ssing> and nothing ...
[08:55] <commctrl> bl3ssing, cd ~
[08:55] <bthornton> Spy_: cool, glad it works
[08:56] <Spy_> okay now for mysql
[08:56] <gdb> bl3ssing: Just open konsole and you're there.
[08:56] <Spy_> hehe
[08:56] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, just tried gksudo nautilus also and got same error
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Just trying to stay on same page as you..
[08:56] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: just typing  cd  <enter> will always take you back to /home/yourusernme
[08:57] <Red-Sox> !sources
[08:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:57] <danf_1979> commctrl, I dont want to boot into swap. I want to turn it off, make it ext3 chroot into, install debian in the other partitions, then chroot again, and reformat swap (?)
[08:57] <danf_1979> sounds doable?
[08:57] <Asc> jonah1980: to mount the disk, we need do do at least two things.  First, we need to know where to mount it - the folder you want to open to get to it - and second, we need to mount it.  Once we've established the first, we can try the second.
[08:57] <XplOzIon> can anyone help me with SABnzb?
[08:57] <IVANGOTOY> can anyone help me add new linux kernel version to my ubuntu?
[08:57] <Guhru> ??<Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[08:57] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, sorry - i hope you can help me out, been messing with this for ages and it just doesn't make sense! i don't get how it shows up and why it won't just mount
[08:58] <commctrl> danf_1979, for the third and final time: It is not your computer. Ask the person who owns the computer.
[08:58] <danf_1979> So? This will not destroy it
[08:58] <jonah1980> Asc, ok that sounds great, what should i do to achieve this?
[08:58] <echeese> I can't install libsdl1.2-dev
[08:58] <commctrl> danf_1979, Randall L. Schwartz got charged with a felony for less
[08:58] <MenZa> !kernel > XplOzIon
[08:58] <Spy_> bthornton : actually mysql is working because my phpmyadmin is now running.. great, so um how do i set my root password for mysql?
[08:58] <MenZa> If it's not there, there are guides on the forums.
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Have you tried editing your fstab manually
[08:59] <Asc> jonah1980: Pick a folder to mount it at.  I usually put extra disks at a folder on my desktop, but that's just me.
[08:59] <danf_1979> Are you saying what I'm trying to do is illegal?
[08:59] <XplOzIon> MenZa, i didnt ask about kernel
[08:59] <commctrl> danf_1979, no, unless it says so in the contract you signed when renting the server
[08:59] <fusionxn1> Anyone help me install kcheckers
[08:59] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, no i don't really know what to edit! can you help me do it please?
[08:59] <MenZa> Wrong one, XplOzIon--sorry :)
[08:59] <gdb> Spy_: get to the monitor and type 'set password for root@localhost=password('newpassword');' and then 'set password for root@yourhostname=password('newpassword');
[09:00] <XplOzIon> MenZa, its okes ;)
[09:00] <danf_1979> It doesn't
[09:00] <Pikciurna> i have adsl conexant adapter, ubuntu can`t detect it, and i can`t find drivers for it, any advise?
[09:00] <MenZa> fusionxn1, do--not--highlight at random.
[09:00] <fusionxn1> huh?
[09:00] <gdb> Spy_: you have 2 root users by default.  One from localhost and one from your hostname.
[09:00] <MenZa> Er.
[09:00] <Spy_> thanks
[09:00] <MenZa> That was my client, sorry.
[09:00] <MenZa> !info kcheckers
[09:00] <gdb> Spy_: sure thing
[09:00] <ubotu> Package kcheckers does not exist in dapper
[09:00] <lmh> have a problem: I try to mount an XFS-Partition, but it gives me a strange error: mount -t xfs /dev/sda1 /fileserv/foto   -   mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /fileserv/foto busy
[09:00] <fusionxn1> lol
[09:00] <ardchoille> bbiab :)
[09:00] <MenZa> Just checking if it was in the repos :)
[09:00] <gdb> Spy_: you can see this by doing this: select user, host, password from mysql.user;
[09:01] <Myrth> hi, i've moved harddrive with ubuntu 5.10 from one computer to another, with asus motherboard and onboard nic. it didn't run GUI nor found any eth.. i've tried putting USRobotics and D-Link nics, with no result. when i run desktopcd 6.06 it's fine with gui and finds the nic... what can i do?
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: go to term gksudo gedit          browse to etc/fstab and add entry as needed.
[09:01] <jonah1980> Asc, I just want it to be next to my other hardrive, in "Computer" - where it already shows up, and you know just in a normal internal harddisk place, don't need it on desktop or anything
[09:01] <fusionxn1> :'( i cant install it
[09:01] <lmh> so i deleted /filesystem/foto and remkdir-ed it, still not working
[09:01] <ttyfscker> sup fusionxn1
[09:01] <fusionxn1> hey ttyf :)
[09:01] <MenZa> fusionxn1, is it a deb package? source? rpm?
[09:01] <ballpointcarrot> anyone have experience rewriting the DSDT on a laptop?
[09:01] <fusionxn1> .tar.gz
[09:01] <fusionxn1> i try install it i get errors
[09:01] <ttyfscker> i got the 2.6.18-rc2 up
[09:01] <lmh> could it be a prob of my kernel?
[09:01] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[09:02] <fusionxn1> ttyf i got it extracted and i "make" i get errors
[09:02] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, ok i've got fstab open but what entry shall i put?
[09:02] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: pastebin the error
[09:02] <fusionxn1> k 1 mo
[09:02] <lmh> nobody an idea?
[09:02] <Asc> jonah1890: That's not something I've tried before.  I'll work on it for a minute.
[09:02] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: pastebin as much of the output as you can
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: I dont know what partitions / drives you have.  But since you are there save a backup of your fstab
[09:02] <jonah1980> Asc, thanks
[09:03] <fusionxn1> pdn.cc:453: error: QString does not name a type
[09:03] <fusionxn1> make: *** [pdn.o]  Error 1
[09:03] <echeese> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19039
[09:03] <srikat> would xgl+compiz work on 64 bit nvidia using the procedure @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222034 ?
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  can you post your fstab to pastebin
[09:03] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, shall i just save it and put .bak?
[09:03] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1::  use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the entire make output
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[09:04] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.ca/102637
[09:04] <echeese> srikat, I'm using xgl+compiz on AMD64 dapper with nvidia
[09:04] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: what are you trying to build?
[09:04] <lmh> can nobody help me?
[09:04] <radam> hi. I cannot remeber which file I need to change to alter how my command line prompt looks (i.e the format of 'radam@host:~#')
[09:04] <srikat> echeese, can you pls point me to the xgl setting up instructions?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1:  are you running Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[09:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:04] <lmh> radam: have a look into ~/.bashrc
[09:04] <XplOzIon> anyone knows/use/installed SABnzb i need some help
[09:05] <radam> lmh: isnt there a global one?
[09:05] <echeese> Can someone help me install SDL?
[09:05] <echeese> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19039
[09:05] <lmh> radam: bash.bashrc
[09:05] <fusionxn1> Ubuntu AND done
[09:05] <fusionxn1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19041
[09:05] <lmh> radam: /etc/bash.bashrc
[09:05] <bl3ssing> thoreauputic, when I'm typing cd ... and than dir, I get this message: dbootstrap_settings
[09:05] <radam> lmh: thanks
[09:06] <rogerio> falae moada
[09:06] <bl3ssing> which perhaps means that I'm not on the /home/myusername ... local.
[09:06] <rogerio> tudo a pampa
[09:06] <lmh> Nobody an idea why I can't mount my Partition?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: ?
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1: Kcheckers implies it is for KDE which will work, but needs a lot of the KDE stuff brought in.
[09:06] <lmh> radam: np
[09:06] <fusionxn1> Oh, anit there another checkers game?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing:  typing "cd" takes you to your $HOME directory
[09:06] <kernel32> fuck you all
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> JUSt trying to point that out
[09:06] <echeese> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19039
[09:06] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: that game is probably part of a kgames package
[09:06] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: hang on a sec
[09:06] <bl3ssing> kernel32, why are you speaking like that?
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Look for Gcheckers maybe?
[09:07] <fusionxn1> k ty
[09:07] <srikat> Jack_Sparrow, does this wiki page open up for ya? -->  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager
[09:07] <bl3ssing> thoreauputic, even when i'm as a sudo?
[09:07] <bl3ssing> am I in the home directory?
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Thay have been slow checking now
[09:07] <srikat> for some reason the wiki is extremely slow for me and when any wiki page does load, it's empty
[09:07] <lmh> have a problem: I try to mount an XFS-Partition, but it gives me a strange error: mount -t xfs /dev/sda1 /fileserv/foto   -   mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /fileserv/foto busy
[09:07] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: gtkboard
[09:07] <fusionxn1> that one/
[09:07] <ttyfscker> fusionxn1:: sudo apt-get install gtkboard
[09:08] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow: in system, disk manger it also show up as /dev/hdc and this is my fstab http://pastebin.ca/102637
[09:08] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: you can't "be sudo" - are you root? In that case cd takes you to /root
[09:08] <fusionxn1> done
[09:08] <fusionxn1> now?
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1 I found a checkers in the repos..
[09:08] <ttyfscker> see if gtkboard runs anything
[09:08] <srikat> echeese, can you pls point me to the xgl setting up instructions?
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1 gtk board games
[09:08] <echeese> srikat, google it
[09:09] <ttyfscker> Jack_Sparrow:: i done told him that one
[09:09] <ttyfscker> he's tryin to figure it out now
[09:09] <fusionxn1> Oo! checkers thanks
[09:09] <ttyfscker> np
[09:09] <srikat> echeese, I did and found http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427...that topic is closed. Can you look at it and let me know if that would work?
[09:09] <bl3ssing> yes thoreauputic
[09:09] <bl3ssing> if I'm not a root, than I assume I won't be able to install my tar.gz file, right?
[09:10] <lmh> thoreauputic: could you probably help me with my prob?
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> srikat:  Yes it opens
[09:10] <bl3ssing> lmh, what's your pb ?
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry I took so long
[09:10] <tapio> How do i figure out if my computer is using both cores properly? (core duo)
[09:10] <yo> who have modeam ale150?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: you use sudo - for instance, only the "make install" command requires that
[09:11] <lmh> bl3ssing: I try to mount an XFS-Partition, but it gives me a strange error: mount -t xfs /dev/sda1 /fileserv/foto   -   mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /fileserv/foto busy
[09:11] <mbuf> i tried installed edubuntu on T41 that already has ubuntu dapper beta and installed grub to MBR, now system is not booting - error message "GRUB Loading Stage 1.5. Grub loading, please wait ... Error 18" - I am not able to enter into BIOS either :(
[09:11] <fusionxn1> Where do you find all these apt-gets ?
[09:11] <dan_> ubuntu 5.1 3d screensaver does not work
[09:11] <srikat> Jack_Sparrow, do you see any content there or is that page blank?
[09:11] <lmh> bl3ssing: but it isn't mounted
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I see content
[09:11] <mutante> fusionxn1: apt-cache search <keyword>
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> pmount or something
[09:11] <thoreauputic> lmh: the error seems to be saying it is already mounted?
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> srikat:  No.....
[09:12] <mbuf> what do i do ?
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> It was still on the old page..
[09:12] <bl3ssing> lmh, i thing that xfs-partition's already mounted.
[09:12] <bl3ssing> this is what the message's saying: BUSY~
[09:12] <bl3ssing> :)
[09:12] <bl3ssing> lmh,
[09:12] <lmh> bl3ssing: that's what it says, but it isn't: umount /fileserv/foto umount: /fileserv/foto: not mounted
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for lunch, everyone behave yourselves...
[09:12] <pike_> tapio: you have a n smp kernel 'uname -a'? what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
[09:12] <bl3ssing> try do umount first
[09:12] <fusionxn1> Would people say VLC is the best player for linux?
[09:12] <bl3ssing> and than remount again ... maybe'll work.
[09:12] <pike_> fusionxn1: mplayer
[09:13] <lmh> bl3ssing: no, it doesn't work
[09:13] <pike_> fusionxn1: id say vlc is easiest
[09:13] <fusionxn1> i had mplayer on windows :)
[09:13] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.ca/102637
[09:13] <Asc> jonah1890: I have come to the conclusion that I have no idea how to make it appear in computer:///
[09:13] <lmh> bl3ssing: mount -t xfs /dev/sda1 /fileserv/foto --> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /fileserv/foto busy
[09:14] <jonah1980> Asc, thanks for trying - Jack_Sparrow seems to be onto it, but i don't get why such a simple thing is so complex
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  What is your second drive sata or ide?
[09:14] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, ide, but my main drive is sata2
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:15] <bl3ssing> lmh, the problem's unknown for me ... you should ask the KING OF KUBUNTU! :(
[09:15] <echeese>  Depends: mesa-common-dev (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but 6.5.1-cvs20060628 is to be installed
[09:15] <Asc> jonah1890: it's probably because the computer:/// directory is not controlled by any known entity. :p  I think I could mount the drive, but that is something beyond me.
[09:15] <bl3ssing> if I was you, I'll just unmount everything, and mount that "everything" again, but first the xfs partition... than the others.
[09:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  IS your second drive a slave behind your cdrom?
[09:15] <lmh> bl3ssing: who is the king of Kubuntu?
[09:16] <bl3ssing> who created it?
[09:16] <bl3ssing> :)
[09:16] <bl3ssing> lmh,
[09:16] <bl3ssing> you got it, right?:)
[09:16] <bl3ssing> they must know the pb for sure.
[09:16] <bl3ssing> maybe's something wrong with the kernel ... so that's why I recommended you them ...
[09:16] <H080J03> how do you make it so when you press shift and backspace it wont resart your session?
[09:17] <Myrth> Jack_Sparrow: where would i check first if linux doesn't find nic? nothing in ifconfig, ip li, dmesg
[09:17] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, no it's a master on it's own cable with nothing else
[09:17] <lmh> bl3ssing: I use a XEN - Kernel, could it be connected to that?
[09:17] <oem> dsff
[09:17] <Myrth> Jack_Sparrow: livecd sees it, but not installed
[09:17] <fusionxn1> Isnt firefox 1505 out today?
[09:17] <srikat> am getting GPG Errors when I do "apt-get update". How do I fix those?
[09:17] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, cos my main drive has a dif connection so cd got it's own and other hardrive got it's own, i thought this would be better
[09:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  It is probably on second IDE bus then.. np
[09:18] <echeese> Er, can someone help me out with my question PLEASE?
[09:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  Is there only one partition on it?
[09:18] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, np! yeah just one big old partition
[09:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ext3
[09:19] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, yup
[09:19] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:19] <ThomazLeite> anybody know how to make listen recognize ipod?
[09:19] <echeese> hello?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> echeese: most likely no-one knows
[09:19] <srikat> am getting GPG Errors when I do "apt-get update". How do I fix those? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19044
[09:19] <fusionxn1> Sorry, how do i search apt-get again
[09:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: See if that change makes sense
[09:20] <echeese> Are the repositories broken?
[09:20] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, what change?
[09:20] <lz1gjd> !ld10k1
[09:20] <Jack_Sparrow> pastebin
[09:20] <magical_trevskyy> is the export option in phpmyadmin the best way to backup a mysql database?
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ld10k1 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:20] <lz1gjd> !qlo10k1
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about qlo10k1 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:20] <thoreauputic> fusionxn1:  apt-cache search <keywords>
[09:20] <fusionxn1> ta
[09:21] <srikat> magical_trevskyy, yes....export both data and structure
[09:21] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, sorry i'm not with you, what are we changing?
[09:21] <srikat> Yamaraj, take me to narak pls :)
[09:21] <fusionxn1> how do i get something SUDO apt-get....
[09:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Trying to add in the new drive last line..
[09:21] <H080J03> how do you make it so when you press shift and backspace it wont resart your session?
[09:21] <fusionxn1> nv i got it
[09:21] <echeese> Are the repositories broken?
[09:22] <lz1gjd> hey, is there an ubuntu guide for how to load dsp modules for emu10k1 based sound cards ?
[09:22] <srikat> fusionxn1, Applications -> Add/Remove applications, clk 'Advanced' and you can search for packages there
[09:22] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, but what should i add in? and also so the link in computer matches the drive?
[09:22] <oculto> Hi everyone!
[09:23] <magical_trevskyy> srikat, thanks :)
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Start with the fstab edit
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> WHo is good with fstab editing, please verify the last line of this fstab   http://pastebin.ca/102651
[09:23] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, the "Computer" link i mean in nautilus needs to open the drive etc - yeah i've got the fstab open again but unsure what to enter in. also will i need to reboot for it take effect?
[09:23] <dooglus> H080J03: Section "ServerFlags" Option "DontZap" "yes" EndSection
[09:23] <dooglus> H080J03: in xorg.conf
[09:23] <oculto> Does anybody here knows how to remove the media icons from the desktop at Ubuntu?
[09:23] <Yamaraj> Is Edgy Eft stable enough to be used on a laptop?
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: restart x after
[09:24] <H080J03> thank you a bunch
[09:24] <amee2k> hi all
[09:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: add the last line in the pastebin to fstab..
