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omeow | o/ | 12:17 |
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omeow | I see... | 12:17 |
omeow | Thanks Riddell. :) | 12:17 |
omeow | zsnes 1.42 is very old, from 2005 as far as I know. Now, the version that comes with edgy doesn't work, it crashes on startup. | 12:18 |
omeow | I've reported the issue here; https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/54199 | 12:18 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 54199 in zsnes "zsnes segfault on startup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 12:18 |
omeow | And since then, i've checked out their repository and build zsnes from source, which is very recent. Not quite sure why they don't release a new version, but the svn build works fine on edgy. | 12:19 |
bddebian | omeow: What's the latest upstream version? | 12:21 |
crimsun | shawarma: zsnes is most recently your merge. omeow has LP #54199. Any plans? | 12:21 |
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omeow | hang on | 12:21 |
omeow | *uses google instead of launchpad search* | 12:21 |
omeow | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/1.420-1ubuntu1 | 12:21 |
bddebian | Aye, and as I said there is a new merge for that -2 from Debian. I mean what is the new upstream, upstream version? | 12:22 |
crimsun | 1.42 is the latest. | 12:23 |
omeow | Yes, but for some reason they don't release versions often enough. | 12:23 |
crimsun | It only very recently entered debian etch, so the debian maintainer may have plans. | 12:23 |
crimsun | s/entered/migrated to/ | 12:24 |
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bddebian | omeow: zsnes -2 builds fine from Debian but I don't know if it fixes your segfault | 12:39 |
omeow | Must I make use of pbuilder to test if the build works? | 12:39 |
crimsun | no, but you have to install the deb to test. | 12:41 |
omeow | Ok, very well. Send me the deb and I'll test it. | 12:42 |
bddebian | I'll post it, give me a sec | 12:44 |
omeow | ok | 12:44 |
bddebian | http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/zsnes/ | 12:46 |
omeow | hehe, let me just finish this game of King of Dragon. :) | 12:47 |
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omeow | Ok, bddebian, just finished the game. :) | 01:23 |
omeow | I'll try the package now. | 01:23 |
Amaranth | in my .install file can i just put, say, "foo.service" and have that package claim ownership of foo.service where ever it might be located? | 01:24 |
omeow | bddebian, the program still crashes. | 01:27 |
crimsun | omeow: strace and/or gdb bt, please. | 01:34 |
omeow | What for? It's the same error as I attached to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/54199 | 01:35 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 54199 in zsnes "zsnes segfault on startup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 01:35 |
omeow | crimsun, in the mean time, i've succesfully built the latest svn version. | 01:36 |
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crimsun | omeow: it'd be best to coordinate w/ debian to have a new snapshot, then. | 01:39 |
omeow | I don't know how to do that. | 01:39 |
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crimsun | omeow: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting | 01:41 |
crimsun | omeow: link to the Ubuntu bug report and the Gentoo bug report | 01:41 |
crimsun | omeow: then suggest that the maintainer consider a snapshot | 01:42 |
omeow | That easy? :) Ok then. | 01:42 |
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kmilo | Adios | 02:31 |
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bddebian | We really do have some whacky packages in the archive :) | 02:43 |
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imbrandon | lol | 02:51 |
imbrandon | yea | 02:51 |
TheMuso | Does any MOTU think that big #53434 could be a dapper-updates candidate? Mind you, it has receved its first update in Debian earlier this year. No changes have been made to it since 2003. | 02:58 |
TheMuso | bug #53434 | 02:59 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 53434 in gradio "gradio binary is installed into /usr/X11R6/bin" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53434 | 02:59 |
TheMuso | I stated it was fixed in edgy, but am just wondering about it. | 02:59 |
crimsun | honestly, no, it's not an -updates candidate. | 03:00 |
TheMuso | Didn't think so. | 03:01 |
crimsun | although it involves a fairly trivial fix (one line, two at most), it does not actually fix a usability bug. | 03:02 |
TheMuso | Yeah I know. | 03:02 |
TheMuso | Just wanted a second opinion. | 03:02 |
TheMuso | Thanks crimsun. | 03:02 |
crimsun | np. | 03:02 |
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LaserJock | bddebian: hm? | 03:10 |
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LaserJock | bmonty! | 04:14 |
bmonty | hi LaserJock | 04:14 |
bddebian | LaserJock!! | 04:15 |
bddebian | Hi bmonty | 04:15 |
LaserJock | hola bddebian | 04:16 |
bddebian | Como esta usted? | 04:16 |
LaserJock | hehe, now don't make me use babelfish | 04:17 |
bddebian | Heh | 04:17 |
bmonty | muy bien | 04:17 |
LaserJock | my spanish is terrible for somebody who lives in Nevada | 04:17 |
LaserJock | the only thing I can say is I was raised in Montana | 04:17 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:17 |
bmonty | I know how to say some things that will quickly start a fight :) | 04:17 |
LaserJock | and even then, my wife (also born and raised in MT) minored in Spanish in college so she nows more than me | 04:18 |
bddebian | Donde esta el bano | 04:18 |
bmonty | LaserJock: my wife minored in spanish....I order the beer, she does everything else | 04:18 |
LaserJock | hehe | 04:18 |
imbrandon | lol | 04:18 |
bddebian | heh | 04:18 |
LaserJock | anytime I'm in a fast food place here I try to pick up stuff, so far they just talk to fast for me | 04:20 |
LaserJock | or I can read the sample ballots I just got in the mail ;-) | 04:21 |
imbrandon | LaserJock: checkout http://radio.weblogs.com/0142338/ | 04:21 |
imbrandon | podcast quote "A series of podcasts aimed at helping you in your efforts to learn Spanish using unconventional techniques I developed during the seven years I spent in Spain teaching English and learning Spanish. " | 04:22 |
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LaserJock | imbrandon: hmm, I need to find a German version of that | 04:24 |
imbrandon | ;) | 04:24 |
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LaserJock | anybody on jabber.org right now? | 04:25 |
bmonty | LaserJock: I am | 04:25 |
LaserJock | bmonty: and you can connect? for some reason I haven't been able to for the last hour or so | 04:26 |
imbrandon | i am also | 04:26 |
bmonty | gaim says that I am currently connected | 04:26 |
imbrandon | hrm i just just dissconnected and reconnected and no probs | 04:26 |
bmonty | ...and another merge bites the dust | 04:26 |
bmonty | LaserJock: what is your screen name I'll send a test message to you | 04:28 |
bddebian | :-) | 04:28 |
imbrandon | bmonty: i bet its on LP ;) | 04:28 |
LaserJock | bmonty: laserjock@ | 04:29 |
LaserJock | I just connected by turning of the SSL | 04:29 |
imbrandon | heh LaserJock you type "laserjock" in the wiki search and you get redirected to EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock | 04:30 |
LaserJock | haha | 04:30 |
imbrandon | heh i was expecting /JordanMathis (sp? ) hehehe | 04:31 |
LaserJock | Mantha | 04:31 |
imbrandon | thats why i made a page /imbrandon and /BrandonHoltsclaw the latter redirects to the former ;) | 04:31 |
