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cbx33evenin all12:18
LaserJockhello cbx33 12:20
cbx33hey LaserJock 12:21
cbx33get mp3's working yet?12:21
LaserJockyeah, I'm in OS X ;-)12:21
cbx33listened to the new draft?12:21
LaserJock3?12:22
cbx33yup12:22
LaserJockyeah, I did12:22
LaserJockthat's the login sound?12:22
cbx33suggestions?12:22
cbx33comments?12:22
LaserJockseems kinda long to me, but then again so does the current Ubuntu one12:23
cbx33shortening is not a problem12:24
cbx33just after the "swell"12:24
cbx33and I need some "living" material12:24
ogradont shorten it unless you speed up the gnome startup :)12:24
cbx33hehe12:24
cbx33anyone with kids, please get me some sounds of them laughing and playing12:25
cbx33not too young kids though12:25
LaserJockyou don't need a baby gurgle?12:25
LaserJock;-)12:25
cbx33hmmm12:26
cbx33I was hoping for more of a laugh12:26
cbx33:p12:26
cbx33I may have to do it myself and ramp up the sample speed :p12:26
LaserJockhaha12:26
ograjust go to a playground near you 12:26
ogra:)12:26
LaserJockI was just going to suggest that12:26
cbx33heheh12:27
cbx33hehe12:27
cbx33not too many round here that are actually used suprising ly12:27
LaserJockalthough you probably would get arrested here12:27
ogradont you work in a school ? 12:27
LaserJockYEAH!12:27
ograjust record the schoolyard ;)12:28
LaserJockand make sure to edit out the swearing ;-)12:28
cbx33schools out ogra my man12:28
cbx33summer time 12:28
ograpfft ...12:30
ogratell them they have to come ... you need them12:30
cbx33I would....I need some help shifting some stuff12:30
cbx33but we arn't allowed this year12:30
cbx33child protection or something12:31
cbx33Did I tell y'all I got busted by the cops for drugs today :p12:31
ograso you wont get around going to a swimming pool i guess :)12:31
cbx33They stopped me and searched me at the station.....12:31
cbx33cos their sniffer dog sat next to me12:31
cbx33indicating I had drugs on me :p12:31
cbx33which I didn't12:31
cbx33be back later on guys :p12:32
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cbx33it was quite funny12:32
cbx33I said maybe he picked up on the bad smell from our office at work12:33
LaserJockhehe12:33
ogra*g*12:33
cbx33I'll post up the police form on my blog later12:33
cbx33:D12:33
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mhzor. they could all shout "Edubuntu!"12:45
mhzwell, maybe, also "Bird Man!"12:46
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bddebianHello01:10
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mhz_foodgee! I had no idea bout this:01:16
mhz_foodhttp://www.fluxbuntu.org/01:16
mhz_foodnor01:16
mhz_foodhttp://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/01:16
LaserJockmhz_food: where have you been? ;-)01:27
mhz_foodhehe01:28
mhz_foodworking hard for edubuntu stuff only... not many ideas of what has been going on in overall01:28
jsgotangcoubuntu/edubuntu bah01:29
mhz_foodogra: btw, you suggested me to see Baltix01:29
mhz_foodogra: I can't find any other info but the one on LP01:29
mhz_foodwhich is poor01:29
ograno, i suggested to talk to the maintainers :)01:29
mhz_foodoooh01:30
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LaserJockholy cow, this VirtualDesktops for OS X is cool01:31
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LaserJockdoes XGL give you the little desktop cube switcher thing01:31
crimsunare you using parallels?01:31
LaserJockno01:31
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jsgotangcoLaserJock: the world is now moving from Ubuntu to MacOSX but you stick to MacOSX :)01:32
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LaserJockI'm riding the fence01:33
LaserJockbecause I kinda need the mac for work01:34
LaserJockbut I finally got Ubuntu on it yesterday01:34
LaserJockso now I've got a dual booting intel iMac01:34
LaserJock\o/01:34
LaserJockone thing I've missed on OS X is having virtual desktops01:34
LaserJockbut I found this awesome app today for that01:35
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cbx33w00t we have a freaky child laugh :p07:38
cbx33ping Yagisan 07:43
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jsgotangco?08:03
