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jim___hello I am trying to install glib.  first i downloaded glib to the desktop in a folder, then I ran the following from a terminal (./configure --prefix=/usr &&) after that i ran make install and i am receiving errors12:13
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Agiosjim__: apt-get install, forget compiling your own glib12:21
grizzlyis there some kind of "scripts repository" ?12:21
jim___i am new to this could you explain from the beginning at the terminal12:21
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grizzlysudo apt-get install glib , just type this!12:22
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ewaeis somebody know a french channel please12:23
jim___when i type that in the terminal it returns reading package list - done, building dependency tree-done, couldn't find package glib12:24
ewaeyou need to add en entry to your sources.list12:24
jim___how do I do that (add an entry to the sources.list12:25
grothesk_jim__: I'm 100% sure that you already have a glibc in your system.12:25
jim___when I run anjunta, it comes up with an error concerning glib12:25
grothesk_Which error?12:25
raven301_jim__: This will help with your sources.list http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.012:26
jim___maybe an easier question, what is the best and easiest compiler for c that I can download12:26
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grothesk_jim__: gcc12:26
jim___can i download gcc and from where12:26
grothesk_jim___: sudo apt-get install build-essentials12:27
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scabootsscais there a way to sort song files by bitrate?12:27
jim___when i run sudo apt-get install build-essentials it returns couldn't find package build-essentials12:28
grothesk_jim___: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:28
grothesk_without s Typo....12:28
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jesspherdoes anybody kjnow how to configure wine the right way?12:29
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sk8kidkUm, hey, When I open Konquerer and I type in google, nothing happens...12:33
Agiosjim___: you probably want libc6 but your app may be wanting an older version or something12:34
scabootsscaare you connected to the internet?12:34
sk8kidkSeems to be, because im using Konversation :-)12:34
sk8kidkoh wait12:34
larson9999i'm not connected to the internet12:34
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sk8kidknevermind...12:35
larson9999telepathy12:35
sk8kidkoh wait a sec12:35
larson9999jesspher: what's the right way?12:35
jesspherjust how to configure it12:35
sk8kidkI got to google, but it takes like 2 minutes to load the page, and I've got DSL12:35
sk8kidkand im using an ethernet cable12:35
Agiossk8kidk: you might want to disable ipv612:36
larson9999jesspher: the way i configure it is considered by many to be the wrong way.  but it works for me and is easy.  i use wine-tools12:36
sk8kidkipv6?12:36
grizzlysk8kidk: don't ues konqueror?12:36
sk8kidkI use konqueror12:36
Agiosyes, ipv6 causes some people serious performance network problens12:36
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sk8kidkokay, ill try to figure out how to turn it off :)12:37
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Ace2005Hi again12:37
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Ace2005Does anyone know which is the most up to date KDE + XGL + Nvidia thread there is in the fourms?12:37
Agiossk8kidk: To disable ipv6 in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives please see item #8 on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 or this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 or you can also change alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to alias net-pf-10 off as root in this file: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases12:38
sk8kidkokay thanks a bunch12:38
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AgiosAce2005: All I did was install nvidia-glx, run the config, bounce X12:39
Agiosunless you have old hardware that should work12:40
sk8kidkcould it also be that my computer is running at 450MHz? I dont think so...12:40
larson9999Agios: you switch from mandriva, too?  or was that another channel i saw you in?12:41
unix_infidelLOL12:41
unix_infideli cant believe people still use mandriva :P12:42
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eamonWhat's the root password in kubuntu? I fucked up and I need to log in as root to fix it:-/ :-/12:43
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unix_infidel!root12:43
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:43
Ace2005Agios: What config?12:43
unix_infideleamon: ^^^12:43
eamonI deleted my home folder12:44
eamonwith sudo12:44
lester__lol12:44
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Agioslarson9999: I still have two mandriva boxes. I switchec my desktop box though.12:44
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eamonI madee a new folder with the appropriate name but it wont work as my home folder12:44
Ace2005Agios: And also how did you tell KDM to use XGL?12:45
eamonDo I have to reinstall?12:45
AgiosAce2005: nvidia-glx-config enable12:45
Agiosper the ubuntu nvidia instructions12:45
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unix_infideleamon: what do you mean you have a new home folder but it wont work as your home folder?12:45
Agiosas far as I know it's using openGL12:45
unix_infideleamon: explain what you did, how you did it and what SPECIFICALLY wont work with errors an dmaybe we can halp you.12:45
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AgiosI get well over 6000 fps so I don't care what it's using :)12:46
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Ace2005Agios: Oh i see, i was asking about a guide on installing XGL on my system which uses KDE and an Nvidia card12:47
Agiosunix_infidel: distro's come and distro's go, don't be knocking others for what distro they use.12:47
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kbrooksAgios: define knock :-)12:47
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kbrookseamon: next time dont rm -rf x, rm -rf x/*12:48
eamonunix_infidel: Ok it's a long one. I wanted to copy back a home folder I had backed up from a previous distro, it wuoldn't let me overwight my home folder so I deleted it so that I could copy tha backup accross. Copying didn't work, it gave some mad error about the kde-media-manager not running. So I made a new folder with the same name as my last home folder and any time iI try to open konqueror I simply wont open12:49
angasulecan anyone give me a good DNS server? my ISP's have gone crazy12:49
apeman2020surew12:50
apeman2020dns coming up12:50
angasulethanks12:50
apeman202066.235.59.612:50
Ace2005How do i see which services are running now?12:50
apeman202066.235.59.712:50
apeman2020enjoy12:50
angasulethanks, this was driving me nuts12:50
Ace2005Like lm-sensors, how do i see which ones are running, the ones started at startup?12:50
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Kr4t05eamon: just reinstall.12:51
apeman2020i hope the works12:51
apeman2020let me know..12:51
eamonKr4t05: so a stupid little mistake of deleting a home folder with *nothing* in it means I have to reinstall? That sucks12:52
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Kr4t05eamon: Well, next time, don't delete your home folder. :)12:52
lindolfoyo ya'll12:53
eamonKr4t05: well I assumed copying accross my old one would work but it didn't12:53
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Kr4t05eamon: it's just one of those things.12:53
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Agioseamon: have you fixed it yet?12:53
eamonAgios: nope12:54
lindolfojust for my records, what countries are you guys from?12:54
eamonireland12:54
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lindolfo(thanks eamon) anyone else willing to collaborate?12:55
Agioseamon: ls -ls /home and make sure your home directory is there owner and group should be your user.12:55
Agioseamon: if that is the case, close all open applications except a terminal, rm -rf .kde, then ctrl-alt-bksp to restart X12:55
Ace2005How do i make KDE use Compiz?12:56
Agioseamon: that will of course reset all of your kde settings12:56
eamonAgios: No programs will launch. Not even konsole. I can only use the programs I happened to have open before I deleted /home/eamon12:56
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lindolfowell, thank you very much, have a good night or day12:56
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Agioseamon: ok, reboot and select the recovery mode grub option, you will end up at a # prompt.12:57
Agioseamon: cd /home12:57
eamonaaight12:57
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Agioseamon: rm -rf eamon, chown eamon:eamon eamon12:57
Agioseamon: reboot normally12:57
eamonCan I mount an ntfs external drive in recovery mode?12:57
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Agiosno idea, why would you need a ntfs drive in recovery mode?12:58
Agiosrecovery mode is to fix things12:58
eamonThat's where my /home backup is12:58
angasuleDNS didn't solve it :( I think my stupid ISP screwed up the 'transparent' proxy again12:59
Agiosyou put  linux backup data on a windows drive?12:59
eamonAgios: uh-huh12:59
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Agiosyou need to get things working again before you try using that backup anyway01:00
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eamonAgios: Thanks for your help01:00
Agiosthere are a couple of other files you need01:00
Agiosuh, woops01:00
angasulehow do I get MIDI playback working? I installed timidity, but it appears only timidity can play MIDI, I can't seem to start the daemon, and the wiki hasn't been updated since hoary01:01
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dibbonHello, my sound suddenly stopped working, it worked after my initial installation01:02
wckdkl0wnanyone else have a problem with firefox being extremely slow>?01:02
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dibbonwckdklown: its probably your internet or low memory01:03
wckdkl0wni am on cable01:03
dibbonProbably the website, or low memory01:03
wckdkl0wnbut i can open the same site with konquer and its fast as hell01:03
wckdkl0wnbut with firefox every site drags01:03
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eamonrecovery mode sucks :(01:05
eamonI'm gonna reinstall01:05
eamonbye01:05
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dibbonIf I try to start artsd, and it says cannot create mcop directory, does that mean that a semaphor is in place, or does it mean something is keeping Arts from starting01:09
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czmrlyd01:12
zenrus?01:12
czmrlyhi01:12
zendo you speak for russia ?01:13
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zenhi01:14
dibbonhello01:15
vontuxhow does one go about viewing the size of the hardrive that contains the root partition in ubuntu?01:15
dibbonuse the command 'df01:15
dibbon'01:15
vontuxdf?01:15
zenblat; kto po russki tut govorit? zaebali molchat' churki mlaaa!! :-/01:15
_susanahola01:15
dibbonYou'll see when you use it01:15
zenche za huina?01:16
dibbondf -h will put the bytes into gigabyte form so you don't have to do any calculating01:17
vontuxdibbon: thx01:17
zencje?01:17
dibbonyw01:17
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DrBairi have a very unmodified smb.conf file that errors out with "Invalid parameter name in config. file" when I try to load samba. testparm is useless. any ideas?01:19
zenyw yw HUI!01:19
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DaSkreech!ru01:26
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help01:26
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stummiesi have a problem with GL running sluggish01:32
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BluesKajI followed the instructions to config Xgl but all I did was screwup my X , so I'm wondering if anyone here has Xgl running in Dapper on ATI fglrx drivers01:32
BluesKajstummies, what vid card you using ?01:33
stummiesATi01:33
stummiesx160001:33
BluesKajok cool , I've got the elcheapo xpress200 onboard01:34
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stummiesi finally got kubuntu to not lock on logout, but, the GL runs real sluggish, i tried a workaround, but it didnt help01:34
BluesKajwell, you got it to work at least01:35
stummiesyeh, well, if i dont use fglrx, my refresh is too low01:35
BluesKajuhuh01:36
stummiesare you trying to get fglrx to run?01:36
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Dr_Willisi got fglrx going today on 2 machines. :P01:37
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BluesKajI have it running on X , but the help site says Xgl should run on my pc01:38
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Dr_WillisI know better then to even touch xgl at this time.01:39
Dr_Willis:P01:39
kbrooksDr_Willis: its alpha01:39
Agiosno wonder nobody can get it to work01:39
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kbrooksdefine "no body"01:40
Dr_Willisive seen it work on live cd's01:40
Dr_Willisand thats all ya need to get dizzy from the wiggly windows.01:40
Dr_Willis:P01:40
jeppelellecan someone help me install java fron terminal ?01:41
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DaSkreech!java01:41
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:41
DaSkreechjeppelelle: Read that01:41
jeppelelleok01:41
BluesKajI have the Kororaa live cd but even it froze after trying to bootinto the GUI01:42
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DrBairi'm having some smb.conf issues. Its a pretty generic default file with a minor addon or two. Any help would be appreciated... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1926201:43
Agiosnobody = any of the 14 people coming here today trying to get it to work unsuccessfully01:43
MAJanyone know how to get tvtime or kdetv or something to run on a ati 9200 all in wonder tv card01:44
jeppelellenow i want to install JRE in konsoll01:44
jeppelellehow i doo that ?01:44
Dr_Willisjeppelelle,  Huh?01:44
jeppelellejava runtime evironment01:44
Dr_WillisFor the Sun Java runtime apt-get install sun-java5-jre01:45
Dr_Willislike the bot just said.01:45
MAJ??01:45
jeppelellei hava installled it 10000 times, but i still cant play runescape :S01:45
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Dr_Willisno idea there.. perhaps ruescape is the problem.01:46
Dr_Willistry01:46
Dr_Willisjava --version01:46
MAJanyone one know about tvcards for kubuntu01:46
Dr_Willisand see if it works.01:46
jeppelelleokej01:46
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chip42might need to update-alternatives to select sun's jre vs gcj / gij-wrapper which is installed by default01:47
MAJanyone?01:47
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DaSkreechjeppelelle: Ohh You may want to run update-alternatives --config java01:47
Dr_Willisits possible that there are 2 java s nstalled.. that free one, and the official sun one.01:47
Dr_Williswhich would be fixed by DaSkreech 's answer. :P i think01:47
BluesKajsorry MAJ, not me  :(01:48
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jeppelellehow do i upfate ?01:48
MAJ;(01:48
Dr_Willisyep.. my system showed 3 javas01:48
jeppelelleupdate*01:48
Dr_Willissudo  update-alternatives --config java01:48
Dr_Willisand select the sun java01:48
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DaSkreechperofal: Shoudl I ask?01:49
Dr_Willisusr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java01:49
perofalna just in a old chanel I joined a lot of years ago01:49
perofaland I want them to remeber me01:49
jeppelellei have update but it stil doesent works01:49
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MAJGuess no one wants to respond01:50
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BluesKajsorry MAJ, not me  :(01:50
MAJthanks BluesKaj01:51
BluesKajdo i have to repeat myself ?01:51
DaSkreechDidn't you just do it anyway?01:51
jeppelellei have update but it stil doesent works01:51
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DaSkreechjeppelelle: What's the Error?01:53
jeppelellei just cant play runescape01:53
DaSkreechWhat happens?01:53
jeppelelleyou need to install plugin01:54
perofalDaSkreech: dont worry I willll not change my nickname :p you can still love me :D01:56
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jeppelelleaimwbody know a naice wallpaper site ?01:56
DaSkreechCause I was going to have to re do all my staliking notes :(01:56
lnxkdekde-look.org  animepaper.net01:56
DaSkreechjeppelelle: What plugin?01:57
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wolfmanzWhere does Kubuntu keeps its logo?02:02
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Riddellwolfmanz: KubuntuArtwork on the wiki02:08
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wolfmanzriddell thanks thats what i was looking for.02:12
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sk8kidkwhat the hell is the root password?!02:17
sk8kidkSorry, its annoying..02:17
DaSkreech!root02:17
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:17
Hawkwindsk8kidk: Everything is done with 'sudo'02:18
Dr_Willisthere is no root password.02:18
sk8kidkokay..02:18
Dr_Willisdirect logging in as root is disabled. the first users password is used to sudo To root.02:18
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Dr_WillisFaq #102:18
jeppelelleis some one runnig STEAM here ?02:19
Dr_Willisjeppelelle,  you mean the HalfLife Steam Thing?02:19
jeppelelleYes02:19
jeppelelleonly STEAM02:19
jeppelelleWWW.STEAMPOWERED.com02:19
jeppelellesomeone running that02:20
sk8kidkso, how do I use root commands?02:20
Dr_WillisIve heard it can work with cedega.. but proberly has  some issues02:20
Dr_Willissudo commandToRunAsRoot02:20
jeppelellecedega ?02:20
jeppelellewhere can i find cedega ?02:20
Dr_Williscedega is a comercial variant of wine02:21
Dr_WillisHow are you truying to run steam now?02:21
jeppelelleyes02:21
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Dr_WillisI am assuming that Yes ment that you are trying to run STEAM with 'Wine" ?02:22
jeppelelleYes02:22
Dr_Willis#winehq will proberly have details on that.. or the various wine forums/message boards. ive never tried Steam under WIne or Cedega.02:23
Dr_WillisI do know that it is supposed to work with Cedega02:23
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Dr_Willis!cedega02:23
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega02:23
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eamonwhat folder do win32 codecs go in for kaffeine?02:23
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khi.02:24
Dr_Willis!w32codecs02:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:24
ki know im root, BUT............02:24
eamonooh you shouldn't irc as root02:24
Dr_Willisbut its trivial to make a new user. :P02:24
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kmy kubuntu gui wont boot02:24
kDr_Willis: this is NOT the server gui of kubuntu02:25
keamon: of course its wrong for me to irc as root02:25
jeppelellecan someone help me get steam working, im using kubuntu02:25
Dr_Willisadduser bgates02:25
Dr_Willis:)02:25
kDr_Willis: s/gui/version/02:25
kDr_Willis: I dont want to add another user.02:25
kDr_Willis: I have mine.02:26
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kI need this "gui wont boot" problem fixed02:26
Dr_Willisjeppelelle,  you may wan tto read up on wine and do some googling.. Im not even sure wine can do steam at this time.02:26
kby gui, i mean kdm02:26
jeppelelleOkej02:26
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Dr_Willisk - do you get any error messages when you 'startx' ?02:26
kkdm starts, but doesnt pop up02:26
kDrBair: i havent tried that, lets see02:26
eamon!resolution02:28
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:28
jeppelellehow do i doo to instal nvidia drivers ?02:28
eamon!nvidia02:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:28
eamonjeppelelle: ^^^02:29
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Dr_Willis!nvidia02:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:30
Dr_Willis:)02:30
Dr_Willislol02:30
eamonWhat folder does xine look in for win32 dlls?02:33
eamonsorry not xine, kaffiene02:33
Lunar_Raven /usr/lib/win3202:33
Lunar_Raven:)02:33
eamoncool, thanx02:34
Lunar_Ravenno problem02:34
jeppelellecan someone hlp mee install mp3 plugins foor amarok in terminal02:35
abattoirjeppelelle: you have multiverse enabled?02:37
abattoir!multiverse02:37
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:37
jeppelelleyes i have02:38
abattoirjeppelelle: ok, good....02:38
eamon!easysource02:38
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:38
abattoirjeppelelle: in a terminal execute 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'02:38
abattoirjeppelelle: make sure you have amarok closed completely before this...02:38
jeppelelleyes02:39
jeppelellethen ?02:40
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abattoirjeppelelle: when installation is done, open up amarok and listen to your fav. mp3s :)02:41
abattoir(if it works that is :P)02:41
Commander-Croweif I have the Kubuntu CD02:41
Commander-Crowecan I just add it to my already installed Ubuntu installation02:41
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HawkwindCommander-Crowe: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:42
HawkwindCommander-Crowe: That will install the KDE desktop for you on your Ubuntu install02:42
abattoirCommander-Crowe: yes, add it as a rpository.... check out apt-cdrom...02:42
abattoir*repostitory02:42
Commander-Croweok02:42
abattoirCommander-Crowe: then do what Hawkwind said above.02:42
Commander-CroweI don't have internet often on that computer02:42
HawkwindCommander-Crowe: Then do what abattoir said first :)02:42
abattoirHawkwind: :)02:42
eamoncould somebody who has installed tell me what repos they used to get libxine-extracodecs?02:44
abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs02:44
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB02:44
abattoireamon: multiverse^^^^02:44
eamonso I have to put "multiverse" after all my repos?02:44
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abattoireamon: open up adept....02:44
eamonhuh?02:45
eamoncant I do it CLI?02:45
eamonOk I opened adept02:45
abattoireamon: ok, if that's your preferred method, 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list'02:45
jeppelelleis there a famous program like Limewire i can use too downloade music ?02:46
Hawkwind!limewire02:46
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.02:46
abattoirjeppelelle: yes, limewire itself :(02:46
eamonlol02:46
abattoireamon: manage repositories02:46
Hawkwindjeppelelle: Limewire is a pretty crappy app though.  Use something a bit better02:46
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eamonabattoir: right02:46
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jeppelellerecomend another ?02:47
abattoireamon: you should see a line w/ distribution as 'dapper' and components as 'main restricted'02:47
Hawkwindjeppelelle: frostwire, apollon, or get invited to some private torrent sites :)02:47
abattoirjeppelelle: also make sure, the first phrase in that line is 'deb'....02:47
abattoirjeppelelle: found the line?02:47
jeppelelle?02:47
abattoirjeppelelle: sometimes, its just the first line02:47
Hawkwindabattoir: Wrong person02:47
jeppelelleFrostwire doesent work for me02:47
abattoirjeppelelle: sorry, that was for eamon02:47
abattoir:P02:47
Hawkwindabattoir: You mean eamon :P02:47
DaSkreech!frostwire02:48
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:48
eamonabattoir: found it02:48
abattoirHawkwind: i blame tab-completion partly :P02:48
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abattoireamon: ok, double click on the part which says 'main restricted'02:48
Hawkwindabattoir: Hah.  That's what I like my tab completion, it goes by 'last spoke' in the channel :)02:48
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eamonabattoir: change to 'multiverse'?02:48
DaSkreechjeppelelle: What dod you get when you run it from command line?02:49
abattoireamon: and add universe, multiverse, so that it becomes, 'main restricted universe multiverse'02:49
DaSkreechHi aseigo02:49
LeeJunFananyone know if the newest ATI drivers allow suspend to RAM yet?02:49
abattoirHawkwind: i'm sure konv. does that too, but i had to blame someone/something else :P02:49
eamonabattoir: ok thanks02:49
abattoireamon: hit apply02:49
jeppelellei cant install frostwire :S02:49
jeppelellei cant install frostwire :S02:50
abattoireamon: close and then 'Fetch updates'02:50
DaSkreechAnyone worked with dpkg-buildpackage before?02:50
DaSkreechjeppelelle: dpkg -i doesn't work?02:50
eamonabattoir: ok, i'll go back to cli now (I dont like that adept program, it's too complex :s)02:51
jeppelellenope02:51
abattoireamon: hehe, ok...02:51
abattoireamon: do a 'sudo apt-get update'02:51
eamonk02:52
abattoireamon: see if package lists are downloaded from universe/multiverse02:52
abattoireamon: i.e do you see main, restricted, universe, multiverse on the screen?02:52
abattoirw/o any error msgs.02:52
unix_infidelHawkwind: is that tab completion a x-chat specific script?02:52
eamonabattoir: lots of 404s :(02:53
abattoireamon: hmmm then i guess source-o-matic would be the best way for you....02:53
abattoir!source-o-matic02:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:53
jeppelellehow do i install apollon in terminal ?02:54
jeppelellehow do i install apollon in terminal ?02:54
abattoireamon: i'm guessing something was removed from the url, or wasnt added properly02:54
eamonabattoir: could you pastebin me your sources.list please? I used easysource and that's what fecked up my repos02:54
abattoirjeppelelle: 'sudo apt-get install apollon'02:54
abattoireamon: hmm, ok... wait up, i have to fish out my dapper list...02:54
eamonk, thank you02:54
jeppelelleand after that ???02:55
StrudelNinjaeek I have my taskbar on autohide and it's been working fine, it disappeared though and I can't get it back up02:55
DaSkreechIgnore my earlier query :)02:55
abattoirjeppelelle: was it installed? then 'apollon'02:55
eamonjeppelelle: then type apollon to run it02:55
jeppelelleSorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT02:55
StrudelNinjais there a key shortcut to open my k-menu or something?02:56
eamonStrudelNinja: try pkilling kicker then launching it agin02:56
abattoireamon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1926602:57
eamonthanks02:57
StrudelNinja...pkilling kicker?02:57
jeppelellewhere is the launcher icon ?02:57
abattoireamon: actually you need only the second line, nothing else... :P02:57
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abattoirStrudelNinja: Alt+F2 ->'killall kicker && kicker'02:58
DaSkreechStrudelNinja: Alt+F102:58
StrudelNinjathere we go02:58
StrudelNinjathanks02:58
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StrudelNinjais it bad if it did it again02:58
abattoirStrudelNinja: what do you mean? if it disappears again... or if you execute the command?02:59
DaSkreech:-) Only if you don't want it to03:00
abattoirStrudelNinja: purists would ask you to do 'dcop kicker kicker restart'03:00
StrudelNinjait disappeared after I did that command03:00
StrudelNinjaso I did it again03:00
StrudelNinjaand now it's stuck up ><03:00
abattoirStrudelNinja: maybe you need to turn off that thing if it doesnt work for you03:00
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StrudelNinjayeah I did03:01
StrudelNinjaI'll sort it out later03:01
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eamonabattoir: aargh it no worky :(03:01
StrudelNinjabut with the size of everything I need to make it work eventually03:01
abattoireamon: what do you mean?03:01
eamonE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate03:02
eamonthat^^03:02
eamonEven with your repos03:02
abattoireamon: you did a 'sudo apt-get update' ?03:02
eamonnope03:02
DaSkreechYou may not have multiverse03:02
eamondo I have to do that first?03:02
abattoireamon: you should do that03:02
abattoireamon: that'd fetch the lates 'list' of packages from the repos03:02
eamonok03:02
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eamonabattoir: thanks, it's working now!03:10
abattoireamon: you're welcome :)03:10
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Agioseamon: got you home directory fixed I guess.03:12
doggiekubuntu rocks!!03:12
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abattoirdoggie: indeed :)03:13
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jeppelellehow too install frostwire in terminal ?03:15
abattoir!frostwire03:15
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:15
abattoirjeppelelle: got the deb from their site/03:15
abattoir?03:15
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jeppelellenot working03:16
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abattoirjeppelelle: what's the error? pastebin it if its large03:16
abattoir!pastebin03:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:16
jeppelelleit is on swedish :P03:17
abattoirjeppelelle: aah :)03:17
jeppelellei know03:17
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DrBairanyone use digikam and have it suddenly die?03:17
abattoirjeppelelle: well, post it anyways... i'll see if can make some sense out of it.. :P03:17
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eamonAgios: I reinstaled ;)03:19
eamon*reinstalled03:20
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StrudelNinjaanyone happen to know how to change the background color of the popup when I hover over a buddy in gaim? The system default is grey and it doesn't go well with the yellow popup03:20
StrudelNinjaguess not03:23
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Phantom784i'm trying to install kubuntu but the iso won't burn (it keeps giving me an error at about 92%).  is there a way to install without burning a cd?03:26
deuce868Phantom784, did you check the mdsum of the iso?03:27
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Phantom784yes, i did, and it was correct03:27
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doggiewhat about the cd-rw??03:33
Phantom784it was an rw.  does that cause problems?03:34
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DaSkreechIs there a shortcut key to jump to the Search bar in Konqui?03:38
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stevenHey.03:47
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apeman2020is there a good open source messaging server for ubuntu?03:50
apeman2020zimbra?03:51
vigilante_How can I make the K menu auto add installed programs?03:52
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xwolf-how do i turn on color stripping on konversation?03:52
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Dr_Willisvigilante_,  if they are packaged right  - they should add icons therer.03:53
vigilante_Dr_Willis: they are packages from the official repos, and they are not adding icons03:53
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amplican someone tell me how can i write and delete things on my USB key03:53
Dr_Williswhat packages?03:53
MikeThowdy03:53
apeman2020hi03:53
Dr_Willisampli,  ya plug it in an it 'should' pop up on the desktop, or in that storage media menu03:54
unix_infidelanyone know a place to some SUPER cheap (Sub 5$) 80mm case fans?03:54
abattoirvigilante_: maybe the menu isnt updated yet...03:54
Dr_Willisunix_infidel,  ya may be better off getting some better ones in bulk.03:54
unix_infidelDr_Willis: i need about 3, that's it :P03:54
Dr_Willistry tigerdirect.com03:54
unix_infidelunless you want in on the deal :P03:55
Dr_Willis3 and you want to go cheap? gesh03:55
Dr_Willisshipping will cost more then the fans03:55
MikeTi have an annoying sound problem, its on the latest kubuntu....a program locks up the sound server for itself, i cant both, for example, use Skype and play a song on XMMS at the same time03:55
vigilante_Dr_Willis: SMARTpm for one03:55
unix_infidelDr_Willis: yea.03:55
abattoirvigilante_: i dont think smart adds itself to the menu03:55
ampliDr_Willis, it  did pop up but i cant write or delete anything on it03:56
unix_infidelthe fans themselves locally are 5 dollars even + gas to go get them.03:56
unix_infidel+ tax03:56
Dr_Willisampli,  ya could mount it manually  or edit the fstab so a user can mount it.03:56
KaiHanariwhats a good .aac -> .mp3 converter?03:56
KaiHanaricompatable with aacPlus03:56
ampliDr_Willis, and how can i do that03:56
apeman2020can someoone help me out with a samba set up?03:58
MikeTsound problems.....bah03:58
Dr_Willismount /dev/sda1  /mnt/usbthing -t vrfat -r -o umask=022203:59
Dr_Willisor similer03:59
MikeTsometimes i even have to restart artsd :/03:59
Dr_Willisor edit the fstab03:59
Dr_Willisoops03:59
Dr_Willissudo mount /dev/sda1  /mnt/usbthing -t vfat -r -o umask=022203:59
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AgiosI have found that sometimes when installing using adept that the apps do not get added to the menus until you logout and back in.  You can also open the menu editor and click save and that will refresh them. Installing with apt-get does not seem to have that problem.03:59
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Dr_Willisin fstab -->  /dev/sda1  /mnt/usbthing  vfat  user,rw,umask=0222                         0 004:00
wckdkl0wni am trying to take my radeon 9800 pro with svid out and clone it to my tv using svid.. but svid works up until it starts linux04:00
wckdkl0wnany ideas?04:00
Dr_WillisHmm...04:01
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Dr_Willison my nvifdia card - the thing defaulted to the tv out.. so X was on the tv.. not the pc monitor04:01
Dr_Willis:P04:01
Dr_Willisi used the twinview features to clone the monitor to the tv.04:01
obf213how do i update my flash player....i got it using apt-get so do i just sudo apt-get update04:01
wckdkl0wntwinview?04:02
Dr_WillisNvidi's answer to the multi-monitor stuff04:03
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Dr_Willishttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=twinview+examples&btnG=Search04:05
Dr_Willisgood luck04:06
StrudelNinjahttp://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp <--- which do I want, RPM or plain linux?04:08
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RadiantFireStrudelNinja: you can install java from the repos04:10
RadiantFireStrudelNinja: apt-get install sun-java5-bin04:10
RadiantFireor -jdk04:10
RadiantFireone of those04:10
apeman2020need help creating a user..04:11
RadiantFireapeman2020: system-settings -> Users & Groups04:11
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MikeTwhat would cause more than one program to not be able to share sound?04:12
MikeTIE: Skype works fine, but i cant hear XMMS04:12
StrudelNinjaE: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin04:13
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HawkwindStrudelNinja: Why not install it from the repos04:14
StrudelNinjaI just tried04:14
HawkwindStrudelNinja: Follow the how-to04:14
Hawkwind!java04:14
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:14
MikeTapt-cache finds nothing of the sort, with the multiverse repo uncommented :p04:15
StrudelNinjaaah, don't have that repos up04:15
bimberiMikeT: if you've uncommented, that's probably only the dapper-backports line?04:16
MikeTeh? no im using the multiverse04:16
StrudelNinja...which one do I want to uncomment?04:16
bimberihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:17
HawkwindStrudelNinja: Read the how-to.  It tells you everything you need to know04:17
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MikeTany ideas on my sound? :/04:18
MikeTive been searching through forums all night, so far to no avail04:18
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apeman2020why does ubuntu auto log me in as ROOT?04:23
bkudriawhere do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?04:23
Hawkwindapeman2020: It shouldn't04:25
Hawkwindapeman2020: There is no root account in Ubuntu.  It uses sudo04:25
apeman2020well, I am logged in as good ol' root04:25
apeman2020root@icebox:~#04:25
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RadiantFirelol04:28
RadiantFiresudo su?04:29
RadiantFireyeah, getting to a root shell isn't that hard04:29
apeman2020...04:30
apeman2020hard or not, its driving me up a wall04:30
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apeman2020mess around as root, kill the tree!04:30
apeman2020i have two accounts created04:30
apeman2020and i cant seem to log in as either..04:30
robotgeekapeman2020: did you do the expert install?04:30
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apeman2020roger04:31
apeman2020i did the server install04:31
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apeman2020and then added KDE (kubuntu)04:31
Lunar_Ravenis there any advantage to doing it that way?04:31
Lunar_Raven@apeman04:31
Lunar_Ravenjust wondering04:31
Lunar_Raven:P04:31
apeman2020i prefer the command line to the UI04:31
Lunar_Ravenah04:32
apeman2020but thats really the only benefit04:32
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apeman2020I could also use some help with SAMBA configuration :(04:32
robotgeekapeman2020: hmm, i am not sure if that only creates the root user or so, sorry04:33
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apeman2020i just want it to stop auto logging me in.. i dont get any prompt for user or pass..04:34
robotgeekapeman2020: anyways, in kubuntu there is a option in kdm or so, which you might need to change04:34
apeman2020which option is that brother?04:34
robotgeekapeman2020: System Settings -> Login Manager04:35
bimberiapeman2020: so it's booting up straight to a root shell?  sounds like it's booting into recovery mode by default perhaps04:35
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apeman2020bimberi: that sounds about right04:35
apeman2020bimneri: I am going to do a restart and see if the UI will even boot..04:36
apeman2020brb04:36
robotgeekmy machine has worked without any issues for far too long, i am losing "linux debuggin skills"04:37
bimberiapeman2020: check the grub configuration (line starting with 'default' in /boot/grub/menu.lst)04:37
apeman2020robotgeek: its been a long time, thats why i want to do everything through the command line04:37
bimberirobotgeek: :)04:37
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robotgeekbimberi: havent needed to mess with anything for a really long time!04:38
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Lunar_Ravenkubuntu is quite stable04:38
Lunar_Raveni don't know that i've experienced any bugs04:38
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Lunar_Ravenfor a long time04:38
Lunar_Ravenlol04:38
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soulriderhi eevryone04:38
soulrideri finally got rid of win :)04:38
bimberirobotgeek: oh well, have a few more beers, then open a root shell and see what damage you can do! ;)04:39
soulriderim making the switch =D04:39
apeman2020bimberi: i am not currently using any boot loader however.. should that matter?04:39
bimberirobotgeek: (i'm in #ubuntu-doc as well)04:39
robotgeekbimberi: yeah, right. never!04:39
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apeman2020bimberi: i should change it to two?04:39
soulriderwhatc ommand can i use to see what network connections i got active ?04:39
bimberiapeman2020: not sure what you mean.  you must have a boot loader of some sort surely04:40
apeman2020i start x from the command prompt04:40
cpk2soulrider: ifconfig should do it04:41
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soulriderah, thanks, iw as tryiong ipconfig04:41
soulrideradn how can ic onnect/disconenct my pppoe connection ?04:42
bimberiapeman2020: no what i mean is that perhaps the machine is booting into recovery mode (a root shell) automatically.  Check your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.  The line near the top starting with 'default'.  The number correspondends to which boot line will be used by default (numbering starts at 0)04:42
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bkudriawhere do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?04:45
bimberisoulrider: once a connection is set up using pppoeconfig you can use something like 'pon dsl-provider' and 'poff dsl-provider' to start/stop04:46
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cpk2dont worry bimberi i am right there with you04:47
soulriderahh thanks!04:47
bimbericpk2: ;)04:48
bimberi!pppoe04:48
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE04:48
