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[01:19] <mhz> hi all
[01:19] <Burgundavia> hey mhz
[01:20] <mhz> I have been trying very hard to print cd faces/labels for edubuntu demos, BUT no mattery how exact my cd label design is in terms of 'measurements' when I print it, it always prints in recuded size :(
[01:20] <mhz> hey Burgundavia 
[01:21] <Burgundavia> which program are you using?
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[01:32] <HedgeMage> dangit, missed pygi
[01:45] <mhz> Burgundavia: i make SCGs
[01:45] <mhz> SVGs
[01:45] <Burgundavia> mhz: have you tried glabels?
[01:45] <mhz> but I do not print from it
[01:46] <mhz> Burgundavia: yup, but honestly...glabels is too simple, lacking of many functions
[01:46] <mhz> (AFAIK)
[01:46] <mhz> so, I am forced to use Inkscape to design
[01:46] <mhz> and if i wanted to use glabels
[01:46] <mhz> I have to import it as Image...and hence lose quality
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[04:16] <lecaros> have you installed a compaq ij600 printer? (usb, detected as Lexmark Inkjet 4103)
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[06:27] <Burgundavia> 'ello Amaranth
[06:28] <Amaranth> hi?
[06:29] <Burgundavia> just saying hi
[06:30] <Amaranth> ah :)
[06:30] <pygi> :)
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[08:56] <jsgotangco> does anyone know if ESA is in a printable format with a nice layout (pdf, odt, etc.)?
[09:00] <RichEd> greetz to all this miserable monday
[09:00] <RichEd> ( weather is miserable, not me :)
[09:02] <jsgotangco> yes its miserable weather here too
[09:04] <KatteKrab> and here too :)
[09:05] <jsgotangco> RichEd: do you have something in your TODO regarding flyers/advocacy paraphernalia for Edubuntu?
[09:06] <RichEd> not that I can specifically recall ? give me some more background ?
[09:06] <jsgotangco> well we have this thing called Edubuntu School Advocacy
[09:06] <jsgotangco> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy
[09:07] <RichEd> yes ... I'm away of the link & background to that etc. i meant backgound to the ToDo ?
[09:07] <jsgotangco> well i was just wondering if you have something in the works for such
[09:08] <jsgotangco> i only assumed TODO :)
[09:09] <RichEd> jsgotangco: this will be a major part of my discussions with mark & jane wed/thu :)
[09:10] <jsgotangco> good luck
[09:10] <RichEd> as in "how do we create a focus education approach that will take us forward for the next 12 months"
[09:10] <RichEd> partners, supporters, users
[09:11] <jsgotangco> heh we have 3 years for dapper desktop should be manageable
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[09:12] <RichEd> sorry please explain that last comment ? 3 years ?
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[09:12] <jsgotangco> Dapper is supported for 3 years on the desktop
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[09:13] <KatteKrab> RichEd: I sent you an email regarding the Australian Computers in Education Conference - did you get it?
[09:13] <jsgotangco> tags in launchpad..interesting
[09:14] <RichEd> KatteKrab: I am in my inbox now ... will let you know in a few mins :)
[09:14] <KatteKrab> :)
[09:16] <RichEd> jsgotangco: support goes a lot broader than the desktop & s/w ... my head is trying to wrap around supporting s/w developers (OS and Apps), h/w, govts, content providers ... we need them all on our side to succeed
[09:16] <jsgotangco> sure i guess that's your job ;) ours is to make the system work heh
[09:16] <RichEd> and good luck to all of us ;)
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[09:17] <RichEd> question[highvoltage]  = answer NOT
[09:18] <highvoltage> :)
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[09:25] <jsgotangco> man i love how k3b manages to give a laugh on the staff here when it finishes burning a cd
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[09:35] <RichEd> KatteKrab: give me a clue to the subject or sender address ? gotta lot to wad through this end
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[09:42] <cbx33> g---hoooood---morning
[09:43] <highvoltage> good mornign cbx33 
[09:43] <highvoltage> glad to see you in a good mood again :)
[09:43] <cbx33> I'm on holiday today
[09:44] <cbx33> and I'v had my hair re-styled
[09:44] <cbx33> that alwyas puts me in a good mood
[09:45] <KatteKrab> RichEd - sorry was in another window - subject line is "Edubuntu and Australian Computers in Education Conference"
[09:45] <RichEd> morning cbx33 ... tx for the good mail
[09:45] <RichEd> KatteKrab: sent to me or the list ?
