[12:09] <h3sp4wn> mount -o remount,ro / first and you should be ok
[12:09] <dlisner> cn smeone help me install a driver for my wirleess lan card?
[12:09] <Agios> h3sp4wn: he's gone :)
[12:09] <Agios> save you a few keystrokes :)
[12:10] <dlisner> someone last night told me i could use the windows driver for it using a utility i downloaded called dissomething
[12:10] <Kr4t05> !tell dlisner about ndiswrapper
[12:10] <Kr4t05> !ndiswrapper
[12:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:10] <dlisner> yeah ndiswrapper is what it was
[12:10] <Kr4t05> Read the WifiDocs
[12:11] <ubuntun00b> hello, how can i browse my other hard disk drive?
[12:11] <Kr4t05> That's the only way you're going to learn/
[12:11] <thygrrr> crap, please help me. of course I broke the symbolic link in /usr/bin/java and now I can't get it to work anymore.
[12:11] <thygrrr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-07-28 00:10 java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[12:11] <thygrrr> but that's dead. it's also red and not cyan
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> dlisner: You probably want ndiswrapper 1.21 (especially if you are on 64 bit)
[12:11] <Kr4t05> ubuntun00b: fstab
[12:11] <Agios> thygrrr: delete your symbolic link you created
[12:11] <thygrrr> Agios: Ok, and then?
[12:12] <dlisner> i'm not on 64bit but i downloaded the ndiswrapper utility last night
[12:12] <Agios> update-alternatives --auto java
[12:12] <Agios> that should set it back to the default
[12:12] <cotroler> what was the command to uninstall a program in wine pls???
[12:12] <thygrrr> Agios, thanks, that did it. I really don't get it though, what's the difference in links there? :)
[12:12] <ubuntun00b> I have two hard drives, but i can't see my other hardrive
[12:12] <z00m> anyone know perl in here ?
[12:12] <cotroler> what was the command to uninstall a program in wine pls???
[12:13] <dlisner> unfortunately my crd is an intel and acquiring the driver required a lot of manual building of files and downlaoding more stuff
[12:13] <Agios> thygrrr: I don't really know. I've only looked at it briefly.
[12:13] <dlisner> the problem is my net is soooo slow on kubuntu becuase of the poor default driver
[12:13] <jesspher> does anybody here have an extra internal hard drive that they would like to give away
[12:13] <z00m> what pack do i need to download for Can't locate Pex/Text.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
[12:13] <dlisner> someone in here said i could use the windows driver which i just found this morning
[12:13] <Agios> thygrrr: but I think the install option will do what you want.
[12:13] <thygrrr> Agios, okay, but now if I try "java -version", it says "Too many levels of symbolic links"
[12:14] <Agios> thygrrr: it still says that after the --auto?
[12:14] <thygrrr> Well.
[12:14] <dlisner> i mounted my windows drive and then put my mp3's on kaffeine but it won't play
[12:14] <dlisner> it has the  correct track info and length
[12:14] <ubuntun00b> i have an internal hard drive that i can't access
[12:14] <dlisner> but it just skips right through them all
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> My dad tried to install a printer on a brand new install yesterday, but the Add Printer dialogue ended with a message of "Unable to load ___ driver".  His printer was in the list and detected and he had entered administrator mode, so what might have been the problem?  (It's an HP Deskjet 3650 I think)
[12:15] <thygrrr> Agios, no, but it'll be broken once I use update-alternatives --install to add my own.
[12:15] <cotroler> Any one knows a good but simple to install torrent client??????
[12:15] <Agios> thygrrr: try it and see. perhaps not
[12:16] <dlisner> contorler i think one  is already present
[12:16] <thygrrr> Agios, sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/java 1
[12:16] <z00m> cotroler: ktorrent
[12:16] <Agios> bittorrent-gui I suppose
[12:16] <z00m> is under internet on menu
[12:16] <thygrrr> Agios, this breaks it. It's also not idempotent. I can then use config, but I can't use config again.
[12:16] <cotroler> z00m: i didnt find ktorrent good cause if i completed my downloads it doesnt let me seed them
[12:17] <Agios> hmmm
[12:17] <z00m> ah right
[12:17] <z00m> i know a good one for windows and it runs on java so it may work on linux
[12:17] <Agios> thygrrr: is any part of /usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin/java a symbolic link?
[12:17] <cotroler> z00m: is there anything that can be modified in ktorrent to let completed files seeding?
[12:17] <ubuntun00b> i just installed kubuntu and i can't access my second hard drive, i can see it when i type fdisk -l but how do i mount it and browse the files
[12:18] <z00m> azusus
[12:18] <z00m> errm
[12:18] <Agios> ubuntu: see if it's already mounted under /media
[12:18] <cotroler> azureus you mean?
[12:19] <cotroler> z00m: is it good and easy to install?
[12:19] <thygrrr> Agios: LOL Okay. whatever I did there, I probably got tricked by my link antics. /usr/local/jdk160/bin/java points to /etc/alternatives/java
[12:19] <z00m> azureus
[12:20] <z00m> cotroler: its called azureus
[12:20] <cotroler> z00m: yeah k got it tnx..is it easy to install?
[12:20] <z00m> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[12:20] <cotroler> tnx
[12:20] <z00m> yeah it sets up NAT and everthing if you have a router
[12:20] <z00m> plus makes sure the port is working fine
[12:21] <cotroler> :)
[12:21] <Agios> thygrrr: that would be a problem :)
[12:21] <z00m> there is a setup wizard
[12:21] <z00m> can anyone help me with a perl problem ?
[12:21] <cotroler> ubuntun00b: you have to mount your hard drive to access that
[12:21] <z00m> what package do i need for pex/Text.pm
[12:22] <z00m> i looked for pex but nothing in apt-get
[12:22] <thygrrr> Agios, I wonder how that happened :) I just unpacked sun's jdk again and now it's fine. Thanks so much for you help!
[12:22] <Agios> thygrrr: glad you got it working :)
[12:22] <Agios> my car is dead 10 miles form here, guess I'll go see if I can get it running
[12:27] <thygrrr> Good luck!
[12:30] <thygrrr> Hm, exlipse is still disappointingly slow.
[12:30] <thygrrr> Eclipse, even.
[12:30] <thygrrr> Any good IDEs for java you can recommend for running under KDE?
[12:31] <thygrrr> Most important feature is responsiveness and a reliable class browser & tool tips/autocomplete
[12:31] <Rodrigo23> algum brasileiro ?
[12:31] <Rodrigo23> hablas spanol ?
[12:32] <angasule> !joystick
[12:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about joystick - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !Eclipse
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about Eclipse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:33] <BluesKaj> thygrrr, what's eclipse ?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> factoids tells me nothing
[12:34] <thygrrr> BluesKaj, see Eclipse.org - it's an awesome IDE for Java and other languages. It's very fast in windows, but apparently the GTK+ bindings for their swt libraries are really crappy.
[12:35] <cotroler> Whats the delete command in kubuntu pls?
[12:35] <thygrrr> It feels like Eclipse 2 on a 1 GHz machine.
[12:35] <Ignite_> cotroler, to delete what?
[12:36] <Ignite_> cotroler, a file?
[12:36] <cotroler> a direcotory
[12:36] <cotroler> *directory
[12:36] <Ignite_> gui or konsole?
[12:36] <cotroler> konsole
[12:36] <Ignite_> rmdir <dir>
[12:36] <Ignite_> or, if its got files in, rm -r <dir>
[12:37] <cotroler> tnx :)
[12:37] <Ignite_> np :)
[12:37] <imandir> hi ;-) I'm trying to install libqt3-mt-dev on kubuntu...
[12:37] <BluesKaj> the best thing to do is find the prog in the menu list, edit item, edit in konq, delete , then save
[12:37] <Ignite_> imandir, having problems?
[12:38] <Ignite_> imandir, or just need a pointer in the right direction?
[12:38] <angasule> I have an analog joystick (2 axes, 2 buttons) connected to the soundcard (a soundblaster live), is there an automated way of getting it to work, or should I do it manually? (with modprobe, etc, and add an init script)
[12:38] <imandir> yep, it's asking for many packages to be installed
[12:38] <imandir> and there's problem with libxfixes-dev
[12:38] <Ignite_> imandir, what errors are you getting?
[12:38] <angasule> I also have a USB HID-compliant joystick, but that can wait :)
[12:39] <imandir> which asking for libxfixes3
[12:39] <Ignite_> imandir, how are you installing the package? via the command line?
[12:39] <imandir> this package is already installed
[12:39] <imandir> I've tried with synaptic
[12:40] <ubuntumac> anyone here know how to install ubuntu on an intel Mac?
[12:40] <Ignite_> imandir, have you tried running "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev" in konsole?
[12:40] <kameronk> ubuntumac, there is a wiki for it
[12:40] <kameronk> google it.
[12:41] <ubuntumac> yea, I'm looking at it, but it assumes you're an advanced linux user
[12:41] <kameronk> i believe that the easiest way to do it is to install bootcamp
[12:41] <kameronk> and install it that way
[12:42] <imandir> that's what I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19054
[12:42] <ubuntumac> Yea, I'm doing that. But its asking me to mount the root drive to /mnt I've no idea how to do that
[12:43] <imandir> libxcursor-dev asking for libxfixes-dev
[12:43] <angasule> brb
[12:43] <Ignite_> imandir, sounds to me like you don't have the required repos, use http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to create a new /etc/apt/sources.list file, you can then copy that new file over /etc/apt/sources.list then run sudo apt-get update, then you should be able to install it :)
[12:44] <imandir> and libxfixes-dev for libxfixes3 with is already installed (1:4.0) but it wants older version = 1:3.0.1.2-0ubuntu3
[12:45] <Ignite_> oh i see
[12:45] <Ignite_> oh thats not good.. maybe this is a bug
[12:45] <Ignite_> which version are you using?
[12:45] <Ignite_> of kubuntu i mean
[12:45] <BluesKaj> ubuntumac, have you partitioned the drive  to accept linux ext & swap ?
[12:45] <imandir> well, I've already clean my sources.list
[12:45] <ubuntumac> yes
[12:46] <imandir> and maybe I've comentet one line more, than I should
[12:46] <Ignite_> imandir, would you mind showing me the file?
[12:46] <imandir> well kubuntu 6.06
[12:46] <imandir> np
[12:46] <BluesKaj> is OSX listed in one partition and ext and swap as other partitions ?
[12:46] <Ignite_> ok :)
[12:46] <ubuntumac> Yes
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ubuntumac, then it should be safe to install kubuntu on the partitions other than OSX. Make sure when the formatting question is asked that OSX is NOT checked
[12:48] <kameronk> could someone help me with this error i get from launching GUI programs from the command line?
[12:49] <imandir> my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19055
[12:49] <ubuntumac> BluesKaj, I have to install it a certain way. Its telling me to mount the root drive to /mnt and then drag all the files, except a certain three or four, to the drive.
[12:50] <kameronk> it says: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[12:50] <imandir> maybe there's simpler solution... what I'm trying to do is to comple qpxtool
[12:51] <BluesKaj> oooh... ubuntumac, never seen that situation before , sorry i have no experience with that  :(
[12:51] <imandir> I saw ready package, but it's for Edgy...
[12:51] <ubuntumac> :( thanks anyway, I'll keep trying to figure this out
[12:51] <Ignite_> imandir, try uncommenting the backports repo (one at the very bottom)
[12:51] <imandir> np
[12:52] <Ignite_> imandir, one just above the bottom one infact :P
[12:52] <BluesKaj> never heard of dragging files to a pertition in an install procedure
[12:52] <Ignite_> imandir, oh wait
[12:52] <Ignite_> imandir, your running dapper right?
[12:52] <imandir> yes
[12:52] <Ignite_> it looks like you have breezy repos in there
[12:53] <BluesKaj> uncommenting is taking away the # infront of the repos url ?
[12:53] <imandir> really ? I've never spoted that
[12:53] <Ignite_> imandir, ah, i see, the backports repo is a dapper one, one second, i will get you the correct line to add
[12:53] <Ignite_> isn't*
[12:53] <Ignite_> ugh, i'm tired, that should have been "imandir, ah, i see, the backports repo is a breezy one, one second, i will get you the correct line to add"
[12:53] <Ignite_> sorrt :P
[12:53] <Ignite_> sorry*
[12:54] <imandir> well, it's rather late here as well ;-)
[12:54] <Ignite_> hehe
[12:54] <Ignite_> your country code is pl right?
[12:55] <imandir> I don't know why I'm trying to play with linux over night
[12:55] <Ignite_> just need to make sure i get you the fastest mirror :)
[12:55] <imandir> well, geographicly uk to be exac
[12:55] <Ignite_> ok
[12:57] <imandir> right... I've started with polish ubuntu forum and first lines are from there... then I completly forgot to change that ;-)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> oops polski ogorki and anglo bango don't mix :)
[12:58] <Ignite_> hrm, well, tbh i have a very nice sources.list which i always use, i'm also from the UK, so i can give it you if you like? i've never had _any_ problems with it, almost every package you can think of is included :)
[12:59] <imandir> with pleasure
[12:59] <Ignite_> ok cool, one second :)
[01:00] <imandir> well, polski ogorki are good with everything ;-)))
[01:00] <BluesKaj> hehe imandir, agreed :)
[01:00] <suliman> hi
[01:01] <BluesKaj> hi suliman
[01:02] <suliman> i  have broblem with login in root user ? i forget password what i do ?
[01:03] <Ignite_> imandir, http://pastecode.com/2093
[01:03] <Ignite_> imandir, i added a comment to the bottom of there, just a few commands to run, if you don't apt will complain about not having gpg signatures to verify the packages
[01:04] <imandir> cool, thank you, give ma a sec to overwrite my list
[01:04] <Ignite_> imandir, also, use the "download" link to get the file, if you try to copy/paste it will include a load of hashes which i find annoying.. :P
[01:05] <Ignite_> http://pastecode.com/?dl=2093 <-= download link.. (i have a lot of spare time)
[01:05] <Ignite_> :P
[01:06] <imandir> first one was ok
[01:07] <Ignite_> after you have copied over the file and run those few commands in the comments, just do "exit" to become your normal user again, then "sudo apt-get update" and try installing that package again :)
[01:07] <raytray25> If I autostart Kontact, shouldn't it autostart the RSS?
[01:07] <Ignite_> hrm, kontact has rss support? :O
[01:08] <imandir> I was thinking why "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" with " Run Command is not working...  it's really late ;)
[01:08] <raytray25> yes.
[01:08] <Ignite_> imandir, lol
[01:08] <Ignite_> imandir, try "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:09] <angasule> ok, I've made the analog joystick work, but it's ugly to have to create init.d scripts, is there an automated way?
[01:09] <imandir> Yep, I know that
[01:09] <Ignite_> angasule, K menu -> system settings -> Joystick
[01:10] <angasule> Ignite_: it said there was no /dev/js0 or /dev/input/js0
[01:10] <Ignite_> angasule, ah, sorry i can't be anymore help than that, i don't have a joystick
[01:10] <Ignite_> yet
[01:10] <Ignite_> :P
[01:11] <angasule> Ignite_: well, I had to use mknod to create the device, then modprobe a couple of modules, it's friggin' ugly, I can't tell people to do that
[01:11] <Ignite_> angasule, maybe you could tell some of the people in #kubuntu-devel? maybe that could be sorted out for edgy :D
[01:11] <angasule> I haven't tried plugging the USB HID joystick yet, hopefully that'd be less trouble
[01:12] <angasule> ok, I'm there and I'll whine in their general direction :)
[01:12] <Ignite_> :D
[01:13] <Ignite_> imandir, everything going to plan?
[01:14] <imandir> well, one pgp key missing, which is not a problem, but Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2
[01:14] <imandir> Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[01:15] <cotroler> I realized i got NO SOUND in flash player ...what can i do?
[01:15] <imandir> one sec... maybe it's uncommented line form my old list...
[01:15] <cotroler> I realized i got NO SOUND in flash player ...what can i do?] 
[01:16] <Ignite_> imandir, just move your old list to some other place, then copy the new one in its place, save it and run those few commands listed at the bottom of the file, after that you should be good to go :)
[01:17] <imandir> anyway, thank you very much for your time... I have to wake up quite early tommorow
[01:17] <imandir> well, but I'm messy person...
[01:17] <imandir> ;-)
[01:17] <angasule> Ignite_: #kubuntu-devel is usually dead, right? they'll eventually read the messages?
[01:17] <Ignite_> imandir, ok, i'm on most of the time so if you ever need any help just give me a shout :)
[01:18] <Ignite_> angasule, i only started going on there today, someone will no doubtably read it :)
[01:18] <imandir> good night everyone
[01:18] <Ignite_> night imandir
[01:27] <ubuntun00b> i'm getting this error when i try to mount my other hard drive mount: can't find /dev/hde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:28] <kmimix> does anyone know a way to add an "ignore list" to adept updater?
[01:28] <ubuntun00b> anyone know how to mount a hard drive?
[01:30] <kmimix> ubuntun00b: if you type media:/ in konqueror, it should list it there
[01:30] <Ignite_> err
[01:30] <Ignite_> "hde"?
[01:30] <ubuntun00b> hde1
[01:31] <Ignite_> hrm
[01:31] <Ignite_> what command are you running?
[01:31] <Ignite_> are you telling it where to mount it?
[01:31] <flaccid_> don't you hate it when you thought you had a cup of coffee...
[01:31] <Ignite_> lol
[01:32] <ubuntun00b> i'm using kubuntu i just installed it, so i'm using the default terminal program and i'm logged in as root
[01:32] <Ignite_> your logged in as root?
[01:32] <ubuntun00b> in the terminal i typed sudo -i
[01:33] <ubuntun00b> so i'm in the terminal as root
[01:33] <ubuntun00b> and i type mount /dev/hde1
[01:33] <kmimix> how come you know how to "sudo -i" and can't mount a drive?
[01:33] <ubuntun00b> but i get mount: can't find /dev/hde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:33] <kmimix> sorry, can't help it
[01:33] <Ignite_> ah, i thought you had set a root password for a second, was about to give you a lecture :P
[01:33] <agamotto> Anyone willing to help someone try to figure out the 'no sound' dilemma?
[01:34] <Ignite_> ubuntulog, mount -t <filesystem> <device> <location>
[01:34] <Ignite_> err
[01:34] <Ignite_> ubuntun00b*
[01:34] <ubuntun00b> i read some FAQ sites to learn about sudo -i
[01:34] <Ignite_> night all
[01:35] <ubuntun00b> whats a good location? what do u normally use?
[01:38] <ubuntun00b> ok how do i know if its mounted?
[01:39] <merk_> hey guys, can anyone point me in the right direction to a support page
[01:39] <shiv> how do i know what kernal am i using from command line?
[01:39] <coachJ> can someone please tell me how to share files with samba?
[01:42] <BluesKaj> merk_, this a support chat , of sorts :)
[01:42] <agamotto> One would hope!
[01:42] <agamotto> hehheheeh
[01:42] <BluesKaj> there's usually a few " experts" hanging around
[01:43] <merk_> yay
[01:43] <merk_> ok
[01:43] <merk_> I'm new to this so excuse my green'ness
[01:43] <merk_> I'm confused about the root access, the sudo thingy.  I'm trying to run adept to install some stuff but it wont let me in using my password
[01:44] <coachJ> can someone please tell me how to share files with samba?
[01:46] <yogi> I am having trouble w/XMMS going south on me... quits responding to the point that I have to kill the process.  Happens w/o warning.
[01:48] <yogi>  I am having trouble w/XMMS going south on me... quits responding to the point that I have to kill the process.  Happens w/o warning.
[01:50] <BluesKaj> yogi , you could try uninstalling rebooting and reinstalling ...sometimes that helps
[01:51] <admiral_proFTW> merk_, perhaps something else is running sudo and that messes up adept
[01:51] <admiral_proFTW> yogi, try sudo dpkg -configure xmms
[01:51] <agamotto> admiral_proFTW:  Wouldn't running top in a shell help find that?
[01:52] <admiral_proFTW> agamotto, the sudo thing?
[01:52] <agamotto> Nah, running top
[01:52] <admiral_proFTW> pstree would work in a terminal
[01:52] <agamotto> Oh, duh!! yes
[01:52] <agamotto> Lost the thread for a moment
[01:52] <admiral_proFTW> i'm not sure what this top thing is
[01:52] <admiral_proFTW> !top
[01:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about top - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:53] <agamotto> Ahh, never mind.  A util of mine, pstree is essentially the same
[01:53] <admiral_proFTW> coachJ, all Linux systems?
[01:53] <iskate> My amarok crashes all the time, any suggestions?
[01:53] <Erlang> Is it known that kdelibs-bin and kdelibs4c2a are stuck because of libcupsys2?
[01:53] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, at any specific point?
[01:53] <coachJ> ok i went and installed the samba server
[01:53] <merk_> admirl, thanks - that's spot on
[01:54] <OOD> iskate: remove amarok settingss and update to the newest version
[01:54] <coachJ> but it doesnt show on my xp machine yet
[01:54] <admiral_proFTW> merk_, np
[01:54] <coachJ> how do join my windows workgroup
[01:55] <iskate> OOD: remove ~/.kde/.../amarok?
[01:55] <agamotto> I wish I could help, but amarok has never worked for me...
[01:55] <OOD> iskate: yeah, and update to the newest version (1.4.1)
[01:55] <iskate> OOD, my amarok is 1.3.9, you mean 1.4.1 is required?
[01:56] <admiral_proFTW> run the command....kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[01:56] <admiral_proFTW> coachJ, run that
[01:56] <agamotto> Much like my recent experiment with trying an AMD64 AM2 machine
[01:56] <OOD> no, but i think it's likely that what's making amarok crash for you could be fixed in hte newer version
[01:56] <coachJ> what will that do?
[01:56] <iskate> OOD, Ok, thanks, I'll try
[01:57] <admiral_proFTW> configure samba
[01:57] <cotroler> !python
[01:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about python - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:57] <cotroler> How do install python pls??
[01:57] <OOD> iskate: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[01:58] <agamotto> cotroler:  sudo apt-get python, or run synaptic/adept, search then click
[01:58] <iskate> OOD, what if 1.4.1 is not included in ubuntu sources?
[01:58] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, you make the key
[01:58] <admiral_proFTW> then you add the deb line to your sources.list
[01:58] <OOD> it's not, that's why i gave you that link
[01:58] <agamotto> Hmmm, that is wierd...
[01:58] <iskate> OOD, OK, I saw your web site
[01:59] <admiral_proFTW> coachJ, that help?
[01:59] <iskate> admiral_proFTW, What?
[02:00] <iskate> what key?
[02:00] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, open up knosole
[02:00] <coachJ> yes i, looking at it now
[02:00] <coachJ> do i need to creat an account for the remote machine
[02:00] <admiral_proFTW> copy and paste the two lines in there
[02:00] <iskate> OK,
[02:00] <admiral_proFTW> yea
[02:00] <OOD> they're 2 seperate lines, so copy each one seperately
[02:01] <admiral_proFTW> with the same sign in name as the windows log in
[02:01] <iskate> which 2 lines?
[02:01] <OOD> the grey ones at the link i gave you
[02:01] <coachJ> ok
[02:01] <admiral_proFTW> " wget http:...."
[02:01] <admiral_proFTW> thats the first one
[02:02] <admiral_proFTW> the second one is under it
[02:02] <iskate> OK, :)
[02:02] <iskate> are you the same one as OOD?
[02:02] <OOD> what?
[02:03] <iskate> I am confused, 'cause OOD gave me the link, and admiral_proFTW told me to run it
[02:03] <OOD> *sigh*
[02:03] <OOD> go to the link
[02:03] <OOD> at the link there are 2 grey lines
[02:03] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, just copy and paste the two lines
[02:04] <OOD> copy each one into konsole and run them
[02:04] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, by run, he means hit enter after each line
[02:04] <iskate> OK, I know how to handle it, thank you so much. But I am going to work in a minute, so I'll try when I come back
[02:05] <OOD> you sure? you were already half done it all right there
[02:05] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, all you have to do after that is copy the deb line into sources.list
[02:05] <iskate> I'll bookmark the link:)
[02:05] <admiral_proFTW> type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:05] <admiral_proFTW> and paste it at the bottom
[02:06] <admiral_proFTW> then apt-get update & dist-upgrade
[02:07] <iskate> so, three steps, download gpg, add it, and upgrade, right?
[02:07] <bbt> how do i use gdm instead of kdm
[02:07] <admiral_proFTW> yea
[02:08] <admiral_proFTW> bbt, on kubuntu?
[02:08] <bbt> yea
[02:08] <iskate> I'll do it right now:)
[02:08] <admiral_proFTW> !gdm
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about gdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:08] <admiral_proFTW> !kdm
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <OOD> bbt: you mean the login screen, or the actual graphic environment?
[02:09] <admiral_proFTW> huh, well. bbt I don't even know
[02:09] <bbt> OOD: login
[02:11] <iskate> admiral_proFTW, the deb command is also run under the console, right?
[02:11] <OOD> bbt: give this a try: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Display_Manager:_Switch_Between_GDM_and_KDM
[02:11] <iskate> It temporarily change the source, right?
[02:11] <admiral_proFTW> iskate, no
[02:11] <admiral_proFTW> open up konsole, and type sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:11] <iskate> or? add it to sources.list?
[02:12] <OOD> add it
[02:12] <admiral_proFTW> sudo nano
[02:12] <admiral_proFTW> add it to the end
[02:12] <iskate> ok, i know
[02:12] <coachJ> admiral_protFTW: how long will take to populate the network?
[02:13] <admiral_proFTW> coachJ, no idea, depends on the system/network
[02:13] <coachJ> i see why it not showing the change I made to the workgroup is not sticking
[02:14] <juan> Hello everyone!
[02:14] <admiral_proFTW> coachJ, what do you mean
[02:15] <OOD> hi
[02:15] <iskate> upgrading, thanks admiral & OOD
[02:15] <OOD> iskate: np :)
[02:15] <coachJ> i changed the default workfruop name to match the name of my workgroup
[02:15] <coachJ> but it hasent changed
[02:16] <admiral_proFTW> what hasnt changed
[02:17] <juan> maybe someone could help me..
[02:17] <juan> I need yp know how to disable the webcam in Kopete
[02:17] <Buzz_Litebeer> one last question of the night...  how do you add shoutcast and such to the streams in Amarok properly
[02:18] <Buzz_Litebeer>  or whats a good station with metal and things to add to amarok?
[02:21] <Buzz_Litebeer> nvm
[02:21] <Buzz_Litebeer> sorted
[02:23] <admiral_proFTW> coachJ, talk to you in a bit
[02:24] <coachJ> k
[02:24] <coachJ> thks
[02:25] <Lunar_Raven> ok this is weird, i'm having a problem with adept.  It's saying it's only in read only mode because something else is using it..
[02:25] <Lunar_Raven> but i've rebooted twice
[02:25] <Lunar_Raven> o.O
[02:25] <BluesKaj> somehow I've ended up with 3 differnt sources lists in kate , but i can't delete the ones I don't need...any suggestions?
[02:28] <BluesKaj> ok , i figured it out , with rm cmd
[02:34] <juan> I need some help please!!!!!!!!
[02:34] <Kyral> !help
[02:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:34] <Kyral> ....
[02:34] <Kyral> !ask
[02:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:34] <RandomDude15> I'm having issues with avidemux.
[02:35] <juan> what should I do to disable the webcam in Kopete?
[02:35] <RandomDude15> I need some help here.
[02:35] <RandomDude15> with avidemux.
[02:35] <RandomDude15> i cant get it to read some finished mpeg2 files....
[02:35] <Kyral> Now you are asumming I actually know the answer to your problem
[02:36] <juan> yes :)
[02:36] <raytray25> juan, wouldn't a simple, don't plug it in work? or is there something I'm missing?
[02:37] <juan> the problem is that I dont have a webcam! Kopete thinks that my video capture card is actually a webcam!!
[02:37] <raytray25> Ah.
[02:38] <juan> and everyone wants to see me :))
[02:38] <RandomDude15> you fuckers are no help at all.
