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| Hobbsee | hi all | 06:23 |
| robotgeek | hey Hobbsee | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek: :) | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | hi imbrandon, how's the machine? | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | being lazy lol, lemme add you an account, give me a few minutes | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: heh | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | i'm vnc'd into my brothers machine atm helping him | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | for a moment | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | he is converting from windows to kubuntu ;) | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice! :) | 06:26 |
| robotgeek | nice! | 06:29 |
| robotgeek | i used OS X for 3 weeks. now i am back on kubuntu | 06:29 |
| imbrandon | heh i'm torn between osx and kubuntu | 06:30 |
| === Hobbsee was lookign at OS X today, actually. | ||
| === imbrandon loves osx for somethings | ||
| lnxkde | talking about osx | 06:31 |
| robotgeek | i really like kmail. and amarok :) | 06:31 |
| lnxkde | someone here using kxdocker or engage with compiz and xgl on kubuntu? | 06:32 |
| === robotgeek hides | ||
| lnxkde | :P | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | sounds scary. | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek: you manage to stop kmail crashing? wow. | 06:32 |
| lnxkde | http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9413/snapshot1ge3.png <-- curent kubuntu system | 06:32 |
| robotgeek | Hobbsee: i'm still on dapper? | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek: that's when i was trying kmail. | 06:33 |
| robotgeek | hmm, to come to think of it, kmail died on me when i shoved 250mb of mail at it | 06:34 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:36 |
| robotgeek | i now like to keep kmail's mail directory separate on another partition, where it is readable by mutt also :) | 06:38 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:38 |
| === Hobbsee just uses thunderbird. no more problem | ||
| imbrandon | revolution os, heh i havent seen that movie in a while | 06:39 |
| imbrandon | good call | 06:39 |
| robotgeek | i have great difficulty using thunderbird after i've gotten used to kmail | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | good point | 06:40 |
| robotgeek | the killer feature is the attachment thing, which reminds you if you have forgotten to attach files | 06:40 |
| imbrandon | i like thunderbird becouse i can use it on osx / windows and linux | 06:40 |
| robotgeek | you can get that in thunderbird via an extension | 06:40 |
| Hobbsee | ahh...i've learned to attach files first, then write the message afterwards - so i cant forget | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as i use webmail every once in a while too | 06:41 |
| robotgeek | i usually dont use webmail, so not an issue for me. | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | lucky...i dotn take my laptop everywhere | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | heh , i take mine EVERYWHERE | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | thats the point of having it for me | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | otherwise i use desktopsa | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | s/a// | 06:43 |
| robotgeek | gmail is blocked at work, and i dont bring work email home | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh... | 06:44 |
| === imbrandon works for himself so .... heh | ||
| === Hobbsee will likely take her laptop more to uni this semester, based on the class start times. | ||
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: yea showoff kde at the uni ;) | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: heh, could do that. | 06:45 |
| imbrandon | and koffice ;) | 06:45 |
| imbrandon | and knotes etc ;) | 06:45 |
| === imbrandon should go back to school for some classes | ||
| Hobbsee | how do you pin a package? | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | !pin | 06:59 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about pin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | !pinning | 06:59 |
| ubotu | pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto | 06:59 |
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| imbrandon | !pin is <alias> pinning | 06:59 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | !pin is <alias> pinning | 06:59 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | oh, darn you. | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 07:00 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i've got an idiot question for you | 07:44 |
| imbrandon | sure one sec | 07:46 |
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| freeflying|away | !libx11-6 | 08:39 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about libx11-6 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 08:39 |
| freeflying|away | !info libx11-6 | 08:40 |
| ubotu | libx11-6: X11 client-side library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 3368 kB | 08:40 |
| imbrandon | !info libx11-6 edgy | 08:41 |
| ubotu | libx11-6: X11 client-side library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 553 kB, installed size 1176 kB | 08:42 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah. | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | kk | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: why do you have a k7 kernel installed on what is showing as an i686 machine? | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | its not 686 , cat /proc/cpuinfo | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ahhh...according to uname -a it is | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | amd64 3400+ | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm okay | 09:02 |
| === Hobbsee keeps merging. | ||
| imbrandon | hehe | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | its actualy a k8 proc but | 09:02 |
| === Hobbsee did two merges, and is about to request two syncs. | ||
| imbrandon | i dident want 64bit | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | hehe cool | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | i'm loading dapper on my lappy | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | so i have atleaste __one_stable machine to check my mail etc heh | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | and watch sg-1 epsodes on ( since season 10 just started ) heh | 09:05 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: is there a "craigslist" for sydney ? reason i ask is i found some great deals on apple lappys on there | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: a what? no idea... | 09:06 |
