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JohnFlux_	BluesKaj: use k3b anyway :)	12:09
Goop2	my screen resolution is 1280x854, but its zoomed in to 640x480.. anyone know how to fix that?	12:09
JohnFlux_	Goop2: press alt-f2 and type "krandrtray"	12:10
BluesKaj	no JohnFlux_, I see cdroast in the media list but when I launch it a dailog box tells me: "no root configuration found or not readable. The superuser mustand configure xcdroast first !	12:11
JohnFlux_	Goop2: that will give you an applet thing in the systray	12:11
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JohnFlux_	BluesKaj: dunno. what's wrong with k3b? :)	12:11
BluesKaj	super user must start and...	12:11
JohnFlux_	Goop2: that should let you change the resolution	12:11
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Goop2	JohnFlux: its not the resolution, its zoomed in	12:12
BluesKaj	dunno . I . djust like to see what it does :)	12:12
JohnFlux_	Goop2: oh. press ctrl+alt+plus	12:12
JohnFlux_	the plus on the numpad	12:12
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JohnFlux_	Goop2: press alt-f2 then type in xcdroast, but don't press enter	12:12
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Darko8472	I have a question, but I'm not in Kubuntu right now - it's on a second HD for my laptop, and I swap them out as and when needed... I can't seem to get my wifi working at all. Laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1300 (yeah, I know, Dell), with a Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card. I've tried manually editing the SSID/gateway etc, but it doesn't seem to want to enable :/ Any ideas? Bearing in mind I can't test them right away	12:12
JohnFlux_	Goop2: click options, and then chose user, and run as root	12:12
JohnFlux_	Goop2: oh wait no	12:12
JohnFlux_	Goop2: press alt-f2 and then type in ksudo xcdroast	12:13
JohnFlux_	and press enter	12:13
Goop2	johnflux: it says it cant run	12:14
JohnFlux_	doh	12:14
JohnFlux_	kdesu xcdroast	12:14
JohnFlux_	sorry	12:14
Goop2	johnflux: ctrl-alt-+ wont do anything either	12:14
JohnFlux_	Goop2: it doesn't change the resolution at all?	12:15
Goop2	nope	12:15
JohnFlux_	Goop2: can you use the console?	12:15
Goop2	johnflux: konsole? yeah	12:16
JohnFlux_	i'm sure you can do this from the gui, but I've never looked	12:16
JohnFlux_	it's easier for me to do via konsole ;)	12:16
Goop2	ok :D	12:16
JohnFlux_	Goop2: run konsole, then run: joe /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:16
JohnFlux_	Goop2: run konsole, then run: editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:17
JohnFlux_	i don't think it comes with joe :)	12:17
geneo93	nano you mean	12:17
Garoboldy	instead of using the apt gui. are we able to search and add repo addresses. or is it isafer to use the gui?	12:17
Goop2	hmmm.. Im thinking I should prolly put "jed" in instead? :P	12:17
JohnFlux_	Goop2: nano, editor, jed whatever you like	12:17
JohnFlux_	oh waits	12:18
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JohnFlux_	argh	12:18
Goop2	hehe	12:18
JohnFlux_	Goop2: sudo editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:18
JohnFlux_	rather :-)	12:18
Goop2	ok	12:18
JohnFlux_	Garoboldy: you can add them in the /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you want	12:18
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BluesKaj	configged xcdroast in synaptic	12:18
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JohnFlux_	Goop2: then go to the Section "Screen"	12:19
BluesKaj	mostly for scsi drives by the look of it	12:19
JohnFlux_	Goop2: what resolutions does it have?	12:19
Goop2	johnflux: it says command not found	12:19
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JohnFlux_	Goop2: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:20
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JohnFlux_	Goop2: that should work	12:20
Goop2	ok I was thinkin I was suposed to put in my account name :P	12:20
JohnFlux_	:-)	12:20
Lacerta	what the..? my internet just started working	12:21
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Garoboldy	johnFlux_, TY for the file location. is there a proper standard or are we able to just add the address. Im seeing deb before most of them and dapper/main	12:21
Goop2	johnflux: I dont see "screen"	12:22
JohnFlux_	Goop2: if you use the up and down arrows to scroll around, you should see a: Section "Screen"	12:23
JohnFlux_	Goop2: what video card do you have?	12:23
Goop2	johnflux: NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX	12:24
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JohnFlux_	do you have the nvidia driver?	12:24
JohnFlux_	!nvidia	12:24
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto	12:24
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Goop2	I wouldent know realy... Im new to Linux	12:25
Lord_Athur	hi all	12:25
JohnFlux_	Goop2: no problem	12:25
Goop2	probabaly not I would asume	12:25
JohnFlux_	Goop2: the problem here is that nvidia do not allow us to ship with their drivers	12:25
JohnFlux_	Goop2: it's a really big problem	12:26
JohnFlux_	Goop2: but, the good news is that it's easy to install them :)	12:26
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Goop2	johnflux: ok good :)	12:26
VooDoo	hello	12:26
JohnFlux_	just close that konsole	12:26
uranther	will volume groups erase all the stuff i already have on my harddrives?	12:26
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JohnFlux_	uranther: if you have to ask, i wouldn't play about it	12:27
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Goop2	johnflux: klozed	12:27
JohnFlux_	Goop2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia	12:27
JohnFlux_	;)	12:27
uranther	:/	12:27
JohnFlux_	uranther: what do you want to do?	12:27
Lacerta	what does this "timestamp too far in the future:" mean and why does it prevent me using some apps?	12:27
uranther	i have 3 harddrives, 2 of which have data on them that i want to keep	12:28
uranther	and i just noticed this volume group thing that you can do	12:28
JohnFlux_	Lacerta: what time does your computer think it is? :)	12:28
Lacerta	sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 30 04:14:41 2006	12:28
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Goop2	uranther: 3 hard drives?! thats possible??	12:28
Lacerta	the clock is 1:28	12:28
uranther	Goop2: actually i have 4	12:29
Goop2	uranther: thats awsome :D	12:29
edwardf	i just installed kubuntu, and want to add packages, but in adept installer the packages i want show up as grey icons and are unselectable; why is this?	12:29
uranther	:D	12:29
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JohnFlux_	Goop2: you can have 2 hard drives per ide channel. most motherboards have 2 or 3 channels	12:29
JohnFlux_	Goop2: "hard drive or cd/dvd drive"	12:29
Goop2	ooooh	12:30
Goop2	I have a dvd and cdrw	12:30
JohnFlux_	Lacerta: hmm dunno	12:30
Goop2	and 2 ide cables	12:30
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psynth	iltaa	12:32
uranther	i have an PCI IDE controller card..	12:33
uranther	i could have 3 more harddrives	12:33
uranther	but i have no where to put them	12:33
Goop2	wow..	12:33
Lacerta	iltaa psynth	12:33
Goop2	that would be alot of space	12:33
psynth	i need some help with mounting	12:33
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Goop2	johnflux: does Drake have synaptic?	12:34
psynth	i get this error message when trying to mount a fat32 partition: mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab	12:34
uranther	add it then :)	12:35
psynth	uh, im such a newbie, could you be a bit more specific ?	12:35
uranther	edit your /etc/fstab file and add /dev/hdb5	12:36
psynth	And i really tried to find this information in the web and manuals with no luck so far	12:36
uranther	make it similar to your other hdd	12:36
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Goop2	johnflux?	12:37
Martijn81	Goop2: yeah dapper has Synaptec, but kubuntu dapper comes with adept standard so you might want to check that out first	12:37
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Martijn81	* synaptic	12:38
edwardf	i tried to install synaptic (because i like it better) through adept installer, but it adept shows it as a grey, unselectable icon	12:39
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Goop2	never thought of that.. its letting me install it	12:40
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San	hey	12:42
San	could someone point me in the direction on how to install a theme in kubuntu please?	12:43
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ubuntu	selam	12:45
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HAMMERSWIFE	hi all ubuntu user here ya know the file browser where it shows file system,etc	12:51
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HAMMERSWIFE	whats the path in there to get to the xchat folders,etc	12:51
HAMMERSWIFE	no one in ubuntu will tell me and been tehre half hour	12:52
crimsun	what do you mean by "xchat folders"?	12:52
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HAMMERSWIFE	i wanna get to the d/l folder	12:52
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: ~/.xchat2	12:52
HAMMERSWIFE	ussing file syste,	12:52
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ubuntu	HAMMERSWIFE: h'	12:52
ubuntu	hi	12:52
HAMMERSWIFE	hi	12:52
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: So for example, /home/hammer/.xchat2/downloads	12:52
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ubuntu	Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: PentiumIII(Katmai) at 501 MHz (1003 bogomips), , RAM: 303/313MB, 95 proc's, 14.0min up	12:53
HAMMERSWIFE	exactly	12:53
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Assuming that 'hammer' is your system users name	12:53
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HAMMERSWIFE	but cant find it in browser	12:53
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: It's a hidden directory	12:53
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Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Anything that starts with a . is a hidden directory, so therefore ~/.xchat2 is hidden	12:53
HAMMERSWIFE	i seletced view hidden files	12:53
HAMMERSWIFE	:/	12:53
dr_willis_	odd... my mouse is all moving sluggishly	12:54
ubuntu	02:03:32 up 15 min, 7 users, load average: 0.32, 0.57, 0.55	12:54
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Have you installed Xchat, and have you used it atleast once ?	12:54
dr_willis_	hidden is a relative term. :P	12:54
HAMMERSWIFE	yes im on it now	12:54
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Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Then it's there, trust me	12:54
ubuntu	Sun Jul 30 02:03:51 UTC 2006	12:54
HAMMERSWIFE	its all i use	12:54
edwardf	is there a way to 'clone' user settings (i want to create multiple users with the same theme and the same basic desktop settings and panels)	12:54
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: In a konsole type: cd ~/.xchat2	12:54
HAMMERSWIFE	i know it is but i wanna get to it so i can grab my d/l out of the folder	12:54
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Then type: ls	12:54
slow-motion	n8	12:54
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: You using Konqueror ?	12:55
HAMMERSWIFE	fire fox	12:55
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HAMMERSWIFE	where would i find that 1 ya mentioned?	12:55
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Ummmm firefox isn't a file manager	12:55
dr_willis_	:)	12:56
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Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Hit alt-f2 and type konqueror or it should be on your panel or even in your menus	12:56
HAMMERSWIFE	guess i dont have it	12:56
HAMMERSWIFE	ok so how do i get it?	12:56
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: You using KDE ?	12:56
HAMMERSWIFE	i think	12:56
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Or is KDE installed ?	12:56
Hawkwind	You think ?	12:56
HAMMERSWIFE	i believe so	12:57
Hawkwind	If you are sitting at the computer I surely hope you know what you're using	12:57
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HAMMERSWIFE	yes kde desktop	12:57
dr_willis_	is there a K in the start menu button? :P	12:57
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Then you have konqueror installed I'm sure	12:57
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: sudo apt-get install konqueror <~~~Type that from a konsole	12:57
HAMMERSWIFE	it didnt pop up on run command\	12:57
sophie_	dr_willis_: no there seems to be a figure with two sticks opposite at 45 degrees	12:58
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HAMMERSWIFE	wasnt installed getting it now	12:58
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HAMMERSWIFE	explains why couldnt run it	12:58
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ben_	hi guys	01:00
HAMMERSWIFE	konqueror is installed ok wht to type in for my xchat?	01:01
ben_	its linuxd00d from the ubuntu forum	01:01
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linuxd00d	Hey	01:02
dr_willis_	it should show up in the menus now.	01:02
linuxd00d	hey guys, i need a bit of noob help	01:02
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Same thing we told you earlier	01:02
dr_willis_	Oh?	01:02
dr_willis_	!ask	01:02
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	01:03
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Hawkwind	dr_willis_: But......But.....I want to ask if I can ask first, just to make sure I can ask before I ask and get in trouble :P	01:03
linuxd00d	:S	01:03
linuxd00d	XD	01:04
dr_willis_	Hawkwind, asking about asking to ask - is ok.	01:04
dr_willis_	:P	01:04
dr_willis_	asking about A/S/L is a big NO NO. however	01:04
dr_willis_	:P	01:04
dr_willis_	S/A/L ?	01:04
dr_willis_	:)	01:04
ubuntu	Current weather for Ankara / Etimesgut : Clear skies, Temperature: 22C, Pressure: 1012 hPa, Wind: 9 km/h ENE	01:04
linuxd00d	anyways i just installed ubuntu about 3-6 hours ago	01:04
HAMMERSWIFE	ok found what i wanted	01:04
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HAMMERSWIFE	where do i find koqueror so i can paste to desktop	01:05
linuxd00d	and i would like to login as root but i dun kno the password, i left the install to do its own thing in text mode	01:05
ubuntu	linuxd00d: i little a speak english	01:05
Hawkwind	HAMMERSWIFE: Click on the Home icon	01:05
Hawkwind	linuxd00d: sudo	01:05
linuxd00d	sudo	01:06
Hawkwind	linuxd00d: There is no root account by default, it's all done with sudo	01:06
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linuxd00d	so could u give me a little tutorial	01:06
Hawkwind	linuxd00d: You can however create a traditional root account real quick by typing: sudo passwd	01:06
dr_willis_	sudo command to run as root	01:06
Hawkwind	Tutorial on what ?	01:06
dr_willis_	!sudo	01:06
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	01:06
linuxd00d	cheers guys	01:06
Hawkwind	If you want something done as root, type 'sudo' before the command. </tutorial>	01:07
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BluesKaj	su su sudio :)	01:07
dr_willis_	sudo sudo su	01:07
dr_willis_	:)	01:07
dr_willis_	sudo cd	01:07
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BluesKaj	phil collins drum phrase	01:08
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dr_willis_	But take a Look at him now....	01:08
dr_willis_	Hes just standing there....	01:08
linuxd00d	oh	01:08
BluesKaj	not a fan by any means dr_willis_	01:08
linuxd00d	i understand	01:08
dr_willis_	Old and Bald.. and :) thats about all i can think of.. Heh	01:08
dr_willis_	All these old singers look in VERY bad shape.	01:08
BluesKaj	that's me too , but I still aint afan :)	01:09
linuxd00d	so basically ubuntu doesnt want people to F*^k things up	01:09
HAMMERSWIFE	heck with it saved alt f2 on txt to access it	01:09
HAMMERSWIFE	long as i can get into it dont matter	01:09
HAMMERSWIFE	whats the best zipping utility for ubuntu?	01:09
BluesKaj	there's lots of good help here linuxd00d ...just gotta have some patience :)	01:09
linuxd00d	cheers man	01:10
linuxd00d	well everyone	01:10
ubuntu	linuxd00d: i dont	01:10
dr_willis_	Many of Ubuntu 'oddities' are done for security reasons.	01:10
linuxd00d	thats good	01:10
linuxd00d	well at least i cant break stuff	01:10
dr_willis_	some are just done - because the devs got confused. :)	01:10
linuxd00d	lol	01:10
linuxd00d	i kno very basic stuff	01:11
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linuxd00d	i done about 1-2 months of Enterprise Redhat Linux Course work	01:11
linuxd00d	soooo hard	01:11
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linuxd00d	and it doesnt help that have worked with windows basically all my life	01:13
linuxd00d	i just got sick of Crashes and BSOD	01:13
wckdkl0wn	what site do you all recommend for getting kde themes?	01:13
linuxd00d	use google	01:14
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linuxd00d	i have trouble installing themes on Gnome guys	01:14
wckdkl0wn	reason for me asking is because i am using kdm theme manager and it doesnt recognise any of the themes i download	01:15
wckdkl0wn	says they arent valid	01:15
linuxd00d	yeah	01:15
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linuxd00d	Yeah people i cant install themes for Gnome it says file not valid	01:18
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MuJ	gnome..	01:19
linuxd00d	yeah	01:19
MuJ	you know tje K n Kubuntu stands for KDE?	01:19
MuJ	the*	01:19
linuxd00d	i know im using ubuntu	01:20
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MuJ	yeah.. and this is #kubuntu	01:20
linuxd00d	good point	01:20
linuxd00d	sorry	01:21
linuxd00d	bye all	01:21
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MuJ	0_o	01:21
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markc	anyone bumped into the edgy xorg ABI mismatch problem ?	01:23
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phildini	hi. does anyone know of a way to get the wireless manager in kubuntu to auto-connect to networks it already knows?	01:24
yorick	hi	01:24
Agios	I am avoiding all things edgy right now	01:24
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markc	Agios: yeah, I might have to reboot into gentoo for a week or 2 by the looks of it, t'was fine for me up until the last update	01:26
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mjeung	I have this really crappy computer that I'm running ubuntu on. Does anyone happen to know of a good resource I can find that'll help me tune the performance up a little?	01:28
mjeung	or if there are any GUI features that I can disable to eke out some more speed..	01:28
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jmichaelx	ok i am staying out of #ubuntu lol	01:29
Goop2	johnflux: still here?	01:29
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Goop2	johnflux_	01:30
dr_willis_	mjeung, use very mininal window manager for a start.	01:30
Goop2	:(	01:30
mjeung	ah. is that an application, or are you just saying to use very few applications at a time..? =)	01:31
simian__	if i remember correctly you need to install something in order to play radio streams on amarok?	01:31
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h3sp4wn	mjeung: Use fluxbox	01:31
BluesKaj	fluxbox?	01:32
phildini	hi. does anyone know of a way to get the wireless manager in kubuntu to auto-connect to networks it already knows?	01:32
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Goop2	anybody know how to fix a zoomed screen? its not a small resolution, its zoomed	01:32
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dr_willis_	Goop2, some game started and screweed up?	01:33
simian__	what do you need to install to play radio streams in amarok?	01:33
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markc	bah, gentoo will take 2 days to recompile everything, thank goodness for livecds	01:33
Goop2	dr_willis: actualy it happened when I rebooted	01:33
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dr_willis_	odd.	01:33
BluesKaj	try streamtuner , but it uses xmms as default player	01:33
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Goop2	quite	01:34
Goop2	Ive tried quite a few things, but I couldent figure it out	01:36
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jmichaelx	is anyone in here using edgy and a broadcom wireless card?	01:39
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plbgnr	hello, I need to use remote filesystem as local, but it is not needed to use sshfs (client box has low performance) what can i use? (server - dapper, client breezy)	01:43
erov	nfs ?	01:43
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plbgnr	erov:thanks ...I heard about it but wasn't sure if it is what i need	01:44
Hawkwind	jmichaelx: Ask that in #Ubuntu+1 as there are many more edgy users there I'm sure	01:45
dr_willis_	but it is not needed to use sshfs?	01:46
dr_willis_	Clarify what that means exactly. :)	01:46
jmichaelx	Hawkwind: ty	01:46
dr_willis_	could use samba, or nfs, or hmmm...	01:46
h3sp4wn	shfs is pretty easy to setup	01:47
h3sp4wn	just one module to build with module-assistant	01:48
erov	but uses more resources	01:48
dr_willis_	i used that FUSE stuff with ssh, and samba, and other neat things. :P	01:48
dr_willis_	fun to play with	01:48
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h3sp4wn	You cannot route nfs without using a vpn (or at least didn't used to be able to)	01:49
h3sp4wn	using nbd (network block device) over a vpn might be interesting (just acts like any other local disk then)	01:50
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psynth	unable to playback mp3 files, or any audio for that matter, but the system sounds do work ? have installed the mpeg libs. any ideas ?	01:51
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plbgnr	h3sp4wn_:I want for example this: on server is avi file, and without copying it whole to client I want to play it on client pc	01:52
dr_willis_	thats now mounting it whth samba or nfs would work.	01:53
dr_willis_	using the gnome or kde samba browsers would however download it first. then play it.	01:53
Goop2	anybody know how to fix a zoomed screen?	01:53
dr_willis_	not sure about their ftp/fish/other meta-filesystem browsers	01:53
dr_willis_	Goop2, try just rerunning the X config tools?	01:54
h3sp4wn	plbgnr: When you say remote you mean across the internet quite far away ?	01:54
dr_willis_	Goop2, or that menu item that changes the res under kde.	01:54
plbgnr	h3sp4wn:lan	01:54
Goop2	dr_willis: its not resolution, the screen is actualy zoomed in.. like a.. magnifying glass	01:54
dr_willis_	so if ya move the mouse - the screen pans around?	01:55
Goop2	yeah	01:55
psynth	unable to playback mp3 files, or any audio for that matter, but the system sounds do work ? have installed the mpeg libs. any ideas ?	01:55
dr_willis_	Thats how it works :) well used to work years ago.	01:55
dr_willis_	you got a larger screen defined, then the monitor is some how able to show (so the pc thinks) so its giving ya a moveable viewport on a larger virtual screen	01:56
dr_willis_	Thats how we used to do high-res on low end hardware. :)	01:56
h3sp4wn	plbgnr: If I was going to do what you want to I would probably mess around with gfs (but only because I think nfs and samba are pretty dull)	01:56
markc	psynth: libxine-extracodecs perhaps ?	01:56
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Goop2	dr_willis: I saw something about that while trying to figure out how to do dual moniters.. I skipped it though cause it wasnt wat I was lookin for :P	01:57
Goop2	dr_willis: weird thing is.. that was earlier today too	01:57
dr_willis_	heh.	01:57
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Goop2	dr_willis: did I maybe mess it up while looking at the dual screen thing?	01:59
Goop2	cause it wasnt like this before	02:00
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dr_willis_	no clue there.. i always keep backups of my x confgs :P	02:01
dr_willis_	if for some reason its thinking the monitor can only handle 600x800 or whateger.. and it asks for a 12000x12000 screen. :P ya get a scrolly virtual display.	02:01
dr_willis_	Used to be the 'IN" thing to use. :P years ago	02:02
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h3sp4wn	But at that time anyone using it seriously would have a sun or sgi with a nice big monitor	02:03
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h3sp4wn	(i.e for any type of work)	02:03
dr_willis_	we had them. :P but wanted MORE!	02:03
dr_willis_	:)	02:03
dr_willis_	big huge greyscale monitors.	02:03
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dr_willis_	and a scanner tablet the size of a ping pong table.	02:03
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Goop2	LOL	02:03
dr_willis_	and a plotter that could draw on 4x8 ft sheets of paper	02:03
dr_willis_	Doing a lot of Topo Maps.	02:04
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wckdkl0wn	what program other then kaffeine can i use to play avi and mpeg files?	02:05
h3sp4wn	codeine	02:05
\|\|Trayer\|\|	Is KDevelop installed by default on kubuntu, and if not how would one get it?	02:05
markc	apt-get install kdevelop	02:06
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	It says no installation candidate	02:07
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markc	\|\|Trayer\|\|: I've just reinstalled dapper, hang on a sec, I'll check	02:09
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	markc: Kk	02:09
Goop2	is there a way to have a custom resolution? the big one they try to make me use is about 100 pixels bigger than I can use I think	02:10
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	Goop2: In your videocard config file I know you can set it (For me it was in xorg.conf)	02:11
h3sp4wn	Goop2: Just make a custom modeline using the generator (google modeline generator)	02:11
h3sp4wn	Goop2: put it into the Monitor section of xorg.conf (specify it directly at the bottom i.e 1280x1024@60 (or whatever the name of the modeline is)	02:12
Goop2	where would I find that file?	02:12
_susana	hola	02:12
\|\|Trayer\|\|	/etc	02:13
\|\|Trayer\|\|	Goop2: */etc/X11/xorg.conf is the path	02:13
Goop2	ok	02:13
\|\|Trayer\|\|	Goop2: I think, I could double check	02:13
h3sp4wn	!fixvideoresolution	02:14
ubotu	x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto	02:14
\|\|Trayer\|\|	Does anyone have news on how I can get KDevelop?	02:14
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markc	\|\|Trayer\|\|: shoot, yer right, no sign of it	02:16
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farous	kdevelop3 is in the repos	02:17
farous	!info kdevelop3	02:17
ubotu	kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB	02:17
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	It's in the repos? I did a check and couldn't find it. I just downloaded it off of http://www.kdevelop.org/ (The .debs)	02:18
farous	\|\|Trayer\|\|: it is in universe you might need to enable the extra repos	02:19
farous	!easysource > \|\|Trayer\|\|	02:19
\|\|Trayer\|\|	farous: I have multiverse and universe	02:19
farous	\|\|Trayer\|\|: and i just searched for kdevelop3 and it shows there	02:19
markc	farous: I just checked and it's not there and what ubotu is pointing at is for breezy, I think\	02:19
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farous	perhaps you need another mirror	02:19
farous	give me a min to update my repos again	02:20
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jeppelelle	join #ubuntu -se	02:20
markc	I have a fresh install, just added universe and multiverse and apt-cache search develop shows nothing	02:20
\|\|Trayer\|\|	markc: I'd just get the debs off the official http://www.kdevelop.org/ http mirror. Worked like a charm ^^	02:21
jeppelelle	how i get too the swedish channel ?	02:21
farous	i have it in universe dapper kdevelop3	02:21
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farous	and just updated the repos	02:21
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farous	markc: did you sudo apt-get update	02:22
farous	to update your sources before you search	02:22
markc	jeppelelle: /join	02:22
markc	farous: yes	02:22
jeppelelle	It doesent work	02:23
farous	markc: that is strange for i can see them in the repos check packages.ubuntu.com and you will find them too	02:23
markc	apt-get update ; apt-cache search kdevelop = nothing (with universe and multiverse added)	02:23
jeppelelle	can some one help me get steam working, i have installed it but how i hopen it ?	02:23
farous	markc either you have a bad mirror or you did not enable universe properly	02:23
farous	markc: use the pastebin and let me have a look at your sources.list file	02:24
\|\|Trayer\|\|	markc: Farous' is definitly right. Turns out my sources.list had universe spellt univers (oops ^^;) It's appearing now	02:24
markc	farous: I've changed mirrors and updating again.. like I say, a fresh install for me so I might have something wrong	02:24
farous	tis is a truely nice automatic source generation page	02:25
farous	!easysource	02:25
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	02:25
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farous	this is for the multimedia packages and property packages too such as realplayer and libdvdcss2	02:26
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	I don't like the source-o-matic! So what if it woulda spelt universe right and I didn't! It just makes me look stupid ; )	02:28
farous	\|\|Trayer\|\|: :)	02:28
az_	hi all	02:29
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az_	i am getting an "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166" error when running 'kdesu adept'	02:30
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jmichaelx	!wifi	02:33
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:33
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BluesKaj	!fmradio	02:35
ubotu	I know nothing about fmradio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	02:35
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h3sp4wn	! info kdevelop	02:38
h3sp4wn	!info kdevelop3	02:38
ubotu	kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB	02:38
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markc	wow, so a fresh install these days require nearly 200mb of updates!!	02:39
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h3sp4wn	Sometime it makes you think of all the useless cd's that have been sent out	02:41
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soulrider	hi everyone, i need some pro help :-/	02:42
soulrider	ASAP	02:42
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archangel_	is there much difference between the 32 and 64 bit versions of Kubuntu?	02:42
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soulrider	i think allt he pros are AFK :P	02:43
archangel_	HA yeah	02:43
archangel_	maybe so	02:43
soulrider	i think my HD died	02:43
soulrider	and i need something to chek it under linux	02:43
soulrider	but i dont know what to use	02:44
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soulrider	besides, its NTFS	02:44
soulrider	!ntfs	02:44
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse	02:44
archangel_	soulrider: does it boot?	02:44
BluesKaj	archangel_, I used both ,prefer the 32bit , less probs and more programs work	02:44
soulrider	thats the thing	02:44
soulrider	it does boot	02:44
markc	soulrider: badblocks MAY work on ntfs	02:44
soulrider	but ti makes weird noises	02:44
jmichaelx	what does it mean if sudo modpobe ndiswrapper does nothing?	02:44
soulrider	and sometimes it just locks up	02:44
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BluesKaj	soulrider, GParted	02:45
archangel_	BluesKaj: yeah, thats the issue I'm having	02:45
soulrider	what i wanna do is scan the sectors	02:45
soulrider	i dont thinkt he formatting matters	02:45
soulrider	but i dunno	02:45
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soulrider	!badblocks	02:45
ubotu	I know nothing about badblocks - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	02:45
archangel_	BluesKaj: flash only a 32 bit program	02:45
markc	soulrider: use badblocks from a shell	02:45
soulrider	im a bit newbie :P	02:45
soulrider	how do i do that? :/	02:45
BluesKaj	there are several others as well, archangel_	02:45
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markc	soulrider: are you now booted onto the drive you eant to check ?	02:46
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Goop2	hmmm... trying to mess with xorg.conf.. it wont let me save	02:46
soulrider	im using the live CD	02:46
archangel_	BluesKaj: I guess i should do it now or never	02:46
markc	soulrider: okay, open up konsole, sudo -i	02:47
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BluesKaj	archangel_, yeah, I had to reinstall from scratch ...it became too frustrating trying to make 64bit work	02:47
soulrider	ok,	02:47
soulrider	whatd oes that do ?	02:47
