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jsgotangcohi02:26
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jjessedid the edubuntu docs get uploaded into our svn yet?? i though someone mentioned it at the last doc team mtg?02:44
jsgotangcoi am not aware..i haven't been in the loop lately03:01
LaserJockjjesse: well, we are supposed to get Edubuntu Handbook material sometime03:09
LaserJockjjesse: and I think they wanted to put an Edubuntu pamphlet that was done for Dapper on help.ubuntu.com as well03:10
jsgotangcohey LaserJock03:19
LaserJockhi jsgotangco 03:34
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nixternallet me guess. problems around here ;)05:00
LaserJockhm?05:00
nixternalwhats up LaserJock05:01
jsgotangcohey05:01
nixternalwhats up jsgotangco05:01
jsgotangconothing much05:01
jsgotangcojust looking for changes at the gnome wiki05:02
LaserJocknot a whole lot here05:02
LaserJockI'm going to try to work on some stuff05:02
nixternalseems it has been pretty quiet..thats good..i bet it gets noisey come friday afternoon when the vacation is over with ;)05:02
LaserJockjsgotangco: I got an email back from the debian refernce maintainer, did I tell you that?05:02
jsgotangcoyeah me too, its been a while since ive slacked ever since i discovered online fragging on the DS05:03
jsgotangcoLaserJock: hmm i think so05:03
jsgotangcoi can't seem to recall05:03
jsgotangcoare we forking?05:03
LaserJockI'll need to take a deep look into that, and it's not yet clear when I05:03
LaserJockhave time for that. But that's on my todo-list.05:03
LaserJock^^ is all he sent me05:03
LaserJocksoooo05:04
jsgotangcolol05:04
LaserJockI have no idea if that means a couple weeks, or a couple years05:04
jsgotangcoforking sounds good05:04
LaserJockjsgotangco: well, I still don't know what to do, I should test how easy it is to convert debiandoc to docbook05:09
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Laser_awayjsgotangco: you still around?07:21
jsgotangcoof course its only 1:20PM07:21
jsgotangco:)07:21
jsgotangcoLaser_away: what's up?07:24
Laser_awayjsgotangco: oh07:24
Laser_awayjsgotangco: well, I was looking at debiandoc2xml07:25
jsgotangcoi have judas priest on my track list i definitely won't sleep ;)07:25
jsgotangcookay07:25
Laser_awaybasically I just gave it the developers-reference.sgml07:25
Laser_awayand it spat out nice docbook chapters07:25
jsgotangcowow07:25
Laser_awaythat rendered pretty well in yelp07:25
jsgotangcono tag hacks done?07:26
Laser_awayit looked ok to me07:26
jsgotangcothat's nice but i wonder how much work still needs to be done to adapt to it07:27
Laser_awayI just had to change some non-unicode characters for some accented letters in somebodies name07:27
jsgotangcothe d-i manual basically grep'ed some words then changed it with some modifications as well07:27
jsgotangcoso i guess we'll have to do the same approach07:27
Laser_awayI wonder if we can just keep modifing the debian doc and if they move to docbook before edgy is released I think we can pretty easily merge07:28
Laser_awayand if not we are ok07:28
jsgotangcoyeah07:28
Laser_awayanyway, I gotta go07:28
Laser_awaybed time here07:28
jsgotangcoLaser_away: when do you want to start?07:28
Laser_awaysoon07:28
jsgotangcothis month is pretty free for me07:28
Laser_awayI'll talk to you tommorow about it07:29
jsgotangcookay07:29
Laser_awaygoodnight07:29
jsgotangcothanks07:29
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Burgundaviafinally, a story about gai! http://www.wiredwriter.net/index.html?page=Tutorials#add08:32
jsgotangcooohhh08:36
Madpilotcool, doesn't look like the author got too much wrong 08:37
Burgundavianope08:37
jsgotangcohmm not much really08:40
mdkemorning09:00
Burgundaviamorning mdke09:02
jsgotangcohi09:07
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neilc_hello09:33
jsgotangcohey09:39
Burgundavianight10:03
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mdkemvirkkil: another bug for you on moin->docbook10:26
mdkemvirkkil: when generating this page (http://docbook.wikiwikiweb.de/MatthewEast/Participate) the resulting docbook was missing a space after the <ulink> tags (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc-commits/2006-August/002708.html for the corrections)10:27
mdkemvirkkil: oh hang on, it seems to be ok in the docbook generated by the wiki, it's tidy that has caused the damage I think10:29
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bhuvanmdke: ping12:01
mdkebhuvan: yep12:01
bhuvando you have access to ubuntu-doc repo ?12:02
bhuvani meant direct access12:02
mdkeno12:02
mdkewhy?12:02
bhuvanok; i've a suggestion. i'm unsure how useful it'll be.12:03
bhuvanwill it be useful if we enable a bot to send commit messages to this channel as soon as it was committed12:03
mdkewould be nice, sure12:03
bhuvanvisit http://cia.navi.cx for details. by default the commit messages are forwarded to #commits channel and we can also redirect it to any channel we wish. to implement, all we need is to install (copy) a script to hooks dir in our repo12:05
mdkeI could arrange that12:06
bhuvanoh excellent, thank you!12:06
mdkebhuvan: can you send me the script?12:07
bhuvanbtw, i dont see this setup for any of ubuntu projects (motu, artwork, doc, etc). would be useful if we do that as well (or atleast inform the lead)12:07
bhuvansure.http://cia.navi.cx/clients/svn/ciabot_svn.py12:07
mdkeand I need to amend the script to specify the channel?12:08
bhuvannope; by default it'll send it to #commits channel. we need to contact someone (mailto:micah@navi.cx) to forward it to this channel. 12:09
mdkefine12:10