[02:38] <raytray25> juan have you tried right clicking kopete and clicking devices? and doing anything there?
[02:38] <raytray25> err right click kopete and click configure.
[02:39] <juan> I tried that but there isn't a way to disable that
[02:39] <juan> maybe Im using an older version?
[02:39] <juan> Its 0.11.1
[02:40] <raytray25> you arn't.
[02:41] <juan> where did you right clicked?
[02:41] <Jack1> i cannot install a superkaramba theme as liquid weather cause when i download the theme just kate opens the binary file which cant be saved
[02:41] <Jack1> having the latest version of superkaramba
[02:42] <raytray25> Juan, ignore me, I thought I saw something I didn't. xP
[02:42] <juan> ok :)
[02:42] <admiral_proFTW> Jack1, just download it and save it on your computer
[02:42] <DaSkreech> Riddell: He does that often?
[02:42] <Jack1> it doesnt
[02:43] <Jack1> it dowloads and opens kate which should save the file then
[02:43] <Jack1> but it cannot be saved
[02:43] <Riddell> DaSkreech: twice today
[02:43] <DaSkreech> Jack1: what does it tell you?
[02:43] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Good move
[02:44] <Jack1> warning: this is a binary file saving it will result in corrupt file or sth similar
[02:44] <Jack1>  warning: this is a binary file saving it will result in corrupt file or sth similar DaSkreech
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Jack1: does it look garbled in kate?
[02:44] <raytray25> right click the link to download and click save as. if there is such an option Jack1
  well yes millions of strange signs
[02:46] <obf213> this is getting a bit rediculous
[02:46] <DaSkreech> Jack1: What's the URL that you got it from?
[02:47] <obf213> it took about 15minutes for this to recognize my etherent
[02:47] <obf213> and my wlanassistnat says that the connection failed but then it shows im connected to a network and it will say are you sure you want to disconnect, but when i open firfox or this it cant connect
[02:48] <obf213> so my wireless and my ethernet dont work at times
[02:48] <Jack1> www.kde-look.org that theme points and leads to www.liquid weather orr meteo or sth .the theme is called liquidweather
[02:49] <obf213> anybody have any idea why this is going one, also kwirelessassitant keeps crashing
[02:49] <obf213> until yesterday night wireless and ethernet worked perfectly
[02:50] <admiral_proFTW> obf213,  do a sudo dpkg -configure <package>
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Just right click and select Save Link as
[02:51] <obf213> dpkg  my wireless lan
[02:52] <obf213> it even took forever to recognize my ethernet
[02:53] <admiral_proFTW> !wireless
[02:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:54] <obf213> thanks admiral but i dont need any of that, as the system recognized my wireless card and finds my homenetwork but jsut wont connect
[02:54] <intelikey> oh yeah,  i got a refresher course on why i don't like amarok;  clicking the [x]  close button only puts it in 'task bar mode' which i won't tolerate....   so it got removed from the system again.
[02:54] <obf213> everything set up itself and till ysterday it would just connect
[02:55] <intelikey> that makes three times i have seen amarok run now.   and i'm no closer to liking it than i was the first time.
[02:56] <obf213> am i still here
[02:56] <obf213> am i still here
[02:56] <admiral_proFTW> intelikey, you can change that
[02:56] <admiral_proFTW> quit easily
[02:56] <obf213> intellikey i think im going to need your help
[02:56] <helfrez> yeah lol
[02:56] <DaSkreech> intelikey: then don't install it :-P
[02:56] <BioticPro> What is the easiest way to make a single custom audio cd mix of songs from multiple cds?
[02:56] <intelikey> admiral_proFTW i did.  i removed it.  :)
[02:56] <DaSkreech> BioticPro: Manually
[02:56] <helfrez> BioticPro: amarok hehe
[02:56] <helfrez> addem to playlist and burn playlist
[02:57] <intelikey> DaSkreech don't install kubuntu ?    yeah i been leaning that way....
[02:57] <obf213> intelikey i think img going to need your help
[02:57] <helfrez> inteliky loves it
[02:57] <obf213> i have my wifi on right now, and wirelesslanassisant says i am connected to my home network
[02:58] <obf213> if i unplug my ethernet, then i just lose all my signal
[02:58] <BioticPro> DaSkreech: can ya be more specific?
[02:59] <DaSkreech> BioticPro: Well I guess you know the songs that you want to burn?
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[02:59] <BioticPro> DaSkreech: yes
[02:59] <intelikey> obf213 i'd like to help on that, but i'm about network illiterate.  sorry.
[02:59] <DaSkreech> BioticPro: Ok Put in the cds and make a folder to hold the songs
[02:59] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[03:00] <DaSkreech> Then just drag the song that you want from the WAV folder on the Cd to the Temp Folder
[03:00] <DaSkreech> Then burn them in k3b
[03:01] <BioticPro> DaSkreech: ok, maybe that was the problem, I did this before in konq, and dragged the songs from the cda folder, then k3b said unsupported format when I tried to burn
[03:01] <DaSkreech> BioticPro: Heehee no I think Wav is a better and faster way to go
[03:01] <intelikey> ok doing a 'make' in the base dir of the kernel source ends without error.   that means that it built ok,  correct ?
[03:02] <DaSkreech> That means the makefile is made
[03:03] <BioticPro> DaSkreech: k3b would not even use the cda files... don't know why
[03:04] <DaSkreech> BioticPro: cause k3b is stuck up ;-)
[03:04] <BioticPro> hehe
[03:04] <obf213> alright
[03:04] <obf213> its just sucks how it used to work then five minutes later it would and has been like that for almost a day
[03:05] <BluesKaj> !Amarok
[03:05] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[03:06] <intelikey> make modules_install  ended with this;
[03:06] <intelikey> if [ -r System.map -a -x /sbin/depmod ] ; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map  2.6.15.7-ubuntu126; fi
[03:06] <intelikey> is that normal ?
[03:07] <BioticPro> helfrez: what you described with Amarok, that works with multiple cds?
[03:08] <helfrez> BioticPro: sure, just rip all the cds u want to ur hd the make a playlist with all the songs you want and then burn the playlist
[03:09] <BioticPro> helfrez: ok, that basically the same thing then as using konq to copy the wavs and k3b to burn, just different way
[03:10] <intelikey> well first reboot in days.    time to test new kernel build.
[03:11] <raytray25> Is there a way in konqueror to disable what it does when I middle click or press ctrl once?
[03:11] <helfrez> BioticPro: yeah just saves u a step cause amarok does it all
[03:12] <helfrez> raytray25: check your keyboard shorcuts
[03:12] <admiral_proFTW> raytray25, look at configure shortcuts
[03:12] <helfrez> raytray25: and configure desktop for mouse clicks
[03:13] <raytray25> Theres nothing listed for just ctrl. in konqueror.
[03:14] <helfrez> maybe we mis understood the question then what are you trying to do or prevent
[03:15] <raytray25> press ctrl in konqeror gives a bunch of small yellow letters in a box as shortcut keys.
[03:15] <raytray25> as for middle click, I meant when you do it in konqueror.
[03:16] <helfrez> oh u meant just per app, nah i dont think thats possible, to change mouse controls and keystrokes JUSt in konqueror
[03:16] <helfrez> i could be wrong though, just not something anyone has every wanted to do lol
[03:17] <raytray25> I just find it annoying ot have middle click paste what you have in clipboard into addressbar.
[03:17] <raytray25> xP
[03:18] <helfrez> u might be able to change it in the klipper config
[03:19] <raytray25> The option's not there, as I see that is.
[03:20] <raytray25> And... last question for today... is there a way to configure katapult?
[03:20] <sophie_> hello all any kde guru here
[03:21] <sophie_> I have problem with utf8 file name not showing properly
[03:22] <obf213> ive had to terminate more programs in a shorter amount of time than i ever did in windows
[03:22] <obf213> is ther somethign im missing?
[03:22] <helfrez> raytray25: katapult --help-qt
[03:23] <raytray25> thanks.
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> raytray25: When you open the window, press Ctrl+C. That brins you to it's configuration page.
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> I take that back. It brings you to a menu where you can get to it's configuration page.
[03:23] <helfrez> --help gives u other options there is a help-kde
[03:23] <obf213> maybe a restart is the remedy
[03:24] <helfrez> raytray25: not a trememdous number of options because the app is pretty simple in what it does lol
[03:24] <raytray25> Ah, What I was looking for was a way to change the access key.
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> raytray25: OK, go to the 'Configure Global Shortcuts' option in the menu.
[03:25] <dewbie> hmm
[03:28] <intelikey> new kernel paniced with the strangest error   "d: out of memory "
[03:30] <intelikey> selected himem suport to off  only options were  off  4g  and  above 4g   only having 128m i figured off was propper setting ?
[03:31] <crimsun> yeah, with 128 MB it doesn't much matter.
[03:31] <crimsun> by default you'd hit the non-highmem at 896 MB.
[03:31] <intelikey> but it looked like the frame buffering was going to work.  that was the reason for compiling
[03:32] <intelikey> crimsun did you look into the missing arch/k* subdirs in the kernel source ?
[03:33] <crimsun> intelikey: no, I'm pretty busy with an abstract atm; I'll attempt to look (but probably won't have time)
[03:34] <DaSkreech> !frostwire > daskreech
[03:34] <sophie_> I have problem with utf8 file name not showing properly
[03:34] <intelikey> crimsun it's not a big deal really.  ix86 will work.  but seeing that make menuconfig  lists k[6,7]  i thought it strange that the source was missing  or seemed to me to be missing.
[03:35] <obf213> any ideas to why play can find cddb but audio creater cant and they search the same website
[03:37] <BluesKaj> !sources-list
[03:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about sources-list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:38] <BluesKaj> !sources list
[03:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:38] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[03:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:39] <intelikey> i added a few more options in the build and running make again  with himem set to 4g   although that probably wont help the  'd: out of memory '   message...     anyways i'll let it make a new one, and try it.     looks like the default kernel is only about 300k smaller than my custom one with built in scsi ext#fs and frame buffering     oh and my sound cards drivers.
[03:41] <intelikey> oh i also put all the networking modules in that i use.   so modprobe will be vertually useless on this system.   (assuming i get it to boot)
[03:41] <intelikey> and no initr*.img needed either.
[03:42] <intelikey> @ip70-171-63-240.ga.at.cox.net
[03:43] <intelikey> gnomefreek  struck by thunder ?
[03:45] <obf213> wow this thing has gotten slow
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Anyone have any idea why nothing I type turns up on the konsole?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: does it turn up anywhere?  ie, keyboard working?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah it's fine everywhere
[03:59] <DaSkreech> And when I type in the command line the commands go in
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Pressing enter gives the desired effect
[03:59] <DaSkreech> I just can't see what I type
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Pressing up or down I can't see what is on the line
[03:59] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ah.  weird.
[04:00] <DaSkreech> Tell me about it
[04:03] <Erlang> DaSkreech: have you played with your Konsole config?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Nope
[04:04] <DaSkreech> I just Ctrl-C'ed out of a program and then after that I kept losing letters till now I can't see anything
[04:04] <Erlang> Have you tried erasing your Konsole config file?
[04:06] <obf213> anyone knwo a better cd ripper than audio creater which crashes every five minutes
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble with KPPP.  I can connect with wvdial, but KPPP says "The remote system is required to authenticate itself, but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.  (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)"  What does this mean?
[04:11] <Agios> that rumor had been going around
[04:11] <lnxkde> lol
[04:12] <lnxkde> na I just took a shower 3 hrs ago :)
[04:12] <Agios> hehe j/k
[04:12] <lnxkde> I dont smell like last night :P
[04:13] <lnxkde> DaSkreech : do you shower daily :?
[04:13] <lnxkde> :p
[04:14] <will> !limewire
[04:14] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:14] <will> you heard him, what's better.  Frost wire or limewire?
[04:14] <lnxkde> never used Frost wire...
[04:15] <lnxkde> but I like frozen things more than lime ones...
[04:15] <Agios> dunno, I don't do p2p except an occassional bt for a linux cd
[04:15] <will> Frost wire it is =  \
[04:15] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: If at all possible :)
[04:15] <lnxkde> :D
[04:18] <will> How do I open a .deb, sudo dpkg?
[04:18] <abattoir> will: install? 'sudo dpkg -i name.deb'
[04:18] <Kyral> sudo dpkg -i <path to file>
[04:19] <will> Oh I forgot to set my nick
[04:19] <||Trayer||> =  \
[04:21] <||Trayer||> how do I download http://www.peercommons.com/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb?
[04:21] <||Trayer||> Without the questionmark at the end
[04:22] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: open in konqueror, doesnt that bring up a 'Save as' dialog?
[04:22] <abattoir> else you can right click on the file and Download as...
[04:23] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Nope, it opens the binary in kate
[04:23] <abattoir> or if neither work use 'wget <linktodeb>'
[04:23] <||Trayer||> I'll just use that
[04:23] <||Trayer||> 200 kb a sec
[04:23] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: that'd download the the deb to the current working dir.
[04:23] <||Trayer||> home = \
[04:25] <||Trayer||> what's the command to rename a file?
[04:25] <abattoir> 'mv oldname newname'
[04:25] <||Trayer||> thanks
[04:32] <Dasnipa`> hmm
[04:33] <BioticPro> Anyone here try new Mepis 6?  How is it different from kubuntu?
[04:34] <B_> Hi can someone help me with compiling a short quick and dirty wget script???
[04:34] <||Trayer||> o_O nothing is as good as kubuntu, we are uber ; ).  And I'm sure someone can help.  ask your question
[04:35] <B_> i wanna compile this short wget script from http://metasploit.com/research/misc/mwsearch/bin/mwdownload.rb but i have never compiled on linux before so can someone give me some pointers
[04:36] <abattoir> B_: seems to be a ruby file
[04:36] <Erlang> which you can't compile...
[04:36] <abattoir> B_: you can either do 'ruby pathtofile.rb'
[04:36] <||Trayer||> first wget then that location to get the ruby I'm assuming?
[04:36] <abattoir> B_: or directly execute it...
[04:37] <abattoir> B_: make sure you  have ruby installed though
[04:37] <abattoir> !info ruby
[04:37] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[04:37] <B_> ok let me load adept
[04:37] <B_> crap in on windows
[04:37] <B_> ahhahahaa
[04:37] <abattoir> "Quick and dirty wget downloader for Google Malware'
[04:38] <||Trayer||> google makes malware = \?
[04:38] <||Trayer||> I did a wget for frostwire
[04:38] <B_> no
[04:38] <B_> google indexeslive malware
[04:38] <B_> brb i gotta restart and load kubuntu then load adept
[04:38] <B_> brb
[04:41] <b_> k back and loading adept
[04:42] <BioticPro> Is there a way to burn .cda files on the HD to an audio cd using k3b?  Or other program?
[04:42] <b_> but yeah whoever was asking about google malware yes they index malware and HDM has created a search engine, go to google.com and query malware search
[04:43] <b_> !ruby
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ruby - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:44] <abattoir> nixternal: i saw that un update for ati drivers had been made, does X work now in edgy for you?
[04:44] <abattoir> *an update
[04:44] <nixternal> yes abattoir, everything is good!!!
[04:44] <abattoir> nixternal: good, i'll wait for my driver to be fixed then, thanks :)
[04:45] <b_> ! ruby
[04:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ruby - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:45] <b_> what was the program again
[04:45] <abattoir> !info ruby
[04:45] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[04:46] <abattoir> b_: 'sudo apt-get install ruby'
[04:46] <b_> nice thank you
[04:46] <abattoir> b_: or if adept is your preferred method, just search for ruby :P
[04:47] <driz> !dvd players
[04:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvd players - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:47] <driz> !DVD
[04:47] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:47] <b_> lol i did but i was presented with lots of packages and i was loking for ruby interpreter specificly
[04:52] <wckdkl0wn> anyone know why ktorrent stalls at like 2 minutes left on a download but will continue to upload?
[04:52] <BioticPro> what program to use to rip cda files on the HD to wav files?
[04:59] <b_> how do i install google api  on linux
[05:00] <b_> it comes as a zip and all it tells me to do is extract arc
[05:00] <obf213> hey i need network help big time
[05:00] <obf213> starting today its been impossible to for me to get a connection
[05:01] <obf213> i plug in my etherntet straight from the modem and i had to wait forever literaly about 9minutes to get online
[05:01] <obf213> the hardware on the computer showed it was connected and was beeping but kubuntu wouldnt log on
[05:01] <b_> lol i am having lots of problems with mozilla.com rightnow i cannot accsess it while others can
[05:02] <obf213> i can't log on to any wireless networks even though i can fid them and i have the correct passcode
[05:02] <obf213> i plugged my ethernet in and it didnt even recognize it until i went to network settings and just opened it,didnt even change anything, then all of a sudden the irc connected.
[05:02] <b_> could that have something to do with a poor signal
[05:02] <obf213> no
[05:02] <obf213> my wifi is detecting the signal and it is very strong
[05:02] <obf213> being as i am right next to the router
[05:03] <b_> weird
[05:03] <obf213> and it even took forever to get online using wired ethernet
[05:03] <obf213> straight from the modem
[05:03] <obf213> whihc im doing right now
[05:03] <b_> hey are you able to accsess mozilla.com rightnow?
[05:03] <obf213> the hardware detects it but it kubuntu does seem to want towork
[05:03] <obf213> ill try
[05:03] <b_> thnx
[05:03] <obf213> yes
[05:04] <b_> crappy, i ran a traceroute to mozilla and im able to trace but when tryng to  load in opera, or any browser, it does not connect
[05:05] <b_> i wonder if nwtools did a trace from their server to mozilla rather then myt computer to mozilla
[05:05] <obf213> im just wondering wht the problem with my computer is
[05:05] <obf213> last night it worked, i just turned it off and today it doesnt
[05:05] <obf213> something like wired ethernet should be recognized immediately
[05:08] <bLaZeD> does anyone know how to set up mldonkey?....
[05:09] <obf213> any experts  out there have an idea of what my problem is
[05:11] <Kr4t05> obf213: try ifconfig
[05:11] <obf213> ifconfig
[05:11] <obf213> ok before i try that though
[05:11] <obf213> i just unplugged my ethernet right
[05:11] <Kr4t05> obf213: paste that to a pastebin and tell me the URL.
[05:11] <obf213> but the widget i had continued to show that it was connected with the ip adress
[05:12] <obf213> kr405 alright
[05:12] <Kr4t05> obf213: plug in your cables and turn on all routers and modems.
[05:12] <obf213> yeah i am coming straight from the modem and my wifi is on
[05:12] <obf213> and it finds networks
[05:12] <obf213> even the the widgets says the its disconnected and it never actually connects to a network
[05:13] <Kr4t05> obf213: does the Kubuntu box use a wired connection?
[05:13] <Kr4t05> obf213: Wait....
[05:13] <Kr4t05> obf213: What type of connection do you have?
[05:13] <obf213> dsl
[05:13] <Kr4t05> obf213: broadband? Ok
[05:13] <obf213> yes
[05:13] <Kr4t05> obf213: You have a router?
[05:14] <Kr4t05> obf213: first things first, give me the output from ifconfig
[05:14] <obf213> Kr4t05 http://pastebin.ca/103100
[05:15] <Kr4t05> Okay...
[05:15] <obf213> eth1 is the wireless
[05:15] <Kr4t05> obf213: Open your System Settings.
[05:15] <obf213> check
[05:15] <Kr4t05> obf213: Network Settings
[05:15] <Mixuxo> j metal
[05:16] <Kr4t05> obf213: Click the button labelled "Administrator Mode"
[05:16] <obf213> ok its in
[05:16] <Kr4t05> And click eth0
[05:16] <Kr4t05> obf213: Configure Interface
[05:17] <obf213> ok
[05:17] <obf213> its set on automatic
[05:17] <Kr4t05> obf213: Click the radio button labeled Manual
[05:17] <obf213> it has the ip adress in there right now
[05:17] <Kr4t05> obf213: Ok, scratch that.
[05:17] <Kr4t05> obf213: Advanced Settings
[05:17] <obf213> k
[05:18] <Kr4t05> obf213: The field labelled Gateway, at the very bottom.
[05:18] <obf213> i have to click manual t get to advanced though
[05:18] <Kr4t05> obf213: Ok, leave it at manual, then
[05:18] <obf213> arlight im at gateway
[05:18] <Kr4t05> obf213: Does the wired connection use any other machine to get to the internet?
[05:18] <Kr4t05> obf213: Router, DNS server?
[05:19] <obf213> no its straight out of the modem
[05:19] <Kr4t05> obf213: or just the DSL modem?
[05:19] <obf213> just the dsl modem
[05:19] <obf213> dsl does the home pna thing
[05:19] <Kr4t05> obf213: OK... Try putting 192.168.1.1 for Gateway
[05:20] <obf213> ok
[05:20] <obf213> so will this help kubuntu detect my internet when i plug i n the ethernet
[05:20] <Kr4t05> obf213: Click Ok, back to Network Interfaces Dialog.
[05:20] <Kr4t05> obf213: Plug it in now.
[05:20] <Kr4t05> ><
[05:21] <obf213> its already plugged in
[05:21] <Kr4t05> obf213: Disable eth1
[05:21] <obf213> the ethernet is already plugged in
[05:21] <Kr4t05> obf213: Disable eth1 and make sure eth0 is enabled.
[05:21] <Kr4t05> Ok?
[05:22] <Kr4t05> obf213: I know the ethernet is plugged in, just follow me for a second.
[05:22] <Kr4t05> obf213: Now, go to the "Routes" tab.
[05:23] <Kr4t05> obf213: Make sure the Default Gateway is the same as before: 192.168.1.1
[05:23] <Kovecses> I just installed kubuntu for the first time! I am not new to linux but new to ubuntu can someone point me to the fglrx documentation and also how to get the 686 kernel?
[05:23] <Kr4t05> obf213: Also, make sure eth0 is selected in the drop-down menu.
[05:26] <Kovecses> no one? ok I will poke around
[05:26] <Kr4t05> obf213: still with me?
[05:27] <timi> hey are you still ther Kr405
[05:27] <Kr4t05> timi: Eh?
[05:27] <timi> i did everything you said ai lost my connect, lol, thats my fault i dont think i was clear with with what the problem was
[05:27] <timi> but i did notice something
[05:28] <timi> i did everything you said right
[05:28] <timi> disabled the eth1, which is the wireless connection
[05:28] <Kr4t05> timi: yeah
[05:28] <Kr4t05> timi: Okay...
[05:28] <timi> but i can still search wireless networks
[05:28] <Kr4t05> timi: Hrm.
[05:28] <Kr4t05> timi: Do you have a connection via eth1?
[05:28] <timi> it says im connected to a wireless netowrk.
[05:28] <timi> but if i unplug this ethernet cable i will lose connection
[05:29] <timi> it doesnt make any sense
[05:29] <Kr4t05> timi: Life doesn't make sense.
[05:29] <Kr4t05> Try the WifiDocs, that might point you in the right direction.
[05:29] <timi> !Wifi >timi
[05:29] <Kr4t05> timi: this isn't a laptop, isn't it?
[05:29] <timi> it is a laptop
[05:29] <Kr4t05> Ah...
[05:29] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[05:30] <Kr4t05> Not that great with laps.
[05:30] <timi> and everything yoused to work w/o me doing anything
[05:30] <timi> then today it just doesnt work
[05:30] <timi> i never had to even use the ethernet
[05:30] <Kr4t05> Try the liveCD, if it works with the LiveCD, I would suggest a clean reinstall, (After backing up all sensitive info, of course.
[05:30] <Kr4t05> )
[05:31] <timi> after about 40hrs of just getting it set up.........
[05:31] <timi> ill just go back to windows before i do that.
[05:33] <Kr4t05> timi: Hrm...
[05:33] <timi> Kr4t05 thanks for your help though!
[05:33] <Kr4t05> timi: Yeah, sorry I couldn't be more help.
[05:34] <Kr4t05> I should recommend that.
[05:34] <root__> gfjfj
[05:34] <Kovecses> brb gotta reboot
[05:40] <Nauxer> hi
[05:40] <Nauxer> anyone uses kxmame?
[05:41] <Kr4t05> OMG...
[05:42] <Kr4t05> The chip I bought last summer is now at half the price I paid.
[05:43] <Kovecses> is java-package the recomended way to set up java? like in debian?
[05:44] <angasule> you think that's bad? the chip I bought about 3 years ago is like one hundreth the price I paid
[05:47] <Kovecses> that was easy.... sun java is in multiverse
[05:47] <Kovecses> w00t
[05:49] <obf213> if i disconnect my ethernet cable, the system shouldnt have an ip address listed under that interface correct?
[05:52] <marcus__> obf213: right
[05:53] <digibre4k_> hallo........
[05:54] <digibre4k_> i need help!!!
[05:54] <Healot> digibre4k_: i don't :)
[05:54] <Healot> !ask
[05:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:55] <intelikey> why am i getting this error ?  "svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions."  as user but not as root.  there is no information in the error that points me to which file/device might have bad perms set ????
[05:55] <digibre4k_> i cant use my printer ip 1600 in xandros
[05:56] <digibre4k_> solution please....!!!!!!!!
[05:56] <digibre4k_> hallowww...........
[05:56] <dr_willis> digibre4k_,  whats the printer?
[05:57] <digibre4k_> canon ip1600
[05:57] <dr_willis> Check the Cups.org site - some canon printers got no support.. some have  limited support.. some are supported in that comercial cups variant.
[05:58] <digibre4k_> so.....???
[05:58] <dr_willis> so go to cups.org and look your printer
[05:58] <digibre4k_> what the solution,fren????
[05:58] <digibre4k_> where????
[05:58] <dr_willis> http://cups.org
[05:59] <digibre4k_> thank u....
[05:59] <dr_willis> for the 3rd time. :P
[05:59] <intelikey> :)
[05:59] <intelikey> (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize 'system' core!
[05:59] <intelikey>     --> Not supported!
[05:59] <intelikey> svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.
[05:59] <intelikey> what is causing that ^  ???
[05:59] <intelikey> i own everything in /dev
[06:00] <dr_willis> or a hit on google shows   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76448.html
[06:02] <dr_willis> and it dont look good for your printer.. what i am reading.
[06:03] <intelikey> hmm disreguard the first two lines of the error root gets them also but goes on and works... so they are irrelivent.  " svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions. "  is the error.
[06:04] <digibre4k_> nothing..!!!
[06:04] <intelikey> why can't svgalib get I/O permissions for users on this system ?   <-- that's the question.
[06:05] <digibre4k_> i cant find this driver....!!!!!!!
[06:05] <dr_willis> turboprint MAY support that printer.. it seems to be an alternative to the cups drivers
[06:05] <digibre4k_> my english is not good...!:)
[06:05] <dr_willis> and im in the exact same spot with my Canon ip6600 printer.. its a nice printer.. but no standard linux support.
[06:06] <dr_willis> http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[06:07] <dr_willis> So for me - in the future - i dont think i will buy any canon printers any more.
[06:08] <digibre4k_> yup....
[06:08] <digibre4k_> thanks again.Ok!!!
[06:15] <marcus__> digibre4k_: Hiya.
[06:16] <obf213> hey anybody around
[06:16] <jesspher> does anybody here know any games that comes on the cd and ready to be installed on linux?
[06:16] <obf213> marcus_ are you pretty good with this stuff
[06:16] <marcus__> obf213: Depends on what it is?
[06:17] <obf213> built in wireless, it recognizes it, it finds networks but it wont connect
[06:17] <obf213> i took screenshots of everything for anyoen that can help
[06:17] <marcus__> obf213: how did you install it and what type of card is it?
[06:18] <obf213> i didnt install it, its integrated into my laptop
[06:18] <obf213> i can show you all my info
[06:18] <marcus__> what is your laptop?
[06:18] <obf213> i took screenshots of it, it used to work, ive only had linux for about 4 days
[06:18] <obf213> a dell e1405
[06:18] <obf213> and 3/4 days it worked fine except today
[06:18] <marcus__> obf213: i have a dell 1300
[06:19] <marcus__> obf213: probably the same card.
[06:19] <marcus__> obf213: i dunno though just a sec let me check on it.
