[12:09] <h3sp4wn> !info splashy
[12:09] <ubotu> Package splashy does not exist in dapper
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> !info splashy edgy
[12:09] <ubotu> Package splashy does not exist in edgy
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> splashy is pretty good as a bootsplash program (apparantly)
[12:17] <Bbetto> hi
[12:18] <Bbetto> where i found complete imformation about kopete? like configuration, etc
[12:19] <Bbetto> HI
[12:19] <Bbetto> alguien habla espaol aqui?
[12:21] <ricardo_> Bbetto: yo...
[12:21] <hippie> Bbetto: mejor ingresa a  #kubuntu-es
[12:22] <Bbetto> no hay nadie
[12:22] <Bbetto> bueno mas bien los pocos que hay no contestan
[12:22] <Bbetto> solo tu contestabas
[12:23] <hippie> y que necesitas Bbetto?
[12:23] <cpk2> !spanish
[12:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:23] <cpk2> oh he said no one is in there
[12:23] <cpk2> oops
[12:26] <Philip5> isn't this a english speaking channel?
[12:26] <divan> yes
[12:27] <Martijn81> very English yes
[12:28] <_darksoul> !ATI
[12:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <_darksoul> !ati
[12:41] <virogenesis> how can i make icons like computer to appear on the desktop?
[12:42] <dmhouse> Hi all, trying to use my iPod Nano with amaroK, but on clicking 'Connect', only two songs appear.
[12:43] <dmhouse> Two songs in the 'Artist' section, that is.
[12:43] <dmhouse> Any ideas about what's going wrong?
[12:43] <soulrider> virogenesis: theres nothign like "my computer" in linux
[12:43] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Yes there is
[12:43] <soulrider> dmhouse: sorry i dont know, dont have an ipod :(
[12:44] <soulrider> Hawkwind: there is? :O
[12:44] <Hawkwind> soulrider: It's called 'home'
[12:44] <soulrider> ah
[12:44] <Hawkwind> soulrider: KDE puts icons on the desktop for that by default
[12:44] <ubuntu_> hi 2 everyone
[12:44] <ubuntu_> Agios greek?
[12:45] <virogenesis> Hawkwind: what do i need to do to enable the icons i know in gnome you have to mess about in gconf-editor
[12:47] <Hawkwind> virogenesis: I don't use KDE.  But I'm guessing you need to drag them into your ~/Desktop directory so they appear on your desktop
[12:47] <virogenesis> thats annoying cheers
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Are you still using e17 mostly (I am) has anything changed that would cause etk_server and empower to not build atm ? (i.e has a new library been added which I need to build first ?)
[12:51] <Agios> ubuntu_: not Greek but still a saint :)
[12:51] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I have heard reports of etk_server being broken the other day.  I updated yesterday from CVS and all is well
[12:54] <soulrider> !run
[12:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about run - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:54] <soulrider> guys, i downlaoded enemy territory,a dn tis a .run file
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: I will try it again later today
[12:56] <vigilante_> where do I go to change login screen style and splash screen?
[12:56] <Hawkwind> !usplash
[12:56] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:56] <dr_willis> login screen is under the kdm contol panel thing.
[12:57] <Philip5> when i tried to compile etk_server this saturday it was broken
[12:57] <dr_willis> then ya got the kde splash login - thats another setting
[12:57] <dr_willis> then ya got the boot splash screen. :P
[12:58] <SpAwN> !kde
[12:58] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:58] <sk8kidk> I'm trying to disable IPv6, but when I try and save the bad_list file it says access denied...
[12:58] <Hawkwind> sk8kidk: Edit it as sudo
[12:59] <vigilante_> dr_willis: I found the kde user login style setting, I don't care about the bootsplash... , what I can't find is the kdm style
[12:59] <sk8kidk> ehh, I'm not good with the terminal, how do I make and edit a file in sudo?
[12:59] <Hawkwind> sk8kidk: sudo kwrite filename
[12:59] <soulrider> SpAwN: how do i runa  run file ?
[01:00] <gekko`> sk8kidk: sudo vim <file>
[01:00] <Hawkwind> sk8kidk: You have to use sudo in place of root on Ubuntu
[01:00] <SpAwN> ./filename.run
[01:00] <sk8kidk> i know
[01:00] <SpAwN> chmod +x filename 1st
[01:00] <SpAwN> that will make it executable
[01:00] <vigilante_> !kdm
[01:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:00] <dr_willis> vigilante_,  its there in the menus somewhere... :P
[01:01] <soulrider> ok
[01:01] <soulrider> thanks!!
[01:01] <vigilante_> dr_willis: this is why I don't like how kubuntu has reorganized (butchured) kcontrol :P
[01:01] <visik_> sk8kidk: a file called as you want in /etc/modprobe.d/ containing alias net-pf-10 off should be enougth
[01:01] <dr_willis> vigilante_,  never noticed.
[01:01] <dr_willis> vigilante_,  theres seveal settings/buttons to controll its layout
[01:02] <vigilante_> dr_willis: have you ever used kde before?  try doing run command>kcontrol
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> !info kdesu
[01:03] <ubotu> Package kdesu does not exist in dapper
[01:03] <soulrider> SpAwN: it wont install, can i send yout he error?
[01:03] <sk8kidk> when I try typing sudo kate bad_list it gives me a bunch of errors...
[01:03] <SpAwN> soulrider, put it in pastebin and i can take alook
[01:03] <soulrider> yup
[01:03] <soulrider> !pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:04] <SpAwN> what are u trying to install?
[01:04] <dmhouse> When using iPods in amaroK, does it only show where the files on your iPod and your collection overlap
[01:04] <tryingsomething> anyone ever try running dvd shrink via qemu on a ppc box?
[01:04] <soulrider> enmy territory
[01:04] <dr_willis> tryingsomething,  thats scary
[01:04] <tryingsomething> haha why?
[01:04] <SpAwN> it should be a easy install....paste the error
[01:04] <sk8kidk> *sigh*
[01:04] <sk8kidk> !root
[01:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> which package is kdesu in ? dpkg -S kdesu will tell you ?
[01:05] <cpk2> doesnt kubuntu come with kdesu?
[01:05] <soulrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19342
[01:05] <tryingsomething> i dont have a x86 pc available for rippin and i find k9copy too much - dvdshrink is so simple
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: I am running e17 so I only have a little bit of kde installed
[01:06] <cpk2> oh
[01:06] <dr_willis> vigilante_,  its under system administration/login manager
[01:06] <cpk2> you mean you cant have all of kde on a lean system?!?
[01:06] <cpk2> =P
[01:06] <SpAwN> soulrider, i have never seen that b4.........
[01:06] <soulrider> :(
[01:06] <soulrider> shyte
[01:06] <SpAwN> soulrider, im not sure what to tell you.....maby someone else here can help
[01:07] <soulrider> cpk2:  ? =D
[01:07] <tryingsomething> so qemu is slow i take it? not ment for encoding
[01:07] <dr_willis> tryingsomething,  depends on the system.
[01:08] <tryingsomething> well i dont have a g5
[01:08] <tryingsomething> its a g4 macmini
[01:08] <dr_willis> tryingsomething,  you are taking proberly the most computer-power-hungry task you can think of.. and putting it in a virtual machine.. :P
[01:08] <tryingsomething> yes i am thinking of sellin my ppc mini and gettin either the aopen one or the new intel one
[01:08] <BluesKaj> so will wine run stuff like dvd shrink or nero vision ?
[01:08] <dr_willis> or turn the ppc mini into a fileserver/media box.
[01:09] <tryingsomething> ya it is that now
[01:09] <dr_willis> wine may or may not run those apps. :P
[01:09] <dr_willis> it depends on a lot of things.
[01:09] <tryingsomething> wine will run shrink
[01:09] <tryingsomething> not sure about nero
[01:09] <sk8kidk> could someone tell me why enabling the root account is not recommended?
[01:09] <tryingsomething> cuz its a securty thing
[01:09] <dr_willis> sk8kidk,  its a bad habbit to do.. and security is all about learning proper 'methodology'
[01:09] <roger_> easier to mess up needed files
[01:09] <BluesKaj> root can take over your pc
[01:09] <tryingsomething> best thing u could do is not have that
[01:09] <dnkidjit> sk8kidk: there is no reason. its more newbie friendly
[01:09] <tryingsomething> yes that right there
[01:09] <sk8kidk> fine then, screw sudo
[01:10] <dr_willis> sudo is  the proper thing to use.
[01:10] <tryingsomething> si senor
[01:11] <bluesceada> BluesKaj: nero is available for linux afaik
[01:11] <vigilante_> dr_willis: I see it there for loging manager settings, I think the kdm style engine is not installed, that is the problem
[01:11] <sk8kidk> oh well, im using root, and it doesnt matter if a hacker gets to my computer, this is a spare computer anyway...
[01:11] <BluesKaj> su su sudo-bash ...sounds like a phil collins song :)
[01:11] <gekko`> soulrider: do you have libgtk installed?
[01:11] <soulrider> dunno
[01:11] <soulrider> im reading the Id software FAQ
[01:11] <tryingsomething> yes but think of all the cpu cycles they could be hogging with a zombie farm
[01:11] <soulrider> is quake 3 arena free now?
[01:11] <BluesKaj> already did that joke I think...old guys repeat themselved
[01:11] <tryingsomething> the source might be
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> kdesu is in kdebase-bin
[01:12] <rr72> soulrider~ let me know if it is
[01:12] <jordanR> sk8kidk: just use sudo bash if you are going to be root for a long time. once you exit out of the term you are not root anymore.
[01:12] <soulrider> it says that: This may happening on old quake3 setups. Get the latest one, it will work right ( currently linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run, which you can find on id's ftp )
[01:13] <virogenesis> does anyone know a good clock applet the standard is horrid
[01:13] <rr72> sk8kidk~ if they get in they will look for ur other computers on ur network that are open
[01:13] <rr72> give them easier access
[01:14] <rr72> oh he left
[01:14] <rr72> his problem not mine
[01:14] <rr72> glad hes not my netadmin or sysadmin
[01:15] <dnkidjit> heh. if he was he wouldn't be using kubuntu for his servers and he would have a well managed root account.. there are reasons for not enabling root, but security is not a valid one.
[01:15] <tryingsomething> lol
[01:15] <rr72> soulrider~ so is quake 3 free?
[01:15] <soulrider> dunno, ic ant connect tot he FTP
[01:15] <soulrider> i knwo the graphical engine is open source though
[01:15] <rr72> huh?
[01:15] <tryingsomething> rr72 find a bittorrent and stop asking
[01:15] <rr72> tryingsomething~ so ur telling me to pirate software right in the #kubuntu channel?
[01:15] <tryingsomething> quake 3 has to be dirt cheap by now
[01:16] <sk8kidk> okay, when I type "sudo kate bad_list" it gives me a whole bunch of errors
[01:16] <soulrider> quake 3 owns all :P
[01:16] <soulrider> so much fun
[01:16] <tryingsomething> im telling you sarcastically that you should know if it is or not
[01:16] <rr72> whole bunch or errors is very sicriptive
[01:16] <rr72> *discriptave
[01:16] <rr72> meh i can't spell
[01:16] <soulrider> quake4-linux-1.3.x86.run	DL	07-31 16:21	228.35 MB	1	14	8
[01:16] <soulrider> thast from idsoftware
[01:16] <dnkidjit> sk8kidk: user kdesu or gtusudo for sudo with gui apps
[01:16] <sk8kidk> like X Server could not be contacted or something
[01:16] <soulrider> im guessing its free
[01:17] <rr72> !pastebin > sk8kidk
[01:17] <tryingsomething> there is a demo - i dont see source code anywhere
[01:18] <gekko`> sk8kidk: kdesu kedit <file>
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> The quake 3 source is available (warsow free oss shooter is based on it) what is not free is the quake 3 models etc
[01:18] <gekko`> or sudo vim <file> for terminal based edit
[01:18] <rr72> does it have to be gui use the cmd line
[01:18] <soulrider> ah
[01:18] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ ty
[01:19] <rr72> oss shooter? whats oss mean?
[01:19] <gekko`> h3sp4wn: warsow is based on the quake 2 engine
[01:19] <rr72> whats a massive FPS for linux with servers that people play alot of?
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> Open Sound System ?
[01:19] <rr72> like BZflag but not tanks
[01:20] <soulrider> enemy territory :P
[01:20] <rr72> its installing fine for me
[01:20] <rr72> so far
[01:21] <dr_willis> xpilot
[01:21] <soulrider> ET?
[01:21] <rr72> i prolly jynxed it
[01:21] <dr_willis> !info xpilot
[01:21] <ubotu> xpilot: Dummy upgrade package for xpilot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.5.5beta.20050814 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[01:21] <dr_willis> RTCW:ET is good
[01:21] <rr72> yeah it has a semi graphical install
[01:21] <DaSkreech> Hmm Why would mplayer not see files that it can obviously play
[01:21] <dr_willis> Trembulus is fun!  but ya got to go to their web site
[01:21] <dr_willis> Tremulus
[01:21] <dr_willis> its Q3 based
[01:21] <DaSkreech> Or better yet how do I get it to see .au files?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Still talking about games? :-D
[01:22] <rr72> crap get signall 11 error
[01:23] <sk8kidk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19343 <<it also happens with "sudo kdesu kate bad_list"
[01:23] <rr72> nope it doesnt work
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> rr72: According to http://www.idsoftware.com/business/techdownloads/ - the source of quake 3 arena can be downloaded but only for win32
[01:23] <soulrider> yes!
[01:23] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ i have windows32 bit :)
[01:23] <soulrider> i installed a librabry and it works now
[01:23] <SpAwN> rr72, et is a pretty huge community
[01:23] <soulrider> yup
[01:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Soooo it can't be downloaded on Vista?
[01:23] <tryingsomething> lol
[01:24] <rr72> soulrider~ i get a signall 11 error
[01:24] <soulrider> :-/
[01:24] <tryingsomething> why would you want to use vista?
[01:24] <rr72> ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (4)
[01:24] <rr72> i think thats it right there
[01:24] <rr72> i don't care tho
[01:24] <DavyO> hello ppl
[01:24] <soulrider> install this
[01:24] <SpAwN> damn i EVER had probs with the et installer
[01:24] <sk8kidk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19343 <<it also happens with "sudo kdesu kate bad_list"
[01:24] <soulrider> libgtk1.2
[01:25] <rr72> nah
[01:25] <DaSkreech> Vista has windows (and a kernel) made of glass!!
[01:25] <soulrider> ET si wonderful ! :P
[01:25] <rr72> im not on kubuntu and its a slower machine im on
[01:25] <soulrider> lol no wonder it breaks so much
[01:25] <rr72> now i need to uninstall for space
[01:25] <soulrider> ahve you guys seent he voice recognition video ?
[01:25] <sk8kidk> yeah
[01:25] <sk8kidk> thats hilarious!!
[01:25] <soulrider> so funny
[01:25] <DavyO> i have some problems with upgrading some things :(, its withholding some packages it says
[01:25] <SpAwN> soulrider, to me it sounds kinda like u need to tell it where that file is...or make alink to the file
[01:25] <rr72> ill do it on kubuntu
[01:25] <rr72> soulrider~ what pack the same one u got?
[01:25] <soulrider> SpAwN: i could solve it already, iw as missing a library
[01:26] <SpAwN> rr72, enemy territory only needs like a 800mhz cpu and stuff
[01:26] <rr72> i  run 850
[01:26] <soulrider> i downloaded libgtk1.2
[01:26] <rr72> but having problems
[01:26] <sk8kidk> ya know what, I'll figure it out myself
[01:26] <rr72> no the name of the et one
[01:26] <SpAwN> soulrider, did it fix it
[01:26] <soulrider> description sais....gmp toolkit set for widgets on X
[01:26] <DarkAdmiral> i need a new dapper package for kopete 0.12
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: I am going to try Tremulus some day (well downloading it so I hopefully don't forget about it cheers)
[01:26] <soulrider> yes it did
[01:26] <DarkAdmiral> with updated icq protocol
[01:26] <soulrider> its insatlled now :D
[01:26] <rr72> soulrider~ the name of the et packache
[01:27] <SpAwN> soulrider, ahh good deal
[01:27] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  that game makes me way tooo dizzy
[01:27] <SpAwN> u guys ever play the painball game made from the q3 code?
[01:27] <OnGentooDistro> Which? There were a few
[01:27] <SpAwN> i forget the name of it.....
[01:28] <SpAwN> umm painball2 or somthing
[01:28] <soulrider> never
[01:28] <rr72> soulrider~ can i have alink to the et dl u did?
[01:28] <OnGentooDistro> Off q3 code? strange, most games are based of q1 code since it's the open source one
[01:28] <soulrider> i got it from www.rtcwfiles.com
[01:28] <soulrider> q3 is open source now too
[01:28] <OnGentooDistro> such as http://www.nexuiz.com
[01:28] <OnGentooDistro> q3 is open source?
[01:28] <SpAwN> OnGentooDistro, u smoke crack....q3 is open source
[01:28] <OnGentooDistro> wow, I'm really behind
[01:28] <OnGentooDistro> o_O
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> q3 is also opensource as is quake 2 as is quake
[01:28] <SpAwN> :P
[01:28] <soulrider> i made maps for some quake 3 games :P
[01:29] <soulrider> jedi outcast, jedia cademy and elite force
[01:29] <SpAwN> soulrider, i tried to make some maps..i sucked at it
[01:29] <OnGentooDistro> I don't follow the quake engines, as, anything I make is with ogre3d : D.  Ogre3d & Newton > all
[01:29] <SpAwN> soulrider, i made a big huge room..and it was pitchblack...i added about 3000 lights and it still didnt light the place up
[01:29] <OnGentooDistro> You probally didn't build the light maps ; )
[01:29] <SpAwN> OnGentooDistro, i dont make anything...i just play  the games
[01:30] <soulrider> well, you gotta palce the lights next tot he walls
[01:30] <SpAwN> OnGentooDistro, i was told i could add a command to the paintbrush or w/e and it would make it light...bu ti never tried
[01:30] <soulrider> or there will be nothign to illuminate
[01:31] <black_kernel> a
[01:31] <SpAwN> they have the gtkradiant for linux also
[01:31] <SpAwN> i built that from source on mandriva
[01:31] <soulrider> of course
[01:31] <DavyO> i have a problem with upgrading some stuf, can anybody help :)
[01:31] <soulrider> im rpetty good at mapping actually
[01:31] <OnGentooDistro> I'm into programming mainly, but I can hold my own making maps/doing 3d graphics
[01:32] <SpAwN> soulrider, nice maby u will have to show me a few things somtime ;D
[01:32] <soulrider> sure
[01:32] <soulrider> i lvoed mapping
[01:32] <soulrider> in fact, i even considrered studying architecture in college :P
[01:32] <SpAwN> i played with it for abour a week and got totaly confused
[01:33] <soulrider> lol
[01:33] <SpAwN> its alot to get used to....or at least for me it was
[01:33] <OnGentooDistro> I found quake mapping alot harder than unreal tournament mapping = \, maybe you should try starting there
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> I can use the tools for making duke nukem 3d maps but nothing more recent
[01:33] <SpAwN> like the x;y cordinates and such....keep in mind i never made it past the 10 grade
[01:33] <soulrider> i never did unreal mapping
[01:34] <visik_> gtkradiant ?
[01:34] <OnGentooDistro> Unreal mapping is nice, it supports alot more formats and the editor is more intuitive
[01:34] <soulrider> the secret of any map is the lights
[01:34] <soulrider> you can be an awesome brusher
[01:34] <soulrider> but if youre abd with lights the map will suck
[01:34] <soulrider> and you can eba  terrible brusher but if the lights are good, map will look good
[01:35] <soulrider> this is BS, it tells me my root pass is wrong
[01:35] <SpAwN> soulrider, it is
[01:35] <soulrider> i sued sudo now
[01:35] <SpAwN> soulrider, your root password is random
[01:35] <SpAwN> sudo su -
[01:35] <rr72> SpAwN~ what do u mean random?
[01:35] <rr72> for what?
[01:35] <rr72> for eT?
[01:36] <soulrider> OH NOES!
[01:36] <SpAwN> rr72, huh?
[01:36] <rr72> look who it is
[01:36] <rr72> ;)
[01:36] <soulrider> i cant open the console in ET here in linux
[01:36] <soulrider> because of my keyboard!
[01:36] <soulrider> oh noooooeeeeess!! :P
[01:36] <rr72> lol
[01:36] <SpAwN> soulrider, whys that?
[01:36] <rr72> off to dinner
[01:36] <soulrider> freaking tilde
[01:36] <rr72> peace out
[01:36] <rr72> haha
[01:36] <sk8kidk> no matter what I can't save a file under /etc/modprobe.d
[01:36] <rr72> i can
[01:36] <soulrider> bye bye!
[01:36] <soulrider> yea
[01:36] <soulrider> but your keyboard isnt in spanish :P
[01:36] <SpAwN> soulrider, try binding it
[01:36] <rr72> soulrider~
[01:36] <rr72> as u can see i can use ~
[01:37] <SpAwN> soulrider, ahhhh your right mine isnt
[01:37] <soulrider> what lang is your keyboard ?
[01:37] <SpAwN> english
[01:37] <soulrider> mine isnt
[01:37] <soulrider> thast why i dont ahve a tilde button
[01:37] <SpAwN> hmm
[01:37] <soulrider> and why you dont ahve  or 
[01:37] <SpAwN> hehe
[01:37] <cerda> can ping sites but internet doesnt work (firefox, kopete) anyone could help me???
[01:37] <dr_willis> Spaw
[01:37] <DarkAdmiral> NEED NEW KOPETE PACKAGE!!!!^^
[01:37] <SpAwN> dr_willis,
[01:38] <dr_willis> cerda,  your dns servers are not set right.
[01:38] <soulrider> cerda, i had the same problem today
[01:38] <soulrider> i just rebooted :P
[01:38] <sk8kidk> no matter what I can't save a file under /etc/modprobe.d
[01:38] <sk8kidk> :-|
[01:38] <SpAwN> sk8kidk, use sudo
[01:38] <sk8kidk> still it doesnt work
[01:38] <soulrider> whats the command to opent he console? so i can bind ti to another button
[01:38] <dr_willis> you mean the 'konsole' program?
[01:39] <soulrider> et opens and closes so muhc faster in linux than in windows, its amazing!
[01:39] <SpAwN> soulrider, let me look through my et config realy quick for u...see if i can find the bind
[01:39] <soulrider> no i meant console in ET :P
[01:39] <dr_willis> ok.
[01:39] <soulrider> k, thanks!
[01:39] <dr_willis> ya got no ` key eh?
[01:39] <soulrider> i rememebr i amde some really cool scripts for allt he voice commands in ET but i cant rememebr how to write them now
[01:39] <soulrider> i got `
[01:39] <soulrider> ....
[01:39] <soulrider> i do
[01:39] <dr_willis> try it :)
[01:40] <soulrider> just somewhere els elol
[01:40] <SpAwN> soulrider, bind ~ "toggleconsole"
[01:40] <soulrider> BRB
[01:40] <dr_willis> how does he type that if he cant get to the console?
[01:40] <SpAwN> dr_willis, very easy....edit the etconfig
[01:40] <SpAwN> so b4 the gamne loads it binded
[01:40] <soulrider> k, im gonna binf it to f8 :P
[01:41] <SpAwN> soulrider, the config is in~/.etwolf
[01:41] <dr_willis> bound :)
[01:41] <dr_willis> bind w 'unbindall'
[01:41] <dr_willis> :)
[01:41] <SpAwN> hehe
[01:42] <SpAwN> well im gonna go smoke a bowl.......ill bbiab
[01:42] <soulrider> bye
[01:42] <sk8kidk> when I try to save in Kate while in sudo it says "
[01:43] <sk8kidk> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/modprobe.d/bad_list.
[01:43] <sk8kidk> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[01:44] <lmosher> How do I find out more information when Adept says "BREAK" when I request an install?
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry, somebody knows where i can find gwenview plugins?
[01:44] <Gun_Smoke> Can I remove kubuntu desktop without damage to ubuntu?
[01:44] <gekko`> sk8kidk: if you do "kdesu kate <file>" you have write access.
[01:44] <lmosher> I.E. a guide is telling me o install this - why can't it?
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i kinda need a sharpening filter :)
[01:45] <soulrider> brb
[01:45] <greypaw> howdy......what would cause two programs, like Flash and Skype, not to be able to share sound?
[01:46] <greypaw> ive been searching everywhere, and gotten nowhere
[01:47] <crimsun> greypaw: Flash can be forced to use esd or alsa by means of nasty hacks. That's the best resolution currently.
[01:47] <greypaw> is there something better to use for flash than the regular flashplayer?
[01:48] <crimsun> greypaw: meaning the binary-only flashplugin-nonfree? No.
[01:49] <greypaw> but when im using skype, xmms cant output sound....its not just flash
[01:49] <greypaw> all are using ALSA
[01:49] <crimsun> are you using the latest skype beta that supports alsa natively?
[01:50] <greypaw> yes
[01:50] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Yes
[01:50] <Gun_Smoke> how?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> apt-gt remove kdelibs
[01:51] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech:  Thanks
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Or use adept and remove it
[01:51] <DaSkreech> I think that works better
[01:52] <DaSkreech> Pretty much gets rid of anything KDE based
[01:52] <greypaw> kubuntu is nice :)
[01:53] <DaSkreech> greypaw: I agree :)
[01:53] <Gun_Smoke> I toyed with it for a week or two, and being new to linux, I figured I just stay with Ubuntu until I get better with everything.
[01:53] <DaSkreech> THough it still has that aggravating keyboard bug
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Yeah Don't overwhelm yourself
[01:53] <greypaw> and....ive found.....Unreal Tournament 2004 runs twice as good on kubuntu as it does on Windows :D
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Really?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> That's fascinating
[01:54] <DaSkreech> How about UT2007? :-D
[01:54] <greypaw> its so much more responsive :-|
[01:54] <soulrider> i only tried ET for a few secs
[01:54] <soulrider> but in linux you can open adn close it
[01:54] <greypaw> and lucky me, WINE supports all my games just fine
[01:54] <soulrider> while it would still eb opening in widnwos
[01:54] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech:  So what is adept?
[01:54] <soulrider> Gun_Smoke:  adept can be used to install adn remove prgorams
[01:54] <soulrider> and liobraries and stuff like that
[01:55] <greypaw> very handy :p
[01:55] <Gun_Smoke> like like apt-get?
[01:55] <greypaw> though i just use apt :D
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Are you In Kubuntu now?
[01:55] <Gun_Smoke> no
[01:55] <soulrider> apt get i believe is command line adept
[01:55] <greypaw> apt-get and apt-cache = all youll ever need :D
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Then never mind :)
[01:55] <soulrider> Gun_Smoke: i installed kubunty yesterday and im loving it
[01:55] <greypaw> adept is gui apt ;)
[01:56] <Gun_Smoke> soulrider:  Yeah I didn't mind it.  But I'm having better luck with wider documentation on Ubuntu.  And I'm new to it all
[01:56] <greypaw> apt-cache search is the most handy thing ive ever used
[01:56] <asterus> i just can't configurate the f*cking net... i need help in configurating net for ubuntu. i need to configure my ethernet to work in 10 mbps without autonegotiate. i tried "ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 autoneg off" but in the it still not working with me. with command shall i use to know in what speed my ethernet is working?
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: sure. Most documentation that works under ubuntu works equally as well under Kubuntu
[01:59] <DaSkreech> asterus: What speed is it now?
[02:00] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech:  Yeah?  Well I'm still learning my way around ubuntu.. About a month or so ago when I first installed ubuntu for the first time a few people suggested that I try kubuntu, and xubuntu while I was still fresh.. I grabbed them both, and still find myself going back to ubuntu nearly always.  So I just figured I would get rid of both k & x and just stay with ubuntu for now.
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
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[02:01] <DaSkreech> asterus: ok Kool
[02:01] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech:  i ran what you suggested and i don't think it worked properly.  I'll send you a pastebin
 100 mbps my hub is detecting (is there and command in kubuntu that returns the speed)
[02:01] <asterus> ?
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: ok
[02:01] <lmosher> what's the apt-get command to install a .deb file by on my hard disk?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> lmosher: dpkg -i
[02:02] <lmosher> ty
[02:03] <lanius> test
[02:04] <asterus> ok
[02:04] <lanius> thx
[02:04] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech:  Get it
[02:04] <sk8kidk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19345 <<Any help?
[02:04] <bioticpro> Hi, anybody using kde 3.5.3, how do I fix the screensaver and powersave to work?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Not if you sent it. I don't see anything you can use this channel for it
[02:05] <Gun_Smoke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19346
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Try the kdelibs4c2a package
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Oh wait kdelibs-data
[02:09] <sk8kidk> So, no help for me?
[02:10] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech:  I found this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19347
[02:10] <Gun_Smoke> from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222754
[02:11] <Gun_Smoke> What do you think
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Sure that works as well :)
[02:11] <Gun_Smoke> muhaha
[02:11] <sk8kidk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19345 <<Any help?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> I take it you have a Xserver?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> what happens if you kate bad_list
[02:12] <sk8kidk> same thing
[02:13] <DaSkreech> You have a X server?
[02:13] <sk8kidk> i dont know what that is, so i guess not...
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Do you have a gui?
[02:13] <sk8kidk> KDE
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Yes are you logged into KDE?
[02:13] <sk8kidk> Yep
[02:13] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech is it ok to disable the root account for ?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: It's disaabled already
[02:14] <sk8kidk> before i typed the command I type "sudo -i"
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Ah.. so just checking why do you need kate?
[02:15] <OOD> sk8kidk: it's because you're running a root terminal
[02:15] <sk8kidk> disable IPv6
[02:15] <OOD> kdesu is asking for root privelages
[02:15] <sk8kidk> sooo what do I do?
[02:15] <OOD> you don't need them when you're logged in as root in the terminal
[02:15] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+D it sounds lke
[02:15] <OOD> don't log in as root
[02:15] <OOD> just start a normal terminal session
[02:15] <sk8kidk> im not logged in as root
[02:15] <OOD> you are
[02:15] <OOD> root@linux
[02:16] <OOD> you started a root terminal
[02:16] <OOD> session
[02:16] <sk8kidk> yeah but i typed "sudo -i", does that still count?
[02:16] <OOD> what was that for?
[02:16] <sk8kidk> nevermind, well okay im in a normal terminal session
[02:16] <sk8kidk> now
[02:17] <OOD> then just run the command normally
[02:17] <OOD> kdesu kate bad_list
[02:17] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech thanks for the info i thought i seen a root account somwhere on this thing might have been for the login thing
[02:19] <OOD> OOD: works now?
[02:19] <OOD> sk8kidk:works now? *
[02:19] <sk8kidk> haha, I feel really stupid for not trying that... Anyway, does anyone in here know what to put under bad_list to disable ipv6?
[02:19] <sk8kidk> it works
[02:20] <OOD> don't know about adding to bad_list, but this disables ipv6
[02:20] <OOD> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202838
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> Has anyone ever setup ipv6 here ? (using ipv6 in ipv4 transporting) and i6tables ? I wouldn't mind my server being accessible by ipv6
[02:22] <revrogue> mornin
[02:22] <sk8kidk> actually evening here...
[02:22] <revrogue> lol
[02:22] <revrogue> hey maybe someone can give me a hand
[02:22] <sk8kidk> shoot
[02:23] <sk8kidk> okay, whatever
[02:23] <revrogue> right now im using kubunt 64 on my laptop and I am unable to enable to the wireless adapter
[02:24] <soulrider> unable to enable... funny combination
[02:24] <revrogue> ?
[02:24] <revrogue> funny combo?
[02:24] <soulrider> i just thought it was funny
[02:24] <revrogue> o
[02:24] <soulrider> yea
[02:24] <soulrider> unable to enable
[02:24] <soulrider> sounds funny to me
[02:24] <soulrider> but im nuts
[02:24] <revrogue> hehe yeah
[02:24] <soulrider> so nevermind
[02:25] <revrogue> so no one with a solution to try?
[02:25] <soulrider> ah, i miss utorrent from widnows
[02:25] <soulrider> this mihgt sound retarded
[02:25] <OOD> soulrider: ktorrent 2.0 is pretty good
[02:25] <soulrider> but does it have a switch
[02:25] <soulrider> like a phisical switch
[02:25] <dr_willis> utorrent can run with wine, but i perfer ktorrent.
[02:25] <soulrider> i tried ktorrent adn i didnt like it
[02:25] <dr_willis> or rtorrent in a terminal
[02:25] <metalhedd> I'm having strange issues configuring my multimedia keyboatrd under kubuntu.  xev shows the correct keysym's (ie XF86AudioLowerVolume etc) but binding them to the global shortcuts for volume controls does nothing... also the mute key works perfectly but it's NOT configured as a global shortcut.  little help?
[02:25] <soulrider> using azureus ar the moment
[02:25] <levi_> how do i install vlc?
[02:25] <revrogue> yeah it does but i cant get it to work
[02:25] <dr_willis> whats to like or dislike.. ya give it a torrent and it downloads..
[02:25] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:25] <soulrider> options....
[02:25] <dr_willis> same as ya install anything else
[02:25] <levi_> not working
[02:26] <levi_> i just installed kubuntu
[02:26] <OOD> soulrider: then use wine to run it
[02:26] <soulrider> uhm, youre right, i could
[02:26] <levi_> dr_willis: i think i need the repository address
[02:26] <levi_> can someone give me an update source.lst?
[02:26] <soulrider> !easysource
[02:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:27] <levi_> thanks
[02:27] <levi_> anyone know anything about lilo?
[02:28] <metalhedd> how do I choose between gdm and kdm?
[02:28] <soulrider> uhm whats a legacy package ?
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> levi_: Why do you need lilo ?
[02:30] <rr72> levi_~ he is the chairman who runs pdpc he foundation behind freenode
[02:30] <Philip5> SpAwN: guess what... i'm running my e17 debs now :)
[02:31] <Philip5> on a fresh box
[02:31] <levi_> aha
[02:31] <levi_> h3sp4wn: i am dual booting
[02:31] <levi_> actually
[02:31] <levi_> h3sp4wn: i installed it because my grub broke
[02:32] <levi_> h3sp4wn: now i need to know how to load windows from it
[02:32] <metalhedd> How can my mute button work when its not assigned and none of the other media keys work when I assign them as shortcuts... I need some help.
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> Philip5: How did you build the e17 debs ?
[02:32] <sk8kidk> I bet i'm the millionth dumbass n00b to ask this, but...here goes....how do you install firefox on Kubuntu?
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> levi_: why not just reinstall grub ? its better
[02:32] <metalhedd> sk8kidk: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:32] <levi_> it didnt work
[02:32] <levi_> h3sp4wn: i tried it a bunch
[02:33] <levi_> h3sp4wn: kept on getting error 17
[02:33] <levi_> h3sp4wn: even on reinstall
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> sudo grubinstall /dev/hda
[02:33] <levi_> h3sp4wn: maybe i can right it now
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> sudo update-grub
[02:33] <levi_> h3sp4wn: hda even if its sata?
[02:33] <sk8kidk> it says to insert the Kubuntu Dapper Drake CD, is this the install CD?
[02:34] <Philip5> h3sp4wn: i build them as you build debs with dpkg-buildpackage
[02:34] <rr72> uncomment the cd as a source
[02:34] <rr72> *comment
[02:34] <sk8kidk> how..?
[02:35] <Philip5> SpAwN: are you there?
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> Philip5: Did you build them with pbuilder ?
[02:35] <sk8kidk> What do I do?
[02:35] <soulrider> spawn went to smoke
[02:35] <levi_> h3sp4wn: do i want to use sda instead?
[02:35] <soulrider> a bawl or bowl, whatever that is
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> levi_: If that is your disk yes
[02:35] <levi_>  ill try it now
[02:36] <Philip5> h3sp4wn: no
[02:36] <rr72> not sure what file but one of em in /etc
[02:36] <rr72> apt-sources  maybe
[02:36] <levi_> h3sp4wn: it took me to the GNU GRUB
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> levi_: But it did not install ?
[02:38] <levi_> not that i know of
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> run sudo grub-install /dev/sda (sorry I typed it wrong)
[02:39] <levi_> ok
[02:39] <levi_> that is better
[02:39] <levi_> says hd2 is /dev/sda
[02:39] <levi_> is there any editing i should do?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> Now run sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r`
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> then finally sudo update-grub (and you should see the installed kernels being added)
[02:40] <greypaw> i hate adobe/macromedia!
[02:41] <greypaw> they need to update the linux flashplayer :-|
[02:43] <Hawkwind> greypaw: Won't happen til after the first of the year
[02:43] <metalhedd> I can configure my multimedia keybhoard for the life of me... it seems like it should be working, kde lets me assign things like XF86AudioRaiseVolume etc, but it never executes the shortcuts
[02:43] <scabootssca> for some reason i turned on my computer and the internet dosnt work anymore.. any ideas why this might be?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> greypaw: Read Penguin.swf
[02:44] <levi_> h3sp4wn: with sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r' what should i do?
[02:44] <levi_> h3sp4wn: i must specify
[02:46] <SpAwN> phazeman, im back now
[02:46] <greypaw> :-|
[02:46] <SpAwN> * Philip5
[02:46] <Philip5> SpAwN: want some deb files? :)
[02:46] <SpAwN> sure
[02:46] <greypaw> my linux experience is not complete yet.
[02:46] <soulrider> SpAwN: youre back :)
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> levi_: sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r` (the last one was supposed to be a backtick also)
[02:47] <SpAwN> soulrider, i am
[02:47] <soulrider> how was the bowl? :P
[02:47] <soulrider> whatever that is :P
[02:47] <SpAwN> good
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: e17 is brilliant
[02:47] <sk8kidk> Flash player is installed, but theres no sound....
[02:47] <levi_> i need to specify a version
[02:47] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, its still a little buggy for me but yea if it gets done it will be superb
[02:47] <rr72>  ok im getting a weird thing
[02:47] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, u=ive used it on mandriva b4
[02:47] <rr72> my kubuntu is just locking up
[02:47] <rr72> its like linux to just lock up
[02:48] <sk8kidk> how do I get sound for flash player?
[02:48] <levi_> h3sp4wn: it is telling me I need to specify a version
[02:48] <SpAwN> i hate how azurues's error window thinggy doesnt close.......
[02:48] <rr72> sk8kidk~ does ur sound work for other applications?
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> levi_: just run uname -r
[02:48] <Hawkwind> !flash
[02:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:48] <Hawkwind> sk8kidk: ^^^^
[02:49] <Hawkwind> sk8kidk: All the info is there
[02:49] <soulrider> SpAwN: do you see an icon for azureus?
