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Admiral_Chicagowith an s12:08
Admiral_ChicagolocaleSconf12:08
ryanakcaAdmiral_Chicago: nope12:08
draikbrunatos, you will need to fix your MBR and then reinstall Kubuntu12:09
smithsr93How do I get amarok to recognize my sound card? Sound card works, with hardware sound test.12:09
draikmake your backups12:09
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kenshin6xAdmiral_Chicago sudo: localesconf: command not found12:09
Admiral_Chicagosmithsr93, you run alsamixer in konsole12:09
Admiral_Chicagokenshin6x, hold on a sec12:09
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smithsr93do I need to sudo first?12:10
ryanakcasmithsr93: it should work, what kind of file are you trying to play? .wav? .mp3? .m4a?12:10
ryanakcasmithsr93: any errors?12:10
smithsr93default streaming content on player, no errors,12:10
Admiral_Chicagono12:10
smithsr93This is fresh install of Kubuntu12:10
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kenshin6xAdmiral_Chicago ok12:10
lensThanks very much, source o matic is cool!12:10
Admiral_Chicagosmithsr93, check this12:11
Admiral_Chicago!mp312:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:11
danlHow do i bind a command to key or key sequence?12:11
Admiral_Chicagokenshin6x, this was after doing what on your computer/12:11
brunatosdraik: if i reinstall kubuntu i will lost my configuration file like xorg.conf and other ???12:11
draikbrunatos: yup. Make your backups12:11
gatekeeperbrunatos: smithsr93I have installed libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs that covers most things12:12
ryanakcabrunatos: backup... use "Keep"... should be under Kmenu -> System -> Sweep12:12
kenshin6xAdmiral_Chicago iam install XGL12:12
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ryanakcaAdmiral_Chicago: konqueror still doesn't work12:12
Admiral_Chicagotry reconfiguring X12:12
Admiral_Chicagoryanakca, hmm12:12
Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg -configure xserver-xorg12:13
brunatosdraik: ryanakca: coool12:13
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Admiral_Chicagokenshin6x, wait thats not it12:13
=== gatekeeper night all
Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:13
Admiral_Chicagotry that12:13
brunatosbut i must to save it on another part ?12:13
kenshin6xAdmiral_Chicago i will try12:13
draikbrunatos, you're welcome. hope everything works for you12:14
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kenshin6xdpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--configure):12:14
draikbrunatos, burn it to CD after backed up on your Kubuntu partition12:14
kenshin6x package xserver-xorg is already installed and configured12:14
kenshin6xErrors were encountered while processing:12:14
kenshin6x xserver-xorg12:14
Admiral_Chicagoryanakca, hmm, what happens when you run konqueror?12:14
ryanakcakenshin6x: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:14
brunatosi prefer this canal, the french canal is so empty12:15
decryptwhois seveas12:16
Seveasdecrypt, that's me12:16
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ryanakcaAdmiral_Chicago: nothing... doesn't load... and the usual happens in konsole... (same stuff that comes up when loading any other kde app... scim and stuff)12:16
Admiral_Chicagoryanakca, no clue....let me come back in a bit and try to help you out12:16
Seveasdecrypt, and don't think nickchanges fool anyone :12:16
Admiral_Chicagotry running pstree (konsole)12:17
Admiral_Chicagosomething might be running after tall12:17
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decryptis dennis@kaarsemaker.net youre emailadres?12:18
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Seveasdecrypt, yes, so?12:19
Seveasyou could try dennis@ubuntu.com too if you want12:19
decryptnope12:19
Seveasah of course, you won't believe that that's actually mine12:20
Seveasbut that's ok12:20
Seveasit'll still work12:20
acojloryanakca: don't mind to send me host, port and methods for gmail smtp?12:20
acojloryanakca: i have problems for the previous two days12:21
decryptSeveas just want to explane you something. Cause I want to get of the banned list. \12:21
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ryanakcaacojlo: just a sec12:21
Seveasdecrypt, with this behaviour that's quite hard12:21
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decryptSeveas please check you mail in some time.12:21
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kenshin6xAdmiral_Chicago hey man, its reconfigure xorg but not fix the keyboard probleam after xgl >/12:22
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brunatosdraik: Xcuse me again but what folders i  must to save for keep my configuration ??? keep is a clone of ghost or not i open it and i don't understand very well .....12:23
acojloryanakca: just a sec - to reg12:23
ryanakcakk12:23
lensso now I made my new sources.list file, but when I run it, I get about four errors saying GPG error: the public key is not available.  Should I ignore that?12:24
ryanakcabrunatos: I'd keep    /home/brunatos for sure... maybe some other spots12:24
draikbrunatos, I'd think that /home/brunatos should be all. everything else should be kept the same with the fresh install12:26
draikwell, not kept but replaced12:26
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brunatosryanakca: draik: keep gona to save only the configuration files or all the system (app and other) ?12:27
lensIs it common to get about 4 errors when you guys run sudo apt-get update?12:27
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draikbrunatos, it will backup whatever you tell it to save for you.12:29
twosouls82lens, no that is NOT common12:30
twosouls82lens, what errors?12:30
brunatosdraik: but basicaly it do nothing i must enter what location what he must save ?12:30
lenstwosouls82, I'd better pastebin it, hold on 1 sec.12:31
twosouls82lens, kee12:31
draikbrunatos, instruct KEEP of the locations to save (/home/brunatos) and any others followed by where you want to save them12:31
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decryptSeveas got mail.12:33
brunatosdraik: ok ok12:33
Seveasdecrypt, I know. about 2000 unread ones12:33
twosouls82lens, you spoke about a signature check fail earlier, had that to do with the new KDE packages (their mirror)?12:33
twosouls82if so, you would like to import Jonathan Riddell's key12:34
decryptSeveas please will you read it?12:34
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lenstwosouls82 pastebin is being a bitch... well, I was instructed to go to source o matic and install every repo except backdoor and community... so I did, but now I get errors when I run sudo update.12:35
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brunatosdraik: Thx for all12:35
twosouls82lens, you are allowed to paste it in pm for now ;)12:36
lensk :)12:36
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lensHit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources12:36
lensHit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages12:36
twosouls82pm12:36
lensHit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources12:36
twosouls82;)12:36
lensFetched 8520B in 1s (7171B/s)12:36
twosouls82private message12:36
twosouls82:P12:36
lensReading package lists... Done12:36
lensW: GPG error: http://people.ubuntu.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B0B7481B1F44842D12:36
lensW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508812:36
lensW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508812:37
lensW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508812:37
lensW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems12:37
lenshasmademethirsty@A-desktop:~$12:37
twosouls82lens you will need the signare for verification from those repos12:37
twosouls82sgnature12:37
lensHit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources12:37
lensHit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages12:37
lensHit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources12:37
lensFetched 8520B in 1s (7171B/s)12:37
lensReading package lists... Done12:37
lensW: GPG error: http://people.ubuntu.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B0B7481B1F44842D12:37
lensW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508812:37
Hawkwind!pastebin12:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:37
lensW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508812:37
Hawkwindlens: Please stop!12:38
lensW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508812:38
Hawkwind!kops12:38
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak12:38
lensW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems12:38
lenshasmademethirsty@A-desktop:~$12:38
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lensoh duh, lol12:38
lenssorry everyone12:38
lenshow do I do that??  I just switched to KDE yesterday.12:38
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Hawkwindlens: use a pastebin d00d.  Do NOT flood like that12:38
gnomefreaklens: use pastebin12:38
twosouls82lens, you still rehehehe12:38
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lensHawkwind, dude sorry... it was a misunderstanding... I thought I had clearance to do that... heh.12:38
gnomefreakHawkwind: you should beable to use !ops instead of !kops now12:38
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rljis there some nice program to assign special keyboard hotkeys to actions? (like special volume keys on my laptop)12:38
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yeah, just habit of knowing kops instead of ops :)12:39
twosouls82he had to leave at once?12:39
gnomefreaki knowe ;)12:39
Riddellrlj: khotkeys12:39
Riddellbut laptop keys are often funny12:39
Riddellwe're working on th2at12:39
Riddellthat12:39
Riddell** deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main   testing needed12:39
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gnomefreakRiddell: i will if i get X back12:40
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HawkwindRiddell: Testing an install now on a 686 SMP system :)12:41
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lensI'm not a troll, I just thought I was authorized because pastbin is being a bitch...12:41
rljRiddell: so should i get it from the kubuntu 354 testing repo? or was that comment not for me?12:41
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HawkwindRiddell: Is it natural that it keeps back a ton of packages ?12:42
gnomefreakHawkwind: you mean 26?12:42
naliothlens: there are dozens of pastebins12:42
lensoh... I only know about pastebin.com12:42
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Looks like more than 26, let me pastebin it12:42
gnomefreaki only have 26 held back atm12:43
gnomefreakHawkwind: i cant get to pastebin12:43
gnomefreaknot for another hour atleast unless i can come up with a way to fix this12:43
Hawkwindgnomefreak: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/1212:43
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Ohhh12:44
beagleburtAnyone care to help me with "Kaffeine" & DVD's???12:44
Hawkwindgnomefreak: So you can't visit any web sites right now ?12:44
HawkwindRiddell: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/1212:44
gnomefreaknope nbot atm12:44
Hawkwindgnomefreak: #12:44
Hawkwind46 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 110 not upgraded.12:44
Hawkwind#12:44
Hawkwind12 not fully installed or removed.12:44
HawkwindThat's what I get when adding Riddell's 3.5.4 repo12:45
gnomefreakhavent tried that yet12:45
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h3sp4wngnomefreak: You can cut and paste in screen quite easily12:45
gnomefreakit wont do me any good without a working X12:45
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: if i was on screen i could12:45
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lenstwosouls82, I feel retarted, I can't even figure out how to PM, I'm already registered under this nick, but it wont let me *groans*12:46
h3sp4wngnomefreak: No sympathy from me then for not having screen installed (j/k)12:46
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gnomefreakh3sp4wn: if i find the issue with fonts i will have working GUI again (almost garrentied12:47
twosouls82hehehe12:47
twosouls82I have the solution for you lens12:47
Hawkwindgnomefreak: links-graphic you can view sites without X12:47
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Or even links IIRC12:47
twosouls82you should always READ what you do (or RTFM) ;)12:47
gnomefreakHawkwind: yes i know apt is running atm12:47
gnomefreakHawkwind: links212:47
lensok? I need those signatures,... but... can't figure that out.12:47
HawkwindSo I'm wondering, if 110 packages aren't going to be upgraded, is that going to break my KDE install ?12:48
twosouls82lens, please regenerate the list and look at the top of the sources.list for instructions for the signatures12:48
decryptSeveas did you read it?12:48
lenstwosouls82, cool, I'll do that.12:48
Seveasdecrypt, it's at the bottom of 2000 unread mails. so no -- and please stop bothering me12:48
gnomefreaklens: go to kubuntu.org and look where you got the repos from Riddell's key and instrructions are there12:48
SeveasI have much more important things to do12:48
acojloHave you heard for http://code.google.com/hosting/ ?12:48
Hawkwindacojlo: That's old stuff12:49
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decryptSeveas than stop banning me for no good reason men12:49
acojlo:) silly me12:49
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acojloknow where to report kernel bug to kubuntu team?12:49
gnomefreakHawkwind: they may or may not most likely there is a conflict of depends is why they are being held back12:49
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twosouls82lens, good luck, and just ask when you feel like12:49
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Seveasdecrypt, which part of "stop bothering me" is hard to understand?12:49
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HawkwindSeveas: I think he got the point that time :)12:50
twosouls82 *** gnomefreak takes channel operator privileges from gnomefreak.12:50
twosouls82huh?12:50
Seveassorry gnomefreak, but the guy just won't listen...12:50
gnomefreakSeveas: its all good12:50
nalioth!register > lens12:50
Hawkwindgnomefreak: So I'm wondering if I should go through with the update or not12:50
gnomefreakhe started getting to me12:50
gnomefreakHawkwind: yes12:50
HawkwindI don't use KDE anyways.  Just konqueror and a couple of other things12:50
gnomefreakfinisah the update12:50
beagleburtAnyone care to help me with "Kaffeine" & DVD's???12:50
gnomefreaki did :(12:51
Hawkwindbeagleburt: Ask your question please.  We can't read minds12:51
Hawkwindgnomefreak: You just did the update to 3.5.4 ?12:51
gnomefreakHawkwind: no i have no X it wont help me atm12:51
gnomefreakHawkwind: when i get X working i will12:52
gnomefreaki would leave the held back ones for a day or 312:52
beagleburtok  I can't play DVD's  on Kaffeine & i do not know what to do - am newbie - help, please!12:52
gnomefreakHawkwind: than try to install 1 and see if it is going to remove something you need if it is than stop and wait a lil longer12:52
gnomefreakhopefully i will be using it tonight sometime but its already 7pm12:53
gnomefreakbrb12:53
Viper550Anyone want to see one of my theme ideas for Edgy?12:53
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AegeanLinuxViper550: Yes please.12:54
AegeanLinuxI like idea's Viper55012:54
Viper550https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/KubuntuProposals12:54
beagleburtHawkwind:  I can't play DVD's  on Kaffeine & i do not know what to do - am newbie - help, please!12:54
Viper550And, you can even try it out (As I have a Tarball too, but you'll need to get Polyester for maximum effect)12:54
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danlHow do i bind a command to key or key sequence?12:56
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Hawkwind!restricted > beagleburt12:58
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beagleburtHawkwind: TKU!01:01
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danlhow do i bind keys to a command in kde?01:06
danleh nevermind01:07
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lensok, thanks guys, I figured out the keys thing.01:08
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gnomefreakanyone happen to know the meta package for Xfonts?01:14
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abattoirgnomefreak: not sure, but 'xfonts-base' maybe?01:15
gnomefreakabattoir: thats what i thought and it may be but that isnt the issue than01:16
decryptSeveas wat ben je nou voor een slappe zak man! Ga terug naar je moeder als je geen discussie aandurft eikel!01:16
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xavihi, somebody can say me how i can see my kubuntu version??01:20
xavino kde version01:20
xavito see if it's breezy or dapper01:20
abattoirxavi: click on Help on any KDE application->About KDE01:20
xavi...01:20
xavithis is the kde version01:20
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Update to KDE 3.5.4 complete :)01:21
abattoirxavi: to see the distro version, type 'lsb_release -a'01:21
gnomefreakHawkwind: good01:21
xavii want the kubuntu version, 5.10 or 6.0601:21
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xaviok abattoir, lots of thanks!! xDD01:21
abattoirxavi: :)01:22
abattoirugh01:22
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kameronkanyone need help?01:27
HawkwindNo01:28
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gemidjylol01:28
gnomefreakis there a way to recall what a command removed/installed? ~/.bash_history just shows commands01:28
gnomefreakHawkwind: maybe he needs help lol01:29
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Isn't it logged in some apt log ?01:29
gnomefreakHawkwind: hence why i ask01:29
gnomefreak;)01:29
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gnomefreakvar/log/apt?01:30
lenscould someone look at this and tell me if it's normal or something I need to fix...01:30
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lenshttp://pastebin.ca/10454001:30
gemidjywhat are u asking gnomefreak?01:30
Hawkwindgnomefreak: No idea. I'm relatively new to the apt world so I don't know the answer.  Just guessing of places I'd look01:30
gnomefreakgemidjy: i need to know what update did. what packages it removed/installed01:30
gemidjygnomefreak: ls -lh /var/cache/apt/archive and see the dates/hour of creation01:31
gemidjyeasy way01:31
gnomefreakok01:31
gnomefreakty01:31
gemidjynp01:31
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: /var/cache/apt/archives is the actual directory :P01:32
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gnomefreakits empty01:33
gnomefreaknot good01:33
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acojlowhere to find good description of xorg.conf modules?01:36
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gemidjyman01:36
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jobleysdoes anyone here use splashy01:38
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jobleys!splashy01:38
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto01:38
jobleysi dont think i even have usplash, all i c is the words kubuntu a blue bar and the verbose stuff01:39
abattoiri guess that *is* usplash01:39
abattoirhi timi :)01:40
jobleyshow...01:40
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abattoirhuh?01:41
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jobleyshowd u know it was me again01:41
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jobleysim on my windows comp01:41
abattoirwell, :)01:41
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jobleysis it that whois thingy01:41
jobleysthat doesnt even work on this client01:42
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jobleysno seriously though..howd you know01:42
abattoiryou think, i'd be doing a whois for every person who comes in and goes out?01:42
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Yoda_Da_CodaHey everyone!01:43
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Yoda_Da_CodaI need to find out something about Kubuntu/Ubuntu01:43
kameronki seem to be having some trouble installing the proprietary codecs...01:43
jobleysabbatoir im guessing you it shows you alternate names or something....01:44
kameronki can't get mp3 files to play in anything but foobar2000 (under wine), and vlc media player01:44
Yoda_Da_Codais it possible to download updates/packages to a flash disk or other media so that i can then transfer them to another computer (the other computer is not on the internet)01:44
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abattoirkameronk: it should play out-of-the-box in xmms, and for amarok, you'd need to install libxine-extracodecs(and libmad0)01:45
kameronkthank you, abattoir01:45
kameronki think it works in xmms too01:45
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abattoirYoda_Da_Coda: yes, it is possible, fo example, you can burn a cd full of .debs, and then use apt-cdrom to add it as a repo01:46
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abattoirYoda_Da_Coda: man apt-cdrom should help you more...01:46
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abattoir'man apt-cdrom'01:46
Yoda_Da_Codaabattoir: ok...  but how do i put them onto a CD (and is it possible to use a flash disk instead)?01:47
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abattoirYoda_Da_Coda: i think if you put the debs in a folder(or in the root dir) apt-cdrom would scan and 'structurise' it... about the flash disk, let me look it up01:49
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abattoirYoda_Da_Coda: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46282 should help01:50
Yoda_Da_Codaabattoir: thanks, i'll have a look at it!01:52
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kameronka quick poll for everyone: what is your favorite media player?01:56
obf213Kaffeine01:57
obf213hey anyone know why i have to messege nickersevre everytime i log in01:57
obf213when i type in my passwrod its says no channel or somethng01:58
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ryanakcaobf213: /msg nickserver identify password                    not             /msg nickerservre identify password01:59
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obf213so do spell nickserver wrong...01:59
obf213ive done that like ten times02:00
Healotnickserv is the nick02:00
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obf213it used to work i would just type /msg NickServe IDENTIFY <****>02:01
obf213now it says no channel02:01
obf213no biggy i guees02:01
rOObtry /ns02:01
ryanakcaimpossible... it's always been nickserv02:01
Hawkwindnickserve has NEVER been a nick on any IRC network that I know of02:01
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rOOb./ns help02:01
obf213o ic02:01
HawkwindrOOb: Not all clients support /ns, especially irssi and bitchX02:01
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rOObHawkwind, yup.....figured id throw it out there still ;D02:02
bobbyyuIs it impossible to share from a Windows drive from Samba?02:02
obf213its just NickServ...i added an e02:02
bobbyyuI want to make it so that even when I'm in Kubuntu, I can share my Windows drives02:02
Hawkwindbobbyyu: So use samba02:02
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bobbyyuI am... things are not as well as they should be02:03
ryanakcabobbyyu: that's the point of samba... accessing other samba shares02:03
bobbyyuOK02:03
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bobbyyuMy Windows PC can't access my Samba Shares02:04
bobbyyuIt's an XP Professional02:04
ryanakcakk, open up kcontrol02:04
rOObhmm interesting.....traceroute works fine in kubuntu....in mandriva it never saw past my router02:04
ryanakcarOOb: *cough*... mandriva?02:05
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ryanakcarOOb: just joking... mandriva is good... used to use it :)02:05
bobbyyuAlready opened02:05
rOObyea mandriva......i used to use that till about a month ago02:05
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rOObryanakca, hehe yea its a pretty solid stro02:05
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ryanakcarOOb: I just found that having to run a whole lot of different commands to install stuff... rpmi, rpmf (I think.. not sure about the commands).. instead of just aptitude or apt.. I couldv'e used yum... mind you02:06
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ryanakcabobbyyu: ok, Internet and Settings -> Samba. Click administrator mode and enter your password02:07
unlucky1how do you add multiverse repositories to adept?02:07
rOObryanakca, oh yea this is my 1st time using apt-get and all i can say is wow........makes the rest look bad hehe02:07
rOObyast,urpmi,yum.....02:08
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ryanakcarOOb: were kindof offtopic... talk about it in #kubuntu-offtopic ?02:08
rOObi did too....till  i used apt-get02:08
rOObsure02:09
ryanakcarOOb: even better than apt-get (imo)... aptitude... run "sudo apt-get install aptitude"02:09
rOObinteresting02:09
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wolfmanzis there a way to control the icons in the system tray in terms of where each app sits in the tray?02:11
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Mytho-xpolas :P302:15
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obf213what does userpace application mean02:21
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richardobf213: do you mean userspace application?02:23
obf213yes02:23
obf213what differece is that than any other application02:23
richardafaik, most applications are userspace. this means they don't have direct access to the kernel02:24
obf213ok02:24
obf213if its an app then should be able to open it right02:24
obf213it says usplash is a userpace application, i run usplash but nothing happens....02:25
richardyou mean YOU should be able to open it? yes!02:25
obf213no error message, just nothing pops up02:25
wolfmanzabattoir is there a way to control the icons in the system tray in terms of where each app sits in the tray?02:26
richardi think the usplash-developer is online: Seveas02:26
obf213ok02:27
richardI haven't got it installed02:27
obf213 ihave all this stuff in adept that installed about you usplash by defualt yet i dont see it as an app anywhere02:27
Seveasrichard, usplash is developed by Matthew Garrett and a bit by Scott James Remnant -- I have plans to make theming support for it rock but that depends on Scotts upstart/bootlog work02:28
richardaha02:28
Seveasso I am not usplash developer yet 02:28
Seveasyou CAN run usplash any time you want02:28
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richardsorry, I just saw a big picture on your website. obviously, I'm too lazy to actually read02:28
richardobf213, so you have usplash installed, but you can't run it?02:29
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obf213richard, yeah02:31
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obf213it says i have all this stuff installed like i can choose my grub usplash, but thats not program anywhere.02:32
richardI've just installed it02:32
Dr-Linuxwoww02:32
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obf213alright tell me waht happens02:32
Dr-Linuxi like this ubuntu system,02:32
obf213Seveas how do i open it02:33
richarddoesn't do anything, but then again, I don't know what's supposed to happen02:33
Dr-Linuxcurrently i'm running it via  CD :)02:33
obf213live cd eh?02:33
richardALT-F2 -> usplash: nothing02:33
Dr-Linuxobf213: yeah02:33
Seveassudo usplash -c02:33
richard'usplash' in Yukuake: nothing02:33
Seveasexit with alt-f702:33
obf213ok02:33
Dr-Linuxnow i wanna installed it for sure :)02:33
Dr-Linuxbut i have a question02:33
Dr-Linuxanybody can help me please?02:34
richardsudo usplash: strange graphical behaviour02:34
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obf213jeez that was wiered02:34
Seveasrichard, that's normal. it switches to VT8 to display usplash02:34
obf213i thought the comp froze for a second02:34
richardwhat's VT8?02:34
obf213well it showed my the splash i normally c02:34
Seveasi have a script here to display text/progress in usplash maybe I can find it02:35
obf213but ti didnt give me any choices to chagned02:35
obf213and then it took a while for it to go away02:35
Dr-Linuxi have 4 drives each is 15GB , i wanna installed it on very first drive, i don't wanna both/format last 3 drives, bcoz i have important data there02:35
Seveasobf213, what would you want to change?02:35
Dr-Linuxany  clue how can i do that? if it's possible?02:35
obf213just the bootsplash thats all02:35
obf213by default i ahve alll these upslash things installed in adept, like different bootsplashes and whatnot02:36
obf213so it would be cool if i could maybe see then, no?02:36
Seveashehe, ok you're missing a few things02:36
Seveasusplash is new and not many themes are available for it02:36
Seveasthe only ones i know are the ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu default02:37
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Admiral_Chicagohow can I uninstall openoffice?02:37
Seveasto change the theme: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so02:37
Seveassollowed by sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)02:37
Seveasfollowed*02:37
Admiral_Chicagoas in, whats the packagae name02:37
Admiral_Chicagois there a metapackage?02:37
SeveasAdmiral_Chicago, remove all packages starting with openoffice.org02:38
obf213whats the uname02:38
obf213thte name of the package02:38
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: openoffice.org02:38
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak, Seveas thanks02:38
Admiral_Chicagoi did sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org*02:38
Dr-Linuxhelloooooooooo02:39
Dr-Linuxanybody can answer my question please?02:39
obf213Seveas, is the (uname -r) the name of the thing i did02:39
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, what is your problem?02:39
Seveasobf213, just type in the commands verbatim02:39
obf213ok02:39
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: : friend currently i'm running kubuntu via live CD02:39
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i wanna install it  now, bcoz i like this  OS02:40
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: but i have total 4 drives 15GB each02:40
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i wanna install it on very first drive02:40
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Dr-Linuxi don't wanna format my other 3 drives bcoz i have important data there02:41
Admiral_Chicagohmm.02:41
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i tried, but no luck02:41
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, i don't think I understand your set up02:41
Admiral_ChicagoI mean I do, but I dont have your fdisk -ls02:41
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: actually i was using windows, so i can install windows on first drive .. but how can i do with this OS?02:41
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: what you  wanna know please tell me?02:42
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, wipe the drive you want linux on02:43
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: when i try to install this OS, it always try to format my all partitions02:43
Admiral_Chicagoand during the installer, use the ;argest continous free space02:43
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, You on dapper/02:44
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: my first partition is wiped ..02:44
Dr-Linuxalso swap created02:44
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Admiral_Chicagodapper?02:45
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: what's dapper?02:45
Admiral_Chicagothe latest stable build on linux02:45
Admiral_Chicagoerr ubuntu02:45
Admiral_Chicago6.0602:45
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i'm on kubuntu02:45
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, no the install CD02:46
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i came to irc via CD , to ask for help02:46
Admiral_Chicagoah02:46
Admiral_Chicagothere is an install icon on the desktop?02:46
Dr-Linuxlet me see on  the CD's lable02:46
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, No02:46
Admiral_Chicagodon't open up the drive02:46
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: it's 6.0602:47
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, there is an install icon on the desktop02:47
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: yes i know that02:47
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ashridahheh. fun. leech a whole bunch of stuff from edgy, and kde's fonts are now not visible in lots of cases.02:48
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: what i can do everything .. format 1st drive with 14 GB .. and 1GB for swap02:48
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Admiral_Chicago1 Gb is over kill, you could get away with 51202:48
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: but other 3 drives are fat32  i don't   wanna format them02:48
obf213how do i edit my /etc/apt/sources.list....through adept....02:48