bimberisoulrider: ^^^^^ (more details)04:48
soulriderthanks!04:48
bimberinp :)04:49
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soulriderim a big newbie .P04:49
soulriderjust installed today04:50
soulriderand not planning on going back to win, except for gaming :P04:50
bkudriawhere do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?04:50
cpk2dont need windows for gaming ;)04:50
cpk2!wine04:50
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:50
cpk2theres your gaming solution04:50
bimberisoulrider: onya!04:51
soulrideroh my04:51
soulrideri guess i wont need to see bills Os again :P04:51
soulridernot like i bought it anyways.... :P04:51
StrudelNinjahey, I installed sun-java5-plugin like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29#head-21b44ff330436e9f387606a337f458a3c2113a3e said and tried it, but it didn't work so I went to install it again and I got http://pastebin.ca/10765404:52
cpk2StrudelNinja: you have 64bit installed?04:53
StrudelNinjanot that I know04:53
soulriderwont wine run slower than if i was running windows04:53
soulriderlike, wont i get less FPS in games ?04:53
cpk2i have never noticed any problems04:54
cpk2and what fps game?04:54
cpk2quake and unreal are native to linux04:54
cpk2StrudelNinja: did you do the command that it suggested?04:54
cpk2soulrider: you can get cedega it might be more user friendly than wine04:55
cpk2but you are supposed to pay like 5 bucks or something for cedega04:55
cpk2!cedega04:55
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega04:55
StrudelNinja"Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu (Ubuntu only), or install the sun-java5-plugin package." <--- I took it to mean "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin"04:55
soulridercant i get a serial anywhere :P04:55
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OODnot here04:55
OODuse wine04:55
archangel_Hey all04:55
OODit's getting much better at game compatibility04:56
cpk2StrudelNinja: it says run apt-get -f install04:56
archangel_How do I get the codec to play avi, wma, yada yada yada04:56
archangel_kaffiene says I need it04:57
StrudelNinjaok that looks like it sorta worked04:57
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StrudelNinjagot an error still04:57
robotgeek!codecs04:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:57
StrudelNinjahttp://pastebin.ca/10766604:58
archangel_cool thanx04:58
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StrudelNinjathat's the same error I got the first time I installed04:59
StrudelNinjaor attempted to install04:59
cpk2StrudelNinja: you close adept/synaptic?05:00
StrudelNinjayeah05:00
StrudelNinjaonly thing I have open is konsole05:00
cpk2check ps aux and make sure you dont have it running05:01
StrudelNinjaif I don't know what it is can I assume it's not running05:01
cpk2but it obviously is running05:01
StrudelNinjahow would I close it? I've only had linux for a day05:02
cpk2adept/synaptic running is pretty much the only cause for that error05:02
StrudelNinjaadept is closed05:02
StrudelNinjaI don't have synaptic05:02
cpk2do "ps aux" in a terminal (you might want to maximize the terminal) and see if there is an adept listed05:02
robotgeekStrudelNinja: sudo killall adept; sudo killall dpkg; sudo killall apt-get05:02
cpk2that works too05:03
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robotgeekjmichaelx: wireless works?05:05
jmichaelxrobotgeek: :-D05:05
jmichaelxrobotgeek: yes, it is working well, and definitely faster than 11 mbps05:05
jmichaelxit seems to be at full speed05:06
robotgeekjmichaelx: very cool05:06
jmichaelxvery05:06
cpk2i finally got my stupid wireless card to work05:06
cpk2i had to have a chipset that only works with ndiswrapper05:06
jmichaelxthis saved me from yet another reinstallation.... i have no idea why installing the os driver worked this time, but didn't the first time i tried it05:07
jmichaelxcpk2: what chipse is it?05:07
robotgeekjmichaelx: firmware?05:07
cpk2marvell05:07
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jmichaelxrobotgeek: i used fwcutter to extract the firmware last time, too. but for some reason it was not successful05:08
jmichaelxhmm, marvell, never heard of it. but... if it works with ndiswrapper, that is worth something05:08
robotgeekjmichaelx: well, who cares as long as it works now :)05:08
StrudelNinjaI did what you said, robotgeek, but it's giving me the same error05:09
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jmichaelxrobotgeek: exactly lol05:09
cpk2StrudelNinja: you check "ps aux"?05:09
StrudelNinjayeah05:10
archangel_how can I fix this?05:10
archangel_A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: wmvdmod.dll05:10
robotgeekStrudelNinja: did yo urun easyubuntu?05:10
StrudelNinjathere were some adepts open so I killed them05:10
StrudelNinjawhat's easyubuntu05:10
cpk2StrudelNinja: did they actually close or are they still up?05:10
StrudelNinjathey're closed now05:11
abattoir!easyubuntu05:11
archangel_I couldnt find all the codecs I needed in adept05:11
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:11
robotgeekStrudelNinja: i am one of the devs, i have seen this error before :)05:11
abattoirjmichaelx: hi :)05:11
StrudelNinjalemme try this easyubuntu05:11
robotgeekStrudelNinja: lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat05:11
robotgeekStrudelNinja: it wont solve anything, you need to fix issue at hand!05:11
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jmichaelxabattoir: howdy05:12
StrudelNinjaok...how do I do that05:13
jmichaelxabattoir: good to see you tonight05:13
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robotgeekStrudelNinja: "lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"05:13
StrudelNinjashould I have seen something happen when I did that05:14
robotgeekStrudelNinja: well, if there is not output, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"05:14
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jmichaelxnow that the wireless is working so well on this laptop, i think i may get rid of the windows partition :-D05:18
cpk2if i didnt have a girlfriend i might be completely free of windows05:19
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jmichaelxgirlfriends are frequently incompatible with linux, i have noticed05:20
OODhaha05:20
cpk2cant even use wine or ndiswrapper on them =P05:20
jmichaelxi know05:20
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freddysatelliteanybody into java?05:21
Perseid0Hi. Having sound problems. My sound card is detected and works in Amarok, Kaffeine and Neverwinter Nights, but not in KDE itself. No system sounds, Test Sound does nothing and Rosegarden locks up the computer. Any ideas?05:22
StrudelNinjahow long should this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a take05:22
OODPerseid0: use a different sound system for KDE05:23
OODgo so system settings->Sound & multimedia->Hardware05:23
Perseid0I've tried that. They all do the same thing.05:24
freddysatelliteanybody do java programming?05:25
robotgeekStrudelNinja: should be almost immediate05:26
StrudelNinjaI've been having to go through a bunch of dialogs05:26
mister_robotofreddysatellite: yes, some05:26
robotgeeklooks like i gave you the wrong command, shoot05:26
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freddysatellitemister_roboto, what ide do you use?05:27
mister_robotofreddysatellite: eclipse05:27
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freddysatellitemister_roboto, and any speciall plug in like myeclipse?05:28
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McScrufflo all, im haveing ram issues with kde, is 512 not enough with kubuntu....05:28
McScruffSysinfo for 'laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), , RAM: 488/495MB, 97 proc's, 14.5h up05:28
McScruffnearly all my ram...05:29
bobdsfdfs!repos05:29
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:29
mister_robotosubclipse for subversion access and been playing with wtp, that's it.  cdt for c++ code but don't use that for real coding05:29
bobdsfdfs!easysource05:29
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:29
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mister_robotofreddysatellite: subclipse for subversion access and been playing with wtp, that's it.  cdt for c++ code but don't use that for real coding05:29
abattoirMcScruff: that's pretty normal, that's how Linux manages memory05:29
abattoirMcScruff: it caches stuff, and optimizes memory usage05:29
robotgeeki heard eclipse with pydev is good, but i cant use it.05:30
McScruffabattoir: then why does it seem to run so slow?05:30
robotgeekMcScruff: you might want to turn off all crap like tooltips, translucency etc05:30
abattoirMcScruff: could you explain what you mean by 'slow'?05:30
robotgeekSystem Settings -> Appearance05:30
cpk2McScruff: my top shows about 480 mB of ram being used05:30
abattoirMcScruff: is the cursor movement slow? do appllications take a lot of time to launch?....05:31
freddysatellitemister_roboto, thanks, i use eclipse and myeclipse but on windows05:31
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McScruffabattoir: applications sometimes take a while, boot-up isnt great, and running a few apps makes the curser run slow05:31
Flosofthey05:31
Flosofthow can I set the gcc export variable or something like that?05:31
freddysatellitemister_roboto, subversion, i did not know about the plug in. I use it outside the ide (very dirty by the way)05:32
McScruffabattoir: 5.10 was fine tho :S05:32
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freddysatellitemister_roboto, how good is the plug in?05:32
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mister_robotofreddysatellite: i use command line on unix.   subclipse plugin used to be not so hot a year ago but it's very good now. as good or better than the cvs plugin that is built in05:33
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i mean how well it integrates with the ide. (i am not going into CVS).05:33
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mister_robotofreddysatellite: it's very well integrated. easy to use if you understand how svn works05:33
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i do I have been using svn for a while now.05:33
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freddysatellitemister_roboto, i'll try it..05:34
mister_robotofreddysatellite: if you've used the cvs plugin, it's very close to that - similar menus and such.05:34
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mister_robotofreddysatellite: well worth the time to use it. save you from having to go out to shell to manipulate svn. you can see what changed directly from a synchronized view in eclipse05:35
mister_robotoworks well05:35
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i had never used the cvs plug in, i preferred to use the shell (cause i did not know about the plug in), i don't trust cvs on very large projects.05:36
abattoirMcScruff: have you checked CPU usage?05:36
McScruffyep05:36
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McScruffabattoir: that isnt too bad (expect when running java)05:36
abattoirMcScruff: its not 100% when the computer slows down?(or even high)05:36
McScruffthe only thing i can relate it to is when you use windows and it runs like a dog05:37
freddysatellitemister_roboto, have you tried netbeans?05:37
soulriderallways you mean ?05:37
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i used cvs heavily for about 5 years without a problem. of course, without having atomic commits, some of that is a little lucky. a few times i had to manually go in and release locks and stuff05:37
soulriderto write java apps i use Eclipse :P05:37
abattoirMcScruff: heh, i know that feeling :)05:37
StrudelNinjaI mean if this were XP I'd restart and try again but I doubt that's going to fix whatever problem I have05:37
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i loaded it one day and played with it for a couple of hours but never really used it, no05:37
McScruffabattoir: i cant put my finger on it but when i used zenwalk it was 10 times quicker05:38
abattoirMcScruff: i have lesser memory than you, and it works well for me...05:38
mister_robotofreddysatellite: looks nice but we standardized on eclipse at work so i just go with it05:38
abattoirSysinfo for 'abattoir': Linux 2.6.17-5-amd64-k8 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology ML-30 at 800 MHz (1600 bogomips), HD: 36/46GB, RAM: 224/307MB, 82 proc's, 1.2d up05:38
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abattoirMcScruff: ^^^^05:38
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freddysatellitemister_roboto, it is nice, but still need more features05:38
cpk2zombies?05:38
McScruffSysinfo for 'laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), , RAM: 484/495MB, 95 proc's, 14.15h up05:38
freddysatellitemister_roboto, there aren't many netbeans plug ins to cover the holes.05:38
McScruffabattoir: im running alot more procs05:39
mister_robotofreddysatellite: yes, eclipse seems to be grabbing all the mindshare05:39
cpk2lol 95 procs? not very many05:39
abattoirMcScruff: McScruff, i just restarted X now, so generally i run about the same no., so i guess that doesnt matter05:39
SpAwNhas anyone ever had cedega/wine cause there computer to suddenly reboot...ive had it happened probly 4 or 5 times...to the pooint of where im weary of using anything with wine?05:39
abattoirMcScruff: same no. as you, that is05:39
McScruffabattoir: u using kde svn?05:39
StrudelNinjarobotgeek: happen to know what the right command is?05:39
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i was using netbeans, but after i started to use eclipse, i chose eclipse05:40
abattoirMcScruff: nope05:40
freddysatellitemister_roboto, more choices05:40
McScruffabattoir: i didnt think 3.5.4 was out05:40
abattoirMcScruff: hmm, not yet announced, am running edgy...05:40
robotgeekStrudelNinja: hmm, just try to install something with apt-get, it shoudl tell you05:40
freddysatellitemister_roboto, on the cvs, i have to synchronized remotely from time to time, when the connection failed.. locks, etc.05:41
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i was happy to see callisto, where they specified all the packages of plugins that work together flawlessly. was a pita tracking down cdt and wtp separately, for instance. wish they would just build in subclipse too, but it's easy to just go grab that05:41
McScruffabattoir: also have you got a link to sort the kernel out, it runs too much crap :P05:41
abattoirMcScruff: you want to remove modules that load automatically?05:41
cpk2McScruff: i have 109 procs and no problems here, on a laptop with 512 mem05:41
StrudelNinjak I tried to install kblackbox but I got nearly the same errors05:41
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abattoirMcScruff: so, i'd say its not a memory issue05:42
McScruffabattoir: i want to remove stuff i dont need05:42
freddysatellitemister_roboto, you have shown me another one, i have seen the callisto ad on eclipse website, but did not pay attention to it.05:42
McScruffhmm, i think its just kde and im used to xfce speed05:42
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mister_robotofreddysatellite: you should check it out. the callisto repository has all the major plugins right there, very easy to get many things you used to have to track down separately. and it just works :)05:43
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i should warn you... i found that installing subclipse last worked with callisto but if i installed it before wtp and cdt, i was having some problems that i never got to the bottom of05:43
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i am a wanna get rid of windows user, do you use linux as your primary OS?05:44
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i think it's due to the fact that the subclipse plugin for eclipse 3.2 is not yet final code05:44
abattoirMcScruff: well, if your cursor movements are not smooth, for eg., i'd say its something else05:44
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StrudelNinjahttp://pastebin.ca/107772 <--- copy of the konsole session05:44
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i use it at home but develop at work on windows and hpux05:44
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McScruffabattoir: but i also wanna speed up the bootup :P05:45
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i want to migrate to linux, safer that windows05:45
StrudelNinjashould I try to install sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb and sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb ...?05:45
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i am testing ubuntu for the moment05:45
cpk2StrudelNinja: do you get an error if you try to use adept?05:46
mister_robotofreddysatellite: unfortunately, when i want to vpn in to work, i have to use windows as well because the vpn is based on an activex control05:46
mister_robotofreddysatellite: been using ubuntu for almost a year.  i like it05:46
freddysatellitemister_roboto, have you tried wine?05:46
mister_robotofreddysatellite: since hoary hedgehog :)05:46
abattoirMcScruff: this might help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949105:46
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i drink wine all the time!05:46
freddysatellitemister_roboto, nice :)05:47
robotgeekStrudelNinja: sudo!05:47
StrudelNinjaI can't even get adept to open now05:47
mister_robotofreddysatellite: i haven't tried running ie in wine with the activex control if that's what you mean05:47
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robotgeekStrudelNinja: sudo apt-get install foo05:47
mister_robotofreddysatellite: just figured it wouldn't work since it needs to hookk the tcp stack05:47
freddysatellitemister_roboto, give it a try, it might work05:47
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cpk2lol just noticed he didnt do apt-get -f install as sudo05:48
StrudelNinjasame errors05:48
robotgeekStrudelNinja: sorry, did not notice05:48
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i am trying to run a windows application that connects to mysql thru tcp/ip, and that part is working05:48
mister_robotofreddysatellite: you're right, it's worth trying05:48
StrudelNinja'tis ok05:48
mister_robotofreddysatellite: yes but that's easy. just a normal socket connection.  vpn is a bit trickier05:49
robotgeekStrudelNinja: i think killing adept while java installation messed it up.05:49
mister_robotofreddysatellite: but it might work05:49
robotgeekStrudelNinja: sudo might have to edit that file manually to fix the error.05:49
robotgeekyou, err05:49
freddysatellitemister_roboto, the point is that i just install my application and run it.. that's it05:49
cpk2hmm whats the dpkg command? dpkg-reconfigure -a ?05:49
mister_robotofreddysatellite: point taken. i'll give it a try05:49
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freddysatellitebut for what i've tested if the application is complex, BUM!!05:50
StrudelNinjawhat file05:50
robotgeek /var/cache/debconf/config.dat05:50
cpk2StrudelNinja: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure java05:50
soulridererr, like 10 mins ago i clicked ona  file... and my desktop wont respond ;P05:50
StrudelNinjadebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p                                                              rocess05:50
StrudelNinjaer, without that giant gap05:51
robotgeekStrudelNinja: and "sudo lsof  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" gives?05:51
freddysatellitemister_roboto, mine has a few small program and the big main one. the smallers are flawlesly working, but the big one just shutdown without any warning.05:51
StrudelNinjadpkg-reco 23462 root    7rW  REG    8,1 55504 16877167 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat05:51
freddysatellitemister_roboto, i think the vpn layer is complex, but is not big.05:51
robotgeeksudo kill -9 2346205:51
freddysatellitemister_roboto, hope it works for you.05:52
cpk2robotgeek: hooray now he can apt-get!05:52
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StrudelNinjaok, try java install again now?05:52
cpk2StrudelNinja: sudo dpkg-reconfigure java05:52
StrudelNinjahttp://pastebin.ca/10779505:53
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cpk2StrudelNinja: oh ok i thought you had already tried to get java but it failed, so if you are trying to just get jave do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin05:54
cpk2java*05:54
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StrudelNinjaexcellent, it works now05:56
StrudelNinjafinally05:56
StrudelNinjathanks05:56
robotgeekStrudelNinja: cool05:56
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soulriderhi, im back :P05:57
cpk2StrudelNinja: you had a process hiding out locking up apt-get ;)05:57
Perseid0Hmm. I also have no MIDI whatsoever.05:57
StrudelNinjaI see05:57
cpk2adept or something was probably hiding from you05:58
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soulriderguys, im trying to isnatllt he multimedia codecs and i put libxine-extracodecs in adept to search for them06:01
soulriderbut i get 0 results06:01
cpk2!easysourcew06:02
ubotuI know nothing about easysourcew - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:02
cpk2!easysource06:02
soulriderand i believe all the repositories area ctivated06:02
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:02
abattoirsoulrider: make sure you have the 'multiverse' repository enabled06:02
soulrideryes, i do06:02
soulrideri just checked06:02
abattoirsoulrider: hmm, also make sure you have enabled it for 'dapper'....06:02
abattoirsoulrider: many people often enable it for 'dapper-backports'06:02
soulrideruhm, hang on06:03
abattoirwhere 'dapper' and 'dapper-backports' refer to the distribution, of course06:03
soulrideri just clicked on fetch updates :P06:03
abattoirsoulrider: aah, yes, i thought you'd done that :)06:03
cpk2hehe06:03
soulrideruhm yes, its for dapper-backports06:04
soulrideri need dapper right ?06:04
abattoirsoulrider: yes :)06:04
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soulriderwhat do i do? :/06:04
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cpk2soulrider !easysource06:04
soulriderpretend youre talkign toa  retard :P06:05
cpk2!easysource06:05
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:05
abattoirsoulrider: enable it for dapper, the way you did for 'dapper-backports'06:05
abattoirelse do the above ^^^^ :)06:05
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soulrideri dont seem to have multiverse for dapper, only dapper-backthingy06:05
cpk2use the link!06:05
Perseid0OK. Last call for help. I have sound in Amarok and Kaffeine, but no system sounds and no MIDI anywhere.06:06
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cpk2Perseid0: you check alsamixer settings/play with alsa?06:07
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Perseid0alsamixer says: "No mixer elems found"06:07
soulridertot ell you the truth, i dont know what i gotta do with that link :P06:08
cpk2are you using alsa?06:08
Perseid0This is going to sound noobish, but I'm not sure.06:08
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CornelliusThere's a beginning for everything06:08
Perseid0How do I check which sound system I;m using?06:09
crimsunPerseid0: if a*mixer given06:09
crimsunarg06:09
McScruffi look in amarok - settings - engine :P06:09
crimsunPerseid0: if a*mixer gives you errors, then you're not likely using alsa natively.06:09
McScruffi do it the long way06:09
digitalslackerAnybody have ideas as to why mythtv won't install? It comes up with an error saying "Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"06:09
cpk2soulrider: you using dapper?06:10
crimsundigitalslacker: do you have both universe and multiverse enabled?06:10
soulrideryes06:10
Em4ni have an interesting problem... when i login via kdm, it appears to login, then kicks me back to the login screen... where should i begin to look to fix this?06:10
digitalslackercrimsun: yes06:10
crimsunPerseid0: what's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''?06:10
crimsundigitalslacker: pastebin the errors from ``apt-get install mythtv''06:10
Perseid00 [Namtai         ] : USB-Audio - EyeToy USB camera Namtai06:11
Perseid0                     Sony corporation EyeToy USB camera Namtai at usb-0000:00:02.0-6, full speed06:11
Perseid01 [Audigy         ] : Audigy - Audigy 1 [SB0090] 06:11
Perseid0                     Audigy 1 [SB0090]  (rev.3, serial:0x511102) at 0xa000, irq 23306:11
_normal1hey how do you install rpm ??06:11
Perseid0It's pretty neat that it thinks my eyetoy is a sound card.06:11
_normal1what command06:11
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cpk2soulrider: if so select dapper from the pulldown,put in the 2 letter country code (US for united states), then check the first 6 boxes i suppose06:11
cpk2then get your list06:11
soulrideroh, ok, thanks06:11
soulrideri guess i gotta type UY :P06:11
crimsunPerseid0: that's because it is. Are you planning to use the Audigy as the default sound card?06:12
cpk2_normal1: ubuntu doesnt use rpms06:12
Perseid0Yes.06:12
_normal1hmm06:12
_normal1okay thanks06:12
crimsunPerseid0: then in a Konsole, type this command: ``asoundconf set-default-card Audigy''06:12
crimsunPerseid0: then log out of KDE and back in.06:12
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cpk2_normal1: .deb i suppose is the closest thing to rpm06:12
cpk2_normal1: have you tried using apt-get?06:13
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Perseid0Ok. I may or may not be back. :) Thanks.06:13
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digitalslackercrimsun: would love to pastebin if it was working. It just sets there doing absolutely nothing after clicking "send"06:15
robotgeekdigitalslacker: use another one?06:15
crimsundigitalslacker: use another (any of the hundreds of them)06:15
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soulridercpk2: i added the list tot he repositores06:16
soulriderand it still wont find it06:16
cpk2did you update?06:16
soulrideroh no06:16
soulriderk, thanks06:17
soulrideras you can see, i just installed linux :P06:17
digitalslackercrimsun: http://www.copypot.com/32706:17
cpk2soulrider: no problem, remember you always have to update if you want to get new things06:17
soulrideri didnt know that06:17
cpk2that includes upgrades you will have to update and then do upgrade06:17
soulriderafetr im done with thsi im gonna downlaod JDK 5, flash and Opera06:18
soulriderand hope evrything works :P06:18
crimsundigitalslacker: you have to configure root's account for mysql first.06:18
cpk2java?06:18
crimsundigitalslacker: there's documentation in /usr/share/doc/mysql-admin/  if you have that package installed.06:18
digitalslackercrimsun: didn't know to do that06:18
cpk2are you using 64bit soulrider?06:18
cpk2digitalslacker: look on the wiki under lamp06:19
soulridernope06:19
soulrideryes, i need java06:19
cpk2it will tell you the basic of setting up a lamp if thats what you are after06:19
soulriderima ctually studying compuetr engineering06:19
soulriderand in programming we use java :P06:19
soulriderill be satrting semester #2 soon :P06:19
kanasoulrider: then you might consider eclipse or netbeans too06:20
cpk2ok, well if you want the java plugin to work on the web and stuff you need sun-java5-bin06:20
soulrideryes, i use eclipse06:20
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kanasoulrider: yah i prefer eclipse too06:20
soulriderim gonna love next semester06:21
soulriderwere gonna add GUIs to our programs :P06:21
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cpk2i've never bothered taking comp sci classes because they always have ridiculous math requirements06:21
soulrideri guess i will be able to make a GUI for my lanme minesweeper :P06:21
robotgeekcomputer science != programming!06:21
kana:)06:22
soulriderif anyone want my minesweeper source ill send it :P06:22
confuseddoes anyone know how I can emulate the mouse wheel with the thumb button on the side of the mouse?06:22
lnxkdesomeone using  quinn kxdocker?06:22
soulrideri wrote it in spanish though ^06:22
soulrider^^06:22
kanarobotgeek: depend on where you study. yet i agree northamerica software engineering is whay you want for prog06:23
robotgeekkana: i am a mechanical engineer :)06:23
kanarobotgeek: me too //handshake06:23
unix_infidelwhat's the default initlevel at which apache is started.06:23
soulrideri ahd a calculus exam last thrusday06:23
soulrideri dont know if i passed :-/06:24
kanaspecialized in OR so lots of programming there (simulation) to be particular06:24
soulrideri believe i got like 60 or 65/10006:24
soulrideradn you need 70 to pass06:24
robotgeekkana: good going.06:24
cpk2looking at the catalog right now and it has "intro to programming" in "computer science"06:24
cpk2=P06:24
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cpk2as well as software project06:24
cpk2unix system admin06:24
_normal1hey how do you save on vi ?06:24
robotgeek_normal1: :wq06:25
soulridererr, i updated and upgraded... and i stuill cant find the codecs lol06:25
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_normal1thanks06:25
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cpk2my university seems to think comp eng is just databases it seems06:25
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Em4nanyone have any ideas about my login loop problem?06:26
cpk2soulrider: you know the name of the package?06:26
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soulriderlibxine-extracodecs06:26
soulriderlinuxmachos? is that like tux-pr0n? :P06:26
cpk2!libxine-extracodecs06:26
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:26
cpk2!repos libxine-extracodecs06:27
ubotuI know nothing about repos libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:27
cpk2hmm06:27
kanadoes the opera package in the repos work with the mplayer plugins or is it the same as the one from the opera website?06:27
soulriderthats what the help sais :-/06:27
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soulriderCodecs for playing non-free formats are not included in Kubuntu by default. You can get support for the extra codecs by installing the libxine-extracodecs package from the Multiverse repository06:27
digitalslackerI still get the exact same error message when trying to install mythtv06:27
soulriderBRB06:28
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soulriderim back06:32
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westjdcan anyone help me with formating an unrecognized hard drive?06:37
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Perseid0OK. I have system sounds again. Yay! :) But I still have no MIDI.06:39
kanawestjd: try man mkfs06:40
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westjdkana, I am very new to some of thses complex (what I think is comples) linux commands06:41
kanawestjd: i have little faith with the graphical tools so am afraid can not help you there :)06:42
westjdkana I have an NTFS formated drive, and I want linux to formate it and use it. (i dont care about data loss)06:42
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gekko`westjd: search for gparted or qtparted06:44
Em4nthis is confusing... kde keeps crashing when i login as a regular user, but root can get in just fine06:45
gekko`both are gui partitioning applications06:45
westjdthnks geko06:45
nixboxhi all06:48
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nixboxi have a windows installation with one NTFS partition, is there any software which can help me partition that single partition futher and in-place?06:48
nixboxparted is only for FAT32?06:48
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westjdnixbox I saw some wiki infor about NTFS06:49
westjdyou should look there06:49
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gekko`nixbox: do you want to format your hdd to ntfs?06:50
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westjdhhhmmm qt parted does not see any devices06:51
westjdI better go to bed anyway and figure it out in the moring.06:52
westjdlater all06:52
nixboxgekko`,  no, i want to install linux and i want to extract some space from the NTFS partition without displacing any data06:52
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wckdkl0wnis there anyway to back track something i did in settings?06:53
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wckdkl0wni was messing around with system settings - display earlier to try and get my output to clone onto my tv through svid and now i get an error when opening it and i dont have video playback on my monitor06:54
wckdkl0wneven in administrator mode06:55
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apeman2020hello all06:55
soulrideruhm, im insatlling the flash plugin06:56
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soulriderbut hte instalation is kinda stuck in 90%06:56
soulriderits been there for minutes now06:56
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soulriderSetting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ...06:56
apeman2020i am looking to use apt-get to install x on my server build of ubuntu... i need some HELP!06:56
wckdkl0wnit says an error occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphan module...... and you have old third party modules lying around06:56
wckdkl0wnthe module display could not be loaded06:57
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soulrider!ntfs06:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:59
alexiconheyas, whats that important xine package to get??? and the repository it needs?07:01
alexicon!xine07:01
ubotuI know nothing about xine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:01
alexicon!libxine07:01
ubotuI know nothing about libxine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:01
alexiconhm07:01
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apeman2020need help installing xwindows on my ubuntu server install~07:06
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jk-apt-get install xserver-xorg ?07:07
apeman2020nope..07:07
apeman2020doesnt work07:07
jk-why's that ?07:07
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apeman2020package xserver-xorg has no installation candidate07:07
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apeman2020any ideas?07:08
jk-what do you have in your sources.list ?07:08
jk-pm me instead of flooding channel :)07:08
apeman2020i have uncommented all of the repositories (default)07:10
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MilhousePunkRock!info libxine07:15
ubotuPackage libxine does not exist in dapper07:15
jk-libxine1-main07:16
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jk-sorry, libxine-main107:18
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alexiconhi, whats the name of the repository that contains xine-extracodecs?07:23
alexiconis that the right package name?07:23
wckdkl0wni was messing around with system settings - display earlier to try and get my output to clone onto my tv through svid and now i get an error when opening it and i dont have video playback on my monitor07:23
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wckdkl0wnit says an error occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphan module...... and you have old third party modules lying around07:23
wckdkl0wnthe module display could not be loaded07:23
wckdkl0wnany ideas on a fix for this?07:23
Hawkwind!info xine-extracodecs07:23
ubotuPackage xine-extracodecs does not exist in dapper07:23
alexiconhm07:24
Hawkwind!info libxine-extracodecs07:24
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:24
alexiconah cheers!07:24
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alexicon!amarok > alexicon07:25
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tulgawhere locate KDE's menu file?07:26
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Ignite_tulga, its built out of .desktop files in /usr/share/applications07:29
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Ignite_you can edit the menu if you right click it then choose "Menu Editor"07:30
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jesspherdoes anybody know any program in ubuntu that can open pdf files07:30
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jk-kpdf07:30
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noiesmo!pdf07:31
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/KPDF/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source)07:31
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jessphercan i run this programs usiing the terminal? xpdf/KPDF/gpdf07:32
jk-yes07:32
HawkwindYes, of course07:32
jesspherwhat do i type07:32
jk-kpdf07:33
Hawkwindkpdf, xpdf, gpdf07:33
jk-or07:33
jk-kpdf filename.pdf07:33
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jesspherwhen i type xpdf it will say command not found07:33
jk-then xpdf isn't installed07:33
jk-sudo apt-get install xpdf07:34
Ignite_although, kpdf is much more integrated with KDE07:34
kanaand you cn install acroread too07:34
Ignite_yes but its slow as hell and proprietary :P07:34
jk-yeah, if you're using kubuntu, try kpdf instead07:35
kanaIgnite_: agree but is the best i used so far07:35
jk-Ignite_: you forgot ugly :)07:35
jesspheri want the fasted pdf file reader in ubuntu07:35
Ignite_jk-, hehe07:35
jesspherwhich one is the fastest07:35
kanajesspher: xpdf is quite light07:35
jesspheris it the best one?07:35
kanadefine best07:35
Ignite_and with kpdf you can view the documents in konqueror whilst browsing the web so.. :P07:35
jesspherthe fastest one that can read pdf files07:36
jk-jesspher: try them all and then decide which one is the best for you07:36
Ignite_or07:36
Ignite_look at screenshots etc..07:36
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jesspherthanks for your answers07:37
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kanajesspher: i do lots of pdf presentations for me acroread was the best in terms of resources and speed07:37
Ignite_jesspher, http://kpdf.kde.org/screenshots.php07:37
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jessphercan i install KPDF by using the terminal?07:39
Ignite_yes07:39
Ignite_sudo apt-get install kpdf07:39
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Ignite_or, K Menu -> Add/Remove07:39
Ignite_and you can install it with the GUI :)07:39
nixboxhow to search the apt repository?07:40
jesspherthanks ignite07:40
jk-nixbox:  apt-cache search07:40
Ignite_nixbox, or use the GUI, K Menu -> Add/Remove07:41
nixboxIgnite_,  that doesn't list all the packages for some weird reason07:41
nixboxwhats the package for mplayer firefox plugin?07:42
Ignite_nixbox, tick the box "Show unsupported software"07:42
nixboxIgnite_,  i have done that07:42
Ignite_and changed the category to "All"?07:42
nixboxIgnite_,  even selected "Any suite" as well07:42
Ignite_mozilla-mplayer is the package IIRC07:42
Ignite_weird07:42
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apeman2020hello all!~07:43
Ignite_hello07:43
MilhousePunkRockIs setting up an Intel 2200 WLAN card "painless" in Kubuntu?07:44
MilhousePunkRockhello apeman202007:44
MilhousePunkRockHey Ignite_!07:44
nixboxIgnite_,  ok its working, installed thanks.07:44
Ignite_hey MilhousePunkRock :D07:44
Ignite_nixbox, anytime07:44
apeman2020does anyone use enhanced builder?07:44
kanaMilhousePunkRock: no works out of the box on ubuntu. i even set it as my main network connection during installation07:45
Healot!wifi07:46
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:46
MilhousePunkRockkana: I am currently using a PC-Card with the Atheros chipset, and I am looking to replace it with a Mini-PCI card... So that's a piece of cake with the right chipset on the new card?07:46
Healotfor status of most wifi cards07:46
MilhousePunkRockThx Healot07:47
Healotrt2xxx07:47
kanaMilhousePunkRock: mine is built in07:47
Healotfsf recommended - rt 2xxx07:47
MilhousePunkRockkana: Mine will be too, I hope, in a few weeks...07:47
_rince_mrgn07:47
kanaMilhousePunkRock: i had not any troubles with it here. it is supported by the kernel and the firmware come with ubuntu07:48
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kanaMilhousePunkRock: did not need to make anyconfiguration07:48
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MilhousePunkRockkana: That tempts me to push the "Buy now"-button... :-D07:48
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kanaMilhousePunkRock: look at this link http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/07:49
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jesspherfor me acroread is the best for pdf files07:50
kanajesspher: same here :)07:50