markc	soulrider: do you know where your drive is .. like /dev/hda ?	02:48
_bbeck	Goop2: What do you mean? What's the it?	02:48
soulrider	i didnt mount it	02:48
soulrider	i mean, tis connected but i dont think i can see it	02:48
markc	soulrider: no, don't mount it	02:48
soulrider	its NTFS	02:48
BluesKaj	that was my experience , archangel_	02:48
markc	soulrider: ls -l /dev/hd*	02:48
Goop2	Im trying to fix my resolution, but I can save the xorg.conf file from KATE	02:48
soulrider	please abre with me, i know its frustrating but im still learning :P	02:49
_bbeck	You have to edit the xorg.conf file as root.	02:49
Goop2	_bbeck: thats what I thought.. how do I get to root?	02:49
soulrider	i se hda, hda1, hda2 and hda5	02:49
soulrider	brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 0 Jul 29 21:36 /dev/hda	02:49
soulrider	brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 1 Jul 29 21:36 /dev/hda1	02:49
soulrider	brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 2 Jul 29 21:36 /dev/hda2	02:49
soulrider	brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 5 Jul 29 21:36 /dev/hda5	02:49
Goop2	_bbeck: alt-f2?	02:50
_bbeck	I think you can press alt+f2 then type kdesu kate	02:50
markc	soulrider: assuning the ntfs partition is on your first IDE drive then you can "cfdisk /dev/hda" to see the partitions, then q for quit	02:50
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soulrider	whats cfdisk ?	02:50
markc	soulrider" it's probably /dev/hda1	02:50
soulrider	and its the only hard drive that is connected	02:50
soulrider	i typed what you said and got	02:51
markc	cfdisk /dev/hda ... and it'll show you what the partition types are... it's a shell based apartitioner	02:51
soulrider	FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition begins after end-of-disk	02:51
soulrider	Press any key to exit cfdisk	02:51
soulrider	i wrote:	02:51
soulrider	root@ubuntu:~# cfdisk /dev/hda1	02:51
markc	soulrider: no cfdisk /dev/hda	02:51
Goop2	_bbeck: would you know how to refresh to change the resolution?	02:52
soulrider	yay, it shows 2 partitions	02:52
soulrider	my two NTFS partitions	02:52
soulrider	of the same HD	02:52
markc	soulrider: does it say which one is ntfs, or not ext3 ?	02:52
soulrider	both say NTFS	02:53
markc	soulrider: oh, both partitions are ntfs... are they hda1 and hda5 ?	02:53
soulrider	hda1 sais primary and hda5 sais logical	02:53
soulrider	yes	02:53
soulrider	and my Hd just amde the most horrible noise :-/	02:53
markc	right, badblocks /dev/hda1	02:54
_bbeck	Goop2: Honestly, the last time I changed resolutions I did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and let the debian configuration tool guide me through.	02:54
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soulrider	uhm	02:55
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soulrider	its like the cnosole its wokring on soemthing	02:55
soulrider	th HD light went on	02:55
soulrider	and then off	02:55
markc	soulrider: if it's going to die it's going to die	02:55
soulrider	and now its on agan :/	02:55
soulrider	i know	02:55
soulrider	but tis not that old	02:55
soulrider	2 or 3 years probably	02:55
soulrider	and if it does im so gonna die too :P	02:55
soulrider	when will this be done?	02:56
markc	can you copy it somewhere, like onto another drive in the same machine ?	02:56
soulrider	nope, this hard drive is 120 GB adn my other hard drive is 30 :-/	02:56
soulrider	i need to copy around 90Gb of data	02:56
soulrider	and i dont think my dad has that much capacity on his other computer either	02:57
soulrider	how do i know if badblocks is working or if its done ?	02:57
markc	sad, if it's important stuff then you might be better turning it off altogether and wait till you get another drive, or another computer networked	02:58
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soulrider	i mean tis not that important	02:58
soulrider	i got all my programmign stuff on the other hard drive	02:58
soulrider	but its lots of things i downlaoded	02:58
soulrider	and i know i wont be able to get again	02:58
soulrider	funny thing is that im gettign another comp next weekend	02:59
soulrider	and i was gonna copy everything to another drive	02:59
soulrider	and this happens.... perfect timing... .	02:59
markc	there are some flags for badblocks to show more info... control-c then try again with badblocks -v /dev/hda1	03:00
soulrider	control c wont do anything	03:00
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soulrider	and it doesnt seem to be working on my HD	03:01
markc	soulrider: it's probably locked up on some bad blocks	03:01
soulrider	great!	03:01
soulrider	how do i shut it doen ?	03:01
soulrider	just press the cross ont he console ?	03:02
markc	you might have to reboot... sorry, the -v would have shown what it was doing right now	03:02
soulrider	its allright	03:02
soulrider	thanks a LOT ofr the help	03:02
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soulrider	uhm, i got badblocks: Permission denied while trying to determine device size	03:03
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markc	soulrider: badblocks -h and man badblocks gives some more info	03:03
soulrider	i think i gotta reboot	03:04
markc	soulrider: perhaps your drive is providing faulty info... seeing it's having a near death experience	03:04
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soulrider	oh crap	03:05
soulrider	k, im gonna reboot, ill be back in a few secs :P	03:05
markc	soulrider: try and use another computer until you get your new one and then you'll have some chance of rescuing your data	03:06
soulrider	dont you move =D	03:06
soulrider	kk	03:06
soulrider	brb	03:06
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Lunar_Raven	is kubuntu edgy much different than dapper yet?	03:12
Lunar_Raven	:P	03:12
Lunar_Raven	i'm considering trying it	03:12
Lunar_Raven	out of boredom	03:12
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farous	Lunar_Raven: check chroot	03:13
farous	!chroot	03:13
ubotu	I know nothing about chroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	03:13
farous	!dapper	03:13
ubotu	dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"	03:13
farous	so they removed the old link	03:13
Lunar_Raven	o.o	03:13
Lunar_Raven	!edgy	03:13
ubotu	edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule	03:14
dr_willis_	!the meaning of life	03:14
ubotu	I know nothing about the meaning of life - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	03:14
dr_willis_	:)	03:14
farous	Lunar_Raven: do you know how to use chroot	03:14
farous	dr_willis_: :)	03:14
Lunar_Raven	i've never needed to use it	03:14
geneo93	!monty python	03:14
ubotu	I know nothing about monty python - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	03:14
dr_willis_	mount newroot /mnt/whever	03:14
Lunar_Raven	have you tried man chroot?	03:14
Lunar_Raven	o.0	03:14
dr_willis_	chroot /mnt/whever	03:14
Lunar_Raven	oh wait you meant for me	03:15
Lunar_Raven	lol	03:15
farous	:) so you can chroot to edgy no hastle if you want	03:15
dr_willis_	its used as part of the Gentoo Install method. :)	03:15
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Lunar_Raven	ohhh	03:15
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JohnFlux_	what's edgy's release date btw?	03:15
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dr_willis_	whenits done. :P	03:15
farous	dr_willis_: nice so yo can play with whatever distro you want	03:15
dr_willis_	farous, better to just use multi booting. :P	03:16
scabootssca	how would i change folder permissions so anyone can edit a certin folder not just root?	03:16
farous	dr_willis_: not for just checking the packages. without kernel or module hastle :)	03:16
h3sp4wn	Lunar_Raven: dchroot or ideally schroot would be best (for it to be transparant)	03:16
dr_willis_	farous, and some times it even works! :P	03:16
farous	:)	03:17
farous	schroot last i checked was cchroot think i need to google again	03:17
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markc	there ya go, keeping /home on a different partition works, I just installed dapper on a different partiton and remounted my "old" edgy home partition and all my settings are intact	03:21
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soulrider	im back	03:26
soulrider	mark, are you still there ?	03:26
soulrider	!lan	03:28
ubotu	I know nothing about lan - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	03:28
soulrider	!Local Area Network	03:28
ubotu	I know nothing about Local Area Network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	03:28
soulrider	!ntfs	03:30
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse	03:30
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Dr_Willis	!easysource	03:32
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	03:32
Dr_Willis	reinstalling my fileserver... weeee	03:32
Lunar_Raven	mac runs on ntfs?	03:33
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h3sp4wn	Dr_Willis: I take it you are going for edgy this time then ?	03:33
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scabootssca	ok how'd i do this ->> http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4ai2.jpg and what's it for	03:36
scabootssca	i leaned on my keyboard	03:36
scabootssca	the katapult thing in the middle	03:37
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abattoir	scabootssca: press 'esc' it should go	03:38
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Lunar_Raven	!KATAPULT	03:38
ubotu	katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.	03:38
soulrider	press alt and space	03:38
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soulrider	!md5	03:39
ubotu	To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	03:39
scabootssca	ok what's it do	03:39
Lunar_Raven	launches programs	03:39
Lunar_Raven	like run	03:39
Lunar_Raven	so if you type amarok..and hit enter..it'll open	03:39
soulrider	uhm, how can i calculate md5s of multiple folders and files ?	03:39
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soulrider	!ntfs	03:42
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse	03:42
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soulrider	uhm, i mounetd my NTFS partitios	03:43
soulrider	i see everythign int he root folder	03:43
soulrider	and i see hte subfolders	03:44
soulrider	but i ant see whats in them	03:44
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scabootssca	how do i restore my repositorys to the origional ones?	03:49
abattoir	!source-o-matic	03:50
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	03:50
abattoir	scabootssca: ^^^	03:51
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[Nirvana]	#ubuntu-meetings	03:55
[Nirvana]	anyone here on latest edgy? Is the color scheme purple?	03:56
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	Can anyone help me out? Adept says something is using the database, and I'm assuming it's apt-get. How can I make apt-get finish the files I queued?	04:02
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RawSewage	\|\|Trayer\|\|, open the konsole	04:02
\|\|Trayer\|\|	RawSewage: Tis open	04:03
robotgeek	\|\|Trayer\|\|: usually killall apt-get works	04:03
robotgeek	sudo killall apt-get , actually	04:03
RawSewage	then	04:03
RawSewage	sudo dpkg --configure -a	04:03
\|\|Trayer\|\|	robotgeek: No process killed	04:03
RawSewage	sudo dpkg --configure -a	04:03
\|\|Trayer\|\|	RawSewage: attempting that now	04:03
robotgeek	sudo killall dpkg , \|\|Trayer\|\|	04:04
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MukiEX	VLC (universe?) plays MP4 files REALLY fuzzy. Friend of mine just sent me a quick home vid he made and I can't see it at all. Is there a fix/patch for this?	04:05
MukiEX	Seems like a flaw in FFMPEG.	04:05
Agios	try another player like mplayer	04:06
MukiEX	Specifically, in AVC1	04:06
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MukiEX	Yup, it's VLC; kaffiene has no issues =(	04:09
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Kr4t05	What's the console command for bittorrent?	04:11
\|\|Trayer\|\|	ktorrent	04:11
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I think	04:11
Kr4t05	Not Ktorrent	04:11
Kr4t05	But the Bittorrent client	04:11
Kr4t05	The "official" one.	04:11
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I actually really don't reccomend using the official one, but it should be bittorrent if it's in the correct path.	04:12
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I'd use ktorrent, bitcomet, utorrent,	04:12
[Nirvana]	utorrent thru wine of course ^	04:12
Kr4t05	Right.	04:13
Lunar_Raven	<3 ktorrent	04:13
OOD	there's ktorrent 2.0 now	04:13
\|\|Trayer\|\|	ktorrent = awesome	04:13
\|\|Trayer\|\|	fast speed	04:13
OOD	big improvement	04:13
Lunar_Raven	yeah 2.0 is really good	04:13
[Nirvana]	\|\|Trayer\|\|: I bet I'm a psychic: your from Toronto	04:13
\|\|Trayer\|\|	Nirvana: Close, ottawa ; ).	04:14
OOD	yeah? where am i from?	04:14
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[Nirvana]	BC? some place in Canada running a DSL line?	04:14
robotgeek	i dont know where I am from, lol	04:14
abattoir	hmm, lots of people from CA	04:14
OOD	some place in canada?	04:15
OOD	a little more specific ;)	04:15
OOD	?	04:15
robotgeek	or so says my whois	04:15
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I'm still getting the will not do stuff on Adept	04:15
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I closed a adept during a install since it froze	04:15
\|\|Trayer\|\|	whois robotgeek	04:15
[Nirvana]	sudo killall apt-get; sudo killall dpkg; sudo killall adept	04:15
OOD	whois OOD	04:15
[Nirvana]	and then sudo dpkg reconfigure -a	04:16
\|\|Trayer\|\|	That last command, you sure it's correct?	04:16
robotgeek	\|\|Trayer\|\|: do what [Nirvana] says	04:16
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	robotkeet&nirvana: It killed a dpkg but that last command isn't working	04:17
abattoir	dpkg-reconfigure -a ?	04:17
OOD	instead of typing all those up seperatly, you can put ' && ' in between each	04:17
[Nirvana]	^^oui	04:17
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[Nirvana]	^^double oui	04:17
abattoir	[Nirvana] : heh	04:17
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abattoir	!fr > [Nirvana]	04:18
abattoir	[Nirvana] : :P	04:18
archangel_	just got rid of 64 bit and down-graded to 32 bit. Sheesh, why should I have to do this.	04:18
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archangel_	disgraceful	04:18
archangel_	(version of kubuntu)	04:19
[Nirvana]	because 64 bit linux has poor app support?	04:19
archangel_	yup	04:19
\|\|Trayer\|\|	what's the /command to do something in IRC?	04:19
archangel_	sux	04:19
OOD	depends what the command is	04:19
\|\|Trayer\|\|	No, like to emote aka != fr	04:19
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OOD	'/me/	04:20
archangel_	OOD: good to see you again	04:20
OOD	'/me'	04:20
archangel_	yeah	04:20
OOD	welcome back	04:20
archangel_	you hgelped me with my video driver last night	04:20
OOD	yeah	04:20
[Nirvana]	what was the site with all the facts again?	04:20
[Nirvana]	ubuntu.com.au.cc or something?	04:20
archangel_	maybe you can help me with my 'typing' tonight	04:20
abattoir	!ubotu	04:21
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage	04:21
[Nirvana]	It has a brain!!	04:21
OOD	and its	04:21
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OOD	-browsable-	04:21
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[Nirvana]	and with that, I bid y'all farewell, join KubuntuForums.net for more of my Crazy-but-totally-under-controlled antics that never actually happen	04:21
archangel_	OOD: where did you take me for the final installation of the video driver? (gotta do it all again due to reinstall)	04:22
OOD	adept	04:22
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I'm still getting "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." I think it is because that reconfigure command never works for me o_O; You sure you guys have the right s	04:22
\|\|Trayer\|\|	That could of been pastbin'd = /	04:22
archangel_	OOD: I did the sapositories and got my driver	04:23
OOD	did you install nvidia-glx ?	04:23
archangel_	OOD: (little joke there)	04:23
archangel_	yes	04:23
OOD	oh.. hahahah :P	04:23
archangel_	I didnt know where to go in terminal to 'install it officially'	04:24
lnxkde	someone using compiz with themes?	04:24
OOD	cgwd window manager?	04:24
lnxkde	compiz quiin	04:25
archangel_	?	04:25
archangel_	you cuss'n?	04:25
OOD	no, he's a compiz dev	04:25
lnxkde	I have to use cgwd and not compiz?	04:26
archangel_	lol	04:26
OOD	no, i was wondering if you were using cgwd	04:26
archangel_	I dont know\	04:26
lnxkde	I installed gcompizthemer	04:26
OOD	that's for cgwd (compiz generic window desktop)	04:27
lnxkde	and themes showup on the list vut I cant use them	04:27
OOD	i think that's the acronim	04:27
lnxkde	I dont know how to enable them	04:27
OOD	you're probably using compiz-gnome as the window manager	04:27
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lnxkde	yep	04:27
henriquemaia	Hikaru79, everyone.	04:27
OOD	in order to use those things you have to switch to cgwd	04:27
OOD	those themes*	04:27
lnxkde	I see	04:27
Hikaru79	LOL, henriquemaia	04:28
henriquemaia	Opppps, nick completion erro.	04:28
henriquemaia	*error	04:28
henriquemaia	sorry Hikaru79.	04:28
henriquemaia	It was "hi everyone"	04:28
henriquemaia	lol	04:28
henriquemaia	Sorry.	04:28
archangel_	anyone here free to help with a video driver installation (nvidia)	04:28
henriquemaia	Can you give a list of specific kubuntu repos?	04:28
henriquemaia	Or a page where to find them?	04:28
OOD	lnxkde: this is what i used to get xgl/compiz running: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=689	04:28
OOD	it	04:29
TehKewl1	actually, I would like to know how to make adept use the debian repository	04:29
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OOD	archangel_: ok, we can go through it again	04:30
archangel_	dude I know your bussy	04:30
archangel_	I didnt want to ask you again	04:31
\|\|Trayer\|\|	adept is beign a bitch so I'm just manually apt-getting all the programs ><	04:31
\|\|Trayer\|\|	waait, am I aloud to say that on this channel? I don't want to get banned.	04:31
archangel_	It will be faster this time casue I have it downloaded and says installed, I just dont know what to do next	04:31
OOD	archangel_: all you have to do is type: sudo nvidia-xconfig in terminal	04:32
OOD	then restart X	04:32
archangel_	ahhhh, yeah, thats it	04:32
archangel_	forgot the command	04:32
farous	\|\|Trayer\|\|: install synaptic if you are more comfrotable with	04:33
lnxkde	OOD I replaced the compiz-gnome for cwgd	04:33
lnxkde	lets see	04:33
TehKewl1	can anyone tell me how to making adept use the debian repository	04:33
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farous	what do you mean deb repos?	04:34
TehKewl1	you know, debian.org	04:35
farous	TehKewl1: it is not wise to mix debian and ubuntu repos	04:35
TehKewl1	yea well I spose	04:35
lnxkde	OOD : i love you!	04:35
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lnxkde	It worked :)	04:36
archangel_	I'm back	04:36
archangel_	thanx works great (again)	04:36
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OOD	both: np ;)	04:37
lnxkde	OOD care for a sheensot?	04:37
archangel_	I can get my flash working I believe	04:37
OOD	lnxkde: alright	04:38
OOD	archangel_: yea, should work	04:38
archangel_	my sound card is 'working, but I get no sound	04:38
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archangel_	cd's midi & ogg files play fine I just cant hear anything	04:39
archangel_	its like speakers are unpluged	04:39
OOD	check kmix for muted channels	04:39
archangel_	done	04:40
archangel_	I had to switch it from 'nvidia' (?) to my Audigy card	04:41
archangel_	still nothing	04:41
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	!pastebin	04:44
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	04:44
OOD	archangel: you have an integrated sound card on your mobo?	04:45
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I'm getting the following error in KDevelop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19218	04:45
\|\|Trayer\|\|	It's NOT related to my source code.	04:45
archangel_	yes, but I have it disabled and want to use my audigy	04:45
OOD	archangel_: you disabled it in the bios?	04:46
archangel_	yes	04:47
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ubuntu	hi guys	04:48
ubuntu	i m totally new here	04:49
OOD	welcome to kubuntu	04:49
robotgeek	hey ubuntu	04:49
ubuntu	thanks	04:49
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ubuntu	hello	04:49
Dr_Willis	Hmm.. Installed to a new machine.. and i cant get the res of the display to NOT be 1280x1024 :)	04:49
OOD	archangel_: hmm, get the alsamixer package with adept	04:49
Dr_Willis	but i got tv out working.	04:49
Dr_Willis	Silly ati card. :)	04:50
ubuntu	its kind of ccccccccccccooooooooooool operating system	04:50
archangel_	OOD: ok	04:50
TehKewl1	it's linux, what do you expect?	04:50
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I'm getting	04:50
\|\|Trayer\|\|	* Exited with status: 127 *	04:50
\|\|Trayer\|\|	* Exited with status: 127 *	04:50
\|\|Trayer\|\|	* Exited with status: 127 *	04:50
\|\|Trayer\|\|	KDevelop is giving me the following error when I attempt to compile a file, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19218 I have automake 1.7 installed as 1.6 is not listed in the repos.	04:50
\|\|Trayer\|\|	woah, I did not type those 3 spams	04:51
wolfmanz	is fglrxinfo a standard command to see what version of ati driver you have?	04:51
ubuntu	how can i change the monitor resolution?	04:51
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Dr_Willis	!fixres	04:52
ubotu	x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto	04:52
Dr_Willis	but heck - i cant get my res to lower :) lol.	04:52
robotgeek	\|\|Trayer\|\|: sudo apt-get install build-essential	04:52
robotgeek	Dr_Willis: just for the heck of it?	04:52
abattoir	ubuntu: type Alt+F2-> in the Run command dialogue, type 'krandrtray' and click run	04:52
ubuntu	ok i fixed mine @ least	04:52
Dr_Willis	robotgeek: using the tv out mainly on this box.. and i dont need that high a res for the tv.	04:52
lnxkde	OOD : uploading it to imageshack :D	04:52
Dr_Willis	its screwing things up	04:52
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ubuntu	guys are you getting my msgs?	04:52
Dr_Willis	plus i got a little monitor	04:53
Dr_Willis	ubuntu: we read you	04:53
archangel_	alsamixergui? OOD	04:53
Dr_Willis	ypu may want to change nicks however.	04:53
ubuntu	gr8	04:53
ubuntu	guys i want some one to help me	04:53
wolfmanz	abattoir is fglrxinfo a standard command to see what version of ati driver you have?	04:53
OOD	archangel_: yeah that would be it	04:53
ubuntu	something very easy	04:53
archangel_	k	04:53
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abattoir	wolfmanz: must be, i dont use ati drivers :P	04:53
ubuntu	how can add 2 network ip to one ethernet interface	04:53
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archangel_	sudo install alsamixergui ?	04:54
ubuntu	i did only one	04:54
robotgeek	ubuntu: what do you mean "2 network ips'"	04:54
wolfmanz	abattoir well that command is a unknown command for me	04:54
ubuntu	i have one network interface ok but i would like to but on it 2 ip address	04:54
\|\|Trayer\|\|	robotgeek: Thanks! That worked : )	04:54
abattoir	wolfmanz: do you have the relevant fglrx packages installed?	04:54
ubuntu	i am an IT in saudi arabia	04:54
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OOD	archangel_: you can use adept to install it, or sudo apt-get install alsamixergui in terminal	04:55
ubuntu	i uesd to do it with windows platform	04:55
wolfmanz	abattoir i'm not sure i dont know how to see what drivers are in use i thought kubuntu installed ati drivers if you were using that	04:55
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archangel_	I all ready installed it, but I thought I had to do the 2 step again like with the video driver	04:55
Corrosive	does anyone know if there is a program for kubuntu that can play .wmv files, or convert .wmv files into .avi?	04:55
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Dr_Willis	SOME wmv files can be played with vlc,mplayer, and xine.	04:56
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Corrosive	thanks	04:56
ubuntu	no one want to help me	04:56
ubuntu	:(	04:56
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OOD	!w32	04:56
ubotu	I know nothing about w32 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	04:56
OOD	!w32codecs	04:56
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:56
OOD	Corrosive: ^^	04:57
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archangel_	OOD: never mind, its already in my menu, it did it automatically I guess	04:57
\|\|Trayer\|\|	FOR ANYONE wanting to play WMVs, Use VLC with windows codecs OR run wmp 6 <- 6 6 6! under wine	04:57
abattoir	wolfmanz: you have xorg-driver-fglrx installed?	04:57
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	Using sidenet script	04:57
Dr_Willis	Changeing Nicks was a good idea.	04:57
Dr_Willis	:P	04:57
\|\|Trayer\|\|	If you're using windows media player the newest wine and sidenet scripts work.	04:58
Talo0ot	guys	04:58
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lnxkde	http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9413/snapshot1ge3.png	04:58
Corrosive	thanks everyone, I'll try all those things	04:58
\|\|Trayer\|\|	inxkde: o_O	04:58
\|\|Trayer\|\|	Kubuntu vista...? lol	04:58
Talo0ot	anyone could help me please	04:58
archangel_	OOD: hmmm, it keeps wanting to go back to the onboard chipset. I seems like if it was truely disabled it wouldnt do that	04:59
wolfmanz	abattoir acording to the adept i dont have	04:59
Dr_Willis	Talo0ot: what was the question? i mssed it	04:59
Agios	ubuntu: http://www.xenocafe.com/tutorials/linux/redhat/bind_multiple_ip_addresses_to_single_nic/index.php	04:59
Agios	there's a start	04:59
Talo0ot	i want to add 2 network ip	04:59
archangel_	OOD: going to check again in bios	04:59
Talo0ot	to one eth	04:59
Corrosive	oh one more question, where can I get the windows codecs for VCL?	04:59
lnxkde	<\|\|Trayer\|\|> is more like a kubunutu osx :p	04:59
abattoir	!ati	04:59
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto	04:59
Dr_Willis	Talo0ot: dare we ask Why you want to such an odd thing?	04:59
abattoir	wolfmanz: you followed that?^^^	05:00
Agios	or Talo0ot, whatever you are this moment	05:00
Talo0ot	i have 2 transparent network running on the same hubs switches	05:00
wolfmanz	abattoir follow what the wiki url?	05:00
Talo0ot	i thought linux have alot of features	05:01
lnxkde	OOD: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9413/snapshot1ge3.png thankx bro :D	05:01
Agios	more than you can imagine	05:01
TehKewl1	it's modular	05:01
abattoir	wolfmanz: how did you setup your drivers? or are you using the default one that comes with restricted-modules?	05:01
Agios	you still have to learn how to use them	05:01
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TehKewl1	there are infinite features	05:01
Talo0ot	ook then how can i but 2 ips on one ethernet	05:01
wolfmanz	abattoir i didnt set anything up i installed kubuntu so it did whatever it does	05:01
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Talo0ot	i uesd to do it with command line with mikrotik	05:02
Agios	Talo0ot: I gave you a url, read	05:02
Talo0ot	but here i dont	05:02
Talo0ot	ok please give me	05:02
OOD	lnxkde: the themer is great, i really like it :)	05:02
Agios	http://www.xenocafe.com/tutorials/linux/redhat/bind_multiple_ip_addresses_to_single_nic/index.php	05:02
Talo0ot	i feel that i m profssional guy with this os hehehehe	05:02
abattoir	wolfmanz: well, if you have an ati card, to make more use of its features, you'd want to follow that wiki guide and install ati's binary drivers	05:02
KaiHanari	anyone know a good aacplus -> mp3 converter?	05:02
wolfmanz	abattoir i was afraid of that lol	05:02
lnxkde	OOD yep we can make compiz integrate with kde better	05:03
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Talo0ot	dr_wills	05:03
Talo0ot	can i do it from command line on this OS?	05:03
geneo93	10	05:03
OOD	lnxkde: cgwd is a step closer to that. since you don't have to install half of gnome to get xgl running	05:03
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Dr_Willis	Talo0ot: i got no clue as to why you woudl want to.. and that guy gave you a url.. time to go read I think.,	05:04
Talo0ot	i have a question	05:04
Dr_Willis	and I imagine YES it will involove a lot of the command line.	05:04
Talo0ot	how can i open command line	05:04
TehKewl1	I had to pull out my nVIDIA card to install	05:04
Dr_Willis	I have no idea what youmean by 'open command line'	05:04
lnxkde	OOD : I wonder how this will wotl with AIGLX	05:04
TehKewl1	then put it back in and do crap in the command line	05:04
lnxkde	work*	05:04
OOD	Talo0ot: konsole?	05:04
Talo0ot	yeah	05:04
Talo0ot	hehehe	05:04
Corrosive	I assume he means console	05:05
Talo0ot	konsole	05:05
Dr_Willis	It may be worth while to read a few bash tutorials.	05:05
Corrosive	It's in the K Menu under System	05:05
Talo0ot	dr_willis i read for 2 days	05:05
Dr_Willis	Talo0ot: aparently you missed a lot then. :P	05:05
Talo0ot	hehehehe	05:05
lnxkde	bbl	05:06
Talo0ot	/etc	05:06
OOD	lnxkde: problem with aiglx is that it doesn't work with nvidia cards yet, and those are the best cards for linux	05:06
Talo0ot	heheh sorrrrrrrrrrrrrry	05:06
OOD	kind of a bad situation	05:06
Corrosive	I read non ^^; Mostly figured out what I know myself. But after someone explained Adept to me most everything has been plain sailing	05:06
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Corrosive	But then I'm not a poweruser, I use my laptop for web browsing, emails and DVDs	05:07
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Corrosive	not a lot of tech knowledge needed	05:07
Dr_Willis	brb	05:07
robotgeek	Corrosive: i just browse, and check email on mine	05:07
lnxkde	OOD yep but eventually It will and it will be easyer to integrate desktops because is part of xorg	05:07
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Talo0ot	DONE	05:08
Talo0ot	question guys	05:08
lnxkde	but I will be back in 10 mins	05:08
Talo0ot	i dont know how to setup a program	05:08
lnxkde	time for shower and a coke after that	05:08
Talo0ot	i need toturial	05:08
lnxkde	bbl	05:08
obaleh	tutorial for what.	05:08
Talo0ot	for installing a programe	05:08
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Talo0ot	i extract a file	05:09
Corrosive	Talo0ot: You mean installing a program? Have you checked to see if it's on Adept Package Manager first?	05:09
Talo0ot	no it will not be	05:09
OOD	what program is it	05:09
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Talo0ot	its its satellite internet acceleration software	05:10
OOD	you have satelite internet ? o.0	05:10
Talo0ot	yes	05:10
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Talo0ot	http://www.onlyslon.org/slonax/	05:11
Talo0ot	open this page	05:11
Talo0ot	and you will find linux version	05:11
Talo0ot	i download it	05:11
Talo0ot	i extract it	05:11
Talo0ot	then i double click on it but nothing happend	05:11
Corrosive	try right click, check in permmissions if it's executable	05:12
Corrosive	right click > properties > permissions	05:12
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Corrosive	other than that, I'm a noob I don't really know how to help	05:12
OOD	Talo0ot: it's a cli program	05:12
OOD	run it in terminal	05:12
Talo0ot	how	05:13
Talo0ot	i m in terminal	05:13
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OOD	cd into where you extracted it	05:13
Dr_Willis	reading the docs is handy. :P	05:13
Talo0ot	hahahahaa	05:13
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Talo0ot	dr_willis bad guy	05:13
OOD	it is on your desktop?	05:13
Talo0ot	yes	05:14
OOD	Dr_Willis: give up the fight, you cant win, get nvidia :P	05:14
unix_infidel	Dr_Willis: its no use on the laptop.	05:14
OOD	open terminal	05:14
Talo0ot	i did	05:14
unix_infidel	it interferes with acpi features on the lapotp with ati.	05:14
OOD	type: cd Desktop	05:14
Dr_Willis	Thisis on my fileserver.	05:14
OOD	then: ./slnx_client	05:14
unix_infidel	Dr_Willis: LOL, why are you running X on a file server?	05:14
Dr_Willis	its got an ati9700 in it. tv out works.. but videos i play. dont show up.	05:14
Dr_Willis	unix_infidel: so i can watch porn in the basement. :P	05:15
Dr_Willis	and i cant get the res to be low enogh - its being too user friendly	05:15
Talo0ot	ok	05:15
Talo0ot	then	05:15
Dr_Willis	getting on my nerves	05:15
OOD	Talo0ot: did it work?	05:17
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Talo0ot	i did what you told me	05:17
Talo0ot	but nothing happend	05:17
Talo0ot	there is 2 version ntl and regular which one should i ues	05:17
OOD	what do you mean nothing happened?	05:17
OOD	what output did you get?	05:18
Talo0ot	ok listen	05:18