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ashridahchanging fonts and colour schemes don't seem to help02:49
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Admiral_Chicagoobf213, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:49
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: correct, but when it's going to install, it gives me error   "on drive 5 fat32 is not recognized or drive are busy"02:49
Admiral_Chicagofat32 is a windows partition02:50
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i know02:50
Dr-Linuxbut other 3 drive i don't wanna format ..02:50
Admiral_Chicagono, i'm thinking aloud02:50
ashridahso yeah. anyone know what the font issue in edgy might be?02:51
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i have important data on all fat32 drives, i don't wanna format them02:51
Dr-Linuxalso i wanna install kubuntu .. not sure what should i do02:51
obf213ok i added the lines. does write out mean save...02:51
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: not sure how can i do something that this system should not see those 3 fat32 drives02:52
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i'm trying to do it since last weak but no luck, so i came here to ask,02:53
Dr-Linuxif i have no other option that obevously i need to install windows again :S02:53
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Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, let me think about this02:53
ashridahnow this is interesting, it does actually happen in gnome apps too.02:53
ashridahhm02:53
bl3ssinghello guys, it's me again. :)02:54
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: sure dude02:54
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bl3ssingif I delete all the users in the group users list, will anything bad happen? :D I just want there to be 2 users: the root and the ME. :)02:54
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bl3ssingHere Roselle, New Jersey. :D02:54
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Dr-Linuxbl3ssing: i don't think there is any problem with doing that02:55
bl3ssingcan anybody send me the kubuntu 6.0.6 kit through the net? please?02:55
bl3ssingthanks Dr-Linux02:55
Healotthose users have specific meaning to the OS... don't delete the exisiting entry (the default users)02:56
Dr-Linuxbut not sure about this OS, but you can have only root user on linux02:56
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, you tried "partition using largest free space"02:56
Healotdelete user hal? you can't mount volume automagically :-02:56
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: no i didn't02:56
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, give that a spin02:56
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: but i have seen this option02:56
bl3ssinghummm ... thanks Healot. Dr-Linux ... are you really a DR? :D I think it is my fault. Not being enough specified about what I want, so ... you're forgived Dr-Linux. :D02:57
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: hhm.. should i remove first the ext3 and swap that i have already created for this system?02:57
Admiral_Chicagowipe the part of the partition you want Linux to go on02:58
obf213hrmm i edit my source.list to add a new respository, it said ifetched info from them but it cant find any packetegs02:58
bl3ssinganother question: "I want to copy/paste on the same partition (it is a fat32 partition), but I'm not allowed. I can only read the files, but not deleting, moving ... to a linux partition. What can I do to move files from here to there and from there to here?"02:58
obf213packages.02:58
Dr-Linuxbl3ssing: heh, i'm just fine with linux OS having lot of servers, but i'm  trying this new  system at my home PC, once i have it on my HDD, i'll play  around :)02:58
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bl3ssingheheheh, you're funny Dr-Linux ... thanks anyway. I'll be your little boy, and you'll be the one who's beating the basket BALL! :D02:59
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: i'm going to try , with the hope it will not delete my data from fat3202:59
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, look at the Qparted program02:59
bl3ssingDr-Linux, ... what linux OS are you trying now? :)02:59
Admiral_Chicagoin the K menu02:59
Dr-Linuxbl3ssing: RHEL 4 for my all about 40 servers ..03:00
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: okey ,03:00
Dr-LinuxAdmiral_Chicago: be here, i'll report you .. as you know i'm on  CD and process is kinda slow :)03:01
Dr-Linuxopss03:01
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Dr-Linuxbl3ssing: right now i'm trying Kubuntu03:01
Admiral_ChicagoDr-Linux, maybe you can tell me later03:05
Admiral_Chicagoi have to get out of here03:05
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triggerfxLOL?03:07
triggerfxkubuntu owns.03:07
bl3ssingDr-Linux, can't you send me please the Kubuntu 6.0.6, please? :) My computer's sick and ... needs a Kubuntu medicine.03:08
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nonotutubonsoir03:09
nonotutuj'ai un souci pour l'install du paquet libxine-extracodecs03:10
nonotutuil est introuvable03:10
nonotutualors que j'ai activ tous les dpts03:10
nonotutuun gnie dans le coin ?03:10
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bl3ssingcan anybody tell me: "why on earth I can't get into Adept so that I could install/uninstall things I might need/not need ... on my HPnw8000 Notebook (I mean ... Laptop) and .. .of course, I mean my Computer (which's not a PC)! :D"03:11
bl3ssingI tried to kill any adept process... there's noone.03:11
bl3ssingwhat can I do now?03:11
bl3ssingI need a Doctor in here ... I mean, into the brain of my Laptop!03:12
bl3ssing:D03:12
CheeseBurgerManubotu: tell nonotutu about fr03:12
DrBairbl3ssing: you are running it as root correct?03:12
nonotutuif nobody is speaking i can't guess03:12
nonotutubande de bougnouls03:12
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bl3ssingnope...03:14
bl3ssinghow can I run as a root?03:14
secleinteer"sudo..."03:15
bl3ssingnonotutu ... what do you want to say? I'm here to listen to your ENGLISH words, not spanish or whatever latin language ... :D03:15
secleinteerlol @ "whatever latin language"03:15
bl3ssinghow can I do it? to become a sudo? I mean ... wihtout the konsole?03:15
secleinteeryou have to use konsole03:15
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bl3ssinghehheeh, I'm a latin boy (ROMANIA - has anybody ever heard about this beautiful country in Europe?) but now, I reside in New Jersey, Roselle, 07203, 123west ... to many information. That's it! :D Anybody willing to take my home phone too? Call me than ... :D03:16
secleinteeryou "sudo apt-get install ..."03:17
Dr-Linuxbl3ssing: kubuntu is a free system,  someone gave me alot of CD's03:17
intelikey* Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that03:17
intelikey* the QT development package is correctly installed and03:17
intelikey* either install pkg-config or set the QTDIR environment03:17
intelikey* variable to the correct location.03:17
Healotnonotutu >> was asking how to install libxine-extracodecs and which repos he needs to update03:17
intelikeyi thought kde used Qt03:18
bl3ssinglol about a lot of CD's! No problem, you can send them to me too. :D I'll just copy them and return them to you as soon as possible. :)03:18
intelikeyor is it the QT-dev that is needed ?03:18
bl3ssingand where's this nonotutu right now? In Spain? :D03:18
Healotintelikey: sounds like you need kdelibs-dev and libqt*-dev03:18
Healot~03:19
Healot!find libqt03:19
ubotuFound: libqt-perl, libqthreads-12, libqt0-ruby1.8, libqt3-java, libqt3-jni (and 17 others)03:19
Healot!find libqt303:19
ubotuFound: libqt3-java, libqt3-jni, libqt3-compat-headers, libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt (and 6 others)03:19
Healot!find libqt3-mt03:19
ubotuFound: libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev, libqt3-mt-mysql, libqt3-mt-odbc, libqt3-mt-psql (and 1 others)03:19
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Healotlibqt3-mt-dev >> the one you need, intelikey03:20
feethi, i was wondering if there is a way for a KDE application (in my case, Konversation) NOT to share the current KDE style but rather use another one?03:20
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intelikeyok03:21
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intelikeyor libqt4-dev   even03:22
Healotdepends... since i don't see the qt version that it need03:23
bl3ssingwhile I'm installing/uninstalling certain things with Adept, I get this informations: Please, enter the number of the geographic area in which you live ... and there's Europe, America, Asia bla bla lba... And I'm trying to answer to the question, but ... the questions are keeping giving me troubles .. .instead of letting the Adept to work. What's the remedium for this beautiful and romanthic thing. :D03:23
Healotah03:24
intelikeywell i'm not going to install another 50m of crap just so i can run the kernel config in gui mode but thanks.03:24
Healotit just suggesting you to download from geographically nearest repos server03:24
Healotoh kernel dev03:25
Healotlibqt3-mt-dev then03:25
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Healotor you can always goto make <the cli option> ;-03:25
intelikeyyep  make menu_config03:26
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intelikeys/_//03:26
intelikeylol  Your display is too small to run Menuconfig!03:28
intelikeyIt must be at least 19 lines by 80 columns.03:28
bl3ssingwhile I'm installing/uninstalling certain things with Adept, I get this informations: Please, enter the number of the geographic area in which you live ... and there's Europe, America, Asia bla bla lba... And I'm trying to answer to the question, but ... the questions are keeping giving me troubles .. .instead of letting the Adept to work. What's the remedium for this beautiful and romanthic thing. :D03:28
bl3ssinghas anybody any idea about this bug?03:28
bl3ssinga bug in my kitchen ... Wuaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh .... Mammmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!03:28
bl3ssing;d03:28
bl3ssingthanks healot. I03:29
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bl3ssingI've seen you were speaking to me. My glasses maybe're ... too WIDE OPEN (or maybe my EYES)!03:30
bl3ssing:D03:30
bobbyyuHow can I access directories with a space in shell?03:31
bl3ssingas a root, I want to get to the Desktop directory. How can I do that? From konsole when I'm typing dir, the results'll be like: dbootstrap_settings ...03:31
bl3ssingsimple bobbyyu :03:31
intelikeyescape the space  or  quote the name.03:31
bl3ssingfollow me: are you with me?03:31
bl3ssingnooooooo intelikey ....03:31
ryanakcawho do I send kde 3.5.4 errors to?03:31
bobbyyuThank you03:31
gregDoes anyone know of a itunes musicstore-type place that's linux freindly? I'm sick of screwing around with gnutella.03:32
bl3ssingallow me to introduce my intelli words ... : ok bobbyyu, I was ready to respond to you, but seems you got it. That's perfect.03:32
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bl3ssingas a root, I want to get to the Desktop directory. How can I do that? From konsole when I'm typing dir, the results'll be like: dbootstrap_settings ...03:32
bl3ssingcan anyone give me an answer, if I please ... that anyone?03:33
bl3ssing:)03:33
bl3ssingI'll send you Bill Gates ... if you'll help me.03:33
bl3ssing:03:33
bl3ssing:d03:33
Healothe will03:33
Healotwell with charity of course03:33
bl3ssinggates will never help me with linux, too inloved with it. :D03:33
bl3ssinglol'bout the charity.03:33
bl3ssingheheheh03:33
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intelikeybl3ssing if. you will stop typing for a minute i'll answer that03:33
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intelikeythe dirrectory you are looking for is in /home/<username>/03:34
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intelikeyalso if you copy files to there, create files there, or move files to there, as root   root will own them and the user will have no permissions to them.   use chown <username> <file>    after any gile work.03:36
obf213i just installed splashy and ran it...it semi worked03:36
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obf213it owuld show the bootpslah then back to text, the back to the bootpslash.03:36
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intelikeygile  hah03:38
intelikeyoh well.03:38
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intelikeyi got to get out of this gui,   gui's don't like me.03:39
DaSkreechguirls don't like him?03:39
bobbyyuHey, my Windows box tells me that my Samba shares are inaccessible03:40
wolfmanzDaSkreech is there a way to control the icons in the system tray in terms of where each app sits in the tray?03:40
bl3ssingintelikey, thanks for information.03:40
bl3ssingworking hard now.03:40
gregso....how about buying mp3s with linux? any ideas?03:40
bl3ssingyou can do it very simple greg ...03:40
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Sure Open them in that order :)03:40
bobbyyuI used chmod to change the permission03:40
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bobbyyuBut to no avail03:40
bl3ssinggo on net, on any browser and ... find it.03:41
DaSkreechgreg: Eh?03:41
wolfmanzDaSkreech that dont work these things end up in different orders every time i reboot.03:41
bl3ssinghow can I get in my home/username directory as a root?03:41
gregDaSkreech: yeah is there an itunes musicstore type place to buy mp3s?03:41
gregwith linux03:42
DaSkreechgreg: Emusic?03:42
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DaSkreechwolfmanz: Not sure. Why does it matter to you?03:42
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DaSkreechHaha03:42
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DaSkreechjasonlam: I know a Jason Lam :)03:42
ubuntuw00t03:43
DaSkreechHe's not in Canada as far as I know03:43
wolfmanzDaSkreech i like things to be in order03:43
DaSkreechwolfmanz: How do you want them arranged?03:43
ubuntu1111103:44
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gregDaSkreech: ok googling Emusic....03:44
DaSkreechubuntu: Have a question?03:44
bl3ssinghow can I get in my home/username directory as a root?03:44
gregok i might give it a shot. thanks03:44
wolfmanzDaSkreech klipper , volume , cpu mon , net mon , Koversation , gaim03:44
DaSkreechwolfmanz: You want them in that order?03:45
wolfmanzDaSkreech ya03:45
DaSkreechbl3ssing: cd into it03:45
DaSkreechwolfmanz: I have a way but it's annoying03:45
bl3ssingbut ... from root ...03:45
DaSkreechbl3ssing: Do you mean from / or you are the user root?03:46
bl3ssingDaSkreech,  you're right. as a root, I want to get to the Desktop directory. How can I do that? From konsole when I'm typing dir, the results'll be like: dbootstrap_settings ...03:46
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DaSkreechbl3ssing: Do you know the users desktop you want to Cd into?03:47
_czarHow can I change the trash icon that appears on the task bar?03:47
bl3ssingyeap03:47
DaSkreechbl3ssing: cd ~<username>/Desktop03:47
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DaSkreech_czar: Far as I know it's in your theme03:48
bl3ssingcool ... Thanks DaSkreech  (thanks man/girl ... are you a man/girl?)03:48
bl3ssing:)03:48
_czarDaSkreech: Thanky.03:48
DaSkreechNo I don't think I'm a mangirl03:48
wckdkl0wnhow do you kill an application?03:48
DaSkreechbl3ssing: You could use pwd next time to know where you are :)03:48
Agiosit is questionable that one should even be root if they don't know how to naviigate directories03:49
DaSkreechwckdkl0wn: What kind of application?03:49
intelikeyi think i should go back to mandrake 9.0    at least i liked it.03:49
DaSkreechAgios: Tell me about it03:49
DaSkreechAgios: Experience is a quick tutor though03:49
wckdkl0wni installed wine and then winamp now winamp took over my screen and locked up03:49
DaSkreechwckdkl0wn: Normally I'd say Alt+Ctrl+Esc03:50
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Agiostry xmms and save yourself a lot of disk space and cpu03:50
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DaSkreechprobably want to kill wine though03:50
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wckdkl0wnthats fine03:50
wckdkl0wnlol03:50
DaSkreechgnomefreak: kdefreak!! :)03:50
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wckdkl0wnits gone03:50
wckdkl0wnthats all i was worried about03:51
jeffreybNeed some help - I ran Adept to get updates - it pulled new kernel - now my nvidia graphics won't work - had to change back to the nv driver. Any ideas?03:51
intelikeyAgios unless they like to learn by the trial and reformat method03:51
Healoti drink WINE, and it nearly killed me03:51
gnomefreakDaSkreech: dont have it anylonger03:51
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Hello?03:51
gnomefreakHawkwind: you have a sec?03:51
jeffreyband I'm stuck with 640x480 = yuck03:51
wckdkl0wn!paste03:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:51
gnomefreakRiddell: you still here?03:52
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intelikeyjeffreyb boot the older kernel03:52
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jeffreybintelikey - how?03:52
wckdkl0wncan someone tell me how to install this??  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1913603:53
jeffreybnoob :P03:53
intelikeyselect it at the grub/lilo prompt03:53
wckdkl0wnits so i can have sound with wine03:53
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Sure, what's up ?03:53
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gnomefreakHawkwind: i need the reop03:53
n3tfuryhi everyone.  straight up n00b with a question if someone has a moment or two :)03:53
jeffreybI don't get a prompt... ???03:53
gnomefreakrepo even03:53
Hawkwindgnomefreak: For 3.5.4 ?03:54
gnomefreaki got my gui back and ready to break more things03:54
gnomefreakyes03:54
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intelikeyjeffreyb hit [esc]  before the system starts to boot    as bios finishes up and grub takes over.   there should be a menu to choose from03:54
Hawkwindgnomefreak: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main03:54
gnomefreakty03:54
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: No problem :)03:54
jeffreybintelikey - cool - will try it - thanks!03:54
wckdkl0wnhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19136  where do i find that file at? i tryed to do apt-get install but couldnt be found03:54
intelikeyjeffreyb you can  read    man menu.lst     or man grub   for more info on that.03:55
intelikey(assumes default boot loader)03:55
n3tfuryi would like fluxbox on kubuntu.  can it be done or do i need to go back to ubuntu?03:56
wckdkl0wnn3tfury: i did fluxbox a while back before so it can be done just i dunno how to do it.. but it is possible03:56
LeeJunFanugh, kubuntu stinks - everything works great except the one thing I really want it to do.03:56
n3tfurylol what's that?03:56
LeeJunFann3tfury: my laundry.03:56
LeeJunFan:)03:57
gnomefreakok ty running updates now03:57
n3tfury@wckdkolwn: i tried apt-get and no dice on flux03:57
n3tfuryhaha laundry :P03:57
dakowhere would I go to ask about amarok?03:57
intelikeyn3tfury it can be done.  and is very simple    sudo apt-get install fluxbox03:57
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n3tfuryno go. intelikey - i must not be enabling the correct repositories?03:57
LeeJunFandako: what do you need to know about amarok?03:57
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intelikeyn3tfury you may not have the universe repository enabled.03:57
n3tfury*checks*03:58
intelikey!info fluxbox03:58
ubotufluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB03:58
ryanakcadako: I'd ask here first... then and only then go to #amarok03:58
dakoI am trying to look at lyrics, but am kinda a noob with this,  but the scripts are not installed03:58
intelikeyn3tfury i like blackbox  the parent to fluxbox.03:59
n3tfurythe only repos i don't have enabled are the backport ones.03:59
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n3tfuryorlly? parent eh?  hm.03:59
intelikeyn3tfury and did you   sudo apt-get update    after you edited the sources.list ?04:00
n3tfuryi didn't edit the sources.list - i just enabled them in adept04:00
intelikeyit doesn't take affect untill you update the database.04:00
n3tfurydo i need to do that too? or is that the same.04:00
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intelikeyjust update04:00
intelikeyadept has an update button i'm sure...04:01
n3tfuryok, what i did was enabled all but the backport ones, and clicked "apply"04:01
n3tfurythat should have been good to go.04:01
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n3tfuryi close that, open a terminal and do an apt get and it says it can't find the package "fluxbox"04:02
Healot!find fluxbox04:03
ubotuFound: fluxbox04:03
dptHello everyone04:03
Healot!info fluxbox04:03
ubotufluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB04:03
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intelikeyHealot i just did that  ^^04:03
n3tfuryyeah, twice now, but do i need to just enable all the repos?04:04
n3tfuryi just thought the backport ones were archives or something.04:04
dptanyone uses opera here? I have opera and the fonts, the look ugly, can't zoom a lot cuz many titles can't be read and there's almost no line spacing in may web pages, in gnome, with ubuntu, opera worked great, but it's getting me upset, anyone know how to fix that?04:04
intelikey^^^   repository universe,04:04
dptiu haven't been able to find anythign about fixing fonts and line spacing in opera an amsn in kde, kubutun. anyone knows about the topic?04:04
intelikeyit's in the universe suposiroty04:04
wolfmanzDaSkreech whats your idea?04:05
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intelikeyn3tfury may i sujest you edit /etc/apt/sources.list   and  apt-get update04:06
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n3tfuryyeah, i'm checking that out as we speak.04:06
n3tfurythx for your patience man04:06
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DaSkreechwolfmanz: See the little up arrow on the strip to the left of the system tray?04:06
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intelikeyn3tfury sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fluxbox04:06
wolfmanzyup04:07
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DaSkreechdako: Hello04:08
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Ok Configure System tray04:09
RawSewageIm still awake04:09
wolfmanzDaskreech ok04:09
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Remove all the icons then add them back in the order you want them04:09
dakosorry04:09
DaSkreechdako: Did you get an answer?04:09
dakono, not yet.am reading the help file04:10
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DaSkreechdako: You want to get more lyrics scripts?04:10
DaSkreechdako: Or You Just want to get any lyrics?04:10
dakojust trying to get the ones that it list working04:10
DaSkreechdako: Which Amarok do you have?04:10
dako1.4.004:11
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Let me know if it works04:11
abattoirdako: none of the scripts work?04:11
dakono, get error 12704:11
dakobrb, need to eat04:11
abattoirdako: you have ruby installed?04:11
intelikeywhere is the source to "kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k6" ???04:12
acojlowhere to search irc channels on social science topics?04:12
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abattoiracojlo: /list and then search...04:12
denisbris possible to use the version of developing of the kubuntu ???04:12
wolfmanzDaSkreech you cont do to much with configure desktop you can move them to hidden icons but even doing that and putting them back i cant get them in the right order04:13
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Hmm Worked for me04:13
DaSkreechwolfmanz: I'd remove one and then put it back04:13
Hawkwindacojlo: /msg chanserv list *search-term-here*  <~~With the * makes it easier04:13
DaSkreech wolfmanzthen the next one and put it back04:13
DaSkreechEtc04:13
wolfmanzya i did that and still cant get the right order04:13
abattoirdenisbr: yes, if you are comfortable w/ X suddenly not working one day :P04:13
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Werd04:14
DaSkreechIf anyone wants me ping me04:14
intelikeyah i see it.04:14
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intelikeykernel-source-2.4.27 <--- there04:14
abattoirDaSkreech: hi ;)04:14
abattoiror rather, bye :P04:15
DaSkreechabattoir: Hi04:15
DaSkreechabattoir: gone?04:15
abattoirDaSkreech: i thought you were going afk...04:15
n3tfurysorted.  so blackbox or flux?04:15
DaSkreechabattoir: I'm ak but afi04:15
acojlocool :)04:15
DaSkreechlnxkde: Go shower!!04:16
DaSkreechHeh heh heh04:16
abattoirDaSkreech: :)04:16
denisbrabattoir: and how to for use the version in the developing?04:16
intelikeyn3tfury both :)04:17
abattoirdenisbr: change your distribution to 'edgy' in sources.list, and then after an update, do a dist-upgrade...04:18
abattoirdenisbr: but i'm again warning you of the risks, if you understand them... then its ok :)04:18
n3tfuryhehe i'm gonna try them both just for the heck of it.  thanks again inteli for your help and the rest.04:18
intelikeyn3tfury do an   apt-cache search blackbox     and look at the packages listed  also   for fluxbox    :)04:19
n3tfuryokies04:19
denisbrabattoir: I agree the risks, more I go to use04:19
abattoirdenisbr: :)04:19
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HawkwindRisk taker!04:20
intelikeyand come back and say why is broke04:20
abattoirhi Hawkwind04:20
HawkwindHey there abattoir04:20
intelikeywreckless even04:21
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DaSkreechdenisbr: And as a advisory start hanging around ubuntu+104:22
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denisbrDaSkreech: sorry??04:23
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DaSkreechdenisbr: I advise to hang around #ubuntu+104:24
intelikey/join #ubuntu+104:24
denisbrDaSkreech: intelikey ok, I go to access the channel04:25
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obf213so splashy was a nightmare....04:28
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dakoabattoir I don't know if I have ruby installed04:33
abattoirdako: check in adept04:33
dakook04:33
abattoirdako: or do a 'apt-cache policy ruby'04:33
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dakono, I do not have ruby installed04:34
abattoirdako: install it, and then see if the scripts work04:34
Healotruby like diamonds? hehe04:35
dakoOK.will install ruby04:36
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dakoawsome, thank-you very much04:36
abattoirdako: glad to be of help :)04:37
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Admiral_ChicagoI updated to the Edgy right now on a test partition04:40
Admiral_Chicagonow X server wont start04:40
Admiral_Chicagoanything I can do about that?04:40
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abattoirAdmiral_Chicago: what's the error msg?04:40
Healotdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?04:40
abattoireven though this isnt the official channel for it04:40
Admiral_Chicagothere are a few packages that are "held back" in the apt-get update & system upgrade04:40
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Admiral_Chicagoabattoir there is an edgy channel/04:41
abattoirAdmiral_Chicago: yeah, mostly python stuff, but what's the error message?04:41
abattoirAdmiral_Chicago: #ubuntu+1 i guess04:41
Admiral_ChicagoCan not connect to server04:41
Admiral_ChicagoError 304:41
Admiral_Chicagomy guess is that since some packages are upgradeable, but not upgraded, thats causing the problem04:41
abattoirAdmiral_Chicago: anything mentioning your video driver ?04:42
abattoirAdmiral_Chicago: or fonts maybe?04:42
Admiral_Chicagoabattoir no04:42
abattoirok, come over to ubuntu+104:43
Admiral_Chicagois there a command to force packages to upgrade if they wont upgrade04:43
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matttttttdoes the kubuntu CD come with an uninstall option?04:44
denisbrI am using the notebook Acer Aspire 3620 series, How I founded the module is enable of the wireless board?04:45
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abattoirdenisbr: i'd expect it to be a broadcom chip04:46
intelikeymattttttt not really.   just delete the partition/s that it installed on04:46
DaSkreechmattttttt: All OS Cds Do04:46
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intelikeyDaSkreech oh really ?04:47
abattoirdenisbr: lspci should give you a clue04:47
DaSkreechYeah04:47
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matttttttintelikey: I realize that, but how do I delete the partition? can i use the live CD to do that?04:48
intelikeyDaSkreech and how do you run the uninstaller for ubuntu ?04:48
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unix_infidelformat C:\04:48
intelikeyyes you can mattttttt   fdisk  or cfdisk  and even gparted04:49
DaSkreechRun till you reach the partitioning section blow away the partition then reboot the PC04:49
denisbrabattoir: this 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3) is results for lspci for board wireless04:49
abattoirdenisbr: aah, ok, its an IPW then04:49
DaSkreechWorks with all oses that have a CD04:49
intelikeyunix_infidel i like fdisk better  :)04:49
unix_infidelintelikey: well, you said uninstall windows.04:49
matttttttsounds good, thanks.04:49
DaSkreechDoesn't work with windows 3.1 though :-( It just wipes everything ANAIR04:49
unix_infidelthere's no such thing as an uninstaller in linux, you remove the binary, eg apt-get remove :P04:50
DaSkreechmattttttt: You do know how to work with partitions?04:50
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intelikeyunix_infidel that's kinda what i said.   you delete the partition/s that linux is installed on04:51
intelikeymore of an eraser than an uninstaller04:52
PokerFacePenguinIs everyone else here on freenode in the US experiencing extreme lag like me?04:52
unix_infidelPokerFacePenguin: pastebin your server information.04:53
intelikeyi have seen install cds with uninstaller programs that would more or less return the hdd to the start it was in befor the installation including other working os's   but not many have i seen04:53
matttttttDaSkreech: for the most part, yes :)04:54
DaSkreechGo to it then :)04:54
intelikeys/start/state/04:54
DaSkreechSee if you can get that most part of partitioning partly out of the way04:54
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dave!cli04:56
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:56
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daveIs there a summary of Basic Commands available in the installed KDE system or do I have to get it online?04:59
intelikeydave there are man pages04:59
daveintelikey: Is there a summary that will help me find a command if I don't know its name but I know what I want it to do?05:00
intelikeydave run  ls /*bin /usr/*bin | sort -u | less     for  a full searchable list of command/apps05:01
Healotor install xman >> i still find this aging X app useful/handy05:01
intelikeydave for that info better to ask in here or some other ##linux channel.05:01
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intelikeydave what do you want it to do ?05:02
intelikeyHealot yes xman has it's place    indeed.05:02
daveintelikey: I don't have anything specific now but I am curious to find things similar to DOS commands I know.  Yes, I am old.05:03
obf213this is a dumb quesiton, but it better to shut down your comp at night or just leave it on05:03
Kr4t05!avi05:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:03
intelikeydave old ?   broke 50 yet ?05:03
daveintelikey: I turn 50 in October.05:05
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intelikeyobf213 better is relative to purpose and end result     better how.    it generates less heat   uses less power when turned off...  but the cron schedular cant do schedualed mantainance while off and others cant access your files online when your box is off      so  better for what ?05:05
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ubuntuIs it possible to use the 6.06 kubuntu cd to do a server install, if so how?05:06
timiapparently my computer is incabable of "suspend"05:06
intelikeydave yeah ok. you're old then.   older than me.  :)05:06
timidoes anyone know how i can fix this05:06
intelikeyubuntu from shippit ?  no.05:07
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intelikeyubuntu the fact that it's (k)ubuntu  means it's  kde    for a server install you need the 'alternate' install cd    iirc05:08
daveintelikey: Thanks for the information.  I am going offline now.05:08
live95intelikey: so I can't do server install at the boot screen?05:08
intelikeylive95  not with the dapper pressed cd's from shipit   no.     and i agree that that is a very bad deal.  but don't blame me.05:10
live95intelikey: the one I have is not pressed, I downloaded and burned it myself05:10
live95I didn't understand what you meant by shippit05:11
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intelikeylive95 then it depends on the iso you dl'd05:11
[twb] test05:12
intelikey!TEST05:12