| imbrandon | you might check that ;) | 09:06 |
| imbrandon | ahh its like a garage sale on the internet | 09:06 |
| imbrandon | one for all major cities | 09:07 |
| Hobbsee | ahh... | 09:07 |
| imbrandon | leaste in the US, i'll check if they have a sydney one | 09:07 |
| imbrandon | haha matter of fact they do, thats cool | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | where at? | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: http://sydney.craigslist.org/ <-- main url ....... check http://sydney.craigslist.org/sys | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | for computer stuff | 09:08 |
| === Hobbsee looks | ||
| imbrandon | pretty good place to get stuff, becouse you can physicaly check it out before you buy it | 09:09 |
| imbrandon | becouse its local 99% of the time | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | oh nice :) | 09:10 |
| === Hobbsee was looking at laptops earlier today :P | ||
| imbrandon | heh yea i find most of my computers that way | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | lots cheaper | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | the salesperson asked if i did a subject at the uni, whcih i had - he recognised me | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | i'm like "yeah, i got a distinction in it" "oh wow!" | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | heh, distinction == good ? | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: it goes, from top to bottom: high distinction, distinction, credit, pass, conceded pass, fail | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok , cool | 09:13 |
| === Hobbsee pokes intrepid | ||
| imbrandon | ohh cruft your still on intrepid heh | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | i forgot to add you to voyager | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | lol | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | meany :( | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | one sec | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | hehe give me a sec | 09:13 |
| === Hobbsee notes that the screen session is now dead. oh well | ||
| danimo | moin! | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | hi danimo! | 09:18 |
| imbrandon | ok Hobbsee grab anything you need off intrepid and logout for the last time, lemme know when your off | 09:18 |
| danimo | heya Hobbsee! | 09:19 |
| === imbrandon notes i dident backup your /home | ||
| === danimo yawns | ||
| imbrandon | heya danimo | 09:19 |
| danimo | hi imbrandon | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: just the simflight*.deb in /var/cache/pbuilder/edgy/result | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | heh copy it to /media/server/hobbsee | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | you will be able to grab it from there off voyager | 09:20 |
| === Hobbsee nods. | ||
| imbrandon | i have /media/server mapped on all the comuters | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | anyhow when you have everything copied you want lemme know i'll shutdown intrepid and transfer the ssh ports to voyager | 09:21 |
| Tm_T | hmmmh | 09:21 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: like to test something simple? | 09:22 |
| Tm_T | or anyone with KDE 3.5.4 | 09:22 |
| === imbrandon thinks of a new name for his lappy | ||
| imbrandon | Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.17-5-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)CPU2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5874 bogomips), , RAM: 627/1003MB, 103 proc's, 6.40h up | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | i'm on 354 wasup ? | 09:23 |
| Tm_T | just try to use custom titlebar button settings | 09:23 |
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| imbrandon | i do | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | thats one of the first things i set | 09:23 |
| Tm_T | that's one of main problems here, over half of windeco settings doesn't apply | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | hrm i use the akdc kwin windeco | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | that might be part of it | 09:24 |
| Tm_T | I tried many | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | hrm strange | 09:24 |
| Tm_T | indeed | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | and see | 09:25 |
| Tm_T | almost like som parts of kwinrc is skipped while reading | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | seems to work for me here, let me fiddle with another engine | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: havent transferred stuff yet | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | and see | 09:25 |
| Tm_T | imbrandon: thanks | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: thats fine, just lemme know when | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: did you have my last lot of backup? | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | what ever is in /media/server/hobbsee is what i have backed up for you from your /home | 09:26 |
| imbrandon | its not recient | 09:26 |
| imbrandon | the pbuilder etc i have all setup already on voyager | 09:26 |
| imbrandon | just not your /home stuff | 09:26 |
| Hobbsee | right, so i'll need the profile | 09:26 |
| Hobbsee | sigh. can i kill off bluefoxicy please? | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | yea honestly i would rm -rf /media/server/hobbsee/* and just copy what you want like your .gnupg and .bash* | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | and any deb's you just built | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: having trouble connecting in again | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i can tell you where the stuff is, if you want | 09:28 |
| imbrandon | kk one sec lemme login to it | 09:28 |
| imbrandon | k i'm in | 09:28 |
| imbrandon | what ya need ? | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: okay, .bash_profile and .bashrc | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | ~/.gnupg | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | and /var/cache/pbuilder/edgy/result/simgear*.deb | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | k | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | gimme just a sec | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | meanwhile think of a good name for my lappy hehe | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 09:31 |
| === Hobbsee thinks along the lines of vogon constructor fleets | ||
| imbrandon | http://pastebin.ca/106294 <-- anything else ? | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: scritps in /usr/local/bin? | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea one sec | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | dont make me write them again :P | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | heh i have them all already cept {dapper,revu,edgy}build | 09:34 |
