[12:18] <cbx33> evenin all
[12:20] <LaserJock> hello cbx33 
[12:21] <cbx33> hey LaserJock 
[12:21] <cbx33> get mp3's working yet?
[12:21] <LaserJock> yeah, I'm in OS X ;-)
[12:21] <cbx33> listened to the new draft?
[12:22] <LaserJock> 3?
[12:22] <cbx33> yup
[12:22] <LaserJock> yeah, I did
[12:22] <LaserJock> that's the login sound?
[12:22] <cbx33> suggestions?
[12:22] <cbx33> comments?
[12:23] <LaserJock> seems kinda long to me, but then again so does the current Ubuntu one
[12:24] <cbx33> shortening is not a problem
[12:24] <cbx33> just after the "swell"
[12:24] <cbx33> and I need some "living" material
[12:24] <ogra> dont shorten it unless you speed up the gnome startup :)
[12:24] <cbx33> hehe
[12:25] <cbx33> anyone with kids, please get me some sounds of them laughing and playing
[12:25] <cbx33> not too young kids though
[12:25] <LaserJock> you don't need a baby gurgle?
[12:25] <LaserJock> ;-)
[12:26] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:26] <cbx33> I was hoping for more of a laugh
[12:26] <cbx33> :p
[12:26] <cbx33> I may have to do it myself and ramp up the sample speed :p
[12:26] <LaserJock> haha
[12:26] <ogra> just go to a playground near you 
[12:26] <ogra> :)
[12:26] <LaserJock> I was just going to suggest that
[12:27] <cbx33> heheh
[12:27] <cbx33> hehe
[12:27] <cbx33> not too many round here that are actually used suprising ly
[12:27] <LaserJock> although you probably would get arrested here
[12:27] <ogra> dont you work in a school ? 
[12:27] <LaserJock> YEAH!
[12:28] <ogra> just record the schoolyard ;)
[12:28] <LaserJock> and make sure to edit out the swearing ;-)
[12:28] <cbx33> schools out ogra my man
[12:28] <cbx33> summer time 
[12:30] <ogra> pfft ...
[12:30] <ogra> tell them they have to come ... you need them
[12:30] <cbx33> I would....I need some help shifting some stuff
[12:30] <cbx33> but we arn't allowed this year
[12:31] <cbx33> child protection or something
[12:31] <cbx33> Did I tell y'all I got busted by the cops for drugs today :p
[12:31] <ogra> so you wont get around going to a swimming pool i guess :)
[12:31] <cbx33> They stopped me and searched me at the station.....
[12:31] <cbx33> cos their sniffer dog sat next to me
[12:31] <cbx33> indicating I had drugs on me :p
[12:31] <cbx33> which I didn't
[12:32] <cbx33> be back later on guys :p
[12:32] <cbx33> it was quite funny
[12:33] <cbx33> I said maybe he picked up on the bad smell from our office at work
[12:33] <LaserJock> hehe
[12:33] <ogra> *g*
[12:33] <cbx33> I'll post up the police form on my blog later
[12:33] <cbx33> :D
[12:45] <mhz> or. they could all shout "Edubuntu!"
[12:46] <mhz> well, maybe, also "Bird Man!"
[01:10] <bddebian> Hello
[01:16] <mhz_food> gee! I had no idea bout this:
[01:16] <mhz_food> http://www.fluxbuntu.org/
[01:16] <mhz_food> nor
[01:16] <mhz_food> http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/
[01:27] <LaserJock> mhz_food: where have you been? ;-)
[01:28] <mhz_food> hehe
[01:28] <mhz_food> working hard for edubuntu stuff only... not many ideas of what has been going on in overall
[01:29] <jsgotangco> ubuntu/edubuntu bah
[01:29] <mhz_food> ogra: btw, you suggested me to see Baltix
[01:29] <mhz_food> ogra: I can't find any other info but the one on LP
[01:29] <mhz_food> which is poor
[01:29] <ogra> no, i suggested to talk to the maintainers :)
[01:30] <mhz_food> oooh
[01:31] <LaserJock> holy cow, this VirtualDesktops for OS X is cool
[01:31] <LaserJock> does XGL give you the little desktop cube switcher thing
[01:31] <crimsun> are you using parallels?