ubotuI know nothing about TEST - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:12
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live95intelikey: all I know is, I downloaded the 6.06 Kubuntu iso05:14
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intelikeylive95 then probably not.05:16
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intelikeylive95 i think the only iso that supports server install is the alternate   but again i'm not sure.05:17
RadiantFireyep...05:17
live95intelikey: All I need to test this is a way to type "server" at bootup05:17
RadiantFireyou are correct05:17
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live95RadiantFire: so that won't work with the kubuntu cd eh?05:18
RadiantFirelive95: it'll work with the alternate CD05:18
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RadiantFirei don't think server is on the desktop cd05:19
intelikeywho knows enough about linux to stop this from posting to console screen from a badblocks test in another console ?05:20
intelikey[4300168.248000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 6705:20
intelikey[4300169.449000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 7005:20
intelikey[4300170.850000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 7205:20
live95RadiantFire: how can I type server option at boot up, to test this?05:20
RadiantFireintelikey: try nohup or use a pipe05:21
timiintelikey your prolly the smartest guy on this think ;)05:21
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DaSkreech#@&%#(*@!!! COMPUTERS !@(&#$%!%#%05:21
RadiantFirelive95: there is an option on the dapper CD05:21
RadiantFirefor intall server on my alternate CD05:22
RadiantFirei don't beleive in the live CD, so I didn't use it05:22
intelikeyRadiantFire a pipe ?05:22
RadiantFire>05:23
RadiantFireor >>05:23
RadiantFirekind of like the joyous echo "text" >> file05:23
RadiantFirewhich appends text to a file called file05:23
intelikeyRadiantFire i did badblocks /device 2>/dev/null   it's not badblocks that's puking that out.05:23
intelikeyit's the kernel05:23
RadiantFireintelikey: then it means your kernel is spewing error messages05:23
RadiantFireintelikey: no wonder you are getting badblocks if the device itself is malfunctioning :-)05:24
intelikeyif it was the app it would stay in the same console    no?05:24
intelikeythese messages appear where ever you focus  tty#   doesn't matter which .05:25
intelikeyand yes i have been building new kernel  but this is the default05:26
intelikeyLinux zeos486 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i586 GNU/Linux05:26
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HealotLinux Healot 2.6.15-23-k8 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 11:49:40 UTC 2006 amd64 GNU/Linux05:28
AegeanLinuxDaSkreech: , how long do you think Xen will take to compile?05:28
DaSkreechWith any luck before I have children05:29
AegeanLinuxDaSkreech: that long?05:29
intelikeyand as for the "<RadiantFire> intelikey: no wonder you are getting badblocks if the device itself is malfunctioning :-)"   if you care to notice  the error states that it is  'fd0'  floppy disk.    it's not the device it's the disk.05:29
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ubuntuhelo05:29
live95To anyone whos tried both... now that Mepis 6 is based off of ubuntu repos, what are the major differences btw Mepis and Kubuntu? (performance/feature wise)05:29
AegeanLinuxHI ubuntu05:29
AegeanLinuxlike the LiveCD ?05:30
DaSkreechSorry I'm a little curt tonight. I'm not sure how long but it's a sizeable enough project for you to put on something hot to drink while it compiles05:30
RadiantFireer, I/O buffer is on the device05:30
RadiantFirenot the disk05:30
AegeanLinuxDaSkreech: KK, Thanks for the info, prob not as long as the whole of KDE to compile though, hey?05:30
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DaSkreechNo not quite as long as that05:30
RadiantFirewhole of kde takes hours...05:30
RadiantFirei've done it... several times05:31
AegeanLinuxMe two ;)05:31
DaSkreechRadiantFire: Built your own Kernel?05:31
RadiantFireyeah, that didn't take as long05:31
AegeanLinuxDaSkreech: Good :D05:31
intelikeyRadiantFire so i change the disk and no errors....   learn what you are talking about please.05:31
RadiantFireintelikey: the I/O Buffer is still on the device05:31
RadiantFireall disks have a device buffer05:31
RadiantFirew/e05:32
intelikeyit's scanning the device node for badblocks   duh...05:32
intelikeyi change the disk and presto the device node is error free......05:33
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intelikeyput in  a bad disk and  BAM!  the device node has i/o errors trying to scan it....05:33
intelikeyanyway.05:34
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intelikeyanyone know how to stop or divert those error messages ?05:35
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DaSkreechOk Suppose your hard drive gives no errors other than File systme errors when you scan it but you strongly strongly suspect it of being a bersted systemr borker?05:35
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sophie_any sound guru in kubuntu05:42
sophie_sound works fine but can't get concurent applications using the sound device05:42
sophie_exemple amarok + firefox = disaster05:43
sophie_xmms + amarok not working05:43
sophie_but kde application working together no problem05:43
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intelikeyalsa esd arts oss ???05:43
HealotWindows migrators + Ubuntu = an absolute disaster hehe05:44
intelikeykde is using arts   try that with the others05:44
sophie_intelikey: to be honest i'm confused about sound servers drivers05:44
sophie_intelikey: how to configure firefox to use arts05:44
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sophie_intelikey: how do u configure firefox to use arts05:44
intelikeysophie_ in the particular applications preferances05:45
intelikeyconfigure the app.05:45
intelikeyi don't use ff so i can't answer on that one.05:45
sophie_intelikey: thanks but no preferrence for firefox05:46
Healotff has no sound deamon config05:46
Healotthe KDE settings has that05:46
Healothence ff uses whatever kde uses05:46
intelikeyso inturpret the word05:46
sophie_Healot: i've tried artsdsp firefox05:46
sophie_artsdsp works only for binaries05:46
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archangel_anyone free to help with a sound card?05:47
archangel_audigy card is configured correctly05:47
archangel_and works, I just get no sound05:47
archangel_wierd05:47
sophie_Healot: if I have amarok runniong and run some google video = no sound05:48
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sophie_Healot: amarok is using xine05:49
sophie_Healot: amarok is using xine engine05:49
sophie_xine alsa arts oss i'm confused05:49
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archangel_I just wish everything was easy to configure with linux05:50
DaSkreechIt is as long as you expect it to be really realyl hard05:51
archangel_I got to ask for help with everything, I cant figure it out like with windows05:51
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sophie_archangel_: you'll get use to it and will be rewarded with your efforts, you will learn much more from the underlying os05:51
archangel_sophie_: I have had linux for a week and cant seem to get the hang of it.05:52
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sophie_archangel_: look at someone using xp for a week they can't figure out things also05:53
sophie_archangel_: give yourself some tiome05:53
intelikeyarchangel_ how many years did you spend learning windows ?     and how long have you been using linux ?       just a note, you will learn linux a lot faster if you forget everything you think you know about computers and realize that it wasn't about computers but about windows and 'linux is not windows.'05:53
DaSkreecharchangel_: So what's up?05:53
DaSkreecharchangel_: How about a deal :) Anything you have trouble figuring out I'll explain the concept behind it05:54
sophie_archangel_: anyway what do you need help with05:54
DaSkreechThen more things in the future should make more sense05:54
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obf213whts an xml parser05:54
archangel_sophie_: yeah, I guess.  I learn really fast and its a real downer not to be in the loop of things05:54
obf213i think ineed one for my bootsplash to work correctly05:54
archangel_I have 3 things.... sound needs to be heard (looks like it working though)05:55
sophie_Healot: I've got mplayer ff plugion working by setting sound to arts but now how the f&&?8 do I configure flash to use arts05:55
intelikeyxml=x markup language    a parser is software that reads and decyphers *     * in this case xml05:56
sophie_obf213: why bother with bootsplah when your computer is up ages05:56
archangel_video 3d hardware exceleration05:56
archangel_and macromedia05:56
archangel_flash05:56
archangel_ohh, and my printer05:56
archangel_lol05:56
sophie_archangel_: whats your 3dhardware05:57
archangel_other than that, I'm just peachy05:57
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archangel_Nvidea fx 5900xt05:57
sophie_ok easy05:57
intelikey!ati05:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:57
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DaSkreechWhat are the chances of pressing Alt+Ctrl+BkSpc by accident?05:58
archangel_ok cool05:58
archangel_thanx05:58
Healotback from taking quick shower05:58
sophie_DaSkreech: you want me to calculte the probabilties05:58
intelikeyDaSkreech it could happen    if you were reaching for  ctrlaltdel   :)05:58
DaSkreechSure :-) What did I miss?05:58
DaSkreechOh no I wasn't pressing Ctrl+Alt+Any Key05:59
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obf213anyone know wht this means xml_parser_text_handler: assertion `text_len > 0' failed05:59
sophie_DaSkreech: Alt+Ctrl+BkSpc just restarts your x server so what just kidding, there is way to disable06:00
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archangel_does KDE work like GNOME?  ie drivers. or is that a distro thing like packages?06:00
DaSkreechYeah but Iwas typing a report06:00
intelikeyhmmm nothing....06:00
abattoirintelikey: i guess you need to have X running to have all then fun :(06:01
abattoir:P06:01
intelikeysophie_ yes disable it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:01
abattoir*all the fun06:01
archangel_I tried gnome for a few hours. and from what I know of it..... it really sucks.06:01
intelikeyabattoir     yeah... ;/06:01
sophie_DaSkreech: Option "DontZap" "True"06:01
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sophie_DaSkreech: in Section "ServerFlags"06:02
sophie_abattoir: you don't run X06:02
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sophie_abattoir: I don't even run a terminal I type on a telex06:02
DaSkreecharchangel_: Ha ha Not really :)06:02
abattoirsophie_: well, when edgy's packges for it are broken, i have no option do i?06:03
intelikeysophie_ i dont.06:03
archangel_DaSkreech: Sorry dude, I had to make quick a judgement   :o)06:03
DaSkreecharchangel_: If you don't like it that's fine don't use it :)06:04
abattoirsophie_: you could say i can settle w/ dapper, but then, most of the stuff i need is found only in edgy... :(06:04
archangel_maybe is was the cooler icons06:04
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sophie_abattoir: seriously you run only a terminal no X06:04
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Lunar_Ravenwhen i play videos (say from youtube)..the sound doesn't match the mouths..lol?  How can I fix this?06:04
sophie_archangel_: once you get use to keyboard shortcuts and cli you don't care about kde or gnome06:04
archangel_hey can I install gnome software in kde?06:04
DaSkreecharchangel_: Yeah06:05
intelikeysophie_06:05
abattoirsophie_: yes, for now, but if you are looking for someone who seldom runs X, intelikey is the man...06:05
sophie_archangel_: yep no prob but gnome libs will have to installes06:05
intelikeyarchangel_ you bet.06:05
Lunar_Ravenanyoneeeeee06:05
Lunar_Raven?06:05
Lunar_Raven:P06:05
sophie_intelikey: u must be running irssi06:05
intelikeyarchangel_ you can install open source software in linux   yes you can.06:05
archangel_ok, I noticed that the 3d hardware support was all in gnome06:06
intelikeysophie_ bx06:06
sophie_Lunar_Raven: get a new mouth no just kidding same problem here has to do with arts06:06
Lunar_Ravenheh06:06
archangel_or 'through' gnome06:06
sophie_archangel_: gnome or kde has nothing to do with 3d hardaware x handles the 3d06:06
archangel_X= video display?06:06
archangel_x= hardware or software or both06:07
sophie_intelikey: irssi  + screen06:07
sophie_archangel_: X enables pretty graphics on screen kde and gnome are windows mangers06:08
archangel_sorry guys, I gotta get my 'learn' on06:08
sophie_archangel_: no problem06:08
intelikeysophie_ bx in the console06:08
archangel_gottcha06:08
sophie_intelikey: ok got it now bitch X06:08
sophie_sophie_: I prefer irssi easier learining curve06:08
sophie_sophie_: I'm old and slow06:09
sophie_intelikey: again talking to myself06:09
DaSkreecharchangel_: Linux is built in layers06:10
intelikeysophie_ links2 -g in the console with framebuffering  browse the net with graphics from the console    vlc plays vidios in the console full screen mode.    sox plays audio files      why would i want a gui ?06:10
DaSkreecharchangel_: You can take out any section of the layer and replace it without bothering the other layers06:10
archangel_wow cool, yet complex06:11
intelikeysophie_ i can do all this on a p1 100 mhz  in 64m ram with no swap     lol  spend you thousands on hardware.... lol06:11
archangel_what are these layers called?06:11
DaSkreecharchangel_: Kernel -> Shell -> Windowing Server -> Window Manager -> Desktop06:11
sophie_intelikey: I use AAlib to watch the matrix in mplayer console and 24 asperins06:12
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archangel_looks like they are in specific order too06:12
DaSkreechThey are06:12
obf213abbatoir you still never explained how you knew it was me even though i was using a windows comp that had none of my information06:12
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archangel_thats cool06:12
sophie_intelikey: never got framebuffering working in console06:12
intelikeysophie_ :)06:12
DaSkreechSo the kernel does the low level interaction to the hardware06:13
archangel_talk about ultimate customisation06:13
intelikeyobf213 ip06:13
DaSkreechThe shell allows the user to interact and run commands06:13
abattoirobf213: your system might change, your ip(^^^) might change, but there are certain observable characteristics that dont :)06:14
sophie_intelikey: I have been running a PII 450 and have just changed recently to used k7 2500+06:14
obf213hahah06:14
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archangel_can I take that I can use adept to get my drivers even though the help says to use synaptic?06:14
sophie_intelikey: compiling a kernel is a litle faster now06:15
DaSkreecharchangel_: Then the Windowing server allows you to have a GUI06:15
sophie_intelikey: just a litle06:15
abattoirarchangel_: of course :)06:15
intelikeysophie_ yeah actually at the moment i have mine hosed.  but give me a day or two...   i had reinstalled because of disk space   but that shouldn't be needed again for quite some time.06:15
archangel_looks like Ubuntu prefers gnome06:15
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willWhat's the command to purge wine from my system?06:15
intelikeyjust a little ?06:15
abattoirarchangel_: Ubuntu=GNOME Kubuntu=KDE :)06:15
intelikey:)06:15
sophie_will: sudo apt-get remove wine06:15
willThanks06:15
archangel_gotcha06:15
Lunar_Raventhank gawd for kubuntu06:16
DaSkreecharchangel_: The Window Manager paints the pretty buttons and scroll buttons etc06:16
intelikeyarchangel_ ubuntu is gnome kubuntu is kde ...06:16
intelikeyooops we dubbeled that.06:16
obf213hey how can i get my computer to suspend /standby06:16
archangel_ok06:16
OODintelikey: sudo apt-get uninstall -purge wine06:16
OODi beleive06:16
intelikeyxubuntu is xfce406:16
willsophie_: I get hte error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." when I do that06:16
OODwaot tat was to will06:16
Lunar_Ravenrun that06:16
DaSkreecharchangel_: And the desktop brings like applications together with a common philosphy and coding interface06:16
Lunar_Ravenheh06:16
OODwill that was to you06:16
Lunar_Ravendpkg --configure -a06:16
Lunar_Ravena problem occured somewhere06:17
archangel_I cant wait to look behind the curtan06:17
sophie_will: can you paste bn the output06:17
intelikeyOOD i don't have it installed :)06:17
OODintelikey: mixed you up with will somehow ;)06:17
archangel_interesting06:17
obf213abbatoir how do i get my computer to suspend then return06:17
DaSkreecharchangel_: So you can apt-get install a new kernel and update your hardware compatibilty and not touch anything else06:17
abattoirobf213: laptop?06:17
obf213i clicked suspend, then ic ouldnt get it to start back up06:17
archangel_nothing at all like windows06:17
obf213yes06:17
intelikeyyeah i saw... :)06:17
Ignite_archangel_, thats whats so good about it :P06:18
abattoirobf213: it might not be fully supported by your kernel/video driver/X version06:18
archangel_thats sweet06:18
abattoirobf213: which model? and make?06:18
intelikeylinux != windows06:18
DaSkreecharchangel_: now you have the Windowing Server that says what Windws can do and where they go06:18
obf213Dell E1405 integrated intel graphics06:18
lnxkdeDaSkreech : no shower for now, is time for chiken cordon blue :)06:19
DaSkreecharchangel_: You are using X right now. You can switch it out for XGL and have more calls to the 3D hardware06:19
lnxkdeand potato salad06:19
Lunar_Ravendoes XGL still suckup more memory/resources than just xorg?06:19
abattoirobf213: using kpowersave?06:19
DaSkreecharchangel_: Then switch out your window manager and you get Wobbly windows with real Physics06:19
Ignite_DaSkreech, but XGL is still alpha so ya know...06:20
obf213eerr Klaptop..06:20
obf213abattoir: klaptop06:20
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abattoirobf213: install kpowersave.. see if that helps06:20
Ignite_or it was last time i checked06:20
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archangel_explain wobbly windows with real physics06:20
OODaiglx is what's gonna be mainstream most likely06:20
DaSkreechIgnite_: Yah I know but he can still do it :)06:20
sophie_DaSkreech: archangel_ : Don't use XGL very unstable and not much added value but eye candy06:20
DaSkreecharchangel_: Oh you haven't seen that :)06:20
Lunar_Ravenis AIGLX as good as XGL?06:21
DaSkreechsophie_: I know :-P But the point is he can do it06:21
Lunar_Ravenwhat about it's memory usage06:21
Lunar_Ravenlol06:21
DaSkreechLunar_Raven: For lower end hardware06:21
Lunar_Ravenxgl make my pc too slow06:21
Lunar_Ravenohh06:21
intelikeyDaSkreech not meaning to open a can of worms or anything but would not your layer tree be more acurate with kernel > init > 1. console/shell   2. xorg  > display manager > window manager         for most systems ?06:21
OODit's an overall better implementation of xgl06:21
Ignite_DaSkreech, your wrong.. sorry06:21
intelikeythe 1 and 2 are branches that fork at the same point.06:21
archangel_all I know is kde and terminal, and terminal is where you type the commands06:21
archangel_lol06:21
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DaSkreechintelikey: No it wouldn't :-)06:21
Frederickfolks I'm having some problems with kmenu  after I minimize an app sometimes it just goes to back of another window and doesn't appear in the active apps list06:22
archangel_the only 'windows' I have aseen are in KDE and Gnome06:22
DaSkreechIgnite_: Where?06:22
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DaSkreecharchangel_: Those are desktops06:22
Ignite_Lunar_Raven, AIGLX is like XGL only its going to be/has been integrated into xorg, you can use compiz with it just like XGL, and its designed to work with any open source video card driver06:22
archangel_oh yeah, you told me that....... oops06:22
archangel_;O)06:22
sophie_Ignite_: How many open source 3d video can we count on one finger wait one!06:23
Ignite_sophie_, i would look that up if i was you06:23
willls06:23
Ignite_:P06:23
DaSkreechsophie_: Well you could use the loops of your fingerprint as a counter...06:24
sophie_Ignite_: On decent hardware that can handle feature of XGL06:24
DaSkreechIgnite_: Where was I wrong?06:24
DaSkreechintelikey: xorg should be replaced by windowing server06:24
Ignite_sophie_, i have a radeon 7000 with 32mb video ram and it handles AIGLX perfectly06:24
Lunar_Ravenah interesting06:24
DaSkreechintelikey: Why'd you have init in there?06:24
Ignite_DaSkreech, about AIGLX06:24
Lunar_Ravenis AIGLX as resource intensive as XGL?06:24
DaSkreechIgnite_: I said something about AIGLX?06:24
intelikeyDaSkreech are you calling init  the shell in that tree ?06:24
sophie_Ignite_: othe than ati tell me about another one?06:24
DaSkreechintelikey: YOu can swap out the init?06:25
OODXGL is very resource intensive, uses 200mb ram after a while of usage, and slows down a lot06:25
Lunar_Ravenyeah it does06:25
Lunar_RavenI have 256 mb of ram06:25
Lunar_Ravenheh06:25
Ignite_sophie_, i'm not having an argument, if you genuinely want to know then look it up, i'm not going to prove it because its a waste of time ;)06:25
sophie_sophie_: Intel no NVIDIA no, ATI on recent hard war eno06:25
sophie_Ignite_: agreed06:25
intelikeybecause it's seperate from the kernel and yet a layer in the stakc of processes that the system is made of DaSkreech06:25
obf213abbatoir whats the difference between suspend to ram and suspend to disk06:26
Ignite_DaSkreech, "<DaSkreech> Lunar_Raven: For lower end hardware"06:26
intelikeyDaSkreech yes you can swap out the init06:26
Lunar_Ravenah06:26
archangel_cant find repositories in adept06:26
DaSkreechAh06:26
Ignite_i assumed you were refering to AIGLX, sorry if you wern't06:26
intelikeyDaSkreech never boot with init=/bin/sh  ?06:26
osirisok.  this may be a dumb question, but here goes.  how would i install a samba server in kubuntu, so users can mount the shares (aka dont need root access to the box to mount the share)06:26
sophie_osiris: no dumb questions06:26
DaSkreechI was. It's a better solution for lower end hardware cause it works with open source drivers06:26
Ignite_!samba06:27
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:27
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah06:27
osiriswell, ive done samba in mandriva, but last time i tried it in kubuntu, i needed to be root to browse the shares06:27
DaSkreechIgnite_: I think that's correct.06:27
Ignite_osiris, read above ;)06:27
sophie_osiris: sudo apt-get install samba-common06:27
intelikeythen you used an alternate init06:27
intelikeyan interactive one.06:27
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osirisdo you think my smb.conf from mandriva would work in kubuntu06:28
DaSkreechI'm not sure that's what I meant but I'll take your word for it and check it out06:28
archangel_DaSkreech: cant find repositories in adept06:28
sophie_osiris: good chance if mount points are the same06:28
DaSkreecharchangel_: What are you looking for?06:28
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archangel_nvidia drivers06:28
intelikeyno it's true.  from that shell you could do every thing that the normal init does.06:28
osirisi can rewrite the mount points. i just wondered if there were any known differences06:28
DaSkreechDid you read !nvidia ?06:29
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DaSkreech!nvidia > archangel_06:29
sophie_osiris: I am not aware of any06:29
archangel_yeah, but it tells me how to do everything with a program I dont have06:29
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archangel_synaptic06:29
Kr4t05EasyTag is nucking futs...06:29
DaSkreechreally? :-)06:29
intelikeyOOD don't startx  your console will miss you....06:29
Ignite_archangel_, you should be able to use adept06:29
sophie_Kr4t05: use cli id3v2 or eyed306:30
archangel_where do I go?06:30
DaSkreech!ganluage06:30
ubotuI know nothing about ganluage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:30
DaSkreech!nvidia06:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:30
Ignite_archangel_, K menu -> Add/Remove06:30
Ignite_archangel_, K menu -> Add/Remove Programs*06:30
lnxkde!AIGLX06:30
ubotuI know nothing about AIGLX - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:30
DaSkreechIgnite_: That has the nvidia drivers?06:30
archangel_I'm there no06:30
Ignite_no idea06:30
archangel_oops I mean now06:31
sophie_Ignite_: I'm running dapper and don't see an Add/Remove thingy06:31
Ignite_sophie_, you sure?06:31
sophie_!GLX06:31
ubotuI know nothing about GLX - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:31
lnxkdenew to this conversation sorry if someone already asked..06:31
sophie_ubotu: Thanks got06:31
ubotuI know nothing about Thanks got - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:31
Ignite_!compiz06:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:31
DaSkreecharchangel_: Ah Ok you want to edit the repos in adept?06:31
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DaSkreecharchangel_: Adept -> manage repositories06:32
Kr4t05!botabuse06:32
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops06:32
sophie_Ignite_: maybe something is worng with my system but I have upgrated from ??? to breezy to dapper and not menu06:32
archangel_lol sorry if I sound like an idiot, but I'm looking for drivers for my nvidia06:32
OODarchangel: do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx06:32
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OODthen sudo nvidia-xconfig06:33
archangel_terminal --- right?06:33
OODand then just restart X06:33
OODyes in terminal06:33
archangel_k06:33
the_hammerodd06:33
OODbackup xorg.conf just in case06:33
the_hammerood oops06:33
the_hammer:)06:33
the_hammergot a mission for ya06:33
OODwhich is?06:34
Kr4t05I installed eyed3, how do I use it?06:34
lnxkdewhat I have to install for aiglx?06:34
the_hammercan ya help me installing megahal into my eggdrop?06:34
the_hammerafter ya help this person?06:34
sophie_Kr4t05: man eyed306:34
Ignite_Kr4t05, read the manual ;)06:34
OODi wouldn't know how, sorry06:34
archangel_I get a couple errors06:34
sophie_Kr4t05: what do you want to do exactly06:34
DaSkreecharchangel_: Let me know if that doesn't work :)06:34
archangel_doesnt work06:34
archangel_:o)06:34
Ignite_lol06:35
the_hammercan anyone help me install megahal into my bot?06:35
DaSkreecharchangel_: Did you add the restricted to the repositories?06:35
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Kr4t05sophie, it's a command line app?!06:35
Kr4t05sophie, :/06:35
sophie_Kr4t05: yep06:35
Kr4t05No thanks.06:35
archangel_lol, do what to who?06:35
sophie_Kr4t05: what do you want do with youe legal MP3s06:35
archangel_I guess not    :o)06:35
DaSkreecharchangel_: You have Add/Remove open?06:35
obf213abbatoir: i suspended to drive, and that screwed up everthing, comp just shut itself down, then when i rebooted i lost my proper resolution adn my wireless usb mouse all of a sudden doesntw ork06:35
archangel_yes06:35
DaSkreechclose it06:36
archangel_k06:36
Kr4t05sophie_: what ever I want?06:36
archangel_ok06:36
DaSkreechPress Alt+Space06:36
archangel_try again?06:36
DaSkreechType ad and press enter06:36
sophie_Kr4t05: Do you want to automatically tag your MP3 rename files?06:36
archangel_ahhh, sweet06:36
DaSkreechVery :-)06:36
archangel_what the heck was that?06:36
Kr4t05sophie, that would be nice06:36
DaSkreechKatapult06:36
Ignite_<3 katapult06:37
sophie_Kr4t05: have a look at ammarok06:37
DaSkreechIt's a secret weapon Shhhhh06:37
Ignite_<3 amarok06:37
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Ignite_hehe06:37
lnxkde:p06:37
DaSkreecharchangel_: It's open?06:37
archangel_ lol06:37
DaSkreechI guess you should know about the password by now :)06:38
OODarchangel_: did you get the nvidia driver?06:38
archangel_says add/remove, but everytime I type it goes away06:38
DaSkreecharchangel_: Just ype ad06:38
archangel_k06:38
DaSkreechIt should say Adept06:38
DaSkreechHa ha I didn't know that Add gave you Add/Remove :)06:39
DaSkreechWhen it says Adept press enter06:39
sophie_katapult is screwing my system06:39
Ignite_sophie_, how so?06:39
unix_infidelanyone here use gnome-chess to play on free chess networks?06:39
archangel_ok I'm there06:39
unix_infideli cant find any documentation how to set it up.06:39
HealotI don;t play chess :)06:40
archangel_cool shortcut06:40
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DaSkreechOk now look under the adept menu for Manage repositories06:40
obf213hey i suspended to harddrive and i lost my sound, and resolution06:40
Ignite_sophie_, if you want to close it, alt+space then ctrl+c then you get a menu :)06:40
obf213wht did i do06:40
archangel_only says quit06:40
archangel_1 option06:40
archangel_under adept06:40
DaSkreechWhat? :-(06:40
DaSkreechWhat other menus do you have?06:40
archangel_in order -   Adept, edit, view, settings, help06:41
OODclick adept06:41
sophie_Ignite_: For some reason katacrap is taking like 99.9999 % CPU06:41
OODthen manage repositories06:41
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sophie_Ignite_: killall katacrap06:42
sophie_Ignite_: use to wok good for me06:42
Ignite_do killall -9 katapult06:42
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Ignite_the -9 forces it06:42
OODarchangel_: then uncomment all the lines with restricted wored at the end (right click and selecte enable06:42
archangel_OOD: your talking to a week old newbie06:43
sophie_Ignite_: killall without option 9 works 99% is that not safer intelikey what fo you think06:43
intelikeykillall5     or kill -9 -1   :)     hehhe as root of course.....06:44
OODarchangel_L: sorry ;), where are you now?06:44
archangel_lol06:44
OODyou click adept then, manage repositories06:44
archangel_adept06:44
OODgot it?06:44
archangel_OOD:  I have no options under Adept menu --- just 'quit'06:44
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OODarchangel_:hmm, try going to settings instead of adept, then manage repositories06:46
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OODsorry, try at view06:47
archangel_oddsettings menu only have -- hide taskbar & configure shortscuts06:47
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OODsorry, i meant view06:47
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intelikeybut it will kill it.    what ever it was.06:48
archangel_view only has ' review changes'06:48
archangel_do I have an older version or something?06:48
sophie_intelikey: don't worry06:48
obf213im in serious need of help. using kpowersave i attempted to suspend to disk, only  to have the computer shut down, upon restart, i have no sound, an improper resolution, and do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt work06:49
OODarchangel_: possibly, go to help and about adept06:49
OODwhat does it say?06:49
obf213anyboyd have any idea what i did06:49
OODthe first line?06:49
intelikeysophie_ and Ignite_ oh i scrolled up and found the question.    yes i agree that   killall <app.name>   is the better starting point.06:49
Kr4t05Damn Amarok! ><06:49
DaSkreecharchangel_: Try this KMenu -> System -> Adept06:49
archangel_k06:49
Healotsuspend as easy as "sudo pmi action suspend" or "sudo pmi action hibernate"06:49
DaSkreecharchangel_: Close that Adept window you have open06:50
archangel_version  3.5.206:50
archangel_if taht helps06:50
obf213hey does anyone know what happened06:50
obf213abbatoir: what did suspend do to my computer06:50
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OODi have 3.5.3 so it's possible you don't have those options06:50
OODguess we'll have to do it the manual way ;)06:51
intelikeyone can use   sudo kill -9 `pidof find`     to kill a users find command but a ^c  would be much easier and less forcefull    Ignite_ & sophie_06:51
archangel_OOD: got it06:51
DaSkreechOOD: No He's running the add/remove version06:51
OODah06:51
OODthat would be why06:51
archangel_da is right06:51
DaSkreecharchangel_: You have manage repostiores now?06:51
archangel_I just got the right one06:51
archangel_I see the options now06:51
archangel_yes06:52
DaSkreechOk now you can follow the walk through06:52
DaSkreechGo to it :)06:52
sophie_archangel_: use apt-get instead fast amd cheap06:52
DaSkreechI'll be over here in this corner saying words Children aren't to hear06:52
archangel_lol06:52
OODsophie_: graphical is easier to start out with06:52
DaSkreechsophie_: He's changing the repos06:52
intelikeyIgnite_ & sophie_   the killall command in linux was made to do basicly the same as  ^C   but slightly more forceful   so it's a good choice for stoping things in progress relatively cleanly.06:53
archangel_yeah sophie... I'm getting repoed06:53
archangel_:o)06:53
sophie_OOD and DaSkreech: But why would he need to change repo06:53
DaSkreecharchangel_: You can figure out the interface?06:53
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DaSkreechsophie_: He's adding restricted06:53
Ignite_intelikey, i know06:53
Hikaru79Happy birthday, nixternal_bday :)06:53
sophie_archangel_: for nividia drivers06:53
archangel_think so06:54
nixternal_bdayty!! it just started, 24 hours of people saying "Happy thirty-second"..and then the depression will sink in06:54
