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omeowo/12:17
omeowI see...12:17
omeowThanks Riddell. :)12:17
omeowzsnes 1.42 is very old, from 2005 as far as I know. Now, the version that comes with edgy doesn't work, it crashes on startup.12:18
omeowI've reported the issue here; https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/5419912:18
UbugtuMalone bug 54199 in zsnes "zsnes segfault on startup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 12:18
omeowAnd since then, i've checked out their repository and build zsnes from source, which is very recent. Not quite sure why they don't release a new version, but the svn build works fine on edgy.12:19
bddebianomeow: What's the latest upstream version?12:21
crimsunshawarma: zsnes is most recently your merge. omeow has LP #54199. Any plans?12:21
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omeowhang on12:21
omeow*uses google instead of launchpad search*12:21
omeowhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/1.420-1ubuntu112:21
bddebianAye, and as I said there is a new merge for that -2 from Debian.  I mean what is the new upstream, upstream version?12:22
crimsun1.42 is the latest.12:23
omeowYes, but for some reason they don't release versions often enough.12:23
crimsunIt only very recently entered debian etch, so the debian maintainer may have plans.12:23
crimsuns/entered/migrated to/12:24
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bddebianomeow: zsnes -2 builds fine from Debian but I don't know if it fixes your segfault12:39
omeowMust I make use of pbuilder to test if the build works?12:39
crimsunno, but you have to install the deb to test.12:41
omeowOk, very well. Send me the deb and I'll test it.12:42
bddebianI'll post it, give me a sec12:44
omeowok12:44
bddebianhttp://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/zsnes/12:46
omeowhehe, let me just finish this game of King of Dragon. :)12:47
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omeowOk, bddebian, just finished the game. :)01:23
omeowI'll try the package now.01:23
Amaranthin my .install file can i just put, say, "foo.service" and have that package claim ownership of foo.service where ever it might be located?01:24
omeowbddebian, the program still crashes.01:27
crimsunomeow: strace and/or gdb bt, please.01:34
omeowWhat for? It's the same error as I attached to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/5419901:35
UbugtuMalone bug 54199 in zsnes "zsnes segfault on startup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 01:35
omeowcrimsun, in the mean time, i've succesfully built the latest svn version.01:36
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crimsunomeow: it'd be best to coordinate w/ debian to have a new snapshot, then.01:39
omeowI don't know how to do that.01:39
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crimsunomeow: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting01:41
crimsunomeow: link to the Ubuntu bug report and the Gentoo bug report01:41
crimsunomeow: then suggest that the maintainer consider a snapshot01:42
omeowThat easy? :) Ok then.01:42
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kmiloAdios02:31
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bddebianWe really do have some whacky packages in the archive :)02:43
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imbrandonlol02:51
imbrandonyea02:51
TheMusoDoes any MOTU think that big #53434 could be a dapper-updates candidate? Mind you, it has receved its first update in Debian earlier this year. No changes have been made to it since 2003.02:58
TheMusobug #5343402:59
UbugtuMalone bug 53434 in gradio "gradio binary is installed into /usr/X11R6/bin" [Untriaged,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5343402:59
TheMusoI stated it was fixed in edgy, but am just wondering about it.02:59
crimsunhonestly, no, it's not an -updates candidate.03:00
TheMusoDidn't think so.03:01
crimsunalthough it involves a fairly trivial fix (one line, two at most), it does not actually fix a usability bug.03:02
TheMusoYeah I know.03:02
TheMusoJust wanted a second opinion.03:02
TheMusoThanks crimsun.03:02
crimsunnp.03:02
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LaserJockbddebian: hm?03:10
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LaserJockbmonty!04:14
bmontyhi LaserJock04:14
bddebianLaserJock!!04:15
bddebianHi bmonty04:15
LaserJockhola bddebian04:16
bddebianComo esta usted?04:16
LaserJockhehe, now don't make me use babelfish04:17
bddebianHeh04:17
bmontymuy bien04:17
LaserJockmy spanish is terrible for somebody who lives in Nevada04:17
LaserJockthe only thing I can say is I was raised in Montana04:17
imbrandonheh04:17
bmontyI know how to say some things that will quickly start a fight :)04:17
LaserJockand even then, my wife (also born and raised in MT) minored in Spanish in college so she nows more than me04:18
bddebianDonde esta el bano04:18
bmontyLaserJock: my wife minored in spanish....I order the beer, she does everything else04:18
LaserJockhehe04:18
imbrandonlol04:18
bddebianheh04:18
LaserJockanytime I'm in a fast food place here I try to pick up stuff, so far they just talk to fast for me04:20
LaserJockor I can read the sample ballots I just got in the mail ;-)04:21
imbrandonLaserJock: checkout http://radio.weblogs.com/0142338/04:21
imbrandonpodcast quote "A series of podcasts aimed at helping you in your efforts to learn Spanish using unconventional techniques I developed during the seven years I spent in Spain teaching English and learning Spanish. "04:22
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LaserJockimbrandon: hmm, I need to find a German version of that04:24
imbrandon;)04:24
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LaserJockanybody on jabber.org right now?04:25
bmontyLaserJock: I am04:25
LaserJockbmonty: and you can connect? for some reason I haven't been able to for the last hour or so04:26
imbrandoni am also04:26
bmontygaim says that I am currently connected04:26
imbrandonhrm i just just dissconnected and reconnected and no probs04:26
bmonty...and another merge bites the dust04:26
bmontyLaserJock: what is your screen name I'll send a test message to you04:28
bddebian:-)04:28
imbrandonbmonty: i bet its on LP ;)04:28
LaserJockbmonty: laserjock@04:29
LaserJockI just connected by turning of the SSL04:29
imbrandonheh LaserJock you type "laserjock" in the wiki search and you get redirected to EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock04:30
LaserJockhaha04:30
