[12:01] <EpP> Seveas, Sorry i had to tend to my pet. I never got what you said.
[12:01] <bayzin> please can one someonehelp me
[12:01] <nalioth> EpP: wep and wga are not really well supported in linux, much less with apple products
[12:01] <martinvdk> Does MACROMEDIA FLASH work in linux on firefox/opera??
[12:01] <Crescendo> I can't get audio on my flash installation... it was working before.
[12:02] <Crescendo> Yes, marcin_ant
[12:02] <nalioth> !flash > martinvdk
[12:02] <Crescendo> Erm.  martinvdk
[12:02] <Crescendo> ~_~
[12:02] <gnomefreak> martinvdk: yes unless your on ppc or 64bit
[12:02] <flyingmonkey350> phone call.....did i miss anyting?
[12:02] <martinvdk> I can't get it to work :S
[12:02] <bayzin> can some one help me  install my nintedo wifi usb connector on ubuntu
[12:02] <gnomefreak> martinvdk: read what ubotu sent you
[12:03] <martinvdk> thank you very much gnomefreak :D
[12:03] <Flannel> bayzin: Looks like i's a RT2570.  It's doable, this page may be of some help. http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/rt2570.php
[12:03] <offroadgeek> is 'make bzImage' similar to 'make-kpkg'?  if not, what's the difference?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ty nalioth ;)
[12:03] <Flannel> bayzin: that is, if it doesn't work out of the box
[12:04] <Far^Side> so is there any chanes that 2.6.18 will be backported to Dapper or Edgy, when it has been released?
[12:04] <EpP> nalioth, so there is no way?
[12:04] <Sithik> hey all.. couple quick questions before i pop in the ubuntu cd
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Far^Side: no
[12:04] <nalioth> EpP: if you work hard enough, there is always a way, but for most of us, no.
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Far^Side: they dont backport kernels
[12:04] <EpP> nalioth, hmmm
[12:04] <Asc> I think bzimage outputs a bzimage and modules folder, offroadgeek: while make-kpkg gives you a .dpkg that installs the kernel and modules automagically
[12:04] <Sithik> since this will be for my fiance (who desperately needs some microsoft compatability (looking at CrossOver Office?), I was wondering if anyone got Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing working?
[12:04] <mrcoyote> yep
[12:05] <Asc> move that name: back a sentenst....
[12:05] <flyingmonkey350> well i found the samba book so i think ill step out for a bit and read that and then come back with my questions.....im sure ill have questions :P......thanks for the help always good to find a helpful community
[12:05] <Asc> sentence, even :\
[12:05] <Far^Side> gnomefreak, ok
[12:05] <Flannel> Sithik: google might be of more help
[12:05] <carthik> Does anyone know of any apps/tools to "normalize" the volume in all my music files (mp3/ogg)?
[12:05] <offroadgeek> Asc: thanks
[12:06] <nalioth> carthik: i believe it's called "normalize"
[12:06] <Sithik> well.. heres a silly question... since ubuntu is the "linux for human beings" what makes it more of a desktop (entry level linux) compared to say redhat/fedora/mandrake, etc? THIS IS NOT A FLAME STARTER, LEGIT QUESTION
[12:06] <nalioth> Sithik: watch your caps please
[12:06] <carthik> nalioth, really? (sorry for asking such a stupid question then - me goes looking)
[12:07] <nalioth> Sithik: you might ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <Sithik> nalioth no, i was merely trying to point out that is was not intended to start flames
[12:07] <nalioth> Sithik: understood, but it's still a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <offroadgeek> Asc: would it hurt if I do both?  I've never booted into a bzimage... but I have done (I think successfully) installed a newly compiled kernel via make-kpkg via the .deb it makes
[12:07] <sehute> carthik: apt-cache search normalize
[12:08] <carthik> yeah Sithik come on over to ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <fatih> hallo
[12:08] <mantono> I just updated to the latest 686-kernel on my ubuntu-server and now doesn't X work (it says it can not find the nvidia module). I got nvidia-glx installed and everything worked before.
[12:08] <janito> hi
[12:08] <janito> heeeeeeeeeeelp
[12:09] <fatih> hallo
[12:09] <anhra> hi
[12:09] <Asc> offroadgeek: The end result is pretty much the same, just that with bzimage you have to install the stuff manually.  make-kpkg is easier.
[12:09] <Flannel> janito: we can't help you until you ask a question
[12:09] <offroadgeek> Asc: thanks, again!
[12:11] <janito> i have problems with midi out port :S o como se escriba no hablo ingles :S
[12:11] <mantono> Isn't anyone else here running ubuntu-server with X?
that page is really confisuing me i have no idea what it wants me to do
[12:11] <nalioth> !es > janito
[12:11] <HnH> mantono: I did the other way
[12:11] <HnH> installed desktop, then removed things I don't need
[12:11] <mantono> HnH: what do you mean?
[12:12] <HnH> and installed things I need :>
[12:12] <mantono> HnH: well, that's also a way
[12:12] <erUSUL> mantono: you have to 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[12:12] <cheatersrealm> so I was dragging my top panel (the one with the applications and such) and it got turned into a small icon with just the ubuntu icon, and I can't get anything except for applications.  anyone know how to move it back to a regular sized panel?
[12:12] <HnH> someone got experience in tweaking vsftpd?
[12:12] <mantono> erUSUL: already tried that
[12:13] <abo> I hate when these things happen!! I lost the sound in Ubuntu, I was installing ntfs-fuse and setting it, and rebooted and no sound!!!
[12:13] <Towering> ok, i'm at a loss, how do you unhide files in ubuntu?
[12:13] <abo> can anyone help me get the sound back in ubuntu?
[12:13] <nalioth> !sound > abo
[12:13] <frying_fish> Towering: how are they hidden?
[12:13] <sehute> abo: did you change kernel and/or try changing the volume?
[12:13] <frying_fish> if they are just the .foo then just do "mv .foo foo"
[12:14] <bayzin>  <Flannel>that page is really confisuing me i have no idea what it wants me to do
[12:14] <HnH> Can someone give tutorial link of making virtual users under vsftpd?
[12:14] <Towering> i can't see them when going through the File Browser window like you can in windows
[12:14] <Flannel> bayzin: well, you'll have to compile some drivers.  Essentially. again, unless it works out of the box.  Actually, this appears that it might work.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846  That'll be more step-by-step.  Might not necessarily work with the nintendo one, but try doing that, then if it doesnt work, go back and try and understand that oter page
[12:14] <erUSUL> Towering: unhide?? filenames with a starting dot are hide the others no
[12:14] <Flannel> bayzin: you already said that
[12:14] <abo> sehute, didn't change the kernel, didn't touch the disks no...
[12:14] <Flannel> Towering: View > show hidden files
[12:14] <nalioth> Towering: be very careful renaming .files
[12:14] <DaReD3ViL> i need a driver for  wmp54g
[12:14] <DaReD3ViL> linksys*
[12:14] <Towering> i know about the renaming and all, i just want to see files
[12:14] <Flannel> Towering: don't ever rename things, that changes their filename, and things wont work
[12:15] <nalioth> !wireless > DaReD3ViL
[12:15] <Towering> yeah.. i know
[12:15] <DaReD3ViL> !wireless  wmp54g
[12:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about wireless  wmp54g - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:15] <Towering> i'm just trying to find things that wine installs, but they're always hidden
[12:15] <nalioth> DaReD3ViL: look at your private messages, please
[12:15] <sehute> HnH: http://www.google.com/search?q=%20tutorial%20link%20of%20making%20virtual%20users%20under%20vsftpd
[12:15] <Flannel> Towering: right, you need to go to view > show hidden files
[12:16] <Towering> thx.. that's all i wanted/needed to know, for now
[12:16] <sehute> abo: tried changing the volume?
[12:16] <DaReD3ViL> uh, okay
[12:16] <abo> sehute, what do u mean changing the volume, like the disks? or what exaclty?
[12:17] <cheatersrealm> hey, fuse seems to be working with ntfs-3g
[12:17] <cheatersrealm> huzzah
[12:17] <HnH> sehute: very funny.
[12:17] <nalioth> abo: the volume on your panel (in software)
[12:17] <Zyfo> I've got 2 ext3 spaces, one where my root is and one free. How do I make Ubuntu understand that I want the free one to be my /home?
[12:18] <yipe> how can I make a video take up less room?
[12:18] <abo> sehute, nalioth, no I didn't change the volume
[12:18] <Flannel> Zyfo: you'd have to mount it there
[12:18] <sehute> abo: no, the sound volume, like alsamixer, gnome-volume-control, kmix or xfce4-mixer
[12:18] <yipe> it's a very large video, 108mbs, and youtube only allows 100mb maximum
[12:18] <soundray> Zyfo: you need a line in /etc/fstab that ensures that it's mounted as your /home
[12:18] <sehute> abo: (doubleclick the little speaker-icon and play some music)
[12:18] <Flannel> yipe: compress it? reencode it at different quality/framerate/etc
[12:18] <Zyfo> ok, thanks.
[12:18] <yipe> yeah, but what can I use to do that Flannel
[12:19] <abo> sehute, nalioth, now if double click on the sound icon I get an error message: "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[12:19] <sehute> HnH: I didn't mean it as a joke
[12:19] <Zyfo> Is there a way I can login as root in GUI so I can change names and stuff?
[12:19] <Flannel> yipe: no idea, search the cache for some reencoders, there's plenty, depending on your formats
[12:19] <soundray> Zyfo: no, you use sudo for that
[12:19] <sehute> abo: try removing arts and installing esound
[12:19] <Zyfo> soundray, can I just edit that btw?
[12:19] <soundray> !tell Zyfo about sudo
[12:19] <Zyfo> I know about sudo but that's terminal, no?
[12:19] <yipe> it's in avi
[12:20] <sehute> abo: does lspci include your soundcard on the list?
[12:20] <nalioth> Zyfo: not recommend that you do that
[12:20] <Zyfo> if I login in terminal I still won't be logged in in naut
[12:20] <sehute> abo: does lsmod include your soundcard on the list?
[12:20] <nalioth> Zyfo: not recommend to log in as root
[12:20] <soundray> Zyfo: when you call up programs in System-Administration, those use gksudo (graphical version)
[12:20] <sehute> abo: is alsa-utils installed?
[12:20] <HnH> sehute: I've searched there, nothing really usefull there. The only thing I fould is http://viki.brainsware.org/VirtualUsers
[12:20] <Zyfo> what's the commands to edit files in terminal then?
[12:20] <HnH> but it's for freebsd
[12:20] <sehute> HnH: okay, sorry I don't know of any other sites
[12:20] <soundray> Zyfo: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:20] <HnH> Zyfo: nano
[12:20] <Zyfo> aha like that, thanks soundray
[12:20] <yipe> what format will come out smaller than /avi?
[12:21] <Zyfo> HnH, what's the difference?
[12:21] <yipe> .avi*
[12:21] <sehute> HnH: (you wouldn't believe how many people asks questions without googling)
[12:21] <soundray> Zyfo: nano runs inside the terminal
[12:21] <HnH> Zyfo: nano is a console editor
[12:21] <abo> sehute: sudo apt-get remove arts?, no alsa there
[12:21] <Zyfo> ah, but gedit can't run in terminal can it? :p
[12:21] <HnH> gedit - graphical
[12:21] <Zyfo> kk I see, thanks
[12:21] <abo> sehute, I'm sure I used to have alsa
[12:21] <sehute> abo: start Synaptic packagemanagement
[12:21] <Flannel> Zyfo: you can start it from a terminal, 'gksudo gedit [filename] 
[12:21] <sehute> abo: remove arts
[12:21] <cga> !help
[12:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:22] <soundray> ubotu, all-knowing?
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about all-knowing? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:22] <abo> sehute:  sudo apt-get remove arts
[12:22] <soundray> :)
[12:22] <sehute> abo: install esound alsa-oss alsa-tools alsa-base alsamixergui
[12:23] <sehute> abo: okay, if you don't like synaptic better
[12:23] <HnH> some1 know where's pam_mysql.so located in ubuntu?
[12:23] <abo> sehute, something weird I can't find synaptic!!
[12:23] <sehute> abo: is your system completely hosed? :)
[12:23] <nalioth> !apt-file > HnH
[12:23] <Flannel> abo: are you on KDE?
[12:23] <sehute> abo: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop alsamixergui alsa-tools alsa-oss esound alsa-base
[12:23] <sehute> abo: (if you use xubuntu, else install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop or whatever)
[12:24] <abo> Flannel, I'm on ubuntu, I was playing around installing xubuntu-desktop, could that be the problem?
[12:25] <Flannel> abo: nah.  If you cant find it in a menu, you can at least just run "gksudo synaptic" in a terminal, and that'll start it.
[12:25] <sehute> abo: do you use dapper?
[12:25] <sehute> abo: are you in a gui?
[12:25] <abo> when I do sudo something... nothing runs!!!!
[12:26] <abo> sehute I'm in gnome
[12:26] <sehute> abo: alt+f2
[12:26] <sehute> abo: gksudo nice synaptic
[12:26] <sehute> abo: does it work?
[12:26] <abo> sehute,The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[12:26] <sehute> abo: alt+f2
[12:26] <sehute> abo: gnome-terminal
[12:27] <sehute> abo: sudo -s
[12:27] <sehute> abo: does that work?
[12:27] <sehute> abo: how about su -
[12:27] <Flannel> sehute: su wont work unless he has root set.  And, wait for his responses before flooding him commands ;)
[12:27] <nalioth> sehute: we don't su in ubuntu, sudo -i is more correct
[12:27] <sehute> nalioth: but if sudoers is borked, then?
[12:27] <abo> sehute, something isn't screwed,  su asks for a password,
[12:27] <nalioth> sehute: if sudo is borked, we can help him fix it
[12:27] <sehute> Flannel: yeye
[12:27] <abo> sehute, which password should I use? the same as my login?
[12:27] <Agrajag> sehute: root doesn't have a password, su will do no good
[12:28] <nalioth> abo: correct, use your regular user pass with sudo
[12:28] <sehute> nalioth: how are you going to help him fix sudo without being root?
[12:28] <Flannel> abo: you won't be able to use it.  What errors do the sudo commands help?
[12:28] <Flannel> sehute: recovery console
[12:28] <sehute> abo: no password
[12:28] <soundray> sehute: how about you sit back and watch?
[12:28] <sehute> soundray: no
[12:28] <Flannel> sehute: unless he has a root password set, then it gets magnitudes more difficult
[12:28] <soundray> sehute: suit yourself
[12:28] <sehute> soundray: yes
[12:28] <abo> Flannel,sehute, su didn't work with my passowrd, sudo isn't giving any error message but is not doing anything
[12:29] <Flannel> abo: right, su doesn't work on ubuntu
[12:29] <sehute> abo: did the prompt change to "#"?
[12:29] <jesspher> does anybody kjnow how to configure wine the right way?
[12:29] <abo> sehute, no
[12:29] <nalioth> abo: what were you trying to do again?
[12:29] <nalioth> jesspher: you might ask in #winehq
[12:29] <davey_> how can I turn off the fraim buffer with out going thew the whole config prosses
[12:30] <abo> nalioth, I thought there is a problem with my sound system, I can't get sounds, but it seems something wrong with my permissions
[12:30] <nalioth> abo: did you follow the howto ubotu sent you in a PM ?
[12:30] <Warbo> Hi. I can't get many programs to run (I am currently in a failsafe terminal), there are no consoles on ctrl-alt-F1>F6, the messages on ctrl-alt-F8 have stopped at "Starting DHCP server" and "top" says "iwlist" is taking 95%+ of my CPU. I can't use sudo, it just waits without asking for a password, so how can I kill iwlist?
[12:30] <tuxtux> bye at all
[12:30] <Zyfo> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /old <- what does /old stand for here? is it /old at root or what?
[12:31] <abo> nalioth, I couldn't find multimedia system selector
[12:31] <Ronz> Zyfo, old is where it will mount to
[12:31] <Warbo> Zyfo: That puts the contents of /dev/hda1 into the folder /old
[12:31] <Flannel> Zyfo: that's your mount point, cd /old will get you to hda1
[12:31] <sehute> nalioth: his sudo doesn't work. It seems like many, many packages are missing
[12:31] <Zyfo> woha, 3 answers
[12:31] <davey_> can someone help me disable the framebuffer?
[12:31] <soundray> Warbo: you could powercycle
[12:31] <davey_> anyone have any genral idea where it is in xorg.conf
[12:31] <nalioth> abo: can you join us in #ubuntu-classroom please?
[12:32] <Agrajag> davey_: the framebuffer is not part of xorg
[12:32] <davey_> agrajag, ! then how do I find it to disable it?!?
[12:32] <Agrajag> it's loaded when the kernel loads, you can chage the kernel commandline in grub and add nosplash nofb
[12:32] <Warbo> soundray: It does it at boot, there's no preventing it unless I uninstall whatever is causing it. I can't uninstall stuff since sudo isn't working (presumably since it is getting no cycles)
[12:32] <Zyfo> Warbo, ok but where is the /old located? is it a root or some subdir of home or media?
[12:32] <davey_> Agrajag, uhhh...... kernel commandline?
[12:33] <Agrajag> in the grub menu, choose your kernel and hit e
[12:33] <hchaudh1> hey all
[12:33] <Warbo> Zyfo: "/" is where everything is stored, so "/old" is directly in "/"
[12:33] <Zyfo> thats what I don't get, I've heard you shouldn't have any extra dirs at root, but it seems like it puts on here, no?
[12:33] <shiv> where are all the Program files located in linux to add it to the startup?
[12:33] <Agrajag> then choose the kernel commandline (the line starting with linux) and remove splash and add nosplash nofb
[12:33] <Zyfo> is that normal or should you put it in something like /mnt/data1?
[12:33] <davey_> Agrajag, ok then if I disable it do you think it will break anyting? becasue right onw my screen flickers a little bit someotimes and no one knows why so I was going to try that
[12:33] <Agrajag> then hit b to boot
[12:33] <erUSUL> shiv: what are you trying to do?
[12:33] <Agrajag> davey_: if you do it the way I just told you, it's temporary.
[12:33] <HnH> web@rg-soft:/etc$ sudo apt-get install apt-file
[12:33] <HnH>   ... 
[12:33] <HnH>   ... 
[12:33] <HnH> E:     apt-file
[12:33] <HnH> web@rg-soft:/etc$
[12:34] <soundray> Warbo: perhaps you need to boot from a live CD and disable the iwlist call from there
[12:34] <Agrajag> if it breaks, you just reboot and it'll load like normal
[12:34] <shiv> like add firefox to auto start on login
[12:34] <Ronz> to format my hard drive, i use fdisk, right?
[12:34] <Warbo> Zyfo: It is impossible to have more than one root directory, but making folders inside the root directory is not too bad. As long as you don't treat it as a general storage area like many Windows users treat C:\
[12:34] <Agrajag> if it works the way you want, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it permanent
[12:34] <DrBashir2> shiv:  system>preferences>sessions should be there somewhere
[12:34] <Zyfo> Warbo, I see, where would you keep them?
[12:34] <davey_> Agrajag, oh... alright I'll try it to see if it works good then i'll be back to check with you man thanks
[12:34] <soundray> Ronz: no, fdisk is for partitioning
[12:34] <Agrajag> your screen flickers in X?
[12:34] <Ronz> soundray, what do i use for formating /dev/sda1?
[12:34] <Agrajag> that's probably not the framebuffer but you can try it
[12:35] <soundray> Ronz: what type of filesystem do you want on it?
[12:35] <davey_> Agrajag, ya i've been here bfore
[12:35] <Agrajag> oh ok
[12:35] <davey_> Agrajag, it only does it SOMETIMES
[12:35] <shiv> DrBashir2: I know that, but don't know where to browse to add to the startup the desired prorams
[12:35] <erUSUL> shiv: add it to the session System>Preferences>sessions
[12:35] <Agrajag> well give that a shot anyway
[12:35] <davey_> Agrajag, ya thats what I thought
[12:35] <hchaudh1> I have a question about Compiz, ever since I installed it, my NetBeans IDE is not working. So, is there a way to turn off Compiz temporarily and then turn it back on again. I used the hotto on ubuntuforums by poofyhairguy to install it, and it runs with the "thefuture" command
[12:35] <Zyfo> Warbo, but wait a second, if it will be a root does that mean it will take up space of the root partition I have created or what, I guess not? :p
[12:35] <nalioth> HnH: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin.
[12:35] <Warbo> Zyfo: I keep my stuff in /home/chris. I have mounted a huge partition in /home/chris/Files, which lets me keep my music and stuff seperate from my preferences (which are directly in /home/chris) so I can use it on loads of distros without permission screw ups (NEVER try to use the same home folder across multiple distros, it won't work :) )
[12:35] <Ronz> soundray, im gonna use it for my music and software. i will ALWAYS be playing music from it. what would you reccomend?
[12:35] <Ronz> soundray, i used to use reiserfs with gentoo
[12:35] <DrBashir2> shiv: justp put firefox, nothing else. It will find it
[12:35] <Flannel> Zyfo: no, mount points are just folders, it doesn't take up space, just 'attaches' itself
[12:36] <axxel> i have a problem, the livecd won't start after it has booted, anyone help me..?
[12:36] <shiv> I see great! Thanks
[12:36] <Zyfo> Flannel and Warbo, I see, thanks
[12:36] <dylan_> hello peeps
[12:36] <dylan_> i'm getting a rather strange firefox bug
[12:36] <gregg__> Ronz: use ext3 for compatibility
[12:36] <dylan_> when visiting sites with javascript
[12:36] <DrBashir2> shiv: np, just learned that myself a day or 2 ago :)
[12:36] <Ronz> ok gregg__ . how do i go about formatting it though?
[12:36] <dylan_> anyone able to help me?
[12:36] <shiv> DrBashir2: are u a medical dr?
[12:37] <Ronz> nope dylan_ , no one is here. =P
[12:37] <axxel> iv'e booted the livecd from 3 different computers but it wont start..
[12:37] <dylan_> course not ;)
[12:37] <erUSUL> !anyone > dylan_
[12:37] <Ronz> all 825 of us are idle
[12:37] <soundray> Ronz: ext3 is standard -- for that you would use 'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1'. For reiser, you would use either mkreiserfs or mkreiser4, but I don't know the syntax. Try man mkreiserfs
[12:37] <dylan_> here's the terminal output:
[12:37] <dylan_> http://reversial.com/err.txt
[12:37] <mantono> anyone else having problem booting X on server-install with latest kernel?
[12:37] <DrBashir2> shiv: No, Docter Bashir from startrek deep space nine :)
[12:37] <dylan_> whenever i visit a site with JS, it just quits on me
[12:37] <shiv> lol
[12:37] <shiv> ok
[12:37] <dylan_> no questions asked
[12:37] <axxel> Ronz, That's too bad, because i also need help :/
[12:37] <gregg__> Ronz: there's a utility called mkfs.ext3
[12:37] <nalioth> !tell axxel about verify
[12:37] <Warbo> soundray: It is to do with my RaLink WiFi card. It did this when I plugged it in and booted (PCI), and I "solved" it by moving everything beginning with "iw" out of /sbin, then moved them back after booting. Since I haven't been at home for a week, this HD was booting fine in another computer without a WiFi card, I just forgot about the problem when I turned it on in my own computer just now. I would prefer to solve the proble
[12:37] <nalioth> axxel: you should verify (see the PM) and burn the image at less than 4xs
[12:38] <Ronz> aight, thanks soundray
[12:38] <Ronz> should i partition frist?
[12:38] <Ronz> *first
[12:38] <axxel> nalioth, So i'll have to burn my cd again? :/
[12:38] <soundray> Ronz: you have to, unless there is a partition already.
[12:38] <Ronz> ok. Thanks!  =)
[12:38] <nalioth> axxel: after you verify the md5sums, you should make sure you burn it at 4x or less
[12:38] <Ronz> lets hope i can get this bad boy back in working order..
[12:38] <yipe> does anyone know of a simple-to-use, GUI video re-encoder?
[12:39] <nalioth> yipe: transcode?
[12:39] <soundray> Warbo: I've got ralink working - are you on the latest kernel?
[12:39] <axxel> nalioth, Okay i see.. does it make any sense if i burn it at an CD-RW?
[12:39] <alienseer23> hello, if I am logged in to the console, how do I switch to root user, please?
[12:39] <htv8> how's configuring your internet/e-mail in ubuntu???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[12:39] <Warbo> yipe: There are some QT based ones for KDE. Search Google
[12:39] <htv8> does internet work immediately?
[12:39] <yipe> transcode is console-based
[12:39] <htv8> after installation?
[12:39] <nalioth> axxel: cd-r or cd-rw shouldn't make a diff, UNLESS the cd-rw has been used hundreds of times
[12:39] <Ronz> soundray, i get this when i go to fdisk the drive:  WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[12:39] <yipe> !encode
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about encode - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:39] <Warbo> soundray: No, 2.6.15-23-k7. Changing my kernel will require the creation of a new boot CD
[12:39] <yipe> darn
[12:39] <gregg__> alienseer23: use 'sudo' selectively for commands which require it, or 'sudo -s' to get a root shell
[12:40] <nalioth> yipe: aren't you supposed to be in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:40] <alienseer23> what about for configuring x config??
[12:40] <Ronz> gregg__, or sudo -i
[12:40] <nalioth> !tell alienseer23 about xcfg
[12:40] <yipe> am I?
[12:40] <alienseer23> it wouldn't let me
[12:40] <hchaudh1> alienseer: su <username> or if you are trying to execute something as a super user use sudo instead
[12:40] <htv8> how's configuring your internet/e-mail in ubuntu???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[12:40] <yipe> nope, I'm not
[12:40] <Paladine> alienseer you nvidia?
[12:40] <jesspher> how come i always fail  to download wine-dev to the repository?
[12:40] <jesspher> please help
[12:40] <alienseer23> yes
[12:40] <DrBashir2> !battery
[12:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about battery - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:40] <Asc> htv8: yes, internet works immediately, if your internet adapter is working.  Email is just as easy on windows.
[12:40] <Paladine> nvidia-xconfig
[12:40] <bayzin> i cant figure it out
[12:40] <DrBashir2> !power management
[12:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about power management - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:41] <Warbo> hchaudh1: "su" only works for root anyway, so to use it you have to "sudo su"
[12:41] <nalioth> !tell DrBashir2 about fishing
[12:41] <soundray> Ronz: maybe there isn't a partition table on it. Maybe try with gparted
[12:41] <yipe> I got in trouble in there from ompaul (for a perfectly good reason)
[12:41] <axxel> nalioth, Okay, it's been used about 2 times earlier, so i guess that's not the problen ;)
[12:41] <alienseer23> !xcfg
[12:41] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:41] <Paladine> alienseer sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:41] <nalioth> yipe: ok. you are not identifed.
[12:41] <Paladine> it will install nvidia-xconfig
[12:41] <hchaudh1> k, I would like to turn off compiz, how do I do that?
[12:41] <Paladine> and the official nvidia drivers
[12:41] <DrBashir2> uhm nalioth... you ok?
[12:41] <nalioth> alienseer23: what is wrong with your private message window?
[12:41] <erUSUL> Warbo: su can make you whatever user you want try 'sudo su <user>'
[12:41] <alienseer23> nal, dunno
[12:41] <yipe> now I am nalioth
[12:42] <Paladine> alienseer, then man nvidia-xconfig for the settings to pass from the command line
[12:42] <_keNzi> hi, anynone have installed modem Sagem F@st 800 ?
[12:42] <_keNzi> on Edgy Eft
[12:42] <Warbo> erUSUL: I know, but to "get root" by using su instead of sudo doesn't work, since you need to use sudo to run su anyway :)
[12:42] <erUSUL> _keNzi: go to #ubuntu+1
[12:42] <erUSUL> Warbo: right ;)
[12:42] <Warbo> _keNzi: I have written guides for both drivers for it, but for Dapper
[12:42] <davey_> I don't think I did it wight
[12:43] <Warbo> _keNzi: What kernel is Edgy using?
[12:43] <_keNzi> 2.6.17-5
[12:43] <davey_> I put in the line under the code because i didn't want to mess it up so I put "o" and then d and put in nofp
[12:43] <davey_> i mean nofb
[12:43] <hchaudh1> can anyone tell me how to turn off compiz
[12:43] <XVampireX>  Is 2.6.17 really faster?
[12:43] <Agrajag> davey_: anything you change there is tempporary. Go ahead and chage it
[12:43] <nikin> what is the password for sudo on liveCD?
[12:44] <Paladine> hchaudh1, reverse what you did to turn it on
[12:44] <DrBashir2> nalioth: Im not the type of person that would abuse stuff, I like this channel very much, and try to help people where I can
[12:44] <davey_> Agrajag, i did I added a line under it
[12:44] <_keNzi> nikin there is no password ;P
[12:44] <_keNzi> make sudo su -
[12:44] <waky> ^^
[12:44] <davey_> Agrajag, does that work or does it have to be on the kernal line?
[12:44] <Agrajag> davey_: put it on the kernel command line
[12:44] <Warbo> _keNzi: OK, you should have the ueagle-atm driver installed already (it was intorduced in 2.6.16). Go on the UsbAdslModem page of the community wiki (help.ubuntu.com/community) and follow the guide for ueagle-atm, but remember that you already have it installed (but you may not have the firmware)
[12:44] <nikin> _keNzi: thx
[12:44] <Agrajag> if it's not on the kernel command line, then it's not being passed to the kernel
[12:45] <Agrajag> you won't break ANYTHING. you can fill that line with gibberish and worst thing that happens is you hit reset and it goes back to normal.
[12:45] <davey_> Agrajag, alright... I'll be back I'm going to go put "nofb" and theres a part that says "splash" should I edit that ? I just want the minimum possible
[12:45] <_keNzi> thanx Warbo
[12:45] <Agrajag> make the splash part say nosplash
[12:45] <davey_> Agrajag, alright
[12:45] <Agrajag> I think bootsplash forces the fb to load
[12:45] <davey_> I'll be back then
[12:45] <Warbo> _keNzi: I need to write a bootup script for that page, but so far I have one working, but it doesn't accept "start" and "stop", which means it tries to connect at shutdown (and it includes a 1 minute wait when it connects :( )
[12:46] <shiv> Has anybody resoved the suspend issue? My screen remain blank when trying to wake up from suspend
[12:46] <soundray> Agrajag: I usually recommend adding kernel options to the #kopt line, to avoid changes getting lost during the next kernel update
[12:46] <Ronz> omg, my hard drive is BACK UP AND RUNNING
[12:46] <martinvdk> shiv: I GOT THE SAME PROBLEM
[12:46] <soundray> Ronz: well done. How?
[12:46] <Ronz> soundray, a few days ago it died. had fat32 on it
[12:47] <rexykik> backups ftw
[12:47] <Ronz> pulled what i could off of it, and use gparted to format it
[12:47] <Agrajag> soundray: he's doing this from grub, nothing will be saved anyway
[12:47] <Ronz> rexykik, i cant tell ya that enough. =P
[12:47] <martinvdk> Sometimes I can press ctrl+alt+F1, stop gdm, start gdm - and then it starts without I have to press and hold the off-button
[12:47] <jifix> i have been using ubuntu for long time since 4.10 and a few days ago i got a cd with ubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <soundray> Agrajag: okay, sorry, I missed that
[12:47] <Agrajag> I don't think the fb is his problem, but if this fixes it he can make it permanent later
[12:47] <Warbo> "  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[12:47] <Warbo>   5421 root      25   0  1724  456  376 R 86.0  0.1  23:56.62 iwlist" How do I stop iwlist hogging the CPU and stopping other stuff (like sudo) from working?
[12:47] <Ronz> martinvdk, when you push ctrl alt f1, you actually change desktops. thats why it will come up sometimes in the middle of the session
[12:48] <Ronz> martinvdk, if im not mistaking, ctrl alt f4 is the default one
[12:48] <martinvdk> yeah
[12:48] <Keddie> anyone using xgl?
[12:48] <Kr4t05> Keddie, me.
[12:48] <rsk> Keddie, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:48] <Keddie> rsk, thx
[12:48] <martinvdk> Ronz: and SOMETIMES it helps to adjust the screen brightness, or even to change workspace (ctrl+alt+right)!?!?
[12:48] <Keddie> Kr4t05, did you just install the package and that was it?
[12:49] <martinvdk> I'm on breezy though
[12:49] <soundray> Warbo: if you can't sudo, there is no way you can kill iwlist without forcing a shutdown.
[12:49] <nikin> what package do i have to make ? i ame using the live cd
[12:49] <Kr4t05> Keddie: no, it's more complex than that.
[12:49] <nikin> which package contains make and gcc?
[12:49] <soundray> nikin: build-essential
[12:49] <Agrajag> nikin: build-essential
[12:50] <Keddie> Kr4t05, I just tried Kororaa XGL live cd and it was great. I would like to get that with ubuntu
[12:50] <nalioth> Keddie: join #ubuntu-xgl fo taht
[12:50] <Warbo> soundray: Do you know if it is essential to my networking (I use wired and wireless)? Otherwise I might just move it out of $PATH from a LiveCD
[12:50] <jifix> i have been using ubuntu for long time since 4.10 and a few days ago i got a cd with ubuntu 6.06 and when i put the cd on my pc in order to install it the live cd cd started and then when it was to enter the gnome i hear the sound but the monitor says out of range and i cannot see nothing. Can i start the installaion only without to start the livecd? answer private please
[12:51] <nalioth> Warbo: you are in the livecd?
[12:51] <soundray> Warbo: I'm not sure, but since it's called automatically on boot, I would assume that it's needed during wireless setup.
[12:51] <Warbo> nalioth: No, I am in a failsafe terminal (but I have launched Fluxbox)
[12:51] <Kr4t05> Keddie: One moment.
[12:51] <davey_> I'm back, I don't know if it makes a diffrentce because the problem is very speratic
[12:51] <Kr4t05> Keddie: what type of graphics card do you have?
[12:51] <davey_> I mean it did flicker a little bit at diffrent spots but the same as it always does
[12:52] <Keddie> Nvidia 6600gt
[12:52] <Kr4t05> Ok
[12:52] <jifix> someone help me
[12:52] <jifix> i have been using ubuntu for long time since 4.10 and a few days ago i got a cd with ubuntu 6.06 and when i put the cd on my pc in order to install it the live cd cd started and then when it was to enter the gnome i hear the sound but the monitor says out of range and i cannot see nothing. Can i start the installaion only without to start the livecd? answer private please
[12:52] <davey_> I have no options to choise from and I'm using the proprietary ati drivers, that are bomb I got 3d on it man
[12:52] <nalioth> !tell jifix about repeat
[12:52] <nikin> there is no such package....
[12:52] <Agrajag> !info build-essential
[12:52] <Zyfo> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
[12:52] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:53] <Zyfo> oops, wrong, sorry
[12:53] <Agrajag> nikin: yes there is
[12:53] <soundray> nikin: then your repos aren't setup correctly
[12:53] <Warbo> jifix: There is now no "install" and "live" CDs, they have been combined into a single "desktop" CD. However, if you aren't bothered by the live bit and you just want to install, there is still a text-based CD called the "alternate" CD
[12:53] <DrBashir2> !tell DrBashir2 about repeat
[12:53] <erUSUL> jifix: you need the alternate cd
[12:53] <nalioth> DrBashir2: all you have to do is /msg ubotu FACTOID
[12:53] <davey_> Agrajag, I think I turned off the fb is there a way to check, and it doesn't seem much differnt
[12:54] <Agrajag> davey_: run lasmod|grep fb and see what's loaded
[12:54] <Agrajag> er
[12:54] <jifix> ok thanks but can i change the Hz of the live cd?
[12:54] <Agrajag> lsmod|grep fb
[12:54] <Kr4t05> Keddie: start here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[12:54] <DrBashir2> nalioth: cheers
[12:54] <mwe> davey_: ls /dev/fb*
[12:54] <Agrajag> see if fbcon or vga16fb are loaded
[12:54] <Keddie> Kr4t05, thx
[12:54] <Warbo> jifix: I think there is a "fialsafe" graphics mode, which I assume uses conservative settings
[12:54] <Warbo> *failsafe
[12:54] <davey_> mwe, it says no such file or directory
[12:55] <mwe> davey_: good
[12:55] <mwe> davey_: it's not enabled then
[12:55] <jifix> i happens the same there
[12:55] <jifix> with the old live cd everything was ok
[12:55] <Warbo> jifix: Are you REALLY bothered about using it as a LiveCD, or do you just want to install 6.06?
[12:55] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello - anyone running 64 bit system here?
[12:55] <davey_> mwe, remember that flickering problem, I was trying to get it to work agrajag helped me disable the frame buffer because I thought that might be the cause and I got the new ati binary drivers
[12:56] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: yes
[12:56] <davey_> sleeping_sloth, I am
[12:56] <mwe> davey_: oh yes
[12:56] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray, davey - do you have any issues with mozilla-mplayer?
[12:56] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: sry, haven't tried
[12:56] <davey_> mwe, blender runs with weird type everywhere and looks distroted, I don't know if thats tied to i but it used to not even start when i used the opensoure drivers
[12:56] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray, davey - I get multiple instances of the player
[12:56] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: ah
[12:57] <wthww> hello hello
[12:57] <davey_> Sleeping_sloth, never used it
[12:57] <Frankenstein> hi, can someone tell me what preloader is?
[12:57] <Sleeping_Sloth> davey: meh
[12:57] <Frankenstein> !preloader
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about preloader - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:57] <Agrajag> Sleeping_Sloth: doesn't mplayer rely pretty heavily on 32-bit binary windows codecs?
[12:57] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: go to "about:plugins" in the browser and see if you have multiple entries for movie files
[12:57] <Agrajag> you may need to run a 32-bit firefox
[12:57] <Warbo> davey_: Blender uses a 3D interface, which for me runs fine on DRI radeon driver, but on Nvidia it gradually turned pink every few minutes, then switched back to gret again. Pretty weird
[12:57] <Frankenstein> or install w32codecs
[12:57] <mwe> davey_: I don't think I can help you
[12:57] <Agrajag> w32codecs won't work on a 64-bit system
[12:57] <jifix> first i want to install but with the answer that you gave me before i think this wil be ok. But i want to use the live cd too in evergency setuation and to show new users.
[12:58] <Frankenstein> oh :(
[12:58] <nikin> i realy cant find that package
[12:58] <davey_> mwe, lol alright
[12:58] <Frankenstein> dont touch that 64 bit junk
[12:58] <arto> !devel
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about devel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:58] <arto> !dev
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:58] <jifix> they will work install them Agrajag
[12:58] <arto> what do devel files mean for any package?
[12:58] <mwe> arto: please /msg the bot
[12:58] <wthww> lol
[12:58] <davey_> Warbro, i know it looks pretty tight but it's like the fonts are all messed up or something
[12:58] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: I do
[12:58] <jifix> first i want to install but with the answer that you gave me before i think this wil be ok. But i want to use the live cd too in evergency setuation and to show new users.
[12:58] <Agrajag> arto: those are header files so you can compile a program against that library
[12:59] <Warbo> jifix: Well the alternate CD can install, and for LiveCD you can either use an older Ubuntu disc or use some other LiveCD like KNOPPIX for rescue situations. Since showing Ubuntu to other people will not be using your computer, the Ubuntu LiveCD will probably work on theirs
[12:59] <SeanTater> arto: usually the header file used in compiling sources
[12:59] <Agrajag> well, header files and static libs
[12:59] <mantono> Is there someone more having problems using OpenGL drivers (nvidia-glx) on server-install?
[12:59] <Sleeping_Sloth> agrajag: that mayb be the case, but there was a .deb in the 64 bit repositories, so I figured the libraries must have been compiled for 64 bit
[12:59] <SeanTater> arto: source code too
[12:59] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: then you have multiple instances of mplayerplug-in.so in the path that the browser searches for plugins.
[12:59] <arto> Agrajag, aha.. so in case of the ati fglrx driver package generated devel files.. are they needed for install?
[12:59] <mister_roboto> ubotu: tell me about pim
[12:59] <Agrajag> Sleeping_Sloth: they can't be recompiled, they're binaries lifted from windows systems
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about pim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:00] <Agrajag> They porbably work fine on a 64-bit system assuming you have a 32-bit mplayer installed
[01:00] <davey_> You know what, my laptop flickers when it gets really hot... that might be it
[01:00] <Sleeping_Sloth> agrajag: well, put it this way then :  "I got it from the repos"
[01:00] <Agrajag> arto: no
[01:00] <arto> Agrajag, SeanTater, thanks for response.
[01:00] <Agrajag> arto: at least I doubt it
[01:00] <jifix> i dont thing show and i want risk it. You know that people saw then they see that something is not working "f***g linux i will use windows"
[01:01] <nalioth> mister_roboto: /msg ubotu FACTOID
[01:01] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: sort your multiple plugins problem out first. I don't think this is a 64-bit issue.
[01:01] <Warbo> Frankenstein: Preloader starts commonly used programs at login, but in the background. That means that whenever you try to start them they will appear instantly, since they are already running. I know OpenOffice already has something like that, but Preloader is not in Ubuntu yet (I noticed it in the MOTU candidates yesterday)
[01:01] <alienseer23> !xcfg
[01:01] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:01] <shiv> is there any program in linux like deamon tools? Which can create virtual CD drives?
[01:01] <mister_roboto> nalioth: thanks!  :)
[01:01] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: after a closer look, I'm not so sure there is a problem
[01:01] <davey_> ok not imporatnt but if anyone knows, how do I make firefox in wine look pretty, it looks really bad because the type is all lame and stuff
[01:01] <mwe> shiv: you can mount an iso out of the box
[01:01] <Frankenstein> Warbo: i seen it in a ubuntu tutorial... my firefox loads superfast along with xmms and all my terminals
[01:02] <davey_> and I have to use the wine version because I like flash 9
[01:02] <shiv> mwe: how? just right click?
[01:02] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: I've installed mozilla-mplayer meantime. Can you point me to a page where you have the problem?
[01:02] <Leeif> hi. how do i install smart package manager?
[01:02] <mwe> shiv: I don't know about clicking. sudo mount -o loop /path/to/isofile /mnt should do it
[01:02] <jhasse> Can someone tell me, how i can continue a bittorrent download after a reboot??
[01:02] <nikin> ok i found it... now installing :D
[01:02] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: oh, do you mean it's fixed?
[01:02] <Sleeping_Sloth> any video on bbc - hang on
[01:03] <nalioth> jhasse: start it again
[01:03] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: no, sadly :p
[01:03] <Warbo> Frankenstein: I use so many programs every day, and very intensive ones like GIMP, Moho (animation), Bender, Inkscape, etc., I wouldn't really feel comfortable with them starting at login, since I would lose loads of RAM
[01:03] <nalioth> jhasse: it will pick up where it left off
[01:03] <jhasse> nalioth: i don't have the torrent-file anymore
[01:03] <nikin> !gimp
[01:03] <nalioth> jhasse: then you need to get it
[01:03] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[01:03] <jrib> cyber_brain_mfkg: did you figure the shortcuts out?
[01:03] <Warbo> jhasse: Make sure you save the ".torrent" file, and just double click it after rebooting
[01:03] <jhasse> nalioth: is there no other way?
[01:03] <nalioth> jhasse: not that i know of
[01:04] <Leeif> nalioth: hi again :p. how do i install smart package manager?
[01:04] <redcard> But, Warbo, you wouldn't need to put the process intensive ones in:)
[01:04] <jhasse> nalioth: ok, thx
[01:04] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: if you go to bbc.co.uk, in the sport section there is a 'watch/listen to BBC Sport'
[01:04] <Warbo> redcard: Then I wouldn't need to put ANYTHING in. The only things I use are resource hungry :)
[01:04] <nalioth> Sleeping_Sloth: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:05] <redcard> Warbo: I'd think something like mail.. or GAIM.. would slide in there for me
[01:05] <Sleeping_Sloth> nalioth: this isnt off-topic
[01:05] <Leeif> nalioth: are you there?
[01:05] <davey_> alright people I'm going thanks everyone that helped so much!
[01:05] <nalioth> Sleeping_Sloth: the beeb and sports are offtopic here
[01:05] <Sleeping_Sloth> nalioth: is fixing an mplyaer plugin problem off-topic???
[01:05] <soundray> nalioth: we're reproducing a problem he's having.
[01:05] <Warbo> Sleeping_Sloth: I have started using bbcworld.com/click rather than bbc.co.uk/click since their embedded realplayer player no longer gives a direct link for me to open the movie in Totem. The bbcworld site doesn't use the embedded player
[01:05] <takitus> I am having some trouble getting my nvidia drivers to function properly... can anyone help me out?
[01:06] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: did you pick wma or real?
[01:06] <Leeif> nalioth: lol
[01:06] <orbital04> Is this for developers only, or can I ask stupid user questions here also?
[01:06] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray:.... I forget - real I *think*
[01:06] <Warbo> redcard: GAIM is in my gnome-session startup anyway :)
[01:06] <redcard> Warbo: Hehe :)  It should be in mine :P
[01:06] <redcard> Actually.. no it shouldn't.  I never really log out
[01:06] <Warbo> orbital04: It is for support and users. #ubuntu-devel is for developers, go ahead and let us laugh. Sorry :)
[01:07] <nalioth> orbital04: there are no stupid users, and yes this is the Ubuntu support channel
[01:07] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: server doesn't seem to respond
[01:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: are you in the US?
[01:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: I think it *may* only be available to UK users....
[01:07] <Warbo> orbital04: It just seems a little "in depth" since easy problems are fixed right away, and only the really complicated ones hang around :)
[01:08] <orbital04> I can't find the gstreamer plugins to make my rhythmbox play mp3's in the multi or universe repositories, boo hoo
[01:08] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: no
[01:08] <Leeif> how do i install s.m.a.r.t. package manager?
[01:08] <Warbo> orbital04: They are called "gstreamer0.10-<something>" Are you sure you have Universe and Multiverse, and not just backports Universe and Multiverse? (a common mistake)
[01:08] <Agrajag> orbital04: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: well, I've got the content ok
[01:09] <Agrajag> also gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[01:09] <Agrajag> the multiverse one probably includes non-Free stuff
[01:09] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: can you play http://www.soundray.org/mri_mh_movie.mpg ?
[01:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: hold on
[01:09] <mister_roboto> Leeif: apt-cache search --names-only smart
[01:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: I get 3 instances on bbc
[01:10] <mister_roboto> Leeif: smartpm - An alternative package manager that works with dpkg/rpm
[01:10] <takitus> anyone know anything about installing nvidia drivers?
[01:10] <orbital04> i have the list of plugins, i should double check i'm listing all the repositories,
[01:10] <Leeif> thanks roboto
[01:10] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: I get 2 or 3 sound channels
[01:10] <JJman100> use automatrix auto installer for Nvidia drivers...
[01:10] <anachronoks_> Hello, I installed Ubuntu on an unused HD and when I restarted.. LILO isn't finding my XP drive. Anyone know how I can get back to it?
[01:10] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: sounds like a very, very bad echo
[01:10] <takitus>  jjman100 where do i find that
[01:10] <mwe> !automatix
[01:11] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:11] <takitus> jjman from pittsburgh?
[01:11] <DrBashir2> !nvidia
[01:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:11] <JJman100> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190025
[01:11] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: and no video (thats all on bbc) - but on your example... the video plays (but there is no sound)
[01:12] <JJman100> this will shwo you how to install automatrix which gives a number of easy-to-install pacakges including MP3, video codecs etc.
[01:12] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: it doesn't have any
[01:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: then it works :)
[01:12] <anachronoks_> I can't get to my XP hardrive.. help?
[01:12] <takitus> jjman100 you from pittsburgh?
[01:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: do you have a working example with sound?
[01:12] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: blame the bbc?
[01:12] <jrib> anachronoks_: you just want to mount it?
[01:12] <JJman100> no, Canvey Island UK
[01:12] <root___> does ubuntu hae the mp3 codec installed by default?
[01:12] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: no
[01:12] <jrib> root___: no
[01:12] <jrib> !mp3 > root___
[01:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: never! :p
[01:12] <mwe> did the channel policy about automatix change or did someone mess with the factoid?
[01:12] <Agrajag> root___: no, it's not legally able to
[01:13] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: I should really add a crunching sound to the brain one ;)
[01:13] <anachronoks_> root___: That's a start but I can't boot to it either
[01:13] <jrib> mwe: changed, it's under new development
[01:13] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray:  nice work btw
[01:13] <root___> oh, sorry guys
[01:13] <wthww> lol
[01:13] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: let me see if there's a non-bbc sound and video stream that breaks
[01:13] <Ronz> haha
[01:13] <Agrajag> IRCing as root, tsk tsk
[01:13] <wthww> i had to sudo irssi. i must have irssi
[01:14] <Agrajag> why did you have to use sudo on irssi?
[01:14] <wthww> Agrajag: i know, but i love my Irssi
[01:14] <mwe> sudo irssi?!
[01:14] <wthww> it wont work any other way
[01:14] <Agrajag> wtf
[01:14] <wthww> if i just type irssi
[01:14] <Agrajag> why not, what does it do?
[01:14] <wthww> its not found
[01:14] <Agrajag> ok, run sudo which irssi
[01:14] <mwe> wthww: yes if you sudo chown -R you ~/.irssi
[01:14] <gnomefreak> wthww: install irssi-text please
[01:14] <Agrajag> and find out why it's not in your users $PATH
[01:15] <Ronz> is there a program that i can use to browse my windows partition?
[01:15] <Agrajag> Ronz: yeah, any file browser will do it
[01:15] <mwe> wthww: if you ran it with sudo the first time it could have broken the perms of .irssi
[01:15] <Agrajag> Ronz: you have to mount it
[01:15] <Ronz> ah, ok. thx Agrajag
[01:15] <wthww> k...
[01:15] <tich> i use the gnome-power-manager and most of its functions work but it won't dim or put the display to sleep when inactive. how do i fix this?
[01:15] <Agrajag> !ntfs > Ronz
[01:16] <mwe> wthww: sudo chown -R wthww ~/.irssi
[01:16] <anachronoks_> Let's try this again.. I installed Ubuntu and I can't get back to Windows
[01:16] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: do you have an entry for windows in your grub boot menu?
[01:16] <rsk> anachronoks_, great =)
[01:16] <anachronoks_> LILO
[01:16] <wthww> heh, worx now
[01:16] <Agrajag> oh
[01:17] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: lloks like it may be the bbcs fault, I think I've found wma and realplayer steams that work :/
[01:17] <Agrajag> I haven't used lilo in forever, but anyway, is there an entry?
[01:17] <wthww> i messed up irssis
[01:17] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: I'm glad I pay my license....
[01:17] <wthww> permissions
[01:17] <wthww> lol
[01:17] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: I could reproduce your multiple instances problem now.
[01:17] <redcard> wthww: Well, reinstall it :)
[01:17] <anachronoks_> Agrajag: That's a good question, I'm kind of a newbie but I'll check it
[01:17] <redcard> sudo apt-get install --reinstall irssi
[01:17] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray:  you can?
[01:17] <wthww> i know, ill do it in a couple hours
[01:18] <warpzone> hey guys, quick question
[01:18] <wthww> im not even at home right now
[01:18] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: I mean, I assume there isn't, otherwise you would have tried it, right?
[01:18] <wthww> (on the road) lol
[01:18] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: yeah, it opened three. I stopped two of them, then it sounded okay.
[01:18] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray; but no video , right?
[01:18] <warpzone> i want to remove rhythmbox, but when I do it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop as well. will this break my install?
[01:18] <mwe> wthww: if you ran irssi with sudo the first time do what i told you to fix it
[01:18] <anachronoks_> Agrajag: Yeah, LILO just boots into Linux
[01:18] <wthww> kk mwe
[01:18] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: ok, look in the file /etc/lilo.conf
[01:19] <Agrajag> I think that's the one
[01:19] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: right :(
[01:19] <Agrajag> and see if there is an entry there for booting windows
[01:19] <chip42> warpzone: it shouldn't ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. removing it doesn't remove all the packages it installed
[01:19] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: just run gedit /etc/lilo.conf to open it read-only
[01:19] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: ok - well thanks for the help mate - I was puzzling over that for a while
[01:19] <anachronoks_> Agrajag: okay, I'll check it, thanks :)
[01:19] <GottferDamnt> sombody uses Mondo/Mindi here?
[01:19] <warpzone> chip42: roger dodger thanks man
[01:19] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: but I witnessed the races in person today ;)
[01:19] <wthww> ty mwe
[01:19] <J-_> what's a good program, that i can use to easily burn iso's?
[01:19] <nikin> d@mn... does anyone have any experiences with Genius Wizardpen on ubuntu?
[01:20] <redcard> No.. he's right.
[01:20] <GottferDamnt> gnomebaker?
[01:20] <redcard> apt-get -s remove rhythmbox removes rhythmbox and ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray: lol. and lost a lot of money, right?
[01:20] <magnus87> J-_ : gnomebaker
[01:20] <Agrajag> J-_: if you're using gnome, you should be able to just right-click the iso file and choose to burn it
[01:20] <Agrajag> can't get much easier than that
[01:20] <J-_> k cool, thanks.
[01:20] <GottferDamnt> need some help about mondo rescue :/ !
[01:21] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: I didn't risk that much ;)
[01:21] <redcard> Should that be logged as a bug?
[01:21] <anachronoks_> Agrajag: Nothing for Windows, but I found boot=/dev/hda (my XP drive is hdb, I suppose it's worth a shot)
[01:22] <Sleeping_Sloth> soundray - thanks for the help, much appreciated. I'd better stop before some admin gets the wrong end of the stick and accuses me of trolling... cheers
[01:22] <bayzin> my freind got rid of windows on my machine and unfortainly i do not have the windows install disk how do i ubuntu off and windwos back on
[01:22] <mwe> redcard: no
[01:22] <wthww> anyone read the forum thread (ubuntu forums) about laptops fans not working?
[01:22] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: ok, here's what you need to do.
[01:22] <mwe> redcard: ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package
[01:22] <redcard> mwe: So if you remove rhythmbox, it should remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
[01:22] <Ronz> wthww, my laptop fan works fine. what ones weren't wroking?
[01:22] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: open the fiole with root permissions (sudo gedit /etc/lilo.conf)
[01:22] <soundray> Sleeping_Sloth: just tried wma - one instance only, but no video, either
[01:22] <mister_roboto> J-_: if you use kde, k3b is a very good program
[01:23] <mwe> redcard: yes but no actual packages are removed
[01:23] <redcard> mwe: What happens if someone tries to install something that requires ubuntu-desktop?
[01:23] <J-_> i use gnome heh
[01:23] <wthww> well, dell coreduo ones, but the ones on my laptop dont work either
[01:23] <warpzone> k3b is awesome with gnome as well, i love it
[01:23] <mwe> redcard: it removes the virtual package
[01:23] <redcard> mwe: Or is Ubuntu-desktop shorthand for "Everything back the way it was"
[01:23] <enyc> bayzin: in shorh athat is not possible giiven the circimstance you appear to describe
[01:23] <richiefrich> DShepherd YO man
[01:23] <mister_roboto> warpzone: :)   lots of people don't like having to load all those libs from the other desktop if they don't run it though
[01:23] <richiefrich> whats shackin
[01:23] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: add the entry for windows: go to the end of the file and add two lines: 1. "other = /dev/hdb" 2. "label = Windows"
[01:24] <bayzin> there is no way
[01:24] <mwe> redcard: ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package providing a bunch of packages
[01:24] <DShepherd> richiefrich: hey. what sup?
[01:24] <bayzin> i mean i have a windows disk but no key
[01:24] <redcard> mwe: So.. basically.. if he removes rhythmbox.. then it'll remove ubuntu desktop.  The next time he installs something that requires ubuntu-desktop, it'll install ubuntu-desktop, then rhythmbox..
[01:24] <richiefrich> DShepherd not much u havent been by in awhile
[01:24] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: make sure you put the right partition there, if windows is on hdb1, you need to specify that partition
[01:24] <DShepherd> richiefrich: i am well. what about you? yeah,, busy busy
[01:24] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: then save the file and run "sudo lilo"
[01:24] <Shawn0331> Has anyone got ubuntu to work with the new intel macs?
[01:24] <mwe> redcard: I don't think anything depends on ubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <richiefrich> DShepherd ricing man
[01:24] <anachronoks_> Agrajag: Great! I'll try that now
[01:24] <richiefrich> DShepherd  so far 20% increase in system
[01:25] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: I believe just running lilo like that will install the new entry, if not check the lilo manual for reinstalling the bootloader.
[01:25] <warpzone> mister_roboto: i know but damn it is a sweet program.
[01:25] <redcard> mwe: Well, easy enough way to find out :)
[01:25] <mister_roboto> warpzone: i agree!
[01:25] <lefty123> hey anybody know how to change refresh rate? mine is set too high and i get fuzzy text!
[01:25] <richiefrich> DShepherd and u.. ?
[01:25] <Agrajag> anachronoks_: you might want to consider switching to grub at some point, it's a lot easier to deal with
[01:25] <DShepherd> richiefrich: kool. how the rest of the guys?
[01:25] <mwe> redcard: I don't have that package
[01:25] <DShepherd> richiefrich: hmmm here and there.. nothing statistical
[01:25] <richiefrich> DShepherd great some jumped ship..  they went to smgl
[01:25] <warpzone> mister_roboto: same with amarok. why oh why make em for KDE? j/k :-P
[01:26] <richiefrich> J-_ not at all
[01:26] <DShepherd> richiefrich: smgl?
[01:26] <orbital04> Ya, I can't find no gstreamer plugins in the universe or mulitverse multimedia repositoires.....:-$
[01:26] <soundray> Shawn0331: apparently so... check out http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[01:26] <richiefrich> J-_  apache ?
[01:26] <richiefrich> DShepherd source mage
[01:26] <J-_> yeah heh
[01:26] <DShepherd> richiefrich: why?
[01:26] <bayzin> hello
[01:26] <richiefrich> DShepherd another distro
[01:26] <DShepherd> richiefrich:  ok
[01:26] <mwe> J-_: I think for a basic setup sudo aptitude install apache2 would give you a running server. I would categorize that as hard :)
[01:27] <J-_> nice lol
[01:27] <Agrajag> can't test what
[01:27] <J-_> i'm going to run it on my other machine heh, dedicated =D
[01:27] <nikin> Agrajag: Genius wizardpen driver
[01:27] <mwe> nikin: can't test?
[01:28] <nikin> and Canon lbp 2900 driver
[01:28] <nikin> and lazarus
[01:28] <Agrajag> ah, because you can't install stuff on the livecd
[01:28] <wthww> so in order to get mplayer to play mp3s i need to install libmp3 or what...?
[01:28] <nikin> Agrajag: yup
[01:28] <J-_> that reminds me, is it hard to set up an allinone printer? lexmark x2330?
[01:29] <nikin> wthww: do you have any problems with xmms?
[01:29] <chip42> wthww: libmad0 is what its called i think
[01:29] <JamieBE> Hi peeps
[01:29] <mwe> J-_: check the printing wiki or linuxprinting.org
[01:29] <Agrajag> well, I'd say bite the bullet, make a small partition for linux, and install.
[01:29] <orbital04> well i have to log out now....guess I'll go get drunk......
[01:29] <JamieBE> It appears that the search util in Ubuntu only searched Home dir by default. How can I make it search the entire Filesystem??
[01:29] <mwe> J-_: most printers are well supported
[01:30] <magnus87> JamieBE - when you are searching simply chg the directory of where to search
[01:30] <JamieBE> chg?
[01:30] <magnus87> its the option below where you type what you're searching for
[01:30] <soundray> J-_: check on www.linuxprinting.org : there is a driver called lm1100 which may work with your allinone
[01:30] <JamieBE> IT IS?
[01:30] <magnus87> yep
[01:30] <J-_> thanks
[01:30] <nikin> Agrajag: this stupid notebook caries my whole work for the last 2 years
[01:30] <JamieBE> I dont see it
[01:30] <nikin> if i loose my stuff...
[01:31] <JamieBE> In Places > Search?
[01:31] <mister_roboto> warpzone: i run kde so i'm happy  ;)
[01:31] <magnus87> hang on ill imageshack an SS for you
[01:31] <JamieBE> ty
[01:32] <Agrajag> nikin: eesh
[01:32] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> how can i do to modify background gnome toolbar and applet tools too?
[01:32] <Shawn0331> where are the live cd's?
[01:33] <jrib> Shawn0331: ubuntu.com, click on download
[01:33] <Shawn0331> jrib: Yes, but i don't see the 'live' cd's
[01:33] <DShepherd> Shawn0331: i think they are called desktop installer or somethingliekthat
[01:33] <DShepherd> something like that*
[01:33] <jrib> Shawn0331: the regular cd (not alternate) is both the live cd and installer
[01:33] <warpzone> I'm outtie. Thanks for the help everybody, you continuously save my behind
[01:33] <Shawn0331> oh, thanks
[01:34] <rever> Hi I have a fat32 shared partition. When I go to computer I can double click the icon but it will not automatically open it the partion. It is mounted so I have to goto filesystem => media => share to access those files.
[01:34] <JamieBE> You still live and kicking magnus87 bud?
[01:34] <magnus87> I pm'ed the link to you
[01:34] <magnus87> http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2352/searchdz1.png
[01:34] <magnus87> there it is
[01:34] <JamieBE> Sweet
[01:34] <JamieBE> Let's have a look'see
[01:35] <soundray> Shawn0331: did you get that link?
[01:35] <JamieBE> How do you open that search window magnus87?
[01:35] <magnus87> Places > search for files
[01:36] <magnus87> if you are in nautilus and press control+F, a similar setup is shown
[01:36] <Star_Fox> ciao
[01:36] <teratorn> how do you install inetd in dapper? (can't find the config file, inetd.conf)
[01:36] <JamieBE> That's not what I'm seeing magnus87
[01:36] <Shawn0331> no
[01:36] <magnus87> how are you searching, control+F?
[01:36] <teratorn> I've installed inetd, which actualy installed inetutils-inetd
[01:36] <mwe> teratorn: I think sudo aptitude install xinetd
[01:36] <Star_Fox> oh vuolete sapere una cosa???
[01:36] <JamieBE> Nautilus CTRL + F just shows a text box under the crumb trail
[01:37] <Star_Fox> microsoft fa paura
[01:37] <Star_Fox> viva windows
[01:37] <Star_Fox> ^^
[01:37] <magnus87> press enter to search, then the 'place' to search shows up
[01:37] <Star_Fox> w windowssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[01:37] <Star_Fox> windowsssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[01:37] <Star_Fox> viva windows xp
[01:37] <jrib> Star_Fox: please stop
[01:37] <Star_Fox> ...
[01:37] <Star_Fox> ahahah
[01:37] <skarface> uh
[01:37] <JamieBE> magnus87: nope just a "Search Results"
[01:37] <Star_Fox> no dico
[01:38] <magnus87> JamieBE: http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1848/searchwy8.png
[01:38] <GStubbs43> Anyone here use Seamonkey? If so, have you gotten Adblock to work?
[01:38] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:38] <magnus87> thats what i get after pressing CTRL+F and then searching, if you change what i pointed to that changes the directory where you search
[01:38] <wthww> chip: its Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin
[01:39] <JamieBE> magnus87 - I see now! For some reason that section was collapsed as default
[01:39] <magnus87> glad i helped
[01:39] <JamieBE> magnus87: you seem pretty smart. I have just done a search for what I am after and have had no luck
[01:39] <Cornellius> !drip
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about drip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:39] <Cornellius> !video
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:39] <JamieBE> maybe you would know?
[01:39] <jrib> !fishing
[01:39] <gnomefreak> Cornellius: dont play with the bot
[01:39] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:39] <magnus87> what is it?
[01:39] <Cornellius> gnomefreak: I don't play with him
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Cornellius: what makes you think if it doesnt know in -offtopic it would know in here?
[01:40] <nalioth> Cornellius: /msg ubotu FACTOID
[01:40] <mwe> Cornellius: /msg him though
[01:40] <majestikm> I'm trying to install lilo to my ubuntu partition from the live CD.  I'm not exactly sure how to do this manually or using a package manager.  Does anyone know?
[01:40] <Cornellius> Ah, though you couldn't pivate-chat with him
[01:40] <Cornellius> Or shoud I say it.
[01:40] <Cornellius> :)
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> majestikm,  dont like grub eh?
[01:41] <soundray> majestikm: have you got a reason to prefer lilo over grub?
[01:41] <magnus87> JamieBE - go ahead and ask
[01:41] <JamieBE> OK, basically, Magnus87 - I am customising my Ubuntu Gnome desktop to the max. A couple of things are still bugging me though which I know can be edited, but I just can't find an up-to-date solution anywhere.
[01:41] <majestikm> I don't think Grub works very well with EFI systems, does it?
[01:41] <wthww> ahh... rythmbox is neat
[01:41] <magnus87> JamieBE - what are you looking for to customize?
[01:41] <JamieBE> 1)Editing of the menu bar, including System sub menus
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> majestikm,  no clue there.. ive not even seen an EFI system yet. :P
[01:41] <JamieBE> 2) Editing the logo in the menu bar (ubuntu logo by default)
[01:41] <magnus87> JamieBE - have you used Alacerte Menu Editor at all?
[01:42] <Agrajag> majestikm: is this on a mac?
[01:42] <JamieBE> 3) editing of the boot screen (the brown one showing services being loaded)
[01:42] <magnus87> Alacarte*
[01:42] <gnomefreak> !usplash > JamieBE
[01:42] <CharMan> OLEH
[01:42] <majestikm> Arga, yep, macbook
[01:42] <wthww> they shoulve never left open firmwre if you ask me
[01:42] <goonies> what is powernowd?
[01:42] <ttyfscker> JamieBE:: thats the usplash
[01:42] <nalioth> goonies: power management daemon for amd processors
[01:43] <ttyfscker> JamieBE:: if you installed xubuntu-desktop then you would get rid of all that ugliness ;)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> JamieBE: the icon is a bit tricky
[01:43] <goonies> thanks, guess i can turn that off since i have an intel
[01:43] <JamieBE> Magnus87: Alacarte allows modification of the sub menus under Administration and Preferences, but I would like to remove the help options and the about options
[01:43] <magnus87> gnomefreak - i though usplash was the one that shows load-up and shut-down stuff
[01:43] <mwe> JamieBE: I couldn't resist peeking at your screenshots. what theme are you using ?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> magnus87: thats what he asked for
[01:43] <magnus87> i thought he meant the splash screen when you login
[01:43] <ttyfscker> magnus87:: he asked about the screen that shows services
[01:43] <magnus87> my misunderstanding then
[01:43] <gnomefreak> JamieBE: is the splash after you log into gnome?
[01:44] <JamieBE> Thanks all for the 'uSplash' link - Pucker, just what I was after!!
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[01:44] <JamieBE> mwe - Nothing too special, just customised.
[01:44] <wthww> ahh... sweet sweet music
[01:44] <magnus87> im not sure about removing the help links though
[01:44] <JamieBE> gnomefreak -uSplash is the one I was after. Thanks bud.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:44] <soundray> majestikm: have you seen the report at http://bin-false.org/?p=17 ?
[01:44] <wthww> finlayy, i thought my mp3s were coripted when i backed them up, lol
[01:44] <ku> zOMG, I just accidentally deleted the top panel. Is there any way to get it back with the original settings or do I have to do everything manually?
[01:44] <goonies> another question, whats hplip
[01:45] <wthww> *corrupted
[01:45] <Materazzi> please!!! anybody know how to downmix audio&video???
[01:45] <soundray> !info hplip
[01:45] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[01:45] <soundray> goonies: ^^
[01:45] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: you know of a good tool for converting m4a to mp3 or ogg vorbis?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: nope i dont do music on pc
[01:45] <goonies> cool
[01:46] <goonies> !info mdadm
[01:46] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux md device arrays (software RAID). In repository main, is standard. Version 1.12.0-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 348 kB
[01:46] <Agrajag> ttyfscker: could you convert them to wav with faad and then pass those to oggenc or lame?
[01:46] <goonies> md device arrays?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> goonies: please use /msg ubotu <factoid>
[01:46] <soundray> goonies: you can have a private conversation with ubotu: /msg ubotu info mdadm
[01:46] <majestikm> soundray, I hadn't... I'll give it a try, thanks
[01:46] <goonies> 10/4
[01:46] <ttyfscker> Agrajag:: i suppose i could do that. but that involves too much time and disk space
[01:46] <Agrajag> not really
[01:47] <matti> Does anyone notices an nasty crash at bootloader instalation stage with SATA, XFS and grub?
[01:47] <Materazzi> anybody know how to downmix audio&video???
[01:47] <mwe> ttyfscker: are you aware that converting between two lossy compression formats implies loss of quality?
[01:47] <Agrajag> just send the wav output to stdout, get oggenc to read from stdin
[01:47] <Agrajag> make a script that does that and just run it against all the files you want to convert
[01:47] <aro-ron> hey all
[01:47] <matti> I saw some bug reports about this at launchpad, but I am curious. Maybe? Anyone?
[01:47] <matti> ;] 
[01:47] <ttyfscker> mwe:: the quality that is lost is usually not noticeable by the human ear.
[01:48] <NewUbuntuUser> is it possible for a secondary hard drive to be accessed and modified on both windows and ubuntu os's
[01:48] <NewUbuntuUser> ?
[01:48] <JamieBE> magnus87 - My guess would be that the menu structures along with icon allocation and command line are saved in an XML structure somewhere. it would be the sensible way to save it. But I cant find this anywhere?
[01:48] <mwe> ttyfscker: well that depends on the ear I guess. I have a different experience
[01:48] <magnus87> i think its all under ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[01:48] <ku> nvm, i just reinstalled the panel ^^
[01:48] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: yes - format it with FAT32 (both can read and write that natively) or ext2 (you need a Windows driver for that)
[01:48] <alienseer23> !xorg
[01:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:48] <ttyfscker> mwe:: if you convert to a lesser quality bit rate then of course it will be. but just changing from one audio compression type to another keeping the same bit rate, it isnt really noticeable
[01:49] <Agrajag> ttyfscker: something like faad -w infile.aac | oggenc - -o output.ogg
[01:49] <magnus87> JamieBE: theres a bunch of xml files that call out the preferences there, including icons, etc
[01:49] <NewUbuntuUser> thank you
[01:49] <magnus87> not sure which does what exactly :P
[01:49] <Agrajag> ttyfscker: with other quality options for oggenc of course, to your taste
[01:49] <NewUbuntuUser> soundray, the system > administration > disks doesnt have a fat32 option
[01:49] <alienseer23> hello, does xinerama have an interface?
[01:50] <JamieBE> Magnus87 - I am really tempted to build an app in Ruby or something to edit this menu structure. Alacarte is nice, but it lacks power.
[01:50] <goonies> how do i turn off the default bit torrent program that starts up at boot
[01:50] <alienseer23> or, how do I conifgure xinerama w/an nvidia card?
[01:50] <magnus87> JamieBE - i wish i had the spare time / programming experience to do things just like that
[01:50] <Agrajag> alienseer23: don't use xinerama, use nvidia twinview
[01:50] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: use gparted instead
[01:50] <Agrajag> alienseer23: you can set that up with just a couple lines in xorg.conf
[01:50] <NewUbuntuUser> ok
[01:50] <NewUbuntuUser> soundray
[01:50] <Bangers> im having a problem with ubuntu 6.06 - my PC has 2 video cards, onboard and PCI.  PCI is the active one
[01:50] <magnus87> JamieBE - have you browsed around ~/.gconf/apps/panel at all?
[01:51] <NewUbuntuUser> where can i get gparted?
[01:51] <Bangers> but ubuntu triies to boot from the onboard one
[01:51] <Bangers> and X fails
[01:51] <mwe> goonies: no bittorent program starts at boot here, but rcconf of bum
[01:51] <Bangers> how do i fix this?
[01:51] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: to create partitions if needed. After that, use mkdosfs to create a FAT32 system (read the man page)
[01:51] <magnus87> Bangers - go into BIOS on boot and turn off onboard video?
[01:51] <NewUbuntuUser> ok
[01:51] <alienseer23> ok
[01:51] <JamieBE> magnus97 - Looking now, thanks again bud it looks promising. Any luck with that icon near applications?
[01:51] <mwe> NewUbuntuUser: sudo aptitude install gparted in a terminal would get it
[01:51] <NewUbuntuUser> and fat32 is read/write capable for both ubuntu and windows?
[01:52] <mwe> NewUbuntuUser: yes
[01:52] <FurryNemesis> NewUbuntuUser, yes
[01:52] <mwe> NewUbuntuUser: only ntfs is not
[01:52] <magnus87> JamieBE - those xml files all define that I 'think'
[01:52] <aro-ron> hey, I got a easy question for you... I have seen alot of pictures or people who customized their gnome panels to look alot like the OSX dashboard... 'cept, I cant figure out how to do it. any tips?
[01:52] <Agrajag> alienseer23: http://pastebin.ca/107323
[01:52] <soundray> !info gdesklets
[01:52] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:53] <soundray> aro-ron: ^^
[01:53] <NewUbuntuUser> gparted can do fat32
[01:53] <alienseer23> k
[01:53] <aro-ron> ah ok, I will try that
[01:53] <ironmonk> i need to know, how do i mount an .img file (in xubuntu)?
[01:53] <magnus87> aro-ron http://gnome-look.org has some skins as well
[01:53] <Agrajag> alienseer23: that is my device section, if you add the twinview line and tiwnvieworientation and so on, yours should work
[01:53] <NewUbuntuUser> soundray thank you for your help
[01:53] <alienseer23> what about for tv?
[01:53] <Agrajag> ironmonk: .img, as in a raw CDROM image?
[01:53] <ironmonk> agraja: yes
[01:54] <Agrajag> ironmonk: you'll need to convert it to an iso with bchunk first
[01:54] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: I think it will set the filesystem type, but not actually create the filesystem.
[01:54] <jn> hey what program are people using to transfer mp3 to their ipod in ubuntu? i hear ephpod works in linux im assuming you run wine?
[01:54] <ironmonk> agrajag: how? i am new to this
[01:54] <jrib> !ipod
[01:54] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:54] <jn> thank you jrib
[01:54] <rever> Can some one help me figure out why when I am in Nautilus => Computer when I click Share to open that partion it will mount it but not open it. I have to actually goto File System/media/share
[01:55] <majestikm> I'm running on the live CD trying to install lilo.  I typed in (apt-get install lilo lilo-doc linux-686-smp linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 linux-kernel-headers) to the terminal, it asked if I wanted to install/continue etc.  I hit yet, and it asks me to: "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ -Release1386 (20060531)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter.  I'm running off the live CD... any ideas?
[01:55] <Agrajag> ironmonk: I don't know the whole process, I don't use raw CD images, but you'd have to install bchunk, and run something like bchunk foo.img foo.cue foo, and mount foo.iso -t iso9660 /mnt/mountpoint -o loop
[01:55] <rever> It is a fat32 partion with read write permission to the user.
[01:56] <rever> I can got directly in to my thumb drive which is also fat32.
[01:56] <ironmonk> agrajag: oh, i see. i wish there was some graphical utility for that, though
[01:56] <soundray> majestikm: what happens when you hit enter?
[01:56] <jn> which app is the most like ephpod? i hate itunes? would it be gtkpod?
[01:57] <alienseer23> um, in my xorg.config ile, it is showing the wrong video card??
[01:57] <majestikm> sound, the first time it came up with get:1 through get:5 with URL's following.  Then it just keeps asking me to insert the CD...
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> majestikm,  if its asking for hte cd.. then your apt sources.list has the cdrom drive listed.. edit it and comment out the cdrom line
[01:57] <ttyfscker> jn:: gtkpod is the only thing that comes close to being like any ipod software..
[01:57] <majestikm> Ah, okay, thanks Willis
[01:58] <soundray> Dr_Willis: does that apply when majestikm is on the live CD, though?
[01:58] <SSN> alienseer23: what video card do you have? and what is showing?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  no clue there..   ive never tried it.
[01:59] <majestikm> I'll comment out the line and see if it works
[01:59] <jn> ok next question ;) when installing ubuntu i didnt set the time correctly and now when i run ntpupdate it does work and sync but to the wrong time, my locale was set correctly, so i removed it and that didnt help either.. and time-admin fails
[01:59] <Ptero-4> Hi. Do anyone knows a way for using dialup in Dapper.
[01:59] <Ptero-4> PON is broken and wvdial is f*cked up.
[01:59] <jn> im thinking i could fake the timezone? maybe someone knows a cleaner approach
[02:00] <alienseer23> i have an nvidia 6200 and it shows an ati radeon rv1000
[02:00] <alienseer23> rv100 oops
[02:01] <NewUbuntuUser> my system cant read the fat32 partition now
[02:01] <spring> ..
[02:01] <soundray> Ptero-4: I haven't done this, but try 'System-Administration-Networking" and the modem properties.
[02:01] <minerale> Hi, when I print to my printer, the page is about 1cm offset, where woud I fix this (or where would I find more about it)
[02:01] <spring> hi guys, where does synaptic manager keep its downloaded file in ubuntu??
[02:02] <soundray> spring: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:02] <spring> i tried googled already, no help on this
[02:02] <spring> cool thx soundray
[02:02] <Ptero-4> soundtray. My problem is that trying to use pon I get a "can't set terminal parameters" error and the conections drops.
[02:02] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: is it mounted?
[02:03] <NewUbuntuUser> soundray i used the mkdosfs to create the fat32 partition but now it says it cant read the drive
[02:03] <NewUbuntuUser> it wont mount
[02:03] <NewUbuntuUser> says it cant be found
[02:03] <Ptero-4> and also I have noticed that with kernel 2.6.15-(22/23) sudo complains about a timestamp in the future.
[02:03] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: what's the device name?
[02:03] <NewUbuntuUser> um
[02:03] <Ptero-4> And the hw clock can't be set.
[02:04] <NewUbuntuUser>  /dev/hdc1
[02:04] <NewUbuntuUser> o.O
[02:04] <pba> hello, i've installed ubuntu 6.06 for amd64, but how can i see dvds?
[02:04] <soundray> Ptero-4: you have to configure ppp before you can use pon. Try the way I suggested.
[02:04] <Ptero-4> Ahh. soundtray. If I use your method, will it work with the gnome-ppp applet?
[02:04] <spring> if i use synaptic manager to download 300MB for kubuntu-desktop, is there any chance i can extract downloaded file so if i reinstall ubuntu, i don't have to download again
[02:05] <soundray> Ptero-4: sry, haven't done this and can't test.
[02:05] <sammy> ahhh hi
[02:05] <Ptero-4> soundtray, I use pppconfig to set ppp and it sets ppp o.k. It's just pon what fails.
[02:06] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: what did you use as the mkdosfs command line?
[02:06] <sammy> how am i suposed to open my executionable files?
[02:06] <sponotch> hi guys, I'm having one heck of a problem dual booting with XP using GRUB.    I have looked all over Google for help, but couldn't find anything that worked.  Anyone think they could point me in the right direction if I described the problem a little more?
[02:06] <NewUbuntuUser> mkdosfs /dev/hdc1
[02:06] <Ptero-4> Ahh. one thing I'm on breezy so I can't try anything until I have gathered several methods to use when I update to Dapper (and lose any ability to go to the web).
[02:06] <SSN> spring: you might look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:07] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: did that run without errors?
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> it created the partition but gparted says the fat32 is un readable and it wont mount using the disk thingy
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> yes
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> mkdosfs ran without errors
[02:07] <JamieBE> magnus97: A lot of info in these XMLs, but nothing relevant to anything more than general menu ADS's.
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> er
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> i used
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> mkdosfs /dev/hdc1 -I
[02:07] <nalioth> abo did you get sorted?
[02:07] <magnus87> JamieBE sorry then :(
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> because it said
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/hdc' (use -I if wanted)
[02:07] <NewUbuntuUser> when i didnt do -I
[02:07] <spring> ok thx
[02:07] <JamieBE> No prob magnus87. Henag a sec bro...
[02:07] <magnus87> you could try google or http://ubuntuforums.org
[02:08] <alienseer23> hpw do i fix the wrong card showing up in my xorg.config file?
[02:08] <pba> hello?
[02:08] <NewUbuntuUser> hello
[02:08] <Ronz> nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: that doesn't make sense. You either did "mkdosfd /dev/hdc" without the "1", or you haven't finalized the partitioning in gparted properly.
[02:09] <NewUbuntuUser> er yea
[02:09] <Ronz> and make sure you do sudo, alienseer23
[02:09] <NewUbuntuUser> i did it without the 1
[02:09] <NewUbuntuUser> mkdosfs /dev/hdc -I
[02:09] <NewUbuntuUser> how do i finalize the partitioning?
[02:10] <sponotch> If anyone thinks that they coul help me with a GRUB isue, please msg me.
[02:10] <alienseer23> ok, does this thing work automatically, then?
[02:10] <jrib> sponotch: just tell the chat your issue, otherwise how can we know if we can help you :)
[02:10] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: you've ruined the work you've done with gparted now. Go back to partitioning. Try doing everything with gparted -- it should work (contrary to what I said earlier)
[02:11] <NewUbuntuUser> i just tried that
[02:11] <NewUbuntuUser> and when i created the new fat32 partition an error poped up and gparted froze
[02:11] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: what error?
[02:11] <NewUbuntuUser> i dont know
[02:11] <NewUbuntuUser> it froze before texted showed up
[02:11] <blup|patrick> hi
[02:11] <blup|patrick> need help with my networking
[02:11] <blup|patrick> i have a ralink2500 based usb stick
[02:12] <NewUbuntuUser> ok im starting over here
[02:12] <blup|patrick> and i cant get it working
[02:12] <NewUbuntuUser> its asking me for a disk label
[02:12] <NewUbuntuUser> o.O
[02:12] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: okay, let's try differently. Run 'fdisk /dev/hdc' and hit 'p' return. Does it show a partition table?
[02:12] <Asc> huh, DNS just died.
[02:12] <dxdemetriou> If I mount manually a partition, it disappeared from "Places/Computer", and some times crached the nautilus. Anybody knows why?
[02:12] <tsume> erm
[02:12] <blup|patrick> its about wifi and wpa
[02:12] <tsume> hmm
[02:12] <shiv> after installing xfce the ubuntu login screen changed. How do I get it back
[02:12] <JamieBE> magnus97: See the XML here? /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/vfolders
[02:12] <minerale> what password do I use in the cups interface at localhost:631 ?
[02:12] <nalioth> soundray: perhaps you could be of more use in #ubuntu-classroom with NewUbuntuUser ?
[02:12] <tsume> heh
[02:12] <NewUbuntuUser> yes
[02:12] <tsume> this channel has lots of questions, with no answers :)\
[02:12] <NewUbuntuUser> it shows a table
[02:13] <blup|patrick> nobody here that can help me with networking :/
[02:13] <NewUbuntuUser> but there arn't any partitions on the disk
[02:13] <soundray> !patience > tsume
[02:13] <tsume> soundray: I didn't ask anything
[02:13] <tsume> soundray: I was just observing
[02:13] <JamieBE> magnus87: See the XML here? /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/vfolders
[02:13] <soundray> tsume: how pointless
[02:13] <tsume> !rtfc > soundray
[02:13] <sponotch> My computer is set up to dual boot both Ubuntu and XP, and I've only recently had problems when trying to boot into XP after updating ubuntu.   In the GRUB boot menu when I select Windows XP it starts to go through the loading process but when it gets to "stage 2" it drops back to the boot menu.  Any ideas?
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about rtfc  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:13] <tsume> ;)
[02:13] <soundray> NewUbuntuUser: can you join #ubuntu-classroom with me please
[02:14] <NewUbuntuUser> yup yup
[02:14] <NewUbuntuUser> im in ubuntu-classroom
[02:14] <hltechie> hi
[02:14] <magnus87> JamieBE - yes....
[02:14] <jn> so about gtkpod.. i followed the instructions to setting it up but when i open the app i am not seeing all my music listed.. what gives?
[02:14] <magnus87> mine has nothing useful looking though
[02:15] <blup|patrick> guys please... sitting here again for hours without progress...
[02:15] <blup|patrick> i beg u... please help me :(
[02:15] <JamieBE> magnus87: Sorry - There are more .menu files somewhere on the computer
[02:15] <Ronz> hey, linux and keybindings for WoW not working...anyone have any idea's?
[02:15] <jn> i dissconnected my ipod and all the music is still on the ipod which is good but i am afraid to add new tracks with out the current ones being displayed in gtkpod
[02:15] <minerale> anyone here have experience with printing and cups ...
[02:15] <magnus87> yeah, best bet would be to find someone who's edited something similar
[02:15] <JamieBE> I searched .menu and I can't find it anywhere
[02:15] <jn> blup|patrick: what's going on?
[02:15] <majestikm> Ronz, how does WoW's cheat protection work with linux?
[02:16] <blup|patrick> jn: no wifi so far...
[02:16] <blup|patrick> thats the problem
[02:16] <magnus87> JamieBE - you sure you included hidden files?
[02:16] <jn> ttyfscker: hey did you see my question?
[02:16] <Ronz> majestikm, i have yet to have a problem
[02:16] <jn> blup|patrick: mm what soundcard do you have?
[02:16] <blup|patrick> WIFI -- WLAN
[02:16] <bec> I was wondering if someone could help me install Ubuntu?
[02:16] <magnus87> JamieBE - Places > search for files, then click the drop down for more options, and select "show hiddent and backup files", then click "add"
[02:16] <jn> blup|patrick: your soundcard.. what make
[02:16] <majestikm> Ronz, ah, cool... I'm a little worried by account would get banned... I have a friend that got a steam account banned because he was using cedega
[02:16] <JamieBE> yerp
[02:16] <jn> i have a broadcom 4318 for example
[02:17] <jn> which was a pain to setup
[02:17] <blup|patrick> my soundcard?
[02:17] <blup|patrick> though its stereo and nothing more it works
[02:17] <blup|patrick> but my wlan doesnt work
[02:17] <blup|patrick> which uses a ralink 2500 chipset
[02:17] <jn> shit i mean wifi card
[02:17] <Ptero-4> blup|patrick. Have you used ndiswrapper/ndisgtk? Wifi-radar?
[02:17] <Ronz> majestikm, that sucks. i would raise hell if it was me
[02:17] <blup|patrick> a usb stick from ASUSTec
[02:18] <jn> ralink 2500 eh?
[02:18] <blup|patrick> Ptero-4: no rt2570 driver
[02:18] <blup|patrick> that one in ubuntu
[02:18] <ttyfscker> jn::  no i didnt see your question
[02:18] <blup|patrick> jn: ya
[02:18] <jn> i don't know anything about that card but i had to use ndiswrapper for mine i'd search google
[02:18] <tsume> majestikm: answer. Don't game, its a waste of time and money ;)
[02:18] <spring> did anyone keep back up of files for /var/cache/apt/archives so no need to download again when reinstall???
[02:18] <jn> ttyfscker: ill repeat if you want
[02:18] <Ronz> tsume, gaming = my getaway from the world
[02:18] <Towering> so, ubuntu can't detect my printer on the parallel port, no matter what i d
[02:18] <Towering> do
[02:18] <tsume> Ronz: answer, get a life :)\
[02:18] <blup|patrick> jn: google.. so did i... well i ahve followed 20 howtos, visitited 30 forums
[02:18] <majestikm> tsume, I don't watch TV, but I game :P
[02:18] <blup|patrick> wasted weeks and nothing is working :|
[02:18] <ttyfscker> jn:: ok
[02:18] <jn> i dissconnected my ipod and all the music is still on the ipod which is good but i am afraid to add new tracks with out the current ones being displayed in gtkpod
[02:19] <majestikm> Ronz, what server are you on?
[02:19] <NickRivers> ok... I had to install ubuntu using the server CD... how do i get Xorg up and running?
[02:19] <jn> blup|patrick: are you using a x64 or x86 build of ubuntu?
[02:19] <Ptero-4> blup|patrick. you mean that there's no Windoze driver ffor that wifi card?
[02:19] <Ronz> majestikm, ursin ftw
[02:19] <ttyfscker> jn:: gtkpod isnt like itunes.. it wont delete the songs off your ipod unless you specifically tell it to
[02:19] <Ronz> used to be shadow council
[02:19] <ttyfscker> jn:: have you considered using rockbox?
[02:19] <blup|patrick> dapper x86 of course
[02:19] <spring> NickaNicka: there shud be no need to mess xOrg directly
[02:19] <spring> i think
[02:20] <ttyfscker> rockbox = alternative OS to apples iPod os
[02:20] <jn> ttyfscker: im just sketched not seeing the songs i have on there now
[02:20] <jn> why dont they show up?
[02:20] <tsume> spring: installing nvidia and needing a dual screen setup :)
[02:20] <ttyfscker> jn:: do you have gtkpod set to automount / unmount ?
[02:20] <NickRivers> spring: well then how do I get GUI up and running?
[02:20] <ttyfscker> jn:: also does it show the right details at the bottom of gtkpod about your freespace on the ipod
[02:20] <jn> sec
[02:20] <spring> ohh u r on server
[02:20] <NickRivers> yah
[02:21] <jn> i edited fstab to mount
[02:21] <NickRivers> the livecd didn't work on my box
[02:21] <blup|patrick> patrick@perseus:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:21] <blup|patrick> (gedit:17366): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[02:21] <blup|patrick> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[02:21] <blup|patrick> whats the meaning of this?
[02:21] <spring> NickaNicka: can't u install ubuntu 1st, then install server
[02:21] <jn> and made gktpod.out
[02:21] <ttyfscker> jn:: is it being mounted as user or as root?
[02:21] <jn> to unmount
[02:21] <jn> user
[02:21] <jn> i think
[02:21] <ttyfscker> jn:: is it getting mounted at /media/ipod ?
[02:21] <NickRivers> spring: the server CD installs a base system w/o a GUI
[02:21] <jn> yes
[02:21] <jn> no wait /mnt/ipod
[02:22] <ttyfscker> jn:: in gtkpod's settings is it set to the correct mount point?
[02:22] <spring> NickaNicka: server CD evil, i install that once, can't get GUI to work, gave up and stick with normal install, then install server I need from synaptic manager
[02:22] <jn> heh that was it
[02:22] <ttyfscker> jn:: if i remember correctly you have to create new ipod directories.. the itunes directories wont show up in gtkpod i dont think
[02:23] <ttyfscker> oh ok
[02:23] <jn> i think...
[02:23] <jn> hold on
[02:23] <alienseer23> I have a question, if my motherboard requires the nvidia legacy driver, and my videocard reqires the new nvidia driver, how do I do them both?
[02:24] <jn> hm my songs still dont show up and it is connected says 441 MB Free
[02:24] <ttyfscker> jn:: in the file menu.. there is something like create gtkpod directories
[02:24] <ttyfscker> i dont remember 100%
[02:24] <ttyfscker> i dont use ipod OS i use rockbox
[02:24] <blup|patrick> crap... why have i to be penetrant here :(
[02:24] <jn> rockbox?
[02:25] <alienseer23> the video needs nvidia-glx, but the motherboard needs nvidia-glx-legaacy, what do I do?
[02:25] <ttyfscker> yea
[02:25] <majestikm> alien, get a new motherboard or video card
[02:25] <ttyfscker> rockbox is a customizable OS for ipods and other portable mp3 players
[02:25] <noobie0057> how can I create a batch script? In DOS I would enter my DOS commands in a bat file then execute the file. What is the equilivant in linux?
[02:25] <jn> i see "create ipod's directories"
[02:25] <majestikm> alien, sorry, I don't know.. interesting problem though
[02:25] <ttyfscker> jn:: that would be what i was talking about
[02:25] <jn> and check ipod files
[02:25] <jn> check ipod files makes my files show up
[02:25] <ttyfscker> after you do that click read
[02:25] <jn> do i need to run create directories too? that sounds kinda sketch
[02:26] <blup|patrick> need network help :|
[02:26] <blup|patrick> someone there?
[02:26] <blup|patrick> :(
[02:26] <ttyfscker> when you create the directories it should add your other database to the gtkpod database
[02:26] <spring> where can i download a single file for kubutun-desktop, i tried google, doesn't help
[02:26] <jn> rockbox eh? i'll check it out, will i lose all my songs installing it?
[02:26] <chip42> noobie0057: check out http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[02:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:27] <noobie0057> chip42: thanks
[02:27] <chip42> noobie0057: pretty much the same thing. you type your bash commands / script into a file. set permissions and run it
[02:27] <ttyfscker> jn:: no the OS on ipods arent on the same partition as the database
[02:27] <jn> mm
[02:27] <gekko`> anyone knows how I can change the charset of eterm to iso-8859-15?
[02:27] <ttyfscker> jn:: its rather easy to do..
[02:27] <jn> will it work on a ipod color?
[02:27] <jn> im not sure what gen it is
[02:27] <ttyfscker> of course
[02:28] <ttyfscker> it works on my ipod nano 4g
[02:28] <jn> rad.. what do you like better about rockbox?
[02:28] <ttyfscker> ipodlinux sucks
[02:28] <ttyfscker> dont even attempt to use it
[02:28] <jn> i said ipod color i meant phot
[02:28] <jn> photo
[02:29] <ttyfscker> it has customizable themes, you can play games on it, it has extra features, timers, colors, fonts, etc
[02:30] <jn> lol this is nuts
[02:30] <jn> so it's a whole replacement os?
[02:30] <jn> how does it look?
[02:30] <ttyfscker> yea
[02:30] <ttyfscker> but you can boot the normal os too
[02:30] <jn> can i msg you
[02:30] <ttyfscker> yea
[02:32] <JamieBE> magnus87: I cant find these panel menu structure anywhere
[02:34] <JamieBE> magnus87: Enough of that. I have managed to change my distributer logo, but it isn't taking effect in the menu bar. Someone suggested that it was due to my not using the default Ubuntu Human theme. Does anyone know where gnome-themes files are saved?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: /home/user/.theme
[02:36] <jn-> ttyfscker: you regd?
[02:37] <ttyfscker> yea i am
[02:39] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow: good call - but I don't have that Dir. DCan you suggest any others?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: how did you look   . means hidden
[02:39] <JamieBE> Ahhh - I think I fuond it
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: k
[02:40] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow : /usr/share/themes
[02:40] <blup|patrick> how can i disable wpa_supplicant?
[02:41] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for help with that, I don't suppose you know where the Gnome Panel menu structure can be edited from manually do you?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[02:41] <blup|patrick> where are settings for loading services in linux?
[02:41] <kmag> do any of you have experience fixing ALSA problems?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[02:42] <Zyfo> !lost+found
[02:42] <ubotu> lost+found is where fsck (the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly) places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> oops.. sorry  Type gconf-editor
[02:42] <JamieBE> Was that for me Jack_Sparrow?
[02:42] <kmag> I apt-get dist-ugraded to dapper and my sound stopped working
[02:42] <Zyfo> How can I hide my lost+found folder?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: YEa try that editor
[02:43] <kmag> audio device is always busy
[02:43] <kmag> I can't even cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio
[02:43] <howekern> are you running arts?