| === imbrandon gets those | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i'd just get them, and overwrite them or something. | 09:35 |
| Hobbsee | it doesnt really matter | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | well i modified the pbuilder-* to use the US mirrors and not the gb/jp/au ones it had | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | so i'll keep those and just get the *build ones | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | brandon@intrepid:/usr/local/bin$ sudo cp -Rv {dapper,revu,edgy}build /media/server/hobbsee/ | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | `dapperbuild' -> `/media/server/hobbsee/dapperbuild' | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | `revubuild' -> `/media/server/hobbsee/revubuild' | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | `edgybuild' -> `/media/server/hobbsee/edgybuild' | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | kk done | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | think thats it | 09:37 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: cool | 09:37 |
| === imbrandon shuts down intrepid and messes with the router | ||
| imbrandon | your gonna have to clean out your ~/.ssh/known_hosts file again or it will complain | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | ( localy ) | 09:38 |
| === seaLne thinks we need a mono app in kubuntu to increase the flaming :) | ||
| imbrandon | seaLne: kerry is mono isnt it ? | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:38 |
| === imbrandon likes c# | ||
| seaLne | is it? | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | i think so | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yep, cool, okay | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | ok Hobbsee login | 09:43 |
| imbrandon | should be all ready | 09:43 |
| === Hobbsee repairs .bashrc | ||
| seaLne | its a pity basket 0.6 probably won't be ready for edgy as it looks so much nicer | 09:47 |
| seaLne | (than tomboy) | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: when will it be ready? | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: once your in just grab the files from /media/server/hobbsee | 09:48 |
| seaLne | http://basket.kde.org/development.php no idea | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: they seem to be there... | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | oh. | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | oops. | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | heh just the defaults are there | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | i dident copy them to your new /home yet | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | hehehe | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | since i fixed the mirrors and for pbuilder and the fact voyager has more ram it should build faster | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | oh yay. | 09:51 |
| seaLne | Riddell: is there going to be a meeting tommorow? | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: hopefully not. | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: and it's still a bit early for Riddell | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | oh, wait, we were having trouble with times. | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: you might want to pbuilder-edgy update too i havent done it since yesterday | 09:53 |
| === Hobbsee copies over a newer version anyway, cos this is being painful. | ||
| imbrandon | new version ? | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | that i had locally | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | ooh, colour prompt! | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:59 |
| === Hobbsee builds happily | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: thanks :) | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | hehe np | 10:07 |
| imbrandon | this is my day to day machine though try not to botch it up with dist-upgrades ;) | 10:07 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 10:07 |
| Hobbsee | yay for screen. | 10:07 |
| === imbrandon go's back to finishing the apt-mirror / imap server install / and listening to a python podcast | ||
| Hobbsee | bye all | 10:10 |
| seaLne | hmm "09:07 < Hobbsee> yay for screen." and "09:10 < Hobbsee> bye all" don't make sense :) | 10:16 |
| imbrandon | seaLne: heh why ? | 10:17 |
| seaLne | i was expecting her to have started ircing from within screen :) | 10:18 |
| seaLne | my first coffee of the day is now ready so i may make more sense shortly | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | ahh no she is building on voyager with screen | 10:20 |
| imbrandon | for the yay , then i guess hse had to run ;) | 10:20 |
| seaLne | when is universe freeze, i can't find the page on the wiki with dates | 10:37 |
| seaLne | ah found it | 10:40 |
| Tm_T | MMMOOOOH | 11:08 |
| Tm_T | ok, now every "tip of the day" or "first run wizard" are active | 11:09 |
| Tm_T | some weird kdelibs issue | 11:10 |
| Tm_T | AERGH! just noticed, all my input actions are gone | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | he | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:18 |
| toma | mo | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | moin | 12:14 |
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| toma | mo Hobbsee | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | hi toma | 12:17 |
| danimo | wb Hobbsee | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | hi danimo | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | yay, it built. | 12:20 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: did the wpa key hint help? | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: havent tried it - didnt feel like fighting it last night when i was very tired | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | i'm thinking kde sessions is mucking this card up, actually. we'll see. | 12:20 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: which card? | 12:37 |
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| toma | Hobbsee: could you review a new package for me? Whenever I succeed debianising it? | 12:58 |
| toma | The pbuilder howto tells me to "sudo pbuilder build my-package_1.0.dsc", but how do i get a .dsc? | 01:13 |
| === Hobbsee comes back | ||
| Hobbsee | ahhh....yes...that's why i dont like using pbuilder as such, but use pdebuild. | 01:15 |
| === Sime is working on system-settings for edgy, and it is looking pretty damn good too. | ||