Ignite_:(07:50
j_lugesumm, could anybody help mej07:50
j_lugesmE*07:50
j_lugesme*07:50
Ignite_hehe07:50
j_lugeshow can i unblock a site07:51
j_lugeswhich is blocked through /etc/hosts07:51
j_lugesmy brother did it07:51
j_lugesand i don't have root privilages07:51
Ignite_then maybe its blocked for a reason?07:51
kanakpdf seem to have some problems do not know why? evince is resource hog and xpdf is too primative07:51
j_lugesno07:51
j_lugeshe puts it there because he hates me07:51
Ignite_oh07:51
Ignite_you could use a proxy07:52
Ignite_possibly07:52
j_lugeshow07:52
MilhousePunkRockkana: Nice, seems to be a pretty active project. The 2200 is a popular chipset, isnt it?07:52
apeman2020anyone using   AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor07:52
Ignite_j_luges, its not a straight forward thing really, your best off searching google07:53
j_lugeshmm?07:53
Ignite_basically you need to find a public proxy server, then set your browser to tunnel traffic through it07:54
Ignite_so then your connecting to the proxy and its sending you the pages, you never actually connect to the blocked website07:54
j_lugesok cool07:54
j_lugeswhere could i find a public one07:54
Ignite_google :P07:54
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Healot#tor07:57
Ignite_he doesn't have root07:57
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draikj_luges07:59
draikdiversion07:59
draikI have a site for you07:59
diversionwait07:59
draikhttp://www.vtunnel.com07:59
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draikj_luges or diversion, go to that link. It will allow you to web surf with the vtunnel.com name08:00
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soulriderhi08:03
soulrideruhm, whast the command in the konsole to go back one directory, kind of like CD.. in DOS08:03
unix_infidelcd ..08:03
j_lugeslol08:03
soulriderwitha  space ?08:03
unix_infideltry it out and see.08:03
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Flosofthey08:03
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soulriderlol08:03
soulrideri feel so retarded....08:04
soulrideri didnt know about the space08:04
FlosoftI have no sound, although both cards are discovered :S08:04
unix_infidel!gooogle08:04
ubotuI know nothing about gooogle - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:04
unix_infidel!google08:04
ubotugoogle is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com08:04
j_luges!pie08:04
ubotuI know nothing about pie - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:04
unix_infidelsoulrider: ^^^^^^ for next time :)08:04
unix_infidellol.08:04
unix_infidelyes, that's right, you owe me some pie next time.08:04
unix_infideli dont work for free!08:04
soulriderlol08:05
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soulridercrap... java didnt insatll well08:05
soulriderinstall08:05
soulrider!java08:06
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ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository08:06
soulrider! jdk08:06
ubotuI know nothing about jdk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:06
kanasoulrider:08:06
soulrideryes08:06
unix_infidelsoulrider: why do you need the jdk08:06
kanadid you sudo update-alternatives --config java08:06
soulriderto program :P08:06
unix_infidelthe jre should be enough for whatever desktop stuff you need.08:06
kanato select your java08:06
soulriderkana: i didnt, thanks08:07
kana:)08:07
soulridergod, i feel like sucha  moron08:07
soulrideri seriously cant do shit with linux08:07
supernix  /uptime08:07
soulridercan you guys recommend a good book? :P08:07
supernixUptime: 4 days, 3 hours and 48 minutes08:07
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FlosoftI have no sound, although both cards are discovered :S08:08
soulrideri think im gonna need linux for ultra dummies08:08
j_lugesharry potter and the philosiphers stone lol08:08
Flosoftcan someone help me with that?08:08
j_lugesactually it's a boring book08:08
apeman2020soulrider_ you are in good company, if it wasnt for this community i would be lost~08:08
kanasoulrider: help.ubuntu.com and debian.org are good starters08:08
supernixSoulrider to my knowledge there are no Kubuntu books but you can get several Ubuntu books now08:08
soulrideryes, i read half of it08:08
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soulriderand it was crap :-/08:08
boogyhello08:09
supernixOne is called Beginning Ubuntu if memory serves me correctly08:09
soulriderill try and look for them08:09
apeman2020Hi boogy08:09
supernixThe other is Ubuntu Hacks08:09
supernixboth very good08:09
soulrideri mean, i dont really know anything about any linux08:09
soulriderthis is all new for me08:09
supernixand there are a butt load of books on Ubuntu comming out soon08:09
soulridercompletely new08:09
kanasoulrider: they are pretty the same with minor differences08:09
supernixOther than the books you can check out the linux docs sites08:09
soulrider:)08:09
soulrideris there any way i can do a file to run a command08:10
soulriderkind of like .bat08:10
kana!cli > soulrider08:10
soulriderthat way i can run my jars more easily08:10
supernixah yeah08:10
supernixI dont know much about shell scripting but that is what your talking about08:10
Ignite_soulrider, look up shell scripting08:10
soulriderok08:10
Ignite_heh08:10
supernixYou just setup a script and call it as you wish08:11
Ignite_:)08:11
jk-echo -e '#!/bin/bash\n\njava -jar file.jar' > run-jar; chmod 755 run-jar08:11
jk-:D08:11
Ignite_lol08:11
soulrideryay! it works08:11
Ignite_:D08:11
supernixYou can even write some commands in a text file and then chmod x the file and then just type it is when you like like ./thefile and it will run whatever you wish08:11
soulridermy minesweeper looks cool ont he linux console :P08:11
supernixUnix Power Tools is a good book on shell scripting08:12
soulrideri think im gonna go for the starter ones first08:12
soulriderfor basic linux08:12
soulrideradnt hen move on08:12
soulriderlike i gotta figure out how to make opera launch when i clcika  link instead of konqueror :P08:13
kanasoulrider: default web browser check it under kcontrol if i remember properly08:13
kanabeen a while since i last used kde :)08:14
Ignite_soulrider, k menu -> system settings -> KDE components -> Default applications -> web browser08:14
soulrideryay, woprks!08:14
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soulriderim loving this :P08:14
Ignite_:D08:14
Ignite_<308:14
soulriderlittle by ittle things satrt to work as i want them to08:14
Ignite_:)08:15
boogyplise give me repozitory (sources.list) for kubuntu08:15
soulrider!easysource08:15
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:15
soulriderthere ay go =D08:15
Ignite_:D08:15
jk-heh. neat08:15
soulriderim learning ;)08:15
Ignite_i will remember that one, i was halfway through typing the url :P08:16
soulriderwhat i need to do now, is to eb able to launch opera through katapult, i got it on my k menu abnd everything, but katapult ignores it08:16
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boogysenks08:16
Ignite_strange08:16
Ignite_tried restarting katapult?08:16
soulridererr, how do i dot hat :P08:16
Ignite_alt+space; alt+c to get the menu08:16
soulriderjust open it again08:17
Ignite_alt+space; alt+c to get the menu then you can choose "quit"08:17
soulriderooooo08:17
soulridernice08:17
Ignite_:D08:17
soulriderkatapult is wonderful08:17
soulrideroh yay, works!08:17
Ignite_:)08:17
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soulriderlets see if i installed flash correctly08:19
soulrideroh yes! i did!08:19
Ignite_:)08:19
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soulrider!eclipse08:19
ubotuI know nothing about eclipse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:19
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Ignite_:O08:19
soulriderin widnwos you gotta use your mouse, here you gotta use your keyboard a lot more08:20
soulriderand its so mcuh faster too08:20
Ignite_!eclipseide08:20
ubotuI know nothing about eclipseide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:20
Ignite_ugh08:20
jk-well, you don't *have* to08:20
Ignite_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE <-= soulrider08:20
soulriderthanks08:21
Ignite_np08:21
soulrideruhm, question08:21
soulriderif i click on a link08:21
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Ignite_?08:21
soulriderwait08:21
soulrideri think ic an fix it myself08:21
soulriderhang on08:21
Ignite_:D08:21
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soulriderok, no, couldnt08:22
soulriderif i click ona  link08:22
soulrideropera will open the page on the same tab ig to open08:22
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soulriderso if im browsing a site, it will be kind of overwritten with what i click08:22
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Ignite_hrm, i don't use opera, is there a setting in the opera preferences?08:22
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jk-soulrider: middle click?08:22
nautilusitquestion how do you use an usb mouse mine will no work.08:22
nautilusitlogitech08:23
soulridernope, middle click doesnt work08:23
Ignite_nautilusit, they usually work fine, is it exotic?08:23
soulrideri mean, it works inside opera, but not if i clcik somethign here08:23
nautilusitmedialife08:23
nautilusitmediaplay sorry08:23
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Ignite_soulrider, i have no clue on your link problem sorry08:24
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nautilusitI am new to this08:24
soulriderok08:24
nautilusitwindows no more08:24
Ignite_:D08:24
obf213hey i modded my keyboard by added keys using the command xmodmap -e08:24
Ignite_haha cool, got pictures?08:24
obf213but i have to have to enter the keys in every time i restart, anyone know how i can save this setting08:24
kananautilusit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is your best bet08:25
Ignite_nautilusit, http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9340 <-= is that it?08:25
Ignite_obf213, you could write a simple script to do it for you08:25
obf213alright how would i do that08:25
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obf213i have all the info that i want to assign the keys ive done this a few times now. im guessing a script would enter the command a log in no?08:26
obf213Ignite_: how i write a script? kate?08:27
Ignite_basically, create a new file and add "#!/bin/sh" as the first line, then after that all the commands you run to get your keys working, save it somewhere safe, then add "exec /path/to/script &" to your ~/.bash_profile file08:27
obf213ok08:27
Ignite_you should also run "chmod +x <file>" on the cript08:27
Ignite_script*08:27
Ignite_that way when you login it will all setup automatically for you :)08:28
soulridernice, i can use opera to browse the directories08:28
Ignite_:)08:28
obf213i dont know what that means Ignite_ do i type that chmod in the first line in kate or something08:28
jk-don't use exec08:28
jk-it'll stop the execution of the current script08:29
Ignite_obf213, after you have saved the file run that command on it, replace <file> with the scripts filename though08:29
jk-obf213: type it on the console08:29
Ignite_heh, i'm not big on shell scripts :P08:29
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obf213jk- if i do what you say then ido i include #!/bin/sh as the first line in the kate file08:30
jk-yep08:30
obf213ok08:31
jk-probably just easier to add your xmodmap commands directly to .bashrc08:31
soulriderdoes anyone know why my contacts in MSN see me offline all the time? im using Kopete08:31
obf213i wish i knew how to do that08:31
Ignite_i was thinking that if he made a script he could remove it at will08:32
jk-open it in an editor? :)08:32
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obf213would it just be called .bashrc08:32
draiksoulrider, quite a few people I know using MSN have that same issue08:32
obf213so sudo kate .bashrc08:32
draiksame for AIM08:32
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soulridermaybe ebcause its not the latest Kopete?08:32
soulrideri think that might eb the problem08:32
jk-obf213: you should already have a .bashrc file in your home directory08:32
Ignite_is your setting set to offline? i find that it doesn't always set you to online, but you see your contacts anyway08:32
jk-obf213: you don't need the08:32
draikthey are using windoze, that eliminates kopete08:33
jk-obf213: you don't need the 'sudo'08:33
soulrideri had that problem in windoze to08:33
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soulridertoo*08:33
obf213arlight it opened08:33
soulriderbut it was if i used an old evrsion of msn08:33
jk-soulrider: or are you marked as 'invisible' ?08:33
obf213so do ijsut add my commands then jk-08:33
jk-yep, at the end of the file08:33
soulrideri believe that probably kopete has an old protocol or something08:33
soulriderno, im marked as online08:33
Ignite_!opera > me08:34
obf213jk- can it go anywhere in my bashrc08:34
Ignite_!info opera > me08:34
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in dapper08:34
Ignite_ugh08:34
soulrideropera pwnz all :P08:35
soulriderseriously, soemtimes i think im the only one that liekd it08:35
soulriderits kidna frustrating08:35
Ignite_i prefer to keep away from proprietary software as much as possible, but thought i would give it a go08:35
obf213hey Ignite, i was told to jsut add the info to .bashrc so i opened it in kate. can the command lines go anywhere?08:35
soulriderbelieve me, youll love it08:35
Ignite_obf213, yeah08:36
soulridernintendo has it in its DS console, and it will be on Wii, the new console08:36
soulriderand if nintendo is using ti, it has to be good08:36
Ignite_yeah, i heard about that08:36
Ignite_does opera support extentions?08:36
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soulrideryes08:36
soulrideri believe it has plugins08:36
soulriderand it supports widgets too08:36
Ignite_sounds cool08:37
soulriderbut i never really needed to even look for a plugin08:37
soulriderits very complete08:37
soulriderhas built in IRC, Mail client08:37
Ignite_in firefox i would usually just install adblock and unplug, thats about it08:37
soulriderand  other useful things like notes08:37
soulriderwith opera you can block ads08:37
Ignite_i prefer kmail for my emails and xchat for IRC08:37
soulriderjust select thema dn poof, gone08:37
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Ignite_:D08:37
soulrideri was kinda skeptical about it08:37
soulriderim a bitch lol08:37
Ignite_lol08:38
soulriderand ive been using it sicne version 608:38
jk-skeptopotamus08:38
soulriderlol08:38
soulriderlol, batman is on TV, cant believe the movie is so lame08:38
Ignite_i get a horrible feeling of guilt when i use/install propriatery programs08:38
soulriderits ht eone with governator08:38
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soulriderlol08:38
soulrideri dont :P08:38
soulrideri never even payed for anythign in my life :P08:39
soulriderexcept a few games08:39
kanaIgnite_: guilt are you in a cult or something ;08:39
kana)08:39
Ignite_i've read a lot on GNU and the FSF, read about all the things and free software (as in freedom) has become my life08:39
soulriderwell, i allways used windwos08:39
os2macaloha everyone.08:40
soulriderso im not too into free software and stuff08:40
soulriderhi!08:40
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Ignite_i used to use windows08:40
Ignite_a long time ago08:40
soulriderbesides, ig to my internet connection less than 4 years ago08:40
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obf213hey jk- i added them logged of and i didnt work08:41
obf213do i need to have the # sign before each line?08:41
jk-nope08:41
soulrideroh crap, almost 4 AM08:41
Ignite_a nice feature i can't do without in firefox, is its ability to automatically do a google search for whatever you type into the address bar that isn't a URL and show the most relevant result, does opera support this? @ soulrider08:41
Ignite_lol, its 7:42am here08:41
soulrideruhm yes08:41
Ignite_ah good :)08:41
soulrideri never use it though08:42
soulrideri just type g and whatever08:42
soulriderso it googles it08:42
soulriderbut i know there is a way to just show the ebst result08:42
obf213hey jk- nvm it works thanks a ton08:42
soulriderit is possible08:42
kanaIgnite_: i used both opera is much superior :)08:42
Ignite_:)08:42
jk-obf213: no problem08:42
soulriderim gonna miss photoshop... there isnt a linux verson is there ?08:42
jk-soulrider: gimp08:43
soulrideris ti as good ?08:43
kanasoulrider: does the media player plugin work in opera?08:43
jk-err, that wasn't an insult. it's the name of a photoshop-like program08:43
jk-soulrider: better in some areas, worse in others.08:43
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soulridermedia player plugin ? like stream stuff in web sites?08:43
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kanayap08:43
jk-i think there's a plugin to make it look & feel like photoshop08:43
soulriderlol jk, i ahd heard of it before, no worries about the insults :P08:43
jk-:)08:44
soulrideryea, opera is just like any other browser08:44
soulriderjust better! :P08:44
vigilante_Anyone usin compiz with kde?08:44
kanasoulrider: the media player plugin does not work here08:44
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soulrideri neve rhad a problem streaming anything08:44
kanasoulrider: only the realplayer plugin work08:44
soulrideri could allways watch videos08:44
soulridereven if they were WMV, RM or QT08:44
kanadid you try apple movies let me get the site08:45
koshtry to watch one of those 1080i quicktime movies08:45
soulriderapple.com/trailers ?08:45
koshthey are done with some new encoding that is different08:45
kanayap08:45
soulridermy connection would die :P08:45
koshsome of the apple trailers I can watch just not the hd ones08:45
soulrideryea, i never had a problem streaming anything with opera08:45
kanasoulrider: i went to opera website they say the problem that the media player plugin had to be compiled without the gtk ext08:46
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kanasoulrider: which plugin you use08:46
soulriderwell, i just insatlled it in linux :P08:46
soulridersicne i insatlled linux like 10 hours ago lol08:46
soulriderbut in win i never ahd a problem08:47
kanasoulrider: i know under window there are no probs :)08:47
soulriderah08:48
soulriderwell, i dont really kwo under linux08:48
soulriderbut i doubt there are any problems08:48
koshactually for a long time it was easier for me to watch quicktime videos under linux then under windows08:49
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koshI have a 7.1 audio setup and earlier quicktime players would screw with mixer settings08:49
koshand it would keep resetting the mixer levels would screwed things up08:49
koshcreative actually added a setting to their sound card just to cover that problem which was to make it so that only their control applets could change the sound card settings08:50
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soulriderhow do i know where the files go when i insatlled a package?08:52
soulriderlike, i insatlled oepra, how do i know where it went ?08:52
bimberisoulrider: dpkg -L opera08:53
soulriderthanks08:54
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Ignite_soulrider, which repo did you add to install opera?08:54
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soulrideri rightcliked the file adn then hit add package08:54
soulrideror install, or something08:55
Ignite_ah, from the opera website?08:55
acojlocan someone send me /etc/default/acpi-support file?08:55
soulrideryea08:55
Ignite_ah, there is an official repo with it now08:55
soulriderwhat if i wanted to uninstall opera, how can i do that ?08:55
soulrider:O08:55
Ignite_so you can keep it upto date with everything else :P08:55
Ignite_k menu -> add/remove08:55
Ignite_or, sudo apt-get remove opera08:55
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soulrider:O that easy ?08:55
Ignite_yeah :)08:56
soulriderits almost as easy as win!08:56
Ignite_:D08:56
soulrideroh my, linux is fabulous!08:56
Ignite_easier imho08:56
Ignite_:P08:56
Ignite_<308:56
soulrider<3 indeed08:56
soulrider<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>> they work now08:56
soulriderthey didnt work before, dunno why08:56
soulridermaybe because of keyboard language08:56
Ignite_:)08:57
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soulrideruhm, can i get gimp from adept ?08:58
Ignite_should be able too08:58
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soulridergreat08:58
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soulrideri love this repository thing09:00
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soulriderin a way, everythign in linux is made for lazy people!09:00
koshwhat is better is later when you find out what it takes to keep it updated09:00
koshthink of what it takes to update all your software on windows vs clickong on the adept updater when it says there are updates09:01
koshand it can update ALL the software, not just a few things like windows can09:01
soulriderawesome!09:01
soulriderbtw, i gotta update the list f the repositories right ?09:02
soulriderlike, what they contain09:02
Ignite_soulrider, i finally found it, if you want to install opera from the repos add the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" (without the quotes) to your /etc/apt/sources.list file then run "apt-get update" (without quotes)09:02
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kanasoulrider: you do not need to reboot either after an update unless you wana run new kernel09:03
soulrideryoure gonna kill me fro asking this but, what exactly is the kernell09:03
koshsoulrider: adept updater checks every so often on its own and also when you log in09:03
kanasoulrider: so no more reboots and update and reboot and hell it took so long09:03
koshsoulrider: so it will keep itself up to date09:03
soulridercool09:03
Ignite_soulrider, linux is ther kernel, the entire os is actually called "GNU/Linux" or "GNU+Linux", linux is just a kernel, one part of the operating system, not the whole thing09:03
koshsoulrider: it tells you what software it updates, if it says kernel then you should reboot :)09:04
koshthe kernel is the base part of the os that talks to the hardware09:04
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Ignite_the*09:04
kanasoulrider: is the base on which the sys work (the interface between progs and the hardware09:04
kanakosh: lol you are always the faster typer09:05
soulriderohhh09:05
soulriderIgnite_: i can add that line from within adept right ?09:05
soulriderand instead if typing apt get... i cna hit the update button ?09:05
koshkana: that is what happens when you write software for a living09:05
Ignite_i don't think so, i presonally find adept "skimpy" compared to synaptic which you get in ubuntu, so i usually use apt from the CLI09:05
Ignite_yeah you can hit the update button09:06
Ignite_i think09:06
Ignite_:P09:06
kanakosh: or when you are lazy sleeping watching a movie and chatting like me ;)09:06
koshyou can add new repositories in adept, you can update them and also do a full upgrade09:06
koshI usually use the cli though and not any gui apps09:06
soulridercrap, i dont know what is up with my college's website, i cant access it unless i use a proxy09:07
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soulriderdont hate the gui :P09:07
koshI can use the cli faster then any gui09:07
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koshsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    will update the package list and then upgrade all installed software09:08
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koshand I can run that faster then a gui can start09:08
soulriderprobably09:08
kanakosh: dist-upgrade only for upgrading the disto09:08
Ignite_i like the GUI, its more fun, but the CLI is a lot faster/efficient in some areas imho09:08
soulriderim still slow witht eh GUI, i  dont know what mess i can do witht he cli09:08
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kanaapt-get upgrade is the command or you loose your config files09:08
soulriderfirst ill learn the basics, thent he CLI :P09:09
Ignite_:)09:09
koshkana: I have used dist-upgrade for about 6 years now I know what it does :)09:09
Ignite_and.. opera installed... *guilt kicks in* :P09:09
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soulriderapparently gims is already insatlled, but i cant find a shortcut :(09:09
gnomefreakkana: dist-upgrade does _not_ upgrade your version of ubuntu09:09
soulriderlol09:09
koshdist-upgrade will update to the newest versions and it is capable of removing software09:10
koshupgrade won't ever remove any software09:10
kanagnomefreak: it is much more severe and i said it should be used for dist-upgrade only as it might overwrite custom config files09:10
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koshdist-upgrade should never overwrite custom config files09:10
gnomefreakkana: you cant get kernel upgrades with upgrade you need to use dist-upgrade09:10
koshsince how config files are handled is dpkg's job, dist-upgrade just decides which packages shoudl be updated09:10
kanakosh: it does here09:10
koshif you customize a config file the system should not touch it after that09:11
Ignite_heh, why don't we all end this problem and read the man pages :)09:11
jk-it'll ask you if you want the new or the old version09:11
koshIgnite_: I did read the man page09:11
Ignite_:)09:11
kanaIgnite_: cool will do that again :)09:11
soulridererr, can i add a shortcut to gimp automatically or do i have to make it manually ?09:12
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soulrideropera rocks! :P09:12
Ignite_soulrider, sometimes the K menu is a pain and doesn't update, there is a way to refresh it that i'm not sure of, you can log out and in again and it will refresh but its not all that practical09:12
koshyou would have to add the gimp shortcut yourself, however the system does add its own gimp shortcut in the menu09:13
koshit just won't add one to the desktop09:13
soulrideri had a small idea09:13
soulriderand it worked09:13
koshI don't like opera very much09:13
soulrideri opened hte config09:13
soulriderand hit save09:13
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koshgetElementById is still screwed up in opera 909:13
soulriderthat way it will update without relogging09:13
koshit confuses the name and id namespace09:13
soulridernooooo, opera rulllleeeessss **speaks in a hypnotic way**09:14
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=== Ignite_ looks at opera
soulriderthere are new kubuntu upgrades every like 1 hour :-/09:14
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koshthat is why our web based management system only support khtml and gecko based renderers, you can use any browser on the front end though09:14
Ignite_soulrider, thats only because you have only just installed it :P09:14
Ignite_well09:15
koshopera does a fairly good job on most things but gecko and khtml do have better css and js support09:15
Ignite_i don't know09:15
Ignite_i assume09:15
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Ignite_^_^09:15
soulriderIgnite_: the bar by default sucks09:15
soulridergo to options and make it appear as a popup in the bottom09:15
Ignite_i agree, this layout is making me ill09:15
soulriderthat will amke it looks nice09:15
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koshopera is nice as another renderer to test against but I do wish they would fix some of their js problems09:16
soulrideroptions > appearance and int he drop down menu click on pop-up09:16
Ignite_yeah, i don't see an option to make it permanent though09:16
koshit has been reported many times but I guess they don't care09:17
soulriderwhatd oy ou mean09:17
Ignite_soulrider, i would like the status bar to stay there09:17
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Ignite_it distracts me when it flashes about like that09:17
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soulriderit will stay there09:17
soulriderit satys there for me :-/09:17
Ignite_only whilst the page is loading09:17
soulriderahh09:17
soulriderwhy do you want it when its not loading :P09:18
Ignite_because it flashes around and distracts me09:18
Ignite_<_<09:18
soulriderlol09:18
soulriderpopper is better than static .P09:18
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soulriderfuck, i gotta stop using ":P"09:18
Ignite_lol09:19
jk-:P rocks09:19
Ignite_when something flashes like that it gives me the impression its requesting some information09:19
jk-second only to :09:20
SpAwNcrap....i just reallized that my ipod isnt mounting right....b4 i would plug it in...it would say what do u want to do...id say open in a new window....it would...now it says there was a error...any ideas?09:20
Ignite_worst thing is its propriatery so i can't add that ability :'(09:20
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kanakosh: according to this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html you should use dist-upgrade when upgrading from one release to the other. for upgradng in same release apt-get upgrade is recommended. yet the manual just state that upgrade will not remove any installed packages while dist-upgrade might09:21
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SpAwNall it says is a unknow error has occured09:24
Ignite_soulrider, what was it you did to refresh the menu?09:24
koshkana: I ran sid for a long time and still run it on many systems, dist-upgrade is right for sid09:24
koshkana: the explanation there is a pretty simple one and not quite correct09:24
soulridero went to options09:24
soulriderlike if i were toa dd a new items09:24
soulriderand just hit save09:25
soulriderso it automatically updates09:25
soulridereven if you dont make any changes09:25
Ignite_righto09:25
Ignite_thanks09:25
soulrider;)09:25
Ignite_:D09:25
kanakosh: i think i understand it know. I can now see there is no harm with dis-upgrade in same release though i still think upgrade is safer :)09:25
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jesspherdoes adding a sound card to my pc boost my pc performance?09:26
Ignite_i wonder if its possible to write a plugin for opera to add a static status bar09:26
koshupgrade won't always work09:26
koshjesspher: for playing games if the sound card can do the game effects in hardware it would boost performance09:26
soulriderIgnite_: no idea, my programming skills are still reduced to whiles, fors, ifs, arrays and lists :P09:26
koshjesspher: for playing regular audio it would boost performance if it can do multiple audio streams at a time in hardware compared to do it in hardware09:26
jk-wow, one of my pages in a quit message. :D09:26
Ignite_soulrider, hehe09:27
jesspher like how much mhz would it take away from the cpu09:27
koshjesspher: for both of those the solution is a creative labs sound card since they are supported in games and support multi open in hardware, you can get a pci audigy2 for about $4009:27
soulriderOR09:27
jk-almost none09:27
soulrideryouc an use an on board sound card09:28
koshjesspher: on any modern machine it would make almost no difference09:28
soulriderlike me :P09:28
koshhowever the dedicated sound cards mostly sound better and work a lot better at games09:28
MilhousePunkRockAfter some research on Mini-PCI WiFi cards... Will a card with a prism-chipset work fine as well?09:28
jesspher but would i cause better sound clarity?09:28
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Ademanhow do you create a *.ttf font from a *.spec font?09:29
koshI don't know of any built in sound chip that sounds as good as even something like an audigy209:29
koshhowever if you don't have fairly good speakers you won't ever notice09:29
jk-MilhousePunkRock: as long as you don't need to use WPA09:29
koshif what you have now sound good enough to do you and you are not playing windows games it probably does not matter09:29
MilhousePunkRockjk-: No WPA at all or just a lot of work to do to get it working?09:30
jk-MilhousePunkRock: none at all (with the prism54 driver) i believe09:30
MilhousePunkRockjk-: That sucks... I just changed my encryption to WPA last week... :-/09:30
jesspher what are the major companies that makes soundcards09:30
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MilhousePunkRockjesspher: The major company is Creative09:31
HealotCreative?09:31
koshcreative is the major player left09:31
koshthey crushed everyone else pretty much09:31
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koshhowever they have also tended to support about every os out there for their sound cards which is one reason they did well09:31
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Healotmost of the soundcards today use chipsets made by via, realtek, etc...09:32
SpAwNcrap my ipod still wont mount...can anyone help?09:32
koshback when os/2, linux, bsd, sco unix, beos etc it was pretty much the only card you could get which would work under all of them09:32
SpAwNdmesg says it connects fine...but kde isnt auto mounting it...and i dont know how to mount it otherwise09:32
Ignite_SpAwN, try amarok09:33
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jk-amarok's not going to help if the ipod can't mount :(09:33
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SpAwNIgnite_, what u mean....i just want to mount the ipod so a: it charges b:so i can use gtkpod to put music on it09:33
jk-SpAwN: what does it tell you when you try to mount it ?09:34
jk-SpAwN: it doens't need to be mounted to charge :)09:34
SpAwNb4 i pluged it in...it asked what i wanted to do...and auto mounted09:34
SpAwNa uknown error has occured09:34
jk-ah09:34
Ignite_amarok is like the no 1 media player out there, it supports ipods, if you run that then connect your ipod it will take care of it all for you09:34
soulriderok guysm im gonna got o ebd before my mom wakes up, finds me here and goes berserk09:34
SpAwNi just upgraded kde09:34
soulriderill see you tomorrow!!09:34
Ignite_bye soulrider09:34
soulridersee ya!09:34
SpAwNIgnite_, i prefer xmms.....but if i wanted to play off my ipod i would defianlty use amarok09:35
Ignite_<3 amarok09:35
Ignite_i haven't used xmms in years, its not being developed anymore afaik, not since 200309:35
SpAwNhttp://pastebin.ca/10804709:35
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SpAwNIgnite_, its not but i still prefer it over any other music player09:36
vigilante_anyone tried xgl+compiz on kubuntu?09:36
koshxmms is a pain in the neck, even at the double size it is tiny since it is all pixel based interface09:36
koshamarok will scale on a higher rez interface09:36
SpAwNi like the fact that xmms i small and fast09:36
jk-SpAwN: are you using kubuntu ? or ubuntu ?09:36
SpAwNnow does that mean that the ipod is /dev/sdb?09:37
SpAwNkubuntu09:37
SpAwNdapper09:37
jk-SpAwN: yep, sdb09:37
koshthe different between amarok and xmms for playing audio is < 1% cpu usage09:37
Ignite_yes09:37
jk-sdb209:37
koshat least on my systems09:37
SpAwNjk-, i could mount /dev/sdb /mount/place?09:37
jk-you could09:37
jk-mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mount/place09:37
SpAwNjk k i am gonna try it09:37
Ignite_sdb1 probably, since USB devices are usually partitioned like harddisks09:38
jk-Ignite_: sdb1 is the boot partition on an ipod09:38
Ignite_ah09:38
jk-.. i think. anyway, the music and stuff is on 2 :)09:38
kanakosh: just curious what made you swith to ubuntu from debian for right now i am just facinated with debian that i am dual booting it with ubuntu09:39
jk-SpAwN: try this:09:39
SpAwNmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,09:39
SpAwN       missing codepage or other error09:39
SpAwN:/09:39
jk-eep09:40
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jk-sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb09:40
jk-to list the partition table09:40
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koshkana: I just switched my desktop because at the time ubuntu had a newer version of kde then debian sid did09:40
SpAwN/dev/sdb1               1          10       80293+   0  Empty09:40
SpAwN/dev/sdb2              11        3648    29222235    b  W95 FAT3209:40
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koshwhen I build my new box it will probably go back to a pure debian sid box09:40
jk-oh, sorry:09:40
jk-ount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /mount/place09:40
jk-mount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /mount/place09:41
kanakosh: ok cool man09:41
jk-(missed the '2')09:41
SpAwNjk i think that worked09:41
jk-cool09:41
jk-ok, i'm off. time to head home :)09:41
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grotheskvigilante_: I'm running XGL on kubuntu.09:48
apeman2020what package do i need to install to use the MAKE command?09:49
vigilante_Does it run well? (any faster, better), I found this guide - http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=106709:49
grotheskapeman2020: build-essential09:49
apeman2020thanks !09:49
grotheskvigilante_: faster than? better than?09:52
vigilante_grothesk: I mean, faster/better(feature wise) than what we currently have in kde without compiz/xgl09:54
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grotheskThat ist an odd comparison.09:55
grotheskWhat do you compare XGL/Compiz with plain kde? There is nothing to compare.09:56
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Healotxgl/compiz on kde vs. xgl/compiz on gnome?09:57
vigilante_grothesk: what I mean, why add xgl/compiz, what is the benefit? (if any)09:57
grotheskNo real benefit.09:58
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grotheskIt just looks nice.09:58
grotheskUnd annoys me within half an hour so I have to turn it off.09:58
koshthe benefit is a long term one09:59
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koshif you run more then one monitor you would find that the gui actually has a pretty high cpu cost09:59
grotheskAt the moment it is a techdemo.09:59
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vigilante_I hear kde4 will have similar hardware acceleration features built in09:59
koshthe point of stuff like xgl/aiglx is to offload work from the cpu to the video cards09:59
koshso if you run a quad head setup and have video cards with opengl support across all 4 heads you can get a substation speed up by offloading work to the video cards09:59
vigilante_ic10:00
vigilante_I will wait for kde410:00
grotheskSo at the moment it is no 'must have'.10:01
vigilante_I am frustrated now because SMARTpm is not downloading packages, even though it finds them in the list10:01
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vigilante_Anyone else using SMARTpm here?10:05
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Healot!find smartpm10:06
ubotuFound: smartpm10:06
Healot!info smartpm10:07
ubotusmartpm: An alternative package manager that works with dpkg/rpm. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.41-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 397 kB, installed size 2148 kB10:07
Healotuniverse >> enable this section for dapper repos yet?10:12
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krautmoin10:12
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fatihtesting ... testing ...10:13
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kanacya all10:19
kanakosh: take care my friend10:19
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vigilante_Cany someone direct me to help with setting up auto-identify in Konversation for freenode?10:25
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MilhousePunkRockvigilante_: Are you registered already?10:28
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vigilante_yes, as vigilante, but got disconnected, and reconnected as vigilante_10:29
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MilhousePunkRockIf so, hit F810:29
vigilante_ok, then what10:29
MilhousePunkRockEnter "NickServ" into the "Service" field10:29
MilhousePunkRockAnd your PW for Password10:29
vigilante_ok, then disconnect and try reconnecting?10:30
MilhousePunkRock!ghost10:30
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>10:30
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MilhousePunkRockWith that command, you can "kill the ghost", vigilante_10:30
MilhousePunkRockAfter that, you can reconnect without the _10:30
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vigilante_MilhousePunkRock: it tells me password incorrect, even though that same password got me on earlier in the evening10:31
MilhousePunkRockvigilante_: Caps lock on, maybe?10:32
vigilante_nope :(10:32