[01:31] <LaserJock> no
[01:32] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: the world is now moving from Ubuntu to MacOSX but you stick to MacOSX :)
[01:33] <LaserJock> I'm riding the fence
[01:34] <LaserJock> because I kinda need the mac for work
[01:34] <LaserJock> but I finally got Ubuntu on it yesterday
[01:34] <LaserJock> so now I've got a dual booting intel iMac
[01:34] <LaserJock> \o/
[01:34] <LaserJock> one thing I've missed on OS X is having virtual desktops
[01:35] <LaserJock> but I found this awesome app today for that
[07:38] <cbx33> w00t we have a freaky child laugh :p
[07:43] <cbx33> ping Yagisan 
[08:03] <jsgotangco> ?
[08:04] <cbx33> hey jsgotangco 
[08:04] <jsgotangco> hey you
[08:04] <cbx33> pm'd ya
[08:04] <jsgotangco> downloading
[08:04] <cbx33> :D
[08:05] <cbx33> 200k I think
[08:05] <jsgotangco> hey!
[08:05] <jsgotangco> that is nice!
[08:05] <cbx33> yeh?
[08:05] <cbx33> best yet?
[08:05] <cbx33> I'm going to try and get a better child laugh
[08:05] <jsgotangco> hmm the laugh is a bit impish
[08:05] <jsgotangco> yeah
[08:05] <cbx33> audacity did the rest
[08:06] <jsgotangco> or a child shouting ubuntu
[08:06] <jsgotangco> err
[08:06] <jsgotangco> edubuntu
[08:06] <cbx33> that's a neat idea
[08:06] <cbx33> I was thinking of having slighly customised sounds for each *ubuntu distro
[08:06] <cbx33> but it may eat space
[08:06] <cbx33> thanks for the feedback
[08:06] <cbx33> overall a positive ?
[08:07] <cbx33> just need to get rid of the imp
[08:07] <Yagisan> imp ?
[08:07] <cbx33> the laughing at the end Yagisan 
[08:07] <cbx33> it was merely for demo puporses anyway
[08:08] <cbx33> and so far, apart fro mthe imp the entire thing was created using ubuntu software....no synth keyboards in this one
[08:08] <Yagisan> oh soory. when you say imp, I think of doom and the brown guys that throw fireballs
[08:09] <cbx33> Yagisan, me too
[08:09] <jsgotangco> all that thing was done in audacity?
[08:09] <cbx33> actually I think of the "eeeeeeeEEEEEEeee" sound.....but i think it's the soldiers who make that noise
[08:09] <cbx33> jsgotangco, ardour actually
[08:09] <jsgotangco> ahh
[08:09] <cbx33> just used audacity to pitch shift my voice
[08:10] <jsgotangco> i would be surprised if its all audacity
[08:10] <jsgotangco> since you didnt pipe in a synth
[08:10] <cbx33> I used ZynAddSubFx for the synth
[08:10] <cbx33> and played it on the computer keyboard
[08:10] <cbx33> was fun at the train station yesterday
[08:10] <cbx33> and of course my favorite piece of software....JACK
[08:11] <cbx33> man that is an amazing system
[08:11] <cbx33> bbl
[08:45] <RichEd> hello
[08:46] <Burgundavia> RichEd: morning
[08:46] <Burgundavia> do you know of any organizations that would sponsor some content creation (kids games)
[08:47] <RichEd> not sure Burgundavia : what age ? what style of game ? any branding / marketing opportunities ?
[08:49] <Burgundavia> 3-7, freddi the fish style
[08:50] <RichEd> cbx33: please lets start off in the channel, and ping me with a chat topic ... i really can't afford a private window every day first thing in the morning
[08:50] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: using child's play or gcompris as base?