[06:19] <obf213> nice, when i first turned it one, wireless assitant was there, and it found my network and i logged on, it still does that except it wont log on, or it will says its connected and nothing will happen
[06:19] <marcus__> obf213: let me check something real quick okay.
[06:20] <obf213> ok
[06:22] <marcus__> what is the card> Is it a dell 1470?
[06:23] <marcus__> obf213: im not really confident in the built in broadcm drivers in ubuntu
[06:24] <obf213> hrrm marcus let me show you the pictures
[06:26] <marcus__> okay. just a sec
[06:28] <marcus__> hmmmm interesting but since you are using native drivers not unexpected
[06:30] <obf213> hey abattoir join #obf213
[06:31] <marcus__> obf213: still interesting. is your wep correct (silly question i know)
[06:31] <obf213> yeah
[06:31] <obf213> its written on the bottom of the modem plus ive used it a hundred times
[06:31] <obf213> did you see the picture that shows i was connected
[06:31] <marcus__> Yes.
[06:32] <marcus__> obf213: That is what makes it so interesting.
[06:32] <marcus__> obf213: So it just stopped?
[06:32] <obf213> i have it all in #obf213 for anyone who wants to  check it out
[06:33] <obf213> last night i helped someoe set up there computer over at my house
[06:33] <marcus__> obf213: did you change anything on your computer?
[06:33] <obf213> just taught her how to download and got her a firewall and soem stuff, she got on my network and i got on as well
[06:33] <obf213> no.
[06:34] <marcus__> Okay, so it was working last night
[06:34] <obf213> then after that i showed her like amaroK on my computer, turned it off and went  downstairs, where i got no connection
[06:34] <obf213> yes
[06:34] <obf213> figured maybe it was because i was downstairs even though signall was 100% and that wa sthe place i normally use it
[06:34] <obf213> then today its like problem after problem
[06:34] <marcus__> thats just weird
[06:34] <obf213> marcus did you also not in the picture of the widge
[06:34] <obf213> that it said the the eth0 was connected and had an ip address
[06:35] <marcus__> no i missed one. it didnt load.
[06:35] <marcus__> i saw that one
[06:35] <obf213> that was after the ethernet had been unplugged
[06:35] <obf213> for about 15 minutes
[06:35] <obf213> and it still said connected and had an ip address
[06:35] <marcus__> did you try to reboot the computer?
[06:35] <obf213> yes many times
[06:36] <obf213> abbattoir did you figure out anything from the pictures
[06:36] <marcus__> obf213: type iwconfig in konsole and paste it on pastebin for me would ya?
[06:36] <obf213> ok
[06:37] <marcus__> remember to send me the pastebin link too please?
[06:37] <obf213> i already have a photo of iwconifg but ill do it in the paste bin if you want
[06:37] <Healot> pastebin.com
[06:37] <marcus__> i would rather see it in pastebin. thanks.
[06:38] <obf213> http://pastebin.ca/103178
[06:39] <marcus__> obf213: apparently you are losing packets....
[06:40] <marcus__> somewhere...
[06:40] <obf213> if i unplug this ethernt then i lose my connection
[06:40] <obf213> strangley the only times it seems to be able to "connect" to my wireless network is when i have the ethernet pluggedin
[06:40] <obf213> and i didnt even change any seetings
[06:41] <marcus__> http://pastebin.ca/103183
[06:42] <marcus__> obf213: everything in yours is about the same as mine except your misc colomn which shows 968 or so. thats the problem I think.
[06:43] <marcus__> obf213: i still cant help but wonder if it's a driver issue.
[06:43] <Kovecses> none of you guys know what you are talking about
[06:43] <marcus__> Kovecses: really?
[06:44] <Kovecses> yup
[06:44] <obf213> mmk well figure it out then
[06:44] <marcus__> Kovecses: can you fix the problem? if so dive right in please?
[06:45] <Kovecses> read the docs
[06:45] <Kovecses> its all their
[06:45] <Kovecses> there
[06:45] <Kovecses> would you like me to dig up the link?
[06:45] <marcus__> Kovecses: thanks. :)
[06:45] <marcus__> up to obf213
[06:46] <Kovecses> you guys should really experiment with other distros. .. ubuntu is great but it doesn't teach you anything
[06:47] <obf213> Kovecses thanks,
[06:47] <marcus__> Kovecses: i dont need another distro. im happy with this one thanks.
[06:47] <obf213> Koveceses: did you already post the link
[06:47] <Kovecses> no prob.... no i didnt post.... i guess I have to do the search in the docs
[06:48] <marcus__> good luck obf213...
[06:48] <Kovecses> lazy bastards
[06:48] <Kovecses> lol
[06:48] <marcus__> lazy?
[06:49] <Kovecses> its in the wifi docs if you looked
[06:49] <marcus__> This is a support channel.
[06:49] <Kovecses> and?
[06:49] <Kovecses> lol
[06:49] <marcus__> I was just trying to help obf213
[06:49] <chip42> fillled with volunteers.. i guess they are all lazy huh :p
[06:49] <chip42> please
[06:49] <marcus__> I don't have a problem with anything.
[06:50] <Kovecses> chip42: look at what I wrote...
[06:50] <Kovecses> chip42: I wasnt callin gthe people here lazy
[06:50] <Kovecses> just nevermind
[06:50] <Kovecses> bye
[06:51] <marcus__> okay now that that bit of drama is over
[06:51] <marcus__> obf213: still there?
[06:51] <obf213> yeah
[06:51] <obf213> !wifi
[06:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:51] <Kovecses> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[06:52] <marcus__> obf213:NM
[06:52] <Kovecses> ^^^^ thats a good one
[06:52] <obf213> ahh thank you
[06:53] <obf213> okay ill try that thanks
[06:54] <Kovecses> the script in there is good
[06:54] <Kovecses> works for most
[06:56] <Kovecses> here is another good doc if that onbe doesnt work/.... kindove a troubleshooting guide
[06:56] <Kovecses> brb gotta go to my lappy where i have it bookmarked
[06:57] <Kovecses> brb
[07:00] <obf213> im amazed at how slow ktorrent is
[07:01] <obf213> wht torrent program do most of you guys use
[07:02] <Hikaru79> Has anyone had any success with Skype 1.3 beta in KDE? I can run the 1.2 release fine, but with 1.3, I can hear audio, but the mic suddenly doesn't work anymore. I've already tried the skype_dsp_hijacker, and no luck =( Anyone have any ideas?
[07:03] <admiral_proFTW> I can't get my sound to work
[07:04] <admiral_proFTW> and I tried alsamixer and thats not the problem
[07:04] <marcus__> hikaru79: did you install over the old version by chance?
[07:05] <Hikaru79> marcus__: I apt-get remove'd the old version and the old hijacker before installing the beta, of course.
[07:05] <marcus__> Hikaru79: just thought i would ask.
[07:06] <Hikaru79> Kay =)
[07:06] <Hikaru79> Anybody else?
[07:12] <obf213> whts a good torrent to use
[07:13] <Lunar_Raven> ktorrent
[07:13] <obf213> i tryed to download somthin on this comp connected at 54Mpbs and then 15minutes later when down stairs to my old windows comp running bittorent connected at 10mbps sec and windows is ahead
[07:14] <Lunar_Raven> !ktorrent
[07:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about ktorrent - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:14] <Lunar_Raven> !azureus
[07:14] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:14] <Lunar_Raven> azureus is good too
[07:14] <obf213> alright
[07:14] <obf213> i have ktorrent btw
[07:15] <obf213> 7.8MB in 20minutes with 30+ peers lmfao
[07:18] <bbt> nothing wrong with ktorrent, so long as you open up the ports required
[07:22] <aegeanlinux> !pornography
[07:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about pornography - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:22] <kata> !fi
[07:22] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:22] <Hikaru79> LOL, aegeanlinux
[07:25] <Lunar_Raven> !penis
[07:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about penis - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:25] <Lunar_Raven> =(
[07:25] <obf213> bittornado is way betta
[07:32] <Lunar_Raven> ehh
[07:32] <Lunar_Raven> i dont like it really
[07:32] <Lunar_Raven> azureus is ok
[07:32] <Lunar_Raven> but uses java
[07:32] <Lunar_Raven> which sucks
[07:34] <obf213> yeah the gui on bittornado is way to simple
[07:35] <obf213> to the point wher eit almost makes it confusig
[07:36] <obf213> whts a proxy server
[07:38] <obf213> is divx just built in
[07:39] <obf213> b/c i dont think  i installed and some vids tht required it on windows wrk fine on ths
[07:41] <scabootssca> how do i make a link thuing in /usr/bin?
[07:41] <scabootssca> so a program in /usr/lib?
[07:42] <Lunar_Raven> sudo ln -s /link/to/filehere  /link/where/you/want/thefile
[07:42] <obf213> yeah ive been wondering how to add programs i jsut downloaded to the menu
[07:42] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[07:42] <scabootssca> i did before i cant remember how though
[07:42] <Lunar_Raven> menu you just right click it and go to edit
[07:42] <obf213> yeah i did that
[07:42] <scabootssca> you put the program in /usr/lib/
[07:42] <obf213> but for stuff in usr/bin
[07:42] <obf213> it doesnt show up
[07:42] <scabootssca> and a link to it in /usr/bun
[07:43] <scabootssca> *bun=bin
[07:43] <scabootssca> and then you can type the command from copunsle
[07:43] <scabootssca> or menu
[07:43] <scabootssca> cant remember the command to add the link though
[07:44] <obf213> yeah
[07:45] <obf213> wierd stuff ill learn
[07:45] <obf213> i think there are tutorials
[07:48] <Lunar_Raven> !xgl
[07:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:49] <test> hiya
[07:49] <Administrator> hello
[07:50] <test> i have a kde problem. Since upgrading to 3.5.3 it is running really slow. Anybody have a hint to speed it up?
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> that's odd...i'm not sure why it would, test.  Does it run slow all the time?
[07:51] <Lunar_Raven> i found 3.5.3 to be faster
[07:51] <Lunar_Raven> a bit
[07:51] <test> lunar_raven: Yes since I upgraded. Wonder if it doesn't like my 915 or something?
[07:52] <Administrator> thats possible it could be that
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> test: SCreeming usually works good ; )
[07:52] <Administrator> aegeanlinux: enough of those shananigans
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> Administrator: Sorry Sir.
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> Administrator: Never again sir.
[07:52] <Administrator> good
[07:53] <test> Lunar_Raven: Strange though. KDE says it's running at 1024x768 yet I see it at 1200x780.
[07:53] <Administrator> are you sure your seeing it at that
[07:53] <Administrator> thats a slight differencce
[07:53] <Administrator> reconfigure or x-org
[07:53] <test> administrator: it fills my whole widescreen
[07:53] <Administrator> ....it filled my whole widescreen
[07:54] <Administrator> at 1024x768
[07:54] <Administrator> and it fills it at 1440x900 the correct res
[07:54] <test> Administrator: hmmm i wonder what is going on......
[07:54] <Administrator> it is alway going to fill your screen
[07:54] <Administrator> run this
[07:54] <test> Administrator: just strange... Still KDE is slow.
[07:54] <test> Administrator: okay
[07:55] <Administrator> sudo dpkg reconfigure x-server.xorg
[07:55] <Administrator> to get the correct res
[07:56] <Administrator> test sorry
[07:56] <Administrator> its
[07:57] <Administrator> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <Administrator> RichJ, no shanigans you hear
[07:57] <Administrator> Shananigans*
[07:57] <RichJ> huh
[07:57] <Administrator> RichJ: no shananigans or your outta hear
[07:58] <Administrator> here*
[07:58] <Philip5> Hawkwind: are you there and awake?
[07:58] <RichJ> ok thank you
[07:58] <Administrator> RichJ: .....sir
[07:59] <RichJ> quit hilighting me
[07:59] <Administrator> the correct response would be quit hilighting me sir
[07:59] <RichJ> yes ma'am
[08:00] <aegeanlinux> Debetimi.
[08:00] <Administrator> wtf
[08:00] <aegeanlinux> what?
[08:00] <abattoir> timi, be careful
[08:00] <RichJ> !#kubuntu
[08:00] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:00] <abattoir> quit messing around
[08:01] <RichJ> Administrator: #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:02] <Milhouse2ndEditi> Good morning everyone!
[08:02] <test> hi Milhouse2ndEditi
[08:03] <Hikaru79> Has anyone had any success with Skype 1.3 beta in KDE? I can run the 1.2 release fine, but with 1.3, I can hear audio, but the mic suddenly doesn't work anymore. I've already tried the skype_dsp_hijacker, and no luck =( Anyone have any ideas?
[08:03] <aegeanlinux> Milhouse2ndEditi: G'day
[08:03] <test> okay my slow kde prob is fixed thanks.
[08:03] <obf213> aegeanlinux
[08:03] <aegeanlinux> Yes Timi.
[08:03] <Milhouse2ndEditi>  BRB, trying to use my real name now...
[08:03] <obf213> where'd you get that debetimi info from
[08:03] <abattoir> Milhouse2ndEditi: morning :)
[08:03] <aegeanlinux> (obf213)
[08:03] <abattoir> Hikaru79: yes, it works for me
[08:03] <RichJ> Hikaru79: go into System Settings > Sound & Multimedia, and uncheck your system sounds, shutting it off, then try skype again
[08:04] <aegeanlinux> [Whois]  obf213 is n=timi@adsl-69-151-57-245.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net (Debetimi Okah)
[08:04] <obf213> ook
[08:04] <abattoir> aegeanlinux: why did you tell him? :P
[08:04] <Hikaru79> RichJ, I'll try that right now =)
[08:04] <test> hikaru, i tried skype 1.3 and found the audio quality lacking alot. Just a personal opinion mind you.
[08:04] <aegeanlinux> I did.
[08:04] <aegeanlinux> I mean, whoops
[08:04] <aegeanlinux>  :D
[08:04] <Hikaru79> test, really? Most of the forum posts were praising 1.3 for much-improved quality...
[08:04] <RichJ> i had to do the same trick with skype that i had to do with teamspeak during UDS
[08:05] <test> richj: thanks for the tip...
[08:05] <Hikaru79> RichJ, so I should disable the sound system entirely?
[08:05] <RichJ> yes Hikaru79 just to see if that helps with the mic
[08:05] <Hikaru79> Okay, sound system is off.
[08:05] <test> Hikaru79: of course what richj said could have been my problem with the bad sound quality too.\
[08:05] <Hikaru79> Now try Skype again?
[08:05] <RichJ> also, you might want to check with kmix and make sure that you have the mic on record..and something else
[08:05] <RichJ> yes Hikaru79 , try skype now
[08:05] <Hikaru79> With or without dsp_hijacker?
[08:06] <RichJ> w/o first i guess
[08:06] <RichJ> i don't know what dsp_hijacker is..so
[08:06] <supernix> Uptime: 1 days, 3 hours and 47 minutes
[08:06] <Hikaru79> RichJ, how should the Kmix settings look? Red light on, green light off?
[08:06] <RichJ> both on
[08:06] <Hikaru79> Okay
[08:06] <Milhouse> Damn, it tells me the nick is already in use...
[08:06] <supernix> I tried using my help section and all the urls wont resolve
[08:06] <Milhouse> Who stole my identity? o_O
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> Hi Debetimi Okah
[08:07] <abattoir> Milhouse: ghost it
[08:07] <Milhouse> Huh? abattoir
[08:07] <abattoir> Milhouse: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[08:07] <Hikaru79> RichJ, still nothing =( I can hear them, but no recording happens.
[08:07] <RichJ> hmmm...what sound card do you have Hikaru79 ?
[08:08] <test> join #ubuntu
[08:08] <test> hehe
[08:08] <Hikaru79> Intel. Skype lists it as "Intel 82801BA-ICH2"
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> :D
[08:08] <Hikaru79> Keep in mind that 1.2 works, so I doubt it's the sound card's fault.
[08:08] <RichJ> hmm... Hikaru79 when you go into kmix, do you see a thing all the way to the right for ac97?
[08:09] <test> i dont have a kmix. :(
[08:09] <RichJ> hmm...im looking in the wrong area..
[08:09] <RichJ> Hikaru79: you have capture set to record as well correct?
[08:09] <Hikaru79> The capture set to record?
[08:09] <Hikaru79> Explain ^ ^;
[08:10] <RichJ> Hikaru79: under inputs you should have "Microphone" and "Capture"...make sure capture is set to red, record
[08:10] <Hikaru79> Are we talking about Kmix now?
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> (How) Can I change the log-out/shutdown screen of KDE?
[08:11] <RichJ> yes Hikaru79 , sorry for not clarifying
[08:11] <Hikaru79> At the moment, only the Mic red light is on. Capture's red light is not on. Should it be?
[08:11] <RichJ> yes, capture should be on
[08:11] <Hikaru79> =D Let's try that
[08:12] <Hikaru79> If this doesn't help, can I send you a screenshot of my kmix, perhaps there's something blindingly obvious that I'm missing ^ ^;
[08:13] <obf213> yeah paste the link here
[08:13] <Hikaru79> OMG!
[08:13] <Hikaru79> I heard something
[08:13] <Hikaru79> It's very very faint
[08:13] <RichJ> lol
[08:13] <Hikaru79> But yeah, it's there
[08:13] <RichJ> turn up the volum then
[08:13] <RichJ> crank it up
[08:13] <Hikaru79> Mic and Capture?
[08:13] <RichJ> capture and mic volume up til its perfect
[08:13] <RichJ> try capture first
[08:13] <RichJ> i crank my mic
[08:14] <Hikaru79> Thank you RichJ!
[08:14] <Hikaru79> All is well =)
[08:14] <test> yay
[08:14] <obf213> atta baby Rich
[08:14] <RichJ> good deal Hikaru79
[08:14] <RichJ> glad i could help
[08:14] <test> anybody know if xgl can run on an intel915?
[08:15] <obf213> !xgl
[08:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:15] <RichJ> make sure you make that check payable to "nixternal" and send me a receipt ;)
[08:15] <crimsun> test: ew.
[08:16] <crimsun> test: yes, it can, albeit very slowly. On the other hand, AIGLX in Edgy works like a charm.
[08:16] <Hikaru79> http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/ <--- This is you?
[08:16] <RichJ> haha ya
[08:17] <test> cimsun: on a 915?
[08:17] <RichJ> Hikaru79: i know you don't read that...how did you run acrossed it?
[08:17] <test> crimsun: I mean the edgy aiglx...
[08:18] <Hikaru79> You said to make the check payable to "nixternal" so I googled it. First hit :P
[08:18] <Hikaru79> BTW, it's in the mail ;-)
[08:18] <RichJ> lol
[08:18] <RichJ> im googleable...lovely..time to change names
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the command to remove something I installed from a .deb package?
[08:19] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: sudo apt-get remove ?
[08:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Probably not... I installed firefox 2b, I want to get rid of it again without touching firefox 1.5
[08:20] <Hikaru79> You installed 2b from a .deb?
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes
[08:21] <Hikaru79> Then it must have a different name from your 1.5 install, or else you've overwritten 1.5
[08:21] <RichJ> Hobbsee: how are you?
[08:21] <RichJ> muhahaha
[08:21] <RichJ> lol
[08:21] <RichJ> good bye
[08:21] <RichJ> hahaha
[08:21] <Hikaru79> o-o;
[08:22] <RichJ> Hobbsee: :)
[08:22] <aegeanlinux> LOL @ RichJ + Hobbsee
[08:22] <RichJ> haha
[08:22] <RichJ> she is killin me
[08:22] <RichJ> every channel i have been owned
[08:23] <aegeanlinux> He is a she ... Woops, sorry Hobbsee.
[08:23] <Hobbsee> heh.
[08:23] <RichJ> ;)
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79: I just checked again, it was a tar.gz
[08:23] <aegeanlinux> Hobbsee as on your todo list RichJ?
[08:23] <Hobbsee> aegeanlinux: huh?
[08:23] <RichJ> lol
[08:24] <aegeanlinux> [16:23]  <Hobbsee> heh.
[08:24] <aegeanlinux> [16:23]  * RichJ rips up his TODO list
[08:24] <RichJ> that one lost me as well
[08:24] <RichJ> inside joke with Hobbsee and gang ;)
[08:24] <aegeanlinux> It was a thing of the moment ;)
[08:24] <aegeanlinux> it is?
[08:24] <RichJ> ok, #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[08:24] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: ah, different story then :) Did you have to compile it on your own? Or did it have an installer script?
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79: Install skript
[08:25] <osiris> ok.  this may be a dumb question, but here goes.  how would i install a samba server in kubuntu, so users can mount the shares (aka dont need root access to the box to mount the share)
[08:25] <osiris> last time i installed it, i needed to run the share browser as root
[08:25] <Hikaru79> In that case, the uninstall method could be anything, There's probably an uninstall script as well, but there's no "standard" procedure if they have their own install script.
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79: Oh, dear... Thanks, I will look...
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: I can give you a .tar.gz version of mine that installs into /opt.
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> (not garrenteed to work though ;) )
[08:27] <ubuntu> hey everyone
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: My bad, I thought it was a .deb, but it was an tar.gz
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Bad boy.,
[08:27] <test> hiya ubuntu
[08:28] <ubuntu> how do i change my nickname here?
[08:28] <aegeanlinux>  /nick {new one}
[08:28] <priscillia> thx
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Your a few mistakes more away from being labled "n00b" (jokes)
[08:28] <priscillia> so from where is everyone
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> Australia mates.
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> mdsk: welcome.
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: I label myself noob anyway...
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> Now, now...
[08:29] <priscillia> i am from belgium
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> could be worse.
[08:29] <Hikaru79> Canada, here.
[08:29] <test> northeastern US
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> you could be an Xtreme-N00b.
[08:29] <priscillia> hi hikaru
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> from #Xtreme-N00b
[08:30] <Hikaru79> Hi Priscilla :)
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> Queen of the Desert
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> ;)
[08:30] <test> hehehe
[08:30] <priscillia> Do you guys know tisto
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> Sorry priscillia, I had to do it ;)
[08:31] <priscillia> you had to do what?
[08:31] <AegeanLinux> "Queen of the Desert"
[08:31] <AegeanLinux> google it ;)
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Isnt that the movie with the drag queens and their RV?
[08:31] <test> yep
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> The other australian movie besides Crocodile Dundee...
[08:31] <AegeanLinux> LOL!
[08:32] <priscillia> i think milhouse can know tiesto because yesterday when i went to see him there were even people from germany
[08:32] <AegeanLinux> What about the Crocodile Hunter
[08:32] <AegeanLinux> thats a classic
[08:32] <test> scary how i knew that too much tv at 3am i guess
[08:33] <priscillia> brb
[08:33] <AegeanLinux> kk.
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> I know nothing about tiesto!
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79: Any ideas how I can get rid of Fx2b by now?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> It does not look as if it had a remove scripts
[08:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: fx2b ?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> script*
[08:34] <priscillia> back
[08:34] <abattoir> firefox?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Firefox 2 Beta abattoir
[08:35] <abattoir> hmm, ok
[08:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: deb or tgz?
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> The regulars in #kubuntu-de talked me into it... But it does not run well along 1.5 installed
[08:35] <priscillia> do you guys know praga khan then?
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> tar.gz abattoir
[08:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'm not familiar w/ firefox packages now, but dont you have to just run those locally?
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> That means deleting the directory is all I need to do?
[08:37] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: give me a link to the installer you used. I'll install it and see how to uninstall it.
[08:37] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: how do you run it? /home/MPR/firefox/firefox or something?
[08:37] <crimsun> test: yes, I'm using it right now with xfwm4's compositor.
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> One second, Hikaru79... abattoir, kinda, I created a link to that, but it runs from /home/me/var/firefox/firefox
[08:38] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmm, then i think it is safe to remove the folder... give us the link, we'll see :)
[08:38] <abattoir> *i.e removing the folder and the symlink should get rid of it
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> There you go, Hikaru79 and abattoir -->http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0b1&os=linux&lang=de
[08:39] <Hikaru79> Okay. But I changed it to http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0b1&os=linux&lang=en , I'm sure that doesn't affect the install process :P
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Most likely not, Hikaru79...
[08:40] <test> crimson: interesting indeed.
[08:40] <kane__> anyone have windows on their machine (along with Kubuntu) ?
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe I should bite the bullet and switch my Kubuntu to English... So everyone can deal with the error messages...
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> kane__: Not me, but probably some people have that...
[08:41] <Hikaru79> kane__: I do.
[08:41] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what about the folks at -de ?
[08:41] <Hikaru79> A lot of people do ^ ^;
[08:41] <kane__> Hikaru79: have you set volume labels on your fat32 partitions ?
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> The channel is not very active in the morning time...
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: ^^
[08:41] <Hikaru79> Nope. I only have one, and it has no volume label.
[08:41] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, ok
[08:41] <kane__> Hikaru79: hmm ok ...
[08:42] <kane__> i just wanted to test if the media:/ shows the volume labels which are set in windows
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: They were all amazed with 2b, so I gave it a shot... But it does not really run stable here... E.g. pasting a few hundred lines on a pastebin makes it crash...
[08:42] <abattoir> kane__: i'd expect them to be shown? arent they being shown?
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a really slim browser, that is still kinda feature-rich?
[08:43] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: aah, ok, i prefer konqueror :)
[08:43] <kane__> abattoir: i dont know ... i dont have windows installed :)
[08:43] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: the link you gave isn't even an installer for me, it's a precompiled firefox that I can run right out of the dir.
[08:43] <kane__> MilhousePunkRock: isn't konqui feature rich ?
[08:43] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: if this is also what you have, then it is definitely 100% safe to just delete the directory and that is enough.
[08:43] <abattoir> kane__: because my FAT thumbdrive's label is shown... i know its not exactly a harddisk partition... but... :)
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: There was something about removing IPv6 to make Konq faster, wasn't it?
[08:44] <kane__> abattoir: aha ok :)
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Konqueror runs slower for me than Fx, kane__
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i think that's only if it is *very* slow
[08:44] <kane__> MilhousePunkRock: thats really wierd ... usually its the other way around
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: not 100% sure though
[08:44] <Hikaru79> Only certain, flawed, networks will get a speed bump for disabling ipv6. Most of the time, it's just a placebo effect.
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79, abattoir: OK... Only someone asked why his Konq was so slow lately, I told him to remove IPv6 and it helped...
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1467 bogomips), , RAM: 240/248MB, 85 proc's, 1.14h up
[08:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: looks like removing the folder should be enough... you didnt run any install script right?(not that there is one...)
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> If you look at this, I'm kinda running at the limit when it come to memory...
[08:47] <Hikaru79> Yeah, there's nothing I can see that would install anything to the fs.
[08:47] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: basically, did you at any point have to use 'sudo' while working with the beta?
[08:47] <Hikaru79> If not, then its impossible for files anywhere important to have been overwritten, so just delete the dir
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79: I can't really remember... Although it was last sunday... :-)
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> But I don' think so...
[08:49] <Hikaru79> Probably not.
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> There probably is a command or tool that will let me check which apps hog all the memory, right?
[08:49] <Hikaru79> MilhousePunkRock: use 'top'
[08:50] <lowercase> MilhousePunkRock: ksysguard
[08:50] <Hikaru79> You and your fancy GUI's ;-)
[08:51] <lowercase> hah :)
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Hikaru79: top is good enough, thx
[08:51] <lowercase> funny thing is: i don't actually like guis :D
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> So Xorg is using 12 %, Konversation another 8
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> And the console 6
[08:53] <dwangoac> Question: If I connect to a FTP server running on one Ubuntu system and download files that are owned by root to a local system, how do I change ownership?
[08:53] <dhq> i am new to kubuntu i need a client to log in to yahoo and msn messenger
[08:53] <Hikaru79> dwangoac: chown
[08:53] <dwangoac> Or, to be more specific, I pulled down a directory that insists on remaining owned by root even if I sudo chown it as my local user...
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock> If I doubled my RAM, would the processes take more of it then cause it's more available?
[08:54] <Hikaru79> dhq, Kubuntu comes with one. It's called "Kopete" in the Internet menu. Very good software =)
[08:54] <dhq> let me see it Hikaru79
[08:54] <Hikaru79> What do you mean?
