=== asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] Can somebody please approve the two Outstanding syncs on http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/syncs/? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] Fujitsu: confirmed openntpd [12:41] Thanks. [12:47] Fujitsu: and gnumail looks fine too, confirmed [12:47] Thanks! [12:47] np :) [01:01] In case there are lurkers in here, the merging session in #ubuntu-motu-school will begin very shortly. [01:02] ouch totally forgot about it === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] crimsun is starting the tutorial on merging/syncing at #ubuntu-motu-school if any hopefuls are interested. === pirast [n=martin@p508B087B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] Heya gang [01:28] hi bddebian [01:28] Hi bddebian. [01:28] hi bddebian :) [01:28] Hello carthik_home, Fujitsu, slomo_ :-) [01:31] slomo_: I need the list of multimedia packages I can touch again? [01:31] avidemux [01:31] OK [01:31] gtranscode [01:32] transcode if you want to fight with broken configure :) [01:32] Heh [01:32] lame [01:32] qdvdauthor === Hikaru79 [n=adrian@d57-3-74.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] I know I'm lame, sorry :'-( [01:33] i meant the package 'lame' :P [01:33] hi bddebian [01:33] Heya Toadstool [01:33] slomo_: Oh :-) [01:33] you're not lame... look at my galago-sharp uploads and you know what lame is :P [01:33] Bah [01:34] heh === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:40] grah, I wrote "point of vue" instead of "point of view"... :p [01:40] time to go to bed [01:40] cya === Toadstool is now known as ToadZzZztool [01:42] Gnight ToadZzZztool [01:47] shawarma: Alive? [01:51] gn8 everybody [01:58] Later slomo_ === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-144-137-231-113.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_home is now known as carthik === carthik_ [n=carthik@user-142h0oa.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] bye === kmilo [n=kmilo@200-91-244-21-host.ifx.net.co] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] ajmitch: ping [02:58] pong [02:58] sortof [02:58] ajmitch: I found a decent solution for the group issue I was telling you about if you are interested [02:58] definitely [02:59] I put the groups in to LDAP (admin, video, audio, cdrom, plugdev, etc) [02:59] that works fine [02:59] the only issue is that the network isn't up when udev assigns permissions to the devices it creates [03:00] I had to edit the permissions config so that the groups are specified by number instead of name [03:00] once you do that things work as expected [03:01] I basically recreated the same groups that are in the default group file that ships with ubuntu [03:01] so if it was group X in /etc/group it is the same gid in ldap [03:03] Anyone else having problems with ftp.debian.org? [03:03] nope...maybe it got compromised [03:08] anyone running exim had problems with /dev/random running out of bytes? [03:14] grrr....must smack someone === bddebian runs [03:18] FunnyLookinHat: ping === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] hmmm....i ran out of disk space === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU [03:33] zul: fun [03:33] to who do I send dapper 3.5.4 errors? [03:33] 3.5.4 what? === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] kde [03:37] you might want to talk to people in #kubuntu-devel otherwise open a bug in launchapd [03:40] kk, ty [03:43] Anyone see any reason for having a seperate source package for attal themes? [03:43] If not, what would I do about adding a second binary to the attal package and removing the attal-themes-source source package? === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sophie^ [n=sophie@202.57.93.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] bddebian: they are distributed seperately by upstream, why do you want to have one source package? [03:58] lfittl: Not anymore afaict. Though, they are seperate branches in CVS, the build system expects themes.pro to be there now [03:59] on which version are you working? [03:59] 0.10.1 [04:00] and which launchpad bug was that again? (sry for asking all that, but as I prepared the first updated packages, I am just interested in it ;)) [04:01] lfittl: Oh, cool, hang on [04:01] lfittl: Bug #2596 [04:01] Malone bug 2596 in attal "Attal in Ubuntu is almost not playable, 4 new attal versions (0.9.3, 0.9.4, 0.10, 0.10.1) released, please update" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2596 [04:01] Old one :-) [04:02] I know, originally I