[12:01] <cal> mistform: try xchat.  if you like irc alot, try irssi
[12:01] <gatekeeper> Sandor: the CD installer has a self check to make sure it is alright so you need to run that. There also could be a problem with your hard disk, so you would need to run badblocks from your livecd to find out (badblocks -v /dev/hda (or whatever it is called))
[12:01] <cowmilk> i have a new ipod. i've been charging it up for about 10 hours now and it's still not full. is this normal for a new ipod? Video ipod is what i have.
[12:01] <cal> mistform: irssi has perl scripting only, atm
[12:01] <ailean> cowmilk, this is an ubuntu channel
[12:01] <Paladine> cal xchat has perl, tcl, python to name just a few
[12:01] <ailean> cowmilk, sorry
[12:01] <Paladine> so again how is irssi better?
[12:01] <mistform> what kind of scripting is in mIRC?
[12:01] <cal> Paladine: I do know.
[12:01] <Paladine> mirc has its own scripting engine
[12:02] <mistform> dangit
[12:02] <mistform> now I have to learn another language
[12:02] <cowmilk> ailean: i'm sorry
[12:02] <nikin> irssi is better coz if you ruin your x server you can stil use it :D
[12:02] <wheels3572> pecisk, How do I use VNC since ubuntu already seems to have it installed?
[12:02] <cal> mistform: each new one gets easier.  :)
[12:02] <wheels3572> !vnc > wheels3572
[12:02] <Sandor> Thanks gatekeeper I'll go try that
[12:02] <Yoran> Hi guys, i install ubuntu with dual boot with xp. Everything works fine except that it doesn't detect any internet connection. Strange cause internet works fine on XP. What can be the cause of it not working?
[12:02] <mistform> the concept is the same
[12:03] <malc_> with apt-get I am trying to install libxine-codecs but it says it doesn't exist.  I have added the multiverse thing to my sources.......any idea how I can get this package?
[12:03] <mistform> but syntaxing is a bitch
[12:03] <cpk2> Yoran: is your card detected?
[12:03] <pwnsey> hey
[12:03] <mistform> i know C++, and a small amount of java
[12:03] <Yoran> cpk2: i think so
[12:03] <pwnsey> Does anyone know how i can make a network virtual drive.  Similar to Novell's NetDrive
[12:03] <cal> Paladine: if you don't know now, i'm wasting time on you
[12:03] <Yoran> cpk2: wait gonna check it out which one it is
[12:03] <bl3ssing> gekko`, from konsole?
[12:03] <majestikm> Does anyone know how to make lilo boot windows?
[12:03] <gekko`> bl3ssing: yes
[12:04] <Paladine> cal, now you really are being a retard, insulting someone who has vastly more knowledge on the subject than you is pathetic
[12:04] <bl3ssing> I'll do that in a sec.
[12:04] <Yoran> cpk2: the network card is 3Com 3C900B-TPO Ethernet Adapter (Generic)
[12:04] <cpk2> Yoran: in shows up in lspci?
[12:04] <cal> Paladine: you do?  do you know anything about me?
[12:04] <pwnsey> Does anyone know how i can make a network virtual drive.  Similar to Novell's NetDrive
[12:04] <cal> Paladine: or are you assuming you know more?
[12:04] <gekko`> malc_: search here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:04] <pwnsey> Like a FTP drive
[12:04] <gatekeeper> Sandor: good luck :-)
[12:04] <Yoran> cpk2: havent tried, what is lspci?
[12:04] <malc_> thanks gekko
[12:04] <cpk2> open a terminal and type lspci
[12:04] <Yoran> cpk2: sorry but im new to ubuntu
[12:04] <wheels3572> can anyone tell me if there is a way to remove multiple things at once from the apt-get command?
[12:05] <Paladine> cal, I don't need to know anything about you, Ican pretty much guarantee that I have been involved in irc longer than 99% of theplanet,so the chances of you actually having more experience than me on theissue are remarkably slim
[12:05] <Yoran> cpk2: ok ill try but ill have to reboot then
[12:05] <bl3ssing> gekko`, can't access the konsole.
[12:05] <Tomosaurus> haha wow
[12:05] <cpk2> why?
[12:05] <Tomosaurus> this script is horrible
[12:05] <ailean> cal, Paladine, behave yourselvess
[12:05] <kimo> wheels3572: apt-get remove one two three ?
[12:05] <cpk2> Yoran: why would you need to reboot?
[12:05] <cal> Paladine: nice bullshit statistic.  consider 99% of the planet have never used irc.
[12:05] <jcplata> ailean: i try in another computer and it is possible to enter with su?
[12:05] <void^> Paladine: in that case you should know choice of irc clients is a matter of religion ;)
[12:05] <bignose_> woo internet pissing match !
[12:05] <Yoran> cpk2: im currently in windows and need to boot with ubuntu
[12:06] <cpk2> oh i see nevermind
[12:06] <userundefine> !offtopic
[12:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:06] <pwnsey> I've tried to make a virtual drive using the "Connect to Server" under places.  However, When i do that, I am unable to open files using open office.  Is there any way I can mount a network FTP Drive?
[12:06] <ailean> jcplata, with another operating system such as fedora or red hat yes
[12:06] <Paladine> void^, as I said, I have used just about every client out there and most of the ircd's my choice is xchat
[12:06] <wheels3572> kimo, I see there are multiple parts that goto VNC and I want to remove EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED with VNC
[12:06] <void^> Paladine: good for you
[12:06] <cpk2> did it show up when you tried using the network setup gui Yoran?
[12:06] <kimo> pwnsey: look at fuse maybe
[12:07] <pwnsey> Kimo: Thanks I'll take a look.
[12:07] <vortexvein> I have a problem with my sound on Ubuntu. When I use Intel 82801BA-ICH2 device, I get good sound on the front-left speaker in when the headphones switch is on. on Audigy 1 [SB00090] , no matter how much I play around with it, I either get no sound, or static.
[12:07] <cal> pwnsey: im almost certain it came in with some other plan 9 stuff.  i can't remember how though.  it's possible to build in support
[12:08] <abo> can anyone help me to fix a problem with video plugin in firefox, some videos are working fine in konqueror but not in firefox, someother do not work in either
[12:08] <jcplata> ailean: no i do it in ubuntu breazy 5.10
[12:08] <kimo> pwnsey: if u dont do that very often though  ... just copy the file back & forth ...... or use koffice?!
[12:08] <IRCLemur> Hello everyone! :)
[12:08] <Seveas> hi IRCLemur
[12:08] <ailean> jcplata, really?
[12:08] <pwnsey> Cal: Plan 9 stuff?
[12:09] <IRCLemur> First time Ubuntu boot, here...
[12:09] <Paladine> Plan 9 publish cool books
[12:09] <pwnsey> Kimo: yeah i use it a lot, between a windows and linux computer.  Lots of documents going back and forth
[12:09] <Wiseguy> hey guys can i ask ubuntu server questions here? or is there another channel?
[12:09] <jcplata> ailean: really, i do it few minutes ago
[12:09] <Seveas> Paladine, plan9 also is very offtopic in here
[12:09] <userundefine> Wiseguy, here's fine
[12:09] <javaJake> Hello guys. I'm trying to get networkmanager working. It sees my wireless networks, but cannot connect
[12:09] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[12:09] <kimo> pwnsey: if it's a windows share, it can be mounted easily ..
[12:09] <IRCLemur> I have questions about the LiveCD....
[12:09] <Paladine> Seveas, I never raised the topic :) Imerely commented on it
[12:09] <ailean> jcplata, maybe you should ask someone else then :D
[12:09] <Seveas> Wiseguy, here is fine, #ubuntu-server ma work too for you 
[12:09] <pwnsey> Its not, its a FTP server
[12:10] <Seveas> Paladine, that doesn't make it less off-topic
[12:10] <pwnsey> Kimo:  Its a ftp server.
[12:10] <cpk2> javaJake: you know the wiki has a pretty good wireless troubleshooting guide?
[12:10] <ba5e> ohh gnome crawls with 256MB ram!! ahhh!
[12:10] <javaJake> I have checked that out
[12:10] <bignose_> hrmm if install the nvidia-kernel-common jive, will i need to reinstall the vmware modules ?
[12:10] <kimo> pwnsey: ok .. the only thing I can think of, is maybe fuse
[12:10] <javaJake> I have commented out the devices and whatnot
[12:10] <cal> pwnsey: yeah, plan 9 ha a lot of network mounting related stuff.  mounting ftp was a plan 9 thing.
[12:10] <Seveas> bignose_, nvidia and vmware are completely separate entities
[12:10] <pwnsey> Kimo: I'll check out fuse.  Thanks
[12:10] <ky_> how would i wipe my hardrive with ubuntu
[12:10] <pwnsey> Cal: Yeah, I'll take a look at that as well.
[12:10] <javaJake> cpk2, I can get it working this way:
[12:10] <Seveas> cal, please take offtopic talk elsewhere
[12:11] <jcplata> ailean: the main problem is that i try to install a libcupsimage2-dev and the console said me that the download directoriy is block
[12:11] <bignose_> Seveas: yes, however i've read that when upgrading the kernel , vmware often bitches. so i wasn't sure. i guess i'd learn soon enough :)
[12:11] <danf_1979> Hi, any good firewall out in the repos?
[12:11] <danf_1979> console based...
[12:11] <cal> Seveas: i wasn't talking about plan 9
[12:11] <userundefine> danf_1979, iptables
[12:11] <IRCLemur> I have booted from the LiveCD and installed XMMS... is there anyway to "nest" or retain the changes I've made to Ubuntu?
[12:11] <Miek> iptables :p
[12:11] <Seveas> bignose_, vmware alwaus bitches about kernel upgrades
[12:11] <javaJake> cpk2, 1. tell networkmanager to connect to network 2. run sudo ifup wlan0 3. networkmanager reports connected
[12:11] <Wiseguy> ok, well im trying to get my internet connection working from one of the nics in my gateway (i have 2).. both are detected and i can bring both interfaces up, but during the setup it said dhcp failed to get an ip address from my modem.. anyone have any ideas why i cant get an IP from my modem?
[12:11] <cal> Seveas: i was trying to help him find the ftp mounting stuff
[12:11] <bignose_> Seveas: that's why i asked :)
[12:11] <Paladine> bignose, vmware is built based on your kernel headers, if you change your kernel you need todownload the new headers and rebuild vmware
[12:11] <danf_1979> I want one iptables based
[12:11] <kimo> pwnsey: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_FTP_Mount
[12:11] <bignose_> Paladine: word. thanks.
[12:11] <cpk2> javaJake: how is that a problem?
[12:11] <ailean> jcplata, i'd love to help you  more, but i can't. open your question to the floor
[12:11] <danf_1979> a wrapper
[12:11] <jcplata> ailean: for that reason i try to enter as a root user.. i install in another pc and there's no problem but now i have problems.
[12:12] <pwnsey> kimo: Thanks!  I'll take a look.  I owe you.
[12:12] <javaJake> cpk2, because I don't want to have to punch in sudo ifup wlan0 just to get networkmanager to work
[12:12] <cpk2> javaJake: what is networkmanager doing for you?
[12:12] <ailean> jcplata, and you tried the command with "sudo" before it?
[12:12] <Grue_Lovah> is there a way to make flash movies on linux?
[12:12] <cpk2> !info networkmanager
[12:12] <ubotu> Package networkmanager does not exist in dapper
[12:12] <jcplata> ailean: thank you a lot.
[12:12] <javaJake> cpk2, automatically switch to new network, and use keys automatically
[12:12] <Seveas> !info network-manager
[12:12] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:12] <ky_> someone help me
[12:12] <jcplata> ailean: yes, i alredy try with sudo command
[12:12] <javaJake> cpk2, it will only work for one network. I need to reconfigure interfaces file to get it working elsewhere
[12:13] <erUSUL> !anyone > ky_
[12:13] <cal> javaJake: considered a quick script?
[12:13] <javaJake> ky_, run the livecd, and format
[12:13] <javaJake> cal, yes, but I want to get this working first
[12:13] <javaJake> ky_, unless you want to write 0s
[12:13] <bignose_> besides rebooting is thre a recommended way to restart x ?
[12:13] <bignose_> kill -HUP gdm i guess :)
[12:14] <cal> bignose_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:14] <cpk2> javaJake: it does work, is wlan0 even on at bootup?
[12:14] <bignose_> won't that just bring me back to gdm menu ?
[12:14] <cal> bignose_: gdm will (normally annoying) restart itself
[12:14] <danf_1979> I tried to install APF Firewall, but it seems that it doesn't support debian based distros. Also tried Firehole, but I didn't like it... any other one you could recommend?
[12:14] <ba5e> If I have multiple Java releases installed, where can I find the files so I can delete the ones I dont need?
[12:14] <javaJake> cpk2, I have it commented out, as per wiki'
[12:14] <javaJake> cpk2, I uncomment after nm-applet loads so ifup works
[12:14] <ba5e> danf_1979: whatn about just iptables
[12:15] <IRCLemur> Can I save the changes that I've made to Ubuntu and reload them from USB?
[12:15] <bignose_> woo, that did it.
[12:15] <Dev05> Hi there. I installed SuSE with my Ubuntu system and now Ubuntu doesn't boot from GRUB. It says that it canot mount "this type of partition". Any idea?
[12:15] <bignose_> thanks.
[12:15] <ba5e> danf_1979: use firestarter on top
[12:15] <javaJake> bignose_, there's a cleaner way... hold on two secs
[12:15] <Grue_Lovah> f41 ahhh
[12:15] <danf_1979> I prefer a good, easy, newbie friendly wrapper...
[12:15] <cal> IRCLemur: needlessly difficult.  why?
[12:15] <danf_1979> It must be console based
[12:15] <javaJake> bignose_, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:15] <bignose_> javaJake: coo
[12:15] <Seveas> Dev05, please consult #suse on their way to restore grub configurations
[12:16] <jcplata> anyone can help me to install libcupsimage2-dev in my ubuntu pc?
[12:16] <ba5e> Dev05: reinstall grub from the Ubuntu live cd, probably newer vesion
[12:16] <IRCLemur> cal: Because I do not wish to delete my winblows system from my 5.59GB HD.
[12:16] <Dev05> Seveas, It says that I'm banned from it :S I don't know. I've never used this NickName in #suse.
[12:16] <javaJake> cpk2, any ideas about nm?
[12:16] <kimo> Dev05: yep, I get the same error, but it boots ok if the kernel & initrd are correct!!!
[12:16] <Seveas> danf_1979, newbie friendly and console based don't really go together
[12:17] <danf_1979> Seveas, this is for server based installations
[12:17] <danf_1979> there is no gui
[12:17] <cal> IRCLemur: there isn't a nice way to do it.  maybe look at diffing conf files or something.
[12:17] <Dev05> kimo, They are correct. Eveything is there.
[12:17] <Seveas> danf_1979, consider shorewall, it has a web interface that's easy to enable/disable
[12:17] <erUSUL> jcplata: sudo apt-get install libcupsys2-dev (or with synaptic)
[12:17] <Dev05> ba5e, Shouldn't it work anyway? I mean, is just booting a Kernel up.
[12:17] <cpk2> javaJake: wpasupplicant off?
[12:17] <IRCLemur> cal: I'm new to linux- Should I give up now? lol
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, I don't know. I don't use it
[12:18] <cal> IRCLemur: have you made a lot of changes?
[12:18] <kimo> Dev05: dont know, on my machine it boots ok, but if I hit e in grub I get that error about not mounting that partition!
[12:18] <cal> IRCLemur: it is most likely easier to start again
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, how do I turn it off?
[12:18] <cpk2> javaJake: it needs to be set to 0
[12:18] <Dev05> kimo, Bug?
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, where?
[12:18] <DarkSnake> Okay, problem here, I have a working router and a Linux box connected to it. This computer is on the same one. I don't get an IPv4 on the linux box, just an IPv6. Anyone know what the problem might be? Eth0 is enabled.
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, sorry, I can't help being a n00b.
[12:18] <danf_1979> I'll take a look, but I really prefer something like APF firewall. The problem with it is that it expects a /etc/rc.init/ directory, and a /etc/rc.init/functions file that doesn't exist...
[12:18] <cpk2> javaJake: /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[12:18] <IRCLemur> cal:  Not many, but I would make several more were it possible to restore them from LiveCD boot.
[12:18] <kimo> Dev05: I am very inclined to think so!
[12:18] <cpk2> javaJake: ENABLED=0
[12:19] <javaJake> cpk2, thanks for the patience! It's really appreciated!!
[12:19] <mistform> javajake: y yo tambien
[12:19] <kimo> Dev05: u might want to install grub from ubuntu
[12:19] <ky_> i dont know linux can someone walk me through reformatting my hard drive plz
[12:19] <javaJake> misfit_toy, huh?
[12:19] <Dev05> kimo, I'll try hacking on my menu.lst before trying anything else...  :)
[12:19] <bignose_> ky_: linux is not about being walked thur things. do some reasearch.
[12:19] <greenman> can someone point me in the direction of the livecd?  I've done it before but I can't seem to find it.
[12:19] <mistform> ky_: what are you trying to do?
[12:19] <cal> ky_: start doing it a post here when you have an issue
[12:19] <bignose_> greenman: the default cd is the live cd.
[12:19] <Gun_Smoke> Looking for information on changing an icon theme.. Looked on gnome-look.org... nothing.  Looked on ubuntuguide.org, nothing.. help?
[12:19] <Seveas> !attitude > bignose_
[12:19] <mistform> knoppix?
[12:20] <ba5e> Dev05: you would think so, try changing the kernel arguements
[12:20] <greenman> bignose_: how do you use it as a livecd?
[12:20] <cal> ky_: fdisk is a good program to use.  gparted too.
[12:20] <ky_> im trying to take linux off my comp so that i can put windows on
[12:20] <Gun_Smoke> I have the theme.. I just don't know how to change it.
[12:20] <greenman> mine only comes up with options to install
[12:20] <bignose_> greenman: i don't, but you certainly can.
[12:20] <javaJake> cpk2, /etc/default/wpasupplicant does not exist
[12:20] <Seveas> Gun_Smoke, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[12:20] <javaJake> cpk2, doy... make it :D
[12:20] <Seveas> (i think)
[12:20] <Gun_Smoke> Seveas:  Thanks.  looking
[12:20] <nikin> i get the folowing message of the printer
[12:20] <bignose_> greenman: i think at some point they made the install cd and live cd all one cd. so that'll work for you.
[12:20] <mistform> ky_: just put your windows CD and boot from the CD
[12:20] <nikin> Hold: Can't open FIFO: Permission denied
[12:20] <cpk2> i dont think it needs to have that file, but i guess wont hurt to make it
[12:20] <Dev05> ba5e, I'll make the Ubuntu entry look like the SuSE one, but with its own args and partition numbers and I'll se what I get/
[12:20] <DarkSnake> Okay, problem here, I have a working router and a Linux box connected to it. This computer is on the same one. I don't get an IPv4 on the linux box, just an IPv6. Anyone know what the problem might be? Eth0 is enabled.
[12:20] <choique> hi i need help whith vhcs
[12:21] <mistform> ky_: then it will give you an option to partition
[12:21] <ky_> i tried and it wont work
[12:21] <skitzomike> does anyone know why nessus would give me a segmentation fault every time click scan
[12:21] <ky_> ok partition how do u do that?
[12:21] <Seveas> DarkSnake, eth0 also setup to use dhcp?
[12:21] <mistform> ky_: you have to DELETE the partition, and create a new one
[12:21] <greenman> bignose_: can you or someone else tell me how to use the regular cd as a livecd?  It just wants to install when I boot
[12:21] <ky_> k and how do i do that?
[12:21] <DarkSnake> Seveas Yes, eth0 is using DHCP
[12:21] <IRCLemur> cal:  what is the smallest amout of MB/GB needed to install Ubuntu on a dual boot system?
[12:21] <Seveas> greenman, you can't do that,,,
[12:21] <userundefine> ky_, if you just want to install windows, put the windows cd in and it will format the drive for you.
[12:21] <javaJake> cpk2, I'll be back after reboot, unless there's an easier way....
[12:21] <choique> i install vhcs and when intent enter in a vhcs i not see anithing
[12:21] <bignose_> greenman: what is the filename of the iso you burned ?
[12:21] <bignose_> greenman: i suspect you have an older version.
[12:21] <ky_> it wont let me do that
[12:22] <greenman> Seveas: what can I do?
[12:22] <Seveas> DarkAudit, try running dhclient manually: sudo dhclient eth0
[12:22] <cal> IRCLemur: no idea, sorry
[12:22] <jcplata> erUSUL: i try with synaptic but it show me this error.. the download directory is temporaly block 11 resource
[12:22] <cpk2> javaJake: i assume you made the appropiate changes to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/networkmanager.conf
[12:22] <greenman> bignose_: ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64.iso
[12:22] <Seveas> greenman, you can't use the alternative install cd as live cd. That's impossible
[12:22] <Dev05> greenman, Didn't you get the Server version?
[12:22] <DarkSnake> Seveas Okay, I'll try that
[12:22] <Seveas> greenman, same goes for the server cd
[12:22] <Dev05> greenman, Oh yeah, you did.
[12:22] <bignose_> greenman: that's the server cd.. if you want live cd, you need to use the desktop cd afaik.
[12:22] <cpk2> and to nm-applet.conf
[12:22] <Seveas> greenman, only the desktop cd is a live cd
[12:22] <greenman> bignose_: ah.
[12:22] <ky_> how do i partition
[12:23] <greenman> I thought that's what I downloaded.  Sorry.  And thanks
[12:23] <erUSUL> jcplata: are you running more than one instance at once? or the update manager? try with the command i gave you
[12:23] <bignose_> you wouldn't really want to run a server off a livecd. well maybe in a specialized situation,b ut not in general.
[12:23] <javaJake> cpk2, what do you mean?
[12:23] <Seveas> bignose_, the only actual enviroonmet i've seen that being useful in is data recovery 
[12:24] <Seveas> gnomefreak, you KDE fetishist! :
[12:24] <bignose_> Seveas: yeah or maybe some weird diskless server that stores setting on USB or some filthy mcnasty thing like that.
[12:24] <Evil_Ed`> hello
[12:24] <Seveas> heh, filthy mcnasty 
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ;)
[12:24] <greenman> heh filthy mcnasty
[12:24] <cpk2> you need to set "allow" on a couple of lines in networkmanager.conf and nm-applet.conf
[12:24] <bignose_> i guess it might work well for a NAT box or somethin
[12:24] <jcplata> erUSUL: i allredy use that command sudo apt-get install libcupsimage2-dev
[12:24] <Seveas> /nick FilthyMcNasty
[12:24] <javaJake> cpk2, OK... well... I assume this is in the wiki
[12:24] <erUSUL> jcplata: and?? it worked? note that you have to close synaptic
[12:25] <cal> bignose_: link would help ;)
[12:25] <jcplata> this is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19339
[12:25] <eigenlambda> Seveas: i am quite impressed with your kana
[12:25] <eigenlambda> that is going in my chars file
[12:25] <Seveas> eigenlambda, look at gucharmap
[12:25] <bignose_> cal : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226792
[12:25] <choique> hey any body read this?
[12:25] <eigenlambda> yes, i know
[12:25] <bignose_> choique: newp. we can't see a think you're typing :)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> bignose_: you know there is a forums channel on irc too ;)
[12:25] <bignose_> gnomefreak: i didn't actually.
[12:25] <eigenlambda> i hadn't thought of using a shi as an emoticon
[12:25] <Sandor> ok when i attempt to run badblocks it says permission denied...
[12:25] <gnomefreak> bignose_: #ubuntu-forums
[12:26] <Evil_Ed`> fun
[12:26] <Seveas> eigenlambda, it's a tsu
[12:26] <bignose_> gnomefreak: cool.
[12:26] <cal> bignose_: VMWare.  im no help.  :
[12:26] <cal> P
[12:26] <radioaktivstorm> hello! how do I access rood from the terminal ; I want to run zephyr
[12:26] <choique> ok bignose_
[12:26] <cpk2> javaJake: just looked and it is... so hopefully you did everything the wiki said
[12:26] <radioaktivstorm> *root
[12:26] <Seveas> !root > radioaktivstorm
[12:26] <gnomefreak> radioaktivstorm: sudo -i
[12:26] <choique> i have a problem in vhcs.. any body can helpme?
[12:26] <bignose_> choique: be more specific
[12:27] <Wiseguy> hey guys im trying to get my internet connection working from one of the nics in my gateway (i have 2).. both are detected and i can bring both interfaces up, but during the setup it said dhcp failed to get an ip address from my modem.. anyone have any ideas why i cant get an IP from my modem?
[12:27] <cpk2> Wiseguy: its selfish?
[12:27] <javaJake> cpk2, My bad. I thought that was if there was an error with dbus
[12:27] <javaJake> cpk2, thanks!
[12:27] <radioaktivstorm> thanks!
[12:28] <DarkSnake> Seveas sudo dhclient eth0 just gave me some error about no working leases in persistant database
[12:28] <cpk2> javaJake: it looks like its just for errors but still it's nice to double check
[12:28] <javaJake> Yea
[12:28] <eigenlambda> what's a 0095?
[12:28] <Seveas> DarkSnake, then the dhcp server isn't responding. pastebin the output of sudo mii-diag eth0
[12:28] <Wiseguy> cpk2: my router also wont get an IP from my modem, but i think its just a coincidence, i dont think its related
[12:28] <Dev05> ba5e, kimo, I got another question while I'm here. Can I boot Windows directly from GRUB or I always need to chain loaders?
[12:28] <Seveas> eigenlambda, babi ketjap
[12:28] <DarkSnake> I can't really paste anything, it's in another room... hmm...
[12:29] <choique> ok bignose i install vhcs and install ok but when i tried to enter in vhcs dont see anything
[12:29] <bignose_> Wiseguy: disable one NIC and try it. or try a different machine if you have one. rule out the modem hardware first..
[12:29] <_darksoul> !ati
[12:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <Seveas> DarkSnake, does it say 'you have link beat'?
[12:29] <Seveas> (no need to paste)
[12:29] <bignose_> choique: i have no experience with vhcs, i was just suggesting if you want help, you need to be more specific.
[12:29] <Wiseguy> bignose_: i am able to get an IP from the modem with my ubuntu desktop box
[12:29] <cpk2> javaJake: might want to check  http://live.gnome.org/networkmanagerhardware
[12:30] <DarkSnake> Seveas lemme go check
[12:30] <bignose_> Wiseguy: just not server eh ?
[12:30] <erUSUL> Dev05: what would be the diference?
[12:30] <Wiseguy> yeah
[12:30] <ba5e> Dev05: no you dont
[12:30] <bignose_> Wiseguy: strange.  no idea. but yeah try disabling one of the 2 nics and trying.
[12:31] <Dev05> erUSUL, I have GRUB, the Vista Loader and the XP and erlier loader. To boot two of my OSes I have to go trough three different menus.
[12:31] <Dev05> ba5e, Oh :(
[12:32] <DarkSnake> Seveas It did not say "You have link beat"
[12:32] <Seveas> DarkSnake, then the physical connection (aka the cable) is not working
[12:32] <jcplata> erUSUL: what do you think about my error?
[12:32] <minerale> does anyone else's firefox crashed from this flash game: http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html ?
[12:32] <DarkSnake> I was wondering if that was the csae
[12:32] <DarkSnake> case
[12:32] <gr33npho3nix> does anybody know how i can make the power button on my laptop initiate shutdown instead of pop-up the logout screen
[12:32] <ba5e> Dev05: what is your GRUB entry for ubuntu in the new GRUB?
[12:32] <DarkSnake> I'll try criming it agian later.
[12:33] <ba5e> nope hes gone!
[12:33] <erUSUL> jcplata: i missed that. did you used the command i gave you? do you have all repos enabled?
[12:33] <DarkSnake> Thanks for the help
[12:33] <javaJake> It didn't work
[12:33] <javaJake> Worth a shot
[12:33] <erUSUL> !synaptic > jcplata
[12:33] <ba5e> gr33npho3nix: yeah its easy
[12:33] <javaJake> cpk2, I think this is interesting:
[12:33] <erUSUL> !sources > jcplata
[12:33] <javaJake> cpk2, Jul 31 18:30:50 localhost NetworkManager: <information>^Iwpa_supplicant(6985): Association request to the driver failed
[12:33] <HackMaster> I need some help installing ubuntu on a computer with no network and no bootable CD drive
[12:33] <javaJake> cpk2, I'm using ndiswrapper drivers
[12:34] <ba5e> gr33npho3nix: system : preferences : power
[12:34] <jcplata> erUSUL: how can i enable that repos and sources?
[12:34] <mistform> hacmaster: it doesn't have a CD drive?
[12:34] <javaJake> HackMaster, do you have a CD drive?
[12:34] <gekko`> !source-o-matic
[12:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:34] <erUSUL> jcplata: read what ubotu told you
[12:34] <javaJake> HackMaster, you can use the floppy to boot the CD
[12:35] <gr33npho3nix> ba5e: thanks, never checked there
[12:35] <mistform> yeah, but it takes alot of floppies ;)
[12:35] <HackMaster> yes, it has an old 4 cd changer that is not detected by anything
[12:35] <Wiseguy> bignose_: how do i rerun dhcpcd again on an interface? dhcpcd eth1 doesnt work... i disabled the onboard NIC
[12:35] <mistform> I would just use a USB flash drive
[12:35] <HackMaster> i tried the floppy that tries, but it refuses to detect it
[12:35] <mistform> hackmaster: did you check in BIOS?
[12:35] <ba5e> gr33npho3nix: actually you cant shutdown from there, only hibernate or sleep!
[12:35] <HackMaster> there is is no real bios
[12:35] <bignose_> Wiseguy: man dhcpd see what is says :)
[12:35] <gr33npho3nix> i just know ubuntu switched it at one point and i was really dissapointed cause i liked that when i was exhausted and heading to bed
[12:35] <gr33npho3nix> damn
[12:35] <javaJake> mistform, you read my mind
[12:35] <mistform> does it POST?
[12:36] <javaJake> HackMaster, what!?
[12:36] <HackMaster> its an old HP thing with a flat panel screen and everythign behind the screen
[12:36] <gr33npho3nix> i'm looking for shutdown or even to put shutdown back in the log out menu
[12:36] <HackMaster> its insane
[12:36] <len> Hi, can any1 tell me how to execute a command in shell as other user?
[12:36] <mistform> if it post's, it has a BIOS lol
[12:36] <HackMaster> the bios itself is like a graphical interface
[12:36] <SGL> Hello
[12:36] <ba5e> HackMaster: do you have a CD drive?
[12:36] <javaJake> HackMaster, yea.... wow.....
[12:36] <bignose_> Wiseguy: you may want to look at dhclient [note most of my experience is with FreeBSD so i hope i don't leed you astray] 
[12:36] <mistform> did you hit Del during boot?
[12:36] <harisund> Hello! Anybody with experience using NFS here? Can one user not setup a share of another user?
[12:36] <SGL> How can I apt-get install openssl-devel ???
[12:36] <Nuked> HAHAHAHHAHAH!!!! IVE DONE IT!!! MY OWN LIVE CD!!!!
[12:36] <HackMaster> it says "COMPAQ" then proceeds to boot into windows 95
[12:36] <SGL> I need it, but can't find the manage
[12:36] <Wiseguy> bignose_: it says unknown command... how could dhcpd not be installed by default? :P
[12:36] <javaJake> Nuked, congrats :P
[12:36] <SGL> but can't find the package
[12:37] <bignose_> Wiseguy: because ubuntu does not install servers by default. dhcpd is a server.
[12:37] <erUSUL> SGL: do you have all repos enabled?
[12:37] <harisund> Wiseguy dhcpd is not installed by default. What are you looking for?
[12:37] <javaJake> HackMaster, sounds like an evil computer. :)
[12:37] <erUSUL> !sources > SGL
[12:37] <SGL> erUSUL: define "all"
[12:37] <HackMaster> it has a bios feature, but it has stuff like enable power settings and such
[12:37] <bignose_> Wiseguy: look for dhclient instead.
[12:37] <javaJake> cpk2, do you have any ideas?
[12:37] <HackMaster> no boot from CD
[12:37] <HackMaster> @javajake i know
[12:37] <mistform> not "boot from CD"
[12:37] <erUSUL> SGL: universe at least
[12:37] <len> I need to execute a command in my shell as another user. Ne1 know how to do it?
[12:37] <mistform> does it detect anything under the IDE?
[12:37] <HackMaster> what is it?
[12:38] <SGL> shit.. have to go. Be right back later to try again
[12:38] <mistform> what is what, the IDE?
[12:38] <HackMaster> what is "it"
[12:38] <javaJake> len, if you have ssh installed
[12:38] <dr_willis> lun su command
[12:38] <javaJake> len, you can use that
[12:38] <generalleoff> Does Eye of GNOME support viewing MNG files or is there some package I can install to inable it to do so?
[12:38] <HackMaster> it is useable in win 95
[12:38] <Intangir> does anyone use Xvnc?
[12:38] <javaJake> HackMaster, there's a way to install Ubuntu within an OS
[12:38] <blinker> does rythmbox play mp3's out of the box, or is a plugin req'd?
[12:38] <HackMaster> i know
[12:38] <javaJake> HackMaster, unfortunaltey I don't know how to do that
[12:38] <dr_willis> Intangir,  i use vnc :)
[12:38] <mistform> the CD drive should be detected as like, "Toshiba 4-disc CD-ROM <serial>"
[12:38] <len> javaJake: I dont think I have it installed, but I'll check it now
[12:38] <HackMaster> but it requires the ues of the network
[12:38] <Nuked> javaJake: thanks
[12:38] <majestikm> I'm trying to tri-boot ubuntu, osx, and windows on my macbook.  I'm using rEFIt and lilo... what should be /etc/lilo.conf look like?
[12:39] <JDStone> if I want to just install X on Ubuntu and no desktop environment, what package would I install?
[12:39] <javaJake> len, thanks
[12:39] <Intangir> Xvnc -inetd is crashing for me.. it doesnt crash on one machine, but it crashes on another.. oh a 64bit machine
[12:39] <tuxtux> good night at all
[12:39] <HackMaster> mistform, you taking to me?
[12:39] <len> javaJake: btw I never used ssh b4 XD
[12:39] <Intangir> Xvnc -inetd is crashing on my 64bit machine for some reason, ive tried TWO different version (tightvnc 3.3.tight.. and vncserver 3.3.7)
[12:39] <mistform> hackmaster, I'm trying to help
[12:39] <HackMaster> mistform, you are correct. that is detected in win 95
[12:39] <javaJake> len, ok...
[12:39] <dr_willis> Intangir,  cant recall ever doing it that way. i had vncserver set where xinetd could spawn it as needed. and give me a gdm login
[12:39] <HackMaster> mistform, it is the approx name, i am not near the computer right now
[12:40] <mistform> ok
[12:40] <dr_willis> Intangir,  i tend to use vnc4server
[12:40] <JDStone> if I want to just install just Xserver on Ubuntu and no desktop environment, what package would I install?
[12:40] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is it possible to connect the hard drive to a second computer and DD over a hard drive image?