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> levi_: then sudo update-initramfs outputofuname-r
[02:49] <soulrider> i dont
[02:49] <levi_> ok
[02:49] <soulrider> it blends in my tray :-/
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> levi_: then sudo update-initramfs -k outputofuname-r
[02:49] <Philip5> SpAwN: so interested?
[02:49] <SpAwN> soulrider, no i start azureus by running /full/path/to/azureus....i dled it fromt their site
[02:49] <SpAwN> Philip5, yes. defiantly
[02:49] <sk8kidk> Crud, now my sound isnt working at all
[02:50] <levi_> h3sp4wn: not working
[02:50] <Philip5> SpAwN: the binaries are just about 12 mb so e17 is lightweight :)
[02:50] <levi_> h3sp4wn: still telling me to specify
[02:50] <SpAwN> Philip5, k what modules and stuff does it have?
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> levi_: just try sudo update-initramfs -k (no arguments)
[02:51] <levi_> same thing
[02:51] <levi_> is there not kontrol anymore?
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> kcontrol
[02:52] <wolfmanz> levi_ just type kcontrol into a console
[02:52] <DaSkreech> rr72_: Naked chef?
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> levi_: run sudo update-grub
[02:52] <levi_> ahhh
[02:52] <levi_> kcontrol
[02:52] <levi_> ok
[02:52] <rr72> DaSkreech~ what?
[02:52] <DaSkreech> Your enter mesg
[02:52] <levi_> ok
[02:53] <rr72> i have no enter msgs
[02:53] <levi_> how would i add my windows partition?
[02:53] <Philip5> SpAwN: did that work?
[02:53] <SpAwN> Philip5, nothing happened///////
[02:54] <levi_> its on there
[02:54] <levi_> i got it
[02:54] <Philip5> SpAwN: i tried to send you a notice but maybe i can't as i'm not registered
[02:54] <SpAwN> Philip5, thats it
[02:54] <DaSkreech> rr72_: Fine :)
[02:54] <SpAwN> Philip5, lets join #randomchannel
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> Philip5: Did you build engage ?
[02:56] <levi_> my audigy 2 is getting recognized
[02:56] <soulrider> im gonna go try ET out
[02:56] <Philip5> h3sp4wn: yes
[02:56] <soulrider> ttyl guys!
[02:56] <levi_> by the sound system
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> Philip5: For dapper ? someone in #ubuntu+1 is asking for it
[02:57] <Philip5> h3sp4wn: for dapper
[02:58] <rr72> soulrider~ i think its ur fault
[02:58] <rr72> im trying to dl ET still
[02:58] <rr72> it was locked up when i got home
[02:58] <SpAwN> rr72, do u do torrents?
[02:58] <rr72> so now im watching it carefully after a few restarts
[02:58] <rr72> SpAwN~ not on that computer on this computer
[02:58] <rr72> Azura or what ever its called
[02:59] <levi_> can anyone help with enabling my sound
[02:59] <levi_> ?
[02:59] <SpAwN> rr72, well id host its own torrent tracker
[02:59] <SpAwN> fast dls
[02:59] <rr72> too much bandwith
[02:59] <rr72> im getting 500 kb/s now which is good
[02:59] <bioticpro> Philip5: I was the one asking re E17, where can I find the debs for it that you buildt?
[03:00] <Kr4t05> rr72: there is never such a thing as too much bandwidth. :)
[03:00] <rr72> Kr4t05~ im saying it will hog too much bandwith
[03:00] <rr72> i use neough as it is
[03:00] <soulrider> err
[03:00] <Philip5> h3sp4wn: so far i have build these files of the E17 cvs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19351
[03:00] <soulrider> i tried to join a server and et crashed lol
[03:01] <SpAwN> soulrider, could just be 1st time it crashes
[03:01] <SpAwN> soulrider, did it spit out errors in the cli?
[03:01] <SpAwN> if not start the game by typing et in cli
[03:01] <Philip5> bioticpro: they are not public yet... the build is in testing but then the cvs build will be avalible at the SoS site
[03:01] <rr72> cli?
[03:01] <SpAwN> and if it crashes it should output a error
[03:01] <soulrider> ok
[03:01] <SpAwN> command line interface i think rr72
[03:01] <soulrider> how do i know what command i have to type to open a certain app
[03:01] <SpAwN> cli = command line ....i know that
[03:02] <rr72> e<tab>
[03:02] <rr72> ;)
[03:02] <SpAwN> soulrider, umm u could look in usr/bin
[03:02] <SpAwN> or what rr72 said works good
[03:02] <rr72> love tab complete
[03:02] <cpk2> soulrider: just use tab complete
[03:02] <rr72> SpAwN~ lol
[03:03] <cpk2> whenever i am not sure about a name i just spam tab
[03:03] <SpAwN> i use the auto compleation all the time...saves me tyign
[03:03] <SpAwN> *typing
[03:03] <rr72> aoto?
[03:03] <SpAwN> aoto?
[03:04] <rr72> auto*?
[03:04] <bioticpro> Philip5: my goal is having a docker in ubuntu like the OSX dock, so I was looking at either kxdocker 1.1.4a or Engage, what route do you recommend
[03:04] <bioticpro> ?
[03:04] <rr72> for nicks or prompt?
[03:05] <soulrider> sorry, wa on the phone
[03:05] <soulrider> what i mean was
[03:05] <Phantom784> i just burned kubuntu and booted it on my 800mhz 128mb ram machine with the first option (run/install, if I recall correctly).  the system booted very slowly and behaved very slowly in kde, until I had to turn it off.  is my computer too old for kubuntu, or am I doing something wrong?  i'm currently running fedora core 4, and it can boot knoppix, so i know it can handle linux
[03:05] <soulrider> how do you know what command will open an app
[03:05] <soulrider> like
[03:05] <Philip5> bioticpro: i think it's a matter of taste... to be frank i'm more into kde but this e17 build stuff is more for fun and learning... and bringing someting back to the communite
[03:05] <soulrider> if i type opera in console it will open opera
[03:05] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Right
[03:05] <cpk2> soulrider: sbin
[03:05] <rr72> opera lives in ur computer?
[03:05] <soulrider> but how di i know its oper ai gotta type and not somethign like operabrowser
[03:06] <soulrider> lol yea
[03:06] <soulrider> its a good example :P
[03:06] <rr72> u just know after a while
[03:06] <bioticpro> Philip5: if I want kxdocker, I will have to build it from source to get 1.1.4a
[03:06] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Tab :)
[03:06] <rr72> tab complete
[03:06] <rr72> wow i was the first one to tell u that
[03:06] <soulrider> even fi im not int he directory ?
[03:06] <rr72> yes
[03:06] <rr72> as long as its in bin
[03:06] <soulrider> ah
[03:06] <SpAwN> soulrider, goto a command line
[03:07] <SpAwN> soulrider, and hit tab like 5 times in a row
[03:07] <rr72> ur path i should say
[03:07] <SpAwN> it will ask to list...hit yes
[03:07] <apeman2020> I am looking for a good mail server... any ideas?
[03:07] <SpAwN> it will last EVERYTHING
[03:07] <soulrider> sweet
[03:07] <soulrider> k, brb
[03:08] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: It only takes hitting tab 2 times :P
[03:08] <Philip5> bioticpro: build it as debs then... it's easier to handle
[03:08] <soulrider> Sys_Error: Sys_LoadDll(ui) failed, no corresponding .so file found in fs_homepath or fs_basepath
[03:08] <Hawkwind> apeman2020: sendmail, postfix, qmail
[03:08] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, hehe well i wanted to make sure that it defiantly did
[03:08] <Philip5> Hawkwind: SpAwN is getting my debs no to try on his system :)
[03:08] <viper550> I just love that new Window Border you have on Kubuntu (and it's nice that the offical Crystal now has the Kubuntu buttons too!)
[03:09] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Beware of flying sparks :P
[03:09] <SpAwN> Philip5, they just finished dling
[03:09] <bioticpro> Philip5: I found a deb here http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?pid=9096#p9096
[03:09] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, lets hope not :P
[03:09] <soulrider> spawn, i get this:
[03:09] <soulrider> Sys_Error: Sys_LoadDll(ui) failed, no corresponding .so file found in fs_homepath or fs_basepath
[03:09] <rr72> soulrider~ what was that pack u installed to get it working?
[03:09] <SpAwN> soulrider, hmm
[03:09] <Philip5> SpAwN: i forgott to include my public key in that pack but i guess it wouldn't matter in this case :)
[03:10] <SpAwN> soulrider, id say redl from idsoft directly and make sure the dl is compleate
[03:10] <soulrider> it was
[03:10] <soulrider> libgtk1.2 i think
[03:10] <soulrider> when you isnatll et it checks the installer for errors
[03:11] <rr72> libgtk1.2 is already the newest version.
[03:12] <Hawkwind> rr72: libgtk1.2-dev
[03:12] <rr72> glibc-2.1 was the one right?
[03:12] <Hawkwind> You always need the -dev files when compiling things
[03:12] <soulrider> im gonna check if the patch was installed correctly
[03:12] <soulrider> 1.2
[03:12] <soulrider> not 2.1
[03:12] <rr72> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> apeman2020: I would use exim
[03:15] <soulrider> brb, need food
[03:16] <ubuntu> hello
[03:16] <apeman2020> hello enzo
[03:17] <enzo> I have just converted from winxp to Kubuntu via a friend's recommendation
[03:17] <enzo> I'm happy with his results
[03:17] <enzo> hellp apeman2020
[03:17] <enzo> *hello
[03:17] <bioticpro> Anyone else running 3.5.3 having issues with screen saver and powersave?
[03:18] <enzo> I am thinking about installing kubuntu on my laptop, but I don't know if I'd be able to do it
[03:18] <enzo> what are the min requirements?
[03:18] <timmi1> hi I'm sorry if this is the wrong place,but kubuntu seems to crash a lot when I'm now even using it ,i was wondering if there is some thing or an update i can do to fix this .I'm using edubuntu rite now and its great i have a AMD 64 3200 512 MB ram and a ATI readeon 9550 356 MB v-ram. thanks for you time!
[03:18] <rr72> soulrider~ i need to ask u somin
[03:18] <rr72> TALK TO ME
[03:18] <DaSkreech> timmi1: Some more information might help
[03:18] <rr72> ;0
[03:18] <rr72> :)
[03:18] <soulrider> sure
[03:18] <rr72> i thought u were eating
[03:19] <soulrider> sorry was watching the BBC :P
[03:19] <soulrider> and i am
[03:19] <rr72> did u get this error: The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1?
[03:19] <soulrider> nope
[03:19] <timmi1> daskreech what would you like to know,please let me know
[03:20] <enzo> is there a way of finding out the minimum requirements for installing Kubuntu on a laptop?
[03:20] <rr72> what error again?
[03:20] <timmi1> enzo use google i find it can help
[03:20] <DaSkreech> timmi1: Well more about the crashes. What happens when do they happen>
[03:20] <soulrider> i cant remember, sorry
[03:21] <rr72> i will find out
[03:21] <rr72> ill just scroll u pfor ur pastbin link ;)
[03:21] <soulrider> lol, good idea
[03:21] <mottz> should a raid 1 swap partition be a super block?
[03:22] <timmi1> i cant use the mouse the only thing i can do is press the restart button,i got the CD from the web site,even the CD burnt seems useless
[03:23] <timmi1> what could the the culprite
[03:24] <timmi1> be*
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Ah The infamous keyboard bug :()
[03:25] <DaSkreech> timmi1: Live CD?
[03:25] <timmi1> Am i in the wrong place?
[03:25] <timmi1> yeh live cd version 66.06 lts
[03:25] <timmi1> sorry version 6.06 LTS for 64 bit pc
[03:25] <DaSkreech> Not sure if it works in that version but you can just log out and log back in
[03:26] <DaSkreech> No need to restart
[03:26] <timmi1> but it wont respond every thing freezes
[03:27] <soulrider> brb
[03:27] <jerre> i have installed firefox in kubuntu. i could browse the net using konqueror but not thru firefox
[03:27] <rr72> ill just use history in my browser
[03:30] <soulrider> use Opera =D
[03:30] <timmi1> so ill try and up date it hopefully ,it wont freeze wile updating thanks for your help
[03:30] <rr72> soulrider~ i use her in windows
[03:30] <timmi1> i love opera its a dream to use
[03:30] <soulrider> opera is the best thing ever
[03:30] <timmi1> yep
[03:31] <timmi1> thanks for your help guys bye.
[03:31] <soulrider> i gotta learn to use the cline a lot more
[03:32] <rr72> cline?
[03:32] <soulrider> commadn line
[03:32] <rr72> oh
[03:32] <rr72> wtf my FF browser isnt even starting up
[03:37] <puttz> hello
[03:37] <puttz> some one from swe??
[03:38] <puttz> hoho .. some one from swe here ?
[03:38] <DaSkreech> !sw
[03:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about sw - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Drat
[03:38] <DaSkreech> What's Sweden?
[03:38] <puttz> haha ..
[03:38] <soulrider> lol
[03:39] <puttz> can some one help me ?
[03:39] <puttz> i a noob on linux
[03:39] <soulrider> aMD buys ATI
[03:39] <puttz> some one from swe ???
[03:39] <Dasnipa> soulrider, old news
[03:40] <puttz> some one from swe?
[03:40] <puttz> lol SpAwN :P
[03:40] <soulrider> ok :P
[03:40] <SpAwN> puttz, ?
[03:40] <puttz> yea
[03:41] <puttz> SpAwN swe ?
[03:41] <SpAwN> puttz, nope USA
[03:41] <puttz> ok
[03:41] <puttz> can you help me ?
[03:41] <SpAwN> i can try
[03:41] <puttz> ok
[03:41] <SpAwN> state your problem
[03:42] <puttz> this is my first time i use linux so i need some one who can tell me how i can use my harddisk and more
[03:42] <SpAwN> puttz, what are u trying to do?
[03:43] <puttz> find my harddisk so i can istall programs on it .. i have 2 harddisk
[03:43] <puttz> or one but i have a portion
[03:43] <SpAwN> puttz, and where is linux installed to?
[03:44] <puttz> hmm .. one the first ..
[03:44] <puttz> =/
[03:44] <Lipe_pe_ipls> Hi, i need some help with the Ubuntu 6.06. I've a eth0 and a eth1, but my eth1 isn't working... With the comma. "ifup eth1" it says that " Failed to bring up eth1". What can i make to resolve that ? Please ...
[03:45] <SpAwN> puttz, mount might help you
[03:45] <puttz> i have one portion whit 5gb and one whit 75bg and linux is one 5gb
[03:45] <SpAwN> puntsok, or fdisk -l
[03:45] <puttz> ok
[03:45] <SpAwN> puttz, linux should be able to see the other hdd with no problems
[03:46] <SpAwN> puttz, somtimes they will be in /mnt/ or /mdeia
[03:46] <Lipe_pe_ipls> Hi, i need some help with the Ubuntu 6.06. I've a eth0 and a eth1, but my eth1 isn't working... With the comma. "ifup eth1" it says that " Failed to bring up eth1". What can i make to resolve that ? Please ...
[03:47] <puttz> thanks ill try
[03:47] <easynintendo> can someone help me with nvidia drivers and restricted formats/dvd install? and also is KDE 3.5.3 in the repositories?
[03:47] <SpAwN> puttz, no problme
[03:55] <rsosborn> Hi all!
[03:55] <rsosborn> Need just a little help if possible
[03:56] <rsosborn> How to I add muliple users to proftp
[03:56] <rsosborn> just use comma , or semicolin ; ?
[03:58] <rsosborn> Does anyone know proftp here?
[03:59] <rr72> soulrider~ so what pack di du install? was it from apt-get?
[03:59] <soulrider> libgtk1.2
[04:00] <soulrider> im gonna re downlaod ET
[04:00] <puttz> i'm a noob at linux
[04:00] <soulrider> how can i uninstall et?
[04:00] <puttz> =/
[04:00] <soulrider> welcome to my world
[04:00] <soulrider> i installed it yesterday lol
[04:00] <rsosborn> lol
[04:00] <rsosborn> hahaha
[04:00] <puttz> hehe
[04:00] <soulrider> but i REALLY like it
[04:00] <rsosborn> I'm noob too but starting to come along
[04:00] <puttz> i install it today
[04:00] <soulrider> yes
[04:01] <soulrider> i mean, seriously, i allways used windows, but afteer you start to learnt he basics in linux
[04:01] <soulrider> you lvoe it
[04:01] <rsosborn> ya, it works and its all free
[04:01] <puttz> ok =/ not me i dont understand annything
[04:01] <soulrider> rr72: how can i uninstall ET?
[04:01] <rsosborn> puttz what are you trying to set up in linux?
[04:01] <soulrider> yesterday i didnt either
[04:01] <rsosborn> or just using for heck of it
[04:01] <soulrider> but you can slowly learn
[04:02] <puttz> i dont know how i can find my hardisk
[04:02] <rr72> soulrider~ why u going to redl it?
[04:02] <soulrider> puttz: this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community can help you a lot
[04:02] <soulrider> i get some strange error when i join a server
[04:02] <rsosborn> are you using gnome or kde
[04:02] <soulrider> sais it cant find i dont knwo what file
[04:02] <puttz> tanks
[04:02] <rr72> i don't know how to uninstall
[04:03] <rr72> i know how to install
[04:03] <rsosborn> if kde there should a computer icon at the bottom left that says "system menu"
[04:03] <rsosborn> then storage media would be the root
[04:05] <diogo_> hi all
[04:05] <diogo_> anyone knows how to refresh the kde panel?
[04:05] <abattoir> diogo_: 'killall kicker && kicker'
[04:05] <abattoir> diogo_: or 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Or....
[04:05] <Hawkwind> :P
[04:07] <bobbyyu> My Kubuntu is acting up again
[04:07] <bobbyyu> It takes a long time to read from a floppy disk
[04:07] <diogo_> Hawkwind, do you know how?
[04:07] <bobbyyu> Sometimes it goes forever
[04:07] <Hawkwind> diogo_: abattoir just told you how
[04:08] <abattoir> diogo_: press Alt+F2, and enter those commands....
[04:08] <rsosborn> Does anyone know pfoftp?
[04:08] <rsosborn> I got just a simple question
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> what is the question ?
[04:09] <abattoir> diogo_: altrenatively you can open up a terminal/konsole and enter those commands
[04:09] <Hawkwind> rsosborn: Just ask
[04:09] <rsosborn> I'm trying to add multiple ftp users
[04:09] <diogo_> i'm sorry abattoir, that seemed like a prank, thanks
[04:09] <rsosborn> how to I add a second user
[04:09] <rsosborn> with a comma?
[04:09] <soulrider> damn, i opened ET
[04:09] <soulrider> and my screen went completelly black
[04:09] <soulrider> and it kinda lcoked up
[04:09] <soulrider> i didnt know how to get back to my desktop so i just pressed ctrl alt backspace: P
[04:10] <rr72> u reset X seerver taht way
[04:10] <soulrider> yea
[04:10] <soulrider> but i didnt know another way of comming back here
[04:10] <pk0nink> gaa, i'm even playing a dvd+r i made with dvdshrink, but i cant get the DDO game disk to get recognized
[04:10] <rr72> alt-shift-F7
[04:10] <rsosborn> hawkwind: Anyhelp?
[04:10] <diogo_> still i can't get to work what I wanted: i installed some apps that should appear on the K menu, but they don't, do i really need to restart x?
[04:10] <soulrider> no
[04:11] <soulrider> do this
[04:11] <soulrider> right clicka nd then hit edit menu
[04:11] <soulrider> now a new window will appear
[04:11] <soulrider> click on the save icon
[04:11] <soulrider> and close it
[04:11] <Hawkwind> diogo_: I've never really used proftpd.  Might check their website or google for adding users to proftpd
[04:11] <soulrider> you kmenu will be updated
[04:11] <soulrider> Hawkwind: how can i uninstall somehting ?
[04:11] <rsosborn> ya tried
[04:12] <rsosborn> thanks though
[04:12] <rr72> soulrider~ i get a segmentation fault and only that when i install ET
[04:12] <soulrider> yes, ia dh that
[04:12] <soulrider> i opened adept and installed libgtk1.2
[04:12] <soulrider> that corrected it
[04:12] <rr72> i don't get that error tho
[04:12] <soulrider> whatd oy ou get
[04:12] <rr72> same but w/o line 5 on ur pastebin
[04:13] <soulrider> link ?
[04:13] <rr72> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19342
[04:13] <Hawkwind> soulrider: sudo apt-get remove
[04:14] <soulrider> but i didn tinstall it through adept
[04:14] <Hawkwind> How did you install it ?
[04:14] <diogo_> Hawkwind, i think you got it wrong, i'm not even sure what proftpd is
[04:14] <soulrider> rr72 http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/index.html#glibc
[04:14] <Hawkwind> diogo_: You asked about proftpd did you not ?
[04:14] <soulrider> i downlaoded the .run file
[04:14] <soulrider> and did a sudo ./ name fo the file
[04:15] <diogo_> no
[04:15] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Then delete the files/folders it created
[04:15] <Kr4t05> soulrider: sudo sh file
[04:15] <diogo_> it's just i've installed some apps, and i wanted to refresh K menu in order for the app lauchers to appear
[04:16] <rr72> soulrider~ i know how to install and compile stuff, do u know how to build a kernel?
[04:16] <soulrider> no idea lol
[04:16] <rr72> building kernels is not fun
[04:16] <soulrider> i just insatlled yesterday :P
[04:16] <rr72> don't try it
[04:16] <rr72> ur doing very well
[04:17] <soulrider> ^_^
[04:17] <soulrider> thanks Hawkwind
[04:17] <diogo_> never did it either, always smelled like confusing trouble to me
[04:18] <soulrider> i tried to delete but i geta ccess denied
[04:18] <soulrider> do i have to chmod it ?
[04:18] <diogo_> well no answer, I guess restart is the thing to do :p
[04:18] <diogo_> i'll cya later
[04:18] <rr72> now i have to dl to this computer and ftp via ssh and then hope it all works
[04:18] <rr72> u need to sudo?
[04:18] <rr72> sudo rm <file>
[04:19] <rr72> or sudo rm -fr <dir>
[04:19] <rr72> be carefull with the latter
[04:19] <soulrider> i removed the installation file :-/
[04:19] <rr72> u need to remove where ever u installed it to
[04:19] <wolfmanz> is there a grphical front end for gnupg that comes with kubuntu if so whats it called?
[04:20] <abattoir> wolfmanz: kpgp i think
[04:20] <soulrider> i chose default, im guessing everything went to my home folder
[04:20] <abattoir> wolfmanz: wait, i'll give you the right name
[04:20] <soulrider> but im not sure aobut /bin/
[04:20] <rr72> coulda gone to /usr/local/games
[04:21] <soulrider> i see the folder in home
[04:21] <abattoir> wolfmanz: kgpg it is
[04:21] <soulrider> and its there too :-/
[04:21] <rr72> lol a double install
[04:21] <soulrider> it wont let me delete the folde rin home
[04:21] <soulrider> weird, i ddint change the patch
[04:22] <soulrider> and only installed once
[04:22] <wolfmanz> abattoir thats installed under a standard install of kubuntu?
[04:22] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in
[04:22] <bl3ssing> ?
[04:22] <abattoir> wolfmanz: i'm not sure, its a part of kdeutils...
[04:22] <abattoir> wolfmanz: many packages in kdeutils are not installed...
[04:23] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya i'm starting to see that
[04:23] <soulrider> how can i know where allt he files went
[04:23] <soulrider> or do i have to downlado the install package again ?
[04:24] <soulrider> frigging azureus error widnow
[04:24] <soulrider> it wont go away!
[04:26] <soulrider> isnt there a way to close it ?
[04:29] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in?
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> !info phpmyadmin
[04:29] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> !universe
[04:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:30] <soulrider> h3sp4wn: you were havign trouble with azureus and the popup right?
[04:30] <soulrider> or was it someone else ?
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: definately not me I use rtorrent on the occasion I need to use torrents
[04:31] <soulrider> theres a horrible popup that wont go away
[04:31] <soulrider> and ii dont know how to close it
[04:31] <soulrider> or close azureus
[04:31] <soulrider> its blocking my tray :-/
[04:31] <soulrider> usign ksysguard ?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Uninstall IE
[04:32] <rr72> soulrider~ same error after i install that .run file from the ftp server
[04:32] <soulrider> at what speed did you downlaod it? O.O
[04:32] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in
[04:33] <bl3ssing> ?
[04:33] <bl3ssing> nobody's answering me ... :(
[04:33] <soulrider> bl3ssing: cant you isnatll from adept ?
[04:33] <soulrider> ewhat type of file is it ?
[04:33] <bl3ssing> nope
[04:33] <soulrider> or is it separate files
[04:33] <bl3ssing> adept has an older version.
[04:33] <bl3ssing> I want to install it from the konsole command, soulrider
[04:33] <soulrider> did you update adept?
[04:33] <bl3ssing> yes soulrider
[04:33] <soulrider> how amny files is it ?
[04:33] <soulrider> only one or many ?
[04:34] <unix_infidel> can you get wpa_supplicant to automagically associate to predefined non-encrypted networks>
[04:34] <soulrider> ahng on, ig otta do somehtign about azureus
[04:34] <soulrider> BRB
[04:34] <bl3ssing> in firefox directory there's more. I've just unarchived the firefox.tar.gz file ...
[04:34] <iNick> do y'all mind if I ask a xubuntu question here?
[04:34] <bl3ssing> azureus is really bad soulrider  ...
[04:34] <soulrider> cant you just run it then ?
[04:34] <soulrider> without installing ?
[04:35] <soulrider> i know....
[04:35] <rr72> soulrider~ im just going to forget about ET
[04:35] <bl3ssing> it is helpfull in many things, but ... occupying to many resources.
[04:35] <soulrider> but isnt ktorrent worse? :-/
[04:35] <rr72> going to remove everything
[04:35] <bl3ssing> I can install it. But how? :D
[04:35] <soulrider> i know that if its a deb file
[04:36] <gekko`> rr72: why are you removing ET? :(
[04:36] <soulrider> you can right clicka nd hit on install =D
[04:36] <gekko`> it's a nice game
[04:36] <soulrider> but if its many files, maybe you dont need to install
[04:36] <rr72> gekko`~ cuase it didnt install
[04:36] <soulrider> he cant get past the isnatll screen :P
[04:36] <gekko`> rr72: what was the problem?
[04:36] <soulrider> gekko`:  mine wont let me join servers
[04:36] <soulrider> it chrashes
[04:36] <rr72> i got it installed on SuSE but kubuntu doesnt like it
[04:36] <soulrider> crashes*
[04:36] <rr72> and SuSE only sort of likes it
[04:36] <soulrider> ill BRB
[04:37] <gekko`> soulrider: did you install the patch v2.60?
[04:37] <rr72> im just removing quake engine
[04:37] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in? CAN ANYBODY HELP ME PLEASE? I have this problems since days ago, and ... still HERE! Can't believe it. I don't know how to install a file from command konsole. :(((((( Uaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... Mammmyyyyyy :D
[04:38] <soulrider> sorry, what did you ask me before i went ?
[04:38] <gekko`> did you install the patch v2.60?
[04:38] <easynintendo> is kde 3.5.3 in the kubuntu repositories?
[04:38] <soulrider> ah
[04:38] <soulrider> i installed 56 i think :-/
[04:38] <gekko`> soulrider: that's ok but you need the patch too
[04:38] <unix_infidel> anyone for my wireless association scripts question?
[04:39] <soulrider> yes i think i got the latest patch
[04:39] <gekko`> bl3ssing: why no apt-get install firefox?
[04:39] <rr72> gekko`~ i can't frigkkin install it
[04:39] <gekko`> soulrider: did you apply it?
[04:39] <soulrider> uhm yes, i installed it
[04:39] <gekko`> rr72: what's the error message?
[04:39] <rr72> same as soulrider's
[04:39] <soulrider> and its showing the updated version in game
[04:39] <rr72> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19342
[04:39] <soulrider> but when i try to join as erver
[04:39] <soulrider> game crashes adn sais i dont have i dont knwo what file
[04:40] <rr72> but w/o line 5
[04:41] <soulrider> ktorrent is gone :-/
[04:41] <iNick> offers for FreeNX help will be accepted here!
[04:41] <easynintendo> !kde 3.5.3
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde 3.5.3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:41] <easynintendo> well crap
[04:42] <easynintendo> is KDE 3.5.3 in the repositories!?
[04:43] <gekko`> soulrider: can you give the exact error message?
[04:44] <gekko`> rr72: w/o line 5 but everything same in that error message?
[04:44] <bl3ssing> gekko`, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19360
[04:44] <rr72> xept for user name
[04:44] <rr72> and host
[04:44] <rr72> and line 005
[04:44] <easynintendo> !mp3
[04:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:45] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: KDE 3.5.4 is out now and yes 3.5.3 is in the repos
[04:45] <gekko`> bl3ssing: don't forget sudo
[04:45] <easynintendo> ok is 3.5.4 in the repos?
[04:45] <easynintendo> its not in the list in adept nor is 3.5.3
[04:45] <easynintendo> :(
[04:45] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: I don't think so.  Just in testing repos
[04:45] <easynintendo> 3.5.3 isnt in the repos in adept
[04:45] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: 3.5.3 is in multiverse or main I'm sure
[04:45] <easynintendo> is there something i have to do to add it?
[04:46] <gekko`> rr72: but you have libgtk, right?
[04:46] <rr72> yeah that error doesnt come up
[04:46] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main  <~~Add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:46] <soulrider> i need osme hlp with ktorrent
[04:46] <soulrider> i satarted dling with azureus
[04:46] <easynintendo> hawk, how bout for 3.5.3?
[04:46] <soulrider> and now with ktorrent
[04:46] <easynintendo> and how do i add it?
[04:47] <soulrider> but it wont resume
[04:47] <easynintendo> im very new to linux
[04:47] <easynintendo> is 3.5.4 stable?
[04:47] <abattoir> hmmm, easynintendo is back.....
[04:47] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: I just told you, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add that line
[04:47] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yeah.  Time to click ignore
[04:47] <easynintendo> i dont know how to edit a file
[04:47] <rr72> nintendo was easy
[04:47] <rr72> i beat every lvl
[04:48] <rr72> for every game
[04:48] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: Then learn.  sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:48] <Hawkwind> rr72: Right, offtopic
[04:48] <Dasnipa> liar
[04:48] <bl3ssing> done it! but it didn't install my new files (firefox 2.5) but firefox 1.0.8. why?
[04:48] <Hawkwind> 2.5, no such thing :P
[04:49] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[04:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <easynintendo> ok i added the surce hawk
[04:49] <easynintendo> and now how do i upgrade?
[04:49] <gekko`> bl3ssing: are you using breezy?
[04:50] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:50] <bl3ssing> nope
[04:50] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: Surely you know how to use apt-get by now as many times as you've been in here
[04:50] <bl3ssing> I've just unpackaged my firefox.tar.gz ...
[04:50] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: Why ?
[04:50] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: It's in main, just apt-get it
[04:50] <wckdkl0wn> bl3ssing: just do sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> !ndiswrapper
[04:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:50] <bl3ssing> Hawkwind, how?
[04:51] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: You were just told by wckdkl0wn, sudo apt-get install firefox or even sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:51] <wckdkl0wn> bl3ssing: in terminal
[04:51] <bl3ssing> wckdkl0wn (where's this nickname come from anyway? :D), already done it. But it is isntalling something else ... it is taking the operatiing system files, not MINE!
[04:52] <bl3ssing> terminal means konsole? wckdkl0wn ?
[04:52] <soulrider> ktorrent wont even connect tot he tracker :-/
[04:52] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: apt-get will not install .tar.gz files
[04:52] <soulrider> yes bl3ssing
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> !lamp
[04:52] <bl3ssing> gekko`, NOPE! How can I use a breeze than?
[04:52] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:52] <wckdkl0wn> bl3ssing: yea konsole
[04:52] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: apt-get is the Ubuntu package manager.  It installs things from online repositories
[04:52] <bl3ssing> aha
[04:52] <bl3ssing> and how can I get online repositories Hawkwind ?
[04:52] <Hawkwind> !easysource
[04:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:52] <rr72> or virtual terminal such as tty1 or what ever one
[04:52] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: ^^^^ read that about easysource
[04:53] <Hawkwind> rr72: tty1 is taken by default
[04:53] <bl3ssing> where Hawkwind ?
[04:53] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: Where what ?
[04:53] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: Read what ubotu just said about easysource
[04:53] <bl3ssing> where to read about easysource?
[04:53] <wckdkl0wn> bl3ssing: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:53] <Hawkwind>  {-Hawkwind-}   !easysource
[04:53] <Hawkwind> <-(  ubotu  )->   source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:54] <Hawkwind> bl3ssing: Read your screen d00d
[04:54] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[04:54] <bl3ssing> LOL
[04:54] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Is it a full moon tonight or what
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Heh
[04:54] <demodza> Say hi for every body
[04:54] <bl3ssing> cool guys. I'm ready my screen (but ... nothing saying (maybe's hybernating))! :D
[04:54] <abattoir> Hawkwind: :P
[04:54] <wckdkl0wn> Hawkwind: lost cause?
[04:54] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Seems so
[04:54] <demodza> 
[04:55] <wckdkl0wn> bet he understands ^^^ though
[04:55] <bimberi> !conduct
[04:55] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:55] <abattoir> demodza: no thai here, please
[04:56] <demodza> Please help me....
[04:56] <Hawkwind> demodza: With ?
[04:56] <demodza> How to set FTPServer on KUBUNTU
[04:56] <easynintendo> !mp3
[04:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <wckdkl0wn> what is linux's equivilant to outlook express?
[04:57] <bl3ssing> guys ... I've ready that website ... Nothing in my HEAD! :D
[04:58] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: There are many
[04:58] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: hmmm, you can try thunderbird... kontact is more like outlook
[04:58] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: thunderbird, kmail, sylpheed, sylpheed claws
[04:58] <wckdkl0wn> which would you all recommend as first one of choice?
[04:59] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Gmail :P
[04:59] <abattoir> hehe
[04:59] <wckdkl0wn> already have a gmail account lol
[04:59] <wckdkl0wn> but i want to be able to download my comcast mail to my desktop
[04:59] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Then stick with it.  It's the best thing since roasted duck
[04:59] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: kmail already comes installed
[04:59] <abattoir> wckdkl0wn: so it could be your first try....
[04:59] <Hawkwind> wckdkl0wn: Try several that we mentoined and see what *you* like best
[05:02] <easynintendo> does the !mp3 links from the bot apply to amarok also? the page says totem and rythmbox
[05:02] <easynintendo> i need restricted format support in amarok
[05:02] <easynintendo> :(
[05:03] <wckdkl0wn> just download xmms and call it a day
[05:03] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[05:12] <soulrider> how can i minimize somethign to tray ?
[05:13] <bl3ssing> how can I find new repository net addresses where I could download the newest up to date files?
[05:13] <wckdkl0wn> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:13] <supernix> Help does anyone know how I can get programs from the repository or make a copy of the repository?
[05:13] <abattoir> soulrider: could you explain what you need?
[05:13] <soulrider> iahve ktorrent
[05:13] <bl3ssing> supernix ... which OS Linux do you use?
[05:13] <soulrider> adn i wanna minimize it next tot he clock
[05:14] <supernix> Kubuntu
[05:14] <wckdkl0wn> just hit the x
[05:14] <wckdkl0wn> it will put it in the tray
[05:14] <soulrider> like when you hit    X     on konversation
[05:14] <abattoir> supernix: look at the link above your question
[05:14] <soulrider> no, it will close
[05:14] <wckdkl0wn> i run ktorrent all the time
[05:14] <soulrider> mine closes :-/
[05:14] <wckdkl0wn> check the settings then
[05:14] <bl3ssing> supernix:  follow this:      KMenu -> System -> Adept.
[05:14] <wckdkl0wn> there might be an option for tray on close
[05:15] <supernix> I see a link to source 0 matic but wouldnt that only update your source list ?
[05:15] <soulrider> done
[05:15] <abattoir> supernix: no, you get a new one
[05:15] <soulrider> there was a show system tray icon
[05:15] <soulrider> thanks!
[05:15] <wckdkl0wn> np
[05:15] <bl3ssing> supernix. to the quick filter, type any program you want and ... press un commit changes button ...
[05:16] <supernix> ty
[05:16] <supernix> I know how to download them once connected but there are several PCs that I want to update and add programs for but they have no net access at this time
[05:16] <wckdkl0wn> is there a linux version of bitcomet?
[05:16] <supernix> even worse one has a dialup
[05:16] <supernix> that I have yet to get working which doubles my trouble
[05:17] <soulrider> no, theres not
[05:17] <soulrider> i wish there was
[05:17] <supernix> wckdkl0wn: look for Ktorrent in the internet section of your menu
[05:18] <wckdkl0wn> i use ktorrent
[05:18] <rsosborn> question, I have apache2 server with webmin I have one successful sever running and want to create a second virtual server to host to sites
[05:18] <bl3ssing> yahve torrent ... wckdkl0wn
[05:18] <bl3ssing> :)
[05:18] <wckdkl0wn> i was asking about bitcomet and if there was a version for linux since that is what i used in windows
[05:18] <supernix> LOL I see bitcomet not torent my bad
[05:18] <soulrider> nope, adn there sno utorrent version either :(
[05:18] <rsosborn> I created the second server and can't figure out how to direct my domain through no-ip.com to the virtual server
[05:18] <rsosborn> instead it resolves to my orginal server
[05:18] <rsosborn> any ideas?
[05:19] <bl3ssing> how can I open my source list?
[05:19] <lipe_ipls> someone can please, tell me how can i change my sound card in the configuration ????????
[05:20] <wckdkl0wn> bl3ssing: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list in konsole
[05:20] <bl3ssing> lipe_ipls, KMEnu -M System Seetings -> Sound and Multimedia -> Hardware tab ...
[05:21] <wckdkl0wn> i wonder if i was to run bitcomet with wine if it would lose any usefulness
[05:22] <bl3ssing> wckdkl0wn, I'm a root and I typed: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list which brought me this error: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <bl3ssing> kate: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[05:23] <wckdkl0wn> go in to adept manager
[05:23] <wckdkl0wn> and edit with that
[05:24] <wckdkl0wn> its in one of the menus
[05:25] <wckdkl0wn> give me a min to finish updating with adept and i will find out which one exactly
[05:25] <bl3ssing> wckdkl0wn, I give you 1 min + 1 sec. :D :)))
[05:25] <bl3ssing> no problem. I'll be waiting ... with a cup of cold icetea.