| Hobbsee | danimo: ah, a netgear wg511 v2 made in china, and a dlink dwl-660 | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: yay! | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: when do we see it? | 01:16 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: there is a spec for it... | 01:16 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: dlink, netgear, the pure evil :) | 01:16 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuSystemSettingsUsability | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: dlink isnt so bad.... | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: netgear, with a marvell driver though... | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: the real problem is that it doesnt like my network - it was workign fine in this machine while i was out, but not at home | 01:17 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: I had my very special expririence, with a dlink router though | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: looks good | 01:19 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: the implementation is now pretty close to the mock up. :) | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: yay : | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | ) | 01:19 |
| === Hobbsee looks thru the rest | ||
| Hobbsee | Sime: at least the theme support needs some love - you probably already know that | 01:23 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: you mean the theme manager? | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: sorry, yeah. | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: people get confused a lot in dapper, saying "how can i install a theme" | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: that should probably be rectified somehow - whether there's a help text on the side, or a help button, or what. | 01:24 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: yeah, I don't think it is in dapper. not sure if it is planned for edgy | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: oh it's in dapper, no question - it's just that the differnet parts of the theme are treated separately | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: so you can install a theme of colours, a theme of icons, a theme of windecos...but no way to install "a theme" of all the bits together, and it's obviously not terribly obvious that you're to download and install each bit separately. | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: i mean, i figured that out, but a lot of our users in #kubuntu havent - and that's probably worth fixing. | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | is anyone else's kmenu buggered - ie, not updating? | 01:26 |
| Sime | yeah, mines rooted. :-) | 01:27 |
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| Hobbsee | right....thought it might be | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | hi apachelogger | 01:27 |
| apachelogger | ahoy Hobbsee | 01:28 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: sorry, I had to laugh. There is only one country that uses the word "buggered" like that. ;-) | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | gah. and i was going to use "screwed" instead, but thought better of it. | 01:29 |
| === Hobbsee counts buggered as synonymous with stuffed, screwed, broken, borked, FUBAR'd, and anythign else along those lines. | ||
| Hobbsee | anyway, s/buggered/broken. | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 01:30 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: could you please change ...including xmms, noatun, kscd, juk, kaffeine and amarok. ---> including Amarok, XMMS, Noatun, KsCD, JuK and Kaffeine. | 01:30 |
| Sime | I've come to like the "bitched". i.e my menu is complete bitched. | 01:30 |
| Sime | the word ^ | 01:30 |
| Sime | anyway, about the theme manager. I don't know if it is on Riddell's TODO list for edgy. | 01:31 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: kopete control file that is ^^ | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: not that we really need a theme manager in itself - the current one is good - but it's not obvious in how to use it. | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: it's in main now - grab source, change whatever you like, put it on revu :) | 01:32 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt have main uploads (yet) | ||
| === Sime is not really familar with the theme manager. | ||
| apachelogger | oh-kay :D | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: did what i say go totally over your head? | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: open it up one day. it's under appearances - see the buttons marked "import" or something similar | 01:33 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: well, I coded yesterday 8 hours in ruby ;-) | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: nice! | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | that would go over my head, no questoin. | 01:34 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: :-> not any more it ain't. The theme manager isn't in Ellen's new sys-settings menu structure... | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: ah. right. | 01:35 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: hehe, at least that damn plugin for insanity @ #amarok is now kind of working :) | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: hehe, nice. which plugin was that? | 01:35 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: advanced bar plugin | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | !flash | 01:35 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 01:36 |
| apachelogger | so one can order stuff | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 01:36 |
| apachelogger | though it ends one day :P | 01:36 |
| toma | okay, that worked | 01:36 |
| imbrandon | *cough* and include kdm theme manager from kde-look.org *cough* | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: didnt we include that? | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | yea themes in kde need a little love though, i have had to fuge them alot with the royale and osx theme | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | oh, maybe not. | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: not in dapper, havent looked in edgy | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: can you shoot me an email about that please? | 01:40 |
| imbrandon | sure | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: thanks. | 01:41 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: know if the latest version is 1.1? | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | something close to that yea | 01:42 |
| Riddell | seaLne: no meeting planned | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | argh, how do you find if anything doesnt have any build-deps outside of main, apart from building a chroot and testing it that way? | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | hi Riddell! | 01:45 |