LaserJock | ah, smart | 04:31 |
bmonty | imbrandon: good idea | 04:31 |
imbrandon | ahh right, heheh was doing it from memory and my memory sucks ;) | 04:32 |
imbrandon | WRT real name esp | 04:32 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:32 |
LaserJock | imbrandon: yes, well, in hindsight I think I might have choosen a better IRC nick | 04:34 |
imbrandon | leaste i was close though ;) hehe | 04:34 |
LaserJock | heh | 04:34 |
imbrandon | heh yea i was "Eagle" on irc for many years ( 95/96ish to 2002 ) then i discovered that was hard to search for in google | 04:35 |
tseng | wow you're old | 04:35 |
imbrandon | but if you want to lookup the old stuff i did with mono development or UOX3 or RunUO and a few other projects back then , you have to look for "Eagle" on the mono dev mailing lists etc LOL | 04:36 |
imbrandon | tseng: old? umm i'm only 27 heh | 04:36 |
bddebian | Shut up tseng ;-) | 04:36 |
tseng | hah. | 04:36 |
tseng | I assume we arent thinking of the same mono | 04:36 |
tseng | the one with the squeaky mexican accent | 04:37 |
imbrandon | mono as in the GNU .net stuff ;) | 04:37 |
tseng | hm, cool | 04:37 |
tseng | I had no idea | 04:37 |
LaserJock | imbrandon: wow, I didn't know they had IRC back then | 04:37 |
bddebian | tseng: Is your buddy over in -devel a core-dev, MOTU or anything else? | 04:37 |
tseng | bddebian: what? | 04:37 |
bddebian | You shut up too LaserJock :-) | 04:38 |
bddebian | tseng: bluefoxicy | 04:38 |
tseng | dude | 04:38 |
imbrandon | LaserJock: hahaha yea IRC has been arround for a LONG time | 04:38 |
tseng | that guy is a nobody | 04:38 |
bddebian | I know so why doesn't someone shut his ass up? | 04:38 |
tseng | if it wasnt for CoC and the whole CC/TB watching i would have beat him silly a long time ago | 04:38 |
tseng | I mean... | 04:38 |
tseng | given him a thumbs up | 04:39 |
bddebian | hehe | 04:39 |
bddebian | And you thought (think?) I talk too much.. Sheesh :-) | 04:39 |
imbrandon | heh i'm waiting for someone to boot him on the grounds of the CoC , he is quite demeaning to women in IRC and many other things | 04:39 |
tseng | well, no one is dumb enough to put me in the access list | 04:39 |
bddebian | heh | 04:40 |
tseng | or he'd be gone | 04:40 |
bmonty | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1459.txt?number=1459, published in 1993 | 04:40 |
imbrandon | heh -devel is about the only place i dont have access list to ;) | 04:40 |
tseng | I first got on 99 or 2000 | 04:40 |
tseng | OPN | 04:40 |
tseng | was the place to be | 04:40 |
bddebian | 93? Hell I was already 23 by then.. :'-( | 04:40 |
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imbrandon | yea i was an IRCop on stratics irc network back then ( 95/96ish ) | 04:41 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 04:41 |
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imbrandon | hrm in 93 i was a freshman in HS ;) | 04:41 |
tseng | lamont looked at the DOB on my passport on our way back to the US | 04:41 |
tseng | mumbled something about a bunch of kids | 04:41 |
imbrandon | lol | 04:42 |
bmonty | bddebian: I think geratrics can still be tried for assualt and battery | 04:42 |
bmonty | s/geratrics/geriatrics | 04:43 |
imbrandon | bout the only thing i got left from those days is my low ICQ number and "eagle" username on sf.net becouse i'm too lazy to get a new one | 04:43 |
bddebian | bmonty: Yeah but we get minimum security.. :-) | 04:44 |
bmonty | I remember getting yelled at by the sys admin at my school because the IRC client I was using took up too much processor time | 04:44 |
LaserJock | lol | 04:44 |
bmonty | ..or maybe that was a MUD client....hmmm, something like that | 04:44 |
imbrandon | funny enough my wife ( not at the time ) gave me that name "Eagle" , LaserJock you know shes native right, and "Eagle" is short for "Walking Eagle, too full of sh*t to fly" | 04:45 |
LaserJock | lol | 04:45 |
imbrandon | ;P | 04:45 |
bmonty | bddebian: I don't think you can collect social security in prison | 04:45 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 04:46 |
bddebian | Doh :-( | 04:46 |
LaserJock | don't worry, he isn't getting any anyway | 04:46 |
bddebian | imbrandon: That's funny (Eagle) | 04:46 |
bddebian | LaserJock: Haha, good point | 04:46 |
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bmonty | LaserJock: neither are we | 04:46 |
LaserJock | I gave up on that a long time ago | 04:46 |
LaserJock | and I'm only 24 | 04:46 |
bmonty | smart man | 04:46 |
bmonty | its just another tax as far as I'm concerned | 04:47 |
imbrandon | yea even if we did get SS it would be like 5$ a month | 04:47 |
imbrandon | ;) | 04:47 |
bmonty | imbrandon: or the equivalent in the future...for bddebian, it might be worth a little more | 04:47 |
imbrandon | hehe | 04:47 |
LaserJock | that's why I'm throwing all my chips in for getting the Nobel in Chemistry | 04:50 |
LaserJock | ;-) | 04:50 |
bddebian | Bunch o' freakin' whippersnappers | 04:51 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:51 |
imbrandon | ahh finaly found an old refrence to "Eagle" heh 2002 http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/mono-list/2002-June/006186.html | 04:52 |
imbrandon | that was about the time i was ditching it becouse it was hard to google for | 04:52 |
imbrandon | its sad when the things you do online are goverened by if they are easy to grep^Wgoogle for | 04:53 |
imbrandon | lol | 04:53 |
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bddebian | heh | 04:54 |
LaserJock | hmm, there are a lot of laserjocks out there | 04:55 |
imbrandon | hehe | 04:56 |
LaserJock | I guess that is a good thing | 04:57 |
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bmonty | night everyone | 04:59 |
imbrandon | gnight bmonty | 04:59 |
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tseng | imbrandon: so why arent you fixing mono bugs in ubuntu ? :) | 05:00 |
bddebian | Yeah | 05:01 |
bddebian | Gnight bmonty_away | 05:01 |
imbrandon | tseng: tbh just lazyness hehe i'll probably get back to it someday | 05:04 |
tseng | imbrandon: ok. | 05:04 |
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imbrandon | bddebian: shush ;) | 05:05 |
LaserJock | bddebian: I think I must be both | 05:05 |
bddebian | LaserJock: Oh BS | 05:05 |
tseng | I am all three | 05:05 |
bddebian | You are Mr. Laser guy | 05:05 |
bddebian | tseng: 3? | 05:05 |
imbrandon | heheh | 05:05 |
imbrandon | is that kinda like personal one "i'm tired" person two " me too " and person three ( blonde ) " me 3 " ? | 05:06 |
imbrandon | heh | 05:06 |
tseng | kinda | 05:06 |
tseng | but my battery light is flashing | 05:06 |
tseng | thats a sign to go to bed | 05:06 |
imbrandon | ahh | 05:06 |
bddebian | Ack | 05:07 |
tseng | bye. | 05:07 |
bddebian | Gnight tseng | 05:07 |
imbrandon | gngiht man | 05:07 |
imbrandon | gnight* | 05:07 |
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LaserJock | cya tseng | 05:08 |
imbrandon | hrm anyone semi familiar with wget | 05:08 |
bddebian | Somewhat | 05:09 |
imbrandon | so i can be lazy and not read the man LOL | 05:09 |
LaserJock | wget <thing you want to get> | 05:09 |
imbrandon | what woudl be the command line options to download the irc logs all in one shot from fabianone | 05:09 |
imbrandon | wget *.html only grabs the index heh | 05:09 |
LaserJock | yeah, html is tough that way | 05:10 |
imbrandon | or another easy^simple way | 05:10 |
LaserJock | with ftp you can do the * stuff | 05:10 |
imbrandon | yea i noticed | 05:10 |
imbrandon | but i dont think there is an ftp interface to the logs | 05:10 |
imbrandon | hrm i wounder if rsync would work | 05:10 |