[12:40] <len> javaJake: how do I enable ssh here? I got this ssh: connect to host len port 22: Connection refused
[12:40] <mistform> go into the "Boot Device Priority" or something like that, and make sure that the CD drive is selected before the HD
[12:40] <Seveas> len, apt-get install ssh
[12:41] <len> Seveas, k thx
[12:41] <erUSUL> JDStone: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:41] <HackMaster> mistform, there is no such thing in the bios
[12:41] <javaJake> len, install openssh-server
[12:41] <HackMaster> it scans the disk in the drive before it boots, but it never boots
[12:41] <JDStone> erUSUL: I don't want fluxbox, just X
[12:41] <HackMaster> before it boots windows
[12:41] <javaJake> HackMaster, excellent idea!
[12:41] <mistform> hackmaster: there has to be a boot priority, or boot sequence part
[12:41] <unikon>  has there ever been any login issues with 5.10 breezy after a fresh install
[12:41] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: no boot priority in any way
[12:41] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have searched all over it
[12:42] <Wiseguy> dhclient didnt work either on the modem... it worked when i plugged the NIC into the router, i was able to get an IP from it..
[12:42] <Intangir> dr_willis: ya im trying to set it up like that, in that setup you use the -inetd parameter in xinetd's config
[12:42] <dr_willis> unikon,  not that i have heard of.. Breezy is pld.
[12:42] <javaJake> HackMaster, yea, definately an evil computer. M$'s fingerprints all over him
[12:42] <mistform> like, my laptop can boot from USB, DVD, PC card, HD
[12:42] <Intangir> dr_willis: but apparently its a 64bit issue, that makes it segfault ;( on ALL versions!
[12:42] <erUSUL> JDStone: you will need at least one window manager... and doing what i said will install fonts and other things that maybe would get missed if you install only xserver-xorg
[12:42] <jcplata> erUSUL: which command show me the PID?
[12:42] <dr_willis> Intangir,  hmm. i dont recall.. :P i followed a Gentoo wiki on it.. I dont mess with 64bit disrtos yet
[12:42] <sinppa_> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123221217782777472
[12:42] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: and every other computer of mine will boot from just about anything
[12:42] <len> Seveas, javaJake: Do u know any good page, so I can follow as tutorial to use ssh?
[12:42] <javaJake> len, this is super easy
[12:42] <erUSUL> jcplata: the PID of which process??
[12:43] <RAF> micio
[12:43] <javaJake> len, open terminal, and run sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:43] <Seveas> len, any introduction to shell commands will do
[12:43] <dink_> I am running ubtuntu 6.06 lts. I have the soundcard working perfect under xmms. When I go to play sound in anything outside of xmms it is fuzzy and makes poping noises.. How can I make my system sound the same as xmms
[12:43] <Seveas> !commands > len
[12:43] <mistform> hackmaster: it has a boot sequence, but you just have to find it.  different ones have different names and ways they set them up.
[12:43] <javaJake> len, you should then be able to run ssh username@127.0.0.1
[12:43] <riffic> problem with firefox 1.5.0.5
[12:43] <jcplata> erUSUL: all PID executing at this moment in my pc?
[12:43] <dink_> this problem does not exist under debian 3.1
[12:43] <HackMaster> mistform, i thought too, but its very weird
[12:43] <mistform> I did a hardware hack and set numbers, like, 1,2,3,0,0
[12:43] <javaJake> mistform, let's assume that hackmaster doesn't have a boot list
[12:43] <riffic> open firefox, quit firefox, try to open firefox again, error: firefox already in use
[12:43] <erUSUL> jcplata: ps ax
[12:43] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: thats the first thing i did
[12:43] <dink_> does anyone else have a fuzzy sound card issue
[12:44] <riffic> pkill firefox, reopen firefox, works normally
[12:44] <ba5e> HackMaster: if the cd/bios is not eltorito compatible, it will not bood CD's
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is look for a boot order
[12:44] <dink_> and was able to get it to work fine under xmms
[12:44] <dink_> but not under anything else
[12:44] <len> Seveas, javaJake: Yeah I think I got it... I just installed the openssh-server, and now is asking for password. Thx
[12:44] <riffic> is this an extension issue or is firefox messed up?
[12:44] <ba5e> HackMaster:  do you have a floppy drive?
[12:44] <javaJake> len, yw
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: yes
[12:44] <mistform> then how did they get the original OS on there.....
[12:44] <dink_> having flash files sound fuzzy is annoying enough to want to go back to deb
[12:44] <dorito> hello. i use ubuntu 6.06 .. i want to download the kernel headers. would you help?
[12:44] <Dev05> ba5e, kimo, Hold on, the SuSE 10.1 version of GRUB cannot mount EXT2 volumes???
[12:44] <JDStone> thanks erUSUL, that'll work
[12:44] <help-the-n00b> listen to specific artists?
[12:44] <frosty_badfish> how do I know which hotkey-setup my system use, my fn key for volume up and down doesn't work
[12:44] <jcplata> erUSUL: thak you
[12:44] <dink_> dorito: you can apt-get them
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: it will boot from floppy
[12:44] <ba5e> Dev05: lol!
[12:44] <javaJake> HackMaster, get Smart Boot on the floppy
[12:44] <help-the-n00b> is there program where I can listen to specific artists?
[12:44] <javaJake> HackMaster, then the floppy will boot with a list of devices to boot from
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i tried that
[12:45] <ba5e> Dev05: paste your menu.lst to pastebin
[12:45] <dorito> dink_ no.. i want to have them stand alone for later uses too
[12:45] <javaJake> HackMaster, oh, wow... you are, like, on top of this. :P
[12:45] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: it lists the floppy and the hard drive
[12:45] <gekko`> dorito: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:45] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i tried
[12:45] <dink_> dorito: apt-get source
[12:45] <dink_> or you can go to kernel.org and get it
[12:45] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: Wow. Talk about EVIL! Can't say that enough!!!
[12:45] <dorito> hum.. k
[12:45] <Intangir> how do i download a specific package, from a specific repository? even if its not in my sources or anything?
[12:45] <Intangir> i need the .deb file
[12:45] <abo> how can I get totem to play rmm files?
[12:45] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i also did the 5 floppy trick to boot up grub and the network install app
[12:45] <javaJake> cpk2, do you have any nm ideas?
[12:45] <dink_> is anyone else aware of a ac 97 sound issue
[12:45] <ba5e> HackMaster: you need to create a small bootable linux environment, there is a bootdisk environment that will load an ubuntu cd, i will search for in for the name
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Intangir: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:46] <dink_> how do i make ubuntu strictly use alsa-oss
[12:46] <help-the-n00b> anyone know?
[12:46] <Intangir> cool
[12:46] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: it proceeds all the way to the DHCP search, and my custom installed NIC wont do anything
[12:46] <blinker> help-the-n00b: nope, sorry...i'm still working on the basics of mp3 playback, lol
[12:46] <dink_> blinker, i can help with that
[12:46] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i can 3
[12:46] <help-the-n00b> wats dat
[12:46] <bignose_> !mp3
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <Seveas> dink_, why would you want to go back in time? ISS is deprecated
[12:46] <dink_> help-the-noonb
[12:46] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: oops
[12:46] <dink_> whats up
[12:46] <frosty_badfish> help-the-n00b: do you want to listen to specific music genres?
[12:46] <dink_> seveas: it works
[12:46] <dink_> everything else is fuzzy
[12:46] <javaJake> ba5e, mistform, HackMaster: If you can't get your internet to work, then don
[12:47] <javaJake> 't upgrade
[12:47] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i can get into the termal in the network boot installer
[12:47] <phuzz> stupid question: how do you unhide the system tray? (someone hid it when I was out) haha
[12:47] <Dev05> ba5e, Here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19340
[12:47] <Seveas> dink_, in that case: use an abacus 
[12:47] <erUSUL> dink_: i'm nt sure i understand the question. apps use alsa oss emulation layer. you will have to change apps settings
[12:47] <dink_> hehe or i can drop ubuntu and use a real os as in debian :-P (j/k)
[12:47] <blinker> dink_ rythmbox doesn't seem to be playing any mp3's despite claiming to be able to
[12:47] <Seveas> dink_, sure
[12:47] <Dev05> phuxx, Right-click the little gray thing at the left of it and choose "Remove from Panel".
[12:47] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: any other suggestions?
[12:47] <dink_> blinker: have you ran easy ubuntu script
[12:47] <help-the-n00b> frosty_badfish, ye
[12:47] <Seveas> or go with windows where such sound issues don't exist 
[12:47] <help-the-n00b> yeh
[12:48] <Dev05> phuzz, Right-click the little gray thing at the left of it and choose "Remove from Panel".
[12:48] <ba5e> Dev05: okay one second
[12:48] <blinker> i'd probably remember that, so no
[12:48] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform, ba5e: Unfortunately I do not have any more ideas.
[12:48] <ThrashJazzAssass> I can play all audio formats except from WAV, can anyone help?
[12:48] <dink_> help-the-noob: what version of ubuntu are you running. If you are having mp3 issues and you are on dapper drake easy unbuntu fixes that
[12:48] <dink_> thrashjazzassass: do you have the wav codec downloaded
[12:48] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform, ba5e: you need internet to work, first of all. You need the appropriate drivers that will make your CD and/or internet work. That's the main task that really needs to get done.
[12:49] <ThrashJazzAssass> what's it called?
[12:49] <dr_willis> Heh - proberly the only thing easyubuntu fix's - it dident seem todo too good for me last i tried it.
[12:49] <Dimar> Could someone answer me a question about this operating system?
[12:49] <erUSUL> !easyubuntu
[12:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:49] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have bad luck with getting NICs to work
[12:49] <phuzz> Dev05: no, like all the icons by my clock are gone (gaim,listen,etc) I know the processes are running and the proporties dont have hid/unhide (ive googled cant find it, but i know its something stupid) :)
[12:49] <dr_willis> Dimar,  and the Q is?
[12:49] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have a usb >ethernet cord thing, and the windows drivers to make it work
[12:49] <dink_> @wav question: di an apt-cache search for wav codec
[12:49] <Dimar> I use a Sprint Connection card with Windoze and I travel alot so I also use a wifi card any ideas if this OS might support it?
[12:49] <dink_> something should come up
[12:49] <yairgo`> anyone know what "[   25.547056]  Kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check" means?  it happens when i try to run the alternate cd
[12:49] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: well, won't ndiswrapper do the trick?
[12:50] <dink_> dimar: you may have better luck with mepis
[12:50] <Dev05> phuzz, Right-click your Panel and choose "Add to Panel..."
[12:50] <Seveas> yairgo`, it means the system does a boo-boo
[12:50] <Seveas> check the md5sum of the iso
[12:50] <Dimar> Hmm...
[12:50] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: BRB
[12:50] <ThrashJazzAssass> shouldn't WAV files play by default?
[12:50] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: for the usb>ethernet thing? i cant get to the point to make it try
[12:50] <dr_willis> Dimar,  that is proberly somthing ya will hae to google about the sprint stuff.. its soo new - i doubt it.. as for the wireless. ya need to see what wireless card/chipset ya got and  research it.. (or try some live cd's_)
[12:50] <Dev05> phuzz, Search there what you need.
[12:50] <Dimar> Wifi card is the evil dreaded Broadcomm chipset
[12:50] <erUSUL> ThrashJazzAssass: yes. try 'aplay file.wav'
[12:51] <Dimar> Both the internal and the cool long distance antenna
[12:51] <yairgo`> Seveas how do i do such a thing when all i have running is windows?
[12:51] <Dimar> Thats what Knoppix bummed me out.
[12:51] <Seveas> !iso
[12:51] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:51] <Dimar> Tried myself to write drivers for it but it was a dismul failure
[12:51] <Seveas> yairgo`, last url in ubotus message
[12:51] <erUSUL> yairgo`: there are md5sum binaries for windows
[12:51] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is it possible to copy over a pre-created install from a normal computer to the hard drive?
[12:51] <dr_willis> Dimar,  with the latest and niftyiest stuff  a lot of times it takes linux a few months to catch up.
[12:51] <yairgo`> !iso
[12:51] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:51] <Dimar> I just know that the Sprint card works in Mac, so I was hoping maybe it would on this OS
[12:52] <dink_> dimar: it may what does google say
[12:52] <dr_willis> Dimar,  if the company made official drivers or released specs.... but who knows with sprint.
 thanks for the help but its like the tray icons for programs. so you can close them or minimize to tray.... the tray icons are gone.
[12:52] <pezz> lo, anyone with a sagem fast 800 modem?
[12:52] <Dimar> I'd love to ditch Windoze for everything but my games, lol
[12:52] <mistform> hackmaster: it's always possible to overwrite something on a hard drive
[12:52] <HackMaster> mistform, what do you mean?
[12:52] <dr_willis> Games are for the weak!
[12:52] <dr_willis> :P
[12:52] <erUSUL> Dimar: support for broadcom cards entered the kernel recently. you can build your own kernel to support the card
[12:52] <Dimar> I was thinking about putting it on a Sandisc would make the OS put right up :P
[12:52] <skitzomike> does anyone know why nessus would give me a segmentation fault every time click scan
[12:52] <pezz> play quake Dimar ;p
[12:52] <Dimar> Sweet!
[12:52] <Seveas> erUSUL, dapper already supports them
[12:53] <pezz> thats all u nedd :)
[12:53] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: get a second HD plugged up with a standard Ubuntu install, and run dd on it
[12:53] <Winball> quake3 crashes after 10 min. Someone known with this issue?
[12:53] <Dimar> Didn't know that. I've been busy developing 3 sites.
[12:53] <Dev05> phuzz, Is the "Notification Area" applet in your Panel?
[12:53] <HackMaster> mistform, could i put the disk into another computer, run the install on that computer, then move the hard drive back?
[12:53] <BuntyBounty> Anyone tried Flash9 / Firefox with Wine?   works great for me, but I don't get sound
[12:53] <Dimar> I do play quake Pezz. but my empire earth doesn't run on anything other then the evil  mickeysoft lol
[12:53] <erUSUL> Seveas: ooouch! i asumed that it does not becouse people still has problems with them...
[12:53] <HackMaster> mistform, yea, that works. will it re-detect the system properities?
[12:54] <cpk2> Dimar: have you tried wine or cedega?
[12:54] <Seveas> erUSUL, the problem is that it requires people to download firmware
[12:54] <Seveas> so it supports them, but it's not an OOTB experience
 no, and i think thats what i need to google. thanks i didnt know what to call it. i think i found something on it
[12:54] <pezz> anyone has a sagem fast800 modem here? :<
[12:55] <Dimar> Tried Wine hadn't heard of Cedega
[12:55] <erUSUL> Seveas: all i can say is... buy a ralink 2500 pci works like a charm in all kernels i used... and is cheap (conceptronic) ;)
[12:55] <BuntyBounty> Cedega is WineX ( transgaming.com )
[12:55] <facugaich> pezz: is that one an USB, used for DSL?
[12:55] <Dimar> I just decided to try my hand again at something other then webservers when I saw the story about the OS on digg
[12:55] <cpk2> cedega is supposed to cost like 5 dollars or something but focuses pretty much just on games
[12:55] <ba5e> Dev05: I have no idea!
[12:55] <Dev05> phuzz, OK... If I were you, I'd restart the PC and the programs.
 sh!t that got it thanks mate
[12:55] <cpk2> and i think most people dont pay for it
[12:55] <minerale> Could anyone help me with this, a certain flash video always makes my firefox crash... I'm not sure it it's my fault
[12:55] <Dimar> 5 dollars to tell Bill Gates to die? I'm for it
[12:55] <mistform> !xchat
[12:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:55] <Dimar> lol
[12:55] <BuntyBounty> cp2k: there is still a opensource free version of cedega
[12:55] <HackMaster> mistform, yea, that works. will it re-detect the system properties ?
[12:56] <pezz> usb facugaich
[12:56] <Dev05> phuzz, You're welcome!
[12:56] <mistform> yeah
[12:56] <len> !postgre
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about postgre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:56] <yairgo`> how can the download be wrong?
[12:56] <len> !postgres
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about postgres - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:56] <Dev05> ba5e, It mounted just fine with Ubuntu, I don't know...
[12:56] <pezz> facugaich dsl of course
[12:56] <yairgo`> the md5sum did not work, but i downloaded it from the site?
[12:56] <Winball> What's temp3 in 'sensors' ?
[12:57] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have one more question, which distro should i install?
[12:57] <Dev05> ba5e, And the volumes also mount on SuSE.
[12:57] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: its a very old computer, 96 meg of ram
[12:57] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: Xubuntu
[12:57] <facugaich> pezz: are you trying to make t work?
[12:57] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: My 64 MB RAM laptop runs it beautifully
[12:57] <dr_willis> Winball,  depends on your  Motherboard.
[12:57] <pezz> facugaich unfortunaly.. ye
[12:57] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: It also has all the Ubuntu goodness in it!
[12:57] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i use gnome, will i be able to figure it out?
[12:58] <facugaich> pezz: I have 'ueagle-atm' drivers, and I think they also worked for those kind of modems, not sure. Have you tried googling?
[12:58] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:58] <javaJake> :)
[12:58] <tengil> where is the info on the gateway being used?
[12:58] <cowmilk> 	can i remove the hard drive from one box and transplant it to my other box?
[12:58] <javaJake> Easy as pie
[12:58] <pezz> facugaich yup of course, even installed them
[12:58] <cowmilk> one box is PII. Other one is PIII.
[12:58] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: will that still move quite fast?
[12:58] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  ive dont it befor.. with some good success... and a few annoying problems. :P
[12:58] <mistform> hackmaster: I know hardware, software is my weak side ;)
[12:58] <abo> anyone knows a program that shows graphically the usage of my disk, I think there is one for KDE
[12:58] <pezz> facugaich but then i couldn't get further, and the modem remains undected it seems
[12:59] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: its just gonna play music and stuff from amaroK
[12:59] <Winball> dr_willis So I guess it's gfxcard since it's around 70'c
[12:59] <dr_willis> abo,  theres several disk monitors out.. kde has one that does nice pie type charts.
[12:59] <dr_willis> abo,  but i forget its name
[12:59] <cowmilk> dr_willis: how can i do it in such a way as to avoid those problems?
[12:59] <facugaich> pezz: I can tell you what I did with mine... lemme remember
[12:59] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  get lucky
[12:59] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is amarok a good media player/manager?
[12:59] <yairgo`> since the md5checksum doesnt work on the desktop or alternate cd's that i downloaded from the website, what do i do?
[12:59] <pezz> facugaich: ok
[12:59] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: mmm, dunno
[12:59] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  if the mb's got identical chipsets -  was my problem ages ago.
[12:59] <HackMaster> i like it because it has a central MySQL database
[12:59] <mistform> never used amarok
[12:59] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: never done that sortathing
[01:00] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[01:00] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  one was a differnt chipset - so a module dident get loaded right.. had to fix it manually.  then ya got the Other cards that may need reconfigured
[01:00] <ailean> someone name a fave general system monitor with temperatures etc please
[01:00] <pezz> facugaich: answer in pm plz
[01:00] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: do you guys play music?
[01:00] <Dev05> HackMaster, Yes, it is.
[01:00] <mistform> I do, alot
[01:00] <mistform> but am yet to on Linux :P
[01:00] <len> javaJake or anyone: I got a usb sound system from phillips (mcm595) and my linux detects it as a sound device. But it doesnt work. Do u have any Ideia what it migth be?
[01:00] <HackMaster> Dev05, you like amarok?
[01:01] <Dev05> HackMaster, If you want to play doesn't matter what, get yourslef MPlayer, otherwise, amaroK is great.
[01:01] <minerale> anyone know the difference between xv, x11, gl, gl2 in mplayers 'video out' codec... im not sure what to choose
[01:01] <cpk2> ailean: i like gkrellm
[01:01] <HackMaster> dev05, i have 34GB of music, and i need a good front end to manage it
[01:01] <Dev05> HackMaster, Yeah, go with amaroK. No doubt.
[01:01] <HackMaster> dev05, awesome. thanks
[01:02] <devhen> HackMaster, you might also try Rythmbox or Banshee
[01:02] <Dev05> HackMaster, devhen, Yeah, Banshee is nice too but it's still in a very early stage.
[01:02] <yairgo`> since the md5checksum doesnt work on the desktop or alternate cd's that i downloaded from the website, what do i do?
[01:02] <HackMaster> tried Rythmbox, and i dont think it had a good management features
[01:02] <cowmilk> can i do the transplanting of the harddrive when I've got some stuff on it, or should i do it when it's got nothing?
[01:02] <ailean> ty cpk2
[01:02] <abo> dr_willis, kdirstat, no?
[01:03] <facugaich> pezz: you mean a pm through IRC ? or ubuntu forums maybe?
[01:03] <pezz> facugaich u can see my pms?
[01:03] <dr_willis> abo,  that sounds famuler
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> can I apt-get VLC?
[01:03] <shawnr_> HackMaster, amarok would be the best but you need kde libs. Maybe Quod Libet?
[01:03] <dr_willis> help-the-n00b,  yes.
[01:03] <gr33npho3nix> hmmm it looks like i had apm and not acpi
[01:03] <pezz> no irc :)
[01:03] <facugaich> pezz: no, are you registered?
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> yay!
[01:03] <pezz> not yet !
[01:03] <shawnr_> help-the-n00b, apt-get install vlc
[01:03] <dr_willis> !info kdirstat
[01:03] <ubotu> kdirstat: graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 267 kB, installed size 872 kB
[01:03] <gr33npho3nix> which would explain why my power button doesn't do crap
[01:03] <HackMaster> i have the KDE libs installed and everything
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> sudo?
[01:03] <pezz> first time here
[01:03] <shawnr_> help-the-n00b, yup
[01:03] <facugaich> pezz: /msg nickserv help register
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> lol
[01:03] <pezz> ty
[01:03] <HackMaster> it works great, but i was just wondering if there was a gnome version
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> frgot!
[01:04] <shawnr_> Hackma, no amarok is kde
[01:04] <HackMaster> i know
[01:04] <cpk2> ailean: provided you have the right modules loaded gkrellm should display pretty much anything you could want
[01:04] <chris86wm> after installing keytouch, I lost the volume gui. is there anyway to get that back?
[01:04] <HackMaster> thats why i was leary of using it
[01:04] <shawnr_> HackMaster, try quod libet, or maybe bmpx
[01:04] <Dev05> HackMaster, Banshee is GTK# based.
[01:04] <tja> can anyone help me with getting sound to work on a thinkpad x21? apparently I need to disable ACPI first but it doesnt seem to work!?
[01:05] <HackMaster> banshee seems very similar to rythmbox
[01:05] <shawnr_> HackMaster, bmpx has an awsome library function but its still early devel and not avail in the ubuntu repositories
[01:05] <HackMaster> well, i cant ever seem to install anything thats not in the repositories
[01:06] <abo> realplayer can play all my rmm files, how can I play them with totem ?
[01:06] <blinker> ooh ooh. I've got a good question - where the hell is the option to turn touchpad mouseclicking off? =p
[01:06] <SGL> Is there a site where you can find a repository for a certain package??? I am looking for openssl-devel
[01:06] <shawnr_> HackMaster, you can just add the bmpx repositories to your sources list
[01:06] <HackMaster> hell, i tried to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system, but i cant get it to work
[01:06] <HackMaster> i will look it up
[01:06] <erUSUL> SGL: is libssl-deve
[01:06] <Dev05> ba5e, So, no idea then???
[01:06] <shawnr_> HackMaster, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMP:_About
[01:06] <Gun_Smoke> Still having trouble with icon theme:   I following the instructions from http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q4.  I tried the doing it through terminal and failed. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19341 .  And I don't understand the Archive Manager method.  I could not locate the theme folder. ?
[01:07] <SGL> erUSUL: thanks. I'll look for that one instead
[01:07] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, you don't un archive theme files
[01:07] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, you just drag them into the list with the other themes
[01:07] <ailean> cpk2, i can't get it to display my CPU temp
[01:07] <NsOmNiAc> anyone out there seen an install for Englightenment .17
[01:07] <ailean> cpk2, i had some probs with that today (temps of above 100C)
[01:08] <Gun_Smoke> shawnr_:  Even icon themes?
[01:08] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, yes
[01:08] <ailean> NsOmNiAc, why do you want that?
[01:08] <SGL> erUSUL: nothing found!
[01:08] <NsOmNiAc> I ilke E
[01:08] <NsOmNiAc> err like even
[01:08] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, prefs>themes>theme details> icons tab
[01:08] <ailean> NsOmNiAc, I could never work it
[01:08] <HackMaster> anyone know how to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system?
[01:08] <Gun_Smoke> shawnr_:  Thanks, check it out.
[01:08] <Phenax> ailean: Make sure you have the correct hardware monitoring support, and some CPU's can live with temperatures over 100c... maybe make sure it's not the real temp?
[01:08] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke,  drag the tar into that list to install
[01:08] <NsOmNiAc> I haven't tried .17 but I love .16
[01:09] <Phenax> .17 is good but the CVS is almost always unstable
[01:09] <ailean> Phenax, not any more no :) around 50C now :)
[01:09] <Phenax> And there's no stable releases so you have to grab it out of the CVS
[01:09] <majestikm> Can somebody help me with my lilo.conf?  I'm tri-booting and need it to boot both ubuntu and windows.
[01:09] <NsOmNiAc> it looks very pretty
[01:09] <ailean> Phenax, it was shutting off at 110C though.  that's hot!
[01:09] <SGL> erUSUL: I can't find that
[01:09] <Phenax> ailean: Yeah, I suggest you get some Artic Silver 5 thermal grease and a new heatsink, lol.
[01:09] <Phenax> ailean: Mine generally stays under 60c
[01:10] <Phenax> A64 3500+ OC'd to 3.0ghz, running on an air heatsink
[01:10] <ailean> Phenax, no, i removed the carpet of vacuum crap sitting on the heatsink and it was fine! :)
[01:10] <Gun_Smoke> shawnr_:  Thanks, you rock.. I have actually wasted the better part of a week figuring this out.. I need to learn a lot!
[01:10] <Phenax> rofl
[01:10] <robertj> Any thermal paste is pretty good if its properly applied
[01:10] <mistform> phenax: is it a stock HS?
[01:10] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, we all start somewhere
[01:10] <Gun_Smoke> lol
[01:10] <ailean> Phenax, i'm very wary of going near the CPU and I shouldn be
[01:10] <Phenax> mistform: No, it's a Scythe heatsink (Not exact model)
[01:10] <ailean> i nearly killed it
[01:10] <Phenax> mistform: Cost me $40 or so
[01:11] <robertj> Most small shops will comp you a tube of a name brand sampler if you buy something else though, and those come in single-use plungers that are very convenient
[01:11] <Phenax> I can
[01:11] <Winball> I have like 250 GB of unused, not partitioned space left. How can I fill my linuxpartition?
[01:11] <Phenax> robertj: I actually noticed 4c off the load temps and about nothing off the idle temps with AS5, totally worth $5
[01:11] <HackMaster> anyone know how to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system?
[01:11] <Phenax> $5 and you can use it about 5 times. I let my buddy use it and there's still a good amount left.
[01:11] <robertj> Phenax: I buy low-end anually so I don't have heat problems
[01:12] <mistform> phenax: I always go with Thermaltake or Zalman
[01:12] <Intangir> badass i got it working
[01:12] <robertj> They will usually give you Thermaltake
[01:12] <rodietze> how to install Aptana on UBuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ? :S
[01:12] <robertj> evreybody has it on hand
[01:12] <Intangir> i had to use vnc4server
[01:12] <Intangir> and use a securitytypes=none option ;)
[01:12] <Intangir> later
[01:12] <ailean> it's fairly normal to own this thermal paste then? :)
[01:12] <ailean> maybe i should get some
[01:12] <rodietze> tried everything since the swt till the export mozilla five home ..
[01:13] <Winball> CPU Temp:    +22C with zalman cnps9500led
[01:13] <Gorbulas|iBook> 22C?
[01:13] <Phenax> CPU Temp:  +36.5 C  (high = +45.0 C, hyst = +40.0 C)
[01:13] <ailean> that's cooler than this room!
[01:14] <ailean> and i live in Scotland
[01:14] <ttyfscker> hrm
[01:14] <Phenax> Yeah, same here.
[01:14] <Gorbulas|iBook> that's cooler than the ambient temperature has been here
[01:14] <ttyfscker> does mrproper have relation to mr clean?
[01:14] <Phenax> My CPU usually idles around 35-37c and loads around 48c
[01:14] <Gorbulas|iBook> maybe ey has two cpus
[01:14] <Gorbulas|iBook> and ey only uses one
[01:14] <ttyfscker> i read that Meister Proper in german was the same thing as mr. clean
[01:14] <ttyfscker> im just curious where that dang mrproper comes from..
[01:15] <Phenax> My CPU fan is plugged into a Molex, no RPM monitor lol
[01:15] <HackMaster> anyone know how to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system?
[01:15] <Phenax> I rigged in a much more robust fan that used molex, should buy an adapter.
[01:15] <mickskyvitch> I have a usb hard drive that I want to format to FAT32 from ubuntu, how can I do this ?
[01:16] <Gorbulas|iBook> mickskyvitch: I think Linux calls if vfat
[01:16] <erUSUL> mickskyvitch: with gparted
[01:16] <Phenax> mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever
[01:16] <mickskyvitch> gpaRTED wont let me
[01:16] <Phenax> Providing you have dos utilities
[01:16] <mickskyvitch> erUSUL it is ntfs now
[01:16] <Phenax> dosfstools I think
[01:17] <Phenax> mickskyvitch: FAT32 can be read and written by Linux and Windows
[01:17] <Phenax> making it the ideal OS to have portable storage as
[01:17] <Gorbulas|iBook> so can ntfs if you do it right
[01:17] <ailean> no
[01:17] <mickskyvitch> yes but the drive is ntfs right now Phenax
[01:17] <ailean> too risky
[01:17] <Phenax> mickskyvitch: mkfs.vfat /dev/location SHOULD do it.
[01:17] <devhen> dont try to write to an NTFS disk in linux
[01:18] <shawnr_> best to format to fat32
[01:18] <devhen> yes
[01:18] <Phenax> devhen: With ntfs-3g you can get full read/write but you need a kernel module
[01:18] <Gorbulas|iBook> I'm going to be writing to ntfs disks tomorrow
[01:18] <Gorbulas|iBook> stupid windows virus
[01:18] <erUSUL> mickskyvitch: so?
[01:18] <devhen> Phenax, thx ill look into that.
[01:18] <Phenax> mickskyvitch: mkfs.vfat will erase EVERYTHING on it, so be warned
[01:19] <mickskyvitch> not getting naywhere here
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> well, it won't "erase"
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> it will just make it harder to find
[01:19] <mickskyvitch> I tried and it said contains mounted drive
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> unmount it then
[01:19] <Phenax> umount /dev/location
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> check the output of the mount command
[01:19] <Centaur5> Would the correct syntax for creating a soft link from a script in /etc/init.d to /etc/rc2.d/S12xorg_conf be sudo ln -sT /etc/init.d/xorg_conf /etc/rc2.d/S12xorg_conf?
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> `mount`
[01:20] <Frankenstein> hi, i found ndiswrapper along with a GUI frontend to use it... i choose to use my windows driver as it asked and it now says it is there but i cant get the wireless usb adapter to show in the networking config... what could i do
[01:20] <kon> use module-assistant, load ndiswrapper. Everything will work
[01:20] <chris86wm> the multimedia keys on my laptop dont seem to work properly. is there any way of getting them to work without using keytouch?
[01:20] <Dev05> Frankenstein, Which GUI did you get?
[01:20] <Frankenstein> Dev05: i used ndisgtk
[01:20] <shawnr_> chris86wm, which laptop
[01:21] <Frankenstein> im running dapper too
[01:21] <chris86wm> shawnr_, inspiron 6000
[01:21] <chris86wm> shawnr_, keytouch fixes the problem, but it hijacks the vol up, vol down gui
[01:21] <Gorbulas|iBook> use the source! lol
[01:22] <shawnr_> chris86wm, try this
[01:22] <chris86wm> k
[01:22] <dnkidjit> chris86wm: i got my multimedia keys working using lineakd
[01:22] <shawnr_> chris86wm, prefs>keyboard>layouts>keyboard model [...] > look for Dell Inspiron 6xxx/8xxx
[01:23] <Cainus> hey... anyone know how I can do "apt-get install irssi"?  it keeps telling me it can't find it...
[01:23] <Frankenstein> Cainus: sudo apt-cache search irssi
[01:24] <erUSUL> !sources > Cainus
[01:24] <chris86wm> shawnr_ i dont see my laptop listed
[01:24] <tengil> i want to start a program in a screen at bootup and i do this with screen -dmS blipp /home/krasse/script.sh. this gives me a screen. however when ctrl+c to kill the program i instead kill the screen. If i manually start a screen and then start script.sh and then hit ctrl+c it does exist the program. anyone  how i can get this to work in my automatically started screen as well?
[01:24] <Cainus> hmm yeah... it doesn't show up in apt-cache search
[01:24] <chris86wm> shawnr_ there is a "dell" though
[01:24] <kon> tengil, what about your modules?
[01:24] <tengil> kon: modules?
[01:25] <shawnr_> chris86wm, keep looking its in my list
[01:25] <demon01> I bought a pocketPC dell axim x51 and I don't know how to sync it with my ubuntu 6.06 machine can anyone help me?
[01:25] <erUSUL> tengil: with screen you mean gnu screen the program? use a .screenrc
[01:25] <chris86wm> shawnr_ sry, its under Laptop/Notebook :P
[01:26] <tengil> erUSUL: what do i need to put in .screenrc?
[01:26] <erUSUL> tengil: i will upload mine to pastebin.ca wait a minute
[01:26] <dr_willis> man screen :)
[01:26] <tengil> erUSUL: thanks alot
[01:26] <chris86wm> shawnr_, just pick U.S. English?
[01:26] <mickskyvitch> thanks all usb drive now vFAT  huurah
[01:27] <tengil> dr_willis: i have read man screen for quite a while to come up with that screen command that starts it all at bootup
[01:27] <erUSUL> tengil: http://pastebin.ca/109286
[01:27] <tengil> i just dont see why its different to manually start the screen and then hit ctrl+c then it is to automatically start a screen and detach it at bootup
[01:27] <tengil> erUSUL: cool thanks
[01:28] <dr_willis> tengil,  ive seen it mentioned on some screen tutorials and so forth.. i had it set where rtorrent would run.
[01:28] <tengil> dr_willis: ah and you messed around with the .screenrc first?
[01:28] <Frankenstein> ok, i just used module-assistant and intalled the ndiswrapper, i installed the windows driver using that gui frontend and still nothing works, it doesnt show up in the list
[01:29] <chris86wm> shawnr_, alright, I set it up but it doesnt seem to have worked
[01:29] <shawnr_> chris86wm, try restarting x
[01:29] <dr_willis> tengil,  i googled for tutorials first. :P and printed some out.. and read about it.. heh
[01:30] <tengil> dr_willis: ok
[01:30] <dr_willis> whats sad - is there are not a lot of good screen tutorials..
[01:30] <chris86wm> shawnr_, I love you man!
[01:30] <dr_willis> they all seem to cover the 'basics' but skimp on the more powerful features
[01:30] <shawnr_> chris86wm, work?