wanted to update them for dapper, but I didn't found time before UVF to get them uploaded [04:03] I still have them here (the link in the bug report is not working anymore..), and they built successfully for me (although that was 0.10) [04:03] Well I had 0.10 building for Dapper but wouldn't build in Edgy so I have been playing with the latest CVS stuff [04:03] ah, I see [04:04] didn't check again for edgy [04:04] Actually I think I used your packaging originally :-) [04:04] :) [04:04] So, please have at it .. ;-) [04:04] do you know if the debian maintainer is still working on it? [04:05] I have no problems with you updating these packages, I just wonder if it is good to diverge from debian with the source packages [04:06] I e-mailed him a month or more ago showing him your work plus a couple of little tweaks I made for 0.10 and have never heard anything back. [04:06] Yeah, I hate diverging too but this thing is waay old and still fairly actively maintained upstream [04:07] lfittl: Do you do a lot of game packages? [04:08] bddebian: some, I am actually interested in game development, and as soon as i am a MOTU I plan to help the MOTU Games team out ;) [04:08] Ah cool. You don't happen to know what happened to persia/Emmet do you? [04:09] bddebian: the only game package I maintain atm. is anagramarama [04:09] no idea, sry [04:09] NP [04:10] bddebian: do you have any interest in taking the package over in debian? (might be the best solution) [04:13] Hmm, not much but I could probably get a sponsered upload [04:15] as I am trying to get involved into debian at the moment, I would be interested in adopting it === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] bddebian: would it be a problem for you if I would take your package (not now, maybe sometime next week, so you could upload it to ubuntu before that), mention your work in the changelog and continue maintaining it in debian? [04:18] lfittl: Well I don't exactly have one yet because of the new build system :-( [04:18] slomo_: You awake? [04:19] Frick I hate weekends [04:19] shawarma: How about you? [04:20] bddebian: hmm, what problems are there, except from the Makefile requiring the themes? [04:20] Well that's where I stopped. [04:21] and upstream has the makefile that needs the themes in the binary branch, and the themes in another cvs branch? [04:21] Aye, afaict [04:21] But I'm kind of dense :-) [04:22] strange, did they mention that in the changelog? [04:24] ls [04:26] bddebian: as its 4:24 in the morning here, i need to get some sleep, i would suggest that we talk about this sometime next week, I will ping you then, and we will see, k? :) [04:26] lfittl: Sort of. There really is no changelog [04:26] lfittl: No problem, thanks [04:26] gn8 everybody :) [04:26] Gnight === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] how do you get a list of currently installed packages? [04:38] dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends} [04:38] grr [04:38] do i need to build dep on python-all to get that? i thought python-all-dev would be ok [04:40] oh crap dh_python isn't getting called [04:40] wtf === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] ryanakca: dpkg -l [04:47] oh i have debhelper after distutils === carthik is now known as carthik_away [04:48] crimsun: just the packages... so that if edgy install messes up, I can revert to current system by going "sudo aptitude install `cat installedpackageslist`" [04:48] there are a few ways [04:49] you can use dpkg -l |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $2 }' [04:51] grr [04:51] now it only calls dh_python for willowng-config [04:52] anyone have an example of a python app using cdbs that is split into two packages? [04:53] src:quodlibet [04:53] crimsun: ty, I'm off to bed :) [04:53] ryanakca: cya [04:54] Amaranth: note that you have to call dh_python(1) per-binary [04:55] quodlibet's debian/rules, for instance, does this in binary-install/foo:: overrides [04:55] oh quodlibet handles the python policy stuff on it's own [04:55] yeah [05:04] Ack, I wish I knew C++ better === node` [n=icmp_@adsl-220-236-183.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] start-stop-daemon: user `willowng' not found [05:12] HULK SMASH [05:12] hehe === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-144-137-231-113.