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: I second what Hikaru79 said, Kopete is really nice..
[08:54] <Hikaru79> Just go to "Internet->Kopete" in the menu
[08:54] <dhq> Hikaru79: i will check it out
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Although it has no plugin for XFire
[08:55] <dwangoac> Hikaru79: Question: If I connect to a Linux FTP server and copy files that are owned by root to a local Linux system, how do I mark those files as being owned by a user of the local Linux system?
[08:55] <dwangoac> er...
[08:55] <dwangoac> Hikaru79: sorry about that - cut and paste error.
[08:55] <Hikaru79> :)
[08:55] <dwangoac> Hikaru79: Let me try changing ownership to a single file...
[08:55] <Hikaru79> dwangoac: you may have to do 'sudo chown' instead of plain 'chown'
[08:56] <dwangoac> Hikaru79: I think I was dyslexified - it was the group set to root, not the user...  Just realized that chgrp is what I needed.
[08:57] <Kadran> hello
[08:57] <Hikaru79> Ah :) There you go.
[08:57] <Hikaru79> Hi, Kadran!
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello Kadran
[08:57] <Kadran> hi Hikaru79
[08:58] <Kadran> i have the java applications works very slow, does any one know why it could be the reason?
[08:58] <Akeru> apt-get remove gcj && apt-get install sun-java-jre :D
[08:58] <Akeru> (joking)
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Kadran, that's Java for you ^ ^; But which version of Java are you on?
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Type java -version
[08:59] <Hikaru79> What does it give you?
[08:59] <Kadran> it is 1.4.2
[09:01] <Hikaru79> Sun?
[09:01] <Kadran> yeah
[09:01] <Hikaru79> Hm
[09:01] <Hikaru79> Well, 1.5 is way better, but that shouldn't be the reason for your performance problems.
[09:02] <Hikaru79> Which program are you particularly having problems with?
[09:02] <Hikaru79> Because Java is often, especially with Swing, just naturally slow.
[09:03] <Kadran> it is my company web site and it is all full of java and works perfect in the office
[09:03] <Kadran> there is windows in the office so i don't think that windows could be faster than linux
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir
[09:04] <Kadran> even the server is windows and yesterday it was so funny the administrator opened some GUI and keep looking for services name and it was soo funny
[09:05] <Hikaru79> Is this client-side or server-side Java?
[09:06] <Kadran> it is in the client side
[09:07] <Kadran> Hikaru79: i will try to remove all things that is related to java and download the latest version from sun site, hope this will make it work faster
[09:08] <ubuntu> hi
[09:08] <Kadran> hello ubuntu
[09:08] <ubuntu> hi kadran
[09:09] <Hikaru79> Kadran, if you use Dapper, then it's already in multiverse
[09:09] <ubuntu> hey anyone know where to get working drivers for my fly view tv card?
[09:09] <Hikaru79> (The Sun JDK/JRE)
[09:10] <Kadran> yeah thanks man
[09:10] <Kadran> i will enable the resp. and see it
[09:10] <Hikaru79> =) Good luck.
[09:10] <Kadran> thanks
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto2ck1.png
[09:17] <osiris> in a multi-user kubuntu system, how can you disable user access to sudo
[09:17] <dhq> my sound in kubuntu is not working
[09:18] <Hikaru79> osiris: The /etc/sudoers file.
[09:18] <dhq> how do i make my sound work
[09:18] <Hikaru79> In general, they have to be in the admin group in order to have sudo access
[09:18] <osiris> thx
[09:23] <sF|Xemanth> how do i get rid of sudo ? and bring back old su :| sudo is so scary
[09:24] <nabil> my installer gives me a problem
[09:25] <Kadran> what kind of problem nabil?
[09:28] <kraut> moin
[09:30] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:30] <sF|Xemanth> !sudo
[09:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:30] <tachyon> hi folks
[09:33] <Hikaru79> Hi, tachyon :)
[09:33] <Kadran> Hikaru79: Thanks man it is faster
[09:33] <tachyon> hi Hikaru79
[09:34] <tachyon> I've borked my KDE install, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:34] <Spunky> bonjour :)
[09:35] <Hikaru79> tachyon: We need way more details than that ^ ^;
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Unless you want to just reinstall from scratch
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Kadran, no problem :)
[09:35] <tachyon> sure. Dapper Drake. Freezes after reaching "restoring session"
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Hm.
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Anything strange you did before this appeared
[09:35] <Hikaru79> ?
[09:36] <tachyon> yes. I experimented with xgl
[09:36] <Hikaru79> That's almost certainly why, then. Ask around in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:36] <Hikaru79> They know a lot about that stuff.
[09:36] <tachyon> aha.
[09:36] <tachyon> this is also on freenode?
[09:36] <Hikaru79> Yup :)
[09:37] <Hikaru79> There's so many ubuntu-related channels on freenode it boggles the mind
[09:37] <tachyon> thanks!
[09:37] <Hikaru79> No problem ^^
[09:38] <BanBot> Hello there, BanBot
[09:38] <_Shade_> hi there
[09:39] <BanBot> Hello there, micah
[09:39] <micah> hello
[09:39] <BanBot> Hello there!
[09:39] <micah> good to be on the forum
[09:39] <BanBot> Hi there!
[09:40] <BanBot> Hello there, dhq
[09:41] <micah> I am just getting into learning linux
[09:41] <dhq> BanBot: hey
[09:41] <dhq> i have just installed kubuntu and dont have any idea how to use it
[09:41] <BanBot> BanBot can!
[09:42] <dhq> what is the super user password by default
[09:42] <leigh> sudo passwd
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: Your user password
[09:43] <byen> hey guys, I have a question.. i can only mount my external USB hdd and my mem stick by using sudo modprobe -r ehci-hcd how can i mount them automatically
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Mine mount automatically when I plug them in, byen
[09:44] <byen> MilhousePunkRock, mine used to too.. but not in dapper
[09:45] <dhq> i have problem with sound device can anyone help
[09:46] <crimsun> please describe your problem
[09:46] <dhq> well i donst seem to be able to play any music
[09:46] <dhq> and i can hear only system sound
[09:47] <dhq> like the beep from console
[09:47] <dhq> and some other
[09:47] <tachyon> Hikaru79: are you still there?
[09:47] <micah> dhq, what media player are you using?
[09:47] <dhq> amarok
[09:48] <micah> what kind of files are playing? mp3, wma?
[09:48] <dhq> mp3
[09:48] <crimsun> dhq: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[09:49] <dhq> plus when i start skype i get erro msg problem with sound device
[09:49] <Hikaru79> tachyon, yup.
[09:49] <flaccid> dhq: probably not a full duplex card as well so it gets locked by apps
[09:49] <dhq> crimsun: i dont know how to installl
[09:49] <dhq> it ran well on the previous version of kubuntu
[09:50] <flaccid> !multimedia
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[09:50] <tachyon> Hikaru79: I just thought I'd ask, are we sure there's no file related to these old sessions that I can delete?
[09:50] <Hikaru79> Well, what you can do
[09:50] <Hikaru79> Is go to control panel
[09:50] <crimsun> dhq: What's the output from ``dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii'' ?
[09:50] <Hikaru79> (System Settings)
[09:50] <Hikaru79> Go to "KDE Components" in the first row
[09:50] <Hikaru79> Select the "Session Manager" from the menu on the left
[09:51] <tachyon> wait, I can only boot into GNOME
[09:51] <Hikaru79> Oh...
[09:51] <Hikaru79> Hmm
[09:51] <Hikaru79> Type this in a terminal: systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[09:51] <tachyon> is there a safe-boot like Mac+windoze?
[09:51] <dhq> crimsun: no output
[09:51] <Hikaru79> There is, but not for KDE, just for the shell.
[09:51] <tachyon> yeah
[09:51] <flaccid> single user mode
[09:51] <Hikaru79> Well, maybe there is for KDE too, I just don't know about it.
[09:52] <Healot> single mode - kinda, question?
[09:52] <flaccid> i assume
[09:52] <Hikaru79> flaccid: he needs one for KDE, not for the shell.
[09:52] <flaccid> or perhaps there is something more suitable
[09:52] <flaccid> oh
[09:52] <flaccid> sorry
[09:52] <Hikaru79> tachyon: did that line work? Did System Settings load?
[09:52] <flaccid> hehe that would be unecessary/bloat if it existed i guess
[09:53] <dhq> crimsun: i do not get any output for `dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii'
[09:53] <tachyon> Hikaru79: command not found
[09:53] <Hikaru79> Hm.
[09:53] <Hikaru79> What about just 'systemsettings'?
[09:53] <crimsun> dhq: please ``sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs''
[09:55] <dhq> crimsun: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:55] <tachyon> Hikaru79: not in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[09:55] <crimsun> dhq: close adept/synaptic/aptitude
[09:56] <Hikaru79> Weird, my Kubuntu installation came with system-settings in /usr/bin
[09:56] <dhq> crimsun:  close adept/synaptic/aptitude i dint get you
[09:57] <tachyon> Hikaru79: I only added KDE afterwards
[09:57] <Hikaru79> Ah
[09:57] <Hikaru79> Ah!
[09:57] <Hikaru79> Do sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings
[09:58] <Hikaru79> Then once it's installed, run systemsettings
[09:58] <Hikaru79> Go to "KDE Components"
[09:58] <Hikaru79> "Session Manager"
[09:58] <Hikaru79> And set it to "Start with a blank session on startup"
[09:58] <Hikaru79> Instead of trying to load an old one.
[09:58] <tachyon> ahhhhh
[09:58] <crimsun> dhq: it means exit Adept, or Synaptic, or aptitude
[10:00] <dhq> crimsun:E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[10:00] <_Vman> dhq: in Adept>Manage Repositories you must add to "Universe" the "Multiverse" keyword to add that repository to fetch the updates for the libxine-extracodecs after you do this right click the lines chose "Enable" at the bottom "Apply" then "Fetch Updates" at the bottom and after this you will be able to see the libxine-extracodecs package in ADEPT. :)
[10:01] <tachyon> arrgh Konversation has no copy function!
[10:01] <Hikaru79> What do you mean?
[10:01] <Hikaru79> To copy text? Yes it does..
[10:01] <Hikaru79> Right-click + copy, or just ctrl+c
[10:02] <Ace2005> My computer just crashed!!!! the second i pressed play in juk all hell broke loose
[10:02] <tachyon> Hikaru79: its grayed out
[10:02] <Ace2005> The mouse instantaniously stopped moving, the keyboard stopped too, the numlock wouldn't work, it just froze
[10:03] <Ace2005> i think its to do with arts
[10:03] <Hikaru79> What's greyed out?
[10:03] <tachyon> copy was. It's ok now. sorry
[10:03] <Ace2005> It happens if i leave the computer idle over night and when i play music without killing arts first so it restarts the computer freezes
[10:06] <Ace2005> No one had arts freeze up on them? ever?
[10:07] <Hikaru79> Not yet :P
[10:07] <Hikaru79> !rules
[10:07] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:08] <ions_> may i request some assistance with the installation of kernel sources?
[10:08] <Healot> pay up, ions_, ahaks
[10:08] <ions_> lol
[10:09] <ions_> is /usr/src/linux the appropiate location?
[10:09] <ions_> with linux being a symlink
[10:10] <Chousuke> the package manager should take care of it.
[10:10] <Chousuke> but yes, the sources are usually symlinked there.
[10:10] <ions_> yer i installed it throu adept aswell
[10:10] <ions_> but still gettin erros with some drivers im trying 2 install
[10:10] <digitalslacker> does anybody know how to get SSL/TLS support in the Links browser?
[10:11] <Ace2005> Anyone knw how to get rid of error popups that azureus shows? like the one about azureus not being shut down tidily?
[10:13] <bbt> hmm. tried installing Enemy Territory. had to do it as sudo. when i run it, i have to run it with sudo or it doesnt work correctly. so i am basically running the game as root right?
[10:13] <Hikaru79> Ace2005: yes, that's a known bug
[10:13] <Hikaru79> Ace2005: For some reason, if you go to the "help/about" window, it will be close-bale
[10:13] <Hikaru79> *close-able
[10:14] <Hikaru79> That's the only way to turn the darn thing off =P Weird, weird bug.
[10:14] <suliman> hi
[10:14] <suliman> i have problem with installing nvidia driver
[10:15] <suliman> i can`t exit x server , what i do ?
[10:15] <Ace2005> Hikaru79: Thanks i'll try it after it restarts, Any way to remove the popups?
[10:16] <Hikaru79> Ace2005, nope, but there's about 3 bug reports on Azureus' Bugzilla for this issue, I'm sure that that feature will exist in the next release =P
[10:17] <Ace2005> Hikaru79: Thanks, are you by any chance a fan of dragon drive?
[10:17] <Hikaru79> Ace2005: I've seen it, but the name actually comes from Hikaru no Go ;-)
[10:18] <Ace2005> Hikaru79: Oh ok
[10:18] <Healot> damn board game cartoon
[10:20] <Hikaru79> Healot, I hope you are not insulting Hikaru no Go >:(
[10:21] <abattoir> Hikaru79: Hikaru no go... Hikaru's Language?
[10:21] <Hikaru79> No, not quite :P
[10:21] <Hikaru79> I think "go" only has that meaning as a suffix, not a standalone
[10:22] <Hikaru79> "Go" is an ancient Chinese board game
[10:22] <abattoir> hmmmm
[10:22] <Hikaru79> That's what Hikaru no Go refers to. It's really a very excellent anime, despite it seeming like it has a very overdone premise.
[10:24] <JonB> my screen seems larger than my monitor. When i reach the edge it scrools the screen
[10:24] <JonB> ?
[10:24] <flaccid> JonB: monitor may not be able to support that resolution
[10:24] <flaccid> ie. too high res
[10:24] <JonB> flaccid: monitor supports 2048x1536
[10:25] <Ace2005> Hey what do you think of this: http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rect4175bo5.png I'm making a boot theme and i was wondering what you think
[10:25] <flaccid> could be to do with the monitor entry in xorg.conf or the monitor driver
[10:25] <JonB> flaccid: and i did run it earlier, but the slight flicker at 60hz made me try a lower resolution to get a higher hz
[10:25] <flaccid> i guess #xorg can help
[10:25] <flaccid> hmm interesting
[10:25] <JonB> ok
[10:26] <flaccid> is it a laptop?
[10:26] <JonB> no, desktop
[10:27] <JonB> with a agp matrox g450
[10:27] <JonB> dual screen
[10:27] <JonB> one is 1600x1200
[10:27] <JonB> actually both are
[10:27] <dhq> how do i see the bandwith and all processes which tool is it
[10:27] <JonB> flaccid: but i tried to run the primary at a higher resolution and the 2. at the max 1600x1200
[10:28] <JonB> flaccid: the primary should be able to do 2048x1536, though only at 60 hz
[10:28] <flaccid> what are you using for the dual display capability
[10:29] <JonB> flaccid: what do you mean? both monitors are the same 21" viewsonic g220f
[10:30] <flaccid> what provides the ability to do dual display. like mergeFB or twinview
[10:31] <flaccid> have you seen http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors its always good for any distro
[10:31] <JonB> flaccid: i enabled a second screen option in the settings panel
[10:31] <JonB> flaccid: the card has 2 VGA out
[10:32] <flaccid> kde kcontrol panel?
[10:32] <JonB> flaccid: yes
[10:32] <flaccid> is the issue only when using dual displays?
[10:32] <JonB> flaccid: i think
[10:32] <JonB> flaccid: i did not notice it before
[10:32] <JonB> and when i ran a higher resolution i did not see it either
[10:33] <JonB> on the primary monitor
[10:33] <flaccid> you may need to do a bit of work in xorg.conf and/or use a dual display manager
[10:33] <JonB> flaccid: there is a dual display manager built into kde kcontrol panel
[10:33] <JonB> flaccid: besides i dont want to stop at 2...
[10:34] <flaccid> i know there is a dual display manager built in, but this is not suffice for a lot of setups
[10:34] <JonB> flaccid: i have 5 of the same monitor, but my table has only enough space for 4
[10:34] <JonB> flaccid: okay
[10:34] <JonB> flaccid: what options exists to link 2 xservers together ?
[10:34] <flaccid> i couldn't get a lot to work 'out of the box' with kde
[10:34] <JonB> flaccid: okay
[10:35] <office_> hi
[10:35] <JonB> can i get something so i with 2 pc's can share keyboard and mouse ?
[10:35] <office_> please help
[10:35] <flaccid> options exist on the wiki page...
[10:35] <flaccid> i think you can do anything of what you suggested with configuration of xinerama of mergefb
[10:35] <office_> I have an error message for libpq4 - final line is missing
[10:35] <Healot> JonB: get a kvm switch
[10:35] <office_> how to fix it
[10:36] <JonB> Healot: why? then i have to press some button
[10:36] <JonB> flaccid: okay
[10:36] <flaccid> heh getting a kvm would defeat the purpose of dual display
[10:36] <office_> !libpq4
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about libpq4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:36] <JonB> flaccid: i think he ment only for switching the keyboard/mouse
[10:37] <office_> who can help ,e
[10:37] <office_> me
[10:37] <office_> I realy need help a problem solution for this error in the final line
[10:37] <flaccid> hmm i don't see how that could work but fair enough ;)
[10:38] <JonB> flaccid: when i want to move from one screen to the other i would switch the kvm and the mouse would move on the other screen
[10:38] <office_> come on, give me an idea
[10:38] <office_> help me
[10:39] <flaccid> JonB: would you still need more than 1 computer for this?
[10:41] <JonB> flaccid: yes, because i have 4 monitors and only one AGP slot in each computer
[10:41] <JonB> flaccid: the only pci gfx cards i can find for free are s3 virge and s3 trio64
[10:41] <flaccid> right
[10:41] <JonB> flaccid: i do have 2 agp matrox cards though, so it'll have to be 2 computers
[10:41] <flaccid> i understand
[10:41] <JonB> flaccid: or i have to buy new equipment
[10:42] <flaccid> well this scenario is defeated for 2 screen set up, maybe not for more
[10:42] <flaccid> but im' sure you can do all this stuff with mergefb
[10:43] <JonB> i'll look at it
[10:43] <JonB> can mergefb move windows across ?
[10:43] <flaccid> pretty sure yes
[10:43] <Ace2005> Hikaru79: The bug is fixed in the latest CVS: http://azureus.sf.net/cvs
[10:43] <flaccid> it'll say the features online somewhere, like on its homepage
[10:43] <JonB> cool because some years ago i could only move mouse
[10:44] <flaccid> ah that would suck
[10:44] <flaccid> all of em should be able to move a window these days you would expect
[10:44] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey hows it goin, had to revert me compiz to quinn12 packages was gettin lag on the latest stuff dam it :)
[10:44] <JonB> flaccid: it's 6? years ago i think
[10:45] <flaccid> dang
[10:46] <JonB> flaccid: do you happen to know the homepage? google does only seem to link to howto's
[10:47] <flaccid> sorry  i don't
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Any got an idea why that green ball from the adept updater won't go away anymore when it realizes there are no updates?
[10:49] <Hikaru79> Ace2005: thanks for the heads-up =)
[10:52] <cotroler> I have just installed Enemy Territory for linux (opengl) and i have got no sound....do i need to install drivers?
[10:54] <AegeanLinux> cotroler: Try turning off all other sound apps
[10:55] <AegeanLinux> and also turn of the KDE sound system
[10:55] <AegeanLinux> then try again ;0
[10:55] <cotroler> tnx..
[10:56] <cotroler> ill try :)
[10:56] <cotroler> K worked now :D
[10:57] <mcihad> what is kubuntu?
[10:57] <cotroler> linux disrto
[10:57] <cotroler> *distro
[11:02] <wilfredH> does anyone here get their kernels direct from kernel.org?
[11:06] <eeos> hi there
[11:06] <wilfredH> hi
[11:06] <eeos> I have problems with printing on 6.06 lts
[11:07] <wilfredH> there have been a few bugs with cupsd and printing - is everything up to date on your box?
[11:10] <eeos> yes it is, but I cannot access cupsd using the web interface
[11:11] <eeos> or install the printer using kdprint or printconf
[11:11] <eeos> the printer is a common one
[11:11] <eeos> the ppd file is there
[11:11] <eeos> everything is up to date, pgraded this morning
[11:11] <eeos> what do you think?
[11:11] <eeos> is there a workaround?
[11:15] <cotroler> Azureus needs JRE...I have Java installed...is Java and JRE the same????
[11:16] <eeos> wilfredH: are you still there?
[11:16] <rob> try ktorrent instead
[11:16] <rob> having to use java just to download torrents is stupid
[11:17] <cotroler> rob: ktorrent doesn't let me seed downloaded files
[11:17] <rob> It works for me
[11:18] <rob> check your settings
[11:18] <cotroler> is there some kind of update to do with it?
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> CU next time everyone...
[11:18] <wilfredH> eeos: yup
[11:18] <tachyon> hey folks, whats your favorite VNC viewer?
[11:18] <eeos> wilfredH: do you know if there is a workaround for this problem?
[11:19] <rob> cotroler, no, just click Settings -> Configure Ktorrent and take a look
[11:19] <cotroler> The Application KTorrent crashed and caused signal 11.... - shows isnt good wont even start
[11:19] <cotroler> rob:The Application KTorrent crashed and caused signal 11.... - shows isnt good wont even start
[11:19] <wilfredH> eeos: one sec, checking
[11:19] <rob> have you installed all the updates cotroler?
[11:19] <cotroler> rob: yes
[11:19] <rob> try running it again then
[11:20] <cotroler> rob: i did i even restarted pc but it still gives eror
[11:20] <rob> what, everytime you run it?
[11:20] <cotroler> yes
[11:20] <rob> maybe file a bug report then
[11:21] <rob> it works flawlessly for me at least on Dapper
[11:21] <cotroler> grr
[11:21] <cotroler> i got drapper 2
[11:22] <wilfredH> eeos: http://www.alweb.dk/blog/anders/kubuntu_dapper_now_with_printing_working
[11:25] <eeos> wilfredH: on the phone, grrrrrrrr
[11:26] <eeos> wilfredH:I had already added the root account
[11:34] <EmanuelF> why my kde crahses frequently? (kwin.. etc) =(
[11:35] <fannagoganna> that i don't know
[11:36] <EmanuelF> that happens with someone too?
[11:39] <ricardo> hi..
[11:39] <ricardo> does anybody know if MATLAB is a "Swing application"??
[11:39] <ricardo> thx
[11:40] <digibre4k_> hallo...
[11:40] <digibre4k_> its me again..!!!
[11:40] <digibre4k_> I need help again...!!!
[11:41] <digibre4k_> Can U help me?????
[11:41] <digibre4k_> How can chat with xandros or kubuntu????
[11:43] <abattoir> EmanuelF: are you running xgl/compiz by any chance?
[11:43] <abattoir> digibre4k_: kopete? which protocol?
[11:44] <digibre4k_> can explain????
[11:44] <abattoir> digibre4k_: yes, can you please explain? :P
[11:44] <digibre4k_> How use that???
[11:44] <abattoir> digibre4k_: what do you exactly want to do?
[11:44] <digibre4k_> Chat!!!!
[11:45] <digibre4k_> Like MIRC .....?
[11:45] <abattoir> digibre4k_: then konversation is the app
[11:45] <abattoir> digibre4k_: what are you on? Windows?
[11:45] <digibre4k_> Linux???
[11:45] <abattoir> digibre4k_: then arent you already on an IRC client?
[11:46] <digibre4k_> Windows??? I dont used again!!!
[11:46] <emanuel_> abattoir: no.. just xorg and kde
[11:46] <digibre4k_> bye..bye...windows!!!!!!!!
[11:46] <abattoir> anyways, Konversation is an IRC client which comes default with Kubuntu
[11:46] <abattoir> emanuel_: is it reproducible?
[11:46] <abattoir> emanuel_: like it occurs randomly? or does it occur after you do something specifically?
[11:47] <emanuel_> randomly
[11:47] <abattoir> emanuel_: so 'kwin' crashes, and you lose window borders?
[11:47] <emanuel_> a debian user told me that kde 3.5 has this problem
[11:47] <abattoir> or is X restarted?
[11:47] <emanuel_> I loose window borders
[11:48] <emanuel_> then I need to restart X
[11:48] <abattoir> emanuel_: have you upgraded to kde 3.5.3 ?
[11:48] <emanuel_> yes
[11:48] <abattoir> or are you w/ the stock 3.5.2 which comes w/ dapper
[11:48] <abattoir> oh ok.
[11:48] <abattoir> so you didnt have this before upgrading?
[11:49] <emanuel_> its the same before and after..
[11:49] <emanuel_> i think im going back to gnome..
[11:49] <emanuel_> kde isnt for me
[11:50] <emanuel_> anyway.. abattoir tkz for the help
[11:51] <abattoir> emanuel_: no problem, whatever you prefer. :)
[11:51] <cotroler> Is there any way to login as root in the browser pls ??????
[11:52] <emanuel_> this freedom of choice is the best thing in linux :)
[11:52] <abattoir> cotroler: you want to open up konqueror as root?
[11:52] <cotroler> yes
[11:52] <abattoir> cotroler: 'kdesu konqueror'
[11:52] <cotroler> tnx
[11:57] <digibre4k_> how can i chat if i used xandros???
[11:57] <abattoir> digibre4k_: KDE?
[11:57] <digibre4k_> explain ....please,........??
[11:57] <digibre4k_> Yup...KDE.
[11:58] <abattoir> digibre4k_: as i said, konversation is an IRC client, but someone at a xandros channel might be more familiar with  its applications.
[11:58] <abattoir> #xandros maybe?
[12:01] <digibre4k_> nothing explain???
[12:04] <fannagoganna> !info amarok
[12:04] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[12:04] <fannagoganna> !info adept
[12:04] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[12:05] <grizzly> is there a option so that commands with less than 2 characters are not added to bash's history?
[12:08] <AegeanLinux> !ubotu
[12:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:08] <AegeanLinux> !ubuntu linux
[12:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu linux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:08] <AegeanLinux> !kubuntu linux
[12:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about kubuntu linux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:08] <AegeanLinux> Dang. I though this thing was the #kubuntu bot
[12:08] <AegeanLinux> this thing doesn't even know what its talking about ;)
[12:09] <jhak88> anyone: um... how do I change the "Open With" program?
[12:09] <jhak88> so I don't have to use Amarok but XMMS?
[12:10] <ricardo> hey guys....what do u have under CLASSPATH?
[12:14] <RawSewage> jhak88, right click the file
[12:14] <RawSewage> select Properties
[12:14] <RawSewage> click the Wrench
[12:16] <eeos> I need some help with printing on kubuntu 6.06
[12:16] <eeos> anybody out there who knows a bit about it?
[12:16] <RawSewage> no, something to do with CUPS
[12:22] <RawSewage> Is the Update broken?  Mine has been broken for a few days now
[12:22] <RawSewage> kdelib or something
[12:23] <eeos> RawSewage: yes I think it is aproblem with cups, I cannot access it with the web interface either
[12:24] <eeos> but it appears to be running
[12:24] <RawSewage> your best bet is to search  http://ubuntuforums.org/
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> eeos, No experiance with cups, but did you check your firewall.
[12:28] <RawSewage> Am I the only one who's update has been broken for the last 2 days
[12:30] <RawSewage> Is the update broken for anyone else?
[12:30] <RawSewage> Ive been asking this question for a few days now
[12:30] <RawSewage> no one has answered
[12:31] <RawSewage> Ive answered 100 peoples questions in the meantime
[12:31] <Tm_T> yes, there's been some issues with repositories, everything works fine now
[12:32] <RawSewage> ok, I'll try for the 100th time today
[12:32] <RawSewage> I doubt it will be fixed though
[12:32] <Tm_T> what's the problem exactly?
[12:33] <RawSewage> kdelibs-data is broken
[12:33] <RawSewage> Im trying again...
[12:33] <Tm_T> err?