[01:30] <chris86wm> shawnr_, thanks soo much
[01:30] <chris86wm> shawnr_, works perfectly
[01:31] <shawnr_> chris86wm, good 4 you. np
[01:32] <tengil> erUSUL: oops i never seen it opening several screens in one window before like this one looks like
[01:32] <tengil> how do i switch between them?
[01:32] <dr_willis> tengil,  thats always part of the tutorials that get skipped. :P
[01:32] <dr_willis> the multi windows feature
[01:32] <dr_willis> 'twin' is an interesting alternative to screen also
[01:32] <erUSUL> tengil: thats the purpose of screen have multiple windows or screens... is Crtl+a <number>
[01:33] <Farhad> I installed realPlayer 10 from real.com/linux , now ,  how I can add realplayer command to the shell?
[01:33] <dr_willis> tengil, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen   seems to have some good screen tips
[01:34] <shawnr_> farh, try "real" and "realplay"
[01:34] <erUSUL> Farhad: if you instaled it correctly it shoulb be in your path already
[01:34] <tengil> ok im gonna mess around a little and see if it wanna load my script like this
[01:34] <dr_willis> wow - thats the best screen tutoria site ive seen.. severa example .screenrcs
[01:35] <tengil> dr_willis: thanks ill bookmark that one
[01:35] <Farhad> that is works, erUSUL , i installed that with ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:35] <dr_willis> tengil,  also  http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/screen/screen_toc.html    :)
[01:35] <Farhad> and set its path : /usr/local/realPlayer
[01:35] <mistform> what's the most updates you've had at once?
[01:35] <mistform> I just got 132... gonna take 19 minutes at 164kb/s
[01:36] <Farhad> erUSUL, how can I add a executable file to path
[01:37] <dr_willis> !path
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about path - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:38] <erUSUL> Farhad: do a link to the exec in /usr/local/bin 'sudo ln -s /usr/local/real.../exec /usr/local/bin/exec'
[01:38] <tengil> unfortunately starting my ./script.rc within the .bashrc file didnt help either. if i have that screen open and hit ctrl+c it closes that screen instead of the program. if i however manually open an extra screen while having the screen  open and start script.sh ctrl+c will close my program in script.sh instead of the scree....
[01:40] <blinker> can someone tell me where to find settings for laptop touchpads? I can't seem to find the option that turns off touchpad 'clicking'
[01:40] <dr_willis> kde put a little synaptic  touchpad icon in my kicker panel for me. :P
[01:41] <dr_willis> which suprised me
[01:41] <Farhad> erUSUL, thnx
[01:43] <demon01> anyone knows something about pocketpc and ubuntu?
[01:45] <lmosher> What does it mean when adept tells me "break" when I request an install? How do I fix this?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: My first guess would be a problem with your sources list
[01:46] <help-the-n00b> how do i listen to feeds w/ vlc?
[01:47] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: Well I was told to add some debs.. I'm trying to install the latest XGL...
[01:47] <help-the-n00b> ?
[01:47] <pihl> When I try to install ubuntu I choose the first alternative when to partition the harddrive (resize master) and slides it to 27.7 gb. I press forward and it says "Failed to create enough space for installation"
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: What debs
[01:48] <asterus> it occurs with me too with fedora in same case
[01:48] <pihl> someone that knows what the problem is or know a way around?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: How many megs are you giving ubuntu
[01:48] <asterus> i dicovered that was my CD - crashd...
[01:48] <pihl> about 30
[01:48] <pihl> gv
[01:48] <pihl> gb*
[01:48] <tengil> dr_willis: are you actually sure i can get a program start in a screen automatically but not killing the screen when doing ctrl+c?
[01:49] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: "quinn's" debs for xgl
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: What is the format of that partition and what is the other OS
[01:49] <pihl> ntfs windows xp
 if y'a wanna run a program in background uses ctrl+z; if wanna return to it uses the command "fg"
[01:49] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: brb i found an updated guide... w/ different debs and whatnot. I'll try that firxt then come back if I run into issues. ty
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: there is a reason they call it experimental bleeding edge.
[01:50] <help-the-n00b> ?
[01:50] <goonies> is there anyway to extract an exe file on nix?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:50] <tengil> asterus: no i want to be able to kill the program within a screen without killing the screen
[01:50] <help-the-n00b> how do i listen to feeds w/ vlc?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: How much free space do you have in XP.
[01:51] <pihl> 2 secs
[01:51] <pihl> 62 gb free space out of 93gb
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: so it is refusing to overwrite your xp
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> select a smaller partition sive
[01:52] <pihl> k
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> IT just saved your you know what..
[01:52] <pihl> oh :P
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> See what I am saying
[01:53] <Linkiboy> I need help on installation... kind of
[01:53] <mcphail> goonies: by extract, you mean unzip?
[01:53] <pihl> I'm a complete noob when it comes to harddrives, partition etc.
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> i gotz a question
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> nobody in #gaim will help
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: You are in the right place
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> mabe you guys no
[01:53] <pihl> :D
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> :-P
[01:53] <pihl> how do I select a smaller partition sive then? :P
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: yes 20
[01:54] <ShadowLurker> Okay, so, does anyone know where Gaim stores it's chat logs?
[01:54] <Linkiboy> Umm... on step 6 of installing... it syas it will delete all the partitions i have not selected...
[01:54] <ShadowLurker> nvm
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Always leave at least 10% free for XP (minimum)
[01:54] <Linkiboy> does this mean it will wipe my harddrive?
[01:54] <pihl> I tried with 9,1 gb - still the same error
[01:54] <asterus> i need help in configurating net for ubuntu. i need to configure my ethernet to work in 10 mbps without autonegotiate. i tried "ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 autoneg off" but in the it still not working with me. with command shall i use to know in what speed my ethernet is working?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: back out of that for a sec
[01:55] <Ronz> pihl, what problem are you having? just logged
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: what are your existing partitions and OS?
[01:55] <pihl> I get the error "Failed to create enough space for installation" when I try to partition
[01:55] <Linkiboy> partition1: recovery
[01:55] <Linkiboy> parttion2: windowsXP
[01:55] <Linkiboy> Partiton3: ext3
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Ronz: he was trying to resize an XP partition smaller than the data in it
[01:56] <Linkiboy> partiton4: swap
[01:56] <Linkiboy> ext3 is empty
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: Delete the ext3 and the swap...
[01:56] <Linkiboy> ok i have to write this down
[01:56] <Linkiboy> cause im on widnows
[01:57] <Linkiboy> my ubuntu internet will take forvever to conf
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: then go back a step and let the installer use all unallocated space
[01:57] <Ronz> pihl, if you can still boot into windows, i woulc reccomend using partition magic to resize your win partition. you can do that within windows, and you can also see where the data is...its a very nice tool. =)
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: Do you have PM8
[01:57] <Linkiboy> Since i dont know what that is.. probably not
[01:57] <Recks> How would I mount a drive when I try to access it it gives me the following error
[01:57] <Recks> error: device /dev/sdd5 is not removable
[01:57] <Recks> error: could not execute pmount
[01:57] <pihl> sure
[01:58] <Linkiboy> im new to linux...
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Ronz: PM8 is what I use.  Just not cheap..
[01:58] <pihl> (it's the laptop next to me I'm installing on, so I'll just stick around here with this one :P)
[01:58] <Linkiboy> What is PM8?
[01:58] <Recks> Partition Magic
[01:58] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: I think the issues is I have some package 1.5 and it required 1.6, which probably isn't out for amd64 yet. How do i override a dependency?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Partition Magic 8
[01:58] <Linkiboy> o
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> 8 or newer handles NTFS and ext3
[01:58] <Linkiboy> i Use gparted for partitioning
[01:58] <Ronz> Jack_Sparrow, *cough* torrent
[01:58] <Recks> So anyone with the mounting the drive problem
[01:58] <Recks> error: device /dev/sdd5 is not removable
[01:58] <Recks> error: could not execute pmount
[01:59] <pihl> partition magic is norton, right?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:59] <Ronz> no pihl
[01:59] <Ronz> PM is...
[01:59] <Ronz> i forget, lol
[01:59] <Ronz> but its not symantec
[01:59] <pihl> wait
[01:59] <Linkiboy> alright, jack_sparrow, should I try to install again with your new tip?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: what is the format of the drive you want to mount
[01:59] <tehuti> hey I'm trying to set up an ADSL connection with pppoeconf, but the "DSL" light goes out whenever I start pppoeconf and I get an ""sorry I scanned one interface but the access conentrator of your provider did not respond" error
[01:59] <asterus> PowerQuest Partition Magic...
[01:59] <piihl> I'm registered now
[01:59] <Ronz> powerquest, thats it!
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: yes..
[01:59] <Linkiboy> Alright...
[02:00] <Recks> rofl partition magic is symantec
[02:00] <Linkiboy> if i wipe my HD im blaming it on you
[02:00] <Linkiboy> :P
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> You will be fine
[02:01] <tehuti> does this mean my connection with my DSL provider isn't ready yet?
[02:02] <mickskyvitch> once again thank you for solving my problems
[02:02] <Recks> Can anyone help me figure out why my Hard Drive won't mount
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: what is the format of the drive you want to mount
[02:02] <Recks> NTFS
[02:02] <Recks> I can access it through the shell
[02:02] <tehuti> the "DSL" light on the modem just disappears whenever I run pppoeconf what's up with that?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: use the diskmpounter script
[02:03] <tehuti> no connection with Windoze using the supplied EZ-connect CD
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:03] <Recks> but I wanna just drag and drop the files to my root drive or be able to use the files off of the drive itself
[02:03] <tehuti> either
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: Not recomended
[02:03] <Recks> lol why not?
[02:03] <Recks> lol
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: to write to ntfs
[02:03] <Recks> I don't want to write to it
[02:03] <Recks> just read from it
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Then use the script
[02:04] <Recks> okay
[02:04] <Recks> and do I just add this to a text file or?
[02:04] <Recks> nm...
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> go to that link, click on file save, save to desktop and follow the instructions
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I'll stay here
[02:04] <tehuti> is this a problem with my software or a problem with the ADSL provider? anyone?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: If you do not want to see an icon for that dfrive on your desktop let me know and I will walk you through that
[02:05] <Recks> what do I save the file as?
[02:05] <Recks> cause it defaults to .htm
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: also, the script says you do not need to restart X but many people did need to restart X before the icons appeared
[02:06] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know which out of gnome and kde takes less system resources?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: should be fine
[02:06] <skitzomike> does anyone know why nessus would give me a segmentation fault every time click scan
[02:06] <Recks> jkk
[02:06] <Recks> kk
[02:06] <JoshX> hello.. could it be that ubuntu 6.06-Server bugs with a software raid mirror setup?
[02:06] <shammy> I have all of my music moved onto another harddrive, but it's NTFS, how would I go about mounting it to access the music?
[02:06] <JoshX> i just tried installing it and it crashes on first boot
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: read the couple lines of help on that script
[02:07] <JoshX> stating: eval: 1: 8: not found
[02:07] <JoshX> mknod: hda : file exists
[02:07] <Roflsauce> Hi
[02:07] <battie> Hi
[02:08] <Roflsauce> Where can I get ubuntu commands? I'm a newb
[02:08] <secleinteer> does any1 know which out of gnome and kde takes less system resources?
[02:08] <Roflsauce> Just got it today
[02:08] <JoshX> and then mdadm: failed to open /dev/md? : no such file (4 times)
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: What commands?
[02:08] <JoshX> anyone have any idea?
[02:08] <Roflsauce> My friend told me something about "app get" or something
[02:08] <Roflsauce> Commands like that
[02:08] <shammy> how long does it take to update to dapper from breezy?
[02:08] <Roflsauce> To get lets say MSN Messenger, I'm  having trouble getting it
[02:08] <battie> Does anyone know where I can find a list of hardware compatible with Ubuntu.  I'm about to order parts for a new PC. Thanks!
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: yes, or synaptic...
[02:08] <Recks> I see the icon in my system though...
[02:09] <Roflsauce> Synaptic?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: system admin synaptic
[02:09] <Roflsauce> Oh ok,
[02:09] <Roflsauce> don't I gotta type in something?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: Please explain?
[02:09] <Ronz> hey...ive got a 5.1 surround sound card, but cant get my back 2 speakers to work...any idea's?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: click, click, click
[02:09] <Recks> I hjave the drive in my computer directory
[02:10] <Roflsauce> ok
[02:10] <Recks> Just can't access it
[02:10] <mcphail> Recks: your NTFS partition is mounted if you can access it via the shell
[02:10] <Recks> it says error: device /dev/sdd5 is not removable
[02:10] <Recks> error: could not execute pmount
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: did you run that script
[02:10] <Recks> not yet lol
[02:10] <Recks> just thought it odd I could see it before hand
[02:10] <Recks> lol
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:10] <sudomania4> how do I know if my cd player can play .ogg cds?
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: Jump to a terminal screen
[02:10] <Recks> kk
[02:11] <Recks> and just run it
[02:11] <Recks> gotcha ;-)
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> probably cd Desktop
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> then sudo bash diskmounter
[02:11] <battie> Oh, I found it in the wiki.  Silly me.
[02:11] <sun_> hi how do you get the email monitor on ion3?
[02:12] <Kenotic> Does any one know anything about maildrop?
[02:12] <dibblego> hello, I have a problem installing the nvidia driver described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1319914#post1319914
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: My only concern is the file type.
[02:12] <myv> hi, kind of a stupid question, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to extract a .rar with a password?  basically it gives me an error (Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/denny/Desktop/real_life_pics.rar (password incorrect ?)) but it doesn't give me a prompt to enter a password.
[02:12] <Recks> kk
[02:12] <Recks> lol
[02:12] <Recks> it's ntfs and just has media on it
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: FIrefox saved it
[02:13] <Recks> nothing that will try to re-write back to the drive
[02:13] <Recks> yea
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> fine
[02:13] <Recks> It ran still
[02:13] <Recks> as .htm
[02:13] <dibblego> myv, rar | grep password
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> fine
[02:13] <Daynah> Guy heys. :( It's me again. My computer doesn't want me to watch my stolen Doctor Who mpg files. VLC stops playing after 2 seconds and Totem wont rewind... and I watched about 20 minutes in and had a roomate inturrupt, so as we speak, I'm letting it go normal speed back to that point. You guys know what I should do?
[02:13] <myv> thanks alot dibblego
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> it wont let you write unless you accept that warning
[02:13] <Recks> and I can now access it
[02:13] <Recks> yea I don't need to lol
[02:13] <Recks> I said no
[02:13] <Recks> lol
[02:13] <dibblego> myv, actually better, unrar | grep password
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: restart X if you dont see icons on desktop
[02:13] <Recks> so do I need to run that everytime?
[02:13] <Recks> I got it
[02:14] <myv> I'll try that out.
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> No, you are done
[02:14] <Daynah> Myv, I looked at your name and thought, "Holy cow! Did I have that bad of a typo and named myself 'myv'?!"
[02:14] <brett_tolbert> hey guys
[02:14] <Recks> how would I make my cd-roms work, I have a dvd-rom that won't play the DVD in the drive atm...
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: you can toss the script
[02:14] <Recks> kk so it's forever mounted now?
[02:14] <dibblego> why does the nvidia driver cause a kernel panic? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1319914#post1319914
[02:14] <myv> lol
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: first guess is how you are trying to access it..
[02:14] <myv> Myv = short for Miyavi, sorry. >_>
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: You cant just double click on it
[02:14] <rexykik> dibblego, the nvidia driver or the nv driver?
[02:15] <dibblego> rexykik, nvidia (nv works fine)
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: forever mounted
[02:15] <Daynah> Myv, it was just funny that I'm sl blonde and stressed that I thought that.
[02:15] <rexykik> dibblego, we don't know. we can't read the code :(
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: To play a dvd you run a program that access the drive
[02:15] <JoshX> ah found it
[02:15] <Recks> kk
[02:15] <JoshX> the installer allows you to install on software raid
[02:15] <Recks> would Kaffeine do that?
[02:15] <dibblego> rexykik, so are you suggesting it is definitely the fault of the nvidia driver?
[02:15] <JoshX> only at boot the software raid subsystem is not started
[02:16] <JoshX> eg all raid devices are not available at boot time
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: I dont play dvd's so I really dont know.. (Sorry)
[02:16] <dr_willis> tengil, screen dosebnt respond to ctrl-c for me at all
[02:16] <Daynah> Hey boys and girls, do you have any suggestions as to help to fix my vlc... or my totem... or get around them and ignore the problem all together like I do with my boyfriend? Any of the above is fine with me?
[02:16] <rexykik> i'm suggesting it, but i don't think that analysis would be accurate
[02:16] <Recks> kk lol
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: are you in Jubuntu or Ubuntu
[02:16] <rexykik> I am currently running the nvidia driver without any problems in kubuntu
[02:16] <Recks> anyone know how to get a SATA RAID up and running :-X
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Kubuntu
[02:16] <Recks> Ubuntu
[02:16] <JoshX> anyone in here have any idea if this is a known bug?
[02:16] <pigmonkey> Can someone help me? I need to know how to do a Server install from the Dapper live cd.
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: My sata run fine
[02:16] <Recks> really
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: I did nothing special
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> oops
[02:16] <dibblego> rexykik, I was running it fine on exactly the same hardware on Breezy, but I forget which version of the driver
[02:17] <Recks> well I have two raptors set up in a RAID
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> NOT raid
[02:17] <brett_tolbert> i'm playing around with g++, i just tried to compile a "hello world" c++ file named practice.c++,  i typed the command like this: "c++ practice.c++ -o practice"  and it seems to compile fine but when i type "practice" i get "bash: practice: command not found"   WHY?  why isn't the file executing? what am i doing wrong?  :'(
[02:17] <sethk> pigmonkey, do install from install cd
[02:17] <JoshX> anyone???
[02:17] <dibblego> rexykik, my suspicion is libglx.so to be honest (I forget why though)
[02:17] <sethk> pigmonkey, that's why they call it install cd.  run live from the live cd.  that's why they call it live cd
[02:17] <Recks> ahh see lol
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: that will be interesting
[02:17] <Recks> not raid lol
[02:17] <Recks> yea =-/
[02:17] <Nameeater> brett: chmod +x practice then do ./practice
[02:17] <Recks> rofl
[02:17] <pigmonkey> I only have the live cd that comes from shipit.ubuntu
[02:17] <tengil> dr_willis: neither when you start a program automatically when screen starts?
[02:17] <pigmonkey> they didn't ship an install cd, sadly
[02:17] <brett_tolbert> ok i'll try it
[02:17] <brett_tolbert> thanks
[02:17] <Recks> SATA raid's are a pain in the ass to begin with
[02:17] <sethk> pigmonkey, download the install cd(s)
[02:17] <Recks> in linux it should be a stroke
[02:17] <Daynah> Yeah, I thought there was only one cd with DD ;)
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> pigmonkey: live will install also
[02:18] <pigmonkey> but will it install server? I don't want desktop
[02:18] <Recks> hmm I'll dig around on the nvidia site see if I can't dig up linux raid driver
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> pigmonkey: You would be best getting the alt cd
[02:18] <rexykik> dibblego, that is highly likely
[02:18] <rexykik> or at least it seems a lot of people have problems with it
[02:19] <Daynah> So does anyone know how to fix the VLC or Totem or should I come back later (after I'm fed and less grumpy :) )
[02:19] <dr_willis> tengil,  i made it start mc automaticially and it dont respind to ctrl-c
[02:19] <dibblego> rexykik, do you happen to know if the "nv" driver depends on libglx?
[02:19] <rexykik> if you check out forums you may be able to find someone with an available download for an old one
[02:19] <rexykik> i do not.
[02:19] <rexykik> you could join #nvidia and find out though
[02:19] <dibblego> ok cheers
[02:19] <rexykik> i need to go now though
[02:19] <brett_tolbert> alright nameeater!  that worked like a charm. great, thanks alot. i feel stupid. lets see, what did that do?  chmod +x  must have added "execute" to the file permissions for practice.c++  but what does the ./ before the filename do? just curious.
[02:20] <Daynah> thanks any way guys! I'll be on later to help with any of the easier questions on here that appear :)
[02:20] <tengil> dr_willis: ok well i think i give up on this. i want to be able to kill the program i started with ctrl+c looks right now like i have to manually start screen to do that without killing the screen anyways..
[02:20] <sethk> brett_tolbert, ./ means "here".  ./command  means run executable file command in the current directory
[02:20] <Nameeater> what he said ;)
[02:21] <dr_willis> tengil,  could be screen is grabbing the ctrl-c's and keeping them.
[02:21] <brett_tolbert> oh so it tells linux to look for the command to execute in the pwd instead of in the normal place. cool, i get it. i'm learning. lol thanks
[02:21] <Recks> ahh okay I think I got it lol
[02:21] <tengil> dr_willis: weird things is that it doesnt do it when i start screen manually and then start the program in the screen
[02:21] <sethk> brett_tolbert, you can if you like put "." in the PATH and avoid the ./, but it's generally better to not include . in your execution search path
[02:22] <tengil> only when starting the program automatically with the screen
[02:22] <blinker> does anyone know why ubuntu might have problems downloading package information over the net for things like repository updates/downloads? i'm obviously connected to the internet...
[02:22] <dr_willis> blinker,  servers have been having some issues lately
[02:22] <gnomefreak> blinker: us.archive.com?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> blinker: what kind of problems
[02:22] <blinker> gnomefreak: whatever the default is...
[02:23] <gnomefreak> blinker: are you in the us?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> blinker: Servers have been hammered...
[02:23] <blinker> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:23] <petduo> how can I zip files from the command line?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> blinker: open /etc/apt/sources.list and take the "us." out of the repos
[02:23] <WiseOdd> i feel kinda stupid, but i forgot how to alter the amount of reserved blocks in the partition... any1 know how to do that?
[02:23] <Recks> hmm can anyone suggest a program to play DVD's?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> petduo: gunzip or tar
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xmms
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> totem
[02:24] <Jerr|sd> ok, so my windows partition is under an extended partition
[02:24] <Recks> thanks
[02:24] <Recks> lol
[02:24] <bayzider> i instaled windows on blank partion but when i turn on my computer i am not givein a choice of witch opertion system i want my computer just imeditaly boots into windows but ubuntu is also installed on a another partion how do i fix this
[02:24] <mistform> hey, what repositories do you guys use?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: np
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[02:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:24] <mistform> like, what non-ubuntu repositories?
[02:24] <dr_willis> bayzider,  you installed windows - after you installed ubuntu?
[02:24] <WiseOdd> !WisoOdd partition
[02:24] <sethk> bayzider, reinstall grub, and add windows to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about WisoOdd partition - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:25] <bayzider> how do i do that
[02:25] <shammy> what is the command to update breezy to dapper?
[02:25] <WiseOdd> !partition
[02:25] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:25] <Jerr|sd> bayzider: get your livecd and pop it in
[02:25] <Jenkens> i seem to be having a problem with gnu screen's backspace .. it accepts ^H, rather than ^? as normal.
[02:25] <Jenkens> has anyone else dealt with this
[02:25] <bayzider> im running on my live cd right now
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bayzider: cool
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> bayzider: Any questions, just ask
[02:26] <bayzider> ? i just asked a question
[02:26] <Jerr|sd> bayzider: ok, now you just need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:26] <bayzider> how do i do that
[02:26] <Jerr|sd> uhh
[02:27] <WiseOdd> how do i change the amount of reserved blocks on a partition?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bayzider: I would try the super gub repair disc
[02:27] <Jerr|sd> do you see your ubuntu installed system mounted?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> People usually put windows on then Ubuntu
[02:27] <Jerr|sd> yeah
[02:27] <petduo> gnomefreak, i want to compress some files on a .zip one
[02:27] <bayzider> yeah well its compliated
[02:27] <bayzider> i installed ubuntu blindly not knowing how to dual boot
[02:27] <Jerr|sd> but I might have to go in the same situation if I can't get my problem fixed
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> or do a reinstall of xp and need to fix the grub menu
[02:28] <blinker> gnomefreak: its giving me permission errors and I was pretty convinced that i was logged on as admin account (i've only made 1 acct period, to my knowledge)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> petduo: man zip
[02:28] <bioticpro> !edgy
[02:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:28] <bayzider> then i got some hard ware that needed windows so i installed it on my blank partion
[02:28] <bayzider> ok how do i install grub
[02:28] <gnomefreak> blinker: sudo apt-get update gives you permission errros?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> bayzider: its installed by default
[02:28] <Recks> Okay when trying to play the DVD it says "
[02:28] <blinker> gnomefreak: no, trying to save the file after removing the "us."'s
[02:28] <Vermyndax> good evening everyone
[02:29] <Recks> no URl handler implemented for "dvd"
[02:29] <bayzider> but shouldent i be givin a choice as to witch os i want when i boot up
[02:29] <gnomefreak> blinker: when you open the file this is how gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> I'm actually trying to get window's boot back
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> yes
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> I have it
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> but since the installer didn't see one, it doesn't bother
[02:29] <gnomefreak> blinker: or sudo nano /etc...... or kdesu kate /etc/....
[02:30] <gnomefreak> !grub > Jerr|sd
[02:30] <blinker> erm...this is day one for me so most of that didn't make a lot of sense, hehe.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Jerr|sd: read your pm to fix grub
[02:30] <WiseOdd> anyone know how to alter the amount of reserved blocks on a partition?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> blinker: are you on gnome?
[02:31] <Jerr|sd> gnomefreak: thats moot to me
[02:31] <gnomefreak> moot?
[02:31] <Jerr|sd> I'm in linux trying to get stupid Windows's boot thing to work
[02:31] <blinker> gnomefreak: i believe so. thats the ubuntu gui, yes?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-file_galleries.php  Super Grub Repair
[02:31] <Jerr|sd> Grub isn't broken
[02:31] <gnomefreak> blinker: type in terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <sethk> Wiseguy, for ext2 and ext3, you can use tune2fs
[02:32] <Jerr|sd> The partition windows is on can't be booted
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: But you cant get into windows right
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Jerr|sd: you dont want ntblr to boot your system
[02:32] <WiseOdd> sethk: thx :)
[02:32] <blinker> k, be back w/results
[02:32] <Jerr|sd> its an extended partition
[02:32] <bayzider> so how do i fix this
[02:32] <maeraj> How to force the removal of a partially configured package?  I read the dpkg manual but no luck. :(
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> I know, its just that grub can't boot my windows because of boot file problems
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> it doesn't really see windows
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: you and bayzider are in similar situation
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> Jack_Sparrow: similar, but opposite
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> I have a problem with Windows
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> actually, my partition
[02:33] <blinker> gnomefreak: same results
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-file_galleries.php  Super Grub Repair just might make your XP bootable
[02:34] <mwe> bayzider: I think default just boots unless you press esc during the 3 second delay when you power on. you can change that though
[02:34] <maeraj> I'm in a situation where the configuration for a partially installed packaged failed.  I do not even want the package, but I cannot remove it.
[02:34] <blinker> cant even save as, seems its not giving me folder write access
[02:34] <gnomefreak> blinker: close the files (both) if they are both still open
[02:34] <blinker> nah, was just the one instance
[02:34] <roostishaw> is there a program that has a cli that does p2p/bittorrent?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: you may need to finish installing it to properly remove it... just a guess.  One of these other guys may have a cli solution..
[02:35] <Jerr|sd> Jack_Sparrow: I don't see how, when the problem is not with grub but with windows loader
[02:35] <metalhedd> my hotkeys are seriously messed up, i think its a kubuntu thing but nobody there is any help.   the problem is that none of the multimedia keys that I set as shortcuts are doing anything... the one button that does work is MUTE and its not configured to do anything, it just sort of works on its own.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> blinker: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <maeraj> Jack_Sparrow: yes, that's what dpkg suggested, but it is unable to configure the package.  I have tried several times to complete the configuration
[02:35] <gnomefreak> blinker: it should prmpt you for a password
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: There are not many solutions to your problem, Windows dosent like being second fiddle
[02:36] <roostishaw> anyone, is there a program that has a cli that does p2p/bittorrent?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: Maybe you should ask in #Windows
[02:36] <Jerr|sd> I am (##windows)
[02:36] <maeraj> roostishaw: the original bittorrent client has a console interface optionally
[02:36] <XDX90> anyone here
[02:36] <blinker> ok that worked. i nav'd to the folder last time...prolly had something to do with it
[02:37] <kern_malloc> XDX90: nope
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: have you changed your sources list?
[02:37] <blinker> thanks gnomefreak
[02:37] <kern_malloc> "folder"  therea re no folders in linux :)
[02:37] <XDX90> i just got ubuntu
[02:37] <JoshX> can anyone tell me what this is: http://www.townsville.nl/~joshx/crash.jpg and how do i fix it?
[02:37] <XDX90> im using xchat
[02:37] <mwe> XDX90: congrats
[02:37] <bimberi> welcome XDX90
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: welcome
[02:37] <Jerr|sd> is it actually possible to *safely* turn an extended partition into a regular (primary) partition without data damage?
[02:37] <XDX90> thanks
[02:37] <maeraj> Jack_Sparrow: I am using only the official ubuntu sources.  This package was installed by the installer, which for some reason gave me a bigiron kernel which I don't want.  It depends on clvm, which will not remove itself because it did not install properly
[02:37] <gnomefreak> blinker: sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <JoshX> it is a fresh install where / is on a md raid1 device
[02:37] <XDX90> I cannot see a list of the users in this channel?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: No
[02:37] <gnomefreak> after you save it
[02:38] <MaxL> hey can someone help me install qjoypad.
[02:38] <Jerr|sd> damn
[02:38] <kern_malloc> XDX90: type /names #ubuntu
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: what were you trying to install?
[02:38] <MaxL> when I get to make make it gives me an error
[02:38] <XDX90> oh cool
[02:38] <mwe> XDX90: odd. here it show to the right of the channel window
[02:38] <blinker> looks like its trying to connect to a lan ip
[02:38] <maeraj> Jack_Sparrow: I'm just trying to remove that kernel, but clvm depends on it.  I want to remove clvm
[02:39] <Jerr|sd> I really should look into getting new HDDs
[02:39] <XDX90> Man I'm a newb at linux
[02:39] <sally2> has anyone tried to install kismet on 6.06?
[02:39] <bimberi> XDX90: does it say "807 Users" somewhere in the window.  Try clicking there
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: Sorry, not my area...
[02:39] <XDX90> Yes
[02:39] <maeraj> :)
[02:39] <maeraj> I'll be back
[02:39] <blinker> XDX90: hi! welcome to the club =p i'm right there with ya, lol
[02:39] <XDX90> ;d
[02:40] <kern_malloc> and then when you guys want a real distro, switch to gentoo
[02:40] <Zambezi> I need help from a really skilled person now. I can't make a folder i mnt without sudo. I know I'm not suposed to change the right in home, so what can I do?
[02:40] <Jerr|sd> kern_malloc: you didn't compile ducking yet
[02:40] <blinker> kern_malloc: I was thinking debian, actually
[02:40] <sethk> kern_malloc, right.  compile for days to get something that runs slower than ubuntu.
[02:40] <XDX90> Where could I get MSN Messenger? For linux
[02:41] <Jerr|sd> XDX90: amsn
[02:41] <kern_malloc> sethk: uhrm.... I was kind of kidding.. not trying to start a flame war.  But that comment is just wrong
[02:41] <XDX90> amsn?
[02:41] <sethk> kern_malloc, no, it is not.  I've tested, extensively.
[02:41] <kern_malloc> you tested wrong then
[02:41] <XDX90> oh i found it
[02:41] <XDX90> ty
[02:41] <kern_malloc> that or you don't know how to configure your system
[02:41] <Zambezi> XDX90, There's no MSN for Linux.
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Stop trolling
[02:41] <sethk> kern_malloc, no, I most certainly did not.  I do this for a living.
[02:41] <kern_malloc> sethk: as do I
[02:41] <Zambezi> XDX90, aMSN or Gain.
[02:41] <XDX90> yes
[02:41] <sethk> kern_malloc, now, with a lot of work, it is possible to get gentoo to run as fast.  If you make zero mistakes
[02:41] <XDX90> I'm downloading aMSN
[02:41] <Zambezi> XDX90, Gaim
[02:41] <bimberi> XDX90: Gaim (Applications -> Internet -> Gaim Internet Messenger) can be used for msn
[02:42] <XDX90> oh cool
[02:42] <kern_malloc> sethk: zero mistakes is what I make.
[02:42] <sethk> kern_malloc, however, that still makes it absurd, because you are compiling for days to get what?  nothing.
[02:42] <shammy> How risky is it to allow writing to an NTFS drive?
[02:42] <MaxL> Zambezi: I beleive MSN works in Wine or Cedega?
[02:42] <kern_malloc> sethk: i compiled 12 hours... hardly days
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shammy: Dont do it
[02:42] <Jerr|sd> shammy: very
[02:42] <sethk> kern_malloc, ok, you compiled for 12 hours to get nothing.
[02:42] <MaxL> Can someone help me with installing something?
[02:42] <shammy> alrighty then
[02:42] <kern_malloc> sethk: most people who "do this for a living" understand the value of compiling locally on your own system
[02:42] <sethk> kern_malloc, that is a myth
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys, this is not the place for that
[02:42] <ajt> I'm trying to start MySQL and I keep getting this error http://paste.seagullproject.org/38
[02:42] <Jerr|sd> 12 hours? It took me DAYS to compile all of gentoo
[02:43] <sethk> kern_malloc, primarily because the gnu compiler simply doesn't have optimizations that add significant power.
[02:43] <blinker> gnomefreak: sudo apt-get update failed. it was trying to connect to 192.0.0.168 for some fu'd reason or another...
[02:43] <mistform> how do I use a theme I just downloaded?
[02:43] <tritium> kern_malloc, sethk: please take the disto war to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <Zambezi> MaxL, I'm not sure about that, but why use Windowsapplications when there is Linuxversion. Games is another point, there is Cedega or Wine the only options.
[02:43] <XDX90> wow ubuntu is pretty user friendly
[02:43] <gnomefreak> blinker: sounds like a proxy
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: open the theme manager and drop it onto it
[02:43] <blinker> wall > modem > router (as gateway)
[02:43] <mistform> the whole tar.bz2?
[02:43] <MaxL> Zambezi can you help me out?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mist yes
[02:44] <WiseOdd> how do i mass set ownership / permissions of all files on my HD?
[02:44] <Recks> Well Xine is pimp....
[02:44] <sally2> how does one enable multiverse universe?
[02:44] <mistform> says file format is invalid....
[02:44] <bimberi> MaxL: just ask, if someone knows they'll help you
[02:44] <Zambezi> XDX90, It's, but just be patient. It's alot diffrent than Windows. So if things doesn't work directly, try a little bit more and ask here. :-)
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> WiseOdd: Not wise
[02:44] <MaxL> Hey anyone use qjoypad?
[02:44] <mistform> it's a GDM theme
[02:44] <ardchoille> WiseOdd: You really don't wanna do that
[02:44] <Zambezi> MaxL, I use Gaim so I can't help you with that.
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: I had some of those themes do the same thing, 2 out of 20 I did yesterday
[02:45] <roostishaw> anyone, what is the package name for frostwire? or is it still in the repos?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> try a different one just to be sure you are doing it right
[02:45] <sethk> Wiseguy, you can use chmod -R, but it is probably a bad idea to do it to your entire tree.