[05:25] <wckdkl0wn> probably gonna take longer then that since i am updating 163 files lol
[05:27] <lipe_ipls> thank u bl3ssing
[05:27] <jewels9321> i use kubuntu but want some different games..... is it okay to go to sites like http://www.blackholesun.com to download games? or will that mess up everything?
[05:28] <TehKewl1> how do I get an apache server online?
[05:29] <jewels9321> how about http://freshmeat.net??
[05:30] <user_> i got a question
[05:30] <ftwiiner> windows can open anymore
[05:30] <ftwiiner> help me
[05:31] <ftwiiner> how do i update the os_
[05:32] <bioticpro> Hey all, administrator mode in "System Settings" often doesn't come up, like now, can someone help me fix this?
[05:33] <draik> ftwiiner, windows can or canNOT open?
[05:34] <bioticpro> Also can't start Adept...
[05:35] <bioticpro> Adept just started, took a couple tries to launch it
[05:36] <ftwiiner> cannot
[05:37] <draik> what was the last thing you did that killed it?
[05:37] <ftwiiner> uninstal kubuntu
[05:38] <draik> oh, ok
[05:38] <draik> easy fix
[05:38] <draik> let me get this right
[05:38] <ftwiiner> then i installed again
[05:38] <draik> you uninstalled kubuntu and want to boot into windoze but can't, right?
[05:38] <ftwiiner> it says its missing sumthing
[05:38] <ftwiiner> yep thats it
[05:38] <draik> do you have your windoze cd?
[05:39] <draik> or a bootable win 98 floppy?
[05:39] <ftwiiner> :( noo
[05:39] <draik> its ok
[05:39] <draik> you can download it
[05:39] <draik> do you have a floppy you can use?
[05:39] <ftwiiner> yup
[05:39] <draik> k
[05:39] <draik> good
[05:39] <draik> give me a sec and I will find you the link to the download
[05:39] <ftwiiner> wut about my windows files do i have to reformat_
[05:40] <kana> ftwiiner: nope you need to recover the MBR
[05:40] <wckdkl0wn> bl3ssing: its under the view menu
[05:40] <draik> here you go
[05:40] <draik> http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[05:40] <ftwiiner> quick question about kubuntu? is there a app to update everything?
[05:40] <draik> once you get into it, at the command prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' and that will do it for you
[05:41] <draik> 'apt-get install update' for kubuntu updates
[05:41] <kana> ftwiiner: yap adept or update-notifier
[05:41] <wckdkl0wn> how do i install this file?  Azureus_2.4.0.2_linux.tar.bz2
[05:41] <rddawg> anyone able to get vmplayer working on dapper?
[05:41] <kana> draik: do he need to install update package? you seem more knowledgable in that
[05:42] <rddawg> I get an X windows error
[05:42] <ftwiiner> where do i find those..i'm kinda new
[05:42] <draik> kana, update what package?
[05:42] <kana> you said apt-get install update
[05:42] <flaccid___> wckdkl0wn: extract it and follow the readme file in it
[05:42] <draik> that's to update the packages
[05:42] <kana> i assumed update is a package
[05:42] <draik> only those that have an update available, of course
[05:42] <wckdkl0wn> how do i extract it?
[05:42] <kana> draik: isn't it apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <ftwiiner> draik wut do i have to download at that page?
[05:43] <flaccid> wckdkl0wn: try double clicking it if you are in x
[05:43] <soulrider> im goign to ebd guys
[05:43] <soulrider> see ya tomorrow!!
[05:44] <scabootssca_> ok for no reason my internet stopped working i have adsl it worked last night but today it dosnt
[05:44] <draik> kana, you're right sorry
[05:44] <draik> ftwiiner, you want the 98 OEM mirror 1
[05:45] <kana> draik: i though i was missing something :) I make tons of mistakes myself :)
[05:45] <draik> thanks kana for catching that one
[05:45] <kana> :)
[05:45] <ftwiiner> i use xp sp 2
[05:46] <draik> that's fine ftwiiner
[05:46] <draik> you just need a dos prompt
[05:46] <draik> and the fdisk tool
[05:46] <draik> and that will have it for you
[05:46] <kana> ftwiiner: do you want to give kubuntu another go :)
[05:46] <kana> now that you know that you can have window the way it was
[05:46] <draik> I think you should ftwiiner.
[05:47] <ftwiiner> another go?
[05:47] <draik> I am on my 2nd install of Kubuntu
[05:47] <kana> another try
[05:47] <ftwiiner> unistall
[05:47] <draik> I did the same mistake you did (I had to fdisk /mbr)
[05:47] <draik> reinstall kubuntu
[05:48] <draik> question ftwiiner: Why are you uninstalling Kubuntu?
[05:48] <ftwiiner> i am not
[05:48] <draik> not what?
[05:48] <kana> ftwiiner: so can you paste the error you have when you login to window
[05:49] <flaccid> is there a good tutorial/howto on setting up samba and cups with kubuntu (pref server install)?
[05:49] <kana> !cups
[05:49] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:49] <kana> !samba
[05:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:49] <ftwiiner> i have to restart..
[05:49] <ftwiiner> bbl
[05:49] <flaccid> thanks y0
[05:49] <kana> ftwiiner: wait
[05:50] <ftwiiner> yes
[05:50] <kana> did you install window after or before you installed window
[05:50] <ftwiiner> first windows then kubuntu
[05:50] <kana> sorry did you install kubuntu after or before window
[05:50] <kana> yah that is what i ment
[05:50] <kana> ftwiiner: can you login to kubuntu
[05:50] <ftwiiner> i am in kubuntu
[05:50] <ftwiiner> it has no problems
[05:51] <kana> ftwiiner: but you can not login to window right
[05:51] <ftwiiner> yup
[05:51] <kana> does window show up on your startup menu when you boot the cd
[05:51] <ftwiiner> not anymore it did for about 2 days
[05:51] <kana> ftwiiner: no problem
[05:52] <draik> kana, I think that I fresh install might be a good fix
[05:52] <kana> ftwiiner: in a terminal type cat /etc/boot/grub/menu.list
[05:52] <ftwiiner> i downloaded an ,exe
[05:52] <draik> ftwiiner, that exe will install the dos information on a floppy for you
[05:52] <ftwiiner> draik wut do i do wit it
[05:52] <kana> draik: i think it is just the menu.list might be modified
[05:52] <ftwiiner> can kubuntu format the floppy?
[05:53] <kana> yap
[05:53] <kana> ftwiiner: can you tell me what is in the /boot/grub/menu.lst files
[05:53] <draik> ftwiiner, can you pastebin a screen image of your menu.lst file
[05:53] <kana> file
[05:53] <ftwiiner> u are speakin chinese to me
[05:54] <Chetwin> Hello all!
[05:54] <draik> in kubuntu, press ALT+F2
[05:54] <Chetwin> can anyone tell me if there is a way to get banshee to keep track of new music in a folder?
[05:54] <kana> ftwiiner: use your file browser and go to /boot/grub/ folder
[05:54] <ftwiiner> where is the "/boot/grub/menu.lst files" ?
[05:54] <draik> this opens up a command line
[05:54] <draik> type this...
[05:54] <draik> kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:55] <draik> this will open the file in Kate
[05:55] <ftwiiner> a little brush started jumping, lol
[05:55] <draik> it's not a brush... lol
[05:55] <Chetwin> It's a notepad with a pencil
[05:55] <Chetwin> LOL
[05:55] <draik> yup
[05:55] <ftwiiner> its long how should i paste it?
[05:55] <draik> don't past
[05:56] <draik> *paste
[05:56] <draik> look all the way at the bottom
[05:56] <draik> what does it say about your windows partition?
[05:56] <kana> ftwiiner: scroll in it till you see a section on window should be at the end of the file probably the last line
[05:56] <Chetwin> That it's made of solid diarrhea!
[05:56] <draik> Chetwin, that's just wrong!!!
[05:56] <ftwiiner> omg it doesn't show windows
[05:56] <Chetwin> Good
[05:57] <Chetwin> Let it go man
[05:57] <ftwiiner> i know it should be there
[05:57] <kana> ftwiiner: can you open the search and type in it Window
[05:57] <Chetwin> ftwiner: Let go of the windows man
[05:57] <kana> ftwiiner: where is your window partition located
[05:57] <draik> what hda#
[05:57] <ftwiiner> window not found ;(
[05:57] <draik> or sda#
[05:57] <draik> depending on your hdd
[05:57] <draik> ftwiiner
[05:57] <draik> I can help you fix that
[05:58] <Chetwin> dude, he called it a paint brush, I think he's pretty much vacant
[05:58] <draik> it's not so bad
[05:58] <kana> draik: so you can take it from here :)
[05:58] <elwyn> hi all
[05:58] <ftwiiner> the same as kubuntu
[05:58] <Chetwin> Hey elwyn
[05:58] <draik> kana, yeah. I have the default setup
[05:58] <scabootssca_> anybody know hoe to setup adsl in linux?
[05:59] <ftwiiner> End Default Options- the things under there showed along with windows at starup
[05:59] <ftwiiner> windows isn't there anymore
[05:59] <ftwiiner> wit wut app do i open an exe
[05:59] <abattoir> scabootssca_: PPPoE ?
[06:00] <Chetwin> Sorry if I'm being a jerk to anyone, long day at the office
[06:00] <bioticpro> anybody else have the problem of programs that require sudo not launching at all sometimes? (example: Adept, system settigns admin mode...)
[06:00] <draik> It's ok Chetwin
[06:00] <draik> ftwiiner, forget the exe for now
[06:00] <ftwiiner> oh ok
[06:00] <scabootssca_> i dunno i have http://www.dsl-warehouse.com/product_info.php?products_id=134 router
[06:00] <scabootssca_> it worked before
[06:01] <scabootssca_> it just stopped working for no reason
[06:01] <kana> ftwiiner: is it ntfs or fat32
[06:01] <ftwiiner> ntfs
[06:01] <draik> ftwiiner, add a space at the end of the file and type what I give you
[06:01] <draik> ftwiiner, just press enter twice
[06:01] <ftwiiner> before or after it says ende
[06:01] <kana> draik: you need to know where is the partition
[06:01] <draik> after
[06:02] <draik> kana, I will once I get there
[06:02] <ftwiiner> ok done
[06:02] <kana> ok
[06:02] <draik> Type the following...
[06:02] <draik> title
[06:03] <draik> then press TAB 2 times
[06:03] <draik> then type whatever you want to call windows
[06:03] <draik> Default is Windows XP Professional (or Home) Edition
[06:03] <draik> got it so far ftwiiner
[06:03] <ftwiiner> done
[06:03] <draik> ok
[06:04] <kana> ftwiiner: try to save it now
[06:04] <abattoir> draik: wouldnt it be a better idea to ask him to pastebin it, so that you can edit it and give it back to him?
[06:04] <ftwiiner> yes i did it
[06:04] <kana> draik: you did not open the file as su ;)
[06:04] <draik> abattoir, good idea
[06:04] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:04] <draik> whoops, I have root access to most of my things... used to it
[06:05] <draik> ftwiiner, can you please email me your file
[06:05] <ftwiiner> ok
[06:10] <justicecow> hi all
[06:10] <justicecow> i just installed kubuntu
[06:11] <justicecow> could i get some help in private message by any chane?
[06:11] <abattoir> justicecow: what is your problem?
[06:11] <justicecow> adept isnt working at all
[06:11] <justicecow> and i am not used to this OS
[06:12] <justicecow> so the only way i can run applications that didnt come with kubuntu is to use terminal
[06:12] <abattoir> justicecow: what happens? it doesnt load?
[06:12] <abattoir> justicecow: adept is a program that 'installs' applications, to run them, you must use the K-menu....
[06:13] <abattoir> justicecow: or, katapult, or the Alt+F2 run dialog... among other things
[06:13] <justicecow> yes
[06:13] <justicecow> i need to open in to install applications
[06:13] <justicecow> but when i try
[06:13] <justicecow> it asks me for my password
[06:13] <justicecow> then tells me the database could not be opened
[06:13] <justicecow> and it is the correct password...
[06:14] <justicecow> open in = open it
[06:14] <abattoir> justicecow: you are sure no other instances of it are running, right?
[06:14] <justicecow> indeed
[06:15] <abattoir> justicecow: or synaptic/apt-get/smart by any chance?
[06:15] <justicecow> i do not know what you are saying
[06:15] <bioticpro> I have yet to find the great program "doasroot" in the repositories, is it named something else, or is there a similar app? (it allows you to right click in filemanger and do actions as su by entering pass)
[06:15] <abattoir> justicecow: ok, then you probably arent using them...
[06:16] <abattoir> justicecow: ok, open up a terminal, type 'kdesu adept'... it'll ask you for your password again, enter it, and see if you get that error message, again
[06:16] <justicecow> ok will try, thank you
[06:16] <bioticpro> Maybe a do-as-sudo plugin...? for konq
[06:19] <justicecow> same message
[06:20] <justicecow> the APT database could not be opened this could be due to an incorrect apt configuration
[06:21] <abattoir> justicecow: ok, try installing something throught the command line...
[06:21] <abattoir> justicecow: 'sudo apt-get install <package>'
[06:23] <justicecow> would the package be xchat-2.6.6-0.i686?
[06:23] <justicecow> would i use .rpm ext at the end?
[06:24] <abattoir> justicecow: 'sudo apt-get install xchat' should do
[06:24] <abattoir> !info xchat
[06:24] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[06:24] <abattoir> justicecow: hmmm, you might need to enable universe....
[06:24] <poseidon> The irony is stunning. Going to microsoft.com keeps chrashing konqueror
[06:24] <abattoir> justicecow: if you havent already done that, that is
[06:25] <abattoir> poseidon: change to ID to IE ;)
[06:25] <kana> abattoir: sudo apt-get update or sudo apt-get upgrade should do what you want
[06:25] <justicecow> i do not think that worked
[06:25] <abattoir> kana: ???
[06:25] <justicecow> and i have not enabled universe?
[06:25] <abattoir> justicecow: any errors?
[06:25] <kana> abattoir: testing if apt works
[06:25] <justicecow> nothing at all happened
[06:26] <kana> justicecow: it might be already installed :)
[06:26] <easynintendo> !java
[06:26] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:27] <justicecow> i doubt that it is
[06:28] <bigbill52a> you can also use automatix or easy unbuntu from ubuntuguide.com to install java
[06:28] <abattoir> justicecow: if it is, it'd tel you that
[06:28] <abattoir> *tell
[06:28] <abattoir> justicecow: so you get no messages at all?
[06:28] <justicecow> none
[06:29] <easynintendo> !repositories
[06:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:30] <easynintendo> !easysource
[06:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:30] <abattoir> !paste > draik
[06:30] <wolfmanz> abattoir is there a command that can do a secure delete of files as in writting over the file several times with junk?
[06:30] <abattoir> wolfmanz: yes, shred or something... wait a sec
[06:31] <abattoir> wolfmanz: yes, 'man shred' should give you more info.
[06:31] <wolfmanz> abattoir thanks
[06:34] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Awwww, your buddy easynintendo left us
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:34] <abattoir> Hawkwind: heh, he'll be back :P
[06:34] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Unfortunately for us
[06:34] <abattoir> Hawkwind: yes, we have no one to ignore now :(
[06:34] <draik> does anybody know how to avoid putting in your password when you go to Adept?
[06:35] <draik> I did it on this desktop, but I forgot how
[06:35] <abattoir> Hawkwind: oh, you meant him coming back... :P
[06:35] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Hah, yeah.  Wish he'd stay gone
[06:35] <abattoir> draik: only for adept or for any 'sudo' prompt?
[06:35] <draik> any sudo
[06:36] <abattoir> Hawkwind: if he continues doing this on purpose, he's going to get banned...... or at least i hope he is...
[06:36] <abattoir> draik: edit the /etc/sudoers file
[06:36] <draik> I installed Kubuntu over another PC and I forgot how I did it
[06:36] <Hawkwind> abattoir: We'll make sure of it :)
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Hmmm ya know, I did the whole visudo one time to try and setup sudo to not ask for a password, yet it still does.  Though the stuff I added has worked in every other distro
[06:37] <abattoir> Hawkwind: indeed :)
[06:37] <abattoir> draik: add 'NOPASSWD: ALL' to the end of the %admin line
[06:38] <abattoir> draik: yes, edit it w/ 'sudo visudo' :P
[06:38] <abattoir> Hawkwind: weird...
[06:38] <wolfmanz> abattoir is there a way to shred files sellected in konqueror?
[06:38] <abattoir> wolfmanz: not sure, there might be a service menu available at kde-apps.org
[06:39] <abattoir> Hawkwind: you did that ^^^^ ?
[06:39] <Hawkwind> abattoir: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL 'NOPASSWD: ALL'  <~~Like that ?
[06:39] <abattoir> Hawkwind: yes, that's what i do...
[06:39] <Hawkwind> abattoir: When I save the file, it errors
[06:39] <abattoir> Hawkwind: saying?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 21 <<<
[06:40] <Hawkwind> What now?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> That's exactly what it says
[06:41] <abattoir> Hawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19365 is what i have
[06:41] <abattoir> Hawkwind: w/o the newline at line 23
[06:41] <Timmi> Why doest the updater work on kubuntu ?
[06:42] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I had one too many 'ALL's in there :P
[06:42] <abattoir> Hawkwind: oh, hehe
[06:43] <Hawkwind> I had ALL NOPASSWD:ALL
[06:43] <abattoir> Hawkwind: aah, i missed that one...
[06:43] <Hawkwind> abattoir: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=148.0  <~~I've used this though in every other distro
[06:44] <abattoir> Hawkwind: even in Debian?
[06:44] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I guess it doesn't work in Ubuntu since it uses sudo by default.  No other distro I've used it in does
[06:44] <clemons> Why is it that Kubuntu doesn't display firefox or kmail in the kmenu
[06:44] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yep, in Debian unstable I used it
[06:44] <abattoir> Hawkwind: yes, ubuntu is unique in it's handling of root privileges, after all :)
[06:45] <abattoir> clemons: kmail is a part of kontact...
[06:45] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yep guess so.  Time to update my how-to :)
[06:45] <abattoir> clemons: firefox was installed from the repos?
[06:45] <StrudelNinja> Hey I'm trying to unmount a disk and I get sudo: unmount: command not found
[06:45] <unix_infidel> umount
[06:45] <unix_infidel> not unmount
[06:46] <clemons> It was originally installed
[06:46] <clemons> but I installed it from the repository, and now it has a crappy globe instead of the firefox icon
[06:46] <StrudelNinja> well that's just silly
[06:46] <unix_infidel> life is silly.
[06:46] <clemons> Amarok also refuses to play my mp3s, and the libxine-extracodecs the official website tells you to get aren't in the repositories
[06:47] <OOD> clemons: they're in the multiverse repository
[06:47] <clemons> Do I have to type that one in?
[06:47] <OOD> you have do add the multiverse repository to your sources.list
[06:47] <OOD> !multiverse
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:47] <flaccid> i need to solve this. /usr/sbin/procfgd: /lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: version `GLIBCPP_3.2' not found (required by /usr/lib/libxerces-c.so.22) . how can i get libstdc?
[06:48] <flaccid> !apt-get
[06:48] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:51] <bl3ssing> I want to install my firefox 2.5 (not firefox 1.0.8 which's located in Adept Repository) into my computer from the konsole. How can I do it?
[06:53] <draik> bl3ssing, just install firefox 1.0.8 and let firefox do the update for you
[06:54] <wolfmanz> abattoir that shred for konqueror works out good thanks
[06:54] <clemons> Thank you, it was in the multiverse
[06:56] <Hawkwind> Konqueror has a shred command ?
[06:56] <abattoir> wolfmanz: found it in kde-apps.org ?
[06:56] <flaccid> anybody know what /usr/sbin/procfgd: symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/procfgd: undefined symbol: _Q211xercesc_2_26XMLUni.fgXercescDefaultLocale means?
[06:56] <wolfmanz> abattoir yup and it was simple enough to install
[06:56] <bl3ssing> draik, it is not doing by itself. It saying to me to download the file, and than to install it. :(
[06:57] <abattoir> wolfmanz: nice :)
[06:57] <wolfmanz> abattoir now i gotta see what else i can install lol
[06:57] <abattoir> Hawkwind: a service menu extension.... found at kde-apps.org
[06:57] <draik> did you update your repository bl3ssing?
[06:57] <abattoir> wolfmanz: as i keep telling everyone, kde-apps, and kde-look are a treasure trove...
[06:58] <bl3ssing> how can I do it?
[06:58] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya i have been on kde-apps a few times
[06:58] <bl3ssing> draik, how can I do it?
[06:59] <bl3ssing> shall I get to the full upgrade of Adept?
[06:59] <draik> yes
[07:00] <bl3ssing> I did it draik. And I don't have firefox 2.5, but only firefox 1.0.8 in the Adept.
[07:00] <bl3ssing> :(
[07:00] <bl3ssing> jhjkh bl3ssing
[07:01] <wolfmanz> abattoir do you run a virus scanner or a firewall?
[07:01] <bl3ssing> draik, I did it. And I don't have firefox 2.5, but only firefox 1.0.8 in the Adept.
[07:01] <abattoir> wolfmanz: no
[07:01] <abattoir> bl3ssing: firefox 2.5?
[07:02] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya it dont seem like many linux users that stuff
[07:02] <RawSewage> I use Kubuntu.  Does anyone in here use Kubuntu
[07:02] <draik> I'm installing firefox on my other desktop
[07:02] <draik> I'm going to see what version I get
[07:02] <RawSewage> nm, sorry.  wrong channel
[07:02] <abattoir> wolfmanz: i'm not going to waste resources on things like that till i'm actually attacked/affected :P
[07:03] <abattoir> RawSewage: hehe
[07:03] <clemons> Oh good lord, my sound stopped working again
[07:03] <clemons> This happened last time I installed kubuntu
[07:03] <wolfmanz> abattoir i'm behind a hardware firewall so i dont see a need for the software one and as far as i know there are known virus's for linux so i dont bother with the virus scanner
[07:04] <clemons> I didn't touch anything with the volume, it just stopped
[07:07] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Ahhh, this shred thing is nice!
[07:08] <bioticpro> I just started using Amarok, can somone help me, I see no songs in my Collection tab, even though I added the folder with all my mp3s
[07:08] <abattoir> Hawkwind: heh. i'll try it out, even though i dont have anything that confidential :P
[07:08] <draik> abattoir, I did that on my other desktop and it works, but on this desktop, I don't have that modification
[07:08] <draik> the sudoers file
[07:08] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I don't even.  I mean, the pr0n is pretty public stuff
[07:08] <Hawkwind> LOL
[07:08] <abattoir> Hawkwind: heh
[07:09] <abattoir> draik: you mean you havent modified it, or it doesnt work?
[07:09] <dan_> hello hello
[07:09] <draik> I modified it on the new install (other desktop, not this one) and it works
[07:09] <draik> I don't have that file modified on this desktop and it works
[07:10] <draik> There was something I did
[07:10] <draik> I can't recall what it was
[07:10] <draik> but I don't get asked for my password
[07:11] <clemons> Has anyone had any problems with the sound mysteriously not working after a reboot?
[07:11] <justicecow> yes mine hasnt worked since installing kubuntu
[07:12] <clemons> Mine worked hwen I installed ubuntu
[07:12] <clemons> *when
[07:12] <clemons> It has died twice on me after rebooting
[07:12] <clemons> I tried killing artsd and restarting it and stuff, but nothing works
[07:13] <clemons> I am not even going to fiddle with it this time, because I know for a fact I haven't done anything to provoke the sound failure
[07:13] <bioticpro> any xmame users in here? (need help with video settings)
[07:15] <sora_umi> Hello,Someone can help me?
[07:15] <TehKewl1> whats the problem
[07:16] <sora_umi> I banned from #ubuntu
[07:16] <TehKewl1> oh well, I'm not an op
[07:16] <sora_umi> I can't enter #ubuntu
[07:17] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: you are?
[07:17] <sora_umi> what ?
[07:17] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: done anything to get banned before?
[07:18] <sora_umi> I dropped from #ubuntu with ROM
[07:19] <bl3ssing> abattoir, firefox 1.5 (sorry ... too fast typing)
[07:19] <bl3ssing> :)
[07:20] <abattoir> !info firefox
[07:20] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB
[07:20] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: what's ROM?
[07:20] <abattoir> bl3ssing: dapper has firefox 1.5 ^^^^^^
[07:21] <OOD> read only memory
[07:21] <abattoir> bl3ssing: unless, of course, if you are on breezy...
[07:21] <Hobbsee> OOD: yaeh, didnt see how that would effect it though
[07:21] <sora_umi> I added in #ubuntu,but I didn't say nothing,because of settein IRC
[07:22] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: accept the invite, if you can see it?
[07:22] <sora_umi> Thanks Hobbsee,but i can't enter.
[07:22] <sora_umi> what happens?
[07:22] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: what's the message that you try to get when you enter?
[07:24] <sora_umi> Just "Join...." and I joined,but nothin appears..
[07:24] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: do you get any notices in your server window?
[07:24] <bl3ssing> abattoir, I use kubuntu 5.10 ... How can I have the dapper?
[07:24] <Hobbsee> !upgrade > bl3ssing
[07:25] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: you're not shown as banned at all
[07:25] <sora_umi> Many times say "You are not on a channel"
[07:26] <sora_umi> I tried "/join" but I can't.
[07:26] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[07:30] <bl3ssing> gksudo ... what command is this? I am trying to follow some rules for upgrading my kubuntu 5.10 to kub.6... and it is not owrking (not recognizing the gksudo command)
[07:30] <bl3ssing> ?
[07:30] <abattoir> bl3ssing: substitute that w/ kdesu
[07:31] <bl3ssing> kdesu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:31] <bl3ssing> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[07:32] <bl3ssing> what's the pb in here?
[07:32] <abattoir> bl3ssing: substitute gedit w/ kate
[07:34] <flaccid> how do you find out what package a file is in. this doesn't seem to work on this distro apt-file search libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[07:35] <sora_umi> Hobbsee,Now I could enter #ubuntu!!Thanks for your kindness!
[07:35] <Hobbsee> sora_umi: :)
[07:35] <abattoir> flaccid: 'dpkg -S <file>'
[07:35] <flaccid> thanks
[07:36] <flaccid> abattoir: isn't that for installed packages? i wanna search the sources
[07:36] <justicecow> if i was to use sudo apt get install to install an application how would i gain access to said application post installing it?
[07:36] <bioticpro> Can someone please help me with amarok?
[07:36] <bimberi_> flaccid: you can either install apt-file or search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:36] <flaccid> thanks
[07:37] <bimberi_> yw
[07:37] <abattoir> justicecow: you can either run it from the Kmenu(if it adds itself) or by execeuting it.... which application?
[07:38] <bimberi_> justicecow: if it doesn't create a menu entry you can find its executables with 'dpkg -L <package> | grep bin'
[07:38] <bl3ssing> why is it [0%]  working? ... it should show me some increasing numbers, right? (still on upgrading frok kubuntu old version, to 6.)
[07:38] <abattoir> bioticpro: what's the problem ?
[07:38] <bioticpro> abattoir: I started Amarok for first time, selected folder with all my mp3's, yet nothing shows up in collection
[07:38] <bl3ssing> bioticpro, .. what's the pb with amarok?
[07:38] <justicecow> abattoir: firefox, i have installed it in the terminal but do not know how to execute it
[07:39] <TehKewl1> did you try ALT + F2
[07:39] <bl3ssing> justicecow, can you tell me please how did you manage to install the firefox in the terminal?
[07:39] <TehKewl1> and typing mozilla-firefox
[07:39] <flaccid> apparently this file is in the universe source? does that sound right?
[07:39] <TehKewl1> or just firefox
[07:39] <bl3ssing> justicecow, to start follow this stapes: KMenu -> Internet -> Firefox.
[07:39] <bl3ssing> or ... Alt+F2 ->type firefox
[07:40] <flaccid> !sources
[07:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:40] <abattoir> bioticpro: did the 'Collection Scan' process end successfully?
[07:40] <justicecow> thaks TehKewl1 :D
[07:40] <TehKewl1> :D
[07:40] <bioticpro> abattoir: yes, just no result
[07:40] <flaccid> !easysource
[07:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:40] <abattoir> bioticpro: you have mp3 support in amarok enabled?
[07:41] <bioticpro> abattoir: it says 0 tracke 589 artist
[07:41] <justicecow> sorry bl3ssing i think i just typed sudo get-installl firefox in the terminal
[07:41] <bioticpro> tracks
[07:41] <abattoir> bioticpro: i wouldnt expect that to affect your collection... but still...
[07:41] <flaccid> i just want to add the universe source to my sources.lst... where can i get the info?
[07:41] <abattoir> bioticpro: installed libxine-extracodecs?
[07:41] <bioticpro> abattoir: yes
[07:42] <abattoir> bioticpro: can you try rescanning it? does it still do the same?
[07:42] <bl3ssing> justicecow, get-install is not recognized command.
[07:42] <bioticpro> abattoir: I had all codecs before scan, have tried scanning a couple times
[07:43] <justicecow> ummm
[07:43] <justicecow> hold on il check log
[07:43] <draik> anyone know how to change the computer's name (description)?
[07:43] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3217 MHz (6433 bogomips), , RAM: 648/3031MB, 95 proc's, 2.15h up
[07:44] <draik> I want to change the Lair part of the name
[07:44] <moparisthebest> hey rikioh
[07:44] <justicecow> bl3ssing:  sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:44] <rikioh> hey
[07:44] <flaccid> whats the location of sources.lst?
[07:45] <abattoir> draik: 'hostname -v', check 'man hostname' for more info
[07:45] <draik> thank you abattoir
[07:45] <abattoir> bioticpro: which version of amarok?
[07:45] <bioticpro> abattoir: 1.3.9
[07:45] <flaccid> i do a locate sources.lst and get nothing
[07:45] <flaccid> please help
[07:46] <abattoir> bioticpro: maybe upgrading to 1.4.1 would help?
[07:46] <bimberi_> flaccid: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <bimberi_> (missing the i)
[07:46] <bioticpro> abattoir: do I have to add another repo for that?
[07:46] <flaccid> oh thanks
[07:46] <rikioh> can someone help me im having problems installing i get errors
[07:47] <abattoir> bioticpro: yes... one sec
[07:47] <jewels9321> I need some help..... i just installed Debian Edu Mathematical Applications, since it is misc i am not sure how to run it.... can anyone help me?
[07:47] <abattoir> bioticpro: 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main'
[07:48] <rikioh> it starts mounting then it switches to a black screen with white letters and says a certain directory then some numbers and then it says failed
[07:48] <rikioh> it repeats that over and over forever
[07:48] <abattoir> bioticpro: change the last part of the link to 'amarok-latest', if you'd want the latest amarok packages and not keep adding new repos
[07:49] <bioticpro> abattoir: ok, thx
[07:49] <jewels9321> gotta run
[07:50] <rikioh> anyone willing to help me with install errors?
[07:50] <TehKewl1> what kind
[07:51] <rikioh> well it says its mounting and the blue bar goes just a bit then the screen changes solid black with white letters and shows a director with some numbers to the side and says failed
[07:51] <rikioh> it does that repeatedly
[07:51] <rikioh> and doesnt stop
[07:51] <rikioh> i let it go for like 4 hours
[07:51] <rikioh> and it still did it
[07:51] <TehKewl1> hmmm
[07:52] <TehKewl1> I dunno....
[07:52] <rikioh> darn :(
[07:53] <abattoir> rikioh: did you try the safe boot option?
[07:53] <rikioh> actually no
[07:53] <abattoir> rikioh: could you try that and see if you get the same errors?
[07:53] <rikioh> kk ill try that
[07:53] <rikioh> brb
[07:56] <draik> what is the name of the app for converting avi to mpeg?
[07:56] <draik> ff-something or another
[07:56] <abattoir> ffmpeg?
[07:56] <draik> thank you
[07:56] <abattoir> !info ffmpeg
[07:56] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB
[07:57] <draik> I need to change some avi's to mpeg's for QDvdAuthor to work
[07:58] <rikioh> ran in safe mode and got error reading boot cd REBOOT
[07:59] <rikioh> and when i check cd for defects it finds none
[07:59] <clemons> Has anyone here had a problem with the sound ceasing to work after the first reboot after installation?
[08:00] <rikioh> can someone link me to kubuntu live cd cuz i think this download was bugged
[08:01] <bioticpro> abattoir: rescanned again and finally came in
[08:01] <bioticpro> 1188 mp3s
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone and AegeanLinux, abattoir, emonkey, h3sp4wn, Hobbsee, Riddell
[08:01] <Hobbsee> hi MilhousePunkRock
[08:02] <AegeanLinux> Good morning MilhousePunkRock
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> AegeanLinux: Ready?
[08:02] <AegeanLinux> is there another word for almost?
[08:02] <AegeanLinux> google: define:almost
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Close (but not close enough)? ;-)
[08:03] <SpAwN> !composite
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about composite - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> I haven't parted my drive yet anway, AegeanLinux...
[08:06] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: Yeah, but still, almost done D:
[08:07] <wolfmanz> abattoir when you load the process table up is vmsize in megs?
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Almost as in 24h? Or 48h? 72h even?
[08:07] <rikioh> ok its done creating live user.... now its says uncompressing linux.....ok booting kernel
[08:07] <rikioh> am i good so far?
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: If you think your CD might be bugged, you should select the Disc test on the boot menu...
[08:09] <rikioh> i did milhouse and it found nothing wrong
[08:09] <rikioh> right now im at the step i stated
[08:09] <rikioh> dunno how long it takes
[08:09] <rikioh> but im here
[08:09] <rikioh> at that step
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: You are trying to install Kubunut, I assume?
[08:10] <rikioh> yes
[08:10] <rikioh> it said setting up live user
[08:10] <rikioh> then said ok
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Then booting live is right, of course
[08:10] <rikioh> then went to uncompressing linux
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: That can take a moment depending on your PC
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> 's specs
[08:11] <the_hammer> hi guys do u use build-essenuals in kubuntu?
[08:11] <rikioh> its my older pc
[08:11] <rikioh> 733 mhz processor
[08:11] <rikioh> 256 mb ram
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> !build-essential
[08:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Does that help, the_hammer?
[08:11] <rikioh> ok milhouse i know im new but dont think of me stupid for asking... but will this have to be done each time i turn on the pc to boot linux?
[08:12] <SpAwN> !xgl
[08:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:12] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: When you install it, it's much faster...
[08:12] <the_hammer> ya that helped ty
[08:12] <rikioh> milhouse mind linking me to an install version instead of a live version?
[08:13] <abattoir> bioticpro: cool :)
[08:13] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: morning :)
[08:13] <abattoir> wolfmanz: i'd say KB
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: That would be the Alternate CD, but you can install from the LiveCD too...
[08:13] <rikioh> ah its doing the first option
[08:13] <rikioh> from my disc
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Namaste (?) abattoir
[08:13] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone tell me wich package contaions libmp3lame.so ?
[08:13] <rikioh> sorry that im new to this
[08:13] <rikioh> trying to get into linux
[08:13] <rikioh> :)
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> !info lame
[08:13] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:14] <rikioh> ok well milhouse im gonna smoke a cigarette and be back in a minute il update if anything changes
[08:14] <rikioh> thank you for your help
[08:14] <bioticpro> anybody running Kxmame?
[08:14] <rikioh> before i leave tho
[08:15] <rikioh> my screen just turned black
[08:15] <rikioh> and its sitting there black
[08:15] <the_hammer> where do i find that thing ya put all the check marks into for allowing things?
[08:15] <_Shade_> i'm looking for a backup program (for kde) but not konserve... are there any others  ?
[08:16] <abattoir> _Shade_: tried keep?
[08:16] <abattoir> !info keep
[08:16] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB
[08:16] <rikioh> after the uncompressing linux....ok booting kernel it sat there for a long time and now my screen is black
[08:16] <rikioh> no words
[08:16] <rikioh> just black
[08:16] <_Shade_> abattoir: not yet... is it in the repo ?
[08:17] <abattoir> _Shade_: ^^^^^ yes, in main
[08:17] <the_hammer> anyone know what im talking about theres a box ya put check marks in for allowing things?
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> _Shade_: Hey... Keep is really nice once you figured how to set it up
[08:17] <the_hammer> if so whats the hot key to pop it up to do so?
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> the_hammer: rwx permissions and such?
[08:18] <_Shade_> abattoir: can i make a backup (let's say my homedir) and then safely upgrade to the latest kde version and then apply the backup ?
[08:19] <abattoir> the_hammer: you mean the file/folder properties(permissions) dialog?
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: What happens if you press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[08:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: hmmm, you might experience some side-effects
[08:19] <wolfmanz> abattoir this OS is a pig on ram eh?
[08:20] <abattoir> wolfmanz: what do you mean?
[08:20] <abattoir> wolfmanz: yes, linux handles memory 'efficiently' :P
[08:20] <wolfmanz> well i got a giog of ram and half of that is in use and i hardly have anything open here
[08:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Speaking about RAM, I ordered another 256 MB yesterday, yeah!
[08:20] <the_hammer> yes thats exxactly what i was talking about
[08:21] <the_hammer> sorry mouse has mind of its own and wouldnt let me click in the box here to type
[08:21] <_Shade_> abattoir: you mean i should get the latest kde first, and then i should do a backup ?
[08:21] <rikioh> ctrl, alt, backspace made it go back to the screen uncompressing linux....ok booting kernel
[08:21] <abattoir> _Shade_: you mean 3.5.3?
[08:21] <the_hammer> the permissions and such is what i was refering to yes whats the hot key command to pop it up to add check marks?
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Is it still doing stuff? Check the HDD LED...
[08:22] <_Shade_> abattoir: yes indeed
[08:22] <rikioh> milhouse the light is doing nothing
[08:22] <abattoir> _Shade_: yes, that sounds good, but 3.5.4 should be announced soon
[08:22] <abattoir> _Shade_: just FYI
[08:22] <the_hammer> aww darn where did that guy go that got back to me
[08:23] <wolfmanz> abattoir this thing need jenny craig
[08:23] <the_hammer> im looking for the permissions thing to add the check marks
[08:23] <the_hammer> anyone know the hot key to punch to pop it up?
[08:23] <abattoir> the_hammer: rt. click on a file/folder-> Permissions
[08:23] <rikioh> think i should jsut try to find a install cd instead of a live cd milhouse?
[08:23] <abattoir> ugh, Properties
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Try booting with the Safe Options...
[08:23] <_Shade_> abattoir: that's why i am a bit confused... i think i will wait for 3.5.4 to came out
[08:23] <rikioh> kk
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Depends on how long it would take you to download it...
[08:24] <the_hammer> wheres that at file folder?
