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| crimsun | 'lo raphink :) | 12:19 |
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| raphink | hi crimsun | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | hi raphink | 12:25 |
| raphink | hello LaserJock | 12:25 |
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| tomveens | hi | 01:18 |
| tomveens | what about the wired package | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | what about it? | 01:21 |
| tomveens | the progress | 01:21 |
| tomveens | I'ts almost impossible to compile it for my ubuntu amd64 | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well I have no idea what you are talking about, unfortunately | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | so I can't give you any info | 01:22 |
| tomveens | you know wired? | 01:22 |
| tomveens | thats a new DAW for linux | 01:22 |
| tomveens | Digital Audio Workstation | 01:23 |
| tomveens | looks great | 01:23 |
| tomveens | works! I don't know? | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | has somebody been working on it? | 01:23 |
| tomveens | I thought it was a release candidate in you're list but I can not figure out what is the progress. Or is there any progress, what are the problems? | 01:24 |
| crimsun | I don't see 'wired' at all on REVU, and it's not in the repos. | 01:25 |
| crimsun | [wired.sf.net] | 01:25 |
| crimsun | or [wired.is.free.fr] | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | it's on Candidates | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | and there is a Debian ITP | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | debian bug #372849 | 01:26 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 372849 in wnpp "Subject: ITP: wired -- music production and creation software" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/372849 | 01:26 |
| tomveens | there I saw it yes | 01:26 |
| tomveens | was only for 386 | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah, so I don't know if anybody is working on it in Ubuntu | 01:27 |
| crimsun | wired-daw seems like a suitable srcpkg name. | 01:27 |
| tomveens | what is that? | 01:27 |
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| LaserJock | yeah, wired is a very vauge name | 01:27 |
| tomveens | you mean source package | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:27 |
| crimsun | not to mention the clash with the other wnpp | 01:27 |
| tomveens | yes | 01:27 |
| tomveens | It is almost impossible to compile | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | "Notice that there is already an RFP (#353608) for a completely different | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | program also named wired. One of us will have to change its upstream name..." | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 01:28 |
| tomveens | change to wired-daw is okay! | 01:28 |
| tomveens | you know something about the blender 2.42 package? | 01:29 |
| Toadstool | yay! cdbs updated in sid! who wants to request an uvf exception? :) | 01:29 |
| Toadstool | hi everybody | 01:29 |
| tomveens | hi | 01:30 |
| slomo | Toadstool: what was updated? | 01:30 |
| crimsun | Toadstool: but we already have a delta, so I don't know if it's really worth it ;) | 01:30 |
| tomveens | or cinelerra package? | 01:30 |
| crimsun | (meaning a delta prior to ogra's upload yesterday) | 01:30 |
| Toadstool | :) | 01:30 |
| Toadstool | slomo: er, a few bashism removed, a big fix in python-distutils.mk and... some other things | 01:31 |
| Toadstool | *bashisms | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: hmm, blender 2.42 just hit Debian not too long ago | 01:32 |
| tomveens | you mean a package? | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:34 |
| shawarma | Any takers of a really simple merge? http://www.linux2go.dk/edgy-merges/dietlibc-merge.diff | 01:34 |
| tomveens | amd64? | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | and cinelerra seems to be a work in progress | 01:34 |
| tomveens | what are the problems for cinelerra, you know? | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: it seems like a yes on blender for amd64 | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | I don't know | 01:36 |
| tomveens | I just saw it | 01:36 |
| tomveens | and i've got the deb | 01:36 |
| tomveens | thank you | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: it just says that Rodrigo Belem is working on it (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RodrigoBelem) | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: I suppose you could email him and ask him how it is progressing if you feel the need | 01:37 |
| tomveens | I will | 01:38 |
| crimsun | shawarma: sure, sec. | 01:38 |
| tomveens | thanks | 01:38 |
| shawarma | crimsun: er... hang on. | 01:40 |
| crimsun | shawarma: (too late) | 01:40 |
| tomveens | blender 2.42 is not satisfied with my libavcodecs | 01:40 |
| shawarma | crimsun: I got my build logs messed up. It appears to ftbfs. | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: what are you running? | 01:42 |
| tomveens | blender 2.41 (is that what you mean?) | 01:42 |
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| LaserJock | tomveens: no what release of what | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | distro | 01:43 |
| tomveens | ubuntu dapper | 01:43 |
| crimsun | shawarma: that may be unrelated to dietlibc, though, noting make[1] : *** [bin-x86_64/elftrunc] Segmentation fault | 01:44 |
| crimsun | I haven't looked more closely yet. | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: and what are you trying to install? | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | blender 2.42? | 01:44 |
| tomveens | yes | 01:45 |
| tomveens | what is you're point? | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: well, Debian's blender 2.42 package is built using different packages then Dapper | 01:46 |
| LaserJock | so you could have problems | 01:46 |
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| tomveens | I know that, but I hoped because it is family, that it was possible | 01:46 |
| tomveens | I realy want to try the new blender | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | then you could build it on your dapper box using the Debian source | 01:47 |
| tomveens | I want to use openexr, and my timeline is shit | 01:47 |
| tomveens | that is an option | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | !info blender edgy | 01:48 |
| ubotu | blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 4797 kB, installed size 12744 kB | 01:48 |
| tomveens | You think it is easy to make the debian source a ubuntu package? | 01:49 |
| shawarma | crimsun: I'm quite sure it's dietlibc. | 01:49 |
| shawarma | crimsun: I'm looking at it now. | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: hmm, looking at the current edgy package it looks like it might need a little tweaking | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | tomveens: you could try it I guess | 01:50 |
| tomveens | is the blender 2.42 already in the edgy package list? | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | no | 01:51 |
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| LaserJock | it would need an upstream version freeze (UVF) request | 01:51 |
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| LaserJock | since Ubuntu's Main repo has frozen | 01:51 |
| tomveens | why? | 01:51 |
| tomveens | and what is an uvf request? | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | well, right now the Main repo is under a freeze which mean you need to get permission to update a package to a newer version | 01:53 |