[02:45] <Wiseguy> hey guys does it make sense to setup iptables on my ubuntu box if im behind a router?
[02:45] <sethk> Wiseguy, depends on the router, but I believe not
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Wiseguy: You shouldnt need to
[02:45] <mwe> sethk: I don't doubt that ubuntu is as fast or faster than gentoo but aren't they compiled with the same compiler?
[02:45] <WiseOdd> jack_sparrow: my xtra hdd is filled with files from an older installation, and i can only use them with root priv. in dapper root is somewhat disabled, so a lot of the files cant be used without trouble...
[02:46] <sethk> mwe, yes, generally, but the distro builders add significant value.
[02:46] <Recks> I have 5.1 surround sound how do I get the other 3.1 channels to work?
[02:46] <Wiseguy> sethk, its just a cheap linksys... wrt54g
[02:46] <mistform> I did another one
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> WiseOdd: what happens when you mount the extra partition, what fpormat is the partition?
[02:46] <sally2> anyone work with kismet?
[02:46] <mistform> same thing, invalid format
[02:46] <bimberi> !frostwire > roostishaw
[02:46] <sethk> Wiseguy, I wouldn't set up iptables in that config.
[02:46] <mwe> sethk: I don't understand
[02:46] <sally2> trying to install it on ubuntu 6.06
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: which ones did you try
[02:46] <blinker> gnomefreak:  would i be able to manually download the files and copy them somewheres to work around this issue?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> from where
[02:46] <WiseOdd> jack: its ext2
[02:46] <sethk> mwe, compiling is not as simple as just running make.
[02:47] <sally2> trying to figure this out:
[02:47] <roostishaw> bimberi, thank you
[02:47] <Recks> Jack_Sparrow: any ideas on how to make my surround sound work?
[02:47] <sally2> sally2, enable universe and multiverse, then sudo aptitude in a shell.
[02:47] <sally2> Find Kismet, check the dependencies, then install the corresponding dev-
[02:47] <sally2> packages for any libs. Then pick up the kismet source from kismetwireless,
[02:47] <sally2> configure and make. Thats all there is to it.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> blinker: packages.ubuntu.com has all packages on it
[02:47] <sethk> mwe, different options will help in different situations.
[02:47] <bimberi> roostishaw: np :)
[02:47] <MaxL> Hey can someone help me with qjoypad?
[02:47] <blinker> k
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: Here is where I get mine http://art.gnome.org/themes
[02:47] <blinker> gnomefreak: again, thx
[02:47] <mwe> sethk: I know. but isn't the what the ebuilds do?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks:  no
[02:47] <Recks> o.o
[02:48] <sethk> mwe, yes, if you download the ubuntu source you'll get the same result, in general.  I was referring more to downloading source tarballs.
[02:48] <sethk> mwe, there are also issues, however, with the order that things are built, linking to static vs dynamic libraries.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> blinker: im sorry i cant go through the process right now its about bed time but i see a few people in here that can help if you ask why am i getting this error (i suggest checking to see if ubuntu is connecting through proxy (doesnt mean you set one up either
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: LEt me know what theme so I can check it and then we can do md5sum to verify you have the same file
[02:49] <mwe> sethk: yes.
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: Goodnight
[02:49] <blinker> gnomefreak: righto - I'll have all night to play with it so i should be able to get it worked out. later man
[02:50] <gnomefreak> night all
[02:50] <CyaniCs> night.
[02:50] <ardchoille> g'nite gnomefreak
[02:50] <WiseOdd> jack: when trying to copy the files from the xtra hdd to my ordinary hdd, it says "some contents unreadable." bcause of ordinary user not having permission to read...
[02:51] <CyaniCs|Gxine> I wish someone would get Azureus compiled correctly for dapper.
[02:51] <Zambezi> Shouldn't be possible to make a folder in mnt without sudo/root?
[02:51] <mistform> whoa....
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> WiseOdd: What is the format on that other partition
[02:51] <XDX90> when i ran linux from the disk, on my desktop is a program called "install" , i'm at a part where it says "how do you want to partition the disk?" - what should i do? there's 3 options
[02:51] <mistform> anyone ever get en error in firefox?
[02:51] <WiseOdd> ext3
[02:51] <mistform> "XML Parsing Error: syntax error"
[02:51] <mistform> ssed = ture;
[02:51] <XDX90> i wanna have 2 os's
[02:51] <mistform> true*
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: DO you have unallocated space on that drive
[02:52] <XDX90> some
[02:52] <XDX90> it says
[02:52] <Jerr|sd> anyone want to look at my fdisk output and see if something can be done to somehow not have exploding windows
[02:52] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: you will need to clear up some space for linux to be installed.
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: What about your theme problem?
[02:52] <Jerr|sd> http://pastebin.com/760621
[02:52] <coded1> can any one help me with dapper?  it detects my usb wireless adapter no problem I can use iwlist to get my AP but i cannot figure out how to actually get a connection...
[02:52] <XDX90> do you know how big it is?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: shrink your xp install by 20 gig
[02:52] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: you can either repartition, or resize your FS, depending upon what OS and FS you have.
[02:52] <Suspect> Hey everyone
[02:52] <blinker> (fs - file lsystem)
[02:52] <sethk> Wiseguy, it's ok to change ownership on a bunch of data files.  I meant that it isn't a good idea to change ownership of the files that are installed (in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, etc.) during install.
[02:53] <XDX90> I only have around 3.1 gb of space
[02:53] <CyaniCs|Gxine> coded1: download a program called "WIFI radar"
[02:53] <Suspect> I seem to have locked myself out of my fresh install of ubuntu on another computer
[02:53] <blinker> XDX90: I used a 3g partition for my install
[02:53] <sethk> Wiseguy, if you have this thing mounted on /media/whatever, and you do a chown -R or a chmod -R on /media/whatever, that's safe.
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: how big that hard drive
[02:53] <blinker> should be fine, you just won't have workds of space to play with
[02:53] <coded1> CyaniCs|Gxine,cool thanx!
[02:53] <sethk> Suspect, boot a live cd or the install cd in rescue mode.
[02:53] <WiseOdd> sethk: i figure that much :)
[02:53] <XDX90> only 60gb but its a laptop
[02:53] <tritium> Suspect: forgot your password?  You can reboot into recovery (single user) mode
[02:53] <sgkf> What directory do i put the themes for XMMS and how do i change it's theme?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: Std install is about 2.8 gig  you are cutting it close
[02:53] <XDX90> I have arund 57GB taken up by windows
[02:53] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: 3gb is rather small.
[02:53] <WiseOdd> sethk: thx again :)
[02:54] <Suspect> tritium: well I am 95% sure I have it right.. but once I'm in recovery mode how do I fix the problem?
[02:54] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: i strongly recommend 10gb, just for safe keeping.
[02:54] <sethk> WiseOdd, it's best to say explicitly, though; some people may not know, or probably more realistically wouldn't know that they need to be careful about where they run a recursive command.
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[02:55] <blinker> oh, since we're on partitions...i had something interesting happen when i was setting up. i have a total of 4 parts on one physical HDD - does ubuntu only recognize up to 3? the missing 4th was going to be designated for swap space
[02:55] <mistform> anyone ever the the FF error?
[02:55] <CyaniCs|VLC> you can only have 4 partitions total.
[02:55] <mistform> it's when I try to open Preferences
[02:55] <Jenkens> i seem to be having a problem with gnu screen's backspace .. it accepts ^H, rather than ^? as normal.  anyone else experience this?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: how did you install ff
[02:56] <bruenig> mistform, what error
[02:56] <mistform> it came installed
[02:56] <Zambezi> Shouldn't it be possible to make a folder in /mnt/ without sudo/root?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: just checking
[02:56] <mistform> and it worked 2 hrs ago
[02:56] <WiseOdd> sethk: i know :) and ill be careful! thx again, both for the advise and for the help!
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: no
[02:56] <rcmiv> ola! - gdm login screen resolution way too high, xorg.conf 1024x768 at every depth..howto fix?
[02:56] <mistform> all I've done is update ubuntu, I never touched FF
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: did you change the repos ?
[02:57] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, I'll check if I can make folders in mount without sudo.
[02:57] <mistform> yes, I only added one that a guide told me to
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: what gide?
[02:57] <Suspect> tritium: ?
[02:57] <tritium> Suspect: reset the passwd
[02:57] <mistform> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:58] <blinker> is /tmp what gets used as swap space?
[02:58] <tritium> Suspect: passwd <username>
[02:58] <Suspect> okay
[02:58] <tritium> blinker: no
[02:58] <Suspect> thanks
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: so just multiverse and universe?
[02:58] <mistform> yeah, I added those two before I updated
[02:58] <mistform> er.. checked the boxes ;)
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: save your bookmarks, uninstall and reinstall
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: see if that does not clear it
[02:59] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, I can make folders on my harddrive without sudo and I need to make them without sudo.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: where were you trying to make them?
[02:59] <Suspect> tritium: When I try to reset the password, it says that user does not exist. Maybe I made a spelling error when typing the username during the install.. is there a command to list all of the users?
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: You can make folders but I questioned where you wanted to make them
[03:00] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, In /mnt/harddrive2
[03:00] <pkh> is it possible to force the group to use for a new file in a particular directory?
[03:00] <tritium> Suspect: you can cat /etc/passwd, or ls /home
[03:00] <Suspect> thanks
[03:00] <tritium> Suspect: your user should have uid 1000
[03:01] <CyaniCs|VLC> tritium: not necessarily.
[03:01] <sproingie> pkh: i think chmod g+s dirname will give new files the gid of the directory
[03:02] <mistform> where can I get Xchat for Ubuntu so I don't have to fucking switch between computers anymore???
[03:02] <CyaniCs|VLC> UID isn't important, as-long-as the UID matches the user
[03:02] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, dator@dator:/mnt/harddrive2$ mkdir test // mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied
[03:02] <pkh> sproingie, awesome!  thanks will look into it!
[03:02] <ian> Question: Does one need to upgrade which kernel they are using depending upon how fast/slow (old/new) their computer is?
[03:02] <tritium> CyaniCs|VLC: from a standard install, his uid _should_ be 1000
[03:02] <sgkf> What directory do i put the themes for XMMS and how do i change it's theme?
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: exactly
[03:03] <tritium> CyaniCs|VLC: scroll up, and you'll see what you missed
[03:03] <CyaniCs|VLC> mistform: i think xchat is in the multiverse or backports
[03:03] <lukaswayne9> My cpu is at 100%, how can I tell what's hogging the CPU?
[03:03] <cpk2> lukaswayne9: "top"
[03:03] <CyaniCs|VLC> tritium: understood, and appoligies.
[03:03] <mistform> I have to do the "advanced" to uninstall it
[03:03] <tritium> CyaniCs|VLC: no wories :)
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: fine
[03:03] <ian> lukaswayne9:  Open system monitor
[03:03] <CyaniCs|VLC> lukaswayne9: in a terminal type "top"
[03:03] <ian> lukaswayne9:  then check and see what process is running so much of your resources.
[03:04] <CyaniCs|VLC> lukaswayne9: then sort by CPU usage by pressing "p"
[03:04] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, And when I can't make folders without sudo, I can't transfer files over the LAN without using root.
[03:04] <rcmiv> any thoughts on GDM resolution?
[03:04] <mistform> what is firefox-dbg?
[03:04] <CyaniCs|VLC> lukaswayne9: sorry... misdirected response.
[03:04] <mistform> do I need it?
[03:04] <sproingie> mistform: debug symbols for firefox, and no you don't need it
[03:05] <mistform> I right-clicked them and went to Reinstall
[03:05] <lukaswayne9> CyaniCs|VLC: thanks
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: I am tired and about to call it a night.  What format was the mounted drive
[03:05] <lukaswayne9> CyaniCs|VLC: gnome-panel was the culprit
[03:05] <TimeKiller> That was updated today wasn't it?
[03:05] <chris86wm> when I shutdown I get a "unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth1 to become free. Usage count =1" notice
[03:05] <chris86wm> whats going on?
[03:06] <ian> Question: Should you choose your kernel based on what type of proc you're using?  I'm 'upgrading' to an AMD Athalon 1700, will i686 be enough or should I go for a diff kernel?
[03:06] <ian> !kernel
[03:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:06] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: you would want either i386 or i686
[03:07] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC: Even with 2G of ram?
[03:07] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, It's ext3.
[03:07] <mistform> mmkay, ty, Jack_Sparrow
[03:07] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC: And which would you choose?  i386 or i686?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: are you up and running yet
[03:07] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: yeap. most of the OS is setup for i386, and when necessary some portions are compiled against 686 code.
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: did you figure out the theme problem
[03:07] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: i am on a Athlon 2900 xp, and run a 386/686 kernel
[03:08] <chris86wm> any ideas guys?
[03:08] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: but it is all default/stock stuff, nothing custom comiled.
[03:08] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: sounds like either a bad LAN cable, or a bad NIC.
[03:08] <Max007> can someone help me with configuration of a wifi network with a bcm43xx adapter ?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> chris86wm: let people know what type of network card that is and how you installed any drivers if any
[03:09] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC: Sys Info tells me I'm using i686, do you know where I can find a good faq on what precisely the diff is between 386 and 686?
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <chris86wm> its a built in wireless card on my Inspiron 6000
[03:09] <mistform> Max007: I have hte same, and mine won't work
[03:09] <Max007> ubotu: i tried all docs ... it still doesn't work
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about i tried all docs ... it still doesn't work - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:09] <chris86wm> i just started getting the error yesterday and it seems to come and go
[03:09] <sproingie> ian: you'll probably never notice the difference between the cpu arch types.  the kernel simply doesn't do the kind of stuff that usually benefits from it
[03:09] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: depends on what you are wanting to look into. The difference between 386 and 686 is the microcode achitecture within the CPU.
[03:09] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: but you can try reading the FAQ in the kernel
[03:10] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: kernel source
[03:10] <chris86wm> same problems here in the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1323209#post1323209
[03:10] <sproingie> ian: i run a 386 kernel on an athlon64 2200, and it's silk smooth
[03:10] <chicken_Fire> #ati
[03:10] <mistform> I have a Latitude D600
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> chris86wm: try to identify that chipset
[03:11] <Phat32> How do I find my graphics card's BusID?
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mist c610 here
[03:11] <chris86wm> ipw2200
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lspci
[03:11] <sproingie> Phat32: lspci
[03:11] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC and sproingie : Thanks to both of you.  I appreciate the help.
[03:11] <sproingie> i lose
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:11] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: i run an ipw2200 also
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta eat and get some sleep. Goodnight people, Play nice..
[03:11] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: make sure that you have downloaded and installed the necessary firmware
[03:12] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, i think I have, everything was auto-detected and I can browse the net fine
[03:12] <Phat32> sproingie, I need it to show the BusID as it would in xorg.conf
[03:12] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: what happens when you manually shutdown the network with an "/etc/init/network stop"
[03:12] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, let me boot back up and see
[03:13] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, it seems as if this error only happens on a shutdown and not a restart
[03:13] <Phat32> Where is the BusID --> 0000:01:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500 ]  (rev a1)
[03:13] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, also i have to browse the net a bit to get it to make the error
[03:14] <Phat32> Don't BusID's look like "PCI:0:1:0" or close to that
[03:14] <chicken_Fire> Hi! 3D support problem: I have an -ATI 3d card x1600 512MB AGP- I installed the package xorg-driver-fglrx, runned the ati-config commands. I get 3d acceleration, can start kde and all. Fine. But if I switch to a console with ctr-alt-F1 and then back to X, my system freezes. help!
[03:14] <CyaniCs|VLC> it sounds like a bad card / mini-pci connection failure.
[03:14] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, the card itself works fine
[03:14] <chicken_Fire> any magix xorg.conf options I might try with ATI problems?
[03:15] <chris86wm> (in windows and it used to in ubuntu)
[03:15] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: the only thing i can think of is to uninstall and reinstall the firmware & drivers.
[03:15] <sproingie> Phat32: should be the numbers between 0000: and the dot
[03:15] <Phat32> sproingie, there are letters in it.. that's not how it's supposed to look
[03:15] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, how do I go about that?
[03:15] <sproingie> Phat32: it's in hex
[03:16] <TimeKiller> funny, I don't see a BUS ID in my xorg.conf and i run a FX 5500
[03:16] <Phat32> sproingie, so what should I covert it to?
[03:16] <CyaniCs|VLC> in synaptic, you need to mark it for reinstallation. (probably fully remove, then reinstall)
[03:16] <TimeKiller> oh wait
[03:16] <TimeKiller> i'm blind
[03:16] <TimeKiller> that might be why
[03:16] <sproingie> Phat32: don't
[03:16] <sproingie> Phat32: i've personally never had to use a busid in my xorg.conf
[03:16] <Phat32> sproingie,  xorg.conf doesn't apear to use hex
[03:16] <TimeKiller> BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[03:17] <CyaniCs|VLC> i don't have a busid in my xorg either.
[03:17] <TimeKiller> for a FX 5500
[03:17] <TimeKiller> its in the Section "Device"
[03:17] <Phat32> TimeKiller, How did you come up with that? and doesn't the BusID have something to do with which PCI slot the device is in?
[03:17] <TimeKiller> That's what's in my xorg.conf
[03:17] <sproingie> Phat32: if you have an agp controller it's almost certainly 1:0:0 or 1:0:1
[03:17] <TimeKiller> Yep
[03:17] <chris86wm> I am using a Network manager applet to connect to my wifi, would that have an effect?
[03:18] <TimeKiller> AGP slot is 1
[03:18] <Phat32> sproingie, it's PCI
[03:18] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: shouldn't make a difference.
[03:18] <sproingie> Phat32: looks like the number after the dot gets used too.  just convert 0000 to PCI, and the dot to a colon
[03:18] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: but it might. try shutting down the manager before shutting down and see what happens.
[03:18] <CyaniCs|VLC> personaly, i like wifi-radar.
[03:19] <sproingie> Phat32: welcome to X and goofy addressing schemes.  solaris would have a /dev/pci
[03:19] <Phat32> sproingie,  0000:01:0b.0  =  PCI:1:0:0 ???
[03:19] <sproingie> Phat32: my guess would be PCI:1:b:0
[03:19] <Tennessee> Is there any way to take a process that is started normally, and change it to 'nohup' mode?
[03:19] <chicken_Fire> known problems with xorg-driver-fglrx ubuntu dapper and ati x1600?
[03:20] <oblib> how do I install kernel source in Dapper?
[03:20] <Phat32> Can anyone confirm what sproingie is saying?
[03:20] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, well it shutdown with no problems that time, but as I said it comes and goes
[03:20] <CyaniCs|VLC> Phat32: try looking in /proc/bus/pci for the bus id
[03:20] <oliver> hello
[03:20] <TimeKiller> I can't i've never even looked at that spot in my xorg.conf until just now
[03:20] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: intermittent problems suck
[03:20] <oliver> why does ekiga reqiure tcp Port 135?
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> Hey I'm new to Ubuntu and I tried to install bluefish
[03:20] <mistform> where and how do I get Xchat for Ubuntu?
[03:20] <runespy> i have a question, i read reviews on ubuntu, and i still want to run windows xp for photoshop, can i have to seprate partitions?? so that i can have a dual boot
[03:20] <oliver> the documentation says nothing about Port 135
[03:20] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, whats odd is it was working fine yesterday
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> however I got an error
[03:20] <TimeKiller> sudo apt-get install xchat in a terminal
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> sudo apt-get install bluefish
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> Reading package lists... Done
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> E: Couldn't find package bluefish
[03:21] <Phat32> sproingie, david@davidh:/proc/bus/pci$ ls            00  01  devices
[03:21] <HellDragon> ok
[03:21] <tritium> !info bluefish
[03:21] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[03:21] <sproingie> runespy: yes, ubuntu does dual boot quite nicely
[03:21] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: if it was a hardware failure, especially a heat related one, it would happen more often after being on and running for a while.
[03:21] <theboywhogotlost> What do I need to do?
[03:21] <tritium> !universe > theboywhogotlost
[03:21] <jn> hey can someone link me to setting up wpa in network-manager
[03:21] <jn> for dapper
[03:21] <mistform> where and how do I get Xchat?
[03:21] <theboywhogotlost> tritium ?
[03:21] <sproingie> !ask
[03:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:22] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, its not that hot and it happens sometimes after 5 min of usage
[03:22] <oblib> theboywhogotlost: I don't know bluefish, but to search for a package, do apt-cache search bluefish
[03:22] <TimeKiller> mistform, open a terminal and sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:22] <oblib> !kernel
[03:22] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:22] <chris86wm> i think the laptop is running @ 93F
[03:22] <bimberi> theboywhogotlost: Applications -> Add/Remove..., make sure "Show unsupported applications" is checked, search for bluefish
[03:22] <TimeKiller> mistform, or use synaptix and search for it
[03:22] <mistform> how do I get to root?
[03:22] <chicken_Fire> I found this for ati 3d card freeze: "If you get problems with black screen freeze comment out Load "extmod" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:22] <mistform> I thought i was, but apparently not
[03:22] <TimeKiller> mistform, you don't on ubuntu
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> !root
[03:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:23] <Phat32> sproingie,  What do you think
[03:23] <CyaniCs|VLC> !sudo > mistform
[03:23] <chicken_Fire> from http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page - Ubuntu Document Storage Facility
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> its a test. of your linux knowledge
[03:23] <mistform> says permission denied
[03:23] <TimeKiller> mistform, that's why i said sudo
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:23] <chicken_Fire> but it did not fix it.
[03:23] <Recks> okay I need help getting my 5.1 to work
[03:23] <chris86wm> this is frustrating
[03:23] <TimeKiller> mistform, sudo apt-get.. not just apt-get
[03:23] <oliver> any help about ekiga and tcp port 135?
[03:23] <greenman> okay.  I'm in the livecd.  How can I tell if ubuntu has mounted my drives?  Where would they be?
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> Recks,  what 5.1 ?
[03:23] <tritium> theboywhogotlost: it's in the universe repository.  You need to setup apt to use that repo.  I had ubotu send you the URL that explains that.
[03:23] <runespy> i was wondering if i can run ubuntu on another partition other than winxp and have a dual boot option, is this avilable!!!!!
[03:23] <Recks> 5.1 surround sound
[03:23] <Recks> lol
[03:23] <Recks> sorry
[03:23] <tritium> !enter
[03:23] <bimberi> runespy: you bet!
[03:23] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:24] <TimeKiller> runespy, yes.
[03:24] <runespy> ok
[03:24] <mistform> resource temporarily unavailable
[03:24] <runespy> how do i enable this??
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> runespy,  you  basicially HAVE to instell ubuntu on a differnet partition.
[03:24] <runespy> im on my other system
[03:24] <mistform> asks if another procedure is using it
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> runespy,  thats how it installs by default.
[03:24] <CyaniCs|VLC> !multiboot
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about multiboot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <runespy> ok :)
[03:24] <runespy> ty
[03:24] <mistform> process*
[03:24] <CyaniCs|VLC> !dualboot
[03:24] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:24] <greenman> anyone?
[03:24] <CyaniCs|VLC> !dualboot>runespy
[03:24] <TimeKiller> mistform, you HAVE to tyep the command like this "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[03:24] <TimeKiller> it will prompt you for a password.
[03:24] <bimberi> runespy: the installer will offer to resize the existing partition
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> runespy,  but its still a good idea to back up any imporntant stuff on the xp drive.. and defrag it befor starting the installer
[03:25] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, error did not return after restarting the wireless applet
[03:25] <runespy> ok... because i ran xandors once and i thought that was to "kiddish" for a linux distro
[03:25] <TimeKiller> Dr_Willis, damn right :)
[03:25] <Wishakos> anyone knows any web page designer like dreamweaver?i dont know HTML so i need somthing graphical
[03:25] <runespy> umm
[03:25] <bimberi> Wishakos: have a look at nvu
[03:25] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: i am outta ideas.
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> runespy,  i dont think ya got enough experience to judge such things. :)
[03:25] <runespy> image ready of photoshop can do that
[03:26] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, forum says its a kernel issue?
[03:26] <CyaniCs|VLC> lol
[03:26] <jn> !wpa>me
[03:26] <chris86wm> "It seems to be a problem that's arrived with the recent kernel upgrade to 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8 from 2.6.15-22-amd64-k8 on a desktop."
[03:26] <runespy> lol no i do i just dont know which distros have that because i couldnt find it in centos or caos
[03:26] <jn> !wpa>jn
[03:26] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: like i said before, i run an ipw2200 and don't have problems with it. it could be a driver issue, a hardware issue, or a software issue. i just don't know. Sorry
[03:26] <jn> work damn you
[03:26] <chris86wm> lol
[03:26] <jn> i need a good link for setitng up wpa
[03:26] <mistform> TimeKiller: http://pasebin.ca/109391
[03:26] <chris86wm> thanks for trying
[03:26] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: didn't you say you were running a dell?
[03:27] <chris86wm> inspiron 6000
[03:27] <mistform> TimeKiller: http://pastebin.ca/109391
[03:27] <mistform> sry
[03:27] <chris86wm> worked fine with breezy
[03:27] <TimeKiller> hmm?
[03:27] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: the K8 kernels shouldn't be installed on a dell.
[03:27] <CyaniCs|VLC> k8 = athlon CPU.
[03:27] <TimeKiller> mistform:is that the repository?
[03:27] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, yeah, that was just the forum post
[03:27] <mistform> idk, is it still goin???
[03:27] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: ah. get cha.
[03:27] <mistform> I don't see anything
[03:28] <prophet> can anyone help me with ktorrent?
[03:28] <greenman> do you have ANY access to your hard drives in livecd mode?
[03:28] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm:  you might just want to wait a week and see what happens with the next kernel patch
[03:28] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, new patch coming out?
[03:28] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: all the time.
[03:28] <TimeKiller> mistform: what is that URL supposed to be?
[03:28] <mistform> what URL?
[03:28] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, will do. at least is not that much of an annoyance
[03:28] <TimeKiller> the one you posted twice.
[03:29] <mistform> the pastebin?
[03:29] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: typically its like 1x -2x per month. but they are just minor things. module patches and small kernel patches.
[03:29] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me to change the rights on a folder?
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> greenman,  check in /media/ or ya could mount them manually
[03:29] <mistform> pastebin is like a public-access posting site
[03:29] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, do you run a dell laptop?
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  what folder/what ya doing?
[03:29] <mistform> instead of me pasting it here, I post it, and give you the link to see it
[03:29] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: yeah. inspiron 600m
[03:29] <mistform> saves both of us time and effort
[03:29] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, any heat issues?
[03:29] <TimeKiller> only problem is the link isn't working.
[03:30] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: it runs warm, and i have had to replace the whole motherboard twice, but typically no.
[03:30] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, mine seems to run a bit hotter when I am using Ubuntu (probably just my imagination)
[03:30] <mistform> http://pastebin.ca/109391
[03:30] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: not your imagination.
[03:30] <greenman> Dr_Willis: I get nothing in media.  It should be able to see my OS raid drive (hardware).  I was kinda hopin' it might see the data raid (software)
[03:30] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc: ah, so this is a known problem
[03:30] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: if the cpu-frequency switcher and the hard-drive spin downs are not working just right, it will run really hot.
[03:30] <Zambezi> Dr_Willis, It's /mnt/harddrive2 I can't even make folders without sudo. :-(
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  what kind of partition is it? ext2? windows?
[03:31] <mistform> that one works
[03:31] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc: cpu seems to run @ 800mhz most of the time, I dont know about the hard drive
[03:31] <TimeKiller> mistform: that's typically the message you get when you attempt to apt-get w/o using sudo
[03:31] <Zambezi> Dr_Willis, Encrypted ext3,.
[03:31] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: its not really a problem so much as an inconvienence. mine works just right, but i know some have problems and need to mess around with HDparam to set it right.
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> greenman,  not sure about raids..
[03:31] <mistform> but I typed "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  for an ext3 partition i always make the users a dir and chown user.user thatdirforthem
[03:31] <greenman> Dr_Willis: I figured hardware raid it would be able to read it.  hmm... can ubuntu read reiserfs?
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  never messed with encrypted ones.
[03:32] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc: GKrellM says its @ 93.2F (if its working correctly)
[03:32] <TimeKiller> mistform: i noticed. the file is in use.. do you have another install running?
[03:32] <Caroline_wp> Hey everyone
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> greenman,   not sure.. thers a lot of cheap raids out that are hard+software.. and yes it can read reiserfs
[03:32] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: cpu temp or HD temp?
[03:32] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc: cpu
[03:32] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: that about right.
[03:32] <Caroline_wp> Hey TimeKiller
[03:32] <greenman> Dr_Willis: well I'm using 3ware for the os.  Hmm...  well thanks
[03:32] <Caroline_wp> Hey Chris86w
[03:32] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: but if you could check it (doubt you can) your HD is probably about 120 when its hot.
[03:32] <mistform> omg
[03:32] <TimeKiller> Hello Caroline
[03:33] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc: although it seems to be stuck @ 92.3 or 95F so it may not be working correctly
[03:33] <Caroline_wp> Hey Mistform
[03:33] <mistform> just because I had the Synaptic manager open, it wasn't running, but it was there
[03:33] <Caroline_wp> Hey Cyanics
[03:33] <zazeem> hi, isa there any way to see the ubuntu terminal log so i can look back at commands?
[03:33] <TimeKiller> Yeah. it uses the source.list file
[03:33] <Ronz> wheres my hello? =)
[03:33] <CyaniCs|VLC> Caroline_wp: how are you.
[03:33] <TimeKiller> That should work now though
[03:33] <Caroline_wp> Hey Ronz
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> zazeem,  'history' command
[03:33] <Caroline_wp> I am doing good
[03:33] <mistform> yeah, it's going
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> zazeem,  may be worth the effort to rea d a few bash tutorials. :P
[03:34] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc: well, i will what for the patches and play around a bit. thanks for the help
[03:34] <CyaniCs|transcde> chris86wm: not a problem.
[03:34] <zazeem> hmm yes but this only show a little ways back, is there a way to see further back?
[03:34] <TimeKiller> mistform: you could have always searched the repositories in synaptix for xchat too :)
[03:34] <CyaniCs|transcde> mistform: i think xchat gets installed with automatix also
[03:35] <TimeKiller> CyaniCs: it doesn't. At least it didn't when i installed automatix.
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:35] <TimeKiller> *gasp* you mean.. NOT point and click Dr_Williis?
[03:35] <TimeKiller> Instanity!
[03:36] <greenman> hmm...  is disks-admin supposed to only crash?
[03:36] <CyaniCs|transcde> TimeKiller: yeah, it gets install with automatix (just pulled it up)
[03:36] <khan> hi
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> TimeKiller,  go to that KLIK site and use the click - and sort of run feature :P
[03:36] <TimeKiller> CyaniCs: hmm strange. I wonder why i had to apt-get it...
[03:36] <CyaniCs|transcde> TimeKiller: what ubuntu are you on? breezy or dapper?
[03:36] <TimeKiller> dapper
[03:37] <CyaniCs|transcde> TimeKiller: might just be the version on automatix then
[03:37] <mistform> and I'm  on Xchat
[03:37] <TimeKiller> Possible
[03:37] <TimeKiller> hooray for xchat
[03:37] <mistform> whats up w/the red line?
[03:37] <greenman> it won't start firefox either...
[03:37] <CyaniCs|transcde> Dr_Willis: apt-get is easy, remembering all the crap i need to download... that hard.
[03:37] <TimeKiller> mistform: what red line?
[03:37] <TimeKiller> the thin red line?
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> CyaniCs|transcde,  i save my history sand make a script.
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:38] <TimeKiller> That's a great idea Willis
[03:38] <swim> hey folks is there a howto for creating deb packages? (not using checkinstall)
[03:38] <mistform> yeah, this is friggin weird
[03:38] <help-the-n00b> how do i play live feeds with VLC?
[03:38] <tritium> swim: the ubuntu packaging guide
[03:39] <Max007> does anyone able to make broadcom wifi adapter under 6.06 ?
[03:39] <swim> tritium: ok Ill look for it
[03:39] <swim> thx
[03:39] <tritium> swim: System->Help->System Documentation :)
[03:39] <slobokan> mistform: that red line in xchat is the last line that was displayed to you before you looked at another app, etc. then came back to xchat
[03:39] <mistform> ah, ok ;)
[03:39] <benplaut> or looked at a different channel
[03:39] <swim> thanks tritium
[03:39] <tritium> swim: no sweat
[03:39] <help-the-n00b> how do i play live feeds with VLC?
[03:40] <CyaniCs|dubedube> mistform: personally, i use konversation instead of xchat
[03:40] <help-the-n00b> 790 people and noone to help me?
[03:40] <nrdb> I have a new install of ubuntu on one of my computers it once you enter the name/password it shows a blank brown screen for a minute or so before loging in.  any sugestions on what to do?
[03:40] <benplaut> CyaniCs|dubedube: probably not a great idea to recommend it to someone who is most likely a gnome user
[03:40] <chicken_Fire> anyone having problems with ati x1600 cards?
[03:40] <help-the-n00b> jrib, are you here?
[03:40] <benplaut> 70mb of deps, about
[03:41] <CyaniCs|dubedube> benplaut: good point ;-P
[03:41] <greenman> exit
[03:41] <greenman> exit
[03:41] <CyaniCs|dubedube> benplaut: but then again... im using konversation in gnome.
[03:41] <Max007> does anyone able to make broadcom wifi adapter under 6.06 ?
[03:41] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: go to file>open network stream
[03:41] <Max007> does anyone able to make broadcom wifi adapter work under 6.06 ?
[03:41] <kazukisan> Anyone here know what this java error means ----->>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19352
[03:41] <help-the-n00b> benplaut,  Yay? That's all?
[03:42] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: then enter the URL into whatever type it is... probably http
[03:42] <help-the-n00b> But I don't know waht I want to listen to.
[03:42] <mistform> help-the-n00b: what do you need?
[03:42] <help-the-n00b> I just want music.
[03:42] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: what kind of music?
[03:43] <mistform> u want music, as in .mp3 files, or you want a player to play music?
[03:43] <help-the-n00b> Preferably all american rejects or Relient K.
[03:43] <mistform> relient K is t3h 5h1zz
[03:43] <help-the-n00b> I want VLC  to play live streaming audio.
[03:43] <benplaut> help-the-n00b:   http://www.publicradiofan.com/
[03:43] <benplaut> find a station that looks good
[03:43] <help-the-n00b> mistform,  Translate?
[03:43] <mistform> lol, Relient K rocks, man
[03:44] <help-the-n00b> Oh.
[03:44] <mistform> Marilyn Manson Ate my Girlfriend
[03:44] <CyaniCs|kungFu> help-the-n00b, try using BEEP-media player instead of VLC
[03:44] <erider> how do you get all the codecs for mplayer?
[03:44] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: streams are kinda like radio stations, but it's alot harder to channel-flip because there are THOUSANDS of channel
[03:44] <help-the-n00b> BEEP?
[03:44] <CyaniCs|kungFu> help-the-n00b, yeap.
[03:44] <benplaut> sudo apt-get install bmp
[03:44] <TimeKiller> http://vfradio.com:8000
[03:44] <help-the-n00b> What's bmp?