[09:45] <cbx33> RichEd, np, is it helpful?
[09:45] <RichEd> cbx33: most
[09:46] <KatteKrab> sent to you.
[09:46] <KatteKrab> @canonical
[09:46] <KatteKrab> on Friday
[09:46] <KatteKrab> should I resend?
[09:47] <RichEd> KatteKrab:  - yep I have it ... nope don't resend
[09:47] <KatteKrab> :) 
[09:48] <RichEd> KatteKrab: ... quick responsese 1) i am discussing conferences in general with JaneS & Mark wed / thu this week (cbx33 is part of this with BETT requests)
[09:48] <KatteKrab> great. :)
[09:48] <RichEd> so will add yours as "in how can & do we give more support"
[09:49] <RichEd> 2) CD's - will speak to Shippit people ... will CC you in
[09:49] <KatteKrab> thanks, that would be helpful. 
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[09:49] <cbx33> :p
[09:49] <KatteKrab> please let me know if you need me to source more info for you...
[09:50] <cbx33> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds
[09:50] <cbx33> please guys some feedback on the latter ones
[09:50] <RichEd> 3) cooperation ... will respond via email need to check out your links :) all4now
[09:50] <cbx33> I'm pretty pleased with them
[09:50] <KatteKrab> RichEd: cheers :) 
[09:51] <cbx33> highvoltage, like the new hair? https://launchpad.net/people/petesavage :p
[09:51] <cbx33> can't see it too clearly there
[09:51] <cbx33> thinking if I get to go to the sumit next time I may have red streaks put in.....just for a giggle :p
[09:51] <highvoltage> cbx33: it's nice
[09:52] <cbx33> heheh
[09:52] <cbx33> highvoltage, have you heard any of the new sounds yet?
[09:52] <highvoltage> nope
[09:53] <cbx33> check em out
[09:53] <cbx33> :p
[09:53] <cbx33> I really need feedback
[09:53] <jsgotangco> it would have been better if you dyed it pink or silver
[09:53] <cbx33> jsgotangco, heheh
[09:53] <cbx33> totally pink?
[09:54] <highvoltage> pink is so 1990's
[09:54] <jsgotangco> lol did you try it before?
[09:54] <jsgotangco> im grabbing the opera browser for my DS later
[09:54] <highvoltage> no, my hair has been eminem white twice, pitch black, green and blue before.
=== cbx33 thinks either blue or bright red for next summit if I get to go
[09:55] <cbx33> this is the first time I dyed my whole head
=== jsgotangco likes his hair long and black
[09:55] <highvoltage> in south africa, some of the old ladies like to colour their hair bright red, which has made it uncool here.
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[09:56] <cbx33> aha
[09:56] <highvoltage> although i will say this before i go:
[09:56] <cbx33> sorry highvoltage 
[09:56] <highvoltage> i want to have dreadlocks one day :)
[09:56] <cbx33> highvoltage, ME TOO !
[09:56] <jsgotangco> i dont think it'll fit you
[09:56] <cbx33> not yet
[09:56] <highvoltage> cbx33: yeah, that's the attitude!
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[03:36] <jsgotangco> good evening
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[03:45] <bddebian> Hello
[03:45] <jsgotangco> hi
[03:46] <bddebian> Heya jsgotangco
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[04:16] <pygi_> morning jsgotangco 
[04:19] <jsgotangco> hey
[04:19] <pygi_> how is you?
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[04:23] <jsgotangco> pretty good i just bought a new game for my pocket console heh
[04:23] <jsgotangco> testing out wifi on it now
[04:23] <pygi> jsgotangco, you and your games :P
[04:23] <pygi> I should sue those "Super Mario" people !
