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| Signifer123 | this is alot more calm than #ubuntu | 12:23 |
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| Burgundavia | yep | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | heh | 12:23 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:17 |
| mhz | hi, bddebian | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Hello mhz | 03:18 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 04:07 |
| bddebian | Hello sbalneav | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | Good UTC-5 to you, bddebian! | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | -5? I would've though you were -6 | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | Hey LaserJock!! How are you! | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | ok | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | how's it going up there? | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | a? | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | Going good! | 04:11 |
| sbalneav | On holidays! | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | cool | 04:11 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: That's funny because I was thinking EDT was -4 :) | 04:15 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: well, it depends on you're perspective. The Eastern US is that little chunk on the Atlantic Coast ;-) | 04:17 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I'm wondering if I should just sync lyx? THe last change was just me adding some xml files for mime handling but I got "yelled" at for my last xml files | 04:19 |
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| lecaros | mhz | 04:20 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: yeah | 04:20 |
| bddebian | Oh, heh, wrong channel :-) | 04:21 |
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| mhz | lecaros: again, for 100th time.. | 04:24 |
| mhz | pong | 04:24 |
| mhz | :D | 04:24 |
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| lecaros | hi Yagisan, how're your eyes? | 05:24 |
| Yagisan | G'day lecaros | 05:24 |
| Yagisan | well, good news and bad news | 05:24 |
| lecaros | tell us :) | 05:24 |
| Yagisan | Good news is the eyes are fine. Bad news is it is a neuroligical (brain) problem | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | ? | 05:25 |
| Yagisan | apparently my eyes are better then fine, wich is a small comfit. | 05:25 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock, I see coloured spots that don't exist | 05:25 |
| lecaros | humnmm | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | you brain is making the spots? | 05:25 |
| Yagisan | apparently so. It apprears to be an "occular migrane" basically something goes wrong with the blood vessels in the vision part of my brain | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | is it treatable? | 05:27 |
| Yagisan | to be honest - as far as I know only by taking drugs every day - which I'm not keen on. I'm trying to get a neurologist appoitment set up | 05:29 |
| Yagisan | pretend I can spell | 05:30 |
| mhz | Hi there | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | pretend I can read ;-) | 05:30 |
| mhz | https://launchpad.net/people/mhz-esfera | 05:30 |
| mhz | How could that happen? | 05:30 |
| mhz | it even has all my initials | 05:31 |
| lecaros | jeje fuiste t... | 05:31 |
| mhz | and I do have an email account on Esfera server | 05:31 |
| mhz | lecaros: not that i know of | 05:31 |
| lecaros | and has your name, and surname | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | mhz: maybe you have a stalker :-) | 05:32 |
| mhz | geee! the problems we have for being so famous!! | 05:34 |
| lecaros | hahahaha, but it's Mauricio Hernandez Z., just like you | 05:35 |
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| ball | hello ogra | 07:52 |
| ball | Anyone here happen to know what kind of boot ROM I might use to turn a PC into a graphical terminal for use with edubuntu? | 07:53 |
| ball | (I'm just going back to the "Getting Started" page now... | 07:53 |
| ball | ...but I thought I'd ask since I was here). | 07:54 |
| ogra | doesnt the card have PXE support ? | 07:56 |
| ogra | try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BoothingThinClientsWithoutPXE | 07:56 |
| ball | These will probably be pre-PXE machines. | 07:58 |
| ball | ...unless I buy new graphical terminals, which sounds expensive. | 07:59 |
| ball | ROM-o-matic.net looks useful. | 08:01 |
| ball | Hmm... need an EPROM programmer too, but those are handy things to have laying around anyway. | 08:02 |
| ball | Is it sensible to have the graphical terminals on a separate Ethernet than the one the "server" host will use to connect to the outside world? | 08:10 |
| ogra | yep | 08:10 |
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| ball | hello arkan0x | 08:11 |
| ball | ogra: happen to know how large the EPROM should be, capacity-wise? | 08:25 |