[12:33] <Tm_T> please give me exact errormessage
[12:33] <RawSewage> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[12:34] <RawSewage> I get this trying to upgrade kdelibs-data
[12:34] <RawSewage> then I have to go do the dpkg --configure thing in order to unlock it and update the unbroken ones
[12:35] <RawSewage> I'll just wait a few more days, I guess
[12:35] <Tm_T> sounds weird
[12:35] <Tm_T> nothing like that been here
[12:35] <RawSewage> ok ty
[12:57] <priscillia> hi everyone
[12:57] <tachyon> hello
[12:57] <priscillia> hey tachyon
[12:58] <kane__> hey all
[12:58] <priscillia> hey kane
[12:58] <kane__> hey priscillia
[12:58] <priscillia> what language?
[12:58] <kane__> language ?
[12:58] <cotroler> How do you uninstall programs in kubuntu?? is there an uninstaller or something?
[12:59] <priscillia> what language do you speak
[12:59] <kane__> i can speak english and malayalam :)
[12:59] <cotroler> !uninstall
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about uninstall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <priscillia> i don't know cotroler
[12:59] <tachyon> is it in KPackage?
[12:59] <kane__> cotroler: try the "Add Remove programs"
[12:59] <priscillia> mala what?
[12:59] <kane__> cotroler: you can also remove packages from adept
[12:59] <kane__> priscillia: malayalam
[12:59] <priscillia> i just have my linux for a short time
[01:00] <cotroler> kane__: for example i installed a game not from adept...how can i remove it?
[01:00] <kane__> priscillia: how do you like it so far ?
[01:00] <priscillia> where do you live?
[01:00] <kane__> cotroler: how did you install it ?
[01:00] <priscillia> it is ok
[01:00] <D4m4ge> hello
[01:00] <kane__> priscillia: Kochi, Kerala, India
[01:00] <cotroler> kane__ ./install
[01:00] <kane__> cotroler: eh ... that doesnt say much i'm afraid
[01:01] <kane__> cotroler: did you see any files ending with .deb ?
[01:01] <priscillia> i have to go my boyfriend is here
[01:01] <kane__> priscillia: ciao
[01:01] <cotroler> let me see
[01:01] <cotroler> kane__ usr/local/games/enemy-territory
[01:02] <kane__> cotroler: if that directory contains all the files you want to remove ..
[01:02] <z00m> anyone on an amd64 version of kubuntu?
[01:02] <kane__> cotroler: then you can do "sudo rm -rf /usr/local/games/enemy-territory"
[01:02] <Healot> I on Windows XP x64 2003 :)
[01:03] <z00m> i intsall the k8 linux kernel, but its not booting!
[01:03] <z00m> install^
[01:03] <abattoir> z00m: grub?
[01:04] <abattoir> z00m: was it updated after you installed the kernel? and do you get an error message when trying to boot?
[01:04] <z00m> abattoir: yeah i select it in grub, it then trys to boot the image but then just switches back to the kubuntu logo and hangs
[01:05] <abattoir> z00m: which processor? Athlon64?
[01:05] <z00m> yes
[01:05] <z00m> amd64 3000+
[01:05] <abattoir> z00m: can you remove 'silent splash' from the kernel options and see what the error message is?
[01:05] <abattoir> in grub menu.lst, that is
[01:06] <z00m> ok, ill give that a go now
[01:06] <z00m> then ill be back in a sec
[01:06] <abattoir> z00m: ok
[01:09] <flaccid> does kde have a gui general configuration error
[01:10] <abattoir> flaccid: 'kcontrol' and 'systemsettings'
[01:10] <flaccid> thanks
[01:12] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: welcome back :)
[01:12] <JonB> hey Ademan
[01:12] <flaccid> what part of kcontrol?
[01:12] <flaccid> i mean equiv of gconf
[01:12] <abattoir> flaccid: umm, what does gconf do? :P
[01:12] <flaccid> oh thats not what i mean
[01:13] <flaccid> um i mean a program that indexes your computers .conf files for easy access and edit under root
[01:13] <flaccid> text edit
[01:14] <betgame> think you got what it takes to win? go to http://mldesigners.com/betgame/ to prove your worthiness!!
[01:15] <_pedro> Hi everyone
[01:15] <z00m> abattoir: you there ?
[01:15] <_pedro> I would like to have some help
[01:16] <abattoir> flaccid: oh, then i'm not sure...
[01:16] <abattoir> z00m: yes
[01:16] <_pedro> Recently I upgrade from breezy to dapper
[01:16] <_pedro> I had only 2 errors
[01:16] <cotroler> !paste
[01:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:16] <abattoir> flaccid: wouldnt gconf also work w/ kde? or is it DE specific?
[01:16] <z00m> the error is to do with there is no module for nividia in kernel
[01:17] <_pedro> it failed in configure hplip and kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <z00m> nvidia i mean
[01:17] <_pedro> now My desktop is poor
[01:17] <abattoir> z00m: install 'linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8' or something similar
[01:17] <_pedro> what can I do?
[01:17] <z00m> ah right
[01:17] <flaccid> it does but gconf is not what i thought it was its like equiv of kcontrol i think
[01:17] <z00m> ok
[01:18] <abattoir> flaccid: sorry, i didnt understand what you meant by 'configuration' editor... :P
[01:18] <flaccid> yeah sorry i was vague
[01:18] <z00m> abattoir: i got the error when trying to startx
[01:18] <JonB> hey abattoir
[01:19] <abattoir> JonB: hello :)
[01:19] <abattoir> z00m: i think installing that metapackage should solve it.
[01:19] <abattoir> !info linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8
[01:19] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 does not exist in dapper
[01:20] <JonB> abattoir: i got it working, it was that extra pci gfx that made the trouble
[01:20] <cotroler>  got this error when installing azureus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19091
[01:20] <abattoir> JonB: good :) so you have to live only w/ one monitor for now, i guess.. :P
[01:21] <JonB> abattoir: no, the matrox has 2 vga out. I have 5x21" and wanted to use all. It appears like i have to use an extra pc and use synergi
[01:21] <abattoir> JonB: oh, ok
[01:21] <JonB> abattoir: to link them together
[01:22] <_pedro> Please, I would be glad to have some help
[01:23] <abattoir> _pedro: could you 'pastebin' your errors?
[01:23] <abattoir> !pastebin > _pedro
[01:24] <_pedro> the only thing that the error says is that it couldn't configure hplip and kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <z00m> abattoir: rebooting again to test ... brb
[01:26] <flaccid> ldap server to use?
[01:28] <Healot> hum
[01:28] <z00m> abattoir: its working now! ;)
[01:28] <abattoir> z00m: cool :)
[01:28] <z00m> so whats the difference
[01:29] <_pedro> well, I am here again
[01:29] <abattoir> b/w k8 and generic?
[01:29] <z00m> yes
[01:29] <abattoir> i guess k8 is a bit more optimised for Athlon/Opteron
[01:30] <_pedro> I solved that problem but now the point is that I have a Desktop without Menu item in the bar menu
[01:30] <_pedro> I even don't have the K of all the programs
[01:30] <_pedro> How can I have my previous configuration of kde?
[01:31] <abattoir> _pedro: rt.click on the panel -> add applet to panel
[01:31] <z00m> ah ok, it seem to take the same time to boot and can't really see any performance jump
[01:31] <abattoir> _pedro: do you see a kmenu entry there?
[01:31] <_pedro> no
[01:31] <abattoir> _pedro: ok, rt. click on the panel-> add application to panel->add this menu
[01:32] <_pedro> ok
[01:32] <abattoir> _pedro: do you have 'kubuntu-desktop' installed?
[01:32] <_pedro> yes
[01:32] <abattoir> oh, ok
[01:33] <abattoir> _pedro: you can get the 'default' kicker configuration that comes w/ kubuntu by deleting the kikcerrc file in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[01:33] <_pedro> I am going to try
[01:33] <abattoir> _pedro: close kicker before that with 'killall kicker'
[01:34] <abattoir> _pedro: after you delete the file, execute 'kicker'
[01:34] <_pedro> hey!!
[01:34] <_pedro> I worked!!
[01:34] <abattoir> _pedro: nice :)
[01:34] <_pedro> you ar a genius man!
[01:35] <z00m> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[01:35] <z00m> [Switching to Thread 46912553854544 (LWP 5489)] 
[01:35] <z00m> 0x00002aaaad447fa0 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6
[01:35] <abattoir> _pedro: hehe, lol
[01:35] <z00m> damn nessus!
[01:35] <_pedro> ok
[01:35] <_pedro> now everything is all right
[01:35] <_pedro> I have working my kubuntu dapper
[01:35] <_pedro> ;)
[01:36] <_pedro> Thanks very much all of you
[01:36] <tachyon> will no one suggest a VNC client to me?
[01:36] <Healot> xvnc?
[01:36] <Healot> and ssh -X (not vnc hehe)
[01:37] <tachyon> no this is for controlling my mac
[01:38] <kane__> tachyon: i think there is a VNC client in default Kubuntu
[01:38] <tachyon> so is this in /usr/bin?
[01:39] <tachyon> i dont know where to find it
[01:39] <kane__> tachyon: K->Internet-> Remote Desktop Connection
[01:41] <tachyon> kane__: the Connect button is grayed out!
[01:42] <ronald> Zijn er mensen die me willen helpen met een software-raid probleem?
[01:42] <abattoir> !nl
[01:42] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[01:44] <ronald> I'm sorry
[01:44] <ronald> #ubuntu-nl
[01:44] <kane__> tachyon: well, you need to type the right server addres ... press browse and see what happens
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> ronald: Either type /join #ubuntu-nl , or just click on the blue channel name
[01:46] <ronald> It's a very lang time ago that I've used IRC. Going... going... gone
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> And ronald, don't ask if you can ask, just ask... ;-)
[01:50] <ronald> MilhousePunkRock I'm asking. What is it youre saying
[01:52] <tachyon> kane__: it works! I needed to add the port number
[01:52] <tachyon> you have done a good deed for today
[01:53] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi slow-motion
[01:53] <slow-motion> hi MilhousePunkRock
[01:55] <sF|Xemanth> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php <- Why they must change repo url when new version comes? Its hard tocorrect new line to sources.list everytime when amarok updates
[01:55] <Healot> isn't it ironic, i a m still using windows xp
[01:55] <abattoir> sF|Xemanth: use the amarok-latest link
[01:56] <abattoir> sF|Xemanth: http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/
[01:56] <sF|Xemanth> uuh nice
[01:57] <abattoir> sF|Xemanth: or http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-stable/ if you want only 'stable' ones
[01:58] <sF|Xemanth> http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ <- thats good
[02:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to replace the logout/shutdown selection screen? The one with the dragon on the moon...
[02:02] <Hawkwind> He gets mad if you call him a dragon.  His name is 'Konqi'
[02:02] <Hawkwind> Phazeman: Long time no see!
[02:02] <abattoir> hehe
[02:02] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: the file you need to replace is /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shutdownkonq.png
[02:02] <Phazeman> woot Hawkwind
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, since I haven't seen any penguins around here, I don't want any DRAGONS either...
[02:03] <cotroler> Any one recommends a good mp3 player for linux similar to winamp in windows???
[02:03] <Phazeman> Hawkwind: how are you man ?? what are you doing here ?
[02:03] <Hawkwind> Phazeman: I'm doing well.  About to go back to bed, only woke up for a few minutes.
[02:04] <lowercase> cotroler: xmms or beep-media-player
[02:04] <abattoir> cotroler: xmms
[02:04] <Phazeman> Hawkwind: i mean in this channel :)
[02:04] <Hawkwind> Phazeman: I run Kubuntu now.  I've left Mandriva 100%
[02:04] <cotroler> tnx
[02:04] <Phazeman> Hawkwind: welcome to the club ;))))
[02:04] <Hawkwind> cotroler: Or audacious which is newer and more maintained
[02:05] <Hawkwind> Phazeman: Thanks.  I even stepped down as an op about a month ago there
[02:05] <Phazeman> Hawkwind: my linux machine is dead for about 2 weks.. so playing with lice cd for now
[02:05] <Hawkwind> Phazeman: I do still build rpms for http://SeerOfSouls.com/ since I still have Mandriva on the server.  I'll be changing that soon and put Mdv on a spare box
[02:05] <Phazeman> have problems to convert from win because of my film scanners and stuff
[02:05] <Phazeman> once i'll be able to handle all that i will transfer this machine to kubuntu
[02:08] <Hawkwind> Phazeman: Very nice.  I'm very happy with it so far
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> dek_aik: I don't have that folder kmserver
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, it's called kSmserver... That one I have :-)
[02:09] <abattoir> ksmserver
[02:09] <Phazeman> Hawkwind: been running it for about 1.5 years for now
[02:09] <abattoir> though i think its not what you are looking for :P
[02:10] <Phazeman> Hawkwind: i think it's cooler then the other thing. more stable. less problems, compatibility, gui, apt, etc...
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> dek_aik: But that is only the picture, I want to change the entire window that opens when I click logout in the kmenu
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> hey kbrooks|school, Kyle!
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Indeed you are right...
[02:12] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: :). Time to hack :P
[02:12] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Does that mean it's not as easily exchangeable as the KDM screen?
[02:13] <aaron_> just installed kernel 686-smp, how do i tell if both my processors are being used??
[02:13] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not so important that I would spend much time about it...
[02:13] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: afaik, yes, its not 'exchangeable' :)
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, than I am only going to replace the picture...
[02:15] <cotroler> How do you install .deb files in kubuntu?
[02:15] <Firebird8> when everi i control alt backspace.. shutdown fails.. why??
[02:17] <dek_aik> i updated superkaramba today and it needed xmms..is it normal?
[02:18] <Healot> cotroler: (sudo) dpkg -i file
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I change the permissions on a file?
[02:19] <tachyon> check the chmod command
[02:19] <Healot> chmod
[02:19] <Healot> twos style, octal or chmod options (something like +r -x etc)
[02:19] <dek_aik> Firebird8: was it Control-Alt-Del or Control-Alt-Backspace?
[02:20] <tachyon> "man chmod" first
[02:20] <abattoir> dek_aik: i guess its normal...
[02:20] <Firebird8> dek_aik, contrl alt backspace....
[02:21] <dek_aik> Firebird8: so you want to shut X not the system..right
[02:22] <Firebird8> dek_aik, no.. after i ctrl alt backspace i login and all then when in KDE and try to shut down it fails
[02:23] <dek_aik> abattoir: So there is a change in superkaramba then, it didnot ask xmms before, at least the first time i installed it
[02:24] <dek_aik> Firebird8: maybe you just login with diff user with no access to shutdown?
[02:25] <Firebird8> dek_aik, heres the problem.. when i go to the shutdown the system hangs with a black screen
[02:26] <abattoir> dek_aik: are you compiling it or installing from the repos?
[02:26] <dek_aik> abattoir: from the repo..that is why i think its weird
[02:27] <abattoir> dek_aik: does it install it or 'recommend'?
[02:28] <abattoir> *'recommend' it?
[02:31] <dek_aik> abattoir: it installed (along with xmms of course)..btw, the superkaramba is from kde 3.5.3 (it is in diff repo from default kubuntu)..maybe caused it
[02:32] <TheInfinity> one question ... alsa should work the way that many programs can use one sound card - right?
[02:33] <xwolf-> i'm having a problem with amarok, it won't play .mid files
[02:33] <Soyburg> I got a new tft monitor which has a native resolution of 1600x1200.  I installed Kubuntu with my old monitor which had a max resolution of 1280x1024.  How do I get Kubuntu to give me 1600x1200 in the system settings?  Preferably without reinstalling?
[02:34] <TheInfinity> kde system settings @ Soyburg
[02:34] <Hawkwind> abattoir: For your entertainment:  http://www.seerofsouls.com/channelstats/kubuntu.html
[02:34] <Soyburg> TheInfinity: errmm.. no.  I only get 1280x1024, which is what the old monitor had as a maximal resolution in the system settings.
[02:35] <cotroler> My sister has Pentium 3 256mb ram 80gb harddisk ... is kubuntu good for her????????
[02:35] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hehe, lol :D
[02:35] <xwolf-> perhaps adding 1600x1200 to xorg.conf?
[02:35] <TheInfinity> then you can change the "driver" in kde system settings
[02:35] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i even beat ubotu :P
[02:36] <xwolf-> cotroler yeah, it's fine
[02:36] <dek_aik> cotroler: my lappie is P3 256 30 Gig..its OK
[02:36] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Heh.  Seems you're out doing most of us :)
[02:36] <Soyburg> xwolf:  good idea.  would that be /etc/X11/config/cf/xorg.cf?
[02:36] <xwolf-> Soyburg /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <Soyburg> thanks
[02:36] <abattoir> Hawkwind: times are UTC?
[02:37] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I believe so
[02:37] <xwolf-> don't thank me yet
[02:37] <xwolf-> what do i need to play mid files? amarok says it can't load it
[02:38] <Soyburg> have you got a mid library?
[02:38] <xwolf-> dont know ><
[02:38] <abattoir> Hawkwind: "abattoir  asks a lot of questions ?  1118"<--- inteeresting :PP
[02:39] <dek_aik> abattoir: in my case, what apt-get command to remove xmms while keeping superkaramba..i dont like xmms that much
[02:39] <Healot> apt-get remove xmms?
[02:39] <abattoir> dek_aik: 'sudo apt-get remove xmms'
[02:40] <abattoir> dek_aik: but if superkaramba is built to depend on it, superkaramba would go as well...
[02:40] <dek_aik> abattoir: in my case, that would remove xmms and superkaramba..exactly
[02:40] <abattoir> dek_aik: guess you'll have to live w/ xmms, ;)
[02:41] <abattoir> dek_aik: or you could try an unofficial deb from kde-look.org....
[02:42] <dek_aik> abattoir: :))
[02:43] <Healot> there's a distro named aegean?
[02:43] <AegeanLinux> Soz 'bout that peoples
[02:44] <AegeanLinux> No, but there is one caleed AegeanLinux :D
[02:44] <Soyburg> xwolf, I just googled and it appears that there is no midi plugin for xine (which amarok uses) yet.  So maybe the answer to your question is, that amarok just doesn't play midi.
[02:44] <dek_aik> abattoir: ill try...the apt-cache show command doesnot say any dependencies on xmms..i know a trick to zap the dependencies from deb but in this case it cant be applied
[02:44] <AegeanLinux> capital A capital L
[02:44] <AegeanLinux> or ALI for short ;)
[02:44] <abattoir> dek_aik: modifying the control file?
[02:44] <AegeanLinux> #aegeanlinux Healot
[02:44] <Healot> bebe
[02:45] <TheInfinity> hmm
[02:45] <Healot> I am ubuntunized/debianized
[02:45] <dek_aik> abattoir: yes..i use it to install skype once
[02:45] <AegeanLinux> :D My job is to convert - try me .
[02:45] <AegeanLinux> (jokes)
[02:45] <abattoir> dek_aik: yes, that might do the trick :)
[02:46] <TheInfinity> anyone here who knows ALSA a litte bit / knows how to mix audio streams von several programs to 1 sound card?
[02:47] <dek_aik> abattoir: like i said in this case it cant be applied because the control file soesnt say that it depends on xmms.....
[02:48] <dek_aik> abattoir: sorry got to go..ill catch up later
[02:48] <abattoir> dek_aik: ok
[02:48] <dek_aik> abattoir: wifes calling
[02:49] <abattoir> dek_aik: go fast then :P
[02:52] <abattoir> Hawkwind: thanks for the interesting read :)
[02:53] <espace> i
[02:53] <espace> please  iwouldlike use squid
[02:53] <espace> with ubuntu
[02:54] <espace> someone know how install correctly ?
[02:54] <espace> #ubuntu-fr
[02:56] <Hawkwind> abattoir: No problem.  You can bookmark it if you want to check it periodically.  It updates every day at 1am CST
[02:56] <tachyon> bye4now
[02:57] <abattoir> Hawkwind: ok, thanks :)
[02:57] <Healot> espace: try to set your browser connection proxy to your squid server address, if you can see the pages on the net, then it works?
 nothing
[03:02] <espace> yes he work it !
[03:03] <Healot> dreamworks?
[03:06] <quattromaggio> ola
[03:07] <quattromaggio> i have the problem
[03:07] <Healot> ola
[03:07] <Healot> if you prefer to speak spanish
[03:07] <Healot> !es
[03:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:08] <Healot> stay here for English :_)
[03:08] <espace> how i can find other canl please
[03:08] <espace> cananl
[03:08] <espace> canal
[03:09] <abattoir> espace: in which language?
[03:09] <espace> fr
[03:09] <abattoir> !fr
[03:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:09] <Healot> #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es
[03:09] <espace> merci thanks gracias Saha terimakashi ....
[03:12] <Pee_wee_Herman> hi ppl. where is the respos.d directory in kubuntu ?
[03:12] <Pee_wee_Herman> comming from a fed background you see
[03:12] <abattoir>  /etc/apt/sources.list if you mean the file which contains the list of repos
[03:14] <Pee_wee_Herman> thanks.. now which respos to add to install xgl ?
[03:15] <Healot> !find xgl
[03:15] <ubotu> Found: python-wxglade, xserver-xgl
[03:16] <Healot> !info xserver-xgl
[03:16] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In repository universe, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1584 kB, installed size 4384 kB
[03:16] <Healot> !find compiz
[03:16] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-gnome, compiz-kde
[03:16] <gatekeeper> Pee_wee_Herman: also: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[03:16] <Pee_wee_Herman> ok whats all that meen ?> is it the repos that i need to add to the list in-able to install xgl via apt-get ?
[03:17] <gatekeeper> Pee_wee_Herman: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:17] <gourdin> hi
[03:17] <gourdin> where is the 3.5.4 repo ? ;)
[03:18] <abattoir> gourdin: has it been announced?
[03:18] <gourdin> suse packages are out
[03:18] <emonkey-p> afaik not
[03:19] <emonkey-p> I'll see
[03:19] <gourdin> http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/suse-101-kde-354-available/
[03:19] <gourdin> just wondering if some test repo exists
[03:20] <emonkey-p> it exists but it's not accessible now, plz have some patient
[03:21] <emonkey-p> it will be in here too : http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/
[03:21] <abattoir> gourdin: wait for it to be announced :)
[03:22] <gatekeeper> gourdin: does 3.5.4 have something you really need?
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> gourdin: Two or 3 days I would guess (I cant dist-upgrade my laptops debian sid because only a little bit of its there) kubuntu is usually a day or so behind that
[03:39] <Nickay> hi
[03:39] <h3sp4wn> hi
[03:40] <AegeanLinux> night all
[03:40] <Hotwire>  hi, how would i go about working out what driver my usb wireless network adapter uses, i need to find out if it uses ndiswrapper or has a real driver, and if it has a real driver what kernel module it uses and what its called
[03:41] <Agios> !wireless
[03:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> Hotwire: Who makes it (is it branded card)
[03:41] <Nickay> i am trying to update some video decodes but i am not able to find any package with decodes.
[03:41] <Agios> Nickay: w32codecs
[03:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Hotwire: You answered all questions yourself already... ;-)
[03:41] <Nickay> thanks agios
[03:43] <Hotwire> h3sp4wn, its a Belkin F5D6050 802.11b Adapter
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> Hotwire: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[03:43] <Nickay> agios: there isn't any package with this name?
[03:43] <MilhousePunkRock> !info gimptool
[03:43] <ubotu> Package gimptool does not exist in dapper
[03:44] <Agios> Nickay: one sec
[03:44] <Nickay> ok
[03:44] <Hotwire> h3sp4wn, thanks, now i know i dont have to use ndiswrapper
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> Hotwire: Well looking at the list there are 3 revisions of that card only one of which requires ndiswrapper
[03:45] <Agios> Nickay: that is the correct package name and it does exist. You may need to open up your apt sources for universe and multiverse.
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> Hotwire: No actually   http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/news.html (it should just be working)
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> Hotwire: run /sbin/ifconfig -a
[03:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone happen to know in which package "gimptool" is included?
[03:47] <Hotwire> thanks h3sp4wn, now all i have to do this get this going in debian sarge :P
[03:47] <Pee_wee_Herman> does xgl work with kde ... im following instructions.. got to edit the gdm file and havent got it on my system /? any help would be cool
[03:48] <Pee_wee_Herman> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[03:48] <Pee_wee_Herman> sudo cp /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom-backup
[03:48] <Pee_wee_Herman> sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[03:48] <Nickay> Agios: HOw can i do this? I am new user with linux and ubuntu!!! Thanks
[03:49] <Hotwire> Pee_wee_Herman, iirc gdm is the gnome login manager, kdm is the kde version
[03:50] <Pee_wee_Herman> so i JUST NEED TO EDIT THE KDM FILE INSTEAD ?
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> Pee_wee_Herman, compiz compiz-gnome compiz-kde xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa libglitz-glx1 gconf-editor xmodmap
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> Have you installed all of those ?
[03:52] <Pee_wee_Herman> do i need the compiz-gnome when im using kubuntu ?
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> Pee_wee_Herman, yes, cause i think gnome-window-decorator is in it.
[03:54] <Pee_wee_Herman> ok well the answer is no then... installing the compiz-gnome now
[03:55] <Pee_wee_Herman> ok all installed now , whats next ?
[03:56] <Jack1> how do i enable sounds for xchat?
[03:56] <Agios> Nickay: Here is a post on LFD forums to help you set up ne apt-sources: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=29391074716aa01babbab1b492252687&topic=545.msg1221#msg1221
[03:56] <Jack1> kde-look as no sounds and by default there were no xchat sounds installed
[03:57] <|lostbyte|> Jack1, Sounds you mean like beep and stuff when you get messages ?
exactly
when u work on several desktops u dont even see that u were addressed
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> Jack1, Have you added sounds to the preference window ..
[04:01] <danl> ignornig the use of yuake and a cli irc client combo, is there any irc client that has functionality like yuake?
i have there ticked "sound playing method"=automatic ;
[04:02] <Nickay> is there any list of kubuntu repositories ?
in xchat setttings preferences
[04:03] <|lostbyte|> yes, and have you added sound files..
[04:03] <|lostbyte|> cause they are empty by default..
well in the folder are none..thats why i asked where i could get them
[04:04] <Agios> Nickay: see my message above. The first 4 sources in that list are the important ones.
where can i steal them
[04:05] <|lostbyte|> Jack1, there are some here.. /usr/share/sounds/
[04:05] <Nickay> I didnt see it. Thanks Agios for ur help.
[04:06] <|lostbyte|> ;)
[04:06] <|lostbyte|> No Problemo..
[04:06] <eeos> hi there I have serious problems with cups on 6.06
[04:06] <Jack1>  <|lostbyte|>i see but no xchat specific...
[04:06] <Agios> Nickay: just use the 1st 4 groups and #comment the remaining. That will give you access to most of the stable universe.
[04:10] <|lostbyte|> not that i know of.
[04:13] <tachyon_> bye all
[04:15] <slavo> how to disable wine postscript driver "wineps.drv"  ? it print postscript to my raw printer , thanks
[04:16] <slavo> ?
[04:16] <slavo> please
[04:17] <slavo> help
[04:17] <slavo> it is very important for me
[04:27] <firepol> hi, id like to istall kubuntu dapper using reiserfs for my / partition. i see its possible to use different filesystems: ext3, xfs... but not reiserfs. why is that?
[04:29] <drbreen_> firepol: it is possible you just have to format it as reiserfs before installing
[04:29] <firepol> the partition tool doesnt let me format in reiserfs... for what ive seen
[04:30] <firepol> well, ill tra just now on a laptop and see
[04:30] <BluesKaj> I was informed that debian based ubuntu uses ext , I tried to use reiserf partitions but the install prevented that by leaving ext options only
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> You can use reiserfs from the alternative cd (or at least you could last time I tried it)
[04:31] <firepol> i installed hoary a long time ago using reiserfs
[04:31] <firepol> oh no, so i must redownload another iso image
[04:34] <danielknobe> how can i mount .iso or .mdf under linux like in daemon tools under windows?
[04:35] <firepol> did i miss something (disconnected)
[04:35] <galorin> danielknobe, mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint at the command line is how I do it.