MilhousePunkRockvigilante_: Right, you do see the PW as plain text... Maybe vigilante without the _ ist not there anymore as a ghost...10:32
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vigilante_ok10:33
vigilante_MilhousePunkRock: thats lame, should tell me that instead of wrong password... lol10:34
vigilante_I will log off and back on10:34
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MilhousePunkRockWB vigilante_ with _ :-/10:37
vigilante_MilhousePunkRock: thx, yeah, didn't work :(10:37
MilhousePunkRockDid it tell you "nick already in use, trying vigilante_"?10:37
vigilante_yes10:38
MilhousePunkRockThen I don't know more... :-/10:39
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Hawkwindvigilante_: What's the issue you're having ?10:42
vigilante_Hawkwind: I logged on a few hours ago as vigilante with recognized indent/pass, then lost connection, tried logging back on and get incorrect pass message, and cant kill ghost10:45
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Hawkwindvigilante_: Do you not have the nicks linked to each other ?10:51
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vigilante_Hawkwind: nope... I am talking to a freenode admin now, hope will fix :)10:52
HawkwindYou should have the nicks linked, it would make life a lot easier10:52
vigilante_I will try to do that next time I get on with it, and also register an email on it10:53
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intelikeywhat kind of stupid error message is this ?     # mkinitrd10:54
intelikeyReading package lists... Done10:54
intelikeyBuilding dependency tree... Done10:54
intelikeyE: Couldn't find package10:54
Kabalq'] 10:55
intelikeylike what is looking for what there   ?10:55
intelikeyi used to think linux error messages were pretty useful   looks like i was mistaken10:58
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: FLOOD ALERT!10:58
MilhousePunkRock;-)10:58
KabalCan somebody identify this problem?10:59
KabalKubuntu 6.06 LiveCD booted & installed a couple of times.. fine np..10:59
KabalNow my desktop is next.. booted the cd and it hangs by: "mounting root file system".. nothing happens.?10:59
KabalNow what?10:59
KabalI've got latest bios (Asus P4 P800 E Deluxe) and only one PATA 80GB drive and CD-ROM drive connected.10:59
intelikeythree lines in a non-active channel does not a flood make.10:59
Kabalas it won't boot.. I can not install kubuntu :(11:00
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HawkwindI have the same ASUS mobo and it works perfectly fine on my system11:06
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AzzcoI need to ask one thing about command lines...11:07
AegeanLinuxgi ahead Azzco ...11:07
AegeanLinuxlens: are you around?11:07
AegeanLinux*go ahead11:08
Azzcowould tar -xvsf  filename1 filename2 location exctract the two files to the location directory?11:08
AegeanLinuxlens: How did compiling with gcc-2.95 / gcc-3.3 go ?11:08
AegeanLinuxAzzco: I don't know, but I would think not.11:09
AzzcoI've got a couple of tar files that I want to extract to a specific directory11:09
AegeanLinuxAzzco: It might, try it ;)11:09
Azzcoyeah the best way to learn is from experience :)11:09
AegeanLinux:D, so please tell me how it goes ;)11:10
Healottar -xvf -C <dir to extract>11:12
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Healotfilename :011:12
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AegeanLinuxAzzco: Any luck?11:20
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MilhousePunkRockHey AegeanLinux!11:22
MilhousePunkRockHealot: What was that page with the WLAN listing again?11:22
AzzcoAegeanLinux: no it didn't work out to well...so I looked up a command guide insted and since I've allready extracted the files (wrong place though) I'll just move thme to the right place insted :)11:23
AegeanLinuxKK.11:23
AegeanLinuxHi MilhousePunkRock. How11:23
AegeanLinux's you?11:23
Healot!wifi11:24
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:24
MilhousePunkRockI'm fine, thanks11:25
AegeanLinuxcoolies11:25
AegeanLinuxHow did recording you g/f go ;) ?11:25
MilhousePunkRockAegeanLinux: You're working under high pressure the meet the release date?11:25
MilhousePunkRockAegeanLinux: I didn't ask her yet...11:25
AegeanLinuxextremely :D11:25
MilhousePunkRockThat sound thingy is pretty low on the priority list11:26
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: So you recorded her when :P11:26
AegeanLinuxSorry, MilhousePunkRock, put that last line a few lines above and it sounds right ;)11:26
MilhousePunkRocklol11:27
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Azzcodoes anyone happen to know where login manager files are located?11:30
MilhousePunkRockAzzco: Installing a new kdm theme?11:33
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Healot... locate kdmrc11:38
Flosofthey everyone11:40
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FlosoftI have got a problem ... I have no sound11:40
Flosoftbut the system recognised my 2 soundcards :S11:40
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JohnFluxFlosoft: run kmix11:43
JohnFluxFlosoft: does it see the two soundcards11:43
Flosoftyes11:43
JohnFluxFlosoft: is the volume up ? :-)11:43
Flosoftyes ;)11:43
JohnFluxcheck neither are on mute11:43
Flosoftnope11:43
JohnFluxit sounds stupid, but for alsa by default mutes them :( :(11:43
Flosofthmm11:43
Flosoftwell they aren't11:43
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Flosoftmaybe some soundserver issues?11:46
Healot"sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"11:47
Healotreocnfigure the cards, choose auto for sound output, done :-11:47
Flosoftthere was no auto11:48
Flosoftonly OSS and ALSA11:48
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Healotalsa, or salsa then :)11:49
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Flosoftthat is what I selected11:50
Flosoftstill no sound11:50
JohnFluxFlosoft: turn the speakers on :P11:50
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FlosoftJohnFlux: Done11:51
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bbwHi there11:52
FlosoftBut they were on before ;)11:52
bbwI have a problem with uploading my webpage and there must be a firewall in kbuntu can't find it (linuxNebwie)11:52
Flosoftso still no go ;)11:52
Flosoftbbw: normally there is no firewall in kubuntu11:53
HealotFlosoft: there is always a firewall in all GNU/Linux distro, just turned-off by default :-11:54
FlosoftHealot: yeah ... ipsec right?11:55
FlosoftHealot: but same thing ... if it is turned off .... :p11:55
Healotnot ipsec, iptable, welcome to Linux world :)11:56
bbwooh did now that11:56
bbwis there a ftp upload program for linux11:56
bbwmaby with program that it will work11:56
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Flosoftkonqueror11:56
Healotwell, it is turned on, but there is no filtering rule by default, hoho11:56
JohnFluxHealot: "turned on" doesn't mean anything11:56
bbwhow do i shut it down11:56
JohnFluxyou don't11:57
JohnFluxthere's nothing to shut down11:57
JohnFluxi really hate the word "firewall" :(11:57
Healotit is always there...11:57
JohnFluxpeople get the wrong idea about it11:57
bbwwhy can i not upload11:57
Healotjust no filtering rules...11:57
JohnFluxbbw: do:   iptables -L11:57
Healotmeaning, all traffic in-out will not be filtered11:57
JohnFluxbbw: that will show any filtering11:58
Healotthe filter tables are there, but no filter rule...11:58
bbwiptables -l do i do that in terminal11:58
JohnFlux-L11:58
JohnFluxyes in a terminal do:  iptables -L11:58
anne_hi. Can anyone look my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/9951 . I need vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-26 but "sudo apt-get update"  won't find it. thx !11:59
Healot-L << exactly11:59
JohnFlux!vmware11:59
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare11:59
JohnFluxanne_: ^^11:59
HealotJohnFlux shall be spelled as "JohnFlux"11:59
bbwjohnFlux i get permision deniet11:59
JohnFluxbbw: sudo iptables -L12:00
Healotsudo, prepend sudo12:00
bbwFATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted12:00
bbwiptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)12:00
bbwPerhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.12:00
bbwbbw@bbw-desktop:~$ iptables -L12:00
bbwFATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted12:00
bbwiptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)12:00
bbwPerhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.12:00
Healotsudo!12:00
Healot!sudo12:00
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:00
anne_yes i know but can anyone check my sources.list please ? i use kubuntu and can't enable repos like in ubuntu...12:00
JohnFluxbbw: run:   sudo iptables -L12:00
bbwChain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)12:01
bbwtarget     prot opt source               destination12:01
bbwChain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)12:01
bbwtarget     prot opt source               destination12:01
bbwChain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)12:01
bbwtarget     prot opt source               destination12:01
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JohnFluxokay good12:01
JohnFluxbbw: you see how they all say ACCEPT12:01
Flosoftanne_: just use vi and edit: /etc/apt/sources.list as root12:01
JohnFluxbbw: and there's no rules there12:01
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bbwok12:01
bbwJohnflux i will try again to upload12:01
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anne_Flosoft: where can i find the lines to add ?12:01
Flosoftwell ... just enable repos12:02
Flosoftthere are already some additionall lines in there ... just not active12:02
JohnFluxFlosoft: which ones?12:02
Flosoftsimply remove the # infront of them12:02
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JohnFluxshe's already enabled them all12:02
Flosoftow12:03
JohnFluxanne_: you did do:  apt-get update   right?12:03
anne_JohnFlux: yes. Btw sorry to disappoint you all i'm a guy configuring his sister's pc :)12:03
JohnFluxanne_: stupid irc ;-)12:03
anne_:/12:04
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JohnFluxanne_:  did you follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare12:05
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anne_JohnFlux: nope vmware is in the repos12:06
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anne_i just need to make sure all the right repos are enabled...i have the feeling some are missing...12:07
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eamon!resolution12:14
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:14
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ricardohi...i have question here....12:28
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ricardoi have a vista partition and a kubutnu partition....dual boot using grub....is there any way to resize partitions without affecting integrity? also what happens if I reinstall xp over vista, which bootloader will take control?12:30
AegeanLinuxricardo: it would be niced to ask it ;)12:30
AegeanLinuxricardo: not that I know of, GRUB will stiull be the main man ;)12:30
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ricardoAegeanLinux: thanks..i've heard stories of win taking control (the empire counter attacks ;oP)12:33
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acojlo_how to change lost password here on irc?12:33
MilhousePunkRockricardo: AFAIK Windows overwrites the MBR during the installation12:33
AegeanLinuxricardo: No, Microsoft changed that in XP12:33
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: Oh, OK then. It's possible - I have never needed to do it myself ;)12:34
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: But I heard on Technet That XP stopped doing it.12:34
MilhousePunkRockCould be, I have never been in that situation...12:35
ricardolucky you...12:35
ricardoMilhousePunkRock:12:35
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Martijn81AegeanLinux: no xp does it too12:41
AegeanLinuxMartijn81: Dang.12:41
AegeanLinuxMartijn81: Bloody MS. Why can't they be like everyone else and have "that" option to not write to MBR.12:42
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Ace2005Hi AegeanLinux12:43
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AegeanLinuxHey Ace2007!12:43
Martijn81AegeanLinux: "divide and dominate"12:44
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eamonI'm trying to install amarok 1.4.1  from these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php , no errors are given but my amarok version is still 1.3.9, any ideas guys?12:44
Ace2007Can't you somehow protect the MBR?12:44
AegeanLinuxMartijn81: "I don't get it"12:44
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ricardoMartijn81: what do you mena by "xp does it too"?12:44
AegeanLinuxAce2007: You can back it up, yes12:45
MilhousePunkRockAce2007: AFAIK you can... Damn, AegeanLinux was faster12:45
grothesk_eamon: What does 'apt-cache policy amarok' tell you?12:45
Martijn81ricardo: overwriting the MBR on installation12:45
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: Sorry man. I hate when other people are faster then me :D12:45
eamongrothesk_: Installed: 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 Candidate: 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu412:46
AegeanLinuxMilhousePunkRock: YAY! I was fater than someone else ;)12:46
eamonlol @ typo12:46
grothesk_eamon: Than you did NOT change your sources.list.12:46
grothesk_Or you did no 'sudo apt-get update'12:46
Ace2007AegeanLinux: Thanks, but what software could i use?12:46
AegeanLinuxAce2007: Google is your friend.12:47
Ace2007AegeanLinux: Oh yea sometimes you tend to forget12:47
eamongrothesk_: I put this line into my sources.list "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main"12:47
AegeanLinuxAce2007: Sorry to be a smart arse, how ever, experience = knowledge, and I don't realy know, so once you get the knowledge, share it with me :P12:47
ricardoMartijn81: so it is not safe to reinstall xp?12:47
AegeanLinux*really12:47
Martijn81Ace2007: you can backup your MBR with dd, but you have to be absolutely sure that you don't mess with the partition table (last 66 bytes in mbr)12:48
AegeanLinuxThanks Martijn8112:48
ricardoMartijn81: what should i do if i needed a clean reinstall of xp (dont wanna touch kubuntu though)12:48
Ace2007Martijn81: So i guess it'd be better to get a grub install disk instead12:48
Ace2007eamon: I installed it fine from the instructions but amarok-arts seems to be old so it can't be installed12:49
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eamonI got it working (",)12:49
grothesk_Sure it can be installed. I did so.12:49
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Ace2007eamon: So what did you do?12:49
eamonapt-get update12:50
eamon:)12:50
Ace2007:)12:50
grothesk_-_-12:50
eamonlol12:50
anne_hi. i've installed vmware-player and got my "My_Virtual_Machine.vmx" file and then i'm told to double-click it to launch the install but it opens Kate instead ! any idea ?12:50
grothesk_eamon: I knew it: [12:48]  <grothesk_> Or you did no 'sudo apt-get update'12:51
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Ace2007so run vmplayer12:51
anne_and do i need to restart my comp ? i've installed from the binaries ?12:51
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anne_Ace2007: ok12:51
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Godrin_Anybody knows of an ftp-client, that's able to continue uploads?12:52
Flosoftwhat do I need for MP3support in AMAROK?12:52
Flosoftkget?12:52
Ace2007anne_: or in konqueror go to Settings > Konfigure Konqueror > File Associations and then look for vmx and if its not there create a new entry to vmx12:52
txuslook at faqs in kubuntu home page12:52
anne_Ace2007: yes it works thx !12:52
Godrin_Flosoft: kget is for download only.12:54
Flosoftow12:55
AegeanLinuxFlosoft: xine-extracodecs or something like that12:55
AegeanLinuxFlosoft: just search in adept for xine12:55
Martijn81ricardo: it's hard to explain in irc, because if you dont get it right you will break the partition table (i can make a small paste-bin explanation if you want though)12:55
AegeanLinuxand make sure you have all the xine- packages. :D12:55
FlosoftAegeanLinux: can't find them :S12:57
Ace2007Does compiz work with kde's multiple desktops yet?12:57
AegeanLinuxit might be called xinelib12:57
Godrin_Flosoft:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:57
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ricardoMartijn81: THANKS!! that would be great!12:57
Ace2007OR can it switch to the next desktop when you get to the left or right edge of the current desktop? I just love this feature of KDE12:58
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Healot!info libxine-extracodecs12:59
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB12:59
deehi.. i m newbie on ubuntu.. i have an existing ubuntu server installation 6.06 ... & now i have kubuntu iso downloaded... what all i have to do to upgrade to KDE ?12:59
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Ace2007Godrin: If you're still after an ftp client go to linucsoft.cz/en and find and ftp client, and try searching synaptic/adept for it and install it01:00
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root__Hi all01:00
AegeanLinuxG'day root__01:00
deewud an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. work.. ? & what entry do i add in the repo list ?01:00
Ace2007dee:  apt-get insatll kubuntu-desktop you need an internet connection and it might take a while01:01
hussamRiddell: hi, edgy will have oxygen icon theme?01:01
Ace2007dee:  WOOPS! apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:01
FlosoftAegeanLinux: In what repository are they? I can't find them?01:01
AegeanLinuxin multiverse I think its called01:01
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deebut.. i have its ISO... so i can add something in the repository list .. to do it locally..01:02
GodrinAce2007: thanks, but I've already tried a whole bunch of them. but non of them seem to support continuation of broken uploads, when I have only anonymous access (ftp.berlios.de)01:02
intelikeyQ.  what is the mouse protocol in xorg.conf  for regular ps2 ?01:02
Healot"apt-cdrom add", insert CD, then scan01:02
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intelikeygodrin  wput ?01:04
acojlopeople, how to speed up boot time?01:04
intelikeynobody ?01:05
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Ace2007acojlo: safe way would be to stop services you don't need and the slightly dangerous way would INITNG, you can find info on both ways in the ubuntu forums01:05
intelikeyacojlo stop loading the unused crap and scanning the static things...01:05
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intelikeyalso speeds boot time considerable to roll your own kernel so you dont need an initramfs.01:07
acojlohow to stop scaning for static things?01:07
intelikeyor at least make an initramfs that only does the needed things...01:08
acojloacctualy I think my initramfs only needs DSDT.aml01:08
FlosoftAegeanLinux: here is my sources.list: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yzRqKI30.html01:08
intelikeyacojlo nope.  it need disk drivers and fs drivers   neither are in the defult kernels01:09
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gatekeeperacojlo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=faster+bootup01:09
Emesshow well does kubuntu run gnome apps?01:09
Tm_TEmess: well01:10
acojlook, I understand - I was compiling for myself but it was with built in drivers01:10
intelikeyas well as ubuntu does  :)01:10
Emessso i can run something liek gnome dock in kde? sweet01:10
Tm_TEmess: can or can't some things are more special than others01:10
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Emessmmm se i tried KXdocker but it wouldnt do what i wanted, and superkaramba just crashes01:11
AegeanLinuxFlosoft: you have the right repo's01:11
Emessim just looking for a simple dock that shows me some programs i want and which oens are open by a little arrow like in osx, like the RKLauncher for windows, know any?01:11
intelikeyso can anyone at least point me at a doc  where the mouse protocol syntax is listed  for xorg.conf ???01:12
FlosoftAegeanLinux: but I can't find w32 codecs and the other one?01:12
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intelikey"ps2"  doesn't seem to be a recognized protocol in xorg.01:12
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AegeanLinuxwget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb01:13
AegeanLinuxsudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb01:13
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intelikey-c is continue   only useful on resuming a failed/interupted dl.01:14
Riddellhussam: no01:14
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ricardoI have a problem when tryon to get to "Disk 'Filesystems"01:18
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ricardoi get: "Disk & Filesystem could not be loaded"01:18
acojlowhat would happend if I move "kdm" from level 2 to "S" level ?01:18
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ricardoit says it is problably due to orphaned control modules during last kde upgrade or old third party modules lying around....01:19
ricardowhat should i do?01:19
cyber_brain_mfkgwhat file should I edit to change command for extra keys???01:19
anne_hello again. do you know where vmware will install the os ? (on linux that is)01:20
deeif i unzip the ISO of kubuntu in a DIR... then which tool to use.. to see what all packages are ther and install the desired ones ?01:21
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FlosoftAegeanLinux: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iGL9k26.html ... if I try to install mp3 support01:22
AegeanLinuxsoz Flosoft, you have to ask someone else.01:23
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AegeanLinuxI am not the apt kin01:23
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gatekeeperFlosoft, what is the problem?01:23
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Flosofthttp://rafb.net/paste/results/5iGL9k26.html01:23
_rince_re01:23
tidiman07Hello01:23
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MilhousePunkRockHello tidiman0701:24
tidiman07I have a problem, anybody has time to help me?01:24
MilhousePunkRocktidiman07: Go ahead!01:24
ricardoanybody?01:24
gatekeeperFlosoft, you don't have the correct repos enabled: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories01:25
gatekeeper!repos > Flosoft01:25
tidiman07I have kubuntu installed, and wanted to get ubuntu-desktop off the cd, but it wont install01:25
Flosoftgatekeeper: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yzRqKI30.html01:25
Flosoftthat is my repo list01:26
eamonWhere can I get a precompiled deb of  xine-lib 1.1.2?01:26
Healotdeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe01:27
Healotadd multiverse next to it01:27
eamonright. And you're sure it has that *specific* version?01:27
Healotdeb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe01:27
Healotand there tooo...01:27
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Martijn81ricardo: give me ten minutes ok? I need to put good ground information in ti01:28
Martijn81it01:28
tidiman07Is it possible to install ubuntu-desktop to kde from cd?01:28
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Flosoftth :D01:28
Flosoft*thx :D01:29
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gatekeeperFlosoft, not all have multiverse enabled, I would replace it with the url I gave you, add your extra amarok at the bottom, and comment out non-free as they no longer exists, read the PM of the bot on the repos01:29
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eamonHealot: "E: Couldn't find package xine-lib"01:32
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Healotoh01:32
Healotdude01:32
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs01:33
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB01:33
AegeanLinuxbrb01:33
eamon"Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2" <-- that's not the version I want. It cant play FLAC files. Only 1.1.2 can play FLAC01:34
eamonThat's why I need that specific version.01:35
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Healot!find flac01:35
ubotuFound: flac, libflac++-dev, libflac++5c2, libflac-dev, libflac7 (and 12 others)01:35
Healot!info flac01:36
ubotuflac: Free Lossless Audio Codec - command line tools. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 122 kB, installed size 332 kB01:36
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acojlocan someone send me his acpi-support file? Reinstall of this package does not create the file in /etc/default01:37
eamon"command line tools" - But I need to play it in amarok. Perhaps when the next version comes out of beta it'll have flac support01:37
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Flosoftgatekeeper: I think this is the optimal config: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CXBJJS40.html01:38
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Flosoftgatekeeper: or is there something else?01:38
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goublinhi!01:38
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eamonyo b-atch01:39
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goublinthere are someone who know how to install splashy at kubuntu dapper?01:39
eamonapt-get install splashy?01:39
goublini've a dependences problem01:39
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goublinkubuntu try to uninstall kubuntu-desktop when I do "apt-get install splashy"01:40
goublinbecause kubuntu-desktop is associated with usplash, and usplash and splashy can't live together01:41
goublin:?01:42
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gatekeeperFlosoft, line 1 & 4 duplicates, comment out with # at the begining lines 46, 4701:46
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grothesk_goublin: Where is the problem? kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage.01:49
Flosoftgatekeeper: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TKuuNX39.html01:49
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acojlohow to reinstall a package from the terminal window?01:50
Neo_hi all01:50
Neo_i have a prob in my sound card soundMax01:51
Neo_can some one help me01:51
taotao^offlineacojlo: sudo aptitude reinstall <software package>01:52
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gatekeeperFlosoft, you have remove the duplicates, deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted, was commented out anyway, only one needed removing and the non-free still not commented out lines 43, and 4401:53
gatekeeper!pastebin > gatekeeper01:55
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Flosoftwell they aren't duplicates ... and why shouldn't I keep non-free?01:55
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cerdensalve02:00
cerdensi parla italiano?02:00
cerdenWho speak inglish?02:00
bimberi!it02:01
gatekeeperFlosoft, non-free don't exist anymore, try this for size: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1929502:01
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:01
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cerdenok thanks02:01
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Flosoftgatekeeper: what is the problem with the PLF ones?02:04
gatekeeperFlosoft, don't exist anymore, uncomment if you don't believe me02:05
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Healotnon-free > multiverse02:05
Flosoftah k02:05
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kbrooksgatekeeper: what url doesnt exist?02:06
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gatekeeperkbrooks,  PLF REPOSITORY see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1929502:07
kbrooksgatekeeper: i asked for the specific URL02:07
kbrooks#deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free02:08
kbrooksWRONG02:08
kbrooks#deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free02:08
kbrooksRIGHT02:08
kbrooksand uncomment that02:08
kbrooksFlosoft: See above.02:09
kbrooksgatekeeper: See above as well.02:09
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Neo_can some one help me to find a solution for my sound laptop02:09
gatekeeperkbrooks, cool news to me thanx kbrooks :-)02:09
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Neo_i juste install kubuntu in my laptop and i dont have a sound02:10
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Ace2007Hi all i'm writing a little script, how do i ask it to check if a file exsists and if it does run this command and if not exit? i just opened kwrite and i'm just tying the commands i'd type into konsole02:14
gatekeeperkbrooks, thought it was a dead duck having to get w32codecs from wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb02:14
gatekeeperkbrooks, thanx for the correction :-)02:15
kbrooksgatekeeper: thats a dead duck methinks and gives you a index.html02:15
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kbrooksAce2007: not hard.02:15
Ace2007kbrooks: YAY so how do i do it?02:15
kbrooksif [ -f /path/to/f ] ; then runcommand; else exit 1; fi02:15
kbrooksAce2007: tested, works02:16
Dasnipa`indeed that does work02:16
kbrooksDasnipa`: umm, i tested it02:16
Ace2007Thanks, i'll wait for the script to finish first, its just a script to grab firefox from CVS and compile it02:16
kbrooksno need to test it a million times02:16
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Ace2007um kbrooks it closes konsole if the file is not there, how do i make the script stop but not exit konsole?02:21
kbrooksAce2007: um, write the script in a file02:22
kbrooksAce2007: of course it closes konsole if you type "exit".02:22
kbrooksin a konsole02:22
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Ace2007Oh ok02:23
Ace2007thankyou02:23
kbrooksAce2007: the shell exits, and konsole exits in response02:23
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Ace2007Whats a shell?02:24
Dasnipa`Ace2007, you need to chmod +x the file you put the script in.02:24
kbrooksbash, csh, etc - the program that asks for input02:24
kbrooksDasnipa`: not if he doesnt have  a #!/bin/bash02:25
Dasnipa`ahh true02:25
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kbrooksAce2007: bash stands for "bourne again shell"02:25
kbrooksAce2007: there?02:26
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Ace2007Dasnipa`: I know i already made half the file but i need to make sure that first of all that client.mk is there, if it is then the script has to do an update, then check to see if ./configure worked and if makefile isn't there it exits, if its there it compiles, if that works it runs checkinstall -D to make a deb and installs it02:27
Ace2007yea i am02:28
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Ace2007can kopete use IRC?02:28
Hexidigital_how do i add items to session startup?02:29
kbrooksAce2007: yes, but i strongly recommend you use konverstation02:29
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Ace2007Hexidigital_: you can put stuff in ~/.kde/Autostart02:29
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Hexidigital_thx Ace200702:29
Dasnipa`Ace2007, cool. pretty handy.02:30
AegeanLinuxlens: you 'wake ?02:30
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Emesshow do i get vmware to boot my windows installation?02:30
Ace2007Dasnipa`: Yea i'll just change it for different apps so that i don't have to keep using CVS all the time02:31
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Hexidigital_Ace2007::  sorry, but i want to add app "kooldock" to startup... do i have to create a file to do that?02:31
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Ace2007Hexidigital_: Oh i know the best thing for you wait a sec02:32
Hexidigital_Ace2007::  :)02:32
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Hexidigital_morn Hobbsee02:33
Hobbseehi Hexidigital_02:34
Ace2007Hexidigital_: Install this and it will create a new section in kcontrol > kde components > autostart, then you can add apps, commands whatever therehttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3503802:34
Ace2007http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3503802:34
Ace2007Oh and if you want to compile it from source: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3251702:35
Hexidigital_thx Ace2007  much apprciated02:35
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Emessis it possible to make a vmx from ym exhisting windows isntall?02:35
Emessanyone?02:35
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_pedroHello everyone02:36
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_pedroI recently updated from Kubuntu breezy to dapper02:37
Ace2007Hi02:37
_pedroand some packages were installed but I don't need them02:37
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_pedrowhen I try to uninstall them with aptitude it want to uninstall kubuntu-desktop too02:37
_pedrois that a necesary package or can I uninstall it without problems?02:38
Ace2007its fine to uninstall kubuntu-desktop02:38
_pedrois it? what is its finality then?02:38
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Martijn81ricardo: this there?02:39
Martijn81ricardo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1929802:39
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Martijn81(other people please comment if something if wrong)02:39
_Shade_hi there02:39
ricardoMartijn81: thanks! i thought u wre gone!02:39
grothesk__pedro: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage containing several kde-packages. So when uninstalling dependent packages, kubuntu-desktop will also be uninstalled02:39
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_pedrook02:39
Martijn81no, i had more stuff todo ;(02:39
_pedrook, so I can uninstall it02:40
Ace2007yes02:40
_pedrothanks very much02:40
_Shade_how do i export java path so as to make other applications 'see' it's installation path ?02:40
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_pedrowhen I try to do that, it says to me that it is goint to remove 90 packages!!02:42
_pedrohow can I solve that?02:42
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grothesk__pedro: So what are you going to deinstall?02:43
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_pedroktorrent02:43
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_pedrothat depends from kubuntu-desktop02:43
_pedroand the solution that aptitude offers is to uninstall 90 packages02:44
grothesk_Than do it step-by-step.02:44
grothesk_Or use dpkg...02:44
_pedrostep-by-step?02:44
Ace2007_pedro: install synaptic and then use it to remove ktorrent02:44
grothesk_Just deinstall ktorrent02:44
Ace2007grothesk_: wouldn't that remove 90 packages that should stay?02:45
grothesk_No.02:45
Ace2007i thought thats what he said02:45
_pedroBetween the 90 packages, most of them I need them02:46
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_pedroso I would like to uninstall only the ones I say02:46
_pedrobut aptitude don't let me02:46
Ace2007I use synaptic to install and remove stuff, so try it using that02:46
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grothesk_I use 'dpkg -r ktorrent' to deinstall stuff.02:47
Ace2007Oh my god i just tried that and it said:  dependency problems - not removing02:48
_pedroyes, that is true02:49
Ace2007sudo dpkg -r ktorrent ----  dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of ktorrent: -----   kubuntu-desktop depends on ktorrent.  ------   dpkg: error processing ktorrent (--remove):  -----   dependency problems - not removing02:49
Ace2007Common just try synaptic :)02:49
Ace2007install synaptic and use "kdesu synaptic" to start it, use kdesu to start every graphical app, if you use sudo on something like konqueror you could mess your system up, i remember i did02:50
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_pedrook02:51
_pedroIs it good to use synaptic -package manager for Ubuntu- in Kubuntu?02:51
czEKistahi. is there any _simple_ way to import/export menu between gnome and kde?02:51
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apol_pedro: it's meant to it02:53
apolwhy would it be bad? :S02:53
_pedrowell02:54
czEKista_pedro: yes, it is good. The only disadvantage is that it doesn't it doesn't fit to look & feel of kde02:54
_pedroI have used adept02:54
Ace2007_pedro: Its fine to use synaptic, its a GTK app, just like gimp but what can you do, its fine to use it02:54
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_pedrook02:54
Ace2007_pedro:  adpet is only used in kubuntu because its Qt based,02:54
_pedrothanks very much02:54
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nrdbHi, I have just installed skype does anyone know how to find out if the calls are direct or bounced of some elses connection?03:03
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Emessdepends if its too a landline or anotehr skype03:06
nrdbEmess: to another skype user03:07
Emessthats direct03:07
larson9999i just read an article telling how to mod a phone so you can use skype-out/in with it and save tons on your phone bill if you use lots of minutes.03:08
nrdbEmess: it can be direct to the other skypes IP addr or bounced of another computer to get there.  I would like to know what skype is doing.03:08
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Emessafaik tis direct03:09
nrdblarson9999: you could get yourself a $10 headset too.03:09
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grothesk Hi! Where may I change the language of kdm?03:10
grotheskOn one computer it is in german, on the other it is in english. Both of them running kubuntu 6.06.03:10
larson9999nrdb: yeah but this sends call to your cell wherever you are.03:10
hussamhow do I know what package installed /usr/lib/file.so ?03:10
nrdblarson9999: not sure what you are saying there03:11
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larson9999nrdb: thought you were saying i didn't need that since i could just get a headset.  was just pointing out the headset would tie me to the relative location of the pc.03:12
nrdbgrothesk: have you tried "kde menu->system settings->Regional & accesability"03:13
grothesknrdb: Shure I did.03:13
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nrdblarson9999: yes it would, I am looking at using a wireless phone connected to the computer.03:14
larson9999nrdb: yeah, the site i was referring showed how to route your calls to and from your cell phone through skype no matter where you were and use the cheaper skype minutes.03:15
nrdblarson9999: oh :) thats a different thing altogether from what I thougt you where talking about.03:17
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nrdblarson9999: do you have skype on your computer?03:17
h3sp4wnwhy not have a mess around with asterisk (much more interesting than skype)03:17
larson9999nrdb: but you have to have internet access to the phone and i suppose you'd need to use your phone a lot for it to be worthwhile.  i spend about 5 minutes a month on the phone.03:18
nrdbh3sp4wn: also much more complicated.03:18
larson9999nrdb: we used to use skype to call my wife's family in thailand but now we just use webcam to chat03:18
nrdblarson9999: audio too I suppose03:19
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larson9999nrdb: yeah03:19
nrdblarson9999: you didn't answer my question, do you have skype on your computer?03:20
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larson9999nrdb: 'we used to use skype' was my way of saying, 'not any more.'03:20
nrdblarson9999: ok, I was hopping to give you a call.  If then I could see if skype was bouncing my calls, if I knew you currect IP address.  Can't do that now can I. :(03:22
Lynourenrdb: three ifs in one sentence... confusing. What is it that you want to find out?03:23
larson9999nrdb: nope. i just used the phonebook and called someone at random to test when i first set it up:)03:23
Lynourenrdb: I have skype, just need to start it.03:23
nrdbLynoure: do you know your internet IP address?03:23
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Lynourenrdb: I'm behind a nat but I know the public ip, yep03:24
seelecan you use apt to downgrade a video driver, or will i have to downgrade the entire x package?03:24
nrdbLynoure: 202.125.28.21503:25
nrdbLynoure: skype call name "neil_dugan"03:25
Lynourenrdb: I don't think I need you ip for anything03:26
nrdbLynoure: I am going to be running ethereal to look at where the packets are going, what is your internet IP address?03:27
Lynourenrdb: --> /msg03:27
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bluesceadahi03:27
nrdbLynoure: call me.03:27
bluesceadaanyone knows how to explain a gui guy to update from breezy to dapper?03:27