| ogra | nope | 08:25 |
| ogra | but i guess bigger than the image you want to store on it would be a good start :) | 08:26 |
| ball | ogra: but I'm not sure what size Ethernet cards take. | 08:28 |
| ogra | have a look at the ltsp.org wiki ... its very likely there is some info | 08:30 |
| ball | thanks | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | morning ogra | 08:32 |
| ogra | morning | 08:33 |
| ball | Do people normally have hard disks in their graphical terminals for edubuntu then? | 08:38 |
| ogra | nope | 08:39 |
| ball | ogra: oh, PXE? | 08:44 |
| ogra | yep | 08:45 |
| ogra | and no disks | 08:45 |
| ball | having no disks is a Good Thing | 08:46 |
| ball | Oh well, I'm off to bed now. Thanks for your help ogra. | 08:48 |
| ball | part #edubuntu thanks | 08:49 |
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| Yagisan | G'day spacey. That server, it's not comming back is it ? | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: is there a spec about an edubuntu grid? | 10:55 |
| ogra | grid ? | 10:56 |
| Burgundavia | load balancing on multiple edubuntu servers | 10:56 |
| ogra | nope | 10:56 |
| ogra | there is no sane solution for that yet | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | my crack idea was to have it work across an entire lab, with a mix of thin and fat clients | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | but that is just a little more work | 10:57 |
| ogra | talk to neuralis, he made a study about it | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | just thought about it reading that email that mdz forwarded from debian-edu | 10:58 |
| ogra | you need to patch around a lot in th eernel | 10:58 |
| ogra | *kernel | 10:58 |
| ogra | my plan is to once have it in automatically... but thats still far in the future ... wont happen until we have custering stuff in the kernel | 10:59 |
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| Burgundavia | isn't that what fabbione keeps grinding away at? | 11:00 |
| ogra | nope | 11:00 |
| ogra | thats cluster filesystem | 11:00 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 11:00 |
| ogra | which we could use as well, but wont help the issue | 11:01 |
| ogra | you eed something like openmosix (or the successor ... forgot the name) | 11:01 |
| ogra | as long as linus doesnt think about including it, our kernel wont have it | 11:02 |
| Burgundavia | yep, fun | 11:03 |
| lucasvo | is the cluster code really that bad? or why doesn't he like it? | 11:04 |
| ogra | its written for 2.4 and its intrusive ... | 11:04 |
| lucasvo | ah, yes. right, they haven't ported it to version 2.6 | 11:04 |
| ogra | they have, but in a very crappy manner ... | 11:05 |
| ogra | it needs a new implementation instead of a port | 11:05 |
| ogra | it must honor 2.6 and fit in cleanly ... which the ported code doesnt | 11:05 |
| Yagisan | so true | 11:06 |
| Yagisan | that's why I dropped it when I went to 2.6 | 11:06 |
| Yagisan | IIRC only one person is porting it (openmosix) to 2.6 | 11:07 |
| lucasvo | ogra: but that ram-cluster will get included into edgy? | 11:07 |
| ogra | ram cluster ? | 11:08 |
| lucasvo | sharing ram between clients and server? | 11:09 |
| lucasvo | cluster is the wrong term | 11:09 |
| ogra | how would that work ? | 11:09 |
| ogra | if i could access the servers ram from a client, localdevices and direct alsa support would be trivial :) you could even use dri without the need for local apps | 11:10 |
| lucasvo | ogra: instead of storing tmp files in swap store it in the ram of a thin clien? | 11:10 |
| Yagisan | a virtual numa system ? | 11:10 |
| ogra | you mean a swap server | 11:11 |
| ogra | yes, rodarvus will implement that | 11:11 |
| lucasvo | exactly | 11:11 |
| ogra | but thats only exported swapfiles ... | 11:11 |
| lucasvo | I'm about to buy a new cell phone, which one should I buy? | 11:11 |
| Burgundavia | lucasvo: one with linux | 11:12 |
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| lucasvo | :) | 11:12 |
| lucasvo | Burgundavia: as long as it is affordable and works in CH... | 11:12 |
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| Yagisan | I spend 4 months trying to get a linux phone is OZ. Couldn't get one :( | 11:20 |
| Amaranth | ogra: looks like i'm going to have to tap into python-pam sooner than i thought | 11:57 |
| Amaranth | ogra: i have to switch to the willowng user on my own | 11:58 |
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| Amaranth | or i could wimp out and create the pid file in the init script :P | 11:58 |
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| pc22 | hello all | 12:01 |
| Amaranth | hi | 12:03 |
| pc22 | whats the easiest ftp server to use (graphic) if ever? | 12:05 |
| pc22 | whats the easiest ftp server to use (graphic) if ever? | 12:06 |
| pc22 | sorry | 12:06 |
| Amaranth | i don't think there is a graphical ftp server | 12:07 |