[02:43] <howekern> I'm an idiot, but in my foolishness, I seem to remember that arts blocks access to teh device files while it's running.
[02:44] <mister_roboto> is anyone here using tomcat5?
[02:44] <mwe> kmag: /dev/audio?
[02:44] <Ptero-4> Hi. how do I make d4x use 4 urls simultaneously to download a single file.
[02:44] <kmag> mwe: or /dev/dsp
[02:44] <kmag> or mpg123
[02:44] <kmag> or vlc
[02:44] <kmag> no sound at all
[02:44] <howekern> Are you using KDE?
[02:44] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow - I used that "hack" already to stop automounting of volumes on desktop. Should be a genuine option if you ask me. What I actually want to do it alter the items and sub-menu structures on the menu bar itself. Like all of System help being removed and the like...
[02:44] <Zyfo> How can I change names or add places in "Places" at Panel and in Naut?
[02:44] <Ronz> kmag, using alsa?
[02:45] <mwe> kmag: no sound from nothing, even gnome sounds?
[02:45] <kmag> howekern: not using KDE
[02:45] <howekern> Huh.
[02:45] <Warbo> Zyfo: You can hide any file or folder in Nautilus by making a file called ".hidden" which contains the names of any files/folder you want hidden. Put the file in the folder containing the files/folders you want to hide
[02:45] <kmag> mwe: how would I check gnome sounds?
[02:45] <Ronz> Zyfo, alcarte menu editor
[02:45] <mwe> kmag: system settings somewhere
[02:45] <howekern> Have you tried alsaconfig?  Does it give you an error?
[02:45] <Zyfo> Ronz, I thought so but I can only change apps and system there :(
[02:45] <Warbo> Zyfo: Adding bookmarks/favourite locations in GNOME will add them to the Places menu
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: I will edit the script and make that addition to the docs
[02:46] <Ronz> yea, i just loaded it up to make sure, lol
[02:46] <Zyfo> Warbo, Can I really change that folder to a .hidden? won't it change back automaticly if I crash then?
[02:46] <DarkMageZ> kmag, "ps -A | grep esd"
[02:46] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow - You lost me there bud. You a developer or something?
[02:46] <Zyfo> Warbo, I "accidently" removed it before and it audo-added back, so won't it do that again as soon as I crash or so?
[02:47] <kmag> DarkMageZ: esd is running
[02:47] <Ronz> JamieBE, Jack_Sparrow is a pirate
[02:47] <Ronz> =)
[02:47] <kmag> DarkMageZ: pid 5301
[02:47] <Warbo> Zyfo: You create a text file called .hidden. For example, in my Home folder I have a text file called .hidden which simply contains the line "Desktop". That tells nautilus to hide the folder called Desktop
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> YArrrrr smile when you say thet
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: I write a little code..
[02:47] <DarkMageZ> kmag, "killall esd" then run your sound application
[02:47] <mwe> kmag: I'd try sudo killall esd then retry the cat command
[02:47] <mister_roboto> anyone here using axis2 with tomcat 5 on ubuntu?
[02:47] <shinobi2> what's a good player, that can play dvd and vcd?
[02:47] <Zyfo> Warbo, ah, bookmark/favourite as in embled? How do I change the names of them then? For example they are called hda1 and hdb1, I'd rather have them being called windows and amin
[02:47] <Warbo> !info ogle-gui
[02:47] <ubotu> ogle-gui: User interface to ogle (Gtk). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 476 kB
[02:48] <JamieBE> Savvy Jack_Sparrow. ARRRRG!
[02:48] <Warbo> !info ogle
[02:48] <ubotu> ogle: DVD player with support for DVD menus. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2.2 (dapper), package size 215 kB, installed size 784 kB
[02:48] <JamieBE> No, sorry that has just confused it more. What script are you editing here? :)
[02:48] <Zyfo> Warbo, so just make a text file called ".hidden." and add all things you want hidden in that dir? that's really smart :x
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: The diskmounter script
[02:49] <Warbo> Zyfo: Yes, just put it in the folder where the hidden things are. Remember you can always see them again by turning on hidden items, or by using ctrl-L to enter the location specifically
[02:49] <kmag> after killing esd, I still get device or resource busy for both /dev/dsp and /dev/audio
[02:49] <Zyfo> Warbo, yepp, thanks!
[02:49] <kmag> mpg123 tells me ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[02:49] <Zyfo> Warbo, and how do I rename places?
[02:50] <Warbo> kmag: Try "fuser /dev/dsp"
[02:50] <JamieBE> Jack_sparrow - You are a developer? That would be fantastic. The DiskMounter was where I looked for the option in the first place. But it wasn't THERE?!
[02:50] <howekern> I have an apt problem; synaptic wants to install versions of various opengl packages whose version numbers don't match.
[02:50] <Zyfo> I can remove the ~\Examples folder I guess?
[02:50] <mwe> kmag: I'd look for info in dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[02:50] <Warbo> Zyfo: I wouldn't know about renaming existing ones, only adding new ones (bookmarks)
[02:50] <shinobi2> gxine have no sound, anyone know how to config it?
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> howekern: have you checked or changed your sources?
[02:51] <Warbo> Zyfo: That is just a link anyway to /usr/share/examples
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[02:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:51] <mwe> shinobi2: do you have sound in other programs?
[02:51] <kmag> hmm... firefox has /dev/dsp open!
[02:51] <Zyfo> Warbo, ok, what's the difference between favourites and bookmarks? both will get added to places? anything else that will get added to placed? Where can you see/set what different emblems do, gconf?
[02:51] <shinobi2> mwe: yes, when ubuntu starts, it plays
[02:51] <mwe> kmag: huh. flash or something?
[02:51] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i "refresh" the hosts file, without rebooting?
[02:52] <mwe> shinobi2: but at this point?
[02:52] <howekern> Uhm, everything still reports Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[02:52] <Warbo> Zyfo: Emblems can mean whatever you want them to if you are going to use them yourself. Access denied and read only emblems are the only automatic ones I know of, and they are pretty obvious
[02:52] <Lvip> Why doesn't the Ubuntu version of Imagemagick regonizes JPEG?
[02:52] <howekern> There aren't any errors when I refresh, if that means anything.
[02:52] <shinobi2> xmms can works fine. mwe
[02:53] <Zyfo> Warbo, ok, thanks
[02:53] <mwe> shinobi2: hmm
[02:53] <mister_roboto> can anyone give me a clue why the downloaded axis2.war won't deploy correctly on vanilla install of tomcat5 on ubuntu?
[02:53] <nocarrier> Hello all
[02:53] <nocarrier> Anyone know much about fglrx and DRI?
[02:53] <alienseer23> ok,fo renabling twinview, what do I out for "<list of metamodes"> ? please?
[02:53] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i "refresh" the hosts file, without rebooting?
[02:53] <mwe> nocarrier: define much
[02:54] <mwe> roostishaw: refresh it?
[02:54] <nocarrier> mwe: well, I have the module installed, but if I leave the Load #dri directive in the xorg.conf, X won't load
[02:54] <bimberi> roostishaw: changes should take effect immediately
[02:54] <Warbo> nocarrier: I know that fglrx didn;t work for me, but DRI did
[02:54] <roostishaw> bimberi & mwe, sorry. you're right... :D
[02:55] <kmag> mwe: might be flash... still no sound, but I can now cat /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp and /dev/audio
[02:55] <mjb_> hi I've just done a dist-upgrade but have errors with the samba package ... I get dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):  Can anyone suggest a fix? (full paste is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19265)
[02:56] <mwe> nocarrier: and the rest of the xorg.conf file is ok?
[02:56] <nocarrier> yea, I am using the fglrx driver now, but without dri.. still referencing the mesa stuff
[02:56] <mwe> nocarrier: yeah fglrx without dri is point less :)
[02:57] <nocarrier> heh... yep
[02:57] <Warbo> Is Direct Rendering in glxinfo a direct reference to DRI, or is DRI just the DRI project?
[02:57] <bimberi> mjb_: what's the output of 'file /etc/rc2.d/K09samba' ?
[02:57] <kmag> thanks for the help
[02:57] <kmag> any more ideas for looking at what's wrong w/ ALSA?
[02:57] <mwe> Warbo: well I think it has two meanings
[02:58] <mjb_> looks like it's non existant... should I create it ?
[02:58] <Warbo> mwe: I was getting confused, since there is a DRI driver for many ATI cards, but apparently fglrx has DRI, and Nvidia driver has Direct Rendering, but it needs DRI to be commented out in xorg.conf
[02:59] <bimberi> mjb_: not sure, the dangling symlink message is a bit strange if the file doesn't exist
[02:59] <niruana> hi, how do i show the gnome control pannel in ubuntu?
[02:59] <Warbo> Mind you, I am on the ati driver now, since I swapped my HD into an nvidia machine and back, so it has auto-reconfigured it to ati for me
[02:59] <niruana> cant find it in the new version
[02:59] <kmag> hmm... PCM was muted by default
[02:59] <bimberi> mjb_: worth a try I guess though
[02:59] <Warbo> niruana: I think there might be a location in Nautilus like "control://" or something (ctrl-L to enter a location)
[02:59] <nocarrier> argh... this sucks...
[03:00] <mwe> Warbo: yes. I'm not an expert but I think that the term DRI is sometimes used to mean direct rendering though it's just confusing
[03:00] <shinobi2> mwe: you know how to config gxine?
[03:00] <niruana> Warbo: on what do i need to search then?
[03:00] <mwe> Warbo: but I think fglrx needs the DRI driver to get direct rendering to work
[03:01] <niruana> because i want to get root for Nautilus, and they say me to edit it in the gnome control pannel
[03:01] <Warbo> niruana: Well, I think all of that stuff is in System>Preferences anyway, but maybe search for a location for Nautilus which will take you to the control centre
[03:01] <nocarrier> bbl
[03:01] <Lvip> Damn, someone screwed up when they compiled the deb packages with ImageMagick for Ubuntu!
[03:01] <mjb_> bimberi: That's actually got it somewhere... the daemons started now ...
[03:01] <soundray> Lvip: or maybe you did, because they work fine here.
[03:02] <bimberi> mjb_: good, we're both learning something ;)
[03:02] <Lvip> Does it support JPEG and GIF?!
[03:02] <kmag> mwe, darkmagez, and others: thanks for the help
[03:02] <howekern> Where's the sources list located on my system, so I can replace it?
[03:02] <soundray> Lvip: with the proper libraries in place, yes.
[03:02] <Warbo> mwe: Well fglrx gave me 2D, but not Direct Rendering or framebuffer (terminal spat out loads of crap when I tried to use them), but radeon uses DRI fine, so if fglrx uses DRI then why didn't it work if radeon does, since fglrx did give me 2D fine? Very strange
[03:02] <mwe> howekern: /etc/apt/sources.list but back it up first
[03:02] <Warbo>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:03] <howekern> Thanks, I will.
[03:03] <mjb_> bimberi: cheers... I had a similar bug with the apt-get data file going missing... I couldn't get any  updates...
[03:03] <niruana> negative on the system preferences Warbo i know that it was there in my previus version (sorry for my bad englisch)
[03:04] <soundray> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <hbi> hey can any1 help me i keep getting an error in setting up the UI server for kismet it cant bind to 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.0 the problem only arose after installing nessus could this be stopping it?
[03:04] <Olathe> I'm having a lot of trouble burning the alternate install CD in Windows XP. Are there ISO-burning tools that people have been successful with ?
[03:04] <Warbo> niruana: Well that seems a little weird. You can always mess around with the menus with Alacarte (in Applications>Accessories)
[03:04] <mwe> Warbo: I don't know. I haven't used fglrx for a while but I think it needed the "Load DRI"
[03:04] <Warbo> Olathe: Nero, at speed 4, usually works
[03:04] <howekern> Yet another question: I've noticed some graphics glitches the last boot or two, any way I can figure out what's going on?  Like, do failing chip-sets produce typical symptoms?
[03:05] <Olathe> Alright, thanks.
[03:05] <shinobi2> how can i make 'cal' to highlight today's date?
[03:05] <capiCrimm> how can I tell what program is using(or blocking) my soundcard?
[03:05] <niruana> they tell me to do: In Gnome in the panel, press the right botton and add to it GKsu. Right click in the GKsu icon and in properties change "ksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator " to "ksu nautilus /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator". Now, appears a file manager with root privilegies.
[03:05] <Zyfo> I've got a windows partition that's called "hda1", I'd like to called this "Windows" instead. Is it somehow possible to re-mount (or even better - rename) this drive without damaging the disks data?
[03:05] <Warbo> capiCrimm: "fuser /dev/dsp"
[03:05] <Zyfo> to call this*
[03:05] <Lvip> soundray:  How would fix that convert doesn't regonised jpeg?
[03:05] <Warbo> Zyfo: Is that it's name in /media?
[03:06] <Zyfo> Warbo, media\hda1, yeah
[03:06] <howekern> ...you could make a /windows directory, and change fstab so that the partition is mounted there, if that's what you mean?
[03:06] <soundray> Lvip: 'sudo apt-get install libjpeg62'
[03:06] <hbi> hey can any1 help me i keep getting an error in setting up the UI server for kismet it cant bind to 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.0 the problem only arose after installing nessus could this be stopping it?
[03:06] <Zyfo> howekern, I guess it is - as long as it changes the "places" name and windows doesn't stop working I'm fine with it
[03:06] <Lvip> Already newest version, soundray.
[03:06] <Warbo> Zyfo: Please repeat that without using Microsoft's incompatibility-creating naming system
[03:07] <Zyfo> Warbo, what do you mean?
[03:07] <soundray> Lvip: what's the output of 'file yourimage.jpeg'?
[03:07] <howekern> Oh, I think you're talking about it's name in something like the gnome "places" menu, and of how to work with that I've no clue, sry.
[03:07] <Warbo> Zyfo: It is /media/hda1. What did you write?
[03:07] <mwe> Zyfo: /media/hda1 not \media\hda1
[03:07] <Lvip> P1020097.jpg: JPEG image data, EXIF standard
[03:07] <Zyfo> Warbo, I don't want them to be called C D E etc, I just want them to have fancier nicknames, last install (screwed it up) it worked fain for some reason to rename
[03:07] <Zyfo> Warbo, oh, haha, sorry :D media/hda1
[03:07] <Warbo> Zyfo: I was refering to the backslash
[03:07] <Zyfo> I see
[03:08] <mwe> Zyfo: /media, a leading slash
[03:08] <soundray> Lvip: can you post the convert command you are trying please?
[03:08] <Zyfo> yeah
[03:08] <Zyfo> !fstab
[03:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[03:08] <Zyfo> thank you ubotu.
[03:08] <Lvip> convert -resize BLAH file.jpg sm-file.jpg
[03:08] <Warbo> Zyfo: They are usually mounted by their partition label (I know I have a partition which mounts as /media//home, which is really weird)
[03:08] <Zyfo> !partitions
[03:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:08] <Warbo> Zyfo: But I don't know how to change the labels. Maybe with fdisk
[03:08] <Zyfo> Warbo, ok
[03:09] <Ronz> Ok...world of warcraft. It's up and running fine, but my keybindings aren't working. Anyone have an idea?
[03:09] <Zyfo> Warbo, hmm, I'll just look around a bit and see what I find (and learn)
[03:09] <soundray> !fstab
[03:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[03:09] <Zyfo> thanks again
[03:09] <howekern> Anybody know if copying over sources.list will mess up sources.d?  Or if that's even what it looks like, a daemone related to sources?
[03:09] <shinobi2> glxgears is running really slow, it move like on tooth per second
[03:09] <_Gandalf_> Hi guys, I just want to know, does ubuntu have a CVS/SVN/Whatever repository ??
[03:09] <soundray> ubotu, no, fstab is The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that should be mounted on system boot. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[03:10] <Zyfo> soundray :D
[03:10] <Lvip> heh.
[03:10] <Zyfo> nice and easy programming
[03:10] <soundray> Lvip: convert file.jpg -resize BLAH sm-file.jpg
[03:11] <mwe> what is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ good for?
[03:11] <Warbo> mwe: If LOADS of sources are used it can help
[03:11] <mwe> Warbo: so files in there would all work like seperate sources.list files?
[03:12] <Warbo> mwe: Oh, yes. Sorry, I thought you realised what is IS, but thought it was stupid
[03:12] <soundray> Lvip: or 'cp file.jpg file-sm.jpg && mogrify -resize BLAH file-sm.jpg'
[03:12] <Warbo> mwe: Mnay files in /etc can be replaced with multiple files in a folder ending in .d
[03:12] <mwe> yes
[03:13] <kazukisan> How do i get better play back of dvd's when there is alot of movement the picture get these lines in it, in other distros i didnt see that ???
[03:13] <Warbo> !dma
[03:13] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> kazukisan,  mostof the video players got lots of filtering you can do
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> assuming its not a dma stuttering issue.
[03:14] <kazukisan> k
[03:14] <soundray> kazukisan: read up on the options that your video player software has for deinterlacing
[03:14] <Lvip> But soundray.
[03:14] <soundray> Lvip: working now?
[03:14] <Lvip> convert -list format does not list "JPG".
[03:15] <kazukisan> Dr_Willis: im using totem
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> i perfer vlc
[03:15] <Warbo> I use Ogle for DVD
[03:15] <soundray> Lvip: okay - it does here... Where did you get your package from, and what version is it?
[03:15] <Lvip> I use Gxine for DVD.
[03:15] <kazukisan> amd DMA is already on
[03:15] <Lvip> I got it through apt-get
[03:15] <kazukisan> and *
[03:16] <soundray> Lvip: I mean version of imagemagick
[03:16] <Lvip> And accordingly is newest version.
[03:16] <soundray> Lvip: which repository?
[03:16] <Warbo> Lvip: I use the radio station s built into GXine, and that is it. And most of those don't even work :)
[03:16] <Lvip> Version 6.2.5
[03:16] <soundray> Lvip: are you running edgy?
[03:16] <mwe> !info imagemagick
[03:16] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In repository main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4064 kB
[03:16] <Lvip> Nope.
[03:17] <soundray> Then you didn't get 6.2.5 from ubuntu.
[03:17] <mwe> Lvip: appearently you somehow got a wrong package installed then
[03:17] <Lvip> I do recall compiling it.
[03:17] <Lvip> But I thought it was on my desktop I did that.
[03:18] <Warbo> AA! This lack of sudo is killing me (but not the process causing it, sadly) so I'm going to boot into recovery mode and get rid of /sbin/iwlist
[03:18] <darth_gimp> Can someone help me with mounting some drives?
[03:19] <Warbo> !mount
[03:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:19] <darth_gimp> 1 floppy and 1 partitioned HD
[03:19] <howekern> The new sources.list didn't work.
[03:19] <steven> Uhh..
[03:20] <steven> For what?
[03:20] <steven> Did you use Automatix?
[03:20] <Lvip> soundray.
[03:20] <Lvip> Got it.
[03:20] <soundray> Lvip: so you come in here, swearing and blaming Ubuntu developers for your homemade problem. Embarrassing...
[03:20] <howekern> Mesa still wants to install version 6.5 of certain libs, which don't seem to be in apt.. oh, and I have a problem where lots of opengl/mesa packages try to install version 6.5 of things, even though they don't work with version 6.5 of... things.
[03:20] <Lvip> I am embarresed.
[03:20] <Lvip> Stop reminding me, kay?
[03:20] <soundray> ;)
[03:20] <Lvip> I got both versions of the convert  file.
[03:20] <Lvip> Located different places.
[03:21] <darth_gimp> warbo what am I to do there?
[03:21] <soundray> Now tell me that the ubuntu one works, please, Lvip
[03:21] <Lvip> It just happens that it searches in the /usr/local/bin dir before the /usr/bin dir.
[03:21] <mwe> Lvip: get rid of the wrong version
[03:21] <mwe> Lvip: remove imagemagick files under /usr/local/bin
[03:21] <meatballhat> Does anyone have the patience to help with a PHP/Apache2 problem?
[03:21] <Stormx2> how can i see what apps are using internet, and on what ports?
[03:22] <mwe> Stormx2: sudo netstat -ntlp
[03:23] <Lvip> meatballhat:  Try see in #apache
[03:23] <bimberi> Stormx2: sudo netstat -plunt
[03:23] <mwe> Stormx2: or sudo lsof -i
[03:23] <trafiq> anyone try compile 2.6.17.7 in Edgy ? :
[03:23] <soundray> !edgy
[03:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:23] <darth_gimp> brb checking something...
[03:23] <kazukisan> Dr_Willis: Hey vlc doesnt do anything when i click open dvd ?
[03:25] <meatballhat> Lvip: thanks - I'll do that :-)
[03:25] <mwe> why does ubuntu have such crazy code names :)
[03:25] <Lvip> Cause it is so crazy. :)
[03:25] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:25] <Lvip> And unlike Windows, Linux distro can have such crazynames. :)
[03:25] <steven> Yeah!
[03:25] <Lvip> Other than the fact that Vista means Chicken in some language.
[03:25] <dodgyville> Hello
[03:25] <mwe> !schedule
[03:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:25] <minerale> Hello, dear sisters and bretheren .... I'm making an attempt to play a dvd, albeit the wicked application won't get me past the 'title' notices (ie, fbi, rated r etc)
[03:25] <steven> We don't have to be like 'XP' or 'Vista'...
[03:25] <soundray> mwe: what do you expect from a leader who calls himself the SABDFL ;)
[03:26] <steven> minerale, Look at RestrictedFormats.
[03:26] <steven> !RestrictedFormats
[03:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:26] <mwe> soundray: heh. I didn't know but it explains it somewhat
[03:26] <steven> OH YEAH!
[03:26] <steven> Steven got one command right.
[03:27] <steven> Basically, because Linux doesn't pay a licensing fee to use the codecs, the Linux community is pirating if they DO use them.
[03:27] <steven> Unless you don't live in the US. Do you live in the US?
[03:27] <dodgyville> I have a handheld device that I want to see in lsusb as a "Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget", at the moment it is loading as a "Linux-USB File Storage Gadget". Now, I do believe the handheld is running the correct drivers...
[03:27] <minerale> steven: i've gone through the list and have installed everything blindly, should I not use totem ?
[03:27] <Stormx2> I have the Java Runtime Envirnoment (sun's) installed, and java apps run, except firefox still won't run Java applets. Why?
[03:27] <steven> minerale, Did you just ignore everything I typed?
[03:27] <dodgyville> Don't worry
[03:27] <minerale> Steven, yeah I have  gone through that wiki page
[03:28] <steven> Yeah, did you totally skip over the party about piracy and codecs?
[03:28] <soundray> Stormx2: amd64?
[03:28] <Stormx2> soundray: Nope.
[03:28] <niruana> hmmm is there no C compiler standard in ubuntu?
[03:28] <niruana> i want to install kismet
[03:29] <Stormx2> niruana: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:29] <steven> Damn. Storm beat me to it.
[03:29] <Stormx2> niruana: Your name is almost nirvana :D
[03:29] <steven> Damn you, Storm! :D
[03:29] <Stormx2> lol ;-)
[03:29] <niruana> it isnt!! :P
[03:29] <Stormx2> >.<
[03:29] <niruana> hehe
[03:29] <soundray> Stormx2: find out where 'libjavaplugin.so' and similarly named files landed and copy them to one of the plugin directories.
[03:29] <niruana> long story aboout my nick :)
[03:30] <bimberi> niruana: kismet can be installed from the universe repository btw (no need to compile)
[03:30] <Stormx2> soundray: OK, thanks
[03:30] <DarkMageZ> niruana, we don't ship the compiler by default, cause we don't expect people to use it. you can install it with build-essential
[03:30] <niruana> how does it works?
[03:30] <Stormx2> soundray: didn't turn up any results O.O
[03:30] <niruana> sudo apt-get install build-essential ? :|
[03:30] <Warbo> Getting rid of iwlist seems to have fixed bootup
[03:30] <soundray> Stormx2: did you search with locate? Run updatedb first.
[03:30] <niruana> how does it know that is has to "build" kismet stuff?
[03:31] <DarkMageZ> niruana, according to bimberi, kismet already has a package
[03:31] <Stormx2> soundray: Ill do that.
[03:31] <bimberi> !info kismet
[03:31] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB
[03:31] <DarkMageZ> niruana, you should just install the package
[03:31] <niruana> ow cool
[03:31] <Stormx2> soundray: Still nothing :(
[03:31] <mwe> locate will only search in some common predefined paths
[03:31] <niruana> in what section ubotu  ?
[03:31] <Stormx2> niruana: You're talking to a bot
[03:31] <soundray> Stormx2: or do a 'dpkg -L package | grep libjavaplug' on the jre package
[03:32] <steven> !kalendar
[03:32] <Stormx2> OK soundray
[03:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about kalendar - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:32] <steven> Aww...
[03:32] <steven> :(
[03:32] <niruana> lol Stormx2  ok :P
[03:32] <soundray> !info kalendar
[03:32] <ubotu> Package kalendar does not exist in dapper
[03:32] <DarkMageZ> niruana, you will find kismet in the universe repository, have you enabled universe?
[03:32] <bimberi> niruana: install kismet using the synaptic package manager, you'll need to enable the universe repository ...
[03:32] <niruana> no
[03:32] <bimberi> !universe
[03:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:32] <Stormx2> soundray: Eek, still nothing. Im using sun-java5-jre, that ok?
[03:33] <soundray> Stormx2: should be...
[03:33] <bimberi> niruana: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[03:33] <Stormx2> soundray: :( Ima go check the wiki
[03:34] <niruana> thx allot
[03:34] <bimberi> niruana: np :)
[03:35] <soundray> Stormx2: is your file db up to date?
[03:35] <Stormx2> soundray: I wouldn't know.
[03:35] <polo_> hi!
[03:36] <soundray> Stormx2: run 'sudo updatedb' to be sure
[03:36] <Stormx2> soundray: Apparently I need sun-java5-plugin XD
[03:36] <polo_> i hace a problem,  im using xine, and i can reproduce the wmv format, but the mpeg format is beeing reproduced with no sound
[03:37] <Warbo> What servers do I need to run to make an ethernet router's Internet accessible through WiFi? DNS? DHCP?
[03:37] <soundray> Stormx2: oh, is it in a separate package now?
[03:37] <polo_> does anyone kwon what pluging is missing?
[03:37] <Stormx2> soundray: Apparently ;-) hope it works hehe
[03:37] <guenter> leaving
[03:37] <Tsukaggin> Hey, how do I get the hardrive icons off my desktop? I have the icons for my other (windows) partitions sitting on my desktop and I can't remove them.
[03:38] <will> hi, is there any quick guide to spamassasin? Is there some clear guide to read and configure spamassasin with sendmail?
[03:38] <niruana> adn is there no easy way to enter WPA-PSK into your wifi card?
[03:38] <niruana> *and
[03:39] <Warbo> Tsukaggin: Go in System Tools>Configuration Editor>apps>nautilus
[03:40] <Tsukaggin> Ah. Uncheck Volumes Visible.
[03:40] <Tsukaggin> Gotcha.
[03:40] <Tsukaggin> Thanks.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !networkmanager
[03:40] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[03:40] <Tsukaggin> I always look for the complex method, and forget small stuff like this.
[03:40] <roostishaw> what is the equivalent to    per_count=$(printf "%02d\n" $num_count)    in python?
[03:40] <niruana> installed that Dr_Willis i can only select WEP but no WPA
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> niruana,  hmm.. i used it to  set up wpa i think.
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> niruana,  unless its thinking your card cant hanndle wpa
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> but then again - that program was the FIRST thing ive ever had that actually got my wireless working. :)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> so i am not too fond of wireless in general
[03:42] <niruana> it can handle WPA
[03:42] <polo_> i hace a problem,  im using xine, and i can reproduce the wmv format, but the mpeg format is beeing reproduced with no sound
[03:42] <polo_> does anyone kwon what pluging is missing?
[03:42] <Ninjadude> hi everyone.....i have a bit of an "advanced" question regarding nautilus scripting...
[03:42] <Ninjadude> anyone in here a pro?
[03:42] <Ninjadude> (actually its not that advanced but i cant seem to find appropriate resources on it anywhere)
[03:42] <minerale> ninjadude: maybe in ##gnome
[03:42] <Ninjadude> ah, alright
[03:44] <aro-ron> I need some help. For some reasonthat I dont understand... whenever I log out of ubuntu, or restart X, instead of taking me to the logon screen. ubuntu crashes and locks up, and all I see is garbled trash on the screen. Nothing reponds or anything
[03:44] <Ninjadude> actually im back.....maybe someone can answer this here anyway, its more of a basic thing than a gnome thing
[03:44] <Warbo> I want to make my Internet access publicly available through Wifi. What servers do I need to run?
[03:45] <Ninjadude> i just want to know how to change the icon of a folder using the command line instead of right-clicking etc
[03:45] <lophyte> Warbo: you need to get an access point :)
[03:46] <soundray> Warbo: no servers needed, you just have to setup NAT. firestarter is one way to do that
[03:46] <Warbo> lophyte: I have a Wifi router, which I have lent to a mate (should be getting it back tomorrow, since I've found the book he lent me ages ago), but surely Linux can be set up as a server? That's where it's strength lies (and that would give me greater control for bandwidth limiting)
[03:46] <niruana> how do i search for hidden files ? locate ... x ?
[03:46] <lophyte> Warbo: you can't set up a Linux PC as an access point, as far as I know
[03:47] <niruana> lol you can lophyte
[03:47] <soundray> lophyte: that is not correct
[03:47] <lophyte> don't you need a certain chipset to do it though?
[03:47] <niruana> i didnt thougt so
[03:47] <nullifx> whats the best software for monitoring internet activity of other computers on a network?
[03:47] <niruana> wifi nullifx  ?
[03:48] <lophyte> I know there's a "hostap" driver but it only works with a specific chipset last I knew
[03:48] <soundray> lophyte, niruana: some drivers do not support ap mode
[03:48] <Warbo> The Networking dialog is just for connecting to an existing network then isn't it? Since it is asking for either a static IP or DHCP (which is why I was wondering if I needed to run DHCP servers and stuff)
[03:48] <lophyte> Warbo: yup.
[03:48] <nullifx> niruana: yes
[03:49] <niruana> nullifx: kismet is the best
[03:49] <RideSn> anyone up for fielding a GRUB question?
[03:49] <liquidscythe> hey
[03:49] <liquidscythe> i have a problem
[03:49] <liquidscythe> when im in my internet browser FF
[03:49] <liquidscythe> theres no sound for flash files
[03:49] <liquidscythe> WTF
[03:49] <soundray> RideSn: ask your question, then see if we're up for it
[03:49] <liquidscythe> like when im on youtube i cant hear anything
[03:49] <niruana> Warbo: ask in #remote-exploit
[03:50] <RideSn> i start with creating 2 partitions on my 60gb toshiba mk6025gas hdd and install windows xp pro w/
[03:50] <RideSn> slipstream sp2 on c: . Install goes fine, windows boots normal, etc. I then install dapper on the
[03:50] <RideSn> second partition(30gb and 20gb respectively), totally default install, and all appears well. when i
[03:50] <RideSn> reboot the machine i get to: "GRUB loading stage 1.5  GRUB loading, please wait..." no error
[03:50] <RideSn> reported. the system just hangs right there. . i've hunted for answers hi and low today
[03:50] <soundray> liquidscythe: disable ESD (System-Prefs-Sound, uncheck sound server startup)
[03:50] <Asc_> How can I set the update manager to never download something?  I'm running kernel 2.6.17, I don't want to download the 2.6.15-24 source, or the 2.6.15-26 image either
[03:51] <liquidscythe> where
[03:51] <liquidscythe> can you help me though it
[03:51] <soundray> liquidscythe: it's all in my answer.
[03:52] <wickers> Warbo, a linux box with a wifi adapter can act as an access point using what is called hostap. On top of that you can add dhcpd, dns (yes you will need to act as a DNS or at least point your clients to a working dns), a form of QoS (quality of service), a form of quota (bandwidth capping, or limiting) and a hand full of other services which all depends on what exactly you want to do.
[03:52] <liquidscythe> wtf
[03:52] <liquidscythe> where is that
[03:52] <niruana> liquidscythe:  just do what he wrote down?
[03:52] <niruana> system - sound - unwink ESD
[03:52] <Warbo> wickers: Thanks a lot, that's just waht I was after. I wanted a list of stuff to research and you've given me quite a few :)
[03:52] <niruana> *uncheck
[03:53] <liquidscythe> k
[03:53] <liquidscythe> now what
[03:53] <liquidscythe> bitch
[03:53] <liquidscythe> lol jk
[03:53] <lophyte> !language
[03:53] <Warbo> !language
[03:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:53] <Warbo> !enter
[03:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:53] <niruana> !kick
[03:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about kick - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:53] <niruana> lol
[03:54] <wickers> Warbo, honestly, a cheap WAP is often your best bet.. the only advantage of using linux as a access point is the fine control it gives you. So if you just want to give others free wifi a $30 access point will save you the headache.
[03:54] <Dial_tone> is anyone having trouble burning cd's lately? I can burn a dvd iso but audio cd's fail everytime
[03:54] <twobitsprite> so... I have a bunch of WMA formated files -- legally, of course ;) -- and rhythmbox says invalid file format, or something... I thought I had all of the codecs installed, I can play mp3s, etc... what am I missing?
[03:54] <liquidscythe> it didnt work
[03:54] <niruana> wickers: do you know something about WPA-PSK ?
[03:54] <liquidscythe> good work retard
[03:54] <liquidscythe> lol
[03:54] <Warbo> wickers: I already have one, but I lent it to a mate. I am curious about running my own though
[03:54] <wickers> niruana, I know 'something' about it, yes.
[03:55] <shinobi2> how do i get flash plugin for firefox?
[03:55] <Warbo> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:55] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:55] <Warbo> !multiverse
[03:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:55] <niruana> can you get it working in ubunto wickers  ?
[03:55] <niruana> i dont see any option in ubuntu to enter a WPA key...
[03:55] <klees> is there a way to hide the title bar under metacity??
[03:55] <liquidscythe> IT DIDNT WORK
[03:56] <liquidscythe> RETARD
[03:56] <liquidscythe> JK
[03:56] <Warbo> !language
[03:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:56] <Warbo> !enter
[03:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:56] <Warbo> !caps
[03:56] <wickers> Warbo, another thing you could consider, if you already have a router that is non-wireless, you can setup a linux box with a wifi adapter to act as just an access point, and forwarding everything else to the router (dns, dhcp, ntp, etc...) Letting it take care of the dirty work.
[03:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:56] <wickers> niruana, look up wpa_suppliment
[03:56] <niruana> idd readed about it
[03:56] <soundray> wickers: ...-supplicant?
[03:57] <niruana> but i'm not whiser of it now
[03:57] <niruana> i need to make my own config or something, could you help me trough it step by step wickers  ?
[03:57] <RideSn> any thoughts on my grub loader issue?
[03:57] <wickers> niruana, I don't use WPA that often. (I do encripted VPN over an open wireless signal)
[03:58] <wickers> niruana, so I would really not be the best to ask. ANd I don't have the time at the moment.
[03:58] <liquidscythe> I STILL CANT HEAR SHIT
[03:58] <Warbo> wickers: Good idea. I bought two routers, one with a modem and one with wifi, since it was cheaper than one with both, but I am just interested in what's possible to do. I obviously want to have priority for bandwidth, but thought some other stuff may be interesting to do as well.... Mind you, I can't even get port forwarding to work on my wired router :)
[03:58] <[NP] Tangent> is there a way to get battery status in the terminal?
[03:58] <eigenlambda> i just got a patch into gnome-terminal
[03:58] <eigenlambda> liquidscythe: plz2not yell
[03:58] <soundray> gnomefreak, ping
[03:58] <eigenlambda> hard2chat
[03:59] <eigenlambda> yell on irc.gnaa.us only plz
[03:59] <dadgumit> working on getting dual heads going in dapper, ati x800xl, dissimilar monitors and resolutions. Have been trying the guide from breezy, but the closest I have gotten this far is one monitor alive, and weirdness (firefox will start, be open according to the sys prefs window, but not be selectable, or in the task bar or whatnot)
[03:59] <wickers> Warbo, not all NAT routers are build equal ;) port forwarding can be a pain if the router is on crack.
[03:59] <dadgumit> help?
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <wickers> Warbo, good luck with your wifi project.
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <soundray> !ops
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <liquidscythe> i still cant hear shit
[03:59] <niruana> am i here?
[03:59] <niruana> unpluged my eth :S
[03:59] <Hobbsee> darn, too slow.
[04:00] <wickers> liquidscythe, you won't get that much help by acting like that.
[04:00] <Warbo> wickers: I have tried it through the web interface, and even found a site specifically about my router, telling me the telnetted commands. No luck though, my programs still say "firewalled"
[04:00] <Hobbsee> [12:00]  <wickers> liquidscythe, you won't get that much help by acting like that.
[04:00] <eigenlambda> so i just got a patch into gnome-terminal that fixes a fairly important usability issue.  it can easily be added to our gnome-terminal too, not just cvs-head there
[04:00] <spring> hi how do i create executable bash file so a click will execute it
[04:00] <dadgumit> liquidscythe: being a tard isn't going to enable sound
[04:00] <niruana> ok thx wickers
[04:00] <soundray> Thanks nalioth, Hobbsee
[04:00] <nalioth> liquidscythe: please be civil
[04:00] <ic56> # balb
[04:01] <eigenlambda> i suppose i should put it as a bug in launchpad if i want to see the improvement any time soon huh.
[04:01] <dadgumit> working on getting dual heads going in dapper, ati x800xl, dissimilar monitors and resolutions. Have been trying the guide from breezy, but the closest I have gotten this far is one monitor alive, and weirdness (firefox will start, be open according to the sys prefs window, but not be selectable, or in the task bar or whatnot) any help?
[04:01] <wickers> bbiab
[04:01] <liquidscythe> how do i enable sound in DD
[04:01] <liquidscythe> FF
[04:01] <dadgumit> !FF
[04:01] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:01] <Warbo> !sound
[04:01] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:01] <liquidscythe> wtf
[04:02] <liquidscythe> that helps me not
[04:02] <dadgumit> it helps me though, wasn't sure I knew what you meant by FF
[04:02] <Warbo> liquidscythe: Firefox doesn't usually make sounds. What is the real problem?
[04:02] <liquidscythe> no
[04:02] <liquidscythe> like on youtube
[04:02] <niruana> he doesnt have flash sound Warbo
[04:02] <dadgumit> and maybe say I have tried, ystem -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa, and it didn't work
[04:03] <liquidscythe> i try to watch the movies
[04:03] <wthww> hey guys, i think i found a solution to some of the problems with the wg111v2 wifi card
[04:03] <liquidscythe> BUT I CANT HEAR
[04:03] <liquidscythe> wtf
[04:03] <Warbo> Ah
[04:03] <Warbo> Flash is crappy
[04:03] <dadgumit> fist step, relax
[04:03] <Warbo> Try "fuser /dev/dsp" to see what is using the soundcard
[04:03] <soundray> Warbo, dadgumit: don't feed the troll pls
[04:03] <spring> ok a real simple question, which file from /etc do i modify so each time i execute a binary the env var in ./bashrc can get imported
[04:03] <dadgumit> meh
[04:03] <wthww> the iwndows xp drivers for the wg111v2 is the problem with ndis wrapper and that card
[04:04] <Snake> How can I get ubuntu to not display things I have mounted in the desktop?
[04:04] <spring> i played with /etc/profile, doesn't seem to work
[04:04] <dadgumit> working on getting dual heads going in dapper, ati x800xl, dissimilar monitors and resolutions. Have been trying the guide from breezy, but the closest I have gotten this far is one monitor alive, and weirdness (firefox will start, be open according to the sys prefs window, but not be selectable, or in the task bar or whatnot) any help?
[04:04] <wthww> if you use the windows 2000 ones, it works
[04:04] <soundray> dadgumit: sorry, didn't mean to be harsh
[04:04] <spring> dapper reminds me of diaper, a real bad name
[04:04] <Warbo> Snake: Applications>System Tools>Configuration Editor>apps>nautilus
[04:04] <dadgumit> soundray: :P no worries I deserved it
[04:04] <Snake> spring: Dapper means well dressed ;)
[04:04] <eigenlambda> spring: ???
[04:04] <Snake> Warbo: thanks very much
[04:05] <spring> hehe
[04:05] <soundray> spring: can you please rephrase: what are you trying to do?
[04:05] <Snake> spring: were a well dressed dragon (or duck)
[04:05] <Warbo> Does wearing diapers make you dapper?
[04:05] <eigenlambda> spring: plz 2 not sound like a gnaa person
[04:05] <dadgumit> any help with dual heads?
[04:06] <Snake> Warbo: I have no "System Tools"
[04:06] <sethk> dadgumit, what's the problem?
[04:06] <niruana> same here Snake
[04:06] <dadgumit> working on getting dual heads going in dapper, ati x800xl, dissimilar monitors and resolutions. Have been trying the guide from breezy, but the closest I have gotten this far is one monitor alive, and weirdness (firefox will start, be open according to the sys prefs window, but not be selectable, or in the task bar or whatnot) any help?
[04:06] <Warbo> Snake: Go in Applications>Alacarte Menu Editor and enable Configuration Editor
[04:06] <Snake> Oh okay
[04:06] <FourPointNine> This channel is for getting help right?
[04:06] <spring> soundray: i need to have access to some environment variables from ./bashrc whenever i run eclipse by clicking its icon
[04:06] <Warbo> FourPointNine: Yep
[04:07] <bimberi> FourPointNine: yes, occasionally :)
[04:07] <FourPointNine> Alright.
[04:07] <sethk> dadgumit, you have to get both monitors up at the same time before you can draw any conclusions from anything such as firefox
[04:07] <dadgumit> sethk: I think I must be close, cause I can get x to start, but not run programms correct, do I need to reconfigure my install for dual heads or something?
[04:07] <RideSn> take a stab at this one. .
[04:07] <RideSn> i started with creating 2 partitions on my 60gb toshiba mk6025gas hdd and install windows xp pro w/ slipstream sp2 on c: . Install goes fine, windows boots normal, etc. I then install dapper on the second partition(30gb and 20gb respectively), totally default install, and all appears well. when i reboot the machine i get to: "GRUB loading stage 1.5  GRUB loading, please wait..." no error reported. the system just hangs right there. . 
[04:07] <dadgumit> sethk: I wasn't drawing conclusions, just trying to give as much info as possible for diagnostics
[04:07] <soundray> spring: write a bash wrapper for eclipse that exports the variables you need and associate that with the icon.
[04:08] <Snake> w00t ubuntu got pwned
[04:08] <Vermyndax> evenin
[04:08] <Snake> thanks Warbo
[04:08] <CyDrive> Does anyone know a good graphics compiler for Dev C++?
[04:08] <dadgumit> thought it was weird, and FF works all other times
[04:08] <FourPointNine> If I place an Ubuntu Server CD in the CD Drive while Ubuntu is running will it convert my ubuntu desktop into the server edition?
[04:08] <nalioth> Snake: are you getting helped in here?
[04:08] <Snake> nalioth: indeed
[04:08] <sethk> dadgumit, it is weird, but I don't think it helps with dual heads.
[04:08] <SurfnKid> RideSn, hope you didnt have to install Windows either, you dont have to
[04:08] <snoops> is there a way to detect when a monitor is plugged into a graphics card, same with tv card?
[04:08] <sethk> dadgumit, can you paste your xorg.conf to the paste bot?
[04:08] <spring> soundray: I tried that, it works but was wandering if i can tweak /etc/profile or similar so i don't have to run shell script
[04:08] <bimberi> CyDrive: anjuta is one
[04:08] <SurfnKid> RideSn, i mean reinstall windows after that error, i had the same thing happen
[04:09] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: I don't believe it will
[04:09] <snoops> err say with tv out on graphics card rather*
[04:09] <RideSn> surfinkid: well it would still be nice
[04:09] <soundray> spring: maybe you just need to export your variables.
[04:09] <SurfnKid> RideSn, I just reinstalled Dapper and grub came right bak up
[04:09] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: my understanding is that the only difference between ubuntu-server and normal ubuntu is the ubuntu-desktop meta package
[04:09] <Warbo> snoops: Well, monitors can be detected somehow, so surely running a monitor detector will tell you if one is plugged in or not
[04:09] <SurfnKid> RideSn, was able to go into my XP partition fine
[04:09] <dadgumit> seth, which one you want? Ihave the one that ati tried to make itself, I have the cleaned up verision I made (which will let X run with windows, and I have my funcitoning one monitor one
[04:10] <thejoe> whats the best rss reader for ubuntu???
[04:10] <Vermyndax> Giant squid: caught on camera: next saturday on discovery channel!
[04:10] <Warbo> !best
[04:10] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:10] <FourPointNine> I thought the server had LAMP already on it.
[04:10] <RideSn> surfnkid: yes that wasnt a problem
[04:10] <spring> soundray: a system exported variables reside in where? I tried /etc/profile, doesn't work
[04:10] <SurfnKid> RideSn, wicked, so its workin now
[04:10] <diesel> Anyone have any idea why my gnome-cups-manager does not list any printers at all?
[04:10] <snoops> Warbo okay.. do you know of a service to detect when one is plugged in?
[04:10] <sethk> dadgumit, start with the one ati install created
[04:10] <RideSn> surfnkid: im sorry, no i can't boot either OS when it hangs up
[04:11] <spring> window may have bad name but i found developing on win much easier than linux, always run into problems, have to hunt down unstable packages to make things work
[04:11] <sethk> diesel, it hasn't found any printers.  How is your printer connected?
[04:11] <RideSn> surfnkid: but when inside ubuntu i can mount the windows partition
[04:11] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: you can do a LAMP install or just a server install, which is basically just the console
[04:11] <diesel> sethk: usb
[04:11] <dadgumit> sethk: will do, 1 sec, first time using paste bin
[04:11] <SurfnKid> RideSn, mmmm so you reinstalled Dapper then? and the error came back?
[04:11] <FourPointNine> So how can I install LAMP on the Desktop?
[04:11] <sethk> diesel, does lsusb show it?
[04:12] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: just apt-get install apache php mysql-server
[04:12] <sethk> diesel, when you turn the printer on, does dmesg show it as a new device?
[04:12] <lecaros> hi
[04:12] <diesel> sethk: yes
[04:12] <soundray> spring: if you define a variable in /etc/profile or .bashrc with 'VAR=something' it will only be available to the shell. If you follow it up with 'export VAR', it will be available to programs called by or from the shell.
[04:12] <diesel> sethk: lsusb shows the device
[04:12] <RideSn> surfnkid, with only dapper installed, grub is fine. it only hangs when windows is present
[04:12] <sethk> diesel, go through the add printer sequence.  Hopefully, when you get to the port setting, it will appear on the list of available ports.
[04:12] <RideSn> . . on the drive
[04:12] <Redrose> !java
[04:12] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:12] <lecaros> have you installed a compaq ij600 printer? (usb, detected as Lexmark Inkjet 4103)
[04:13] <diesel> sethk: gnome-cups-manager shows it as a detected device, but then installing drivers gives me no option of manufacturers
[04:13] <SurfnKid> RideSn, thats weird
[04:13] <soundray> RideSn: perhaps try the fix for grub mentioned here:
[04:13] <soundray> !grub
[04:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:13] <dadgumit> sethk: I lied, I don't have the one ATI tried to auto create
[04:13] <spring> soundray: thanks soundray, i will try that now :)
[04:13] <SurfnKid> RideSn, so you choose to boot to XP and it hangs
[04:13] <sethk> diesel, that sounds like the cups printer configuration file creation package needs to be install
[04:13] <RideSn> surfnkid, ok thanks for the help,i'll take a look
[04:13] <SurfnKid> RideSn,  sure thing
[04:13] <diesel> sethk: what is that package?
[04:14] <RideSn> surfnkid, no i don't get to that option
[04:14] <sethk> diesel, in synaptic, do a search for cups, see what shows as not yet installed
[04:14] <dadgumit> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19268
[04:15] <sethk> diesel, I think cupsys-driver-gimpprint and cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data will do it.
[04:15] <RideSn> surfnkid, it hangs before grub stage2
[04:15] <sethk> diesel, but if they are already installed, then I'm wrong  :)
[04:15] <SurfnKid> RideSn, so how are you bootin to Dapper
[04:15] <sethk> dadgumit, I'll take a look.
[04:15] <dadgumit> sethk: thnx
[04:15] <FourPointNine> I got this message when I tried to install LAMP: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:15] <FourPointNine> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:15] <eigenlambda> how long do you think it will take for ubuntu to package the new gnome-terminal?
[04:15] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: sorry, you have to do it sudo
[04:15] <ymmotrojam> anyone here know anything about installing eaccelerator?
[04:16] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: so the command would be "sudo apt-get install apache php mysql-server"
[04:16] <RideSn> surfnkid, either with the live cd or reformatting the whole drive and only having dapper installed on the whole drive
[04:16] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: it will ask for your password, then move on
[04:16] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: make sure Synaptic is closed
[04:16] <sethk> FourPointNine, try sudo
[04:16] <theshibboleth> I have a mac-formatted iPod and I tried to use gtkpod to sync my music library with my iPod. While it wrote the music files to the iPod, they aren't available to me to play.
[04:17] <spring> whats the short cut key to minimize all windows on desktop
[04:17] <diesel> sethk: those are not installed...will do that, then get back to you
[04:17] <SurfnKid> RideSn, do a low level format and check the MBR for any errors, then reinstall XP then Dapper and hope it works, its such a drag for the hdd but i know ya wanna have both OS's
[04:17] <sethk> diesel, k
[04:17] <FourPointNine> I got this message: E: Couldn't find package php.
[04:17] <RideSn> surfnkid, ok ill try right now
[04:17] <SurfnKid> RideSn, may the force be with you
[04:17] <Vermyndax> FourPointNine: hrm... gee... what's the php package, fellas?  php5?
[04:17] <SurfnKid> :)
[04:18] <RideSn> surfnkid, ;) thanx
[04:18] <ymmotrojam> anyone here know anything about installing eaccelerator with php?
[04:18] <SurfnKid> RideSn, np
[04:18] <timczer> surknkid: current php package is php5
[04:19] <dadgumit> sethk: you get a chance to look?
[04:19] <harisund> why does my lsb_release tell me 'no LSB modules available' ??
[04:19] <RideSn> surfnkid, BTW, lilo didn't work either when i tryed it
[04:19] <RideSn> we'll see
[04:19] <SurfnKid> yeah
[04:20] <sethk> dadgumit, your server layout section only has one screen line.  for dual monitors, it needs to have two screen lines (one for each monitor)
[04:20] <dadgumit> sethk: yeah, that is the one ATI made, I can show you my cleaned up one if you like
[04:21] <ymmotrojam> sorry, new to IRC, are people seeing this message?
[04:21] <sethk> dadgumit, ok, I'll look at it if you like
[04:21] <Zambezi> Java takes 497/98 (WM-size/RSS). Is it possible to kill java without problem?
[04:21] <vortexvein> I have a newly reformated ext3 partitioned hard drive that I'd like to access via USB. Thing is, don't have any permission to it. Am I reformating my Hard Drive Wrong? How do I get permission?
[04:21] <SurfnKid> ymmotrojam, yep
[04:21] <nelly> ymmotrojam: yep
[04:21] <SurfnKid> !lilo
[04:21] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:21] <Vermyndax> man this Dirty Jobs show is nasty
[04:21] <bimberi> ymmotrojam: nope
[04:21] <bimberi> ;)
[04:21] <SurfnKid> bimberi, hehe
[04:21] <ku> sensors
[04:21] <sethk> vortexvein, by default it is accessible to root.   use sudo and chmod, or sudo and chown, to allow others to access it
[04:22] <ku> oopS!
[04:22] <dadgumit> if you think you could help... I really think the fact that it will parse and start X but with wierdness is  a key to the problem
[04:22] <vortexvein> okay, I'll try that sethk
[04:23] <sethk> dadgumit, might be, but unless that tells you something it doesn't tell me, I don't see how it helps.
[04:23] <FourPointNine> where can I find apache's folder?
[04:23] <dadgumit> sethk: I was hoping it would tell someone on here something it didn't tell me
[04:23] <dadgumit> :)
[04:23] <bimberi> FourPointNine: /var/www
[04:24] <dadgumit> sethk: do you know of any reconfiguring I have to do with ubuntu other than X to get multi heads?
[04:24] <sethk> dadgumit, make sure xinerama is installed
[04:24] <dadgumit> sethk: accordign to what I have read, xinerama is supposed to NOT be installed with the ATI spanning
[04:25] <dura> Hai
[04:25] <Unintentional> does anyone know how to put a time limit on a script (i.e. auto-kill after x minutes?)
[04:25] <diesel> sethk: I installed cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[04:25] <wickers> So if I install 6.06, it will have security and bug updates for 3 years?
[04:25] <dadgumit> !xinerama
[04:25] <dura> Any eaccelerator users here running it on Dapper?
[04:25] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[04:25] <FourPointNine> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[04:25] <ymmotrojam> I'm a newbie when it comes to compiling software in linux. I have setup a webserver at my home which runs a pretty basic lamp setup, and I'm looking at installing eaccelerator to lessen the load on the server (my website is here http://www.wikible.org ). I don't know how to compile it though
[04:25] <sethk> dadgumit, you can do it either way.  I've had better results with xinerama
[04:25] <dura> Dapper Server...
[04:25] <diesel> sethk: however cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data was not found
[04:25] <bimberi> wickers: yes
[04:25] <dadgumit> sethk: I would prefer to have seperate monitors, since I have non similar resolutions
[04:25] <wickers> bimberi, I mean, without suscribing to official support.
[04:25] <Dial_tone> if you mark mail as junk in evolution, does that train spamassassin or just delete mail?
[04:25] <sethk> diesel, I show it in my synaptic.  possibly you don't have all repositories enabled?
[04:25] <dura> or not...
[04:26] <bimberi> wickers: yes
[04:26] <sethk> dadgumit, ok
[04:26] <wickers> I already have a few desktop boxen with ubuntu 6.06, but I want to setup a production server with it, just wat to be clear.
[04:26] <wickers> Something I don't want to have to reimage within the next three years.
[04:26] <diesel> sethk: I have universe and multivers
[04:26] <bimberi> wickers: it will be freely supported for 3 yeas (from 1/6/06)
[04:26] <wickers> Or pay for support for that matter.
[04:26] <bimberi> *years
[04:26] <wickers> Nice
[04:26] <vortexvein> i type in "sudo chmod" and I get "chmod: too few arguments"
[04:26] <wickers> :D
[04:26] <dura> Any eaccelerator users here running it on Dapper Server?
[04:26] <sanity> what is the simplest way to get the "mail" command working on an ubuntu system (ie. for sending email only).  right now there is no "mail" command
[04:27] <ymmotrojam> dura: I'm trying
[04:27] <dura> ymmotrojam:  I don't know what to edit in /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[04:27] <dura> It builds fine...
[04:27] <dadgumit> I have a problemwith getting multiple monitor's working anyone knowledgeable?
[04:27] <XGL_guy> Hello!
[04:27] <ymmotrojam> dura: I'm here to get support for it to, I have no clue how to set it up
[04:28] <vortexvein> to get permissions to my external hard drive do I type in sudo chmod /media/usbdisk-1 or what?
[04:28] <dura> ymmotrojam: Did you read the README in the uncompressed /dir ?
[04:28] <FourPointNine> I got this message when trying to save a HTML file there: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[04:28] <dura> vortexvein: man chown && man chmod
[04:28] <Redrose> !java
[04:28] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:28] <ymmotrojam> dura: yeah, it keeps giving me errors like the configure script doesn't exist
[04:28] <diesel> sethk: a search on packages.ubuntu.com also does not find cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data
[04:29] <vortexvein> okay, I type in man chown && man chmod and I get a manual
[04:29] <dura> vortexvein: Correct ... read the man pages and learn how to use chmod and chown.
[04:30] <niruana> exit
[04:30] <niruana> oeps
[04:30] <nalioth> ymmotrojam: some source pkgs don't have configure scripts
[04:30] <niruana> nn all ;) going to bed
[04:30] <phuzz> anyone know howto change the default sound card so its actually set as the default? (doesnt work for me)
[04:30] <dura> phuzz: Do you have more then oce?
[04:31] <dura> one
[04:31] <phuzz> yeah onboard and pci
[04:31] <dura> Any eaccelerator users here running it on Dapper Server?
[04:31] <dura> phuzz: Disable the onboard in the BIOS.
[04:31] <Dial_tone> if you update the kernel AFTER you have vmware-player installed what do you run to rebuild the kernel module?
[04:31] <the_rat> HELLO!!
[04:31] <phuzz> yeah i was thinking that
[04:31] <dura> phuzz: That's what I would do...
[04:31] <phuzz> thats the simplest answer?
[04:32] <ymmotrojam> nalioth: the directions I keep reading to install it are saying ./configure ...
[04:32] <nalioth> ymmotrojam: do you have "build-essential" installed?
[04:32] <ymmotrojam> I'll check
[04:32] <dura> sunspots... cast a glare in my eyes.
[04:32] <dura> :)
[04:33] <ymmotrojam> nalioth: I did not, but I have checked the uncompressed directory, and there isn't a configure file anyways
[04:33] <the_rat> does anyone knows how to configure moodle?
[04:33] <SurfnKid> !moodle
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about moodle - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:33] <SurfnKid> whats moodle
[04:34] <nalioth> ymmotrojam: perhaps it's in a subdir? or did you get the cvs/svn stuff and it not have a configure script?
[04:34] <dura> ymmotrojam: Read teh README first... there's more to it
[04:34] <FourPointNine> If I uninstalled Ubuntu and Installed the server edition would anything be different?
[04:34] <dura> ymmotrojam: I just installed eaccelerator.
[04:34] <dura> the rc1
[04:34] <the_rat> moodle is a system for online learning
[04:35] <dura> That's why I'm asking about php.ini heh
[04:35] <dura> Had you read the README ...
[04:35] <ymmotrojam> yeah, I'm working off of that version as well ;-)
[04:35] <ymmotrojam> I'll look at it now
[04:35] <ymmotrojam> I did look at it though, I'll look at it more carefully now
[04:35] <vortexvein> okay, reading the manual was useless.
[04:36] <vortexvein> I still have no clue as to how to get permission to my external hard drive
[04:36] <XGL_guy> Does using the username directory already made make Ubuntu delete it if it users it?
[04:36] <liquidten2> XGL_guy:  The directory will be preserved.
[04:37] <XGL_guy> well, 20Gb of my data is deleted from my /home/user directory
[04:37] <dura> heh
[04:37] <XGL_guy> When I install ubuntu
[04:37] <ymmotrojam> dura: it mentions the php prefix, where is that in a default install of php5?
[04:38] <XGL_guy> installed*
[04:38] <ymmotrojam> on ubuntu dapper
[04:38] <XGL_guy> liquidten2, it's all gone :/
[04:38] <dura> ymmotrojam: /usr/bin
[04:38] <dura> Do whereis php
[04:39] <trafiq> any ide for this bug while compiling kernel http://wklej.org/id/3d7a494223 ?
[04:39] <trafiq> idea*
[04:39] <Trevor1> Dial_tone: try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209 I haven't yet tried it myself
[04:39] <roostishaw> how do i test if a command i ran in a python script was successful?
[04:40] <dadgumit> tryign to get spanned monitors, best I have done this far is to have X configured and it will start, and the second monitor will come out of sleep, but no image. Also, i have noticed firefox will not start (actually it will start, and will be runing in the process list, but wont be availabel to me) if that helps
[04:41] <madewokherd> roostishaw: it depends on how you invoked it
[04:41] <SurfnKid> is there a simple database server besides mysql that isnt so big and i can query one table
[04:41] <madewokherd> if you have a process id, you can do os.wait
[04:41] <roostishaw> madewokherd, print "test"
[04:41] <ymmotrojam> dura: what's this phpize file? I don't have it
[04:41] <shawnr_> [ubuntu dapper / gnome / swiftfox]  most flash banners are staying on top of web site menus and stuff. there a way around this?
[04:41] <bkudria> where do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?
[04:42] <Dial_tone> thanks
[04:42] <zoidberg> hey there everyone
[04:42] <zoidberg> i have a question
[04:43] <dura> lol
[04:43] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out?
[04:43] <zoidberg> ?
[04:43] <roostishaw> zoidberg, you dont hav to ask to be helped, ask it
[04:43] <sponotch> ask it
[04:43] <zoidberg> i luv venture brothers
[04:43] <sponotch> :-)
[04:43] <zoidberg> lol
[04:43] <zoidberg> ok
[04:43] <dura> Dr. Zoidberg
[04:43] <dura> me too lol
[04:43] <zoidberg> i have ubuntu (actually xubuntu) breezy badger on a G# powerbpook
[04:43] <cpk2> !ask
[04:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:43] <zoidberg> i'm having some problems with my FLASH drive
[04:43] <ymmotrojam> dura: what's this phpize file? I don't have it
[04:44] <Leeif> IS there any way to make the terminal background transparent? I DO USE XGL
[04:44] <roostishaw> zoidberg, ...go on...
[04:44] <zoidberg> wehn i go to disks
[04:44] <zoidberg> i see that it is there
[04:44] <zoidberg> but it says no partiiton
[04:44] <zoidberg> and i dont know how to access it...basically i dont know if its mounted or not
[04:44] <dura> Any eaccelerator users here running it on Dapper Server?
[04:45] <zoidberg> i looked at several forums
[04:45] <zoidberg> but i cant figure it out
[04:45] <zoidberg> ?
[04:45] <mnvl> how do i configure firewall / ie which ports accept incoming connections and from whom? (dapper)
[04:45] <dura> mnvl: sudo aptitude install firestarter
[04:45] <dura> Use that to set it up.
[04:45] <ubuntu> hey
[04:46] <sponotch> I'm having a heck of a problenm with GRUB!   I try to boot into my other OS(XP) and it just keeps repeating "GRUB" but will not boot.  Any ideas?
[04:46] <dura> sponotch: Reinstall grub
[04:46] <sim_> hey.. how do i get mp3 support on linux..what prog do i get?
[04:46] <dura> grub-install /dev/hda or whatever disk it's on
[04:46] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with my problem?
[04:46] <sycho> Any suggestions on a good torrent client and newgroup reader?
[04:46] <mnvl> yes but dura i haven't installed such a thing and yet it seems my machine is not accepting incoming connections
[04:46] <zoidberg> i cant get USB flash drive to work
[04:46] <bkudria> where do i change the mixer that my keyboard's volume up and volume down keys change?
[04:46] <shawnr_> [ubuntu dapper / gnome / swiftfox]  most flash banners are staying on top of web site menus and stuff. there a way around this?
[04:46] <dura> sim_: Search the Ubuntu Docs site for Restricted Formats
[04:46] <cpk2> sponotch: did you install windows first or second? windows likes to pretend no other os' exist that need to boot if you install it second
[04:47] <sponotch> First, I've had this setup for a while, but it just started giving me problems
[04:47] <ymmotrojam> anybody familiar with a phpize file or heard of it? it's in relation to eacclerator and php of course (dapper-server)
[04:47] <dura> mnvl: Did you try to configure the network?
[04:47] <Leeif> IS there any way to make the terminal background transparent? I DO USE XGL
[04:47] <dura> lol
[04:47] <dura> ymmotrojam: What do you need help with about it?
[04:47] <dura> Being I just installed it...
[04:48] <mnvl> the network devices are working, but incoming connections are refused
[04:48] <sponotch> dura: I already tried reinstalling it to the MBR (I think)  it's HD0
[04:48] <ymmotrojam> well, I keep trying, and it keeps saying that it doesn't exist, do I just create it myself? I'm not understanding. the directions seem to assume that it's already there
[04:48] <Leeif> ..................................................................
[04:48] <dura> mnvl: What are you trying to connect with?
[04:48] <Zambezi> I Just a question. I would like to change WM from Xfce to Fluxbox without reboot and lose all running applications. Is that possible.
[04:48] <dura> sponotch: grub-install /dev/hda
[04:48] <mnvl> nc on localhost as well
[04:48] <dura> backup your menu.lst first...
[04:48] <sponotch> dura: I'll give it a shot.  Thx for the help everybody
[04:49] <dura> np
[04:49] <dura> ymmotrojam: , Keep trying what?
[04:49] <derrickh> is anyone familiar with installing fglrx?
[04:49] <zoidberg> can anyone help me use my USB FLASH DRIVE on badger?
[04:49] <dura> ymmotrojam: Do this first:    export PHP_PREFIX="/usr"
[04:49] <dadgumit>  tryign to get spanned monitors, best I have done this far is to have X configured and it will start, and the second monitor will come out of sleep, but no image. Also, i have noticed firefox will not start (actually it will start, and will be runing in the process list, but wont be availabel to me) if that helps
[04:49] <dura> ymmotrojam: Then do: $PHP_PREFIX/bin/phpize5
[04:50] <ymmotrojam> just following the directions. the two files I'm having issues with are te configure and the phpize...
[04:50] <dura> If you don't have it, install php5-dev
[04:50] <dura> ymmotrojam: Just copy and paste what I'm punching in here for you
[04:51] <ymmotrojam> k, installed php5-dev
[04:51] <dura> ymmotrojam:  Okay now try the phpise5 line again
[04:52] <dura> -s +z
[04:52] <ymmotrojam> the same exact thing? just ... "$PHP_PREFIX/bin/phpize5"
[04:52] <dura> ymmotrojam: Yes
[04:53] <ymmotrojam> k
[04:53] <knapper> Whats a good download manager for gnome?
[04:54] <sponotch> ugh, no luck with the grub reinstall
[04:54] <sponotch> any other ideas?
[04:54] <ymmotrojam> k, you mentioned "-s +z". was that comment for me or another user?
[04:54] <Dial_tone> sweet, you can have vmware workstation and player installed
[04:54] <dura> ymmotrojam: I miss-spelled phpize5
[04:54] <dura> with an s
[04:54] <derrickh> I am installing fglrx and on the wiki site it says to recompile the kernel module after each kernel update.  how does one go about doing this?
[04:54] <dura> heh
[04:55] <dura> I still need to figure out what to edit in php.ini
[04:56] <ymmotrojam> dura, so what next, don't mean to bother
[04:56] <HLM> 8-) the more i use ubuntu...the more i like it 8-)
[04:57] <gekko`> ^_^
[04:57] <shawnr_> anyone know where the flash config file is located?
[04:58] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i indicate multiple conditions in python?
[04:59] <dura> ymmotrojam: No worries
[04:59] <dura> hang on
[04:59] <safrican_> has anyone tried to use backports today ?
[04:59] <dura> ymmotrojam: ./configure \--enable-eaccelerator=shared \--with-php-config=$PHP_PREFIX/bin/php-config
[04:59] <ymmotrojam> dura, actually, I think I may have it, a bunch of stuff flashed before my eyes, and it said build complete
[04:59] <sim__> hey how come i cant get msttcorefonts
[04:59] <safrican_> because i CANNOT use it today or yesterday or the past few days - its been bugging me really
[04:59] <roostishaw> safrican_, works for me
[04:59] <sim__> whats it renamed to
[05:00] <safrican_> roostishaw: really ? - hrmm... what have you done to get it to work ?
[05:00] <dura> ymmotrojam: You need to do ./configure like I posted above.
[05:00] <ymmotrojam> yeah, I did that
[05:00] <dura> ymmotrojam: Then to make &&make install
[05:00] <dura> cool
[05:00] <roostishaw> safrican_, um... had its entry in my sources.list... no?
[05:00] <dura> then you're set
[05:00] <safrican_> roostishaw: i added the repositories [dapper-backports]  and did apt-get update a few times.. but i cannto install the latest version available in backports
[05:00] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i indicate multiple conditions in python?
[05:00] <ymmotrojam> cool, did that and it worked
[05:00] <dura> now if you can figure out what to add to php.ini heh...
[05:00] <roostishaw> yep
[05:00] <ymmotrojam> heh ;-)
[05:00] <ymmotrojam> atleast I feel like i got somewhere
[05:01] <mnvl> there isn't a configuration file or so which says which connections should be accepted?
[05:01] <sim__> hey how do i kill a program that froze?
[05:01] <eigenlambda> what does "in progress" mean in a bug report?
[05:01] <dura> mnvl: What are you trying to connect with again?
[05:01] <dura> I missed it...
[05:01] <mnvl> nc
[05:01] <mnvl> from the same host
[05:02] <ymmotrojam> sim_: do a "ps -e" and look for it's process id, then do "kill (id number)"
[05:02] <sim__> ok thx ymmo
[05:02] <dura> mnvl: From the same host? I mean are you trying a browser? ssh?
[05:02] <mnvl> using netcat
[05:02] <mnvl> my browser can connect to localhost
[05:03] <dura> mnvl: In order for the computer to accept connections, the port has to be open.
[05:03] <sim__> ymmotrojam: what would Add/Remove applications be called?
[05:03] <dura> a port
[05:03] <dura> synaptics @ sim__
[05:03] <uXp> anyone know why my sounds doesn't work anymore?
[05:03] <dura> uXp: What did you do to it?
[05:03] <uXp> it stopped all of a sudden
[05:03] <uXp> nothing
[05:03] <navyn> hey guys is there any way to set what i want my default music player to be?  Right now, the default says movie player, and I want xmms to automatically open mp3 files
[05:03] <uXp> it just stopped
[05:03] <sim__> dura: i wasl ooking for that, but its not in the list
[05:03] <SurfnKid> uXp, reboot, happens to me all the time, did you come out of standby?
[05:03] <uXp> no
[05:04] <dura> sim__: Open a terminal and type  synaptics
[05:04] <uXp> just booted into ubuntu since like 2 days ago and now it doesnt work
[05:04] <sim__> dura: command not found
[05:04] <dura> sim__: What do you want to install?
[05:04] <sim__> xmms
[05:04] <sim__> and fonts
[05:05] <len> Hi, can any1 help me?
[05:05] <dura> sim__: sudp aptitude update    then     sudo aptitude install xmms
[05:05] <sim__> but add/remove apps just froze
[05:05] <dura> type xkill in a terminal and kill it
[05:05] <dura> by clicking on it
[05:05] <sim__> ok done, thats easy, someone told me to ps -e and i was looking for id, but it wasn't listed.
[05:06] <sim__> dura: i was trying to install plugins that allow mp3
[05:06] <len> I'm having some problems to install my video card
[05:06] <dadgumit>  tryign to get spanned monitors, best I have done this far is to have X configured and it will start, and the second monitor will come out of sleep, but no image. Also, i have noticed firefox will not start (actually it will start, and will be runing in the process list, but wont be availabel to me) if that helps
[05:06] <len> does ne1 knows how to solve it?
[05:07] <sim__> dura: so theres no apt-get? i should use aptitude?
[05:07] <dura> sim__: Yes there's apt-get too
[05:07] <dura> you can use that
[05:07] <uXp> WOW
[05:07] <uXp> out of nowhere it works now
[05:07] <dura> sim__: apt-cache search foo |less
[05:07] <XXS> english i suppose?
[05:07] <XXS> yes
[05:08] <zoidberg> guys can someone PLEASE HELP ME mounting this USB flash drive?
[05:08] <sim__> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts  -- it says that package doesn't exist
[05:08] <cpk2> zoidberg: ubuntu should autodetect it when you plug it in?
[05:08] <sim__> i was trying to install the windows fonts,
[05:08] <zoidberg> well i'm acutally have xubuntu on right now
[05:09] <zoidberg> and it seems it is detected
[05:09] <uXp> ha found out why
[05:09] <zoidberg> coz when i go to Disks Manager
[05:09] <zoidberg> it is there in /dev/sda
[05:09] <Dewbie> omg they got the source code for linux
[05:09] <Dewbie> run! hide!
[05:09] <zoidberg> but i dont know how to access it or to know if it is mounted
[05:09] <uXp> you cannot use TeamSpeak and a MUSIC player at the same time
[05:09] <uXp> !!!
[05:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:09] <derrickh> While trying to recompile the kernel i cannot install libncurses5-dev...i get this error Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate
[05:09] <derrickh> .  how do i force the install?
[05:09] <Len> does any1 know how to install Geforce 7800Gtx on Ubuntu?
[05:10] <rexykik> !nvidia > Len
[05:10] <Len> ?
[05:10] <rexykik> !nvidia
[05:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:11] <juanjose_> alguien habla espanol
[05:11] <Len> i'll take a look
[05:11] <grte> Hmm...So I compiled and used checkinstall to make a deb for elinks, and I get this error: bash: /usr/bin/elinks: No such file or directory
[05:11] <grte> I imagine checkinstall installed it to the wrong place, does anyone know the command to choose where it goes?
[05:11] <Len> I already followed few others tutoriais without success
[05:12] <zoidberg> okay guys doesnt look like i can get much help here for the FLash drive....so i have another question
[05:12] <zoidberg> i have brezzy badger here and it starts and logs in i hear the music
[05:12] <zoidberg> but then it just hangs...i can move the cursor but nothing else happens
[05:13] <ymmotrojam> dura: I just added that info that the eaccelerator website said to put in php.ini... I just added it to the end of the file, and it seems to be working... I don't know if that's correct, but that's the way i did it
[05:13] <grte> Err, I was mistaken.
[05:13] <ardchoille> There's music when you log in??
[05:13] <zoidberg> yeha
[05:13] <grte> Does anyone know the command to add to ./configure to choose where an app gets installed?
[05:13] <zoidberg> yeha
[05:13] <uXp> how do i terminate a running proccess?
[05:14] <XXS> i'm using ubuntu 5.10 and i feel too dumb to get mp3s to work :( how do i install the codecs for it?
[05:14] <grte> uXp: killall <process>
[05:14] <uXp> i don't know hte proccess name
[05:14] <ardchoille>  ./configure --prefix=/path ?
[05:14] <grte> ardchoille: Okay, thanks.
[05:14] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:14] <zoidberg> ardcgoille
[05:14] <zoidberg> what about me
[05:14] <zoidberg> any help?
[05:14] <shimmi> hello
[05:14] <gekko`> uXp: what do you know about the process then?
[05:14] <grte> By the way, where do binaries usually go in ubuntu?
[05:15] <shimmi> how do i make grub boot spalsh screen for boot
[05:15] <uXp> Music is still playing after i exited the process
[05:15] <uXp> I want to terminate a proccess that is still running, but not showing up on the taskbar
[05:15] <ardchoille> zoidberg: I would ctrl+alt+f1, log in and do: cat ~/.xsession-errors
[05:15] <roostishaw> anyone, whats wrong with this?  http://pastebin.ca/107693
[05:15] <gekko`> uXp: but you dont know the name?
[05:16] <uXp> amaroK
[05:16] <uXp> is he name of the music player
[05:16] <ardchoille> zoidberg: might give you some info about the problem
[05:16] <gekko`> grte: usually /usr/bin
[05:16] <roaet> lo
[05:16] <grte> gekko`: Thanks.
[05:16] <zoidberg> well i have ubuntu badger
[05:16] <roaet> I have this error: [4708148.020000]  ReiserFS: hdg5: warning: sh-2006: read_super_block: bread failed (dev hdg5, block 16, size 512)
[05:16] <zoidberg> with gnome and XFCE
[05:16] <gekko`> uXp: ps ax | grep amarok shows you the id of the process
[05:16] <zoidberg> i mainaly use sfce
[05:16] <ardchoille> grte: Most of the time, I do  ./configure --prefix=/usr
[05:16] <grte> Now to see if I can get elinks running...
[05:16] <ceruleantiger> I'm having a mouse problem where my PS/2 mouse does not seem to be detected, but I can plug in a usb mouse and it works fine for whatever reason. The PS/2 mouse was working, and I haven't changed much other than maybe a kernel upgrade
[05:16] <zoidberg> xfce but i want to do something in ggnone
[05:17] <zoidberg> and it logs in
[05:17] <gekko`> uXp: then use kill -9 <id>
[05:17] <zoidberg> i haear the music and i can move the cursor but nothing else appears on the desktio or anything else
[05:17] <uXp> omg, i don't know the ID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:17] <ceruleantiger> also, I cannot boot into the older kernel because my keyboard is not detected when grub runs (I guess it starts working later), so I can never get into anything other than the default for grub
[05:17] <roaet> ...
[05:17] <roostishaw> anyone, whats wrong with this?  http://pastebin.ca/107693
[05:17] <grte> Well, how do you expect to kill a process if you don't know which process it is?
[05:18] <grte> You're going to have to find out.
[05:18] <gekko`> "05:17 < gekko`> uXp: ps ax | grep amarok shows you the id of the process"
[05:18] <cpk2> uXp: try "ps aux"?
[05:18] <sim__> use xkill and click on the window itll kill it
[05:18] <darth_gimp> under DOS I could unzip multiple packages. How can I do that in Ubuntu?
[05:18] <Asc> grte: with pgrep (name)
[05:18] <ceruleantiger> PS - I'm running a 100% linux box so selecting options from grub has so far not been an issue
[05:18] <snowman> greetings
[05:18] <derrickh> When trying to install libncurses5-dev i get the error message 'Package libncurses5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:18] <derrickh> is only available from another source
[05:18] <derrickh> '  I tried reinstalling libncurses5 but that didnt fix the problem.  does anyone know to do this?  (i am trying to recompile the kernel and libncurses5-dev is needed for makeconfig
[05:18] <grte> Asc: Yeah.
[05:19] <Len> how can i find the appropriate module for my kernel. I mean how do I know that?
[05:20] <snowman> could someone perhaps tell me how to get a screen resolution of higher than 1024x768?  the machine is quite capable of it, and I have added "1280x1024" to the appropriate lines in xorg.conf.  Thanks.
[05:20] <grte> Does anyone know the which operators are necessary to untar a .bz2 archive?
[05:20] <crimsun> a tar.bz2 archive? xf
[05:20] <crimsun> If you want all the switches, use xfj
[05:20] <grte> Okay, thanks.
[05:20] <ceruleantiger> snowman, try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select the appropriate resolutions, then restart x
[05:20] <darth_gimp> under DOS I could unzip multiple packages. How can I do that in Ubuntu?
[05:21] <crimsun> tar is intelligent enough to detect whether it's gzipped or bzipped
[05:21] <grte> darth_gimp: unzip <file1> <file2> <file3> etc.
[05:22] <darth_gimp> grte, is there no wildcard option like *.zip ?
[05:22] <snowman> thanks :)
[05:22] <snowman> brb
[05:22] <grte> No, wildcards will work.
[05:23] <grte> unzip *.zip should work just fine.
[05:23] <roostishaw> anyone, whats wrong with this?  http://pastebin.ca/107693
[05:24] <XXS> how do i install mp3-codec in ubuntu5.10 ? i tried apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad as it's said on help.ubuntu.com but this throws an error
[05:24] <snowman> thanks! :D  it worked :)
[05:25] <roostishaw> anyone, whats wrong with this?  http://pastebin.ca/107693
[05:25] <gekko`> XXS: liblame0
[05:25] <Len> I think I'm doing something wrong my video card still not working
[05:25] <Len> :(
[05:26] <XXS> gekko`,  it says it couldn't find liblame0
[05:26] <roostishaw> sudo apt-get update?
[05:26] <roostishaw> XXs
[05:26] <XXS> sudo apt-get install
[05:26] <roostishaw> XXS
[05:26] <uXp> ha found it!
[05:26] <XXS> shall i use sudo apt-get update?
[05:27] <roostishaw> did ouy?
[05:27] <roostishaw> *you
[05:27] <XXS> no
[05:27] <gekko`> apt-cache search liblame
[05:27] <XXS> this doesn't echo anything gekko`  :o
[05:27] <grte> better yet, alias searchpkg='apt-cache search', then searchpkg liblame
[05:27] <darth_gimp> grte, "unzip *.zip" didn't work...
[05:27] <grte> Hmm...Alright, just a sex.
[05:27] <grte> :s/sex/sec
[05:27] <gekko`> Len: do you get any error?
[05:27] <XXS> well i'm currently doing this update @ roostishaw
[05:28] <XXS> it still couldn't find liblame0 :(
[05:28] <roostishaw> idk then
[05:28] <roostishaw> anyone, whats wrong with this?  http://pastebin.ca/107693
[05:28] <XXS> idk?
[05:28] <XXS> k
[05:28] <grte> darth_gimp: I'd try going through the unzip manpage, because I know what you want to do is possible.
[05:28] <grte> I'm just having trouble remembering how.
[05:28] <sim__> yo guys how do i install fonts such as tahoma, arial, etc? web sites look weird
[05:28] <XXS> gekko` any other idea? :(
[05:29] <gekko`> XXS: maybe you dont have the necessary respository
[05:29] <Len> gekko, When i restart the X it says it cant be loaded or something like that.  I need to restore my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use Gnome again
[05:29] <uXp> anyone know of a good music player besides xmms?
[05:29] <sim__> amarok?
[05:29] <sim__> winamp? loljk
[05:30] <uXp> besides that, confusing, lol
[05:30] <uXp> haha
[05:30] <gekko`> Len: do you have the _exact_ error message?
[05:30] <grte> Excellent, I've gotten elinks to compile.
[05:30] <Perseid0> Kaffeine is a simple little media player.
[05:30] <grte> Thanks for all the help, folks.
[05:31] <Dravas> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[05:31] <ardchoille> grte: Why did you compile elinks? Did you know that elinks is in the repos?
[05:31] <ardchoille> !info elinks
[05:31] <ubotu> elinks: advanced text-mode WWW browser. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.10.6-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 825 kB, installed size 3292 kB
[05:31] <Dravas> I dunno what it would be
[05:31] <stephans> how can you tell if a service is running?
[05:31] <brett_tolbert> i'm trying to install libgpod and when i run "./configure" it runs like its going to compile and then hangs at "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" i'm new to linux. any ideas as to whats going on?
[05:31] <roostishaw> anyone, whats wrong with this?  http://pastebin.ca/107693
[05:31] <ardchoille> !repeat > roostishaw
[05:31] <ardchoille> roostishaw: Mabye join #bash?
[05:31] <gekko`> stephans: do you know the name of the service?
[05:32] <Len> gekko': I'm new @ linux I dont know if I have it or not. Besides my Ubuntu it's in portuguese so I dont know if it would be helpfull for u
[05:32] <XXS> ah gekko` i think it works now :)
[05:32] <roostishaw> ardchoille, but its not bash
[05:32] <XXS> thank you so far
[05:32] <Perseid0> Having sound problems. My sound card is detected and works in Amarok, Kaffeine and Neverwinter Nights, but not in KDE itself. No system sounds, Test Sound does nothing and Rosegarden locks up the computer. Any ideas?
[05:32] <gekko`> XXS: no problem
[05:32] <XXS> :)
[05:32] <Dravas> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel in Ubuntu 6.06? I'm trying to install VMWare Workstation...
[05:32] <gekko`> Len: do you use gnome or kde?
[05:32] <stephans> gekko: yes... i tried /etc/init.d/dovecot status
[05:32] <Len> gnome
[05:33] <Dravas> lol
[05:33] <Dravas> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel in Ubuntu 6.06? I'm trying to install VMWare Workstation...
[05:33] <gekko`> stephans: check ps aux | grep dovecot
[05:33] <crimsun> Dravas: Install linux-headers-$(uname -r), which will populate /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/  properly
[05:33] <stephans> ok
[05:34] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> somebody knows a "mail notification" for gnome?
[05:34] <Len> gekko`: gonme
[05:34] <brett_tolbert> hey guys, i'm new with linux and when i try to "./configure" libgpod i get "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" anyone know what this means?
[05:34] <gekko`> Len: which graphics card do you use?
[05:35] <Len> gekko`: Geforce 7800 Gtx
[05:35] <crimsun> brett_tolbert: install libxml-parser-perl
[05:35] <gekko`> Len: and you installed nvidia-glx?
[05:35] <brett_tolbert> cool, is that in synaptics package manager?
[05:35] <crimsun> brett_tolbert: yes.
[05:36] <mrproper> How can I tell Ubuntu to reinstall the stock version of a package after I installed a custom version?
[05:36] <sethk> brett_tolbert, it means what it says.  you need to install that perl module
[05:36] <abbot45> having a problem making an audio cd in k3b.  every time i click on an mp3 file to add it it says "unable to handle file due to an unsupported format"
[05:36] <sethk> brett_tolbert, the main perl web site tells you how to do it
[05:36] <crimsun> abbot45: install libk3b2-mp3
[05:36] <Len> gekko`: I had installed it but from what I've read in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia now I use nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:37] <Jenkens> gahhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:37] <brett_tolbert> ok, i'll see what i can do; thanks
[05:37] <Jenkens> why does backspace go all wonky i screen
[05:37] <leed> My openoffice.org can't be loaded after upgrade.
[05:37] <sim__> how do i install windows fonts such as tahoma, arial, etc on ubuntu? websites lookw erd with diff fonts
[05:37] <sim__> whats the package name?
[05:37] <crimsun> sim__: msttcorefonts
[05:38] <abbot45> thanks crimsun.  just wish serpentine wouldn't freeze every time i try to use it.
[05:38] <leed> So I remove it and reinstall it.
[05:38] <leed> But it alse can't be loaded.
[05:38] <leed> In terminal, I try to run openoffice, it reply: fopen() failed, no such file or dictorary
[05:38] <gekko`> Len: why legacy? you need nvidia-glx. check this list: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[05:39] <brett_tolbert> hey crimsum, i found libxml-parser-perl in synaptics and i'm installing it. thanks. i also installed build-essential while ago but i guess it didn't do perl, just c, c++ & java
[05:39] <crimsun> brett_tolbert: correct.
[05:40] <Len> gekko`: Yeah, dont read it properly
[05:40] <gekko`> ok, then remove legacy and install nvidia-glx
[05:40] <Dewbie> legacy drivers for anything suck
[05:41] <brett_tolbert> hmm, libgpod still doesn't want to configure. now i get: "configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0 gobject-2.0) were not met."
[05:41] <Dewbie> may as well pull out the 5 1/4 floppies
[05:41] <Len>  gekko`: how do I know which linux-restricted-modules I should use?
[05:42] <gekko`> Len: just do an apt-get install nvidia-glx but before remove nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:43] <snoops> 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' Len
[05:43] <Len> thx snoops
[05:43] <snoops> $(uname -r) evaluates to your current version
[05:43] <leed> so how can I reinstall openoffice.org correctly?
[05:44] <cpk2> leed you could probably purge your current install and then apt-get it
[05:44] <Len> snoops: and when it dont find, what do I do?
[05:44] <snoops> hmm?
[05:44] <leed> purge?? How to?
[05:45] <snoops> leed sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[05:45] <leed> Thanks, Let me try it now
[05:46] <Len> snoops: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) -> E: Impossible to find any package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[05:46] <Len> which repository I should add?
[05:46] <ash__> is this working
[05:46] <snoops> may need to add universe and multiverse..but I thought it was in security.. oh well
[05:48] <gekko`> Len: do you use dapper drake?
[05:49] <Len> gekko : 6.06 LTS - Dapper Drake
[05:49] <FourPointNine> How do I uninstall ubuntu?
[05:50] <gekko`> Len: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[05:50] <gekko`> download the package from there
[05:50] <Len> kk
[05:50] <amphi> FourPointNine: cat /dev/zero over the partition
[05:50] <purserj> anyone know about the breezy livecd bootstrapper?
[05:50] <ash__> can i use my yahoo messenger from here?
[05:50] <gekko`> ash__: ?
[05:51] <leed> Thanks, purge works.
[05:51] <ash__> some said once i get to here i should be able too use my yahoo chat
[05:52] <FourPointNine> What is the difference between the server edition and the desktop?
[05:52] <AngryElf> what version of glib does ubuntu ship with?
[05:52] <belzar> hey all.. is there a way to play a burnt dvd on ubuntu? i am trying but i cant ever get it to work
[05:53] <CarlFK> belzar: can you play a normal DVD?
[05:53] <joshuapurcell> desktop edition contains a liveCD function as well as being able to install the OS to your hard drive if you like. the server edition uses the server kernel, and I believe there isn't a restricted-modules package for that kernel (if i'm not mistaken). that's just one difference between the server and desktop versions
[05:54] <Len> Gekko: i got the following msg when I click list_of_files link from that page:
[05:54] <Len> Package Contents Search Results
[05:54] <Len> You have searched for the contents of linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 in dapper, architecture i386.
[05:54] <Len> Can't find that package, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[05:55] <FourPointNine> Are there any graphical changes between the two?
[05:55] <joshuapurcell> this may not be the case with other people's install of server, but when i chose the expert path on server i didn't get an X environment... but i was also installing without an internet connection, so maybe the installation had to connect to the repos in order to get X
[05:55] <CarlFK> FourPointNine: 'server' doesn't come with any apps or X installed.  just things like networking, bash and apt-get so you can apt-get what you need
[05:55] <snoops> how can I extend the length of time that sudo remembers my password in the gui>
[05:56] <joshuapurcell> i did the X install after the initial install. i don't know of any graphical differences if you do install X... other than the restricted modules (including nvidia drivers) not being available on server
[05:56] <FourPointNine> Oh. It doesn't automatically come with LAMP?
[05:56] <joshuapurcell> yes it does (on server)
[05:56] <gekko`> Len: go back and click on i386 and not list of files
[05:56] <joshuapurcell> you will see it in the install options at first bootup
[05:56] <CarlFK> FourPointNine: LAMP is an option on the server CD boot menu
[05:56] <joshuapurcell> off the server Cd
[05:57] <FourPointNine> Can the server edition be installed on an external harddrive?
[05:57] <Len> gekko: yeah... it's dling now. My bad
[05:57] <CarlFK> FourPointNine: yes.
[05:57] <CarlFK> Should I be able to mount two things on the same mount point?
[05:57] <FourPointNine> Thanks for all the help. =)
[05:57] <FourPointNine> .
[05:57] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: no
[05:58] <CarlFK> mister_roboto: didn't think so.  but I did :)
[05:58] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: you can only access one path on the mount point though. you mean you never umounted the old one?
[05:58] <CarlFK> mister_roboto: correct
[05:59] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: hmmm that sounds dangerous. umount cleans up the mounted filesystem
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> installing ubuntu on my laptop was dangerous (I had no idea wtf I was doing)
[05:59] <CarlFK> mister_roboto: just 2 .iso's  so not going to loose any data
[06:00] <[NP] Tangent> but I did it
[06:00] <paganini> So, I'm running Dapper, and I was messing around with glx/compiz today. It was cool, but really bogged my system down. After I undid my changes, my X installation was really borked. Can anyone tell me what steps I need to take to reinstall X without reinstalling my entire system?
[06:00] <[NP] Tangent> experimentation is how progress is made
[06:01] <Len> gekko`: should I remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 and leave only linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386? or can I leave both?
[06:01] <belzar> Carlfk: no, it says i do not have the apropriate plugins to play dvds
[06:01] <kana> paganini: the easiest way is to purge xserver-xorg and reinstall ubuntu-desktop package. you will have to do a lot of download though for your xserver have a lot of dependent stuff on it
[06:01] <ku> Does anybody know how I could get embeded music on web sites to play over firefox? It says I'm missing a plugin, but won't give me an option to install anything if I click install. I've tried installing both the Totem and Xine plugin for Firefox and they did nothing
[06:01] <Warbo> "After unpacking 1301MB disk space will be freed" I love debfoster :)
[06:01] <paganini> OK
[06:01] <paganini> What does a "purge" entail?
[06:01] <mister_roboto> paganini: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:01] <Warbo> ku: check out mozpluger
[06:01] <Warbo> !info mozplugger
[06:01] <paganini> Cos, I uninstalled the xserver-xorg package
[06:01] <ubotu> mozplugger: Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 192 kB
[06:01] <paganini> Reinstalling it didn't fix it
[06:01] <joshuapurcell> paganini: i believe it may be as easy as a reconfigure of the X package
[06:02] <CarlFK> !restricted format
[06:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about restricted format - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:02] <CarlFK> !restricted formats
[06:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <gekko`> Len: you can leave both
[06:02] <ku> Warbo: cool, i'll take a loot into that, Thanks
[06:02] <paganini> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't fix it
[06:02] <CarlFK> belzar: read those links
[06:02] <mister_roboto> paganini: well i guess not if you uninstalled xserver :)
[06:02] <paganini> Hehe
[06:02] <kana> paganini: try it but in my case i had to purge and reinstall xserver
[06:02] <paganini> Well I tried dpkg-reconfigure before I tried reinstalling
[06:03] <CarlFK> ku - your music issue may be a restricted format issue too
[06:03] <ku> CarlFK: I don't think so, I already got all those codecs
[06:03] <kana> ku is it a realplayer plugin
[06:03] <Len> gekko`: is it common to have this problem when I execute sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[06:03] <kana> for the realplayer plugins that come with mozilla-mplayer is upto realplayer 9 only
[06:03] <Len> lecneri@len:~/Desktop$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:04] <Len> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:04] <Len> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[06:04] <Len> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[06:04] <Len> command:
[06:04] <Len> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[06:04] <ku> kana:  don't think so... it's ytmnd ^^
[06:04] <Len> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[06:04] <Len> from nv to nvidia.
[06:04] <Len> sorry my spam :(
[06:04] <gekko`> Len: nex time use
[06:04] <gekko`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:05] <kana> ku: and you have the mozilla-mplayer package installed
[06:05] <ku> kana: hmm, I think I had it in the past, I'll see if i removed it for some reason
[06:05] <spring> just a silly question do u ppl keep a copy of files in /var/cache/apt/archives for backup purpose
[06:06] <Perseid0> OK. Last call for help. I have sound in Amarok and Kaffeine, but no system sounds and no MIDI anywhere.
[06:06] <Warbo> spring: I always keep it cleaned out
[06:06] <kana> ku if you have both the totem plugin and the mozilla-mplayer firefox will only use the totem plugin by the way
[06:06] <Hobbsee> spring: no.  why would you?
[06:06] <gekko`> Len: what does "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv" output
[06:06] <belzar> thanks carlfk
[06:06] <ku> kana:  ahh ic, I'll remove totem then
[06:06] <Warbo> spring: Actually, I would clean it out right now, since you reminded me, but I am removing loads of stuff at the moment
[06:06] <kana> ku: not totem just the firefox plugin forgot the package name
[06:06] <spring> because I have downloaded 300 MB of files via synaptic, if i reinstall ubuntu, i have to download again
[06:07] <joshuapurcell> Perseid0: Have you tried to test sound before starting amarok or kaffeine?
[06:07] <ku> kana: ahh there ya go, i unsinstalled totem and it worked
[06:07] <ku> ^^ thanks
[06:07] <kana> ku: your welcomed
[06:07] <spring> next time i reinstall ubuntu,  if i have copy, i only have to use 'cp -u bla bla' like that
[06:07] <spring> i think
[06:08] <Warbo> spring: That's true. But I dislike clutter on my system (I just spent the past half hour or so going through debfoster to get rid of clutter)
[06:08] <Perseid0> joshuapurcell: I beleive so
[06:09] <spring> Wanderer: how do u prevent downloading the same thing next time?