cbx33hey jsgotangco 08:04
jsgotangcohey you08:04
cbx33pm'd ya08:04
jsgotangcodownloading08:04
cbx33:D08:04
cbx33200k I think08:05
jsgotangcohey!08:05
jsgotangcothat is nice!08:05
cbx33yeh?08:05
cbx33best yet?08:05
cbx33I'm going to try and get a better child laugh08:05
jsgotangcohmm the laugh is a bit impish08:05
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jsgotangcoyeah08:05
cbx33audacity did the rest08:05
jsgotangcoor a child shouting ubuntu08:06
jsgotangcoerr08:06
jsgotangcoedubuntu08:06
cbx33that's a neat idea08:06
cbx33I was thinking of having slighly customised sounds for each *ubuntu distro08:06
cbx33but it may eat space08:06
cbx33thanks for the feedback08:06
cbx33overall a positive ?08:06
cbx33just need to get rid of the imp08:07
Yagisanimp ?08:07
cbx33the laughing at the end Yagisan 08:07
cbx33it was merely for demo puporses anyway08:07
cbx33and so far, apart fro mthe imp the entire thing was created using ubuntu software....no synth keyboards in this one08:08
Yagisanoh soory. when you say imp, I think of doom and the brown guys that throw fireballs08:08
cbx33Yagisan, me too08:09
jsgotangcoall that thing was done in audacity?08:09
cbx33actually I think of the "eeeeeeeEEEEEEeee" sound.....but i think it's the soldiers who make that noise08:09
cbx33jsgotangco, ardour actually08:09
jsgotangcoahh08:09
cbx33just used audacity to pitch shift my voice08:09
jsgotangcoi would be surprised if its all audacity08:10
jsgotangcosince you didnt pipe in a synth08:10
cbx33I used ZynAddSubFx for the synth08:10
cbx33and played it on the computer keyboard08:10
cbx33was fun at the train station yesterday08:10
cbx33and of course my favorite piece of software....JACK08:10
cbx33man that is an amazing system08:11
cbx33bbl08:11
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RichEdhello08:45
BurgundaviaRichEd: morning08:46
Burgundaviado you know of any organizations that would sponsor some content creation (kids games)08:46
RichEdnot sure Burgundavia : what age ? what style of game ? any branding / marketing opportunities ?08:47
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Burgundavia3-7, freddi the fish style08:49
RichEdcbx33: please lets start off in the channel, and ping me with a chat topic ... i really can't afford a private window every day first thing in the morning08:50
jsgotangcoBurgundavia: using child's play or gcompris as base?08:50
cbx33sorry RichEd 08:50
Burgundaviajsgotangco: the latter08:50
jsgotangcorevamped artwork would be nice too08:51
BurgundaviaI am busy trying to weld together the inkscape people with the gcompris people and us08:51
RichEdno problem ... just priorities that's all ... need to allocate time ... happy to do it when i knmow what it's about :)08:51
cbx33Burgundavia, sounds intriguing08:51
RichEdBurgundavia: need to think about the organisations active in that commercial segment 3-708:52
BurgundaviaI know there are a bunch of US foundations dedicated to education08:52
RichEdwho needs kids of 3-7 to think they are hip ... or who needs parents of kids 3-7 to think they are intersted in their kids ...08:53
RichEdgo with an anti-violence pitch message ?08:54
Burgundaviasure, happy cooperation08:54
RichEdso what about groups like "mothers against play-station violence" guessing there is such a sort of lobby08:55
RichEd:)08:55
jsgotangcohmm i guess you dont own a console at home heh08:55
RichEdogra / mdz / rodarvus : we on for meeting in 5 min ?08:56
RichEdBurgundavia: last suggestion ... the group who do music censorship & video ratings ? (just bouncing in some ideas from left field)08:57
Burgundaviahmm, not likely to extract money from them08:58
BurgundaviaI would like money with as few strings as possible08:58
cbx33RichEd, i was just gonna ask if you managed to read my mail?09:01
RichEdon the list - major mail pass after my meeting this morning 09:01
cbx33np09:02
cbx33will hopefully get the revised spreadsheet to you later today09:02
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cbx33right I'm off to work now guys09:05
cbx33see ya later09:05
RichEdcheers cbx33 have agood one09:05
RichEdogra / mdz / rodarvus : ignore my last comment ... approached UTC from the wrong direction ... see you in 4 hours09:06
