=== bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] o/ [12:17] I see... [12:17] Thanks Riddell. :) [12:18] zsnes 1.42 is very old, from 2005 as far as I know. Now, the version that comes with edgy doesn't work, it crashes on startup. [12:18] I've reported the issue here; https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/54199 [12:18] Malone bug 54199 in zsnes "zsnes segfault on startup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [12:19] And since then, i've checked out their repository and build zsnes from source, which is very recent. Not quite sure why they don't release a new version, but the svn build works fine on edgy. [12:21] omeow: What's the latest upstream version? [12:21] shawarma: zsnes is most recently your merge. omeow has LP #54199. Any plans? === omeow curses at launchpad.. [12:21] hang on [12:21] *uses google instead of launchpad search* [12:21] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/1.420-1ubuntu1 [12:22] Aye, and as I said there is a new merge for that -2 from Debian. I mean what is the new upstream, upstream version? [12:23] 1.42 is the latest. [12:23] Yes, but for some reason they don't release versions often enough. [12:23] It only very recently entered debian etch, so the debian maintainer may have plans. [12:24] s/entered/migrated to/ === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] omeow: zsnes -2 builds fine from Debian but I don't know if it fixes your segfault [12:39] Must I make use of pbuilder to test if the build works? [12:41] no, but you have to install the deb to test. [12:42] Ok, very well. Send me the deb and I'll test it. [12:44] I'll post it, give me a sec [12:44] ok [12:46] http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/zsnes/ [12:47] hehe, let me just finish this game of King of Dragon. :) === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-144-137-231-113.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kmilo [n=kmilo@pcsp164-34.supercabletv.net.co] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] Ok, bddebian, just finished the game. :) [01:23] I'll try the package now. [01:24] in my .install file can i just put, say, "foo.service" and have that package claim ownership of foo.service where ever it might be located? [01:27] bddebian, the program still crashes. [01:34] omeow: strace and/or gdb bt, please. [01:35] What for? It's the same error as I attached to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/54199 [01:35] Malone bug 54199 in zsnes "zsnes segfault on startup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [01:36] crimsun, in the mean time, i've succesfully built the latest svn version. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] omeow: it'd be best to coordinate w/ debian to have a new snapshot, then. [01:39] I don't know how to do that. === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] omeow: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting [01:41] omeow: link to the Ubuntu bug report and the Gentoo bug report [01:42] omeow: then suggest that the maintainer consider a snapshot [01:42] That easy? :) Ok then. === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq_ [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] Adios === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:43] We really do have some whacky packages in the archive :) === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] lol [02:51] yea [02:58] Does any MOTU think that big #53434 could be a dapper-updates candidate? Mind you, it has receved its first update in Debian earlier this year. No changes have been made to it since 2003. [02:59] bug #53434 [02:59] Malone bug 53434 in gradio "gradio binary is installed into /usr/X11R6/bin" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53434 [02:59] I stated it was fixed in edgy, but am just wondering about it. [03:00] honestly, no, it's not an -updates candidate. [03:01] Didn't think so. [03:02] although it involves a fairly trivial fix (one line, two at most), it does not actually fix a usability bug. [03:02] Yeah I know. [03:02] Just wanted a second opinion. [03:02] Thanks crimsun. [03:02] np. === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [03:10] bddebian: hm? === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_away is now known as bmonty [04:14] bmonty! [04:14] hi LaserJock [04:15] LaserJock!! [04:15] Hi bmonty [04:16] hola bddebian [04:16] Como esta usted? [04:17] hehe, now don't make me use babelfish [04:17] Heh [04:17] muy bien [04:17] my spanish is terrible for somebody who lives in Nevada [04:17] the only thing I can say is I was raised in Montana [04:17] heh [04:17] I know how to say some things that will quickly start a fight :) [04:18] and even then, my wife (also born and raised in MT) minored in Spanish in college so she nows more than me [04:18] Donde esta el bano [04:18] LaserJock: my wife minored in spanish....I order the beer, she does everything else [04:18] hehe [04:18] lol [04:18] heh [04:20] anytime I'm in a fast food place here I try to pick up stuff, so far they just talk to fast for me [04:21] or I can read the sample ballots I just got in the mail ;-) [04:21] LaserJock: checkout http://radio.weblogs.com/0142338/ [04:22] podcast quote "A series of podcasts aimed at helping you in your efforts to learn Spanish using unconventional techniques I developed during the seven years I spent in Spain teaching English and learning Spanish. " === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] imbrandon: hmm, I need to find a German version of that [04:24] ;) === imbrandon loves podcasts [04:25] anybody on jabber.org right now? [04:25] LaserJock: I am [04:26] bmonty: and you can connect? for some reason I haven't been able to for the last hour or so [04:26] i am also [04:26] gaim says that I am currently connected [04:26] hrm i just just dissconnected and reconnected and no probs [04:26] ...and another merge bites the dust [04:28] LaserJock: what is your screen name I'll send a test message to you [04:28] :-) [04:28] bmonty: i bet its on LP ;) [04:29] bmonty: laserjock@ [04:29] I just connected by turning of the SSL [04:30] heh LaserJock you type "laserjock" in the wiki search and you get redirected to EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock [04:30] haha [04:31] heh i was expecting /JordanMathis (sp? ) hehehe [04:31] Mantha [04:31] thats why i made a page /imbrandon and /BrandonHoltsclaw the latter redirects to the former ;) [04:31] ah, smart [04:31] imbrandon: good idea [04:32] ahh right, heheh was doing it from memory and my memory sucks ;) [04:32] WRT real name esp [04:32] heh [04:34] imbrandon: yes, well, in hindsight I think I might have choosen a better IRC nick [04:34] leaste i was close though ;) hehe [04:34] heh [04:35] heh yea i was "Eagle" on irc for many years ( 95/96ish to 2002 ) then i discovered that was hard to search for in google [04:35] wow you're old [04:36] but if you want to lookup the old stuff i did with mono development or UOX3 or RunUO and a few other projects back then , you have to look for "Eagle" on the mono dev mailing lists etc LOL [04:36] tseng: old? umm i'm only 27 heh [04:36] Shut up tseng ;-) [04:36] hah. [04:36] I assume we arent thinking of the same mono [04:37] the one with the squeaky mexican accent [04:37] mono as in the GNU .net stuff ;) [04:37] hm, cool [04:37] I had no idea [04:37] imbrandon: wow, I didn't know they had IRC back then [04:37] tseng: Is your buddy over in -devel a core-dev, MOTU or anything else? [04:37] bddebian: what? [04:38] You shut up too LaserJock :-) [04:38] tseng: bluefoxicy [04:38] dude [04:38] LaserJock: hahaha yea IRC has been arround for a LONG time [04:38] that guy is a nobody [04:38] I know so why doesn't someone shut his ass up? [04:38] if it wasnt for CoC and the whole CC/TB watching i would have beat him silly a long time ago [04:38] I mean... [04:39] given him a thumbs up [04:39] hehe [04:39] And you thought (think?) I talk too much.. Sheesh :-) [04:39] heh i'm waiting for someone to boot him on the grounds of the CoC , he is quite demeaning to women in IRC and many other things [04:39] well, no one is dumb enough to put me in the access list [04:40] heh [04:40] or he'd be gone [04:40] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1459.txt?number=1459, published in 1993 [04:40] heh -devel is about the only place i dont have access list to ;) [04:40] I first got on 99 or 2000 [04:40] OPN [04:40] was the place to be [04:40] 93? Hell I was already 23 by then.. :'-( === bmonty gets bddebian a walker [04:41] yea i was an IRCop on stratics irc network back then ( 95/96ish ) [04:41] hahaha === bddebian thwaps bmonty with his cane [04:41] hrm in 93 i was a freshman in HS ;) [04:41] lamont looked at the DOB on my passport on our way back to the US [04:41] mumbled something about a bunch of kids [04:42] lol [04:42] bddebian: I think geratrics can still be tried for assualt and battery [04:43] s/geratrics/geriatrics [04:43] bout the only thing i got left from those days is my low ICQ number and "eagle" username on sf.net becouse i'm too lazy to get a new one [04:44] bmonty: Yeah but we get minimum security.. :-) [04:44] I remember getting yelled at by the sys admin at my school because the IRC client I was using took up too much processor time [04:44] lol [04:44] ..or maybe that was a MUD client....hmmm, something like that [04:45] funny enough my wife ( not at the time ) gave me that name "Eagle" , LaserJock you know shes native right, and "Eagle" is short for "Walking Eagle, too full of sh*t to fly" [04:45] lol [04:45] ;P [04:45] bddebian: I don't think you can collect social security in prison [04:46] hahaha [04:46] Doh :-( [04:46] don't worry, he isn't getting any anyway [04:46] imbrandon: That's funny (Eagle) [04:46] LaserJock: Haha, good point === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] LaserJock: neither are we [04:46] I gave up on that a long time ago [04:46] and I'm only 24 [04:46] smart man [04:47] its just another tax as far as I'm concerned [04:47] yea even if we did get SS it would be like 5$ a month [04:47] ;) [04:47] imbrandon: or the equivalent in the future...for bddebian, it might be worth a little more [04:47] hehe [04:50] that's why I'm throwing all my chips in for getting the Nobel in Chemistry [04:50] ;-) [04:51] Bunch o' freakin' whippersnappers [04:51] heh [04:52] ahh finaly found an old refrence to "Eagle" heh 2002 http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/mono-list/2002-June/006186.html [04:52] that was about the time i was ditching it becouse it was hard to google for [04:53] its sad when the things you do online are goverened by if they are easy to grep^Wgoogle for [04:53] lol === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] heh [04:55] hmm, there are a lot of laserjocks out there [04:56] hehe [04:57] I guess that is a good thing === nixternal__ is now known as nixternal [04:59] night everyone [04:59] gnight bmonty === bmonty is now known as bmonty_away [05:00] imbrandon: so why arent you fixing mono bugs in ubuntu ? :) [05:01] Yeah [05:01] Gnight bmonty_away [05:04] tseng: tbh just lazyness hehe i'll probably get back to it someday [05:04] imbrandon: ok. === bddebian wishes he was lazy instead of just stupid [05:05] bddebian: shush ;) [05:05] bddebian: I think I must be both [05:05] LaserJock: Oh BS [05:05] I am all three [05:05] You are Mr. Laser guy [05:05] tseng: 3? [05:05] heheh [05:06] is that kinda like personal one "i'm tired" person two " me too " and person three ( blonde ) " me 3 " ? [05:06] heh [05:06] kinda [05:06] but my battery light is flashing [05:06] thats a sign to go to bed [05:06] ahh [05:07] Ack [05:07] bye. [05:07] Gnight tseng [05:07] gngiht man [05:07] gnight* === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] cya tseng [05:08] hrm anyone semi familiar with wget [05:09] Somewhat [05:09] so i can be lazy and not read the man LOL [05:09] wget [05:09] what woudl be the command line options to download the irc logs all in one shot from fabianone [05:09] wget *.html only grabs the index heh [05:10] yeah, html is tough that way [05:10] or another easy^simple way [05:10] with ftp you can do the * stuff [05:10] yea i noticed [05:10] but i dont think there is an ftp interface to the logs [05:10] hrm i wounder if rsync would work === imbrandon just wants to be able to grep / search them easy [05:11] Yeah, wget doesn't handle regexp / multiple files very well :-( [05:12] ;( [05:12] ok one last stupid question i should already know and/or ask in #ubuntu but you guys rock lol is .... [05:13] how can i tell from a script if a process is running [05:13] so i dont start it twice via cron [05:13] test -x /blah works with files only right ? [05:14] i guess the "wrong" way would be to have the script create a file and then when done delete the file , and when its run test for the file and ext if the file exists [05:14] but there should be a simpler way [05:14] s/ext/exit === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [05:17] imbrandon: Maybe pidof will do what you want? [05:18] pidof? hrm ok i'll google that [05:18] man pidof [05:18] or man ;) [05:20] ahhh yea looks like exactly what i want , thanks TheMuso [05:20] welcome [06:03] Gnight folks === redguy [n=mati@aco222.