bluesceadahe installed breezy by cd and now wants to update to dapper by cd03:28
Lynourenrdb: With default settings they most often go through a third party03:28
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bluesceadahe said he cant add the package sources in synaptic03:28
nrdbLynoure: I have setup a dedicated port for skype.03:28
bluesceada(he had ubuntu breezy and now uses a kubuntu cd to update to dapper..)03:28
gatekeeperbluesceada, yep install update-manager and use that03:28
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bluesceadagatekeeper: ah03:28
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gatekeeperbluesceada, he has got internet?03:29
bluesceadayeh though just isdn03:29
simarillionhas somebody of you ati radeon mobility 900003:30
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bluesceadagatekeeper: he installed update-manager.. but doesnt do what to do now03:30
Lynourenrdb: Are you getting any of my /msgs?03:30
bluesceadaan update from one ubuntu cd to the next should be as easy as: insert cd, start app from cd, stuff gets updated, finished03:31
nrdbLynoure: didn't notice till just now.03:31
gatekeeperbluesceada, if he has breezy the dialog at the top should tell hime dapper is available and there should be button to press to install it03:31
bluesceadagatekeeper: but not from cd03:31
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bluesceadawhich dialog03:32
nrdbLynoure: did you get my message03:32
kaosshi!03:32
kaossanyone from Italy?03:32
Lynourenrdb: I think you cannot send any was you are not identified to the services03:32
Lynoure!it03:32
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:32
gatekeeperbluesceada, update-manager dialog, using the internet03:32
bluesceadaah03:33
nrdbLynoure: try starting a skype chat03:33
bluesceadagatekeeper: but he has a too slow connection03:33
bluesceadahe needs to use the cd03:33
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Lynourenrdb: join /nrdb-temp03:33
gatekeeperbluesceada, from cd would need to download alternative CD not sure how this would work03:33
bluesceadagatekeeper: :(03:33
bluesceada*ubuntu still isnt as easy as it should be :/03:34
bluesceadaok...03:34
gatekeeperbluesceada, he can order it free of charge03:34
bluesceadagatekeeper: order what03:34
bluesceadahe has the cd03:34
bluesceadathat's not the problem....03:34
bluesceadadunno if it's the alternative03:35
bluesceadait's the pressed kubuntu dapper 6.06 lts03:35
fritschbluesceada: just boot from it, it only asks: install textmode?03:35
gatekeeperbluesceada, the alternative cd?03:35
fritschbluesceada: oki, thats the graphical live cd with install option03:35
bluesceadafritsch: ah .. can you boot from it and select to update from breezy??03:35
gatekeeperbluesceada, if it boots to a text installer it is, if it's a lve cd it is not03:36
fritschbluesceada: if he has breezy already installed, there is a special way03:36
simarillion has somebody of you ati radeon mobility 900003:36
fritschgatekeeper: correct03:36
bluesceadait's a live cd03:36
gatekeeperover to you fritsch :-)03:36
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fritschbluesceada: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades <- look here03:38
bluesceadathanks03:38
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fritschbluesceada: my tipp would be: save your home and reinstall a new dapper03:39
bluesceadafritsch: ew...03:40
bluesceadadunno if he wants that03:40
bluesceadaprobably not03:40
bluesceadahe is not such a geek ;-)03:40
fritschbluesceada: i did not get what he wants (was not online)03:40
bluesceadai thought *ubuntu should also be for normal people ;-)03:40
fritschbluesceada: :-)03:40
bluesceadahe is someone like that03:40
fritschbluesceada: *g* me too03:40
fritschbluesceada: ;-)03:41
bluesceadahm03:41
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gatekeeperbluesceada, how slow is his line?03:41
fritschsimarillion: what about the radeon 9000?03:41
bluesceadagatekeeper: dunno .. maybe 10kb/s or so03:41
fritschgatekeeper: he owns a kubuntu dapper cd03:41
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bluesceadait was 1-2 hours downloading 60mb03:42
fritschbluesceada: just add this one to the sources list03:42
vltHello. How can I assign a variable in a /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/* file? "FOO=bar; echo $FOO;" doesn't work here.03:42
fritschvlt: :-) nice cross posting03:42
vlt:-)03:42
fritschvlt: but i do not get your question03:42
fritschvlt: semantically03:42
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dhqi need help i want to install xserver i am rite now in bash03:43
dhqplz help03:43
fritschdhg: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg03:43
fritschdhq: or the "all over" way: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:43
dhqbut i am in bash no graphical03:43
fritschdhq: this installs all dependencies with it03:44
fritschdhq: sudo apt-get install your package03:44
fritschdhq: does not need any graphics03:44
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stevenHey, can someone help me really fast?03:45
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fritschsteven: what the problem?03:46
stevenIs there a minimize all command/button on the taskbar?03:46
ricardo_Martijn81: dude...that help was excellent!!!!!! thanks a lot...keep the good work!03:46
fritschsteven: you can try dcop03:46
abattoirsteven: there is the show desktop applet, which you can add03:46
steven<---- Noob.03:46
stevenDcop?03:46
steven:D03:46
fritschsteven: mom just looking03:47
abattoirsteven: rt. click on the 'taskbar'->Add applet->Show desktop03:47
vltfritsch: I have a konqueror servicemenu file. There's a line "exec=..." for each service entry in konqueror's  context menu. Things like "echo $(cat ... | cut ...) > /file" work fine. But "FOO=bar; echo $FOO > /file" results in an empty /file ... How can I assign variables?03:47
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fritschabattoir: hehe :-) omg, i think too geeky03:47
abattoirsteven: click on it once would minimize all windows, and show the desktop, clicking on it again would restore the windows03:47
abattoirfritsch: hehe03:47
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fritschvlt: can you give me a concrete example? or the exact file?03:48
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vlt!pastebin03:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:49
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dhqhey there seem to be a problem with my pc i the top of my screen is empty and the desktop starts 5 cm below i cant see my mouse03:49
nakeeehow do I install in expert mode using kubuntu dvd?03:49
dhqcan anyone help or will have to reinstall03:49
bluesceadadhq: laptop ?03:50
dhqyes03:50
dhqbluesceada: yes03:50
dhqit worked fine for some days then i dont know what happ03:50
bluesceadamaybe some update03:51
bluesceadawhat kind of laptop03:51
fritschvlt: i only see .desktop files in this directory03:51
bluesceadawhat kind of graphics adapter..03:51
Martijn81ricardo_: yw :)03:51
dhqintel03:51
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dhqbluesceada: intel03:51
fritschvlt: ah here:03:52
bluesceadadhq: hm sorry i dont know then, maybe look in the forums, or google03:52
fritschvlt: try Exec=sh -c "FOO=bar && echo $FOO"03:53
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Lord_Athurhi03:53
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fritschvlt: :-) forget it03:54
dek_aikdhq: are u losing your X03:54
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eeoshi there! I am trying to use skype on kubuntu 6.06 for AMD64. I have tried all the different packages, without succeeding. Anyone with expereince?03:56
vltfritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1930603:56
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vltfritsch: Line 1803:56
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xbehaveive installed xubuntu what do i need to do to install kde aswell so i can switch between the 2?03:56
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vltfritsch: I try to put the modified filename into a variable. Later I want to use it as an argument for pdftk ...03:57
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stevenOh jeez. When someone has a minute, a little assistance.03:58
slow-motionhallo03:58
stevenHallo.03:58
vltfritsch: I know I could do it that way: "pdftk ... output $(echo %f | perl ...)" but in the section [Join]  I need a little bit more scripting magic to handle multiple filenaems properly ...03:59
vlts/aem/ame03:59
gatekeeper_steven, just ask your question03:59
gatekeeper_!ask03:59
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:00
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steven!ask Deleted main menu04:00
ubotuI know nothing about ask Deleted main menu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:00
steven:(04:00
eeoshi there! I am trying to use skype on kubuntu 6.06 for AMD64. I have tried all the different packages, without succeeding. Anyone with expereince?04:00
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fritschvlt: don`t know, sorry04:02
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dhq_bluesceada: intel04:03
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xbehavesteven im not sure how relavent this is but form xubuntu chan topic Menu editor bug fixed in dapper-updates04:03
dhq_bluesceada: need help04:03
bluesceadadhq_: cant help, sorry04:03
bluesceadamaybe look at the forums :S04:03
bluesceadaand ask there04:04
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stevenWell, xbehave, I think I did it....04:04
steven:D04:04
dhq_do you have any idea what it may be04:04
stevenCleaning up the little taskbar area.04:04
bluesceadadhq_: something with the graphics driver04:04
bluesceadaor with the modes you can set for the tft04:04
dhq_hey there seem to be a problem with my pc i the top of my screen is empty and the desktop starts 5 cm below i cant see my mouse04:04
gatekeeper_eeos, no but my guess is that you would a 32bit version as you do with firefox and flash player04:04
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dhq_i can use the mouse but cant see it04:05
fritschsteven: you can reset your kde to the default settings by deleting your .kde directory (after that everything!!! from your kde settings is gone)04:05
gatekeeper_ooops install a 32 bit version04:05
dhq_|lostbyte|: you there04:05
eeosyes, but it does not run. it does not find some of the libraries.04:05
fritscheeos: what library?04:05
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fritscheeos: dpkg -S library name or apt-cache search library name04:05
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dhq_suliman: you from kuwait04:06
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dhq_any guys plz help me04:06
dek_aikdhq: xserver for intel is  xserver-xorg-driver-i740..just "sudo apt-get xserver-xorg" in terminal04:07
dek_aikdhq_: xserver for intel is  xserver-xorg-driver-i740..just "sudo apt-get xserver-xorg" in terminal04:07
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:07
fritschdek_aik: told him half an hour before ...04:07
dek_aikfritsch: yes..you did04:07
fritschdek_aik: i think, he wants to "send" us ssh connection and login04:07
fritschdek_aik: :-)04:07
dek_aikfritsch: yea...;)04:08
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roryyy48helloo...04:09
ninhertatilhi all04:09
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:10
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dhq_dek_aik: it doenst work04:10
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:10
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roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:10
fritschdhq_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg04:10
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:10
dek_aikfritsch: lost him again04:11
eeosgatekeeper: I am trying to install04:11
dhq_no im here04:11
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fritschdhq_: does this command work?04:11
Emessanyone know what would i need to open a Microsoft Publisher file?04:11
dhq_dek_aik: i get E invalid operation xserver04:11
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:11
fritschdhq_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg04:12
fritschdek_aik: missed the "install"04:12
dhq_dek_aik: fritsch i get E invalid operation xserver-xserver04:12
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:12
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fritschdhq_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg04:12
dhq_ok04:12
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:12
roryyy48plsss04:12
fritschdhq_: or if you use kubuntu and want the "whole" thing your can also just do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:13
roryyy48does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?04:13
ubuntuhello04:13
dek_aikdhq_: yes..do what fritsch told you first04:13
dhq_i did that04:13
ubuntuI'm beginin on kubuntu04:14
lensAegeanLinux: I'm awake now if your still around.04:14
KaiHanariroryyy48, please stop repeating. if someone knew they would speak of it04:14
Ace2007roryyy48: google it04:14
dek_aikdhq_: what happen with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:14
dhq_package service have no installation candidate04:14
ubuntuI hae a lot of problem with my security update04:14
Ace2007roryyy48: Then you'd have found this: http://www.thesethingsmattertome.com/2006/07/ubuntus-classroom.html04:14
fritschdhq_ hehe :-)04:14
fritschdhq_: seems something wrong with your sources.list04:14
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gatekeeper_!repos > dhq_04:14
fritschdhq_: courd you try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:15
roryyy48k04:15
roryyy4810x04:15
Giorgio(it's only a proof)04:17
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Ace2007The first one is "Introduction to Internet Relay Chat (IRC)" i wonder if its about how to use IRC, the very thing your using to get to the classroom, or maybe its how to set up an IRC server, that'd be cool04:18
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cerdacan ping sites but internet doesnt work, anyone knows anything about it??04:18
Ace2007cerda: DNS problem?04:19
cerdadont know exactly what it is :(04:19
Ace2007try ping digg.com that'll show if its dns04:19
fritschcerda: no dns problem, you could not ping something- proxy problem?04:20
vltcerda: OMFG, the internet doens't work!!! ;-))04:20
vltcerda: How are you connected?04:20
Ace2007vlt: Another computer? windows? oh the possibilities04:20
cerdaanother pc, windows =/04:20
cerdai have a d-link 502g here04:21
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vltcerda: What I wanted to ask was: Modem/ISDN/DSL/WLAN/LAN/...04:21
cerdatheres another pc with linux connect to the network and runs fine with it04:21
cerdai had a problem before about setting my network card for 10mbits on windows04:22
Giorgiohola, alguien sabe que tengo que hacer para conectarme a un canal del irc-hispano con el Konversation?04:22
vltcerda: What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" say?04:22
cerdai had windows ultin yesterday04:22
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cerdavlt ill see it, 1 sec need to get to the other room :] 04:22
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cerdait says namserver 10.1.1.104:24
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fritschcerda: am i right? you can do: ping www.cnn.com?04:25
dhqfritsch: i reconfugured my desktop04:25
Riddellgnomefreak: ping04:25
cerdafritsch yes i can04:26
dhqfritsch: still there is no mouse and the screen is 4cm down i cant see status bae04:26
fritschdhq: look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf what driver is actually used04:26
Ace2007cerda: try browsing in konqueror04:26
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fritschdhq_: it`s under section "Device"04:27
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fritschcerda: please disable all proxy servers (kde, firefox, etc.) I think that`s the problem04:28
McScruffhow can i find out what brand my hdd is04:28
fritschMcScruff: dmesg |grep -i hda04:29
McScruffty04:29
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dhqfritsch: its using the intel display only04:29
cerdafritsch how can i do that? :(04:29
gnomefreakRiddell: pong04:29
dhqfritsch: can you login my pc and check it out04:29
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fritschdhq: lol04:29
dhqfritsch: that is if you dont ming04:29
dhqfritsch: i need help thats why04:30
Riddellgnomefreak: you're using 3.5.4 on dapper right?04:30
fritschdhq: no ;-) just try sth. other04:30
gnomefreaknope04:30
gnomefreakRiddell: on edgy04:30
Riddellhmm, right04:30
dhqfritsch: whats sth04:30
Riddellgnomefreak: have you had any problems with it not respecting kubuntu-default-settings?04:30
cerdafritsch how can i turn off the proxy servers? :/04:30
gnomefreaknot yet04:30
fritschcerda: you are using konqueror to browse the web?04:31
gnomefreakRiddell: should i be?04:31
cerdakonqueror and firefox04:31
Riddellgnomefreak: I am and others are, but that's on dapper04:31
sergiusenshi there, I have a q... does kubuntu 6.06 have that problem (well kubuntu is not the problem) with partitioning that caused windowstm partition problems?04:31
fritschcerda: in firefox: Settings -> Connection Settings04:31
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gnomefreakRiddell: give me a min ill log into kde.04:32
fritschcerda: konqueror, KDE System Settings -> Connections -> Proxy04:32
fritschRiddell: Is it okay to use your 3.5.4 packages already?04:32
anne_hello. can anyone point me to a fix for the following bug: when i try to access my floppy through system:/media in konqueror it won't work then it tells me it's already mounted in /media/fd0...?04:33
Riddellfritsch: if you want to help with testing them of course04:33
fritschRiddell: last time it wanted to uninstall kdelibs-bin, so i was careful04:33
Riddellfritsch: that's ok, that package doesn't exist any more04:33
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Riddellanne_: known problem, supposidly fixed in KDE 3.5.404:34
fritschRiddell: okay, just upgrading, do I need a new hal version?04:34
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Riddellyes04:34
fritschRiddell: is it downloaded from your packages?04:35
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Riddellyes04:35
fritschRiddell: okay, i have to "dist-upgrade", only upgrade is not working (because of new package installation and romaval)04:35
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ThunderStruckRiddell: all seems fine. (assuming by default settings you mean the settings that came with it)04:36
anne_Riddell: is KDE 3.5.4 out as of now ?04:36
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Riddellanne_: no, it's in testing04:36
fritschanne_: beta packages for testing and bugreports, i think04:36
gnomefreakanne_: no not really (its in testing)04:36
anne_ok. thx04:36
Riddellgnomefreak: so e.g. the k-menu has a kubuntu image on the side?04:37
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gnomefreakthey are the same04:37
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gnomefreaknever noticed the kubuntu image being there before04:37
fritschgnomefreak: i just disabled it, because of space04:38
Riddellgnomefreak: so that's a yes?04:38
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gnomefreakRiddell: yes they are default04:38
Riddellgood good04:38
Riddelldoesn't explain why it's broken for me on dapper though04:38
fritschRiddell: wargh ;-)04:38
eeoshi there. Anyone with expereince in using skype on kubuntu 606 for amd64?04:38
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uniqRiddell: kmenu on edgy has kubuntu image on the side. fyi.04:39
fritschuniq: I think he knows ;-)04:39
Riddelluniq: thanks04:40
Riddellfritsch: more reports are good04:40
gnomefreakuniq: it does i was just looking at it ;)04:40
Riddellbut now I need reports from dapper04:40
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fritschRiddell: shel I open i private chat window?04:40
=== uniq thought gnomefreak used dapper.
Riddellfritsch: why?04:40
fritschRiddell: don want to spam :-)04:41
gnomefreakuniq: i have dapper upstairs and edgy on this pc04:41
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Riddellfritsch: use a pastebin then04:41
uniqgnomefreak: ah.. ok.. i'm just jumping into the conversation pretending to pay attention anyway. :)04:41
gnomefreak:)04:41
fritschRiddell: dist-upgrade is done without problems (just some notifications about "is removed" as requested)04:41
Riddellfritsch: restart X and let me know if it works then04:42
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fritschRiddell:  ha! happy too early04:42
fritschRiddell: errors while working on kdebase-date_4%3a ..... kdebase_bin kaudiocreator04:43
gnomefreaklol those were easy04:43
lensIs flash 9 absolutely incompatible with Konqueror?04:43
fritschyes force-overwrite seems to work04:43
gnomefreakfritsch: it says it couldnt overwrite?04:43
gnomefreakyep that would do it04:43
Riddellfritsch: what's the error?04:43
gnomefreaklinthere is no flash 9 yet04:43
lensoh ok...04:43
gnomefreakRiddell: fails to overwrite "path"04:44
fritschRiddell: yes04:44
Riddellfritsch: please pastebin the error04:44
lenshrmm, I can't get flash to work in konqueror04:44
fritschRiddell: its in german, sorry :-) but I will do04:44
gnomefreak!flash > lens04:44
gnomefreaklen please read the msg ubotu sent you there is a part for it04:44
gnomefreaknalioth_: ping04:45
nalioth_pong04:46
gnomefreakhaving him in that channel isnt that great of an idea (in -ops) he will spam the hell out of it.04:46
gnomefreakguess Seveas saw it04:47
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Seveasgnomefreak, ?04:47
fritschRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1930804:47
gnomefreakSeveas: clint04:47
nalioth_gnomefreak is sufferering from headspace and timing issues04:47
gnomefreakthats all he does is talk/spam04:47
Seveasah04:48
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Seveaswell, I'll remove all non-ops and non-regulars from time to time04:48
fritschRiddell: kdm restarted! The default splash screen is not the kubuntu anymore04:49
Riddellfritsch: thanks04:49
bbwmabay stupid question but where can i find the source list04:49
gnomefreakmine is still the default splash04:49
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fritschand! my kde button is away ;-)04:49
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gnomefreakfritsch: away? like on vacation?04:50
fritschgnomefreak: lol :-) no, i could add it again (sorry bad english)04:50
gnomefreaklol its all good04:50
fritschgnomefreak: it`s like after a debian unstable upgrade (so no problem)04:50
gnomefreakah04:51
bbwmaby stupid question but where can i find the source list (LINUX NOOB_ HELP)04:51
gnomefreakbbw: /etc/apt/sources.list04:51
bbwthanks04:51
fritschRiddell: moved .kde out of the way (because mine was very customised)04:51
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Riddellfritsch: does that fix anything?04:52
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fritschRiddell: default settings: no kubuntu splash again04:52
fritschRiddell: start button is there again, but not the known kubuntu customazations04:53
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fritschRiddell: not the kubuntu wallpaper, etc.04:53
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fritschRiddell: even the kubuntu logo is missing04:53
fritschRiddell: in the menu bar04:53
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fritschgnomefreak: it was from your old .kde directory04:53
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soulriderhi everyone04:54
gnomefreakafaik i only have one04:54
soulrider!eclipseide04:54
ubotuI know nothing about eclipseide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:54
fritschgnomefreak: try deleting .kde and restart kdm (just to be sure?)04:54
fritschgnomefreak: moving it away is alos okay?, perhaps .local also04:54
illnesshi everyone04:54
gnomefreakk hold on04:55
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gnomefreakbrb04:56
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Riddellfritsch: ok, you're seeing the same issue as I'm having04:56
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illnessi have a problem, can someone help:  I installed kubuntu and when i try to play mp3s in amarok i get no sound and it just stops playing...  I have installed the xine-xtracodecs and the normal system sounds work.  Any advice04:56
Riddellfritsch: I have no idea what the problem is04:56
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liviuxhi all What are you talking about?04:56
soulriderillness: i got the smae problem04:57
liviuxillness04:57
soulrideri cant play mp3s :S04:57
illnessk04:57
soulriderand i installed all that extra stuff04:57
fritschRiddell: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to peroperly configure your user04:57
liviuxyou need some codecs04:57
soulriderwhich ?04:57
liviuxthere is a link in the official kubuntu site04:57
liviuxwait...04:57
soulriderok04:57
illnesslike i said i tried to install some however it didnt make a diffrence04:57
soulriderbtw, guys, i downloaded adn extracted Eclipse, for writing java pps, but i dont know hwo to run it lol04:58
fritschRiddell: Looking up applications under /usr/share/applications /usr/share/applicatiuons/kde04:58
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fritschRiddell: wait he still reads .config from my home directory, ill move this away, too04:59
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liviuxgstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 have you download this pack?04:59
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soulriderwhy does it take AGES for adept to open ?05:00
soulrideror why wont it open at all ?05:00
illnessnope05:00
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illnessill try that one sec05:00
fritschRiddell: okay /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/default is not linked to /usr/share/apps/ksplash/kubuntu05:00
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sulimanhi05:00
fritschRiddell: this fixes the wrong ksplas, i think (just trying)05:00
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ThunderStruckok i still have menu and kubuntu logo in menu05:01
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fritschRiddell: mmmh the /usr/share/apps/ksplash/kubuntu not working, sorry05:01
soulridererrr, adept isnt responding :-/05:01
liviuxremember you must activate the "universe and multiverse" server from adept05:01
illnessliviux: nope didnt work either05:02
illnessor do i need to restart or something05:02
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Ace2007Hi all which repo is kmencoder in?05:03
Ace2007!kmencoder05:03
ubotuI know nothing about kmencoder - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:03
gnomefreakRiddell: the klibs are same in dapper and edgy right?05:03
Riddellgnomefreak: in theory yes05:03
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Hobbsee!info kmencoder05:04
ubotuPackage kmencoder does not exist in dapper05:04
Hobbsee!info kmencoder edgy05:04
ubotuPackage kmencoder does not exist in edgy05:04
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HobbseeAce2007: none of them, i suspect05:04
soulriderhow cna i see the processes running ?05:04
hussamRiddell: hi, I wanted to ask a question earlier but then I got disconnected. Will edgy have Oxygen icon theme?05:04
soulrideri ran adept twice and it never appeared on my screen05:04
Riddellhussam: no05:04
sulimanhow can i install nvidia without using cd-rom?05:05
hussamRiddell: ok thanks. :)05:05
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soulriderdownload latest drivers?05:05
soulriderbut i believe they are included05:05
fritschRiddell: Can I look into sth.?05:05
gnomefreaki dont see why it should be different. im thinking maybe a qt-lib is different version05:05
fritschRiddell: where is the customazation path fr the kubuntu settings?05:05
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Riddellfritsch: /etc/kderc05:05
Ace2007Hobbsee: y?05:05
fritschRiddell: okay, i`ll have a look and compare to 3.5.305:06
liviuxillness try to read this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:06
illnessk05:06
illnessthnx05:06
HobbseeAce2007: because no one has packaged it yet?05:06
gnomefreakfritsch: wouldnt a .diff be easier?05:07
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Ace2007Hobbsee: Why would no one package it? since there is no other front end for mencoder in the repos?05:07
fritschRiddell: got it!05:07
HobbseeAce2007: because there are a few billion other things waiting to be packaged too?  add it to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages05:07
gnomefreakfritsch: what is it?05:07
viktor_hi all is there anyone that can help me with drivers for a "Realtek ac'97 alc850" i have searched google for a couple hours now without results05:08
fritschRiddell: in 353 there is /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings: kde-profile05:08
fritschRiddell: in 354 there is only "share"05:08
Riddellfritsch: where?05:08
soulriderillness:  http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.0605:08
fritsch /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/05:08
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Ace2007Hobbsee: Oh i never knew there was a quere05:08
soulriderhttp://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06 sorry, i typ0d the first one05:08
Ace2007queue"05:09
gnomefreaki have it05:09
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gnomefreakfritsch: i have /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kdeprofile05:09
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fritschkde-profile?05:10
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gnomefreakfritsch: its inside the kubuntu-default-settings05:10
soulrideri need some help please, i got 5 different adept processes running, but i cant close them05:10
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gnomefreakkde-profile even05:10
fritschgnomefreak: okay have it too, i just back it up05:10
fritschgnomefreak: and copy the old ones over *g* does this make any sense?05:11
gnomefreakit still doesnt explain why mine is default and his/yours is not05:11
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gnomefreakfritsch: like you dont have the kubuntu logo inside the K menu05:11
fritschgnomefreak: did you delete the ".kde" and restarted?05:12
gnomefreakyes05:12
gnomefreakand the default took over05:12
gnomefreakand everything is fine here05:12
fritschgnomefreak: okay copied the 353 kde-profile over <- nothing :-(05:12
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gnomefreakseeing as the code didnt change for dapper-edgy i have a feeling its a qt lib that is different maybe?05:13
Lord_Athurhow can i print a document with nano?05:14
andi_hello05:14
andi_can anybody help me ?05:14
fritschgnomefreak: i think some path is hardcoded05:14
Lord_Athurwhat's the poblem andi_ ?05:14
fritschor kderc is not read correctly?05:14
gnomefreakfritsch: if the path was hardcoded i should have same issues05:14
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fritschgnomefreak: yes that`s right05:15
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fritschgnomefreak: you want to have a "dpkg -l |grep somthing?05:15
andi_I have the newest version of kubuntu.....my problem is....i cant install any programmes...in the adept manager tooo...05:15
gnomefreakfritsch: what do you want me to look for?05:15
fritschgnomefreak: i want to trace if kdm uses kderc05:16
fritschgnomefreak: i think it just "overgoes" some file05:16
Lord_Athuris there any error message andi_ ?05:16
andi_i can put it on the request install but i cant apply the requestes05:16
fritschgnomefreak: but wait i`ll do a kdm stop and a kdm start (perhaps restart does sth. other)05:16
andi_no error messages or something else.05:17
Lord_Athurdoes apt work?05:17
andi_the symbol is only to apply it is deaktivated05:17
fritschgnomefreak: i don`t have any non standart packages, despite amarok14105:18
andi_i am sorry for my bad english, but i hope you got it.05:18
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gnomefreakamarok 1.4.1 koffice 1.5.2 kde 3.5.4 is what i have05:18
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liviuxillness if  you are still problems (maybe the page wasn't correct) contact me because also I have had the same problem little long ago05:19
gnomefreakother than that i have ksmooth but that doesnt screw with default settings05:19
tony_does anyone know how to get the mp3 audio previews? i had it going before but don't know how05:19
andi_Lord?05:19
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Lord_Athurandi_, what's your native language?05:20
illnessliviux: still doesnt work05:20
illnessi already installed those packages05:20
gnomefreakbrb goes for smoke05:20
andi_My native language is german05:20
Lord_Athur:(05:20
Lord_Athurok05:20
Lord_Athurwhat do you want to mean with "the symbol is only to apply it is deaktivated"?05:21
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Lord_Athurcan't you use the command "sudo apt-get install..." on the shell?05:21
andi_the 3rd symbol of left in the adept manager is grey...so i cant click on it.05:21
illnessandi: brauchst du einen bersetzer?? ;)05:22
fritschRiddell: you want the output from kdm?05:22
liviuxhave you activate the "universe and multiverse" server from adept?05:22
andi_*gg* Illness danke frs Angebot irgendwie schaff ichs :)05:22
andi_I dont think sooo liviux05:22
illnessme? yeah...05:23
liviuxand you've download gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3?05:24
liviuxlibxine-extracodecs and akode-mpeg too?05:25
Riddellfritsch: is it useful?05:25
liviuxare nedeed only whit Kubuntu05:25
illnessnot akode05:25
liviuxtry05:25
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illnesshmm says couldnt find package05:27
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McScruff  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext  <<help pls, im trying to make vlc05:28
fritschRiddell: not really, only this:05:28
fritschdmgreet: set vars!!!!!!!!05:28
fritschQImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image05:28
fritschRiddell: wargh, sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1931105:28
dek_aikillness: its libakode2-mpeg05:28
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liviuxTry to tipe "mpeg" from adept and install the main pack05:28
liviux"libakode2-mpeg"05:29
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illnessk05:30
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Atiree05:30
illnessonly did the packages from the console so far05:30
illnessone sec05:30
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AtiLord?05:31
fritschRiddell: .xsession-errors says Inactive pixmap /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/spasl <-so it does not use the kubuntu theme05:32
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liviuxsudo apt-get install libakode2-mpeg05:32
illnessyeah already did it05:32
illnessno change05:32
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Atiillness ?05:34
AtiVllt kannst du mir helfen...05:34
chenlevyHi all05:34
Atihello chenlevy05:35
chenlevyI have problem sending mail with kmail05:35
chenlevyI have verified my smtp server, and did a manual session with it via telnet05:35
illnessAti: bin selber n00b aber was gibts05:35
chenlevyI had tried to monitor the truffic with tcpdump but I see no truffic05:36
Ati*g* Ok dann warte ich mal bis einer von den "Freaks" daist :D05:36
chenlevyHow can I debug this?05:36
dek_aikillness: try to restart sound-server-->"killall artsd" and restart amarok05:36
dek_aikillness: and make sure that you pick xine as your engine05:37
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illnessstill doesnt work05:38
illnessshould i leave the output on autodetect?05:38
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liviuxin my case he has all worked only when I have turned off relighted the computer, but I don't know....05:38
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illnessalright ill restart real quick05:39
illnessthnx cya in a sec05:39
andi_liviux ?05:39
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liviuxwhat05:41
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liviuxandi what do you want?05:41
andi_Can u help me ?05:41
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liviuxabout what?05:42
Neo_hi all05:42
Ace2007hi05:42
Neo_i have a big problem05:42
soulriderhi all05:42
Ace2007how big?05:42
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Ace2007hi05:42
andi_http://upload.aka5.de/up/Bildschirmphoto1.jpg @liviux05:42
Neo_my sound card thos'ent work05:42
andi_I cant add any programms05:42
Ace2007seen bigger05:42
andi_in the adept manager05:43
fritschRiddell: sorry can`t help you - cannot find anything :-(05:43
Ace2007well what sound card do you have?05:43
Neo_i have a soundMax05:43
Neo_in a laptop ibm T4205:43
Neo_i juste install kubuntu05:43
Riddellfritsch: it's a totaly mystery, same packages work fine in edgy05:43
Neo_but the sound thos'ent work05:43
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soulrider!soundmax05:43
ubotuI know nothing about soundmax - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:43
illnessre05:43
fritschRiddell: i just try with a totally new user05:43
chenlevyfritsch, I wanted to thank you for the help on that other day with my knoqueror problem. It tured out I had some bad memroy05:43
liviuxandi have you tried to work from konsole?05:44
andi_no i dont no how05:44
Ace2007Alsa sould support SoundMAX: http://forms.analog.com/Form_Pages/soundMax/soundMaxSupportFAQ.html#question605:44
fritschchenlevy: cool05:44
viktor_i have a realtek alc850 ac'97 how can i get all the channels (or the S/PDIF]  to work on it ???05:45
fritschRiddell: okay totally new user does not make a difference05:45
illnessk05:45
illnessit works... stupid problem05:45
liviuxwhit the shell type "sudo apt-get install" and the name of the pack you want to download05:46
dek_aikillness: ...:)05:46
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illnessi tried playing them from a windows partition and it didnt work05:46
illnessnow if i copy them to the desktop they do05:46
liviuxwow problem solved!05:46
illnessany suggestions05:46
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illnessthnx alot tho05:47
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illnessreally helpful community makes swithchin over way easier05:47
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dek_aikillness: you could set the files so that you could read/write windows part files05:47
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illnessyeah?05:48
illnesshow would i do that05:48
illnessits ntfs05:48
dabblerkubuntu told me to upgrade, but get 18 errors :05:48
dabblerErr http://za.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe librss1 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.105:48
dabbler  404 Not Found05:48
liviuxandi are you here?05:48
illnessdo i stil need to convert to fat32 or can linux write ntfs now to05:48
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dabblerwhen do the mirrors get updated ?05:49
andi_yes05:49
liviux? have you tried?05:50
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cerdacan ping sites but internet doesnt work05:50
andi_yes i tried to typ in sudo apt-get install gimp05:51
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dek_aikillness: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions yes but you can only read/play them not edit the tag for example05:51
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illnessoh well thats good enuff05:51
illnessthnx ill have a look05:51
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liviuxand it work?05:51
cerdaanyone had this problem too?05:51
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andi_no i dont think so05:53
dek_aikcerda: have you disable proxy in konq or firefox like suggested earlier?05:53
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cerdaproxy isnt enable05:53
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dek_aikcerda: and the /etc/resolv.conf? is it OK?05:55
cerdayes05:55
liviuxandi maybe you have a lock in the package manager. If you type "atp-get man" from konsole you can find the command for upgrade all the packages (very long operation).05:55
MarsRouterhi05:56
Neo_can some one help me plez05:56