[03:45] <CyaniCs|kungFu> help-the-n00b, bmp = bitmap
[03:45] <benplaut> no
[03:45] <benplaut> bmp = beep media player
[03:45] <CyaniCs|kungFu> :-0
[03:45] <TimeKiller> lol
[03:45] <help-the-n00b> Oh.
[03:45] <Ronz> mistform, relient K ftw
[03:45] <help-the-n00b> Lol.
[03:45] <CyaniCs|kungFu> benplaut, i was just kidding.
[03:45] <benplaut> wait, that's not right
[03:45] <mistform> relient K is the funniest christian band I've ever heard
[03:45] <benplaut> it's sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[03:46] <help-the-n00b> Are you a christian?
[03:46] <mistform> no
[03:46] <mistform> but I know good punk and alternative music ;)
[03:46] <tritium> help-the-n00b: that's off-topic here, please
[03:46] <TimeKiller> Me too. They don't play any on the radio anymore though :(
[03:46] <help-the-n00b> tritium, Sorry.
[03:46] <theboywhogotlost> Ok I uncommented the universe Lines in /etc/apt/sources.list but I still cannot get bluefish
[03:46] <benplaut> !offtopic
[03:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:47] <kazukisan> Anyone here know what this java error means ----->>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19352
[03:47] <benplaut> theboywhogotlost: now type this:  sudo apt-get update
[03:47] <tritium> help-the-n00b: that's okay :)
[03:47] <benplaut> theboywhogotlost: then it will show up in your packages list
[03:48] <theboywhogotlost> Ah thanks
[03:49] <help-the-n00b> I have BMP and .bmp!
[03:49] <swim> is there any decent flash development app for linux?
[03:49] <help-the-n00b> Good question.
[03:50] <help-the-n00b> I would like one too.
[03:50] <benplaut> swim: not really, but flash itself can be emulated quite well using either WINE or Crossover Office
[03:50] <swim> f4l's last release was in 2005
[03:50] <swim> hrmm ok
[03:50] <help-the-n00b> Is there any .swf animation program?
[03:50] <nuaimat> hello
[03:51] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: same answer
[03:51] <benplaut> nuaimat: hola :)
[03:51] <nuaimat> is there any quick way to make ubuntu dapper a LAMP server ?
[03:51] <help-the-n00b> Agh.
[03:51] <benplaut> !lamp
[03:51] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:51] <TimeKiller> re-install?
[03:51] <nuaimat> benplaut: thanks
[03:51] <benplaut> np
[03:52] <help-the-n00b> Anyone know any Green-day feeds?
[03:52] <benplaut> /j #ubuntu offtopic
[03:52] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: type that
[03:52] <nuaimat> wow @ubotu , how fast ?!?!? oops , how could u type all this in seconds ?? :D even copy-paste will take more time
[03:52] <nuaimat> thank you ubotu
[03:53] <benplaut> natan-: bot ;)
[03:53] <TimeKiller> bots can type 10000000 wpm
[03:53] <help-the-n00b> I did.
[03:53] <benplaut> help-the-n00b: ask in there, not in here
[03:53] <help-the-n00b> Ok.
[03:54] <benplaut> hmm... slow today
[03:55] <help-the-n00b> What is?
[03:55] <benplaut> this channel
[03:55] <help-the-n00b> Oh.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> been busy :P
[03:55] <help-the-n00b> Yeah.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> you joined and everyone left.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:56] <help-the-n00b> It's kinda late though.
[03:56] <theboywhogotlost> lol
[03:56] <benplaut> :)
[03:56] <nuaimat> hey guys , i have a bluetooth adapter , and i am using ubuntu , is there anything like kdebluetooth for ubuntu ??
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> gnome has some bluetooth tools.. but i liked the kde ones better. So i i insalled and ran them
[03:57] <benplaut> probably   sudo apt-get install kdebluetooth
[03:57] <benplaut> gnome-bluetooth exists, i've heard it isn't too great
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> bluetooth is one of those neat ideas - that just dont seem to work as good as it should.
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:57] <jimcooncat> anyone using django? how you like it?
[03:57] <nrdb> I have a new install of ubuntu on one of my computers it once you enter the name/password it shows a blank brown screen for a minute or so before loging in.  any sugestions on what to do?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> I mean wasent about every new printer supposed to come with it... and so on.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> nrdb,  what sort of system?
[03:58] <WiseOdd> hi all :) sb wanna help me with chmod... ihve been trying for the last hour to get it to work... cant fiure out what i am doing wrong...
[03:58] <nrdb> Dr_Willis: ubuntu
[03:58] <sethk> Wiseguy, example:   chmod a+w filename
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> nrdb,  i guessed that :P i mean hardware whise
[03:58] <GuoQ> ehh can someone help me with a quick problem
[03:59] <jimcooncat> WiseOdd, and you have to have permission to change the permissions :-)
[03:59] <WiseOdd> sethk: this is what i have been trying:  sudo chmod ugo+rwx /media/usbdisk/ -r --preserve-root
[03:59] <benplaut> methinks you should probably have all of your flags before the path...
[03:59] <GuoQ> I kinda screwed up the toobar icons a bit and I don't know how to get it back
[03:59] <sethk> WiseOdd, what is the stuff after rwx for?
[03:59] <benplaut> not sure if it makes a difference, but it's good format
[04:00] <sethk> WiseOdd, also, you want -R, not -r
[04:00] <nrdb> Dr_Willis: its a dell computer, it was working great last night, now it stalls for a while just after logging in.
[04:00] <WiseOdd> sethk: dunno what you mean. i read the man and tried do write the command... :)
[04:00] <Masticore> how do I get snd-hda-intel module ?
[04:00] <benplaut> nrdb: does it lag if you log in to gnome safe-mode?
[04:01] <WiseOdd> sethk: /media/usbdisk : file direction
[04:01] <benplaut> if not, then there's a program starting on login taking a long time
[04:01] <subpar> anyone else had a hard time with nvidia video cards?
[04:01] <sethk> WiseOdd, chmod -R a+rwx /media/usbdisk/.
[04:01] <nrdb> benplaut: I haven't tried. do you want me to see?
[04:01] <nuaimat> Dr_Willis: can i run kdeBluetooth under gnome ??? won't it need KDE to run ?
[04:01] <WiseOdd> :sethk: apparently it doesnt matter whether its -r or -R
[04:01] <mistform> I have never had an NVIDIA
[04:01] <subpar> luck soul right there :(
[04:01] <jimcooncat> WiseOdd, take it you can write to this disk with other commands? Some USB disks have a physical read-only switch.
[04:01] <sethk> WiseOdd, since you say it isn't working, how could you know that?
[04:01] <mistform> what should I use to talk on MSN and Y! messenger?
[04:02] <subpar> gaim'll do it
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> nuaimat,  when you install it - it will install some parts of kde
[04:02] <nuaimat> can i run kdeBluetooth under gnome ??? won't it need KDE to run ?
[04:02] <benplaut> nrdb: yea... you can also press alt_f2 type gdmflexiserver and log in, then press ctrl_alt_f7 to get back to this session (or just log out)
[04:02] <mistform> not gaim, I've already tried gaim
[04:02] <WiseOdd> sethk: hehe, thats right :) i hate figuring out syntax.... thx!
[04:02] <nrdb> benplaut: this is a different computer.
[04:03] <jimcooncat> mistform, talk not chat, right?
[04:03] <benplaut> nrdb: yea, then go and try that
[04:03] <mistform> ?
[04:03] <jimcooncat> mistform, microphone not keyboard?
[04:03] <mistform> I want a client that I can talk on MSN and Y! messenger
[04:03] <chicken_Fire> Hi! Ubuntu-dapper 3D support problem: I have an -ATI 3d card x1600 512MB AGP- I installed the package xorg-driver-fglrx, runned the ati-config commands. I get 3d acceleration, can start kde and all. Fine. But if I switch to a console with ctr-alt-F1 and then back to X, my system freezes. help!
[04:03] <mistform> keyboard
[04:04] <mistform> do any of them have webcam support?
[04:04] <bimberi> nuaimat: yes you can - it will need a lot of kde libraries but it does work
[04:04] <Masticore> how do I get snd-hda-intel module ?
[04:04] <WiseOdd> jimmooncat: it doesnt have one, but thx anyhow :)
[04:04] <J-_> sometimes when i browse with firefox, it disappears.... anyone know a solution?
[04:04] <ironclad> hey what is a good c complier for unbuntu
[04:05] <nrdb> benplaut: I reboot and used recovery mode but that didn't start X, should I now use 'startx' for a login
[04:05] <sethk> nrdb, gdm
[04:05] <benplaut> nrdb: no, just turn it on regularly
[04:05] <jimcooncat> mistform, webcam support is a little tough, I heard emsn for MSN and ekiga-ng for yahoo. I tried these a few months ago with marginal success.
[04:05] <bimberi> ironclad: gcc
[04:05] <ironclad> bimberi thanks
[04:05] <benplaut> it's a safe-mode only for gnome... you select it in the sessions menu in gdm
[04:05] <mistform> I just need it for MSN
[04:05] <jimcooncat> mistform, so I just stick to gaim and just chat
[04:05] <mistform> so I can watch
[04:06] <bimberi> !build-essential > ironclad
[04:06] <nrdb> benplaut: it usally runs automatically, do you want me to reboot into the standard way?
[04:06] <benplaut> yea
[04:06] <pk0nink> does anyone know why a pressed game dvd will not mount when burned dvds and movie dvds will?
[04:07] <bimberi> drm? heh
[04:07] <J-_> sometimes when i browse with firefox, it disappears.... anyone have a solution?
[04:07] <williamb> im on a ubuntu live cd because i accidentally overwrote the MBR with a windows one. is there a way to rewrite grub with my settings from before i erased it to the MBR?
[04:07] <ardchoille> !grub
[04:07] <bimberi> !grub
[04:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:07] <Zambezi> Is it risky to use: chmod u+rw /mnt/harddrive2 ?
[04:08] <benplaut> J-_: is it consitantly at certain sites?
[04:08] <J-_> spontanious
[04:08] <nrdb> benplaut: it is now waiting for a login.
[04:08] <benplaut> oh
[04:08] <jimcooncat> mistform, sorry, that was amsn http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[04:08] <sethk> Zambezi, no, but without -R /mnt/harddrive2/. it won't do anything
[04:08] <williamb> i tried the first link but i must not have done something write cause it didnt work. i will retry i guess
[04:08] <J-_> i'll jsut browse, and it'll dissappear
[04:08] <benplaut> now click the menu, go to sessions, and select gnome safe-mode (whatever it's called)
[04:08] <sethk> Zambezi, unless you are trying to chmod the mount point, which won't do what you are thinking it will
[04:09] <benplaut> then log in
[04:09] <nrdb> benplaut: ok
[04:09] <mistform> ty, jimcooncat
[04:09] <Zambezi> sethk, May I explain in PM what I want to achive?
[04:09] <benplaut> J-_: try running firefox from the terminal, and it should give you some sort of error when it closes
[04:09] <J-_> okay
[04:09] <sethk> Zambezi, sure, but if you explain here you'll get just as good an answer, and if I make a mistake someone will flag it.
[04:10] <jroes> should I install the SMP kernel if I'm on a box that has multiple cores?
[04:10] <jroes> or, at least, it seems like it has multiple cores -- in Windows there are two processor graphs
[04:10] <bimberi> jroes: yes
[04:10] <jroes> and on startup I see it saying it ignoring a second cpu
[04:10] <jroes> ok, cool, thankya
[04:10] <bimberi> jroes: np :)
[04:10] <LaGzo> hey everyone
[04:10] <J-_> !pastebin
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:11] <Zambezi> sethk, I need to make folders without sudo. I'm going to put the harddrive in a computer without X. And I want to transfer files to the harddrive via LAN and I can't to that if I make folders with sudo.
[04:11] <mistform> there's also http://pastebin.ca
[04:11] <LaGzo> can anyone help me with permissions or logging into root?
[04:11] <Wishakos> bimberi
[04:11] <Wishakos> can i ask u something on nvu?
[04:11] <jroes> er, I only see 686 and k7
[04:11] <jroes> linux-686-smp ?
[04:11] <nrdb> benplaut: it said it wasn't running any scripts etc. then it paused again :(
[04:12] <Zambezi> LaGzo, Do not use root. It very risky.
[04:12] <benplaut> !tell nrdb about bugs
[04:12] <J-_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19356
[04:12] <jroes> the linux-images only have 386, 686, and k7
[04:12] <Wishakos> anyone using nvu?i have a question
[04:12] <benplaut> nrdb: file a bug report at the link ubotu just gave you... sounds like one
[04:12] <shinobi2> anyone know of good wrapper to run win-modems and windows-wifi?
[04:12] <bimberi> Wishakos: i actually don't know it at all - i'd just heard that it was a good html editor - so you'd be better off asking the channel, seeing if nvu has one :)
[04:12] <benplaut> also, make sure your system is fully up to date
[04:13] <benplaut> shinobi2: are you sure your wifi card isn't supported?
[04:13] <sethk> Zambezi, ok, then it makes sense, but only _after_ the thing is mounted.
[04:13] <bimberi> s/seeing/or seeing/
[04:13] <Wishakos> thx anyway bimberi  it is a nice one indeed
[04:13] <benplaut> winmodems, afaik, can only work using the bought drivers
[04:13] <pricees> hello
[04:14] <Zambezi> sethk, It mounted now and then I try to make a folder it says I don't have access so I need to use sudo. :-(
[04:14] <J-_> anyone look at the pastebin?
[04:14] <Wishakos> anyone using NVU?
[04:15] <benplaut> Wishakos: a bit, yea
[04:15] <InnerF|RE> has anybody gotten Age of empires to work under wine?
[04:15] <Wishakos> benplaut i have a pic in my webpage and i want to put text on it and links and stuff but when i paste them it erases the pic lol
[04:15] <J-_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19356
[04:16] <benplaut> Wishakos: make sure the cursor is below the pic before pasting.  If the image is selected... poof
[04:16] <Wishakos> i cannot paste On the pic?so it is some sort of background
[04:16] <benplaut> J-_: have you tried Evince, the gnome PDF viewer? Reader 7 is pretty buggy
[04:17] <ardchoille> Wishakos: That's ot. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <benplaut> Wishakos: you can, but it starts to get complicated
[04:17] <Wishakos> ardchoille now that it starts to make sense?
[04:17] <benplaut> brb, hold my calls for 5min
[04:17] <J-_> no I haven't.. is that the problem? the pdf reader?
[04:18] <bimberi> J-_: are the crashes related to viewing pdfs or just happen anytime?
[04:18] <J-_> jsut happen anytime.
[04:18] <shinobi2> benplaut: not this wifi, i have atheros. but it did not work, maybe i did something wrong
[04:19] <help-the-n00b> !nullsoft
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about nullsoft - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:19] <J-_> nullsoft? wtf, xmms =D
[04:19] <J-_> !xmms
[04:19] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:19] <phargle> !kotex
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about kotex - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <phargle> !codecs
[04:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:20] <benplaut> shinobi2: atheros usually work
[04:20] <J-_> the thing i like about xmms, is that you can import winamp skins into xmms, help-the-n00b
[04:21] <supernix> I could not believe my eyes has anyone read this http://www.ourtweaks.com/articles/linux.html ?
[04:21] <bimberi> J-_: it does look like a bug then.  You could report it now or investigate further via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingProgramCrash - note that there is a "firefox-dpg" package
[04:21] <the_hammer> whats the commands for installing a build essenual?
[04:21] <help-the-n00b> Is jrib here?
[04:21] <supernix> I aint no genius but this guy sounds like he lost more than one marble
[04:21] <J-_> thanks
[04:21] <bimberi> J-_: er "firefox-dbg" sorry
[04:21] <benplaut> the_hammer:   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:22] <Tennessee> I've got an nvidia 7800 go card, which has both a DVI out and an RGB out. The DVI out works with my second monitor, but I can't work out how to use the RGB for projection.
[04:22] <nrdb> benplaut: you still here?
[04:23] <the_hammer> can u run tcl on ubuntu?
[04:23] <bimberi> J-_: in the meantime there are alternative browsers such as epiphany-browser, although it uses the same rendering engine (gecko) so may crash similarly
[04:24] <Tennessee> the_hammer: yes
[04:24] <bimberi> !info tcl8.4
[04:24] <ubotu> tcl8.4: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.4.12-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1099 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[04:24] <the_hammer> tried the apt-get command but didnt work
[04:25] <Ronz> Tennessee, you may have to edit the xorg.conf file
[04:25] <the_hammer> unavailable
[04:25] <benplaut> g2g for a minute
[04:25] <bimberi> the_hammer: tcl8.4   (apt-cache search tcl)
[04:25] <benplaut> *few minutes
[04:25] <Tennessee> Ronz: That's okay if that's a solution -- do you know what changes I need to make?
[04:25] <J-_> what if i reinstall firefox? will that help?
[04:25] <Ronz> Tennessee, first one i would check is driver then refresh rate
[04:26] <nrdb> I have setup an iptables firewall at what point it best to start this.
[04:26] <jroes> dang
[04:26] <jroes> I think I just got my first kernel panic
[04:26] <Ronz> Tennessee, there is also an nvidia app for doing that if i remember right
[04:26] <booger> hey guys, i have a quick question: WIll MS Office 2003 Work in Wine?
[04:26] <jroes> box locks up at mounting root filesystem
[04:26] <bimberi> J-_: no idea, possibly i guess
[04:26] <the_hammer> ok it appears how can i get it?
[04:26] <J-_> k cool, thanks for the help
[04:27] <Ronz> booger, i dont think so
[04:27] <gekko`> booger: why no openoffice?
[04:27] <bimberi> the_hammer: sudo aptiget install tcl8.4
[04:27] <shinobi2> benplaut: hmm... do you know how i can re-do the installation? i have wifi card turned off during installation.
[04:27] <bimberi> the_hammer:   *apt-get
[04:27] <booger> gekko`, I just don't like it, there's something i don't like, you know?
[04:27] <pingu> jroes, that's pretty common when doing fancy things.
[04:27] <pingu> Not with a normal install though.
[04:27] <Tonren> Hey guys, Gaim and Liferea keep opening up every time I boot.  How do I make them stop?
[04:27] <booger> Ronz, any reason why you think that?
[04:28] <J-_> err why use wine? there's too many vulnerbilities, and you can use programs like abiword or openoffice...
[04:28] <gekko`> Tonren: check ~/.kde/Autostart/
[04:28] <help-the-n00b> What's Lifera?
[04:28] <bimberi> Tonren: System -> Preferences -> Sessions,  Startup Programs tab
[04:28] <booger> J-_, I am just not liking openoffice, i'm so used to MS office i guess
[04:28] <EpP> hey Kaffein doesnt play sound.
[04:28] <nrdb> I have setup an iptables firewall at what point it best to start this.
[04:28] <the_hammer> and pearl apt-get didnt find
[04:28] <Ronz> booger, a few reasons. I remember reading on winehq that it was not supported and 2k3 has to validate via internet
[04:28] <Recks> Is there a program to watch streaming internet video?
[04:28] <Linkiboy> Hi guys... I just installed ubuntu successfully
[04:28] <J-_> check out abiword if you're jsut using  the word processor. it's pretty good.
[04:29] <Linkiboy> but how do I get root access?
[04:29] <help-the-n00b> Recks, Wow.
[04:29] <Ronz> sudo -i
[04:29] <booger> Linkiboy, sudo
[04:29] <matthew_> ssssssssss
[04:29] <nrdb> Recks: have you checked out mplayer?
[04:29] <the_hammer> lol
[04:29] <bimberi> the_hammer: do you mean 'perl'? it should already be installed
[04:29] <gekko`> booger: well, with crossover office it would work, but not as fast as in windows
[04:29] <Recks> uhmmm no...
[04:29] <Linkiboy> sudo doesnt let me >_>
[04:29] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in?
[04:29] <the_hammer> ok cool
[04:29] <Ronz> that will give you a root terminal, Linkiboy
[04:29] <matthew_> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[04:29] <booger> gekko`, what is that?
[04:29] <matthew_> biraz sus lo
[04:29] <GuoQ> can someone help with a minor panel problem in gnome??? =/
[04:29] <help-the-n00b> Recks, You should have been here a few minutes ago.
[04:29] <Recks> lol
[04:29] <Recks> okay
[04:29] <matthew_> ya kapa cenen8i
[04:29] <Recks> so what's goin on?
[04:29] <EpP> Kaffien wont play sound... and mplayer wont play mpeg...
[04:29] <Recks> get Mplayer?
[04:29] <booger> Ronz, Let's say i had an "altered" version of office, would that also need the net to connect?
[04:29] <minerale> How may one produce accented (alphanumeric) characters, such as e with an accent on top? In windows this is something like alt + 138, is there a similar way to do this in X? (and where would I find a chart of the codes vs characters ?)
[04:30] <bl3ssing> GuoQ, if I can help you, I'll be dellight ... :D
[04:30] <help-the-n00b> Recks,  VLC.
[04:30] <Linkiboy> i try to uninstall ndiswrapper... using sudo uninstall but i get that im not allowed to
[04:30] <Recks> kk
[04:30] <help-the-n00b> Recks,  sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:30] <GuoQ> is that an offer bl3ssing?
[04:30] <GuoQ> :D
[04:30] <Recks> and it can watch like shoutcast video streams?
[04:30] <bl3ssing> GuoQ, so ... what's the pb? :)
[04:30] <Linkiboy> "sudo make uninstall"
[04:30] <bl3ssing> hehhehe GuoQ. Not at all. :)
[04:30] <bl3ssing> hehheeh
[04:30] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in?
[04:30] <GuoQ> well I was organizing the top panel
[04:30] <GuoQ> and I accidentally removed the taskbar icon for gaim
[04:30] <bl3ssing> ok? and ... ??
[04:31] <Ronz> booger, try it. a new version of wine just came out. you can't hurt anything. =P
[04:31] <GuoQ> and I have no idea how to get it to show up again
[04:31] <Recks> So VLC can watch shoutcast video streams?
[04:31] <ardchoille> GuoQ: Right click the panel, choose Add to panel, find the notoficatio area applet and drag it to the panel
[04:31] <booger> Ronz, haha, okay, i just don't want to break sh**...so if you don't think i can, then its cool with me!
[04:31] <gekko`> booger: it's a commercial wine mod. it's specialised in supporting ms office products
[04:32] <bl3ssing> click right on the panel, ->> add ... find what you have to put back and ... drag into the panel.
[04:32] <booger> gekko`, commercial meaning i have to pay for it?
[04:32] <bl3ssing> and ... here's the pb fixed. :D
[04:32] <GuoQ> oh!
[04:32] <gekko`> booger: yes, you should try wine first
[04:32] <bl3ssing> ardchoille, said this to you too. :D
[04:32] <GuoQ> that was awfully easy -_-
[04:32] <Ronz> booger, worst case scenerio, you delete the office 2k3 directory
[04:32] <bl3ssing> gekko`, no more wine ...
[04:32] <bl3ssing> :D
[04:32] <bl3ssing> lol GuoQ.
[04:32] <GuoQ> thanks bl3ssing and ardchoille!
[04:33] <help-the-n00b> Where can I get transparent windows?
[04:33] <booger> gekko`, eff that, i'm not paying for that crap
[04:33] <ardchoille> GuoQ: You're welcome :)
[04:33] <Recks> Damn it I don't want a program that streams video I want one that can watch shoutcast video streams lol
[04:33] <booger> :)
[04:33] <Ronz> booger, then use OO
[04:33] <Ronz> lol
[04:33] <help-the-n00b> Recks,  VLC
[04:33] <gekko`> booger: as I said, try it with wine or use oo
[04:33] <help-the-n00b> Or at least transparent window borders>
[04:33] <Recks> I have it
[04:33] <help-the-n00b> Or at least transparent window borders?*
[04:33] <gekko`> !eterm
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about eterm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:33] <gekko`> help-the-n00b: search for eterm
[04:33] <booger> gekko`, I'll give it a shot and report back, Thanks man. :)
[04:34] <Recks> help-the-n00b:  How would I view avaliable shoutcast video streams?
[04:34] <booger> Ronz, thanks for all the help man, i really appreciate it.
[04:34] <Ronz> np booger
[04:34] <iNick> do y'all mind if I ask a xubuntu question here?
[04:34] <Ronz> you can also check http://www.winehq.com for compatable apps
[04:34] <Ronz> NO!  </sarcasm>
[04:35] <help-the-n00b> Find a stream.
[04:35] <Recks> okay lol
[04:35] <bimberi> iNick: feel free to try, there is #xubuntu though
[04:35] <Ronz> err...i meant we dont mind, but ask away
[04:35] <iNick> ronz: was that to me?
[04:35] <Recks> there's no way to get a list of streams through the app lol
[04:35] <Ronz> i meant yes we mind </sarcasm>
[04:35] <Ronz> lol
[04:35] <Recks> meh I'm lazy the quicker the better ;-)
[04:35] <help-the-n00b> File > open network stream(or something similar)
[04:35] <booger> Haha...One other question...How do i Mount an ISO?
[04:35] <Recks> kk
[04:35] <help-the-n00b> and enter stream url there/
[04:35] <Recks> kk
[04:37] <citizen> booger: run this command: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom
[04:37] <bl3ssing> how can I install my firefox files directly from my home directory where the files resides in? CAN ANYBODY HELP ME PLEASE? I have this problems since days ago, and ... still HERE! Can't believe it. I don't know how to install a file from command konsole. :(((((( Uaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... Mammmyyyyyy
[04:37] <bl3ssing> :d
[04:37] <booger> citizen, sweet, thank you sir.
[04:37] <williamb> whats a good newsreader for ubuntu
[04:37] <mwe> thunderbird
[04:37] <nondysjunction> hello
[04:38] <mistform> I want a really dark theme
[04:38] <iNick> anybody able to offer help on FreeNX on (x)ubuntu?
[04:38] <mistform> like, almost totally black
[04:38] <nondysjunction> What are the differences between dapper-desktop dapper-server and dapper-alternative?
[04:39] <ardchoille> mistform: http://art.gnome.org  and  http://gnome-look.org
[04:39] <mistform> none of the gnome-look will work
[04:39] <mwe> nondysjunction: the default package collection
[04:39] <mistform> keeps saying Invalid Format
[04:39] <williamb> im having troubles downloading libgmime2.1
[04:39] <mwe> nondysjunction: well the alternative installer is text mode
[04:39] <ardchoille> mistform: Then you're doing it wrong
[04:39] <bl3ssing> how can I find files in aptitude?
[04:39] <cius> mistform, sometimes people package their themes wrong
[04:39] <booger> citizen, how do i then unmount?
[04:40] <cius> mistform, try opening up the archive to see whats inside
[04:40] <nondysjunction> mwe: that's the only difference between alternative, then?
[04:40] <mwe> bl3ssing: find files?
[04:40] <bruenig> dapper-alternative is a textual install
[04:40] <nondysjunction> thanks!
[04:40] <mwe> nondysjunction: the installer generally better but less beautyful
[04:41] <ardchoille> mistform: I'd be willing to help you install a theme in gnome. If you want help, /join #ardchoille
[04:41] <Sgtslaughter> Hi
[04:41] <iNick> i'm accepting offers for FreeNX help here!
[04:42] <Bonez> hi, i'm currently setting up mythtv for the first time and I have added a video source, but it fails to get my guide data. when i look in the terminal it says "sh tv_grab_au: command not found" can anyone please help?
[04:42] <bl3ssing> mwe, yes.
[04:42] <mwe> bl3ssing: what do you mean. like what package provides a file?
[04:42] <easynintendo> is kde 3.5.3 in the repositories?
[04:42] <bimberi> !freenx
[04:42] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[04:43] <mwe> bl3ssing: I think you need to use apt-file for that
[04:43] <defendguin> did something in a recent update break the screensaver?
[04:43] <Bonez> hi, i'm currently setting up mythtv for the first time and I have added a video source, but it fails to get my guide data. when i look in the terminal it says "sh tv_grab_au: command not found" can anyone please help?
[04:43] <defendguin> it hasnt worked in days since i did that
[04:44] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[04:44] <booger> can someone tell me how to unmount the cd i just mounted?
[04:44] <mwe> easynintendo: you need to add a repo.
[04:45] <shawnr_> uumount
[04:45] <shawnr_> 1 u
[04:45] <shawnr_> umount
[04:45] <booger> ok
[04:45] <nrdb> booger: you can also umount via the icon on the desktop.
[04:45] <shawnr_> booger, man umount
[04:46] <booger> nrdb, i tried that, but i get an error "/media/cdrom0 disagrees with the fstab
[04:46] <orbital04> hi, anyone handy with wireless/dhcp?
[04:47] <sktx> howdy folks
[04:47] <sktx> so
[04:47] <williamb> im having trouble installing the package libgmime2.1 and its preventing me from downloading other things like thunderbird etc
[04:47] <booger> Just so you all know; MS office 2003 will not install with wine..oh well :)
[04:48] <Ronz> thx booger =P
[04:48] <booger> hahaha
[04:48] <sktx> i just installed (or rather, tried to install) ubuntu from the server disk, and the bloody thing hangs right as soon as it gets out of grub. anyone else had this problem? or know what i could do about it?
[04:49] <Linkiboy> Hi guys... I just tried to uninstall ndiswrapper...
[04:49] <Linkiboy> but
[04:49] <Linkiboy> i give myself root
[04:49] <Ronz> sktx, what type of computer is it?
[04:49] <Linkiboy> and "cd ndiswrapper-1.21"
[04:49] <Linkiboy> doesn't work
[04:50] <Linkiboy> it's located in home/georgiy
[04:50] <Ronz> Linkiboy, did you install it as root?
[04:50] <Linkiboy> it came preinstalled
[04:50] <Ronz> use apt to uninstall it. =)
[04:51] <sktx> ronz: just your average everyday laptop, i386 arch.. it's a pavillion zt3000
[04:51] <Linkiboy> is that a command line tool? apt?
[04:51] <Ronz> sktx, zt ftw! ive got a dv1000
[04:51] <Ronz> ok sktx ...did you download the iso?
[04:51] <sktx> haha
[04:52] <citizen> booger: sudo unmount /media/cdrom
[04:52] <sktx> yeah i got the server iso from ubuntu.com not 15 minutes ago
[04:52] <mwe> citizen: umount
[04:52] <sktx> i couldn't find a way to install the server version from my shipit cds
[04:52] <citizen> whoops :-X
[04:52] <Ronz> ok sktx , heres the description of the *server* cd
[04:52] <Ronz> The server install CD allows you to install Ubuntu permanently on a computer for use as a server. It will not install a graphical user interface.
[04:52] <orbital04> does anyone know how to request an IP from a dhcp server from the commandline to troubleshoot the network?
[04:53] <defendguin> shouldnt some gnome-screensaver program be running in the background to start the screen saver when the system is idle?
[04:53] <mwe> orbital04: sudo dhclient <interface>
[04:53] <jkitchen> anyone ever installed (k)ubuntu onto a raid0 configured with a sil3114 sata raid controller?
[04:53] <Ronz> sktx, install it w/ the desktop CD and it will work like a charm
[04:53] <sktx> Ronz: yep that's what i was going for: a minimal installation with no window manager
[04:53] <Bonez> Hi, i'm using MythTV and when I try to scan channels it says: Error locking to transport. can anyone help?
[04:53] <bruenig> sktx, all you have to do is sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop and it's exactly the same
[04:53] <orbital04> will that use it's own config files?
[04:53] <sktx> Ronz: i was going for barebones, clean install, so i could put openbox on it
[04:54] <mikefrmnz> Theres something that is confusing me - if your cd drives etc are under /mnt then / can not be the HDD because the CDROM isnt a directory under the hdd???????
[04:54] <Ronz> sktx, then i would say to hit ctrl + alt + f1 or 2 (cant remember) and just come up w/ a terminal
[04:54] <jkitchen> mikefrmnz: ahh.. the joys of learning the unix filesystem :)
[04:54] <mwe> mikefrmnz: it doesnt work like that
[04:54] <sktx> so anyway
[04:54] <shawnr_> lol
[04:54] <jkitchen> mikefrmnz: the cdrom is actually placed into /mnt/cdrom or whatnot
[04:55] <mwe> mikefrmnz: you can mount anything anywhere
[04:55] <sktx> does anyone have a solution to the problem i've got? the damned thing hangs as soon as it tries to load the kernel after a fresh server install
[04:55] <shawnr_> or sometimes /media
[04:55] <Ronz> and mikefrmnz , /dev is where drives is located
[04:55] <Ronz> and are mounted to /media or /mnt
[04:55] <mikefrmnz> It just seems confusing that / is the root dir of the hdd but you have devices and other roots of drives under it? - sorry been using fat/ntfs for 10 years
[04:55] <blinker> is anyones repository updater working? i've been trying to update and it only times out
[04:56] <mwe> sktx: does it spit an error?
[04:56] <sktx> nope
[04:56] <sktx> just cold hangs
[04:56] <jkitchen> mikefrmnz: you're thinking too much of windows
[04:56] <Ronz> lol mikefrmnz .
[04:56] <orbital04> sudo dhclient <interface> is good, is there a verbose mode?
[04:56] <mwe> sktx: hmm. can you boot to recovery mode?
[04:56] <sktx> the last message i get is "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel" or something like that
[04:56] <jkitchen> *nix doesn't have a "c drive" or a "d drive"
[04:56] <jkitchen> it has a "root filesystem" and everything is mounted within there
[04:56] <sktx> mwe: nope, i tried that, i get a solid hang with that too
[04:57] <jkitchen> imagine taking your D: drive and putting it in C;\program files\
[04:57] <Bonez> Hi, i'm using MythTV and when I try to scan channels it says: Error locking to transport. can anyone help?
[04:57] <jkitchen> that's essentially what it is doing
[04:57] <sktx> it makes me thing that the kernel that grub is trying to load
[04:57] <williamb> im having trouble installing the package libgmime2.1 and its preventing me from downloading other things like thunderbird etc
[04:57] <supernix> how large is the repository ?
[04:57] <sktx> is faulty
[04:57] <shawnr_> jkitchen, lol
[04:57] <deoryp> hello, could i get someone to help me mount my \dev\lp0
[04:57] <mwe> sktx: maybe it's broken. what's your arch?
[04:57] <sktx> i386
[04:57] <shawnr_> williamb, what error are you getting
[04:57] <Ronz> what filesystem is it, deoryp ?
[04:57] <mwe> sktx: hmm.
[04:57] <mikefrmnz> Ima go read some beginners linux ebooks hahaha brb
[04:57] <Ronz> deoryp, mount -t
[04:58] <BalinTwoSwords> Hey, if I dual boot linux and XP, I should be able to get the files from XP onto linux right?
[04:58] <Ronz> *mount -t <fs> \dev\lp0 <mountpoint>
[04:58] <deoryp> Ronz: not sure, it is should be the first chan in my parallel port
[04:58] <mwe> sktx: it sounds to me like the kernel image could be damaged
[04:58] <Ronz> BalinTwoSwords, you will ahve to mount the drive. but yest
[04:58] <Evil_Ed`> sup
[04:58] <supernix> Uptime: 5 days and 39 minutes
[04:58] <sktx> that's what i was thinking... i did the little cd checker thing too
[04:58] <Evil_Ed`> private
[04:58] <sktx> and it said everything was fine
[04:58] <BalinTwoSwords> Alright, I believe it's mounted
[04:59] <sktx> maybe i could install the breezy server and dist-upgrade?