[06:09] <spring> data costs $$$
[06:09] <Len> gekko`:  Driver          "nv"
[06:09] <Len> should I put nvidia?
[06:09] <Warbo> spring: Disk space costs  :)
[06:09] <joshuapurcell> Perseid0: i mean sometimes i'll start a program and sound is working fine, then for some reason sound doesn't work after using something like the Skype client (even after the client is shut down)
[06:09] <gekko`> Len: right
[06:10] <spring> Warbo: disk space is cheap nowadays :)
[06:10] <Warbo> (1>$1 as well, so I beat you :))
[06:10] <Warbo> spring: But I only have 250GB! That's nowhere near enough for even a server installation!
[06:10] <the_hammer> hey all
[06:11] <spring> Warbo: 250GB not enough for u!!!!
[06:11] <joshuapurcell> Perseid0: you could try playing an audio file with some program other than amorok or kaffeine first to make sure that sound does work properly, then pull up one of those two programs and test, then test again with some other program after shutting down one of those two programs
[06:11] <Len> gekko` and should I comment Load	"dri"?
[06:11] <joshuapurcell> Persedi0: that may at least tell a little more about what is causing the problem
[06:11] <Warbo> spring: Actually I have about 40GB free at the moment, but bear in mind that I have suffered a couple of hard drive failures recently and I had to start my collection of junk from scratch a couple of months ago
[06:12] <spring> just 1 more silly question, is ubuntu safe for commercial deployment of web app?? I spent so much time getting used to it, will be a shame if it's not
[06:12] <gekko`> Len: show me your xorg.conf. paste it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the link
[06:14] <spring> anyone got vmware running on ubuntu?
[06:14] <Warbo> vmware-player yes
[06:14] <Len> gekko` http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19274
[06:14] <joshuapurcell> spring: yep
[06:15] <spring> slow?
[06:15] <joshuapurcell> spring: depends on your computer i'm sure... vmware server works fine for me
[06:15] <Warbo> spring: For KDE based distros yes. ReactOS works acceptably (but it crashes a lot since it is still in development. That is ReactOS, not VMWare)
[06:15] <kana> kern_malloc: ir is in the non-free section of the repos
[06:16] <gekko`> Len: everything looks fine
[06:16] <aaqzx> 
[06:16] <kana> kern_malloc: sorry wrong channel
[06:16] <Warbo> English only in here please
[06:17] <Recks> Can someone help me with a grub issue I'm having
[06:17] <Recks> ?
[06:17] <aaqzx> Warbo, sy :)
[06:17] <Len> gekko` kk , crt + alt + backspace and pray?
[06:17] <spring> i plan to use Vmware to run winxp hosting subversion so my ubuntu can access it, anyone done that?
[06:17] <[Ex0r] > I have
[06:17] <Warbo> aaqzx: No problem. There are a few different language channels though
[06:17] <ruxpin> what would be a good light-weight www-browser with tabs, for old hardware?
[06:18] <Warbo> !dillo
[06:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about dillo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:18] <aaqzx> waky, tnx
[06:18] <Warbo> !info dillo
[06:18] <ubotu> dillo: Small and fast web browser. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB
[06:18] <gekko`> Len: if you get black screen, edit Driver "nvidia" to "nv"
[06:18] <Warbo> Not sure if Dillo has tabs though
[06:18] <Recks> Does anyone know if you have to run a special command when booting with SATA drives through a GRUB loader or should it just boot?
[06:18] <Warbo> Recks: Should just boot
[06:18] <Len> gekko` kk
[06:18] <Warbo> Recks: As long as the BIOS understands SATA
[06:18] <Len> cya soon
[06:18] <Recks> yea, my BIOS picks it up
[06:19] <Warbo> Recks: It should just be sda or something then
[06:19] <Recks> I'm using sdc
[06:19] <Recks> as the boot drive
[06:19] <byen> hey guys.. i need help.. how can i burn an iso onto a dvd in cli..
[06:19] <Warbo> Recks: Exactly
[06:19] <byen> please help
[06:19] <joshuapurcell> spring: haven't run windows with subversion... but i've run windows under vmware and subversion on linux. then i had the windows clients connect to subversion through eclipse
[06:20] <joshuapurcell> spring: i've run subversion client on windows though.. and tortoise-svn
[06:20] <Recks> because sda and sdb are a raid array, so I run the live disc, do an ext3 partition for ubuntu and when I restart I get an error through the grub loader saying it can't load the system
[06:20] <joshuapurcell> spring: running the subversion server on linux is the way to go
[06:20] <aaqzx> Warbo, In our country, they use msn or QQ to chat with, Did you use to before?
[06:20] <Recks> and the only way I can get into the OS is from my live disc =-/
[06:20] <Recks> I can see all the files on the drive, it just doesn't boot correctly
[06:21] <aaqzx> Warbo, or someone else use it ever?
[06:21] <Warbo> aaqzx: I use GAIM to talk to people on MSN and Yahoo. I haven't used any other protocols, and I haven't used any other chat programs (except for IRC ones)
[06:21] <joshuapurcell> aaqzx:
[06:21] <aaqzx> Warbo, wow :) cool
[06:21] <Warbo> aaqzx: I am in GAIM now as well
[06:22] <byen> Ok guys, i need some real fast help here.. my friends system is crashed and he can only go into ubuntu via the CLI.. how can he burn an DVD iso via the CLI.. please help
[06:22] <Recks> So anyone got any ideas as to why I won't load into ubuntu?
[06:22] <CarlFK> byen: growisofs
[06:22] <len> Hey gekko` thx so much
[06:22] <Warbo> !info cdrecord
[06:22] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 547 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[06:22] <len> it worked
[06:22] <aaqzx> Warbo, in gaim? wow, it's freeware from OpenSource? stable it?
[06:22] <Warbo> Just wondering if it can do DVDs
[06:22] <byen> CarlFK, go i need to install it or is it in there already?
[06:22] <Warbo> !info gaim
[06:22] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[06:23] <gekko`> len: no problem
[06:23] <Dravas> umm is it better to change from nv to nvidia in teh driver section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:23] <joshuapurcell> Recks: if you were able to see the partition and create during install then I'd be surprised if using SATA is the problem
[06:23] <aaqzx> ubotu, :) tnx
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about :) tnx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:23] <Warbo> Dravas: It will run faster, but it is a little more complicated than just editing the file
[06:23] <confused> does anyone know how I can emulate the mouse wheel with the thumb button on the side of the mouse?
[06:23] <Warbo> aaqzx: "ubotu" is an automatic robot user :)
[06:23] <CarlFK> byen:  don't know - probably need to sudo apt-get install dvd+rw-tools
[06:23] <Warbo> !ubotu
[06:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:24] <aaqzx> Warbo, wow ... coll
[06:24] <paganini> Well, I reinstalled X, and it worked, sort of. But after I installed the nvidia-glx drivers, it stopped working again. It says it can't find the nvidia module.
[06:24] <Dravas> ok Warbo so what should I do
[06:24] <paganini> I ran dpkg-reconfigure to make sure it is using it, and it is.
[06:24] <paganini> Any other suggestions?
[06:24] <joshuapurcell> it may be your BIOS settings in either your motherboard BIOS or SATA controller BIOS (if you have a SATA controller)
[06:24] <Warbo> !nvidia > Dravas
[06:26] <spring> joshuapurcell: running subversion on win too slow compared with linux?
[06:26] <ruxpin> what's the opera browser called in apt repositories?
[06:27] <crimsun> it's called 'opera', unimpressively enough.
[06:27] <gekko`> paganini: do you have linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ?
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> Um, when I try to run /usr/games/sol from a terminal, I get filesystem errors.  What should I do?  Reboot?
[06:27] <spring> ubuntu has some riciculous games
[06:28] <Recks> okay when I boot into the grub loader it's telling me "Unknown partition table signature"
[06:29] <joshuapurcell> spring: i don't know if it's too slow, it's just that it seems subversion is more targeted for a UNIX-like host OS in my opinion. subversion server can make good use of the the permissions of a Linux filesystem, Linux system users, etc. it's just something I couldn't imagine running on Windows. it's an open-source server meant for an open source OS
[06:29] <Recks> but when i install it through the terminal it says No error reported but it gives me a bunch of those Unknown Partition table signature errors
[06:29] <NickRivers> OK... stupid question... how do I get the nvidia driver working?  I installed nvidia-glx and enabled it but it doesn't work :(
[06:29] <joshuapurcell> spring: of course I guess there is an install for svn on windows... i wouldn't know that for sure though truthfully... never looked into it
[06:30] <gekko`> NickRivers: did you edit your xorg.conf?
[06:30] <NickRivers> gekko`,  yah, I changed nv to nvidia... ?
[06:31] <joshuapurcell> spring: subversion.tigris.org says the server doesn't run on Windows
[06:31] <joshuapurcell> spring: look at bottom of downloads section where it mentions running the client on Windows
[06:31] <greebo> bluefoxicy, ping?
[06:31] <joshuapurcell> spring: first line in that section
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> what
[06:32] <gekko`> NickRivers: restarted your Xserver?
[06:32] <NickRivers> yes
[06:32] <mister_roboto> joshuapurcell: there are several very good svn clients for windows but never tried running the server on windowsx
[06:32] <gekko`> NickRivers: if you dont get a black screen, everything worked fine
[06:33] <Recks> So no one has any suggestions on my GRUB error?
[06:33] <greebo> bluefoxicy, just wanted to ask whether you would be willing to allow people a right of reply by allowing comments on your blog?
[06:33] <NickRivers> gekko`,  no it didn't because the xserver crashed and I had to change back to the nv driver
[06:33] <joshuapurcell> spring: tortoise-svn rocks for windows, i use the eclipse plugin under Linux
[06:33] <en1gma> anyone know if ububtu has a module rt61
[06:33] <joshuapurcell> spring: which also rocks
[06:34] <joshuapurcell> spring: subclipse.tigris.org
[06:34] <bluefoxicy> greebo:  My blog is on my own server, which is not configured properly to allow setting up accounts or anything
[06:34] <darth_gimp> when mounting a HD wich has windows... how do I make it accessible? I've used the "disks" thing but I got an error "not removable"
[06:35] <gekko`> NickRivers: are the linux-restricted-modules installed?
[06:35] <spring> joshuapurcell: Thanks
[06:35] <joshuapurcell> spring: np
[06:35] <Recks> Am I supposed to use extended 2
[06:35] <Recks> partition
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> (also replies are only good for stroking my own ego, because I invariably pummel anyone who doesn't agree with me into the ground with facts and logic that cannot be argued, and they eventually run out of points to make)
[06:35] <Recks> for GRUB to work?
[06:35] <Recks> or will Extended 3 work as well?
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> (everyone else just goes 'yay you're awesom' which is not useful)
[06:36] <joshuapurcell> Recks: can you boot of the desktop installCD and choose to boot from the first hard drive? does that work?
[06:36] <Recks> I haven't tried that....
[06:36] <Recks> lol
[06:36] <Recks> let me try that
[06:36] <Recks> and I'll report if it does ....
[06:36] <joshuapurcell> Recks: if so then the problem is probably with your grub config, if that doesn't work then grub is probably ok and it is something with your BIOS settings
[06:36] <cadmasteradam> how do i make a wildcard search in ubuntu?
[06:36] <darth_gimp> I get this error when trying to mount the volume: "error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable"
[06:37] <en1gma> how can i find out if ubuntu will work with my wlan nic
[06:37] <Recks> well I ran slackware 10.2 and no problems
[06:37] <mister_roboto> cadmasteradam: search for what?
[06:37] <Warbo> AA! Amarok is running it's first-run wizard!
[06:37] <Recks> but I can't seem to get ubuntu or mandriva to work
[06:37] <Warbo> I've been using it for ages though
[06:37] <dibblego> how do you set the date?
[06:37] <mister_roboto> dibblego: man date
[06:37] <cadmasteradam> what is the syntax of for a wildcard?
[06:38] <Recks> would it matter if my first hd wasn't the hd ubuntu was on?
[06:38] <joshuapurcell> Recks: what's weird though is that the installCD would boot into the liveCD desktop
[06:38] <NickRivers> gekko`, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.11-1 and linux-restricted-modules-common-2.6.15.11-3
[06:38] <mister_roboto> cadmasteradam: depends on what you're doing
[06:38] <darth_gimp> dibblego, System > Adminitstratio > Time and Date
[06:38] <dibblego> mister_roboto, can I sync it to a NTP server?
[06:38] <joshuapurcell> Recks: could very well be... it would be a GRUB config issue
[06:38] <dibblego> darth_gimp, I am using ubuntu server
[06:38] <mister_roboto> dibblego: yes
[06:38] <darth_gimp> not sure then
[06:39] <Recks> well lol, what file would I have to configure?
[06:39] <cadmasteradam> mister_roboto: okay i'm in Nautilus searching for a DEB file
[06:39] <cadmasteradam> hows?
[06:39] <Recks> device.map
[06:39] <Recks> ?
[06:39] <darth_gimp> Any one?
[06:40] <mister_roboto> cadmasteradam: i don't know nautilus :)  (kde here)   you can use ? for single character and * for any character(s) for filenames on command line though
[06:40] <darth_gimp> NickRivers, cool name.. just watched that again last night
[06:40] <joshuapurcell> Recks: to reconfigure grub? well you could either boot from a CD then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, or start the install, choose expert, then skip to the grub install section and let it re-install (and re-configure) grub. that would automatically search for all installed OSes and configure GRUB to use them
[06:40] <NickRivers> lol darth_gimp
[06:40] <apeman2020> i need some help installing xwindows system core on my server install of ubuntu...:_
[06:40] <darth_gimp> Trying to mount a hard drive here.. could use a hand...
[06:40] <Recks> hmm okay
[06:40] <Recks> I'm using the live CD
[06:40] <gekko`> NickRivers: did you already try: nvidia-xconfig ?
[06:40] <Recks> so would I be able to access the expert mode through that?
[06:41] <Warbo> Thank god, my Amarok setup is fine (even the queue I had remaining since last time). I have no idea why it ran it's setup wizard...
[06:41] <NickRivers> gekko - nope, i'll give it a try
[06:41] <joshuapurcell> Recks: if you choose the re-install of GRUB, then after the step where it looks for OSes and re-installs grub you would quit the installation and reboot.
[06:41] <joshuapurcell> Recks: then GRUB would come up and allow you to choose the OSes it found
[06:41] <mister_roboto> dibblego: ntpdate will do that
[06:41] <Recks> okay
[06:41] <dibblego> mister_roboto, thanks
[06:41] <joshuapurcell> Recks: do you even get to the grub boot menu at startup from the hard drive?
[06:41] <Recks> yes
[06:42] <Recks> I see the menu come up
[06:42] <joshuapurcell> Recks: any options?
[06:42] <Recks> and than it gives me an error msg I should've wrote down
[06:42] <cadmasteradam> mr.robo:  k i'll try some variations on that
[06:42] <joshuapurcell> Recks: when you hit escape?
[06:42] <Recks> when I load into an OS
[06:42] <darth_gimp> sorry to be a pain.. but I do have a time limit here...
[06:42] <Recks> yea I believe so lol
[06:42] <joshuapurcell> Recks: you can hit escape when the menu comes up and see what it has for the OSes
[06:42] <Warbo> !mount
[06:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:42] <Recks> okay
[06:43] <joshuapurcell> Recks: you can also edit what it shows you, which could be a fast way to fix your problem if you can see a problem with what is listed
[06:43] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I go there.. I click enable and nothing happens
[06:43] <Recks> when I looked in the /boot/grub directory I didn't see the menu.lst file
[06:43] <mister_roboto> dibblego: look into ntp-server as well
[06:43] <Warbo> darth_gimp: I haven't used it productively myself. I do all of my mounting on the CLI, 'cos I'm an uber-geek :)
[06:43] <Recks> okay lol I'll try some of this stuff and see what happens...
[06:43] <Recks> lol
[06:43] <dibblego> mister_roboto, yeah does ntpdate work if the date is out by many hours?
[06:44] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I'm your Padawan... teach me?
[06:44] <Recks> (fd0)	/dev/fd0
[06:44] <Recks> (hd0)	/dev/sda
[06:44] <Recks> (hd1)	/dev/sdb
[06:44] <Recks> (hd2)	/dev/sdc
[06:44] <Recks> (hd3)	/dev/sdd
[06:44] <Recks> that's my device.map
[06:44] <Warbo> darth_gimp: "man mount"
[06:44] <joshuapurcell> Recks: you can always change what you see there and try booting... you would hit escape at the grub menu when booting from the hard drive, then arrow down to the line that represents that OS you want to boot from and hit e for edit
[06:44] <apeman2020> \
[06:44] <Recks> yea
[06:44] <darth_gimp> Warbo, Do I do that in term?
[06:44] <Recks> than what would I do after
[06:44] <Recks> because I tired that
[06:44] <Recks> and it just shot back to the same menu under the default item
[06:44] <dragonfyre13> I have a question about my nvidia drivers that is bugging me. I'm using nv now because my nvidia drivers fail due to a "mismatch" between the xorg driver and the installed one. xorg driver 7xxx and nvidia driver 86xx
[06:44] <mister_roboto> dibblego: offhand, i don't know
[06:44] <Recks> also my partitions are wierd
[06:44] <toysoldier`yairg> i was wondering which cd to download if i have windows installed and would like to dual boot
[06:44] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yeah. Whenever running the actual mount command remember to use "sudo mount" to give it root permission
[06:45] <dragonfyre13> anywhere I can find a log file for xorg errors?
[06:45] <joshuapurcell> Recks: then you can change the root line numbers
[06:45] <Recks> it goes sdc1, sdc2 (extended), sdc5(swap)
[06:45] <joshuapurcell> Recks: here's my root line:     root            (hd0,0)
[06:45] <dibblego> I think the hardware clock is out by 10 hours
[06:45] <Recks> mine is root (hd2,0)
[06:45] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I'm in a root terminal
[06:45] <bimberi> toysoldier`yairg: either, both desktop and alternate have partition resizing capabilities
[06:45] <Warbo> dragonfyre13: Have you ever used the installer from the Nvidia website?
[06:45] <joshuapurcell> Recks: you could change the numbers in your line to something like (hd2,1) or something
[06:45] <dragonfyre13> toysoldier`yairg:  just download the general live CD. It has a nice installer on there that allows for dual boot if you use advanced partitioning.
[06:45] <joshuapurcell> Recks: the change is not permanent
[06:45] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Well that simplifies things :)
[06:45] <Recks> okay
[06:46] <joshuapurcell> Recks: only goes for your current boot
[06:46] <Recks> let me restart and see what I get
[06:46] <Recks> so after editing the line
[06:46] <Recks> would I just hit return
[06:46] <dragonfyre13> Warbo: yes. That's how I got into the situation.
[06:46] <Recks> and that would run the command?
[06:46] <toysoldier`yairg> dragonfyre13 i didnt see a live cd, just a general desktop and a alternative
[06:46] <darth_gimp> Warbo, the error I get is "error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable"
[06:46] <searayman> can i have help with the package brightside?
[06:46] <joshuapurcell> Recks: when you hit escape then go to the root line, hit e, change it like you want, then hit escape, you would hit b for boot
[06:46] <Warbo> dragonfyre13: Make sure you run "sudo ./whatever-the-installer-is-called --uninstall" for the old one before installing a newer one
[06:46] <dragonfyre13> toysoldier`yairg: general desktop is the liveCD /install cd. It's a graphical install though. Nice new feature.
[06:46] <Recks> okay
[06:46] <joshuapurcell> Recks: it would either boot or not
[06:47] <Recks> I'll give it a try
[06:47] <joshuapurcell> Recks: then you would try something different
[06:47] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Is that right-click>eject on the device or something?
[06:47] <dragonfyre13> Warbo: any idea where I can find a log file for xorg?
[06:47] <Recks> wish me luck
[06:47] <Recks> so like (hd2,2)
[06:47] <searayman> i am having troubles with brightside package
[06:47] <Recks> and hd2,3 and so on
[06:47] <Recks> lol
[06:47] <Recks> ?
[06:47] <Warbo> dragonfyre13: /var/log/Xorg.0.log I think
[06:47] <toysoldier`yairg> dragonfyre13 ok i started my comp with it and it just had instal and start option i didnt see a dual boot but im assuming that comes later
[06:47] <joshuapurcell> Recks: depends on how many filesystems you have on that drive
[06:47] <dragonfyre13> Warbo:  I did, that's why I'm asking here is because I can't figure why it is doing it.
[06:47] <darth_gimp> Warbo, that's right click > mount
[06:47] <apeman2020> how can i install xserver / xwindows on my ubuntu server install?
[06:47] <dragonfyre13> Warbo: thanks.
[06:47] <kana> dragonfyre13: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:47] <joshuapurcell> Recks: if you have 3 filesystems then 2,2 may be it
[06:47] <Recks> the only thing I have on the drive is my root partition and the swap
[06:47] <dragonfyre13> toysoldier`yairg: yep, it comes later during the partitioning stage.
[06:47] <Ap0s7le> Hello everyone, I'm new to Ubuntu and have a video question.
[06:48] <joshuapurcell> Recks: 2,0  2,1  2,2
[06:48] <dragonfyre13> kana: thanks
[06:48] <Recks> okay lol I'll try dicking around with it
[06:48] <toysoldier`yairg> dragonfyre13 thanks
[06:48] <Recks> bbs (hopefully with a fixed problem)
[06:48] <toysoldier`yairg> ill be back when i screw up the install and need help :)
[06:48] <searayman> anyone ever try brightside?
[06:48] <Recks> joshuapurcell: thanks
[06:48] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Oh. Well I always have all sorts of problems with mounting graphically ("pmount" problems), so that's why I give up and use a temrinal. The only things which work automatically are USB drives and CDs
[06:48] <joshuapurcell> Recks you can also try choosing another OS from the grub menu to make sure something is working
[06:48] <searayman> brighside
[06:48] <joshuapurcell> Recks: np
[06:48] <searayman> brightside
[06:48] <Warbo> searayman: I used to use it
[06:48] <darth_gimp> Warbo, this manual is good but not making much sense
[06:49] <Warbo> searayman: Oh, and !repeat
[06:49] <searayman> Warbo: well when i type brightside into terminal it dosent open anythign
[06:49] <Ap0s7le> Anyone ever setup a video card with a componet out to a TV?
[06:49] <darth_gimp> Warbo, do I just do   mount /dev/hdb1  ??
[06:49] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Basically "sudo mount /dev/devicename /the/folder/you/want/to/mount/it/in" and everything else should be automatic
[06:49] <searayman> Warbo:  brightside wont open any settings for me to configure it
[06:50] <Warbo> darth_gimp: "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt" would put hdb1's files in /mnt
[06:50] <darth_gimp> Warbo, do I just do   mount /dev/hdb1 /Desktop   ??
[06:50] <Warbo> searayman: System>Preferences>Screen Actions
[06:50] <dibblego> sudo hwclock --set --date="7/31/06 14:51:00"
[06:50] <dibblego> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 31 00:49:28 2006
[06:50] <Snake> are ubuntu servers down again..
[06:50] <dibblego> how do I tell it not to care?
[06:51] <NickRivers> gekko`, ok... rebooted and xserver crashed with the error "Module nvidia not found.  Failed to load the nvidia kernel module"
[06:51] <Warbo> darth_gimp: 1) There is no "/Desktop" 2) There is a "/home/username/Desktop", but don't put stuff in non-empty folders. Make a folder on your desktop and mount it in there
[06:51] <Ap0s7le> Anyone ever setup a video card with a componet out to a TV?
[06:51] <darth_gimp> Warbo,  thanks
[06:51] <searayman> Warbo:  thanks
[06:51] <gekko`> NickRivers: did you try re-installing nvidia-glx?
[06:51] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Unmounting is done with "sudo umount /place/it/is/mounted", there is no "unmount" command
[06:52] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: yes... depends on the card though in how you do it
[06:52] <NickRivers> gekko`, yes
[06:52] <searayman> Warbo:  if i got this dose it mean brightside quite ?
[06:52] <gekko`> and do linux-restr.-mod. match your current kernel?
[06:52] <dragonfyre13> anybody know a way to boot into init 2
[06:52] <dragonfyre13> ?
[06:52] <searayman> warbo: mike@mike-desktop:~$ brightside
[06:52] <searayman> Daemon already running, exiting...
[06:52] <searayman> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[06:52] <Warbo> searayman: You will have to add it to your session startup (System>Preferences>Session) to run it when you log in
[06:52] <dragonfyre13> specifically so that it doesn't run the xserver?
[06:52] <searayman> war i dont know if its working
[06:52] <Warbo> searayman: It is already going apparently
[06:52] <searayman> warbo: dont know if its workign
[06:53] <dragonfyre13> never mind.
[06:53] <Warbo> searayman: Turn on desktop switching then move the mouse to the edge of the screen and see what happens
[06:53] <Warbo> searayman: It will be quite obvious if it is running :)
[06:53] <Ap0s7le> joshuapurcell, it's an old card with VGA, S-Video and Comp out
[06:53] <searayman> Warbo:  its not switching
[06:53] <searayman> Warbo:  how do i turn it on?
[06:53] <Warbo> searayman: Try "pidof brightside"
[06:54] <Warbo> searayman: Does anything happen?
[06:54] <searayman> Warbo: terminal returned a number
[06:54] <Warbo> searayman: Then it is running
[06:54] <searayman> why wont it switch lol
[06:54] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: i was looking for the package i got from the repos to get my s-video working on my radeon card... haven't found it just yet. is that what you are looking for?
[06:55] <searayman> Warbo:  why wont it switch?
[06:55] <Warbo> searayman: It will only switch if you tell it to in the Screen Actions dialog
[06:55] <darth_gimp> Warbo, now it says I do not have permission to view the folder
[06:55] <searayman> Warbo:  i did
[06:55] <Warbo> darth_gimp: What filesystem is it?
[06:55] <NickRivers> gekko`, I've got nvidiafb.ko in lib/modules/2.6.15-26/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia ... is that the kernel module?
[06:55] <joshuapurcell> dragonf: telinit 2
[06:55] <darth_gimp> Warbo, what do you mean?
[06:55] <Warbo> NickRivers: That has nothing to do with nvidia module
[06:55] <buddhalover> =-O The ubuntuforum seems to be down...
[06:55] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Is it FAT32, NTFS, ReiserFS, etc.?
[06:55] <Snake> Warbo: ubuntu servers are down again I think
[06:56] <Ap0s7le> joshuapurcell, I don't know what I'm looking for. The card is old, shows as this "S3 Inc. 86C410 Savage 2000"
[06:56] <Snake> Warbo: I cant apt-get anything on the us servers, I had to switch to UK
[06:56] <Recks> joshuapurcell: Oddly enough (hd0,0) worked....
[06:56] <joshuapurcell> Recks: nice
[06:56] <searayman> Warbo:  it wont switch i left my mouse on the edge forever
[06:56] <Recks> so how what would I edit to make the default?
[06:56] <darth_gimp> Warbo, well the HD is a WinXP drive...
[06:56] <Warbo> Ubuntu Forums work for me
[06:56] <joshuapurcell> Recks: once you are in the OS, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and find that same line and change it there
[06:56] <joshuapurcell> Recks: as root
[06:57] <Recks> okay
[06:57] <Recks> thanks
[06:57] <Warbo> darth_gimp: You will probably not be able to write to it then
[06:57] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: you need the savage drivers which should be installed by default in the latest Ubuntu version
[06:57] <darth_gimp> Warbo, Don't need to.. I want to get stuff off of it...
[06:57] <searayman> Warbo:  i just tested and the hot corners seem to work, but the screen edge wont switch it
[06:57] <Warbo> darth_gimp: But if you add "-o uid=yourusername" to your mount command you should at least be able to view it
[06:57] <Recks> joshuapurcell: Thank you tons of help, I would've never figured that out on my own!
[06:57] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: what driver does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file say you are using?
[06:57] <joshuapurcell> Recks: np
[06:58] <apeman2020> how can I edit my sources.list using command line
[06:58] <Warbo> darth_gimp: So "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /wherever -o uid=username"
[06:58] <Warbo> apeman2020: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:58] <Ap0s7le> Right now, I have a monitor hooked up to it and a TV. I don't need the Dual monitor thing, I just want the picture to show on my TV. When I turn the computer on, the picture of it booting up shows on the TV but when it actually goes to the Login screen the TV does a scan thing where it's like the resolution is wrong
[06:58] <joshuapurcell> apeman2020: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:58] <gekko`> NickRivers: that's not the right module
[06:59] <holotone> I know I'm going to sound like a moron here, but how do I get an iBook to boot to my Ubuntu 6.06 PPC disc?
[06:59] <Warbo> searayman: There is an option in the middle of the options window I think, you turn on edge flipping then set how long it takes (how long you need to hold the mouse at the edge of the screen)
[06:59] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, it says Driver          "savage"
[06:59] <Recks> what would the default password for root be?
[06:59] <holotone> This is the first time I've ever even touched a mac
[06:59] <Warbo> !sudoroot
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about sudoroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <Warbo> !rootsudo
[06:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:59] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I'll give it a shot...
[06:59] <holotone> It didn't seem like there was anything like a bios that I could change the boot order in
[06:59] <Warbo> darth_gimp: It can only be mounted once, so umount it before trying to remount it
[06:59] <holotone> and when I boot, the disc spins up, but it boots to the OS, without anything in between.
[07:00] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: you can find out fast by typing this at the command line:
[07:00] <Warbo> holotone: Is it a PPC Mac?
[07:00] <wickers> clear
[07:00] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: more /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -A 2 'Section "Device"'
[07:00] <apeman2020> thanks warbo
[07:00] <gekko`> NickRivers: what does "lsmod | grep nv" say?
[07:00] <wickers> *wrong window*
[07:00] <Warbo> apeman2020: ctrl-X to quit (it will ask if you want to save)
[07:00] <apeman2020> any ideas on getting xwindows / xserver installed?
[07:00] <holotone> iBook
[07:00] <holotone> I think so
[07:00] <holotone> I thought they all were
[07:00] <searayman> Warbo:  i have it checkd and set to a short amount of time and it still dosent work
[07:01] <Warbo> "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[07:01] <holotone> hell, shows you what I know
[07:01] <joshuapurcell> apeman2020: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <NickRivers> gekko`, doesn't say anything
[07:01] <holotone> Warbo: I picked it up at a garage sale for $15, because the screen is all black
[07:01] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, this is what shows when typing that command... Section "Device"
[07:01] <Ap0s7le>         Identifier      "S3 Inc. 86C410 Savage 2000"
[07:01] <Ap0s7le>         Driver          "savage"
[07:01] <Warbo> searayman: You can only switch to a desktop which is "next to" the current one, eg. the desktop on the left can only switch to the right (unless you add more rows, or "wrap" them)
[07:01] <holotone> but I have it plugged in to my flat panel, so no worries for me
[07:01] <apeman2020> warbo couldnt find package!
[07:02] <holotone> How can I tell if a mac is a PPC?
[07:02] <searayman> Warbo:  but it isnt switching desktops at all
[07:02] <Warbo> holotone: How new is it?
[07:02] <Perseid0> Hi. I an't get MIDI to work. The Audigy's MIDI emu10k1 are listed, but when I play I get no audio.
[07:02] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: cool, that means the savage drivers are installed and you should have 3d working because of it. so you plug in an s-video cable and nothing comes out to the TV?
[07:02] <apeman2020> joshuapurcell_ no bang, cant find package
[07:02] <Warbo> !info timidity
[07:02] <ubotu> timidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 532 kB, installed size 1704 kB
[07:02] <holotone> Warbo: The copyright on the body of the machine reads 2001
[07:02] <gekko`> NickRivers: does "modprobe nvidia" work?
[07:02] <holotone> let me find out more
[07:02] <holotone> just a sec
[07:02] <Warbo> holotone: Probably PPC then
[07:02] <dibblego> how do I set the timezone to GMT+10 (Brisbane)?
[07:02] <thompa> join #mepis
[07:02] <NickRivers> gekko`,  no... module not fund
[07:02] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: have you tried plugging the cable in and then rebooting with the laptop lid closed?
[07:02] <holotone> Warbo: The problem was, I can't get it to boot to a CD, and I couldn't find anything resembling a BIOS
[07:02] <NickRivers> gekko`,  no... module not found
[07:02] <thompa> sry
[07:03] <Recks> okay, so I need to edit the menu.lst file, how do I log in as root?
[07:03] <Recks> or how would I edit it?
[07:03] <gekko`> hm..then try nvidiafb
[07:03] <tehquickness> hello
[07:03] <Warbo> holotone: Macs don't use BIOS (Thank God)
[07:03] <searayman> Warbo:  i got it working by adding the thing to my gnome panel that shows what desktop ur on
[07:03] <joshuapurcell> apeman2020: sudo apt-get update may do the trick, but you may need to look at what repositories you have listed in you /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:03] <holotone> Warbo: So how do I choose the boot order? How do I get a Mac to boot to an Ubuntu PPC install disk?
[07:03] <Warbo> searayman: Ah. Having more than one desktop is usually a good start if you want to switch between them :)
[07:03] <Perseid0> Timidity has pops in it and I can't get Rosegarden to use it. Can't Ubuntu actually use the MIDI ports?
[07:03] <apeman2020> joshuapurcell_ i uncommented all of the repositories
[07:03] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, I have a Composite video AND svideo... The TV shows the screen, but the picture is flipping over and over. And it isn't a laptop :)
[07:04] <Warbo> holotone: I have never used a Mac sorry. (But I hate BIOS)
[07:04] <Perseid0> Ap0s7le, that might be a PAL/NTSC mismatch. That's often why the screen flips.
[07:04] <tehquickness> what is wrong with bios?
[07:04] <holotone> Warbo:  Thanks for getting me startted on the rigth track
[07:04] <holotone> If anyone else has any idea how to get an iBook to boot to an Ubuntu install CD, please let me know
[07:04] <holotone> it's PPC edition, FWIW
[07:05] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, It looks exactly like when you're in windows and you set the Resolution wrong. The screen will start to Flip until it defaults back due to not Accepting the changes.
[07:05] <Recks> joshuapurcell: How would I go about editing the menu.lst file? It won't let me because it is owned by root
[07:06] <belzar> if i have a video clip off of a dvd, is it possible to use it on my site that i have on my computer?
[07:06] <joshuapurcell> Recks: use sudo first...  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:06] <Warbo> belzar: Possible yes. Legal, maybe not :)
[07:06] <holotone> Power PC G3 iBook
[07:06] <Recks> okay
[07:06] <Recks> just set it so I can write it?
[07:07] <Warbo> Recks: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:07] <joshuapurcell> Recks: don't change the permissions... just use sudo and you will have root permissions on a one-time basis to edit the file
[07:07] <NickRivers> Recks, no... use sudo nano -w /file/name/here
[07:07] <Warbo> NickRivers: what does -w do?
[07:07] <palmers> any body can explain to me on how to get to shopadmin page?
[07:07] <belzar> warbo: hehe its legal, the dvd is just a video that was taken of me when i went on the skycoaster... it drops you 300 feet in a harness and bunjy cords... i just am curious as to how i would show it
[07:07] <palmers> or anybody with shopadmin injection?
[07:07] <joshuapurcell> Warbo: nowrap
[07:08] <palmers> ?
[07:08] <NickRivers> Warbo, disable wrapping of long lines
[07:08] <yairgo`> is anyone very familiar with the boot cd? after i insert it and change my vga option and then try to boot the status bar under the graphic never moves
[07:08] <Warbo> belzar: Probably rip the DVD to Theora or something, then use a video editor to cut it down, or just transcode it with a start and end time
[07:08] <Recks> okay so I edited how do I save?
[07:08] <Warbo> NickRivers: Ah! That's useful, I'll need to remember that :)
[07:08] <palmers> click on file in the oper place
[07:09] <Warbo> Recks: Ctrl-X (then Y to save)
[07:09] <joshuapurcell> later all... it's late where i'm at and i have work early in the morning
[07:09] <Recks> okay
[07:09] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, so there isn't anything I can change, resolution, refresh rate etc that could help my problem?
[07:09] <Recks> I think I did it!!
[07:09] <Recks> lol
[07:09] <joshuapurcell> Recks: np
[07:09] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: hmm....
[07:09] <Recks> joshuapurcell: thanks, and thank you to everyone else that helped ^_^
[07:10] <belzar> warbo: umm.. lost me, i copied it to the computer by just taking the folders off the dvd as files and put them on my computer... they work when i open them without the dvd in, but i am not sure how to get it to play on my site
[07:10] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: i think there is another package you can install like i mentioned before that specifically deals with s-video output
[07:10] <Recks> yay! lol
[07:10] <Warbo> belzar: Rip the DVD to a movie file
[07:10] <Recks> okay thanks guys
[07:10] <Recks> later!
[07:10] <Ap0s7le> Because it's doing the same thing as Windows does when the monitor resolution is wrong
[07:10] <Recks>  ^_^
[07:10] <Warbo> !info thoggen
[07:10] <ubotu> thoggen: DVD backup utility based on GStreamer and Gtk+. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 142 kB, installed size 632 kB
[07:10] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: have you looked at the xvattr command?
[07:10] <yairgo`> is there something special that you ahve to do to boot from the live cd?  it doesnt seem to be working
[07:10] <Warbo> belzar: Then cut that movie file down
[07:10] <Ap0s7le> never heard of it, I'm new Joshua
[07:11] <belzar> warbo: i see... sorry to have to ask, but how do i do that?
[07:11] <spring> am i going to be sory for deleting all files in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:11] <Ap0s7le> I'm not using the Svideo out anyhow, it's a RCA plug
[07:11] <NickRivers> spring, no
[07:11] <spring> NickRivers: ok thx
[07:11] <Warbo> belzar: Easiest option is probably to use VideoLAN client to save the stream to a file, then only watch selected bits. A more powerful way would be to tell mencoder a start and end time
[07:11] <Warbo> !info vlc
[07:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[07:11] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: i'm not sure if i used that to get s-video working, but i did need it for external display to look right (using the vga output). it may come into play on the s-video as well
[07:11] <Warbo> !info mencoder
[07:11] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 2912 kB, installed size 7004 kB
[07:12] <KingBrad> i keep getting an error anytime anything asks for the root pw (such as adept) that says "su returned with an error" any idea how to fix this??
[07:12] <Ap0s7le> Ok, thank you for your time. Get some rest tonight Joshua.
[07:12] <Warbo> KingBrad: su shouldn't be used. Is that happening by default on GUIs? If so then it is a bug
[07:12] <Warbo> !sudo
[07:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <jesspher> is there any program on ubuntu that can burn iso files?
[07:13] <jesspher> please help
[07:13] <Madpilot> KingBrad, it's not (be default) asking for a su pw, it's asking for your own pw
[07:13] <Warbo> !burn
[07:13] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:13] <KingBrad> it started happening after i chmod 777 /etc/sudoers
[07:13] <KingBrad> its only happening in gui (kde)
[07:13] <Madpilot> jesspher, right-click on the ISO, choose "Burn To Disc". done
[07:13] <Warbo> KindBWell that was a clever thing to do, wasn't it?
[07:13] <jesspher> really
[07:13] <KingBrad> hehe
[07:13] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: look into s3switch definitely
[07:13] <Ap0s7le> Maybe I should just buy a new Video card?
[07:13] <KingBrad> ya i relized i screwd up after i did it
[07:13] <Madpilot> KingBrad, why are you adjusting permissions in root? That's not too smart...
[07:13] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: that's what it is... s3switch
[07:13] <KingBrad> Madpilot, i know this
[07:14] <KingBrad> can i chmod it back to orignal?
[07:14] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/S3switch
[07:14] <Ap0s7le> Thank you
[07:14] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/s3switch.8.html
[07:14] <Mercutio150> can someone point me in the direction to find help on backing up files
[07:15] <Warbo> KingBrad: You could maybe dpkg remove it with --force-depends then reinstall it
[07:15] <jbroome> man rsync
[07:15] <Madpilot> KingBrad, default seems to be 440 on sudoers
[07:15] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: i knew there was a package somewhere... couldn't remember the name. you should be able to get that from repos
[07:15] <KingBrad> k
[07:15] <Ap0s7le> awesome, thanks!
[07:15] <joshuapurcell> Ap0s7le: np
[07:15] <KingBrad> that seems to have fixed it
[07:15] <KingBrad> awsome that fixed it
[07:16] <KingBrad> thanks Madpilot
[07:16] <Mercutio150> can anyone even read me?
[07:16] <KingBrad> how hard is it to install video drivers for say an ATI mx440??
[07:16] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  yes
[07:17] <Mercutio150> so I can assume I am being ignored then?
[07:17] <minerale> I have changed my /etc/fstab file, how do I reload it so it ?
[07:18] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  overlooked is a better term...
[07:18] <jesspher> can anybody here recommend the best strategy game on their opinion
[07:18] <Mercutio150> ok then I am trying to find out what program I can use to do a back up onto multiple discs
[07:18] <yairgo`> so if i go to the check cd for defects part on the general cd and it doesnt do anythign does this mean my cd is messed up?
[07:19] <prophet> whats a good torrent client
[07:19] <Mercutio150> bit torrnado prophet
[07:19] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  backup onto multiple disks or from multiple disks? you mean a RAID array or just backing up to a remote disk?
[07:19] <kira1> I need some help
[07:19] <kira1> I'm VERY new to Ubuntu and I need some help installing Amule.
[07:19] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  the tar command is pretty much all you need to backup... unless backing up to a remote host (which you will then need rsh or ssh to connect)
[07:19] <Mercutio150> i mean I want to take some large files I have , about 20 gigs and put them on dvds
[07:20] <kira1> It says that I installed it, but how do I run the program now?
[07:20] <Mercutio150> so I cannot fit that onto one dvd
[07:20] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  you want to split them up onto multiple DVDs?
[07:20] <Mercutio150> yes
[07:20] <mcquaid> hello, i need to use vnc and was looking at tightvnc vs vnc4server  It says in the comments that vnc4server has an equally good incoding to tightvnc.
[07:21] <prophet> i did apt-get install but it cant find the package for bit otrrndo
[07:21] <mcquaid> Where is the actual site for the version of vnc4server provided in ubuntu?  It can't be realvnc, thats not gpl
[07:21] <prophet> why
[07:21] <mcquaid> oops sorry it is
[07:22] <Mercutio150> not sure prophet what release are you using?
[07:22] <prophet> release of what
[07:22] <kira1> Can anyone help me? :(
[07:22] <Mercutio150> Ubuntu
[07:22] <prophet> dapper
[07:22] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, what TV format should be card be set to?
[07:22] <Mercutio150> I tried looking through the wiki joshuapurcell
[07:22] <fadzly> guys, why is MidnightCommander not in the standard 6.06 package list?
[07:23] <Mercutio150> try updating to breezy or newer then prophet
[07:23] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  this script looks nice... it combines cpio and the ability to split the files into sizes that are manageable: http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html
[07:23] <prophet> i cant use bit torrnado untill the,?
[07:24] <Mercutio150> thank you joshua
[07:24] <kira1> I just need to know how to run the program.  What do I type in the terminal
[07:24] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  haven't used it though truthfully... but it uses programs that are known to work well in the script
[07:24] <kira1> Once again, it's Amule.  I read the intructions but it didn't work
[07:24] <Mercutio150> that should work on debian base right joshua?
[07:24] <nicholaspaul> Can someone tell me how to load the Enlightenment menu? I tried 'reload' but dont get any applications in the menu.
[07:24] <kira1> what's the command to run programs?
[07:25] <kira1> Anyone? D=
[07:26] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  from briefly looking through that link i don't see anything that would cause a problem on Debian-based distros... the only distro it says it has a problem with is fedora core 4.
[07:26] <Mercutio150> ah I thought it was saying it was meant for fedora
[07:27] <Mercutio150> but that should break my file up into dvd sized chunks?
[07:27] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  the thing though is that i'm not positive the tools that script uses is installed by default in ubuntu... if not it would be available in the repos i'm sure... for instance cpio or fsplit
[07:27] <kira1> Is there even a command to "run" programs in Ubuntu? :P
[07:27] <wckdkl0wn> maybe someone here can help me with my problem in kubuntu
[07:27] <wckdkl0wn> ?
[07:27] <Ap0s7le> Joshua, it says my TV is set to Current TV format is NTSC-J
[07:28] <Mercutio150> thank you for your help joshua
[07:28] <kira1> Can you help me now? =D
[07:28] <wckdkl0wn> i will just post my problem and if someone could help then plz do lol
[07:29] <kana> kira1: what do you want to run
[07:29] <kira1> Amule
[07:29] <kira1> I instaled it and everything, but I don't know how to start it :S
[07:29] <joshuapurcell> Mercutio150:  there is a package in the repositories called backup2l... haven't used that either but it says it is good at backing up and splitting files to fit on removeable media (from the description)
[07:29] <kana> kira1: it is under applications > internet
[07:29] <wckdkl0wn> i was messing around with system settings - display earlier to try and get my output to clone onto my tv through svid and now i get an error when opening it and i dont have video playback on my monitor
[07:29] <jesspher> does anybody know any program in ubuntu that can open pdf files
[07:29] <wckdkl0wn> it says an error occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphan module...... and you have old third party modules lying around
[07:29] <kira1> Yeah, I checked there but it isn't there.
[07:29] <jbroome> !pdf
[07:29] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/KPDF/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[07:29] <wckdkl0wn> the module display could not be loaded
[07:29] <kana> kira1: or just type amule in a terminal
[07:29] <kira1> Did that too
[07:30] <kana> kira1: then it is not installed
[07:30] <kira1> amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:30] <Mercutio150> thanks again joshua
[07:30] <kana> kira1: how did you install amule
[07:30] <Mercutio150> thsat seems to be more of what I am looking for
[07:30] <kira1> I double clicked it and clicked install
[07:30] <Warbo> What about Evince?
[07:30] <Warbo> (for PDF)
[07:31] <kira1> It opened in package installer
[07:31] <kana> kira1: seems it did not install properly
[07:31] <kana> try reinstalling
[07:31] <Warbo> kira1: Why not use Ubutnu's Amule?
[07:31] <mcquaid> is there considered to be a preference for tightvnc vs realvnc? or does real pretty much have what tightvnc has now?
[07:31] <kira1> I am
[07:31] <Warbo> kira1: "sudo apt-get install amule"?
[07:32] <kira1> amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:32] <effibae> hi all, can i ask about network configging here?  trying to set up a firewall
[07:32] <kana> Warbo: it is already installed
[07:32] <kira1> ok, I did that right now
[07:32] <Warbo> kira1: Just that "I double clicked it and clicked install" doesn't seem to be installing Ubutnu's one, and Ubuntu's one is known to work in Ubuntu
[07:32] <kira1> Reading package lists... Done
[07:32] <kira1> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:32] <kira1> amule is already the newest version.
[07:32] <kira1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 128 not upgraded.
[07:33] <kira1> Can someone give me the proper link to it?
[07:33] <Warbo> kira1: Well if you installed a Deb called "amule" it is bound to say that
[07:33] <kira1> I think I got the correct one
[07:33] <kira1> Yeah, I know, but now what?
[07:33] <kana> Warbo: i think she /he used the application installed that comes with ubuntu
[07:33] <Warbo> kira1: "sudo apt-get remove amule && sudo apt-get install amule"
[07:34] <effibae> on my firewall, i can browse the web, but i can't get dhcpd to hand out addresses. when i give an internal machine a static ip address (10.1.1.101) it still can't ping my firweall
[07:35] <kira1> Thanks Warbo
[07:35] <kira1> It worked. =D
[07:35] <Warbo> !apt > kira1
[07:36] <kira1> ?
[07:36] <Warbo> It's suprising the ignorance to do with package management.
[07:36] <kira1> !apt > kira1 ?
[07:36] <Warbo> !apt
[07:36] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:38] <Warbo> There was a story about GNU/Linux asking for users' comments. Someone said that repositories are bad because they don't contain everything, and external packages break the system then said "what would be good is if programs were in downloadable packages with meta-data which says which packages it needs from the repository"..... Erm, like a package manager maybe? :)
[07:38] <kira1> Now I just gotta figure out how to connect. =P
[07:38] <Warbo> kira1: You need a server.met (I think) file
[07:38] <Warbo> kira1: Also check out
[07:38] <darth_gimp> Warbo, you rock man!
[07:38] <Warbo> !info mldonkey-server
[07:38] <ubotu> mldonkey-server: Door to the 'donkey' network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.7.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2900 kB, installed size 7960 kB
[07:39] <kana> i bet those users did not use apt :)
[07:39] <Warbo> kana: Well, RPM was mentioned, but it's basically the same idea
[07:39] <darth_gimp> Warbo, ok so now.. how can I make this drive more accessible with Ubuntu?
[07:39] <kana> Warbo: apt is much suprior i used both by the way
[07:39] <Warbo> darth_gimp: How do you mean
[07:40] <Warbo> kana: I think it is too, but installing an external RPM will still get the needed packages (and don't forget apt4RPM :) )
[07:40] <kana> Warbo: try to upgrade your distro in an rpm based distro :)
[07:40] <darth_gimp> Warbo, like can format the drive and use it to store files or swap memory for GiMP and Blender.. that sort of thing.
[07:40] <Warbo> !mount
[07:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:40] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Unmount it and use GParted, then put it in !fstab
[07:41] <darth_gimp> Warbo, GParted?
[07:41] <Warbo> !gparted
[07:41] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:41] <Warbo> !fstab
[07:41] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[07:41] <darth_gimp> !fstab
[07:41] <darth_gimp> Warbo, !fstab ?
[07:42] <Warbo> darth_gimp: ^^
[07:42] <userundefine> can't imagine this channel without ubotu
[07:42] <darth_gimp> Warbo, thanks..
[07:42] <prophet> why is a torrent Stalled in K Torrent?
[07:42] <userundefine> prophet, are there seeders?
[07:42] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so.. I can then set up folders there and access them as usual?
[07:42] <prophet> many
[07:43] <userundefine> prophet, you connected to any peers?
[07:43] <prophet> no
[07:43] <Warbo> darth_gimp: If you format it using GParted and/or /sbin/mkfs then mount it somewhere and add it to /etc/fstab to be mounted automatically, then yes
[07:43] <prophet> its trying
[07:44] <snoops> prophet stop it, then start it
[07:44] <prophet> k
[07:45] <userundefine> prophet, maybe you're firewalled or the port(s) are otherwise blocked
[07:45] <Dravas> I'v just noticed that You only need a Serial to run teh Virtual PC in WMWare workstation and not make on
[07:45] <Dravas> and VMware player doesnt need a serial to use
[07:45] <Dravas> lol
[07:45] <Dravas> LOL
[07:46] <Dravas> I win
[07:46] <snoops> it hasn't needed a serial for a long time
[07:46] <Warbo> !portforward
[07:46] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[07:46] <tehquickness> draves: you can use qemu too
[07:46] <tehquickness> draves: it is very simple, that is what i do
[07:47] <prophet> how can i unblock it
[07:47] <noiesmo> !firestarter
[07:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[07:48] <darth_gimp> Warbo, is gparted a terminal thing?
[07:48] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Nope
[07:48] <userundefine> prophet, read what ubotu just said for port forwarding
[07:48] <Warbo> darth_gimp: G=GNOME
[07:48] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I did the apt get.. but cannot find it...
[07:48] <Warbo> darth_gimp: System>Admin
[07:48] <darth_gimp> Not on the menus anyways
[07:49] <darth_gimp> Warbo, there should be a Warbo.com !
[07:49] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Warbo.org
[07:49] <Warbo> But I'm a cheap-ass!
[07:49] <tehquickness> I have a quick question, In my places menu, there is a new item called bookmarks and when I expand it, it gives me a list of all the folders in the / directory anyone  know what could be causing this or how to fix it?
[07:49] <darth_gimp> Warbo, ok so will Gparted remove any partitions as well?
[07:50] <Warbo> darth_gimp: There is a geocities.yahoo.com/niceandrandom
[07:50] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Depends what you tell it. It will not change any partitions which are mounted
[07:51] <darth_gimp> Warbo, ok... I've never used Gparted... can you walk me through the woods here?
[07:52] <ruxpin> is there a way to apt-get install something even though the filesizes no not match? apt-build install firefox broke some dependencies, and now I can't use apt-get anymore :/
[07:52] <Warbo> darth_gimp: It will show your partitions. Select one you want to get rid of, and tell it to remove it. Apply the changes, then in the space make some new ext3 partitions
[07:52] <darth_gimp> Warbo, what I would like is a nice clean drive with no partions on it for which to use to keep stuff and set Gimp directories too... that sort of thing...
[07:53] <booger> hey all
[07:53] <Widden> Hi im trying to follow this threat [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32015]  but dunno hot to configure xorg.conf from terminal
[07:53] <Warbo> Widden: Don't threaten us :)
[07:54] <ku> lol
[07:54] <booger> can someone please tell me how to get rid of the black outline animation when that happens when i minimize a window
[07:54] <Warbo> Widden: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:54] <elkbuntu> darth_gimp, the drive will require at least one paritition. it will just need to be one that takes up the entire drive size
[07:54] <Widden> Warbo, thanx!
[07:54] <tehquickness>  I have a quick question, In my places menu, there is a new item called bookmarks and when I expand it, it gives me a list of all the folders in the / directory anyone  know what could be causing this or how to fix it?
[07:54] <darth_gimp> Warbo, ok now I have 462 unallocated ?
[07:55] <Xaero_Vincent> hello I have a problem with the Ogle DVD player.
[07:55] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Just make one big partition (ext3) over the drive you want to store stuff on, then apply
[07:55] <Xaero_Vincent> I cannot get audio to work
[07:56] <CyDriv1> is there anyway to get like a windows media player plugin or real player plugin for firefox?
[07:56] <Warbo> !info realplay
[07:56] <ubotu> Package realplay does not exist in dapper
[07:56] <Warbo> !info mozila-mplayer
[07:56] <ubotu> Package mozila-mplayer does not exist in dapper
[07:56] <Warbo> !info mozilla-mplayer
[07:56] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[07:56] <darth_gimp> Warbo, looks like its done.. so what's next?
[07:56] <booger> can someone please tell me how to get rid of the black outline animation when that happens when i minimize a window
[07:57] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Exit GParted and go in System>Admin>Disks and try to mount the partition from there. If not, use mount command like before
[07:58] <darth_gimp> Warbo, should it be formatted as well?
[07:59] <NickRivers> whew... managed to get invidia working... had the wrong linux-restricted modules installed :\ lol
[07:59] <NickRivers> err... *nvidia
[07:59] <Warbo> darth_gimp: I think GParted formats it (should be ext3). If not "sudo mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/device" will format /dev/device as ext3
[07:59] <Warbo> NickRivers: There is a problem with nvidia-glx dependencies, but I can't report a bug since the package is not on Launchpad :(
[08:00] <darth_gimp> Warbo, disks manager will do it as well, except I am not certian what the access path should be ... it says /boot
[08:00] <NickRivers> Warbo: dunno anything about that - just know I fixed it lol
[08:00] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Make it wherever you want. For example I keep files in a folder called /home/chris/Files
[08:04] <yairgo`> what is the difference between install in text mode and install in oem mode?
[08:05] <Warbo> yairgo`: OEMs are people who preinstall computers for selling to people. OEM install will not ask any questions like username, so then it can be sold and the user can set it up themself
[08:06] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I got this error when using "mount"
[08:06] <darth_gimp> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[08:06] <darth_gimp>        missing codepage or other error
[08:06] <darth_gimp>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:06] <darth_gimp>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:06] <Warbo> darth_gimp: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail" please?
[08:06] <Warbo> !pastebin
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:06] <peabody> I got xgl + compiz working!!
[08:06] <yairgo`> i think the install cd's are broken unless there is something that you need to do if you have windows installed currently
[08:06] <userundefine> congrats.
[08:06] <yairgo`> because i cant get the install cd's to work
[08:07] <Warbo> yairgo`: You need to shrink Windows
[08:07] <yairgo`> warbo what do you mean shrink it?
[08:07] <silentread> yairgo, did u try testing the cds with ubuntu media check?
[08:07] <Warbo> yairgo`: You cannot install Ubuntu if your entire hard drive is full of Windows
[08:07] <peabody> Does gparted still require a defrag on an NTFS partition?  It's been over a year since I've been Linux only...
[08:07] <yairgo`> you mean keep an open partitoin?
[08:08] <booger> please someone help? its a stupid question i knwo, but an easy answer
[08:08] <booger> can someone please tell me how to get rid of the black outline animation when that happens when i minimize a window
[08:08] <Warbo> peabody: I used it recently and I think it helps. It is possible to shrink a fragmented filesystem, but since it is full of gaps, the "used space" is actually more than it should be
[08:08] <userundefine> peabody, "require a defrag"?  I've messed with ntfs partitions in gparted and never seen anything about defragging
[08:08] <peabody> booger: Good question.  I hav no idea
[08:08] <Warbo> yairgo`: Keep free space and Ubuntu will set itself up in it
[08:08] <Warbo> !gparted > yairgo`
[08:09] <booger> i've removed them from happening when i open an app, but not for minimizing...anyone have ideas?
[08:09] <[b] urk> peabody, its smart to defrag, its less go wrong
[08:09] <[b] urk> less likely*
[08:09] <peabody> userundefine: A long time ago I was under the impression that gparted resizing basically didn't check if the end of what you were resizing was used
[08:09] <Warbo> booger: The only thing I can think of is System Tools>Configuration Editor
[08:09] <yairgo`> i have a windows partitioning program i can use really quick
[08:09] <booger> Warbo: i guessed its there, but there is so much, i'm not sure where to look
[08:10] <userundefine> peabody, ah, well, I've never resized ntfs with gparted, so I wouldn't know.
[08:10] <Warbo> yairgo`: GParted has a 0% record of failures if the user follows the instructions. Windows programs aren't as good
[08:10] <Warbo> booger: It would be metacity, but I don't know if there is such an option
[08:10] <darth_gimp> Warbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19275
[08:10] <Warbo> (apps>metacity)
[08:10] <yairgo`> how do i run gparted when i do not have any flavor of unix installed
[08:10] <llama32> how do i use ntp? i just want to synch my clock with ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[08:11] <peabody> So what other neat things can I do with my desktop now that I got compiz up and runnig?
[08:11] <peabody> I dig the cube flip
[08:11] <llama32> yairgo`: knoppix, sysrescuecd have qparted
[08:11] <ardchoille> booger: This is a window manager specific thing. You can switch window managers in gnome and that is one way of fixing it.
[08:11] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Have you added it to fstab?
[08:11] <rob138> Hi, i have searched and have yet to find a solution, the forums did not return anything in my problem, whenever i enter a website that has any sort of flash, ie youtube, homestarrunner, it have ffunctional flash (w/o sound though), but as i leave the page, firefox crashes. can anyone help me
[08:11] <Knome> broken apt: http://pastebin.ca/107985
[08:11] <userundefine> peabody, play with the plugin options.  turn on raindrops and let your eyesight go to rubbish
[08:11] <darth_gimp> Warbo, no
[08:11] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Or are you using a -t option?
[08:11] <yairgo`> oh well ive already started the windows repartition so its no big deal
[08:12] <darth_gimp> Warbo, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/shawn/drive2
[08:12] <peabody> userundefine: cool, raindrops, will do
[08:12] <booger> ardchoille, can you elaborate?  how does one switch managers?
[08:12] <yairgo`> and besides if it fails ill just reinstall with just ubuntu and use my laptop for windows
[08:12] <booger> Warbo, there is a metacity in the gconf-editor...i'll try to see if there is an option, though i'm not sure what any of it means
[08:12] <peabody> Is there a way to get a fast video overlay in xgl?
[08:12] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Well, it is complaining that the partition is not an NTFS partition. Which is what we want, but for some reason it is not mounting it as ext3
[08:13] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Add "-t ext3" to the mount line
[08:13] <kintaro0e> hi guys..what shall i install to open a *.rar file?
[08:13] <ardchoille> booger: Metacity is the default window manager in gnome. You can switch to fluxbox, openbox, blackbox or almost any other window manager. I switched to openbox as my window manager in gnome and I wrote a tutorial about how to do it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[08:13] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so           sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/shawn/drive2 -t ext3
[08:13] <Warbo> !info unrar-nonfree
[08:13] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[08:13] <Warbo> !info unrar
[08:13] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:13] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yes
[08:13] <booger> ardchoille, thanks man, i'll look into it...
[08:14] <userundefine> peabody, what do you mean, fast video overlay?  video playback?
[08:14] <tehquickness> LG CU500
[08:14] <Warbo> ardchoille: I use E16 in GNOME. Works great
[08:14] <ardchoille> booger: There is a nice list of window managers at: http://xwinman.org/
[08:14] <tehquickness> I have a quick question, In my places menu, there is a new item called bookmarks and when I expand it, it gives me a list of all the folders in the / directory anyone  know what could be causing this or how to fix it?
[08:14] <ardchoille> Warbo: e16 is awesome, good job :)
[08:14] <darth_gimp> Warbo, that seemed to work...
[08:15] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so do we now add it to fstab?
[08:15] <ardchoille> Warbo: Perhaps you should write a tutorial about how you switched to e16, would be a good reference for others :)
[08:15] <Geoffrey2> what is a good (and hopefully not expensive) VM I can run in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <peabody> userundefine: I tried to play a video.  It was much slower (not really watchable).  Super fast without xgl
[08:15] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yep. "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[08:15] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, vmware server.  it's free as in beer.
[08:15] <Warbo> !info qemu
[08:15] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[08:15] <Warbo> !info vmware-player
[08:15] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[08:15] <peabody> userundefine: I was curious if there was a way to make video overlays work
[08:16] <userundefine> peabody, strange.  Do you have your video card's drivers installed?  I can playback video smoothly with and without xgl/compiz on
[08:16] <darth_gimp> Warbo, kinda scary... what am I doing in the file?
[08:16] <peabody> userundefine: What video player?
[08:16] <rob138> Hi, i have searched and have yet to find a solution, whenever i enter a website that has any sort of flash, ie youtube, homestarrunner, it have ffunctional flash (w/o sound though), but as i leave the page, firefox crashes. can anyone help me
[08:16] <Recks> Heya
[08:16] <Recks> how would I change the permissions on a drive so I can access it?
[08:17] <userundefine> peabody, mplayer, but also VLC, Totem, and xine, but I don't really like those players.
[08:17] <peabody> userundefine: Let me try a few things from the commandline.
[08:17] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Look for your "/" line, then make a copy of it at the bottom. Then change all of the bits to the new options. Under "options" just put "defaults", and change the numbers at the end to 0  1
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> vmware or qemu?  do they basically function the same...any performance differences between the two?
[08:17] <kana> rob138: flash uses oss close anything that uses the sound device as i use flash
[08:18] <booger> Warbo, you nailed it right on the head...thanks so much
[08:18] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, why not try both, see which suits your fancy.
[08:18] <darth_gimp> Warbo, can I paste bin it for you?
[08:18] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: VMWare is faster
[08:18] <booger> ardchoille, thank you also
[08:18] <ardchoille> Recks: When you mount a drive, you mount it to a mountpoint. Change permissions of the mountpoint and that should enable you to write to it
[08:18] <tehquickness> Geoffrey: I would use vmware player and use qemu to create the virtual disks
[08:18] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Qemu can do multiple processors (PowerPC, etc.) but if you want to virtualise, rather than emulate, you will need KQemu which is on qemu.org
[08:18] <ardchoille> booger: You're welcome :)
[08:18] <Warbo> darth_gimp: OK
[08:19] <darth_gimp> Warbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19276
[08:19] <booger> one more question...Does anyone know how to make Thunderbird the default Mail Client?
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, I'll probably want to spend some time examining qemu's website, since I really don't know what the difference is between "virtualising" and "emulating"
[08:20] <drnick_> for thunderbird go to system - prefrences -preferred applications
[08:20] <ardchoille> booger: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[08:20] <tehquickness> I have a quick question, In my places menu, there is a new item called bookmarks and when I expand it, it gives me a list of all the folders in the / directory anyone  know what could be causing this or how to fix it?
[08:21] <Warbo> darth_gimp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19277
[08:21] <ardchoille> tehquickness: Open nautilus, go to Bookmarks in the menubar
[08:21] <drnick_> thequickness are you sure your not in "tree' viw?
[08:21] <tehquickness> hmm
[08:21] <tehquickness> well it is on the "start menu"
[08:22] <tehquickness> oo ok edit
[08:22] <tehquickness> gotcha
[08:22] <tehquickness> problem solved thanks lol
[08:22] <drnick_> np
[08:22] <darth_gimp> Warbo, ok I pasted that and saved it...
[08:22] <ardchoille> tehquickness: When you set bookmarks in nautilus, they also show up in the Places menu
[08:22] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so then.. is the drive now ready for use? Will it be mounted at start up?
[08:22] <tehquickness> ardchoille: thanks
[08:23] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[08:23] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Emulating is creating a computer out of software. It means you can run any computer (Mac, Amiga, Sega, Playststion, etc.) inside another, but it goes slow. Virtualising makes an emulator of the computer you are running (probably a PC), but instead of emulating everything, there is no point since you already have a PC, so it sends the processing and stuff directly to your real hardware (but in a non-conflicting way).
[08:24] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yes it will be mounted at startup, or when you run "sudo mount -a"
[08:24] <darth_gimp> Warbo, thank-you sooooo much
[08:24] <Recks> what's the shell command to move a file from one drive to another?
[08:24] <userundefine> Recks, mv
[08:24] <Recks> kk thx
[08:24] <Warbo> Recks: "mv /location1 /location2"
[08:24] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so am I correct in thinking that anything I put into the drive2 folder will be added to the drive?
[08:25] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yes
[08:25] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, are there any downsides to Virtualizing?
[08:25] <Warbo> darth_gimp: You may need to run "sudo chmod 777 /home/shawn/drive2"
[08:25] <darth_gimp> Warbo, you've saved me soooo much frustration! Thanks a million!
[08:26] <effbiae> hi all, anyone got a minute to help me diagnose interface and dhcp probs?
[08:26] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: It is slower than running a real computer, but the best virtualisers (like VMWare) is almost full speed (when you take into account that you are running 2 operating systems at the same time)
[08:26] <malawi> hello everybody
[08:26] <tehquickness> anyone use a dell laptop in here?
[08:26] <malawi> Greetings from poland
[08:26] <malawi> I am ubuntu operator 6.06 version
[08:27] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Virtual computers are more secure than real ones as well, since if Windows gets full of viruses in a virtual machine you can just close it and carry on running Ubuntu
[08:27] <buddhalover> hi malawi
[08:27] <malawi> hi
[08:27] <malawi> where r u from??
[08:29] <malawi> Its there any people??
[08:29] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, so if I wanted to run both Windows and Ubuntu, I'd be better off running Windows inside a VM in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: I would say so
[08:29] <Recks> Is there a place to get codecs to play .avi files and like .wmv files?
[08:29] <buddhalover> malawi: i'm from the philippines
[08:30] <bimberi> !codecs
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <ripdisk> how does one get the sshd to work in 5.0
[08:30] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Ubuntu is seen as more stable than Windows, so Windows is more likely to crash. If it crashes in a VM you will need to restart it. If it crashes with Ubuntu in a VM, it will take down Ubuntu too
[08:30] <malawi> ok
[08:30] <bimberi> ripdisk: sudo aptitude install ssh
[08:30] <ripdisk> just type that?
[08:30] <buddhalover> i am running a kubuntu-edubuntu mutant because i screwed up the packages. :(
[08:30] <userundefine> buddhalover, from stumbleupon, right?
[08:31] <buddhalover> yup
[08:31] <Geoffrey2> I realize the opinion in here would be "just don't use Windows", but there are simply some applications I like to use that have no equivalent in Linux, and probably never will
[08:31] <buddhalover> ;)
[08:31] <bimberi> ripdisk: ubuntu doesn't install a sshd by default so yes, that will instal it
[08:31] <Warbo> buddhalover: There is no difference really. They are the same distro
[08:31] <malawi> To my comp i have Windows Aurox ubuntu Free BSD and Red Hat
[08:31] <buddhalover> userundefine you stumble?
[08:31] <chris86wm> Geoffrey2, why not dual boot?
[08:31] <userundefine> buddhalover, sure, you [used to]  send me a bunch of links.  I haven't used stumbleupon in a while
[08:31] <ripdisk> bimberi: do i have to do anything to make it start on boot
[08:31] <Recks> Where would I get codecs to play .avi's and .wmv's in linux?
[08:31] <tehquickness> Geoffry: what programs are the must have programs?
[08:32] <buddhalover> i haven't been sending links much recently.... too many clicks to send the good stuff...
[08:32] <bimberi> ripdisk: nope, it will be started on boot, as well as when you install it
[08:32] <ardchoille> !codecs > Recks
[08:32] <buddhalover> 1500 clicks to send to everyone.
[08:32] <ripdisk> bimberi: thank you!
[08:32] <bimberi> ripdisk:  np :)
[08:32] <userundefine> buddhalover, a hassle surely.
[08:32] <Recks> ardchoille: what?
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> chris86wm, I do that now...but I was on here a few nights ago and it was suggested there were advantages to running Windows inside Ubuntu, rather than dual booting...big one being you don't need to keep rebooting to use the applications in each OS
[08:32] <buddhalover> userundefine: what's your stumbleupon name?
[08:32] <tehquickness> buddhalover: what links do you want to send?
[08:32] <ardchoille> Recks: Read the pm that ubotu sent you
[08:32] <userundefine> buddhalover, p0ldy. http://p0ldy.stumbleupon.com/
[08:33] <ripdisk> bimberi: for the record, I run slackware, this is just for a friend that doesn't understand the power of asking people stuff on irc, and i'm using this as an example
[08:33] <buddhalover> oh poldy i know you
[08:33] <buddhalover> :)!
[08:33] <buddhalover> you have a very interesting avatar
[08:33] <buddhalover> reminds me of a facial
[08:33] <userundefine> Yeah I like it
[08:33] <buddhalover> lol
[08:33] <bimberi> ripdisk: kk, hopefully (s)he's impressed :)
[08:33] <ripdisk> bimberi: lol, thanks bye
[08:33] <chris86wm> Geoffrey2, why not do both (dual boot and run VM)?
[08:33] <buddhalover> tehquickness: just the quality stuff
[08:34] <chris86wm> the VM being inside of ubuntu of course
[08:34] <tehquickness> buddhalover: lol
[08:34] <Warbo> chris86wm: And pay for 2 Windows licenses?
[08:34] <tehquickness> buddhalover: it better be the best
[08:34] <buddhalover> who else stumbles in here?!
[08:34] <buddhalover> ;)
[08:34] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[08:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:34] <chris86wm> Warbo, pay for 2 licenses? that wouldnt be needed
[08:34] <jbrimble_> Hi. I'm installing my new Fuji Xerox 203A laser printer, and Ubuntu has detected it.. Now it's asking me for a driver.. And the manufacturer has been set to alps. Which driver do I use? They all have names like MD 1000 ot MD 5500.. ?
[08:34] <zcat[1] > how do I stop soundcards jumping around; sometimes when I boot the first card is /dev/dsp and other times it comes up as /dev/dsp1
[08:34] <tehquickness> owned my bad
[08:35] <Warbo> chris86wm: I am pretty sure it is illegal to run it in a VM and PC with one license
[08:35] <buddhalover> sorry
[08:35] <crimsun> zcat[1] : that's a device init issue and there's not much that can be done about that. Why not use asoundconf(1)?
[08:35] <chris86wm> Warbo, but its all installed on the one PC
[08:35] <tehquickness> warbo: I am not sure about that
[08:35] <Warbo> chris86wm: Unless you use your physical disk as the VM's drive, which is dangeraous
[08:35] <tehquickness> warbo: it is only being used on one pc
[08:35] <chris86wm> Warbo, as long as it is all done one one pc, then I think its alright
[08:36] <chris86wm> *on one PC
[08:36] <zcat[1] > what, every time I boot?
[08:36] <Warbo> chris86wm: I was wondering about that kind of thing when I wrote up the VMWare Wiki page
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> chris86wm, reason #1, 20GB HD
[08:36] <chris86wm> lol @ 20 gigs, you know you can buy a bigger drive
[08:37] <chris86wm> hard drives are cheap these days
[08:37] <zcat[1] > problem; I have cron jobs set up to record the radio. The radio is plugged into the second soundcard which _used_ to ALWAYS be /dev/dsp1 .. now half the time when I reboot it's /dev/dsp
[08:37] <Warbo> chris86wm: Just to run Windows? I think that is an argument to NOT run Windows :)
[08:37] <chris86wm> 20 gigs wouldnt be enough for me to run anything
[08:38] <darth_gimp> What would cause the trash to not empty?
[08:38] <userundefine> Warbo, at least Vista licensing, not sure about pre-Vista, is going to disallow Vista being run in more than four instances on a PC with the same license, afaik.
[08:38] <Warbo> *first
[08:38] <chris86wm> if you must stick with only 20, then it would be best to stick with the dual boot only i think
[08:38] <buddhalover> i need help...
[08:38] <ahmeni> was looking at sata drives today, like $55 canadian for 80 gigs
[08:38] <trafiq> !info edgy
[08:38] <ubotu> Package edgy does not exist in dapper
[08:39] <Warbo> userundefine: Yeah, I read about that on Slashdot. Not sure about XP htough
[08:39] <trafiq> !status edgy
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about status edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:39] <darth_gimp> ahmeni, not a bad price!
[08:39] <ahmeni> the kind of prices that make you want to do silly things with raid
[08:39] <Geoffrey2> whoops, my bad...40GB
[08:39] <bimberi> !edgy
[08:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:39] <trafiq> ah :p
[08:39] <trafiq> thx
[08:39] <bimberi> np :)
[08:39] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: Got files in the Trash that are owned by another user? ls -lha ~/.Trash
[08:39] <chris86wm> Warbo, that issue is one similar to dvd playback in ubuntu. technically it may be illegal, but who is going to care?
[08:39] <trafiq> in this moment edgy is for masochist ;)
[08:39] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, I am sure there are things there that need to be Root
[08:40] <Warbo> chris86wm: Isn't that just in the US? I think I am fine
[08:40] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, but I do not know how to do that...
[08:40] <chris86wm> warbo, yea, just in the us
[08:40] <Warbo> yay for the UK :)
[08:40] <chris86wm> lol, i am breaking the law if I watch my purchased dvd on my ubuntu box
[08:40] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: What exactly are you trying to do Empty the trash?
[08:40] <chris86wm> that is rediculous
[08:41] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, yes... empty it
[08:41] <Warbo> chris86wm: Well it has only been legal for me to rip CDs for my portable player for a few weeks
[08:41] <jbrimble_> anyone know where i can get drivers for my xerox for ubuntu?
[08:41] <Warbo> !printer
[08:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:41] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: Open a term and type:  ls -lha ~/.Trash   and see who owns the files
[08:41] <chris86wm> lol, its a crazy world
[08:42] <chris86wm> how the hell else are you supposed to get mp3s for your player? did they expect you to rebuy the album in mp3 format?
[08:42] <zcat[1] > chris86wm: you can buy mp3's ??
[08:42] <Warbo> iTunes
[08:42] <Warbo> Napster, etc.
[08:42] <userundefine> chris86wm, did they expect you to rebuy 8tracks, tapes, and cds?  Yes, of course
[08:43] <Warbo> Mind you, is an iTunes account only for iPod owners?
[08:43] <chris86wm> no
[08:43] <Geoffrey2> tehquickness, lesse...Windows programs I use....Itunes, Real Arcade, Quicktime, WIndows Media Player, a legal DVD player, to name a few
[08:43] <crimsun> zcat[1] : does the app /have/ to use alsa's oss emulation?
[08:43] <zcat[1] > in NZ it is still illegal to rip your own CD's. iTunes is not available here. iPods can only be used for free content.
[08:43] <chris86wm> but iTunes is a horrid app
[08:43] <buddhalover> my graphire3 tablet is detected by ubuntu. but it is shaking now. i can't draw properly anymore. anyone have any idea why this is? worked fine on windows before i shifted to ubuntu and destroyed windows completely.
[08:43] <crimsun> zcat[1] : (and no, you'd only run asoundconf once)
[08:43] <Warbo> userundefine: They will expect you to buy OGGs in a few years, if you are on about "upgrades"
[08:44] <crimsun> zcat[1] : (meaning the entire point is to avoid having to specify indices that are possibly ephemeral)
[08:44] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, "ls: /root/.Trash: No such file or directory"
[08:45] <chris86wm> any of you guys use Gimpshop?
[08:45] <Warbo> I hear it is a little buggy
[08:45] <userundefine> Warbo, I can't see major distributors endorsing something they can't attach every ugly DRM tool they want, as would (I hope) with OGG
[08:45] <dirt> hey i just got home, and ubuntu crashed at the lock screen, so i reset and now im getting crc failed system halted at startup, what should i do to fix this?
[08:45] <chris86wm> i have been meaning to try it, but im lazy
[08:45] <darth_gimp> chris86wm, I use Gimp... but not the gimpshop.. sorry
[08:45] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: It's supposed to have a Trash folder.. mine does
[08:45] <Warbo> userundefine: They could add DRM to it, since it is FLOSS, but GPL3 would force them to allow users to remove it if they want
[08:45] <chris86wm> darth_gimp, yeah currently i am using gimp
[08:46] <zcat[1] > crimsun: you want the full story; a friend of mine has onboard sound (used for playing stuff and text-to-speech cos he's blind), two PCI cards which record stuff via crontab (both using ens1371 chipset) and a USB transmitter. Under breezy they were /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2 and /dev/dsp3, now they're all /dev/wtf every time the machine boots. How do I solve this?
[08:46] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, I'm not sure what to say...
[08:46] <blind> ;o
[08:46] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: Me either
[08:46] <godtvisken> Anyone know of a software email client that is as good as or emulates gmail?
[08:46] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Each partition and device has a folder ".Trash-username" in it's root (top level) directory, and they are counted as part of your trash
[08:47] <crimsun> zcat[1] : you can't if they use the same chipset, since device init is non-deterministic.
[08:47] <zcat[1] > It used to be consistyent every single reboot. What changed?
[08:47] <crimsun> zcat[1] : the best you can do is tell one driver /not/ to grab the default index
[08:47] <zcat[1] > should I just give up and reinstall breezy again..?
[08:47] <buddhalover> ...
[08:47] <userundefine> Warbo, they'd have to distribute the source to the DRM even before gpl3, and considering the ironclad protection of their other schemes like CSS I'm sure it would be quickly exploited ;)
[08:48] <crimsun> zcat[1] : dapper has a completely different method of hardware activation via udev.
[08:48] <ttyfscker> anybody in here use a network card that uses the "tulip" module?
[08:48] <zcat[1] > great. I wich someone had warned me.
[08:48] <dirt> anyone know how to fix a crc error at startup? im running a memtest now...
[08:48] <majestikm> I'm tri-booting, but somehow my mbr got messed up and when I try to boot into winxp it starts up ubuntu... is there any way to repair this, or do I need to start over?
[08:48] <Geoffrey2> tehquickness, I realize for *nix purists most of those programs, like Itunes, are programs to be avoided at all costs....but I grew up with Windows, and those are programs I simply still want to be able to make use of...the only real question is, does it make more sense to go on dual booting, or to run Windows inside Ubuntu
[08:49] <ttyfscker> i installed dapper onto my old pos machine.. and the live cd worked fine on the net.. the install however it loads the module, but it wont get a dhcp reply from the dhcp server and when i set the ip statically it still cant find a route to host.. anybody got any ideas ?
[08:49] <[b] urk> majestikm, try to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:49] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, looks like I need root to remove some of the files...
[08:49] <dirt> im running dapper btw
[08:49] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: If your computer is 2.5GHz or more I would say VMWare would be fine. Anything below that would be awful for virtualised media players
[08:49] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, run windows inside ubuntu.  It's easy and painless/
[08:49] <majestikm> burk, I'm using lilo
[08:50] <tehquickness> Geoffry: sorry i was away for a bit, I am by no means a linux purist and I realizes that there are some programs that jst game be done with out
[08:50] <userundefine> *-/
[08:50] <chris86wm> Geoffrey2, if you plan on using windows more than 50% of the time, then I would just dual boot
[08:50] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, what's the terminal command to delete stuff?
[08:50] <ttyfscker> Geoffrey2:: if you just need one or two apps on occassion then i suggest using vmware
[08:51] <tehquickness> Geoffry: I too have found that there are a few that I cant leave because i need the mfor school, but unless it is a game with hardcore rendering, then you should be able to use vmware
[08:51] <[b] urk> majestikm, try /etc/lilo.conf
[08:51] <gnomefreak> darth_gimp: rm for files and folders
[08:51] <majestikm> okay
[08:51] <majestikm> thanks
[08:51] <Warbo> darth_gimp: rm filename
[08:51] <kana> ttyfscker: would vmware work with printers, scanners and modems that are not supported on linux?
[08:51] <chris86wm> you could always just try to use a vm, and if you dont like it, dont use it
[08:52] <zcat[1] > is there any way of turning off udev and going back to the old behaviour?
[08:52] <ttyfscker> kana:: i have a webcam that isnt supported by linux at all, and it works fine using vmware
[08:52] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: for root? sudo rm  for files,  sudo rm -r  for folders.. but be careful with that
[08:52] <darth_gimp> Warbo, what about folders?
[08:52] <dirt> can someone help me out, i cant load dapper and im stuck on a windows box till i figure out what to do about this crc failed error im getting at startup
[08:52] <kana> ttyfscker: did you need special setting on linux for that?
[08:52] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, thanks
[08:52] <Warbo> darth_gimp: "rm -r foldername"
[08:52] <ttyfscker> kana:: no it was plug and play
[08:52] <Geoffrey2> I had broken down and installed totem-xine, realizing the odds of a patent and copyright friendly wma/wmv player for Linux were slim to nonexistant...but at least on my computer totem playback of protected formats is atrocious at best
[08:53] <ttyfscker> kana:: vmware has really came a long way...  its pretty seamless nowadays
[08:53] <darth_gimp> You guys are awesome!
[08:53] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, thanks
[08:53] <kana> ttyfscker: and seems promising. Do i have to install the full windows or can i just use a window i am dual booting
[08:53] <darth_gimp> Warbo, thanks
[08:53] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: You're welcome :)
[08:53] <Warbo> ttyfscker: Especially since it is in Add/Remove
[08:53] <jn> ttyfscker: sup? can i msg you..
[08:53] <chris86wm> geoffrey have you tried mplayer or vlc?
[08:53] <ttyfscker> jn:: sure bro
[08:54] <ttyfscker> kana:: there is an option for using an existing windows partition when you set up your virtual machine.  but it wont work if its ntfs
[08:54] <zcat[1] > I assume the network cards on my firewall are going to swap around randomly now too then?
[08:54] <[b] urk> how can i make a shortcut to my home folder on my gnome desktop?
[08:55] <Amaranth> [b] urk: it's a gconf key
[08:55] <ttyfscker> kana:: or at least thats the only reason i could think of that i couldnt use my existing partition.. you can however just create a virtual machine partition.. that works better anyway.. if you use vmware for your other partition it will most likely mess things up when you actually boot windows normally
[08:55] <kana> ttyfscker: thanx though i have no option i have it as ntfs and can not install window it is the way lenovo set the dam machine
[08:55] <Geoffrey2> no, I'll have to try them and see if they work better...under totem-zine, wmv playback looks extremely overexposed..with large portions of the video playback almost completely washed out
[08:55] <Amaranth> [b] urk: open gconf-editor and go to /apps/nautilus/desktop, tick the home_icon_visible key
[08:55] <zcat[1] > who the fsck decided it was a good idea to have the kernel allocated devices names in absolutely no predictable order?
[08:55] <ttyfscker> kana:: a virtual machine will install as 1 file on your linux partition
[08:56] <darth_gimp> Well I think I'm done for tonight..
[08:56] <darth_gimp> thanks a bunch!
[08:56] <[b] urk> Amaranth, thanks :)
[08:56] <Amaranth> zcat[1] : they're ordered in the order than they come up
[08:56] <kana> ttyfscker: for lenovo only way to install window is from the rescue partition which do not honour or recognize linux lol
[08:56] <Amaranth> zcat[1] : come up as in start working
[08:56] <zcat[1] > which has been different on about six consecutive reboots.
[08:56] <PORDO> i have a usb speakerphone that should use the module snd-usb-usx2y.  how do i modprobe this.  when i modprobe the actual .ko file, it says it isn't found, even though i'm modprobing it directly.
[08:57] <ttyfscker> kana:: if your in linux all you have to do is use vmware workstation.. it will install windows like that
[08:57] <Amaranth> kana: My HP was like that but I paid the $10 extra to get a WinXP cd with it. Then I wiped the rescue partition.
[08:57] <kana> ttyfscker: thanx for all the info and help friend :)
[08:57] <zcat[1] > for all practical purposes they're completely random.
[08:57] <ttyfscker> kana::  your welcome
[08:57] <Amaranth> zcat[1] : so your hardware is consistent
[08:57] <kana> Amaranth: lenovo will only send me a set of rescue partitions
[08:57] <Amaranth> kana: annoying
[08:57] <kana> Amaranth: will never send the window install one
[08:58] <kana> Amaranth: and those are 6 CDs lol
[08:58] <PORDO> does anyone have any clue how to get the mvox mv100 working under linux?
[08:59] <the_hammer> what compiler do ya need for ubuntu?
[08:59] <zcat[1] > is there any way of making this work? turning udev off? running the breezy kernels?
[08:59] <Warbo> the_hammer: None :)
[08:59] <Warbo> the_hammer: If you want one install build-essential to get GCC 4.0
[08:59] <zcat[1] > otherwise I am going to have to completely reinstall to get back to breezy which was mostly working
[09:00] <the_hammer> i have an eggdrop and cant seem to get it working
[09:00] <ttyfscker> kana:: what is lenovo?
[09:00] <kana> IBM
[09:00] <Warbo> ttyfscker: A company. Bought IBM's PC business
[09:00] <the_hammer> it almost works on wifes pc but her dcc isnt working cuz of router
[09:00] <chris86wm> lenovo sounds so gay lol
[09:00] <burepe> anyone use vnc from a mac to view an ubuntu comp
[09:00] <Warbo> chris86wm: Gay? Please don't use gay as an insult
[09:01] <ttyfscker> lenovo sounds like some arabian company
[09:01] <burepe> word
[09:01] <Warbo> They are chinese I htink
[09:01] <chris86wm> well, how about odd
[09:01] <kana> Warbo: correct
[09:01] <ttyfscker> ohh come on
[09:01] <ttyfscker> ubuntu is supporting the queers now?
[09:01] <Warbo> chris86wm: You realise you just said "gay == odd"? Anyway, I don't have a problem with odd :)
[09:02] <chris86wm> well gay=queer and queer=odd
[09:02] <the_hammer> what kind of install commands are for abuntu?
[09:02] <Gorlist> Hi, im going to reformat and reinstall windows on my second drive - how can i reinstall the Ubuntu Grub loader back onto the master boot record?
[09:02] <chris86wm> lol, sry to be offensive
[09:02] <Warbo> ttyfscker: No, Ubuntu is not offending anybody
[09:02] <ajmitch> ttyfscker, chris86wm: enough of that, ok
[09:02] <Warbo> gay=happy
[09:02] <Warbo> Lenovo sounds happy :)
[09:02] <ardchoille> !grub Gorlist
[09:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub Gorlist - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:02] <ardchoille> !grub > Gorlist
[09:02] <Gorlist> thankyou
[09:02] <zcat[1] > AAAAARGH!!!
[09:03] <crazy_penguin>   /names
[09:03] <ardchoille> /names -count
[09:03] <BeGeMoT> hi all
[09:03] <buddhalover> hello begemot
[09:04] <BeGeMoT> how i can set automake-1.9 by default... now i have automake 1.4
[09:04] <vigilante_> how do I download a package from Edgy that I found on packages.ubuntu.com ?
[09:04] <scrumpy> yo
[09:05] <Warbo> vigilante_: Just get the .deb file, it should give you a link to it
[09:05] <ttyfscker> vigilante_:: you dont unless your using edgy
[09:05] <scrumpy> very noob question but how do i access windows partitions
[09:05] <buddhalover> can anyone help me with my tablet problem?
[09:05] <Warbo> !ntfs
[09:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:05] <zcat[1] > does anybody know how to make the kernel stop using udev and go back to the old way of setting things up?
[09:05] <vigilante_> ttyfscker: I want a specific package from edgy that is only available there, it affects nothing else (kxdocker)
[09:06] <userundefine> zcat[1] , recompile the kernel without udev support.
[09:06] <Geoffrey2> ok, will mplayer support something like wmv by default, or do I need to add packages for that?
[09:06] <ttyfscker> vigilante_:: are you sure it doesnt have depends?
[09:06] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, you need to install the appropriate codecs, and then mplayer will play the files without hassle
[09:06] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Put some Windows codecs in /usr/lib/codecs
[09:07] <apeman2021> can anyone tell me the file that contains the user rights?>
[09:07] <ttyfscker> well if the .deb package is on there download it to /tmp   and cd /tmp      then do dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:07] <ardchoille> userundefine: except wmv9 files
[09:07] <apeman2021> is it passwd.conf?
[09:07] <vigilante_> Warbo: ttyfscker it does, but the depends are in dapper I believe
[09:07] <vigilante_> Warbo: I can't find link to deps
[09:07] <vigilante_> debs
[09:07] <zcat[1] > userundefine: is there any way to make udev pick up cards in specific order ?
[09:07] <ttyfscker> vigilante_:: if they arent the exact version then it wont install
[09:07] <vigilante_> ttyfscker: I want to try
[09:08] <chris86wm> Geoffrey, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:08] <userundefine> ardchoille, how are they different?  does that only apply to drm'd wmv files or all wmv9?  I haven't run across that
[09:08] <ttyfscker> well if the .deb package is on there download it to /tmp   and cd /tmp      then do dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:08] <Warbo> vigilante_: IIRC click on the package's name
[09:08] <darth_gimp> Warbo, one last question
[09:08] <ttyfscker> did you read that vigilante_ ?
[09:08] <buddhalover> okay thanks anyway. I'll try figuring it out for myself for the mean time...
[09:08] <Geoffrey2> scrumpy, just a warning...if you're accessing ntfs partitions, don't try to write to them....support for that is questionable at best, and you can easily mess things up doing so
[09:08] <darth_gimp> Warbo, is there a trash on this new drive?
[09:08] <userundefine> zcat[1] , not that I know of, but I haven't ever tried looking into it so I wouldn't know either.
[09:08] <vigilante_> ttyfscker: yes, thankyou, just gotta find the deb now
[09:08] <Warbo> darth_gimp: It is in .Trash-username
[09:08] <zcat[1] > anyone else know?
[09:08] <ardchoille> userundefine: From what I hear *all* wmv9 are drm'd
[09:08] <Warbo> darth_gimp: (show hidden files)
[09:08] <userundefine> ardchoille, ah, wow, hadn't heard that
[09:09] <darth_gimp> Warbo, got it.. thanks...
[09:09] <vigilante_> Warbo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/kxdocker where do I click on here?
[09:09] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I feel like such a newbie..
[09:09] <darth_gimp> Would this stuff be covered in the Ubuntu Book?
[09:09] <PORDO> is there ANY speakerphone that works in linux?
[09:09] <apeman2021> how can i give myself root permissions while logged in as a suer?
[09:09] <chris86wm> when is that book coming out btw?
[09:10] <Warbo> darth_gimp: I was a couple of years ago. Mind you I had some experience with a decent OS in Amiga (Shell, partitions, etc.)
[09:10] <PORDO> apeman2020 su
[09:10] <chris86wm> su
[09:10] <Warbo> apeman2021: "sudo -s -H"
[09:10] <darth_gimp> ok ... getting "the look" from my Wife...
[09:10] <darth_gimp> later
[09:11] <the_hammer> i cant figger out the commands for ubuntu ive tried make...make install...configure and none work
[09:11] <apeman2021> warbo_ thanks, but i cant edit any files as i am logged in as user.. it also wont let me change permissions..
[09:11] <Warbo> the_hammer: Use checkinstall instead of make install
[09:11] <ardchoille> the_hammer: Have you installed build-essential?
[09:11] <Warbo> !checkinstall
[09:11] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[09:11] <ardchoille> !b-e
[09:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:11] <Warbo> apeman202Run sudo -s -H to get a root shell
[09:11] <the_hammer> mabe not how do i get that the build thing?
[09:11] <ku> !firestarter
[09:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:11] <apeman2021> the_hammer_same thing happened to me. i got a piece of software called ... enhanced_builder.. i canr rcalld
[09:11] <tehquickness> night all
[09:12] <ardchoille> !b-e > the_hammer
[09:12] <Warbo> the_hammer: Open up a package manager like System>Admin>Synaptic and install build-essential
[09:12] <chris86wm> lol, i love the name "ubotu"
[09:12] <apeman2021> all_ sudo -i will work as well!
[09:12] <apeman2021> thanks!
[09:12] <zcat[1] > found a solution; it seems I can probe what device ended up as /dev/wtf so all I have to do is check and if they're not in the right order, reboot. Eventually it will come up how it's supposed to be.
[09:13] <chris86wm> anyone know the release date of the Ubuntu Book?
[09:13] <Warbo> lol @ /dev/wtf. That should be the stderr
[09:13] <ardchoille> chris86wm: I saw an Ubuntu book in the mall two days ago. It had a yellow and black cover
[09:13] <chris86wm> ardchiolle, is that ubuntu for dummies lol?
[09:14] <ardchoille> no
[09:14] <apeman2021> could i do this as well "chown USER /etc/apache/httpd.conf"?
[09:14] <chris86wm> so THE ubuntu book has a yellow/black cover and is already out?
[09:14] <Warbo> apeman2021: DON'T do that
[09:14] <ompaul> chris86wm, there are several books
[09:15] <chris86wm> well the Official one
[09:15] <Madpilot> chris86wm, the official Ubuntu book is due out in mid-August sometime
[09:15] <chris86wm> ah
[09:15] <Madpilot> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132435942/ref=sr_11_1/002-0559408-7595222?ie=UTF8
[09:15] <zcat[1] > so what else does udev actually do? anything useful?
[09:15] <buddhalover> does anyone in here you a graphire3 tablet with ubuntu?
[09:15] <chris86wm> thats going to be a good read
[09:15] <the_hammer> warbo i tried this sudo Synaptic install build-essential and not doing anything
[09:15] <vigilante_> Warbo: I know the kxdocker deb is in Edgy/Universe... can I browse to it?  (doubleclicking on package name does not help)
[09:16] <Warbo> zcat[1] : Sort of. It controls your hardware. Kind of important...
