[12:13] <jim___> hello I am trying to install glib.  first i downloaded glib to the desktop in a folder, then I ran the following from a terminal (./configure --prefix=/usr &&) after that i ran make install and i am receiving errors
[12:21] <Agios> jim__: apt-get install, forget compiling your own glib
[12:21] <grizzly> is there some kind of "scripts repository" ?
[12:21] <jim___> i am new to this could you explain from the beginning at the terminal
[12:22] <grizzly> sudo apt-get install glib , just type this!
[12:23] <ewae> is somebody know a french channel please
[12:24] <jim___> when i type that in the terminal it returns reading package list - done, building dependency tree-done, couldn't find package glib
[12:24] <ewae> you need to add en entry to your sources.list
[12:25] <jim___> how do I do that (add an entry to the sources.list
[12:25] <grothesk_> jim__: I'm 100% sure that you already have a glibc in your system.
[12:25] <jim___> when I run anjunta, it comes up with an error concerning glib
[12:25] <grothesk_> Which error?
[12:26] <raven301_> jim__: This will help with your sources.list http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[12:26] <jim___> maybe an easier question, what is the best and easiest compiler for c that I can download
[12:26] <grothesk_> jim__: gcc
[12:26] <jim___> can i download gcc and from where
[12:27] <grothesk_> jim___: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[12:27] <scabootssca> is there a way to sort song files by bitrate?
[12:28] <jim___> when i run sudo apt-get install build-essentials it returns couldn't find package build-essentials
[12:28] <grothesk_> jim___: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:28] <grothesk_> without s Typo....
[12:29] <jesspher> does anybody kjnow how to configure wine the right way?
[12:33] <sk8kidk> Um, hey, When I open Konquerer and I type in google, nothing happens...
[12:34] <Agios> jim___: you probably want libc6 but your app may be wanting an older version or something
[12:34] <scabootssca> are you connected to the internet?
[12:34] <sk8kidk> Seems to be, because im using Konversation :-)
[12:34] <sk8kidk> oh wait
[12:34] <larson9999> i'm not connected to the internet
[12:35] <sk8kidk> nevermind...
[12:35] <larson9999> telepathy
[12:35] <sk8kidk> oh wait a sec
[12:35] <larson9999> jesspher: what's the right way?
[12:35] <jesspher> just how to configure it
[12:35] <sk8kidk> I got to google, but it takes like 2 minutes to load the page, and I've got DSL
[12:35] <sk8kidk> and im using an ethernet cable
[12:36] <Agios> sk8kidk: you might want to disable ipv6
[12:36] <larson9999> jesspher: the way i configure it is considered by many to be the wrong way.  but it works for me and is easy.  i use wine-tools
[12:36] <sk8kidk> ipv6?
[12:36] <grizzly> sk8kidk: don't ues konqueror?
[12:36] <sk8kidk> I use konqueror
[12:36] <Agios> yes, ipv6 causes some people serious performance network problens
[12:37] <sk8kidk> okay, ill try to figure out how to turn it off :)
[12:37] <Ace2005> Hi again
[12:37] <Ace2005> Does anyone know which is the most up to date KDE + XGL + Nvidia thread there is in the fourms?
[12:38] <Agios> sk8kidk: To disable ipv6 in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives please see item #8 on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 or this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 or you can also change alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to alias net-pf-10 off as root in this file: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[12:38] <sk8kidk> okay thanks a bunch
[12:39] <Agios> Ace2005: All I did was install nvidia-glx, run the config, bounce X
[12:40] <Agios> unless you have old hardware that should work
[12:40] <sk8kidk> could it also be that my computer is running at 450MHz? I dont think so...
[12:41] <larson9999> Agios: you switch from mandriva, too?  or was that another channel i saw you in?
[12:41] <unix_infidel> LOL
[12:42] <unix_infidel> i cant believe people still use mandriva :P
[12:43] <eamon> What's the root password in kubuntu? I fucked up and I need to log in as root to fix it:-/ :-/
[12:43] <unix_infidel> !root
[12:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:43] <Ace2005> Agios: What config?
[12:43] <unix_infidel> eamon: ^^^
[12:44] <eamon> I deleted my home folder
[12:44] <eamon> with sudo
[12:44] <lester__> lol
[12:44] <Agios> larson9999: I still have two mandriva boxes. I switchec my desktop box though.
[12:44] <eamon> I madee a new folder with the appropriate name but it wont work as my home folder
[12:45] <Ace2005> Agios: And also how did you tell KDM to use XGL?
[12:45] <eamon> Do I have to reinstall?
[12:45] <Agios> Ace2005: nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:45] <Agios> per the ubuntu nvidia instructions
[12:45] <unix_infidel> eamon: what do you mean you have a new home folder but it wont work as your home folder?
[12:45] <Agios> as far as I know it's using openGL
[12:45] <unix_infidel> eamon: explain what you did, how you did it and what SPECIFICALLY wont work with errors an dmaybe we can halp you.
[12:46] <Agios> I get well over 6000 fps so I don't care what it's using :)
[12:47] <Ace2005> Agios: Oh i see, i was asking about a guide on installing XGL on my system which uses KDE and an Nvidia card
[12:47] <Agios> unix_infidel: distro's come and distro's go, don't be knocking others for what distro they use.
[12:47] <kbrooks> Agios: define knock :-)
[12:48] <kbrooks> eamon: next time dont rm -rf x, rm -rf x/*
[12:49] <eamon> unix_infidel: Ok it's a long one. I wanted to copy back a home folder I had backed up from a previous distro, it wuoldn't let me overwight my home folder so I deleted it so that I could copy tha backup accross. Copying didn't work, it gave some mad error about the kde-media-manager not running. So I made a new folder with the same name as my last home folder and any time iI try to open konqueror I simply wont open
[12:49] <angasule> can anyone give me a good DNS server? my ISP's have gone crazy
[12:50] <apeman2020> surew
[12:50] <apeman2020> dns coming up
[12:50] <angasule> thanks
[12:50] <apeman2020> 66.235.59.6
[12:50] <Ace2005> How do i see which services are running now?
[12:50] <apeman2020> 66.235.59.7
[12:50] <apeman2020> enjoy
[12:50] <angasule> thanks, this was driving me nuts
[12:50] <Ace2005> Like lm-sensors, how do i see which ones are running, the ones started at startup?
[12:51] <Kr4t05> eamon: just reinstall.
[12:51] <apeman2020> i hope the works
[12:51] <apeman2020> let me know..
[12:52] <eamon> Kr4t05: so a stupid little mistake of deleting a home folder with *nothing* in it means I have to reinstall? That sucks
[12:52] <Kr4t05> eamon: Well, next time, don't delete your home folder. :)
[12:53] <lindolfo> yo ya'll
[12:53] <eamon> Kr4t05: well I assumed copying accross my old one would work but it didn't
[12:53] <Kr4t05> eamon: it's just one of those things.
[12:53] <Agios> eamon: have you fixed it yet?
[12:54] <eamon> Agios: nope
[12:54] <lindolfo> just for my records, what countries are you guys from?
[12:54] <eamon> ireland
[12:55] <lindolfo> (thanks eamon) anyone else willing to collaborate?
[12:55] <Agios> eamon: ls -ls /home and make sure your home directory is there owner and group should be your user.
[12:55] <Agios> eamon: if that is the case, close all open applications except a terminal, rm -rf .kde, then ctrl-alt-bksp to restart X
[12:56] <Ace2005> How do i make KDE use Compiz?
[12:56] <Agios> eamon: that will of course reset all of your kde settings
[12:56] <eamon> Agios: No programs will launch. Not even konsole. I can only use the programs I happened to have open before I deleted /home/eamon
[12:56] <lindolfo> well, thank you very much, have a good night or day
[12:57] <Agios> eamon: ok, reboot and select the recovery mode grub option, you will end up at a # prompt.
[12:57] <Agios> eamon: cd /home
[12:57] <eamon> aaight
[12:57] <Agios> eamon: rm -rf eamon, chown eamon:eamon eamon
[12:57] <Agios> eamon: reboot normally
[12:57] <eamon> Can I mount an ntfs external drive in recovery mode?
[12:58] <Agios> no idea, why would you need a ntfs drive in recovery mode?
[12:58] <Agios> recovery mode is to fix things
[12:58] <eamon> That's where my /home backup is
[12:59] <angasule> DNS didn't solve it :( I think my stupid ISP screwed up the 'transparent' proxy again
[12:59] <Agios> you put  linux backup data on a windows drive?
[12:59] <eamon> Agios: uh-huh
[01:00] <Agios> you need to get things working again before you try using that backup anyway
[01:00] <eamon> Agios: Thanks for your help
[01:00] <Agios> there are a couple of other files you need
[01:00] <Agios> uh, woops
[01:01] <angasule> how do I get MIDI playback working? I installed timidity, but it appears only timidity can play MIDI, I can't seem to start the daemon, and the wiki hasn't been updated since hoary
[01:02] <dibbon> Hello, my sound suddenly stopped working, it worked after my initial installation
[01:02] <wckdkl0wn> anyone else have a problem with firefox being extremely slow>?
[01:03] <dibbon> wckdklown: its probably your internet or low memory
[01:03] <wckdkl0wn> i am on cable
[01:03] <dibbon> Probably the website, or low memory
[01:03] <wckdkl0wn> but i can open the same site with konquer and its fast as hell
[01:03] <wckdkl0wn> but with firefox every site drags
[01:05] <eamon> recovery mode sucks :(
[01:05] <eamon> I'm gonna reinstall
[01:05] <eamon> bye
[01:09] <dibbon> If I try to start artsd, and it says cannot create mcop directory, does that mean that a semaphor is in place, or does it mean something is keeping Arts from starting
[01:12] <czmrly> d
[01:12] <zen> rus?
[01:12] <czmrly> hi
[01:13] <zen> do you speak for russia ?
[01:14] <zen> hi
[01:15] <dibbon> hello
[01:15] <vontux> how does one go about viewing the size of the hardrive that contains the root partition in ubuntu?
[01:15] <dibbon> use the command 'df
[01:15] <dibbon> '
[01:15] <vontux> df?
[01:15] <zen> blat; kto po russki tut govorit? zaebali molchat' churki mlaaa!! :-/
[01:15] <_susana> hola
[01:15] <dibbon> You'll see when you use it
[01:16] <zen> che za huina?
[01:17] <dibbon> df -h will put the bytes into gigabyte form so you don't have to do any calculating
[01:17] <vontux> dibbon: thx
[01:17] <zen> cje?
[01:17] <dibbon> yw
[01:19] <DrBair> i have a very unmodified smb.conf file that errors out with "Invalid parameter name in config. file" when I try to load samba. testparm is useless. any ideas?
[01:19] <zen> yw yw HUI!
[01:26] <DaSkreech> !ru
[01:26] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:32] <stummies> i have a problem with GL running sluggish
[01:32] <BluesKaj> I followed the instructions to config Xgl but all I did was screwup my X , so I'm wondering if anyone here has Xgl running in Dapper on ATI fglrx drivers
[01:33] <BluesKaj> stummies, what vid card you using ?
[01:33] <stummies> ATi
[01:33] <stummies> x1600
[01:34] <BluesKaj> ok cool , I've got the elcheapo xpress200 onboard
[01:34] <stummies> i finally got kubuntu to not lock on logout, but, the GL runs real sluggish, i tried a workaround, but it didnt help
[01:35] <BluesKaj> well, you got it to work at least
[01:35] <stummies> yeh, well, if i dont use fglrx, my refresh is too low
[01:36] <BluesKaj> uhuh
[01:36] <stummies> are you trying to get fglrx to run?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> i got fglrx going today on 2 machines. :P
[01:38] <BluesKaj> I have it running on X , but the help site says Xgl should run on my pc
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> I know better then to even touch xgl at this time.
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:39] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: its alpha
[01:39] <Agios> no wonder nobody can get it to work
[01:40] <kbrooks> define "no body"
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> ive seen it work on live cd's
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> and thats all ya need to get dizzy from the wiggly windows.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:41] <jeppelelle> can someone help me install java fron terminal ?
[01:41] <DaSkreech> !java
[01:41] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:41] <DaSkreech> jeppelelle: Read that
[01:41] <jeppelelle> ok
[01:42] <BluesKaj> I have the Kororaa live cd but even it froze after trying to bootinto the GUI
[01:43] <DrBair> i'm having some smb.conf issues. Its a pretty generic default file with a minor addon or two. Any help would be appreciated... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19262
[01:43] <Agios> nobody = any of the 14 people coming here today trying to get it to work unsuccessfully
[01:44] <MAJ> anyone know how to get tvtime or kdetv or something to run on a ati 9200 all in wonder tv card
[01:44] <jeppelelle> now i want to install JRE in konsoll
[01:44] <jeppelelle> how i doo that ?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> jeppelelle,  Huh?
[01:44] <jeppelelle> java runtime evironment
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> For the Sun Java runtime apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> like the bot just said.
[01:45] <MAJ> ??
[01:45] <jeppelelle> i hava installled it 10000 times, but i still cant play runescape :S
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> no idea there.. perhaps ruescape is the problem.
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> try
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> java --version
[01:46] <MAJ> anyone one know about tvcards for kubuntu
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> and see if it works.
[01:46] <jeppelelle> okej
[01:47] <chip42> might need to update-alternatives to select sun's jre vs gcj / gij-wrapper which is installed by default
[01:47] <MAJ> anyone?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> jeppelelle: Ohh You may want to run update-alternatives --config java
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> its possible that there are 2 java s nstalled.. that free one, and the official sun one.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> which would be fixed by DaSkreech 's answer. :P i think
[01:48] <BluesKaj> sorry MAJ, not me  :(
[01:48] <jeppelelle> how do i upfate ?
[01:48] <MAJ> ;(
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> yep.. my system showed 3 javas
[01:48] <jeppelelle> update*
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> sudo  update-alternatives --config java
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> and select the sun java
[01:49] <DaSkreech> perofal: Shoudl I ask?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:49] <perofal> na just in a old chanel I joined a lot of years ago
[01:49] <perofal> and I want them to remeber me
[01:49] <jeppelelle> i have update but it stil doesent works
[01:50] <MAJ> Guess no one wants to respond
[01:50] <BluesKaj> sorry MAJ, not me  :(
[01:51] <MAJ> thanks BluesKaj
[01:51] <BluesKaj> do i have to repeat myself ?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Didn't you just do it anyway?
[01:51] <jeppelelle> i have update but it stil doesent works
[01:53] <DaSkreech> jeppelelle: What's the Error?
[01:53] <jeppelelle> i just cant play runescape
[01:53] <DaSkreech> What happens?
[01:54] <jeppelelle> you need to install plugin
[01:56] <perofal> DaSkreech: dont worry I willll not change my nickname :p you can still love me :D
[01:56] <jeppelelle> aimwbody know a naice wallpaper site ?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Cause I was going to have to re do all my staliking notes :(
[01:56] <lnxkde> kde-look.org  animepaper.net
[01:57] <DaSkreech> jeppelelle: What plugin?
[02:02] <wolfmanz> Where does Kubuntu keeps its logo?
[02:08] <Riddell> wolfmanz: KubuntuArtwork on the wiki
[02:12] <wolfmanz> riddell thanks thats what i was looking for.
[02:17] <sk8kidk> what the hell is the root password?!
[02:17] <sk8kidk> Sorry, its annoying..
[02:17] <DaSkreech> !root
[02:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:18] <Hawkwind> sk8kidk: Everything is done with 'sudo'
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> there is no root password.
[02:18] <sk8kidk> okay..
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> direct logging in as root is disabled. the first users password is used to sudo To root.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Faq #1
[02:19] <jeppelelle> is some one runnig STEAM here ?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> jeppelelle,  you mean the HalfLife Steam Thing?
[02:19] <jeppelelle> Yes
[02:19] <jeppelelle> only STEAM
[02:19] <jeppelelle> WWW.STEAMPOWERED.com
[02:20] <jeppelelle> someone running that
[02:20] <sk8kidk> so, how do I use root commands?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> Ive heard it can work with cedega.. but proberly has  some issues
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> sudo commandToRunAsRoot
[02:20] <jeppelelle> cedega ?
[02:20] <jeppelelle> where can i find cedega ?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> cedega is a comercial variant of wine
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> How are you truying to run steam now?
[02:21] <jeppelelle> yes
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> I am assuming that Yes ment that you are trying to run STEAM with 'Wine" ?
[02:22] <jeppelelle> Yes
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> #winehq will proberly have details on that.. or the various wine forums/message boards. ive never tried Steam under WIne or Cedega.
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> I do know that it is supposed to work with Cedega
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> !cedega
[02:23] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[02:23] <eamon> what folder do win32 codecs go in for kaffeine?
[02:24] <k> hi.
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[02:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:24] <k> i know im root, BUT............
[02:24] <eamon> ooh you shouldn't irc as root
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> but its trivial to make a new user. :P
[02:24] <k> my kubuntu gui wont boot
[02:25] <k> Dr_Willis: this is NOT the server gui of kubuntu
[02:25] <k> eamon: of course its wrong for me to irc as root
[02:25] <jeppelelle> can someone help me get steam working, im using kubuntu
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> adduser bgates
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:25] <k> Dr_Willis: s/gui/version/
[02:25] <k> Dr_Willis: I dont want to add another user.
[02:26] <k> Dr_Willis: I have mine.
[02:26] <k> I need this "gui wont boot" problem fixed
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> jeppelelle,  you may wan tto read up on wine and do some googling.. Im not even sure wine can do steam at this time.
[02:26] <k> by gui, i mean kdm
[02:26] <jeppelelle> Okej
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> k - do you get any error messages when you 'startx' ?
[02:26] <k> kdm starts, but doesnt pop up
[02:26] <k> DrBair: i havent tried that, lets see
[02:28] <eamon> !resolution
[02:28] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:28] <jeppelelle> how do i doo to instal nvidia drivers ?
[02:28] <eamon> !nvidia
[02:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <eamon> jeppelelle: ^^^
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[02:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> lol
[02:33] <eamon> What folder does xine look in for win32 dlls?
[02:33] <eamon> sorry not xine, kaffiene
[02:33] <Lunar_Raven>  /usr/lib/win32
[02:33] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[02:34] <eamon> cool, thanx
[02:34] <Lunar_Raven> no problem
[02:35] <jeppelelle> can someone hlp mee install mp3 plugins foor amarok in terminal
[02:37] <abattoir> jeppelelle: you have multiverse enabled?
[02:37] <abattoir> !multiverse
[02:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:38] <jeppelelle> yes i have
[02:38] <abattoir> jeppelelle: ok, good....
[02:38] <eamon> !easysource
[02:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:38] <abattoir> jeppelelle: in a terminal execute 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[02:38] <abattoir> jeppelelle: make sure you have amarok closed completely before this...
[02:39] <jeppelelle> yes
[02:40] <jeppelelle> then ?
[02:41] <abattoir> jeppelelle: when installation is done, open up amarok and listen to your fav. mp3s :)
[02:41] <abattoir> (if it works that is :P)
[02:41] <Commander-Crowe> if I have the Kubuntu CD
[02:41] <Commander-Crowe> can I just add it to my already installed Ubuntu installation
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Commander-Crowe: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Commander-Crowe: That will install the KDE desktop for you on your Ubuntu install
[02:42] <abattoir> Commander-Crowe: yes, add it as a rpository.... check out apt-cdrom...
[02:42] <abattoir> *repostitory
[02:42] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[02:42] <abattoir> Commander-Crowe: then do what Hawkwind said above.
[02:42] <Commander-Crowe> I don't have internet often on that computer
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Commander-Crowe: Then do what abattoir said first :)
[02:42] <abattoir> Hawkwind: :)
[02:44] <eamon> could somebody who has installed tell me what repos they used to get libxine-extracodecs?
[02:44] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:44] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:44] <abattoir> eamon: multiverse^^^^
[02:44] <eamon> so I have to put "multiverse" after all my repos?
[02:44] <abattoir> eamon: open up adept....
[02:45] <eamon> huh?
[02:45] <eamon> cant I do it CLI?
[02:45] <eamon> Ok I opened adept
[02:45] <abattoir> eamon: ok, if that's your preferred method, 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:46] <jeppelelle> is there a famous program like Limewire i can use too downloade music ?
[02:46] <Hawkwind> !limewire
[02:46] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:46] <abattoir> jeppelelle: yes, limewire itself :(
[02:46] <eamon> lol
[02:46] <abattoir> eamon: manage repositories
[02:46] <Hawkwind> jeppelelle: Limewire is a pretty crappy app though.  Use something a bit better
[02:46] <eamon> abattoir: right
[02:47] <jeppelelle> recomend another ?
[02:47] <abattoir> eamon: you should see a line w/ distribution as 'dapper' and components as 'main restricted'
[02:47] <Hawkwind> jeppelelle: frostwire, apollon, or get invited to some private torrent sites :)
[02:47] <abattoir> jeppelelle: also make sure, the first phrase in that line is 'deb'....
[02:47] <abattoir> jeppelelle: found the line?
[02:47] <jeppelelle> ?
[02:47] <abattoir> jeppelelle: sometimes, its just the first line
[02:47] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Wrong person
[02:47] <jeppelelle> Frostwire doesent work for me
[02:47] <abattoir> jeppelelle: sorry, that was for eamon
[02:47] <abattoir> :P
[02:47] <Hawkwind> abattoir: You mean eamon :P
[02:48] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[02:48] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:48] <eamon> abattoir: found it
[02:48] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i blame tab-completion partly :P
[02:48] <abattoir> eamon: ok, double click on the part which says 'main restricted'
[02:48] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Hah.  That's what I like my tab completion, it goes by 'last spoke' in the channel :)
[02:48] <eamon> abattoir: change to 'multiverse'?
[02:49] <DaSkreech> jeppelelle: What dod you get when you run it from command line?
[02:49] <abattoir> eamon: and add universe, multiverse, so that it becomes, 'main restricted universe multiverse'
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Hi aseigo
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> anyone know if the newest ATI drivers allow suspend to RAM yet?
[02:49] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i'm sure konv. does that too, but i had to blame someone/something else :P
[02:49] <eamon> abattoir: ok thanks
[02:49] <abattoir> eamon: hit apply
[02:49] <jeppelelle> i cant install frostwire :S
[02:50] <jeppelelle> i cant install frostwire :S
[02:50] <abattoir> eamon: close and then 'Fetch updates'
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Anyone worked with dpkg-buildpackage before?
[02:50] <DaSkreech> jeppelelle: dpkg -i doesn't work?
[02:51] <eamon> abattoir: ok, i'll go back to cli now (I dont like that adept program, it's too complex :s)
[02:51] <jeppelelle> nope
[02:51] <abattoir> eamon: hehe, ok...
[02:51] <abattoir> eamon: do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:52] <eamon> k
[02:52] <abattoir> eamon: see if package lists are downloaded from universe/multiverse
[02:52] <abattoir> eamon: i.e do you see main, restricted, universe, multiverse on the screen?
[02:52] <abattoir> w/o any error msgs.
[02:52] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: is that tab completion a x-chat specific script?
[02:53] <eamon> abattoir: lots of 404s :(
[02:53] <abattoir> eamon: hmmm then i guess source-o-matic would be the best way for you....
[02:53] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[02:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:54] <jeppelelle> how do i install apollon in terminal ?
[02:54] <jeppelelle> how do i install apollon in terminal ?
[02:54] <abattoir> eamon: i'm guessing something was removed from the url, or wasnt added properly
[02:54] <eamon> abattoir: could you pastebin me your sources.list please? I used easysource and that's what fecked up my repos
[02:54] <abattoir> jeppelelle: 'sudo apt-get install apollon'
[02:54] <abattoir> eamon: hmm, ok... wait up, i have to fish out my dapper list...
[02:54] <eamon> k, thank you
[02:55] <jeppelelle> and after that ???
[02:55] <StrudelNinja> eek I have my taskbar on autohide and it's been working fine, it disappeared though and I can't get it back up
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Ignore my earlier query :)
[02:55] <abattoir> jeppelelle: was it installed? then 'apollon'
[02:55] <eamon> jeppelelle: then type apollon to run it
[02:55] <jeppelelle> Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT
[02:56] <StrudelNinja> is there a key shortcut to open my k-menu or something?
[02:56] <eamon> StrudelNinja: try pkilling kicker then launching it agin
[02:57] <abattoir> eamon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19266
[02:57] <eamon> thanks
[02:57] <StrudelNinja> ...pkilling kicker?
[02:57] <jeppelelle> where is the launcher icon ?
[02:57] <abattoir> eamon: actually you need only the second line, nothing else... :P
[02:58] <abattoir> StrudelNinja: Alt+F2 ->'killall kicker && kicker'
[02:58] <DaSkreech> StrudelNinja: Alt+F1
[02:58] <StrudelNinja> there we go
[02:58] <StrudelNinja> thanks
[02:58] <StrudelNinja> is it bad if it did it again
[02:59] <abattoir> StrudelNinja: what do you mean? if it disappears again... or if you execute the command?
[03:00] <DaSkreech> :-) Only if you don't want it to
[03:00] <abattoir> StrudelNinja: purists would ask you to do 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[03:00] <StrudelNinja> it disappeared after I did that command
[03:00] <StrudelNinja> so I did it again
[03:00] <StrudelNinja> and now it's stuck up ><
[03:00] <abattoir> StrudelNinja: maybe you need to turn off that thing if it doesnt work for you
[03:01] <StrudelNinja> yeah I did
[03:01] <StrudelNinja> I'll sort it out later
[03:01] <eamon> abattoir: aargh it no worky :(
[03:01] <StrudelNinja> but with the size of everything I need to make it work eventually
[03:01] <abattoir> eamon: what do you mean?
[03:02] <eamon> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[03:02] <eamon> that^^
[03:02] <eamon> Even with your repos
[03:02] <abattoir> eamon: you did a 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[03:02] <eamon> nope
[03:02] <DaSkreech> You may not have multiverse
[03:02] <eamon> do I have to do that first?
[03:02] <abattoir> eamon: you should do that
[03:02] <abattoir> eamon: that'd fetch the lates 'list' of packages from the repos
[03:02] <eamon> ok
[03:10] <eamon> abattoir: thanks, it's working now!
[03:10] <abattoir> eamon: you're welcome :)
[03:12] <Agios> eamon: got you home directory fixed I guess.
[03:12] <doggie> kubuntu rocks!!
[03:13] <abattoir> doggie: indeed :)
[03:15] <jeppelelle> how too install frostwire in terminal ?
[03:15] <abattoir> !frostwire
[03:15] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:15] <abattoir> jeppelelle: got the deb from their site/
[03:15] <abattoir> ?
[03:16] <jeppelelle> not working
[03:16] <abattoir> jeppelelle: what's the error? pastebin it if its large
[03:16] <abattoir> !pastebin
[03:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:17] <jeppelelle> it is on swedish :P
[03:17] <abattoir> jeppelelle: aah :)
[03:17] <jeppelelle> i know
[03:17] <DrBair> anyone use digikam and have it suddenly die?
[03:17] <abattoir> jeppelelle: well, post it anyways... i'll see if can make some sense out of it.. :P
[03:19] <eamon> Agios: I reinstaled ;)
[03:20] <eamon> *reinstalled
[03:20] <StrudelNinja> anyone happen to know how to change the background color of the popup when I hover over a buddy in gaim? The system default is grey and it doesn't go well with the yellow popup
[03:23] <StrudelNinja> guess not
[03:26] <Phantom784> i'm trying to install kubuntu but the iso won't burn (it keeps giving me an error at about 92%).  is there a way to install without burning a cd?
[03:27] <deuce868> Phantom784, did you check the mdsum of the iso?
[03:27] <Phantom784> yes, i did, and it was correct
[03:33] <doggie> what about the cd-rw??
[03:34] <Phantom784> it was an rw.  does that cause problems?
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Is there a shortcut key to jump to the Search bar in Konqui?
[03:47] <steven> Hey.
[03:50] <apeman2020> is there a good open source messaging server for ubuntu?
[03:51] <apeman2020> zimbra?
[03:52] <vigilante_> How can I make the K menu auto add installed programs?
[03:52] <xwolf-> how do i turn on color stripping on konversation?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> vigilante_,  if they are packaged right  - they should add icons therer.
[03:53] <vigilante_> Dr_Willis: they are packages from the official repos, and they are not adding icons
[03:53] <ampli> can someone tell me how can i write and delete things on my USB key
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> what packages?
[03:53] <MikeT> howdy
[03:53] <apeman2020> hi
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> ampli,  ya plug it in an it 'should' pop up on the desktop, or in that storage media menu
[03:54] <unix_infidel> anyone know a place to some SUPER cheap (Sub 5$) 80mm case fans?
[03:54] <abattoir> vigilante_: maybe the menu isnt updated yet...
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  ya may be better off getting some better ones in bulk.
[03:54] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: i need about 3, that's it :P
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> try tigerdirect.com
[03:55] <unix_infidel> unless you want in on the deal :P
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> 3 and you want to go cheap? gesh
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> shipping will cost more then the fans
[03:55] <MikeT> i have an annoying sound problem, its on the latest kubuntu....a program locks up the sound server for itself, i cant both, for example, use Skype and play a song on XMMS at the same time
[03:55] <vigilante_> Dr_Willis: SMARTpm for one
[03:55] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: yea.
[03:55] <abattoir> vigilante_: i dont think smart adds itself to the menu
[03:56] <ampli> Dr_Willis, it  did pop up but i cant write or delete anything on it
[03:56] <unix_infidel> the fans themselves locally are 5 dollars even + gas to go get them.
[03:56] <unix_infidel> + tax
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> ampli,  ya could mount it manually  or edit the fstab so a user can mount it.
[03:56] <KaiHanari> whats a good .aac -> .mp3 converter?
[03:56] <KaiHanari> compatable with aacPlus
[03:56] <ampli> Dr_Willis, and how can i do that
[03:58] <apeman2020> can someoone help me out with a samba set up?
[03:58] <MikeT> sound problems.....bah
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> mount /dev/sda1  /mnt/usbthing -t vrfat -r -o umask=0222
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> or similer
[03:59] <MikeT> sometimes i even have to restart artsd :/
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> or edit the fstab
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> oops
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount /dev/sda1  /mnt/usbthing -t vfat -r -o umask=0222
[03:59] <Agios> I have found that sometimes when installing using adept that the apps do not get added to the menus until you logout and back in.  You can also open the menu editor and click save and that will refresh them. Installing with apt-get does not seem to have that problem.
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> in fstab -->  /dev/sda1  /mnt/usbthing  vfat  user,rw,umask=0222                         0 0
[04:00] <wckdkl0wn> i am trying to take my radeon 9800 pro with svid out and clone it to my tv using svid.. but svid works up until it starts linux
[04:00] <wckdkl0wn> any ideas?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Hmm...
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> on my nvifdia card - the thing defaulted to the tv out.. so X was on the tv.. not the pc monitor
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> i used the twinview features to clone the monitor to the tv.
[04:01] <obf213> how do i update my flash player....i got it using apt-get so do i just sudo apt-get update
[04:02] <wckdkl0wn> twinview?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Nvidi's answer to the multi-monitor stuff
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=twinview+examples&btnG=Search
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> good luck
[04:08] <StrudelNinja> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp <--- which do I want, RPM or plain linux?
[04:10] <RadiantFire> StrudelNinja: you can install java from the repos
[04:10] <RadiantFire> StrudelNinja: apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[04:10] <RadiantFire> or -jdk
[04:10] <RadiantFire> one of those
[04:11] <apeman2020> need help creating a user..
[04:11] <RadiantFire> apeman2020: system-settings -> Users & Groups
[04:12] <MikeT> what would cause more than one program to not be able to share sound?
[04:12] <MikeT> IE: Skype works fine, but i cant hear XMMS
[04:13] <StrudelNinja> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[04:14] <Hawkwind> StrudelNinja: Why not install it from the repos
[04:14] <StrudelNinja> I just tried
[04:14] <Hawkwind> StrudelNinja: Follow the how-to
[04:14] <Hawkwind> !java
[04:14] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:15] <MikeT> apt-cache finds nothing of the sort, with the multiverse repo uncommented :p
[04:15] <StrudelNinja> aah, don't have that repos up
[04:16] <bimberi> MikeT: if you've uncommented, that's probably only the dapper-backports line?
[04:16] <MikeT> eh? no im using the multiverse
[04:16] <StrudelNinja> ...which one do I want to uncomment?
[04:17] <bimberi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:17] <Hawkwind> StrudelNinja: Read the how-to.  It tells you everything you need to know
[04:18] <MikeT> any ideas on my sound? :/
[04:18] <MikeT> ive been searching through forums all night, so far to no avail
[04:23] <apeman2020> why does ubuntu auto log me in as ROOT?
[04:23] <bkudria> where do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?
[04:25] <Hawkwind> apeman2020: It shouldn't
[04:25] <Hawkwind> apeman2020: There is no root account in Ubuntu.  It uses sudo
[04:25] <apeman2020> well, I am logged in as good ol' root
[04:25] <apeman2020> root@icebox:~#
[04:28] <RadiantFire> lol
[04:29] <RadiantFire> sudo su?
[04:29] <RadiantFire> yeah, getting to a root shell isn't that hard
[04:30] <apeman2020> ...
[04:30] <apeman2020> hard or not, its driving me up a wall
[04:30] <apeman2020> mess around as root, kill the tree!
[04:30] <apeman2020> i have two accounts created
[04:30] <apeman2020> and i cant seem to log in as either..
[04:30] <robotgeek> apeman2020: did you do the expert install?
[04:31] <apeman2020> roger
[04:31] <apeman2020> i did the server install
[04:31] <apeman2020> and then added KDE (kubuntu)
[04:31] <Lunar_Raven> is there any advantage to doing it that way?
[04:31] <Lunar_Raven> @apeman
[04:31] <Lunar_Raven> just wondering
[04:31] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[04:31] <apeman2020> i prefer the command line to the UI
[04:32] <Lunar_Raven> ah
[04:32] <apeman2020> but thats really the only benefit
[04:32] <apeman2020> I could also use some help with SAMBA configuration :(
[04:33] <robotgeek> apeman2020: hmm, i am not sure if that only creates the root user or so, sorry
[04:34] <apeman2020> i just want it to stop auto logging me in.. i dont get any prompt for user or pass..
[04:34] <robotgeek> apeman2020: anyways, in kubuntu there is a option in kdm or so, which you might need to change
[04:34] <apeman2020> which option is that brother?
[04:35] <robotgeek> apeman2020: System Settings -> Login Manager
[04:35] <bimberi> apeman2020: so it's booting up straight to a root shell?  sounds like it's booting into recovery mode by default perhaps
[04:35] <apeman2020> bimberi: that sounds about right
[04:36] <apeman2020> bimneri: I am going to do a restart and see if the UI will even boot..
[04:36] <apeman2020> brb
[04:37] <robotgeek> my machine has worked without any issues for far too long, i am losing "linux debuggin skills"
[04:37] <bimberi> apeman2020: check the grub configuration (line starting with 'default' in /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[04:37] <apeman2020> robotgeek: its been a long time, thats why i want to do everything through the command line
[04:37] <bimberi> robotgeek: :)
[04:38] <robotgeek> bimberi: havent needed to mess with anything for a really long time!
[04:38] <Lunar_Raven> kubuntu is quite stable
[04:38] <Lunar_Raven> i don't know that i've experienced any bugs
[04:38] <Lunar_Raven> for a long time
[04:38] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[04:38] <soulrider> hi eevryone
[04:38] <soulrider> i finally got rid of win :)
[04:39] <bimberi> robotgeek: oh well, have a few more beers, then open a root shell and see what damage you can do! ;)
[04:39] <soulrider> im making the switch =D
[04:39] <apeman2020> bimberi: i am not currently using any boot loader however.. should that matter?
[04:39] <bimberi> robotgeek: (i'm in #ubuntu-doc as well)
[04:39] <robotgeek> bimberi: yeah, right. never!
[04:39] <apeman2020> bimberi: i should change it to two?
[04:39] <soulrider> whatc ommand can i use to see what network connections i got active ?
[04:40] <bimberi> apeman2020: not sure what you mean.  you must have a boot loader of some sort surely
[04:40] <apeman2020> i start x from the command prompt
[04:41] <cpk2> soulrider: ifconfig should do it
[04:41] <soulrider> ah, thanks, iw as tryiong ipconfig
[04:42] <soulrider> adn how can ic onnect/disconenct my pppoe connection ?
[04:42] <bimberi> apeman2020: no what i mean is that perhaps the machine is booting into recovery mode (a root shell) automatically.  Check your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.  The line near the top starting with 'default'.  The number correspondends to which boot line will be used by default (numbering starts at 0)
[04:45] <bkudria> where do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?
[04:46] <bimberi> soulrider: once a connection is set up using pppoeconfig you can use something like 'pon dsl-provider' and 'poff dsl-provider' to start/stop
[04:47] <cpk2> dont worry bimberi i am right there with you
[04:47] <soulrider> ahh thanks!
[04:48] <bimberi> cpk2: ;)
[04:48] <bimberi> !pppoe
[04:48] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:48] <bimberi> soulrider: ^^^^^ (more details)
[04:48] <soulrider> thanks!
[04:49] <bimberi> np :)
[04:49] <soulrider> im a big newbie .P
[04:50] <soulrider> just installed today
[04:50] <soulrider> and not planning on going back to win, except for gaming :P
[04:50] <bkudria> where do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?
[04:50] <cpk2> dont need windows for gaming ;)
[04:50] <cpk2> !wine
[04:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:50] <cpk2> theres your gaming solution
[04:51] <bimberi> soulrider: onya!
[04:51] <soulrider> oh my
[04:51] <soulrider> i guess i wont need to see bills Os again :P
[04:51] <soulrider> not like i bought it anyways.... :P
[04:52] <StrudelNinja> hey, I installed sun-java5-plugin like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29#head-21b44ff330436e9f387606a337f458a3c2113a3e said and tried it, but it didn't work so I went to install it again and I got http://pastebin.ca/107654
[04:53] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: you have 64bit installed?
[04:53] <StrudelNinja> not that I know
[04:53] <soulrider> wont wine run slower than if i was running windows
[04:53] <soulrider> like, wont i get less FPS in games ?
[04:54] <cpk2> i have never noticed any problems
[04:54] <cpk2> and what fps game?
[04:54] <cpk2> quake and unreal are native to linux
[04:54] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: did you do the command that it suggested?