bhuvanmdke: we can edit the script and change the project name, repositoryURI, revisionURI (as we have viewVC)12:11
mdkeand it drops into the hooks directory?12:11
mvirkkilmdke: Ok.12:12
mdkehow are the commit messages forwarded? the bot joins this channel and uses a normal message12:12
mdkehow are the commit messages forwarded? the bot joins this channel and uses a normal messag/win 1312:12
mdkeargh12:12
bhuvanmdke: yes. in addition, edit post-commit.tmpl to run this script (ciabot_svn.py)12:14
mdkebhuvan: alright, the instructions in the script look sufficient, I'll send it off12:14
bhuvanmdke: ok. yes, the bot (CIA-XX will join this channel and post the commit messages automatically). you can join #commits channel to view the snippet though it looks bit ugly as it prints the commit messages of *many* open source projects12:15
mdkeyeah, nice suggestion, thanks12:16
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jjesseubuntu book comes out on the 4th :)03:10
mdkeat last!03:11
jjesseranked 10,943 or something like that03:11
jjesseall i know is prentince hall has some google mojo03:11
jjessedo a search for jonathan jesse :)03:11
jsgotangcobraggart!03:12
jsgotangco:)03:12
mdkesays something about a porn star03:12
jsgotangcowooooo03:12
jjessewell i didn't want anyone to know that about me....03:12
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jjessemdke: i had Laser_away upload my patch to the release notes, should i see changes on doc.ubuntu.com?03:19
jjessei'm trying to fix bug 4852503:20
UbugtuMalone bug 48525 in kubuntu-docs "Problems with Dapper Release Notes for Kubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4852503:20
mdkejjesse: doc.ubuntu.com deals with what is in trunk, if you made the changes in branch you won't see them03:20
jjessemdke: i would assume that Laser_away uploaded to trunk yesterday03:20
mdkejjesse: what was your patch on?03:21
jjesserelease notes03:21
mdkein trunk or branches/dapper?03:21
jjessein trunk03:21
mdkeI see03:21
mdkeyou should use branches/dapper if you want to make changes for dapper03:21
jjessetrunk/kubuntu/releasenotes/C/releasenotes.xml03:21
mdkebut yes, it should appear on doc.ubuntu.com since the changes were done to trunk03:22
jjessewell i would like some feedback on them which is why i uploaded to trunk instaed of brnaches03:22
mdketrunk and branches were the same?03:23
jjesseyes03:23
mdkealright then, I forgive you03:23
jjessethanks03:23
mdkelemme check if it is building right03:23
jjessei validated it and Laser_away did before he committed03:24
mdkeno, it isn't included in the build03:24
mdkeI'll fix that03:24
jjessei just don't have my svn password here at work03:24
mdkejjesse: ok, let me know if it is working now03:26
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mdkejjesse: ok, let me know if it is working now03:27
jjesse_will do thanks03:27
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mdkejjesse_: any luck?05:20
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locutus_Could anyone help me with a sound problem?05:55
mdkelocutus_: #ubuntu05:56
mdkethey can help05:56
locutus_mdke: Same server?05:56
mdkeyep05:56
locutus_TX.05:56
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jjesse_why do so many people post support requests either here or on the mailing list?06:54
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jjessemdke: still haven't seen doc.ubuntu.com update how long does it take?09:11
mdkejjesse: I did it manually while we were speaking earlier09:37
jjessestill show the old text under release notes for kubuntu09:40
jjesseit shouldn't have the "Whaoo a sweet installer" stuff09:40
mdkeI'll try a rebuild09:42
mdkenow?09:42
jjessehmm this is what is supposed to be in trunk/kubuntu/releasenotes?09:43
jjesseon what i've built on my workstation there is a section titled "Changes to the Kubuntu Installer"09:45
jjesseand on doc.ubuntu.com it shows "Installing Kubuntu"09:45
mdkejjesse: so when you do "make release-notes" in trunk/kubuntu on your local system, it is different to what you see there?09:47
jjessedouble checking09:47
LaserJockmdke: are you going to start doing doc.ubuntu.com builds via cron again?09:49
mdke(ensure you haven't got any changes to your local system that haven't yet been committed)09:49
mdkeLaserJock: they are still done by cron09:49
jjessemdke: correct i'm looking at ubuntu-doc/trunk/build/kubuntu/release-notes/C/documen.html09:49
jjesseand it is different then what is at doc.ubuntu.com09:49
LaserJockmdke: hmm, well it looked like the status reports weren't getting build09:49
mdkeLaserJock: possibly, check in the makefile if it is working09:49
jjessethe patch i had sent yesterday that LaserJock committed should match what is on my system09:49
LaserJockmdke: ah, k09:50
mdkehttp://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/document.html09:50
mdkejjesse: looks right to me09:50
mdke"Changes to the Kubuntu Installer"09:50
jjessedoes it have "Wahoo a sweet instalelr"09:51
jjesseah wait just changed09:51
jjessemaybe i had a cached version in my browser?09:51
jjessehmmm sorry bout tthat09:51
mdkepossibly09:51
mdkenp!09:51
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mdkei'm off for a bit, cya later09:51
jjessebye09:51
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LaserJockjjesse: need me to apply your ent patch?10:01
jjesseyes please :)10:01
jjessejust starting to work on edgy release notes and wanted to get some things chagned :)10:01
LaserJockdone10:04
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jjessethanks10:05
LaserJockmdke: hmm, I can't find anything in the makefiles for doing the status reports, did we remove that?10:08
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