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Neo_i don't fine the solution of my sound card05:56
dek_aikcerda: internet isnot working from the konsole as well?05:56
andi_no i doesn't work05:57
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cerdadek_aik can only ping05:57
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cerdakopette isnt working too05:57
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cerdadek_aik do u know how can i turn my network card to 10mbits??05:58
fritschRiddell: any hint? now i have fetched my bucket?05:59
dek_aikcerda: did you ever use proxy? sorry for insist but my similar prob solved when i shut the proxy05:59
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LeeJunFan$!@#it kopete won't log into ICQ for me - anyone else? Says my client is too old - and I'm running current SVN.05:59
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DaSkreechLeeJunFan: I downgraded to 0.11 and that seems to work for me06:00
Riddellfritsch: bucket?06:00
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dek_aikcerda: i use to do "export http_proxy=http://" in konsole to solve my proxy related prob06:01
fritschRiddell: looked it up in the dictionary, wanted to say, that i want to invest time to search06:01
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liviuxandi I'm sorry but I don't know...try to ask someone else (however it's a strange problem)06:01
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dek_aikandi_: have you enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list?06:02
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: timing is everything, I updated my trunk about 2 mins ago, joined #kopete just in time to see a revision get posted to fix it.06:02
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DaSkreechExcellent :)06:02
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yogiAnyone out there familiar w/the fetchmail?  It doesn't give an error in daemon mode, nor does it ever check for mail.06:12
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yogiCommandline: fetchmail --flush -f .fetchmailrc -d 42006:12
yogiManually executed it works flawlessly06:12
soulrider!kopete06:13
ubotukopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/06:13
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yogiI need some serious help with fetchmail, please!06:14
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Ace2007i'm trying to install kmencoder and i get: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!06:15
h3sp4wnAce2007: install kde-devel06:15
yogiSounds as if Qt isn't installed, or too old a version06:15
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andi_liviux i am sorry i had to do some stuff06:16
yogiAnyone out there help me with fetchmail?  Read man pgs... works, but not as daemon.   No errors.06:16
Ace2007h3sp4wn: kde-devel and kde-devel-extras already installed06:16
andi_i dont know i am able to enable this...06:16
andi_@andi_06:16
liviuxdon't worry06:17
fritschRiddell: which of the kde packages checks for /etc/kderc?06:17
andi_how can i enable it ?06:17
dek_aikandi_: do this in konsole "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"06:18
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Riddellfritsch: kdelibs06:19
yogi Anyone out there familiar w/the fetchmail?  It doesn't give an error in daemon mode, nor does it ever check for mail.06:19
Riddellfritsch: kstandarddirs06:19
Riddellfritsch: and kconfig*06:19
xstI have just updated my kubuntu installation and now kopete doesn't work: When I try to go online it tells me that the ICQ server thinks my client application is too old. What to do?06:19
yogi Commandline: fetchmail --flush -f .fetchmailrc -d 42006:19
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yogiManually executed it works flawlessly06:19
dek_aikandi_: comment "deb cdrom" and uncommend the lines with universe and multiverse at the end06:19
ubuntuhello people06:19
cerdadek_aik ill try turn iptables down, do u know how can i do it??06:19
soulriderhey, im looking for a bandwith monitor, somehtign like DU Meter for windows06:19
soulrideri **NEED** to have a graph on my desktop or something :P06:20
ubuntuuh.....no06:20
soulriderhi ubuntu06:20
andredxst: the protocol has changed again. it has been fixed in svn06:20
ubuntuhow do we install java on this thing?06:20
soulrideri installed it yesterday06:20
soulriderhang on06:20
xstandred: Do you know when kopete will work in kubuntu again then?06:20
andi_mhm06:21
soulriderkopete works, im using ti right now :-/06:21
dek_aikcerda: no i dont sorry, just to check you ping outside or inside your LAN?06:21
andredxst: you'll have to ask the packagers. no idea06:21
ubuntuI WANT JAVA!\06:21
xstandred: ok. How do I reach them?06:21
andredsoulrider: the change occured 20 minutes ago or so. try to reconnect :P06:21
soulriderhang on a sec06:21
ubuntukk06:21
Ace2007!java06:22
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:22
soulrideruhm i got disconnected from AIM06:22
soulriderno, its working for me06:22
xstHmm, I wonder why this quite obvious bug hasn't been discovered befoere the kopete package upgrade was published.06:22
andredxst: ask Hobbsee or Riddell06:22
xstandred: Thnx06:22
andredxst: the protocol change occured some minutes ago06:22
xstok?06:22
andi_mhm i didnt work06:23
soulriderubuntu, what do you neeed ? just JRe or JDK06:23
DaSkreechYup06:23
andi_but thanks again...06:23
ubuntuboth06:23
andi_i am out... bye06:23
ubuntuiw anna play games06:23
ubunturunescape06:23
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soulriderbut are you gonna program ?06:23
xstandred: Does that mean that all ICQ clients are currently failing to connect?06:23
soulriderand runescape sucks :P06:23
ubuntuare u a kid?06:24
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soulrideri play game sif thats waht you mean06:24
soulriderhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%2906:24
soulrideryou got allt he java info there06:24
ubuntustick arena06:24
andredxst: no. they increased the version number that is needed to be allowed to connect. maybe other clients already use a higher number than kopete did06:24
xstandred: ok, thanks06:25
ubuntuim downaloding command and conquer generals from ktorrent06:25
ubuntuhow do we open it?06:25
soulriderits linux06:25
xstRiddell: Do you know, when a working version of kopete is available in the repositories? (was told that you would know this)06:25
soulrideri believe you can run it using wine06:25
soulriderand thast illegal :P06:25
ubuntuso?06:25
soulriderim using the latest kopete06:26
ubuntui paid but i lost it06:26
soulrideri updated like 10 mins ago fromt heir site06:26
ubuntuso im using ktorrent06:26
soulriderand it works well06:26
ubuntuwats the site?06:26
soulriderget command and conquert he first decade06:26
soulrider!wine06:26
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:26
soulrider!google06:26
ubotugoogle is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com06:26
soulrider^_^06:26
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ubuntusoulrider, did you isntall kubuntu?06:27
soulrideryes06:27
ubuntuoh.06:27
soulrideryou didnt? :-/06:27
ubuntui never knew ho to use it06:27
ubuntuso i sometimes use it a s a live cd06:27
soulriderthastw aht the IRC is for ;)06:27
soulrideri installed it yesterday06:27
ubuntuI WNAT JAVA@06:27
soulriderwell, i dont think using torrents while running it as live sia  very good idea06:27
soulrideri posted hte damn link above!06:28
ubuntutorrents are S---L---O---W--06:28
soulrider[13:24]  <soulrider> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%2906:28
ubuntuARES IS WICKED06:28
soulridertorrents are not slow06:28
ubuntuares06:28
ubuntuares is cool06:28
soulriderdoes somebody have a gun? im gonna shoot myslef06:28
ubuntufaster than anything06:28
soulridermyself06:28
ubuntunot a gun, but an AK-4706:28
ubuntui got a GEFORCE06:29
yogiAnyone out there familiar w/the fetchmail?  It doesn't give an error in daemon mode, nor does it ever check for mail.06:30
yogiCommandline: fetchmail --flush -f .fetchmailrc -d 42006:30
yogiManually executed it works flawlessly06:30
ubuntui dont know how to use KUBUNTU :(06:30
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ubuntuANYONE? CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO USE LINUX?????????(KUBUNTU)06:31
Riddellxst: dapper or edgy?06:31
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Riddellubuntu: don't shout and ask specific questions06:31
ubuntuTELL ME!!06:31
DaSkreechubuntu: Stop shouting06:32
ubuntuI DONT KNWO HOW TO USER06:32
yogiubuntu:Learning curve is steep.  Read the manual. ;-)  Then ask quesitons.06:32
ubuntuUSE06:32
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andredRiddell: it's a new problem. not the one that was fixed with 0.12.106:32
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu, what?06:32
DaSkreechubuntu: Stop typing in all caps06:32
Admiral_Chicagowhat is there to know?06:32
ubuntuWHERES THE MANUAL?06:32
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aseigo(or her)06:32
ubuntuDID IT COME WITH IT?06:32
ubuntuOH SHIT\06:32
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Admiral_Chicagoubuntu, stop being annoying06:33
Admiral_Chicagostop using caps06:33
Admiral_Chicagowhat do you want to do?06:33
ubuntuUSE JAVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:33
ubuntuFOR LINUX06:33
soulriderI POSTED THE FUCKING LINK TWICE06:33
Admiral_Chicagoas in...06:33
ubuntuWITCH I06:33
ubuntuDONT\06:33
DaSkreechPLease Mute him06:33
ubuntuKNOW06:33
ubuntuHOW06:33
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ubuntuTO06:33
ubuntuUSE06:33
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soulriderTHANK YOU, THANK YOU!!06:33
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Admiral_ChicagoRiddell, thanks06:33
Admiral_ChicagoI don't know how to give channel op to myself or I would have done it06:34
Riddellshame though, one less kubuntu user06:34
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ubuntuIM BAK06:34
Riddellor maybe not06:34
ubuntuAW CVRAP06:35
Riddellubuntu: don't shout or I'll ban you06:35
DaSkreechubuntu: For the last time turn off caps06:35
Hawkwindubuntu: Please remove the caps lock.  It makes it seem like you're shouting06:35
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ubuntuok06:35
ubuntuare you the maker of this thing?06:35
DaSkreechThank you06:35
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%2906:35
fritschRiddell: did you "patch out" the /etc/kderc lookin?06:35
DaSkreechNo but please be paitent when you ask a question06:36
Riddellfritsch: nope06:36
fritschRiddell: :-) don`t have any idea anymore06:36
ubuntuthx06:36
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ubuntuill change my nick06:36
Riddellfritsch: me neither :(06:36
fritschRiddell: can I hardcode it for testing in say /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?06:36
DaSkreechThat would help as well06:36
ubuntuhmmm...06:37
DaSkreechubuntu: Try /nick your_new_nick06:38
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ubuntuok06:39
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chrhi..after installing kubuntu grub wont load so to have it loaded i have the cd in and choose boot from first hard disk..how can i fix...06:39
hussamRiddell: kmail from kde 3.5.4 on edgy isn't packaged yet, correct?06:39
enemyofallill tell you06:39
Admiral_Chicago!grub06:39
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:39
enemyofallits me, ubuntu06:39
arendhallo06:39
enemyofallmy name is enemy of all!06:40
arendIk kom uit groningen06:40
Admiral_Chicagochr, check out those links06:40
arendspreek hier iemand dutch06:40
Admiral_Chicagoenemyofall, did that page help?06:40
chrthank..i will check..06:41
Riddellhussam: no06:41
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enemyofallno06:41
enemyofallim typing something06:41
enemyofalla method to install06:41
rideickalguem a fala portugues?06:41
hussamRiddell: ok thanks, I just wanted to confirm the mirror I use is up to date.06:41
Hawkwind!portuguese06:42
ubotuI know nothing about portuguese - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:42
Hawkwind!pl06:42
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:42
enemyofallok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)06:42
abattoir!pt06:42
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:42
DaSkreechenemyofall: You should have a swap06:43
abattoirHawkwind: pl is polish :P06:43
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enemyofalli have lots of memory06:43
MilhousePunkRockre everyone06:43
enemyofalland everything i have in my comp is great and auesome06:43
enemyofallwhen i tried swap it never worked06:43
abattoirDaSkreech: ubuntu is going to be called twonke? :S06:43
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hi :)06:43
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abattoir*twonkle06:44
Hawkwindabattoir: Polish, Portuguese, all the same to me since I do good enough to read/write my own native language of English :P06:44
abattoirHawkwind: hehe06:44
DaSkreechSo it seems06:44
DaSkreechenemyofall: Do you have a question?06:44
enemyofallumm....no06:44
hussamRiddell: is there perhaps an rss feed or something similar for the edgy upgrades?06:45
abattoirDaSkreech: really? you have a link you can give me?06:45
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HawkwindTwonkle ?06:45
enemyofallhawkwind:twonkle06:45
soulrider!edgy06:45
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:45
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enemyofallversion 6.10 lts for your pc06:46
enemyofallthats what it says on the box06:46
soulrider!flash06:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:46
enemyofallnick/ares06:46
enemyofalloops06:46
Admiral_Chicago!schedual06:46
ubotuI know nothing about schedual - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:46
enemyofallenomyofall06:46
DaSkreechabattoir: http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm06:46
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Admiral_Chicago!schedule06:47
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:47
LimburgOnLinehallo06:47
abattoirDaSkreech: the link seems suspicious :P06:47
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enemyofallewww\06:47
enemyofallbarbie linux06:47
enemyofallenemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)06:48
enemyofallthats right06:48
enemyofallill sya it again06:48
enemyofallenemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)06:48
LimburgOnLineSomebody speak dutch06:48
DaSkreech!spam06:48
ubotuI know nothing about spam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:48
DaSkreech!nl06:48
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl06:48
DaSkreech!flood06:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:48
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aresenemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)06:49
abattoirDaSkreech: i remember BarbieOS from an April's day hoax....06:49
aresmy name is ares now!06:49
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abattoirDaSkreech: but i see nothing relating to twonkle....06:50
HawkwindI missed the twonkle relationship in that06:50
LimburgOnLinewie wil me op weg helpen06:50
abattoir!de06:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:50
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abattoir!nl06:51
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl06:51
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abattoirLimburgOnLine: ^^^^^06:51
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AlatristeHI06:51
Alatristesorry for mi bad english06:51
Alatristecoudl somebody help with bluetooh?06:51
Alatristei use SOAX client from KDE but it gives me problmes witth my noki06:51
Alatristei06:51
Alatristewith my Nokia6230I06:51
Alatristeit's very slow and half times gives me error on sending06:52
Alatristeis ther some alternative?06:52
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abattoirAlatriste: you want to transfer files *to* your phone?06:52
Alatristeabattoir: , yes06:53
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abattoirAlatriste: did you use the service menu in konqueror? Rt.click on a file->Actions->Send via bluetooth06:53
abattoir??06:53
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Alatristeabattoir: , NO I din't know about it06:56
abattoirAlatriste: so it works now?06:56
Alatristeabattoir: , it's starting but it uses soax client too06:57
Alatristeand it gave me error sending varios files at same time06:57
Alatristealso it's mucho more slow than in windows, so i asked about an alternative06:58
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MilhousePunkRock!bluetooth06:58
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup06:58
MilhousePunkRockMaybe that might help you, Alatriste?06:58
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AlatristeMilhousePunkRock: , ok i'll try tha page, i'll see if i have some bad configured06:59
soulrider!css206:59
ubotuI know nothing about css2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:59
soulrideruhm guys, is there an app for linux kind of like AnyDVD fro windows ?07:00
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soulrider!DeCSS07:00
ubotuI know nothing about DeCSS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:00
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Alatristespecially for speed07:00
Alatristeit takes more than five minutes for only a song !!!!!!!!!!!07:00
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jordanhow to get faster start kubuntu ?07:07
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Alatristeabattoir: , and there isnt'a way for sending all files in once instead having to confirm an save files one by one in cellular?07:09
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abattoirAlatriste: once the Bluetooth transfer window opens up, drag files from top to bottom... and then send...07:10
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abattoirAlatriste: that is from the file-selector window in the top, to the one in the bottom07:10
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jordanhow to get faster start kubuntu ?07:12
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fritschRiddell: please look in /etc/qt3/qtrc07:12
fritschRiddell: this cannot be correct, or?07:12
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MilhousePunkRockjordan: I got a nice link for you on that, hold on...07:13
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Riddellfritsch: looks correct to me07:13
MilhousePunkRockjordan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949107:13
Alatristeabattoir: , that yes but i mean the celular asks confirmation and how to save file one by one07:13
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abattoirAlatriste: aah, that's upto your cell, i guess...07:13
fritschRiddell: there is written kdeAddedLibraryPaths=/root.kde/lib/kde3/plugins ...07:13
MilhousePunkRockMake sure you read everything carefully though, jordan...07:13
abattoirAlatriste: which phone?07:14
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fritschRiddell: in an etc etnry ...07:14
Alatristeabattoir: , nokia 6230i07:14
abattoirAlatriste: hmmm, that's a series40?07:14
Riddellfritsch: should be  kdeAddedLibraryPaths=/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/07:14
jorge___hola07:14
fritschRiddell: yes!#07:14
fritschRiddell: i compared with "dapper 353"07:14
fritschRiddell: and changed07:14
abattoirAlatriste: anyways there should be an option in the Bluetooth settings for the phone, to accept connections automatically07:15
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abattoirAlatriste: after you put that you dont have to say 'yes' to connect your phone everytime07:15
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fritschRiddell: retrying ... again the old behaviour :-(07:15
fritschRiddell: is this normal? if I start kdm then this file is changed?07:16
cpk2my wireless card always seems to break itself and not work after a couple hours... using ndiswrapper07:17
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DaSkreechjordan: I guess you can tweak your setup07:19
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bkudriawhen i start xgl, it just gives me the gray checkered screen with an X cursor, and never starts....what should i do?07:19
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DaSkreechbkudria: ask in #ubuntu-xgl07:20
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bkudriaDaSkreech: ok, thanks!07:20
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Riddellfritsch: yes, that's normal07:21
jordan MilhousePunkRock oki you do everythings on this page ?07:21
fritschRiddell: okay, mmh i do not have a single idea anymore07:21
dmhouseIs it possible to use Ipod Nanos with Kubuntu? A wiki.ubuntu.com search didn't reveal much.07:21
trappistdmhouse: yeah, use it with amaroK07:21
Riddelldmhouse: fat formatted ones should be fine07:21
MilhousePunkRockjordan: I turned off all the services that I don't need, and I did notice a difference...07:22
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MilhousePunkRockjordan: Note that it's only for the time before KDE starts though...07:22
dmhousetrappist: amaroK isn't mounting it though.07:22
jordanMilhousePunkRock i know07:23
dmhouseIt may need more battery, perhaps I should leave it to charge for a bit.07:23
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jordanMilhousePunkRock Can I creat backup for this file ?07:24
dmhouseShould amaroK automagically mount the iPod or do I need to do that myself? If the latter, how?07:25
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ddafasdhi07:25
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w00thi07:25
supernix hiya all07:26
supernixAnyone here versed in pppd?07:26
cpk2!pppd07:26
ubotuI know nothing about pppd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:26
cpk2!ppoe07:26
ubotuI know nothing about ppoe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:27
uniqsupernix: what is your problem?07:27
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w00tih07:27
supernixwell I am trying to help my fiancee get her PC online using dialup07:27
supernixI got a modem that said it was supported by kernel 2.4 it is however a PCI07:28
MilhousePunkRockjordan: Well, you should take a pen and a piece of paper, and write down the initial status, so you can turn it back just in case07:28
uniqdid you try 'sudo pppconfig' ?07:28
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supernixthe thing dials up but I always get error 1 or 2 or 16 here lately it exits signal 1607:28
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supernixnah I never tried that command just used the kppd to configure it07:28
w00tis it possible fto run linux on a 23 mhz pc:P07:29
w00t??07:29
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cpk2i would imagine yes07:29
cpk2it would be incredibly bare07:29
trappistit was developed on a 38607:29
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jordanMilhousePunkRock How turn it in recover mode ?07:30
supernixuniq:  is that how your supposed to configure the connection by using pppconfig ?07:30
uniqsupernix: you can use kppp too.. but i tend to use pppconfig as it is what i'm used to from the old days.07:31
w00tso it is possible?07:31
uniqsupernix: error 2 is when you give pppd two options that are mutually exclusive.07:32
supernixwhen I looked at the logs it would say something like server failed to authenticate  and could not find a secret07:32
MilhousePunkRockjordan: By default, you hit Esc when at the very beginning of the boot process07:32
uniqsupernix: i suggest giving 'sudo pppconfig' in konsole a try.07:32
supernixOk great do you think it could have anything to do with the modem ?07:33
MilhousePunkRockjordan: That gives you the GRUB menu, and there should be a recovery option for every kernel you have installed... So selecting the 2nd entry gives you your default kernel in recovery mode07:33
Jonathanngoing to Adept howto, I get "this page does not exist yet"07:33
soulriderguys, what can i use to see my network usage ?07:33
soulriderim installing something with adept, but i think its downlaoding at a really low speed07:34
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uniqsupernix: if pppconfig fails you can start thinking of that.07:34
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vranikxhello all07:34
gatekeeper_Jonathann, personally I prefer synaptic over adept07:35
supernixI did hear most people suggest only using a serial modem but I tried to stick to a PCI07:35
supernixI just was not sure if it was operator error or the modem since on the one hand it was dialing and such07:36
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uniqsoulrider: if you want something graphical you can try the kicker applet 'knetload' (package has the same name). For console, i suggest using 'iptraf' or 'nload' both are package names.07:36
soulriderthanks!07:37
vranikxhello all, is anybody here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv07:37
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soulrideri was thinking of somethign graphical yes, like DU meter for windows07:37
Jonathanngatekeeper_: I think I would too, but knowing how to do things with it might come in handy someday07:37
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soulrideris ti possible to download more of those panels for KDE?07:37
cpk2soulrider: gkrellm is a pretty cool graphical system monitor07:38
Jonathanngatekeeper_: Oh, I think I can use it.  My problem was that I confused it with "Add/remove programs."  Been using linux for years, but booted into Kubuntu for the first time 5 minutes ago.07:38
gatekeeper_Jonathann, fair enough :-) probable a howto somewhere if you google07:38
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soulrideri just need a network monitor, dunno why, but i cant live without one :P07:38
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soulridergatekeeper_:  whata  cool name :P07:39
soulridersounds really mmorpg :P07:39
cpk2soulrider: gkrellm does network in/out hdd read/writes cpu usage07:39
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JonathannDoes anyone know about making Nvidia GeForce 7300 work?07:39
soulriderit hink ill just stick to knetload07:39
gatekeeper_Jonathann, Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/07:39
JonathannIt is not working out of the box for me07:39
soulriderbut thanks for the tip!07:39
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Jonathanngatekeeper_: No, no, I meant the KDE "Add/remove programs" in the K menu07:40
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gatekeeper_Jonathann, looked in there, didn't seem to be much use :-)07:41
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cpk2Jonathann: you install nvidia-glx?07:41
Jonathanngatekeeper_: I have Ubuntu 5.04 in my own Thinkpad, and I was really lost when a friend brought his computer for repairs and I could not find Synaptics in any menu07:41
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Jonathanncpk2: Not yet, will do that immediately if it's that simple07:42
cpk2Jonathann: after that you need to do nvidia-glx-config enable07:42
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cpk2make sure you back up xorg.conf before all this07:42
Jonathanngatekeeper_: The friend had a fresh 5.10, so that's why there was only the Ubuntu's "Add/remove programs"07:43
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Jonathanncpk2: Thanks for the advice, I will07:43
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gatekeeper_Jonathann, would be back to the cli for me :-)07:43
vranikxhello all, is anybody here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv07:43
robert____hi all07:43
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gatekeeper_bye MilhousePunkRock :-)07:44
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Jonathanngatekeeper_: I think I will break less things in unfamiliar systems if I keep finding out how they are supposed to be done before going straight ahead and just doing it07:44
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Jonathanngatekeeper_: Last time I learned that was in a fight with a WLAN PCMCIA card07:45
soulrideris there a way to kind fo reset the amaroK collection ?07:45
gatekeeper_Jonathann, who won?07:45
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JonathannBut calling Firefox lightweight is something I will never get.  What then is heavyweight? =)07:46
soulrideropera > firefox :P07:46
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cpk2i have to fight with my wlan pcmcia card everyday07:46
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cpk2it likes to break itself after its been connected for a couple hours07:46
trappistsoulrider: you could blow out your sqlite/mysql database07:46
vranikxnobody is here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv07:46
gatekeeper_Jonathann, ie6 because it installs viruses for free :-)07:46
soulridertrappist: how do i do tha ?07:47
soulriderthat*07:47
Jonathanngatekeeper_: I won, after removing all my previous settings and starting over the way it was supposed to be done07:47
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trappistsoulrider: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/collection.db /somewhere/else07:47
trappistor just delete it07:48
trappistexit07:48
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soulriderbut where si it located?07:48
trappistoops07:48
trappistI just gave you the full path07:48
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soulriderand i think im using sqlite07:48
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gatekeeper_Jonathann, I often consult ubuntu wiki before doing something, saved me a load of agro07:48
trappistyeah if you don't know, you're using sqlite.  and that's the path to the database.07:48
soulriderok, thanks07:49
evil_cowdoesanyone has a problem with k3b and speed in dvd write07:49
evil_cow?07:49
supernixIf you can get the modem to query doesn't that mean that it is working and the drivers are loaded ?07:49
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uniqsupernix: i would think so, yes.07:50
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uniqsupernix: if it dials it should work.. as far as i can understand.07:50
supernixhmmm then this has to be some sort of configuration error07:50
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trappistsupernix: if that was you with the can't find secret thing, it sounds like it's half-configured to do a vpn like pptp07:51
soulridertrappist:  i noticed that the .kde folder is kind of hidden, how can i configure konqueror to show me hidden folders?07:51
supernixI read in one file that it said to uncomment noauth and after I did that it stopped giving error 1 or 2 but then it was doing signal 1607:51
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cpk2soulrider: view > show hidden files07:51
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soulrideroh, lol07:52
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trappistsoulrider: all files/directories that start with . are hidden - I dunno off the top of my head how to make konqueror do that, but it's probably not too hard07:52
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supernixtrappist: it was me07:52
supernixhmm07:52
vranikxis anybody here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv :((( nobody here?07:52
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supernixGOD everything is so easy when you have cable compared to this dialup nightmare07:52
trappistvranikx: try #ubuntu+107:52
Hawkwindsoulrider: In konqueror, View -> View hidden files07:52
vranikxaha, thank you trappist07:53
soulrideryes, thanks!07:53
trappistsoulrider: got it?07:53
soulridertrappist: i deleted that file, but im afraid thec ollection is still there :(07:53
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soulridererr, how can i use ASCII?07:54
soulrideri need to use a char i dont have on ym keyboard07:54
DaSkreechsoulrider: in IRC?07:54
soulriderin konqueror07:54
soulrideri wanna write the "~" symbol07:54
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cpk2soulrider: american keyboard?07:55
dek_aiksupernix: just my 2 cent, you have to close down eth0 with pppd to work07:55
soulriderspanish07:55
cpk2oh, was gonna say tilde should be above tab07:55
cpk2how did you do it just now? =P07:55
soulridercopy paste lol07:55
soulrider\07:55
soulriderthastw hat i get witht he button above tab07:56
cpk2you can copy paste into konq07:56
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soulrideryes, but i may not ahve smoene to type it every time07:56
soulriderand i dont even know what its called :P07:56
soulriderin win i allways wrote it with alt+12607:56
cpk2its a tilde07:56
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soulriderfriggin spanish keyboard07:57
jordanHow use LINKS in terminal07:57
cpk2soulrider: you can just use the wiki to copy paste it everytime =P07:58
DaSkreechjordan: links <url>07:58
supernixI did do that as well dek_aik I did read somewhere that just having eth0 up could cause issues with the pppd07:58
DaSkreechjordan: You could also try man links07:58
trappistsoulrider: add a character selector to your panel07:58
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trappistlike right-click, add applet to panel etc.07:58
fritschRiddell: is this bug the reason for not officially relasing kde 3.5.4?07:58
trappistinstall kcharselect if necessary07:58
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Riddellfritsch: no07:59
supernixI also wondered about the possibility of this being some sort of bug with the pppd07:59
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adam__how do i upgrade dapper to edgy eft ?07:59
fritschRiddell: what is it?07:59
supernixBad thing is without getting her box online I can't get any updates07:59
kbrooksOn Kubuntu, why doesnt it do copy and paste correctly?07:59
Riddellfritsch: what's what?07:59
trappistkbrooks: define 'correctly'07:59
soulriderk thanks, as soon as im done installing eclipse ill downlaod kcharselect and knetload07:59
fritschkbrooks: define correctly08:00
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kbrookscorrectly...08:00
fritschRiddell: no, on what is the 3.5.4 release still waiting?08:00
fritschRiddell: the official one08:00
Riddellfritsch: you'd have to ask the release manager08:00
soulriderk, i could fix the collection polem, thanks!!08:00
tsdgeosgood one ;-)08:00
kbrooksit keeps a old clipboard entry around08:00
tsdgeosRiddell: are we having an updated hal?08:00
supernixthat sounds like clipper kbrooks08:01
trappistkbrooks: I always kill the clipboard manager.  gets in my way.08:01
supernixor is it klipper08:01
Riddelltsdgeos: is adds the (un)mount scripts in /usr/share/hal/scripts08:01
supernixI forget08:01
tsdgeosRiddell: ok08:01
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StrudelNinjais there any way to make my clock on the bottom right be in 12h format?08:06
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cpk2yeah right click on it and go to date/time format08:07
trappistwish that was the default08:07
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StrudelNinjaok I did that but nothing changed08:07
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StrudelNinjaor do I have to restart something08:08
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DaSkreechlnxkde: Yawn08:08
cpk2well it is only 11 am here...08:08
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cpk2dunno about you08:08
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wckdkl0wni am getting ready to reinstall kubuntu. when i start back up how to i install the optimized kernel for my system08:10
wckdkl0wnSysinfo for 'wckdkl0wn-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 2105 MHz (4214 bogomips), , RAM: 751/756MB, 91 proc's, 16.11h up08:10
wckdkl0wnthe one for amd08:10
visik7am I the only one that don't get icq working anymore with kopete?08:10
soulrideri suggest you gett he latest version08:11
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soulriderits 0.12 i think08:11
soulrideri ahd trouble with MSN08:11
soulriderand it fixed it08:11
andredvisik7: it was fixed in svn 2 hours ago08:11
visik7where is 0.12 for kubuntu ?08:11
andredvisik7: there no 0.12 with that fix for kubuntu yet08:12
h3sp4wnwckdkl0wn: Install linux-image-k7 (but make sure you have main restricted after dapper-security if you need any non free modules)08:12
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visik7andred: so no icq for now08:12
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wckdkl0wnh3sp4wn: ty08:12
soulridervisik7: i went to the kopete website adn got the latest version fot he thing08:12
andredvisik7: you can compile it for yourself :)08:12
soulriderand im running it right now08:12
soulrideri got a .deb file08:12
soulriderso i could install it right away08:12
andredsoulrider: the change seems to not affect all the people (yet)08:13
visik7andred: I like packages not source that mess up my distro08:13
soulrider:O08:13
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cpk2source wont mess anything up if you keep it neat08:14
soulrideri downloaded and installed eclipse, but ic ant find a shortcut anywhere :-/08:15
soulriderand it installed other stuff too :-/08:15
soulriderlike mozilla08:15
StrudelNinjasay, where can I get a sysinfo script for konversation?08:15
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cpk2try running eclipse from terminal?08:15
visik7ok now also msn disconnected me and ask for a password...08:15
cpk2or updatedb and the do a locate08:15
wckdkl0wnStrudelNinja: just type /sysinfo08:15
cpk2then*08:15
StrudelNinjaoh08:15
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StrudelNinjaSysinfo for 'josh-linux': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.00GHz at 3015 MHz (6033 bogomips), , RAM: 1977/2027MB, 121 proc's, 1.14d up08:15
h3sp4wnStrudelNinja: infobash is about the best I think (Just search google for it put it in /usr/local/bin)08:15
StrudelNinjahey cool08:15
soulrideri wrote eclipse in the console adn it sais it doesnt exist08:16
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cpk2gaim doesnt use /sysinfo =\08:16
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soulridercpk2: how can i use that update thingy ?08:16
cpk2just sudo updatedb08:16
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cpk2it might take a while08:17
soulrideri need to sue sudo right ?08:17
h3sp4wnsoulrider: Or just use whereis08:17
cpk2yup08:17
h3sp4wnsoulrider: But that doesn't search everywhere08:17
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DaSkreechOh Use sudo08:18
soulriderthe whereis command gave me a result :)08:18
rsosbornHello all08:18
DaSkreechman that had me confused for a while08:18
rsosbornNeed a bit of help08:18
DaSkreech!ask08:18
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:18
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DaSkreech!help08:18
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:18
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cpk2!love08:18
ubotuI know nothing about love - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:18
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cpk2guess you arent all knowing =)08:18
soulriderlol08:18
rsosbornI got a ftp server with apache which I use to ftp my files from windows to linux. I created a user for ftp but the user has access to all files. How to restrict the ftp user to its home directory?08:19
soulridercpk2: i used that updatedb command adn everything08:19
JonathannUsing nvidia now, but glxgears does not give me any FPS readings08:19
soulriderbut i still type eclipse and geta n error08:19
cpk2soulrider: updatedb is so you can use locate08:20
cpk2ie locate eclipse08:20
osohrsosborn: ftp with apache?08:20
soulrideroh08:20
soulrideruhm i gto like 10 thousand results08:20
rsosbornosoh: Ya I'm have proftp and LAMP server08:20
osohrsosborn: ok, that's better ;)08:20
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cpk2yeah locate usually gives you more =P08:21
DaSkreechrsosborn: All You do is use it to FPT files across the local network?08:21
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soulridermy problem si, how do i run the dman thing? :P08:21
rsosbornright to my apache server because I design my html in windows08:21
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rsosbornI like Dreamweaver to much to give it up08:21
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cpk2you try man eclipse?08:21
=== DaSkreech isn't sure why you need Windows to design HTML but ....