[08:24] <abattoir> rikioh: werent you the person whom i asked to try the safe boot thing?
[08:25] <abattoir> the_hammer: right click a file or a folder->Properties->Permissions
[08:26] <the_hammer> no no thasts not what i mean
[08:27] <the_hammer> i dunno how to explain it
[08:27] <rikioh> milhouse i get this error   loading isolinux: diskerror 80, ax=4200 drive 9f
[08:27] <damjan> in which repository is mplayer?
[08:28] <the_hammer> theres a box that pops up for permissions (not folders on desktop,etc) but theres a thing that allows things thats not turned on by defult or what ever ya have to enable pc for certain things and im sounding like a broken record
[08:28] <the_hammer> lol
[08:28] <the_hammer> but i dunno how to explain what i mean
[08:29] <the_hammer> it explains it better on the build essenuals site pasted to me earlyer
[08:29] <the_hammer> im making ne sense eh
[08:29] <the_hammer> no*
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Not much, the_hammer... :-)
[08:30] <rikioh> milhouse i get this error   loading isolinux: diskerror 80, ax=4200 drive 9f
[08:30] <the_hammer> !build-essenuals
[08:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about build-essenuals - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !build-essentials
[08:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> the_hammer: What are you planning to compile anyway? Did you look if there are now precompiled packages...
[08:32] <rikioh> with the alternate cd can i install kubuntu easily
[08:32] <rikioh> ?
[08:32] <damjan> I can't find mplayer using adept...I enabled all repositories. All I can find is kmplayer
[08:33] <the_hammer> im wanting to run an eggdrop
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: It's text based AFAIK... But did you try booting with the safe settings?
[08:34] <rikioh> yeh i got this
[08:34] <rikioh> loading isolinux: diskerror 80, ax=4200 drive 9f
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> the_hammer: Why would you want to do that?
[08:35] <the_hammer> long story
[08:35] <the_hammer> but i have 1 backed up on cd
[08:35] <the_hammer> its for channel protection and such
[08:36] <the_hammer> this is silly dam cd wont pop out
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> wb AegeanLinux
[08:36] <rikioh> think i should reburn my iso milhouse?
[08:36] <rikioh> the disk check shows no errors
[08:36] <rikioh> but i get errors
[08:36] <the_hammer> how do i get this darn cd out
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Might be worth a try... Make sure you burn it as slow as possible
[08:37] <the_hammer> i dont see cd in media home thing
[08:37] <the_hammer> to eject it
[08:37] <the_hammer> dam thing
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> the_hammer: Push the button...
[08:37] <the_hammer> not working its mounted or what ever
[08:39] <the_hammer> heck with it im gonna shut down and pop it out that way even if i have to pull the cable from my hard drive to get it out
[08:39] <justicecow> my cd wont eject either.... when i push the button... it is odd
[08:39] <the_hammer> bbs
[08:39] <StrudelNinja> anyone know why the text in the comics on www.stripgenerator.com doesn't work...?
[08:39] <StrudelNinja> it worked on my winbox
[08:39] <StrudelNinja> The_hammer: sudo umount /cdrom
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> StrudelNinja: Same here, I think...
[08:42] <StrudelNinja> oddd
[08:42] <StrudelNinja> -d
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> the_hammer: Most likely there is a little hole on the front of the drive, if you push a paper clip in there, it will eject...
[08:43] <StrudelNinja> could it be shockwave
[08:43] <StrudelNinja> he needs to unmount
[08:43] <StrudelNinja> [01:36:18]  <the_hammer> not working its mounted or what ever
[08:43] <_Shade_> i've got a kernel update available... anyone knows if nvidia-legacy drivers will work after the upgrade ?
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Wouldn't the emergency eject override that?
[08:44] <StrudelNinja> iunno
[08:45] <StrudelNinja> he could just unmount and eject it
[08:45] <StrudelNinja> heh
[08:45] <w00t> hi
[08:45] <w00t> :)
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi w00t
[08:46] <w00t> u know counterstrike?
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> w00t: From hearsay... I am a convinced America's ARmy player...
[08:47] <rikioh> milhouse you know how i left it sitting there trying to load the kernel forever
[08:47] <rikioh> well i think it thrashed my pc
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: That's highly unlikely...
[08:47] <rikioh> cuz now it just makes that first boot noise when you turn a pc on
[08:47] <rikioh> over and over
[08:47] <w00t> can i play counter strike on kubuntu?
[08:47] <rikioh> thats what it does when i try to turn the pc on
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> !wine
[08:47] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:47] <rikioh> just dink dink dink dink dink
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> !cedega
[08:47] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> w00t: One of those should do the job
[08:48] <w00t> :) ok ty
[08:48] <rikioh> ever heard of anything like that milhouse
[08:48] <rikioh> ?
[08:48] <w00t> u know the lan version?
[08:49] <ubuntu> hello there! i currently installed kubuntu 6.06 and i'm pleased with it... i have a single problem, and it's a KDE problem: when i use the keyboard arrows to select files from, let's say, an open file window, if i keep going in one direction, the cursor skips files... it's so annoying... i hoped the KDE team solved this bug... or is there a problem on my system, though i installed kde on many different machines... can anyone help me, please? :D
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Not really... Do you still have the CD inserted?
[08:50] <ubuntu> yes
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Sorry, ubuntu, that wasn't for you... :-)
[08:51] <ubuntu> oh :(
[08:53] <rikioh> i took the cd out now
[08:53] <rikioh> i stil cant get any thing
[08:53] <rikioh> it just keeps making that noise
[08:53] <rikioh> with a black screen
[08:54] <_Shade_> have you got any idea if the nvidia legacy drivers works on the latest kernel ?
[08:57] <w00t> is that not free
[08:57] <w00t> ?
[08:57] <w00t> is Cedega not free?
[08:57] <rikioh> i dont have another hdd i can put in that pc so i guess that ones just messed up for now
[08:58] <rikioh> im gonna try it with a hdd thats in this pc
[08:58] <rikioh> tomorrow
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: I doubt that a failed try to run the live CD damaged any of your hardware
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Try a cold reboot without the CD
[09:00] <rikioh> the pc has been off for a few minutes
[09:00] <rikioh> im gonna turn it on
[09:00] <rikioh> see what happens
[09:02] <rikioh> working now
[09:02] <rikioh> dunno what happend with the last couple reboots
[09:02] <_Shade_> !nvidia
[09:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:02] <rikioh> a new disc is burning
[09:02] <rikioh> im gonna go smoke a cig
[09:02] <rikioh> well see how things go
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone know the "wine repo" that is mentioned on the link in !wine?
[09:04] <intelikey> i have on kicker  ???
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning intelikey, you ratched jawed geek... :-)
[09:05] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock lol
[09:05] <intelikey> goof morning jan
[09:06] <intelikey> i wonder what i have broken that kicker wont run ?
[09:07] <intelikey> eeek it's worse than i thought.  kicker is running...
[09:08] <intelikey> ok.  kicker is running but no panal      any thoughts ?
[09:10] <intelikey> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:10] <intelikey>   Major opcode:  144
[09:10] <intelikey>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:10] <intelikey>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:11] <intelikey> killing and restarting kicker   gives that ^
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Weird stuff in your xorg.conf maybe?
[09:11] <fritsch> Riddell: good morning. seems that icq has changed their protocol again (version 3.5.4+kopete0.12.1-0ubuntu2~dapper1) no connection possible (client seems too old)
[09:12] <w00t> how can i do some think as root
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> w00t: type "sudo <command>" in a console, replacing <command> with what you want to do
[09:13] <w00t> ok
[09:13] <intelikey> w00t close eyes and say 'i am root, i own you.'
[09:14] <intelikey> oh i see that was a typo... hehhe
[09:14] <intelikey> "think as root"
[09:15] <intelikey> or 'permission, i dont need no stinking permission.'
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> w00t: If you want to screw your system quickly, just give your main user all privileges... That's as close as you can get to Windows... ;-)
[09:16] <tri> Teach him to confess to Failure
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Something wrong with the repos at the moment? adept is really sloooooooooooow...
[09:18] <_Shade_> MilhousePunkRock: i don't like adept i think it sucks
[09:19] <osh_> MilhousePunkRock: I also find it very slow.
[09:20] <ubuntu> hello there! i'm about to install kubuntu 6.06 on my drive... should i put the swap partition before the root one, or after?
[09:20] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock some of us can login as root and not "screw your system"     but in my case. by most peoples opinion it's already 'screwd' so what would it matter  ;)
[09:20] <osh_> _Shade_: Know of any other gui-tool for managing packages? Are there better ones out there? Adept is the best I've seen, although not great.
[09:20] <intelikey> ubuntu doesn't make any differance.
[09:20] <ubuntu> thanks
[09:21] <intelikey> osh_ adept/kpackage/synaptic   there may be others.
[09:21] <ubuntu> and what partition type should i use for the / root partition? :D
[09:22] <_Shade_> btw: the gnome stuff is much better done i think (the updater, and program installer)....
[09:22] <intelikey> a quick "apt-cache search package manage "   should tell you.
[09:22] <osh_> intelikey: I've tried them all. synaptic and adept suck equally much/little. None of them great tools. Kpackage sucks more. IMHO.
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> osh_: What about synaptic?
[09:22] <ubuntu> which one is the best? jfs, xfs, ext3 ?
[09:22] <intelikey> osh_ try apt  in the konsole
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: AFAIK that depends on your needs
[09:23] <grothesk> Ubugtu: There is no best. There is a best matchin one for your needs.
[09:23] <osh_> ubuntu: depends on your needs. xfs is high-performance but not great space-wise. ext3 is good all around. jfs i haven't tried.
[09:23] <intelikey> ubuntu ext#  rieserfs maybe  anything more exotic than that you may find distasteful
[09:24] <osh_> intelikey: it's not a gui tool. It's the one I use because it's the best, but it's not something I can dump on my mother/father to use.
[09:24] <ubuntu> ok thanks to all... i'll stick to ext3... i used it so far...
[09:25] <osh_> MilhousePunkRock: synaptic and adept are equally good/bad imho.
[09:25] <intelikey> osh_   i'm not sure i would agree that it's the best.  but at any rate, why not let them choose.
[09:25] <_Shade_> i wonder if there is a possibility to use ubuntu (gnome) tools such as the updater and program installer in kubuntu. I find the ubuntu ones has theirs gui much better done
[09:25] <fritsch> Riddell: working patch seems to be here: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=17185&action=view
[09:26] <fadli> my mic cannot be use. anybody have an idea how to overcome it?
[09:26] <grothesk> _Shade_: Of course you can use gnome apps.
[09:26] <fadli> my Audio device is Intel Corporation 82801G
[09:27] <intelikey> _Shade_ linux is linux, at least when it comes to the *buntu world. (some distros can be more or less linux than others)
[09:27] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:27] <_Shade_> grothesk: great but i don't know the name of these two
[09:28] <intelikey> why not search for them.
[09:28] <intelikey> apt-cache search <blah>
[09:29] <intelikey> filter through grep     apt-cache search blah | grep "sub string"
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Has anyone tried running minigames like those from bigfishgames.com in Wine?
[09:31] <intelikey> i'm not a gamer and i don't do windows.
[09:31] <joel> hello
[09:31] <intelikey> joel
[09:31] <joel> yo
[09:33] <joel> hellows
[09:34] <intelikey> well i got my panel back...    still not sure what hosed it.
[09:34] <joel> hello
[09:34] <joel> hey
[09:34] <intelikey> we did that bit already.
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> It's magic, intelikey
[09:34] <intelikey> magic errors ?
[09:34] <joel> Does any know how to install the akamaru dock...
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not a bug, it's a feature
[09:35] <intelikey> yeah that's about my opinion of *buntu     hehhe
[09:35] <joel> i've  been trying fro a while
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I know nothing about akamuru.
[09:35] <joel> hmm
[09:35] <joel> http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.git/
[09:35] <joel> its that
[09:36] <joel> maybe you gurus here know something
[09:36] <intelikey> is the tild supose to be there ?
[09:36] <joel> lol
[09:36] <joel> hi milhouse
[09:37] <intelikey> gurus  ?     did he cuss at us MilhousePunkRock ???
[09:37] <joel> What?
[09:37] <joel> LOL
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> joel: Are you running Gnome?
[09:37] <intelikey> :)
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> !op
[09:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about op - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:38] <joel> yes
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> !help
[09:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:38] <joel> I am running GNoME
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I don't like mopaisthebest's /part message...
[09:38] <joel> i've been trying for the last hr. cant figure it out..
[09:39] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: you wanted !ops :P
[09:39] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: yeah....it's not great.  tell him off when he comes back?
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I've only seen him leaving a few times... Never saying anything...
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> I'll tell him if I see him again though...
[09:40] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: sounds good.  cant do anything when he's not on the network :P
[09:40] <joel> Yo
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> joel: I don't use Gnome, so I can't help you... Maybe you ask for advise in #ubunutu ? That's where the Gnomes are...
[09:41] <joel> oh ok thakns
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> #ubuntu that is of course
[09:41] <joel> LOL NICE
[09:41] <joel> hhehe
[09:41] <joel> ill see if i survive linux
[09:41] <joel> or whatever
[09:43] <kraut> moin
[09:44] <RawSewage> Yay, update
[09:45] <intelikey> joel the webpage says he/she 's developing on fc but the makefile calls  cc  not gcc  and i failed to get it to build.  although i'm not interested in puting much effort into it.
[09:45] <intelikey> hmm too late.
[09:46] <bobbyyu> Hello? Holler if you hear me!
[09:47] <RawSewage> all Gnome updates
[09:48] <intelikey> last k up's convoluted my kdm screen   but ked seems ok.
[09:48] <bobbyyu> Why doesn't the external floppy drive recognise my diskettes?
[09:48] <intelikey> mount them
[09:49] <bobbyyu> How?
[09:49] <intelikey> mount <device> <mount_point>
[09:49] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[09:50] <intelikey> assumes the device is fd0  being external probably more like sda  or something     and assumes that the mount point /media/floppy  exists.  you can mkdir /media/floppy  as needed.
[09:51] <joel_> no
[09:51] <joel_> im still
[09:51] <joel_> here
[09:51] <joel_> for the doc
[09:51] <joel_> k
[09:51] <joel_> lol
[09:51] <joel_> trippy
[09:52] <intelikey> !enter
[09:52] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:52] <nrdb> I would like to find where the scripts are that get executed when you press the power button, does anyone know where or how I can find this?
[09:52] <joel_> intelikey
[09:52] <joel_> yo
[09:53] <joel_> are you still here?
[09:53] <intelikey> "press the power button" ???  nrdb ?
[09:53] <intelikey> maybe joel_
[09:53] <bobbyyu> Error message: Must specify file type
[09:53] <joel_> What was that about the dock? I didnt understaind what you said...
[09:53] <intelikey> bobbyyu then it's not the right device node.
[09:53] <nrdb> intelikey: yes the big button on the front of the computer.
[09:54] <intelikey> nrdb mine is a manual switch if i press it nothing gets ran the power is killed.
[09:55] <bobbyyu> The problem is when the floppy drive reads into a disk, it takes a long while. It doesn't take as long in Windows (I dual-booted).
[09:55] <nrdb> intelikey: if the BIOS is set right and the motherboard handles it, I get a window asking what type of action to do reset/shutdow/logout etc.
[09:56] <Emess> hi, is there a way to configure multiple soundcards to play amarok simutaneously? i have audio ports at teh front of my pc and have headphones in them, but i want to play thru my stereo thats plugged into the back, any one know?
[09:56] <joel> no
[09:57] <joel> because the same sound card controls the rear and the front ports
[09:57] <joel> when you plug in the headphones it switches
[09:57] <intelikey> joel_ i said i dl'd the tarball unpacked it looked at the make file and it is calling "cc"    linux uses "gcc"   but the webpage says that the guy/gall  is using fc (fedora core) to develop that thing.    so i don't know what to tell you.   i ran a 'make' no it but no go.
[09:57] <danke> another question about amarok: how is it possible to play ape (monkey) files ?
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Emess: Just because you have jacks in the front and in the back you don't necessarily have 2 sound devices...
[09:58] <joel> Thanks Inelikey
[09:58] <rikioh> should my hdd be formatted a certain way before trying to boot this cd milhouse cuz im getting the same errors
[09:58] <Emess> i do. i have my pc's onboard audio for teh front and back, and my SB Audigy in the back
[09:58] <rikioh> with the new disc
[09:58] <joel> in that case
[09:59] <intelikey> nrdb linux doesn't care much about bios.   if you press the power button and you get a selection from linux it's probably init.
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: That seems to be beyond my knowledge... But _before_ you install it, nothing is done to your harddrive
[09:59] <joel> you can maybe run to instances of amarok. set one to play on the SB and one one the integrated card
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Did you reburn the LiveCD or did you d/l the alternate CD now?
[10:00] <rikioh> the alternate cd is downloading
[10:00] <rikioh> i just reburned live
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Did you check the md5 checksum of the .iso?
[10:00] <Emess> would setting amarok to use teh audigy, and then using teh secondary output to link it to my onboard work?
[10:01] <Emess> so it just playds thru 2 ports on the audigy?
[10:01] <joel> it should
[10:01] <joel> thats how i have 2 computers on one set of spealers
[10:01] <joel> *speakers
[10:01] <Emess> testing...yup, it works :)
[10:02] <Emess> and now my panel has frozen...
[10:02] <joel> wow
[10:02] <joel> make sure you didnt bump any hardware in the back
[10:02] <Emess> no, i think it stopped before i did that, because adept is still open and i closed it ebfore then
[10:02] <joel> hmm..
[10:02] <joel> well
[10:03] <joel> the change you did should not give you a probel
[10:03] <joel> *problem
[10:03] <joel> its analog
[10:03] <Emess> is there a way to just refresh the panel?
[10:03] <zan> hello there :D... i'z got a question! :D... i have a nvidia geforce graphics card... from where should i install the drivers? (for 3d acceleration :D)
[10:04] <joel> you are asking that  to the wrong guy....
[10:04] <joel> sorry emess this is abotuas muchas i can help you
[10:04] <Emess> thanks
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> !nvidia > zan
[10:05] <zan> nvidia.com?
[10:05] <joel> yes
[10:05] <zan> or is there a driver?
[10:05] <Emess> it was wierd, it was plaiyng in mono on  the stereo until i pulled out the headphone cord andhten it was fine :S
[10:05] <liviux> hi all. I don't can read mpeg and dvd from my kubuntu. What's the needed pack? I installed w32codecs but it doesn't works
[10:05] <zan> in the package database?
[10:05] <joel> wow
[10:05] <joel> hmm
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia
[10:05] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[10:05] <intelikey> Emess [alt] +[f2]    type in   sudo killall kicker ;kicker
[10:06] <Emess> liviux: tru a codec program like automatix, otehrwise read the ubuntu wiki
[10:06] <liviux> thanks
[10:06] <joel> see ya guys
[10:06] <liviux> automatix
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Wasn't automatix buggy in Dapper?
[10:06] <Emess> ERROR: kicker is already running!
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> !automatix
[10:06] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:07] <Emess> yeah automatix didnt work for me, i jsut used apt-get
[10:07] <intelikey> maybe kdesu in place of sudo    meh.
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyone familiar with wine? in #winehq it's pretty silent...
[10:08] <Emess> ok now its really wierd, i killed kicker, but it didnt go away, then i started it, and now i have a blank bar and teh nromal bar udnerneath is :O
[10:08] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator
[10:08] <intelikey> that's about all i know about that.
[10:09] <Emess> and its missing all ym normal shortcuts
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Wine as in fermented grape juice, intelikey?
[10:09] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock i know a little more about that. yeah.
[10:09] <Emess> brb, restarting kde to see if that helps
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> thought that won't help me much, especially at 10am ...
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> WB abattoir
[10:10] <danke> anyone has success in reading lossless audio files .ape on dapper ?
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Did your dog enjoy the bath?
[10:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks... hehe... no, poor thing :(
[10:12] <intelikey> ok give me one good reason that he shouldn't
[10:12] <intelikey> opps
[10:18] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I export mp3s with audacity?
[10:22] <wolfmanz> djdarkman you may need a mp3 plugin for that
[10:25] <zan> i red the binarydriverhowto/nvidia, but i can't seem to find the Restricted copyright box to check it :(
[10:26] <wolfmanz> zan you trying to install the driver?
[10:26] <zan> wolfmanz yes
[10:27] <wolfmanz> check outa  program called easy ubuntu
[10:27] <wolfmanz> that has options for installing the ati and nvidia drivers
[10:28] <intelikey> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <intelikey> !nvidia
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <wolfmanz> watch some of them how tos the one i had for the ATI driver was wrong and waisted loads of my time
[10:28] <intelikey> they sure shortened that didn't they.
[10:29] <zan> the only problem was that i don't find from where to enable the restricted packages...
[10:29] <intelikey> it used to have three links and a referance to !easyubuntu
[10:30] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[10:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:46] <danke> Hi, I can read audio lossless files .ape in xmms but cant do it on amarok, any idea where I can get info ?
[10:47] <Lynoure> danke: someone here might know, but if google didn't help,  I'd try asking on #amarok
[10:47] <danke> oki, thanks :)
[10:48] <fritsch> danke: http://morgoth.free.fr/ubports/
[10:51] <ricardo> hi everybody....
[10:51] <TehKewl1> hi
[10:52] <ricardo> i live in france (french keyboard) but i want to use linux in english...i also do lot of work (with accents..) must be correctly shown in windows machines and websites....
[10:52] <ricardo> what is the correct configuration for etc/environment...?
[10:52] <ricardo> iso ? utf? help me please!
[10:53] <fritsch> ricardo: UTF-8 should be able to display everything
[10:54] <ricardo> when reading windows generated files i needed to change krusader encoding to iso...
[10:54] <ricardo> fritsch:
[10:55] <fritsch> ricardo: ah okay
[10:55] <ricardo> and when reading text files in french...i had to do the same thing with Kate...
[10:55] <fritsch> ricardo: they are written in ISO-8859-1 I think
[10:55] <fritsch> ricardo: that`s the problem
[10:56] <fritsch> ricardo: you can read everything written in UTF-8
[10:56] <ricardo> fritsch: me too....so..for now LANG = "en_US" and LANGUAGE = "en_US"....
[10:57] <fritsch> ricardo: try this http://japanese.china.org.cn/japanese/index.htm in iso :-) no luck at all
[10:57] <ricardo> fritsch: moreover when i write mails over gmail....accents are not displayed correctly to the receiver....
[10:57] <fritsch> ricardo: utf-8 is the way to go in teh future
[10:57] <ricardo> why?
[10:57] <ricardo> fritsch: iso is a STANDARD...
[10:58] <fritsch> ricardo: yes it is "one" of them
[10:59] <thejusticecow> !apt
[10:59] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:59] <fritsch> ricardo: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
[11:00] <hugelmopf> does anybody have a kopete package, that fixes the new "too old" bug?
[11:00] <hugelmopf> (for connecting to ICQ)
[11:00] <fritsch> hugelmopf: which version
[11:01] <fritsch> hugelmopf: i built today a 3.5.4 version but do not want recommand an upgrade to you
[11:01] <fritsch> hugelmopf: the patch is only a one liner
[11:02] <hugelmopf> fritsch: i am using kopete 0.12 right now (including the fix for "client too old" that was needed a few weeks ago), but now the ICQ server again says "client too old", and the #kopete channel topic confirms this as fixed in the latest svn.
[11:03] <fritsch> hugelmopf: do you have the sources installed? from which repesetory (f** word) do you use it?
[11:03] <ricardo> fritsch: so in theory UTF should recognise ISO 8859 characters? or should i convert all my files and directories to UTF....? will a window machine be able to correctly read those files?
[11:03] <fritsch> ricardo: no UTF tries to read the ISO Files as UTF, this gives problems for      etc.
[11:03] <Bazzi_> ricardo: no, no and no.
[11:04] <hugelmopf> yes, i have the sources. i used jriddels kopete package and applied that one fix. can you show me the patch for the latest bug?
[11:04] <fritsch> http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=17185&action=view
[11:04] <hugelmopf> fritsch: thanks a lot, will try it later
[11:04] <fritsch> hugelmopf: it builds a long time
[11:05] <Bazzi_> ricardo: problem is that those charsets are implemented in userland, e.g. Windows itself can handle Unicode files but e.g. UltraEdit cannot (just an example, I don't know if it actually can)
[11:06] <intelikey> or do everything in C
[11:08] <Hobbsee> anyone around here using kde 3.5.2 and kopete?
[11:09] <ricardo> fritsch: hum......so...is there any COMPLETE solution?
[11:09] <fritsch> ricardo: I think no :-(
[11:10] <fritsch> ricardo: just had to convert all iso files while installing kubuntu
[11:10] <fritsch> Hobbsee: mmh no connection possible? ;-)
[11:10] <Hobbsee> fritsch: huh?
[11:10] <fritsch> Hobbsee: what the problem with this combination?
[11:11] <Hobbsee> ah, got it to work, it's okay
[11:12] <intelikey> who uses 'ed' ?
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[11:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:14] <ricardo> fritsch: look...i just did a little experiment...
[11:15] <ricardo> fritsch: there is something that is freaking me out...
[11:15] <ROBOd> hello
[11:15] <fritsch> ricardo: okay?
[11:15] <ROBOd> is KDE 3.5.4 available?
[11:15] <fritsch> ROBOd: no don`t use it
[11:15] <ricardo> fritsch: i created an ISO and  UTF file with special caracters with kate
[11:15] <fritsch> ROBOd: currently the kubuntu customazations are broken
[11:16] <ricardo> fritsch: then i opened both files in xp...
[11:16] <fritsch> ricardo: okay, i am with you
[11:16] <ricardo> fritsch: most of the characters were not readable!
[11:16] <fritsch> ricardo: depends on the software you used to open
[11:16] <ricardo> fritsch: but that is not all.....then i created a WIN txt with the same characters....
[11:16] <ROBOd> fritsch: i have kde 3.5.3 from kubuntu.com
[11:16] <ricardo> fritsch: in win i used classic notepad
[11:17] <ROBOd> fritsch: if they'll add kde 3.5.4 i'll get that too :)
[11:17] <fritsch> ROBOd: good, keep it - till kubuntu.org announces 3.5.4
[11:17] <ROBOd> aha, thanks
[11:17] <fritsch> ricardo: classic notepad is really too silly
[11:17] <ricardo> fritsch: then i come back to kubuntu an ALL files are displayed with errors....yes ...you heard me right...ALL of the files...even the linux created ones!!!
[11:17] <fritsch> ricardo: it even does not know about linux ne lines \n
[11:17] <ROBOd> fritsch: thing is, i have ubuntu anyway ... i just need konqueror, quanta and some other small packages from kde, not the entire package
[11:18] <fritsch> ricardo: i think the linux way is utf-8
[11:18] <fritsch> ricardo: let us see what vista does
[11:18] <ROBOd> (not the entire meta-package, that is)
[11:18] <ROBOd> fritsch: any ETA for KDE 3.5.4 on kubuntu.com ?
[11:18] <fritsch> ROBOd: there are beta packages, but do not use them
[11:19] <ricardo> fritsch: like i said...i need compatibility....i use windows at work...most of my friends use windows....
[11:19] <fritsch> ROBOd: some problems: no kubuntu customazations, the kopete version is not uptodate ..
[11:19] <fritsch> ricardo: perhaps your way to go should be ISO, but apple uses UTF for default
[11:19] <ROBOd> i have added the kde-latest package repository from kubuntu
[11:19] <fritsch> ricardo: too
[11:20] <ROBOd> it seems kde 3.5.4 hasn't yet been added
[11:20] <fritsch> ROBOd: this is just a symlink to kde-353
[11:20] <ROBOd> fritsch: when they'll come out of beta? :)
[11:20] <fritsch> ROBOd: lol don`t know, ask Riddell
[11:20] <ROBOd> Riddell: any ETA for kde 3.5.4? non-beta release
[11:20] <ROBOd> :)
[11:21] <IzEBaLL> !easysource
[11:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:21] <fritsch> ROBOd: replace the "latest" with 354
[11:21] <fritsch> ROBOd: and be warned again
[11:22] <ROBOd> ok, thanks
[11:23] <ROBOd> i'll wait like a good kid, until they make it official
[11:23] <ROBOd> thanks for the info, gtg now
[11:23] <fritsch> ROBOd: good kid :-)
[11:23] <ROBOd> hehe, lol
[11:23] <ROBOd> bye bye :)
[11:23] <fritsch> bye
[11:25] <intelikey> well well well !   i just learned that if inittab has commented out tty's  it opens them anyway but just doesn't run getty on them.
[11:28] <intelikey> that is mos' enercin'
[11:30] <ph3r> Hmm, Kubuntu hangs during boot. How can I check error logs?
[11:31] <fritsch> ph3r: first disable the splash screen
[11:31] <fritsch> ph3r: and look where it hangs
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello Ignite__
[11:32] <damian_> anyone know how to get the java plugin to work under firefox
[11:32] <ph3r> fritsch: how do I go about disabling the splash screen?
[11:32] <fritsch> sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:33] <fritsch> here you see deoptions=quiet splash ....
[11:33] <fritsch> delete splash from this line
[11:33] <fritsch> rund sudo update-grub
[11:33] <fritsch> after that reboot
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> and run update-grbu
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> and run update-grub*
[11:33] <Ignite__> hello MilhousePunkRock
[11:34] <fritsch> ph3r: deoptions means defoptions (typo)
[11:35] <ph3r> thanks
[11:40] <ph3r> fritsch: it's hanging on Starting hardware abstraction layer hald
[11:40] <intelikey> figgers.
[11:44] <fritsch> ph3r: did  you compile a custom kernel?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> can someone on dapper do me a couple favors i just need package info
[11:48] <gnomefreak> i need full output of apt-cache policy gnome-panel and apt-cache policy gnome-session
[11:48] <gnomefreak> no i dont care if its installd
[11:48] <fritsch> gnomefreak: sure
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:49] <fritsch> gnomefreak: per mail, per paste-bin?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> pastebin is fine
[11:51] <fritsch> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19371
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:52] <gnomefreak> perfect ;)
[11:52] <gnomefreak> thank you so much
[11:53] <fritsch> gnomefreak: hehe, good idea the coffee, but milc is gone
[11:53] <fritsch> gnomefreak: no problem at all :-) (still looking at the 3.5.4 kde issues)
[11:55] <gnomefreak> fritsch: i will be in a bit (has someone filied a bug on it yet?
[11:56] <fritsch> gnomefreak: no, because nobody knows what to fill - working, without the customazations
[11:56] <PsySine> is there any way to disable the blue transparent selection rectangle?
[11:56] <fritsch> gnomefreak: and because these are beta packages?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> beta shouldnt matter seeing as its going into edgy
[11:57] <gnomefreak> brb going for coffee
[11:57] <fritsch> gnomefreak: If I select "crystal" style <- the default style, i can see the preview, but if click on okay, it is not used
[11:57] <zan> hello! i was trying to install the nvidia drivers by executing the following command (of course after installing the packages and making a backup of xorg.conf): "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" it returned
[11:57] <zan> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:57] <zan> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:57] <zan> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:57] <zan> command:
[11:57] <zan> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:57] <zan> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[11:57] <zan> from nv to nvidia.
[11:57] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i compiled the latest kwin-style from debian (dpkg-buildpackage) but no change
[11:58] <fritsch> gnomefreak: :-)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> zan: use pastebin
[11:58] <dnoc> Hi all
[11:58] <zan> how?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ok brb need coffee
[11:58] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:59] <dnoc> Guys I have a case here and I need help, any body have some time?
[12:00] <fritsch> dnoc: depends ;-)
[12:00] <dnoc> ok
[12:00] <dnoc> then let me put it down
[12:00] <dnoc> I am trying to install knetstats
[12:00] <dnoc> I got the .tar file from the website
[12:00] <dnoc> it requier scons
[12:01] <dnoc> I intalled that
[12:01] <dnoc> as the readme stats
[12:01] <dnoc> i issueed the command scons install
[12:01] <dnoc> and i keep getting the following error
[12:02] <dnoc> scons: *** No SConstruct file found.
[12:02] <dnoc> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/SCons/Script/__init__.py", line 870, in _main
[12:02] <dnoc> I tryed the deb package with no hope too
[12:03] <fritsch> dnoc: did you run scons in the right directory?
[12:04] <dnoc> yap
[12:04] <fritsch> http://www.sourcentral.org/man/debian-stable/1+scons <-
[12:04] <fritsch> dnoc: you can give him a sconstruct file with the -f option
[12:05] <fritsch> dnoc: it needs it, i think
[12:05] <Ash-Fox> !fonts
[12:05] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:05] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:05] <zan> !nvidia
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <soben> Hello everybody
[12:06] <dnoc> I wiiilll try that
[12:06] <dnoc> thank you for your time
[12:07] <damian_> anyone know how to get the java plugin to work under firefox
[12:07] <fritsch> damian_: apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[12:08] <damian_> I tried that
[12:08] <fritsch> damian_: perhaps enable multiverse, universe
[12:08] <damian_> but I get errors
[12:08] <fritsch> damian_: restart firefox
[12:08] <damian_> I'll show you
[12:08] <damian_> hold on a sec
[12:08] <fritsch> damian_: don`t paste too much here in
[12:08] <damian_> I won't
[12:09] <damian_> ok
[12:09] <damian_> it says it depends on sun-java5-bin
[12:09] <damian_> but supposedly I already installed that with EasyUbunty
[12:10] <damian_> ubuntu*
[12:10] <fritsch> damian_: then do apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[12:10] <damian_> well I do that
[12:10] <damian_> and I get another error..
[12:10] <damian_> hold on...
[12:10] <gnomefreak> fritsch: ok what package does this (bug) have in common? i guess what package controls this
[12:11] <fritsch> gnomefreak: kdelibs*
[12:11] <damian_> wow
[12:11] <gnomefreak> oh no
[12:11] <damian_> I can't believe I did that
[12:11] <damian_> this whole time I've been declining the license agreement
[12:12] <soben> I cannot enter Adept. It said "The APT Database could not be opened! This may caused by incorrect APT configuration...". Anyone know how to solve this problem?
[12:12] <fritsch> gnomefreak: further symptom: you can choose the  decoration "crystal" but it does not use it
[12:13] <gnomefreak> excuse my ignorance but kdelibs depend on to work? i ask this cause kdelibs was fixed as i thought
[12:13] <damian_> where do Isun-java5-jre get
[12:13] <gnomefreak> damian_: multiverse repo
[12:13] <gnomefreak> !repos > damian_
[12:13] <fritsch> gnomefreak: whole kde "seems" working
[12:13] <gnomefreak> damian_: please read your pm from ubotu
[12:13] <fritsch> gnomefreak: but, the kubuntu customazations are not used/working
[12:14] <fritsch> gnomefreak: crystal decoration can be previewed but not enabled
[12:14] <fritsch> gnomefreak: perhaps something of kubuntu-default-settings builds against wrong libs?
[12:14] <dnoc> I am feedup with this
[12:14] <gnomefreak> fritsch: im going on the assumption that since it works in edgy and doesnt in dapper its something in dapper stopping it from using them
[12:14] <dnoc> I can't make it work
[12:15] <gnomefreak> dnoc: what?
[12:15] <damian_> jre is not in any of the repositories
[12:15] <gnomefreak> damian_: its in multiverse repo
[12:15] <dnoc> anybody know of a deb package for knetstats 1.6?
[12:15] <damian_> I looked there
[12:15] <damian_> I can't find it
[12:15] <gnomefreak> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:15] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[12:15] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[12:15] <damian_> sigh
[12:15] <gnomefreak> damian_: make sure its multiverse not backports multiverse you have enabled
[12:16] <damian_> I did that a while ago
[12:16] <fritsch> gnomefreak: another bug I found this morning: the 3.5.4 kopete client is to old, fix is a one liner
[12:16] <damian_> all repos are enabled
[12:16] <damian_> is win32codec also supposed to be in multiverse?
[12:16] <damian_> there are tons of libs that I couldn't find in any of the repos
[12:16] <gnomefreak> damian_: can you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[12:16] <damian_> even the documentation said it would be there
[12:16] <damian_> ok
[12:16] <gnomefreak> damian_: no w32codecs are not in any repos
[12:17] <dnoc> anybody know of a deb package for knetstats 1.6?
[12:17] <damian_> what exactly is pastebin
[12:17] <damian_> I'm not too familiar with irc
[12:17] <gnomefreak> dnoc: try google if its different than the version in your repos
[12:17] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:17] <dnoc> I did, no hope
[12:17] <fritsch> dnoc: http://www.0x5c.net/knetstats/
[12:17] <dnoc> even the one in the repos is not working
[12:17] <dnoc> it keep giving me error
[12:18] <zan> can anyone help me please? i am trying to install the nvidia drivers... i installed the nvidia glx package, the kernel module was already installed, but when i hit "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" i get an error
[12:18] <zan> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[12:18] <zan> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[12:19] <fritsch> zan: no problem: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:19] <zan> sorry
[12:19] <fritsch> zan: replace nv with nvidia
[12:19] <zan> should i remove the load dri?
[12:19] <zan> and glcore...
[12:19] <fritsch> zan: be sure you have installed linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and nvidia-glx
[12:19] <zan> they are installed :D
[12:19] <damian_> ok I posted it
[12:20] <gnomefreak> damian_: link please
[12:20] <fritsch> damian_: link?
[12:20] <dnoc> fritsch I tryed that page
[12:20] <damian_> name=damian
[12:20] <damian_> ok
[12:20] <damian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19375
[12:20] <zan> fritsch: no need to remove load dri?
[12:20] <dnoc> oh man, this only with knetstats
[12:20] <fritsch> damian_: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[12:20] <gnomefreak> damian_: do you see the lines that end in universe
[12:20] <dnoc> i don't know what i will incounter with xgl?!!
[12:20] <fritsch> damian_: add multiverse
[12:20] <gnomefreak> fritsch: ty
[12:21] <fritsch> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse <- has too look like this
[12:21] <gnomefreak> dnoc: nothing good
[12:21] <damian_> so add multiverse to the lines that end in universe?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> damian_: yes it should be universe multiverse
[12:22] <gnomefreak> damian_: than save close and run sudo apt-get update
[12:22] <gnomefreak> fritsch: ok where were we
[12:22] <damian_> ok
[12:22] <fritsch> gnomefreak: kubuntu-default-settings is prevented from working
[12:23] <fritsch> gnomefreak: my idea: compiled against incompatible lib, but i recompiled
[12:23] <gnomefreak> and it didnt work?