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Talo0ot	i open the desktop directory	05:18
Talo0ot	throw the konsol	05:18
Talo0ot	ok	05:18
Talo0ot	i tyoe	05:18
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Talo0ot	i wrote :./slnx_client	05:19
Talo0ot	ok	05:19
Talo0ot	it start new line in the konsle no error msgs	05:19
Dr_Willis	thenit worked. :P	05:20
Dr_Willis	no output = no errors - it worked. Lol.	05:20
OOD	yeah	05:20
OOD	if you get nothing then you started the program	05:20
Talo0ot	ok how can i run it then	05:20
OOD	you just did	05:20
Dr_Willis	lol	05:20
Dr_Willis	:P	05:20
Talo0ot	but how can i see the programe interface	05:20
OOD	there is none	05:20
OOD	that is the program	05:20
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Talo0ot	kidding	05:21
OOD	the program interface is the sx_client.conf	05:21
OOD	you set your settings there	05:21
OOD	then run slnx_client	05:21
Talo0ot	i know man	05:21
Talo0ot	i have it in windows	05:21
unix_infidel	Dr_Willis: you watch porn in 3d?	05:21
OOD	windows != linux	05:21
unix_infidel	that's....like damn....that's like awesome.	05:21
Dr_Willis	unix_infidel: stero! :P	05:21
Dr_Willis	id like to watch the videos on the tv.. not the little monitor	05:22
Talo0ot	mmmmmmmmmmm	05:22
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OOD	then you can read debug.log for feedback from the program	05:22
Talo0ot	as i rememebr there is somthing called umode a+x	05:22
jorge___	hello	05:22
Talo0ot	is this calid now	05:22
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Talo0ot	OOD have you run it?	05:23
OOD	yes i ran the program	05:23
Talo0ot	you got interface rightr?	05:23
OOD	no	05:23
KgB_	anyone has had problems for run eclipse?	05:23
OOD	there is no interface	05:24
Kovecses	what r u guys taliking about?	05:24
Talo0ot	ARE YOU SURE	05:24
KgB_	i got that error:	05:24
KgB_	./eclipse: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	05:24
OOD	i can see my screen fine, thanks	05:24
KgB_	but looking into the dir:	05:24
OOD	you want more proof?	05:25
OOD	look at the size of the windows version and the size of the linux version	05:25
KgB_	# ls /usr/lib/ \| grep libgtk; libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0; libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.18	05:26
KgB_	then libgtk is there	05:26
nrdb	I am trying to setup a firewall. I can ping the both the ethernet cards on the firewall, but when I try to ping another address (the ADSL modem) I get a "host unreachable" error. :( but the wierd thing is that none of the packet counters in iptables increase to show where the packet is going :( can someone please help in fixing this?	05:26
Talo0ot	noooooooooooooooo coz the cygwin file	05:27
sophie_	nrdb: this ight be a feature of your dsl modem where pings are not accepted like most default hardware routers	05:28
KgB_	how can i say to eclipse that libgtk is there?	05:28
Talo0ot	ok ur slnx_client create a debug file	05:28
nrdb	sophie_: I can ping the modem from the firewall. but the strange thing is the iptables packet count not changing, but the ethernet interface is receiving data.	05:29
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OOD	Talo0ot: there is no GUI in the program	05:31
Dr_Willis	the shell/command line is the interface :P	05:31
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Dr_Willis	Hmm	05:33
wolfmanz	how do i shut down the whiptail process thats eatting about 95% of my cpu right now?	05:35
OOD	killall processname	05:36
OOD	or open ksysguard and kill it there	05:36
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nrdb	I am trying to setup a firewall. I can ping the both the ethernet cards on the firewall, but when I try to ping another address (the ADSL modem) I get a "host unreachable" error. :( but the wierd thing is that the interface (eth1) is receiveing data, but none of the packet counters in iptables increase to show where the packet is going :( can someone please help in fixing this?	05:38
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TehKewl1	where do I get kdevelop easily	05:39
Hawkwind	!info kdevelop	05:39
ubotu	Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper	05:39
Hawkwind	!info kdevelop edgy	05:39
ubotu	kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7657 kB, installed size 24344 kB	05:39
Hawkwind	TehKewl1: It might be in backports, not sure	05:39
Hawkwind	!backports	05:40
ubotu	If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports	05:40
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robotgeek	!info kdevelop3	05:40
ubotu	kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB	05:40
TehKewl1	yeah U saw it, but I want it through adept	05:40
TehKewl1	*I	05:40
Hawkwind	Ahhh, I always forget it's kdevelop3	05:40
Talo0ot	guys	05:40
Talo0ot	anyone can tech me?	05:40
Talo0ot	?:	05:42
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Hawkwind	Tech you ?	05:43
Talo0ot	help me	05:43
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Talo0ot	http://www.onlyslon.org/slonax/	05:44
Talo0ot	there is a softhere i want to install it	05:44
intelikey	i have a kernel built that won't build the modules. i have booted the kernel and am running it. would it be ok to use a .deb of the same kernel version and move the modules to the custom /lib/modules/version ?	05:44
jmichaelx	is it a bad thing when sudo modprobe ndiswrapper gives no result?	05:45
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intelikey	is there any chance that i used a different gcc version to make my kernel than the ubuntu team did ?	05:45
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intelikey	jmichaelx no error in linux means no error	05:46
jmichaelx	ok	05:46
jmichaelx	no result=no error	05:46
OOD	Talo0ot: i've already told you how to run it	05:46
Talo0ot	trust me it didnt run	05:46
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OOD	yes it did	05:47
OOD	check ksysguard if you dont beleive me	05:47
Talo0ot	did it create debug file	05:47
OOD	yes	05:47
intelikey	results are either information or errors and not seeing any errors whether you see anything else or not, is good.	05:47
Talo0ot	ahha	05:47
Talo0ot	for me it didnt	05:47
dzachry_	My laptop overheats with kubuntu (fan does not come on). Have you heard of this problem?	05:47
OOD	that's probably because there's nothing to debug for you	05:47
OOD	run the program again	05:48
OOD	and check ksysguard, it'll be in the process list	05:48
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intelikey	dzachry_ check the forums/wikis there may be a know issue.	05:48
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Talo0ot	i m getting bash error	05:49
Talo0ot	now	05:49
OOD	what error?	05:49
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Talo0ot	no such file or directroy	05:49
Talo0ot	wait please let me fix it	05:49
Talo0ot	how come its on the directroy	05:50
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OOD	Talo0ot: you have to cd into where the program is	05:51
Talo0ot	i know	05:51
Talo0ot	i did	05:51
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Talo0ot	alos to confirm i make dir	05:51
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Talo0ot	its on the dir	05:51
OOD	what?	05:52
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Talo0ot	ok now it seams to be fine	05:53
bbt	i added the latest kde to source list and am having issues with it, how do i get stable branch installed instead ?	05:53
Talo0ot	how can i check the proccesss	05:53
OOD	start ksysguard and look for the program	05:53
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OOD	kmenu->system->ksysguard	05:53
Talo0ot	: ./slnx_client	05:53
Talo0ot	is it like this the command	05:53
Talo0ot	?	05:53
OOD	that executes the program	05:54
OOD	yes	05:54
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Talo0ot	i wrote : ./slnx_client4erwer	05:54
Talo0ot	but its doesnt give me error msgf	05:54
Talo0ot	its not in the keygard	05:55
jmichaelx	before i give up and do yet another reinstallation of kubuntu, if anyone has any clues about broadcom wireless, please let me know. i have bcm43xx blacklisted, and the driver from dell installed in ndiswrapper. i get 'driver present, hardware present' but still no go	05:55
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Talo0ot	ok nw it works	05:55
Talo0ot	it was like this./slnx_client an i worete like this : ./slnx_client	05:56
OOD	jmichaelx: in case you're interested, i beleive the 2.6.17 that came out recently has native broadcom drivers	05:56
OOD	2.6.17 kernel	05:56
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Talo0ot	thanks ooooooooooooooooooooooood	05:56
jmichaelx	OOD: i am interested and have thought about trying to upgrade, but would that make dapper unstable?	05:57
Talo0ot	i love you	05:57
robotgeek	yeah, i'm using broadcom too. native drivers works great!	05:57
OOD	Talo0ot: uh, no problem	05:57
robotgeek	jmichaelx: why are you not using the native driver?	05:57
bbt	is there a way to track what has been installed in adept?	05:57
OOD	jmichaelx: i think it would be pretty stable, i haven't tried using a vanilla kernel myself yet	05:58
jmichaelx	robotgeek: i tried using the open source driver on a previous installation and it did not work.... others have told me that when it does work it is often slow	05:58
robotgeek	jmichaelx: i have been using it since release without issues	05:58
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jmichaelx	i did have this card working under a previous installation with ndiswrapper, now i can't get it to work at all	05:59
Talo0ot	odd my friend can i do this with my OS http://www.xenocafe.com/tutorials/linux/redhat/bind_multiple_ip_addresses_to_single_nic/index.php	05:59
robotgeek	jmichaelx: wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb	05:59
jmichaelx	robotgeek: maybe i should try it again	05:59
robotgeek	jmichaelx: unblacklist bcm43xx, install the deb. and you should be good to go	05:59
robotgeek	jmichaelx: i think the only issue you might have had is firmware	06:00
jmichaelx	robotgeek: what card do you have? i have 4319.... truemobile 1470 dual band	06:00
OOD	Talo0ot: the instructions it would apply to redhat. fedora and centos	06:00
jmichaelx	robotgeek: i had the firmware and used fwcutter	06:00
OOD	so i don't know if it would work in kubuntu	06:00
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robotgeek	jmichaelx: i have airport extreme	06:00
jmichaelx	what chip?	06:01
robotgeek	Lunar_Raven: can you please turn off those scripts	06:01
robotgeek	jmichaelx: bcm43xx?	06:01
Lunar_Raven	i was actually just testing it	06:01
Lunar_Raven	first time	06:01
Talo0ot	so its not compatble with us?	06:01
Lunar_Raven	haha	06:01
OOD	Talo0ot: don't think so	06:01
jmichaelx	robotgeek: it makes a difference sometimes whether it is say 4311 or 4318, etc	06:01
OOD	alright, gotta go	06:02
robotgeek	BCM4306 jmichaelx	06:02
jmichaelx	robotgeek: from what i understand, my 4319 may be harder to deal with, but i am open to any suggestions	06:03
dzachry_	How do you load the thermal module (therm_adt746x)	06:03
robotgeek	jmichaelx: i would first find out if it is supported, by well the native driver	06:05
jmichaelx	robotgeek: i'm gonna give it a whirl here, i have nothing to lose	06:06
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robotgeek	jmichaelx: cooll, i;ll be around	06:06
jmichaelx	robotgeek: some of the forums seem to indicates that the os driver is reakky slow? do you have 54mbps?	06:08
jmichaelx	really*	06:08
robotgeek	jmichaelx: the os drivers works good or better than mac osx driver	06:09
jmichaelx	i was just reading that the os driver only allows 11mbps	06:10
robotgeek	no way	06:10
jmichaelx	hmm	06:10
Talo0ot	sorry i was smoking	06:10
robotgeek	jmichaelx: i am pretty sure that it is 54 mbps or whatever, but doesnt really matter for wireless	06:11
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Talo0ot	guys	06:22
Talo0ot	how can i ping	06:22
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Talo0ot	thanks guys i make it	06:23
mgayda	hola	06:25
wolfmanz	whats the linux version of dos edit anyone know and i mean something with a interface to it	06:25
lnxkde	anyone using XGL/compiz with kxdocker or engage ?	06:27
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SpAwN	wolfmanz, like a text editor	06:29
SpAwN	?	06:29
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yuheng108	if in Ubuntu you use GTK_IM_MODULE=scim, what do you use that have the same effect in KDE?	06:33
wolfmanz	ya text editor	06:34
wolfmanz	got to reboot	06:35
Hawkwind	Reboot ? Didn't know he was running Windows :P	06:35
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ubuntu	gnomefreak: you around?	06:41
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ubuntu	anybody around?	06:43
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ubuntu	BonBonTheJon: you up for helping newbie in distress?	06:45
BonBonTheJon	I'll try	06:46
ubuntu	I was using kubuntu happily for a few weeks when I ran into a serious problem	06:46
ubuntu	it wouldn't boot up	06:46
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ubuntu	I'm running off the CD now, btw	06:47
BonBonTheJon	how far did it go	06:47
BonBonTheJon	did it go to grub or lilo	06:48
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ubuntu	it runs through most or all of the checklist and then stops on a black screen with "kubuntu", the symbol, and progress bar (showing no progress) in the center	06:48
ubuntu	I suspect two things:	06:48
ubuntu	1. I was trying to install a program and didn't get what I was looking for, so I uninstalled (all in Adept)	06:49
lnxkde	ubuntu : you tried installing video drivers?	06:49
ubuntu	no	06:49
BonBonTheJon	that's what I was thinking	06:50
BonBonTheJon	I tried switching video drivers and mine would stop then too	06:50
ubuntu	well why would it work, then all of a sudden not work?	06:50
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ubuntu	I'll finish my SHORT history leading up to the problem. maybe that will help.	06:50
Hawkwind	ubuntu: Did you upgrade Xorg or your kernel ?	06:50
Hawkwind	ubuntu: If so, then you need to update the video drivers	06:51
ubuntu	I don't think so	06:51
Hawkwind	ubuntu: You have an Nvidia or ATI video card ?	06:51
ubuntu	is there a way to check my history in adept?	06:51
lnxkde	ubuntu : you did the install youirself and updated something ?	06:51
ubuntu	because I uninstalled the program (which was some program for development stuff) and ALSO ITS DEPENDENTS	06:51
Hawkwind	ubuntu: That's probably not your problem	06:52
ubuntu	I did all the install/unistall in adept and it didn't ask me anything	06:52
Hawkwind	We've all experienced the problem. It's due to video drivers	06:52
ubuntu	do you think I accidentally uninstalled something important?	06:52
lnxkde	yep	06:52
Hawkwind	Doubtful	06:52
ubuntu	k	06:52
BonBonTheJon	did you try booting in the rescue mode	06:53
ubuntu	not yet	06:53
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ubuntu	well, actually I think I did. but I;ll try again to be sure.	06:53
ubuntu	be right back	06:53
ubuntu	btw, I also suspect a problem with my hard drive. do you guys have any disk diagnosis programs you recommend	06:54
BonBonTheJon	i don't know, sorry; try googling real quick	06:55
ubuntu	k	06:55
ubuntu	im going to try rescue mode. be back soon	06:55
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digitalslacker	anybody have good methods for freeing up some RAM without restarting?	06:57
Hawkwind	Close apps	06:57
digitalslacker	all I have open is Xchat and top in Konsole	06:57
Hawkwind	Why would you want to free up RAM ? The more RAM you have used/cached the faster your system runs	06:57
Hawkwind	It's totally opposite of Windows	06:57
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digitalslacker	I just don't like seeing only 4MB of free RAM	06:59
NDPowerBook	You need to learn how Linux manages memory.	06:59
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Hawkwind	digitalslacker: I love seeing it like that. That means things are cached and running like they are supposed to	07:00
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digitalslacker	don't remember seeing it like that in Slackware	07:02
Hawkwind	It was the same	07:03
Hawkwind	All Linux distros manage it the same	07:03
digitalslacker	I definitely don't remember Slackware ever using the swap space, which I'm using about 91MB of swap right now	07:03
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digitalslacker	so basically, the programs I ran 2 days ago are still in the memory? Because I haven't touched this computer in 2 days	07:04
Lunar_Raven	probably..	07:05
Lunar_Raven	once you need more it releases some of the cache ram	07:05
Lunar_Raven	atleast from what I understand	07:05
Hawkwind	digitalslacker: As long as you didn't reboot, then yes it's probably still in memory	07:05
Hawkwind	Lunar_Raven: That is correct	07:05
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digitalslacker	okay, that would explain why so much is used up, I did my monthly network test last I was on this system, which probably filled the memory in a hurry	07:07
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wolfmanz	abattoir you around?	07:13
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ubuntu	BonBonTheJon: well, I was able to boot in recovery mode. but was lost for words at the prompt	07:16
ubuntu	ha	07:16
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ubuntu	BonBonTheJon: do I need to reinstall my video drivers in recovery mode? if so, how?	07:17
Admiral_Chicago	sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	07:19
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ubuntu	Admiral_Chicago: is that for me?	07:21
Admiral_Chicago	ubuntu, yes	07:21
ubuntu	Admiral_Chicago: that will determine my video card and find the appropriate drivers? anything else	07:22
Admiral_Chicago	monitor, mouse, resolutions	07:22
ubuntu	Admiral_Chicago: just trying to learn what I can from this unpleasant experience	07:22
ubuntu	thx	07:22
Admiral_Chicago	keyboard	07:22
ubuntu	will give it a shot	07:22
ubuntu	do you have a hard disk diagnosis program you recommend?	07:22
Admiral_Chicago	err what do you want to do?	07:23
ubuntu	I got an error on one of my boots about a I/o buffer... error on hdc	07:23
Admiral_Chicago	fsck?	07:23
ubuntu	just type that at the prompt?	07:23
ubuntu	very new to this	07:24
Admiral_Chicago	its a command that you can run from a terminal	07:24
ubuntu	k	07:24
Admiral_Chicago	File System Check	07:24
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ubuntu	yah figured that out	07:24
ubuntu	I'll give both a shot. thx	07:24
obf213	why doesnt kbfx work when you choose kmenu as opposed to vista or the other choice	07:24
Admiral_Chicago	np	07:24
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jmichaelx	robotgeek: my wireless is up and running :-D rock and roll!	07:28
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obf213	anyone know how i can congfigure my keyboard to add media buttons	07:29
obf213	or add lines to my xmodmap?	07:29
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jesspher	does anybody here know any program in linux that supports ipod nano?	07:33
Lunar_Raven	does amarok?	07:34
Lunar_Raven	have you tried amarok? heh	07:34
Admiral_Chicago	gtkpod	07:34
Admiral_Chicago	Lunar_Raven, yes it does	07:34
Lunar_Raven	:)	07:34
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Admiral_Chicago	jesspher, gtkpod	07:34
jesspher	can i install it using the terminal?	07:35
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Admiral_Chicago	sudo apt-get install gtkpod	07:35
beherit	ola alguem do brazil	07:36
jesspher	Admiral_Chicago: thanks man	07:36
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jmichaelx	wouldanyone have a clue why yahoo videos from AP are working for me in firefox, but videos in yahoo from CNN are not? am i missing a plugin?	07:37
obf213	anyone know how to configure a keyboard	07:37
Admiral_Chicago	jmichaelx, try looking for the mplayer-firefox plugin	07:37
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jmichaelx	Admiral_Chicago: i think i have that.... ill look	07:38
dhq	i am runnin mplayer but now video seem to be playing the error msg i get is seek failed	07:38
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Admiral_Chicago	thats the only thing I can think og	07:38
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jmichaelx	Admiral_Chicago: i have that plugin... what about totem-gstreamer-firefox? should i install that?	07:42
bobbyyu	How do I set the files/folders in /media/SDA 1 into full write permission	07:42
bobbyyu	?	07:42
Konstable	in Konqueror. When I do a Tools->Execute shell command, and when I type in a sudo <something> it prompts me for password. But for some reason I can't enter it in the Konqueror shell execution window.	07:43
Konstable	do I need to open a proper terminal or is there a way around this?	07:44
obf213	i have xmodmap installed but there is no file for me to edit anywhere. anyone know wy	07:44
bobbyyu	Konstable: was that for my question?	07:44
bobbyyu	If so, how do you mean?	07:45
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Konstable	bobbyu: no :P	07:45
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AegeanLinux	Does anyone have a spare 10GB + hard drive that they want to give away for a good cause?	07:46
root___	what is the name of the package for FLASH?	07:46
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scabootssca	how do i set my default sound device?	07:46
root___	aegean_ good cause? scsi or IDE?	07:46
root___	scabootssca system settings	07:47
AegeanLinux	root___: IDE	07:47
_normal1	hello =)	07:47
AegeanLinux	good cause = new aegeanlinux.be server	07:47
root___	aegean,, good cause?	07:47
scabootssca	where?	07:47
root___	roger	07:47
_normal1	hey can anyone tell me how to unzip tgz ?	07:47
root___	location?	07:47
AegeanLinux	Australia	07:47
_normal1	hey can anyone tell me how to unzip .tgz ?	07:47
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Bulltitan	i have another computer kinda low end sistem with a sis 6326 vga card and whenever i use mplayer with xv driver in full screen i see abunch of horrible lines scatered all over the screen, any ideas what to do?	07:47
scabootssca	right click and click extract	07:47
AegeanLinux	_normal1: tar -xvf {FILE}	07:47
_normal1	cool thanks	07:48
_normal1	=)	07:48
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root___	Aegean_ sorry brother,, if you were local no sweat.. but i am in the US.	07:48
root___	scaboot	07:48
Konstable	AegeanLinux I have a broken 40GB that I am about to throw away :P	07:48
root___	which UI are you using? or are you in command line?	07:48
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root___	can someone tell me how to tell kubuntu to not auto log in as ROOT?	07:48
root___	chmod	07:49
AegeanLinux	Konstable: thanks for the offer ;)	07:49
AegeanLinux	root___: Thanks	07:49
AegeanLinux	anyways	07:49
root___	aegean_ email me your address, ill see what i can do	07:49
root___	whisper me	07:49
gold	does anyone know how to share a folder between OSX and Dapper?	07:51
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Leeif	hi	07:52
Leeif	can i run rpm2cpio in ubuntu?	07:52
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dhq	i have a tv card how do i view the tv	07:53
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root___	can someone tell me how to tell kubuntu to not auto log in as ROOT?	07:53
obf213	AegeanLinux how do i add information to keycode for my xmodmap	07:53
obf213	i did xmodmap -pk and it showed me the list but i want to edit the list	07:54
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AegeanLinux	obf213: Wouldn't have a clue, because I am feeling happy and X.org 7.1 works, I will google for you :D	07:54
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scabootssca	i accidentally closed the little volume control/mixer in the corner but now i dont know how to start it up again	07:54
RawSewage	kmix	07:55
RawSewage	alt+f2	07:55
RawSewage	kmix	07:55
scabootssca	thanks	07:55
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dhq	is myth tv good	07:56
scabootssca	yay i'm happy cause i finally got my sound to work right	07:56
scabootssca	all i had to do was disable the onboard aidio	07:56
scabootssca	i alreadyt had the drivers installed	07:56
scabootssca	now onto video!!	07:57
rr72	scabootssca~ lol	07:57
rr72	always good to disable onbaord stuff	07:57
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rr72	like video and audio	07:57
_normal1	does netcat come in perl ?	07:57
scabootssca	has no onboard video	07:57
scabootssca	just a crappy old ati card	07:58
_normal1	or just c ?	07:58
rr72	ati crap	07:58
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_normal1	anyone know ?	07:59
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AegeanLinux	_normal1: tar -xvf {filername}	08:00
root___	who can tell me how to register my nick here.. is it /msg nickserv (nick)	08:00
AegeanLinux	/msg nickserv register <passwrod>	08:01
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ubuntu	I just tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	08:02
obf213	so any idea hwo to add media buttons	08:02
AegeanLinux	whats your keyboard obf213?	08:02
ubuntu	and got an error that xserver-xorg is not installed or incomplete	08:02
obf213	its a regular keybaord i think i just have media buttons on the front of the laptop	08:02
obf213	i found instruction on wht keycode to assign them	08:03
root___	ubuntu	08:03
root___	you need to kill X	08:03
root___	do it from the command line	08:03
obf213	but ti just said add "information" xmodmap	08:03
ubuntu	?	08:03
root___	I just had the same issue	08:03
root___	i had to quit the UI	08:03
obf213	You can enable the extra buttons by mapping them to actions. There are many ways to do this but a quick and simple way is to insert the following lines into ~/.Xmodmap	08:03
obf213	i have xmodmap installed bu i dont have ~/Xmodmap :(	08:04
ubuntu	root___: sorry, I;m very new to linux	08:04
root___	then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	08:04
root___	ubuntu	08:04
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AegeanLinux	obf213: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/xmodmap.1.html#toc4	08:04
root___	ubuntu__are you using kubuntu as your UI?	08:04
_normal1	hey how do you install something with a makefile ?	08:05
ubuntu	root___: i'm running off the cd right now. I have to boot in recovery mode after I sign off here because my computer quitting booting all the way	08:05
ubuntu	Im running kubuntu	08:05
AegeanLinux	_normal1: ./configuyre	08:05
AegeanLinux	_normal1: ./configure	08:05
AegeanLinux	_normal1: make	08:05
AegeanLinux	_normal1: make install	08:05
AegeanLinux	:D	08:05
root___	Aegean__did you get my email?	08:06
AegeanLinux	root___: I don't know yet ;)	08:06
ubuntu	root___: when you say kill x? what is x? and how do I do that?	08:06
ubuntu	root___: and what is ui?	08:07
Hobbsee	root___: why are you running irc as root?	08:07
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AegeanLinux	root___: yes, I have got your email. Thank you.	08:07
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root___	hobbsee__kubuntu auto logs me in as root.. pain in my butt	08:08
Hobbsee	root___: ah, did you set it up that way?	08:08
root___	ubuntu__ui=user interface, or the graphical user interface, x=xserver or xwindows its runs the UI	08:08
root___	hobbsee__nope..	08:09
_normal1	cool thanks man	08:09
root___	hobbsee__any ideas?	08:09
ubuntu	root___: im running in recover mode (from the prompt). doesn't that mean the ui is closed?	08:09
root___	perhaps someone can tell me how to register a different nick!:_	08:09
AegeanLinux	root___: Kcontrol --> Login Manager	08:09
root___	ubuntu__yup	08:09
abattoir_	root___: also, do you have to startx manually?	08:09
Hobbsee	root___: /nick foo	08:10
root___	abattoir__ no, but i did set my inttab to run level 1 (multi user) i hope it solves it after i restartx	08:10
abattoir_	root___: if on bootup, you are dumped into a root login, see if you have 'single' as a kernel boot parameter in /boot/grub/menu.lst	08:10
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abattoir_	root___: aah, ok	08:10
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ubuntu	root___: so, do you know why it would say that xserver-xorg was not installed? rem: running in recovery mode	08:10
AegeanLinux	** root___ :: Kcontrol --> System Administration --> Convenience --> Enable Auto-Login	08:11
AegeanLinux	(that is if KDM logs you in automagickly ;))	08:11
apeman2020	aegean__roger that thanks!	08:11
apeman2020	Abattoir__I am not using a bootloader :)	08:12
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obf213	AegeanLinux: thanks a ton ive been trying to figure this out forever	08:14
AegeanLinux	obf213: Don	08:14
AegeanLinux	't thank me ;)	08:14
ubuntu	root___: any ideas?	08:15
apeman2020	aegeanlinux__autologin is not enabled.. any ideas?	08:15
AegeanLinux	Do you have to start X manually apeman2020?	08:16
apeman2020	nope	08:16
wolfmanz	abattoir_ do you know where the boot log is kept?	08:16
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AegeanLinux	Did you install Kubuntu or Ubuntu apeman2020?	08:16
apeman2020	but i did set my run level to 1, but havent restarted x yet	08:16
apeman2020	kubuntu	08:16
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AegeanLinux	hmmmm, that shouldn't happen apeman2020	08:16
Hobbsee	wolfmanz: in /var/log?	08:17
apeman2020	roger that aegean..hence the puzzled look on my mug.:_)	08:17
ubuntu	anyone have any idea why when I run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (in recovery mode) it says that it is incomplete or not installed	08:17
wolfmanz	Hobbsee i'm in there and there is not boot log there is a bootstrap log but i dont think thats what i'm looking for	08:18
Hobbsee	ah	08:18
apeman2020	ubuntu - cd /etc/console/startx	08:18
apeman2020	tell me what happens	08:19
ubuntu	cool. do I need a cd in the drive?	08:19
apeman2020	no	08:19
apeman2020	unless you are running from the cd	08:19
AegeanLinux	apeman2020: Did you get my email?	08:19
apeman2020	whisper AegeanLinux ill chcek	08:19
ubuntu	apeman2020: I'm running off the install cd right now. I need to restart in recovery mode to try this correct?	08:20
AegeanLinux	apeman2020: type /msg <username> <message> ;)	08:20
init33	where can I find a good script to install codecs, mp3 support etc?	08:20
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Hobbsee	!easyubuntu > init33	08:21
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ubuntu	apeman2020: k be back in a few minutes. is there anything else I should try while im there?	08:22
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apeman2020	can anyone point me to a get package repository?	08:24
AegeanLinux	apeman2020: what type of repo ?	08:28
Hobbsee	!repos	08:28
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	08:28
AegeanLinux	apeman2020: LAMP = Apache MySQL + PHP/Perl	08:28
abattoir	wolfmanz: tried 'dmesg'?	08:28
abattoir	wolfmanz: 'dmesg \| less' would be more convenient	08:29
wolfmanz	abattoiir whats that do?	08:29
wolfmanz	abattoir the reason i need the log is to see why the ati fgl thing wont load up	08:30
abattoir	wolfmanz: it shows messages from the kernel during boot...	08:30
abattoir	wolfmanz: 'dmesg \| grep fglrx' would help too...	08:30
abattoir	wolfmanz: i'm not familiar w/ ati stuff, but is it a module that X loads?	08:31
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apeman2020	what is the package name (apt-get) for LAMP?	08:32
wolfmanz	abattoir i dont even know how to put the into words but i'm getting tired of trying to get this fgl crap to work	08:32
apeman2020	and just so eveyone knows i love miniature schnauzers!	08:33
AegeanLinux	apeman2020:	08:33
AegeanLinux	apt-get mysql	08:33
AegeanLinux	apt-get httpd	08:33
AegeanLinux	apt-get php	08:33
abattoir	wolfmanz: i havent used it, but doesnt easyubuntu simplify stuff?	08:33
abattoir	!easyubuntu	08:33
ubotu	easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.	08:33
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wolfmanz	abattoir i wish you would have said easy ubuntu a few hours ago lol	08:35
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abattoir	wolfmanz: tbh, i never exactly knew what you wanted...	08:35
wolfmanz	abattoir it looks like it can do this so let me give that a try wonder if i will have to uninstall the ati driver before trying that?	08:35
jmichaelx	abattoir: i FINALLY got my wireless working.... using the open source driver	08:36
abattoir	jmichaelx: cool... :)	08:36
wolfmanz	i'm gonna have to start smoking dope to cope with linux lol	08:36
jmichaelx	wolfmanz: i'll join you	08:36
wolfmanz	lol	08:36
jmichaelx	i have never used an illegal drug in my life, but linux has made me wanna start :-P	08:37
wolfmanz	abattoir should i uninstall that ati driver?	08:37