| pc22 | ok | 12:07 |
| Amaranth | i think pure-ftpd uses your regular user accounts though | 12:09 |
| Amaranth | so it should largely be an install and forget kind of thing | 12:09 |
| Amaranth | is gthumb larger than f-spot? | 12:12 |
| Amaranth | it appears to be... | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | Amaranth: gthumb also has the issue of being basically unmaintained | 12:17 |
| Amaranth | true | 12:17 |
| Amaranth | and i asked in the wrong channel :P | 12:17 |
| Amaranth | was reading #ubuntu-desktop then switched over here to talk for something reason | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | it mostly all the same people anyway | 12:17 |
| Amaranth | the real problem is migration | 12:18 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | yep, but I heard from the hores mouth (lewing) that that problem would be solved within the edgy cycle | 12:21 |
| Burgundavia | anyway, I need to sleep | 12:22 |
| Burgundavia | night | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: depends what you need migrated | 12:24 |
| Amaranth | ajmitch: every piece of data in gthumb that has an equivalent in f-spot | 12:25 |
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| Amaranth | oh wtf | 12:52 |
| Amaranth | now my app dies trying to close a non-existent fd | 12:52 |
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| ajmitch | hi rodarvus | 01:00 |
| rodarvus | good morning | 01:00 |
| rodarvus | hi ajmitch! | 01:00 |
| Amaranth | arg | 01:06 |
| Amaranth | so close, yet so far | 01:06 |
| Amaranth | got the init script figured out, python policy junk, now the two pieces won't speak to each other | 01:06 |
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| pc22 | good morning | 02:15 |
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| sbalneav | morning all | 03:03 |
| sbalneav | ogra: ping | 03:03 |
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| rodarvus | sbalneav, morning! | 03:27 |
| sbalneav | Morning rodarvus!!! | 03:27 |
| sbalneav | How's it going? | 03:27 |
| highvoltage | hi rodarvus and sbalneav :) | 03:27 |
| sbalneav | hey highvoltage | 03:28 |
| sbalneav | Where's not an infobot in this channel, is there? | 03:28 |
| highvoltage | there is one, with data, but not on the channe currently | 03:29 |
| highvoltage | i ran it off my pc when i still had an internet connection at home | 03:29 |
| highvoltage | wanna host it? :) | 03:29 |
| sbalneav | I was just going to say. What kind is it, a supybot? | 03:29 |
| highvoltage | Knab | 03:29 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage, hi there! | 03:29 |
| highvoltage | Knab is very similar to infobot | 03:30 |
| sbalneav | Sure, I'd host it. I host the ltspbot. | 03:30 |
| rodarvus | sbalneav, all fine - just lurking a little while on irc (and working too), while I wait for the wife to get ready ;) | 03:30 |
| highvoltage | rodarvus: i see from edgy-changes that you've settled into the new job quite nicely ;) | 03:30 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: cool. I'll upload it when I'm back home on Friday | 03:30 |
| sbalneav | tarball it to sbalneav@ltsp.org | 03:31 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage, yeah, I have to - otherwise there will be thousands of users on my foot :) | 03:31 |
| highvoltage | people have been asking for edubuntu girl to be back for a long time. | 03:31 |
| rodarvus | well, wife is calling - gotta leave! | 03:31 |
| highvoltage | heh | 03:31 |
| rodarvus | see you all | 03:31 |
| highvoltage | bye! | 03:31 |
| sbalneav | nye | 03:31 |
| sbalneav | bye | 03:31 |
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| sbalneav | well, popping up to make breakfast. be on later. | 03:34 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:48 |
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| trevor_ | does anyone know a good way to set up a dual boot of windows xp and Ubuntu from seperate hard drives? | 06:24 |
| === mhz has never used dual boot with XP, and...he uses Edubuntu :D | ||
| Yagisan | trevor_, have you tried the obvious ? | 06:27 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, install windows of fist disk | 06:27 |
| Yagisan | then install (ed/k)ubuntu on the second | 06:28 |
| Yagisan | and tell grub to install on the first disk ? | 06:28 |
| Yagisan | it might/might not work - but that would be the first thing I try | 06:28 |
| Yagisan | assuming I was paid enough to install windows ;) | 06:29 |
| mhz | and the wiki has tons of examples, i am sure | 06:29 |
| mhz | wiki.ubuntu.com | 06:29 |
| trevor_ | i looked this up beforehand...and read an article by one guy who said NOT to install GRUB to the primary HD, and that it was possible to use | 06:30 |
| trevor_ | bootpart" from windows and edit the boot.ini | 06:30 |