[04:59] <BalinTwoSwords> but I can't access hdb2
[04:59] <williamb> shawnr_, ackage libgmime2.1 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:59] <williamb> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:59] <williamb> is only available from another source
[04:59] <williamb> E: Package libgmime2.1 has no installation candidate
[04:59] <williamb> woops sorry about the quad post
[04:59] <deoryp> Ronz: lp0 is not in my list when i do a plain mount command
[04:59] <BalinTwoSwords> even though I changed the permission on hdb2 to my account
[04:59] <BalinTwoSwords> I don't really understand what's going wrong
[04:59] <shawnr_> williamb, what are you using to install
[04:59] <mwe> sktx: well it could have gone wrong when it was copied to the hdd
[05:00] <mikefrmnz> Is there a manual for Ubuntu 6.06 that I can print out - with all tech stuff like editing fstab etc /etc
[05:00] <shawnr_> lol
[05:00] <shawnr_> yea sure
[05:00] <williamb> shawnr_, sudo apt-get install libgmime2.1
[05:00] <sktx> mwe: that's what i figured, so i tried installing it two more times
[05:00] <shawnr_> www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:00] <mikefrmnz> thx man
[05:00] <sktx> and got the same result each time
[05:00] <mwe> sktx: oh
[05:00] <deoryp> Ronz: i have made the hardware to do this: http://iacoma.cs.uiuc.edu/~greskamp/hardware/lcd/index.html
[05:00] <mwe> sktx: not likely then I guess
[05:00] <sktx> eyah
[05:00] <shawnr_> williamb, one sec
[05:01] <mistform> booyah, son!!!
[05:01] <deoryp> Ronz: but i don;t seem to be talking to the lp0 port
[05:01] <williamb> shawnr_,  ok thanks
[05:01] <mistform> now I just need to setup my mail ;)
[05:01] <sktx> mwe: what do you think about installing from the breezy server disc and doing a dist-upgrade?
[05:01] <supernix> >>> does anyone know how large the ubuntu repository is ?
[05:01] <sktx> supernix: pretty darn big
[05:01] <mwe> sktx: and it's just after it's uncompressing the image?
[05:01] <mof> i have a problem with the Australian repositories, after an update notification i get a 404 error. Can any body help? W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop/gnome-about_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:01] <mof>   404 Not Found
[05:01] <Whyvas> 3 terabytes
[05:01] <supernix> ty sktx
[05:01] <sktx> supernix: hehe
[05:01] <supernix> hmmm wow Whyvas
[05:01] <supernix> that is large
[05:01] <sktx> mwe: yep
[05:01] <Whyvas> im making it up
[05:02] <sktx> mwe: just cold hangs and does nothing after that
[05:02] <mwe> sktx: well in theory it would work but I'm worried you'd get problems again if the kernel is causing it
[05:02] <supernix> oh crud
[05:02] <supernix> I was going to try and make a DVD or it so i could update some PCs that are not able to access the net
[05:02] <gekko`> mof: try a apt-get update and try it again
[05:03] <shawnr_> williamb, what packages say they require that
[05:03] <orbital04> mwe: thanks, i'll try that next time i'm around the offensive network!:)
[05:03] <williamb> thunderbird, pan newsreader
[05:03] <sktx> mwe: yeah but.. what i'm thinking is, it's not the latest version of the ubuntu-patched kernel
[05:03] <mwe> sktx: well if you could boot the cd and get to mount the partition you could remove the "quiet" option from the kernel boot line so you could see what's going on when it dies
[05:03] <shawnr_> nah
[05:03] <sktx> oooooo
[05:03] <shawnr_> thats not right
[05:03] <supernix> someone recommended using apt-proxy but the only problem is there is no such program
[05:03] <sktx> good call mwe
[05:03] <blinker> can someone please give me a hand with repository updating? I'm getting the following as part of my error message
[05:03] <blinker> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg: Could not connect to 192.168:8080 (192.0.0.168)
[05:03] <koshi> Anyone know where I can find NEW themes for my User Interface ( on Xubuntu )
[05:03] <supernix> or at least not one on my PC that is
[05:03] <sktx> i'm gonna try that, i'll be back in a few minutes
[05:03] <shawnr_> williamb, libgmime2.1 is only avail in the unstable repositories
[05:04] <blinker> (note the IP)
[05:04] <shawnr_> i have thunderbird and don't have that package installed
[05:04] <mistform> what was the name of the chipset drivers for Intel Truemobile cards?  they are in Inspirions and Latitudes
[05:04] <shawnr_> williamb, how are you installing thunderbird
[05:04] <williamb> shawnr_, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[05:04] <jrsims> what happened to my address bar in my file manager, and how do I get it back?
[05:05] <mof> no i still get 404 on every package.?
[05:05] <shawnr_> williamb, you running gnome?
[05:05] <williamb> shawnr_, yup. ubuntu
[05:05] <shawnr_> williamb, run "sudo apt-get remove mozilla-thunderbird"
[05:06] <J-_> anyone know how i can embed the terminal onto the desktop so i don't have to click on an icon or whatever?
[05:06] <koshi> Ive been wanting to embed the terminal too
[05:06] <shawnr_> williamb, then try to install it from "Add/Remove Programs" in your drop down menu
[05:06] <koshi> Good question
[05:06] <williamb> shawnr_, Package mozilla-thunderbird is not installed, so not removed
[05:06] <blinker> quite
[05:06] <gekko`> J-_: use eterm
[05:06] <J-_> !eterm
[05:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about eterm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:06] <Shak-> is there a commandd to deactivate/activate my wifi connection? for some reason it keeps dying out..
[05:07] <shawnr_> williamb, then try to install it from "Add/Remove Programs" in your drop down menu
[05:07] <J-_> what's eterm? a terminal?
[05:07] <david__> yes
[05:07] <koshi> Shak: System > Networking
[05:08] <mwe> Shak-: sudo ifdown <interface>
[05:08] <knapper> Whats a good alternative to gwget? (since, imo, gwget is horrible)
[05:08] <lavi> Hikaru79,      any tool can help on converting the files from dos to unix?
[05:08] <mwe> knapper: wget
[05:08] <lavi> Hikaru79, any tool can help on converting the files from dos to unix?
[05:08] <Shak-> mwe: so ifdown then ifup?
[05:08] <Unintentional> what program(s) would I use if I wanted to graphically log into my Ubuntu computer from windows?
[05:08] <mwe> Shak-: yeah
[05:08] <david__> cgywin?
[05:08] <Shak-> mwe: cool thanks
[05:09] <shawnr_> Unintentional, why would you want to do that
[05:09] <lavi> any tool can help on converting the files from dos to unix?
[05:09] <Unintentional> trying to keep my server in the basement.  no monitor.  I want to log in on via my laptop, but want to use gnome apps too.
[05:09] <lavi> maybe some options can avoid it?
[05:09] <williamb> shawnr_, it syas it cannot install mozilla thunderbird because "...this application would mean that something else needs to be removed...
[05:10] <Shak-> mwe: is there a way to make a shortcut that runs: ifdown eth1; ifup eth1
[05:10] <shawnr_> williamb, thats ok
[05:10] <mwe> Shak-: yes
[05:10] <shawnr_> williamb, click advanced button
[05:10] <mistform> !wifi
[05:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <mwe> Shak-: you need to sudo the commands as well though
[05:10] <gus_> someone using Skippy ?
[05:10] <jrsims> hey, in Gnome, I recall I used to be able to see a directory location in a taskbar, kinda like in Windows. But after I upgraded from Breezy, that bar went away. Anyone know what happened to it? I found it useful and want it back.
[05:10] <williamb> shawnr_, where is the advanced button lol
[05:11] <Shak-> mwe: hmm if I put sudo in there, the command wont run will it (break because of the password prompt)
[05:11] <shawnr_> williamb, on the bottom left of add/remove programs
[05:11] <mwe> Shak-: mkdir ~/bin
[05:11] <williamb> im on breezy badger, is that a new version thing? all i see is search and clear results
[05:11] <AJ004> hello
[05:11] <Shak-> mwe: ok
[05:11] <philhinz> jrsims:  Hit Ctrl-L in a nautilus window
[05:12] <AJ004> if you get an os failure
[05:12] <AJ004> on bootup
[05:12] <Shak-> mwe: and then?
[05:12] <mwe> Shak-: the echo 'ifdown <interface> && ifup <interface>' > ~/bin/ifdup.sh
[05:12] <shawnr_> williamb, that will put you in synaptic package manager
[05:12] <J-_> what the heck... installed eterm, and there's no icon in the menu
[05:12] <AJ004> does this mean the mbr is bad?
[05:12] <AJ004> os failure = mbr right?
[05:12] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[05:12] <jrsims> philhinz: ok cool. but is there a way to get the location bar back?
[05:12] <shawnr_> williamb, from there click search, and do a search for "mozilla-thunderbird"
[05:12] <Recks> How does one install a windows application using wine?
[05:13] <mwe> Shak-: then echo 'gksudo sh ~/bin/ifdup.sh' >~/bin/gifdup.sh
[05:13] <shawnr_> Recks, wine install.exe
[05:13] <bl3ssing> how can I find new repository net addresses where I could download the newest up to date files?
[05:13] <gus_> Recks, wine installer.exe
[05:13] <williamb> from the add applications thing?
[05:13] <Recks> kk
[05:13] <mwe> Shak-: then chmod +x ~/bin/gifdup.sh
[05:13] <blinker> bl3ssing:  I second that question
[05:13] <philhinz> Yes, there is a check box under Edit->Preferences-> Behavior
[05:13] <shawnr_> williamb, your killn me lol. yes. or system>synaptic package manager
[05:13] <mwe> Shak-: then right click the desktop and make a shortcut the gifdup.sh
[05:14] <mwe> Shak-: should work I think
[05:14] <williamb> lol i clicked on them and it gives the same error
[05:14] <Shak-> mwe: do I have to create the files as root?
[05:14] <Bonez> does anyone know if there is an alternative to mythtv?
[05:14] <shawnr_> williamb, are you in synaptic?
[05:14] <mwe> Shak-: no you don't do that
[05:14] <Shak-> I get a perm denied error when I go to echo 'gksudo sh..'
[05:14] <Shak-> oh
[05:14] <J-_> i  installed eterm, and there's no icon in the menu.. "killall gnome-panel" doesn't make an icon appear either.
[05:14] <Recks> run wine installer.exe from shell?
[05:14] <mwe> Shak-: huh?
[05:14] <shawnr_> Recks, yes
[05:14] <mwe> Shak-: what did you type?
[05:15] <Shak-> mwe: then echo 'gksudo sh ~/bin/ifdup.sh' >~/bin/gifdup.sh
[05:15] <Recks> I type that and it says module not found.
[05:15] <Bonez> does anyone know if there is an alternative to mythtv?
[05:15] <Shak-> after doing that line I get a permission denied error o_O
[05:15] <shawnr_> Recks, how did you install wine
[05:15] <mwe> Shak-: did you mkdir ~/bin first?
[05:15] <Recks> through the add/remove option
[05:15] <Shak-> mwe: yup
[05:15] <Shak-> mwe: the first echo went fine
[05:15] <shawnr_> williamb, are you in synaptic?
[05:16] <mwe> Shak-: odd
[05:16] <Shak-> mwe: ahh nevermind, I was inside the ~/bin directory
[05:16] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[05:16] <Bonez> does anyone know if there is an alternative to mythtv?
[05:16] <gekko`> J-_: then make an entry in your gnome panel
[05:16] <mwe> Shak-: so chmod +x the latter now
[05:16] <Shak-> mwe: ok, done
[05:17] <Shak-> now, can I make a keyboard shortcut to that shell script? or is an icon the only way?
[05:17] <philhinz> jrsims:   Yes, there is a check box under Edit->Preferences-> Behavior
[05:17] <mwe> Shak-: test it from the cli
[05:17] <anthraxs> http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/index2.php
[05:17] <anthraxs> http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/index2.php
[05:17] <jrsims> philhinz: k
[05:17] <MrKeuner> hi, why does uninstalling require uninstalling jdk too?
[05:17] <mwe> Shak-: ~/bin/gifdup.sh
[05:17] <MrKeuner> hi, why does uninstalling sun-jre require uninstalling sun-jdk too?
[05:17] <Shak-> mwe: k, I might lose connection to irc though?
[05:17] <J-_> gekko`: add/remove apps?
[05:17] <rishi> Hi All
[05:17] <mwe> Shak-: then come back
[05:17] <Shak-> mwe: k
[05:17] <shawnr_> MrKeuner, what? lol be more specific. maybe because of deps
[05:17] <gekko`> J-_: i think so
[05:18] <shawnr_> Recks, are you providing the correct path
[05:18] <jrsims> philhinz: "always use text-entry location bar"? That box is checked.
[05:18] <rishi> Question, i am dual booting windows, and i need to add windows back into grub.  I think i know how to do it, but how do i find out what partition my windows is on?
[05:18] <shawnr_> Recks, did you run wincfg (or wineconfig) i forget which one
[05:18] <Recks> wincfg
[05:18] <Recks> I mean winecfg
[05:18] <Recks> I ran that
[05:18] <MrKeuner> shawnr_/ why does jdk depend on jre then?
[05:18] <rishi> shawnr_, wimecfg
[05:18] <Recks> it brings up the config window
[05:18] <Recks> I added winamp to it
[05:18] <philhinz> jrsims:  Yes, that should pop up the location bar whenever you bring up a new window.
[05:18] <Recks> and I don't know what to do from there
[05:19] <Recks> I added the installation file
[05:19] <Shak-> hmm mwe, the ifdown/ifup commands themself dont seem to work properly
[05:19] <jrsims> philhinz: weird. it doesn't
[05:19] <shawnr_> whay does jdk depend on jre? are you serious
[05:19] <Shak-> mwe: would it make a difference if I had a static ip?
[05:19] <MrKeuner> shawnr_/ yes?
[05:19] <williamb> shawnr_, thank you very much. its working now.
[05:19] <J-_> gekko`: it's not there.
[05:19] <MrKeuner> shawnr_/ I thought jre is a subset of ldk as sun distributes it
[05:20] <rishi> could someone please tell me how to find out which partition number is which
[05:20] <gekko`> J-_: then use google, i dont use gnome
[05:20] <philhinz> jrsims:  Hmm. It does on mine.  And unchecking makes it go away.
[05:20] <shawnr_> williamb, are you there?
[05:20] <mistform> is there a default folder for my pics?
[05:20] <rishi> I'm trying to find which partition has my XP install, can someone help
[05:20] <mwe> Shak-: what did you type exactly?
[05:20] <jrsims> philhinz: yeah, I've turned it off and turned it back on to see if it worked. It doesn't.
[05:20] <Shak-> mwe: I just tried it without the shell script, ifdown eth1
[05:20] <Shak-> then ifup eth1
[05:20] <mistform> scandisk
[05:21] <mwe> Shak-: yes
[05:21] <jrsims> philhinz: I got dapper by upgrading from breezy. maybe the upgrade broke something.
[05:21] <mwe> Shak-: and?
[05:21] <farous> rishi: is it mounted
[05:21] <Shak-> mwe:
[05:21] <rishi> yeah
[05:21] <rishi> farous, yeah
[05:21] <Shak-> send_packet: Network is unreachable
[05:21] <farous> rishi: cat /etc/mtab
[05:21] <Recks> okay
[05:21] <Recks> so I have it in the applications tab
[05:21] <farous> look at the line where it say vfat or ntfs
[05:21] <Recks> so what would I do
[05:21] <Shak-> it did a DHCPRELEASE first, then it gave that sendpacket error
[05:22] <Shak-> when I tried ifup, it just does DHCPDISCOVER endlessly
[05:22] <Shak-> so I manually used wifi-radar to connect to the network (which worked), again, it might be because of my static ip
[05:22] <mwe> Shak-: well ifconfig eth1 down first maybe
[05:22] <rishi> farous, thanks man...i will see if this will make it work
[05:22] <philhinz> jrsims: I upgraded from breezy as well.
[05:23] <pepsi> hi there.. any ideas why im not about to seek to a differnet point in a FLAC audo file? i can play it through, but not skip back or go forward
[05:23] <pepsi> im using amarok
[05:23] <MrKeuner> any java programmers here using eclipse in dapper? I am having hard time to get javadoc working
[05:24] <Mattchewie> quick question for you all. Why is it that I can "sudo su -" go to root, create a directory but not put 777 permissons on it ?
[05:24] <Mattchewie> is it part of some selinux thing ?
[05:24] <Shak-> mwe: ah, that seems to work
[05:24] <J-_> just got the eterm working. Eterm, not eterm... =\
[05:24] <Shak-> mwe: hmm, that completely killed my connection
[05:24] <mwe> Shak-: well you should iwconfig essid <your ap> eth1 before dhclient eth1
[05:24] <joshuapurcell> MrKeuner:  I have eclipse working in Dapper. what is your problem?
[05:24] <Shak-> mwe: isnt dhclient just for DHCP though? im using a static ip
[05:25] <mwe> Shak-: yes.
[05:25] <philhinz> I recently updated Dapper and now my sound is broken.  It loops the first bit of any file it tries to play.  I have a VIA 8237 integrated sound.  Anybody else have this problem?
[05:25] <SurfnKid> mwe, isnt it iwconfig eth1 essid <your ap>
[05:25] <mistform> how do I find what version I'm running?
[05:25] <mwe> SurfnKid: oh yes
[05:25] <Shak-> mwe: thats why I think it just sits for ever on DHCPDISCOVER
[05:25] <SurfnKid> mistform, uname -a
[05:25] <joshuapurcell> mistform:  uname -a
[05:25] <MrKeuner> joshuapurcell/ I would like to get context help through javadoc tab next to Problems tab but it is empty
[05:25] <SurfnKid> mwe,  hehe i do it everyday it has become  this non stop thing :P
[05:25] <MrKeuner> joshuapurcell/ what should I do?
[05:25] <Shak-> SurfnKid: try wifi-radar it helped me a bit...
[05:26] <mistform> i meant version of ubuntu
[05:26] <mistform> lol
[05:26] <gekko`> J-_: do you want an terminal which is embedded in your desktop?
[05:26] <Shak-> mwe: I had to use wifi-radar to get back alive
[05:26] <jordan> Is there a way to have 2 ubuntus sharing a net connection thru usb or some way?
[05:26] <mwe> Shak-: well you should configure /etc/network/interfaces to reflect the fact that you don't want to use dhcp
[05:26] <mistform> on the same system?
[05:26] <mwe> Shak-: it's misconfigured or ifdow/up would work
[05:26] <Shak-> mwe: ah, how do I put in my static ip details there?
[05:26] <Bonez> does anyone know if there is an alternative to mythtv?
[05:27] <Bonez> does anyone know if there is an alternative way of displaying digital tv? i can't get mythtv to work
[05:27] <SurfnKid> Shak-, yeah tho it interferes a lot with /etc/network/interfaces but its nice to have a good gui :)
[05:27] <jordan> Is there a way to have 2 ubuntus sharing a net connection thru usb or some way?
[05:27] <joshuapurcell> MrKeuner:  damn I'm sorry... forgot i have RAD installed rather than eclipse. maybe it will have the same thing let me check
[05:27] <mwe> Shak-: iface eth inet static
[05:27] <Shak-> mwe: no such command iface...
[05:27] <Recks> wow this shit is wierd
[05:27] <Recks> lol
[05:27] <J-_> how do i get eterm embeded on the desktop?
[05:28] <mwe> Shak-: followed by address, network, netmask
[05:28] <_nano_> Hello, a filesystem check throws up some buffer I/O errors. Is there a way to repair my root partition? please help !! :(
[05:28] <mwe> Shak-: it's not a command
[05:28] <Shak-> oh
[05:28] <Shak-> ah I see what you mean
[05:28] <mwe> Shak-: you should type it into /etc/network/interfaces, the file
[05:28] <mof> I'm finding people on the ubuntu forum having trouble with the Australian repo from a month ago but nothing recent, what's a reasonable time frame to expect a fix, a day, week or month?
[05:28] <Shak-> mwe: should I just leave my current essid/key settings
[05:28] <jordan> hello? Is there a way to have 2 ubuntus sharing a net connection thru usb or some way?
[05:28] <jordan> Please respond
[05:28] <gekko`> J-_: start eterm like this: Eterm -x -0 --trans --scrollbar=off --buttonbar 0 --font-fx none
[05:29] <SurfnKid> mwe, you running wep?
[05:29] <mwe> Shak-: put that in the file as well
[05:29] <joshuapurcell> MrKeuner:  even if I did have what you  are looking for in rational application developer, it wouldn't really help since I wouldn't what to tell you to get it in eclipse
[05:29] <mwe> SurfnKid: wpa
[05:29] <Dawnshadow> Um... Jordan: I'm a newbie myself, but perhaps networking?
[05:29] <joshuapurcell> MrKeuner:  I've installed eclipse in the past and thought i had it installed still
[05:29] <jordan> but how would i set it up?
[05:29] <mwe> Shak-: the gnome network manager might be easier to use
[05:29] <gekko`> J-_: you can remove --trans if you dont want transparency
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > Offtopic, but out of a matter of judgement, do the projects look scarier at night, or in the day time?
[05:29] <philhinz> Bonez:  If you just want display there is tvtime
[05:29] <Shak-> so would it look like: 192.168.1.100 on one line, networkname on another and 255.255.255.0 ?
[05:29] <MrKeuner> joshuapurcell/ no problems friend. thanks anyways
[05:29] <Dawnshadow> Do you have broadband or dialup?
[05:30] <SurfnKid> mwe, ah ok setting it up in the /network/interfaces file is much better,  network manager doesnt give you an option to use key1 2 3 or 4, you set it all up on that file
[05:30] <mwe> SurfnKid: my network is working though
[05:30] <SurfnKid> mwe, oh, thought it wasnt :P
[05:30] <mwe> Shak-: /j #mwe for a minute
[05:31] <Shak-> k
[05:31] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  why don't you just use a crossover cable
[05:31] <ruxpin> what's the best place to put scripts that should run as the normal user after logging in via xdm?
[05:31] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  you could connect the two computers with a crossover cable then use something like firestarter to enable connection sharing (with something like a secondary ethernet connection or wireless)
[05:32] <joshuapurcell> ruxpin:  if you want to keep your /home partition after upgrades or re-installs then i'd put it in /home/user/bin
[05:32] <joshuapurcell> ruxpin:  where user is your username
[05:32] <_nano_> Is there a way to repair my root partition without losing it? it's showing buffer I/o errors while filesystem check
[05:32] <joshuapurcell> ruxpin:  but otherwise just put the scripts in any directory found in your $PATH
[05:33] <jordan> joshuapurcell, Whats a crossover cable?
[05:33] <joshuapurcell> ruxpin:  i always put mine in /usr/bin
[05:33] <jordan> joshuapurcell,
[05:33] <Dysk> Any of you guys know what would cause "apt-get update" to return Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) on the same file every time?
[05:33] <jordan> joshuapurcell, And how much are they :(
[05:33] <Dysk> (I can download that file fine manually)
[05:33] <philhinz> I recently updated Dapper and now my sound is broken.  It loops the first bit of any file it tries to play.  I have a VIA 8237 integrated sound.  Anybody else have this problem?
[05:34] <mistform> anyone use Kismet?
[05:34] <Awesome-o2000> philc, that usually tends to be indicative of hardware problems
[05:34] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  it's an ethernet cable with the wires on both ends matched up to allow computer-to-computer talking (rather than computer-to-switch). they cost about $10-$15 bucks at any best buy or compusa, or you can find out how to make one from a regular cable online
[05:34] <Awesome-o2000> ops
[05:34] <Awesome-o2000> philhinz, , that usually tends to be indicative of hardware problems
[05:34] <J-_> nice
[05:35] <jordan> joshuapurcell, Are they the onse that are used for The direct rougher to Pc connection?
[05:35] <philhinz> Awesome:  It works with the live CD and was working before the update so I assume it's not a hardware problem
[05:35] <lmosher> Is it possible (in gnome) to make alt+tab work for all workspaces? I.E. right now I have 1 window in each workspace and I want to alt-tab between them bu tcan't
[05:35] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[05:35] <Awesome-o2000> philhinz, thats very odd indeed
[05:35] <_nano_> !fsck
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about fsck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:36] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  once you get a crossover cable you can connect your PCs together, make sure you assign an IP address/subnet on both machines on the same network, then you should be able to talk between them
[05:36] <jordan> joshuapurcell, But would i have one? Like a Dsl connection card
[05:36] <mof> Jordan could you us a usb hub to connect each computer to the modem?
[05:37] <jordan> mof, I use a Wireless card.
[05:37] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  you probably don't have a crossover cable unless you know about it... many modems and routers made today don't require a crossover cable... they can automatically tell what you are using
[05:37] <philhinz> Stupid question.  Does changing the xorg.conf file affect sound?  I changed this on my machine before the sound died.
[05:37] <tritium> philhinz: nope
[05:37] <jordan> joshuapurcell, What does it look like?
[05:37] <jordan> joshuapurcell, I have 100's of cords...
[05:38] <jordan> joshuapurcell, And ones fron radioshack i dont know what they do..
[05:38] <philhinz> thnx
[05:38] <Mattchewie> I got so many cords, even my cords get confused as to what type of cords they are and what they are for
[05:38] <ruxpin> joshuapurcell: no, I mean scripts that are run automatically after logging in
[05:38] <DKo5> Any reason why when I try using the Ubuntu 6.06 desktop CD on my dual 2GHz G5 it just hangs after flashing a white screen? The monitor goes into power saving mode and then the fans just spin up really fast. Do I have to give it a specific boot command to boot to 64bit ppc?
[05:38] <lecaros> hi guys
[05:38] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  but computer ethernet cards can't automatically tell what you are trying to connect them to. crossover cables look exactly like regular ones, but the only difference would be the pinouts on one of the ends. there are only two ways any ethernet cable would normally be pinned out
[05:39] <DKo5> I was given the G5 and want to run Linux and was hoping I could give Ubuntu a try (Linux newbie)
[05:39] <lecaros> i can't configure mi compaq ij600 printer, y tried with lexmark z32, z11 drivers, and nothing happens :( any idea?
[05:39] <Awesome-o2000> joshuapurcell, is it just me or is this guy about to roast his NIC?
[05:39] <sysdoc> lol
[05:39] <tritium> DKo5: 6.06 doesn't support G5 very well yet.  6.10 should support it better
[05:39] <DKo5> Is that a new, unstable, release?
[05:40] <tritium> DKo5: yes, until October, at which point it'll be a stable release
[05:40] <DarkElf109> 6.10 is Edgy Eft
[05:40] <joshuapurcell> Awesome-o2000:  he can't break his nic card by using a crossover cable... as long as he doesn't make his own cable i think he's fine :D
[05:40] <jordan> joshuapurcell, I'll have to look that up
[05:40] <DarkElf109> Oh, and, hey all =)
[05:40] <tritium> DKo5: #ubuntu+1 for details
[05:40] <DKo5> thanks
[05:40] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  i think i sent a link above
[05:40] <joshuapurcell> jordan:  http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm
[05:40] <phargle> Awesome-o2000: just dont cross the beams
[05:41] <Awesome-o2000> joshuapurcell, Im about to use my psychic abilities, I forsee in the future a fried NIC....
[05:41] <Recks> Is there somewhere where I can see a list of Winamp video streams, like a list that just shows what streams there are
[05:41] <Recks> ?
[05:41] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[05:41] <lecaros> i can't configure mi compaq ij600 printer, y tried with lexmark z32, z11 drivers, and nothing happens :( any idea? please?
[05:41] <DarkElf109> lecaros: Might be of help: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[05:42] <DarkElf109> lecaros: Actually...nevermind. They don't do compaq. Sorry
[05:43] <Dysk> You all know where apt-get stores the package lists after you run "apt-get update"?
[05:43] <rddawg> has anyone gotten vmplayer to work on dapper?  I get X window error when using the file open dialog
[05:43] <joshuapurcell> rddawg:  i have vmware server working now, and i've had vmware player working in the past
[05:44] <phargle> no but vmware server works fine
[05:44] <lufis> Have you guys heard?! Linus Torvalds has breat cancer!
[05:44] <joshuapurcell> Dysk:  i think /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:44] <DarkElf109> Dysk: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:44] <phargle> where exactly are your breats?
[05:44] <rddawg> hmmm
[05:44] <lufis> phargle: My chest, baby.
[05:44] <joshuapurcell> rddawg:  what's the error
[05:44] <rddawg> vmware server isn't free though, is it?
[05:44] <rddawg> badalloc
[05:44] <joshuapurcell> rddawg:  yes it is
[05:44] <runespy> hell i was here earlier, i finished my ubuntu installation, i had the username in the installer be root... i was at the main log in screen and i tried loging in with root... and it said admin cannot log in from that screen... erm... which screen can admin log in to?? erm... from
[05:44] <phargle> ooooh
[05:45] <DarkElf109> runespy: There is no root user
[05:45] <joshuapurcell> rddawg:  http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[05:45] <joshuapurcell> rddawg:  all you do is register
[05:45] <rddawg> ah, thanks jp
[05:45] <DarkElf109> runespy: Log in as whatever user you created, then use "sudo" when you need to run commands as root
[05:45] <Dysk> Except he called his regular user root.
[05:45] <runespy> hmm... that seemed weird because it said that system administrator cannot log in from that screen
[05:45] <runespy> u positive there is no root user?
[05:45] <DarkElf109> ...can you even do that?
[05:46] <Dysk> runespy, Try hitting "ctrl-alt-F1" and logging in as root from there.
[05:46] <runespy> ok
[05:46] <Dysk> If you created a user named root, it may have done it.
[05:46] <runespy> crtrl alt f1 from the log in screen?
[05:46] <Dysk> Yes
[05:46] <Dysk> That'll give you a text-mode login
[05:46] <rc> any ubuntu dapper experts here care to help a noob restore a system by pasting a working (full) copy of /etc/sources.list to #flood, please
[05:46] <DarkElf109> rc: Use pastebin.com
[05:46] <elkbuntu> !easysource
[05:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:47] <runespy> ok dose that any chance log me into the desktop??
[05:47] <philhinz> anyone else have a VIA 8237 chispet for sound?
[05:47] <elkbuntu> rc --^
[05:47] <cowmilk> i've burned the xubuntu-main iso onto a cd and now am installling/running it on my box. I can now see the mouse and a light-blue background. but it's not going anywhere, though the mouse cursor moves when i move the mouse. what's wrong?
[05:47] <joshuapurcell> runespy:  if you still have problems after that just boot up into single user mode and it will automatically be only in root user... then you can take care of the other user problems. you log into single-user mode by selecting the other option on the grub menu
[05:47] <Dysk> runespy, No it doesn't.  You'll need to create a non-root user and then log in with that.
[05:47] <joshuapurcell> runespy:  you have to reboot, t
[05:48] <joshuapurcell> runespy:  then that will take you to the grub menu if that's what you are planning on trying
[05:48] <runespy> yes i did this loged into the shell and i did the useradd command and tried logging into the desktop and it said the user was invalid or something like that
[05:48] <rc> i could use an original untouched /etc/source.list if anyone wants to post it to #flood
[05:48] <Dysk> runespy, Did you set a password for the user?
[05:48] <shawnr_> rc, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:48] <joshuapurcell> runespy:  otherwise you can still get to a command line by using CTRL-ALT-F1 like previously said
[05:48] <runespy> yes i did... like this syntax
[05:48] <runespy> useradd johnny -p password
[05:49] <phargle> mmm johnny p's ribbs
[05:49] <runespy> huh??
[05:49] <DarkElf109> cowmilk: Try ctrl+alt+backspace. It reloads X. Might have just caught a snag somewhere
[05:50] <Dysk> runespy, try setting the password with passwd {user}
[05:50] <runespy> ok, well ill try this, i just wonder can anyone give me the correct syntax for the useradd command
[05:51] <Dysk> runespy, I think that with the -p syntax you have to use an already-hashed password.
[05:51] <cowmilk> DarkElf109: thanks. i'm doing so right now. just to let you know, this is the second time, it has happened.
[05:51] <cowmilk> in 2 attempts
[05:51] <cowmilk> now all i see is the blinking cursor in the upper left corner
[05:51] <runespy> ok, i guess ill try the passwd command
[05:51] <runespy> i guess =/
[05:51] <jn-> hey how do i add sound drivers to winecfg? i deleted one by accident
[05:52] <jn-> arts
[05:52] <jn-> and it was the best one i think
[05:52] <DarkElf109> cowmilk: Hrm. Have you tried simply restarting the system?
[05:52] <joshuapurcell> rc:  original sources.list posted on #flood
[05:52] <cowmilk> DarkElf109: how do i restart the system? hitting the restart button on my box?
[05:52] <{SK}Molex> Hi, im having issues during install
[05:53] <DarkElf109> cowmilk: Ctrl + Alt + F1, Ctrl + Alt + Del
[05:53] <cowmilk> can anyone tell me where to get the alternate .iso for xubuntu? Because the iso on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/ is corrupt (md5 hash doesn't match
[05:53] <{SK}Molex> My install stops at 61% in Kubuntu and 41% in Ubuntu
[05:54] <DarkElf109> {SK}Molex: You might want to try the alternative installer
[05:54] <{SK}Molex> and also i need to boot with ACPI=off or else it wont boot Kernel
[05:54] <cowmilk> i've tried both combinations, DarkElf109, but neither does anything.
[05:54] <tritium> cowmilk: the image on the server is correct.  Your downloaded copy is bad
[05:54] <{SK}Molex> How do u use an alt installer?
[05:54] <DarkElf109> cowmilk: Ok. That's very odd. Just hard-reboot the machine. X is acting funky
[05:54] <DarkElf109> {SK}Molex: Download and burn the alternative CD image
[05:54] <tritium> {SK}Molex: it's the old text-based install
[05:54] <{SK}Molex> kk
[05:55] <{SK}Molex> thats cool
[05:55] <{SK}Molex> ya
[05:55] <{SK}Molex> that have Gparted?
[05:55] <cowmilk> tritium: how do you know my copy is bad? i checked the iso on my harddrive before i burned it onto cd and the md5/hash numbrers match
[05:55] <digitalhav0c> how do i reconfigure xorg
[05:55] <tritium> {SK}Molex: please use periods and new sentences rather than enter key
[05:55] <cowmilk> tritium: oh, and the iso i got was the torrented version, not the simple download version
[05:55] <tritium> cowmilk: then your burn is bad
[05:56] <cowmilk> tritium: how can i confirm that it is my burn that is bad?
[05:56] <joshuapurcell> digitalhav0c:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[05:56] <tritium> cowmilk: the install CD has the option of checking your install media
[05:56] <joshuapurcell> digitalhav0c:  followed by package name
[05:56] <{SK}Molex> Sorry, its a bad habit. There YAY!
[05:56] <philhinz> Sorry for the repeat.  I am looking for advice on sound problems.  I had a working Dapper system.  Something over the last month has broken it.  It now loops sound files endlessly.  Still works  with the live CD. I have a VIA 8237 chipset.  Any ideas.
[05:56] <cowmilk> tritium: yes, it does, i'll try that again. when i did that the first time, i don't remember reading of any status report after the check was done.