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bddebian | Yeah, wget doesn't handle regexp / multiple files very well :-( | 05:11 |
imbrandon | ;( | 05:12 |
imbrandon | ok one last stupid question i should already know and/or ask in #ubuntu but you guys rock lol is .... | 05:12 |
imbrandon | how can i tell from a script if a process is running | 05:13 |
imbrandon | so i dont start it twice via cron | 05:13 |
imbrandon | test -x /blah works with files only right ? | 05:13 |
imbrandon | i guess the "wrong" way would be to have the script create a file and then when done delete the file , and when its run test for the file and ext if the file exists | 05:14 |
imbrandon | but there should be a simpler way | 05:14 |
imbrandon | s/ext/exit | 05:14 |
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TheMuso | imbrandon: Maybe pidof will do what you want? | 05:17 |
imbrandon | pidof? hrm ok i'll google that | 05:18 |
TheMuso | man pidof | 05:18 |
imbrandon | or man ;) | 05:18 |
imbrandon | ahhh yea looks like exactly what i want , thanks TheMuso | 05:20 |
TheMuso | welcome | 05:20 |
bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:03 |
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Hobbsee | hi all | 06:14 |
Amaranth | i can't triage bugs i own? | 06:23 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: not unless you're part of -qa | 06:23 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: what did you want changed where? | 06:24 |
Amaranth | it's not important | 06:24 |
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Amaranth | just want to set the severity of an alacarte but to whatever one above wishlist is | 06:24 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: bug #? | 06:25 |
Amaranth | bug 54748 | 06:25 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 54748 in alacarte "Browse dialog doesn't escape spaces in command path" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54748 | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: if you've been triaging bugs for a while, you're welcome to apply to join the ubuntu-qa team | 06:25 |
Amaranth | heh | 06:26 |
Amaranth | i don't have time | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: well, no, that's what they say | 06:26 |
Amaranth | i just want to let him know that i won't be able to get to this for a bit because it's not a huge thing | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: what do you want it as? wishlist? | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: or low? | 06:26 |
Amaranth | low | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: done :) | 06:26 |
Amaranth | thanks | 06:27 |
Amaranth | it's kind of broken that i can't change all aspect of a bug i own | 06:27 |
TheMuso | Amaranth: It was actually changed like that for a reason. | 06:27 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: was to stop people assigning $mypetbugaboutscreensaversorsomething as high priority | 06:27 |
Amaranth | Random people can take ownership of a bug and max it out? | 06:28 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: anyone can take ownership of a bug. they just cant change the priority | 06:29 |
Amaranth | I meant before that change. ) | 06:29 |
Amaranth | err, :) | 06:29 |
Hobbsee | Amaranth: ah | 06:30 |
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imbrandon | crimsun: ping | 07:35 |
crimsun | imbrandon: pong | 07:36 |
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imbrandon | crimsun: about the upstream version of apt-mirror , i'm getting my patches togather for it right now to upload to ubuntu i know the policy is -0ubuntu2 but fixing the upstream version if there is no upstreeam can i bump it to 4.5 ? | 07:39 |
imbrandon | and make it a native package ? | 07:39 |
imbrandon | or ummm you know what i'm getting at | 07:39 |
crimsun | imbrandon: I'd keep the current nomenclature until you hear back from the original maintainer | 07:39 |
imbrandon | ok | 07:40 |
imbrandon | err i guess -2ubuntu2 heh | 07:40 |
imbrandon | in this case but yea | 07:40 |
FunnyLookinHat | Ahh crap, just got back from being gone for the past three days and I missed a ping in here along the way, haha | 07:57 |
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dholbach | good morning | 08:32 |
ajmitch | morning daniel | 08:32 |
dholbach | hey Andrew | 08:32 |
imbrandon | moins guys | 08:33 |
ajmitch | we need to clean up a few bugs assigned to motureviewers | 08:36 |
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dholbach | that sounds like a very good plan | 08:37 |
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ajmitch | found a few that don't apply to edgy now | 08:37 |
ajmitch | ah, someone made libcm packages | 08:38 |
ajmitch | a shame I hadn't uploaded mine before they went to the effort | 08:39 |
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dholbach | didn't we have libcm packages in dapper too? | 08:40 |
ajmitch | yes | 08:40 |
ajmitch | old & out of date | 08:40 |
dholbach | ah ok | 08:40 |
ajmitch | can't build metacity with them | 08:40 |
dholbach | maybe you can talk to rodarvus about it? | 08:41 |
ajmitch | the packages this person supplied would have needed fixing anyway | 08:41 |
ajmitch | sure I can, but it's a lib on GNOME CVS | 08:41 |
dholbach | ah, I didn't know | 08:41 |
ajmitch | metacity is the only user I know of | 08:41 |
ajmitch | bugs like 6004, I'd leave to slomo_ | 08:43 |
ajmitch | well, 28 open bugs for motureviewers | 08:47 |
ajmitch | I'm sure a few of them are still valid :) | 08:47 |
Toadstool | good morning | 08:51 |
ajmitch | morning Toadstool | 08:51 |
Toadstool | hi ajmitch | 08:52 |
Hobbsee | hi Toadstool | 08:52 |
Toadstool | hey Hobbsee | 08:52 |
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ajmitch | hi viviersf | 08:53 |
viviersf | loa ajmitch | 08:54 |
viviersf | how u | 08:54 |
ajmitch | alright | 08:55 |
viviersf | kewl | 08:55 |
ajmitch | lp going down for maintenance soon, perfect time for me to go & get some dinner | 08:59 |
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pmjdebruijn | lo | 12:01 |
pmjdebruijn | can somebody tell me what is obviously silly about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19374 ? | 12:01 |
ajmitch | pmjdebruijn: missing #!/bin/sh | 12:03 |
pmjdebruijn | ajmitch, huh? the debhelper generated ones, don't have that either? | 12:09 |
pmjdebruijn | so I assumed that wasn't nessecary, anyway I'll try | 12:09 |
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phanatic | hello everyone | 12:17 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: i should be there, as i'm going for core. | 01:50 |
Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, yay \o/ | 01:51 |
Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: :) | 01:52 |
Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: want to cheer for me | 01:52 |
Hobbsee | ? | 01:52 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: ;P | 01:52 |
ajmitch | ah, you did decide to go for it already | 01:52 |
Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, sure, if you cheer for me too ;) | 01:52 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: quite possibly, yes. | 01:53 |
Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: hehe | 01:53 |
ajmitch | there's no 'possibly' about it, if you've hit the join team link, as I see you have | 01:53 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: :P | 01:54 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: well, i say possibly, so you cant outright disapprove | 01:54 |
imbrandon | heh | 01:54 |