imbrandonheh i was expecting /JordanMathis (sp? ) hehehe04:31
LaserJockMantha04:31
imbrandonthats why i made a page /imbrandon and /BrandonHoltsclaw the latter redirects to the former ;)04:31
LaserJockah, smart04:31
bmontyimbrandon: good idea04:31
imbrandonahh right, heheh was doing it from memory and my memory sucks ;)04:32
imbrandonWRT real name esp04:32
imbrandonheh04:32
LaserJockimbrandon: yes, well, in hindsight I think I might have choosen a better IRC nick04:34
imbrandonleaste i was close though ;) hehe04:34
LaserJockheh04:34
imbrandonheh yea i was "Eagle" on irc for many years ( 95/96ish to 2002 ) then i discovered that was hard to search for in google04:35
tsengwow you're old04:35
imbrandonbut if you want to lookup the old stuff i did with mono development or UOX3 or RunUO and a few other projects back then , you have to look for "Eagle" on the mono dev mailing lists etc LOL04:36
imbrandontseng: old? umm i'm only 27 heh04:36
bddebianShut up tseng ;-)04:36
tsenghah.04:36
tsengI assume we arent thinking of the same mono04:36
tsengthe one with the squeaky mexican accent04:37
imbrandonmono as in the GNU .net stuff ;)04:37
tsenghm, cool04:37
tsengI had no idea04:37
LaserJockimbrandon: wow, I didn't know they had IRC back then04:37
bddebiantseng: Is your buddy over in -devel a core-dev, MOTU or anything else?04:37
tsengbddebian: what?04:37
bddebianYou shut up too LaserJock :-)04:38
bddebiantseng: bluefoxicy04:38
tsengdude04:38
imbrandonLaserJock: hahaha yea IRC has been arround for a LONG time04:38
tsengthat guy is a nobody04:38
bddebianI know so why doesn't someone shut his ass up?04:38
tsengif it wasnt for CoC and the whole CC/TB watching i would have beat him silly a long time ago04:38
tsengI mean...04:38
tsenggiven him a thumbs up04:39
bddebianhehe04:39
bddebianAnd you thought (think?) I talk too much.. Sheesh :-)04:39
imbrandonheh i'm waiting for someone to boot him on the grounds of the CoC , he is quite demeaning to women in IRC and many other things04:39
tsengwell, no one is dumb enough to put me in the access list04:39
bddebianheh04:40
tsengor he'd be gone04:40
bmontyhttp://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1459.txt?number=1459, published in 199304:40
imbrandonheh -devel is about the only place i dont have access list to ;)04:40
tsengI first got on 99 or 200004:40
tsengOPN04:40
tsengwas the place to be04:40
bddebian93?  Hell I was already 23 by then.. :'-(04:40
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imbrandonyea i was an IRCop on stratics irc network back then ( 95/96ish )04:41
imbrandonhahaha04:41
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imbrandonhrm in 93 i was a freshman in HS ;)04:41
tsenglamont looked at the DOB on my passport on our way back to the US04:41
tsengmumbled something about a bunch of kids04:41
imbrandonlol04:42
bmontybddebian: I think geratrics can still be tried for assualt and battery04:42
bmontys/geratrics/geriatrics04:43
imbrandonbout the only thing i got left from those days is my low ICQ number and "eagle" username on sf.net becouse i'm too lazy to get a new one04:43
bddebianbmonty: Yeah but we get minimum security.. :-)04:44
bmontyI remember getting yelled at by the sys admin at my school because the IRC client I was using took up too much processor time04:44
LaserJocklol04:44
bmonty..or maybe that was a MUD client....hmmm, something like that04:44
imbrandonfunny enough my wife ( not at the time ) gave me that name "Eagle" , LaserJock you know shes native right, and "Eagle" is short for "Walking Eagle, too full of sh*t to fly"04:45
LaserJocklol04:45
imbrandon;P04:45
bmontybddebian: I don't think you can collect social security in prison04:45
imbrandonhahaha04:46
bddebianDoh :-(04:46
LaserJockdon't worry, he isn't getting any anyway04:46
bddebianimbrandon: That's funny (Eagle)04:46
bddebianLaserJock: Haha, good point04:46
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bmontyLaserJock: neither are we04:46
LaserJockI gave up on that a long time ago04:46
LaserJockand I'm only 2404:46
bmontysmart man04:46
bmontyits just another tax as far as I'm concerned04:47
imbrandonyea even if we did get SS it would be like 5$ a month04:47
imbrandon;)04:47
bmontyimbrandon: or the equivalent in the future...for bddebian, it might be worth a little more04:47
imbrandonhehe04:47
LaserJockthat's why I'm throwing all my chips in for getting the Nobel in Chemistry04:50
LaserJock;-)04:50
bddebianBunch o' freakin' whippersnappers04:51
imbrandonheh04:51
imbrandonahh finaly found an old refrence to "Eagle" heh 2002 http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/mono-list/2002-June/006186.html04:52
imbrandonthat was about the time i was ditching it becouse it was hard to google for04:52
imbrandonits sad when the things you do online are goverened by if they are easy to grep^Wgoogle for04:53
imbrandonlol04:53
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bddebianheh04:54
LaserJockhmm, there are a lot of laserjocks out there04:55
imbrandonhehe04:56
LaserJockI guess that is a good thing04:57
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bmontynight everyone04:59
imbrandongnight bmonty04:59
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tsengimbrandon: so why arent you fixing mono bugs in ubuntu ? :)05:00
bddebianYeah05:01
bddebianGnight bmonty_away05:01
imbrandontseng: tbh just lazyness hehe i'll probably get back to it someday05:04
tsengimbrandon: ok.05:04
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imbrandonbddebian: shush ;)05:05
LaserJockbddebian: I think I must be both05:05
bddebianLaserJock: Oh BS05:05
tsengI am all three05:05
bddebianYou are Mr. Laser guy05:05
bddebiantseng: 3?05:05
imbrandonheheh05:05
imbrandonis that kinda like personal one "i'm tired" person two " me too " and person three ( blonde ) " me 3 " ?05:06
imbrandonheh05:06
tsengkinda05:06
tsengbut my battery light is flashing05:06
tsengthats a sign to go to bed05:06
imbrandonahh05:06
bddebianAck05:07
tsengbye.05:07
bddebianGnight tseng05:07
imbrandongngiht man05:07
imbrandongnight*05:07
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LaserJockcya tseng05:08
imbrandonhrm anyone semi familiar with wget05:08
bddebianSomewhat05:09
imbrandonso i can be lazy and not read the man LOL05:09
LaserJockwget <thing you want to get>05:09
imbrandonwhat woudl be the command line options to download the irc logs all in one shot from fabianone05:09
imbrandonwget *.html only grabs the index heh05:09
LaserJockyeah, html is tough that way05:10
imbrandonor another easy^simple way05:10