[08:50] <cbx33> sorry RichEd 
[08:50] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: the latter
[08:51] <jsgotangco> revamped artwork would be nice too
[08:51] <Burgundavia> I am busy trying to weld together the inkscape people with the gcompris people and us
[08:51] <RichEd> no problem ... just priorities that's all ... need to allocate time ... happy to do it when i knmow what it's about :)
[08:51] <cbx33> Burgundavia, sounds intriguing
[08:52] <RichEd> Burgundavia: need to think about the organisations active in that commercial segment 3-7
[08:52] <Burgundavia> I know there are a bunch of US foundations dedicated to education
[08:53] <RichEd> who needs kids of 3-7 to think they are hip ... or who needs parents of kids 3-7 to think they are intersted in their kids ...
[08:54] <RichEd> go with an anti-violence pitch message ?
[08:54] <Burgundavia> sure, happy cooperation
[08:55] <RichEd> so what about groups like "mothers against play-station violence" guessing there is such a sort of lobby
[08:55] <RichEd> :)
[08:55] <jsgotangco> hmm i guess you dont own a console at home heh
[08:56] <RichEd> ogra / mdz / rodarvus : we on for meeting in 5 min ?
[08:57] <RichEd> Burgundavia: last suggestion ... the group who do music censorship & video ratings ? (just bouncing in some ideas from left field)
[08:58] <Burgundavia> hmm, not likely to extract money from them
[08:58] <Burgundavia> I would like money with as few strings as possible
[09:01] <cbx33> RichEd, i was just gonna ask if you managed to read my mail?
[09:01] <RichEd> on the list - major mail pass after my meeting this morning 
[09:02] <cbx33> np
[09:02] <cbx33> will hopefully get the revised spreadsheet to you later today
[09:05] <cbx33> right I'm off to work now guys
[09:05] <cbx33> see ya later
[09:05] <RichEd> cheers cbx33 have agood one
[09:06] <RichEd> ogra / mdz / rodarvus : ignore my last comment ... approached UTC from the wrong direction ... see you in 4 hours
[09:47] <Burgundavia> http://www.humanart.cz/grafika-30-oskar-a-jeho-pratele.html
[09:48] <jsgotangco> thats nice
[09:49] <Burgundavia> that is the guy who I hope to create this kids stuff with
[12:32] <cgbx33> ogra: http://progbox.co.uk/attempt4.mp3
[12:32] <cgbx33> freaky imp laugh at the end to be replaced with something more innocent :p
[12:45] <mdz> RichEd: hmm?
[12:46] <RichEd> mdz: ermmm ?
[12:46] <ogra_> hmm ?
[12:46] <ogra_> (just to join the choir)
[12:46] <mdz> RichEd: you spoke to me twice about a meeting
[12:47] <RichEd> yes ... 11:00 UTC ?
[12:47] <ogra_> in 10 mins 
[12:47] <RichEd> we agreed #canonical-meeting ?
[12:47] <mdz> I don't remember discussing a meeting at this time
[12:47] <mdz> it's 4am here
[12:47] <ogra_> heavy thunderstorms here and i had random power outages already this morning ... might be that i'm offline occasionally
[12:48] <RichEd> when would suit you (both) ?
[12:48] <rodarvus> RichEd, meeting in 12 minutes, right?
[12:48] <rodarvus> oh, ogra just mentioned it, sorry
[12:49] <ogra_> RichEd, but since rodarvus is nearer to mdz i guess some time in our late afternoon evening woud wuit them best
[12:49] <ogra_> suit
[12:49] <rodarvus> yes, quite likely
[12:49] <mdz> something agreed upon in advance would work for me
[12:49] <mdz> what's the subject of the meeting?
[12:50] <RichEd> a brief intro chat about education direction before i see mark & janeS next week
[12:50] <RichEd> things you would like to to table or discuss with them
[12:50] <RichEd> me to <- to to 
[12:51] <RichEd> the main points being (1) to relieve you of work / tasks by me adding bandwith
[12:52] <RichEd> and (2) how we work towards the same goals - do we have a regular education core meeting & do you need or want to be involved
[12:54] <rodarvus> I'll be right back (need to reboot urgently)
[01:09] <RichEd> mdz / ogra / rodarvus : apologies for the confusion then but i was under the impression that 11:00 UTC today was suggested
[01:10] <RichEd> mdz / ogra / rodarvus : would it be better to send an email with suggestions and questions asking for comment response ...
