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kwwiire12:23
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Viper550Hello!01:26
kwwiihehe, meeting now...shhhh01:29
Viper550where?01:29
kwwiisorry for not responding01:36
Viper550I uploaded a tarball to the kubuntu-edgy-ideas page containing my new theme01:46
kwwiiViper550: could you put the pics on there too, so we can see them without downloading them?01:52
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Viper550The pic is there01:53
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troy_sping03:35
troy_swho lives?03:35
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troy_sgreetings _jason03:54
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Viper550Hello03:28
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Viper550Hello everyone07:30
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Viper550Anyone here?07:39
kwwiiI am07:41
Viper550I'm loving that new style that was documented on the wiki, -1 looks awesome!07:42
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newz2000anyone know a way to find out what fonts you've installed that are not part of a distro?08:13
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mhbgood evening10:08
kwwiihowdy mr mhb10:10
mhbso, what are you up tu?10:12
mhbto10:12
kwwiinot too much10:15
kwwiikinda mellowing out tonight10:15
kwwiiyou?10:15
mhbme too10:17
mhbI'm probably going to do more work at the weekend10:18
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kwwiiyeah,10:31
kwwiime too :-)10:31
mhbkwwii: I've seen the wallpaper suggestions10:34
kwwiiwhat did you think?10:34
kwwiithe lag is you trying to decide how honest to be :p10:35
kwwiilol10:35
mhbkwwii: :o)10:37
mhbkwwii: I liked more the non-bubbly things10:37
kwwiidon't worry about hurting my feelings10:37
kwwiido you like the flower pic? as wallpaper, I mean?10:38
mhbI'll check them all once more :o)10:39
mhbwell, the flower is nice, but maybe too bright10:40
mhbI currently use the "world" background10:41
kwwiiso perhaps I should do more work on that10:42
mhband I think the bubbles look a bit "unnatural"10:43
kwwiiit fits much better with the current kde look10:43
mhbkwwii: but I think more people should raise their voices10:44
mhbkwwii: your decision should not be based solely on my opinions10:45
mhb:o)10:45
kwwiimhb: I think I will send an email to the list asking for ideas10:45
kwwiinote that I also discuss all of this with the kubuntu community in general10:46
mhbwhere?10:46
mhbthat's great10:46
kwwiibut I want to ask for people to help contribute to the theme10:46
mhbOK ... I get it :o)10:46
kwwiithe artwork community behind kubuntu needs to grow, and I need to sponsor that10:47
mhbyou work on the bubble theme and I'll try to do some modifications to the "world" bg10:47
kwwiisounds cool :-)10:47
mhbI agree ... we needmore people like you :o)10:47
kwwiiI should post the original map svg I found10:47
kwwiisomeone pointed it out to me online10:47
kwwiiyou?10:48
mhbI don't remember10:48
mhbbut I liked it from the beginning10:48
kwwiiI will post some of the svgs and stuff (also from the kde3 bg, it has the same kinda idea)10:49
mhbanyone has experience with running Photoshop under wine?10:49
mhb(some lazy "artist" wants me to move his design proposal into CSS, but he offers me only a photoshop file)10:50
mhbkwwii: kde3 had a world map as a bg?10:51
mhbkwwii: wow ... I never noticed :o)10:51
kwwiimhb: yepp, kde3 has a world pic (with alpha trans.)10:54
kwwiiand a wave at the bottom10:54
kwwiikde3.510:54
mhbkwwii: I probably used only Kubuntu with KDE3+ :o)10:55
kwwiihttp://bootsplash.org/earth_wave3.svg10:55
mhboh .o)10:58
mhbI've seen only the wave, without the world10:59
kwwiihttp://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.svg10:59
kwwiibut that is a bad version of the svg10:59
kwwiithe map slowly started to get fscked up as I worked on it10:59
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mhbkwwii: how come?11:19
kwwiiI guess it was the filter (negative multiply) that I used in Adobe Illustrator to make the colored countries transparent11:20
kwwiiit worked, kinda, in inkscape but it eventually fscked things up11:20
mhb(I need to achieve some major goals and then ask for the Kubuntu membership ... I always feel like a plebeian around here :o)11:20
mhbkwwii: so that is why some countries look lighter than others?11:22
kwwiiyepp, in the original AI version they all had different colors, and it was pretty nifty11:23
kwwiiI should update things11:23
mhbI should get Illustrator :o)11:23
kwwiito be honest, it still does some things better than any other tool I know11:27
mhbkwwii: well, it's not the cheapest tool around, so it should be at least partially worth the money .o)11:31
kwwiimhb: the funny thing, is that for a lot of people, who need to make money with it, it is11:32
kwwiiand everyone in the OS community gives it trouble11:33
mhbkwwii: it is not the cheapest tool, definitely :o)11:33
kwwiiyet, it is still better in some ways, than any free tool available11:33
mhbkwwii: I'll be happy when they will offer packages for Ubuntu. :o)11:33
kwwiiI mean, try to work with a printer11:33
kwwiideal with CMYK stuff11:33
kwwiiand file formats11:34
kwwiiproduce a decent eps in linux11:34
kwwiiI can understand the problems with proprietary file formats11:34
kwwiianyway11:35
kwwiieps should not be that hard11:36
kwwiiok, the cmyk stuff still sucks11:36
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kwwiiI could write a book about it :p11:41
mhb:o)11:46
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mhbsorry, had a call :o)11:55
mhbkwwii: I would be more than happy if they offered packages for Linux/Ubuntu11:55
mhbkwwii: because now I'm forced either to use an emulator or to install an operating system I don't own (or like)11:56
kwwiimhb: hell, I would even pay for them11:56
kwwiihonestly11:56
mhbkwwii: if graphics earned me enough money I would pay for them, too.11:57
kwwiihehe11:57
kwwiiwell, it is what I do for a living11:57
mhbkwwii: I know :o)11:58
kwwiionscreen graphics, video and foto work11:58
mhbkwwii: Canonical pays you?11:58
kwwiimhb: I have a contract for 24 hours a week with them, yes11:59
mhbkwwii: that's nice :o)11:59
kwwiiwell, it ends in a few months12:00
kwwiibut the previous one was for 15 hours a week12:00
kwwiiwho knows12:00
kwwiiI also have a few possibilities in the area, so I am not too worried about work12:01
mhbkwwii: about the Adobe Suite stuff ... the thing I dislike is the "vicious circle" that ends at Windows OS12:01
mhbkwwii: like what happened to me today -> artist makes a design for a webpage and saves it in .psd -> needs me to work with it -> no software for that on Ubuntu (I guess)12:02
mhbkwwii: so I have to "borrow" some Adobe soft for a week and try to run it in wine or in vmware (and I have to "borrow" some XP with it)12:04
mhbkwwii: OK, I'll stop whining now :o)12:04

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