[09:16] <chris86wm> ubuntu hacks was also a pretty good book
[09:16] <zcat[1] > Warbo: breezy managed without it
[09:16] <Warbo> the_hammer: "sudo aptitude install build-essential" Synaptic is a GUI
[09:16] <ardchoille> chris86wm: It's this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590596277/sr=1-1/qid=1154330161/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9794958-8417641?ie=UTF8&s=books
[09:16] <sgkf> hey how do i check if my sound cards installed in uuntu
[09:16] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : is it /dev entries that are random, or network interfaces?
[09:16] <sgkf> ubuntu
[09:16] <the_hammer> did nothing also
[09:16] <Warbo> vigilante_: put archive.ubuntu.com into your browser and go to the right "pool" folder
[09:17] <userundefine> the_hammer, what are you trying to install?
[09:17] <zcat[1] > /dev/dsp (there are four sound devices, onboard, two ens1371-based PCI cards, and a USB FM transmitter)
[09:17] <the_hammer> build-essential
[09:17] <Warbo> the_hammer: As in, it just dropped back to a termianl with absolutely no output?
[09:17] <chris86wm> ardchoille, I see. i havent seen that one before. for some reason a "yellow and black" cover made me think of the for dummies series of books
[09:17] <Nilvio> is there eny wow player here ?
[09:17] <ardchoille> chris86wm: Ah, yeah, I can see why you thought that
[09:17] <the_hammer> exactly
[09:18] <the_hammer> i put the comand in and hit enter and it just went back to a prompt again
[09:18] <Warbo> the_hammer: I find that very hard to believe
[09:18] <Warbo> the_hammer: "sudo aptitude"
[09:18] <ardchoille> chris86wm: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=br_ss_hs/002-9794958-8417641?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dstripbooks%3Arelevance-above&keywords=ubuntu&Go.x=7&Go.y=11&Go=Go
[09:19] <chris86wm> nice, a bunch to choose from
[09:19] <chris86wm> have you read any?
[09:19] <ttyfscker> the_hammer:: use this command exactly as i put it:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:19] <ttyfscker> that will work...
[09:20] <ardchoille> chris86wm: Not yet, but I'm planning to buy the one I showed you and The Official Ubuntu Book
[09:20] <zcat[1] > with four sound devices, it should take an average of about 16 reboots before they come up 'correctly' so unless someone has a batter suggestion, that script is the winner......
[09:20] <vigilante_> Warbo: thx, got it
[09:20] <ompaul> chris86wm, your now outside of the scope of the channel (support in reply to questions), we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chating
[09:20] <chris86wm> ah sry
[09:20] <zcat[1] > *better
[09:20] <ompaul> chris86wm, np
[09:20] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[09:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:20] <chris86wm> i wonder from time to time
[09:20] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : yes, udev rules are modifiable so that you should be able to enforce some device order
[09:21] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19279 have a look
[09:22] <frandavid100> hiya! sorry to bother, but... what's the place to suggest new packages for the repos?
[09:22] <MTecknology> Does anybody know how to make ChatZilla start in a tab in firefox when I start my computer? Or at least how to make it start up?
[09:22] <ttyfscker> the_hammer:: thats F*cked up
[09:22] <frandavid100> if I wanted this on the repos, fo example, http://timesaver.sourceforge.net/ , what should I do?
[09:22] <ajmitch> frandavid100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[09:23] <Warbo> the_hammer: Are you in the group "admin"?
[09:23] <kameronk> !aptitude
[09:23] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:23] <Geoffrey2> refresh my memory, if I have some Windows .exe installation files, can I just double-click them to make wine run them, or do i need to run them from the terminal?
[09:23] <the_hammer> yup
[09:23] <ttyfscker> Warbo:: even if he wasnt it would return a permission denied
[09:23] <frandavid100> let me check; thanks ajmitch
[09:23] <userundefine> MTecknology, you can put firefox in your startup programs, and you can use session saver to remember your default tabs (I'm 90% sure).  couple that together and you've got what you're after.
[09:23] <kameronk> does anyone in here run an apache server?
[09:23] <chris86wm> how the heck does that happen?
[09:23] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: I looked into that; I can't figure out what device I'm trying to name; /dev/dsp and /dev/audio and /dev/mixer all point to the same card, the only thing udevinfo shows different is noithing I can use
[09:23] <buddhalover> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcGuidelines
[09:23] <ttyfscker> kameronk:: i do..
[09:24] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: you think you could dig up an example for me?
[09:24] <the_hammer> told ya i wasnt fully sh*t lol
[09:24] <ardchoille> lol
[09:24] <MTecknology> userundefine, I actually have Fx startup with my computer, but Chatzilla doesn't open in a tab
[09:24] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : unlikely, I disabled my onboard sound that I never used :)
[09:24] <kameronk> ttyfscker, could you pastebin your config file? i accidentally deleted it and its nearly impossible to find one, and apt-get doesn't replace it
[09:24] <userundefine> MTecknology, try out the sessionsaver extension
[09:25] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: I don't think verne would be too happy without sound.
[09:25] <ardchoille> the_hammer: Type:  which sudo
[09:26] <jesspher> does adding a sound card to my pc boost my pc performance?
[09:26] <ttyfscker> kameronk::  sudo apt-get --purge apache
[09:26] <kameronk> cool
[09:26] <the_hammer> .../usr/bin/sudo
[09:26] <kameronk> let me try that
[09:26] <userundefine> jesspher, slightly, since sound output will be using your sound card instead of the CPU.
[09:26] <ttyfscker> kameronk:: that should remove it completely.  then sudo apt-get install apache
[09:26] <kameronk> it says invalid operation
[09:26] <ardchoille> the_hammer: ls -lha $(which sudo)
[09:27] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : I would have though you could use the SYSFS properties to distinguish them
[09:27] <jesspher> like how much mhz would it take away from the cpu
[09:27] <ardchoille> the_hammer: Who owns it?
[09:27] <the_hammer> ...-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 108K 2006-05-17 03:43 /usr/bin/sudo
[09:27] <ardchoille> weird
[09:27] <zcat[1] > SYSFS is the major and minor numbers, right?
[09:27] <psiborg> setuid sudo? :)
[09:28] <userundefine> jesspher, depends on the CPU, but nevertheless it won't increase performance *that much*
[09:28] <ardchoille> psiborg: it's alread -rws
[09:28] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : no, SYSFS is what's in /sys/devices, iirc
[09:28] <Ademan> hey how do you create a *.ttf font from a *.spec font?
[09:28] <ardchoille> *already
[09:28] <jesspher> but would i cause better sound clarity?
[09:28] <psiborg> Weird :)
[09:29] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : eg match on SYSFS{vendor} or model
[09:29] <kameronk> ttyfscker, it says: "E: Invalid operation apache" (i tried using apache2 as well
[09:29] <userundefine> jesspher, yes, sound cards have more advanced features for sound than motherboards.  you could also take a look at your speakers (quality)
[09:29] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV may help
[09:29] <ardchoille> Warbo: Would it be that since his sudo isn't working, that gksudo synaptic won't work either?
[09:29] <ajmitch> I'd also do this in a separate file if possible
[09:30] <nikin> !cat
[09:30] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:30] <zcat[1] > ahh, sorry.. yeah... I'm kinda confused, /dev/audio and /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer all point to the same card.. those numbers are all identical; what am I trying to NAME= ?
[09:30] <the_hamme1> ok tell me that sudo command again for the apt-get
[09:30] <the_hamme1> if it dont work this time im a gonna format
[09:30] <chris86wm> after installing keytouch, the default gui for showing volume level has been replaced. how do I revert back to the old one?
[09:30] <jesspher> what are the major companies that makes soundcards
[09:31] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:31] <nikin> synaptic is not working?
[09:31] <userundefine> jesspher, creative is pretty big.  if you're buying it for use with ubuntu or linux, you might want to check the forums and see what sound cards are best supported in linux, which I wouldn't know.
[09:31] <zcat[1] > ID=="0000:00:07.0" should be unique to identify the card; but what am I supposed to be setting?
[09:32] <the_hamme1> well thats messed up royally it worked this time
[09:32] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : my knowledge of this is fairly limited, too
[09:32] <ttyfscker> kameronk:: ask someone else how to use apt-get --purge
[09:32] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Diffeent user account?
[09:32] <ttyfscker> kameronk::  cuz im going to bed
[09:32] <zcat[1] > NAME="dsp" breaks everything; NAME="sound" breaks everything.... I guess there must be something else....
[09:32] <kameronk> thank you ttyfscker
[09:32] <the_hamme1> ya
[09:33] <thundr> I'm having problems getting my sound to work, can anyone help?
[09:33] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : most likely - the usual case is to name them dsp, dsp0, etc
[09:33] <zcat[1] > Why can't soundcards just get detected in PCI-bus order, starting from the lowest slot?
[09:33] <the_hamme1> was interesting anyway
[09:33] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Indeed
[09:35] <tabman> how can I browse the channels which are available on freenode ?
[09:35] <the_hamme1> do /list
[09:35] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : because udev gets notified in device load order, some modules may take fractionally longer to initialise the card
[09:35] <turtleJP> tis not responding at the moment
[09:37] <chris86wm> keytouch seems to have changed my volume gui, how do I revert back to the old one?
[09:37] <chris86wm> http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgl0.png
[09:37] <zcat[1] > I can follow the howto on setting eth0 and usb and stuff, but there's nothing unique between dsp and audio and mixer. Same card, same numbers. The only thing that changes is the major and minor which are basically random at each boot again.
[09:38] <chris86wm> its not a major issue, i just prefer the default one
[09:38] <zcat[1] > so if I give the PCI position of my network card and call it eth0 that should work; for the soundcard what do I call it? dsp is clearly not working.
[09:38] <the_hamme1> ok whats the build commands again for ubuntu make and make install isnt working
[09:39] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : they're most likely meant to all point to the same card, and you get subsequent cards getting dsp1, audio1, etc
[09:39] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: do you have build-essential installed?
[09:39] <the_hamme1> i have my egg backed up on cd and trying to get it to run
[09:39] <the_hamme1> yeah now i do
[09:39] <the_hamme1> lol
[09:39] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: You should read the README and INSTALL files in the sources first, but it usually goes ./configure, make, sudo make install
[09:40] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: yeah, I know that.. but if I pick the ID of the first card and try to NAME=dsp , everything breaks.. how do I tell the kernel I want to point /dev/dsp AND /dev/audio AND /dev/mixer to that card? when I look up any of those devices now all the numbers are the same.
[09:40] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ sudo ./configure
[09:40] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$
[09:40] <lecurel> Hello, I'm trying to install postfix and have read that i need to install postfix-tls, when I try to get from atp I get a message "you need to select one specify"
[09:40] <zcat[1] > There's no 'subdevice' that changes
[09:41] <arooni> hey folks
[09:41] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: you only need sudo for make install
[09:41] <balsat_> i have  a question about dcc
[09:41] <zcat[1] > afk...
[09:41] <the_hamme1> well when i do ./configure says permission denied
[09:41] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : probably 3 separate rules, each with same SYSFS attributes - I can't help much further at the moment
[09:41] <arooni> how do i tell ubuntu to use another partition (not the one its currently running on)
[09:42] <lecurel> i make install whith sudo
[09:42] <arooni> i mean
[09:42] <arooni> how do i tell it to put its swap stuff on that partition
[09:42] <Chabbrik> Hello, I have run into a problem. I install USB printer, but wizard specifies URI wrong. It tries to connect to /dev/usb/lp0, while the real address is /dev/lp0
[09:42] <Chabbrik> Symlinking didn't help
[09:42] <Chabbrik> Any advice is appreciated
[09:43] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ sudo ./configure
[09:43] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ sudo make install
[09:43] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$
[09:43] <userundefine> arooni, mkswap && swapon /dev/partition, then edit /etc/fstab and change the partition for Linux swap to the one you made.
[09:43] <the_hamme1> fricken pc hates me i think
[09:43] <balsat_> normally to get text fromm irc spy in dcc you us ctrl-v  but what is that in ubuntu
[09:43] <eniac_petrov> Guys, I have small GUI question - Can I change the splash screen, and from where? ( excuse me for my english)
[09:43] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: ./configure and make should not be done as root, make install is the only one that needs sudo.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: you shouldnt need sudo for ./configure and you skipped make
[09:43] <Ademan> is can you create debs from *.spec files?
[09:43] <arooni> userundefine: is there a gui tool for this or no
[09:44] <the_hamme1> im not on as root
[09:44] <userundefine> arooni, yes, gparted
[09:44] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: sudo ./configure should be ./configure
[09:44] <apeman2020> i cannot use the "make" function.. what package do i need to install?
[09:44] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$  ./configure
[09:44] <the_hamme1> bash: ./configure: Permission denied
[09:45] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Then you need to unpack the sources again somewhere in your home dir. Then do: ./configure, make and sudo make install
[09:45] <userundefine> eniac_petrov, System > Administration > Login Window
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[09:45] <the_hamme1> ok how do i move it
[09:46] <arooni> userundefine: i dont find that with sudo apt-get install
[09:46] <arooni> userundefine: the partiiton the swap is currently on is running the os
[09:46] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: if you move it you'll have to mess with permissions, it'd just be easier to unpack
[09:46] <gnomefreak> arooni: go to the menu click on systems than admin than login window
[09:47] <arooni> userundefine: ok im there
[09:47] <arooni> userundefine: what should i do here... i dont see any partition stuff
[09:47] <userundefine> arooni, you're...where?
[09:47] <the_hamme1> ok its all ready to go already just i dunno how to make it go
[09:47] <arooni> userundefine: login window preferences
[09:48] <userundefine> That's what gnomefreak said, not me
[09:48] <arooni> oops
[09:48] <arooni> well maybe he wasnt talking to me
[09:48] <J-_> is there a way to have the terminal go right on the desktop?
[09:48] <the_hamme1> my mouse every once in a while jumps all over the darn screen to
[09:48] <arooni> userundefine: so how can i do this properly?
[09:49] <arooni> userundefine: im realy worrid about messing it up and losing data
[09:49] <the_hamme1> yes right click on term in the menu and send to desktop
[09:49] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: You using an optical mouse?
[09:49] <the_hamme1> ya
[09:49] <userundefine> arooni, well, where is your swap right now?
[09:49] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Clean the mouse or the mousepad. That happens to me now and then
[09:49] <arooni> userundefine: i have two partitions, one has everything (os/files/swap etc...) and the other has nothing (thats where i want to put the swap)
[09:50] <the_hamme1> why do i keep getting erros everytime i try to do something with my eggdrop says permission denied
[09:51] <the_hamme1> its pissen me off
[09:51] <arooni> userundefine: i have one which is /usr/sda (all files) and the otehr /usr/sbd
[09:51] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: That's a permissions problem
[09:51] <userundefine> arooni, OK.  you only need about a gig for swap at most, fyi.
[09:51] <the_hamme1> as user tho
[09:51] <the_hamme1> not root
[09:51] <arooni> userundefine: right now its 512 mb
[09:51] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Did you change the permissions of the tarball after you moved it?
[09:51] <arooni> userundefine: and im doing vmware to ubuntu, should it be larger
[09:52] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: because you used sudo when you should not have
[09:52] <userundefine> arooni, that's probably enough.  what did it say when you tried to install gparted?
[09:52] <userundefine> arooni, depends.  how much RAM do you have?
[09:52] <arooni> userundefine: 1 gig
[09:52] <the_hamme1> well thats cuz it said im denied persion
[09:52] <arooni> userundefine: but on linux i only have 580 mb
[09:52] <the_hamme1> man ubuntu is a pain
[09:52] <userundefine> arooni, linux isn't recognizing all your RAM?  that's odd.
[09:52] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Ubuntu is just doing what you told it to do
[09:53] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: re-compile it and use ./configure make than sudo make install  and please any more issues with this take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <the_hamme1> my eggy wont work
[09:53] <arooni>  userundefine:   gparted: Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a but it is not going to be installed
[09:53] <htv8> anyone here?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> htv8: no
[09:53] <arooni> userundefine: no... i am running windows and then ubuntu linux as a vm machine
[09:53] <arooni> userundefine: and i only gave it 580mb
[09:54] <userundefine> arooni, oh, I see.
[09:54] <htv8> i can't burn a cd of the ubuntu image :(
[09:54] <userundefine> arooni, weird, it should install it with the dependency.  did you use sudo apt-get install?
[09:55] <thundr> I'm having problems getting my sound to work, can anyone help?
[09:55] <snoops> htv8 what're you using to burn it?
[09:55] <userundefine> !ask
[09:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:55] <arooni> userundefine: yes but then it said i might want to try with 'sudo apt-get -f' so i tried that... it hink it remembers the dependencies, its downloading stuff now
[09:55] <htv8> Nero
[09:55] <htv8> Burning Rom
[09:55] <userundefine> arooni, OK.  after that finishes, type gparted in the terminal and let the program startup.
[09:55] <htv8> but I get an error something like this: calibration area full
[09:55] <arooni> userundefine: ok now now its working... how do i run it once installed
[09:55] <snoops> how are you burning it? As a data cd or as a image cd?
[09:56] <htv8> something like that
[09:56] <htv8> as an image cd
[09:56] <arooni> gparted
[09:56] <arooni> heh
[09:56] <snoops> okay.. and what error do you get htv8?
[09:56] <htv8> calibration area full
[09:56] <kestas> hi, I can't log onto MSN with GAIM or AMSN
[09:57] <kestas> it just freezes or times out
[09:57] <kestas> is anyone here logged onto MSN?
[09:57] <snoops> sounds like a nice problem with your cd burner.. tried restarting?
[09:57] <Warbo> How do I get the icons in a panel to be as big as the panel? I have a 96 pixel high panel, but the icons just sit in the middle of loads of empty space
[09:57] <htv8> no
[09:57] <arooni> userundefine: should i create a msdos disklabel?
[09:58] <htv8> the cd burner is old however ...
[09:58] <arooni> userundefine: as theres no partition currently runnning on it
[09:58] <htv8> and i fucked up a cd already :P
[09:58] <Warbo> !language
[09:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:58] <thundr> Ubuntu isn't recognizing my sound card.  It's some integraded thing.  I don't know what do to first.
[09:58] <userundefine> arooni, no.  is gparted started?
[09:58] <arooni> userundefine: yes
[09:58] <wtj> !hi
[09:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:59] <wtj> interesting
[09:59] <snoops> htv8 heh cdrs these days are 5cents a pop.. not a big deal
[09:59] <arooni> userundefine: right now that partition is unallocated
[09:59] <arooni> userundefine: the one i want to put my swap
[09:59] <arooni> on
[09:59] <ardchoille> Warbo: About the icon size question.. I used to run ##gnome and the devs I talked to say it's not possible to change the icon size without some kind of 3rd party app
[09:59] <userundefine> arooni, OK.  highlight the empty partition, right-click and click Format To... linux-swap
[09:59] <htv8> hmm I don't know what to do know
[09:59] <htv8> now....
[09:59] <vincenz> Anyone a screen expert?
[10:00] <ardchoille> vincenz: Not an *expert* but I use screen daily. Maybe I can help
[10:00] <Warbo> ardchoille: Damn it. I use a 128x128 icon theme as well. I was trying to make a faster alternative to gdesklets' launcher panel
[10:00] <snoops> htv8 try restarting.. still no go then maybe new cd burner.. if you have multiple pcs over a network you could try a network install
[10:00] <userundefine> Warbo, I thought E16 had a launcher
[10:01] <vincenz> Well I heard of this nifty setup where a guy would have alternate CTRL+x stuff so that he had one "root" screen session, which connected to other boxes where he had screen running as well.  When I say alternate CTRL I mean instead of CTRL+a he used CTRL+c
[10:01] <Warbo> userundefine: Not that I know of
[10:01] <ardchoille> Warbo: You might ask in ##gnome and see if anyone knows something I don't
[10:01] <snoops> if you have a 1GB or more flash stick I guess you could put it on that, depending if your mobo supports usb booting
[10:01] <arooni> userundefine: ok its formatted as swap.. now how do i move the swap from the existing partition to the new one (i beleiveve the existing partition is on the same hard drive but under a different parititon)
[10:02] <ardchoille> vincenz: Hmm.. that's beyond my knowledge
[10:02] <htv8> hmm thank you for the info btw
[10:02] <Chabbrik> Hello, I have run into a problem. I install USB printer, but wizard specifies URI wrong. It tries to connect to /dev/usb/lp0, while the real address is /dev/lp0. Symlinking didn't help. What can I do about it?
[10:02] <arooni> userundefine: or can i leave them both as swap
[10:02] <arooni> userundefine: and linux will use both of them?
[10:02] <userundefine> arooni, no.  look in /etc/fstab and see if under 'type' it says 'swap' anywhere
[10:02] <arooni> userundefine: id like them both to be swap if thats possible (and linux use them both)
[10:03] <apeman2020> i would like to install MYSQL, could someone point me to the appropriate apt-get / wget command?
[10:03] <arooni> userundefine: i dont have a fstab sub directory under etc
[10:03] <ardchoille> !info mysql
[10:03] <ubotu> Package mysql does not exist in dapper
[10:03] <htv8> i've got a cleaning cd
[10:03] <htv8> maybe that would help?
[10:03] <snoops> anyone know if a file browser which lets me view the contents (with thumbnails etc) from multiple directories in the one window?
[10:03] <userundefine> arooni, it's a file, not a dir.  type "cat /etc/fstab" into terminal without quotes
[10:03] <htv8> a cd with hairs on it
[10:04] <arooni> userundefine: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:04] <snoops> sure, no harm trying htv8.. usually there's a liquid you ened to apply to the cleaning cd beforehand
[10:04] <apeman2020> !info msyql
[10:04] <ubotu> Package msyql does not exist in dapper
[10:04] <gatekeeper> apeman2020, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server
[10:05] <apeman2020> thanks!
[10:05] <ardchoille> !lamp
[10:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:05] <vigilante_> Anyone else using SMARTpm here? (I am getting file not found when I try to do an upgrade all)
[10:06] <userundefine> arooni, yes, I'm not sure *where* /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap_1 is actually located on disk, I've never installed without a swap partition.  Either way, you can replace /dev/* part with the partition you just created in gparted (make sure it's the right one), and next time you boot up swap will be turned on on that partition.
[10:06] <ardchoille> !mysql > apeman2020
[10:06] <[Jonne] > hi, i'm looking for some kind of calendar (preferably a way to change the dialog you get when you click the date, so you can add tasks and events)
[10:06] <[Jonne] > any solutions for that?
[10:06] <ardchoille> apeman2020: that might help put you on the right track
[10:06] <thundr> [Jonne] , something like evolution?  Or not that big?
[10:07] <[Jonne] > I'd prefer to use Thunderbird for managing e-mail, so using evolution for calendar stuff isn't something i want to do
[10:07] <[Jonne] > is there a small app that does the same?
[10:08] <rexykik> google calander :)
[10:08] <userundefine> [Jonne] , use the calendar extension for thunderbird.  it's beta, but quite usable.
[10:08] <[Jonne] > does it integrate with that gnome calendar?
[10:08] <userundefine> [Jonne] , no
[10:08] <[Jonne] > but evolution does?
[10:08] <userundefine> [Jonne] , if you mean integrate thunderbird extension with gnome calendar, no.  I don't know about google calendar
[10:09] <arooni> userundefine: so now i have /dev/sbd1 none            swap    sw              0       0 ... is that right?
[10:09] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[10:09] <userundefine> arooni, right
[10:09] <Madpilot> [Jonne] , AFAIK only the Evo calendar ingetgrates with Gnome's dropdown calendar - which is too bad
[10:09] <arooni> userundefine: ok cool i will restart now, hopefully it wont be so slow nemore
[10:10] <arooni> userundefine: how can i check that linux is using that partition for swap like i think it will be
[10:11] <userundefine> arooni, it's in fstab, and when ubuntu boots it reads the devices from that file.  it'll be using it because you put it in there.
[10:11] <arooni> ok cool
[10:11] <arooni> ill be back in a few
[10:11] <arooni> userundefine: thanks for helping your local noob
[10:12] <dyn-afk> :P
[10:12] <userundefine> arooni, we're all noobs. ;)  and myself, one who needs sleep.
[10:13] <Krpano> does anyone here have their side mouse buttons working ?
[10:13] <snoops> Krpano yes..
[10:14] <Krpano> how did you do it ?
[10:14] <deeghetal> how do i install unrar. i've followed the instructions in the ubuntu documentation and it doesn't work./
[10:14] <Krpano> once some user here gave a 2 line tip to insert at the xorg.conf , that just did the trick
[10:14] <deeghetal> brian@blacklab:~$ sudo apt-get install rar
[10:14] <deeghetal> Reading package lists... Done
[10:14] <deeghetal> Building dependency tree... 0%
[10:14] <deeghetal> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:14] <deeghetal> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:14] <deeghetal> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:15] <Krpano> but i cant remember
[10:15] <deeghetal> is only available from another source
[10:15] <deeghetal> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[10:15] <ardchoille> !paste
[10:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:15] <dnel> unrar?
[10:15] <deeghetal> don't worry if this problem is solved i will never have to use Linux again.
[10:16] <deeghetal> unrar will not install. i've tried. i got the text above when i did so.
[10:16] <dnel> deeghetal: the package is called unrar, you put "rar" in that command
[10:17] <deeghetal> "package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."
[10:17] <Madpilot> deeghetal, unrar is in Multiverse. You need to enable that repository
[10:17] <dnel> deeghetal: as Madpilot said...
[10:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell deeghetal about multiverse
[10:18] <deeghetal> i know how to do it one sec
[10:19] <nikin> !multiverse
[10:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:20] <firstknight> any video conference software beside ekiga?
[10:20] <dxdemetriou> What program can I use to write cd/dvd from command line and to not be multisession?
[10:21] <deeghetal> after enabling multiverse i get the same error
[10:22] <sampi> re
[10:22] <sampi> who can help me with simple user management?
[10:22] <deeghetal> anyone know where i can download the unrar source and manually install it
[10:22] <nikin> hy sampi
[10:22] <sampi> hi nikin
[10:22] <sampi> i want to add some users to a user group
[10:23] <apeman2020> how can i see if MYSQL and PHP are working on my box?
[10:23] <meti> ok
[10:23] <sampi> what is the corresponding command?
[10:24] <firstknight> deeghetal, http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm
[10:24] <sampi> nikin, i'm not registered, so no pm, but yes, i am =D
[10:24] <fivre> quick estimate anyone: how long will it take to compile 10MB worth of source on a 266MHz PII?
[10:24] <htv8> doesn't work :S
[10:25] <htv8> the CD burning process
[10:25] <htv8> of the image :(
[10:25] <sampi> so, how can i add users to a group?
[10:25] <sampi> what is the command for it?
[10:25] <fivre> adduser
[10:25] <pedda> I've just installed a Ubuntu LAMP (server), how do I setup phpmyadmin to work?
[10:25] <vigilante_> Cany someone direct me to help with setting up auto-identify in Konversation for freenode?
[10:25] <pedda> Is there a howto?
[10:26] <sampi> nikin: do you have msn, if yes, tell me your address in pm
[10:26] <deeghetal> ok i've downloaded unrar source now how do i compile and install it. ;)
[10:27] <firstknight> try this: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[10:27] <firstknight> after unpacking it of course
[10:27] <fivre> and watch the stream of happy compiler spam!
[10:28] <lillpelle> hopefully it is not packed with rar :)
[10:28] <deeghetal> there is no ./configure
[10:28] <lillpelle> deeghetal: usually there is a file README or INSTALL with instructions
[10:28] <fivre> are you in the directory you untarred it to?
[10:28] <deeghetal> yes
[10:28] <htv8> can I install ubuntu without a CD? is that possible? for example via shared USB?
[10:29] <htv8> (network)?
[10:29] <fivre> yes
[10:29] <lillpelle> deeghetal: still it is very strange that it did not work to install it from the repository... Before compiling yourself I'd recommend to download the deb package for unrar and install it manually.
[10:29] <ruxpin> what's the best place to put scripts that should run after logging in via xdm?
[10:29] <fivre> I don't know particularly how
[10:29] <htv8> how to do that?
[10:30] <deeghetal> lillpelle i don't know how to do that. i tried getting it from the repository... enabled everything on the list... and it says that the file was referenced by other packages that were not found.
[10:30] <sampi> i have to go
[10:30] <sampi> figured it out myself
[10:31] <sampi> thanks anyway
[10:31] <sampi> bye
[10:31] <lillpelle> deeghetal: what was that other package?
[10:31] <deeghetal> i don't know here's what it says: "Package Unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[10:32] <sehute> htv8: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[10:32] <brotakul> hi. i have both ubuntu and windows xp installed on my hdd, in separate partitions. i installed QEMU and i would like to run my windows xp under QEMU without reinstalling it. how do i do it?
[10:33] <deeghetal> at this point i am willing to do anything to get unrar to install i'm at the last step of something i've been trying to do for almost a month.
[10:33] <lillpelle> deeghetal: oh, that should not be hard. are you running dapper?
[10:33] <deeghetal> yes on an x86_64 which apparently complicates everything.
[10:33] <deeghetal> i'm having trouble finding packages made for 64 bit
[10:34] <lillpelle> aha, that may be the problem then
[10:34] <Krpano> yay, it works.....:P
[10:34] <deeghetal> i have no doubt that it is.
[10:34] <deeghetal> i have a file that i need to unrar and burn to dvd.
[10:36] <firstknight> deeghetal, I am compiling unrar source now
[10:36] <lillpelle> deeghetal: sorry, but I can't help. Have to run to a train now aswell. Hope someone else can find a solution
[10:36] <firstknight> deeghetal, You have to "mv makefile.unix Makefile" then "make"
[10:36] <deeghetal> ok
[10:37] <deeghetal> hmm "makefile.unix no such file or directory"
[10:37] <firstknight> deeghetal, yeah, it works, the binary is in that directory, just "./unrar"
[10:37] <firstknight> deeghetal, copy that to /usr/bin so you can unrar everywhere
[10:38] <kameronk> is there a way to start ubuntu without a window manager? (such as xfce, gnome, or kde)?
[10:39] <sehute> kameron: do you wish to remove the windowmanager as well? sudo aptitude remove gdm xdm kdm
[10:39] <rexykik> you can select "console login" at your login manager
[10:39] <kameronk> thank you rexykik
[10:39] <deeghetal> firstknight: copy what?
[10:39] <deeghetal> i can't compile anything
[10:39] <kameronk> no sehute, i just wanted terminal only, but sehute answered my question
[10:40] <firstknight> deeghetal, what's wrong?
[10:40] <firstknight> deeghetal, copy the binary "unrar"
[10:40] <firstknight> deeghetal, or you can run from that directory
[10:40] <sehute> kameronk: removing gdm xdm and kdm will give you terminal only at bootup
[10:40] <deeghetal> there is no unrar binary in this folder
[10:40] <Krpano> what is the best way to browse ext2 partitions from windows ?
[10:41] <firstknight> deeghetal, have you compile it?
[10:41] <sehute> Krpano: ext2fsd.sf.net
[10:41] <deeghetal> no, i can't compile it. the command you told me to run did not work
[10:41] <Krpano> sehute, thx
[10:41] <firstknight> deeghetal, which one?
[10:41] <sehute> Krpano: yw
[10:41] <deeghetal> firstknight: here's what happened... "sudo mv makefile.unix Makefile" ... "makefile.unix: no such file or directory"
[10:41] <kameronk> no sehute, i still want to use it kde/gnome/xfce on a day to day basis, but i wanted just the terminal just to see if i could survive and to hone my terminal skills
[10:42] <emilio> que hay compaeros que tal estais yo bien
[10:42] <ardchoille> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:42] <sehute> kameronk: login via gdm with safe mode or press ctrl+alt+f1. Glad you got your question answered anyways :)
[10:42] <phanter> sehute: this tool works fine, but I do _think_ that it screwed my ext3 filesystem once (basicly the same as ext2). So do not try to use it often, just in case of emergency
[10:42] <firstknight> deeghetal,  have you been inside the directory?
[10:42] <deeghetal> yes i am in /home/unrar
[10:43] <sehute> phanter: I've discovered that it works fine if it's installed as a service, but stops working if it's installed as a program. Otherwise, it's worked great for me. Thanks for the warning, though
[10:43] <emilio> Yo me llamo luis garcia Melano
[10:43] <firstknight> deeghetal, try to "ls makefile.*"
[10:43] <firstknight> deeghetal, what do you get?
[10:44] <kameronk> sehute, how do i do it in KDM? that's what i have installed, if it's easier, i don't mind installing GDM
[10:44] <deeghetal> firstknight: makefile.bcc, makefile.cygmin, makefile.dmc, makefile.msc
[10:44] <firstknight> deeghetal, you unpack it in /home directory?
[10:44] <deeghetal> firstknight: yes
[10:45] <sehute> kameronk: I'm not sure how you do it in Kdm. I think Gdm is wonderful compared to Kdm, though, and it's painless to change between them. :)
[10:45] <firstknight> deeghetal, next time don't unpack there.... you got it from this right: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.7.tar.gz?
[10:45] <kameronk> sehute, how do i change? (i'm sorry, its not everyday that i change my login manager ;) )
[10:45] <pedda> When logging on to my MySQL database for the first time, what's the default password?
[10:45] <sehute> kameronk: sudo aptitude install gdm, select gdm when asked, restart x (ctrl+alt+backspace, for instance)
[10:45] <kameronk> thank you.
[10:46] <sehute> kameronk: yw :)
[10:46] <deeghetal> firstknight: yes. i got the 64-bit version
[10:46] <firstknight> deeghetal, try to download it again..... I knew you have 64 bit version, that's why you have to install from source, I got mine working
[10:46] <firstknight> deeghetal, wget http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.7.tar.gz
[10:47] <deeghetal> where should i extract it to
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, /tmp directory
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, cd /tmp; wget http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.7.tar.gz
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, tar -zxvf unrar*.tar.gz; cd unrar/
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, mv makefile.unix Makefile; make
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, no need to sudo
[10:48] <J-_> where can i get applets for gdesklets?
[10:48] <deeghetal> firstknight: "bash: make: command not found
[10:48] <sehute> J-_: apt-cache search applets | grep -i gdesklets
[10:48] <deeghetal> "makefile.unix: no such file or directory:
[10:49] <sehute> J-_: (install gdesklets-data)
[10:49] <firstknight> deeghetal,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:49] <deeghetal> ok
[10:49] <J-_> okay, thanks. I have downloaded gdesklets-data
[10:50] <alleyoopster> good morning (well it is here)
[10:50] <deeghetal> firstknight: now it is working. strange... i would have thought ubuntu came with make
[10:51] <firstknight> deeghetal, you can compile them with success now?
[10:51] <firstknight> deeghetal, is there unrar binary in the directory?
[10:51] <pedda> What's the packacge name of vsftpd, for ubuntu?
[10:51] <deeghetal> firstknight: yes
[10:51] <sehute> deeghetal: why should people who only need a basic system have make included, especially when it's so easy to install?
[10:51] <firstknight> deeghetal, good, don't forget to copy the binary to /usr/bin so you can unrar everywhere
[10:52] <FramedRelay> ola!
[10:52] <alleyoopster> After some updates and a reboot I have lost my gnome logon screen. In its place I have XDMCP logon remote and I cannot find a way to get round it. I did not install XDMCP. I can ctrl-alt-f1 OK. How do I get round this? thanks
[10:53] <deeghetal> firstknight: what's the terminal command to copy? i'm really new :)
[10:53] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo aptitude install gdm; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:53] <firstknight> deeghetal, cp unrar /usr/bin
[10:53] <Zyfo> Where *should* I install programs if I do it manually? If've got a tar.gz file, where should I go in order for it to be installed like "any other program"
[10:54] <sehute> Zyfo: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[10:54] <sehute> Zyfo: that will install it where the author thinks it's right :)
[10:54] <sehute> Zyfo: otherwise /usr/local or your homedir are two possibilities
[10:54] <ardchoille> Zyfo: Have you checked to see if that app is in the repos before you do all the work of compiling?
[10:54] <Zyfo> sehute: I'm installing easyubuntu and last time I did it it got into my home dir for some reason
[10:55] <Flannel> Zyfo: depends on who you want to install it for
[10:55] <chrom> is there anyone willing to answer a simple question? I'd like to have the default xfce settings in ubuntu. How do I get rid of the xubuntu settings?
[10:55] <sehute> Zyfo: there's also a way to wrap up some tgzs into debs, and then install them
[10:55] <Zyfo> Flannel: all/me, same thing :p
[10:55] <alleyoopster> sehute: "gdm is already the newest version " is returned
[10:55] <Zyfo> Where would you install Easyubuntu (if you would use it)?
[10:56] <sehute> alleyoopster: how about: sudo aptitude reinstall gdm; /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:56] <deeghetal> firstknight: awesome thanks! i think it's working
[10:56] <firstknight> deeghetal, okay :)
[10:56] <sehute> Zyfo: last time I used Easyubuntu, I extracted it to my homedir, used it, and removed it from my homedir
[10:57] <alleyoopster> sehute: Nope, it reinstalled ok and restarted X, but the same screen is there
[10:57] <Zyfo> sehute: ah, so it's free to remove?
[10:57] <Zyfo> sehute: I see, no problem then, thanks
[10:57] <sehute> Zyfo: yes, I think so. Easyubuntu is basically a script that helps you to install stuff
[10:57] <sehute> Zyfo: yep :)
[10:58] <sehute> alleyoopster: hm. Have you changed xorg.conf a lot?
[10:58] <alleyoopster> not really, it was a clean install yesterday
[10:58] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangeness
[10:58] <alleyoopster> it was running for 1 year before
[10:58] <sehute> alleyoopster: you could try reinstalling xorg as well...
[10:59] <alleyoopster> sehute: it is weird
[10:59] <sehute> alleyoopster: or removing xdm and kdm
[10:59] <sehute> alleyoopster: it sounds very weird indeed
[10:59] <kameronk> thank you sehute, i found another way to do it... i just pressed ctrl-alt-F1, and then i had a terminal
[10:59] <sehute> alleyoopster: when did this happen? Was there something that triggered it?
[11:00] <sehute> kameronk: <sehute> kameronk: login via gdm with safe mode or press ctrl+alt+f1. Glad you got your question answered anyways :)
[11:00] <sehute> kameronk: told you so far up there :)
[11:00] <sehute> kameronk: but yw
[11:00] <Zyfo> !aptitude
[11:00] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:00] <alleyoopster> sehute: well, the events are problem with permissions, could not rebuild them, so went to reinstall. install all good, massive update and I also installed codecs and other stuff from scripts, this maybe the key
[11:01] <kameronk> o oh, i'm sorry
[11:01] <sehute> kameronk: no stress, glad you found a solution
[11:01] <kameronk> i'm stupid and don't read...
[11:03] <sehute> alleyoopster: I didn't quite follow there, but if you've found the key, great
[11:03] <deeghetal> perfect it's password protected and i don't know the pass. :P
[11:03] <deeghetal> all that work for nothing
[11:04] <alleyoopster> sehute: just that I the problem occured following a new install - it was either auto updates or an install script to install some basic programs and codecs
[11:05] <wthww> how do i enable make?
[11:06] <firstknight> wthww, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:06] <wthww> ty
[11:08] <firstknight> deeghetal, you can use rar password cracker which unfortunately does not available in linux ( as long as I know )
[11:08] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:08] <sehute> alleyoopster: does that work?
[11:10] <alleyoopster> sehute: no, do you know what config file controls what x loads ?
[11:10] <alleyoopster> sehute: not xorg.conf
[11:11] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you type "startx", does it work?
[11:11] <alleyoopster> sehute: I have tried reconfiguring xserver
[11:11] <sehute> alleyoopster: you've only got the login-manager configuration, x configuration and the windowmanager configuration, afaik
[11:12] <sehute> alleyoopster: gdm.conf, xorg.conf and .fvwm2rc, for instance
[11:12] <alleyoopster> sehute: hang on, just did a gdm stop and startx and looking better, will try a restart
[11:12] <sehute> alleyoopster: sometimes, gdm must be restarted by /etc/init.d/gdm stop and /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:13] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangely enough
[11:13] <sehute> alleyoopster: you could also try ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:14] <gnoshi> Hi all - if I have made changes to my /boot/menu.lst and want to update my boot menu to include them, is the correct command grub-install /dev/hda?
[11:14] <sehute> gnoshi: if you change menu.lst, that's all you need
[11:14] <alleyoopster> sehute: did a number of x restarts with ctrl+alt+backspace and gdm restart and they just didnt do it, but gdm stop worked, but now after reboot I back there again.
[11:14] <gnoshi> sehute: thanks
[11:14] <sehute> gnoshi: yw
[11:14] <kaning> i have a problem with mysql, when i try to get into the console or connect to it. i get a "can't find mysql.sock" error. I've looked in /tmp/ and /etc directories and all the "default" paths but i can't find mysql socket, what am i doing wrong?
[11:15] <gnoshi> Part Magic baked my main linux part, so I had to reinstall a NEW linux to locate the OLD linux, now I want to boot back into it - it is all very exciting, and gpart is my god
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: back where? Did gdm start up? what do you see?
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: another solution might be to try installing xdm
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo aptitude remove gdm kdm; sudo aptitude install xdm
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start
[11:16] <gnoshi> bye
[11:16] <alleyoopster> sehute: yes gdm starts when I gdm stop, logon again on session 2 and startx, when I reboot I am back to the remote logon again
[11:16] <kaning> anyone use mysql here?
[11:16] <sehute> alleyoopster: perhaps you've installed another loginmanager in addition to gdm/kdm/xdm ?
[11:17] <Rondom> kaning: 'I use mysql
[11:17] <santos92> hola
[11:17] <ompaul> !es
[11:17] <kaning> thanks
[11:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:17] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you find no other solution, try making a backup of xorg.conf, purge xorg from your system, delete all xorg and gdm configuration, install xorg and gdm, restore xorg.conf, then restart gdm
[11:18] <kaning> have you ever got the mysql.sock error before
[11:18] <Rondom> kaning: ?????
[11:18] <longwave> kaning: what are you trying to do when you get the error?
[11:18] <Rondom> kaning: no :-(
[11:18] <alleyoopster> sehute: it is possible, but i looked at the script and there is no mention of another logon manager. http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/install.html
[11:18] <kaning> whenever i try starting mysql it cannot locate the mysql.sock
[11:19] <darth_gimp> Anyone know anything about a program called TetraDraw?
[11:19] <longwave> kaning: does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?
[11:19] <wheelswitch> any one know how to use ftp to get everything on my webspace ie | ftp> mget -R * /home/user/backup/
[11:19] <wheelswitch> is how im trying to do it
[11:19] <wheelswitch> but it isnt working
[11:19] <kaning> i looked and no it doesn't
[11:19] <sehute> alleyoopster: well, obviously something's not right, and the method I mentioned should fix it, even though it's like killing a fly with an encyclopedia
[11:19] <kaning> but it was working fine before
[11:19] <kaning> i don't know where it went
[11:20] <kaning> is there a way of replacing it
[11:20] <Rondom> kaning: where does mysql look for this file?
[11:20] <kaning> is there somewhere i can download it from
[11:20] <sehute> wheelswitch: how about scp -r /home/user/backup/ username@host:target_directory
[11:20] <dooglus> wheelswitch: can you 'scp' instead?
[11:20] <alleyoopster> sehute: whats the best way of purging the config for x?
[11:20] <kaning> as i understand it mysql creates it when it starts
[11:21] <dooglus> wheelswitch: be careful with sehute's command - that will overwrite your website with your backup
[11:21] <sehute> dooglus: thanks for the warning
[11:21] <kaning> "/var/run/mysqld"
[11:21] <sehute> wheelswitch: if you give it a sensible target_directory, it will _not_ overwrite anything
[11:21] <longwave> wheelswitch: if you have to use standard ftp, the "ftp" program doesn't have a recursive copy command, but the "lftp" package does if you use the "mirror" command
[11:21] <Rondom> kaning: btw mysqld.sock
[11:21] <pppoe_dude> hi... a bit OT, but anyone know if IP's are logged when posting to USENET?
[11:22] <Rondom> kaning: try stopping mysql, deleting the file and restartign
[11:22] <dooglus> wheelswitch: he is wanting to download from his website, not upload to it
[11:22] <kaning> the problem here is that the file doesn't even exist to delete it
[11:22] <sehute> wheelswitch: do you wish to upload or download from your webpage?
[11:22] <wheelswitch> download
[11:22] <kaning> it's just not there. Which i find very wierd
[11:23] <Rondom> go ro /var/run/mysqld
[11:23] <sehute> wheelswitch: scp -r username@host:directory local_directory
[11:23] <Rondom> ro=to
[11:23] <kaning> aha
[11:23] <Rondom> and do a touch mysqld.sock
[11:23] <Zyfo> http://rafb.net/paste/results/niByGe92.html <- What should I do to fix this? when I try to install the packages mentioned it just keeps saying that I've got unmet dependencies.
[11:23] <lecurel> anyone knows how to install postfix-tls?????
[11:23] <sehute> alleyoopster: aptitude purge xorg, I think
[11:23] <Rondom> kaning: after that set the permissions
[11:23] <longwave> Rondom: no, the mysqld.sock file is not a standard file, it's a special socket file that mysql creates when it starts
[11:23] <phanter> hmm, i am trying to install kqemu in dapper. i use the automated script,  but it fails in the final stge with the folowing command: cp: cannot stat `kqemu/kqemu.ko': No such file or directory
[11:23] <phanter> FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format
[11:23] <longwave> kaning: does the mysql user have write permissions on /var/run/mysqld?
[11:24] <Rondom> longwave: yes, but maybe the permissions are wrong
[11:24] <sehute> alleyoopster: you should be aware that this will also remove packages that depend on X
[11:24] <gnoshi> Hurrah! The old partition works, despite partition magic having deleted it!
[11:24] <kaning> i should think so let me check
[11:24] <kaning> but even with that i have run it with sudo
[11:24] <lecurel> is there someone expert in postfix?
[11:24] <kaning> and still got the same problem
[11:24] <Adam02> mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[11:24] <Adam02> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hdb1
[11:25] <dooglus> Adam02: be careful mounting things in /tmp; ubuntu likes to empty /tmp and everything mounted on it when it boots
[11:25] <sehute> Adam02: is umount /tmp/disk-conf-hdb1; mount /media/windows perhaps what you want to do?
[11:25] <Adam02> ju jestr zamonontowane
[11:26] <Zyfo> http://rafb.net/paste/results/niByGe92.html <- What can I do to fix this?
[11:26] <sehute> Adam02: je parle ne pas franc, if that was french
[11:26] <kaning> i'm looking at the directory permissions right now and it says file owner is mysql -  mysql server
[11:26] <alleyoopster> sehute: aptitude purge xserver-xorg
[11:26] <sehute> alleyoopster: that should be it yes. As I said, it's a crude method, but it should work :)
[11:27] <Adam02> jak zmieni upranienia ebym mg wej /tmp/disks-conf-hdb1
[11:27] <sehute> Adam02: polish?
[11:27] <Adam02> nie tylko z poziomu roota
[11:27] <Madpilot> !pl
[11:27] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:28] <kaning> any ideas anyone?
[11:28] <longwave> kaning: can you paste the exact error message in a pastebin for me?
[11:29] <alleyoopster> sehute: absolutely bizare - still the same problem
[11:29] <kaning> ok give me a minute
[11:29] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangeness
[11:29] <sehute> alleyoopster: and you reinstalled xorg-server after purging it, and then gdm as well?
[11:30] <alleyoopster> sehute: didnt do gdm, will try that, I am sure there must be a file controlling logon managers
[11:30] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you look in /etc/init.d - is there something there that looks like it doesn't belong?
[11:31] <[knap] > whats is the location of the configuration files of the shortcuts in the upper bar, those in ''Applications'' ''System'' menus
[11:31] <Azzco> does anyone happen to know where login manager files are located?
[11:31] <kameronk> what's a good vnc server for ubuntu? (i've run them on windows, i just haven't on linux)
[11:31] <sehute> alleyoopster: XDMCP or something?
[11:31] <sehute> alleyoopster: cd /etc/init.d; grep -i "xdmcp" *
[11:32] <zcat[1] > solved it.
[11:32] <zcat[1] > now I guess I should wiki it.
[11:32] <sehute> alleyoopster: did you try to purge gdm as well, then install it?
[11:34] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you purge both xorg and gdm, make sure no other login-manager is installed (xdm, kdm, something with xdmcp), manually delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and gdm.conf, then reinstall gdm and restore your xorg.conf, it should work
[11:34] <sehute> alleyoopster: if it doesn't work then - then there's something wrong with the world
[11:34] <basvg> can anyone help me setup my mic in dapper? I have my headset (with microphone) plugged in but can't get it to work (trying to record something with gnome-sound-recorder)
[11:34] <sehute> basvg: I've experienced trouble with that too, I'm very interested if you find the solution
[11:35] <samuel_> ubuntu-it
[11:35] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:35] <alleyoopster> sehute: well i already came to the conclusion that something is wrong with the world
[11:35] <basvg> sehute: I'll let you know if I find a fix.. I've fiddled with gnome-alsamixer to see if something was muted but that wasn't the case
[11:35] <sehute> samuel_: /j #ubuntu-it
[11:35] <samuel_> #kubuntu-it
[11:35] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangeness. I'm afraid you've reached the end of my knowledge here. :-/ Hope you find a solution.
[11:35] <samuel_> speak italien?
[11:36] <SimGuy> let's say I am disappointed by xscreensaver's small selection of hacks... am I going to have to build it myself if I want the rest of them?
[11:36] <sehute> basvg: tried uninstalling arts and installing esound as well?
[11:36] <alleyoopster> sehute: well thanks for your input, i do apprieciate it
[11:36] <sehute> alleyoopster: happy to almost help :P :D
[11:36] <basvg> sehute: I'm not in kubuntu... arts isn't running here :)
[11:36] <alleyoopster> sehute:and it is WORKING now
[11:36] <sehute> alleyoopster: great! :)
[11:36] <sehute> alleyoopster: what was the fix?
[11:37] <alleyoopster> sehute:purging gdm
[11:37] <sehute> alleyoopster: I knew it! ;)
[11:37] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:37] <sehute> basvg: does the alsa commandline recording utility work?
[11:37] <alleyoopster> sehute: thanks, not sure how i got into this state, very strange, but thanks again,
[11:37] <Remy> !bluetooth
[11:37] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:37] <basvg> sehute: errr, which utility is that
[11:38] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:38] <Nikoladze> can anyone help me, I'm having trouble setting permissions for a vfat partition in fstab
[11:38] <sehute> basvg: qarecord, for instance
[11:38] <sehute> alleyoopster: :-) *happy*
[11:38] <Nikoladze> it keeps mounting it with the owner and group as root even though I specified uid and gid both as 1000
[11:38] <samuel_> italien?
[11:38] <basvg> sehute: installing it...
[11:38] <samuel_> speak italien?
[11:38] <longwave> !italian
[11:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about italian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:38] <longwave> !it
[11:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <Madpilot> !it
[11:39] <alleyoopster>  :)
[11:39] <[knap] > whats is the location of the configuration files of the shortcuts in the upper bar? those in ''Applications'' ''System'' menus
[11:40] <sehute> [knap] : it varies from windowmanager to windowmanager - and they all have their own tool to edit menues
[11:40] <orbin> [knap] : what are you planning on doing?
[11:40] <[knap] > ok in this case is gnome with metacity
[11:41] <sehute> [knap] : the system-wide menu-file-defaults for fvwm is stored in /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
[11:41] <sehute> [knap] : there should be a menu-editor on your menu somewhere, I think?
[11:41] <sehute> [knap] : or do you need the exact filename(s)?
[11:42] <[knap] > i have alacarte
[11:42] <shinobi3> how do i check the chip set for my wireless card? i know it's atheros, but can i get more specific details? like which series
[11:42] <sehute> [knap] : alacarte should work
[11:42] <[knap] > ok
[11:42] <sehute> shinobi3: Is it pci? lspci
[11:42] <sehute> shinobi3: Is it usb? lsusb
[11:43] <sehute> shinobi3: Is it detected by the kernel? dmesg
[11:43] <shinobi3> sehute: internal built-in
[11:43] <sehute> shinobi3: internal hardware usually shows up with lspci
[11:43] <Zyfo> I get the following when installing Audacious: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oSv3wF64.html what should I do?
[11:43] <htv8> if I want to install ubuntu, what iso file do i have to download? http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:43] <sehute> shinobi3: you've also got the /proc directory
[11:43] <shinobi3> sehute: dmesg is like of long, don't know what i am looking at, but lspci shows atheros.
[11:44] <kaning> here's what the error looks like
[11:44] <kaning> http://pastebin.ca/108144
[11:44] <sehute> shinobi3: press alt+f2, type dmesg | gvim -
[11:44] <longwave> htv8: the "Desktop" cd for your computer (pc, mac or 64-bit pc)
[11:44] <basvg> sehute: right, qarecord works
[11:44] <htv8> if you download the desktop CD (so you can try ubuntu without installing), can you still install with the same .iso afterwards?
[11:44] <sehute> basvg: great
[11:44] <longwave> htv8: yes, you can :)
[11:44] <Madpilot> htv8, you can install right from the LiveCD session
[11:44] <sehute> basvg: then you know it works under alsa, at least
[11:44] <htv8> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:44] <sehute> basvg: do you have alsa-oss installed? that might help too
[11:44] <htv8> and is this in Dutch? the software?
[11:44] <htv8> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:44] <longwave> htv8: it will have a language selection screen when you first start up
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> I have a Compaq Presario Laptop, and to the best of my knowledge, it has an ATI Rage Mobility 128 video card with 8 megs of VRAM. How do I find out if Ubuntu works with my video card?
[11:45] <htv8> cool thank you
[11:45] <basvg> sehute: sehute jeah, I have that installed
[11:45] <sehute> DJAdmiral: google
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> sehute: thank you, i'll try that now
[11:46] <sehute> DJAdmiral: yw (I think it works with Ubuntu, as far as I can recall)
[11:46] <GaiaX11> Which is the program for formatting diskettes in ubuntu?
[11:46] <shinobi3> sehute: i am currently running windows, if i see atheros in dmesg, what's my next step?
[11:46] <sehute> basvg: sounds like the perprerator, yes
[11:46] <htv8> so I burn a CD, reboot my computer with the CD and then I can decide to make a new partition for ubuntu?
[11:46] <basvg> sehute: well, skype also doesn't work (i.e., the other party can't hear me)
[11:47] <orbin> DJAdmiral: lol, for something more specific, try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport .. you should be fine though.  i'm runnign a presario now
[11:47] <sehute> shinobi3: if you see atheros in dmesg or lspci, you should also see the name of the chipset
[11:47] <longwave> htv8: yes, but it is recommended you back up your windows (or whatever) partition first
[11:47] <sehute> basvg: I've experienced that too. It sucks :)
[11:47] <DJAdmiral> orbin: i'm checking out that link now
[11:47] <peabody> hmmm, I got compiz working but I've got a problem.
[11:47] <shinobi3> sehute: ok thx
[11:47] <peabody> I've followed these directions
[11:47] <Madpilot> htv8, when you're running the liveCD, there's an "Install" icon on the desktop; that will do the install - including partitioning- for you
[11:47] <peabody> http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[11:47] <frogzoo> htv8: what file system is your doze on - ntfs or fat32?
[11:48] <sehute> shinobi3: yw :)
[11:48] <peabody> And it works, but what's weird is that I have to run the startcompiz script several times for compiz to start
[11:48] <stefg> peabody: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:48] <peabody> stefg: thanks, sorry
[11:48] <shinobi3> i tried to compile, gcc hello.c ; but did not compile.  do i need to link gcc with stdio.h library somewhere?  i just installed gcc.
[11:48] <sehute> peabody: try a different tutorial :)
[11:48] <GaiaX11> Hi, Which is the program for formatting diskettes in ubuntu?
[11:48] <sehute> peabody: (worked for me)
[11:48] <Flannel> !build-essential
[11:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:49] <Flannel> shinobi3: you need that
[11:49] <stefg> !build > shinobi3
[11:49] <htv8> NTFS file system
[11:49] <dibblego> is there an application that will extract a rar archive created by WinRAR on Windows?
[11:49] <longwave> kaning: what does "netstat -al | grep mysql" show? do you see the word LISTENING next to the socket filename?
[11:49] <Th3man> speaking of Compiz, does anyone know of a good howto for it as it relates to the Intel Video Cards?
[11:49] <sehute> GaiaX11: mkfs.ext3
[11:49] <darth_gimp> Can someone school me in the use of dosbox ??
[11:49] <ompaul> shinobi3, two things to make it worth your while install build essential ^^ and secondly the command is gcc foo.c -o foo then foo is the executable
[11:49] <sehute> darth_gimp: I can
[11:49] <sehute> darth_gimp: sudo aptitude install dosbox
[11:49] <darth_gimp> sehute that would be awsome
[11:49] <spring> anyone use buildix here?
[11:49] <gatekeeper> dibblego, yes unrar I think it's called
[11:50] <stefg> Th3man: you're asking for #ubuntu-xgl and a /lot/ of trouble
[11:50] <darth_gimp> I just installed it through synaptic
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> darth_gimp: do you want to know how to use it or install it?
[11:50] <frogzoo> htv8: there's a serious bug in gparted that if you use it to resize your ntfs partition, you could lose all your data - definately backup first, & maybe use a different utility to resize the partition - eg. partition magic etc.
[11:50] <sehute> darth_gimp: press alt+f2 type gnome-terminal
[11:50] <longwave> dibblego: either the "rar" or "unrar" packages will help
[11:50] <darth_gimp> DJAdmiral, use it
[11:50] <dibblego> gatekeeper, ok thanks
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> darth_gimp: i can help you out too.
[11:50] <sehute> darth_gimp: cd dosdir (I assume dosdir is the name of your directory with dos-stuff)
[11:50] <GaiaX11> sehute: Is there a gui for that. Because apart from formatting I'd like to prepare the disk to write on it.
[11:50] <spring> after i boot with buiildix disk, enter username and password, i am left in console, can't get into GUI, HELP!
[11:50] <gatekeeper> dibblego, have you got synaptic installed?
[11:50] <htv8> what :|
[11:50] <htv8> that's a lot of work :|
[11:50] <sehute> darth_gimp: dosbox -c "mount c ." -c "c:"
[11:51] <dibblego> gatekeeper, yes
[11:51] <darth_gimp> ok maybe one of you can pull me into a PM so I can follow...
[11:51] <shinobi3> stefg: thx
[11:51] <sehute> darth_gimp: then type the first name of the exe/com/bat you're about to start. For instance "dune" if the filename is "dune.exe"
[11:51] <gatekeeper> dibblego, just do a search for it then
[11:51] <wthww> um... does ubuntu run well on cyrix processors?
[11:51] <dibblego> gatekeeper, I am thanks
[11:51] <Flannel> spring: this is #ubuntu, buildix is... apparently an entirely dfferent operating system.
[11:51] <markj> quick question
[11:51] <gatekeeper> dibblego, yw :-)
[11:52] <Nikoladze> hey all, for some reason my vfat partition is mounting with the wrong permissions, can anyone help?
[11:52] <ripdisk> how does one go about installing a compiler on 5.0
[11:52] <sehute> darth_gimp: alt+f9 exits, alt+f7 and alt+f8 toggles cpu-speed
[11:52] <spring> Flannel: i know just pushing my luck :)
[11:52] <sehute> darth_gimp: that's it
[11:52] <DJAdmiral> sehute, darth_gimp: don't you just love dosbox?
[11:52] <sehute> darth_gimp: use pgup to scroll up
[11:52] <sehute> DJAdmiral: It's amazing. I love it :)
[11:52] <markj> i've just installed ubunto 5.4 if i let it autoupdate will it give me the latest 6.06 version?
[11:52] <spring> supposed to be easy and dummy proof
[11:52] <darth_gimp> sehute
[11:52] <darth_gimp> ok hang on there..
[11:52] <commctrl> spring, apparently not, because you're here when you should be there
[11:52] <DJAdmiral> sehute: lovely. Have you tried the other DOS Emulator though?
[11:53] <ripdisk> how does one go about installing a compiler on 5.0??
[11:53] <frogzoo> markj: no - you need to ugprade, it's a different process
[11:53] <fm> hi I have two PCs, one Ubuntu and one Windows XP, I got  cross ethernet cable, how to set up a network between the two computers?
[11:53] <stefg> markj: define 'autoprobe', see !upgrade
[11:53] <darth_gimp> sehute the program I want to run is in a folder on my desktop at the moment...
[11:53] <Zyfo> I get the following when installing Audacious: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oSv3wF64.html what can I do?
[11:53] <Flannel> ripdisk: 5.0?
[11:53] <ripdisk> yes
[11:53] <spring> there is no buildix chat room
[11:53] <DJAdmiral> !network
[11:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:53] <sehute> GaiaX11: I'm not sure. Have you searched in apt?
[11:53] <Nikoladze> markj: I think you need to replace all instances of "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/source.list
[11:53] <Flannel> ripdisk: 5.0 what?
[11:53] <commctrl> fm, you probably want samba
[11:53] <Flannel> !tell markj about upgrade
[11:53] <sehute> darth_gimp: then replace where I wrote "dosdir" with "Desktop/foldername"
[11:53] <longwave> Zyfo: have you done "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" recently?
[11:53] <commctrl> spring, "there" meaning whatever support buildix has to offer... not ubuntu
[11:53] <ripdisk> Flannel: ubuntu 5.0
[11:53] <Flannel> markj: there's an easier way, all GUI, one click, etc.  Read that link
[11:53] <spring> k
[11:53] <Flannel> ripdisk: ubuntu doesn't have a 5.0, 5.04 and 5.10
[11:53] <Zyfo> longwave: apt-get upgrade/update lots of times, never dist- tho, will try now
[11:54] <stefg> Nikoladze: 5.04 is /Hoary/!... this means Hoeary to Breezy first, tehn Breezy to Dapper... it's easier to make a fresh install IMHO
[11:54] <ripdisk> Flannel: i'm not to sure what version it is, it's not my computer
[11:54] <commctrl> spring, hidden on their site, buildix forums (stupid "HERE" links) http://buildix.thoughtworks.com/phpBB2/
[11:54] <Zyfo> have to close xchat. brb.
[11:54] <Flannel> ripdisk: alright, go to... the about page.  it should say.
[11:54] <gatekeeper> Nikoladze, install update-manager and use that
[11:54] <ripdisk> Flannel: i'm in the computer through ssh :D
[11:54] <spring> commctrl: thx i will try my luck
[11:55] <Nikoladze> stefg: I upgraded from hoary to dapper with no troubles
[11:55] <Flannel> ripdisk: ah, in that case... uname -r
[11:55] <Flannel> Nikoladze: er, directly?
[11:55] <ce3c> err... ^ohoel ?
[11:55] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: not rec'd - leapfrogging upgrades is a bad plan
[11:55] <DJAdmiral> sehute: between running SCUMM based dos games on DOSBOX and SCUMM based games in SCUMMVM, what would you go for?
[11:55] <stefg> Nikoladze: then you were lucky... 'Official' point of view is: This will break your system
[11:55] <ripdisk> Flannel: it says 2.6.12-9-386
[11:55] <fm> commctrl: actually both computers are connected to a wifi router and I have a samba server that works pretty good, but I'm interested in ssh now, and it works over wifi too.. but it is too slow, so I want to make a direct connection. I tried to manually set IPs to my interfaces (192.168.0.60 and 192.168.0.61), but they dont ping each other
[11:55] <sehute> DJAdmiral: I would run Scumm based games in Scumm - it works smoother :)
[11:56] <Nikoladze> Flannel: replaced all hoary with dapper in sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:56] <Flannel> ripdisk: you have 5.10 (Breezy) then.  Now, what was your question? compilation?  you need build-essential
[11:56] <gatekeeper> stefg, you miss out a version ok? I was thinking of moving from dapper to edgy successor when it's eventually released
[11:56] <sehute> DJAdmiral: And I've tried dosemu a year or two ago. It worked okay, but not for old games and graphical applications
[11:56] <DJAdmiral> sehute: that's what I thought - what SCUMM games do you have at the mo?
[11:56] <darth_gimp> sehute, can dosbox run full screen?
[11:56] <Flannel> Nikoladze: er, wow.  Youre extremely lucky.
[11:56] <ce3c> i need help with my wireless!!!
[11:56] <sehute> darth_gimp: alt+enter
[11:56] <ripdisk> Flannel: yeah, how do i instlal a compiler, keep in mind i'm ssh'd in
[11:56] <DJAdmiral> darth_gimp: alt+enter
[11:56] <DJAdmiral> shoot too late lol
[11:56] <sehute> DJAdmiral: :)
[11:57] <darth_gimp> Excellent thanks guys
[11:57] <stefg> gatekeeper: thta's future stuf whic has to be worked out. There will be Howto's for sure when the time has come
[11:57] <DJAdmiral> np darth_gimp
[11:57] <dibblego> ripdisk, apt-get install build-essential
[11:57] <Nikoladze> Flannel: at least thats what I think I did, how can it go wrong?
[11:57] <Flannel> ripdisk: you'll need to install build-essential, 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:57] <sehute> DJAdmiral: I've got Beneath a Steel Sky and Queen of the Amazone Jungle...
[11:57] <Flannel> Nikoladze: er, it usually leaves you with an unbootable system
[11:57] <DJAdmiral> sehute: don't you mean flight of the amazon queen?
[11:57] <gatekeeper> stefg, ok :-)
[11:57] <Nikoladze> Flannel: how?
[11:57] <frogzoo> ripdisk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:57] <sehute> DJAdmiral: but I've heard rumors of a very nice torrent that includes all the games in one huge package... ;)
[11:57] <kaning> i'm going to remove and reinstall it again and see what happens
[11:57] <sehute> DJAdmiral: yeah, that one
[11:58] <DJAdmiral> sehute: torrent? i have to look now!! :P
[11:58] <DJAdmiral> sehute: i've got monkey island 2 though
[11:58] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: it's difficult enough planning an automated upgrade from the previous release, never mind all previous releases as well
[11:58] <sehute> DJAdmiral: monkey island 2 is a fantastic game, but I guess we're getting offtopic now ;)
[11:59] <muep> hi
[11:59] <Nikoladze> sehute: the ending is too weird for me
[11:59] <DJAdmiral> sehute: right then, im installing cedega atm, i need to get some more packages, eg. flex, bison
[11:59] <ripdisk> Flannel: it's asking me to put in a cd
[11:59] <sehute> Nikoladze: the ending is weird, it's true
[11:59] <Flannel> ripdisk: ah, ok.  You'll need to change your sources.list first
[11:59] <frogzoo> ok monkey island -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:59] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: the ending was weird :S
[11:59] <muep> does intel's GMA 950 have working open source drivers?
[11:59] <Flannel> ripdisk: sudo nano (or vi) /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:00] <zyfo> longwave: there?
[12:00] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:00] <ripdisk> nano ftw
[12:00] <zyfo> longwave: what was the point with "dist-upgrade"? all it did was fucking up lots of installed things and removed stuff :(
[12:00] <Flannel> ripdisk: then, you'll need to comment out the CD line, and add (more likely, uncomment) some other lines, ones with 'main restricted' at the end of them
[12:00] <sehute> DJAdmiral: well, I've never installed cedega
[12:00] <DanielSC> I'm new to ubuntu.. I tried to install it yesterday... should it start X after the installation? I only get a console and I dont know how to install other packages
[12:00] <Nikoladze> does anyone know anything about mounting vfat partitions? the permissions are killing me
[12:00] <stefg> !mount
[12:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:00] <Flannel> DanielSC: What ISO did you burn?
[12:00] <sehute> DanielSC: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <sehute> DanielSC: that is one possibility
[12:01] <ripdisk> Flannel: the deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 etc etc line?
[12:01] <DanielSC> ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[12:01] <DJAdmiral> has anybody here had any success with creating an LFS system from Dapper?
[12:01] <longwave> zyfo: dist-upgrade puts all your packages in sync with what you put in sources.list, that is why you have having problems installing other packages
[12:01] <Flannel> ripdisk: right, comment that with #
[12:01] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:01] <frogzoo> zyfo: dist-upgrade isn't as bulletproof as it could be - but did you apt-get update/upgrade before the dist-upgrade?
[12:01] <stefg> !easysource
[12:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:01] <stefg> ^^^^recommended ^^^^
[12:01] <zyfo> frogzoo: yes, not directly before, but pretty much
[12:01] <gatekeeper> DanielSC, did you accidently do a server install?
[12:01] <Flannel> DanielSC: that's why.  You downloaded a text only, if you want a graphical system, you'll need to login, then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[12:01] <DanielSC> @sehute: thanks that's what I needed ;)
[12:01] <frogzoo> zyfo: not 'directly' before.... o.O
[12:02] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:02] <DJAdmiral> DanielSC: the server one is not the one you want. you want either the desktop or alternate distributions
[12:02] <Flannel> ripdisk: then you'll uncomment some lines below that, or, hopefully they're there.  they look like URLs
[12:02] <ripdisk> flannel, i got it, it's downloading i think
[12:02] <sehute> DanielSC: if the gui doesn't start, type /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:02] <zyfo> longwave: it removed lots of stuff that worked perfect though The following packages will be REMOVED:  fglrx-control firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome-app-install libqt3-mt   skype sun-java5-plugin ubuntu-desktop wengophone xchat yelp The following NEW packages will be installed:   binfmt-support libmyspell3c2
[12:02] <ripdisk> flannel: yep, working
[12:02] <Flannel> sehute: he DOESNT have a GUI
[12:02] <sehute> Flannel: not at all?
[12:02] <DJAdmiral> sehute: he ended up installing the server distro
[12:02] <zyfo> frogzoo: like 5 mins earlier in another terminal
[12:02] <sehute> Flannel: not even a tiny bit?
[12:02] <sehute> ok
[12:02] <Flannel> DanielSC: no need to download a new ISO, just install the desktop
[12:02] <Nikoladze> stefg: if that !mount was intended for me, I already have it mounted, its just not mounting it with the correct permissions even though I specified umask=777
[12:02] <sehute> DanielSC: listen to Flannel :)
[12:02] <Flannel> DanielSC: with that previous command 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[12:03] <DanielSC> ok I will try to install the "ubuntu-desktop"
[12:03] <skwashd> hi all
[12:03] <sehute> Flannel: hey, that was what I told him
[12:03] <ripdisk> flannel: is this the only package i'll need to compile?
[12:03] <Flannel> ripdisk: good to hear.
[12:03] <sehute> or am I mixing people
[12:03] <zyfo> longwave: what do you suggest I do to get back the apps again (and preferly get other things working again too)? I'm not on xchat, it got removed, gaim works though. Can't install xchat now either.
[12:03] <Flannel> ripdisk: well, besides the dependencies of the individual things youre compiling, butyeah, that contains a compiler and standard headers, etc
[12:03] <gatekeeper> DanielSC, might be better getting the desktop iso and installing that
[12:04] <DanielSC> but I have another problem.. I'm using an atheros wireless card.. it seemed to be recognized during the installation but after the installation it's not recognized (the modules dont seem to be available) any way to fix this?
[12:04] <ripdisk> flannel: ok cool *installs ircd*
[12:04] <skwashd> i have an openfiler (centos based NAS appliance) server ... and [x] ubuntu clients running dapper
[12:04] <Flannel> ripdisk: err... ircd is in the repositories
[12:04] <skwashd> i have ldap working fine
[12:04] <DJAdmiral> just installed flex, i'll get back to reconfiguring Cedega. Hopefully it'lll install now
[12:04] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:04] <skwashd> and the nfs exports mount
[12:04] <ripdisk> it's a friend of mine's box, and he wanted to link to my network
[12:04] <kevor> Hi, how can i change my computer name?
[12:04] <sehute> Flannel: I already told him to install ubuntu-desktop, then you tell me he has no gui and tell him to install ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <stefg> Nikoladze: here's a sample from my fstab:   /dev/hdc1    /media/fat32   vfat  defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0 0 (on line paste should be fine in here, huh?)
[12:04] <Flannel> ripdisk: why compile, when you can install from repositories?
[12:04] <DanielSC> ok, If I cant make it load the modules for my wireless card I will have to downloaded the desktop iso anyway
[12:04] <ripdisk> Flannel: they might not have the IRCD i want
[12:05] <Flannel> ripdisk: can't hurt to check
[12:05] <Dravas> heh
[12:05] <DJAdmiral> kevor: www.ubuntuguide.com has some handy article on that
[12:05] <frogzoo> zyfo: ok, so 5minutes prior is decent - so in a perfect world, the ugprade ought to have worked properly
[12:05] <Dravas> Your running an IRCd ripdisk ?
[12:05] <fm> Hi, I have two computers, A (ubuntu) and B (Win XP) that connect to a router, A over ethernet and B over wifi. I have servers running on A that I can access over wifi from B without any problem. But it is too slow. So I bought a cross cable, and connected A to B through ethernet, setting eth1 on A to 192.168.0.60 and I gave B's ethernet interface 192.168.0.61 . I can ping A from B but it pings over wifi. I can't ping B from A. How do I have
[12:05] <fm> to set up my network please?
[12:05] <DJAdmiral> kevor: i mean www.ubuntuguide.org sorry
[12:05] <Dravas> which IRCd
[12:05] <ripdisk> Flannel: i've compiled this IRCD many times
[12:05] <ripdisk> Dravas: yeah, i have a network.. this will be the third box on it
[12:05] <sehute> fm: zeroconf might solve your problem
[12:05] <gatekeeper> !wireless
[12:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:05] <Dravas> which IRCd
[12:05] <Nikoladze> stefg: does that mean you want everybody except people in group gid 46 to be able to r/w/x?
[12:05] <skwashd> the perms are variations of "drwxrws--- 96 nobody multimedia 4096 2006-06-05 21:18 /audio/" .. but the ubuntu client who are members of the multimedia group denied access any ideas?
[12:05] <ripdisk> Dravas: i run charybdis
[12:05] <zyfo> frogzoo: :D anyway, what can I do now to "restore" it? I mean, not even ffox or xchat works...
[12:05] <Dravas> ahh
[12:05] <Dravas> Unreal IRCd is better
[12:05] <skwashd> been google'n but got stock
[12:06] <Dravas> >_>
[12:06] <ripdisk> no it's not lmao
[12:06] <skwashd> s/stock/stuck
[12:06] <Dravas> Yer
[12:06] <ripdisk> i started with unreal years ago
[12:06] <Dravas> I'm running Unreal now
[12:06] <ripdisk> and then got tired of the kiddies
[12:06] <stefg> Nikoladze: that's what it says
[12:06] <ripdisk> so i switched to a hybrid-based ircd
[12:06] <frogzoo> zyfo: you don't want to hear this - but best way forward is reinstall
[12:06] <ripdisk> and besides, dravas, I know the guy who made my IRCD
[12:06] <Dravas> ahh
[12:06] <gatekeeper> fm, connect everything to your router
[12:06] <Nikoladze> stefg: k, I was just checking I've got my octal notation right
[12:07] <zyfo> frogzoo: argh again :< what went wrong? I don't see why it is removing 20 apps and stuff just cause I tried to upgrade
[12:07] <Dravas> link me to where I can get info on this IRCd
[12:07] <ripdisk> www.charybdis.be
[12:07] <DJAdmiral> hey is there any way to convert my Windows Unreal Tournament into a Linux Unreal Tournament without having to bother about Cedega?
[12:07] <zyfo> frogzoo: what's the point in that cmd if you risk losing lots of stuff? or what did I do wrong?
[12:07] <fm> gatekeeper:I can't it has only one ethernet port
[12:07] <longwave> zyfo: as you were having problems installing packages before, something was messed up before you did that dist-upgrade
[12:07] <DJAdmiral> yay Cedega is finally compiling
[12:08] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral:  it has a proper linux client somewhere, dunno about ubuntu but I used to use gentoo and it let you install it from the windows cd
[12:08] <ZangieFF> w
[12:08] <longwave> zyfo: the dist-upgrade was intended to help but there must be something wrong in your sources.list or something...
[12:08] <DanielSC> ok, I'm downloading the desktop iso.. thanks... I downloaded the server iso by mistake 'cause the desktop iso seemed to be the Live version.. but it seems to be both. .the installation CD and a Live ubuntu CD ;) thanks guys
[12:08] <zyfo> longwave: I guess it did, I don't see what though, all I did was following what people told me/other people to write at forum, I never removed a package :|
[12:08] <J-_> anyong have a redorect problem with the starterbar for gdesklets? i've never been to the university of alberta's website, and when i click on the icon in that applet, it redirects me to their website. so when i go into the regular gnome menu, and click firefox... google pops up which it's suppose to.
[12:08] <gatekeeper> fm, you don't want to spend money?
[12:08] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: that's the trouble, i don't have the windows cd. i have the game on hard disk though with a no cd crack
[12:08] <ripdisk> flannel: culd not lcate a suitable parser generator
[12:08] <ripdisk> could*
[12:08] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral: not warez I hope
[12:08] <zyfo> longwave: same thing happend last install, just then I tried some things on my own. What am I supposed to do next install you say? :D
[12:08] <frogzoo> zyfo: in my opinion, the dist-upgrade isn't there yet - it's great for newbs, but for people running complex services, a fresh install is best - it's just too hard for the upgrade to manage the different versionso of python, mysql etc
[12:08] <fm> gatekeeper: as few as possible...
[12:09] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: oh no far from it
[12:09] <zyfo> frogzoo: ok
[12:09] <fm> gatekeeper: it's not exactly a router, it is a modem that is a router too
[12:09] <ripdisk> Flannel: what package would i install for a parse generator
[12:09] <longwave> DanielSC: yes, the desktop cd is the live version and the installer bundled onto one cd :)
[12:09] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: installed expansion packs and patches and botpacks and maps and all that jazz
[12:09] <Flannel> ripdisk: it'd depend on whatever parser your source toolchin uses.
[12:09] <frogzoo> ripdisk: yacc?
[12:09] <ripdisk> it says bison, yacc, or byacc
[12:10] <stefg> J-_: gdesklets has a lot of issues... edit the starter in gdesklets manually and remove the start parameter for firefox, this fools firefox into seraching something (Alberta starts with an A, it's the first search hit)
[12:10] <frogzoo> ripdisk: well then I would agree
[12:10] <kevor> Can someone please help me change my computername, it can't be that hard
[12:10] <DJAdmiral> longwave: wouldn't it be more safer to use the alternate iso instead?
[12:10] <frogzoo> ripdisk: sudo apt-get install bison yacc byacc
[12:10] <ripdisk> all of them?
[12:10] <ripdisk> it only needs one
[12:10] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral: sorry, I'm not sure you can install the linux client using a windows install (not to my knowledge anyway), I'm sure cedega will be able to run it with no troubles though if you use the opengl renderer
[12:10] <frogzoo> ripdisk: disk is cheap :D
[12:11] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: I suppose so.
[12:11] <frogzoo> ripdisk: i have bison installed, probly comes with build-essential - so go that one
[12:11] <DJAdmiral> kevor: one sec ill show you how
[12:11] <gatekeeper> fm, easiest way is to buy another router, and connect the two up, if you have a pc with 2 ethernet cards you can set it up as a router, not sure how
[12:12] <protocol1> how can I rename a directory from the console?
[12:12] <frogzoo> protocol1: mv dira dirb
[12:12] <protocol1> can someone give me an exampe?
[12:12] <fm> gatekeeper, ok thanx, or I could just temporarily disable the other interfaces
[12:12] <Nikoladze> stefg: can I post up the line in my fstab I'm having trouble with or can I msg you with it, from what I can see theres no apparent reason why its not working
[12:12] <protocol1> example*?
[12:12] <DJAdmiral> kevor: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_change_computer_name <--- will show you how to change your computer name
[12:12] <frogzoo> protocol1: ^^^
[12:12] <stefg> Nikoladze: better paste your complete fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:12] <kevor> thanks DJAdmiral
[12:12] <protocol1> frogzoo,thx
[12:13] <DJAdmiral> kevor: no problem
[12:13] <gatekeeper> fm, quick googling found this: http://freescobox.justmyhost.com/
[12:13] <xsquared> hi, when i go to the cups web interface and add a printer, it says enter your password and username
[12:13] <DJAdmiral> protocol1: www.LinuxSurvival.com can help you out in learning basic linux commands ;)
[12:13] <J-_> stefg: what do you mean by the start parameter?
[12:13] <xsquared> i tried both root and my usernames, nothing happens
[12:13] <xsquared> what do I do?
[12:13] <Arafangion> What's a nice, easy VPN program to use? I need to connect to the VPN at my uni which appears to be using pptp, but I can't figure out how the _heck_ one uses pptp.
[12:14] <zyfo> !dist-upgrade
[12:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about dist-upgrade - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:14] <stefg> J-_: edit the starter and remove the %s or wahtever it was after /usr/bin/firefox
[12:14] <Arafangion> kvpn doesn't work, and doesn't give any info as to why it isn't working either.
[12:14] <frogzoo> xsquared: this is a wierd one - add user 'cupsys' to shadow & it will work
[12:14] <gatekeeper> fm, and this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17594.html
[12:14] <zcat[1] > Arafangion: I used poptop once, but that was years ago.... was easy enough to set up though
[12:14] <Nikoladze> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19280
[12:14] <DJAdmiral> does anyone know of any dynamic ip client for linux? like the clients that www.no-ip.com, www.changeip.cm, dyndns.com etc. provide
[12:15] <DJAdmiral> changeip.com*
[12:15] <Arafangion> DJAdmiral: Personally, I'd just purchase a domain name. They're very cheap.
[12:15] <threat> hi
[12:15] <Nikoladze> stefg: it mounts /windows with nick as the owner and group but user/group have no permissions on it
[12:15] <fm> thx gatekeeper, now I know what to do tonight... :p
[12:16] <zcat[1] > Arafangion: domain name, sure.. fixed IP's can be a pain some places though
[12:16] <stefg> Nikoladze: that's understandable
[12:16] <kaning> i have pasted the the error i get from mysql here
[12:16] <kaning> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19281
[12:16] <Arafangion> DJAdmiral: Though, my Modem has a dyndns functionality built in - but my dynamic IP changed so rarely that I kept loosing the account.
[12:16] <Nikoladze> stefg: one of my options is wrong?
[12:16] <xsquared> frogzoo, adduser: The user `cupsys' already exists.
[12:16] <gatekeeper> fm, good luck :-)
[12:16] <xsquared> frogzoo, :'(
[12:16] <J-_> stefg: thanks =D
[12:17] <frogzoo> xsquared: add the 'cupsys' user to the 'shadow' group
[12:17] <shinobi4> anyone got a atheros ar5005g wireless network adapter
[12:17] <shinobi4> ?
[12:17] <DJAdmiral> Arafangion: not quite what I mean. let me rephrase myself. I have a dynamic IP address. I want to have a client that will update my dynamic ip so that for example somebody who types in http://djadmiral.game-serve.cc will go to my apache
[12:17] <kaning> longwave you there?
[12:17] <kaning> i finally figured out the pastebin
[12:17] <kaning> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19281
[12:17] <frogzoo> xsquared: I confess, I have no idea why this is set up this way
[12:17] <Arafangion> DJAdmiral: Indeed, however, my modem only "pings" the Dyndns service if my dynamic IP actually changes.
[12:17] <gatekeeper> fm, if you get it working then may be you should write a how to, others would appreciate it
[12:18] <Arafangion> DJAdmiral: And if I go for about 2 months without a "ping", the account gets deleted.
[12:18] <stefg> Nikoladze: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19282
[12:18] <DJAdmiral> Arafangion: ah. my router doesn't have that functionality though
[12:18] <Arafangion> DJAdmiral: But...  My IP address usually stays stable for much longer than 2 months.
[12:18] <Flannel> Arafangion, DJAdmiral, dyndns sends you emails though!
[12:18] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral: dyndns might do something like that but I think its only for the domains you get off them
[12:18] <xsquared> frogzoo, its odd, very odd
[12:18] <ripdisk> flannel: thanks for the help
[12:18] <Arafangion> Flannel: Just so happens that every time the email got sent, I was away on a 2 week vacation!
[12:18] <protocol1> with sftp what command would I use if I wanted to copy a folder?
[12:19] <stefg> Nikoladze: there's a surplus space after 'gid'.. edit it aout
[12:19] <DJAdmiral> Arafangion, Flannel: so do you suppose that using WINE with one of their clients will work?
[12:19] <Flannel> Arafangion: hah.  I've got mine setup to automatically do it ;)
[12:19] <protocol1> example?
[12:19] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: err... there are native linux solutions
[12:19] <zcat[1] > Nikoladze: make a CNAME point to your dyndns name. Too easy
[12:19] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: which is what i'm looking for. show mee!!!
[12:20] <Nikoladze> zcat[1] : is that meant for DJAdmiral?
[12:20] <Nikoladze> stefg: which group has id 46?
[12:20] <stefg> plugdev
[12:20] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: er, search the repositories ;)  'dyndns' would probably be a good term
[12:20] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: searching now, thanks Flannel
[12:20] <fester> hello everyone..
[12:20] <stefg> Nikoladze: read about pmount
[12:21] <zcat[1] > Nikoladze: you were saying dyndns will only point their own records to your IP. Obviously that's all they can do, but you can take a registered domain and make a CNAMEW record that points to the dyndns name, which will then resolve to your IP.
[12:21] <DJAdmiral> no luck, Flannel
[12:21] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: er... oh, you might need to enable universe... heh, I had like a dozen hits
[12:22] <Nikoladze> zcat[1] : cool, sound like just the thing DJAdmiral is looking for
[12:22] <longwave> kaning_: are there any error messages in /var/log/mysql.err or any similar file?
[12:22] <gatekeeper> Flannel, DJAdmiral dyndns a web site?
[12:22] <longwave> kaning_: it looks like mysqld isn't starting properly and that log file should tell you why
[12:22] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: i did enable universe and multiver
[12:22] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: ddclient or ipcheck, are two that mention dyndns specificially
[12:22] <zcat[1] > Nikoladze: it's not what he wanted at all...
[12:22] <fester> Anybody know why the ? symbol wont appear on the gnome terminal? but it can in X
[12:22] <fester> tried changeding locale .. didnt work.. and lang env didnt work
[12:22] <fester> lo?
[12:22] <kaning_> it attempts to though when i start with mysqld_safe but it dies again
[12:23] <longwave> DJAdmiral: i use ddclient to update my dyndns.org address, it's worked for me for years :)
[12:23] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: did you update since then?  since... I'm staring at them right now.  Let me double check to make sure theyre still avail in dapper
[12:23] <DJAdmiral> gatekeeper: dyndns is a dynamic ip service site. if youhave a dynamic ip and want a static name it can help
[12:23] <longwave> kaning_: anything specific in the mysql.err log that shows why it is dying?
[12:23] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: I'm not searching right lol soz
[12:23] <Nikoladze> zcat[1] : he has a dynamic ip address and want to update it to point to a domain, its exactly what he wanted
[12:23] <longwave> kaning_: anything specific in the mysql.err log that shows why it is dying?
[12:23] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: oh, search in descriptions
[12:23] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=dyndns&searchon=all&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[12:23] <gatekeeper> DJAdmiral, that's what I thougt :-)
[12:23] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: I don't want to point it to a domain
[12:24] <kaning_> checking that now
[12:24] <zcat[1] > Nikoladze: no, what he's asking for is the program that tells dyndsn 'here is my new IP' so their servers point to it.
[12:24] <usama> hi all
[12:24] <ddonky> hi
[12:24] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: I want a subdomain of dyndns to point to my dynamic ip
[12:24] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: how do i search in descriptions though?
[12:25] <quikman> what the?
[12:25] <Nikoladze> zcat[1] : I've obviously missunderstood something here, I'll stay out of this :-\
[12:25] <johlin> Where do I set my own dns servers if I don't want them to be replaced with my isp's ones everytime I get a new ip address?
[12:25] <usama> to send or receive faxes, do i need hylafax server or hylafax client?
[12:25] <frogzoo> fester: appears in X but with a different gdm? then I'd say you've accidently set ? to a hotkey in gnome
[12:25] <zcat[1] > ddclient - Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.or
[12:25] <gatekeeper> DJAdmiral, have you got synaptic installed?
[12:25] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: in, synaptic? or what?
[12:25] <zcat[1] > DJAdmiral: apt-cache search dyndns
[12:25] <quikman> k
[12:25] <DJAdmiral> gatekeeper: yep i use synaptic
[12:26] <zcat[1] > from the terminal... or just click 'searc' in synaptic and type dyndns
[12:26] <gatekeeper> DJAdmiral, use that it will search description too
[12:26] <quikman> what the hells dat?
[12:26] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: in the little dropdown box make sure it says 'package names and descriptions'
[12:26] <zcat[1] > apt-cache search is much faster than synaptic for me...
[12:26] <DJAdmiral> gatekeeper, Flannel, zcat[1] , Nikoladze: thanks, I found what i need, thank you all
[12:27] <kaning_> i looked in /var/log/mysql.err
[12:27] <usama> can anyone guide me about that hylafax?
[12:27] <kaning_> and it's an empty file
[12:27] <gatekeeper> DJAdmiral, cool :-)
[12:27] <frogzoo> usama: /usr/share/doc/hylafax any use?
[12:27] <DJAdmiral> has anybody ever had any success with creating an LFS system from Ubuntu Dapper BTW?
[12:28] <fester> frogzoo: no.. just tried clearing most of my shortcuts i dont use.. any other ideas?
[12:28] <zcat[1] > LFS?!!
[12:28] <usama> frogzoo: to send or receive faxes, do i need hylafax server or hylafax client?
[12:28] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : Linux From Scratch = www.linuxfromscratch.org
[12:28] <DJAdmiral> !lfs
[12:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about lfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:28] <DJAdmiral> !linuxfromscratch
[12:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about linuxfromscratch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:28] <Nikoladze> stefg: if something is in my fstab its not going to use pmount is it?
[12:28] <zcat[1] > Err.. by definition you don't create an LFS system _from_ a ploished distro.. that's what 'from scratch' means?
[12:29] <frogzoo> http://logfs.sourceforge.net/
[12:29] <kaning_> and after running mysqld_safe this is what i get
[12:29] <kaning_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19283
[12:29] <stefg> Nikoladze: right, i just wanted you to read the pmount docs to under stand why plugdev is the gid
[12:29] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : not quite. from scratch means you create a linux system out of absolutely nothing
[12:30] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : that is add the kernel, bash prompt, gcc, etc.
[12:30] <ba5e> DJAdmiral, is that what gentoo is all about?
[12:30] <Nikoladze> stefg: k, well I skimmed the man page
[12:30] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : however you need a system to build off of.
[12:30] <stefg> Nikoladze: so does it work noe as expected?
[12:30] <longwave> kaning_: does /var/log/daemon.log show anything about mysqld? mysqld_safe seems to log to there..
[12:30] <frogzoo> usama: apt-cache search fax
[12:30] <zcat[1] > DJAdmiral: that's what trb is for...
[12:30] <DJAdmiral> ba5e: not quite. Gentoo and LFS are similar, however when building LFS you learn how Linux works
[12:30] <kaning_> ok i'll check
[12:31] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : trb?
[12:31] <longwave> kaning_: also, you shouldn't run mysqld_safe directly, use "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"
[12:31] <zcat[1] > Toms Root Boot.
[12:31] <fcarmona> el cafe
[12:31] <ba5e> DJAdmiral: ahhh so its much more hands on (LFS)
[12:31] <gatekeeper> ba5e, gentoo is more about using source code for pakages instead of pre-compiled binaries
[12:31] <longwave> LFS is like installing and running gentoo with no manual ;)
[12:31] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : aaaaaand, it does what exactly?
[12:32] <ba5e> gatekeeper: yes, its to optomise to your own specific system....but is there such a huge leap in performance, or is it just a hark back to the old days where there was not so much choice within any singe dist?
[12:32] <DJAdmiral> brb
[12:32] <ba5e> sorry optimise!
[12:32] <Nikoladze> stefg: I'm not entirely clear about these options, I'm in the plugdev group, so doesn't setting umask=007 mean that I won't be able to r/w/x?
[12:32] <zcat[1] > kernel and basic tools that fit on a floppy. Perfect for setting up the base filesystem, getting lilo and a kernel onto it.. from there you start building!
[12:32] <frogzoo> fester: well xev will probly show that the key is recognised, worth a quick check
[12:33] <frogzoo> fester: should give: XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (3f) "?"
[12:34] <Remy> bluethooth
[12:34] <frogzoo> longwave: finally, a worthwhile challenge...
[12:34] <stefg> Nikoladze: Just try it :-)
[12:34] <Remy> !bluetooth
[12:34] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:34] <kaning_> ok longwave
[12:34] <manasol> hello :(
[12:34] <kaning_> tried what you said and i'm getting a bit more details here
[12:34] <DJAdmiral> ba5e, zcat[1] , gatekeeper: to clarify, linuxfromscratch is a book that shows you how to make your OWN linux distro. Gentoo is a linux distro, but you just build it.
[12:34] <stefg> !hello
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:34] <Nikoladze> stefg: its not working
[12:34] <kaning_> i'll paste it in the bin
[12:34] <longwave> kaning_: put anything useful in a pastebin
[12:34] <longwave> yeah
[12:35] <ba5e> from their site: What is Linux From Scratch?
[12:35] <ba5e> Linux From Scratch (LFS) is a project that provides you with step-by-step instructions for building your own customized Linux system entirely from source.
[12:35] <stefg> Nikoladze: what does 'mount' tell you? Did you umount and 'mount -a' after it
[12:35] <Nikoladze> stefg: I tried umount then mount and mount /dev/hda1 -o remount, I might try reboot in a second, none of these changes seem to be taking effect
[12:35] <fester> frogzoo:  XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (a3) "?"
[12:35] <manasol> I am having a problem with my x264 videos, which play, but they all play really bright (whitened)??
[12:35] <frogzoo> ba5e: think they meant the file system
[12:35] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : actually i'm going with something else - the LFS 6.1.1-4 live cd - perfect for making LFS distros from
[12:35] <Nikoladze> mount says "/dev/hda1 on /windows type vfat (rw,utf8,gid=46,umask=007)"
[12:35] <stefg> Nikoladze: broken fs on hda1 ? dmesg | grep panic
[12:36] <frogzoo> fester: ok, so someone's poaching the event - question is who?
[12:36] <ba5e> sounds good!
[12:36] <DJAdmiral> frogzoo: not building a filesystem, but an actual linux distro
[12:36] <manasol> i installed everything through automatix
[12:36] <fester> its only for gnome terminal..
[12:36] <zcat[1] > like there aren't enough distro's already....
[12:36] <fester> and its annoying cause some of our passwords contain ?
[12:36] <gatekeeper> ba5e, never used gentoo yet so not sure what performance benifit you get, would probable get more benifit by using better hardware
[12:36] <fester> Grrr
[12:36] <^ohoel> you shouldn't use automatix
[12:36] <Nikoladze> stefg: no, phew!