| lfittl_ | LaserJock: are you still talking about blender? (ogra is working on it) | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | so it can be requested, but it isn't going to be automatically included | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | lfittl_: yeah | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | ah, excellent | 01:54 |
| tomveens | can I help? | 01:55 |
| lfittl_ | LaserJock: problem is they added ffmpeg export/import, and we are not sure yet if we simply compile it without it, or solve it otherwise (e.g. by making a blender-ffmpeg package available) | 01:55 |
| LaserJock | ah, :/ | 01:56 |
| lfittl_ | tomveens: thanks, but there is not much you can do, it's complicated because we don't have ffmpeg in main, and blender needs it | 01:56 |
| lfittl_ | tomveens: just wait for ogra, he will work on it | 01:57 |
| tomveens | How does the package procedure work? | 01:57 |
| lfittl_ | what exactly do you mean? | 01:58 |
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| tomveens | how does a new package begins and how does it ends? | 02:05 |
| tomveens | do you need to inform canonical for some packages? | 02:05 |
| tseng | you need to inform MOTU here | 02:05 |
| tseng | you upload your packages to REVU for... review | 02:05 |
| tseng | with enough votes someone will upload it for you | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | hmm, anybody know of any good documentation for uscan and uupdate? | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I think I've got an ok watch file, I'm just not sure what to do with it | 02:18 |
| slomo | LaserJock: what exactly do you want to know? | 02:18 |
| slomo | run uscan -v to see whether your watch file works ;) | 02:19 |
| shawarma | crimsun: I found the error in dietlibc. I'll fix it tomorrow. Sorry. | 02:19 |
| shawarma | must... have... sleep.... Zzzz.... | 02:20 |
| shawarma | G'night, guys! | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | slomo: ok, so the watch file works. uscan gave me a new upstream tarball | 02:21 |
| slomo | LaserJock: if you add "debian uupdate" at the end of the url-line of the watch file uscan will automatically run uupdate on the new upstream tarball | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | ahh | 02:22 |
| shawarma | crimsun: Arh, heck. Here's the new patch: http://www.linux2go.dk/edgy-merges/dietlibc-merge.diff | 02:24 |
| shawarma | crimsun: And that one actually builds. | 02:24 |
| shawarma | crimsun: Hmm... if you actually uploaded the other one I sent will something go bad since this is the same ubuntu revision? | 02:24 |
| slomo | it won't work... you have to make a new revision | 02:26 |
| slomo | (unless you upload before some script that runs all 5 minutes gets the upload) | 02:27 |
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| LaserJock | hi imbrandon | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | heya LaserJock | 02:56 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: how's it going? | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | good good, just wakin up , getting some coffee^mt dew in me ;) | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | wakin up? | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | out of bed | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | kinda a late start ;) | 03:07 |
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| LaserJock | imbrandon: I'll say. :-) | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | heh ok brb afk ~20 minutes , breakfast^Wdinner , shower and other morning type things , bbiab | 03:08 |
| Toadstool | 3am... time to go to bed :) | 03:09 |
| Toadstool | g'night | 03:09 |
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| zul | er....ok... | 03:16 |
| zul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:17 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian and zul | 03:26 |
| zul | hi LaserJock | 03:26 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 03:26 |
| bddebian | Anyone know autoconf very well? | 03:27 |
| bddebian | What utility is it to read the packages file and rip out reverse build depends? | 03:37 |
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| ajmitch | you don't | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | you read the sources file | 03:37 |
| bddebian | That's what I meant but what do I use? | 03:37 |
| slomo | grep-dctrl | 03:38 |
| bddebian | Thanks slomo | 03:38 |
| slomo | grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends -FBuild-Depends-Indep $package /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources | 03:38 |
| zul | didnt we go through this before? | 03:39 |
| bddebian | Yep, and will probably go through it again. I'm brain dead | 03:39 |
| zul | yes we know :) | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Love you too honey | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: that's what sticky notes are for :-) | 03:40 |
| zul | or you just remmember :) | 03:40 |
| bddebian | slomo: Isn't AC_CHECK_HEADERS[] supposed to be [header, if yes, if no] ? | 03:41 |
| bddebian | zul: Well we all can't be as good as you | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | slomo: I tried out metacity with its compositing manager | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | slomo: it's not going to be on by default in edgy, I'd say | 03:41 |
| bddebian | la la la | 03:49 |
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| bddebian | Is this valid? | 03:52 |
| bddebian | grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends -FBuild-Depends-Indep $package /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources | 03:52 |
| bddebian | Gah, damnit | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | no | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | use cat | 03:52 |
| bddebian | AC_CHECK_HEADERS([linux/videodev2.h] , [v4l2=yes] , [v4l2=no] , | 03:52 |
| bddebian | [#include <linux/types.h>] ) | 03:52 |
| bddebian | Is the 4th param valid? | 03:53 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: What about the Policy? | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I'm just upgrading gausssum in Debian | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | I'd like to make sure I do it right the first time | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Ah :-) | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | so apparently the Debian maitainer of debhelper doesn't much care for the new policy | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | it has to be NMU'd | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | that's interesting to me | 03:58 |
| bddebian | :) | 03:58 |
| bddebian | ajmitch, slomo, anyone know my AC_CHECK_HEADER thing? | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | darn, how are you supposed to know what to version these python deps? | 04:04 |
| zul | anyone seen this before? dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of `NEEDED libxenstore.so' not recognized | 04:05 |
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| LaserJock | hi tritium | 04:06 |
| tritium | hi LaserJock | 04:06 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: You don't need to, that's the beauty of it | 04:06 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 04:06 |
| tritium | heya bddebian | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: right now it looks like I need debhelper (>= 5.0.37.2), python (>= 2.3.5-7), python-all-dev, python-central (>= 0.4.17) | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | but I think python (>= 2.3.5-10) would work too | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | do you really have to crawl through the changelog of every dep to find these things? | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | anybody know of an email or something that says what to use? | 04:08 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: Hang on | 04:14 |
