=== cbx33 [n=542de178@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:18] evenin all [12:20] hello cbx33 [12:21] hey LaserJock [12:21] get mp3's working yet? [12:21] yeah, I'm in OS X ;-) [12:21] listened to the new draft? [12:22] 3? [12:22] yup [12:22] yeah, I did [12:22] that's the login sound? [12:22] suggestions? [12:22] comments? [12:23] seems kinda long to me, but then again so does the current Ubuntu one [12:24] shortening is not a problem [12:24] just after the "swell" [12:24] and I need some "living" material [12:24] dont shorten it unless you speed up the gnome startup :) [12:24] hehe [12:25] anyone with kids, please get me some sounds of them laughing and playing [12:25] not too young kids though [12:25] you don't need a baby gurgle? [12:25] ;-) [12:26] hmmm [12:26] I was hoping for more of a laugh [12:26] :p [12:26] I may have to do it myself and ramp up the sample speed :p [12:26] haha [12:26] just go to a playground near you [12:26] :) [12:26] I was just going to suggest that [12:27] heheh [12:27] hehe [12:27] not too many round here that are actually used suprising ly [12:27] although you probably would get arrested here [12:27] dont you work in a school ? [12:27] YEAH! [12:28] just record the schoolyard ;) [12:28] and make sure to edit out the swearing ;-) [12:28] schools out ogra my man [12:28] summer time [12:30] pfft ... [12:30] tell them they have to come ... you need them [12:30] I would....I need some help shifting some stuff [12:30] but we arn't allowed this year [12:31] child protection or something [12:31] Did I tell y'all I got busted by the cops for drugs today :p [12:31] so you wont get around going to a swimming pool i guess :) [12:31] They stopped me and searched me at the station..... [12:31] cos their sniffer dog sat next to me [12:31] indicating I had drugs on me :p [12:31] which I didn't [12:32] be back later on guys :p === monteiro [n=monteiro@84.90.114.191] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] it was quite funny [12:33] I said maybe he picked up on the bad smell from our office at work [12:33] hehe [12:33] *g* [12:33] I'll post up the police form on my blog later [12:33] :D === monteiro [n=monteiro@84.90.114.191] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:45] or. they could all shout "Edubuntu!" [12:46] well, maybe, also "Bird Man!" === mhz gets back to work :) === mhz is now known as mhz_food === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [01:10] Hello === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [01:16] gee! I had no idea bout this: [01:16] http://www.fluxbuntu.org/ [01:16] nor [01:16] http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ [01:27] mhz_food: where have you been? ;-) [01:28] hehe [01:28] working hard for edubuntu stuff only... not many ideas of what has been going on in overall [01:29] ubuntu/edubuntu bah [01:29] ogra: btw, you suggested me to see Baltix [01:29] ogra: I can't find any other info but the one on LP [01:29] which is poor [01:29] no, i suggested to talk to the maintainers :) [01:30] oooh === mhz_food gets back to ccoking [01:31] holy cow, this VirtualDesktops for OS X is cool === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:31] does XGL give you the little desktop cube switcher thing [01:31] are you using parallels? [01:31] no === LaserJock enters the age of eyecandy [01:32] LaserJock: the world is now moving from Ubuntu to MacOSX but you stick to MacOSX :) === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:33] I'm riding the fence [01:34] because I kinda need the mac for work [01:34] but I finally got Ubuntu on it yesterday [01:34] so now I've got a dual booting intel iMac [01:34] \o/ [01:34] one thing I've missed on OS X is having virtual desktops [01:35] but I found this awesome app today for that === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-227-246.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@p54AEECC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_food is now known as mhz === pygi__ [n=pygi@89-172-200-199.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu === pygi__ is now known as pygi === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-72-66-55-236.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_zZzZ === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-204-198.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-204-198.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ is now known as pygi === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] w00t we have a freaky child laugh :p [07:43] ping Yagisan === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [08:03] ? [08:04] hey jsgotangco [08:04] hey you [08:04] pm'd ya [08:04] downloading [08:04] :D [08:05] 200k I think [08:05] hey! [08:05] that is nice! [08:05] yeh? [08:05] best yet? [08:05] I'm going to try and get a better child laugh [08:05] hmm the laugh is a bit impish === cbx33 is the imp [08:05] yeah [08:05] audacity did the rest [08:06] or a child shouting ubuntu [08:06] err [08:06] edubuntu [08:06] that's a neat idea [08:06] I was thinking of having slighly customised sounds for each *ubuntu distro [08:06] but it may eat space [08:06] thanks for the feedback [08:06] overall a positive ? [08:07] just need to get rid of the imp [08:07] imp ? [08:07] the laughing at the end Yagisan [08:07] it was merely for