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ajmitch | you think I disapprove? | 01:54 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: i know you did with MOTU | 01:55 |
ajmitch | no, I didn't | 01:56 |
tseng | me too | 01:56 |
tseng | no more aussies | 01:56 |
tseng | with your funny time zones | 01:56 |
Hobbsee | tseng: hehe. it's not my fault that you're living in the past | 01:56 |
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pmjdebruijn | ajmitch, thanks, the preinst and postrm scripts now work! | 02:27 |
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frandavid100 | hiya! | 03:28 |
frandavid100 | I'm reading through the packaging guide | 03:28 |
frandavid100 | trying to create a changelog, but I'm rather clueless | 03:29 |
frandavid100 | could someone give me a hand? | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | frandavid100: to create a changelog, or edit it? | 03:29 |
phanatic | frandavid100: are you using dh_make? | 03:29 |
frandavid100 | don't even know what it is... I'm just creating the changelog from scratch | 03:31 |
frandavid100 | I'm following this http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html | 03:31 |
frandavid100 | there's a template for the changelog: | 03:32 |
frandavid100 | package (version) distribution; urgency=urgency * change details more change details * even more change details -- maintainer name <email address>[two spaces] date | 03:32 |
frandavid100 | guess package (version) would be tsaver 0.4 | 03:32 |
frandavid100 | edgy urgency=low | 03:33 |
frandavid100 | can't say any change details because the package is not in the repos | 03:33 |
phanatic | the best would be to have a look at a _real_ changelog file. get a package source from the archives with apt-get source | 03:34 |
frandavid100 | I'm having a look at hello's | 03:35 |
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frandavid100 | the program's name is timesaver | 03:36 |
frandavid100 | but the package's is tsaver | 03:36 |
frandavid100 | which one should I use? tsaver? | 03:36 |
phanatic | i think yes | 03:36 |
frandavid100 | right | 03:37 |
frandavid100 | So it looks like this | 03:39 |
frandavid100 | tsaver (0.4) unstable; urgency=low | 03:39 |
frandavid100 | -- David Prieto <frandavid100@gmail.com> Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:38:51 +0200 | 03:39 |
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Amaranth | frandavid100: s/unstable/edgy/ | 03:41 |
Amaranth | and you have to have some bullet points in there | 03:41 |
Amaranth | even if it's just "* Initial package." or something | 03:41 |
frandavid100 | those are for the changelog right? | 03:41 |
frandavid100 | 'K | 03:42 |
azeem | hi Barry | 03:42 |
frandavid100 | I'm with the control file now | 03:42 |
bddebian | Hey azeem | 03:42 |
bddebian | Heya gang | 03:42 |
frandavid100 | how can I know what section this particular program is in? | 03:43 |
frandavid100 | or the priority for that matter | 03:43 |
Yagisan | frandavid100, priority is always low. | 03:43 |
frandavid100 | aha | 03:44 |
Amaranth | indeed, we don't use that part | 03:44 |
Amaranth | i think that's only used in debian to hurry something from unstable to testing | 03:44 |
Yagisan | Amaranth, and if we did, it's only changed on security/rc bugs | 03:45 |
frandavid100 | so I can leave it like this? | 03:45 |
frandavid100 | Source: tsaver | 03:45 |
frandavid100 | Section: devel | 03:45 |
Yagisan | frandavid100, section is easy. what section are similar apps ? | 03:45 |
frandavid100 | Priority: low | 03:45 |
frandavid100 | no idea... don't know what sections are there | 03:46 |
frandavid100 | office maybe? | 03:46 |
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Yagisan | frandavid100, in the *control* file use priority optional or priority extra | 03:47 |
frandavid100 | right | 03:47 |
Yagisan | frandavid100, and in the changelog urgency is always low | 03:48 |
frandavid100 | Maintainer: David Prieto <frandavid100@gmail.com> | 03:48 |
frandavid100 | Standards-Version: 0.4 | 03:48 |
frandavid100 | Package: tsaver | 03:48 |
frandavid100 | Architecture: any (?) | 03:48 |
Yagisan | frandavid100, perhaps a pastebin would help ? | 03:48 |
frandavid100 | sorry... I don't know what a pastebin is :S | 03:49 |
frandavid100 | I'm a total noob you see | 03:49 |
frandavid100 | anyway... Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} | 03:50 |
frandavid100 | and... Description: (I took the one from Gnomefiles) | 03:50 |
frandavid100 | would this be a compliant control file? | 03:51 |
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Yagisan | frandavid100, this is a pastebin http://rafb.net/paste/ | 03:52 |
frandavid100 | just noticed the standards version was wrong... corrected it | 03:52 |
frandavid100 | oh... that ay I can paste the text there you mean... didn't know it even existed | 03:53 |
frandavid100 | thanks for pointing me to it | 03:54 |
Yagisan | np | 03:54 |
frandavid100 | so, here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/ViOcSd47.html | 03:54 |
frandavid100 | is that valid? | 03:54 |
frandavid100 | and... any way to find out what the architecture is? | 03:56 |
Amaranth | any means it'll work on any of the archs ubuntu builds on, all means it doesn't need a recompile for different arches (python programs, shell scripts, doc files, etc) | 03:58 |
frandavid100 | well any way to know where it will work? | 03:59 |
Amaranth | put it as any and hope for the best | 04:00 |
frandavid100 | right | 04:01 |
frandavid100 | I'm on the copyright part | 04:01 |
Amaranth | there aren't too many packages that aren't any unless they're binary blobs | 04:01 |
frandavid100 | do you guys really use this part? | 04:01 |
Amaranth | you mean the copyright file? it's important | 04:01 |
frandavid100 | where do you get the info to fill Copyright (C) {Year(s)} by {Author(s)} {Email address(es)} | 04:02 |
frandavid100 | ? | 04:02 |
Yagisan | frandavid100, from the source | 04:02 |
frandavid100 | should there be a copyright file in the source? | 04:03 |
frandavid100 | I got one called authors | 04:04 |
frandavid100 | contains the author's name and address | 04:04 |
frandavid100 | nothing about copyright | 04:04 |
azeem | there must be a debian/copyright, yes | 04:06 |
azeem | eh | 04:06 |
azeem | frandavid100: check the source files then for copyright boilerplate | 04:06 |
azeem | usually the AUTHORS also hold the copyright | 04:06 |
frandavid100 | yep | 04:07 |
frandavid100 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/o3UaHT99.html | 04:09 |
frandavid100 | is this correct, or maybe should I take out the part starting with "preamble"? | 04:09 |
azeem | you don't need to duplicate the full GPL in debian/copyright, point to common-licenses | 04:10 |
frandavid100 | how would it look it like, then? | 04:11 |
azeem | just see any other GPL'd package | 04:11 |
frandavid100 | aham | 04:11 |
frandavid100 | nex item... do you create the rules file manually? | 04:14 |
frandavid100 | there's a lot of stuff I don't know there | 04:14 |
azeem | dh-make creates a templates/skeleton | 04:15 |
azeem | or you could adopt another packages' rules file | 04:15 |
frandavid100 | that's cool | 04:15 |
azeem | don't run dh-make now, or it will overwrite your other files | 04:15 |
frandavid100 | I think I'll take the dh-make method... as long as it's explained later on the guide! | 04:16 |
azeem | like debian/copyright | 04:16 |
frandavid100 | hm | 04:16 |
frandavid100 | could just move them somewhere else | 04:16 |
azeem | well, make a backup of your debian/ tree | 04:16 |
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frandavid100 | dh-make doesn't seem to be a valid command tho... and I'd swear I have it installed | 04:18 |