| bddebian | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy | 04:14 |
| bddebian | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPythonFAQ | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: thanks! | 04:15 |
| bddebian | Well transcode's wiki page sucks | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: sounds good | 04:20 |
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| bddebian | w00t, axiom built | 04:22 |
| bddebian | On all archs I might add (except possibly sparc) | 04:22 |
| zul | whee | 04:23 |
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| zul | that reminds me i need something to drink | 04:24 |
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| LaserJock | *-o-* | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | *-o/* | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | *\o/* | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | my cheerleading skills stink | 04:28 |
| fowlduck | is that a cheerleader? | 04:28 |
| fowlduck | haha :) | 04:28 |
| zul | whee...got it | 04:28 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: :-) | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | goooooooo BDDEBIAN! | 04:32 |
| bddebian | Well I'm doing much worse on slomo's list :-( | 04:33 |
| bddebian | autoreconf runs aclocal right? | 04:46 |
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| bddebian | @$%$^2456 | 05:23 |
| bddebian | slomo: Still around? | 05:23 |
| tseng | wish he was | 05:24 |
| tseng | but it seems not | 05:24 |
| bddebian | Heya tseng | 05:24 |
| tseng | hi | 05:24 |
| !lilo:*! Happy Sunday afternoon.... reminder to Aus users: freenode's unofficial channel for its Australian users is ##australia .... please feel free to stop by :) | 05:38 | |
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| LaserJock | \o/ | 05:58 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: ? | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | I think my gausssum package is ready to go | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | it's very nearly lintian clean | 06:00 |
| bddebian | Sweet, congrats! | 06:01 |
| LaserJock | I think everybody should maintain at least one package in Debian | 06:05 |
| bddebian | No way ;-P | 06:07 |
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| Yagisan | LaserJock, I'm personally not intrested in that. While there are some good areas (-mentors, -games, the people that also work on ubuntu) where people act decent, | 06:09 |
| Yagisan | I just found that there far to many hostile, technocrats that I probally would not be able to work with. I looked at joining 4 times, and each time, those people put me off, so I've no intention of considering it again | 06:10 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Sounds familiar :-) | 06:10 |
| Yagisan | bddebian, I admire the work that many of them do, but, the bulk either don't encourage new developers, or show apathy towards it by not reigning in the jerks. | 06:12 |
| bddebian | Aye, that is what brought me to Ubuntu | 06:14 |
| bddebian | Though I suppose many in Ubuntu aren't necessarily happy about that either ;-P | 06:14 |
| Yagisan | bddebian, well, that I suppose is another thing we have in common | 06:15 |
| bddebian | :-) | 06:15 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 06:23 |
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| Yagisan | G'day Hobbsee | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | hi Yagisan | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: well, I never said that you had to become a DD | 06:27 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock | 06:29 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock, To be honest, not being a DD is a very much second class status there. Not being an ubuntu member here is far less so, and does not prevent me from getting what I think is important from being done. | 06:29 |
| Yagisan | hmm. Do we have any live-USB verision of ubuntu ? | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: I know. I just like getting to know a package like you get to do in Debian | 06:35 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock, that I agree with. I maintain my own packages, that one day will be in Ubuntu. I should send the latest version to revu for comments on my packaging of it. | 06:37 |
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| ajmitch | afternoon | 06:55 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 06:55 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Hey, what do I do if running autoreconf causes unrepresentable changes to source? | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | autoreconf --install | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | otherwise it'll usually symlink which breaks things | 06:56 |
| bddebian | Frick. So I'm screwed now? | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | no | 06:57 |
| bddebian | I mean I have to re-pull and reapply all my fixes? | 06:57 |
| bddebian | Then autoreconf? | 06:57 |
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| ajmitch | whatever works | 06:58 |
| ajmitch | find the symlinks, remove them, rerun autoreconf | 06:58 |
| bddebian | Ah | 06:58 |
| bddebian | Isn't -i the same as --install? | 06:59 |
| bddebian | Ah, yes. I did autoreconf -f -i -s | 06:59 |
| bddebian | But still get that error | 06:59 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Should I not have done -f ? | 07:02 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: -s is symlink | 07:02 |
| ajmitch | I told you not to do that | 07:02 |
| bddebian | Oh, I meant that's what I ran the first time | 07:02 |
| ajmitch | and -i by default doesn't symlink | 07:02 |
| zakame | hi all | 07:03 |
| bddebian | Heya zakame | 07:04 |
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| zakame | heya bddebian, playing with autotools huh? | 07:04 |
| zakame | hmm why is my LP karma getting higher andhigher? :/ | 07:04 |
| bddebian | zakame: Just breaking stuff as usual :-) | 07:05 |
| crimsun | shawarma: changelog tweaked, interdiff(1) output applied, uploaded. | 07:09 |
| bddebian | Hi crimsun | 07:10 |
| zakame | hello crimsun | 07:10 |
| Hobbsee | hi crimsun | 07:10 |
| crimsun | 'lo bddebian, zakame, Hobbsee, ajmitch | 07:10 |
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| zakame | crapbroken spacebar | 07:11 |
| bddebian | hehe | 07:11 |
| ajmitch | hi crimsun | 07:12 |
| zakame | hi ajmitch | 07:12 |
| zakame | how's NetworkAuth going? | 07:12 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: I love you man! :-) | 07:13 |
| ajmitch | no you don't | 07:14 |
| ajmitch | zakame: going alright :) | 07:14 |
| ajmitch | how's your project? | 07:14 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I do | 07:14 |
| zakame | ajmitch: quite ok too ow completing the unit tests for integration :) | 07:15 |
| ajmitch | great :) | 07:15 |
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| zakame | bug 54520 | 07:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54520 in robotour "[Edgy MoM] Please sync robotour 3.2.1-3 from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54520 | 07:25 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 07:42 |
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| === Hobbsee deals with the usual mess of uni. how annoying. | ||
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: I feel your pain. | 08:54 |
| TheMuso | I remember the hassles I went through. | 08:54 |
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| Hobbsee | eek, yeah, yours were likely even worse. | 08:54 |
| TheMuso | Yeah. | 08:55 |
| Hobbsee | yay. it now says i'm doing the proper 4 subjects this semester, instead of three. | 08:55 |
| TheMuso | I tried dealing with the disabilities services, but they sucked. | 08:55 |