[12:23] <fritsch> gnomefreak: /etc/kderc is read correctly, i looked in with strace
[12:23] <fritsch> gnomefreak: compiling went fine, but did not work afterwards
[12:24] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i take the kubuntu-default-settings from edgy and compile this one (we`ll see)
[12:24] <zan> should i remove the load "dri" line from xorg.conf???????
[12:24] <fritsch> zan: try :-)
[12:24] <fritsch> zan: nvidia does not need it
[12:24] <fritsch> zan: but just replacing nv with nvidia should be fine
[12:24] <zan> who does?
[12:24] <zan> ok... 10x a lot! :D
[12:24] <fritsch> zan: radeon dri for ex
[12:24] <zan> aha
[12:24] <fritsch> zan: do not forget nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ut oh
[12:25] <gnomefreak> hold that thought
[12:26] <gnomefreak> 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0  is that your version of kdelibs?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> ha
[12:27] <gnomefreak> i dont even have them installed
[12:27] <fritsch> gnomefreak: 3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[12:27] <gnomefreak> fritsch: installeD?
[12:27] <fritsch> kdelibs 4c2a installed kdelibs4-dev installed kdelibs-data installed
[12:27] <fritsch> gnomefreak: every version is: 3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[12:27] <gnomefreak> not here
[12:27] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:28] <fritsch> okay, which shal i remove
[12:28] <gnomefreak> hold on
[12:28] <fritsch> gnomefreak: you did a dist-upgrade *g*?
[12:28] <fritsch> gnomefreak: what says: dpkg -l |grep 3.5.3
[12:28] <gnomefreak> kdelibs-data = 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1
[12:29] <fritsch> ii  kdelibs-data                           3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[12:29] <damian_> ok I got everything to work just fine
[12:29] <damian_> thanks guys!
[12:29] <fritsch> okay, i remove the kdelibs42c
[12:29] <fritsch> gnomefreak: cannot break *G* anything
[12:30] <gnomefreak> you removed kdelibs42c?
[12:30] <fritsch> gnomefreak: no removing is not possible in any way - wnats to uninstall every kde app
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:30] <fritsch> gnomefreak: no i tried to, because you do not have it installed
[12:31] <gnomefreak> yes i do
[12:31] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i build the edgy kubuntu-default-settings, mom
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ii  kdelibs-data                           3.5.4-0ubuntu1                        core shared data for all KDE applications
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ii  kdelibs4c2a                            3.5.4-0ubuntu1                        core libraries and binaries for all KDE appl
[12:31] <gnomefreak> those are the 2 i have related to kdelibs i think
[12:32] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i have the same instlled
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:32] <fritsch> gnomefreak: okay the edgy backport of the default-settings was not the problem
[12:32] <gnomefreak> i have idea
[12:34] <gnomefreak> fritsch: match yorus up with this make sure everything is same http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19376
[12:34] <fritsch> gnomefreak: okay, ill wait - just downgraded
[12:34] <fritsch> okay, wait
[12:34] <gnomefreak> take your time
[12:37] <fritsch> gnomefreak: mmmh diff does not like the inputs
[12:37] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yours i have pasted is very malformated after that
[12:37] <fritsch> gnomefreak: by hand
[12:43] <gnomefreak> fritsch: sorry i hit wrong x
[12:43] <gnomefreak> can you run a backtrace or strace against the setting mangler?
[12:43] <fritsch> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19378
[12:44] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i pasted mine below ...
[12:44] <gnomefreak> k
[12:44] <fritsch> gnomefreak: could not see sth. relevant with the "first" look
[12:45] <zan> hi! how can i install the mozilla browser (not firefox)?
[12:45] <fritsch> zan: sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser
[12:45] <gnomefreak> think i just foiund it
[12:45] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Riddell: ping
[12:46] <fritsch> gnomefreak: can i suggest sth. for the 3.5.4 packages?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ksmserver                              3.5.4-0ubuntu1 mine
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ksmserver                              3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1  yours
[12:47] <fritsch> ksmserver                              3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ~dapper1 is what bothers me
[12:47] <Travis> Gah, what is the command for the databases? $ Sudo Synaptics?
[12:47] <fritsch> gnomefreak: ~dapper1 is also missing in others?
[12:47] <fritsch> gnomefreak: compared
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Travis: synaptic and adept are in the menus
[12:47] <gnomefreak> fritsch: correct
[12:47] <Travis> ah, which menuis
[12:47] <gnomefreak> im hoping riddell has the .diffs on them
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Travis: are you on kde or gnome?
[12:48] <fritsch> gnomefreak: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=17185&action=view <- this has to go in, or nobody can connect to icq
[12:48] <Travis> kde
[12:48] <fritsch> gnomefreak: but other "baustelle", just wanted to menation
[12:48] <gnomefreak> fritsch: where is adept in kde menu
[12:48] <Riddell> gnomefreak: hmm?
[12:48] <fritsch> KDEicon -> System -> Adept
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Riddell: whats the differnece in ~dapper1 pacackes?
[12:49] <RogueX> Anyone very familiar with Konversation?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> packages even
[12:49] <Travis> thanks
[12:49] <Riddell> gnomefreak: they're built for dapper
[12:49] <Ace2005> Help! i restarted my computer and my fonts look crappy
[12:49] <Travis> thanks guys :] 
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Riddell: im wondering if that could even be the issue (looked like it at first
[12:49] <fritsch> Ace2005: the weather is not so nice outside
[12:50] <Ace2005> They are smaller, and harder to read and don't look as good
[12:50] <fritsch> Ace2005: kde?
[12:50] <fritsch> Ace2005: go to control settings and choose another?
[12:50] <Ace2005> fritsch: Well yes kde, thats why i'm in #kubuntu
[12:50] <gnomefreak> here is the comparison dapper to edgy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19378
[12:50] <Travis> any way I can get synaptic? I've had it before on KDE
[12:50] <Ace2005> fritsch: I think its because i ran dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:50] <fritsch> Ace2005: just wanted to ask, some come to #kubuntu using gnome and just use konqueror or so
[12:51] <fritsch> Ace2005: okay, perhaps your font paths have changed
[12:51] <Ace2005> fritsch: I restored the backup made by xorg but it did nothing
[12:51] <fritsch> paste your config in the pastebin
[12:51] <fritsch> Ace2005: after restore have you restarted kdm?
[12:51] <Ace2005> yes
[12:51] <Ace2005> i restarted the computer as well
[12:52] <fritsch> Ace2005: are all fonts looking like this?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> makes me think something in the ~dapper1 has changed in edgy and thats where the difference is
[12:52] <Riddell> gnomefreak: I don't think there's any non dapper packages in that archive except source
[12:52] <Ace2005> fritsch: Yup in everything fom konversation to the run dialogue to kwrite, let me check some gnome apps
[12:52] <Travis> '
[12:53] <Travis> '
[12:53] <Travis> any way I can get synaptic? I've had it before on KDE
[12:53] <Ace2005> fritsch: They are screwed as well
[12:53] <Ace2005> Travis: apt-get install synaptic
[12:53] <fritsch> Ace2005: log in as another user and have alook
[12:53] <Ace2005> Travis: and then run synaptic using "kdesu synaptic"
[12:53] <Travis> bah humbug, the computer i am working with doesn't have internet atm
[12:53] <Ace2005> fritsch: Like root?
[12:53] <fritsch> Ace2005: no
[12:54] <Ace2005> fritsch: Thats the only other user there is
[12:54] <gnomefreak> hmm
[12:54] <fritsch> Ace2005: create another
[12:54] <fritsch> Ace2005: we have to look if this are your user settings
[12:54] <fritsch> Ace2005: was the font also incorrect on the kdm screen?
[12:55] <Ace2005> fritsch: i think so
[12:55] <fritsch> Riddell: you got that, that i can preview the default crystal theme, but it does not change using it, the other default decos are fine
[12:56] <Ace2005> fritsch: How come kuser is allowing me to have a capital letter in the username?
[12:56] <zan> what should i install for mp3z?
[12:56] <fritsch> dont kno
[12:56] <gnomefreak> !mp3 > zan
[12:56] <fritsch> !restrictedformats
[12:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <Ace2005> fritsch: I'll be back after i log in to the new account
[12:57] <gnomefreak> fritsch: can you grab the ksmserver.deb from pakcages.ubuntu.com/edgy and see if it helps?
[12:57] <fritsch> yes
[12:58] <fritsch> gnomefreak: have to recompile it
[12:59] <gnomefreak> why no deb?
[12:59] <fritsch> libc
[12:59] <gnomefreak> try it but i dont think it will help than
[12:59] <fritsch> ksmserver hngt ab von libc6 (>= 2.4-1); aber:
[01:00] <fritsch> hihi reinstalled the dapper one kdm crahsed freeze :-)
[01:00] <fritsch> gnomefreak: give your kdm a STRG ALT Backspace
[01:00] <fritsch> gnomefreak: crashes also?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> just alt backspace?
[01:00] <fritsch> CTRL alt Backspace
[01:01] <fritsch> gnomefreak: to force restart
[01:01] <gnomefreak> it will restart kdm
[01:01] <fritsch> gnomefreak: cool mine crashes hard freeze
[01:01] <fritsch> gnomefreak: try again after todesstern comes up again
[01:02] <gnomefreak> brb let me boot kde
[01:02] <Ace2007> fritsch: The fonts are fine for the new user
[01:02] <fritsch> Ace2007: so your user settings are the problem
[01:02] <Ace2007> fritsch: seems so
[01:02] <fritsch> Ace2007: nothing to do with xorg.conf
[01:03] <Ace2007> fritsch: I'n now logged in as the new user
[01:03] <Ace2007> fritsch: Maybe i should delete all the personal fonts i have in my fonts:/ dir?
[01:05] <fritsch> Ace2007: try
[01:07] <zan> what gstreamer should i install? i cannot find the ugly and bad ones :(
[01:07] <Ace2007> Hi can someone who has a quite fresh install of kubuntu tell me how many fonts you have in fonts:/System i have 755 i never put there
[01:07] <eeos> hi there, anyone with experienc eof using rosegarden on kubuntu?
[01:07] <Ace2007> and they are ugly
[01:08] <zan> !mp3
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <fritsch> Ace2007: backup your .kde directory
[01:08] <fritsch> Ace2007: move it out of the way, your .fonts too
[01:08] <fritsch> Ace2007: and retry setting up
[01:09] <Ace2007> fritsch: oh that'll take forever
[01:09] <fritsch> Ace2007: h? why?
[01:09] <Ace2007> fritsch: how many fonts do you have in fonts:/system?
[01:09] <fritsch> Ace2007: wargh! don` t do anything for the whole system, stay in your home
[01:10] <Ace2007> fritsch: But how many?
[01:10] <fritsch> Ace2007: don`t know
[01:10] <fritsch> Ace2007: dont`t want too look
[01:13] <Ace2007> fritsch: but 755 fonts and about 300 fonts which i like and i put into personal, thats like a 1000 fonts!!! and most of them suck!
[01:13] <Ace2007> can someone tell me how many fonts you have in fonts:/system ?
[01:13] <fritsch> Ace2007: kubuntu default install?
[01:14] <Ace2007> yup
[01:14] <fritsch> Ace2007: font:/system does not work in konqueror for me
[01:15] <Ace2007> y?
[01:15] <fritsch> Ace2007: fonts of course
[01:15] <Ace2007> sorry i forgot the capital S, fonts:/System
[01:15] <roland17> oups not in french?
[01:16] <Ace2007> 1fr
[01:16] <Ace2007> !fr
[01:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:16] <Ace2007> only english here
[01:16] <ThunderStruck> ok that doesnt restart cleanly
[01:16] <fritsch> Ace2007: 250 items in there
[01:16] <Fjodor> Kopete seems to be ragarded too old a client for ICQ again. Hobbsee pointed me to sources for 0.12.1, so that's what I use. Will there be another updated sources with the patch from the kopete forum that seems to fix it (again)?
[01:16] <roland17> thank you !
[01:16] <Hobbsee> Fjodor: done x2.   in edgy and dapper official packages.  hours ago.
[01:17] <Ace2007> fritsch: now could you by any chance put them into an archive and put them on rapidshare?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> Fjodor: no, i'm not updating that one, patch is in kdesvn if you want to patch your kopete with it.
[01:17] <Fjodor> Hobbsee: Wonderful! Thanks. What was the link again?
[01:17] <fritsch> Ace2007: no, this will break the dpkg system
[01:17] <Ace2007> fritsch: how?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> Fjodor: or you can try to use the current edgy packages, and build them for dapper.  but they may not build, iirc
[01:18] <Hobbsee> Fjodor: the link no longer exists
[01:18] <fritsch> Ace2007: putting files over files into your system
[01:18] <fritsch> Ace2007: if you install the correct pacakges the cannot be overwritten
[01:18] <Fjodor> Hobbsee: Indeed. You pointed me to some sources on motu, I think
[01:18] <Fjodor> Hobbsee: Ah, ok
[01:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: mmmh could you get a freeze, too?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> nope
[01:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: me not again, too
[01:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: just worked once ;-)
[01:19] <gnomefreak> fritsch: can you restart your kicker for me real fast
[01:19] <Fjodor> Hobbsee: Well, thanks still :-)
[01:19] <gnomefreak> and let me know if anything changes
[01:19] <fritsch> okay done
[01:19] <fritsch> killed it and started it
[01:19] <gnomefreak> nothing changed?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> fritsch: did you get system defaults back?
[01:20] <Ace2007> how do i get dpkg to tell me which package has put Borg9 on my system?
[01:20] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes
[01:20] <fritsch> gnomefreak: these are not the kubuntu ones
[01:21] <fritsch> gnomefreak: but it`s logging sth in my terminal, i read
[01:21] <gnomefreak> kde defaults?
[01:21] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes he reads /usr/share/applications/kde/
[01:22] <Ace2007> Wait a sec i have an idea, if i delete all the files in System, will it take effect before i logout?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> theres something hitting us right in the face and we cant see it
[01:22] <Ace2007> I'm going to pop into synaptic, write down the font files dependant on kubuntu-desktop and tell it to reinstall them ;)
[01:23] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i paste my .xsession-log to paste-bin
[01:23] <fritsch> .xsession-errors
[01:23] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[01:25] <fritsch> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19381
[01:25] <Ace2007> so how do i see which package installed a file alled borg9?
[01:25] <Ace2007> so how do i see which package installed a file called borg9?
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry? somebody can tell me why i can't start matlab using the run dialog but i can only from a terminal? it seems like it require to have a terminal where to write his output.. could it be?
[01:25] <fritsch> dpkg -S filename
[01:25] <fritsch> Ace2007: dpkg -S filename
[01:26] <fritsch> Tallia1Kubuntu: do not think so, look if the icon starts the same as your console comamnd
[01:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah, it does
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> even in the kmenu, if i disable execute in terminal, it stops starting
[01:27] <fritsch> hehe don`t know
[01:27] <fritsch> Tallia1Kubuntu: then keep it enabled, perhaps aks the developer?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> Fjodor: i pointed you to a link on buntudot.org which no longer exists, yeah
[01:29] <Fjodor> Hobbsee: Yes, I saw you said that after I asked again. Sorry
[01:30] <Hobbsee> Fjodor: :)
[01:30] <Hobbsee> it's okay
[01:30] <gnomefreak> fritsch: i dont see anythng that slaps me in the face in that
[01:31] <acojlo> hi, can someone help me? I need one file : "/etc/default/acpi-support". This file suddenly became binary instead of just text script. Reinstallation of acpi-support does not go well and I can not get this file right. Please, you could just copy and paste in in private chat channel here, but please, first say here that you will
[01:31] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-system-default is run by ksmserver correct?
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> anyone knows if the http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ are ready to use?
[01:31] <fritsch> gnomefreak: dont know, sorry
[01:32] <gnomefreak> jeroenvrp: yes and no
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> gnomefreak: skip the yes, and tell me about the no? :-)
[01:33] <fritsch> acojlo: just dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archive/acpi-support... /adirectory
[01:33] <fritsch> acojlo: you can fetch it out there ...
[01:33] <gnomefreak> jeroenvrp: its ready for testing (seems to be an issue in dapper with it) thats what me and fritsch are talking about atm
[01:33] <jeroenvrp> gnomefreak: than I test it
[01:34] <fritsch> gnomefreak: anything i can test? why are the kwin-style etc. not able to get used anymore?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> fritsch: im wondering what package we can pull an strace on
[01:34] <acojlo> fritsch : many thanks!!!
[01:34] <fritsch> gnomefreak: have there been qt updates?
[01:35] <fritsch> acojlo: no prob
[01:35] <gnomefreak> i think so
[01:35] <zan> hi guys!... can someone please tell me what should i install to play mp3z with amarok?
[01:35] <fritsch> !restrictedformats
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <gnomefreak> zan: it tells you on that first link
[01:36] <fritsch> zan: you got this 5 times this day?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> i cant remember the name
[01:36] <DarkAdmiral> is there an updated package for kopete?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> define updated
[01:36] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: yes, the default kubuntu packages are already updated
[01:37] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: if you use 3.5.3 you are stuck at the moment
[01:37] <fritsch> gnomefreak: icq have changed their protocoal a bit again
[01:37] <fritsch> gnomefreak: the one liner fix ... Protocol Version ...
[01:38] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch: ok thx, do you also know a fixed package for kopete 0.12?
[01:38] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: I build one my self against 3.5.3 some time ago
[01:38] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: some minutes
[01:39] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: but no support
[01:39] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch: doesn't matter
[01:40] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: you have a ftp that i can upload
[01:40] <Healot> HE JUSt want to use it
[01:40] <DarkAdmiral> i have, i will upload it for you
[01:40] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch:  but pls first send it by email
[01:40] <acojlo> people, with sata drive, is it must to have sata support built in (not as module)?
[01:40] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch: darkadmiral@onlinehome.de
[01:41] <Healot> could you publish thee file?
[01:41] <fritsch> Healot: me?
[01:41] <Healot> sure
[01:41] <fritsch> what i did: get kopete-0.12.1.tar.bz2 from kopete.kde.org
[01:41] <fritsch> apply the patch from this morning
[01:42] <fritsch> apply the debian patches from the Riddell pacakge
[01:42] <fritsch> run dpkg-buildpackage
[01:42] <fritsch> patch is here: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=17185&action=view
[01:42] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch: would you send it to me?
[01:43] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: sorry nearly no upload bandwith
[01:43] <fritsch> Healot: apply this http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/kopete_3.5.3+kopete0.12.0-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[01:43] <fritsch> Healot: and the patch mentioned above
[01:44] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: wargh, have deleted the deb :-(
[01:44] <DarkAdmiral> lol
[01:45] <fritsch> ah no! have found it
[01:45] <Riddell> fritsch: what are you doing
[01:46] <fritsch> Riddell: build a debian package from 0.12.1 kopete with the patch from this morning
[01:46] <fritsch> Riddell: your debian patch applies cleanly
[01:46] <fritsch> Riddell: but your version is very out date
[01:46] <Riddell> it's already in edgy, use that
[01:47] <fritsch> Riddell: the 3.5.4 version is "too old to connect" to icq
[01:47] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch: the kopete from the repositories doesnt work either
[01:47] <fritsch> DarkAdmiral: I am online
[01:47] <fritsch> Riddell: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=17185&action=view <- this one made it work
[01:48] <Riddell> fritsch: I know.  the fix is in edgy, rebuilt the edgy package
[01:48] <fritsch> Riddell: okay thankyou very much
[01:48] <DarkAdmiral> fritsch: is it just in edgy?
[01:49] <fritsch> Riddell: what do we do with the kde 3.5.4 issues in dapper?
[01:49] <DarkAdmiral> Dapper STS (slow term support)
[01:50] <fritsch> Riddell: the version I see on the mirror is from 24. Juli
[01:50] <fritsch> Riddell: okay sorr! overlooked
[01:51] <zan> fritsch, don't kill me :)), but i still get an error after i enabled all the repositories: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available.
[01:51] <fritsch> zan: don`t kill you
[01:52] <fritsch> zan: it is in multiverse
[01:52] <fritsch> zan: you have not correctly enabled multiverse
[01:52] <zan> hmmm... so what should i do?
[01:52] <zan> re-enable?
[01:52] <fritsch> zan: enable multiverse, apt-get update ...
[01:52] <jeroenvrp> fritsch: what issues
[01:53] <fritsch> zan: /etc/apt/sources.list must have: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:53] <zan> cool... i'll look into it
[01:53] <fritsch> jeroenvrp: no kubuntu-default-settings are displayed anymore, you cannot even choose the style, etc.
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> mmm thats not a problem, I allready have my own style
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> or can I dont change that
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> anyhow; I try to install it now but it is stuck kdebase-data
[01:56] <gnomefreak> i think my brain just crashed it keeps thinking libc :(
[01:56] <fritsch> gnomefreak: mmmh reset? walkin around outside a bit?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> i just got back from that tooka little stroll around the yard
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Riddell: are you releasing 3.5.4 for dapper at all?
[01:58] <Ace2005> fritsch: I FIXED IT!!! YAY!!!
[01:58] <zan> fritsch, is it au.archive.... or just archive?
[01:58] <fritsch> zan: both is okay
[01:58] <gnomefreak> zan: just archive is fine
[01:58] <fritsch> gnomefreak: au is the localization from australia
[01:58] <gnomefreak> i know
[01:58] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes, wrong name in front
[01:59] <Ace2005> i decided to try installing xgl and i think the problem was that xorg was still being used since i forgot to change kdmrc back when i stopped using compiz
[01:59] <Riddell> gnomefreak: probably with a caveat
[01:59] <Ace2005> i mean xgl was still being used even though i stopped using compiz
[01:59] <zan> it's working, it's working... 10x again... :D
[02:00] <fritsch> zan: don`t listen to music too loud ... police :-)
[02:01] <zan> fritsch: ok :-s... i'll stick to that! :P
[02:01] <gnomefreak> Riddell: i know its a little late but anyway we can get a OSX theme for 3.5.4?
[02:01] <fritsch> Riddell: okay building kopete on both: 3.5.3 and 3.5.4
[02:02] <Riddell> gnomefreak: huh?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> Riddell: anyway to get a osx theme in kubuntu. maybe in a themes-extra package or something?
[02:03] <Riddell> install baghira
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ok
[02:03] <Healot> want music? install bhangra
[02:04] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:09] <zan> !flash
[02:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <kbrooks> Question. :-)
[02:12] <kbrooks> How do you all promote Kubuntu?
[02:13] <Healot> question, how do you?
[02:13] <kbrooks> I want to find (research) new ways of advertising open source software. I'll explain in #-offtopic why
[02:15] <thejusticecow> !openoffice.org
[02:15] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[02:16] <thejusticecow> !xchat
[02:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:16] <thejusticecow> !wine
[02:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:16] <Healot> !drunk
[02:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about drunk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:16] <gnomefreak> dont play with the bot please
[02:17] <thejusticecow> my open office has unmet dependencies
[02:17] <thejusticecow> and -f install
[02:17] <thejusticecow> will not fix it
[02:17] <thejusticecow> it has errors
[02:17] <gnomefreak> the edgy or dapper
[02:17] <thejusticecow> is this a common problem?
[02:17] <thejusticecow> im on edgy
[02:17] <gnomefreak> thejusticecow: its very common it will be fixed soon
[02:18] <vranikx> hello all, have anybody also problem with kopete 0.12.1 and icq account? i have error message: icq client is too old
[02:18] <gnomefreak> vranikx: being fixed last i heard
[02:18] <zan> !irc
[02:18] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[02:19] <thejusticecow> gnomefreak: but it is stopping me from installing other applications, i am unable to purge or remove it aswell, do you ahve any advice?
[02:19] <vranikx> i had this problem in earlier version and it was fixed but now (i have same version which fixed this problem) i have same problem
[02:19] <gnomefreak> thejusticecow: use dapper if you cant deal with the breakage
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Riddell: kxdocker is trashed (if its your package)
[02:20] <thejusticecow> gnomefreak:  will dist-upgrade give me dapper?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> thejusticecow: no best/safest way is to reinstall
[02:20] <gnomefreak> from dapper cd
[02:20] <thejusticecow> so basicly dl the iso and do it all over again?
[02:20] <thejusticecow> ok
[02:21] <thejusticecow> but dapper is still kubuntu yes?
[02:21] <abattoir> gnomefreak: you mean the kxdocker_conf.xml file being 0B in the package?
[02:21] <vranikx> thejuicecow: but back up yuor home folder
[02:21] <gnomefreak> i tihnk so give me a sec but i think that was error
[02:22] <vranikx> thejuicecow: and after reinstall restore it and you`ll have same settings like now
[02:22] <gnomefreak> it just tells me it may be corrupt so yes that would be it
[02:22] <thejusticecow> ok
[02:22] <thejusticecow> thanks alot guys
[02:22] <vranikx> np
[02:22] <abattoir> gnomefreak: yes, that's what i found (/usr/share/apps/kxdocker_conf.xml and ~/.kde/share/apps/kxdocker_conf.xml) are both 0B
[02:23] <abattoir> gnomefreak: if you use a custom kxdocker_conf.xml or copy one from the source, it works fine :)
[02:23] <abattoir> gnomefreak: just FYI
[02:25] <thejusticecow> ?
[02:27] <thejusticecow> !dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[02:27] <thejusticecow> !edgy
[02:27] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:28] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu + 2 should be "sexy sloth"
[02:29] <Alimah> with the sloth from "ice age"
[02:29] <Dasnipa`> no that would be copyright infringement
[02:29] <Ace2007> Hi all where is the Crystal SVG iconset stored? it came with kubuntu
[02:30] <fritsch> dpkg -l |grep crystal
[02:30] <fritsch> dpkg -l |grep -i crystal
[02:30] <abattoir> Ace2007: /usr/share/icons
[02:30] <fritsch> dpkg -L "the package"
[02:30] <Ace2007> hi abattoir, thanks
[02:30] <abattoir> Ace2007: hi :)
[02:30] <Polarbeer> Hi all! I need help getting the media player working. Anyone feel like helping a total Linux newbie?
[02:31] <abattoir> Polarbeer: which media player? Kaffeine?
[02:31] <Ace2007> Polarbeer: So whats the problem?
[02:31] <Polarbeer> I've tried Kaffeine, KMplayer and AmoraK
[02:31] <Polarbeer> none of them work
[02:31] <Alimah> what kind of file?
[02:31] <Ace2007> Polarbeer: So what are you trying to play?
[02:31] <Polarbeer> works with cd/dvd
[02:31] <Polarbeer> mp3 files and wmw video
[02:32] <damian_> you need the right codecs
[02:32] <damian_> you need win32codecs
[02:32] <Polarbeer> on some of my video files the video worked but the sound didnt
[02:32] <damian_> what player are you using
[02:32] <damian_> polarbeer
[02:32] <Polarbeer> ive used 3
[02:32] <damian_> can you list them
[02:33] <Polarbeer> but in one of them you can configure xine i think
[02:33] <Polarbeer> I've tried Kaffeine, KMplayer and AmoraK
[02:33] <damian_> have you downloaded and installed all the appropriate codecs?
[02:33] <damian_> wmv is a proprietary format
[02:34] <Ace2007> Polarbeer: Can you paste your soruces list here and give us a link: http://pastebin.com/
[02:34] <damian_> the players won't play them out of the box
[02:35] <stanks> hello
[02:35] <damian_> hello stanks
[02:36] <fritsch> gnomefreak: found another bug, if you mark a sth. and paste it in, the middle part is missing ...
[02:37] <damian_> I wonder what desktop environment gnomefreak uses
[02:37] <Polarbeer> sorry guys didnt mean to be rude
[02:37] <Polarbeer> my 'Konqueror' just crashed
[02:37] <Ace2007> Polarbeer: Welcome Back
[02:37] <gnomefreak> damian_: kde, xfce.gnome,E,flux
[02:38] <damian_> no gnome gnomefreak?
[02:38] <Polarbeer> maybe my computer doesn't want me switching to Linux...
[02:38] <damian_> nm
[02:38] <damian_> were you using winxp
[02:38] <Polarbeer> me?
[02:38] <Polarbeer> no
[02:38] <damian_> yes
[02:38] <damian_> what were you using
[02:38] <damian_> os x?
[02:38] <Polarbeer> Kubuntu
[02:39] <damian_> I meant before you switched
[02:39] <Polarbeer> aha
[02:39] <Polarbeer> xp
[02:39] <kbrooks> Polarbeer: its your patience
[02:39] <kbrooks> be patient :-)
[02:39] <Polarbeer> :D
[02:39] <damian_> yes
[02:39] <damian_> linux can be frustrating
[02:39] <damian_> but it's infinitely more powerful than windoze
[02:39] <kbrooks> linux is entirely new
[02:39] <Polarbeer> well i really want to learn, because it seems great if I can get it working
[02:39] <kbrooks> and powwerful
[02:40] <Polarbeer> yep
[02:40] <kbrooks> so powerful that...
[02:40] <Polarbeer> well
[02:40] <damian_> so did you install the codecs polarbeer
[02:40] <Polarbeer> i have amoraK, Kaffeine and KMplayer
[02:40] <Polarbeer> no
[02:40] <Polarbeer> i dnt think so
[02:40] <Ace2005> Ok does anyone know how i can change Ctrl+Alt+Backspace into Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12 because i keep pressing it
[02:40] <damian_> they won't play wmv files then
[02:40] <Polarbeer> i see
[02:40] <Polarbeer> so how do i obtain them?
[02:40] <damian_> wmv is proprietary
[02:40] <kbrooks> Polarbeer: get the codecs then
[02:40] <damian_> lemme link you
[02:40] <damian_> it's quite simple
[02:40] <Polarbeer> thanks damian
[02:41] <damian_> there's a nice guide
[02:41] <damian_> try this
[02:41] <damian_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <Polarbeer> thank you
[02:41] <Polarbeer> ill look it up
[02:42] <Polarbeer> i have one more question right away
[02:42] <damian_> yes?
[02:42] <Healot> Polarbeer: cheers f face
[02:42] <Polarbeer> ive tried KMplayer, which has a console mode
[02:42] <Polarbeer> is that familiar?
[02:43] <damian_> kmplayer is a gui that runs on top of mplayer with is a cli-based player
[02:43] <damian_> what about it
[02:43] <Healot> gmplayer is its GNOME sister
[02:43] <Healot> yeah I know that
[02:43] <Polarbeer> when i try playing a file, regardless of its format i get something like this:
[02:44] <Polarbeer> Channel changed event 0
[02:44] <Polarbeer> xine_config_cb none
[02:44] <Polarbeer> XINE_EVENT_UI_PLAYBACK_FINISHED
[02:44] <Polarbeer> event_finished
[02:44] <Polarbeer> xine_config_cb none
[02:44] <Polarbeer> event_listener 7
[02:44] <Polarbeer> request quit
[02:44] <Polarbeer> closing display
[02:44] <Polarbeer> done
[02:44] <Polarbeer> and nothing happens
[02:44] <Polarbeer> more than that
[02:45] <Healot> Polarbeer
[02:45] <Healot> !paste
[02:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:45] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:45] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:45] <Polarbeer> oh... sorry ubotu
[02:45] <Polarbeer> and Healot
[02:46] <Healot> use pastebin service for huge amount of text
[02:46] <Polarbeer> yes i will in the future. sorry
[02:46] <Polarbeer> but did the text provide any clue to the problem?
[02:46] <Healot> and get libxine-extracodecs though
[02:47] <Polarbeer> ok
[02:47] <Polarbeer> ill try it right away
[02:47] <Polarbeer> thanks for your help
[02:48] <damian_> has anyone here gotten plugger to work
[02:49] <gnomefreak> abattoir: do you have a basic config .xml file for kxdocker handy?
[02:49] <abattoir> gnomefreak: i have the one which i took from the source.
[02:49] <abattoir> gnomefreak: DCC?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> sure
[02:51] <abattoir> gnomefreak: it only has the Kmenu
[02:51] <abattoir> gnomefreak: and i also think the configurator is not part of the package...
[02:51] <gnomefreak> thats fine
[02:51] <abattoir> gnomefreak: you arent being offered?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> i tried getting it it wouldnt grab it
[02:58] <|lostbyte|> Hi, everyone..
[03:00] <gnomefreak> this isnt good :(
[03:00] <damian_> anyone here know anything about ssh
[03:00] <Healot> how many bytes did you lose?
[03:00] <|lostbyte|> Only One,
[03:00] <raphink> damian_: thankfully yes :)
[03:01] <raphink> what's your pb with ssh?
[03:01] <damian_> oh good
[03:01] <damian_> how do you copy a file from an ssh server to your hard drive in an ssh session??
[03:01] <raphink> scp
[03:01] <raphink> :)
[03:01] <damian_> what's the command
[03:01] <raphink> scp
[03:01] <|lostbyte|> damian_, I know ssh stands for Secure Shell.
[03:01] <damian_> not to the server but from the server
[03:01] <raphink> that's the command
[03:01] <fritsch> scp "filename" youruser@HOST:
[03:01] <raphink> or the contrary rather fritsch
[03:01] <raphink> in that case
[03:01] <raphink> scp user@host:/path/to/file /path/to/local/file
[03:01] <fritsch> scp user@host:filename local
[03:01] <damian_> but won't that copy a file from YOUR hd to the server?
[03:01] <raphink> or even between two servers, as a bridge
[03:01] <fritsch> yes raphink
[03:02] <fritsch> ssh rocks
[03:02] <damian_> I want to copy a file from the server to my hd
[03:02] <damian_> not the other way around
[03:02] <raphink> scp user1@host1:/path/to/file/1 user2@host2:/path/to/file/2
[03:02] <damian_> ok
[03:02] <damian_> thanks
[03:02] <raphink> damian_: well scp is the same syntax as cp, except you can specifiy the host and user
[03:02] <raphink> so just use it as you need
[03:02] <damian_> alrighty
[03:02] <raphink> if you need to copy a whole directory, you can use -r switch, too
[03:03] <raphink> you also don't need to specify the user if it's the same as the local one
[03:03] <zspada15> i just installed kubunutu and never had the opportunity to set a root password.  Things still are asking me for a root password and i dont know how to fix it
[03:03] <damian_> sudo passwd root
[03:03] <raphink> and you can specifiy the user you want by default for each host in ~/.ssh/config
[03:03] <raphink> damian_: that's bad
[03:03] <mrph0nk> Trying to install VMWare and during the config i get this question "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your runningkernel?" . What is it that i need to install and/or what should i answer to the question :D
[03:03] <raphink> and that's one unrequired word
[03:03] <damian_> raphink: what's about
[03:03] <damian_> what's bad**
[03:03] <zspada15> thanks damian_
[03:04] <raphink> damian_: you don't need a root account
[03:04] <damian_> I know
[03:04] <raphink> that's the first thing
[03:04] <damian_> but sometimes it's convenient
[03:04] <raphink> and the second thing is that if you want to activate the root account, you don't needd to type "root"
[03:04] <raphink> sudo passwd
[03:04] <raphink> will do exactly the same
[03:04] <raphink> :)
[03:04] <damian_> yeah I thought it was a little redundant
[03:05] <_Shade_> how does the /etc/inittab line for pendrive mounting should look like ?
[03:05] <_Shade_> with cache disabled
[03:06] <_Shade_> !usb
[03:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:08] <_Shade_> !pendrive
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about pendrive - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:14] <abattoir> _Shade_: inittab or fstab?
[03:15] <_Shade_> abattoir: inittab i suppose
[03:15] <abattoir> oh, ok
[03:16] <itssmeeagainn> hello there! i have 2 hard disks: one with windows and one with linux(kubuntu)... i whould like to know how to install the grub on the windows hard disk so i can boot the linux partition without disabling the windows drive :D
[03:17] <_Shade_> abattoir: i'm not sure since when i do my fstab entries, the device is not mounted automatically anyways
[03:18] <itssmeeagainn> join baiamare
[03:18] <itssmeeagainn> sorry
[03:19] <_Shade_> abattoir: have you got any idea about it then ?
[03:20] <abattoir> _Shade_: afaik, inittab is for boot time config stuff
[03:21] <abattoir> _Shade_: you dont get the KDE dialog when you plug-in your drive?
[03:21] <abattoir> asking if you want to mount it / do nothing?
[03:22] <_Shade_> abattoir:  yes i do, but it doesnt work properly and some dude told me that i should add fstab entry to mount it with cache disabled
[03:23] <fritsch> _Shade_: are you member of plugdev?
[03:23] <abattoir> _Shade_: hmm, i have no idea about that
[03:23] <fritsch> _Shade_: the user group ... this solved here many problems
[03:24] <fritsch> _Shade_: plugdev, messagebus
[03:24] <fritsch> _Shade_: rest should work fine
[03:24] <fritsch> _Shade_: sudo adduser "youruser" plugdev usw.
[03:28] <_Shade_> fritsch: you know... this is an mp3 player in general... but when i try to copy something there, the files are incomplete, and such stuff
[03:28] <fritsch> _Shade_: yes, you have to umount it after that?
[03:28] <fritsch> _Shade_: just clicking on the desktop icon
[03:29] <fritsch> _Shade_: pmount/hal should mount it for you (being member of plugdev, messagebus)
[03:29] <Polarbeer> when trying to open the file libxine-extracodecs/.../.deb i get an error message from Ark, saying that the utility is not in my PATH.
[03:29] <fritsch> :-)
[03:29] <Polarbeer> what can i do?
[03:29] <fritsch> Polarbeer: just do: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:29] <Polarbeer> ive tried reading the help file, but unfortunately i dnt understand
[03:29] <Polarbeer> ok
[03:30] <fritsch> Polarbeer: in a terminal. for the beginnen such a "deb" file is sth. like windows setup.exe
[03:30] <Chousuke> it's more like a .msi
[03:31] <fritsch> Chousuke: yes
[03:33] <Polarbeer> i just get an error message
[03:34] <Polarbeer> saying that 'E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:34] <Polarbeer> '
[03:37] <_Shade_> hmm i am already member of plugdev group
[03:37] <Polarbeer> now it says "E: couldn't find package libxine-extra....deb"
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Polarbeer: make sure multiverse repo is enabled
[03:38] <Polarbeer> i had the 'Adept manager' open and closed it
[03:38] <Polarbeer> whats that gnomefreak
[03:38] <Polarbeer> and how do i make sure that it is?
[03:38] <damian_> paste your /etc/apt/source.list file into the paste bin
[03:38] <damian_> and give us the url
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Polarbeer: read what damian_ said
[03:39] <Polarbeer> ok
[03:39] <gnomefreak> ty damian_ im working on something ;)
[03:40] <laure> hello
[03:40] <Polarbeer> ok
[03:40] <eeos> hi there.