abattoir	wolfmanz: tbh, i have no clue :P	08:37
abattoir	wolfmanz: i have neither used ati drivers nor easyubuntu	08:38
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wolfmanz	man no wonder why windows is so popular lol	08:38
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Konstable	Hrm, I've got a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 install. When I try to open an MP3 with either amaroK or Kaffeine it just says: "playlist finished" and does not actually play the mp3.	08:39
abattoir	!mp3	08:40
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:40
abattoir	Konstable: follow those guides^^^^	08:40
abattoir	Konstable: essentially, you'd have to download and install libxine-extracodecs	08:40
abattoir	Konstable: which is in the multiverse repository....	08:41
Konstable	thanks	08:41
abattoir	!multiverse	08:41
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	08:41
Lynoure	wolfmanz: I use ati, but only the free drivers, not the closed ones.	08:41
abattoir	Konstable: or you can use easyubuntu to do all that for you	08:41
abattoir	!easyubuntu	08:41
ubotu	easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.	08:41
jmichaelx	wolfmanz: be careful how you talk, i was frustrated earlier today and was accused of trolling	08:41
jmichaelx	lol	08:41
Konstable	abattoir: Excellent, thanks.	08:41
abattoir	Konstable: :)	08:41
wolfmanz	jmichaelx ya any time something should be made more friendly your a troll lol	08:42
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Konstable	Also, is there a way to customize the shortuct items or whatever they're called in the lower left corner?	08:42
abattoir	Konstable: yes, right click on them, you can add new ones, remove existing ones	08:42
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Konstable	ah, thanks again :)	08:43
jmichaelx	anyone know how to get video from yahoo to work? yahoo video from AP works for me, but yahoo video from CNN, for example, does not. i have installed any relavant plugins i could find....	08:44
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abattoir	jmichaelx: does it say something like "Works only with windows"?	08:44
jmichaelx	abattoir: no, lol	08:45
abattoir	jmichaelx: i tried playing a video of CNN... said something like that...	08:45
abattoir	*off	08:45
abattoir	or was it Windows Media Player is required...??? dont remember now	08:45
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jmichaelx	abattoir: i have several linux PCs, and these videos work on them, but they won't on this laptop... i have no idea what i could have done differently	08:46
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abattoir	jmichaelx: aah, ok, you have win32codecs installed?	08:47
jmichaelx	abattoir: well, i used automatix to install them	08:47
abattoir	jmichaelx: hmm, if it works in other linux pcs, i'd expect it to work w/ kubuntu as well...	08:48
jmichaelx	abattoir: maybe i had better check that they are there	08:48
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abattoir	jmichaelx: are you running amd64 by any chance?	08:48
abattoir	jmichaelx: also a link to the site might help	08:48
jmichaelx	abattoir: no, a crappy celeron	08:48
ubuntu	apeman2020: it said that the file or directory does not exist	08:48
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ubuntu	apeman2020: i just did cd /etc/console/startx	08:50
ubuntu	apeman2020: was there supposed to be a space between start and x	08:51
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wolfmanz	ok time to reboot and see how this went lol	08:52
thompa	anybody using ubuntu64, problem with realplayer?	08:52
jmichaelx	abattoir: you wanted a link to the videos i mentioned? they are just from www.yahoo.com	08:52
thompa	is it best to do firefox 32 bit install?	08:52
abattoir	hmm, yahoo.com has changed!!!	08:53
thompa	looks ill	08:53
ubuntu	apeman2020: and if that doesn't work, you suggest a clean install?	08:54
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thompa	i think one of their server must be down	08:54
firephoto	jmichaelx: i tried a movie trailer, looks like yahoo is just doing OS detection, or specific player detection.	08:55
thompa	i get that in konqueror	08:55
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abattoir	jmichaelx: i just clicked on some random link "We regret that Yahoo! Music videos are not currently supported for Macintosh. We are exploring ways to offer video on additional platforms, and hope you'll check back as we make enhancements to the service"	08:55
thompa	just unclick send browser id in konq.	08:56
jmichaelx	abattoir: yeah, i think the music videos are a different situation. i'll get something figured out for the news clips	08:56
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ubuntu	do you guys like ubuntu or kubuntu? i've been trying kubuntu, but if I end up having to reinstall is there any reason to switch?	08:56
thompa	reinstall what?	08:56
abattoir	ubuntu: you are in #kubuntu, most people would obviously say kubuntu :P	08:56
StrudelNinja	hey, I'm a total linux n00b and I just got kubuntu. I'm having problems when I try to add firefox, I get "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."	08:57
StrudelNinja	...what does that mean	08:57
jmichaelx	ubuntu: it is just personal preference	08:57
[xt]	if you install "kubuntu" or "ubuntu" it's not like you can't easily switch b/w gnome and kde either way if you want to, right ?	08:57
firephoto	StrudelNinja: did you "fetch updates" first?	08:57
jmichaelx	ubuntu: i actually like xfce4 really well	08:58
thompa	ubuntu: just install one or the other, you can add the other easily in a couple of minutes and switch between the two	08:58
thompa	i have a probelm with xfce4 after installing compiz though	08:58
StrudelNinja	firephoto: yeah, no good though	08:58
ubuntu	thx guys	08:59
thompa	is anybody running the 64 bit version here?	08:59
firephoto	StrudelNinja: what version of firefox is it trying to install?	08:59
StrudelNinja	firephoto: 1.5.0.5	09:00
firephoto	does adept show any 'upgradable' packages ?	09:01
StrudelNinja	not that I know of	09:02
firephoto	it should say at the bottom of the window.	09:02
StrudelNinja	0 upgradable	09:03
firephoto	i'm pretty sure mine just updated today (firefox) along with some other packages.	09:03
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firephoto	StrudelNinja: did you click the 'show details' button when it's installing and see if it says anything else when it fails?	09:05
StrudelNinja	is there any way to see a log of it? I click apply and it's instantly at that error	09:07
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firephoto	StrudelNinja: if you click the details on the firefox package it should show you a list of packages that are required or conflicting.	09:09
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StrudelNinja	yeah, there's 1 conflict	09:10
StrudelNinja	and a bunch of required	09:11
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wolfmanz	abattoir no go on the easy ubuntu in terms of the ati drivers	09:11
firephoto	StrudelNinja: uninstall the mozilla-firefox package if you have it	09:12
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StrudelNinja	it's not installed	09:13
firephoto	what about other packages? is there more than just firefox that's getting installed? maybe one of them has a confict?	09:14
StrudelNinja	when I request firefox it adds some libpango things, lemme try installing without them	09:15
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StrudelNinja	that didn't work	09:16
StrudelNinja	cancelling them cancels firefox, too	09:16
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SpAwN	hello all i added the repo for the new kde.........and now when i do ap-get update i get this	09:18
SpAwN	http://pastebin.ca/106287	09:18
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SpAwN	i added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main" to the source list	09:19
[xt]	So kubuntu has a "wireless assistant" but it seems to me to not be very useful for setting up a wireless network	09:19
firephoto	SpAwN: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php you need jriddell's key..	09:20
[xt]	for instance, if the SSID isn't broadcast, wlassistant isn't interested in helping me	09:20
SpAwN	firephoto, ahh k thanks	09:20
StrudelNinja	I didn't know that linux would be this confusing :/	09:21
Lunar_Raven	those other programs are called dependencies	09:22
Lunar_Raven	you can't get rid of them	09:22
Lunar_Raven	or firefox wont run	09:22
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SpAwN	crap i think i mucked somthing up....i added the key now i get this when i do apt-get upgrade http://pastebin.ca/106288	09:22
Lunar_Raven	!firefox	09:23
ubotu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins	09:23
[xt]	I don't think kubuntu even installed firefox for me	09:23
Lunar_Raven	it doesnt by default	09:23
StrudelNinja	I just wanna get firefox and gaim tonight, then I'll be happy	09:24
Lunar_Raven	should be pretty simple with adept	09:25
Lunar_Raven	does it not install	09:25
Lunar_Raven	?	09:25
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SpAwN	weird i tried the gui updater and its actualy dling things...wonder if it will actualy work	09:25
StrudelNinja	it doesn't even have gAIM and I'm getting an error with firefox	09:25
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[xt]	what the heck just happened	09:25
farous	StrudelNinja: you can just sudo apt-get install firefox gaim in a terminal	09:25
Tm_T	adept is pretty good nowadays but it's not perfect, so I stick with apt-get	09:26
StrudelNinja	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	09:26
StrudelNinja	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	09:26
StrudelNinja	when I try firefox	09:26
StrudelNinja	wait I know	09:27
firephoto	StrudelNinja: you have to quit adept	09:27
StrudelNinja	I left adapt open	09:27
farous	StrudelNinja: close adept before you do that or the update manager	09:27
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StrudelNinja	bear with me please, I'm new to this	09:27
StrudelNinja	heh	09:27
StrudelNinja	apparently I need some dependencies	09:28
Lunar_Raven	:P	09:28
Lunar_Raven	yes	09:28
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StrudelNinja	how do I get them, the same way?	09:29
farous	StrudelNinja: this will be installed automatically for you	09:29
StrudelNinja	firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable	09:29
StrudelNinja	Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed	09:29
StrudelNinja	I think I'm missing something	09:30
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farous	!info libgtk2	09:31
ubotu	Package libgtk2 does not exist in dapper	09:31
geneo93	!libgtk+	09:32
ubotu	I know nothing about libgtk+ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	09:32
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farous	!info libgtk2.0	09:32
ubotu	Package libgtk2.0 does not exist in dapper	09:33
farous	!info libgtk2.0-0	09:33
ubotu	libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.18-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2036 kB, installed size 4516 kB	09:33
farous	StrudelNinja: it is in the main repos so how come it does not show	09:34
StrudelNinja	I have no idea	09:35
bbt	what repo do i need to enable to get the dev kernel 2.6.17 ?	09:35
farous	StrudelNinja: can you use the pastebin to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file	09:35
farous	StrudelNinja: you can also try first sudo apt-get update	09:35
farous	StrudelNinja: then sudo apt-get install firefox gaim	09:36
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stanks	good morning all	09:36
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StrudelNinja	updated and it didn't fix my firefox problem	09:37
StrudelNinja	E: Couldn't find package gaim	09:37
StrudelNinja	so gaim isn't working either ><	09:37
farous	i think gaim is also in main repos	09:37
Hobbsee	!info gaim	09:38
ubotu	gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB	09:38
bbt	!info dev	09:38
ubotu	Package dev does not exist in dapper	09:38
Hobbsee	it's in main. yes. did you happen to comment out all of your sources.list?	09:38
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bbt	!info edgy	09:38
ubotu	Package edgy does not exist in dapper	09:38
StrudelNinja	I have no idea if I did	09:38
SpAwN	i knoticed when i didnt have a internet connection during the install...it commented out all sources by default	09:39
farous	StrudelNinja: you have to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file either manually or using adept to enable the net repos	09:39
SpAwN	updates main and the rest...i had to manualy uncomment them	09:39
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StrudelNinja	alright	09:39
StrudelNinja	lemme try	09:39
MilhousePunkRock	Good Morning everyone	09:39
SpAwN	hehe MilhousePunkRock morning ....i havent been to bed yet	09:40
farous	hi MilhousePunkRock	09:40
farous	its nearly dawn here though :)	09:40
SpAwN	same here	09:40
SpAwN	quarter to 4	09:40
SpAwN	about time to hit the ol dusty trail......	09:41
farous	same longitude SpAwN :)	09:41
SpAwN	hehe im east coast usa	09:41
MilhousePunkRock	Well, it's 9:40 here and I got woken up by the church bells, like on every Sunday... :-/	09:41
SpAwN	hehe	09:41
farous	neighbour to your north :)	09:41
SpAwN	canada eh?	09:41
SpAwN	:P	09:42
farous	eh	09:42
MilhousePunkRock	Hey AegeanLinux... Iso ready?	09:42
SpAwN	my buddy is going to montreal tomorow	09:42
SpAwN	going for like a week to party	09:42
nrdb	I have setup a shorewall firewall with 2 interfaces. I can ping the modem and internet from the firewall computer but no computer from behind the firewall, but I can ping both interfaces of the firewall. can anyone help?	09:42
StrudelNinja	ok, I'm in /etc/apt/sources.list, what lines do I want to uncomment	09:43
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farous	!easysource > StrudelNinja	09:43
farous	SpAwN: he will have the time of his life. I am sure of it.	09:44
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SpAwN	farous, heeh yea he was worried about not being able to find any smoke...	09:45
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MilhousePunkRock	Hello gath	09:45
SpAwN	well im off to bed pz out all	09:46
gath	hi	09:46
MilhousePunkRock	SpAwN: So that's why you guys go to Canada... :-P	09:46
gath	anybody here , who knows something about the login-manager?	09:46
AegeanLinux	MilhousePunkRock: No, but if you ask my Tuesday, the installer will be ;)	09:47
SpAwN	MilhousePunkRock, hehe :P.....canadians grow some good herbals	09:47
MilhousePunkRock	AegeanLinux: OK, will do...	09:47
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StrudelNinja	excellent, I have firefox now	09:48
StrudelNinja	and gaim	09:48
StrudelNinja	thanks guys	09:48
MilhousePunkRock	SpAwN: Yeah, I kinda heard that... If you are in the Southern US it comes from Mexico, if you are in the north, it comes from Canada...	09:48
StrudelNinja	I'll be back in the morning with some more questions :)	09:48
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SpAwN	MilhousePunkRock, pretty much yea....most of the stuff i get is from canada and vermont ....but it all trickels down from the north to me ;D	09:49
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SpAwN	welp im gonna have my last smoke and hit the may.........cya	09:50
SpAwN	*hay	09:50
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MilhousePunkRock	Does anyone know a place to get sound schemes from other than KDE-look.org?	09:56
AegeanLinux	customize.org	09:57
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MilhousePunkRock	Thx AegeanLinux!	09:57
AegeanLinux	np	09:57
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euan	Hi there guys	09:58
MilhousePunkRock	AegeanLinux: That's for the "enemy"... How do I make .ogg's from the .wav's I will probably get there...	09:58
MilhousePunkRock	Hey euan!	09:58
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Werdna	hi guys, anybody know where the firefox package sticks a shortcut/launcher?	09:59
euan	First timer here...be kind...	09:59
AegeanLinux	That bit I still have to work out MilhousePunkRock ;)	09:59
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AegeanLinux	everyone, that mean euan is a n00b, BE MEAN!	09:59
MilhousePunkRock	lol AegeanLinux...	09:59
MilhousePunkRock	euan: Don't be shy, this is _the_ place where newbies get help... And not everyone is as unfriendly as AegeanLinux... :-P	10:00
AegeanLinux	MilhousePunkRock: Thats the last time i give __you__ help MilhousePunkRock	10:00
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AegeanLinux	you scared him off!	10:01
MilhousePunkRock	AegeanLinux: You just lost one beta tester...	10:01
wolfmanz	Finally got the drivers installed	10:01
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Lynoure	beta tester?	10:01
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MilhousePunkRock	For his distro, Lynoure...	10:05
MilhousePunkRock	Look at his part message	10:05
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euan	the n00b is back...	10:08
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euan	Anyone here with patience for a n00bie?	10:10
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MilhousePunkRock	euan: What's the matter? I am a noob myself, but maybe I can help...	10:11
euan	Just need help with a few insall issues.	10:11
euan	Install	10:12
euan	Namely printers	10:12
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TheHighChild	anyone know of an external sound card that works well witht tux?	10:14
AegeanLinux	Sound Blaster Zs2	10:15
AegeanLinux	SB Live!	10:15
TheHighChild	I am sound card stupid, is that the same card or two different ones?	10:15
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wolfmanz	two different ones	10:16
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TheHighChild	which works better?	10:17
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wolfmanz	depends	10:17
wolfmanz	for your basic audio i would go with the SB becasue it would be cheap to buy	10:17
oomph	anyone know how to add support for a secondary language on an xubuntu box?	10:18
TheHighChild	ok. What I want is an external card so I can switch inputs. I'd live to set up a phone system on my Kubuntu box. Not sure how I am gonna do that yet though	10:18
wolfmanz	if you want more fancy stuff get the zs2	10:18
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TheHighChild	ok, the SB Live!	10:18
wolfmanz	phone system?	10:18
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TheHighChild	I'd like to route my telephone through my box, setup a voicemail/messaging machine	10:19
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wolfmanz	you will need PBX software for that no?	10:19
oomph	TheHighChild tribox is good for that	10:20
TheHighChild	Nah, that's for setting up a whole phone system	10:20
TheHighChild	oomph: awesome, thanks	10:20
TheHighChild	will check it out.	10:20
oomph	tribox is a pbx distro though, may not be what your looking for	10:21
TheHighChild	wolfmanz: A PBX is an entire exhange	10:21
TheHighChild	I just want voicemail so I don't miss any interviews	10:21
TheHighChild	oh ok	10:21
TheHighChild	Just looking for an answering machine. lol.Might have to run something with Wine	10:21
wolfmanz	hmmm well i dont know how your honna do that with a SB card	10:22
oomph	is your phone VoIP?	10:22
TheHighChild	no, landline	10:22
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TheHighChild	the card is only so I can switch sound outputs easily from speak to headphone. I'm in the early stages	10:22
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oomph	how do you plan to forward the landline calls to your PC?	10:23
TheHighChild	I plan to route them through my PC	10:23
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AegeanLinux	!Pastebin > apeman2020	10:23
oomph	just using a modem?	10:23
TheHighChild	Yeah	10:23
TheHighChild	http://linuxgazette.net/120/smith.html	10:24
wolfmanz	that looks like alot of work you should just by a answering machine	10:26
TheHighChild	lol. It's about pwning. Ultimately I want to have it reference incoming callswith an addressbook, add them and then forward calls based on rules	10:27
TheHighChild	If I wanted to just buy an answering machine, I would probably be using a mac, or worse, right now	10:27
oomph	http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Communications/Fax/TkVoice-066.shtml	10:28
arso	is skype on linux as good as windowS?	10:28
arso	!skype	10:28
ubotu	To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto	10:28
oomph	yeah	10:28
arso	cul	10:28
oomph	skype is pretty good on linux	10:28
arso	its awesome, sound quality rox	10:28
TheHighChild	Nice! THanks oomph	10:29
AegeanLinux	MilhousePunkRock: how did the sound theme go?	10:29
TheHighChild	I have a landline with my DSL and it's one hundreds of resumes. I don't really trust broadband enough to replace my landline	10:29
Ace2005	hi AegeanLinux	10:29
AegeanLinux	hi Ace2005	10:29
Ace2005	brb	10:29
MilhousePunkRock	AegeanLinux: I am checking it now... The "female robot voice" is too robotic for me though	10:29
AegeanLinux	:D Maybe that's the point ;)	10:29
AegeanLinux	just a thought :D	10:30
Lynoure	Sometimes skype sound quality is horrible (eapecially with long distances, busy time of the day and no static public port on either skype client)	10:30
oomph	arso i had an issue with skype not working sometimes and having to reboot	10:30
oomph	but i think it was fixed in the last release	10:30
arso	oomph: how do i instal it/	10:30
arso	oomph: its not available with apt-get or synaptic right?	10:30
oomph	there is a source you can i believe	10:31
wolfmanz	easy ubuntu will install skype as well	10:31
arso	how	10:31
Ace2005	ok i'm back	10:32
wolfmanz	arso you want skype?	10:32
arso	ya	10:32
wolfmanz	goto google and do a search for easy ubuntu	10:32
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arso	k	10:32
wolfmanz	when you get that installed it will do skype for you along with a bunch of other stuff if ya want	10:32
AegeanLinux	!easyubuntu > arso	10:33
wolfmanz	i just used it to get all my codecs for video lol it worked well for that	10:33
Ace2005	or you could search for ubuntu skybe deb sources list, or source list generator skype	10:33
arso	interesting	10:33
arso	easyubuntu is safe?	10:33
oomph	getautomatix has skype too i believe	10:33
wolfmanz	wished i would have known about easy ubuntu whenj i first installed kubuntu would have saved mne alot of questions lol	10:34
oomph	arso dunno i never used easy ubuntu	10:34
oomph	arso ive used automatix with no problems but ive heard its buggy and broken a few installs	10:34
arso	!automatix	10:34
ubotu	Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.	10:34
oomph	worked for me though	10:35
arso	ic	10:35
Ace2005	for skype add this to your sources list: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free	10:35
Ace2005	i think its the best way	10:35
arso	i am in easyubuntu now	10:36
MilhousePunkRock	AegeanLinux: The "female voice media" was almost, what I am looking for...	10:36
oomph	Ace2005 is probably right	10:36
Ace2005	See all you have to do is google: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cokezero&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=Swiftfox:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a	10:36
Ace2005	its the third result	10:37
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Ace2005	what the hell, why is that search for coke zero?!?!?	10:38
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oomph	anyone here know how to add a secondary language?	10:38
Ace2005	Sorry about that, it should be this one: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&hs=5il&client=firefox-a&rls=Swiftfox:en-US:unofficial&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=ubuntu+skype+deb+sources+list&spell=1	10:38
oomph	for example: i want a desktop in spanish for my cousin to use	10:39
oomph	i dunno how to enable that :P	10:39
MilhousePunkRock	oomph: I guess you would create another user account and change the language there...	10:39
nrdb	I am trying to get a firewall to work. I have setup iptables what I think is correct. I can ping both the firewal NICs but cant ping the ADSL modem. I put LOG actions in all iptables chains, but the ping isn't showing in any of the chains :( how can this be.	10:39
oomph	perhaps	10:40
MilhousePunkRock	oomph: Do you like the band that happens to have the same name?	10:41
vigilante_	do I need cipherfunk for win32, or is that in universe/multiverse also?	10:41
oomph	MilhousePunkRock never heard of them actually, oomph has been my FPS name when I smurf	10:41
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oomph	been using it since quakeworld, heh	10:42
MilhousePunkRock	Hehe...	10:42
purple	does anyone get the 537epmodem to work under kubuntu?	10:42
MilhousePunkRock	Did you try to create a new account and change the language there?	10:42
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oomph	im gonna try that in a sec	10:43
oomph	im installing automatix on it now :P	10:43
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Ellie1	hi	10:43
Ellie1	how ca i enable a standby mode in kubuntu?	10:44
oomph	anyone feel like playing teg? im bored :P	10:45
wolfmanz	teg?	10:45
vigilante_	how soon will kde 3.5.3 move over to stable?	10:45
arso	ok i installed skype	10:45
arso	when i try to call	10:45
oomph	http://teg.sourceforge.net/	10:45
arso	"problem with sound device"	10:46
oomph	http://195.162.205.90/jteg/	10:46
AegeanLinux	vigilante_: 3.5.4 is out ;)	10:46
oomph	its pretty fun :P	10:46
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arso	how can i find out wats wrong with my audio device	10:46
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arso	heeeelp\	10:47
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vigilante_	AegeanLinux: hehe, well, not in kubuntu yet	10:47
AegeanLinux	arso: alsaconf ?	10:47
vigilante_	thats what I meant	10:47
arso	AegeanLinux: ?wat?	10:47
AegeanLinux	Konsole --> sudo alsaconf	10:47
AegeanLinux	vigilante_: This is Kubuntu, probebly 6 months	10:48
arso	sudo alsaconf	10:48
arso	sudo: alsaconf: command not found	10:48
AegeanLinux	dang	10:48
arso	ffx ost rox	10:48
arso	so , wats alsaconf for?>	10:49
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AegeanLinux	alsaconf	10:49
vigilante_	AegeanLinux: 6 months for 3.5.4 you mean? (I just want 3.5.3)	10:49
arso	!alsaconf	10:50
ubotu	I know nothing about alsaconf - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	10:50
AegeanLinux	ALSA CONFIGURATOR ?	10:50
AegeanLinux	? version 1.0.10 ?	10:50
AegeanLinux	? ?	10:50
AegeanLinux	? This script is a configurator for ?	10:50
AegeanLinux	? Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) driver. ?	10:50
AegeanLinux	?	10:50
arso	okay?	10:50
wolfmanz	arso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype	10:53
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arso	yjnc	10:54
arso	thnx*	10:54
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vigilante_	AegeanLinux: so should I add the extra kubuntu kde repo if I want 3.5.3?	10:55
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oomph	MilhousePunkRock adding a user doesnt give option for spanish	10:55
AegeanLinux	vigilante_: I would not warry about KDE 3.5.3	10:55
oomph	at least in xubuntu	10:55
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AegeanLinux	not much use of it :D	10:55
vigilante_	AegeanLinux: it has bug fixes	10:55
MilhousePunkRock	oomph: Well, I am only "familiar" with KDE, but you probably have to install the locale first	10:56
vigilante_	I will wait though	10:56
vigilante_	Ok, what about media support, should I add PLF, Cipherfunk, or sevseas for needed for libdvd win32 and such?	10:56
arso	oh screw it	10:57
arso	i;ll use it on windows	10:57
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oomph	yeah	10:57
oomph	i may try that as well	10:57
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AegeanLinux	vigilante_: If you talk like that , KDE 3.5.4 has bug fixes :D	10:58
AegeanLinux	BRB,	10:58
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nrdb	I am trying to get a firewall to work. I have setup iptables what I think is correct. I can ping both the firewal NICs but cant ping the ADSL modem. I put LOG actions in all iptables chains, but the ping isn't showing in any of the chains :( how can this be.	11:04
AegeanLinux	@ apeman2020 Thanks again man!	11:06
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yml	Hello goodmorning from Paris,	11:10
Ace2005	Good Morning :)	11:11
yml	I am almost ready to format yet another computer with windows pre installed	11:12
apeman2020	what is the command for starting and stopping apache again?	11:12
tsdgeos	/etc/init.d/httpd restart	11:12
tsdgeos	guessing	11:12
tsdgeos	with sudo	11:12
yml	I am so far using a a live cd of Kubuntu and I trying to get the wireless working	11:13
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yml	so far with limited success the wireless card is shown iwconfig	11:14
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yml	I used wlassitant but it is failling without giving me much usefull information	11:15
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MilhousePunkRock	yml: On the Live CD I managed to connect to the WiFi with the "Radio network assistant" (probably a wrong translation)	11:15
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MilhousePunkRock	yml: Do you know your wireless device's chipset?	11:16
yml	How can I know this?	11:16
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yml	iwconfig send me back ipw2100 as nickname for this conection	11:17
MilhousePunkRock	yml: So this would be your driver http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/ (if it's not included in Kubuntu)	11:19
vigilante_	AegeanLinux: some reason not to update to 3.5.3?	11:20
tsdgeos	MilhousePunkRock: sure it's not inlcuded?	11:20
yml	MilhousePunkRock> Since iwconfig detects it does that means that this driver is installed?	11:21
tsdgeos	apt-file search ipw2100.ko tells me the linux-image packages include it	11:21
tsdgeos	maybe he just needs the firmaware	11:21
MilhousePunkRock	tsdgeos, yml: That's why I said "_IF_ it's not included", my Wireless NIC uses madwifi	11:22
tsdgeos	MilhousePunkRock: ah :-D did not see the if :D	11:22
MilhousePunkRock	yml: Maybe it's having troube with the encryption?	11:22
MilhousePunkRock	brb Coffee Refil	11:22
MilhousePunkRock	yml: What encryption do you use on your WLAN?	11:24
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yml	MilhousePunkRock>I am using wep	11:24
MilhousePunkRock	And you are still on the LiveCD?	11:25
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yml	MilhousePunkRock>Yes, it is the first time I am using this. And it it great	11:26
vigilante_	anybody use kxdocker from Edgy? (v1.1.4)	11:26
MilhousePunkRock	yml: The reason why I chose Kubuntu was that it in fact recognised my WLAN on the LiveCD already, all I had to do was entering the WEP key	11:27
yml	MilhousePunkRock> This is why I am trying kubuntu :-)	11:28
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MilhousePunkRock	Since tsdgeos said, the drivers you need were included, why not give it a shot and install it, yml? Setting up the WLAN for an installed system shouln't be too hard...	11:30
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voicu	Can I mount an ext3 partition RW for anyone?	11:31
yml	MilhousePunkRock> This is where I am I found on the link you sent some debian package	11:31
yml	stable, testing , unstable	11:31
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MilhousePunkRock	yml: Maybe you don't even need those... I am not sure what of it is already included...	11:32
yml	What do you think I need to do?	11:33
yml	I am not really familiar with debian or ubuntu architecture or packaging system	11:33
MilhousePunkRock	yml: You should install Kubuntu and see how your Wireless behaves than... Once you have it set up you come back here and we can try to make it work...	11:33
yml	I am used to mandrake	11:33
yml	ok I see but I would like to see before :-) because this is the exact reason I am going to move to kubuntu, if it work. I have a pretty old version of mandrake where I never manage to get the wireless working.	11:35
yml	Thank you for your help	11:36
MilhousePunkRock	yml: I am sure it is possible, since you even have native drivers and they already seem to be included... It's just some fine tuning (I hope)...	11:36
yml	ok great this is giving me hope	11:37
MilhousePunkRock	yml: BTW, how are you here if you Wireless doesn't work yet?	11:38
yml	many computer at home	11:38
yml	:-)	11:38
yml	also the lan is working just fine from the live cd	11:38
MilhousePunkRock	Ah, ok.. I thought you might be using ethernet now...	11:38