| Hobbsee | they usually do. | 08:55 |
| TheMuso | So I found out. | 08:55 |
| TheMuso | I ended up not using them, and dealt directly with lecturers. | 08:55 |
| TheMuso | Worked much better. | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | oh yay. it now even shows that i'm doing the advanced computing. | 08:56 |
| TheMuso | heh | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | now if i can just get it to *print*, then i'll be happy. | 08:57 |
| TheMuso | What sort of timetable do you have? | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: not such a great one as semester 1, unfortunately - 9am classes almost every day. | 08:58 |
| ajmitch | lucky you | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | HAH! | 08:59 |
| === Hobbsee got around the javascript. by viewing the source of the webpage, and mangling it that way. | ||
| imbrandon | hehe Hobbsee still got a question | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | off the phone / vnc now | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | sorry heh | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: bleh. got a three hour break each wednesday. yuck. | 09:02 |
| TheMuso | That sucks. | 09:02 |
| TheMuso | My first semester, I had a 5 hour break on Wednesdays. | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | ouchy | 09:02 |
| TheMuso | Every week I told myself I would do something ulseful in that time, but 95% of the time, I didn't. | 09:03 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 09:03 |
| === Hobbsee wasted her 3 hours each second week, most weeks in semester 1 | ||
| Hobbsee | apart from that, my timetable isnt so evil. | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | 6 hours straight will be fun though | 09:04 |
| TheMuso | Yuck. | 09:04 |
| TheMuso | What day is that? | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | oh, wait, i can make it less evil. | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: that's each monday | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | no, i can kill the 3 hour break - yay1 | 09:05 |
| TheMuso | Cool. | 09:05 |
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| Hobbsee | right...that timetable is decidedly Less Evil (tm) than it was before. | 09:08 |
| TheMuso | heh | 09:10 |
| === Yagisan sees the advantages of distance ed again for the first time "flexible timetable" | ||
| Yagisan | then reality crashes down around him | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 09:25 |
| Yagisan | as it really menas 11~12pm to 4am | 09:26 |
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| luks | hi, any revu admins around? | 09:53 |
| luks | i'm trying to recover my password, http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=lalinsky@gmail.com says "Now paste the text below, and enter EOT<return>", but there is no text below | 09:53 |
| luks | is this a known bug? | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | luks: your key is on the keyserver, right? | 09:58 |
| luks | yes | 09:58 |
| luks | at least used to be :) | 09:58 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: ping? | 09:59 |
| ajmitch | yes? | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: ^ revu stuff | 10:00 |
| ajmitch | luks: have you uploaded a package that appears on REVU? | 10:01 |
| luks | yep | 10:01 |
| ajmitch | which one? | 10:01 |
| luks | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2331 | 10:01 |
| luks | and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2252 | 10:01 |
| ajmitch | with that same gpg key? | 10:02 |
| luks | yes | 10:02 |
| ajmitch | are you currently in the ubuntu-universe-contributors group on launchpad? | 10:04 |
| luks | no | 10:04 |
| ajmitch | please join it | 10:04 |
| ajmitch | keyring is synced from that group, so revu isn't able to find your key | 10:04 |
| luks | ah | 10:05 |
| ajmitch | once you've joined, tell me, I'll approve membership for that group & sync the keyring | 10:06 |
| luks | i've already joined | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | ah right, it's open membership now | 10:08 |
| === ajmitch will tell you when it's synced | ||
| luks | okay, thanks | 10:09 |
| ajmitch | ok, try again now | 10:13 |
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| luks | works | 10:37 |
| luks | thanks again | 10:37 |
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| slomo | somebody awake? :) | 10:51 |
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| ajmitch | slomo: hi | 10:57 |
| slomo | hi ajmitch :) | 10:57 |
| slomo | i'm searching for someone who wants to improve his karma for all the forum users... by updating xgl :P i took a short look and it seems to be not much work | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | already done it | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | it just needs uploaded | 10:58 |
| slomo | ? | 10:58 |
| slomo | nice :) | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | I also tested out metacity with compositing, which didn't work so well | 10:59 |
| slomo | because of nvidia drivers? | 10:59 |
| slomo | or something else too? | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | crashed on nvidia drivers, gave artifacts on intel | 10:59 |
| slomo | ok, so get xgl/compiz uploaded and be the hero of the day? :) | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | compiz is a different matter ;) | 11:00 |
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| slomo | why? | 11:00 |
| ajmitch | should I upload upstream, or the fork that everyone uses? | 11:00 |
| slomo | who did the fork? | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | quinnstorm | 11:01 |
| slomo | take upstream ;) | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | then all the users will complain :) | 11:02 |
| slomo | what exactly did he do to poor compiz? | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | patched the hell out of it, added a bunch of new features | 11:03 |
| slomo | hm, maybe upload upstream for now and then add the useful parts of his stuff as a patchset | 11:03 |
| imbrandon | and alot of kde fixes iirc | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | I suppose I could | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | I don't use it myself | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch: or do upstream and poke quinn to patch and submit | 11:05 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | to the official repo | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:05 |
| ajmitch | of course, I'd put the version number I upload higher than the fork's | 11:05 |
| slomo | ajmitch: just do it :) it can't be worse than what we have now and finally users will stop complaining | 11:05 |
| === ajmitch checks how active libcm is | ||
| slomo | ajmitch: and for f-spot... shall i already upload a mono that has sqlite2 in recommends instead of depends? | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | I'll do that, I'd prefer to upload to debian & sync for now | 11:07 |
| slomo | i mean mono itself, not f-spot | 11:07 |
| slomo | libmono-sqlite*-cil depends on both sqlite libs | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | ah ok | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | go ahead & do that | 11:08 |
| slomo | (i.e. you don't have to depend on that yourself :P ) | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | I'll drop the explicit deps | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | since they used to be needed | 11:08 |
| slomo | yes, until the large mono split :) | 11:08 |
| slomo | i wonder why beagle still depends on old sqlite lib | 11:08 |
| slomo | tseng: ^--- ? | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | do I still need to depend on libmono0? | 11:09 |