archangel_just type nvidia drivers?06:54
nixternal_bdayanywho, back to vacation!!!06:54
intelikeyIgnite_ no offence.   i was asked.06:54
rr72intelikey~ supp06:54
obf213hey me resolution got messed up 915 is no longer showing the correct resolution for my laptop06:54
Hikaru79join #ubuntu-offtopic06:54
obf213what happened06:54
Hikaru79oops, forgot the slash :X06:54
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Ignite_intelikey, not by me :P06:54
OODarchangel_:so did you enable all the restricted ones?06:54
DaSkreecharchangel_:  Follow the walkthrough :) Just ignore where it says synaptic :)06:54
DaSkreecharchangel_: If you get confused just say my name06:55
intelikeyhello rr7206:55
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archangel_DaSkreech: how do I unrestrict?06:55
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DaSkreechEh?06:55
sophie_intelikey: tks for the killall info06:55
OODarchangel_: right click and select enable06:55
DaSkreechOh that :)06:56
archangel_onn all the grey lines?06:56
OODon the gray lines that have the word restricted at the very end06:56
OODthis will enable the restricted repository, which is where the nvidia driver is06:57
DaSkreecharchangel_: Oh You don't get repositores yet :) When you are ready ping me and I'll explain them06:57
intelikeyvery end ?06:57
intelikeyanywhere in them.06:57
archangel_so what do I enable? all the grey lines?06:58
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archangel_they dont look applicable to me06:58
OODjust the ones that have the word 'restricted' in them06:58
archangel_ok06:58
intelikeyand universe06:59
intelikeywould be a good choice06:59
archangel_'main restricted'?06:59
OODyes06:59
obf213hey intelikey can you tell why my usb mouse stopped working07:00
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obf213along w/ my sound and my correct resolution why decided to suspend to harddrive07:00
OODand if you want you can also enable the universe ones, they have a lot of software in them so you can easily find it all in adept07:00
archangel_its telling me its allready enabled cause my only option is 'disable, clone, remove'.07:00
intelikeyobf213 probably not.   can you tell me what you did just before it quit ?07:00
obf213yes07:00
obf213i hit suspend to disk07:01
obf213then the computer crashed? maybe07:01
intelikeyah suspend07:01
obf213i restarted it, i had the worng resolution no sound and my plg abd play mouse doesnt work07:01
OODthey're all already enabled?07:01
obf213intelikey: i got the sound working07:01
intelikeyactually i know nothing about suspend07:01
obf213915resolution no longer shows tghe correct resolution for my laptop??07:02
archangel_everything that says 'main restricted' is07:02
intelikeydid you try unplug/replug the mouse ?07:02
obf213intelikey: yes many tmes07:02
archangel_oops I didnt see the universe ones.07:02
OODuniverse is optional07:02
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obf213and the wireless reciever is connecting with the mouse. as it blinks whenever i move the mouse07:03
archangel_ok they are enabled with the others now07:03
OODclick apply07:03
OODthen close07:03
archangel_k07:03
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OODthen click the fetch updates button07:03
archangel_done07:03
archangel_k07:03
OODwhen it's done, close adept and start terminal07:04
archangel_wow, lots of updates07:04
obf213ah intelikey it seems to work, however not in the same usb port07:04
obf213if i plug it in that prot it wont work07:04
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archangel_now search for nvidia?07:05
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OODyou can search and install the package 'nvidia-glx' (without quotes)07:05
intelikeyobf213 i have nothing to even test the suspend function on so i know nothing about it.   i would think that a full restart should fix it.    but i can't say for sure.  you might have to flush the tmp partition before it will streighten out.   sorry i can't help there.07:05
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OODit's the same effect as doing sudo apt-get install nvida-glx in the terminal07:05
digibre4k_hallouw.........07:06
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digibre4k_i need u'r help..!!!!!!!!07:06
OOD!ask07:06
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:06
archangel_ok gotcha07:06
archangel_now i get 4 results07:06
archangel_all different07:06
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obf213ok thanks anyway07:07
digibre4k_can u explain how to use gaim, cause i cant do!!!!!???07:07
obf213intelikey: dumping and reinstalling stuff rom adept seems to be fixing some of the problems07:07
OODarchangel_: did you get the package installed?07:07
DaSkreechdigibre4k_: What do you want to do?07:08
digibre4k_i want chat...07:08
archangel_OOD: driver, driver developement files, 'legacy' driver, 'legacy driver developement files07:08
digibre4k_can  explain how to use???07:09
intelikeyobf213 iirc there is a posting on the wiki about laptops and the suspend function     did you look for help there ?07:09
OODjust get the nvidia-glx package07:09
OODyou don't need the rest07:09
intelikey!suspend07:09
ubotuI know nothing about suspend - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:09
archangel_ok07:09
obf213im not worreid about that now im trying to fix all the stuff it messed up07:09
DaSkreechdigibre4k_: You mean IRC or something else?07:09
archangel_request install done07:10
OODok07:10
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OODnow quit adept07:10
archangel_apply changes?07:10
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DaSkreechOOD: Hee hee07:10
DaSkreecharchangel_: Yeah do that :)07:10
OODyes apply the changes so the package actually installs07:10
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archangel_lol     k07:10
DaSkreechHobbsee: Hi07:10
OODyou need that package :)07:10
digibre4k_yup...07:11
archangel_OOD: ok done, and closed out07:11
OODok07:11
OODstart konsole07:11
archangel_done07:11
OODok07:12
intelikeyobf213 but if you get that fixed that may also take care of the 'mess'   ???       just a thought.         it would at least prevent you making the same mess out of it as soon as you get it fixed....07:12
OODnow type in: sudo nvidia-xconfig07:12
OODit'll ask for your password07:12
archangel_done07:13
DaSkreechdigibre4k_: Yup what? You want IRC?07:13
archangel_back to promt07:13
OODok07:13
OODit's done07:13
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archangel_wow07:13
OODnow all you have to do is restart X and you should be runnign with the driver07:13
archangel_piece of cake07:13
OODto do that, press CTRL+ALT+Backspace07:13
OODthis will log you out07:13
OODso all your programs will close07:13
archangel_ok07:13
archangel_be back in a sec07:14
archangel_over and out07:14
OODlets hope so ;)07:14
DaSkreechSave anything important07:14
archangel_lol07:14
ahmeniI can't seem to install kdelibs-data because it conflicts with a file in ktorrent, but apt refuses to remove either. Argh.07:14
archangel_ohh man, dont scare me like that07:14
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admin_How do you make the KDE start menu sort alphabetically?07:15
OODlet's hope he comes back07:15
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OODand he's back!07:16
archangel_dudes07:16
admin_How do you make the KDE start menu sort alphabetically?07:16
archangel_I can see a big change in quality07:16
ash211admin: right-click kmenu button -> menu editor, and manually change order07:16
intelikeyadmin_ that's a good question.    kmenuedit or something like that maybe ???07:16
admin_Was hoping for non-manual solution.  :-)07:17
archangel_I'm only running in 16 colors and it wont change07:17
ash211not sure about non-manual07:17
OODo.007:17
OOD16 colors?07:17
archangel_lol,    just kidding07:17
archangel_it rocks07:17
OOD:P07:17
OODhad me there for a second07:18
DaSkreechadmin_: Mine does it already. What's up with yours?07:18
archangel_thanx bro07:18
OODyea, np :)07:18
archangel_I almost want your help with macro media07:18
archangel_lol07:18
archangel_only if your up to it07:18
OODflash?07:18
intelikeyarchangel_ you had him,  you should have fried him for a minute   :)07:18
OODlol07:19
archangel_lol yeah I know, man07:19
intelikeyalmost ?07:19
archangel_I could rode that one out for a while07:19
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archangel_lol07:19
archangel_'should'07:19
intelikeylol07:19
DaSkreecharchangel_: Do you understand what the repositories are?07:19
DaSkreechOr why you have retricted or universe?07:20
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archangel_packets or specific drivers or full software?07:20
archangel_or = of07:20
intelikeys07:20
archangel_DaSkreech: they look like software that is in reserve somewhere.07:21
DaSkreecharchangel_: Right. Do you know why they have sections07:22
intelikeyrepo main( these.debs )  repo restricted( more.debs )   repo universe( lots_of.debs )  ....07:23
archangel_each section is for levels of skill or function? DaSkreech07:23
intelikey!dstats07:23
ubotuI know nothing about dstats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:23
DaSkreecharchangel_: good guess but not quite07:24
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archangel_hmmm, learn me!07:24
intelikey!dist stats07:24
ubotuI know nothing about dist stats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:24
DaSkreechWell Main is run and maintained by Ubuntu07:24
archangel_k07:25
DaSkreechuniverse is generally free software which is maintained by people  outside of Ubuntu07:25
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archangel_ahh07:25
DaSkreechMultiverse is non open source things07:25
archangel_non-open?07:26
DaSkreechor things with license restrictions07:26
archangel_ok07:26
DaSkreechLike MP3 or Java or Flash07:26
archangel_gotcha\07:26
intelikeyrestricted is ran and mantained by ubuntu but is not free.07:26
DaSkreechThen anything beyond that are repositories you add yourself07:26
DaSkreechOh right forgot that one :)07:26
archangel_is that why flash seems to have a different setup?07:26
DaSkreechYumm Yeah :)07:27
intelikeyflash is evil07:27
jmichaelxcan someone give me the command to copy a folder from one dir to another?07:27
OODgnash all the way~07:27
intelikeycp -07:28
intelikeycp -R07:28
intelikeyooops   hehhe07:28
OODjmichaelx: cp foldername destination07:28
jmichaelxty07:28
archangel_lol telling me!      its keeps telling me that the utility is not in my pathfor a07:28
jmichaelx-r flah necessary?07:28
jmichaelxflag*07:28
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archangel_gnash?07:29
intelikeywith the -R   or you get only the dir.07:29
jmichaelxahh07:29
OODgnash is a an opensource project to recreate flash07:29
jmichaelxintelikey: ty once again07:29
archangel_sorry, I was ease dropping07:29
archangel_didnt realize... my bad07:30
intelikeyjmichaelx so it depends on what you want.07:30
intelikeyman cp07:30
jmichaelxi want to copy the dir and all of its contents, so yeah, probably =R07:30
intelikeycause flash is evil    ;/07:31
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intelikeyyeah -R07:31
archangel_so do I not want flash?07:31
archangel_is that why I cant get it to work?07:31
OODyou want flash07:31
OODgnash is in developement stages07:32
OODand isn't as cabaple as flash 7 atm07:32
archangel_web pages keep telling me I need it07:32
OOD!flash07:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:32
archangel_I download it07:32
OODfrom the adobe webpage?07:33
archangel_try to open it, then it starts laughing at me and starts asking for a path less traveled07:33
intelikeyjmichaelx   cp=copy   mv=move   rm=remove (or delete in dos)   cd=change directories   ls=list      just a few of the most basic and rudimentory commands in GNU-linux07:33
archangel_yeah adobe07:34
archangel_got the 64 bit version07:34
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archangel_the debian version07:34
OODwhat?07:34
archangel_lol07:35
archangel_I was on the Debian website and seen the flash link they had there07:35
intelikeyubuntu != debian       ubuntu = debian + confusion.07:35
archangel_I read that Kubuntu was Debian based and thought that it would work07:36
OODthere is no 64-bit flash so i have no idea what you're talking about :D07:36
intelikey:)07:36
archangel_oops, sorry thats Craft07:36
archangel_looking at the wrong icon07:37
OODlol07:37
archangel_lol, my bad07:37
archangel_I guess this would be a reason not to smoke crack07:38
jmichaelxhow do i "Make sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules directory"?07:38
intelikeyor pcp either07:38
jmichaelxi think i need some crack07:38
OODjmichaelx: what are you trying to do?07:38
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intelikeyapt-cache search crack07:39
OODlol07:39
jmichaelxOOD: i am trying to install the latest ndiswrapper from sourceforge07:39
chris_evening all07:39
OODouch, that's gonna take a lot of patience07:39
jmichaelxgrrrr07:39
intelikeycrack - Password guessing program07:39
intelikeycrack-attack - multiplayer OpenGL puzzle game like "Tetris Attack"07:39
OODhaha07:39
OODim gonna give that a try07:39
jmichaelxi am trying to get my broadcom wireless to work07:40
archangel_ha07:40
archangel_hey how would I get flash working?07:40
OODjmichaelx: that's something way beyong my expertise ;), you'll have to wait until someoen can help you07:41
jmichaelxi had my wireless working great, then i had the linux version of BSOD and had to reinstall.... since then NOTHING i do will make this wireless card work07:41
archangel_wonder if my screensavers work now that 3d support is working..07:41
OODarchangel_: they should07:41
intelikeyarkangle  i've never tried to make flash work in linux   but that subject is in this channel a lot.     did you read the web pages that were posted eariler about that ^  ?07:42
jmichaelxabattoir: are you awake?07:42
intelikey!flash07:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:42
archangel_sweet they do07:42
intelikeythose pages ^07:42
archangel_I have07:42
abattoirjmichaelx: am always awake :)07:42
abattoirjmichaelx: what's up?07:43
jmichaelxlol07:43
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jmichaelxabattoir: i am still trying to get this broadcom wireless working07:43
jmichaelxand banging my head07:43
archangel_and I did what most forums say to do (take 2 files and put them in the .mozila folder)07:43
abattoirjmichaelx: did you 'undo' what you did... ?07:43
archangel_still nothing07:43
OODarchangel_:that should work07:44
jmichaelxabattoir: i am not sure enough about what i did to undo it.... but i have a question...07:44
archangel_not sure why it doesnt07:44
OODarchangel_: did you extract the archive you downloaded from the flash website?07:44
archangel_I even put it in a folder deeper inside and that didnt work either07:44
archangel_yes07:44
OODk07:45
OODopen that folder07:45
archangel_k07:45
OODright click on the background and go options->open terminal here07:45
abattoirjmichaelx: ask... :P07:45
OODsorry, actions>open terminal here07:45
archangel_done07:45
archangel_I gotcha07:46
OODin the terminal window that opened type in: sh flashplayer-installer07:46
OODand just follow the directions07:46
archangel_should I move the file back out (or move up one level)07:46
archangel_?07:46
OODwhich file?07:46
jmichaelxabattoir: it seems to me that with my previous install, what made my wireless work, was using fwcutter to get the firmware, THEN install the driver in ndiswrapper.....all of the forums will tell you that you should NOT have fwcutter installed to use these cards with ndiswrapper, but i think i had used fwcutter, gotten the firmware, installed the driver in ndiswrapper, and it worked... does this make sense?07:46
archangel_the 207:46
OODwhat2? the ones you put in the mozilla folder?07:47
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archangel_.xpt & .so07:47
OODwhere are they now?07:47
archangel_let me double check07:47
archangel_1 sec07:47
abattoirjmichaelx: fwcutter(and hence bcm43xx) in a way, 'takes control' of your card, and ndiswrapper will not work until you 'unload' the bcm43xx module...07:47
archangel_in the firefox folder07:48
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abattoirjmichaelx: in your case, ndiswrapper didnt work because, the driver(or ndiswrapper) wasnt installed cleanly, or if it was, something was messed around with... :P07:48
OODmove them back to the flash folder you just extracted07:48
archangel_did that go through?07:49
jmichaelxabattoir: hmm.... ok, but i had used fwcutter to extract the firmware from bcmwl5... i did not uninstall fwcutter, and my wireless worked07:49
Healotgreat07:49
OODdid what go through?07:49
archangel_I sent you the location of the file07:49
Healotanother successful Broadcom user07:49
obf213is it better to turn of your computer at night or just keep it running07:50
OODyes, in the firefox folder07:50
archangel_ok yeah07:50
OODmove them back to the flash folder you just extracted07:50
jmichaelxHealot: no, not successful... that was on a previous installation... this time around, it willl simply not work07:50
abattoirjmichaelx: afaik,(because i havent used it), you use fwcutter to extract the firmware, to be used by bcm43xx... once you have done the extraction, fwcutter's presence does not matter, it is bcm43xx which controls the card07:50
abattoirHealot: i wonder if your statement was sarcastic :)07:51
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archangel_the files are still there (they copied when they were extracted)07:51
archangel_should I just delete?07:51
OODno07:51
jmichaelxabattoir: it is strange, because i had bcm43xx blacklisted, but nothing seemed to work until i used fwcutter.... i guess i am crazy07:51
archangel_ok07:51
OODnow in the console that just opened07:51
OODtype in sh flashplayer-installer07:52
OODand just follow the install07:52
archangel_I didnt move the files yet07:52
OODdont move any files07:52
abattoirjmichaelx: if you think that worked, there is no harm in trying, but i am still convinced that ndiswrapper's driver wasnt installed cleanly.. or if it was it wasnt removed cleanly... you get the picture :)07:52
OODthe install will copy the files to where they should be for you07:52
archangel_not sure how unless I open up too windows and drag and drop07:52
archangel_oh ok07:52
jmichaelxabattoir: yeah, i think i do... i just wish right now i could get rid of all traces of ndiswrapper and everything associated with it, and start over07:53
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abattoirjmichaelx: well, we could try...07:54
archangel_says my architecture is not supported07:54
jmichaelxi an trying to use the instructions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140214&page=2, , but i am lost07:54
OODyou running 64-bit kubuntu?07:54
jmichaelxbrb, need more vodka07:54
archangel_yes07:54
OODthere's the problem07:54
archangel_ouch07:55
Healotwelcome to the 64-bit bandwagon, on x64 XP now :007:55
abattoirjmichaelx: hmm, maybe you did that last time too... i guess vodka and ndiswrapper dont mix well :P07:55
archangel_should i use 32 bit version?07:55
OODyour 64-bit kubuntu comes with 64-bit firefox, and the flash plugin is 32-bit07:55
archangel_hmmmm07:55
OODwhat you'll have to do is download the 32-bit version07:55
archangel_that sucks07:56
Healotflash sucks... archangel_07:56
intelikeyso write a 64 bit plugin archangel_07:56
Healotproprietary and it sucks :)07:56
archangel_lol, I'll get right on it07:57
intelikeyflash is evil    like M$07:57
OODheh, gnash FTW!07:57
Healotlesser evil like Saddam07:57
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archangel_Saddam a LESSER evil?   yikes07:58
intelikeysodamn insane ?07:58
bl3ssinghello people07:58
archangel_typical dictator07:58
archangel_I think they all contract the syndrome after 'election'07:59
HealotBush = evil, Saddam = lesser evil, conlusion, both are devils :)07:59
DaSkreechdigibre4k_: Hello?07:59
DaSkreecharchangel_: After?07:59
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bl3ssingafter a good dinner, I'm asking anyone's here ... How can I install a program, after I've already untar it ... like: tar-xvf firefox.tar.gz ... ?    I've tried with apt-get install firefox ... but it won't work. WHY?07:59
jmichaelxabattoir: i was just thinking that back when i got ndiswrapper to work the last time, i had been drinking vodka... so i am trying to re-create the experience07:59
archangel_DaSkreech: good point07:59
OODjmichaelx: haha07:59
OODalcohol sovles all problems :D08:00
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vontuxanybody in here installed kismet on their ubuntu box before/08:00
obf213hey does restartign a computer damange it?08:00
archangel_not liver disease08:00
vontuxobf213: restarting it how?08:00
archangel_lol08:00
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intelikeybl3ssing why do you have the tar ball ?   is the ff in the repos not adaquit ?08:00
intelikey!ff08:00
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:00
jmichaelxobf213: yes, NEVER restart your PC08:01
vontuxlike just flipping the switch hurts it theoretically if you do it enough times obf21308:01
bl3ssingyou're right intelikey08:01
obf213ok08:01
obf213jw.08:01
intelikey!info firefox08:01
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB08:01
OODuh i restart my computer every day08:01
obf213ive had to restart probably 100 times since linux get08:01
jmichaelxOOok well, i do too08:01
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vontuxso, any kismet users in here?08:01
bl3ssingI have an older version and I just need to get to the newest one (you might wonder why? Well .. tried to get to a medical website which's been created in flash, and ... surprise: too old version of firefox. Install the newest from -and here it is the link to the firefox website-)08:02
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jmichaelxabattoir: so... how might i erase all traces of ndiswrapper?08:02
bl3ssingintelikey, I have an older version and I just need to get to the newest one (you might wonder why? Well .. tried to get to a medical website which's been created in flash, and ... surprise: too old version of firefox. Install the newest from -and here it is the link to the firefox website-)08:02
archangel_man, since 3d driver installed, system is screeming08:02
intelikeyobf213 i've had to restart one time sense installing  a few weeks ago.    (also notes the irony)08:02
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OODarchangel_: it's nice. isn't it ;)08:02
archangel_yeah man08:03
jmichaelxarchangel_: what 3d driver?08:03
intelikeybl3ssing so do you have flash working at all ?08:03
intelikey!flash08:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:03
intelikeybl3ssing ^08:03
archangel_well, I meant nvidia driver (3d hardware support)08:03
jmichaelxahh08:03
archangel_like night and day08:03
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OODalright, gotta go08:05
OODnight08:05
archangel_night08:05
intelikeyand if nvidia would open source that, it would go right into the kernel tree and you would have what you've got now archangel_ from the install, without any of this hassel08:05
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archangel_ahh, I see08:06
intelikeyand it would cost nvidia what ????     i think it would help their business...08:06
archangel_yeah, no doubt08:06
archangel_now ATI are they open source?08:07
ash211the standard reply to that is that there are special trade secrets in the driver that other companies (AMD) might try to copy08:07
DaSkreechintelikey: It would cost them the business08:07
intelikeyonly way it will happen is if costumers like you start making a noise about it....08:07
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wolfmanzATI is closed source as well but that  may change now that they are owned by AMD08:07
ash211sry, s/AMD/ATI/08:07
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CyberCodhopefully that will change08:07
intelikeyDaSkreech how so ?   they are selling hadrware not software.08:07
turtleJPany idea why SCIM doesn't seem to show up?08:08
CyberCodWell, AMD hopes to build GPUs into multicore CPUs08:08
intelikeyare you implying that the code is hot ?08:08
DaSkreechintelikey: They are afraid of patents. Everyone in crazy hectic updates are08:08
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, am back... one sec08:08
archangel_I hope to see AMD pass Intel again08:08
DaSkreechintelikey: The ideas are.08:09
|lostbyte|Good morning guys...08:09
turtleJPmoring08:09
DaSkreech|lostbyte|: Hi08:09
CyberCodyeah... i agree... i hope they bury intel08:09
abattoirjmichaelx: remove the driver first(if you can)08:09
Healotthey won't, coz I am still using both :)08:09
archangel_Intel is gloating bigtime cause of their new pride and joy08:09
CyberCodbut how long will that last eh?08:09
obf213core2 duo is amazing08:09
|lostbyte|DaSkreech, hi there..08:09
archangel_I heard its like nothing else08:09
CyberCodi heard AMD has quadcore on the way soon08:10
DaSkreechobf213: It's a PIII :)08:10
jmichaelxabattoir:  will try, brb08:10
DaSkreechCyberCod: No Intel will get there first08:10
archangel_lol,  shutup08:10
turtleJPBoth AMD and Intel will have quad core this year08:10
archangel_seriously?08:10
|lostbyte|Not so soon..08:10
CyberCodin fact there are companies making 32core right now for supercomputers and such... but it doesn't count08:11
archangel_this year? that is a universe of a jump08:11
intelikeywell personally.  i don't think there should be any patents on data of any kind.  i think that should be removed from the law books.    and as for copy rights   i'm still not setteled on that, but i'm sure it should not be unlawful to quote others (i.e. use parts of their code) in not for profit use.08:11
archangel_I guess that would be a quantum leap08:11
turtleJPyeah intel quad core q4 of this year08:11
CyberCodwell, they gotta do somethin, they can't  make the pathways any smaller, only solution is to put multiple cores.08:11
archangel_yeah, I guess so08:12
CyberCodthey're saying we'll have octocore in desktop PC's by 201008:12
wolfmanzYou should only be able to use parts of thier code if they approve that08:12
Healotoh, since many of you have duel-core CPUs, how's the perfomance in general (using SMP kernel of course)08:12
DaSkreechintelikey: Patents protect consumers08:12
DaSkreechintelikey: Unfortunately the patent system does not :(08:12
archangel_just think of the virtual machines you could have on a pc08:13
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|lostbyte|Unless they find anothere way to store, charg at the nano level.08:13
imbrandon_xen ;)08:13
CyberCodif AMD could make a 2part driver, one part open source with all of the software hooks and tie-ins... and the 2nd part NOT open source, where they keep the kernel's secret recipe....08:13
intelikeyDaSkreech patents protect mega $ business  not consumers   patents keep the prices up.  and the supply low.08:13
ash211if they split the driver in two, you'd still have to do special stuff to install the 'secret' part08:14
archangel_yeah like Honda minivans08:14
intelikeypatents are a source of revenue for big business08:14
DaSkreechintelikey: No the patent system does that. The idea of patents are to protect consumers08:14
CyberCodbut perhaps the open part could be tweaked for compatability08:14
DaSkreechintelikey: That is becuase there is a terrible patent system08:14
BazziRDaSkreech: I always thought the idea of patents is to protect inventors08:14
CyberCodi dunno... i couldn't create a driver if my life depended on it08:15
DaSkreechAlthough I think that we are firmly in OT territory now08:15
intelikeybut we don't use the "idea of"  we use the cold hard facts.    and fact is patents on data are evil.08:15
imbrandon_patentes are to protect inventors from big business not consumers08:15
DaSkreechWant to take this to #kubuntu-offtopic08:15
imbrandon_yea -offtopic time ;)08:15
wolfmanzya lets go have a war lol08:15
imbrandon_lol08:16
CyberCodi have an ON topic question08:16
intelikeywolfmanz we is having two of them.  in the middle east....08:16
DaSkreechCyberCod: Save us :)08:16
obf213is encoding an mp3 a processer intesive process08:16
DaSkreechobf213: not anymore :)08:16
obf213really08:16
imbrandon_obf213: for older processors yea08:16
|lostbyte|obf213, yes.08:16
obf213hrm08:16
CyberCodwill the ATI drivers work any differently on Kubuntu than on Ubuntu?  I"m having trouble on Ubuntu08:16
DaSkreechIt will soak up cycles sure08:16
obf213my cpu's go to 10008:16
obf213when it does it08:16
jmichaelxabattoir: i am not getting anywwhere08:16
imbrandon_CyberCod: no08:16
CyberCodok08:17
imbrandon_CyberCod: *buntu uses the same X server08:17
DaSkreech but you don't have to go make dinner anymore cause your stuff has frozen up08:17
abattoirjmichaelx: could you explain...08:17
CyberCodi figured that, but was hopeful08:17
archangel_how can I monitor my cpu?08:17
obf213htop shows both my cores going to 100percent when encoding.....on a 2ghz duo.....08:17
abattoirjmichaelx: the same unable to uninstall, but unable to install thing?08:17
obf213sudo apt-get install htop08:17
obf213its console but its good08:17
CyberCodanother question, a non-important one, but a nagging thing08:17
imbrandon_archangel_: many ways , one is run "top" from konsole08:17
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archangel_k08:17
DaSkreecharchangel_: Or Ctrl+Esc08:18
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CyberCodupon boot, and its doing its startup list thing  "drivers......   [ok] " thing08:18
jmichaelxabattoir: i can't seem to uninstall the driver, and the commmands 'ndiswrapper' and 'ndisgtk' are no longer recognized, even though they are installed08:18
obf213i have a nagging feeling that windows is much mor efficient with a dual core cpu08:18
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, time for manual removal...08:19
imbrandon_obf213: not really, if nothing else is useing the cpu why not let the encoder ;) you can always renice it08:19
CyberCodit gets down to file system, and then leaves the nice skinned screen, and continues booting up in a non-skinned terminal visual mode.08:19
CyberCodits not a big deal, but its annoying08:19
abattoirjmichaelx: remove ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-source, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.808:19
imbrandon_CyberCod: file a bug08:19
jmichaelxabattoir: brb08:20
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obf213ok. i just never thought my cpu's went to 100percent in linux but ill take your word onit08:20
abattoirjmichaelx: and ndisgtk, if you have that installed08:20
CyberCodfair nuff08:20
CyberCodthanx08:20
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rr72obf213~ mine goes to 99% but i take that as 10008:20
DaSkreechobf213: Mine are nearly always used all the time08:20
abattoirjmichaelx: also, you might not have ndis...-source or ndis...-utils-1.1 installed, but check08:20
jmichaelxabattoir: sudo: remove: command not found08:20
rr72since my graph turns red08:20
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archangel_where do you look for that? what colum?08:20
abattoirjmichaelx: 'sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils' for eg.08:21
jmichaelxahhh08:21
rr72obf213~ that rox ty for the suggggestion08:22
jmichaelxabattoir: ok, all unintalled08:23
obf213np08:23
abattoirjmichaelx: see if you have an ndiswrapper folder in /etc08:24
archangel_ok folks08:24
archangel_have a good one08:24
archangel_going to the beach tomorrow08:24
archangel_need some shut eye08:24
jmichaelxabattoir: yes, i do08:24
archangel_thanx for the lessons08:24
archangel_and help08:24
abattoirjmichaelx: see what it contains.. or it might be from the cache, reload to make sure08:25
jmichaelxabattoir: i reloaded. it contains the folder bcmwl508:26
abattoirjmichaelx: ok remove the ndiswrapper folder08:26
jmichaelxabattoir: sudo apt-get remove /etc/ndiswrapper?08:27
abattoirjmichaelx: nope, 'sudo rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper'08:28
abattoirjmichaelx: apt-get is for removing binary packages, like ndiswrapper-utils08:28
jmichaelxok08:28
abattoir*or rather the 'apt-get' command above08:28
abattoirwhereas the rm command removes files(and in this case folders)08:28
jmichaelxabattoir: ok, removed08:29
abattoirjmichaelx: check now for /sbin/loadndisdriver08:29
abattoirand /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper08:29
abattoiralso, /sbin/loadndisdriver-1.8 and /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.808:30
jmichaelxabattoir: neither of those exist08:30
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abattoirok, good, reinstall the ndiswrapper packages08:31
abattoirnamely 'ndiswrapper-utils'(which should get ndiswrapper-utils-1.8)08:31
abattoir'ndiswrapper-common'...08:31
jmichaelxabattoir: should i use aptitude, or is it ok if i just use automatix?08:31
abattoirautomatix does package installations too?08:32
wolfmanzabattoir is there a way to remove the multiple desktop as in have 008:32
abattoiryou can use aptitude/apt-get/adept/synaptic08:32
obf213yeah thats wht i need to use automatix08:32
jmichaelxabattoir: i believe so08:32
abattoirwolfmanz: you must have 1 :P08:32
abattoirwolfmanz: rt.click->configure desktop08:32