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi_ [n=Bastian@p508039EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] hi all [06:23] i can't triage bugs i own? [06:23] Amaranth: not unless you're part of -qa [06:24] Amaranth: what did you want changed where? [06:24] it's not important === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] just want to set the severity of an alacarte but to whatever one above wishlist is [06:25] Amaranth: bug #? [06:25] bug 54748 [06:25] Malone bug 54748 in alacarte "Browse dialog doesn't escape spaces in command path" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54748 [06:25] Amaranth: if you've been triaging bugs for a while, you're welcome to apply to join the ubuntu-qa team [06:26] heh [06:26] i don't have time [06:26] Amaranth: well, no, that's what they say [06:26] i just want to let him know that i won't be able to get to this for a bit because it's not a huge thing [06:26] Amaranth: what do you want it as? wishlist? [06:26] Amaranth: or low? [06:26] low [06:26] Amaranth: done :) [06:27] thanks [06:27] it's kind of broken that i can't change all aspect of a bug i own [06:27] Amaranth: It was actually changed like that for a reason. [06:27] Amaranth: was to stop people assigning $mypetbugaboutscreensaversorsomething as high priority [06:28] Random people can take ownership of a bug and max it out? [06:29] Amaranth: anyone can take ownership of a bug. they just cant change the priority [06:29] I meant before that change. ) [06:29] err, :) [06:30] Amaranth: ah === lukaswayne9 is now known as lukaswayne9_zzz === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-000-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] crimsun: ping [07:36] imbrandon: pong === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] crimsun: about the upstream version of apt-mirror , i'm getting my patches togather for it right now to upload to ubuntu i know the policy is -0ubuntu2 but fixing the upstream version if there is no upstreeam can i bump it to 4.5 ? [07:39] and make it a native package ? [07:39] or ummm you know what i'm getting at [07:39] imbrandon: I'd keep the current nomenclature until you hear back from the original maintainer [07:40] ok [07:40] err i guess -2ubuntu2 heh [07:40] in this case but yea [07:57] Ahh crap, just got back from being gone for the past three days and I missed a ping in here along the way, haha === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [i=Fujitsu@gateway/tor/x-7f1028ca8d101e07] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pazzo [n=thomas@dialin-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1B85.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] good morning [08:32] morning daniel [08:32] hey Andrew [08:33] moins guys [08:36] we need to clean up a few bugs assigned to motureviewers === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] that sounds like a very good plan === ajmitch has cleaned up a couple [08:37] found a few that don't apply to edgy now [08:38] ah, someone made libcm packages [08:39] a shame I hadn't uploaded mine before they went to the effort === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] didn't we have libcm packages in dapper too? [08:40] yes [08:40] old & out of date [08:40] ah ok [08:40] can't build metacity with them [08:41] maybe you can talk to rodarvus about it? [08:41] the packages this person supplied would have needed fixing anyway [08:41] sure I can, but it's a lib on GNOME CVS [08:41] ah, I didn't know [08:41] metacity is the only user I know of [08:43] bugs like 6004, I'd leave to slomo_ [08:47] well, 28 open bugs for motureviewers [08:47] I'm sure a few of them are still valid :) [08:51] good morning [08:51] morning Toadstool [08:52] hi ajmitch [08:52] hi Toadstool [08:52] hey Hobbsee === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] hi viviersf [08:54] loa ajmitch [08:54] how u [08:55] alright [08:55] kewl [08:59] lp going down for maintenance soon, perfect time for me to go & get some dinner === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bjp [n=bart@82-170-236-40-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik is now known as carthik_zzz === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ is now known as azeem === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-084-199.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@213-156-52-99.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.108.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.108.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yosch [n=yosch@lns-bzn-30-82-253-162-174.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] lo [12:01] can somebody tell me what is obviously silly about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19374 ? [12:03] pmjdebruijn: missing #!/bin/sh [12:09] ajmitch, huh? the debhelper generated ones, don't have that either? [12:09] so I assumed that wasn't nessecary, anyway I'll try === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] hello everyone === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ is now known as azeem === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ is now known as doko === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon notes that he has applied for MOTU for todays TB if anyone wishes to comment on his wiki and/or come cheer ;) === jinty [n=jinty@213-156-52-99.