[04:23] <pygi> they stole my name !
[04:23] <jsgotangco> haha
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[04:24] <jsgotangco> ever since i discovered playing online on a pocket console is possible, i haven't been playing much on the pc
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[07:00] <HedgeMage> hi Yagisan :D
[07:11] <pygi> HedgeMage, you have jabber
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[07:13] <LaserJock> Burgwork: a planet.edubuntu.org sounds kinda cool
[07:13] <HedgeMage> :)
[07:13] <HedgeMage> That would be cool, and very easy to just flip on since the site is already drupal based.
[07:14] <LaserJock> it would be nice to get teachers and school admins especially
[07:14] <HedgeMage> My mom's a teacher, and I've finally gotten her to start blogging :)
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[07:15] <pygi> bye all
[07:16] <HedgeMage> hi mhz 
[07:16] <HedgeMage> seeya, pygi 
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[07:17] <mhz> hi there
[07:17] <mhz> pygi: dont leave, please
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[07:54] <LaserJock> hi cbx33 
[07:54] <cbx33> hey LaserJock 
=== cbx33 just got a new phone
[07:54] <cbx33> :D
[07:55] <LaserJock> cbx33: is gisomount in the archives yet?
[07:55] <cbx33> not as of this morning
[07:55] <cbx33> :(
[07:56] <LaserJock> must be still stuck in NEW
[07:56] <cbx33> yup
[07:56] <cbx33> I'm using my last ubuntu sound as my message received tone my new hpone
[07:56] <cbx33> sounds great!
[07:56] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=iso
[07:56] <cbx33> LaserJock, I'm just ignoring it now
[07:56] <ogra> yup, its in new
[07:57] <cbx33> I'll just check every week or so
[07:57] <cbx33> till it gets there
[07:57] <highvoltage> cbx33: new hair, new phone... are you going through a young-life crisis?
[07:58] <cbx33> highvoltage, could be
[07:58] <cbx33> I have a new lease of life
[07:58] <cbx33> or so I think
[07:58] <Yagisan> highvoltage, nah. It must be a chick
[07:58] <highvoltage> excellent
[07:58] <highvoltage> Yagisan: hopefully not, he's married ;)
[07:58] <cbx33> Yagisan, how did you know that lisa talked me into getting a new phone?
[07:58] <highvoltage> cbx33: which phone?
[07:58] <cbx33> sony w810i
[07:59] <Yagisan> highvoltage, I'm married too. when my wife says haircut, the correct response is to get a haircut
[07:59] <cbx33> Yagisan,  i hear ya
[07:59] <Yagisan> cbx33, I read 3 lines above my post
[07:59] <cbx33> heheh
[08:00] <LaserJock> Yagisan: hehe, my wife just cuts it :-)
=== highvoltage want s something in the line of 
[08:00] <highvoltage> http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/communications/0,39044192,39378580,00.htm
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=== cbx33 's sister in law cuts his
[08:01] <LaserJock> highvoltage: I'm really wanting one of these: http://www.martifacts.com/newsletter/062003/TELEGRAPH%20KEY.jpg
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[08:02] <cbx33> LaserJock, ahhh yes
[08:02] <cbx33> the old WAT protocol
[08:02] <cbx33> "Waggle and Tug"
[08:03] <highvoltage> LaserJock: problem with those are, they're quite heavy on battery life ;)
[08:03] <cbx33> heheh
[08:03] <LaserJock> not if you crank while you talk ;-)
[08:03] <cbx33> or peddle
[08:03] <cbx33> get peddling LaserJock 
[08:03] <highvoltage> bill gates would'nt like that
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[08:04] <LaserJock> nah, I'll hook it up to the power supply on the Nd:YAG laser
[08:04] <cbx33> apparently bill gates doesn;t care any more :p
[08:04] <LaserJock> 50,000 Volts :-)
[08:04] <cbx33> LaserJock, with a current of?
[08:04] <LaserJock> hmm,  I'm not sure
[08:05] <cbx33> what's the wattage?