wolfmanzabattoir ya i know where it is just wondering if i could shut it right off08:33
abattoirwolfmanz: you should see 'Multiple Desktops'08:33
wolfmanzabattior i got it i rmoved the panel now thats one less thing to look at08:35
jmichaelxabattoir: E: Invalid operation ndiswrapper-common08:35
abattoirjmichaelx: that's all? any more info?08:35
jmichaelxabattoir: nope08:35
abattoirjmichaelx: :P 'sudo apt-get *install* ndiswrapper-common'08:36
jmichaelxE: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common08:37
abattoir!info ndiswrapper-common08:37
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper-common does not exist in dapper08:37
abattoir!info ndiswrapper-common edgy08:37
ubotundiswrapper-common: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.18-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB08:37
abattoirjmichaelx: ugh, sorry.. leave that packagee then08:37
jmichaelxabattoir: do i need to add an edgy repo?08:38
abattoirjmichaelx: install ndiswrapper-utils-1.808:38
abattoirjmichaelx: NO08:38
jmichaelxok08:38
abattoirjmichaelx: i was using an edgy system to look at the package contents... apparently there has been a change in ndiswrapper's packaging08:38
jmichaelxE: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-utils-1.808:39
Healot!info ndiswrapper08:39
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper08:39
jmichaelxhmmm08:39
jmichaelxabattoir: i might just use automatix, brb08:40
abattoir!info ndiswrapper-utils08:40
ubotundiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB08:40
abattoirjmichaelx: ^^^^^^08:40
jmichaelxabattoir: i did successfully install ndiswrapper-utils08:41
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, now try '-l' see if your driver is listed...08:41
abattoirit shouldnt be08:41
jmichaelxabattoir: ndiswrapper -l?08:42
abattoiryes08:42
jmichaelxNo drivers installed08:43
abattoirok, now try installing it08:43
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jmichaelxabattoir: ok, done08:45
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abattoirjmichaelx: you have bcm43xx blacklisted and unloaded right?08:46
jmichaelxabattoir: i should check again, brb08:46
bbtwhat kernel do i need to make use of athlon dual core?08:47
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, after that do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and see if 'dmesg' shows any errors08:47
jmichaelxFATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory08:48
abattoirjmichaelx: do 'sudo ndiswrapper -d'08:49
abattoirand then do modprobe08:49
jmichaelxabattoir: same error08:50
abattoirjmichaelx: hmm in dmesg?08:50
abattoiror the FATAL one?08:50
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jmichaelxthe fatal one08:50
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, wait a sec08:51
abattoirjmichaelx: you installed ndiswrapper-source?08:54
abattoirjmichaelx: try installing that, and see if it works08:54
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jmichaelxabattoir: i installed ndiswrapper-source, but i still get the fatal error when i modprobe08:56
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, check if you have that file... just in case08:57
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jmichaelxabattoir: which file?08:58
abattoir /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko08:58
abattoirafaik, that file is not provided by any of the packages that you uninstalled now08:59
abattoiralso see if 'linux-restricted-modules' is installed...08:59
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abattoirnot sure if ndiswrapper falls under that08:59
abattoirdid you switch from 386 to 686?08:59
abattoiror was it installed by default?08:59
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jmichaelxabattoir: yes, i am using 68609:00
abattoiryes, i figured that :P, but did you upgrade from 386?09:00
abattoiror was it installed by default?09:00
jmichaelxabattoir: i upgraded09:01
abattoiri'm guessing you dont have linux-restricted-modules-686 installed09:01
abattoirnot sure if that's the right name, but it should be similar09:01
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jmichaelxlinux-restricted-modules-686 is already the newest version09:02
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Healotit points to the latest version ;-09:04
MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone!09:04
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Healotafternoon, MilfhousePunkRock09:05
abattoirjmichaelx: hmm, the file seems to come from the kernel package itself09:05
abattoirlinux-image-686, in your case, i guess09:05
MilhousePunkRockHey Healot... Afternoon? So you are east from here too... Hi abattoir...09:06
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: morning :)09:06
Healoti guess, MilhousePunkRock09:06
MilhousePunkRockI've had the file system check when I just booted, how come I had an illegal block and a few multiple claimed blocks?09:06
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abattoirjmichaelx: do a 'dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'09:07
abattoirjmichaelx: and you didnt tell me if the file actually exists... or even the ndiswrapper folder09:07
abattoir /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko09:07
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jmichaelxabattoir: /etc/ndiswrapper does not exist09:08
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abattoirjmichaelx: that should have been created when you installed 'ndiswrapper-utils'09:09
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jmichaelxabattoir: why wasn't it? lol09:09
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abattoirjmichaelx: weird... you are on Kubuntu right :P09:09
abattoirhehe, kidding09:09
tilixhi. Does somebody know how to rebuild kubuntu-default-settings because debuild fails with ./debian/tmp/etc/: No such file or directory09:10
abattoirjmichaelx: i'm not on dapper, so cant cross-check.. do 'dpkg -L ndiswrapper-utils'09:11
abattoirjmichaelx: do you see a /etc/ndiswrapper there?09:11
jmichaelxabattoir: i can feel another re-install coming on09:11
jmichaelxabattoir: /etc/ndiswrapper is not there09:12
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, wait, i'll boot into dapper...09:12
abattoirbrb09:12
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MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: So you have trouble with ndiswrapper?09:13
jmichaelxMilhousePunkRock: just a little09:14
jmichaelx*chokes*09:14
MilhousePunkRockDid you check and double-check if there are native drivers for your device?09:14
jmichaelxMilhousePunkRock: there is an open source driver, but it sucks09:15
MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: How do you know it sucks, did you try it? Wireless is always a little tricky on Linux (from my humble experience)...09:15
jmichaelxMilhousePunkRock: i tried it, and could not get it to work, those woth whom i have spoken who did get it to work said that it was really really slow09:16
Healotno... proprietary hardware/driver manufacturers suck09:17
jmichaelxneed more vodka, brb09:17
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intelikeyanyone have this file ?    /sbin/genksyms09:17
MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: It should be possible to get it to life with ndiswrapper though, especially with abattoir's help...09:17
intelikeyanyone have this file ?    /sbin/genksyms09:17
jmichaelxHealot: this is a broadcom, and they have issues. i did have it working on a previous install09:17
MilhousePunkRockMorning intelikey09:17
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock hey09:18
Healotyeah09:18
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Healotthank god i don't have/use em09:18
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intelikeytrying to find out what this kernel compile is barking about       what's it09:18
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MilhousePunkRockintelikey: Let me check...09:19
intelikeyfile not found  /sbin/genksyms      so i don't even know what it's supposed to be/do09:19
jmichaelxabattoir: wb09:19
abattoirjmichaelx: thanks :P09:20
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: I don't have it either...09:20
MilhousePunkRockWB abattoir09:20
x16467498416abbatoir why were you not on dapper09:20
abattoirjmichaelx: dpkg -L gives me /etc/ndiswrapper09:20
intelikeyok thanks MilhousePunkRock09:20
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: thanks too :)09:20
jmichaelxabattoir: i reloaded and i do actually have /etc/ndiswrapper09:21
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abattoirjmichaelx: hmmm09:21
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bl3ssingintelikey, I have an older version and I just need to get to the newest one (you might wonder why? Well .. tried to get to a medical website which's been created in flash, and ... surprise: too old version of firefox. Install the newest from -and here it is the link to the firefox website-)09:21
abattoirx16467498416: i work on stuff which depends on packages available only in edgy09:21
bl3ssingintelikey, in case you've already answered ... can you reply it again ... please?09:22
MilhousePunkRockabattoir is a geek... He needs to be on the bleeding edge... :-P09:22
x16467498416oh i dont even know wht edgy is, is it more advanced than dapper09:22
abattoirjmichaelx: what about the /lib.... file?09:22
MilhousePunkRockHas anyone noticed that intelikey already left?09:22
Healotthe future upcoming release09:23
ubuntuI am new to kubuntu. I cannot boot up my kubuntu from my HD. I suspect the display settings is defaulted higher than the 1024 x 768 setting my display card can take ... can anyone help please??09:23
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe, no i have given a valid and true reason above :)09:23
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MilhousePunkRockx16467498416: That's the future version of Kubuntu...09:23
abattoirx16467498416: it is the 'next' version of (K)ubuntu which would be released in Oct. 200609:23
abattoirshould, rather09:23
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MilhousePunkRockubuntu: Can you not boot at all, or doesn't it start X / KDE?09:23
jmichaelxabattoir: interestingly, i just installed ndisgtk and opened it, and it still shows bcmwl5 as ebing installed09:24
ubuntuit does not start KDE09:24
jmichaelxgood grief09:24
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ubuntuneither does it start x09:24
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: Maybe a simple command can help you... Let me look it up09:24
abattoirjmichaelx: hmm...something was not done cleanly...09:24
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Richman_2hi09:25
abattoirjmichaelx: maybe ndisgtk reads from its own conf files which werent updated...09:25
abattoirjmichaelx: i'm not familiar w/ how it works09:25
jmichaelxabattoir: could be, ill try to remove it09:25
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: Boot into a shell and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that will let you reconfigure X09:25
abattoirjmichaelx: i though i asked you too.. you didnt?09:25
abattoirnot that it'd matter much...09:25
jmichaelxabattoir: i did remove it in the command line09:26
jmichaelxor, i tried to09:26
abattoirjmichaelx: and... it was still installed?09:26
jmichaelxabattoir: apparently.....09:26
jmichaelxi was shocked to see it show up in ndisgtk09:26
x16467498416abattoir how do you have edgy already09:27
abattoirx16467498416: anybody who wants to have it can :)09:27
ubuntuthanks   mil  ... i try that out09:27
x16467498416o09:27
abattoirx16467498416: but you shouldnt expect it to be stable...09:27
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abattoirjmichaelx: ok, i need to go now... will be back in a few minutes...09:28
abattoirjmichaelx: or do you want to try this tomorrow... when you are....*cough* :P09:28
abattoirhehe, dont take that seriously, was just joking :)09:28
jmichaelxabattoir: i don't get *cough* lol09:29
jmichaelxbut.... if you need to go, it is ok... i would just love to have the wireless working by next weekend09:30
abattoirjmichaelx: well, i'll be back in a few mins.. if you can wait, that is09:30
abattoirok09:30
abattoirbrb09:30
jmichaelxabattoir: yeah, i can wait09:30
x16467498416ok so do we have lts on this ubuntu09:30
x16467498416then will we have it it on the newt09:30
x16467498416or eft09:30
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x16467498416bye pratibha!09:31
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jordan_hi09:31
x16467498416hey09:31
x16467498416do we get LTS on the next release of ubuntu09:31
Hobbseex16467498416: no09:32
x16467498416or is the long term support just anything that starts with a 6 lke 6.04 6.1 ect09:32
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x16467498416ok, so why upgrade if you dont get support09:32
jordan_how to install Enemy territory for linux ?09:33
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MilhousePunkRockjordan_: What's the file called you downloaded?09:33
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MilhousePunkRocket-linux-2.60.x86.run? jordan?09:34
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MilhousePunkRocket-linux-2.60.x86.run? jordan_?09:34
MilhousePunkRockDoes anyone know a place to get usplash-screens? Other than the 3 they have at kde-look.org that is...09:35
x16467498416no09:36
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x16467498416i tried that all day, messed my comp up good thats wht i did09:36
x16467498416installed splashy and what not09:36
vontuxhow would one go about determining what drivers are being used for the different devices that ubuntu is able to run automatically, such as your computer's wifi card?09:36
x16467498416splashy is absolutely terrible do not install it09:36
x16467498416it always has some problem with xml something or other and crashes your system09:37
arepiehello.. i have problem with wireless network. I can scan the network access point, but i can't connect, this is maybe the driver of my device is not valid. So, how could i repair this?09:37
jordan_MilhousePunkRock oki but i need direct rendering. I use ati driver becouse a don' habe error when I reboot computer :/09:37
MilhousePunkRockx16467498416: The version numbers come from the release year and month: Dapper Drake 6.06 = released year 06 month 0609:37
jordan_*have09:37
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: One step at a time, let's install it first...09:37
x16467498416arepie restart your router and try again09:37
x16467498416o09:37
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arepiearkk..09:38
arepieokey.. brb09:38
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MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Open a shell, navigate to where the et-linux-2.60.x86.run is stored09:38
x16467498416vontux run system settings09:38
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x16467498416then network interfaces it wil tell you what hardware it detects09:38
x16467498416vontux ron the command kwirelessassistant09:38
x16467498416that will tell you it autodetected your wireless or not09:39
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MilhousePunkRockx16467498416: Why did you tell arepie to restart his router? That doesn't make sense at all09:39
MilhousePunkRockx16467498416: Do you even know what you are talking about?09:39
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jordan_Can I broken seciurty for MAC in Lan ?09:40
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: What?09:40
HealotMAC spoofing09:41
jordan_It's posible to have internet in 2 computer when I have regiter internet for only one MAC09:42
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Healotyes, possible09:42
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Don't you have a router? Than it uses only one MAC for the outside world, the router's... The PC's MACs don't matter in that case09:42
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arepieI've restart the router, still can't connect09:43
jordan_MilhousePunkRock No i have internet in Local Are ( simple provider - one seciurity it"s MAC)09:44
MilhousePunkRockarepie: That was unecessary, don't listen to x1646749841609:44
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Healot can probably help you...09:44
_rince_mrgn09:44
MilhousePunkRockWhat about ET, jordan_?09:44
grotheskHaving updated my kubuntu to kde 3.5.4 I'm missing the addressbar in konqueror. Any idea where to look for it?09:44
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arepieMilhousePunkRock: so what should i do ?09:44
jordan_it's working but a don"t start yet becouse i useing Ati driver09:45
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MilhousePunkRockgrothesk: Are you the one from #linux-club.de blixx mentioned earlier in #kubuntu-de?09:45
edonwhye is libxine-extracodecs obsoleted?09:45
jordan_Healot can you help witch MAC ?09:45
grotheskI'm on linux-club.de, that's right.09:45
MilhousePunkRockJoin the german channel, blixx is there, he made a forum post about this problem, maybe he can help you...09:46
grotheskthx09:46
MilhousePunkRockarepie: Open a shell and type "ifconfig"09:47
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arepieok done.. and.. ?09:47
jordan_MilhousePunkRock fglrx have problem witch turn off and rebooting computer so I use Ati driver09:47
MilhousePunkRockcan you post it's output on a pastebin, arepie?09:48
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: I thought you needed help with installing ET at first...09:48
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jordan_MilhousePunkRock is't oki Et is installing. I don't need help. Thanks a lot of09:49
arepiehold on MilhousePunkRock09:49
jordan_Healot can you help witch MAC ?09:50
MilhousePunkRockthe command was sh et-linux...run IIRC, jordan_09:50
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Healotwhat kind of help you need? jordan_09:51
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MilhousePunkRockHealot: Isn't spoofing MAC adresses kinda in the twilight zone?09:51
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jordan_what i must do for broke this seciurity  ?09:51
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Get a router... ;-)09:52
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jordan_What's kind of program  ?router it's too expensive for 2 months09:52
edonnobody knows why is libxine-extracodecs obsolete, and what substitutes it?09:53
DB_Bladeplease?09:53
notbbtk7-smp is the poop09:53
Hobbseeedon: it's not, add multiverse repositories09:53
Hobbsee!multiverse09:54
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:54
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs09:54
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:54
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arepieMilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RHyO2v27.html09:54
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MilhousePunkRockarepie: Checking...09:54
edonHobbsee: i've added it09:55
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jordan_Healot What's kind of program  ?router it's too expensive for 2 months09:55
Hobbseeedon: after every "universe"?  you need to have it in two places.09:55
MilhousePunkRockarepie: Assuming wlan0 is your wireless device, the drivers seem to be working09:55
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arepieMilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sTSvIx41.html check this09:56
MilhousePunkRockarepie: Can you post your /etc/network/interfaces too?09:58
arepiewhat is the command for that09:58
arepieprint screen ?09:58
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arepieMilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SYSydU92.html there you go10:00
MilhousePunkRockarepie: do "vi /etc/network/interfaces" on the shell and copy it...10:00
dhqhow do i mount an iso image10:00
Healotsudo mount -t iso9660 filename.iso <mount folder>10:01
arepiedhq, if you are on windows, you should have nero or other burning program to burn the image to a disk10:01
dhqno kubuntu10:01
DB_Bladewhat's wrong now?10:01
dhqarepie: i am using kubuntu10:02
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MilhousePunkRockshouldn't k3b let you burn it? or do you really need to mount it, dhq?10:02
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jmichaelxok there are some things about sudo that are really gay10:02
MilhousePunkRockarepie: Do you use all the other network devices?10:02
dhqMilhousePunkRock: i need to mount it as you see i am a  newbie in linux i was using windows just shifted yesterday need to lern a lot10:03
Riddellgnomefreak: hi10:03
DB_Bladeoh, yes... I remember10:03
gnomefreakhi Riddell10:03
jmichaelxwhen i try to move stuff from my desktop to trash, i have to be root\10:03
gnomefreakRiddell: it looks good so far ;)10:03
Riddellgnomefreak: rocking10:04
Riddellgnomefreak: i386?10:04
jmichaelxabattoir: i am still getting that fatal error, which is really confusing10:04
gnomefreakyep10:04
DB_Bladeyes... you are, jmichaelx10:04
MilhousePunkRockdhq: This is a good place to work away your noobnes... :-)10:04
arepieMilhousePunkRock: no.. i just use 1 at the moment.. Lan cable.. but the wireless network i didn't disconecct it from my computer.. im using wireless usb10:04
gnomefreakjmichaelx: depends on who owns the file you are trying to move10:04
dhqMilhousePunkRock: thanx10:04
Riddellgnomefreak: thanks10:04
jmichaelxgnomefreak: i know, it is no big deal10:04
gnomefreakjmichaelx: good practice is /home/ and /desktop/ should be user priv.10:04
gnomefreakRiddell: no problem i love it :)10:05
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MilhousePunkRockarepie: Do you know which ethx your ethernet card is?10:05
jmichaelxDB_Blade: i probably am lol10:05
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arepieMilhousePunkRock: no, i don't think so..10:05
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dhqhow do i mount an iso image10:05
MilhousePunkRockarepie: I'd suggest you comment all those you don't need out with # in the ../interfaces10:05
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jmichaelxwhat i so frustrating is that i had this wirelss card working before i reinstalled10:06
MilhousePunkRockaccording to your ifconfig it should be eth0 you are using, arepie10:06
arepieMilhousePunkRock: what if i clear the "/interface" and let it scan automaticaly again.. ?10:07
MilhousePunkRockarepie: We don't roll like that...10:07
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bbtwhats the difference between dapper and edgy ?10:07
jmichaelx*wonders if his wireless broadcom card would work better in edgy10:08
arepiesu10:08
MilhousePunkRockarepie: Edit your /etc/network/interfaces in the way, that you put # in front of every line except those sections for lo, eth0 and wlan010:09
MilhousePunkRockarepie: Besides that, a simple "auto" could make it all happen...10:09
jmichaelxdoes edgy inclue 2.6.17?10:09
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MilhousePunkRockBut that would be the next step10:09
MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: Yes...10:09
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dhqi was playing a song in amarok from my cd the cd is not ejecting  in konsole i typed "eject -r" device busy10:10
dhqany way to remove the cd10:10
jmichaelxMilhousePunkRock: i have heard that wireless is better supported in 2.6.17.....10:10
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kuba#ubuntu-pl10:10
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abattoirjmichaelx: ok, am back10:10
jmichaelxbroadcom wireless . i mean10:10
octanhi all10:10
jmichaelxwb again abattoir10:10
abattoirjmichaelx: figured out something in the meanwhile?10:10
MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: I can't really say, but I know power management will work better, at least for me...10:10
jmichaelxabattoir: no, still getting the fatal error10:11
octancan anyone tell me how i get this to work in kde? http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.2910:11
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jmichaelxabattoir: i am wondering ifi would have better luck with edgy unstable10:11
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MilhousePunkRockRiddell, do you have any influence to make edgy become 6.08 instead of 6.10? ;-)10:11
abattoirjmichaelx: that's weird, because i have the file10:11
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abattoirjmichaelx: no, it works fine in dapper10:11
MilhousePunkRockoctan: Why is everyone so keen about XGL?10:12
DB_Bladeyou sure?10:12
abattoirjmichaelx: and unless you are comfortable with breakages, i wouldnt recommend edgy10:12
octanMilhousePunkRock, why? cos its the future :) and its awsome.10:12
arepieMilhousePunkRock: i've done editing the comments, so whats next?10:12
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MilhousePunkRockoctan: Maybe you should try the kororaa live cd and see if it works? can be found on kororaa.org10:12
ubuntuguten Morgen alle10:13
abattoir!de10:13
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:13
MilhousePunkRockarepie: type "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0"10:13
octanMilhousePunkRock, no thxz.. im kinda happy with my distro10:13
MilhousePunkRock!xgl10:13
abattoirjmichaelx: have you checked to see if the ndiswrapper.ko file exists?10:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:13
jordan_How when they fix problem witch turn off and rebooting on fglrx ?10:13
jordan_How know when they fix problem witch turn off and rebooting on fglrx ?10:13
jmichaelxabattoir: haben vielleicht etwas gegen deustche?!10:14
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MilhousePunkRockdoes that help, octan?10:14
jmichaelxjust kidding10:14
abattoirno10:14
DB_Bladeplease?10:14
MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: No, but this is the international channel...10:14
jmichaelxhaben Sie*10:14
octanMilhousePunkRock, let me see10:14
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jmichaelxabattoir: i wonder why i do not have that file10:14
MilhousePunkRockjmichaelx: Are you german anyway?10:15
jmichaelxabattoir: i am tempted to reinstall yet again10:15
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abattoirjmichaelx: it is part of the kernel... linux-image-686, that is10:15
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abattoirjmichaelx: that'd be a good idea :)10:15
jmichaelxMilhousePunkRock: no, lol, but i can talk german10:15
DB_Bladewhat's so funny?10:15
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jmichaelxabattoir: i am getting sick of reinstalling :-(10:16
DB_Bladeoh, yes... I remember10:16
MilhousePunkRockDB_Blade: Who ever coded you should practise some more... :-P10:17
octanMilhousePunkRock, ok that looks like an alright howto ;)10:17
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octanMilhousePunkRock, have you try it?  mean Xgl & compiz?10:17
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abattoirjmichaelx: check if your 386 kernel has the module10:17
MilhousePunkRockoctan: Nice... I wouldn't dare trying XGL on my old Laptop... But I downloaded the Live CD I mentioned earlier, but didn't try it yet...10:17
MilhousePunkRockoctan: I've seen videos though and was kinda impressed...10:18
arepieMilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NavM9V40.html this is the output10:18
MilhousePunkRockoctan: Let me look up a link of something that is even better...10:18
jmichaelxabattoir: should i boot up in 386, or just look in the file?10:18
octanhehe,. yea, a lappy would prob strugle with that10:18
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abattoirjmichaelx: first look...10:18
abattoiri wont be surprised if it was there10:19
jmichaelxabattoir: ok, ummmm, where do i look?10:19
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abattoir /lib/modules/<386kernel>/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper10:20
MilhousePunkRockoctan: Check this out --> http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html10:20
MilhousePunkRockarepie: There is some more altering to in the interfaces, I guess...10:21
octanMilhousePunkRock, ok thxz :)10:21
arepieMilhousePunkRock: urmmm.. what is it~?10:21
MilhousePunkRockoctan: I don't know what OS that is though, they only give poor info...10:21
jmichaelxabattoir: yes, it is there10:22
abattoirjmichaelx: try booting that kernel then...10:22
abattoirjmichaelx: or, you can try reinstalling the 686 kernel10:23
arepiebrb10:23
DB_Bladehope you'll come soon ;)10:23
jmichaelxlemme try reinstalling...... by the way, i saw a madwifi folder... not sure if that is good10:23
abattoiri dont think it'd help10:24
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abattoirjmichaelx: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ....'10:25
abattoirput in the name of your kernel pkg... of course10:26
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jordan_I'am looking for dock (like in Vista)10:28
jmichaelxabattoir: linux-686?10:28
octanMilhousePunkRock that was awsome.. i want that :P10:29
MilhousePunkRockIndeed... But like I said, the don't state what OS it is and what hardware they use...10:29
jordan_anybody: I'am looking for dock in linux10:29
koshnot really sure what you mean10:30
DB_Bladewhy not, kosh?10:30
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Superkaramba maybe?10:30
MilhousePunkRockIs there an option to mute somone's output here?10:30
koshDB_Blade: why don't I know what he means by a dock? because I have seen lots of different things called docks and I have no idea what the vista one is10:30
DB_Bladeyes, that's right10:30
jmichaelxabattoir: ok, i reinstalled and am still getting my fatal error.... probably reinstall time10:30
MilhousePunkRockkosh: Don't bother talking to DB_Blade, I think it's a bot10:31
koshah I see10:31
jordan_kosh resizeing toolbar witch programe10:31
koshsomebody should ban it10:31
MilhousePunkRockI would like to mute him on my end... Is that possible?10:31
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Check out superkaramba10:31
koshyeah you can use /ignore10:31
koshwhat would you put in the dock?10:32
jordan_MilhousePunkRock oki I'm serching10:32
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: I did that for you --> http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html10:32
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jordan_MilhousePunkRock Thanks :)10:32
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, try booting into the 38610:32
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jmichaelxabattoir: ok, brb10:32
DB_Blademsg me when your back, jmichaelx10:33
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Hobbseehi DB_Blade10:33
MilhousePunkRocki think the tuxbar might be something like you are looking for, jordan_10:33
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octanerm,, i managed to get gdm to become my login manager, how do i get kdm back?10:33
MilhousePunkRockGood Job Hobsee!10:33
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Hobbseeproblem solved.10:33
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: :)10:33
Hobbseesomeone could have pinged me over that.10:33
MilhousePunkRockI was wondering if it wa a bot about an hour ago...10:34
MilhousePunkRockBut I did not see your OP-status, Hobbsee10:34
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: freenode policy is to only get ops when needed10:35
MilhousePunkRockThat's why I didn't see it, you didn't have it, Hobbsee... :-)10:35
Hobbsee:)10:35
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MilhousePunkRockjordan_: I think you should really try to stick to one project at a time though... Doing multiple things and none of them properly will get you nowhere...10:36
admin_Mil .. thanks a lot ... my kubuntu works now10:36
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MilhousePunkRockWho, what, me? Nice that I could help...10:36
jmichaelxabattoir: modprobe ndiswrapper worked this time10:36
abattoirdmesg?10:36
MilhousePunkRockadmin_: Who are you anyway?10:37
admin_i was the one u help with the display problem ... remember?10:37
jmichaelxabattoir: several ndiswrapper errors10:37
ThunderStruckanyone ever use ksmooth panel?10:37
admin_i had trouble booting up my X and KDE10:37
MilhousePunkRockWith the wrong modes, who I told to reconfigure X?10:37
abattoirjmichaelx: pastebin10:37
admin_yup10:38
admin_i need more help mil10:38
MilhousePunkRockadmin_: Try to hit the tab button after you type Mil, that will make my complete name come up, so I get notified that you talk to me when I am not in the channel window...10:39
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admin_MilhousePunkRock: ok thanks10:39
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jmichaelxabattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1915510:40
admin_MilhousePunkRock: this is cool10:40
MilhousePunkRockadmin_: Indeed it is...10:40
MilhousePunkRockWhat's the matter now, admin_?10:40
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wckdkl0wnhow would i unpack snowball.0.3.tar.gz into $HOME/.kde/share/apps10:40
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=== MilhousePunkRock hopes it's only basic things though, he is by far not an expert for anything...