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Burgundaviahttp://www.humanart.cz/grafika-30-oskar-a-jeho-pratele.html09:47
jsgotangcothats nice09:48
Burgundaviathat is the guy who I hope to create this kids stuff with09:49
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cgbx33ogra: http://progbox.co.uk/attempt4.mp312:32
cgbx33freaky imp laugh at the end to be replaced with something more innocent :p12:32
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mdzRichEd: hmm?12:45
RichEdmdz: ermmm ?12:46
ogra_hmm ?12:46
ogra_(just to join the choir)12:46
mdzRichEd: you spoke to me twice about a meeting12:46
RichEdyes ... 11:00 UTC ?12:47
ogra_in 10 mins 12:47
RichEdwe agreed #canonical-meeting ?12:47
mdzI don't remember discussing a meeting at this time12:47
mdzit's 4am here12:47
ogra_heavy thunderstorms here and i had random power outages already this morning ... might be that i'm offline occasionally12:47
RichEdwhen would suit you (both) ?12:48
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rodarvusRichEd, meeting in 12 minutes, right?12:48
rodarvusoh, ogra just mentioned it, sorry12:48
ogra_RichEd, but since rodarvus is nearer to mdz i guess some time in our late afternoon evening woud wuit them best12:49
ogra_suit12:49
rodarvusyes, quite likely12:49
mdzsomething agreed upon in advance would work for me12:49
mdzwhat's the subject of the meeting?12:49
RichEda brief intro chat about education direction before i see mark & janeS next week12:50
RichEdthings you would like to to table or discuss with them12:50
RichEdme to <- to to 12:50
RichEdthe main points being (1) to relieve you of work / tasks by me adding bandwith12:51
RichEdand (2) how we work towards the same goals - do we have a regular education core meeting & do you need or want to be involved12:52
rodarvusI'll be right back (need to reboot urgently)12:54
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RichEdmdz / ogra / rodarvus : apologies for the confusion then but i was under the impression that 11:00 UTC today was suggested01:09
RichEdmdz / ogra / rodarvus : would it be better to send an email with suggestions and questions asking for comment response ...01:10
mdzRichEd: yes01:10
mdzI'm only awake due to jetlag and plan to go back to sleep shortly01:10
RichEdokay ... i'll get something to you all for comment over the weekend ... can we possible fit in 30 min chat on monday / tuesday ?01:11
ogramonday might be bad for me ... 01:12
ogra(depending on my speed in moving)01:13
RichEdokay let's leave it open for tuesday some time ... i fly at 17h00 UTC ... so if we can't fit with mdz then we'll discuss his emal response between the 3 of us ?01:15
cgbx33ogra: did you hear attempt4?01:15
ogracgbx33, nope ....01:16
ograwhere does the g in your nick stand for ? 01:16
cgbx33i dont know01:16
ograheh01:16
cgbx33http://progbox.co.uk/attempt4.mp301:16
ograsounds evlish01:17
cgbx33yeh01:17
ogralike a giggling granny01:17
cgbx33it's gonna be replaced01:17
cgbx33oi....I'm no granny01:17
cgbx33it's just to see what it sounds like with a laugh01:17
ograi'd have a human element all over the sound, not only in the last 5 millisecs ...01:18
cgbx33ok01:18
ografade in some playing laughing childs in the first third01:18
cgbx33ok01:18
rodarvusRichEd, agreed01:19
ograRichEd, yep, fine with me01:20
ograi *should* be done with moving on monday though ... i just cant promise it01:20
cgbx33now I just need to find some children01:20
RichEdokay ... non-meeting closed ... moving it to email ... resume threads on monday01:20
ogrago to a public swimming pool01:20
RichEdogra: no need to stress ... tue is fine01:20
cgbx33and take my laptop in there? :p01:21
ograsure01:21
ograor a tape 01:21
ogra(i dont mean you should swim with it :P)01:22
RichEdit 'prolly will be best to present mdz with options for quick review & comment ... we should make internal suggestions first and see what is supported, modified, or shot down ;)01:22
RichEdall for now ... back to task list for me01:22
cgbx33ogra: i must have gotten the wrong idea :p01:23
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jsgotangcohey kids03:05