[04:55] <cpk2> soulrider: you can get cedega it might be more user friendly than wine
[04:55] <cpk2> but you are supposed to pay like 5 bucks or something for cedega
[04:55] <cpk2> !cedega
[04:55] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:55] <StrudelNinja> "Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu (Ubuntu only), or install the sun-java5-plugin package." <--- I took it to mean "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin"
[04:55] <soulrider> cant i get a serial anywhere :P
[04:55] <OOD> not here
[04:55] <OOD> use wine
[04:55] <archangel_> Hey all
[04:56] <OOD> it's getting much better at game compatibility
[04:56] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: it says run apt-get -f install
[04:56] <archangel_> How do I get the codec to play avi, wma, yada yada yada
[04:57] <archangel_> kaffiene says I need it
[04:57] <StrudelNinja> ok that looks like it sorta worked
[04:57] <StrudelNinja> got an error still
[04:57] <robotgeek> !codecs
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <StrudelNinja> http://pastebin.ca/107666
[04:58] <archangel_> cool thanx
[04:59] <StrudelNinja> that's the same error I got the first time I installed
[04:59] <StrudelNinja> or attempted to install
[05:00] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: you close adept/synaptic?
[05:00] <StrudelNinja> yeah
[05:00] <StrudelNinja> only thing I have open is konsole
[05:01] <cpk2> check ps aux and make sure you dont have it running
[05:01] <StrudelNinja> if I don't know what it is can I assume it's not running
[05:01] <cpk2> but it obviously is running
[05:02] <StrudelNinja> how would I close it? I've only had linux for a day
[05:02] <cpk2> adept/synaptic running is pretty much the only cause for that error
[05:02] <StrudelNinja> adept is closed
[05:02] <StrudelNinja> I don't have synaptic
[05:02] <cpk2> do "ps aux" in a terminal (you might want to maximize the terminal) and see if there is an adept listed
[05:02] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: sudo killall adept; sudo killall dpkg; sudo killall apt-get
[05:03] <cpk2> that works too
[05:05] <robotgeek> jmichaelx: wireless works?
[05:05] <jmichaelx> robotgeek: :-D
[05:05] <jmichaelx> robotgeek: yes, it is working well, and definitely faster than 11 mbps
[05:06] <jmichaelx> it seems to be at full speed
[05:06] <robotgeek> jmichaelx: very cool
[05:06] <jmichaelx> very
[05:06] <cpk2> i finally got my stupid wireless card to work
[05:06] <cpk2> i had to have a chipset that only works with ndiswrapper
[05:07] <jmichaelx> this saved me from yet another reinstallation.... i have no idea why installing the os driver worked this time, but didn't the first time i tried it
[05:07] <jmichaelx> cpk2: what chipse is it?
[05:07] <robotgeek> jmichaelx: firmware?
[05:07] <cpk2> marvell
[05:08] <jmichaelx> robotgeek: i used fwcutter to extract the firmware last time, too. but for some reason it was not successful
[05:08] <jmichaelx> hmm, marvell, never heard of it. but... if it works with ndiswrapper, that is worth something
[05:08] <robotgeek> jmichaelx: well, who cares as long as it works now :)
[05:09] <StrudelNinja> I did what you said, robotgeek, but it's giving me the same error
[05:09] <jmichaelx> robotgeek: exactly lol
[05:09] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: you check "ps aux"?
[05:10] <StrudelNinja> yeah
[05:10] <archangel_> how can I fix this?
[05:10] <archangel_> A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: wmvdmod.dll
[05:10] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: did yo urun easyubuntu?
[05:10] <StrudelNinja> there were some adepts open so I killed them
[05:10] <StrudelNinja> what's easyubuntu
[05:10] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: did they actually close or are they still up?
[05:11] <StrudelNinja> they're closed now
[05:11] <abattoir> !easyubuntu
[05:11] <archangel_> I couldnt find all the codecs I needed in adept
[05:11] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:11] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: i am one of the devs, i have seen this error before :)
[05:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hi :)
[05:11] <StrudelNinja> lemme try this easyubuntu
[05:11] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:11] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: it wont solve anything, you need to fix issue at hand!
[05:12] <jmichaelx> abattoir: howdy
[05:13] <StrudelNinja> ok...how do I do that
[05:13] <jmichaelx> abattoir: good to see you tonight
[05:13] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: "lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[05:14] <StrudelNinja> should I have seen something happen when I did that
[05:14] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: well, if there is not output, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[05:18] <jmichaelx> now that the wireless is working so well on this laptop, i think i may get rid of the windows partition :-D
[05:19] <cpk2> if i didnt have a girlfriend i might be completely free of windows
[05:20] <jmichaelx> girlfriends are frequently incompatible with linux, i have noticed
[05:20] <OOD> haha
[05:20] <cpk2> cant even use wine or ndiswrapper on them =P
[05:20] <jmichaelx> i know
[05:21] <freddysatellite> anybody into java?
[05:22] <Perseid0> Hi. Having sound problems. My sound card is detected and works in Amarok, Kaffeine and Neverwinter Nights, but not in KDE itself. No system sounds, Test Sound does nothing and Rosegarden locks up the computer. Any ideas?
[05:22] <StrudelNinja> how long should this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a take
[05:23] <OOD> Perseid0: use a different sound system for KDE
[05:23] <OOD> go so system settings->Sound & multimedia->Hardware
[05:24] <Perseid0> I've tried that. They all do the same thing.
[05:25] <freddysatellite> anybody do java programming?
[05:26] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: should be almost immediate
[05:26] <StrudelNinja> I've been having to go through a bunch of dialogs
[05:26] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: yes, some
[05:26] <robotgeek> looks like i gave you the wrong command, shoot
[05:27] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, what ide do you use?
[05:27] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: eclipse
[05:28] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, and any speciall plug in like myeclipse?
[05:28] <McScruff> lo all, im haveing ram issues with kde, is 512 not enough with kubuntu....
[05:28] <McScruff> Sysinfo for 'laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), , RAM: 488/495MB, 97 proc's, 14.5h up
[05:29] <McScruff> nearly all my ram...
[05:29] <bobdsfdfs> !repos
[05:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:29] <mister_roboto> subclipse for subversion access and been playing with wtp, that's it.  cdt for c++ code but don't use that for real coding
[05:29] <bobdsfdfs> !easysource
[05:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:29] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: subclipse for subversion access and been playing with wtp, that's it.  cdt for c++ code but don't use that for real coding
[05:29] <abattoir> McScruff: that's pretty normal, that's how Linux manages memory
[05:29] <abattoir> McScruff: it caches stuff, and optimizes memory usage
[05:30] <robotgeek> i heard eclipse with pydev is good, but i cant use it.
[05:30] <McScruff> abattoir: then why does it seem to run so slow?
[05:30] <robotgeek> McScruff: you might want to turn off all crap like tooltips, translucency etc
[05:30] <abattoir> McScruff: could you explain what you mean by 'slow'?
[05:30] <robotgeek> System Settings -> Appearance
[05:30] <cpk2> McScruff: my top shows about 480 mB of ram being used
[05:31] <abattoir> McScruff: is the cursor movement slow? do appllications take a lot of time to launch?....
[05:31] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, thanks, i use eclipse and myeclipse but on windows
[05:31] <McScruff> abattoir: applications sometimes take a while, boot-up isnt great, and running a few apps makes the curser run slow
[05:31] <Flosoft> hey
[05:31] <Flosoft> how can I set the gcc export variable or something like that?
[05:32] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, subversion, i did not know about the plug in. I use it outside the ide (very dirty by the way)
[05:32] <McScruff> abattoir: 5.10 was fine tho :S
[05:32] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, how good is the plug in?
[05:33] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i use command line on unix.   subclipse plugin used to be not so hot a year ago but it's very good now. as good or better than the cvs plugin that is built in
[05:33] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i mean how well it integrates with the ide. (i am not going into CVS).
[05:33] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: it's very well integrated. easy to use if you understand how svn works
[05:33] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i do I have been using svn for a while now.
[05:34] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i'll try it..
[05:34] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: if you've used the cvs plugin, it's very close to that - similar menus and such.
[05:35] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: well worth the time to use it. save you from having to go out to shell to manipulate svn. you can see what changed directly from a synchronized view in eclipse
[05:35] <mister_roboto> works well
[05:36] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i had never used the cvs plug in, i preferred to use the shell (cause i did not know about the plug in), i don't trust cvs on very large projects.
[05:36] <abattoir> McScruff: have you checked CPU usage?
[05:36] <McScruff> yep
[05:36] <McScruff> abattoir: that isnt too bad (expect when running java)
[05:36] <abattoir> McScruff: its not 100% when the computer slows down?(or even high)
[05:37] <McScruff> the only thing i can relate it to is when you use windows and it runs like a dog
[05:37] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, have you tried netbeans?
[05:37] <soulrider> allways you mean ?
[05:37] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i used cvs heavily for about 5 years without a problem. of course, without having atomic commits, some of that is a little lucky. a few times i had to manually go in and release locks and stuff
[05:37] <soulrider> to write java apps i use Eclipse :P
[05:37] <abattoir> McScruff: heh, i know that feeling :)
[05:37] <StrudelNinja> I mean if this were XP I'd restart and try again but I doubt that's going to fix whatever problem I have
[05:37] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i loaded it one day and played with it for a couple of hours but never really used it, no
[05:38] <McScruff> abattoir: i cant put my finger on it but when i used zenwalk it was 10 times quicker
[05:38] <abattoir> McScruff: i have lesser memory than you, and it works well for me...
[05:38] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: looks nice but we standardized on eclipse at work so i just go with it
[05:38] <abattoir> Sysinfo for 'abattoir': Linux 2.6.17-5-amd64-k8 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology ML-30 at 800 MHz (1600 bogomips), HD: 36/46GB, RAM: 224/307MB, 82 proc's, 1.2d up
[05:38] <abattoir> McScruff: ^^^^
[05:38] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, it is nice, but still need more features
[05:38] <cpk2> zombies?
[05:38] <McScruff> Sysinfo for 'laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), , RAM: 484/495MB, 95 proc's, 14.15h up
[05:38] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, there aren't many netbeans plug ins to cover the holes.
[05:39] <McScruff> abattoir: im running alot more procs
[05:39] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: yes, eclipse seems to be grabbing all the mindshare
[05:39] <cpk2> lol 95 procs? not very many
[05:39] <abattoir> McScruff: McScruff, i just restarted X now, so generally i run about the same no., so i guess that doesnt matter
[05:39] <SpAwN> has anyone ever had cedega/wine cause there computer to suddenly reboot...ive had it happened probly 4 or 5 times...to the pooint of where im weary of using anything with wine?
[05:39] <abattoir> McScruff: same no. as you, that is
[05:39] <McScruff> abattoir: u using kde svn?
[05:39] <StrudelNinja> robotgeek: happen to know what the right command is?
[05:40] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i was using netbeans, but after i started to use eclipse, i chose eclipse
[05:40] <abattoir> McScruff: nope
[05:40] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, more choices
[05:40] <McScruff> abattoir: i didnt think 3.5.4 was out
[05:40] <abattoir> McScruff: hmm, not yet announced, am running edgy...
[05:40] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: hmm, just try to install something with apt-get, it shoudl tell you
[05:41] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, on the cvs, i have to synchronized remotely from time to time, when the connection failed.. locks, etc.
[05:41] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i was happy to see callisto, where they specified all the packages of plugins that work together flawlessly. was a pita tracking down cdt and wtp separately, for instance. wish they would just build in subclipse too, but it's easy to just go grab that
[05:41] <McScruff> abattoir: also have you got a link to sort the kernel out, it runs too much crap :P
[05:41] <abattoir> McScruff: you want to remove modules that load automatically?
[05:41] <cpk2> McScruff: i have 109 procs and no problems here, on a laptop with 512 mem
[05:41] <StrudelNinja> k I tried to install kblackbox but I got nearly the same errors
[05:42] <abattoir> McScruff: so, i'd say its not a memory issue
[05:42] <McScruff> abattoir: i want to remove stuff i dont need
[05:42] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, you have shown me another one, i have seen the callisto ad on eclipse website, but did not pay attention to it.
[05:42] <McScruff> hmm, i think its just kde and im used to xfce speed
[05:43] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: you should check it out. the callisto repository has all the major plugins right there, very easy to get many things you used to have to track down separately. and it just works :)
[05:43] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i should warn you... i found that installing subclipse last worked with callisto but if i installed it before wtp and cdt, i was having some problems that i never got to the bottom of
[05:44] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i am a wanna get rid of windows user, do you use linux as your primary OS?
[05:44] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i think it's due to the fact that the subclipse plugin for eclipse 3.2 is not yet final code
[05:44] <abattoir> McScruff: well, if your cursor movements are not smooth, for eg., i'd say its something else
[05:44] <StrudelNinja> http://pastebin.ca/107772 <--- copy of the konsole session
[05:44] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i use it at home but develop at work on windows and hpux
[05:45] <McScruff> abattoir: but i also wanna speed up the bootup :P
[05:45] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i want to migrate to linux, safer that windows
[05:45] <StrudelNinja> should I try to install sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb and sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb ...?
[05:45] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i am testing ubuntu for the moment
[05:46] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: do you get an error if you try to use adept?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: unfortunately, when i want to vpn in to work, i have to use windows as well because the vpn is based on an activex control
[05:46] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: been using ubuntu for almost a year.  i like it
[05:46] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, have you tried wine?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: since hoary hedgehog :)
[05:46] <abattoir> McScruff: this might help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[05:46] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i drink wine all the time!
[05:47] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, nice :)
[05:47] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: sudo!
[05:47] <StrudelNinja> I can't even get adept to open now
[05:47] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: i haven't tried running ie in wine with the activex control if that's what you mean
[05:47] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: sudo apt-get install foo
[05:47] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: just figured it wouldn't work since it needs to hookk the tcp stack
[05:47] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, give it a try, it might work
[05:48] <cpk2> lol just noticed he didnt do apt-get -f install as sudo
[05:48] <StrudelNinja> same errors
[05:48] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: sorry, did not notice
[05:48] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i am trying to run a windows application that connects to mysql thru tcp/ip, and that part is working
[05:48] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: you're right, it's worth trying
[05:48] <StrudelNinja> 'tis ok
[05:49] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: yes but that's easy. just a normal socket connection.  vpn is a bit trickier
[05:49] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: i think killing adept while java installation messed it up.
[05:49] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: but it might work
[05:49] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: sudo might have to edit that file manually to fix the error.
[05:49] <robotgeek> you, err
[05:49] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, the point is that i just install my application and run it.. that's it
[05:49] <cpk2> hmm whats the dpkg command? dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[05:49] <mister_roboto> freddysatellite: point taken. i'll give it a try
[05:50] <freddysatellite> but for what i've tested if the application is complex, BUM!!
[05:50] <StrudelNinja> what file
[05:50] <robotgeek>  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:50] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure java
[05:50] <soulrider> err, like 10 mins ago i clicked ona  file... and my desktop wont respond ;P
[05:50] <StrudelNinja> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p                                                              rocess
[05:51] <StrudelNinja> er, without that giant gap
[05:51] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: and "sudo lsof  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" gives?
[05:51] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, mine has a few small program and the big main one. the smallers are flawlesly working, but the big one just shutdown without any warning.
[05:51] <StrudelNinja> dpkg-reco 23462 root    7rW  REG    8,1 55504 16877167 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:51] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, i think the vpn layer is complex, but is not big.
[05:51] <robotgeek> sudo kill -9 23462
[05:52] <freddysatellite> mister_roboto, hope it works for you.
[05:52] <cpk2> robotgeek: hooray now he can apt-get!
[05:52] <StrudelNinja> ok, try java install again now?
[05:52] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: sudo dpkg-reconfigure java
[05:53] <StrudelNinja> http://pastebin.ca/107795
[05:54] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: oh ok i thought you had already tried to get java but it failed, so if you are trying to just get jave do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:54] <cpk2> java*
[05:56] <StrudelNinja> excellent, it works now
[05:56] <StrudelNinja> finally
[05:56] <StrudelNinja> thanks
[05:56] <robotgeek> StrudelNinja: cool
[05:57] <soulrider> hi, im back :P
[05:57] <cpk2> StrudelNinja: you had a process hiding out locking up apt-get ;)
[05:57] <Perseid0> Hmm. I also have no MIDI whatsoever.
[05:57] <StrudelNinja> I see
[05:58] <cpk2> adept or something was probably hiding from you
[06:01] <soulrider> guys, im trying to isnatllt he multimedia codecs and i put libxine-extracodecs in adept to search for them
[06:01] <soulrider> but i get 0 results
[06:02] <cpk2> !easysourcew
[06:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysourcew - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:02] <cpk2> !easysource
[06:02] <soulrider> and i believe all the repositories area ctivated
[06:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:02] <abattoir> soulrider: make sure you have the 'multiverse' repository enabled
[06:02] <soulrider> yes, i do
[06:02] <soulrider> i just checked
[06:02] <abattoir> soulrider: hmm, also make sure you have enabled it for 'dapper'....
[06:02] <abattoir> soulrider: many people often enable it for 'dapper-backports'
[06:03] <soulrider> uhm, hang on
[06:03] <abattoir> where 'dapper' and 'dapper-backports' refer to the distribution, of course
[06:03] <soulrider> i just clicked on fetch updates :P
[06:03] <abattoir> soulrider: aah, yes, i thought you'd done that :)
[06:03] <cpk2> hehe
[06:04] <soulrider> uhm yes, its for dapper-backports
[06:04] <soulrider> i need dapper right ?
[06:04] <abattoir> soulrider: yes :)
[06:04] <soulrider> what do i do? :/
[06:04] <cpk2> soulrider !easysource
[06:05] <soulrider> pretend youre talkign toa  retard :P
[06:05] <cpk2> !easysource
[06:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:05] <abattoir> soulrider: enable it for dapper, the way you did for 'dapper-backports'
[06:05] <abattoir> else do the above ^^^^ :)
[06:05] <soulrider> i dont seem to have multiverse for dapper, only dapper-backthingy
[06:05] <cpk2> use the link!
[06:06] <Perseid0> OK. Last call for help. I have sound in Amarok and Kaffeine, but no system sounds and no MIDI anywhere.
[06:07] <cpk2> Perseid0: you check alsamixer settings/play with alsa?
[06:07] <Perseid0> alsamixer says: "No mixer elems found"
[06:08] <soulrider> tot ell you the truth, i dont know what i gotta do with that link :P
[06:08] <cpk2> are you using alsa?
[06:08] <Perseid0> This is going to sound noobish, but I'm not sure.
[06:08] <Cornellius> There's a beginning for everything
[06:09] <Perseid0> How do I check which sound system I;m using?
[06:09] <crimsun> Perseid0: if a*mixer given
[06:09] <crimsun> arg
[06:09] <McScruff> i look in amarok - settings - engine :P
[06:09] <crimsun> Perseid0: if a*mixer gives you errors, then you're not likely using alsa natively.
[06:09] <McScruff> i do it the long way
[06:09] <digitalslacker> Anybody have ideas as to why mythtv won't install? It comes up with an error saying "Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"
[06:10] <cpk2> soulrider: you using dapper?
[06:10] <crimsun> digitalslacker: do you have both universe and multiverse enabled?
[06:10] <soulrider> yes
[06:10] <Em4n> i have an interesting problem... when i login via kdm, it appears to login, then kicks me back to the login screen... where should i begin to look to fix this?
[06:10] <digitalslacker> crimsun: yes
[06:10] <crimsun> Perseid0: what's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''?
[06:10] <crimsun> digitalslacker: pastebin the errors from ``apt-get install mythtv''
[06:11] <Perseid0> 0 [Namtai         ] : USB-Audio - EyeToy USB camera Namtai
[06:11] <Perseid0>                      Sony corporation EyeToy USB camera Namtai at usb-0000:00:02.0-6, full speed
[06:11] <Perseid0> 1 [Audigy         ] : Audigy - Audigy 1 [SB0090] 
[06:11] <Perseid0>                      Audigy 1 [SB0090]  (rev.3, serial:0x511102) at 0xa000, irq 233
[06:11] <_normal1> hey how do you install rpm ??
[06:11] <Perseid0> It's pretty neat that it thinks my eyetoy is a sound card.
[06:11] <_normal1> what command
[06:11] <cpk2> soulrider: if so select dapper from the pulldown,put in the 2 letter country code (US for united states), then check the first 6 boxes i suppose
[06:11] <cpk2> then get your list
[06:11] <soulrider> oh, ok, thanks
[06:11] <soulrider> i guess i gotta type UY :P
[06:12] <crimsun> Perseid0: that's because it is. Are you planning to use the Audigy as the default sound card?
[06:12] <cpk2> _normal1: ubuntu doesnt use rpms
[06:12] <Perseid0> Yes.
[06:12] <_normal1> hmm
[06:12] <_normal1> okay thanks
[06:12] <crimsun> Perseid0: then in a Konsole, type this command: ``asoundconf set-default-card Audigy''
[06:12] <crimsun> Perseid0: then log out of KDE and back in.
[06:12] <cpk2> _normal1: .deb i suppose is the closest thing to rpm
[06:13] <cpk2> _normal1: have you tried using apt-get?
[06:13] <Perseid0> Ok. I may or may not be back. :) Thanks.
[06:15] <digitalslacker> crimsun: would love to pastebin if it was working. It just sets there doing absolutely nothing after clicking "send"
[06:15] <robotgeek> digitalslacker: use another one?
[06:15] <crimsun> digitalslacker: use another (any of the hundreds of them)
[06:16] <soulrider> cpk2: i added the list tot he repositores
[06:16] <soulrider> and it still wont find it
[06:16] <cpk2> did you update?
[06:16] <soulrider> oh no
[06:17] <soulrider> k, thanks
[06:17] <soulrider> as you can see, i just installed linux :P
[06:17] <digitalslacker> crimsun: http://www.copypot.com/327
[06:17] <cpk2> soulrider: no problem, remember you always have to update if you want to get new things
[06:17] <soulrider> i didnt know that
[06:17] <cpk2> that includes upgrades you will have to update and then do upgrade
[06:18] <soulrider> afetr im done with thsi im gonna downlaod JDK 5, flash and Opera
[06:18] <soulrider> and hope evrything works :P
[06:18] <crimsun> digitalslacker: you have to configure root's account for mysql first.
[06:18] <cpk2> java?
[06:18] <crimsun> digitalslacker: there's documentation in /usr/share/doc/mysql-admin/  if you have that package installed.
[06:18] <digitalslacker> crimsun: didn't know to do that
[06:18] <cpk2> are you using 64bit soulrider?
[06:19] <cpk2> digitalslacker: look on the wiki under lamp
[06:19] <soulrider> nope
[06:19] <soulrider> yes, i need java
[06:19] <cpk2> it will tell you the basic of setting up a lamp if thats what you are after
[06:19] <soulrider> ima ctually studying compuetr engineering
[06:19] <soulrider> and in programming we use java :P
[06:19] <soulrider> ill be satrting semester #2 soon :P
[06:20] <kana> soulrider: then you might consider eclipse or netbeans too
[06:20] <cpk2> ok, well if you want the java plugin to work on the web and stuff you need sun-java5-bin
[06:20] <soulrider> yes, i use eclipse
[06:20] <kana> soulrider: yah i prefer eclipse too
[06:21] <soulrider> im gonna love next semester
[06:21] <soulrider> were gonna add GUIs to our programs :P
[06:21] <cpk2> i've never bothered taking comp sci classes because they always have ridiculous math requirements
[06:21] <soulrider> i guess i will be able to make a GUI for my lanme minesweeper :P
[06:21] <robotgeek> computer science != programming!
[06:22] <kana> :)
[06:22] <soulrider> if anyone want my minesweeper source ill send it :P
[06:22] <confused> does anyone know how I can emulate the mouse wheel with the thumb button on the side of the mouse?
[06:22] <lnxkde> someone using  quinn kxdocker?
[06:22] <soulrider> i wrote it in spanish though ^
[06:22] <soulrider> ^^
[06:23] <kana> robotgeek: depend on where you study. yet i agree northamerica software engineering is whay you want for prog
[06:23] <robotgeek> kana: i am a mechanical engineer :)
[06:23] <kana> robotgeek: me too //handshake
[06:23] <unix_infidel> what's the default initlevel at which apache is started.
[06:23] <soulrider> i ahd a calculus exam last thrusday
[06:24] <soulrider> i dont know if i passed :-/
[06:24] <kana> specialized in OR so lots of programming there (simulation) to be particular
[06:24] <soulrider> i believe i got like 60 or 65/100
[06:24] <soulrider> adn you need 70 to pass
[06:24] <robotgeek> kana: good going.
[06:24] <cpk2> looking at the catalog right now and it has "intro to programming" in "computer science"
[06:24] <cpk2> =P
[06:24] <cpk2> as well as software project
[06:24] <cpk2> unix system admin
[06:24] <_normal1> hey how do you save on vi ?
[06:25] <robotgeek> _normal1: :wq
[06:25] <soulrider> err, i updated and upgraded... and i stuill cant find the codecs lol
[06:25] <_normal1> thanks
[06:25] <cpk2> my university seems to think comp eng is just databases it seems
[06:26] <Em4n> anyone have any ideas about my login loop problem?
[06:26] <cpk2> soulrider: you know the name of the package?
[06:26] <soulrider> libxine-extracodecs
[06:26] <soulrider> linuxmachos? is that like tux-pr0n? :P
[06:26] <cpk2> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <cpk2> !repos libxine-extracodecs
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about repos libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <cpk2> hmm
[06:27] <kana> does the opera package in the repos work with the mplayer plugins or is it the same as the one from the opera website?
[06:27] <soulrider> thats what the help sais :-/
[06:27] <soulrider> Codecs for playing non-free formats are not included in Kubuntu by default. You can get support for the extra codecs by installing the libxine-extracodecs package from the Multiverse repository
[06:27] <digitalslacker> I still get the exact same error message when trying to install mythtv
[06:28] <soulrider> BRB
[06:32] <soulrider> im back
[06:37] <westjd> can anyone help me with formating an unrecognized hard drive?
[06:39] <Perseid0> OK. I have system sounds again. Yay! :) But I still have no MIDI.
[06:40] <kana> westjd: try man mkfs
[06:41] <westjd> kana, I am very new to some of thses complex (what I think is comples) linux commands
[06:42] <kana> westjd: i have little faith with the graphical tools so am afraid can not help you there :)
[06:42] <westjd> kana I have an NTFS formated drive, and I want linux to formate it and use it. (i dont care about data loss)
[06:44] <gekko`> westjd: search for gparted or qtparted
[06:45] <Em4n> this is confusing... kde keeps crashing when i login as a regular user, but root can get in just fine
[06:45] <gekko`> both are gui partitioning applications
[06:45] <westjd> thnks geko
[06:48] <nixbox> hi all
[06:48] <nixbox> i have a windows installation with one NTFS partition, is there any software which can help me partition that single partition futher and in-place?
[06:48] <nixbox> parted is only for FAT32?
[06:49] <westjd> nixbox I saw some wiki infor about NTFS
[06:49] <westjd> you should look there
[06:50] <gekko`> nixbox: do you want to format your hdd to ntfs?
[06:51] <westjd> hhhmmm qt parted does not see any devices
[06:52] <westjd> I better go to bed anyway and figure it out in the moring.
[06:52] <westjd> later all
[06:52] <nixbox> gekko`,  no, i want to install linux and i want to extract some space from the NTFS partition without displacing any data
[06:53] <wckdkl0wn> is there anyway to back track something i did in settings?
[06:54] <wckdkl0wn> i was messing around with system settings - display earlier to try and get my output to clone onto my tv through svid and now i get an error when opening it and i dont have video playback on my monitor
[06:55] <wckdkl0wn> even in administrator mode
[06:55] <apeman2020> hello all
[06:56] <soulrider> uhm, im insatlling the flash plugin
[06:56] <soulrider> but hte instalation is kinda stuck in 90%
[06:56] <soulrider> its been there for minutes now
[06:56] <soulrider> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ...
[06:56] <apeman2020> i am looking to use apt-get to install x on my server build of ubuntu... i need some HELP!
[06:56] <wckdkl0wn> it says an error occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphan module...... and you have old third party modules lying around
[06:57] <wckdkl0wn> the module display could not be loaded
[06:59] <soulrider> !ntfs
[06:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:01] <alexicon> heyas, whats that important xine package to get??? and the repository it needs?
[07:01] <alexicon> !xine
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <alexicon> !libxine
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <alexicon> hm
[07:06] <apeman2020> need help installing xwindows on my ubuntu server install~
[07:07] <jk-> apt-get install xserver-xorg ?
[07:07] <apeman2020> nope..
[07:07] <apeman2020> doesnt work
[07:07] <jk-> why's that ?
[07:07] <apeman2020> package xserver-xorg has no installation candidate
[07:08] <apeman2020> any ideas?
[07:08] <jk-> what do you have in your sources.list ?
[07:08] <jk-> pm me instead of flooding channel :)
[07:10] <apeman2020> i have uncommented all of the repositories (default)
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> !info libxine
[07:15] <ubotu> Package libxine does not exist in dapper
[07:16] <jk-> libxine1-main
[07:18] <jk-> sorry, libxine-main1
[07:23] <alexicon> hi, whats the name of the repository that contains xine-extracodecs?
[07:23] <alexicon> is that the right package name?
[07:23] <wckdkl0wn> i was messing around with system settings - display earlier to try and get my output to clone onto my tv through svid and now i get an error when opening it and i dont have video playback on my monitor
[07:23] <wckdkl0wn> it says an error occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphan module...... and you have old third party modules lying around
[07:23] <wckdkl0wn> the module display could not be loaded
[07:23] <wckdkl0wn> any ideas on a fix for this?
[07:23] <Hawkwind> !info xine-extracodecs
[07:23] <ubotu> Package xine-extracodecs does not exist in dapper
[07:24] <alexicon> hm
[07:24] <Hawkwind> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:24] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:24] <alexicon> ah cheers!
[07:25] <alexicon> !amarok > alexicon
[07:26] <tulga> where locate KDE's menu file?
[07:29] <Ignite_> tulga, its built out of .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[07:30] <Ignite_> you can edit the menu if you right click it then choose "Menu Editor"
[07:30] <jesspher> does anybody know any program in ubuntu that can open pdf files
[07:30] <jk-> kpdf
[07:31] <noiesmo> !pdf
[07:31] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/KPDF/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[07:32] <jesspher> can i run this programs usiing the terminal? xpdf/KPDF/gpdf
[07:32] <jk-> yes
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Yes, of course
[07:32] <jesspher> what do i type
[07:33] <jk-> kpdf
[07:33] <Hawkwind> kpdf, xpdf, gpdf
[07:33] <jk-> or
[07:33] <jk-> kpdf filename.pdf
[07:33] <jesspher> when i type xpdf it will say command not found
[07:33] <jk-> then xpdf isn't installed
[07:34] <jk-> sudo apt-get install xpdf
[07:34] <Ignite_> although, kpdf is much more integrated with KDE
[07:34] <kana> and you cn install acroread too
[07:34] <Ignite_> yes but its slow as hell and proprietary :P
[07:35] <jk-> yeah, if you're using kubuntu, try kpdf instead
[07:35] <kana> Ignite_: agree but is the best i used so far
[07:35] <jk-> Ignite_: you forgot ugly :)
[07:35] <jesspher> i want the fasted pdf file reader in ubuntu
[07:35] <Ignite_> jk-, hehe
[07:35] <jesspher> which one is the fastest
[07:35] <kana> jesspher: xpdf is quite light
[07:35] <jesspher> is it the best one?
[07:35] <kana> define best
[07:35] <Ignite_> and with kpdf you can view the documents in konqueror whilst browsing the web so.. :P
[07:36] <jesspher> the fastest one that can read pdf files
[07:36] <jk-> jesspher: try them all and then decide which one is the best for you
[07:36] <Ignite_> or
[07:36] <Ignite_> look at screenshots etc..
[07:37] <jesspher> thanks for your answers
[07:37] <kana> jesspher: i do lots of pdf presentations for me acroread was the best in terms of resources and speed
[07:37] <Ignite_> jesspher, http://kpdf.kde.org/screenshots.php
[07:39] <jesspher> can i install KPDF by using the terminal?
[07:39] <Ignite_> yes
[07:39] <Ignite_> sudo apt-get install kpdf
[07:39] <Ignite_> or, K Menu -> Add/Remove
[07:39] <Ignite_> and you can install it with the GUI :)
[07:40] <nixbox> how to search the apt repository?
[07:40] <jesspher> thanks ignite
[07:40] <jk-> nixbox:  apt-cache search
[07:41] <Ignite_> nixbox, or use the GUI, K Menu -> Add/Remove
[07:41] <nixbox> Ignite_,  that doesn't list all the packages for some weird reason
[07:42] <nixbox> whats the package for mplayer firefox plugin?
[07:42] <Ignite_> nixbox, tick the box "Show unsupported software"
[07:42] <nixbox> Ignite_,  i have done that
[07:42] <Ignite_> and changed the category to "All"?
[07:42] <nixbox> Ignite_,  even selected "Any suite" as well
[07:42] <Ignite_> mozilla-mplayer is the package IIRC
[07:42] <Ignite_> weird
[07:43] <apeman2020> hello all!~
[07:43] <Ignite_> hello
[07:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Is setting up an Intel 2200 WLAN card "painless" in Kubuntu?
[07:44] <MilhousePunkRock> hello apeman2020
[07:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey Ignite_!
[07:44] <nixbox> Ignite_,  ok its working, installed thanks.
[07:44] <Ignite_> hey MilhousePunkRock :D
[07:44] <Ignite_> nixbox, anytime
[07:44] <apeman2020> does anyone use enhanced builder?
[07:45] <kana> MilhousePunkRock: no works out of the box on ubuntu. i even set it as my main network connection during installation
[07:46] <Healot> !wifi
[07:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:46] <MilhousePunkRock> kana: I am currently using a PC-Card with the Atheros chipset, and I am looking to replace it with a Mini-PCI card... So that's a piece of cake with the right chipset on the new card?
[07:46] <Healot> for status of most wifi cards
[07:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx Healot
[07:47] <Healot> rt2xxx
[07:47] <kana> MilhousePunkRock: mine is built in
[07:47] <Healot> fsf recommended - rt 2xxx
[07:47] <MilhousePunkRock> kana: Mine will be too, I hope, in a few weeks...
[07:47] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:48] <kana> MilhousePunkRock: i had not any troubles with it here. it is supported by the kernel and the firmware come with ubuntu
[07:48] <kana> MilhousePunkRock: did not need to make anyconfiguration
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> kana: That tempts me to push the "Buy now"-button... :-D
[07:49] <kana> MilhousePunkRock: look at this link http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[07:50] <jesspher> for me acroread is the best for pdf files
[07:50] <kana> jesspher: same here :)
[07:50] <Ignite_> :(
[07:50] <j_luges> umm, could anybody help mej
[07:50] <j_luges> mE*
[07:50] <j_luges> me*
[07:50] <Ignite_> hehe
[07:51] <j_luges> how can i unblock a site
[07:51] <j_luges> which is blocked through /etc/hosts
[07:51] <j_luges> my brother did it
[07:51] <j_luges> and i don't have root privilages
[07:51] <Ignite_> then maybe its blocked for a reason?
[07:51] <kana> kpdf seem to have some problems do not know why? evince is resource hog and xpdf is too primative
[07:51] <j_luges> no
[07:51] <j_luges> he puts it there because he hates me
[07:51] <Ignite_> oh
[07:52] <Ignite_> you could use a proxy
[07:52] <Ignite_> possibly
[07:52] <j_luges> how
[07:52] <MilhousePunkRock> kana: Nice, seems to be a pretty active project. The 2200 is a popular chipset, isnt it?
[07:52] <apeman2020> anyone using   AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor
[07:53] <Ignite_> j_luges, its not a straight forward thing really, your best off searching google
[07:53] <j_luges> hmm?
[07:54] <Ignite_> basically you need to find a public proxy server, then set your browser to tunnel traffic through it
[07:54] <Ignite_> so then your connecting to the proxy and its sending you the pages, you never actually connect to the blocked website
[07:54] <j_luges> ok cool
[07:54] <j_luges> where could i find a public one
[07:54] <Ignite_> google :P
[07:57] <Healot> #tor
[07:57] <Ignite_> he doesn't have root
[07:59] <draik> j_luges
[07:59] <draik> diversion
[07:59] <draik> I have a site for you
[07:59] <diversion> wait
[07:59] <draik> http://www.vtunnel.com
[08:00] <draik> j_luges or diversion, go to that link. It will allow you to web surf with the vtunnel.com name
[08:03] <soulrider> hi
[08:03] <soulrider> uhm, whast the command in the konsole to go back one directory, kind of like CD.. in DOS
[08:03] <unix_infidel> cd ..
[08:03] <j_luges> lol
[08:03] <soulrider> witha  space ?
[08:03] <unix_infidel> try it out and see.
[08:03] <Flosoft> hey
[08:03] <soulrider> lol
[08:04] <soulrider> i feel so retarded....
[08:04] <soulrider> i didnt know about the space
[08:04] <Flosoft> I have no sound, although both cards are discovered :S
[08:04] <unix_infidel> !gooogle
[08:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about gooogle - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:04] <unix_infidel> !google
[08:04] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[08:04] <j_luges> !pie
[08:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about pie - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:04] <unix_infidel> soulrider: ^^^^^^ for next time :)
[08:04] <unix_infidel> lol.
[08:04] <unix_infidel> yes, that's right, you owe me some pie next time.
[08:04] <unix_infidel> i dont work for free!
[08:05] <soulrider> lol
[08:05] <soulrider> crap... java didnt insatll well
[08:05] <soulrider> install
[08:06] <soulrider> !java
[08:06] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:06] <soulrider> ! jdk
[08:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about jdk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:06] <kana> soulrider:
[08:06] <soulrider> yes
[08:06] <unix_infidel> soulrider: why do you need the jdk
[08:06] <kana> did you sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:06] <soulrider> to program :P
[08:06] <unix_infidel> the jre should be enough for whatever desktop stuff you need.