admin_MilhousePunkRock: I am trying for decades to implement a samba server with kubuntu for a windows based network ... any leads you can give me?10:41
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abattoirkubuntu has been around for decades?;)10:41
MilhousePunkRockadmin_: No, sorry, I haven't looked into samba yet, I do my "file sharing" with the Windows PC through my USB thumb drive...10:41
abattoirjmichaelx: weird10:42
ThunderStruckabattoir: no kubuntu has only been around a few years10:42
jordan_checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!10:42
admin_MilhousePunkRock: its ok .... appreciate your help10:42
abattoirjmichaelx: can you remove the driver? w/ -e?10:42
jordan_I have error what's do next ?10:43
admin_can anyone help with SAMBA here?10:43
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: I believe that would be "sudo tar -xvcf /path/to/snowball.0.3.tar.gz /home/you/.kde/share/apps/"10:43
abattoirThunderStruck: oh, ok :P10:43
jmichaelxabattoir: i'll try10:43
diego_cl!binutils10:43
ubotuI know nothing about binutils - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:43
jordan_ checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!10:44
jordan_a have error when I'am install suerkaramba10:44
wckdkl0wnMilhousePunkRock: didnt work10:44
wckdkl0wntar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option10:44
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: How did you try it? "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"?10:45
MilhousePunkRockOK, if I only knew what xvcf actually does... What does tar --help say about those?10:45
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: ^^10:45
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jmichaelxabattoir: i uninstall it with -e. but it says it is not installed. however, when i ndiswrapper -l, it is still listed10:46
jordan_no I'm compilation10:46
abattoirjmichaelx: then nothing has changed i guess10:46
wckdkl0wnthats all greek to me lol10:46
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: You shouldn't do that if it's in the repos.. Use my apt-get command from above10:47
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abattoirjmichaelx: i suspect its your driver.... could be something else too though10:47
jmichaelxabattoir: how do i get rid of the darned thing?10:47
jordan_MilhousePunkRock ok i know but I won't learn compilation10:47
octandamn.. how do i get back kdm as my login manager? i managed to screw it up by installing gdm,, which i never should have done. ;(10:48
abattoirjmichaelx: hmmm....10:48
abattoirjmichaelx: you install it w/ the .sys file right?10:49
jmichaelxabattoir: the .sys file is in the folder10:49
abattoirok10:49
kane___anyone here uses Skim IME ?10:50
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Put that on hold until you actually know what you are doing there...10:50
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jordan_MilhousePunkRock oki but im don't won"t flood chat10:51
wolfmanzSamba is installed by default with dapper?10:51
kane___octan: you could try modifying ... cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager10:51
admin_wolfmanz: i dont think so10:52
jordan_MilhousePunkRock10:52
jordan_jordan@jordan:~/superkaramba-0.39$ cd /home/jordan/superkaramba-0.39/superkaramb10:52
jordan_a-0.3910:52
jordan_jordan@jordan:~/superkaramba-0.39/superkaramba-0.39$ ./configure10:52
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: That's what the pastebin is for... I would still suggest, you just use the packet from adept...10:52
wckdkl0wnMilhousePunkRock: someone told me to mv snowball.0.3.tar.gz ~/.kde/share/apps; tar -xzvf snowball.0.3.tar.gz10:52
admin_wolfmanz:  are u looking to install samba server?10:52
jmichaelxabattoir: i am just going to bed at this point... i wll try again soon, thanks again for the help10:52
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: Does that work? You don't have to move it if you specify a target path...10:52
abattoirjmichaelx: ok10:52
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wolfmanzadmin_ i want to setup file sharing with xp there is a samba filer in /etc10:53
wolfmanzsamba folder10:53
wckdkl0wnit moved it but didnt do anything else10:53
wckdkl0wnlol10:53
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jordan_MilhousePunkRock in 99% checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!10:53
JamieBELots of people in here.10:53
JamieBEHi everyone10:53
MilhousePunkRockI guess you need root privileges to write something in that directory...10:54
MilhousePunkRocktry my command with the suffixes from the other guy's suggestion...10:54
jordan_MilhousePunkRock what's wrong10:54
admin_wolfmanz: yeah i am trying to do the same ... i cannot get adept manager to install samba for me ... can u help10:54
MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Don't compile anything that is in the repos, especially if you do not know what it actually does!10:55
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MilhousePunkRockjordan_: Just use "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"10:55
JamieBEDoes KDE automatically stick devices on the desktop when they are plugged in?10:55
wolfmanzadmin i was just checking adept and i do have the samba common files but not samb installed so i gotta do that i guess10:55
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wolfmanzadmin_ you may want to read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216692&highlight=xp+file+sharing10:55
MilhousePunkRockJamieBE: It does for me, if you talk about a USB HDD for example...10:55
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priscilliahey10:56
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JamieBEMilhousePunkRock - Is there a way of turning this option off, so it doesn't auto mount on the desktop10:56
MilhousePunkRockJamieBE: Most likely there is one, but I don't know it, sorry...10:57
MilhousePunkRockJamieBE: And I think it does not mount it there, it's just a link10:57
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wolfmanzadmin_ i just installed samba with adept and that went ok10:57
JamieBENobody does! It seems like such an obvious thing.10:57
priscilliahey jamie10:57
JamieBEHi Priscillia10:57
abattoirmorn] ] ] 10:57
priscilliaare you from belgium?10:58
admin_wolfmanz: could you guide me how you do it?10:58
abattoirugh sorry10:58
MilhousePunkRockJamieBE: Did you try asking in #kde ? although I am not sure if that really is a KDE matter...10:58
JamieBEI am not, no.10:58
priscilliabecause of the BE10:58
priscilliacould be10:58
wckdkl0wnwhere do i apply themes at in kubuntu?10:58
jordan_how to add superkaramba and kadu to autostart ?10:58
JamieBEMilhousePunkRock: I don't even use KDE, I am running Gnome-Ubuntu10:58
wolfmanzadmin_ what the install of samba?10:58
JamieBEBut nobody knows in there!10:58
ThunderStruckwckdkl0wn: system settings10:59
MilhousePunkRockJamieBE: lol, this is Kubuntu... ;-)10:59
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JamieBEI know..... :)10:59
admin_wolfmanz: yes wolf, could you guide me install the samba server10:59
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: What kind of themes? KDM themes?10:59
wckdkl0wnMilhousePunkRock: yea10:59
HealotJamieBE: remove your user from these groups, hal, cdrom, floppy10:59
JamieBEI have got more conversation here than in the #ubuntu help channel so far though!10:59
gnomefreaknow if i ca just figure out how to get ksmooth to sit at bottom i will love it10:59
dnkidjitJamieBE: the devices are actually mounted into /media. i think you can enable / disable if they are shown with Configure Desktop->Behavior->Device Icons10:59
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: do "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"10:59
wolfmanzadmin_ are you not seeing samba in the list of things that adept can install?11:00
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: That's the KDM Theme Manager, once you installed it (and restarted KDE?) it will reside in the system settings...11:00
wckdkl0wnMilhousePunkRock: ty11:00
admin_wolfmanz: yes i do not see the list of things i can install with adept11:00
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: Once you have it I can guide you further...11:00
fritschadmin_ perhaps there aren`t any?11:01
JamieBEHealot - How would I remove a user from these groups? dnkidjit - I don't use KDE, and I don't think gnome has an alternative there.11:01
fritschadmin_: try sudo apt-get update11:01
wolfmanzadmin your not seeing anything at no programs at all in the list?11:01
Kadranhi, how can i restart the sound, i have skype doesn't work and no program use /dev/dsp11:01
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jordan_how to add superkaramba and kadu to autostart ?11:01
fritschKadran: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart11:01
admin_wolfmanz: all i see is the programs i have installed ... no SMB server11:01
wolfmanzjordan just through karamba in your system tray that will load it every time you boot11:02
fritschKadran: try the skype 1.3.0 beta packages, they already support alsa11:02
Kadranfritsch: i tried this but skype still refuse to start?11:02
Kadrani have it already11:02
fritschthere you can switch to "use alsa"11:02
admin_fritsch: i suspect it is not pointing to the appropriate repositories11:02
JamieBEHealot, you still there dude?11:03
fritschah, you get it with apt-get?11:03
Kadranfritsch: yeah the problem happened when i tried to start skype and the Amarok was running11:03
admin_ok i try that11:03
wolfmanzadmin_ in adept under the show options do you got show not installed checked off?11:03
fritschKadran: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html <- have tried this version?11:04
fritschKadran: here skype is working, while listening to music in amarok11:04
Kadranyes i got it from the skype site11:04
fritschKadran: benefit from alsa11:04
fritschKadran: open skype, Tools->options11:05
JamieBEdnkidjit: Would there be an equivenant for Gnome?11:05
Kadranyeah i have done this before but i don't know why it refused this time11:05
dnkidjitJamieBE: sorry. i don't use gnome. i don't know11:06
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fritschKadran: Sound Device, choose alsa11:06
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JamieBEDarn11:06
fritschKadran: restart skype11:06
MilhousePunkRockwckdkl0wn: Did you find it?11:06
Kadranfritsch: still having this strange problem!11:06
admin_wolfmanz: its ticked .... adept tells me all my packages are installed ... i suspect its pointing to the wrong repositories i.e. the CD11:06
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fritschKadran: did you use an earlier version of skype before?11:07
Kadranyeah but i deleted the .skype folder before using the new version11:08
fritschKadran: if you click in skype: help->about what version shows up?11:08
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Kadran1.3.0.3011:08
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fritschKadran: and you chose alsa as your sound device?11:09
Kadrani always use alsa11:09
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fritschKadran: okay, in amarok you also chose alsa? right?11:09
wolfmanzadmin_ goto the repositorie section of adept and in there look for 2 lines that have universe in them and see if they are greyed out11:09
Kadranfritsch: yeah11:10
MilhousePunkRockMorning AegeanLinux_!11:10
fritschKadran: what says: sudo fuser /dev/dsp?11:10
AegeanLinux_Hiya MilhousePunkRock11:10
fritschKadran: or lsof /dev/dsp11:10
MilhousePunkRockAegeanLinux_: How many days left til the release?11:10
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Kadranfritsch: nothing at all11:11
wolfmanzabattoir is samba part of the universe repos?11:11
Kadranno program use the /dev/dsp11:11
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fritschKadran: could you tell me again the error message?11:11
abattoir!info samba11:11
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB11:11
abattoirwolfmanz: main, ^^^^^^^^^11:11
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admin_wolfmanz: i cannot get adept loaded :(((11:12
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wolfmanzabattoir can you help admin_ he is having issues getting samba downloaded11:12
itzjbyrdhello11:12
abattoirwolfmanz: ok11:12
abattoiradmin_: tried apt-get?11:13
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abattoiradmin_: 'sudo apt-get install samba' in a terminal/konsole11:13
admin_abattoir: am trying now ....11:13
wolfmanzi gotta watch these doods kill each other in the UFC lol brb11:13
abattoiradmin_: make sure you have adept closed, before doing it...11:13
JamieBEFOUND IT!! >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75710.html11:14
JamieBETx all 4 ur hlp n e way11:14
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admin_it says my samba was replaced by samba-common and smbclient which are already install11:16
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admin_abattoir: apt-get says my samba was replaced by samba-common and smbclient which are already installed11:17
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: I am on my way to compiling xorg 7.1, so I would guess next few days ...11:17
AegeanLinux__guess__11:17
MilhousePunkRockAegeanLinux: Nice...11:17
abattoiradmin_: what exactly do you want to do?11:18
abattoir!samba11:18
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:18
abattoiradmin_: see if that^^^^ helps you11:18
admin_abattoir: i want my kubuntu to be a samba server in a windows network11:18
fritschadmin_: just do sudo apt-get install samba11:19
admin_fritsch: i just did that but it says my samba already installed ... i suspect mine is only a client ... i want my kubuntu to be a server11:19
abattoiradmin_: do those links help?11:20
admin_ubotu: thanks .... i need to install the server daemon11:20
ubotuI know nothing about thanks .... i need to install the server daemon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:20
abattoiradmin_: ubotu is a bot, a computer program :P11:21
fritschadmin_: samba already installs the server daemon?11:21
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fritschadmin_: try: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart?11:21
MilhousePunkRockI'm sure ubotu has feelings too and is happy if someone actually thanks him though...11:21
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abattoirheh11:22
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fritschadmin_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server (everything up from the beginning)11:22
admin_fritsch: sudo says "command not found" :((((11:23
fritschadmin_: use the TAB completion, could be named other, but try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service11:23
fritschadmin_: it` s a step, be step howto11:24
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fritschadmin_: okay?11:24
admin_fritsch: :((( not okay ..... there is no smbfs in my apt-get list ....I think my apts are pointing to the wrong repositories!11:26
abattoir!info smbfs11:27
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ubotusmbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB11:27
abattoiradmin_: its in main11:27
fritschadmin_: something wrong with your sources.list?11:27
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fritschadmin_: at least you must have in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted11:27
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admin_fritsch: I agree ... how do i fix it?11:27
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fritschadmin_: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and look inthere, if the above line is in there11:28
fritschadmin_: don`t know the "userfriendly" way ;-) I am from debian :-)11:28
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chenlevyHi all.11:29
MilhousePunkRockDoes someone know how I can make OOo _not_ underline the Alt+<key> shortcuts in the menu?11:29
MilhousePunkRockadmin_: Maybe this helps:11:30
MilhousePunkRock!easysource11:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:30
chenlevyI have a crash probme with Konqueror11:31
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chenlevyI have makde a clean install of kubuntu dapper11:31
chenlevyAnd then upgrade to kde 3.4.3 amarok 1.4.1 and latest koffice11:32
chenlevyrun easyubuntu11:32
fritsch3.5.3? correct?11:32
admin_fritsch: my sources list was commented out!!! now its loading the update11:32
MilhousePunkRockchenlevy: Just run the installation from the LiveCD again, that will format your harddrive and you can start from scratch again...11:32
chenlevyyes 3.5.311:32
fritschadmin_: cool :-) just follow the howto11:32
viktoranyone knows if the dapper server is down or something i cant use apt-get :P11:32
fritschchenlevy: does it hard freeze? or do you get an error message?11:32
chenlevynow every site i point konq into it crashes11:33
fritschchenlevy: what leads to this crash? (I try to reproduce it)11:33
fritschchenlevy: something useful in .xsession-errors ?11:33
chenlevyI get the crash manager and the app goes away11:33
fritschchenlevy: computer too warm?11:33
chenlevyX is keep running11:33
fritschchenlevy: some strange konquer plugins installed?11:34
chenlevycomputer can be too warm but ony konq crashes11:34
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chenlevyI tries to remove konq-plugins - same problem11:34
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MilhousePunkRockDoes someone know how I can make OOo _not_ underline the Alt+<key> shortcuts in the menu?11:34
fritschchenlevy: what stands there, if you click on "debug"? when the thing comes up?11:34
chenlevyI can past the debug info (most of it is unknow symbol though)11:35
fritschchenlevy: no, don` t paste11:35
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fritschchenlevy: there was something with no-paste in this channel11:35
fritschchenlevy: try looking in .xsession-errors11:36
fritschchenlevy: it`s in your home11:36
MilhousePunkRockchenlevy: Put it in a paste bin, for example http://pastebin.ca11:36
gnomefreak!paste11:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:36
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viktoranyone knows how o get the digital audio outpot to work in kubuntu ?11:37
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fritschviktor: try alsamixer to enable your digial output11:37
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chenlevyIn the .xsession i get somthing like this (sory for the past but it is short)11:38
chenlevyScimInputContextPlugin()11:38
chenlevyX Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 811:38
chenlevy  Major opcode:  15711:38
chenlevy  Minor opcode:  611:38
chenlevy  Resource id:  0xa311:38
chenlevyASSERT: "data->bitmap" in kernel/qbitmap.cpp (222)11:38
chenlevyKCrash: Application 'konqueror' crashing...11:38
fritschchenlevy: what tells: ps aux |grep kded11:39
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RawSewageHow do you increase the Recent Documents list from 10 to more11:40
chenlevymy ps -aux |grep kded is:11:40
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chenlevychenlevy  6544  0.1  1.7  34564 18468 ?        S    12:27   0:01 kded [kdeinit]  --new-startup11:40
viktorfritsch that didn't work to well :/11:40
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fritschchenlevy: okay, it`s running, sorry can`t help then..11:41
fritschviktor: does anything come out? what means too well? well != bad ;-)11:41
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fritschchenlevy: sometimes it helps to rm -r ~/.kde* :-) but do not type anything wrong, it removes everything user kde related (amarok settings, all kde settings) be carefull and don`t place the * wrong11:43
viktorfritsch no i starts alsamixer but i can't find out how to enable the digital output ??11:43
Ace2007you mean rm -r ~/.kde/*11:44
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fritschAce2007: no, there is also a ~/.kderc i want to get11:44
fritschAce2007: so I remove the direcotry .kde und the .kderc11:44
Ace2007oh right ok11:44
fritschviktor: mmh, what is your soundcard?11:45
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chenlevyI have already tryied moveing my .kde/ and my .font* too, but I didn't try .kderc yet.11:45
chenlevyI will try it now.11:45
chenlevyI will need to disconnect to and restart X, so tanks for now11:46
fritschchenlevy: don`t give you much hope with it11:46
fritschchenlevy: no just logout and in11:46
viktorfritsch Realtek ALC850 7.111:46
fritschchenlevy: you culd try: strace konqueror (perhaps here you can see something)11:47
Ace2007for me .kderc only has some colour values in it so what difference does deleting it make?11:47
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chenlevyfwiw konquoror works find as a file manager11:47
dhq_how to mount a iso11:48
Ace2007dhq_: you can find mount iso at kde-apps11:48
fritschAce2007: it does not make many sense11:48
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chenlevyI have tried strace but was unable to get much smarter form the result11:49
dhq_Ace2007:  whats kde-apps11:49
fritschchenlevy: but it crashed again?11:49
Ace2007dhq_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1157711:49
chenlevyhold on11:49
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dhq_Ace2007: i downloaded the file its a tar .gz i am newbie so plz help11:50
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chenlevyI am back11:52
chenlevyI am no running with a fresh .kde and .kderc and konq crashes like there is no tommorow11:53
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dhq_Ace2007: i have a bin/cue file and want to mount it11:53
fritschchenlevy: does the kernel say something about memory? dmesg11:54
fritschchenlevy: no tomorrow :-)11:54
Ace2007dhq_: mount iso says it can mount bin/cue files11:54
MilhousePunkRockbrb11:55
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fritschchenlevy: you could try a ram test? (did not see it so often crashing)11:56
chenlevyI get nothing form /var/log/messages11:57
Ace2007dhq_: Have you installed it?11:57
chenlevyI will go and run memtest now11:57
fritschchenlevy: dmesg11:57
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crparrHi! What is the correct way to install a flash plugin for mozilla firefox on an amd64?11:58
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fritschcrparr: not to install it :-)11:58
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fritschcrparr: http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=214112:00
Ace2007I have to go now, my sister is dragging me to blockbuster, bye :(12:00
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chenlevycan't find any obvious problems by dmesg12:00
crparrWell - I also do not like flash - but two of my favorite sites use flash... therefor: how can I install the plugin for ff on amd64?12:01
fritschchenlevy: you could try the 3.5.4 beta? packages for kubuntu12:01
fritschcrparr: 14112:01
fritschcrparr: http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=214112:01
chenlevywhere is the repos for  3.5.4 beta ?12:02
fritschchenlevy: tell me your packages.kubuntu line fr 353?12:02
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chenlevyfritsch: (I cannot page you in private) please explain the last message12:03
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chenlevywhat is my sorces.list with reguard to 353 ?12:03
fritschchenlevy: which version of kde do you use?12:03
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chenlevydeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main12:04
fritschchenlevy: to use it, you placed an extra entry into your /etc/apt/sources.list? correct?12:04
fritschchenlevy: try  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main12:04
fritschchenlevy: BUT I do not know if it`s working in any way ...12:04
chenlevyIs that uses jonathan radell key?12:04
fritschchenlevy: a dist-upgrade will remove kdelibs-bin (because of this, i did not try)12:04
fritschchenlevy: yes12:05
chenlevyok thanks I will try it now12:05
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fritschchenlevy: Jonathan Riddell, but be warned, never tested, you could end up very broken :-)12:05
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fritschchenlevy: an apt-get upgrade is not enough, apt-get dist-upgrade does install more, i do not know if i should recommend this :-)12:06
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fritschchenlevy: i do not12:06
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: You are not familiar with OOo settings by any chance?12:06
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmm, i dont use it, I use Koffice, but anyways ask, i might know...12:07
chenlevyfritsch: thanks. I got it. but since it is borken as it is, I will give it a shot. Morever I will not have to patch kttsd. It is a plus for me12:08
crparrone more question: Is it possible to emulate 32bit? In gentoo Linux that was the way to get 32bit tools to run.12:08
fritschchenlevy: downgrading can be very hard12:08
fritschchenlevy: good luck, what does it want to remove? when you say dist-upgrade?12:09
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MilhousePunkRockMy OOo looks like this: http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto3dz4.png12:09
MilhousePunkRockNote the very fat underlining, abattoir, that's my problem...12:10
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: are these the same as your KDE fonts?12:10
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i mean, same font style?12:10
MilhousePunkRockFont style as in font name?12:11
fritschabattoir: I would suggest him to delete his personal ooo config files, because it`s really NOT looking normal12:11
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: Kcontrol/systemsettings has an option for GTK sytles and fonts... maybe that'd help12:11
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fritschchenlevy: still there?12:12
abattoirfritsch: hmm, i dont use OO.o, as i said, so i guess you'd know better :P12:12
MilhousePunkRockIt's solved, abattoir... "Using system fonts for user interface" was the problem... fritsch too12:12
fritschabattoir: yes, your way was much better :-)12:12
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: in the GTK styles/fonts thing?12:12
fritschabattoir: fixed, cool.12:12
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abattoirfritsch: hmm... whatever :P12:13
MilhousePunkRockOOo is a GTK app? o_O Another thing staining my KDE... ;-)12:13
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: yes it is12:16
AegeanLinuxMake it look nice VIA using a program called 'QtCurve'12:16
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AegeanLinuxthen it will fit into KDE ;)12:17
AegeanLinux(so will firefox and other GTK+ apps)12:17
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menno_hi. is Kino a good videoprog for using with a DVcam?12:33
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theoverloadhi all12:38
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MilhousePunkRock!qtcurve12:43
ubotuI know nothing about qtcurve - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:43
MilhousePunkRock!info qtcurve12:44
ubotuPackage qtcurve does not exist in dapper12:44
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LacertaIIi seem to have a problem with wireless assistant12:47
LacertaIIhow can i configure it?12:48
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LacertaIIMost screenshots show the "configure"-button which i don't have12:48
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schmoanyone here made use of kdevelop on kubunti?01:06
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Ace2005I'm back!!!!01:19
abattoirback from the future? :P01:21
Ace2005hi abattoir01:21
Ace2005no from the past01:21
abattoirAce2005: hello Ace2005, werent you Ace2007 in the morning?01:21
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abattoirwell then 'Back to the Future' then01:21
Ace2007oh yes i was01:21
Ace2007would anyone by any chance know how to configure ksensors?01:22
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Ace2007how do i make it show my CPU temperature01:23
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chenlevyfritsch, and everybody: here are the results of my upgrade to 3.5.4 beta with respect to my konq crashes.01:24
Ace2007when i try to start lm-sensors i get Setting sensors limits...                                             [fail] 01:24
chenlevyIn short. It solved the problems01:24
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Ace2007chenlevy: so how about the extended edition?01:25
chenlevyI am unsure for why konqeror was broken on my end.01:25
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diego_cl!synaptic01:26
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:26
chenlevyIt was an almose by the book clean installation01:26
Ace2007what new things are there?01:26
Ace2007why almost?01:26
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chenlevybut as a web broser konq was crashing on me *everytime*01:26
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chenlevyso taking fritsch's advice I upgraded to 3.5.4 beta and now konq works find01:27
Ace2007its been crashing on me a bit too, it might be a plugin issue01:27
chenlevyI have the expected beta brakage, but I will plow along with it, resolveing it as i go01:27
chenlevyThanks for everybody for the advice.01:27
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zsuzsihi01:28
zsuzsii have created a kubuntu GRUB boot splash for widescreen displays01:29
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zsuzsiany way i can upload it somewhere so other people will see?01:29
Ace2007imageshack?01:29
zsuzsiwhere is that?01:29
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Ace2007google it01:30
zsuzsiok :)01:30
Ace2007http://imageshack.us/01:30
zsuzsido they take .xpm.gz files too?01:30
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Ace2007imageshack is just for images, i want to see what it looks like before i install it01:31
zsuzsiok01:31
zsuzsibut even xpm is unsupported.01:31
Ace2007you could put it on rapidshare01:31
zsuzsishall i just convert it then?01:31
zsuzsioh01:31
zsuzsianother site i never heard of :p01:32
chenlevyAce2007: I have signled out the konq-plug issue by removing the package, but it went boom anyway01:32
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zsuzsithere, here's the download link: http://rapidshare.de/files/27431859/WidescreenKubuntuBootSplash.xpm.html01:33
zsuzsiit doesnt look like its widescreen01:33
ninniuzhi how come the latest kernel available is 2.6.15 while the latest stable release is 2.6.17?01:33
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zsuzsicoz the resolution is 640x48001:33
Ace2007chenlevy: thanks for the info01:33
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zsuzsibut it is shrinked so when GRUB spreads it, it fits perfectly.01:33
ninniuzwhere can I get some sort of kernel release plan ?01:34
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Ace2007zsuzsi: so where does the text go?01:35
zsuzsiabove the kubuntu logo.01:35
zsuzsigrub takes care of that.01:35
zsuzsiin fact, the kubuntu logo kinda lies inside the box01:35
Ace2007zsuzsi: i think i'll have a go too01:35
zsuzsiso the choices are above it, but the text is at the bottom01:36
Ace2007zsuzsi: Is there a limit on the colours you can use?01:36
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zsuzsiyes01:36
zsuzsi1401:36
zsuzsithe image has to be 640x480, and 14 colours.01:36
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Ace2007zsuzsi: Not enough colours :( i want more01:37
grothesk_Having upgraded my kubunut dapper to kde 3.5.4 arts now keeps crashing when a systemsound is being played.01:37
grothesk_What can I do about it?01:38
zsuzsii know, me too. but i dont know how that can be done. i just read some stuff about it on the internet and they all said it just has to be 14 colours.01:38
zsuzsigrothesk_, is it your entire desktop that crashes or just the program you are trying to use?01:39
Ace2007zsuzsi: well there won't be this restriction in grub201:39
zsuzsiah i'm very happy about that!!!!01:39
zsuzsi:D01:39
zsuzsiis that coming with edgy?01:39
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grothesk_zsuzsi: It' just  artsd.01:39
Ace2007zsuzsi: its in the repo now but i'm not touching it, i'm not reinstalling again this week01:40
zsuzsiwhatrepo?01:40
zsuzsione of the standard ubuntu repos?01:40
Ace2007zsuzsi: how do i find out which one?01:41
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zsuzsium, i have no clue, other than when you disable all the other repos you can't find it in synaptic. it doesn't matter if it's in one of the standard ubuntu repos. :p01:41
zsuzsigrothesk_, do you get some kind of a signal (eg. "signal 11")?01:42
zsuzsior error message, or something?01:43
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Ace2007grothesk_: it it like when you press play and everything crashes, and nothing works, and the mouse stops working and the keyboard does nothing and the only option is to press the reset button?01:43
grothesk_zsuzsi: Signal 6 SIGABRT01:44
grothesk_Ace2007: No, just artsd crashes.01:44
Ace2007grothesk_: seems like i'm the only one it happens to01:45
grothesk_#1  0x43af3933 in waitpid () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.601:45
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zsuzsigrothesk_ (and Ace2007?) it seems like a KDE related problem01:47
zsuzsii've found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=43758701:47
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Ace2007grothesk_: well you could disable arts01:48
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zsuzsithe last post there seems to suggest a solution?01:48
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zsuzsiyes, you can just simply try to run eg. ALSA.01:48
zsuzsithough i'm not entirely sure how to do that off the top of my head..01:49
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zsuzsianyway, is there a central kubuntu arts site, or something?01:50
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MuJhe's running alsa already01:51
MuJit's kernel component, whereas arts is application01:51
diego_clis there a "start" folder on kubuntu ?!?!01:52
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Ace2007diego_cl: like run on startup?01:52
MuJwhat's "start" "folder"?01:52
diego_clyes01:52
Ace2007~/.kde/Autostart/01:52
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diego_clTHANKS !01:53
RawSewagemy update kdelibs-data has been broken for several days now01:53
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Ace2007thats a statement and not a question01:54
grothesk_Turned off arts. Works for me... *g*01:54
RawSewagemy update kdelibs-data has been broken for several days now.  is it broekn for anyone else?01:55
zsuzsiRawSewage, um, not for me.01:56
RawSewageweird01:56
Ace2007RawSewage: Why is it broken?01:56
RawSewageI dont know01:56
fritschRawSewage: which version?01:56
RawSewageThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.01:56
RawSewageI assume the latest01:57
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fritschRawSewage: 3.5.4 or 3.5.301:57
RawSewagewhat is it.   /exec01:57