demo puporses anyway [08:08] and so far, apart fro mthe imp the entire thing was created using ubuntu software....no synth keyboards in this one [08:08] oh soory. when you say imp, I think of doom and the brown guys that throw fireballs [08:09] Yagisan, me too [08:09] all that thing was done in audacity? [08:09] actually I think of the "eeeeeeeEEEEEEeee" sound.....but i think it's the soldiers who make that noise [08:09] jsgotangco, ardour actually [08:09] ahh [08:09] just used audacity to pitch shift my voice [08:10] i would be surprised if its all audacity [08:10] since you didnt pipe in a synth [08:10] I used ZynAddSubFx for the synth [08:10] and played it on the computer keyboard [08:10] was fun at the train station yesterday [08:10] and of course my favorite piece of software....JACK [08:11] man that is an amazing system [08:11] bbl === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-192-129.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [08:45] hello [08:46] RichEd: morning [08:46] do you know of any organizations that would sponsor some content creation (kids games) [08:47] not sure Burgundavia : what age ? what style of game ? any branding / marketing opportunities ? === RichEd ponders cell phone networks & the like [08:49] 3-7, freddi the fish style [08:50] cbx33: please lets start off in the channel, and ping me with a chat topic ... i really can't afford a private window every day first thing in the morning [08:50] Burgundavia: using child's play or gcompris as base? [08:50] sorry RichEd [08:50] jsgotangco: the latter [08:51] revamped artwork would be nice too [08:51] I am busy trying to weld together the inkscape people with the gcompris people and us [08:51] no problem ... just priorities that's all ... need to allocate time ... happy to do it when i knmow what it's about :) [08:51] Burgundavia, sounds intriguing [08:52] Burgundavia: need to think about the organisations active in that commercial segment 3-7 [08:52] I know there are a bunch of US foundations dedicated to education [08:53] who needs kids of 3-7 to think they are hip ... or who needs parents of kids 3-7 to think they are intersted in their kids ... [08:54] go with an anti-violence pitch message ? [08:54] sure, happy cooperation [08:55] so what about groups like "mothers against play-station violence" guessing there is such a sort of lobby [08:55] :) [08:55] hmm i guess you dont own a console at home heh [08:56] ogra / mdz / rodarvus : we on for meeting in 5 min ? [08:57] Burgundavia: last suggestion ... the group who do music censorship & video ratings ? (just bouncing in some ideas from left field) [08:58] hmm, not likely to extract money from them [08:58] I would like money with as few strings as possible [09:01] RichEd, i was just gonna ask if you managed to read my mail? [09:01] on the list - major mail pass after my meeting this morning [09:02] np [09:02] will hopefully get the revised spreadsheet to you later today === pygi_ is now known as pygi [09:05] right I'm off to work now guys [09:05] see ya later [09:05] cheers cbx33 have agood one [09:06] ogra / mdz / rodarvus : ignore my last comment ... approached UTC from the wrong direction ... see you in 4 hours === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-231-105.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:47] http://www.humanart.cz/grafika-30-oskar-a-jeho-pratele.html [09:48] thats nice [09:49] that is the guy who I hope to create this kids stuff with === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ is now known as Rondom === pygi__ [n=pygi@89-172-198-198.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089E194.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-201-198.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === cgbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-201-198.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] ogra: http://progbox.co.uk/attempt4.mp3 [12:32] freaky imp laugh at the end to be replaced with something more innocent :p === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DD6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:45] RichEd: hmm? [12:46] mdz: ermmm ? [12:46] hmm ? [12:46] (just to join the choir) [12:46] RichEd: you spoke to me twice about a meeting [12:47] yes ... 11:00 UTC ? [12:47] in 10 mins [12:47] we agreed #canonical-meeting ? [12:47] I don't remember discussing a meeting at this time [12:47] it's 4am here [12:47] heavy thunderstorms here and i had random power outages already this morning ... might be that i'm offline occasionally [12:48] when would suit you (both) ? === ogra_ doesnt care [12:48] RichEd, meeting in 12 minutes, right? [12:48] oh, ogra just mentioned it, sorry [12:49] RichEd, but since rodarvus is nearer to mdz i guess some time in our late afternoon evening woud wuit them best [12:49] suit [12:49] yes, quite likely [12:49] something agreed upon in advance would work for me [12:49] what's the subject of the meeting? [12:50] a brief intro chat about education direction before i see mark & janeS next week [12:50] things you would like to to table or discuss with them [12:50] me to <- to to [12:51] the main points being (1) to relieve you of work / tasks by me adding bandwith [12:52] and (2) how we work towards the same goals - do we have a regular education core meeting & do you need or want to be