[09:24] <amee2k> i'm on a fresh ubuntu server 6.06 install and mounted an already existing XFS partition. when i do "ls -l" some directory names on it are printed highlighted: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/169/sshotib7.png -- what's special about them?
[09:24] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, when i goto disks in System, Admin or wherever the disk shows up as dev/hdc not b1 though??
[09:24] <dooglus> H080J03: I don't know if you need to put that on multiple lines or not.
[09:24] <H080J03> cuz i always restart my ses while typing
[09:24] <H080J03> i think you do
[09:24] <alienseer23> hello
[09:24] <dooglus> H080J03: the sequence is control+alt+backspace.  how can you hit those 3 accidentally?
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: what does it show for partitions
[09:25] <funkja> Is there a mythtv package for Ubuntu?
[09:26] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, hdc1
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know of a quick way to create my own icon (if I can) right now with the default ubuntu software
[09:26] <jrib> !info mythtv
[09:26] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:26] <amee2k> any ideas?
[09:26] <jrib> !multiverse > funkja
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Do you see the enable/disable button
[09:26] <dinamizador> oooooo
[09:27] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, yeah but it doesn't do anything - also access path says "none"
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: and if you select change?
[09:27] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, then i get an open dialog to choose from
[09:27] <alienseer23> !x consortium
[09:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about x consortium - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:28] <killaz> guys can you help me with my sound settings?
[09:28] <MarcN> funkja: there are newer MythTV 0.19 packages available in someone's private repository.  Worked great for me.
[09:28] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, should i still add to the fstab and should i keep it how you said or put hdc1?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: and do you see the drive listed on the left
[09:28] <alienseer23> I need a little help :|
[09:28] <killaz> I just installed teamspeak...
[09:28] <funkja> MarcN : do you remember what they were?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> leave fstab for now
[09:28] <Saquena> hi all
[09:28] <killaz> and suddenly my sound using Enemy territory wont work.... in combination with Teamspea
[09:28] <give> alien: what kind of help?
[09:29] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, on the left of the open dialog box, no - but the hard disk is on the left of the Disk Manager window
[09:29] <Saquena> a coworker told me that if i wanted to learn lenux i should choose ubuntu, cuz it was designed for black people, is dat true ?
[09:29] <killaz> how can I fix this?
[09:29] <MarcN> funkja: I'll look.
[09:29] <alienseer23> I would love to know how to turn of anything using "X" so I can do an NVidia installation...?
[09:29] <Renan_s2> alienseer23, press CTRL+ALT+F1 then login
[09:29] <Saquena> anyone can hear me ?
[09:29] <Saquena> hello ?
[09:29] <jrib> Saquena: hi
[09:29] <alienseer23> Renan, than turns off all X?
[09:29] <amee2k> Saquena: yeah
[09:30] <alienseer23> it is that simple?
[09:30] <Renan_s2> alienseer23, that switches to text mode
[09:30] <Saquena> ah ok !
[09:30] <alienseer23> ...
[09:30] <Renan_s2> then type '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' if using Ubuntu or '/etc/init.d/kdm stop' if using Kubuntu
[09:30] <bl3ssing> what's the command for reintializationg my sound card driver so that I could listen again to the mms player music list?
[09:30] <alienseer23> and to revert I just reboot?
[09:30] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, if i click format though it gives option for access path, like /boot /home /mnt etc
[09:30] <Saquena> so what about what he said ?
[09:30] <pike_> alienseer23:sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then start or restart to turn back on
[09:30] <amee2k> tho no idea about your question. maybe have a look at the ubuntu page or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ubuntu
[09:30] <rickbauls> alienseer23, i'd do a killall gdm after that
[09:31] <MarcN> funkja: http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper/ is the respository, use "deb  http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper ./" in your sources.list and read here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747
[09:31] <rickbauls> alienseer23, then after finishing install do sudo gdm and if install went right all will work
[09:31] <amee2k> Saquena: the name ubuntu comes from an african word, that may be the source of the rumour...
[09:31] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, do you think i still need to edit my fstab then? or should i format and choose an access path? i don't have a clue what to do!!
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  I would add hdc1
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: It is an odd problem
[09:31] <Saquena> amee2k ?
[09:31] <alienseer23> I shall call you HERO
[09:31] <Saquena> what distro do you recommand then
[09:31] <amee2k> hm..?
[09:31] <Saquena> i very very new to lenux
[09:32] <alienseer23> lemme go give it a try:)
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: you do se the hdc1 in partitions right
[09:32] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, i don't know why it should be odd though!
[09:32] <bl3ssing> lmh, you should try to find the connection between XEN - Kernel and XFS Partition availability!
[09:32] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, yeah it says partition 1 , dev/hdc1 when i click on that partition
[09:32] <amee2k> Saquena: well, i use many. ubuntu, gentoo, debian. each is good for a certain purpose. ubuntu ans suse (which i stopped using some time ago however) seem to be pretty easy to use, compared with, like, gentoo
[09:33] <hangfire> Saquena- use Slackware
[09:33] <Saquena> well i want something that is friendly
[09:33] <Saquena> cuz i told u, i am new to lenux
[09:33] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, ok i've changed the fstab file but will that mean it'll be in "Computer" or not? and also should i change the access path to something?
[09:33] <Saquena> coworker told me ubuntu was perfect for black folks, so is not true ?
[09:33] <Saquena> what should i choose then
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: I would only change ONE thing at a time..
[09:33] <fusionxn1> is there a "ctrl alt delete" and alt tab in ubuntu?
[09:34] <XplOzIon> anyone know how can i make a symlink work for ftp server?
[09:34] <rickbauls> Saquena, just for future reference, it's Linux not lenux
[09:34] <Saquena> he told me about another one
[09:34] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, ok so how do i restart x to see if it works?
[09:34] <Saquena> fredora
[09:34] <amee2k> Saquena: that question is like "what car brand should i drive?" try a few and see
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Saquena: Operating systems dont care about the color of your skin.
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> good luck
[09:34] <thoreauputic> *cough* troll alert
[09:34] <olrrai> hi again: I havent services.conf !?!?
[09:35] <Saquena> ok i will try ubuntu
[09:35] <Saquena> how does it work ?
[09:35] <fusionxn1> ubuntu FTW
[09:35] <ep> I  intend to purchase a wired router for home environment, any considerations specific to ubuntu?  Local BestBuy has Dlink EBR-2310 for $40.  Does this suck?
[09:35] <Saquena> can i order cds ?
[09:35] <amee2k> well, like linux
[09:35] <fusionxn1> they take 6 - 8 weeks
[09:35] <thoreauputic> !shipit
[09:35] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[09:35] <amee2k> you can even download images - free and legally
[09:35] <olrrai> hi again: I havent services.conf !?!? any idea?
[09:35] <give> Saquena: You know how to use irc but not how to download ubuntu?
[09:36] <Saquena> coworker showed me how to come here
[09:36] <amee2k> with something like vmware server (free too) you can try it without wasting CD-Rs :)
[09:36] <mneptok> ahoyhoy
[09:36] <Saquena> said it was full of people like me
[09:36] <Saquena> i see he lied to me ...
[09:36] <mneptok> anyone here from Montreal?
[09:36] <olrrai> why ubuntu has not services.conf ?
[09:36] <Saquena> i am from montreal mneptok
[09:36] <killaz> whats the package name for alsa dmix?
[09:36] <Saquena> and i am black too
[09:36] <Saquena> are you black ?
[09:36] <amee2k> no
[09:36] <hypnox> trolll
[09:36] <amee2k> yes
[09:36] <give> im black and from montreal too. what a coincidence.
[09:36] <echeese> Totem could not startup: Could not establish connection to sound server
[09:36] <Saquena> :(
[09:36] <Saquena> give thats good
[09:37] <Saquena> what part of montreal are you from
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Saquena: Do you have a point or are you just trolling.  We are helping people here, you can take the chat to #Offtopic
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Saquena: this isn't a chat channel and you are on thin  ice with your racial references
[09:37] <Saquena> Jack be polite please
[09:37] <Saquena> i am not very tolerant of racist remark
[09:37] <eXistenZ> I'm not black, I'm yellow.
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> THat was polite.. wanna see a ban
[09:37] <Saquena> are you racist or what ?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Saquena: please take your random chat elsewhere
[09:37] <b1shop> post install.  where the hell did the option to set my clock to UTC go?
[09:37] <rickbauls> my skin is similar to the plasma effect in gimp
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> You are the racist... You brought it up..
[09:37] <mneptok> Saquena: St. Henri. and i'm here with a job offer. but the position is not open to people who find it amusing to troll IRC channels.
[09:38] <eXistenZ> Saquena, He commands you. Follow his orders, private.
[09:38] <bl3ssing> hei
[09:38] <Saquena> you want to ban all black peoples ?
[09:38] <bl3ssing> no rasism in here ... ok guys! stop ...
[09:38] <Saquena> dat racist
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Saquena: you will be kicked out if you don't stop trolling
[09:38] <Dravas> How do I move a file to the /usr/ directory
[09:38] <Saquena> what is trolling
[09:38] <bl3ssing> nobody's saying that wants to ban any black people (or even ALL)
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops
[09:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:38] <give> how do i ignore some nick (like saquena for example...)
[09:38] <Saquena> and why all the hate
[09:38] <echeese> How does I fix? Totem could not startup: Could not establish connection to sound server.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> nvm
[09:38] <alienseer23> hello again :|
[09:38] <bbrazil> give: usually /ignore nick
[09:38] <rickbauls> Dravas, sudo cp /usr/files /directory
[09:38] <Saquena> hey
[09:38] <killaz> forget this arguing and help someone here.....
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak:  See Saquena
[09:38] <Dravas> thx
[09:39] <alienseer23> so, something went wrong I think
[09:39] <gnomefreak> i saw
[09:39] <amee2k> erm.... for the cleap places: WE don't care about color, UBUNTU doesn't care about color, JACK doesn't care about color
[09:39] <Saquena> thanks u mr KKK
[09:39] <b1shop> anyone????  UTC time setting?
[09:39] <killaz> I need some help wwith dmix... I read on the net that it will help me
[09:39] <alienseer23> it went into a text mode and froze up
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> THanks
[09:39] <give> bbrazil: thanks
[09:39] <olrrai> exist services.conf on ubuntu?
[09:39] <killaz> but in with package can I find it?
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> BAck to helping people
[09:39] <bl3ssing> nobody's here rasist ... EVERYBODY must know.
[09:39] <bl3ssing> sure Jack_Sparrow
[09:39] <bl3ssing> what was my problem?
[09:39] <bl3ssing> :D
[09:39] <bl3ssing> already forgot it ...
[09:39] <chris86wm> is it possible to run Kwifimanager in gnome?
[09:39] <bl3ssing> hehehe
[09:39] <alienseer23> as a newbie...I assume "X" is everything graphics?
[09:39] <eXistenZ> bl3ssing, Do you mean "racist" ?
[09:39] <olrrai> anyone has services.conf on ubuntu?
[09:40] <mneptok> bl3ssing: symlink the correct time stub from /usr/share/zoneinfo/ to /etc/localtime
[09:40] <bl3ssing> lol eXistenZ
[09:40] <bl3ssing> :)
[09:40] <rickbauls> bl3ssing: i dont think anyone here is a phychaitrist
[09:40] <eXistenZ> My grammar teacher told me that =/
[09:40] <rickbauls> :)
[09:40] <mneptok> b1shop: that was for you
[09:40] <bl3ssing> rickbauls, not even ME! I have another degree diploma. :D
[09:40] <bl3ssing> mneptok, what you mean?
[09:40] <chris86wm> is it possible to run Kwifimanager in gnome?
[09:41] <rickbauls> yea
[09:41] <alienseer23> could whomever posted those codes to me possably repost them ?
[09:41] <mneptok> bl3ssing: sorry, that was meant for b1shop
[09:41] <olrrai> can anyony do it: sudo locate /services.conf
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Chris, I would think so but it will load up a lot of KDE to do it.
[09:41] <olrrai> can anyone do it: sudo locate /services.conf
[09:41] <amee2k> chris86wm: yes. you can even run konqueror on gnome if you install the KDE libs
[09:41] <alienseer23> for stopping x...?
[09:41] <jesspher> can anybody help me with changing the screenresolution
[09:41] <Asc> *new kernel glee*
[09:41] <bl3ssing> lol mneptok
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher:  sure
[09:41] <jesspher> thanks jack
[09:41] <srikat> I'll try jesspher
[09:41] <jesspher> thanks
[09:41] <chris86wm> is there anything similar to kwifi in gnome?
[09:41] <amee2k> chris86wm: when you install it from the repo, apt or symaptics will resolve all the deopendancies
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> srikat:  go ahead, I need food
[09:41] <mneptok> again ... anyone here from Montreal?
[09:41] <rickbauls> chris86wm, ys you can run kwifimanager in gnome
[09:41] <jrib> !offtopic
[09:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:42] <jesspher> jack, what do i do first
[09:42] <Masticore> How do i get the video card's bus identifier ?
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher:  you need to define your problem?
[09:42] <rickbauls> Masticore, lspci
[09:42] <srikat> jesspher, I have installed ubuntu for the 1st time only today and managed to change from 1280x1024 to 1024x768
[09:42] <srikat> is that what you want?
[09:42] <amee2k> Q: i'm on a fresh ubuntu server 6.06 install and mounted an already existing XFS partition. when i do "ls -l" some directory names on it are printed highlighted: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/169/sshotib7.png -- what's special about them?
[09:42] <jesspher> i go to screen resolution settings and only see 640x480
[09:43] <jesspher> thats all
[09:43] <jesspher> that happened after i upgraded to ubuntu 6.06
[09:43] <Masticore> rickbauls: so what am I looking for ?
[09:43] <jesspher> please help me jack
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher:  what vid card?
[09:43] <bl3ssing> how can I install "dpkg -firefox-1.5.0.5.tar.gz"  file?
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > jesspher
[09:43] <jesspher> ati radeon 9000 pro 128mb
[09:43] <mneptok> jesspher: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:43] <eXistenZ> !ati
[09:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:43] <jrib> bl3ssing: you've decided not to upgrade to dapper?
[09:43] <Masticore> rickbauls: this? 0000:03:00.0
[09:44] <eXistenZ> !ati > Jack_Sparrow
[09:44] <b1shop> wtf?  the liveCD uses grub and the alt cd installs lilo?
[09:44] <Niomi> bl3ssing: sudo dpkg -i firefox-1.5.0.5.tar.gz
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> eXistenZ: That was not for me.. but thanks anyhow
[09:44] <b1shop> not to mention that the liveCD boots fine, alt cd requires noapic on my machine.  and the liveCD won;t let me do LVM.  GRRRRRR
[09:44] <void^> amee2k: they're world-writable
[09:44] <killaz> can someone plz help me....
[09:44] <eXistenZ> Jack_Sparrow, Gifts are welcome, aren't they? :)
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[09:44] <sri_> Hi! ia m downloading free bsd.iso then it is downloading in regular download box;If net is disconnected then i have to lose total os can any one tell the links for freebsd in torrent format...?
[09:45] <killaz> what package contains alsa dmix?
[09:45] <amee2k> hm... yeah
[09:45] <amee2k> ty void^ :)
[09:45] <killaz> that is the only thing I need to know..
[09:45] <GStubbs43> Is it possible to play .wma's with Rhythmbox Music Player?
[09:45] <Masticore> what should the video card's bus identifier look like? 0000:03:00.0 ?
[09:45] <pike_> sri_: maybe get download manager etension for firefox..
[09:45] <pike_> sri_: extension
[09:45] <max_> hey all how can i ad a protocol to mozilla firefox that when i press a link xchat will open in that channel
[09:46] <cr3> anyone happen to know of an rss reader which displays incoming messages in the gnome panel?
[09:46] <max_> or in other words how to integrate xchat with mozilla firefox
[09:46] <max_> ?
[09:46] <minerale> Hi, i'm trying to run a vncserver, but i keep getting "fatal error: could not open default font 'fixed'" -- and google does not help either
[09:46] <sri_> pike_, can u tell the links in torrent format..?
[09:46] <jrib> max_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol maybe
[09:46] <rickbauls> Masticore, my bad, i was wrong. i'm not sure exactly.
[09:47] <sri_> pike_, i tried so much but i can't find the torrent formats..
[09:47] <matko> need help.... with logs
[09:47] <rickbauls> Masticore, normally it's PCI:1:0:0 though
[09:47] <Masticore> ok
[09:47] <sri_> Can any one tell the links to down load freebsd in torrent format..?
[09:48] <matko> how open binary log?
[09:48] <killaz> thak you for your help....
[09:48] <rickbauls> sri_ there is a freebsd channel ## FreeBSD
[09:48] <userundefine> sri_, see the long list of freebsd torrents : http://linux.mybookmarkmanager.com/
[09:48] <andyshack> im running a netinstall of dapper. i assume i will still get the option to edit the install partition ?