frandavid100 | yep I do | 04:19 |
bddebian | dh_make | 04:19 |
frandavid100 | what's the right command then? | 04:19 |
frandavid100 | oh | 04:19 |
frandavid100 | right | 04:19 |
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frandavid100 | it's much easier with dh-make :) | 04:31 |
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frandavid100 | I tried to build it... but got an error :8 | 04:36 |
frandavid100 | :( | 04:36 |
frandavid100 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/JkyArx68.html | 04:36 |
phanatic | frandavid100: could you also paste the appropriate file? (debian/control) | 04:37 |
frandavid100 | sure | 04:38 |
frandavid100 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/LQq1nO27.html | 04:38 |
frandavid100 | here you are | 04:38 |
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phanatic | frandavid100: all lines in the long description should begin with a space | 04:40 |
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frandavid100 | like this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/FLring45.html | 04:44 |
frandavid100 | but I keep getting the same error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/BWeiUN19.html | 04:45 |
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geser | delete line 12 and insert in line 19 and 25 a "." | 04:48 |
geser | you can't have emtpy lines | 04:49 |
frandavid100 | right I think it worked now :D | 04:50 |
frandavid100 | so... no empty lines, space to begin each, . at the start of a paragraph | 04:50 |
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frandavid100 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/KLMdJZ87.html | 04:52 |
frandavid100 | but I'm still getting the error part | 04:52 |
geser | I've I understand it correctly (it's spanish?) it complains it couldn't find the target clean in the Makefile | 04:55 |
frandavid100 | yes it's spanish... the exact translation would be "there's no rule to build the `clean' target. Stop. | 04:57 |
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bddebian | Holy crap, how did my karma get to ~400,000???? | 05:15 |
FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, don't ask, just take it and be like " I AM YOUR UBUNTU MASTER " | 05:15 |
tseng | Bug Management 398463 | 05:16 |
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tseng | you filed several bugs a day | 05:16 |
tseng | apperantly | 05:16 |
tseng | 32674 | 05:16 |
tseng | my points are way up as well | 05:16 |
bddebian | Oh, the sync requests, how lame :-) | 05:16 |
tseng | but I rarely go in and clean up bugs | 05:17 |
tseng | so not that high :) | 05:17 |
tseng | I should clean up beagle bugs | 05:17 |
tseng | most of them are so bad | 05:17 |
tseng | I wish people could judge what bugs belong upstream | 05:17 |
bddebian | Aye | 05:18 |
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Spec | Where should python service 'foobar' be placed in the filesystem via .deb? not /usr/local ? | 05:45 |
azeem | nothing should be places under /usr/local in a .deb | 05:47 |
azeem | s/places/placed/ | 05:47 |
Spec | so where should it be placed? | 05:47 |
Spec | it's a little webserver | 05:47 |
azeem | where under /usr/local would it have been placed? | 05:48 |
phanatic | Spec: /usr/sbin maybe | 05:48 |
Spec | well, it relies on stuff that's in the folder it sits in | 05:48 |
phanatic | if it's a simple script | 05:48 |
Spec | nope, not just a simple script :-/ | 05:48 |
azeem | Spec: that doesn't sound right | 05:48 |
phanatic | then it should be rewritten :) | 05:48 |
Spec | i didn't write it :p | 05:49 |
azeem | so don't package it :) | 05:49 |
Spec | someone else asked me to package it as a favour | 05:49 |
Spec | maybe i'll package it into /usr/local and violate debian policy ^.^ | 05:50 |
azeem | as long as you don't plan to upload it anywhere, that'sfine | 05:51 |
Spec | well, my own apt server. | 05:51 |
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hub | dholbach: I need an advocate for hugin 0.6 that is on REVU, so that I can upload it to edgy now that the licensing has bee fixed. | 06:11 |
dholbach | hub: hm, does nobody else have a bit of time? :( | 06:13 |
hub | ah well whoever else | 06:13 |
hub | the package had alreayd been approved | 06:13 |
hub | but the upload got rejected due to licensing issues | 06:14 |
hub | said licensing has been addressed upstream | 06:14 |
hub | dholbach: or shall I raise the topic about more efficient reviewing on the motu mailing list? | 06:17 |
dholbach | Yes, I think that's a good idea. | 06:18 |
dholbach | In the end it's all about people doing it, but if we can simplify things (maybe technically), we probably should. | 06:18 |
hub | like the motu tools, I still don't see a reference anywhere | 06:19 |
hub | lot of things can be automated | 06:19 |
dholbach | maybe, yes | 06:20 |
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lucas | is there a page listing stuff that a newcomer to ubuntu development should/could do ? | 06:53 |
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aa_ | hello | 06:53 |
aa_ | what should I do about: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pida/+bug/42882 before the same thing happens with edgy? | 06:54 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 42882 in pida "PIDA version in dapper is very old" [Medium,Confirmed] | 06:54 |
lucas | aa_: become an ubuntu dev and fix it yourself ;p | 06:54 |
ogra | lucas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources ? | 06:54 |
aa_ | lucas: well, I wrote the application | 06:55 |
aa_ | lucas: also debian has a newer application | 06:55 |
aa_ | isn't there some magical thing involved? | 06:55 |
bddebian | If Debian's is newer it will come over in Edgy | 06:56 |
aa_ | promise? | 06:56 |
bddebian | I promise nothing :-) | 06:56 |
aa_ | hehehe | 06:56 |
phanatic | bddebian: it has to be merged i think | 06:56 |
aa_ | can someone please merge it? | 06:57 |
bddebian | Ah yes, it's on the Merges list, I'll check it out | 06:57 |
aa_ | it is really bad for my applicaiton | 06:57 |
bddebian | If dholbach doesn't mind | 06:57 |
aa_ | and I keep getting the same bug reports | 06:57 |
aa_ | bddebian: wow thanks | 06:57 |
ogra | aa_, i'm a fan of pida, so let me make that promise ... it will be updated in edgy ;) | 06:57 |
aa_ | ogra: wow, thanks! | 06:57 |
dholbach | bddebian: why me? | 06:57 |
ogra | ah, bddebian cares already :) | 06:57 |
bddebian | dholbach: You uploaded last :-) | 06:58 |
aa_ | well, then thank-you for your assurances, and have a nice day :) | 06:58 |
dholbach | bddebian: pffft - go ahead :-))) | 06:58 |
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bddebian | OK | 06:58 |
ogra | aa_, if thats done you could ask for a backport to dapper ;) just file a bug then and assign it to the backports team | 06:58 |
bddebian | pbuilding now | 07:00 |
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bddebian | Doh, bashisms in Debian/rules... :-) | 07:02 |
ogra | heh | 07:02 |
ogra | fix them :) | 07:02 |
bddebian | rm debian/pida/usr/share/pida/{AUTHORS,CONTRIBUTORS,COPYING} | 07:02 |
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bddebian | Well you can always do !bin/bash :-) | 07:05 |
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bddebian | OK, pida uploaded | 07:14 |
ogra | :) | 07:16 |
bddebian | Any other requests, your highnesses? ;-) | 07:19 |
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bddebian | Heya Laser | 07:36 |
bddebian | Err LaserJock | 07:37 |
LaserJock | sorry | 07:37 |
bddebian | For what? | 07:37 |
LaserJock | half of me is away (still in bed_ | 07:37 |
bddebian | Hehe | 07:37 |