[08:06] <kana> to select your java
[08:07] <soulrider> kana: i didnt, thanks
[08:07] <kana> :)
[08:07] <soulrider> god, i feel like sucha  moron
[08:07] <soulrider> i seriously cant do shit with linux
[08:07] <supernix>   /uptime
[08:07] <soulrider> can you guys recommend a good book? :P
[08:07] <supernix> Uptime: 4 days, 3 hours and 48 minutes
[08:08] <Flosoft> I have no sound, although both cards are discovered :S
[08:08] <soulrider> i think im gonna need linux for ultra dummies
[08:08] <j_luges> harry potter and the philosiphers stone lol
[08:08] <Flosoft> can someone help me with that?
[08:08] <j_luges> actually it's a boring book
[08:08] <apeman2020> soulrider_ you are in good company, if it wasnt for this community i would be lost~
[08:08] <kana> soulrider: help.ubuntu.com and debian.org are good starters
[08:08] <supernix> Soulrider to my knowledge there are no Kubuntu books but you can get several Ubuntu books now
[08:08] <soulrider> yes, i read half of it
[08:08] <soulrider> and it was crap :-/
[08:09] <boogy> hello
[08:09] <supernix> One is called Beginning Ubuntu if memory serves me correctly
[08:09] <soulrider> ill try and look for them
[08:09] <apeman2020> Hi boogy
[08:09] <supernix> The other is Ubuntu Hacks
[08:09] <supernix> both very good
[08:09] <soulrider> i mean, i dont really know anything about any linux
[08:09] <soulrider> this is all new for me
[08:09] <supernix> and there are a butt load of books on Ubuntu comming out soon
[08:09] <soulrider> completely new
[08:09] <kana> soulrider: they are pretty the same with minor differences
[08:09] <supernix> Other than the books you can check out the linux docs sites
[08:09] <soulrider> :)
[08:10] <soulrider> is there any way i can do a file to run a command
[08:10] <soulrider> kind of like .bat
[08:10] <kana> !cli > soulrider
[08:10] <soulrider> that way i can run my jars more easily
[08:10] <supernix> ah yeah
[08:10] <supernix> I dont know much about shell scripting but that is what your talking about
[08:10] <Ignite_> soulrider, look up shell scripting
[08:10] <soulrider> ok
[08:10] <Ignite_> heh
[08:11] <supernix> You just setup a script and call it as you wish
[08:11] <Ignite_> :)
[08:11] <jk-> echo -e '#!/bin/bash\n\njava -jar file.jar' > run-jar; chmod 755 run-jar
[08:11] <jk-> :D
[08:11] <Ignite_> lol
[08:11] <soulrider> yay! it works
[08:11] <Ignite_> :D
[08:11] <supernix> You can even write some commands in a text file and then chmod x the file and then just type it is when you like like ./thefile and it will run whatever you wish
[08:11] <soulrider> my minesweeper looks cool ont he linux console :P
[08:12] <supernix> Unix Power Tools is a good book on shell scripting
[08:12] <soulrider> i think im gonna go for the starter ones first
[08:12] <soulrider> for basic linux
[08:12] <soulrider> adnt hen move on
[08:13] <soulrider> like i gotta figure out how to make opera launch when i clcika  link instead of konqueror :P
[08:13] <kana> soulrider: default web browser check it under kcontrol if i remember properly
[08:14] <kana> been a while since i last used kde :)
[08:14] <Ignite_> soulrider, k menu -> system settings -> KDE components -> Default applications -> web browser
[08:14] <soulrider> yay, woprks!
[08:14] <soulrider> im loving this :P
[08:14] <Ignite_> :D
[08:14] <Ignite_> <3
[08:14] <soulrider> little by ittle things satrt to work as i want them to
[08:15] <Ignite_> :)
[08:15] <boogy> plise give me repozitory (sources.list) for kubuntu
[08:15] <soulrider> !easysource
[08:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:15] <soulrider> there ay go =D
[08:15] <Ignite_> :D
[08:15] <jk-> heh. neat
[08:15] <soulrider> im learning ;)
[08:16] <Ignite_> i will remember that one, i was halfway through typing the url :P
[08:16] <soulrider> what i need to do now, is to eb able to launch opera through katapult, i got it on my k menu abnd everything, but katapult ignores it
[08:16] <boogy> senks
[08:16] <Ignite_> strange
[08:16] <Ignite_> tried restarting katapult?
[08:16] <soulrider> err, how do i dot hat :P
[08:16] <Ignite_> alt+space; alt+c to get the menu
[08:17] <soulrider> just open it again
[08:17] <Ignite_> alt+space; alt+c to get the menu then you can choose "quit"
[08:17] <soulrider> ooooo
[08:17] <soulrider> nice
[08:17] <Ignite_> :D
[08:17] <soulrider> katapult is wonderful
[08:17] <soulrider> oh yay, works!
[08:17] <Ignite_> :)
[08:19] <soulrider> lets see if i installed flash correctly
[08:19] <soulrider> oh yes! i did!
[08:19] <Ignite_> :)
[08:19] <soulrider> !eclipse
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about eclipse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:19] <Ignite_> :O
[08:20] <soulrider> in widnwos you gotta use your mouse, here you gotta use your keyboard a lot more
[08:20] <soulrider> and its so mcuh faster too
[08:20] <Ignite_> !eclipseide
[08:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about eclipseide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:20] <Ignite_> ugh
[08:20] <jk-> well, you don't *have* to
[08:20] <Ignite_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE <-= soulrider
[08:21] <soulrider> thanks
[08:21] <Ignite_> np
[08:21] <soulrider> uhm, question
[08:21] <soulrider> if i click on a link
[08:21] <Ignite_> ?
[08:21] <soulrider> wait
[08:21] <soulrider> i think ic an fix it myself
[08:21] <soulrider> hang on
[08:21] <Ignite_> :D
[08:22] <soulrider> ok, no, couldnt
[08:22] <soulrider> if i click ona  link
[08:22] <soulrider> opera will open the page on the same tab ig to open
[08:22] <soulrider> so if im browsing a site, it will be kind of overwritten with what i click
[08:22] <Ignite_> hrm, i don't use opera, is there a setting in the opera preferences?
[08:22] <jk-> soulrider: middle click?
[08:22] <nautilusit> question how do you use an usb mouse mine will no work.
[08:23] <nautilusit> logitech
[08:23] <soulrider> nope, middle click doesnt work
[08:23] <Ignite_> nautilusit, they usually work fine, is it exotic?
[08:23] <soulrider> i mean, it works inside opera, but not if i clcik somethign here
[08:23] <nautilusit> medialife
[08:23] <nautilusit> mediaplay sorry
[08:24] <Ignite_> soulrider, i have no clue on your link problem sorry
[08:24] <nautilusit> I am new to this
[08:24] <soulrider> ok
[08:24] <nautilusit> windows no more
[08:24] <Ignite_> :D
[08:24] <obf213> hey i modded my keyboard by added keys using the command xmodmap -e
[08:24] <Ignite_> haha cool, got pictures?
[08:24] <obf213> but i have to have to enter the keys in every time i restart, anyone know how i can save this setting
[08:25] <kana> nautilusit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is your best bet
[08:25] <Ignite_> nautilusit, http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9340 <-= is that it?
[08:25] <Ignite_> obf213, you could write a simple script to do it for you
[08:25] <obf213> alright how would i do that
[08:26] <obf213> i have all the info that i want to assign the keys ive done this a few times now. im guessing a script would enter the command a log in no?
[08:27] <obf213> Ignite_: how i write a script? kate?
[08:27] <Ignite_> basically, create a new file and add "#!/bin/sh" as the first line, then after that all the commands you run to get your keys working, save it somewhere safe, then add "exec /path/to/script &" to your ~/.bash_profile file
[08:27] <obf213> ok
[08:27] <Ignite_> you should also run "chmod +x <file>" on the cript
[08:27] <Ignite_> script*
[08:28] <Ignite_> that way when you login it will all setup automatically for you :)
[08:28] <soulrider> nice, i can use opera to browse the directories
[08:28] <Ignite_> :)
[08:28] <obf213> i dont know what that means Ignite_ do i type that chmod in the first line in kate or something
[08:28] <jk-> don't use exec
[08:29] <jk-> it'll stop the execution of the current script
[08:29] <Ignite_> obf213, after you have saved the file run that command on it, replace <file> with the scripts filename though
[08:29] <jk-> obf213: type it on the console
[08:29] <Ignite_> heh, i'm not big on shell scripts :P
[08:30] <obf213> jk- if i do what you say then ido i include #!/bin/sh as the first line in the kate file
[08:30] <jk-> yep
[08:31] <obf213> ok
[08:31] <jk-> probably just easier to add your xmodmap commands directly to .bashrc
[08:31] <soulrider> does anyone know why my contacts in MSN see me offline all the time? im using Kopete
[08:31] <obf213> i wish i knew how to do that
[08:32] <Ignite_> i was thinking that if he made a script he could remove it at will
[08:32] <jk-> open it in an editor? :)
[08:32] <obf213> would it just be called .bashrc
[08:32] <draik> soulrider, quite a few people I know using MSN have that same issue
[08:32] <obf213> so sudo kate .bashrc
[08:32] <draik> same for AIM
[08:32] <soulrider> maybe ebcause its not the latest Kopete?
[08:32] <soulrider> i think that might eb the problem
[08:32] <jk-> obf213: you should already have a .bashrc file in your home directory
[08:32] <Ignite_> is your setting set to offline? i find that it doesn't always set you to online, but you see your contacts anyway
[08:32] <jk-> obf213: you don't need the
[08:33] <draik> they are using windoze, that eliminates kopete
[08:33] <jk-> obf213: you don't need the 'sudo'
[08:33] <soulrider> i had that problem in windoze to
[08:33] <soulrider> too*
[08:33] <obf213> arlight it opened
[08:33] <soulrider> but it was if i used an old evrsion of msn
[08:33] <jk-> soulrider: or are you marked as 'invisible' ?
[08:33] <obf213> so do ijsut add my commands then jk-
[08:33] <jk-> yep, at the end of the file
[08:33] <soulrider> i believe that probably kopete has an old protocol or something
[08:33] <soulrider> no, im marked as online
[08:34] <Ignite_> !opera > me
[08:34] <obf213> jk- can it go anywhere in my bashrc
[08:34] <Ignite_> !info opera > me
[08:34] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in dapper
[08:34] <Ignite_> ugh
[08:35] <soulrider> opera pwnz all :P
[08:35] <soulrider> seriously, soemtimes i think im the only one that liekd it
[08:35] <soulrider> its kidna frustrating
[08:35] <Ignite_> i prefer to keep away from proprietary software as much as possible, but thought i would give it a go
[08:35] <obf213> hey Ignite, i was told to jsut add the info to .bashrc so i opened it in kate. can the command lines go anywhere?
[08:35] <soulrider> believe me, youll love it
[08:36] <Ignite_> obf213, yeah
[08:36] <soulrider> nintendo has it in its DS console, and it will be on Wii, the new console
[08:36] <soulrider> and if nintendo is using ti, it has to be good
[08:36] <Ignite_> yeah, i heard about that
[08:36] <Ignite_> does opera support extentions?
[08:36] <soulrider> yes
[08:36] <soulrider> i believe it has plugins
[08:36] <soulrider> and it supports widgets too
[08:37] <Ignite_> sounds cool
[08:37] <soulrider> but i never really needed to even look for a plugin
[08:37] <soulrider> its very complete
[08:37] <soulrider> has built in IRC, Mail client
[08:37] <Ignite_> in firefox i would usually just install adblock and unplug, thats about it
[08:37] <soulrider> and  other useful things like notes
[08:37] <soulrider> with opera you can block ads
[08:37] <Ignite_> i prefer kmail for my emails and xchat for IRC
[08:37] <soulrider> just select thema dn poof, gone
[08:37] <Ignite_> :D
[08:37] <soulrider> i was kinda skeptical about it
[08:37] <soulrider> im a bitch lol
[08:38] <Ignite_> lol
[08:38] <soulrider> and ive been using it sicne version 6
[08:38] <jk-> skeptopotamus
[08:38] <soulrider> lol
[08:38] <soulrider> lol, batman is on TV, cant believe the movie is so lame
[08:38] <Ignite_> i get a horrible feeling of guilt when i use/install propriatery programs
[08:38] <soulrider> its ht eone with governator
[08:38] <soulrider> lol
[08:38] <soulrider> i dont :P
[08:39] <soulrider> i never even payed for anythign in my life :P
[08:39] <soulrider> except a few games
[08:39] <kana> Ignite_: guilt are you in a cult or something ;
[08:39] <kana> )
[08:39] <Ignite_> i've read a lot on GNU and the FSF, read about all the things and free software (as in freedom) has become my life
[08:39] <soulrider> well, i allways used windwos
[08:40] <os2mac> aloha everyone.
[08:40] <soulrider> so im not too into free software and stuff
[08:40] <soulrider> hi!
[08:40] <Ignite_> i used to use windows
[08:40] <Ignite_> a long time ago
[08:40] <soulrider> besides, ig to my internet connection less than 4 years ago
[08:41] <obf213> hey jk- i added them logged of and i didnt work
[08:41] <obf213> do i need to have the # sign before each line?
[08:41] <jk-> nope
[08:41] <soulrider> oh crap, almost 4 AM
[08:41] <Ignite_> a nice feature i can't do without in firefox, is its ability to automatically do a google search for whatever you type into the address bar that isn't a URL and show the most relevant result, does opera support this? @ soulrider
[08:41] <Ignite_> lol, its 7:42am here
[08:41] <soulrider> uhm yes
[08:41] <Ignite_> ah good :)
[08:42] <soulrider> i never use it though
[08:42] <soulrider> i just type g and whatever
[08:42] <soulrider> so it googles it
[08:42] <soulrider> but i know there is a way to just show the ebst result
[08:42] <obf213> hey jk- nvm it works thanks a ton
[08:42] <soulrider> it is possible
[08:42] <kana> Ignite_: i used both opera is much superior :)
[08:42] <Ignite_> :)
[08:42] <jk-> obf213: no problem
[08:42] <soulrider> im gonna miss photoshop... there isnt a linux verson is there ?
[08:43] <jk-> soulrider: gimp
[08:43] <soulrider> is ti as good ?
[08:43] <kana> soulrider: does the media player plugin work in opera?
[08:43] <jk-> err, that wasn't an insult. it's the name of a photoshop-like program
[08:43] <jk-> soulrider: better in some areas, worse in others.
[08:43] <soulrider> media player plugin ? like stream stuff in web sites?
[08:43] <kana> yap
[08:43] <jk-> i think there's a plugin to make it look & feel like photoshop
[08:43] <soulrider> lol jk, i ahd heard of it before, no worries about the insults :P
[08:44] <jk-> :)
[08:44] <soulrider> yea, opera is just like any other browser
[08:44] <soulrider> just better! :P
[08:44] <vigilante_> Anyone usin compiz with kde?
[08:44] <kana> soulrider: the media player plugin does not work here
[08:44] <soulrider> i neve rhad a problem streaming anything
[08:44] <kana> soulrider: only the realplayer plugin work
[08:44] <soulrider> i could allways watch videos
[08:44] <soulrider> even if they were WMV, RM or QT
[08:45] <kana> did you try apple movies let me get the site
[08:45] <kosh> try to watch one of those 1080i quicktime movies
[08:45] <soulrider> apple.com/trailers ?
[08:45] <kosh> they are done with some new encoding that is different
[08:45] <kana> yap
[08:45] <soulrider> my connection would die :P
[08:45] <kosh> some of the apple trailers I can watch just not the hd ones
[08:45] <soulrider> yea, i never had a problem streaming anything with opera
[08:46] <kana> soulrider: i went to opera website they say the problem that the media player plugin had to be compiled without the gtk ext
[08:46] <kana> soulrider: which plugin you use
[08:46] <soulrider> well, i just insatlled it in linux :P
[08:46] <soulrider> sicne i insatlled linux like 10 hours ago lol
[08:47] <soulrider> but in win i never ahd a problem
[08:47] <kana> soulrider: i know under window there are no probs :)
[08:48] <soulrider> ah
[08:48] <soulrider> well, i dont really kwo under linux
[08:48] <soulrider> but i doubt there are any problems
[08:49] <kosh> actually for a long time it was easier for me to watch quicktime videos under linux then under windows
[08:49] <kosh> I have a 7.1 audio setup and earlier quicktime players would screw with mixer settings
[08:49] <kosh> and it would keep resetting the mixer levels would screwed things up
[08:50] <kosh> creative actually added a setting to their sound card just to cover that problem which was to make it so that only their control applets could change the sound card settings
[08:52] <soulrider> how do i know where the files go when i insatlled a package?
[08:52] <soulrider> like, i insatlled oepra, how do i know where it went ?
[08:53] <bimberi> soulrider: dpkg -L opera
[08:54] <soulrider> thanks
[08:54] <Ignite_> soulrider, which repo did you add to install opera?
[08:54] <soulrider> i rightcliked the file adn then hit add package
[08:55] <soulrider> or install, or something
[08:55] <Ignite_> ah, from the opera website?
[08:55] <acojlo> can someone send me /etc/default/acpi-support file?
[08:55] <soulrider> yea
[08:55] <Ignite_> ah, there is an official repo with it now
[08:55] <soulrider> what if i wanted to uninstall opera, how can i do that ?
[08:55] <soulrider> :O
[08:55] <Ignite_> so you can keep it upto date with everything else :P
[08:55] <Ignite_> k menu -> add/remove
[08:55] <Ignite_> or, sudo apt-get remove opera
[08:55] <soulrider> :O that easy ?
[08:56] <Ignite_> yeah :)
[08:56] <soulrider> its almost as easy as win!
[08:56] <Ignite_> :D
[08:56] <soulrider> oh my, linux is fabulous!
[08:56] <Ignite_> easier imho
[08:56] <Ignite_> :P
[08:56] <Ignite_> <3
[08:56] <soulrider> <3 indeed
 they work now
[08:56] <soulrider> they didnt work before, dunno why
[08:56] <soulrider> maybe because of keyboard language
[08:57] <Ignite_> :)
[08:58] <soulrider> uhm, can i get gimp from adept ?
[08:58] <Ignite_> should be able too
[08:58] <soulrider> great
[09:00] <soulrider> i love this repository thing
[09:00] <soulrider> in a way, everythign in linux is made for lazy people!
[09:00] <kosh> what is better is later when you find out what it takes to keep it updated
[09:01] <kosh> think of what it takes to update all your software on windows vs clickong on the adept updater when it says there are updates
[09:01] <kosh> and it can update ALL the software, not just a few things like windows can
[09:01] <soulrider> awesome!
[09:02] <soulrider> btw, i gotta update the list f the repositories right ?
[09:02] <soulrider> like, what they contain
[09:02] <Ignite_> soulrider, i finally found it, if you want to install opera from the repos add the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" (without the quotes) to your /etc/apt/sources.list file then run "apt-get update" (without quotes)
[09:03] <kana> soulrider: you do not need to reboot either after an update unless you wana run new kernel
[09:03] <soulrider> youre gonna kill me fro asking this but, what exactly is the kernell
[09:03] <kosh> soulrider: adept updater checks every so often on its own and also when you log in
[09:03] <kana> soulrider: so no more reboots and update and reboot and hell it took so long
[09:03] <kosh> soulrider: so it will keep itself up to date
[09:03] <soulrider> cool
[09:03] <Ignite_> soulrider, linux is ther kernel, the entire os is actually called "GNU/Linux" or "GNU+Linux", linux is just a kernel, one part of the operating system, not the whole thing
[09:04] <kosh> soulrider: it tells you what software it updates, if it says kernel then you should reboot :)
[09:04] <kosh> the kernel is the base part of the os that talks to the hardware
[09:04] <Ignite_> the*
[09:04] <kana> soulrider: is the base on which the sys work (the interface between progs and the hardware
[09:05] <kana> kosh: lol you are always the faster typer
[09:05] <soulrider> ohhh
[09:05] <soulrider> Ignite_: i can add that line from within adept right ?
[09:05] <soulrider> and instead if typing apt get... i cna hit the update button ?
[09:05] <kosh> kana: that is what happens when you write software for a living
[09:05] <Ignite_> i don't think so, i presonally find adept "skimpy" compared to synaptic which you get in ubuntu, so i usually use apt from the CLI
[09:06] <Ignite_> yeah you can hit the update button
[09:06] <Ignite_> i think
[09:06] <Ignite_> :P
[09:06] <kana> kosh: or when you are lazy sleeping watching a movie and chatting like me ;)
[09:06] <kosh> you can add new repositories in adept, you can update them and also do a full upgrade
[09:06] <kosh> I usually use the cli though and not any gui apps
[09:07] <soulrider> crap, i dont know what is up with my college's website, i cant access it unless i use a proxy
[09:07] <soulrider> dont hate the gui :P
[09:07] <kosh> I can use the cli faster then any gui
[09:08] <kosh> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    will update the package list and then upgrade all installed software
[09:08] <kosh> and I can run that faster then a gui can start
[09:08] <soulrider> probably
[09:08] <kana> kosh: dist-upgrade only for upgrading the disto
[09:08] <Ignite_> i like the GUI, its more fun, but the CLI is a lot faster/efficient in some areas imho
[09:08] <soulrider> im still slow witht eh GUI, i  dont know what mess i can do witht he cli
[09:08] <kana> apt-get upgrade is the command or you loose your config files
[09:09] <soulrider> first ill learn the basics, thent he CLI :P
[09:09] <Ignite_> :)
[09:09] <kosh> kana: I have used dist-upgrade for about 6 years now I know what it does :)
[09:09] <Ignite_> and.. opera installed... *guilt kicks in* :P
[09:09] <soulrider> apparently gims is already insatlled, but i cant find a shortcut :(
[09:09] <gnomefreak> kana: dist-upgrade does _not_ upgrade your version of ubuntu
[09:09] <soulrider> lol
[09:10] <kosh> dist-upgrade will update to the newest versions and it is capable of removing software
[09:10] <kosh> upgrade won't ever remove any software
[09:10] <kana> gnomefreak: it is much more severe and i said it should be used for dist-upgrade only as it might overwrite custom config files
[09:10] <kosh> dist-upgrade should never overwrite custom config files
[09:10] <gnomefreak> kana: you cant get kernel upgrades with upgrade you need to use dist-upgrade
[09:10] <kosh> since how config files are handled is dpkg's job, dist-upgrade just decides which packages shoudl be updated
[09:10] <kana> kosh: it does here
[09:11] <kosh> if you customize a config file the system should not touch it after that
[09:11] <Ignite_> heh, why don't we all end this problem and read the man pages :)
[09:11] <jk-> it'll ask you if you want the new or the old version
[09:11] <kosh> Ignite_: I did read the man page
[09:11] <Ignite_> :)
[09:11] <kana> Ignite_: cool will do that again :)
[09:12] <soulrider> err, can i add a shortcut to gimp automatically or do i have to make it manually ?
[09:12] <soulrider> opera rocks! :P
[09:12] <Ignite_> soulrider, sometimes the K menu is a pain and doesn't update, there is a way to refresh it that i'm not sure of, you can log out and in again and it will refresh but its not all that practical
[09:13] <kosh> you would have to add the gimp shortcut yourself, however the system does add its own gimp shortcut in the menu
[09:13] <kosh> it just won't add one to the desktop
[09:13] <soulrider> i had a small idea
[09:13] <soulrider> and it worked
[09:13] <kosh> I don't like opera very much
[09:13] <soulrider> i opened hte config
[09:13] <soulrider> and hit save
[09:13] <kosh> getElementById is still screwed up in opera 9
[09:13] <soulrider> that way it will update without relogging
[09:13] <kosh> it confuses the name and id namespace
[09:14] <soulrider> nooooo, opera rulllleeeessss **speaks in a hypnotic way**
[09:14] <soulrider> there are new kubuntu upgrades every like 1 hour :-/
[09:14] <kosh> that is why our web based management system only support khtml and gecko based renderers, you can use any browser on the front end though
[09:14] <Ignite_> soulrider, thats only because you have only just installed it :P
[09:15] <Ignite_> well
[09:15] <kosh> opera does a fairly good job on most things but gecko and khtml do have better css and js support
[09:15] <Ignite_> i don't know
[09:15] <Ignite_> i assume
[09:15] <Ignite_> ^_^
[09:15] <soulrider> Ignite_: the bar by default sucks
[09:15] <soulrider> go to options and make it appear as a popup in the bottom
[09:15] <Ignite_> i agree, this layout is making me ill
[09:15] <soulrider> that will amke it looks nice
[09:16] <kosh> opera is nice as another renderer to test against but I do wish they would fix some of their js problems
[09:16] <soulrider> options > appearance and int he drop down menu click on pop-up
[09:16] <Ignite_> yeah, i don't see an option to make it permanent though
[09:17] <kosh> it has been reported many times but I guess they don't care
[09:17] <soulrider> whatd oy ou mean
[09:17] <Ignite_> soulrider, i would like the status bar to stay there
[09:17] <Ignite_> it distracts me when it flashes about like that
[09:17] <soulrider> it will stay there
[09:17] <soulrider> it satys there for me :-/
[09:17] <Ignite_> only whilst the page is loading
[09:17] <soulrider> ahh
[09:18] <soulrider> why do you want it when its not loading :P
[09:18] <Ignite_> because it flashes around and distracts me
[09:18] <Ignite_> <_<
[09:18] <soulrider> lol
[09:18] <soulrider> popper is better than static .P
[09:18] <soulrider> fuck, i gotta stop using ":P"
[09:19] <Ignite_> lol
[09:19] <jk-> :P rocks
[09:19] <Ignite_> when something flashes like that it gives me the impression its requesting some information
[09:20] <jk-> second only to :
[09:20] <SpAwN> crap....i just reallized that my ipod isnt mounting right....b4 i would plug it in...it would say what do u want to do...id say open in a new window....it would...now it says there was a error...any ideas?
[09:20] <Ignite_> worst thing is its propriatery so i can't add that ability :'(
[09:21] <kana> kosh: according to this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html you should use dist-upgrade when upgrading from one release to the other. for upgradng in same release apt-get upgrade is recommended. yet the manual just state that upgrade will not remove any installed packages while dist-upgrade might
[09:24] <SpAwN> all it says is a unknow error has occured
[09:24] <Ignite_> soulrider, what was it you did to refresh the menu?
[09:24] <kosh> kana: I ran sid for a long time and still run it on many systems, dist-upgrade is right for sid
[09:24] <kosh> kana: the explanation there is a pretty simple one and not quite correct
[09:24] <soulrider> o went to options
[09:24] <soulrider> like if i were toa dd a new items
[09:25] <soulrider> and just hit save
[09:25] <soulrider> so it automatically updates
[09:25] <soulrider> even if you dont make any changes
[09:25] <Ignite_> righto
[09:25] <Ignite_> thanks
[09:25] <soulrider> ;)
[09:25] <Ignite_> :D
[09:25] <kana> kosh: i think i understand it know. I can now see there is no harm with dis-upgrade in same release though i still think upgrade is safer :)
[09:26] <jesspher> does adding a sound card to my pc boost my pc performance?
[09:26] <Ignite_> i wonder if its possible to write a plugin for opera to add a static status bar
[09:26] <kosh> upgrade won't always work
[09:26] <kosh> jesspher: for playing games if the sound card can do the game effects in hardware it would boost performance
[09:26] <soulrider> Ignite_: no idea, my programming skills are still reduced to whiles, fors, ifs, arrays and lists :P
[09:26] <kosh> jesspher: for playing regular audio it would boost performance if it can do multiple audio streams at a time in hardware compared to do it in hardware
[09:26] <jk-> wow, one of my pages in a quit message. :D
[09:27] <Ignite_> soulrider, hehe
[09:27] <jesspher>  like how much mhz would it take away from the cpu
[09:27] <kosh> jesspher: for both of those the solution is a creative labs sound card since they are supported in games and support multi open in hardware, you can get a pci audigy2 for about $40
[09:27] <soulrider> OR
[09:27] <jk-> almost none
[09:28] <soulrider> youc an use an on board sound card
[09:28] <kosh> jesspher: on any modern machine it would make almost no difference
[09:28] <soulrider> like me :P
[09:28] <kosh> however the dedicated sound cards mostly sound better and work a lot better at games
[09:28] <MilhousePunkRock> After some research on Mini-PCI WiFi cards... Will a card with a prism-chipset work fine as well?
[09:28] <jesspher>  but would i cause better sound clarity?
[09:29] <Ademan> how do you create a *.ttf font from a *.spec font?
[09:29] <kosh> I don't know of any built in sound chip that sounds as good as even something like an audigy2
[09:29] <kosh> however if you don't have fairly good speakers you won't ever notice
[09:29] <jk-> MilhousePunkRock: as long as you don't need to use WPA
[09:29] <kosh> if what you have now sound good enough to do you and you are not playing windows games it probably does not matter
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> jk-: No WPA at all or just a lot of work to do to get it working?
[09:30] <jk-> MilhousePunkRock: none at all (with the prism54 driver) i believe
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> jk-: That sucks... I just changed my encryption to WPA last week... :-/
[09:30] <jesspher>  what are the major companies that makes soundcards
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> jesspher: The major company is Creative
[09:31] <Healot> Creative?
[09:31] <kosh> creative is the major player left
[09:31] <kosh> they crushed everyone else pretty much
[09:31] <kosh> however they have also tended to support about every os out there for their sound cards which is one reason they did well
[09:32] <Healot> most of the soundcards today use chipsets made by via, realtek, etc...
[09:32] <SpAwN> crap my ipod still wont mount...can anyone help?
[09:32] <kosh> back when os/2, linux, bsd, sco unix, beos etc it was pretty much the only card you could get which would work under all of them
[09:32] <SpAwN> dmesg says it connects fine...but kde isnt auto mounting it...and i dont know how to mount it otherwise
[09:33] <Ignite_> SpAwN, try amarok
[09:33] <jk-> amarok's not going to help if the ipod can't mount :(
[09:33] <SpAwN> Ignite_, what u mean....i just want to mount the ipod so a: it charges b:so i can use gtkpod to put music on it
[09:34] <jk-> SpAwN: what does it tell you when you try to mount it ?
[09:34] <jk-> SpAwN: it doens't need to be mounted to charge :)
[09:34] <SpAwN> b4 i pluged it in...it asked what i wanted to do...and auto mounted
[09:34] <SpAwN> a uknown error has occured
[09:34] <jk-> ah
[09:34] <Ignite_> amarok is like the no 1 media player out there, it supports ipods, if you run that then connect your ipod it will take care of it all for you
[09:34] <soulrider> ok guysm im gonna got o ebd before my mom wakes up, finds me here and goes berserk
[09:34] <SpAwN> i just upgraded kde
[09:34] <soulrider> ill see you tomorrow!!
[09:34] <Ignite_> bye soulrider
[09:34] <soulrider> see ya!
[09:35] <SpAwN> Ignite_, i prefer xmms.....but if i wanted to play off my ipod i would defianlty use amarok
[09:35] <Ignite_> <3 amarok
[09:35] <Ignite_> i haven't used xmms in years, its not being developed anymore afaik, not since 2003
[09:35] <SpAwN> http://pastebin.ca/108047
[09:36] <SpAwN> Ignite_, its not but i still prefer it over any other music player
[09:36] <vigilante_> anyone tried xgl+compiz on kubuntu?
[09:36] <kosh> xmms is a pain in the neck, even at the double size it is tiny since it is all pixel based interface
[09:36] <kosh> amarok will scale on a higher rez interface
[09:36] <SpAwN> i like the fact that xmms i small and fast
[09:36] <jk-> SpAwN: are you using kubuntu ? or ubuntu ?
[09:37] <SpAwN> now does that mean that the ipod is /dev/sdb?
[09:37] <SpAwN> kubuntu
[09:37] <SpAwN> dapper
[09:37] <jk-> SpAwN: yep, sdb
[09:37] <kosh> the different between amarok and xmms for playing audio is < 1% cpu usage
[09:37] <Ignite_> yes
[09:37] <jk-> sdb2
[09:37] <kosh> at least on my systems
[09:37] <SpAwN> jk-, i could mount /dev/sdb /mount/place?
[09:37] <jk-> you could
[09:37] <jk-> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mount/place
[09:37] <SpAwN> jk k i am gonna try it
[09:38] <Ignite_> sdb1 probably, since USB devices are usually partitioned like harddisks
[09:38] <jk-> Ignite_: sdb1 is the boot partition on an ipod
[09:38] <Ignite_> ah
[09:38] <jk-> .. i think. anyway, the music and stuff is on 2 :)
[09:39] <kana> kosh: just curious what made you swith to ubuntu from debian for right now i am just facinated with debian that i am dual booting it with ubuntu
[09:39] <jk-> SpAwN: try this:
[09:39] <SpAwN> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[09:39] <SpAwN>        missing codepage or other error
[09:39] <SpAwN> :/
[09:40] <jk-> eep
[09:40] <jk-> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[09:40] <jk-> to list the partition table
[09:40] <kosh> kana: I just switched my desktop because at the time ubuntu had a newer version of kde then debian sid did
[09:40] <SpAwN> /dev/sdb1               1          10       80293+   0  Empty
[09:40] <SpAwN> /dev/sdb2              11        3648    29222235    b  W95 FAT32
[09:40] <kosh> when I build my new box it will probably go back to a pure debian sid box
[09:40] <jk-> oh, sorry:
[09:40] <jk-> ount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /mount/place
[09:41] <jk-> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /mount/place
[09:41] <kana> kosh: ok cool man
[09:41] <jk-> (missed the '2')
[09:41] <SpAwN> jk i think that worked
[09:41] <jk-> cool
[09:41] <jk-> ok, i'm off. time to head home :)
[09:48] <grothesk> vigilante_: I'm running XGL on kubuntu.
[09:49] <apeman2020> what package do i need to install to use the MAKE command?
[09:49] <vigilante_> Does it run well? (any faster, better), I found this guide - http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=1067
[09:49] <grothesk> apeman2020: build-essential
[09:49] <apeman2020> thanks !
[09:52] <grothesk> vigilante_: faster than? better than?
[09:54] <vigilante_> grothesk: I mean, faster/better(feature wise) than what we currently have in kde without compiz/xgl
[09:55] <grothesk> That ist an odd comparison.
[09:56] <grothesk> What do you compare XGL/Compiz with plain kde? There is nothing to compare.
[09:57] <Healot> xgl/compiz on kde vs. xgl/compiz on gnome?
[09:57] <vigilante_> grothesk: what I mean, why add xgl/compiz, what is the benefit? (if any)
[09:58] <grothesk> No real benefit.
[09:58] <grothesk> It just looks nice.
[09:58] <grothesk> Und annoys me within half an hour so I have to turn it off.
[09:59] <kosh> the benefit is a long term one
[09:59] <kosh> if you run more then one monitor you would find that the gui actually has a pretty high cpu cost
[09:59] <grothesk> At the moment it is a techdemo.
[09:59] <vigilante_> I hear kde4 will have similar hardware acceleration features built in
[09:59] <kosh> the point of stuff like xgl/aiglx is to offload work from the cpu to the video cards
[09:59] <kosh> so if you run a quad head setup and have video cards with opengl support across all 4 heads you can get a substation speed up by offloading work to the video cards
[10:00] <vigilante_> ic
[10:00] <vigilante_> I will wait for kde4
[10:01] <grothesk> So at the moment it is no 'must have'.
[10:01] <vigilante_> I am frustrated now because SMARTpm is not downloading packages, even though it finds them in the list
[10:05] <vigilante_> Anyone else using SMARTpm here?
[10:06] <Healot> !find smartpm
[10:06] <ubotu> Found: smartpm
[10:07] <Healot> !info smartpm
[10:07] <ubotu> smartpm: An alternative package manager that works with dpkg/rpm. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.41-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 397 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[10:12] <Healot> universe >> enable this section for dapper repos yet?
[10:12] <kraut> moin
[10:13] <fatih> testing ... testing ...
[10:19] <kana> cya all
[10:19] <kana> kosh: take care my friend
[10:25] <vigilante_> Cany someone direct me to help with setting up auto-identify in Konversation for freenode?
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> vigilante_: Are you registered already?
[10:29] <vigilante_> yes, as vigilante, but got disconnected, and reconnected as vigilante_
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, hit F8
[10:29] <vigilante_> ok, then what
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Enter "NickServ" into the "Service" field
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> And your PW for Password
[10:30] <vigilante_> ok, then disconnect and try reconnecting?
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !ghost
[10:30] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> With that command, you can "kill the ghost", vigilante_
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> After that, you can reconnect without the _
[10:31] <vigilante_> MilhousePunkRock: it tells me password incorrect, even though that same password got me on earlier in the evening
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> vigilante_: Caps lock on, maybe?
[10:32] <vigilante_> nope :(
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> vigilante_: Right, you do see the PW as plain text... Maybe vigilante without the _ ist not there anymore as a ghost...
[10:33] <vigilante_> ok
[10:34] <vigilante_> MilhousePunkRock: thats lame, should tell me that instead of wrong password... lol
[10:34] <vigilante_> I will log off and back on
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> WB vigilante_ with _ :-/
[10:37] <vigilante_> MilhousePunkRock: thx, yeah, didn't work :(
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Did it tell you "nick already in use, trying vigilante_"?
[10:38] <vigilante_> yes
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Then I don't know more... :-/
[10:42] <Hawkwind> vigilante_: What's the issue you're having ?
[10:45] <vigilante_> Hawkwind: I logged on a few hours ago as vigilante with recognized indent/pass, then lost connection, tried logging back on and get incorrect pass message, and cant kill ghost
[10:51] <Hawkwind> vigilante_: Do you not have the nicks linked to each other ?
[10:52] <vigilante_> Hawkwind: nope... I am talking to a freenode admin now, hope will fix :)
[10:52] <Hawkwind> You should have the nicks linked, it would make life a lot easier
[10:53] <vigilante_> I will try to do that next time I get on with it, and also register an email on it
[10:54] <intelikey> what kind of stupid error message is this ?     # mkinitrd
[10:54] <intelikey> Reading package lists... Done
[10:54] <intelikey> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:54] <intelikey> E: Couldn't find package
[10:55] <Kabal> q'] 
[10:55] <intelikey> like what is looking for what there   ?
[10:58] <intelikey> i used to think linux error messages were pretty useful   looks like i was mistaken
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: FLOOD ALERT!
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> ;-)
[10:59] <Kabal> Can somebody identify this problem?
[10:59] <Kabal> Kubuntu 6.06 LiveCD booted & installed a couple of times.. fine np..
[10:59] <Kabal> Now my desktop is next.. booted the cd and it hangs by: "mounting root file system".. nothing happens.?
[10:59] <Kabal> Now what?