[09:49] <jordan_> How do i make a .img File in Linux Using a file...(My Floppy Drive aint working)
[09:49] <max_> well i am a nwb and dont know where i installed xchat (using ubuntu 6.06)
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> max_: It should now be in the pull down list if you used the repos
[09:49] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, hi again - no it didn't work!! the fstab screwed up so i restored it cos there was error messages on boot but it let me hit ctrl-d to carry on to boot so i replace fstab back - then i went back to the disks thing and clicked on partition and clicked format and choose access path as mnt and then it let me press enable when it finished and i thought wow. went to "Computer" and it was there!! so wen into the drive and there was a
[09:49] <jonah1980>  folder with a cross in corner called "lost+found" and i couldn't copy any files to the hardisk etc it said i didn't have permission. when i rebooted the system again to see if it helped, bang! it was as if i never pressed to format and the option was there again and i couldn't press enable etc like when i started!!
[09:50] <rickbauls> max_ I'm not too sure, but you might be able to just open a terminal and type xchat and it will start
[09:50] <omong> sri_, you may also check out http://www.linuxtracker.org
[09:50] <rickbauls> sri_ and distro-watch.org
[09:50] <max_> no i mean so i can add a protocol for firefox
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  That is too wierd
[09:50] <jordan_> How Do i make a .img file in linux
[09:51] <max_> i need the location
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> max- YOU COULD SEARCH WITH NAUTILUS
[09:51] <rickbauls> sri_ sorry it's http://distrowatch.com/
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Sorry for the caps.. my bad
[09:52] <sri_> userunderfine he i saw that links there is lot of .iso formats which link i have to select..?
[09:52] <LagDaddy> Hellow everyone
[09:52] <LagDaddy> *Hello
[09:52] <Toys> hello
[09:52] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, is it cos i've not connected it right or something? should it not have it's own ide as master? why is it weird and why me??!! hehe always weird happens to me when i want "smooth" to happen to me, things to go smooth!!
[09:52] <sri_> the link is http://linux.mybookmarkmanager.com/
[09:52] <Tmob> sri_, google
[09:53] <LagDaddy> So I downloaded Freedroid RPG and I'm trying to do the "make" portion of the install, and ubuntu can't find "make" anywhere.
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: You could have it jumpered wrong..
[09:53] <sri_> rickbauls, he i saw the above link but it is giving a lot of .iso files which file i have to download..?
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: depends n the drive, some have jumper for master and one for stand alone
[09:53] <sri_> http://linux.mybookmarkmanager.com/
[09:53] <Tmob> sri_, goto ubuntu.com and download from there.. 6.06 is the latest as webpage says
[09:53] <jordan_> HOW DO I MAKE A .IMG FILE!
[09:53] <sri_> Tmob, thank u
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: HAve you tried gparted?
[09:54] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, it comes up as master on bios, shows it as master on ide slot2 i think, i think dvd drive is on ide 1 and main drive is sata connection
[09:54] <chol> hi fellows!
[09:54] <sri_> Tmob, can u help me to find the correct pacakge to download in the link http://linux.mybookmarkmanager.com/
[09:54] <Toys> if mplayer can be found in the repos, where can i find the repos at?
[09:54] <jordan_> hello?
[09:54] <chol> a problem with remote font servers, xset says wrong font path while it works usung a debian workstation?
[09:54] <LagDaddy> Hi jordan
[09:55] <Tmob> sri_, i think you will have to do your own homework
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: I would look to see what gparted shows.. SOmething is oddly wrong..
[09:55] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, yeah tried gparted and qtparted and also live ultimate boot cd samsung hardrive tool, which formatted it again fine but as fat32 so had to reformat it again
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: I may just be missing it.
[09:55] <casey_> hey guys i just installed ubuntu and im having problems connecting to any ftp server....it keeps giving the error that its unable to open data connection..its connecting but not retreiving a file listening...ive used several different clients
[09:55] <jordan_> How can i make a .img File (If nobody knows just say you dont im frustraded)
[09:55] <simian__> i have two linux box's ubuntu and kubuntu, what is the best way to link them?
[09:55] <sri_> Tmob, ya; but...
[09:56] <rickbauls> anyone here seen the ibm commercials for linux?
[09:56] <Tmob> which?
[09:56] <userundefine> rickbauls, yes
[09:56] <pdr> rg
[09:56] <rickbauls> they're pretty cool
[09:56] <Tmob> on TV?
[09:56] <LagDaddy> Anyone know why ubuntu can't find "make" in the path?
[09:56] <Minty> hello
[09:56] <userundefine> I never saw them on tv.
[09:56] <jordan_> ....
[09:56] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, everything fine in gparted from what i can see
[09:56] <casey_> anyone else have problems with ftp connectivity when they insalled ubuntu?
[09:56] <jordan_> Did anybody install democracyplayer?
[09:56] <rickbauls> LagDaddy do "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:56] <omong> sri_, that should pretty much solve your problem: ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/torrents/6.0-RELEASE/
[09:57] <Minty> have created a shared folder but I cannot see it on my XP machine, any idees
[09:57] <rickbauls> LagDaddy then try again
[09:57] <LagDaddy> rickbauls: okay, I'll give that a shot, thanks
[09:57] <rickbauls> LagDaddy welcoime
[09:57] <userundefine> jordan_, I haven't, but there was a howto on doing it on the forums recently
[09:57] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow: says it's filesystem ext3, size 149.05gb, used 2.46gb and it's there as /dev/hdc1
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: I am out of ideas...   I would like to see if that fat 32 would mount using the diskmounter script
[09:58] <jordan_> Really?
[09:58] <funkja> Hi, I changed my default sound card in the sound prefernce (because there were two listed) and it didn't work, so I switched it back and neither of them work now. They were working fine before.
[09:58] <jordan_> *Looks*
[09:58] <rickbauls> jonah1980, what's going on?
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980:  Back to the top with this.  YOu just want to be able to browse it read/write correct?
[09:58] <rickbauls> funkja did you try restarting?
[09:58] <rickbauls> ha... oh well
[09:59] <userundefine> jordan_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203436&highlight=democracyplayer
[09:59] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow after 4 and half hours i think i'm reaching the stage where i might take the drive out and sell it on ebay, 2nd hardrives, who needs all this hassle!
[09:59] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, yeah sure i just want to use it as a second drive for backups etc
[09:59] <_azrael> Hey, can anyone here help with getting an NFS server setup? Currently, I can mount when on the server, but anywhere else in the network fails.
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: ANd if you go into nautilus it isnt showing on the left side of the screen?
[10:00] <alienseer23> please (re)help me...?
[10:00] <rickbauls> alienseer23, what's up?
[10:00] <voraistos> is the ubuntu website doing bad or do i have to trash my modem ?
[10:00] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, no it's not showing
[10:00] <alienseer23> I was in here a moment ago asking for advice on stopping x...
[10:00] <userundefine> jordan_, what are you trying to make an IMG file of?
[10:00] <jesspher> mneptok: do i chose yes or no to auto config
[10:01] <jordan_> A File
[10:01] <alienseer23> I 1)need the commands agin, sorry
[10:01] <jordan_> Im trying to install win2000 in vmware
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: SO it shows up in some places and not others..
[10:01] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, gonna have to give up, going to watch a movie, but may be back later, thanks for your help. i might just take it out or check the jumpers inside
[10:01] <alienseer23> and 2) have another question
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[10:01] <userundefine> jordan_, ah.  Do you have the disk?
[10:01] <jordan_> and i need to make a .img floppy with a pecific file
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry I could not help more
[10:01] <rickbauls> alienseer23, press ctrl,alt,f1 then log in and do sudo killall gdm
[10:01] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, yeah it shows up in "Computer" and in disks in system menus etc
[10:01] <jordan_> Yeah
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> jonah1980: Lets both take 5 and relax a bit
[10:02] <mezzrricki> I need help with what might be a very simple request
[10:02] <H080J03> ok i am on a ubuntu desktop system, what is the eayest way i can get a lamp server full functional? would it be as easy as apt-get install lamp
[10:02] <omong> voraistos: Seems like a modem trashing case. The web site is on
[10:02] <rickbauls> alienseer23, that completely stops X, then install the driver and do sudo gdm and if it was installed correctly it will start back up
[10:02] <mezzrricki> I need help with updating gnome-games
[10:02] <Intangir> hey guys do you know the default port X server uses for :0?
[10:02] <sri_> omong, ya thank u it gives the torrent files but which package to select......?
[10:02] <alienseer23> ok, when I do that I will lose the desktop environment?
[10:03] <voraistos> omong: the thing is everything else is working fine. google and apt
[10:03] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks for your help, i'm going to go chill with a movie now, promised my grlfriend ages ago, so i might be back in a few hours if you're still around! thanks again and maybe see you later
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cya
[10:03] <alienseer23> (and thank you btw :D )
[10:03] <rickbauls> alienseer23 yes, so save everything first
[10:03] <omong> scri_ depends on your system. Guess you are using a 32bit i386 machine?
[10:03] <rickbauls> alienseer23 before making modifications do a sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.confbackup
[10:03] <jesspher> can anybody help me with changing my screen resolution
[10:03] <alienseer23> basically, iw orks as a terminal, right? (painfully new to this)
[10:04] <rickbauls> just in case it corrupts it or anything...
[10:04] <iratik> Can anyone point me to a tutorial on printing on ubuntu (on a server OS with no GUI, basic support for creating PS files, not actually printing)?
[10:04] <omong> voraistos: I don?t encounter problems accessing the web site. Any other probs?
[10:04] <userundefine> jordan_, then just make an ISO from it.  It's the same thing.  You can rename it from .iso to .img if you *must* have it as that and it should work.
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher: Did you do the reconfig as suggested earlier?
[10:04] <alienseer23> so befoe I go poking about, I save my current config...right
[10:04] <jesspher> yes
[10:04] <jesspher> but after i closed the terminal, nothing happened
[10:04] <Masticore> Have do I find out what keyboard I have like pc104, pc102, pc105 etc ?
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jesspher: Did yu restart x or anything else?
[10:05] <voraistos> omong:nope, however i try again. i had trouble with help.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <jesspher> i didn't restart yet
[10:05] <jesspher> should i
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Masticore: Count your keys
[10:05] <rickbauls> alienseer23, you're just installing nvidia drivers right?
[10:05] <alienseer23> rick, ys
[10:05] <Luxcoast> ciao a tutti
[10:05] <alienseer23> I would like to try the download from the nvidia sight
[10:06] <jordan_> I already made a iso (Because Ubuntuforums Told me to ) But i want to do it unattended So i need to put a File onto a floppy and .... Wait im using vmware it cant read from my floppy drive (My floppy doesnt work anyway)
[10:06] <Masticore> Jack_Sparrow: I have laptop so I dont have the num keys, and I have a 'Fn' key and stuff
[10:06] <alienseer23> I am hoping for some way to use dual monitor and my tv out
[10:06] <rickbauls> alienseer23 try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:06] <rickbauls> ... oh
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Masticore: I would use basic 101 or 102 pc
[10:06] <alienseer23> k
[10:06] <omong> sri_: You may download the following torrent using a i386 machine (normally PCs are) "6.0-RELEASE-i386-all.torrent"
[10:06] <userundefine> jordan_, I've never installed Win2k so I can't help you slipstreaming, sorry
[10:07] <alienseer23> I was using the file in shell from nvidia
[10:07] <jordan_> *Cries*
[10:07] <Intangir> hwo do i forward from solaris to linux's X server ? how do i make sure my X server is listening to other clients?
[10:07] <Masticore> Jack_Sparrow: It's a european keyboard with 
[10:07] <rickbauls> alienseer23 that link is for the easy way out
[10:07] <jordan_> Ive been consumed by this for 3 DAYS
[10:07] <gdb> H080J03: apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server-5.0
[10:07] <Ruffles> don't cry jordan_ everything's likely to get worse
[10:07] <alienseer23> k, lemme read it, THANK YOU
[10:07] <Ruffles> lol
[10:07] <jordan_> ....
[10:07] <jordan_> *Sobs*
[10:07] <sri_> omong, thank u very much ;My system is amd 64 bit i am downloading the 64 bit file
[10:07] <gdb> H080J03: that will install the LAMP software that the server CD installs during installation.
[10:07] <sri_> omong, than ku
[10:08] <rickbauls> Masticore fn key hmm, using a thinkpad?
[10:08] <H080J03> thx
[10:08] <gdb> H080J03: Sure thing!
[10:08] <H080J03> but will it all be configured right?
[10:08] <srikat> yayy...I got xgl set up (but alt+tab doesn't work properly and keyboard numpad is borked :(
[10:08] <rickbauls> alienseer23 no problem
[10:08] <Masticore> rickbauls: Whats a thinkpad?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Masticore: What type of laptop
[10:09] <omong> sri_: cool, using 64 bit. Have fun
[10:09] <Masticore> Jack_Sparrow: Asus A6 series
[10:09] <rickbauls> Masticore ibm thinkpad. i was just idenifying with my fellow ibm thinkpad user
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> I really need to eat..  Back Soon..
[10:09] <sorush20> hi guys I keep getting this message kstartconfig can not be found check your installation?
[10:09] <rickbauls> ... guess not
[10:09] <alienseer23> rick, that installs the same things that the nvidia file from their websight installs?
[10:09] <rickbauls> yes
[10:09] <alienseer23> k
[10:09] <rickbauls> just a lot easier
[10:09] <alienseer23> yeah
[10:09] <alienseer23> ok
[10:09] <alienseer23> gonna go do that
[10:09] <Flannel> H080J03: You can also get more details here: help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:10] <Flannel> H080J03: since, installing it still requires some configuration
[10:10] <andyshack> im on a thinkpad here that im about to chuck dapper on, whats the issue with them ? is it just the floppy setting you need to change on install ?
[10:10] <iratik> How to install PS printer in Ubuntu anyone?
[10:10] <Ruffles> is the build-essentials and kernel-headers the only requirements for source code compiling?
[10:10] <H080J03> thank you
[10:10] <omong> voraistos: You?re lucky. Can keep your modem. Seems to be a problem on the Ubuntu web site.
[10:10] <userundefine> jordan_, if you have the files required from floppy, you could just create a virtual drive and point vmware to it, such as an ISO.  If you have the files on disk (as opposed to using your broken floppy), just use mkisofs -o /path/to/ISO/cd.iso /path/to/files/for/ISO
[10:10] <rickbauls> andyshack whats going on with it?
[10:10] <jordan_> Ill Try That
[10:11] <andyshack> ah nothing yet. perhaps i spoke to soon thinking there were problems.
[10:11] <userundefine> jordan_, that'd be what I'd try
[10:11] <jordan_> (How do you make those messages come up red for me)
[10:11] <LagDaddy> rickbauls, I did what you said, and seemed to get a little further, however, there was an error during the ./configure step just before the "make" step, is there a way I can send you a 7 or 8 line message without dumping it in general chat?
[10:11] <userundefine> jordan_, I put your full name in.  Just type the first few letters of a person's name a hit [TAB] , it autocompletes
[10:12] <rickbauls> find my name on the list nd double click it, i uess
[10:12] <LagDaddy> kk
[10:12] <jordan_> usr
[10:12] <jordan_> ..
[10:12] <jordan_> userundefine,  This it?
[10:12] <userundefine> jordan_, yep
[10:12] <jordan_> Cool.
[10:13] <omong> userundefine: thkx. Learned something.
[10:13] <userundefine> omong, welcome
[10:13] <andyshack> can i burn a cd image onto a dvd at all as i think im out of cd's and i would love to install this evening.
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> andyshack: I would not think so
[10:14] <ManiacKY_> andyshack What OS are you in right now?
[10:14] <gdb> H080J03: pretty much the only conifguration necessary post-installation is setting the root password in MySQL.
[10:14] <Ruffles> is build-essentials and kernel-headers the only requirements for source code compiling of an ircd?
[10:14] <gdb> H080J03: Beyond that is simple database administration in support of your site.
[10:15] <fusionxn1> how do i move a file in the termanal
[10:15] <andyshack> i use xp and ubuntu on various machines.
[10:15] <Ruffles> fusionxn1: mv file file
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> fusionxn1:  cp
[10:15] <fusionxn1> k ty
[10:15] <knapper> What package can I get gtk-config from?
[10:15] <fusionxn1> cp?
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta eat.. brb
[10:15] <Ruffles> mv
[10:15] <userundefine> fusionxn1, cp is copy, mv is move
[10:15] <Ruffles> mv = move
[10:15] <fusionxn1> k ty
[10:15] <ManiacKY_> andyshack I know winISO will convert a CDROM Iso into a DVD
[10:15] <andyshack> what about using the netboot cd to boot into then being able to point that to a mounted iso on another machine instead of it grabbing it all online ? or am i dreaming here.
[10:16] <jordan_> userundefine, Wait for the (mkisofs -o /path/to/ISO/cd.iso /path/to/files/for/ISO) Thing. See i have a the file that needs to be on the floppy On my desktop and i need a .img
[10:16] <fusionxn1> so say my file is 1.gif can i say mv 1.gif etc/1.gif ?
[10:16] <andyshack> winios sounds cool ill look.