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LaserJock | holy moly, bzr's website got quite the face-lift | 07:45 |
dholbach | holy cow, yes | 07:54 |
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LaserJock | hi Zdra_ | 08:27 |
Zdra_ | :) | 08:27 |
LaserJock | ok, so how are you building the source package and .deb? | 08:28 |
Zdra_ | I just run "debuild" | 08:28 |
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LaserJock | ok, you probably want to build it in 2 different steps, 1) build the source package with debuild -S and 2) build the .deb using pbuilder (or something similar) | 08:29 |
frandavid100 | hi again | 08:29 |
LaserJock | what happens is if you just run debuild it uses your source directory to build the .deb and so it gets messed up with files from the build | 08:29 |
LaserJock | hi frandavid100 | 08:29 |
cypher1 | how do i include *.png files in the .deb.. when i did a pbuilder it packaged without the image files :( | 08:30 |
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Zdra_ | LaserJock: ok I'll try that way and I think google can teach me enough to understand how it works :) | 08:31 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: I think we can do a bit better than google | 08:31 |
LaserJock | :-) | 08:31 |
LaserJock | !packgingguide | 08:32 |
ubotu | I know nothing about packgingguide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 08:32 |
bddebian | cypher1: Adding binary files to a package is difficult to impossible. You are better off either using something like an xpm format or uuencoding the binary and then uudecoding it on build | 08:32 |
LaserJock | dang it | 08:32 |
bddebian | LaserJock: mopac7 looks like a sync. Did you want/need anything with that before I ask for a sync? | 08:32 |
LaserJock | !packaging | 08:33 |
ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 08:33 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: ^^ | 08:33 |
LaserJock | bddebian: nah, if it's a sync then sync it? it wasn't on my list? | 08:33 |
Zdra_ | LaserJock: thanks :) | 08:33 |
cypher1 | bddebian, sorry it is a .kbm file | 08:33 |
cypher1 | bddebian, also i did not understand you completely | 08:34 |
LaserJock | cypher1: the problem is that the .diff.gz doesn't handle binary files | 08:35 |
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LaserJock | so you can include a source (like svg) or a non-binary image (like an .xpm) | 08:35 |
LaserJock | or you can use uuencode and uudecode to turn the binary into ASCII | 08:36 |
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LaserJock | and back | 08:36 |
allo | hello! | 08:36 |
LaserJock | hello! | 08:36 |
frandavid100 | can someone please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/110484? | 08:37 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: if you have any problems with the Packaging Guide let me know. | 08:37 |
frandavid100 | It's what I get when I try to sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc --with-wx-config | 08:37 |
LaserJock | are you build deping on wx? | 08:38 |
LaserJock | hmm, doesn't look like it | 08:38 |
allo | does someone want to have a look at the klik package? it now works fine for me. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2823 | 08:38 |
bddebian | LaserJock: Ah, OK | 08:38 |
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LaserJock | bddebian: ah ok, what? | 08:38 |
Zdra_ | LaserJock: ok, I don't need advanced things, just compile a package to easily test my patches :) | 08:38 |
bddebian | LaserJock: Ah, OK, I'll request a sync :-) | 08:40 |
bddebian | bbiam | 08:40 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: ok, check out the pbuilder section (https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/gs-pbuilder.html) | 08:41 |
allo | btw: why does loopmounting not work in the edgy livecd? so i cannot test the package on the livecd :-( | 08:41 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: once you have a pbuilder set up, you use it to build the .deb | 08:41 |
Gloubiboulga | frandavid100, you need to build depend on wxwidget | 08:42 |
frandavid100 | how could I do that? | 08:42 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: so 1) make changes 2) rebuild source package with debuild -S -us -uc 3) build .deb with sudo pbuilder build <newpackage>.dsc | 08:43 |
LaserJock | Zdra_: does that make sense? | 08:43 |
crimsun | (adding libwxgtk2.6-dev) | 08:43 |
frandavid100 | I have to install that on my system? | 08:43 |
LaserJock | no | 08:43 |
Gloubiboulga | frandavid100, in debian/control, you need to add 'libwxgtk2.6-dev' to the Build-Depends: line | 08:43 |
frandavid100 | oh right | 08:44 |
frandavid100 | silly me :S | 08:44 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks crimsun :) | 08:44 |
crimsun | (np) | 08:44 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, sorry how do i add to source ? is it by editing debian/control file ? | 08:44 |
Zdra_ | LaserJock: I'm testing ... | 08:45 |
LaserJock | cypher1: what do you want to add? | 08:45 |
cypher1 | i have a file with extension .kbm | 08:45 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, i want some files like that also to be included in the .deb.. which is not happening now | 08:46 |
frandavid100 | I did it... Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), autotools-dev, libwxgtk2.6-dev | 08:46 |
frandavid100 | but I keep getting the same error http://pastebin.ca/110500 | 08:46 |
LaserJock | frandavid100: did you rebuild the source package? | 08:47 |
frandavid100 | d'oh | 08:47 |
frandavid100 | no I didn't | 08:47 |
LaserJock | cypher1: well, I've never heard of that format in particular | 08:48 |
LaserJock | cypher1: but look at the man page for uuencode (and uudecode) which is in the sharutils package | 08:49 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, sorry for not being clear, i was building a game which uses files with those extensions.. which i guess contains some image data | 08:49 |
LaserJock | cypher1: how many? | 08:50 |
LaserJock | why do you need to put that in the packageing? | 08:50 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, i guess more than 5-6 | 08:50 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, the binary reads those files during startup | 08:50 |
LaserJock | but they aren't in the source? | 08:51 |
LaserJock | the original tarball | 08:51 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, yes it is there | 08:51 |
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LaserJock | ok, then you confused me | 08:51 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, sorry | 08:52 |
LaserJock | you have images in the .orig.tar.gz that aren't getting installed? | 08:52 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, that are getting in the .deb | 08:52 |
cypher1 | sorry that are not getting in the .deb | 08:52 |
bddebian | re | 08:52 |
LaserJock | cypher1: ok, thats totally different than what I was thinking, lol | 08:52 |
cypher1 | :) | 08:53 |
LaserJock | does the package have a debian/install file? | 08:53 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, no | 08:54 |
LaserJock | or <packagename>.install? | 08:54 |
cypher1 | i had just did a debuid -S for creating the debian directory but install or packaganame.install file is not there | 08:55 |
frandavid100 | LaserJock: I rebuilt the source but I still get the same: | 08:55 |
frandavid100 | http://pastebin.ca/110506 can you take a look? | 08:55 |
LaserJock | cypher1: then use dh_install (read the man page for more info) in debian/rules if the package uses debhelper | 08:56 |