[04:36] <galorin> might be other ways, but that's pretty straightforward
[04:36] <supernix> does anyone know a way to get easy ubuntu to download all the stuff to install on a PC not connected to the net
[04:36] <supernix> ?
[04:37] <firepol> easy, as downloading the iso file from www.kubuntu.org u mean?
[04:37] <supernix> nah
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> supernix: You can use apt-proxy to download the entire archive
[04:37] <supernix> there is a program called easyubuntu
[04:38] <supernix> using the program you can install many goodies automatically and it will also make changes to the system like enabling support for non free programs
[04:39] <supernix> like libdvd for reading encrypted dvds
[04:39] <firepol> as h3sp4wn says, try apt-proxy
[04:39] <supernix> hmm ok thanks for the heads up
[04:39] <gemidjy> damn, why I don't have the Insert->Movie and Sound menu in OpenOffice Impress? DO u?
[04:39] <firepol> if its not even conencted, ud like to find a way to burn all the stuff on a cd...
[04:39] <firepol> ...but i guess it wont be so easy...
[04:40] <supernix> yeah that is the problem I face because the certain system I am talking of does not have a phone line to it
[04:41] <supernix> I figured I would download the stuff then work on installing it to the system
[04:41] <firepol> supernix, check online tutorials or howtos to create a repository on a cdrom
[04:41] <supernix> It would be replacing a Win95 system so I know they will love it
[04:41] <firepol> thwen copy all the stuff on the cd anc create the Packages.gz accordingly$
[04:41] <supernix> hmmmm
[04:41] <firepol> then edit the sources.list and point it to the cdrom containing all your custom debs
[04:41] <supernix> great idea firepol I could even write to a dvd :D
[04:42] <firepol> well i dont know if its easy
[04:42] <firepol> but there should be a tool to create a custom cd or dvd
[04:42] <MilhousePunkRock> gemidjy: I don't have it either...
[04:42] <supernix> I have a nice 5mbps cable modem so downloading should be quick
[04:42] <gemidjy> MilhousePunkRock: thanks, oo sux big time
[04:43] <MilhousePunkRock> No, gemidjy
[04:43] <gemidjy> yes it does
[04:43] <MilhousePunkRock> No it does not
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> supernix: If you use apt proxy you can put the whole archive onto a usb2 disk and tell apt to use that
[04:44] <gemidjy> compare a MS Office user he makes presentations in no time, and I fight with OO Impress like 1 hour and I will play the file externally now
[04:44] <firepol> ive just installed a crappy windows xp on a laptop, it doesnt install office 2003. its so crappy
[04:44] <supernix> thanks h3sp4wn
[04:44] <firepol> hopefully i reserved a 4 gb partition to kubuntu ;)
[04:45] <gemidjy> MilhousePunkRock: ok, for all other things than sound and other mm files within OO.org documents, OO.org is better
[04:46] <MilhousePunkRock> gemidjy: It's an Office program, not a toy.. I have never needed sounds in any OOo documents
[04:47] <gemidjy> MilhousePunkRock: do u think I need toys?
[04:47] <cristiano> people i need urgent help!!!
[04:47] <cristiano> i am now on ubuntu live coz my installation seems to have something wrong
[04:48] <MilhousePunkRock> What would you need sounds for in a document?
[04:48] <galorin> cristiano, what's going wrong?
[04:48] <cristiano> i had the last updates this morning and now when starting kubuntu after the login page i-m redirected again to login, again and again
[04:48] <gemidjy> MilhousePunkRock: I just do
[04:49] <cristiano> tried also the not graphical login, it is successuful but when doing startx it tells me that the /dev/wacom is not present!!!
[04:49] <cristiano> i never had anything called wacom before, i dunno what it is
[04:49] <cristiano> pls help i don-t wanna reinstall everything
[04:50] <galorin> cristiano, wacom is a digitizer tablet.. got one connected?
[04:50] <MilhousePunkRock> cristiano: That's for a graphics tablet, X creates config for it by default (I don't know why though)
[04:50] <cristiano> but i dont have it!
[04:50] <MilhousePunkRock> You can comment everything in your xorg.conf our that refers to wacom
[04:50] <cristiano> why X should not start so_
[04:50] <MilhousePunkRock> should be 3 sections
[04:50] <mcscruff> lo all, im using latest madwifi svn for my card, and it appears in iwconfig, but i cant connect to myap eventho network manager see's it
[04:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe you don't have another pointing device setup, cristiano
[04:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Try reconfiguring your x, cristiano
[04:51] <cristiano> MilhousePunkRock: how to do so
[04:51] <mcscruff> cristiano: are u using kubuntu or a distro based on ubuntu?
[04:52] <cristiano> mcscruff: kubuntu
[04:52] <MilhousePunkRock> I will have to look up the command for you, one moment, cristiano
[04:52] <mcscruff> cristiano: when using nubuntu i had that problem, i just chmod 777 /tmp and it all worked
[04:52] <cristiano> it happened suddenly, i dunno what should have caused this
[04:53] <cristiano> mcscruff: u are talking about login redirecting to login page each time
[04:53] <MilhousePunkRock> cristiano: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:53] <MilhousePunkRock> run that on the shell
[04:53] <MilhousePunkRock> it will ask you about mouse keyboard and video, you will have a working xorg.conf when you are done
[04:54] <cristiano> ok i have to restart the pc to do so, pls cross fingers! :)
[04:54] <galorin> couldn't what cristiano is trying to do be done in chroot?  darn missed him
[04:55] <danielknobe> do u think ati will get better drivers?? AMD has bought Ati.
[04:57] <galorin> That would be nice.. but I'd still probably stick with nvidia...
[04:57] <danielknobe> me 2^^
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> mcsruff: rebuild wpa_supplicant with the headers from madwifi ng (instead of madwifi-old) or just set it up from /etc/network/interfaces (driver wext)
[04:57] <danielknobe> i mean open-source support for drivers
[04:58] <danielknobe> AMD and NVidia are good friends, in the past...
[04:58] <danielknobe> was
[04:58] <danielknobe> hope they will open some specifications and help the OS drivers to be better
[04:59] <danielknobe> than we do not need any prop. dirver, i hope so
[05:00] <drbreen_> this ati NDA open source driver thing is evil
[05:00] <drbreen_> i believe ati would get big if they open specs
[05:01] <drbreen_> drivers would be ULTRA
[05:01] <drbreen_> hope amd believes that, too
[05:07] <danielknobe> when ati opens the drivers, nvidia will open the drivers, too. AMD did much for Linux in the past (the kerneldeveloper-centrum for amd64 etc. ...)
[05:08] <danielknobe> ati suxx a bit, but with AMD i think all will be good
[05:08] <Bazzi> there is still hope...
[05:08] <Agios> don't hold your breath waiting for ATI or NVidia to open their driver specs. Just not going to happen.
[05:09] <trappist> they're both afraid the other will sue their pants off for intellectual property infringement if they do
[05:09] <Bazzi> which is BS
[05:09] <trappist> not necessarily
[05:09] <Bazzi> since they sue *each other*
[05:09] <Bazzi> so they could just settle it in advance
[05:10] <trappist> not really
[05:10] <BluesKaj> AMD is swallowing ATI
[05:10] <danielknobe> AMD and NVidia were very cooperative in the past
[05:11] <BluesKaj> deal goes thru very soon...gonna leave NVidia all by their lonesome
[05:11] <Bazzi> well intel will be the most open player soon so it seems
[05:11] <BluesKaj> Dell is buying more AMD CPU's and chips
[05:11] <danielknobe> intel is not a fair player
[05:12] <BluesKaj> intel and MS ...twins when it come sto marketing scruples... they don't have any !
[05:13] <danielknobe> big stores like saturn etc... have a pakt, that they sell ONLY intel and no amd
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> same for dell, danielknobe and BluesKaj
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Intel forces them not to use/sell AMD chips...
[05:14] <will> who are they forcing?
[05:14] <Agios> I expect to see Nvidia excell in this enviornment and Intel will help. The AMD/ATI deal was a bad idea. Well, not entirely, ATI might keep AMD afloat now.
[05:14] <danielknobe> hmm its a point of view, intel says, that saturn (for example) get very high reduction of the price
[05:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Intel forces e.g. Dell to use their chips... Ever seen a Dell with an AMD core?
[05:14] <danielknobe> but if saturn sells amd, the don't get the reduction
[05:14] <danielknobe> it's like forcing
[05:15] <danielknobe> ever see a saturn pc with amd core?
[05:15] <MilhousePunkRock> If you buy a prebuild PC at saturn, it's your own fault...
[05:15] <danielknobe> i don't like intel because of such a strategy
[05:15] <danielknobe> LOL thats true
[05:15] <danielknobe> ^^
[05:16] <danielknobe> i don't buy, but a other do, because he have no idea
[05:17] <danielknobe> i use amd and nvidia since i'm 8 years old^^
[05:17] <BluesKaj> I bought my pc at Future Shop/BestBuy cuz they had the best price on the pc I was looking for ..np geting AMD or Intel in the same store
[05:18] <danielknobe> intel don't controll the total market^^. now. but a big piece of it
[05:19] <MilhousePunkRock> you are not older than 16, are you, danielknobe?
[05:19] <marciofalvo> How can i change the locale settings of ubuntu server to LANG=pt_BR
[05:19] <marciofalvo> ?
[05:20] <danielknobe> sry im not registered user, but please argument your conclussion milhouse
[05:21] <danielknobe> btw. it's illegal what intel do, and they have many charge
[05:21] <danielknobe> s
[05:23] <Echodrive> woot finally got java running on dapper!
[05:23] <cristiano> guys no solution at all
[05:23] <cristiano> still having that problem even after reconfiguring X
[05:24] <danielknobe> x don't start?
[05:24] <cristiano> pls help me, i dunno what to do now :(((((
[05:25] <cristiano> danielknobe: the prob is that after login each time i am redirected to login page
[05:25] <cristiano> i tried from console and then doing startx and it gives me a prob with a wacom device while i dont have any tablet pc connected!
[05:25] <dek_aik> cristiano: edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment out wacom?
[05:26] <cristiano> dek_aik: done no success at all
[05:26] <danielknobe> puh
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> danielknobe: That was just a joke actually...
[05:26] <cristiano> the strange weird thing is that everything happened suddenly after the update of this morning
[05:27] <cristiano> pls suggest me somthing to do, i-m going mad :(
[05:27] <lhds> how to know what version is x11?
[05:27] <dek_aik> cristiano: i believe you updated xserver-xorg and xorg.conf being rewriiten anew
[05:27] <danielknobe> drapper?
[05:28] <dhq> i cant seem to play mp3 or any music i can only hear system sound
[05:28] <dhq> no music
[05:28] <danielknobe> u need a .mp3 player
[05:28] <RadiantFire> dhq: trying installing libxine-extracodecs
[05:28] <danielknobe> like amarok with plugin
[05:28] <danielknobe> vlc
[05:28] <cristiano> dek_aik: dunno, do u remember which were the updates of today?
[05:28] <RadiantFire> or try libxine1c2a or something like that
[05:28] <danielknobe> je
[05:29] <lhds> what is the comand under terminal to know what version of x.org i am running?
[05:29] <cristiano> sigh i dont want to reinstall everything but it looks like its gonna be like that....DAMN!
[05:30] <dek_aik> cristiano: i had similar problem in the past but with the comment out wacom it works..
[05:30] <danielknobe> do u use the defaultof dapper?
[05:31] <cristiano> i commented out dek but no solution
[05:31] <larson9999> why the heck does the wacom get in there to begin with?  a bug?
[05:31] <cristiano> danielknobe: i am using pure kubuntu dapper
[05:31] <cristiano> larson9999: is what i-m wondering too!!!
[05:32] <cristiano> i dont have any tablet but suddenly i find this stupid wacom in xorg.conf...that-s ridicolus!
[05:32] <dek_aik> cristiano: it also happen that i needed to put the mouse in modules...but that was in breezy
[05:32] <larson9999> cristiano: after i installed i'm looking in there and thinking what's all this wacom crap.  i just deleted it.
[05:33] <cristiano> larson9999: first i commented out the wacom lines in xorg, but not working i just deleted them and no success again
[05:33] <galorin> cristiano, have you restarted the x server?
[05:33] <cristiano> yep galorin
[05:34] <dek_aik> cristiano: check you /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe it gives you more
[05:34] <cristiano> however this guys at repos should try everything before updating something that is harmful!
[05:34] <larson9999> cristiano: oh, i didn't mean to make things work.  you're having sound problems?  sounds like the same problem i've seen talked about in here a lot.
[05:34] <danielknobe> then u have 7.0 x.org
[05:35] <cristiano> ok ill log out from this Live and come back to kubuntu on hard drive
[05:35] <dek_aik> cristiano: did u also comment out wacom at the end of xorg.conf?
[05:35] <cristiano> yep dek, even in the server section
[05:35] <Shaezsche> the devide ID for my modem is 75776. it is an aztech chipset. how can i find out whcih driver i need?
[05:35] <cristiano> i try again, see ya later guys...lets hope to be from hard kubuntu
[05:40] <gbelli> hello everyone
[05:41] <MilhousePunkRock> part
[05:44] <Alcapond> Hi - I have successfully installed my first kubuntu system - now he does get any dhcp-address on eth0 - even though it says it is "enabled" - how can I check what the problem is? Thx
[05:48] <Alcapond> ah - does not get any dhcp-address of course :)
[05:48] <rotman> Hi, I have a server with a DVD-drive, and I want to be able to use that drive on my user-pc's, as if it where their local DVD-drive. Is it best to use NFS, or would it better to use NBD for that?
[05:49] <dek_aik> Alcapond: you mean it doesnt get a dhcp-address
[05:50] <Alcapond> dek_aik: No I do not get any ip-address - if I enter it manually I still do not get access to the net
[05:50] <dek_aik> Alcapond: does this new  kubuntu connected to a dhcp-server?
[05:51] <Alcapond> dek_aik: yes it is connected to my router, which gives the ip-adresses to the different machines
[05:51] <Alcapond> dek_aik: sorry - fon - back in 15 minutes...
[05:57] <cristiano> guys nothing to do
[05:57] <cristiano> still having prob
[05:57] <cristiano> i dunno what to do now
[05:58] <cristiano> i-ve tried loggin in as root from console and then doing startx
[05:58] <cristiano> it loads until starting loading the window manager and then it stucks
[05:59] <dek_aik> cristiano: just by any chance, do u have multiples sound cards?
[06:00] <cristiano> i have the onboard AC97 and a Plantronics USB headset
[06:00] <cristiano> but they worked nice
[06:00] <dek_aik> cristiano: i think those 2 cause it..try to disable the usb headset
[06:01] <cristiano> dek i have disconnected it and tried starting this way, but no success
[06:02] <cristiano> dek_aik: do u have anything else to suggest?
[06:03] <dek_aik> cristiano: i have 2 soundcards and it freeze everytime when star x at ksplash..you could try to rmmod the sound driver from konsole and try x..just a shot
[06:03] <cristiano> can u give me the exact command to use pls? thx
[06:04] <dek_aik> sudo rmmod snd_xxx ...find the snd_xx from lsmod|grep snd
[06:05] <sponix> I'm having an issue, the volume speaker Icon isn't in the panel anymore, and I'm trying to turn off the sound system && restart it.. Seems to be taking forever to restart the sound system
[06:05] <sponix> Anyone in here ever lost the volume Icon from the panel, and know how to make it return ?
[06:08] <Agios> sponix: just start up kmix
[06:09] <cristiano> dek_aik: and if this is not the main prob how can i restore sound then_
[06:09] <cristiano> ?
[06:10] <sponix> Agios:  wow, that was easy ... Thanks ;)
[06:10] <Alcapond> dek_aik: re
[06:11] <Agios> np
[06:12] <Alcapond> my problem again: my  fresh kubuntu installation does not want to connect to the net. It does not get a dhcp address from my router even though the router works fine. Network interfaces says: eth0 Enabled, but does not show an IP-Adress. If I enter an ip-address manually it does not help - the computer does not connect to the server. How can I find the problem? Thx!
[06:15] <dek_aik> Alcapond: start check your network setting in system settings
[06:16] <Alcapond> dek_aik: I cannot enter much there - it is set on: Automatic (dhcp) and is activated on start
[06:16] <Alcapond> dek_aik: it says state: enabled
[06:16] <Ace2006> Hi again, what apps should i use to rip a dvd to xvid?
[06:17] <Kr4t05> Ace2006: K3b, maybe?
[06:17] <Ace2006> Kr4t05: I thought that just burned them not rip them to xvid
[06:17] <Kr4t05> No clue
[06:17] <Ace2006> oh
[06:18] <Ace2006> well does anyone know?
[06:18] <dek_aik> Alcapond: try the administration mode maybe restart eth0 again
[06:19] <Alcapond> dek_aik: sorry - it seems to be a hardware problem with the plug - thx and sorry for false alert :)
[06:24] <Ace2006> Is it just me or is the repositories VERY SLOW i'm talking like ~3000b/s
[06:25] <Agios> I changed all of mine by pulling the us. out of them for that very reason.
[06:29] <rotman> How do I make my media players understand xvid, divx and such?
[06:31] <MilhousePunkRock> rotman: Get the appropriate codecs
[06:32] <Alcapond> ahm - how can I tell Adept Manager to look for software? It only shows my already installed packages... Thx
[06:33] <rotman> yeah.. that part I understood :) Any clues where I could look to find those?
[06:35] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia > rotman
[06:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe that helps?
[06:35] <rotman> i'll check it out, thanks
[06:35] <dek_aik> Alcapond: check the uninstalled
[06:36] <Alcapond> dek_aik: there are none - but I am not sure wether there are any repositories active - but I do not know how to check?!?
[06:37] <dek_aik> Alcapond: if you want more apps, comment out the universe and multiverse in you /etc/apt/sources.list and comment cdrom
[06:37] <Alcapond> dek_aik: ah - right button menu!
[06:37] <MilhousePunkRock> dek_aik: I finally looked at your hibernate.conf, does not look drastically different like mine... I guess it makes a difference that you have the IX/M and I got the C
[06:38] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: i agree with you..most probabbly
[06:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Too bad...
[06:39] <jatt> Following problem: 1) start gvim 2) maximize the window 3) try to restore the window => window remains maximized
[06:39] <Alcapond> dek_aik: ah getting it!
[06:39] <Alcapond> thx
[06:39] <jatt> is this a known problem? it happens with some applications. xterm works fine for example
[06:39] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: btw, have tried acpi option instead suspend2
[06:40] <z00m> greetings ;)
[06:40] <MilhousePunkRock> dek_aik: From what I read about my video chip, it doesn't even matter... It's the card and X not getting along with the current kernel
[06:41] <z00m> anyone got wine working on kubuntu amd64 ?
[06:43] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: to tell u the thruth, i rarely use hibernate cause it always fails to load my sound driver (snd_es1968) so the time took to fix that is the same with a reboot
[06:43] <galorin> ok.. I'm logged in as one user in konsole I'm `su anotheruser` how do I avoid the Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server ; Xlib: No protocol specified ; cannot connect to X server :0.0 error?
[06:43] <uniq> anyone know how i can save the video-brightness/contrast etc. settings in kaffeine permanently? Now I'll have to change the setting manually all the time.. and it sucks.
[06:43] <lens> in Gnome Synaptic there was a button called "fix dependency problems"... is there anything similar in KDE because I'm having dependancy problems and don't know how to fix them.
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> dek_aik: I dont have any hope before the 2.6.17 kernel...
[06:45] <dek_aik> MilhousePunkRock: still no luck with compiling?
[06:45] <MilhousePunkRock> I didn't try yet, since everyone warned me not to use the egdy kernel in a dapper enviroment...
[06:46] <uniq> lens: no, not graphical, as i'm aware of. however.. in konsole 'sudo apt-get -f install' should do the trick.
[06:46] <lens> uniq, cool, I'll try that. :)
[06:47] <andrisp> hello all, i have a problem with my kubuntu installation and hardware - my computer beeps on my actions. Why is that ?
[06:47] <uniq> lens: get back to me if you get more problems.
[06:47] <lens> uniq, thanks!
[06:49] <andrisp> I have another problem too - video and audo are messed up
[06:55] <dek_aik> anyone with a working kat? or katd for that matter?
[06:55] <aliasfred> dek_aik: nope but kitten which has the same purpose, has the advantage of being maintained
[06:56] <dek_aik> aliasfred: and kitten is in the repo i dont know this?
[06:59] <dek_aik> aliasfred: no it is not..link pls
[07:00] <pichi> hi
[07:05] <z00m> wine on the amd64 version of kubuntu ?
[07:05] <z00m> infact, forget it, ill just use windows for gamming!
[07:11] <lens> this is a newb question: but... what's the difference between i386, i586, i686 and AMD64... because I tried to install automatix and it said package archetexture i386 does not match system AMD64? am I SOL?
[07:12] <tsdgeos> lens: different cpus
[07:12] <uniq> lens: depends on the architecture you have. If you have installed a AMD64 system you can't automatix for i386, they are not compatible.
[07:13] <lens> yes I know, but i386 and i596 and i686 are different cpus because on my old 32 bit system all three worked.
[07:14] <tsdgeos> but amd64 is completely different from them
[07:14] <lens> so is it like i* is 32 bit and won't work with my 64 bit arch?
[07:14] <tsdgeos> and it seems that's what you have
[07:14] <uniq> lens: i686 is optimized for newer cpus. i386 is safest.
[07:14] <uniq> lens: correct.
[07:14] <uniq> lens: for 32bit to work on your 64bit setup you need a 32bit chroot.
[07:14] <uniq> !chroot
[07:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:15] <lens> ok, gotchya so does anyone know if there is a 64 bit version of automatix.
[07:15] <lens> chroot scares me, I guess I need to learn it though.
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I have a problem with adept that should have been fixed long ago: "
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> 2006-03-19 15:38:33 +0100
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock>  Hide notifier when no updates are available instead of showing green icon.
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> "
[07:16] <acojlo> I saw there was something like '64bit memory access' in new 2.6.18 kernels
[07:17] <acojlo> huh, There is second problem with adept-update-notifier. If you select a package to be 'hold' notifier will stay notify about updates for the package
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: How can I check if I put anything on hold? Not that I did that consciencely...
[07:19] <lens> it seems automatix comes in 64 bit... so I wiggled my way out of learning chroot today :-p
[07:22] <dek_aik> REGISTER <thariq>
[07:22] <acojlo> MilhousePunkRock: I think "dpkg --get-selections | grep hold" but, I'm not an expert
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: That seems to be a valid command, but it does not give any feedback...
[07:24] <acojlo> then you do not have packages on hold :)
[07:24] <dek_aik> anyone check #ubuntu its like a zoo!
[07:24] <acojlo> if you try command without "| grep hold" you will see big list
[07:25] <drbreen__> like a zoo ?
[07:25] <acojlo> yea, 3 times more people :)
[07:26] <dek_aik> yesterday someone said that its like NY Stock Exchange...i mean zoo is similar to that
[07:26] <acojlo> I saw problems with removing packages with adept, because sometimes remove cathes many packages
[07:26] <Agios> that kind of activity loses it's effectiveness
[07:26] <acojlo> noisy
[07:26] <acojlo> nyse - no effectiveness ???
[07:26] <dek_aik> taken from "in the line of fire"
[07:27] <Agios> acojlo: how effective is the NYSE to you persoanlly?
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: Well, none of the apps I could check were on hold...
[07:27] <acojlo> I live in Europe - Serbia and do not have money to play on nyse
[07:27] <Agios> so, none. same if you join a channel for help and can't get it because of the noise :)
[07:28] <acojlo> :)
[07:28] <dek_aik> Agios: well put
[07:29] <acojlo> what's the name for kubuntu kernel bug reports ?
[07:30] <acojlo> name or url location
[07:31] <scabootssca> haha weird sound started working when i restarted my computer on my soundblaster
[07:31] <scabootssca> card
[07:32] <scabootssca> i hope it heeps working though
[07:33] <mattttttt> is it possible to shrink the kubuntu partition after i've made it?
[07:33] <scabootssca> mabye with kparted
[07:33] <acojlo> is it safe to keep "some" source in adept repositories list. Will adept know which sources have credit for security or installed software?
[07:33] <scabootssca> gparted i mean
[07:34] <acojlo> mattttt: yes - it is but it can be a 'painfull'
[07:34] <mattttttt> hmmm
[07:34] <acojlo> i did it succesfully
[07:34] <acojlo> it's best to use your install cd
[07:34] <mattttttt> i see
[07:34] <mattttttt> well, how can i just delete it?
[07:34] <acojlo> then it's best to try with qtparted ot gtpatred. Anyway one of them is in menu line
[07:35] <mattttttt> i'll just delete it and reinstall it with a smaller partition
[07:36] <whiz_> hey guys, I'm two weeks into kubuntu, and i can't quite get my nvidia gf mx440 to work =(
[07:36] <whiz_> I've installed nvidia-glx
[07:36] <acojlo> try to "/join #nvidia"
[07:36] <whiz_> 10x =)
[07:36] <acojlo> or just click on blue channel name
[07:37] <whiz_> 10x did that acojlo =)
[07:37] <charlie5> whiz_: have you updated /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:37] <whiz_> i'm not sure...
[07:37] <whiz_> what has to be done?
[07:39] <charlie5> basically change "nv" to "nvidia" and maybe add/delete some lines in the modules section ... there are docs in /usr/shar/doc/nvidia, i think
[07:39] <whiz_> 10x i'll give it a try =)
[07:39] <acojlo> back it up first
[07:40] <charlie5> np :) ... yell out if it fon't work ;)
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[07:40] <snikker> how can run sanbo for non 'root' user?
[07:40] <acojlo> them know how to login in console mode and replace xorg.conf with backed one
[07:40] <snikker> samba
[07:40] <acojlo> new firefox is in repository
[07:40] <whiz_> lame question: how do i copy?
[07:40] <acojlo> 1.5.0.5
[07:40] <charlie5> cp
[07:41] <acojlo> "cp source destinantion"
[07:41] <whiz_> 10x
[07:42] <whiz_> ok, didit
[07:42] <whiz_> now edit
[07:43] <acojlo> hey people, today I got "Desert Rose" on my table. It's crystal flower from Sahara
[07:43] <charlie5> crystal flower ?
[07:43] <acojlo> Desert Rose
[07:44] <Lozzap> Hello all. Im using the live CD of Kubuntu to see if I can get Xgl to work,, Does anyone know of a good walkthrough or tutorial for me to follow ?
[07:44] <charlie5> :) ... whiz_ reboots ... will it work ??? ... ;)
[07:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Lozzap: Why don't you try Kororaa? That's a live CD with XGL
[07:45] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: Sand flower?
[07:46] <acojlo> how to browse my digital camera ?
 Do you have a link ?
[07:46] <acojlo> well it's crystals - not sand - probably lot of silicium
[07:46] <Lozzap> is it english based ?
[07:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Not yet, but soon, hang on, Lozzap
[07:47] <Lozzap> MilhousePunkRock Thanks ..
[07:47] <MilhousePunkRock> There you go Lozzap: http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203
[07:48] <Naosv> Lozzap this worked for me http://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/06/02/how-to-compizxgl-on-kubuntu-dapper-nvidia/
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: Silicon (not silicone) is pretty rare in the wild, afaik
[07:49] <acojlo> silicum was I writing about
[07:49] <acojlo> digikam package - is it good?
[07:49] <Lozzap> ok gonna grab the live cd... and try the tutorial with kubuntu and ati G card... anyway after 5 years of only using redhat/fedora/windows im very impressed with kubuntu
[07:50] <scott_> anyone help me change my refresh rate, have nvidia card with latest dapper drivers, 1280x1024 is locked at 60hz where as 1024x768 can go up to 75hz (which my monitor can support) my xorg config shows my refresh monitor set at: HorizSync	28-80 and VertRefresh	43-75 (which i got from my monitors manual), any help is much appreciated
[07:50] <dek_aik> acojlo: yes..should be installed by default
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: If you are referring to the chemical element Si, than it is in fact Silicon! Just like Silicon Valley... Not to be confused with silcone though...
[07:53] <MilhousePunkRock> What was that with IPv6 vs IPv4 on Konq again? Konqueror is awfully slow here...