LaserJockwith ftp you can do the * stuff05:10
imbrandonyea i noticed05:10
imbrandonbut i dont think there is an ftp interface to the logs05:10
imbrandonhrm i wounder if rsync would work05:10
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bddebianYeah, wget doesn't handle regexp / multiple files very well :-(05:11
imbrandon;(05:12
imbrandonok one last stupid question i should already know and/or ask in #ubuntu but you guys rock lol is ....05:12
imbrandonhow can i tell from a script if a process is running05:13
imbrandonso i dont start it twice via cron05:13
imbrandontest -x /blah works with files only right ?05:13
imbrandoni guess the "wrong" way would be to have the script create a file and then when done delete the file , and when its run test for the file and ext if the file exists05:14
imbrandonbut there should be a simpler way05:14
imbrandons/ext/exit05:14
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TheMusoimbrandon: Maybe pidof will do what you want?05:17
imbrandonpidof? hrm ok i'll google that05:18
TheMusoman pidof05:18
imbrandonor man ;)05:18
imbrandonahhh yea looks like exactly what i want , thanks TheMuso05:20
TheMusowelcome05:20
bddebianGnight folks06:03
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Hobbseehi all06:14
Amaranthi can't triage bugs i own?06:23
HobbseeAmaranth: not unless you're part of -qa06:23
HobbseeAmaranth: what did you want changed where?06:24
Amaranthit's not important06:24
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Amaranthjust want to set the severity of an alacarte but to whatever one above wishlist is06:24
HobbseeAmaranth: bug #?06:25
Amaranthbug 5474806:25
UbugtuMalone bug 54748 in alacarte "Browse dialog doesn't escape spaces in command path" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5474806:25
HobbseeAmaranth: if you've been triaging bugs for a while, you're welcome to apply to join the ubuntu-qa team06:25
Amaranthheh06:26
Amaranthi don't have time06:26
HobbseeAmaranth: well, no, that's what they say06:26
Amaranthi just want to let him know that i won't be able to get to this for a bit because it's not a huge thing06:26
HobbseeAmaranth: what do you want it as?  wishlist?06:26
HobbseeAmaranth: or low?06:26
Amaranthlow06:26
HobbseeAmaranth: done :)06:26
Amaranththanks06:27
Amaranthit's kind of broken that i can't change all aspect of a bug i own06:27
TheMusoAmaranth: It was actually changed like that for a reason.06:27
HobbseeAmaranth: was to stop people assigning $mypetbugaboutscreensaversorsomething as high priority06:27
AmaranthRandom people can take ownership of a bug and max it out?06:28
HobbseeAmaranth: anyone can take ownership of a bug.  they just cant change the priority06:29
AmaranthI meant before that change. )06:29
Amarantherr, :)06:29
HobbseeAmaranth: ah06:30
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imbrandoncrimsun: ping07:35
crimsunimbrandon: pong07:36
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imbrandoncrimsun: about the upstream version of apt-mirror , i'm getting my patches togather for it right now to upload to ubuntu i know the policy is -0ubuntu2 but fixing the upstream version if there is no upstreeam can i bump it to 4.5 ?07:39
imbrandonand make it a native package ?07:39
imbrandonor ummm you know what i'm getting at07:39
crimsunimbrandon: I'd keep the current nomenclature until you hear back from the original maintainer07:39
imbrandonok07:40
imbrandonerr i guess -2ubuntu2 heh07:40
imbrandonin this case but yea07:40
FunnyLookinHatAhh crap, just got back from being gone for the past three days and I missed a ping in here along the way, haha07:57
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dholbachgood morning08:32
ajmitchmorning daniel08:32
dholbachhey Andrew08:32
imbrandonmoins guys08:33
ajmitchwe need to clean up a few bugs assigned to motureviewers08:36
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dholbachthat sounds like a very good plan08:37
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ajmitchfound a few that don't apply to edgy now08:37
ajmitchah, someone made libcm packages08:38
ajmitcha shame I hadn't uploaded mine before they went to the effort08:39
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dholbachdidn't we have libcm packages in dapper too?08:40
ajmitchyes08:40
ajmitchold & out of date08:40
dholbachah ok08:40
ajmitchcan't build metacity with them08:40
dholbachmaybe you can talk to rodarvus about it?08:41
ajmitchthe packages this person supplied would have needed fixing anyway08:41
ajmitchsure I can, but it's a lib on GNOME CVS08:41
dholbachah, I didn't know08:41
ajmitchmetacity is the only user I know of08:41
ajmitchbugs like 6004, I'd leave to slomo_08:43
ajmitchwell, 28 open bugs for motureviewers08:47
ajmitchI'm sure a few of them are still valid :)08:47
Toadstoolgood morning08:51
ajmitchmorning Toadstool08:51
Toadstoolhi ajmitch08:52
Hobbseehi Toadstool08:52
Toadstoolhey Hobbsee08:52
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ajmitchhi viviersf08:53
viviersfloa ajmitch08:54
viviersfhow u08:54
ajmitchalright08:55
viviersfkewl08:55
ajmitchlp going down for maintenance soon, perfect time for me to go & get some dinner08:59
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pmjdebruijnlo12:01
pmjdebruijncan somebody tell me what is obviously silly about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19374 ?12:01
ajmitchpmjdebruijn: missing #!/bin/sh12:03
pmjdebruijnajmitch, huh? the debhelper generated ones, don't have that either?12:09
pmjdebruijnso I assumed that wasn't nessecary, anyway I'll try12:09
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phanatichello everyone12:17
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Hobbseeimbrandon: i should be there, as i'm going for core.01:50
GloubiboulgaHobbsee, yay \o/01:51
HobbseeGloubiboulga: :)01:52
HobbseeGloubiboulga: want to cheer for me01:52
Hobbsee?01:52
imbrandonHobbsee: ;P01:52
ajmitchah, you did decide to go for it already01:52
GloubiboulgaHobbsee, sure, if you cheer for me too ;)01:52
Hobbseeajmitch: quite possibly, yes.01:53
HobbseeGloubiboulga: hehe01:53
ajmitchthere's no 'possibly' about it, if you've hit the join team link, as I see you have01:53
Hobbseeajmitch: :P01:54
Hobbseeajmitch: well, i say possibly, so you cant outright disapprove01:54
imbrandonheh01:54
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ajmitchyou think I disapprove?01:54
Hobbseeajmitch: i know you did with MOTU01:55
ajmitchno, I didn't01:56
tsengme too01:56