[05:56] <tritium> {SK}Molex: :)
[05:57] <wisebug> "help" I can't seem to play mp3 files that are store on my NAS, I can tranfer them and play them locally but they won't play in XMMS it just display the filename
[05:57] <cowmilk> tritium: "check CD for defects" is one option on the live cd
[05:57] <tritium> cowmilk: okay.  Obviously, they don't put bad images on the server.  If your downloaded image's md5sum is good, that only leaves the burn
[05:57] <DarkElf109> wisebug: How are you mounting the NAS share?
[05:57] <digitalhav0c> joshuapurcell: what would xorg be
[05:57] <cowmilk> tritium: ok.
[05:57] <digitalhav0c> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:57] <cowmilk> i guess i have to burn again.
[05:58] <{SK}Molex> Linux people are so smart and helpful :)
[05:58] <the_hammer> what all do u need after as fresh install of ubuntu?
[05:58] <the_hammer> i did the build essenual
[05:58] <the_hammer> and tcl
[05:58] <joshuapurcell> digitalhav0c:  xserver-xorg if i'm not mistaken
[05:58] <QJ> Anyone know software to connect to TI Calculators?
[05:58] <the_hammer> anything else i need?
[05:58] <SushiK> Hi guys, my first time here in the channel
[05:58] <tritium> the_hammer: what all do you need for doing what, exactly?
[05:58] <QJ> (Specifically, TI89-Titanium)
[05:58] <DarkElf109> the_hammer: You don't need anything, technically. What do you plan to do?
[05:58] <tritium> hi, SushiK :)
[05:59] <DarkElf109> QJ: Gimme one sec, and I can tell you exactly =)
[05:59] <the_hammer> im trying to get my eggdrop working that i saved to a cd
[05:59] <tritium> QJ: tilp
[05:59] <SushiK> tritium: heyas.. i was actually pretty moved by the website. I didn't realize ubuntu was such a noble effort
[05:59] <tritium> QJ: know how I found that?  apt-cache search texas ;)
[05:59] <DarkElf109> QJ: ...yeah, that's the one =)
[05:59] <SushiK> or.. (im pretty paranoid) such a seemingly noble effort
[05:59] <QJ> 'kay
[05:59] <tritium> SushiK: :)
[05:59] <bah55555> does anyone know if it's possible to change the loading screen?
[05:59] <DarkElf109> tritium: Cheater. I actually had that installed on an old home partition of mine that I had backed up
[05:59] <{SK}Molex> (HUG tritium)
[06:00] <wisebug> DarkElf109: I just went into: Places->Network Servers->Windows Servers->"network name"->NAS->drive->folder-> *.mp3
[06:00] <DarkElf109> bah55555: It is
[06:00] <tritium> DarkElf109: heh
[06:00] <{SK}Molex> Wait, once again....does Alt install have GPartED
[06:00] <tritium> thanks, {SK}Molex :)
[06:00] <Recks> where are the programs located
[06:00] <SushiK> tritium: so umm.. in your opinion what is this ubuntu all about? its a pretty good thing to be involved in?
[06:01] <Recks> like Xine what would the directory be?
[06:01] <cowmilk> tritium: i did "check cd for defects". the results are "0 checksums failed". so what's wrong?
[06:01] <shawnr_> Recks, wine programs?
[06:01] <digitalhav0c> thanks dude
[06:01] <DarkElf109> {SK}Molex: No, it does not
[06:01] <tritium> SushiK: it sure is!
[06:01] <digitalhav0c> worked like charm
[06:02] <{SK}Molex> SushiK: Not me you asked, but Ubuntu is all about bringing Linux to the mainstream because THAT IS KEY to it gaining popularity
[06:02] <joshuapurcell> digitalhav0c:  np
[06:02] <Recks> no Xine media player, where would the directory for that or like Kaffiene be?
[06:02] <tritium> cowmilk: not sure, but you said earlier the md5sum was not correct
[06:02] <runespy> hello im back some people were helping me not to long ago, are they still here?!!!!!
[06:02] <the_hammer> well im missing somehting just dunno what
[06:02] <DarkElf109> runespy: I'm here =)
[06:02] <joshuapurcell> runespy:  what was your problem
[06:02] <tritium> the_hammer: for what?
[06:02] <shawnr_> Recks, depends. what are you trying to get to the dirs for
[06:02] <runespy> ok
[06:02] <QJ> Hmm
[06:02] <runespy> the problem is still not resolved
[06:02] <QJ> How do I figure out what kind of cable I have?
[06:03] <Recks> to set a program as the default for a link lol
[06:03] <amonkey> i can get on wifi fine, but i would like to use network-manager to change networks. it doesn't recognize my wifi card as far as i can tell, what can i do?
[06:03] <Recks> like when I launch a .pls
[06:03] <runespy> ok, i tried creating the user, i created it... the same thing happend
[06:03] <SushiK> what sortof a user is ubuntu good for?
[06:03] <tritium> amonkey: the docs for network-manager say that you have to comment out all interface definitions in /etc/network/interfaces that you want network-manager to mange
[06:03] <Dawnshadow> Will applications written for the KDE interface work in Gnome-based Ubuntu?
[06:03] <DarkElf109> runespy: Did you try a different username?
[06:03] <tritium> manage, even
[06:03] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me with fdisk? Removing a partion and make a partion? I know a little bit, but not all.
[06:03] <runespy> yea
[06:03] <MTecknology> Can anybody log into myspace?
[06:03] <DarkElf109> Dawnshadow: Only if the user has the KDE libraries installed
[06:04] <runespy> the one i made in the command line and it didnt work
[06:04] <shawnr_> Recks, right click>properties>opens with> +add
[06:04] <Zambezi> Dawnshadow, Yes, but it will install KDE packages aswell.
[06:04] <DarkElf109> MTecknology: No. People need accounts there, and not everybody has one
[06:04] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  what do you need to do
[06:04] <Recks> see but I need the directory of the file so I can add it
[06:04] <Recks> lol
[06:04] <Dawnshadow> Dark Elf: Thanks. *tries to figure out how to install KDE libraries....*
[06:04] <tritium> Recks: most are in /usr/bin
[06:04] <Zambezi> joshuapurcell, I have problems after I encrypted it.
[06:04] <Recks> kk
[06:04] <DarkElf109> Dawnshadow: apt-get install kdelibs, I think
[06:04] <shawnr_> Recks, if you installed it correctly. it will be in the programs list
[06:04] <wisebug> DarkElf109: any idea why ?
[06:04] <Zambezi> joshuapurcell, Can me take it in PM? I get so stressed in main.
[06:04] <Dawnshadow> Elf: In the Terminal? *is newbie*
[06:05] <MTecknology> DarkElf109 I'm trying to figure out why i can't log in
[06:05] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  sure
[06:05] <Recks> Thank you
[06:05] <shawnr_> recks, and it not, you don't need the directory just the command
[06:05] <runespy> anybody have any suggestions ??? is there any topics in the wiki that relate to this problem
[06:05] <shawnr_> Recks, mplayer file.pls
[06:05] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[06:05] <DarkElf109> wisebug: Hrm...not sure. Can you use any other multimedia player?
[06:05] <amonkey> tritium, thanks. is there a way i can reinstate interfaces without restarting?
[06:05] <the_hammer> lol
[06:05] <wisebug> DarkElf109: I tried right clicking on the drive and "connect to server" look like it mounted the drive I now have a link on my desktop but it still won't play the mp3s
[06:06] <DarkElf109> Dawnshadow: Yeah. Or, just use Synaptic and look for kdelibs
[06:06] <Dawnshadow> Elf: Thanks. Not working in Terminal, but I can look it up from here. ^^
[06:06] <tritium> amonkey: comment them out, then bring the interface down if it's up (sudo ifdown <ifname>), then try again
[06:06] <SushiK> Err.. does anyone know what ubotu translates to in english?
[06:06] <Phenax> There is no SSH/GCC in ubuntu live disk, correct?
[06:06] <DarkElf109> wisebug: Right. Can you play mp3's from the server in any other app?
[06:06] <runespy> well its getting night where i live so im going to just say screw it and i am uninstalling it and re installing it because i cannot get this thing to work and im about to strab a bomb to the thing... night :)
[06:06] <the_hammer> heres my problem i have a saved eggdrop fully functional on a cd...i tried it on my wifes pc but for some unknown reasons it wont work on mine
[06:07] <shawnr_> SushiK, www.google.com
[06:07] <gdb> SushiK: It doesn't translate to anything.  It's a play on the word "ubuntu".
[06:07] <williamb> how  can i install mplayer and its codecs
[06:07] <shawnr_> there you go
[06:07] <shawnr_> williamb, same as everything else
[06:07] <gdb> SushiK: It's a bot, a script that watches the channel and responds to what it sees.
[06:07] <tritium> the_hammer: eggdrop is packaged for ubuntu
[06:07] <xeem> I'm having a problem with X11 drivers on my Inspiron 2650 after I installed the nvidia drivers.  Before it would boot up fine, but now when it boots up, there are graphics but they are it seems that there are just a lot of vertical lines everywhere, rather than concrete images.   I can use tty terminals at this point.
[06:07] <williamb> like apt-get install mplayer?
[06:07] <kiran> When I try playing a .mp3 I get som weird message saying I need to get a decoder or something
[06:07] <SushiK> gdb: ahh ok thanks. yes someone recommended i ask the bot about synaptic
[06:07] <xeem> . I can fix this problem by restarting X by hitting cntrl-alt-backspace, however this stops me from using any of the tty terminals, or shutting down/rebooting the machine, as it just hangs with a black screen.  I have searched through the ubuntu forums and have removed the boot splash and changed the boot screen resolution, but this has not solved the problem.  Is there anything more I can do to get this resolved?
[06:07] <kiran> How do I make it play?
[06:07] <shawnr_> williamb, i have a great website for you that will help you out
[06:07] <shawnr_> williamb, alot.. hold on
[06:07] <williamb> lol that would be gfeat shawnr_
[06:07] <Malachi> Is there a way I can filter out a wireless connection in Ubuntu? There's a linksys that always interferes with the Linksys I use....
[06:07] <the_hammer> i tried the sudo apt-get install eggdrop and it cant find it it says
[06:08] <mof> Huzza the Australian mirror is working again
[06:08] <apeman2020> I would love to know how to start / restart apache2 in ubuntu!
[06:08] <gdb> SushiK: You can do that by sending it a PM (/msg ubotu synaptic) or by using the command !synaptic in channel.  The ! indicates to ubotu that what follows is a query or command.
[06:08] <tritium> !info eggdrop
[06:08] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (dapper), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[06:08] <the_hammer> if ya know how i can get eggdrop msg me
[06:08] <tritium> the_hammer: it's in universe repo
[06:08] <shawnr_> williamb, this is what got me up and running on my first ubuntu install its great and step by step... http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[06:08] <gdb> Ah, well !info then. :-)
[06:08] <tritium> !universe > the_hammer
[06:08] <kiran> How do I get .mp3s to play ?
[06:08] <shawnr_> !mp3
[06:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <tritium> !mp3 > kiran
[06:08] <kiran> It says I need some sort of decoder to play it
[06:09] <kiran> ah, k
[06:09] <williamb> is there a breezy badger version
[06:09] <tritium> yes, williamb (older version)
[06:09] <wisebug> DarkElf109: give me a few sec I'll try installing a few players
[06:09] <DarkElf109> wisebug: Alrighty
[06:09] <kiran> !mp3
[06:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:09] <DarkElf109> SushiK: "Ubuntu (ooh-BOON-too) is an African word that has been described as "too beautiful to translate into English". The essence of ubuntu is that "a person is a person through other people". It describes humanity as "being-with-others" and prescribes what "being-with-others" should be all about. Ubuntu emphasizes sharing, consensus, and togetherness."
[06:09] <xeem> is there no way to fix my problem?
[06:10] <Bonez> hi all, I am having strange errors when ever I run apt-get to either install, upgrade software etc. I've dumped it in the pastebin, can anyone please help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19363
[06:10] <shawnr_> williamb, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[06:10] <shawnr_> oops
[06:10] <shawnr_> williamb, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[06:10] <SushiK> darkelf: so .. would you say people who like to share and be with others might have a good time using ubuntu?
[06:10] <shawnr_> lol
[06:10] <the_hammer>  tritium how do ia ccess that?
[06:10] <shawnr_> this guy is crackn me up
[06:10] <wisebug> DarkElf109:  no luck so far using other player
[06:11] <tritium> the_hammer: I had ubotu send you the URL with details
[06:11] <tritium> !universe
[06:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:11] <DarkElf109> SushiK: First of all, calm down =) It's just an OS. Secondly, Open Source and Free Software, as a whole, play off the idea that Sharing is Caring
[06:11] <SushiK> haha
[06:11] <rc> thanks to all who suggested source-o-matic, didn't even know that existed, what a wonderfull tool
[06:11] <DarkElf109> SushiK: If you like knowing that, at any moment, you can hop in and help code an application, then Linux, almost ANY distribution, is right for you =)
[06:12] <the_hammer> when i search eggdrop pn that site nothing found
[06:12] <DarkElf109> wisebug: Hrm...so transfer works, but streaming doesn't...never seen that before.
[06:12] <the_hammer> on*
[06:12] <harry> WHEN using vmware inside linux. will windows work like usuall like just having the windows installed normally??
[06:12] <crafteh> I am setting up RSYNC to automatically transfer log files from my server, but I am having permissions problems. How should I set it up? I currently have an rsync user on the server that my backup server logs in as
[06:13] <DarkElf109> wisebug: I'm really not sure...as far as I can tell, it should work...sorry =/
[06:13] <SushiK> DarkElf: i don't quite get your calm down comment, but i'll try
[06:13] <SushiK> funny stuff tho
[06:14] <wisebug> DarkElf109:  np I'll try to play a divx that's on the drive
[06:14] <joshuapurcell> crafteh:  i'm not sure how to do it with rsync, but i know how to automatically transfer files using ssh (or scp). you could do this in a script once you share the keys between the two computers
[06:14] <Zambezi> joshuapurcell, Didn't you get the PM?
[06:14] <harry> WHEN using vmware inside linux. will windows work like usuall like just having the windows installed normally??
[06:14] <DarkElf109> SushiK: My point is, even though Ubuntu is built around that philosophy, the vast majority of users are just that: users. A very small minority actually develops and contributes, but anyone can do it at any time =)
[06:15] <phargle> harry: yea
[06:15] <DarkElf109> harry: It'll be like running Windows in a window...but slower
[06:15] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  nope... i sent you some messages in the private window though... did you get them?
[06:15] <crafteh> joshuapurcell, should I change the permissions of the log files? or should I rsync by sshing as root?
[06:15] <SushiK> darkelf: ahh.. so not everyone really cares, as it were, what ubuntu is all about
[06:15] <bioticpro> I have yet to find the great program "doasroot" in the repositories, is it named something else, or is there a similar app? (it allows you to right click in filemanger and do actions as su by entering pass)
[06:15] <mistform> I care about Ubuntu
[06:15] <DarkElf109> SushiK: Exactly
[06:15] <gdb> SushiK: I think what he means is keep in mind that while the term 'ubuntu' encompases the overall goal of the project, it's by no means a religious movement or indeed anything beyond a name that seeks to express that overall goal.  I think you'll find, however, that folks in the Ubuntu community are, by and large, friendlier and more helpful than those you'll find in the communities surrounding other distributions.
[06:16] <harry> DarkElfl09: i'm fine with it. i just want to use Macromedia Flash MX 2004?? coz i cant install it with wine.
[06:16] <joshuapurcell> crafteh:  i would forget rsync and just use ssh. it won't matter what permissions are on the log files as long as you can access them as the user you are running the backup/transfer script as
[06:16] <DarkElf109> harry: Oh, yeah, should work fine
[06:16] <phargle> you mean this isn't a religous movement?
[06:16] <crafteh> joshuapurcell, well its the same with rsync
[06:16] <harry> DarkElfl09: But i still have to install the drivers for windows like usuall right??
[06:16] <crafteh> i'm just trying to think what the best permission scheme is
[06:16] <DarkElf109> phargle: Of course it is! You can keep paying tithe to me =)
[06:16] <bioticpro> Maybe a do-as-sudo plugin...?
[06:16] <shawnr_> harry, check out http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,69849,00.html
[06:16] <gdb> phargle: The term 'ubuntu' does have religious connotations in southern Africa, yes.
[06:16] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  you still checking the other private channel?
[06:16] <phargle> whew
[06:16] <mistform> what was the Yahoo client for Linux?
[06:16] <SushiK> gdb: i appreciate that comment, thanks
[06:17] <Zambezi> joshuapurcell, Which is that?
[06:17] <Madpilot> mistform, Gaim can do YM
[06:17] <gdb> SushiK: My attraction to Ubuntu mirrors yours, however.  I have a great appreciation for the philosophy of ubuntu.
[06:17] <DarkElf109> mistform: Yahoo client? It's called 'Firefox'
[06:17] <billy> msg nickserv identify bigbill52a keepout
[06:17] <joshuapurcell> crafteh:  true it is... can you rsh into that remote computer? i'm not familiar with rsync, but i imagine that if you can rsh into the remote computer you can rsync. once that is verified then you can try sending files. i'd be able to help more though if ssh were being used... it's what i'm familiar with
[06:17] <SushiK> gdb: I'm curious, does ubuntu have any physical connection to africa? Did it originate in an african country?
[06:17] <DarkElf109> billy: Might wanna change that password now =)
[06:17] <gdb> SushiK: Note that I use 'Ubuntu' when referring to the software, and 'ubuntu' when referring to the concept or philosphy.
[06:18] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  i created a private channell and I have been sedning you messages there
[06:18] <Madpilot> SushiK, Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa
[06:18] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  use d to delete the one you want to get rid of, n to create a new one (most likely filesystem code will be 83), then w to save once you say how big you want the partition to be
[06:18] <bayziders> ok i have windows installed but im on a ubuntu live cd
[06:18] <crafteh> joshuapurcell, i guess i am just wondering if i should log in as root so i have access to the files, or if I should change the permissions of the log files?
[06:18] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  then you will have a new partition. you will then need to format the partition with a filesystem... and usually that is done with something like /sbin/mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdbX
[06:18] <harry> shawnr_: whats with the link?? are you  suggesting something better???
[06:18] <DarkElf109> crafteh: You can use the rsync option '-e ssh' to run the rsync over ssh
[06:18] <shawnr_> mistform, just yearch yahoo in synaptic
[06:18] <bayziders> is there any way i can download some thing here but move it to windows
[06:18] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:  this is a good link to read: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Add_a_new_hard_drive
[06:19] <mistform> alright, ty shawnr
[06:19] <joshuapurcell> Zambezi:   you create a partition with fdisk, then you format the space in that partition into a filesystem (usually ext3, but it can be reiserfs, xfs, jfs, etc.)
[06:19] <shawnr_> harry, just thought it would be an interesting read for someone needing good emulation under linus
[06:19] <DarkElf109> bayziders: Maybe. Do you have any FAT32 partitions?
[06:19] <philhinz> rsync uses ssh if you just append "-e ssh"
[06:19] <harry> shawnr_: ok thanks
[06:19] <joshuapurcell> crafteh:  ahh i see. i would keep the permissions on the files as they are and either run the script as root or login as root
[06:19] <gdb> SushiK: The word has roots in the Xhosa and Zula languages, yes.  This resource may be useful to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.html#about-ubuntu-name
[06:19] <the_hammer> ok it says i dont have tcl installed but im pretty sure i installed it
[06:19] <crafteh> joshuapurcell, hm... ok
[06:19] <crafteh> is that dangerous?
[06:20] <bayziders> darkelf can we talk on pm this is to confusing
[06:20] <crafteh> i'm using pub/private key authentication
[06:20] <the_hammer> how would i locate tcl
[06:20] <harry> WHO KNOWS how to install VMWARE in UBUNTU 6.06
[06:20] <crimsun> the_hammer: tcl8.4 is installed by default.
[06:20] <DarkElf109> harry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VmWare
[06:20] <crimsun> the_hammer: are you compiling something that needs tcl?
[06:20] <Zambezi> joshuapurcell, Can you please join #justtemporarywithz ?
[06:21] <joshuapurcell> crafteh:  to run the script as root that copies your logs to a remote computer? it isn't dangerous since it doesn't leave your computer open to attack once the script is complete, but rsync in itself (without the ssh option) is ensecure
[06:21] <Dawnshadow> Elf: I think I have it. Thanks again. (It took me a while to find Synaptic, but once I did it was easy....)
[06:21] <gdb> SushiK: If you boot off the live CD, there will be a folder on the desktop called Examples.  There is a video in there called 'Experience ubuntu.ogg' (this folder is also created in the home directory of each user account on an installed system).  The video is an excerpt of an interview with Nelson Mandela, conducted by Tim Modise, in which Mandela defines, in his words, what the concept of ubuntu means.
[06:21] <DarkElf109> Dawnshadow: Awesome, glad to be of assistance =)
[06:21] <Shaezsche> is it possible to burn the latest updates for ubuntu onto a disc, so that i can bring the disc to another computer that doesnt have a connection to the internet and update it?
[06:22] <crafteh> joshuapurcell, thanks
[06:22] <SushiK> gdb: dang.. sounds pretty heavy
[06:22] <SushiK> I'll be sure to check it out
[06:22] <joshuapurcell> crafteh:  np
[06:22] <DarkElf109> Shaezsche: Copy /var/cache/apt to the disk, and move it to the same spot on the other comp
[06:22] <gdb> SushiK: This is also a good resource for more information on the concept of ubuntu -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28ideology%29
[06:22] <crimsun> Shaezsche: we'll be rolling updated discs soon.
[06:22] <bayziders> darkelf are you geting my ims
[06:22] <the_hammer> !pastebit
[06:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:22] <DarkElf109> bayziders: Nope. Not a single one
[06:22] <Shaezsche> darkelft, but what if it doesnt have the same packages
[06:22] <cowmilk> tritium: you know what though? the alternate isos for the Alternate  on the http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/  are bad. you shoudl try it out yourself.
[06:22] <bayziders> weird
[06:22] <bayziders> ok
[06:23] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:23] <bayziders> ok i instaleed windows and i dont have internet on it so i need my live cd to download something but i need to get it to windows
[06:23] <sam__> hello
[06:23] <harry> DarkElf109: whats the problem of my computer when i got this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[06:23] <harry> Aborted
[06:23] <Shaezsche> do you think ubuntu will ever play mp3's right out of a fresh install? or will i always need to download rogue codecs?
[06:23] <DarkElf109> Shaezsche: Actually...ignore what I just said. That was wrong. That's just for the sources themselves...not sure about copying the actual debs...
[06:23] <sam__> Ubuntu is the shit!
[06:23] <Madpilot> bayziders, you need to register with Freenode to PM people
[06:23] <linlin> is there any way i can "sieze" control of a terminal (if i am root of course) of a remotely logged on ssh user?
[06:24] <gdb> SushiK: Here is another reference -> http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/7-22-2006-103206.asp
[06:24] <the_hammer> ok heres why i said the tcl thing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19364
[06:24] <bayziders> so how do i do that
[06:24] <Madpilot> Shaezsche, that'll depend on what happens with the mp3 patents, I guess
[06:24] <DarkElf109> harry: No clue, sorry.
[06:24] <joshuapurcell> linlin:  that would be cool... but not that I know of
[06:24] <shawnr_> Shaezsche, i actually prefer ogg, but who am i
[06:24] <bayziders> download something on a live cd and accses it on windows
[06:24] <SushiK> gdb: dang i'll be reading about ubuntu all night! ;) thx
[06:24] <Madpilot> !register
[06:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:24] <Madpilot> bayziders, ^^^ see the URL ubotu just gave
[06:24] <gdb> SushiK: Sure thing!
[06:24] <D-menT> hi
[06:25] <linlin> :-/
[06:25] <DarkElf109> bayziders: If you have a FAT32 partition, copy it to that. If you don't, install the ext2/3 drivers for windows. If you need to copy it without rebooting, try installing ntfs-3g
[06:25] <Shaezsche> shawnr how long would it take to convert 80gigs of mp3 to ogg? and what linux prog would you recommend for that?
[06:25] <Bonez> hi all, I am having strange errors when ever I run apt-get to either install, upgrade software etc. I've dumped it in the pastebin, can anyone please help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19363
[06:25] <the_hammer> can someone check out my !pastebin and tell me what to do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19364
[06:25] <shawnr_> Shaezsche, why don't you want to install the codecs to play mp3s
[06:25] <bayziders> ok this would be easyer
[06:25] <wisebug> anyone had problem "streaming" media from a nas to xmms?
[06:25] <Shaezsche> shawnr, i do. but i just dont like doing that
[06:25] <bayziders> i have a cd withc i burner something to can i burn more stuffto it
[06:26] <sam__> die windows
[06:26] <Madpilot> Shaezsche, given that both mp3 & ogg are lossy, converting from one to another will lower the quality of the music files...
[06:26] <Shaezsche> yea i spose
[06:26] <shawnr_> true
[06:26] <SushiK> be back in a few, i'm gunna turn off IRC while i burn this disk
[06:26] <sam__> Does Mark Shuttleworth chat in here?
[06:26] <sam__> I want to ask him something
[06:26] <Madpilot> sam__, not usually.
[06:27] <D-menT> a question, i have installed ubuntu server edition, and i try to install xfce4, but dont star the X v_v, some suggestion
[06:27] <DarkElf109> sam__: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/contact-details/
[06:27] <Bonez> hi all, I am having strange errors when ever I run apt-get to either install, upgrade software etc. I've dumped it in the pastebin, can anyone please help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19363
[06:27] <Bonez> can someone please help with my apt-get problem?
[06:27] <DarkElf109> D-menT: Install xubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <Half-Left> Hello!
[06:27] <Bonez> hello Half-Left
[06:27] <nrdb> benplaut: you there?
[06:27] <DarkElf109> Bonez: I'd love to, but I've never seen anything like that. Try running from a TTY, maybe?
[06:28] <sam__> I want to ask him if he eat's green bananas and pink ice cream does wobbly jelly make him scream
[06:28] <Bonez> DarkElf109: it still does it :(
[06:28] <Half-Left> Whats the situation of gnome-2.16 and dapper?
[06:28] <Bonez> !info gnome
[06:28] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[06:28] <DarkElf109> sam__: Please don't pester him with inanities like that...
[06:28] <D-menT> thxs DarkElf109
[06:29] <DarkElf109> Bonez: It looks like either GTK or QT is going crazy because of apt-get...which doesn't make sense
[06:29] <D-menT> i will try now
[06:29] <D-menT> byes
[06:29] <sam__> When you install ubuntu, then sudo apt-get kubuntu how to you revert the startup screen back to ubuntu not the kubuntu blue?
[06:29] <Half-Left> Bonez, will it be availible in Dapper at any time?
[06:30] <Bonez> DarkElf109: yeah that's what I thought. I tried removing QT and re-installing it, but no luck. I'll try GTK :)
[06:30] <DarkElf109> Bonez: Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for any sort of device that doesn't exist externally, and, after BACKING THE FILE UP, remove it
[06:30] <Bonez> Half-Left: not sure sorry
[06:30] <DarkElf109> Nah, seems like a QT thing now that I looked back
[06:30] <Bonez> DarkElf109: oki'll try that now
[06:30] <Half-Left> ok
[06:30] <Dawnshadow> What, percisely, does Add/Remove mean by 'unsupported'?
[06:30] <the_hammer> can someone pls look at my pastebin and help me...everyone says i have tcl installed and i swear i installed it with a sudo command also but yet i get this error here in my bin ive pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19364
[06:30] <DarkElf109> Bonez: You also might want to simply /etc/init.d/gdm stop; apt-get upgrade
[06:31] <sam__> Can anyone help please?
[06:31] <shawnr_> sam__, you mean the login screen?
[06:32] <sam__> the bootupscreen
[06:32] <Dawnshadow> Ah, pop-up help. Nevermind.
[06:32] <sam__> when it loads at the start
[06:32] <sam__> it has a list of services etc and a ubuntu logo
[06:32] <sam__> brown txt
[06:32] <the_hammer> anyone checked my pastebin?
[06:33] <D-menT> hi
[06:33] <sam__> Sup D-ment
[06:33] <Half-Left> the_hammer, tcl-devel package
[06:33] <DarkElf109> sam__: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/20/restoring-the-ubuntu-usplash-after-a-kubuntu-install/
[06:33] <sam__> sudo apt-get install DemenT cold beer
[06:33] <sam__> thanks
[06:33] <D-menT> DarkElf109 , exist another way to install xfce4???
[06:34] <sam__> your the bomb
[06:34] <the_hammer> half left was that
[06:34] <the_hammer> whats that*
[06:34] <rellim> why would my kernel hang when trying to mount the root file system ... just says "Waiting on root filesystem" and hangs ... any ideas?
[06:34] <mikul> whats the name of win32codecs in apt-get? what is the name of the package?
[06:34] <dibblego> is there a way to find out what values are acceptable to the currently installed mount -t ?
[06:34] <Half-Left> the_hammer, tcl-dev
[06:34] <the_hammer> ok
[06:35] <DarkElf109> rellim: Off the top of my head, dieing drive or the kernel not having the partition's filesystem type compiled in...
[06:35] <kana> sam__: did you solve your prob
[06:35] <Spasticteapot>  /join #mepis
[06:35] <D-menT> v_v
[06:35] <Half-Left> thats what you need, make sure it's the matching version
[06:35] <sam__> yes thanks
[06:35] <DarkElf109> mikul: win32codecs
[06:35] <kana> :)
[06:35] <sam__> You all are the bestest ubuntuest's ;0
[06:35] <rellim> DarkElf109: its at work ... just an ata100 drive, i replaced it 5 times through out the day and the filesystem is just ext3
[06:35] <mikul> DarkElf109, i cant find it
[06:36] <DarkElf109> mikul: Err, sorry win32-codecs
[06:36] <D-menT> i need help with xfce4 and ubuntu dapper server edition v_v
[06:36] <sam__> I like ubuntu because it allows me to hack Windows user's and steal their luna interfaces.
[06:36] <mikul> DarkElf109, thx, will try
[06:36] <DarkElf109> mikul: Do you have all the repositories in your sources.list?
[06:36] <Half-Left> Is it true that Ubuntu regards reiserfs as experiemental?
[06:37] <rellim> Half-Left: to my knowledge, yes
[06:37] <Half-Left> rellim, why?
[06:37] <DarkElf109> rellim: That's odd. Did you update the kernel recently?
[06:37] <rellim> Half-Left: not sure...
[06:37] <Half-Left> ext3 is much slower
[06:37] <mikul> DarkElf109, dont really know....dont think so, i think it is a hell of a problem to make any sens of all the sources.....
[06:37] <Half-Left> thats real strange
[06:37] <sam__> I did a giant pooh before....it had various nuts in it possible a little corn.
[06:37] <rellim> DarkElf109: nope, it was a fresh install off a correctly mateched md5 image of dapper ... i thought it was very strange
[06:37] <tritium> Half-Left: reiserfs has been known to corrupt horribly
[06:37] <DarkElf109> Half-Left: Just a guess, but the whole Reiser4 thing going on, in which Mr. Reiser himself is complaining that it's notin the kernel yet
[06:38] <rellim> Half-Left: but is it proven stable
[06:38] <mikul> dont really know witch ones to put in my source.list
[06:38] <Half-Left> reiser is stable as well, it's not marked experiemental in the kernel
[06:38] <DarkElf109> rellim: You might want to check the grub options and make sure it's pointing to the right partition for root
[06:38] <rellim> DarkElf109: can i access that from a live cd?
[06:38] <DarkElf109> !source-o-matic
[06:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:38] <the_hamme1>  tcl-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:39] <tritium> Half-Left: its stability is a matter of opinion
[06:39] <mikul> thx, ;)
[06:39] <Half-Left> DarkElf109, reiser4 is different, nothing to do with reiser3
[06:39] <DarkElf109> rellim: Well, what you'll want to do is boot to the livecd, find out which partition your root resides on, make sure you can read files on it, and then make sure that /boot/grub/menu.list points to it with the root option
[06:40] <DarkElf109> Half-Left: True, but I could understand people getting a bit wound up over his recent actions. Like I said, just a guess =)
[06:40] <Half-Left> tritium, If it was as bad as people claim then it wouldn't be in the kernel for sure, would be marked experimental
[06:40] <the_hamme1> can anyone tell me why when im user and try sudo command it wont accept my pw and sometimes just goes to a prompt after i type in pw with no errors or anything?
[06:40] <mistform> I can't connect to the internet now
[06:40] <the_hamme1> i was user then but am root now
[06:40] <DarkElf109> the_hamme1: It's 'sudo <command>'
[06:40] <cabuloso> i installed mplayer on dapper, now how do i make it the default app to open when i double click a video file ?
[06:41] <the_hamme1> sudo only seems to work as root
[06:41] <rellim> DarkElf109: i only have 2 partitions on that box, root and swap, i assumed grub wouldn't have a problem with that... i just use it for coding at work and i backup the code to a svn on the fly so reformatting doesn't bother me
[06:41] <Half-Left> the_hamme1, tcl-8.4-dev
[06:41] <DarkElf109> the_hamme1: Make sure your user is in /etc/sudoers
[06:41] <tritium> Half-Left: I've had my share of problems with it.  Nearly lost my dissertation on a reiser3 partition, and months of work.
[06:41] <rellim> DarkElf109: err the installer configuring grub to that *
[06:42] <DarkElf109> rellim: Even so, it wouldn't hurt to check. It seems like grub might just be looking in the wrong place
[06:42] <Half-Left> tritium, : /
[06:42] <the_hamme1> Couldn't find package tcl-8.4-dev
[06:42] <DarkElf109> rellim: You could just edit grub's options on the fly, during startup
[06:42] <rellim> DarkElf109: ok, i will definitely take a look into that tomorrow first thing in the morning
[06:42] <rellim> DarkElf109: how so?
[06:43] <mistform> can you guys help me, I can't connect to the internet after trying to make my Wireless work
[06:43] <Half-Left> the_hamme1, hmm, well tcl8.4-dev
[06:43] <Bonez> DarkElf109: thanks for your help. I found the problem to be in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat - the default frontend was set to KDE from when I installed KDE a while back (then removed it again shortly after!)
[06:43] <tritium> the_hamme1: what are you building this time?
[06:43] <DarkElf109> rellim: At the menu, hit 'e' over the boot option, and it'll show the individual grub commands to boot that option. Then hit 'e' again on the line containing the 'root=(hdx,x)" option, edit it, hit enter to temporarily save it, and 'b' to boot
[06:44] <DarkElf109> Bonez: Hrm. Never seen that before...might wanna put that in the forums or something for other people to find =)
[06:44] <rellim> DarkElf109: ok, thanks
[06:44] <Bonez> DarkElf109: yeah I will do that now. Cheers
[06:44] <DarkElf109> Bonez: =)
[06:44] <Geoffrey2> I've tried two different video players, totem-xine and mplayer, and I can't get either one to work....when playing back files such as .mov or .wmv, the display is extremely overexposed...at times the video displayed is completely white...when playing the same video Windows Media Player or Quicktime under Windows, it looks fine, so it's not the file being played that's a problem...as far as I can tell
[06:45] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Will my computer remain online if I "hibernate it"
[06:45] <DarkElf109> jrattner1: No
[06:45] <jrattner1> so whats the diffrence between hibernating and shutting down
[06:45] <the_hamme1> DarkElf109 i checked that location and that folder isnt there
[06:45] <tritium> jrattner1: state is saved to swap partition, so when you resume, state is restored
[06:46] <DarkElf109> jrattner1: When you hibernate, the contents of RAM are stored to disk
[06:46] <Half-Left> DarkElf109, I didnot see a option to use ext3, since my partitions are both reiserfs
[06:46] <Mystilleef> Hello, what do I need to install to compile software on Ubuntu?