[10:16] <jordan_> userundefine, Is There a way to make one from scratch
[10:16] <housetier> so who should I poke when *.ubuntu.com takes forever to load, whereas www.u.c loads instantly?
[10:16] <fusionxn1> Can i move an entire folder?
[10:16] <userundefine> jordan_, what's the file's name?
[10:16] <gdb> fusionxn1: You can move whatever you like.
[10:16] <ManiacKY_> andyshack If you was on a Mac I know if you tell Disc Util to burn a CD ISO and you have a blank DVD in the drive it'll burn to it instead.
[10:17] <andyshack> macs confuse me with their lack of buttons
[10:17] <userundefine> jordan_, nevermind, that doesn't matter.
[10:17] <rickbauls> fusionxn1 if you're moving it to etc you have to use sudo... as in sudo mv file /etc/file
[10:17] <jordan_> /home/jordan/winnt.sif
[10:17] <jordan_> userundefine, /home/jordan/winnt.sif
[10:17] <b1shop> this ubuntu install is starting to piss me off
[10:17] <fusionxn1> i broke it  :@
[10:17] <ubuntu__> there were some updates available today which i installed, but it has messed up kaffeine as i have audio but no video with my tv card, yet have both with normal files... im wondering if theres a way to see what packages i updated?
[10:17] <ManiacKY_> andyshack Maybe, but atleast the OS supported it by default without having to go out and find an app to do it like Windows. ;)
[10:18] <fusionxn1> mv renamed it
[10:18] <LagDaddy> rickbauls, I sent you that error in a PM...
[10:18] <ManiacKY_> I'm sure you could probably dd in linux and get teh same result, just not away how
[10:18] <tchize> Hi
[10:18] <dgm> I can rightclick a file and encrypt it to my own pgp key, but I can't click the resulting file and decrypt it.  Am I missing something?
[10:18] <rickbauls> LagDaddy i never got it...
[10:18] <andyshack> i care little for os perfections. they all honk.
[10:18] <LagDaddy> kk
[10:18] <userundefine> jordan_, just put the file you want to burn in its own folder.  then do " mkisofs -o ~/floppy.iso /home/jordan/*folder*/ " where *folder* is the new folder you put the file in.  It'll make an ISO of the folder, and then just rename it from .iso to .img
[10:19] <fusionxn1> Cant i use the file browser?
[10:19] <tchize> I need help for a breezy to dapper update, if someone can give me a hand, apt seems stuck because of a package named kdelibs4c2a
[10:19] <gdb> fusionxn1: Why wouldn't you be able to?
[10:19] <fusionxn1> it says permission denied
[10:19] <Rambo3> tchize sudo apt-get install -f
[10:19] <sorush20> kde is better than gnome try it..
[10:19] <gdb> fusionxn1: What are you trying to do/
[10:19] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:19] <fusionxn1> move a folder in etc/X11
[10:19] <LinuxVox> gday all
[10:20] <Flannel> tchize: add back in your meta packages, if you've removed them (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc)
[10:20] <ubuntu__> is there anyway to see what files i installed as an update?
[10:20] <LinuxVox> does any1 have suggestion on which packages to add 1st?
[10:20] <gdb> fusionxn1: so move it! :-0
[10:20] <rickbauls> ubuntu__ i think it would be in /var/log somewhere
[10:20] <fusionxn1> it says permission denied
[10:20] <b1shop> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[10:20] <mboso> what's the command to find out what your current X resolution is set to?
[10:21] <ubuntu__> hmm ok
[10:21] <LinuxVox> did an installof dapper on desktop yesterday & has 130 updates.... while trying to do updates kept getting error msgs
[10:21] <vortexvein> is there a verbose mode in terminal so that i can see what's going on when I do stuff like updatedb ?
[10:21] <userundefine> updatedb -v
[10:21] <vortexvein> thank you
[10:21] <ubuntu__> rickbauls: any ideas where?
[10:21] <gdb> fusionxn1: You're  not going to be able to move anything there without bing root.
[10:21] <tchize> Flannel: it still stops with a 'too many errors'
[10:21] <LagDaddy> rickbauls, did you get my IM?
[10:21] <rickbauls> ubuntu__ not really, i'm looking
[10:21] <fusionxn1> well im going to have to use the termanal
[10:21] <fusionxn1> how?1
[10:22] <ubuntu__> me 2 :(
[10:22] <rickbauls> LagDaddy strangely, no
[10:22] <userundefine> sudo mv file file
[10:22] <gdb> fusionxn1: Youdon't have to.  But if you want to, then use the mv command to move the folder into /etc.
[10:22] <fusionxn1> it renamed it
[10:22] <LagDaddy> hmmm... odd.
[10:22] <knapper> What package can I get gtk-config from?
[10:22] <rickbauls> LagDaddy i'm guessing it's gaim that's messing it up. just send it in here i guess
[10:22] <LinuxVox> should I run 'sudo apt-get --configure -a' b4 installing updates?
[10:22] <LagDaddy> Yea, I'll try to pare it down a bit first
[10:22] <Flannel> fusionxn1: you might try cp instead (CoPy), it works differently than move, less regexps
[10:23] <LagDaddy> checking for sdl-config... no
[10:23] <LagDaddy> checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.3... no
[10:23] <lmh41> hi all - I just installed Ubuntu on a AMD 64. Do I have to install 32bit Compat-Libs for VMWare-Server now?=
[10:23] <ubuntu__> rickbauls: i can see which files have been modified today
[10:23] <ubuntu__> id guess one of them?
[10:23] <tchize> Flannel: other suggestions?
[10:23] <rickbauls> LagDaddy this channel move swiftly enough that i doubt anyone would notice
[10:23] <LagDaddy> that's the first part
[10:23] <lmh41> And if yes, where can i find them?
[10:23] <b1shop> grr
[10:23] <tchize> i fear the system won't even boot now :)
[10:23] <b1shop> why are the liveCD and the alt cd's so damn different?
[10:23] <Flannel> !paste
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:23] <Flannel> LagDaddy: use that
[10:23] <fusionxn1> how do i tell it to move a folder from the desktop if im in /
[10:23] <gdb> fusionxn1: http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html - Please read this Unix command line tutorial.
[10:23] <fusionxn1> mv /Desktop/FILE ?
[10:24] <LagDaddy> okay, thanks
[10:24] <carlosz> hi there, can i install ubuntu 6.06 in text mode like before?
[10:24] <Flannel> carlosz: you'll need to download the alternate ISO instead of the desktop ISO
[10:24] <jesspher> have anybody gotten wine to work with any program
[10:24] <gdb> carlosz: Using the alternative cd, yes.
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[10:24] <b1shop> carlos apartnely not.  having same issues
[10:24] <lmh41> carlosz: Server installation
[10:24] <rickbauls> carlosz download the alt disc
[10:24] <carlosz> because the live cd doesn't gets to load...
[10:24] <bl3ssing> is there any midnight commander in ubuntu?
[10:24] <carlosz> ok i'll search for that
[10:24] <jrib> !info mc
[10:24] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[10:24] <Flannel> bl3ssing: there is.
[10:24] <lmh41> carlosz: thats true, use server install disk
[10:24] <gdb> you don't want the server cd if you want a desktop installation.  you want the alternative cd
[10:25] <Flannel> lmh41: why server? alternate works just fine
[10:25] <ompaul> !universe > bl3ssing
[10:25] <ubuntu__> rickbauls: dpkg.log ?
[10:25] <b1shop> live cd boots fine here.  the alt cd requires noapic for the kernel parameters, i can;t get LVM set up properly, and there is no option on the alt cd to use grub
[10:25] <Flannel> carlosz: it's on the same page as the desktop iso download
[10:25] <lmh41> Flannel: OK, didn't know there is one
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> I want to run IE6 under Wine will that be a problem   :)
[10:25] <rickbauls> carlosz http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[10:25] <Flannel> rickbauls: why on earth would he want the server?
[10:25] <mutante> Jack_Sparrow: maybe you would be happier with VmWare
[10:25] <bl3ssing> so ... ompaul , i might find it in ADEPT? why are you guys using repository instead of ADEPT?
[10:25] <Spy_> Hey guys i have linux and windows installed on the same drive. Windows is on the first partition with grub loading in the mbr
[10:25] <lmh41> Flannel: I just installed Ubuntu on a AMD 64. Do I have to install 32bit Compat-Libs for VMWare-Server now?
[10:25] <gdb> carlosz: You do not want to use the link that rickbauls provided unless you do not want a GUI desktop on your installed system.
[10:26] <Spy_> If i reinstall windows will grub be overwritten?
[10:26] <help-the-n00b> Is there a video game room?
[10:26] <rickbauls> Flannel that has the minimal graphice install
[10:26] <tchize> anyone has suggestion how i can get kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2) to be installed?
[10:26] <alienseer23> rickbauks, another question...what is Xgl/Compiz (Nvidia) ?
[10:26] <gdb> Spy_: yes.
[10:26] <Rambo3> Jack_Sparrow -> google winehq / application database / IE
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Spy_: yes but fixable
[10:26] <LagDaddy> rickbauls, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19047
[10:26] <mutante> Spy_: yes, but you can reinstall it
[10:26] <Spy_> how fixable?
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > Spy_
[10:26] <Spy_> using ubuntu boot cd?
[10:26] <alienseer23> or anyone, what is Xgl/Compiz (Nvidia) please?
[10:26] <rickbauls> alienseer23 look it up on google...
[10:26] <alienseer23> ok
[10:26] <ompaul> bl3ssing, repositorys are "lists of files" that are available adept synaptic and other things are just front ends to ask about them install them and register their presence
[10:26] <jrib> !xgl
[10:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:26] <Phazeman> is there any photography fan here that managed to work with some firewire film scanners ? i'm affraid to transfer my main desktop machine because i'm not sure my Minolta film scanner would work...
[10:26] <carlosz> gdb, ok then it is the alternative disk?
[10:27] <Flannel> carlosz: it's the desktop, but instead of a liveCD, the old textmode installer, it also gives more installation options
[10:27] <hussam> how do I change / regenerate locales?
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Phazeman: haave you tried the live cd
[10:27] <Phazeman> Jack_Sparrow: nop, not yet.... i'm with the live cd now but on the lappy
[10:27] <lmh41> hussam: dpkg -i locales
[10:27] <Phazeman> Jack_Sparrow: you think if it's supported it should work with the live cd ?
[10:28] <gdb> carlosz: If you want the GUI desktop on your finished installation, then yes, use the alternative CD.  It uses the old text installer that is no longer available on the desktop CD.  The installed system is otherwise the same assuming you do not do an OEM install.
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[10:28] <lmh41> hussam: and apt-get install localeconf
[10:28] <mboso> what's the command to find out what resolution X is using?
[10:28] <lmh41> hussam: and dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[10:28] <Phazeman> mboso: /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Phazeman: I doubt it will work but sometimes you can get a nice surprise
[10:28] <Phazeman> s/cong/conf
[10:28] <ompaul> rickbauls,  we don't ever tell someone to use google, we give them information, a url or nothing - we have quite a lot of triggers build into the channel bot also, and a really big resource wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com along with installed documentation ;-)
[10:28] <lmh41> hussam: first post was nonsense, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:28] <Phazeman> Jack_Sparrow: :) thought so :) i will try to load it tonight and see what's up
[10:29] <voraistos> i wantto use some kind of apt-get install, but instead of having it dling and installing pre-compiled packages, i wnt it to compile from source. what should i do ?
[10:29] <gdb> carlosz: you can use the server cd, but you will be required to configure your network by hand on the command line and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get the graphical desktop.
[10:29] <hussam> lmh41: ok
[10:29] <tchize> anyone has idea how to force apt to install kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2) ??
[10:29] <rickbauls> ubuntu__ yes, it's dpkg.log
[10:29] <knapper> Can someone help me install this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tilem/
[10:29] <Pikciurna> i have adsl conexant adapter, ubuntu can`t detect it, and i can`t find drivers for it, any advise?
[10:29] <rickbauls> ubuntu__ sorry for the slow responce
[10:29] <carlosz> gdb, ok, thanks for the info, i'll try the alternate one
[10:29] <jesspher> can anybody here help me with running apps with wine?
[10:29] <jesspher> please help
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> #wine
[10:29] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how I can get a working EN_GB or EN_US dictionary in OpenOffice.org under Ubuntu ?
[10:30] <rickbauls> !wine
[10:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:30] <jordan_> Does anybody know any good linux Games?
[10:30] <Samus_Aran> I have the English language-pack and language-support packages installed already, but the dictionary has no entries
[10:30] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: that would depend on what sort of games you like.  there are thousands
[10:31] <lmh41> gdb: do i need 32bit libs if i installed ubuntu on amd64?
[10:31] <voraistos> enemy-territory is a good game and free of charge ;)
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sauerbratten is good free fps game
[10:31] <ompaul> knapper, run this:  apt-cache search Z80  it might be useful
[10:31] <jordan_> Samus_Aran, My Favorites are Rp3's and Adventure games (also platformers) But I like others
[10:31] <ubuntu__> rickbauls: np but they dont really look like they would cause the problem?
[10:31] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: if you like first person 3D, anything by Id Software is available natively for GNU/Linux (Quake 1-4, Doom 1-3, RTCW,  Enemy-Territory, etc.)
[10:31] <rickbauls> jordan_ wolfenstein enemy territory for fps
[10:32] <rickbauls> ubuntu__ what problems are you having?
[10:32] <gdb> lmh41: No reason to install them unless you're running 32bit applications.  There's a HOWTO around somewhere that tells you what you need to do for that support.
[10:32] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: well if you don't mind a lack of graphics, no role playing game quite compares to Ancient Domains Of Mystery (ADOM), in my opinion.
[10:32] <ubuntu__> i have sound but no video in kaffeine with my dvb card yet it was working before
[10:32] <LagDaddy> rickbauls, did you see the error I pasted here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19047
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> THere are also Loki installers for some MS Games  http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6
[10:33] <gdb> b1shop: #fedora is that way ~~>
[10:33] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: numerous emulators work, if you have a decently fast system.  e.g. SNES, N64, PlayStation
[10:33] <ubuntu__> it just shows the screensave
[10:33] <lmh41> gdb: do you have the link by chance to this wonderful howto?
[10:33] <gdzilla_> i just bought an 300gb maxtor hdd, but when i cfdisk it, it only sees 120gb, what can i do about this N
[10:33] <gdzilla_> ?
[10:33] <gdb> lmh41: It's somewhere on help.ubuntu.com that I can't get to currently.
[10:33] <rickbauls> LagDaddy i'm looking ito it
[10:33] <b1shop> gdb: lol.  been using ubuntu on this laptop for awhile.  and CANNOT get it to install properly on this old server i have
[10:33] <knapper> ompaul: found "z80asm - assembler for the Zilog Z80 microprocessor" but dont think thats what I nee
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gdzilla_: Is that a bios limitation?
[10:33] <jordan_> Samus_Aran,  Well i do have snes9x I guess i could find a Rpg for it.
[10:33] <knapper> d
[10:34] <jordan_> Samus_Aran,  theres a n64 emu for linux
[10:34] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: I recommend ZSNES, personally.  more features than SNES9x
[10:34] <rabbit7> how can i find out if the cd which is in the cdrom is an empty one ?
[10:34] <LagDaddy> rickbauls, you rock man!
[10:34] <gdzilla_> hmmm good thinking Jack_Sparrow i'll check my biosstats first...
[10:34] <alienseer23> Q: does compiz relace or enhance system properties (ie, desktope or whatever)
[10:34] <lmh41> gdb: thanks
[10:34] <b1shop> liveCD keeps giving me "Failed to create partition" errors.  and alt cd bombs on the lilo install
[10:34] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: there are several N64 emus, Mupen64 is the best native client, as well, some of them such as UltraHLE work in WINE
[10:34] <alienseer23> <---confused and running on 3 hours sleep
[10:35] <recon0> !idesk
[10:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about idesk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:35] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a question: when i use tar xvzf f.e., can i make it, so all the extracted files get extracted into a specified directory?
[10:35] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: Mupen64 is quite slow, though, so you need a fast CPU (3000+ AMD or so for many of the games, slower for some others)
[10:35] <jordan_> Samus_Aran, Is Mupen64 in apt?
[10:35] <userundefine> alienseer23, compiz replaces metacity
[10:35] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: not sure, haven't checked since switching to Ubuntu
[10:35] <tchize> ok, most basic qustion, how do i fix a broken installation??
[10:35] <Ronz> inc|freaky, yes, tar xvf <file> <directory>
[10:35] <b1shop> gdb: do they have orig zelda in mame?
[10:35] <Ronz> *xvzf
[10:35] <rickbauls> LagDaddy see if this helps http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=258233
[10:35] <alienseer23> what is metacity? I am so freaking dumb to this all...lemme google
[10:35] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: http://mupen64.emulation64.com/
[10:35] <inc|freaky> Ronz: oki, thx :D
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize: How is it broken?
[10:35] <Ronz> np inc|freaky
[10:36] <gdb> b1shop: No idea.