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntu-es [n=ubuntu@200.106.97.80] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] imbrandon: i should be there, as i'm going for core. [01:51] Hobbsee, yay \o/ [01:52] Gloubiboulga: :) [01:52] Gloubiboulga: want to cheer for me [01:52] ? [01:52] Hobbsee: ;P [01:52] ah, you did decide to go for it already [01:52] Hobbsee, sure, if you cheer for me too ;) [01:53] ajmitch: quite possibly, yes. [01:53] Gloubiboulga: hehe [01:53] there's no 'possibly' about it, if you've hit the join team link, as I see you have [01:54] ajmitch: :P [01:54] ajmitch: well, i say possibly, so you cant outright disapprove [01:54] heh === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] you think I disapprove? [01:55] ajmitch: i know you did with MOTU [01:56] no, I didn't [01:56] me too [01:56] no more aussies [01:56] with your funny time zones [01:56] tseng: hehe. it's not my fault that you're living in the past === azeem_ is now known as azee === azee is now known as azeem === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] ajmitch, thanks, the preinst and postrm scripts now work! === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon is now known as imbrandon_zZz === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p508039EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === frandavid100 [n=david@84-123-96-251.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] hiya! [03:28] I'm reading through the packaging guide [03:29] trying to create a changelog, but I'm rather clueless [03:29] could someone give me a hand? [03:29] frandavid100: to create a changelog, or edit it? [03:29] frandavid100: are you using dh_make? [03:31] don't even know what it is... I'm just creating the changelog from scratch [03:31] I'm following this http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html [03:32] there's a template for the changelog: [03:32] package (version) distribution; urgency=urgency * change details more change details * even more change details -- maintainer name [two spaces] date [03:32] guess package (version) would be tsaver 0.4 [03:33] edgy urgency=low [03:33] can't say any change details because the package is not in the repos [03:34] the best would be to have a look at a _real_ changelog file. get a package source from the archives with apt-get source [03:35] I'm having a look at hello's === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] the program's name is timesaver [03:36] but the package's is tsaver [03:36] which one should I use? tsaver? [03:36] i think yes [03:37] right [03:39] So it looks like this [03:39] tsaver (0.4) unstable; urgency=low [03:39] -- David Prieto Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:38:51 +0200 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] frandavid100: s/unstable/edgy/ [03:41] and you have to have some bullet points in there [03:41] even if it's just "* Initial package." or something [03:41] those are for the changelog right? [03:42] 'K [03:42] hi Barry [03:42] I'm with the control file now [03:42] Hey azeem [03:42] Heya gang [03:43] how can I know what section this particular program is in? [03:43] or the priority for that matter [03:43] frandavid100, priority is always low. [03:44] aha [03:44] indeed, we don't use that part [03:44] i think that's only used in debian to hurry something from unstable to testing [03:45] Amaranth, and if we did, it's only changed on security/rc bugs [03:45] so I can leave it like this? [03:45] Source: tsaver [03:45] Section: devel [03:45] frandavid100, section is easy. what section are similar apps ? [03:45] Priority: low [03:46] no idea... don't know what sections are there [03:46] office maybe? === Yagisan rereads scrollback [03:47] frandavid100, in the *control* file use priority optional or priority extra [03:47] right [03:48] frandavid100, and in the changelog urgency is always low [03:48] Maintainer: David Prieto [03:48] Standards-Version: 0.4 [03:48] Package: tsaver [03:48] Architecture: any (?) [03:48] frandavid100, perhaps a pastebin would help ? [03:49] sorry... I don't know what a pastebin is :S [03:49] I'm a total noob you see [03:50] anyway... Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} [03:50] and... Description: (I took the one from Gnomefiles) [03:51] would this be a compliant control file? === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] frandavid100, this is a pastebin http://rafb.net/paste/ [03:52] just noticed the standards version was wrong... corrected it [03:53] oh... that ay I can paste the text there you mean... didn't know it even existed [03:54] thanks for pointing me to it [03:54] np [03:54] so, here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/ViOcSd47.html [03:54] is that valid? [03:56] and... any way to find out what the architecture is? [03:58] any means it'll work on any of the archs ubuntu builds on, all means it doesn't need a recompile for different arches (python programs, shell scripts, doc files, etc) [03:59] well any way to know where it will work? [04:00] put it as any and hope for the best [04:01] right [04:01] I'm on the copyright part [04:01] there aren't too many packages that aren't any unless they're binary blobs [04:01] do you guys really use this part? [04:01] you mean the copyright file? it's important [04:02] where do you get the info to fill Copyright (C) {Year(s)} by {Author(s)} {Email address(es)} [04:02] ? [04:02] frandavid100, from the source [04:03] should there be a copyright file in the source? [04:04] I got one called authors [04:04] contains the author's name and address [04:04] nothing about copyright [04:06] there must be a debian/copyright, yes [04:06] eh [04:06] frandavid100: check the source files then for copyright boilerplate [04:06] usually the AUTHORS also hold the copyright [04:07] yep [04:09] http://rafb.net/paste/results/o3UaHT99.html [04:09] is this correct, or maybe should I take out the part starting with "preamble"? [04:10] you don't need to duplicate the full GPL in debian/copyright, point to common-licenses [04:11] how would it look it like, then? [04:11] just see any other GPL'd package [04:11] aham [04:14] nex item... do you create the rules file manually? [04:14] there's a lot of stuff I don't know there [04:15] dh-make creates a templates/skeleton [04:15] or you could adopt another packages' rules file [04:15] that's cool [04:15] don't run dh-make now, or it will overwrite your other files [04:16] I think I'll take the dh-make method... as long as it's explained later on the guide! [04:16] like debian/copyright [04:16] hm [04:16] could just move them somewhere else [04:16] well, make a backup of