[10:59] <Kabal> I've got latest bios (Asus P4 P800 E Deluxe) and only one PATA 80GB drive and CD-ROM drive connected.
[10:59] <intelikey> three lines in a non-active channel does not a flood make.
[11:00] <Kabal> as it won't boot.. I can not install kubuntu :(
[11:06] <Hawkwind> I have the same ASUS mobo and it works perfectly fine on my system
[11:07] <Azzco> I need to ask one thing about command lines...
[11:07] <AegeanLinux> gi ahead Azzco ...
[11:07] <AegeanLinux> lens: are you around?
[11:08] <AegeanLinux> *go ahead
[11:08] <Azzco> would tar -xvsf  filename1 filename2 location exctract the two files to the location directory?
[11:08] <AegeanLinux> lens: How did compiling with gcc-2.95 / gcc-3.3 go ?
[11:09] <AegeanLinux> Azzco: I don't know, but I would think not.
[11:09] <Azzco> I've got a couple of tar files that I want to extract to a specific directory
[11:09] <AegeanLinux> Azzco: It might, try it ;)
[11:09] <Azzco> yeah the best way to learn is from experience :)
[11:10] <AegeanLinux> :D, so please tell me how it goes ;)
[11:12] <Healot> tar -xvf -C <dir to extract>
[11:12] <Healot> filename :0
[11:20] <AegeanLinux> Azzco: Any luck?
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey AegeanLinux!
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Healot: What was that page with the WLAN listing again?
[11:23] <Azzco> AegeanLinux: no it didn't work out to well...so I looked up a command guide insted and since I've allready extracted the files (wrong place though) I'll just move thme to the right place insted :)
[11:23] <AegeanLinux> KK.
[11:23] <AegeanLinux> Hi MilhousePunkRock. How
[11:23] <AegeanLinux> 's you?
[11:24] <Healot> !wifi
[11:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I'm fine, thanks
[11:25] <AegeanLinux> coolies
[11:25] <AegeanLinux> How did recording you g/f go ;) ?
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> AegeanLinux: You're working under high pressure the meet the release date?
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> AegeanLinux: I didn't ask her yet...
[11:25] <AegeanLinux> extremely :D
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> That sound thingy is pretty low on the priority list
[11:26] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: So you recorded her when :P
[11:26] <AegeanLinux> Sorry, MilhousePunkRock, put that last line a few lines above and it sounds right ;)
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[11:30] <Azzco> does anyone happen to know where login manager files are located?
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Azzco: Installing a new kdm theme?
[11:38] <Healot> ... locate kdmrc
[11:40] <Flosoft> hey everyone
[11:40] <Flosoft> I have got a problem ... I have no sound
[11:40] <Flosoft> but the system recognised my 2 soundcards :S
[11:43] <JohnFlux> Flosoft: run kmix
[11:43] <JohnFlux> Flosoft: does it see the two soundcards
[11:43] <Flosoft> yes
[11:43] <JohnFlux> Flosoft: is the volume up ? :-)
[11:43] <Flosoft> yes ;)
[11:43] <JohnFlux> check neither are on mute
[11:43] <Flosoft> nope
[11:43] <JohnFlux> it sounds stupid, but for alsa by default mutes them :( :(
[11:43] <Flosoft> hmm
[11:43] <Flosoft> well they aren't
[11:46] <Flosoft> maybe some soundserver issues?
[11:47] <Healot> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[11:47] <Healot> reocnfigure the cards, choose auto for sound output, done :-
[11:48] <Flosoft> there was no auto
[11:48] <Flosoft> only OSS and ALSA
[11:49] <Healot> alsa, or salsa then :)
[11:50] <Flosoft> that is what I selected
[11:50] <Flosoft> still no sound
[11:50] <JohnFlux> Flosoft: turn the speakers on :P
[11:51] <Flosoft> JohnFlux: Done
[11:52] <bbw> Hi there
[11:52] <Flosoft> But they were on before ;)
[11:52] <bbw> I have a problem with uploading my webpage and there must be a firewall in kbuntu can't find it (linuxNebwie)
[11:52] <Flosoft> so still no go ;)
[11:53] <Flosoft> bbw: normally there is no firewall in kubuntu
[11:54] <Healot> Flosoft: there is always a firewall in all GNU/Linux distro, just turned-off by default :-
[11:55] <Flosoft> Healot: yeah ... ipsec right?
[11:55] <Flosoft> Healot: but same thing ... if it is turned off .... :p
[11:56] <Healot> not ipsec, iptable, welcome to Linux world :)
[11:56] <bbw> ooh did now that
[11:56] <bbw> is there a ftp upload program for linux
[11:56] <bbw> maby with program that it will work
[11:56] <Flosoft> konqueror
[11:56] <Healot> well, it is turned on, but there is no filtering rule by default, hoho
[11:56] <JohnFlux> Healot: "turned on" doesn't mean anything
[11:56] <bbw> how do i shut it down
[11:57] <JohnFlux> you don't
[11:57] <JohnFlux> there's nothing to shut down
[11:57] <JohnFlux> i really hate the word "firewall" :(
[11:57] <Healot> it is always there...
[11:57] <JohnFlux> people get the wrong idea about it
[11:57] <bbw> why can i not upload
[11:57] <Healot> just no filtering rules...
[11:57] <JohnFlux> bbw: do:   iptables -L
[11:57] <Healot> meaning, all traffic in-out will not be filtered
[11:58] <JohnFlux> bbw: that will show any filtering
[11:58] <Healot> the filter tables are there, but no filter rule...
[11:58] <bbw> iptables -l do i do that in terminal
[11:58] <JohnFlux> -L
[11:58] <JohnFlux> yes in a terminal do:  iptables -L
[11:59] <anne_> hi. Can anyone look my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/9951 . I need vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-26 but "sudo apt-get update"  won't find it. thx !
[11:59] <Healot> -L << exactly
[11:59] <JohnFlux> !vmware
[11:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:59] <JohnFlux> anne_: ^^
[11:59] <Healot> JohnFlux shall be spelled as "JohnFlux"
[11:59] <bbw> johnFlux i get permision deniet
[12:00] <JohnFlux> bbw: sudo iptables -L
[12:00] <Healot> sudo, prepend sudo
[12:00] <bbw> FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:00] <bbw> iptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
[12:00] <bbw> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[12:00] <bbw> bbw@bbw-desktop:~$ iptables -L
[12:00] <bbw> FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:00] <bbw> iptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
[12:00] <bbw> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[12:00] <Healot> sudo!
[12:00] <Healot> !sudo
[12:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:00] <anne_> yes i know but can anyone check my sources.list please ? i use kubuntu and can't enable repos like in ubuntu...
[12:00] <JohnFlux> bbw: run:   sudo iptables -L
[12:01] <bbw> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[12:01] <bbw> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:01] <bbw> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[12:01] <bbw> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:01] <bbw> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[12:01] <bbw> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:01] <JohnFlux> okay good
[12:01] <JohnFlux> bbw: you see how they all say ACCEPT
[12:01] <Flosoft> anne_: just use vi and edit: /etc/apt/sources.list as root
[12:01] <JohnFlux> bbw: and there's no rules there
[12:01] <bbw> ok
[12:01] <bbw> Johnflux i will try again to upload
[12:01] <anne_> Flosoft: where can i find the lines to add ?
[12:02] <Flosoft> well ... just enable repos
[12:02] <Flosoft> there are already some additionall lines in there ... just not active
[12:02] <JohnFlux> Flosoft: which ones?
[12:02] <Flosoft> simply remove the # infront of them
[12:02] <JohnFlux> she's already enabled them all
[12:03] <Flosoft> ow
[12:03] <JohnFlux> anne_: you did do:  apt-get update   right?
[12:03] <anne_> JohnFlux: yes. Btw sorry to disappoint you all i'm a guy configuring his sister's pc :)
[12:03] <JohnFlux> anne_: stupid irc ;-)
[12:04] <anne_> :/
[12:05] <JohnFlux> anne_:  did you follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:06] <anne_> JohnFlux: nope vmware is in the repos
[12:07] <anne_> i just need to make sure all the right repos are enabled...i have the feeling some are missing...
[12:14] <eamon> !resolution
[12:14] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:28] <ricardo> hi...i have question here....
[12:30] <ricardo> i have a vista partition and a kubutnu partition....dual boot using grub....is there any way to resize partitions without affecting integrity? also what happens if I reinstall xp over vista, which bootloader will take control?
[12:30] <AegeanLinux> ricardo: it would be niced to ask it ;)
[12:30] <AegeanLinux> ricardo: not that I know of, GRUB will stiull be the main man ;)
[12:33] <ricardo> AegeanLinux: thanks..i've heard stories of win taking control (the empire counter attacks ;oP)
[12:33] <acojlo_> how to change lost password here on irc?
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> ricardo: AFAIK Windows overwrites the MBR during the installation
[12:33] <AegeanLinux> ricardo: No, Microsoft changed that in XP
[12:34] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: Oh, OK then. It's possible - I have never needed to do it myself ;)
[12:34] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: But I heard on Technet That XP stopped doing it.
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Could be, I have never been in that situation...
[12:35] <ricardo> lucky you...
[12:35] <ricardo> MilhousePunkRock:
[12:41] <Martijn81> AegeanLinux: no xp does it too
[12:41] <AegeanLinux> Martijn81: Dang.
[12:42] <AegeanLinux> Martijn81: Bloody MS. Why can't they be like everyone else and have "that" option to not write to MBR.
[12:43] <Ace2005> Hi AegeanLinux
[12:43] <AegeanLinux> Hey Ace2007!
[12:44] <Martijn81> AegeanLinux: "divide and dominate"
[12:44] <eamon> I'm trying to install amarok 1.4.1  from these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php , no errors are given but my amarok version is still 1.3.9, any ideas guys?
[12:44] <Ace2007> Can't you somehow protect the MBR?
[12:44] <AegeanLinux> Martijn81: "I don't get it"
[12:44] <ricardo> Martijn81: what do you mena by "xp does it too"?
[12:45] <AegeanLinux> Ace2007: You can back it up, yes
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Ace2007: AFAIK you can... Damn, AegeanLinux was faster
[12:45] <grothesk_> eamon: What does 'apt-cache policy amarok' tell you?
[12:45] <Martijn81> ricardo: overwriting the MBR on installation
[12:45] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: Sorry man. I hate when other people are faster then me :D
[12:46] <eamon> grothesk_: Installed: 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 Candidate: 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4
[12:46] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: YAY! I was fater than someone else ;)
[12:46] <eamon> lol @ typo
[12:46] <grothesk_> eamon: Than you did NOT change your sources.list.
[12:46] <grothesk_> Or you did no 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:46] <Ace2007> AegeanLinux: Thanks, but what software could i use?
[12:47] <AegeanLinux> Ace2007: Google is your friend.
[12:47] <Ace2007> AegeanLinux: Oh yea sometimes you tend to forget
[12:47] <eamon> grothesk_: I put this line into my sources.list "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main"
[12:47] <AegeanLinux> Ace2007: Sorry to be a smart arse, how ever, experience = knowledge, and I don't realy know, so once you get the knowledge, share it with me :P
[12:47] <ricardo> Martijn81: so it is not safe to reinstall xp?
[12:47] <AegeanLinux> *really
[12:48] <Martijn81> Ace2007: you can backup your MBR with dd, but you have to be absolutely sure that you don't mess with the partition table (last 66 bytes in mbr)
[12:48] <AegeanLinux> Thanks Martijn81
[12:48] <ricardo> Martijn81: what should i do if i needed a clean reinstall of xp (dont wanna touch kubuntu though)
[12:48] <Ace2007> Martijn81: So i guess it'd be better to get a grub install disk instead
[12:49] <Ace2007> eamon: I installed it fine from the instructions but amarok-arts seems to be old so it can't be installed
[12:49] <eamon> I got it working (",)
[12:49] <grothesk_> Sure it can be installed. I did so.
[12:49] <Ace2007> eamon: So what did you do?
[12:50] <eamon> apt-get update
[12:50] <eamon> :)
[12:50] <Ace2007> :)
[12:50] <grothesk_> -_-
[12:50] <eamon> lol
[12:50] <anne_> hi. i've installed vmware-player and got my "My_Virtual_Machine.vmx" file and then i'm told to double-click it to launch the install but it opens Kate instead ! any idea ?
[12:51] <grothesk_> eamon: I knew it: [12:48]  <grothesk_> Or you did no 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:51] <Ace2007> so run vmplayer
[12:51] <anne_> and do i need to restart my comp ? i've installed from the binaries ?
[12:51] <anne_> Ace2007: ok
[12:52] <Godrin_> Anybody knows of an ftp-client, that's able to continue uploads?
[12:52] <Flosoft> what do I need for MP3support in AMAROK?
[12:52] <Flosoft> kget?
[12:52] <Ace2007> anne_: or in konqueror go to Settings > Konfigure Konqueror > File Associations and then look for vmx and if its not there create a new entry to vmx
[12:52] <txus> look at faqs in kubuntu home page
[12:52] <anne_> Ace2007: yes it works thx !
[12:54] <Godrin_> Flosoft: kget is for download only.
[12:55] <Flosoft> ow
[12:55] <AegeanLinux> Flosoft: xine-extracodecs or something like that
[12:55] <AegeanLinux> Flosoft: just search in adept for xine
[12:55] <Martijn81> ricardo: it's hard to explain in irc, because if you dont get it right you will break the partition table (i can make a small paste-bin explanation if you want though)
[12:55] <AegeanLinux> and make sure you have all the xine- packages. :D
[12:57] <Flosoft> AegeanLinux: can't find them :S
[12:57] <Ace2007> Does compiz work with kde's multiple desktops yet?
[12:57] <AegeanLinux> it might be called xinelib
[12:57] <Godrin_> Flosoft:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:57] <ricardo> Martijn81: THANKS!! that would be great!
[12:58] <Ace2007> OR can it switch to the next desktop when you get to the left or right edge of the current desktop? I just love this feature of KDE
[12:59] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[12:59] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:59] <dee> hi.. i m newbie on ubuntu.. i have an existing ubuntu server installation 6.06 ... & now i have kubuntu iso downloaded... what all i have to do to upgrade to KDE ?
[01:00] <Ace2007> Godrin: If you're still after an ftp client go to linucsoft.cz/en and find and ftp client, and try searching synaptic/adept for it and install it
[01:00] <root__> Hi all
[01:00] <AegeanLinux> G'day root__
[01:00] <dee> wud an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. work.. ? & what entry do i add in the repo list ?
[01:01] <Ace2007> dee:  apt-get insatll kubuntu-desktop you need an internet connection and it might take a while
[01:01] <hussam> Riddell: hi, edgy will have oxygen icon theme?
[01:01] <Ace2007> dee:  WOOPS! apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:01] <Flosoft> AegeanLinux: In what repository are they? I can't find them?
[01:01] <AegeanLinux> in multiverse I think its called
[01:02] <dee> but.. i have its ISO... so i can add something in the repository list .. to do it locally..
[01:02] <Godrin> Ace2007: thanks, but I've already tried a whole bunch of them. but non of them seem to support continuation of broken uploads, when I have only anonymous access (ftp.berlios.de)
[01:02] <intelikey> Q.  what is the mouse protocol in xorg.conf  for regular ps2 ?
[01:02] <Healot> "apt-cdrom add", insert CD, then scan
[01:04] <intelikey> godrin  wput ?
[01:04] <acojlo> people, how to speed up boot time?
[01:05] <intelikey> nobody ?
[01:05] <Ace2007> acojlo: safe way would be to stop services you don't need and the slightly dangerous way would INITNG, you can find info on both ways in the ubuntu forums
[01:05] <intelikey> acojlo stop loading the unused crap and scanning the static things...
[01:07] <intelikey> also speeds boot time considerable to roll your own kernel so you dont need an initramfs.
[01:07] <acojlo> how to stop scaning for static things?
[01:08] <intelikey> or at least make an initramfs that only does the needed things...
[01:08] <acojlo> acctualy I think my initramfs only needs DSDT.aml
[01:08] <Flosoft> AegeanLinux: here is my sources.list: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yzRqKI30.html
[01:09] <intelikey> acojlo nope.  it need disk drivers and fs drivers   neither are in the defult kernels
[01:09] <gatekeeper> acojlo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=faster+bootup
[01:09] <Emess> how well does kubuntu run gnome apps?
[01:10] <Tm_T> Emess: well
[01:10] <acojlo> ok, I understand - I was compiling for myself but it was with built in drivers
[01:10] <intelikey> as well as ubuntu does  :)
[01:10] <Emess> so i can run something liek gnome dock in kde? sweet
[01:10] <Tm_T> Emess: can or can't some things are more special than others
[01:11] <Emess> mmm se i tried KXdocker but it wouldnt do what i wanted, and superkaramba just crashes
[01:11] <AegeanLinux> Flosoft: you have the right repo's
[01:11] <Emess> im just looking for a simple dock that shows me some programs i want and which oens are open by a little arrow like in osx, like the RKLauncher for windows, know any?
[01:12] <intelikey> so can anyone at least point me at a doc  where the mouse protocol syntax is listed  for xorg.conf ???
[01:12] <Flosoft> AegeanLinux: but I can't find w32 codecs and the other one?
[01:12] <intelikey> "ps2"  doesn't seem to be a recognized protocol in xorg.
[01:13] <AegeanLinux> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[01:13] <AegeanLinux> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[01:14] <intelikey> -c is continue   only useful on resuming a failed/interupted dl.
[01:14] <Riddell> hussam: no
[01:18] <ricardo> I have a problem when tryon to get to "Disk 'Filesystems"
[01:18] <ricardo> i get: "Disk & Filesystem could not be loaded"
[01:18] <acojlo> what would happend if I move "kdm" from level 2 to "S" level ?
[01:19] <ricardo> it says it is problably due to orphaned control modules during last kde upgrade or old third party modules lying around....
[01:19] <ricardo> what should i do?
[01:19] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what file should I edit to change command for extra keys???
[01:20] <anne_> hello again. do you know where vmware will install the os ? (on linux that is)
[01:21] <dee> if i unzip the ISO of kubuntu in a DIR... then which tool to use.. to see what all packages are ther and install the desired ones ?
[01:22] <Flosoft> AegeanLinux: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iGL9k26.html ... if I try to install mp3 support
[01:23] <AegeanLinux> soz Flosoft, you have to ask someone else.
[01:23] <AegeanLinux> I am not the apt kin
[01:23] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, what is the problem?
[01:23] <Flosoft> http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iGL9k26.html
[01:23] <_rince_> re
[01:23] <tidiman07> Hello
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello tidiman07
[01:24] <tidiman07> I have a problem, anybody has time to help me?
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> tidiman07: Go ahead!
[01:24] <ricardo> anybody?
[01:25] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, you don't have the correct repos enabled: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:25] <gatekeeper> !repos > Flosoft
[01:25] <tidiman07> I have kubuntu installed, and wanted to get ubuntu-desktop off the cd, but it wont install
[01:25] <Flosoft> gatekeeper: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yzRqKI30.html
[01:26] <Flosoft> that is my repo list
[01:26] <eamon> Where can I get a precompiled deb of  xine-lib 1.1.2?
[01:27] <Healot> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[01:27] <Healot> add multiverse next to it
[01:27] <eamon> right. And you're sure it has that *specific* version?
[01:27] <Healot> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[01:27] <Healot> and there tooo...
[01:28] <Martijn81> ricardo: give me ten minutes ok? I need to put good ground information in ti
[01:28] <Martijn81> it
[01:28] <tidiman07> Is it possible to install ubuntu-desktop to kde from cd?
[01:28] <Flosoft> th :D
[01:29] <Flosoft> *thx :D
[01:29] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, not all have multiverse enabled, I would replace it with the url I gave you, add your extra amarok at the bottom, and comment out non-free as they no longer exists, read the PM of the bot on the repos
[01:32] <eamon> Healot: "E: Couldn't find package xine-lib"
[01:32] <Healot> oh
[01:32] <Healot> dude
[01:33] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:33] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[01:33] <AegeanLinux> brb
[01:34] <eamon> "Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2" <-- that's not the version I want. It cant play FLAC files. Only 1.1.2 can play FLAC
[01:35] <eamon> That's why I need that specific version.
[01:35] <Healot> !find flac
[01:35] <ubotu> Found: flac, libflac++-dev, libflac++5c2, libflac-dev, libflac7 (and 12 others)
[01:36] <Healot> !info flac
[01:36] <ubotu> flac: Free Lossless Audio Codec - command line tools. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 122 kB, installed size 332 kB
[01:37] <acojlo> can someone send me his acpi-support file? Reinstall of this package does not create the file in /etc/default
[01:37] <eamon> "command line tools" - But I need to play it in amarok. Perhaps when the next version comes out of beta it'll have flac support
[01:38] <Flosoft> gatekeeper: I think this is the optimal config: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CXBJJS40.html
[01:38] <Flosoft> gatekeeper: or is there something else?
[01:38] <goublin> hi!
[01:39] <eamon> yo b-atch
[01:39] <goublin> there are someone who know how to install splashy at kubuntu dapper?
[01:39] <eamon> apt-get install splashy?
[01:39] <goublin> i've a dependences problem
[01:40] <goublin> kubuntu try to uninstall kubuntu-desktop when I do "apt-get install splashy"
[01:41] <goublin> because kubuntu-desktop is associated with usplash, and usplash and splashy can't live together
[01:42] <goublin> :?
[01:46] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, line 1 & 4 duplicates, comment out with # at the begining lines 46, 47
[01:49] <grothesk_> goublin: Where is the problem? kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage.
[01:49] <Flosoft> gatekeeper: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TKuuNX39.html
[01:50] <acojlo> how to reinstall a package from the terminal window?
[01:50] <Neo_> hi all
[01:51] <Neo_> i have a prob in my sound card soundMax
[01:51] <Neo_> can some one help me
[01:52] <taotao^offline> acojlo: sudo aptitude reinstall <software package>
[01:53] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, you have remove the duplicates, deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted, was commented out anyway, only one needed removing and the non-free still not commented out lines 43, and 44
[01:55] <gatekeeper> !pastebin > gatekeeper
[01:55] <Flosoft> well they aren't duplicates ... and why shouldn't I keep non-free?
[02:00] <cerden> salve
[02:00] <cerden> si parla italiano?
[02:00] <cerden> Who speak inglish?
[02:01] <bimberi> !it
[02:01] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, non-free don't exist anymore, try this for size: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19295
[02:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:01] <cerden> ok thanks
[02:04] <Flosoft> gatekeeper: what is the problem with the PLF ones?
[02:05] <gatekeeper> Flosoft, don't exist anymore, uncomment if you don't believe me
[02:05] <Healot> non-free > multiverse
[02:05] <Flosoft> ah k
[02:06] <kbrooks> gatekeeper: what url doesnt exist?
[02:07] <gatekeeper> kbrooks,  PLF REPOSITORY see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19295
[02:07] <kbrooks> gatekeeper: i asked for the specific URL
[02:08] <kbrooks> #deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[02:08] <kbrooks> WRONG
[02:08] <kbrooks> #deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[02:08] <kbrooks> RIGHT
[02:08] <kbrooks> and uncomment that
[02:09] <kbrooks> Flosoft: See above.
[02:09] <kbrooks> gatekeeper: See above as well.
[02:09] <Neo_> can some one help me to find a solution for my sound laptop
[02:09] <gatekeeper> kbrooks, cool news to me thanx kbrooks :-)
[02:10] <Neo_> i juste install kubuntu in my laptop and i dont have a sound
[02:14] <Ace2007> Hi all i'm writing a little script, how do i ask it to check if a file exsists and if it does run this command and if not exit? i just opened kwrite and i'm just tying the commands i'd type into konsole
[02:14] <gatekeeper> kbrooks, thought it was a dead duck having to get w32codecs from wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[02:15] <gatekeeper> kbrooks, thanx for the correction :-)
[02:15] <kbrooks> gatekeeper: thats a dead duck methinks and gives you a index.html
[02:15] <kbrooks> Ace2007: not hard.
[02:15] <Ace2007> kbrooks: YAY so how do i do it?
[02:15] <kbrooks> if [ -f /path/to/f ] ; then runcommand; else exit 1; fi
[02:16] <kbrooks> Ace2007: tested, works
[02:16] <Dasnipa`> indeed that does work
[02:16] <kbrooks> Dasnipa`: umm, i tested it
[02:16] <Ace2007> Thanks, i'll wait for the script to finish first, its just a script to grab firefox from CVS and compile it
[02:16] <kbrooks> no need to test it a million times
[02:21] <Ace2007> um kbrooks it closes konsole if the file is not there, how do i make the script stop but not exit konsole?
[02:22] <kbrooks> Ace2007: um, write the script in a file
[02:22] <kbrooks> Ace2007: of course it closes konsole if you type "exit".
[02:22] <kbrooks> in a konsole
[02:23] <Ace2007> Oh ok
[02:23] <Ace2007> thankyou
[02:23] <kbrooks> Ace2007: the shell exits, and konsole exits in response
[02:24] <Ace2007> Whats a shell?
[02:24] <Dasnipa`> Ace2007, you need to chmod +x the file you put the script in.
[02:24] <kbrooks> bash, csh, etc - the program that asks for input
[02:25] <kbrooks> Dasnipa`: not if he doesnt have  a #!/bin/bash
[02:25] <Dasnipa`> ahh true
[02:25] <kbrooks> Ace2007: bash stands for "bourne again shell"
[02:26] <kbrooks> Ace2007: there?
[02:27] <Ace2007> Dasnipa`: I know i already made half the file but i need to make sure that first of all that client.mk is there, if it is then the script has to do an update, then check to see if ./configure worked and if makefile isn't there it exits, if its there it compiles, if that works it runs checkinstall -D to make a deb and installs it
[02:28] <Ace2007> yea i am
[02:28] <Ace2007> can kopete use IRC?
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> how do i add items to session startup?
[02:29] <kbrooks> Ace2007: yes, but i strongly recommend you use konverstation
[02:29] <Ace2007> Hexidigital_: you can put stuff in ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> thx Ace2007
[02:30] <Dasnipa`> Ace2007, cool. pretty handy.
[02:30] <AegeanLinux> lens: you 'wake ?
[02:30] <Emess> how do i get vmware to boot my windows installation?
[02:31] <Ace2007> Dasnipa`: Yea i'll just change it for different apps so that i don't have to keep using CVS all the time
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> Ace2007::  sorry, but i want to add app "kooldock" to startup... do i have to create a file to do that?
[02:32] <Ace2007> Hexidigital_: Oh i know the best thing for you wait a sec
[02:32] <Hexidigital_> Ace2007::  :)
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> morn Hobbsee
[02:34] <Hobbsee> hi Hexidigital_
[02:34] <Ace2007> Hexidigital_: Install this and it will create a new section in kcontrol > kde components > autostart, then you can add apps, commands whatever therehttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038
[02:34] <Ace2007> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038
[02:35] <Ace2007> Oh and if you want to compile it from source: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=32517
[02:35] <Hexidigital_> thx Ace2007  much apprciated
[02:35] <Emess> is it possible to make a vmx from ym exhisting windows isntall?
[02:35] <Emess> anyone?
[02:36] <_pedro> Hello everyone
[02:37] <_pedro> I recently updated from Kubuntu breezy to dapper
[02:37] <Ace2007> Hi
[02:37] <_pedro> and some packages were installed but I don't need them
[02:37] <_pedro> when I try to uninstall them with aptitude it want to uninstall kubuntu-desktop too
[02:38] <_pedro> is that a necesary package or can I uninstall it without problems?
[02:38] <Ace2007> its fine to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <_pedro> is it? what is its finality then?
[02:39] <Martijn81> ricardo: this there?
[02:39] <Martijn81> ricardo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298
[02:39] <Martijn81> (other people please comment if something if wrong)
[02:39] <_Shade_> hi there
[02:39] <ricardo> Martijn81: thanks! i thought u wre gone!
[02:39] <grothesk_> _pedro: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage containing several kde-packages. So when uninstalling dependent packages, kubuntu-desktop will also be uninstalled
[02:39] <_pedro> ok
[02:39] <Martijn81> no, i had more stuff todo ;(
[02:40] <_pedro> ok, so I can uninstall it
[02:40] <Ace2007> yes
[02:40] <_pedro> thanks very much
[02:40] <_Shade_> how do i export java path so as to make other applications 'see' it's installation path ?
[02:42] <_pedro> when I try to do that, it says to me that it is goint to remove 90 packages!!
[02:42] <_pedro> how can I solve that?
[02:43] <grothesk_> _pedro: So what are you going to deinstall?
[02:43] <_pedro> ktorrent
[02:43] <_pedro> that depends from kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <_pedro> and the solution that aptitude offers is to uninstall 90 packages
[02:44] <grothesk_> Than do it step-by-step.
[02:44] <grothesk_> Or use dpkg...
[02:44] <_pedro> step-by-step?
[02:44] <Ace2007> _pedro: install synaptic and then use it to remove ktorrent
[02:44] <grothesk_> Just deinstall ktorrent
[02:45] <Ace2007> grothesk_: wouldn't that remove 90 packages that should stay?
[02:45] <grothesk_> No.
[02:45] <Ace2007> i thought thats what he said
[02:46] <_pedro> Between the 90 packages, most of them I need them
[02:46] <_pedro> so I would like to uninstall only the ones I say
[02:46] <_pedro> but aptitude don't let me
[02:46] <Ace2007> I use synaptic to install and remove stuff, so try it using that
[02:47] <grothesk_> I use 'dpkg -r ktorrent' to deinstall stuff.
[02:48] <Ace2007> Oh my god i just tried that and it said:  dependency problems - not removing
[02:49] <_pedro> yes, that is true
[02:49] <Ace2007> sudo dpkg -r ktorrent ----  dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of ktorrent: -----   kubuntu-desktop depends on ktorrent.  ------   dpkg: error processing ktorrent (--remove):  -----   dependency problems - not removing
[02:49] <Ace2007> Common just try synaptic :)
[02:50] <Ace2007> install synaptic and use "kdesu synaptic" to start it, use kdesu to start every graphical app, if you use sudo on something like konqueror you could mess your system up, i remember i did
[02:51] <_pedro> ok
[02:51] <_pedro> Is it good to use synaptic -package manager for Ubuntu- in Kubuntu?
[02:51] <czEKista> hi. is there any _simple_ way to import/export menu between gnome and kde?
[02:53] <apol> _pedro: it's meant to it
[02:53] <apol> why would it be bad? :S
[02:54] <_pedro> well
[02:54] <czEKista> _pedro: yes, it is good. The only disadvantage is that it doesn't it doesn't fit to look & feel of kde
[02:54] <_pedro> I have used adept
[02:54] <Ace2007> _pedro: Its fine to use synaptic, its a GTK app, just like gimp but what can you do, its fine to use it
[02:54] <_pedro> ok
[02:54] <Ace2007> _pedro:  adpet is only used in kubuntu because its Qt based,
[02:54] <_pedro> thanks very much
[03:03] <nrdb> Hi, I have just installed skype does anyone know how to find out if the calls are direct or bounced of some elses connection?
[03:06] <Emess> depends if its too a landline or anotehr skype
[03:07] <nrdb> Emess: to another skype user
[03:07] <Emess> thats direct
[03:08] <larson9999> i just read an article telling how to mod a phone so you can use skype-out/in with it and save tons on your phone bill if you use lots of minutes.
[03:08] <nrdb> Emess: it can be direct to the other skypes IP addr or bounced of another computer to get there.  I would like to know what skype is doing.
[03:09] <Emess> afaik tis direct
[03:09] <nrdb> larson9999: you could get yourself a $10 headset too.
[03:10] <grothesk>  Hi! Where may I change the language of kdm?
[03:10] <grothesk> On one computer it is in german, on the other it is in english. Both of them running kubuntu 6.06.
[03:10] <larson9999> nrdb: yeah but this sends call to your cell wherever you are.
[03:10] <hussam> how do I know what package installed /usr/lib/file.so ?
[03:11] <nrdb> larson9999: not sure what you are saying there
[03:12] <larson9999> nrdb: thought you were saying i didn't need that since i could just get a headset.  was just pointing out the headset would tie me to the relative location of the pc.
[03:13] <nrdb> grothesk: have you tried "kde menu->system settings->Regional & accesability"
[03:13] <grothesk> nrdb: Shure I did.
[03:14] <nrdb> larson9999: yes it would, I am looking at using a wireless phone connected to the computer.
[03:15] <larson9999> nrdb: yeah, the site i was referring showed how to route your calls to and from your cell phone through skype no matter where you were and use the cheaper skype minutes.
[03:17] <nrdb> larson9999: oh :) thats a different thing altogether from what I thougt you where talking about.
[03:17] <nrdb> larson9999: do you have skype on your computer?
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> why not have a mess around with asterisk (much more interesting than skype)
[03:18] <larson9999> nrdb: but you have to have internet access to the phone and i suppose you'd need to use your phone a lot for it to be worthwhile.  i spend about 5 minutes a month on the phone.
[03:18] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: also much more complicated.
[03:18] <larson9999> nrdb: we used to use skype to call my wife's family in thailand but now we just use webcam to chat
[03:19] <nrdb> larson9999: audio too I suppose
[03:19] <larson9999> nrdb: yeah
[03:20] <nrdb> larson9999: you didn't answer my question, do you have skype on your computer?
[03:20] <larson9999> nrdb: 'we used to use skype' was my way of saying, 'not any more.'
[03:22] <nrdb> larson9999: ok, I was hopping to give you a call.  If then I could see if skype was bouncing my calls, if I knew you currect IP address.  Can't do that now can I. :(
[03:23] <Lynoure> nrdb: three ifs in one sentence... confusing. What is it that you want to find out?
[03:23] <larson9999> nrdb: nope. i just used the phonebook and called someone at random to test when i first set it up:)
[03:23] <Lynoure> nrdb: I have skype, just need to start it.
[03:23] <nrdb> Lynoure: do you know your internet IP address?
[03:24] <Lynoure> nrdb: I'm behind a nat but I know the public ip, yep
[03:24] <seele> can you use apt to downgrade a video driver, or will i have to downgrade the entire x package?
[03:25] <nrdb> Lynoure: 202.125.28.215
[03:25] <nrdb> Lynoure: skype call name "neil_dugan"
[03:26] <Lynoure> nrdb: I don't think I need you ip for anything
[03:27] <nrdb> Lynoure: I am going to be running ethereal to look at where the packets are going, what is your internet IP address?
[03:27] <Lynoure> nrdb: --> /msg
[03:27] <bluesceada> hi
[03:27] <nrdb> Lynoure: call me.
[03:27] <bluesceada> anyone knows how to explain a gui guy to update from breezy to dapper?
[03:28] <bluesceada> he installed breezy by cd and now wants to update to dapper by cd
[03:28] <Lynoure> nrdb: With default settings they most often go through a third party
[03:28] <bluesceada> he said he cant add the package sources in synaptic
[03:28] <nrdb> Lynoure: I have setup a dedicated port for skype.
[03:28] <bluesceada> (he had ubuntu breezy and now uses a kubuntu cd to update to dapper..)
[03:28] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, yep install update-manager and use that
[03:28] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: ah
[03:29] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, he has got internet?
[03:29] <bluesceada> yeh though just isdn
[03:30] <simarillion> has somebody of you ati radeon mobility 9000
[03:30] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: he installed update-manager.. but doesnt do what to do now
[03:30] <Lynoure> nrdb: Are you getting any of my /msgs?
[03:31] <bluesceada> an update from one ubuntu cd to the next should be as easy as: insert cd, start app from cd, stuff gets updated, finished
[03:31] <nrdb> Lynoure: didn't notice till just now.
[03:31] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, if he has breezy the dialog at the top should tell hime dapper is available and there should be button to press to install it
[03:31] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: but not from cd
[03:32] <bluesceada> which dialog
[03:32] <nrdb> Lynoure: did you get my message
[03:32] <kaoss> hi!
[03:32] <kaoss> anyone from Italy?
[03:32] <Lynoure> nrdb: I think you cannot send any was you are not identified to the services
[03:32] <Lynoure> !it
[03:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:32] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, update-manager dialog, using the internet
[03:33] <bluesceada> ah
[03:33] <nrdb> Lynoure: try starting a skype chat
[03:33] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: but he has a too slow connection
[03:33] <bluesceada> he needs to use the cd
[03:33] <Lynoure> nrdb: join /nrdb-temp
[03:33] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, from cd would need to download alternative CD not sure how this would work
[03:33] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: :(
[03:34] <bluesceada> *ubuntu still isnt as easy as it should be :/
[03:34] <bluesceada> ok...
[03:34] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, he can order it free of charge
[03:34] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: order what
[03:34] <bluesceada> he has the cd
[03:34] <bluesceada> that's not the problem....
[03:35] <bluesceada> dunno if it's the alternative
[03:35] <bluesceada> it's the pressed kubuntu dapper 6.06 lts
[03:35] <fritsch> bluesceada: just boot from it, it only asks: install textmode?
[03:35] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, the alternative cd?
[03:35] <fritsch> bluesceada: oki, thats the graphical live cd with install option
[03:35] <bluesceada> fritsch: ah .. can you boot from it and select to update from breezy??
[03:36] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, if it boots to a text installer it is, if it's a lve cd it is not
[03:36] <fritsch> bluesceada: if he has breezy already installed, there is a special way
[03:36] <simarillion>  has somebody of you ati radeon mobility 9000
[03:36] <fritsch> gatekeeper: correct
[03:36] <bluesceada> it's a live cd
[03:36] <gatekeeper> over to you fritsch :-)
[03:38] <fritsch> bluesceada: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades <- look here
[03:38] <bluesceada> thanks
[03:39] <fritsch> bluesceada: my tipp would be: save your home and reinstall a new dapper
[03:40] <bluesceada> fritsch: ew...
[03:40] <bluesceada> dunno if he wants that
[03:40] <bluesceada> probably not
[03:40] <bluesceada> he is not such a geek ;-)
[03:40] <fritsch> bluesceada: i did not get what he wants (was not online)
[03:40] <bluesceada> i thought *ubuntu should also be for normal people ;-)
[03:40] <fritsch> bluesceada: :-)
[03:40] <bluesceada> he is someone like that
[03:40] <fritsch> bluesceada: *g* me too
[03:41] <fritsch> bluesceada: ;-)
[03:41] <bluesceada> hm
[03:41] <gatekeeper> bluesceada, how slow is his line?
[03:41] <fritsch> simarillion: what about the radeon 9000?