[12:36] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : hey i just want to learn you know
[12:36] <zcat[1] > hehe, true
[12:36] <manasol> I am really new to linux
[12:36] <kaning_> here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19284
[12:36] <ba5e> gatekeeper: I agree
[12:36] <stefg> Nikoladze: you mount seems fine... try a reboot and see if it's happening
[12:37] <Nikoladze> stefg: these are the permissions it actually has d------rwx  15 nick nick  32768 1970-01-01 01:00 windows
[12:37] <ba5e> manasol: don't worry...its not a jungle!!!
[12:37] <Nikoladze> stefg: k, I'll be back in a bit
[12:37] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: wtf ?
[12:37] <manasol> could it be that automatix is the reason my x264 videos are extremely bright?
[12:37] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: that's upside down
[12:37] <Nikoladze> frogzoo: what is?
[12:37] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : so all  i wanted to know is: has anybody had any success with building an LFS System from Dapper instead of the LFS 6.1.1-4 LiveCD?
[12:37] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: let the whole world have access but not nick....
[12:38] <^ohoel> automatix is known to break systems yes
[12:38] <Nikoladze> frogzoo: haha I know, thats my problem
[12:38] <fester> frogzoo: Dont understand why it works in X and not in the terminal.. I can run xterm fine and use ? but not with gnome terminal
[12:38] <blup|patrick> hi
[12:38] <gatekeeper> manasol, I have put some usefull links together including a transition guide: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[12:38] <zcat[1] > DJAdmiral: nope...
[12:38] <blup|patrick> well i have a readme with instructions for my wifistick
[12:38] <Nikoladze> stefg: before I go, could you just explain why I'm using 007 and not 777 for umask?
[12:38] <zcat[1] > !automatix
[12:38] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:38] <manasol> thank you gate ill read that now
[12:38] <blup|patrick> but non of those folders and commands are representing the debian/ubuntu namescheme
[12:39] <blup|patrick> someone there who could "translate" that readme into debian systax for me?
[12:39] <longwave> kaning_: how did you install mysql? is it from the ubuntu repository? was it a fresh install of mysql or has it been upgraded?
[12:39] <frogzoo> fester: gnome-terminal -> edit -> keyboard shortcuts...
[12:39] <zcat[1] > bah, sleep...
[12:39] <kaning_> started from the repo
[12:39] <longwave> kaning_: the problem here is that mysql cannot find one of the tables it needs for internal use so it is refusing to start
[12:39] <kaning_> but i think it was upgraded
[12:39] <stefg> Nikoladze: because that's the default the installer sets if you state your winmounts at install time, and it's working fine for me
[12:40] <Nikoladze> stefg: k, thanks
[12:40] <kaning_> the thing though is that i tried removing it and reinstalling again and it just wouldn't start
[12:40] <blup|patrick> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2518/ <-- there
[12:40] <DJAdmiral> zcat[1] : The LFS 6.1.1-4 LiveCD is a livecd linux distro meant specifically for building LFS distros. it has the LFS book and all source packages on cd as well as all tools you'll need for building your system
[12:40] <longwave> kaning_: when you removed it did you use "purge" or "remove"? only "purge" removes the existing configuration, "remove" keeps it...
[12:41] <kaning_> oh
[12:41] <kaning_> i see
[12:41] <lnx^> hey. I'm trying to get fglrx to work with my radeon 9200 pro. it seems to work fine, but for some reason xvideo doesn't
[12:41] <kaning_> i'll try purge and see what happens
[12:41] <longwave> kaning_: if you don't need any of the mysql data try "apt-get remove --purge mysql-server"
[12:41] <lnx^> I just get 'no adaptors present'
[12:41] <lnx^> I used the ubuntu packages.
[12:41] <DJAdmiral> meh i gtg for lunch
[12:41] <kaning_> i think i will do that
[12:41] <longwave> kaning_: also, after removing mysql, make sure that /var/lib/mysql is empty, that is where mysql keeps all its data files
[12:41] <DJAdmiral> thanks all you guys! this means gatekeeper, Nikoladze, zcat[1] , shute and everybody else
[12:42] <kaning_> ok
[12:42] <DJAdmiral> alrighty ciao!
[12:42] <blup|patrick> nobody there who has an idea how that folders and files are named in ubuntu?
[12:43] <kaning_> there are a couple of files relating to mysql in there i will remove them both
[12:43] <blup|patrick> e.g. what file represents modules.conf in ubuntu
[12:43] <fester> frogzoo: no nothhing in gnome-terminal -> keyboard shortcuts..
[12:43] <fester> event disabled them
[12:43] <fester> frogzoo: even disabled all of them
[12:44] <blup|patrick> what is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ in ubuntu
[12:44] <Nikoladze> stefg: that did the trick, not sure why it took a reboot though
[12:44] <Nikoladze> stefg: thanks for the help
[12:44] <kaning_> it's done
[12:44] <stefg> Nikoladze: yeah, there's this plugdev and policies thing involved, which i didn't had the time yet to fully dig thru
[12:44] <kaning_> now i'm going to reinstall the server and see how it goes
[12:45] <longwave> kaning_: ok, good luck :D
[12:45] <kaning_> thanks
[12:45] <frogzoo> fester: does it work in gedit ?
[12:45] <phanter> anybody who succesfully installed kqemu in dapper?
[12:45] <phanter> it does not work for me :(
[12:46] <blup|patrick> really no one there who could help me?
[12:46] <phanter> i get the error: FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format
[12:46] <frogzoo> blup|patrick: /etc/modules  probly what you want
[12:46] <fester> frogzoo: yep.. works in gedit.. and gnome in general.. just not gnome-terminal
[12:46] <fester> frogzoo: works in xterm alright too!
[12:46] <blup|patrick> frogzoo: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ <-- and that?
[12:47] <frogzoo> fester: now you've deleted all the kb shortcuts in gnome-terminal, logout & back in - $5 says it now works
[12:47] <frogzoo> blup|patrick: /etc/network/interfaces dude probly
[12:47] <gatekeeper> phanter, what does uname -r return?
[12:47] <frogzoo> blup|patrick: debian's network scripts are somewhat different to redhat
[12:47] <fester> LOL..
[12:47] <fester> Ok.. BRB :-)
[12:48] <phanter> gatekeeper: uname -r patrick@laptop:~$ uname -r
[12:48] <phanter> 2.6.15-26-686
[12:48] <blup|patrick> frogzoo: ah... ok
[12:48] <blup|patrick> well
[12:48] <blup|patrick> thx
[12:48] <blup|patrick> :)
[12:48] <phanter> gatekeeper: so that looks good (or am I wrong)
[12:48] <Badm4n> http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/7447 M--- help pls....
[12:48] <SeraVitae> Hi there, just wondering if anyone know's how to diagnose what's wrong with ubuntu always showing 0% battery charge on a laptop.
[12:49] <frogzoo> SeraVitae: ls /proc/acpi/battery
[12:49] <frosty_badfish> I'm trying to configure a new kernel and get this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19285
[12:49] <SeraVitae> BAT0
[12:49] <gatekeeper> phanter, yes i was woundering if that was the problem, but doesn't look like it
[12:49] <Konstable> Can I resize my ext3 parition without having to reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:49] <frogzoo> SeraVitae: cat /proc/acpi/batteryBAT0/state
[12:49] <KampfCaspar> Has anyone seen mkinitramfs on Dapper/AMD64 mixing /lib and /lib64?
[12:49] <phanter> nope, i looked into that already as it was mentioned on different websites
[12:50] <SeraVitae> frogzoo - just did that, it says it's present
[12:50] <KampfCaspar> Konstable: unmount the partition and use e2resize
[12:50] <KampfCaspar> Konstable: (and fdisk of course)
[12:50] <SeraVitae> but the battery monitor in gnome still says 0%
[12:50] <frogzoo> SeraVitae: present is not enough - it should show capacity & discharge rate
[12:50] <SeraVitae> 1822 mAh
[12:50] <Konstable> KampfCaspar: but it's my root partition.  Do  I need to do that from the install CD then?
[12:51] <kaning> i got a new error now
[12:51] <KampfCaspar> Konstable: Try rescue mode - I don't know if the tools are included in there, by heart.
[12:51] <SeraVitae> frogzoo - it's fully charged, when i unplug it it says 'computer running on battery power (0%)
[12:51] <kaning> but we seem to have made some progress
[12:51] <frogzoo> SeraVitae: so who's saying 0% - Power Manager?
[12:51] <kaning> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19287
[12:51] <verus_> hi, is there a gui-tool that lists me all avaiblible networks that are reachable using my wlan device?
[12:51] <phanter> frosty_badfish: have you installed ncursus
[12:51] <Konstable> KampfCaspar: thanks, I'll try.
[12:51] <SeraVitae> yeah.
[12:51] <SeraVitae> and i just re-catted bat0/state and nothing changed.
[12:51] <SeraVitae> charging state: charged
[12:51] <protocol1> how do I setup a bin file
[12:51] <phanter> verus_: gnome or kde?
[12:51] <protocol1> its googleearth
[12:51] <verus_> phanter: gnome
[12:51] <gnomefreak> protocol1: sh file.bin
[12:52] <protocol1> ahh thanks
[12:52] <frosty_badfish> phanter: yes libncurses5-dev
[12:52] <gatekeeper> phanter, sounds like a gcc version issue: http://qemu.dad-answers.com/viewtopic.php?t=100
[12:52] <frogzoo> SeraVitae: best check the laptop section in the wiki
[12:52] <Nikoladze> protocol1: theres a linux version of google earth :-o
[12:52] <frogzoo> !laptop
[12:52] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:52] <SeraVitae> frogzoo - cat /..../info shows 'capacity: unknown, model number: bad battery type: bad" etc.
[12:53] <phanter> verus_: did you try the gnome network monitor?
[12:53] <SeraVitae> I don't even think my laptop is on that list.
[12:53] <fester> frogzoo: I owe you a pint!
[12:53] <frogzoo> cheers to that fester
[12:54] <fester> Where are you in the world anyway?
[12:54] <longwave> kaning: is /var/lib/mysql owned by the "mysql" user?
[12:54] <protocol1> Nikoladze, yup
[12:54] <protocol1> mines installing as we speak...
[12:54] <Nikoladze> protocol1: I'm getting it now :-D
[12:54] <protocol1> yeah I know
[12:54] <protocol1> like WOW
[12:54] <frogzoo> fester: oz
[12:54] <longwave> kaning: that is where the ibdata file belongs, but it looks like it can't write to there
[12:54] <fester> LMAO.. Ill be there in sept:-) for 3 weeks
[12:54] <kaning> it was owned by root
[12:54] <protocol1> its hella sweet
[12:55] <longwave> kaning: do "sudo chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql"
[12:55] <kaning> just changed it to mysql now
[12:55] <kaning> let's see
[12:55] <longwave> ok
[12:55] <verus_> phanter: i used the one i can fin dunter "administration". whats the exact command you mean?
[12:55] <blup|patrick> could someone explain me how to use iwpriv?
[12:56] <Phlexonance> hi, when I start amarok it just jumps through all the files without playing them
[12:56] <frogzoo> !wifi
[12:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <kaning> made some more progress
[12:56] <frogzoo> blup|patrick: ^^
[12:56] <ghostdog> cd dvdauthoring
[12:56] <kaning> now we can't find mysql.host file
[12:56] <phanter> verus_: oke... diffucult questions. I have in my notification erea an icon which shows me the network status. do you have this icon as well?
[12:56] <Nikoladze> does anyone know if google sync works in the UK? I thought there was a problem with my comp when it wouldn't install but I just tried it on my windows box too and it didn't work :-|
[12:56] <kaning> here's the paste
[12:56] <kaning> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19288
[12:57] <SeraVitae> frogzoo - dmidecode | grep bat
[12:57] <SeraVitae> shows 'smart battery is supported'
[12:57] <manasol> well i found out its a bug on 915 chipsets that washes the colors :( dang
[12:57] <SeraVitae> i just found some threads saying that 'smart batteries' talk through SMBus or something.
[12:57] <longwave> kaning: what files are in /var/lib/mysql/mysql?
[12:58] <frogzoo> SeraVitae: yeh, google's your best bet from here, or the wiki
[12:58] <blup|patrick> frogzoo: sorry for beeing penetrant...
[12:58] <manasol> thank you for the help, back to windows :(  thanks again
[12:58] <SeraVitae> yeah
[12:58] <kaning> ibdata1; ib_logfile0; ib_logfile1
[12:58] <kaning> that's it
[12:58] <blup|patrick> the old sutff... wpa, ralink 2500
[12:58] <blup|patrick> :(
[12:58] <verus_> phanter: yes, but i need to see the availible netwoks on my subnet. i guess i found an answer on the ubunto link which was just pased for wifi. thanks!
[12:59] <phanter> oke
[12:59] <gatekeeper> Phlexonance, you need the correct codecs if you are running the xine engine then install libxine-extracodecs
[12:59] <kevinz> what should i do before unplugging usb key?
[12:59] <longwave> kaning: no "mysql" subfolder? that should be created at install time..
[12:59] <kaning> oh i see
[01:00] <kaning> so should i create a mysql sub folder and change owner to mysql?
[01:00] <verus_> phanter: what i needed is "network-manager". mybe at some  point you need it as well
[01:00] <longwave> kaning: well, it needs the support files that mysql is looking for too (the "host" file mentioned in that error message)
[01:00] <phanter> verus_: the same functionality is in network monitor only harder to find maybe
[01:00] <kaning> yeah i realise
[01:01] <kaning> is there anything in particular the host file should have in it
[01:01] <Phlexonance> gatekeeper: ah thanks! I wonder why it wasnt required for amarok
[01:01] <kaning> or can i just touch
[01:01] <longwave> kaning: it is a binary file with some mysql configuration info in, i dont think you can manually create it
[01:01] <kaning> right
[01:02] <longwave> kaning: but the install script should be creating these files for you, you're not supposed to do this yourself
[01:02] <gatekeeper> Phlexonance, yw -:) w32codec would also probable be usefull depending what files you are using
[01:02] <kaning> i wonder why it's not
[01:02] <kaning> my wait
[01:02] <kaning> i found something here
[01:03] <kaning> there's a script called debian_start or something like that
[01:04] <longwave> kaning: that is run whenever mysqld restarts, i think
[01:04] <kaning> next to it is my.cnf
[01:04] <kaning> would that be the config file
[01:04] <longwave> kaning: i have to leave for a while now, hopefully i have helped a bit, i am not sure why it's not working as intended though!
[01:04] <Nikoladze> protocol1: is your google earth working ok? mine looks a bit glitchy
[01:04] <kaning> thanks
[01:05] <kaning> you've been a great help
[01:05] <longwave> :)
[01:09] <Wapol> hi
[01:10] <corza> ahhhhhhhh I am in need of help!
[01:10] <Lynoure> corza: just ask your question
[01:10] <corza> I have just accidentally deleted a whole folder of stuff
[01:10] <corza> is it recoverable
[01:11] <dragon> where can i find out about update 5.04 ubuntu to 5.10/6.06 ubuntu
[01:11] <Lynoure> corza: which filesystem?
[01:11] <corza> ext3
[01:12] <nick01> how do u insert a subtitle in a vcd ?
[01:12] <Lynoure> corza: if through the graphical interface, it might still be in your trashcan, otherwise not easily
[01:12] <corza> its not still in my garbage can lol omg this is bad
[01:13] <corza> i went sudo
[01:13] <corza> sudo rm -R and i accidentally hit enter on the wrong directory
[01:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hello!
[01:13] <phanter> corza: backup?
[01:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what file should I edit to change command for extra keys???
[01:14] <MenZa> Your '?' key seems to be stuck.
[01:14] <MenZa> Oh, sorry wrong channel.
[01:14] <protocol1> Nikoladze, yup...mine works ok...I have my 3d acceleration running
[01:14] <protocol1> do you have 3d acceleration working on your system?
[01:14] <corza> Lynoure: is it possible to recover it?
[01:15] <wahjava> hi channel
[01:15] <wahjava> how to change file associations in Firefox  ?
[01:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what file should I edit to change command for extra keys??? i got output like this:
[01:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Couldn't execute command: rhythmbox
[01:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Verify that this command exists.
[01:15] <wahjava> I want to start PDFs with KGhostview instead of Evince.
[01:16] <CarinArr> corza, not easily.. there's probably specialist software to do it, but i couldn't really tell you which, or how to get them (haven't had to do recovery like that myself)..
[01:17] <Lynoure> corza: you can grep the device for some parts, but if you lost anything more than something specific, mostly no. There are some tools claiming to do it, like http://www.data-recovery-software.net/Linux_Recovery.shtml/?GGLAW070 , but I have no experience on those and they require MS Win
[01:17] <CarinArr> corza, one thing i've heard countless times is to try to use the disk as little as possible so it's not overwritten accidentally
[01:17] <protocol1> Nikoladze, well no...mines using indirect rendering too
[01:17] <Nikoladze> protocol1: yeah, but with ati open source drivers, its a radeon 7500
[01:17] <corza> ok it might still be there under the root's trashcan? can i log in as root in GUI?
[01:17] <CarinArr> corza, they won't be if you did rm -rf
[01:17] <protocol1> it works ok but its slow when I pan around
[01:18] <protocol1> maybe thats why its still beta
[01:18] <Lynoure> corza: you could also try what's described on http://web.glandium.org/blog/?p=87
[01:18] <protocol1> ??
[01:18] <Nikoladze> protocol1: prbably
[01:18] <Lynoure> corza: only graphically deleted stuff goes into the trashcan
[01:18] <corza> bugger
[01:19] <FeestBijtje> !webcam
[01:19] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:19] <protocol1> Nikoladze, Im going to still use this though
[01:19] <J_P> hi all
[01:19] <protocol1> works good enough for me
[01:20] <corza> hmm that software says it supports ext2 only
[01:21] <protocol1> how do I add a menu item into Applications > Internet menu?
[01:21] <amphi> corza: it is not really possible to undelete on ext3
[01:21] <Foutrelis> lots of people i see :PP
[01:22] <wahjava> how do I see bugs associated with kpdf (Kubuntu Dapper)
[01:22] <wahjava> ?
[01:22] <MenZa> !launchpad
[01:22] <wahjava> Launchpad shows "Bugs" disabled
[01:22] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[01:22] <corza> amphi: hmm nevermind it's all good i think i might have some of the stuff backed up on dvds some place
[01:22] <amphi> corza: good-oh
[01:22] <corza> amphi: i think lol
[01:23] <amphi> heh
[01:23] <corza> amphi: just kind of glad that i put my music & movies in stuff in a separate folder
[01:24] <anne_> re tout le monde. l'install de win98 dans vmware-player semble bien se passer... part que: vous savez ou sera stocke win98 dans l'arobrescence nunux ?
[01:24] <anne_> soory wrong channel
[01:24] <mheath> wahjava, if you look in KDE subversion directory /branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf/ you'll likely find a bugs file
[01:24] <Foutrelis> i installed ubuntu yesterday.. i love it!.. the only problem i had is that when i logon to my msn account using gaim it crashes.. i see my contacts and after a second or two it closes.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:25] <wahjava> mheath, thanks
[01:25] <amphi> Foutrelis: you could run it under gdb and see if that gives a clue as to why it's crashing
[01:25] <Foutrelis> it doesnt :P
[01:26] <verus_> does anyone know what tool this is: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png ; is it really the frontend from networkmanager?
[01:26] <inzanez> gday
[01:26] <verus_> i installed that an my wlan-device is running but still i only get "wired network" when i click on the panel icon
[01:26] <mheath> verus_, yep
[01:27] <Foutrelis> amphi, sorry.. i run it with terminal.. havent try with gdb
[01:27] <verus_> mheath: is there any further configuration needed to let it display the wlan networks? or doesn't it show the list at all if no network has been found?
[01:28] <amphi> Foutrelis: type bt to get a backtrace after it crashes, and see if that gives any hint
[01:28] <Mora> Hello
[01:28] <brotakul> q control is a graphic interface for qemu?
[01:28] <mheath> verus_, I don't have much experience with Network Manager. You can take a look a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager though
[01:29] <amphi> Foutrelis: or you could try moving its rc file[s] , and see if it still crashes - I've seen several badly written progs die reading their rc files
[01:29] <Mora> Does anyone here have some experience with setting bridge interfaces and /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:29] <Foutrelis> amphi, i type (in gdb) 'file gaim' and then 'run' but it says that [(no debugging symbols found)] 
[01:29] <verus_> mheath: thats where i came from :) but thanks
[01:30] <amphi> Foutrelis: yeah, you'll have to build the package yourself if you want debugging symbols; the backtrace can still be useful, sometimes
[01:30] <Pums> I searching for a site where you can find compatibility status for wlan cards in Linux.. Can't remember the adress
[01:30] <Pums> sombudy knows it?
[01:31] <amphi> Pums: google for 'linux wireless' in hp.com and you'll find it
[01:31] <Foutrelis> amphie, it says: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[01:31] <imperfect-> holy crap
[01:31] <imperfect-> is there a help channel?
[01:31] <amphi> Foutrelis: we knew that ;)
[01:31] <Foutrelis> lol
[01:31] <Foutrelis> i did a bt
[01:31] <amphi> Foutrelis: type 'bt' and hit enter, and see what you get
[01:32] <inzanez> hm, I tried to boot kubuntu install-cd on my machine, but it suddenly stops..without error message.
[01:32] <Pums> oh thx amphi
[01:32] <Foutrelis> ok i ll paste the code somewhere and give you a link
[01:32] <PingunZ> hi all
[01:32] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a kernel option I can feed it that will allow me to use a ApplDisplay with the funky connector?
[01:32] <imperfect-> Apple Display too
[01:34] <Foutrelis> this is the bt output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19293
[01:36] <amphi> Foutrelis: I am not overly enlightened by that ;) did you try moving its rc files?
[01:36] <PingunZ> is ubuntu down again --> 15% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)]  ??
[01:36] <Foutrelis> amphi, how do i do that ?? :P
[01:36] <ailean> I know this isn't ubuntu related, but no one is replying to me in the hardware chan. can someone point me to a guide to how I can troubleshoot and possible replace my fans/temperature guages?
[01:37] <Mora> Any networking gurus around? I'm trying to find a way to exploit interfaces file so I can set wireless options on an interface, while /not/ configuring it's IP address? (as it part of a bridge)
[01:37] <Foutrelis> amphi, sorry.. i ll use google to find out how..
[01:37] <nikin> hy all
[01:38] <nikin> the time has come to install... but i have a little problem, i had made a second partiton for my files, to be safe.. but dont know where i should mount it
[01:38] <GStubbs43> Whoa... did you guys know that right now, this is the second most populated IRC Channel on freenode?
[01:39] <amphi> Foutrelis: just move its .file or .directory temporarily to see if that's what it's choking on
[01:39] <nikin> if i mount it to /usr then all my programs will install there, and taht is not what i want
[01:39] <Konstable> does anyone know anything about the ATI graphics drivers?  I just installed them but OpenGL is just as slow as it was before.
[01:39] <amphi> GStubbs43: that's because ubuntu is so easy to use ;)
[01:39] <GStubbs43> :D
[01:40] <Mora> nikin, best /not/ to mount during install, you can mount it manually later.
[01:40] <rsk> GStubbs43, what is the most populated then?
[01:40] <GStubbs43> #Gentoo
[01:40] <amphi> GStubbs43: even easier to use...
[01:40] <rsk> ;)
[01:40] <nikin> ok... then i come back with that problem :D now i gotta go coz i am now installling from live cd :D
[01:40] <nikin> and i chat from that live cd to :D
[01:40] <brotakul> how do i mount a .dmg file for q control[qemu] ?
[01:41] <DosBubba> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is down. ;x
[01:41] <GStubbs43> The top three channels are all linux.
[01:42] <nikin> installer crashed
[01:42] <nikin> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:42] <nikin>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py", line 1078, in on_back_clicked
[01:42] <nikin>     gtk.main_quit()
[01:42] <amphi> Foutrelis: ~/.gaim perhaps? I don't use the thing
[01:42] <amphi> Foutrelis: or ~/.gaimrc ? or perhaps it's some hideous xml thing...
[01:43] <gatekeeper> DosBubba, try removing us. or replace with another country code like ca.
[01:43] <nikin> hy again
[01:44] <nikin> i xkilled the wrong app
[01:44] <inzanez> MetaPhaze: still the same :) hangs on "Caching service dependencies"
[01:44] <nikin> inzanez: you try to install app runing live?
[01:44] <inzanez> nikin: ? I try to boot minimal install cd
[01:45] <inzanez> ah, no, sorry, kubuntu install cd is it named :) *confused*
[01:45] <inzanez> and it stops when "adding live cd user"...
[01:45] <Foutrelis> amphi, in ~/.gaim there are three xml files [accounts.xml, blist.xml, prefs.xml]  and an empty 'smileys' folder.. shall i move this folder to a different location and try if gaim crashes? :P
[01:46] <amphi> Foutrelis: yeah, you could try mv .gaim .gaim.old or whatever, and see if things improve
[01:46] <Foutrelis> amphi, thnx.. i ll give that a try and see what happens :P
[01:47] <shinobi2> anyone using ndiswrapper or madwifi?
[01:47] <Davo_Dinkum> What's a good distro for tablet PCs?
[01:49] <Bardamu> hello
[01:49] <inzanez> noone an idea what this could be?
[01:49] <Rondom> Davo_Dinkum: tabubuntu ;-) (dodsn't exist at all)
[01:50] <Davo_Dinkum> rondom: well, that will b handy
[01:50] <amphi> Foutrelis: really? oh, well, just don't use msn then ;)
[01:52] <Foutrelis> amphi, cant stop using msn.. bussiness stuff :P
[01:52] <jrib> Foutrelis: I know you did a backtrace, but you don't get any terminal output when running 'gaim' in a terminal?
[01:52] <jrib> Foutrelis: maybe even 'gaim -d'
[01:52] <amphi> Foutrelis: business over msn? dear me ;)
[01:53] <Foutrelis> amphi, thnx for your help :P
[01:53] <Rondom> Davo_Dinkum: it was a joke
[01:54] <Foutrelis> jrib, as I remember it said that its not my fault and .. (cant remeber)
[01:54] <amphi> Foutrelis: I don't use gaim myself, so I don't have another suggestion - you could ask in #gaim, perhaps - they might make more of the bt
[01:54] <Ronz> how do i change the permissions of a folder from terminal?
[01:54] <jrib> Ronz: chmod
[01:54] <amphi> Ronz: man chmod
[01:55] <Foutrelis> g_log: gaim_base64_decode: assertion `text != NULL' failed
[01:55] <Foutrelis> Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[01:55] <Foutrelis> This is a bug in the software and has happened through
[01:55] <Foutrelis> no fault of your own.
[01:55] <Ronz> <3
[01:55] <Ronz> ty
[01:55] <inzanez> "hdd: media error (bad sector) --> burn new cd or download new image"? :)
[01:55] <regebro> Hello!            Is there a nice GUI set up for locales?     (I've googled, but didn't find any.)
[01:55] <regebro> I want to have en_US as my language, but not the horrible en_US date formats. :)
[01:56] <bostik> hi all
[01:56] <amphi> Foutrelis: heheh - I suspected the dreaded null pointer/string
[01:58] <Foutrelis> I know what i ll do.. i ll get the source code and fix this damn thing.. :P I am joking.. what can i do about that?
[01:58] <nikin> how can i turn of the name colors of gaim in IRC i cant read some of your names, coz its like (FFAAAA) on white
[01:58] <amphi> nikin: use a black bg term ;)
[01:58] <bostik> i have an ubuntu server connected with two NIC to the same subnet
[01:59] <bostik> and i notice some strange behaviour
[01:59] <amphi> Foutrelis: ask in #gaim - it may be a known issue
[01:59] <regebro> In fact, I want the french locale, except for language, which should en en_US and date which should be sv_SE. :)
[01:59] <Rondom> Davo_Dinkum: I don't know about such a distribution, it wasn't meant seriously
[01:59] <bostik> i have checek my route table
[01:59] <jrib> Foutrelis: I'd search the bugtracker for gaim to see if anyone else has had that problem.  As far as actually fixing it, if you can't find some kind of explanation (since msn wfm) then you might want to try the gaim2beta3 debs that are around
[01:59] <bostik> and i fount something strange
[01:59] <Snake007uk> hey guys, is there a ldap broswer tool for ubuntu ?
[01:59] <Davo_Dinkum> Rondom: i knew you were kidding, don't worry
[01:59] <Loady> does anyone know of a apache support channel other than #apache ?
[01:59] <Rondom> regebro: lol
[01:59] <torti-> hi is there any good ubuntu 6.06 related bridge-howto for bridging 2 ethernet devices?
[02:01] <brotakul> hi. i want to run an already installed windows xp under ubuntu using Qemu. i installed Qemu. how do i "open" the windows xp that i have installed on my other  partition?
[02:01] <regebro> Ah well, guess I need to hand-fiddle all the LC_* variables then.
[02:01] <philipsmith> Hi. I need to know whether I have a static IP or not, and what the IP address is. My machine is connected to a router-switch and I get boadband thru cable.
[02:02] <Foutrelis> amphi, jrib, thank you for your help.. i ll ask at #gaim and search google or something.. :P
[02:02] <jrib> !gaim2 > Foutrelis
[02:02] <inzanez> my ubuntu install cd stops booting reporting a "hdd: media error (bad sector)". I see that this is reported on google a few times, but there's no "solution"...anyone a hint?
[02:02] <davek7> hi
[02:02] <jrib> Foutrelis: those are the packages in case you can't get it sorted with gaim1.5, gl
[02:02] <Fracture> hi, I just tried to install dbmail-pgsql, and it failed, now I can't uninstall it.
[02:02] <regebro> On that subject, does anybody know of a keyboard layout editor, that does NOT include fiddling with abscure format files and compiling them?
[02:03] <Fracture> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19296
[02:03] <brotakul> hi. i want to run an already installed windows xp under ubuntu using Qemu. i installed Qemu. how do i "open" the windows xp that i have installed in my other  partition?
[02:04] <shinobi2> anyone updated the kernel to 2.16.26?
[02:04] <mjuaguilar> hola
[02:06] <davek7> does anyone know of a good link about bootloaders? I have PClinuxOS on a hdb and WinXP on hda and I want to partition half of hda for Ubuntu
[02:06] <Fracture> anyone know how to fix : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19296
[02:07] <finalbeta> brotakul, are you sure it can do that?
[02:08] <brotakul> finalbeta: i'm just asking, i don't know.
[02:09] <shinobi2> is ubuntu a derivative of debian?
[02:09] <jrib> !debian
[02:09] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[02:09] <finalbeta> brotakul, in the faq , read this : Can I run my Windows on my /dev/hda in qemu?
[02:09] <finalbeta> the online faq
[02:10] <brotakul> the qemu faq? from the homepage?
[02:10] <finalbeta> brotakul, I know vmware can do this, but I also know you should not do it. Especially not when you still want to use the os in a normal boot configuration
[02:10] <finalbeta> brotakul, yes
[02:10] <jbrimble> Can someone tell me where the cups configuration file is, where I can add printers manually?
[02:10] <q_x> i want to see indonesian people
[02:11] <finalbeta> brotakul, the hardware on your PC and on the emulated PC that qemu and vmware creates are much diffrend, booting the os in both inviroments will cause problem, no doubt about it.
[02:12] <brotakul> finalbeta: what can i do? just trying...
[02:12] <finalbeta> Xen might provide a way out for that in the future, but at the moment windows is not supported in xen (without full system emulation)
[02:12] <finalbeta> brotakul, if you don't mind breaking the windows installation, you can try.
[02:12] <brotakul> yes :)
[02:12] <finalbeta> I'm sure howto's are provider on the site.
[02:13] <shinobi2> http://www.kernel.org/ shows current is 2.6.17 but my ubuntu is using 2.6.26
[02:13] <mjuaguilar> hay alguien de espaa
[02:13] <finalbeta> Perhaps you can't consider using vmware, it's more known, might be beter :p
[02:13] <shinobi2> is that an error?
[02:13] <CarinArr> shinobi2, are you sure yours isn't "2.6.15-26"?
[02:14] <CarinArr> shinobi2, what does your "uname -r" say?
[02:15] <finalbeta> (CarinArr is right)
[02:15] <shinobi2> CarinArr: maybe it's 2.6.15-26, i have to reboot to check again.  i just installed the update on my dual-boot box
[02:16] <arto> !atic
[02:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about atic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:16] <arto> !ati
[02:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:16] <jrib> !es
[02:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:16] <finalbeta> good luck on ati driver install, you can always use luck on that
[02:17] <b1ackcr0w> afternoon all
[02:17] <finalbeta> afternoon you.
[02:17] <b1ackcr0w> :)
[02:17] <brotakul> finalbeta: i changed my mind :P . i'm going to make an image instalation :D
[02:17] <b1ackcr0w> does anybody fancy helping me with my sata drive with an NTFS partition?
[02:18] <brotakul> what they tell you there... it's scary for a begineer like me
[02:18] <finalbeta> brotakul, I would do so, I do know that for vmware they are some programs arround that can "try" to convert an installed OS to a VMware image. That might save you time.
[02:18] <finalbeta> PS: vmware server is noww free
[02:20] <VisezTrance> what's ubuntu's default music player ? and does it have mp3 support ?
[02:20] <brotakul> finalbeta: if you know better: witch is the best choice?: qemu or vmware? if vmware, witch: player, server, enterprise? i don't know theese things
[02:21] <finalbeta> brotakul, I never heared of qemu to be honest, I would personally go for vmware, and sinse the server is free, I would use that one. ubuntu forums hold howto's on how to install vmware server.
[02:21] <Mora> brotakul, define your needs.
[02:21] <zsh> is there a way of installing xubuntu without starting the gui? it is sooooo slow...
[02:21] <arto> May someone help me understand a paragraph in this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   : What does this part mean:  Whether you install manually or from dapper-seveas...
[02:22] <jrib> VisezTrance: rhythmbox and you can easily get mp3 support, I will have ubotu send you the link
[02:22] <Snake007uk> guys i have this package Lat_1.0.5-1.all.deb, how do i install it and its deps
[02:22] <jrib> !mp3 > VisezTrance
[02:22] <tengil> could anyone tell me how i log everything that iptables are dropping or denying?
[02:22] <redmonkey> how do i configure xfmedia so that it doesnt open itself again and again if i open another mp3 with a filebrowser?
[02:22] <redmonkey> i only want to start it once.. and not twice or three times at the same time
[02:22] <q_x> mp4:>
[02:23] <keir> whats the best way to disable my menu key? ,system-wide as opposed to for an individual user
[02:23] <zsh> anyone?
[02:23] <brotakul> i need to run a bunch of programs under ubuntu that are not working/well with wine. so emulating the whole windows would help me a lot. where u saw that vmware was free? i saw player was free...
[02:23] <arto> !disable module
[02:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about disable module - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:23] <VisezTrance> thanks jrib, i have found what i was searching for.
[02:24] <longwave> tengil: you have to add the LOG target for the iptables entries you want to log for, check "man iptables"
[02:24] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[02:24] <arto> !modules
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about modules - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:24] <nikin> re hy
[02:24] <finalbeta> brotakul, are you using the latest wine version? Because the version from the ubuntu repositories is way to old.
[02:24] <arto> How can I disable a module?
[02:24] <nikin> ^X
[02:24] <zsh> is there a way of installing xubuntu without starting the gui? it is sooooo slow...
[02:24] <finalbeta> brotakul, vmware player can't be used to install a new OS I believe.
[02:24] <redmonkey> zsh, you need to get the alternative xubuntu installation cd. it has a text-mode installer. you can download it directly from the officialxubuntu website.
[02:25] <finalbeta> Vmware server is beta soft and theirefor is free.
[02:25] <longwave> arto: "rmmod modulename" to remove it from the current session, or check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to disable a module on every reboot
[02:25] <brotakul> finalbeta: i installed it from repos, yes. do you know a way to upgrade to a new version? anyway i still want to run am emulator like vmware..
[02:25] <GUARDiAN|nb> how can i restrict the area on my desktop where icons are placed? problem: i have a xinerama-setup with notebook-display (1024x768) as main-display, and an external tft as secondary (1280x1024) gnome thinks my desktop is 2304x1024, and puts icons outside the visible area =(
[02:25] <zsh> redmonkey, is there no other way. downloading will take approximately 18 hours
[02:26] <q_x> gfmjrjt he, ud,kbfuykftmyu5nm  /l/;lu6tjuht
[02:26] <arto> longwave: on an ati driver guide, it says this: Disable fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ... ??
[02:26] <Mora> finalbeta, you /can/ install new os inside Player, if you have created a virtual machine in another vmware product before.
[02:26] <redmonkey> zsh, not that i know .. sorry.
[02:26] <basvg> hi all, can anyone give me a good pointer to get started on 'easycam' ?
[02:26] <longwave> arto: in that case, just put a # symbol in front of the "fglrx" line in that file, i think
[02:26] <jrib> !webcam
[02:26] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:26] <zsh> redmonkey, thanks
[02:26] <Mora> er, on a machine you created in another vmware product.
[02:26] <arto> longwave: comment it.. aha.
[02:26] <finalbeta> Mora, yep.
[02:27] <finalbeta> brotakul, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161 (this is a howto for installing torrent in wine), but follow the part about installing wine, the repo they use holds a new version of wine.
[02:28] <brotakul> finalbeta: thanks. after that i'm going to install vmware ;)
[02:28] <finalbeta> hava fun. It's pretty good, but pretty slow, can't wait for xen.
[02:30] <blup|patrick> hi
[02:30] <blup|patrick> network printers from a windows based os... hwo can i access them from within linux?
[02:30] <rsk> with cups and samba
[02:31] <blup|patrick> i am noob...
[02:31] <blup|patrick> i need some more infos that give me an idea what i have to do...
[02:31] <Dru> afnoon all
[02:32] <wthww> when i try to compile something, it says zlib isnt fouund. what can i do to correcct that?
[02:32] <hardware> hello
[02:32] <jrib> wthww: do you have the zlib dev packages installed?
[02:32] <longwave> wthww: try installing zlib1g-dev
[02:32] <wthww> ty
[02:32] <hardware> hello! world
[02:33] <jrib> hardware: hello, hardware!
[02:33] <Dru> lol
[02:33] <RvGaTe> hardware, strange, only 818 people in your world?
[02:33] <hardware> can i ask how to setup to run exe files from ubuntu
[02:33] <jrib> !wine
[02:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:33] <hardware> jrib, can you help me?
[02:34] <RvGaTe> he just gave you the answer
[02:34] <hardware> thanks
[02:34] <RvGaTe> :S
[02:34] <shinobi2> when i installed ubuntu, there's all these error messages.  kind of worries me.  does windows have these messages during installation, but was not displayed?
[02:34] <nikin> when will wine go 1.0 ?
[02:34] <Healem> heya all, what's that package's name that holds most the dev tools ? (like gcc g++ and the needed libs and all )
[02:34] <jrib> Healem: build-essential
[02:34] <wthww> build-essential
[02:34] <finalbeta> shinobi2, what messages?
[02:34] <hardware> ok
[02:35] <nikin> why does the live cd not install build-essential? i cant understand :D
[02:35] <RvGaTe> shinobi2, windows != linux
[02:35] <LiteWait> Does anyone have a recommendation on a PCMCIA/WIFI card that just works with Dapper out of the box?
[02:35] <shinobi2> finalbeta: that i would not know, it was too fast and too lengthy during the network install of apt-get instal ubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <wthww> if it worx, leave it alone!
[02:35] <Healem> jrib, cheers
[02:36] <shinobi2> RvGaTe: ah, yes, thanks for pointing it out
[02:36] <q_x> shinobi2 where u come from?
[02:37] <shinobi2> q_x: =)
[02:38] <nikin> Litewait: mine is line that
[02:38] <nikin> but i cant tell you coz i net over that
[02:38] <q_x> i want to know u
[02:38] <nikin> its a bluetake
[02:38] <chemaja> To Melb/Australian Laptop Users: which local laptop shop supports Ubuntu, if at all?
[02:39] <wthww> anyone have any idea WHY synaptic wont use the net? i am on irx, so the nets not my problem
[02:39] <spring> hi  i am using javasvn with subclipse in eclipse, what does url look like for accessing repository in eclipse??
[02:39] <sam-sarnie> i have installed ubuntu and have all my data backed up on a ntfs drive but dont have windows any  more the file system is mounted but i cant access it as it is root protected can anyone help
[02:40] <q_x> shinobi2 are u there?
[02:40] <spring> i tried svn://path-to-my-repos but no help
[02:40] <LiteWait> nikin: working without ndiswrapper?
[02:40] <chemaja> sam-sarnie: what's the EXACT error (use paste)
[02:40] <chemaja> sam-sarnie: pastebin, i mean
[02:40] <sam-sarnie> when i click the folder it says access denied
[02:40] <spring> sam-sarnie: read the doc, it's all there
[02:41] <sam-sarnie> read the docs spring not all there
[02:41] <chemaja> sam-sarnie: how hollywood :) ps. i'd trust spring
[02:41] <Dru> know of a #ubuntu-laptop chat
[02:41] <shinobi2> q_x: yes?
[02:41] <chemaja> Dru: guru
[02:41] <q_x> where u now?
[02:42] <spring> let me check
[02:42] <chemaja> DUH #ubuntu-au
[02:42] <chemaja> i am so dull, every aussie would guess THAT
[02:42] <npster> I allready have Grum installed and I wan't to install Xubuntu, will that make a change ?
[02:42] <chemaja> :P
[02:43] <npster> I allready have GRUB installed and I wan't to install Xubuntu, will that make a change, or an MBR confusion ?
[02:43] <nikin> are the files in automatic update checked by the ubuntu developers?
[02:43] <propan0> hello all
[02:43] <spring> sam-sarnie: menu --> help , then look for partition
[02:44] <propan0> is there anywhere i can paste this log so someone can help me out? - i seem to have some trouble with the resolutions i can choose
[02:44] <sam-sarnie> have done sprng the problem is the drive is mounted and that tells me how to mount it
[02:44] <Dru> trying out the beta 2 of firefox atm
[02:44] <spring> whats the url for accessing subversion with javasvn in eclipse?? anyone
[02:44] <Dru> not bad just shame my fav skin is incompatable
[02:45] <propan0> anyone konw why i get this on the x.org log file warning	NVIDIA(0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0
[02:45] <wthww> :|
[02:46] <wthww> synaptic and apt hate me
[02:46] <propan0> lol
[02:46] <nikin> wthww: you are not the only one :D
[02:46] <wthww> lol
[02:46] <perfid> Apt is great! :)
[02:47] <wthww> when i try to use synaptic now, it wont downlaod anything
[02:47] <wthww> :|
[02:47] <wthww> and my internet is fine , im on irc.
[02:47] <Dru> you been adding repositories?
[02:47] <perfid> wthww: Have you checked your repositories?
[02:47] <propan0> ah should have read the topic
[02:47] <propan0> :>
[02:47] <musiclinux> does anyone know how to make windows wirefram whilst dragging?
[02:48] <Snake007uk> guys i have this package Lat_1.0.5-1.all.deb, I cant seem to satisfy the deps for it, can someone help me please
[02:48] <gatekeeper> wthww, put your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin so people can take a look and help you
[02:49] <imperfect-> Anyone here good with Ubuntu PPC?
[02:49] <wthww> ok, thanks
[02:49] <q_x> anyone,how i can chat on yahoo?
[02:50] <niruana> hi, does the new ubuntu have this new packages? http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[02:50] <niruana> dmesg| grep ipw isnt working here
[02:50] <gatekeeper> q_x, use koppette, or gaim or something like that
[02:51] <propan0> could anyone help me out please... having trouble with my nvidia/monitor  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19301
[02:51] <wthww> http://pastebin.ca/108328 < my /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:51] <brett_tolbert> hey guys
[02:51] <Dru> thought gaim catered for Yahoo
[02:51] <npster> I have GRUB installed and Linux Knoppix, I want to delete Knoppix and use Xubuntu? Will that make a change ?  PLEASE HELP
[02:51] <gatekeeper> Dru, it does :-)
[02:51] <wthww> Dru: do you need yahoo voice/audio?
[02:52] <q_x> anyone from indonesia?
[02:52] <wheelswitch> so i am trying to back up my website, i cant use scp, is there any way to do it with an ftp client and a bash script?
[02:53] <gatekeeper> wthww, what are you trying to install?
[02:53] <wthww> zliblg-dev
[02:53] <inzanez> cewl ubuntu booted, but installer crashes...
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> good morning everyone
[02:53] <htv8> anyone knows how to make partitions for ubuntu?
[02:54] <wthww> htv8: sudo cfdisk << be carefull with this
[02:54] <brett_tolbert> i have  a fat32 partition with winxp on my hdd, when i try to mount it in Places/Computer i get "unable to mount selected volume, error: device /dev/sda2 is not removable
[02:54] <brett_tolbert> error: could not execute pmount"  i thought that linux could access fat32, thats why i didn't go with ntfs.  what can i do?
[02:54] <Dru> inzanez if you are trying to install from the live cd it has problems (I found out the hard way)
[02:55] <Dru> DL the install CD as opposed to the liveCD
[02:55] <htv8> can i do it off the desktop live cd?
[02:55] <gatekeeper> !zliblg-dev
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about zliblg-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:55] <czEKista> hi. is it possible to import/export menu between gnome and kde?
[02:55] <inzanez> Dru: hehe :) I needed 1 hour to boot this thing ;) Ahm...has kubuntu an install-cd as well?
[02:56] <Ace2007> Hi again all, little tiny problem, mplayer won't go full screen when i double click on the video window or come out of full screen when i double click on the player window, whats up with that?
[02:56] <inzanez> Dru: I just saw that one, and a "special-install" cd...for upgrades and so on
[02:57] <Dru> I downloaded the live cd by mistake & was getting miffed due to it bombing out when installing
[02:57] <brett_tolbert> i used to run mandrake and it could access my fat32 winxp partition fine but i just switched to ubuntu and it doesn't want to mount it.  what do i need to do? thanks
[02:57] <gatekeeper> wthww, hmmm can't find that one in the repos
[02:57] <Hexidigital_> !ntfs > brett_tolbert
[02:57] <inzanez> Dru: So you mean "Server install CD"? Cause "Desktop CD" is what I have now, and this one has a live OS on it
[02:58] <Hexidigital_> !diskmounter
[02:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:58] <wthww> hmmm
[02:58] <brett_tolbert> thanks
[02:58] <wthww> gatekeeper: make says it needs it...
[02:58] <Hexidigital_> brett_tolbert::  that should work for fat32 also, unless you have to enter it in your /etc/fstab file
[02:58] <makaco> buenas
[02:58] <Hexidigital_> makaco::  buenas, hablas inglais?
[02:59] <gatekeeper> wthww, what is the package you are compiling?
[02:59] <nrdb> I have just installed skype I was wondering if anyone knows how to test if skype is doing a direct connect or bouncing the call of someone elses connection?
[02:59] <propan0> could anyone help me out please... having trouble with my nvidia/monitor  log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19301   conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19304
[02:59] <wthww> fceu
[02:59] <makaco> no espaol
[02:59] <makaco> necesito ayuda
[02:59] <Hexidigital_> makaco::  vas #ubuntu-es, por favor :)
[02:59] <makaco> ok
[02:59] <Dru> yehh server install version was one I used after trying the desktop install that failed
[03:00] <inzanez> Dru: thanks :) This livecd makes me angry ;)
[03:00] <gatekeeper> wthww, right that is in the universe repos, no need to compile
[03:00] <wthww> really...
[03:00] <gatekeeper> !repos > wthww
[03:00] <wthww> k.
[03:00] <htv8> question about live cd's :P
[03:01] <htv8> i want to install ubuntu
[03:01] <gatekeeper> wthww, hence the original question of what you where trying to install
[03:01] <wthww> sorry.
[03:01] <htv8> what's the best option to do this?
[03:01] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  do you have windows installed?
[03:01] <htv8> i putted in the live cd, it started ubuntu off cd
[03:01] <htv8> yes I have
[03:01] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  and if you do, do you still need it?
[03:01] <htv8> yeah I still need it :P
[03:01] <ubuntu> yo!
[03:01] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  how much space is left on your partition?
[03:01] <wthww> does compiling /installing have any differences besides how the binary is optained?
[03:02] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  actually, first, do you know if you have dynamic disk system enabled?
[03:02] <gatekeeper> wthww, wthww might also find this usefull but non free repos need correcting
[03:02] <d2812> Does anybody else have a problem in screen where backspace doesnt work?
[03:02] <htv8> WinXP is installed on C:
[03:02] <gatekeeper> wthww, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:02] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  separate hdd?
[03:02] <htv8> available space: 58,9 GB
[03:02] <wthww> i have the universe repos :P
[03:02] <niruana> did somebody got kismet working on his Ubunut? I cant get it working :(
[03:02] <htv8> used space: 17,3 GB
[03:02] <niruana> does the new version 6.06 new wifi drivers?
[03:03] <htv8> only one HD
[03:03] <htv8> lol
[03:03] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  ubotu  will end you a private message with a link on how to do that
[03:03] <Hexidigital_> !dualboot > htv8
[03:03] <longwave> d2812: read the "quick fix" at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152474 - this should work in any version of linux
[03:03] <f3ss> 
[03:03] <d2812> longwave : cheers
[03:04] <niruana> :P
[03:04] <Hexidigital_> !rs
[03:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about rs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:04] <Hexidigital_> !ru
[03:04] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[03:04] <niruana> please someone help me
[03:04] <Hexidigital_> !anyone
[03:04] <trafiq> !edgy
[03:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:04] <trafiq> !dapper
[03:04] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[03:05] <d2812> niruana: I use 'sudo kismet -c ipw2200,eth1,centrino'
[03:05] <Hexidigital_> trafiq::  are you looking for something particular?
[03:05] <d2812> niruana: that gets kismet running for me. What card do you have?
[03:05] <gatekeeper> wthww, no you don't and lines are commented out
[03:05] <niruana> ipw2200 is your type of wifi card d2812 ?
[03:05] <trafiq> i'm looking for EE channel
[03:05] <trafiq> ;>
[03:05] <niruana> i have a D-link DWL-G650
[03:05] <Hexidigital_> trafiq::  EE?
[03:05] <trafiq> edgy ;)
[03:05] <Hexidigital_> trafiq::  #ubuntu+1
[03:05] <trafiq> yeah now i see
[03:06] <Hexidigital_> trafiq::  #ubuntu+1:)
[03:06] <Hexidigital_> whoops, on the repeat
[03:06] <trafiq> thx ;)
[03:06] <Hexidigital_> np
[03:06] <d2812> niruana : you need to replace ipw2200 with your card type. I have a centrino so thats what i need there. I 'm afraid I dont know what you'd need for a dlink
[03:07] <brett_tolbert> i ran "wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter" and "sudo bash diskmounter" and now i can access my fat32 partition from firefox by going to /media/ but the partitions icon in /places/computer still will not open, now i don't get any error message, it just doesn't do anything.
[03:08] <niruana> my chipset is a Atheros d2812
[03:08] <niruana> d2812:  i have now source=none,ath0,ATHEROS in the config
[03:08] <npster> Wich one is safer to use for instlling Xubuntu : Desktop LiveCD or Alternate ???  HELP NOW
[03:08] <geos2> 53898
[03:08] <brett_tolbert> but i can navigate to /media from root in gnome file manager and access sda2 perfectly fine so i'm happy. i would like to know why the icon doesn't work though.
[03:08] <Hexidigital_> npster::  alternate
[03:09] <npster> Thanks
[03:09] <AJTduBocal> Bonjour Mesdames, Bonjour Mesdemoiselles, Bonjour Messieurs, et bonjour ceux que j'oublie ...   :-)
[03:09] <geos2> having severe problems with 2.6.15-26 on a thinkPad x60s
[03:09] <Hexidigital_> npster::  install the basic stuff, (imo, server install), then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <geos2> anyone here have an x60(s)
[03:09] <I922sParkCir> does anyone know how to get the Network Manager to work
[03:09] <fourat> since an self-ran upgrade, my server wont print pages with cups, i setted the debug to log files and here what i got : http://pastebin.ca/108342 (I didnt knew where is the error) please can you help me ?
[03:10] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  define "severe problem"
[03:10] <AJTduBocal> bon ... j'ai du lait sur le feu ... je repasserai plus tard !
[03:10] <d2812> niruana : where you have 'none' afaik you need the card type there.
[03:11] <Hexidigital_> !fr
[03:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:11] <d2812> nuruana: i'm just trying to look it up for ya.
[03:11] <tylersmith> I want to grab a folder from one of my windows machines and put it on my DAPPER machine. I do this:  PLACES > CONNECT TO SERVER > chose SERVICE TYPE SSH > BROWSE NEIGHBORHOOD.  A window pops up and I am able to mouse to the folders I want. However, when I try to drag and drop them, an "AUTHENTICATION REQUIRED" window pops up saying "You must log in to access guist@gateway/iTunes Music". A username domain and password is requi
[03:11] <tylersmith> red. A username and domain seems to be those fill-in boxes automatically, by the password box is empty. I try my logon password... that doesn't work. WHAT WILL WORK?
[03:11] <geos2> desktop graphics including typing are slow to the point of unusable
[03:11] <htv8> hmmm found out that it's risky to partition if you've XP running on NTFS file system ...
[03:12] <Hexidigital_> tylersmith::  do you have samba installed?
[03:12] <htv8> partitioning from within the Linux installation itself
[03:12] <Hexidigital_> tylersmith::  or openssh server? (if you intend to use a SSH connection, although, i'm unfamilar with Win setup)
[03:12] <longwave> htv8: it's recommended you always make a backup before repartitioning, no matter what
[03:13] <geos2> when i use -23 the graphics are fine though
[03:13] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  do you have anything you can't back up on your win partition?
[03:13] <geos2> also fine with 2.6.17, but it is not stable...
[03:13] <Strife> does anyone have much experience with running badblocks? (through e2fsck, of course)
[03:13] <htv8> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[03:13] <htv8> thank you for this link :)
[03:13] <digitori> hi everyone, just started using ubuntu, used GNU/Linux 10 years .... hope you don't mind if i just sit back and "listen" for a while.
[03:13] <Strife> digitori: I mind! wait...
[03:14] <Hexidigital_> htv8::  if you have nothing that cannot be saved, erase your win partiton, reinstall windows and install SP2 BEFORE installing ubuntu; install ubuntu & update both OSes
[03:14] <nikin> !univers
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about univers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:14] <Hexidigital_> nikin::  forgot a letter :)
[03:14] <d2812> nuruana: try replacing none with madwifi
[03:14] <nikin> !universe
[03:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:15] <nikin> what is universe?
[03:15] <felvis> hi :)
[03:15] <geos2> Hexidigital): any thoughts?
[03:15] <nikin> i want to instal lincity-NG and it asks for universe
[03:15] <niruana> ok d2812
[03:15] <Hexidigital_> nikin::  universe is software not necessarily supported by ubuntu... it's good to enable... also check out multiverse
[03:15] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  one sec, while i look at your prob
[03:15] <nikin> kk
[03:15] <d2812> nuruana: i'm reading this page atm http://tipsybottle.com/technology/wireless/RedHat8-Kismet-HOWTO.shtml
[03:16] <J_P> hi all
[03:16] <Hexidigital_> nikin::  you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and un-comment the universe repos (they start with deb, towards the end of the file)
[03:16] <arto> anyone using ati video card now?
[03:16] <niruana> no go d2812 , thx anyway
[03:16] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  what type of graphics card
[03:16] <Hexidigital_> ?
[03:16] <geos2> intel 950
[03:16] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  laptop?
[03:17] <geos2> thinkpad x60s
[03:17] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  try sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[03:17] <d2812> niruana: im afraid thats as far as i can get ya. sorry.
[03:17] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  that helped my dell inspirion b120, and also enables the 1200x800 res
[03:17] <geos2> kde behaves slightly differently than gnome, for instance i can type without lag...
[03:18] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  are you using kde when the problem occurs?
[03:18] <gatekeeper> digitori, I have collected a few usefull links together might have some use http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[03:18] <geos2> no, it is both gnome and kde
[03:18] <arto> anybody knows how much fps should a radeon 9700 pro with fglrx output? It's saying 130 with glxgears -printfps.. Does it mean it's working properly??
[03:18] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  ok, try what i said first, and hopefully we won't hear from you until you need help w/ something else :) let me know if it dosen't work
[03:19] <geos2> ok...  i'm really desperate
[03:19] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  we're here to help:)
[03:19] <Hexidigital_> arto::  did you install the drivers?
[03:19] <CarinArr> arto that sounds very slow
[03:19] <arto> Hexidigital: Yes I did. CarinArr.. I guess so.. becaus the old ubuntu provided fglrx produced 3000 fps.
[03:20] <infinito> anyone knows if HP printer powers on automatically when printing something??
[03:20] <Hexidigital_> !ati > arto
[03:20] <SeraVitae> infinito - uh, no.
[03:20] <nikin> infinito leaser?
[03:20] <Hexidigital_> arto::  you may need to reinstall the drivers, or reedit your xorg file
[03:20] <SeraVitae> no printer i know turns on by itself. that's creepy.
[03:21] <Hexidigital_> !usenames
[03:21] <ubotu> Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[03:21] <CarinArr> arto, i get 1000 fps with a 3 year old nvidia laptop card
[03:21] <CarinArr> arto, the sort of fps you're talking sounds like no hw support at all
[03:21] <infinito> SeraVitae, when i was using debian long ago, hplip software powered on the printer... but not in ubuntu...
[03:21] <SeraVitae> ...that's exactly why i don't use hp anymore >.>
[03:21] <arto> Hexidigital: I have made the procedures all correctly.. even the fglrxinfo gives the right output. But fps.. is low this time. I think I will reinstall the old ubuntu fglrx xorg drivers.
[03:22] <Hexidigital_> arto::  i have no ATI experience under my belt, unfortunately
[03:22] <arto> CarinArr, right. However, I am not so happy that the universe/multiver reposes do not include the latest fglrx drivers precompiled.
[03:22] <arto> Hexidigital, because you are lucky.
[03:23] <Hexidigital_> arto::  i use nVidia :)
[03:23] <arto> Hexidigital, right choice! ;) bit more expensive, but worth it.
[03:23] <CarinArr> arto, couldn't tell you anything about the ati driver stuff as i use nvidia cards across the board
[03:23] <nikin> !lincity
[03:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about lincity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <nikin> !xlincity
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about xlincity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <xbehave> are there any items for pannels that show temperatures (i have lm-sensors installed), does it matter if im using xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[03:24] <nikin> where can i setup hardware acceleration?
[03:24] <TomB> What is the Ubuntu page with all the help about non-free multimedia formats?
[03:24] <xbehave> !codecs
[03:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:25] <TomB> thanks :)
[03:25] <Hexidigital_> arto::  heh.. .i haven't bought a video card in 2 years... my latest was a MX5500... and, i use it on my server, with no GUI :(
[03:25] <arto> Hexidigital, with no gui? waaw.. you're a good typist.
[03:26] <Hexidigital_> arto::  heh... i only do test servers, until i graduate college :)
[03:26] <Hexidigital_> arto::  i'm still quite a n00b in the 'large scale'
[03:26] <nikin> where can i set up the 3D accel?
[03:27] <arto> Hexidigital: Actually me too. But I want to get advanced in linux.. I am only sad I wasted much time learning the easiest os in the world = XP.
[03:27] <CarinArr> nikin, what type of card do you have?
[03:27] <nikin> arto: dont be sad, i had that to, i think if you want to work in this biz, you cant avoid knowing XP good
[03:27] <Hexidigital_> arto::  welcome to the club :)  i was just happy when i got my broadcom drivers to work on my laptop, so i can connect to the college WLAN
[03:28] <Hexidigital_> arto::  i agree with nikin  because all of the big companies still refuse to grow up :)
[03:28] <geos2> Hexidigital_: 915resolution didn't do anything, still slow desktop graphics
[03:28] <SeraVitae> lol really dumbarse question but, what's the ls argument for the equivilant of dir /s ? :P
[03:28] <niruana> does ubuntu have the madwifi drivers installed automatic??
[03:28] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  interesting... ok, lemme do some searching
[03:28] <dmsantam> SeraVitae, i don't know what dir /s is :)
[03:28] <nikin> niruana.. not
[03:28] <dmsantam> seraphim, man ls
[03:28] <geos2> i've filed bug #53898 with no response...
[03:28] <dmsantam> !man ls
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about man ls - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:29] <dmsantam> !man
[03:29] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[03:29] <SeraVitae> Just searches within subdirectories as well
[03:29] <arto> nikin: I am not experienced in the business world.. but probably you're right. I hope linux is getting a new trend with Ubuntu anyway.
[03:29] <dmsantam> SeraVitae, ls -R
[03:29] <SeraVitae> ah, tah.
[03:29] <dmsantam> SeraVitae, -R stands for recursive :)
[03:30] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  i found this thread.. hopefully it will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224484
[03:30] <CarinArr> heh
[03:30] <nikin> arto: you know, until the users on ECDL just learn M$-shit (Win, Office) the companys will use theese softwares coz, they cant afford to teach every user
[03:31] <Awesome-o2000> ECDL?
[03:31] <nikin> i have once worked for a little company (7 workers)
[03:31] <arto> nikin: ECDL ??
[03:31] <nikin> and i had to install linux there
[03:31] <Hexidigital_> nikin::  ms talk should be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic to avoid making the ops mad... (although, i agree with you)
[03:31] <nikin> Europian Computer Driving License
[03:32] <nikin> there is sure something like this in the US to
[03:32] <Awesome-o2000> i have yet to meet a decent driver with an international drivers license
[03:32] <CarinArr> does anyone actually get those licences?
[03:32] <arto> sorry guys, I gtg now. Nice talking.
[03:32] <Hexidigital_> CarinArr::  i'm working on my MCSE currently
[03:33] <dmsantam> MCSE is a load of crap. pointless
[03:33] <Hexidigital_> dmsantam::  heh... imageine how i feel :)
[03:33] <CarinArr> Hexidigital_, i meant the "computer driving licence" malarky
[03:33] <micahcowan> dmsantam, don't knock it. Even if, educationally, it's worth it, it can actually get jobs (I don't have it, don't plan to).
[03:33] <Hexidigital_> CarinArr::  ah
[03:33] <micahcowan> *educationally, it's not worth it, ...
[03:34] <dmsantam> micahcowan, possibly. i don't know whether it still gets jobs.
[03:34] <dmsantam> micahcowan, but yes, its certainly educationally pointless :)
[03:34] <CarinArr> it's still listed on plenty a job description
[03:34] <Hexidigital_> dmsantam::  last i checked (in my area) it does, but very little
[03:34] <micahcowan> dmsantam, it may not as much as it used to... but I believe it does, in some circles.
[03:34] <Strife> does anyone have experience correcting filesystems with errors?
[03:34] <dmsantam> Strife, fsck does
[03:34] <dmsantam> :)
[03:34] <CarinArr> but then you never really know how much of it is there cause it's always been there
[03:34] <micahcowan> ... they tend not to be the type of jobs I pursue... :)
[03:34] <nikin> Carin: a lot of people
[03:34] <jacek> konskie spierdolin
[03:35] <dmsantam> Strife, use fsck -a to start
[03:35] <nikin> Carin: they have to get these coz other they dont get work
[03:35] <CarinArr> i don't pursue jobs at all, i'm the perpetual academic
[03:35] <Strife> dmsantam: right, except that everytime I run e2fsck it keeps telling me the fs has errors
[03:35] <frogzoo> Strife: if fsck -a can't fix it, you're in deep doodoo
[03:35] <keNzi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/A41fyi77.html
[03:35] <keNzi> anyone got an idea ?
[03:35] <dmsantam> Strife, you tried fsck -a? what is the output
[03:35] <Hexidigital_> nikin::  that's why i'm studying for my Net+ and Linux+, as well as random programming classes in college
[03:36] <Strife> dmsantam: I don't even know what the -a option is... I am using e2fsck besides
[03:36] <dmsantam> Strife, fsck -a
[03:36] <dmsantam> Strife, try it please
[03:36] <Strife> dmsantam: I'm not running that without knowing what it does
[03:36] <dmsantam> man fsck
[03:36] <dmsantam> its the same as e2fsck -a
[03:36] <Strife> yeah, looking through it
[03:36] <micahcowan> Heh. keNzi, are you linking it with the same setup you're compiling it with?
[03:37] <samalex> Does Ubuntu install okay on a dual processor system?  IN the past when I ran Red Hat on this system (dual P3-1Ghz) it would work fine with SMP enabled in the kernel during installation, but other distros (SuSE and Slackware specifically) always choked.  Just curious if anyone has ran into problems installing or using Ubuntu with SMP enabled.
[03:37] <CarinArr> kenZi, er.. it's trying to use an undeclared variable by the looks of it
[03:37] <spaps_> Hi, can someone please type a utf-8 smiley i am looking for.. its like an arabian character that looks almost like "=)"
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> ompaul::  morning
[03:37] <Strife> dmsantam: it's the same as e2fsck -p, actually
[03:37] <Strife> dmsantam: but I don't really know what "preen" means
[03:37] <dmsantam> Strife, e2fsck has -a but its deprecated
[03:37] <ompaul> Hexidigital, 'lo
[03:37] <micahcowan> CarinArr: not an undeclared variable, an implicitly declared variable used by GCC, but in rather recent versions AIUI.
[03:37] <frogzoo> Strife: unless you really understand the ext2 file system, that's your only real option
[03:37] <dmsantam> please read man fsck, convince yourself that the -a option is not bad, and then run fsck -a
[03:37] <nikin> how can i set up 3D aceleration?
[03:37] <xbehave> im having a slight samalex im not sure but id use the install cd incase
[03:37] <spaps_> ive seen it here before :>
[03:37] <fourat> since an self-ran upgrade, my server wont print pages with cups, i setted the debug to log files and here what i got : http://pastebin.ca/108342 (I didnt knew where is the error) please can you help me ?
[03:37] <simarillion>  has somebody of you ati radeon mobility 9000
[03:37] <CarinArr> micahcowan, or that;)
[03:38] <dmsantam> simarillion, ATI is evil
[03:38] <dmsantam> :)
[03:38] <geos2> Hexidigital_: the thread you linked said to comment out the DRI mode at the end of xorg.conf, did nothing... arg.
[03:38] <frogzoo> nikin: which vid card?
[03:38] <simarillion> I know
[03:38] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  :(
[03:38] <Strife> 08:37 < dmsantam> please read man fsck, convince yourself that the -a option is not bad, and then run fsck -a <-- I'm not convinced, because the manpage doesn't fully explain to me what it will do
[03:38] <frogzoo> simarillion: 9700, same same
[03:38] <nikin> Inel Extreme G2
[03:38] <nikin> Intel
[03:38] <nikin> sorry
[03:38] <Hexidigital_> geos2::  nikin  is having an acceleration problem too
[03:38] <dmsantam> Strife, then go off and read something that will convince you that it isn't bad. coz you clearly don't believe me
[03:38] <frogzoo> !intel
[03:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:38] <micahcowan> keNzi: the first few lines of your paste don't look quite right too me, can you give us a paste of the actual, literal commands you're using to compile, and to link?
[03:39] <dmsantam> Strife, once you're convinced, and you've run it, and it doesn't work (if it doesn't rather), then come back and paste the output
[03:39] <Hexidigital_> frogzoo::  any ideas for an intel chipset graphics card?
[03:39] <simarillion> which driver u use?? Which installation method??
[03:39] <keNzi> micahcowan->
[03:39] <Strife> dmsantam: I have been looking for information, but I haven't found any yet... if you happen to have a link handy that would explain to me what it does, I'd appreciate it
[03:39] <Hexidigital_> !intel graphics
[03:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel graphics - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:39] <keNzi> i did - make && make modules_install
[03:39] <frogzoo> Hexidigital_: zip, soz dude
[03:39] <Hexidigital_> frogzoo::  it was for the two people having problems... thx anyway :)
[03:39] <keNzi> im trying to compile new kernel in ee
[03:39] <nikin> !intel
[03:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:40] <colmmacc> anyone know of any delay with updates to the mirrors from the archives?
[03:40] <geos2> what's weird is that i can type in KDE but gnome is totally lagged, like right now 300 baud old school
[03:40] <Awesome-o2000> geos2, thou hast borked thy install
[03:40] <xbehave> im having a slight problem following a tutorial, if the file /etc/modprobe.d/local isnt there when im following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto what should i do?
[03:41] <dmsantam> keNzi, you should use make-kpkg to build a kernel on a debian (or ubuntu) system
[03:41] <geos2> this is my third install
[03:41] <dmsantam> keNzi, apt-get install kernel-package. then check out the README.gz file in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package
[03:41] <Hexidigital_> keNzi::  make-dpkg
[03:41] <longwave> xbehave: if you read on a bit further, it says "I found that there was no "/etc/modprobe.d/local" and that "alias char-major-89 i2c-dev" was already listed in "/etc/modprobe.d/aliases". So, nothing to do here." so check if that applies to you
[03:41] <xbehave> gesos2 have u tried failsafe gnome
[03:41] <dmsantam> xbehave, create it?
[03:41] <keNzi> thanx
[03:42] <micahcowan> keNzi, hm... I suspect #ubuntu-devel will have a better idea what's going on... I'm pretty sure there were recent changes to that part of GCC. You're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild, right?
[03:42] <xbehave> o rite soz i panicd when there was no file thanks
[03:42] <geos2> no, i don't think i have...tried failsafe, what would that tell me?
[03:42] <nakeee> is ubuntu net install failing (screen get stuck after base ) a known problem?
[03:42] <darsha_> anyone here familiar with running ubuntu on PowerBook G4 as dual boot?
[03:42] <keNzi> i wasnt follow any howtos
[03:43] <frogzoo> !wiki
[03:43] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:43] <dmsantam> darsha_, what's the question? somebody may know. i once ran debian on an ibook dual boot
[03:43] <dmsantam> darsha_, that was a couple of years back though :)
[03:44] <frogzoo> xbehave: you could be really rash & create the file
[03:44] <darsha_> dmsantam, well, it seems as though I have lost the ability to choose to boot into linux upon startup
[03:45] <xbehave> nah longwave was right it ran fine i should of just kept reading
[03:45] <dmsantam> darsha_, well, boot from the live cd, and install grub again
[03:45] <darsha_> dmsantam: I think it is a problem with auto updates in OSX
[03:45] <dmsantam> darsha_, you're quite likely right
[03:45] <geos2> anyone using a ThinkPad x60(s)?
[03:45] <dmsantam> darsha_, use the live cd. then grub-install hd0
[03:45] <dmsantam> geos2, no, but i'd like one :)
[03:46] <darsha_> dmsantam: I am tihnking I might need to back some stuff up on my osx before I do this?
[03:46] <dmsantam> darsha_, nah
[03:46] <imperfect-> anyone here used ubuntu on PPC with a ADC connected monitor?
[03:46] <dmsantam> darsha_, well, if you are paranoid :)
[03:46] <darsha_> dmsantam: sometimes I am paranoid
[03:46] <dmsantam> darsha_, then backup :)
[03:46] <DoctorMO> has anyone got SATA or SCSI hard drives/optical drives?
[03:46] <xbehave> geos2 im not sure it would tell you that gnome can work or something? if it runs fine with failsafe but still lags then youll know the problem is in the settings for gnome
[03:46] <eternal> Hi there - I'm currently downloading the iso of 6.06 for i386, which i want to install over ethernet to a pc that's next to me
[03:46] <Strife> DoctorMO: my laptop does
[03:46] <darsha_> dmsantam: thanks...I will let you know how this goes : )
[03:47] <dmsantam> darsha_, you're welcome :)
[03:47] <geos2> i'll repeat my plea for help: desktop graphics is unusably slow on my x60s: i950
[03:47] <frogzoo> DoctorMO: no - there's only 800 people in this channel, & that's pretty exotic hardware ;)
[03:47] <DoctorMO> Strife, do you mind running a program for me and sending me the results back?
[03:47] <eternal> Hi there - I'm currently downloading the iso of 6.06 for i386, which i want to install over ethernet to a pc that's next to me, is this possible or will i need to burn a copy of the iso?
[03:47] <Strife> DoctorMO: I don't have my laptop handy
[03:47] <DoctorMO> Ah ok
[03:47] <Strife> what's the program do though?
[03:48] <tengil> what can cause ssh to be very slow to connect to one of my internal boxes but quick between the rest?
[03:48] <DoctorMO> It makes a HAL listing, every device and every property, so I can make sure my hardware report program can cope with hardware I don't have
[03:48] <xbehave> !mouse
[03:48] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:48] <longwave> tengil: problems resolving reverse DNS?
[03:48] <dragon> hi
[03:48] <frogzoo> tengil: 9/10 it's dns
[03:48] <tengil> longwave: its just internal ip like 192.168.0.11
[03:48] <dmsantam> dragon, welcome south australian :)
[03:48] <DoctorMO> frogzoo, 800 people in this channel and no takers :-P
[03:48] <zsh> is there a way of installing xubuntu using the desktop cd without starting the gui? it is sooooo slow...
[03:48] <dragon> thanx :P
[03:48] <frogzoo> DoctorMO: dude, that sux
[03:48] <longwave> tengil: yeah, the ssh server is doing a reverse lookup for 192.168.0.11, but it won't get an answer so it has to wait for the timeout
[03:48] <xcyborg> tengil: you might have a DNS server set that doesn't respond
[03:49] <xcyborg> tengil: verify that the DNS servers defined on that box are up
[03:49] <tengil> but why does it work so quickly for 192.168.0.10 then?
[03:49] <tengil> im not really running any dns servers...
[03:49] <frogzoo> tengil: entry in /etc/hosts ?
[03:49] <dragon> what protection does ubuntu have to stop hackers
[03:49] <micahcowan> tengil, it may or may not help, but you might compare the results of ssh -vvv for the different hosts, and especially, see where it seems to be taking it's time.
[03:49] <frogzoo> dragon: it runs on linux :)
[03:49] <zsh> anyone,please?
[03:50] <dragon> oh lol
[03:50] <wheelswitch> zsh no
[03:50] <longwave> tengil: you can try putting "UseDNS no" in the sshd_config, that might speed it up
[03:50] <wheelswitch> you need alternate cd
[03:50] <xcyborg> tengil: compare the /etc/resolv.conf files on the hosts
[03:50] <gatekeeper> zsh, alternative cd runs a text installer
[03:50] <frogzoo> dragon: also, security updates are quickly released as necessary
[03:50] <dmsantam> zsh, afaik, the answer is no
[03:50] <dragon> ok koolies
[03:50] <tengil> xcyborg: on the both internal ones?
[03:50] <geos2> zsh: use the alternate cd
[03:51] <zsh> thank you all. it seems i have to download for another 18 hours :(
[03:51] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! is there a way in dapper to limit the internet band the pc can use? thank you!
[03:51] <Strife> I really think that a netinstall image should exist... if it doesn't already
[03:52] <xcyborg> tengil: yes, when trying to connect from A to B, the B host might try to resolve the address of A, if it cannot contact the DNS server it might take a while to establish the ssh connection
[03:52] <frogzoo> !iptables > paolob-parroquia
[03:52] <Strife> it kinda annoys me that even the "alternate" install is a full cd image
[03:52] <dragon> does ubuntu come with a music shareing program?>
[03:52] <longwave> tengil: also take a look at http://www.openssh.com/faq.html#3.3
[03:52] <nakeee> Strife, it does, but it's buggy
[03:52] <zsh> it says on the xubuntu website that 128mb should be enough to install but its too slow to be practical.
[03:52] <dragon> or is there a recomended 1
[03:52] <dragon> im using 5.04:(
[03:52] <geos2> zsh: what are you running on?
[03:52] <zsh> they should change that to 256 or 512
[03:52] <nakeee> Strife, I just tried installing with it for 2 days now and it keep getting stuck
[03:52] <nakeee> Strife, blue screen of death:)
[03:52] <msyg|sleepy> lol
[03:52] <zsh> intel p3 800MHZ, 128mb
[03:53] <tengil> ok /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf looks the same on both my internal mahcines
[03:53] <zsh> geos2
[03:53] <frogzoo> tengil: but maybe .10 has an entry, and .9 doesn't ?
[03:53] <dragon> i got 1.8 ghz 1 gig ram
[03:53] <tengil> frogzoo: neither does
[03:53] <longwave> tengil: or it may be that .10 has been cached as having no reverse entry and .9 wasn't when you tried, or something like that
[03:53] <dragon> tdun take me long at all
[03:54] <Strife> dmsantam: ok, I ran e2fsck -p despite still not finding out what it really does... see http://main.zgib.net/~mvd/fsck-error
[03:54] <geos2> xubuntu should be usuable, but you'll page like mad if you use any user app even firefox
[03:54] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> August issue of Linux User magazine has a feature on Dapper Drake and a DVD of it too :) Just thought I'd share.
[03:54] <paolob-parroquia> frogzoo, is shorewall web interface included in shorewall package?
[03:54] <dmsantam> samuel_, what about it
[03:54] <tengil> i cant open that url unfortunately either
[03:55] <longwave> Strife: run it again without -p, it has questions to ask you that are not safe to assume the answers to (which is what -p does)
[03:55] <eternal> Hi there - I'm currently downloading the iso of 6.06 for i386, which i want to install over ethernet to a pc that's next to me, is this possible or will i need to burn a copy of the iso?
[03:55] <keleus> Is there a way to install using the old fashioned installer that actually asked you questions?
[03:55] <nakeee> great the help tells me to add expert in the boot prompt
[03:55] <nakeee> but I don't have a boot prompt
[03:55] <Strife> longwave: yes, I have done that I-don't-know-how-many-times, and I still have errors
[03:55] <geos2> zsh: actually, i take that back, firefox should be usuable too...
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> eternal: you need to burn a copy of it.
[03:55] <eternal> bugger ok
[03:55] <erUSUL> paolob-parroquia: iirci i think that it is a webmin module
[03:55] <longwave> Strife: is it possible your disk has bad blocks and is irrepairable?
[03:55] <Strife> longwave: I'm guessing that this all means that my hard drive has gone bad, even though I've had it for less than a year...
[03:55] <geos2> keleus: use alternate cd, text installer...
[03:55] <keleus> Strife: Western Digital i bet
[03:56] <Ky0n0> can someone tell me some good game like et, cod, unreal??
[03:56] <dmsantam> Strife, looks like it. and you tried "e2fsck" without any options?
[03:56] <Strife> longwave: yes, quite possible... coincidentally, I was trying to run e2fsck with badblocks, but that was taking > 12 hours, so I stopped it
[03:56] <Strife> dmsantam: yes
[03:56] <geos2> help me! dekstop graphics is unusably slow on my thinkpad x60s
[03:56] <dmsantam> Strife, what was its output?
[03:56] <frogzoo> Strife: maybe try again, but selecting a backup superblock ?
[03:56] <longwave> Strife: it took me over 30 hours to run badblocks on a 200gb drive
[03:56] <Strife> keleus: no, seagate... I've *never* had problems with WDs... in fact my other drive is a WD
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> geos2: install/enable accelerated drivers for your laptop (I believe it has an intel-based graphics adapter).
[03:56] <longwave> Strife: you might want to download the ultimate boot cd (www.ultimatebootcd.com) and try the disk diagnostics for your drive manufacturer
[03:56] <Strife> longwave: hmm, so that should be expected then?
[03:56] <keleus> Strife: well that's interesting... ive never had an issue with seagate, but WD...
[03:56] <dmsantam> !webmin
[03:56] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:56] <geos2> it is enabled, from glxinfo...
[03:56] <longwave> Strife: yes, badblocks takes a very, very long time to run if you have a large disk
[03:57] <keleus> anyways....
[03:57] <Russel> hiho
[03:57] <Ky0n0> can someone tell me some good game like et, cod, unreal??
[03:57] <sudomania4> what package provides mp3 support?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> geos2: what does it say in glxinfo?
[03:57] <paolob-parroquia> erUSUL, apt cache search doesn't see any webmin package, why?
[03:57] <keleus> is Ubiquity the only way to install from the LiveCD? Is there any way to use the old style curses-based installer?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > sudomania4
[03:57] <dmsantam> paolob-parroquia, webmin is not part of ubuntu
[03:57] <longwave> keleus: download the alternate install cd
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> keleus: from the alternate install cd, you get the old installer.
[03:57] <keleus> !restricted
[03:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:57] <nakeee> oh well back to other dists
[03:57] <paolob-parroquia> dmsantam, :-(
[03:57] <Russel> how can i enable to start another xserver on :1.0?
[03:57] <dmsantam> !webmin
[03:57] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> Russel: xinit/
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> ?
[03:58] <keleus> You mean i have to download another ISO? thats whacked... how could that installer take up much space?
[03:58] <Ky0n0> can someone tell me some good game like et, cod, unreal??
[03:58] <Russel> fyrestrtr: no, complains about permissions... already followed the howto and have the right things in xauth
[03:58] <keleus> ET, COD, UNREAL
[03:58] <Strife> sigh... I guess I will just have to start over with running badblocks
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> Russel: how are you running it?
[03:58] <Strife> I don't know if it will even help, though
[03:59] <Russel> i try: startx /usr/bin/xterm -- :1 -layout glxlayout    error: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[03:59] <DoctorMO> Ky0n0, a shoot em up?
[03:59] <keleus> is it POSSIBLE to get ubiquity to install from mirrors instead of the livecd?
[03:59] <geos2> fyrestrtr: what do you want to know from glxinfo -v?
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> Russel: are you typing that from within X?
[03:59] <Russel> jep
[03:59] <Russel> it should work (worked in gentoo all the time)
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> Russel: you need to launch it from a non-X console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[04:00] <micahcowan> Ky0n0: I still play quake2 often enough... Quake4 and Doom4 are both available natively for Linux...
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> Russel: this is not gentoo :)
[04:00] <Adam_G> hi, I'm wondering where I can define keyboard combos to run commands?
[04:00] <Russel> but it is the same xserver
[04:00] <keleus> ARG
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> geos2: what does it say is the render provider?
[04:00] <keleus> i have distro fever
[04:00] <keleus> i cant figure out which one to use now.
[04:00] <zsh> geos2, i thot xubuntu would perform better than windows
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> Russel: it has to do with how permissions are set in ubuntu vs. gentoo
[04:00] <zsh> geos2, i run windows xp just fine
[04:01] <Russel> in the howto there was something about reconfigure a package, but the package mentioned does not exist
[04:01] <geos2> fyrstrtr: MESA GLX Indirect?
[04:01] <Russel> xserver-common
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> geos2: you are not using accelerated drivers then.
[04:01] <Russel> something, that edits /etx/X11/Xwrapper.config
[04:01] <geos2> zsh: that's surprising on 128mb...
[04:01] <DoctorMO> zsh: what was your problem?
[04:01] <frogzoo> Adam_G: open gnome editor -> apps -> metacity -> global keybindings
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> Russel: what howto?
[04:01] <Ky0n0> micahcowan thx, another game?
[04:01] <geos2> fyrestrtr: oh, how do i enable them?
[04:02] <Russel> wait a moment
[04:02] <tengil> do i have to restart anyting after making changes to /etc/hosts?
[04:02] <zsh> DoctorMO, the install on xubuntu desktop cd is too slow
[04:02] <fyrestrtr> geos2: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[04:02] <Russel> ahh got it
[04:02] <Adam_G> frogzoo, thank you
[04:02] <Russel> looked in that file and there stands the new dpkg-reconfigure command
[04:02] <frogzoo> tengil: don't think so
[04:02] <XXS> hello :) with wiki.ubuntuusers.de i tried to install rar (on ubuntu 5.10). now when i wanna unpack an archive it says "unrar: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object or file: No such file or directory" ... what to do now? :(
[04:02] <longwave> tengil: no, you shouldn't. "ping hostname" where host is a name you added to /etc/hosts to check
[04:02] <roryyy48> hy everybody
[04:02] <frogzoo> Adam_G: yw
[04:02] <DoctorMO> zsh: your comparing a modern OS to a 5 year old OS, I'm suprised XP needed 256MB of RAM but you could do with more to be honest
[04:03] <micahcowan> Ky0n0: FPSs?
[04:03] <DoctorMO> micahcowan, Frames per second
[04:03] <Adam_G> frogzoo, one more... where's gnome editor? :P
[04:03] <jmspeex> Is there any way to turn a normal bug report into a "security" one?
[04:03] <roryyy48> do anyone know something about ubuntu classroom?
[04:03] <longwave> XXS: install the "libstdc++5" package
[04:03] <micahcowan> DoctorMO, no: First-Person Shooters. :)
[04:03] <johnnyGizmo> I am trying ubuntu server for the first time, but am having trouble getting qpopper to work, I installed the package and restarted but I still cannot telnet locally to port 110 any ideas?
[04:03] <Ky0n0> micahcowan, yes something like it
[04:03] <frogzoo> zsh: xubuntu DOES perform better than doze...
[04:03] <DoctorMO> micahcowan, you cant have that TLA, I'm sending round the TLA police
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> johnnyGizmo: is it running?
[04:04] <frogzoo> jmspeex: umm... open a new bug??
[04:04] <johnnyGizmo> it is in inetd.conf
[04:04] <micahcowan> DoctorMO, :)
[04:04] <BazziR> frogzoo: problem is that those two are not comparable
[04:04] <profoX`> What's the name of that binary newsleecher that works as a daemon ? that automatically fixes par2 etc ? something-nzbd or something like that..?
[04:04] <zsh> DoctorMO, xubuntu is specifically for low end machines. if i had more ram it wouldnt be a low end machine
[04:04] <longwave> johnnyGizmo: is there any useful output in /var/log ?
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> johnnyGizmo: well, that doesn't mean its started.
[04:04] <zsh> frogzoo, the install doesnt
[04:04] <longwave> profoX`: hellanzb?
[04:04] <johnnyGizmo> fyrestrtr: true
[04:04] <johnnyGizmo> longwave: I'll check
[04:04] <profoX`> longwave: i thought it was something else..
[04:05] <DoctorMO> zsh: perhaps the install is not running xfc, and perhaps you should try a command line install it would be quite fast I think.
[04:05] <micahcowan> Ky0n0: I'm not insanely big on 'em myself... I understand Cube is popular. To be honest, games is what I still keep WinXP around for :)
[04:05] <longwave> profoX`: there is also nzbget but that doesn't do auto-par2 or anything
[04:05] <profoX`> longwave: not hellanzb it was something else
[04:05] <longwave> profoX`: SABnzbd?
[04:05] <micahcowan> Ky0n0: However, Wine (and especially, Cedega) can run many Windows games fairly decently.
[04:05] <profoX`> longwave: yea that was it
[04:05] <zsh> DoctorMO, i thot so too but it turns out i cant do a command line install using the desktop cd.
[04:05] <frogzoo> !appdb
[04:05] <ubotu> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[04:05] <profoX`> longwave: is hellanzb better than sabnzbd?
[04:06] <roryyy48> #kubuntu
[04:06] <seagulltheme> could someone walk me through mounting a partition so that i can access it from my home folder?
[04:06] <johnnyGizmo> longwave: nothing in var/log except the install stuff
[04:06] <zsh> DoctorMO, everyone here thinks i should get the alternate cd
[04:06] <Ky0n0> micahcowan,  yes i have cedega, but i want to play some game like et etc..
[04:06] <DoctorMO> zsh: hmm, are you installing a lot of machines?
[04:06] <johnnyGizmo> so it must not be getting run
[04:06] <longwave> profoX`: i dont know, really - if you're used to sabnzbd i'd just use that :)
[04:06] <profoX`> i'm not ;)
[04:06] <zsh> DoctorMO, no, just one
[04:06] <DoctorMO> zsh: can you wait for the normal install to finish?
[04:06] <profoX`> longwave: but someone asked me a good newsleecher, and I knew that one was very good :)
[04:06] <jmspeex> frogzoo: OK, thanks
[04:07] <geos2> firestrtr: ok, i forgot i disabled it following some bogus forum thread... not it is enabled, and anyone this is 2d graphics
[04:07] <micahcowan> Ky0n0: probably, you should be able to play et, etc. More than that, you'll have to look it up on Cedega's games database to find out how well it's supported...
[04:07] <longwave> profoX`: sabnzbd is the only web-based one, for hellanzb you drop the .nzb files into a folder on the filesystem and it processes them, that's the main difference i guess
[04:07] <profoX`> longwave: oh..l
[04:07] <profoX`> k
[04:07] <Ky0n0> micahcowan, kk thx
[04:08] <geos2> A Plea for Help!: 2d graphics is unusably slow on my ThinkPad x60s...
[04:08] <profoX`> longwave: thx :)
[04:08] <zsh> DoctorMO, it took 15 minutes just to start the install script, and it kept freezing. if it will take less than the 18 hours i have to wait to download the alternate cd then i have no problem
[04:09] <DoctorMO> zsh: thats the spirit! rember to be pragmatic
[04:10] <tengil> in all the hosts files i now have two entries like 192.168.0.10 kevlar. should i have one for the particular box the hosts file is on as well.
[04:10] <tengil> like i have two internal and one router. should i have the 192.168.0.x address for all three of them in every hosts file or just the two "other" boxes?
[04:10] <longwave> tengil: yes, you might as well have all three hosts files the same
[04:10] <anosa> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1: field name `rakter' must be followed by colon, >> any step to solve the problem???
[04:11] <longwave> then it is easier to update if you add another machine or change an ip address :)
[04:11] <Balachmar> Hi, I am trying to get Beagle to work, but it keeps hanging on some file
[04:11] <Balachmar> I have seen a bug report about this as well
[04:11] <ajay> richiefrich: hi!
[04:11] <tengil> longwave: i noticed now that the problem only exists between one of the internal boxes and the router and back with ssh. the other box has no problem with either of them
[04:11] <zsh> DoctorMO, they should name the desktop cd, live cd and the alternate cd, installation cd so that there is no confusion
[04:11] <Balachmar> But it doesn't say how to fix it
[04:11] <mcphail> Balachmar: Beagle is a pain.
[04:12] <zsh> there are lots of people on the xubuntu channel who had the same problem
[04:13] <johnnyGizmo> is inetd even installed by default?
[04:14] <Adam_G> I saw a package once for "desktop wrapping" in gnome, a-la xfce, where you move the mouse off the side of one workspace to move to the next... anyone know what it is?
[04:14] <avalost> hmm, what would keep apt-get from installing linux-image-686 and linux-restricted-modules?
[04:14] <avalost> just did "upgrade" and apt-get states it is keeping the linux image and restricted modules back
[04:15] <tengil> ok now it works cool
[04:15] <GUARDiAN|nb> is it somehow possible to arrange the desktop-icons in rtl-direction instead of ltr?
[04:15] <longwave> avalost: "apt-get dist-upgrade" should resolve that for you and install the newer versions along with any dependencies
[04:16] <longwave> avalost: though that may mean removing some packages so beware before you say Yes to the install question!
[04:16] <geos2> help! anyone using a x60(s)?
[04:16] <avalost> longwave: I had thought about that but I am already using dapper, I have never had that occur on linux-image before only on other apps
[04:16] <rarj> What command in Linux is equivalent to netstat in windows ?
[04:16] <avalost> rarj: netstat
[04:17] <DoctorMO> zsh: I managed to install from the 'live cd'
[04:17] <DoctorMO> zsh: and it would mean I'd have to create a bunch more alternate CD labels and I don't want to do thatr
[04:17] <rarj> avalost, thanks
[04:17] <avalost> np
[04:17] <micahcowan> rarj, it's part of the package, net-tools, on the off-chance you don't have it.
[04:17] <zsh> DoctorMO, how much ram do you have
[04:18] <avalost> i'll just run synaptic and see if that resolves it
[04:18] <longwave> avalost: try dist-upgrade anyway, it will tell you if it is going to remove anything first
[04:18] <avis> avalost just install linux-686 and it will install the kernel and modules you need once the uni/multiverse is enabled and updated.
[04:18] <DoctorMO> zsh: laptop, desktop or server? 1GB, 512MB and 2GB respectivly
[04:18] <avis> people already want to try edgy ??
[04:18] <DoctorMO> zsh: I had to make sure all the ubuntu machines I make come with 512 at least,
[04:19] <avis> we just started with dapper !
[04:19] <iwilcox> Is there a channel for edgy?
[04:19] <Balachmar> ubuntu+1
[04:19] <zsh> DoctorMO, i'm running an intel p3 800mhz with 128mb ram
[04:19] <longwave> iwilcox: #ubuntu+1
[04:19] <iwilcox> Ah, cheers.
[04:19] <iwilcox> (both{
[04:19] <Balachmar> welcome
[04:19] <avis> zsh whatcha runnin ?
[04:19] <avis> under those specs
[04:20] <zsh> avis, i'm trying to install xubuntu
[04:20] <DoctorMO> zsh: what kind of RAM does it take?
[04:20] <avalost> zsh: that is plenty
[04:20] <fourat> since an self-ran upgrade, my server wont print pages with cups, i setted the debug to log files and here what i got : http://pastebin.ca/108342 (I didnt knew where is the error) please can you help me ?
[04:20] <avis> ahh ok well the alternate cd will be able to that for you.. its text based.  128 megs of ram should be enough
[04:20] <zsh> avalost, thats what i thot but the install is sooooo slow
[04:20] <avalost> I have run gnome, kde, e17, fluxbox and a handfull of others on a celeron 533mhz with 256 mb ram
[04:21] <zsh> DoctorMO, i dunno, i'd have to check
[04:21] <DoctorMO> zsh: are you in the UK?
[04:21] <zsh> avalost, it keeps freezing.
[04:21] <avis> avalost i think you mean 533fsb ??  thats usually what the celeron d's are clocked at.
[04:21] <avalost> zsh: odd, did you checksum the cd?
[04:21] <zsh> DoctorMO, no, i'm in ur former colony, Kenya :)
[04:21] <avalost> no a 533mhz celeron
[04:21] <dmsantam> Kenya?
[04:22] <avalost> this machine is from the late 90's
[04:22] <DoctorMO> zsh: well I never! tea time shortly what what
[04:22] <avis> oh i see
[04:22] <zsh> avalost, no should i
[04:22] <nalioth_> !verify > zsh
[04:22] <rarj> micahcowan, thanks :D
[04:22] <avalost> zsh; well when you burn a distro you should always checksum it
[04:22] <nalioth_> zsh: check your PMs, and burn it at less than 4x
[04:22] <micahcowan> rarj, you're welcome :)
[04:22] <geos2> zsh: you might check the logging of the install to see why it is freezing... ctrl-alt-f1
[04:22] <DoctorMO> zsh: I tend to have ram kicking around here and there, if you have the right kind I'll send you some out (if I have it that is)
[04:23] <avis> i burn distro, get error, checksum it, find out - - OK, then mistake was mine in paritioning :)
[04:23] <steven> Can you install Synaptic on a a KDE machine?