tsengno more aussies01:56
tsengwith your funny time zones01:56
Hobbseetseng: hehe.  it's not my fault that you're living in the past01:56
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pmjdebruijnajmitch, thanks, the preinst and postrm scripts now work!02:27
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frandavid100hiya!03:28
frandavid100I'm reading through the packaging guide03:28
frandavid100trying to create a changelog, but I'm rather clueless03:29
frandavid100could someone give me a hand?03:29
Hobbseefrandavid100: to create a changelog, or edit it?03:29
phanaticfrandavid100: are you using dh_make?03:29
frandavid100don't even know what it is... I'm just creating the changelog from scratch03:31
frandavid100I'm following this http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html03:31
frandavid100there's a template for the changelog:03:32
frandavid100package (version) distribution; urgency=urgency    * change details     more change details   * even more change details  -- maintainer name <email address>[two spaces]   date03:32
frandavid100guess package (version) would be tsaver 0.403:32
frandavid100edgy urgency=low03:33
frandavid100can't say any change details because the package is not in the repos03:33
phanaticthe best would be to have a look at a _real_ changelog file. get a package source from the archives with apt-get source03:34
frandavid100I'm having a look at hello's03:35
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frandavid100the program's name is timesaver03:36
frandavid100but the package's is tsaver03:36
frandavid100which one should I use? tsaver?03:36
phanatici think yes03:36
frandavid100right03:37
frandavid100So it looks like this03:39
frandavid100tsaver (0.4) unstable; urgency=low03:39
frandavid100 -- David Prieto <frandavid100@gmail.com>  Tue,  1 Aug 2006 15:38:51 +020003:39
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Amaranthfrandavid100: s/unstable/edgy/03:41
Amaranthand you have to have some bullet points in there03:41
Amarantheven if it's just "* Initial package." or something03:41
frandavid100those are for the changelog right?03:41
frandavid100'K03:42
azeemhi Barry03:42
frandavid100I'm with the control file now03:42
bddebianHey azeem03:42
bddebianHeya gang03:42
frandavid100how can I know what section this particular program is in?03:43
frandavid100or the priority for that matter03:43
Yagisanfrandavid100, priority is always low.03:43
frandavid100aha03:44
Amaranthindeed, we don't use that part03:44
Amaranthi think that's only used in debian to hurry something from unstable to testing03:44
YagisanAmaranth, and if we did, it's only changed on security/rc bugs03:45
frandavid100so I can leave it like this?03:45
frandavid100Source: tsaver03:45
frandavid100Section: devel03:45
Yagisanfrandavid100, section is easy. what section are similar apps ?03:45
frandavid100Priority: low03:45
frandavid100no idea... don't know what sections are there03:46
frandavid100office maybe?03:46
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Yagisanfrandavid100, in the *control* file use priority optional or priority extra03:47
frandavid100right03:47
Yagisanfrandavid100, and in the changelog urgency is always low03:48
frandavid100Maintainer: David Prieto <frandavid100@gmail.com>03:48
frandavid100Standards-Version: 0.403:48
frandavid100Package: tsaver03:48
frandavid100Architecture: any (?)03:48
Yagisanfrandavid100, perhaps a pastebin would help ?03:48
frandavid100sorry... I don't know what a pastebin is :S03:49
frandavid100I'm a total noob you see03:49
frandavid100anyway... Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}03:50
frandavid100and... Description: (I took the one from Gnomefiles)03:50
frandavid100would this be a compliant control file?03:51
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Yagisanfrandavid100, this is a pastebin http://rafb.net/paste/03:52
frandavid100just noticed the standards version was wrong... corrected it03:52
frandavid100oh... that ay I can paste the text there you mean... didn't know it even existed03:53
frandavid100thanks for pointing me to it03:54
Yagisannp03:54
frandavid100so, here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/ViOcSd47.html03:54
frandavid100is that valid?03:54
frandavid100and... any way to find out what the architecture is?03:56
Amaranthany means it'll work on any of the archs ubuntu builds on, all means it doesn't need a recompile for different arches (python programs, shell scripts, doc files, etc)03:58
frandavid100well any way to know where it will work?03:59
Amaranthput it as any and hope for the best04:00
frandavid100right04:01
frandavid100I'm on the copyright part04:01
Amaranththere aren't too many packages that aren't any unless they're binary blobs04:01
frandavid100do you guys really use this part?04:01
Amaranthyou mean the copyright file? it's important04:01
frandavid100where do you get the info to fill Copyright (C) {Year(s)} by {Author(s)} {Email address(es)}04:02
frandavid100?04:02
Yagisanfrandavid100, from the source04:02
frandavid100should there be a copyright file in the source?04:03
frandavid100I got one called authors04:04
frandavid100contains the author's name and address04:04
frandavid100nothing about copyright04:04
azeemthere must be a debian/copyright, yes04:06
azeemeh04:06
azeemfrandavid100: check the source files then for copyright boilerplate04:06
azeemusually the AUTHORS also hold the copyright04:06
frandavid100yep04:07
frandavid100http://rafb.net/paste/results/o3UaHT99.html04:09
frandavid100is this correct, or maybe should I take out the part starting with "preamble"?04:09
azeemyou don't need to duplicate the full GPL in debian/copyright, point to common-licenses04:10
frandavid100how would it look it like, then?04:11
azeemjust see any other GPL'd package04:11
frandavid100aham04:11
frandavid100nex item... do you create the rules file manually?04:14
frandavid100there's a lot of stuff I don't know there04:14
azeemdh-make creates a templates/skeleton04:15
azeemor you could adopt another packages' rules file04:15
frandavid100that's cool04:15
azeemdon't run dh-make now, or it will overwrite your other files04:15
frandavid100I think I'll take the dh-make method... as long as it's explained later on the guide!04:16
azeemlike debian/copyright04:16
frandavid100hm04:16
frandavid100could just move them somewhere else04:16
azeemwell, make a backup of your debian/ tree04:16
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frandavid100dh-make doesn't seem to be a valid command tho... and I'd swear I have it installed04:18