[03:41] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: dunno .. maybe 10kb/s or so
[03:41] <fritsch> gatekeeper: he owns a kubuntu dapper cd
[03:42] <bluesceada> it was 1-2 hours downloading 60mb
[03:42] <fritsch> bluesceada: just add this one to the sources list
[03:42] <vlt> Hello. How can I assign a variable in a /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/* file? "FOO=bar; echo $FOO;" doesn't work here.
[03:42] <fritsch> vlt: :-) nice cross posting
[03:42] <vlt> :-)
[03:42] <fritsch> vlt: but i do not get your question
[03:42] <fritsch> vlt: semantically
[03:43] <dhq> i need help i want to install xserver i am rite now in bash
[03:43] <dhq> plz help
[03:43] <fritsch> dhg: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:43] <fritsch> dhq: or the "all over" way: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <dhq> but i am in bash no graphical
[03:44] <fritsch> dhq: this installs all dependencies with it
[03:44] <fritsch> dhq: sudo apt-get install your package
[03:44] <fritsch> dhq: does not need any graphics
[03:45] <steven> Hey, can someone help me really fast?
[03:46] <fritsch> steven: what the problem?
[03:46] <steven> Is there a minimize all command/button on the taskbar?
[03:46] <ricardo_> Martijn81: dude...that help was excellent!!!!!! thanks a lot...keep the good work!
[03:46] <fritsch> steven: you can try dcop
[03:46] <abattoir> steven: there is the show desktop applet, which you can add
[03:46] <steven> <---- Noob.
[03:46] <steven> Dcop?
[03:46] <steven> :D
[03:47] <fritsch> steven: mom just looking
[03:47] <abattoir> steven: rt. click on the 'taskbar'->Add applet->Show desktop
[03:47] <vlt> fritsch: I have a konqueror servicemenu file. There's a line "exec=..." for each service entry in konqueror's  context menu. Things like "echo $(cat ... | cut ...) > /file" work fine. But "FOO=bar; echo $FOO > /file" results in an empty /file ... How can I assign variables?
[03:47] <fritsch> abattoir: hehe :-) omg, i think too geeky
[03:47] <abattoir> steven: click on it once would minimize all windows, and show the desktop, clicking on it again would restore the windows
[03:47] <abattoir> fritsch: hehe
[03:48] <fritsch> vlt: can you give me a concrete example? or the exact file?
[03:49] <vlt> !pastebin
[03:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:49] <dhq> hey there seem to be a problem with my pc i the top of my screen is empty and the desktop starts 5 cm below i cant see my mouse
[03:49] <nakeee> how do I install in expert mode using kubuntu dvd?
[03:49] <dhq> can anyone help or will have to reinstall
[03:50] <bluesceada> dhq: laptop ?
[03:50] <dhq> yes
[03:50] <dhq> bluesceada: yes
[03:50] <dhq> it worked fine for some days then i dont know what happ
[03:51] <bluesceada> maybe some update
[03:51] <bluesceada> what kind of laptop
[03:51] <fritsch> vlt: i only see .desktop files in this directory
[03:51] <bluesceada> what kind of graphics adapter..
[03:51] <Martijn81> ricardo_: yw :)
[03:51] <dhq> intel
[03:51] <dhq> bluesceada: intel
[03:52] <fritsch> vlt: ah here:
[03:52] <bluesceada> dhq: hm sorry i dont know then, maybe look in the forums, or google
[03:53] <fritsch> vlt: try Exec=sh -c "FOO=bar && echo $FOO"
[03:53] <Lord_Athur> hi
[03:54] <fritsch> vlt: :-) forget it
[03:54] <dek_aik> dhq: are u losing your X
[03:56] <eeos> hi there! I am trying to use skype on kubuntu 6.06 for AMD64. I have tried all the different packages, without succeeding. Anyone with expereince?
[03:56] <vlt> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19306
[03:56] <vlt> fritsch: Line 18
[03:56] <xbehave> ive installed xubuntu what do i need to do to install kde aswell so i can switch between the 2?
[03:57] <vlt> fritsch: I try to put the modified filename into a variable. Later I want to use it as an argument for pdftk ...
[03:58] <steven> Oh jeez. When someone has a minute, a little assistance.
[03:58] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:58] <steven> Hallo.
[03:59] <vlt> fritsch: I know I could do it that way: "pdftk ... output $(echo %f | perl ...)" but in the section [Join]  I need a little bit more scripting magic to handle multiple filenaems properly ...
[03:59] <vlt> s/aem/ame
[03:59] <gatekeeper_> steven, just ask your question
[03:59] <gatekeeper_> !ask
[04:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:00] <steven> !ask Deleted main menu
[04:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask Deleted main menu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:00] <steven> :(
[04:00] <eeos> hi there! I am trying to use skype on kubuntu 6.06 for AMD64. I have tried all the different packages, without succeeding. Anyone with expereince?
[04:02] <fritsch> vlt: don`t know, sorry
[04:03] <dhq_> bluesceada: intel
[04:03] <xbehave> steven im not sure how relavent this is but form xubuntu chan topic Menu editor bug fixed in dapper-updates
[04:03] <dhq_> bluesceada: need help
[04:03] <bluesceada> dhq_: cant help, sorry
[04:03] <bluesceada> maybe look at the forums :S
[04:04] <bluesceada> and ask there
[04:04] <steven> Well, xbehave, I think I did it....
[04:04] <steven> :D
[04:04] <dhq_> do you have any idea what it may be
[04:04] <steven> Cleaning up the little taskbar area.
[04:04] <bluesceada> dhq_: something with the graphics driver
[04:04] <bluesceada> or with the modes you can set for the tft
[04:04] <dhq_> hey there seem to be a problem with my pc i the top of my screen is empty and the desktop starts 5 cm below i cant see my mouse
[04:04] <gatekeeper_> eeos, no but my guess is that you would a 32bit version as you do with firefox and flash player
[04:05] <dhq_> i can use the mouse but cant see it
[04:05] <fritsch> steven: you can reset your kde to the default settings by deleting your .kde directory (after that everything!!! from your kde settings is gone)
[04:05] <gatekeeper_> ooops install a 32 bit version
[04:05] <dhq_> |lostbyte|: you there
[04:05] <eeos> yes, but it does not run. it does not find some of the libraries.
[04:05] <fritsch> eeos: what library?
[04:05] <fritsch> eeos: dpkg -S library name or apt-cache search library name
[04:06] <dhq_> suliman: you from kuwait
[04:06] <dhq_> any guys plz help me
[04:07] <dek_aik> dhq: xserver for intel is  xserver-xorg-driver-i740..just "sudo apt-get xserver-xorg" in terminal
[04:07] <dek_aik> dhq_: xserver for intel is  xserver-xorg-driver-i740..just "sudo apt-get xserver-xorg" in terminal
[04:07] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:07] <fritsch> dek_aik: told him half an hour before ...
[04:07] <dek_aik> fritsch: yes..you did
[04:07] <fritsch> dek_aik: i think, he wants to "send" us ssh connection and login
[04:07] <fritsch> dek_aik: :-)
[04:08] <dek_aik> fritsch: yea...;)
[04:09] <roryyy48> helloo...
[04:09] <ninhertatil> hi all
[04:10] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:10] <dhq_> dek_aik: it doenst work
[04:10] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:10] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:10] <fritsch> dhq_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:10] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:11] <dek_aik> fritsch: lost him again
[04:11] <eeos> gatekeeper: I am trying to install
[04:11] <dhq_> no im here
[04:11] <fritsch> dhq_: does this command work?
[04:11] <Emess> anyone know what would i need to open a Microsoft Publisher file?
[04:11] <dhq_> dek_aik: i get E invalid operation xserver
[04:11] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:12] <fritsch> dhq_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:12] <fritsch> dek_aik: missed the "install"
[04:12] <dhq_> dek_aik: fritsch i get E invalid operation xserver-xserver
[04:12] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:12] <fritsch> dhq_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:12] <dhq_> ok
[04:12] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:12] <roryyy48> plsss
[04:13] <fritsch> dhq_: or if you use kubuntu and want the "whole" thing your can also just do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <roryyy48> does anyone know something about ubuntu classroom,that starts in august 5th?
[04:13] <ubuntu> hello
[04:13] <dek_aik> dhq_: yes..do what fritsch told you first
[04:13] <dhq_> i did that
[04:14] <ubuntu> I'm beginin on kubuntu
[04:14] <lens> AegeanLinux: I'm awake now if your still around.
[04:14] <KaiHanari> roryyy48, please stop repeating. if someone knew they would speak of it
[04:14] <Ace2007> roryyy48: google it
[04:14] <dek_aik> dhq_: what happen with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:14] <dhq_> package service have no installation candidate
[04:14] <ubuntu> I hae a lot of problem with my security update
[04:14] <Ace2007> roryyy48: Then you'd have found this: http://www.thesethingsmattertome.com/2006/07/ubuntus-classroom.html
[04:14] <fritsch> dhq_ hehe :-)
[04:14] <fritsch> dhq_: seems something wrong with your sources.list
[04:14] <gatekeeper_> !repos > dhq_
[04:15] <fritsch> dhq_: courd you try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <roryyy48> k
[04:15] <roryyy48> 10x
[04:17] <Giorgio> (it's only a proof)
[04:18] <Ace2007> The first one is "Introduction to Internet Relay Chat (IRC)" i wonder if its about how to use IRC, the very thing your using to get to the classroom, or maybe its how to set up an IRC server, that'd be cool
[04:18] <cerda> can ping sites but internet doesnt work, anyone knows anything about it??
[04:19] <Ace2007> cerda: DNS problem?
[04:19] <cerda> dont know exactly what it is :(
[04:19] <Ace2007> try ping digg.com that'll show if its dns
[04:20] <fritsch> cerda: no dns problem, you could not ping something- proxy problem?
[04:20] <vlt> cerda: OMFG, the internet doens't work!!! ;-))
[04:20] <vlt> cerda: How are you connected?
[04:20] <Ace2007> vlt: Another computer? windows? oh the possibilities
[04:20] <cerda> another pc, windows =/
[04:21] <cerda> i have a d-link 502g here
[04:21] <vlt> cerda: What I wanted to ask was: Modem/ISDN/DSL/WLAN/LAN/...
[04:21] <cerda> theres another pc with linux connect to the network and runs fine with it
[04:22] <cerda> i had a problem before about setting my network card for 10mbits on windows
[04:22] <Giorgio> hola, alguien sabe que tengo que hacer para conectarme a un canal del irc-hispano con el Konversation?
[04:22] <vlt> cerda: What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" say?
[04:22] <cerda> i had windows ultin yesterday
[04:22] <cerda> vlt ill see it, 1 sec need to get to the other room :] 
[04:24] <cerda> it says namserver 10.1.1.1
[04:25] <fritsch> cerda: am i right? you can do: ping www.cnn.com?
[04:25] <dhq> fritsch: i reconfugured my desktop
[04:25] <Riddell> gnomefreak: ping
[04:26] <cerda> fritsch yes i can
[04:26] <dhq> fritsch: still there is no mouse and the screen is 4cm down i cant see status bae
[04:26] <fritsch> dhq: look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf what driver is actually used
[04:26] <Ace2007> cerda: try browsing in konqueror
[04:27] <fritsch> dhq_: it`s under section "Device"
[04:28] <fritsch> cerda: please disable all proxy servers (kde, firefox, etc.) I think that`s the problem
[04:28] <McScruff> how can i find out what brand my hdd is
[04:29] <fritsch> McScruff: dmesg |grep -i hda
[04:29] <McScruff> ty
[04:29] <dhq> fritsch: its using the intel display only
[04:29] <cerda> fritsch how can i do that? :(
[04:29] <gnomefreak> Riddell: pong
[04:29] <dhq> fritsch: can you login my pc and check it out
[04:29] <fritsch> dhq: lol
[04:29] <dhq> fritsch: that is if you dont ming
[04:30] <dhq> fritsch: i need help thats why
[04:30] <Riddell> gnomefreak: you're using 3.5.4 on dapper right?
[04:30] <fritsch> dhq: no ;-) just try sth. other
[04:30] <gnomefreak> nope
[04:30] <gnomefreak> Riddell: on edgy
[04:30] <Riddell> hmm, right
[04:30] <dhq> fritsch: whats sth
[04:30] <Riddell> gnomefreak: have you had any problems with it not respecting kubuntu-default-settings?
[04:30] <cerda> fritsch how can i turn off the proxy servers? :/
[04:30] <gnomefreak> not yet
[04:31] <fritsch> cerda: you are using konqueror to browse the web?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Riddell: should i be?
[04:31] <cerda> konqueror and firefox
[04:31] <Riddell> gnomefreak: I am and others are, but that's on dapper
[04:31] <sergiusens> hi there, I have a q... does kubuntu 6.06 have that problem (well kubuntu is not the problem) with partitioning that caused windowstm partition problems?
[04:31] <fritsch> cerda: in firefox: Settings -> Connection Settings
[04:32] <gnomefreak> Riddell: give me a min ill log into kde.
[04:32] <fritsch> cerda: konqueror, KDE System Settings -> Connections -> Proxy
[04:32] <fritsch> Riddell: Is it okay to use your 3.5.4 packages already?
[04:33] <anne_> hello. can anyone point me to a fix for the following bug: when i try to access my floppy through system:/media in konqueror it won't work then it tells me it's already mounted in /media/fd0...?
[04:33] <Riddell> fritsch: if you want to help with testing them of course
[04:33] <fritsch> Riddell: last time it wanted to uninstall kdelibs-bin, so i was careful
[04:33] <Riddell> fritsch: that's ok, that package doesn't exist any more
[04:34] <Riddell> anne_: known problem, supposidly fixed in KDE 3.5.4
[04:34] <fritsch> Riddell: okay, just upgrading, do I need a new hal version?
[04:34] <Riddell> yes
[04:35] <fritsch> Riddell: is it downloaded from your packages?
[04:35] <Riddell> yes
[04:35] <fritsch> Riddell: okay, i have to "dist-upgrade", only upgrade is not working (because of new package installation and romaval)
[04:36] <ThunderStruck> Riddell: all seems fine. (assuming by default settings you mean the settings that came with it)
[04:36] <anne_> Riddell: is KDE 3.5.4 out as of now ?
[04:36] <Riddell> anne_: no, it's in testing
[04:36] <fritsch> anne_: beta packages for testing and bugreports, i think
[04:36] <gnomefreak> anne_: no not really (its in testing)
[04:36] <anne_> ok. thx
[04:37] <Riddell> gnomefreak: so e.g. the k-menu has a kubuntu image on the side?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> they are the same
[04:37] <gnomefreak> never noticed the kubuntu image being there before
[04:38] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i just disabled it, because of space
[04:38] <Riddell> gnomefreak: so that's a yes?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Riddell: yes they are default
[04:38] <Riddell> good good
[04:38] <Riddell> doesn't explain why it's broken for me on dapper though
[04:38] <fritsch> Riddell: wargh ;-)
[04:38] <eeos> hi there. Anyone with expereince in using skype on kubuntu 606 for amd64?
[04:39] <uniq> Riddell: kmenu on edgy has kubuntu image on the side. fyi.
[04:39] <fritsch> uniq: I think he knows ;-)
[04:40] <Riddell> uniq: thanks
[04:40] <Riddell> fritsch: more reports are good
[04:40] <gnomefreak> uniq: it does i was just looking at it ;)
[04:40] <Riddell> but now I need reports from dapper
[04:40] <fritsch> Riddell: shel I open i private chat window?
[04:40] <Riddell> fritsch: why?
[04:41] <fritsch> Riddell: don want to spam :-)
[04:41] <gnomefreak> uniq: i have dapper upstairs and edgy on this pc
[04:41] <Riddell> fritsch: use a pastebin then
[04:41] <uniq> gnomefreak: ah.. ok.. i'm just jumping into the conversation pretending to pay attention anyway. :)
[04:41] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:41] <fritsch> Riddell: dist-upgrade is done without problems (just some notifications about "is removed" as requested)
[04:42] <Riddell> fritsch: restart X and let me know if it works then
[04:42] <fritsch> Riddell:  ha! happy too early
[04:43] <fritsch> Riddell: errors while working on kdebase-date_4%3a ..... kdebase_bin kaudiocreator
[04:43] <gnomefreak> lol those were easy
[04:43] <lens> Is flash 9 absolutely incompatible with Konqueror?
[04:43] <fritsch> yes force-overwrite seems to work
[04:43] <gnomefreak> fritsch: it says it couldnt overwrite?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> yep that would do it
[04:43] <Riddell> fritsch: what's the error?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> linthere is no flash 9 yet
[04:43] <lens> oh ok...
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Riddell: fails to overwrite "path"
[04:44] <fritsch> Riddell: yes
[04:44] <Riddell> fritsch: please pastebin the error
[04:44] <lens> hrmm, I can't get flash to work in konqueror
[04:44] <fritsch> Riddell: its in german, sorry :-) but I will do
[04:44] <gnomefreak> !flash > lens
[04:44] <gnomefreak> len please read the msg ubotu sent you there is a part for it
[04:45] <gnomefreak> nalioth_: ping
[04:46] <nalioth_> pong
[04:46] <gnomefreak> having him in that channel isnt that great of an idea (in -ops) he will spam the hell out of it.
[04:47] <gnomefreak> guess Seveas saw it
[04:47] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ?
[04:47] <fritsch> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19308
[04:47] <gnomefreak> Seveas: clint
[04:47] <nalioth_> gnomefreak is sufferering from headspace and timing issues
[04:47] <gnomefreak> thats all he does is talk/spam
[04:48] <Seveas> ah
[04:48] <Seveas> well, I'll remove all non-ops and non-regulars from time to time
[04:49] <fritsch> Riddell: kdm restarted! The default splash screen is not the kubuntu anymore
[04:49] <Riddell> fritsch: thanks
[04:49] <bbw> mabay stupid question but where can i find the source list
[04:49] <gnomefreak> mine is still the default splash
[04:49] <fritsch> and! my kde button is away ;-)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> fritsch: away? like on vacation?
[04:50] <fritsch> gnomefreak: lol :-) no, i could add it again (sorry bad english)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> lol its all good
[04:50] <fritsch> gnomefreak: it`s like after a debian unstable upgrade (so no problem)
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:51] <bbw> maby stupid question but where can i find the source list (LINUX NOOB_ HELP)
[04:51] <gnomefreak> bbw: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <bbw> thanks
[04:51] <fritsch> Riddell: moved .kde out of the way (because mine was very customised)
[04:52] <Riddell> fritsch: does that fix anything?
[04:52] <fritsch> Riddell: default settings: no kubuntu splash again
[04:53] <fritsch> Riddell: start button is there again, but not the known kubuntu customazations
[04:53] <fritsch> Riddell: not the kubuntu wallpaper, etc.
[04:53] <fritsch> Riddell: even the kubuntu logo is missing
[04:53] <fritsch> Riddell: in the menu bar
[04:53] <fritsch> gnomefreak: it was from your old .kde directory
[04:54] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:54] <gnomefreak> afaik i only have one
[04:54] <soulrider> !eclipseide
[04:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about eclipseide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:54] <fritsch> gnomefreak: try deleting .kde and restart kdm (just to be sure?)
[04:54] <fritsch> gnomefreak: moving it away is alos okay?, perhaps .local also
[04:54] <illness> hi everyone
[04:55] <gnomefreak> k hold on
[04:56] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:56] <Riddell> fritsch: ok, you're seeing the same issue as I'm having
[04:56] <illness> i have a problem, can someone help:  I installed kubuntu and when i try to play mp3s in amarok i get no sound and it just stops playing...  I have installed the xine-xtracodecs and the normal system sounds work.  Any advice
[04:56] <Riddell> fritsch: I have no idea what the problem is
[04:56] <liviux> hi all What are you talking about?
[04:57] <soulrider> illness: i got the smae problem
[04:57] <liviux> illness
[04:57] <soulrider> i cant play mp3s :S
[04:57] <illness> k
[04:57] <soulrider> and i installed all that extra stuff
[04:57] <fritsch> Riddell: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to peroperly configure your user
[04:57] <liviux> you need some codecs
[04:57] <soulrider> which ?
[04:57] <liviux> there is a link in the official kubuntu site
[04:57] <liviux> wait...
[04:57] <soulrider> ok
[04:57] <illness> like i said i tried to install some however it didnt make a diffrence
[04:58] <soulrider> btw, guys, i downloaded adn extracted Eclipse, for writing java pps, but i dont know hwo to run it lol
[04:58] <fritsch> Riddell: Looking up applications under /usr/share/applications /usr/share/applicatiuons/kde
[04:59] <fritsch> Riddell: wait he still reads .config from my home directory, ill move this away, too
[04:59] <Gustavo34> ] [] [] [- www.misecretito.com.ar -] [] [] [
[04:59] <liviux> gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 have you download this pack?
[05:00] <soulrider> why does it take AGES for adept to open ?
[05:00] <soulrider> or why wont it open at all ?
[05:00] <illness> nope
[05:00] <illness> ill try that one sec
[05:00] <fritsch> Riddell: okay /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/default is not linked to /usr/share/apps/ksplash/kubuntu
[05:00] <suliman> hi
[05:00] <fritsch> Riddell: this fixes the wrong ksplas, i think (just trying)
[05:01] <ThunderStruck> ok i still have menu and kubuntu logo in menu
[05:01] <fritsch> Riddell: mmmh the /usr/share/apps/ksplash/kubuntu not working, sorry
[05:01] <soulrider> errr, adept isnt responding :-/
[05:01] <liviux> remember you must activate the "universe and multiverse" server from adept
[05:02] <illness> liviux: nope didnt work either
[05:02] <illness> or do i need to restart or something
[05:03] <Ace2007> Hi all which repo is kmencoder in?
[05:03] <Ace2007> !kmencoder
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about kmencoder - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Riddell: the klibs are same in dapper and edgy right?
[05:03] <Riddell> gnomefreak: in theory yes
[05:04] <Hobbsee> !info kmencoder
[05:04] <ubotu> Package kmencoder does not exist in dapper
[05:04] <Hobbsee> !info kmencoder edgy
[05:04] <ubotu> Package kmencoder does not exist in edgy
[05:04] <Hobbsee> Ace2007: none of them, i suspect
[05:04] <soulrider> how cna i see the processes running ?
[05:04] <hussam> Riddell: hi, I wanted to ask a question earlier but then I got disconnected. Will edgy have Oxygen icon theme?
[05:04] <soulrider> i ran adept twice and it never appeared on my screen
[05:04] <Riddell> hussam: no
[05:05] <suliman> how can i install nvidia without using cd-rom?
[05:05] <hussam> Riddell: ok thanks. :)
[05:05] <soulrider> download latest drivers?
[05:05] <soulrider> but i believe they are included
[05:05] <fritsch> Riddell: Can I look into sth.?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> i dont see why it should be different. im thinking maybe a qt-lib is different version
[05:05] <fritsch> Riddell: where is the customazation path fr the kubuntu settings?
[05:05] <Riddell> fritsch: /etc/kderc
[05:05] <Ace2007> Hobbsee: y?
[05:06] <fritsch> Riddell: okay, i`ll have a look and compare to 3.5.3
[05:06] <liviux> illness try to read this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:06] <illness> k
[05:06] <illness> thnx
[05:06] <Hobbsee> Ace2007: because no one has packaged it yet?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> fritsch: wouldnt a .diff be easier?
[05:07] <Ace2007> Hobbsee: Why would no one package it? since there is no other front end for mencoder in the repos?
[05:07] <fritsch> Riddell: got it!
[05:07] <Hobbsee> Ace2007: because there are a few billion other things waiting to be packaged too?  add it to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[05:07] <gnomefreak> fritsch: what is it?
[05:08] <viktor_> hi all is there anyone that can help me with drivers for a "Realtek ac'97 alc850" i have searched google for a couple hours now without results
[05:08] <fritsch> Riddell: in 353 there is /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings: kde-profile
[05:08] <fritsch> Riddell: in 354 there is only "share"
[05:08] <Riddell> fritsch: where?
[05:08] <soulrider> illness:  http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[05:08] <fritsch>  /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/
[05:08] <Ace2007> Hobbsee: Oh i never knew there was a quere
[05:08] <soulrider> http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06 sorry, i typ0d the first one
[05:09] <Ace2007> queue"
[05:09] <gnomefreak> i have it
[05:09] <gnomefreak> fritsch: i have /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kdeprofile
[05:10] <fritsch> kde-profile?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> fritsch: its inside the kubuntu-default-settings
[05:10] <soulrider> i need some help please, i got 5 different adept processes running, but i cant close them
[05:10] <gnomefreak> kde-profile even
[05:10] <fritsch> gnomefreak: okay have it too, i just back it up
[05:11] <fritsch> gnomefreak: and copy the old ones over *g* does this make any sense?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> it still doesnt explain why mine is default and his/yours is not
[05:11] <gnomefreak> fritsch: like you dont have the kubuntu logo inside the K menu
[05:12] <fritsch> gnomefreak: did you delete the ".kde" and restarted?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:12] <gnomefreak> and the default took over
[05:12] <gnomefreak> and everything is fine here
[05:12] <fritsch> gnomefreak: okay copied the 353 kde-profile over <- nothing :-(
[05:13] <gnomefreak> seeing as the code didnt change for dapper-edgy i have a feeling its a qt lib that is different maybe?
[05:14] <Lord_Athur> how can i print a document with nano?
[05:14] <andi_> hello
[05:14] <andi_> can anybody help me ?
[05:14] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i think some path is hardcoded
[05:14] <Lord_Athur> what's the poblem andi_ ?
[05:14] <fritsch> or kderc is not read correctly?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> fritsch: if the path was hardcoded i should have same issues
[05:15] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes that`s right
[05:15] <fritsch> gnomefreak: you want to have a "dpkg -l |grep somthing?
[05:15] <andi_> I have the newest version of kubuntu.....my problem is....i cant install any programmes...in the adept manager tooo...
[05:15] <gnomefreak> fritsch: what do you want me to look for?
[05:16] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i want to trace if kdm uses kderc
[05:16] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i think it just "overgoes" some file
[05:16] <Lord_Athur> is there any error message andi_ ?
[05:16] <andi_> i can put it on the request install but i cant apply the requestes
[05:16] <fritsch> gnomefreak: but wait i`ll do a kdm stop and a kdm start (perhaps restart does sth. other)
[05:17] <andi_> no error messages or something else.
[05:17] <Lord_Athur> does apt work?
[05:17] <andi_> the symbol is only to apply it is deaktivated
[05:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i don`t have any non standart packages, despite amarok141
[05:18] <andi_> i am sorry for my bad english, but i hope you got it.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> amarok 1.4.1 koffice 1.5.2 kde 3.5.4 is what i have
[05:19] <liviux> illness if  you are still problems (maybe the page wasn't correct) contact me because also I have had the same problem little long ago
[05:19] <gnomefreak> other than that i have ksmooth but that doesnt screw with default settings
[05:19] <tony_> does anyone know how to get the mp3 audio previews? i had it going before but don't know how
[05:19] <andi_> Lord?
[05:20] <Lord_Athur> andi_, what's your native language?
[05:20] <illness> liviux: still doesnt work
[05:20] <illness> i already installed those packages
[05:20] <gnomefreak> brb goes for smoke
[05:20] <andi_> My native language is german
[05:20] <Lord_Athur> :(
[05:20] <Lord_Athur> ok
[05:21] <Lord_Athur> what do you want to mean with "the symbol is only to apply it is deaktivated"?
[05:21] <Lord_Athur> can't you use the command "sudo apt-get install..." on the shell?
[05:21] <andi_> the 3rd symbol of left in the adept manager is grey...so i cant click on it.
[05:22] <illness> andi: brauchst du einen bersetzer?? ;)
[05:22] <fritsch> Riddell: you want the output from kdm?
[05:22] <liviux> have you activate the "universe and multiverse" server from adept?
[05:22] <andi_> *gg* Illness danke frs Angebot irgendwie schaff ichs :)
[05:22] <andi_> I dont think sooo liviux
[05:23] <illness> me? yeah...
[05:24] <liviux> and you've download gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3?
[05:25] <liviux> libxine-extracodecs and akode-mpeg too?
[05:25] <Riddell> fritsch: is it useful?
[05:25] <liviux> are nedeed only whit Kubuntu
[05:25] <illness> not akode
[05:25] <liviux> try
[05:27] <illness> hmm says couldnt find package
[05:28] <McScruff>   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext  <<help pls, im trying to make vlc
[05:28] <fritsch> Riddell: not really, only this:
[05:28] <fritsch> dmgreet: set vars!!!!!!!!
[05:28] <fritsch> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
[05:28] <fritsch> Riddell: wargh, sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19311
[05:28] <dek_aik> illness: its libakode2-mpeg
[05:28] <liviux> Try to tipe "mpeg" from adept and install the main pack
[05:29] <liviux> "libakode2-mpeg"
[05:30] <illness> k
[05:30] <Ati> ree
[05:30] <illness> only did the packages from the console so far
[05:30] <illness> one sec
[05:31] <Ati> Lord?
[05:32] <fritsch> Riddell: .xsession-errors says Inactive pixmap /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/spasl <-so it does not use the kubuntu theme
[05:32] <liviux> sudo apt-get install libakode2-mpeg
[05:32] <illness> yeah already did it
[05:32] <illness> no change
[05:34] <Ati> illness ?
[05:34] <Ati> Vllt kannst du mir helfen...
[05:34] <chenlevy> Hi all
[05:35] <Ati> hello chenlevy
[05:35] <chenlevy> I have problem sending mail with kmail
[05:35] <chenlevy> I have verified my smtp server, and did a manual session with it via telnet
[05:35] <illness> Ati: bin selber n00b aber was gibts
[05:36] <chenlevy> I had tried to monitor the truffic with tcpdump but I see no truffic
[05:36] <Ati> *g* Ok dann warte ich mal bis einer von den "Freaks" daist :D
[05:36] <chenlevy> How can I debug this?
[05:36] <dek_aik> illness: try to restart sound-server-->"killall artsd" and restart amarok
[05:37] <dek_aik> illness: and make sure that you pick xine as your engine
[05:38] <illness> still doesnt work
[05:38] <illness> should i leave the output on autodetect?
[05:38] <liviux> in my case he has all worked only when I have turned off relighted the computer, but I don't know....
[05:39] <illness> alright ill restart real quick
[05:39] <illness> thnx cya in a sec
[05:39] <andi_> liviux ?
[05:41] <liviux> what
[05:41] <liviux> andi what do you want?
[05:41] <andi_> Can u help me ?
[05:42] <liviux> about what?
[05:42] <Neo_> hi all
[05:42] <Ace2007> hi
[05:42] <Neo_> i have a big problem
[05:42] <soulrider> hi all
[05:42] <Ace2007> how big?
[05:42] <Ace2007> hi
[05:42] <andi_> http://upload.aka5.de/up/Bildschirmphoto1.jpg @liviux
[05:42] <Neo_> my sound card thos'ent work
[05:42] <andi_> I cant add any programms
[05:42] <Ace2007> seen bigger
[05:43] <andi_> in the adept manager
[05:43] <fritsch> Riddell: sorry can`t help you - cannot find anything :-(
[05:43] <Ace2007> well what sound card do you have?
[05:43] <Neo_> i have a soundMax
[05:43] <Neo_> in a laptop ibm T42
[05:43] <Neo_> i juste install kubuntu
[05:43] <Riddell> fritsch: it's a totaly mystery, same packages work fine in edgy
[05:43] <Neo_> but the sound thos'ent work
[05:43] <soulrider> !soundmax
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundmax - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <illness> re
[05:43] <fritsch> Riddell: i just try with a totally new user
[05:43] <chenlevy> fritsch, I wanted to thank you for the help on that other day with my knoqueror problem. It tured out I had some bad memroy
[05:44] <liviux> andi have you tried to work from konsole?
[05:44] <andi_> no i dont no how
[05:44] <Ace2007> Alsa sould support SoundMAX: http://forms.analog.com/Form_Pages/soundMax/soundMaxSupportFAQ.html#question6
[05:44] <fritsch> chenlevy: cool
[05:45] <viktor_> i have a realtek alc850 ac'97 how can i get all the channels (or the S/PDIF]  to work on it ???
[05:45] <fritsch> Riddell: okay totally new user does not make a difference
[05:45] <illness> k
[05:45] <illness> it works... stupid problem
[05:46] <liviux> whit the shell type "sudo apt-get install" and the name of the pack you want to download
[05:46] <dek_aik> illness: ...:)
[05:46] <illness> i tried playing them from a windows partition and it didnt work
[05:46] <illness> now if i copy them to the desktop they do
[05:46] <liviux> wow problem solved!
[05:46] <illness> any suggestions
[05:47] <illness> thnx alot tho
[05:47] <illness> really helpful community makes swithchin over way easier
[05:47] <dek_aik> illness: you could set the files so that you could read/write windows part files
[05:48] <illness> yeah?
[05:48] <illness> how would i do that
[05:48] <illness> its ntfs
[05:48] <dabbler> kubuntu told me to upgrade, but get 18 errors :
[05:48] <dabbler> Err http://za.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe librss1 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.1
[05:48] <dabbler>   404 Not Found
[05:48] <liviux> andi are you here?
[05:48] <illness> do i stil need to convert to fat32 or can linux write ntfs now to
[05:49] <dabbler> when do the mirrors get updated ?
[05:49] <andi_> yes
[05:50] <liviux> ? have you tried?
[05:50] <cerda> can ping sites but internet doesnt work
[05:51] <andi_> yes i tried to typ in sudo apt-get install gimp
[05:51] <dek_aik> illness: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions yes but you can only read/play them not edit the tag for example
[05:51] <illness> oh well thats good enuff
[05:51] <illness> thnx ill have a look
[05:51] <liviux> and it work?
[05:51] <cerda> anyone had this problem too?
[05:53] <andi_> no i dont think so
[05:53] <dek_aik> cerda: have you disable proxy in konq or firefox like suggested earlier?
[05:53] <cerda> proxy isnt enable
[05:55] <dek_aik> cerda: and the /etc/resolv.conf? is it OK?
[05:55] <cerda> yes
[05:55] <liviux> andi maybe you have a lock in the package manager. If you type "atp-get man" from konsole you can find the command for upgrade all the packages (very long operation).
[05:56] <MarsRouter> hi
[05:56] <Neo_> can some one help me plez
[05:56] <Neo_> i don't fine the solution of my sound card
[05:56] <dek_aik> cerda: internet isnot working from the konsole as well?
[05:57] <andi_> no i doesn't work
[05:57] <cerda> dek_aik can only ping
[05:57] <cerda> kopette isnt working too
[05:58] <cerda> dek_aik do u know how can i turn my network card to 10mbits??
[05:59] <fritsch> Riddell: any hint? now i have fetched my bucket?
[05:59] <dek_aik> cerda: did you ever use proxy? sorry for insist but my similar prob solved when i shut the proxy
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> $!@#it kopete won't log into ICQ for me - anyone else? Says my client is too old - and I'm running current SVN.
[06:00] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: I downgraded to 0.11 and that seems to work for me
[06:00] <Riddell> fritsch: bucket?
[06:01] <dek_aik> cerda: i use to do "export http_proxy=http://" in konsole to solve my proxy related prob
[06:01] <fritsch> Riddell: looked it up in the dictionary, wanted to say, that i want to invest time to search
[06:01] <liviux> andi I'm sorry but I don't know...try to ask someone else (however it's a strange problem)
[06:02] <dek_aik> andi_: have you enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:02] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: timing is everything, I updated my trunk about 2 mins ago, joined #kopete just in time to see a revision get posted to fix it.
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Excellent :)
[06:12] <yogi> Anyone out there familiar w/the fetchmail?  It doesn't give an error in daemon mode, nor does it ever check for mail.
[06:12] <yogi> Commandline: fetchmail --flush -f .fetchmailrc -d 420
[06:12] <yogi> Manually executed it works flawlessly
[06:13] <soulrider> !kopete
[06:13] <ubotu> kopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[06:14] <yogi> I need some serious help with fetchmail, please!
[06:15] <Ace2007> i'm trying to install kmencoder and i get: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> Ace2007: install kde-devel
[06:15] <yogi> Sounds as if Qt isn't installed, or too old a version
[06:16] <andi_> liviux i am sorry i had to do some stuff
[06:16] <yogi> Anyone out there help me with fetchmail?  Read man pgs... works, but not as daemon.   No errors.
[06:16] <Ace2007> h3sp4wn: kde-devel and kde-devel-extras already installed
[06:16] <andi_> i dont know i am able to enable this...
[06:16] <andi_> @andi_
[06:17] <liviux> don't worry
[06:17] <fritsch> Riddell: which of the kde packages checks for /etc/kderc?
[06:17] <andi_> how can i enable it ?
[06:18] <dek_aik> andi_: do this in konsole "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:19] <Riddell> fritsch: kdelibs
[06:19] <yogi>  Anyone out there familiar w/the fetchmail?  It doesn't give an error in daemon mode, nor does it ever check for mail.
[06:19] <Riddell> fritsch: kstandarddirs
[06:19] <Riddell> fritsch: and kconfig*
[06:19] <xst> I have just updated my kubuntu installation and now kopete doesn't work: When I try to go online it tells me that the ICQ server thinks my client application is too old. What to do?
[06:19] <yogi>  Commandline: fetchmail --flush -f .fetchmailrc -d 420
[06:19] <yogi> Manually executed it works flawlessly
[06:19] <dek_aik> andi_: comment "deb cdrom" and uncommend the lines with universe and multiverse at the end
[06:19] <ubuntu> hello people
[06:19] <cerda> dek_aik ill try turn iptables down, do u know how can i do it??
[06:19] <soulrider> hey, im looking for a bandwith monitor, somehtign like DU Meter for windows
[06:20] <soulrider> i **NEED** to have a graph on my desktop or something :P
[06:20] <ubuntu> uh.....no
[06:20] <soulrider> hi ubuntu
[06:20] <andred> xst: the protocol has changed again. it has been fixed in svn
[06:20] <ubuntu> how do we install java on this thing?
[06:20] <soulrider> i installed it yesterday
[06:20] <soulrider> hang on
[06:20] <xst> andred: Do you know when kopete will work in kubuntu again then?
[06:21] <andi_> mhm
[06:21] <soulrider> kopete works, im using ti right now :-/
[06:21] <dek_aik> cerda: no i dont sorry, just to check you ping outside or inside your LAN?