[04:23] <avis> yes steven
[04:23] <zsh> DoctorMO, ok, thanks :)
[04:23] <imperfect-> I want my apple display to work!
[04:23] <DoctorMO> zsh: doctormo@gmail.com
[04:23] <imperfect-> makeit work!
[04:23] <zsh> nalioth_, what???
[04:23] <avis> DoctorMO, i'm looking to buy 2 1 gig sticks possibly
[04:24] <zsh> DoctorMO, will do :)
[04:24] <DoctorMO> avis: aria.co.uk any good to you?
[04:25] <avis> nope.  i just deal inside the states.
[04:25] <geos2> help me! thinkpad... graphics... slooooooow
[04:25] <zsh> nalioth_, what did you mean PMs
[04:25] <solstice> hi. when i installed ubuntu root was on /dev/hda6 but now (after i created other partitions) ubuntu is on /dev/hda8. what do i need to do ?
[04:26] <DoctorMO> avis: ah the united states, you should be able to get really low prices there.
[04:26] <zsh> dmsantam, kenya is a country in east africa
[04:26] <micahcowan> solstice, probably, edit /etc/fstab (which, I suppose, you'll have to do from a boot recovery, such as the live boot CD).
[04:26] <avis> yes.  i'll try looking used from someone with good feedback.  get 1 gig value ram.
[04:27] <micahcowan> solstice, oh yes, also menu.lst for grub (in /boot).
[04:27] <nalioth_> zsh: PM = private message
[04:27] <geos2> avis: newegg.com is pretty reliable (and well known at this point)
[04:27] <avis> ok..
[04:27] <zsh> nalioth_, ohh ok :)
[04:27] <GStubbs43> Does anyone know if jDoom is free, or do I have to buy something?
[04:28] <solstice> micahcowan: i have done already the 2 you suggest. then i made some update and the new kernel installed overwrite menu.lst with the wrong partition !
[04:28] <solstice> name
[04:28] <avis> then corsair value ram.   i've got plenty of dist space in my linux tower -- 500gb.  just only 1 gig of ram.
[04:28] <cycom> avis: ...what are you using this box for?
[04:28] <avis> cycom fun and games.  diversion.
[04:28] <solstice> micahcowan: so if a rechange menu.lst the next kernel update i am sscrewes again
[04:29] <cycom> avis: why not a file server?
[04:29] <avis> its only 2.8 ghz celeron d.
[04:29] <geos2> help me! thinkpad..... 2d graphiiiiiiicsssss..... slooooooooooooooooooooow
[04:29] <cycom> avis: ick.
[04:29] <micahcowan> solstice, no, make sure that you change it in the commented-out line as well.
[04:29] <avis> well i would do that but i have failed to get samba working in anything other that xubuntu
[04:29] <DoctorMO> geos2, and your keyboard keys stick
[04:29] <avis> -that + than
[04:29] <dragger> how do I get multimedia codecs to work with dapper?
[04:29] <DoctorMO> !codecs
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <dragger> I've downloaded them, but can't get any streaming stuff to work?
[04:30] <solstice> micahcowan: and that will be enough ?
[04:30] <geos2> no, the keyboard is great! i'm just trying desperately to attract the attention of the ThinkPad gods...
[04:30] <avis> plus we are a wlan house except for me and with me its only for natural disasters.
[04:30] <micahcowan> solstice, I /believe/ so...
[04:30] <solstice> :-|
[04:30] <billy> hi
[04:30] <DoctorMO> geos2, try think a bout not buying a think pad in the past?
[04:30] <m0gsi>  Hey guys , where is the splash screen held!
[04:30] <micahcowan> solstice: I had a similar problem where, after installing Ubuntu, I attempted to install Plan9, which screwed up /my/ partitions, too. These are the changes I made, and I have not experienced problems.
[04:30] <dragger> thanks
[04:31] <m0gsi> For gnome
[04:31] <geos2> DoctorMO: i'm thinking alot about how i wish i hadn't bought this 'puter...
[04:31] <steven> geos2, Burn it?
[04:31] <steven> :D
[04:31] <billy> kubuntu was real easy to set up this time...last time i tried it was october
[04:31] <geos2> geos2: yes! burn the computer and the gods will come and resurrect it.
[04:32] <m0gsi> What is that program that lets you tweak gnome , something like gtwikeui
[04:32] <steven> geos2, If they consider it worthy of ressurection.
[04:32] <steven> :D
[04:32] <avis> i remember back when you couldn't get larger than 80 gig drives and suse broke my raid span array.  devestation !
[04:32] <geos2> actually, i'm thinking about ebay and feeling depressed about the money i wasted...
[04:32] <steven> I remember now, that you cannot get bigger then 1.2 terrabyte drive.s..
[04:32] <nalioth_> m0gsi: gtweakui
[04:33] <steven> Man. Sound Converter requires GStreamer 0.8 and I have 0.10
[04:33] <steven> Hehe. I just had to backroll to accomdate ONE program.
[04:33] <MacRules78> <i hate monday...
[04:33] <steven> I love Mondays. It's my day off.
[04:33] <samu2> can i check somehow if my LC_CTYPE is broken or something?
[04:34] <samu2> it doesnt seem to affect regexps in perl
[04:34] <geos2> anyone using a thinkpad x60?  time to get some work done...
[04:34] <MacRules78> actually I hate also tomorrow, because i still have the same problem
[04:34] <avis> steven you dont have to backroll just give it all you got :)  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* gstreamer0.10-* :)  then apt-get clean.
[04:34] <shinkansen> hey
[04:34] <solstice> micahcowan: yes i need to change the line with kopt and groot and then when i run manually update-grub all i fine with my new menu.lst
[04:34] <efuzzyone> hi, i am having big problem
[04:35] <efuzzyone> there was a sudden power outage, and I am now not able to use my Ubuntu - Dapper installation
[04:35] <micahcowan> solstice, excellent!
[04:35] <MacRules78> i have tried to get my new system to boot after installing ubuntu, but it won't do that.
[04:35] <steven> efuzzy: Invest in a UPS.
[04:35] <shinkansen> what is the new graphical user interface of linux called ?
[04:35] <steven> But, uhh..
[04:35] <steven> You may have to reinstall.
[04:35] <frogzoo> efuzzyone: run fsck
[04:35] <steven> See, a brighter user!
[04:35] <steven> :D
[04:36] <efuzzyone> it gives me the error, /dev/sda1 on /root failes, no such device
[04:36] <MacRules78> I got the error 17 or 22 in the beginning of grup loader
[04:36] <steven> Someone's always better then me with the big things.
[04:36] <efuzzyone> frogzoo: i am not able to run fsck
[04:36] <steven> avis: This is the biggest package list....
[04:36] <frogzoo> efuzzyone: bad mojo dude
[04:36] <shinkansen> what is the new graphical user interface of linux called ?
[04:36] <steven> Uhh..
[04:36] <frogzoo> efuzzyone: boot the intall disk & request recovery
[04:36] <efuzzyone> i have started the system using recovery mode, and it also gives the error /bin/sh can't access tty: job control turned off
[04:37] <steven> !GUI
[04:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about GUI - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:37] <steven> Search there.
[04:37] <steven> :D
[04:37] <cerda_> can ping sites but internet doenst work! cant anyone help me???
[04:37] <efuzzyone> frogzoo: thanks, i will just try that
[04:37] <steven> cerda_, Did you install a firewall?
[04:37] <cerda_> steven no
[04:37] <steven> Shit. I gotta go guys, take it easy.
[04:37] <efuzzyone> frogzoo: what is the boot option to start recovery?
[04:38] <micahcowan> cerda_, can sites ping you?
[04:38] <cerda_> micahcowan yes
[04:38] <steven[AFK] > efuzzyone, Put in your Ubuntu/Kubuntu CD and boot from it.
[04:38] <steven[AFK] > Then click the 3rd option "Rescue" or "Recovery" or whatever it is.
[04:38] <samu2> can i check which characters are included in my locales LC_CTYPE definition?
[04:38] <zsh> cerda_, have you setup dns
[04:38] <micahcowan> cerda_: hrm... you're pinging domain names, or raw IP addresses?
[04:39] <efuzzyone> steven[AFK] : i did that, now I have to give a boot option 'boot: _ '
[04:39] <cerda_> domain names
[04:39] <zsh> domain name serves
[04:39] <zsh> *servers
[04:39] <Deanodriver> hi
[04:39] <efuzzyone> there is no 'recovery' or 'repair' image
[04:40] <micahcowan> samu2, I think that info is somewhere in /usr/share/i18n; perhaps charmaps/<locale>.gz...
[04:40] <npster> what is
[04:40] <cerda_> internet used to work when i logged into windows first
[04:40] <Deanodriver> if i want to install Google Earth, do I install it in my /home directory, or try and find a way to install it in /usr/local and get it running as a non-root user?
[04:40] <Deanodriver> i'd rather not install it in home if i could
[04:40] <samu2> micahcowan, ok thanks ill check
[04:40] <cerda_> but yesterday ive removed it, and now i cant connect :(
[04:40] <npster> what is this command for: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[04:40] <zsh> if you can ping but cant use the domain names it means that the domain name server is not set
[04:41] <geos2> anyone using a thinkpad x60(s)?
[04:41] <Deanodriver> does anyone have an idea?
[04:41] <frogzoo> efuzzyone: just leave it blank, should do it
[04:41] <micahcowan> cerda_, so, just to be clear, you can ping a given site, but not access it with your browser?
[04:41] <cerda_> micahcowan yes, actually i cant connect with kopete too
[04:41] <geos2> Deanodriver: the install script puts it where it wants, not home though...
[04:41] <npster> what is this command for: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[04:41] <frogzoo> npster: gdm methinks, to restart gnome
[04:42] <Deanodriver> so i just go sudo GoogleEarthLinux.bin and do the rest?
[04:42] <Deanodriver> or whatever command
[04:42] <samu2> micahcowan, ok do you know how to read these locale files as well?
[04:42] <micahcowan> cerda_: Are you using IRC from that system right now (I'm assuming not)?
[04:42] <npster> But I'm using Xfce 4 ?
[04:42] <nalioth_> npster: it'll probably bust your box (using wildcards when sudoing isn'g advised unless you know what you're doing)
[04:42] <cerda_> micahcowan no
[04:42] <geos2> deanodriver: yeah, it didn't work for me, graphics all screwy, but it loaded...
[04:42] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:42] <samu2> my LC_CTYPE section says 'copy "i18n"' whatever that means
[04:42] <micahcowan> samu2, they're text files, you should be able to view them with zless?
[04:42] <Deanodriver> will i need to sudo?
[04:43] <samu2> micahcowan, yeah i know
[04:43] <geos2> Deanodriver: i forget... i would imagine so...
[04:43] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:43] <samu2> but i just dont know how these definitions are written
[04:43] <micahcowan> samu2, they're mappings from unicode to the given locale. The third field of most of those is the actual name of the characters. Was there something else you wanted to know?
[04:43] <zsh> cerda_, just check the dns server address if its the one given to you by ur isp
[04:43] <npster> I have a problem with Xubuntu, There is a black line about a cm thick on the right of the screen? HOw do I change this ?
[04:43] <geos2> help! anyone using a thinkpad x60(s)?
[04:43] <amar-ze> hi, can anyone help me with this please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226387
[04:43] <frogzoo> anyone had any luck with the latest kqemu module & qemu 0.8.2 ???
[04:44] <micahcowan> samu2, hang on
[04:44] <Deanodriver> so install path /usr/local/google-earth and binary path /usr/local/bin
[04:44] <Deanodriver> ?
[04:44] <cerda_> micahcowan do u know how can i set my network card to work in 10mbits??
[04:44] <frogzoo> npster: CRT or LCD ?
[04:45] <micahcowan> samu2, what's your locale?
[04:45] <geos2> Deanodriver: sounds good...
[04:45] <frogzoo> cerda_: install net-tools & use mii-tool
[04:45] <cerda_> i had problems when it was using 100mbits
[04:45] <micahcowan> cerda_, I'm not sure :(
[04:45] <samu2> micahcowan, i think i found out a bit more now, the finnish locale copies its LC_CTYPE definition from i18n so ill check there now
[04:45] <micahcowan> cerda_: what exactly happens when you try to connect with your browser?
[04:46] <npster> I think LCD
[04:46] <npster> frogzoo: lcd
[04:47] <bleck> Hi, dapper loads the wrong module to drive my wifi card. rmmod removes it during the session, how to tell ubuntu not to load it ?
[04:47] <avis> npster if its not bridging all the way across auto adjust on the LCD.
[04:47] <npster> I Tried But No Help
[04:47] <Deanodriver> thanks, seems to work :)
[04:48] <sgkf> hey whats that stats prog called again? GKRealm ?
[04:48] <npster> avis, frogzoo, I tried but no help
[04:49] <longwave> sgkf: gkrellm?
[04:49] <avis> perhaps you need to modprobe your monitor and add the vert and horiz refresh rates to xorg.conf
[04:49] <sgkf> longwave: thx
[04:49] <npster> avis:: explain
[04:49] <avis> i'm missing my linux notebook :(  let me look around here for my notes
[04:50] <longwave> bleck: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:50] <bleck> longwave: thanks
[04:51] <cerda_> micahcowan when i run pppoeconf it says: access concentrator of your provider did not respond, does it help?? :/
[04:51] <amar-ze> no one'? :/
[04:51] <avis> dccprobe | grep monitorrange    - npster put it under monitor identifier
[04:51] <amar-ze> i really need to mount partitions
[04:51] <amar-ze> :)
[04:51] <sgkf> longwave: can u make terminal transparent or is it only konsole
[04:51] <longwave> sgkf: uhm, i dont know, sorry
[04:52] <micahcowan> cerda_, doesn't mean much to me. :( ...what happens if you "telnet www.yahoo.com 80"?
[04:52] <erUSUL> amar-ze: add the user option to the fstab line 'user,defaults,....'
[04:53] <amar-ze> tnx erUSUL
[04:53] <amar-ze> do I need to logout now or..
[04:53] <amar-ze> to aplly changes..
[04:54] <cerda_> micahcowan it connected
[04:54] <wheelswitch> is there an easy way of installing firefox 2.0?
[04:54] <micahcowan> cerda_, type "GET / HTTP/1.0" followed by two <return>s
[04:55] <micahcowan> (spaces around that first /, not the second)
[04:55] <avis> wheelswitch, i'm waiting for the ubuntu release
[04:55] <cerda_> micahcowan no problem if im using kubuntu right?
[04:55] <mcphail> wheelswitch: you would have to download from the mozilla site
[04:55] <cerda_> i have both installed, but right now im logged in kubuntu
[04:56] <mischy> hi
[04:56] <micahcowan> cerda_, heh, that's a good way to get #kubuntu! shouted at you here. But I for one don't care: and it certainly shouldn't affect your problem.
[04:56] <npster> avis: how do I put it there; I'm new
[04:57] <micahcowan> cerda_, that "GET" stuff was meant to be in the telnet session, BTW.
[04:57] <mischy> Even after I deactivated the screen saver and the display sleep setting under power managment, my display goes to sleep after about 20 minutes of inactivity. What could trigger this and how do I turn it off?
[04:57] <Hoblaa> hello. can somebody help me to conf my wlan adapter?
[04:57] <Hoblaa> have been pulling out my hair with it for a half a day now
[04:57] <Spec> what card?
[04:57] <Gustavo34> ] [] [] [- www.misecretito.com.ar -] [] [] [
[04:58] <avis> npster i'd cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.bak ; sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:58] <Hoblaa> linksys wmp54g, the driver is rt61
[04:58] <Hoblaa> i have tried every howto i have found and still no success...
[04:59] <npster> avis: what do i do with  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:59] <avis> Hoblaa, i had that working just fine out of the box with it configured as the only wan connection but i let it sit for 5 minutes at the ubuntu/xubuntu login screen
[05:00] <amar-ze> now I got this error : mount: mount point /media/hdd5 does not exist
[05:00] <avis> the same card.
[05:00] <amar-ze> :/
[05:00] <lnx^> hey. I'm trying to get fglrx to work with my radeon 9200 pro. it seems to work fine, but for some reason xvideo doesn't (I need it for mythtv)
[05:00] <Hoblaa> avis: yo're usnig wpa?
[05:00] <lnx^> I just get 'no adaptors present', using the ubuntu fglrx pack
[05:01] <ahmeni> Does fglrx work for the 9200? I always used the radeon driver
[05:01] <avis> npster under monitor you enter your HorizSync and VertRefresh readings from dcc probe | grep monitorrange
[05:01] <npster> avis: what do i do with:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.config
[05:01] <frosty_badfish> amar-ze: what are you trying to do?
[05:01] <npster> WHAT
[05:01] <avis> Hobbla, i am using WEP with mac filtering.
[05:01] <amar-ze> frosty_badfish trying to mount partitions of my new disk but no luck
[05:02] <Hoblaa> OK. I have tried to conf it to work with WPA... perhaps i sould try that combination
[05:02] <avis> wireless for me if for natural disasters unless your my father who has the office at the front of the house
[05:02] <npster> avis: i use xubuntu ; I have no idea what that is ?
[05:02] <wthww> mmk, ive installed build-essential, and im trying to compile SheepShaver and i get an error at the end. ive posted it a posted at pastebin here >> http://pastebin.ca/108494
[05:02] <htv8> problem while partitioning
[05:02] <htv8> :( :( :(
[05:02] <htv8> ""error while resizing/moving dev/hda/""
[05:02] <avis> you type the last part in terminal, npster
[05:03] <amar-ze> frosty_badfish: here is explanation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226387  :)
[05:03] <longwave> wthww: you should run "make" without sudo, but then "sudo make install" to install it
[05:03] <wthww> ohh.. k
[05:03] <avis> then it outputs the values to enter in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf then for the changes to take place you'd kill X then relogin
[05:03] <htv8> anyone ?
[05:04] <htv8> problem while partitioning
[05:04] <htv8> 	:( :( :(
[05:04] <htv8> 	""error while resizing/moving dev/hda/""
[05:04] <cello_rasp> can anyone use http://pages.google.com under firefox 1.5.0.4 (latest dapper) ?? Lots of things dont work..
[05:04] <cowmilk> i have a Pentium 2 300 mHz box with 128 mb ram and an 8GB drive. do you guys recommend Xubuntu?
[05:04] <ahmeni> cowmilk: definately
[05:04] <cello_rasp> cowmilk: firefox & oo.o will need more ram
[05:05] <wthww> ty longwave
[05:05] <micahcowan> htv8: /dev/hda/ is not a partition.
[05:05] <cowmilk> ok. i'll get xubuntu
[05:05] <cowmilk> cello_rasp: oh
[05:05] <cello_rasp> i recommend 256 minimum
[05:05] <cowmilk> cello_rasp: i have an ipod charging on this box with USB 1.0 ports.
[05:05] <cowmilk> it shoud just take 3 hours max to charge.
[05:05] <erUSUL> cowmilk: i would recommend puppy linux
[05:05] <npster> I don't know what the res should be, avis
[05:05] <ahmeni> the more ram the better, but firefox/OO will still run if you've got enoughswap
[05:05] <cowmilk> does USB 1.0 mean lower power output?
[05:06] <micahcowan> htv8: /dev/hda/ isn't anything. /dev/hda is an entire hard disk; /dev/hdaN is a partition (where N is a number)
[05:06] <J_P> hi all
[05:06] <cowmilk> erUSUL: is that good for newbies?
[05:06] <cowmilk> erUSUL: i'm no linux geek
[05:06] <cello_rasp> ahmeni: they will run but like horrible pigs @ 128MB.
[05:06] <billy> the ubuntu userguide was very helpfull...especially the automatic installs...
[05:06] <erUSUL> cowmilk: i only know that is good for old hardware...
[05:06] <htv8> ok, I think the error message was /dev/hda1 or something
[05:07] <cowmilk> erUSUL: what do you think of xubuntu
[05:07] <htv8> but I want to resize my partition where Windows is installed on
[05:07] <npster> cowmilk: use Ubuntu it's similar to windows's simplicity
[05:07] <htv8> so that I can make space for Linux
[05:07] <avis> npster open terminal and type ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[05:07] <avis> its ddcprobe
[05:07] <avis> my mistake
[05:07] <htv8> :(
[05:07] <ahmeni> cello_rasp: yeah, could probably substitute Abiword for OO, dunno what you'd use as an alternative to FF though
[05:07] <cello_rasp> cowmilk: usb1.0 only means lower transmission speed. same power
[05:07] <zsh> cowmilk, make sure you download the xubuntu alternate cd
[05:08] <htv8> so how to solve this????????
[05:08] <npster> avis: and then
[05:08] <cello_rasp> alternate > liveCD
[05:08] <micahcowan> htv8, you want to /shrink/ your Windows partition to make room? Can't do that, I'm afraid. You can only /expand/ partitions, I believe: certainly can't shrink a partition that's mostly in use.
[05:08] <cowmilk> cello_rasp: ok. coz my never-before-used ipod has been charging since 4 hours ago and the battery level is still at minimum
[05:08] <htv8> :|
[05:09] <efuzzyon`> i am able to access the harddrive, and see all the files but how do I run recovery, "FATAL : Module minix not found" error
[05:09] <avis> find your monitor identifier or better yet google "xorg.conf HorizSync VertRefresh" because i've tried all i can to help you
[05:09] <yggdrasil> hello whats the cmd line to restart my network eth0
[05:09] <cowmilk> zsh: what's the diff with the alt CD?|
[05:09] <htv8> so I can't use Linux ?
[05:09] <cello_rasp> cowmilk: it takes about 8 hours when new
[05:09] <samuel_> ubuntu-it
[05:09] <micahcowan> htv8, you can back up your Windows partition and completely rewrite your hard-drive, or you could use a separate drive for Linux...
[05:09] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[05:09] <cowmilk> cello_rasp: oh. thanks for letting me know. i was expecting 3 hours for new charge
[05:09] <cello_rasp> cowmilk: at least, my suffle did. read the manual :)
[05:09] <billy> htv8..if you can afford it, buy a separate drive for your linux
[05:09] <J_P> people, I think has a bug in package firefox 1.5.0.5 on dapper, I did update and after update firefox upgrade to version 1.5.0.5 firefox congeals.. quando I'm  surfing on web. i star firefox in gnome-terminal and msg when firefox congeals is this :
[05:09] <J_P> jp@neo:~$ firefox
[05:09] <J_P> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x09d98d58 ***
[05:09] <cowmilk> cello_rasp: ok
[05:09] <lnx^> ahmeni: well for me it works with 9200
[05:09] <htv8> i've a 75 gigabyte hard disk on which XP is installed, so I can't limit the amount for windows to use only 30 gig? and the rest for linux?
[05:10] <zsh> cowmilk, the desktop cd is a live cd, if you want to install xubuntu it will take forever, it might not even work
[05:10] <steven[AFK] > htv8, you can...but you have repartition everything.
[05:10] <steven[AFK] > And new install.
[05:10] <npster> avis: english please?
[05:10] <htv8> OMG :|
[05:10] <cowmilk> zsh: yes , i want to install xubuntu onto this box
[05:10] <yggdrasil> hello, can somone gime a hand with a  quickie , whats the cmd line to restart my network eth0, i know how to stop it but iwant to stop it and the strt it .
[05:10] <cowmilk> why do you think it may not work or take foreover?
[05:10] <Winball> some white plastic things are blocking the screwholes to my cpuframe, How can I remove those? Im trying to install a new cpu-fan
[05:10] <htv8> well, I do have a removable hard disk 75 gig or something
[05:10] <htv8> i can try that
[05:10] <steven[AFK] > Oooh kay.
[05:11] <zsh> cowmilk, the alternate cd allows you to install without starting the gui so its faster and doesnt require as much ram
[05:11] <steven[AFK] > yggdrasil, Hey.
[05:11] <htv8> ok I'll try that
[05:11] <htv8> it's D:
[05:11] <yggdrasil> argh..
[05:11] <steven[AFK] > You in GNOME or Kubuntu?
[05:11] <npster> yggdrasil : IN UBUNTU THERE IS NO CMD !!!!
[05:11] <yggdrasil> how do i combine cmd line cmds
[05:11] <steven[AFK] > npster, Down boy. Down.
[05:11] <yggdrasil> couldnt i do that?
[05:11] <micahcowan> htv8, well, if WinXP is already installed on it, there could be problems. Usually, during win install, you can limit it's partition size to the 30gb. You /might/ be able to resize the partition somehow under Windows, if it's not heavily used (no idea)
[05:11] <cowmilk> zsh: but can i do much without starting the gui?
[05:11] <yggdrasil> i know man
[05:11] <cowmilk> presently, this computer is running win 98 and it's not bad
[05:12] <yggdrasil> cowmilk dont disgust me
[05:12] <steven[AFK] > micahcowan, Or he could do a new linux install and the partitioner will resize it.
[05:12] <J_P> anyone can help with crash in firefox ?
[05:12] <zsh> cowmilk, it uses a text based installer
[05:12] <cowmilk> so i'm wondering why you think it will be not so good if i have xubuntu gui
[05:12] <htv8> hmmm but I can install WinXP on another hard disk, can't I?
[05:12] <steven[AFK] > yggdrasil, GNOME or Kubuntu?
[05:12] <yggdrasil> gnome
[05:12] <Hoblaa> raah. those two things, the network adapter and router wont even talk to each other...
[05:12] <steven[AFK] > Thanks.
[05:12] <cowmilk> zsh: now i'm confused. when you mentioned gui, are you referring to just the installation stage?
[05:12] <yggdrasil> im sshd into the box its up in the attic.
[05:12] <micahcowan> steven[AFK] : I believe that's what he's trying to do... but I'd be surprised if the install disk can do that to NTFS? And /shrinking/ a partition could be complicated, could it not?
[05:13] <yggdrasil> how do i combine 2 cmds together ? isnt it like a ; ?or a , ?
[05:13] <zsh> cowmillk, no i'm referring to the window manager
[05:13] <steven[AFK] > micahcowan, It's actually done it for me, but now I have no more Windows (yay) but, it is possible.
[05:13] <Hoblaa> i cant get the linksys adapter working and this aint funny anymore :)
[05:13] <zsh> cowmilk, xfce
[05:13] <steven[AFK] > It basically resizes the NTFS and then makes a linux partition and the ones that it needs.
[05:13] <jrib> yggdrasil: echo hi && echo hello <-- second command will happen if first is succesful, or: echo hi; echo hello  <-- both happen regardless of first's success
[05:13] <npster> yggdrasil: cmd in Linux is terminal
[05:13] <billy> htv8...i would leave windows alone, install second hard drive, and then put ubuntu on second hard drive...it will add windows to the start up boot menu
[05:13] <htv8> ok thank you
[05:13] <cowmilk> ok. please tell me again why i want the Alternate CD and not the Main CD if i want to install Xubuntu, please
[05:13] <micahcowan> steven[AFK] : it just "did" it? how much of that partition was "in use" by Windows?
[05:14] <steven[AFK] > Okay, back to yggdrasil: Hi. I don't know how to do it in Terminal. Graphically, yes.
[05:14] <dubuntu> hello my ubuntu friends
[05:14] <dubuntu> is possible to take output from my laptop to external lcd ?
[05:14] <npster> avis: explain slower
[05:14] <Lord_Athur> hi
[05:14] <Lord_Athur> how can i print a document with nano?
[05:14] <steven[AFK] > micahcowan, Maybe 10-20gb. I alotted it 30.
[05:14] <zsh> cowmilk, i learnt the hard way today. the desktop cd kept freezing during install
[05:14] <htv8> it's a removable device btw which I can bring into the computer (you know what I mean), so I can always plug the device out
[05:14] <dubuntu> is possible to take output from my laptop to external lcd ?
[05:14] <htv8> it can be handy :)
[05:14] <CarinArr> dubuntu, of course
[05:14] <CarinArr> or well
[05:14] <micahcowan> steven[AFK] : and you shrunk it down to 10-20? or to 30 from something else?
[05:14] <zsh> cowmilk, do you get what i'm saying?
[05:14] <cowmilk> zsh: ok. but the end result whether i install from Alternate or Main is still the same, yes+
[05:14] <CarinArr> if there's a connector on your laptop allowing for it;)
[05:14] <cowmilk> ?
[05:14] <frogzoo> dubuntu: yes
[05:14] <steven[AFK] > I shrunk it down to 30.
[05:14] <yggdrasil> ok so sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[05:14] <yggdrasil> works
[05:14] <steven[AFK] > From 80, and then gave the rest to Linux.
[05:15] <htv8> ok i'll try
[05:15] <cowmilk> the only reason why you want me to use Alternate cd is because of installation issues with the main cd, yes?
[05:15] <htv8> cya later
[05:15] <Lord_Athur> anyone knows how can i print a document with nano?
[05:15] <npster> how do I set up an ADSL connection in Xubuntu ?
[05:15] <micahcowan> steven[AFK] : cool. :-) Did /not/ know that could work. Guess it wasn't, for some reason, for htv8, tho'...
[05:15] <dubuntu> CarinArr: How ?
[05:15] <billy> htv8..there are lots of programs available with ubuntu...so i would use a 80 gig for ubuntu...at least...if you want to download all the programs (packages)
[05:15] <cowmilk> zsh: i think i can handle a text-based installer, but i'd like gui when i run xubuntu.
[05:15] <zsh> cowmilk, it should be, yes, but the desktop cd will take longer on ur box since it doesnt have alot of ram
[05:15] <CarinArr> lord_athur, no idea.. but if it's a ps printer you can always use a2ps
[05:15] <cowmilk> zsh: ok
[05:15] <cowmilk> zsh: i think i understand
[05:15] <CarinArr> then put the ps file straight in the printer queue
[05:15] <dubuntu> is possible to take output from my laptop to external lcd ?
[05:16] <yggdrasil> at home i have my wireless adapter and at work im ethernet so when i come here the dns server from my house is stuck in the cache . and i have to turn off the wireles, and restart the ethernet to clear out the dns server otherwise i cant mount my network shares :(
[05:16] <zsh> cowmilk, you will get the gui when running xubuntu, but not when installing
[05:16] <cowmilk> can i put the iso onto a CD-RW disc, or do i have to burn (and waste) a CD-R disc?
[05:16] <CarinArr> dubuntu, will you please stop repeating yourself
[05:16] <dubuntu> is possible to take output from my laptop to external lcd ?
 u here
[05:16] <zsh> cowmilk, yes
[05:16] <[Ex0r] > !repeating
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about repeating - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <cowmilk> zsh: thaNKS
[05:17] <frogzoo> cowmilk: cdrw's fine
[05:17] <zsh> cowmilk,np
[05:17] <cowmilk> time to find that cd-rw disk and install xubuntu and get rid of win98
[05:17] <cowmilk> frogzoo: thanks
[05:17] <CarinArr> dubuntu, if you don't get an answer quickly, google for it..
[05:17] <dubuntu> pl in name of holy testicles of gaint panda
[05:17] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know the first step in this command, sudo dpkg --get-selections- > out.txt
[05:18] <Paddy_EIRE> the one that writes the out.txt file to begin with
[05:18] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: dpkg --get-selections > out.txt
[05:18] <billy> i use text mode and f6 to access the command line...remove quiet..and add expert...so i can set up my lcd properly
[05:18] <Hoblaa> avis: did you set your wireless connection working with network-manager or how? because i can't get ip address from wlan router...
 cheers man excellent
[05:19] <cowmilk> on this box, it's going to take about 5 hours to download that iso
[05:19] <cowmilk> 8-)
[05:19] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: The > out.txt is the part that writes to out.txt (before the rest of the command is run). Is that what you meant?
[05:19] <wilfredo> ?
 yep
 is there instructions for this somewhere
 and possible probs i might encounter
[05:20] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: for what, the ">" part, or the dpkg command?
 dpkg
[05:20] <micahcowan> typing "man dpkg" should help. There's a /lot/ of information in there, and there are other manuals as well that give details...
[05:21] <avis> yes the networking icon in system administation
[05:21] <avis> for me it took a bit of time to authenticate
[05:21] <zsh> cowmilk, lucky you, it took me 18 hours
[05:21] <cowmilk> zsh: ha
[05:21] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE, ^^^
[05:22] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: also, once you're reading the manual page for dpkg, if you type / (slash) followed by --get-sel, you should come to the part of the manual that (briefly) discusses that command.
[05:22] <cowmilk> um, i have a new ipod. do i have to do anything in windows to get my ipod to work? like installing the latest iTunes in Windows and then syncing? Or can I do everything in Ubuntu?\
 so "sudo dpkg --get-selections < out.txt" should install all the packages on another users machine
[05:22] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: the very end of that manual also gives some examples.
[05:22] <sgkf> hey is there a diff msn that has voice clips feature?
[05:22] <finalbeta> Can I use xen to run SLED10 on ubuntu yet?
[05:22] <billy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
ah i see nice one
[05:23] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: It would be --set-selections, I believe.
[05:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[05:23] <billy> i recommend it ...the automatic installs were great
[05:23] <micahcowan> (--get-selections is what created the file in the first place).
[05:23] <Paddy_EIRE> so it should be sudo dpkg --set-selections < out.txt
[05:24] <tylersmith> Is it possible to change from Gnome to KDE?
[05:25] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: I believe so (I actually haven't done this)
[05:25] <jrib> !kde > tylersmith
 would this be the correct instruction to run on the other machine sudo dpkg --set-selections < out.txt to get the packages all to install
 oh u aint done this yet
[05:26] <tylersmith> jrib: Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure what it means!
 i was just trying to give my friend everything from my machine to hers
[05:26] <jrib> tylersmith: ubotu should have sent you the info in a private message, did you get it?
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> she has no net connection
[05:27] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: if she has no net connection, I'm fairly sure it will be more complicated than that.
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
 so there is no straight forward way of installing these apps on her machine
[05:28] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: She'll actually need the .deb files for each package you need to copy... each one listed in out.txt... that could be alot (although, you probably have a lot of packages in common already...)
[05:28] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: take a look at apt-zip
[05:28] <wthww_> ok, how do i remove something ive compiled?
[05:28] <micahcowan> !info apt-zip
[05:28] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.13.5 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:29] <jrib> wthww_: what command did you issue to install it?
[05:29] <wthww_> sudo make install
 yeah i have gotten them from /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:29] <micahcowan> jrib, thanks for that reference, I was not aware of that command. Nice!
[05:29] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/ take a look here (apt-zip)
 apt-zip where is that
[05:29] <jrib> wthww_: well you cna try 'sudo make uninstall'.  It may exist if the author was nice.  In the future, try to use checkinstall instead
[05:29] <jrib> !checkinstall > wthww_
[05:30] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: You might need to install it (sudo apt-get install apt-zip).
[05:30] <AndreasBe> i'm having a problem with sudo. Even tough i'm a member of the "admin" group (via ldap posix groups, though), i cannot access sudo.
[05:30] <wthww_> nice jrib
[05:30] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: yes, after you install it the man page seems pretty readable, but I haven't used it myself
 what does apt-zip have to do with it
[05:30] <jrib> AndreasBe: what is the output from 'sudo echo hi'?
[05:31] <stjepan> hi
[05:31] <AndreasBe> jrib: i'm asked for my password, then i enter it, and then i'm returned to prompt w/out any futher output.
[05:31] <cowmilk> zsh: i found out that the 35kb/sec dl of the iso is not due to my old box, but due to the server
[05:32] <cowmilk> where can i get the cd fasteR?\
[05:32] <stjepan> why are there kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop?? Wouldn't it be more simple and better if there would be kde, gnome and xfce meta-packages?
[05:32] <jrib> AndreasBe: do you have another user with access to sudo or have you set a root password?
[05:32] <frogzoo> cowmilk: torrent
[05:32] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: AIUI, it lets you zip-up stuff on your computer that you want to install on another, and put it on a CD or somesuch. (I haven't used it)
[05:32] <zsh> cowmilk, good, u should be up and running pretty soon
[05:32] <AndreasBe> jrib: yes. i still have i local user i created during install. my goal is to delete all local users, though.
 i have already burned the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:33] <cowmilk> frogzoo: thank you again
[05:33] <zsh> cowmilk, where r u? there might be some closer mirrors
[05:33] <frogzoo> cowmilk: yw
[05:33] <cowmilk> zsh: vancouver, canada
[05:34] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: Then you may not need apt-zip :-)
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> can i just use sudo dpkg --set-selections , out.txt
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo dpkg --set-selections  out.tx
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[05:35] <stjepan> what if new firefox verion is released and I want to install it, but there are (still) no packages for it? Do I have to download source, ./configure && make && checkinstall?? Or is there a better way? Can I download .dsc of old firefox, change the version and download new firefox and then make a package somehow?????
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> im a bit slow on it today
[05:35] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: well, like the manual page says, that doesn't actually install anything. apt-zip may make your life easier anyway (I don't know)... I'm not sure exactly how I'd go about what you're trying to do :(
[05:35] <billy> i used Easy Ubuntu and Automatix from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper to install opera, nvidia drivers, and everything else that i needed..it was pretty neat
[05:36] <billy> then i retrieved my bookmarks for opera from my windows installation...
 i think i have apt-zip installed but know nothing really of how to use it, that web page is to confusing i only want to install my stuff on anther comp
[05:36] <cyphase> can someone get truecrypt into edgy?
[05:36] <jrib> AndreasBe: hmm, I'm not familiar with ldap.  As long as /etc/sudoers has a rule for the admin group, the command 'groups' includes the "admin" group, and you have local sudo access, then there must be some special thing about using ldap
[05:37] <arctic_quasar> could anyone suggest a good chess engine that works well along with a good interface?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> cyphase: put the request on launchpad as a bug (but i think its too late to get anything new in
[05:38] <micahcowan> Paddy_EIRE: Yeah, I haven't done that, myself, so I'm not sure how much help I'll be...
[05:38] <saispo> anyone use evolution-exchange ?
[05:38] <billy> i then installed synaptic and used that to install new packages
[05:38] <zsh> arctic_quasar, xboard
[05:38] <AndreasBe> jrib: hm. thats what i figured. funny thing is: the ldap-posix-groups audio, cdrom floppy, ect. work as expected. just admin dosent. 'getent group admin' only lists the local group.
[05:38] <cyphase> gnomefreak: there's still new stuff going in
[05:38] <zsh> arctic_quasar, xboard is a good gui and gnu chess is a good engine
[05:38] <gnomefreak> cyphase: no there isnt just what was already agreed on
[05:38] <Alex0r> xboard>
[05:38] <Alex0r> ?
[05:38] <Alex0r> what be xboard?
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> there must be someone who has also wanted to do this
[05:39] <zsh> Alex0r, xboard is a chess gui
[05:39] <MorningLight> Hi, I'm trying to get Airsnort to compile, but I'm running into an error when the configure script tries to find gtk+. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19312
[05:39] <stjepan> why are there kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop?? Wouldn't it be more simple and better if there would be kde, gnome and xfce meta-packages?
[05:39] <Alex0r> Not really.
[05:39] <MorningLight> not really.
[05:39] <micahcowan> Alex0r: lets you play chess, either on a chess server or using an engine such as gnu-chess (installed separately)
[05:40] <Alex0r> Ohh
[05:40] <Alex0r> Sounds fun
[05:40] <Alex0r> GAIM is really annoying right now
[05:40] <Alex0r> It keeps saying I'm disconnected
[05:40] <MorningLight> GAIM is annoying for IRC, period.
[05:40] <erUSUL> MorningLight: sudo apt-get install airsnort
[05:40] <Alex0r> No, I'm on gnome-xchat for IRC
[05:41] <Alex0r> GAIM for MSN
[05:41] <Plugh> Paddy_EIRE: Someone else must have wanted to do what? (I just arrived in the channel)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> cyphase: my bad it was main that was frozen you still have sometime to get it in (im thinking not too long)
[05:41] <MorningLight> erUSUL, where does it install to?
[05:42] <nikin> today i installed my ubuntu, and made 3 partitions hda1 mounted to / , hda3 as swap, and left hda2 for mounting it later. how can i mount that?
[05:42] <erUSUL> MorningLight: i'm not sure i understand. it install in your computer...
[05:42] <MorningLight> lol :-P I meant what folder, but I found it.
[05:42] <mrDaniel_> do anyone knows, what the package 'w32codecs' do?
[05:42] <jake_> how can i hold a package version back... i want to use gaim-otr and the associated version of gaim
[05:43] <Plugh> nikin: Use the mount command to mount it manually or update your fstab file if you want to start mounting it automatically on system boot
[05:43] <erUSUL> nikin: add a line to /etc/fstab or use System>Admin.>Disks
[05:43] <mrDaniel_> who the support for the different-sound-formats is working
[05:43] <mrDaniel_> ???
[05:43] <billy> w32codecs allow you to watch movies, etc...
[05:43] <gnomefreak> mrDaniel_: allows you to play windows formatted audio and video
[05:43] <gatekeeper> !mount > nikin
[05:43] <nikin> plugh i want the second one
 I have burned the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to dvd, and i was trying to see if there was a command that i can run on my friends machine who doesnt have net connection that would install everything in that folder
[05:43] <billy> they are the codecs that different movie formats require
[05:44] <AngryElf_> what is the proper syntax for /etc/sudoers in order to give a user premission to shutdown?
[05:44] <mrDaniel_> @gnomefreak: but which software uses this codecs?
[05:44] <Alex0r> There are many
[05:44] <Alex0r> There's many music players, DVD players, etc
[05:44] <Alex0r> Banshee for example being a good MP3 player
[05:44] <billy> you can install everything required for watching movies and burning dvd and cd by using easy ubuntu and automatix on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:44] <finalbeta> if I want to use Xen, then normal kernel updates through auto update will no longer be possible?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> mrDaniel_: most players do i think mplayer plays them by default
one that i thought would do it was dpkg --get-selections > out.txt then on friends machine i would run dpkg --set-selections < out.txt
[05:45] <billy> all the movie software uses the common codec files
[05:45] <nikin> which is the most secure file system for ubuntu
[05:45] <stjepan> what if new firefox verion is released and I want to install it, but there are (still) no packages for it? Do I have to download source, ./configure && make && checkinstall?? Or is there a better way? Can I download .dsc of old firefox, change the version and download new firefox and then make a package somehow?????
[05:45] <KonvIRC_> Hey, what is the command to patch ubuntu 606 ?   apt-get xxxx   ?
[05:45] <erUSUL> nikin: ext3 IMNSHO
[05:45] <Alex0r> what do you mean by that.
[05:46] <stjepan> in archlinux I would just make a simple pkgbuild and run "makepkg"! In ubuntu that's much more complicated :(((((
[05:46] <Alex0r> apt-get install firefox
[05:46] <Alex0r> ?
[05:46] <stjepan> nooo
[05:46] <stefg> !apt > KonvIRC_
[05:46] <stjepan> ok
[05:46] <dubuntu> is possible to take output from my laptop to external lcd ?
[05:46] <billy> you also have to follow the instructions for changing your apt sources on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:46] <erUSUL> KonvIRC_: sudo apt-get update && sudp apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <geekdom> Hey, what is the command to patch ubuntu 606 ?   apt-get xxxx   ?
[05:46] <stjepan> what if I want to install firefox 1.0???
[05:46] <Alex0r> um
[05:46] <stjepan> what to do then?
[05:46] <Alex0r> why would you want to do something like that..
[05:47] <stjepan> ./configure && make && checkinstall?
[05:47] <stefg> !apt > geekdom
[05:47] <erUSUL> geekdom: do not repeat please...
[05:47] <stjepan> Alex0r, it doesn't matter, really
[05:47] <Alex0r> oh
[05:47] <Alex0r> well I do it differently
[05:47] <Alex0r> I've never used mkepkg
[05:47] <Hoblaa> huoh. i'm starting to think switching back to windows. this shouldn't be this hard...
[05:47] <stjepan> Alex0r, so how would you do that?
[05:47] <Alex0r> Well
[05:47] <Alex0r> You'd have to add the repositories for 1.0 if I'm correct
[05:48] <Paddy_EIRE>  I have burned the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to dvd, and i was trying to see if there was a command that i can run on my friends machine who doesnt have net connection that would install everything in that folder one that i thought would do it was dpkg --get-selections > out.txt then on friends machine i would run dpkg --set-selections < out.txt
[05:48] <stjepan> Alex0r, yeah, but what if there are no repos for 1.0??
[05:48] <Alex0r> Then I do not know, I've never installed a package manually
[05:48] <stjepan> how to make my own package based on ubuntu's package?
[05:48] <gatekeeper> Hoblaa, what are you trying to do?
[05:48] <AngryElf_> anyone know what line to add to /etc/sudoers in order to allow a user to shutdown?
[05:49] <Plugh> nikin: As previously mentioned, you need to add a line to /etc/fstab to have the disk get mounted automatically at boot time. Or, as erUSUL mentioned, you could use the "Disks" tool under the System/Administration menu
[05:49] <stjepan> Hoblaa, why??
[05:49] <Hoblaa> im trying to make wlan adapter to work...
[05:49] <Alex0r> oh damn
[05:49] <stjepan> Hoblaa, what adapter?
[05:49] <Alex0r> that is not easy
[05:49] <Plugh> Paddy_EIRE: The files you burned are all .deb packages?
[05:49] <Hoblaa> and i can't even get the card to talk to the router
[05:49] <Alex0r> yeah
[05:49] <Alex0r> common problems
[05:49] <stjepan> Alex0r, in archlinux it is incredibly easy :=|
[05:49] <micahcowan> AngryElf: you might try "<user> ALL = /sbin/shutdown" ... make sure you use visudo to edit sudoers.
[05:49] <Alex0r> Yes
[05:49] <stjepan> Hoblaa, what card??
yes
[05:50] <Alex0r> I used to use slackware
[05:50] <Alex0r> and then it was rly boring
[05:50] <Alex0r> so
[05:50] <Hoblaa> wmp54g symlink... uses rt61 drivers
[05:50] <Alex0r> is there linux drivers for it?
[05:50] <Hoblaa> yep
[05:50] <jhasse> Can someone help installing MySQL for PHP5? Which package shall i install?
[05:50] <stjepan> Hoblaa, I got Gigaset USB Adapter 54 to work with ubuntu flawlessly!! (that adapter is totally windows-only)
[05:50] <stjepan> Hoblaa, just a moment...
[05:50] <gatekeeper> !lamp > jhasse
[05:51] <Hoblaa> the dapper recognizes the card out of box...
[05:51] <jhasse> gatekeeper: thx
[05:51] <James> Hello?
[05:51] <stjepan> Hoblaa, I know how to get it working!!!
[05:51] <gatekeeper> jhasse, yw :-) good luck
[05:51] <stjepan> Hoblaa, are you in ubuntu now?
[05:52] <Hoblaa> stjepan: yes
[05:52] <Alex0r> This sounds stupid but where would I type !lamp? I put it in terminal and it said event not found
[05:52] <Plugh> Paddy_EIRE: Seems like a simple install or update using dpkg would do the trick. Just use a wild card when specifying the file names.
[05:52] <AngryElf_> micahcowan, I tried that, it doesn't seem to be working, do I have to reload something first?
[05:52] <stjepan> Hoblaa, good
[05:52] <stjepan> Hoblaa, open terminal and type: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:52] <Hoblaa> why?
 could u tell me what it might be im very unfamiliar with cli
[05:53] <stjepan> Hoblaa, just do it
[05:53] <stjepan> Hoblaa, you will install ndiswrapper - it allows you to use windows drivers in linux
[05:53] <gatekeeper> !lamp
[05:53] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:53] <Hoblaa> what would ndiswrapper do? when i already have the drivers installed... well might as well try it...
[05:53] <micahcowan> AngryElf_, no; what is the exact line you added?
[05:53] <dabbler> when do the mirrors get updated ? getting errors after attempting an upgrade.
[05:53] <dabbler> Err http://za.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe librss1 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.1
[05:53] <dabbler> same for 18 packages
[05:53] <gatekeeper> Alex0r, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:53] <stjepan> Hoblaa, use ndiswrapper
[05:54] <AngryElf_> micahcowan, well i did try yours, this time I added 'username ALL=(ALL) aLL' which doesn't work
[05:54] <Plugh> dpkg --install /path/to/files/on/dvd/*.deb
[05:54] <Luka1> Is there somebody who use totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin?
[05:54] <AngryElf_> micahcowan, should be all caps at the end there
[05:54] <Senesence> How do I run applications downloaded through synaptic? They don't show anywhere on my desktop.
[05:54] <James> Hello, I'm a linux n00b and just installed ubuntu on a PPC, imac g3 350mhz, 1 gig ram. It installed fine and boots up great. Goes to the log in screen and prompts me for the password and username... I enter that, it starts logging on
[05:54] <jrib> Senesence: what application?
[05:54] <geekdom> erUSUL:  who did you make your text show up in red ?  I used to know this :)
[05:54] <James> Then I get an error message about something from nautilus
[05:54] <stjepan> Hoblaa, you there?
[05:54] <Senesence> jrib: gromacs
[05:54] <Alex0r> james: try repairing the install
[05:55] <Hoblaa> stjepan: yes. in private...
should this install everything, as i wondering where all the dependencies are? are they also in that folder i burned
[05:55] <micahcowan> AngryElf, does visudo reject that, or it just doesn't seem to do what you want?
[05:55] <gatekeeper> Luka1, think mine is totem-xine not on my linux right at this moment
[05:55] <nilesh892003> how to install cedega in ubuntu dappar
[05:55] <nilesh892003> ?
[05:55] <aro_ron> hey I have a problem thats driving me crazy, and may have just made me lose some needed files
[05:55] <Luka1> I can not play with totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin  this video:http://www.ct24.cz/vysilani/
[05:55] <AngryElf_> micahcowan, it doesn't reject it, 'shutdown' says perm denied
 if they are is there anyway i can force the install even if it thinks the dependencies arent there
[05:55] <James> ok alex0r.
[05:55] <aro_ron> Ubuntu seems to write to my FAT32 partition fine
[05:55] <Alex0r> James: can I get the exact error message?
[05:55] <aro_ron> but after booting into windows
[05:55] <aro_ron> the files are gone
[05:55] <SGL> Hello
  if they are is there anyway i can force the install even if it thinks the dependencies arent there
[05:56] <Plugh> Paddy_EIRE: An alternative would be to use the Synaptic package manager tool located under System/Administration menu. That tool has a File drop down menu which an entry to add a directory. You could use it to point to the directory of the DVD with all the .deb files.
[05:56] <aro_ron> and then ubuntu cant see them any more either
[05:56] <James> There's several error messages. I wrote 'em down. justa sec.
[05:56] <micahcowan> AngryElf_, Is it being run via sudo?
[05:56] <SGL> Is there a way to install apache 2.2 using apt-get???
[05:56] <aro_ron> and I think I just lost an entire digicam card download
[05:56] <AngryElf_> micahcowan, no, that's the point
[05:56] <stjepan> Hoblaa, can you here me in private?
[05:56] <aro_ron> can anyone help?
[05:56] <Alex0r> apt-get install apache2
[05:56] <Alex0r> i think
[05:56] <nilesh892003> how to install cedega in ubuntu?
[05:56] <James> "Nautilus can't be used now due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server.
[05:56] <stjepan> !cedega
[05:56] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:56] <jrib> Senesence: you can type 'dpkg -L gromacs | grep bin
[05:56] <James> 2nd is "error 3"
 cheers man im gonna go give these a try
[05:56] <Senesence> jrib: what will that do?
[05:56] <micahcowan> Well, if you're not using sudo, then nothing you do to sudoers will make any difference... I believe you can do what you want via configuration settings in /etc/pam.d/, but the particulars...
[05:57] <Alex0r> hmm, weird
[05:57] <micahcowan> AngryElf_: ^^^
[05:57] <James> Then system exception :omg.org/cobra/comm_failure:1.0
[05:57] <jrib> Senesence: you can type 'dpkg -L gromacs | grep bin' to get an idea of the binaries it installed.  There is a tab in synaptic that will let you see the same info
[05:57] <stjepan> Hoblaa, ?
[05:57] <SGL> Is there a way to install apache 2.2 using apt-get???
[05:57] <Hoblaa> stjepan: the ndiswrapper is installed...
[05:57] <Alex0r> Did you try apt-get install apache2
[05:57] <James> Yeah, tried googling for about 30 minutes, couldn't find anything.
[05:57] <Senesence> jrib: where is the tab in synaptic? Whats it called?
[05:57] <SGL> Alex0r: Yes, but I require the newer version
[05:57] <Alex0r> Oh
[05:57] <Alex0r> Ermm
[05:57] <gekko`> does anybody know how I can change the charset of eterm?
[05:57] <Hoblaa> stjepan: said the same thing in priv
[05:57] <Alex0r> There should be some repositories
[05:58] <Alex0r> repositorys*
[05:58] <AngryElf_> micahcowan, er i got it, thanx for stating the obvious to me :)
[05:58] <Hoblaa> stjepan: i can hear you well... you can't me?
[05:58] <Alex0r> James: yeah, I've never seen that error
[05:58] <Alex0r> James: try re-installing,
[05:58] <micahcowan> AngryElf_: :-)
[05:58] <jrib> Senesence: right click on the package, click properties, and go to "INstalled Files"
[05:58] <James> This is the 3rd time reinstalling it :(
[05:58] <stjepan> Hoblaa, no I don't hear you
[05:58] <James> Even tried from live cd
[05:58] <James> same error everytime.
[05:58] <Linkiboy> hello i'm new to linux and i have a question....
[05:58] <Alex0r> Weird
[05:58] <James> Tried from alternate CD too.
[05:58] <Alex0r> Definately weird
[05:59] <stjepan> Hoblaa, open system>administration>networking. Can you see ra0 or wlan0 in the list?
[05:59] <Plugh> Linkiboy: You've got questions. We've got answers.
[05:59] <Hoblaa> stjepan: ra0 is there
[05:59] <stjepan> great
[05:59] <jrib> Senesence: 'man gromacs' might help you with actually using it, since there seem to be quite a bit of binaries installed
[05:59] <Linkiboy> how easy is it to intall ubuntu with dualboot(windows being the other OS)?
[05:59] <cycom> Plugh: you've got questions? We've got blank stares.
[05:59] <cello_rasp> hi. I'm using GIMP 2.2.11 (under ubuntu 6.06) and the tab settings do not save. is this common?
[05:59] <Alex0r> Easy
[05:59] <stjepan> Hoblaa, do you use encryption?
[05:59] <Linkiboy> other linux distros make it hard
[05:59] <James> Pretty easy linkiboy
[05:59] <Alex0r> Make a new partition using Norton PM and then install ubuntu onto that
[05:59] <Hoblaa> stjepan: hopefully wpa...
[05:59] <stjepan> Hoblaa, WPA?
[06:00] <Alex0r> Easiest way
[06:00] <Hoblaa> stjepan: yep
[06:00] <stjepan> Hoblaa, so click on ra0 and then properties
[06:00] <Plugh> cycom: yeah, for some questions that is about all the response you might get
[06:00] <cello_rasp> Linkiboy: super easy. just pay attention to what the partitioner says and you cant go wrong
[06:00] <Alex0r> James: Yeah, I cant find anything on it
[06:00] <Hoblaa> stjepan: yes?
[06:00] <Alex0r> James: Sorry
[06:00] <stjepan> Hoblaa, type the wpa key there
[06:00] <Hoblaa> where in there?
[06:00] <dabbler> create a partiotion, but dont format it
[06:00] <Linkiboy> Ok thank you
[06:00] <Hoblaa> to the wep or what?
[06:00] <gatekeeper> Linkiboy, that easy :-) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[06:00] <stjepan> Hoblaa, somwhere in the properties window
[06:01] <Linkiboy> I have 1 more question... is the rt2500usb supported outof the box? or do i have t use ndiswrapper again?
[06:01] <James> ^^^^ lol at the video
[06:01] <stjepan> Hoblaa, did you type the wpa key there?
[06:01] <`JB> Linkiboy: As a nebee I just did and it went pretty well. Let Ubuntu do the partition work .. it is better than other options
[06:02] <Hoblaa> stjepan: yes
[06:02] <Alex0r> oh how i wish flash in my firefox worked
[06:02] <Alex0r> it has no sound
[06:02] <Alex0r> :@
[06:02] <James> Guys, does anyone know of a good distro that'd work good on 32bit PPC? :(
[06:02] <Jonaid> Hello all! I've just installed Ubuntu for the 1st time! :D
[06:02] <James> Ubuntu ain't working
[06:02] <Keaton> Congrats, Jonaid.
[06:02] <gatekeeper> Alex0r, 64Bit ?
[06:02] <Alex0r> No..
[06:02] <erUSUL> Linkiboy: i use rt2500pci but i compile my own drivers... http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads i think that they come with dapper...
[06:03] <Plugh> Jonaid: Welcome to the world of Ubuntu
[06:03] <Alex0r> I installed the one thats like
[06:03] <constantine-xvi> Alex0r: 'sudo ln -s /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0' in ther terminal
[06:03] <Hoblaa> stjepan: hello?
[06:03] <Jonaid> liking it loads but this is my 1st linux distro and have a question about security. Do i need to install like antivirus/firewall related programs?
[06:03] <Alex0r> ok..
[06:03] <constantine-xvi> Alex0r: then restart your browser
[06:03] <stjepan> Hoblaa, now close the properties window
[06:03] <Alex0r> kk, thanks
[06:03] <stjepan> Hoblaa, click deactivate and then activate
[06:03] <Alex0r> !lamp
[06:03] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:04] <shadow42> Jonaid: Preferably
[06:04] <stjepan> Hoblaa, and now you should be connected
[06:04] <Plugh> In Ubuntu 5.10 I could say log out and have the option of ticking a box to save my session. I don't seem to have that option in 6.06
[06:04] <shadow42> Jonaid: If you go to Applications>Add/Remove, you can install a firewall
[06:05] <Jonaid> ah thanks. I'm on it...
[06:05] <Linkiboy> Alright everyone, time to install ubuntu
[06:05] <stjepan> Hoblaa,
[06:05] <Linkiboy> if i fry my system i'm blaming it on you :P
[06:05] <Senesence> "man gromacs" does nothing, and I can't seem to find even one binary. Shouldn't synaptic automatically add a menu item in the application section?
[06:05] <stjepan>  Hoblaa sry I must go now :( bye
[06:05] <`JB> good luck
[06:05] <Plugh> How do I snapshot my current session but only when I want and not everytime I log out?
[06:05] <James> Sorry to ask again, but does anyone have any experience with the following error "nautilus can't be used now to do an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server"
[06:05] <gatekeeper> Linkiboy, got windows on your hdd?
[06:05] <James> This is on a 32bit PPC imac
[06:06] <Alex0r> constantine: that didn't do anything at all..
[06:06] <jrib> James: I've seen a couple of people come in here with that error, is that on a live cd or on an actual install?
[06:06] <James> Both
[06:06] <gatekeeper> ooops too late
[06:06] <James> On the live and on the install
[06:06] <James> Boots up fine, goes to log on prompt
[06:06] <Keaton> I've been having a problem with my Ubuntu live CD. When it boots up, no matter what I've selected, the screen resolution is always 640x480.
[06:06] <James> I even try it in safe mode and get the same
[06:06] <jbroome> !resolution > Keaton
[06:06] <jrib> James: check launchpad for a bug report, the others may have filed one and gotten some feedback, forums might be worth a try as well
[06:07] <James> Ok, I'll check that out
[06:07] <orbin> jbroome: can he alter system config files or  reconfigure the xorg package on the livecd?
[06:07] <constantine-xvi> i have a package that raises an error whenever I try to install or uninstall it, there appears to be no way to get rid of it
[06:08] <constantine-xvi> is there any way to do a "brute force" removal of a package from apt?
[06:08] <jhasse> I have problems with MySQL + PHP5: I get error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/connect.php on line 2   But phpmyadmin is working. What can i do?
[06:08] <guy22> how do i force one package to reinstall, eg if a system file is deleted
[06:09] <mdirc> Could someone please direct me to some instructions on installing oracle 10g release 2 on ubuntu 6.0.6 desktop installation. TIA.
[06:09] <elkbuntu> jhasse, make sure php5-mysql (i think that's the package name) is installed
[06:09] <jrib> guy22: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package, if that doesn't work, remove it, and then install it again
[06:09] <Senesence> Installed gromacs through synaptic, can't find a single executable. Help.
[06:09] <guy22> thx
[06:09] <stefg> guy22: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[06:09] <jhasse> elkbuntu: yes it is, what can i do?
[06:09] <jrib> Senesence: did you try 'man gromacs'?
[06:09] <J_P> hi all
[06:10] <Hoblaa> well stjepans's guide crashed the whole system...
[06:10] <Senesence> jrib: yea got "no documentation"
[06:10] <constantine-xvi> Senesence: right-click the package, probperties, installed files
[06:10] <gatekeeper> jhasse, I would hazard a guess that you need to set up a user in mysql so mysql_connect() will work
[06:10] <Alex0r> Lmfao hoblaa.
[06:10] <Hoblaa> any other suggestions?
[06:10] <santa99> !w32codec
[06:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:10] <jrib> Senesence: install gromacs-doc
[06:10] <santa99> !w32codecs
[06:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:10] <jhasse> gatekeeper, How can i do that?
[06:11] <guy22> w00t ATI DRI working
[06:11] <jrib> Senesence: after you install that, the man page should be available, and usr/share/doc/gromacs/manual.pdf will probably be worth a read too
[06:11] <trojan> siema, jest ktos z polski?
[06:11] <mwe> !pl
[06:11] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:11] <trojan> ale nie wiem jak wejsc tam
[06:11] <Senesence> jrib: shouldn't that already be done by synaptic?
[06:12] <gnomefreak> !pl
[06:12] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:12] <gatekeeper> jhasse, sorry not sure, it's a while since I have used mysql, and haven't really tried setting it up on linux
[06:12] <jrib> Senesence: what should?
[06:12] <Senesence> jrib: doc installation etc
[06:12] <Hoblaa> this somewhat annoying. every other gyu and howto is saying that they have made it and it is easy in dapper... hell yea it is... i have been working with this thing from the morning...
[06:12] <jhasse> gatekeeper, do you know where i can get further help?
[06:12] <jrib> Senesence: the gromacs package only recommends gromacs-doc, synaptic doesn't install recommends by default I believe
[06:12] <Alex0r> ok, I installed flashplugin-nonfree and it doesnt give me any sound in firefox when watching a flash movie or whatever
[06:13] <theBishop> is there a free alternative to the Adobe/Macromedia Flash Editor (even if its not the Flash format)?
[06:13] <Alex0r> should I uninstall it
[06:13] <mwe> Alex0r: or fix it
[06:13] <gnomefreak> theBishop: gplflash
[06:13] <Alex0r> I don't know how
[06:13] <Senesence> jrib: but it should install the binarys, right? Well I cant find a single one.
[06:13] <jrib> Senesence: does /usr/bin/highway exist?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> !flash > theBishop
[06:13] <mwe> Alex0r: search the forums. there are lots of threads dealing with it.
[06:13] <theBishop> Alex0r: http://roel.wordpress.com/2005/10/19/fix-sound-for-flash-on-ubuntu/
[06:14] <gnomefreak> theBishop: its on the link ubotu sent you
[06:14] <gatekeeper> jhasse, someone here with more knowledge than, or ubuntu wiki or forums, does phpmyadmin work?
[06:14] <elkbuntu> jhasse, gatekeeper, there should aready be users made. It's too late for me to think properly now. jhasse try #mysql they might be able to help ;)
[06:14] <Veselin> can anyone help me with a tricky problem?
[06:14] <Hoblaa> isn't there anyone else who has made it to th internet with the rt61 drivers?
[06:14] <mdirc>  Could someone please direct me to some instructions on installing oracle 10g release 2 on ubuntu 6.0.6 desktop installation. TIA.
[06:14] <jrib> Veselin: we can only know after you tell us the problem :)
[06:15] <mwe> theBishop: the only problem with that is it doesn't work if you manually installed a newer version of FF
[06:15] <mari_marchal> ola
[06:15] <stefg> !oracle
[06:15] <theBishop> gnomefreak: i'm not looking for a flashplayer, i'm looking for an Editor
[06:15] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[06:15] <gatekeeper> thanks elkbuntu
[06:15] <jhasse> gatekeeper, elkbuntu, thx, i will ask there. Yes phpmyadmin is working fine
[06:15] <Veselin> trying to set up rssh with chroot
[06:15] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[06:15] <Senesence> jrib: Yea, it does. Is that the gromacs executable?
[06:15] <theBishop> gnomefreak: or any vector graphic animator
[06:15] <Veselin> doesn't work; can login but cannot execute sftp-server (No such file or directory)
[06:15] <elkbuntu> jhasse, afaik phpmyadmin works different to php and mysql normally, so you cannot use it as a guide really
[06:16] <mwe> theBishop: svg
[06:16] <Alex0r> mwe: whats the un-install command
[06:16] <jrib> Senesence: that is _an_ executable installed by gromacs... you can type 'dpkg -L gromacs | grep bin' to see all the stuff it installed to /usr/bin.  Since there are a lot of them, you probably want to read the docs to see how the program works
[06:16] <gatekeeper> jhasse, suggest you do what elkbuntu says, all I can do is make educated guesses
[06:16] <mwe> Alex0r: you don't wanna fix it?
[06:16] <Alex0r> which would be easier?
[06:16] <mwe> Alex0r: sudo aptitude remove whateverthenamewas
[06:17] <mwe> Alex0r: reinstalling it wont fix it
[06:17] <Alex0r> I had flashplugin-nonfree
[06:17] <Alex0r> Is that what I want?
[06:17] <Veselin> also tried 'chroot /chroot/dir /bin/bash' and it failes at execve of /bin/bash
[06:17] <FarrisG> Can someone help me get the hdaps module loaded? I'm using Dapper, 2.6.15-26, on a Thinkpad I know for certain has the proper hardware (it works in windoze). When I do "modprobe hdaps" I get: "No such device or address". Do I just need to somehow create a device node for the stuff?
[06:17] <gatekeeper> elamericano, jhasse I will have to set one up so I know the answer :-)
[06:18] <xst> I have just updated my installation and now kopete doesn't work: When I try to go online it tells me that the ICQ server thinks my application is too old. What to do?
[06:18] <jhasse> gatekeeper, elkbuntu, i will ask in #php
[06:18] <AaronShaf> I excited an apt-get operation, how do I unlock the stuff now?
[06:18] <Senesence> jrib: Wow, that's many alright. So I guess gromacs isn't just one tidy application.
[06:18] <elkbuntu> jhasse, no, dont
[06:18] <elkbuntu> jhasse, they're meanies in there
[06:18] <mwe> Alex0r: it is the right one but firefox sound setup is broken by default
[06:18] <jhasse> elkbuntu, #mysql-people told me to go there
[06:18] <Alex0r> ooh
[06:18] <Alex0r> okay
[06:19] <cerda> how do i turn off iptables??
[06:19] <elkbuntu> jhasse, oh ok... be careful how you ask then. they're elitist at times
[06:19] <orbin> AaronShaf: you excited it?
[06:19] <AaronShaf> exited it
[06:19] <mwe> Alex0r: search the forums there are numerous threads dealing with it
[06:19] <jhasse> elkbuntu okay^^
[06:19] <AaronShaf> heh
[06:19] <Alex0r> the forums = down
[06:19] <orbin> AaronShaf: what operationg?
[06:19] <gatekeeper> elamericano, woow! the php news groups have always been kind to me
[06:19] <orbin> operation rather
[06:19] <AaronShaf> I try "ps aux" and then try to kill the apt-get process, but it won't die
[06:19] <jrib> Senesence: http://www.gromacs.org/ seems to have some intro tutorials
[06:19] <AaronShaf> the bloody process is immortal
[06:20] <orbin> AaronShaf: how did you "exit" it?
[06:20] <micahcowan> cerda: permanently?
[06:20] <Senesence> jrib:  Thank you.
[06:20] <AaronShaf> crtl C or X or something like that
[06:20] <constantine-xvi> is there any way to "brute-force" remove a package?
[06:20] <cerda> micahcowan if that works, yes
[06:20] <orbin> AaronShaf: actrl+c should've killed it
[06:20] <jrib> Senesence: np
[06:20] <mnvl> is there an easy way to get hold of the original source code to the binary packages that are installed via apt?
[06:20] <constantine-xvi> AarmnShaf: have you tried a sudo kill?
[06:20] <jhasse> elkbuntu, they say i should build it from sources :(
[06:20] <mwe> Alex0r: did you update firefox manually?
[06:20] <Alex0r> nope
[06:20] <micahcowan> cerda: temporarily, it's "iptables -F".
[06:20] <elkbuntu> jhasse, bull
[06:20] <Alex0r> i installed the update just now
[06:20] <constantine-xvi> mnvl: apt-get source (package)
[06:21] <elkbuntu> jhasse, you do not need to do that with ubuntu at all
[06:21] <erUSUL> mnvl: add deb-src repos and use what constantine-xvi told you
[06:21] <elkbuntu> jhasse, for php, mysql that is
[06:21] <AaronShaf> now I get this: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:21] <AaronShaf> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:21] <AaronShaf> "
[06:21] <jhasse> elkbuntu, yeah, i think too
[06:21] <mwe> Alex0r: well then sudo aptitude install alsa-oss; gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change FIREFOX_DSP=aoss
[06:21] <gatekeeper> mnvl, you talking about build-essentials etc?
[06:21] <constantine-xvi> mnvl: also apt-get build-dep (package) to get build dependicies
[06:21] <elkbuntu> i have no idea what to suggest at the moment though, im almost asleep, so sorry :(
[06:21] <jhasse> elkbuntu, why must everything be so complicated on linux??!
[06:22] <micahcowan> cerda: permanently, after the "iptables -F", you probably run iptables-save with output going to a file, but I'm not sure what that file is for ubuntu...
[06:22] <Urmac> Are there currently any known issues with the splash screen when booting up? When I do "nosplash" Ubuntu boots up fine with my Shuttle PCs
[06:22] <frosty_badfish> constantine-xvi: sudo apt-get remove --purge <pakage>
[06:22] <elkbuntu> jhasse, it's not. i can promise you that setting up apache/php/mysql on windows without an insecure installer is much harder
[06:22] <mwe> I haven't got too great results with apt-get build-dep
[06:22] <mnvl> well, i want to look at the source code for some packages, but the same versions and patches as the installed package
[06:22] <J_P> hey all, anyone can try open this page : http://geospatial.nomad-labs.com/   ? Becouse qhen ai open here firefox congeals. I am using dapper +firefox 1.5.0.5
[06:23] <constantine-xvi> frosty_badfish: the package refuses to die!
[06:23] <mnvl> apt-get build-dep installs the dependencies required to rebuild smth from source?
[06:23] <Alex0r> mwe: yay, it didnt do anything :/
[06:23] <mwe> Alex0r: did you edit the file?
[06:23] <constantine-xvi> mnvl: yes, at least it's supposed to
[06:24] <Alex0r> mwe: what was i supposed to put in..
[06:24] <mnvl> ok
[06:24] <mwe> Alex0r: what I told you
[06:24] <AaronShaf> So my basic problem is that I can't kill a process
[06:24] <mwe> Alex0r: search for FIREFOX_DSP and change it to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[06:24] <gatekeeper> jhasse, they are telling you to build from source to get mysql_connect working?
[06:24] <AaronShaf> I do "kill 3849" and the blood process is still there
[06:24] <elkbuntu> jhasse, just out of curiosity, could you try restarting apache?
[06:25] <mwe> AaronShaf: try kill -9
[06:25] <elkbuntu> gatekeeper, i would believe him. they're horrible like that
[06:25] <mwe> AaronShaf: or sudo kill -9
[06:25] <constantine-xvi> AaronShaf: 'sudo killall apt-get -9' until you get "no procs killed"
[06:25] <AaronShaf> that did the trick
[06:25] <AaronShaf> thanks
[06:26] <dapet> How do you load a driver to thekernel?
[06:26] <gatekeeper> elkbuntu, that's what I was thinking, sounds like just trying to get rid of someone, or they don't have a clue themselves
[06:26] <Veselin> hi, need help with chroot!
[06:26] <Alex0r> mwe: OMFG I LOVE YOU!!!!
[06:26] <mwe> AaronShaf: kill -9 can sometimes cause problems though I have very rarely expeirenced it
[06:26] <Alex0r> mwe: it worked!!!!
[06:26] <elkbuntu> gatekeeper, they really are horrible to get information from
[06:26] <mwe> Alex0r: yeah I rock
[06:26] <Alex0r> mwe: indeed :D
[06:26] <mwe> heh
[06:26] <micahcowan> dapet: typically, via insmod (or better, modprobe). This would be done as root (using sudo).
[06:27] <mwe> Alex0r: increase the FF cache though
[06:27] <santa99> what do i have to install that i can watch .wmv files with Totem
[06:27] <frosty_badfish> constantine-xvi: well there is another option, but I.ve never used it : --force-yes (well it is at your own risk)
[06:27] <mwe> Alex0r: to 100 MB or so
[06:27] <dapet> ohhh thanks :D
[06:27] <Alex0r> mwe: firefox cache?
[06:27] <mwe> Alex0r: yes
[06:27] <Alex0r> mwe: oh yeah
[06:27] <elkbuntu> gatekeeper, if he jhasse returns, can you get him to check the fixes listed in the comments on this page: http://www.idealog.us/2005/01/howto_fix_fatal.html
[06:27] <mwe> Alex0r: in the firefox settings
[06:27] <Alex0r> yea
[06:27] <Urmac> Anyone: Are there currently any known issues with the splash screen when booting up? When I do "nosplash" Ubuntu boots up fine with my Shuttle PCs
[06:27] <Alex0r> me knows
[06:27] <santa99> !wmv
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <shanka1> errot
[06:27] <gatekeeper> elkbuntu, ok
[06:27] <gnomefreak> santa99: w32codecs afaik
[06:27] <santa99> ok
[06:27] <elkbuntu> gatekeeper, i really have to go to bed. thanks :)
[06:28] <mwe> santa99: some new wmv files don't work in linux for now
[06:28] <jhasse> gatekeeper, elkbuntu, i have solved: Reinstalled packages
[06:28] <gatekeeper> elkbuntu, have a good nights sleep
[06:28] <mwe> santa99: the w32codecs should make most of them work
[06:28] <jhasse> gatekeeper, elkbuntu, dunno what had been wrong
[06:28] <santa99> mwe: thought so
[06:28] <J_P> hey all, anyone can try open this page : http://geospatial.nomad-labs.com/   ? Becouse qhen ai open here firefox congeals. I am using dapper +firefox 1.5.0.5 . Anyone can test that page for me ?
[06:28] <cocox> hello! anyone knows which application should i use to make an image of my / partition to burn it into a DVD ? something like GHOST in windows.... thank u
[06:28] <shanka1> :)
[06:28] <elkbuntu> jhasse, order of installation possibly. I really dont know. but im glad it's fixed :)
[06:29] <mwe> santa99: I wish nobody was using that crap propriatry format
[06:29] <dapet> to modprope you just write "sudo modprobe Direktory/file???
[06:29] <santa99> mwe: that would be good
[06:29] <jhasse> elkbuntu, gatekeeper, Yes, thank you for your help.
[06:29] <Alex0r> mwe: flash is lagging out now :/ i increased the cache, and now when i view a flash video firefox crashes
[06:29] <santa99> !w32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:29] <mwe> Alex0r: oh
[06:29] <santa99> !w32codec
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:30] <santa99> !w32codecs
[06:30] <gatekeeper> jhasse, hang on..
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <mwe> Alex0r: does it crash everytime?
[06:30] <Alex0r> mwe: nope
[06:30] <Alex0r> mwe: but the sound is a bit laggy
[06:30] <keys> Does prelink work, does it speed up you system?
[06:30] <mwe> Alex0r: yes
[06:30] <Urmac> Are there currently any known issues with the splash screen when booting up? When I do "nosplash" Ubuntu boots up fine with my Shuttle PCs
[06:30] <dapet> to modprope you just write "sudo modprobe Direktory/file???
[06:30] <gatekeeper> jhasse, elkbuntu said have a look at this: http://www.idealog.us/2005/01/howto_fix_fatal.html
[06:30] <mwe> Alex0r: nothing to do about that AFAIK
[06:30] <Jonaid> hey all. I'm new at this linux thing. I'm looking to install a different set of drivers for my graphics card. Its a radeon 9700 mobility. The drivers on ubuntu seem to add a lag that i've seen when the incorrect or old drivers are installed in windows. Can someone help me?
[06:30] <Alex0r> mwe: yeah, it isnt so bad, thanks
[06:31] <zoidberg> guys i have a problem PLEASE HELP  ME!!
[06:31] <zoidberg>  well I have this g3 powerbook (old one w/64 mb ram) that i have xubuntu badger on
 when i was at school it would connect to the school internet via ethernet or wireless without any problems
 but now i am home and i cant get it to connect to the Cavalier DSL we have heere through DSL
[06:31] <mwe> Alex0r: a new player should be coming out later this year
[06:31] <zoidberg> HELP!!
[06:31] <htv8> f
[06:31] <Alex0r> mwe: yay
[06:31] <htv8> ok one last question I think
[06:31] <dapet> when i have to modprope I just write "sudo modprobe Direktory/file???
[06:31] <keys> Any opions on prelinking?
[06:31] <htv8> I now have a 20 GB hard disk
[06:32] <htv8> what's the best way to partition it?
[06:32] <mdirc> !oracle
[06:32] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[06:32] <cocox> hello! anyone knows which application should i use to make an image of my / partition to burn it into a DVD ? something like GHOST in windows.... thank u
[06:32] <mwe> dapet: you don't need the path
[06:32] <htv8> how many for / (root /home and linux memory?
[06:32] <mwe> dapet: just the module name
[06:32] <zoidberg>  well I have this g3 powerbook (old one w/64 mb ram) that i have xubuntu badger on
 when i was at school it would connect to the school internet via ethernet or wireless without any problems
 but now i am home and i cant get it to connect to the Cavalier DSL we have heere through DSL
[06:32] <dapet> ohhh thanks :D
[06:32] <zoidberg> HELP!!!
[06:32] <Ng> that oracle factoid seems needlessly petulant ;)
[06:32] <mwe> dapet: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper for example
[06:32] <Senesence> Almost all my file system files are owned by root not me, so I can't access them. How do I fix that?>
[06:32] <htv8> anyone?
[06:33] <dapet> okay thanks :D
[06:33] <zoidberg> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!
[06:33] <mwe> dapet: if you use a path, you need to use inmod but that wont handle loading dependency modules
[06:33] <Urmac> If I want someone to answer me, do I need to address them directly?
[06:33] <Urmac> If I want someone to answer me, do I need to address them directly?
[06:33] <micahcowan> htv8: swap should be at least as much as you have RAM.
[06:33] <zoidberg>  well I have this g3 powerbook (old one w/64 mb ram) that i have xubuntu badger on
 when i was at school it would connect to the school internet via ethernet or wireless without any problems
 but now i am home and i cant get it to connect to the Cavalier DSL we have heere through DSL
[06:33] <zoidberg>  well I have this g3 powerbook (old one w/64 mb ram) that i have xubuntu badger on
 when i was at school it would connect to the school internet via ethernet or wireless without any problems
 but now i am home and i cant get it to connect to the Cavalier DSL we have heere through DSL
[06:34] <zoidberg>  well I have this g3 powerbook (old one w/64 mb ram) that i have xubuntu badger on
 when i was at school it would connect to the school internet via ethernet or wireless without any problems
[06:34] <htv8> yeah I know
 but now i am home and i cant get it to connect to the Cavalier DSL we have heere through DSL
[06:34] <mwe> zoidberg: stop
[06:34] <Urmac> zoidberg: Don't spam the channel please.
[06:34] <POVaddct> zoidberg: ever tried pppoeconf?
[06:34] <htv8> I've 512 mb ram so I'll take 1 GB for that
[06:34] <htv8> 19 GB to partition :P
[06:34] <zoidberg> what is that ?
[06:34] <htv8> how many for root?
[06:34] <zoidberg> pppoeconf?
[06:34] <Urmac> zoidberg: google it
[06:34] <POVaddct> zoidberg: config tool (text mode) for DSL (PPP over Ethernet)
[06:34] <micahcowan> htv8, personally, I don't use a separate partition for /home... and I use a 100mb partition for /boot IIRC
[06:35] <gatekeeper> htv8, with that size I would be tempted to keep / & /home in the same partition, install takes about 4Gb I think
[06:35] <Senesence> Anyone know how to unlock the File System folders, so that they are owned by the user and not "root".
[06:35] <Urmac> gatekeeper: If I want someone to answer me, do I need to address them directly?
[06:35] <micahcowan> htv8, you want / as big as possible, unless you're using a separate partition for /usr (unnecessary, I should think).
[06:35] <Spec> micahcowan: you should separate out /home and have it live on an encrypted filesystem
[06:35] <htv8> ok so take 19 GB for root and data?
[06:35] <htv8> no partitioning?
[06:35] <micahcowan> Spec, why?
[06:35] <Spec> Urmac: no, but they might miss it if there's lots of text scrolling
[06:35] <POVaddct> zoidberg: but i don't know your provider, so i can't tell if it is using PPPoE or some other shit
[06:35] <Spec> micahcowan: why else would you wear a tin foil hat?
[06:35] <Urmac> Spec: Thank you
[06:35] <ananke> i'm setting up our local ubuntu mirror, and i was wondering - what's the approximate size of all the pools?
[06:36] <gatekeeper> Urmac, helps if you are having a conversation with them, otherwise no
[06:36] <Urmac> gatekeeper: thank you
[06:36] <cocox> hello! anyone knows which application should i use to make an image of my / partition to burn it into a DVD ? something like GHOST in windows.... thank u
[06:36] <mwe> htv8: with 19 GB I would configure synatic to not cache the downloaded files
[06:36] <htv8> ok thank you :)
[06:36] <gatekeeper> Urmac, yw :-)
[06:36] <htv8> i'll have to figure out that later about synatic :P
[06:37] <mwe> htv8: yeah. it's easy though
[06:37] <htv8> so i'll take 19 GB for both root and data
[06:37] <m1ckeyknox> is there a way, without samba, to get files from a windows share?
[06:37] <htv8> I hope 20 GB is enough ...
[06:37] <htv8> :S
[06:37] <Urmac> m1ckeyknox: I don't believe there is. That's what samba is specifically used for
[06:37] <htv8> it's the only option available otherwise I've to reformat my other drive and reinstall windows
[06:37] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : pretty much every client uses samba libraries
[06:38] <mwe> htv8: 20GB is fine unless you plan on keeping your movie collection there or something
[06:38] <htv8> ok :P
[06:38] <m1ckeyknox> problem I'm having is that I don't control the web server at our company. I'd like to get samba on there... so that I can map a windows share and copy files automatically to the web server
[06:38] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : for example kde's smb://user@host/ kioslave
[06:38] <htv8> thanks
[06:38] <gatekeeper> htv8, 20Gb will be fine, there is a howto backup on the ubuntu forums that would be worth using too
[06:38] <htv8> i'll try
[06:38] <htv8> thank you for the help :D
[06:38] <htv8> i appreciate that
[06:38] <htv8> i'll be right back later
[06:38] <dgl> How can I set a file encode?
[06:38] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : you don't need a full blown samba there. just samba libs, samba client
[06:38] <gatekeeper> htv8, good luck :-)
[06:39] <Pelo> good afternoon eveyone, I'm having an odd little problem,  nautilus is no longer responding when I try to get into my /home/user/ dir it opens up an mty window with toolbar and status bar and then it just freeze, no  content,
[06:39] <Pelo> I need to kill that window and then it jsut opens up a new one,  with the same aspect
[06:39] <m1ckeyknox> the admin that controls the server is concerned about the server having to answer requests that might be directed at the server to exploit windows networking vulnerabilities... not that it would be infected... but that it would simply have to answer because the samba service is running.
[06:39] <Pelo> and if I kill that one it jsut start over
[06:39] <zoidberg> HELP --- I CANNOT FIND PPPOECONF PACKAGE FOR POWERPC!!!!!!!
[06:40] <mwe> Pelo: odd. did you mess up the perms of some files or directories?
[06:40] <m1ckeyknox> couldn't some sort of configuration be setup to prevent outside traffic?
[06:40] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : uhmm, the _client_ does not have to have anything running
[06:40] <Spec> what does: 1.2.14.1-2ubuntu1  tell me about the package? (the 2ubuntu1 part?)
[06:40] <Spec> !versions
[06:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about versions - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:40] <Pelo> mwe  perms ?  no the last thing I did was install the new wine  , well upgrade
[06:40] <mwe> zoidberg: all caps is annoying and tends to get you banned if used repeatedly
[06:40] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : windows file/print sharing is uses a client/server model. samba is both client and a server.
[06:40] <zoidberg> sorry
[06:40] <cocox> hello! anyone knows which application should i use to make an image of my / partition to burn it into a DVD ? something like GHOST in windows.... thank u
[06:41] <Jonaid> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor. <<< WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? FILE CAN'T BE WRITTEN OR FILE ISN'T THERE?
[06:41] <m1ckeyknox> ananke: hm. your two messages don't seem to make sense together
[06:41] <Pelo> cocox  I think you can do that with gnomebaker
[06:41] <mwe> Pelo: ls -ld /home/Pelo shows you as owner and right permissions?
[06:41] <m1ckeyknox> ananke: I need samba to access windows shares... right?
[06:42] <m1ckeyknox> ananke: I also need samba to make shares available
[06:42] <enyc> m1ckeyknox: not as such... you can use the 'connect to server' thing....
[06:42] <mwe> m1ckeyknox: you just need smbfs
[06:42] <Pelo> mwe, I have permission, and using the terminal shows me my content
[06:42] <cocox> Pelo, thank u man i'll check this out
[06:43] <POVaddct> all these impatient idiots...
[06:43] <mwe> Pelo: sometimes wrong permissions of file can cause odd problems
[06:43] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : you need only PART of samba to access windows shares
[06:43] <Pelo> mwe  drwxr-xr-x 73 jean jean 4096 2006-07-31 12:41 .
[06:43] <mwe> Pelo: good
[06:43] <ananke> m1ckeyknox : and this is the first time you mention anything about serving from your web server
[06:43] <Alex0r> mwe: is flash supposed to use alot of cpu?
[06:43] <mwe> Pelo: what about find ~ -exec ls -l {} \;| grep root?
[06:43] <mwe> Alex0r: I think so yes
[06:43] <Alex0r> mwe: when im watching a flash movie my cpu usage goes flying high
[06:43] <Pelo> mwe seems to be a problem with nautilus
[06:44] <nikin> anyone experiences with GENIUS WIZARDPEN ?
[06:44] <mwe> Pelo: can it open other file locations?
[06:44] <Pelo> mwe  no,
[06:44] <Pelo> mwe and that last command gives me nothing
[06:44] <erikgz_> could i use a breezy server install cd as a livecd?
[06:45] <mwe> Pelo: ok. then that's not it
[06:45] <Alex0r> dont think so
[06:45] <erikgz> Alex0r: what's that?
[06:45] <Pelo> mwe  but applications can open files no problem,  this seems to be limited t nautilus
[06:45] <Pelo> akl
[06:45] <Pelo> afk
[06:45] <mwe> Alex0r: my cpu goes to full speed when I watch flash movies as well
[06:45] <mwe> Pelo: yes
[06:45] <GUARDiAN|nb> is it possible to create subfolders in "network places", and put the mounts there?
[06:45] <Alex0r> erikgz: i dont think so, why is you using 5
[06:45] <nikin> mwe: what cpu do you have?
[06:46] <Alex0r> nikin: I have a 3.73GHZ P4 :)
[06:46] <nikin> hmm :D
[06:46] <Alex0r> nikin: With HT, which is dumb and useless :D
[06:46] <erikgz> Alex0r: i want to use a livecd.  i've got experience with ubuntu (working) as a livecd in 5.05
[06:46] <mwe> Pelo: it could still haved been caused from nautilus not being able to access it's config file but we ruled that out by now
[06:46] <erikgz> Alex0r: i want to use a livecd.  i've got experience with ubuntu (working) as a livecd in 5.1[
[06:46] <erikgz> ack
[06:46] <erikgz> 5.10
[06:47] <erikgz> will a 6.06 cd do the same thing?
[06:47] <Alex0r> erikgz: yes
[06:47] <cocox> hello! anyone knows which application should i use to make an image of my / partition to burn it into a DVD ? something like GHOST in windows.... thank u
[06:47] <nikin> mwe that is simply to slow for flash nowdays, get a 16 CPU system with about 64Gig RAM, that should do the job
[06:47] <Alex0r> erikgz: dapper is a live cd
[06:47] <mwe> nikin: pentium-m 1.2 GHZ
[06:47] <nikin> ;)
[06:47] <Alex0r> mwe: LOLOLOLOL
[06:47] <erikgz> so, a server _install_ cd will be a livecd?
[06:47] <erikgz> i just remember having a busybox...
[06:47] <Alex0r> erikgz: i think so
[06:47] <Alex0r> !lamp
[06:47] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:47] <mwe> Alex0r: it works ok on my pentium-m 1.2 ghz
[06:47] <Alex0r> erikgz: you could just install ubuntu then install that stuff
[06:48] <Evil_Ed`> Hi
[06:48] <Alex0r> mwe: lol, i tried it on a 2.2 ghz celeron and 256MB RAM .. it was slow
[06:48] <bubbles> hi
[06:48] <bubbles> how can i set locales with pg_createcluster?
[06:48] <mwe> Alex0r: adobe don't care about proper linux support
[06:48] <Evil_Ed`> dunno
[06:48] <Alex0r> yeah >_>
[06:49] <Pelo> mwe  killing wine didn'T seem to help
[06:49] <nikin> i have no problems with flash, (never tried fullscreen tho), and i have a P4m Dorthan 1,6Ghz
[06:49] <Alex0r> brb, me needs some advil. me is sick :(
[06:49] <mwe> Alex0r: I think they're shooting themselves in the foot though
[06:49] <Alex0r> mwe: macromedia shouldnt have sold to adobe
[06:50] <erikgz> Alex0r: i'm working on a server.  we need a livecd
[06:50] <mwe> Alex0r: macromedia didn't care either. we only got it because they were creating a player for sun
[06:50] <Alex0r> erikgz: use a ubuntu 6 livecd
[06:50] <Alex0r> mwe: yeah
[06:50] <Alex0r> BRRRRRRRB
[06:51] <erikgz> Alex0r: again, you mean the _install_ cds.  those are all i see anywhere
[06:51] <nikin> Adobe sux nowdays, there was changing in the managment i think, coz they become a biger $hit every month
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> erikgz: you need a livecd?
[06:52] <erikgz> fyrestrtr: yes.  one preferably  with ipmitool :)
[06:52] <erikgz> and a recent kernel
[06:52] <mwe> nikin: flash is evil :)
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> make your own, if the one available doesn't do what you need.
[06:52] <bubbles> how can i set locales in postgresql with pg_createcluster?
[06:52] <nikin> mwe: i worked with flash for 2 years at my job :D i know :D
[06:53] <erikgz> fyrestrtr: well, the problem being solved isn't so great as to require a custom live cd
[06:53] <erikgz> there are other workarounds
[06:53] <Alex0r> nikin: yes. adobe photoshop is good but all adobe does is spike prices. soon all their products will cost 5k
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> bubbles: this is not the postgres support channel. Try #postgresql
[06:53] <mwe> nikin: I think the idea is good but I wouldn't put the future of my company in the hands of adobe
[06:53] <Alex0r> mysql = huge, im installing it now and it's taking ages
[06:53] <bubbles> tried that, but they were way too mean
[06:53] <bubbles> they said this is debian stuff
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> !info mysql-server
[06:54] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In repository main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:54] <djancak> haha
[06:54] <nikin> Alex0r: they want to push their prizes near diskreet -s  :D
[06:54] <Alex0r> yeah
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> Alex0r: its not that big :) 35kB
[06:54] <djancak> ljoin #postgresql
[06:54] <djancak> oops
[06:54] <Alex0r> umm
[06:54] <Alex0r> it's like
[06:54] <Alex0r> over 100MB
[06:54] <Alex0r> what im installing
[06:54] <Alex0r> mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql
[06:55] <FallenHitokiri> i installed vmwareplayer get the following error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZQNPTx14.html what can i do?
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> so say that you are installing a lamp server and that's taking a while.
[06:55] <mwe> Alex0r: mine is about 60MB
[06:55] <Alex0r> mwe: yeah
[06:56] <Alex0r> mwe: now videos in flash wont show :@
[06:56] <mwe> Alex0r: oh
[06:56] <Alex0r> mwe: adobe can blow me ^_^
[06:57] <djancak> WHAT!
[06:57] <Alex0r> WHAT!
[06:57] <Alex0r> I'm joking nublet
[06:57] <djancak> sup i got blowed by adobe
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> !language
[06:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:57] <boabsta> is there an existing password entry dialogue i can use to enter a password for an encrypted file then run the encryption application with that password?
[06:57] <Alex0r> Aww
[06:57] <djancak> haha
[06:57] <Alex0r> fyrestrtr you always ruin it :(
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> boabsta: depends on this mystery 'encryption application'
[06:58] <mwe> Alex0r: flash 9 stuff wont work
[06:58] <Alex0r> ooh
[06:58] <boabsta> truecrypt - i want to automatically mount an encrypted file when i plug in my USB stick
[06:58] <Alex0r> LAME.
[06:59] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: ^
[06:59] <mwe> Alex0r: yes the player is old
[06:59] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: the encryption app is truecrypt - it rox :)
[07:00] <Pelo> un installing  nautilus reboot and resintall didn'T do shit
[07:00] <eigenlambda> how do i find out what version of a library i have installed?
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> you'd have to read up on truecrypt for that info.
[07:00] <Alex0r> mwe: when installing mysql why does my pc lag?
[07:00] <Alex0r> mwe: nevermind, that was flash again
[07:00] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: so basically i need to get a password then run truecrypt -u /media/usbstick/blah /home/boabsta/enrypteddir -p PASSWORD
[07:00] <Pelo> I can navigate some folders I have bookmarked but that is it
[07:01] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: but i obviously dont want the PASSWORD to be in the ivmConfigActions.xml file :/
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> boabsta: and you want to enter this password in a dialog box somewhere?
[07:01] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: yes
[07:01] <Alex0r> !
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <Alex0r> !alex
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about alex - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <Alex0r> brb - rebooting
[07:01] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: like some kind of generic password entry dialogue - i cant be arsed writing my own at the moment
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> I think you'll need to 'arse' yourself to do it, since its so generic.
[07:02] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: lol
[07:02] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: fair enough - just thought such a thing may already exist - reinvernting the wheel and all that
[07:03] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: thanks anyway
[07:03] <hoy> how do you edit username's "name"?