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] oh bleh, missing a file in my debian/ dir [05:22] W: willowng: maintainer-script-needs-depends-on-adduser postinst <--whoops === bmonty is now known as bmonty_away === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] damnit [05:26] i give up, will unfuck this POS tomorrow [05:26] hey Amaranth [05:27] hi [05:27] get any fedex notification yet? [05:27] no? [05:27] I got one, so yours can't be far off [05:27] :/ [05:27] or they may not send an email & the cheque just shows up [05:28] which has often been the case, apparantly [05:28] yeah [05:28] heh get a real job :) [05:28] :P [05:28] well hey maybe i'll have a check when i get home [05:28] haven't been there in a week [05:29] heh [05:30] apart from the broken packaging, how's your project going? :) [05:31] not bad [05:31] waiting on ogra to give me the magic code to make the proxy mandatory (which i think is waiting on having a working package) [05:32] after that all i really need to have a usable setup for a desktop or ltsp system (i think) is support for changing the error pages [05:32] great [05:32] yeah [05:32] then i just need a web frontend... === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] how's that going with pam & sudo? === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] haven't started [05:37] ok [05:37] bmonty reminded me that I need to fix up the ldap migration scripts === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50803C7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] Holy crap, axiom does actually build... [06:41] Gnight folks [06:41] Good night, bddebian [06:41] Gnight tritium === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal_bday === mitsuhiko [n=blackb1r@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=ash211@user-1121k42.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=nblackb1@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sophie^ [n=sophie@202.57.93.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium is now known as tritium_away === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sophie^ [n=sophie@202.57.93.92] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:14] hi all === tritium_away is now known as tritium [07:15] heya Hobbsee === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan is now known as Yagisan-aWay === Yagisan-aWay is Away, Reason: ( "Real life :(" ) | Since: ( Saturday, July 29, 2006. 13:32:46 ) Xlack v2.1 [08:54] bad yagisan [08:55] turn off your away scripts now === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] hi Hobbsee, ajmitch [09:06] hi Mithrandir === Hobbsee attacks Mithrandir with a raw trout for breaking dhcp. [09:06] huh? I've broken dhcp? [09:07] Mithrandir: someone did, and you're a good target. :P [09:07] haha, but I've only uploaded casper lately. So unless it's on the live cd, I'm innocent. :-) [09:07] Mithrandir: are you ever innocent? :P === Mithrandir bats his eyelashes at Hobbsee === Hobbsee knows you've done something. *narrows eyes* [09:07] what do I look like? [09:08] Mithrandir: very scary. [09:08] haha [09:08] Mithrandir: You are incapable of looking innocent. [09:09] StevenK: that's not too important as long as I'm able to _be_ innocent [09:10] Mithrandir: ah yes, but are you incapable of that too? [09:10] Depends who you ask, I suspect. [09:10] Hobbsee: of course! :-) [09:10] Mithrandir: hmmm...well.... [09:11] Mithrandir: i'd have to ask simira or someone that, seeing as i dont really know you well enough to make such a call. [09:13] yeah, I guess [09:13] and I should probably jump offline since I'm on dialup. :-/ [09:13] hi Mithrandir [09:15] Mithrandir: :( why dialup? === Hobbsee blames ajmitch [09:16] Hobbsee: am at Karianne's place in Molde. Her parents were supposed to have DSL a few weeks ago, but there was a strike and then there's a backlog [09:16] unfortunate [09:16] Mithrandir: ahhh...oh dear. you two are married yet, or is that soon? [09:21] ceremony starts in 172 hours. :-) [09:21] (as in, next Saturday at 1030 UTC) [09:21] soon enough :) [09:21] since we can't be there, congratulatoins in advance [09:22] Mithrandir: nice :) [09:22] I'm going to post lots'a photos all over the intarweb, at leasst. [09:22] Mithrandir: yay :) [09:22] s/leasst/least/ === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] Mithrandir: congrats! [09:23] jsgotangco: thanks :-) [09:24] Mithrandir: looks like a very nice place to get married :() [09:24] s/(// [09:25] Hobbsee: yeah, it's beautiful up here. [09:25] just hoping for nice weather.. it's not the most stable weather here, usually. [09:25] Mithrandir: think we can have a dev conference up there sometim? that'd be cool. [09:26] Mithrandir: ahh... [09:26] Hobbsee: I wouldn't complain. :-) [09:26] Mithrandir: Congratulations [09:27] Mithrandir: hehe. poke the appropriate people? :P === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] Hobbsee: getting here is a bit of work and .no isn't the cheapest of places so people are going to complain. It'd be fun, though. [09:28] Mithrandir: ah okay... [09:36] Mithrandir congrats man ;) === imbrandon_ is late on the convo ... [09:38] thanks, thanks. Now I'll go offline, for real. [09:38] see you guys around. [09:39] c ya [09:39] bye Mithrandir [09:40] bye Mithrandir === jacks0n [n=jack--0@ppp111-122.lns2.