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MilhousePunkRock	yml: Maybe that's why wireless doesn't work, since you can only have one DHCP instance at a time AFAIK (I might be wrong though)	11:39
yml	I am not using DHCP	11:39
yml	but fix IP	11:40
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fede	ciao. sono in prova	11:40
MilhousePunkRock	!it	11:40
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	11:40
Tm_T	ciao a tutti!	11:41
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Tm_T	I apologize, that won't happen again	11:41
yml	Cu	11:42
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voicu	Can someone tell me how do I mount an ext3 partition so that any user can write it? I mean creating directories in the root of the partition, etc	11:45
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BusMaster	hi..I just installed Kubuntu and some settings are not the same as stock KDE 3.5 Is there a way to go back to the original settings?	11:47
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pulsar_	Hi.	11:48
pulsar_	Any firefox users in here?	11:48
Martijn81	voicu: why would one need permission to make directories in root? You should just give them there own /home/user place	11:49
Martijn81	* their	11:50
abattoir	BusMaster: like konqueror's profile for eg.?	11:50
BusMaster	abattoir: exactly	11:50
abattoir	BusMaster: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror	11:50
BusMaster	abattoir: thanks	11:51
abattoir	BusMaster: :)	11:51
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voicu	Martijn81: i'm not talking about the / root, the root of another partition I have. It's mounted in /hd/hdb4 and doesn't give access to anyone but root.	11:53
abattoir	pulsar_: what do you want to know?	11:54
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pulsar_	Any freshly installed firefox from mozilla.com is branded by default, and I'd like to know why to get rid of it. :)	11:54
abattoir	pulsar_: 'branded'.... with?	11:55
vodex	Hiya, computing expert but linux newb here -how do I enable sound with a fresh install? I have mboard-based sound but also a PCI card, can't get any sound to work at all	11:55
Martijn81	voicu: oops, sorry about that. Yeah that level of permission is configured in the file /etc/fstab	11:55
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pulsar_	abattoir: Ubuntu's customization (startpage, bookmarks, icon)	11:55
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IMEC	how can i get the keyboard layout (on kde of course)to change on alt_shift? it does not seem to work when i change it from there...	11:56
abattoir	pulsar_: even the ones from mozilla.com?	11:56
pulsar_	abattoir: Yes. I downloaded firefox-1.5.0.5.tar.gz, untarred it into /opt, mv'ed my profile and /etc/firefox out of the way and voila: When starting it, it's branded.	11:57
IMEC	also i have put Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"	11:57
IMEC	in xorg.conf but that does not seam to work either	11:58
abattoir	pulsar_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199193	11:58
voicu	Martijn81: I know about /etc/fstab but what do I write? I looked on the net, in man pages. Nothing about that. Plus, Kubuntu configured it during the initial install. Shouldn't that make at least readable?	11:58
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pulsar_	abattoir: Yeaah, I know that I can change that icon afterwards. But I'd expect a fresh installed mozilla.com firefox to have it already shipped.	11:59
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vodex	!sound	11:59
ubotu	If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems	11:59
grothesk	Is someone familiar with the kde 3.5.4 packages? Riddell maybe?	12:00
Martijn81	voicu: nope, the installation doesn't know what kind of files are located there so it's assumed to be safer to not grant permission	12:00
Martijn81	!fstab	12:00
ubotu	The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions	12:00
abattoir	pulsar_: i guess you should ask mozilla or the ubuntu devs about that...	12:00
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pulsar_	I'll give it a try, abattoir. Thanks for your help anyway.	12:02
abattoir	pulsar_: np :)	12:02
voicu	I already read that page. In fstab the mount option is set to 'defaults'. That makes it rw (at least considering man pages and so on) because fstab can't tell the difference between my / partition and the /hd/hdb4 one. I don't get it.	12:03
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pc22	whats the easiest ftp server to use (graphic) if ever?	12:07
Martijn81	voicu: why have you created /hd/hdx? I think it should be in /media/hdx	12:07
Martijn81	as mount point that is	12:07
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voicu	Martijn81: because it's shorter and I don't like the /media stuff because it reminds me of M$ :D	12:08
Martijn81	lol	12:08
Martijn81	try /media, it might fix this	12:08
voicu	It will not	12:08
voicu	The mount point doesn't matter	12:09
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voicu	Does anyone actually know about fstab or am I losing my time? Please help if you can?	12:11
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abattoir	voicu: what i generally do is mount it, and then change permissions for the mounted folder through konqueror(as root)... dont know if it applies to you though.	12:12
Martijn81	i know only the basics voicu, and i don't see where you have having a problem (but that can be me)	12:13
abattoir	voicu: so in your case, i'd open up konq. as root, and rt. click on /hd/hdx and then change its permissions.	12:13
vodex	Can anyone help me with sound in k 6.0.6?	12:13
voicu	The properties of the folder don't affect the permissions of the partition	12:13
IMEC	how can i get the keyboard layout tool(on kde of course)to change on alt_shift? it does not seem to work when i change it from there. Also i have put Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"	12:13
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voicu	i.e. konq says 777 as perms for /hd/hdb4	12:14
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voicu	But when I click on it, I get permission denied	12:14
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abattoir	voicu: you opened it as root right?	12:14
Martijn81	voicu	12:14
txus	hi everyboidy	12:14
abattoir	voicu: 'kdesu konqueror'	12:14
voicu	right, root	12:14
voicu	i did	12:14
Martijn81	voicu: but the partition is mounted, right?	12:15
voicu	It's not that	12:15
voicu	lol	12:15
voicu	yes	12:15
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txus	have any modpython under apache2 running??	12:15
abattoir	voicu: right click, properties, permissions...	12:15
txus	sorry for my english ;)	12:15
abattoir	voicu: you can change its ownership, if you want, or give everyone read and write access.	12:16
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pulsar_	abattoir: JFTR: Problem solved. It wasn't firefox to blame, but the K-Menu ignoring PATH order and therefore starting ubuntu's firefox instead of link in /usr/local/bin/.	12:16
voicu	abattoir: It doesn't matter what are the permissions of the directory. The partition has it's own ones from fstab or mount or whatever	12:16
voicu	I tried konq(root) with properties. It shows 777 on the directory	12:17
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voicu	So does ls -l	12:17
abattoir	pulsar_: aah, ok, so the old firefox was still being launched... i really was surprised when you said firefox from mozilla.com came 'branded' :)	12:17
abattoir	voicu: that's what i do, and it works for me, so thought i'd help, that's all. :)	12:18
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voicu	abattoir: you did that with partitions?	12:18
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abattoir	voicu: yes, i'd open up konq. as root, go to /media and rt. click on the mounted 'folders'	12:19
pulsar_	abattoir: Probably as surprised as I. :) "which firefox" correctly pointed to my local link, but "firefox" in K-Menu would start /usr/bin/firefox (of which I didn't know it's installed).	12:19
abattoir	pulsar_: oh, ok :)	12:20
voicu	The problem is in fstab, I'm sure	12:20
pulsar_	Should I file this as a bug? Or is there some reason behind this behaviour?	12:20
abattoir	voicu: did you put 'Apply changes to all subfolders and their contents' ?	12:21
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abattoir	pulsar_: i think the kmenu wasnt updated properly	12:21
abattoir	pulsar_: also, i dont know if firefox(from the tar.gz) 'installs' itself, and hence gets added to the menu...	12:22
pulsar_	abattoir: In which respect? It was an entry I created myself, pointing just to "firefox" with no path attached.	12:22
voicu	abattoir: doesn't matter	12:22
Martijn81	voicu: what is the ownership of /hd/hdthinghere and are you the only person on the system who needs the access?	12:23
grothesk	Who has tried to install kde 3.5.4? And how was the result?	12:23
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Martijn81	voicu: if you're the only one i would just: sudo chown voicu /hd/hdx it to you	12:24
voicu	Martijn81: I need to let at least 2 users write anything and anywhere on that partition.	12:24
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voicu	But again, chown-ing the direcotory won't affect the partition	12:25
abattoir	w/ a -R, my guess is it would..	12:26
grothesk	voicu: Paste your fstab to phpfi.com	12:26
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voicu	abattoir: tried that	12:26
AegeanLinux	Hi Peoples	12:26
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voicu	grothesk: http://www.phpfi.com/136080	12:28
grothesk	LOL	12:28
grothesk	You are mountin to the same directory the device already has.	12:29
voicu	what?	12:29
bbt	hmm after the 6th complete reinstall, i think im set now	12:29
voicu	ha?	12:29
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voicu	well, yeah, is that a problem?	12:29
grothesk	/dev/hdb4 /your/mountpoint ext3 defaults 0 2	12:30
abattoir	grothesk: what's wrong in /hd ?	12:30
voicu	it's /hd/hdb4, so it shouldn't be a problem	12:30
grothesk	Oh, sorry...	12:30
grothesk	<--- Tired...	12:31
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voicu	:)	12:31
andriijas	are there any neat ftp clients for kubuntu?	12:31
voicu	so, do you have any idea what could i do?	12:31
grothesk	ls -la /hd/hdb4	12:31
voicu	some magic mount option?	12:31
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voicu	As a normal user I can't even access the partition	12:31
abattoir	andriijas: kbear	12:32
abattoir	!info kbear	12:32
ubotu	kbear: graphical ftp client for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-13ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2401 kB, installed size 8604 kB	12:32
grothesk	voicu: ls -la /hd/hdb4	12:32
voicu	just a sec	12:33
voicu	grothesk: http://www.phpfi.com/136081	12:34
grothesk	And 'stuff' is on that partion?	12:34
voicu	yep	12:34
voicu	but cd-ing doesn't work	12:34
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vigilante_	Anyone upgrade to 3.5.3? (good/bad, any issues)	12:36
osoh	hi all	12:36
osoh	vigilante_: I've upgraded to 3.5.3 and I've got no issues	12:36
osoh	but don't take it for granted :P	12:37
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voicu	Do I need to pe part of a group or something?	12:40
voicu	Like lp for ntfs access?	12:41
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ricardo	hi verybody.....	12:52
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ricardo	how do you make konverstion to automatically connect at startup?	12:53
ricardo	and to join a certain list of channels automatically also...	12:53
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abattoir	ricardo: File->Server List ->Edit->Connect on Application startup	12:55
abattoir	ricardo: you can specify autojoin channels there too.	12:55
ricardo	abattoir: thanx!!!	12:55
abattoir	ricardo: :)	12:55
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vigilante_	Hi all, Im installing sun jave jre in Adept, its stuck, there is a screen Im supposed to read an accept, but I cant access it, help please?	12:57
abattoir	vigilante_: unfortunately adept cant handle interactivity w/ the terminal atm...	12:58
vigilante_	"Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices."	12:58
abattoir	vigilante_: so please use the command line... i.e apt-get or aptitude	12:58
vigilante_	abattoir: so should we even be using Adept, that seems to be a big problem, especially for newbies that don't know to ask, or use cli	12:59
vigilante_	Im switching to smart or synaptic asap	12:59
ricardo	abattoir: another quick question...how do i make kopepe to automatically login without passing for kwallet?	12:59
abattoir	vigilante_: sun java is probably the only package... and i'm sure smart's gui and synaptic dont handle it better	12:59
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Konstable	can someone recommend me a good sftp client	01:00
Konstable	with a gui	01:00
abattoir	ricardo: iirc, kwallet comes up only once... after you set it up, i dont think it'd come again... but then, i just disable it, so am not sure...	01:00
vigilante_	abattoir: there may be other non-free things with same problem, anyway, I just lost half hour of downloads due to that problem :(	01:00
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abattoir	vigilante_: dont worry, the file should already be downloaded, you might still be able to avoid the redownload	01:01
abattoir	Konstable: kbear ???	01:01
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abattoir	vigilante_: open up a terminal, 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives'	01:02
abattoir	vigilante_: check if you have the sun java deb there.	01:02
Konstable	abattoir: Thanks	01:03
abattoir	Konstable: np :)	01:03
vigilante_	abattoir: yes, it is there, but the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre	01:03
vigilante_	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	01:04
vigilante_	cant relaunch adept either	01:04
abattoir	vigilante_: make sure adept is closed	01:04
abattoir	vigilante_: 'sudo killall adept'	01:05
abattoir	vigilante_: also make sure apt-get/synaptic etc. arent running in the bg either	01:05
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ubuntu	hi all	01:08
vigilante_	abattoir: so whats the cli command to install all in the cache?	01:08
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Pointwood	hi, I upgraded to dapper (apt-get dist-upgrade) and now it stalls when booting. It stalls right after "Checking battery state... [OK] "	01:10
Pointwood	anyone know of a solution to that?	01:10
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abattoir	vigilante_: 'sudo apt-get install <nameofpackage>' should do it...	01:14
abattoir	vigilante_: if the package installation wasnt completed, as i suspect, then 'sudo apt-get -f install'	01:14
abattoir	should complete the process	01:14
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vigilante_	abattoir: ok, they all downloaded already... so I just enter that second command eh	01:15
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steveire	why don't more people use aptitude?	01:15
vigilante_	that worked abattoir, thx	01:15
vigilante_	steveire: I don't like it as much as Synaptic or SMART	01:16
vigilante_	its still missing features, and has problems	01:16
rlj	i have a weird problem where the left control key somehow has stopped working (possibly after i installed keytouch). the right one is fine and it's not affected by hardware (works in other os's). any ideas?	01:16
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vigilante_	steveire: is there a gui to aptitude?	01:16
vigilante_	I thought you were talking about Adept	01:17
steveire	yes but it's text based you can still use the mouse though. sudo aptitude	01:17
steveire	I just sudo aptitude install package or sudo aptitude purge package. That also removes unused dependant packages	01:17
vigilante_	I prefer SMART, cause it downloads in parallel from one server, goes much faster than either synaptic or adept	01:18
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steveire	I wouldn't even notice. I just type install the package and browse until I remember I did that.	01:22
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steveire	I have to say though that I like the tags system in adept. If it remembered dependancies, I'd use it all the time.	01:24
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MilhousePunkRock	Where do I find the Konversation-config file again?	01:28
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Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: locate konversationrc?	01:28
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Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: ~/.kde/share/apps/config/konversationrc, if i remember correctly	01:29
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MilhousePunkRock	~/.kde/share/config it is.. Thx anyway, Hobbsee	01:31
abattoir	hello MilhousePunkRock, Hobbsee :)	01:31
MilhousePunkRock	Hey abattoir!	01:32
abattoir	MilhousePunkRock: lost your p/d again :P ?	01:32
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Hobbsee	hi abattoir	01:32
slow-motion	hallo	01:33
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: nice :)	01:33
bbw	hallo	01:33
Hobbsee	oh yeah, that's right. no /apps/	01:33
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bbw	Does someone now how to install quake 4	01:33
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MilhousePunkRock	abattoir: No, but I want to make this identity my default now, so it autoconnects when I launch Konv	01:34
abattoir	MilhousePunkRock: aah, ok :)	01:34
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MilhousePunkRock	-r	01:35
gnomefreak	good evening Hobbsee ;)	01:35
Hobbsee	hi gnomefreak	01:35
kmi	hello... I need a little help... I created a .Xmodmap in my home, but it had no effect. where should I put it?	01:35
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laks2	hello there. Suddenly my home-folder is showing up as a file and i have no way to login. Is this a normal thing? :)	01:38
MilhousePunkRock	Hmmm, editing the config file while Konv was open did not work, I should have known...	01:38
MilhousePunkRock	Besides that, enabling one little check box was all that was needed...	01:39
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MilhousePunkRock	laks2: Did you change permissions on it?	01:39
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steveire	laks2: Did you make any changes recently?	01:40
laks2	I edited .bash_profile as the last thing before rebooting	01:40
laks2	it acted weird however	01:41
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MilhousePunkRock	laks2: If you move your mouse over home, what do the permissions look like?	01:43
laks2	----rwS-w-	01:44
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MilhousePunkRock	Well, mine look like drwxr-xr-x	01:45
MilhousePunkRock	So yours are probably messed up...	01:45
MilhousePunkRock	abattoir: You there? Can you tell laks2 how to get his original permissions back on /home	01:46
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me	how do I change the desktop resolution?	01:46
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MilhousePunkRock	me: K-Menu--> System Settings --> Hardware --> Display	01:46
me	"The modules Display could not be loaded"	01:47
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me	doesn't work	01:47
me	In 5.10 there used to be a dialog when I right-cliked the desktop	01:48
MilhousePunkRock	me: Other methods are beyond my (anyway limited) knowledge... But someone else might know...	01:49
me	In 6.06 it seems to be gone	01:49
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me	I've been waiting for an answer on the forums for days, noone seems to know	01:49
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MilhousePunkRock	me: What you say about the module not being loaded sounds like an error to me though. Did you try reconfiguring your xserver?	01:50
Philip5	me: check if you have different resolution modes right now set... press ctrl+alt and +	01:50
me	my xserver works fine, I just can't find the dialog in kubuntu, in gnome it works without a problem	01:50
me	ctrl++ and ctrl+- works	01:51
me	BUT it doesnt change my desktop	01:51
me	just the screen	01:51
me	MilhousePunkRock: it is an error	01:51
me	I am just looking for that dialog that used to be there in 5.10	01:51
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me	"The module Display could not be loaded: The diagnostics is: Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module; You have old third party modules lying around"	01:52
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Philip5	me: what do you mean by desktop to change if not the screen?	01:53
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me	Well the desktop is still 1280x1024, wheres my desktop has for example a resolution of 1024x768 when I change it with the ctrl+ keys, so I have a larger desktop than my screen can handle	01:53
me	that means that my screen scrolls around the desktop when I hit the borders with my mouse	01:54
Philip5	aha	01:54
jpozlovsky	hi all! I have installed Kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop Prestigio Visconte 1200 (same as Uniwill 223II0) and have one issue: how can I get to work buttons for increaing/decresing volume (Fn+F5,Fn+F6)? They works prefectly in Gnome, but not in KDE. Thanks!)	01:55
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bbw	Does someone now how to install quake 4	01:55
MilhousePunkRock	jpozlovsky: KMilo might be what you are looking for	01:55
MilhousePunkRock	!kmilo	01:56
ubotu	I know nothing about kmilo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	01:56
MilhousePunkRock	!info kmilo	01:56
ubotu	kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 524 kB	01:56
arso	any psp users here	01:56
arso	i cant find any video converter	01:56
jpozlovsky	thanks very much!	01:56
arso	that converts videos to psp's mp4	01:56
MilhousePunkRock	you're welcome, jpozlovsky	01:56
bbw	Does someone now how to install quake 4 under linux , i have downloaded windows version of quake 4 , do i need a run file , PLease Help	01:56
MilhousePunkRock	jpozlovsky: KMilo has a really nice On Screen Display too...	01:57
menno_	Hi. i'm unable to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu on my second computer. i get a Kernel Panic. Somebody any suggestions?	01:57
MilhousePunkRock	menno_: Did you check the integrity of the installation medium?	01:57
arso	anyone,............help	01:57
bbw	arso dunno	01:58
bbw	sorry	01:58
menno_	MilhousePunkRock: yes, because i used the same CD on my first computer too	01:58
menno_	however Knoppix runs fine	01:58
arso	bbw: np :0	01:58
MilhousePunkRock	Oh, ok... Maybe something went wrong during the install, menno_?	01:58
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me	menno_: do you get the error after install is complete?	01:59
menno_	i can't get passed the beginning procedure	01:59
yamal	bbw: download the linux runtime, then install as instructed	01:59
E[m] ess	well this is wierd...	01:59
bbw	yamal where can i find it	01:59
E[m] ess	i did a big 140mb update and now my internet doesnt conenct till i randomly play witht he settings	02:00
menno_	i tried linux acpi=off also	02:00
E[m] ess	no dns, but i can ping ip's fine	02:00
yamal	bbw: google? quake4 website?	02:00
E[m] ess	andnthen i play around in the settings for the network and it works after a bit, any ideas?	02:00
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bbw	yamal oke thanks	02:00
menno_	MilhousePunkRock: and i took away the SCSI card and disabled USB in the bios	02:01
yamal	bbw: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/	02:01
MilhousePunkRock	menno_: Maybe the alternate CD will do it?	02:02
menno_	MilhousePunkRock: the message is: Kernel panic -not syncing:VFS:unable to mount fs on unknown-block (8,1)	02:02
menno_	MilhousePunkRock: after i used linux acpi=off	02:02
MilhousePunkRock	menno_: I am sure someone knows how to deal with that, I unfortunately don't	02:02
menno_	MilhousePunkRock: i'll try again later then, thanks sofar :)	02:03
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larson9999	i use acpi=noirq, i think.	02:03
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me	menno_: Usually means the root filesystem is on the wrong partition	02:03
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me	try root=/dev/hdxx options	02:03
arso	!tar	02:03
ubotu	Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)	02:03
me	where you substitute xx with the proper values	02:04
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bbw	yanal thanks ,I finaly can install it	02:04
bbw	yamal thanks ,I finaly can install it	02:04
mikearthur	anyone know which package I'd find the mach64 kernel DRM module?	02:04
MetaMorfoziS	how can i disable the desktop sharing?	02:04
MetaMorfoziS	often 30minutes, a human connects to me	02:05
MetaMorfoziS	from diffrent hosts, sometimes empty host...	02:05
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bubblenut	Hi, how do I configure beagle with kubuntu?	02:06
menno_	me: ok. i have windows 98 installed	02:06
me	menno_: ?	02:07
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menno_	me: sorry i was occupied, but i was saying that my system seems normal and working with windows98	02:09
menno_	me: and i wanted to install Kubuntu on the second drive	02:09
me	Ah	02:09
me	menno_: you meant he 2nd physical drive, or just a second partition	02:10
menno_	me: 2nd physical drive	02:10
AegeanLinux	!pzip	02:10
ubotu	I know nothing about pzip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	02:10
AegeanLinux	!p7zip	02:10
ubotu	I know nothing about p7zip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	02:10
AegeanLinux	!7zip	02:10
ubotu	I know nothing about 7zip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	02:10
AegeanLinux	!7z	02:10
me	good	02:10
ubotu	Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)	02:10
me	menno_: so the root filesystem should probably be on /dev/hdb1 if its is a IDE drive	02:11
E[m] ess	i isntalled kmyfirewall last nigth, and now when i boot i dnt have dns :S	02:11
me	menno_: Do you have both drives installed when installing ubuntu or do you take one of them out	02:11
larson9999	menno_: i'd reverse that. i think it's preferrable to move the windows installation to the slave drive and install linux on the master. or change your bois to boot the slave instead of the master.	02:11
me	larson9999: I always had windows 98 on the master	02:12
me	larson9999: what's wrong with that?	02:12
me	larson9999: doesn't windows98 complain when its not on the first partition of the first drive?	02:12
menno_	they are both IDE's	02:13
larson9999	me: i just find there are fewer issues with windows on the slave.	02:13
me	larson9999: what sort of issues do you get?	02:13
larson9999	me: which drive gets the linux boot loader	02:13
me	larson9999: /dev/hda	02:14
me	larson9999: which is not a problem with win98, but it is with xp	02:14
menno_	i'm sorry to quit here, but the baby is awake and making loud noises! i'll try again later.	02:14
larson9999	me: yes, that's the main problem.	02:14
me	larson9999: :)	02:14
me	menno_: try adding a root=/dev/hdb1 option when booting	02:14
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larson9999	me: the boot loader. quite a few people who don't take that advice come to me with an xp install they can't boot.	02:15
larson9999	me: and it's such an easy thing to do, why not?	02:15
me	larson9999: true	02:15
pc22	good morning	02:15
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larson9999	want to remove the linux drive or it gets borked somehow, just remove it and xp boots just fine.	02:16
jpozlovsky	MilhousePunkRock, thanks for hint about KMilo. I have realized that it was already installed on my system, so it probably needs some configuration to get to work. But I can't find where I should configure it?	02:17
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MilhousePunkRock	jpozlovsky: Did you look at Laptop & Power under Hardware in your System Settings?	02:18
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menno_	me: ok thanks i'll try that but now i have to go. thanks sofar bye	02:19
jpozlovsky	MilhousePunkRock: yes, but there is only configuration regarding to power management and then some configuration regarding to IBM Thinkpad and Sony Vaio. But I have Prestigio (Uniwill)..	02:19
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MilhousePunkRock	jpozlovsky: Too bad... I am lucky enough to actually have a ThinkPad (although it's troublesome when it comes to powermanagement)	02:21
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jpozlovsky	MilhousePunkRock: Is here some other way how to configure it manually? Since in Gnome this buttons works right, there should be some way how to get them work in KDE :)	02:24
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MilhousePunkRock	jpozlovsky: It should work with KMilo, try to locate a readme or howto for it...	02:25
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jpozlovsky	MilhousePunkRock: okay	02:25
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ninniuz	hello how to test edgy eft?	02:26
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yamal	anybody using pc102 or pc104 keyboard with international (intl or alt-intl) layout?	02:28
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hugelmopf	jpozlovsky: are you talking about a laptop hotkey?	02:29
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Hobbsee	ninniuz: if you need to ask, you shouldnt be testing.	02:31
jpozlovsky	hugelmopf: I need to get in work keys for increasing/decreasing volume (Fn+F5, Fn+F6) on my Prestigio Visconte laptop	02:31
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Hobbsee	jpozlovsky: they're not autodetected?	02:32
jpozlovsky	Hobbsee: they work properly in Gnome, but not in KDE	02:32
hugelmopf	jpozlovsky: you can try the keyboard layouts in "System Settings" - "Regional & Accessibility" - "Keyboard Layout", there are quite a few laptop keyboards amongst them and these keys are generic.	02:33
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Hobbsee	jpozlovsky: right. give me a sec, we're on the lookout for shortcut keys that arent working.	02:33
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Hobbsee	jpozlovsky: if youv'e got a bit of time, could you do us a favour, and add your system to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaRenko/Keycodes ?	02:36
Hobbsee	jpozlovsky: it's a working list of all the keys on different modules, which we're working to get configured out of the box in edgy	02:36
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jpozlovsky	Hobbsee: ok, will doo.	02:37
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MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: How far is edgy? Can you push it a little?	02:39
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Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: it's due in late october, no we cant push it.	02:39
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: nothing's stopping you updating, except breakage	02:39
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Hobbsee	the new kernel is nice though, when it doesnt die.	02:39
Hobbsee	E[m] ess: what internet problem?	02:40
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: oh, and network manager stuff is screwed at the moment, for various forms of wireless	02:40
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MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: Everyone said I should not use the edgy kernel in the dapper enviroment though, under no circumstances	02:40
=== MilhousePunkRock is too lazy to set up a complete edgy system seperately
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: very true. you'd kill your system doing that.	02:40
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: well, then you're a bit too lazy to get the new kernel, no?	02:41
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: wait for a while till edgy is more stable.	02:41
MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: What about compiling my own 2.6.16 kernel from the vanilla source, how likely is that gonna work in my dapper env?	02:41
MilhousePunkRock	2.6.17 that is, of course	02:42
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: equally painful, and you're likely to break your system.	02:42
Hobbsee	gah!!! shoots debhelper	02:42
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cgeo	hey guys i have a problem with firefox.cannot go to edit-preferences for some reason	02:44
=== MilhousePunkRock is even considering switching to another distro with a newer kernel, but he would need to set up everything from scratch again... :-/