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ogra_now you are really edubuntu ! :)03:07
rodarvus:)03:08
rodarvusit was time to finally upload it ;)03:08
rodarvusI didn't knew much about germinate before03:08
ogra_yep, -desktop just got uninstalled here03:09
rodarvusamazing how germinate+seeds work wonderfully03:09
ogra_yup03:09
ogra_its just taking a ton of diskspace for all these files ... it could really need some options if you want only cheack a small thing ...03:09
rodarvusit is really a piece of cake - no manual work required, and even debian/changelog is filled for you03:09
ogra_(i mean germinate standalone here)03:10
rodarvusjsgotangco, hi there03:10
ogra_btw Xorg crashes in intresting ways if you use fglrx 03:11
jsgotangcobom dia rodarvus como esta?03:11
ogra_i had a ton of errors from the synaptics driver about unresolved symbols 03:11
ogra_(no indication at all about fglrx being at fault )03:12
ogra_so expect some intresting bugreports from ati users :)03:12
jsgotangcoAccepted:03:12
jsgotangco OK: edubuntu-meta_1.4.dsc03:12
rodarvusopa03:12
jsgotangcoChanged-By: Rodrigo Parra Novo <rodarvus@ubuntu.com>03:13
rodarvusjsgotangco aprendeu portugus - que legal!03:13
rodarvusogra_, fglrx was not updated yet, actually03:13
ogranope03:13
rodarvusogra, which unresolved symbols you got on synaptics?03:14
ograi had to switch to ati ... but the errors didnt indicate any probs with fglrx03:14
rodarvusyou're not the first person to tell me this, but I've seen no bug report yet03:14
jsgotangcorodarvus: Eu estou aprendendo03:14
ogradamned ... i'll have to switch back to fglrx to check that ...03:14
ograi have no log saved here 03:14
ograbut it should be reproducable03:15
rodarvusjsgotangco, cool :)03:15
rodarvusogra, appreciated!03:15
ograbrb03:16
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ograrodarvus, bug 54357 for you03:22
rodarvusogra, thanks so much!03:22
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ograi kept the whole log (and noticed an error from fglrx this time as well) in case you need it03:22
rodarvushmm03:23
rodarvusit looks like this bug is somehow related to the -fstack-protector flag of gss-ssp03:23
bddebianHello03:23
ograin any case its not fglrx related, i see it in the log of the running server as well03:24
rodarvusyup03:25
rodarvussurely not fglrx related03:25
rodarvusI have just asked on #ubuntu-toolchain03:25
rodarvusit seems to me that this bug is due to -fstack-protection flag added recently03:26
ograyup03:26
ograyou can add -fno-stack-protection to the build opts to work around it03:26
rodarvusyup, just want to make sure this is really the case03:28
rodarvus(and indeed, it really seems to be)03:28
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DanielCYay! Someone just advocated my package in Revu!04:32
DanielChttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=280604:32
DanielCI just need one more advocate... :)04:33
mhz_workcongrats DanielC ;)04:36
DanielC:)04:36
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rodarvusDanielC, actually, it seems you already have two advocates.04:50
bddebianDanielC: You have 2 advocates04:51
DanielCyeah, it happened just a minute ago.04:53
DanielCYYEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!104:53
DanielCI'm happy.04:53
DanielCI'm in Universe baby!04:53
DanielCThis weekend I'll make a package for the writer guide. Now that I've made all the mistakes with my first package, this second one should go in more smoothly.04:54
jsgotangcohey04:55
jsgotangcocongrats04:55
DanielC:D04:55
mhz_work*\o/*04:56
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jsgotangcogood night05:41
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cbx33ogra, the sounds I'm making06:37
cbx33are you intending for them to be edubuntu specific?06:37
cbx33hi LaserJock 06:37
LaserJockhi cbx33 06:39
cbx33howz you?06:39
cbx33everything going ok?06:39
LaserJockI guess06:40
LaserJockhard to say this early in the day for me :-)06:40
cbx33hehe06:40
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DanielCDoes anyone know how long it takes for packages.ubuntu.com to be updated?08:01
DanielCI want to show all my friends that I have a package in Universe :)08:01