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cypher1 | LaserJock, thanks let me read and try it | 08:58 |
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Toadstool | hey everybody | 09:05 |
Gloubiboulga | hi Toadstool | 09:05 |
bddebian | Heya Toadstool, Gloubiboulga | 09:05 |
Toadstool | hi Gloubiboulga, bddebian | 09:05 |
Toadstool | Gloubiboulga: ready? :) | 09:05 |
Gloubiboulga | hi bddebian | 09:05 |
Gloubiboulga | Toadstool, yep :) | 09:05 |
LaserJock | tritium: hehe | 09:07 |
tritium | heh | 09:07 |
tritium | HOw are you, LaserJock ? | 09:07 |
LaserJock | fine | 09:07 |
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cypher1 | will it be a good idea if we plan for a lecture in packaging ? | 09:16 |
cypher1 | i think that will be useful for someone like me who is very new to packaging | 09:17 |
omeow | There was one like a week ago. | 09:17 |
cypher1 | oops missed it | 09:17 |
cypher1 | where can i find the text of it ? | 09:18 |
cypher1 | i meant the URL | 09:18 |
crimsun | you can also check the Packaging Guide. | 09:18 |
cypher1 | crimsun, yes but IMHO there are several things assumed there | 09:19 |
cypher1 | like i am just learning curve of what control, rules file is | 09:19 |
LaserJock | cypher1: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School | 09:19 |
zul | when is the next one? | 09:20 |
LaserJock | I don't know if one has been planned | 09:20 |
LaserJock | I would like to see one every week, but that might be a bit much | 09:20 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, thanks :) but wont the lectures be captured somewhere ? | 09:22 |
LaserJock | yeah, you click on the link | 09:22 |
cypher1 | LaserJock, sorry ignore it.. just noticed | 09:22 |
LaserJock | I'll also try to incorporate what I can into the Packaging Guide | 09:23 |
cypher1 | i am feeling effects of getting tired sorry | 09:23 |
LaserJock | argg, a broken package was uploaded to -updates | 09:28 |
Toadstool | nice... | 09:29 |
LaserJock | it didn't take too long to get a bug report about it either ;-) | 09:30 |
LaserJock | who can upload to -updates? only core-dev? or can a MOTU upload a Universe package? | 09:30 |
Toadstool | hmm, I think we can and it's processed manually... but you'dbetter ask on -devel :) | 09:31 |
LaserJock | well, I wonder if I should let the person who broke it, fix it | 09:32 |
Toadstool | which package by the way? | 09:32 |
LaserJock | matplotlib | 09:33 |
Toadstool | yep, found the bug report ;) | 09:33 |
LaserJock | I noticed it yesterday on my machine at home | 09:34 |
LaserJock | the problem is he didn't adjust the deps on the other matplotlib binaries from ubuntu1 to ubuntu2 | 09:34 |
Toadstool | er, yeah :/ | 09:36 |
crimsun | -updates is open to ubuntu-dev but requires kamion/mdz approval; processing is manual | 09:36 |
Toadstool | ok, good to know | 09:37 |
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crimsun | poor Gloubiboulga got caught in the crossfire :) | 10:25 |
Gloubiboulga | indeed :) | 10:25 |
Toadstool | yeah :) | 10:25 |
Gloubiboulga | so quiet on #u-meeting... scarry | 10:28 |
Toadstool | mdz must be preparing something really nasty : | 10:29 |
Toadstool | :p | 10:29 |
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Gloubiboulga | yeah, run, run ;) | 10:30 |
crimsun | congrats, Gloubiboulga! | 10:30 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks :D | 10:31 |
bddebian | On? | 10:31 |
bddebian | Did I miss a freakin' meeting again? | 10:31 |
crimsun | (core-dev) | 10:31 |
bddebian | Oh sweet, congrats Gloubiboulga | 10:31 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks bddebian :) | 10:31 |
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LaserJock | ack, is it over? | 10:38 |
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Gloubiboulga | nop, ubuntu-devs turn now | 10:39 |
LaserJock | congrats Gloubiboulga | 10:40 |
LaserJock | anybody else make core-dev? | 10:40 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks Laser_away | 10:40 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks LaserJock :) | 10:40 |
crimsun | Sarah's not present, so I don't think so. | 10:40 |
LaserJock | is azeem up ATM? | 10:41 |
crimsun | yes. | 10:41 |
ogra | LaserJock, cheer for him ;) | 10:42 |
ogra | (if ou like indeed) | 10:43 |
crimsun | bddebian: (the point you raise, while valid, isn't necessarily applicable to azeem) | 10:45 |
bddebian | Why not? | 10:46 |
crimsun | there's the entire issue of "predicting the future", for one. | 10:46 |
crimsun | (besides, we're supposed to bolster his application, not sidetrack it.) | 10:46 |
bddebian | All I am saying is there are policys that I don't even know and I live here | 10:47 |
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crimsun | today's TB is in a grilling mood, I see. | 10:54 |
crimsun | must be the weather | 10:54 |
Gloubiboulga | yep :/ | 10:54 |
LaserJock | interesting for sure | 10:54 |
LaserJock | maybe they weren't properly bribed with large amounts of alcohol | 10:54 |
bddebian | Yeah, glad I didn't ask for main again.. ;-P | 10:54 |
Hobbsee | they were easy-ish last time. | 10:54 |
Hobbsee | it's m#dz and mgj69? | 10:55 |
Toadstool | hey Hobbsee! | 10:56 |
Hobbsee | jhi Toadstool | 10:56 |
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Gloubiboulga | 1 hour to review 2 candidates... it's quite long | 11:03 |
crimsun | congrats, azeem! | 11:03 |
Toadstool | great! welcome, azeem :) | 11:03 |
Gloubiboulga | welcome azeem :) | 11:03 |
LaserJock | wahooooo! | 11:03 |
azeem | thanks :) | 11:03 |
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LaserJock | oh dang, that means I will be his slave forever ;( | 11:03 |
bddebian | W00t, congrats azeem | 11:04 |
siretart | Gloubiboulga: congrats to you as well! :) | 11:04 |
bddebian | LaserJock: :-) Now I think I lost my job though.. :'-( | 11:04 |
Toadstool | Gloubiboulga: maybe that's because he's always been here ;) | 11:04 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks siretart :) | 11:04 |
Gloubiboulga | Toadstool, yep, and really helpfull | 11:04 |
Toadstool | indeed | 11:04 |
LaserJock | azeem: btw, is it late there? | 11:05 |
LaserJock | must be off to the pub already ;-) | 11:06 |
Gloubiboulga | hm, I have to wake up in 5 hours, maybe it's time to go to bed :) | 11:10 |
Gloubiboulga | see you! | 11:10 |
allee | azeem: congrats too from me! | 11:12 |
tseng | imbrandon: tough crowd :) | 11:14 |
imbrandon | hehe yea | 11:15 |
imbrandon | look so | 11:15 |
tseng | its ok, mdz likes to be sure we arent getting people who arent committed | 11:16 |
tseng | like me | 11:16 |
Hobbsee | tseng: ouch. is keybuk still around and voting? | 11:17 |
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tseng | Hobbsee: yes | 11:17 |
Hobbsee | wish i could just bypass mdz :P | 11:17 |
tseng | Hobbsee: you had petter step up | 11:17 |
tseng | Hobbsee: you were passed by | 11:17 |
LaserJock | tseng: was that "people who areen't committed like me"? ;-) | 11:17 |
tseng | LaserJock: yes. | 11:17 |
tseng | LaserJock: i suck | 11:17 |
Hobbsee | tseng: yeah, so i saw. i was very asleep | 11:17 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: For what, I thought you were already an MOTU? You going for main already? | 11:18 |
crimsun | congrats, imbrandon! | 11:18 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: yes | 11:18 |
Hobbsee | tseng: uh oh, i must be tired :P | 11:18 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Holy crap, wow | 11:18 |
bddebian | WOw, congrats imbrandon! | 11:19 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: you've never seen how hard it is to get anything thru main? | 11:19 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Oh I have, that's part of the reason I tried to get in, but apparently I'm not good enough | 11:19 |