[06:21] <andred> xst: you'll have to ask the packagers. no idea
[06:21] <ubuntu> I WANT JAVA!\
[06:21] <xst> andred: ok. How do I reach them?
[06:21] <andred> soulrider: the change occured 20 minutes ago or so. try to reconnect :P
[06:21] <soulrider> hang on a sec
[06:21] <ubuntu> kk
[06:22] <Ace2007> !java
[06:22] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:22] <soulrider> uhm i got disconnected from AIM
[06:22] <soulrider> no, its working for me
[06:22] <xst> Hmm, I wonder why this quite obvious bug hasn't been discovered befoere the kopete package upgrade was published.
[06:22] <andred> xst: ask Hobbsee or Riddell
[06:22] <xst> andred: Thnx
[06:22] <andred> xst: the protocol change occured some minutes ago
[06:22] <xst> ok?
[06:23] <andi_> mhm i didnt work
[06:23] <soulrider> ubuntu, what do you neeed ? just JRe or JDK
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Yup
[06:23] <andi_> but thanks again...
[06:23] <ubuntu> both
[06:23] <andi_> i am out... bye
[06:23] <ubuntu> iw anna play games
[06:23] <ubuntu> runescape
[06:23] <soulrider> but are you gonna program ?
[06:23] <xst> andred: Does that mean that all ICQ clients are currently failing to connect?
[06:23] <soulrider> and runescape sucks :P
[06:24] <ubuntu> are u a kid?
[06:24] <soulrider> i play game sif thats waht you mean
[06:24] <soulrider> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29
[06:24] <soulrider> you got allt he java info there
[06:24] <ubuntu> stick arena
[06:24] <andred> xst: no. they increased the version number that is needed to be allowed to connect. maybe other clients already use a higher number than kopete did
[06:25] <xst> andred: ok, thanks
[06:25] <ubuntu> im downaloding command and conquer generals from ktorrent
[06:25] <ubuntu> how do we open it?
[06:25] <soulrider> its linux
[06:25] <xst> Riddell: Do you know, when a working version of kopete is available in the repositories? (was told that you would know this)
[06:25] <soulrider> i believe you can run it using wine
[06:25] <soulrider> and thast illegal :P
[06:25] <ubuntu> so?
[06:26] <soulrider> im using the latest kopete
[06:26] <ubuntu> i paid but i lost it
[06:26] <soulrider> i updated like 10 mins ago fromt heir site
[06:26] <ubuntu> so im using ktorrent
[06:26] <soulrider> and it works well
[06:26] <ubuntu> wats the site?
[06:26] <soulrider> get command and conquert he first decade
[06:26] <soulrider> !wine
[06:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:26] <soulrider> !google
[06:26] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[06:26] <soulrider> ^_^
[06:27] <ubuntu> soulrider, did you isntall kubuntu?
[06:27] <soulrider> yes
[06:27] <ubuntu> oh.
[06:27] <soulrider> you didnt? :-/
[06:27] <ubuntu> i never knew ho to use it
[06:27] <ubuntu> so i sometimes use it a s a live cd
[06:27] <soulrider> thastw aht the IRC is for ;)
[06:27] <soulrider> i installed it yesterday
[06:27] <ubuntu> I WNAT JAVA@
[06:27] <soulrider> well, i dont think using torrents while running it as live sia  very good idea
[06:28] <soulrider> i posted hte damn link above!
[06:28] <ubuntu> torrents are S---L---O---W--
[06:28] <soulrider> [13:24]  <soulrider> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29
[06:28] <ubuntu> ARES IS WICKED
[06:28] <soulrider> torrents are not slow
[06:28] <ubuntu> ares
[06:28] <ubuntu> ares is cool
[06:28] <soulrider> does somebody have a gun? im gonna shoot myslef
[06:28] <ubuntu> faster than anything
[06:28] <soulrider> myself
[06:28] <ubuntu> not a gun, but an AK-47
[06:29] <ubuntu> i got a GEFORCE
[06:30] <yogi> Anyone out there familiar w/the fetchmail?  It doesn't give an error in daemon mode, nor does it ever check for mail.
[06:30] <yogi> Commandline: fetchmail --flush -f .fetchmailrc -d 420
[06:30] <yogi> Manually executed it works flawlessly
[06:30] <ubuntu> i dont know how to use KUBUNTU :(
[06:31] <ubuntu> ANYONE? CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO USE LINUX?????????(KUBUNTU)
[06:31] <Riddell> xst: dapper or edgy?
[06:31] <Riddell> ubuntu: don't shout and ask specific questions
[06:31] <ubuntu> TELL ME!!
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Stop shouting
[06:32] <ubuntu> I DONT KNWO HOW TO USER
[06:32] <yogi> ubuntu:Learning curve is steep.  Read the manual. ;-)  Then ask quesitons.
[06:32] <ubuntu> USE
[06:32] <andred> Riddell: it's a new problem. not the one that was fixed with 0.12.1
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu, what?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Stop typing in all caps
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> what is there to know?
[06:32] <ubuntu> WHERES THE MANUAL?
[06:32] <aseigo> (or her)
[06:32] <ubuntu> DID IT COME WITH IT?
[06:32] <ubuntu> OH SHIT\
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu, stop being annoying
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> stop using caps
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you want to do?
[06:33] <ubuntu> USE JAVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:33] <ubuntu> FOR LINUX
[06:33] <soulrider> I POSTED THE FUCKING LINK TWICE
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> as in...
[06:33] <ubuntu> WITCH I
[06:33] <ubuntu> DONT\
[06:33] <DaSkreech> PLease Mute him
[06:33] <ubuntu> KNOW
[06:33] <ubuntu> HOW
[06:33] <ubuntu> TO
[06:33] <ubuntu> USE
[06:33] <soulrider> THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Riddell, thanks
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> I don't know how to give channel op to myself or I would have done it
[06:34] <Riddell> shame though, one less kubuntu user
[06:34] <ubuntu> IM BAK
[06:34] <Riddell> or maybe not
[06:35] <ubuntu> AW CVRAP
[06:35] <Riddell> ubuntu: don't shout or I'll ban you
[06:35] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: For the last time turn off caps
[06:35] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: Please remove the caps lock.  It makes it seem like you're shouting
[06:35] <ubuntu> ok
[06:35] <ubuntu> are you the maker of this thing?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Thank you
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29
[06:35] <fritsch> Riddell: did you "patch out" the /etc/kderc lookin?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> No but please be paitent when you ask a question
[06:36] <Riddell> fritsch: nope
[06:36] <fritsch> Riddell: :-) don`t have any idea anymore
[06:36] <ubuntu> thx
[06:36] <ubuntu> ill change my nick
[06:36] <Riddell> fritsch: me neither :(
[06:36] <fritsch> Riddell: can I hardcode it for testing in say /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> That would help as well
[06:37] <ubuntu> hmmm...
[06:38] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Try /nick your_new_nick
[06:39] <ubuntu> ok
[06:39] <chr> hi..after installing kubuntu grub wont load so to have it loaded i have the cd in and choose boot from first hard disk..how can i fix...
[06:39] <hussam> Riddell: kmail from kde 3.5.4 on edgy isn't packaged yet, correct?
[06:39] <enemyofall> ill tell you
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !grub
[06:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:39] <enemyofall> its me, ubuntu
[06:39] <arend> hallo
[06:40] <enemyofall> my name is enemy of all!
[06:40] <arend> Ik kom uit groningen
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> chr, check out those links
[06:40] <arend> spreek hier iemand dutch
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> enemyofall, did that page help?
[06:41] <chr> thank..i will check..
[06:41] <Riddell> hussam: no
[06:41] <enemyofall> no
[06:41] <enemyofall> im typing something
[06:41] <enemyofall> a method to install
[06:41] <rideick> alguem a fala portugues?
[06:41] <hussam> Riddell: ok thanks, I just wanted to confirm the mirror I use is up to date.
[06:42] <Hawkwind> !portuguese
[06:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about portuguese - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:42] <Hawkwind> !pl
[06:42] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:42] <enemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)
[06:42] <abattoir> !pt
[06:42] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> enemyofall: You should have a swap
[06:43] <abattoir> Hawkwind: pl is polish :P
[06:43] <enemyofall> i have lots of memory
[06:43] <MilhousePunkRock> re everyone
[06:43] <enemyofall> and everything i have in my comp is great and auesome
[06:43] <enemyofall> when i tried swap it never worked
[06:43] <abattoir> DaSkreech: ubuntu is going to be called twonke? :S
[06:43] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[06:44] <abattoir> *twonkle
[06:44] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Polish, Portuguese, all the same to me since I do good enough to read/write my own native language of English :P
[06:44] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hehe
[06:44] <DaSkreech> So it seems
[06:44] <DaSkreech> enemyofall: Do you have a question?
[06:44] <enemyofall> umm....no
[06:45] <hussam> Riddell: is there perhaps an rss feed or something similar for the edgy upgrades?
[06:45] <abattoir> DaSkreech: really? you have a link you can give me?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> Twonkle ?
[06:45] <enemyofall> hawkwind:twonkle
[06:45] <soulrider> !edgy
[06:45] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:46] <enemyofall> version 6.10 lts for your pc
[06:46] <enemyofall> thats what it says on the box
[06:46] <soulrider> !flash
[06:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <enemyofall> nick/ares
[06:46] <enemyofall> oops
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> !schedual
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about schedual - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:46] <enemyofall> enomyofall
[06:46] <DaSkreech> abattoir: http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> !schedule
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:47] <LimburgOnLine> hallo
[06:47] <abattoir> DaSkreech: the link seems suspicious :P
[06:47] <enemyofall> ewww\
[06:47] <enemyofall> barbie linux
[06:48] <enemyofall> enemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)
[06:48] <enemyofall> thats right
[06:48] <enemyofall> ill sya it again
[06:48] <enemyofall> enemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)
[06:48] <LimburgOnLine> Somebody speak dutch
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !spam
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about spam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !nl
[06:48] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !flood
[06:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:49] <ares> enemyofall> ok first when you install, at the partiton thing got to the manual and click the delete and start a fresh one then the other screen comes then type in "/" no /boot or anything even if it says that it will be in unexpected beahavior if theres no swap or nothing still keep on going and the rest the setup will do by itself :)
[06:49] <abattoir> DaSkreech: i remember BarbieOS from an April's day hoax....
[06:49] <ares> my name is ares now!
[06:50] <abattoir> DaSkreech: but i see nothing relating to twonkle....
[06:50] <Hawkwind> I missed the twonkle relationship in that
[06:50] <LimburgOnLine> wie wil me op weg helpen
[06:50] <abattoir> !de
[06:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:51] <abattoir> !nl
[06:51] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:51] <abattoir> LimburgOnLine: ^^^^^
[06:51] <Alatriste> HI
[06:51] <Alatriste> sorry for mi bad english
[06:51] <Alatriste> coudl somebody help with bluetooh?
[06:51] <Alatriste> i use SOAX client from KDE but it gives me problmes witth my noki
[06:51] <Alatriste> i
[06:51] <Alatriste> with my Nokia6230I
[06:52] <Alatriste> it's very slow and half times gives me error on sending
[06:52] <Alatriste> is ther some alternative?
[06:52] <abattoir> Alatriste: you want to transfer files *to* your phone?
[06:53] <Alatriste> abattoir: , yes
[06:53] <abattoir> Alatriste: did you use the service menu in konqueror? Rt.click on a file->Actions->Send via bluetooth
[06:53] <abattoir> ??
[06:56] <Alatriste> abattoir: , NO I din't know about it
[06:56] <abattoir> Alatriste: so it works now?
[06:57] <Alatriste> abattoir: , it's starting but it uses soax client too
[06:57] <Alatriste> and it gave me error sending varios files at same time
[06:58] <Alatriste> also it's mucho more slow than in windows, so i asked about an alternative
[06:58] <MilhousePunkRock> !bluetooth
[06:58] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe that might help you, Alatriste?
[06:59] <Alatriste> MilhousePunkRock: , ok i'll try tha page, i'll see if i have some bad configured
[06:59] <soulrider> !css2
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about css2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:00] <soulrider> uhm guys, is there an app for linux kind of like AnyDVD fro windows ?
[07:00] <soulrider> !DeCSS
[07:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about DeCSS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:00] <Alatriste> specially for speed
[07:00] <Alatriste> it takes more than five minutes for only a song !!!!!!!!!!!
[07:07] <jordan> how to get faster start kubuntu ?
[07:09] <Alatriste> abattoir: , and there isnt'a way for sending all files in once instead having to confirm an save files one by one in cellular?
[07:10] <abattoir> Alatriste: once the Bluetooth transfer window opens up, drag files from top to bottom... and then send...
[07:10] <abattoir> Alatriste: that is from the file-selector window in the top, to the one in the bottom
[07:12] <jordan> how to get faster start kubuntu ?
[07:12] <fritsch> Riddell: please look in /etc/qt3/qtrc
[07:12] <fritsch> Riddell: this cannot be correct, or?
[07:13] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: I got a nice link for you on that, hold on...
[07:13] <Riddell> fritsch: looks correct to me
[07:13] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[07:13] <Alatriste> abattoir: , that yes but i mean the celular asks confirmation and how to save file one by one
[07:13] <abattoir> Alatriste: aah, that's upto your cell, i guess...
[07:13] <fritsch> Riddell: there is written kdeAddedLibraryPaths=/root.kde/lib/kde3/plugins ...
[07:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Make sure you read everything carefully though, jordan...
[07:14] <abattoir> Alatriste: which phone?
[07:14] <fritsch> Riddell: in an etc etnry ...
[07:14] <Alatriste> abattoir: , nokia 6230i
[07:14] <abattoir> Alatriste: hmmm, that's a series40?
[07:14] <Riddell> fritsch: should be  kdeAddedLibraryPaths=/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/
[07:14] <jorge___> hola
[07:14] <fritsch> Riddell: yes!#
[07:14] <fritsch> Riddell: i compared with "dapper 353"
[07:14] <fritsch> Riddell: and changed
[07:15] <abattoir> Alatriste: anyways there should be an option in the Bluetooth settings for the phone, to accept connections automatically
[07:15] <abattoir> Alatriste: after you put that you dont have to say 'yes' to connect your phone everytime
[07:15] <fritsch> Riddell: retrying ... again the old behaviour :-(
[07:16] <fritsch> Riddell: is this normal? if I start kdm then this file is changed?
[07:17] <cpk2> my wireless card always seems to break itself and not work after a couple hours... using ndiswrapper
[07:19] <DaSkreech> jordan: I guess you can tweak your setup
[07:19] <bkudria> when i start xgl, it just gives me the gray checkered screen with an X cursor, and never starts....what should i do?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> bkudria: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:20] <bkudria> DaSkreech: ok, thanks!
[07:21] <Riddell> fritsch: yes, that's normal
[07:21] <jordan>  MilhousePunkRock oki you do everythings on this page ?
[07:21] <fritsch> Riddell: okay, mmh i do not have a single idea anymore
[07:21] <dmhouse> Is it possible to use Ipod Nanos with Kubuntu? A wiki.ubuntu.com search didn't reveal much.
[07:21] <trappist> dmhouse: yeah, use it with amaroK
[07:21] <Riddell> dmhouse: fat formatted ones should be fine
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: I turned off all the services that I don't need, and I did notice a difference...
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: Note that it's only for the time before KDE starts though...
[07:22] <dmhouse> trappist: amaroK isn't mounting it though.
[07:23] <jordan> MilhousePunkRock i know
[07:23] <dmhouse> It may need more battery, perhaps I should leave it to charge for a bit.
[07:24] <jordan> MilhousePunkRock Can I creat backup for this file ?
[07:25] <dmhouse> Should amaroK automagically mount the iPod or do I need to do that myself? If the latter, how?
[07:25] <ddafasd> hi
[07:25] <w00t> hi
[07:26] <supernix>  hiya all
[07:26] <supernix> Anyone here versed in pppd?
[07:26] <cpk2> !pppd
[07:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about pppd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:26] <cpk2> !ppoe
[07:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about ppoe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:27] <uniq> supernix: what is your problem?
[07:27] <w00t> ih
[07:27] <supernix> well I am trying to help my fiancee get her PC online using dialup
[07:28] <supernix> I got a modem that said it was supported by kernel 2.4 it is however a PCI
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: Well, you should take a pen and a piece of paper, and write down the initial status, so you can turn it back just in case
[07:28] <uniq> did you try 'sudo pppconfig' ?
[07:28] <supernix> the thing dials up but I always get error 1 or 2 or 16 here lately it exits signal 16
[07:28] <supernix> nah I never tried that command just used the kppd to configure it
[07:29] <w00t> is it possible fto run linux on a 23 mhz pc:P
[07:29] <w00t> ??
[07:29] <cpk2> i would imagine yes
[07:29] <cpk2> it would be incredibly bare
[07:29] <trappist> it was developed on a 386
[07:30] <jordan> MilhousePunkRock How turn it in recover mode ?
[07:30] <supernix> uniq:  is that how your supposed to configure the connection by using pppconfig ?
[07:31] <uniq> supernix: you can use kppp too.. but i tend to use pppconfig as it is what i'm used to from the old days.
[07:31] <w00t> so it is possible?
[07:32] <uniq> supernix: error 2 is when you give pppd two options that are mutually exclusive.
[07:32] <supernix> when I looked at the logs it would say something like server failed to authenticate  and could not find a secret
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: By default, you hit Esc when at the very beginning of the boot process
[07:32] <uniq> supernix: i suggest giving 'sudo pppconfig' in konsole a try.
[07:33] <supernix> Ok great do you think it could have anything to do with the modem ?
[07:33] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan: That gives you the GRUB menu, and there should be a recovery option for every kernel you have installed... So selecting the 2nd entry gives you your default kernel in recovery mode
[07:33] <Jonathann> going to Adept howto, I get "this page does not exist yet"
[07:33] <soulrider> guys, what can i use to see my network usage ?
[07:34] <soulrider> im installing something with adept, but i think its downlaoding at a really low speed
[07:34] <uniq> supernix: if pppconfig fails you can start thinking of that.
[07:34] <vranikx> hello all
[07:35] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, personally I prefer synaptic over adept
[07:35] <supernix> I did hear most people suggest only using a serial modem but I tried to stick to a PCI
[07:36] <supernix> I just was not sure if it was operator error or the modem since on the one hand it was dialing and such
[07:36] <uniq> soulrider: if you want something graphical you can try the kicker applet 'knetload' (package has the same name). For console, i suggest using 'iptraf' or 'nload' both are package names.
[07:37] <soulrider> thanks!
[07:37] <vranikx> hello all, is anybody here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv
[07:37] <soulrider> i was thinking of somethign graphical yes, like DU meter for windows
[07:37] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: I think I would too, but knowing how to do things with it might come in handy someday
[07:37] <soulrider> is ti possible to download more of those panels for KDE?
[07:38] <cpk2> soulrider: gkrellm is a pretty cool graphical system monitor
[07:38] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: Oh, I think I can use it.  My problem was that I confused it with "Add/remove programs."  Been using linux for years, but booted into Kubuntu for the first time 5 minutes ago.
[07:38] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, fair enough :-) probable a howto somewhere if you google
[07:38] <soulrider> i just need a network monitor, dunno why, but i cant live without one :P
[07:39] <soulrider> gatekeeper_:  whata  cool name :P
[07:39] <soulrider> sounds really mmorpg :P
[07:39] <cpk2> soulrider: gkrellm does network in/out hdd read/writes cpu usage
[07:39] <Jonathann> Does anyone know about making Nvidia GeForce 7300 work?
[07:39] <soulrider> it hink ill just stick to knetload
[07:39] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[07:39] <Jonathann> It is not working out of the box for me
[07:39] <soulrider> but thanks for the tip!
[07:40] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: No, no, I meant the KDE "Add/remove programs" in the K menu
[07:41] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, looked in there, didn't seem to be much use :-)
[07:41] <cpk2> Jonathann: you install nvidia-glx?
[07:41] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: I have Ubuntu 5.04 in my own Thinkpad, and I was really lost when a friend brought his computer for repairs and I could not find Synaptics in any menu
[07:42] <Jonathann> cpk2: Not yet, will do that immediately if it's that simple
[07:42] <cpk2> Jonathann: after that you need to do nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:42] <cpk2> make sure you back up xorg.conf before all this
[07:43] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: The friend had a fresh 5.10, so that's why there was only the Ubuntu's "Add/remove programs"
[07:43] <Jonathann> cpk2: Thanks for the advice, I will
[07:43] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, would be back to the cli for me :-)
[07:43] <vranikx> hello all, is anybody here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv
[07:43] <robert____> hi all
[07:44] <gatekeeper_> bye MilhousePunkRock :-)
[07:44] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: I think I will break less things in unfamiliar systems if I keep finding out how they are supposed to be done before going straight ahead and just doing it
[07:45] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: Last time I learned that was in a fight with a WLAN PCMCIA card
[07:45] <soulrider> is there a way to kind fo reset the amaroK collection ?
[07:45] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, who won?
[07:46] <Jonathann> But calling Firefox lightweight is something I will never get.  What then is heavyweight? =)
[07:46] <soulrider> opera > firefox :P
[07:46] <cpk2> i have to fight with my wlan pcmcia card everyday
[07:46] <cpk2> it likes to break itself after its been connected for a couple hours
[07:46] <trappist> soulrider: you could blow out your sqlite/mysql database
[07:46] <vranikx> nobody is here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv
[07:46] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, ie6 because it installs viruses for free :-)
[07:47] <soulrider> trappist: how do i do tha ?
[07:47] <soulrider> that*
[07:47] <Jonathann> gatekeeper_: I won, after removing all my previous settings and starting over the way it was supposed to be done
[07:47] <trappist> soulrider: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/collection.db /somewhere/else
[07:48] <trappist> or just delete it
[07:48] <trappist> exit
[07:48] <soulrider> but where si it located?
[07:48] <trappist> oops
[07:48] <trappist> I just gave you the full path
[07:48] <soulrider> and i think im using sqlite
[07:48] <gatekeeper_> Jonathann, I often consult ubuntu wiki before doing something, saved me a load of agro
[07:48] <trappist> yeah if you don't know, you're using sqlite.  and that's the path to the database.
[07:49] <soulrider> ok, thanks
[07:49] <evil_cow> doesanyone has a problem with k3b and speed in dvd write
[07:49] <evil_cow> ?
[07:49] <supernix> If you can get the modem to query doesn't that mean that it is working and the drivers are loaded ?
[07:50] <uniq> supernix: i would think so, yes.
[07:50] <uniq> supernix: if it dials it should work.. as far as i can understand.
[07:50] <supernix> hmmm then this has to be some sort of configuration error
[07:51] <trappist> supernix: if that was you with the can't find secret thing, it sounds like it's half-configured to do a vpn like pptp
[07:51] <soulrider> trappist:  i noticed that the .kde folder is kind of hidden, how can i configure konqueror to show me hidden folders?
[07:51] <supernix> I read in one file that it said to uncomment noauth and after I did that it stopped giving error 1 or 2 but then it was doing signal 16
[07:51] <cpk2> soulrider: view > show hidden files
[07:52] <soulrider> oh, lol
[07:52] <trappist> soulrider: all files/directories that start with . are hidden - I dunno off the top of my head how to make konqueror do that, but it's probably not too hard
[07:52] <supernix> trappist: it was me
[07:52] <supernix> hmm
[07:52] <vranikx> is anybody here who have edgy and xgl compiz? i have problem when i want to watch TV with kdetv :((( nobody here?
[07:52] <supernix> GOD everything is so easy when you have cable compared to this dialup nightmare
[07:52] <trappist> vranikx: try #ubuntu+1
[07:52] <Hawkwind> soulrider: In konqueror, View -> View hidden files
[07:53] <vranikx> aha, thank you trappist
[07:53] <soulrider> yes, thanks!
[07:53] <trappist> soulrider: got it?
[07:53] <soulrider> trappist: i deleted that file, but im afraid thec ollection is still there :(
[07:54] <soulrider> err, how can i use ASCII?
[07:54] <soulrider> i need to use a char i dont have on ym keyboard
[07:54] <DaSkreech> soulrider: in IRC?
[07:54] <soulrider> in konqueror
[07:54] <soulrider> i wanna write the "~" symbol
[07:55] <cpk2> soulrider: american keyboard?
[07:55] <dek_aik> supernix: just my 2 cent, you have to close down eth0 with pppd to work
[07:55] <soulrider> spanish
[07:55] <cpk2> oh, was gonna say tilde should be above tab
[07:55] <cpk2> how did you do it just now? =P
[07:55] <soulrider> copy paste lol
[07:55] <soulrider> \
[07:56] <soulrider> thastw hat i get witht he button above tab
[07:56] <cpk2> you can copy paste into konq
[07:56] <soulrider> yes, but i may not ahve smoene to type it every time
[07:56] <soulrider> and i dont even know what its called :P
[07:56] <soulrider> in win i allways wrote it with alt+126
[07:56] <cpk2> its a tilde
[07:57] <soulrider> friggin spanish keyboard
[07:57] <jordan> How use LINKS in terminal
[07:58] <cpk2> soulrider: you can just use the wiki to copy paste it everytime =P
[07:58] <DaSkreech> jordan: links <url>
[07:58] <supernix> I did do that as well dek_aik I did read somewhere that just having eth0 up could cause issues with the pppd
[07:58] <DaSkreech> jordan: You could also try man links
[07:58] <trappist> soulrider: add a character selector to your panel
[07:58] <trappist> like right-click, add applet to panel etc.
[07:58] <fritsch> Riddell: is this bug the reason for not officially relasing kde 3.5.4?
[07:58] <trappist> install kcharselect if necessary
[07:59] <Riddell> fritsch: no
[07:59] <supernix> I also wondered about the possibility of this being some sort of bug with the pppd
[07:59] <adam__> how do i upgrade dapper to edgy eft ?
[07:59] <fritsch> Riddell: what is it?
[07:59] <supernix> Bad thing is without getting her box online I can't get any updates
[07:59] <kbrooks> On Kubuntu, why doesnt it do copy and paste correctly?
[07:59] <Riddell> fritsch: what's what?
[07:59] <trappist> kbrooks: define 'correctly'
[07:59] <soulrider> k thanks, as soon as im done installing eclipse ill downlaod kcharselect and knetload
[08:00] <fritsch> kbrooks: define correctly
[08:00] <kbrooks> correctly...
[08:00] <fritsch> Riddell: no, on what is the 3.5.4 release still waiting?
[08:00] <fritsch> Riddell: the official one
[08:00] <Riddell> fritsch: you'd have to ask the release manager
[08:00] <soulrider> k, i could fix the collection polem, thanks!!
[08:00] <tsdgeos> good one ;-)
[08:00] <kbrooks> it keeps a old clipboard entry around
[08:00] <tsdgeos> Riddell: are we having an updated hal?
[08:01] <supernix> that sounds like clipper kbrooks
[08:01] <trappist> kbrooks: I always kill the clipboard manager.  gets in my way.
[08:01] <supernix> or is it klipper
[08:01] <Riddell> tsdgeos: is adds the (un)mount scripts in /usr/share/hal/scripts
[08:01] <supernix> I forget
[08:01] <tsdgeos> Riddell: ok
[08:06] <StrudelNinja> is there any way to make my clock on the bottom right be in 12h format?
[08:07] <cpk2> yeah right click on it and go to date/time format
[08:07] <trappist> wish that was the default
[08:07] <StrudelNinja> ok I did that but nothing changed
[08:08] <StrudelNinja> or do I have to restart something
[08:08] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Yawn
[08:08] <cpk2> well it is only 11 am here...
[08:08] <cpk2> dunno about you
[08:10] <wckdkl0wn> i am getting ready to reinstall kubuntu. when i start back up how to i install the optimized kernel for my system
[08:10] <wckdkl0wn> Sysinfo for 'wckdkl0wn-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 2105 MHz (4214 bogomips), , RAM: 751/756MB, 91 proc's, 16.11h up
[08:10] <wckdkl0wn> the one for amd
[08:10] <visik7> am I the only one that don't get icq working anymore with kopete?
[08:11] <soulrider> i suggest you gett he latest version
[08:11] <soulrider> its 0.12 i think
[08:11] <soulrider> i ahd trouble with MSN
[08:11] <soulrider> and it fixed it
[08:11] <andred> visik7: it was fixed in svn 2 hours ago
[08:11] <visik7> where is 0.12 for kubuntu ?
[08:12] <andred> visik7: there no 0.12 with that fix for kubuntu yet
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> wckdkl0wn: Install linux-image-k7 (but make sure you have main restricted after dapper-security if you need any non free modules)
[08:12] <visik7> andred: so no icq for now
[08:12] <wckdkl0wn> h3sp4wn: ty
[08:12] <soulrider> visik7: i went to the kopete website adn got the latest version fot he thing
[08:12] <andred> visik7: you can compile it for yourself :)
[08:12] <soulrider> and im running it right now
[08:12] <soulrider> i got a .deb file
[08:12] <soulrider> so i could install it right away
[08:13] <andred> soulrider: the change seems to not affect all the people (yet)
[08:13] <visik7> andred: I like packages not source that mess up my distro
[08:13] <soulrider> :O
[08:14] <cpk2> source wont mess anything up if you keep it neat
[08:15] <soulrider> i downloaded and installed eclipse, but ic ant find a shortcut anywhere :-/
[08:15] <soulrider> and it installed other stuff too :-/
[08:15] <soulrider> like mozilla
[08:15] <StrudelNinja> say, where can I get a sysinfo script for konversation?
[08:15] <cpk2> try running eclipse from terminal?
[08:15] <visik7> ok now also msn disconnected me and ask for a password...
[08:15] <cpk2> or updatedb and the do a locate
[08:15] <wckdkl0wn> StrudelNinja: just type /sysinfo
[08:15] <cpk2> then*
[08:15] <StrudelNinja> oh
[08:15] <StrudelNinja> Sysinfo for 'josh-linux': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.00GHz at 3015 MHz (6033 bogomips), , RAM: 1977/2027MB, 121 proc's, 1.14d up
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> StrudelNinja: infobash is about the best I think (Just search google for it put it in /usr/local/bin)
[08:15] <StrudelNinja> hey cool
[08:16] <soulrider> i wrote eclipse in the console adn it sais it doesnt exist
[08:16] <cpk2> gaim doesnt use /sysinfo =\
[08:16] <soulrider> cpk2: how can i use that update thingy ?
[08:16] <cpk2> just sudo updatedb
[08:17] <cpk2> it might take a while
[08:17] <soulrider> i need to sue sudo right ?
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: Or just use whereis
[08:17] <cpk2> yup
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: But that doesn't search everywhere
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Oh Use sudo
[08:18] <soulrider> the whereis command gave me a result :)
[08:18] <rsosborn> Hello all
[08:18] <DaSkreech> man that had me confused for a while
[08:18] <rsosborn> Need a bit of help
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !ask
[08:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !help
[08:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:18] <cpk2> !love
[08:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about love - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:18] <cpk2> guess you arent all knowing =)
[08:18] <soulrider> lol
[08:19] <rsosborn> I got a ftp server with apache which I use to ftp my files from windows to linux. I created a user for ftp but the user has access to all files. How to restrict the ftp user to its home directory?
[08:19] <soulrider> cpk2: i used that updatedb command adn everything
[08:19] <Jonathann> Using nvidia now, but glxgears does not give me any FPS readings
[08:19] <soulrider> but i still type eclipse and geta n error
[08:20] <cpk2> soulrider: updatedb is so you can use locate
[08:20] <cpk2> ie locate eclipse
[08:20] <osoh> rsosborn: ftp with apache?
[08:20] <soulrider> oh
[08:20] <soulrider> uhm i gto like 10 thousand results
[08:20] <rsosborn> osoh: Ya I'm have proftp and LAMP server
[08:20] <osoh> rsosborn: ok, that's better ;)
[08:21] <cpk2> yeah locate usually gives you more =P
[08:21] <DaSkreech> rsosborn: All You do is use it to FPT files across the local network?
[08:21] <soulrider> my problem si, how do i run the dman thing? :P
[08:21] <rsosborn> right to my apache server because I design my html in windows
[08:21] <rsosborn> I like Dreamweaver to much to give it up
[08:21] <cpk2> you try man eclipse?
[08:22] <rsosborn> I don't
[08:22] <soulrider> no maual entry for eclipse
[08:22] <rsosborn> I just like dreamweaver enviorment
[08:22] <bluesceada> rsosborn: eww but doesnt it create invalid code?
[08:22] <rsosborn> sometimes
[08:22] <rsosborn> but isn't that bad
[08:22] <cpk2> but you installed it?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> rsosborn: You could just use sftp with openssh then that would keep things in check for you
[08:22] <bluesceada> and ugly bloated code :S
[08:22] <soulrider> yes
[08:22] <soulrider> i used adept to isnatll evrything
[08:22] <rsosborn> I have ftp set up and works fine
[08:22] <cpk2> might want to look through the locate results =P
[08:22] <DaSkreech> You could run Dreamweaver under WINE:)
[08:22] <soulrider> it even isnatleld mozilla browser automatically
[08:22] <rsosborn> but what I want to do is restrict that ftp user only to /var/www
[08:22] <rsosborn> and no other files
[08:22] <ricardo_> hi...does anybody know how to change login screen...(as with splash screen)?
[08:22] <rsosborn> how do I that
[08:22] <soulrider> but how do i know wats hte main file to execute?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> I digress though
[08:23] <soulrider> since there are no exes here :P
[08:23] <cpk2> how big is the locate output?
[08:23] <Jonathann> What is the hotkey for switching workspaces in KDE?
[08:23] <soulrider> BIG
[08:23] <rsosborn> DaSkreech: Ya, I could run Dreamweaver through wine but my server is a slow machine needs upgrades
[08:23] <soulrider> probably 50 lines at least
[08:23] <cpk2> thats not bad
[08:23] <trappist> Jonathann: ctrl-f1/f2/etc.
[08:23] <cpk2> pastebin it
[08:23] <Jonathann> In Gnome one can do Ctrl+Alt+Larrow or Ctrl+Alt+Rarrow
[08:24] <cpk2> i will see if anything looks promising
[08:24] <Jonathann> trappist: Any shortcut for next or previous?
[08:24] <trappist> Jonathann: yeah, but I don't use em so i don't remember what they are
[08:24] <soulrider> uhm, it hink tis more liek 200 lines :P
[08:24] <cpk2> oh
[08:25] <cpk2> well look and see if there are any results in etc
[08:25] <rsosborn> So does anyone know how to restrict a ftp user to their home directory?
[08:25] <soulrider> some in cache
[08:25] <soulrider> some in lib
[08:25] <soulrider> most in share
[08:25] <MarsRouter> hi
[08:25] <DaSkreech> rsosborn: Umm  I forget the name right now but there is a file you can drop in the folders to exclude users from entering it
[08:25] <MarsRouter> how ca i play MP3s ??
[08:26] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > MarsRouter
[08:26] <rsosborn> hmmm
[08:26] <cpk2> you might want to do a sudo apt-get install eclipse to double check it installed
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> rsosborn: It is pretty trivial to chroot a user if you are using proftpd (probably with others but I only know the exact way to do it with proftpd)
[08:26] <osoh> rsosborn: I've not used proftpd for a long time :P but I think that there's (or there was) a directive called DocumentRoot
[08:26] <cpk2> or maybe dpkg-reconfigure eclipse
[08:26] <cpk2> as sudo
[08:26] <soulrider> ill try second one first :P
[08:26] <soulrider> fucker, sais its not sinatlled :P
[08:26] <rsosborn> any more details because I'm new to this
[08:27] <DaSkreech> !language
[08:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:27] <soulrider> sorry =D
[08:28] <DaSkreech> rsosborn: Sorry I don't recall the name of the file right now
[08:28] <rsosborn> h3swn: I'm using proftp
[08:28] <soulrider> eclipse is downloading... again
[08:28] <soulrider> i g2g now, ill be bak later, thanks for the help!
[08:28] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: sup!?
[08:29] <osoh> rsosborn: try "DocumentRoot ~"
[08:29] <rsosborn> thats okay
[08:29] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Me barely
[08:29] <DaSkreech> man I so want to sleep
[08:29] <rsosborn> where do I configure this out
[08:29] <rsosborn> I have webmin install
[08:29] <rsosborn> sorry I'm new to this
[08:29] <rsosborn> I won't lie, straight noob here
[08:29] <rsosborn> hehehe
[08:29] <rsosborn> but I'm coming along
[08:29] <osoh> ah, no idea... I used to change the "/etc/proftpd.conf" (or something like that)
[08:30] <osoh> I've never used webmin :P
[08:30] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: lol me too but I am going to work in 10 mins
[08:30] <rsosborn> I saw something like that
[08:30] <Jonathann> I added universe and multiverse, but can't see wine anywhere in adept
[08:30] <rsosborn> sudo gedit /etc/proftpd.conf
[08:30] <rsosborn> but said it was bad command
[08:30] <DaSkreech> I'm at work that makes it wrose!
[08:30] <draik> anybody here know what app/s to use for authoring a dvd from a few video clips?
[08:30] <DaSkreech> MarsRouter: Getting along?
[08:31] <osoh> kubuntu?
[08:31] <rsosborn> yes
[08:31] <osoh> try sudo kedit /etc/proftpd.conf
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> DefaultRoot ~ !users
[08:31] <rsosborn> ahh
[08:31] <osoh> or sudo kate /etc/proftpd.conf
[08:31] <lnxkde> DaSkreech:   :p
[08:31] <draik> !dvd
[08:31] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> (then any user not in the users group will be chrooted to there home directory)
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Man this office needs a Bed right --------> there
[08:32] <StrudelNinja> is the unrar in the repos search I did the plugin for ark?
[08:32] <lnxkde> !DaSkreech
[08:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about DaSkreech - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:32] <lnxkde> lol
[08:32] <deuce_> if my secondary partition is formated to reiserfs - is it possible to make it fat32 without having to lose all the info on the partition?
[08:32] <karl> hi, i'm having problems with the installation of my epson rx620 printer
[08:32] <DaSkreech> StrudelNinja: Should be
[08:32] <ricardo_> how can we check for orphaned modules?
[08:33] <w00t> lol i forgot the password of my own router:P
[08:33] <deuce_> w00t - do a hard refresh of the router and it will reset the pass
[08:33] <karl> it came with the followinf message...
[08:33] <karl> Error message;
[08:33] <karl> Unable to load the requested driver:
[08:33] <karl> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX620,gutenprint] .