your debian/ tree === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal [04:18] dh-make doesn't seem to be a valid command tho... and I'd swear I have it installed [04:19] yep I do [04:19] dh_make [04:19] what's the right command then? [04:19] oh [04:19] right === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq_ is now known as uniq [04:31] it's much easier with dh-make :) === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] I tried to build it... but got an error :8 [04:36] :( [04:36] http://rafb.net/paste/results/JkyArx68.html [04:37] frandavid100: could you also paste the appropriate file? (debian/control) [04:38] sure [04:38] http://rafb.net/paste/results/LQq1nO27.html [04:38] here you are === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === x-spec-t is now known as Spec [04:40] frandavid100: all lines in the long description should begin with a space === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal [04:44] like this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/FLring45.html [04:45] but I keep getting the same error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/BWeiUN19.html === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] delete line 12 and insert in line 19 and 25 a "." [04:49] you can't have emtpy lines [04:50] right I think it worked now :D [04:50] so... no empty lines, space to begin each, . at the start of a paragraph === heno [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] http://rafb.net/paste/results/KLMdJZ87.html [04:52] but I'm still getting the error part [04:55] I've I understand it correctly (it's spanish?) it complains it couldn't find the target clean in the Makefile [04:57] yes it's spanish... the exact translation would be "there's no rule to build the `clean' target. Stop. === \sh is now known as \sh_away === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.181.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Prezu [n=kvirc@eu165.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away is now known as freeflying [05:15] Holy crap, how did my karma get to ~400,000???? [05:15] bddebian, don't ask, just take it and be like " I AM YOUR UBUNTU MASTER " [05:16] Bug Management 398463 === FunnyLookinHat is now known as FunnyHat_Away [05:16] you filed several bugs a day [05:16] apperantly [05:16] 32674 [05:16] my points are way up as well [05:16] Oh, the sync requests, how lame :-) [05:17] but I rarely go in and clean up bugs [05:17] so not that high :) [05:17] I should clean up beagle bugs [05:17] most of them are so bad [05:17] I wish people could judge what bugs belong upstream [05:18] Aye === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@d83-177-225-159.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] Where should python service 'foobar' be placed in the filesystem via .deb? not /usr/local ? [05:47] nothing should be places under /usr/local in a .deb [05:47] s/places/placed/ [05:47] so where should it be placed? [05:47] it's a little webserver [05:48] where under /usr/local would it have been placed? [05:48] Spec: /usr/sbin maybe [05:48] well, it relies on stuff that's in the folder it sits in [05:48] if it's a simple script [05:48] nope, not just a simple script :-/ [05:48] Spec: that doesn't sound right [05:48] then it should be rewritten :) [05:49] i didn't write it :p [05:49] so don't package it :) [05:49] someone else asked me to package it as a favour [05:50] maybe i'll package it into /usr/local and violate debian policy ^.^ [05:51] as long as you don't plan to upload it anywhere, that'sfine [05:51] well, my own apt server. === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec is now known as x-spec-t === azeem_ is now known as azeem [06:11] dholbach: I need an advocate for hugin 0.6 that is on REVU, so that I can upload it to edgy now that the licensing has bee fixed. [06:13] hub: hm, does nobody else have a bit of time? :( [06:13] ah well whoever else [06:13] the package had alreayd been approved [06:14] but the upload got rejected due to licensing issues [06:14] said licensing has been addressed upstream [06:17] dholbach: or shall I raise the topic about more efficient reviewing on the motu mailing list? [06:18] Yes, I think that's a good idea. [06:18] In the end it's all about people doing it, but if we can simplify things (maybe technically), we probably should. [06:19] like the motu tools, I still don't see a reference anywhere [06:19] lot of things can be automated [06:20] maybe, yes === carthik_zzz is now known as carthik === ^ohoel [n=beshy@85.89.201.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.181.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] is there a page listing stuff that a newcomer to ubuntu development should/could do ? === aa_ [n=ali@pida.vm.bytemark.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] hello [06:54] what should I do about: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pida/+bug/42882 before the same thing happens with edgy? [06:54] Malone bug 42882 in pida "PIDA version in dapper is very old" [Medium,Confirmed] [06:54] aa_: become an ubuntu dev and fix it yourself ;p [06:54] lucas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources ? [06:55] lucas: well, I wrote the application [06:55] lucas: also debian has a newer application [06:55] isn't there some magical thing involved? [06:56] If Debian's is newer it will come over in Edgy [06:56] promise? [06:56] I promise nothing :-) [06:56] hehehe [06:56] bddebian: it has to be merged i think [06:57] can someone please merge it? [06:57] Ah yes, it's on the Merges list, I'll check it out [06:57] it is really bad for my applicaiton [06:57] If dholbach doesn't mind [06:57] and I keep getting the same bug reports [06:57] bddebian: wow thanks [06:57] aa_, i'm a fan of pida, so let me make that promise ... it will be updated in edgy ;) [06:57] ogra: wow, thanks! [06:57] bddebian: why me? [06:57] ah, bddebian cares already :) [06:58] dholbach: You uploaded last :-) [06:58] well, then thank-you for your assurances, and have a nice day :) [06:58] bddebian: pffft - go ahead :-))) === aa_ [n=ali@pida.vm.bytemark.