| Riddell | morning | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | moins Riddell | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | bbiab yall switching to lappy | 01:46 |
| Riddell | Sime: theme manager is probably just a case of removing the buttons to launch the other kcontrol modules, then it can be added in | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: could we get kcontrol-kdmtheme installed by default? | 01:47 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: hmm, yet another kcontrol module | 01:47 |
| Riddell | would be ok if it was part of the default kdm module | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: add it to the appearance stuff. | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: or in that. do we have a working kdm default module? | 01:48 |
| Riddell | it was working last I used it | 01:49 |
| Riddell | which wasn't recently, but I've not heard any problems with it | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | it's been a while since i have, so okay. | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: how do we fix a borked arts? | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it doesnt generate any sort of useful backtrace. | 01:49 |
| seaLne | Riddell: k | 01:51 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: revert back to 1.5.2 I guess | 01:51 |
| Sime | speaking of arts... does anyone have mp3s working in arts or notuan? (not amorak, it uses the xine backend for mp3) | 01:52 |
| Riddell | you'll need libakode2-mpeg and/or libarts1-mpeglib | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: er...how do you get mp3's working in arts, per se? as far as i know, arts is not a music plaer | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | *player | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hmmm...okay...did you want the backtrace? it really is borked and useless. | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | it even says so itself :P | 01:54 |
| Riddell | I get the crash too | 01:54 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: right, okay. | 01:54 |
| Sime | Hobbsee: I'm with apps that use arts as a backend. | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: yep, right. | 01:54 |
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| Sime | Hobbsee: from what I understand, mp3 decode normally happens inside arts itself (in an arts plugin) | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: true. i think. i really dont know though | 01:55 |
| === Hobbsee avoids sound stuff. | ||
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| Lathiat | yeh it is | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | !show libdvdread3 edgy | 02:03 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about show libdvdread3 edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | !info libdvdread3 edgy | 02:03 |
| ubotu | libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 196 kB | 02:03 |
| === danimo is glad that arts will be gone in kde4 | ||
| danimo | suse even patched it out of kde | 02:04 |
| danimo | (3) | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | yay. i'll need an uploader for that, i suspect. | 02:04 |
| insanekane | danimo: what does suse kde use instead ? | 02:04 |
| danimo | insanekane: an early version of phonon, back then developed for kde 3 | 02:04 |
| insanekane | danimo: aha ok | 02:04 |
| danimo | insanekane: causes a lot less trouble with other sound applications it seems | 02:05 |
| insanekane | danimo: havent they given the patches back to kde so that they can be applied in kubuntu as well ? | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | woo! i can fix two bugs at once for this, i think. | 02:05 |
| danimo | insanekane: but it's fairly intrusive of course | 02:05 |
| danimo | insanekane: well, the patches are public | 02:05 |
| danimo | insanekane: they did come from kde in first place | 02:05 |
| insanekane | danimo: aha ok | 02:05 |
| insanekane | danimo: so why wasnt it applied ? | 02:06 |
| danimo | insanekane: but I think it would be easiset to pull the latest version from the suse rpms | 02:06 |
| danimo | insanekane: because Riddell thinks it's too intrusive | 02:06 |
| insanekane | intrusive in the sense ? apps stop working ? | 02:06 |
| danimo | insanekane: well, if anyone's heart is on noatun... ;) | 02:06 |
| danimo | Riddell: what was your reason? | 02:07 |
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| Riddell | danimo: for what? | 02:09 |
| Riddell | hmm, phonon in kde 3, hmm | 02:10 |
| danimo | Riddell: it used to be called different | 02:10 |
| danimo | Riddell: but it uses xine as a playerbackend afaik | 02:10 |
| Riddell | using an unreleased version of an API/library makes me nervous | 02:10 |
| danimo | Riddell: well, it's not a public api anyway | 02:11 |
| danimo | not meant to be a.. | 02:11 |
| danimo | Riddell: it is a workaround for sure | 02:11 |
| danimo | but one would have to try and see if it's worth it | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | after all, it is edgy, and we've just discovered at arts is fubar'd at current version | 02:12 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: that took you quite a while... ;) | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: hmmm? | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: i was examining libdvdread. | 02:13 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: oh, inside the kde project, arts is considered dead for a long time | 02:13 |
| === Hobbsee will be lookign for an uploader too, she expects | ||
| Hobbsee | danimo: yeah, exactly | 02:13 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: we just can't help releasing it to maintain b/c | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | b/c? | 02:14 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: that's why I was joking about it taking you until edgy to realize | 02:14 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: oh, binary compatible | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | oh | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | ahh... | 02:14 |
| danimo | and source (read: API) compatible | 02:14 |
| danimo | we cannot just take away an API in KDE | 02:14 |
| danimo | if a distributor does it, that's fine | 02:14 |