[08:33] <karl> Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions
[08:33] <karl> to perform that operation.
[08:34] <slow-motion> re
[08:34] <StrudelNinja> !ark
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about ark - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:34] <w00t> lol
[08:35] <StrudelNinja> isn't there a site like, linuxprinters.org or something
[08:35] <w00t> lol
[08:35] <StrudelNinja> http://linuxprinting.org/
[08:35] <karl> yes there is but haven't had any luck
[08:36] <deuce_> karl - i personally could never get my printer to work
[08:36] <karl> I've checked the foomatic packages... => conflict: foomatic-bin < 2.9 => conflict: foomatic-db < 2.9 => replaces: foomatic-bin < 2.9
[08:37] <StrudelNinja> so you checked http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX620 ?
[08:37] <Jonathann> Do all combinations of (deb / deb-src), (dapper / dapper-backports / dapper-security / dapper-updates) and (main / restricted / universe / multiverse) exist?
[08:38] <karl> yes i have been on that page ... epson...
[08:38] <rsosborn> Just as an update, I got it! It was change in proftpd.conf to "Defaultroot ~" and since I had webmin install I was able to make the changes there since I could get kedit or kate command to work
[08:38] <Jonathann> Or am I subscribing to them all if I just enable everything in the default sources.list?
[08:38] <rsosborn> since I couldn't get kedit or kate to work I meant
[08:38] <Jonathann> I still can't see wine anywhere
[08:39] <karl> no backports is not enabled
[08:39] <rsosborn> No, one last mystery for me and I'm down. How to I change the root directory of apache2 web server. So that instead of the defualt folder being /var/www I can change it to direct to someting like /var/www/public_html
[08:39] <Jonathann> Oh, wait, does it have something to do with running a x86-64 system?
[08:39] <rsosborn> I meant "now, one last mystery for me and I'm done."
[08:39] <rsosborn> sorry
[08:40] <trappist> Jonathann: did you install a 32bit or 64bit system?
[08:40] <Jonathann> trappist: From a 64bit CD.  It didn't ask me about anything.
[08:40] <trappist> Jonathann: then you need a 32bit chroot to run wine
[08:40] <jhak88> anyone: How do I use KBFX and how to change images and stuff???
[08:40] <bl3ssing> is there any emule for linux OS?
[08:40] <Jonathann> trappist: Is there a FAQ or a wiki page to guide me?
[08:41] <bluesceada> bl3ssing: wth is linux os ? ;-)
[08:41] <bluesceada> xmule or amule
[08:42] <bl3ssing> I'd love to have a personal partition so that I could save my files on it. In case of my OS reinstalling, I'd love my partition not to be touched by anything. Is there any possibility? If so ... HOWWWWWWWWW? :D Thank you.
[08:42] <bl3ssing> bluesceada, thank you. I'm on my way to xmule/amule (depending which'll be the first to be found ... :D)
[08:42] <Ace2007> Oh dear god NO!!! does kubuntu delete /tmp by itself ?!?!?!?!?
[08:43] <trappist> Jonathann: there used to be, but I can't find it now.  you might google for a debian howto on setting up a 32bit chroot.
[08:43] <bl3ssing> how can I find this xmule/amule? :(
[08:43] <sergiusens> deleting tmp is standard debian
[08:43] <bl3ssing> I tried with adept, but not working (read only mode).
[08:43] <DaSkreech> Ace2007: On Reboot I think
[08:44] <Jonathann> trappist: Ok, I'll try (but I'll go to sleep soon if I'm unsuccessful)
[08:44] <rsosborn> Does anyone know how to change the root file for apache webserver so it looks to something like "/var/www/public_html" instead of default "/var/www"
[08:45] <trappist> Jonathann: it takes some work, but it's the only way (well not the ONLY way) to get things like flash, java plugin, acrobat reader, wine, and a lot of other things.
[08:45] <Ace2007> DaSkreech: You know how long it took me to transcode those xvid files ?!?!?!?! Its just not fair :(
[08:46] <DaSkreech> Ace2007: and you put them in /tmp instead of ~/temp?
[08:46] <bl3ssing> trappist, if you're having wine on board while flying, ... you'll find the earth very fast ... just like that. :D
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> Jonathann: well I am on my linux box, so I might be able to answer a question on add / remove programs, actually seems fairly straight forward
[08:46] <bl3ssing> so ... Jonathann  I recommend you not to touch the win (only at the serpant)
[08:46] <bl3ssing> :)
[08:46] <deuce_> how do i format my reiserfs partition to fat32?
[08:47] <Ace2007> I put i in /tmp, only space i had on my hard disks, the home partition doesn't have the space :(
[08:48] <kilrae> grrr, empty ext3 drive still has 2.5GB used
[08:48] <Ace2007> How do i create a new dir in / which anyone can write to like /myspace ?
[08:48] <jhak88> anyone: How do I use KBFX and how to change images and stuff???
[08:48] <kilrae> chmod 777 /myspace
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Ace2007: Create it and give it the same permission as /tmp
[08:48] <Jonathann> trappist: I found a HowTo in the forums, but it uses the Sidenet script, and I'd rather do without
[08:49] <deuce_> Ace2007: in konsole - crdir myspace && chmod 777 myspace
[08:49] <wckdkl0wn> ok how do i install the optimized kernel again for amd?
[08:49] <notech> rsosborn: change the DocumentRoot in the config
[08:49] <Jonathann> trappist: That's because Sidenet does much complicated things, and if one of those fails, there is no way to quickly learn what has it done exactly
[08:49] <Ace2007> hey can xfs recover files that have been deleted, there is lots of space on the disk disk and i don't think its been over written?
[08:49] <wckdkl0wn> and remove the old
[08:49] <trappist> Jonathann: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/356
[08:50] <Ace2007> whats the difference between mkdir and crdir?
[08:50] <trappist> Ace2007: it might not be impossible, but if it can be done you'll probably spend days on it
[08:50] <deuce_> Ace2007: it's mkdir
[08:50] <Jonathann> trappist: This is what I found: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[08:50] <deuce_> Ace2007: i'm retarded and typing too fast while looking at an open console
[08:50] <soulrider> hey evryone, im back
[08:50] <kilrae> adduser myspace && mkdir /myspace && chown myspace /myspace && echo 'To access /myspace first su to the myspace user' >> /etc/motd
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Ace2007: What? where did you get a crdir from?
[08:51] <Ace2007> DaSkreech: doesn't matter
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Ok If you say so
[08:52] <trappist> kilrae: maybe even adduser --home /myspace myspace
[08:52] <rsosborn> notech: can I get a little more detail
[08:52] <kilrae> ah
[08:52] <rsosborn> I'm still a noob but coming along
[08:52] <Ace2007> trappist: What does that do?
[08:52] <kilrae> that saves two steps, good
[08:53] <Ace2007> oh wait i get it
[08:53] <d-d4x> E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)
[08:53] <d-d4x> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:53] <d-d4x> ?
[08:53] <soulrider> how can i make kubuntu run an app when i turn my pc on ?
[08:53] <soulrider> or toe xecute a script when i log in that will runc ommands
[08:53] <Ace2007> put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:54] <soulrider> the script?
[08:54] <soulrider> or a shortcut tot he app ?
[08:54] <gekko`> just a link
[08:54] <soulrider> k, thanks!
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> d-d4x: you trying to install something?
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ahh
[08:54] <deuce_> is it true is a tar is over 2 gigs it becomes unstable and at risk of corruption?
[08:55] <Ace2007> soulrider: or you can use this to manager everything from kcontrol: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038 i like the GUI
[08:55] <soulrider> thanks!
[08:57] <notech> rsosborn: not really, i'm not on Ubuntu today. find the apache config and look for that line in it.
[08:57] <trappist> deuce_: you run the risk of it getting cut off at the 2gb mark if it's on a filesystem that can't handle >2GB files or if your version of tar can't handle 'large files'
[08:57] <deuce_> it's on reiserfs
[08:57] <wckdkl0wn> i just did sudo apt-get install linux-k7  but how do i get rid of the old once it is done?
[08:57] <deuce_> and the newest version of tar
[08:57] <trappist> reiserfs can handle insanely large files
[08:57] <deuce_> okay, cool
[08:57] <trappist> and I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure ubuntu's tar can handle it too
[08:57] <cpk2> ext3 can also handle huge files...
[08:57] <trappist> you'll find out if it doesn't :)
[08:57] <deuce_> i am backing up a my 68 gigs of crap on a drive so i can format it to fat32
[08:58] <soulrider> cpk2: i got eclipse upa dn running, thanks SO much!!!!!
[08:58] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: It's best to leave atleast 2 kernels installed at all times. That way if something breaks on one, you can boot to the other possibly
[08:58] <trappist> deuce_: you might have a hard time getting that tarball onto a fat32 filesystem
[08:58] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[08:58] <deuce_> so i threw it all in one tar and then remembered back to olden unix days when a 2 gig tar would corrupt and die
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> deuce_, how is this set up?
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> as in how are you backing it up?
[08:58] <deuce_> tar -cvf /home/deuce/Disk2.tar *
[08:59] <soulrider> whats heap size ?
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> nolte, i mean the set up
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> USB, master/slave
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm guessing a mounted drive
[08:59] <deuce_> then tar -xvf /home/deuce/Disk2.tar /media/hda2
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, if its Fat32, you can just drag and drog
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> drop
[09:00] <soulrider> Ace2007: i installed it, btu i dont see any shortcuts
[09:01] <soulrider> lol, im sucha  n00b :P
[09:01] <RogueX> identify c0mputer
[09:01] <bl3ssing> I can't find xmule in Adept. What can I do?
[09:01] <deuce_> bl3ssing: amule
[09:01] <deuce_> bl3ssing: search for amule
[09:02] <cpk2> !xmule
[09:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:02] <bl3ssing> tried deuce_ , nothing. :(
[09:02] <cpk2> !amule
[09:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:02] <cpk2> !repos
[09:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:02] <cpk2> !repos amule
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, type kcontrol in the Kmenu
[09:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about repos amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:02] <DaSkreech> !info amule
[09:02] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> under run command
[09:02] <cpk2> there we go
[09:02] <DaSkreech> !info xmule
[09:02] <ubotu> xmule: eMule client for the edonkey2000 network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0b-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 891 kB, installed size 2800 kB
[09:02] <deuce_> bl3ssing: if you have an up to date system there in an amule - do a search for 'p2p' in adept
[09:02] <deuce_> bl3ssing: do you have your universe enabled?
[09:03] <soulrider> not there
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> right click on your desktop >> run command >>kcontrol
[09:05] <soulrider> yay, its on!
[09:05] <soulrider> uhm no, what do i do now? :P
[09:05] <wckdkl0wn> what repository do i have to add if i want to install mplayer?
[09:05] <deuce_> !mplayer
[09:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[09:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:07] <soulrider> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, not a problem
[09:08] <karl> i tried to install the printer via http://localhost:631/ but it is asking for a account and pasword... i tried with my account but it doesn't work...
[09:11] <KgB_> hello
[09:11] <eitch0000_> anybody tell me how to get quicktime movies working in firefox?
[09:11] <KgB_> my apt-get dont find many things
[09:11] <bl3ssing> couldn't find the source list ... what happend? I'm trying to full upgrade the adept, and ... I can't do anything. :(
[09:11] <mt> 
[09:11] <KgB_> need i change anything?
[09:11] <KgB_> or its normal?
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> KgB_, check this out
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> !repos
[09:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:11] <KgB_> oh
[09:11] <KgB_> thx :D
[09:11] <RogueX> eitch0000_: Mplayer will play them in firefox I thinkk
[09:12] <eitch0000_> RogueX: and how do I tell firefox to use mplayer?
[09:12] <wckdkl0wn> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[09:12] <wckdkl0wn> ??
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> RogueX, there is a package
[09:13] <Hawkwind> !info mplayer
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> check adept
[09:13] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[09:13] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: It's in multiverse, so you have to enable that repo
[09:13] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: enable multiverse repo
[09:13] <soulrider> guys, can someone explain to em why linux will use so much of my RAM?
[09:13] <wckdkl0wn> how?
[09:13] <soulrider> its using over 700mb
[09:13] <soulrider> and i gto 768 :-/
[09:13] <deuce_> bl3ssing: in adept go to the top left and click on 'Adept' and go down to 'Manage Repos'
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, what are you running
[09:14] <soulrider> not much
[09:14] <deuce_> bl3ssing: and then right click on all the lines that begin in with deb and make sure they are enabled
[09:14] <soulrider> konversation, kopete, knetload
[09:14] <RogueX> eitch0000_: you also might want to install w32codec and libxine_extracodecs if you dont have them to get full support in firefoox
[09:14] <soulrider> and thats basically it
[09:14] <Hawkwind> soulrider: The more it's using or has cached, the faster your system runs.  It's the complete opposite of Windows
[09:14] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: soulrider: i uncommented everything in the repo list but still dont work
[09:14] <soulrider> :O
[09:14] <soulrider> sweet
[09:14] <Hawkwind> soulrider: It will cache things for days/weeks/months until you reboot
[09:14] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: did you update?
[09:14] <wckdkl0wn> yea
[09:14] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:14] <soulrider> sweet
[09:15] <deuce_> bl3ssing: then do Fetch Updates and search for whatever and then Apply
[09:15] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: did you type the word multiverse after the word universe?
[09:15] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Post your sources.list to pastebin.com for us to see it
[09:15] <eitch0000_> RogueX: those are installed
[09:15] <wckdkl0wn> !paste
[09:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:15] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: there are 4 lines that end with the word universe
[09:15] <bl3ssing> deuce_, fetch update's not visible ... :(
[09:15] <bl3ssing> I've already enabled everything with deb including with deb.src too
[09:16] <rr72> anyone remember CHiPS?
[09:16] <deuce_> bl3ssing: sorry, hit the Apply button and then Close that window
[09:16] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn: add a space after the word universe and add the word multiverse
[09:16] <deuce_> bl3ssing: and then Fetch Updates
[09:16] <wckdkl0wn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19320
[09:16] <rr72> that show was sweet
[09:16] <bl3ssing> done it. the same. :(
[09:16] <bl3ssing> deuce_, e it. the same. :(
[09:16] <rr72> what happened to all of these cool shows like mgyver and CHiPS
[09:17] <bl3ssing> deuce_, done it. the same. :(
[09:17] <ubuntu> hello all
[09:17] <deuce_> bl3ssing: then Fetch Updates, then hit the Apply button
[09:17] <Hawkwind> rr72: How is that related to Kubuntu.  Might take that to #Kubuntu-OffTopic
[09:17] <deuce_> bl3ssing:  then do the search for p2p
[09:17] <kilrae> macguyver used kubuntu
[09:17] <kilrae> he didn't like gnome
[09:17] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind:  i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer and now it is installing ty
[09:17] <rr72> i DONT like u hawkwind, u banned me in xchat and didnt even talk to me like why u did
[09:17] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: You need to add 'multiverse' to a couple more places in your sources.list
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> rr72, yea take it to offtopic, cuz we aren't doign anything
[09:18] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Ah ok
[09:18] <rr72> Chicago FTW!
[09:18] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: how do you have yours setup in repos?
[09:18] <Hawkwind> You were banned due to being offtopic and annoying
[09:18] <deuce_> like you're being now
[09:18] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[09:19] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: That's my sources.list there.  It's posted on my LFD forums
[09:19] <dr_willis> ChiMPS  - a show about monkeys on motorcycles. :P
[09:19] <rr72> dr_willis~ SSSSSHHHHHHH take it to offtopic cause hawkwind might get mad
[09:20] <Hawkwind> rr72: It happens to be the channel rules
[09:20] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: ok so would i be able to just replace mine with that?
[09:20] <Turtle_JP> is there a dedciated k/ubuntu PPC channel?
[09:20] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: so that i wont run into any more problems later?
[09:20] <deuce_> bl3ssing: you get it to work?
[09:20] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: You could if you wanted to, sure
[09:20] <dhq> how to check what all process are open
[09:20] <Turtle_JP> top
[09:20] <Hawkwind> dhq: ps aux or use top
[09:20] <eitch0000_> has anyone got quicktime movies working in firefox? like from trailers.apple.com?
[09:20] <Hawkwind> !ppc
[09:20] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:21] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: If any of them give you 404 errors or anything, then just comment them out or remove them from the sources.list completely
[09:21] <rr72> and im not even going to mention apple switching to intel causethat would be OFFTOPIC
[09:21] <dhq>  Hawkwind is it in konsole
[09:21] <bl3ssing> deuce_, NOPE!
[09:21] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: sweet and you have a repo for mythtv in there too
[09:21] <Turtle_JP> lol
[09:21] <soulrider> BRB
[09:21] <deuce_> bl3ssing: odd...
[09:21] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: maybe now i can get my capture card to work
[09:22] <trym|work> Im experiencing something very strange.. Winbind is working perfectly for a few users.. but others do not work at all. The user setup should be identical. The winbind log just says that the user is unknown
[09:22] <trym|work> any ideas?
[09:22] <Turtle_JP> rr72 I must say that the Kubuntu LiveCD is running wicked fast on a MacMini G4
[09:22] <Turtle_JP> Actually faster than my P4 3.0
[09:22] <Turtle_JP> Go figure
[09:22] <rr72> Turtle_JP~ don't talk to me about macs
[09:22] <rr72> i will get off topic
[09:23] <Turtle_JP> wouldn't want that to happen
[09:23] <rr72> ;)
[09:23] <rr72> Turtle_JP~ do u use turtlebeach sound card?
[09:23] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: do you have a capture card installed?
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> !xine
[09:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:24] <dhq> is there any grafical software to kill processes
[09:24] <soulrider> i dont know why, but KDE kinda started getting laggy
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !info xine
[09:24] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in dapper
[09:24] <soulrider> i loged out and then abck in
[09:25] <soulrider> ksysguard i think
[09:25] <RogueX> dhq: Xkill will
[09:25] <soulrider> youc an use it to monitor them at least
[09:25] <Turtle_JP> dhq Top is terminal but pretty dang easy
[09:25] <deuce_> bl3ssing: i'm working on something, give me a second and i will see what's up
[09:25] <dr_willis> i like that 'mtop' variant i found on freshmeat.net
[09:26] <KgB_> i have install gcc and gcc 4, but when i try install a program, i execute ./configure and it stop at: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:26] <rr72> Turtle_JP~ do u by chance use turtle beach sound card?
[09:26] <KgB_> its right?
[09:26] <dr_willis> install build-essential
[09:26] <Turtle_JP> No I don't
[09:26] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here have a radeon 9800 pro with svid out that has the svid going to a tv to clone their desktop on?
[09:26] <rr72> lol
[09:26] <rr72> no
[09:26] <Turtle_JP> Runs what ever comes with the system in question
[09:26] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  egads... i do!
[09:26] <KgB_> i have gcc and gcc 4 installed here
[09:26] <bl3ssing> deuce_, np. thanks anyway.
[09:26] <rr72> im against ati but i wont get into that cause its off topic
[09:26] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  got it going last night. :P
[09:26] <dr_willis> got both my ati machines working yesterday
[09:27] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis: care to tell me how?  i tryed last night and broke soemthing in my display lol
[09:27] <deuce_> bl3ssing: check your sources.list and compare to mine - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19322
[09:27] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  i followed that !ati wiki page.
[09:27] <dr_willis> !ati
[09:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:27] <deuce_> bl3ssing:  i find amule and a few others with the search p2p
[09:27] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[09:27] <KgB_> do anyone know why i got that problem? need i install more gcc's?
[09:27] <dr_willis> but i think an imporntant step is  to reboot the machine so the modules get loaded right.
[09:27] <rr72> KgB_~ try changing the gcc compiler via EXPORT
[09:28] <rr72> don't know the proper syntax
[09:28] <rr72> KgB_~ forgoet i said taht
[09:28] <dr_willis> KgB_,  if you havent installed 'build-essential' do so,
[09:28] <rr72> different problem
[09:28] <KgB_> oh
[09:28] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis: yea i had a problem with a module or something cause i couldnt change anything in display even in administrator mode.. just came up with an error
[09:28] <rr72> thought it was differant
[09:28] <bl3ssing> deuce_, already opened the source.list. What should I do now?
[09:28] <KgB_> build-essential.. i will search and istall
[09:28] <KgB_> thx :)
[09:28] <rr72> lol i am sure i am the only one pressing enter to type
[09:28] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  yea - once i go tit going the res was all messed up. i then used the kde x config
[09:29] <soulrider> anyone knows of any good FPS games for linux?
[09:29] <deuce_> bl3ssing: compare it to mine and see if you are missing anything i have - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19322
[09:29] <rr72> soulrider~ doom
[09:29] <rr72> unreal
[09:29] <bl3ssing> cool deuce_ ... wait up. :)
[09:29] <soulrider> yea.. but free?
[09:29] <Jonathann> Is there a way to run Java in x86-64 Firefox?
[09:29] <osh_> soulrider: kriger
[09:29] <rr72> americasarmy
[09:29] <bl3ssing> got it deuce. I didn't know what's with that http//paste...
[09:29] <rr72> soulrider~ thats free
[09:29] <soulrider> i gotta try enemi territory
[09:29] <bl3ssing> now I'm comparing.
[09:29] <bl3ssing> :)
[09:29] <rr72> the tank game
[09:29] <soulrider> americasarmy is propaganda, i refuse to play it
[09:29] <rr72> BZflag or somin
[09:30] <KgB_> Adept is really a great tool
[09:30] <KgB_> i just select and say to download and install :)
[09:30] <rr72> forget adept i just use apt-get and apt-cache
[09:30] <KgB_> i will get full hd soon so
[09:30] <SpAwN> soulrider, ...but its free propoganda
[09:30] <SpAwN> lol
[09:30] <KgB_> but my apt-get have problems
[09:30] <rr72> SpAwN~ the xbox version isnt
[09:30] <KgB_> its dont find many things
[09:31] <rr72> but this is kubuntu not #xbox ;)
[09:31] <KgB_> not so many as adept :)
[09:31] <SpAwN> rr72, i dont realy ploay console games...was even unaware there was a aa's for console
[09:31] <soulrider> i gto a 1985 NES :P
[09:31] <soulrider> thast my only console
[09:31] <SpAwN> lol
[09:31] <rr72> i got mostly everything but this is #kubuntu not #games
[09:31] <SpAwN> nes came out in 85?
[09:31] <rr72> im getting off topic
[09:32] <kilrae> everything is propaganda
[09:32] <rr72> if u banned everyone in a channel who got off topic at least once noone would be channels
[09:32] <kilrae> ubuntu is propaganda
[09:32] <SpAwN> rr72, ...man let the offtopic go...u can say things off topic...its just when ppl try and get help and ppl are talking about sports or somthing...then it get sot be a problem
[09:32] <KgB_> i used linux for some mounths, slackware. but i found a MMORPG to windows called Conuqer Online, and played it for almost 2 years, but im trying stop and installed Ubuntu now
[09:32] <KgB_> Conuqer*
[09:32] <KgB_> conquer*
[09:33] <rr72> KgB_~ i play WoW
[09:33] <KgB_> i dont want play anything anymore lol
[09:33] <rr72> playes runecraft for ever
[09:33] <soulrider> i used to play lineage 2
[09:33] <KgB_> cuz its a waste of time
[09:33] <SpAwN> rr72, or if u just STAY offtopic all the time..then its a prob
[09:33] <rr72> *played
[09:33] <kilrae> besides offtopic discussions often have some relevance, and they allow people to feel welcomed in the community and such
[09:33] <rr72> kilrae~ lol least u understand taht
[09:33] <KgB_> and when u start play, u want not stop to play
[09:33] <dr_willis> life is propaganda :P
[09:34] <dr_willis> and I hate Americas Armies - befause i always die in the paratrooper  test. :)
[09:34] <kilrae> and it makes for a more interesting channel, more interesting means more users, more users means more people to help
[09:34] <KgB_> ow sry
[09:34] <SpAwN> dr_willis, that one i easy
[09:34] <soulrider> that reminds me
[09:34] <SpAwN> *is
[09:34] <soulrider> do i have to install nvidia drivers or so they come already ?
[09:34] <soulrider> i tried mandrake once
[09:35] <soulrider> and i couldnt play enemy territory because of that
[09:35] <dr_willis> but tv out worked from the start for me with the ati cards... nvidia cards were a little more picky
[09:35] <SpAwN> soulrider, u will need to install them if u havent already
[09:35] <SpAwN> soulrider, enemy teritory is the best game ever imo
[09:35] <rr72> i had a signal 11 seg fault
[09:35] <kilrae> i left 8GB free space so i can install other distros to play with without removing my main system
[09:35] <soulrider> i lvoe ET
[09:35] <rr72> off of kdm but i reinstalled my nvidia driver by hand and it works
[09:36] <soulrider> SpAwN: how do i install them ?
[09:36] <SpAwN> soulrider, as do i.....i play every day ;D...
[09:36] <rr72> kilrae~ just get a bunch of computers
[09:36] <sergiusens> enemy t works better for me in lin
[09:36] <KgB_> aw, soulrider i remember me that i have a radeon 9250, do anyone know if the Ubuntu install it automatic on linux instalation?
[09:36] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis: how long did it take you to setup from that howto?
[09:36] <rr72> kilrae~ we have a lot
[09:36] <SpAwN> soulrider, its realy easy...u set up your srouce list correct?
[09:36] <SpAwN> *source
[09:36] <soulrider> yes
[09:36] <KgB_> i want see that the linux can to make with my video card
[09:36] <soulrider> easysou8rce :D
[09:36] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  10 min or so.
[09:36] <dr_willis> i did some reading.. so perhaos an hr total
[09:36] <SpAwN> soulrider, type !nvidia in here
[09:36] <soulrider> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <SpAwN> soulrider, its a matter of installing 2 packages
[09:37] <KgB_> !radeon
[09:37] <soulrider> cool lol
[09:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about radeon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> If you are using the latest drivers from ati for fglrx (Which I would because it fixes the locking up on reboot issue) then you need to remember to take the highmem.h patch from inside fglrx-kernel-source
[09:37] <KgB_> oh
[09:37] <soulrider> i just installed abuse
[09:37] <wckdkl0wn> how come this command doesnt work? gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> (just copy it to linux-headers-*
[09:37] <soulrider> i remember playign ti years ago
[09:37] <KgB_> !ati
[09:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <elDeuce> kilrae: that's what i'm doing later tonight after work
[09:37] <KgB_> aaahmm..
[09:37] <dr_willis> the $ fglrxinfo   test - however failed  untill i rebooted.
[09:37] <KgB_> faster bot lol
[09:37] <elDeuce> kilrae: kubuntu angered me for the last time
[09:38] <SpAwN> soulrider, abuse?...never heard of it
[09:38] <dr_willis> and i alwo reccall commenting out  'load glx' in the x config
[09:38] <soulrider> i think you ahd to shoot aliens
[09:38] <kilrae> elDeuce: try freebsd :P
[09:38] <SpAwN> soulrider, ahh its another game...got ya
[09:38] <DaSkreech> kilrae: eww :-)
[09:39] <elDeuce> kilrae: nah, i give up on Linux. I just want it to be easy to convert an avi to dvd format and Linux makes you use 300 tools and the one do-it-all tool never compiles right, etc.... blah
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> elDeuce: Freebsd is fine to use if you don't use fglrx
[09:39] <KgB_> well, when i used windows, i didnt want a best internet, but now with too many packages and cool programs to download,, i have anything better than my 600kbits
[09:39] <KgB_> i want have
[09:39] <kilrae> elDeuce: true, i do still switch to windows for all my dvd and video needs
[09:39] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Sorry for the delay.  No I don't have a capture card in my box at all
[09:40] <dr_willis> I got nice simple avi to dvd programs under windows... now if they would just WORK.... it would be nice.. but heck.. i cant trouble shoot them at all..
[09:40] <SpAwN> soulrider, u even play true combat:elite ...its a compleate mod of et.....its pretty much counter strike....but i personaly like tc:e more then cs or cs:s
[09:40] <wckdkl0wn> i didnt have to edit that file because once i opened it everything was changed already
[09:40] <elDeuce> dr_willis: i use Avi2Dvd and it works perfect everytime in windows
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> elDeuce: You just need a better version of ffmpeg probably
[09:40] <kilrae> of course, ubuntu doesn't make it much easier with the whole freedom thing
[09:40] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  learning to edit the xorg.conf is test of manhood.
[09:40] <KgB_> guys, do u also think that Ubuntu could have xmms like official mp3 player? it should nice
[09:41] <elDeuce> h3sp4wn: i spent 3 days and 25 hours on trying every peice of linux tool to make a avi into dvd
[09:41] <dr_willis> i just want to know how my dvd-pvr can fit 6 hrs of video on a dvd.. :P and my programs can only fit like 3 hrs..
[09:41] <KgB_> and mozilla firefox too...
[09:41] <SpAwN> elDeuce, tovid will convert any vid to dvd formate....its very eas to use
[09:41] <elDeuce> tried it - continued to crash
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Speaking of DVDs what's the easiest way to turn a DVd into a mkv?
[09:42] <elDeuce> mkvunixtool
[09:42] <SpAwN> elDeuce, well ive been using it for about 6 or 7 months and it works soooooooo good
[09:42] <SpAwN> elDeuce, also the guys here on #tovid are very very smart and helpfull....
[09:42] <elDeuce> SpAwN: come over to my house and make it work cuz i sure cant
[09:42] <dr_willis> I always seem to convert mkvs to avi. :)
[09:42] <dr_willis> we need more video formats!!
[09:43] <Chousuke> mkv is just a container.
[09:43] <Chousuke> and superior to avi.
[09:43] <SpAwN> elDeuce, well its somthing on your end... I and a porlby hundreds if not thousands of ppl use it succecfully
[09:43] <dr_willis> we meed  more front ends under windows that violate the GPL. :)
[09:43] <Chousuke> in terms of features, at least.
[09:43] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis: i think it worked because when i restarted my resolution was sky high huge lol
[09:43] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  heh mine was  so high.. i couldent turn it DOWN.. i had to use the kde tools to do that.
[09:43] <evil_cow> sudo apt-get kde-desktop?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Did you make deb's of the ffmpeg from cvs in the end ?
[09:43] <evil_cow> how o install kde
[09:43] <dr_willis> tv out at uber-high res is annoying.
[09:44] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, no i actuay found a deb already made that had it enabled
[09:44] <KgB_> evil_cow a good wuestion, i also want know lol
[09:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah Iknow I want to convert a DVd to .ogg and . theora then wrap it in a mkv
[09:44] <qbis> witam
[09:44] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, u interested in it?
[09:44] <qbis> polay s?
[09:44] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, i can pprobly dcc send it to u realy quick
[09:44] <qbis> polacy*
[09:44] <wckdkl0wn> well i had svid working last night til i loaded linux then the refresh rate on teh tv went buggy and then lost signal
[09:44] <dr_willis> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop - clearly stated on the Kubuntu homepage. :P
[09:44] <evil_cow> KgB_, c'mon
[09:45] <KgB_> evil_cow i downloaded kubuntu why i dunno do that
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Cheers I will have a look at it
[09:45] <KgB_> hmm
[09:45] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  the xorg.conf file can tweak that ..
[09:45] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  also the card has to convert the srceen down.. so super high res's may mess with ya.
[09:45] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis:  do you have svid hooked up now?
[09:45] <evil_cow> KgB_, i'm using ubuntu now
[09:45] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, one sec man....i need to poke a hole in my firewall
[09:45] <dr_willis> in the basement :P yes
[09:46] <KgB_> dr_willis and for inverse? how install gnome? apt-get ubuntu-gnome ?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: so the mkvunix tool can wrap anything I already have encoded?
[09:46] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis: what do i do in system settings - display? to get it to clone?
[09:46] <dr_willis> ubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <KgB_> hmmm
[09:46] <dr_willis> wckdkl0wn,  mine was cloning from the start.
[09:46] <DaSkreech> So second question how do I rip a DVD to vorbis and theora? :)
[09:46] <jordan> where I can found theme for KDE and how to install them ?
[09:46] <dr_willis> i dident have to do anything with that to get it to clone
[09:47] <DaSkreech> jordan: kde-look.org
[09:47] <KgB_> i will install here after that i download some packages..
[09:47] <dr_willis> there are a large # of themes in the package manager
[09:47] <wckdkl0wn> dr_willis: ok let me restart and i will hook back up the svid to the tv again and see what happens
[09:47] <Chousuke> DaSkreech: should be able to.
[09:47] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: There are?
[09:47] <elDeuce> !mplayer
[09:47] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[09:47] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:47] <jordan> DaSkreech how to install them ?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> jordan: It will be on the page
[09:48] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  yes... look for them :)
[09:48] <qbis> #ubuntu-pl @ freenode.org
[09:48] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: gimmie two examples :)
[09:48] <KgB_> jordan the page teach install :)
[09:48] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i searched for themes ysterday in synatic and found several dozen icon and windowmanager themes.. and artwork for other programs/wallpaper
[09:48] <nix> synatic?
[09:49] <kilrae> weird, xp setup tells me that my 80GB drive has 10TB unpartitioned space
[09:49] <DaSkreech> kilrae: Take it and run!@!
[09:49] <nix> kilrae: xp really has a stupid sense of humor
[09:49] <SpAwN> stupid wireless...everytime i hit save on my router it drops conenctions...i have to modprobe -r ndiswrapper then reload it to make it woke
[09:49] <fritsch> Riddell: still there?
[09:49] <Riddell> fritsch: hi
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Which card are you using ? and driver ?
[09:50] <fritsch> Riddell: do a strace kdostartupconfig > kdostartup.log 2>&1
[09:50] <bluesceada> can you use a pc with a wlan card as a wlan hotspot?? or do they need a special card?
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Are you using the ndiswrapper recommended driver for your chipset ?
[09:50] <SpAwN> um linksys wmp11
[09:50] <fritsch> Riddell: I think it loops forever sarching /etc/kderc /etc/kde3/configglobals and at the end take nothing
[09:51] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, i update ndiswrapper every so often...
[09:51] <TheGateKeeper> bluesceada: don't think so, think you need a proper wireless router
[09:51] <diane> .
[09:51] <bluesceada> TheGateKeeper: hm ok
[09:51] <bluesceada> or some special card probaby
[09:51] <bluesceada> probably...
[09:51] <diane> .
[09:51] <KgB_> anyone know any program that say "who is using the internet? what program is consuming the internet connection?" or so?
[09:52] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, some reason my dcc is not working.........u know of a good file hoster...so i can stick it there for u
[09:52] <fritsch> KgB_: tcpdump ;-)
[09:52] <KgB_> thx :)
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: yousendit.com ?
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> bluesceada: easier to buy a wireless router, at least you know that works :-)
[09:52] <bluesceada> ok
[09:52] <bluesceada> thanks
[09:53] <jordan> How to check what's version of KDE I have ?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Wallpaper you say?
[09:53] <TheGateKeeper> bluesceada: yw :-) for yourself?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> jordan: Open Random application and got to help
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> bluesceada: You definately can do that - what wireless card are you using ?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> go to
[09:53] <bluesceada> h3sp4wn: thanks, it was just a question, i dont really want to do that
[09:53] <jordan> oki I have 3.5.3 it's pl
[09:53] <TheGateKeeper> jordan: start a kde app Help -> about KDE
[09:53] <jordan> oki I have 3.5.3 it's ok ?
[09:54] <Martijn81> anyone got the new basket tab in basket 0.6.0 beta working in kontact?
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> bluesceada: If you are doing that make sure you get a card with a chipset supported by hostapd
[09:54] <DaSkreech> jordan: Sure
[09:55] <bluesceada> h3sp4wn: okay thansk
[09:55] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=52BE154F6A3054FF   there ya go man
[09:55] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, ...im not even sure how old that one is...
[09:55] <nik_> hello
[09:55] <jordan> What do you thing abut vista themes for KUBUNTU  :U
[09:55] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, but its been working for me
[09:55] <nik_> how to say konqueror that he should not open gwenview etc as kpart but as a standalone app?
[09:55] <stef_> hoi hoe kan iik een proggie instaleren
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: bluesceada I stand corrected, talking about hostpad brings the previous conversation flooding back
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> bluesceada: rottern memory sorry :-(
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: Hostapd is fine with atheros / prism maybe others the problems are only with using the bleeding edge rt2500 drivers with the devicescape hostapd cvs on amd 64)
[09:57] <soulrider> is it me or when you download form the repositories its not too fast :-/
[09:57] <bluesceada> TheGateKeeper: ok :-)
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, depends on what you're downloading
[09:58] <soulrider> nvidia drivers
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> no as in it depends on what you're downloading
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Ever thought of attempting to run linux on your router (depending on what model it is it may improve the reliability tremendously)
[09:58] <soulrider> ah
[09:58] <soulrider> well, i gtoa 512kb line
[09:59] <soulrider> and i see that not even 200kb are being used
[10:00] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, i have...but was weary about mucking around with it to much...i have it running the newest fireware.....but even when i talk to linksys....they tell me to connect directly to the internet....cuz its a known issue i guess...where when u save it drops the wireless connections about 60% of the time....
[10:00] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, but have u messed with it b4......or know of a good site or somthing?...
[10:00] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: thanx, think you have told me that before, and I must have a rottern memory :-)
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Is it a linksys wrt54g ?
[10:01] <SpAwN> well earlier i though i wanted to know my card......my router is a befw11s4 version 4
[10:01] <SpAwN> wireless b router...
[10:01] <SpAwN> its actualy kinda old
[10:01] <dr_willis> i took back a linksys router - it was always dropping wireless.. like exactly every half hr...
[10:02] <dr_willis> ya can get some really nice routers now a days for cheap
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Do you know what version of the wireless card you have ?
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: (or what chipset it is ? is it broadcom ?)
[10:03] <Giorgio> I have a laptop and a PC running both on kubuntu at this moment and connected to the same router. How do i do to see one each other from the konsole?
[10:03] <slow-motion> n8
[10:03] <dr_willis> Giorgio,  define 'see'  :)
[10:03] <dr_willis> ya  can just ping each machine and that will show if the other is responding
[10:04] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, i dont off the top of my head.....i havent messed with the wireless seince i figured out i could use ndis...
[10:04] <SpAwN> dr_willis, i would like to get a new router...probly will
[10:04] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  i got that  Linksys Mini router  on sale for like $25 - its handy
[10:04] <dr_willis> little lacking in features.. but heck - its the size of a pack of Cigs.