[03:40] <Polarbeer> its posted
[03:40] <damian_> so give me the url
[03:41] <eeos> I cannot here Radio France using kaffeie or amarok
[03:41] <fritsch> gnomefreak: shall I downgrade to get the "kubuntu feeling" back or is there still sth. i can do?
[03:41] <Polarbeer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19393
[03:41] <gnomefreak> fritsch: go ahead and downgrade
[03:41] <damian_> ok, here's what you need to do
[03:42] <eeos> do you know how to use the codecs for asx, or where to find them?
[03:42] <damian_> open the file as root
[03:42] <damian_> or do sudo
[03:42] <damian_> whicever you prefer
[03:42] <damian_> and uncomment any repositories
[03:42] <damian_> then add "multiverse" to any repository that ends in universe
[03:42] <damian_> and do
[03:43] <damian_> apt-get update
[03:43] <damian_> and try again
[03:44] <Polarbeer> thank you for your patience damian, this is a very stupit question, i know; what's a repositorie?
[03:45] <Polarbeer> repository
[03:45] <SonicChao> !repository > Polarbeer
[03:45] <damian_> a repository is a server that holds all the packages you need
[03:45] <damian_> they are urls
[03:45] <SonicChao> !repository
[03:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:46] <Polarbeer> thanks sonicChao
[03:46] <damian_> e.g. deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[03:46] <wahjava> hi channel
[03:47] <wahjava> how do I enable kbfx ?
[03:47] <damian_> that's a line you would see in the sources.list file polarbeer
[03:47] <damian_> that's a repository
[03:47] <wahjava> I've installed it
[03:47] <wahjava> but I'm still getting kicker
[03:48] <Polarbeer> ok i think i understant
[03:48] <Polarbeer> d
[03:48] <Polarbeer> ive uncommented them now
[03:49] <fritsch> gnomefreak: mmmh i prefer waiting, just 4 the case i can test a package or so
[03:49] <gnomefreak> k
[03:50] <damian_> did you add multiverse to the ones that end in universe?
[03:50] <Polarbeer> doing it now
[03:51] <damian_> once you finish save the file and do sudo apt-get update
[03:51] <damian_> and try installing it again
[03:51] <Polarbeer> just multiverse, no comma (,)?
[03:52] <damian_> correct
[03:52] <Polarbeer> ok
[03:52] <damian_> just make sure there is a space
[03:52] <Polarbeer> yes
[03:52] <damian_> make sure the file you're editing isn't readonly
[03:52] <ricardo> hi....i have a dummy (if there is such thing)....
[03:52] <damian_> otherwise it won't save the changes you make
[03:53] <Polarbeer> no it's not
[03:53] <ricardo> when edgy upgrading from dapper....what will happen will sources.list???
[03:54] <damian_> the sources.list file will be modified to request dapper packages
[03:54] <damian_> ricardo
[03:55] <ricardo> edgy packages?
[03:55] <ricardo> damian_:
[03:55] <damian_> you've upgraded to dapper you say?
[03:55] <ricardo> damian_: what about the repositories we have added...
[03:56] <damian_> those I'm not sure
[03:56] <damian_> if you've added repositories yourself
[03:56] <ricardo> damian_: no...im under dapper....but edgy will be the next release....so im wondering what will happen with my old sources.list for dapper...
[03:57] <damian_> when you upgrade to edgy it will be modified so that it requests edgy packages instead of dapper ones
[03:57] <damian_> at least for the standard repositories
[03:57] <Polarbeer> ok. it performed a lot of different operations, but the problem remains; when i try sudo apt-get install libxine....deb the same thing happens again
[03:57] <damian_> and you did apt-get update?
[03:57] <Polarbeer> yes
[03:57] <damian_> ok, lemme manually find the file
[03:58] <damian_> what's it called again
[03:58] <Polarbeer> which file?
[03:58] <Polarbeer> the libxine file
[03:58] <Polarbeer> ?
[03:58] <Polarbeer> or the sources file?
[03:58] <damian_> yeah
[03:58] <damian_> the libxine
[03:58] <Polarbeer> hang on
[03:58] <Polarbeer> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb
[03:59] <damian_> polarbeer: what architecture do you have
[04:00] <damian_> amd64, i386, etc.
[04:00] <Polarbeer> i386 i think
[04:00] <damian_> ok
[04:00] <damian_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fx%2Fxine-extracodecs%2Flibxine-extracodecs_1.1.1%2Bubuntu1-2_i386.deb&md5sum=5512ee45d3d0c9dd30f2588512729aa8&arch=i386&type=main
[04:00] <Polarbeer> but im not sure
[04:00] <damian_> go to that link
[04:00] <BluesKaj> So, what does Edgy have over Dapper in terms of an actual day to day OS , like surfing , burning cds & dvds, email and a secure computing environment?
[04:00] <damian_> choose a mirror
[04:00] <damian_> when you download it
[04:00] <damian_> go to its directory
[04:01] <damian_> do sudo dpkg -i NAME_OF_FILE
[04:01] <Bastiq> anyone know why my computer want to save the phpmyadmin folder on my apache server?
[04:02] <Bastiq> when i click it
[04:04] <_al_> hello
[04:04] <_al_> any kubuntu dev here?
[04:04] <sorush20> hi guys how do I get my kmenu to reload?
[04:05] <ricardo> damian_: thx:
[04:05] <damian_> sorush restartx
[04:05] <eeos> hi there. Anyone with experience in using windows multimedia codes on kubuntu?
[04:05] <damian_> restart x i mean
[04:05] <damian_> logout
[04:05] <damian_> err
[04:05] <damian_> control alt backspace
[04:05] <damian_> that will restart x
[04:06] <damian_> then your k menu will be refreshed
[04:06] <_al_> I think sorush20 didn't mean that
[04:06] <damian_> what did she mean?
[04:06] <_al_> without restarting x or kde
[04:06] <_al_> I suppose
[04:07] <sorush20> not I don't want to restart x , I want kde to search all the new programs I have installed and add the shortcut links to the kde menu
[04:08] <damian_> sorush that's what kde does every time it restarts
[04:08] <damian_> I don't know to get it to do that w/o restarting
[04:08] <miguel> someone speak french or spanish here
[04:08] <damian_> but it's a crude solution
[04:08] <damian_> yo hablo un poco de espanol
[04:09] <miguel> I want to know if I can install AIGLX in my computer, I have a Nvidia gpu
[04:09] <Polarbeer> damian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19394
[04:09] <damian_> ok
[04:09] <damian_> hold on a sec polarbeer
[04:09] <Polarbeer> yep
[04:10] <damian_> go to this site
[04:10] <damian_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[04:10] <damian_> and uninstall all the depencies
[04:10] <damian_> there are 4
[04:10] <damian_> you might have some installed already
[04:10] <miguel> Someboby can help me
[04:10] <damian_> or try doing apt-get install DEPENCY_NAME
[04:10] <fritsch> gnomefreak: the kdebase_3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1.diff.gz is 0 kb, this is not okay, or?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> !AIGLX
[04:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about AIGLX - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:11] <gnomefreak> fritsch: not sure you would have to ask Riddell on that one
[04:12] <miguel> Can I install AIGLX with a Nvidia gpu?
[04:12] <fritsch> Riddell: the kdebase_3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1.diff.gz is 0 kb in size, do you have the unbroken one somewhere?
[04:12] <Polarbeer> i have some installed, libc6 for instance
[04:12] <damian_> good
[04:12] <damian_> then ignore those
[04:13] <damian_> and install the ones you don't have
[04:13] <miguel> BluesKaj
[04:14] <Polarbeer> can i install it with Adept?
[04:14] <damian_> install it by doing dpkg -i PACKAGE_NAME
[04:14] <damian_> sudo first
[04:14] <Polarbeer> ok
[04:14] <Riddell> fritsch: in a bit yes
[04:15] <fritsch> Riddell: okay, thx, will you upload it in place?
[04:15] <Riddell> yes
[04:16] <miguel> Can I do something to run 32bit apps in kubuntu 64?
[04:16] <miguel> like Skype
[04:17] <laure> rehello, I need help please, I have just installed Kubuntu Dapper and Kaffeine runs too fast my divx files! what's happen please>?
[04:17] <damian_> laure a quick and dirty solution is to install vlc and use that
[04:18] <damian_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:18] <laure> damian_: no thanks, I want kaffeine
[04:18] <damian_> why kaffeine
[04:18] <laure> damian_: because I prefer Qt apps
[04:19] <damian_> kmplayer then?
[04:20] <miguel> Where can i change some configuration of divx codec? I see divx, but with a very bad quality
[04:20] <laure> kmplayer doesn't play them anymore
[04:21] <damian_> divx files?
[04:21] <laure> I think it's a divx codec problem, but I don't know where to find the solution
[04:21] <Polarbeer> damian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19395
[04:21] <damian_> that doesn't sound right
[04:21] <damian_> why would mplayer not play divx files
[04:23] <damian_> polarbear you were supposed to download the file and do dpkg -i PATH_OF_PACKAGE_ON_YOUR_HARD_DRIVE
[04:23] <damian_> not the url
[04:23] <Polarbeer> ok
[04:23] <damian_> so for example
[04:23] <_al_> does someone know what's wrong with dapper wifi support
[04:23] <_al_> ?
[04:23] <damian_> dpkg -i /home/damian/libx
[04:24] <zan> how can i change the refresh rate?
[04:24] <archdrone> what is better, blackdown java or sun java? pls give me some referrence
[04:24] <trappist> _al_: dapper's wifi support is pretty decent.  if you're having a problem, maybe ask a specific question.
[04:24] <_al_> I use Orinoco wireless card, when I plug in this card there appear two interfaces wlan0 and wifi0
[04:24] <kristyon> dapper wifi? amtel usb is loaded but scan doesn't work
[04:24] <trappist> archdrone: pretty much any java app/applet will run with sun java.  not so yet with blackdown.
[04:24] <_al_> I can't get this card to work
[04:24] <_al_> although this card is very well supported
[04:24] <kristyon> you try iwconfig
[04:25] <_al_> in every distribution
[04:25] <archdrone> trappist: thanks very much
[04:25] <_al_> for example in breezy this worked well
[04:25] <kristyon> al what does iwconfig say?
[04:25] <_al_> I wonder why there appear two interfaces?
[04:25] <_al_> before only one interface appeared
[04:25] <damian_> if you have 2 network cards
[04:26] <_al_> for example in breezy and other distributions
[04:26] <fabiogomes> How can i change the locale Utf8 for pt-BR in text mode?
[04:26] <eeos> hi there , problems with streaming radio broadcast in kubutu 6.06, bth using amarok and kaffeine. No sound heard.
[04:26] <eeos> anyone with experience?
[04:26] <_al_> damian_: I have integrated wlan also
[04:26] <_al_> but I haven't get it work
[04:26] <fabiogomes> How can i change the locale Utf8 for pt-BR in text mode of Kubuntu?
[04:26] <_al_> that's why I'm using orinoco pcmcia card
[04:27] <_al_> and this orinoco card doesn't work
[04:27] <_al_> if I compile kernel on dapper on my own, I'll get card to work
[04:27] <kristyon> just installed kubuntu instead of opensuse 10.1, seems much better
[04:28] <kristyon> easier
[04:28] <kristyon> good that I could keep my reisers /home too
[04:28] <kristyon> does ubuntu support formatting of reiserfs?
[04:29] <fritsch> kristyon: yes of course
[04:29] <kristyon> I wanted it for / but had no option
[04:29] <kristyon> so used jfs instead,
[04:29] <fritsch> kristyon: oh in the installer, i don`t know
[04:29] <kristyon> like reiserfs for its robustedness when I have apower cut!
[04:29] <mart> kristyon: I'd be very surprised if you can't do it in the installer, my / is xfs.
[04:29] <_al_> what is different on dapper compared to breezy with wifi?
[04:29] <kristyon> you cannot
[04:30] <kristyon> whats jfs like at recovery>
[04:30] <mart> kristyon: I'm pretty sure you can if you use the text-based installer
[04:30] <kristyon> ah
[04:30] <mart> kristyon: not tried the graphical one.
[04:30] <trappist> I format reiserfs on install all the time.
[04:30] <kristyon> dont supposed I can change it now then?
[04:30] <_al_> I tried suse 10.1 before kubuntu and this same card worked fine
[04:30] <mart> kristyon: better than reiser in my experience :)
[04:30] <fritsch> kristyon: it seems to me the text installer is more feature rich, and a lot faster
[04:31] <trappist> kristyon: pretty much a journalized filesystem is a journalized filesystem, and anything you choose (except ext2) will be journalized
[04:31] <kristyon> wish I used it now
[04:31] <kristyon> like automatix a lot, suse is a pain to get codecs and dvdcss working
[04:31] <fabiogomes> Do you known how can i change the locale Utf8 for pt-BR in text mode of ubuntu?
[04:31] <mart> kristyon: tried easyubuntu?
[04:32] <mart> kristyon: it's supposed to be a lot more robust.
[04:32] <kristyon> wouldn't work easily!
[04:32] <fabiogomes> Who known how can i change the locale Utf8 for pt-BR in text mode of ubuntu?
[04:32] <kristyon> problem with source.list, might work now
[04:33] <Bastiq> how do i share files with samba?
[04:33] <kristyon> read a howto?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> how do you remove the kicker?
[04:33] <trappist> fabiogomes: edit /etc/environment
[04:33] <kristyon> where's my clock in KDE ?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> kristyon: bottom right hand side of screen
[04:34] <kristyon> der, its not, thats why i ask?
[04:34] <_al_> damian_: you asked about iwconfig output
[04:35] <damian_> yes?
[04:35] <mart> Bastiq: right click on a folder you want to share in konqueror, properties, share
[04:35] <Bastiq> dosen't work. all the fields are grey
[04:35] <_al_> damian_: http://pastebin.ca/110272
[04:35] <mart> Bastiq: what fields?
[04:35] <_al_> when I haven't orinoco card plugged in
[04:36] <Bastiq> well... everything. like i don't have the rights to change
[04:36] <taavi> hi
[04:36] <_al_> only wlan interface is my integrated wlan
[04:36] <mart> Bastiq: in the share tab?
[04:36] <Bastiq> yup
[04:36] <kristyon> clock - kde? enable how?
[04:36] <taavi> i accidently removed the system tray, how can i get it back?
[04:36] <_al_> damian_: http://pastebin.ca/110274
[04:36] <puttz> hello
[04:37] <_al_> and when orinoco plugged in
[04:37] <kristyon> done
[04:37] <puttz> some one from sweden here?
[04:37] <damian_> taavi, right click on the tasbar
[04:37] <damian_> add an applet
[04:37] <puttz> i need to talk
[04:37] <taavi> yes?
[04:37] <kristyon> dont worry, found clock
[04:37] <damian_> and find system tray in the menu
[04:37] <mart> Bastiq: oh, maybe you haven't installed the samba package?
[04:37] <damian_> make sure you click on the taskbar in an empty spot
[04:37] <puttz> plzz some one from sweden here ?
[04:38] <Bastiq> what's it called? only samba?
[04:38] <damian_> polarbear: any luck?
[04:38] <mart> Bastiq: that's the bunny
[04:38] <taavi> yes, but there isnt a system tray to add here...
[04:38] <damian_> there is no system tray applet??
[04:38] <taavi> i chose add to panel
[04:38] <taavi> chose'
[04:39] <Tokeiito> good evening
[04:39] <damian_> no
[04:39] <taavi> and there are various things but not system tray...
[04:39] <taavi> thats what puzzles me
[04:39] <damian_> don't add a panel
[04:39] <mart> taavi: is it in the Remove menu by any chance?
[04:39] <damian_> add aplet to panel
[04:39] <damian_> and then select system tray
[04:39] <taavi> how..?
[04:39] <taavi> there is no such option...
[04:39] <damian_> right click on an empty spot in the taskbar
[04:40] <taavi> yes..
[04:40] <damian_> a context menu will pop up
[04:40] <damian_> and there should be an applet that will let you add an applet to panel
[04:40] <taavi> nope
[04:40] <mart> taavi: also check if it's in the "Remove from Panel"->"Applet" menu?
[04:40] <taavi> only add to panel
[04:40] <Tokeiito> maybe someone can help me to install IE on linux? i've tried many programs-scripts for that but unsuccessfully. maybe sameone was lucky and have this *** IE in linux  mashine?
[04:41] <trappist> Tokeiito: I run it with crossover office (www.codeweavers.com)
[04:41] <damian_> taavi are you using dapper
[04:42] <damian_> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:42] <Tokeiito> trappist: i've tried this. i Got error: Damaged download location. Clear yours browser cache and try agane
[04:42] <trappist> Tokeiito: download ie6setup.exe and launch it manually
[04:43] <mart> taavi: can't help you if you don't reply, sorry.
[04:44] <taavi> ubuntu dapper
[04:44] <Tokeiito> trappist: CS Office downloads iesetup.exe and lunches it. But in the middle of installation of IE i'm getin this error
[04:44] <damian_> you have gnome
[04:44] <Tokeiito> but ok i'll try
[04:44] <damian_> not kde
[04:44] <damian_> go to the ubuntu channel
[04:44] <damian_> and ask the question
[04:44] <damian_> since I'm not familiar with gnome
[04:44] <taavi> ok
[04:44] <taavi> thanks
[04:46] <MilhousePunkRock> re everyone
[04:46] <puttz> plzz some one from sweden here ?
[04:46] <anne> hello. anyone using soundkonverter here ? i'm having trouble when calibrating ffmpg: it complains it doesn't recongnize the '-hq' argument although this arg. does exit. I think the command used to call ffmpeg from soundkonvertor is faulty but i can't find the configuratio file to change that. Anyone ?
[04:46] <MilhousePunkRock> !se
[04:46] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[04:47] <MilhousePunkRock> puttz Does that help you? ^^
[04:48] <xbehav1> when i installed kde from xubuntu, it took me trough a few options, but the terminal window was too small to read, how can i run the same script again?
[04:49] <trappist> anne: dpkg -L soundkonverter | grep ffmpeg
[04:49] <trappist> anne: open that file and search for 'hq'
[04:49] <anne> trappist: thx ok i try
[04:50] <anne> fine ! i didn't know dpkg -L :)
[04:50] <kristyon> epinephrine I want some!
[04:51] <epinephrine> mmk
[04:51] <trappist> anne: it can be a lifesaver.  now install and learn about apt-file :)
[04:51] <kristyon> mr hat
[04:51] <trappist> anne: like, apt-get install apt-file, apt-file update and apt-file search
[04:52] <anne> trappist: yes i know the rest :)
[04:52] <kristyon> what does apt-file do?
[04:52] <Polarbeer> damian_: Thanks a million times for your help! Now I can play my mp3's again!
[04:52] <xbehav1> any ideas with my problem?
[04:52] <damian_> good
[04:52] <damian_> Polarbear one more thing
[04:52] <Polarbeer> may I ask another thing?
[04:52] <Polarbeer> yeah
[04:52] <damian_> yeah ask first
[04:52] <trappist> kristyon: say you're missing a file and want to know what package provides it, or some file's doing something wrong... anyway, apt-file search filename will tell you what package provides the file
[04:52] <Polarbeer> ok
[04:53] <Polarbeer> i need a codec for wmv 9
[04:53] <kristyon> cool, apt rules1
[04:53] <Polarbeer> how do i find it?
[04:53] <Polarbeer> ive tried google
[04:53] <fritsch> trappist: dpkg -S "filename" does the same
[04:53] <Polarbeer> and the site you referred me to
[04:53] <damian_> you need win32codec
[04:53] <Polarbeer> but no luck
[04:53] <Polarbeer> ok
[04:53] <damian_> lemme find it
[04:53] <trappist> Polarbeer: install w32codecs, it comes with the wmv9 codec.  but I still haven't gotten it to work on amd64.
[04:53] <kristyon> google automatix or easy ubuntu for win32
[04:53] <kristyon> codec
[04:53] <kristyon> dead easy
[04:53] <Polarbeer> ok trappist,
[04:53] <Polarbeer> but i386 is ok?
[04:53] <kristyon> yes
[04:54] <trappist> Polarbeer: should be
[04:54] <Polarbeer> k
[04:54] <trappist> used to work for me, back in my 32bit days :)
[04:54] <kristyon> lol
[04:54] <damian_> I wish 64 bit support were better
[04:54] <damian_> sometimes it's not worth installing a 64 bit os
[04:55] <kristyon> i wish someone woould support my 64bit needs....that is, give me one
[04:55] <trappist> damian_: w32codecs will never be 64bit. nothing we can do about that.
[04:55] <_al_> damian_: what do you think which interface I should configure?
[04:55] <kristyon> really? damn
[04:55] <trappist> damian_: I just set up a 32bit chroot, and every last thing except wmv9 works great.
[04:55] <_al_> wifi0 or wlan0?
[04:55] <damian_> trappist: how do you do that
[04:55] <damian_> al: I'm a bit busy now
[04:55] <gekko`> I'm getting this error if I try to launch thunderbird: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19397 anybody knows how I could solve that?
[04:55] <trappist> damian_: there's a howto somewhere on I think debian-administration.org
[04:55] <_al_> damian_: ok, sorry
[04:57] <trappist> gekko`: means whatever is on line 131 of that script (probably thunderbird) is segfaulting, which isn't a very helpful piece of info by itself.
[04:59] <anne> ok, it doesn't solve my problem. soundkonverter uses some .xml file where there's no way to figure out how it parses it into a command line...anyone with that issue ?
[04:59] <dmhouse> Hi all. If I've just tried to install a package with Adept, got an error, and its status is now 'BROKEN (installed)', what's the best course of action?
[05:00] <fritsch> dmhouse: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:00] <gekko`> trappist: I doubt that there is a bug in that script, because it's from the ubuntu respository
[05:00] <fritsch> dmhouse: look that it does not bring everything ;-)
[05:00] <dmhouse> fritsch: what do you mean?
[05:00] <damian_> gekko
[05:00] <damian_> can you tell me the error
[05:00] <fritsch> dmhouse: open terminal; do sudo apt-get -f install
[05:00] <damian_> I think I've had it before
[05:00] <damian_> and fixed it
[05:00] <damian_> sort of
[05:01] <gekko`> damian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19397
[05:01] <dmhouse> fritsch: yeah, got that bit, what do you mean by 'look that it does not bring everything'.
[05:01] <fritsch> dmhouse: "-f" means force
[05:01] <dmhouse> Yes...
[05:01] <dmhouse> Okay, let me run that command
[05:01] <dmhouse> Do I not need to give it the package name?
[05:01] <damian_> gekko try this
[05:01] <fritsch> dmhouse: no
[05:02] <damian_> make a backup of your ~/.qt directory
[05:02] <trappist> gekko`: didn't say there was a bug in the script.  the script is launching something on line 131, and THAT is segfaulting.
[05:02] <Polarbeer> damian_: how do I use the .rpm file (win32codec....rpm) that i downloaded
[05:02] <damian_> and then delete the qt directory
[05:02] <Polarbeer> ?
[05:02] <damian_> and try running it
[05:02] <kristyon> anyone using Xgl on dapper yet?
[05:02] <fritsch> Polarbeer: get the deb file
[05:02] <trappist> Polarbeer: don't do that.
[05:02] <damian_> Polarbeer: ubuntu is not an rpm based distro
[05:02] <Polarbeer> ok
[05:02] <damian_> you need a .deb package
[05:02] <Polarbeer> aha
[05:02] <trappist> !mp3 > Polarbeer
[05:02] <trappist> Polarbeer: check out the RestrictedFormats wiki page.  it'll set you up.
[05:03] <fritsch> Polarbeer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:03] <trappist> yeah that.
[05:03] <fritsch> Polarbeer: w32codecs section
[05:03] <Polarbeer> ok
[05:03] <Polarbeer> thanks, all of you!
[05:03] <damian_> gekko did you try it yet
[05:03] <gekko`> damian_: i renamed that folder, but still same error
[05:04] <lens> what gcc would be most likely for a 2000 / 2001 program?
[05:04] <trappist> lens: probably like 2.95
[05:04] <damian_> segmentation faults are such a pain
[05:05] <dmhouse> That's why you should all use statically typed languages! :)
[05:05] <lens> trappist, I installed every gcc I could through adept, but I didn't see that particular number (2.95) is it on my system?
[05:05] <trappist> lens: nope, it's ancient and not available in the repositories
[05:05] <damian_> isn't firefox written in c
[05:05] <trappist> lens: but unless the code really sucks, you ought to be able to compile with 3.4 or 4.x
[05:05] <dmhouse> Well, C isn't very type-safe.
[05:06] <lens> shit... is 3.3 the oldest I can try withought ... o so, you would recommend 3.4 or 4.x?
[05:06] <trappist> dmhouse: I don't think type issues account for a very significant percentage of segfaults.
[05:06] <trappist> lens: yes
[05:06] <lens> ok and so if I make no specification it would be 4.x right?
[05:07] <trappist> lens: I build pretty much everything with 4.x.  I go back to 3.x only if that fails.
[05:07] <dmhouse> trappist: that's because C's type system isn't powerful enough to catch the issues that _do_ lead to segfaults.
[05:07] <trappist> lens: on dapper I think so, yeah
[05:07] <trappist> dmhouse: last segfault I tracked down was because of a missing file.  a missing .xpm, even.
[05:07] <lens> trappist, thanks, I'm going to keep trying till I install this dang thing... the program will probably suck... LOL. later.
[05:08] <BluesKaj> IC there's a FF security update in adept repos today
[05:08] <dmhouse> trappist: well, that's just bad coding.
[05:08] <damian_> what's the difference between synaptic and adept?
[05:09] <BluesKaj> what's better about edgy vs dapper ?
[05:09] <trappist> BluesKaj: it's a lot less stable
[05:09] <damian_> isn't edge supposed to come out in like 3 years
[05:10] <Kr4t05> damian_: October, this yeah. :)
[05:10] <trappist> damian_: adept is qt/kde.  synaptic is gnome/gtk.
[05:10] <BluesKaj> damian , synaptic seems to install dependencies without probs better than adept in my experience
[05:10] <trappist> BluesKaj: they're both just wrappers around apt, and it's apt's job to resolve dependencies.
[05:10] <Kr4t05> year*
[05:10] <damian_> so are adept and synaptic entirely different apps?
[05:10] <trappist> damian_: more like 3 months
[05:10] <damian_> not just different front ends for the same code?
[05:11] <trappist> damian_: they are different frontends for apt
[05:11] <BluesKaj> they use the same sources list
[05:11] <damian_> so why would one work better than the other
[05:11] <BluesKaj> who cares as long as they work :)
[05:11] <trappist> damian_: one might be better coded than another.  but as far as I've seen (I don't use either of them very much) they're about the same.
[05:11] <damian_> sure as hell better than zenworks
[05:12] <damian_> talk about a piece of crap
[05:12] <damian_> suse's new package manager blows
[05:12] <lens> trappist: this is pissin me off... I don't know if the GCC is the problem, it seems to ./configure just fine, but no matter what compiler I use it messes up when I type make.
[05:13] <edison> hi everyone
[05:13] <Tokeiito> hi
[05:13] <edison> i have a problem with my screen resolution, i use 1024*768 but now is set to 800*600 and i cant change it
[05:14] <trappist> lens: it helps to read the errors (especially the first error) when you compile.  it's very likely a missing header file that's probably provided by a package you need to install.  what are you building, anyway?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> yeah damian_, that's why I switched to Kubuntu ...yast is a real clunker
[05:14] <edison> i try using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but didnt work
[05:14] <damian_> that's why i also switched to kubuntu
[05:14] <fritsch> edison: try: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[05:15] <BluesKaj> and the Suse Yast sources aren't updated so the dependencies are eating their own tails ... a real mess
[05:15] <trappist> I thought yast was pretty slick, but I never became a suse guy because I like my os to be *free*.
[05:15] <xbehav1> how do i run thunder as root?
[05:15] <damian_> suse is free
[05:15] <lens> trappist... it's a bot, but it learns to form sentences and stuff... I had a windows version of a different liscence but same kinda program and I'm very exited to get this up and running... unfortuanetly it's time for me to jump in the shower... I'm always in this room though so maybe we could work on it later?
[05:15] <trappist> xbehav1: there's no reason to do that.
[05:15] <damian_> there are free and non-free versions
[05:16] <trappist> damian_: I don't mean free as in beer.
[05:16] <damian_> and yast was ok
[05:16] <damian_> neither do I
[05:16] <xbehav1> i need to change permisions for a file and im not getting it right using chmod
[05:16] <trappist> lens: I might still be around
[05:16] <damian_> I mean a free and non-free version as in open source
[05:16] <damian_> also yast was ok
[05:16] <trappist> xbehav1: what's the problem
[05:16] <damian_> I was referring to zenworks
[05:16] <edison> i alredy did that but is still 800*600
[05:16] <kbrooks> nondfree != open source
[05:16] <lens> cool, well, I've seen you in the cannel quite a bit so I'll find ya, thanks trappist.
[05:16] <damian_> in suse 10.1 the os got fitted witha  new package manager
[05:16] <damian_> called zenworks
[05:16] <damian_> its buggy as hell
[05:16] <kbrooks> nonfree*
[05:17] <fritsch> edison: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for 1024
[05:17] <xbehav1> ive mounted a drive as /media/storage but cant read or write to it?
[05:17] <xbehav1> !fat
[05:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:17] <damian_> free = gpl'd?
[05:17] <trappist> xbehav1: fat32 doesn't understand unix permissions
[05:17] <xbehav1> i rember what ive done wrong i have to mount via terminal not disk manager then?
[05:18] <trappist> xbehav1: no, it doesn't matter what you do.  fat32 still won't understand unix permissions.
[05:18] <xbehav1> but if i mount it right i can read write to it
[05:18] <ricardo> !fuse
[05:18] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:18] <trappist> xbehav1: that's true
[05:19] <edison> im there but what do i do now?
[05:19] <edison> how can i set it to 1024*768
[05:19] <edison> ?
[05:19] <fritsch> edison: look for 1024
[05:19] <fritsch> pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:20] <edison> is not there, only 640*480
[05:20] <BluesKaj> trappist, is there a page on "how to" install Xgl that actually works and won't screw up X ?
[05:21] <fritsch> pastebin okay, so i can edit it online
[05:21] <damian_> xgl is beta BluesKaj
[05:21] <damian_> it still has lots of bugs
[05:21] <damian_> it screwed up my system
[05:21] <damian_> wait for a stable release
[05:22] <edison> how do i cdo the pste bin? lol
[05:22] <trappist> BluesKaj: not one that's guaranteed to work that way.  2 people can follow the same howto and get very different results.
[05:22] <fritsch> !paste
[05:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, the page instructions I followed really did a number on my login X etc so I basically had reinstall Dapper
[05:23] <edison> done
[05:23] <fritsch> link?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> any idea when a stable release will be issued
[05:23] <edison> i paste bin the xconfig
[05:23] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:23] <fritsch> yes, in the paste bin ...
[05:23] <edison> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19398
[05:24] <damian_> no idea blueskaj
[05:24] <damian_> it's still a very early project
[05:24] <kbrooks> BluesKaj: xgl is alpha and early
[05:24] <kbrooks> dont do xgl
[05:24] <damian_> it's beta
[05:24] <fritsch> edison: whichdo you want to use?
[05:24] <damian_> not alpha
[05:24] <fritsch> edison: 1024?
[05:24] <edison> yes
[05:24] <kbrooks> damian_: alpha
[05:25] <damian_> not according to novell
[05:25] <kbrooks> damian_: "beta" is YOUR opinion
[05:25] <edison> 1024*768
[05:25] <kbrooks> damian_: righttttttttttttt.
[05:25] <kbrooks> damian_: like I believe you
[05:25] <damian_> that reminds me
[05:25] <fritsch> edison: okay edited
[05:25] <damian_> you know what the definition of a beta is?
[05:25] <kbrooks> damian_: yoy are going to have to give me a link.
[05:25] <kbrooks> you*
[05:25] <fritsch> edison: you see the difference under the 24
[05:25] <damian_> the final state of a microsoft program
[05:26] <kbrooks> damian_: i know what beta means
[05:26] <damian_> ^
[05:26] <kbrooks> damian_: that not what beta means
[05:26] <trappist> kbrooks: it was a joke.
[05:26] <damian_> its the best definiton I can come up with
[05:26] <edison> no
[05:26] <trappist> and a pretty good one.
[05:26] <kbrooks> damian_: YOU think that is what beta means.
[05:26] <damian_> sigh
[05:26] <fritsch> edison: then backup yours
[05:26] <damian_> kbrooks stop talking
[05:26] <edison> where did u edit it?
[05:26] <fritsch> edison: and use the modified one
[05:26] <kbrooks> fine
[05:26] <fritsch> edison: read from down to up
[05:27] <BluesKaj> gentlemen , I think I'll avoid XGL for now...it would be nice to get my windows network printer working tho ...I've tried several times but it sets up to print the test page and then just freezes
[05:27] <fritsch> edison: the first 24 you see
[05:27] <kbrooks> damian_: i interpret that as a order
[05:27] <fritsch> edison: under that
[05:27] <trappist> kbrooks: relax man
[05:27] <kristyon> Xgl does look nice and makes desktop runs smoooooooooooth
[05:27] <kbrooks> BluesKaj: who told u to get XGL
[05:27] <edison> ok
[05:27] <kbrooks> kristyon: that is soooooooooo not true.
[05:27] <edison> i saw it
[05:27] <BluesKaj> no one ...I heard it was cool eye candy, kbrooks :)
[05:28] <kristyon> did when I got it working on suse
[05:28] <fritsch> get, edit yours, that it fits
[05:28] <damian_> yeah it worked semi ok under suse
[05:28] <kristyon> but then on reboot it wouldn't work, so here I am
[05:28] <damian_> no clue how it will run under ubuntu
[05:28] <kristyon> some have it working
[05:28] <damian_> I did
[05:28] <kbrooks> kristyon: this channel is the wrong place to evangilize XGL
[05:28] <damian_> too buggy though
[05:28] <trappist> when xgl works it's hella slick.  when it doesn't it makes you cry.
[05:28] <fritsch> edison: and then restart X
[05:28] <kristyon> sorry
[05:29] <edison> but it says i dont have permission to save it
[05:29] <fritsch> edison: edit it as root (sudo)
[05:30] <BluesKaj> anyone here have a windows network with USB printer on the windows pc ?
[05:30] <edison> sorry man im frite with that! im not very good using ubuntu
[05:31] <edison> how can i do that?
[05:31] <kbrooks> "frite"?
[05:31] <edison> burn
[05:31] <edison> lol
[05:31] <kbrooks> edison: burn meaning?
[05:31] <edison> that i dont know how to
[05:32] <joel> hello?
[05:32] <kbrooks> edison: sudo <command>
[05:32] <kbrooks> for examle
[05:32] <kbrooks> joel: ask!
[05:32] <BluesKaj> wifey uses windows and is afraid of linux on her pc due to her work , but i have a dual boot system here that prints fine in windows but just won't setup rigfht in kubuntu ...pisses me off !
[05:32] <edison> yes i know about sudo
[05:33] <edison> but i dont know how to save in console the config for xserver
[05:33] <kbrooks> BluesKaj: did u even TRY configging it
[05:33] <kbrooks> edison: eh?
[05:33] <kbrooks> edison: nano?
[05:33] <BluesKaj> I've tried several times but it sets up to print the test page and then just freezes
[05:33] <kbrooks> edison: are you using the nano editor
[05:33] <edison> nano?
[05:33] <kristyon> is it a lexmark BlueKaj?
[05:33] <kbrooks> ?
[05:33] <edison> nope
[05:33] <kbrooks> edison: what editor?
[05:34] <BluesKaj> HP desktop
[05:34] <joel> trying to load ubuntu from cd I burnt... getting a lockup with message [0]  Kernal panic- not syncing: Attempted to kill init. performed a mem test, was ok. tried to load with boot options, no luck not sure I am doing it right...
 edit a config for my video
[05:34] <kristyon> should work well then, have you configed it
[05:34] <edison> now im suppose to save it
[05:34] <kbrooks> edison: i am asking what editor you are using to change your config
[05:34] <BluesKaj> yes kristyon
[05:34] <edison> bur i dont have permission to edit the file
[05:34] <kbrooks> edison: what editor? please tell us
[05:35] <edison> none
[05:35] <kbrooks> edison: how are you editing it?
[05:35] <kristyon> can u fileshare with your win machine?
[05:35] <edison> gedit i guess
[05:35] <kbrooks> kristyon: with samba
[05:35] <kbrooks> kristyon: or FTP
[05:35] <kristyon> is printer sharing enabled?
[05:36] <BluesKaj> samba = smb ?
[05:36] <kristyon> yes
[05:36] <kbrooks> edison: what command did u run to open gedit to that file?
[05:36] <edison> i open xorg.cof and try to edit it
[05:36] <kbrooks> edison: HOW?
[05:36] <BluesKaj> yeah i did all that stuff on the other pc, enabled sharing etc ... I can print from here in windows ok
[05:37] <kbrooks> edison: on the command line, or through the menu?
[05:37] <edison> menu
[05:37] <kristyon> edison try sudo kate /path to xconf/xconfigwhatever
[05:37] <kristyon> then you should be able to save changes
[05:37] <kbrooks> edison: alt+f2,  run the above command (replace the example path)
[05:38] <kristyon> HOW long does google earth take to install? didn't realise it was so big
[05:38] <edison> ok done
[05:38] <joel> do I need to wait untill you are down with this issue? :)
[05:39] <joel> ju ah ask again?
[05:40] <joel> kbrooks?
[05:41] <fritsch> Riddell: are you currently uploading new kde 3.5.4 packages? kdebase-data was just updated
[05:41] <Riddell> fritsch: just finished
[05:41] <kbrooks> joel: ?
[05:41] <fritsch> Riddell: should it fix my issue or was it just for completenes?#
[05:42] <joel> kbrooks were you saying I can just ask a question on here?
[05:42] <kbrooks> joel: ... yes
[05:42] <Riddell> fritsch: which is your issue?
[05:42] <joel> ju ah okie I got a lock up and an error while trying to install of a cd with iso image from website.
[05:43] <fritsch> Riddell: kubuntu custom settings not recognized
[05:43] <fritsch> Riddell: kubuntu-default-settings not working ...
[05:43] <joel> ju [0] Kernal panic- not syncing:attempted to kill init!
[05:43] <Riddell> fritsch: nope, that remains a complete mystery
[05:43] <fritsch> Riddell: okay :-) thx for the patch
[05:44] <joel> ju kbrooks: then computer locked. did a memory test, tried messing with boot options...
[05:44] <kbrooks> joel: dont rely on me
[05:45] <joel> is there another user friendly version of unix I should try to install, that anyone here would recommend?
[05:46] <kbrooks> joel: its linux not unix
[05:46] <kbrooks> joel: kubuntu is user friendly. did you check the CD?