LaserJockhehe08:01
LaserJockit'll take a while08:01
DanielCok08:02
LaserJockthe build farm is backed up08:02
LaserJocksome stuff is behind a week or so08:02
DanielCa week!08:02
LaserJockbut it seems to be picking up08:02
DanielCOn Revu, what do those pictures mean? My package went from having a lightbulb and a hammer to having a lightbulb and a heart.08:04
LaserJockyep08:04
LaserJockthat means it's been approved08:04
DanielCI guess that the hammer means "work in progress" and the heart means "accepted" but what's the lightbulb?08:04
LaserJockjust hold your mouse on the icon and it will give you a little message08:04
DanielCnew08:05
DanielCthanks08:05
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DanielCI just uploaded a package for the Writer guide. It's almost identical to the one that just got approved, so I hope this one will go through smoothly.08:06
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LaserJockI would think so08:08
DanielC:)08:08
DanielCLaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=280908:21
DanielCWriter guide in Revu.08:22
cbx33DanielC, I'm still waiting for my pacakge to get in :p08:33
LaserJockDanielC: oh yeah, your package is probably still in NEW08:33
cbx33LaserJock, why is mine not got the "approved" heart08:34
crimsunwhich package?08:34
crimsun(or packages)08:35
LaserJockhmm, probably because I didn't archive it08:35
cbx33heheh thanks LaserJock 08:35
rodarvusDanielC, first your package must be accepted into the archive08:45
rodarvusas two of the three persons that usually do this are not here for the next few days08:45
DanielCrodarvus: I don't understand, isn't that what happened today?08:45
rodarvusDanielC, your package was accepted into ubuntu08:45
rodarvusbut it is new for the publishing system08:45
DanielCok...08:46
rodarvusthe publishing system (called Soyuz) knows nothing about revu.tauware.de, I think08:46
DanielCah08:46
rodarvusI believe revu is of a more political nature08:46
DanielCso it's not another "approval" stage, it's just an infrastructural thing?08:46
rodarvusexactly.08:47
DanielCgreat :)08:47
rodarvusif revu was implemented inside LaunchPad, this would be automatic08:47
rodarvus(or could be, even)08:47
DanielCand I guess that's a goal for the future.08:47
rodarvusyeah, probably08:47
rodarvusDanielC, your package will be reviewed again, by an ubuntu-archive member (they are very talented and experienced people)08:48
DanielCok08:48
Amaranthanyone got an example of how to make my daemon run as it's own user?08:49
rodarvusbut as it was already reviewed by a few people on revu, its probably ok08:49
Amaranthi stole the user creation stuff from cups, just need to know how to make it run as that user08:49
Burgworkrodarvus, revu v3 is going to be integrated into LP08:50
Amaranthmaybe i should ask in #ubuntu-motu :)08:50
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LaserJockBurgwork: revu v3? we don't even have revu2 yet :-)09:08
LaserJockrevu is sort of like a prereview to get stuff sponsored by MOTU, it still has to go through all the same stuff afterword (i.e. NEW processing for new packages) that any other packages has to09:10
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LaserJockogra: I'll have to admin, edubuntu-dynamic-menus has got me stumped right now09:45
DanielCadmint? :)09:45
DanielCadmit09:45
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LaserJockadmit09:45
LaserJockbah09:45
DanielCspelling is over-rated :)09:45
LaserJockumm, yeah. Don't tell that to the doc team people who have to correct my stuff09:46
DanielC:)09:47
ograjust use xchat with libsexy :)09:47
ograit does spell checking on the input field :)09:47
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LaserJockyeah, that's the only thing I don't like about irssi really09:48
DanielCis it really called libsexy?09:48
LaserJockyeah09:48
DanielChe he he09:48
ograi tgoes fine together with liboobs :P09:48
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Burgworkx-g uses that already09:56
ograx-g ?09:59
Burgworkxchat-gnome10:00
ograxchat as well since edgy started10:00
ogra:)10:00
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