frandavid100yep I do04:19
bddebian dh_make04:19
frandavid100what's the right command then?04:19
frandavid100oh04:19
frandavid100right04:19
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frandavid100it's much easier with dh-make :)04:31
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frandavid100I tried to build it... but got an error :804:36
frandavid100:(04:36
frandavid100http://rafb.net/paste/results/JkyArx68.html04:36
phanaticfrandavid100: could you also paste the appropriate file? (debian/control)04:37
frandavid100sure04:38
frandavid100http://rafb.net/paste/results/LQq1nO27.html04:38
frandavid100here you are04:38
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phanaticfrandavid100: all lines in the long description should begin with a space04:40
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frandavid100like this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/FLring45.html04:44
frandavid100but I keep getting the same error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/BWeiUN19.html04:45
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geserdelete line 12 and insert in line 19 and 25 a "."04:48
geseryou can't have emtpy lines04:49
frandavid100right I think it worked now :D04:50
frandavid100so... no empty lines, space to begin each, . at the start of a paragraph04:50
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frandavid100http://rafb.net/paste/results/KLMdJZ87.html04:52
frandavid100but I'm still getting the error part04:52
geserI've I understand it correctly (it's spanish?) it complains it couldn't find the target clean in the Makefile04:55
frandavid100yes it's spanish... the exact translation would be "there's no rule to build the `clean' target. Stop.04:57
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bddebianHoly crap, how did my karma get to ~400,000????05:15
FunnyLookinHatbddebian, don't ask, just take it and be like " I AM YOUR UBUNTU MASTER "05:15
tsengBug Management  39846305:16
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tsengyou filed several bugs a day05:16
tsengapperantly05:16
tseng3267405:16
tsengmy points are way up as well05:16
bddebianOh, the sync requests, how lame :-)05:16
tsengbut I rarely go in and clean up bugs05:17
tsengso not that high :)05:17
tsengI should clean up beagle bugs05:17
tsengmost of them are so bad05:17
tsengI wish people could judge what bugs belong upstream05:17
bddebianAye05:18
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SpecWhere should python service 'foobar' be placed in the filesystem via .deb? not /usr/local ?05:45
azeemnothing should be places under /usr/local in a .deb05:47
azeems/places/placed/05:47
Specso where should it be placed?05:47
Specit's a little webserver05:47
azeemwhere under /usr/local would it have been placed?05:48
phanaticSpec: /usr/sbin maybe05:48
Specwell, it relies on stuff that's in the folder it sits in05:48
phanaticif it's a simple script05:48
Specnope, not just a simple script :-/05:48
azeemSpec: that doesn't sound right05:48
phanaticthen it should be rewritten :)05:48
Speci didn't write it :p05:49
azeemso don't package it :)05:49
Specsomeone else asked me to package it as a favour05:49
Specmaybe i'll package it into /usr/local and violate debian policy ^.^05:50
azeemas long as you don't plan to upload it anywhere, that'sfine05:51
Specwell, my own apt server.05:51
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hubdholbach: I need an advocate for hugin 0.6 that is on REVU, so that I can upload it to edgy now that the licensing has bee fixed.06:11
dholbachhub: hm, does nobody else have a bit of time? :(06:13
hubah well whoever else06:13
hubthe package had alreayd been approved06:13
hubbut the upload got rejected due to licensing issues06:14
hubsaid licensing has been addressed upstream06:14
hubdholbach: or shall I raise the topic about more efficient reviewing on the motu mailing list?06:17
dholbachYes, I think that's a good idea.06:18
dholbachIn the end it's all about people doing it, but if we can simplify things (maybe technically), we probably should.06:18
hublike the motu tools, I still don't see a reference anywhere06:19
hublot of things can be automated06:19
dholbachmaybe, yes06:20
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lucasis there a page listing stuff that a newcomer to ubuntu development should/could do ?06:53
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aa_hello06:53
aa_what should I do about: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pida/+bug/42882 before the same thing happens with edgy?06:54
UbugtuMalone bug 42882 in pida "PIDA version in dapper is very old" [Medium,Confirmed] 06:54
lucasaa_: become an ubuntu dev and fix it yourself ;p06:54
ogralucas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources ?06:54
aa_lucas: well, I wrote the application06:55
aa_lucas: also debian has a newer application06:55
aa_isn't there some magical thing involved?06:55
bddebianIf Debian's is newer it will come over in Edgy06:56
aa_promise?06:56
bddebianI promise nothing :-)06:56
aa_hehehe06:56
phanaticbddebian: it has to be merged i think06:56
aa_can someone please merge it?06:57
bddebianAh yes, it's on the Merges list, I'll check it out06:57
aa_it is really bad for my applicaiton06:57
bddebianIf dholbach doesn't mind06:57
aa_and I keep getting the same bug reports06:57
aa_bddebian: wow thanks06:57
ograaa_, i'm a fan of pida, so let me make that promise ... it will be updated in edgy ;)06:57
aa_ogra: wow, thanks!06:57
dholbachbddebian: why me?06:57
ograah, bddebian cares already :)06:57
bddebiandholbach: You uploaded last :-)06:58
aa_well, then thank-you for your assurances, and have a nice day :)06:58
dholbachbddebian: pffft - go ahead :-)))06:58
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bddebianOK06:58
ograaa_, if thats done you could ask for a backport to dapper ;) just file a bug then and assign it to the backports team06:58
bddebianpbuilding now07:00
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bddebianDoh, bashisms in Debian/rules... :-)07:02
ograheh07:02
ografix them :)07:02
bddebianrm debian/pida/usr/share/pida/{AUTHORS,CONTRIBUTORS,COPYING}07:02
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bddebianWell you can always do !bin/bash :-)07:05
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bddebianOK, pida uploaded07:14
ogra:)07:16
bddebianAny other requests, your highnesses? ;-)07:19
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bddebianHeya Laser07:36
bddebianErr LaserJock07:37