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: october isnt that long a wait. besides, edgy should be more stable after sept 7	02:46
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MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: I won't have the time to mess with it after next monday anyway... Would be nice if my Laptop would resume properly by then though...	02:46
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: well, yeah, true.	02:47
steveire	http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/index.html	02:47
steveire	oops	02:47
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Hobbsee	yeah, suspend worked, hibernate failed. the opposite of what usually happens.	02:47
MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: Suspending works just fine, but resuming won't...	02:47
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vigilante_	how do I kill a nickname?	02:48
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gnomefreak	!freenode	02:48
ubotu	freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml	02:48
Hobbsee	!ghost	02:48
ubotu	On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>	02:48
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: yeah, that's the problem i get	02:48
vigilante_	/msg nickserv GHOST vigilante way4lin	02:49
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vigilante_	oops, wrong password anyway :)	02:50
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MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: You don't happen to have Laptop with a Savage IX/C video chip, or even a ThinkPad T23?	02:51
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: nope, toshiba a10 sattelite	02:51
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MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: I know what the problem is with mine, but I don't find any fix other than using a newer kernel...	02:57
Hobbsee	true	02:58
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: you could upgrade to edgy. but stuff is still broken -a nd there are a lot of updates. or you could run gentoo, or another distro, or wait.	02:58
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chris____	Begre die Runde	03:01
gnomefreak	chris____: join #kubuntu-de	03:01
gnomefreak	for dutch	03:01
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reaper	:)	03:04
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mayank	i am getting pairing not allowed in kbluethoothd when i am trying to connect my bluetooth headset. i have pasted my /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19232	03:11
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SonicChao	How can I make konsole windows trasparent?	03:13
mayank	sonicchao: by choosing the transparent schema	03:15
SonicChao	mayank: How would I do that?	03:15
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mayank	settings-> Schema->Transparent Konsole	03:15
SonicChao	mayank: I don't see "Schema"...	03:16
mayank	Sonicchao: Hmm. in konsole what do you see under settings	03:16
SonicChao	mayank: Oh, I thought you ment in KMenu	03:17
SonicChao	mayank: Yes, I have Schma in Konsole...just looked	03:17
mayank	ok, sorry for the confusion.	03:17
JohnFlux_	!mono	03:17
ubotu	I know nothing about mono - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	03:17
SonicChao	mayank: How do I control how transparent it would be?	03:18
xwolf-	select Configure Konsole.. and drag the slidebar	03:18
xwolf-	in the Schema tab	03:18
SonicChao	xwolf-: Ok. Let me try that	03:18
SonicChao	xwolf-: Good. =D Looks great	03:19
SonicChao	Thank you.	03:19
xwolf-	np	03:19
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josh___	what do I type after I uncomment the universe lines in sources.list to update adept?	03:25
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dimsuz	hi! is it ok that some app's icon don't appear in K-menu after install? For example I installed gaim and the only way to start it is to type 'gaim' in console. I found this weird :)	03:26
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jpozlovsky	Hobbsee: I have added my laptop to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaRenko/Keycodes	03:33
dimsuz	what package do I need to install to develop using opengl?	03:33
Hobbsee	jpozlovsky: yay, thankyou :)	03:33
osh_	dimsuz: i'd report it as a bug in launchpad.net	03:34
jpozlovsky	hugelmopf: I have choosed Microsoft Natural Keyboard and buttons for increasing/decreasing volume now works perfectly. thanks :)	03:34
dimsuz	osh_: so this isn't a common behaviour? :)	03:34
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osh_	dimsuz: it shouldn't be. it's something you've installed from the repos? i've seen it too. not common but not uncommon either.	03:36
dimsuz	osh_: yup, apt-get install gaim	03:37
osh_	dimsuz: then report it. I'd say it's a bug.	03:37
dimsuz	osh_: ok! thanks!	03:38
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josh___	howcome apt-get cant find firefox or gaim or others? I have universe and multiverse repositories "unlocked"	03:39
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gnomefreak	josh___: they are both in the main repos make sure you have the cdrom repos # out	03:39
josh___	how do i do that?	03:39
gnomefreak	josh___: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list	03:40
gnomefreak	josh___: when the file opens let me know	03:40
josh___	yep it's open	03:40
gnomefreak	josh___: do you see the first line says cdrom in it?	03:40
Lacerta	can I send a custom messsage to someone who does CTCP version on me? I'm using Konversation.	03:40
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josh___	i dont see it	03:41
gnomefreak	what is the first line of the list?	03:41
josh___	the first few lines of sources.list say this	03:42
josh___	# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:	03:42
josh___	#deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted	03:42
josh___	# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:	03:42
josh___	#deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted	03:42
Guest754	can i get help here with my borked kde?	03:42
gnomefreak	josh___: ok	03:42
josh___	thats the first paragraph	03:42
gnomefreak	josh___: take the # away from all the lines that start with the word deb	03:42
gnomefreak	josh___: the lines that end in universe add a space than the word multiverse	03:43
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gnomefreak	josh___: when thats done save and close it than in terminal type sudo apt-get update	03:44
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josh____	woops kicked out the network cable there	03:46
josh___	done that	03:46
josh___	and saved it	03:46
josh___	thats what I can't understand	03:46
josh___	and did the apt-get update	03:46
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josh____	gnomefreak do I uncomment the deb lines in that first paragraph?	03:47
gnomefreak	josh____: as long as they dont have the word cdrom in them	03:47
josh____	# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:	03:47
josh____	#deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted	03:47
josh____	# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:	03:47
josh____	#deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted	03:47
josh____	thats what I have	03:48
gnomefreak	yes take teh # away	03:48
josh____	ok thanks I'll let you know how I get on	03:48
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Hobbsee	!pastebin	03:48
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	03:48
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gnomefreak	yeah use pastebin too to paste :(	03:48
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gnomefreak	sorry Hobbsee im still kind of sleeping :(	03:49
Hobbsee	it's okay	03:49
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josh____	was that me that all that pastebin stuff is about?	03:49
gnomefreak	yes	03:50
josh____	sorry if it's bad internet manners or whatever	03:50
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josh____	im a little new to all this	03:50
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josh____	yep uncommenting those lines seems to have worked	03:51
cyber_brain_mfkg	is anyone use kvirc???? I need a little help	03:51
josh____	thanks gnome	03:51
cyber_brain_mfkg	kvirc??? anyone???	03:51
cyber_brain_mfkg	for the first time?	03:51
cyber_brain_mfkg	second?	03:52
dimsuz	I installed nvidia-glx-dev, but Qt's configure script still can't find OpenGL. Any hints? :)	03:54
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_rince_	re	04:04
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ubuntu_	hi	04:07
ubuntu_	my hard drive seems to be crashed. i started up and it told me it couldn't find superblock or some inodes	04:08
ubuntu_	there it told me i should execute fsck and this asked me if i want to repair	04:08
ubuntu_	now i cant mount my hard disk no more. i am currently running the live cd	04:09
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ubuntu_	any idea how to access my data?	04:09
osh_	ubuntu: from the backup if your HDD crashed.	04:10
ubuntu_	osh_: so there is nothing more i could try to mount my hard disk?	04:10
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osh_	ubuntu_: try smartmontools and do a check of the disk. that one would probably tell you if the disk is broken.	04:11
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ubuntu_	osh_: now i have smarttools installed	04:13
osh_	run it and have a look. hopefully they'll tell you something.	04:14
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ubuntu_	if it would be no hardware issue. what else can i try to mount my disk before deleting everything by reinstalling?	04:15
osh_	ubuntu_: make sure it's not an lvm-volume that you try to mount from your livecd.	04:16
ubuntu_	afaik i dont have such	04:16
ubuntu_	just simple ext3 partitions	04:17
ubuntu_	i am now trying to run the smarttools short test. frankly speaking i do not realy know ho to read the result	04:19
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josh___	hey guys	04:40
josh___	is there a fleshed out open office with draw and the other progams somewhere?	04:40
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larson9999	josh___: what does fleshed out mean?	04:43
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josh___	well the openoffice I have has only database, presentation, spreadsheet and word	04:44
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dimsuz	almost every apt-get install has this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19242 . Can anyone take a look please?	05:05
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grothesk	dimsuz: Wich program/log file provides these messages?	05:09
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dimsuz	grothesk: almost every apt-get install <any_package>	05:11
dimsuz	grothesk: I get them as stderr output on konsole	05:13
Kr4t05	dimsuz: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (it's a long shot.)	05:15
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dimsuz	Kr4t05: will I need some extra packages for that?	05:16
Kr4t05	Not that I know of.	05:16
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w00t	hi	05:16
dimsuz	Kr4t05: thanks! I'll try it	05:16
w00t	hello\	05:16
grothesk	dimsuz: You may want to delete all entries concerning WACOM in your xorg.conf.	05:17
w00t	can someone plz help me?:P	05:17
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dimsuz	grothesk: ok! I'll try that too! Thanks a lot!	05:17
w00t	can someone explain me how i can use wpa in kubuntu?	05:18
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larson9999	dimsuz: i get that too but haven't noticed it causing any issues.	05:18
w00t	?	05:18
grothesk	larson9999: Except it keeps flooding your x-session-errors	05:19
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w00t	hello	05:20
larson9999	grothesk: yeah	05:20
w00t	...	05:20
w00t	come on...	05:20
w00t	hello?	05:21
h3sp4wn	/usr/share/doc/wpawupplicant/README.modes (thats all you need to know about setting up wpa)	05:21
grothesk	w00t: Maybe you want to tell us about your problem?	05:22
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w00t	yea	05:22
grothesk	Otherwise stopp whining...	05:22
w00t	i want to connect to my wirreles network, but i only see web key , but i have a wpa key..	05:22
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kraut	moin	05:22
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w00t	in the wireless assistant.....	05:23
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arso	umm guys	05:26
arso	to extract a .tar.gz	05:26
arso	tar -zxvf pspvc-install-0.2.1.tar.gz should work right?	05:26
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jacques_	Hey there, anyone that may be able to help me with my scanner setup?	05:28
arso	not me	05:28
jacques_	#sane	05:28
jeppelelle	hello	05:28
arso	help	05:29
jeppelelle	when i am starting adept and want to install JRE. when i open Adept it says that is allredy runing and i cant install. i can only look at the packages, why is that ?	05:29
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arso	where u doing apt-get in konsole at the same time?	05:30
jeppelelle	what ?	05:30
h3sp4wn	You need to install jre from apt-get or aptitude or it will fail (because it can't show the license) (unless it has been recently fixed)	05:31
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jacques_	Any Thunderbird boffins around?	05:32
jeppelelle	but i can find jre in adept	05:32
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arso	how do i isntall a .sh	05:32
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arso	"sh install.sh?	05:33
GBK	any Thunderbird boffins around?	05:33
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Cntryboy	Anyone know why my xmms-wma plugin isn't working for xmms to play .wma songs?	05:34
arso	!sh	05:34
ubotu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands	05:34
arso	oh man	05:34
arso	no ones helpful today	05:35
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grothesk	arso: sh ./install.sh	05:35
arso	k thnx	05:35
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arso	ok i get a lot of lines	05:36
arso	last 3 are	05:36
arso	You can run 'make' now.	05:36
arso	./install.sh: line 30: make: command not found	05:36
arso	ERROR during compilation or installation of X264	05:36
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matlec	hi	05:36
arso	hi	05:36
grothesk	arso: You need 'make'	05:36
Dr_Willis	moo	05:36
arso	grothesk: wat is that?	05:37
Dr_Willis	apt-get install build-essential	05:37
arso	thats "make?	05:37
arso	oh screw it	05:38
arso	bye	05:38
grothesk	make is included in this package.	05:38
Dr_Willis	Hmm	05:38
arso	ls /	05:38
Dr_Willis	welcom to 'short attention span theatre' :)	05:38
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arso	welcome	05:38
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guille	hi?	05:39
Dr_Willis	Moo!	05:39
guille	does anyone knows how to use kbfx?	05:39
Dr_Willis	never heard of it.	05:39
Dr_Willis	kbfx --help :)	05:39
Dr_Willis	!info kbfx	05:39
ubotu	kbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB	05:39
arso	i know how to use counter strike	05:39
arso	oh new kmenu	05:40
arso	cooooooool	05:40
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Dr_Willis	:)	05:40
arso	lol	05:41
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guille	I've already installed it, but I don't know how to use it	05:41
Dr_Willis	Homepage: http://www.kbfx.org/	05:41
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arso	u dont know how to use a menu?	05:41
Dr_Willis	when in doubt.. read the docs. :P like i am doing	05:41
guille	and in the webpage kbfx.org the instructions are not very clear :S	05:41
grothesk	Riddell: Is kdelibs-bin missing in the 3.5.4 release?	05:42
viper550	I'm just wondering, does a KDE version of the Human icon set from Ubuntu exist?	05:42
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Cntryboy	dr_willis: do you know why?	05:42
Dr_Willis	ya add it to your panel.	05:42
Dr_Willis	right click, add to panel.. its in the list	05:42
Dr_Willis	:)	05:42
Dr_Willis	not that it seems tobe working very well for me	05:43
Riddell	grothesk: yes, it has been merged into kdelibs4c2a	05:43
Riddell	viper550: no	05:43
viper550	Awww...guess I'm stuck with the blue icons in my Orange KDE theme	05:44
grothesk	Riddell: Than I do have a problem.	05:44
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Cntryboy	Dr_willis:?? lol	05:44
Dr_Willis	there we go.	05:44
Dr_Willis	selected a differeht theme for it.	05:45
grothesk	Riddell: artsd keeps crashing and I can't use usbsticks in kde 3.5.4	05:45
Riddell	grothesk: artsd I'm fixing now	05:45
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Riddell	grothesk: I've not looked at the media:/ stuff but other distros have reported problems	05:46
grothesk	Great, Riddell!	05:46
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grothesk	Riddell: When inserting a stick I get the message: Unknown error	05:47
silentdawn	anyone know how i can get sound in kbuntu with a sound blaster audiogy 2?	05:48
Dr_Willis	silentdawn, mine works wth no hassles	05:48
Dr_Willis	You using the Digital out for your speakers?	05:48
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silentdawn	nope	05:49
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silentdawn	oh and also any good p2p programs for the os?	05:50
Dr_Willis	fire up a media player like xmms or whateve rya like.. tellit to play somthing.. see if it gives an error.. or does it seem to play, (ie the sound bars jump around)	05:50
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Dr_Willis	!p2p	05:50
ubotu	Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut	05:50
Dr_Willis	oodles of P2p clients out	05:50
silentdawn	yeah but i want the good one...lol	05:50
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josh___	What are you supposed to do with rpm files?	05:52
grothesk	joch: Useless for ubuntu	05:52
josh___	oh crap	05:52
josh___	lol	05:52
josh___	I want to get the draw package for openoffice working	05:53
Dr_Willis	you COULD use alien with rpms	05:53
Dr_Willis	!alien	05:53
ubotu	rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).	05:53
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josh___	im not even going to try alien	05:54
josh___	I'm sure there's a way	05:54
josh___	apt-get just tells me I have the up to date office	05:54
josh___	there's just 4 basic programs like word and spreadsheet	05:55
josh___	no calc or draw	05:55
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josh___	no ideas?	05:56
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grothesk	josh___: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2-draw	05:56
josh___	cool	05:57
josh___	i suppose I should have thought of that	05:57
josh___	how did you fin that out?	05:57
josh___	did you just use apt-cache search?	05:57
grothesk	Easy: apt-cache search openoffice	05:57
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josh___	thqanks	05:58
josh___	ok it says setting up openoffice.org2-draw and just goes back to the prompt	05:59
josh___	is that it?	05:59
grothesk	Try opening it.	06:00
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Tommy2k4	calc = spreadsheet like excel	06:00
Tommy2k4	i think draw = powerpoint	06:00
josh___	how do i open it?	06:00
Tommy2k4	those r the basics	06:01
ahmul	no. impress ~= powerpoint	06:01
Tommy2k4	my k-menu has an office submenu	06:01
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josh___	it's not in the k-menu	06:01
josh___	will i restart x server?	06:01
Tommy2k4	try it	06:02
josh___	ok	06:02
josh___	brb	06:02
ahmul	hello. Is there a repository with kplayer for kubuntu?	06:02
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josh___	no sign of draw	06:03
josh___	after an x server restart	06:03
grothesk	ahmul: Do you mean kmplayer?	06:03
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ahmul	no. I mean mplayer and its gui kplayer:)	06:04
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ahmul	in debian repository http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ there are mplayer and kplayer packages, but I can't install them on Kubuntu.	06:06
josh___	what do I do after apt-get install openoffice.org2-draw?	06:06
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Dr_Willis	look in the menus? :P	06:07
josh___	it just says setting up draw and goes straight back to prompt and then nothing	06:07
josh___	nothing in the menu	06:07
Dr_Willis	then it installed..	06:07
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josh___	i restarted x server	06:07
Dr_Willis	try typing oo<tab>	06:07
josh___	in console?	06:07
Dr_Willis	well it aint going to do much good to type it here on IRC now willit. :P	06:08
josh___	haha	06:08
josh___	lmao	06:08
josh___	whaddya know	06:08
Dr_Willis	---> /usr/bin/oodraw	06:08
josh___	that installed really fast	06:08
Dr_Willis	im wondering how ya managed to not have OO installed anyway. :P it seems tobe a 'You WILL install this' sort of package.	06:09
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StrudelNinja	so should I have just gotten ubuntu instead if I'm going to use firefox and gaim instead of all the kde stuff	06:11
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Hawkwind	StrudelNinja: You can use all of that on either, doesn't matter	06:12
StrudelNinja	I know, I got them installed	06:13
Dr_Willis	I normally install ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop	06:13
StrudelNinja	but it seems sort of excessive	06:13
Dr_Willis	as the first thing i do. :P	06:13
Hawkwind	StrudelNinja: What's excessive about it ? You have Gnome installed on Ubuntu to run firefox, gaim and all that. No different	06:13
StrudelNinja	no idea	06:14
StrudelNinja	I'm just ocd	06:14
Dr_Willis	I got oooodles of Hd space. :P	06:14
h3sp4wn	I think the firefox from mozilla.org feels more responsive	06:14
w00t	damn	06:15
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w00t	hi	06:16
w00t	:P	06:16
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w00t	i wanne play real games, like counterstrike or warrock on kubuntu is that possible	06:17
w00t	?	06:17
Dr_Willis	w00t, check into Wine and Cedega	06:17
w00t	?	06:18
w00t	Wine and Cedega?	06:18
w00t	is that a game?	06:18
w00t	:P	06:18
Dr_Willis	Now its time to do some googling eh? :P	06:18
Dr_Willis	!cedega	06:18
ubotu	cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega	06:18
Dr_Willis	!wine	06:18
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	06:18
w00t	:P	06:18
matlec	Does anyone know if there is a snapshot of the kubuntu modifications to kde? (cvs/svn repo doesn't exist, right?)	06:18
Dr_Willis	and dont expect miracles. :P	06:19
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Tokeiito	good evening	06:20
Dr_Willis	its noon here. :)	06:20
Tokeiito	:)	06:20
Dr_Willis	hmm..amarok just poped up 'it cant play mp3 files' and a button to 'install mp3 support' :)	06:21
Dr_Willis	not that the button seemed to work...	06:21
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Dr_Willis	but its the thought that counts.	06:22
Dr_Willis	!amarok	06:22
ubotu	amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php	06:22
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trevor_	morning	06:22
Dr_Willis	!mp3	06:22
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	06:22
StrudelNinja	how do I install from TARs? I'm a linux noob	06:23
trevor_	does anyone know a good way to set up a dual boot of windows xp and Ubuntu from seperate hard drives?	06:23
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Tokeiito	trevor_: first install winXP, then linux. linux will install boot menu (like GRUB) and will autodetect all systems in all HDD	06:24
Dr_Willis	My Motherboard lets me pick what HD to boot. :P so i can put grub on the linux hd. and windows dont even know its there.. :)	06:25
Dr_Willis	but grub on the mbr of hda works very well.	06:25
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trevor_	so i should be setting my linux drive as my primary IDE drive?	06:27
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Tokeiito	trevor_: no	06:27
Tokeiito	its not important	06:27
Tokeiito	in my PC linux is in slave HDD	06:27
Tokeiito	and there is no prblms	06:28
trevor_	see, its a pre-existing windows install	06:28
trevor_	and i just installed ubuntu on a clean HD	06:28
StrudelNinja	when I try tar -x imwheel-1.0.0pre12.tar.gz I get "tar: imwheel-1.0.0pre12.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory" but then again I'm doing this by intuition, no knowledge backing it up ><	06:28
Tokeiito	xm	06:28
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Tokeiito	StrudelNinja: read this: Cannot open: No such file or directory	06:29
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StrudelNinja	so if it'	06:31
StrudelNinja	bleh	06:31
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StrudelNinja	so if it's on my desktop would it be /home/josh/desktop/imwheel-1.0.0pre12.tar.gz? because that doesn't work either	06:31
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Tokeiito	tar -x /home/josh/desktop/imwheel-1.0.0pre12.tar.gz	06:32
Tokeiito	or	06:32
Tokeiito	cd /home/josh/desktop	06:32
Tokeiito	and then tar -x imwheel-1.0.0pre12.tar.gz	06:32
Tokeiito	xm	06:32
Tokeiito	bu its gziped	06:32
yamal	or better yet just install the kubuntu deb of imwheel	06:33
StrudelNinja	bash: cd: /home/josh/desktop/: No such file or directory <--- that doesn't sound right	06:33
Tokeiito	;)	06:33
StrudelNinja	ok how do I do that	06:33
Tokeiito	damn	06:33
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Tokeiito	Desktop	06:33
StrudelNinja	I've had kubuntu for all of uh, half a day	06:33
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Tokeiito	StrudelNinja: Desktop not desktop	06:34
StrudelNinja	really	06:34
StrudelNinja	there we go ><	06:34
Dr_Willis	Linux IS case SenSetivE	06:35
Dr_Willis	:P	06:35
yamal	StrudelNinja: take a look at the topic... the FAQ part, then read about installing software	06:35
yamal	required reading for new users	06:36
yamal	:)	06:36
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StrudelNinja	this is all so confusing :(	06:38
StrudelNinja	lol	06:38
arkroks	buenas tardes	06:38
Dr_Willis	it is?	06:38
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Dr_Willis	never noticed.	06:38
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	How can I uninstall a .deb?	06:45
Tokeiito	apt-get remove	06:45
Tokeiito	apt-get remove packagename	06:45
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I didn't get the package through apt-get	06:45
\|\|Trayer\|\|	should this matter?	06:45
Tokeiito	how u get it?	06:45
\|\|Trayer\|\|	I downloaded a rpm and alien'd it to become a .deb	06:46
Tokeiito	wtv	06:46
Tokeiito	apt-get remove	06:46
Tokeiito	or open packages manager	06:47
\|\|Trayer\|\|	launching adept	06:47
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	Alright found it thanks	06:48
\|\|Trayer\|\|	it's listed under section "alien"	06:48
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Dr_Willis	logical eh?	06:49
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\|\|Trayer\|\|	: P	06:51
Tokeiito	:)	06:51
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cold	algum brasileiro aqui?	06:52
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yml	When I launch "sudo wlassistant" I get an information message that I might not have the appropiate right	06:56
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yml	I had the same pb with the live cd, now I have an "on disk" installation	06:57
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yml	with the live cd I did workaround this using the bare iwconfig command line.	06:58
silentdawn	i typed "su" into the terminal and for some reason it is not accepting my password	06:59
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juan	An easy question: rar doesn't accept wildcards (*.rar) Is there any way to pass all the files in a directory to it to unrar them using pipes ?	06:59
yml	BTW since I installed the live cd sudo ask a password	06:59
yml	which password should I give?	06:59
Jolly_Jumper	hi	06:59
Jolly_Jumper	does somebody know an alternative for Turbolister under Kubuntu?	07:00
matlec	is there any kubuntu developer in this channel?	07:00
yml	juan> I assume you could do something like this ls *.rar \| unrar	07:00
Dr_Willis	Hmmm	07:01
Dr_Willis	is this a Huge Multipart rar archive?	07:01
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yml	what is the root password when installing from the live CD?	07:04
taotao^offline	yml: password is empty	07:04
yml	I have not enter any during the installation procedure?	07:04
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Dr_Willis	there is none	07:05
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Dr_Willis	sudo -s to get a root shell	07:05
Dr_Willis	and ya can then set it onthe live cd if you want.	07:05
yml	taotao^offline> you mean su -root	07:05
yml	pasword: <enter>	07:05
yml	?	07:05
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ButteBlues	righto	07:08
kubuntutaotao	yml: i don't know your meaning	07:09
ButteBlues	I did a pretty stupid thing earlier	07:09
ButteBlues	I was modifying my xorg.conf to rectify that random wacom error people were getting	07:09
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ButteBlues	save it fucked over my xorg.conf so it couldn't start X	07:09
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ButteBlues	obv, I didn;'t worry at the time, and I never made a backup of xorg.conf for that	07:09
ButteBlues	so, I ended up deleting the bad xorg.conf and renaming a backup made from when I installed kubuntu	07:10
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ButteBlues	now, my resolution is stuck at 1400x1024 or so, and all my fonts are fucked	07:10
yml	kubuntutaotao>I was asking whether the password was none or if there was not a root account	07:10
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kubuntutaotao	yml: if you don't type password when installing,and you may type <enter>	07:11
yml	ok I see	07:12
Dr_Willis	I use that KDE X config utility/setting/control panel thing. :P and it worked.. to change my res.. which amazed me	07:12
Flosoft	hey	07:12
Flosoft	I installed SWAT .... but how do I use it?	07:12
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Flosoft	port 901 is not responding	07:12
Dr_Willis	Flosoft, ive noticed that also.	07:13
yml	my pb is that I have now added a password for root; This password work ok when using su - root but does not work for "Sytem settings"	07:13
Flosoft	command swat works	07:13
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Dr_Willis	Flosoft, oh? never noticed that.	07:13
Flosoft	it gives me no error until I press CTRL+C	07:13
Dr_Willis	normally swat is started by inetd or xinetd as needed. I think	07:13
Flosoft	hmm	07:13
Dr_Willis	but im not sure if those are isntalled by default	07:13
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: I tried to look for some configs	07:14
Flosoft	but haven't found them	07:14
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Dr_Willis	i just installed xinetd and found a swat config for it.. but no go.	07:16
Flosoft	hmm	07:17
ButteBlues	what's the command for autoconfig xorg.conf again?	07:17
kubuntutaotao	yml: you should use a account of nonroot,for a example,type "sudo apt-get update".and system will prompt you to input password of root.	07:17
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carthik	Hi, Does Amarok support sharing via zeroconf/avahi/bonjour ?	07:19
yml	kubuntutaotao>yes I understand this and it is working fine with the command line but the pb is that in the "System Configuration"/ Network ... / administrator mode the system tell me that my new password is incorrect	07:19
ButteBlues	what's the command for autoconfig xorg.conf again?	07:20
Riddell	carthik: no	07:21
carthik	Riddell, thank you very much! :)	07:21
Riddell	carthik: the next version has some support for daap though	07:21
Riddell	but I think that's listening only	07:21
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carthik	Riddell, great - having it would be real nice - something I have grown used to with rhythmbox/banshee :)	07:22
kubuntutaotao	yml: did you setup your password for root when installing?	07:22
yml	nope I did sudo	07:22
yml	and then chpasswd	07:22
grothesk	Riddell: Did you get notice about konqueror missing the adressline in kde 3.5.4?	07:23
yml	the password is working fine in the console but not in the Syetem Settings	07:23
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Dr_Willis	Heh - got swat working.. I think. :P	07:25
kubuntutaotao	yml: strange,i guess that is a bug of system.:)	07:25
Flosoft	I got it working:	07:25
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Flosoft	http://10.0.0.1:901/	07:26