| danimo | as long as he and his users can live with it | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | are they not releasing their sources or something? | 02:14 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: who? | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: whoever is the one who is in charge of the binaries | 02:16 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: no, I think you misunderstood | 02:16 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: the KDE project committed to maintain binary compatiblity across minor releases | 02:16 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: to exactly avoid the need of say, recompiling all apps only because someone upgraded the kdelibs | 02:17 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: so recompiling is not an option | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: ahhh...right. | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: yes, i did then | 02:17 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: all KDE needs arts for is noatun and the kde system sounds | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, right. those system sounds. grumble. | 02:19 |
| === Hobbsee can live without noatun :P | ||
| danimo | Hobbsee: noatun is not shipped by default at least, and the kde system sounds work just fine with the drop-in replacement | 02:20 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: which uses xine | 02:20 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: and libxine is in main, no? | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | true | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | ah, yeah, it is | 02:20 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: less problems, at the price of switching an onofficially unsupported piece of software to an officially unsupported one :) | 02:21 |
| danimo | from an unofficially... | 02:21 |
| === danimo can't type | ||
| Hobbsee | danimo: Riddell's the one you need to convince :P | 02:21 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: I need to take over the rest of the channel first ;) | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: heh | 02:22 |
| danimo | seriously, though: Riddell: would you have a look at it? | 02:22 |
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| Hobbsee | oh yay. i need to get a 16mb source, because i cant remember a command that i want to use. grumble. | 02:25 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: see, he ignores me ;) | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: he's busy, and it's a sunday. he'll come back. | 02:26 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: only one more day :) | 02:26 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: yeah, I was kiddin | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: he ignores me too, at times, you know | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, fortunately :P | 02:26 |
| danimo | quick, someone donate Hobbsee a flat rate | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:27 |
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| === Hobbsee is happy | ||
| mhb | Hobbsee: how come? | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: i fixed the bug! | 03:31 |
| mhb | THE bug? :o) | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | well, a bug. | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | the one that makes the dvd support not properly install | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | i just need an uploader for it... *pokes Riddell* | 03:32 |
| mhb | that reminds me of the bug I have to solve :o) | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: hehe, which one? | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee just saw that one, and figured she'd fix it. | ||
| mhb | Hobbsee: in my own code ... (a tiny contribution to mountconfig, not even worth mentioning :o) | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: ah. well... | 03:34 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: yeah, I should stop chatting and get back to work :o) | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: heh. chatting is good ;) | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | what bug shall i fix next? hmmm... | 03:38 |
| === toma_ tries a dapper pbuilder create for a third time | ||
| === toma_ is now known as toma | ||
| toma | is there someone on edgy that can check if a package installs? | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | toma: yeah, which one? | 03:43 |
| toma | Hobbsee: http://kubuntu.omat.nl/edgy/ | 03:43 |
| toma | 39K only | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | toma: yep, that's installable | 03:45 |
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| toma | Hobbsee: oki, thanks | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Hello | 03:48 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: hi | 03:48 |
| toma | hi bddebian | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | heya Riddell. you're in luck, i bugged zul, so you wont have to upload for me :P | 03:48 |
| bddebian | Hello toma, Riddell | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | assuming we can make it work | 03:49 |
| Riddell | danimo: I've not looked at replacing arts no, mostly because it would be a patch I'd have to maintain | 03:49 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: so, there you go | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | oh yay. oo.o is still broken. | 03:52 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: yeah | 03:54 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: I am building Qt 4.2 on dapper now. I really should package it though | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | for dapper? why | 03:55 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: no, edgy | 03:55 |
| danimo | sorry | 03:55 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: I can't just take the old dsc file, since the QtDbus stuff would require me to extend it | 03:56 |
| Riddell | danimo: qt-copy is packaged as qt4-x11-kdecopy in edgy, but it's failed to build on the buildds and I'm not sure why | 03:56 |
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| danimo | Riddell: ah, ok | 03:56 |
| danimo | Riddell: now that's not good | 03:56 |
| danimo | Riddell: since it compiled fine for me | 03:56 |
| danimo | or compiles so far | 03:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: is threre a way to see the build logs? | 03:57 |
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| Riddell | it compiled fine for me locally, something about the buildd setup is making it break | 03:58 |
| danimo | ah, ok | 03:58 |
| Riddell | http://librarian.launchpad.net/3643847/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.qt4-x11-kdecopy_4.2.0~svn20060706-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 03:58 |
| danimo | 4.4 MB? *yikes* | 03:58 |
| Riddell | the error will be near the end :) | 03:59 |
| danimo | cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/libQtDBus.so': No such file or directory | 03:59 |
| danimo | yes, so the libQtBus stuff is causing it headaches | 03:59 |
| danimo | Riddell: and applying the patches seems to go wild | 04:00 |
| Riddell | hmm | 04:00 |