rsosbornI don't08:22
soulriderno maual entry for eclipse08:22
rsosbornI just like dreamweaver enviorment08:22
bluesceadarsosborn: eww but doesnt it create invalid code?08:22
rsosbornsometimes08:22
rsosbornbut isn't that bad08:22
cpk2but you installed it?08:22
DaSkreechrsosborn: You could just use sftp with openssh then that would keep things in check for you08:22
bluesceadaand ugly bloated code :S08:22
soulrideryes08:22
soulrideri used adept to isnatll evrything08:22
rsosbornI have ftp set up and works fine08:22
cpk2might want to look through the locate results =P08:22
DaSkreechYou could run Dreamweaver under WINE:)08:22
soulriderit even isnatleld mozilla browser automatically08:22
rsosbornbut what I want to do is restrict that ftp user only to /var/www08:22
rsosbornand no other files08:22
ricardo_hi...does anybody know how to change login screen...(as with splash screen)?08:22
rsosbornhow do I that08:22
soulriderbut how do i know wats hte main file to execute?08:22
DaSkreechI digress though08:23
soulridersince there are no exes here :P08:23
cpk2how big is the locate output?08:23
JonathannWhat is the hotkey for switching workspaces in KDE?08:23
soulriderBIG08:23
rsosbornDaSkreech: Ya, I could run Dreamweaver through wine but my server is a slow machine needs upgrades08:23
soulriderprobably 50 lines at least08:23
cpk2thats not bad08:23
trappistJonathann: ctrl-f1/f2/etc.08:23
cpk2pastebin it08:23
JonathannIn Gnome one can do Ctrl+Alt+Larrow or Ctrl+Alt+Rarrow08:23
cpk2i will see if anything looks promising08:24
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Jonathanntrappist: Any shortcut for next or previous?08:24
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trappistJonathann: yeah, but I don't use em so i don't remember what they are08:24
soulrideruhm, it hink tis more liek 200 lines :P08:24
cpk2oh08:24
cpk2well look and see if there are any results in etc08:25
rsosbornSo does anyone know how to restrict a ftp user to their home directory?08:25
soulridersome in cache08:25
soulridersome in lib08:25
soulridermost in share08:25
MarsRouterhi08:25
DaSkreechrsosborn: Umm  I forget the name right now but there is a file you can drop in the folders to exclude users from entering it08:25
MarsRouterhow ca i play MP3s ??08:25
DaSkreech!mp3 > MarsRouter08:26
rsosbornhmmm08:26
cpk2you might want to do a sudo apt-get install eclipse to double check it installed08:26
h3sp4wnrsosborn: It is pretty trivial to chroot a user if you are using proftpd (probably with others but I only know the exact way to do it with proftpd)08:26
osohrsosborn: I've not used proftpd for a long time :P but I think that there's (or there was) a directive called DocumentRoot08:26
cpk2or maybe dpkg-reconfigure eclipse08:26
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cpk2as sudo08:26
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soulriderill try second one first :P08:26
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soulriderfucker, sais its not sinatlled :P08:26
rsosbornany more details because I'm new to this08:26
DaSkreech!language08:27
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:27
soulridersorry =D08:27
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DaSkreechrsosborn: Sorry I don't recall the name of the file right now08:28
rsosbornh3swn: I'm using proftp08:28
soulridereclipse is downloading... again08:28
soulrideri g2g now, ill be bak later, thanks for the help!08:28
lnxkdeDaSkreech: sup!?08:28
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osohrsosborn: try "DocumentRoot ~"08:29
rsosbornthats okay08:29
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DaSkreechlnxkde: Me barely08:29
DaSkreechman I so want to sleep08:29
rsosbornwhere do I configure this out08:29
rsosbornI have webmin install08:29
rsosbornsorry I'm new to this08:29
rsosbornI won't lie, straight noob here08:29
rsosbornhehehe08:29
rsosbornbut I'm coming along08:29
osohah, no idea... I used to change the "/etc/proftpd.conf" (or something like that)08:29
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osohI've never used webmin :P08:30
lnxkdeDaSkreech: lol me too but I am going to work in 10 mins08:30
rsosbornI saw something like that08:30
JonathannI added universe and multiverse, but can't see wine anywhere in adept08:30
rsosbornsudo gedit /etc/proftpd.conf08:30
rsosbornbut said it was bad command08:30
DaSkreechI'm at work that makes it wrose!08:30
draikanybody here know what app/s to use for authoring a dvd from a few video clips?08:30
DaSkreechMarsRouter: Getting along?08:30
osohkubuntu?08:31
rsosbornyes08:31
osohtry sudo kedit /etc/proftpd.conf08:31
h3sp4wnDefaultRoot ~ !users08:31
rsosbornahh08:31
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osohor sudo kate /etc/proftpd.conf08:31
lnxkdeDaSkreech:   :p08:31
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draik!dvd08:31
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:31
h3sp4wn(then any user not in the users group will be chrooted to there home directory)08:31
DaSkreechMan this office needs a Bed right --------> there08:31
StrudelNinjais the unrar in the repos search I did the plugin for ark?08:32
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lnxkde!DaSkreech08:32
ubotuI know nothing about DaSkreech - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:32
lnxkdelol08:32
deuce_if my secondary partition is formated to reiserfs - is it possible to make it fat32 without having to lose all the info on the partition?08:32
karlhi, i'm having problems with the installation of my epson rx620 printer08:32
DaSkreechStrudelNinja: Should be08:32
ricardo_how can we check for orphaned modules?08:32
w00tlol i forgot the password of my own router:P08:33
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deuce_w00t - do a hard refresh of the router and it will reset the pass08:33
karlit came with the followinf message...08:33
karlError message;08:33
karlUnable to load the requested driver:08:33
karlUnable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX620,gutenprint] .08:33
karlEither that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions08:33
karlto perform that operation.08:33
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slow-motionre08:34
StrudelNinja!ark08:34
ubotuI know nothing about ark - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:34
w00tlol08:34
StrudelNinjaisn't there a site like, linuxprinters.org or something08:35
w00tlol08:35
StrudelNinjahttp://linuxprinting.org/08:35
karlyes there is but haven't had any luck08:35
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deuce_karl - i personally could never get my printer to work08:36
karlI've checked the foomatic packages... => conflict: foomatic-bin < 2.9 => conflict: foomatic-db < 2.9 => replaces: foomatic-bin < 2.908:36
StrudelNinjaso you checked http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX620 ?08:37
JonathannDo all combinations of (deb / deb-src), (dapper / dapper-backports / dapper-security / dapper-updates) and (main / restricted / universe / multiverse) exist?08:37
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karlyes i have been on that page ... epson...08:38
rsosbornJust as an update, I got it! It was change in proftpd.conf to "Defaultroot ~" and since I had webmin install I was able to make the changes there since I could get kedit or kate command to work08:38
JonathannOr am I subscribing to them all if I just enable everything in the default sources.list?08:38
rsosbornsince I couldn't get kedit or kate to work I meant08:38
JonathannI still can't see wine anywhere08:38
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karlno backports is not enabled08:39
rsosbornNo, one last mystery for me and I'm down. How to I change the root directory of apache2 web server. So that instead of the defualt folder being /var/www I can change it to direct to someting like /var/www/public_html08:39
JonathannOh, wait, does it have something to do with running a x86-64 system?08:39
rsosbornI meant "now, one last mystery for me and I'm done."08:39
rsosbornsorry08:39
trappistJonathann: did you install a 32bit or 64bit system?08:40
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Jonathanntrappist: From a 64bit CD.  It didn't ask me about anything.08:40
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trappistJonathann: then you need a 32bit chroot to run wine08:40
jhak88anyone: How do I use KBFX and how to change images and stuff???08:40
bl3ssingis there any emule for linux OS?08:40
Jonathanntrappist: Is there a FAQ or a wiki page to guide me?08:40
bluesceadabl3ssing: wth is linux os ? ;-)08:41
bluesceadaxmule or amule08:41
bl3ssingI'd love to have a personal partition so that I could save my files on it. In case of my OS reinstalling, I'd love my partition not to be touched by anything. Is there any possibility? If so ... HOWWWWWWWWW? :D Thank you.08:42
bl3ssingbluesceada, thank you. I'm on my way to xmule/amule (depending which'll be the first to be found ... :D)08:42
Ace2007Oh dear god NO!!! does kubuntu delete /tmp by itself ?!?!?!?!?08:42
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trappistJonathann: there used to be, but I can't find it now.  you might google for a debian howto on setting up a 32bit chroot.08:43
bl3ssinghow can I find this xmule/amule? :(08:43
sergiusensdeleting tmp is standard debian08:43
bl3ssingI tried with adept, but not working (read only mode).08:43
DaSkreechAce2007: On Reboot I think08:43
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Jonathanntrappist: Ok, I'll try (but I'll go to sleep soon if I'm unsuccessful)08:44
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rsosbornDoes anyone know how to change the root file for apache webserver so it looks to something like "/var/www/public_html" instead of default "/var/www"08:44
trappistJonathann: it takes some work, but it's the only way (well not the ONLY way) to get things like flash, java plugin, acrobat reader, wine, and a lot of other things.08:45
Ace2007DaSkreech: You know how long it took me to transcode those xvid files ?!?!?!?! Its just not fair :(08:45
DaSkreechAce2007: and you put them in /tmp instead of ~/temp?08:46
bl3ssingtrappist, if you're having wine on board while flying, ... you'll find the earth very fast ... just like that. :D08:46
TheGateKeeperJonathann: well I am on my linux box, so I might be able to answer a question on add / remove programs, actually seems fairly straight forward08:46
bl3ssingso ... Jonathann  I recommend you not to touch the win (only at the serpant)08:46
bl3ssing:)08:46
deuce_how do i format my reiserfs partition to fat32?08:46
Ace2007I put i in /tmp, only space i had on my hard disks, the home partition doesn't have the space :(08:47
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kilraegrrr, empty ext3 drive still has 2.5GB used08:48
Ace2007How do i create a new dir in / which anyone can write to like /myspace ?08:48
jhak88anyone: How do I use KBFX and how to change images and stuff???08:48
kilraechmod 777 /myspace08:48
DaSkreechAce2007: Create it and give it the same permission as /tmp08:48
Jonathanntrappist: I found a HowTo in the forums, but it uses the Sidenet script, and I'd rather do without08:48
deuce_Ace2007: in konsole - crdir myspace && chmod 777 myspace08:49
wckdkl0wnok how do i install the optimized kernel again for amd?08:49
notechrsosborn: change the DocumentRoot in the config08:49
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Jonathanntrappist: That's because Sidenet does much complicated things, and if one of those fails, there is no way to quickly learn what has it done exactly08:49
Ace2007hey can xfs recover files that have been deleted, there is lots of space on the disk disk and i don't think its been over written?08:49
wckdkl0wnand remove the old08:49
trappistJonathann: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/35608:49
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Ace2007whats the difference between mkdir and crdir?08:50
trappistAce2007: it might not be impossible, but if it can be done you'll probably spend days on it08:50
deuce_Ace2007: it's mkdir08:50
Jonathanntrappist: This is what I found: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18555708:50
deuce_Ace2007: i'm retarded and typing too fast while looking at an open console08:50
soulriderhey evryone, im back08:50
kilraeadduser myspace && mkdir /myspace && chown myspace /myspace && echo 'To access /myspace first su to the myspace user' >> /etc/motd08:50
DaSkreechAce2007: What? where did you get a crdir from?08:50
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Ace2007DaSkreech: doesn't matter08:51
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DaSkreechOk If you say so08:51
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trappistkilrae: maybe even adduser --home /myspace myspace08:52
rsosbornnotech: can I get a little more detail08:52
kilraeah08:52
rsosbornI'm still a noob but coming along08:52
Ace2007trappist: What does that do?08:52
kilraethat saves two steps, good08:52
Ace2007oh wait i get it08:53
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d-d4xE: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)08:53
d-d4xE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:53
d-d4x?08:53
soulriderhow can i make kubuntu run an app when i turn my pc on ?08:53
soulrideror toe xecute a script when i log in that will runc ommands08:53
Ace2007put it in ~/.kde/Autostart08:53
soulriderthe script?08:54
soulrideror a shortcut tot he app ?08:54
gekko`just a link08:54
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soulriderk, thanks!08:54
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TheGateKeeperd-d4x: you trying to install something?08:54
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Admiral_Chicagoahh08:54
deuce_is it true is a tar is over 2 gigs it becomes unstable and at risk of corruption?08:54
Ace2007soulrider: or you can use this to manager everything from kcontrol: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038 i like the GUI08:55
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soulriderthanks!08:55
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notechrsosborn: not really, i'm not on Ubuntu today. find the apache config and look for that line in it.08:57
trappistdeuce_: you run the risk of it getting cut off at the 2gb mark if it's on a filesystem that can't handle >2GB files or if your version of tar can't handle 'large files'08:57
deuce_it's on reiserfs08:57
wckdkl0wni just did sudo apt-get install linux-k7  but how do i get rid of the old once it is done?08:57
deuce_and the newest version of tar08:57
trappistreiserfs can handle insanely large files08:57
deuce_okay, cool08:57
trappistand I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure ubuntu's tar can handle it too08:57
cpk2ext3 can also handle huge files...08:57
trappistyou'll find out if it doesn't :)08:57
deuce_i am backing up a my 68 gigs of crap on a drive so i can format it to fat3208:57
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soulridercpk2: i got eclipse upa dn running, thanks SO much!!!!!08:58
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: It's best to leave atleast 2 kernels installed at all times. That way if something breaks on one, you can boot to the other possibly08:58
trappistdeuce_: you might have a hard time getting that tarball onto a fat32 filesystem08:58
wckdkl0wnok08:58
deuce_so i threw it all in one tar and then remembered back to olden unix days when a 2 gig tar would corrupt and die08:58
Admiral_Chicagodeuce_, how is this set up?08:58
Admiral_Chicagoas in how are you backing it up?08:58
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deuce_tar -cvf /home/deuce/Disk2.tar *08:58
soulriderwhats heap size ?08:59
Admiral_Chicagonolte, i mean the set up08:59
Admiral_ChicagoUSB, master/slave08:59
Admiral_Chicagoi'm guessing a mounted drive08:59
deuce_then tar -xvf /home/deuce/Disk2.tar /media/hda208:59
Admiral_Chicagohmm, if its Fat32, you can just drag and drog08:59
Admiral_Chicagodrop08:59
soulriderAce2007: i installed it, btu i dont see any shortcuts09:00
soulriderlol, im sucha  n00b :P09:01
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RogueXidentify c0mputer09:01
bl3ssingI can't find xmule in Adept. What can I do?09:01
deuce_bl3ssing: amule09:01
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deuce_bl3ssing: search for amule09:01
cpk2!xmule09:02
ubotuI know nothing about xmule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:02
bl3ssingtried deuce_ , nothing. :(09:02
cpk2!amule09:02
ubotuI know nothing about amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:02
cpk2!repos09:02
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:02
cpk2!repos amule09:02
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, type kcontrol in the Kmenu09:02
ubotuI know nothing about repos amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:02
DaSkreech!info amule09:02
ubotuamule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB09:02
Admiral_Chicagounder run command09:02
cpk2there we go09:02
DaSkreech!info xmule09:02
ubotuxmule: eMule client for the edonkey2000 network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0b-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 891 kB, installed size 2800 kB09:02
deuce_bl3ssing: if you have an up to date system there in an amule - do a search for 'p2p' in adept09:02
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deuce_bl3ssing: do you have your universe enabled?09:02
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soulridernot there09:03
Admiral_Chicagoright click on your desktop >> run command >>kcontrol09:04
soulrideryay, its on!09:05
soulrideruhm no, what do i do now? :P09:05
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wckdkl0wnwhat repository do i have to add if i want to install mplayer?09:05
deuce_!mplayer09:05
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer09:05
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.09:05
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soulriderthanks Admiral_Chicago09:07
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, not a problem09:08
karli tried to install the printer via http://localhost:631/ but it is asking for a account and pasword... i tried with my account but it doesn't work...09:08
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KgB_hello09:11
eitch0000_anybody tell me how to get quicktime movies working in firefox?09:11
KgB_my apt-get dont find many things09:11
bl3ssingcouldn't find the source list ... what happend? I'm trying to full upgrade the adept, and ... I can't do anything. :(09:11
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mt09:11
KgB_need i change anything?09:11
KgB_or its normal?09:11
Admiral_ChicagoKgB_, check this out09:11
Admiral_Chicago!repos09:11
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:11
KgB_oh09:11
KgB_thx :D09:11
RogueXeitch0000_: Mplayer will play them in firefox I thinkk09:11
eitch0000_RogueX: and how do I tell firefox to use mplayer?09:12
wckdkl0wnE: Package mplayer has no installation candidate09:12
wckdkl0wn??09:12
Admiral_ChicagoRogueX, there is a package09:13
Hawkwind!info mplayer09:13
Admiral_Chicagocheck adept09:13
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB09:13
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: It's in multiverse, so you have to enable that repo09:13
gnomefreakwckdkl0wn: enable multiverse repo09:13
soulriderguys, can someone explain to em why linux will use so much of my RAM?09:13
wckdkl0wnhow?09:13
soulriderits using over 700mb09:13
soulriderand i gto 768 :-/09:13
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deuce_bl3ssing: in adept go to the top left and click on 'Adept' and go down to 'Manage Repos'09:13
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, what are you running09:13
soulridernot much09:14
deuce_bl3ssing: and then right click on all the lines that begin in with deb and make sure they are enabled09:14
soulriderkonversation, kopete, knetload09:14
RogueXeitch0000_: you also might want to install w32codec and libxine_extracodecs if you dont have them to get full support in firefoox09:14
soulriderand thats basically it09:14
Hawkwindsoulrider: The more it's using or has cached, the faster your system runs.  It's the complete opposite of Windows09:14
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: soulrider: i uncommented everything in the repo list but still dont work09:14
soulrider:O09:14
soulridersweet09:14
Hawkwindsoulrider: It will cache things for days/weeks/months until you reboot09:14
gnomefreakwckdkl0wn: did you update?09:14
wckdkl0wnyea09:14
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer09:14
soulridersweet09:14
deuce_bl3ssing: then do Fetch Updates and search for whatever and then Apply09:15
gnomefreakwckdkl0wn: did you type the word multiverse after the word universe?09:15
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: Post your sources.list to pastebin.com for us to see it09:15
eitch0000_RogueX: those are installed09:15
wckdkl0wn!paste09:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:15
gnomefreakwckdkl0wn: there are 4 lines that end with the word universe09:15
bl3ssingdeuce_, fetch update's not visible ... :(09:15
bl3ssingI've already enabled everything with deb including with deb.src too09:15
rr72anyone remember CHiPS?09:16
deuce_bl3ssing: sorry, hit the Apply button and then Close that window09:16
gnomefreakwckdkl0wn: add a space after the word universe and add the word multiverse09:16
deuce_bl3ssing: and then Fetch Updates09:16
wckdkl0wnhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1932009:16
rr72that show was sweet09:16
bl3ssingdone it. the same. :(09:16
bl3ssingdeuce_, e it. the same. :(09:16
rr72what happened to all of these cool shows like mgyver and CHiPS09:16
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bl3ssingdeuce_, done it. the same. :(09:17
ubuntuhello all09:17
deuce_bl3ssing: then Fetch Updates, then hit the Apply button09:17
Hawkwindrr72: How is that related to Kubuntu.  Might take that to #Kubuntu-OffTopic09:17
deuce_bl3ssing:  then do the search for p2p09:17
kilraemacguyver used kubuntu09:17
kilraehe didn't like gnome09:17
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wckdkl0wnHawkwind:  i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer and now it is installing ty09:17
rr72i DONT like u hawkwind, u banned me in xchat and didnt even talk to me like why u did09:17
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: You need to add 'multiverse' to a couple more places in your sources.list09:17
Admiral_Chicagorr72, yea take it to offtopic, cuz we aren't doign anything09:18
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: Ah ok09:18
rr72Chicago FTW!09:18
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: how do you have yours setup in repos?09:18
HawkwindYou were banned due to being offtopic and annoying09:18
deuce_like you're being now09:18
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.009:18
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: That's my sources.list there.  It's posted on my LFD forums09:19
dr_willisChiMPS  - a show about monkeys on motorcycles. :P09:19
rr72dr_willis~ SSSSSHHHHHHH take it to offtopic cause hawkwind might get mad09:19
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Hawkwindrr72: It happens to be the channel rules09:20
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: ok so would i be able to just replace mine with that?09:20
Turtle_JPis there a dedciated k/ubuntu PPC channel?09:20
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wckdkl0wnHawkwind: so that i wont run into any more problems later?09:20
deuce_bl3ssing: you get it to work?09:20
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Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: You could if you wanted to, sure09:20
dhqhow to check what all process are open09:20
Turtle_JPtop09:20
Hawkwinddhq: ps aux or use top09:20
eitch0000_has anyone got quicktime movies working in firefox? like from trailers.apple.com?09:20
Hawkwind!ppc09:20
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.09:20
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Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: If any of them give you 404 errors or anything, then just comment them out or remove them from the sources.list completely09:21
rr72and im not even going to mention apple switching to intel causethat would be OFFTOPIC09:21
dhq Hawkwind is it in konsole09:21
bl3ssingdeuce_, NOPE!09:21
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: sweet and you have a repo for mythtv in there too09:21
Turtle_JPlol09:21
soulriderBRB09:21
deuce_bl3ssing: odd...09:21
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: maybe now i can get my capture card to work09:21
trym|workIm experiencing something very strange.. Winbind is working perfectly for a few users.. but others do not work at all. The user setup should be identical. The winbind log just says that the user is unknown09:22
trym|workany ideas?09:22
Turtle_JPrr72 I must say that the Kubuntu LiveCD is running wicked fast on a MacMini G409:22
Turtle_JPActually faster than my P4 3.009:22
Turtle_JPGo figure09:22
rr72Turtle_JP~ don't talk to me about macs09:22
rr72i will get off topic09:22
Turtle_JPwouldn't want that to happen09:23
rr72;)09:23
rr72Turtle_JP~ do u use turtlebeach sound card?09:23
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: do you have a capture card installed?09:23
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h3sp4wn!xine09:24
ubotuI know nothing about xine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:24
dhqis there any grafical software to kill processes09:24
soulrideri dont know why, but KDE kinda started getting laggy09:24
Admiral_Chicago!info xine09:24
ubotuPackage xine does not exist in dapper09:24
soulrideri loged out and then abck in09:24
soulriderksysguard i think09:25
RogueXdhq: Xkill will09:25
soulrideryouc an use it to monitor them at least09:25
Turtle_JPdhq Top is terminal but pretty dang easy09:25
deuce_bl3ssing: i'm working on something, give me a second and i will see what's up09:25
dr_willisi like that 'mtop' variant i found on freshmeat.net09:25
KgB_i have install gcc and gcc 4, but when i try install a program, i execute ./configure and it stop at: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:26
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rr72Turtle_JP~ do u by chance use turtle beach sound card?09:26
KgB_its right?09:26
dr_willisinstall build-essential09:26
Turtle_JPNo I don't09:26
wckdkl0wnanyone here have a radeon 9800 pro with svid out that has the svid going to a tv to clone their desktop on?09:26
rr72lol09:26
rr72no09:26
Turtle_JPRuns what ever comes with the system in question09:26
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  egads... i do!09:26
KgB_i have gcc and gcc 4 installed here09:26
bl3ssingdeuce_, np. thanks anyway.09:26
rr72im against ati but i wont get into that cause its off topic09:26
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  got it going last night. :P09:26
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dr_willisgot both my ati machines working yesterday09:26
wckdkl0wndr_willis: care to tell me how?  i tryed last night and broke soemthing in my display lol09:27
deuce_bl3ssing: check your sources.list and compare to mine - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1932209:27
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  i followed that !ati wiki page.09:27
dr_willis!ati09:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:27
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deuce_bl3ssing:  i find amule and a few others with the search p2p09:27
wckdkl0wnok09:27
KgB_do anyone know why i got that problem? need i install more gcc's?09:27
dr_willisbut i think an imporntant step is  to reboot the machine so the modules get loaded right.09:27
rr72KgB_~ try changing the gcc compiler via EXPORT09:27
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rr72don't know the proper syntax09:28
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rr72KgB_~ forgoet i said taht09:28
dr_willisKgB_,  if you havent installed 'build-essential' do so,09:28
rr72different problem09:28
KgB_oh09:28
wckdkl0wndr_willis: yea i had a problem with a module or something cause i couldnt change anything in display even in administrator mode.. just came up with an error09:28
rr72thought it was differant09:28
bl3ssingdeuce_, already opened the source.list. What should I do now?09:28
KgB_build-essential.. i will search and istall09:28
KgB_thx :)09:28
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rr72lol i am sure i am the only one pressing enter to type09:28
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  yea - once i go tit going the res was all messed up. i then used the kde x config09:28
soulrideranyone knows of any good FPS games for linux?09:29
deuce_bl3ssing: compare it to mine and see if you are missing anything i have - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1932209:29
rr72soulrider~ doom09:29
rr72unreal09:29
bl3ssingcool deuce_ ... wait up. :)09:29
soulrideryea.. but free?09:29
JonathannIs there a way to run Java in x86-64 Firefox?09:29
osh_soulrider: kriger09:29
rr72americasarmy09:29
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bl3ssinggot it deuce. I didn't know what's with that http//paste...09:29
rr72soulrider~ thats free09:29
soulrideri gotta try enemi territory09:29
bl3ssingnow I'm comparing.09:29
bl3ssing:)09:29
rr72the tank game09:29
soulrideramericasarmy is propaganda, i refuse to play it09:29
rr72BZflag or somin09:29
KgB_Adept is really a great tool09:30
KgB_i just select and say to download and install :)09:30
rr72forget adept i just use apt-get and apt-cache09:30
KgB_i will get full hd soon so09:30
SpAwNsoulrider, ...but its free propoganda09:30
SpAwNlol09:30
KgB_but my apt-get have problems09:30
rr72SpAwN~ the xbox version isnt09:30
KgB_its dont find many things09:30
rr72but this is kubuntu not #xbox ;)09:31
KgB_not so many as adept :)09:31
SpAwNrr72, i dont realy ploay console games...was even unaware there was a aa's for console09:31
soulrideri gto a 1985 NES :P09:31
soulriderthast my only console09:31
SpAwNlol09:31
rr72i got mostly everything but this is #kubuntu not #games09:31
SpAwNnes came out in 85?09:31
rr72im getting off topic09:31
kilraeeverything is propaganda09:32
rr72if u banned everyone in a channel who got off topic at least once noone would be channels09:32
kilraeubuntu is propaganda09:32
SpAwNrr72, ...man let the offtopic go...u can say things off topic...its just when ppl try and get help and ppl are talking about sports or somthing...then it get sot be a problem09:32
KgB_i used linux for some mounths, slackware. but i found a MMORPG to windows called Conuqer Online, and played it for almost 2 years, but im trying stop and installed Ubuntu now09:32
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KgB_Conuqer*09:32
KgB_conquer*09:32
rr72KgB_~ i play WoW09:33
KgB_i dont want play anything anymore lol09:33
rr72playes runecraft for ever09:33
soulrideri used to play lineage 209:33
KgB_cuz its a waste of time09:33
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SpAwNrr72, or if u just STAY offtopic all the time..then its a prob09:33
rr72*played09:33
kilraebesides offtopic discussions often have some relevance, and they allow people to feel welcomed in the community and such09:33
rr72kilrae~ lol least u understand taht09:33
KgB_and when u start play, u want not stop to play09:33
dr_willislife is propaganda :P09:33
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dr_willisand I hate Americas Armies - befause i always die in the paratrooper  test. :)09:34
kilraeand it makes for a more interesting channel, more interesting means more users, more users means more people to help09:34
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KgB_ow sry09:34
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SpAwNdr_willis, that one i easy09:34
soulriderthat reminds me09:34
SpAwN*is09:34
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soulriderdo i have to install nvidia drivers or so they come already ?09:34
soulrideri tried mandrake once09:34
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soulriderand i couldnt play enemy territory because of that09:35
dr_willisbut tv out worked from the start for me with the ati cards... nvidia cards were a little more picky09:35
SpAwNsoulrider, u will need to install them if u havent already09:35
SpAwNsoulrider, enemy teritory is the best game ever imo09:35
rr72i had a signal 11 seg fault09:35
kilraei left 8GB free space so i can install other distros to play with without removing my main system09:35
soulrideri lvoe ET09:35
rr72off of kdm but i reinstalled my nvidia driver by hand and it works09:35
soulriderSpAwN: how do i install them ?09:36
SpAwNsoulrider, as do i.....i play every day ;D...09:36
rr72kilrae~ just get a bunch of computers09:36
sergiusensenemy t works better for me in lin09:36
KgB_aw, soulrider i remember me that i have a radeon 9250, do anyone know if the Ubuntu install it automatic on linux instalation?09:36
wckdkl0wndr_willis: how long did it take you to setup from that howto?09:36
rr72kilrae~ we have a lot09:36
SpAwNsoulrider, its realy easy...u set up your srouce list correct?09:36
SpAwN*source09:36
soulrideryes09:36
KgB_i want see that the linux can to make with my video card09:36
soulridereasysou8rce :D09:36
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  10 min or so.09:36
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dr_willisi did some reading.. so perhaos an hr total09:36
SpAwNsoulrider, type !nvidia in here09:36
soulrider!nvidia09:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:36
SpAwNsoulrider, its a matter of installing 2 packages09:37
KgB_!radeon09:37
soulridercool lol09:37
ubotuI know nothing about radeon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:37
h3sp4wnIf you are using the latest drivers from ati for fglrx (Which I would because it fixes the locking up on reboot issue) then you need to remember to take the highmem.h patch from inside fglrx-kernel-source09:37
KgB_oh09:37
soulrideri just installed abuse09:37
wckdkl0wnhow come this command doesnt work? gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:37
h3sp4wn(just copy it to linux-headers-*09:37
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soulrideri remember playign ti years ago09:37
KgB_!ati09:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:37
elDeucekilrae: that's what i'm doing later tonight after work09:37
KgB_aaahmm..09:37
dr_willisthe $ fglrxinfo   test - however failed  untill i rebooted.09:37
KgB_faster bot lol09:37
elDeucekilrae: kubuntu angered me for the last time09:37
SpAwNsoulrider, abuse?...never heard of it09:38
dr_willisand i alwo reccall commenting out  'load glx' in the x config09:38
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soulrideri think you ahd to shoot aliens09:38
kilraeelDeuce: try freebsd :P09:38
SpAwNsoulrider, ahh its another game...got ya09:38
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DaSkreechkilrae: eww :-)09:38
elDeucekilrae: nah, i give up on Linux. I just want it to be easy to convert an avi to dvd format and Linux makes you use 300 tools and the one do-it-all tool never compiles right, etc.... blah09:39
h3sp4wnelDeuce: Freebsd is fine to use if you don't use fglrx09:39
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KgB_well, when i used windows, i didnt want a best internet, but now with too many packages and cool programs to download,, i have anything better than my 600kbits09:39
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KgB_i want have09:39
kilraeelDeuce: true, i do still switch to windows for all my dvd and video needs09:39
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: Sorry for the delay.  No I don't have a capture card in my box at all09:39
dr_willisI got nice simple avi to dvd programs under windows... now if they would just WORK.... it would be nice.. but heck.. i cant trouble shoot them at all..09:40
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SpAwNsoulrider, u even play true combat:elite ...its a compleate mod of et.....its pretty much counter strike....but i personaly like tc:e more then cs or cs:s09:40
wckdkl0wni didnt have to edit that file because once i opened it everything was changed already09:40
elDeucedr_willis: i use Avi2Dvd and it works perfect everytime in windows09:40
h3sp4wnelDeuce: You just need a better version of ffmpeg probably09:40
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kilraeof course, ubuntu doesn't make it much easier with the whole freedom thing09:40
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  learning to edit the xorg.conf is test of manhood.09:40
KgB_guys, do u also think that Ubuntu could have xmms like official mp3 player? it should nice09:40
elDeuceh3sp4wn: i spent 3 days and 25 hours on trying every peice of linux tool to make a avi into dvd09:41
dr_willisi just want to know how my dvd-pvr can fit 6 hrs of video on a dvd.. :P and my programs can only fit like 3 hrs..09:41
KgB_and mozilla firefox too...09:41
SpAwNelDeuce, tovid will convert any vid to dvd formate....its very eas to use09:41
elDeucetried it - continued to crash09:41
DaSkreechSpeaking of DVDs what's the easiest way to turn a DVd into a mkv?09:42
elDeucemkvunixtool09:42
SpAwNelDeuce, well ive been using it for about 6 or 7 months and it works soooooooo good09:42
SpAwNelDeuce, also the guys here on #tovid are very very smart and helpfull....09:42
elDeuceSpAwN: come over to my house and make it work cuz i sure cant09:42
dr_willisI always seem to convert mkvs to avi. :)09:42
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dr_williswe need more video formats!!09:42
Chousukemkv is just a container.09:43
Chousukeand superior to avi.09:43
SpAwNelDeuce, well its somthing on your end... I and a porlby hundreds if not thousands of ppl use it succecfully09:43
dr_williswe meed  more front ends under windows that violate the GPL. :)09:43
Chousukein terms of features, at least.09:43
wckdkl0wndr_willis: i think it worked because when i restarted my resolution was sky high huge lol09:43
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  heh mine was  so high.. i couldent turn it DOWN.. i had to use the kde tools to do that.09:43
evil_cowsudo apt-get kde-desktop?09:43
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Did you make deb's of the ffmpeg from cvs in the end ?09:43
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evil_cowhow o install kde09:43
dr_willistv out at uber-high res is annoying.09:43
SpAwNh3sp4wn, no i actuay found a deb already made that had it enabled09:44
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KgB_evil_cow a good wuestion, i also want know lol09:44
DaSkreechYeah Iknow I want to convert a DVd to .ogg and . theora then wrap it in a mkv09:44
qbiswitam09:44
SpAwNh3sp4wn, u interested in it?09:44
qbispolay s?09:44
SpAwNh3sp4wn, i can pprobly dcc send it to u realy quick09:44
qbispolacy*09:44
wckdkl0wnwell i had svid working last night til i loaded linux then the refresh rate on teh tv went buggy and then lost signal09:44
dr_willisapt-get install kubuntu-desktop - clearly stated on the Kubuntu homepage. :P09:44
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evil_cowKgB_, c'mon09:44
KgB_evil_cow i downloaded kubuntu why i dunno do that09:45
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h3sp4wnSpAwN: Cheers I will have a look at it09:45
KgB_hmm09:45
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  the xorg.conf file can tweak that ..09:45
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  also the card has to convert the srceen down.. so super high res's may mess with ya.09:45
wckdkl0wndr_willis:  do you have svid hooked up now?09:45
evil_cowKgB_, i'm using ubuntu now09:45
SpAwNh3sp4wn, one sec man....i need to poke a hole in my firewall09:45
dr_willisin the basement :P yes09:45
KgB_dr_willis and for inverse? how install gnome? apt-get ubuntu-gnome ?09:46
DaSkreechChousuke: so the mkvunix tool can wrap anything I already have encoded?09:46
wckdkl0wndr_willis: what do i do in system settings - display? to get it to clone?09:46
dr_willisubuntu-desktop09:46
KgB_hmmm09:46
dr_williswckdkl0wn,  mine was cloning from the start.09:46
DaSkreechSo second question how do I rip a DVD to vorbis and theora? :)09:46
jordanwhere I can found theme for KDE and how to install them ?09:46
dr_willisi dident have to do anything with that to get it to clone09:46
DaSkreechjordan: kde-look.org09:47
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KgB_i will install here after that i download some packages..09:47
dr_willisthere are a large # of themes in the package manager09:47
wckdkl0wndr_willis: ok let me restart and i will hook back up the svid to the tv again and see what happens09:47
ChousukeDaSkreech: should be able to.09:47
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DaSkreechdr_willis: There are?09:47
elDeuce!mplayer09:47
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer09:47
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.09:47
jordanDaSkreech how to install them ?09:47
DaSkreechjordan: It will be on the page09:47
dr_willisDaSkreech,  yes... look for them :)09:48
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qbis#ubuntu-pl @ freenode.org09:48
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DaSkreechdr_willis: gimmie two examples :)09:48
KgB_jordan the page teach install :)09:48
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dr_willisDaSkreech,  i searched for themes ysterday in synatic and found several dozen icon and windowmanager themes.. and artwork for other programs/wallpaper09:48
nixsynatic?09:48
kilraeweird, xp setup tells me that my 80GB drive has 10TB unpartitioned space09:49
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DaSkreechkilrae: Take it and run!@!09:49
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nixkilrae: xp really has a stupid sense of humor09:49
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SpAwNstupid wireless...everytime i hit save on my router it drops conenctions...i have to modprobe -r ndiswrapper then reload it to make it woke09:49
fritschRiddell: still there?09:49
Riddellfritsch: hi09:49
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Which card are you using ? and driver ?09:50
fritschRiddell: do a strace kdostartupconfig > kdostartup.log 2>&109:50
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bluesceadacan you use a pc with a wlan card as a wlan hotspot?? or do they need a special card?09:50
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Are you using the ndiswrapper recommended driver for your chipset ?09:50
SpAwNum linksys wmp1109:50
fritschRiddell: I think it loops forever sarching /etc/kderc /etc/kde3/configglobals and at the end take nothing09:50
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SpAwNh3sp4wn, i update ndiswrapper every so often...09:51
TheGateKeeperbluesceada: don't think so, think you need a proper wireless router09:51
diane.09:51
bluesceadaTheGateKeeper: hm ok09:51
bluesceadaor some special card probaby09:51
bluesceadaprobably...09:51
diane.09:51
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KgB_anyone know any program that say "who is using the internet? what program is consuming the internet connection?" or so?09:51
SpAwNh3sp4wn, some reason my dcc is not working.........u know of a good file hoster...so i can stick it there for u09:52
fritschKgB_: tcpdump ;-)09:52
KgB_thx :)09:52
h3sp4wnSpAwN: yousendit.com ?09:52
TheGateKeeperbluesceada: easier to buy a wireless router, at least you know that works :-)09:52
bluesceadaok09:52
bluesceadathanks09:52
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jordanHow to check what's version of KDE I have ?09:53
DaSkreechdr_willis: Wallpaper you say?09:53
TheGateKeeperbluesceada: yw :-) for yourself?09:53
DaSkreechjordan: Open Random application and got to help09:53
h3sp4wnbluesceada: You definately can do that - what wireless card are you using ?09:53
DaSkreechgo to09:53
bluesceadah3sp4wn: thanks, it was just a question, i dont really want to do that09:53
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jordanoki I have 3.5.3 it's pl09:53
TheGateKeeperjordan: start a kde app Help -> about KDE09:53
jordanoki I have 3.5.3 it's ok ?09:53
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Martijn81anyone got the new basket tab in basket 0.6.0 beta working in kontact?09:54
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h3sp4wnbluesceada: If you are doing that make sure you get a card with a chipset supported by hostapd09:54
DaSkreechjordan: Sure09:54
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bluesceadah3sp4wn: okay thansk09:55
SpAwNh3sp4wn, http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=52BE154F6A3054FF   there ya go man09:55
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SpAwNh3sp4wn, ...im not even sure how old that one is...09:55
nik_hello09:55
jordanWhat do you thing abut vista themes for KUBUNTU  :U09:55
SpAwNh3sp4wn, but its been working for me09:55
nik_how to say konqueror that he should not open gwenview etc as kpart but as a standalone app?09:55