[10:36] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: lots of unsatisifed dependeies
[10:36] <b1shop> that'd be sweet.. and a big time killer
[10:36] <gdb> alienseer23: the window manager, ie; what puts a title bar and buttons at the top of each window.
[10:36] <alienseer23> thats it?
[10:36] <gdb> alienseer23: and allows you to move them around, minimize, maximize, etc
[10:36] <gdb> alienseer23: That's all a window manager does.
[10:36] <alienseer23> ok
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize: MOre info, what were you installing or doing?
[10:37] <alienseer23> thats simple enough
[10:37] <Spec> !info metacity
[10:37] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:2.14.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 10732 kB
[10:37] <gdb> alienseer23: running x without a window manager is an exercise in frustration
[10:37] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: you should give ADOM a try if you can get past lack of graphics.  it uses 16-colour ASCII for its maps.  has a great plot, character development, moral choices, numerous quests and places to explore, skills, attributes, talents and a ton of other configurability.
[10:37] <rickbauls> !metacity
[10:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about metacity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:37] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: was doing a breezy to dapper upgrade
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize: If you say Wine ... I'll scream
[10:37] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: I've been playing ADOM off and on for more than 8 years now and still love it
[10:37] <Ronz> gdb, its more than excersize...its just a pain in the ass
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[10:37] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: and the process end up with tons of unsatisfied dependencies
[10:38] <Samus_Aran> so does anyone know how to get a dictionary working in OO.o 2.x ?
[10:38] <jordan_> Samus_Aran, Is it on apt?
[10:38] <alienseer23> gdb, sure enough, so I am by default using metacity with a clean ubuntu install, and compiz replaces that as a fance eye candy thingie
[10:38] <gdb> Ronz: hehe
[10:38] <tchize> now am not even sure i will be able to boot next time
[10:38] <jordan_> Samus_Aran,  i can still install it but i love apt
[10:38] <gdb> alienseer23: yes, that's right
[10:38] <tchize> but am sure i won't get any kde anymore
[10:38] <alpaca> my installation process gets extremely slow when i get to the partitioning step, and i cant get past it. does anyone know what might be up? also - when i try to run fdisk from a console, it just hangs
[10:38] <alienseer23> <<[10:38] <gdb> alienseer23: :-)
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize: THe easiest for me is for you to use a backup and try again or a fresh install
[10:38] <alienseer23> :D
[10:39] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: the purpose of an upgrade is to not have to reinstall
[10:39] <alienseer23> so metacity is pretty stable, aparently, is compiz as stable? easy to use?
[10:39] <fusionxn1> How do i move a file in termanal if it has a space in it
[10:39] <rickbauls> LagDaddy this guy had the same problem with the same app, http://www.nabble.com/Problems-with-installing-Freedroid-RPG-t1658976.html
[10:39] <tchize> and don't need backup cause important data outside the install partitions
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize:  The purpose of a backup is to have a way out when things go wrong
[10:39] <LagDaddy> allright, I'll take a look, thanks for being my own personal google :-D
[10:39] <woodwizzle> Is there a way to sync up tomboy on my laptop and desktop
[10:39] <woodwizzle> preferably automatically when they are on the same network?
[10:40] <pike_> fusionxn1: file\ name
[10:40] <rickbauls> LagDaddy that's what i'm here for haha
[10:40] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: restoring a backup or reinstalling is taking about same amount of time, except after first one i end up with a breezy
[10:40] <alienseer23> maybee I'll try it out, but I am more concerned with getting my vid card working the way I want...bbl to reboot
[10:40] <alienseer23> THANK YOU :D
[10:40] <iratik> Help! I've installed dapper server months ago and since then have lost the install disk, now I have to install html2ps using apt and its asking me for the disk - How do I getting around waiting 6 hours for the ISO download and reburn!
[10:40] <tchize> more over i hate when technology resist me, i want an upgrade not a reinstall, it's not the windows world
[10:41] <fusionxn1> pike that didnt work
[10:41] <fusionxn1> says cannot stat
[10:41] <greeko> hey there does anyone know how to install ubuntu on an external hard drive
[10:41] <Ronz> iratik, do a search for the .deb
[10:41] <tchize> it's just a broken package at root of everything i need fixed
[10:41] <b1shop> iratik edit apt.conf
[10:41] <bl3ssing> ompaul, how can I get this repositore thing ... is this a application I might open it and use it?
[10:41] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: nope, not in apt, as it is closed source.  its developed by a single person over many, many years.  has clients for win/dos, mac, gnu/linux and beos
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize: Upgrades can be problematic due to the changes that some users make in their systems.  You could never account for all the things users might do.
[10:41] <alpaca> my installation process gets extremely slow when i get to the partitioning step, and i cant get past it. does anyone know what might be up? also - when i try to run fdisk from a console, it just hangs
[10:41] <b1shop> orr.  /etc/apt/sources/list
[10:41] <bl3ssing> ompaul, appreciate your patient.
[10:41] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: am pretty sure i didn't touvhe the all kde app files :)
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> alpaca: How long did you wait and how big is that drive
[10:42] <Gr3gNobl3> Is there anyone that i can talk to in private, just to help get rid of confusion through the chat room, that might be able to help me with my dapper drake installation involving a dual core processor
[10:42] <iratik> So comment out "APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";"?
[10:42] <ompaul> !easysource > bl3ssing
[10:42] <tchize> it's just a problem of too much package depending strangely on an uninstallable package
[10:42] <gdb> Gr3gNobl3: Is the issue that it only sees one cpu?
[10:42] <recon0> What is the "photoshop" program for Linux?
[10:42] <zOap> recon0, the gimp
[10:42] <ompaul> bl3ssing, dont include backports at this time - you don't need them
[10:42] <gdb> recon0: gimp
[10:42] <iratik> gimp
[10:42] <Renan_s2> recon0, GIMP or Krita
[10:42] <alpaca> Jack_Sparrow - its a 100 gb drive, and i have to wait about 25 minutes between each click. eventually, when i tell it to resize my windows partition and make a new partition for linux, thats when it just hangs and doesnt move anywhere.
[10:42] <pike_> fusionxn1: this\ is\ how\ you\ do\ spaces or just use quotes""
[10:42] <ompaul> bl3ssing, read the message from ubotu
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> recon0: I like Digikam
[10:42] <unity> recon0: GIMP
[10:43] <malmen> hello, i have 2 pc with ubuntu, i try ping one to other, and nothing :S what can be that ?
[10:43] <LagDaddy> So rickbauls, they say "You need to install SDL-devel.", I have no idea how to do that...
[10:43] <Renan_s2> Digikam is more for managing pictures
[10:43] <pike_> fusionxn1: also tab completio
[10:43] <Gr3gNobl3> gdb, no, i fixed that :) my problem is that it is not clocking down... its like at a constant 1.83ghz and my laptops getting extremely hot! it doesnt overheat its just that there has to be a way to get it to clock down like in windows, right?
[10:43] <Ronz> alpa, what file system is the hdd?
[10:43] <Samus_Aran> jordan_: http://www.adom.de/ if you want to check it out
[10:43] <tchize> so anybody knows how to manage broken dependencies?
[10:43] <gdb> Gr3gNobl3: Ah, that I can't answer.  Sorry!
[10:43] <PingunZ> hintswen, I compiled the new 2.6.17.7 kernel, I always have to manually reconfigure X and XGL wont work ...
[10:43] <Ronz> Gr3gNobl3, yes there is
[10:43] <alpaca> Ronz - right now its NTFS
[10:43] <Gr3gNobl3> its quite alright, thanks though
[10:43] <PingunZ>  I compiled the new 2.6.17.7 kernel, I always have to manually reconfigure X and XGL wont work ...
[10:43] <fusionxn1> weird now it says no such file
[10:43] <fusionxn1> i copied the file name lol
[10:43] <inc|freaky> Ronz: it says: Directory not found in archive?
[10:44] <Ronz> alpaca, are you running linux on that partition?
[10:44] <Gr3gNobl3> Ronz, does it involve powernowd, and removing it?
[10:44] <Ekumba> hello thereh
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> recon0: There are a good basic set of editing tools in Digikam.. but that is a KDE app.
[10:44] <Ronz> Gr3gNobl3, no. i had the problem with my cpu
[10:44] <unity> is anyone here using mutella? i can't seem to connect to any hosts at all.
[10:44] <alpaca> ronz - no, im on windows now, but i want to reformat
[10:44] <recon0> well, gimp seems to be the general consensus.
[10:44] <greeko>  hey there does anyone know how to install ubuntu on an external hard drive
[10:44] <thanatos_> i cant get sound to work in flash (flashplugin-nonfree)
[10:44] <Ronz> hold on everyone...phone
[10:44] <Gr3gNobl3> any information you could give me would be MUCH appreciated Ronz
[10:44] <Ekumba> does anyone know,how i can access files in a folder under ubuntu with winxp?
[10:45] <greeko> has anyone ever installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive?
[10:45] <greeko> QUESTION MARK
[10:45] <EchoBinary> hi all
[10:45] <thanatos_> ekumba are you try to access from inside windows or ubuntu
[10:45] <ompaul> !repeat > greeko
[10:45] <Gr3gNobl3> greeko, i have seen a few tutorials online how to do that, however... i skipped past them all because they were not for me
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> greeko: SOme externals seem to work, others not.. USB?
[10:45] <Asc> greeko, I imagine so.  Some computers can boot from an external hard drive.
[10:45] <rickbauls> Ekumba http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[10:45] <Ekumba> i want to access from winxp to and ubuntu folder
[10:45] <EchoBinary> is there an easy eay to set up a samba share with a default install of 6.06?
[10:45] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a question: when i use tar xvzf f.e., can i make it, so all the extracted files get extracted into a specified directory? using tar xvzf archive.tar.gz directory/ says: directory/ not found in archive :\
[10:46] <EchoBinary> ^-- addition - and make it password protected
[10:46] <thanatos_> Ekumba what rickbauls said
[10:46] <thanatos_> i cant get sound to work in flash (flashplugin-nonfree)
[10:46] <jrib> !flash > thanatos_
[10:46] <thanatos_> ?
[10:46] <EchoBinary> !samba
[10:46] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:46] <greeko> yes it is an external USB hd
[10:46] <jrib> inc|freaky: -C I believe, check man tar
[10:47] <EchoBinary> ..hmm
[10:47] <Ekumba> oki,thank you
[10:47] <jrib> thanatos_: check your private messages, the restricted wiki has a troubleshooting guide for flash sound
[10:47] <EchoBinary> .. i need to share drives from ubuntu, and password them
[10:47] <inc|freaky> jrib: thx -C is change to directory - do i have to create it before?
[10:47] <greeko> the thing is though, when i choose start or install ubuntu it just goes to loading kernal and freezes there
[10:47] <cotroler>  I installed java in a wrong directory......how do i remove it pls??
[10:47] <jrib> inc|freaky: yes, I think so
[10:47] <LagDaddy> BTW, any of you who aren't alreay, running ubuntu in the recently made free microsoft Virtual PC emulator really rocks.
[10:47] <EchoBinary> is this thing on?
[10:47] <inc|freaky> jrib: oki, thx ;D
[10:48] <EchoBinary> :-D
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> greeko: Have you done the self test on the cd?
[10:48] <iratik> LagDaddy: Elaborate or Link?
[10:48] <jrib> cotroler: how did you install it?
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> LagDaddy: where is it available?
[10:48] <Gr3gNobl3> yes, Virtual PC like LagDaddy said works good, but i dont believe it works with XP Home, unless i am wrong
[10:48] <rickbauls> LagDaddy did you get it to work?
[10:48] <greeko> i have tried the self test but it only gets to the loading kernal and freezes
[10:48] <Gr3gNobl3> its on Microsoft's website
[10:48] <LagDaddy> one sec...
[10:48] <tchize> damn what is this kdelibs4c2a /  kdelibs4c2 curiosity ??
[10:48] <Renan_s2> Gr3gNobl3, I think that Virtual PC runs on XP Home, just that there isn't support
[10:49] <rickbauls> free as in beer, in case anyone really was thinking speech
[10:49] <Gr3gNobl3> ahh, ok thanks Renan_s2
[10:49] <EchoBinary> free speech?
[10:49] <EchoBinary> whats that?
[10:49] <rickbauls> ha
[10:49] <rickbauls> something we all once knew, long long ago
[10:49] <EchoBinary> careful or well all get reported to homeland security
[10:49] <Ekumba> hm,can i copy a file from a linux directory to a windows directory with this program?
[10:50] <rickbauls> then the nsa and hillary clinton crapped all over it
[10:50] <jordan_> samus
[10:50] <greeko> anyone know how to get around the kernel hang while installing linux?
[10:50] <jordan_> samus_Aran, /*
[10:50] <jordan_>  * ADOM session aborted due to an external problem.
[10:50] <jordan_>  * Problem Description: ADOM requires at least a 25x77 screen to run on.
[10:50] <jordan_>  */
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Renan_s2:  It says XP Pro nothing about XP home
[10:52] <Renan_s2> Jack_Sparrow, but I think it shold work
[10:52] <Renan_s2> I remember reading something about this in the Virtual PC newsgroup
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> It should, unless some at MS didnt want it to
[10:52] <greeko> try VMWare
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> someone
[10:52] <greeko> it have found it better than Virtual PC
[10:52] <greeko> i know it works for XP Home
[10:52] <Renan_s2> greeko, agreed
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[10:52] <reversial> anyone here happen to randomly know what PHLAK littleboy uses for the desktop icons, with a fluxbox boot
[10:52] <djbmister> Can anyone answer my question regarding a customised livecd of ubuntu
[10:53] <reversial> ?
[10:53] <Ronz> i <3 reservations
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> djbmister: THey are not as easy to make as you would think
[10:53] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: i think i found how to solve, i issue a dpkg remove --force depends kdelibs4c2  , it fred the way for kdelibs4c2a and seems to have unblocked the rest of update process ;)
[10:53] <GregNoble> damn wireless...
[10:53] <Kiry> Hello :)
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> tchize:  good
[10:54] <Kiry> Quelqu'un parle-t-il franais, ici ?
[10:54] <greeko> anyone know how to get around the kernel hang while installing linux?
[10:54] <tchize> Jack_Sparrow: faster than backup, am just wondering why aptitude did not try it by itself
[10:54] <fusionxn1> I moved all files but 1 it says it cant find
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[10:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:54] <djbmister> jack: yep, i just want to change the default layout of the livecd, do you know where everthing is kept?
[10:54] <Kiry> Merci ubotu
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Nope
[10:55] <GregNoble> french bread pizza rocks, u know? even microwaved... obviously better in the oven but, still damn good
[10:55] <Renan_s2> !br
[10:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:55] <fusionxn1> whats a desktop configuration file 's extention
[10:55] <danya> hi all
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> djbmister: I did see a page on remastering livecd's.  It was for KNoppix but it should be close
[10:55] <greeko> anyone know how to get around the kernel hang while installing linux?
[10:55] <GregNoble> ubuntu 6.06?
[10:55] <danya> I am trying to verify if I have bad sectors on a HD ? but I have a q: Formating the HD will repair the damaged sectors ?
[10:56] <Jack_Sparrow> greeko: Does it run live or are you on the alt cd?
[10:56] <clouseau> setting up ubuntu for the first time. it asks about utc. I'm installing on a brand new dell optiplex gx620 that had windows on it. Should I choose utc or local time?
[10:56] <greeko> it has never run
[10:56] <gdzilla> Jack_Sparrow: i looked on the internet for a bios limit (you know this is about my 300gb hdd problem), and there was a limit for 130gb hdd's but i got an 200gb as well and that one is recognized as 200gb :s
[10:56] <Jack_Sparrow> danya:  Soft errors yes, hard errors no
[10:56] <gdzilla> can this be because the bios does have a limit and that i crossed it?
[10:57] <Ronz> danya, formatting it will erase everything
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> gdzilla: But did you use the mfg tool to install it.?
[10:57] <greeko> it just always freezes
[10:57] <gdzilla> this will answer your question: "what tool ?" :)
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> gdzilla: IF you use the mfg cd to install the drive it changes how the drive looks to the system
[10:57] <ehazlett>  hey all... i am developing an app and would like to know if anyone would care to beta test?  i just need a few at the moment
[10:58] <danya> Ronz:  that is no prob... I was about to reinstall anyway, but the q is how do I differentiate bad sectors in Hardware from bad sectors in Software
[10:58] <greeko> ehazlett: what is the app?
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ehazlett: what app and what language and are you willing to include the source
[10:58] <Ronz> danya, there is a program called spinwrite. you can use that to repair the bad sectors
[10:58] <Kiry> Can someone help me? I have an Apple keyboard and I  don't know how setup it right into GNOME :(
[10:58] <gdzilla> Jack_Sparrow: what does mfg stand for ?
[10:58] <ehazlett> it's like the Ubuntu Customization Kit, except my own...  it's an Ubuntu Live CD creator - written in python/pygtk and is GPL
[10:58] <Ronz> gdzilla, my freakin giant
[10:58] <danya> Ronz: can I find it in the repos ?