Flosoft	http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=418615&postcount=5	07:26
Flosoft	sorry :p	07:26
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yml	what should I do I have already restarted the computer?	07:26
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MR1	is there some obvious reason smb.conf from one computer is not going to work on another	07:27
Dr_Willis	Hmm...	07:28
kubuntutaotao	yml: can that resolve the problem?i am watching	07:28
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Dr_Willis	Flosoft, bah! i did it by reading the samba docs > :P	07:28
Flosoft	:p	07:28
yml	kubuntutaotao>Which pb are you refereing to?	07:28
Dr_Willis	http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html	07:28
Dr_Willis	Flosoft, so you installed the inetd stuff?	07:29
Flosoft	yes	07:29
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Flosoft	it works :)	07:29
kubuntutaotao	yml: sorry,i don't know the meaning of pb	07:29
Dr_Willis	Flosoft, im using the better xinetd. :P	07:29
yml	kubuntutaotao>pardon me pb = problem	07:29
Flosoft	ow :p	07:29
Flosoft	well I don't really care :p	07:30
Flosoft	it is my PC @ home :)	07:30
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Dr_Willis	:P	07:30
Dr_Willis	xinetd is one of those things thats worth learning about some day	07:30
unix_infidel	does anyone know if ebay hosts the images for your listing of your have to find hosting for those images yourself?	07:30
StrudelNinja	Ok so I'm trying to access a HD on my winbox, I have it shared and networked on that end but I can't access it through samba on this end	07:31
unix_infidel	or do you pay to get images hosted through ebay?	07:31
kubuntutaotao	yml: i am not refereing anything	07:31
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yml	ok	07:31
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yml	so you advise me to reboot again?	07:31
scabootssca	ok i've been trying to make a boot floppy from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy but cant get the last step to work it keeps having errors	07:32
StrudelNinja	do I need to do something on this end to reach my networked winbox	07:32
scabootssca	the setup (fd0) line	07:32
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kubuntutaotao	yml: i could not look up it,but you may try it out.	07:33
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scabootssca	says http://www.pastebin.us/2257	07:34
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jihi	hi	07:35
jihi	any krusader user here?	07:35
yml	kubuntutaotao>how can I start an application with a ui from the console with the root account I get the following error: cannot connect to x server	07:35
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jihi	yml: u cant	07:36
DrBair	anyone know if the version of grub that comes with ubuntu support booting from reiser4 ?	07:36
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yml	I run xhost + with m y current account, if I remember well I should type something like export display ... but I do not remember exactly the syntaxe	07:36
yml	jihi>Why I cannot?	07:37
Dr_Willis	you want to start rooty apps with sudo, or gksu, or whats the kde equilivent	07:37
h3sp4wn	yml: Just use kdesu appname	07:37
Dr_Willis	or use 'sux' - if you are old-skool	07:37
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jihi	yml: when x is running then it works but i dont know too, sry :(	07:38
h3sp4wn	yml: export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 would probably what you asked for before though	07:38
h3sp4wn	18:38 < jihi> yml: when x is running then it works but i dont know too, sry :(	07:38
h3sp4wn	18:38 < h3sp4wn> yml: export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 would probably what you asked for before though	07:38
h3sp4wn	18:37 < Dr_Willis> or use 'sux' - if you are old-skool	07:38
h3sp4wn	18:38 < jihi> yml: when x is running then it works but i dont know too, sry :(	07:38
h3sp4wn	sorry (didn't mean to do that)	07:38
Dr_Willis	:)	07:39
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yml	h3sp4wn>I keep getting cannot connect to x server	07:39
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h3sp4wn	yml: Doing what ?	07:40
yml	kdesu systemsettings	07:41
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h3sp4wn	do kdesu kcontrol	07:41
yml	h3sp4wn>My initial pb is that my root password is working in the console but not with a UI	07:41
h3sp4wn	yml: If you enable root expect problems with gui apps	07:42
yamal	StrudelNinja: open konqueror file manager, and navigate to smb://HOST/ ...with HOST replaced with the winbox one	07:42
h3sp4wn	yml: try it with the user password and it should work (unless you removed sudo)	07:42
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yml	h3sp4wn>This is what I am doing I am using the same password the one of root	07:43
steveire	What	07:44
yml	I haven't removed sudo	07:44
h3sp4wn	yml: and sudo -i works from the console ?	07:44
yml	Yes exactly	07:44
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yml	oups I have closed and reopened the konsole and I find out that the password I used was not working any more	07:48
unix_infidel	where does apache2 specify which file will up first?	07:48
steveire	unix_infidel: What do you mean?	07:50
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kubuntutaotao	yml: i pity you very much.:(	07:50
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steveire	I think it's index.php > index.html > index.cgi	07:50
steveire	not certain though	07:50
steveire	and i don't know where that's specifed	07:50
yml	kubuntutaotao>thank you ;-)	07:50
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kubuntutaotao	yml: oh no.i feel sorry that i can not help you any more	07:51
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_jordi	hola, alguien me puede prestar una ayudita?	07:53
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gemidjy	what do I install to get GwenView's effects available?	07:53
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_jordi	how do i do to connect myself to the "#kubuntu-es"channel?	07:54
Dr_Willis	/join #channelname	07:54
Dr_Willis	if ya dident put it in quotes ya could proberly click on #kubuntu-es and join it	07:55
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_jordi	thank's a lot!	07:56
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kubuntutaotao	the koffice is upgraded just now and i can not run it.during upgrading,show message:""	07:57
kubuntutaotao	/var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-libs_1%3a1.5.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb	07:57
kubuntutaotao	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	07:57
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juan	wow	08:03
juan	All this people are ubuntu's users?	08:03
v0taguz	=D	08:04
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steveire	it's a popular channel/distro	08:04
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yml	Ok I solve my second password problem, but the initial one is still there ( I am tring to configure my wifi)	08:04
juan	yes, for me is the best distro	08:04
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StrudelNinja	ok so I have my server configured on my winbox (I think) but I still can't get samba to connect	08:06
StrudelNinja	what do I need to do on this end, possibly?	08:06
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Ace2007	Does anyone here firmilear with dvd::rip?	08:07
larson9999	i think it could well be the best distro	08:07
Dr_Willis	Ace2007, i used it ages ago. :( about all i can say	08:07
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yml	I tried to use wlassistant but without success. I only manage to get the wifi working using "ifup eth1"	08:08
Ace2007	Dr_Willis: oh thats great, would you by any chance know how to continue from crash, make it check the vob directory to find the files already ripped?	08:08
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Ace2007	Dr_Willis: while i was transcoding it crashed so i need it to look in the vob dir so i can ask it to transcode again	08:09
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Dr_Willis	no clue there. :()	08:10
juan	somebody knows how to configure well ubuntu? I have a problem with xorg?	08:10
Dr_Willis	ijust used it to rip a few dvd's while i slept. ;	08:11
Dr_Willis	juan, whats the issue?	08:11
Ace2007	Dr_Willis: Thats what i do, it takes like 8 hours	08:11
Dr_Willis	8 hrs? gesh	08:12
Dr_Willis	i cant recall it ever taking more then an hr or so.	08:12
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juan	hello Dr_Willis, my problem is related with the graphical server	08:12
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Dr_Willis	juan, ok.. for background what video card.	08:13
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juan	when the server is inicialized the screen trembles	08:14
juan	I have an Intel chipset 845	08:14
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juan	I think that I have configured well xorg, but the problem continues	08:15
Dr_Willis	this on a lcd or crt display?	08:16
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juan	no, is the monitor E74 of IBM	08:16
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Dr_Willis	:) amazing - an answer - that dosent really answer the question... I take it that a E74 is some IBM CRT monitor?	08:18
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vulNer	hii	08:19
Dr_Willis	You mean it has a slight jitter? like its running at a 60hz refresh rate instead of 85?	08:19
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vulNer	can i ask question plzz??	08:19
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larson9999	nope. can't ask any questions here	08:19
juan	sorry, I am not an english speaker and I confuse myself	08:19
juan	my monitor is a CRT monitor	08:20
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Cerda	oops	08:20
Cerda	sorry keys not configured yet	08:20
vulNer	hey i want someone to help me	08:20
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jeppelelle	is someone having steam here ???	08:21
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jeppelelle	because i caNT RUN STEAM	08:22
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steveire	vulNer: OO OOH PICK ME PICK ME!!!!!	08:25
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Dr_Willis	juan, you may want to check in #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es they are native speakers of spanish.	08:28
Dr_Willis	assuming you speak spanish.	08:29
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juan	Dr_Willis, yes the refesh rate is 85 hz	08:29
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Dr_Willis	Hmm. It jitters all the time? or just when X starts?	08:30
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juan	yes, when kdm starts, it means, when X starts	08:31
cam	hello fellow kubuntu	08:31
bastiq	can someone help me? my ftp program won't connect. i've tried both ftp and kftp	08:32
cam	I want to install win2000 after kubuntu is this somewhat easy?	08:32
bastiq	cam, yup i think so	08:33
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bastiq	you install it and then you reinstall grub	08:33
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cam	bastiq, make a partition - install win - then reinstall grub from live cd ?	08:33
bastiq	yes	08:33
cam	how do i reinstall grub ?	08:34
bastiq	you can find guides on the ubuntu homepage	08:34
Dr_Willis	best to install windows first, then linux	08:34
bastiq	hold on, i'll se if i can find one	08:34
Dr_Willis	even Bester - to have 2 hard drives :P one for each os	08:34
Dr_Willis	'bester' ?	08:34
Dr_Willis	:P	08:34
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cam	dr_willis, i have heard this but I would like to install windows after kubuntu	08:35
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Dr_Willis	cam, time to learn the fundamentals of GRUB then.	08:35
cam	dr_willis, oh lord nooo	08:35
bastiq	naah	08:35
Hawkwind	Heh	08:35
bastiq	!grub	08:35
bastiq	bah, how does the bot work?	08:36
Hawkwind	You're better off installing Windows first. Saves you time and migraines	08:36
Hawkwind	!grub	08:36
Hawkwind	No bot	08:36
Dr_Willis	Grub is one of those things thats well worth learning about.	08:36
farous	cam: you will need to reinstall grub after installing window	08:36
bastiq	it's easy, even i did it :P	08:36
Dr_Willis	the default grub setup in ubuntu is rather annoying in some ways. :P	08:36
larson9999	cam: same hd or different?	08:36
Dr_Willis	lots of neat tweaks ya can do with it.	08:36
cam	larson9999, same hd	08:36
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bastiq	Dr_Willis: like what?	08:37
cam	howto reinstall grub from live cd then ?	08:37
larson9999	cam, i'd install windows first	08:37
cam	dr_willis, as with so many things in life...	08:37
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farous	cam: it is better done from install cd not the live one	08:38
farous	cam: why you want to install window first	08:38
cam	farous, i have kubuntu installed but I want windows for my RME HDSP 9632 sound card	08:39
bastiq	cam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%29%7C%28reinstall%29	08:39
cam	bastiq, nice link thanks	08:39
Dr_Willis	Installing windows first - fix's 2 problems.. 1 - you wont lose your grub.. and 2 - wheninstalling Linux. it will see the windows partition and add an entry for XP to lthe menus	08:40
Dr_Willis	by doing it the reverse way - you have 2 problems to fix.	08:40
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cam	dr_willis, yes kubuntu after windows is a breeze	08:41
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larson9999	Dr_Willis: in my experience the person will likely have even more problems than those if installing windows after linux on the same drive.	08:41
cam	does anyone have a RME HDSP 9632 sound card ?	08:41
h3sp4wn	cam: Is the rme not supported by linux (I know some rme stuff is)	08:42
larson9999	s/the person/the new person/	08:42
steveire	I don't even know how you'd install grub if you installed windows second. Would you need to use a live cd?	08:42
cam	well i'm tempted to have a go the worst part is installing windows sigh	08:42
Dr_Willis	yea - a live cd. and chroot over to the instelled system - is how ive done it in the past	08:42
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Flosoft	hey	08:43
Flosoft	how do I start X?	08:43
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h3sp4wn	chroot into the installed system from a live cd and then grub-install hd0	08:43
farous	larson9999: what type of problems i installed linux after window (not by choice) i even boot linux from window (not by choice also). needed a dirty tweek though	08:43
Dr_Willis	that posted url - is rather... lacking in details.. :P	08:43
grothesk	Flosoft: startx	08:43
cam	chroot then grub-install hd0 - i'll give this a try :-)	08:43
steveire	Flosoft: The first answer is startx. The first question is why do you have to?	08:43
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farous	cam: on the boot prompt just type rescue from an installation cd	08:44
Flosoft	steveire: I killed it	08:44
farous	cam: i think it is an option now to choose rescue	08:44
Flosoft	another question: My Consoles are all misformed	08:44
steveire	Yeah, that'll do it.	08:44
h3sp4wn	Flosoft: Or you can just use xinit and have .xinitrc containing exec /usr/bin/startkde	08:44
cam	farous, i like this rescue solution - i'll try that	08:44
Flosoft	I can't see some last lines etc.	08:44
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larson9999	farous: for one is seems that fosters more bsods and uninstallable systems for the newbie. seems to worse for the new to linux and even more so for the not so techie at all	08:45
farous	cam: i heard it had problems with the livecd that is why i recommend the install cd	08:45
cam	many thanks excellent people	08:45
Dr_Willis	Flosoft, you on a lcd or crt monitor?	08:45
cam	farous, i have the install cd downloaded so i'll use that	08:45
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Flosoft	LCD	08:46
Flosoft	it worked before	08:46
farous	cam: i think the rescue option is one of the standard options on the graphical installer now so do not worry and good luck	08:46
Dr_Willis	cant adjust the picture position eh?	08:46
cam	farous, excellent i'm going to try it	08:46
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: no	08:47
Dr_Willis	could try booting with the nofb option - to disable the framebuffer.. but it it worked befor.. odd..	08:47
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farous	larson9999: ok thanx i understand now what you ment :)	08:47
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: I am also not in a normal res :S	08:47
Dr_Willis	it worked like on an earlier install? or a day or 2 ago?	08:47
cam	good bye everyone many thanks	08:47
Dr_Willis	normal res - sounds like the framebuffer is confused.	08:47
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: I want atleast 1024x768x32	08:47
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: Earlier install	08:47
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Flosoft	Dr_Willis: I tried to use nvidia-glx but that caused alot of problems :S	08:48
Dr_Willis	hmm	08:48
scabootssca	is there a way i can sort sound files according to their bitrate?	08:48
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: but that also worked on the earlier version	08:48
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: PM maybe?	08:48
Dr_Willis	you are refering to the CONSOLE right? the text based console on alt-ctrl-F1	08:48
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: yes	08:49
h3sp4wn	Flosoft: Do you have restricted enabled for dapper-security (should be main restricted after that line)	08:49
Flosoft	h3sp4wn: yes	08:49
Flosoft	I got all required packages	08:49
Dr_Willis	Flosoft, theres several options you can give grub as to what res/depth to use as default for that. or theres the fbset command.	08:49
Dr_Willis	I always disable the framebuffer stuff for the console. it slows things down.	08:49
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: What is the FB?	08:49
h3sp4wn	Flosoft: The only reason I can think for it not working is that (i.e you got 2.6.15-26 from dapper security but not the matching restricted modules)	08:50
Flosoft	h3sp4wn: I got the matching ones	08:50
Dr_Willis	Flosoft, the framebuffer is a 'feature' the console can use that gives it more colors/depth/resolutions	08:51
h3sp4wn	Flosoft: aptitude search restricted-modules~i - shows both right	08:51
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Dr_Willis	its a neat idea - that often dont work right.	08:51
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: hmm	08:52
Dr_Willis	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html	08:52
Flosoft	h3sp4wn: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6gbKmt17.html	08:52
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dhq	hey	08:52
dhq	i am having problem with kde	08:53
steveire	like many dhq	08:53
dhq	i cant see my mouse	08:53
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: Where can I configure the resolution (grub?)	08:54
dhq	my screen i shifted 5 cm below monitor and cant see status bar steveire	08:54
Dr_Willis	yep. theres some option you can use to set the default res.	08:54
Dr_Willis	or use the fbset command	08:54
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steveire	sounds like a monitor problem to me	08:54
Flosoft	steveire: it worked for the last 3 years on my kubuntu ;)	08:54
Flosoft	where is the option Dr_Willis	08:55
Flosoft	fbset doesn't seem to work	08:55
Dr_Willis	got fbset installed?	08:55
larson9999	is java on jre1.5.0_06 or jre1.5.0_07? i went to java.com and the download said jre1.5.0_06 but i have jre1.5.0_07 installed	08:55
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Flosoft	Dr_Willis: no :S	08:56
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Dr_Willis	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html has a lot of info.. but its a little out of date. :(	08:56
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: Where is the option for Grub?	08:57
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Dr_Willis	its a kernel= option you tack on to the end.	08:57
Flosoft	ow	08:57
Dr_Willis	kernel=(hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x31A splash=silent	08:58
Dr_Willis	for example.	08:58
Flosoft	ok	08:58
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Dr_Willis	got that from ..... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash#High_resolution_framebuffer_.26_bootsplash.21	08:58
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Dr_Willis	:)	08:58
Ademan	is there a compiz development channel?	08:58
Flosoft	root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash	08:58
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Flosoft	those are my kernel options	08:59
Dr_Willis	your grub fu is tiotally wrong.	08:59
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: could you maybe repaste the code ? I lost my window :p	08:59
Dr_Willis	thats not even the right line.	08:59
Dr_Willis	http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash#High_resolution_framebuffer_.26_bootsplash.21	08:59
Flosoft	Dr_Willis: why?	08:59
Dr_Willis	kernel=(hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x31A splash=silent	08:59
Dr_Willis	You are adding the options to the root= line.. thats NOT where they go	08:59
Dr_Willis	:P	08:59
Dr_Willis	or did ya just paste a partital line?	09:00
Dr_Willis	:P	09:00
Flosoft	partial line ... well webmin ... where can I find the file?	09:00
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Dr_Willis	- /boot/grub/menu.lst	09:00
Flosoft	ok	09:01
Flosoft	http://rafb.net/paste/results/x4IMwa95.html	09:01
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Flosoft	ok ... so what do I add for 1024x768x32?	09:02
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Dr_Willis	http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash#High_resolution_framebuffer_.26_bootsplash.21	09:02
Dr_Willis	read there - they got a chart of all the res's	09:03
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Dr_Willis	under --> Here is a chart of kernel mode numbers for the 'vga=' boot parameter.	09:03
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Flosoft	Dr_Willis: 0x31B	09:04
Dr_Willis	Now bookmark that site! :P	09:04
Dr_Willis	lol	09:04
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Dr_Willis	gentoo wikis are soo handy at times.	09:04
Flosoft	I can simply add that to the end of kernel?	09:05
Flosoft	kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=0x31B	09:05
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Flosoft	next thing ... is why doesn't nvidia-glx work anymore?	09:07
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Flosoft	Dr_Willis: I booted ... and it says not a valid video mode?	09:09
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Dr_Willis	if you look at the menu.lst you will see theres a proper place to put the kernel options. so that update-grub will see them	09:09
nix__	try vga=ask for a list of valid modes	09:09
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Flosoft	yeah ... I can see the list	09:10
Dr_Willis	theres an example of vga=791 given in the menu.lst	09:10
Dr_Willis	# defoptions=quiet nosplash vga=791	09:10
Flosoft	0318 works	09:11
Flosoft	meaning: 1024x768 works	09:11
Flosoft	1280x1024 doesn't :S	09:11
Dr_Willis	1280x1024 for the console is asking for a headach. :P	09:12
Flosoft	hehe ok	09:12
Dr_Willis	the whole fb console - is a neat idea.. that just is lacking in ways. :(	09:13
Dr_Willis	bbl	09:13
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Flosoft	ok ... does anyone how to enable transparency?	09:13
larson9999	and glasses	09:13
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Flosoft	I added to xorg.conf: Section "Extensions"	09:14
Flosoft	Composite Enable	09:14
Flosoft	EndSection	09:14
Flosoft	what is wrong?	09:14
abattoir	Flosoft:	09:14
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abattoir	Flosoft: did you enable it in the KDE settings?	09:14
Flosoft	abattoir: yes	09:14
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Flosoft	X doesn't want to start with the xorg.conf :S	09:15
abattoir	isnt it something like "Option" "Composite" "Enable"	09:15
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abattoir	or were you lazy to not include the quotes? :P	09:15
Flosoft	abattoir: ow ... option too?	09:15
Flosoft	and all in " "?	09:16
abattoir	Flosoft: wait a sec.. i'll confirm	09:16
abattoir	Flosoft: what is the X error that you get?	09:16
Flosoft	none	09:16
Flosoft	it doesn't start	09:16
Flosoft	but that looks better	09:16
Flosoft	the code highlighting is better :)	09:16
abattoir	Section "Extensions"	09:17
abattoir	Option "Composite" "Enable"	09:17
abattoir	EndSection	09:17
abattoir	is what i have	09:17
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Flosoft	ok	09:17
Flosoft	rebooting	09:17
Flosoft	:)	09:17
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Flosoft	atleast my console works now :)	09:17
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abattoir	Flosoft: you mean the pseudo-transparency?	09:18
Flosoft	eh ?	09:18
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Flosoft	I just found the option in System Settings > Windows	09:18
abattoir	aah, nothing, you must have meant something else	09:18
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Flosoft	yay it works :D	09:20
Flosoft	is this CPU based or GPU?	09:20
Tm_T	CPU if it's pseudo, I think	09:20
abattoir	hmm, a combination of both i'd say :P	09:20
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Flosoft	hmm ok	09:20
abattoir	Tm_T: composite...	09:20
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Flosoft	cpu :)	09:21
Tm_T	ah, then it's GPU	09:21
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Flosoft	Xorg uses alot of CPU if he is doing it :)	09:21
Tm_T	well, composite is GPU-related	09:21
Tm_T	abattoir: and hi :)	09:22
Flosoft	how do I use composite?	09:22
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abattoir	Tm_T: hi, :), i thought i already said hi, but doesnt matter does it? :P	09:22
Tm_T	abattoir: nope	09:22
Tm_T	abattoir: hi	09:22
abattoir	Tm_T: hmmm, must have been yesterday then ;)	09:22
Tm_T	indeed ;)	09:23
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abattoir	Flosoft: you are using it... didnt you just enable it in xorg.conf now?	09:23
Flosoft	abattoir: yes	09:23
Tm_T	well, it need to be enabled in xorg.conf too	09:23
Flosoft	but Tm_T said that composite is GPU ... but here it seems to be purely CPU?	09:23
Tm_T	Flosoft: it propably uses both, but it depends on GPU settings	09:24
abattoir	Flosoft: if you have a gpu, technically, you are using it to draw the windows, even if it is through the CPU...	09:24
abattoir	aargh, i'm confusing myself :S	09:24
Flosoft	abattoir: ok	09:24
Flosoft	ok ... so now nvidia-glx	09:24
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Flosoft	normally I have everything installed :S	09:25
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Flosoft	hmm	09:26
Flosoft	nvidia doesn't seem to work :S	09:26
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Flosoft	when I set nvidia instead of nv it simply doesn't run X	09:28
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Flosoft	http://rafb.net/paste/results/TNstJV49.html	09:30
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Flosoft	any idea?	09:31
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Flosoft	Dr_Willis: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TNstJV49.html	09:33
Dr_Willis	and that is?	09:35
Flosoft	when I try to run xorg with nvidia	09:35
Flosoft	instead of nv	09:35
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Dr_Willis	!sound	09:37
abattoir	ubotu is dead?	09:37
Dr_Willis	looks like it	09:38
abattoir	yup, its not here	09:38
steveire	nah. He'll be back.	09:38
steveire	He always comes back	09:38
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apeman2020	hello all	09:41
apeman2020	I need some help with my SIS graphics card	09:41
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abattoir	apeman2020: yes...	09:42
abattoir	apeman2020: what exactly do you need?	09:42
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Redsnak3	in the another channel	09:44
Redsnak3	the user is sleeping	09:44
Redsnak3	lol	09:44
abattoir	Redsnak3: huh?	09:45
Redsnak3	i need	09:45
yml_	Guys, I progressing I have now access to internet but for some reason it it very slow. I read on the internet that it might be because of IP V6	09:45
Hawkwind	Users sleep all the time	09:45
Redsnak3	install in my abuntu wine	09:45
Redsnak3	but i dont speak much english	09:45
abattoir	!wine	09:45
Redsnak3	lol	09:45
Hawkwind	!ipv6	09:45
Hawkwind	Bahhh, no bot	09:45
Redsnak3	!wine	09:45
abattoir	aah, ubotu isnt here	09:46
Redsnak3	LOL	09:46
abattoir	Redsnak3: which language?	09:46
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Redsnak3	spanish	09:46
Hawkwind	yml_: To disable ipv6 in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives please see item #8 on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 or this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 or you can also change alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to alias net-pf-10 off as root in this file: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases	09:46
Hawkwind	Redsnak3: #ubuntu-es	09:46
abattoir	so you mean people at #kubuntu-es are sleeping? :P	09:46
Hawkwind	Redsnak3: Or even #Kubuntu-ES	09:46
Redsnak3	ubuntu	09:46
Redsnak3	is sleeping	09:46
Redsnak3	lol	09:46
yml_	It was advise to value the variable called "KDE_NO_IPV6=True"	09:46
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Redsnak3	thanks :)	09:47
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Hawkwind	yml_: Read those links. They work perfectly	09:47
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yml_	Hawkwind>thank you I am going there	09:47
abattoir	!anything, but i still rock !!!	09:47
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abattoir	!ubotu	09:48
abattoir	:'(	09:48
ubotu	I know nothing about anything, but i still rock !!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	09:48
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage	09:49
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triceratops	Does anyone know why there is a dependency from kde-i18n-nds (3.5.4) to language-pack-kde-nds? AFAIR it wasn't for 3kde-i18n-nds .5.3	09:49
triceratops	s/3kde-i18n-nds .5.3/kde-i18n-nds 3.5.3/	09:50
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abattoir	triceratops: it could be a metapackage... introduced newly... but i'm just speculating.	09:50
Dr_Willis	ZZZzzz...	09:50
Dr_Willis	!sound	09:51
ubotu	If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems	09:51
triceratops	abattoir: The pitty is that due to this dependency I can't use nds Language in edgy...	09:51
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abattoir	triceratops: aah, in edgy	09:52
triceratops	abattoir: kde-nds 3.5.3 is edgy too :)	09:54
arso	KUBUNTU VS SUSE!? anyone :P	09:54
abattoir	triceratops: yes of course... 'was' rather :P	09:54
steveire	arso: Kubuntu of course, of course it entirely depends on what you want to do	09:56
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triceratops	abattoir: Shure was not is, which by the way is nds also not only english :-))	09:56
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arso	steveire: "Wat you want to do" wats kubuntu for? and suse for?	09:57
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arso	i dont wanna know which is better, i wanna know the main differences besides rpm/deb	09:57
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steveire	Well, if you want five cds to install what you want, then go for sse	09:58
abattoir	triceratops: could you give me the exact package name?	09:58
steveire	suse	09:58
steveire	If you've got a decent connection on the installation computer, use kubuntu	09:58
abattoir	triceratops: also sure about 'nds'? three letters?	09:59
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triceratops	abattoir: kde-i18n-nds_4:3.5.4-0ubunttu1 , yes it's nds for lowersaxon a language spoken at the shoerelines of the dutch sea fom Netherland over germany up to denmark	10:01
abattoir	triceratops: aah, ok :)	10:02
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Ace2007	I'd go with kubuntu, the ubuntu forums are great and there are lots of how tos and the repos are the best	10:03
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Dr_Willis	I tend to install Ubuntu, then install kubuntu desktop	10:03
steveire	Dr_Willis: Any particular reason?	10:04