involved [12:54] I'll be right back (need to reboot urgently) === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [01:09] mdz / ogra / rodarvus : apologies for the confusion then but i was under the impression that 11:00 UTC today was suggested [01:10] mdz / ogra / rodarvus : would it be better to send an email with suggestions and questions asking for comment response ... [01:10] RichEd: yes [01:10] I'm only awake due to jetlag and plan to go back to sleep shortly [01:11] okay ... i'll get something to you all for comment over the weekend ... can we possible fit in 30 min chat on monday / tuesday ? [01:12] monday might be bad for me ... [01:13] (depending on my speed in moving) [01:15] okay let's leave it open for tuesday some time ... i fly at 17h00 UTC ... so if we can't fit with mdz then we'll discuss his emal response between the 3 of us ? [01:15] ogra: did you hear attempt4? [01:16] cgbx33, nope .... [01:16] where does the g in your nick stand for ? [01:16] i dont know [01:16] heh [01:16] http://progbox.co.uk/attempt4.mp3 [01:17] sounds evlish [01:17] yeh [01:17] like a giggling granny [01:17] it's gonna be replaced [01:17] oi....I'm no granny [01:17] it's just to see what it sounds like with a laugh [01:18] i'd have a human element all over the sound, not only in the last 5 millisecs ... [01:18] ok [01:18] fade in some playing laughing childs in the first third [01:18] ok [01:19] RichEd, agreed [01:20] RichEd, yep, fine with me [01:20] i *should* be done with moving on monday though ... i just cant promise it [01:20] now I just need to find some children [01:20] okay ... non-meeting closed ... moving it to email ... resume threads on monday [01:20] go to a public swimming pool [01:20] ogra: no need to stress ... tue is fine [01:21] and take my laptop in there? :p [01:21] sure [01:21] or a tape [01:22] (i dont mean you should swim with it :P) [01:22] it 'prolly will be best to present mdz with options for quick review & comment ... we should make internal suggestions first and see what is supported, modified, or shot down ;) [01:22] all for now ... back to task list for me [01:23] ogra: i must have gotten the wrong idea :p === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-233-185.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DD6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:05] hey kids === ogra_ applauds rodarvus for his first edubuntu-meta upload ... [03:07] now you are really edubuntu ! :) [03:08] :) [03:08] it was time to finally upload it ;) [03:08] I didn't knew much about germinate before [03:09] yep, -desktop just got uninstalled here [03:09] amazing how germinate+seeds work wonderfully [03:09] yup [03:09] its just taking a ton of diskspace for all these files ... it could really need some options if you want only cheack a small thing ... [03:09] it is really a piece of cake - no manual work required, and even debian/changelog is filled for you [03:10] (i mean germinate standalone here) [03:10] jsgotangco, hi there [03:11] btw Xorg crashes in intresting ways if you use fglrx [03:11] bom dia rodarvus como esta? [03:11] i had a ton of errors from the synaptics driver about unresolved symbols [03:12] (no indication at all about fglrx being at fault ) [03:12] so expect some intresting bugreports from ati users :) [03:12] Accepted: [03:12] OK: edubuntu-meta_1.4.dsc [03:12] opa [03:13] Changed-By: Rodrigo Parra Novo [03:13] jsgotangco aprendeu portugus - que legal! [03:13] ogra_, fglrx was not updated yet, actually [03:13] nope [03:14] ogra, which unresolved symbols you got on synaptics? [03:14] i had to switch to ati ... but the errors didnt indicate any probs with fglrx [03:14] you're not the first person to tell me this, but I've seen no bug report yet [03:14] rodarvus: Eu estou aprendendo [03:14] damned ... i'll have to switch back to fglrx to check that ... [03:14] i have no log saved here [03:15] but it should be reproducable [03:15] jsgotangco, cool :) [03:15] ogra, appreciated! [03:16] brb === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [03:22] rodarvus, bug 54357 for you [03:22] ogra, thanks so much! === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:22] i kept the whole log (and noticed an error from fglrx this time as well) in case you need it [03:23] hmm [03:23] it looks like this bug is somehow related to the -fstack-protector flag of gss-ssp [03:23] Hello [03:24] in any case its not fglrx related, i see it in the log of the running server as well [03:25] yup [03:25] surely not fglrx related [03:25] I have just asked on #ubuntu-toolchain [03:26] it seems to me that this bug is due to -fstack-protection flag added recently [03:26] yup [03:26] you can add -fno-stack-protection to the build opts to work around it [03:28] yup, just want to make sure this is really the case [03:28] (and indeed, it really seems to be) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-233-185.