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jacks0n [n=jack--0@ppp111-122.lns2.bne3.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ is now known as imbrandon === Hobbsee thumps StevenK [10:30] StevenK: i think you did screw my wrist up. thanks. [10:30] heh [10:30] What did you two get up to? [10:30] :) [10:30] TheMuso: he was tickling me! [10:30] Well maybe you had it coming. :) [10:30] TheMuso: and trying to stop me tickling him back. [10:30] TheMuso: which was fine till he grabbed my wrist :( [10:30] TheMuso: heh === Yagisan-aWay is back ( Away 1 hour 37 mins 31 secs ) [10:32] hi Yagisan-aWay [10:32] Yagisan-aWay: want to kill that away message, before it drives us nuts? [10:32] Hobbsee, soory. just broke my system [10:32] heh [10:32] Obviously :p === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] sorry Hobbsee, was testing the new irc client before being called off for a kid emergency [10:34] it was spamming the channel ? [10:36] Yagisan: no problem. not that bad. [10:36] crap. sorry about that [10:37] Yagisan: yes, all of them :) [10:37] oh god [10:37] in colour, too === Yagisan should hide [10:37] I should have used gaim [10:38] you must be desperate === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] :( I don't know why it did that. xchat doesn't have announce away messages set === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-102-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Enverex [i=user@host-84-9-189-109.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] If I want to request packages, is there any easy place to do it? === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ is now known as doko [11:04] ok. all xchat plugins removed until I find the troublemaker. [11:05] Hobbsee, feel free to kick me if the client spams the channel agin. It won't hurt my feelings - but will make other clents seem very attractive === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] Yagisan: hehe, seems okay [11:07] Yagisan: it's probably called autorejoin or something [11:07] Enverex: there [11:07] Enverex: there's a link - motu universe candidates or something on the wiki? search for that, and it should come up [11:07] Yeah, I'm editing that page now. I wasn't sure if it was the right one or not [11:08] I have to be honest though, it's a horrible thing to use. A section on Launchpad would be much easier and neater too [11:08] sure, that's been discussed [11:08] I even thought I remember seeing requests on Launchpad.. [11:08] Although they may have been mixed in with bug reports [11:09] ergo they'll just get lost [11:09] you probably have, as bug reports === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] hmm, ajmitch , you said it's been discussed? Is it feasable? Because at the moment people can't comment on anything, ask questions, flag it easily and it's almost a nightmare trying to add or edit anything on such a big wiki page... [11:12] Hell, I'll even transfer everything off that page to the LP section if I have to [11:13] currently the only ways it can be done on launchpad is via support requests or bug reports [11:13] neither of which really suit it [11:14] Ah, so Launchpad doesn't have the ability to have more sections added... damn [11:14] So you recommend the wiki page for now ajmitch ? [11:15] sadly, yes [11:16] *nods* ok, I'll keep editing that [11:17] Copying the box out into Bluefish and editing it in there makes it more bearable, as you can't even seach inside the textbox in a webbrowser, heh === redguy [n=mati@afb122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] Grrr, I can't decide between Ubuntu or Gentoo. Gentoo has the options on what to compile a program with where as with binary packages you get what you've given but you also don't have to compile anything... but on the other hand Gentoo's portage has more programs in it... but then most the people that use Gentoo on IRC seem to be ***holes who insist you fix every program yourself.. [11:39] Enverex, I'll decide for you: use Ubuntu [11:39] ;) [11:39] Enverex: what packages are missing