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Manufacturer, seagate/maxtor etc
[10:59] <plastictabs> hello
[10:59] <e-gandalf> how stable is edgy right now?
[10:59] <Ronz> danya, no
[10:59] <gdzilla> nice Ronz, nice :)
[10:59] <Ronz> danya, you may have to do a torrent search
[10:59] <ehazlett> http://reconstructor.aperantis.com -- there are some dev screenshots if interested...
[10:59] <gdzilla> Jack_Sparrow: no ;) but i'll try
[10:59] <greeko> anyone know how to get around the kernel hang while installing linux?
[10:59] <plastictabs> I suppose this would be a fresh place to start talking about integrating Ubuntu as an enterprise wide solution?
[10:59] <danya> Ronz: 10x, but I rather not compiling anything now
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gdzilla: ehazlett sure id like to see it try it test it etc
[11:00] <plastictabs> Anyone want to help?
[11:00] <Asc> e-gandalf: there was a person who upgraded, and wanted to downgrade because it was broken.  This is third hand though.
[11:00] <e-gandalf> Asc, ok
[11:00] <wheels3572> How do you limit the # of results in a ping
[11:00] <e-gandalf> I need to update few libs to the edgy, so I started wondering about upgrading whole system
[11:00] <Ronz> danya, you dont have to compile it. its an ISO that you boot to
[11:00] <lmh41> how do i get 32-bit versions of libX11
[11:00] <plastictabs> Anyone here officially affiliated with Ubuntu?
[11:00] <danya> Ronz: is it a live cd like Gparted ?
[11:01] <plastictabs> Anyone want to let me know if there is anyone here affiliated with Ubuntu?
[11:01] <lmh41> gdb:  do you know how i can get 32bit-version of libX11
[11:01] <wooflungpoo> if the wki xubuntu isn't up were is the best place to get it at? cause i downloaded one and evertime it gets to the partition part the screen goes blank and it says Killed scrolling down it
[11:01] <GregNoble> Ronz was wondering if once u had time u could explain to me what you did to fix the cpu problem you said u had earlier.
[11:01] <johnm1019> plastictabs, whats up
[11:01] <Ronz> danya, im not sure if its a live disk. i do know you can boot to it and fix the HDD. we used it back in college
[11:01] <Ronz> yea, let me find it real fast gregg__
[11:02] <Ronz> * GregNoble
[11:02] <LagDadd1> Regarding running ubuntu in MS VirtualPC: go here for vitualPC: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx, then get the .iso image for ubuntu, and mount it with the virtualPC session that you create (OS: other). When on the install for ubuntu, pick the safe graphics mode, then once it's booted, double click the install icon.
[11:02] <plastictabs> I am part of a team that's being contracted to make things work better :)
[11:02] <GregNoble> appreciate it
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ehazlett: LEts test it... How big of a file?
[11:02] <GregNoble> haha ;)
[11:02] <LagDadd1> If you don't do safe graphics mode, it'll barf on your screen
[11:02] <plastictabs> and part of my strategy is to use linux vs. windows
[11:02] <johnm1019> plastictabs, what kinds of thing
[11:02] <Ronz> GregNoble, do you have cpufrequtils installed?
[11:02] <plastictabs> pm
[11:02] <johnm1019> things*
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> plastictabs: Better for whom?>
[11:02] <johnm1019> n
[11:03] <wooflungpoo> if the wki xubuntu isn't up were is the best place to get it at? cause i downloaded one and evertime it gets to the partition part the screen goes blank and it says Killed scrolling down it any ideas what could cause this?
[11:03] <plastictabs> Honestly, the closest I've come to Ubuntu myself is the hype I've been reading all over the place
[11:03] <Ronz> plastictabs, ubuntu ftw
[11:03] <plastictabs> and I want to get to know it a little better from people who use it
[11:03] <plastictabs> ftw?
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> plastictabs: SO download a livecd and check it out
[11:03] <Ronz> for the win
[11:04] <fusionxn1> Does Cedega support prey?
[11:04] <GregNoble> i have not installed that, Ronz, however i have followed a few other things, one second and i can tell them to you
[11:04] <Ronz> ok gregn
[11:04] <ehazlett> Jack_Sparrow: just a sec... gzipping it up...
[11:04] <johnm1019> plastictabs, its certainly something you need to see yourself --> responses from users is not going to help you improve it
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[11:04] <fusionxn1> Ronz too right
[11:04] <Ronz> all of the linux that i ever messed with i had bad experiences...
[11:04] <Pikciurna> anyone here uses adsl conexant adapter?
[11:04] <Ronz> i tried ubuntu, and fell in love with it
[11:04] <plastictabs> john, at this point I'm really interested in the perspective of the linux user
[11:04] <mc__> !anyone
[11:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:05] <plastictabs> and how Ubuntu stacks up against the rest of the distros out there
[11:05] <johnm1019> Pikciurna, T3 ftw? :)
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic > plastictabs
[11:05] <Ronz> i have tried gentoo, fedora, damn small
[11:05] <Ronz> used debian
[11:05] <Ronz> red hat
[11:05] <johnm1019> plastictabs, well you are in the #ubuntu support channel ;) --- im going to say everyone here would say its pretty much the best.  ->>see Jack_Sparrow  comment
[11:05] <Ronz> winblows...
[11:05] <Ronz> and of all of them, ubuntu is the best
[11:05] <fusionxn1> Any tried Prey on CEDEGA?
[11:05] <Pikciurna> i need help with adsl conexant adapter
[11:05] <lmh41> hi, have a prob installing vmware-server on amd64-system:  /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:05] <GregNoble> ok, installed rcconf and disabled powernowd, from there i edited a config file, sysfs.conf or something like that, id check but right now im under windows because i dont want my pc to overheat
[11:05] <lmh41> do i need a 32-bit version of that file? how do i get it?
[11:06] <plastictabs> My IRC client crashed
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> plastictabs: Get Ubuntu
[11:06] <ehazlett> Jack_Sparrow: 52KB gzip'd
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[11:06] <c|int> if anyone can help me with my wireless issue ,with broadcom, that I have been having since I got my laptop, I would really appreciate it..
[11:06] <plastictabs> was that channel #off-topic?
[11:06] <Ronz> GregNoble, i would reccomend editing files as little as possible when messing with heating
[11:06] <malmen> hello
[11:06] <Pikciurna> the only thing left and i delete windows-to setup internet connection on ubuntu
[11:06] <malmen> my pc here not have network
[11:06] <malmen> and i dont kow why :X
[11:07] <ubuntu__> grrrrrrrrr
[11:07] <c|int> I have looked at the wiki's and all, but they don't really deal with my issue, and weird how my device is named..
[11:07] <dingus9> any one know of an easy way to do a nat, maybe with a gui? I don't really want to have to mess with iptables all the time
[11:07] <Ronz> c|int, watcha need?
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ehazlett: Not sure I can DCC it here... care to use my email...
[11:07] <ubuntu__> ubuntu is no better than windows
[11:07] <GregNoble> is there a specific util that u say i should install, for example, the one you asked about
[11:07] <c|int> hey Ronz
[11:07] <GregNoble> cpufreutils
[11:07] <Ronz> sup c|int ? =)
[11:07] <GregNoble> cpufrequtils
[11:07] <c|int> I don't want to be a bother, I'm thinkin of going military, really stressed out
[11:07] <ehazlett> Jack_Sparrow:  sure -- would you be able to send me some feedback via email?
[11:07] <Ronz> yes GregNoble
[11:07] <plastictabs> john what was the channel again?
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu is safer than Windows and dosent have the spyware calling Gates every day
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[11:08] <GregNoble> ok, i will boot to ubuntu, and come back to this channel then
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> pm me
[11:08] <rpedro_> !offtopic > plastictabs
[11:08] <c|int> "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates.. " :)
[11:08] <plastictabs> thanks
[11:08] <c|int> we need wireless support for dang broadcom hardware thats what we neeed .. :(
[11:08] <Ronz> c|int, best of luck to ya with that. i would never go into the military unless i had to....well, if i had to go, i would just go into networking security. =P
[11:08] <dingus9> c|int: um your mom needs windows :) lol
[11:09] <Ronz> c|int, are you using dapper?
[11:09] <AdamWeihsaupt_> please can any one help with xchat
[11:09] <c|int> thats what I told them, I am off of college right now, due to book fee's
[11:09] <c|int> yep
[11:09] <daniele83> hi! I read on the manpage of vmstat that a column named 'w' should exist under the proc section of the output... that column should count the number of swapped out processes. Well, that column doesn't show up on my output :( How is it possible?
[11:09] <c|int> Acers'.. man they nice and all, but grrr..
[11:09] <[cro] smiley> how to use *.diff file to make changes on some particular files?
[11:09] <zool2005> evenin' all,
[11:09] <Ronz> c|int, and are you using ndiswrapper for the broadcom?
[11:09] <Ronz> evenin zool2005
[11:10] <c|int> I"m at my buddies college with him right now. was hoping i could solve the whole wireless issue.. its really depressing me
[11:10] <zool2005> can I stop totem from opening dvds automatically when I pop one in the drive?
[11:10] <c|int> nope
[11:10] <mjr> zool2005, yes, from your media preferences
[11:10] <dingus9> c|int: I duel boot my desktop win2k and debian, and my dell laptop ubuntu/osxdevel
[11:10] <zool2005> mjr, where's that?
[11:10] <c|int> just on the lan , thats it, never actually got a working wireless, but, anto9us managed to get me somewhere, but that was on breezy, and I did a dist-upgrade and lost all settings
[11:10] <c|int> dingus9: , I use VMware, inside linux
[11:11] <Ronz> c|int, try this link. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[11:11] <AdamWeihsaupt_> can any one help me with xchat pls qry me
[11:11] <c|int> I used to do the whole.. boot etc.. with Acronis Disk Director Suite, heck I had like 6 Operating Systems on 1 hard drive alone
[11:11] <c|int> as many people could have alot
[11:11] <dingus9> c|int: what VMware?
[11:11] <c|int> Workstation 5.5
[11:11] <plastictabs> anyone know anyone who works at canonical?
[11:12] <danya> ok - I am still stuck ...  how can I find errors in my HD - it is formated to ext3... but I am not sure if it is defected ... can any1 suggest an Idea ?
[11:12] <RogerBacon> ...
[11:12] <c|int> yeah, I did that whole thing, didn't work
[11:12] <Ronz> hey, does anyone know if i would be a total nerd to get a ubuntu tattoo?
[11:12] <Gr3gNobl3> no, u wouldnt
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> danya: fsck  file system ChecK
[11:12] <dribble> Ronz, i think i'd have to slap you
[11:12] <RogerBacon> yes :)
[11:12] <fishy> How do I suspend via the terminal?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Ronz: Yes, you would.
[11:12] <Gr3gNobl3> not many people know about it, so to others ur not a nerd
[11:12] <c|int> its pretty bad, an IT like myself can't get the dang wireless, and its a hardware issue, and not my fault.. Broadcoms . ole selfish self, I sure wish I could flash off my linux system, with wireless
[11:12] <RogerBacon> but the normal people dsnt know what is ubuntu :)
[11:12] <danya> Jack_Sparrow: I tried - won't do... only for ext2
[11:12] <Gr3gNobl3> ;) at least my friends dont
[11:13] <gnomefreak> guy please take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:13] <c|int> Ronz: , that doesn't work for me
[11:13] <[cro] smiley> how to use *.diff file to make changes on some particular files?
[11:13] <Jenkins> Can anybody tell me why my internet doesnt work when i have both wireless and wired ethernet active?
[11:13] <RogerBacon> hey anyone know how to switch my ext3 part. to reiser fs part. ?
[11:13] <Ronz> what type of laptop do you have?
[11:13] <zool2005> mjr, nevermind, I found it. You learn something new every day!! I'd never used that before! Thanks
[11:13] <dingus9> Jenkins: can you ping any lan stuff?
[11:13] <c|int> Acer Aspire 3610,  3613 WLCi is actual model though
[11:14] <Jenkins> i try to go to google's site with i have both active
[11:14] <Jenkins> and page does not load
[11:14] <Ronz> c|int, heres another link to try   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[11:14] <mjr> RogerBacon, no easy way aside from backup up and reformatting, plus, you don't really want to
[11:14] <Jenkins> soon as i disable the wireless my ethernet card works to google
[11:14] <c|int> Ronz , I would be so appreciative if you could help me, or the team in general, all general of other things I can do.. can't believe I can't do the wireless
[11:14] <dingus9> Jenkins: can you ping your router?
[11:14] <Jenkins> didnt check
[11:14] <Jenkins> brb
[11:14] <Ronz> c|int, i know your pain. try gentoo + wireless card...=/
[11:15] <cotroler> where is the directory of fireworks located by defualt?????
[11:15] <livingdaylight> what does: Partition table entries not in disk order mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19049
[11:15] <RogerBacon> mjr : ok but for exemple ext2 to ext3 is easy ?
[11:15] <mjr> RogerBacon, yes (sudo tune2fs -j /dev/partition)
[11:15] <c|int> I do know though, that anto9us, had me instal, ndiswrapper-utils, and we were able to get the driver etc.. installed, and he had me doing all kinds of commands,
[11:16] <void^> livingdaylight: sda3 is physically before sda2
[11:16] <cotroler> where is the directory of fireworks located by defualt?????
[11:16] <c|int> yeah, gentoo I tried.. resolution and sound didn't work right off, I even was testing with debian 3.1 sarge and testing/unstable etch
[11:16] <Gr3gNobl3> Ronz: should i set my cpu speed manually with cpufreq-set ?
[11:16] <c|int> I did get my resolution to 1280x800, and grahpics. so thats pretty good of myself :)
[11:16] <dingus9> whats the easiest way to do internat connection sharing?
[11:16] <RogerBacon> mjr : tanks
[11:16] <Minty> Some help please when I do this sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start I get  * Not starting NFS kernel daemon: No exports why ??
[11:16] <livingdaylight> void^, is that a problem?
[11:16] <void^> livingdaylight: it shouldn't matter, but windows is sometimes confused by these things
[11:16] <c|int> but debian is just with the testing/unstable... unstable :)
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know offhand what driver is needed for the winmodem on a Dell Inpiron 5100?
[11:16] <cotroler> where is the directory of fireFOX located by defualt?????
[11:16] <c|int> what I'll do is.. wait til.. 4 etch gets released :)
[11:16] <Ronz> Gr3gNobl3, thats one way. i have the little applet on my tool bar, so i can see what its doing and when. i can click and scale it down also
[11:17] <livingdaylight> void^, i'm not running windows
[11:17] <Commander-Crowe> I did  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <void^> livingdaylight: shouldn't be a problem then :)
[11:17] <Commander-Crowe> because i changed monitors
[11:17] <Commander-Crowe> and eveything went ok
[11:17] <Commander-Crowe> except there was no sound
[11:17] <Gr3gNobl3> Ronz: i am using the ones built into ubuntu on the main bar up top
[11:17] <livingdaylight> void^, cool ; )
[11:17] <Commander-Crowe> what did I do>
[11:17] <Commander-Crowe> I need help
[11:17] <c|int> so probably for me, I want to remove that firmware cutter I installed?
[11:17] <c|int> and just go with ndiswrapper?
[11:17] <dingus9> usr/share/firefox
[11:17] <Gr3gNobl3> but they dont allow me to scale it down
[11:17] <Ronz> Gr3gNobl3, thats the one i use. haven't had any problems with it yet. =)
[11:17] <livingdaylight> void^, so i can install another linux distro on there? sda3
[11:18] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:18] <Shak-> how do I turn on softsubs inside a mkv container in mplayer, I only see an option to load an external subfile
[11:18] <Gr3gNobl3> how did you make your's able to clock it down from clicking on them
[11:18] <Ronz> c|int, yea. ndiswrapper is made for the use w/ wireless cards
[11:18] <c|int> also.. my wireless device.. is named.. eth0, I think thats a problem, and my ethernet lan , named eth1' on breezy it was.. if I can remember, the wlan0
[11:18] <Ronz> just left click, and you can change it
[11:18] <c|int> well yea.. you think you can help me ronz.. I"m soo appreciative man, if you can help me get the interface working
[11:18] <void^> livingdaylight: yes. but if you don't mind fixing your fstab, fdisk can put them in order easily, iirc it's in the extended options (x), look at the help :] 
[11:18] <Commander-Crowe> :(
[11:19] <Ignite_> wiki down?
[11:19] <Commander-Crowe> no one
[11:19] <c|int> then I can show off vmware as well :)
[11:19] <Ignite_> is the wiki mirrored anyware?
[11:19] <c|int> wireless :)
[11:19] <Ignite_> anywhere*
[11:19] <livingdaylight> void^, sr, that is beyond my capacity :(
[11:19] <Ronz> c|int, are you sure your wireless is eth0?
[11:19] <c|int> yep
[11:19] <gatekeeper> Ignite_: yes
[11:19] <c|int> even did , iwconfig
[11:19] <Ronz> did you just update from breezy?
[11:19] <Se7h> eth0 ? how can that be
[11:20] <Ronz> thats what im saying...