[08:05] <LaserJock> heck if I know, I just want what comes out of it ;-)
[08:05] <cbx33> LaserJock, could be the power of an LED for all we know :p
[08:05] <LaserJock> :(
[08:05] <cbx33> hehehhe
[08:05] <LaserJock> I've got a few of those too
[08:05] <cbx33> sorry bud
[08:06] <LaserJock> this laser output something like a gigawatt in the 5 ns it's on
[08:06] <cbx33> don;t go in the room blinking is my advice
[08:06] <cbx33> could get ya gibets blown away
[08:06] <cbx33> giblets
[08:10] <cbx33> ping ogra 
[08:10] <ogra> pong
[08:11] <cbx33> ogra, I've tried to find out who deals with the sounds for ubuntu in general
[08:11] <cbx33> and did you check out the latest ones
[08:11] <cbx33> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds
[08:13] <ogra> yep
[08:13] <cbx33> like em?
[08:13] <cbx33> number 8 makes a cool mobile phone message tone :p
[08:14] <LaserJock> cbx33: did you take a look at fridge today?
[08:14] <ogra> well, i like them all, but i'm still missing some life :)
[08:14] <cbx33> no?
[08:14] <cbx33> ogra, the life can be added later
[08:14] <cbx33> besides I'm also trying to enter these for ubuntu
[08:14] <cbx33> in general
[08:15] <cbx33> might be cool to have the same theme with a slight modification for ubuntu distros...like edu, xub etc
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[08:16] <cbx33> ahhh thanks LaserJock 
=== highvoltage supply?
[08:16] <LaserJock> dude, notice the space, it was intentional ;-)
[08:17] <highvoltage> :)
[08:18] <LaserJock> I don't have a highvoltage supply
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[08:18] <LaserJock> are you done moving?
[08:18] <ogra> yep
[08:18] <highvoltage> LaserJock: not? :(
[08:18] <ogra> fsvo done :)
[08:18] <LaserJock> heh
[08:19] <ajmitch> ogra: you mean you'll be unpacking boxes a year from now :)
[08:19] <ogra> not a year, but surely some months :)
[08:19] <LaserJock> highvoltage: well, I do have a supply of highvoltage pics from Paris, and a perhaps a funny video at the eifel tower ;-)
[08:19] <highvoltage> eek! i thought we were going to forget about taht!
[08:20] <LaserJock> heck no
[08:20] <LaserJock> I've got to figure out how to edit it just right 
[08:20] <cbx33> ping RichEd 
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[08:44] <pygi> mhz_food: what do you mean by: "dont leave, please"?
[08:50] <lucasvo> pygi: last time mhz told you he loves you, you left
[08:50] <lucasvo> :)
[08:57] <bddebian> hehe
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[09:04] <mhz> re
[09:04] <mhz> pygi: yeah, lucasvo's right
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[09:42] <pygi> lucasvo, mhz , lol, when?
[09:43] <lucasvo> I don't remember
[09:43] <lucasvo> today
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[09:59] <JoergD> hello, has anybody experience with the option-129 setting in edubuntu?
[10:01] <cbx33> option-129?
[10:03] <JoergD> well, i mean building up a network with a second dhcp server (e.g. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DHCP#Multiple_DHCP_servers_on_the_sam )
[10:04] <JoergD> The option-129 should be used to tell the client on the 2nd DHCP-Request to ask for a specific DHCP-Server Port (e.g. 1067) - unfortunately it does not work with my edubuntu installation
[10:06] <cbx33> JoergD, try this
[10:07] <cbx33> are you runnign a windows dhcp server?
[10:10] <JoergD> No, I want to set up some thinclients in our school. There we already have a dhcp server running (debian), but it has to be untouched.
[10:11] <cbx33> ah
[10:11] <cbx33> so you can't setup some reservations on that dhcp server?
[10:15] <pygi> cbx33, please try to do : "svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org --username anonymous"
[10:15] <cbx33> o
[10:15] <cbx33> hang on
[10:16] <JoergD> no, not that easy. the problem is, that the clients only should boot into edubuntu if there is the bootdisk in the floppy drive. Otherwise, the existing os (which is installed on hdd) should be booted.