| Riddell | so if I just remove that file from the list that need to go into the .debs it should be ok | 04:01 |
| danimo | Riddell: I think the problem is deeper down in the build process | 04:02 |
| danimo | Riddell: because we ultimately need that lib, no? :) | 04:02 |
| Riddell | yeah, it must be missing some dbus dependency | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: when were you wanting another meeting, btw? | 04:06 |
| Riddell | week on wednesday? | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: okay, 2100UTC? | 04:08 |
| === Hobbsee should go to bed, actually. | ||
| Riddell | yeah | 04:08 |
| === Hobbsee nod | ||
| Hobbsee | s | 04:09 |
| === Hobbsee examines what happened to her upload of kdenetwork. didnt you sponsor that for me, Riddell? | ||
| Riddell | I can't remember, what was it for? | 04:10 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: kopete fixes | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: with mdz | 04:11 |
| danimo | bah, konvi crash | 04:11 |
| danimo | Riddell: thanks for taking care about aaa 4 | 04:12 |
| Riddell | it did need some taking care of that | 04:12 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: not too sure, I seem to remember uploading it | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it doesnt seem to be in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kdenetwork/+builds | 04:13 |
| Riddell | Accepted kdenetwork 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.1 (source) | 04:13 |
| Riddell | it must still be in the to be approved queue | 04:13 |
| Riddell | we'll need to poke an ubuntu-archive member | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: want to do it when they're around. i'm going to go to bed.... | 04:14 |
| Riddell | yep | 04:14 |
| === Hobbsee cant see any of them around. | ||
| Hobbsee | but we probably should get that fixed. | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: where can we see the approved queue? | 04:15 |
| Riddell | I don't know if we can | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: we can see new, not sure about approved though. | 04:15 |
| Riddell | this is different from NEW though I think | 04:16 |
| Riddell | it's not in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+queue | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: okay | 04:16 |
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| freeflying|away | Riddell: bug 54522 will you review the patch? | 04:29 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54522 in libx11 "wine under zh_CN.UTF-8 locales performs too slow" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54522 | 04:29 |
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| Sime | mhb: hi | 04:36 |
| mhb | Sime: remember me? :o) | 04:37 |
| mhb | Sime: I started to work on the smbfs -> cifs port, but my samba server was down, so I couldn't test it | 04:38 |
| Sime | mhb: ok | 04:39 |
| mhb | Sime: but it seems to work now | 04:40 |
| Sime | mhb: network browsing inside mountconfig works and you can select a share and it gets the address right etc etc? | 04:41 |
| mhb | Sime: yeah | 04:42 |
| mhb | Sime: the browsing is the same | 04:42 |
| mhb | Sime: it only rewrites the output address | 04:42 |
| Sime | mhb: ok, good | 04:42 |
| mhb | Sime: I'll send you the diff | 04:44 |
| Sime | mhb: good, simon@simonzone.com | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 04:47 |
| mhb | Sime: btw: nobody complained before about the fact that "smbfs" was not present in Kubuntu by default, but was used in mountconfig? | 04:47 |
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| Sime | mhb: nope, | 04:47 |
| danimo | does anyone know a host that deliberately still runs an echo service? | 04:49 |
| Riddell | I don't even know what that is | 04:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: port 7, echo's all input | 04:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: quite a paradise for DoS'es, hence usually disabled | 04:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: but it comes in handy sometimes | 04:51 |
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| mhb | Sime: one moment please | 04:55 |
| pygi | kwwii, hey ;) | 04:55 |
| mhb | Sime: Kubuntu behaves weird when I insert the line through mountconfig | 04:55 |
| kwwii | howdy pygi | 04:56 |
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| pygi | how is you kwwii ? | 05:00 |
| mhb | Sime: it's an interesting problem | 05:00 |
| mhb | Sime: the "cifs" filesystem doesn't accept the "user" option | 05:01 |
| mhb | Sime: because it uses the "user=" option as an alias to "username=" | 05:02 |
| mhb | (at least the documentation suggests that) | 05:02 |
| mhb | Sime: but even "smbfs" refuses to mount directly as an user because: | 05:06 |
| mhb | Sime: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) | 05:06 |
| kwwii | pygi: really busy, unfortunately | 05:08 |
| kwwii | pygi: and you? | 05:08 |
| pygi | kwwii, eh, sorry to hear that :-/ | 05:08 |
| pygi | kwwii, I am good, relaxing a little today | 05:09 |
| pygi | it was a hard week, tho some good things did happen :) | 05:09 |
| kwwii | hehe, lucky you :-) | 05:09 |
| pygi | kwwii, hehe :) | 05:10 |
| pygi | kwwii, http://libburn.pykix.org/wiki :) | 05:13 |
| kwwii | nifty...although I do not have an optical disk | 05:15 |
| pygi | =P | 05:16 |
| === kwwii gets a bite to eat...bbl | ||
| pygi | bon appetit | 05:16 |
| kwwii | thanks :-) | 05:16 |
| Sime | mhb: smbmnt isn't installed suid on kubuntu I'm guessing? | 05:16 |
| mhb | Sime: sure, that's the reason why smbfs won't mount as user | 05:20 |
| mhb | Sime: but cifs won't mount as well | 05:20 |
| Sime | mhb: cifs will work as root still? | 05:21 |
| mhb | Sime: yeah, no problem as root | 05:21 |
| mhb | Sime: or through the Enable/Disable mountconfig dialog | 05:21 |
| mhb | (if you use sudo, of course) | 05:22 |
| Sime | mhb: Does that problem only apply to cifs and smbfs? or do other mount helper programs need suid too? | 05:22 |
| mhb | Sime: cifs and smbfs both don't use the core "mount", but their own mount commands | 05:25 |
| mhb | Sime: mount.cifs and smbmount, I think | 05:25 |
| Sime | mhb: some other file systems use helpers too. | 05:25 |
| mhb | maybe so | 05:27 |
| mhb | Sime: I have only mount.smb and mount.cifs installed, though | 05:28 |
| mhb | Sime: if you can point me to the specific filesystems, I'll check them | 05:28 |
| mhb | Sime: name some that use helpers | 05:28 |
| Sime | mhb: looking on my system, that appears to be all of them. | 05:29 |
| Sime | a storm is coming through here right now | 05:31 |
| mhb | Sime: where are you? | 05:32 |
| Sime | Nijmegen, NL | 05:33 |
| mhb | Sime: I sent you the diff... if there is something wrong, let me know | 05:35 |