in ubuntu? ;) [11:39] Enverex: how many programs are there in gentoo's portage? [11:39] ~28500 [11:40] impressive [11:40] and which ones from these do you miss? ;) [11:40] A few of the blah2iso things, E-UAE, UADE, some other emulators, Amarok won't play FLAC files (I assume it was compiled without support for them) and other programs I can't remember off the top of my head [11:41] I guess I just miss all the options Gentoo gave me [11:41] Enverex: you can enable flac support in amarok [11:41] and you can compile the other things from syrce in ubuntu, too, what's holding you back? :) [11:42] while you're at it, create debian packages for the missing things and upload them to MOTU ;) [11:42] and you could package the ;) [11:42] It makes me feel like my system is becomming dirty if I compile from source (not everything has a make uninstall so it makes me think I'll end up with hundreds and eventually thousands of orphaned files) [11:42] BazziR, Tried that, drove me to the edge of insanity [11:43] Enverex: well, vmware is great to play around with things from source [11:43] erm, how's that? [11:43] you can build a (simple!) *.deb there and install just the binary on your main system [11:44] and just revert to a working state once something is fubared [11:44] I don't follow, what does that have to do with VMWare? [11:44] the snapshot mechanism is extremely convenient for such things imo [11:44] I know there are all sorts of different solutions available [11:45] When I try and play FLAC files in Amarok it just says "There is no audio channel!" === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] BazziR, I still don't follow what you're suggesting [11:46] hmmm [11:46] I don't know how I can put it the right way === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] but I use vmware for keeping the house clean [11:46] I don't understand how that is possible or would work [11:46] why don't you just use a chroot? [11:47] To do what exactly? [11:47] test new things in the vmware, share them between windows and linux, etc [11:47] What does Windows have to do with anything? [11:47] lol, this is becoming random tangent time [11:47] I am one of those poor souls still using windows [11:48] My only issue was that if I compile from source it's not easy to remove the thing again if I ever want to [11:48] Doing that in a chroot or VM is just going to make it a massive hassle to ever actually use === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] Enverex: you talked about blatoiso packages... what about packaging them? should be really easy and i'll review them for you ;) [11:54] slomo_, Kinda lost the drive to package anything tbh, trying to package those things before really got to me so I'm not up for doing anymore [11:55] *shrug* [11:56] After spending 2 days trying to do stuff and achiving so little you kinda lose the drive to do it. I changed to Ubuntu because I was sick of spending hours or days trying to get something to emerge if it kept failing, doing this feels no different. All work and no play. === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:04] Hrm. How do I diff two diff files? [12:05] interdiff [12:05] StevenK: interdiff [12:06] Ah, thanks. [12:09] hmm, maybe I'll go halves. Gentoo on the desktop (Athlon64 X2 so compiling isn't too bad) and Ubuntu on the laptop... === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B38E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] Ubugtu: bug 54423 [12:17] Malone bug 54423 in initramfs-tools "[edgy] update-initramfs fails without a useful error message" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54423 [12:19] It seems that mkinitramfs re-execs itself. [12:20] No, I'm on crack. [12:21] update-initramfs execs mkinitramfs which is failing with no output. === ctd_ [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x535d8908.vgnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast_ [n=martin@p508B331D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] wow gaim2 has *really* improved [12:44] its lost the 3 startup windows of doom and the message sent/recv sound does send me flying through the roof clutching my ears everytime i hear it [12:46] That's an improvement? [12:48] hrm who is iwj ? [12:48] Ian Jackson [12:49] iwj on irc too ? [12:49] iwj or Diziet [12:49] hrm ok, /me looks for him in -devel [12:50] must not be on atm *thinks* [12:50] StevenK: you running edgy atm ? [12:52] StevenK: would it not accomplish the same task to make u-d-s dep firefox-themes-ubuntu and not firefox its self ( so the {k,x}ubuntu guys dont