[10:16] <cbx33> password?
[10:17] <cbx33> ok
[10:17] <cbx33> well read this
[10:17] <cbx33> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPMultiboot?highlight=%28ltsp%29
[10:17] <cbx33> I wrote that doc for that exact purpose
[10:17] <cbx33> we modify our "windows" dhcp server to use that boot pxe
[10:17] <pygi> cbx33, should be no password?
[10:17] <cbx33> pygi, ok
[10:18] <cbx33> :D
[10:18] <cbx33> works pygi 
[10:18] <cbx33> revision !
[10:18] <cbx33> 1
[10:18] <pygi> cbx33, good, good :)
[10:26] <lucasvo> pygi: what project are you working on?
[10:28] <pygi> lucasvo, libburn
[10:28] <pygi> having problems with subversion configuration
[10:28] <JoergD> well, i forgot to mention that the installed system asks the dhcp-server via PXE for a ip-address, too. It's a confusing configuration in our schoolroom, because the clients boot over the network in order to check the installed os (called rembo - never heard of before). That's why I can't use your solution, i think.
[10:28] <lucasvo> pygi: use bzr!
[10:28] <pygi> lucasvo, bzr is bad with Trac
[10:29] <lucasvo> no
[10:29] <lucasvo> and anyhow bzr is great with launchpad!
[10:29] <lucasvo> anybody can tell me how to update site-packages in python?
[10:30] <lucasvo> JoergD: look at: http://rom-o-matic.net/5.4.2/
[10:31] <lucasvo> press on configure on step 3
[10:31] <lucasvo> there is an option: STATIC_SERVER_IP:
[10:31] <lucasvo> try this
[10:32] <JoergD> ok, up to now i tried to use ALTERNATE_DHCP_PORTS_1067_1068.... no luck so far....
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[10:33] <lucasvo> JoergD: with rom-o-matic?
[10:35] <JoergD> yes. the first dhcp request is answered correctly by the dhcp-server, which listens to port 1067. the second request by the linux-kernel asks always on port 67 - which is the wrong port. But I'll try the STATIC_SERVER_IP option
[10:38] <pygi> lucasvo, please try "svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org/trunk" and tell me if it works
[10:39] <HedgeMage> hiya pygi :)
[10:39] <pygi> morning HedgeMage 
[10:39] <lucasvo> pygi: what user?
[10:40] <pygi> lucasvo, well, none? :)
[10:40] <pygi> lucasvo, it shouldnt ask you for a user?
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[10:40] <pygi> lucasvo, does it ask you for a user?
[10:40] <lucasvo> yes
[10:41] <lucasvo> I'll paste the output
[10:41] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.ca/109062
[10:42] <pygi> lucasvo, try the same now
[10:42] <lucasvo> same
[10:42] <pygi> sec
[10:43] <pygi> now pls
[10:43] <lucasvo> same
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=== pygi is so confused
[10:54] <JoergD> lucasvo, same problem. the client starts a dhcp request (the second one) before the nfs-mount. and the client asks the wrong dhcp server, again...
[10:54] <pygi> lucasvo, try : "svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org/trunk foo"
[10:54] <lucasvo> pygi: same
[10:55] <lucasvo> JoergD: and you can't change the dhcp config of the other server at all?
[10:55] <pygi> lucasvo, try again now
[10:55] <lucasvo> same
[10:59] <lucasvo> JoergD: if you can't, it seems to me, the only option is, to look for the second dhcp request in the image  and fix it
[11:02] <JoergD> lucasvo, where can I find some information how to adapt the image? I suppose i have to change the sources and create a new image. If this also does not work I'll talk to my school's sys admin
[11:02] <pygi> lucasvo, again pls
[11:04] <lucasvo> same
[11:05] <lucasvo> JoergD: I'd say talking to your school's sysadmin will be the easiest way
[11:07] <JoergD> lucasvo, well, but it seems to be possible to realise it... e.g. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ltsp-discuss&m=108942421726352&w=4 
[11:08] <pygi> HedgeMage, I am going insane with this svn :(
[11:09] <pygi> lucasvo, again pls
[11:11] <HedgeMage> pygi: what's wrong with it?