stef_hoi hoe kan iik een proggie instaleren09:55
TheGateKeeperh3sp4wn: bluesceada I stand corrected, talking about hostpad brings the previous conversation flooding back09:55
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TheGateKeeperbluesceada: rottern memory sorry :-(09:57
h3sp4wnTheGateKeeper: Hostapd is fine with atheros / prism maybe others the problems are only with using the bleeding edge rt2500 drivers with the devicescape hostapd cvs on amd 64)09:57
soulrideris it me or when you download form the repositories its not too fast :-/09:57
bluesceadaTheGateKeeper: ok :-)09:57
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, depends on what you're downloading09:57
soulridernvidia drivers09:58
Admiral_Chicagono as in it depends on what you're downloading09:58
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Ever thought of attempting to run linux on your router (depending on what model it is it may improve the reliability tremendously)09:58
soulriderah09:58
soulriderwell, i gtoa 512kb line09:58
soulriderand i see that not even 200kb are being used09:59
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SpAwNh3sp4wn, i have...but was weary about mucking around with it to much...i have it running the newest fireware.....but even when i talk to linksys....they tell me to connect directly to the internet....cuz its a known issue i guess...where when u save it drops the wireless connections about 60% of the time....10:00
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SpAwNh3sp4wn, but have u messed with it b4......or know of a good site or somthing?...10:00
TheGateKeeperh3sp4wn: thanx, think you have told me that before, and I must have a rottern memory :-)10:00
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Is it a linksys wrt54g ?10:00
SpAwNwell earlier i though i wanted to know my card......my router is a befw11s4 version 410:01
SpAwNwireless b router...10:01
SpAwNits actualy kinda old10:01
dr_willisi took back a linksys router - it was always dropping wireless.. like exactly every half hr...10:01
dr_willisya can get some really nice routers now a days for cheap10:02
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Do you know what version of the wireless card you have ?10:02
h3sp4wnSpAwN: (or what chipset it is ? is it broadcom ?)10:02
GiorgioI have a laptop and a PC running both on kubuntu at this moment and connected to the same router. How do i do to see one each other from the konsole?10:03
slow-motionn810:03
dr_willisGiorgio,  define 'see'  :)10:03
dr_willisya  can just ping each machine and that will show if the other is responding10:03
SpAwNh3sp4wn, i dont off the top of my head.....i havent messed with the wireless seince i figured out i could use ndis...10:04
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SpAwNdr_willis, i would like to get a new router...probly will10:04
dr_willisSpAwN,  i got that  Linksys Mini router  on sale for like $25 - its handy10:04
dr_willislittle lacking in features.. but heck - its the size of a pack of Cigs.10:04
soulrideri need some help, i tired installing the nvidia drivers, i follow the isntructions but they dont get installed correctly10:04
soulrider!nvidia10:04
SpAwNmini router?... whats that mean....10:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:04
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dr_willisIts little. :P10:05
SpAwNahhh10:05
SpAwNsoulrider, whats the prob man?10:05
fritschRiddell: in kini/kdostartupconfig.cpp for the return of 6, either the kderc oder the group is empty?10:05
soulriderwell, i downlaoded the correct package10:05
fritschRiddell: am I on the right way or totally wrong?10:05
soulriderbut when i put that line in my console i get an error10:05
soulrideri rebooted X10:05
soulriderand no nvidia logo, so it snot correctly isntalled10:05
SpAwNsoulrider, paste the error to pastbin pls10:05
dr_willisHmm..    the how to was about a 3 line cut/paste job i thought10:06
soulriderjust a sec10:06
h3sp4wnSpAwN: If you are in the US there is a guy on ebay selling gateway 7001 routers (rrp $300) for $55 - they are a/b/g and atheros (good enough for me to import one to the uk for an astronomical amount of shipping)10:06
HawkwindYou won't always get the nvidia splash screen.  Sometimes I see it, sometimes I don't and my nvidia drivers are always working10:06
dr_willisStolen routers? :P10:06
SpAwNhehe10:06
soulrideri paste it here ?10:06
dr_willisnvidis splash can show up/vanish fast if on a CRT10:06
SpAwNsoulrider, no10:07
RogueXAnyone know if there is an easy way to restart network services like in fedora you type" network services restart"10:07
soulriderim on an LCD10:07
h3sp4wndr_willis: They look reasonably legit but gateway doesn't sell them anymore10:07
SpAwN!pastebin10:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:07
dr_willis - /etc/init.d/network restart10:07
soulrideroh cool!10:07
dr_willis:)10:07
dr_willisreasonably legit. :) lol10:07
HawkwindSpAwN: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=gateway+700110:07
SpAwNh3sp4wn, i am us...east coast10:07
RogueXdr_willis: lol yea I got that one..10:07
Riddellfritsch: I don't see anything unusual in what it's doing there, it's just reading /etc/kderc each time it needs a config file10:08
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soulriderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1933010:08
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Those are what I would get now (openwrt is 97.5% working on them) but it is the last few that are getting sold off (with the right atheros card you can connect on both bands a and g at the same time)10:08
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SpAwNh3sp4wn, ...hmm so im gonna problt need a new wifi card also...10:09
fritschRiddell: mmh :-( what can i still strace?10:09
h3sp4wnSpAwN: The thing is if you get the router before it is nolonger available you can get the wifi card at anytime10:10
SpAwNsoulrider, u get the driver installed correct?...ie u insatlled the 2 packages that the how to told u to correct?.10:10
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soulrideri insatlled one package :-/10:10
SpAwNsoulrider, the other was already installed correct?10:10
Riddellfritsch: the method I want to look at is addPrefix in kstandarddirs.cpp, however my dapper compile doesn't want to compile so I'm stuck10:10
GiorgioI'm on my laptop called "myfirstlinux" and the PC is called "main". when i do "$ping myfirstlinux" iget response but i don't when i do "$ping main" . Is this the way that's supposed to be?10:10
fritschRiddell: I can recompile the kdelibs package10:10
fritschRiddell: if you have a patch against your source ...10:11
soulriderno, no packages installed, btu im nto gonna compile anything 3d, so i only need one fo them right ?10:11
SpAwNsoulrider, u need to install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules(for your kernel)10:11
soulridernvidia-glx.10:11
soulrideroh10:11
fritschRiddell: I downloaded apt-get source kdelibs4c2a from your packages10:11
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soulriderwhat i understood wa that it wa sinside the linux resitricted modules10:11
SpAwNsoulrider, uname -r then pick the linux-restricted-modules that matches the output of uname10:11
soulrideri gtoa  bunch of numbers10:12
soulrideri gotta search for that right ?10:12
SpAwNh3sp4wn, got ya.....i need to see what kinda money i have...im broke as a joke atm10:12
soulriderlinux restricted modules i sinstalled10:12
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soulrideronly thing thats not installed is: linux-headers10:13
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SpAwNsoulrider, k when i do uname -r i get "2.6.15-26-686" which is the kernel i am running u need to match the running kernel version to the linux resitricted modules10:13
jordanchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!10:13
soulrideri got the same10:13
jordancompilate error ?10:14
soulrideryes, i got the right one insatlled10:14
soulriderand i got anothe rone installed10:14
soulridertoo10:14
jordananybody can help me ?10:15
SpAwNk soulrider that fine10:15
SpAwNsoulrider, now try running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"10:15
dr_willisfire up the package manager and start installing the x developer files  I forget the exact name. :(10:15
SpAwNsoulrider, let me know if that says anything10:15
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dr_willis!b-e10:16
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:16
uniqjordan: try to install the package named 'xorg-dev'.10:16
ninHerhi all10:16
soulriderthe same error10:16
TheGateKeeperjordan: what are you trying to compile?10:16
SpAwNsoulrider, the one u posted me earlier?10:16
jordanevrythings i have this error10:16
soulrideryes10:17
dr_willisapt-get install build-essential   ( if you havent allready done so)10:17
SpAwNsoulrider, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:17
dr_willisThen theres all these dev packages that different programs need10:17
jordanuniq useing apt-get to install this package ?10:17
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uniqjordan: apt-get or adept.. your choice.10:17
TheGateKeeperjordan: ok put it another way, does the package you are trying to compile already exist in the repos?10:17
dr_willis!info xorg-dev10:17
ubotuxorg-dev: the X.Org development libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB10:17
SpAwNsoulrider, then scroll down to the "device" part10:17
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Netgear WGT634U are pretty well supported by openwrt also (and you can get them for about $20 now)10:18
soulriderok10:18
SpAwNh3sp4wn, damn 20 bucks...pretty cheap10:18
SpAwNsoulrider, u found that part?10:18
dr_willisheh10:18
jordanTheGateKeeper no this is the themes for KDE10:18
soulrideryes10:18
SpAwNwhat driver is it using?10:18
SpAwNnv?10:18
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soulrideryes10:18
TheGateKeeperjordan: ok :-) just checking10:18
dr_willisjordan,  what 'theme' ?10:18
SpAwNsoulrider, change nv to nvidia10:18
soulriderok10:19
h3sp4wnSpAwN: You have to be careful with them as its quite easy to brick them (and then you need to build a serial console to fix them) but once working they are really good10:19
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SpAwNsoulrider, wait one sec10:19
soulriderhow do i save10:19
soulriderok10:19
SpAwNsoulrider, `change it back to nv real quick10:19
soulriderok10:19
soulriderdone10:19
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jordanTheGateKeeper ok thanks I know i can use apt-get but I can't on this time :)10:19
ubuntuhi10:20
SpAwNk ctrl + x to save.....when u do its gonna ask u to save it...save it under a diff name10:20
soulriderwhat name should i use10:20
SpAwNsoulrider, so if anything goes wrong u can simply revert back to the working one u have now10:20
soulriderok10:20
SpAwNsoulrider, i used like xorg.conf.WORKING10:20
SpAwNor somthing similer10:20
dr_willisSpAwN,  Thats what I use! you cant do that! :P10:20
soulriderdone10:21
dr_willisxorg.conf.working_almost10:21
dr_willis:)10:21
jordanuniq thank's it's works :] 10:21
SpAwNdr_willis, but i called dibbs on it10:21
SpAwN:P10:21
dr_willisxorg.conf.working_almost_but_wrong_res10:21
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SpAwNsoulrider, once ya hae done that...go back reopen the original..xorg.conf and change drivers10:21
soulriderok10:21
ubuntuI'm in a small problem here...10:21
jordanehh :10:22
jordanmake10:22
jordanmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.10:22
h3sp4wnsoulrider: You may want composite (to enable all that stuff the easiest way is to use nvidia-xconfig)10:22
bluesceadahmm10:22
bluesceadai have a question10:22
dr_willisjordan,  you sure you even have to compile that theme?  (try make all, or make install)10:22
ubuntutrying to install kubuntu but for some reason the installer lets me only choose sda1 to install it10:22
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soulriderok, is aved the file10:22
soulriderwaht if somehtign goes wrong? :-/10:22
bluesceadaa friend has kubuntu and wants to just install security updates because of slow internet10:22
ubuntuI'd like to use sda2 for linux...10:22
bluesceadabut he also wants to be able to still just install some new packages10:22
SpAwNsoulrider, then when u are done u can try and restart x......if x doesnt start and u get droped back at a command line...simply do "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.WORKING /etc/X11/xorg.conf"10:22
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bluesceadanow it cant work when he just removes all other repositories then dapper-securiy10:23
bluesceadais there any other way to do it ?10:23
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soulriderlet me write it to a paper or soemthing10:23
jordantheme : lipstik-2.210:23
SpAwNsoulrider, yea good idea....it sucks to be stuck at cli and not know what to do10:23
h3sp4wnbluesceada: leave dapper main restricted multiverse universe and dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe10:23
soulriderindeed10:23
liviuxgood evening all. What do you think about Creative commons? (if someone know it)10:23
liviux'10:23
liviux?10:24
SpAwNsoulrider, just incase try this10:24
bluesceadah3sp4wn: wont it try to update stuff then?10:24
h3sp4wnbluesceada: dapper main restricted multiverse universe is locked (i.e you will never get updates from there)10:24
bluesceadaah10:24
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bluesceadabut it is still updated, right?10:24
bluesceadaso if he wants to install something, he installs the newest version10:24
soulriderok10:25
h3sp4wnNo he would install the released version10:25
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soulriderwish me luck!!!10:25
SpAwNsoulrider, if u get back at cli......change back the driver or xorg.conf to the working one....then do "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" to stop xorg......then "/etc/init.d/kdm start" to start it....somtimes i needed to do that10:25
bluesceadah3sp4wn: ew stupid :/10:25
jordandr_willis theme : lipstik-2.210:25
SpAwNcrap!10:25
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soulriderYAY!10:26
soulrideri saw the logo! :P10:26
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TheGateKeeperjordan: this will sicken you :-) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12730510:26
SpAwNsoulrider, good stuff man10:26
soulrideroh yes10:26
soulriderworking perfectly well10:26
soulrideri notices because if i makea  huge selection10:27
soulriderit wont lag10:27
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soulriderdman, you get a golder star SpAwN10:27
soulrider:D10:27
SpAwNsoulrider, now only time u will need to do that again is after a kernel update or a xorg update10:27
SpAwNsoulrider, that makes 5 starts for me now ;D10:27
SpAwNim "special"10:27
SpAwN:P10:27
soulriderok10:27
soulriderwhen a new kernels comes out, ill message you :P10:27
soulriderlol10:27
SpAwNhehe10:27
SpAwNi go by SpAwN rOOb or bLaZeD10:28
soulriderkk10:28
Giorgiowhy my two pc's dont 'see' one each other if they are connected to the same router? Must I add reserved mapping?10:28
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h3sp4wnGiorgio: What do you mean are you using static ip addresses ?10:30
Dihead*giggle*10:30
Giorgioh3sp4wn: When i connct to the web i have dinamical IP adress cause it's not the same one day to another10:31
GiorgioI dont know if i ansered your question10:31
h3sp4wnGiogio: Can your router allow you to set fixed ip addresses with dhcp (according to mac address)10:32
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w00thello10:34
w00t?10:34
Giorgioh3sp4wn: Are you talkin abut the internal IP addresses?10:34
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h3sp4wnGiorgio: Yes10:34
w00thello does anyone know how i can connect wirreless in konsole?10:34
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h3sp4wnw00t: sudo wpa_cli10:35
ubuntuany help for me with the partitioning problem?10:35
ubuntuwhat why can't I install kubuntu to sda2?10:35
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w00tno i mean to my ap there is no security on the moment:P?10:36
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h3sp4wnw00t: use iwconfig10:36
Lunar_Raven!cedega10:36
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega10:36
negociohow do i install .bin file10:36
ubuntufirst chmod a+x file.bin and then ./file.bin10:37
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Giorgioh3p4wn: my router seems to be unable to add reserved mapping dchp but the internal IP addresses are static (always the same)10:38
h3sp4wnw00t: iwconfig --help will tell you the options10:38
Giorgioh3sp4wn: my router seems to be unable to add reserved mapping dchp but the internal IP addresses are static (always the same)10:38
w00t:) ty i was looking there already:)10:38
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h3sp4wnGiorgio: And you cannot ping one from the other ?10:39
negociothanks10:39
negocioanother question10:39
h3sp4wnw00t: iwlist wlan0 scan (to get the ssid and channel)10:39
ubuntuanyone installed kubuntu here?10:39
h3sp4wn(or whatever interface name you have eg eth1 ath0 etc etc)10:39
negocioi have upgrade kubuntu, and now, i have english language instead spanish10:39
w00t:)10:39
w00tty10:39
Giorgioh3sp4wn: no, i just can ping both himself10:40
negocioi have select sp'anish and i have english anyway10:40
ubuntuwhy can't I choose any other destinations than sda1 for the root filesystem?!?10:40
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h3sp4wn!es10:41
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:41
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Giorgioh3sp4wn: when I installed Kubuntu i defined my username, the machine name and... I can't remember if I defined a workgroup name or some like this10:41
KgB_guys i was making a ./configure for install kasablanca FTP client and got the error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!10:41
KgB_well im using Kubuntu lol, ho can i get a x error?10:42
KgB_its right?10:42
h3sp4wnGiorgio: If you cannot ping one from the other then workgroup names etc are irrelevant10:42
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aseigoKgB_: that's because you don't have the dev packages installed.10:42
aseigoKgB_: easiest way to solve all that is to do sth like:10:43
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Giorgioh3spawn: I understand10:43
KgB_aseigo: ahmmm i must install x-dev?10:43
Diheadbuild-tools and gcc installed?10:43
aseigoapt-get build-dep kdebase10:43
h3sp4wnw00t: If you then want to set it permanent put something like wireless_essid Home underneath the interface in /etc/network/interfaces10:43
bl3ssingI hate ADEPT! :D .. hhehehehee... why this Adept's all the time coming with a READ-ONLY mode to me ... when I'm it's friend?10:43
bl3ssing:D10:43
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aseigothat will install every package needed to build kdebase and therefore pretty much satisfy any kde app's kde and related deps too for building10:43
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w00t..10:43
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h3sp4wnbl3ssing: Just use aptitude10:44
bl3ssingh3sp4wn, how?10:44
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: sudo aptitude10:44
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soulridererr guys i need some help, soemthign realy strange is happening10:45
KgB_let me try..10:45
soulrideri use a pppoe connection10:45
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soulriderand nothing cna use the internet except for konversation and kopete10:45
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: control t to get to the menu10:45
soulriderit shows as if i wa soffline10:45
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w00t_hello?10:48
w00t_?10:48
bl3ssingh3sp4wn, Got it. How can I find xmule ... to install it?10:48
bl3ssing:)10:48
w00t_aah back online:)10:48
bl3ssingwith aptitude?:)10:48
dr_willis_!info xmule10:48
ubotuxmule: eMule client for the edonkey2000 network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0b-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 891 kB, installed size 2800 kB10:48
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Robososhow can i find out the version of kubuntu?10:49
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: Quit the gui version and do sudo aptitude install xmule10:49
trappistRobosos: kde-config --version10:49
rr72u can also cat a file10:49
bl3ssingh3sp4wn, you mean the Adept (is this the gui ...?)10:49
rr72don't know which one tho10:49
jordanTheGateKeeper i can't download don't exist10:50
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: I thought you just ran aptitude ?10:50
uniqRobosos: in konsole: 'lsb_release -a'10:50
rr72uniq~ yeah thats the one10:50
bl3ssingyeap h3sp4wn I'm on it. How to quit the gui ...?10:50
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: control t - then quit10:50
Robososi wouldn't have the version of the other things...i would have the verions of the kubuntu...10:50
Giorgiowhen I put the internal IP address of my other PC  in firefox i get a message:" connection has been refused when trying to contact with 192.168.36"10:50
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: then sudo aptitude install xmule10:50
rr72thats not a alid ip[ address10:50
GiorgioDoes it mean something?10:51
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rr72Giorgio~ is apache or another webserver running?10:51
Robososwhat for a version of kubuntu use kde 3.4.3?10:51
Diheadyour ip address is too short10:51
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bl3ssingh3sp4wn, what was that site where I could send you the link of it with my problems?10:51
rr72try 192.168.3.610:51
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h3sp4wnbl3ssing: sudo aptitude search xmule (might also have helped you if you didn't know the package name exactly) or you can do it from the commandline gui but if you know exactly what you want using it10:51
Giorgiorr72: I didnot started any webserver10:52
h3sp4wn!pastebin10:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:52
dr_willis_thats a weird ip address. :P10:52
h3sp4wn!iproute210:52
ubotuI know nothing about iproute2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:52
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jordandr_willis theme : lipstik-2.210:53
jordanCan you help me :P ?10:53
dr_willis_!info lipstik10:53
ubotuPackage lipstik does not exist in dapper10:53
dr_willis_Heh..10:53
jordanehh10:53
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dr_willis_ya know theres thousands of themes you can get that you dont need to compile..10:54
dr_willis_:)10:54
KgB_really this channel have a excellent bot :)10:54
dr_willis_well hundreds10:54
bl3ssingh3sp4wn, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19334 ... there's the FBI information (any FBI worker here ...? :D)10:54
TheGateKeeperdr_willis_: jordan something exists here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kde-style-lipstik don't know if you can use it10:55
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w00t_pff10:56
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h3sp4wnbl3ssing: sudo dpkg --configure -a10:56
jordanTheGateKeeper tgz compilation :/10:56
h3sp4wnbl3ssing: Then try sudo aptitude install xmule10:56
jordanso what's themes are able to apt-get install ?:] 10:57
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elDeucebl3ssing: it's still not finding p2p  ?10:57
dr_willis_jordan,  fire up synaptic or whatever ya like and search for 'themes'10:57
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KgB_guys i must install a lib, called libgtk-x11.so.0, how i do it using apt-get? i already tried apt-get install libgtk, lib-gtk, libgtk-x11, lib x11.. but no one got any result. apt-get can download and install libs too?10:58
dr_willis_apt-get can install anything10:59
dr_willis_libs are just normal packatges10:59
dr_willis_try apt-cache search libgtk10:59
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dr_willis_!info libgtk10:59
ubotuPackage libgtk does not exist in dapper10:59
KgB_ok.. let me try..10:59
dr_willis_!info libgtk-x1110:59
ubotuPackage libgtk-x11 does not exist in dapper10:59
KgB_oh10:59
dr_willis_!info libgtk-dev10:59
ubotuPackage libgtk-dev does not exist in dapper10:59
jordanbut i cant's saw them :/10:59
dr_willis_Hmm.10:59
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jordandr_willis_ you use any themes11:00
jordan?11:00
w00t_h3sp4wn:P can u help me step by step:P11:00
w00t_interface is eth1 and essid is blaad:P11:01
KgB_dr_willis_ i did that, but it cant find libgtk-x11, but it found many others packages :)11:01
w00t_u know the command to connect?11:01
KgB_i need that for use eclipse11:01
h3sp4wnw00t_: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ?11:01
dr_willis_jordan,  i like the plasik theme11:01
dr_willis_!info eclipse11:02
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB11:02
h3sp4wnw00t_: Do you know its definately working i.e iwlist eth1 scan - works ?11:02
jordandr_willis_ how to install them ?11:02
dr_willis_apt-get install eclipse SHOULD install the needed packages for it.11:02
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w00t_yea11:02
dr_willis_jordan,  fire up synaptic, find some themes.. click on them and install11:02
KgB_let me try again...11:02
w00t_i get al the networks :)11:02
kilraei wonder why ubuntu says eastern time is GMT-0400 and windows says GMT-050011:02
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h3sp4wnw00t_: that means its ok pastebin /etc/network/interfaces and I will edit it and put the needed line in11:03
aliasfredkilrae: looks like daylight saving stuff11:03
w00t_bash: pastebin: command not found11:03
aliasfred:)11:03
w00t_i am real newbie:P\11:04
KgB_whoo hooo, finnaly the apt-get is working :) was the repos...11:04
uniq!pastebin > w00t_11:04
aliasfredhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:04
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kilraealiasfred: ah yes, so it is (i wiki'd it)11:04
aliasfredhe meant this pastebin :)11:04
KgB_dr_willis_  im downloading :)11:04
KgB_eclipse and dep, 124 mbs total11:05
dr_willis_:)11:05
tsdgeosRiddell: kickerrc was the offending file11:05
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=== dr_willis_ installs the lipstick theme.... not that impressive.. :P
jordanHow to get weather on deskop ?11:05
Riddelltsdgeos: hmm?11:05
marcofds11:05
bl3ssingHallelujah to the LORD! Finally got the xmule. :D God bless you h3sp4wn! Come here in Roselle, NJ ... and I'll give you a cup of tea! (Not drinking Alcohool ... no offense to anyone who's'n the opposite position :D)11:06
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KgB_afk for a bit.. waiting the eclipse download :)11:07
TheGateKeeperbl3ssing: is adept still in read-only mode?11:07
bl3ssingnot using Adept anymore. But aptitude. :D11:08
bl3ssingadept must be again in read only ... but I'm affraid of opening again.11:08
dr_willis_You are runnint adept as root?11:09
TheGateKeeperbl3ssing: personally I use synaptic11:09
dr_willis_jordan,  install that weatherfox extension for firefox - its much better11:09
dr_willis_jordan,  thers also a panel applet I think11:09
w00t_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1933511:09
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w00t_?11:10
bl3ssingin kubuntu?11:10
bl3ssinghow are you using synaptic TheGateKeeper ?11:10
bl3ssingthis xmule's not good for anything. :D ... how'll be the amule? better?11:11
w00t_,..,,11:11
h3sp4wnw00t_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19336 (remove the interfaces you don't need if you are not using eth0 then remove the auto eth0 also)11:11
h3sp4wnw00t_: then sudo ifup eth1 and it should just work11:11
farousbl3ssing: amule is ok here but still download speed even with high ID is a joke11:12
bl3ssingI'l try to install ... the amule program too.11:12
StrudelNinjaI just changed my color theme, but my taskbar didn't change, how can I force a change?11:12
bl3ssinggr...11:12
bl3ssingfarous, do you recommend me any other p2p free program?11:12
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farousbl3ssing: on amule you will find any thing you want just the download speed. torrent is much better now. limewire has ok speed but you will not find a lot of things you search for11:13
dr_willis_Torrents rule :P11:14
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soulrideri like torrents11:14
farousi agree dr_willis_11:14
soulriderim in some private trackers and i must tell you11:14
StrudelNinjathe only time I don't torrent is when I want one specific song11:14
soulriderthe speed is just awesome11:14
soulriderimax out my connection11:14
StrudelNinjathough usually if I like a band I'll download their whole discography11:14
StrudelNinjaeven if I never listen to it11:14
ymlHello is there some french kubuntu fan there because I need some help to setup the freeplayer11:14
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dr_willis_Heh11:14
h3sp4wndc++ is better than torrents for most things (well I was after unreleased psychedelic trance)11:14
faroush3sp4wn: lol so will google dc++11:15
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StrudelNinjameh I never liked DC much11:15
dr_willis_*meh*11:16
StrudelNinjaa lot of the good network things on it wanted me to share more than I had so I couldn't get on them11:16
dr_willis_:)11:16
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dr_willis_Sounds like the old BBS days!11:16
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faroushaha dc++ exper tech difficulties :(11:17
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h3sp4wnfarous: There is probably a linux client - don't really get any music of questionable origin now (But when you dj in clubs you need to have new music)11:17
bl3ssingfarous, I installed limewire. Where's located since I want to start it ... :D11:17
farousbl3ssing: how did you install it ?11:17
bobbydhi11:17
MikeMcANoob here.  I'm trying to get apache2 to handle .shtml files.  mod_include is enabled via a2enmod.  I'm getting an error saying Options +Includes wasn't set even though it is, in my httpd.conf file.  There's a comment in httpd.conf saying it's only there for backwards compat. reasons.  Should I be enabled includes somewhere else?  Thanks!11:18
faroush3sp4wn: am not so into music just books and non copyrighted movies11:18
TheGateKeeperbl3ssing: sometimes I use synaptic to install stuff or find what is installed or search for packages, other times I use apt-get to install things, depends what I am doing11:18
farousbl3ssing: anyway easiest way to type locate runLime.sh11:18
dr_willis_!limewire11:19
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.11:19
dr_willis_I perfer FrostWire :)11:19
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bobbydhi, my friend has an AMD64 and he gets a segfault when trying to compile with g++, is this a known issue?11:20
dr_willis_bobbyd,  first ive heard of it.11:20
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jordanhow to install xxx.deb ?11:20
dr_willis_dpkg -i whatever.deb11:20
bobbyddr_willis_: have you heard of a fix? :)11:20
fritschRiddell: btw. another problem kdm tells: Internal error: memory corruption detected, but it gets not killed11:20
dr_willis_!apt-get11:20
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:20
bl3ssingfarous, sudo aptitude install limewire11:20
farousdr_willis_: did not like it much was not at same level of limewire though now i find anythin i search for have a delete icon beside it that is utterly useless for me11:20
h3sp4wnjordan: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb11:20
gnomefreakjordan: sudo dpkg -i file.deb11:20
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farousbl3ssing: did not know it is in the official repos11:20
gnomefreakbl3ssing: no limewire is not in rpeos11:20
h3sp4wn!info gnut11:20
ubotuPackage gnut does not exist in dapper11:20
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gnomefreak!limewire11:21
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.11:21
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farousbl3ssing: you can use the package manager to searcch for it11:21
h3sp4wnI thought gnut was the best gnutella client (you could run it on a shell account and download really quickly with it - but this was in 2001 approximately11:21
farousgnomefreak: limewire is not in the ubuntu repos or is it?11:21
gnomefreakits not11:21
gnomefreakneither is frostwire11:21
farousgnomefreak: yah i thought so11:21
gnomefreakamule is iirc11:22
dr_willis_!frostwire11:22
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire11:22
fritschgnomefreak: did you did further into the ubuntu theme thing?11:22
farousbl3ssing: how did you install it from the repos then?11:22
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gnomefreakfritsch: what theme?11:23
bl3ssingdidn't install from repos, from konsole with that ocmmand: sudo aptitude install limewire11:23
fritschgnomefreak: the default settings problem in 3.5.411:23
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soulriderwhy dont you use frostwire ?11:23
farousbl3ssing: do you have non officialr repos in your sources.list file. What you said by the way mean you installed from the repos11:23
gnomefreakfritsch: no i havent looked at it since this morning if i get time i will look into it tomorrow11:23
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gnomefreakfritsch: ill grab hobbsee and see if she can duplicate it11:24
farousbl3ssing: my best guess that it is not installed. when you type sudo aptitude search limewire does it show as installed?11:24
bl3ssingI said that I installed by typing this command: sudo aptitude install limewire  (I thought this is a repos way ... )11:24
gnomefreakfarous: its not in repos aptitude wont show it11:24
gnomefreakbl3ssing: its not in ubuntu repos11:24
farousgnomefreak: he might have non official repos11:24
fritschgnomefreak: mmmh i looked some hours now and really cannot find anything :-( hoping on further11:24
gnomefreakbl3ssing: apt-cache policy limewire    is it installed and what repo is it in (repo will be one of last things)11:25
bl3ssingfarous, it is nothing showing me ... :(11:25
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omeowHow can I speed up the kubuntu boot process? It's taking forever to boot, plus it loads stuff like bluetooth and raid stuff that I won't be using.11:26
farousbl3ssing: just typing the command does not mean you installed the package :)11:26
gnomefreakfritsch: sorry ive been shoulder deep in bugs today11:26
bl3ssingfarous, but I've seen that it was installing ... :D11:27
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aliasfreddamn 30min of stress because i was looking at the wrong place to find a bug11:27
bl3ssinggnomefreak, unable to locate limeware file. :(11:27
dimsuzHi! is there some preference order of repositories in sources.list?11:28
fritschgnomefreak: yes no problem, it`s got the problem is reported and when it`s official fixed, that`s the best11:28
gnomefreakbl3ssing: than 10 to 1 its not installed apt-cache policy will show anything that is installed11:28
gnomefreakdimsuz: yes official ones11:28
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fritschgnomefreak: just hoped to could help a little more (but knowledge is at end)11:29
dimsuzgnomefreak: and how do I change that order?11:29
h3sp4wndimsuz: /etc/apt/preferences11:29
farousdimsuz: i think not sure though you can set perf in apt.conf file only11:29
bl3ssingthanks gnomefreak  got it.11:29
bl3ssing:)11:29
dimsuzgnomefreak: I added a repo which has a newest version of tellico, but apt-get install want's to install official one11:29
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fritschdimsuz: did you do apt-get update before?11:30
bl3ssingok guys. I got another question.11:30
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dimsuzfritsch: after I added that repository I updated. a minute ago :)11:30
h3sp4wndimsuz: aptitude install blah -t reponame11:31
dimsuzh3sp4wn: I don't have that file.... (/etc/preferences)11:31
dimsuzh3sp4wn: what's an 'aptitude'? (newbie here)11:31
dimsuz:)11:31
bl3ssinghow can I create a partition so that whenever I'm intalling the new linux OS, this partition not to be affected by anything (I mean ... I just want to save my downloaded files on this partition and whenever I want to reinstall the OS, this partition to protect my fiiles.)11:31
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bl3ssingfarous, gnomefreak ->> I'm full upgrading the Adept! :)11:32
dr_willis_bl3ssing,  you mean have your  /home on its own partition?11:32
Giorgiomust I have any server running to be able to connect my second PC from this one?11:32
h3sp4wndimsuz: /etc/apt/preferances - I know you wont have it but you need to work out how to pin specific apps - I don't know whether I know enough about it to explain it well11:32
bl3ssingdr_willis_, I mean ... I want to have another partition beside the etc2, etc3, root, and swap one!11:32
dimsuzh3sp4wn: rtfm, yes? :) Ok, I'll read man :)11:33
dr_willis_bl3ssing,  i normally make one at install time11:33
h3sp4wndimsuz: I will try to find something that explains it11:33
bl3ssingbut dr_willis_ what if I want to install a new OS over the older version one, and ... want to save my files? how can I do this?11:34
farousdimsuz: you can use adept or synaptic for pinning11:34
soulriderhow do i open a .run file? :P11:34
dimsuzh3sp4wn: I found man apt_preferences11:34
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gnomefreaksoulrider: sh file.run11:35
h3sp4wndimuz: http://www.argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html (look at the bottom part of that about unofficial sources)11:35
gnomefreaksoulrider: ou dont open them you run them11:35
Giorgiowhere can I get a complete list of irc-channels  linux-related?11:35
dimsuzfarous: at a quick glance -t helps me to fetch package from e.g. edgy? But that's not what I want. I want a package from not-official repository. Or should I RTFM more? :)11:35
soulrideri right cliekd a file on ym desktopa nd now its like frozen11:35
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dr_willis_bl3ssing,  if you had a home partition made, and stuff on it.. you just tell the new install to mount it. and not format it when installing11:35
h3sp4wndimuz: Make sure you pin that repo with a priority higher than dapper (just change unstable for dapper)11:35
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dr_willis_but that can cause issues at times.11:36
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gnomefreakbrb11:36
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malc_I have just installed kubuntu and amarok won't play music.  Xmms works fine but not amarok, I think it might be to do with the engine.  Anyone know how I fix this?11:37
soulridermy desktop wont respond :-/11:37
soulrideryou mean MP3 ?11:37
farousdimsuz: sorry do not know11:37
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draiksoulrider, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE11:38
dimsuzfarous: np, thank you very much for help! btw, can't find anything like "pin" in adept :)11:38
soulriderwont it close everything ?11:38
dr_willis_ya got to install some extra packatges for mp3s in amarok. and it crashes on me also11:38
draiksoulrider, yes it will, but it will kill your session and start a new fresh session11:38
soulrideroh, ok11:38
soulriderbrb :)11:39
malc_soulrider: yeah it is an mp3 file, I don't have any other formats that I can test though11:39
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farousdimsuz: i thought you want to hold a specific package so there is an option like force ver. equivalent to pining11:40
draiksoulrider, so did it work for you?11:40
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dimsuzfarous: ah, no :). Just want to install newer version. I almost found how to do that (in man). Thanks!11:41
farousdimsuz: good luck11:41
soulrideryes, it did, thanks!11:41
dimsuzfarous: thanks!11:42
draiksoulrider, np11:42
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farousdimsuz: i normally add the new repos. update then type aptitude install foo. if foo is installed it will be the only one upgraded to the newest ver11:42
faroustoo late :)11:43
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w00thi11:45
soulriderwhast XII ?11:45
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wckdkl0wnHawkwind: you still in here?11:46
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Lunar_Ravenhas anyone had trouble getting the nvidia 3d to work?  It says direct rendering is on, but cedega is telling me 3d isn't enabled11:47
wckdkl0wnHawkwind: can you give me the link again for your repos?11:47
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bl3ssingwhy while I updated the Adept, when it is asking me May I update your system [Y/n]  ... I press Y and ... it is showing me Illegal answer?11:47
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: Bookmark http://LinuxForDummies.org/11:48
soulrideri insatlled the nvidia drivers today11:48
Hawkwindwckdkl0wn: It's in the Ubuntu and Kubuntu sections11:48
wckdkl0wni had to just reinstall a min ago so i lost the bookmark lol11:48
malc_dr_willis_:  Do you know which extra packages those are?11:48
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bl3ssingI try to full update Adept. What should I answer to this question: May I update your system? [Y/n]  ->> I've already typed y, but ... it is answering me: illegal answer. Why?11:50
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HawkwindType Y or yes11:50
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w00thello?11:52
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ROngsohow do i install KDevelop11:54
ROngsosudo apt-get install KDevelop11:54
ROngsodon't work11:54
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ROngsocan't find the pakage11:54
Tm_T"sudo apt-get install kdevelop3" ?11:54
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ROngsogot universe and all so i don no11:54
wckdkl0wnthis might sound like a noob question but whats the command in terminal to edit the repos11:55
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ROngsoTm_T: chears :)11:55
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Tm_Twckdkl0wn: well, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" might help11:55
cpk2wckdkl0wn: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list would be easiest i think11:55
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Philip5wckdkl0wn: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:56
Tm_Twhoo, that makes triple11:56
cpk2kate is much more user friendly11:56
Philip5wckdkl0wn: or use the manage feature in adept11:56
soulriderim gonna download my first torrent with linux, wish me luck! :P11:56
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jhak88anyone: How to install bootsplash (Upower) in Dapper???11:57
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draikHas anyone here used QDvdAuthor?11:58
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ROngsoTm_T: uah I just need to apt-get update , I think i did it the first time with Adept on so it didn't work11:59
ROngsoall good now :)11:59
Tm_T:)11:59
cpk2!bootsplash12:00
ubotuI know nothing about bootsplash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:00
cpk2!info bootsplash12:00
ubotuPackage bootsplash does not exist in dapper12:00
cpk2!info upower12:00
ubotuPackage upower does not exist in dapper12:00
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fritsch!info usplash12:00
ubotuusplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 196 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc sparc ia64 hppa)12:00
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albertohola12:03
malc_with apt-get I am trying to install libxine-codecs but it says it doesn't exist.  I have added the multiverse thing to my sources.......any idea how I can get this package?12:03
albertohow can i register my nick?12:03
aliasfred!register12:04
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:04
peter_hello12:04
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aliasfredmalc_: do 'apt-get update' and then retry12:05
malc_aliasfred I have tried that but it still hasn't worked......out of interest can you see it with your sources?12:05
malc_Perhaps I am hunting for soemthing that doesn't exist anymore12:06
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aliasfredmalc_: duynno i dont run ubuntu :)12:06
cpk2!info libxine-codecs12:07
ubotuPackage libxine-codecs does not exist in dapper12:07
cpk2!info libxine-codec12:07
ubotuPackage libxine-codec does not exist in dapper12:07
h3sp4wn!info libxine-extracodecs12:07
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB12:07
cpk2guess he was searching for something that doesnt exist =P12:08
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