[11:20] <c|int> good question.. its called, ,my luck with linux,
[11:20] <Se7h> eth stands for ethernet
[11:20] <Ronz> haha
[11:20] <c|int> hee, why don' I just have mark take a look at my system :P
[11:20] <Ronz> c|int, normally eth0 is your ethernet, then eth1 is your wireless
[11:20] <c|int> :)
[11:20] <Ronz> so if you do iwconfig
[11:20] <c|int> I can do it with ifrename right, I just don't know how
[11:20] <Ronz> you can see that its wireless?
[11:20] <Se7h> c|int open an ssh for us
[11:20] <Se7h> lol
[11:20] <c|int> yep
[11:21] <Commander-Crowe> no one?
[11:21] <Ronz> ok, run this command
[11:21] <c|int> lol
[11:21] <c|int> I'll do someting for you all
[11:21] <Ronz> sudo iwlist eth0 scanning
[11:21] <clouseau> so much for my big plan to install ubuntu and RAID 1 on a dell optiplex GX620 with two drives
[11:21] <c|int> if you can help m e:)
[11:21] <Ronz> and see if you come up w/ any wireless
[11:21] <c|int> ya name it :)
[11:21] <c|int> thanks , Se7 as well
[11:21] <clouseau> when ubuntu reboots, it just says error 15, file not found
[11:21] <c|int> k 1 sec
[11:21] <Ronz> k
[11:21] <Se7h> Commander-Crowe check the mixer
[11:21] <c|int> want me remove that firmware cutter thing I installed?
[11:21] <Commander-Crowe> Se7h: I did
[11:21] <Ronz> no, just leave it for nwo
[11:21] <Ronz> *now
[11:21] <c|int> k
[11:22] <Dabian> cutter?
[11:22] <c|int> thanks both you guys
[11:22] <Ronz> and hurry...cause i have bout 10 more min of work. =)
[11:22] <Se7h> Commander-Crowe switches?
[11:22] <clouseau> I assume it's a problem with two drives in raid 1 on the same sata controller
[11:22] <c|int> I"m also working , with development, for Windows API's etc. because of Cedega, and CodeWeavers licensing, for commercial businesses
[11:22] <c|int> so , and ubuntu has my full fledge support and debian ,and users, I just am IT< ya know :)
[11:22] <Ronz> clouseau, are they the same hdd?
[11:22] <Gr3gNobl3> Ronz: http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5983/screenshotve7.png up top, one for each core, are those what you are using Ronz?
[11:22] <c|int> I have to offer alot to the users, and people :)
[11:22] <Ronz> IT all the way   =)
[11:22] <Dabian> c|int : Many businesses are commercial, I guess.
[11:22] <clouseau> Ronz: they are separate physical drives
[11:23] <c|int> I do what I do
[11:23] <Commander-Crowe> Se7h: switches? I mad sure the speakers are on
[11:23] <Se7h> c|int money will do just fine :>
[11:23] <c|int> but respect every aspect of open source and commercial softwaer both alike
[11:23] <c|int> <-- reverse engineer
[11:23] <Se7h> Commander-Crowe switches on the mixer
[11:23] <c|int> <--- can't fix  a dam wireless card :P
[11:23] <Commander-Crowe> Se7h: why I tried that
[11:23] <c|int> <-- would replace it, but don't have the money and to have compatible.. k going do that :P
[11:23] <Zyfo> I want to be able to write on a media hd of mine but it tells me I don't have the permissions. Afaik I've already logged in as the owner, what must I do for ubuntu to understand I'm the owner?
[11:23] <longwave> c|int: did you get anywhere with installing the firmware before?
[11:23] <Ronz> dude, Gr3gNobl3 ...where did you get that background?
[11:23] <chol> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[11:24] <Ronz> i <3 it
[11:24] <Gr3gNobl3> u want ir Ronz ?
[11:24] <Gr3gNobl3> ahaha me too
[11:24] <gatekeeper> chol: yes
[11:24] <chol> gatekeeper, ok
[11:24] <Ronz> uhh...yea Gr3gNobl3 =)
[11:24] <jbroome> !away > hard_i
[11:24] <Gr3gNobl3> ill send u a copy once i get this cpu thing fixed :-D
[11:24] <c|int> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[11:24] <Ronz> hehe, ok
[11:24] <c|int> nope
[11:24] <chol> gatekeeper, i'm looking for the flags for a debug build
[11:25] <c|int> heya longwave
[11:25] <Ronz> and Gr3gNobl3 you should just be able to click it and scale it down
[11:25] <Gr3gNobl3> bahh mine doesnt let me do that!
[11:25] <Ronz> c|int, try it with eth1
[11:25] <Ronz> sudo iwlist eth1 scanning
[11:25] <c|int> man, with you Ronz, Se7, and longwave, I bet I can get it done :P
[11:25] <[HUN] Lag-Zik> hi all
[11:25] <c|int> but thats, my lan, ethernet
[11:25] <Ronz> just try it for kicks
[11:25] <Dabian> !courier
[11:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about courier - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:26] <c|int> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning
[11:26] <c|int> I bet we have to rename it, to wlan0
[11:26] <gatekeeper> chol: not sure what to suggest
[11:26] <longwave> c|int: no, my bcm43xx wireless is on eth1
[11:26] <Se7h> c|int what does ur ifconfig list ?
[11:26] <Ronz> are the mac addresses the same?
[11:26] <longwave> c|int: also what does iwconfig list?
[11:26] <c|int> yeah, I had it on there before, but I don't know what happened, eh
[11:26] <chol> c|int, have you done ifconfig eth1 up before iwlist eth1 scan?
[11:26] <Gr3gNobl3> come to think of it Ronz, i cannot click on anything that i put on that bar...
[11:27] <longwave> also, you can do just "iwlist scan" to scan all interfaces
[11:27] <gatekeeper> chol: haven't really got round to build much in the way of source code in linux
[11:27] <c|int> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[11:27] <c|int>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[11:27] <c|int>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[11:27] <c|int>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[11:27] <c|int>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[11:27] <c|int>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[11:27] <Ignite_> does anyone know _why_ the wiki is down?
[11:27] <longwave> !paste
[11:27] <c|int> sorry
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:27] <c|int> thats iwconfig
[11:27] <c|int> ifconfig, just shows.. the lo and eth1 ,
[11:27] <Dabian> Ignite_ : I take it you don't need some fresh answer.
[11:27] <chol> gatekeeper, ok, i'll ask around, the wiki seems to be semi up atleast
[11:27] <maclink> how to install java virtual machine
[11:27] <Ronz> c|int, try ifconfig eth0 on
[11:28] <Ronz> or iwconfig eth0 on
[11:28] <longwave> "ifconfig eth0 up" even ;)
[11:28] <Ronz> i forget which it is
[11:28] <Lt-Elmo> anyone know when the new firefox/thunderbird will hit the repos
[11:28] <Se7h> on ? or up ?
[11:28] <Dabian> !tell maclink about jvm
[11:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about jvm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:28] <Ignite_> Dabian, there is a wiki article a guy in #kubuntu needs
[11:28] <c|int> well, I don't think there is any drivers that it is using.. eh
[11:28] <Masticore> What am I suppose to write here, I have tried everythin. http://masticore.neonnero.com/omfg.jpg
[11:28] <Gr3gNobl3> GAHHH now theres like 10 of those cpu frequency bars stuck on there
[11:28] <Dabian> Ignite_ : You tried google's cache already?
[11:28] <gatekeeper> chol: may be some unofficial sites might have what you are looking for if you google
[11:28] <longwave> if it says "broadcom" it must have got that from the driver...
[11:28] <Ignite_> yeah
[11:28] <c|int> unknown host and stuff
[11:28] <maclink> thanks ubotu
[11:28] <Se7h> Lt-Elmo #ubuntu-motu
[11:28] <Ignite_> Dabian, it seems to not load because its after the images
[11:28] <Dabian> Ignite_ : Speldid.
[11:29] <c|int> unrecognised wireless request "on"
[11:29] <Ronz> and Gr3gNobl3 , have you rebooted sinse you installed the stuff for the processor?
[11:29] <Dabian> Ignite_ : YOu know what I meant.
[11:29] <mnvl> hey mp3s skip and repeat (almost like a scratched cd) with both totem and rhythmbox, ever since i upgraded to dapper
[11:29] <Gr3gNobl3> lol be right back
[11:29] <Se7h> c|int try 'up'
[11:29] <mnvl> soemone help me
[11:29] <Ronz> and i must depart
[11:29] <Ronz> later!
[11:29] <Gr3gNobl3> wait
[11:29] <Gr3gNobl3> ronz
[11:29] <Ronz> kk
[11:29] <Gr3gNobl3> email for the pic
[11:29] <Gr3gNobl3> ill send u it
[11:29] <c|int> nope
[11:29] <NeoNmaN> i need help to connect my Nokia phone to my Ubuntu desktop
[11:29] <Ignite_> Dabian, what i mean is, the page doesn't load because konqueror dloads the images before showing the page
[11:29] <Ronz> i PM'ed it
[11:29] <Dabian> Ignite_ : In case you didn't, I meant "<irony>splendid!</irony>".
[11:29] <longwave> c|int: did you try "ifconfig eth0 up" (not on)
[11:29] <Ignite_> ah
[11:29] <roostishaw> anyone, im getting wpa support, but keep getting this error, "E: Build-dependencies for wpasupplicant could not be satisfied." anyone know what im doing wrong?
[11:30] <c|int> this is sad, I sure wish you guys could be right here with me.. anto9us was able to get it on breezy but eh
[11:30] <Ronz> and thanks Gr3gNobl3 ...that shall be my background. =)
[11:30] <shiv> Hi, My system is really working great now. Is there a way to make image of it to install to other system of same specs or even make a dvd for later restore?
[11:30] <Zyfo> I want to be able to write on a media hd of mine but it tells me I don't have the permissions. Afaik I've already logged in as the owner, what must I do for ubuntu to understand I'm the owner?
[11:30] <Masticore> What am I suppose to write here, I have tried everything. http://masticore.neonnero.com/omfg.jpg Hightlight me
[11:30] <c|int> sudo ifconfig eth0 up right?
[11:30] <longwave> yes
[11:30] <chol> gatekeeper, i'm on it, just that it was real easy to find in the wiki and haven't stumbled upon it anywhere other
[11:30] <Dabian> Ignite_ : Try netscape or firefox (or any gecko-based browser, I guess).
[11:30] <c|int> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[11:30] <longwave> hrm
[11:30] <roostishaw> Zyfo, and you did sudo?
[11:30] <roostishaw> Zyfo, and your on root?
[11:30] <c|int> yep, hrm is right
[11:31] <longwave> try "sudo iwlist scan" again
[11:31] <roostishaw> anyone, im getting wpa support, but keep getting this error, "E: Build-dependencies for wpasupplicant could not be satisfied." anyone know what im doing wrong?
[11:31] <c|int> we tryin hack da biatch ain't we's :D
[11:31] <Zyfo> roostishaw: nope, this is in the GUI when I right click on the hd
[11:31] <longwave> "ifconfig up" sometimes gives errors but kicks the interface into action anyway
[11:31] <Ignite_> Dabian, fine.. it pains me to rely on firefox though <_<
[11:31] <spazzPP2> what is the best way to play dvd on ubuntu?
[11:31] <_bt> Masticore, "17"
[11:31] <_bt> Masticore, no full stop
[11:31] <roostishaw> Zyfo, what is in the gui? an error pops up?
[11:31] <c|int> its telling me, the interfaces doesn't support scanning
[11:31] <Ignite_> spazzPP2, install libdvdcss2 then you can use totem
[11:31] <aninhumer> I'm having a small issue with my sound card (and I've already seen the ubotu info)
[11:31] <Dabian> I wonder how I can make money from Ubuntu - is there buisness channel or something?
[11:31] <Dabian> !money
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about money - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:31] <longwave> ok
[11:32] <c|int> also hey new users.. easyubuntu, is really nice..
[11:32] <c|int> and simple to set up
[11:32] <longwave> c|int: try "lsmod" and see if bcm43xx is in the list
[11:32] <gatekeeper> shiv: this might prove helpfull to some extent: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[11:32] <Dabian> c|int : Hence the name?
[11:32] <Asc> masticore, what command did you use to run that?  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' has never done anything similar to me.
[11:32] <c|int> and its not like automatix, which I didn't even try, because I felt the negativeity :)
[11:32] <roostishaw> anyone, im getting wpa support, but keep getting this error, "E: Build-dependencies for wpasupplicant could not be satisfied." anyone know what im doing wrong?
[11:32] <Masticore> _bt: When I write "17" I get the same question again
[11:32] <Zyfo> roostishaw: the option boxes are grey and on the bottom it just says "You are not the owner, so you can't change these permissions" no place where you can type your password as I can see.
[11:32] <Ignite_> Dabian, are you talking about making money from other peoples work here?
[11:32] <Masticore> Asc: Yes that command
[11:32] <Dabian> Ignite_ : Yeah
[11:32] <Dabian> Ignite_ : And my own.
[11:32] <c|int> yes it is
[11:32] <Ignite_> Dabian, your own?
[11:32] <roostishaw> Zyfo, you mean under the permissions tab?
[11:32] <_bt> masticore, do this, 17 18 19
[11:32] <gatekeeper> chol: might be easier to put it off untill the wiki is back up and running
[11:32] <IcemanV9> my goodness! quicktime kept installing just like an energizer bunny - kept going, going, going JEEZ!
[11:32] <Zyfo> roostishaw: yes
[11:33] <Dabian> Ignite_ : Someones gotta take their money.
[11:33] <Asc> masticore: that's odd.  It gives me a completely different interface.
[11:33] <help-the-n00b> Is there a command to edit text files IN the terminal? Not like "gedit file"?
[11:33] <Ignite_> Dabian, i think your missing the point of free software
[11:33] <roostishaw> Zyfo, can you change the owner in the drop-down? or is it grey?
[11:33] <supernix> HI anyone here know much about WIFI ?
[11:33] <_bt> help-the-n00b, nano
[11:33] <help-the-n00b> Nano?
[11:33] <c|int> but you see, I know when I did the live cd, it told me.. the bcm43xx firmware had an error, and this instal I did, I did custom layouts,  with  / root 15 gb,   /home 44  and /swap 1 gb,
[11:33] <Asc> help: I prefer 'nano'
[11:33] <c|int> and used alternative cd,
[11:33] <Dabian> Ignite_ : I don't plan to simply order free CD's and sell them despite the note on the cover, if thats what you mean.
[11:33] <_bt> help-the-n00b, no, nano
[11:33] <Masticore> _bt: same shit
[11:33] <Asc> ('nano [filename] 
[11:33] <help-the-n00b> How do I use it?
[11:33] <help-the-n00b> nao file
[11:33] <help-the-n00b> ?
[11:33] <aninhumer> Errm, I'm only getting the right channel on my sound card
[11:33] <roostishaw> anyone, im getting wpa support, but keep getting this error, "E: Build-dependencies for wpasupplicant could not be satisfied." anyone know what im doing wrong?
[11:34] <Asc> for example 'nano stuff.txt'
[11:34] <c|int> I"m willing to do whatever with ndiswrapper , if that will help
[11:34] <chol> gatekeeper, nah, can't give up :)
[11:34] <RogerBacon> supernix : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifi
[11:34] <help-the-n00b> Thanks.
[11:34] <DansFloyd> hello everyone
[11:34] <chol> gatekeeper, j have this funky xset fint problem that only ubuntu has...
[11:34] <Zyfo> roostishaw: there's nothing about owner in the drop-down menu.
[11:34] <[HUN] Lag-Zik> .
[11:34] <c|int> only you experts , can help a guy like me :)
[11:34] <chol> gatekeeper, font*
[11:34] <Ignite_> Dabian, i don't really care how someone makes money off of other peoples hard work, i just don't think it should be done, unless you care giving something valuable of your own work which _relys_ on the work of others you are using
[11:34] <Dabian> roostishaw : There has to be a log file of some kind, that is more elaborate.
[11:34] <aninhumer> roostishaw, was that all it said?
[11:34] <wodger> roostishaw that means it needs a deoendencie
[11:34] <gatekeeper> chol: I get like that :-)
[11:34] <c|int> I already been to the wiki's and they can't help my problem :)
[11:35] <pike_> Dabian: most models for profit in linux involve some sort of paid support
[11:35] <roostishaw> aninhumer, yes. that was the output
[11:35] <longwave> c|int: run "dmesg" and see if there are any errors from bcm43xx
[11:35] <_bt> Masticore, im unsure then!
[11:35] <Dabian> Ignite_ : That was the general idea.
[11:35] <c|int> k
[11:35] <Masticore> _bt: aiiight
[11:35] <Ignite_> Dabian, and even then you should give back to the community who gives that work away
[11:35] <Dabian> Ignite_ : I am a programmer.
[11:35] <aninhumer> roostishaw, I'm assuming you already have build-essential?
[11:35] <Ignite_> Dabian, cool, what language(s)?
[11:35] <c|int> yep sir, sure did,  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[11:35] <Masticore> _bt: so what should I do? Lay down and die ?