LaserJocksorry07:37
bddebianFor what?07:37
LaserJockhalf of me is away (still in bed_07:37
bddebianHehe07:37
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LaserJockholy moly, bzr's website got quite the face-lift07:45
dholbachholy cow, yes07:54
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LaserJockhi Zdra_08:27
Zdra_:)08:27
LaserJockok, so how are you building the source package and .deb?08:28
Zdra_I just run "debuild"08:28
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LaserJockok, you probably want to build it in 2 different steps, 1) build the source package with debuild -S and 2) build the .deb using pbuilder (or something similar)08:29
frandavid100hi again08:29
LaserJockwhat happens is if you just run debuild it uses your source directory to build the .deb and so it gets messed up with files from the build08:29
LaserJockhi frandavid10008:29
cypher1how do i include *.png files in the .deb.. when i did a pbuilder it packaged without the image files :(08:30
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Zdra_LaserJock: ok I'll try that way and I think google can teach me enough to understand how it works :)08:31
LaserJockZdra_: I think we can do a bit better than google08:31
LaserJock:-)08:31
LaserJock!packgingguide08:32
ubotuI know nothing about packgingguide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:32
bddebiancypher1: Adding binary files to a package is difficult to impossible.  You are better off either using something like an xpm format or uuencoding the binary and then uudecoding it on build08:32
LaserJockdang it08:32
bddebianLaserJock: mopac7 looks like a sync.  Did you want/need anything with that before I ask for a sync?08:32
LaserJock!packaging08:33
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources08:33
LaserJockZdra_: ^^08:33
LaserJockbddebian: nah, if it's a sync then sync it? it wasn't on my list?08:33
Zdra_LaserJock: thanks :)08:33
cypher1bddebian, sorry it is a .kbm file08:33
cypher1bddebian, also i did not understand you completely08:34
LaserJockcypher1: the problem is that the .diff.gz doesn't handle binary files08:35
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LaserJockso you can include a source (like svg) or a non-binary image (like an .xpm)08:35
LaserJockor you can use uuencode and uudecode to turn the binary into ASCII08:36
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LaserJockand back08:36
allohello!08:36
LaserJockhello!08:36
frandavid100can someone please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/110484?08:37
LaserJockZdra_: if you have any problems with the Packaging Guide let me know.08:37
frandavid100It's what I get when I try to sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc --with-wx-config08:37
LaserJockare you build deping on wx?08:38
LaserJockhmm, doesn't look like it08:38
allodoes someone want to have a look at the klik package? it now works fine for me. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=282308:38
bddebianLaserJock: Ah, OK08:38
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LaserJockbddebian: ah ok, what?08:38
Zdra_LaserJock: ok, I don't need advanced things, just compile a package to easily test my patches :)08:38
bddebianLaserJock: Ah, OK, I'll request a sync :-)08:40
bddebianbbiam08:40
LaserJockZdra_: ok, check out the pbuilder section (https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/gs-pbuilder.html)08:41
allobtw: why does loopmounting not work in the edgy livecd? so i cannot test the package on the livecd :-(08:41
LaserJockZdra_: once you have a pbuilder set up, you use it to build the .deb08:41
Gloubiboulgafrandavid100, you need to build depend on wxwidget08:42
frandavid100how could I do that?08:42
LaserJockZdra_: so 1) make changes 2) rebuild source package with debuild -S -us -uc 3) build .deb with sudo pbuilder build <newpackage>.dsc08:43
LaserJockZdra_: does that make sense?08:43
crimsun(adding libwxgtk2.6-dev)08:43
frandavid100I have to install that on my system?08:43
LaserJockno08:43
Gloubiboulgafrandavid100, in debian/control, you need to add 'libwxgtk2.6-dev' to the Build-Depends: line08:43
frandavid100oh right08:44
frandavid100silly me :S08:44
Gloubiboulgathanks crimsun :)08:44
crimsun(np)08:44
cypher1LaserJock, sorry how do i add to source ? is it by editing debian/control file ?08:44
Zdra_LaserJock: I'm testing ...08:45
LaserJockcypher1: what do you want to add?08:45
cypher1i have a file with extension .kbm08:45
cypher1LaserJock, i want some files like that also to be included in the .deb.. which is not happening now08:46
frandavid100I did it... Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), autotools-dev, libwxgtk2.6-dev08:46
frandavid100but I keep getting the same error http://pastebin.ca/11050008:46
LaserJockfrandavid100: did you rebuild the source package?08:47
frandavid100d'oh08:47
frandavid100no I didn't08:47
LaserJockcypher1: well, I've never heard of that format in particular08:48
LaserJockcypher1: but look at the man page for uuencode (and uudecode) which is in the sharutils package08:49
cypher1LaserJock, sorry for not being clear, i was building a game which uses files with those extensions.. which i guess contains some image data08:49
LaserJockcypher1: how many?08:50
LaserJockwhy do you need to put that in the packageing?08:50
cypher1LaserJock, i guess more than 5-608:50
cypher1LaserJock, the binary reads those files during startup08:50
LaserJockbut they aren't in the source?08:51
LaserJockthe original tarball08:51
cypher1LaserJock, yes it is there08:51
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LaserJockok, then you confused me08:51
cypher1LaserJock, sorry08:52
LaserJockyou have images in the .orig.tar.gz that aren't getting installed?08:52
cypher1LaserJock, that are getting in the .deb08:52
cypher1sorry that are not getting in the .deb08:52
bddebianre08:52
LaserJockcypher1: ok, thats totally different than what I was thinking, lol08:52
cypher1:)08:53
LaserJockdoes the package have a debian/install file?08:53
cypher1LaserJock, no08:54
LaserJockor <packagename>.install?08:54
cypher1i had just did a debuid -S for creating the debian directory but install or packaganame.install file is not there08:55
frandavid100LaserJock: I rebuilt the source but I still get the same:08:55
frandavid100http://pastebin.ca/110506 can you take a look?08:55
LaserJockcypher1: then use dh_install (read the man page for more info) in debian/rules if the package uses debhelper08:56
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cypher1LaserJock, thanks let me read and try it08:58
