| kwwii | time for bed, see you all tomorrow | 12:07 |
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| troy_s | AndyFitz, greetings. | 01:11 |
| AndyFitz | g'day troy_s | 01:11 |
| troy_s | how are things with you? | 01:11 |
| AndyFitz | pretty good. its been a full weekend. | 01:12 |
| troy_s | have you been busy? we could probably use your help as soon as Frank culls the various directions for production. | 01:12 |
| troy_s | Hopefully everyone will engage in the 'mix and match' of production, but I fear we will really need everyone to step up if they can. | 01:12 |
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| mhz | hi there | 01:18 |
| mhz | anyone here at this hour? | 01:18 |
| AndyFitz | troy_s , I don't have the time free id like to have. but I'll be helping out here and there | 01:20 |
| troy_s | AndyFitz, anything is helpful. | 01:21 |
| troy_s | limited resources on all of our parts... | 01:21 |
| troy_s | mhz, north americans :) | 01:21 |
| === mhz bb in 10 miutes | ||
| mhz | What do you guys use to print CD labels? | 01:48 |
| mhz | I desgin them on Inkscape | 01:48 |
| mhz | but i do not print from it | 01:48 |
| mhz | I set the letter size page according to the paper size I'll use for cd labels, but when I print, both CD label sizes get reduced and so do margins :( | 01:49 |
| troy_s | mhz, you will need to set your page constraints properly | 02:03 |
| troy_s | so that your printer prints accurately | 02:03 |
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| mhz | troy_s: and is it normal that page constraints reduce the CD lable sizes ? | 05:06 |
| troy_s | mhz, to the best of my knowledge, yes. | 05:37 |
| troy_s | your printer has built in page constraints in addition to those... there is a test somewhere. | 05:37 |
| mhz | puf! | 05:38 |
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| mhz | troy_s: any other app to make cd lables than inkscape and that lets me organize the measures between the 2 CD lables on letter size page? (that has no constraints)? | 06:09 |
| Madpilot | mhz, there's gLabels, but it's got fairly limited drawing tools. Excellent printing support, though | 06:14 |
| mhz | Madpilot: yeah..but not good enough :( | 06:25 |
| mhz | how do professionals do when they use inkscape? | 06:25 |
| mhz | or gimp? | 06:25 |
| Madpilot | not sure | 06:34 |
| troy_s | mhz there is some label prog out there | 06:43 |
| troy_s | glabel maybe? | 06:43 |
| troy_s | can't remember... do an apt-cache search label | 06:44 |
| troy_s | and it would probably work. | 06:44 |
| mhz | hehehe, I already did | 06:44 |
| mhz | long ago, on friday | 06:44 |
| troy_s | was it glable mhz? | 06:44 |
| mhz | I even installed some perl based program | 06:44 |
| mhz | glables | 06:44 |
| troy_s | and it didn't work? | 06:44 |
| troy_s | mhz what type of printer do you have? | 06:45 |
| mhz | troy_s: it works to print lables | 06:45 |
| mhz | howver, you can't do what gimp or inkscape does | 06:45 |
| troy_s | because i know there is a way to set your printer size so that cd labels come out 1:1 | 06:45 |
| troy_s | hrm... can't you import a | 06:45 |
| troy_s | file into it and print them to cd? | 06:45 |
| mhz | so, you gotta import a png or jpg from glables | 06:46 |
| mhz | and then it sucks | 06:46 |
| mhz | so, my question is... There must be a FLOSS way to get professional work print | 06:47 |
| mhz | or Canonical makes and sends non-FLOSS professional artwork to print? | 06:47 |
| mhz | (maybe the latter) :( | 06:48 |
| troy_s | well most of the official stuff is merely calibrated to page size | 06:49 |
| troy_s | your printer has adjustable output margins (all relative) and you can set those | 06:49 |
| troy_s | so if you align your crosshatches, you are good to go | 06:50 |
| troy_s | but you do need to calibrate your printer so that 1 inch in gimp/inkscape == one inch of print. | 06:50 |
| troy_s | i remember this because i got into dabbling with that a little bit when i was trying to calibrate my printer a while back. | 06:50 |
| mhz | troy_s: thx | 06:55 |
| mhz | troy_s: so you print from inkscape ? | 06:55 |
| troy_s | basically, your calibrations are your weak link in every tech gap | 06:55 |
| troy_s | whether you want your visual 'blue' to be blue on print/screen/whatever | 06:56 |