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@68-12-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@pc-84-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_work === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu [04:32] Yay! Someone just advocated my package in Revu! [04:32] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2806 [04:33] I just need one more advocate... :) [04:36] congrats DanielC ;) [04:36] :) === kjcole [n=chatzill@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu [04:50] DanielC, actually, it seems you already have two advocates. [04:51] DanielC: You have 2 advocates [04:53] yeah, it happened just a minute ago. [04:53] YYEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!1 [04:53] I'm happy. [04:53] I'm in Universe baby! [04:54] This weekend I'll make a package for the writer guide. Now that I've made all the mistakes with my first package, this second one should go in more smoothly. [04:55] hey [04:55] congrats [04:55] :D [04:56] *\o/* === caravena [n=caravena@140-171-28.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_work is now known as mhz_off === cbx33 [n=542de178@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === dan_young [n=dyoung@fw13x.mesd.k12.or.us] has joined #edubuntu [05:41] good night === sbartleylinux [n=sbartley@67.108.61.130] has joined #edubuntu === Kozuch [n=jan@14.125.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:37] ogra, the sounds I'm making [06:37] are you intending for them to be edubuntu specific? [06:37] hi LaserJock [06:39] hi cbx33 [06:39] howz you? [06:39] everything going ok? [06:40] I guess [06:40] hard to say this early in the day for me :-) [06:40] hehe === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-205-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu [08:01] Does anyone know how long it takes for packages.ubuntu.com to be updated? [08:01] I want to show all my friends that I have a package in Universe :) [08:01] hehe [08:01] it'll take a while [08:02] ok [08:02] the build farm is backed up [08:02] some stuff is behind a week or so [08:02] a week! [08:02] but it seems to be picking up [08:04] On Revu, what do those pictures mean? My package went from having a lightbulb and a hammer to having a lightbulb and a heart. [08:04] yep [08:04] that means it's been approved [08:04] I guess that the hammer means "work in progress" and the heart means "accepted" but what's the lightbulb? [08:04] just hold your mouse on the icon and it will give you a little message [08:05] new [08:05] thanks === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs4.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:06] I just uploaded a package for the Writer guide. It's almost identical to the one that just got approved, so I hope this one will go through smoothly. === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [08:08] I would think so [08:08] :) [08:21] LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2809 [08:22] Writer guide in Revu. [08:33] DanielC, I'm still waiting for my pacakge to get in :p [08:33] DanielC: oh yeah, your package is probably still in NEW [08:34] LaserJock, why is mine not got the "approved" heart [08:34] which package? [08:35] (or packages) [08:35] hmm, probably because I didn't archive it [08:35] heheh thanks LaserJock [08:45] DanielC, first your package must be accepted into the archive [08:45] as two of the three persons that usually do this are not here for the next few days [08:45] rodarvus: I don't understand, isn't that what happened today? [08:45] DanielC, your package was accepted into ubuntu [08:45] but it is new for the publishing system [08:46] ok... [08:46] the publishing system (called Soyuz) knows nothing about revu.tauware.de, I think [08:46] ah [08:46] I believe revu is of a more political nature [08:46] so it's not another "approval" stage, it's just an infrastructural thing? [08:47] exactly. [08:47] great :) [08:47] if revu was implemented inside LaunchPad, this would be automatic [08:47] (or could be, even) [08:47] and I guess that's a goal for the future. [08:47] yeah, probably [08:48] DanielC, your package will be reviewed again, by an ubuntu-archive member (they are very talented and experienced people) [08:48] ok [08:49] anyone got an example of how to make my daemon run as it's own user? [08:49] but as it was already reviewed by a few people on revu, its probably ok [08:49] i stole the user creation stuff from cups, just need to know how to make it run as that user [08:50] rodarvus, revu v3 is going to be integrated into LP [08:50] maybe i should ask in #ubuntu-motu :) === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [09:08] Burgwork: revu v3? we don't even have revu2 yet :-) [09:10] revu is sort of like a prereview to get stuff sponsored by MOTU, it still has to go through all the same stuff afterword (i.e. NEW processing for new packages) that any other packages has to === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [09:45] ogra: I'll have to admin, edubuntu-dynamic-menus has got me stumped right now [09:45] admint? :) [09:45] admit === DanielC can't spell either [09:45] admit [09:45] bah [09:45] spelling is over-rated :) [09:46] umm, yeah. Don't tell that to the doc team people who have to correct my stuff [09:47] :) [09:47] just use xchat with libsexy :) [09:47] it does spell checking on the input field :) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [09:48] yeah, that's the only thing I don't like about irssi really [09:48] is it really called libsexy? [09:48] yeah [09:48] he he he [09:48] i tgoes fine together with liboobs :P === pygi__ [n=pygi@89-172-238-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:56] x-g uses that already [09:59] x-g ? 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