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:58] OK [06:58] aa_, if thats done you could ask for a backport to dapper ;) just file a bug then and assign it to the backports team [07:00] pbuilding now === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] Doh, bashisms in Debian/rules... :-) [07:02] heh [07:02] fix them :) [07:02] rm debian/pida/usr/share/pida/{AUTHORS,CONTRIBUTORS,COPYING} === lucas wondering if it wouldn't be faster to rewrite a shell, faster than bash, but allowing those bashisms [07:05] Well you can always do !bin/bash :-) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-000-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] OK, pida uploaded [07:16] :) [07:19] Any other requests, your highnesses? ;-) === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] Heya Laser [07:37] Err LaserJock [07:37] sorry [07:37] For what? [07:37] half of me is away (still in bed_ [07:37] Hehe === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pazzo [n=thomas@dialin-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] holy moly, bzr's website got quite the face-lift [07:54] holy cow, yes === x-spec-t is now known as Spec === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra_ [n=zdra@87.65.103.151] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] hi Zdra_ [08:27] :) [08:28] ok, so how are you building the source package and .deb? [08:28] I just run "debuild" === frandavid100 [n=david@84-123-96-251.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:29] ok, you probably want to build it in 2 different steps, 1) build the source package with debuild -S and 2) build the .deb using pbuilder (or something similar) [08:29] hi again [08:29] what happens is if you just run debuild it uses your source directory to build the .deb and so it gets messed up with files from the build [08:29] hi frandavid100 [08:30] how do i include *.png files in the .deb.. when i did a pbuilder it packaged without the image files :( === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] LaserJock: ok I'll try that way and I think google can teach me enough to understand how it works :) [08:31] Zdra_: I think we can do a bit better than google [08:31] :-) [08:32] !packgingguide [08:32] I know nothing about packgingguide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu [08:32] cypher1: Adding binary files to a package is difficult to impossible. You are better off either using something like an xpm format or uuencoding the binary and then uudecoding it on build [08:32] dang it [08:32] LaserJock: mopac7 looks like a sync. Did you want/need anything with that before I ask for a sync? [08:33] !packaging [08:33] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [08:33] Zdra_: ^^ [08:33] bddebian: nah, if it's a sync then sync it? it wasn't on my list? [08:33] LaserJock: thanks :) [08:33] bddebian, sorry it is a .kbm file [08:34] bddebian, also i did not understand you completely [08:35] cypher1: the problem is that the .diff.gz doesn't handle binary files === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] so you can include a source (like svg) or a non-binary image (like an .xpm) [08:36] or you can use uuencode and uudecode to turn the binary into ASCII === allo [i=foobar@p5088D323.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] and back [08:36] hello! [08:36] hello! [08:37] can someone please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/110484? [08:37] Zdra_: if you have any problems with the Packaging Guide let me know. [08:37] It's what I get when I try to sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc --with-wx-config [08:38] are you build deping on wx? [08:38] hmm, doesn't look like it [08:38] does someone want to have a look at the klik package? it now works fine for me. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2823 [08:38] LaserJock: Ah, OK === quidam- [n=quidam-@150.185.182.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] bddebian: ah ok, what? [08:38] LaserJock: ok, I don't need advanced things, just compile a package to easily test my patches :) [08:40] LaserJock: Ah, OK, I'll request a sync :-) [08:40] bbiam [08:41] Zdra_: ok, check out the pbuilder section (https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/gs-pbuilder.html) [08:41] btw: why does loopmounting not work in the edgy livecd? so i cannot test the package on the livecd :-( [08:41] Zdra_: once you have a pbuilder set up, you use it to build the .deb [08:42] frandavid100, you need to build depend on wxwidget [08:42] how could I do that? [08:43] Zdra_: so 1) make changes 2) rebuild source package with debuild -S -us -uc 3) build .deb with sudo pbuilder build .dsc [08:43] Zdra_: does that make sense? [08:43] (adding libwxgtk2.6-dev) [08:43] I have to install that on my system? [08:43] no [08:43] frandavid100, in debian/control, you need to add 'libwxgtk2.6-dev' to the Build-Depends: line [08:44] oh right [08:44] silly me :S [08:44] thanks crimsun :) [08:44] (np) [08:44] LaserJock, sorry how do i add to source ? is it by editing debian/control file ? [08:45] LaserJock: I'm testing ... [08:45] cypher1: what do you want to add? [08:45] i have a file with extension .kbm [08:46] LaserJock, i want some files like that also to be included in the .deb.. which is not happening now [08:46] I did it... Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), autotools-dev, libwxgtk2.6-dev [08:46] but I keep getting the same error http://pastebin.ca/110500 [08:47] frandavid100: did you rebuild the source package? [08:47] d'oh [08:47] no I didn't [08:48] cypher1: well, I've never heard of that format in particular [08:49] cypher1: but look at the man page for uuencode (and uudecode) which is in the sharutils package [08:49] LaserJock, sorry for not being clear, i was building a game which uses files with those extensions.. which i guess contains some image data [08:50] cypher1: how many? [08:50] why do you need to put that in the packageing? [08:50] LaserJock, i guess more than 5-6 [08:50] LaserJock, the binary reads those files during startup [08:51] but they aren't in the source? [08:51] the original tarball [08:51] LaserJock, yes it is there === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] ok, then you confused me [08:52] LaserJock, sorry [08:52] you have images in the .orig.tar.gz that aren't getting installed? [08:52] LaserJock, that are getting in the .deb [08:52] sorry that are not getting in the .deb [08:52] re [08:52] cypher1: ok, thats totally different than what I was thinking, lol [08:53] :) [08:53] does the package have a debian/install file? [08:54] LaserJock, no [08:54] or .install? [08:55] i had just did a debuid -S for creating the debian directory but install or packaganame.install file is not there [08:55] LaserJock: I rebuilt the source but I still get the same: [08:55] http://pastebin.ca/110506 can you take a look? [08:56] cypher1: then use dh_install (read the man page for more info) in debian/rules if the package uses debhelper === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] LaserJock, thanks let me read and try it === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] hey everybody [09:05] hi Toadstool [09:05] Heya Toadstool, Gloubiboulga [09:05] hi Gloubiboulga, bddebian [09:05] Gloubiboulga: ready? :) [09:05] hi bddebian [09:05] Toadstool, yep :) [09:07] tritium: hehe [09:07] heh [09:07] HOw are you, LaserJock ? [09:07] fine === frandavid100 [n=david@84-123-96-251.