[05:46] <kbrooks> joel: reboot into it, and use the appropriate option
[05:47] <kbrooks> joel: maybe the CD is flawed.
[05:47] <kbrooks> joel: maybe you have to redownload the ISO
[05:48] <kbrooks> joel: Check for yourself - you will know
[05:48] <TheGateKeeper> joel: have you done the CD self check?
[05:48] <joel> kbrooks: hmm redownloaded twice, but i didn't get that softward to check sums to work... tried booting in safe mode, and with the different options... dbsonf_debug=5 ect...
[05:48] <fritsch> Riddell: I can`t recompile it on dapper, it says: imake failed, before used dpkg-buildpackage -d because of (cdbs >=0.4.39 and debhelper >=5.0.31) which are not in dapper
[05:48] <kbrooks> joel:  DO THE CD self check
[05:49] <kbrooks> joel: It's the iso being corrupted. Did you use an high speed burn?
[05:49] <kbrooks> joel: Use a low speed burn
[05:49] <joel> TGK/kbrooks: okie will try that.  thanks
[05:49] <kbrooks> like 2X, 4X
[05:49] <kbrooks> not 16X
[05:50] <joel> brb :)
[05:51] <kristyon> had same problem, when I turned down to 2x it worked fine
[05:51] <MilhousePunkRock> kbrooks: Hey... Burning it slower won't help him if he gets corrupted downloads from a bad stick of RAM though
[05:52] <kristyon> bad RAM can cause that? now I know
[05:53] <kristyon> nothing an MD5 check won't tell you though?
[05:53] <trappist> I always md5 check the iso, then the cd after I've burned it
[05:54] <gnomefreak> Riddell: are you aware that kde 3.5.4 has some font rendering issues
[05:54] <kristyon> whats the app called that gives to a graphic view of filesystems?
[05:54] <trappist> gnomefreak: where are you finding these 3.5.4 packages?
[05:54] <grothesk> kristyon: filelight
[05:55] <Riddell> gnomefreak: dapper or edgy?
[05:55] <gnomefreak> trappist: riddell has a test build that im testing
[05:55] <gnomefreak> edgy
[05:55] <Riddell> that's not new to kde 3.5.4
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Riddell: firefox and thunderbird that i pinned down so far
[05:55] <trappist> ah
[05:55] <kristyon> cheers groth
[05:55] <gnomefreak> oh never noticed it before :(
[05:56] <fritsch> gnomefreak: ok, i am giving up now - too much time for dapper "backport" packages (3.5.3 working well), if i change my mind, i install edgy and further help there
[05:56] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: The fonts look a bit different to me as well in 3.5.4.  Especially in things like konqueror
[05:57] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: not that they look differnet they dont show up
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ill get like the first 3 letters of a line and thats it
[05:57] <fritsch> gnomefreak: this was the reason i changed from debian unstable
[05:57] <fritsch> gnomefreak: they said sth. with dpi issue
[05:58] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i only saw the problem with the radeon driver, nvidia was fine
[05:58] <gnomefreak> im on nv but works fine in the other 4 desktops i use
[05:58] <trappist> kristyon: xdiskusage too
[05:58] <gnomefreak> just kde that its not showing up
[05:59] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Ah I don't have that issue.  Though I don't use KDE as my main desktop so I only use it for a few minutes or so to test it and certain things
[05:59] <gnomefreak> i will post screenshots of it later tonight
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ok off to my meeting be back in a few hours ;)
[06:01] <BluesKaj> is there a way of choosing between gnome or kde at login , in other words can I install gnoem side by side with kde ?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> gnome
[06:01] <trappist> BluesKaj: yes, your dm (gdm or kdm) will let you choose
[06:01] <BluesKaj> dm ?
[06:02] <trappist> display manager
[06:03] <kristyon> wow, filelight is great thanks. also apt is so much quicker than yast too!
[06:04] <kristyon> cat bought me a great prezzie last night
[06:04] <kristyon> nieghbours chicken!
[06:06] <trappist> kristyon: i before e except after c or when sounding like 'ay' as in neighbo(u)r and weigh
[06:07] <edison> ok i back
[06:07] <suzie_fox> i can't get sound out of amarok, but i know ALSA is working correctly (as I can get sounds elseware). any ideas of what i can try to fix the problem?
[06:08] <pcfan> help
[06:08] <pcfan> oops
[06:08] <kristyon> trappist, just a typo, i know
[06:08] <trappist> I'll let it slide this time.
[06:09] <edison> fritsch hi! now i now how to change my config file fot the screen resolution but i cant find the new config u gave me
[06:09] <fritsch> edison: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <edison> yes i know but i could not change it because i dont have permission
[06:10] <edison> so i use sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <fritsch> edison: that`s okay
[06:11] <pcfan> Where can I find debian archive of updated kopete 0.12.1+svn for ubuntu? (there is an  important update of the icq protocol )
[06:11] <fritsch> edison: or sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <edison> but didnt change my screen resolution
[06:11] <fritsch> pcfan: wgucg jde versuib
[06:11] <edison> is still 800*600
[06:11] <pcfan> fritsch: what ?
[06:11] <fritsch> edison: you restarted kdm?
[06:11] <fritsch> pcfan: sorry, which kde version?
[06:11] <edison> i restart my computer
[06:11] <pcfan> the latest in dapper
[06:12] <fritsch> pcfan: they are?
[06:12] <edison> how do i restart kdm?
[06:12] <fritsch> pcfan: the official dapper have changed this morning, for kopete being able to work
[06:12] <pcfan> fritsch : Strange, I 'll check the updates again
[06:12] <trappist> edison: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:13] <fritsch> pcfan: the version is important
[06:13] <edison> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:13] <edison> sudo: /etc/init.d/kdm: command not found
[06:14] <fritsch> edison: you use gnome, perhaps?
[06:14] <trappist> edison: could it be that you don't have kdm installed?
[06:14] <trappist> edison: try gdm
[06:14] <fritsch> edison: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:14] <trappist> like so
[06:14] <trappist> or just leave
[06:14] <trappist> or, maybe it worked :)
[06:14] <fritsch> trappist: lol
[06:14] <fritsch> trappist: we are very, very "bad" people
[06:15] <trappist> guilty.
[06:15] <chr> hi..i tried to install w32codecs using the commands in ubuntu page..i retrieved the file with wget but when using dpkg i get the error...cannot access archive: No such file or directory...
[06:16] <fritsch> Chr: then wget did not fetch the file
[06:16] <fritsch> chr or you changed the directory
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Why not just apt-get install w32codecs ?
[06:16] <fritsch> Hawkwind: nowhere in the reps
[06:16] <stanks> hello
[06:16] <Hawkwind> fritsch: Yes it is, it's in PLF
[06:16] <stanks> i have cue/bin image
[06:16] <Hawkwind> !info w32codecs
[06:16] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[06:16] <fritsch> Hawkwind: PLF?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> !plf
[06:16] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[06:16] <stanks> how to convert to e.g. iso image?
[06:17] <trappist> stanks: convert to iso with bchunk
[06:17] <fritsch> Hawkwind: okay your job then
[06:17] <rolando> hi
[06:17] <Hawkwind> fritsch: All you have to do is visit that URL, add the source, and sudo apt-get install w32codecs and you're done :)
[06:17] <rolando> what is the command to open the kmenu editor because i cant open it
[06:18] <stanks> thx trappist
[06:18] <BluesKaj> trappist, what do i look for in the display manager , to find the gnome desktop ?....don't think I chose it during the install
[06:18] <trappist> rolando: kmenuedit
[06:18] <fritsch> Hawkwind: i have a working one, but thx
[06:18] <rolando> trappist: thanx
[06:18] <Hawkwind> fritsch: I was explaining since you seem to not know about PLF
[06:18] <trappist> BluesKaj: there should be a menu on your login screen.  or you may have to configure gdm to give you the option.
[06:19] <BluesKaj> ok trappist , I'll check
[06:19] <acojlo> hi, when I issue "free -m" I see "total mem: 691". Acctualy I have 756mb - 64 mb (shared video memory). Is this ok?
[06:19] <stanks> hmm...what about adding subtitle to *vcd movie?
[06:20] <stanks> how to do that?
[06:20] <lars_> I suddenly got gnome's right click context menu on my kde desktop :S Known problem?
[06:20] <fritsch> Hawkwind: yes that's right, i really did not know
[06:20] <acojlo> i have 768. Where are 768-64=704-691=13mb?
[06:21] <trappist> lars_: you probably accidentally ran nautilus.  look for the process and kill it.
[06:22] <carbone1462> bonsoir toutes et tous
[06:22] <trappist> acojlo: probably a difference in the number of bytes in a mb.  to some it's 1 million, to some it's 2^20 or 1024^2
[06:22] <lars_> trappist: hm, ye, I use Nautilus as filebroweser... I have done that for a long time...
[06:23] <trappist> !fr > carbone1462
[06:23] <BluesKaj> nope trappist, no gnome options in the login list ...guess I have to mount the cd and load it from there
[06:23] <eeos> I am trying to install i386 ubuntu inside a chroot in order to run w32codecs enable players. anyone can help me?
[06:23] <trappist> lars_: nautilus takes over your desktop
[06:23] <lars_> trappist: ah, I see, Thanx a lot!
[06:26] <trappist> lars_: why not use konqueror or kommander
[06:26] <trappist> wait kommander isn't what I was thinking of
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> lars_: I prefer krusader
[06:27] <trappist> krusader.  that's is.
[06:27] <trappist> *it.
[06:28] <BluesKaj> where would gnome desktop be on the dapper install cd ?
[06:28] <trappist> BluesKaj: it's the ubuntu-desktop package
[06:29] <lars_> h3sp4wn: ye, will apt try it, thanx :)
[06:30] <joel> hello again, burning a slow speed boot disk right now to test that... I had run the cdcheck from main menu before.
[06:30] <joel> it did the same thing as when trying to boot.  loading linux kernel, then freeze with krenal panic not syncing error
[06:31] <soulrider_> hey everyone
[06:31] <joel> can that be caused by a corrupt iso file?  I found some others had that error in the support files... but i didn't understand a solution if there was one.
[06:31] <soulrider_> guys, what app can i use similar to DVDShrink or CloneDVD?
[06:32] <grothesk> soulrider_: k9copy
[06:32] <soulrider_> thanks!
[06:32] <hans_> i have a problem with ktorrent - i changed my port from 6080 to 0 - now i cannot run ktorrent at all - reinstalling doesn'twork...
[06:32] <soulrider_> im trying k3b and it looks like its awesome
[06:33] <soulrider_> :-/
[06:33] <grothesk> hans_: Try editing ktorrentrc
[06:33] <hans_> ok
[06:33] <hans_> in konsole?
[06:33] <grothesk> In your favourite editor.
[06:33] <Hawkwind> Or in your favorite editor
[06:34] <hans_> ok kate i guess?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Any editor you want
[06:34] <hans_> ok gonna try now
[06:34] <Hawkwind> kate, kwrite, gedit, vi, jed, joe, vim, nedit, leafpad :P
[06:34] <grothesk> If kate is your favourite editor, take kate...
[06:34] <hans_> should i know where ktorrenttrc is located?
[06:35] <Hawkwind> hans_: Probably ~/.ktorrentrc
[06:35] <hans_> ktorrentrc
[06:35] <hans_> ok
[06:35] <Hawkwind> hans_: Might be in ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent
[06:36] <hans_> looking there
[06:36] <BluesKaj> nope, cant find gnome anywhere on the cd
[06:36] <anne> hi. i'm compiling transkode but i don't know which dependency matches "X includes" (./configure says it can't find X includes...)
[06:36] <trappist> BluesKaj: you just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <grothesk> anne: Why do you compile it yourself?
[06:37] <trappist> anne: try installing xserver-xorg-dev
[06:37] <anne> grotesk: because i can't find it in my repos
[06:37] <hans_> kde share is in etc?
[06:37] <grothesk> anne: Akitvate 'mutliverse'
[06:37] <grothesk> multiverse
[06:37] <anne> grothesk: ok i'll check that.
[06:37] <Hawkwind> !info transcode
[06:37] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 14123 kB, installed size 42172 kB
[06:37] <trappist> grothesk: it's not in multiverse
[06:37] <grothesk>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[06:37] <trappist> and transcode != transkode
[06:37] <Hawkwind> trappist: Sure it is :P
[06:38] <grothesk> O_o What's the difference?
[06:38] <trappist> one is for kde
[06:38] <BluesKaj> E: Broken packages
[06:38] <grothesk> ???
[06:38] <grothesk> transcode is DE independent.
[06:39] <grothesk> It's just a collection of skripts.
[06:39] <anne> grothesk: transKode is for transcoding mp3's into ogg, etc...
[06:39] <Hawkwind> All apps are DE/WM independent actually
[06:39] <Hawkwind> anne: mp32ogg then
[06:39] <Hawkwind> anne: Why not use that ?
[06:39] <anne> because i want a gui
[06:39] <grothesk> So what's transcode for?
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> Any of those apps will need an uncrippled version of ffpeg to work properly
[06:39] <trappist> transcode is also for ripping dvds, converting video and audio from one format to another, etc.
[06:39] <grothesk> transcode is for transcoding mp3's into ogg, etc...
[06:39] <hans_> cannot find kde shared
[06:41] <grothesk> I see: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37669
[06:41] <hans_> can i give a command in konsole like edit ktorrentrc?
[06:41] <fritsch> grothesk: do not mix transcode (movies transcode) and transkode (amarok plugin for mp3s etc.)
[06:41] <kristyon> anyone know a rep. for tovid ?
[06:41] <anne> well transKode is also a standalone app (which i'm trying to compile)
[06:42] <fritsch> anne: okay, what do you want to convert?
[06:42] <hans_> or search ktorrentrc...
[06:42] <hans_> ?
[06:42] <anne> fritsch: nothing, i just want an easy to use app for when i need it
[06:43] <fritsch> anne: the most easy thing is amarok, just rightclick and convert
[06:43] <hans_> i know u guys are the best
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> !info tagLib
[06:43] <ubotu> Package tagLib does not exist in dapper
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> !info taglib
[06:43] <ubotu> Package taglib does not exist in dapper
[06:43] <fritsch> anne: every tag etc. stays, really cool
[06:43] <xwolf-> is there color stripping in konversation?
[06:43] <anne> fritsch: don't i need some script ?
[06:43] <fritsch> anne: no, just install amarok, and here in install the transkode from kde-apps
[06:43] <trappist> h3sp4wn: try libtag1-dev
[06:44] <hans_> trying to find my ktorrentrc
[06:44] <fritsch> anne: just need some pacakges. lame (mp3), vorbis-tools (ogg), faad, faac (m4a) etc.
[06:44] <trappist> h3sp4wn: also try apt-cache search instead of the bot
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> trappist: cheers
[06:44] <Hawkwind> !info libtag1-dev
[06:44] <ubotu> libtag1-dev: TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library [development] . In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4-3 (dapper), package size 197 kB, installed size 1032 kB
[06:44] <fritsch> anne: but these are all in multiverse
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> !info libtag1-dev
[06:44] <anne> fritsch: yes but i've tried the transKode script and it used to stop in the middle of it :/
[06:44] <fritsch> anne: which amarok version do you use?
[06:44] <fritsch> anne: transcoded many, many files
[06:45] <anne> fritsch: 1.4.1
[06:45] <trappist> anne: apt-get build-dep kdebase transcode should get you most of what you need to build transkode
[06:45] <anne> mpc-->mp3 has this issue
[06:45] <fritsch> anne: perhaps flac was missing
[06:45] <fritsch> anne: here everything works
[06:45] <anne> fritsch: great.
[06:46] <anne> fritsch: no i didn't try flac, i tried mpc
[06:46] <kristyon> how do you install a *.deb with apt?
[06:46] <hans_> hawkwind in what directory should kde shared be?
[06:46] <fritsch> anne: mpc to mp3?
[06:46] <fritsch> anne: wait i search an mpc file
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> kristyon: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[06:47] <kristyon> thanks
[06:47] <anne> sh*t still the same issue although i've installed xserver-xorg-dev
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> anne: get kde-devel
[06:47] <Martijn81> hans_: kate /home/hans_/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc
[06:48] <hans_> ok
[06:48] <fritsch> anne: worked ...
[06:48] <anne> h3sp4wn: should i remove xserver-xorg-dev then ?
[06:48] <trappist> anne: if it makes you feel any better, I can't build it either.  qt errors.  bogus code, not missing headers.
[06:48] <anne> fritsch: Great ! i'm happy for you.
[06:48] <fritsch> anne: i think it works for you, too
[06:49] <hans_> heb nu d everborgen bestanden aanstaan
[06:49] <anne> fritsch: no it doesn't. the mp3 it creates is 56s long instead of 4 min
[06:49] <trappist> !nl
[06:49] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:50] <fritsch> anne: okay ...
[06:50] <Martijn81> hans_: just paste it in konsole, no need to get hidden files showing that way
[06:50] <BluesKaj> no Gnome to be found anywhere, not even the install cd ! WTF ?
[06:50] <trappist> BluesKaj: I told you twice.
[06:50] <hans_> i just changed it in kate martijn going to find out now
[06:51] <hans_> it works!
[06:51] <Martijn81> hans_: then the box with [downloads] , rule number 64-82 here
[06:51] <Martijn81> ow, great
[06:51] <hans_> thx to all here merci martijn
[06:51] <Martijn81> :)
[06:51] <BluesKaj> trappist, youcan tell me 10 times if you want but apt-get ubuntu desktop doesn't work
[06:52] <trappist> a) I didn't say apt-get ubuntu desktop and b) "doesn't work" doesn't qualify as a question
[06:52] <hans_> martijn do you know how to install the upnp plugin it doesn't work until now?
[06:53] <draik> Does Kopete save a history of your IMs?
[06:53] <rainer_> Hallo, ich habe Kubuntu das erste mal installiert und alles nach vorgabe bei der Installation eingerichtet. gibt es noch eine spezielle anmeldung fr root, so wie bei suse? wenn ich im terminalmodus den "su" eingebe, dann fehlt mir das pw, obwohl bei der installation nicht danach gefragt wurde. wie kann man das problem lsen?
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> anne: I don't suppose it matters either way unless you are particularly bothered about space
[06:54] <trappist> !de > rainer_
[06:54] <anne> h3sp4wn: i'm downloading kde-devel right now
[06:54] <grothesk> rainer: Englisch please.
[06:54] <grothesk> rainer: Or join #kubuntu-de
[06:55] <hans_> su isn't a kubuntu command i think
[06:55] <Philip5> rainer: yes, try that in english and we might help
[06:55] <Lynoure> hans_: su is linux command, not kubuntu specific in particular
[06:55] <hans_> the channel for netherlands = #kubuntu.nl?
[06:55] <hans_> kubuntu-nl?
[06:56] <trappist> !nl
[06:56] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:56] <hans_> ok
[06:56] <trappist> there may not be a kubuntu-specific channel
[06:56] <hans_> ok
[06:56] <Keegan_Witt> there isn't
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> I think the way su works at least on dapper server is broken
[06:56] <trappist> oh, #kubuntu-nl does exist
[06:56] <Keegan_Witt> ahh, so it does
[06:58] <BluesKaj> ok  trappist, I copied and pasted your comand (sudo) "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" into the terminal... broken pkges:  http://pastebin.ca/110405
[06:59] <trappist> BluesKaj: try sudo apt-get update first
[07:00] <hans_> there no one on the dutch channels i guess
[07:01] <hans_> going to try again at a later hour
[07:01] <hans_> thx and bye
[07:01] <Zimmerman> Hi! I upgraded from Kubuntu Breezy to Kubuntu Dapper Drake. When I boot my computer it starts X, but halts and goes back to tty1. When I press ctrl+alt+f7 it goes back to X-login (KDM) without any trouble. Why? How do I make it boot directly in to tty7?
[07:02] <trappist> Zimmerman: that's pretty weird.  I've never heard that one before.
[07:02] <Martijn81> seeya hans_
[07:03] <Zimmerman> trappist: Yes, it's weard. The logfile shows no signs of any errors. And KDE works perfectly.
[07:04] <trappist> yeah I wouldn't expect to find errors if X started successfully
[07:05] <h3sp4wn> Zimmerman: Have you changed the default runlevel or anything ?
[07:05] <trappist> Zimmerman: only thing I can think of is maybe your /etc/inittab is funky
[07:05] <Zimmerman> I haven't changed default runlevel, but maybe the upgrade did it. How can I check that?
[07:06] <acojlo> people, who could I learn about functions that offer various modules defined in xorg.conf?
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> /etc/inittab
[07:07] <Zimmerman> Okay. My default runlevel id:2:initdefault
[07:08] <Zimmerman> h3sp4wn: What should I look for in /etc/inittab?
[07:10] <h3sp4wn> Zimmerman: I Think that is the default - which drivers are you using ?
[07:11] <Zimmerman> h3sp4wn: I don't know. I must go now, but thank you very much! At least I have a clue now!
[07:14] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Are you here?
[07:14] <RogueX> Anyone help with getting DVD's to play?
[07:15] <RogueX> Anyone here?
[07:15] <raphink> what's the problem?
[07:16] <h3sp4wn> I just use libdvdcss2 (built it from marlliat)
[07:16] <raphink> there is a libdvdcss2 in Ubuntu
[07:16] <RogueX> tried to install but it says it cant
[07:16] <raphink> how so?
[07:17] <trappist> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[07:17] <RogueX> commit would break packages
[07:17] <RogueX> is what it says
[07:17] <trappist> RogueX: ^^
[07:17] <raphink> RogueX: can  you post a trace in a pastebin?
[07:17] <trappist> did I mention /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[07:17] <RogueX> running command now.. seems to worked
[07:19] <RogueX> trappist: that got it!
[07:20] <RogueX> trappist: why did that work and not adept?
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> raphrink: I just built all the multimedia stuff from marlliat (on edgy a few weeks ago) - Maybe some parts were no necessary but the fact that I have an uncrippled version of ffmpeg means for example libinstrudeo can be built
[07:20] <trappist> I have no idea :)
[07:21] <RogueX> trappist: well thanks!
[07:22] <trappist> hey I used to be able to add definitions to ubotu.  now I guess it's moderated.
[07:23] <Tm_T> yes
[07:24] <trappist> I guess it was getting abused.  is there like an acl system, or do you just have to be an op?
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> Probably why he doesn't know even 10% of what he used to (dpkg in #debian-bots knows nearly everything though)
[07:24] <RogueX> trappist: another question... when I make Kaffine full screen I get static.. any idea?
[07:25] <trappist> RogueX: I dunno, I use mplayer
[07:25] <RogueX> trappist: ok I will try that
[07:25] <mwe> I don't get icons on the desktop when kde automounts removeable media. what do I need to install?
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: What type of static on the picture or the sound ?
[07:25] <trappist> RogueX: echo "zoom=yes" >> ~/.mplayer/config for better fullscreen goodness
[07:26] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: picture
[07:26] <RogueX> How do I tell Mplayer to open DVD?
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: What video card ?
[07:26] <trappist> RogueX: mplayer /dev/dvd should work
[07:26] <mino> french guy here
[07:26] <macem> RogueX: mplayer dvd://
[07:26] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Nvidia
[07:27] <mino> im new to Kubuntu
[07:27] <trappist> mino: #ubuntu-fr for french language support
[07:27] <trappist> or hang out here if you speak english :)
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: With or without composite / xgl ?
[07:27] <trappist> RogueX: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_mplayer/config
[07:27] <mino> do you know french channel?
[07:27] <abattoir_> !fr
[07:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:27] <mino> thanks
[07:27] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Do not have nvidia drivers loaded... makes the laptop screen not run correctly
[07:29] <jerhum> bonjour
[07:29] <abattoir_> !fr
[07:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:29] <raphink> jerhum: /join #kubuntu-fr
[07:29] <abattoir_> :)
[07:29] <raphink> abattoir_: hehe
[07:29] <xwolf-> gotta be a joke.
[07:29] <raphink> not even xwolf-
[07:29] <RogueX> Mplayer does the same so its probably something to do with the drivers..
[07:29] <jerhum> je cherche un aplet pour le tableau de bord kde qui permettent de visualiser le debit montant et descendent pour le net
[07:30] <abattoir_> raphink: second time in 2 mins. :)
[07:30] <raphink> yep
[07:30] <raphink> lots of french peopel here
[07:30] <xwolf-> what are the odds of two french-speaking users come consecutively?
[07:31] <dwangoac> Translation: I seek a longline for the dashboard kde which makes it possible to visualize the flow going up and go down for the Net
[07:31] <Hawkwind> xwolf-: Odds seem pretty great, it just happened
[07:31] <dwangoac> D'oh - he left
[07:31] <xwolf-> exactly.
[07:31] <abattoir_> bah, he just left... before i could recommend sk :(
[07:32] <xwolf-> does konversation have color stripping?
[07:33] <dwangoac> abattoir_: I'm not french, but the fish told me to say il est ce qui est il
[07:33] <abattoir_> oui :)
[07:34] <abattoir_> just because my nick has french origins, doesnt mean i'm french :P
[07:35] <dwangoac> abattoir_: Heh.  I was mostly making fun of jerhum's predicament
[07:36] <dwangoac> abattoir_: of course, it was supposed to say "it is what it is", but...
[07:36] <abattoir_> dwangoac: aah, yes indeed
[07:36] <mwe> doesn't someone know how to get kde to add desktop icons for removeable media?
[07:36] <abattoir_> mwe: rt. click on desktop->Appearance->Icons
[07:37] <abattoir_> sorry, Configuree desktop
[07:37] <abattoir_> ugh....
[07:37] <abattoir_> i'm clumsy today
[07:37] <abattoir_> mwe: rt. click -> Config. desktop ->Behaviour ->Device Icons
[07:38] <mwe> abattoir_: ah. simple thanks. I thought I was missing a package
[07:38] <RogueX_> Guess I am going to have to try to load Nvidia drivers again...  lead to many reinstalls..  :(
[07:39] <kristyon> I thought the win32codec pakage could handle *.asf files, worked before on suse, but not now, any ideas?
[07:54] <dwangoac> kristyon: I'm not sure - it appears to be part of the codec pack, but given that it's a streaming format there could be other dependancies...  I installed it using Automatix and found that to be the easiest way to get everything I needed.
[07:55] <kristyon> I did too, but not working
[07:55] <dwangoac> kristyon: Keep in mind that .ASF files can contain DRM, so you might want to try an unencumbered file if you haven't already
[07:57] <dwangoac> kristyon: Past that, it may be beyond my abilities to help you.  I'm a multimedia guy, but I work for a MS lovin' company, so my head is still in the wrong hole, you could say.
[07:57] <kristyon> well it worked yesterday with suse, but i got fed up with slow yast and other suse aspects so I'm using kubuntu now
[07:57] <dwangoac> kristyon: Don't give up on Kubuntu over codecs just yet - I've found it to be a great desktop.
[07:58] <kristyon> I wont, apt totally kill yast for pkging
[07:58] <dwangoac> No kidding
[07:58] <kristyon> and I've used suse since 6.2!
[07:58] <dwangoac> Nice run then :)
[07:58] <dwangoac> I used Suse 6.2...  Quit.  :)
[07:58] <inc|freaky> hi all, im trying to get ssl working, but i get 500 OOPS: SSL: cannot load RSA certificate - i have rsa_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/vsftpd.pem in the vsftpd.conf and the file is readable ... can someone help me? im talking about vsftpd ;)
[07:59] <kristyon> well the install was fun....only did it for a challenge for someone else
[07:59] <dwangoac> kristyon: who won?  :)
[07:59] <kristyon> me
[07:59] <kristyon> took days
[07:59] <dwangoac> kristyon: ouch
[08:00] <kristyon> but that was my first linux install so I did well I guess
[08:00] <dwangoac> AFK
[08:00] <kristyon> ....back in the early days lol
[08:02] <kristyon> aha, seems that the ubuntu w32codec pack my not include everything that the suse packman one does
[08:06] <kristyon> but then I do have the libgstasf.so for gstreamer installed?
[08:07] <farous> do you have the libxine-extracodecs installed
[08:07] <farous> never experienced probs here though am not sure i did play .asf files
[08:12] <dhq> i just installed apache i need to know how to set it up
[08:12] <trappist> I never found anything mplayer wouldn't play on 32bit.  now I'm on 64bit with a 32bit chroot and mplayer'll play everything except wmv9
[08:13] <trappist> dhq: you'll probably need to ask a more specific question.  it ships already set up.
[08:13] <dhq> i just installed apache i need to know how to set it up
[08:14] <dhq> i want to set up the server
[08:14] <trappist> it is a server.
[08:14] <obf213> is .bashrc supposed to execute commands at boot, because it seems i have open it in kate then all the functions i assigned to it work
[08:14] <trappist> obf213: it gets run at login
[08:14] <kristyon> i have libxine-extracodecs. still no asf support
[08:15] <trappist> kristyon: if you haven't already installed w32codecs, do that and try mplayer
[08:16] <victor___> hello
[08:17] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[08:18] <victor___> anyone is from spain?
[08:18] <trappist> obf213: actually it looks like .bash_profile gets sourced on login, and mine just says [ -f .bashrc ]  && source .bashrc
[08:18] <Lars_G> victor___: why?
[08:18] <trappist> victor___: try #kubuntu-es for spanish language support
[08:18] <victor___> for write in spanish
[08:18] <Lars_G> Question, has any kind sould prepackaged the kdevelop 3.4 beta 1? or will I have to compile from source?
[08:18] <kristyon> der, my fault, bad link, asf does work!!
[08:18] <Lars_G> victor___: use #kubuntu-es
[08:18] <victor___> ok
[08:19] <Lars_G> victor___: Btw, Spainyards are not the only ones who speak spanish. ;)
[08:19] <victor___> well.. my english isn't very good, but I want practice ;)
[08:19] <trappist> victor___: it seems pretty good so far
[08:19] <Lars_G> that's good
[08:19] <Lars_G> kdevelop? please?
[08:20] <obf213> trappist i logged out and logged back in and i had to open bashrc in kate for the media buttons. when i ran the command in terminal some error thing pops up about X and bad device then kate pops
[08:20] <obf213> maybe i should move my commands to before any x stuff?
[08:21] <victor___> today I installed kubuntu in my latop and I have problems with bluetooth. I've an R52 IBM laptop with bluetooth integrated. when I try to opne Bluetooth servifes (are started) the system shows me a windows with "DCOP error"...
[08:21] <trappist> obf213: yeah they don't get sourced until after X starts.  kdm sources them when you login.
[08:22] <obf213> yeah i logged out logged back in trappist.
[08:22] <mino> fr
[08:22] <obf213> and i had to opne the bashrc in kate for somereason before it works its wierd
[08:22] <mino> !fr
[08:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:22] <trappist> Lars_G: 3.3.4 is the newest kdevelop package I've seen
[08:24] <Lars_G> trappist: Thanks. I guess I'll have to compile the beta myself. Thanks anyhow
[08:25] <Lars_G> !kdevelop
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdevelop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:29] <dhq> i want to set up the apache and ftpserver
[08:30] <the_hammer> anyone here know eggdrops?
[08:30] <trappist> the_hammer: /join #egghelp
[08:31] <obf213> trappist besides it not working on boot, which isnt to big a deal if i just run nano .bashrc, the media keys i have sometimes work for the program and sometiems for kmixer even though they are not assigned to kmixer
[08:31] <obf213> for example right now if i rasie the volume it raises amarok but if i lower it it lowers kmixer
[08:32] <metalhedd> I just did a fresh install of kubuntu and kmix says no mixer device is found. lspci shows my sb live (emu10k1) but dmesg doesn't show anything about sound at all.
[08:32] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:32] <bernardosoares3> hi. I've got a problem with transcoding mpc to mp3 with amaroK and the transkode script. the mp3 it creates have a bitrate of 32kbps (or so say the players). Is that a known problem ?
[08:33] <trappist> obf213: you could use kmix's dcop interface and put a script in ~/.kde/Autostart to bind the keys
[08:33] <obf213> i just added the keys to my map and then went to each individual player and assigned them
[08:33] <SonicChao> Where are the KDE sounds kept?
[08:33] <trappist> metalhedd: do you also have an onboard sound card?
[08:33] <metalhedd> trappist: yes.
[08:33] <obf213> would the namees they have might be the reason why kmixer is using some of them lik XF86AudioRaise
[08:34] <SonicChao> Nevermind....
[08:34] <SonicChao> /usr/share/sounds
[08:34] <metalhedd> trappist: actually i think its disabled. its not showing in lspci
[08:34] <trappist> metalhedd: I gave up on making them coexist peacefully and disabled the onboard card in the BIOS
[08:34] <trappist> oh, then it probably is disabled
[08:34] <trappist> metalhedd: what does `asoundconf list` say
[08:35] <metalhedd> names of available sound cards:
[08:35] <metalhedd> there are none
[08:35] <trappist> try 'sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1'
[08:35] <metalhedd> One step ahead of you there... it didn't do anything though
[08:36] <trappist> if you mean it didn't *say* anything, that's good.  check dmesg.
[08:36] <dhq> |lostbyte|: hey
[08:36] <metalhedd> nothing new in dmesg and asoundconf list still show sno devices
[08:36] <metalhedd> I found a couple relevant li nes in dmesg actually:
[08:37] <metalhedd> AC'97 0 access is not valid [0x0] , removing mixer.
[08:37] <dhq> ok with adept i just installed apache i need help to set it up can anyone help
[08:37] <metalhedd> EMU10K1_Audigy: probe of 0000:00:0a.0 failed with error -5
[08:37] <CVirus> guys ... Backports == Multiverse ?
[08:37] <trappist> dhq: you just need to ask a more specific question
[08:37] <trappist> CVirus: no
[08:37] <trappist> metalhedd: that kinda sounds like a hardware problem
[08:38] <dhq> trappist: i just want to setup the server
[08:38] <CVirus> trappist: okay thanks
[08:38] <metalhedd> trappist: it was working just fine this morning
[08:38] <metalhedd> ':S
[08:38] <hulo> hi
[08:38] <dhq> trappist: so i can place my files for download etc
[08:38] <trappist> dhq: apache is a server.  and it ships already set up.  need to be more specific.
[08:38] <trappist> dhq: so you want it to be available on the internet
[08:38] <dhq> yes
[08:38] <zipper_> I've got ubuntu 6.06 installed. Is it possible for me to completely change my current linux installation to the current release of kubuntu? Tried removing ubuntu-desktop and installing kubuntu-desktop, but that still leaves a lot of ubuntu stuff behind
[08:39] <trappist> dhq: did you install apache or apache2
[08:39] <dhq> apache
[08:39] <trappist> zipper_: removing ubuntu-desktop won't do much of anything
[08:39] <dhq> trappist: apache
[08:39] <trappist> zipper_: but the packages that are still there won't do any harm besides consuming disk space
[08:40] <zipper_> yeah i know, but i want to get rid of them for the same reason
[08:40] <zipper_> but perhaps its just easier to install kubuntu instead
[08:40] <zipper_> i hoped there was an easy way
[08:40] <trappist> dhq: edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf and add a line that says Listen *:80
[08:40] <Lars_G> Has anyone here installed the kdevelop 3.4 beta from source?
[08:40] <trappist> zipper_: debfoster will help you identify packages you didn't specifically install by name.  that might help.
[08:41] <trappist> Lars_G: sudo apt-get build-dep kdevelop will probably help
[08:41] <trappist> Lars_G: that should install the necessary -dev packages
[08:41] <Lars_G> trappist: It's not that worries me, I'm a programmer and used to compile :)
[08:41] <acojlo> can wine benefit from my applications at ntfs partition?
[08:41] <zipper_> trappist: seems like a lot of work. Thanks, but i think i'll just install kubuntu from scratch, seems like the fastest way to go
[08:42] <Lars_G> it's just i'm not so used to compile the interwined kde packages and I worry if this beta will overwrite parts of my current kdevelop even if I put it in it's own prefix dir
[08:42] <trappist> acojlo: depends on the application.  if the app needs to write to the directory it's installed to, no.  if the app depends on a bunch of registry entries, no.  mostly it's easier to do a wine install of an app anyway.
[08:43] <trappist> Lars_G: if you give it an out of the way PREFIX it should be fine
[08:43] <Lars_G> nod, thanks trappist
[08:43] <Lars_G> Well worst of cases I can reinstall my kdevelop packages, I worry for nary
[08:43] <trappist> and there's always that :)
[08:43] <acojlo> but what if that partition became FAT32?
[08:44] <trappist> acojlo: then you could write to it.  but doing a wine install is still recommended if possible.
[08:45] <acojlo> ok, does linux have some 'mount a cd iso image to a virtual drive'?
[08:45] <kristyon> any ideas why my panel disappeared? using kubuntu dapper
[08:45] <kristyon> yes
[08:45] <kristyon> ksio
[08:45] <acojlo> which panel diss?
[08:45] <kristyon> kiso
[08:45] <kristyon> erm
[08:45] <Lars_G> acojlo: Yes, it can be done with loopback devices
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> acojlo: mount -o loop blah.iso /media/cdimage
[08:46] <Lars_G> acojlo: basically as root, or using sudo.... do what h3sp4wn just said
[08:46] <tucoz> hi, I am trying to get mplayer and flash-content running with sound at the same time. Do you know if this is possible?
[08:46] <Lars_G> acojlo: if it errors (and both the iso AND the mountdir exist) do a: "sudo modprobe loopback"
[08:46] <tucoz> mplayer is using alsa at the moment
[08:47] <Lars_G> tucoz: you'll need to wrap your browser plugins in an alsa wrapper since the flash 7 player uses OSS
[08:47] <dhq> trappist: i am using apache2
[08:47] <trappist> sigh.
[08:47] <Lars_G> tucoz: You'll need to edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change FIREFOX_DSP to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[08:48] <tucoz> Lacerta, ah. cool
[08:48] <Lars_G> tucoz: Also make sure you have installed the "alsa-oss" package
[08:48] <tucoz> Lars_G, thanks
[08:48] <Lars_G> and restart firefox
[08:48] <Lars_G> tucoz: Just be aware, this will unsync audio with video
[08:48] <Lars_G> :) sorry but there's no workaround until adobe releases flah 9 beta for linux in 2007
[08:48] <trappist> dhq: then edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf to say Listen *:80
[08:49] <tucoz> Lars_G, the video is already out of sync. So this is better than nothing :)
[08:49] <Lars_G> hahah true
[08:51] <tucoz> Lars_G, thanks alot. It works :)
[08:51] <Lars_G> great tucoz :D
[08:52] <Lars_G> tucoz: if you want to keep tags on the progress of flash 9 for linux you can check this blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[08:52] <tucoz> cool
[08:54] <CVirus> isnt there a dapper-security repos. for the restricted repos. ?