| slomo | nope | 11:10 |
| slomo | mono-jit depends on that | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | great | 11:10 |
| slomo | all dependencies are fine now (well, libsqlite0 isn't anymore in some minutes ;) ) | 11:10 |
| slomo | ajmitch: what do you think? libsqlite0 to recommends or to suggests? | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | suggests | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | I might hold off uploading f-spot to debian for about 2 days | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | Too young, only 8 of 10 days old | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | it's 2 days off going into testing | 11:12 |
| slomo | hmm, i would really prefer it if you could upload f-spot to ubuntu first then... then we could already add it to the seed, get it moved into main by that and have it on the knot2 cds | 11:13 |
| slomo | knot2 is next week afaik | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | hm ok | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | that shouldn't be a problem | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | it's just filing a sync bug | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | & 1 extra changelog entry | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | ok, changed -4 to -3ubuntu1 :) | 11:14 |
| slomo | thanks :) | 11:14 |
| slomo | will you write the MIR and add it to the seed? :) | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | I can | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | though pitti should approve the MIR before adding | 11:15 |
| Lathiat | is there a fix for this broken text stuff? | 11:15 |
| slomo | ajmitch: the kubuntu seeds had some stuff in that wasn't in main yet too... it only speeded up the review of the MIR ;) | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: Option "RenderAccel" "0" | 11:16 |
| Lathiat | ah | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | doesn't seem to affect desktop performance much that I can see | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | slomo: naughty | 11:16 |
| slomo | ajmitch: or just upload f-spot for now and ask pitti by mail to look at it asap because you like to have this on knot2 ;) | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:19 |
| ajmitch | pitti is just online now :) | 11:19 |
| ajmitch | and of course it's being argued on the mailing list | 11:20 |
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| slomo_ | ajmitch: or just upload f-spot for now and ask pitti by mail to look at it asap because you like to have this on knot2 ;) | 11:21 |
| === ajmitch saw that :) | ||
| slomo_ | ok... i didn't know when my connection silently dropped ;) | 11:22 |
| slomo_ | mono uploaded | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | f-spot uploaded | 11:25 |
| slomo_ | cool... so world domination is near now :) | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch: did that gnome-control-center for ppc stuff works its self out that you know of ? | 11:27 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: it should have | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | kk | 11:30 |
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| slomo_ | ajmitch: hmm, really beagle uses sqlite0... do you know whether there is still a reason? or whether i can simply change that now? ;) | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | you'll have to ask tseng | 11:41 |
| slomo_ | at least this explains why beagle can't search f-spot fotos | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | users will have to remove their index | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | hm, I thought I'd patched that properly to use sqlite3 if the f-spot db was sqlite3 | 11:42 |
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| slomo_ | nope | 11:42 |
| slomo_ | it uses the same version of sqlite as beagle uses for the f-spot helper | 11:42 |
| slomo_ | ajmitch: will it remove the old index automatically? | 11:46 |
| ajmitch | I don't know | 11:48 |
| slomo_ | i'll test it | 11:49 |
| Nafallo | IIRC you changed it to use the new sqlite if there wasn't an index already and use the old one if there was... | 11:49 |
| slomo_ | Nafallo: nope, it uses whatever version configure finds | 11:50 |
| Nafallo | so auto-converting the old index then? | 11:50 |
| slomo_ | don't think so... it will probably drop the old index and create a new one | 11:50 |
| Nafallo | ouch. | 11:51 |
| slomo_ | it's only an index ;) not a database that can't be easily automatically created like in f-spot | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | which is why I've got to get that sqlite2->3 convertor working properly | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | which is easier said than done, since it doesn't like having both in a single process, it seems | 11:55 |
| slomo_ | why btw? the symbols are prefixed with the sqlite version | 11:55 |
| === ajmitch probably just has top open sqlite 2, read in all data, close, reopen as sqlite3 & write | ||
| ajmitch | I know, but it stops reading very quickly if I try to read from the old db & write to the new in a loop :) | 11:56 |
| slomo_ | so try the read all && write all approach :) | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | will do, I just need time to sit & do it :) | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | not too hard, since you can get the aql to create the tables out of the existing table | 12:00 |
| Nafallo | woha! what happened to the deskbar-applet? :-P | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | s/aql/sql/ | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: it got an upgrade? | 12:01 |
| Nafallo | seems like it. the textfield has an orange border now :-) | 12:01 |
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| slomo_ | ajmitch: Warn: Likely sqlite database version mismatch trying to read from /home/slomo/.beagle/TextCache/TextCache.db. Purging. | 12:10 |
| slomo_ | ajmitch: so it only drops the index ;) | 12:10 |
| ajmitch | oh good | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | at least it doesn't bail out & die straight away | 12:11 |
| Lathiat | is gnome-panel eating cpu & the applications menu flickering constantly a known probleM? | 12:11 |
| slomo_ | ajmitch: i guess i'll upload this later after tseng showed up :) i've fixed the bashism bugs too now | 12:12 |
| slomo_ | Lathiat: yes | 12:12 |
| Lathiat | ok | 12:12 |
| slomo_ | Lathiat: bug 52405 | 12:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 52405 in gnome-panel "gnome-panel eats 50% cpu for half an hour and flickers" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52405 | 12:12 |
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| slomo_ | ajmitch: seems to be a bit faster too | 12:13 |
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| Lathiat | cheers | 12:14 |
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| Toadstool | hey everybody | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | hi Toadstool | 12:19 |
| Toadstool | hi Hobbsee | 12:19 |
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| Amaranth | what helper installs dbus conf files? | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | Amaranth: got a path to one of the conf files? | 01:46 |
| Amaranth | Hobbsee: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | Amaranth: looked for that file path on packages.ubuntu.com? | 01:47 |
| Amaranth | it goes in your package as debian/<package>.dbus-conf | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | Amaranth: in the second section, about the files/directories? | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | oh, which helper, not which package...dont mind me | 01:47 |