get stuck with a orange human theme ? [12:53] imbrandon: No, I don't run Edgy. [12:54] imbrandon: Can you expand u-d-s? [12:54] or am i thinking about that wrong, seem iwj added firefox-themes-ubuntu to ff this last edgy update [12:54] ubuntu-default-settings [12:54] Ah. [12:54] I'm not sure, you'd need to ask iwj? [12:54] and it makes {k,u,edu}ubuntu have the human theme [12:54] when they install ff [12:54] heh ok thats what i was thinking [12:55] err k/x/edu but you get thte idea === ToadZzZztool is now known as Toadstool [12:55] Surely {k,x,ed} ? [12:55] hi everybody [12:55] yea /me is tired heh [12:55] heya Toadstool [12:55] hey imbrandon === psychoducky [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast_ [n=martin@p508B331D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast_ is now known as pirast === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F0B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x535d8908.vgnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] hi Hobbsee and ogra [01:23] hi Kamping_Kaiser, ogra [01:23] :) [01:23] o_0 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] oh yay, X didnt break. === Hobbsee looks to see what else broke. [01:25] heh === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser waits for internode to sync their mirror so he can have some fun [01:26] hehe === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x535d8908.vgnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] ping, oh godly ones? is it an ok thing for a package no not find the gpg key when downloading source? [01:48] gpg: Signature made Thu 02 Mar 2006 17:20:16 CST using DSA key ID A7D91602 [01:48] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] Kamping_Kaiser: specify the key with -kyourkeyid [01:50] Kamping_Kaiser: ohhh...yeah, that, yeah. [01:50] Kamping_Kaiser: Depends. What does apt-key list say? [01:52] StevenK, gpg: can't access `/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg': Permission denied [01:52] probably it [01:52] run with sudo [01:52] Yes, sudo is it. [01:54] http://pastebin.ca/104994 [01:57] can someone confirm that gpg --search-keys "" crashes? [01:57] and gpg --search-keys "o" works [01:58] crash [01:59] slomo_, http://pastebin.ca/104996 [01:59] ok === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee__ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] hi all [02:03] hi [02:03] Kamping_Kaiser: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnupg/+bug/54434 <--- please set to confirmed :) [02:03] Malone bug 54434 in gnupg "crashes when searching for a key which contains a unicode character" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] === Hobbsee__ is now known as Hobbsee === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] opinions wanted on http://progbox.co.uk/attempt5.mp3 [02:05] slomo_, ok :) === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.202.74] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] StevenK: around? [02:05] hi btw :) [02:05] Ish [02:06] StevenK: hi [02:06] slomo_, confirmed [02:06] Kamping_Kaiser: thanks [02:06] StevenK: Hobbsee said you would know wether the vpn modules for (k)networkmanager in edgy? [02:07] np === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] Ahh. That's a good point. I haven't thought about them yet. [02:07] StevenK: that would be brilliant, since they are not working properly in dapper [02:08] They don't exist in dapper. [02:08] Well, dapper proper anyway. === ^ohoel [n=beshy@85.89.201.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] StevenK: yes, and those I got didn't work with the dapper packages [02:10] StevenK: which ones? i doubt you could backport 0.6 of n-m to dapper. [02:10] network-manager | 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 | dapper | source, amd64, i386 [02:10] Hrrrm? [02:12] hm, *clicks on 'help'* *slaps button* *opens LP* === Pazzo [n=thomas@host130-250-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [02:13] StevenK: ah okay, i thought dapper still had 0.5 === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] Hobbsee: that would be shocking [02:17] danimo: well....there are lots of bug reports on 0.6 === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-145-190.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] Hobbsee: yes I know, but it's not too bad === Hobbsee counts. ndiswrapper, possible wpa, madwifi.... [02:26] Hobbsee: WPA works just fine [02:26] StevenK: oh yeah, your card is likely a dlink - ie completely screwed with current ndiswrapper too. [02:26] danimo: on edgy? [02:26]