[08:55] <Lars_G> restricted repos, or you mean non-gpl stuff?
[08:55] <acojlo> why is open office so crappy with ms fonts?
[08:55] <CVirus> i mean the restricted repository
[08:55] <CVirus> i mean ..
[08:55] <bernardosoares3> hello. anyone could help me with this bug in transKode ? creating mp3 with a bitrate @32kbps ?
[08:55] <CVirus> there is a dapper-security for main repos.
[08:55] <CVirus> isnt there a dapper-security for restricted repos. too ?
[08:56] <Lars_G> CVirus: Ah I get your drift. No idea, sorry
[08:56] <CVirus> Lars_G: Thanks
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe (doesn't complain)
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> I know restricted definately exists for it
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> (i.e linux-restricted-modules is proviced there for kernel updates)
[08:59] <sdlnxgk> when I try to run frozen-bubble it stalls and can't kill that process unless I reboot... HELP !!!
[09:01] <trappist> sdlnxgk: glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:01] <Kwukki_>  /msg nickserv link Kwukki 48728880
[09:02] <tsdgeos> meeeeeeeeeeeeeec
[09:02] <trappist> Kwukki_: please enter your password
[09:02] <trappist> :)
[09:02] <Kwukki_> lol
[09:02] <dhq> how to change the directory of apache
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> Kwukki_, thanks. :P
[09:02] <trappist> dhq: edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[09:03] <trappist> dhq: change the DocumentRoot directive
[09:03] <dhq> trappist: dint get you
[09:04] <trappist> dhq: look for DocumentRoot in the file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default and change it to what you want.
[09:04] <acojlo> anyone running suspend2disk with sata drives?
[09:06] <archangel_> hey where can I go for a question in making a webpage through open office ( graphics wont show up on the web)
[09:07] <trappist> archangel_: maybe #openoffice
[09:07] <archangel_> open office is tons easier than M$ word
[09:08] <archangel_> Well,   ok.  I'll try again. there were like 4 or 5 people in there and no one would talk earlier
[09:09] <cpk2> archangel_: just stay in the channel after you ask your question, maybe someone will get around to it
[09:09] <archangel_> thanks
[09:10] <elDeuce> how do i format my secondary harddrive?
[09:10] <cpk2> elDeuce: ??
[09:11] <elDeuce> archangel_: your graphics won't show up on the web because i guarantee the paths are relative to your computer instead of your website
[09:11] <elDeuce> cpk2: ???
[09:11] <soulrider_> hey everyone,w hats up!
[09:12] <elDeuce> archangel_: check the html code and look for <img src="/home/username/website/blah/image.jpg">
[09:12] <trappist> elDeuce: secondary master or secondary slave
[09:12] <cpk2> elDeuce: i would imagine you would want to keep it ext3 if you already are using ext3
[09:12] <archangel_> I did  elDeuce
[09:12] <elDeuce> archangel_: and make it say <img src="http://www.yourwesbite.com/image.jpg">
[09:12] <elDeuce> cpk2: it is reiserfs and i want it fat32
[09:12] <elDeuce> cpk2: it is my partitioned master
[09:13] <archangel_> elDeuce: somehow it doesnt change when I post it (still links the photo to my pc)
[09:13] <elDeuce> do you have a live online link i can look at?
[09:13] <sdlnxgk> trappist says Yes
[09:13] <archangel_> I shouldnt have to change the location of an image everytime I place on my page.
[09:14] <archangel_> at least I didnt with Word
[09:14] <elDeuce> archangel_: do you have a link i can look at?
[09:15] <Karti> Hi all
[09:15] <archangel_> http://members.cox.net/archangel00/
[09:15] <sdlnxgk> what is the best  way to kill a stuck process???
[09:15] <sdlnxgk> sdlnxgk   3017  0.0  3.0  33264 15608 ?        Dl   11:53   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/games/frozen-bubble
[09:16] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, kill 3017
[09:16] <archangel_> background and two rulers, niether will show up
[09:16] <elDeuce> archangel_: in the actual source code it has <IMG SRC="/usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/rulers/striped.gif" .............>
[09:16] <sdlnxgk> tried that doesn't kill the process
[09:16] <elDeuce> archangel_: that is relative to your computer, not the web
[09:16] <lmodl> hello
[09:16] <soulrider_> how can i knwo how much of my hard drive is being used ?
[09:16] <elDeuce> archangel_: M$ Word does the same thing
[09:16] <elDeuce> soulrider_: open Konsole and type --  df -h
[09:16] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: kill -9 procid
[09:17] <lmodl> imali tko iz hrvatske
[09:17] <archangel_> yeah, I know but does the link change?
[09:17] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 thanks trying that now
[09:17] <archangel_> elDeuce: what am I doing wrong?
[09:17] <lmodl> neo iz bih
[09:17] <archangel_> elDeuce: graphics always showed with Word
[09:18] <lmodl> neko iz tuzle
[09:18] <trappist> Word probably uses relative paths
[09:18] <elDeuce> archangel_: the graphics would show up in word but not on the web
[09:18] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 still doesn't kill it :(
[09:18] <elDeuce> archangel_: either way, it doesnt matter - you need to edit the html
[09:19] <elDeuce> archangel_: there isn't another answer unless you use an online site generator
[09:19] <archangel_> elDeuce: does that mean I have to link all the graphics when I am about to post the page?
[09:19] <elDeuce> archangel_:  not sure what you mean
[09:19] <archangel_> elDeuce: sorry I missed your earlier statement
[09:19] <Karti> If I installed Kubuntu using the text method and went for defaults would it install a swap drive if not....with 2 Gb ram would people still suggest I reinstall and add swap....Cheers
[09:20] <archangel_> elDeuce: nevermind you snswered me
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, killall perl -9
[09:20] <priscillia> hey everyone
[09:20] <elDeuce> archangel_: okay, sorry i can't be more helpful - unless you want to hire a webdeveloper :-)
[09:20] <archangel_> elDeuce: that sucks cause I wanted to make a fast page
[09:21] <Karti> what was the web question?
[09:21] <elDeuce> archangel_: give me a few minutes, let me look into something for you
[09:21] <archangel_> thanks man, I know this should be an easy fix
[09:21] <elDeuce> archangel_: did you upload your images to your website?
[09:21] <archangel_> yes
[09:21] <elDeuce> archangel_:  where are they located?
[09:22] <archangel_> (with the same names)
[09:22] <elDeuce> archangel_: send me exact url
[09:22] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: you do it as root?
[09:22] <archangel_> http://members.cox.net/archangel00/
[09:22] <zipper_> Hmm, i have a really hard time deciding between ubuntu and kubuntu. Are there a guide anywhere that explains the pros/cons of each?
[09:22] <elDeuce> archangel_: i found
[09:22] <|lostbyte|> archangel_, Its thats why safe to keep images in the same dir the html file is. ao you can link them backwards.
[09:22] <cpk2> zipper_: do you like gnome or kde better?
[09:23] <grothesk> zipper_: Take both...
[09:23] <zipper_> cpk2, well, thats my biggest problem, i cant decide which i like better
[09:23] <archangel_> ahh
[09:23] <Karti> zipper_: I find that I have a bit more control over KDE but I am new to it....
[09:23] <zipper_> grothesk, taking both seem like a, well, kindda bloated idea, i would prefer sticking to either kde or gnome
[09:23] <grothesk> No need to deceide between kde or gnome. (If there is enough space on your HDD)
[09:24] <dhq> when in console if i run vi how do i save the changer
[09:24] <cpk2> i heard that gnome and kde dont always play well with each other...
[09:24] <grothesk> I'm switching as I like.
[09:24] <grothesk> But generally I prefer kde.
[09:24] <|lostbyte|> dhq, shift + Z + Z
[09:24] <grothesk> cpk2: Bullshit.
[09:24] <zipper_> Guess i'll just have to try both and figure out for myself then
[09:24] <archangel_> soap in mouth
[09:25] <cpk2> grothesk: just saying i heard some people saying that
[09:25] <archangel_> you kiss yo mama with that  mouth?
[09:25] <Karti> archangel_: could you repeat the web question?
[09:25] <elDeuce> archangel_: check out this link - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19424
[09:26] <grothesk> cpk2: I'm using xfce, gnome and kde on the same box. No issues here.
[09:28] <soulrider_> uhm guys, what program can i use to edit video like virtualDub and to edit subtitles?
[09:29] <elDeuce> anyone know how i can format my harddrive from reiserfs to fat32?
[09:30] <soulrider_> eclipse is gone!
[09:30] <soulrider_> uhm i need some help...
[09:32] <soulrider_> guys, eclipse appears as not instyalled but all the files are in /usr/share
[09:32] <soulrider_> i tried deletign them but it wont let me
[09:32] <lnx2002> Hi
[09:32] <soulrider_> hi
[09:32] <lnx2002> i got a problem about installing kubuntu
[09:32] <draik> hi
[09:33] <lnx2002> Edgy Eft
[09:33] <acojlo> what is good cd-audio ripper for kde or neutral ?
[09:33] <soulrider_> isnt that old ?
[09:33] <draik> yes soulrider
[09:33] <lnx2002> it stops to continue while about partioning screen
[09:33] <lnx2002> and i got some errors in log files
[09:34] <lnx2002> biquity 1.1.4
[09:34] <lnx2002> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:34] <lnx2002>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 132, in ?
[09:34] <lnx2002>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[09:34] <lnx2002>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 45, in install
[09:34] <lnx2002>     mod = __import__('ubiquity.frontend', globals(), locals(), frontends)
[09:34] <draik> you are trying to install Kubuntu Edgy?
[09:34] <lnx2002>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 54, in ?
[09:34] <lnx2002>     from ubiquity.components import language, kbd_chooser, timezone, usersetup, \
[09:34] <lnx2002> ImportError: cannot import name partman
[09:34] <cpk2> !pastebin
[09:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:34] <soulrider_> get the latest kubuntu
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> acojlo, ripperx
[09:34] <draik> get dapper drake
[09:35] <lnx2002> i wantto live in edgy
[09:36] <draik> Is that like living on the edge?
[09:36] <archangel_> elDeuce: thanx bro
[09:36] <soulrider_> lol
[09:36] <lnx2002> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19426
[09:36] <elDeuce> archangel_: yup
[09:36] <soulrider_> !eclipseIDE
[09:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about eclipseIDE - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:36] <elDeuce> archangel_: if you build in openoffice that will be the only changes you will have to make in the code
[09:37] <lnx2002> so how can i overcome this problem (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19426)
[09:37] <elDeuce> archangel_: not TOO terribly difficult
[09:37] <soulrider_> Opera wont have internet access, dunno why :-/
[09:37] <soulrider_> brb
[09:38] <archangel_> elDeuce: yeah, your right. I guess I was a little spoiled.
[09:39] <elDeuce> archangel_: i still suggest if you are going to be building websites, learn some HTML
[09:39] <elDeuce> :-)
[09:39] <elDeuce> LUNCH BREAK!!!!  -- bbl
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> lnx2002, your link is being goofy
[09:40] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 yes i'm trying to  kill it as root
[09:40] <lnx2002> ?
[09:40] <archangel_> elDeuce: however I am impressed with the extra features in OO Writer than in Word. I was being made to buy Frontpage for these same features and I refused
[09:40] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: didnt work?
[09:40] <lnx2002> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19426
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> its trying to open as a text file
[09:40] <sdlnxgk> nope didn't work :(
[09:40] <elDeuce> archangel_: i recommend Kate for building websites ;-)
[09:41] <lnx2002> Admiral_Chicago: yes it is a text
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> lnx2002, oh man no idea
[09:41] <archangel_> I know enough, I just go for speed if I can
[09:41] <acojlo> how to shut down spell checking in kontact?
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> elDeuce, Kate does't have auto completeion :(
[09:41] <elDeuce> |lostbyte|: what do you need auto completion for?
[09:41] <lnx2002> Who can help me
[09:41] <lnx2002> please
[09:41] <archangel_> word was auto and I thought that Writer could be too
[09:41] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: what does it say?
[09:41] <Alatriste> hi
[09:41] <Alatriste> someboy know a easy programa in kubunt to programa IRC Bots?
[09:41] <sdlnxgk> after I try that kill  command doesn't say anything
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> elDeuce, Will save time for writing those long html tags.
[09:42] <elDeuce> |lostbyte|: I've been coding by hand in html, xhtml, and css for years and never needed an auto completion
[09:42] <trappist> like <i>
[09:42] <elDeuce> |lostbyte|: kids these days sure are getting lazy....
[09:42] <|lostbyte|> elDeuce, then i can see how much time you wated..
[09:42] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 just goes to next command line like it killed it but when I check to see if process is  still running it didn't kill it
[09:42] <|lostbyte|> elDeuce, lolz
[09:43] <archangel_> elDeuce: kate can do that?
[09:43] <acojlo> where is options menu that help for kmail reference to when you want to disable spell
[09:43] <elDeuce> lemme alone so i can eat!
[09:43] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: is a service that you canstop?
[09:43] <Alatriste> i wrote it bad, someboy know an easy program in kubunt to program IRC Bots?
[09:43] <elDeuce> archangel_: Kate is a text editor, like Notepad, except it highlights tags
[09:43] <lnx2002> What is the correct package name of partman ? ( apt-get install xxxxx ???? )
[09:43] <elDeuce> Alatriste: Kate
[09:43] <archangel_> hmm
[09:43] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 not sure what service I would need to stop..  sometimes it works great other times it just stalls and will not kill the process
[09:43] <|lostbyte|> archangel_, YEah.. it does it from c++ perl html bash and so many other..
[09:43] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: what proc is it?
[09:44] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, have you tired killall perl -9
[09:44] <Alatriste> elDeuce: , um, some tutorial do you know?
[09:44] <trappist> lnx2002: ubiquity
[09:44] <archangel_> WOW, I had no idea
[09:44] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 how do  I find that out??
[09:44] <lnx2002> trappist:  i have upgraded it but still got error
[09:45] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: well when you do ps aux it will probably show up and give you the name of it
[09:45] <cpk2> if you know the id wouldnt you also know the name?
[09:45] <archangel_> thanx folks I'll prob be back tonight, being that I need a life and all
[09:46] <|lostbyte|> cpk2, its frozenbubble
[09:46] <sdlnxgk> perl: no process killed
[09:46] <|lostbyte|> cpk2, he cant kill it.
[09:46] <sdlnxgk> actually it's frozen-bubble :)
[09:46] <soulrider> guys i need some help, i uninstalled eclipse adn installed it again but my system sais its not installed
[09:46] <soulrider> althought adept sais it is
[09:47] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, "system sais its not installed" how do you know that ?
[09:47] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 that is how i'm checking to see if it is killed  or not
[09:47] <archangel_> Oh, by the way, my webpages are way better than that. I was playing around so I could learn how to do it in Writer
[09:47] <acojlo> kaudiocreator - which encoder is for mp3?
[09:47] <archangel_> :0)      lol
[09:47] <soulrider> well, its not in the dke meny, katapult cant find it and if i go to konsolea dn yupe ecl and tress tab twice nothing shows up
[09:48] <cpk2> ahh its just frozen bubble is it even taking up that much? =P
[09:48] <acojlo> lame ... ok
[09:48] <sdlnxgk> I  tried using ksysguard too and still doesn't kill the process
[09:48] <epyfro> hi
[09:48] <trappist> acojlo: lame
[09:48] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 not that it's taking up that much.. I can't play it when it's stuck :(
[09:48] <cpk2> lol
[09:50] <Hso> hey guys.. i installed kubuntu dapper earlier, installed all the updates and installed firefox via adept.. however.. it seems that the context menu for KDE is broken.. there is no right-click menu.. both left and right click load up the app :( any way to fix this?
[09:50] <soulrider>  |lostbyte| any ideas ?
[09:50] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, try reinstalling it..
[09:50] <soulrider> i did :-/
[09:51] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, looks like the installation was incomplete.
[09:51] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: maybe restarting kdm will kill? dont want to restart your box then you will lose uptime =P
[09:51] <sdlnxgk> soulrider did you restart Xserver?? sometimes I have had to do that for settings to take effect
[09:51] <soulrider> no, i didnt
[09:51] <soulrider> how can i downlaod it through CL
[09:51] <soulrider> sudo apt-get right ?
[09:52] <cpk2> soulrider sudo apt-get install
[09:52] <soulrider> and then the name ?
[09:52] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 restarting kdm  is restarting xserver?? or are they different?
[09:54] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: same, sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop
[09:54] <cpk2> soulrider yes
[09:54] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: you could also try killing it once you stop kdm
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, Is the window opne, when its stuck ?
[09:55] <soulrider> im gonna restart X and see what happens
[09:56] <cpk2> sdlnxgk: do you run frozen bubble from a command line?
[09:56] <sdlnxgk> cpk2 no the window never opens just thinks and looks like it's going to then just  dies
[09:56] <sdlnxgk> no didn't run it from the command line but thinking maybe I should
[09:56] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, then do run ..
[09:58] <sdlnxgk> cpk2  tried to run from  command line and got this message Segmentation fault
[09:58] <soulrider> uhm, eclipse didnt install
[09:59] <soulrider> its weird, becaus ei ahd insatlle dit before
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, thats bad.
[09:59] <soulrider> even ran it
[09:59] <sdlnxgk> [SDL Init]  SDL_Init 65535
[09:59] <sdlnxgk> Segmentation fault
[09:59] <soulrider> and never uninstalled it
[09:59] <sdlnxgk> actually that  is the  whole message
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> sdlnxgk, sudp apt-get --reinstall install frozen-bubble
[09:59] <cpk2> he might need to reinstall sdl libs
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> sudo*
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> yeah, do that also..
[10:00] <kristyon> any idea why my taskbar/panel keeps crashing?
[10:00] <sdlnxgk> cpk2  will try that  first since that lib supports frozen-bubble :)
[10:00] <kristyon> and how do I get it back?
[10:00] <sdlnxgk> then will try to reinstall frozen-bubble
[10:00] <cpk2> well it appears to be a sdl problem...
[10:00] <elDeuce> anyone know how to format a secondary harddrive?
[10:00] <cpk2> but there are LOTS of sdl libs
[10:00] <sdlnxgk> let me restart kdm then go from  there :)
[10:00] <sdlnxgk> thanks lost and cpk2 brb
[10:01] <kristyon> how do I restart the panel/taskbar?
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> kristyon, huh ?
[10:01] <kristyon> ^ keeps crashing
[10:02] <kristyon> kpanel thingy
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> kristyon, the program for that is kicker,
[10:02] <kristyon> aha
[10:03] <kristyon> gotit, any idea why it crashes? using dapper
[10:04] <dr_willis> elDeuce,  fdisk it as needed  mkfs.whatever the partitions, them add them to fstab
[10:04] <dr_willis> is the old-skool way. :P
[10:04] <dr_willis> !harddisk
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about harddisk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:04] <dr_willis> !disks
[10:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:06] <wckdkl0wn> !ati
[10:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:06] <supernix> Hi does anyone know a way to refresh the menu so that it shows recently installed programs ?
[10:07] <wckdkl0wn> if i install the actual ati drivers will that solve my problem of my linux locking up when using opengl?
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> I would think so
[10:08] <sdlnxgk> cpk2  didn't work with restart kdm so i'm gonna  reboot the box and then reinstall  sdl libs
[10:08] <sdlnxgk> brb
[10:09] <elDeuce> dr_willis:
[10:09] <elDeuce> mkfs -V -t fat32 /dev/hda2
[10:09] <elDeuce> mkfs version 2.12r (May 16 2006)
[10:09] <elDeuce> mkfs.fat32 /dev/hda2
[10:09] <elDeuce> mkfs.fat32: No such file or directory
[10:10] <kristyon> is there a better tools than gnome-lokkit for firewall config?
[10:10] <kristyon> need to specify ports
[10:10] <dr_willis> try sudo 'commands'
[10:10] <dr_willis> try also 'sudo fdisk -l' to be sure the partitions are there.
[10:10] <cpk2> !firewall
[10:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[10:11] <acojlo> how to reenable menus in kaffeine (stop mini mode)?
[10:11] <kristyon> thanks, just finished with suse, kubuntu is far better
[10:13] <acojlo> i'm using guarddog as a firewall
[10:13] <svivian> Has anyone else lost their cursor when coming out of xscreensaver?
[10:13] <elDeuce> what can i use to play WMV files?
[10:13] <steveire> Amarok!!!
[10:14] <wckdkl0wn> how do i change my resolution manually? i just installed the ati drivers and i cant change it in display settings
[10:14] <wckdkl0wn> elDeuce: w32codecs
[10:14] <grothesk> elDeuce: When DRM is involved, you can't play them at all.
[10:15] <wckdkl0wn> elDeuce: i use mplayer actually
[10:17] <paines> hi
[10:17] <Karti> archangel_: Sorry about the delay. Have you thought of using Screem as a web design package. Its available as a straight download from the add remove program
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> hi
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> Karti, whats the other one .. ?
[10:19] <paines> kde keeps forgetting my setting for the workspace applet. i set it every time to 2 rows
[10:19] <aseigo> that's a bug that's pretty unique to kubuntu
[10:19] <aseigo> has to do with how they defined the global default settings for the panel
[10:19] <aseigo> and howt he panel really doesn't work very well that way.
[10:20] <Karti> |lostbyte|: The other is Quanta Plus
[10:20] <archangel_> elDeuce: you know I seen that but I havent looked at it yet (brand new linux user)
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> Karti, YEs yes, thats the one i been using..
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> long back..
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> there is also bluefish
[10:21] <paines> aseigo, i see.
[10:22] <Karti> One I tried before, as I am a dreamweaver man is NVU which seemed ok
[10:22] <kristyon> nvu is pretty good too
[10:22] <archangel_> Karti: you know I seen that but I havent looked at it yet (brand new linux user)
[10:23] <Karti> its really easy to use if you cut and paste your works from office and your site you will see the correct details in its colourings
[10:23] <archangel_> cool
[10:23] <archangel_> I'll try it
[10:24] <Karti> but if you are new (as I am ish....) the screem will install completely from the add programs
[10:24] <Karti> you may need to insert your cd/dvd
[10:24] <archangel_> actually I have it already
[10:24] <Karti> k, even better....
[10:25] <archangel_> I havent even gone through all the programs I have yet.   lol
[10:25] <archangel_> theres a ton
[10:25] <Karti> it takes a while........I'm still getting used to sudo and no root!
[10:26] <viper550> I found a pretty nice wallpaper: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43207
[10:26] <archangel_> yeah
[10:26] <archangel_> same here
[10:27] <CarlFK> is smbfs installed by default?
[10:27] <cpk2> you can still log in as root if you want
[10:27] <cpk2> CarlFK: i dont think so
[10:27] <Karti> I just need to force myself to use linux....otherwise I will never master it!
[10:27] <CarlFK> thanks
[10:27] <cpk2> !smbfs
[10:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about smbfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:27] <cpk2> !samba
[10:27] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:27] <cpk2> !info smbfs
[10:27] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[10:27] <archangel_> yeah, it can be frustrating at times
[10:28] <archangel_> you cant just 'figure it out' like windows
[10:28] <cpk2> sure you can =P
[10:28] <archangel_> there are so many ways you can do things
[10:28] <cpk2> install linux where it doesnt matter if you break it
[10:28] <Karti> when you sit infront of a pc all day its hard to motivate yourself to do it at night....lol
[10:29] <archangel_> lol yeah
[10:29] <trappist> yeah right
[10:29] <trappist> I can't pry myself away
[10:29] <Karti> trappist: lol
[10:29] <archangel_> lol, sounds like somebody needs a life
[10:29] <archangel_> lol
[10:30] <Karti> thank god for takeaways.....not that my wife would let me.....she being a windows only gal
[10:30] <archangel_> gotta go.   got to go to lowes and get a boat load of flowers
[10:30] <Karti>  bye
[10:30] <archangel_> later
[10:31] <acojlo> anyone heard for real good mobile phone - kontact synch software?
[10:32] <greypaw> damnit, my sound is fooked
[10:34] <soulrider> how can i delete the cache from adept ?
[10:35] <kana> soulrider: sudo aptitude clean
[10:35] <steveire> soulrider: there's actually something you can download from adept to clear your apt-cache of new cached .debs every time you update. I forget the name of the app
[10:35] <soulrider> this eclipse problem is pissing me off
[10:35] <soulrider> i **NEED** eclipse
[10:36] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, or sudo apt-get clean
[10:36] <soulrider> thanks
[10:36] <soulrider> i cleared my cache
[10:36] <soulrider> do you think ti will isnatll correctly now ?
[10:36] <kana> soulrider: just download it from the eclipse website
[10:37] <cpk2> soulrider: are you sure you arent installing something else that deletes eclipse?
[10:37] <soulrider> cpk2: im sure
[10:37] <soulrider> i insatleld it yesterday
[10:37] <soulrider> i even saw the shortcut and ran it
[10:37] <soulrider> and i just tried to use it
[10:37] <soulrider> and it was gone
[10:37] <soulrider> but adept said it was still insatlled
[10:38] <cpk2> yes but after that did you install anything else?
[10:38] <steveire> hmmm, why doesn't sudo aptitude clean work?
[10:38] <cpk2> try apt-get clean?
[10:38] <soulrider> steveire: worked for me
[10:38] <cpk2> try apt-get clean
[10:38] <soulrider> cpk2: i ont think i insatlled anything else
[10:39] <steveire> indeed it seems aptitude is not spelled aptitide...
[10:39] <cpk2> lol
[10:39] <Lord_Athur> how can I know the internet speed?
[10:39] <soulrider> kana: if i downlado it, how can i run it ?
[10:39] <soulrider> i downlaoded it yesterday but didnt know how to install/run it
[10:40] <soulrider> Lord_Athur: i use a program called knetload
[10:40] <soulrider> show sa nice graph with the internet usage
[10:40] <kana> soulrider: i downloaded it to a local bin dir under my home folder extracted and just ran it
[10:40] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[10:40] <Rondo> How would one set up a printer in kubuntu? I can't seem to find it in the desktop guide >_<
[10:41] <paines> Rondo, alt+f2 -> kprinter
[10:41] <kana> soulrider: as you extract it you will see the bin file eclipse you just click on it and there you go
[10:41] <AilleantSian> does anyone know why the make command isnt working?
[10:41] <Rondo> paines, thanks
[10:41] <soulrider> so, in linux i open bin files rihgt? kind of like exes in win ?
[10:42] <kana> AilleantSian: do you have build-essential-installed
[10:42] <AilleantSian> I will just check
[10:42] <kana> soulrider: yah
[10:42] <soulrider> ah, cool
[10:42] <soulrider> and i gotta put it in my home folder
[10:42] <soulrider> or in /bin/eclipse
[10:42] <Kubuntu> TUT RUSKIE EST??
[10:43] <kana> soulrider: i prefer a local bin folder /home/username/bin/eclipse
[10:43] <kana> for anything i donwload from the net
[10:44] <AilleantSian> thanks kana .. it seems it wasnt installed with the new version of ubuntu I just installed
[10:44] <soulrider> nad if i type eclipse int he console it will open it?
[10:44] <kana> :)
[10:44] <soulrider> how can i make typing eclipse in the console open iot ?
[10:45] <kana> soulrider: ./eclipse
[10:45] <soulrider> if i hide it it will open it? :-/
[10:45] <soulrider> hang on, let me dl it first :P
[10:47] <coffee_n_vodka> hi all !
[10:48] <coffee_n_vodka> i installed kubuntu a few days ago and its going great
[10:48] <soulrider> coffee_n_vodka:  me too, and i love it!
[10:49] <coffee_n_vodka> im trying to connect my laptop (running kubuntu) to my home computer (running mepis)
[10:49] <coffee_n_vodka> what am i supposed to do with ssh ?
[10:49] <coffee_n_vodka> can anyone help me setup ssh
[10:50] <sledge_at_work> coffee_n_vodka: /etc/init.d/sshd start and you're done :)
[10:50] <Karti> When you do a backup in Kubuntu could someone recommend what files to do or would it just be my home files?
[10:51] <coffee_n_vodka> sshd: command not found !
[10:51] <Kubuntu> loliga
[10:52] <sledge_at_work> coffee_n_vodka: the script you are looking for is /etc/init.d/ssh, sorry :)
[11:05] <Karti> weather
[11:05] <Karti> bot weather
[11:05] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ i got my KDM working
[11:11] <rolando> hi
[11:11] <rolando> how im i supposed to handle those packages that require accepting terms and conditions with adept?
[11:12] <rolando> like sun-java5-jre
[11:12] <steveire> rolando: strange behavoiur
[11:12] <steveire> ah.
[11:12] <steveire> !restricted
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <steveire> I think there's info in the first link
[11:13] <rolando> steveire: i added repositories that have java
[11:13] <kijjaz> if i'd like to lower audio latency, i should install a specific kernel instead of what i've got here from kubuntu.. am i right?
[11:13] <steveire> I'm afraid I didn't read the link either, so I can't help you more.
[11:14] <rolando> but when i chose to install with adept i  have to hit OK
[11:14] <steveire> Try searching ubuntuforums.org
[11:14] <rolando> but i cant
[11:14] <rolando> because its text format
[11:14] <rolando> when you click show details
[11:14] <steveire> !enter > rolando
[11:15] <rolando> ok sorry
[11:15] <rolando> ok, after aborting the installation of this package,which i think it will be impossible to install, i think somehow i blocked my adept thing
[11:16] <steveire> try sudo aptitude sun-java5-jre on the command line
[11:17] <rolando> steveire: i tried that, but as told before something is blocked now
[11:17] <steveire> is adept still open?
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> rolando: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:17] <steveire> Only one program can have access to the apt database at a ime
[11:19] <steveire> any look closing adept and trying on the cli?
[11:20] <rolando> steveire: no
[11:20] <ryanakca> how do you change the keyboard layout in tty1/2/3... you know... when you go C-Alt-F1/Ctrl-Alt-F2, etc
[11:20] <rolando> i would copy what i get but it is in spanish so it wouldnt make much sense
[11:21] <soulrider> roalndo
[11:21] <soulrider> que te sale ?
[11:21] <rolando> soulrider: me sale esto:
[11:22] <rolando> scribiendo informacin de estado extendido... Error!
[11:22] <rolando> E: No se pudo localizar un archivo para el paquete sun-java5-bin. Esto puede significar que necesita arreglar manualmente este paquete (debido a que falta una arquitectura)
[11:22] <rolando> E: No se pudo bloquear el directorio de listas...es el administrador?
[11:22] <ryanakca> rolando... maybe ask in the spanish channel... I understand spanish.. to the extreme of hello and goodbye
[11:22] <ryanakca> !pastebin
[11:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:22] <rr72> soulrider~ get it all figured out?
[11:22] <ryanakca> !es
[11:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:23] <rolando> ryanakca: i would install but i cant use adept
[11:23] <soulrider> rolando: PM
[11:23] <rolando> ok i will try in other channel
[11:23] <rolando> so you dont know how to fix this when the adept utility is broken??
[11:23] <soulrider> rolando, Kubuntu-es
[11:24] <rolando> soulrider: im there
[11:25] <svivian> Has anyone else lost their cursor when coming out of xscreensaver?
[11:27] <ryanakca> svivian: you on edgy or dapper?
[11:27] <ryanakca> how do you change the keyboard layout in the console? like vt1, vt2, tty1, tty2, etc?
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[11:29] <svivian> ryanakca: dapper
[11:29] <alert_> hi
[11:29] <alert_> can any one help me?
[11:30] <LeeJunFan> rr72: was it the drivers?
[11:30] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ yeah i re installed by hand
[11:30] <Hawkwind> alert_: Just ask
[11:30] <LeeJunFan> rr72: cool.
[11:31] <alert_> i was installed Kubuntu from DVD, and now i want to install some programms from there, but "Adept" don't see repository on DVD... what i must to do?
[11:31] <alert_> sorry for my english... i'm from russia :)
[11:32] <alert_> what want to install from DVD - kernel-headers.
[11:33] <alert_> and some other,,,
[11:33] <thejusticecow> !wmv
[11:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <alert_> any one?
[11:33] <alert_> please help...
[11:35] <thejusticecow> could someone point me towards a program that runs wmv's?
[11:35] <soulrider> alert_: its probably better if you downlaod everything
[11:35] <soulrider> !easysource
[11:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:35] <soulrider> you can get an updated list of repositories there
[11:36] <Hawkwind> thejusticecow: Just install the correct codecs.  Most of them can be found in PLF
[11:36] <soulrider> can someone help em insatll a printer?
[11:36] <alert_> what i must write in source.list for APT, to make Adept load updates from DVD?
[11:36] <soulrider> its on another computer running windows
[11:37] <thejusticecow> Hawkwind: what is plf?
[11:37] <Hawkwind> !plf > thejusticecow
[11:37] <alert_> Hawkwind: no, i need to install it from DVD, not from internet
[11:37] <thejusticecow> !kaffine
[11:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about kaffine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:37] <soulrider> !kaffeine
[11:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about kaffeine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:37] <soulrider> err
[11:40] <thejusticecow> !plf
[11:40] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:41] <rr72> whats a good easy to set up low resource using identd?
[11:41] <rr72> somin i can apt-get, edit a small conf file and im off
[11:42] <soulrider> im doen downlaoding Eclipse fromt he site, where sia  good place to isnatll it now ?
[11:42] <soulrider> damn, i cant type
[11:43] <soulrider> where is a good palce to install it
[11:48] <alert_> soulrider: yeah... what for i was download this DVD today? :(
[11:49] <soulrider> well, alert_ theres allways new things comming out, so the DVD is probably outdated
[11:49] <soulrider> even if it was releases recently
[11:50] <Karti> Hi all - just a quick one. Could someone tell me where to save themes for kubuntu and how I change to them?
[11:51] <torsten_> kj
[11:51] <the_hammer> hey all whats the command ya type in term to get your ip?
[11:51] <Karti> ifconfig
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> the_hammer, ipconfig
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i think
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Karti, if?
[11:52] <Karti> yeah....ipconfig is the windows version
[11:52] <the_hammer> yup
[11:52] <the_hammer> not for linux tho
[11:52] <the_hammer> :(
[11:52] <thejusticecow> can someone here tell me if they play wmv's and how they do it please
[11:52] <Karti> just tried ifconfig and its fine
[11:52] <w00t> hi
[11:52] <w00t> hello?
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Karti, doesnt ipconf work?
[11:53] <Karti> w00t: hello
[11:53] <soulrider> nope, its ifconfig
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> nope
[11:53] <Karti> not on my console
[11:53] <Hawkwind> ipconfig is Windows only.  ifconfig is linux
[11:53] <Karti> I just rememeber it from Solaris me thinks!
[11:54] <Karti> that and Hostname lol
[11:54] <SRTech> I have an old laptop I am trying to install kubuntu on. Is it possible to use the old text based installer, as the laptop can't handle the graphical interface from a slow cd drive?
[11:54] <Karti> I installed using text and it booted fine into graphics upon rebooting
[11:54] <w00t> uh
[11:54] <w00t> ifconfig must work?
[11:54] <the_hammer> can someone try sending me a file
[11:54] <the_hammer> txt file anything just to see if i can get
[11:54] <Karti> type ifconfig into your terminal window
[11:55] <the_hammer> it worked
[11:55] <the_hammer> ty guys
[11:55] <SRTech> how do you make it install in text mode? (I am new to linux, sorry)
[11:55] <the_hammer> just need someone to send me something to see if i can get
[11:55] <Karti> choose text or non graphical from the cd or install dvd
[11:55] <the_hammer> can i try to dcc chat someone?
[11:55] <soulrider> gusy, i umpacked eclipse to a folder in my home folder, but i wanna eb able to type ecluipse in konsole adn eb able to run it
[11:55] <Karti> the_hammer: not sure how to sorry
[11:55] <soulrider> i dont wanna ahve to go to the folder and open it
[11:56] <the_hammer> trying to see why i cant dcc chat to my bot
[11:56] <soulrider> the_hammer: ill sedn somehting
[11:56] <Karti> SRTech: You should have no problem
[11:56] <SRTech> Katri, can't seem to find that option, do I have to load KDE?
[11:56] <Karti> I assume you have the latest CD or DVD?
[11:57] <SRTech> just came in the mail from ship-it
[11:57] <Karti> let me load up another machine
[11:57] <soulrider> is it like a burned CD or does it ahve a ncie label ?
[11:57] <klerfayt> I'm tired of gam_server eating cpu - does ubuntu also use gam_server?
[11:57] <SRTech> soulrider: nice label, nice packaging
[11:57] <Karti> lol I can't I forgot my KVM goes flippy on me!
[11:57] <soulrider> :O
[11:58] <Karti> SRTech: what are the options you get?
[11:58] <soulrider> cool, if i really really like kubuntu ill ask for one :P
[11:58] <soulrider> but im pretty far away :P
[11:58] <kOpter> Yello :) Any kmame users here?
[11:59] <SRTech> on the boot screen, there are "Start or Instal K", "Start K in safe graphics mode", "Check CD for Defects", "Memory Test", and  "Boot from first hard disk" (replace K with Kubuntu)
[12:00] <SRTech> choosing one of the first two starts the livecd
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> SRTech, start K is safe graphics mode
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i think is what you want
[12:00] <Karti> T I had trouble with both but can't think where the text install was
[12:00] <Karti> it kept freezing on me
[12:01] <Karti> but text was fine
[12:01] <Karti> I used the same cd
[12:01] <SRTech> Same problem here
[12:01] <SRTech> If I hit ESC, I get a text prompt "boot:" but don't know what to type
[12:01] <Karti> is there a F1 for options
[12:01] <Karti> or video?
[12:02] <SRTech> F1 for help, read through it, and can't find anything
[12:02] <soulrider> guys, i need some quick help :P
[12:02] <Karti> I am sure you have other F keys that let you change your resolutions
[12:03] <soulrider> i downloaded eclipse fromt he main site, i unpacked to to my home folder, and i wanna run it by just typing eclips ein konsole, how can i do that?
[12:03] <Karti> is it not just ./eclips
[12:03] <SRTech> F4 says VGA, hitting it lets me change to "VGA", or "640x480x16" and a couple similar ones
[12:03] <soulrider> but i umpakced it
[12:03] <rr72> how do u restart inet.conf?
[12:03] <soulrider> i didnt install it
[12:04] <Karti> SRTech: let me log out and try an install on another machine be about 3 minutes
[12:04] <SRTech> ok, thanks!
[12:05] <soulrider> g2g, BBL
[12:07] <rr72> how do i restart inet.conf?
[12:08] <rr72> how do i restart my /etc/inet.conf? there is no xinet or inet in /etc/init.d