[11:35] <_bt> ctrl + c   and try again?
[11:36] <roostishaw> aninhumer, yes.
[11:36] <Dabian> Ignite_ : Mostly Java, but .. I'm not really mono-language.
[11:36] <aninhumer> roostishaw, as I think someone said, is there a log file?
[11:36] <jesspher> does anybody here know how to configure wine the right way
[11:36] <jesspher> please help
[11:36] <Dabian> Ignite_ : So far I only did commercial proprietary coding though ... I'd like to make a living from doing free software.
[11:36] <roostishaw> aninhumer, um... where might i look for this?
[11:36] <jesspher> does anybody here know how to configure wine the right way
[11:36] <ardchoille> nalioth: You about?
[11:36] <Ignite_> Dabian, there are plenty of ways of doing that :)
[11:36] <longwave> c|int: did you get the firmware files copied to /lib/firmware?
[11:36] <jesspher> does anybody here know how to configure wine the right way
[11:37] <aninhumer> jesspher, try winetools. I can't remember the url, just google it.
[11:37] <Dabian> Ignite_ : Yeah, I would like to do free software from a living instead.
[11:37] <c|int> how come they went to /home/clint
[11:37] <longwave> ok that's fine we can just copy them there
[11:37] <wodger> Dabian well you can sell the binaries say and books about software X
[11:37] <longwave> do "sudo cp /home/clint/bcm43xx_microcode* /lib/firmware"
[11:37] <c|int> and plus, when I did that whole.. extractino thing.. it errored out on me anyways, rem
[11:37] <Ignite_> Dabian, http://www.fsf.org/jobs
[11:37] <c|int> 1 sec
[11:37] <longwave> yeah the error can be ignored i think, as long as you have three files numbered 2 4 and 5
[11:37] <wodger> most busness models are support, often server
[11:37] <aninhumer> roostishaw, what exactly did you do to get that error?
[11:38] <wodger> brb tea...
[11:38] <c|int> done
[11:38] <Masticore> does this config look healthy? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19017
[11:38] <nalioth> ardchoille: in many channels
[11:38] <c|int> oh coo.. it put some in there
[11:38] <longwave> now try "sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx" then "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"
[11:38] <roostishaw> aninhumer, i ran   sudo apt-get build-dep wpasupplicant
[11:38] <ardchoille> nalioth: Have you got a minute for a pm? or are you busy atm?
[11:38] <c|int> hey lon, I will never forget ths, if thigns go well, because I too will help users, and use TEchSmith and record how to set it up :)
[11:38] <Dabian> Ignite_ : I wonder if the european office has a simular page.
[11:39] <c|int> we can just tell them, get videof rom clint's server :P
[11:39] <longwave> this will reload the driver and hopefully it will find the firmware now
[11:39] <longwave> hehehe
[11:39] <c|int> 1 sec
[11:39] <nalioth> ardchoille: always got a minute
[11:39] <Ignite_> Dabian, where abouts in europe are you?
[11:40] <c|int> done
[11:40] <longwave> now try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" again
[11:40] <c|int> now how would I got about checking that?
[11:40] <c|int> hey, can you copy all of this chat, and send to me,
[11:40] <longwave> fingers crossed, it will not give that error again
[11:40] <c|int> well here, let me do it
[11:40] <jesspher> aninhumer: can you help me with installing winetools
[11:40] <DansFloyd> for some reason my Wifi meter isnt working correctly. I can connect to wireless connections. But no matter how far I am from the access point, It will allways display 100% wifi connection... anyone know a way to fix that?
[11:41] <aninhumer> roostishaw, was there a problem installing it from the normal repository?
[11:41] <roostishaw> aninhumer, havn't tried. the guide for wpa, in the forums, says to do it
[11:41] <Dabian> DansFloyd : Check if the package is suggesting or recommending any other packages.
[11:42] <c|int> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[11:42] <longwave> DansFloyd: maybe your wireless driver does not report signal quality and always says 100%.. though it could also be a software bug
[11:42] <c|int> something must be seriously not working right longwave.
[11:42] <Zyfo> roostishaw: could I perhaps change it via terminal? It is called media\hba1. What would the command be for that?
[11:42] <aninhumer> roostishaw, you might want to try the normal install first, (infact it looks like it's a standard package)
[11:42] <longwave> look in dmesg again, the old errors will still be there but see if there is anything new at the bottom
[11:43] <aninhumer> jesspher, I think it's in the ubuntu repos, use synaptic
[11:43] <roostishaw> Zyfo, sudo chmod -R media/hdb1 755
[11:43] <c|int> yea a few things hee
[11:43] <roostishaw> Zyfo, tell me how it goes
[11:43] <c|int> let me do that paste bin
[11:43] <aninhumer> jesspher, if it isn't you can probably get a .deb from the debian repos
[11:43] <longwave> ok
[11:43] <roostishaw> aninhumer, sorry, but what do you mean by "normal"?
[11:44] <jesspher> what do i type
[11:44] <DansFloyd> Dabian, what do you mean?
[11:44] <Zyfo> roostishaw: chmod: invalid mode: `media/hdb1'
[11:44] <roostishaw> Zyfo, sudo chmod -R /media/hdb1 755
[11:44] <aninhumer> roostishaw, either "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant" or using synaptic
[11:45] <technel> Is there any way I can find the time that my computer was shut off (from Ubuntu)?
[11:45] <roostishaw> aninhumer, ok, ill try it, thanks!
[11:45] <Zyfo> roostishaw: invalid mode again.
[11:45] <Minty> how do I set a samba user name and password so my xp machine can access a shared folder ?
[11:45] <roostishaw> Zyfo, man chmod
[11:45] <c|int> check this
[11:45] <c|int> -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19050
[11:45] <roostishaw> Zyfo, good luck man, sorry i douldn't help  :(
[11:45] <Zyfo> roostishaw: thanks anyway, :<
[11:45] <aninhumer> I have a problem with my sound card driver
[11:46] <krim> I installed Ubuntu 6.06 and when I get to the login screen everything freezes. I could start it in safe mode but then I don't have access to internet so I'm using WinXP right now. Any ideas on what to do?
[11:46] <krim> Oh, I can move the mouse for about two seconds before everything freezes.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> If a person came across a number of old, low-resource computers, could they be made to collaborate and effectively get a higher-grade machine?  Where would be some docs on doing this?
[11:47] <chol> c|int, do you have that file in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`?
[11:47] <longwave> c|int: do you have the bcm43xx_pcm5.fw file in your home folder? we didn't copy that before, because i dont have that on my system
[11:47] <longwave> oh wait, yes i do, i didn't see it before
[11:47] <c|int> oh my kernel?
[11:47] <wodger> wild stab some bit of hardware ubuntu doesn't like
[11:47] <longwave> do "sudo cp /home/clint/bcm43xx* /lib/firmware"
[11:47] <Zyfo> I want to be able to write on a media hd of mine but it tells me I don't have the permissions. Afaik I've already logged in as the owner, what must I do for ubuntu to understand I'm the owner?
[11:47] <eggzeck> krim, no error messages?
[11:47] <longwave> i missed out some of the files in the last copy command
[11:47] <seek> Hello
[11:47] <c|int> appreciate help too chol. this is what i got in... there.. 2.6.15-23-386  2.6.15-26-386  bcm43xx_microcode2.fw  bcm43xx_microcode4.fw  bcm43xx_microcode5.fw  exit
[11:47] <krim> eggzeck, no, it just freezes and I can't do anything except turn the computer off and on.
[11:48] <DrBashir2> what is the standard internet radio station in mplayer?
[11:48] <c|int> k 1 sec
[11:48] <dswillia74437> hey all trying to do an "sudo apt-get install ssh" and it keeps asking for the cd, how do i tell it to go online?
[11:48] <DrBashir2> I'm not at my ubuntu box, but I like the station
[11:48] <chol> c|int, put the .fw files into 2.6.15-26-386
[11:48] <rgg> Hello everyone,can someone teach me how to "install" full throttle into ScummVM?
[11:48] <longwave> chol: the .fw files can just be in /lib/firmware, they are not version specific
[11:48] <c|int> ah, yeah I seen something on that
[11:48] <longwave> chol: if you do that then upgrade the kernel, the firmware breaks
[11:49] <chol> longwave, oh yes they are, not the same firmware for older kernels
[11:49] <gatekeeper> dswillia74437: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <ardchoille> dswillia74437: I can help you with that if you can paste your sources.list to pastebin
[11:49] <longwave> for 2.6.15 on dapper it is good for now though
[11:49] <CarlFK> dswillia74437: I am guessing you want openssh-server, which is on the CD
[11:49] <aninhumer> Can anyone help me, I only get a high pitched whine or nothing on my left sound channel.
[11:49] <longwave> it took me a while to figure it out after a kernel security upgrade :)
[11:49] <seek> I'm running Breezy and have installed the nvidia kernel modules.  For some reason when I browse the web parts of the page will blank out.  Also, when menus come up, alot of the time I have to run my mouse cursor over the icons to make them appear.  I have a GeForce 7300 GS PCI-E.  Has anyone had any similar experiences?
[11:49] <chol> longwave, i had to upgrade for my ipw2200 when i upgraded kernel, debian otoh manages to have files in just /lib/firmware afaik
[11:49] <CarlFK> dswillia74437: but in answer to your question, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <krim> eggzeck, by the way, I didn't set up a swap partition. I tried to in the installation but it just wouldn't do it so I thought I'd wait until it was installed and then do it. Might that be the reason it's freezing up? I have 1gb ram.
[11:49] <eggzeck> CarlFK, no, he has to fix his /etc/apt/souces.list
[11:49] <gatekeeper> dswillia74437: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:50] <ardchoille> dswillia74437: You can always install it from the cd and then do sudo apt-get update
[11:50] <eggzeck> krim, no that wouldn't be why. Why couldn't you setup a swap?
[11:50] <krim> eggzeck, don't know why, I had everything set up but just before the installation when you see what changes you've done to the partitions it just wasn't there.
[11:50] <aninhumer> Can anyone help me, I only get a high pitched whine or nothing on my left sound channel.
[11:50] <wodger> krim does the live cd boot?
[11:51] <c|int> okay
[11:51] <krim> wodger, Yup
[11:51] <c|int> looks like we have all the firmware in there now
[11:51] <DrBashir2> Whats the default audio player in ubuntu dapper?
[11:51] <longwave> ok, now do "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" again
[11:51] <eggzeck> wodger, a live cd can boot even if the system can't get Ubuntu installed
[11:51] <dswillia74437> what respository would i add tho, all the ones in the sources.list have restricted after them
[11:51] <c|int> now what you want me to do, and I hear chol on that, or whatev. said something that might need to be in uname -r as well
[11:51] <c|int> wihch I know what th means.. not dumbO :P
[11:52] <c|int> hey that.. * feature is nice, so it just copies all the files close to that name, like.. bcm43xx like that, and copies all those eh
[11:52] <Carmenizer> Is there a way to make 64-bit Ubuntu to 32-bit ?
[11:52] <longwave> yep * in the middle of a filename means "anything goes here"
[11:52] <jrib> Carmenizer: reinstall
[11:52] <c|int> thats from what I seen, that realy cooll, ty
[11:52] <plastictabs> i apolgize, what's the off topic channel again?
[11:52] <longwave> well, or at the start or end even
[11:52] <DansFloyd> My battery meter works, but it can't calculate the remaining life... does anyone know a way to fix this?
[11:52] <zaist> Any one got any clues on how Casper works if one wants to change the defaut username (ubuntu) for something else ?
[11:52] <Carmenizer> Is there a way to make 64-bit Ubuntu to 32-bit ?
[11:52] <c|int> nice
[11:52] <Aagni> how do  i change the default option in my boot menu
[11:52] <jrib> plastictabs: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:52] <plastictabs> I have to bookmark it before this damn client crashed
[11:53] <tuliomgui> !codecs
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:53] <tuliomgui> hello!
[11:53] <gatekeeper> Carmenizer: it is possible to install 32bit software
[11:53] <rabbit7> hey i have a really out of topic question but maybe someone can help me
[11:53] <c|int> anything you want me to do now
[11:53] <eggzeck> rabbit7, #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:53] <tuliomgui> how do i add the alsa-oss to the ubuntu 6.06 lts???
[11:53] <longwave> c|int: did you do "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" again?
[11:53] <tuliomgui> i cant install it with the apt-get
[11:53] <jrib> !info alsa-oss
[11:53] <Spec> !info alsa-oss
[11:53] <c|int> chol, I"m hearin ya too .. so
[11:53] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10-1 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[11:53] <longwave> maybe this time there will be no error!
[11:53] <tuliomgui> !info alsa-oss
[11:53] <Spec> jrib: beat ya
[11:54] <gmt> hi guys anyone knows if there is a package out there for OpenACS?
[11:54] <tuliomgui> thanks!!
[11:54] <aninhumer> Can anyone help me, I only get a high pitched whine or nothing on my left sound channel.
[11:54] <jrib> tuliomgui: you need universe repository
[11:54] <rabbit7> i am writing a script which automaticaly burns some backups on a cdrom and i was looking for a way to test if the CD is empty.. but found none.. maybe you can point me in a direction
[11:54] <jrib> Spec: not on my screen, but the dial up may have something to do with that :)
[11:54] <tuliomgui> jrib: how do i add the repository??
[11:54] <c|int> didn't get no errors I think
[11:54] <jrib> !universe > tuliomgui
[11:54] <c|int> hee
[11:54] <longwave> c|int: ok, now do "sudo iwlist scan"
[11:54] <c|int> so is my wireless working?
[11:54] <c|int> k
[11:54] <Aagni> !grub
[11:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:55] <tuliomgui> !easysource
[11:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:55] <Carmenizer> Is there a way to make 64-bit Ubuntu to 32-bit ?
[11:55] <DrBashir2> Spec, depends where you are at, you got second on my client: <jrib> !info alsa-oss <Spec> !info alsa-oss
[11:55] <c|int> it works I think lmao
[11:55] <c|int> copy the whole dam chat :D
[11:55] <zaist> rabbit7: try to mount :)
[11:55] <Spec> DrBashir: damn, ssh, don't tell him that
[11:55] <c|int> sorry allz :)
[11:55] <DrBashir2> :D
  You would have to replace all of your libs with 32 bit ones.  NO.  Go reinstall
[11:55] <c|int> ;)
[11:55] <Spec> wait, let me check ubotu logs!
[11:55] <c|int> longwave: , I sending ya some money once I get some
[11:55] <c|int> :)
[11:55] <Spec> !ubotu
[11:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:55] <c|int> now how can I tell if wireless working :D
[11:55] <c|int> It see something like greystone :D
[11:56] <longwave> is that your router's name or whatever?
[11:56] <gatekeeper> Carmenizer: what specifically is your problem?
[11:56] <DrBashir2> Anyone, please tell me what the default internet radio station website is in Dapper/mplayer
[11:56] <rabbit7> zaist: yep thought of that.. but for example an audio disc isnt mountable..
[11:56] <Spec> damn, i don't think i can
[11:56] <fusionxn1> Firefox 1.5.0.5 is out for windows does linux have it yet?
[11:56] <jrib> Spec: you have to wait for tomorrow, try !logs
[11:56] <andyshack> i call my router C*NT
[11:56] <Zyfo> !logs
[11:56] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[11:57] <tuliomgui> fusionxn1: yes it has
[11:57] <ardchoille> rabbit7: I suppose you could mount the cd and then use an "if then" statement to test the existance of files in /path/to/cd/*
[11:57] <fusionxn1> tul can ubuntu update it?
[11:57] <jesspher> hey fusion
[11:58] <fusionxn1> hi jess
[11:58] <jesspher> is there any way that linux could repair clusters
[11:58] <jesspher> please help
[11:59] <DrBashir2> crap... I want to know the default audio player, but not the movie player... ppl please help me, click your menu, go to "Audio/video" and tell me what the audio player is (not movie)
[11:59] <fusionxn1> I have the linux package for firefox how do i update it?
[11:59] <rabbit7> ardchoille: mounting is a possibility .. but there could be a audio cd in the cdrom and mounting would fail too..
[11:59] <tuliomgui> fusionxn1: you probably have to add a repository but i dont know wich one
[11:59] <tuliomgui> you can go to www.getfirefox.com and download the newest version
[11:59] <fusionxn1> tul i have
[11:59] <fusionxn1> how do i upgrade it
[12:00] <jesspher> fusionxn1: is there a program in linux that can like repair hard drive clusters
[12:00] <DrBashir2> ... am I muted or somethin?
[12:00] <jesspher> please help
[12:00] <tuliomgui> fusionxn1: did you extracted the package??
[12:00] <chol> DrBashir2, why don't you just try to start some programs then and see what u get?
[12:00] <shiv> If I include these diectories /var,   /etc,  /home,  /usr/local is that enough to save my system configuration? I have a dell laptop and it took quite some time to fix fonts, resolution etc..WHat do u say?
[12:00] <chol> !patience > DrBashir2
[12:00] <profoX`> wiki.ubuntu.com down?