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Toadstoolhey everybody09:05
Gloubiboulgahi Toadstool09:05
bddebianHeya Toadstool, Gloubiboulga09:05
Toadstoolhi Gloubiboulga, bddebian09:05
ToadstoolGloubiboulga: ready? :)09:05
Gloubiboulgahi bddebian09:05
GloubiboulgaToadstool, yep :)09:05
LaserJocktritium: hehe09:07
tritiumheh09:07
tritiumHOw are you, LaserJock ?09:07
LaserJockfine09:07
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cypher1will it be a good idea if we plan for a lecture in packaging ?09:16
cypher1i think that will be useful for someone like me who is very new to packaging09:17
omeowThere was one like a week ago.09:17
cypher1oops missed it09:17
cypher1where can i find the text of it ?09:18
cypher1i meant the URL09:18
crimsunyou can also check the Packaging Guide.09:18
cypher1crimsun, yes but IMHO there are several things assumed there09:19
cypher1like i am just learning curve of what control, rules file is09:19
LaserJockcypher1: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School09:19
zulwhen is the next one?09:20
LaserJockI don't know if one has been planned09:20
LaserJockI would like to see one every week, but that might be a bit much09:20
cypher1LaserJock, thanks :) but wont the lectures be captured somewhere ?09:22
LaserJockyeah, you click on the link09:22
cypher1LaserJock, sorry ignore it.. just noticed09:22
LaserJockI'll also try to incorporate what I can into the Packaging Guide09:23
cypher1i am feeling effects of getting tired sorry09:23
LaserJockargg, a broken package was uploaded to -updates09:28
Toadstoolnice...09:29
LaserJockit didn't take too long to get a bug report about it either ;-)09:30
LaserJockwho can upload to -updates? only core-dev? or can a MOTU upload a Universe package?09:30
Toadstoolhmm, I think we can and it's processed manually... but you'dbetter ask on -devel :)09:31
LaserJockwell, I wonder if I should let the person who broke it, fix it09:32
Toadstoolwhich package by the way?09:32
LaserJockmatplotlib09:33
Toadstoolyep, found the bug report ;)09:33
LaserJockI noticed it yesterday on my machine at home09:34
LaserJockthe problem is he didn't adjust the deps on the other matplotlib binaries from ubuntu1 to ubuntu209:34
Toadstooler, yeah :/09:36
crimsun-updates is open to ubuntu-dev but requires kamion/mdz approval; processing is manual09:36
Toadstoolok, good to know09:37
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crimsunpoor Gloubiboulga got caught in the crossfire :)10:25
Gloubiboulgaindeed :)10:25
Toadstoolyeah :)10:25
Gloubiboulgaso quiet on #u-meeting... scarry10:28
Toadstoolmdz must be preparing something really nasty :10:29
Toadstool:p10:29
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Gloubiboulgayeah, run, run ;)10:30
crimsuncongrats, Gloubiboulga!10:30
Gloubiboulgathanks :D10:31
bddebianOn?10:31
bddebianDid I miss a freakin' meeting again?10:31
crimsun(core-dev)10:31
bddebianOh sweet, congrats Gloubiboulga10:31
Gloubiboulgathanks bddebian :)10:31
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LaserJockack, is it over?10:38
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Gloubiboulganop, ubuntu-devs turn now10:39
LaserJockcongrats Gloubiboulga10:40
LaserJockanybody else make core-dev?10:40
Gloubiboulgathanks Laser_away10:40
Gloubiboulgathanks LaserJock :)10:40
crimsunSarah's not present, so I don't think so.10:40
LaserJockis azeem up ATM?10:41
crimsunyes.10:41
ograLaserJock, cheer for him ;)10:42
ogra(if ou like indeed)10:43
crimsunbddebian: (the point you raise, while valid, isn't necessarily applicable to azeem)10:45
bddebianWhy not?10:46
crimsunthere's the entire issue of "predicting the future", for one.10:46
crimsun(besides, we're supposed to bolster his application, not sidetrack it.)10:46
bddebianAll I am saying is there are policys that I don't even know and I live here10:47
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crimsuntoday's TB is in a grilling mood, I see.10:54
crimsunmust be the weather10:54
Gloubiboulgayep :/10:54
LaserJockinteresting for sure10:54
LaserJockmaybe they weren't properly bribed with large amounts of alcohol10:54
bddebianYeah, glad I didn't ask for main again.. ;-P10:54
Hobbseethey were easy-ish last time.10:54
Hobbseeit's m#dz and mgj69?10:55
Toadstoolhey Hobbsee!10:56
Hobbseejhi Toadstool10:56
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Gloubiboulga1 hour to review 2 candidates... it's quite long11:03
crimsuncongrats, azeem!11:03
Toadstoolgreat! welcome, azeem :)11:03
Gloubiboulgawelcome azeem :)11:03
LaserJockwahooooo!11:03
azeemthanks :)11:03
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LaserJockoh dang, that means I will be his slave forever ;(11:03
bddebianW00t, congrats azeem11:04
siretartGloubiboulga: congrats to you as well! :)11:04
bddebianLaserJock: :-)  Now I think I lost my job though.. :'-(11:04
ToadstoolGloubiboulga: maybe that's because he's always been here ;)11:04
Gloubiboulgathanks siretart :)11:04
GloubiboulgaToadstool, yep, and really helpfull11:04
Toadstoolindeed11:04
LaserJockazeem: btw, is it late there?11:05
LaserJockmust be off to the pub already ;-)11:06
Gloubiboulgahm, I have to wake up in 5 hours, maybe it's time to go to bed :)11:10
Gloubiboulgasee you!11:10
alleeazeem: congrats too from me!11:12
tsengimbrandon: tough crowd :)11:14
imbrandonhehe yea11:15
imbrandonlook so11:15
tsengits ok, mdz likes to be sure we arent getting people who arent committed11:16
tsenglike me11:16
Hobbseetseng: ouch.  is keybuk still around and voting?11:17
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tsengHobbsee: yes11:17
Hobbseewish i could just bypass mdz :P11:17
tsengHobbsee: you had petter step up11:17
tsengHobbsee: you were passed by11:17
LaserJocktseng: was that "people who areen't committed like me"? ;-)11:17
tsengLaserJock: yes.11:17
tsengLaserJock: i suck11:17
Hobbseetseng: yeah, so i saw.  i was very asleep11:17
bddebianHobbsee: For what, I thought you were already an MOTU?  You going for main already?11:18
crimsuncongrats, imbrandon!11:18
Hobbseebddebian: yes11:18
Hobbseetseng: uh oh, i must be tired :P11:18
bddebianHobbsee: Holy crap, wow11:18
bddebianWOw, congrats imbrandon!11:19
Hobbseebddebian: you've never seen how hard it is to get anything thru main?11:19
bddebianHobbsee: Oh I have, that's part of the reason I tried to get in, but apparently I'm not good enough11:19
LaserJockimbrandon: wahoooo!11:19
tsengHobbsee: is it?11:19
imbrandonwhoo hoo11:20