| Amaranth | Hobbsee: I'm trying to figure out which debhelper script installs these files | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 01:48 |
| Amaranth | *smack* | 01:48 |
| === Amaranth runs | ||
| Hobbsee | hmm? | 01:48 |
| Amaranth | I dunno, it's 7am and I haven't gone to bed yet. | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 01:49 |
| Amaranth | Yeah. :P | 01:50 |
| Amaranth | I can't get my daemon and client to speak dbus to each other. | 01:50 |
| Amaranth | meh, it can wait until afternoon :P | 01:55 |
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| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: ping? | 02:40 |
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| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, hello | 02:48 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: hi :) do you have clearlooks window manager decorations in xfce? | 02:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, yes | 02:48 |
| slomo_ | you might want to get the ones from http://www.stellingwerff.com/?p=16 | 02:49 |
| slomo_ | they fit much better with the current clearlooks gtk2 engine | 02:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, thanks, I'll test this right now :) | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | how do i make a file executable in debian/rules with debhelper? pastebin of rules file is at http://rafb.net/paste/results/VplRFC53.html | 02:51 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: np :) gnome uses them already with the latest gnome-themes upload | 02:51 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: and if you need a sponsor for main for this (and janimo isn't there) feel free to ping me | 02:52 |
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| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, thanks again ;) | 02:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, with chmod? | 02:53 |
| Gloubiboulga | it'll work | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: i'd used the command on the second line to make it work for amarok, which uses cdbs. unfortunately, you cant chmod +x a file in the source, and then expect it to be copied over as an exectable | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: and the idiot question of where do i actually put the command, of course | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | i wonder if it's being stripped later with dh_strip | 02:56 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, line 75,5 | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: right, and i got the syntax right, as it installs in chmod a+x /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh? | 02:57 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, yep | 02:58 |
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| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: yay! | 02:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | :) | 02:59 |
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| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: still didnt work. | 03:00 |
| Gloubiboulga | :( | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: i'm assuming it is chmod a+x, as it is in amarok | 03:00 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if you have to do it as a post-inst or something annoying. | ||
| Gloubiboulga | well, the line 65 should change the permissions already | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: oh, the 755 means executable? | 03:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | yes | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm. | 03:05 |
| ivoks | anyone familiar with python? :) | 03:08 |
| slomo_ | ivoks: depends on what you want to know ;) | 03:09 |
| ivoks | slomo_: i have a string, that looks like tuple | 03:09 |
| ivoks | slomo_: i just want to convert it to tuple | 03:09 |
| slomo_ | no idea then ;) | 03:09 |
| ivoks | :) | 03:09 |
| slomo_ | ivoks: "".join(x) maybe? | 03:10 |
| slomo_ | if x = ('a', 'b', 'c') this does what you want | 03:10 |
| luks | that converts a tuple to string :) | 03:10 |
| ivoks | :) | 03:11 |
| ivoks | :* | 03:11 |
| luks | "a, b, c".split(", ") | 03:11 |
| luks | ? | 03:11 |
| slomo_ | that makes an list | 03:11 |
| ivoks | i have | 03:12 |
| luks | tuple("a, b, c".split(", ")) | 03:12 |
| ivoks | result=('keyword', 'not-attempted') | 03:12 |
| ivoks | and this is a string | 03:12 |
| ivoks | "".join(result) results in string too :/ | 03:13 |
| luks | you mean you have "result=('keyword', 'not-attempted')" as a string? | 03:14 |
| luks | if yes, then simply exec it | 03:14 |
| ivoks | no ('keyword', 'not-attempted') is a string | 03:14 |
| ivoks | result is variable | 03:14 |
| ivoks | eh :) | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: GOT IT!!!! :D | 03:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, YAY! :) | 03:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, what is the solution? | 03:25 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: what do you think about the theme? do you have an screenshot? i have no idea how it looks on xfce :) | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: dh_fixperms automatically strips all executable permissions off anything in /usr/docs - so you have to exclude that file. it's in man dh_fixperms | 03:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, I'm fighting to make it work... | 03:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, damn, it's something I have to remember of :) | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: :) | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: i'd already checked dh_strip, it's listed in debian maintainers guide. you've got uploads to main, dont you? | 03:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, nop | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: didnt you go for them in the last meeting? | 03:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, no, I'll go for core-dev at next TB | 03:28 |
| zul_ | heh heh... | 03:29 |
| zul_ | good luck | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: nice :) | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | as for zul_... | 03:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, sorry, you'll have to find someone else to sponsor your upload ;p | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: yeah, that's harder than it used to be | 03:29 |
| zul_ | Hobbsee: why dont you go for core-dev at the next tb meeting? | 03:30 |
| Gloubiboulga | zul_, you'regoing for core-dev too? you're not already? | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | zul_: havent done enough? | 03:30 |
| zul_ | ah | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | zul_: well, i dont think i've done enough. but then you can see how long it took me to go for motu. | 03:30 |
| zul_ | it could make your stop pestering people ;) | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | zul_: well, yeah, exactly. unfortunatly, the core-dev is smaller, so i have to pester the same people more often | 03:32 |
| zul_ | true | 03:32 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: for gnome it was just "cp foo bar" ;) | 03:32 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, it should be the same for Xfce... | 03:32 |
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| tuxmaniac | guys | 03:45 |
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| tuxmaniac | Is launchpad and malone gonna be open sourced in the near future ? | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | hi tuxmaniac | 03:46 |
| tuxmaniac | Hobbsee> hi howdy you | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmaniac: good, fixing bugs | 03:46 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:47 |