[07:03] <Pelo> manualy bookmarking my user folder seems to ahve reset the whole thing, man I hate when stuff like this happnes,  no ryme or reason
[07:04] <Pelo> what's the cli to list the current user ?
[07:04] <Hoovey> Alexor
[07:04] <Hoovey> Whoooooooops
[07:04] <diablo``> How do i close windows like "alt+F4" in win32 ?
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> boabsta: google for a few minutes, depending on your google-fu, you might get lucky.
[07:04] <_bt> Pelo, whoami
[07:04] <Plugh> Pelo: who am i
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> diablo``: alt+f4
[07:04] <hoy> how do you edit username's "name"?
[07:04] <diablo``> fyrestrtr: not working..
[07:05] <Pelo> diablo``  shft-ctrl -Q
[07:05] <boabsta> fyrestrtr: been there.....
[07:05] <Pelo> well I am me so that's taht at least
[07:05] <boabsta> hoy: use "usermod -l new_name" i think
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> hoy: system > administration > users and groups
[07:06] <Pelo> well thanks for the moral support guys, gottago
[07:07] <Jerr|sd> I have ubuntu x64 running on live cd (6.06 LTS) and it won't recognize my screen as 1440x900 and my other screen is scrambled
[07:07] <Jerr|sd> if I install will I not see that?
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> Jerr|sd: it probably doesn't have the accelerated drivers for your video card installed.
[07:08] <Jerr|sd> yeah, I figured
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> Jerr|sd: what video device do you have?
[07:08] <Jerr|sd> nvidia
[07:08] <Jerr|sd> it has nv drivers probably
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> oh lucky -- those are well supported. You shouldn't have any problems.
[07:08] <Icon41> Hello
[07:09] <fmarostica> where i found w32codecs ?
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats
[07:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:09] <fmarostica> i using dapper draker
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> fmarostica: ^ there
[07:10] <Jerr|sd> dapper is the codename for 6.06 LTS?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> yes
[07:10] <hoy> how do you edit username's "name"?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> hoy: I just told you, system > administration > users and groups
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> hoy: click on the username, click on properties.
[07:10] <hoy> oh thanks
[07:10] <Jerr|sd> I hate that, I get confused all the time. "Breezy Badger" "Drapper Draker"
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> Jerr|sd: its Dapper Drake :)
[07:11] <Icon41> What is the equivilant to MS Paint?
[07:11] <[NP] Tangent> does xchat have an amsg command? [amsg] 
[07:11] <Jerr|sd> I dunno, but gimp is like photoshop
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> !info gpaint
[07:11] <ubotu> gpaint: GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2.4+0.3.0pre5-2build1 (dapper), package size 105 kB, installed size 632 kB
[07:11] <fowlduck> is there a way to reconfigure your system, like it does when you install?
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> Icon41: ^^^^^ that
[07:12] <Icon41> thanks
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> fowlduck: which part of it?
[07:12] <fowlduck> fyrestrtr: all of it
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> all of it?
[07:12] <regeya> omg rofflecopters gnu paint!!!!
[07:12] <Jerr|sd> uh, after installing nvidia-glx with livecd, can I do ctrl-alt-backspace and it'll be using nvidia drivers or is there something else I need to do?
[07:13] <fowlduck> fyrestrtr: well, really it's a moved VM and we need it to recognize the 3945
[07:13] <fowlduck> fyrestrtr: the new laptop uses it and we're providing direct access to the card
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> Jerr|sd: edit the xorg.conf file, change nv to nvidia
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> then ctrl+alt+backspace -- login, and type glxinfo
[07:13] <wheels3572> Anyone in here use gproftpd?
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> check the provider string.
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> fowlduck: what tha bingles is a 3945?
[07:14] <billy> fmarostica---http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  follow the instructions for new apt-sources and then run easy ubuntu and automatix...these will install all the codecs, etc
[07:14] <fowlduck> fyrestrtr: intel wireless card, the next generation after ipw2200
[07:14] <fowlduck> fyrestrtr: this is the ipw3945
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> ooh
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> You could just configure that module.
[07:15] <kira1> !info mldonkey-server
[07:15] <ubotu> mldonkey-server: Door to the 'donkey' network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.7.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2900 kB, installed size 7960 kB
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> (assuming its available) -- or manually compile the module in the kernel if its not.
[07:15] <fmarostica> billy, thanks
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> anyway, brb
[07:16] <Jerr|sd> ok
[07:16] <billy> it is the simplest way to install everything including opera, nvidia and ati drivers, codecs, etc
[07:16] <Jerr|sd> I screwed up x
[07:16] <Icon41> Is there a Macromedia Flash 8 equivilant for Ubuntu?
[07:16] <J_P> hey all, I install jre 1.5 via automatix, but I have this in prompt: jp@neo:~$ java -version
[07:16] <J_P> bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory
[07:17] <Jerr|sd> isn't there an x configurator?
[07:17] <Jerr|sd> I remember using one
[07:17] <billy> i like opera..because it is the same in windows and in linux..and i can import my bookmarks from windows
[07:17] <Jerr|sd> !tell me about x
[07:18] <Jerr|sd> same with firefox
[07:18] <B3njo> I tried to complie XMMS but i get this error-messages in the end when i have 'make'.. http://pastebin.ca/108721 Any one knows the problem=
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the name of a program that can turn my ogg's into mp3...  Please dont flame me I have a special reason for needing thse mp3's
[07:18] <Yakubovich> hey guys, what's the fastest way to transfer many little files from Linux to Windows?
[07:19] <lukaswayne9> Jack_Sparrow: soundconverter
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Is it in the repos?
[07:19] <lukaswayne9> yes
[07:19] <MarcN> Yakubovich: depends.  What is the setup? same system? networked?
[07:19] <cpk2> i'm using a wireless card with ndiswrapper but it always seems to break itself after a couple hours, ifdown/up seems to work (i get an ip) but i cant communicate with the router =\
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Thank you so much..  Is it gui or term progam
[07:19] <chipp> im about to go crazy, i just cant configure my system to work with ati graphics card. (ati radeon mobile) im on a fujitsu seimens amilo notebook.
[07:19] <Yakubovich> MarcN: a wired network
[07:20] <lukaswayne9> Jack_Sparrow: gui
[07:20] <catskul_> is there an smb configuration utility available in Dapper ?
[07:20] <catskul_> chipp, I gave up and bought an Nvidia
[07:20] <richiefrich> ajay ji
[07:20] <richiefrich> ajay hi
[07:20] <chipp> catskul_ well.. not a option since im on a notebook
[07:20] <lukaswayne9> catskul_: vi /etc/samba/smb.conf :)
[07:20] <catskul_> lukaswayne9, lol... thats what I thought
[07:21] <Jerr|sd> now I need to remember how to restart x
[07:21] <npster> How do I make a ADSL connection in xubuntu?
[07:21] <lukaswayne9> catskul_: But graphical? You can do some samba management through GNOME
[07:21] <billy> chipp does easy ubuntu work?
[07:21] <cpk2> catskul_: samba gui is called swat
[07:21] <Jerr|sd> ah nvm ubotu got that
[07:21] <billy> it has ati drivers as one of its selections
[07:21] <catskul_> Jerr|sd, ctrl+shift+backspace
[07:21] <[b] urk> lukaswayne9, hows the gui for fceu going?
[07:21] <MarcN> Yakubovich: setup samba and have the windows grab it (System->Administration->Shared Folders).  I like to have cygwin installed on windows systems (including sshd) so I can then just scp to/from a windows box.
[07:21] <cpk2> catskul_: smb.conf is pretty simple though
[07:21] <lukaswayne9> [b] urk: pretty well, it's going to be in the next upstream fceu release :)
[07:22] <catskul_> im not trying to share... just to reach other shares....
[07:22] <[b] urk> nice
[07:22] <catskul_> not sure with the issue is...
[07:22] <hal9000> could someone tell me what ubuntu alternate is
[07:22] <default> Hi, with which command can I use mplayer or gmplayer to play a dvd-structure, that is on my local hard drive? e.g. /home/default/dvd/VIDEO_TS ?
[07:22] <lukaswayne9> [b] urk: there's a lot more activity upstream now, but the code right now is really buggy
[07:22] <cpk2> catskul_: if its on another linux box just ssh?
[07:22] <catskul_> cpk2, thats the prob
[07:22] <catskul_> its a windows box
[07:22] <npster> hal9000: ubuntu alternate is a OS system
[07:22] <gatekeeper_> Yakubovich, konqueror can see what is inside a windows share without installing samba
[07:22] <npster> for installin ubuntu
[07:23] <hal9000> npster: yeah .. i mean the difference between desktop and alternate
[07:23] <Jerr|sd> no, I have x that I broke the confiug
[07:23] <npster> oh i don't know
[07:23] <Yakubovich> hal9000: a non-graphical installation
[07:23] <cpk2> catskul_: i can access my windows shared folder, you sure you have samba set up right?
[07:23] <Jerr|sd> I ran dpkg-reconfigure whatever and it did, and I did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and it failed
[07:23] <hal9000> Yakubovich: do you know if it is possible to use kde repos and server repos for ubuntu
[07:24] <rednaxel> Is there a problem with the "network profiles" under Ubuntu 6.06? I tried to set up 2 profiles for my notebook, but in the end I always need to change the settings manually
[07:24] <facugaich> Jerr|sd
[07:24] <catskul_> cpk2, no : )
[07:24] <npster> how do i make a adsl connection in xubuntu ?
[07:24] <hal9000> Yakubovich: with that i mean kubuntu repos and ubuntu-server
[07:24] <catskul_> cpk2, I didnt do any setting up except installing it
[07:24] <Yakubovich> hal9000: it's the same repos
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lukaswayne9:  THe option to make mp3's is greyed out... but it can make wav's..  I think I can play mp3's so is there something else I need to install..?
[07:24] <cpk2> catskul_: hehe
[07:24] <facugaich> Jerr|sd : Before overwriting the xorg.conf file dpkg makes a backup in /etc/X11, named xorg.conf.<date>
[07:25] <catskul_> the share on the other end can be accessed by windows clients... so it must be on this end
[07:25] <cpk2> catskul_: i would imagine you probably just need to change the workgroup name in smb.conf
[07:25] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: Are you using grip
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> No, he said to use soundconverter
[07:25] <catskul_> ah... thats probably it
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> will grip do it as well
[07:25] <catskul_> easy enough
[07:25] <djancak> Snape kills Jack Sparrow
[07:26] <cpk2> catskul_: keep in mind if you want to share stuff on your linux box you will need to make a unix account or use a current one that the windows box can use to access the shares
[07:26] <cowmilk> so the xubuntu iso is 674 mb. and the CD-RW discs that i have are 650 MB. Do isos somehow shrink when put on a disc?
[07:26] <catskul_> Im not too worried about that.... Ill let others just use ssh
[07:26] <lukaswayne9> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps installing lame?
[07:26] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: I use grip to rip music cd's to mp3, but that requires lame to be installed. It's possible that you need to install lame to be able to do what you're doing.
[07:26] <ardchoille> !lame
[07:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about lame - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:26] <npster> cowmilk: NO
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[07:26] <ardchoille> !lame
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> going to try grip as well
[07:27] <cowmilk> npster: so do CDs come in bigger sizes?
[07:27] <ardchoille> !info lame
[07:27] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[07:27] <Jerr|sd> facugaich: so what am I supposed to do with that?
[07:27] <default> Is there a way to play a local dvd folder with mplayer?
[07:27] <default> or totem?
[07:27] <Jerr|sd> eh, I think I should just restart the livecd
[07:27] <bXi> default: maybe you should try xine
[07:27] <ajay> richiefrich: yo
[07:28] <facugaich> Jerr|sd : Assuming your last config worked fine, you rename that backup back to "xorg.conf"
[07:28] <richiefrich> whats up
[07:28] <ajay> richiefrich: everyone at #worlddominattion
[07:28] <default> bxi: I am trying to avoid installing xine
[07:28] <bXi> i have no clue tho but i read in some mythtv howto that xine is used to play dvd's
[07:28] <bXi> i havent found the need to play dvd's yet
[07:29] <default> oh, ok
[07:29] <richiefrich> no ones there ajay
[07:29] <catskul_> cpk2, I think my nmb resolution is failing...
[07:29] <boabsta> hey fyrestrtr i sussed it if you (or anyone else) is interested: stick these lines into a section for your USB disk in /etc/ivman/IvmConfigActions
[07:29] <boabsta> <ivm:Option name="exec" value="PASSW=`kdialog --password Password`; truecrypt -u /media/usbdisk/encfile /home/boabsta/encrypted_dir/ -p $PASSW &gt; /tmp/usbtest" />
[07:29] <boabsta> <ivm:Option name="execun" value="truecrypt -d /media/usbdisk/encfile" />
[07:29] <boabsta> woohoo :)
[07:30] <cpk2> catskul_: if you want you can pastebin you smb.conf
[07:30] <boabsta> going to go and play with myself now ;)
[07:30] <catskul_> alright... just a sec
[07:31] <mwe> what's a typical price for a broadband connection in the US?
[07:31] <Spec> 45$/month
[07:31] <cpk2> mwe: depends on where you are too
[07:31] <Spec> some less, some more
[07:31] <catskul_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19317
[07:31] <mwe> cpk2: yeah
[07:31] <cpk2> i would say 40
[07:31] <mirak> ls
[07:31] <mirak> hi
[07:31] <mirak> I got a huge problem
[07:31] <htv8> it works now ! :D :D :D
[07:31] <mwe> what speed would that be?
[07:31] <htv8> I like LINUX more than microsoft now :P
[07:32] <mirak> for whatever reason my user have no rights
[07:32] <mirak> I can't even do ls
[07:32] <mirak> it says permission denied
[07:32] <cpk2> catskul_: the windows is under the workgroup workgroup?
[07:32] <Spec> mwe: up:12kb/sec down:80-250kb/sec (kilobytes/sec)
[07:32] <cpk2> also to use wins linux needs a static ip and you need to configure wins in windows as well
[07:32] <mwe> ok. thanks
[07:32] <Spec> mirak: where are you sitting? (pwd)
[07:32] <Spec> mwe: dslreports.com might have more information
[07:32] <boabsta> mirak: can you do ls -l / ?
[07:32] <catskul_> yep supposedly    nmblookup -A <hostname> reports my target machine being in the WORKGROUP workgroup
[07:33] <mirak> boabsta: /home/karim/Prog/src/pam_mount-0.16/config
[07:33] <cpk2> mwe: i have basic cable and my down is 600kB and up about 45kB
[07:33] <mirak> boabsta: in fact I canceled a checkinstall, and everything went bad after that
[07:33] <catskul_> er
[07:33] <evil_cow> is it stil inposible to write dvd cd with more than x1 speed
[07:33] <evil_cow> pls
[07:33] <Spec> evil_cow: depends on your burner probably
[07:33] <catskul_> er smbclient
[07:33] <Spec> evil_cow: and your media
[07:33] <evil_cow> it is a big problem for me
[07:33] <mirak> boabsta: permission denied. hopefull I add a root shell
[07:33] <Spec> evil_cow: what are you using to burn?
[07:33] <mwe> cpk2: for $40/month ?
[07:34] <mirak> Spec: any idea ?
[07:34] <boabsta> mirak: gah you've compiled your own PAM and partially installed it?
[07:34] <mirak> boabsta: yes ...
[07:34] <mirak> boabsta: well, only pam-mount
[07:34] <htv8> do I have to install all 130 updates?
[07:34] <evil_cow> Spec, laptop gigabyte
[07:34] <Spec> mwe: I get 600kb/sec up and 1.5megs/sec down for like 45/50 a month, (Verizon FiOS)
[07:34] <Spec> evil_cow: i meant what program
[07:35] <mirak> boabsta: I probably need to reinstall pam ?
[07:35] <evil_cow> Spec, k3b
[07:35] <Spec> evil_cow: hmm, if your hardware supports it, k3b should do it
[07:35] <boabsta> mirak: probably a good start unless you have a backup of PAM config files from /etc ?
[07:35] <Jeruvy> spec: 5MB down 1MB up $34.00 :)
[07:35] <cpk2> mwe: like i said depends where you are, in san diego it is pretty easy to get broadband
[07:35] <Spec> mirak: you can't "ls -al /" ?
[07:35] <Evil_Ed`> hello
[07:35] <Spec> Jeruvy: what service?
[07:36] <Evil_Ed`> tell me
[07:36] <Jeruvy> spec: bus. cable
[07:36] <minerale> What does it mean when they say "Ubuntu will be supported for three years"
[07:36] <cpk2> catskul_: you will want to turn wins off or set it up correctly in windows as well, its pretty simple to set up in windows, provided your linux box has a static ip on the network
[07:36] <evil_cow> Spec, it wont
[07:36] <minerale> ie, security patches ?
[07:36] <Pecisk_> htv8: it would be vice
[07:36] <Spec> *innocent*
[07:36] <htv8> do I have to install all 130 updates? :)
[07:36] <evil_cow> in windows i write on 8x speed
[07:36] <Spec> minerale: yes
[07:36] <fryfrog> zomg
[07:36] <evil_cow> Spec,
[07:36] <Spec> evil_cow: oh,
[07:36] <boabsta> mirak: or *maybe* re-add your user (if you can...)
[07:36] <mwe> Spec: that sounds like a good deal. prices are generally higher in Europe or the connections are slower
[07:36] <fryfrog> every project is on freenode :)
[07:36] <Spec> evil_cow: i don't know then, perhaps look for a different burning program
[07:36] <Pecisk_> htv8: because they are all stable updates for security and serious bugs
[07:36] <Spec> hehe
[07:36] <mirak> boabsta: I tried to add another user it failed
[07:36] <fryfrog> is there an #ubutuntu-server chan?
[07:37] <Yakubovich> minerale: means the current version will get security updates and tech support for 3 years, then you'll have to upgrade
[07:37] <Spec> fryfrog: no
[07:37] <mwe> cpk2: yeah. I guess it would be hard in the desert or something ;)
[07:37] <evil_cow> Spec, there are a lot of post in ubuntuforums but there are no solution
[07:37] <fryfrog> Spec: actually, there appears to be
[07:37] <Spec> evil_cow: perhaps check k3b forums?
[07:37] <mirak> Spec: I can't
[07:37] <mirak> boabsta: I don't have that backup
[07:37] <boabsta> mirak: what happens when you type passwd and change your password?
[07:38] <mirak> boabsta: why would this files would be changed ?
[07:38] <catskul_> cpk2, solved it with libgnomevfs2-extra
[07:38] <htv8> thank you :)
[07:38] <htv8> i'll try now
[07:38] <htv8> bye
[07:38] <evil_cow> hmm
[07:38] <cpk2> catskul_: interesting...
[07:38] <boabsta> mirak: when you rolled your own pam-mount and installed it probably overwrote a bunch of files you need
[07:38] <cpk2> guess it isnt using the samba client
[07:38] <catskul_> can I teach that to the channel bot ?
[07:38] <catskul_> (...no sure how )
[07:39] <minerale> I recently read that Mark Shuttleworth was given a lot of hardship when coming to the US - I think for what he's done that's unfair, is there a petition of some kind being prepared / being sent on behalf of him ?
[07:39] <mirak> help me
[07:39] <boabsta> mirak: what happens if you type passwd?
[07:39] <mirak> boabsta: ah
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a printer queue manager (web based) which would show pages and document title, workstation source? Cups interface doesn't do pages or IP/hostname source - patrons at the library are printing huge documents multiple times :(
[07:40] <mirak> boabsta: command not found
[07:40] <mirak> boabsta: but root can do it
[07:40] <catskul_> minerale, no Idea
[07:41] <boabsta> mirak: try as root typing "passwd you_username"
[07:41] <catskul_> but if you find one ... say so
[07:41] <bangalore_guy> i am in need of help. I am unable to configure my internet connection in Ubuntu. Please Help!
[07:41] <boabsta> mirak: like  "passwd mirak"
[07:41] <mirak> boabsta: how could I reinstall pam if I want to ?
[07:41] <boabsta> mirak: not sure with ubuntu
[07:41] <Icon41> Can someone help me get my wireless internet on Ubuntu?
[07:41] <mirak> boabsta: it says unknow user
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> LeeJunFan: if the printer is networked, it may provide this already (most have a web interface). Have you checked that this is not available? Also, if all the printers are HP, then HP provides free software that works on its and also some other brand printers and allows this kind of web management.
[07:41] <thundr> minerale, search for shuttleworth petition on your favorite search engine
[07:42] <Spitty> hey everyone
[07:42] <thundr> !hi
[07:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:42] <mirak> boabsta: ah ok lol that's not my user
[07:42] <boabsta> mirak: try as root typing "cat /etc/passwd" - is there anything in that file?
[07:42] <mirak> boabsta: my user is karim
[07:42] <boabsta> mirak: lol
[07:42] <mirak> ll
[07:42] <mirak> ls
[07:42] <mirak> sorry
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> fyrestrtr: no, I haven't thanks. They may have just that.
[07:42] <Spitty> could someone tell me how to manually schedule a fsck during the next boot?
[07:43] <Icon41> Spitty are you associated with the LL ?
[07:43] <mirak> boabsta: it fails to cd to my hom
[07:43] <mirak> e
[07:43] <Spitty> err, LL?
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> Spitty: man tune2fs
[07:43] <Icon41> nevermind then
[07:43] <mirak> boabsta: man , I did something a new bie would do with windows
[07:43] <boabsta> mirak: sorry i really need to go and eat/sleep, kind of out of ideas anyway :(
[07:43] <Spitty> thanks fyrestrtr
[07:44] <bangalore_guy> can someone help me? for the past few days i have been trying to configure my internet connection with Ubuntu. Its not happening at all.
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: how do you connect? wired or wireless?
[07:44] <boabsta> mirak: if you're going to build system apps its probably better to get a seperate box to test them out on ;)
[07:44] <minerale> thundr: ugh, yeah, nothing there
[07:44] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: wired
[07:44] <nikin> anyone can help me with Genius Wizardpen?
[07:44] <boabsta> mirak: like one you dont mind hosing :)
[07:45] <boabsta> gtg
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: how do you connect? Dialup, Ethernet, DSL?
[07:45] <bangalore_guy> I have a static internet connection, i just need to configure the network settings
[07:45] <bangalore_guy> its ethernet
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: first thing, is your network card detected?
[07:45] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: yes it is detected
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: does it show up in system > administration > networking ?
[07:45] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: yes
[07:46] <pihl> how do you boot ubuntu with the grub console? I "sort of" commented out every ubuntu startup-lines from menu.lst in the good hope of that it would boot windows instead. It failed and now I can only access ubuntu with the live cd. Help needed in short :P
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: why can't you configure it from there?
[07:46] <wheels3572> Anyone in here use Gproftpd
[07:46] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: i did all the config settings
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> pihl: from the livecd, open up a terminal, type cd /boot/grub/ then open up menu.lst and undo what you did :)
[07:47] <bangalore_guy> but when i ping any address, it says network is unreachable
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: then what's the issue?
[07:47] <bagwill_> when i connect to lifehack.org, firefox crashes, can anyone confirm?  thx
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: are you giving it the right settings?
[07:47] <minerale> thundr: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/43
[07:47] <pihl> thanks, I'll try that :)
[07:47] <guy22> anyone know if there is an SD card reader driver for linux?
[07:47] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: Yes, I am using the same settings in windows
[07:47] <cpk2> bangalore_guy: are you connecting through a router?
[07:47] <k31th> yo guys wat do you use for UPS software?
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: how is your ip address assigned?
[07:47] <djancak> bagwill_, works for me
[07:48] <bangalore_guy> its static. i have been given static settings and a static IP address
[07:48] <bagwill_> maybe it's my flashblock extensions
[07:48] <fmarostica> Someone is using compiz + Xgl?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> fmarostica: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:48] <bangalore_guy> cpk2: Well, its just the network settings i need to configure, there are no drivers etc in windows.
[07:48] <wheels3572> Also can anyone help me sort out setting up a STatic IP in Ubuntu please?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: okay, what are the settings?
[07:49] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr, is it okay if I pm you?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> sure
[07:49] <Pecisk_> wheels: System => Administration => Networking
[07:49] <bangalore_guy> thanks
[07:49] <cpk2> bangalore_guy: if are connecting to a router you could try pinging the router first
[07:49] <bangalore_guy> cpk2: I am able to ping nothing
[07:49] <bangalore_guy> it doesnt even appear to do a lookup and says network is unreachable
[07:49] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, I was given instructions by my Router provider that was given for Windows can you possibly help me sort this out a bit please?
[07:50] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: then choose interface you would like to configure, "Edit" it and provide with static IP, subnet and getaway addresses
[07:50] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: while I am here, sure
[07:50] <cpk2> bangalore_guy: does cat /etc/resolv.conf show the right dns?
[07:50] <wheels3572> Can I PM you Pecisk_  please?
[07:50] <nikin> hmm why does Ubuntu not see my USB input device....
[07:50] <nikin> ?
[07:50] <paul__> Does anyone know about getting ms game console controllers working on ubuntu?
[07:50] <nikin> isnt automatic?
[07:50] <cpk2> nikin: it should be =P
[07:51] <nikin> it works
[07:51] <nikin> moreto less
[07:51] <bangalore_guy> cpk2: yes. i have checked that file too
[07:51] <nikin> :D
[07:51] <nikin> can be that using two usb mice together can be a problem?
[07:51] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: I already do :)
[07:51] <Linkiboy> I just cae back from trying to install ubuntu... and it caused me to raise a feweyebrows
[07:51] <pihl> fyrestrtr, /boot/grub doesn't exist.. d'oh.
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> pihl: make sure you disk is mounted first.
[07:51] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, you already do what lol
[07:51] <ajay> richiefrich: not coming?
[07:51] <pihl> how do I do that then? ;)
[07:52] <ajay> bangalore_guy: hi!
[07:52] <bangalore_guy> ajay: hello
[07:52] <Linkiboy> why does it say my entire disk will be wiped when i specificaly chose only my ext3 partitions?
[07:52] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: I already talking with you in private
[07:52] <eigenlambda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs includes a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpingWithBugs, which doesn't exist
[07:52] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: if you see that, of course
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> pihl: system > administration > disks
[07:52] <richiefrich> ajay theres  no one there
[07:53] <ardchoille> Pecisk_: You aren't identified to ncikserv, so he can't see your pm posts
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> eigenlambda: edit it, that's the point of a wiki.
[07:53] <pihl> okey
[07:53] <ajay> richiefrich: just check once now ;)
[07:53] <wftl> Hello all. Can't find the automake package for Ubuntu. Is it part of something else (apt-cache search automake doesn't turn up anything useful).
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> wftl: try build-essential
[07:53] <richiefrich> ajay what is it again
[07:53] <wftl> fyrestrtr: build-essential is installed.
[07:53] <ajay> richiefrich: just come there
[07:53] <paul__> Does anyone know about getting ms game console controllers (usb hacked) working on ubuntu?
[07:53] <richiefrich> ajay what is it again
[07:54] <richiefrich> the channel
[07:54] <bangalore_guy> hi fyrestrtr, are you around
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> sure
[07:54] <pihl> every partition except partition 1 (where I keep my ugly win2k installation on) is inaccessible, when I try enabling them nothing happens.
[07:54] <ajay> richiefrich: lol #worlddomination
[07:54] <Miek> wftl: what about just "make"?
[07:54] <wftl> Miek: make is installed, too.
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: you need to be identified to send private messages.
[07:54] <mwe> what's the deal with with the mysql-ndb and mysql-ndb-mgm init scripts that mysql-server installs? and which one are you supposed to use?
[07:55] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: uh oh. how do i do that
[07:55] <wftl> Just can't seem to find autoconf, or automake, for Dapper.
[07:55] <paul__> The reason I want this is analog buttons, unless anyone has a better idea.
[07:55] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, did you see my last question about if Ubuntu has a firewall
[07:55] <ardchoille> bangalore_guy: /msg nickserv help register
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> mwe: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> !firewall > wheels3572
[07:55] <bangalore_guy> okay thanks ardchoille
[07:56] <mwe> fyrestrtr: so what are the others and why is mysql-ndb configured to start at boot by default?
[07:56] <wthww> ha snayone tried SHeepShaver with ubuntu?
[07:56] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[07:56] <mwe> fyrestrtr: it comes with 3 init scripts
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> mwe: the other two are cluster scripts.
[07:56] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: yes, and I answered that already
[07:57] <mwe> fyrestrtr: mysql-ndb says something about clusers. I'm not using a cluster I wonder why it would enable that by default
[07:57] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: Ubuntu doesn't have firewall turned on by default
[07:57] <pihl> fyrestrtr: everything seems to be quite screwed up... Every partition except partition 1 (where I keep my ugly win2k installation on) is inaccessible, when I try enabling them nothing happens.
[07:57] <mwe> fyrestrtr: I'll change that I guess
[07:57] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: just keep conversation here to avoid that freenode nick reg. crap
[07:57] <bangalore_guy> ardchoille: this could be a silly think to ask, but do i do that /msg thing in this window?
[07:57] <Pecisk_> :)
[07:57] <bangalore_guy> *thing
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> mwe: I strongly advise you not to touch those, unless you know exactly what you are doing.
[07:57] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: you are logged in your desktop?
[07:57] <paul__> Good game controller to use with Ubuntu??? Anyone???
[07:58] <mwe> fyrestrtr: not disable mysql-ndb ?
[07:58] <ardchoille> bangalore_guy: doesn't matter which window, but the output may be directed to a diff window
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: /j #fyre-helps
[07:58] <bangalore_guy> thanks again!
[07:58] <mwe> fyrestrtr: I'm confused now. should I disable mysql-ndb and use plain mysql instead or not?
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> mwe: just use the mysql start script
[07:59] <bagwill_> adios ciao ate logo de wa matta shalom salaam aloha
[07:59] <mwe> fyrestrtr: don't you think it's odd it configured the mysql-ndb to start at boot though?
[07:59] <nikin> is a command like "sudo bash" evil?
[07:59] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, I believe so yes lol not sure really I am a newbie lol would the desktop be the windows manager that has Applications Places and System on it?
[07:59] <mwe> nikin: just use sudo -i instead
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> mwe: no, not really.
[08:00] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, Ok I will keep it here :)
[08:00] <minerale> Hi, how would I got about diagnosing a "youtube flash videos do not play sound but everything else does" problem ?
[08:00] <mwe> fyrestrtr: why would it asume I'm running a cluster server? I guess there is some good reason for that?
[08:00] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: desktop is that place where is Appliactions, Places and System at the top of screen, yes
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> no, depending on your mysql configuration (which tells it if you are running a cluster or not) it will take care of it.
[08:00] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: click on System, then choose Administration, then choose Networking
[08:01] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, Sorry I missed where you had answered that I know fyrestrtr gave me the bot answer which btw ty fyrestrtr
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> np
[08:01] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[08:01] <soundray> minerale: if you're lucky, turning off ESD and restarting firefox is sufficient. System-Prefs-Sound and uncheck Sound server startup
[08:01] <wubrgamer> i was wondering if someone could guide me to using ssh on my home pc
[08:01] <soundray> How can I find out info about a blank CD I inserted?
[08:01] <wubrgamer> try mounting it
[08:02] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, then do I go and change DHCP to Static IP Address?
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> minerale: your sound card may not support multiple streams. There is also a wiki entry for specific problems with sound and flash, might want to check that out.
[08:02] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: exactly
[08:02] <nikin> is it normal that an usb device is called serio?
[08:02] <mwe> fyrestrtr: oh but then I shouldn't need to change it to start mysql instead, since it should be clever enough to figure out my setup?
[08:02] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: then provide IP address, subnet address and getaway which is given by your internet/router provider
[08:02] <paul__> minerale  I had that prob, can't rember the whole thing but it involved changeing the firefox.rc file
[08:03] <soundray> wubrgamer: I just get msgs such as "This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"
[08:03] <wheels3572> which they told me (Linksys that is that my gateway is 192.168.1.1
[08:03] <soundray> wubrgamer: I need to know whether it's a 650 or 700MB blank.
[08:03] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: yep, all you need is internal address for computer and subnet.
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> mwe: by default, it doesn't do clustering. Its not going to guess your setup, because it assumes if you know enough of mysql to know about clustering, you would know that you need to edit the default settings to enable it :)
[08:03] <paul__> minerale  switching the sound to oss in it
[08:03] <wubrgamer> oh
[08:04] <wubrgamer> i really don't know
[08:04] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, actually my IP Address My gateway address AND my DNS are all 192.168.1.1 according to Linksys does that sound right for the DNS?
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> wheels3572: yes, that is the default with linksys routers.
[08:04] <mwe> fyrestrtr: yeah. so leaving the boot process as is should be safe for now?
[08:04] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: could be, router can do simple DNS caching and that stuff
[08:04] <wheels3572> but do they watn the internal ip address of my computer or the router itself because the Routher is 192.168.1.100 the router is .1
[08:05] <minerale> soundray: that did not work
[08:05] <minerale> fyrestrtr: I only have firefox playing audio
[08:05] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: router definetly is 192.168.1.1
[08:05] <wheels3572> Yes
[08:05] <minerale> paul__: changing the firefox.rc file from ESD to OSS ?
[08:05] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: 192.168.1.100 feels more like your computer address
[08:05] <wubrgamer> how do i ssh into a machine ?
[08:05] <wheels3572> It is my computer address so that is different then the IP Address?
[08:05] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: so provide it, hit everywhere ok and see what's happening
[08:05] <soundray> wubrgamer: 'ssh username@hostname'
[08:05] <mwe> wubrgamer: ssh uset@host
[08:06] <mwe> wubrgamer: user@host *
[08:06] <wubrgamer> what if it's not on my local network ?
[08:06] <mwe> wubrgamer: same thing
[08:06] <paul__> minerale  try this   http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[08:06] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: your computer IP address is 192.168.1.100, write it in first field, then 255.255.255.0 in second, then 192.168.1.1 in third
[08:06] <wheels3572> Ok thats' what I thought
[08:06] <wheels3572> THEY screwed up lol
[08:06] <mwe> wubrgamer: ssh foobar@server.com or use and ip
[08:06] <wheels3572> thats why I wasn't working right lol
[08:07] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: hit OK and you have done with it, then choose DNS part of window, and provide 192.168.1.1 as one DNS server
[08:07] <wubrgamer> my computer is refusing port 22
[08:07] <frosty_badfish> i've plugged in a ntfs disk on hdc, the disk is mount under /tmp/, I'm trying to umount (willing to get another mount point) but he says that the drive is busy
[08:07] <sethk> wubrgamer, install openssl-server
[08:07] <mwe> wubrgamer: probably a firewall issue or your ISP is blocking it
[08:07] <Pecisk_> wubrgamer: by default, ubuntu doesn't have SSH daemon installed, so it could be normal
[08:08] <wubrgamer> oh
[08:08] <Pecisk_> wubrgamer: do sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:08] <mwe> wubrgamer: oh yes the server should be running of course
[08:08] <soundray> Pecisk_: that's not correct
[08:08] <wubrgamer> aah
[08:08] <wubrgamer> i thought i was installed
[08:08] <sethk> soundray, yes, it is
[08:08] <wubrgamer> then what is ssh-agent ?
[08:08] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: success?
[08:08] <sethk> soundray, the default install does not install the server
[08:08] <XVampireX> Hi, what's the apache php module package?
[08:08] <sethk> wubrgamer, the agent is related to the X server, and a totally different thing
[08:08] <Pecisk_> wubrgamer: it is agent who keeps account of all ssh keys for servers you have connected to
[08:08] <wubrgamer> oh
[08:08] <soundray> sethk: when did that change?
[08:08] <wubrgamer> alrigh
[08:09] <sethk> soundray, I don't know, but I built three boxes in the last two months, so at least that long ago.
[08:09] <Zyfo> Main contains a file system with errors, check forced. <- I get that when I try to start Ubuntu. It worked fine before, I tried reinstalling ubuntu with what success. What can I do/what can be wrong?
[08:09] <Pecisk_> XVampireX: install php4 or php5 and module installs themselfes - if apache is installed
[08:09] <wheels3572> Yes success :)
[08:09] <XVampireX> Ah, okey, thanks
[08:09] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: great, it was nice to help you
[08:09] <Pecisk_> good luck
[08:09] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, ty ty :) Think I am running on static now :)
[08:10] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, Also do you know anything about Gproftpd?
[08:10] <paul__> minerale  And if that don't work try this   http://thomer.com/howtos/sound_in_firefox.html
[08:10] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: heard about it, never tried, I'm console guy if we are talking about daemons
[08:10] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, Yeah so do you use straight proftpd?
[08:11] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: mostly, when I need one
[08:11] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: of course, for my own transfers I stick with ssh
[08:11] <Pecisk_> and scp
[08:11] <richiefrich> Zyfo so what did you decide on
[08:11] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, I need to transfer files between laptop and Desktop what would be good for a newbie that they could understand in Linux?
[08:11] <richiefrich> Zyfo  for your install.. like partitions
[08:11] <wheels3572> Using the Ubuntu distro
[08:12] <frosty_badfish> ! ntfs > frosty_badfish
[08:12] <frosty_badfish> !ntfs > frosty_badfish
[08:12] <frosty_badfish> !ntfs
[08:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:12] <sethk> wheels3572, I install cygwin on the windows side, which lets me transfer from windows to ubuntu exactly as I transfer from ubuntu to ubuntu
[08:12] <sethk> wheels3572, assuming you mean transfer over a network
[08:12] <Zyfo> richiefrich, just 1 for root and 1 for home, then other drive as /mnt/main
[08:12] <thundr> Is there a defrag command for linux?
[08:12] <Zyfo> Main contains a file system with errors, check forced. <- I get that when I try to start Ubuntu. It worked fine before, I tried reinstalling ubuntu with what success. What can I do/what can be wrong?
[08:12] <richiefrich> Zyfo ok.. kowl
[08:13] <sethk> thundr, no need to defrag
[08:13] <thundr> sethk, good!
[08:13] <wheels3572> sethk, Yeah I do mean that but then again I cant get my laptop to work on the network yet due to my chipset GRRRRRRR
[08:13] <Zyfo> richiefrich too bad it's fucking up now :p it worked fine before
[08:13] <mwe> thundr: ext3 file systems don't suffer much from fragmentation
[08:13] <sethk> wheels3572, you can use a USB stick formatted as vfat
[08:13] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: what is problem with chipset
[08:13] <Zyfo> richiefrich just something now after I moved some fils to it from windows or smt :<
[08:13] <richiefrich> Zyfo what u do
[08:13] <thundr> mwe, what about reiser?
[08:13] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: wireless or wired?
[08:13] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: network I mean for laptop
[08:14] <mwe> thundr: reiserfs is dangerous but I don
[08:14] <sethk> thundr, reiser doesn't have fragmentation problems, usually, but is much less stable than ext3 and doesn't perform any better
[08:14] <Zyfo> richiefrich: nothing really, it was pretty empty and worked fine, then moved lots of shit from another drive to it (no system stuff) and now I got that when I tried to get into ubuntu
[08:14] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, My laptop works FINE on the wireless network if in Windows but soons I goto linux it dont work due to the bcm chipset
[08:14] <mwe> thundr: reiserfs is dangerous but I don't think it suffers much from fragmentation either
[08:14] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: can't use wired network?
[08:14] <sethk> wheels3572, then you can install cygwin, in windows, and transfer from windows to linux over the net, if that's something you need to do.
[08:15] <Pecisk_> wheels3572: do you need transfer information on regular basis or just once?
[08:15] <richiefrich> Zyfo wow man
[08:15] <thundr> sethk, mwe, dangerous? As in unstable?  So out of the filesystems ubuntu offers, ext3 is the best?  If so, is there a way to convert w/o losing data?
[08:16] <sethk> thundr, you have to back up the data, create the file system, and copy it back.  I don't know of a way to convert in place.
[08:16] <mwe> thundr: you can't convert safely but converfs will do it. it's by no means safe though
[08:16] <Zyfo> richiefrich wow what? any idea? :e
[08:16] <sethk> thundr, I would not convert without backup even if I thought there was a relatively safe way to do it.
[08:16] <soundray> thundr: what are you converting from?
[08:16] <mwe> sethk: convertfs. but it's unsafe
[08:16] <samalex> anyone know of a sensor or device that can transmit the temperature via rs-232 serial port?
[08:16] <sethk> mwe, forgot mwe.  but my point still stands, since you said unsafe:  back up first.  I think nobody will disagree about that.
[08:17] <richiefrich> Zyfo im not sure man..  Im not on ubuntu so I dont knoow what it's seeing
[08:17] <Zyfo> bbl, trying again
[08:17] <thundr> soundray, I think I'm suing reiser (I forgot the command to check - fdisk?)
[08:17] <sethk> mwe, forgot convertfs, I meant
[08:17] <Zyfo> richiefrich hum k
[08:17] <soundray> thundr: mount
[08:17] <mwe> sethk: and since you backup first the point of using convertfs is gone anyway
[08:17] <DanielS1> anyone knows how to configure a wireless adapter with WPA and no DHCP... The wireless adapter is associated with the AP but then it disconnects (I guess 'cause there's no DHCP server) I dont find where to configure the IP with network-manager-gnome
[08:17] <thundr> soundray, yes, reiser
[08:17] <sethk> mwe, might save time, theoretically
[08:17] <tuxvix> hello
[08:17] <wubrgamer> so guys, can anyone help me set up a tunnel so i can ssh into my machine from work ? i'm not very savvy with ssh, but i want to be able to ssh into my home pc and browse using my home's connection, not my works
[08:17] <sethk> mwe, but I agree, it is probably not sensible
[08:18] <Spec> wubrgamer: google for 'ssh tunnel'
[08:18] <tuxvix> does any one in here knows if EM64T version will work on Pentium D 940 ? 64-bit Dual Core?
[08:18] <soundray> thundr: stick with reiser if you haven't got any problems.
[08:18] <wubrgamer> ,,,'
[08:18] <wubrgamer> thankx !
[08:18] <sethk> wubrgamer, your home ISP may block incomming connections.
[08:18] <mcquaid> hello, i'm trying to get vnc going and i have the server running but when I connect with vncviewer i just get a grey screen
[08:18] <thundr> soundray, okay.
[08:18] <mwe> sethk: It hosed my file system recently and I didn't do enough backups because I asumed it would work. I saved the vital stuff though
[08:18] <tuxvix> cuz it says amd64
[08:18] <mcquaid> i created ~/.vnc/xstart and specified a wm in there
[08:19] <sethk> mwe, good to know.  To me, then, it isn't an option.
[08:19] <tuxvix> any one , please help.
[08:19] <Anon2675> does anyone know where i can find a repo with the latest azureus packages?
[08:19] <mcquaid> i've read that once you create a passwd xstart should be created but it wasn't there by default
[08:19] <operative> hey all I just installed ubuntu server, how come its not using /etc/shadow? and how do I make it use shadow?
[08:19] <thundr> mwe, sethk So the filesystem I should use for the next install is ext3?
[08:19] <mcquaid> is it expected to be somewhere else?
[08:19] <mwe> sethk: obviously I'm in that boat now as wel
[08:19] <tuxvix> Anon2675, http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[08:19] <sethk> thundr, I think it's the best option, yes.
[08:20] <DanielS1> wireless + WPA + no DHCP? does it works?
[08:20] <mwe> thundr: I'm using jfs. mostly just to be different but in theory it should be a little safer at the cost of a little speed
[08:20] <nikin> damn this wizardpen sux
[08:20] <soundray> wubrgamer, from your home machine, run "ssh -l remoteuser -R 2020:localhost:22 work.host.com". Then you should be able to connect to your home machine by running "ssh -p 2020 homeuser@localhost" on work.host.com (replace work.host.com with the real hostname).
[08:21] <wubrgamer> ?
[08:21] <sethk> thundr, as mwe said, jfs gives you a bit more security for the cost of a bit of performance.  The choice of a file system is always a tradeoff
[08:21] <eigenlambda> 'k, i just finished writing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpingWithBugs
[08:21] <soundray> wubrgamer: if it works, consider replacing ssh with autossh (which will reconnect automatically if the connection drops)
[08:21] <eigenlambda> somebody fact-check that?
[08:21] <thundr> mwe, that's mostly why I chose reiser - something different (but there weren't any explanations during the install)
[08:21] <wubrgamer> what is work.host.com ?
[08:21] <wubrgamer> like, i'm confused
[08:22] <wubrgamer> it's a windows pc
[08:22] <wubrgamer> my HOME is ubuntu
[08:22] <soundray> wubrgamer: the name of the machine you work on when you are at work
[08:22] <wubrgamer> what do you mean name ?
[08:22] <sethk> thundr, I don't like reiser because I've found it to be buggy, not because of it's claimed characteristics
[08:22] <wubrgamer> like it's ip address ?
[08:22] <mwe> thundr: many ex fans of reiserfs learned the hard way ;)
[08:22] <nikin> can i somhow track events in commandline?
[08:22] <soundray> wubrgamer: yeah.
[08:22] <DanielS1> :(
[08:22] <mwe> thundr: me included
[08:22] <wubrgamer> okay
[08:22] <sethk> wubrgamer, the ip address will work with that syntax
[08:22] <wubrgamer> thanx !
[08:22] <CarlFK> after I do: sudo apt-get install tftpd-hpa inetd
[08:22] <soundray> wubrgamer: if it's Windows, you will need to install Cygwin and run sshd on it.
[08:23] <wubrgamer> wait
[08:23] <wubrgamer> ?
[08:23] <CarlFK> how do I get the tftp server "on" ?>
[08:23] <wubrgamer> i can't install cygwin my my work pc
[08:23] <sethk> CarlFK, /etc/init.d/tftp-hpa start
[08:23] <CarlFK> and listing to the external IP
[08:23] <CarlFK> sethk: I did that
[08:23] <sethk> CarlFK, for the tftp-hpa package
[08:23] <sethk> CarlFK, that's all you should have to do.  the files you want to transfer go (by default) to /var/lib/tftpboot
[08:24] <sethk> CarlFK, you also have to modify /etc/default/tftp-hpa
[08:24] <sethk> CarlFK, to enable daemon mode
[08:24] <wubrgamer> ?
[08:24] <wubrgamer> AAH !
[08:24] <ramiroec> a dumb question : how i can find this phrase on google. : "b+N"  ? ...the result on google only show..the "bN", and not the "B+N"
[08:24] <mwe> nikin: well track how? ~/.bash_history shows the log of commands executed
[08:24] <sethk> CarlFK, if you like, you can also change the tftp directory in /etc/default/tftp-hpa
[08:24] <CarlFK> sethk: but if I am using inetd I don't want daemon mode, right?
[08:25] <sethk> CarlFK, yes.  I don't run it that way.  There is no advantage to it and it's more difficult to manage, IMHO
[08:25] <CarlFK> sethk: you don't run it witch way?
[08:25] <thundr> mwe, do you know how big is the performance hit is compared to ext3?  50% or just 5%?
[08:25] <sethk> CarlFK, I don't use inetd with it
[08:26] <mwe> thundr: actually it's faster for large files
[08:26] <sethk> thundr, nowhere near 50%.  I'd be surprised if it was as high as 10%
[08:26] <mwe> thundr: but some 10% or sth like that
[08:26] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[08:26] <djancak> friend
[08:26] <wubrgamer> can i ssh into my home machine if i know my shell password ?
[08:26] <thundr> mwe, that's certainly not huge
[08:26] <mwe> thundr: it's somewhat slower when accessing huge directory trees but uses way less cpu
[08:26] <wubrgamer> and that's all i knw ?
[08:27] <sethk> thundr, I doubt you would notice the performance difference
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> wubrgamer: you'd have to open up the ssh ports from your router (if you have one) and make sure a ssh server was running on your machine, but that's all you need (your login, and your password).
[08:27] <sethk> wubrgamer, if everything is correctly set up, then yet, that's all you need
[08:28] <mwe> thundr: no. it's more than 10% faster for very large files but about 10% slower in general I'd say
[08:28] <wubrgamer> ;?
[08:28] <wubrgamer> so all i'd need is to forward all traffic on port 22 to my desktop ?
[08:29] <wubrgamer> right ?
[08:29] <mwe> thundr: I can see the difference when copying a large file or searching a large directory tree
[08:29] <ricardo_> hi...does anybody know how to change login screen...(as with splash screen)?
[08:30] <mwe> thundr: jfs is faster when I copy a large file but slower if I use find in the root for example
[08:30] <wubrgamer> system>admin>login window
[08:30] <wubrgamer> it's the Gdmsetup program
[08:30] <wubrgamer> you need sudo privilieges
[08:30] <sethk> thundr, the question is unanswerable because it is highly dependent on usage patterns.  In typical usage I think the perceived performance will be nearly identical
[08:30] <ricardo_> wubrgamer: im under kde.... :/
[08:31] <wubrgamer> sethk ? all i need to do is forward port 22 to my server right ?
[08:31] <mwe> sethk: actually I do notice the differnce in some situations
[08:31] <nikin> can someone help me with installing imput device?
[08:31] <wubrgamer> ricardo_ go to kubuntu
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Does anyone know why K3B changes the name of my ogg files when burning them to a cd...
[08:31] <sethk> wubrgamer, I have no idea how your router might be set up.  I don't use port forwarding, I simply do not block the port.
[08:31] <wubrgamer> oh
[08:31] <ricardo_> its ok...got it!
[08:31] <wubrgamer> alright
[08:31] <wubrgamer> but i have to make sure port 22 traffic goes to my desktop righth ?
[08:32] <hoy> what is 'artsd' ?
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: do they contain non-ascii characters or are longer than 5 characters in length?
[08:32] <sethk> wubrgamer, not exactly.  If port 22 is open, and a packet is addressed to your desktop, then it will go there.
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> hoy: the art sound daemon
[08:32] <sethk> hoy, sound server for kde
[08:32] <detien> hi guys, I just installed ubuntu but I couldn't connect to the internet through my router. it detected my NIC card but it doesn't connect
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: YEs names of songs are longer than 5 letters..
[08:33] <detien> when I check the connection , it say "Name: eth0, Status: Idle
[08:33] <CarlFK> sethk: I set RUN_DAEMON="yes', restarted, but on a 2nd box "nmap -sU -p 69 cp333" shows "69/udp open|filtered tftp" and my pxe boot says "TFTP open timeout" - any clue how I can tell whats wrong?
[08:33] <operative> /quit
[08:33] <sethk> detien, there are a millions reasons why that might happen.
[08:33] <ricardo_> ok..here is another one...
[08:33] <ricardo_> how can we check for orphaned modules..
[08:33] <wubrgamer> yeah
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: it could be truncating them based on what format cd you are burning (juliet or other). One of them has a filenaming restriction.
[08:33] <ricardo_> ?
[08:33] <wubrgamer> how do i set that up ? sethk ?
[08:33] <chipp> whats the name of the app that have a huge list of shoutcast music servers and let you stream shoutcast servers with xmms?
[08:33] <fourat> i have installed dapper on my laptop, i would like to know wich alias i get for my wireless interface ( recognized on lspci )
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: It isnt truncating them, it flat out changes them.
[08:33] <detien> sethk, I'm pretty sure that the NIC card is working . I think there is something wrong with DHCP or something
[08:33] <sethk> CarlFK, I would run a packet sniffer (I use ethereal) to track down what's going on
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: ...oh
[08:34] <xbrucex> chipp, streamtuner
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: its a ghost.
[08:34] <micahcowan> Jack_Sparrow: I believe /lack/ of Joliet or Rockridge would result in truncation (vanilla ISO format doesn't support long filenames).
[08:34] <Shadow42> fourat: Try going to System>Administration>Networking to find the alias
[08:34] <kimo> detien: open a terminal, type 'sudo -i', then type 'ifconfig'. Does the output contain an IP address?
[08:34] <chipp> xbrucex. yep, thats the one.. thanks
[08:34] <micahcowan> Jack_Sparrow: (never mind...)
[08:34] <deuce_> if my secondary partition is formated to reiserfs - is it possible to make it fat32 without having to lose all the info on the partition?
[08:34] <sethk> wubrgamer, you don't have to do anything specific, as long as the packet has the destination IP of your server, and port 22 is not blocked.
[08:34] <fourat> Shadow42, i have now desktop, only from console
[08:34] <micahcowan> Jack_Sparrow: what's an example of such a change?
[08:35] <mwe> deuce_: not safely
[08:35] <sethk> deuce_, not safely, no.  You have to copy the data to somewhere, create the fat32 partition, and copy it back.
[08:35] <wubrgamer> so what do i do ? i'm really confused
[08:35] <nikin> plz sumone help me... i have to use my tablet for my job tomorrow, but cant get it installed
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> deuce_: no
[08:35] <nikin> there is something wrong with the devices
[08:35] <Shadow42> fourat: Try ifconfig
[08:35] <detienn> !dhcp
[08:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about dhcp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <sethk> wubrgamer, I would start the sshd on the machine and try to log in.  If it works, you are set.  If it doesn't, then we find out why
[08:36] <kimo> detien: that would be 'dhclient eth0'
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> !info dhcp-client
[08:36] <ubotu> dhcp-client: DHCP Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 284 kB
[08:36] <shiv> How to change font color in the panels?
[08:36] <deuce_> thanks guys - i will see what i can do
[08:36] <derekS> how do i remove a file (from the command) with an ` in its name?
[08:36] <detienn> kimo, fyrestrtr, thanks
[08:36] <npster>  I am using the command sudo pppoeconf to make a ADSL connection but it seems that something is worong with sudo network-admin  it makes a lot of pppd connections but none of them work.  Help ???
[08:36] <deuce_> any tips on easily formating it to fat32 once i get the info off?
[08:36] <minerale> hmm, I have tried changing firefoxrc to everything, aoss, auto, esd etc... I still can't play flash audio but any other kind of audio works find (ie xmms ) - anyone has had problems playing audio through flash ?
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> deuce_: use system > administration > disks
[08:37] <Gargoyle> After a clean install, should I be editing my hosts file to show a fqdn?
[08:37] <swaj> derekS: try escaping the ` .. for example "rm file\`name.txt"
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> minerale: read the wiki, there is a work around for this problem.
[08:37] <andareil> has dapper got a tutorial for nvidia driver installation yet?
[08:37] <deuce_> fyrestrtr: i'm inkubuntu but gurus in that channel aren't answering - i'll do some searching around
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Gargoyle: depends on what you are wanting out of your box. Most users don't need to edit that file.
[08:38] <kimo> !nvidia
[08:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <minerale> fyrestrtr: which wiki page? I've gone through two by now
[08:38] <derekS> swaj: i did, but its the first char
[08:38] <Gargoyle> fyrestrtr: An internet email server
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> minerale: the restricted formats one.
[08:38] <detienn> kimo, after i did "dhclient eth0" it said "No DHCPOFFERS received.
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Gargoyle: oh yeah, then you need to edit it :) Also, setup DNS properly so it resolves your hostname, otherwise you'll run into strange and mysterious problems later.
[08:39] <swaj> derekS: then rm \`file.ext
[08:39] <sethk> detienn, is there a DHCP server running on your network?  Or is the configuration set up statically?
[08:39] <derekS> swaj: nope, didn't work... gotaround it by doing *file.ext
[08:39] <detienn> sethk, I'm using a linksys router
[08:39] <Gargoyle> I see hosts has an extra entry these days, 127.0.1.1. What's that all about?
[08:39] <kimo> detienn: well then your router does have DHCP server enabled ?
[08:39] <swaj> derekS: wierd -- I just did a "touch \`test" and rm \`test on my system, worked fine
[08:39] <sethk> detienn, by default it has a DHCP server, but it may be disabled
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> Gargoyle: dunno, I never bothered with it to be honest.
[08:40] <detienn> kimo, it does
[08:40] <kimo> detienn: try 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.55' or something, then ping your router IP
[08:40] <srikat> what's the syntax to give rigths to a user? is it this --> chmod username 755 directory
[08:40] <derekS> hmm, wouldn't work here
[08:40] <chipp> o shit.. the sound sounds like crap..
[08:40] <srikat> rights*
[08:40] <mcquaid> anyone good with vncserver? i can't get it to start a wm once launched.  I just get a grey screen
[08:40] <wubrgamer> so what do i do if i have multiple machines running on the same local net though ?
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> srikat: chown is what you want.
[08:40] <srikat> su chmod username 755 directory
[08:40] <kimo> mcquaid: check the logs
[08:40] <mcquaid> i made sure there is ~/.xsession with the wm i want
[08:40] <srikat> fyrestrtr, chown username 755 dir, correct?
[08:40] <srikat> w/ 'sudo' at front
[08:41] <ogami> hello
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> srikat: no, chown username:groupname dir
[08:41] <andareil> kimo:thanks for the referral, but can u confirm that it works for drapper drake?
[08:41] <mcquaid> kimo, where does vnc write logs by default?
[08:41] <kimo> mcquaid: I think its ~/.vnc/xstartup (should have exec /usr/bin/icewm or something)
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> srikat: chown = change owner chmod = change mode
[08:41] <kimo> andareil: nope
[08:41] <mcquaid> ya i created that too
[08:41] <kimo> mcquaid: ~/.vnc
[08:41] <srikat> fyrestrtr, can you help me w/ s'thing...it's related to what I asked just now...pretty basic stuff I guess
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> srikat: join fyre-helps
[08:42] <ogami> anyone know why I keep getting errors when I try to remove xorg-driver-fglxr on breezy?
[08:42] <sethk> wubrgamer, if you have only one real IP (on the 'net), but several servers, then you have to port forward.
[08:42] <sethk> ogami, probably because something else that is installed relies on it.  what error do you get?
[08:42] <andareil> kimo: ok thanks anyways will try, but I think dapper method differs from the breezy ones
[08:43] <ogami> dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[08:43] <ogami>   when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[08:43] <ogami>   found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[08:43] <sethk> andareil, I don't believe there is any difference related to the nvidia driver.
[08:43] <frosty_badfish> is it possible that some files under a ntfs partition are invisible?
[08:43] <detienn> kimo, 64 bytes from 182.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl-64 time=2.43ms. Then the time= goes down to around 0.860 - 0.796ms
[08:43] <ogami> i was never able to get the drivers to work
[08:43] <kimo> andareil: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[08:44] <andareil> sethk: I am having problems with the nvidia latest driver
[08:44] <kimo> detienn: so it's working ok ..!
[08:44] <sethk> andareil, specifically?
[08:44] <nikin> ok i fucked up
[08:44] <kimo> detienn: now try 'route add default gw 192.168.0.1' where this is your router's IP, & you should be on the Internet
[08:45] <mcquaid> damn, doesn't seem to matter what I have in .xsession or xstartup i keep getting a grey screen with vnc
[08:45] <kimo> mcquaid: logs ?
[08:45] <sethk> kimo, probably he also needs to set his name server
[08:45] <bl3ssing> how can I find this xmule/amule? :( I tried with adept, but not working (read only mode).
[08:45] <buntu418> hey is there a software like macromedia dreamweaver for linux?
[08:45] <nikin> does anyone know any wacom like drawing table supported by linux?
[08:45] <andareil> sethk: I have tried the link kimo just gave, but I receive errors on every step
[08:45] <buntu418> plss help
[08:45] <mcquaid> kimo, where does vnc log errors?
[08:45] <sethk> andareil, put the first error you get on the paste 'bot
[08:46] <detienn> kimo, thanks it's working now
[08:46] <ardchoille> bl3ssing: They're both in universe
[08:46] <kimo> sethk: oh yeah ... the name server in '/etc/resolv.conf' should have 'nameserver 62.240.110.197' multi name servers are allowed
[08:46] <buntu418> hey is there a software like macromedia dreamweaver for linux?
[08:46] <kimo> detienn: cool ,should work automatically though!
[08:46] <kimo> detienn: did u try network manager
[08:46] <andareil> lol I am on windoze right now
[08:46] <kimo> mcquaid: logs in ~/.vnc
[08:47] <mcquaid> doh
[08:47] <bl3ssing> ardchoille, UNIVERSE? Am I not in Universe too? :D Can you explain, please? Thank you.
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> !universe
[08:47] <ardchoille> !info amule
[08:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Does anyone here use K3B to create audio CD's
[08:47] <detienn> kimo, I haven't. I'm updating Ubuntu right now.
[08:47] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[08:47] <kimo> mcquaid: u need to start a new vnc server & connect to that after changing configs!
[08:47] <ardchoille> !info xmule
[08:47] <ubotu> xmule: eMule client for the edonkey2000 network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0b-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 891 kB, installed size 2800 kB
[08:47] <mcquaid> yes i've been doing that
[08:47] <mcquaid> thx
[08:47] <mcquaid> looking through logs now
[08:48] <npster> I HAVE A PROBLEM CAN SOMEONE LISTEN ?
[08:48] <mcquaid> kimo, ok this is weird: sh: /home/mcquaid/.vnc/xstartup: Permission denied
[08:48] <andareil> sethk: command:sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential gcc gcc-3.4 xserver-xorg-dev, I get error no build essential package found
[08:48] <kimo> andareil: did u get the nvidia page
[08:48] <kimo> mcquaid: chomd +x the file
[08:48] <andareil> kimo:yep i did
[08:48] <mcquaid> ah
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: Not when you yell...
[08:48] <andareil> kimo:but I had already tried that
[08:48] <buntu418> helpful guys.. is there a software like macromedia dreamweaver for linux?
[08:48] <kiran> Anyone here have any experience wirh MoBlock 0.8 ?
[08:49] <kimo> andareil: oops .. sorry then
[08:49] <ardchoille> !repeat
[08:49] <sethk> andareil, sounds like your repository setup isn't correct, or you didn't do apt-get update, or something similar.
[08:49] <andareil> kimo: np
[08:49] <kiran> Anyone?
[08:50] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:50] <mcquaid> kimo, now it works, thank you.
[08:50] <mcquaid> should have noticed that
[08:50] <kimo> np
[08:50] <andareil> sethk: yep no apt-get update done yet, also when i try to remove restricted modules I geet an error "not found"
[08:50] <bl3ssing> ardchoille, UNIVERSE?  Can you explain, please? Thank you.
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> buntu418: nvu, screem and quanta+ are a few choices for you
[08:50] <tiede> hi everyone. One quick question: I have decided to install Xgl/Compwiz on my Laptop... I just want to know if you guys think it is possible with this: tiede@tieded:~$ lspci|grep Display 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[08:50] <Stuttergart> Anyone here doing Xen hypervisor dom0 on Dapper?
[08:50] <ardchoille> !universe > bl3ssing
[08:51] <buntu418> fyrestrtr: thanks u very much
[08:51] <sethk> andareil, you have a much more fundamental issue than the nvidia driver.  Not sure what it is, though.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> tiede: doubt it will work, if it did, it would be very slow.
[08:51] <tiede> conpwiz is not compatible with sis cards?
[08:51] <andareil> sethk: yep bugging me, I would have solved it if been a basic issue
[08:51] <kimo> buntu418: condeweavers might be a non free choice! http://www.codeweavers.com/site/store/ads/dreamweaver?ad=10
[08:52] <tiede> fyrestrtr, is this a problem related to Sis cards and compwiz?
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> tiede: yeah, in that they don't support acceleration very well.
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> tiede: check the ubuntu wiki for xgl (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl) for a link that lists supported hardware.
[08:53] <tiede> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:53] <frosty_badfish> I can only connect with vnc to my destination after a user is logged in the destination pc, why is that?
[08:53] <Gorlist> Hi
[08:53] <Gorlist> ive just had to reinstall Windows on my primary drive - is their a way to resetup duel boot from within XP without having to reinstall the Grub loader?
[08:54] <Gorlist> in my boot.ini it just has
[08:54] <Gorlist> [boot loader] 
[08:54] <Gorlist> timeout=30
[08:54] <Gorlist> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[08:54] <Gorlist> [operating systems] 
[08:54] <Gorlist> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
[08:54] <andareil> sethk: u know anyone who can point me towards the solution
[08:54] <sonicchao> !pastebin > Gorlist
[08:54] <Gorlist> sorry!
[08:54] <Gorlist> is their a way I can add ubuntu to the boot.ini?
[08:54] <sonicchao> Gorlist: Its ok. =) Just remember to use a PasteBin
[08:54] <Gorlist> will do in future :)
[08:55] <kimo> Gorlist: there is, but it's not so easy. The easiest way is to put Grub on MBR
[08:55] <Gorlist> ah, assumed I could have just put it into the boot.ini :(
[08:55] <Gorlist> (not a great fan of grub as ive got a wireless keyboard, fine in bios etc but never grub)
[08:55] <kimo> Gorlist: nope, u'd have to cut boot sectors and juggle them
[08:56] <Gorlist> i see, is it pretty safe reinstalling the grub loadeR?
[08:56] <kimo> Gorlist: yeah! U might wanna look at third party bootloaders for the USB keyboard problem!
[08:56] <sethk> andareil, I'm not sure whether you have a dpkg configuration issue that is dapper specific, or just a dpkg configuration issue.  Perhaps dapper is a red herring here, and you should just check your dpkg installation
[08:57] <Gorlist> will keep it simple and go with grub :)
[08:57] <kimo> Gorlist: so u basically cant change which OS to boot ?? how is grub useful then
[08:57] <bl3ssing> ardchoille, thanks man. Everything's perfect now.
[08:57] <visik7> grub is easy to setup
[08:58] <bl3ssing> how can I find xmule/amule to install it? Tried with Adept, but no X.AMULE
[08:58] <bl3ssing> :(
[08:58] <Gorlist> because I will dig out my old wired keyboard
[08:58] <kimo> !universe > bl3ssing
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: you need universe repos to be enabled for xmule
[08:59] <Gorlist> my googling has dug up a free boot loader
[08:59] <chipp> something is wierd with my sound.. i got sound but when i play music it sounds like crap.. how do i change sound driver (module/whatever we call it) alsa etc etc?
[08:59] <visik7> will ubuntu fix bugs for gaim with msn and kopete for icq ?
[08:59] <mcquaid> kimo, maybe you know this as well, how does one alt tab through apps in the viewer?
[08:59] <dreamthief> strange, that the bios recognizes your keyboard but grub doesn't @ Gorlist
[08:59] <mcquaid> i press f8 and select alt then tab works but can't actually select an app
[08:59] <Gorlist> yes
[08:59] <Gorlist> Bios will work fine, so does installing everything - only grub
[08:59] <Taylor> how well would ubuntu run on a P3 800Mhz 512MB RAM, 11MB Intel Video?
[08:59] <sethk> make sure "legacy usb keyboard" is enabled in the bios
[09:00] <sethk> Taylor, reasonably well
[09:00] <Gorlist> unless its motherboard related issue?
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Taylor: good enough for government work :)
[09:00] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, how can I do that, please?
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> visik7: only the people that develop gaim fix its bugs, not ubuntu.
[09:01] <_libra_> Hi
[09:01] <visik7> fyrestrtr: the bug is fixed the mantainer of gaim for ubuntu need to get the bug and put in the package
[09:01] <thundr> hi
[09:01] <dreamthief> Gorlist, I believe sethk is right. its probably an issue of a wrong configured bios...
[09:01] <kimo> Gorlist: if BIOS works ok, check if u have a BIOS setting mode for 'legacy' or the like ...
[09:01] <kimo> mcquaid: which viewer r u using
[09:01] <Taylor> sethk: would xubuntu run much faster?
[09:01] <mcquaid> vnc4viewer
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: right 2 options. First follow instructions on this link (need to correct non-free): http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:02] <dreamthief> the bios has to emulate a traditional keyboard for those applications like grub that cant handle usb-keyboards ...
[09:02] <ramiroec> Taylor : xfce is also most fast thank KDE or GNOME
[09:02] <ramiroec> Taylor : xfce is also most fast than KDE or GNOME
[09:02] <dreamthief> most fast?
[09:02] <sethk> Taylor, depends on your usage patterns.  probably a lower overhead window manager would be a good choice
[09:02] <zugu> hello
[09:02] <ogami> :( I reinstalled xorg-driver-fglxr but now 'modprobe fglxr' fails to find the fglxr module
[09:02] <dreamthief> ^^
[09:02] <ramiroec> more fast ...xD
[09:02] <Gorlist> ok, will check when I reboot!
[09:02] <kimo> mcquaid: that's on a Linux machine as well ?
[09:02] <chipp> something is wierd with my sound.. i got sound but when i play music it sounds like crap.. how do i change sound driver (module/whatever we call it) alsa etc etc?
[09:02] <dverzolla> What is the option in xorg.conf to xserver listen in tcp ?
[09:02] <_libra_> I have a pc with breezy, a swap and a fat 32 partition. Once I insert the Dapper CD installation and arrive to the partitioning step it sais there's no partition (and shows all the space as unasigned), what can I do?
[09:02] <chipp> anyone?
[09:02] <mcquaid> yes
[09:03] <sethk> ogami, it's an X module, not a kernel module.  has nothing to do with modprobe
[09:03] <zugu> where can I find an up-to-date dapper cd image, so that after installation there will be no need for updating packages?
[09:03] <ogami> why does it say to use modprobe at help.ubuntu.com ?
[09:03] <Taylor> sethk, mainly just using this laptop for internet, messaging, email, etc.
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> _libra_: use the alternate cd and upgrade, or follow the !upgrade instructions
[09:03] <mcquaid> i can send the alt by pressing f8 and selecting from the menu then the tab key cycles through running apps but can't actually select one
[09:03] <ogami> https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/fg-hardware.html#installatidriver
[09:03] <sethk> _libra_, that's very odd.  is your IDE hardware of any use?
[09:03] <minerale> I have not installed ubuntu for long, but this is turning out to be a serious frustration, no matter how I edit firefoxrc what packages I add, I still can't get flash audio to work...
[09:03] <ogami> is that a mistake on the webpage?
[09:04] <kimo> mcquaid: cant remember though, but I usually use 'krdc' from KDE. Bet Gnome has some viewer as well. If that doesnt help, try configuring a different shortcut key for the remote machine!
[09:04] <sethk> ogami, there may be a kernel module, but the one you mentioned is an x server module.  the fact that one exists doesn't imply that the other does not (nor that it does)
[09:04] <mcquaid> k
[09:04] <dreamthief> minerale, flash audio works perfectly...
[09:04] <mcquaid> thx
[09:04] <dreamthief> no problem here
[09:04] <_libra_> fyrestrtr where can I find that instructions?
[09:04] <sethk> ogami, the module you referenced in your apt-get command is an X server module, so that's why modproble doesn't find it.  so perhaps you need to install another fxgl related package
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > bl3ssing:
[09:05] <ogami> sethk, i'm not trying to be argumentative
[09:05] <chipp> how do i change between alsa, oss etc?
[09:05] <ogami> i'm just following what it says at help.ubuntu.com exactly
[09:05] <_libra_> sethk it's a almost new laptop
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > _libra_
[09:05] <sethk> ogami, neither am I
[09:05] <RepriSaL> may i get help here? I've tried several howto's and been working on it the whole day without good results (Ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386, ATI 9250) ?! thx a lot
[09:05] <sethk> ogami, I'm trying to explain that there are two types of modules and that may be contributing to your problem
[09:06] <Tenable> www.nessus.org
[09:06] <Gorlist> just done a search on the Buntu forums - got lots of posts how to reinstall the Grub, which is the best way of doing it?
[09:06] <sethk> ogami, of course it's possible that I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am in this case.
[09:06] <Gorlist> !Grub
[09:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:07] <karim> hi
[09:07] <thundr> hi
[09:07] <_libra_> I also tried to use update-manager but after restart I get a nasty "ALERT! /dev/hda6 does not exist. Dropping to a shell"
[09:07] <ogami> its weird that the ubuntu starterguide says to use modprobe
[09:07] <karim> I am searching someone who knows how to fix pam
[09:07] <ogami> they dont say to install anything other than xorg-driver-fglxr
[09:07] <ogami> https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/fg-hardware.html#installatidriver
[09:07] <zugu> where can I download dapper cd image with the latest security updates?
[09:07] <sethk> ogami, it's the second part that's weird, then.  the instructions may assume that the kernel module already exists.
[09:08] <ubuntu> hi, you guys, heheh
[09:08] <ogami> weird
[09:08] <sethk> ogami, there is no denying that modprobe looks for kernel modules.  modprobe fails for a reason.  It's logical, therefore, to assume that modprobe fails because the module isn't there.
[09:08] <Rikkimaru_> for some reason the time/calendar in the upper right corner is missing.  How can I add it to the panel?
[09:08] <sethk> ogami, do a find in /lib/modules for a file with fglx in the name.
[09:09] <karim> can anyone help please ?
[09:09] <zugu> Rikkimaru_, right click the upper panel, find "add to panel", click it, select "clock"
[09:09] <kimo> karim: hi ... what's the problem
[09:09] <sethk> ogami, I checked on my box and there is a module named   fglrx   (note, not fglxr)
[09:09] <planttt> hey, I am having trouble booting my ubuntu-amd64 install. it seems like the kernel doesn't support my Adaptec 19160 scsi card: it cannot mount the rootfs
[09:10] <sethk> ogami, check the doc and see if it is saying to do modprobe for fglxr rather than fglrx
[09:10] <zugu> Rikkimaru_, don't forget to right click the clock afterwards and "move" it where you want
[09:10] <detienn> This is my laptop spec http://www.visionary-networks.com/howto/s6210.html. Should I install xgl and compiz ?
[09:10] <karim> kimo: hi. I can't log as a user. only root can do things
[09:10] <ogami> "sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:10] <ogami> "
[09:10] <Rikkimaru_> zugu: blahh. I can never find it until someone tells me  :(
[09:10] <ogami> hmm
[09:10] <karim> kimo: the auth is totaly down
[09:10] <ogami> i didnt find fglx in /lib/modules
[09:10] <kimo> karim: did u change any PAM settings!
[09:11] <Rikkimaru_> zugu: any idea what the panel is called that shows what app are currently open?
[09:11] <Rikkimaru_> zugu: the one in the top right, not the thing on the bottom
[09:11] <karim> kimo: I don't know, I don't have changed manually at least
[09:11] <bl3ssing> couldn't find the source list ... what happend? I'm trying to full upgrade the adept, and ... I can't do anything. :(
[09:11] <karim> kimo: I installed with make install and evrything went bad
[09:12] <zugu> Rikkimaru_ similarly, you can add the window list, by right clicking the panel, selecting "add to panel" and choosing "window list"
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <kimo> karim: make install!! Why on earth would u install PAM from source code!!
[09:12] <karim> kimo: if there is a way to reset everything. problem is I know nothing what pam is doing. I guess there is some daemons
[09:12] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, what can I do with this etc/apt..?
[09:12] <karim> kimo: not full pam, just pammount
[09:12] <zugu> can anyone please tell me where can I download dapper cd image with the latest security updates?
[09:12] <Rikkimaru_> zugu: hmm, I don't think that's the one I meant
[09:12] <karim> kimo: not full pam, just libpam-mount
[09:13] <zugu> Rikkimaru_ please be more explicit
[09:13] <RepriSaL> s.o. tried to generate ubuntu packages for ati 8.27.10? ...it fails on my side, even after troubleshooting
[09:13] <thundr> zugu, can't you just find it at www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:13] <Rikkimaru_> zugu: before when I had network selector or some other program up, an icon appeared in the top right that I could right click and edit preferences and what-not.
[09:13] <zugu> thundr are you sure that the www.ubuntu.com/download has the latest security updates included?
[09:13] <kimo> karim: did u check /var/log/messages for problem describtion
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> zugu: latest security updates are available from repositories only.
[09:14] <zugu> fyrestrtr :(
[09:14] <kimo> karim: the last line
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> zugu: you would need to install from the image, then update.
[09:14] <thundr> zugu, when you install ubuntu, it'll offer to update it
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> piihl: glad it worked out.
[09:14] <zugu> fyrestrtr, i know, that is what i'm trying to avoid
[09:14] <snook353> for connecting to a college wireless network, anyone heard of some kind of "Blue---" system of connecting?
[09:15] <piihl> me too ;)
[09:15] <ingram> hi lads and mates
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> snook353: Bluetooth?
[09:15] <ingram> i need a big help
[09:15] <snook353> nope...
[09:15] <ingram> Now...
[09:15] <snook353> i think it has somethin to do with windows
[09:15] <ingram> How do i remove ntfs disks from computer:///
[09:15] <duelboot> !ask
[09:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:15] <thundr> zugu, it'd only be a few minutes that your computer was without the latest security updates.
[09:15] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: either go into adept and go to Adept Menu -> Manage Repositories or edit it using an editor e.g. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, but if you edit it, back it up first
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[09:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:16] <tiede> do you mean to reformat it or unplug it, ingram
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> bl3ssing: or go there :)
[09:16] <ingram> I amke two pics. I show...
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> okay time for sleep.
[09:16] <ingram> make*
[09:16] <karim> kimo: no
[09:16] <zugu> thundr i know, but the PC i have would spend just as much on updating as on installing; it's a legacy machine and the network connection is not so good
[09:16] <kimo> karim: well take a look, it will tell u what's wrong
[09:16] <zugu> thundr *internet connection
[09:16] <sethk> ingram, you mean reuse ntfs partitions?  use mkfs.ext3 on the partition (which will, of course, erase everything on it)
[09:17] <tiede> whatever do you mean, ingram
[09:17] <kimo> karim: u might also try going to the source code directory & 'make uninstall'. BTW, PAM has no daemons
[09:17] <tiede> I am sorry I did not quite catch that ingram ...
[09:17] <duelboot> ingram, there is now a way to read/write to ntfs partitions
[09:17] <planttt> hey, I am having trouble booting my ubuntu-amd64 install. it seems like the kernel doesn't support my Adaptec 19160 scsi card: it cannot mount the rootfs
[09:17] <kimo> karim: if the uninstall doesnt fix it, try force removing and reinstalling all pam deb packages
[09:18] <thundr> zugu, anyone - isn't there a way to simply download the packages from a working ubuntu machine and then put it on a cd/network connection and use dpkg or something to install it on the legacy machine?
[09:18] <kimo> karim: but a look in /var/log/messages last lines is worthless to understand the problem ..
[09:18] <rellim> my install hangs when trying to mount the root filesytem on boot, anyone know why?
[09:18] <tiede> really duelboot ? A safe way? Hmmm... Not having internet for the last month must have really taken its toll on me. I shal look into that
[09:18] <kimo> karim: and if u live in Egypt, u can pay me to solve it for you ;)
[09:18] <duelboot> tiede, ntfs-3g...safe is all relative
[09:19] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, I've already tried to done that, but I dion't have gedit.
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> thundr: I think the packages may be on the alternative install CD
[09:19] <duelboot> thundr, there is but don't remember it at the moment
[09:19] <tiede> ingram,  you still haven't explained what exactly your problem is...
[09:19] <planttt> rellim: what harddisk/filesystem do you have on the rootfs?
[09:19] <rellim> bl3ssing: how do you not have gedit?
[09:19] <zugu> thundr there is a way, but an up-to-date cd image would have been better; anyway, I think I should give the Edgy daily build a try, what do you people think?
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: using gnome or kde?
[09:19] <rellim> planttt: 60gb maxtor, linux only, reiserfs
[09:19] <sethk> ingram, writing to ntfs is still convoluted, and direct writing is still unsafe.
[09:20] <duelboot> oh, and tiede, it was released within the last month
[09:20] <planttt> rellim: and reiser is compiled into the kernel (not as a module) ?
[09:20] <sethk> ingram, there is a workaround using wine, but that isn't really new.
[09:20] <ingram> I need to remove ntfs disks from computer:/// (in nautilus)
[09:20] <planttt> rellim: aamof, i am having the same problem, but seems to be connected to my scsi card
[09:20] <rellim> planttt: don't know ... just said it was reiserfs during the install ... i assume as a module
[09:20] <duelboot> ingram, remove as in unmount?
[09:20] <sethk> ingram,  you can umount them
[09:21] <bumodo> hiya folks
[09:21] <sethk> ingram, remove them from /etc/fstab and the will not be mounted automatically
[09:21] <nikin> damn i hate this stuff
[09:21] <nikin> why wont anyithing work
[09:21] <rellim> planttt: i plan to just reinstall and try it with ext3 fs ... i don't care either way as long as it works :P
[09:21] <thundr> The development build is usually broken this early after release, so if it were me, I'd wait, but since I'm not using Edgy (and the release is sooner than usual) it might be OK to use.
[09:21] <ingram> fstab lines are removed but inactive drives are still in computer://
[09:21] <karim> kimo: I am looking
[09:21] <duelboot> nikin...need more specifics...hehe
[09:21] <zugu> nikin just be calm and state your problem :)
[09:21] <planttt> rellim: i'd try that yes, I changed that also...
[09:21] <RoninGurl> How do you install Beagle desktop search in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[09:21] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, kde.
[09:21] <karim> kimo: there is not really something intersting in the logs
[09:21] <nikin> duelboot: Genius Wizardpen
[09:21] <karim> kimo: how can I trace what happens ?
[09:21] <bl3ssing> rellim, just simple. I don't have it. :)
[09:22] <planttt> rellim: the standard ubuntu kernel is not very forgiving for 'other' hw or filesystems
[09:22] <nikin> I have a Genius Wizardpen bit it is not working
[09:22] <bumodo> anyone know where I can find a list of the versions of what easyubuntu installs?
[09:22] <nikin> and i cant get it to work
[09:22] <tiede> I was just reading such on sourceforge. But thanks anyway duelboot
[09:22] <duelboot> nikin, sorry can't help you
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list (have you backed this file up? )
[09:22] <zugu> thundr allright, i guess i'll do a little bit of betatesting then :)
[09:23] <ingram> from this: http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/6471/kuvatmmisnn0.png to this: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2839/kuvatmmis2ma2.png
[09:23] <thundr> zugu, anyway, if you're concerned about security I'd just use Dapper for now and update.
[09:23] <duelboot> no prob tiede...I use it on my personal laptop, but nothing else
[09:23] <nikin> i have find the solution, i buy a wacom, and put this Genius thing on fire :D
[09:23] <eitch0000_> anyone got quicktime movies running in firefox like from trailers.apple.com?
[09:23] <tiede> do you know how to unmount a partition ingram? or do you need help?
[09:23] <RoninGurl> How do you install Beagle desktop search in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[09:24] <ingram> i know how to umount :)
[09:24] <ingram> but they are not going away there
[09:24] <gnomefreak> RoninGurl: the deskbar applet should be installed by default or you can install beagle
[09:24] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, how can I do it?
[09:24] <duelboot> RoninGurl, CLI or Synaptic Package manager...should be there...if not, I'm not sure which repository has it
[09:24] <RoninGurl> gnomefreak, i dont see anything named beagle in the add to panel options.
[09:25] <gnomefreak> RoninGurl: you wont i said its called deskbar applet
[09:25] <||arifaX> eitch0000_, mplayer plugin for firefox does it here
[09:25] <ingram> automount is doing that
[09:25] <gnomefreak> RoninGurl: sudo apt-get install beagle (for the full beagle experence
[09:25] <thundr> zugu, Edgy's coming out in october, right?  If it gets broken, it won't be broken for long, *however* Edgy will have more updates to install than Dapper, and potentially more bugs.
[09:25] <tiede> Is it giving you an error message, ingram? Maybe you're still using a file from it...
[09:25] <kimo> karim: how can u trace? login as root, issue 'tail -f /var/log/messages' then ALT+F2 and try to login as user .. see what's printed in the logs
[09:26] <eitch0000_> ||arifaX: but how? must I first remove other packages? Or how do I tell firefox to use it?
[09:26] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, done it ! I mean ... I've already typed the command you said ... kdesu kate ...
[09:26] <bl3ssing> :)
[09:26] <zugu> thundr, well i think it's time to give back more to the community, so i'll beta test fot a while
[09:26] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, now? :)
[09:26] <tiede> go to /etc/fstab and remove the remount entry in your ntfs partition's line. ingram
[09:26] <TheGateKeeper> eitch0000_: yes thanks :-)
[09:26] <thundr> Okay, zugu, good luck :)
[09:26] <zugu> thundr, thanks
[09:26] <bumodo> ha nevermind, I just realized I was in #ubuntu and not #easyubuntu
[09:26] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: have you backed the file up?
[09:27] <ingram> tiede, i removed these lines first
[09:27] <tiede> ingram, also make sure the line does not have the word noauto
[09:27] <ingram> there are no diffrence
[09:27] <tiede> Did you remove the entry altogether and restarted the computer?
[09:27] <ingram> MY FSTAB IS OK, NTFS LINES ARE REMOVED
[09:27] <ingram> got it?
[09:27] <||arifaX> eitch0000_, install mozilla-mplayer package and of course you need the codecs
[09:27] <karim> kimo: it just say the underlying user doesn't exist
[09:27] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, YES !
[09:28] <sethk> ingram, and?  your point?
[09:28] <eitch0000_> ||arifaX: as in w32codecs? those are installed... mozilla-mplayer is installed... but how do I know that firefox wants to use mplayer instead of some other player?
[09:28] <duelboot> HIS FSTAB IS OKAY sethk :)
[09:29] <sethk> duelboot, ok, not that we've settled that ... :)
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: follow the rest of the instructions here (BTW PLF repos need correcting) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:29] <tiede> try a reboot, ingram. The disk partitioner in Admistration->Disk sometime acts crazily
[09:30] <r3mi> Anybody knows why all videos would play fine on my Ubuntu but H264 are blurry (audio is ok and video is ok sometime too if it is a still image) im using VLC
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: change line deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: to deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: change line deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: to deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[09:31] <ingram> i'll try reboot now, i denied these partitions there
[09:32] <thundr> I just ran out of space using dpkg and want to resize the partition.  However, in gparted, it's locked (since it's the main ubuntu partion).  Is there a way I can resize it upon reboot before it mounts?
[09:32] <zugu> r3mi, there is already a bug submited at launchpad regarding your problem, you can find it here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/vlc/+bug/28539
[09:32] <Nuked> Currently customizing ubuntu live cd, and I get this error unable to lookup ool-44c79bae via gethostbyname()
[09:32] <Nuked> any help would be very appreciated
[09:32] <||arifaX> eitch0000_, dunno
[09:32] <kimo> karim: r u sure it exists!! how about if u try a new user 'useradd test' 'passwd test' then try logging in as user test
[09:33] <spiral777> I'm a new ubuntu user, and I'm trying to customize grub, I keep getting told to run Gnome-System-Tools, anyone tell me how I can do that?
[09:34] <r3mi> zugu: thanks for the info
[09:34] <Spec> in vim how do I delete from my cursor all the way to the top of the file?
[09:34] <kimo> Spec: dgg
[09:34] <Nuked> " unable to lookup ool-44c79bae via gethostbyname() " how do I fix this?
[09:35] <kimo> Nuked: where do u get this ?
[09:35] <mkns> Nuked - if you just changed your hostname, reboot
[09:35] <Nuked> kimo: when customizing ubuntu live cd
[09:35] <Spec> kimo: 166571 fewer lines, thanks :)
[09:35] <kimo> Nuked: oh .. too complex :)
[09:35] <dr_willis> vi! Making complex tasks a trivial in just a few keystrokes
[09:35] <kimo> Spec: cool
[09:36] <Spec> kimo: another question...how do I delete every line that doesn't have the word 'foobar' in it? :)
[09:36] <Nuked> kimo what do you mean?
[09:36] <ingram> now
[09:36] <kimo> Nuked: I'm not sure how to help
[09:36] <ingram> its went a bit weird
[09:36] <wiking> with wich prog can launch windows progs?
[09:36] <tiede> spiral777, do you have the package installed? If not, get it there: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/
[09:36] <kimo> Spec: as in, cat /path/file | grep foobar > newfile
[09:36] <ingram> error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[09:36] <Spec> kimo: yes...i guess i'll do that :)
[09:37] <duelboot> wiking, wine
[09:37] <spiral777> Tiede> I have the package installed, I'm just not sure how to run it, I added it thru synaptics
[09:37] <kimo> Spec: #vim would know more than me
[09:37] <sethk> ingram, well, I'm sure /dev/hda1 is not removable.
[09:37] <tiede> glad to know things worked out for you ingram... Sometimes the remnant of a command is within the kernel and it just won't go.
[09:37] <Spec> the non-vim way is good :)
[09:37] <wiking> duelboot, where can it get?
[09:37] <Nuked> is there anyone in this room that can help me in my quest to customize the LIVE cd?
[09:37] <sethk> ingram, which suggests that, just possibly, your fstab is still not correct.  just possibly
[09:37] <zugu> wiking, www.winehq.com
[09:37] <kimo> Spec: actaully no need to cat, just grep foobar file > newfile
[09:37] <klito> alguien que hable espaol?
[09:38] <RogerBacon> hi, i found cross over pro 5.0 the link is there : http://rapidshare.de/files/6874664/install_coopro500sh.zip.html
[09:38] <Nuked> !es
[09:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:38] <tiede> spiral777, try pressing the keys Alt+F2 and in the box that pops up, enter gnome-system-tools
[09:38] <mwe> !wine
[09:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:38] <wiking> zugu, thnx!
[09:38] <klito> gracias
[09:38] <Spec> kimo: indeed
[09:38] <duelboot> add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/  to your sources.list
[09:38] <duelboot> wiking, see above comment
[09:38] <ingram> in fstab there are nothing about /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1
[09:38] <ingram> this is caused by automount
[09:38] <FurryNemesis> duelboot, is that the latest version ie the one that cae out this morning?
[09:39] <duelboot> FurryNemesis, don't know
[09:39] <Zyfo> How do I run a ssh server?
[09:39] <geekdom> Hey is twm ( tom's window manager ) or any light weight window manager available for ubuntu ?    apt-get install  twm ?
[09:39] <FurryNemesis> geekdom, xcfe
[09:39] <kimo> geekdom: yep better use icewm though
[09:39] <Nuked> geekdom: fluxbox
[09:39] <geekdom> Thansk
[09:39] <sethk> ingram, you have an automount on a local drive?  why?
[09:39] <RogerBacon> hi, i found the CrossOver Professional 5.0 (like WINE) The link is here (no password ) anjoy : http://rapidshare.de/files/6874664/install_coopro500sh.zip.html
[09:39] <tiede> so did you get it running spiral777?
[09:40] <Nuked> is there anyone in this room capable of helping me customize ubuntu's live cd?
[09:40] <geekdom> : Couldn't find package xcfe
[09:40] <zugu> Nuked, what do you want to customize?
[09:40] <ingram> sethk it came with ubuntu, i am nothing set
[09:40] <bobbyd> hi
[09:40] <Nuked> xubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <thundr> I just ran out of space using dpkg and want to resize the partition.  However, in gparted, it's locked (since it's the main ubuntu partion).  Is there a way I can resize it upon reboot before it mounts?
[09:40] <sethk> geekdom, xfce, not xcfe
[09:40] <bobbyd> does anyone have a recommended guide for dual booting winxp and ubuntu dapper?
[09:40] <spiral777> Tiede> No, I just lost my connection for a second, missed everything after saying I had installed it
[09:40] <sethk> thundr, you can try booting a live cd and running gparted, then continuing the install
[09:40] <Nuked> zugu, basically packages and some other minor things
[09:41] <geekdom> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:41] <geekdom> E: Couldn't find package xfce
[09:41] <geekdom> root@ubuntu:~/vmware-server-console-distrib#
[09:41] <wasabi_> Anybody familiar with Alsa failures? All of my alsa programs are failing to play sounds... they throw some crap to stderr, too.
[09:41] <thundr> bobbyd, all I had to do was install dapper after installing xp
[09:41] <wasabi_> About missing config files.
[09:41] <karim> kimo: it fails
[09:41] <Nuked> geekdom try xubuntu-desktop
[09:41] <sethk> geekdom, use synaptic and search for xfce.  that isn't the full package name
[09:41] <wasabi_> Which may be true, but I'm unsure what files are missing.
[09:41] <karim> kimo: I can't add a user. I tried to dpkg -t force-all for pam packages, I will see what happens
[09:42] <geekdom> ok
[09:42] <tiede> ok. Press Alt+F2 on your keyboard then type in the box that pops up gnome-system-tools
[09:42] <steveire> Any idea how I might find out the distance between Munich and Stuttgart in Germany? I've no atlas handy
[09:42] <thundr> sethk, I know.  I was just hoping that there would be a way - other partitioners seem to be able to do it.
[09:42] <zugu> Nuked, so you want to install packages on a dapper live cd? i think it's the same way, "apt-get install packagename", or "dpkg -i package_name.deb" for specific debs
[09:42] <klito> espaol
[09:42] <tiede> tell me how it went spiral777 when you're done
[09:42] <gnomefreak> !es
[09:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:43] <Nuked> no I want to roll my own live cd, for a specialized usage
[09:43] <sethk> thundr, I don't believe there is in this case.  resizing partitions is dangerous.  even the best commercial resizers warn you to back up all data before resizing
[09:43] <paulgb> I have a second hard disk. I can mount it through system->administration->disks, but when I reboot the computer I have to mount it again
[09:43] <Nuked> im modifying the iso
[09:43] <RogerBacon> if you want Crossover office Pro 5.0 (.sh) no pass : http://rapidshare.de/files/6874664/install_coopro500sh.zip.html
[09:43] <steveire> maps.google.de sorted me out actually
[09:43] <zugu> Nuked, can't help you, sorry :(
[09:43] <paulgb> how can I set it up so I don't have to re mount each time?
[09:43] <geekdom> Thank you guys.   It works !!!!
[09:43] <sethk> Nuked, a better strategy is to create an installed system with the packages you want, and then create a live cd from the installed system.
[09:43] <dapet> Somebody have experience with installing the driver to netgear WG111v2 adapter?
[09:44] <Nuked> RogerBacon: is that legal?
[09:44] <RogerBacon> ? is not free
[09:44] <thundr> sethk, Okay.  I guess I've just been lucky.
[09:44] <oasiao> Hey someone know of a program , or how i can turn words nto binary form
[09:44] <gnomefreak> RogerBacon: dont spam in here
[09:44] <oasiao> into*
[09:44] <Nuked> sethk, you willing to help?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> RogerBacon: join #ubuntu-offtopic for it
[09:44] <kimo> karim: u might wanna do 'make uninstall' as well
[09:44] <RogerBacon> yes but i think is a great project
[09:44] <zugu> Zyfo, install openssh-server
[09:44] <frosty_badfish> How does it come when I connect with ssh and vnc that I only get a gray screen?
[09:44] <bobbyd> is there any way to use zeroconf to resolve computer names on a lan so I don't need to put them all in /etc/hosts ?
[09:44] <RogerBacon> ok
[09:45] <ingram> error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable, how do i remove the disk from list then?
[09:45] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[09:45] <Nuked> !fr
[09:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:45] <dapet> Somebody have experience with installing the driver to netgear WG111v2 adapter?
[09:45] <zugu> !ro
[09:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ro - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:45] <Nuked> zugu.... romanian?
[09:45] <[Wiebel] > when using ap_scan=2 in wpa_supplicant it can connect to hidden networks, but it seems I can't switch (using kwlan) between de networks
[09:46] <zugu> Nuked yes
[09:46] <[Wiebel] > when using ap_scan=1 i can't connect to hidden networks
[09:46] <[Wiebel] > any idea?