LaserJock | imbrandon: wahoooo! | 11:19 |
tseng | Hobbsee: is it? | 11:19 |
imbrandon | whoo hoo | 11:20 |
tseng | I think I was the first coredev approved by TB | 11:20 |
imbrandon | thanks guys ( everyone ) for the kind words and cheering | 11:20 |
LaserJock | heh | 11:20 |
azeem | LaserJock: I was cleaning up the kitchen :) | 11:22 |
azeem | 23:22 here | 11:22 |
Hobbsee | tseng: very. particularly on kde side, because most devs wont take it | 11:23 |
LaserJock | azeem: I've got an updated gausssum ready to go for sid | 11:23 |
azeem | yay | 11:23 |
LaserJock | azeem: what's the best way of getting it to you? | 11:23 |
azeem | point me to a source package | 11:24 |
LaserJock | k | 11:24 |
tseng | Hobbsee: sorry, not personal | 11:24 |
Hobbsee | tseng: i realise that | 11:25 |
Hobbsee | tseng: it's okay | 11:25 |
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tritium | FunnyLookinHat, bddebian: how the mythtv packaging coming? | 11:25 |
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LaserJock | azeem: I got an email today that a bug was filed because of the new python policy but I already packaged the fix ;-) | 11:26 |
LaserJock | azeem: do I need to go back and put a Closes: in the changelog? | 11:26 |
FunnyLookinHat | tritium, err... I have been pulled away from it for the past week or so | 11:27 |
LaserJock | wow, he got straight to the point there | 11:27 |
tritium | FunnyLookinHat: anything I can do to help? | 11:27 |
tseng | LaserJock: you should see him in person | 11:27 |
azeem | LaserJock: that would be preferred, but you could also close it via -done | 11:27 |
azeem | if it is too much hassle | 11:28 |
bddebian | tritium: I'm waiting for libie something or other to come through NEW | 11:28 |
bddebian | It's a build-dep | 11:28 |
FunnyLookinHat | tritium, I'm pretty much on the right track and just need to figure out some odds and ends of package. I've gotten it to compile fine and all : ) | 11:28 |
LaserJock | azeem: well, it really just takes a sec to nano the changelog and rebuild the source package | 11:28 |
tritium | FunnyLookinHat, bddebian: okay, let me know if I can do anything. Thanks! | 11:28 |
crimsun | tritium: fixallmythtvbugskthx | 11:28 |
tritium | crimsun: :) | 11:29 |
azeem | LaserJock: then it's probably better, also if somebody is later looking at changelog | 11:29 |
LaserJock | true | 11:30 |
LaserJock | I was just annoyed because I just got everything all set | 11:30 |
LaserJock | and I get a bug email about something I just fixed ;-) | 11:30 |
azeem | LaserJock: well, that's extra points for ultra-fast bug fixing ;) | 11:31 |
LaserJock | hehe | 11:31 |
bddebian | FunnyLookinHat: Are you using Marillat's packages for mythtv? | 11:32 |
tritium | bddebian: what are you starting from? | 11:33 |
LaserJock | azeem: it's the 1.0.4-1 ( new upstream) package at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/debian/ | 11:34 |
bddebian | tritium: My intent was to use Marillat's package but if FunnyLookinHat is working on it, I will back off | 11:35 |
tritium | bddebian: no, that would be a bad thing! | 11:36 |
bddebian | ? | 11:36 |
tritium | To back off... | 11:37 |
tritium | Work together :) | 11:37 |
tseng | Hobbsee: dh_mkshlibs for future reference. | 11:37 |
Hobbsee | tseng: ah...thanks | 11:37 |
crimsun | or dh_makeshlibs(1) in Edgy | 11:38 |
tseng | yes, spelling counts. | 11:38 |
bddebian | tritium: Oh, there is plenty of other work to do :-) | 11:38 |
LaserJock | yeah, that is still a confusing one to me. I sorta get it | 11:38 |
tritium | bddebian: true | 11:39 |
crimsun | (longest TB ever!) | 11:44 |
LaserJock | really? | 11:45 |
FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, marillat hasn't updated in a long time and he has no plans to, at least that's what he said when i emailed him | 11:45 |
FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, my goal was to incorporate version .19 into multiverse | 11:45 |
bddebian | .19 is in debian-multimedia | 11:46 |
FunnyLookinHat | ... | 11:46 |
FunnyLookinHat | it wasn't 3 weeks ago, lol | 11:46 |
bddebian | Let me make sure I'm not on crack, hang on | 11:46 |
FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, then I vote for integrating the one that is already built, it just makes sense and follows how it was done in the psat | 11:47 |
FunnyLookinHat | Ok | 11:47 |
FunnyLookinHat | hah | 11:47 |
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tritium | bddebian: it there. Ive seen it | 11:47 |
bddebian | Yeah, 0.19-0.10 | 11:47 |
FunnyLookinHat | ok well in that case, i vote integrate. | 11:48 |
tritium | Can we package it for ubuntu from his sources? | 11:48 |
bddebian | But it needs libieFOO that is sitting in NEW | 11:48 |
FunnyLookinHat | that's funny because I emailed Christian about a month ago and he said nothing about it... | 11:48 |
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tritium | getting 0.19 into edgy would rock | 11:48 |
FunnyLookinHat | To package it from his sources would we just run dh_make with his source package unpacked? | 11:49 |
FunnyLookinHat | (I'm still very new to the packaging techniques) | 11:49 |
crimsun | be VERY carefully when importing from marillat. | 11:49 |
bddebian | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=libie | 11:49 |
crimsun | you'll essentially need to scour the entire packaging and make sure it aligns with Ubuntu's current scheme. | 11:50 |
azeem | LaserJock: eh, uploaded, btw | 11:50 |
tritium | crimsun: what are the nasties to look out for? | 11:50 |
LaserJock | azeem: oh, thanks. awesome | 11:50 |
tritium | policy violations? | 11:50 |
FunnyLookinHat | maybe bddebian should handle this then. I would rather not create more confusion with the project (as I seem to be doing) | 11:50 |
crimsun | tritium: anything that involves stuff Ubuntu has had to repackage, like ffmpeg | 11:50 |
bddebian | FunnyLookinHat: No, not at all | 11:50 |
crimsun | FunnyLookinHat: it's easier for you guys to work together, seriously | 11:51 |
tritium | crimsun: were these repacked for legal issues? | 11:51 |
crimsun | and for other reasons | 11:51 |
tritium | FunnyLookinHat: stick with it :) | 11:52 |
FunnyLookinHat | heh ok, though now I am fairly lost as to what I should be doing | 11:53 |
FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, if you find something you need me to do go ahead and email me (funnylookinhat@gmail.com) (i am afk on irc a lot)... and maybe I can figure it out? | 11:53 |
bddebian | Well, now crimsun has me worried :-) | 11:54 |
FunnyLookinHat | well you just have to check the debian/copyright and dependencies for marillat stuff iirc | 11:54 |
tritium | me too, bddebian ;) | 11:55 |
lucas | hub: around ? weren't you the one talking about more efficient ways to work inside motu ? | 11:56 |
lucas | the -meeting discussion [kubuntu devs failing to get their packages sponsored] might interest you | 11:57 |
Hobbsee | lucas: heh, yeah. | 11:57 |
bddebian | Later folks | 12:00 |
=== Kyral sighs | ||
Kyral | Looks like more work to do lol | 12:04 |
Kyral | First EasyChem and now GTKEdit | 12:04 |
Kyral | Funny someone noticed my ancient ITP in Debian for GTKEdit, which I never fulfilled because the response was that "Its a GTK1 App and we are trying to get away from GTK1" | 12:05 |
LaserJock | anybody here think motu-reviewers LP is working well? | 12:06 |
Kyral | Though quite frankly, I'm half ready to orphan all my packages and leave the project | 12:06 |
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