| troy_s | or your x size to be x size -- all comes down to calibration | 06:56 |
| troy_s | and there just isn't a magic bullet (despite what a lot of commercial tools would like you to believe) | 06:56 |
| troy_s | generally, i always take my target and compare direct results | 06:56 |
| mhz | troy_s: please clarify this to me.... If I make a PDF from my SVG, should this PDF still keep CD label size? or the constraints will always play a role there? | 06:56 |
| troy_s | mhz: who is printing it? target? | 06:57 |
| mhz | target | 06:57 |
| troy_s | target? | 06:57 |
| troy_s | as in the company? what is your printing target? | 06:57 |
| mhz | If I make a PDF from my SVG, should this PDF still keep CD label size while printing? | 06:57 |
| mhz | oh, I am printing | 06:58 |
| troy_s | mhz: once the program says 'print x inches' to your printer it is out of its hands | 06:58 |
| mhz | :( | 06:58 |
| troy_s | now you COULD kludge it, and fix the source so that it matches dest | 06:58 |
| mhz | hehehe | 06:58 |
| troy_s | or you could set your printer details | 06:58 |
| troy_s | so that it works. | 06:58 |
| troy_s | let me see if i can dig up the links on page constraints | 06:59 |
| mhz | thx | 06:59 |
| mhz | troy_s: well, my main concern is that if I made this SVG (Cd label) for the LoCo, and they all use diff printers and diff CD paper brands | 07:00 |
| mhz | then, we'd all get crazy | 07:00 |
| mhz | One excellent thing about inkscape is that it has very detailed rule to use and measure paper layout of elements on page | 07:01 |
| troy_s | indeed. | 07:01 |
| mhz | so, all LoCo memebers could easily adapt such file to specific needs | 07:01 |
| troy_s | basically, if your printer is calibrated and you have set ink or gimp to the proper sizes, all is well. | 07:01 |
| troy_s | yep. | 07:01 |
| troy_s | but you need to calibrate your local printer to make sure one inch is one inch | 07:01 |
| troy_s | and there is a way to do that... | 07:01 |
| mhz | okis | 07:01 |
| mhz | anohter thing I noticed is that default paper for CD labels is usally ONLY or mostly, the Avery brand. Why would that be so? | 07:02 |
| mhz | is that really so typical? | 07:03 |
| troy_s | what make of printer is it? | 07:05 |
| troy_s | the sizes are sort of set by the mainstream -- for example if you go to staples you can get the no-name version of avery brand labels... | 07:05 |
| mhz | HP | 07:05 |
| troy_s | hp has a raw format for precise printing... | 07:05 |
| troy_s | pbm2ppm has more info | 07:05 |
| mhz | troy_s: ok, i'll google for pbm2ppm | 07:06 |
| troy_s | http://www.shallowsky.com/software/cdplugins/ | 07:07 |
| troy_s | mhz, try that page too... it has gimp specific plugins. | 07:09 |
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| msikma | Hey all | 10:58 |
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| msikma | Where is Frank Schoep? He on vacation? | 02:07 |
| msikma | I sent him a mail but haven't heard from him. | 02:08 |
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| lapo | hi | 03:31 |
| troy_s | greetings lapo | 03:32 |
| troy_s | msikma, Frank is darn busy. | 03:33 |
| troy_s | msikma, I am sure he will get back to you when he can. | 03:34 |
| lapo | yo troy_s | 03:37 |
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| newz2000 | Anyone here good at making icons for Windows programs? (ico files) | 04:41 |
| newz2000 | Bazaar is having troubles. | 04:41 |
| msikma_ | If all you want is an ICO file as simple as possible, you can just make a BMP and rename it. The top-left pixel is the transparency value. | 04:51 |
| msikma_ | At least, that worked back in Windows 95... | 04:51 |
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| andreasn | newz2000: I think you can create ico-files with gimp, otherwise I would recommend microangelo | 05:00 |
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| cbx33 | ping troy_s | 08:16 |
| cbx33 | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds | 08:17 |
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| lapo | hi | 09:59 |
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| FiberOptics | Hello | 10:41 |
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