| tuxmaniac | Is launchpad and malone gonna be open sourced in the near future ? | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 03:47 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: Not that I know of | 03:47 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian> so malone will still continue to store things in its own format? | 03:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, http://tiber.tauware.de/~gauvain/Screenshot.png | 03:48 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: looks good... only that the gnome version has a stronger and not so dark blue... you don't use the latest gtk2-engines, do you? | 03:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, the one in the edgy repos | 03:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | hum, wait | 03:51 |
| slomo_ | 2.7.6 is what you want | 03:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's 2.7.4 | 03:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | 2.7.6 is in the gtk2-engines package now, right? | 03:52 |
| slomo_ | then update please :) | 03:52 |
| slomo_ | yes | 03:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | hum, a little mcs bug... some Widgets have not been refreshed | 03:54 |
| slomo_ | hm, restart your session ;) but you have a lighter, stronger blue too now? | 03:55 |
| Gloubiboulga | yep | 03:55 |
| Gloubiboulga | brb | 03:55 |
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| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, you can refresh the screenshot :) | 03:58 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: right... that's how it should look like :) | 03:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's nice :) | 03:59 |
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| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: metacity themes seem to have hardcoded colors... your xfce theme seems to take the colors from the gtk theme, right? | 04:00 |
| slomo_ | in that case it's not that important to update the theme... but nice nonetheless :) | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: FYI: you use dh_fixperms --except /path/to/file/file | 04:00 |
| bddebian | slomo_: I got transcode working and uploaded but I'm not sure why it's dep-wait | 04:01 |
| slomo_ | bddebian: that's in the build log | 04:01 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, I have to admit that I don't really know... :) | 04:01 |
| bddebian | slomo_: I know but what I am saying is that It build locally :-) | 04:01 |
| Gloubiboulga | I haven't touched all the artwork stuff yet | 04:01 |
| slomo_ | bddebian: liba52-0.7.4-dev | liba52-dev would be the correct way | 04:02 |
| slomo_ | bddebian: the buildds sometimes have problems with virtual packages it seems | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Oh | 04:02 |
| slomo_ | just reupload with that small change :) | 04:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, thanks :) | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: :) | 04:04 |
| bddebian | slomo_: OK | 04:05 |
| slomo_ | bddebian: you missed "* moved libxvidcore4 to Recommends rather than depends." | 04:05 |
| slomo_ | other than that it seems to be fine :) good work :) | 04:06 |
| bddebian | Doh, I suck :-( | 04:06 |
| slomo_ | no, you rock :) | 04:06 |
| bddebian | Bah :-) | 04:09 |
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| Gloubiboulga | archive.ubuntu.com is slow today... might be because today's sunday | 04:24 |
| Riddell | how do I enable universe in my pbuilder? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: got a pbuilderrc? | 04:30 |
| Riddell | yep | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: usually in /etc/pbuilderrc? | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Riddell: Edit pbuilderrc | 04:30 |
| slomo_ | Riddell: OTHERMIRROR="deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse restricted" | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | there | 04:30 |
| Riddell | and then I need to re-create it? | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Nope just pbuilder update | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: sudo pbuilder-update --override-config | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | dotn forget the overriding of the config | 04:32 |
| bddebian | Oh aye | 04:34 |
| Riddell | that seems to have done it | 04:34 |
| Riddell | we should change the default pbuilderrc to have that in it (commented out) | 04:35 |
| bddebian | Talk to the "powers that be" ;-) | 04:35 |
| === bddebian is just a lsave | ||
| bddebian | Err slave | 04:35 |
| === Hobbsee cracks her whip at bddebian. get to it. | ||
| bddebian | yes massa | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: massa? | 04:36 |
| bddebian | massa == master | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: ahhh... | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | i suppose that's still better than being called mistress :) | 04:37 |
| zul | i choosed to hold my tongue | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | zul: s/choosed/chose :) | 04:38 |
| zul | meh.. | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | zul: where are you from, btw? | 04:38 |
| zul | in canada or as some people call it canuckistan | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | zul: ahhh...right | 04:39 |
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| luks | edb | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 04:47 |
| bddebian | slomo_: libxvidcore4 must be getting picked up by shlib depends. If I make it a recommends does that override it? | 04:53 |
| slomo_ | bddebian: nope... then don't change it | 04:53 |
| bddebian | OK | 04:53 |
| bddebian | Uploaded | 04:54 |
| bddebian | OK, shower time, bbl | 04:54 |
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| bddebian | slomo_: If/when transcode succeeds, I will throw up gtranscode | 05:51 |
| slomo_ | bddebian: perfect :) | 05:52 |
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| siretart | slomo_: I'm just looking at transcode, but I'm failing at the libavcodec build-dep | 06:31 |
| siretart | slomo_: what else did you say needs a newer ffmpeg as well? | 06:31 |
| siretart | slomo_: and did you manage to reach sam? | 06:31 |
| slomo_ | siretart: bddebian already did it... and works fine with our libavcodec it seems | 06:32 |
| slomo_ | no he didn't answer yet :( | 06:32 |
| slomo_ | and mplayer needs a newer ffmpeg... it likes to segfault with our current version | 06:32 |
| siretart | bddebian: my hero! :) | 06:32 |
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| bddebian | :-) | 06:34 |
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| bddebian | w00t transcode built on i386, PPC, and amd64 | 06:47 |
| hub | hi | 06:48 |
| bddebian | Hello hub | 06:48 |
| hub | I need and advocating for hugin http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2808 | 06:48 |
| hub | so I can upload it | 06:48 |
| hub | this time the license of vigra should be OK | 06:48 |
| bddebian | OK, swim time again, later folks | 06:54 |
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| Spec | I can't 'pbuilder create' my pbuilder environment :-/, it keeps stalling after getting 2-5 packages :-/ | 07:09 |
| slomo_ | Riddell: what is "qt4-x11-kdecopy"? a copy of qt4-x11? ;) | 07:11 |
| Riddell | yes | 07:12 |
| Riddell | specifically it's the copy from kde's SVN | 07:12 |
| slomo_ | hmm... what's the difference between the two? | 07:13 |
| Riddell | qt4-x11 is qt 4.1, qt4-x11-kdecopy is qt 4.2 preview plus some patches | 07:13 |
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| slomo_ | ok, sounds sane then :) this is needed for kde4? i guess kde4 will be the next kde version which i'll test :) | 07:14 |
| Riddell | slomo_: yes, it's what kde 4 needs, so the package is intended for people building kde 4 | 07:18 |