[01:10] <mdz> RichEd: yes
[01:10] <mdz> I'm only awake due to jetlag and plan to go back to sleep shortly
[01:11] <RichEd> okay ... i'll get something to you all for comment over the weekend ... can we possible fit in 30 min chat on monday / tuesday ?
[01:12] <ogra> monday might be bad for me ... 
[01:13] <ogra> (depending on my speed in moving)
[01:15] <RichEd> okay let's leave it open for tuesday some time ... i fly at 17h00 UTC ... so if we can't fit with mdz then we'll discuss his emal response between the 3 of us ?
[01:15] <cgbx33> ogra: did you hear attempt4?
[01:16] <ogra> cgbx33, nope ....
[01:16] <ogra> where does the g in your nick stand for ? 
[01:16] <cgbx33> i dont know
[01:16] <ogra> heh
[01:16] <cgbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/attempt4.mp3
[01:17] <ogra> sounds evlish
[01:17] <cgbx33> yeh
[01:17] <ogra> like a giggling granny
[01:17] <cgbx33> it's gonna be replaced
[01:17] <cgbx33> oi....I'm no granny
[01:17] <cgbx33> it's just to see what it sounds like with a laugh
[01:18] <ogra> i'd have a human element all over the sound, not only in the last 5 millisecs ...
[01:18] <cgbx33> ok
[01:18] <ogra> fade in some playing laughing childs in the first third
[01:18] <cgbx33> ok
[01:19] <rodarvus> RichEd, agreed
[01:20] <ogra> RichEd, yep, fine with me
[01:20] <ogra> i *should* be done with moving on monday though ... i just cant promise it
[01:20] <cgbx33> now I just need to find some children
[01:20] <RichEd> okay ... non-meeting closed ... moving it to email ... resume threads on monday
[01:20] <ogra> go to a public swimming pool
[01:20] <RichEd> ogra: no need to stress ... tue is fine
[01:21] <cgbx33> and take my laptop in there? :p
[01:21] <ogra> sure
[01:21] <ogra> or a tape 
[01:22] <ogra> (i dont mean you should swim with it :P)
[01:22] <RichEd> it 'prolly will be best to present mdz with options for quick review & comment ... we should make internal suggestions first and see what is supported, modified, or shot down ;)
[01:22] <RichEd> all for now ... back to task list for me
[01:23] <cgbx33> ogra: i must have gotten the wrong idea :p
[03:05] <jsgotangco> hey kids
[03:07] <ogra_> now you are really edubuntu ! :)
[03:08] <rodarvus> :)
[03:08] <rodarvus> it was time to finally upload it ;)
[03:08] <rodarvus> I didn't knew much about germinate before
[03:09] <ogra_> yep, -desktop just got uninstalled here
[03:09] <rodarvus> amazing how germinate+seeds work wonderfully
[03:09] <ogra_> yup
[03:09] <ogra_> its just taking a ton of diskspace for all these files ... it could really need some options if you want only cheack a small thing ...
[03:09] <rodarvus> it is really a piece of cake - no manual work required, and even debian/changelog is filled for you
[03:10] <ogra_> (i mean germinate standalone here)
[03:10] <rodarvus> jsgotangco, hi there
[03:11] <ogra_> btw Xorg crashes in intresting ways if you use fglrx 
[03:11] <jsgotangco> bom dia rodarvus como esta?
[03:11] <ogra_> i had a ton of errors from the synaptics driver about unresolved symbols 
[03:12] <ogra_> (no indication at all about fglrx being at fault )
[03:12] <ogra_> so expect some intresting bugreports from ati users :)
[03:12] <jsgotangco> Accepted:
[03:12] <jsgotangco>  OK: edubuntu-meta_1.4.dsc
[03:12] <rodarvus> opa
[03:13] <jsgotangco> Changed-By: Rodrigo Parra Novo <rodarvus@ubuntu.com>
[03:13] <rodarvus> jsgotangco aprendeu portugus - que legal!