tsengI think I was the first coredev approved by TB11:20
imbrandonthanks guys ( everyone ) for the kind words and cheering11:20
LaserJockheh11:20
azeemLaserJock: I was cleaning up the kitchen :)11:22
azeem23:22 here11:22
Hobbseetseng: very.  particularly on kde side, because most devs wont take it11:23
LaserJockazeem: I've got an updated gausssum ready to go for sid11:23
azeemyay11:23
LaserJockazeem: what's the best way of getting it to you?11:23
azeempoint me to a source package11:24
LaserJockk11:24
tsengHobbsee: sorry, not personal11:24
Hobbseetseng: i realise that11:25
Hobbseetseng: it's okay11:25
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tritiumFunnyLookinHat, bddebian: how the mythtv packaging coming?11:25
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LaserJockazeem: I got an email today that a bug was filed because of the new python policy but I already packaged the fix ;-)11:26
LaserJockazeem: do I need to go back and put a Closes: in the changelog?11:26
FunnyLookinHattritium, err...  I have been pulled away from it for the past week or so11:27
LaserJockwow, he got straight to the point there11:27
tritiumFunnyLookinHat: anything I can do to help?11:27
tsengLaserJock: you should see him in person11:27
azeemLaserJock: that would be preferred, but you could also close it via -done11:27
azeemif it is too much hassle11:28
bddebiantritium: I'm waiting for libie something or other to come through NEW11:28
bddebianIt's a build-dep11:28
FunnyLookinHattritium, I'm pretty much on the right track and just need to figure out some odds and ends of package.  I've gotten it to compile fine and all  : )11:28
LaserJockazeem: well, it really just takes a sec to nano the changelog and rebuild the source package11:28
tritiumFunnyLookinHat, bddebian:  okay, let me know if I can do anything.  Thanks!11:28
crimsuntritium: fixallmythtvbugskthx11:28
tritiumcrimsun: :)11:29
azeemLaserJock: then it's probably better, also if somebody is later looking at changelog11:29
LaserJocktrue11:30
LaserJockI was just annoyed because I just got everything all set11:30
LaserJockand I get a bug email about something I just fixed ;-)11:30
azeemLaserJock: well, that's extra points for ultra-fast bug fixing ;)11:31
LaserJockhehe11:31
bddebianFunnyLookinHat: Are you using Marillat's packages for mythtv?11:32
tritiumbddebian: what are you starting from?11:33
LaserJockazeem: it's the 1.0.4-1 ( new upstream) package at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/debian/11:34
bddebiantritium: My intent was to use Marillat's package but if FunnyLookinHat is working on it, I will back off11:35
tritiumbddebian: no, that would be a bad thing!11:36
bddebian?11:36
tritiumTo back off...11:37
tritiumWork together :)11:37
tsengHobbsee: dh_mkshlibs for future reference.11:37
Hobbseetseng: ah...thanks11:37
crimsunor dh_makeshlibs(1) in Edgy11:38
tsengyes, spelling counts.11:38
bddebiantritium: Oh, there is plenty of other work to do :-)11:38
LaserJockyeah, that is still a confusing one to me. I sorta get it11:38
tritiumbddebian: true11:39
crimsun(longest TB ever!)11:44
LaserJockreally?11:45
FunnyLookinHatbddebian, marillat hasn't updated in a long time and he has no plans to, at least that's what he said when i emailed him11:45
FunnyLookinHatbddebian, my goal was to incorporate version .19 into multiverse11:45
bddebian .19 is in debian-multimedia11:46
FunnyLookinHat...11:46
FunnyLookinHatit wasn't 3 weeks ago, lol11:46
bddebianLet me make sure I'm not on crack, hang on11:46
FunnyLookinHatbddebian, then I vote for integrating the one that is already built, it just makes sense and follows how it was done in the psat11:47
FunnyLookinHatOk11:47
FunnyLookinHathah11:47
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tritiumbddebian: it there.  Ive seen it11:47
bddebianYeah, 0.19-0.1011:47
FunnyLookinHatok well in that case, i vote integrate.11:48
tritiumCan we package it for ubuntu from his sources?11:48
bddebianBut it needs libieFOO that is sitting in NEW11:48
FunnyLookinHatthat's funny because I emailed Christian about a month ago and he said nothing about it...11:48
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tritiumgetting 0.19 into edgy would rock11:48
FunnyLookinHatTo package it from his sources would we just run dh_make with his source package unpacked?11:49
FunnyLookinHat(I'm still very new to the packaging techniques)11:49
crimsunbe VERY carefully when importing from marillat.11:49
bddebianhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=libie11:49
crimsunyou'll essentially need to scour the entire packaging and make sure it aligns with Ubuntu's current scheme.11:50
azeemLaserJock: eh, uploaded, btw11:50
tritiumcrimsun: what are the nasties to look out for?11:50
LaserJockazeem: oh, thanks. awesome11:50
tritiumpolicy violations?11:50
FunnyLookinHatmaybe bddebian should handle this then.  I would rather not create more confusion with the project (as I seem to be doing)11:50
crimsuntritium: anything that involves stuff Ubuntu has had to repackage, like ffmpeg11:50
bddebianFunnyLookinHat: No, not at all11:50
crimsunFunnyLookinHat: it's easier for you guys to work together, seriously11:51
tritiumcrimsun: were these repacked for legal issues?11:51
crimsunand for other reasons11:51
tritiumFunnyLookinHat: stick with it :)11:52
FunnyLookinHatheh ok, though now I am fairly lost as to what I should be doing11:53
FunnyLookinHatbddebian, if you find something you need me to do go ahead and email me (funnylookinhat@gmail.com) (i am afk on irc a lot)...  and maybe I can figure it out?11:53
bddebianWell, now crimsun has me worried :-)11:54
FunnyLookinHatwell you just have to check the debian/copyright and dependencies for marillat stuff iirc11:54
tritiumme too, bddebian ;)11:55
lucashub: around ? weren't you the one talking about more efficient ways to work inside motu ?11:56
lucasthe -meeting discussion [kubuntu devs failing to get their packages sponsored]  might interest you11:57
Hobbseelucas: heh, yeah.11:57
bddebianLater folks12:00
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KyralLooks like more work to do lol12:04
KyralFirst EasyChem and now GTKEdit12:04
KyralFunny someone noticed my ancient ITP in Debian for GTKEdit, which I never fulfilled because the response was that "Its a GTK1 App and we are trying to get away from GTK1"12:05
LaserJockanybody here think motu-reviewers LP is working well?12:06
KyralThough quite frankly, I'm half ready to orphan all my packages and leave the project12:06

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