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: By the way, none of us was entirely right... "Desert rose is the colloquial name given to rosette formations of the minerals gypsum and barite with sand inclusions."
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_rose_(crystal)
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Re slow-motion
[07:58] <slow-motion> re
[07:58] <slow-motion> hi MilhousePunkRock
[07:58] <ricardo> hi
[07:58] <ricardo> does anybody use MATLAB through WINE?
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> You don't give up ricardo...
[08:00] <ricardo> nop
[08:00] <ricardo> it seems like nobody uses MATLAB nomore!!
[08:00] <ricardo> i just need a little help MilhousePunkRock...
[08:00] <acojlo> MilhousePunkRock: thank you for the knowledge. And, see it for yourself - http://oblacak.blogspot.com/ :)
[08:00] <Lozzap> dont blame you..... if i could get dreamweaver 8 to work id use linux all the time.
[08:01] <ricardo> gurues help would be welcome!
[08:01] <trappist> dreamweaver 8 works fine in cxoffice
[08:01] <trappist> ricardo: there's a linux version of matlab iirc
[08:01] <Lozzap> i tried using it and dcom98 i think
[08:01] <Lozzap> never worked
[08:01] <Lozzap> for me
[08:01] <ricardo> i NEED to use the installed version in XP...
[08:01] <yamal> there sure is, matlab has been native lniux for a long time
[08:02] <scott_> no one help me with my refresh problem? :(
[08:02] <ricardo> i got it working but without the java virtual machine...
[08:02] <ricardo> even simulink works perfectly (for now...)
[08:02] <trappist> scott_: I know that the answer lies in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I've never messed with refresh rates
[08:02] <ricardo> but i really need direct access to the toolboxes..For that ..i need the jvm...
[08:03] <yamal> ricardo: what stops you from using linux based java?
[08:03] <scott_> trappist, well my settings worked at 75hz with my old ati card, since switched to nvidia its lokced me refresh raTE TO 60HZ AT THISR ES :(
[08:03] <scott_> trappist: sorry bout caps
[08:03] <charlie5> scott_: doesn't system settings hardware/display provide a selectable the 75 Hz option ?
[08:03] <ricardo> finally someone interested in my problem yamal....
[08:04] <scott_> charlie5: only for lower than my 1280x1024 res
[08:04] <ricardo> when i load matlab through wine it tilts with tons of java errors....
[08:04] <ricardo> i have to shut it down....
[08:04] <ricardo> so i uninstalled all jvms...
[08:04] <charlie5> scott_: just a sec ... i'll look at my xorg.conf
[08:04] <dhq> my adept is giving error and not opening  as i added a new repotosary can anyone help me fix it
[08:04] <scott_> charlie5: cheers
[08:05] <ricardo> and installed sun jvm as the kubuntu howto says...
[08:05] <ricardo> still nothing....same error....
[08:05] <dhq> my adept is giving error and not opening  as i added a new repotosary can anyone help me fix it
[08:05] <yamal> ricardo: don't load matlab through wine!
[08:05] <trappist> ricardo: you probably need to install a win32 jvm in wine
[08:06] <yamal> that would be the other option ;)
[08:06] <ricardo> trappist: im listening...
[08:06] <ricardo> i have already installed sun jvm under wine...
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: What about a little more info?
[08:06] <trappist> ricardo: that's all I have... grab a .exe from java.sun.com and install it with wine, and it should be available to matlab.
[08:06] <trappist> oh
[08:07] <ricardo> but matlab is on a NTFS partition...
[08:07] <trappist> ack
[08:07] <charlie5> scott_: does your xorg.conf have a line like  => modeline  "1024x768@75" ...
[08:07] <ricardo> i think one solution would be to install matlab through wine...
[08:07] <scott_> charlie5: nope
[08:07] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock:  well i just wen into reompotosay and added a new site over the and now the adept wont run
[08:08] <ricardo> i kinda bothers me to have 2 MATLABS installed.....(heavy soft)
[08:08] <ricardo> trappist:
[08:08] <trappist> ricardo: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=29
[08:08] <ricardo> let me seeeee...
[08:09] <charlie5> scott_: maybe try adding one ? ... before you do, can anyone confirm that playing with these setting cannot damage the monitor (i think they can, if you get them wrong)
[08:09] <scott_> charlie5: i know for a fact though my monitor can do 75hz at 1280x1024 as i do it in windows and did it with my old ati card in kubuntu
[08:09] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: any help
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> What's reompotodsay?
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> -d
[08:10] <charlie5> scott_: should be ok, then
[08:10] <scott_> do i add a modeline to my monitor or graphics card section?
[08:10] <dhq> well just open the adept
[08:10] <dhq> and chek under first option of tool bar
[08:11] <ricardo> trappist: yeap...i've been there....
[08:11] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: and chek under first option of tool bar
[08:11] <ricardo> there are NO answers whatsoever....
[08:11] <charlie5> scott_: under Section "Monitor"
[08:11] <scott_> kk, thanks, will try
[08:11] <ricardo> just one guy that got MATLAB 6 working with java....
[08:11] <ricardo> thats an old version..i have 2006a...
[08:11] <charlie5> scott_: i don't know what all the numbers after the bit in quotes are for though, sorry
[08:12] <scott_> ok
[08:12] <Alcapond> Hi, I have followed an instruction for setting up my pcmcia wlan card - unsing ndiswrapper. Now my Network Settings -> Network Interfaces say wlan0 Enabled Wireless Network Device - but still I do not get a connection. My question: how can I check wether the card got recognized correctly? I just want to ashure that card is working properly, before I check all the network settings over and over again (which I already did :)). Thx for help!
[08:13] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: plz help
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Alcapond: Type "ifconfig" on the shell
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: How can I help if I don't even understand what you say...
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: Did you run "sudo apt-get update" after you added the repo?
[08:13] <Alcapond> MilhousePunkRock:  ok, what should it say? It gives a long output for wlan0...
[08:13] <dhq> nope
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Alcapond: If wlan0 is there, it's at least been recognized...
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Do it, dhq! Do it!
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> (^^ what movie did I just quote?)  :-)
[08:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Alcapond: So I guess the drivers are set up properly...
[08:15] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: this is the error i get after typin that command E: Type 'http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:15] <MilhousePunkRock> That's not a repo dhq
[08:15] <Alcapond> MilhousePunkRock: plz tale a look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19113
[08:16] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: so what should i do
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> There you go, dhq.. That's the link to the info about the packages...
[08:16] <Raysonic> Hello, I just merely total newbie on Linux but I wonder how is different between Gnome and KDE? (I must say sorry for my newbie question)
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[08:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:16] <Kyral> Uhoh
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> This might help, dhq
[08:17] <Kyral> Raysonic: for the future, try to avoid asking that question
[08:17] <Kyral> Its known to start flamewars
[08:17] <Raysonic> ohh.. then oops sorry.
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Alcapond: Are you German? If yes --> #kubuntu-de
[08:17] <charlie5> scott_: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl ... this might help with the modeline
[08:17] <Kyral> Anyway its basically (like a LOT in the GNU/Linux world) a matter of personal opinion
[08:17] <ricardo> trappist: any other ideas?
[08:17] <Alcapond> MilhousePunkRock: ok, thx
[08:17] <Kyral> KDE came before GNOME and uses the Qt toolkit
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Serenity over in the german channels knows quite some stuff about wlan, Alcapond
[08:18] <scott_> charlie5: thank you for your help
[08:18] <Kyral> GNOME was created by the GNU Project in response to Qt's (then) non-Free license and uses GTK
[08:18] <Raysonic> Alright Thanks Kyral, and sorry for this question.
[08:18] <Kyral> Though that point is moot now and Qt is GPL
[08:18] <Kyral> Raysonic: its okay, just letting you know before you run into someone with a very strong opinion on the matter
[08:19] <Raysonic> yeah, I not think carefully myself.
[08:19] <Kyral> I have used practically every Desktop Environment and Window Manager there is, so I know a little about everything
[08:19] <Kyral> Like right now I run KDE on this machine and IceWM on my laptop
[08:20] <Raysonic> ok Thanks again.
[08:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Kyral: So what about e17, I keep on hearing it's "the bomb"...
[08:20] <Kyral> Try both and see what you like
[08:20] <Kyral> MilhousePunkRock:  I haven't used E17 in about 6 months so I bet its prolly changed a lot
[08:21] <Raysonic> Ok. thanks very much, Kyral
[08:21] <aseigo> Riddell: ping?
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> On my system KDE is just too sloooooooooooow... So I might look into e17, Kyral
[08:21] <Kyral> Yah thats one trait. KDE tends to be "bigger" than GNOME
[08:22] <Kyral> though I heard with the changes in Qt4 KDE 4 is gonna be quicker on the draw
[08:22] <aseigo> MilhousePunkRock: what sort of system do you have?
[08:22] <dhq> if i "vi a file" how do i save it after editting it
[08:22] <Kyral> :wq!
[08:22] <Kyral> look into vimtutor to learn more about using Vim
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1467 bogomips), , RAM: 245/248MB, 80 proc's, 2.8h up
[08:24] <Kyral> wow thats the first time I have been thanked in a quit
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> ^^ aseigo
[08:24] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.17-beyond running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1733 MHz (3468 bogomips), HD: 283/434GB, RAM: 984/1011MB, 92 proc's, 1.5d up
[08:24] <uniq> dhq: esc+ZZ (that is shift+zz).
[08:25] <aseigo> MilhousePunkRock: interesting. what aspects do you perceive as being slow?
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Loading times of programs... Not that it was any better in Winblows, but I actually expected a little more performance increase from Linux...
[08:25] <Riddell> aseigo: hi
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> I believe 256 MB RAM is too little for KDE, as you can see it's almost totally used...
[08:26] <aseigo> Riddell: strange thing ... installing koffice packages for dapper right now ends up giving me a kword/kspread/kpresenter that links against a (non-existent) qt4 =)
[08:26] <BELzEBUB> can sombody tell me why there are packages in adept which are marked grey and cant be installed?
[08:26] <aseigo> MilhousePunkRock: 256MB is fine.
[08:26] <Riddell> aseigo: spooky, what source?
[08:27] <aseigo> Riddell: i only have the ubuntu/kubuntu repos in my sources.list
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell as in Jonathan Riddell?
[08:28] <aseigo> Riddell: at first i thought, "did i install trunk/koffice into /usr???" so i uninstalled the debs via adept.. confirmed the binaries were gone... installed them again via adept and the binaries that were installed were linking to qt4.. and therefore not launching
[08:28] <aseigo> MilhousePunkRock: that's teh one
[08:29] <Riddell> MilhousePunkRock: hi
[08:29] <insanekane> aseigo: hi
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi Riddell!
[08:31] <Riddell> >ldd /usr/bin/kword  | grep qt
[08:31] <Riddell>         libqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0xb68fb000)
[08:31] <Riddell> aseigo: is that what you get?
[08:31] <aseigo> no... =) i wouldn't be bothering you if it was ;)
[08:31] <acojlo> MIllhousePunkRock: acctualy it's good if much of memory is not free, but most of it should be in disk cache
[08:32] <aseigo> aseigo@freedom:~/projects/kde3/kdelibs$ ldd /usr/bin/kword | grep Qt
[08:32] <aseigo>         libQtCore.so.4 => not found
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> acojlo: Does that in return mean, more RAM won't speed up my crappy rig?
[08:33] <Riddell> aseigo: what does `apt-cache policy kword` give you?
[08:34] <Riddell> aseigo: and what about `/usr/bin/kword --version`
[08:35] <aseigo> Riddell: well, that won't run of course since it can't link against qt4... i'm pastebin'ing the apt-cache output for you
[08:36] <acojlo> MilhousePunkRock: :))
[08:36] <aseigo> Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/104197
[08:36] <forkz> How to turn up the mic?
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Is that a yes or a no, acojlo?
[08:37] <acojlo> stop making me silly :) Ofcourse - more ram - more good :)
[08:37] <Riddell> aseigo: well I'm stuck, that's really not possible
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Is Konqueror needing ages to load web pages (on a 6 mbit DSL connection, Fx loads everything a lot faster) related to IPv6 somehow?
[08:39] <Ace2006> hi all can the live CD kubuntu play xvid files?
[08:39] <yamal> MilhousePunkRock: probably not since firefox also knows ipv6
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, but wasn't that the default on Konq? I heard IPv6 a lot of times when it was about Konqueror loading slow... I am not sure wether my ISP supports IPv6
[08:40] <Ace2006> Why are the repositories so slow?
[08:41] <yamal> MilhousePunkRock: most (all?) browsers will try v6 adresses first when enable in the operating system
[08:41] <yamal> but it will only slow you down unless you actually have good v6 connectivety
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> yamal: So how do I get rid of it?
[08:43] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: for konqueror/KDE you can set KDE_NO_IPV6=true in for example /etc/environment (effects all users).
[08:43] <yamal> or just disable it OS-wide... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> thx uniq and yamal, i will look at it
[08:46] <forkz> How to configure mit sound so i can use it with skype, teamspeak and gaming?
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Nice find yamal, but can you translate that into proper English? Not a big help when illiterates write how-tos
[08:48] <kbrooks> MilhousePunkRock: hi btw
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey kbrooks
[08:51] <yamal> MilhousePunkRock: just edit the "alias net-pf-10" line in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases... so it reads off instead of ipv6
[08:52] <ubuntu> hi
[08:52] <ubuntu> im having problems with my kubuntu instalation
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock> yamal: Yeah, I scrolled down on the thread a little more and there was another post of the topic starter, beginning with "Sorry for the sloppy post"
[08:53] <ubuntu> after preparing partitions, it will not detect the swap
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock> That helped
[08:54] <ubuntu> i have dev/hda1 ntfs windows
[08:54] <ubuntu> dev/hda2 extended
[08:55] <aseigo> Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/104216
[08:55] <ubuntu> dev/hda5 ext (i want that to be /)
[08:55] <ubuntu> dev/hda6 linux-swap
[08:55] <aseigo> Riddell: and `which kword` gives /usr/bin/kword (which is indeed what the package installed)
[08:55] <ubuntu> and dev/hda7 ext i want home there
[08:55] <aseigo> Riddell: the kdelibs package is fine ...
[08:55] <ubuntu> and kubuntu sees all that
[08:55] <ubuntu> but then click next
[08:56] <uniq> aseigo: i would recommend 'apt-get install --reinstall kword' kword from archive.ubuntu.com is fine.
[08:56] <ubuntu> and i see 20 gb  for win
[08:56] <Riddell> aseigo: but but but, it's impossible!
[08:56] <ubuntu> 6gb for /
[08:56] <ubuntu> 67 for /home
[08:56] <ubuntu> but no swap
[08:56] <ubuntu> and if i try to make swap it will only give it 1kb
[08:57] <ubuntu> how can i make space for swap?
[08:58] <aseigo> Riddell: heh.. i figured the same. very odd....
[08:58] <aseigo> uniq: that just installs the same broken package again =)
[08:59] <acojlo> o mami, o mami mami, .... i'm maybe your forgoten son, ... the house in shadow upon a hill, ... WHich song is this???
[08:59] <uniq> aseigo: are you sure? I just checked in a clean chroot, and i got the same output from ldd as riddel pasted earlier.
[08:59] <aseigo> uniq: positive. i event ran the command just to be doubly sure =)
[09:00] <imandir> hi everyone, I'm trying to compile qpxtool, it needs libqt3-mt-dev and I cann't install it. details on: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19119
[09:01] <uniq> aseigo: is this i386?
[09:01] <aseigo> uniq: yes
[09:01] <uniq> hang on... installing kword again in chroot.
[09:01] <aliasfred> wild guessing, check you got the same packagage with md5/sha1, and if not find out where the bogus package come from
[09:01] <aliasfred> ?
[09:02] <uniq> aseigo: you can use debsums to check that. probably need to install it first.. package name is 'debsums', syntax of the command is 'debsums kword'
[09:03] <uniq> (where that is what aliasfred just suggested)
[09:04] <aseigo> uniq: debsums report OK on all the files.
[09:05] <aseigo> the only non-standard entry in my sources.list is deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[09:05] <uniq> aseigo: as long as 'apt-cache policy kword' says archive.ubuntu.com that doesn't matter..
[09:05] <aseigo> everything else is straight ahead kubuntu dapper + multiverse
[09:06] <aseigo> yep... archive.ubuntu.com
[09:06] <forkz> I am trying to make my mic work whilr playing, and using Teamspeak. It doesn't seem to work. And in Skype i am very low
[09:06] <aseigo> and what's really, really odd is that if i "apt-get remove" the package the binaries are certainly not there ... and upon reinstall they are... so they aren't my binaries =)
[09:06] <uniq> aseigo: i am positive the package on archive.ubuntu.com is OK.
[09:06] <aseigo> (my == compiled from source... which i keep in /opt/kde4 anyways ;)
[09:07] <aseigo> ok .. so i'm going to assume the package is correct and ld is somehow getting fucke dup.
[09:08] <reagleBRKLN> hi, when i click an archive file, i want to browse it in konqueror, not have ark called, since i upgraded to 6.06, this hasn't happened...?
[09:08] <reagleBRKLN> how to restore the kio as the default?
[09:08] <Riddell> reagleBRKLN: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[09:09] <aseigo> hah!
[09:09] <reagleBRKLN> do i have to relogin?
[09:10] <aseigo> there was one stray lib in /lib (not particularly sure how it ended up there ;) which linked against another lib which linked into kde4. bleh.
[09:10] <uniq> :)
[09:11] <aseigo> makes having multiple installs of libs to try things out easier (used that the other day for testing a kicker fix, actually) but totally sucks when you inadvertently have multiple libs.
[09:12] <uniq> i'm glad apt/dpkg rocks. :)
[09:17] <bl3ssing> got a question: "How can I restart my Adept so that it won't come in read-only mode ...? I've tried to close it, which I've already done it. But ... when I'm starting again the Adept, the read-only mode's appearing again. What can I do?" CAN ANYONE ANSWER ME, PLEASE? Otherwise, I'll send Trovaldis to you all. :)
[09:18] <uniq> !adept crash fix
[09:18] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[09:18] <SpAwN> !restriceted
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about restriceted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:18] <SpAwN> !restricted
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:19] <uniq> !adept crash fix > bl3ssing
[09:19] <forkz> How to configure mit sound so i can use it with skype, teamspeak and gaming?
[09:21] <uniq> forkz: go to system settings -> sound and multimeida -> sound system - set the timeout (at the bottom) to a low value. 1-2 seconds or so.
[09:21] <forkz> uniq: alrready did... But still getting the sign that tells me that i've got no output or indput
[09:22] <uniq> forkz: ok,then i don't know. I don't do skype/teamspeak, nor gaming.
[09:22] <bl3ssing> uniq, got it. Now? :)
[09:22] <uniq> bl3ssing: now start adept.
[09:22] <bl3ssing> same thing.
[09:23] <uniq> bl3ssing: do you start it from the menu? are you a member of the admin group? does it ask for your password before going to read-only mode?
[09:24] <bl3ssing> when I got into the task manager windows by pressing Ctrl+Esc, I've tried to kill the adept and ... even I have 2 of them opened (not visible in my taskbar), I didn't manage to since I don't have enough rights ... what can I do?
[09:24] <bl3ssing> no uniq (it doesn't ask for a password)
[09:24] <uniq> bl3ssing: are you the user added during install?
[09:24] <bl3ssing> yeap
[09:24] <bl3ssing> uniq, you're right.
[09:24] <bl3ssing> :)
[09:25] <uniq> bl3ssing: ok, in konsole run this: 'sudo killall -9 adept'
[09:25] <uniq> that will kill all processes named 'adept'
[09:25] <uniq> and to be sure you can also run 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[09:26] <uniq> now you can start adept again.. if it doesn't ask for a password you might want to try alt+f2 'kdesu adept'.
[09:28] <drbreen_> my system thought it was tomorrow and i did sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org and everytime i try to use sudo i get "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 29 20:48:00 2006"
[09:29] <deuce_> anyone have any info on installing nvidia drivers? I try to install it with their drivers and it wants to do something to the kernel.
[09:30] <gatekeeper> !nvidia
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <bl3ssing> how can I check in console that adept is killed ... :)
[09:30] <uniq> drbreen_: try 'sudo -k'
[09:31] <boabsta> bl3ssing: type "ps -ef |grep adept"
[09:31] <deuce_> thanks gatekeeper - i will read this and see what i find out
[09:31] <gatekeeper> deuce_: hope it helps :-)
[09:31] <forkz> I am trying to make my mic work whilr playing, and using Teamspeak. It doesn't seem to work. And in Skype i am very low
[09:33] <deuce_> gatekeeper: ubuntu has this huge glorious wiki for help - do you know of any plans to rewrite it to make it kubuntu standards as well?
[09:33] <drbreen_> uniq: nils@ihopeyoustillrememberme:~$ sudo -k
[09:33] <drbreen_> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 29 20:48:00 2006
[09:35] <gatekeeper> deuce_: no, but I have noticed them modifying bits and pieces, I would imagine that it is just an ongoing project. Most of the stuff also relates to kubuntu anyway, as the only difference is the desktop
[09:36] <deuce_> ya
[09:36] <deuce_> and names like synaptic vs adept
[09:36] <deuce_> and things like that
[09:36] <uniq> drbreen_: try 'sudo -v' then.
[09:36] <deuce_> could really confuse the newbie (like me)  :-D
[09:37] <uniq> deuce_: wiki.kubuntu.org, atleast it's blue :)
[09:37] <drbreen_> uniq: nils@ihopeyoustillrememberme:~$ sudo -v
[09:37] <drbreen_> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 29 20:48:00 2006
[09:38] <uniq> drbreen_: gah..
[09:38] <drbreen_> uniq: i am afraid
[09:38] <drbreen_> uniq: raboot ?
[09:38] <drbreen_> err reboot typo
[09:40] <gatekeeper> deuce_: that is linux choice, something you will have to get use to, personally I prefer and use synaptic
[09:40] <deuce_> can one use synaptic on kde?
[09:40] <deuce_> what is the difference between the two?
[09:40] <gatekeeper> deuce_: yes
[09:41] <deuce_> or does it go to the argument of ext3 vs reifrias?
[09:41] <drbreen_> uniq:orked when i logged in again on virtuel console 6 and did sudo -v
[09:41] <gatekeeper> deuce_: they are both GUI package management systems, the interface are just a little different
[09:41] <deuce_> ohh, okay
[09:42] <gatekeeper> deuce_: have a look at the windows -> Ubuntu transition guide (plus other usefull links) here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[09:43] <acojlo> how to give a rename more than one file in Konqueror at once?
[09:44] <deuce_> gatekeeper - i have been on kubuntu for about a month now - but yesterday i broke something so i reloaded kubuntu
[09:44] <deuce_> but i will have a look
[09:44] <lhds>  guys to install and run tv i read ubuntu post about how to run a  saa7134 http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/saa7134 and i have downloaded the win4lin install and compile gtk things than it was said to type make to compile but i get an error similar to that in this post:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70359&highlight=video4linux+compile+error
[09:46] <gatekeeper> deuce_: back your system up: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[09:47] <deuce_> will read
[09:47] <deuce_> thnx
[09:47] <deuce_> need to reboot for nvidia driver
[09:49] <snikker_away> when i mount a remote resource with samba, only root can delete files, why?
[09:49] <gatekeeper> lhds: what happens if you just create the directory  /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-k8/build
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[09:50] <gatekeeper> snikker: sounds like you haven't set up the samba permissions correctly
[09:51] <snikker> gatekeeper: can you tell me how set it correctly?
[09:52] <gatekeeper> snikker: I am not a samba expert, however if you go K -> System Settings -> Sharing, you should be able to set things up properly in there
[09:53] <gatekeeper> !samba
[09:53] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:53] <snikker> gatekeeper: thanks
[09:53] <gatekeeper> snikker: failing that ^^^^
[09:53] <gatekeeper> snikker: yw :-)
[09:56] <wheezart> People do you know of any problems with nvidia gf4mx440 in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake?\
[09:57] <trappist> wheezart: you're a lot more likely to get a useful answer if your question is more like "I'm having this problem with my video card.  what should I do?"
[09:57] <wheezart> 10x.
[09:59] <wheezart> I'm having a problem with my nvidia Ge-Force 4 MX 440 in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake - the Kubuntu loading screen stalls(no text, empty progress bar) just before entering the logon screen.
[09:59] <tidiman07> hello
[09:59] <wheezart> What should i do?
[09:59] <wheezart> Hello tidiman
[10:00] <pichi> CU
[10:01] <trappist> wheezart: if you hit ctrl-alt-f1 does it drop you to a console?
[10:03] <trappist> wheezart: keep it in here
[10:04] <trappist> wheezart: don't message me, keep the discussion in the channel
[10:05] <jesspher>  is there any program in linux that supports ipod
[10:05] <trappist> jesspher: yes, several
[10:05] <trappist> jesspher: let me recommend amaroK since you're a kde guy
[10:05] <jesspher> how can i get amarok
[10:05] <trappist> sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:07] <steveire> sudo aptitude install amarok
[10:07] <jesspher> trappist: how can i install amarok and where can i get it?
[10:08] <jesspher> how can i get the amarok package
[10:08] <trappist> I already told you.  so did steveire.
[10:08] <jesspher> oops sorry
[10:09] <jesspher> thanks you guys
[10:10] <gatekeeper> trappist: the answer to the next question is libxine-extracodecs :-)
[10:10] <trappist> gatekeeper: yep :)
[10:10] <gatekeeper> trappist: :-)
[10:16] <kuba> Hi :)
[10:17] <rommie> hey guy's i search for a good route planner with gps support but i can find anythink in the dapper packet list
[10:19] <_kuba_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - What's this ?
[10:21] <jordan_> hello
[10:21] <jordan_> polish canal adres pleas ?
[10:22] <_kuba_> cze :)
[10:22] <jordan_> witam
[10:22] <jordan_> ubuntu.pl jaki ma adres ich kana irc ?
[10:22] <Ace2007> _kuba_: install x-dev libx11-dev  kdebase-dev
[10:23] <edulix> hi !
[10:23] <jordan_> hi
[10:23] <_kuba_> Ace thx :)
[10:23] <_kuba_> bdz pochwalony :)
[10:24] <jordan_> 267 ludu i nikt nie pisze :D
[10:28] <jhak88> anyone: any recommending program for FTP in Kubuntu Dapper?
[10:29] <jordan_> gFtp ?
[10:30] <pierluigi> ciao
[10:32] <_kuba_> "Good - your configure finished. Start make now" , bash: make: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu" who know ?
[10:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> halo? somebody can help me fix kmailservice?
[10:35] <_kuba_> jordan jestes :D?
[10:35] <rolando> _kuba_: rozumiesz po angielsku?
[10:35] <_kuba_> ?
[10:35] <_kuba_> rozumim
[10:36] <rolando> how can i change the owner of folder and all subfolfers?
[10:37] <_kuba_> Jak moe zmieniam waciciela teczki i caego subfolfers?
[10:39] <rolando> tak
[10:39] <rolando> chwon?
[10:39] <francis3d> hello
[10:39] <kosh> chown -R user.group directory
[10:39] <_kuba_> chodzi Ci o prawa dostepu do tego katalogu :D
[10:39] <_kuba_> ?
[10:40] <kosh> that will change the user and group settings for that directory and everything below it to user and group you specify
[10:41] <rolando> ok thanx kosh
[10:42] <wckdkl0wn_> is there a program for linux to allow you to view webcams on aol?
[10:42] <kosh> it is also to do it through kde somehow I think you can just right click on a directory and do it however I have not played with that
[10:42] <kosh> wckdkl0wn_: sorry no clue on that one
[10:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> halo? somebody can help me fix kmailservice? here it is what happens when i press send file.... in konqueror or when a program during crash want to send a bug report: http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshottz7.png
[10:43] <wckdkl0wn_> i remember hearing something about gaim_vv but they were only able to get yahoo to view but not send
[10:44] <wckdkl0wn_> i wonder if i was to run aim through wine if that would work then
[10:45] <_kuba_> dobra nawalem prawa ale i tak wyskakuje mi bash
[10:45] <trappist> !pl > _kuba_
[10:48] <jordan_> my computer in KDE don"t reboot or turn off - dark screen. HELP !