[03:13] <rodarvus> ogra_, fglrx was not updated yet, actually
[03:13] <ogra> nope
[03:14] <rodarvus> ogra, which unresolved symbols you got on synaptics?
[03:14] <ogra> i had to switch to ati ... but the errors didnt indicate any probs with fglrx
[03:14] <rodarvus> you're not the first person to tell me this, but I've seen no bug report yet
[03:14] <jsgotangco> rodarvus: Eu estou aprendendo
[03:14] <ogra> damned ... i'll have to switch back to fglrx to check that ...
[03:14] <ogra> i have no log saved here 
[03:15] <ogra> but it should be reproducable
[03:15] <rodarvus> jsgotangco, cool :)
[03:15] <rodarvus> ogra, appreciated!
[03:16] <ogra> brb
[03:22] <ogra> rodarvus, bug 54357 for you
[03:22] <rodarvus> ogra, thanks so much!
[03:22] <ogra> i kept the whole log (and noticed an error from fglrx this time as well) in case you need it
[03:23] <rodarvus> hmm
[03:23] <rodarvus> it looks like this bug is somehow related to the -fstack-protector flag of gss-ssp
[03:23] <bddebian> Hello
[03:24] <ogra> in any case its not fglrx related, i see it in the log of the running server as well
[03:25] <rodarvus> yup
[03:25] <rodarvus> surely not fglrx related
[03:25] <rodarvus> I have just asked on #ubuntu-toolchain
[03:26] <rodarvus> it seems to me that this bug is due to -fstack-protection flag added recently
[03:26] <ogra> yup
[03:26] <ogra> you can add -fno-stack-protection to the build opts to work around it
[03:28] <rodarvus> yup, just want to make sure this is really the case
[03:28] <rodarvus> (and indeed, it really seems to be)
[04:32] <DanielC> Yay! Someone just advocated my package in Revu!
[04:32] <DanielC> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2806
[04:33] <DanielC> I just need one more advocate... :)
[04:36] <mhz_work> congrats DanielC ;)
[04:36] <DanielC> :)
[04:50] <rodarvus> DanielC, actually, it seems you already have two advocates.
[04:51] <bddebian> DanielC: You have 2 advocates
[04:53] <DanielC> yeah, it happened just a minute ago.
[04:53] <DanielC> YYEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!1
[04:53] <DanielC> I'm happy.
[04:53] <DanielC> I'm in Universe baby!
[04:54] <DanielC> This weekend I'll make a package for the writer guide. Now that I've made all the mistakes with my first package, this second one should go in more smoothly.
[04:55] <jsgotangco> hey
[04:55] <jsgotangco> congrats
[04:55] <DanielC> :D
[04:56] <mhz_work> *\o/*
[05:41] <jsgotangco> good night
[06:37] <cbx33> ogra, the sounds I'm making
[06:37] <cbx33> are you intending for them to be edubuntu specific?
[06:37] <cbx33> hi LaserJock 
[06:39] <LaserJock> hi cbx33 
[06:39] <cbx33> howz you?
[06:39] <cbx33> everything going ok?
[06:40] <LaserJock> I guess
[06:40] <LaserJock> hard to say this early in the day for me :-)
[06:40] <cbx33> hehe
[08:01] <DanielC> Does anyone know how long it takes for packages.ubuntu.com to be updated?
[08:01] <DanielC> I want to show all my friends that I have a package in Universe :)
[08:01] <LaserJock> hehe
[08:01] <LaserJock> it'll take a while
[08:02] <DanielC> ok
[08:02] <LaserJock> the build farm is backed up
[08:02] <LaserJock> some stuff is behind a week or so
[08:02] <DanielC> a week!
[08:02] <LaserJock> but it seems to be picking up
[08:04] <DanielC> On Revu, what do those pictures mean? My package went from having a lightbulb and a hammer to having a lightbulb and a heart.