[11:11] <HedgeMage> and which svn?
[11:11] <pygi> HedgeMage, anonymous access not working
[11:11] <pygi> mine =P
[11:11] <pygi> libburn-svn.pykix.org
[11:12] <pygi> HedgeMage, svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org/trunk foo
[11:12] <pygi> try pls
[11:12] <HedgeMage> nope, wants a pw
[11:13] <pygi> enter?
[11:13] <HedgeMage> no dice
[11:13] <HedgeMage> anyhow, if it's anonymously available, it won't ask at all
[11:13] <JoergD> lucasvo: I wonder if it only has something to do with the edubuntu setup - the edubuntu ltsp client just does not want to recognize these option-129 setting, which should tell the client the correct dhcp-server. But I'll keep working on it... after taking some sleep. Thanks for your hints!
[11:13] <pygi> HedgeMage, please try now
[11:14] <HedgeMage> same result
[11:14] <lucasvo> JoergD: good night
[11:15] <pygi> svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org/trunk test
[11:15] <pygi> HedgeMage, try that
[11:18] <HedgeMage> one sec
[11:19] <HedgeMage> same
[11:19] <pygi> damn, it should work!!
[11:20] <HedgeMage> :(
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[11:29] <oomph> would edubuntu be used well in an internet cafe environment?
[11:33] <LaserJock> hmm, interesting question
[11:34] <LaserJock> I guess it might depend on the setup, how many computers, and what the specs are
[11:35] <LaserJock> I wouldn't see a particular motivation to use it over other derivatives other than if you wanted to use LTSP
[11:37] <Burgwork> LaserJock, public computers are public comptuers
[11:38] <Burgwork> a lot of the same issue that apply to schools apply to internet cafes
[11:38] <LaserJock> I suppose, but I wouldn't think an interenet cafe would be interested in the edu apps
[11:38] <Burgwork> no
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[11:39] <LaserJock> and if you don't want LTSP then there isn't a whole lot seperating Edubuntu from Kubuntu or Ubuntu or Xubuntu
[11:39] <Burgwork> not yet at least
[11:39] <LaserJock> right
[11:42] <oomph> yeah good point
[11:43] <oomph> I wanna do a LTSP setup for an internet cafe
[11:43] <oomph> with dumb terminals tieing into an application server
[11:43] <oomph> for basic functions such as word processing, surfing the web and IM
[11:43] <Burgwork> you still have the issue fo securing the desktop and time control
[11:44] <oomph> correct, are there any distributions geared towards that?
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[11:44] <LaserJock> heh
[11:45] <Burgwork> oomph, we love it if you could help edubuntu develop those sorts of features
[11:45] <oomph> yeah, would be great
[11:46] <oomph> like an out of the box internet cafe running on linux thin clients
[11:46] <oomph> with support for crap like VoIp would be nice :)
[11:46] <Burgwork> voip would seriously choke in an ltsp environment
[11:47] <oomph> yes, it probably would
[11:47] <oomph> how well does sound work under LTSP under edubuntu?
[11:47] <Burgwork> very well
[11:48] <oomph> would an application like skype run on it?
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[11:55] <Petaris> later all
[11:56] <lucasvo> oomph: afaik it works
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[12:03] <oomph> lucasvo: afaik?
[12:03] <lucasvo> oomph: as far as I know
[12:04] <oomph> k
[12:04] <oomph> well for a small 10 node internet cafe VoIP may not be too much overhead if it indeed works
[12:08] <lucasvo> no, but I would try to get a gbit uplink on your switch  to the server
[12:08] <oomph> true
[12:08] <oomph> lucasvo: do you currently run edubuntu?
[12:09] <lucasvo> yes
[12:09] <lucasvo> but no ltsp
[12:12] <oomph> ahh
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