| Riddell | any volunteers to package kdelibs trunk welcome :) | 07:18 |
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| Linuturk | where would I begin to build and contribute a package installer of www.aptana.com ? | 07:30 |
| Linuturk | i'd like to start contributing to ubuntu with this good program, but I don't know where to start | 07:34 |
| Gloubiboulga | Linuturk, you can start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 07:42 |
| Linuturk | yes, i've been reading that | 07:43 |
| Linuturk | thanks | 07:43 |
| Linuturk | i'm going to school | 07:43 |
| Gloubiboulga | nice :) | 07:43 |
| Linuturk | #ubuntu-motu-school that is | 07:43 |
| Gloubiboulga | did you look at the packaging guide to start with aptana? | 07:44 |
| Linuturk | packaging guide? | 07:45 |
| Spec | ubotu! ubugtu! whaa | 07:45 |
| Gloubiboulga | http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html | 07:45 |
| Linuturk | thanks | 07:47 |
| Linuturk | that helps | 07:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | cool :) | 07:47 |
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| bddebian | re | 08:30 |
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| Gloubiboulga | re bddebian | 08:33 |
| bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 08:33 |
| === Gloubiboulga is fighting with pyxfce | ||
| Gloubiboulga | there's absolutely no documentation | 08:36 |
| bddebian | So what else is new? :) | 08:38 |
| Gloubiboulga | in pyxfce? everything is new :) | 08:41 |
| bddebian | No, I meant no documentation :) | 08:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | bddebian, I must be tired, I don't understand :s | 08:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | (heh, I usually speak french ;) ) | 08:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | anaway, I'm off, see you later | 08:50 |
| bddebian | I am saying that it is common that there is no documentation :-) | 08:50 |
| === bddebian gives the archive admins plenty more work... | ||
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| Ademan | is there a compiz development channel? | 09:00 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: ping | 09:20 |
| Riddell | doing UWN this week? | 09:20 |
| Riddell | Ademan: yes | 09:23 |
| Riddell | although I can't remember what it's called | 09:23 |
| Riddell | probably something obvious | 09:24 |
| Ademan | lol | 09:24 |
| Ademan | its not compiz though | 09:24 |
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| toma | qquestion reguarding pbuilder: it requires a dsc to build, but what if i changed the changelog. Then there is no valid dsc. | 09:34 |
| bddebian | Toma: you need to rebuild the package with debuild or dpkg-buildpackage to generate the new .dsc | 09:34 |
| toma | bddebian: just an ordary dpkg-buildpackage is enough to create it? | 09:37 |
| bddebian | Toma: dpkg-buildpackage -S if you want it to sign the changes | 09:37 |
| bddebian | add -sa if you need to include the source | 09:37 |
| toma | *sigh* | 09:38 |
| toma | i want to use the pbuilder environments i created | 09:39 |
| bddebian | ? | 09:39 |
| bddebian | You can try pdebuild too but I don't know much about it | 09:39 |
| toma | i can not get pdebuild to use a dapper or breeze tgz | 09:40 |
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| toma | ok dpkg -b creates the dsc and diff.gz | 09:48 |
| toma | ok | 09:48 |
| bddebian | Shit, someone screwed up the versioning for serpento | 09:49 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 10:11 |
| Sp4rKy | i need some help with audacious | 10:12 |
| Sp4rKy | E: libaudacious: ldconfig-symlink-referencing-wrong-file usr/lib/libaudacious.so -> /tmp/buildd/audacious-1.0.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libaudacious.so.2.0.0 instead of libaudacious.so.2.0.0 | 10:13 |
| Sp4rKy | what can i do for this error ? | 10:13 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi mr_pouit :) | 10:16 |
| mr_pouit | hi Sp4rKy ^^ | 10:16 |
| Sp4rKy | i think MOTUs are sleeping :/ | 10:16 |
| mr_pouit | UTC-6 i think, and we are on UTC+2, so ^^... | 10:17 |
| mr_pouit | ((no that's stupid ^^) | 10:17 |
| Sp4rKy | :D | 10:18 |
| slomo_ | Sp4rKy: run lintian with -i... it will explain this better to you | 10:19 |
| Sp4rKy | slomo_, i've done it , and look at the section of debian policy | 10:19 |
| slomo_ | Sp4rKy: ok, i assume the link is to the full path of the library instead of using a relative path | 10:21 |
| slomo_ | which then obviously breaks after installing the because | 10:21 |
| slomo_ | s/the because// | 10:21 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 10:21 |
| Sp4rKy | and so ... | 10:21 |
| Sp4rKy | what's wrong | 10:21 |
| slomo_ | the build system of the package | 10:21 |
| Sp4rKy | because this link seems done with dh_link | 10:21 |
| slomo_ | oh | 10:21 |
| slomo_ | are you sure? then dh_link was used wrong ;) | 10:22 |
| slomo_ | where is this package? | 10:22 |
| Sp4rKy | audacious | 10:22 |
| Sp4rKy | i'll dput it now | 10:22 |
| mr_pouit | Sp4rKy: why is there another Makefile in the package ? | 10:26 |
| slomo_ | Sp4rKy: can you give me the url? | 10:26 |
| mr_pouit | because in this makefile is made another call to ldconfig... | 10:26 |
| Sp4rKy | mr_pouit, there is 2 Makefile in 2 rep | 10:27 |
| Sp4rKy | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2609 | 10:27 |
| slomo_ | Sp4rKy: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/audacious-0607051625/audacious-1.0.0/libaudacious/Makefile.in | 10:30 |
| slomo_ | the post-hook is wrong | 10:30 |
| slomo_ | install-posthook: | 10:30 |
| slomo_ | this creates the ugly links | 10:30 |
| Sp4rKy | so i need make a patch | 10:33 |
| slomo_ | yes | 10:34 |
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| Sp4rKy | k | 10:35 |
| Sp4rKy | so i must delete the posthook entry ? | 10:36 |
| slomo_ | no... patch it and make it right | 10:38 |
| slomo_ | i.e. make relative links instead of absolute ones | 10:38 |
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| Sp4rKy | but what's worng in this : | 10:44 |
| Sp4rKy | @if test `whoami` = 'root' && test -z "$(DESTDIR)"; then \ | 10:44 |
| Sp4rKy | echo "[running ldconfig to update system library cache] "; \ | 10:44 |
| Sp4rKy | /sbin/ldconfig; \ | 10:44 |
| Sp4rKy | echo "[system library cache updated] "; \ | 10:44 |
| Sp4rKy | fi | 10:44 |
| slomo_ | nothing... but the install-posthook target in libaudacious/Makefile.in creates | 10:48 |
| slomo_ | the links wrong | 10:48 |
| Sp4rKy | ok ! | 10:49 |
| ^ohoel | where can I find buildlogs again? | 10:53 |
| slomo_ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/libgnomeui/2.15.90-0ubuntu2 | 10:54 |
| slomo_ | i.e. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/$package/$version | 10:54 |
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| slomo_ | leave out the version and you can select one | 10:54 |
| ^ohoel | ah, thanks slomo :) | 10:55 |
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| crimsun | Sp4rKy: be aware of http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200607-13.xml | 11:08 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, so i only need use the last version ? | 11:09 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: apparently, but I don't follow audacious development so I'm not the best person to ask. | 11:09 |
| Sp4rKy | ok | 11:10 |
| Sp4rKy | thx | 11:10 |
| crimsun | np | 11:10 |
| bmonty | we can drop the "c2" in the end of C++ packages for an unstable merge to edgy, right? | 11:40 |
| slomo_ | no | 11:41 |
| doko | bmonty, slomo_ : if the soname in unstable did change, yes, if not: no | 11:42 |
| bmonty | soname didn't change | 11:42 |
| slomo_ | doko: right, i didn't think about that case | 11:42 |
| bmonty | thanks doko | 11:42 |
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