[08:04] <LaserJock> yep
[08:04] <LaserJock> that means it's been approved
[08:04] <DanielC> I guess that the hammer means "work in progress" and the heart means "accepted" but what's the lightbulb?
[08:04] <LaserJock> just hold your mouse on the icon and it will give you a little message
[08:05] <DanielC> new
[08:05] <DanielC> thanks
[08:06] <DanielC> I just uploaded a package for the Writer guide. It's almost identical to the one that just got approved, so I hope this one will go through smoothly.
[08:08] <LaserJock> I would think so
[08:08] <DanielC> :)
[08:21] <DanielC> LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2809
[08:22] <DanielC> Writer guide in Revu.
[08:33] <cbx33> DanielC, I'm still waiting for my pacakge to get in :p
[08:33] <LaserJock> DanielC: oh yeah, your package is probably still in NEW
[08:34] <cbx33> LaserJock, why is mine not got the "approved" heart
[08:34] <crimsun> which package?
[08:35] <crimsun> (or packages)
[08:35] <LaserJock> hmm, probably because I didn't archive it
[08:35] <cbx33> heheh thanks LaserJock 
[08:45] <rodarvus> DanielC, first your package must be accepted into the archive
[08:45] <rodarvus> as two of the three persons that usually do this are not here for the next few days
[08:45] <DanielC> rodarvus: I don't understand, isn't that what happened today?
[08:45] <rodarvus> DanielC, your package was accepted into ubuntu
[08:45] <rodarvus> but it is new for the publishing system
[08:46] <DanielC> ok...
[08:46] <rodarvus> the publishing system (called Soyuz) knows nothing about revu.tauware.de, I think
[08:46] <DanielC> ah
[08:46] <rodarvus> I believe revu is of a more political nature
[08:46] <DanielC> so it's not another "approval" stage, it's just an infrastructural thing?
[08:47] <rodarvus> exactly.
[08:47] <DanielC> great :)
[08:47] <rodarvus> if revu was implemented inside LaunchPad, this would be automatic
[08:47] <rodarvus> (or could be, even)
[08:47] <DanielC> and I guess that's a goal for the future.
[08:47] <rodarvus> yeah, probably
[08:48] <rodarvus> DanielC, your package will be reviewed again, by an ubuntu-archive member (they are very talented and experienced people)
[08:48] <DanielC> ok
[08:49] <Amaranth> anyone got an example of how to make my daemon run as it's own user?
[08:49] <rodarvus> but as it was already reviewed by a few people on revu, its probably ok
[08:49] <Amaranth> i stole the user creation stuff from cups, just need to know how to make it run as that user
[08:50] <Burgwork> rodarvus, revu v3 is going to be integrated into LP
[08:50] <Amaranth> maybe i should ask in #ubuntu-motu :)
[09:08] <LaserJock> Burgwork: revu v3? we don't even have revu2 yet :-)
[09:10] <LaserJock> revu is sort of like a prereview to get stuff sponsored by MOTU, it still has to go through all the same stuff afterword (i.e. NEW processing for new packages) that any other packages has to
[09:45] <LaserJock> ogra: I'll have to admin, edubuntu-dynamic-menus has got me stumped right now
[09:45] <DanielC> admint? :)
[09:45] <DanielC> admit
[09:45] <LaserJock> admit
[09:45] <LaserJock> bah
[09:45] <DanielC> spelling is over-rated :)
[09:46] <LaserJock> umm, yeah. Don't tell that to the doc team people who have to correct my stuff
[09:47] <DanielC> :)
[09:47] <ogra> just use xchat with libsexy :)
[09:47] <ogra> it does spell checking on the input field :)
[09:48] <LaserJock> yeah, that's the only thing I don't like about irssi really
[09:48] <DanielC> is it really called libsexy?
[09:48] <LaserJock> yeah
[09:48] <DanielC> he he he
[09:48] <ogra> i tgoes fine together with liboobs :P
[09:56] <Burgwork> x-g uses that already
[09:59] <ogra> x-g ?
[10:00] <Burgwork> xchat-gnome
[10:00] <ogra> xchat as well since edgy started
[10:00] <ogra> :)