[12:06] <kwwii> hehe, actually I only use adobe on mac
[12:06] <kwwii> and to be honest, I used less than legal software before I made money with it
[12:06] <kwwii> but once I made money with it, I knew I should pay for it
[12:07] <kwwii> I mean, I am getting something out of it
[12:07] <kwwii> money
[12:07] <kwwii> and I do not need to update to the latest version like most people think
[12:07] <kwwii> to be honest, the printing world is 2-3 versions behind everyone else
[12:08] <kwwii> anyway, I await the day that I use inkscape and never use AI, someday soon it will happen
[12:08] <kwwii> I use inkscape more and more
[12:09] <mhb> that's great
[12:10] <kwwii> the newest inkscape is pretty cool though
[12:10] <kwwii> the biggest thing that I hate is not being able to offset a path
[12:10] <kwwii> I mean, you can do it, but the results suck
[12:14] <mhb> Illustrator can spit out valid SVGs?
[12:15] <mhb> that can be viewed in some SVG viewer without errors?
[12:18] <kwwii> yepp, illustrator can spit out valid svgs
[12:19] <kwwii> anything that AI can make as SVG, batik can display
[12:19] <kwwii> since years
[12:19] <kwwii> I mean, they do expand the SVG set with their stuff
[12:19] <kwwii> but it does work
[12:20] <kwwii> and even if it is bullshit, the real features that AI has above any other editor are still there
[12:22] <mhb> kwwii: if they will hire you as a "community consultant", please tell them about the Linux version :o)
[12:23] <kwwii> who...Adobe? ...hire me? hehehe, I wish
[12:24] <kwwii> :p
[12:24] <mhb> :o)
[12:28] <kwwii> time for sleep
[12:28] <kwwii> see you all tomorrow
[12:28] <mhb> ok
[12:28] <mhb> goodnight
[12:28] <kwwii> night
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[12:32] <Viper550> Are there any source SVGs of the new mockups?
[12:33] <kwwii> Viper550: which ones? the kubuntu ones?
[12:33] <kwwii> they are all SVGs
[12:33] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/SetSample00
[12:34] <kwwii> hehe, no idea
[12:34] <Viper550> And I meant, the actual SVG images, not the contact sheets
[12:34] <kwwii> guess not
[12:34] <Viper550> Wondering why?
[12:34] <kwwii> no idea
[12:34] <Viper550> I'm going to try and establish a similar look for some of Tropic's artwork, but with a twist
[12:34] <kwwii> ask the author
[12:35] <kwwii> I was actually already going to sleep...see you tomorrow
[12:35] <kwwii> late here
[12:35] <Viper550> Okay, I live in EST if you wonder
[12:36] <kwwii> hehe, CET here
[12:37] <Viper550> night
[12:37] <kwwii> in a week or so I will be in America though
[12:37] <kwwii> going home on vacation
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[12:38] <kwwii> ok, night all
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[12:43] <Viper550> I'm going to start a page for actual Kubuntu proposals, not just Ideas like we have now
[12:45] <mhb> Viper550: is there a reason why?
[12:45] <mhb> Viper550: ideas kinda equals proposals
[12:45] <mhb> +-
[12:45] <Viper550> It wasn't actually under /EdgyProposals
[12:52] <Viper550> It was actually a brainstorm page of sorts...
[12:53] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/KubuntuProposals
[12:54] <mhb> well, I think you should leave that to Ken
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[03:47] <Viper550> Hello!
[07:00] <Gareth^> goodbye!
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[05:26] <Viper550> Hello everyone!
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[05:36] <Viper550> Is anyone here?
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[05:47] <troy_s> yes
[05:47] <troy_s> sort of
[05:49] <Viper550> I was looking at that Peace theme just right now
[05:50] <Viper550> It's a bit different...
[05:52] <troy_s> ?
[05:53] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Peace
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[09:30] <fschoep> troy_s: ping