[10:04] <soulrider> i need some help, i tired installing the nvidia drivers, i follow the isntructions but they dont get installed correctly
[10:04] <soulrider> !nvidia
[10:04] <SpAwN> mini router?... whats that mean....
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <dr_willis> Its little. :P
[10:05] <SpAwN> ahhh
[10:05] <SpAwN> soulrider, whats the prob man?
[10:05] <fritsch> Riddell: in kini/kdostartupconfig.cpp for the return of 6, either the kderc oder the group is empty?
[10:05] <soulrider> well, i downlaoded the correct package
[10:05] <fritsch> Riddell: am I on the right way or totally wrong?
[10:05] <soulrider> but when i put that line in my console i get an error
[10:05] <soulrider> i rebooted X
[10:05] <soulrider> and no nvidia logo, so it snot correctly isntalled
[10:05] <SpAwN> soulrider, paste the error to pastbin pls
[10:06] <dr_willis> Hmm..    the how to was about a 3 line cut/paste job i thought
[10:06] <soulrider> just a sec
[10:06] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: If you are in the US there is a guy on ebay selling gateway 7001 routers (rrp $300) for $55 - they are a/b/g and atheros (good enough for me to import one to the uk for an astronomical amount of shipping)
[10:06] <Hawkwind> You won't always get the nvidia splash screen.  Sometimes I see it, sometimes I don't and my nvidia drivers are always working
[10:06] <dr_willis> Stolen routers? :P
[10:06] <SpAwN> hehe
[10:06] <soulrider> i paste it here ?
[10:06] <dr_willis> nvidis splash can show up/vanish fast if on a CRT
[10:07] <SpAwN> soulrider, no
[10:07] <RogueX> Anyone know if there is an easy way to restart network services like in fedora you type" network services restart"
[10:07] <soulrider> im on an LCD
[10:07] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: They look reasonably legit but gateway doesn't sell them anymore
[10:07] <SpAwN> !pastebin
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:07] <dr_willis>  - /etc/init.d/network restart
[10:07] <soulrider> oh cool!
[10:07] <dr_willis> :)
[10:07] <dr_willis> reasonably legit. :) lol
[10:07] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=gateway+7001
[10:07] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, i am us...east coast
[10:07] <RogueX> dr_willis: lol yea I got that one..
[10:08] <Riddell> fritsch: I don't see anything unusual in what it's doing there, it's just reading /etc/kderc each time it needs a config file
[10:08] <soulrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19330
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Those are what I would get now (openwrt is 97.5% working on them) but it is the last few that are getting sold off (with the right atheros card you can connect on both bands a and g at the same time)
[10:09] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, ...hmm so im gonna problt need a new wifi card also...
[10:09] <fritsch> Riddell: mmh :-( what can i still strace?
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: The thing is if you get the router before it is nolonger available you can get the wifi card at anytime
[10:10] <SpAwN> soulrider, u get the driver installed correct?...ie u insatlled the 2 packages that the how to told u to correct?.
[10:10] <soulrider> i insatlled one package :-/
[10:10] <SpAwN> soulrider, the other was already installed correct?
[10:10] <Riddell> fritsch: the method I want to look at is addPrefix in kstandarddirs.cpp, however my dapper compile doesn't want to compile so I'm stuck
[10:10] <Giorgio> I'm on my laptop called "myfirstlinux" and the PC is called "main". when i do "$ping myfirstlinux" iget response but i don't when i do "$ping main" . Is this the way that's supposed to be?
[10:10] <fritsch> Riddell: I can recompile the kdelibs package
[10:11] <fritsch> Riddell: if you have a patch against your source ...
[10:11] <soulrider> no, no packages installed, btu im nto gonna compile anything 3d, so i only need one fo them right ?
[10:11] <SpAwN> soulrider, u need to install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules(for your kernel)
[10:11] <soulrider> nvidia-glx.
[10:11] <soulrider> oh
[10:11] <fritsch> Riddell: I downloaded apt-get source kdelibs4c2a from your packages
[10:11] <soulrider> what i understood wa that it wa sinside the linux resitricted modules
[10:11] <SpAwN> soulrider, uname -r then pick the linux-restricted-modules that matches the output of uname
[10:12] <soulrider> i gtoa  bunch of numbers
[10:12] <soulrider> i gotta search for that right ?
[10:12] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, got ya.....i need to see what kinda money i have...im broke as a joke atm
[10:12] <soulrider> linux restricted modules i sinstalled
[10:13] <soulrider> only thing thats not installed is: linux-headers
[10:13] <SpAwN> soulrider, k when i do uname -r i get "2.6.15-26-686" which is the kernel i am running u need to match the running kernel version to the linux resitricted modules
[10:13] <jordan> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!
[10:13] <soulrider> i got the same
[10:14] <jordan> compilate error ?
[10:14] <soulrider> yes, i got the right one insatlled
[10:14] <soulrider> and i got anothe rone installed
[10:14] <soulrider> too
[10:15] <jordan> anybody can help me ?
[10:15] <SpAwN> k soulrider that fine
[10:15] <SpAwN> soulrider, now try running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[10:15] <dr_willis> fire up the package manager and start installing the x developer files  I forget the exact name. :(
[10:15] <SpAwN> soulrider, let me know if that says anything
[10:16] <dr_willis> !b-e
[10:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:16] <uniq> jordan: try to install the package named 'xorg-dev'.
[10:16] <ninHer> hi all
[10:16] <soulrider> the same error
[10:16] <TheGateKeeper> jordan: what are you trying to compile?
[10:16] <SpAwN> soulrider, the one u posted me earlier?
[10:16] <jordan> evrythings i have this error
[10:17] <soulrider> yes
[10:17] <dr_willis> apt-get install build-essential   ( if you havent allready done so)
[10:17] <SpAwN> soulrider, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:17] <dr_willis> Then theres all these dev packages that different programs need
[10:17] <jordan> uniq useing apt-get to install this package ?
[10:17] <uniq> jordan: apt-get or adept.. your choice.
[10:17] <TheGateKeeper> jordan: ok put it another way, does the package you are trying to compile already exist in the repos?
[10:17] <dr_willis> !info xorg-dev
[10:17] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org development libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[10:17] <SpAwN> soulrider, then scroll down to the "device" part
[10:18] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Netgear WGT634U are pretty well supported by openwrt also (and you can get them for about $20 now)
[10:18] <soulrider> ok
[10:18] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, damn 20 bucks...pretty cheap
[10:18] <SpAwN> soulrider, u found that part?
[10:18] <dr_willis> heh
[10:18] <jordan> TheGateKeeper no this is the themes for KDE
[10:18] <soulrider> yes
[10:18] <SpAwN> what driver is it using?
[10:18] <SpAwN> nv?
[10:18] <soulrider> yes
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> jordan: ok :-) just checking
[10:18] <dr_willis> jordan,  what 'theme' ?
[10:18] <SpAwN> soulrider, change nv to nvidia
[10:19] <soulrider> ok
[10:19] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: You have to be careful with them as its quite easy to brick them (and then you need to build a serial console to fix them) but once working they are really good
[10:19] <SpAwN> soulrider, wait one sec
[10:19] <soulrider> how do i save
[10:19] <soulrider> ok
[10:19] <SpAwN> soulrider, `change it back to nv real quick
[10:19] <soulrider> ok
[10:19] <soulrider> done
[10:19] <jordan> TheGateKeeper ok thanks I know i can use apt-get but I can't on this time :)
[10:20] <ubuntu> hi
[10:20] <SpAwN> k ctrl + x to save.....when u do its gonna ask u to save it...save it under a diff name
[10:20] <soulrider> what name should i use
[10:20] <SpAwN> soulrider, so if anything goes wrong u can simply revert back to the working one u have now
[10:20] <soulrider> ok
[10:20] <SpAwN> soulrider, i used like xorg.conf.WORKING
[10:20] <SpAwN> or somthing similer
[10:20] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  Thats what I use! you cant do that! :P
[10:21] <soulrider> done
[10:21] <dr_willis> xorg.conf.working_almost
[10:21] <dr_willis> :)
[10:21] <jordan> uniq thank's it's works :] 
[10:21] <SpAwN> dr_willis, but i called dibbs on it
[10:21] <SpAwN> :P
[10:21] <dr_willis> xorg.conf.working_almost_but_wrong_res
[10:21] <SpAwN> soulrider, once ya hae done that...go back reopen the original..xorg.conf and change drivers
[10:21] <soulrider> ok
[10:21] <ubuntu> I'm in a small problem here...
[10:22] <jordan> ehh :
[10:22] <jordan> make
[10:22] <jordan> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: You may want composite (to enable all that stuff the easiest way is to use nvidia-xconfig)
[10:22] <bluesceada> hmm
[10:22] <bluesceada> i have a question
[10:22] <dr_willis> jordan,  you sure you even have to compile that theme?  (try make all, or make install)
[10:22] <ubuntu> trying to install kubuntu but for some reason the installer lets me only choose sda1 to install it
[10:22] <soulrider> ok, is aved the file
[10:22] <soulrider> waht if somehtign goes wrong? :-/
[10:22] <bluesceada> a friend has kubuntu and wants to just install security updates because of slow internet
[10:22] <ubuntu> I'd like to use sda2 for linux...
[10:22] <bluesceada> but he also wants to be able to still just install some new packages
[10:22] <SpAwN> soulrider, then when u are done u can try and restart x......if x doesnt start and u get droped back at a command line...simply do "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.WORKING /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:23] <bluesceada> now it cant work when he just removes all other repositories then dapper-securiy
[10:23] <bluesceada> is there any other way to do it ?
[10:23] <soulrider> let me write it to a paper or soemthing
[10:23] <jordan> theme : lipstik-2.2
[10:23] <SpAwN> soulrider, yea good idea....it sucks to be stuck at cli and not know what to do
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> bluesceada: leave dapper main restricted multiverse universe and dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe
[10:23] <soulrider> indeed
[10:23] <liviux> good evening all. What do you think about Creative commons? (if someone know it)
[10:23] <liviux> '
[10:24] <liviux> ?
[10:24] <SpAwN> soulrider, just incase try this
[10:24] <bluesceada> h3sp4wn: wont it try to update stuff then?
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> bluesceada: dapper main restricted multiverse universe is locked (i.e you will never get updates from there)
[10:24] <bluesceada> ah
[10:24] <bluesceada> but it is still updated, right?
[10:24] <bluesceada> so if he wants to install something, he installs the newest version
[10:25] <soulrider> ok
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> No he would install the released version
[10:25] <soulrider> wish me luck!!!
[10:25] <SpAwN> soulrider, if u get back at cli......change back the driver or xorg.conf to the working one....then do "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" to stop xorg......then "/etc/init.d/kdm start" to start it....somtimes i needed to do that
[10:25] <bluesceada> h3sp4wn: ew stupid :/
[10:25] <jordan> dr_willis theme : lipstik-2.2
[10:25] <SpAwN> crap!
[10:26] <soulrider> YAY!
[10:26] <soulrider> i saw the logo! :P
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> jordan: this will sicken you :-) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127305
[10:26] <SpAwN> soulrider, good stuff man
[10:26] <soulrider> oh yes
[10:26] <soulrider> working perfectly well
[10:27] <soulrider> i notices because if i makea  huge selection
[10:27] <soulrider> it wont lag
[10:27] <soulrider> dman, you get a golder star SpAwN
[10:27] <soulrider> :D
[10:27] <SpAwN> soulrider, now only time u will need to do that again is after a kernel update or a xorg update
[10:27] <SpAwN> soulrider, that makes 5 starts for me now ;D
[10:27] <SpAwN> im "special"
[10:27] <SpAwN> :P
[10:27] <soulrider> ok
[10:27] <soulrider> when a new kernels comes out, ill message you :P
[10:27] <soulrider> lol
[10:27] <SpAwN> hehe
[10:28] <SpAwN> i go by SpAwN rOOb or bLaZeD
[10:28] <soulrider> kk
[10:28] <Giorgio> why my two pc's dont 'see' one each other if they are connected to the same router? Must I add reserved mapping?
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> Giorgio: What do you mean are you using static ip addresses ?
[10:30] <Dihead> *giggle*
[10:31] <Giorgio> h3sp4wn: When i connct to the web i have dinamical IP adress cause it's not the same one day to another
[10:31] <Giorgio> I dont know if i ansered your question
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> Giogio: Can your router allow you to set fixed ip addresses with dhcp (according to mac address)
[10:34] <w00t> hello
[10:34] <w00t> ?
[10:34] <Giorgio> h3sp4wn: Are you talkin abut the internal IP addresses?
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> Giorgio: Yes
[10:34] <w00t> hello does anyone know how i can connect wirreless in konsole?
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> w00t: sudo wpa_cli
[10:35] <ubuntu> any help for me with the partitioning problem?
[10:35] <ubuntu> what why can't I install kubuntu to sda2?
[10:36] <w00t> no i mean to my ap there is no security on the moment:P?
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> w00t: use iwconfig
[10:36] <Lunar_Raven> !cedega
[10:36] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[10:36] <negocio> how do i install .bin file
[10:37] <ubuntu> first chmod a+x file.bin and then ./file.bin
[10:38] <Giorgio> h3p4wn: my router seems to be unable to add reserved mapping dchp but the internal IP addresses are static (always the same)
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> w00t: iwconfig --help will tell you the options
[10:38] <Giorgio> h3sp4wn: my router seems to be unable to add reserved mapping dchp but the internal IP addresses are static (always the same)
[10:38] <w00t> :) ty i was looking there already:)
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> Giorgio: And you cannot ping one from the other ?
[10:39] <negocio> thanks
[10:39] <negocio> another question
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> w00t: iwlist wlan0 scan (to get the ssid and channel)
[10:39] <ubuntu> anyone installed kubuntu here?
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> (or whatever interface name you have eg eth1 ath0 etc etc)
[10:39] <negocio> i have upgrade kubuntu, and now, i have english language instead spanish
[10:39] <w00t> :)
[10:39] <w00t> ty
[10:40] <Giorgio> h3sp4wn: no, i just can ping both himself
[10:40] <negocio> i have select sp'anish and i have english anyway
[10:40] <ubuntu> why can't I choose any other destinations than sda1 for the root filesystem?!?
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> !es
[10:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:41] <Giorgio> h3sp4wn: when I installed Kubuntu i defined my username, the machine name and... I can't remember if I defined a workgroup name or some like this
[10:41] <KgB_> guys i was making a ./configure for install kasablanca FTP client and got the error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:42] <KgB_> well im using Kubuntu lol, ho can i get a x error?
[10:42] <KgB_> its right?
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> Giorgio: If you cannot ping one from the other then workgroup names etc are irrelevant
[10:42] <aseigo> KgB_: that's because you don't have the dev packages installed.
[10:43] <aseigo> KgB_: easiest way to solve all that is to do sth like:
[10:43] <Giorgio> h3spawn: I understand
[10:43] <KgB_> aseigo: ahmmm i must install x-dev?
[10:43] <Dihead> build-tools and gcc installed?
[10:43] <aseigo> apt-get build-dep kdebase
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> w00t: If you then want to set it permanent put something like wireless_essid Home underneath the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:43] <bl3ssing> I hate ADEPT! :D .. hhehehehee... why this Adept's all the time coming with a READ-ONLY mode to me ... when I'm it's friend?
[10:43] <bl3ssing> :D
[10:43] <aseigo> that will install every package needed to build kdebase and therefore pretty much satisfy any kde app's kde and related deps too for building
[10:43] <w00t> ..
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: Just use aptitude
[10:44] <bl3ssing> h3sp4wn, how?
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: sudo aptitude
[10:45] <soulrider> err guys i need some help, soemthign realy strange is happening
[10:45] <KgB_> let me try..
[10:45] <soulrider> i use a pppoe connection
[10:45] <soulrider> and nothing cna use the internet except for konversation and kopete
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: control t to get to the menu
[10:45] <soulrider> it shows as if i wa soffline
[10:48] <w00t_> hello?
[10:48] <w00t_> ?
[10:48] <bl3ssing> h3sp4wn, Got it. How can I find xmule ... to install it?
[10:48] <bl3ssing> :)
[10:48] <w00t_> aah back online:)
[10:48] <bl3ssing> with aptitude?:)
[10:48] <dr_willis_> !info xmule
[10:48] <ubotu> xmule: eMule client for the edonkey2000 network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0b-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 891 kB, installed size 2800 kB
[10:49] <Robosos> how can i find out the version of kubuntu?
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: Quit the gui version and do sudo aptitude install xmule
[10:49] <trappist> Robosos: kde-config --version
[10:49] <rr72> u can also cat a file
[10:49] <bl3ssing> h3sp4wn, you mean the Adept (is this the gui ...?)
[10:49] <rr72> don't know which one tho
[10:50] <jordan> TheGateKeeper i can't download don't exist
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: I thought you just ran aptitude ?
[10:50] <uniq> Robosos: in konsole: 'lsb_release -a'
[10:50] <rr72> uniq~ yeah thats the one
[10:50] <bl3ssing> yeap h3sp4wn I'm on it. How to quit the gui ...?
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: control t - then quit
[10:50] <Robosos> i wouldn't have the version of the other things...i would have the verions of the kubuntu...
[10:50] <Giorgio> when I put the internal IP address of my other PC  in firefox i get a message:" connection has been refused when trying to contact with 192.168.36"
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: then sudo aptitude install xmule
[10:50] <rr72> thats not a alid ip[ address
[10:51] <Giorgio> Does it mean something?
[10:51] <rr72> Giorgio~ is apache or another webserver running?
[10:51] <Robosos> what for a version of kubuntu use kde 3.4.3?
[10:51] <Dihead> your ip address is too short
[10:51] <bl3ssing> h3sp4wn, what was that site where I could send you the link of it with my problems?
[10:51] <rr72> try 192.168.3.6
[10:51] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: sudo aptitude search xmule (might also have helped you if you didn't know the package name exactly) or you can do it from the commandline gui but if you know exactly what you want using it
[10:52] <Giorgio> rr72: I didnot started any webserver
[10:52] <h3sp4wn> !pastebin
[10:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:52] <dr_willis_> thats a weird ip address. :P
[10:52] <h3sp4wn> !iproute2
[10:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about iproute2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:53] <jordan> dr_willis theme : lipstik-2.2
[10:53] <jordan> Can you help me :P ?
[10:53] <dr_willis_> !info lipstik
[10:53] <ubotu> Package lipstik does not exist in dapper
[10:53] <dr_willis_> Heh..
[10:53] <jordan> ehh
[10:54] <dr_willis_> ya know theres thousands of themes you can get that you dont need to compile..
[10:54] <dr_willis_> :)
[10:54] <KgB_> really this channel have a excellent bot :)
[10:54] <dr_willis_> well hundreds
[10:54] <bl3ssing> h3sp4wn, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19334 ... there's the FBI information (any FBI worker here ...? :D)
[10:55] <TheGateKeeper> dr_willis_: jordan something exists here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kde-style-lipstik don't know if you can use it
[10:56] <w00t_> pff
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:56] <jordan> TheGateKeeper tgz compilation :/
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> bl3ssing: Then try sudo aptitude install xmule
[10:57] <jordan> so what's themes are able to apt-get install ?:] 
[10:57] <elDeuce> bl3ssing: it's still not finding p2p  ?
[10:57] <dr_willis_> jordan,  fire up synaptic or whatever ya like and search for 'themes'
[10:58] <KgB_> guys i must install a lib, called libgtk-x11.so.0, how i do it using apt-get? i already tried apt-get install libgtk, lib-gtk, libgtk-x11, lib x11.. but no one got any result. apt-get can download and install libs too?
[10:59] <dr_willis_> apt-get can install anything
[10:59] <dr_willis_> libs are just normal packatges
[10:59] <dr_willis_> try apt-cache search libgtk
[10:59] <dr_willis_> !info libgtk
[10:59] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[10:59] <KgB_> ok.. let me try..
[10:59] <dr_willis_> !info libgtk-x11
[10:59] <ubotu> Package libgtk-x11 does not exist in dapper
[10:59] <KgB_> oh
[10:59] <dr_willis_> !info libgtk-dev
[10:59] <ubotu> Package libgtk-dev does not exist in dapper
[10:59] <jordan> but i cant's saw them :/
[10:59] <dr_willis_> Hmm.
[11:00] <jordan> dr_willis_ you use any themes
[11:00] <jordan> ?
[11:00] <w00t_> h3sp4wn:P can u help me step by step:P
[11:01] <w00t_> interface is eth1 and essid is blaad:P
[11:01] <KgB_> dr_willis_ i did that, but it cant find libgtk-x11, but it found many others packages :)
[11:01] <w00t_> u know the command to connect?
[11:01] <KgB_> i need that for use eclipse
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> w00t_: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:01] <dr_willis_> jordan,  i like the plasik theme
[11:02] <dr_willis_> !info eclipse
[11:02] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> w00t_: Do you know its definately working i.e iwlist eth1 scan - works ?
[11:02] <jordan> dr_willis_ how to install them ?
[11:02] <dr_willis_> apt-get install eclipse SHOULD install the needed packages for it.
[11:02] <w00t_> yea
[11:02] <dr_willis_> jordan,  fire up synaptic, find some themes.. click on them and install
[11:02] <KgB_> let me try again...
[11:02] <w00t_> i get al the networks :)
[11:02] <kilrae> i wonder why ubuntu says eastern time is GMT-0400 and windows says GMT-0500
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> w00t_: that means its ok pastebin /etc/network/interfaces and I will edit it and put the needed line in
[11:03] <aliasfred> kilrae: looks like daylight saving stuff
[11:03] <w00t_> bash: pastebin: command not found
[11:03] <aliasfred> :)
[11:04] <w00t_> i am real newbie:P\
[11:04] <KgB_> whoo hooo, finnaly the apt-get is working :) was the repos...
[11:04] <uniq> !pastebin > w00t_
[11:04] <aliasfred> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:04] <kilrae> aliasfred: ah yes, so it is (i wiki'd it)
[11:04] <aliasfred> he meant this pastebin :)
[11:04] <KgB_> dr_willis_  im downloading :)
[11:05] <KgB_> eclipse and dep, 124 mbs total
[11:05] <dr_willis_> :)
[11:05] <tsdgeos> Riddell: kickerrc was the offending file
[11:05] <jordan> How to get weather on deskop ?
[11:05] <Riddell> tsdgeos: hmm?
[11:05] <marco> fds
[11:06] <bl3ssing> Hallelujah to the LORD! Finally got the xmule. :D God bless you h3sp4wn! Come here in Roselle, NJ ... and I'll give you a cup of tea! (Not drinking Alcohool ... no offense to anyone who's'n the opposite position :D)
[11:07] <KgB_> afk for a bit.. waiting the eclipse download :)
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: is adept still in read-only mode?
[11:08] <bl3ssing> not using Adept anymore. But aptitude. :D
[11:08] <bl3ssing> adept must be again in read only ... but I'm affraid of opening again.
[11:09] <dr_willis_> You are runnint adept as root?
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: personally I use synaptic
[11:09] <dr_willis_> jordan,  install that weatherfox extension for firefox - its much better
[11:09] <dr_willis_> jordan,  thers also a panel applet I think
[11:09] <w00t_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19335
[11:10] <w00t_> ?
[11:10] <bl3ssing> in kubuntu?
[11:10] <bl3ssing> how are you using synaptic TheGateKeeper ?
[11:11] <bl3ssing> this xmule's not good for anything. :D ... how'll be the amule? better?
[11:11] <w00t_> ,..,,
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> w00t_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19336 (remove the interfaces you don't need if you are not using eth0 then remove the auto eth0 also)
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> w00t_: then sudo ifup eth1 and it should just work
[11:12] <farous> bl3ssing: amule is ok here but still download speed even with high ID is a joke
[11:12] <bl3ssing> I'l try to install ... the amule program too.
[11:12] <StrudelNinja> I just changed my color theme, but my taskbar didn't change, how can I force a change?
[11:12] <bl3ssing> gr...
[11:12] <bl3ssing> farous, do you recommend me any other p2p free program?
[11:13] <farous> bl3ssing: on amule you will find any thing you want just the download speed. torrent is much better now. limewire has ok speed but you will not find a lot of things you search for
[11:14] <dr_willis_> Torrents rule :P
[11:14] <soulrider> i like torrents
[11:14] <farous> i agree dr_willis_
[11:14] <soulrider> im in some private trackers and i must tell you
[11:14] <StrudelNinja> the only time I don't torrent is when I want one specific song
[11:14] <soulrider> the speed is just awesome
[11:14] <soulrider> imax out my connection
[11:14] <StrudelNinja> though usually if I like a band I'll download their whole discography
[11:14] <StrudelNinja> even if I never listen to it
[11:14] <yml> Hello is there some french kubuntu fan there because I need some help to setup the freeplayer
[11:14] <dr_willis_> Heh
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> dc++ is better than torrents for most things (well I was after unreleased psychedelic trance)
[11:15] <farous> h3sp4wn: lol so will google dc++
[11:15] <StrudelNinja> meh I never liked DC much
[11:16] <dr_willis_> *meh*
[11:16] <StrudelNinja> a lot of the good network things on it wanted me to share more than I had so I couldn't get on them
[11:16] <dr_willis_> :)
[11:16] <dr_willis_> Sounds like the old BBS days!
[11:17] <farous> haha dc++ exper tech difficulties :(
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> farous: There is probably a linux client - don't really get any music of questionable origin now (But when you dj in clubs you need to have new music)
[11:17] <bl3ssing> farous, I installed limewire. Where's located since I want to start it ... :D
[11:17] <farous> bl3ssing: how did you install it ?
[11:17] <bobbyd> hi
[11:18] <MikeMcA> Noob here.  I'm trying to get apache2 to handle .shtml files.  mod_include is enabled via a2enmod.  I'm getting an error saying Options +Includes wasn't set even though it is, in my httpd.conf file.  There's a comment in httpd.conf saying it's only there for backwards compat. reasons.  Should I be enabled includes somewhere else?  Thanks!
[11:18] <farous> h3sp4wn: am not so into music just books and non copyrighted movies
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: sometimes I use synaptic to install stuff or find what is installed or search for packages, other times I use apt-get to install things, depends what I am doing
[11:18] <farous> bl3ssing: anyway easiest way to type locate runLime.sh
[11:19] <dr_willis_> !limewire
[11:19] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[11:19] <dr_willis_> I perfer FrostWire :)
[11:20] <bobbyd> hi, my friend has an AMD64 and he gets a segfault when trying to compile with g++, is this a known issue?
[11:20] <dr_willis_> bobbyd,  first ive heard of it.
[11:20] <jordan> how to install xxx.deb ?
[11:20] <dr_willis_> dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:20] <bobbyd> dr_willis_: have you heard of a fix? :)
[11:20] <fritsch> Riddell: btw. another problem kdm tells: Internal error: memory corruption detected, but it gets not killed
[11:20] <dr_willis_> !apt-get
[11:20] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:20] <bl3ssing> farous, sudo aptitude install limewire
[11:20] <farous> dr_willis_: did not like it much was not at same level of limewire though now i find anythin i search for have a delete icon beside it that is utterly useless for me
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> jordan: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[11:20] <gnomefreak> jordan: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:20] <farous> bl3ssing: did not know it is in the official repos
[11:20] <gnomefreak> bl3ssing: no limewire is not in rpeos
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> !info gnut
[11:20] <ubotu> Package gnut does not exist in dapper
[11:21] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[11:21] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[11:21] <farous> bl3ssing: you can use the package manager to searcch for it
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> I thought gnut was the best gnutella client (you could run it on a shell account and download really quickly with it - but this was in 2001 approximately
[11:21] <farous> gnomefreak: limewire is not in the ubuntu repos or is it?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> its not
[11:21] <gnomefreak> neither is frostwire
[11:21] <farous> gnomefreak: yah i thought so
[11:22] <gnomefreak> amule is iirc
[11:22] <dr_willis_> !frostwire
[11:22] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:22] <fritsch> gnomefreak: did you did further into the ubuntu theme thing?
[11:22] <farous> bl3ssing: how did you install it from the repos then?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> fritsch: what theme?
[11:23] <bl3ssing> didn't install from repos, from konsole with that ocmmand: sudo aptitude install limewire
[11:23] <fritsch> gnomefreak: the default settings problem in 3.5.4
[11:23] <soulrider> why dont you use frostwire ?
[11:23] <farous> bl3ssing: do you have non officialr repos in your sources.list file. What you said by the way mean you installed from the repos
[11:23] <gnomefreak> fritsch: no i havent looked at it since this morning if i get time i will look into it tomorrow
[11:24] <gnomefreak> fritsch: ill grab hobbsee and see if she can duplicate it
[11:24] <farous> bl3ssing: my best guess that it is not installed. when you type sudo aptitude search limewire does it show as installed?
[11:24] <bl3ssing> I said that I installed by typing this command: sudo aptitude install limewire  (I thought this is a repos way ... )
[11:24] <gnomefreak> farous: its not in repos aptitude wont show it
[11:24] <gnomefreak> bl3ssing: its not in ubuntu repos
[11:24] <farous> gnomefreak: he might have non official repos
[11:24] <fritsch> gnomefreak: mmmh i looked some hours now and really cannot find anything :-( hoping on further
[11:25] <gnomefreak> bl3ssing: apt-cache policy limewire    is it installed and what repo is it in (repo will be one of last things)
[11:25] <bl3ssing> farous, it is nothing showing me ... :(
[11:26] <omeow> How can I speed up the kubuntu boot process? It's taking forever to boot, plus it loads stuff like bluetooth and raid stuff that I won't be using.
[11:26] <farous> bl3ssing: just typing the command does not mean you installed the package :)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> fritsch: sorry ive been shoulder deep in bugs today
[11:27] <bl3ssing> farous, but I've seen that it was installing ... :D
[11:27] <aliasfred> damn 30min of stress because i was looking at the wrong place to find a bug
[11:27] <bl3ssing> gnomefreak, unable to locate limeware file. :(
[11:28] <dimsuz> Hi! is there some preference order of repositories in sources.list?
[11:28] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes no problem, it`s got the problem is reported and when it`s official fixed, that`s the best
[11:28] <gnomefreak> bl3ssing: than 10 to 1 its not installed apt-cache policy will show anything that is installed
[11:28] <gnomefreak> dimsuz: yes official ones
[11:29] <fritsch> gnomefreak: just hoped to could help a little more (but knowledge is at end)
[11:29] <dimsuz> gnomefreak: and how do I change that order?
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: /etc/apt/preferences
[11:29] <farous> dimsuz: i think not sure though you can set perf in apt.conf file only
[11:29] <bl3ssing> thanks gnomefreak  got it.
[11:29] <bl3ssing> :)
[11:29] <dimsuz> gnomefreak: I added a repo which has a newest version of tellico, but apt-get install want's to install official one
[11:30] <fritsch> dimsuz: did you do apt-get update before?
[11:30] <bl3ssing> ok guys. I got another question.
[11:30] <dimsuz> fritsch: after I added that repository I updated. a minute ago :)
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: aptitude install blah -t reponame
[11:31] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: I don't have that file.... (/etc/preferences)
[11:31] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: what's an 'aptitude'? (newbie here)
[11:31] <dimsuz> :)
[11:31] <bl3ssing> how can I create a partition so that whenever I'm intalling the new linux OS, this partition not to be affected by anything (I mean ... I just want to save my downloaded files on this partition and whenever I want to reinstall the OS, this partition to protect my fiiles.)
[11:32] <bl3ssing> farous, gnomefreak ->> I'm full upgrading the Adept! :)
[11:32] <dr_willis_> bl3ssing,  you mean have your  /home on its own partition?
[11:32] <Giorgio> must I have any server running to be able to connect my second PC from this one?
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: /etc/apt/preferances - I know you wont have it but you need to work out how to pin specific apps - I don't know whether I know enough about it to explain it well
[11:32] <bl3ssing> dr_willis_, I mean ... I want to have another partition beside the etc2, etc3, root, and swap one!
[11:33] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: rtfm, yes? :) Ok, I'll read man :)
[11:33] <dr_willis_> bl3ssing,  i normally make one at install time
[11:33] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: I will try to find something that explains it
[11:34] <bl3ssing> but dr_willis_ what if I want to install a new OS over the older version one, and ... want to save my files? how can I do this?
[11:34] <farous> dimsuz: you can use adept or synaptic for pinning
[11:34] <soulrider> how do i open a .run file? :P
[11:34] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: I found man apt_preferences
[11:35] <gnomefreak> soulrider: sh file.run
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> dimuz: http://www.argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html (look at the bottom part of that about unofficial sources)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> soulrider: ou dont open them you run them
[11:35] <Giorgio> where can I get a complete list of irc-channels  linux-related?
[11:35] <dimsuz> farous: at a quick glance -t helps me to fetch package from e.g. edgy? But that's not what I want. I want a package from not-official repository. Or should I RTFM more? :)
[11:35] <soulrider> i right cliekd a file on ym desktopa nd now its like frozen
[11:35] <dr_willis_> bl3ssing,  if you had a home partition made, and stuff on it.. you just tell the new install to mount it. and not format it when installing
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> dimuz: Make sure you pin that repo with a priority higher than dapper (just change unstable for dapper)
[11:36] <dr_willis_> but that can cause issues at times.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:37] <malc_> I have just installed kubuntu and amarok won't play music.  Xmms works fine but not amarok, I think it might be to do with the engine.  Anyone know how I fix this?
[11:37] <soulrider> my desktop wont respond :-/
[11:37] <soulrider> you mean MP3 ?
[11:37] <farous> dimsuz: sorry do not know
[11:38] <draik> soulrider, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[11:38] <dimsuz> farous: np, thank you very much for help! btw, can't find anything like "pin" in adept :)
[11:38] <soulrider> wont it close everything ?
[11:38] <dr_willis_> ya got to install some extra packatges for mp3s in amarok. and it crashes on me also
[11:38] <draik> soulrider, yes it will, but it will kill your session and start a new fresh session
[11:38] <soulrider> oh, ok
[11:39] <soulrider> brb :)
[11:39] <malc_> soulrider: yeah it is an mp3 file, I don't have any other formats that I can test though
[11:40] <farous> dimsuz: i thought you want to hold a specific package so there is an option like force ver. equivalent to pining
[11:40] <draik> soulrider, so did it work for you?
[11:41] <dimsuz> farous: ah, no :). Just want to install newer version. I almost found how to do that (in man). Thanks!
[11:41] <farous> dimsuz: good luck
[11:41] <soulrider> yes, it did, thanks!
[11:42] <dimsuz> farous: thanks!
[11:42] <draik> soulrider, np
[11:42] <farous> dimsuz: i normally add the new repos. update then type aptitude install foo. if foo is installed it will be the only one upgraded to the newest ver
[11:43] <farous> too late :)
[11:45] <w00t> hi
[11:45] <soulrider> whast XII ?
[11:46] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: you still in here?
[11:47] <Lunar_Raven> has anyone had trouble getting the nvidia 3d to work?  It says direct rendering is on, but cedega is telling me 3d isn't enabled
[11:47] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: can you give me the link again for your repos?
[11:47] <bl3ssing> why while I updated the Adept, when it is asking me May I update your system [Y/n]  ... I press Y and ... it is showing me Illegal answer?
[11:48] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Bookmark http://LinuxForDummies.org/
[11:48] <soulrider> i insatlled the nvidia drivers today
[11:48] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: It's in the Ubuntu and Kubuntu sections
[11:48] <wckdkl0wn> i had to just reinstall a min ago so i lost the bookmark lol
[11:48] <malc_> dr_willis_:  Do you know which extra packages those are?
[11:50] <bl3ssing> I try to full update Adept. What should I answer to this question: May I update your system? [Y/n]  ->> I've already typed y, but ... it is answering me: illegal answer. Why?
[11:50] <Hawkwind> Type Y or yes
[11:52] <w00t> hello?
[11:54] <ROngso> how do i install KDevelop
[11:54] <ROngso> sudo apt-get install KDevelop
[11:54] <ROngso> don't work
[11:54] <ROngso> can't find the pakage
[11:54] <Tm_T> "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3" ?
[11:54] <ROngso> got universe and all so i don no
[11:55] <wckdkl0wn> this might sound like a noob question but whats the command in terminal to edit the repos
[11:55] <ROngso> Tm_T: chears :)
[11:55] <Tm_T> wckdkl0wn: well, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" might help
[11:55] <cpk2> wckdkl0wn: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list would be easiest i think
[11:56] <Philip5> wckdkl0wn: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:56] <Tm_T> whoo, that makes triple
[11:56] <cpk2> kate is much more user friendly
[11:56] <Philip5> wckdkl0wn: or use the manage feature in adept
[11:56] <soulrider> im gonna download my first torrent with linux, wish me luck! :P
[11:57] <jhak88> anyone: How to install bootsplash (Upower) in Dapper???
[11:58] <draik> Has anyone here used QDvdAuthor?
[11:59] <ROngso> Tm_T: uah I just need to apt-get update , I think i did it the first time with Adept on so it didn't work
[11:59] <ROngso> all good now :)
[11:59] <Tm_T> :)
[12:00] <cpk2> !bootsplash
[12:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootsplash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:00] <cpk2> !info bootsplash
[12:00] <ubotu> Package bootsplash does not exist in dapper
[12:00] <cpk2> !info upower
[12:00] <ubotu> Package upower does not exist in dapper
[12:00] <fritsch> !info usplash
[12:00] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 196 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc sparc ia64 hppa)
[12:03] <alberto> hola
[12:03] <malc_> with apt-get I am trying to install libxine-codecs but it says it doesn't exist.  I have added the multiverse thing to my sources.......any idea how I can get this package?
[12:03] <alberto> how can i register my nick?
[12:04] <aliasfred> !register
[12:04] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:04] <peter_> hello
[12:05] <aliasfred> malc_: do 'apt-get update' and then retry
[12:05] <malc_> aliasfred I have tried that but it still hasn't worked......out of interest can you see it with your sources?
[12:06] <malc_> Perhaps I am hunting for soemthing that doesn't exist anymore
[12:06] <aliasfred> malc_: duynno i dont run ubuntu :)
[12:07] <cpk2> !info libxine-codecs
[12:07] <ubotu> Package libxine-codecs does not exist in dapper
[12:07] <cpk2> !info libxine-codec
[12:07] <ubotu> Package libxine-codec does not exist in dapper
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> !info libxine-extracodecs
[12:07] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:08] <cpk2> guess he was searching for something that doesnt exist =P