| mhb | Sime: I still need to fix the user mounting | 05:37 |
| Sime | mhb: thanks | 05:38 |
| mhb | Sime: no problem | 05:38 |
| Sime | mhb: the whole smbfs+cifs problem affects dapper (you're not using edgy?) | 05:39 |
| mhb | Sime: I have them both | 05:40 |
| mhb | Sime: and Firefox refused to load last week, so I was using dapper | 05:41 |
| mhb | Sime: I'll check it | 05:41 |
| mhb | Sime: I'll be right back | 05:41 |
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| mhb | I'm back (Edgy Eft) | 05:51 |
| mhb | Sime: smbmnt lacks SUID in Edgy, too | 05:52 |
| mhb | Sime: cifs reports: mount error 1 = Operation not permitted | 05:53 |
| Sime | mhb: :-/ I'm not sure if it is worth trying to do something about this in the gui. | 05:56 |
| mhb | Sime: probably not | 06:00 |
| mhb | Sime: the only thing that bothers me is that when I add the line through mountconfig, the KDE media pop-up will appear | 06:01 |
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| mhb | Sime: and when I want to display the folder, it shows an error | 06:02 |
| Sime | mhb: mmmmmm... you mean the "What do you want to do with this disk?" popup? | 06:03 |
| mhb | Sime: that one | 06:03 |
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| mhb | Sime: when I mount it through mountconfig (that works fine), the icon on the desktop doesn't look like it should | 06:06 |
| mhb | Sime: and when I want to access the drive through the icon (note that it's mounted ok), Konqueror displays Could not mount device. | 06:07 |
| mhb | " The reported error was: " | 06:07 |
| mhb | and that's it | 06:07 |
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| mhb | Sime: OK, I'll try to RT(F)M some more :o) | 06:13 |
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| Sime | mhb: I'm just looking at your patch. The line: nmboutput = os.popen("nmblookup "+ parts[0] ,"r") | 06:25 |
| Sime | mhb: can you change that to: | 06:25 |
| Sime | mhb: nmboutput = os.popen(["nmblookup",parts[0] ] ,"r") | 06:26 |
| Sime | mhb: and see if it still works. | 06:26 |
| Sime | mhb: I'm just being paranoid about the security aspects of that line. | 06:26 |
| mhb | Sime: sure | 06:29 |
| Sime | mhb: os.popen() will go through a shell if you're not careful. (-> danger) | 06:30 |
| mhb | Sime: I think I understand | 06:31 |
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| mhb | Sime: TypeError: popen() argument 1 must be string, not list | 06:33 |
| Sime | mhb: weird, the docs say something different. http://docs.python.org/lib/os-newstreams.html | 06:34 |
| mhb | Sime: I'm looking at it too | 06:34 |
| Sime | mhb: "Also, for each of these variants, on Unix, cmd may be a sequence..." | 06:34 |
| mhb | Sime: maybe it's just for the following popen2 ... variants, I dunno | 06:36 |
| mhb | Sime: I'll try that | 06:36 |
| Sime | mhb: there is also the "subprocess" module in Python 2.4. It is a lot more modern (read: sane) | 06:36 |
| mhb | Sime: ok | 06:37 |
| mhb | Sime: I tried to work with the modules that already were there | 06:38 |
| mhb | Sime: should I rewrite the code to use subprocess? | 06:39 |
| Sime | mhb: yeah that is fine. | 06:42 |
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| mhb | Sime|pizza: done :o) but the libref was a bit confusing (I thought I need only "from subprocess import Popen", but I was wrong) | 07:13 |
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| Sime | mhb: I'm back | 08:14 |
| mhb | Sime: I'll send you the version with subprocess | 08:17 |
| mhb | if I read the documentation correctly, it should not call /bin/sh anymore | 08:17 |
| mhb | Sime: sent | 08:24 |
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| bddebian | re | 08:31 |
| Sime | mhb: it looks good | 08:33 |
| mhb | better, at least :o) | 08:34 |
| Sime | mhb: the only problem I can think of is that when people upgrade from dapper to edgy, mountconfig won't understand smbfs in thier /etc/fstab. | 08:35 |
| Sime | mhb: (I don't think that is going to be a big problem). | 08:35 |
| mhb | Sime: so what should I do? | 08:39 |
| mhb | Sime: a warning message stating that smbfs is deprecated in favor of cifs? | 08:40 |
| Sime | mhb: will smbfs work in edgy? | 08:40 |
| mhb | Sime: well, as it worked in Dapper (it is still available as an external package) | 08:47 |
| mhb | Sime: but cifs works even without it | 08:51 |
| Sime | mhb: that's ok. | 08:54 |
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| Sime | mhb: thanks, I just commited your fix to svn! | 09:04 |
| mhb | Sime: that's great | 09:04 |
| mhb | Sime: although the pop-up "What do you want to do" worries me ... | 09:05 |
| mhb | Sime: I'll fix it ASAP | 09:05 |
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| Riddell | arts should be fixed in kde 3.5.4 dapper builds now | 09:45 |
| Riddell | if you install libarts1-akode | 09:45 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: ready for 1.4.2-beta1? ;-) | 09:59 |
| Riddell | blah | 09:59 |
| Riddell | where is it? | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | not yet fetched | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | I'd just wait till you're ready ;-) | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | anyway, gotta start fetching in some minutes | 10:00 |
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| omeow | Let's see if the font problem is fixed... | 10:49 |
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| kwwii | re | 10:50 |
| pygi | yo kwwii :) | 10:50 |
| toma | hey kwwii | 10:52 |
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| kwwii | howdy :-) | 10:54 |
| omeow | Hi. | 10:54 |
| omeow | Still the same problem. =/ | 10:55 |
| omeow | Is there a meta package that lets me re-install everything currently installed? | 10:56 |
| omeow | Maybe that would fix the problem. | 10:56 |
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| Lure | Riddell: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/07/kubuntu-606-lts-excellent-linux.html | 11:07 |
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| omega | Riddell, is there any way I can test the packages you patched with the xinerama improvements on dapper? | 11:09 |
| omega | If so, then I'll just re-install dapper tomorrow and test it on that. | 11:09 |
| omega | Edgy is a bit too on the edge. | 11:09 |
| omega | :) | 11:09 |
| Riddell | omega: it's only in edgy | 11:14 |
| Riddell | ooh, Lure's back :) | 11:14 |
| Lure | Riddell: yep - still recovering my mailbox after two week vacation... ;-) | 11:15 |
| omega | Riddell ar, that's a shame. | 11:18 |
| omega | Guess I'll have to stalk some people in order to get my font problem fixed. | 11:18 |
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| kwwii | time for bed, see you all tomorrow | 12:07 |
| omega | Bye. :) | 12:07 |
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