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === allo [i=foobar@p5088D323.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["] [09:16] will it be a good idea if we plan for a lecture in packaging ? [09:17] i think that will be useful for someone like me who is very new to packaging [09:17] There was one like a week ago. [09:17] oops missed it [09:18] where can i find the text of it ? [09:18] i meant the URL [09:18] you can also check the Packaging Guide. [09:19] crimsun, yes but IMHO there are several things assumed there [09:19] like i am just learning curve of what control, rules file is [09:19] cypher1: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School [09:20] when is the next one? [09:20] I don't know if one has been planned [09:20] I would like to see one every week, but that might be a bit much [09:22] LaserJock, thanks :) but wont the lectures be captured somewhere ? [09:22] yeah, you click on the link [09:22] LaserJock, sorry ignore it.. just noticed [09:23] I'll also try to incorporate what I can into the Packaging Guide [09:23] i am feeling effects of getting tired sorry [09:28] argg, a broken package was uploaded to -updates [09:29] nice... [09:30] it didn't take too long to get a bug report about it either ;-) [09:30] who can upload to -updates? only core-dev? or can a MOTU upload a Universe package? [09:31] hmm, I think we can and it's processed manually... but you'dbetter ask on -devel :) [09:32] well, I wonder if I should let the person who broke it, fix it [09:32] which package by the way? [09:33] matplotlib [09:33] yep, found the bug report ;) [09:34] I noticed it yesterday on my machine at home [09:34] the problem is he didn't adjust the deps on the other matplotlib binaries from ubuntu1 to ubuntu2 [09:36] er, yeah :/ [09:36] -updates is open to ubuntu-dev but requires kamion/mdz approval; processing is manual [09:37] ok, good to know === mitsuhiko [n=blackb1r@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B0137.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === Pazzo [n=thomas@host130-250-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-82-134.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_zZz is now known as imbrandon [10:25] poor Gloubiboulga got caught in the crossfire :) [10:25] indeed :) [10:25] yeah :) [10:28] so quiet on #u-meeting... scarry [10:29] mdz must be preparing something really nasty : [10:29] :p === Toadstool runs [10:30] yeah, run, run ;) [10:30] congrats, Gloubiboulga! [10:31] thanks :D [10:31] On? [10:31] Did I miss a freakin' meeting again? [10:31] (core-dev) [10:31] Oh sweet, congrats Gloubiboulga [10:31] thanks bddebian :) === Toadstool hugs Gloubiboulga === Gloubiboulga hugs Toadstool [10:38] ack, is it over? === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:215:ff:fe19:4646] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] nop, ubuntu-devs turn now [10:40] congrats Gloubiboulga [10:40] anybody else make core-dev? [10:40] thanks Laser_away [10:40] thanks LaserJock :) [10:40] Sarah's not present, so I don't think so. [10:41] is azeem up ATM? [10:41] yes. [10:42] LaserJock, cheer for him ;) [10:43] (if ou like indeed) [10:45] bddebian: (the point you raise, while valid, isn't necessarily applicable to azeem) [10:46] Why not? [10:46] there's the entire issue of "predicting the future", for one. [10:46] (besides, we're supposed to bolster his application, not sidetrack it.) [10:47] All I am saying is there are policys that I don't even know and I live here === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] today's TB is in a grilling mood, I see. [10:54] must be the weather [10:54] yep :/ [10:54] interesting for sure [10:54] maybe they weren't properly bribed with large amounts of alcohol [10:54] Yeah, glad I didn't ask for main again.. ;-P [10:54] they were easy-ish last time. [10:55] it's m#dz and mgj69? [10:56] hey Hobbsee! [10:56] jhi Toadstool === jrib [n=jasonr@AC800237.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec is now known as x-spec-t [11:03] 1 hour to review 2 candidates... it's quite long [11:03] congrats, azeem! [11:03] great! welcome, azeem :) [11:03] welcome azeem :) [11:03] wahooooo! [11:03] thanks :) === Gloubiboulga always thought that azeem was already a MOTU [11:03] oh dang, that means I will be his slave forever ;( [11:04] W00t, congrats azeem [11:04] Gloubiboulga: congrats to you as well! :) [11:04] LaserJock: :-) Now I think I lost my job though.. :'-( [11:04] Gloubiboulga: maybe that's because he's always been here ;) [11:04] thanks siretart :) [11:04] Toadstool, yep, and really helpfull [11:04] indeed [11:05] azeem: btw, is it late there? [11:06] must be off to the pub already ;-) [11:10] hm, I have to wake up in 5 hours, maybe it's time to go to bed :) [11:10] see you! [11:12] azeem: congrats too from me! [11:14] imbrandon: tough crowd :) [11:15] hehe yea [11:15] look so [11:16] its ok, mdz likes to be sure we arent getting people who arent committed [11:16] like me [11:17] tseng: ouch. is keybuk still around and voting? === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] Hobbsee: yes [11:17] wish i could just bypass mdz :P [11:17] Hobbsee: you had petter step up [11:17] Hobbsee: you were passed by [11:17] tseng: was that "people who areen't committed like me"? ;-) [11:17] LaserJock: yes. [11:17] LaserJock: i suck [11:17] tseng: yeah, so i saw. i was very asleep [11:18] Hobbsee: For what, I