diego_clAce2007: my startup folder is empty and when I login in Kubuntu KDE, an internet website and the mixer are opened01:57
RawSewagewhat is it.   /exec kde-version01:57
fritschRawSewage: run kcontrol01:57
RawSewageQt: 3.3.601:58
RawSewageKDE: 3.5.301:58
RawSewagekde-config: 1.001:58
RawSewageyou can type /exec kdeversion01:58
RawSewagein Konversation01:58
fritschRawSewage: what do you mean exactly with broken? not installable?01:58
Ace2007diego_cl: that is because kubuntu is set to carry on from the time you shut down, do you want it to start with nothing?01:58
diego_clyes01:58
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diego_clonly with some things in the taskbar01:58
RawSewagefritsch, its stuck on  'There is 1 updated package available'  .   When I try to apply the update, it stops halfway though, and gives me the error01:58
Ace2007diego_cl: run kcontrol01:59
diego_clthe issue is that it open very old things !01:59
Ace2007diego_cl: go into KDE Components > Session Manager01:59
fritschRawSewage: dpkg -i --force /var/cache/apt/archives/YOURPACKAGE.deb01:59
fritschRawSewage: just try01:59
Ace2007diego_cl: then set it to start wih empty session01:59
RawSewageI dont know what package01:59
RawSewagekdelibs-data02:00
fritschRawSewage: open a terminal02:00
RawSewageI'll try what you said02:00
fritschRawSewage: sudo apt-get upgrade02:00
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Ace2007diego_cl: now it will start with nothing open at startup02:00
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fritschRawSewage: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/yourpackage.deb02:00
fritschRawSewage: replace yourpackage, of course02:00
RawSewageok02:00
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RawSewagethere is no deb02:01
RawSewageoh well, thx02:01
RawSewageIll just wait02:01
fritschRawSewage: do sudo apt-get upgrade02:02
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fritschRawSewage: what happens then?02:02
RawSewagehm02:02
RawSewageafter running it in a terminal02:02
RawSewagedpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_all.deb (--unpack):02:02
RawSewage trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package ktorrent02:02
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RawSewageI'll be back in 30 minutes02:03
diego_clAce2007: i knew that, but thanks. now, can you tell me WHY my session starts with things that y didnt leave open the last time i used the computer ?!?!  they are always the same two things02:03
fritschRawSewage: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_all.deb02:03
RawSewageok, I'll try that02:03
RawSewagethx02:03
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Ace2007diego_cl: what ones are they?02:04
fritschRawSewage: working?02:04
RawSewagefritsch, it got rid of the tray Alert.  I got this error though:  ** (process:21521): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed02:04
stevenHey, guys.02:04
RawSewagebut I guess it cleared it02:04
diego_clAce2007: a website in konqueror and the sound mixer02:04
fritschRawSewage: nothing to do with the error02:04
smoqhey02:04
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RawSewagefritsch, so it's fixed?02:04
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stevenOkay, first time on KDE. Normally use to GNOME.02:05
fritschRawSewage: try again sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:05
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fritschRawSewage: If then working okay - fixed :-)02:05
steven;)02:05
diego_clAce2007: sound mixer as a window (not only as an icon at the taskbar)02:05
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stevenI've been converted.02:05
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smoqwhich IRC klient are the best at dapper?02:06
RawSewagefritsch, all fixed.  thanks a lot02:06
Ace2007diego_cl: strange konqueror should not come and neigher should kmix02:06
stevensmoq: X-Chat.02:06
I_Eat_Plasticxchat02:06
stevenI hate Konversation.02:06
fritschRawSewage: no problem ... have fun02:06
stevenGah.02:06
fritschi am currently using ksirc02:06
smoqthanx02:06
nEcrodamoskonversation also works fine02:06
stevenMeh.02:06
I_Eat_Plasticirssi <3 lol02:06
fritschit`s okay for chatting, but konversation is the dapper standard02:06
stevenIt's just personal opinion.02:06
fritschyes02:06
ubuntuhow do i install java in kubuntu ?02:06
stevenI_Eat_Plastic: I tried using IRC in Terminal, but I'd always close the window and go "DAMNIT!"02:07
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ubuntuhow do i install java in kubuntu ?02:07
smoq10 minutes ago, I've install konversation02:07
smoq:D02:07
I_Eat_Plasticubuntu: I have the same problem.02:07
stevenubuntu: Google the Ubuntuforums.org for Automatix. That will help you.02:07
ubuntuthx02:07
nEcrodamosautomatix is realy good02:07
I_Eat_PlasticI actually came here with an issue with Java, anyone mind helping?02:07
stevenLove it. That's what I'm doing right now.02:07
diego_clAce2007: I thing that my brother was viewing that website... and he didn't know linux... maybe he crashed the computer! can I erase some folder to fix that ?02:07
Ace2007if you delete .kde then all of kde's settings will be gone02:08
noiesmoI heard automatix is crap and people have lots of problems02:09
I_Eat_PlasticEverything I try to install / uninstall, or do anything that makes any change to my system, Adept always gives me an issue while processing "sun-java5-doc"... After this Adept give me an error box and takes me back to the main screen.02:09
stevennoiesmo: Then they should post that in Ubuntuforums.org and tell the Developers.02:09
stevenCommon Sense regins in again!02:10
stevenVICTORY!02:10
diego_clAce2007: can you tell me which folders from .KDE can I erase ?02:10
stevendiego_cl: I think .kde is a file.02:10
fritschsteven: no, it`s a direcotry02:10
diego_cl:o02:10
stevenOh. :D02:10
fritschdrwx------  .kde02:11
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|lostbyte|:P02:12
|lostbyte|Hi guys.02:12
stevenYo.02:12
stevenWhat the....02:13
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dhqhey02:13
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stevenSomething is horribly wrong, when you can die while doing updates.02:13
steven:D02:13
dhq|lostbyte|:02:13
Ace2007die doing updates?02:13
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|lostbyte|steven, :)02:14
stevenYeah. Like so much time has passed that....your kaput.02:14
stevenYou know, End of Story. Connection Reset by Peer. Pipe Broken. Processor overheat.02:14
stevenDead.02:14
dhqhey the most of pakages availible are not there in my adept02:14
|lostbyte|!repos02:14
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:14
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|lostbyte|dhq, ^^02:15
stevenOooooh.02:15
diego_clAce2007: i found the problem!  (i think)02:15
stevenGotten frisky with the remote commands, eh?02:15
Ace2007diego_cl: what was it?02:15
diego_clAce2007: there was some files that i erased from the temp folder in ~/.KDE/02:15
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Ace2007diego_cl: so you erased the whole thing so that kde will be forced to start with a fresh working config?02:16
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diego_clAce2007: but im not 100% sure, know im going to reboot, THANKS!02:16
diego_clAce2007: no, i only erased 3 files from...02:17
fritschdiego_cl: reboot only if you change your kernel :-) linux != windows02:17
dhq|lostbyte|: so to get all the packages in my adept what do i have to do02:17
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|lostbyte|dhq, Read the links ubotu GAve, will help you understand..02:17
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diego_clAce2007: .kde/tmp-salita/02:18
dhq|lostbyte|: i read but  dont seem to undersatn02:18
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diego_clAce2007: salita is my computer name02:19
|lostbyte|Which part you didt understand ?02:19
Ace2007diego_cl: yea i looked in there, all i had was two crash logs and ksycoca02:20
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diego_clAce2007: yes, me too02:21
Ace2007diego_cl: so did it fix it?02:21
diego_clAce2007: and the two crash logs are from the webstite tha open it when i login02:21
stevenHey, how do I set keyboard shortcuts in KDE?02:21
diego_clAce2007: i dont know yet, i have to reboot02:22
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|lostbyte|dhq, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:22
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Ace2007steven: kcontrol > Regional and Accessibility and go into Keyboard Shortcuts02:23
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Ace2007steven: go into input actions instead02:23
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Ace2007and add a new action02:24
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stevenAce, and that is where?02:25
steven>.>02:25
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slow-motionhallo02:29
Ace2007steven: kcontrol? just press Alt+F2 and type in kcontrol02:29
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Ace2007steven: kcontrol > Regional and Accessibility and go into input actions02:29
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stevenGot it.02:29
derlinuxanfdir kann mir einer helfen habe hier ein packet entpackt und jetzt will ich es installieren02:29
stevenderlinuxanf: English.02:30
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derlinuxanfdeutsch02:30
derlinuxanfwie kann ich privat schreiben02:30
stevenEnglish?02:30
grothesk_derlinuxanf: join kubuntu-de02:30
stevenThanks grothesk_02:30
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wombatunderhi02:34
Ace2007hi02:36
wombatunderI've got some ubuntu Q's, can you help? please?02:36
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Ace2007so whats the question?02:37
dimkahello! I'm lost in ubuntu's site. Please anyone point me to howto on installing binary nvidia in _kubuntu_ :)02:37
Hobbsee!nvidia02:38
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:38
stevenHobbsee: Wouldn't Automatix work also, for the more simpler route?02:38
dimkaHobbsee: that's for _ubuntu_02:38
abattoirdimka: most of the instructions apply for kubuntu as well02:38
Hobbsee!automatix02:38
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:38
Hobbsee!easyubuntu02:38
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:38
dimkaabattoir: but there's no synaptic package manager :)02:39
Hobbseesteven: automatix likes to break things, unfortunately02:39
Hobbseedimka: shouldnt matter.02:39
stevenHobbsee: Nothing bad yet, here.02:39
abattoirdimka: there's adept :)02:39
Hobbseedimka: okay, substitute synaptic with adept02:39
stevenRan it two years in a GNOME enviroment, and now I'm running it in a KDE enviroment.02:39
Ace2007dimka: apt-get install synaptic02:39
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dimkaHobbsee: thanks :)02:39
abattoirdimka: and 'gedit' w/ 'kate' if you come across that :P02:39
Ace2007dimka: sorry that should be sudo apt-get install synaptic02:39
HobbseeAce2007: well, that's the other possibility.02:40
Ace2007Hobbsee: i like synaptic for some reason02:40
wombatunderI'm running ubuntu 6 off a boot cd and firefox is telling me I need to install a java plugin but it won't do it on it's own and I can't work out how to do it myself. this is the first time I have ever used linux.02:40
dimkathanks to all :)02:40
McScruffwombatunder: open adept02:40
Hobbsee!java02:40
dimkaone more thing: why kmail is missing in my Internet  menu???02:40
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:40
wombatunderwhat's that?02:40
Hobbseewombatunder: ^02:40
Hobbseedimka: it's under as kontact02:41
dimkaHobbsee: no, kontact is missing too :). And no way to get it separate?02:41
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Ace2007Ok i'm off bye everyone :)02:42
Hobbseedimka: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?02:42
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abattoirdimka: kontact is under office02:42
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Hobbseeabattoir: ahh...is that it...02:42
abattoiri guess :)02:43
McScruffbbl02:44
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dimkaHobbsee: I'm novice, so I'll try it. Now my questions are all stupid ;)02:44
dimkabtw, easyubuntu didn' work :)02:45
Hobbseedimka: ahh...didnt it?  and there are no stupid questions02:45
Hobbseedimka: did you check out the first time documentation?  i think it's under kmenu, help - from what i recall, it's pretty good02:45
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dimkaHobbsee: E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree02:46
dimkaHobbsee: not yet, I'll check it02:46
abattoir!info flashplugin-nonfre02:46
ubotuPackage flashplugin-nonfre does not exist in dapper02:46
abattoir!info flashplugin-nonfree02:46
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)02:46
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abattoirdimka: you'd need to enable the multiverse repository02:47
abattoir!multiverse02:47
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abattoirdimka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu should be _kubuntu_ specific :)02:47
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dimkaabattoir: I checked that checkbox in easyubuntu :)02:47
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dimkawow, ppl! So much info :). I'm off to reading it all ;)02:48
dimkasee ya :)02:48
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wombatunderSorry, I'm being a bit dumb today, I didn't understand any of what I read in the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. Does anybody feel like helping a complete noob one on one?02:51
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abattoirwombatunder: firefox right?02:53
wombatunderyeah02:53
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abattoirwombatunder: open a terminal/konsole and run 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin'02:56
abattoirwombatunder: after that, open up firefox, see if the plugin is installed and if it works02:56
abattoiri'm not sure if you need the JRE before that though02:56
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wombatunderit said02:58
wombatunderubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin/Reading package lists... Done/Building dependency tree... Done/E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin02:58
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abattoir!info sun-java5-plugin02:58
ubotusun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB02:58
abattoirwombatunder: enable the multiverse repository02:58
abattoir!multiverse02:58
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:58
wombatunderhow?02:58
abattoirhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:59
wombatunderhang on02:59
wombatunderwill that work for ubunut?02:59
wombatunderubuntu02:59
abattoirubuntu and kubuntu share the same base... for Ubuntu, the default desktop environment is Gnome, while for Kubuntu it is KDE03:00
wombatunderok03:01
Tm_Thi abattoir :)03:01
abattoirso, while there'd be some minor differences, especially different applications etc., but the core procedure is pretty similar :)03:01
abattoirTm_T: hello :)03:01
wombatunderdoes kde deal with windows programs?03:01
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Tm_Twombatunder: wine is what you're looking for03:01
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abattoirwombatunder: as in Microsoft Windows?03:01
wombatunderyeah, sorry03:02
abattoirthen as Tm_T said, wine is the program...03:02
wombatunderI've read so much over the last few days that most of it has become a blur :-S03:02
abattoir!info wine03:02
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB03:02
abattoir!wine03:02
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:02
Tm_Twombatunder: give it a time, and you will learn a lot03:02
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abattoirthese should get you started^^^^03:02
wombatunderthat sounds familiar03:02
stevenEveryone still here?03:03
Tm_Tno03:04
Tm_Twe are all gone home03:04
stevenThanks.03:04
steven:D03:04
Tm_T;)03:04
stevenI was actually messing with Guard Dog.03:04
stevenUhh...03:05
stevenI have a 173ms lag.03:05
stevenYay.03:05
steven95.03:06
Tm_Tthat's not much03:06
stevenTm_T: I know.03:06
Tm_Tbe worried when it's over a minute ;)03:06
stevenI'm use to 80's to 95.03:06
stevenYeah, that'd worry me.03:06
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Tm_TI'm too used to < 10s lags03:06
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abattoirTm_T: hehe, GPRS days? :P03:07
steven>.>03:07
Tm_Tabattoir: yup03:08
Tm_Teven ssh terminal had 5s lag to every keypress03:08
wombatundercan you install ubuntu on an NTFS partition?03:09
stevenNo.03:09
wombatundercrap03:09
stevenYou can repartition it...03:09
stevenAnd split your HDD in any way.03:10
abattoirwombatunder: ntfs write support in linux is still highly experimental03:10
ccc_good actually, since ntfs is crap03:10
wombatunderwhen I reboot will I have to go through all this again?03:10
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abattoirwombatunder: yes, unless you decide to install it, of course :)03:10
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wombatunderwhat's the smallest hdd I can use? I have some small ones lying around03:11
abattoiri guess a normal ubuntu install is around ~3 GB03:11
wombatunderjust to install a boot of ubuntu?03:11
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abattoirwombatunder: how much extra you'd need depends on you03:11
wombatunderis ther a page file or something similar? where would the additional apps need to be installed?03:11
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abattoirwombatunder: this ofcourse comes with almost all common desktop applications installed...03:12
abattoirwombatunder: you mean what additional apps are available?03:12
wombatunderI can read NTFS but not write from linux is that right?03:12
abattoirwombatunder: there are thousands of packages... you can browse them at packages.ubuntu.com03:12
abattoirwombatunder: yes03:13
wombatunderwhat filesystem does linux use? FAT32?03:13
abattoirwombatunder: nope, linux uses more advanced filesystems like ext3, reiserfs and xfs...03:14
abattoir:P03:14
wombatundernot accessable from windoze?03:14
abattoirwombatunder: nope, unless you use additional software03:14
wombatunderso it is possible? I'm thinking dual boot 'cause the missus won't want anything to do with linux.03:15
abattoirwombatunder: yes, dual boot would be a good idea :)03:15
wombatundercan I change fat32 files from linux?03:16
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abattoirwombatunder: yes03:16
wombatunderthat would explain the cold shiver I got when i chose NTFS when I installed win XP ;)03:18
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drbreenwombatunder: ntfs is the ev1l03:18
wombatunderso I'm learning03:18
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wombatunderthis might not be the right place to ask but, can you make a FAT32 partition bigger than 27gig?03:19
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wombatunderI don't think I can actually install java.03:21
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wombatunderI got an error03:24
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wombatunderwhat does this command do? "rm -rf *" without the ""03:27
dimsuzwombatunder: deletes all files in current dir03:27
wombatunderI thought so03:27
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dimsuzwill apt-get install continue downloading or starts it from beg - if I interrupt it with CTRL-C?03:29
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abattoirdimsuz: from what i have seen, it continues03:29
dimsuzabattoir: ok :)03:29
dimsuz!nvidia-glx03:30
ubotuI know nothing about nvidia-glx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:31
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dimsuz!info nvidia-glx03:31
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB03:31
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dimsuzhmm interesting... ubotu said that nvidia is version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3, and my apt-get is currently installing almost the same version, only with -1 at the end.03:33
dimsuzand I just updated03:33
dimsuzwhy is this so?03:33
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abattoirdimsuz: you are sure about the kernel version, right? 2.6.15.11?03:35
dimsuzabattoir: yes, in both cases.03:36
dimsuzafter ubotu's comes "-3", my apt-get now downloads "-1" :)03:36
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dimsuzabattoir: oh, am I clean enough? :) i've not very perfect english...03:37
abattoirdimsuz: of course, i understood you :)03:37
abattoirweird inded03:37
dimsuzabattoir: well, that's not a big issue. I'm just curious.03:37
abattoir*indeed03:37
dimsuzabattoir: maybe this is because i didn't do _upgrade_? I only "fetched updates" with adept.03:38
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jordan_hi03:38
dimsuzAnd now try to learn commandline apt :)03:38
Keddiehelp, I downloaded and installed a kde screensaver, however I am using gnome. any idea how I can run the screensaver in gnome? I asked in the ubuntu channel, but did not get an answer.03:38
abattoirdimsuz: i dont use adept, but i think that is equivalent to 'sudo apt-get update'03:39
abattoirdimsuz: not sure... wait a sec03:39
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jordan_anybody useing superkaramba03:39
jordan_?03:39
wombatunderthanx for your help abattoir, I'll hunt down a spare hdd and do an install I think. later.03:39
abattoirjordan_: me...03:39
abattoirwombatunder: no problem :)03:39
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abattoirjordan_: i'm familiar w/ it, even though i'm not using it currently03:40
Teejay_wphi anybody had problems with skype when they installed it on kubuntu03:40
jordan_abattoir i looking for something like Dock in Vista03:40
abattoirdimsuz: why dont you try 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'03:40
dimsuzabattoir: appears so03:40
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Tm_T?03:41
Tm_Tvista?03:41
abattoirmicrosoft gives its own names to already existing stuff...03:41
Teejay_wpI tried to call somebody but it said I had a problem with the sound device, the headphone and mic appear to be not on mute03:41
jordan_abattoir object dock, star dock ?03:41
jordan_toolbar witch program03:41
abattoirjordan_: stardock is a company :P03:41
abattoirfor a dock, kxdocker is good03:42
jordan_something like MAc OS03:42
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abattoirits not superkaramba though03:42
Tm_Tabattoir: you should turn on MS translator -plugin to your irc-client03:42
abattoir!info kxdocker03:42
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB03:42
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jordan_abattoir thanks03:42
abattoirTm_T: hehe... well, they call desktop widgets 'gadgets'...03:42
Tm_Tugh03:42
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abattoirso i'd expect them to call something else a 'dock' and a 'dock something else :P03:42
Tm_Tabattoir: I bet they make it as registered trademark or so03:43
abattoirTm_T: of course, and say it is an *innovative* feature, when it has existed for so many years03:43
Tm_Texactly =)03:43
Tm_Toh I love the power of pullshit, err, I mean, promotion03:44
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dimsuzabattoir: I want to do step-by-step learning :). I just installed kubuntu ;)03:44
abattoirdimsuz: sure, what do you want help with?03:44
abattoirdimsuz: installing nvidia drivers?03:44
Tm_Tdimsuz: are you willing to use time and patience?03:44
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Tm_Tabattoir: I do03:45
abattoirTm_T: well, then you can help him... if he needs help w/ that :)03:45
Tm_Tyup03:45
abattoirTm_T: btw, any idea on when Kopete 0.12.2 is expected?03:46
Tm_Tabattoir: never?03:46
abattoiror is it .303:46
Tm_Tabattoir: 0.12.1 is latest03:46
Tm_Tand no idea if need one more bugfixrelease03:46
abattoirTm_T: oh, ok :)03:47
dimsuzabattoir: I'm doing it now :). I meant that I don't do dist-upgrade because I want to learn commands one by one ;).03:47
Tm_TI already have 0.50 working03:47
dimsuzabattoir: Thank you very much - you're very responsive! :)03:47
abattoirdimsuz: oh, ok...03:47
abattoirdimsuz: hehe03:47
dimsuzTm_T: what do you mean?03:47
abattoirTm_T: of kopete?03:47
Tm_Tabattoir: yes03:47
Tm_Tdimsuz: I mean, if you have time and patience, you will learn a lot :)03:48
abattoirTm_T: hmmm, 0.12->0.50? :P03:48
Tm_Tdimsuz: and have fun too :)03:48
Tm_Tabattoir: well, 0.12 -> 1.003:48
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dimsuzTm_T: ah, of course :)03:48
Tm_Tabattoir: but 0.50 is pre-pre-preborkage of 1.003:48
abattoirTm_T: interesting, i heard k3b might do the leap too...03:48
Tm_Tdimsuz: then if you need help, just ask ;)03:48
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dimsuzTm_T: thanks!03:49
Tm_Tabattoir: Kopete 1.0 is planned to release in KDE403:49
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abattoirTm_T: hmmm... so its still a long time away then...03:49
Tm_Tabattoir: yup03:49
abattoirTm_T: thanks for the info :)03:49
Tm_Tnp03:49
Tm_Tabattoir: btw KDE4 is already hilarious03:50
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abattoirTm_T: heh, what do you mean?03:50
Tm_Tcrashy++ <303:50
abattoirTm_T: of course... :)03:50
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Tm_Tyes, but now it doesn't only crash all the time, I get some apps running too =)03:51
Tm_T...before they crash03:51
abattoirhehe03:51
Tm_TKate seemst to work pretty well03:51
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Tm_Tand Konsole is already in alpha03:51
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abattoirTm_T: you are running it in dapper, right?03:52
Tm_Tyes03:52
Tm_TQt: 4.2.0-snapshot-20060701 KDE: 3.9.02 (>= 20060717) Konsole: 2.0alpha03:52
abattoiroh, they already are using qt4.203:53
BluesKajHowdy all03:53
abattoirBluesKaj: hi :)03:53
Tm_Tabattoir: I run stuff inside KDE303:53
BluesKajhey abattoir, how's things ?03:53
Tm_Tabattoir: so it's only single apps that does crash, not whole environment ;)03:53
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abattoirBluesKaj: all's well :)03:54
BluesKajgood! :)03:54
abattoirTm_T: aah.. so technically not KDE4 :P03:54
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abattoirBluesKaj: i hope they are w/ you too :)03:54
Tm_Tabattoir: yup, otherwise I could not do anything ;)03:55
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abattoirTm_T: do you actually develop something(in qt4.x) or are you just 'testing' KDE4?03:55
BluesKajI'm fine, trying paste some synaptic update errors in pastebin but it's not responding very quickly today...it's not serious but it's a PITA03:56
abattoirnot that qt4.x requires you to run KDE403:56
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abattoirBluesKaj: tried some other service?03:56
Tm_Tabattoir: I test atm, will try developing as soon as I get myself to working condition :)03:56
BluesKajwhat other service isthere , abattoir ?03:57
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abattoirBluesKaj: you using pastebin.ca?03:57
BluesKajnope .com03:57
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abattoirBluesKaj: well, its closer home, :P so might work faster03:57
Pupenois it possible to compile linux-source-2.6.17_2.6.17-5.16 only for my architecture instead of for all of them ?03:57
BluesKajmaybe .ca  will work , ok03:57
abattoirPupeno: i had the impression that it'd only compile for you architecture... that being the point of compiling...03:58
Pupenoabattoir: nope, it generate packages for all the ubuntu-supported architectures.03:59
Tm_T=)03:59
abattoirPupeno: oh, i didnt know that...03:59
BluesKajok abattoir, yer right ...here are the errors , http://pastebin.ca/10509504:00
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abattoirBluesKaj: installing from an external repo?04:01
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jordan_kxdocker is shit !04:02
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abattoirjordan_: hehe... why'd you say that?04:02
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jordan_abattoir too many reason :)04:02
BluesKajyeah, I found some new repos cuz i screwed up my original sources list so found these that had several additions04:02
abattoirBluesKaj: i guess that explains it... try removing 'openoffice.org-help-en-us' package first04:03
abattoirjordan_: i use it, and find it to be good :)04:03
BluesKajok, will try that04:04
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Flosofthey04:04
abattoirjordan_: in fact i'd say among the docks i have used for KDE it is the best...04:04
Flosoftwhat do I need as packages to use NVIDIA04:04
Flosoftgraphics04:04
abattoirjordan_: you could however try things like ksmoothdock and a couple of superkaramba solutions04:04
FlosoftI changed xorg.conf and replaced all nv with nvidia04:05
jordan_abattoir I'm looking for something like this --> http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/MediaGuide/index.6.jpg04:05
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Flosoftand I installed nvidia-glx04:05
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Flosoftbut it doesn't seems to work04:05
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abattoirjordan_: well, kxdocker is like that...04:06
Tm_Tabattoir: I also will try to run/port KDE stuff to win3204:06
abattoirjordan_: it doesnt have tabs though04:06
abattoirTm_T: for KDE4?04:06
Tm_Tyes04:07
Tm_Tit's been failure this far04:07
h3sp4wnFlosoft: I alway use nvidia-xconfig (just run it with sudo and it sets up everything it needs) you may need linux-restricted-modules for your kernel version04:07
Tm_Tcouldn't get even Qt patched =)04:07
abattoirTm_T: because of dependency on X?04:07
jordan_abattoir no it in's. When I'm install him they have only one icon --> menu KDE and i can't add anything04:08
Tm_Tnah, because MS Windows doesn't have proper bash-equiv04:08
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Tm_Tnor commandlinetools04:08
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Flosoftlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is already the newest version.04:08
jordan_* no it isn't04:08
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abattoirTm_T: hmm, yes, dos hasnt been worked on since... hmm i really dont know this one..04:08
abattoirjordan_: well, you have to add icons..04:09
h3sp4wnFlosoft: why are you using 2.6.15-23-386 you should install security updates04:09
jordan_abattoir how ?04:09
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abattoirjordan_: rt. click on the sys. tray->Configure Kxdocker04:10
abattoirjordan_: which version do you have04:10
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usergentooHow could I find what my hardirve is doing it blinks exactly every 1min and 30 secs04:10
jordan_abattoir Configure KXdocker don't work04:10
abattoirif you have 1.0(0.40), then it might be the 'Configurator'04:10
jordan_abattoir I don't now, I'm use apt-get04:11
FlosoftLinux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jul 17 19:52:53 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:11
Flosoftah ... restricted modules is out of date?04:11
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Flosoftlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is already the newest version.04:12
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Flosoftwhat else do I need?04:12
jordan_abattoir so what's the best version ?04:12
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abattoirthe latest is 1.1.404:13
abattoirjordan_: anyways, 0.39 is good enough04:13
abattoirjordan_: do you see the dock?04:14
jordan_abattoir no, only one icon04:15
abattoirjordan_: and configure kxdocker doesnt bring up a window?04:15
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jordan_abattoir yes04:16
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jordan_abattoir yes, doesnt bring up a window04:16
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abattoirjordan_: any other options when you rt.click the dock... i seriously dont remember the options in 0.39, tbh04:17
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abattoir??04:17
jordan_abattoir where i found 0.39 version ?04:17
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abattoir!info kxdocker04:18
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB04:18
abattoirthat's 0.39^^^^04:18
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jordan_abattoir I'm serch www04:19
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Flosoftare the security updates down?04:20
Flosoft99% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)] 04:20
abattoirjordan_: also install kxdocker-data04:21
dr_willisit seems up for me04:21
Flosofthmm04:21
Flosofthere it times out :S04:21
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jordan_abattoir sudo apt-get install kxdocker-data ?04:22
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abattoirjordan_: yes04:22
dimsuzhi again :). and what if some package doesn't present in repository? For example I need cmake-2.4.2, but apt offers an old cmake-2.2.3 version04:23
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dimsuzwrite deb by myself? :)04:24
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Flosoftwhat other packages do I need for nvidia?04:24
Pupenodimsuz: I'd try to see if there's an edgy package that I would just recompile for dapper.04:25
BluesKajabattoir, do you have repos list that is stable and relatively error free?04:25
abattoirBluesKaj: i have edgy... but source-o-matic should help04:25
abattoir!source-o-matic04:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:26
dimsuzPupeno: don't understand what you mean (i'm a total newbie), but thanks! :)04:26
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Pupenodimsuz: if Kubuntu Dapper doesn't have cmake 2.4.2 because it is too new, then it is possible that in the next version of Kubuntu you'll have it. Since you are not likely going to just wait for it, then you could grab an unstable package and re-compile it for Dapper.04:27
Pupenodimsuz: I'd go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package on edgy, then download the sources and re-build.04:28
dimsuzPupeno: and how do I do that 'grab'? (Thanks for info!)04:28
acojloa good chm reader for kde?04:28
dimsuzacojlo: kchmviewer04:28
Pupenoacojlo: kchmviewer04:28
dimsuz:)04:28
dimsuzPupeno: thanks!04:29
acojlodo is read cyrilic?04:29
Pupenodimsuz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=cmake&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all , http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/cmake04:29
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dimsuzacojlo: yes :).04:30
Pupenodimsuz: at the bottom: Source Package: cmake, Download: [dsc]  [cmake_2.4.2.orig.tar.gz]  [cmake_2.4.2-1.diff.gz] 04:30
dimsuzacojlo: oh! error :) I don't know :)04:30
dimsuzacojlo: but it should04:30
dimsuzPupeno: is it ok to rename earlier downloaded official cmake to "-orig" one?04:31
Pupenodimsuz: download the last three files, put it in a directory and run: dpkg-source -x cmake_[whatever it is called] .dsc; cd cmake-[the newly generated] ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot04:31