[09:46] <Nuked> lol I figured
[09:46] <Nuked> !sq
[09:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about sq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:46] <zugu> Nuked, you too?
[09:46] <majestikm> I'm using rEFIt and lilo to tri-boot on a macbook.  When I try to load windows, it takes me to lilo and loads ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[09:46] <Nuked> zugu I lived in romania for a short time
[09:46] <karim> kimo: I tried that already
[09:46] <karim> I can't believe linux is unusable
[09:46] <karim> and unrecoverable
[09:46] <karim> that's a shame
[09:46] <Gorlist> hi again - another quick question :)
[09:46] <karim> fuck
[09:47] <LGKeiz> What a good win32 emulator, other then wine
[09:47] <mwe> [Wiebel] : ndiswrapper?
[09:47] <[Wiebel] > mwe wext driver (ipw2200)
[09:47] <Gorlist> In Ubuntu I can open my HD with Windows installed, can the same be done with XP?
[09:47] <duelboot> !language
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:47] <dapet> Somebody have experience with installing the driver to netgear WG111v2 adapter?
[09:47] <zugu> LGKeiz, cedega, but it's mostly for games, and it's commercial; or you could try crossover office
[09:47] <LGKeiz> ty
[09:47] <Gorlist> ive found Cedega very good for applications in general
[09:47] <Nuked> sethk, you around
[09:48] <mwe> [Wiebel] : hmm. I don't know. I had some weird problems with hidden aps and ndiswrapper. I don't think it affects ipw2200
[09:48] <[Wiebel] > mwe: what was it?
[09:48] <Gorlist> it runs Lightwave3d, which I never manged to do in Crossover or Wine :(
[09:48] <sethk> Nuked, yes
[09:48] <LGKeiz> Whats the url for cedega
[09:48] <Nuked> would you be able to assist me in creating such a system
[09:48] <mwe> [Wiebel] : like not being able to connect with ap_scan=1. didn't try 2.
[09:48] <Gorlist> www.transgaming.org i believe
[09:48] <djoker> hi @ all
[09:49] <zugu> LGKeiz http://www.transgaming.com/
[09:49] <alex-weej> Anyone know any USB DVB TV dongles that work nicely with Ubuntu?
[09:49] <[Wiebel] > mwe , try 2 :>
[09:49] <Nuked> even a point in the right direction is fine
[09:49] <Gorlist> Crossover do a free demo though?
[09:49] <mwe> [Wiebel] : yeah. I supposed it was like a boolean, 0 or 1. I guess not then
[09:50] <[Wiebel] > mwe nop
[09:50] <[Wiebel] > 0 is no scan
[09:50] <[Wiebel] > 1 is driver scan
[09:50] <dr_willis> alex-weej,  may want to check the mythtv channels/boards/forums for one that works in linux at all. :P
[09:50] <[Wiebel] > 2 is wpa_supplicant scan
[09:50] <mwe> oh
[09:50] <T_Montana> Hi
[09:50] <mwe> good to know
[09:50] <LGKeiz> It cost money?
[09:50] <zugu> hi T_Montana
[09:50] <alex-weej> dr_willis: is it really that hard!?
[09:50] <T_Montana> Can I get help with Ubuntu here?
[09:50] <ingram> yuo
[09:50] <ingram> yu
[09:50] <dapet> Experince with installing the netgear WG111v2 driver on ubuntu plz say so
[09:50] <ingram> yup
[09:50] <dr_willis> alex-weej,  it all depends on the chipset of the device.. it could be trivial.. or impossible
[09:50] <T_Montana> I'm trying to install it
[09:50] <alex-weej> T_Montana: you can ask a question... whether you'll get help or not who knows :P
[09:50] <zugu> T_Montana, don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[09:51] <LGKeiz> Why does it cost money >_>
[09:51] <T_Montana> I downloaded it, burend the .iso to a disk
[09:51] <T_Montana> Don't know what to do now
[09:51] <T_Montana> I reset my computer, nothing happened
[09:51] <dr_willis> T_Montana,  how did you burn it?
[09:51] <zugu> LGKeiz becuase this is why the developers ontend, to make money out of it
[09:51] <mwe> LGKeiz: because transgaming is a business
[09:51] <OneSeventeen> how do I do a simple find-and-replace on a folder?  I want to find "abc" and replace it with "cba"  on all ".tpl" files in the current directory
[09:51] <dr_willis> T_Montana,  check on the cd.. what files are on there?
[09:51] <T_Montana> 1sec
[09:51] <dapet> Experince with installing the netgear WG111v2 driver on ubuntu plz say so
[09:51] <LGKeiz> I don't have money :p
[09:51] <T_Montana> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386
[09:51] <T_Montana> just the .iso
[09:52] <Rondom> OneSeventeen: should be possible using sed
[09:52] <T_Montana> that's all
[09:52] <mwe> LGKeiz: my favorite games don't work in cedega or wine anyway
[09:52] <zugu> LGKeiz, then use wine and wait for further improvements, sorry
[09:52] <Rondom> dapet: there are two version of wg111v2
[09:52] <Nuked> damn, not one person out of the 849 that are here know how to customize a live cd?
[09:52] <OneSeventeen> Rondom: thanks, I'll man it
[09:52] <dr_willis> Nuked,  slax live cd makes it easy :P
[09:52] <T_Montana> The only thing on the burned CD is the .iso
[09:52] <zugu> Nuked, I don't think it's a simple task
[09:52] <djoker> i have a question on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/45162
[09:52] <Rondom> dapet: do you have the one with the ralink-chipset?
[09:52] <Nuked> dr_willis: have you done it before
[09:53] <Nuked> ?
[09:53] <dr_willis> T_Montana,  you burnt it toally wrong then. :P use a program like 'burn at once' (free) to burn the .iso
[09:53] <djoker> could somebody pls help me?
[09:53] <T_Montana> Ok thanks I'll Google that.
[09:53] <Nuked> djoker: whats up ill try
[09:53] <dapet> Random: ohhh... I have downloaded on .gz.tar file that I think is right, but there are some complikations, do you know how?
[09:53] <dr_willis> T_Montana,  ms decided that normal users dont need to burn iso's so they dont include a tool to do it.
[09:53] <T_Montana> I'll download 'burn at once'
[09:53] <LGKeiz> Then... where is the wine homepage :p
[09:53] <alex-weej> dr_willis: face it, if they DID include a tool to do it, they would get fined for antitrust.
[09:54] <dapet> Random: How Do I tjek that?
[09:54] <Rondom> dapet: do you know which chipset your adapter has?
[09:54] <zugu> LGKeiz winehq.com
[09:54] <LGKeiz> thanks
[09:54] <geos2> help! is anyone here running on a ThinkPad x60(s), i have a weird kernel? issue
[09:54] <mwe> LGKeiz: most games don't work in either of them though
[09:54] <T_Montana> There, got it :P
[09:54] <Nuked> dr_willis: have you used the slax live scripts before
[09:54] <zugu> LGKeiz, but you can install wine from the ubuntu repos, apt-get install wine
[09:54] <Nuked> ?
[09:54] <Rondom> dapet: under dapper, do a lsmod|grep rt to check it
[09:54] <dapet> dapper? the terminal?
[09:55] <Rondom> dapet: yes
[09:55] <dr_willis> Nuked,  i cheat and use that windows program/front end. :P whatver its called..
[09:55] <djoker> nuked: i made everythink like benc mentioned
[09:55] <Rondom> dapet: but only if you're using dapper
[09:55] <T_Montana> I'm a newb at Linux, is here a site for commands? Like to download programs etc.?
[09:55] <djoker> but default driver is always louded
[09:55] <T_Montana> there*
[09:56] <Nuked> dude, I just want to make an ubuntu live cd with the packages I need
[09:56] <dapet> Random: How do you make the line in the middle?
[09:56] <dr_willis> T_Montana,  google has several 100000+ linux tutorial sites.. but check the ubuntu site first.
[09:56] <Nuked> I tried http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[09:56] <zugu> T_Montana you can start with the official ubuntu guide https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.htmlH
[09:56] <T_Montana> Ok
[09:56] <zugu> T_Montana it's simple to understand and it requires just a little patience
[09:56] <mwe> !cli > T_Montana
[09:57] <Nuked> got pretty far, but changing the /etc/apt/sources.list =deat
[09:57] <T_Montana> Yes?
[09:57] <Nuked> and the files are immutable
[09:57] <dapet> Random: I got it... What do I have to look for?
[09:57] <xbehave> ive mounted a fat partition to /media/storage but i cant make folders or files on :(
[09:57] <ingram> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226703
[09:57] <LGKeiz> Why does Ubuntu lag on vmware, I have 1GB of RAM / nVidia G-force 6800 any idea?
[09:57] <LGKeiz> I gave it 800MB ram >.>
[09:58] <geos2> bug #53898
[09:58] <zugu> LGKeiz you also need processing power, and virtual machines are jnown to be slower
[09:58] <mwe> Nuked: use sudo or mount correctly
[09:58] <zugu> LGKeiz, *known
[09:58] <dapet> Random: are you there?
[09:58] <LGKeiz> I have a 2.49GHz - P4
[09:59] <zugu> LGKeiz, how slow is the vm ?
[09:59] <mwe> dapet: his nick is Rondom
[09:59] <dapet> uhhh he he thanks :D
[09:59] <geos2> 2D graphics on my x60s (i950) are painfully slow, typing in lagging...
[09:59] <T_Montana> anyone here know if i could fit a GeForce 7800 GTX into my laptop o.O
[09:59] <Stormx2> what app should I use to ssh to a remote server/
[09:59] <LGKeiz> like If I open multi stuff, like Firefox, Konversation, and skype it lags when you open things, also minimizing things are slow.
[09:59] <GTX> T_Montana, With brute force :p
[09:59] <dapet> Rondom: I don It what schall I look for?
[10:00] <T_Montana> lol
[10:00] <geos2> T_montana: first take out the motherboard...
[10:00] <mwe> geos2: it works great on my x40
[10:00] <detienn> I'm dual booting ubuntu and winxp. by default it will boot up ubuntu. How can I change that order so that it will boot up Winxp by default?
[10:00] <T_Montana> Yes
[10:00] <zugu> LGKeiz, don't know, but it might just be the way it is
[10:00] <geos2> mwe: yeah it was supposed to work on the x60 too... i'm painfully depressed about it.
[10:01] <T_Montana> good question detienn i'd like to know that too
[10:01] <sethk> Nuked, sorry, I was taking a phone call.   You had a question?
[10:01] <Dimitrije> Anyone know how to set header location for gcc? People from gcc channel won't or can't answer...
[10:01] <mwe> geos2: maybe you xorg.conf needs to be tweaked
[10:01] <Stormx2> What is a good SSH client?
[10:01] <LGKeiz> One more question, could anyone help me compile/install realvnc, It saids Im missing libs ( I'm new too *nix )
[10:01] <geos2> mwe: any suggestions?
[10:02] <Rondom> dapet: did this return any results?
[10:02] <geos2> mwe: DRI is functioning by the by...
[10:02] <mwe> geos2: you can paste the file at paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I can see if I can spot anything
[10:02] <sethk> LGKeiz, install using synaptic, no need to compile
[10:02] <Rondom> dapet: if yes you've got the realtek-chipset
[10:02] <dapet> Rondom: yes, around 15 lines
[10:02] <duelboot> detienn, T_Montana need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:02] <LGKeiz> sethk o.o
[10:02] <Bohdi> anyone know if I can somehow get the same desktop with vnc as I get when I work locally on the computer?
[10:02] <mwe> geos2: oh
[10:02] <LGKeiz> sethk any guide to that?
[10:02] <Stormx2> What is a good SSH client?
[10:02] <Rondom> dapet: paste them on http://ubuntu.pastebin.com, only to make sure
[10:02] <mwe> geos2: glxinfo|grep direct confirms that?
[10:03] <mwe> Stormx2: ssh
[10:03] <sethk> LGKeiz, just run synaptic, use the search function, type in vnc.  It will show you the available vnc packages
[10:03] <LGKeiz> oh
[10:03] <LGKeiz> lol
[10:03] <dr_willis> Bohdi,   you can start up gnome or kde, and have them share the current desktop.. but i find that MUCH slower then having a  'hidden' vnc session going.
[10:03] <geos2> mwe: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20050225
[10:03] <LGKeiz> Thanks, Im updating atm, so I'll do it in a second.
[10:03] <axisys_> i cant run cnn video.. what pkg should i uninstall and reinstall?
[10:03] <LGKeiz> 64MB of updates
[10:03] <dapet> Rondom: Okay... http://pastebin.ca/109016
[10:04] <axisys_> i remeber it was some firefox plugin .. but cant remember
[10:04] <mwe> geos2: yes. looks good. I suppose it spits "direct rendering: Yes" as well?
[10:04] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:04] <geos2> mwe: rumour is that taking out random modules can help...
[10:04] <zugu> Stormx2 install openssh-client
[10:04] <joachim-n> search in nautilus is broken :(
[10:04] <geos2> mwe: yeah...
[10:04] <mwe> geos2: paster your xorg.conf file and I'll look if you want me to
[10:04] <T_Montana> There we go
[10:04] <djoker> will the single files in /modprobe.d auto loaded?
[10:04] <T_Montana> Ubuntu is burning with burntatonce
[10:04] <T_Montana> Perfect..
[10:04] <detien> sorry, someone was saying something about grub menu. I got disconnected,  please say that again
[10:04] <geos2> mwe: i don't feel like DRI should affect 2D graphics anyway... it seems to be a kernel issue, 23 works 26 sucks
[10:05] <ingram> h3lp me!
[10:05] <Rondom> dapet: ubuntu already provides drivers for your card and they are already loaded
[10:05] <dr_willis> !ask
[10:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:05] <djoker> me too! :)
[10:05] <ingram> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226703
[10:05] <mwe> dj_baggio: files in /etc/modprobe.d/ all work like the single file /etc/modprobe
[10:05] <zugu> ingram, please state the nature of the medical emergency
[10:05] <Rondom> dapet: paste the output of iwconfig to see if everything is ok
[10:05] <mwe> geos2: I see
[10:05] <T_Montana> Lol zugu
[10:05] <zugu> :)
[10:06] <mwe> geos2: maybe you can lsmod in the old kernel and compare with lsmod from the new one
[10:06] <ingram> how do i remove these FKING ntfs disks from Places->Computer
[10:06] <axisys_> what plugin pkg of forefox do i need to reinstall for cnn video to work?
[10:06] <dapet> Rondom: http://pastebin.ca/109020
[10:06] <stfuah> are there any common networking issues with ubuntu? I just installed (new to linux) and after going through my network settings for both wireless and eth, I can't seem to get a connection.
[10:06] <Vladaz> hello
[10:06] <mwe> ingram: manually commenting them in /etc/fstab should work
[10:06] <Vladaz> i have problems with installing java into firefox
[10:07] <ingram> FSTAB lines are removed
[10:07] <duelboot> mwe, here we go again....ingram did that already
[10:07] <Vladaz> I did lots of stuff and neither helps me
[10:07] <mwe> Vladaz: custom firefox?
[10:07] <djoker> what is the correct command to change the acx firmware version?? for a file in /modprobe.d
[10:07] <Vladaz> firefox was preinstalled with new install of ubuntu
[10:07] <mwe> duelboot: oh
[10:07] <duelboot> who was asking about rw to FAT disk?
[10:07] <Intangir> ingram: why do you want to remove them anyway?
[10:07] <mwe> Vladaz: yes and you didn't manually install another version?
[10:07] <Intangir> are they even mounted?
[10:07] <ingram> cuz they are useless
[10:08] <Vladaz> of firefox?
[10:08] <Vladaz> no
[10:08] <mwe> Vladaz: did you install sun-jre?
[10:08] <Intangir> so is that whole place->computer
[10:08] <somethingelse> Vladaz...you from Workbrain?
[10:08] <Intangir> i never access any devices from there anyway
[10:08] <Rondom> dapet: do a iwlist wlan0 scan to make sure it finds a network
[10:08] <duelboot> ingram, you can use ntfs-3g to rw to ntfs partitions/disks
[10:08] <Vladaz> maybe I have updates, but they were done by Ubuntu
[10:08] <Vladaz> what is Workbrain?
[10:08] <mwe> Vladaz: did you install sun-jre?
[10:08] <duelboot> ingram, then they won't be useless :)
[10:08] <mwe> Vladaz: did you install sun-jre?
[10:08] <ingram> but i have tried that
[10:08] <somethingelse> nm, wrong Vladas :)
[10:08] <Vladaz> i guess
[10:08] <T_Montana> Guys, do games like Counterstrike or Guild Wars work on Linux?
[10:08] <geos2> mwe:  i just sent the new kernel
[10:08] <Vladaz> couse i remember i was installing something sun java
[10:08] <ingram> then only mounted one disk
[10:08] <Intangir> counterstrike does
[10:08] <Intangir> i dont know about guildwars
[10:08] <mwe> Vladaz: guess?
[10:08] <ingram> but second was giving error
[10:08] <T_Montana> Thank god, lol
[10:08] <mwe> geos2: ?
[10:09] <zugu> T_Montana, counterstrike works with wine, dunno about gw
[10:09] <Vladaz> i guess i've installed something of sun java
[10:09] <geos2> mwe:??
[10:09] <Vladaz> i think yeah i did
[10:09] <T_Montana> Think I'd have to re-install CS?
[10:09] <Vladaz> :)
[10:09] <bruenig> is there a way to turn off the little help popups that come up everytime you drag your mouse over something?
[10:09] <mwe> Vladaz: dpkg -l|grep sun-java
[10:09] <T_Montana> I have it on my windows XP
[10:09] <dapet> Rondom: http://pastebin.ca/109023
[10:09] <Intangir> T_Montana: it is running thru steam? probably
[10:09] <zugu> T_Montana, try searching appdb.winehq.com for software that runs under wine
[10:09] <mwe> Vladaz: type that in a terminal
[10:09] <T_Montana> Yes
[10:09] <geos2> mwe: i just sent the lsmod output from 2.6.15-26 686
[10:09] <T_Montana> I'll redownload steam
[10:09] <mwe> geos2: to where?
[10:09] <duelboot> bruenig, presume you're using KDE?
[10:09] <Vladaz> couse in System>Preferences there is something about sun java
[10:09] <T_Montana> But I don't know if I'd have to re-install like 1GB of stuff
[10:09] <ras> what device are  USB drives connected to in /dev/? because I have one and cant mount it
[10:09] <somethingelse> guys, got a question about internet connection sharing...i can't get it to work with Ubuntu as the server for some reason.  can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[10:09] <geos2> at the link you mentioned...
[10:10] <mwe> geos2: you should paste the url here then
[10:10] <bruenig> duelboot, no, I know how to do it in KDE but not GNOME (if there is a way)
[10:10] <T_Montana> Going to reset computer now, Ubuntu is done burning
[10:10] <zugu> ras, usually /dev/sda
[10:10] <Intangir> T_Montana: just do the reinstall, then copy your old stuff over, or maybe just backup the important registry entries and fix them for wine and put them in wine
[10:10] <scrappy_> ras: ls -t /dev/ | head you should see like sda1 or something
[10:10] <duelboot> bruenig, didn't know it did it in Gnome
[10:10] <Intangir> you might not have to reinstall
[10:10] <Vladaz> vladas@vladas-desktop:~$ dpkg -l|grep sun-java
[10:10] <Vladaz> ii  sun-java5-bin                          1.5.0-06-1  Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[10:10] <Vladaz> ii  sun-java5-jre                          1.5.0-06-1  Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[10:10] <Intangir> but reinstalling is probably simpliest
[10:10] <T_Montana> ok
[10:10] <somethingelse> ip forward is enabled, i can ping both systems both ways, but the client can't get out to the net...any ideas?
[10:10] <mwe> geos2: but I wanted you to compare it to the output from -23
[10:10] <Intangir> but could take longer
[10:10] <Vladaz> here's what i get
[10:10] <dr_willis> Steam - the reason i gave up on Halflife :)
[10:10] <detien> when I first installed Ubuntu, on the boot menu it has :Ubuntu, Ubuntu safe mode or something, Windows XP. Now after I installed update for Ubuntu. It has 2 ubuntu and 2 ubuntu safe mode. HOw do I remove 1 of them?
[10:10] <mwe> Vladaz: good
[10:10] <duelboot> bruenig, r u talking about the icons on the panel?
[10:10] <geos2> mwe: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:10] <bruenig> duelboot, they are not ridiculously large like KDE so they aren't as annoying but given the options I would like to take them off
[10:11] <mwe> Vladaz: now what if you type about:plugins in the address field in FF does it show java?
[10:11] <Rondom> dapet: well, scanning works
[10:11] <Intangir> detien: goto /boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:11] <dr_willis> Guildwars works 'ok' with cedega.. but looks better under windows (sadly) for me.
[10:11] <scrappy_> detien: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:11] <Rondom> dapet: you can now try to connect :-)
[10:11] <geos2> mwe: yeah ok sorry... be back in a bit
[10:11] <Intangir> detien: edit it with gedit or something and take out the unneeded entries
[10:11] <duelboot> bruenig, if so right click on it...properties...remove info in generic name and comment areas
[10:11] <bruenig> duelboot, yeah drag your mouse over anything on the gui and something popups, be it workspace menu entries etc
[10:11] <mwe> geos2: no the complete url like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46757 or something
[10:11] <Vladaz> no
[10:11] <dapet> Rondom: okay?! he he cya
[10:11] <Vladaz> it doesn't show
[10:11] <scrappy_> detien: er.. gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:11] <bruenig> duelboot, alright, I think I got it
[10:11] <bruenig> thanks
[10:12] <duelboot> bruenig, yw
[10:12] <Rondom> dapet: try first, we don't know if there's a bug in the driver, you never know!
[10:12] <Nuked> Nuked: use sudo or mount correctly? I thought I did
[10:12] <Rondom> dapet: murphy's law, you know
[10:12] <frosty_badfish> anyone used tvtime before?
[10:13] <mwe> Vladaz: ok you need to create a symlink then
[10:13] <Vladaz> how?
[10:13] <detien> scrappy_, Intangir, thanks
[10:13] <mirak> hi
[10:14] <somethingelse> guys, got a question about internet connection sharing...i can't get it to work with Ubuntu as the server for some reason.  can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[10:14] <mwe> Vladaz: first tell me if ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ show anything regarding java
[10:14] <Haiku> there is no "mail" on ubuntu ?
[10:14] <mwe> Haiku: huh?
[10:14] <tengil> before when i right clicked in a gnome-terminal i got a menu where i could for example show and hide the menubar. this menu doesnt show up anymore. any ideas why?
[10:14] <Dimar> Hey all :)
[10:14] <Haiku> I making a script to e mail me my ip adress, but "mail: command not found" ?
[10:14] <mirak> I asked for support everywhere, I installed last pammount version for tarball, and now I can't login, I can't find what's wrong or how to fix it
[10:14] <mwe> Haiku: install mailx
[10:14] <Haiku> mailx ?
[10:15] <Vladaz> vladas@vladas-desktop:~$ ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[10:15] <Vladaz> libunixprintplugin.so
[10:15] <Vladaz> that's what i get?
[10:15] <mwe> Haiku: yes
[10:15] <mwe> Haiku: it provides the mail command
[10:15] <salah> hi. is there any tools for adding music to iPod?
[10:15] <zugu> salah, install gtkpod
[10:15] <Haiku> mwe: ok thanks
[10:15] <Haiku> mwe: i'll try that
[10:15] <duelboot> salah, yeah iTunes :)
[10:15] <ardchoille> tengil: All the options that were in that menu are also in the menus at the top of gnome-terminal
[10:15] <zugu> duelboot :)
[10:15] <mwe> Vladaz: ok
[10:16] <mirak> I asked for support everywhere, I installed last pammount version from tarball, and now I can't login, I can't find what's wrong or how to fix it
[10:16] <dapet_> Ronrom: It did not work
[10:16] <dapet_> rondom: It did not work
[10:16] <mwe> Vladaz: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/. then the ls command again
[10:16] <salah> duelboot, sorry for my language, but I hate the iTunes more than anything ever, stupid programmers made a non-usable application. Even Microsoft make excellent applications compared to Apple
[10:16] <dapet_> Rondom: It did not work (now I got it right)
[10:16] <tengil> ardchoille: i usually hide the top menubar. the problem is i have that as default and now i cant get the menubar back
[10:16] <tengil> not can i do any of the ch anges in the menu
[10:16] <mwe> Vladaz: no . at the en of the ln command
[10:16] <zugu> salah, you should see quick time ;)
[10:17] <Rondom> dapet_, dapet: does it work now, or not?
[10:17] <Nuked> mwe http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[10:17] <jrib> tengil: ctrl-f10 or right click > edit profile
[10:17] <tengil> actually now gnome-terminal had a crash and all my terminals died. when opening a new one it works
[10:17] <ardchoille> tengil: That's messed up.. and I don't see an accelorator for it either
[10:17] <Vladaz> vladas@vladas-desktop:~$ ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[10:17] <Vladaz> libjavaplugin_oji.so  libunixprintplugin.so
[10:17] <Vladaz> is that ok?
[10:17] <tengil> jrib: the problem was that right click didnt work
[10:17] <dapet_> Rondom: It does not work
[10:17] <mwe> Vladaz: good. now restart firefox and load a java page to test
[10:18] <nikin> anyone experience with any kind of pen table under linux?
[10:18] <dapet_> Rondom: If I trie to connect trugh Administratio>Network
[10:18] <jrib> tengil: how about ctrl-f10?
[10:18] <duelboot> salah, when I plug my iPod in Linux Rhythm Box Music Player pops up, but I haven't messed with it enough to know if it'll work
[10:18] <salah> zugu, have you ever tried windows media player? it's much better than quick time
[10:18] <nikin> preferably under ubuntu
[10:18] <Rondom> dapet_: do you use any encryption?
[10:18] <tengil> jrib: didnt work. but i guess this was some malfunctioning in my gnome-terminal since shortly thereafter it crashed completely
[10:18] <mwe> Vladaz: type about:config as well and look for java
[10:18] <ardchoille> tengil: You can launch it with gnome-terminal --show-menubar
[10:18] <salah> duelboot, you can play and view songs with Rythmbox, but not add or edit songs
[10:18] <mwe> Vladaz: about:plugins that is
[10:18] <mwe> Vladaz: not about:config
[10:18] <duelboot> salah, can't help
[10:18] <dapet_> rondom: I am new to this so I don't know... But there is a key on the wireless network if it is that you are asking about?
[10:18] <tengil> thanks for the help. and now it works
[10:19] <Jerr> !tell me about nvidia
[10:19] <zugu> salah, i was joking, i don't like quicktime, realplayer or windows media player; acutally, back in the old winxp days i used bsplayer
[10:19] <cabuloso> how do i play RMVB movies ?
[10:19] <ras> when I did lsusb i got "Bus 005 Device 007: ID 0457:0151 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Super Flash 1GB Flash Drive"  but i cant figure out what device it is on so I can mount it, /dev/sda1..5 doesnt work
[10:19] <zugu> cabuloso, use realplayer
[10:19] <geos2> mwe: there doesn't appear to be any difference except the modules are in different order (and the 23 kernel has a different entry for cpu_frequency userspace
[10:19] <duelboot> just what kind of name is zugu anyway?
[10:19] <detienn> everytime I start up my computer, I have to do these command to get online "ifconfig eht0 192.168.1.101" and "route add default gw 192.168.1.1" how do it make it permanent so I don't have to type those command everytime?
[10:19] <tengil> how do i add a script again to bootup?
[10:20] <Vladaz> ok thanks it works:)
[10:20] <mwe> geos2: hmm. odd.
[10:20] <cabuloso> is there any other way to do it ? i don't like realplayer...
[10:20] <Vladaz> and do you know how can i set splash screens?
[10:20] <dr_willis> tengil,  /etc/rc.local perhaps - is one way
[10:20] <salah> zugu, yeah.. free software does a better and safer job than software that costs.. I am very mad because I lost all of my music on my iPod (984 songs) because of iTunes
[10:20] <mwe> Vladaz: good. about:plugins confirms it's installed as well?
[10:20] <geos2> yeah, 2D graphics are really realy slow, even stranger typing lags in gnome but doesn't in KDE
[10:20] <tengil> dr_willis: yeah but i mean if i made a new script. isnt it something rc-update or something?
[10:20] <zugu> duelboot, it comes from zugurudumba, which actually means nothing, it's just a bunch of souns; i like how it sounds though
[10:20] <Vladaz> yep, it confirms
[10:21] <duelboot> zugu, funny and interesting all at the same time
[10:21] <mwe> Vladaz: great
[10:21] <Vladaz> ok thanks for help
[10:21] <Vladaz> bye:)
[10:21] <zugu> duelboot :)
[10:21] <dapet_> Rondom: I am new to this so I don't know... But there is a key on the wireless network if it is that you are asking about?
[10:21] <ras> when I did lsusb i got "Bus 005 Device 007: ID 0457:0151 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Super Flash 1GB Flash Drive"  but i cant figure out what device it is on so I can mount it, /dev/sda1..5 doesnt work
[10:21] <cabuloso> how do i play RMVB movies without using realplayer ?
[10:21] <dr_willis> tengil,  ya can always make a script and put it in the init.d stuff.
[10:21] <ingram> is that possible i can mount two disks with ntfs-3g?
[10:21] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does anyone get their internet through AT&T Yahoo?
[10:21] <zugu> cabuloso, maybe hekix player
[10:22] <duelboot> is there a dr in the house (ummm chat room)?
[10:22] <zugu> cabuloso, don't know for sure; helix is an opes source project sponsored by real networks
[10:22] <cabuloso> zugu, thanks
[10:22] <ingram> !ask
[10:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:22] <geos2> mwe:  i've filed a bug #53898 but there hasn't been any response... e1000 is weird as is SATA, so it's not surprising there are problems
[10:22] <Rondom> dapet: yes, that's what I meant. There's wep and wpa, do you know what you use (check your access-pint)
[10:22] <ingram> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226703
[10:22] <ingram> oops
[10:22] <ingram> is that possible i can mount two disks with ntfs-3g?
[10:22] <tengil> dr_willis: so i can just put my rc.firewall in /etc/init.d/ and it will run?
[10:22] <zugu> cabuloso, but rmvb is a proprietary format, so it might not be playable under helix
[10:23] <geos2> but, it seemed like things have worked for other people, at least for laptop testing...
[10:23] <duelboot> ingram, yes, you can mount as many as you want (I think)
[10:23] <duelboot> I only have a need to mount one, but don't see anything that would stop someone from doing two....anyone know for sure?
[10:23] <ingram> duelboot, i was getting error with that
[10:23] <ingram> it said /dev/fuse is already mounted
[10:23] <mirak> kimo: I found the problem, / was 700 mode
[10:24] <mirak> kimo: rwx------
[10:24] <mirak> rofl
[10:24] <duelboot> ingram, ahhhhh
[10:24] <dapet_> Rondom: I am new to this so I don't know... But there is a key on the wireless network if it is that you are asking about?
[10:24] <ingram> i say, these disks are very useless :S
[10:25] <simonvc> Hi, How do i install the kernel headers with apt-get? im running 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT  (dapper)
[10:25] <crimsun> simonvc: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:25] <duelboot> ingram, format the second one with ext3 or some other format and then just mount it normally
[10:25] <dr_willis> tengil,  ya should read uo on the SysV init system. each rc.d# level has links to the scripts in  init.d   that dictate when it starts/stops
[10:25] <ingram> duelboot, i cant do that
[10:25] <duelboot> ? ingram
[10:25] <ingram> these are containing important documents and pictures
[10:26] <zazeem> how can remove admin  only perms to specific folders in my home directory? is there a command to make it so i can drag and drop without using mv? i have to add 184 files to it that would take eons
[10:26] <ingram> and windows
[10:26] <simonvc> Crimsun, That did it. Muchos Gracious
[10:26] <duelboot> ingram, move them to the other disk first, then reformat
[10:26] <ingram> no disk space
[10:26] <mwe> geos2: yeah. I guess stick with -23 for now then
[10:26] <Rondom> dapet: do you use wep or wpa? do you know that? check your access-pint
[10:26] <salah> zugu, wow, gtkpod is NICE! does its job fast and safe!
[10:26] <ingram> there is nothing to format
[10:26] <Rondom> dapet_:
[10:26] <zugu> salah, i'm glad it worked, anyway, thank to the developers :)
[10:27] <salah> zugu, yes.. thanks :)
[10:27] <dapet_> Rondom: yes
[10:27] <geos2> mwe: unfortunately, -26 fixes alot of other problems... my next thing is to try compiling 2.6.17, but i'm not hopeful
[10:27] <duelboot> ingram, important info on both? and no room on both?
[10:27] <zazeem> how can remove admin  only perms to specific folders in my home directory? is there a command to make it so i can drag and drop without using mv? i have to add 184 files to it that would take eons
[10:27] <zazeem> can some anser me :|
[10:27] <zazeem> w*
[10:27] <zugu> !patience
[10:27] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:27] <mwe> geos2: Personally I always use custom kernels
[10:28] <mwe> geos2: you can use the ubuntu config as base for configuring your new kernel
[10:28] <jrib> zazeem: your HOME should be owned by your user, are there directories in your user's HOME that are owned by root?
[10:28] <geos2> mwe: i used to back in the day, i started to a couple of days ago, but i got alot of module missing errors, suggestion?
[10:28] <ingram> yup, one is 77gb and free space is only 11gb also the other one is 33gb and free space is 11gb
[10:28] <mwe> geos2: yes
[10:28] <duelboot> ingram, buy a larger drive...
[10:28] <zazeem> jrib: i installed ut 2004 game into files directory in my home, and i installed it as root, how can i remove those perms?
[10:29] <ingram> this is not my computer
[10:29] <mwe> geos2: use the config file from you current ubuntu kernel. copy it to .config in the new kernel tree and make oldconfig
[10:29] <dr_willis_> zazeem,  as root - change the permissions so they are owned by the user.
[10:29] <duelboot> zugu, thx for the suggestion to salah...now I have it as well
[10:29] <zazeem> dr_willis_: how?
[10:29] <dapet_> Rondom: are you there
[10:29] <ailean> I'm trying to install the nVidia drivers but keep getting errors on startup. Im changing my xorg.conf  from "nv" to "nvidia" and have installed the program straight from nvidia.com. what could I be doing wrong?
[10:29] <duelboot> ingram, sorry can't help you then
[10:29] <zugu> duelboot, you're welcome
[10:30] <dr_willis_> zazeem,  chmod -R username.username directory
[10:30] <goudkov> hi guys, is there any lightweight app that could be used to display popup notifications of certain events in a calendar? i need something like korganizer but lightweight, with just a function of an alarm.
[10:30] <mwe> geos2: then if you get it to work you can go on to tweaking menuconfig
[10:30] <ingram> but is it hard to remove icons from Places -> computer?
[10:30] <duelboot> oh, ingram there's ntfsmount, but don't know much about it...maybe that can help you as well
[10:30] <zazeem> dr_willis_: thnx
[10:30] <Rondom> dapet_: WHAT do you use? wpa or wep!
[10:30] <Rondom> ?
[10:30] <geos2> geos2:  i'll try that, thanks for advice... won't i have to get all of the patches for the ubuntu kernel, if i start from kernel.org?
[10:30] <Amaranth> goudkov: i'm guessing kalarm exists
[10:30] <dr_willis_> zazeem,  it pays to read a few shell tutorials.  :P
[10:30] <zugu> ailean, maybe you should have installed the driver in the repos, installing from nvidia is more ... complex
[10:30] <ardchoille> zazeem: sudo chown -R user:user /path/folder
[10:30] <dapet_> Rondom: How do I see that (I don't know)
[10:31] <duelboot> zugu, trying it now...wish me luck
[10:31] <dr_willis_> zazeem,  yea his command is better. :P user = 'your user name'
[10:31] <goudkov> Amaranth: do you know if something like that but gtk-based exists?
[10:31] <mwe> geos2: I don't use any ubuntu patches. unless you specifically need a patch I wouldn't bother
[10:31] <ailean> zugu, is the driver in the repos as good? I seem to remember doing it last year and it was pathetic
[10:31] <Amaranth> goudkov: evolution will do it
[10:31] <duelboot> zugu, mess with gtkpod much?
[10:31] <goudkov> Amaranth: can i just use the alarm but not email?
[10:31] <zazeem> thnx
[10:31] <duelboot> or did you just google it...lol
[10:31] <Amaranth> goudkov: and there is a lightweight app that can read the alarm things from evolution's data but i can't remember the name
[10:32] <goudkov> Amaranth: that would be what i'm looking for
[10:32] <zugu> ailean, i'm talking about the nvidia driver, not the community made driver; it's in the repos and it works just fine; anyway, there might be a guide for installing drivers from nvidia, let me find it
[10:32] <geos2> mwe: thanks... i'll probably be back in a couple of days... crying.
[10:32] <stalefries> Can someone tell me how to prevent numlock from coming on at boot?
[10:32] <duelboot> stalefries, most of us want to enable it...lol
[10:33] <duelboot> stalefries, there's an option for it...I'll look, but it'll take time...anyone else know?
[10:33] <stalefries> Duelboot: yeah, but it's not of much use to me, actually, it messes it up when I type my username and password
[10:33] <Amaranth> goudkov: maybe it doesn't exist
[10:33] <goudkov> Amaranth: lol. ok thanks
[10:33] <stalefries> duelboot: thanks
[10:34] <ailean> zugu, what are the names of the nvidia driver and the community made driver so i know?
[10:34] <TheGateKeeper> stalefries: keyboard in your settings section (at least in KDE)
[10:34] <ailean> zugu, and now that i've installed the driver from nvidia.com, can i remove it?
[10:34] <zugu> ailean, this thread might help you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[10:34] <Rondom> dapet_: You have to know these details encryption-mode and key in order to connect to a wireless network
[10:34] <ailean> zugu, ta
[10:35] <Amaranth> goudkov: /usr/lib/evolution/2.8/evolution-alarm-notify might work
[10:35] <Amaranth> goudkov: try it
[10:35] <stalefries> TheGateKeeper; I'll try it
[10:35] <Rondom> dapet_: is any other computer connected to the same wireless-network?
[10:35] <duelboot> anybody remember the command line for the config editor?  you know the one that used to be on the menu, but was taken away?
[10:35] <goudkov> Amaranth: thanks
[10:35] <zugu> ailean, afaik, the closed source driver is "nvidia" and the community one is "nv"
[10:35] <dapet_> rondom: Okay... yes my laptop
[10:35] <npster>  HOW DO I CREATE A ADSL CONNECTION ???
[10:35] <Rondom> dapet_: are you able to look at the config of the access-point
[10:35] <Rondom> dapet_: you can check there
[10:35] <zugu> ailean, don't know if you can remove it
[10:35] <duelboot> found it, nvm
[10:35] <Amaranth> goudkov: for me it stays running after i close evolution
[10:35] <Amaranth> !ppp
[10:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ppp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:35] <ailean> k thanks zugu
[10:35] <Amaranth> !pppoe
[10:35] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[10:35] <Amaranth> npster: ^
[10:35] <goudkov> Amaranth: i don't want to create an email account in evolution. i'm using thunderbird
[10:35] <dapet_> Rondom: It is WPA
[10:35] <npster> Amaranth: yes
[10:36] <Amaranth> npster: And please don't yell
[10:36] <ailean> urm, zugu, do you mean nvidia-glx then?
[10:36] <Amaranth> goudkov: just fill it in anyway
[10:36] <npster> Amaranth: ok
[10:36] <serg284> hi all. iv just downloaded a ".package" file. how do i install this ?
[10:36] <stalefries> TheGateKeeper: no luck
[10:36] <Amaranth> goudkov: tell it no incoming server and use sendmail for outgoing
[10:36] <zugu> ailean, yes, that is the package, but when refering to it in the /ect/X11/xorg.conf file, "nvidia" is used
[10:36] <ailean> k, thanks a lot zugu
[10:36] <stalefries> serg284: you need autopackage, that's all I know
[10:37] <goudkov> Amaranth: ok
[10:37] <zugu> ailean, what chipset does your video card has?
[10:37] <serg284> stale. thanks !!!
[10:37] <ailean> zugu i don't know what you mean by that :$
[10:37] <zugu> ailean, because if you have an loder card, you might need to install the nvidia-glx-legacy package
[10:37] <ailean> zugu no, it's ok
[10:37] <Rodietze> hey why can't I install Aptana on UBuntu Breezy?
[10:37] <TheGateKeeper> stalefries: interesting, had to go there to turn mine on, I am using KDE rather than gnome so don't know if that makes any difference
[10:38] <ailean> zugu i checked that already :)
[10:38] <Rondom> !wpa > dapet
[10:38] <zugu> ailean, ok
[10:38] <ailean> zugu, thanks
[10:38] <Rodietze> I've installed swt3.1 mozilla*..... everything I did the export stuff
[10:38] <Rondom> !wpa > dapet_
[10:38] <zugu> ailean, ur welcome
[10:38] <dapet_> Rondom: yes it is WPA
[10:38] <stalefries> TheGateKeeper; it's at boot time, so KDE nor Gnome make a difference here
[10:39] <zugu> Rodietze, i'm a little bit offtopic, but is aptana wyswyg ?
[10:39] <yggdrasil> hello, getting error 17 after installation of dapper on sata raid . can somone help me ?
[10:39] <Rodietze> zugu: yes
[10:39] <Rondom> dapet_: read this
[10:39] <Rodietze> zugu aptana www.aptana.com
[10:39] <Rondom> !wpa
[10:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:40] <dapet_> Rondom: Schall I write it in the terminal?
[10:40] <Rondom> dapet_: ???
[10:40] <zugu> Rodietze, it's courious, cause people on digg were saying that it's just a text editor with syntax recognition
[10:40] <Rondom> !tell dapet_ about wpa
[10:40] <FiberOptics> Hi.
[10:40] <zugu> Rodietze, no preview, like in dreamweaver
[10:40] <Rondom> uboto should have sent you a link to a howto
[10:40] <Rodietze> zugu lol, no it is the best editor I've seen for linux to webdevelopment
[10:41] <Rondom> dapet_: uboto should have sent you a link to a howto
[10:41] <Rodietze> zugu it has preview
[10:41] <duelboot> stalefries, did you solve it yet?
[10:41] <dapet_> Rondom: ahhh down there, I relly are a noob he he
[10:41] <stalefries> not yet
[10:41] <Rodietze> Quanta and Aptana
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> stalefries: numlockx installed?
[10:41] <zugu> Rodietze, it's not like i code in binary, directly into ram, using magnets :))
[10:41] <stalefries> I'll check
[10:41] <stalefries> TheGateKeeper: yes
[10:42] <yggdrasil> zugu i do
[10:42] <yggdrasil> hello, getting error 17 after installation of dapper on sata raid . can somone help me ?
[10:42] <Rondom> read the WPA-howto
[10:42] <zugu> yggdrasil, kudos
[10:42] <zugu> :)))
[10:42] <duelboot> stalefries, sudo apt-get remove numlockx
[10:42] <stalefries> ok, I'll try it
[10:42] <TheGateKeeper> stalefries: possible cause: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/36867-suse-9-3-pro-numlock.html
[10:42] <stalefries> Although, i think the problem has existed since I first installed Dapper
[10:42] <matsur> Hi, sound spontaneously stopped working for me. One minute I was playing something in amarok and the next my computer went mute. restart didnt clear up the problem. any ideas?
[10:43] <zugu> Rodietze, is aptana in the repos? do i need eclipse for it in order to work?
[10:43] <tcarter> exit
[10:43] <duelboot> stalefries, the ubuntuforums site has info...read some there and see if it helps
[10:43] <tcarter> oops
[10:43] <tcarter> lol
[10:43] <Jerr> I'm not sure but I think I got nvidia drivers working
[10:43] <stalefries> duelboot: ok
[10:43] <Jerr> except ubuntu is on the wrong monitor
[10:43] <Jerr> how can I dualhead?
[10:43] <stalefries> TheGateKeeper: I'll check that link
[10:43] <wheels3572> Pecisk_, are you still around?
[10:43] <Bohdi> what is the packet manager called if I want to start it from a terminal?
[10:44] <duelboot> Jerr, don't know but I know how to duel(dual)boot...lol
[10:44] <bl3ssing> I hate ADEPT! :D .. hhehehehee... why this Adept's all the time coming with a READ-ONLY mode to me ... when I'm it's friend?
[10:44] <ardchoille> synaptic
[10:44] <npster> Jerr: switch the cables of the monitors
[10:44] <zugu> Bohdi, synaptic
[10:44] <Jerr> I can't do that
[10:44] <Jerr> one is analog and one is digital
[10:44] <pecisk> wheels3572: well, yes :)
[10:44] <pecisk> I am at home
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: not asking you for a password?
[10:44] <zugu> bl3ssing, you need to get closer with it :)
[10:44] <matsur> Jerr, lookup twinview
[10:44] <matsur> some detailed tutorials online
[10:45] <npster> Jerr: then take a vga adaptor
[10:45] <ardchoille> Bohdi: gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic
[10:45] <wheels3572> pecisk, ok :) lol I have another question gonna send you a URL to look at and tell me if I did this all correctly and if there is anything else I will need to do after words it will be coming in about 2mins if that
[10:45] <duelboot> zugu, gtkpod is working perfectly....you're the man/woman/alien/whatever  (pick one or two for that matter)  ;)
[10:45] <zugu> duelboot, it worked perfectly for me, and as far as i can tell, i feel no alien presence :)
[10:46] <duelboot> zugu, shame on you....the only reason I ever booted into windows was for iTunes...now I have NO REASON to use MS....crying tears of joy
[10:46] <ardchoille> duelboot: lol
[10:46] <matsur> any thoughts on how to trouble shoot my broken audio?
[10:46] <Storkme> !dmix
[10:46] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:46] <mnp> i want to run a script called fasterdapper, its a .sh file. how do i run it?
[10:47] <pecisk> wheels3572: sorry, didn't get you, tell me once more
[10:47] <duelboot> zugu, ardchoille now I have to change my name...no more dueling between Linux and Windows for me...:(((
[10:47] <pecisk> :)
[10:47] <dr_willis_> 'friends dont let friends use itunes'
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> zugu: get lots of aliens when you boot into windows :-)
[10:47] <mnp> !scripts
[10:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about scripts - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:47] <duelboot> oh I mean :)))
[10:47] <ardchoille> mnp: sh file.sh
[10:47] <zugu> TheGateKeeper: aliens attack!!!
[10:47] <dr_willis_> fasterdapper.sh - sounds scary
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> zugu: Ohhh yes!!!
[10:47] <zugu> TheGateKeeper: Windows is from venus, ubuntu is from mars
[10:48] <mnp> ardchoille: thanks
[10:48] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[10:49] <bl3ssing> zugu, this is all I want. But seems that this Adept's getting as far as possible of me. :D
[10:49] <wheels3572> pecisk, I have a url I want you to look at please.  Tell me if what I have and what I did is correct.  It's what I was told to do to get use of port 21 since it's already in use by my routers OS  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19332
[10:49] <brunoEE04> ol
[10:49] <brunoEE04> #ubuntu
[10:49] <TheGateKeeper> zugu: you own ubuntu, script kiddy owns windows
[10:49] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, asked me for a password ... got it right and ... the same read only mode. :(
[10:49] <zugu> TheGateKeeper: i'm just an average user, you know
[10:49] <brunoEE04> como faz para colocar no #ubuntu?
[10:49] <duelboot> mnp, you should be able to go the directory with the script and type ./<scriptname.sh>
[10:49] <bignose_> any vmware experts in da house ? i have server running on Dapper Drake, and freebsd running as a guest, but can't make bridged networking work.
[10:49] <duelboot> mnp, worse case put sudo in front
[10:50] <mnp> duelboot: sh filename.sh worked fine
[10:50] <zugu> !es
[10:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:50] <mnp> duelboot: what does the ./ do?
[10:50] <brunoEE04> please, i need some help about the kernels
[10:50] <ailean> zugu, thanks - i got SOMETHING installed anyway :)
[10:50] <duelboot> mnp, means execute from current directory or more precisely pwd
[10:50] <mnp> has anyone upgraded their kernels from 2.6.15? to 2.6.16, or .6.17?
[10:50] <dura> Does anyone here know anything about the webalizer package in apt?
[10:50] <dr_willis_> Linux FUNdamentals
[10:50] <zugu> or was it !pt ?
[10:50] <ardchoille> mnp: It executes, but you would need to u+x filename to do that
[10:50] <dura> Is it patched with the geolizer patch?
[10:50] <brunoEE04> can i compile an older kernel, like 2.4.32, for my ubuntu?
[10:51] <duelboot> ardchoille, true...lots of assumptions on my part
[10:51] <mnp> ardchoille: what is u+x?
[10:51] <dr_willis_> brunoEE04,  i doubt if it would work
[10:51] <bignose_> mnp: ./ isn't in your path by default. so ./ tells it to execute the script that resides in the current directory.
[10:51] <zugu> ailean, anything is easy to install on ubuntu
[10:51] <pecisk> wheels3572: whatching at that link right now
[10:51] <ardchoille> mnp: u+x = execute rights for user
[10:51] <x-spec-t> !permissions
[10:51] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:51] <mnp> bignose_: thanks!
[10:51] <wheels3572> pecisk, ok ty
[10:51] <ailean> zugu, yeah, I thought it was older than this
[10:51] <mnp> !prelink
[10:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about prelink - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:51] <void^> brunoEE04: 2.4 kernel might be a little difficult, many things like udev, fam, hald depend on 2.6 features
[10:52] <brunoEE04> i want learn module programming, but the 2.6 kernels is mad....
[10:52] <dr_willis_> brunoEE04,  and 2.4 is being phased out... so...  whats the point in starting there. :P
[10:53] <dr_willis_> brunoEE04,  could install a disrto that uses 2.4  like 'DSL'
[10:53] <brunoEE04> uhm...
[10:53] <yonasb> hi all, How do I change the label of my USB memory stick?
[10:53] <brunoEE04> ok
[10:53] <pecisk> wheels3572: why do you need 21 port open?
[10:53] <dr_willis_> brunoEE04,  best would be to elarn the 2.6 way.
[10:53] <zugu> yonasb, I need to know this too, it is constantly changing
[10:53] <wheels3572> pecisk, ftp server :)
[10:54] <brunoEE04> ok, i will try...   thanks :-)
[10:54] <yggdrasil> anyuoknoe know whats going on with booting dapper to sata drive ? im getting errorr 17
[10:54] <mwe> dsl is annoying. it's damn hard getting wpa to work with it and nobody seems to know how to do it in recent versions
[10:54] <gsuveg> anybody use crypto fs on pendrive ?
[10:54] <Storkme> how do i get dmix working with alsa? or tell if it's already installed?
[10:55] <bl3ssing> yonasb, right click on properties of the USB, than ... there's a RENAME ... so ... DO IT!
[10:56] <Jamaican> Hi all
[10:56] <Jamaican> I am trying my ubuntu live Cd
[10:56] <Jamaican> I was wondering any 1 here is a human being?
[10:56] <OrionUser> I am
[10:56] <Jamaican> cool
[10:56] <Jamaican> where u from
[10:56] <OrionUser> ya mon
[10:56] <duelboot> zugu is an alien Jamaican
[10:56] <OrionUser> springfield, mo
[10:56] <zugu> ya
[10:57] <Jamaican> haha yes indeed Iam jamaican
[10:57] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[10:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:57] <Jamaican> well this is fun
[10:57] <zugu> from outta space, you know
[10:57] <Jamaican> are all of u linux users
[10:57] <ras> Jamaican: In fact Im a Jamaican human
[10:57] <pecisk> wheels3572: hmmmm, but why then it is already occupied in your router? seems like not normal situation. Anyway, you have to follow instructions make forward as instructed
[10:57] <duelboot> no we're windows users Jamaican ...go to offtopic room
[10:57] <gsuveg> nobody use crypto fs ?
[10:57] <Jamaican> ne how bye
[10:58] <OrionUser> Anyway, back to the topic : I need help! I need to find a debian/ubuntu package "php5-ftp" and I can't find it anywhere - and i fear i will be stuck trying to compile a module for hours and end up breaking our existing setup
[10:58] <ras> Jamaican: yes we are all linux users too
[10:58] <ras> Guys be easy on the guy
[10:58] <duelboot> ras, he's gone
[10:58] <duelboot> ras, and he was offtopic
[10:58] <dr_willis_> !info php5-ftp
[10:58] <ubotu> Package php5-ftp does not exist in dapper
[10:58] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  the rename it is grayed
[10:58] <dr_willis_> :()
[10:59] <OrionUser> I noticed
[10:59] <dapet> Rondom: I had to reboot, but it did not help me, so what were the name of that page again?
[10:59] <OrionUser> So is there a black-market version floating around on a BBS somewhere?
[10:59] <OrionUser> !info php5-ftp
[10:59] <ubotu> Package php5-ftp does not exist in dapper
[10:59] <OrionUser> !php5-cli
[10:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about php5-cli - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:59] <zugu> OrionUser, do you need a precompiled binary?
[11:00] <rsync> what universe do i need to add to dapper to get mplayer?
[11:00] <rsync> anyone has a line?
[11:00] <OrionUser> If by precompiled binary you mean something real easy to run for someone who doesn't wanna break their existing php5 installation, then yes.
[11:00] <sethk> OrionUser, I find a phpgroupware-ftp, but not php5-ftp.  Are you sure that php5-ftp is available in the ubuntu repositories (not the debian repos)?
[11:00] <reech> quit
[11:00] <rsync> i see... there is a page.
[11:01] <OrionUser> No i'm not, but I know i'm getting this error (yes its off topic, but I asked them (#php) and they said it was a #debian question)
[11:01] <bl3ssing> you don't have admin rights ... try to change your status, yonasb.
[11:01] <OrionUser> Fatal error: Call to undefined function ftp_connect() in /var/www
[11:01] <sethk> OrionUser, or perhaps the name has changed to  phpgroupware-ftp?
[11:01] <jordan_> Hello
[11:01] <sethk> OrionUser, try installing phpgroupware-ftp.  It can't hurt.
[11:01] <OrionUser> I know what phpgroupware is
[11:01] <jordan_> How can i make 2 pcs share a connection thru Usb?
[11:01] <zugu> rsync, they are called repositories, you can find more info on how to enable them here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:01] <Storkme> how do i get dmix working with alsa? or tell if it's already installed?
[11:01] <OrionUser> its like an office/outlook package written in  php
[11:02] <ardchoille> !dmix
[11:02] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:02] <sethk> OrionUser, ok, but it's the only ubuntu package with php and ftp in it.
[11:02] <wheels3572> pecisk, I did that and it still coming up vxworks when I goto ftp and open
[11:02] <wheels3572> pecisk, it shouldn't
[11:02] <sethk> OrionUser, possibly it's available for debian but not ubuntu?
[11:02] <OrionUser> sethk: where is the ftp in it?
[11:02] <sethk> phpgroupware-ftp is the package name
[11:03] <OrionUser> ahh.. i feel slow
[11:03] <pecisk> wheels3572: then you should turn off that service on router
[11:03] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  thanks, i was trying it as a regular user. how do I change the permission?
[11:03] <wheels3572> ok
[11:03] <OrionUser> Oh god... It wants to install php4 on top of my php5 installation to supprot phpgroupware-ftp. no, no ,no this can't be good at all
[11:03] <Storkme> how do i get dmix working with alsa? or tell if it's already installed?
[11:03] <sethk> OrionUser, no, definitely not
[11:04] <zugu> !dmix
[11:04] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:04] <ardchoille> !dmix > Storkme
[11:04] <sethk> OrionUser, sounds like there isn't a ubuntu package for it.  (Or possibly that it is in a repository other than the standard ubuntu repositories)
[11:04] <jn-> hey sethk
[11:04] <sethk> jn-, hey.  get your time issue fixed?
[11:05] <jn-> nope i was hoping we can work on it, mind if i msg you?
[11:05] <OrionUser> well fudge
[11:05] <Storkme> yeah there's no actual instructions there ardchoille
[11:05] <ardchoille> Storkme: :(
[11:05] <sethk> jn-, you can msg, but it will be a few minutes before I can spend some time.  still working
[11:05] <jn-> ok thanks
[11:06] <OrionUser> Can someone just verify that apt-get install php5 includes ftp support, perhaps somebody here is running a lamp server and installed php using that command - they could run phpinfo and look for ftp support (not in registered streams, it would have its own section)
[11:06] <zugu> how do i change the ports the default bittorrent client in dapper is listening to?
[11:07] <zugu> cause the default ones are blacklisted on many trackers
[11:07] <zugu> got it working in bittornado /bittornado-gui, but i need the default client to work
[11:08] <rsync> hi , i have enabled universes in the sources.list , trying to install mplayer, but only kmplayer is available. and win32 codecs
[11:08] <rsync> help?
[11:08] <neutrinomass> The gnome logout screen belongs gnome-session right?
[11:08] <neutrinomass> rsync: IIRC mplayer is in multiverse ..
[11:08] <neutrinomass> !info mplayer
[11:08] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[11:09] <ardchoille> rsync: After you enabled universe, did you do:  sudo apt-get update  ?
[11:09] <ardchoille> rsync: mplayer is in multiverse. enable multiverse, then do: sudo apt-get update
[11:09] <Whyvas> rsync, the mplayer in there sucks
[11:10] <Whyvas> rsync, get automatix for dapper and use that.
[11:10] <neutrinomass> Whyvas: Using automatix is not recommended.
[11:10] <ardchoille> Whyvas: Please do not recommend automatix
[11:10] <neutrinomass> Whyvas: It has broken systems in the past and continues to do so.
[11:10] <erUSUL> !automatix
[11:10] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:10] <Whyvas> yeah yeah, OR you can use the crappy mplayer in the repos that supports 2 codecs
[11:10] <jn-> has anyone used transgaming? im wondering if i should even bother, or if im better off just running the game in windows
[11:11] <zoidberg> hey guys i need some help
[11:11] <Whyvas> i know you do
[11:11] <zugu> hey zoidberg
[11:11] <Storkme> how do i get dmix working?
[11:11] <zugu> omg
[11:11] <bthornton> Anyone know why I am still unable to play DVD videos in Ubuntu 6.06 even after installing the w32codecs packages (as per the "RestrictedFormats" section of the UbuntuWiki)?
[11:11] <zoidberg> does anyone know where i can download the pppoeconf package for powerpc?
[11:11] <rsync> Whyvas: ught
[11:11] <dr_willis_> bthornton,  because ya need the dvd decss stuff - not codecs :P i think
[11:11] <zugu> bthornton, try vlc player
[11:11] <dr_willis_> !dvd
[11:11] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:12] <avis> rsync you didn't use source-o-matic did you ?  i use the base sources.list and add on the extra special repos from ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic but beware if you use that you might miss a mirror unless you are sure everything is in order
[11:12] <avis> i add universe and multiverse for the default manually
[11:12] <bthornton> thanks y'all
[11:13] <neutrinomass> ( You can always add universe and multiverse from synaptic ..... just a thought )
[11:13] <bl3ssing> yonasb ... try with aptitude (sudo apptitude command in konsole)
[11:14] <zugu> yonasb,  no double p
[11:14] <limbi> hi, does anybody know how to setup dial in modem under ubuntu? is there something like pppeoconf for dial in modems?
[11:15] <zoidberg> how can i get pppeoconf for POWERPC?
[11:15] <zoidberg> ?
[11:15] <dr_willis_> !dialup
[11:15] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[11:15] <rsync> avis: i just have uncommented backports/restrictied multiverse
[11:15] <erUSUL> limbi: pppconfig
[11:15] <rsync> in sources.list file
[11:15] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  i taught aptitude is to install packages?
[11:15] <limbi> erusul: ah!! cool.
[11:15] <zoidberg> can anyone help me?
[11:15] <jn-> cedga costs money.. bo
[11:15] <jn-> boo
[11:16] <rsync> avis: and did the update
[11:16] <avis> rsync and ones that are not security or main that do not have universe or multiverse, add them both, if only one exists then the other.
[11:16] <avis> well it sounds like your missing a server
[11:16] <ailean> u know what, ubuntu is bloody good these days
[11:16] <zoidberg> can someone please help me...i dont know where to get pppeoconf for POWERPC?
[11:16] <zugu> ailean, it still gets better
[11:16] <avis> rsync try 'apt-cache search program' to see if that comes up with anything
[11:16] <tulio> !samba
[11:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:16] <ardchoille> zoidberg: I think if anyone knew, they would have responded by now
[11:16] <avis> rsync do that after a repo update
[11:16] <ailean> zugu, well it has to get better in terms of EASE of use, but it can do everything windows or apple can
[11:17] <avis> if you can't find it its not in your sources.list
[11:17] <tulio> wich are the repos for samba??
[11:17] <zoidberg> is ther a powerpc or ubuntu on mac IRC channel?
[11:17] <jn-> anyone use cedega?
[11:17] <bit0> hi
[11:17] <LGKeiz> o_o
[11:17] <dr_willis_> jn-,  yes. it works decently well.
[11:17] <zugu> bye everyone, it was nice hanging around
[11:17] <LGKeiz> This is funny.
[11:17] <bit0> how could i write in a ntfs partition?
[11:17] <jn-> dr_willis_: costs money tho?
[11:17] <LGKeiz> mIRC on ubuntu
[11:17] <ailean> seeya zugu
[11:17] <ailean> thanks again
[11:17] <rsync> avis: i have only kmplayer
[11:17] <dr_willis_> jn-,  yes. $5 a mo. $15 miniman to get started
[11:17] <rsync> avis: i need mplayer.
[11:17] <dr_willis_> !cedega
[11:17] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[11:17] <dr_willis_> there is a demo version out.
[11:17] <Tsukaggin> Any one know why Firefox-bin is hanging? It doesn't close with the program, and prevents a relaunch untill I close it.
[11:17] <bl3ssing> yonasb, get to the konsole and type: sudo -i
[11:17] <ailean> rsync, so get mplayer
[11:17] <jn-> dr_willis_: that's a bummer..
[11:18] <bl3ssing> than you'll have the admin rights.
[11:18] <dr_willis_> jn-,  trivial...
[11:18] <bobbyd> hi
[11:18] <jn-> is there a free alternative?
[11:18] <dr_willis_> jn-,  go use wine then.
[11:18] <bobbyd> is there an amd64 ubuntu channel?
[11:18] <ailean> bit0, is writing to ntfs stable now?
[11:18] <rsync> ailean: what line do i add to sources.list
[11:18] <bl3ssing> than try to get to the usb media files
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ailean: no
[11:18] <bl3ssing> and ... rename it. :D
[11:18] <bit0> aidehua, don't know...
[11:18] <dr_willis_> since cedega is wine + tweaks and things
[11:18] <avis> rsync, what i said, works for me everytime.. and i fetch mplayer-686 every time so either its a server error or your sources.list
[11:18] <ehazlett> im having trouble with usplash creation...  i have followed the howto exactly...  i got it to work once, but none since...
[11:18] <ehazlett> just a black screen
[11:18] <bit0> aidehua,  ntfs-3 ?
[11:19] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  i thanks I did it
[11:19] <forngren>  station, unfortantly they only broadcasts in the windows media format, how can I add support for the cursed format? thx, 6.06 and Firefox
[11:19] <fermar> quit
[11:19] <bit0> aidehua,  ntfs-3g ?
[11:19] <ailean> gnomefreak, any sign of it being stable?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ailean: no
[11:19] <ailean> lol
[11:20] <bl3ssing> did you change the name of your usb device?
[11:20] <bl3ssing> yonasb,
[11:20] <ailean> if only it was possible to install windows on fat :)
[11:20] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  yes I did.
[11:20] <Tsukaggin> Any one know why Firefox-bin is hanging? It doesn't close with the program, and prevents a relaunch untill I close it.
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> forngren: are you after w32codecs?
[11:21] <avoine> someone have a idea how i can create a minimal ubuntu disk?
[11:21] <minerale> Hi, anyone know of any utility that can play .flv (flash video files) ?
[11:22] <forngren> TheGateKeeper: yes, or something simular, I have most of gstreamer installed
[11:22] <Jerr> ok, so now I have 2 x screens (I like to keep them seperate) but for some reason ubuntu enjoys making the 2nd monitor the first one
[11:23] <[b] urk> lets say i wanna run a script every time i type lollerskater in terminal
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > gatekeeper
[11:24] <[b] urk> do i then just make the script and put it in a bin-folder?
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > thegatekeeper
[11:24] <[b] urk> without any extensions?
[11:24] <ardchoille> [b] urk: You can mkdir ~/bin  and keep it there
[11:25] <[b] urk> i have a bin-dir
[11:25] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  Thank you very much for your help.
[11:25] <[b] urk> but what im wondering if i need any kind of extension?
[11:25] <[b] urk> like .sh?
[11:25] <Jerr> no
[11:25] <LGKeiz> What is a good emulator for win32 games, other than the cegada or however you spell it ^^
[11:25] <Jerr> LGKeiz: wine?
[11:25] <bignose_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223093&highlight=vmware+bridged+networking this thread suggests changing the MAC address for the vmware machine.. how do you generate a valid mac address ?
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> forngren: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19337
[11:26] <ardchoille> [b] urk: You can also add something like this to your ~/.bashrc file:  alias lollerskater='/path/to/script.sh'
[11:26] <LGKeiz> I don't think wine would work with gunbound >.>;
[11:26] <dr_willis_> LGKeiz,  wine, cedega, or go hardcore with vmware/qemu
[11:26] <bl3ssing> yonasb, no problem. That's why I
[11:26] <[b] urk> ardchoille, ok thanks
[11:26] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[11:26] <Jerr> vmware is shit for games
[11:26] <bl3ssing> yonasb, no problem. That's why I'm here ... to help you ... so that you could help me whenever I need any helping ... :D I mean ... not only you, but the others. :D
[11:26] <bl3ssing> heehehe
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Could the fact that I am running K3B under Ubuntu/Gnome rather than under KDE be the cause of my filenames being changed after I select burn.
[11:27] <dr_willis_> Jack_Sparrow,  no.
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Any Ideas
[11:27] <dr_willis_> Jack_Sparrow,  the various filesystems you can burn  dvd/cds as - affect the limits to the filenames
[11:27] <Jerr> Jack_Sparrow: it's a setting
[11:27] <ardchoille> [b] urk: If yu add that as an alias, you'll need to chmod u+x the script
[11:27] <yonasb> bl3ssing,  it is nice of you. I hope I can pay you back. But you seem to be smart and don't need my help at all.
[11:27] <dr_willis_> I tend to use dvd-udf
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr: Could you point me to it
[11:28] <Jerr> well, what's your problem (all caps, ...)
[11:28] <limbi> anyone who knows, how to connect to the internet via dial up modem using ubuntu?
[11:28] <hippie23> hello
[11:28] <ticki> hi, how can i find all the programms that work with pdf files ?
[11:28] <iratik> Help! with apt , Couldn't find package mysql5
[11:29] <LGKeiz> http://legacygamers.net/screenshot.png <-
[11:29] <ardchoille> !info mysql5
[11:29] <ubotu> Package mysql5 does not exist in dapper
[11:29] <ailean> ticky, one should come with ubuntu
[11:29] <mitrovarr> is there any simple way to replace gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver?  gnome-screensaver is less than useful
[11:29] <ailean> ticki, one should come with ubuntu
[11:29] <ardchoille> iratik: That's why you can't find it
[11:29] <hippie23> I have a mac with yaboot boot loader, how do i get to recovery mode so I can fix the x server? its not like grub where I hit "esc" and it gives me a list with recovery mode as an option
[11:29] <iratik> Arghh...
[11:29] <bit0> ailean, thanks.. i've just install ntfs-3g :/
[11:29] <dr_willis_> !dialup
[11:30] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[11:30] <ticki> ailean: yes. evidence, but i want to see a list of programms installed that have "pdf" in their name or in their description
[11:30] <iratik> its mysql-server
[11:30] <iratik> !info mysql-server
[11:30] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In repository main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:30] <ailean> ticki, search for "pdf" in Synaptic
[11:31] <abo> my firefox video plugins work sometimes but most of the time do not, they work better on konqueror, although not perfectly,  anyone can help
[11:31] <tengil> how do i allow remove desktop on a machine. except going into this remote desktop preferences in gnome?
[11:31] <dr_willis_> tengil,  you remote desktop?
[11:31] <ticki> ailean: i knew that one and that's what i was doing. any other way to do it from the command line?
[11:31] <dr_willis_> tengil,  you mean the vnc remote desktop?
[11:32] <tengil> dr_willis_: well basically i just wanna use the rdesktop command to one of my machines. i cna do it to work using vpn
[11:32] <tengil> how would i solve this on my home net?
[11:32] <ailean> ticki i'm sure there is but it won't give you a diff answer
[11:32] <tulio> !wine
[11:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:32] <dr_willis_> tengil,  i tend to ssh to the remote box. run vncserver, then connect with vncclient
[11:32] <ticki> ok. thanks. 'm trying to depend more on the command line than in any GUI
[11:32] <dr_willis_> tengil,  that way i dont have to be on the local machine at all.. it dont even need a monitor
[11:33] <dr_willis_> err on the remote machine at all. :)
[11:33] <forngren> TheGateKeeper: thanks, but it seems like the station I wanna listen uses somekind of detection if one has vm installed :(
[11:33] <tengil> dr_willis_: thats basically what i wanna do. but why cant i just use rdesktop?
[11:33] <ailean> ticki try sudo apt-get search pdf
[11:33] <dr_willis_> tengil,  because then you have to start rdesktop on the remote machine.. and i find that remote desktop to be slower.. plus why have the other desktop where people can see what its doing
[11:33] <ardchoille> ailean: apt-cache search pdf
[11:34] <ailean> sorry, that
[11:34] <dr_willis_> tengil,  my way - i can also have several desktops going.
[11:34] <tengil> dr_willis_: i dont a monitor to the remove machine anyways if thats what you mean
[11:34] <imperfect-> Anyuone know of a setting I can feed my kernel to help me boot a dapper install disc with an ADC connected monitor
[11:34] <tengil> dr_willis_: why wouldnt that work with rdesktop though? having several desktops?
[11:34] <dr_willis_> tengil,  then  ssh in have it run gnome-session  use vncviewer
[11:34] <dr_willis_> rdesktop is just a vnc variant as far as i know
[11:35] <dr_willis_> !info rdesktop
[11:35] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> forngren: bad luck, this any use: http://www.shoutcast.com/
[11:35] <dr_willis_> or it can be. :P
[11:35] <dr_willis_> I just perfer vnc.  since i know how to use it.
[11:35] <ticki> ardchoille and ailean: thanks.. any way to list only the installed ones?
[11:35] <tengil> anyways basically i need to run a vncserver and client then?
[11:36] <dr_willis_> tengil,  thats how  I do it.. rdesktop may be able to do it differently.
[11:36] <ailean> ticki, yes you'll get all the options by typing "sudo apt-get/apt-cache -h"
[11:36] <limbi> whoa, it seems like using a dial up modem is as hard as building a spaceship under ubuntu...
[11:36] <mitrovarr> it's incentive to get broadbands
[11:36] <dr_willis_> limbi,  depends on the modem
[11:36] <c0al> Should i ask for help with cgwd / compiz in this channel? or is their an official support channel for that?
[11:36] <ailean> limbi, its about time you got broadband anyway :P
[11:37] <ticki> ailean: so without the "-h" i get only the installed ones
[11:37] <ailean> c0al, no, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[11:37] <limbi> dr_willis_: how do i know if i have an easy modem?
[11:37] <c0al> ailean, thanks
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> limbi: is there an equivalent to kppp in gnome
[11:37] <ailean> ticki, no -h give you the help file
[11:37] <cal> what is the mplayer package in the ubuntu ports called?
[11:37] <cal> "mplayer doesn't seem to work"
[11:37] <limbi> ailean: i do. i do it for a friend who is on dial up.
[11:37] <imperfect-> no idea's, eh?
[11:37] <hippie23> its fixed
[11:37] <hippie23> bye
[11:37] <hippie23> yall have a good day
[11:37] <limbi> jack: i dont know.
[11:37] <ticki> ailean: oh.. i read the help and didn't 'help' much
[11:38] <dr_willis_> limbi,  google for the exact brand/chipset I guess.. I aint used a modem inyears
[11:38] <ticki> anyway.. don't worry..
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> limbi: HArdware modems should not be hard, software "Winmodems" can be hard to impossible
[11:38] <ticki> any good program to copy pdf text?
[11:38] <alan_> cal use automatix
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> dr_willis_: wounder if rdesktop is quicker than vnc, in windows remote desktop certainly seems to be quicker and in some ways better except when 2 people both want to see what is going on
[11:38] <ailean> ticki, sorry, i'm helping as much as i can
[11:38] <cal> alan_: will that compile, or use a binary?
[11:38] <ardchoille> alan_: Please do not recommend automatix.
[11:38] <limbi> jack: fine. hard is not hard, soft is hard. alright. what do i do now?
[11:38] <ticki> i have differenct columns and it would mess everything when i use EVINCE
[11:38] <ailean> cal, don't touch automatix
[11:38] <dr_willis_> TheGateKeeper,  i never want to share. :P and ive never actually messed with rdesktop
[11:38] <stalefries> !automatix
[11:38] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:38] <tengil> dr_willis_: there is a vncserver and vnc4server package. which do you recommend
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> limbi: Internal, external usb firewire ?
[11:39] <patrick_king> hey every one i having trouble installing dapper, i have run the cd check and theres no problem when it starts to install it sticks at 38%. i have left it for 8 hours but still nothing
[11:39] <dr_willis_> Friends dont let Friends use Automatix
[11:39] <dr_willis_> :P
[11:39] <cal> i figured it out all by myself.
[11:39] <MystaMax> what does inet in my /etc/network/interfaces mean?
[11:39] <limbi> jack: internal in an samsung x20 notebook.
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> cal: I agree don't use automatix useless you like fixing things
[11:39] <cal> classic case of "should've RTFM"
[11:39] <ailean> patrick_king, 8 hours?
[11:39] <dr_willis_> tengil,  i used the vnc4server they all work basicially the same
[11:39] <ailean> cal lol
[11:39] <tengil> dr_willis_: thanks
[11:40] <patrick_king> ailean: yep i left it stuck at 38% for 8 hours still nothing i have tried and tried again
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> patrick_king: boot to the first menu and press F6 and edit some of the Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[11:40] <ailean> patrick_king, have you been able to install an earlier version?
[11:41] <cal> ailean: what's the big issue with the automatix script anyway?  out of curiousity (i have mplayer now)
[11:41] <ailean> patrick_king, i had a prob before with the graphical installer, but was able to install in text mode alright
[11:41] <MystaMax> should I have a problem running gnome applications under xfce?
[11:41] <ailean> cal it installs things without an easy way to uninstall
[11:41] <patrick_king> ailean: breezy worked perfect and so did flight 5 and the final(i updated to get that)
[11:41] <ailean> cal, and can affect other apps
[11:41] <dr_willis_> cal,  it can screw things up big time.. and there used to be a Huge Flamewar/fest about it.. and they got a freaky licenseing issue
[11:41] <ailean> patrick_king, maybe install one of those then use "dist-upgrade" to get up to dapper??
[11:42] <limbi> i could boot into windows to see if the modem works at all.
[11:42] <limbi> under windows, how do i connect to irc?
[11:42] <cal> dr_willis_: this is debian.  everything and it's mother has a licencing issue ;)
[11:42] <patrick_king> i cant seem to find my breezy install disc, is it possible to still download it
[11:42] <dr_willis_> limbi,  there is xchat for windows
[11:42] <alan_> Was something changed in the way dhcp3 works between Horary and Dapper. My "timeout" isn't working anymore
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> limbi: use xchat
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> limbi: that would help if you could see what XP shows for hardware
[11:42] <ailean> limbi, download mIRC from mirc.com
[11:42] <_j> hi
[11:42] <bluemarvel> limbi: Trillian works pretty well
[11:42] <ailean> limbi, or xchat, i forgot there was a windows version of that :)
[11:43] <dr_willis_> cal,  if you want to see some heated debates  see if the automatix thread is still on the forums..
[11:43] <ailean> u have to pay for xchat on windows after a month though, don't you?
[11:43] <ttyfscker> i needa find me a hot linux chic
[11:43] <cal> dr_willis_: heh.  i'll look it up
[11:43] <dr_willis_> mirc is evil :P  heh.. google for one of the many FREE xchat variants for windows.
[11:43] <limbi> alright.. will try xchat.. thank you!
[11:43] <dr_willis_> you dont have to pay.. thats just the 'official' one.
[11:43] <ailean> yeah cal, every time someone brings it up, i'm right on top of it - i had some BAAAAD experiences with it
[11:43] <gnomefreak> dr_willis_: xchat itself is out for windows ;)
[11:43] <_j> how to enable masquerading or natting ? ive tried this(http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/t69pXZ63.html) but it doesnt work
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ailean: I use KVirc on windows and Linux... nice prog
[11:43] <ttyfscker> xchat is ported for windows
[11:44] <ttyfscker> xchat is better than mirc anyway
[11:44] <dr_willis_> gnomefreak,  theres 4 variants of xchat for windows that i am aware of.
[11:44] <ailean> the one i got i was asked to pay for it. only installed it today though: i have no intention of paying :)
[11:44] <patrick_king> is it possible to download dapper flight 5 or breezy any more
[11:44] <ailean> patrick_king, yes
[11:44] <ttyfscker> dr_willis_:: why not just use xchat 2.6 for windows?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Paladine: why there is a free version
[11:44] <dr_willis_> http://silenceisdefeat.org/~b0at/xchat/win32/
[11:44] <Paladine> its only like 20 bucks
[11:44] <patrick_king> ailean: have you got a link
[11:44] <dr_willis_> 'only'
[11:44] <dr_willis_> :P
[11:45] <Paladine> I know there are several free versions
[11:45] <ailean> patrick_king, lemme look
[11:45] <keNzi> http://theimagehosting.info/out.php/i14585_200607312338261024x768scrot.png
[11:45] <dr_willis_> or i can go download some variant for free... Hmmm...
[11:45] <patrick_king> ailean: cheers
[11:45] <Paladine> but I wanted to pay for the non free version
[11:45] <mistform> mirc is free
[11:45] <keNzi> why there is nothing about interfaces ?
[11:45] <mistform> for 30 days
[11:45] <gnomefreak> mistform: mirc is only free trail
[11:45] <dr_willis_> plus the official one had some bugs last i tried it.
[11:45] <jcplata> how can i use special characters??
[11:45] <dr_willis_> Mirc is Shareware - thats not 'free' as in gpl free.
[11:46] <ttyfscker> mirc is free after 30 days too.. it doesnt expire or anything..
[11:46] <keNzi> Paladine-> its time to use irssi
[11:46] <Paladine> why would I want to use irssi, I am perfectly happy with xchat
[11:46] <cal> even better, is to learn about ssh, screen and irssi
[11:46] <ailean> patrick_king, http://www.ubuntu.com/download_new?highlight=%28breezy%29
[11:46] <ttyfscker> irsii is for people that want to advertise their geekishness
[11:47] <patrick_king> ailean: cheers
[11:47] <cal> ttyfscker: no, it has clear advantages
[11:47] <Paladine> if Iwant to wave my genitals about I will just log into my scrollz session which has been sat in a screen session for about a year
[11:47] <ailean> patrick_king, you could have found that yourself :P Im too nice
[11:47] <ttyfscker> cal:: not for the average irc user it doesnt.. for using eggdrop or something maybe
[11:47] <cal> ttyfscker: screen, for example.  easy ssh for one.  X forwarding/freenx is poor
[11:48] <bl3ssing> why while I updated the Adept, when it is asking me May I update your system [Y/n]  ... I press Y and ... it is showing me Illegal answer?
[11:48] <cal> ttyfscker: i disagree.  xchat is nice, but gui clients can't compete.  gnu screen is a really big thing.
[11:48] <cowmilk> would you suggest installing Xubuntu on my Pentium III 500mHz, 128mb Ram, 12 GB hard drive box? Would I notice slowness if i use Ubuntu (gnome)
[11:48] <ailean> cowmilk, yes
[11:48] <Paladine> cal clearly GUI clients can compete as cli clients are very much the minority of users
[11:48] <ailean> cowmilk, that's what it's there for
[11:48] <Paladine> so your statement is clearly untrue
[11:49] <cowmilk> is there an easy way to convert a PDF to office file?
[11:49] <ailean> cowmilk, if you install Xubuntu, you can always add Gnome or whatever
[11:49] <cal> Paladine: popularity contests don't prove worth.  features do.
[11:49] <cowmilk> ailean: but if i do add gnome, won't that slow my comp down?
[11:49] <ttyfscker> cal:: i might use irscii if im running an old 286 machine...  the gui isnt for just newbies.. it just saves you from having to use virtual terminals, and having to use commands to do everything you can do with a mouse.. so i disagree about irsii
[11:49] <Paladine> cal, all clients are built on ircii
[11:49] <ailean> no, this is the beauty of linux
[11:49] <Paladine> so the "features" are all basically the same
[11:49] <ailean> cowmilk, it may slow it down if you USE it
[11:50] <cowmilk> you mean if i log onto a gnome session, ailean?
[11:50] <cal> Paladine: so?  i don't see what you mean.
[11:50] <ailean> cowmilk, but you can go back to your Xubuntu system if you dont like it
[11:50] <ailean> cowmilk, yes
[11:50] <cowmilk> what's a easy to use zip program for win 98
[11:50] <cowmilk> ?\
[11:50] <ailean> 7-zip
[11:50] <cowmilk> ailean: ty
[11:50] <cal> ttyfscker: i mean irssi
[11:50] <DarkSnake> I have a problem with a network (major Linuxn newbie here) and am looking for some help.
[11:50] <Paladine> cal, I been using irc for like 15 years and been adminning ircd's for 10,people who think cli clients makes them leet are just retarded in my opinion
[11:50] <ttyfscker> cal:: irssi whatever
[11:50] <jareth_> cowmilk: winzip??
[11:50] <Paladine> I have used just about every cli client and just about every gui client out there
[11:51] <cal> Paladine: and, for the record, irssi is a rewrite
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> cowmilk: I have XFce and KDE on a P3 test box with about 128Mb RAM and I can't say I have noticed much difference in speed although XFce is supposed to be lightweight
[11:51] <tjatkinson> does anyone know what else needs to be done on a thinkpad to get the volume buttons working, apart from disabling ACPI?
[11:51] <Gorbulas|iBook> hello
[11:51] <ttyfscker> cal:: i know what your talking about
[11:51] <ttyfscker> your talking about the brother to bitchx
[11:51] <bl3ssing> I try to full update Adept. What should I answer to this question: May I update your system? [Y/n]  ->> I've already typed y, but ... it is answering me: illegal answer. Why?
[11:51] <cowmilk> TheGateKeeper: that's what i'm wondering too. I'm wondering if I'm skiming down with no value.
[11:51] <cal> Paladine: it's nothing to do with and of that.  gnu screen is the difference.
[11:51] <cowmilk> without any benefit
[11:51] <jcplata> How can i use ascii in linux????
[11:51] <ailean> tjatkinson, i take it you've gone into keyboard shortcuts on gnome . . .
[11:51] <DarkSnake> So I have my XP box here, it's plugged in to my router (WRT54G). I recently installed Ubuntu 6.06 (I know very little about Linux currently, but am planning to try to learn it.) From the "Networking" utlitity it says "Ethernet0" is active, but there's no connetion from Firefox. The wire is good, (ran a contenunity test and such) so I'm not sure what the problem is. The router also seems to detect it fine as the light on it is blinking
[11:51] <DarkSnake> Sorry for teh spam
[11:52] <cal> ttyfscker: ;)
[11:52] <gekko`> bl3ssing: just hit return
[11:52] <Paladine> gnu screen has nothing to do with irc
[11:52] <ttyfscker> cal:: whats so good about gnu screen?
[11:52] <tjatkinson> ailean, it crashes and enters a low power state when I try a different key
[11:52] <cal> ttyfscker: you can keep terminal programs running even when logged out.
[11:52] <Paladine> screen is just a program that allows you to run cli applications which are not tied into your terminal login
[11:52] <bl3ssing> gekko`, how?
[11:52] <ttyfscker> cal:: i'd much rather see my channels im in laid out in tabs than have to use keyboard shortcuts to navigate through them..
[11:52] <bl3ssing> tried by typing, but no results.
[11:52] <minerale> does anyone here use XGL? I have a couple questions: a) does it support zooming?, if so what is the shortcut b) does it support transparency? (what is the shortcut)
[11:52] <ailean> tjatkinson, weird. i'm sorry that i can't help you other than that :)
[11:52] <cal> ttyfscker: it's pretty much alt+#.
[11:53] <ttyfscker> cal:: so?
[11:53] <cowmilk> is there a way to get an official comparison sppeds between Xubuntu and Ubuntu? Coz, as TheGateKeeper says, many people can't see any differneces
[11:53] <scrappy_> !xgl
[11:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:53] <Gorbulas|iBook> how can I customize the CD, and how customizable is it? I want to create a new livecd rescue CD for a specific task
[11:53] <gekko`> bl3ssing: don't type anything, just hit return if you want to confirm the question
[11:53] <cal> ttyfscker: i don't think alt+# is a particulary onerous shortcut
[11:53] <DarkSnake> Can anyone help with a basic networking problem?
[11:53] <Paladine> minerale, zoom = windowskey+scroll mouse, transparency = altkey plus scroll mouse
[11:53] <ailean> cowmilk, haven't heard of any
[11:53] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  on a fast box it wont be noticeable anyway
[11:53] <nikin> cups is a module, isnt it?
[11:53] <cal> DarkSnake: only if you ask the question ;)
[11:53] <DarkSnake> Okay
[11:53] <nikin> !cups
[11:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:53] <bl3ssing> what is that return?
[11:53] <cowmilk> dr_willis: that i know. but what about on my boxes ?
[11:53] <bl3ssing> gekko`, what's that return and how can I hit on it?
[11:54] <minerale> paladine: odd, that I have not been able to run it, but alas, let me tyr again
[11:54] <cowmilk> dr_willis: my better box is pIII 500mhZ, 128 mb Ram
[11:54] <ttyfscker> cal:: it is just aggrovating when you go away and someone msg's you or something happens and you dont see it because its all got flooded out.. then you dont know to alt+#
[11:54] <cowmilk> other box is same rame (128), but at 300 mHz
[11:54] <cal> bl3ssing: you're kidding.
[11:54] <DarkSnake> I have a WRT54G router setup, it works fine with this XP box. I have Ubuntu on another system which I recently setup. I plugged it in and such, but it won't get an IPv4 (IPv6 appears). Eth0 is enabled, though.
[11:54] <ailean> cowmilk, i've tried to run earlier versions of ubuntu on a 700MHz system and i ended up using fluxbox
[11:54] <bl3ssing> cal, i'm not kidding. My childhoos's in the past time!
[11:54] <bl3ssing> :D
[11:54] <ailean> cowmilk, i wouild definitely use xubuntu
[11:54] <gekko`> bl3ssing: they also call it 'enter'
[11:54] <cowmilk> ailean: ok.
[11:54] <cowmilk> i'll do so then
[11:54] <cowmilk> ailean: thanks
[11:55] <ailean> cowmilk, np
[11:55] <ttyfscker> DarkSnake:: have you tried openWRT by any chance?
[11:55] <bl3ssing> gekko`, I've done it for 1000 times. :D
[11:55] <ailean> but cowmilk, do TRY ubuntu
[11:55] <ailean> it doesn't take long
[11:55] <jcplata> how can i enter as a su?
[11:55] <DarkSnake> Umm
[11:55] <DarkSnake> Nope
[11:55] <cal> ttyfscker: i don't understand you situation, but i haven't encountered it.
[11:55] <DarkSnake> I'm a Linux noob, haha
[11:55] <ailean> jcplata, sudo
[11:55] <nikin> can anyone help me with cups?
[11:55] <DarkSnake> openWRT? is that just a shell command?
[11:55] <cowmilk> ailean: i have tried Ubuntu, just not on these 2 boxes
[11:55] <ailean> jcplata, ubuntu doesn't have a super user command
[11:55] <bl3ssing> Gecko, the same .. :(
[11:55] <bl3ssing> gekko`,
[11:55] <bl3ssing> gekko`, the same. :(
[11:56] <ailean> cowmilk, i mean try it on that box to see how it runs
[11:56] <cowmilk> ailean: i'm afraid that if i try ubuntu on these boxes, it will contaminate my Xubuntu boxes, making my boxes run slow, even after uninstalling ubuntu.
[11:56] <marshall__> hey guys
[11:56] <Grue_Lovah> and the linux equiv. of flash is...???
[11:56] <bl3ssing> welcome back Yoran!
[11:56] <cal> cowmilk: WHAT?
[11:56] <ttyfscker> cal:: im not sure what day and age your living in, but for some things gui's just make things a lot more simpler... it isnt as powerful as the command line.. but things like irc/IM protocols. they just are a lot easier to use with a gui..
[11:56] <cowmilk> cal: just worried
[11:56] <bl3ssing> Grue_Lovah, FLASH! :D
[11:56] <ailean> cowmilk, if you reformat and install over it, it will not cause a problem
[11:56] <marshall__> for some reason i can't get any sound from flash in firefox
[11:56] <scrappy_> nikin: you can ask your cups question i dont use it much but someone might
[11:56] <nikin> i have setupped my printer, a canon LBP2900, got drivers and all... but when i try to print, it gets to the spool job, and i get a job stopped! message in 5-6 seconds
[11:56] <cal> cowmilk: you shouldn't be.  :)
[11:56] <nikin> no printing at all
[11:56] <cowmilk> ailean: i don' think i'd like to reformat if I've got stuff on it already
[11:56] <cowmilk> like my files
[11:57] <majestikm> hi guys, I'm tri-booting with my macbook using rEFIt and lilo.  I've run into a problem.  When I try to load windows it takes loads ubuntu through lilo instead.  Is there a way to fix this?
[11:57] <Paladine> ttyfscker, there is nothing you can doin a cli irc client that you can't do in xchat
[11:57] <ailean> cowmilk, i've had windows, macosX and several flavours of linux on this
[11:57] <Yoran> my ubuntu doesnt detect any internet connection :s
[11:57] <marshall__> does anybody know how to fix sound in flash?
[11:57] <jcplata> ailean: i try to give su and them  it ask me for the password  but it failure
[11:57] <HLDoom32768> how do I find a list of servers? lol, sorry I have never used IRC before :P
[11:57] <ailean> cowmilk, the stuff you want to keep is on a diff partition though yeah?
[11:57] <ttyfscker> Paladine:: thats pretty much what my point was
[11:57] <marshall__> Yoran: how are you trying to connect?
[11:57] <gekko`> bl3ssing: are you trying to upgrade all your packages or just one package?
[11:57] <cal> ttyfscker: the "day and age" arguement is childish.  drop it.  either way, the cli is still an excellent way to interact.
[11:57] <Grue_Lovah> Can you make flash on Linux?
[11:57] <slobokan> cd ~
[11:57] <ailean> jcplata, use "sudo" before any command you need to be "root" for
[11:57] <Paladine> cli clients have absolutely zero advantage over xchat (and don't use resources as an excuse, because iof you don't have the resources to run xchat then you need to upgrade your system)
[11:58] <gatekeeper> cowmilk: never tested Enlightenment on a hard disk install but was *very* impressed with the speed of OLiveCD
[11:58] <cal> ttyfscker: programming isn't done by point and click either.  i don't see the issue
[11:58] <ailean> jcplata, su doesn't work on ubuntu
[11:58] <ttyfscker> cal:: the cli is a good way to interact with the OS..  dont over power your geekishness by using it for everything else too
[11:58] <bl3ssing> all ... gekko. Through ADEPT! I have already started to fully upgrade the Adept! And that thing's keeping noying me.
[11:58] <cowmilk> ailean: i don't know
[11:58] <scrappy_> Paladine: xchat over ssh with x?
[11:58] <Sandor> Hey, I'm having a problem installing Ubunut everything goes fine until it gets to around 74% installing and then it seems to freeze... any solutions?
[11:58] <DarkSnake> OpenWRT wouldn't help, I have it phyiscally plugged into the thing.
[11:58] <ttyfscker> cal:: good job you earned your geek certificate.. now like you said drop it
[11:58] <ailean> cowmilk, well maybe you should learn some more before messing around with this sort of thing
[11:58] <cal> Paladine: resources isn't an excuse.  lack of gnu screen is
[11:58] <cowmilk> ailean: i don't know about your partition question
[11:58] <Paladine> scrappy, if you so desire
[11:58] <ailean> cowmilk, or just backup :)
[11:58] <Yoran> marshall__ : see MP
[11:58] <jcplata> ailean: thank you
[11:58] <Paladine> cal, the screen argument is ridiculous
[11:58] <ttyfscker> cal:: wtf is so good about gnu screen
[11:58] <cowmilk> ailean: no, at this time , nothing to back up. all my files are off the comp
[11:59] <ttyfscker> thats pretty lame man
[11:59] <Paladine> cal, using screen is no different to leaving xchat running
[11:59] <ailean> cowmilk, well what are you worrying about?
[11:59] <marshall__> does anybody know how to fix the no sound issue in flash?
[11:59] <bl3ssing> gekko`, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19338
[11:59] <void^> Paladine: uh, it is very different
[11:59] <cal> Paladine: yeah, if you're always on the same machine it's no different.  if you're moving machines, it's very difference
[11:59] <ailean> hey reggaemanu - how is the xgl work coming on?
[11:59] <cowmilk> ailean: what i'm worried about is that if i install ubuntu on a xubuntu box, and then later uninstall ubuntu, would my xubuntu box not hae the same speed as when I haven't installed ubuntu?
[12:00] <cal> cowmilk: no.  it will be the same
[12:00] <Sandor> Hey, I'm having a problem installing Ubunut everything goes fine until it gets to around 74% installing and then it seems to freeze... any solutions?
[12:00] <Paladine> cal if I am moving machine and want to use xchat on my main machine I can just open a terminal service
[12:00] <ailean> cowmilk, if there is nothing you need to keep on the disk, just format and install over it
[12:00] <Paladine> so no thereis no difference
[12:00] <ailean> cowmilk, if there IS, then don't do that :)
[12:00] <cowmilk> cal: ok
[12:00] <nikin> is cups a module?
[12:00] <mistform> what irc client should I use for ubuntu?
[12:00] <Yoran> Hi guys, i install ubuntu with dual boot with xp. Everything works fine except that it doesn't detect any internet connection. Strange cause internet works fine on XP. What can be the cause of it?
[12:00] <mistform> I need one that I can do scripting in
[12:00] <ailean> mistform, xchat
[12:01] <gekko`> bl3ssing: try apt-get upgrade
[12:01] <nikin> xcat :D