thought you were already an MOTU? You going for main already? [11:18] congrats, imbrandon! [11:18] bddebian: yes [11:18] tseng: uh oh, i must be tired :P [11:18] Hobbsee: Holy crap, wow [11:19] WOw, congrats imbrandon! [11:19] bddebian: you've never seen how hard it is to get anything thru main? [11:19] Hobbsee: Oh I have, that's part of the reason I tried to get in, but apparently I'm not good enough [11:19] imbrandon: wahoooo! [11:19] Hobbsee: is it? [11:20] whoo hoo [11:20] I think I was the first coredev approved by TB [11:20] thanks guys ( everyone ) for the kind words and cheering [11:20] heh [11:22] LaserJock: I was cleaning up the kitchen :) [11:22] 23:22 here [11:23] tseng: very. particularly on kde side, because most devs wont take it [11:23] azeem: I've got an updated gausssum ready to go for sid [11:23] yay [11:23] azeem: what's the best way of getting it to you? [11:24] point me to a source package [11:24] k [11:24] Hobbsee: sorry, not personal [11:25] tseng: i realise that [11:25] tseng: it's okay === tseng hugs Hobbsee [11:25] FunnyLookinHat, bddebian: how the mythtv packaging coming? === Hobbsee hugs tseng [11:26] azeem: I got an email today that a bug was filed because of the new python policy but I already packaged the fix ;-) [11:26] azeem: do I need to go back and put a Closes: in the changelog? [11:27] tritium, err... I have been pulled away from it for the past week or so [11:27] wow, he got straight to the point there [11:27] FunnyLookinHat: anything I can do to help? [11:27] LaserJock: you should see him in person [11:27] LaserJock: that would be preferred, but you could also close it via -done [11:28] if it is too much hassle [11:28] tritium: I'm waiting for libie something or other to come through NEW [11:28] It's a build-dep [11:28] tritium, I'm pretty much on the right track and just need to figure out some odds and ends of package. I've gotten it to compile fine and all : ) [11:28] azeem: well, it really just takes a sec to nano the changelog and rebuild the source package [11:28] FunnyLookinHat, bddebian: okay, let me know if I can do anything. Thanks! [11:28] tritium: fixallmythtvbugskthx [11:29] crimsun: :) [11:29] LaserJock: then it's probably better, also if somebody is later looking at changelog [11:30] true [11:30] I was just annoyed because I just got everything all set [11:30] and I get a bug email about something I just fixed ;-) [11:31] LaserJock: well, that's extra points for ultra-fast bug fixing ;) [11:31] hehe [11:32] FunnyLookinHat: Are you using Marillat's packages for mythtv? [11:33] bddebian: what are you starting from? [11:34] azeem: it's the 1.0.4-1 ( new upstream) package at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/debian/ [11:35] tritium: My intent was to use Marillat's package but if FunnyLookinHat is working on it, I will back off [11:36] bddebian: no, that would be a bad thing! [11:36] ? [11:37] To back off... [11:37] Work together :) [11:37] Hobbsee: dh_mkshlibs for future reference. [11:37] tseng: ah...thanks [11:38] or dh_makeshlibs(1) in Edgy [11:38] yes, spelling counts. [11:38] tritium: Oh, there is plenty of other work to do :-) [11:38] yeah, that is still a confusing one to me. I sorta get it [11:39] bddebian: true [11:44] (longest TB ever!) [11:45] really? [11:45] bddebian, marillat hasn't updated in a long time and he has no plans to, at least that's what he said when i emailed him [11:45] bddebian, my goal was to incorporate version .19 into multiverse [11:46] .19 is in debian-multimedia [11:46] ... [11:46] it wasn't 3 weeks ago, lol [11:46] Let me make sure I'm not on crack, hang on [11:47] bddebian, then I vote for integrating the one that is already built, it just makes sense and follows how it was done in the psat [11:47] Ok [11:47] hah === ^ohoel [n=beshy@85.89.201.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] bddebian: it there. Ive seen it [11:47] Yeah, 0.19-0.10 [11:48] ok well in that case, i vote integrate. [11:48] Can we package it for ubuntu from his sources? [11:48] But it needs libieFOO that is sitting in NEW [11:48] that's funny because I emailed Christian about a month ago and he said nothing about it... === ^ohoel is now known as ohoel [11:48] getting 0.19 into edgy would rock [11:49] To package it from his sources would we just run dh_make with his source package unpacked? [11:49] (I'm still very new to the packaging techniques) [11:49] be VERY carefully when importing from marillat. [11:49] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=libie [11:50] you'll essentially need to scour the entire packaging and make sure it aligns with Ubuntu's current scheme. [11:50] LaserJock: eh, uploaded, btw [11:50] crimsun: what are the nasties to look out for? [11:50] azeem: oh, thanks. awesome [11:50] policy violations? [11:50] maybe bddebian should handle this then. I would rather not create more confusion with the project (as I seem to be doing) [11:50] tritium: anything that involves stuff Ubuntu has had to repackage, like ffmpeg [11:50] FunnyLookinHat: No, not at all [11:51] FunnyLookinHat: it's easier for you guys to work together, seriously [11:51] crimsun: were these repacked for legal issues? [11:51] and for other reasons [11:52] FunnyLookinHat: stick with it :) [11:53] heh ok, though now I am fairly lost as to what I should be doing [11:53] bddebian, if you find something you need me to do go ahead and email me (funnylookinhat@gmail.com) (i am afk on irc a lot)... and maybe I can figure it out? [11:54] Well, now crimsun has me worried :-) [11:54] well you just have to check the debian/copyright and dependencies for marillat stuff iirc [11:55] me too, bddebian ;) [11:56] hub: around ? weren't you the one talking about more efficient ways to work inside motu ? [11:57] the -meeting discussion [kubuntu devs failing to get their packages sponsored] might interest you [11:57] lucas: heh, yeah. [12:00] Later folks === Kyral sighs [12:04] Looks like more work to do lol [12:04] First EasyChem and now GTKEdit [12:05] Funny someone noticed my ancient ITP in Debian for GTKEdit, which I never fulfilled because the response was that "Its a GTK1 App and we are trying to get away from GTK1" [12:06] anybody here think motu-reviewers LP is working well? [12:06] Though quite frankly, I'm half ready to orphan all my packages and leave the project