Ace2007	Of just a hint use the alternative install disk, the desktop install disk drove me mad	10:04
steveire	you also like gnome?	10:04
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steveire	or so you mean ubuntu-server	10:05
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Ace2007	speaking of gnome i was wondering if its file browser had tabs	10:05
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Ace2007	I was trying to open a new tab for ages when i first installed ubuntu 5.10	10:06
wolfmanz	abattoir finally got that ati driver working lastnight	10:06
Dr_Willis	steveire, it just seems to work better for me.. plus i always install ubuntu-dekstop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop anyway :P	10:06
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triceratops	abattoir: s/shoerelines/shorelines/	10:06
steveire	In my experience everything in ubuntu has tabs. It's great	10:06
Ace2007	steveire: I don't think the gnome file browser has	10:06
abattoir	wolfmanz: cool :) ; easyubuntu?	10:06
steveire	Dr_Willis: wow, seems like overkill to me. Do you use them all?	10:06
abattoir	triceratops: :)	10:06
Dr_Willis	steveire, depends on the job.	10:07
steveire	Ace2007: I'm sure you can install Konq on gnome	10:07
Dr_Willis	If i was smarter - id set up a nfs share :) or 3	10:07
steveire	then there's thunar also which I really like	10:07
Ace2007	steveire: Just the small problem of it looking nothing like my gnome apps, but in kde you can use the qtcurve theme to make everything look the same	10:08
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wolfmanz	abattoir ya i ended up using that but even that didnt enable the driver and that was the problem i was having when i installed it. It ended up the problem was do to a entry you made in the xorg.conf file it turns out that entry caused the machine to not boot	10:08
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steveire	Are there themes for Konq? But really thunar is very good.	10:08
steveire	Dr_Willis: What do you use under xubuntu?	10:09
Dr_Willis	Imust be old-skool. I tend to use mc in a terminal	10:09
abattoir	wolfmanz: 'YOU'==me ? :P	10:09
Dr_Willis	steveire, a few of its apps i like for different jobs. :P	10:09
Dr_Willis	or if i want a light desktop for a change. :P	10:09
wolfmanz	abattoir what	10:09
steveire	I mean filemangaer. Thunar?	10:09
Dr_Willis	I tend to mix and match from kde/gnome/xfce/windowmaker	10:09
Dr_Willis	:P	10:09
abattoir	wolfmanz: 'entry you made'	10:09
Ace2007	i installed the xubuntu desktop for playing UT	10:10
steveire	I liked icewm when I tried it a while ago...	10:10
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wolfmanz	abattoir a entry i was making based off a forum post that said this was the correct way to do it problem was its not the right way to do it lol	10:10
abattoir	wolfmanz: ok, i thought you meant i had screwed up :P	10:11
wolfmanz	abattoir no but that was frustrating that it took that long to get a graphics driver installed	10:11
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abattoir	wolfmanz: well, the downsides of using a closed driver... :(	10:12
wolfmanz	abattoir ya ati and nvidia both should be shot for that	10:12
apeman2020	can anyone tell me the default dir. of konqueror and firefox?	10:13
Ace2007	wolfmanz: At least they make drivers for linux	10:13
abattoir	wolfmanz: well, but if you think from their point of view, it makes sense, at least they take the effort to support linux, and provide drivers	10:13
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abattoir	wolfmanz: very few companies do that	10:13
wolfmanz	ace2007 o i would narely call the ati driver a driver its 3d performace is crap and the options it has are laughable	10:13
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Ace2007	wolfmanz: Thats why i got a Nvidia (is it just me or does it feel more comfortable to say "an Nvidia" instead of "a Nvidia")	10:15
abattoir	wolfmanz: hmm, i was reading a review somewhere... they'd compared ATi's linux and win drivers, and found little diff.	10:15
Ace2007	The drivers are easy to install	10:15
abattoir	Ace2007: well, its 'en'vidia, after all :P	10:15
triceratops	abattoir: Would it be seen as useless noise if I send a note about missing-language-pack-kde-nds ti riddell?	10:15
wolfmanz	abattoir i cant say anything about nvidia i dont use that card by the ATI i have seen reviews on and they in still in the darkages	10:16
abattoir	triceratops: well, i guess he's reading it now :P	10:16
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abattoir	triceratops: i dont know, its up to you, i guess	10:16
Ace2007	abattoir: 'en'vidia?	10:16
abattoir	Ace2007: yes, we pronounce it that way right? :)	10:17
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Riddell	triceratops: no	10:17
Ace2007	abattoir: Oh ok, i just thought it was some sort of play on words, like vidia meant something	10:18
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triceratops	Riddell: OK :))	10:18
jesspher	is there a big difference between agp 4x and 8x	10:19
wolfmanz	jesspher no there is not	10:19
Riddell	triceratops: please file a bug and subscribe pitti	10:19
jesspher	even a little difference?	10:19
wolfmanz	jesspher most video cards cant even max out the bandwidth of the 4x agp spec	10:19
Riddell	triceratops: or just give me the bug number	10:20
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jesspher	can nvidia geforce 6600 gt be working really well on agp 4x?	10:20
wolfmanz	jesspher yup	10:20
abattoir	Ace2007: iirc, it does mean something... w/ envy.. greek i think...	10:21
Ace2007	abattoir: Yea i was just trying to figure out what the vidia meant but i didn't know it was greak	10:22
Ace2007	greek*	10:22
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z00m	how do i add a new user in the terminal and delete a user ?	10:23
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z00m	please..	10:24
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aliasfred	look at 'adduser' or useradd	10:24
aliasfred	same with del	10:24
z00m	deluser ?	10:24
z00m	userdel ?	10:24
aliasfred	yes	10:24
Dr_Willis	deluser	10:24
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Dr_Willis	man deluser	10:25
Dr_Willis	see the 'see also/related files' section	10:25
triceratops	Riddell: How may I subscribe pitti to a bug report in launchpad?	10:25
triceratops	Riddell: Its #54581 in Launchpad...	10:26
apeman2020	is it possible to install flash in konqueror?	10:26
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GBK	any thunderbird boffins out here?	10:26
steveire	apeman2020: AFAIK Konq will use your ff plugins	10:27
jesspher	so there is no point of upgrading to agp 8z	10:27
steveire	!flash > me	10:27
Riddell	triceratops: thanks, I've confirmed it and subscribed him	10:28
triceratops	Riddell: Ahh as I see subscibing another person can be done after reporting a bug..	10:28
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eamon	how do I update aptitude's lists? I know it's apt-cache something...	10:28
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digitalslacker	apeman2020: you may want to check the wiki page on flash at http://tinyurl.com/rdzd6	10:29
steveire	Yeah it's in the wiki under flash, but you have to change a setting apeman2020	10:29
apeman2020	thanks all	10:29
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aliasfred	eamon: 'apt-get update'	10:29
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steveire	sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade	10:30
eamon	aliasfred: I thought that just updated the packages? How do I fetch the latest package lists?	10:30
Ace2007	whats aptitude? is it replacing apt-get?	10:30
z00m	how to del a folder ?	10:31
z00m	in terminal	10:31
steveire	upgrade updates the packages. update updates the latest package lists	10:31
apeman2020	aptitude is just a gui for package management	10:31
steveire	rm foldername	10:31
steveire	it's a terminal gui	10:31
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steveire	aptitude has some features apt-get doesn't	10:32
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z00m	rm: cannot remove `com': Is a directory	10:32
eamon	!easy-sources	10:32
ubotu	I know nothing about easy-sources - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu	10:32
MukiEX	Does ubuntu in general have trouble connecting via wireless cards?	10:32
Ace2007	so its not going to replace apt-get?	10:32
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apeman2020	no i think you can use either	10:32
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eamon	!multiverse	10:32
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	10:32
apeman2020	i always use apt-get, unless i cant fine a package name!	10:32
steveire	apt-get will not be removed	10:32
eamon	!easysource	10:33
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	10:33
eamon	Thanks ubotu!	10:33
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oomph69	whats the apt command to list what packages you've already got installed?	10:33
Ace2007	I always use Synaptic, its just nice, its like the one of the only gnome apps i use	10:33
apeman2020	open your command prompt	10:33
apeman2020	and type	10:33
apeman2020	apt-get --help	10:34
apeman2020	it should list the commands for you	10:34
apeman2020	can someone please point there browser at www.thecleverdog.com	10:34
apeman2020	tell me what you see..	10:34
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jordan	hi	10:35
StrudelNinja	http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/072906/linux-dog.gif	10:35
osh_	COMING SOON!	10:35
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osh_	That's what I see.	10:36
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oomph69	apeman2020 i did --help but the system im on is in spanish :P	10:36
oomph69	and I cant read it very well when I do a --help	10:37
oomph69	is there a way to specifiy it in english?	10:37
apeman2020	ah	10:37
apeman2020	let me give you the command then.. give me one second	10:37
oomph69	thanks	10:37
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oomph69	its a system im preparing for my cousin who is in south america, i set it up for spanish but now all my man pages are in spanish too, heh	10:38
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Ace2007	StrudelNinja: Funny Pic	10:38
apeman2020	apt-get update	10:39
Tokeiito	i've installed firefox with automatix. But there is no DOM inspector in this installation. how i can fix this?	10:39
Tokeiito	normaly when installing it from binarys there is option: Install developers tool	10:39
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oomph69	apt-get update only updates my list of sources... i'd like to know what the apt- command is to verify what is already installed	10:40
Dr_Willis	!apt-get	10:41
ubotu	apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)	10:41
Tokeiito	oomph69: man apt-get	10:41
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Dr_Willis	one of the 10000 options that i can never rember. :P	10:41
oomph69	Dr_Willis thanks	10:41
apeman2020	try this apt-get -u	10:41
oomph69	Tokeiito thanks but the man pages are in spanish and I cant read it very well :)	10:41
Tokeiito	what???	10:41
Tokeiito	xm	10:42
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Ace2007	Um... i think there is something wrong with my CRT monitor, when i switch from a desktop 1 with a dark background to 2 with a light background the screen area gets bigger	10:42
Tokeiito	nice	10:42
apeman2020	how did you end up on a spanish distro oomph?	10:42
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oomph69	apeman2020 i installed the spanish language stuff	10:42
Tokeiito	so. what about Firefox from automatix and DOM inspector in it?	10:42
oomph69	apeman2020 its an old laptop im putting together to send to a cousin	10:42
oomph69	he speaks spanish	10:42
oomph69	so i figured id set it up for him that way	10:42
apeman2020	cool	10:43
apeman2020	good on you!	10:43
apeman2020	did the -u work?	10:43
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oomph69	no, heh	10:43
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apeman2020	go to system tools apttitude	10:43
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apeman2020	then look for installed packages	10:43
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apeman2020	sorry	10:44
apeman2020	adept	10:44
cyber_brain_mfkg	should i delete old vmlinuz & initrd files from my root dir??? what r those files???	10:44
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oomph69	apt-cache pkgnames	10:44
oomph69	i think this might be it	10:44
Dr_Willis	cyber_brain_mfkg, if ya dont know what somthing is... LEAVE it alone.	10:45
Dr_Willis	:P	10:45
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cyber_brain_mfkg	maybe thats old kernel???	10:45
cyber_brain_mfkg	i have 2 on boot	10:45
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jordan_	I love Linux spoofing and free internet for secend computer :)	10:47
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Dr_Willis	Hmm... i just use a linksys router to get all my box';s on the internet	10:48
Dr_Willis	:P	10:48
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oomph	Dr_Willis which router you got? i just flashed mine with the DD-WRT works great	10:51
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Dr_Willis	oomph, got a mini linksys router.. was on sale.. does a ok job.	10:51
Dr_Willis	:P	10:51
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Dr_Willis	about the 4th router ive had.	10:51
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oomph	mini linksys router? as in which model?	10:52
oomph	wrt54g i believe are the flashable ones	10:53
eamon	How come kate is crashing on a fresh install of kubuntu 6.06? http://pastebin.ca/107095	10:53
apeman2020	wrt54g is impossible to upgrade..	10:53
apeman2020	i have one at home.. its not bad for a low cost router.. i can just never get the firmware upgraded..	10:54
crimsun	works fine if I use Firefox to access the Web frontend.	10:55
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acojlo	anyone tryed asus wlan router?	10:55
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acojlo	eamon: graphics drive (frame buffer) either bad ram	10:56
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eamon	acojlo: How do I fix this?	10:56
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acojlo	don't know - just read in Doc about frame buffer unstability	10:57
eamon	acojlo: it runs fine when I'm not launching it from terminal	10:57
larson9999	does anyone here if you can watch the daily show from comedycentral on linux? trying to figure out if it's just my setup or it can't be done.	10:57
acojlo	so, don't do it :)	10:57
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eamon	I just want to edit my sources.list with root privilages	10:58
eamon	acojlo ^	10:58
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aliasfred	larson9999: do you have an url ?	10:58
acojlo	people, there is "kdesu" for running gui apps from command line as root. Is there a launcher from command line for running as normal user ?	10:58
larson9999	aliasfred: http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/index.jhtml click on watch	10:59
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eamon	acojlo: Thanks, kdesu worked	10:59
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acojlo	eamond: with kdesu you run apps as the root use - unlimited power on your computer	11:01
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dimsuz	anyone knows why "nmap <F10> :wq<CR>" pulls gtk-menu rather than quitting?	11:03
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dimsuz	oh, I'm talking about gvim :)	11:03
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dimsuz	in other distros it works as expected	11:04
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jordan_	How to save ifconfig before rebooting ?	11:07
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jordan_	How to save ifconfig before rebooting ?	11:09
bkudria	where do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?	11:09
irvin	hy	11:09
bkudria	jordan_: all that is defined in /etc/network/interfaces	11:10
AegeanLinux	apeman2020: hey man	11:10
AegeanLinux	Ace2007: hey man	11:10
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apeman2020	how can i test to see if my LAMP install is operating correctly, specifically the MYSQL and PHP	11:12
bkudria	apeman2020: install a simple lamp app?	11:12
bkudria	apeman2020: the most useful would probably be phpmyadmin	11:12
AegeanLinux	install MediaWiki (www.mediawiki.org)	11:12
bkudria	:)	11:13
AegeanLinux	and like bkudria said go for MyPHP	11:13
AegeanLinux	*PhpMyAdmin	11:13
apeman2020	I got a 40 gig for you	11:13
apeman2020	i can run that from the command line?	11:13
unix_infidel	can you define which AP's a wireless interface should associate with in /etc/network/interfaces	11:14
unix_infidel	??	11:14
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jordan_	I look for something like TotalComander in XP for linux ofcourse ?	11:14
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lens	I am trying to compile, I got the ./configure part to work with no errors, but once I type "make" it gives me errors, could anyone help, I could pastebin or whatever.	11:15
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Ace2007	AegeanLinux: Hi	11:15
AegeanLinux	Ace2007: how's Kubuntu doing you :P	11:15
jordan_	I look for something like TotalComander in XP for linux ofcourse ?	11:15
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Dr_Willis	:P	11:16
Ace2007	AegeanLinux: Its great, i'm going to install XGL now :D	11:16
unix_infidel	anyone know how i can get my eth1 do automatically associate with a predefined Ap once it sees it in range/	11:16
unix_infidel	similar to windows PX	11:16
AegeanLinux	Ace2007: Have phun getting it to work (:P)	11:16
unix_infidel	XP*	11:16
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unix_infidel	what i'm looking for is a command line app or just a file config, not a gui app for gnome or KDE etc etc	11:17
unix_infidel	can wpa_supplicant manage it?	11:17
Ace2007	AegeanLinux: It'll be easy, i'm going to follow a guide from the forum	11:17
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kameronk	quick question, to compile apache, should i use "sudo make install" or "make install"?	11:17
AegeanLinux	sudo make install	11:17
unix_infidel	as regular user: ./configure, make. As super user, sudo make install	11:17
AegeanLinux	(unless you are root)	11:17
kameronk	thank you, AegeanLinux	11:17
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Dr_Willis	to compile, 'make' then to install 'sudo make install'	11:17
kameronk	yes, i knew that i could run make as myself, i just couldn't remember if i needed to be root to install	11:18
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Dr_Willis	logically to do somthng major like installing system wide programs.. would logically imple that you need to be root. :P	11:19
Dr_Willis	:)	11:19
Kr4t05	Dr_Willis: Now you sound like Spock, with all of the logic.	11:19
kameronk	Dr_Willis, now that you say that, that does make sense	11:19
unix_infidel	anyone for my dynamic association question. I'm looking for a CLI app that manages automatic association to a predefined AP similar to windows XP	11:19
Dr_Willis	:P	11:20
unix_infidel	??	11:20
jordan_	I look for something like TotalComander in XP for linux ofcourse ?	11:20
Dr_Willis	make sence = sounds logical.	11:20
Dr_Willis	:)	11:20
Dr_Willis	jordan_, has it occoured to you that NO one has a CLUE what TotalComander is....	11:20
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Dr_Willis	jordan_, go to freshmeat.net and look - is the next bit of advice. :P	11:21
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jordan_	Dr_Willis MAYBE this programe is not populat in your country	11:22
acojlo_	how to mount fat32 parition from mtab with read & write access for me?	11:22
Dr_Willis	jordan_, maybe no one else has ever heard of it then you. :P You have be sort of asked several times what the program does.. so we can have a clue as to what alternatives would suite you	11:23
Ace2007	Bye for now :)	11:23
lens	I can ./configure this without any errors, but cant get past the make part... here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/107149	11:23
AegeanLinux	lens: Get another version of GCC and compile with that	11:24
StrudelNinja	Hey, my friend says there's an imwheel build in the repository but it's not showing on my search. He says I should allow the universal repository, is there anything bad about it? or is it all safe and whatnot?	11:24
AegeanLinux	(eg cross compile it with GCC2)	11:24
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lens	AegeanLinux - kinda not too keen on the language, could tell me what to type in the command line?	11:25
Dr_Willis	!info imwheel	11:25
ubotu	imwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-5 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 264 kB	11:25
Dr_Willis	why do you need imwheel?	11:25
StrudelNinja	my side mouse buttons aren't working	11:25
Dr_Willis	Thers proberly ways to get them working without imwheel.. it can be a real pain	11:26
Dr_Willis	what kind of mouse?	11:26
AegeanLinux	apt-get install gcc-3.3	11:26
StrudelNinja	logitech mx510	11:26
lens	thanks I owe you one ;)	11:26
AegeanLinux	export CXX=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3	11:26
AegeanLinux	./configure	11:26
AegeanLinux	make	11:26
AegeanLinux	sudo make isntall	11:26
AegeanLinux	*install	11:26
lens	awesome, I really want this program to work :)	11:26
jordan_	Dr_Willis sory if I have piqued you. This programe is like ftp in your hdd, You can simply copy your file between hdd	11:27
AegeanLinux	;) Thats the reason why Ubuntu has gcc-2.95 , gcc-3.3 and gcc-4.0	11:27
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AegeanLinux	if it doesn't work lens, try with GCC-2.95	11:27
AegeanLinux	KK lens	11:27
carthik	Can someone explain what the "playlist shuffle" dynamic playlist items to do?	11:27
carthik	in amarok, that is	11:27
Dr_Willis	jordan_, are you refering to a '2 pane file manager' one dir on the left and one dir on the right?	11:28
lens	k, 3.3 said could not get lock AegeanLinux, so I'll try 2.95	11:28
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AegeanLinux	Do it with Adept then lens	11:28
lens	good idea	11:28
jordan_	Dr_Willis yes exactly	11:28
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Dr_Willis	jordan_, mc, worker, gentoo	11:29
Dr_Willis	:P	11:29
Dr_Willis	see how much easier that was.	11:29
StrudelNinja	all I could find on google was to use imwheel or mess around with some configs and stuff that I don't know how to do	11:29
Dr_Willis	and lets see.. others... konqueror had a feature like that, filerunner, and perhaps a dozen others i cant rmber	11:29
jordan_	Dr_Willis yes sorry :) so what's the best ?	11:30
Dr_Willis	mc - is the definitive 2 pane file maager.	11:30
Dr_Willis	worker - woud be my #2 choice	11:30
AegeanLinux	lens: OK. I g2g to School. Speak laters ;)	11:30
jordan_	so worker I'm install :)	11:31
lens	AegeanLinux... cool I think this will work	11:31
lens	thanks	11:31
AegeanLinux	lens: good to hear	11:31
AegeanLinux	Toodles, Y'all	11:31
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Dr_Willis	mc - is a must get tool.. since its also a text based/console tool	11:31
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Dr_Willis	freshmeat.net will list otherz	11:32
StrudelNinja	alright I have to go, I'll come back later and ask around again	11:32
kbrooks	I want wmv support in kubunttu	11:32
jordan_	Dr_Willis Thanks a lot	11:32
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grothesk_	Riddell: Great job! artsd is running again in kde 3.5.4!	11:32
Dr_Willis	!wmv	11:32
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	11:32
Dr_Willis	some wmvs can play.. some cant.	11:33
Riddell	grothesk_: good to know :)	11:33
grothesk_	Riddell: But I still can't use usbmedia.	11:33
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kbrooks	thanks Dr_Willis]	11:34
Dr_Willis	egads 'worker' is brightly colored...	11:34
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sysrpl	how easy is it to compile a gnu c project on ubuntu and target it to a windows console executable?	11:35
lens	I installed every version of GCC, but... how do I specify which one to use in the command line?	11:35
grothesk_	Riddell: system:/media/sda1 is being opened in konqueror, but 'Unknown error' pop up. The stick appears as empty	11:35
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divansantana	hey everybody!	11:36
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divansantana	Can anyone suggest which FS is faster yet still stable between ext3 and reiser?	11:37
divansantana	if ext3, wich options should u enable etc?	11:37
jordan_	Dr_Willis mc is fore terminal, What's for kde ?	11:37
kbrooks	"wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb" doesnt work	11:37
lens	can I type something like ./configure -GCC 3.3 or something to specify the compoiler?	11:37
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kbrooks	the wget part	11:37
Dr_Willis	jordan_, run mc in a konsole.. its that good.	11:37
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kbrooks	lens: no, GCC=gcc-3.3 ./configure	11:38
Dr_Willis	jordan_, or try gentoo, or worker	11:38
Dr_Willis	mc beats the rest once ya learn it	11:38
lens	kbrooks... thanks!	11:38
jordan_	Dr_Willis oki, I run mc in a konsole it's nice, but a like operete the mause :)	11:38
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Dr_Willis	jordan_, i can do things in mc so fast... without the mouse... its amazing	11:39
Dr_Willis	:P	11:39
Riddell	grothesk_: yep, confirmed	11:39
Dr_Willis	you may want to check the konsole shortcuts and disable the use of F10 by konsole. :P it interfears with mc's f10	11:40
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divansantana	Riddell: Can I ask u a ques quick, please?	11:41
divansantana	I upgraded to kde3.5.4 stupidly early, is the files at kubuntu.org/packages correct and safe yet?	11:41
divansantana	because my system is quite buggered at moment. - I know I should have waiting for announcement, any suggestions/help/ideas?	11:41
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grothesk	divansantana: What is buggy?	11:42
Riddell	divansantana: they are not released so there's no guarantee that they won't break your system	11:42
Riddell	divansantana: although I don't know of any problems other than media:/ being a bit broken	11:42
divansantana	since upgrading to 3.5.4 from 3.5.3 all my settings seems lost and look is different, address bar in konq is gone and can't get it ack	11:43
divansantana	normally it upgrades perfectly, could it be cause I did it to early?	11:43
kbrooks	doubt it divansantana	11:43
grothesk	divansantana: For addressbar I do have a solution.	11:43
kameronk	does anyone here run apache?	11:44
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divansantana	I think perhaps some packages got removed and some didnt get installed and thats why everything bit broke	11:44
grothesk	divansantana: konquerer is bein called bei 'kfmclient FOOBARprofile' right?	11:44
divansantana	is kdelibs-bin libpqxx-2.5.5c2 supposed to be removed?	11:45
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gnomefreak	Riddell: this bug i asked you about this morning is all yours (btw libpoppler is not an issue in dapper for me)	11:45
divansantana	checking...	11:45
grothesk	divansantana: Change it to: konqueror -profile filemanagement	11:45
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divansantana	gnomefreak: i cant even tell, the settings and view file etc are all moved around and there is no profiles button	11:46
gnomefreak	divansantana: huh?	11:46
divansantana	grothesk: i cant even tell, the settings and view file etc are all moved around and there is no profiles button	11:46
divansantana	sorry	11:46
gnomefreak	oh ok	11:46
grothesk	divansantana: How do you start konqueror?	11:47
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france_	hi, i was wondering if someone can help a newbie out to linux :P question : i can't install my printer drivers	11:48
divansantana	either through kde menu or through katapult	11:48
grothesk	So check what is behind the kmenu entry for koqueror.	11:49
divansantana	kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing	11:50
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divansantana	please check this and help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19259	11:51
andi_	Hallo ih Kubuntu benutzer :)	11:51
grothesk	divansantana: Change kfmclient .... to konqueror -profile filemanagement	11:52
divansantana	if you can? My whole kde system went crazy, window settings changed, kicker didnt have half the things, amarok gave me welcome wizard, konq is totally unusable	11:52
kbrooks	i want to watch whatevers in kaffiene in konqueror	11:52
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grothesk	Or konqueror -profile webbrowsing divansantana	11:52
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divansantana	trying..	11:52
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divansantana	nope, still has no address bar etc, want screen dump?	11:53
grothesk	divansantana: No, I know how it looks.	11:53
grothesk	I had the same trouble earlier.	11:53
divansantana	did everyapp change look and feel etc?	11:54
divansantana	how did u fix it?	11:54
divansantana	I am backing up, will prob have to format reinstall cause working in morning and my system is practically unusable at mo	11:54
grothesk	I backupped my .kde directory and did start a new session.	11:55
divansantana	silly me impatient for kde354	11:55
divansantana	new session??	11:55
grothesk	Then I changed it 'konqueror -profile PROFILE'	11:55
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grothesk	And then ich copied over my backup of .kde.	11:56
grothesk	Worked for me.	11:56
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Karti	Hi all	11:56
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kbrooks	divansantana: did you backup ~/.kde	11:56
divansantana	basicly upgrading to kde354 reset all my settings to kde354 instead of kubuntu dapper, eg the kmenu bar says kde instead of kubuntu	11:56
divansantana	any ideas??	11:57
divansantana	have backed up .kde...	11:57
divansantana	fonts have changed, windows buttons/actions,settings all sorts of things	11:58
Dr_Willis	sounds like a feature/bonus to me. :P	11:58
Karti	Just a quick one? Anyone suggest a good way to learn linux for ubuntu?	11:58
kameronk	Karti, just use it	11:58
divansantana	agreed...	11:58
Dr_Willis	read and read and read...	11:59
Dr_Willis	and twiddle/learn/explore	11:59
Dr_Willis	buy books ya fund on the bargin tables at the bookstores	11:59
Karti	kameronk: divansantana: That was what I was thinking of. Then sort out any problems as and when I come to them	11:59
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jordan_	jordan@jordan:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf	11:59
jordan_	perl: warning: Setting locale failed.	11:59
jordan_	perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:	11:59
jordan_	LANGUAGE = "pl_PL:pl:en_GB:en",	11:59
jordan_	LC_ALL = (unset),	11:59
jordan_	LANG = "pl_PL"	12:00
jordan_	are supported and installed on your system.	12:00
jordan_	perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").	12:00
grothesk	jordan_: NO PASTE!	12:00
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jordan_	locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory	12:00
jordan_	locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory	12:00
jordan_	locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory	12:00
jordan_	/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory	12:00
jordan_	/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory	12:00
jordan_	/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory	12:00
jordan_	it's oki ?	12:00
grothesk	jordan_: NO PASTE!	12:00
kbrooks	jordan_: do not paste here	12:00
kameronk	Karti, i agree, that's the best way, unless you have another reason	12:00
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jordan_	sorry wrong windows. Sorry big mistake	12:01
kameronk	Karti, just look for a solution, and if you're trying to stop using windows, don't go back to solve a problem.	12:01
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apeman2020	can anyone name a php package?	12:03
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france_	stats	12:04
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divansantana	Can someone please help with backing up and restoring emails with kmail?	12:05
divansantana	When I do it it marks all of them as unread, any ideas?	12:05
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