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Pupenodimsuz: and if everything goes ok, you'll have the new packag.04:31
acojloacctualy, it even does not want to open cyrilic chm04:31
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jordan_abattoir right clilc menu dosen"t work04:32
Pupenodimsuz: I wouldn't do it.04:32
acojloI use some xChm but it is very slow04:32
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dimsuzPupeno: wow! great! And where should I put it? or just "apt-get install ./resulting-file"?04:32
Pupenoif you are missing something you'll need to install it.04:32
Pupenodimsuz: you'll get a .deb, dpkg -i blah.deb04:33
jordan_abattoir What also to install ?04:33
dimsuzPupeno: thanks again!04:33
abattoirjordan_: these are the only two packages really necessary04:33
Pupenodimsuz: you are welcome.04:33
abattoirjordan_: can you try executing kxdocker from a terminal, and see if you get an error when you try to open the configuration tool?04:34
jordan_abattoir how to open the configuration tool in terminal04:34
abattoirjordan_: no, open kxdocker from terminal... but the config tool normally... rt.click on the system tray..04:35
abattoirhowever look out for errors in the terminal04:35
jordan_I'm install ksdocker-configurator04:36
jordan_It's working04:36
abattoirjordan_: that package is in dapper?04:37
jordan_yes04:37
abattoir!info kxdocker-configurator04:38
ubotuPackage kxdocker-configurator does not exist in dapper04:38
abattoirweird04:38
jordan_I have you want to see ?04:38
abattoirjordan_: you found it in adept?04:39
jordan_kxdocker                 kxdocker-gbattery        kxdocker-gtrash04:39
jordan_kxdocker-arpmanager      kxdocker-gcpu            kxdocker-i18n04:39
jordan_kxdocker-bluetooth       kxdocker-gdate           kxdocker-mountmanager04:39
jordan_kxdocker-configurator    kxdocker-gipcontrack     kxdocker-networker04:39
jordan_and 20 or 30 another04:39
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abattoirjordan_: you mean the source packages in the official kxdocker site?04:40
jordan_abattoir I don't now but i have :)04:41
jordan_sources list i have from ubuntu.pl :P04:41
abattoirjordan_: i guess its from an external repo...04:41
abattoiroh, ok04:41
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jordan_abattoir how to add new icon ?04:42
jordan_in configuration is poor04:42
sophie_ll04:42
jordan_configuration is poor :)04:42
abattoirjordan_: open the configurator.. see under which tab you see the K menu icon... and add new icons there...04:42
abattoirjordan_: yes, i'd have to agree w/ you on that one :)04:42
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nignosalve a tutti04:43
abattoir!it04:44
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:44
nignosorry04:44
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jordan_in configurator i have 6 tabs but don't have Icon. Something is wrong I thing so04:45
Flosofthttp://rafb.net/paste/results/qKPjdm70.html04:45
Flosoftwhy isn't this working?04:45
jordan_!pl04:45
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:45
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jordan_abattoir in configurator i have 6 tabs but don't have Icon. Something is wrong I thing so04:46
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abattoirjordan_: hmmm, i dont remember the exact name(objects???), but see under which one you have the Kmenu... and add icons there04:47
abattoirthey should appear at the bottom04:47
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abattoirjordan_: ok, have to go now, if you dont like kxdocker, you can check out ksmoothdock... or more docks at kde-look.org and kde-apps.org04:48
jordan_How to remove all kxdocker-xxx ?:] 04:49
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osh_Hi. I've got a package that I can't remove for some reason. dpkg --force-all -r doesn't work either. Anyone who can help with this?04:50
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octanhi all04:51
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octananyone here using Xgl & compiz ?04:51
osh_octan: I'd like to but it appears that I have to choose between suspend and xgl/compiz and suspend is much more useful for me.04:52
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sophie_octan: tried it liked it for a while, was unstable and after you get over theype you remove it04:52
octanosh_, im using it.. i only woundring about 1 thing,04:52
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sophie_osh_: suspend or xgl not compatible with my system lol04:53
octanhow do i get diff wallpapers on the viewports?04:53
FlosoftI can't get nvidia to run :S04:53
Flosoftit worked before :S04:53
arepiemy wireless usb device didn't working, it able to scan the access point, but it failed to connect, when i "dmesg" i saw an error like "using an old driver", how to solve this problem04:53
grotheskarepie: Wich Hardware?04:54
arepiegrothesk:  wireless usb04:54
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arepiezyxel g-22004:54
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grotheskarepie: Using ndiswrapper?04:55
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arepienope, i just install this kubuntu04:55
osh_sophie_: how come?04:55
octansophie_, do you know how i can diff wallpaper on the diif viewports?04:55
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Dannilionyou stalking me Hobbsee?04:57
Agiosif by viewport you mean desktop, yes, you can do that04:57
HobbseeDannilion: nope04:57
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pierluigi_ciao04:57
arepiegrothesk: do you mind in private msg04:57
octanAgios yes desktop.. i see from gset-compiz its called viewports04:57
grotheskarepie: No.04:58
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arepieok04:58
arepieso, i should install ndiswrapper?04:58
octanAgios, how do i do it?04:58
arepiedownload from sourgeforge and install ? or there's other way using any application from kubuntu >04:59
grotheskarepie: query04:59
octansynaptic04:59
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Agiosoctan: system settings, desktop, background04:59
jon_hi people, my defoptions line in menu.lst is "# defoptions=vga=791 quiet splash" but vga=791 is not getting passed to the kernel, what should I do?04:59
robotgeekarepie: use adept05:00
Flosoftisn't Webmin in apt-get ?05:00
Agiosyou can set a background for any given desktop or for all desktops05:00
octanAgios i tryed that,, it only allows me to use 1 wallpaper for all desktops05:00
Agiosoctan: see the "Setting for desktop:" option05:01
octanwhere i used todo that i could select etc desktop 1 ,2 ,3 ++ but now its blank05:01
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octanAgios, it says,, alldesktop or else its blank :\05:02
osh_I've got a package that I can't remove. Any ideas? I get this error msg: ERROR: Module hsfserial does not exist in /proc/modules05:02
osh_when trying to remove it that is.05:02
Agioshow many desktops do you have ?05:02
AgiosI have 8 and it lists all 8 of them there.05:03
obf213!suspend05:03
ubotuI know nothing about suspend - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:03
octanAgios 405:03
octanAgios, are you runiing Xgl & compiz?05:03
obf213whats the difference between hibernate and suspend05:03
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Agiosoctan: I don't know what compiz is05:04
osh_obf213: suspend is to write memory to disk and shut down completly afaik. hibernate leaves stuff in memory and needs current (but much less so).05:04
Flosoftanyone? isn't webmin in the dapper repo?05:04
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obf213ok, but both leave the computer on?05:05
osh_obf213: not suspend.05:05
octanAgios, ok,,05:06
osh_hibernate makes the computer "sleep", just drawing some power to keep the memory intact.05:06
obf213ok, when i return from suspended i check my sysinfo and it said i had been up for 9hrs plus 4 more mns since last i checked05:06
PupenoFlosoft: I think webmin is unmantained on Debian and was dropped. It is very likely the same thing happened on Ubuntu.05:06
Flosofthmm05:06
osh_suspend writes everything to disk and shuts down completely.05:06
Flosoftis there any graphical interface for LVM ?05:06
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osh_Flosoft: yes, i think so.05:07
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Flosoftany tip?05:07
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osh_obf213: well, that might be because the computer doesn't know it's been down. it resumes from the memory written to disk, just as if it's never been down.05:08
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osh_Flosoft: i'm still thinking. i'll get it soon.05:08
obf213ok05:08
osh_Flosoft: evms05:09
osh_Flosoft: that's the one I was thinking about.05:09
Flosofthmm ... but that isn't LVM?05:10
osh_Flosoft: doesn't it use lvm?05:11
Flosoftno ... evm05:11
Flosoftenterprise volume management?05:11
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Flosoftisn't that something else?05:11
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osh_Flosoft: not sure. I always thought evms was an lvm frontend. more or less.05:12
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osh_Flosoft: it makes lvm2 referneces on it's page anyway.05:13
osh_Flosoft: http://evms.sourceforge.net/gui_screen/05:13
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osh_And I still need someone to help me to remove a package. It just won't go away no matter what I do.05:13
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sophie_osh_: what package05:15
osh_sophie_: conexant. something I installed to get the bloody modem working. not that it helped. :-(05:15
dr_willis!apt-get05:16
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:16
sophie_osh_: i see no package in repo name that05:16
osh_dr_willis: I know apt-get and dpkg. The thing is that it just wont deinstall.05:17
Flosoftdoes anyone know how to run evms-gui?05:17
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osh_dr_willis: ERROR: Module hsfserial does not exist in /proc/modules <- that's the error I get and the package remains.05:17
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osh_sophie_: I got it from www.linuxant.com or something.05:17
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dr_willisnow that is odd.. /proc/ is a dynamic filesystem..05:18
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dr_williscoud touch /proc/modules/hsfserial05:18
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dr_willisbut thats getting really really really weird05:18
osh_dr_willis: /proc/modules is a file05:19
osh_dr_willis: well, not really but you know what I mean.05:19
dr_willisyea - thats very weird that the package manager wold be looking in there05:20
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ricardohi everybody....05:21
ricardoi have a problem here....05:21
osh_dr_willis: it doesn't make sense to me either. and I can't force it either. bloody annoying.05:21
osh_ricardo: welcome to the club. :-/05:22
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ricardomy pcmcia wireless card (DLINK) works outta the box with kernel 2.6.15-23-386....but when I update the kernel or use the 686 version it stops being recognised....05:22
ricardoany ideas??05:22
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osh_ricardo: have a look at what modules are being loaded. "lsmod". Perhaps it's that simple?05:24
h3sp4wnricardo: Make sure you have restricted enabled for dapper-security05:24
ricardoosh_: ok ill check that (have to reboot)...what modules should I look for...and what do i do if they are not loaded?05:26
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ricardoh3sp4wn: i think i have....but ill check that too...05:26
themadscotsmanwat's the deal with edy knot05:27
h3sp4wnricardo: I think if its not working with the newer kernel you don't have linux restricted modules for that kernel version (05:27
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osh_ricardo: I have no idea. Make a list and compare them. If one is loaded where it works but not where it not works then try a "modprobe name_of_the_module"05:28
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ricardoosh_: ok thx....ill do that....05:28
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osh_ricardo: good luck05:28
tuxirc.red.latina.org05:28
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ricardoh3sp4wn: you are right...i have no restricted dapper-security whatsoever.....could you give me the address for that repositorie?05:30
BluesKaj!Repostories05:30
ubotuI know nothing about Repostories - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:30
BluesKaj!sources list05:30
ubotuI know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:30
h3sp4wnricardo: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add restricted after main and it will work fine05:31
BluesKajthat factoid page sucks05:31
ricardoh3sp4wn: thanks!!05:31
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pete_need some help here, with getting my dvd to play in kubuntu, when i put the disk in the drive it flashes the DVD icon on the desktop then it goes off. when i try to play the dvd movie in kaffeine i get an error "the source cannot be read", maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or dvd does not contain any data05:32
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pete_its not under the list in mount05:33
pete_anyone know what could be the problem05:34
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pete_how do i find out what the name is of the drives so i can mount them ?05:35
pete_because  they are not under my mount list05:35
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pete_dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)05:35
pete_proc on /proc type proc (rw)05:35
pete_/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)05:35
pete_varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)05:35
pete_varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)05:36
pete_procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)05:36
pete_udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)05:36
pete_devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)05:36
pete_devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)05:36
pete_lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)05:36
pete_pete@box:~$05:36
pete_see there is no drives :/05:36
osh_!tell pete_ about pastebin05:36
jordan_what conf edit for faster start linux ?05:36
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pete_osh_: do you know how to find out the name of my cdrom and dvd if they are not in that list05:37
osh_pete_: try "dmesg". it's probably /dev/hdc05:37
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aurelhey05:38
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osh_Does this make sense to any of you? http://pastebin.ca/10530905:39
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HawkwindAnyone know how to fix this error:  http://pastebin.ulteo.us/1405:41
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LynoureHawkwind: You'll get more answers, often, if you mention roughly what the thing is related to, but I'll take a look anyway, this time05:48
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HawkwindLynoure: The pastebin has all the info05:48
HawkwindIt's an error on kdelibs-data.  I can't get it to upgrade or install no matter what I try05:48
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jim__help! I just looked at my  installed programs and it shows that Opera is installed, however I cannot find a way to open the browser it does not show up in kde05:49
LynoureHawkwind: By a quick look looks like an error in the package, either kdelibs-data or ktorrent. If you do not use ktorrent, you can prolly work around it by removing that and possibly installing it back afterwards05:49
HawkwindLynoure: I do happen to use ktorrent, however, I can't remove ktorrent due to the same error05:50
grotheskjim__: Did you start it from konsole?05:50
jim__no how do you do that05:50
Hawkwindjim__: Type: opera05:51
grotheskOpen up a konsole and type 'opera' in it.05:51
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LynoureHawkwind: I'm not sure if --force-yes  would help. Probably not.05:51
uniqHawkwind: what is the error did you pastebin it?05:51
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: Did you use checkinstall to install ktorrent ?05:52
Hawkwinduniq: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/1405:52
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rolandothe big question is05:52
uniqHawkwind: checking..05:52
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Umm no. I wouldn't use checkinstall on my worst enemies machine :P05:52
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rolandowhy is so complicated to manage repositories??05:52
rolandoi have05:52
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Everything comes straight from Ubuntu repos05:52
rolandoeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse05:53
rolandodeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse05:53
rolandobut when i do sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs nothing happens05:53
uniqHawkwind: try this in konsole: 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1_all.deb'05:53
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rolandoive read so many things about editing the file sources.list05:54
Hawkwinduniq: Once again you have all the answers.  Many thanks :)05:54
rolandobut that is not very clear05:54
rolandoim supposed to uncomment the lines there05:54
rolandohow can i find a certain package in a certain repositorie?05:55
rolandofor example i want amarok 1.405:55
h3sp4wn!info blah05:55
Hawkwindrolando: apt-cache policy <app>05:55
ubotuPackage blah does not exist in dapper05:55
Emessark opened a whole lotta windows and they wont close when i select close all,is ther a way to kill all teh ark processes?05:56
rolandoHawkwind: and where can i get a repository with amarok 1.4?05:56
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rolandorepositories where easier with mandriva05:56
ccc_rolando: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php05:56
ccc_for amarok 1.4.105:56
rolandoccc_: i read that already05:56
rolandoccc_: but didnt really work05:57
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h3sp4wnEmess: ps aux | grep ark | cut -d: -f1 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill (something like that would probably work)05:57
rolandoill try again05:57
uniqrolando: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:57
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twisted2Emess: try "killall ark" from konsole, thats shorter ;)05:57
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ccc_rolando: just add the gpg-key as instructed, then add the apt source mentioned at the bottom in your sources.list05:57
ubuntuwat repos do u use for edgy05:58
Emessi tried that before, and i didnt work becaus ei spelled ark wrong, thanks lol05:58
Emessis there a way to install uicon packs when all you have are the icon pngs?05:58
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ccc_rolando: and just ask if you don't understand how to do either part :)05:59
ubuntui say chaps wat repos do u use for ubuntu edgy05:59
uniqubuntu: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted06:00
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ubuntuty06:00
MilhousePunkRockRe everyone!06:00
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uniqhi milhousepunkrock.06:00
MilhousePunkRockHi uniq06:01
MilhousePunkRockHow can I possibly get rid of the CD-ROM icon on my desktop?06:01
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uniqMilhousePunkRock: right click on the desktop -> behaviour -> icons (tab) uncheck the ones you want to remove.06:02
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uniq.. make that behaviour -> device icons (tab)06:03
Kr4t05Why is it I try to copy data from a personal backup, and it takes forever?06:03
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LynoureKr4t05: Hard to tell without knowing more about your personal backup. Where is it? What kind of medium? Tapes can be way slow, there can be issues with connection to the remote server etc.06:04
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Raitohow do I not use xgl? I need to not use it to run wine. (I don't know if I have it, is it default there on ubuntu or kubuntu?)06:06
BlissexKr4t05: we are sorry, but out clairvoyant and telepathic advisors are all busy on other lines... :-)06:06
sophie_Raito: xgl is not installed bt default06:07
MilhousePunkRockuniq: Or rather: How can I have it appear only when I CD is in the drive? If that is possible...06:07
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uniqMilhousePunkRock: same place.06:08
MilhousePunkRockuniq: And that would be "mounted CD/DVD/xyzD" only than?06:08
uniqMilhousePunkRock: you get the choices mounted and unmounted deviced. yes.06:08
uniqcorrect.06:08
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rolandogood amarok worked fine at last thanx06:15
rolandoany1 with kubuntu and ipod?06:15
MilhousePunkRockThat did not really work... But I deleted it now...06:15
ricardoh3sp4wn: thanks!!! im using the new kernel!06:15
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twisted2rolando: yeah, me06:16
rolandotwisted2: do you use amarok with ur ipod?06:16
twisted2rolando: i do ;)06:17
rolandogood, how do you have to configure it?06:17
twisted2rolando: are you on dapper? it worked right out of the box for me06:17
ninhertatilcan cause any problem using a mac keyboard with a power pc box ?06:18
rolandoMedia Device: failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /media/sda3: Sistema de solo lectura06:18
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rolandothats the error message i get when trying to connect06:18
rolandoonly read system06:19
rolandotwisted2: i just installed the version in the kubuntu download site06:19
twisted2rolando: that's 1.4.1, right? i had that error once, when i didn't "safely removed" the ipod and reconnected it06:20
rolandotwisted2:  right06:20
klerfaytdesktop freezed first time yesterday, but I forgot to cp ~/.xsessionerrors before ctrl_alt_backspace - are there some more logs that could have saved error messages?06:20
rolandotwisted2: then i shuold remove it safely and everything should work fine?06:20
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twisted2rolando: try it, for me only a restart of kde worked, then ;)06:21
rolandotwisted2:06:22
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rolandotwisted2: yes because i tried once again the same error06:23
rolandoill try that thenx06:23
rolandothanx06:23
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twisted2rolando: i'm afraid i cant help you.. for it just works, sorry ;)06:25
Jack12hi whats wrong if i get (from a protected) dvd with totem there is no plugin to handle the dvd?06:26
Jack12it should actually as i followed the wiki how to make them playable06:27
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klerfaytWhat could be wrong here? http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/273/snapshot3hj3.png06:28
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MilhousePunkRockDoes anyone know a set of sounds with a female voice saying stuff like "initiating shutdown sequence" in a slightly spacy manner?06:31
chenlevyHi, all06:32
chenlevyI am here to update you about my recent konqueror wows06:33
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chenlevyI found out that I had a memory error (1 bit in ~883.1MB and 1 bit in ~964.8MB(06:34
chenlevySo the KDE developers are in the clear.06:34
chenlevyThank you everybody for your help resolving this problem.06:34
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ricardodoes enybody know how to multi rename directories names?06:36
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chenlevySpecial thanks for fritsch for his help.06:37
sophie_ricardo: can you give me an exemple06:37
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jordan_how to change Ip and MAC in terminal ?06:38
sophie_jordan_: Why would you change MAC (spoofing?)06:38
jordan_something like that :)06:39
sophie_!ubotu ifconfig06:39
ubotuI know nothing about ifconfig - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:39
ricardosophie_: i have a tree plenty of dirs and i want to change caps for instance...or replace certain characters...06:39
MilhousePunkRockricardo: Looks like someone stole some music from the web, huh? ;-)06:39
sophie_ricardo: do you want to work from the command line or GUI: cli have a look at rename and GUI krename has lots of plugins06:40
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jordan_I can't found  ifconfing06:41
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oellinashello06:41
oellinasdoes anybody know hoew to integrate kmplayer into firefox?06:41
sophie_jordan_: I am 100% sure ufconfig is installed it is command line06:41
ricardoMilhousePunkRock: i swear ...it is just work directories (i dont care renaming music dirs ;op)06:42
ricardosophie_: thanks..ill try that!06:42
sophie_oellinas: sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in06:42
MilhousePunkRockricardo: As if I would care anyway, but I know that music from the web often times comes with weird filenaming schemes... ;-)06:42
oellinasnot mplayer, kmplayer. i already have mplayer plugin but it doesnt support many kind of streaming.06:43
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sophie_krename can rename mp3's using tag information06:43
oellinaskmplayer use also xine plugin06:43
oellinas*xine engine06:43
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sophie_oellinas: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats you need to install codecs06:44
oellinasthanks06:45
oellinasseems i already have those plugins and with xine everything work. is mplayer that doesnt06:46
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sophie_is mplayer that does not what06:48
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MilhousePunkRockDoes anyone know a place to download sound schemes other than kde-look.org?06:49
bunny_jo06:50
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bunny_yo06:50
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oellinashave plugins for mms streaming06:50
ricardosophie_: krename doesnt allow to rename directories...just files...06:51
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alex__hello everybody06:54
MilhousePunkRockOMG! Amarok can display the lyrics? Holy moly...06:54
alex__surprising isn it?06:55
oellinasjust if u install the plugin for it06:55
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alex__it is great in listening to the webradio!!06:55
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MilhousePunkRockoellinas: I didn't use Amarok much before, as I don't listen to music much on the PC anyway... But I was just clicking through here, and that one tab said "fetching text" and bang, there it is...06:56
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ricardosophie_: krename doesnt allow to rename directories...just files...any other ideas?06:57
sophie_ricardo: im looking into it I was sure it did06:58
MilhousePunkRockNow I only need that /me is listening to: -thingy06:58
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ricardosophie_: ok thanx!06:59
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Flosofthey06:59
Flosoftis there a way to have the HDDs parked (stopped) or something when they are not used?07:00
MilhousePunkRockYes, Flosoft... Laptop-Mode-Tools is what you want...07:00
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Flosoftcool ... what is the dapper package name?07:00
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MilhousePunkRockBut it's not recommended for Desktop HDDs, they are not designed to be stopped and restarted often...07:01
MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: One second...07:01
Flosoftroot@ubuntu:/etc/webmin# apt-cache search laptop-mode07:01
Flosoftlaptop-mode-tools - Userland scripts to control "laptop mode"07:01
Flosoftlaptop-mode - laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops07:01
MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: Great, you found it faster than I could start adept... I guess you need both of these...07:02
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Flosofthehe ok07:02
Flosoftis it configurable via a GUI?07:02
Flosoftow ... it is installed apparantly07:03
arepieanybody know how to make ?07:03
arepieanybody know how to "make" ?07:03
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MilhousePunkRockIt's got a configuration file with pretty good comments... Don't think there is a GUI though... Flosoft07:03
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sophie_ricardo: if you use the add file button look add the bottom left there is an option to add only directory names07:03
MilhousePunkRockarepie: If you don't know it, you better don't... :-)07:03
Flosoftor how do I set it up?07:04
arepieim trying to install wireless zd1211 driver07:04
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MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: apt-get did that for you...07:04
sophie_ricardo: still there07:04
arepieMilhousePunkRock: wlan0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !07:04
Flosoftwell ... where can I configure after how many minutes it parks the hdds etc?07:04
MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: You need to locate the config-file now in which you can alter those settings...07:05
Flosoftok07:05
MilhousePunkRockarepie: That is beyond my knowledge... h3sp4wn, are you there?07:05
ricardosophie:yes...ill try that...thx!07:05
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ricardosophie_: i was using krename from krusader.....ill try as you tell me...07:06
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ricardosophie_: i think thats exactly what i wanted.....thank you very much...!07:07
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Flosoftis it enabled by default?07:10
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Flosoftor where can I check if it is running?07:10
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MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: There is a pretty good readme, let me look it up07:12
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tuxirc.undernet.org07:13
tuxmexxico07:13
Hawkwindtux: Stop spamming please :P07:13
tuxMexico07:13
arepie!make07:13
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:13
SnakeHey guys, how intrested would this room be in purchasing (k)ubuntu case badges? I'm trying to see if anyone would want any, they would likely be 3 badges for $607:13
HawkwindBadges ?07:14
MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/laptop_mode/index.html07:14
SnakeHawkwind: you know like the things that say "HP" or whatever, or "Intel Inside", they are bubbly, and will have the (k)ubuntu logo07:14
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tux_tux07:14
MilhousePunkRockSnake: What about shipping to Europe?07:15
HawkwindSnake: You have a picture of one ?07:15
SnakeHawkwind: one second07:15
FlosoftMilhousePunkRock: so it is enabled by default?07:15
SnakeMilhousePunkRock: I dont know if id be able to do that :-/07:15
SnakeHawkwind: http://www.3dgameman.com/IMAGES/images_03/3dgameman_case_badge_06.jpg is an example07:15
HawkwindSnake: Ah, I wanted to see the actual Kubuntu logo07:15
SnakeHawkwind: I havnt made any yet, im just seeing if theres any intrest07:16
MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: I am not sure... Browse through the side, you will find all the info you need there... I found everything I needed there too...07:16
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MilhousePunkRockFlosoft: "Installing them is all you need to do to get laptop mode up and running"07:18
SnakeHawkwind: I would just use the gears in it, btw07:18
MilhousePunkRockIs that circle with the three little circles on it supposed to be a gear?07:19
SnakeIn the kubuntu logo, yes07:19
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SnakeKDE's logo is gears, so they tried to incorperate that into the Ubuntu logo07:20
MilhousePunkRockTook me months to find out that the Fx icon is a Fox hugging the world... o_O07:20
SnakeLOL07:20
rr72MilhousePunkRock~ ever look at fedex and see somin?07:20
Snakerr72: I have!07:21
Snake:)07:21
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rr72somoene told me about it and now i always see it07:21
rr72=>07:21
MilhousePunkRockSnake: If you ever make them, try to figure out how you can get them over the big pond... Wouldn't they fit into a letter?07:21
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SnakeMilhousePunkRock: im sure they could, I just dont know anything about international letters and whatnot07:22
Snake:-)07:22
rr72snake if u find a site about that kind of stuff i would be VERY interested07:22
MilhousePunkRockrr72: fedex as in Federal Express? Huh?07:22
rr72i don't even know what to look  under for google07:22
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rr72yeah their logo look at it carefully07:23
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MilhousePunkRockYou call that a logo, rr72? It's just the name, or not?07:24
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rr72snake u think it was intentinal? kinda spooky if it wasnt07:24
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rr72it perfectly fits07:24
rr72freaks me out sometimes07:24
rr72how some things just fits07:24
arepieomg installing driver for my wireless usb is really a big thing..07:24
Snakelol07:24
rr72*fit07:25
MilhousePunkRockrr72: The --> made from the E and the x?07:25
rr72WOW u got it07:25
SnakeMilhousePunkRock: Could I just send a letter to you like I would to someone in the US?07:25
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rr72MilhousePunkRock~ where r u?07:25
SnakeMilhousePunkRock: or would I need some kind of special postage or something you think?07:25
MilhousePunkRockSnake: I guess so, it's just a little more expensive... How much is a normal inside US letter?07:26
rr72idc07:26
SnakeI think 37 cents07:26
rr72it keeps changing07:26
rr72u always need 2C stamps incase they raise it07:26
SnakeHeh07:26
rr72MilhousePunkRock~ where r u?07:26
MilhousePunkRocklol that's cheap... It'll be like 2 dollars for a letter to Europe I guess...07:26
MilhousePunkRockrr72: Germany07:26
SnakeHmmm..07:26
rr72oh idk07:26
rr72hawaii is US so still the same amount07:27
rr72and alaska07:27
rr72crazy so far yet so close07:27
jordan_How to see my mac - comand in terminal ?07:27
rr72off to WoW07:27
MilhousePunkRockrr72: The internet, the global village... WoW? Are you a girl?07:27
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rr72hell no07:28
rr72global village?07:28
SnakeWhats wrong with WoW??07:28
SnakeIts just addicting..07:28
MilhousePunkRockIt's a game for girls...07:28
jordan_How to see my mac - comand in terminal ?07:28
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SnakeMilhousePunkRock: Technically so is every other game out there07:29
rr72stupid germans07:29
rr72;)07:29
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