[10:49] <trappist> jordan_: ati card?
[10:50] <jordan_> yes
[10:53] <wckdkl0wn_> !wine
[10:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:54] <trappist> jordan_: I get the same thing using the fglrx driver, but not the ati driver.  there's a big bug report against it.
[10:55] <wckdkl0wn_> how easy is wine to use?
[10:55] <jordan_> so only wait for new version ?
[10:58] <wckdkl0wn_> how do i run an exe with wine?
[10:59] <acojlo> how to run kwrite from command line (no kdesu)
[10:59] <jordan_> trappist: I have direct rendering with ati driver ?
[11:00] <CyberWinXP> !Soures
[11:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about Soures - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:01] <CyberWinXP> !Sources
[11:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:01] <CyberWinXP> !Easysource
[11:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:02] <CyberWinXP> !Repositories
[11:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:02] <CyberWinXP> !Upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:02] <trappist> jordan_: no
[11:02] <jordan_> trappist: You use ati or fglrx driver, I don"t know what's best
[11:02] <trappist> CyberWinXP: if you have a question please just ask
[11:03] <CyberWinXP> Sorry, trappist.
[11:03] <dom> hey folks, I need some help with Kontact.  I'm trying to sync my address book and for now I basically just want to sync it to a file so I can keep the file on a keychain and carry it around with me
[11:03] <trappist> jordan_: I use ati now.  the fglrx drivers have been giving me hell.  you'll get more features (direct rendering) with fglrx, but I can't take the bugs anymore.
[11:03] <dom> I tried to set it up but it just says "cannot read from address book"
[11:03] <wheezart> Ok i've dumped this after my X server failed to load:
[11:03] <wheezart> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
[11:03] <wheezart> > dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: __glXLastCont
[11:04] <jordan_> trappist: oki. I'm going to X11 and reboot bay :)
[11:04] <wheezart> can someone help me resolve this? I'm running Dapper Drake LTS and i have a nvidia gf4mx440 @ AGP
[11:04] <jordan_> Thanks for help
[11:05] <dom> ugh, or Kontact just crashes
[11:05] <wheezart> can someone help me a little with this?
[11:06] <wheezart> I've tried the man pages but no success there...
[11:06] <trappist> wheezart: how did you install your nvidia drivers
[11:07] <wheezart> I installed the nvidia-glx with Adept from the repository
[11:08] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, what's your problem with kmail?
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dom: it keep opening konqueror windows without stopping
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> look here http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshottz7.png
[11:08] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, gimme a sec, just trying to open the image you psted
[11:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think it is because the wrong parameter in: kcontrol->kdecomponents->componentChooser -> EmailClient -> Use a different email client
[11:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like not to use kmail but to have a new konqueror or firefox windows with a new gmail email with filled to and subject field..
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but instead it keeps opening new konqueror windows without ever stopping
[11:11] <dom> oh, you are trying to use the gmail web interface as a default mail client?
[11:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah
[11:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i only use gmail for my email.. even though in the last 2 weeks after 2 years of nothing... i started getting spam
[11:12] <dom> heh, I've been getting spam there too
[11:12] <deuce> gatekeeper: you around?
[11:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kind of weird spam.. lots of attachments with pictures of pieces of text
[11:13] <dom> well Tallia1Kubuntu, I don't know about using webmail as a default mail client.  I would think you would be better off setting up gmail in kmail or thunderbird instead of using their web interface if you want to integrate into your desktop environment
[11:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> meh...... i don't think kmail is even installed
[11:13] <wheezart> Can someone help me with the config. of my gf4mx440, X server displays this and crashes:
[11:13] <wheezart> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
[11:13] <wheezart> > dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: __glXLastCont
[11:14] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, in kubuntu?
[11:14] <dom> it'd better be ;)
[11:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, ok, here it is :)
[11:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i taught i uninstalled it
[11:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :P
[11:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wheezart: do you have an ATI video card?
[11:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dom: can i ask you something? is it well worth to install a firewall in linux?
[11:15] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, that is a very tricky question.  Do you want the short answer or the long answer?
[11:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dom: medium?
[11:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ^__^
[11:15] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: if you're keeping up with software updates and have nice, secure habits, it won't get you any extra security.  if not, it's not a bad idea.
[11:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what are secure habits?
[11:16] <trappist> as in, don't run services you don't need, and of those you do need, don't have them listening on devices they don't need to listen on
[11:16] <wheezart> Nope =) Ge-Force MX440
[11:16] <dom> like don't install apache if you don't have to
[11:16] <trappist> don't allow password authentication via ssh, don't allow root login via ssh, have good passwords, and so on.
[11:18] <trappist> and if you do have to install apache, make it only listen on localhost unless you want it exposed to the internet.  if you do want it exposed to the internet, configure it securely because a firewall won't make it secure.
[11:18] <deuce> i don't have any sound - how can i fix this?
[11:18] <trappist> also, if you have a router between you and the internet, there's no point in a firewall anyway.
[11:19] <kosh> firewalls are a last line of security defence not a first line
[11:19] <kosh> the first line is not to make stuff listen that should not be listening
[11:19] <kosh> and when listening to listen as securely as possible
[11:19] <kosh> a firewall won't protect you from a bad apache setup but if apache is the only external service listening then there is no need for a firewall
[11:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> don't allow password authentication via ssh??
[11:20] <trappist> if you have 50 services listening on the internet, there's still no need for a firewall if you're just going to open those ports anyway
[11:20] <jordan> trappist: Hi again :)
[11:20] <kosh> trappist: the advantage of a firewall is in some types of blocking however it is rarely needed
[11:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't use apache, i use httpfs that offer read-only get methods..
[11:20] <kosh> trappist: on windows you usually need a firewall since configuring a service to bind to localhost only is often infeasible
[11:21] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, you can use ssh keys instead of passwords.  look up ssh keys and htere's lots of good info
[11:21] <trappist> yeah windows isn't configurable enough to get away with not having a firewall
[11:21] <kosh> trappist: however on unix you often don't need it at all
[11:21] <kbrooks> Ace2007: Please join #aegeanlinux.
[11:21] <mwe> A firewall could be good if you want to limit access to certain ip ranges for example
[11:21] <kosh> I have been dealing with people at gm for weeks over some of that kind of crap
[11:21] <dom> if you are running some services, it doesn't hurt to have a firewall just in case something gets opened up you don't expect
[11:21] <kbrooks> dom:
[11:21] <kosh> they want firewalls on all the db servers but the db servers listen on a unix domain socket
[11:22] <kbrooks> and.....
[11:22] <trappist> mwe: that's better done in the application if it supports it (as apache does)
[11:22] <kosh> dom: if someone gets control of your box and can open up ports you have lost already a firewall is the last of your problems
[11:22] <kbrooks> a firewall doesnt prevent secyrity breaches
[11:22] <mwe> trappist: yes if it does
[11:22] <mwe> trappist: far from all do though
[11:22] <kbrooks> security breaches*
[11:22] <trappist> kbrooks: it can, if it's the only thing standing between an attacker and a vulnerable service
[11:22] <kosh> if you want to limit stuff use tcpwrappers
[11:22] <mwe> trappist: are you saying a firewall is stupid?
[11:22] <trappist> mwe: not at all
[11:22] <kosh> that is built in and should work with everything
[11:23] <dom> kosh and kbrooks, I meant if I install a program and don't think to check whether it opens ports, I'd be protected by a firewall
[11:23] <kosh> and it is far less likely to break since it is not trying to be a complete filter
[11:23] <dom> it's a layer of security
[11:23] <dom> security is done in layers
[11:23] <kosh> dom: that is fine for a desktop but not for a server
[11:23] <trappist> dom: badow
[11:23] <z00m> just downloaded google earth and its a .bin file how do i install that ?
[11:23] <jordan> KDE it's slow, gnome it's faster ?  or XFCE ?
[11:23] <kosh> dom: for a server you better know at all times what all ports that are listening are
[11:23] <dom> kosh, sure it is if it's a testing server
[11:23] <trappist> z00m: sudo sh filename.bin
[11:23] <kbrooks> jordan: GNOME is slow.
[11:24] <kbrooks> jordan: XFCE is speedy
[11:24] <kosh> jordan: not sure what you are asking, they can all be fast or slow depending on how you use them and what your hardware is
[11:24] <kosh> dom: even on testing boxes I treat them like regular servers
[11:24] <trappist> kosh: even then, a firewall isn't a bad idea as a layer of security.  just don't count on it as your silver security bullet.
[11:24] <dom> sure, but that's not good advice to someone who is not good at hardening boxes
[11:24] <kbrooks> trappist: question
[11:24] <jordan> my hardware is 2,4ghz P4 768 ram and 9800pro it's ok for linux :)
[11:24] <kosh> trappist: it does add a layer of complexity though, it is one more thing that can go wrong and could lock you out of the box
[11:24] <dom> just because I hold myself to high standards in commputer security doesn't mean I expect others to do so as well
[11:24] <kbrooks> trappist: what is a security bulleet?
[11:25] <dom> kbrooks, is that a trick question?
[11:25] <kbrooks> No.
[11:25] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, probably
[11:25] <kosh> if you have 3 services and all of them have to accept connections from anywhere then a firewall doesn't buy you much other then another chance for failure
[11:25] <trappist> kosh: security is a tradeoff.  anything that makes you more secure is almost certain to make a system less usable, slower, less stable, or other bad stuff
[11:26] <z00m> trappist: how do i uninstall it
[11:26] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan,i got a P4 2.8ghz, 256 Mb Ram...runs fine
[11:26] <dom> the "silver bullet" comes from the myth of the werewolf.  a magical creature that could only be harmed by silver.  the term "silver bullet" is means something that will solve all problems.
[11:26] <z00m> its not working after install
[11:26] <dom> typically we mean to say that not all problems can be solved at once.  there is no "silver bullet"
[11:26] <jordan> Admiral_ChiUbunt : you use KDE ?
[11:26] <mwe> for some reason I can't get terminals like aterm and eterm to be transparent in kde unless I set the background with a program like feh in addition to the default kde background manager. and even then after a while it breaks again :|
[11:26] <kbrooks> dom: PL
[11:26] <kbrooks> ok*
[11:27] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, of course
[11:27] <mwe> it's odd
[11:27] <kosh> those programs have a hack for transparency
[11:27] <dom> whois kbrooks
[11:28] <dom> sry
[11:28] <trappist> mwe: Eterm works great transparent here
[11:28] <mwe> it looks like the "desktop window" in kde is not the root window
[11:28] <mwe> trappist: hmm
[11:28] <mwe> trappist: and you didn't do anything unusual?
[11:28] <dom> kbrooks, you mind if I ask what your native language is (or what they are)?  I'm guessing english is not your first language
[11:28] <trappist> mwe: it took some work to make it just right
[11:29] <kbrooks> dom: it is! i typoed
[11:29] <dom> hahah
[11:29] <mwe> trappist: but you just used the features if Eterm, didn't fiddle with kwm too?
[11:29] <dom> okay, I just figured most of the english speaking western world knew what silver bullets were
[11:29] <dom> sorry
[11:29] <trappist> mwe: correct.  I just put my Eterm config on whatever kde box I'm on, and I'm golden
[11:29] <jordan> What are you thing about Xgl/Compiz  ?
[11:29] <kbrooks> dom: not everyone knows every myth
[11:29] <mwe> I'm unlucky
[11:30] <deuce> how come my sound hardly works? i have to turn everything up to 100% and i get a very faint inkling of the sound
[11:30] <kbrooks> dom: and when i say everyone, i mean literally *everyone*
[11:30] <trappist> mwe: http://linuxkungfu.org/tmp/user.cfg
[11:30] <kbrooks> dom: er, s/myth/story/
[11:31] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, huh?
[11:31] <mwe> trappist: thanks I'll have a look
[11:31] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> how do I feel about those desktop enviroments?
[11:31] <dom> kbrooks, that's fair enough
[11:31] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> I've used them, KDE is the best...in my opinion
[11:32] <kbrooks> Admiral_ChiUbunt: why?
[11:32] <jordan> Admiral_ChiUbunt What are you thing about Xgl/Compiz , looks good i thing
[11:33] <kbrooks> jordan: ask the channel, not him
[11:33] <jordan> oki sorry ;)
[11:34] <kbrooks> hmm. i feel tempted to correct jordan's grammatical error, but i wont
[11:34] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, you get your question about a firewall answered?
[11:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ye
[11:34] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> I don't see a need for XGL really, all of it seems so unneccesary. If i wanted eye candy, i'd get a mac
[11:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> still dunno if my laptop have useless program in listening
[11:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and dunno how to detect them
[11:35] <kbrooks> Admiral_ChiUbunt: xgl is the ........ "killer app" (NOT my opinion!)
[11:35] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, then you should use a firewall
[11:35] <jordan> kbrooks why ?
[11:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dom: i have an hardware firewall in my router
[11:35] <kbrooks> jordan: because there is an alternative for xgl on microsoft windows
[11:35] <dom> do you have other computers on your lan?  does your computer ever move to other lans?
[11:35] <kbrooks> jordan: (in vista)
[11:36] <kbrooks> jordan: oh, and expose
[11:36] <kbrooks> on  mac os x
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> There is an alternative to xgl that is already in edgy and can be used with any cards other than nvidia
[11:36] <jordan> kbrooks ye i know but looks great. best then vista :)
[11:36] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: and that is?
[11:36] <kenshin6x> hi, my keyboard is desconfigured after XGL, whats solution?
[11:36] <deuce> how come my sound hardly works? i have to turn everything up to 100% and i get a very faint inkling of the sound
[11:36] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: i was talking about other OSes
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: aiglx
[11:37] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: link?
[11:37] <wckdkl0wn_> how do i extract jasper-1.701.0.zip
[11:37] <trappist> wckdkl0wn_: unzip filename.zip
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: Why are you so lazy search for yourself its part of xorg 7.1 though
[11:37] <dom> deuce is it hooked up to the correct sound jacks on your card?  I know I get that if I connect the speakers to the wrong channel or something like that.
[11:37] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: that attitude is extremely rude
[11:38] <trappist> h3sp4wn: yeah be respectful
[11:38] <jordan> I need e-mile client ?
[11:38] <kenshin6x> hi, my keyboard is desconfigured after XGL, whats solution?
[11:38] <trappist> jordan: kmail
[11:38] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> kenshin6x, sudo dpkg -configure locales
[11:38] <jordan> trappist oki it"s the best ?:)
[11:39] <kenshin6x> THX, i try it
[11:39] <trappist> jordan: if you're using kde, it's probably your best option.  it's well-integrated with kde.
[11:39] <kenshin6x> will try it*
[11:39] <dom> jordan, I agree with trappist
[11:39] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> h3sp4wn, i'm goign with them on this. you're my guy and all but be polite
[11:39] <kbrooks> i searched for aiglx btw
[11:39] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> plus, we all ask question when we could just search for the answer ourselves
[11:39] <kbrooks> first link
[11:40] <xavi> hi, somebody can i help me please???
[11:40] <dom> yes
[11:40] <xavi> i need to see the kubuntu's version
[11:40] <xavi> how to?
[11:40] <deuce> dom: my headphones have been plugged in for almost a year. i just reinstalled kbuntu today. The sound worked fine yesterday before the reinstall.
[11:40] <xavi> sorry but my english is bad xDD
[11:40] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> xavi, what do  you need?
[11:40] <trappist> xavi: kde-config --version
[11:40] <dom> deuce, sorry, that was my shot-in-the-dark ;)
[11:40] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> deuce, try running alsamixer in the konsole
[11:41] <xavi> i want see if the update to dapper is correct
[11:41] <kenshin6x> Admiral_ChiUbunt hey man, its return error ><
[11:41] <xavi> ok
[11:41] <xavi> ok
[11:41] <xavi> thanks trappist
[11:41] <xavi> xDD
[11:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dom: yeah, yeah
[11:41] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> kenshin6x, what error?
[11:42] <jordan> when they fix  fglrx - error reboot ?
[11:42] <kenshin6x> kenshin@synthax:~$ sudo configure locales
[11:42] <kenshin6x> sudo: configure: command not found
[11:42] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> kenshin6x, sudo dpkg -configure
[11:42] <trappist> --configure
[11:43] <kenshin6x> dpkg: error processing locales (--configure):
[11:43] <kenshin6x>  package locales is already installed and configured
[11:43] <kenshin6x> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:43] <dom> Tallia1Kubuntu, then there you go.  A firewall is not a bad idea.  If you want to start learning about security, networks in particular, try configuring iptables manually.  It's not hard but it helps if you know networking and it will help reinforce your understanding.
[11:43] <kenshin6x>  locales
[11:43] <deuce> Admiral_ChiUbunt: that sorta worked. I turned everything in there to 100%. but now i can just hear the sound. you figure at 100% it should hurt to have headphones on.
[11:43] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> deuce, awesome
[11:43] <AegeanLinux> Hello everyone!
[11:43] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> that happened to me
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> These days you need to use localeconf to configure locales
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> install localeconf and sudo dpkg-reconfigure localconf
[11:44] <wckdkl0wn_> how do i isntall this if this is the directory lsiting?
[11:44] <wckdkl0wn_> acaux       configure     data     jasper.spec     Makefile.am  README
[11:44] <wckdkl0wn_> aclocal.m4  configure.ac  doc      jasper.spec.in  Makefile.in  src
[11:44] <wckdkl0wn_> ChangeLog   COPYRIGHT     INSTALL  LICENSE         NEWS
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> or just edit /etc/locale.gen
[11:44] <deuce> Admiral_ChiUbunt: i didnt realize that this kept scrolling to the right
[11:44] <deuce> :-)
[11:44] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> wckdkl0wn_, StOP!
[11:44] <wckdkl0wn_> ?
[11:44] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> use a paste bin
[11:44] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> !paste
[11:44] <kenshin6x> i will try, thx
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:44] <wckdkl0wn_> sry my bad
[11:44] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> no problem
[11:44] <deuce> Admiral_ChiUbunt: i turned up the VIA DXS and it got loud :-)  thnx
[11:45] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> deuce, glad I could help
[11:45] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> wckdkl0wn_, have you tried sudo make
[11:45] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> ./configure
[11:45] <wckdkl0wn_> says no targets specified
[11:45] <deuce> now i just need to get Transcode to work
[11:45] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> wckdkl0wn_, actually, what does the README say
[11:45] <deuce> by chance have any knowledge with that?
[11:46] <lens> I
[11:46] <lens> oops
[11:46] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> they tell you the good bit
[11:46] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> deuce, never heard of it
[11:46] <wckdkl0wn_> Admiral_ChiUbunt: just talks about licensing
[11:46] <lens> I'm having a heck of a time with broken packages and unmet dependancies.
[11:46] <trappist> Admiral_ChiUbunt: it's for converting videos from one format to another, especially for ripping dvds
[11:47] <jordan> I don't have kmail in KDE menu, where i found it ?
[11:47] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> what about the install file
[11:47] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, create a link to a device
[11:47] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> drag it over
[11:47] <GIGANTOR> can anything open .wma?
[11:47] <trappist> mplayer
[11:47] <trappist> probably xine too
[11:47] <GIGANTOR> right-o, lemme grab that
[11:48] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> wckdkl0wn_, read the INSTALL file
[11:48] <lens> why would I be having trouble with all these broken packages and unmet dependencies... I can't install anything!  how do I fix it?
[11:48] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> VLC can i think
[11:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> lens: what are you installing and where did you get it
[11:48] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> lens, replace your sources.list
[11:48] <trappist> lens: try sudo apt-get -f install
[11:48] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> !easysource
[11:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:48] <lens> I tried sude apt-get -f install and it didn't work...
[11:49] <trappist> not sude. and what does didn't work mean.
[11:49] <jordan> Admiral_ChiUbunt :how to create a link to a device
[11:49] <lens> I would like to replace my sources.list, but I don't know with what?
[11:49] <gatekeeper> GIGANTOR: codecs are probable the issue rather than media player
[11:49] <GIGANTOR> i have an azzload of codecs
[11:49] <trappist> yeah you do need w32codecs installed
[11:49] <GIGANTOR> i do
[11:49] <wckdkl0wn_> Admiral_ChiUbunt: i just did ./configure && make
[11:49] <GIGANTOR> lemme try in vlc
[11:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> !easysource >lens
[11:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> !easysource > lens
[11:49] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> go to easy source, get all the dappper packages, including source and pakcages
[11:50] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> NOT the commercial ones of backdoor ones
[11:50] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, on the destktop
[11:50] <gatekeeper> GIGANTOR: I have libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs and that covers most things
[11:50] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> right click, create new link to application
[11:50] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> in the tabs, hit the application one, and the command in kmail (probably)
[11:50] <GIGANTOR> gate- i'll try the libxine-extracodecs and try it
[11:51] <lens> Admiral_ChiUbunt... so... install everything except commerical and backdoor ones?
[11:51] <GIGANTOR> thanks ;)
[11:51] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> yea it is
[11:51] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> !lens
[11:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about lens - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:51] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> !easysource
[11:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:51] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> oops
[11:51] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> hold on, I'll link you lens
[11:51] <lens> I know where the soruce o matic is, I just don't know what packages to install...
[11:51] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> lens, i386?
[11:52] <lens> amd64
[11:52] <jordan> Admiral_ChiUbunt thank's very much
[11:52] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, no problem
[11:52] <lens> and should I kate and then delete my whold sources.list file first?
[11:52] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> US?
[11:52] <lens> yes
[11:52] <ryanakca> ummm... why is it that all of a sudden... konqueror does't open?
[11:52] <trappist> lens: better to comment out the existing lines (prepend them with #)
[11:52] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> yea, you need to be sudo
[11:52] <lens> OK.
[11:53] <lens> I'll open it and comment out the lines.
[11:53] <jordan> I have error when i run gedit or kate but the works
[11:53] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, what do you mean an error?
[11:53] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> whats it do
[11:53] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> lens, what country you in?
[11:53] <jordan> ordan@jordan:~$  sudo gedit
[11:53] <jordan> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:53] <jordan>   Major opcode:  145
[11:54] <jordan>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:54] <jordan>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:54] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> yea that happens to me too
[11:54] <jordan> Failed to open device
[11:54] <lens> Admiral_ChiUbunt US
[11:54] <jordan> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:54] <jordan>   Major opcode:  145
[11:54] <jordan>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:54] <jordan>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:54] <jordan> Failed to open device
[11:54] <gatekeeper> jordon pastebin
[11:54] <jordan> ** (gedit:5246): WARNING **: Could not import pygtk
[11:54] <jordan> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:54] <jordan>   File "/usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/modelines.py", line 20, in ?
[11:54] <jordan>     import gedit
[11:54] <jordan> ImportError: No module named gedit
[11:54] <jordan> ** (gedit:5246): WARNING **: Could not load python module modelines
[11:54] <jordan> ** (gedit:5246): CRITICAL **: gedit_plugin_update_ui: assertion `GEDIT_IS_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed
[11:54] <jordan> ** (gedit:5246): CRITICAL **: gedit_plugin_update_ui: assertion `GEDIT_IS_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed
[11:54] <jordan> /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[11:55] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> jordan, stop!
[11:55] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> when you have large text use a paste bin
[11:55] <gatekeeper> jordan: use pastebin
[11:55] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> !paste
[11:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:56] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> lens, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:56] <wolfmanz> whats a good ftp client ?
[11:56] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> ah
[11:56] <jordan> gftp
[11:56] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> hold on
[11:56] <leigh> wolfmanz, ncftp
[11:56] <lens> Admiral_ChiUbunt yes?
[11:56] <rr72> wolfmanz~ the ftp cmd u don't like?
[11:56] <jordan> wolfmanz gftp
[11:56] <lens> oh hah Admiral_ChiUbunt OK, let me go to the link.
[11:56] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> I didn't copy the URL
[11:56] <wolfmanz> thanks
[11:57] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19127
[11:57] <Admiral_ChiUbunt> thats the one
[11:57] <deuce> i hate applciations that don't have packages
[11:57] <gatekeeper> jordan: probable better if you run kate ro gedit from Run Command... and if you need it to run in admin mode then do: kdesu gedit (or kate)
[11:57] <lens> Admiral_Chicago... so install EVERYTHING except backdoor and community supported??
[11:57] <jordan> i runde kate in consol
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[11:58] <lens> ok cool thanks!
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the multiverse and universe too
[11:58] <jordan> gatekeeper i run kate in consol
[11:58] <RobertX> Anyone here know their way around Samba?
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> make sure to do apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Pirates!
[11:58] <gatekeeper> jordan: I figured as much :-) , run it from Run Command...
[11:59] <acojlo> smtp on gmail is working from kmail?
[11:59] <brunatos> yop yop
[11:59] <ryanakca> why is it that all of a sudden konqueror does't load?
[12:00] <jordan> gatekeeper oki
[12:00] <ryanakca> acojlo: yes
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> ryanakca, sudo dpkg --configure konqueror
[12:00] <gatekeeper> RobertX: not that well yet, but if you install Samba you can use the GUI by going to system settings -> sharing
[12:00] <ryanakca> acojlo: been using it for a while :)
[12:01] <ryanakca> Admiral_Chicago: dpkg: error processing konqueror (--configure):   package konqueror is already installed and configured
[12:01] <RobertX> My problem seems to be this: everytime I share something on my Linux box, it always asks for a password in Windows
[12:02] <brunatos> (francais ???:D) hie evryone someone can tell me how repair a windows partition after an install of kubuntu ??
[12:02] <Admiral_Chicago> brunatos, repain windows? what about french?
[12:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys, how would you write a bash command that filter content of a dir according to a grep filter and do something?
[12:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried with this: mv `ls | grep System` /media/docz/mymusic/  but didn't work
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> ryanakca, try unistalling and installing it again
[12:03] <brunatos> just most easy if a french tell with me i'm a frenchi's newbie
[12:04] <draik> brunatos, what's wrong with the windows partition?
[12:04] <Admiral_Chicago> brunatos, i dont understand, are you trying to learn french or new to English and a native speaker
[12:04] <twosouls82> good evening all :)
[12:04] <ryanakca> brunatos, join toi  #kubuntu-fr
[12:05] <brunatos> when i install kubuntu it ecrase my part of windows, GRUB wan't to boot on it
[12:05] <draik> brunatos, did you check /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:05] <brunatos> (pas bete)
[12:05] <ryanakca> brunatos: join to au cannal #kubuntu-fr si tu aimerais de l'aide en franais, ceci est le canal anglais
[12:05] <lens> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[12:05] <lens> wtf?
[12:05] <brunatos> yep
[12:05] <gatekeeper> brunatos: you need to fixmbr
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> lens, use nano
[12:06] <twosouls82> hehehe
[12:06] <lens> ok thanks.
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> from konsole
[12:06] <draik> get your windows disc or create a dos disk and type 'fdisk /mbr'
[12:06] <lens> sudo nano sources.list?
[12:06] <draik> ^^ brunatos
[12:06] <twosouls82> lens, yep
[12:06] <lens> thanks :)
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> lens, yea
[12:07] <kenshin6x> Admiral_Chicago hey, i install the locale conf and run dpkg-reconfigure localeconf but its not configure my keyboard =/
[12:07] <brunatos> k i see that on the web but it explqin that i must save the actual mbr and reinstall the mbr of windows for after reinstall grub that appair ocult
[12:07] <gatekeeper> lens: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> kenshin6x, just try localeconf
[12:07] <jordan> when they fix  fglrx - reboot error
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> gatekeeper, you're right
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i didnt read it
[12:07] <kenshin6x> dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[12:08] <kenshin6x> ops
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> plus i have an ice cream bar
[12:08] <kenshin6x> this sudo: localeconf: command not found
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[12:08] <gatekeeper> Admiral_Chicago: :-)
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo localeconf
[12:08] <twosouls82> I assume he knew that, because he was asking for it himself :)
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> localesconf
[12:08] <kenshin6x> try sudo localeconf.. return sudo: localeconf: command not found
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> s....