| trevor_ | any way to install GRUB to the windows disc without doing a clean sweep? | 06:31 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, what makes you think installing grub wipes your disk ? | 06:32 |
| trevor_ | no, i mean without re-installing linux | 06:32 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, IIRC it's sudo grub-install <disk/to/install/on> | 06:33 |
| === mhz wonders why Windows does not have IRC support for users who want to dual boot with Linux...it is so unfair :D | ||
| Yagisan | mhz, because their bootloader can't load two versions of windows without haveing issues | 06:34 |
| mhz | exactly! | 06:34 |
| mhz | that is why I say it is unfair. | 06:34 |
| trevor_ | okay, a second question. Say i treat my Linux as my primary drive, and windows as the slave...how do I make grub recognize the windows disc? | 06:35 |
| mhz | I remember that once a user got angry with me because I had no idea how to dual boot. He said "why are you here to give support then if you dont want to tell me how to dual boot?"" | 06:35 |
| mhz | trevor_: grub will | 06:36 |
| trevor_ | since I already have GRUB on the linux disc, i can just have that be my main boot | 06:36 |
| trevor_ | and since I won't be transfering any files between the discs, i can keep them on the same IDE channel? | 06:37 |
| mhz | trevor_: what version of edubuntu are you planning to run? | 06:37 |
| trevor_ | i am actually just runnign the plain Ubuntu | 06:37 |
| trevor_ | 6.06 LTS | 06:37 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, oh, plain ubuntu ... | 06:38 |
| trevor_ | difference? | 06:38 |
| mhz | trevor_: and how did you get to this channel? | 06:38 |
| trevor_ | Konversation just pointed me this way | 06:38 |
| mhz | trevor_: well, not many, but diff objectives and spices | 06:38 |
| mhz | trevor_: Edubuntu is aimed to help teachers, students and lab admins to implement Lab solutions for schools and alike | 06:39 |
| mhz | hence, applications are aimed to educational purposes | 06:40 |
| trevor_ | i am just a home user | 06:40 |
| trevor_ | i have only really expirimented with linux via Live CDs before now...but took a liking to Ubuntu | 06:40 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, it's best to let the (ed/k)ubuntu installer set up dual boot when you install it | 06:42 |
| trevor_ | I guess I will try having Linux as my primary boot/OS and Windows the slave...if that doesn't work...continue doing the whole "crack the case open and manually fix it" thing | 06:42 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, you don't need to do that | 06:43 |
| Yagisan | trevor_, just install windows first (if needed) | 06:43 |
| Yagisan | then install (ed/k)ubuntu to the other drive | 06:43 |
| trevor_ | just boot with GRUB instead of NTLDR from the main drive then? | 06:44 |
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| bddebian | re | 08:31 |
| highvoltage | re | 08:39 |
| bddebian | Heya highvoltage | 08:39 |
| highvoltage | heya bddebian! | 08:39 |
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| HedgeMage | Wow, I walk in and all the fun starts ;) | 08:41 |
| bddebian | Heh, hi HedgeMage | 08:42 |
| HedgeMage | hi bddebian :) | 08:42 |
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| highvoltage | ugh, closed laptop lid as i picked it up :) | 09:16 |
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| splashx | hey, could anyone explain why dvd iso is 3.3gb if cds (install and live) has ~700mb each one? | 09:50 |
| splashx | i looked for the contents but i couldn't find a especific explanation.. | 09:50 |
| splashx | .list file is too huge.. | 09:50 |
| splashx | what else dvd iso has? :~ | 09:51 |
| highvoltage | the DVD contains the entire 'main' section, afaik | 09:51 |
| splashx | well, i need to check what i'll need to use then.. | 09:52 |
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| pygi | HedgeMage, :))))) | 10:37 |
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| mhz | hehehe | 10:39 |
| HedgeMage | hi pygi :) | 10:40 |
| pygi | hey mhz, HedgeMage ;) | 10:40 |
| mhz | the spray!!! | 10:40 |
| mhz | pygi: hi there | 10:40 |
| === HedgeMage sprays pygi with tickle-repellant | ||
| === mhz is migrating wiki sites | ||
| === HedgeMage smooches mhz and hands him a backup can | ||
| HedgeMage | I should be back for real about Tuesday | 10:41 |
| === mhz loves HedgeMage | ||
| HedgeMage | Hubby is getting some leave from work :) | 10:41 |
| === HedgeMage beams at mhz | ||
| mhz | oh, nice | 10:41 |
| mhz | leaves are nice when love's around | 10:41 |
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| mhz | pygi: ! | 10:42 |
| mhz | come on! | 10:42 |
| === mhz loves pygi too! | ||
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| mhz | HedgeMage: he did leave for good? | 10:45 |
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| pygi | HedgeMage, please jabber, I need to talk to you about something | 11:03 |
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