[06:46] <jrattner1> Well how do i enable "Suspend" so i can use it in linux
[06:46] <tritium> jrattner1: edit /etc/default/acpi-support, and uncomment line 2.  Then, reboot.  You may have to further tweak that file to get it working properly.
[06:47] <DarkElf109> the_hamme1: Then you have bigger problems
[06:47] <jrattner1> tritium, thank you
[06:47] <cabuloso> i installed mplayer on dapper, now how do i make it the default app to open when i double click a video file ?
[06:47] <tritium> jrattner1: sure
[06:47] <the_hamme1> how do i fix that
[06:47] <DarkElf109> Half-Left: Hrm? Where?
[06:48] <amonkey> how does one work compizthemer? i can import into it but they don't seem to take effect...
[06:48] <tritium> the_hamme1: what are you building this time?
[06:48] <Half-Left> DarkElf109, udring the install setup off the live cd
[06:48] <the_hamme1> well im missing a folder
[06:48] <Half-Left> during*
[06:48] <tritium> the_hamme1: which?
[06:48] <the_hamme1> dark says need a folder in etc/subuers
[06:48] <the_hamme1> subusers*
[06:48] <DarkElf109> the_hamme1: /etc/sudoers
[06:48] <jrattner1> tritium, the ACPI+HIBERNATE=true line is not commented out
[06:49] <Half-Left> amonkey, you need to have cgwd running
[06:49] <tritium> the_hamme1: don't touch that file.
[06:49] <jrattner1> tritium, never mind the ACPI_SLEEP one is though
[06:49] <the_hamme1> its not there
[06:49] <tritium> the_hamme1: if you want sudo priveleges for users, add them to the admin group
[06:49] <DarkElf109> Half-Left: Meh. I like Reiser better, honestly, but I use ext3 on my laptop and server, if only for the journaling
[06:49] <tritium> jrattner1: yeah, line 2
[06:49] <Half-Left> amonkey, just run cgwd --replace
[06:50] <the_hamme1> ok ill add/remove readd user mabe i didnt do it right
[06:50] <Half-Left> DarkElf109, same here, it's quiet alot faster
[06:50] <crackintosh> is anyone running ubuntu on a late generation powerbook?
[06:51] <bl3ssing> I want to install my firefox 2.5 (not firefox 1.0.8 which's located in Adept Repository) into my computer from the konsole. How can I do it?
[06:51] <DarkElf109> Half-Left: Well, there are some options for ext3 to speed it up, like data=writ
[06:51] <DarkElf109> eback
[06:51] <mikul> DarkElf109, so witch ones do i need?
[06:51] <mikul> all of them?
[06:51] <mistform> anyone know how to get my internet back?
[06:51] <jboyens> Hey, I'm having serious problems connection to MS Exchange with the version of Evolution in Dapper. I'm doing it fine on Gentoo and SuSE, but not on Ubuntu. Am I missing something?
[06:51] <QJ> When I try to connect with SilverLink in tilp I get this error:
[06:51] <DarkElf109> bl3ssing: Download the tar/zip/whatever, extract it somewhere, and run it
[06:51] <QJ> Msg: Error occurred while initializing the libusb.
[06:51] <QJ> Cause: Check that your cable is connected or not stalled. Check your libusb and usbfs, too.
[06:51] <QJ> System: Device or resource busy (errno = 16)
[06:51] <tritium> jboyens: works fine here
[06:52] <cyphase> can we get a clipboard manager like glipper into edgy? http://glipper.sourceforge.net/
[06:52] <jboyens> tritium: I get the lovely "No such file or directory error"
[06:52] <Half-Left> DarkElf109, Only down site I see to reiserfs is it takes a long time to mount
[06:52] <tritium> jboyens: did it authenticate properly when you setup the account?
[06:52] <Half-Left> side*
[06:52] <jboyens> tritium: I'm at a total loss. It cannot, no matter how hard I try, authenticate with the server.
[06:53] <omi> why is netpbm not available for amd64?
[06:53] <DarkElf109> mikul: Shouldn't need more than universe, multiverse, and restricted
[06:53] <omi> along with many other apps
[06:53] <the_hamme1> DarkElf109 i see what your talking about kinda (not touching just looking) but the folder u mentioned looks like a txt file of some sort with a green foot on it
[06:53] <amonkey> my min/max/close buttons moved to the left of the tittle bar, how can i move them back
[06:53] <tritium> jboyens: :(
[06:53] <DarkElf109> It *is* a text file...I never once said it was a directory
[06:54] <the_hamme1> oh ok i misunderstood
[06:54] <the_hamme1> i thought it was a folder
[06:54] <mikul> DarkElf109, ok
[06:54] <DarkElf109> mikul: AKA: Just the stuff from the top =)
[06:54] <mikul> ok, thx ;)
[06:54] <tritium> DarkElf109: what are you having him do?
[06:55] <DarkElf109> cyphase: This really isn't the place to ask...might wanna try one of the mailing lists or forums
[06:55] <the_hamme1> and i put a checks on everything under user privs
[06:55] <DarkElf109> tritium: Just adding universe and multiverse to his repositories
[06:55] <the_hamme1> so i should be good to go now eh
[06:55] <omi> Does anyone know why netpbm is not available in dapper 64bit? multiverse and restricted are enabled
[06:55] <jboyens> tritium: Even if I start evolution-exchange-storage by hand I get: "Could not connect to Evolution Exchange backend process: No such file or directory"
[06:56] <jboyens> tritium: I have a distinct feeling Dapper's Evolution is just broken for my Exchange server
[06:56] <jboyens> tritium: I'm debating on whether or not to attempt to track Edgy to see if that'll help
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> bl3ssing, just to let you know, the current version of Firefox in the Adept Repository is 1.5.0.5
[06:57] <tritium> jboyens: I think it's something in your setup.  It works very well.
[06:57] <bl3ssing> DarkElf109, simple saying. No exe file ... how can I run  since I already have the tar file untared...
[06:57] <bl3ssing> I have kubuntu 5.10
[06:57] <jboyens> tritium: I copied both the .evolution and the .gconf/apps/evolution dirs from a known working Evolution install on a Gentoo machine and they don't work either. So I can't see how it could be in my client setup
[06:57] <bl3ssing> Geoffrey2, I have kubuntu 5.10
[06:58] <DarkElf109> bl3ssing: Oh, sorry. No EXE's in Linux =) just run /path/to/extracted/archive/firefox
[06:58] <bl3ssing> DarkElf109, how can I do it?
[06:58] <crackintosh> does anyone know what program I should burn the ppc ubuntu iso with on OSX?
[06:58] <DarkElf109> bl3ssing: Well, from a terminal, or from a launcher
[06:58] <tritium> jboyens: that may be the problem.
[06:58] <tritium> jboyens: try configuring it from scratch
[06:59] <jboyens> tritium: I've started clean with a totally different user account too
[06:59] <bl3ssing> what will be the command for?
[06:59] <bl3ssing> DarkElf109,
[06:59] <QJ> Hmm
[06:59] <DarkElf109> bl3ssing: /path/to/directory/firefox
[06:59] <tritium> jboyens: don't copy the config files, and start afresh, I'd suggest
[06:59] <QJ> So it apears tilp just won't work do to a bug.
[06:59] <QJ> -/
[06:59] <QJ> Any other TI software out there?
[07:00] <Geoffrey2> bl3ssing, ah....
[07:00] <tritium> QJ: apt-cache search texas
[07:00] <Geoffrey2> bl3ssing, just to be sure, you did download the Linux version and not the Windows version, correct?
[07:01] <rabeldable> what do I do about this:  ubuntu can't locate Debconf/Db.pm
[07:01] <tritium> bl3ssing: you're not using the ubuntu package?
[07:01] <QJ> tritium: Nothing then...
[07:01] <QJ> -/
[07:01] <bl3ssing> sure Geoffrey2 .
[07:01] <bl3ssing> tritium, can you be more specified? please? thank you.
[07:01] <DarkElf109> tritium: He wants to install the alpha version
[07:02] <tritium> QJ: you must not have universe & multiverse enabled
[07:02] <rabeldable> anyone ?
[07:03] <tritium> DarkElf109: ok
[07:03] <tritium> rabeldable: how the heck did you get your system into that mess?
[07:03] <rabeldable> lots of hard work and persistence
[07:03] <DarkElf109> apt-get remove apt =P
[07:04] <rabeldable> DarkElf109:     seriously ?
[07:04] <DarkElf109> rabeldable: Oh, god no, don't do it. I was making a joke!
[07:04] <jboyens> tritium: Just created a brand new user on the system, ran through evolution setup, watch the connection with E2K_DEBUG=4, saw it authenticate and I still get the EXACT same error as before.
[07:04] <tritium> rabeldable: seriously, what caused that?
[07:04] <rabeldable> i just ran it
[07:04] <rabeldable> j/k
[07:04] <rabeldable> i'm not sure what program caused it
[07:04] <tritium> jboyens: bizarre.
[07:05] <crackintosh> so there are no ppc users in here?
[07:05] <rabeldable> I think it may have been when I installed a few things
[07:05] <DarkElf109> tritium: Think installing the deb for debconf through dpkg would fix it?
[07:05] <carthik> how I execute the same command on all files found using find? the command in question has arguments of it's own
[07:05] <rabeldable> one of the post-install scripts messed something up
[07:05] <tritium> rabeldable: on dapper?
[07:05] <rabeldable> i think it was mysql but I can't remember
[07:05] <tritium> DarkElf109: I'm not sure...
[07:05] <rabeldable> breezy
[07:05] <DarkElf109> carthik: -exec <command> {} \;
[07:05] <the_hammer> ok im almost out of the woods
[07:06] <rabeldable> i wish i could install dapper but it doesn't recognize my hard drive and x windows doesn't probe my screen resolution properly
[07:06] <rabeldable> so i'm stuck with fixing my breezy install
[07:06] <tritium> the_hammer: please tell me why you're messing with /etc/sudoers
[07:06] <the_hammer> i tried .configure and that worked and then tried make and make install to get this make: *** [install-start]  Segmentation fault
[07:06] <carthik> DarkElf109, but the problem is that the arguments of the command dont apply - mp3gain -rc {} \; says file "rc" not found or something
[07:06] <rabeldable> I was waiting to install dapper to fix those problems
[07:06] <tritium> rabeldable: that's unusual for breezy to work and dapper not to
[07:07] <rabeldable> is there anything in the forum
[07:07] <the_hammer> anyone?
[07:07] <Geoffrey2> bl3ssing, just to doublecheck, you're trying to install Firefox 2.0b1, correct?
[07:07] <rabeldable> tritium: not really, I'm noticing many posts in the forum about how dapper installer is broke
[07:07] <ruxpin> where can I set the kde preferences, so that the utf-8 locale displays correctly?
[07:07] <the_hammer> story of my life so close yet so far away :(
[07:07] <carthik> the_hammer, with the details you provide helping is close to impossible. write more and try to make it more informative.
[07:07] <tritium> rabeldable: try the alternate install image
[07:08] <bayziders> ok im on a live cd and i need to mount my windows partion so i can move something i downloaded on here to there how do i do that
[07:08] <the_hammer> trying to install my eggdrop
[07:08] <bruenig> the_hammer, what is the package
[07:08] <tritium> the_hammer: why not install the ubuntu package?
[07:08] <bruenig> !info eggdrop
[07:08] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (dapper), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[07:08] <Zambezi> Anyone with LUKS experience?
[07:08] <rabeldable> i
[07:08] <bayziders> any one
[07:08] <tritium> I already showed you this, the_hammer ^^
[07:08] <rabeldable> i'm not installing dapper
[07:09] <rabeldable> i'm trying to fix breezy
[07:09] <the_hammer> i tried that and wont let me and aside from that i have a bot fully 100 % configured backed up on cd trying to get it going and nothing i do is working
[07:09] <tritium> rabeldable: I'm just saying, the alternate install image for dapper has fewer problems
[07:09] <DarkElf109> carthik: Did you try using quotes? -exec "mp3gain -rc {} \;" Not sure if that works, though
[07:09] <bruenig> you tried what? 'sudo apt-get install eggdrop'
[07:09] <tritium> the_hammer: it will let you, if you do it properly
[07:09] <DarkElf109> Zambezi: I've got a little tiny bit...maybe I can help. Whatchya need?
[07:09] <the_hammer> says not found
[07:09] <carthik> DarkElf109, doth not :(
[07:09] <bruenig> the-hammer, you need to enable the extra repositories
[07:09] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install eggdrop not found
[07:10] <tritium> the_hammer: I told you you needed to enable the universe repo
[07:10] <the_hammer> ok how
[07:10] <bruenig> !repositories
[07:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:10] <derrickh> does anyone know how to change the default OS the booter loads?
[07:10] <tritium> the_hammer: you don't listen very well, or answer questions very well.  It's difficult helping you....
[07:10] <Zambezi> DarkElf109, I messed up a partion after I reencrypt it. And now I can't mount it or encrypt it.
[07:10] <rabeldable> tritium: ok thanks, I'll try that in the next couple of days
[07:10] <Snake> derrickh: booter?
[07:10] <carthik> derrickh, search for menu.lst default operating system on google
[07:10] <Snake> Ah
[07:10] <DarkElf109> carthik: You could pipe the output of find to xargs and use that to put the filenames at the end of mp3gain =)
[07:10] <derrickh> thanks carthik
[07:10] <bayziders> how do i log in as root on a live cd
[07:11] <bruenig> derrickh, you should be able to go into the menu.list and comment out other OSes or move OSes up and down the list if you want it just to boot the top one on timeout
[07:11] <carthik> DarkElf109, sounds like fun :) thanks
[07:11] <bayziders> any one
[07:11] <DarkElf109> carthik: Sure, fun, if you like Perl one-liners =P
[07:11] <Zambezi> bayziders, Use sudo instead. Root is not good and it's inativated from the beginning.
[07:11] <DarkElf109> bayziders: There is no root user. To get a root shell, run 'sudo -s' at the shell
[07:12] <bayziders> ok yeah i just need to mount a fat32 so i cant move a file to it
[07:12] <DarkElf109> Zambezi: Wait, so, you encrypted a parittion, and now it won't decrypt?
[07:12] <DarkElf109> partition*
[07:12] <Zambezi> bayziders, Use sudo before the command.
[07:12] <DarkElf109> Eww...FAT32. I hope your file isn't over 2 gigs
[07:12] <harisund> I have a quick question. If I add a command in rc.local do I need to include sudo before it?
[07:12] <the_hammer> says to edit the lists of sources doesnt say what to put in it tho
[07:13] <tritium> sudo -i, bayziders
[07:13] <Zambezi> DarkElf109, Can we take it in PM? Less stress there.
[07:13] <DarkElf109> harisund: Nope. All the rc stuff is run as root
[07:13] <DarkElf109> Zambezi: Sure
[07:13] <harisund> Thanks DarkEl109 that's what I wanted to know. Sweet.
[07:13] <the_hammer> isnt there a way to point/click and set it on
[07:13] <DarkElf109> Zambezi: PM's only work for registered users, though
[07:13] <the_hammer> all i want is my stupid bot to work
[07:14] <Zambezi> DarkElf109, Join the temporary channel I have now?
[07:14] <the_hammer> its on desktop i cant get it going
[07:14] <DarkElf109> harisund: Now, if you want to run it as a different user, you could use sudo -u <username> <command>, and I think start-stop-demon takes a parameter to run as a different user
[07:14] <carthik> DarkElf109, find . -type f -iname '*.mp3' -print0 | xargs -0 mp3gain -r -k works Thank you
[07:14] <tritium> the_hammer: yes, there is.  System->Administration->Software Properties, enable Universe
[07:14] <DarkElf109> carthik: Glad I could help =)
[07:14] <Balin> Can someone help me mount my windows hd to linux?
[07:15] <DarkElf109> Balin: mount -t ntfs /dev/hd<drive><partition> /mount/point
[07:15] <rabeldable> how can I configure debconf for perl 5.8.7 ?
[07:15] <carthik> !tell Balin about fat
[07:15] <tritium> Balin: only for a share of your dwarf treasure
[07:15] <Balin> ahah
[07:15] <Balin> Yeah, I did that
[07:15] <Balin> and I'm fairly sure it's mounted
[07:15] <Balin> I just can't access it
[07:16] <Balin> it says I don't have the permission
[07:16] <DarkElf109> sudo -s for a root shell
[07:16] <tritium> sudo -i ;)
[07:16] <snoops> umask...
[07:16] <the_hammer> i have 5 items in system admin menue and dont say anything bout software props
[07:16] <Balin> err =X
[07:16] <snoops> also chown
[07:16] <Balin> tried chown
[07:16] <Balin> said it changed permissions
[07:16] <Balin> but I still can't get to it o_O
[07:16] <tritium> !enter
[07:16] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:16] <TehKewl1> why was sora_umi blocked?
[07:17] <TehKewl1> she's asking to be unblocked in #kubuntu
[07:17] <myk2> I am trying to setup dual-monitors on my ubuntu box, one display is 1440x900 the other is 1024x768, in windows I can just use extended desktop, what is the equivalent term for this in linux? thanks
[07:17] <rabeldable> tritium: I think i fixed it
[07:17] <the_hammer> device maniger,net work tools,printing,system log,system monitor <---only things listed in system admin
[07:17] <tritium> rabeldable: rock on!
[07:17] <Hobbsee> TehKewl1: i'm looking at it
[07:17] <rabeldable> i forgot I installed perl 5.8.7
[07:17] <DarkElf109> Balin: chown doesn't work for mounted drives...need to set mount options for the right uid
[07:17] <tritium> the_hammer: your install is hosed, then
[07:17] <DarkElf109> tritium: What's the difference between sudo -s and -i? I keep getting told, but I keep forgetting
[07:18] <tritium> DarkElf109: hold on, brb
[07:18] <rabeldable> i moved my /usr/bin/perl link to /usr/local/bin/perl and restored my original perl binary and everything is working
[07:18] <snoops> myk2 twinview for nvidia.. xinerama
[07:18] <the_hammer> well ill try my kubuntu then bbs
[07:19] <myk2> snoops: xinerama works for unequal  resolutions? cool, thanks ;)
[07:19] <rende> hi can i use apt-get to get mplayer or do i have to compile it myself?
[07:20] <bruenig> rende, apt-get will do
[07:20] <DarkElf109> rende: You can use apt-get
[07:20] <bruenig> !info mplayer
[07:20] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[07:20] <rende> ohhh thanks i didnt do the multiverse repo
[07:22] <harisund> What's the difference between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin ? I mean what get placed where and why?
[07:23] <professor_chaos> menu
[07:23] <bimberi_> harisund: /usr/local/bin is for your own executables - /usr/bin is for installed executables
[07:23] <professor_chaos> I deleted the Xchat menu by mistake. Anyone know how to get back?
[07:23] <DarkElf109> harisund: /usr/local is, generally, for anything self-compiled or manually installed
[07:23] <bruenig> harisund, I dont know about anybody else, but I tend to put my own bash scripts in /usr/local/bin, by which I mean scripts that don't launch apps
[07:24] <harisund> oh ok .. is that Ubuntu specific? or LSB specific?
[07:24] <bimberi_> harisund: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html
[07:24] <bimberi_> harisund: a Unix 'rule of thumb'
[07:24] <harisund> got you .. bimberi_ will have a look at that dcument .. ok .. thanks.
[07:24] <bimberi_> harisund: np :)
[07:24] <Half-Left> later
[07:25] <DarkElf109> Welcome back SushiK =)
[07:25] <myk2> bimberi: WOW thanks for that link that explains a LOT
[07:25] <tritium> DarkElf109: -i initializes the environment, while -s does not
[07:26] <ceruleantiger> anyone know how to force sites to display flash stuff when there is a check for flash player 8? Is there any way to disguise myself as flash 8 capable even though I'm not? (I assume that flash player 7 should be able to handle whatever flash video)
[07:26] <SushiK> darkelf: hi there
[07:26] <blinker> ok, is anyone around yet that can shed some light on repo update timeouts? I've been trying to get this working since install. the servers are working fine, but ubuntu/gnome still can't seem to access the files
[07:26] <Terminus> bruenig: ~/bin/ is ok too, if you don't want systemwide stuff.
[07:26] <ceruleantiger> specifically, cnet is now checking for flash player 8 so I can't watch any of their videos :(
[07:26] <bruenig> ceruleantiger, don't think so
[07:26] <bimberi_> myk2: np, yes it helps with understanding a lot :)
[07:27] <DarkElf109> tritium: Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
[07:27] <DarkElf109> ceruleantiger: Nope. Sorry
[07:27] <tritium> DarkElf109: :)
[07:27] <Balin> Hm, I used the auto mounter to mount my windows partition to linux
[07:27] <ceruleantiger> man, that sucks :(
[07:27] <Balin> and then used chown to change ownership to my account
[07:27] <Balin> and still
[07:27] <Balin> can't get into hdb2
[07:28] <bruenig> ceruleantiger, at least most sites use 7
[07:28] <Balin> any ideas?
[07:28] <bruenig> !enter
[07:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:28] <jn> hey what do i need to apt-get to make/make install
[07:28] <myk2> bimberi: yea, that was my biggest mystery w/ linux, what each dir in the fs ment
[07:28] <tritium> Balin: please watch the use of the enter key, when you could instead use complete sentences with periods
[07:28] <tritium> jn: build-essential
[07:28] <ceruleantiger> bruenig: yeah, but I've seen a lot of sites that are now checking for flash 8, but I *highly* doubt they really need the extra functionality provided just for videos
[07:29] <jn> tritium: i already have that
[07:29] <jn> hm
[07:29] <Balin> Alright, so the folder still says the root is the file owner, and the folder says unreadable...I don't know whats wrong =X
[07:29] <bruenig> ceruleantiger, I've only seen one of my viral sites do that, but then quickly afterwards it offered the option of using windows media instead thankfully
[07:30] <marshall__> hey guys
[07:31] <marshall__> is there any diference between 'aptitude' and 'apt-get'?
[07:31] <nalioth> marshall__: there are differences
[07:31] <DarkElf109> marshall__: Aptitude tracks dependencies
[07:31] <bruenig> !aptitude
[07:31] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:31] <DarkElf109> =)
[07:31] <cowmilk> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[07:31] <ceruleantiger> aptitude is newer for one thing
[07:31] <cowmilk> i used 7 zip to split a file into volumes (001, .002, 003). Now how do i put the file back together again?
[07:31] <marshall__> ohh
[07:32] <marshall__> so aptitude is better
[07:32] <marshall__> eh guys?
[07:32] <DarkElf109> Balin: mount -t fat -o uid=<username> /dev/hd<drive><part> /mnt/point
[07:32] <DarkElf109> marshall__: I like it better
[07:32] <marshall__> ok cool
[07:32] <tritium> marshall__: I prefer it too, but it's all personal preference
[07:33] <marshall__> thanks DarkElf109
[07:33] <ceruleantiger> I know this is a bit offtopic, but anyone have a macbook on here? If so, what is the worst part of it? Oh, and how's ubuntu's compatibility on it?
[07:33] <marshall__> tritium: ok
[07:33] <ceruleantiger> specifically, how's the wireless compatibility? (never had ubuntu on a laptop, but I've heard of wireless card compatibility nightmares)
[07:33] <marshall__> does anybody know how to get sound in flash with firefox? i had it before but i dont now
[07:33] <Balin> Elf, it says only root can do that
[07:33] <bruenig> marshall__, sometimes I have found it to install more dependencies than our necessary for some reason. Apt-getting something will give me some dependencies whereas aptitude will give me more only occasionally though
[07:33] <DarkElf109> Balin: So run it as root =)
[07:33] <bruenig> bad grammer
[07:33] <professor_chaos> Balin, permissions for your windows partition are set during mount. Like DarkElf109 shows, the uid will define what user has permission
[07:34] <Balin> Oh
[07:34] <jn> wtf, insert/shift insert stopped working in aterm for copy/paste between consoles
[07:34] <jn> im trying to show the error i get when i make
[07:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Does aptitude store more information somewhere, or does it just do more work when it checks for dependencies?  I'm wondering if there would be any problem mixing the use of apt-get, aptitude, and Synaptic.
[07:34] <blinker> ceruleantiger: wireless is just fine on my inspiron, can't say for mac
[07:34] <maimuta> Can anyone tell me how to change the hard drive numbers in menu.lst?
[07:34] <jn> curses.h no such file... panel.h no such file....
[07:34] <jn> i installed build-essential
[07:34] <DarkElf109> EnsignRedshirt: Yes, there is a problem. Aptitude does store stuff elsewhere, and if you install with some other app, it won't track those dependencies
[07:35] <Balin> How do I change users to root?  I just installed today so I'm rather linux...slow.
[07:35] <jn> tritium: any idea what i need
[07:35] <DarkElf109> maimuta: Exactly what do you need to change?
[07:35] <tritium> jn: for what?
[07:35] <bruenig> Balin, you don't change users to root. You use sudo to temporarily carry out commands as if a root user
[07:35] <ruxpin> Balin: su -
[07:35] <bruenig> !sudo
[07:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:35] <Balin> Oh yeah I forgot to sudo =X
[07:35] <tritium> Balin: sudo -i
[07:35] <blinker> sooo......no takers on repo update timeouts, eh? =\
[07:36] <bruenig> blinker, I have all of the ubuntu repos and some extra repos and they are all going for me, must be your system somewhere. Maybe check your sources.list to make sure it is correct
[07:36] <DarkElf109> blinker: You could try changing all the http:// to ftp:// in sources.list
[07:37] <EnsignRedshirt> jn: apt-get install libncurses5-dev (or whatever the version is in your ubuntu repository)
[07:37] <maimuta> I have 4 hds. The one that Ubuntu is installed on is sdb2 (hd0 in grub) but Ubuntu thinks that it is hd1 so I have to manually change the numbers every time the kernel is upgraded.
[07:37] <blinker> bruenig: already manually investigated each url - all good
[07:37] <blinker> DarkElf109: I'll try that and let ya know
[07:37] <EnsignRedshirt> jn:  ... or use aptitude, or Synaptic :)
[07:37] <DarkElf109> blinker: In vim: :%s/http/ftp/g
[07:37] <jn> EnsignRedshirt: ty
[07:38] <ceruleantiger> Balin: for some stuff, you may need to actually log in as root as sudo will not work (usually crappily written proprietary software installers - i.e. matlab), in which case you just create a user named root and log in
[07:38] <jn> what will synaptic or aptitude do?
[07:38] <blinker> DarkElf109: vim?
[07:38] <bruenig> jn, synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, all do essentially the same thing just in slightly different ways
[07:38] <ceruleantiger> Balin: but you probably won't need to do that if you're not installing anything special
[07:38] <DarkElf109> blinker: Hrm...better stay out of vim for now then =)
[07:38] <TehKewl1> synaptic has a nice gui
[07:38] <bimberi_> !synaptic
[07:38] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:38] <blinker> heh, righto
[07:38] <gdb> Balin: You can simply use "sudo -i" for a root login.
[07:39] <blinker> i'm no stranger to compies, networking, programming, etc...just linux
[07:39] <ceruleantiger> jn: they are package managers, they install/uninstall software essentially
[07:39] <DarkElf109> maimuta: Find the groot option in /boot/grub/menu.list ... might be what you need
[07:39] <marshall__> who likes linux anyway?
[07:39] <ceruleantiger> blinker: yeah, just like me when I started :)
[07:39] <maimuta> DarkElf109: I'll try that.  Thanks.
[07:39] <DarkElf109> blinker: vim is an insanely powerful text editor. It's just got a learning curve that resembles a brick wall
[07:40] <jn> im still getting errors, "error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id"
[07:40] <bruenig> DarkElf109, thats no joke. I tried to learn vim and almost blew my brains out
[07:40] <blinker> DarkElf109:  ahh, well then I look forward to when I get around to fscking up my system with it, hah
[07:40] <bruenig> !language
[07:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:41] <ceruleantiger> jn: what are you doing?
[07:41] <DarkElf109> bruenig: fsck is a command! You know that! =)
[07:41] <bruenig> nothing like good ole censorship to get the linux bug going
[07:41] <Balin> Wahooo....I finally mounted my XP files, thanks guys.  Any help with making it mount on startup?
[07:41] <bruenig> lol
[07:41] <DarkElf109> Balin: man fstab
[07:41] <ceruleantiger> Balin: there's a file /etc/fstab, you need to edit that so that there is a line in it for windows and a corresponding mount point
[07:42] <amonkey> hey #ubuntu, what's your favorite widget program?
[07:42] <bimberi_> !mountwindows
[07:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about mountwindows - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:42] <J-_> is there a way to play movies in xmms?
[07:42] <jn> also says try removing the parentheses around the type-id
[07:42] <ceruleantiger> Balin: try adding this: /dev/hda1    /windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[07:42] <amonkey> !widget
[07:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about widget - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:42] <amonkey> !widgets
[07:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about widgets - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:42] <DarkElf109> amonkey: Compiz + AIGLX. Turns my whole desktop into a widget =P
[07:42] <DarkElf109> J-_: Nope. Just audio
[07:42] <bruenig> DarkElf109, is squidguard as easily bypassed as websense? proxy avoidance and your good to go?
[07:42] <J-_> Compiz looks awesome
[07:42] <marshall__> amonkey: yeah compiz and xgl are sexy
[07:43] <ceruleantiger> then type 'mkdir /windows' and then 'mount -a' and it should be mounted
[07:43] <DarkElf109> bruenig: Depends on the blocklists used
[07:43] <DarkElf109> bruenig: SquidGuard doesn't do content filtering, only URL and, at most, URL with regular expressions
[07:43] <Balin> Alright, thanks tiger
[07:43] <blinker> erm...where is sources.list located again?
[07:43] <DarkElf109> blinker: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <Madpilot> blind, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <bruenig> DarkElf109, so it would block the great penisland.com
[07:43] <blinker> thx
[07:44] <blind> Madpilot: yeah?
[07:44] <blind> :P
[07:44] <amonkey> DarkElf109, marshall__, already got that taken care of
[07:44] <Bonez> hi can anyoen help me with kaffeine? i have a question about streaming.. can't find much info anywhere else
[07:44] <Madpilot> blind, sorry, tab-complete error... doh!
[07:44] <tritium> bruenig: watch your language!!!
[07:44] <blind> No prob :P
[07:44] <blind> tritium: that's pen island dot com :P
[07:44] <bruenig> or rather penisland.net, got the url wrong
[07:44] <jn-> any ideas about the error im recieving?
[07:44] <ceruleantiger> jn-: what's the problem? I'm kinda new, but I'll try to help (it's also really hard to scroll backwards, so try saying as much as possible in one line)
[07:44] <bruenig> they sell pens I believe
[07:45] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: What are you trying to install?
[07:45] <DarkElf109> ceruleantiger: What client are you using?
[07:45] <tritium> bruenig: stop
[07:45] <Bonez> hi can anyone help me with kaffeine? i have a question about streaming.. can't find much info anywhere else
[07:45] <marshall__> i put a dvd movie into one of my dvd drives and a blank dvd into my dvd writing drive. the drive with the movie in it isnt showing in 'Computer' (computer:///)
[07:45] <bruenig> i thought that was a well known thing
[07:45] <marshall__> does anybody know how i can fix this?
[07:45] <ceruleantiger> DarkMageZ: what do you mean? I'm using kopete...?
[07:46] <harisund> Does Samba on Ubuntu support CIFS Unix FIle extensions? I am trying to network with a Fedore Core 5 machine, and on FC5 smbfs support is replaced with CIFS ...
[07:46] <bruenig> they seriously do sell pens but I suppose I overestimated the extent of fame that site has gotten from its hilariously ambiguous name
[07:46] <sri_> can any one tell where the shell scripting irc??
[07:46] <jn-> ls
[07:47] <DarkMageZ> DarkMageZ, please be alittle more cautious with the autocomplete
[07:47] <DarkElf109> ceruleantiger: Ah. Never used that one, Honestly, I'd recommend irssi or BitchX, but that's because I love console apps =)
[07:47] <mcquaid> hello, I was making some screencasts of a few apps, and thinking others might want to see them.  But I've never bothered with blogging.
[07:47] <sri_> can any one tell where the shell scripting discussion takes place?
[07:47] <mcquaid> Does anyone know any blog sites that allow one to upload flash videos?
[07:47] <DarkMageZ> ceruleantiger, please be alittle more careful with the autocomplete
[07:48] <ceruleantiger> DarkMageZ: kopete is a kde app. It's kinda crummy, but it has a level of integration with kde that I like a lot...
[07:48] <DarkElf109> mcquaid: Wordpress.com might have it
[07:48] <bimberi_> mcquaid: #bash ??
[07:48] <bruenig> mcquaid, google video
[07:48] <ceruleantiger> DarkMageZ: oh, sorry about that
[07:48] <jn-> has anyone installed pftpfxp
[07:48] <bimberi_> sri_: #bash  ??  (corry mcquaid)
[07:48] <bruenig> mcquaid, then embed or youtube then embed
[07:48] <bimberi_> *sorry
[07:48] <sri_> bimberi_, ok
[07:48] <mcquaid> ya I'd rather not google video, i wouldn't mind my own blog to keep em all organized
[07:48] <Bonez> hi can anyone help me with kaffeine? i have a question about streaming.. can't find much info anywhere else
[07:49] <ceruleantiger> jn-: what is it? I can't even find a package with that in it
[07:49] <mcquaid> i remember an article comparing all the blogging services but can't find it right now
[07:49] <jn-> fxp/ftp client
[07:50] <DarkElf109> mcquaid: Wordpress.com might have support. Not certain
[07:50] <marshall__> i need some help with my dvd drives, when i put a movie in my dvd drive, totem comes up and it plays, but the drive doesnt show up in computer:///
[07:50] <DarkElf109> marshall__: Any icon on the desktop?
[07:50] <mcquaid> DarkElf109, ya i'm checking that one now
[07:50] <blinker> DarkElf109: its givving me permission errors on save (used "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" from terminal)
[07:50] <marshall__> DarkElf109: no
[07:50] <tylerdurden> i just installed ubuntu... and i never gave a root password... is there a default root pw?
[07:50] <mcquaid> hmm wordpress isn't too informative of what it actually offers
[07:51] <ceruleantiger> jn-: where are you installing it from? there is no such package in the repositories for dapper
[07:51] <DarkElf109> blinker: That makes sense. It's only root-editable. Most things outside for your home directory are
[07:51] <bimberi_> !root > tylerdurden
[07:51] <DarkElf109> blinker: You need to run it with "sudo <command>"
[07:51] <blinker> k
[07:51] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: What does running ./configure  in the pftpfxp-mew directory do?
[07:51] <marshall__> tylerdurden: fight club is the best movie
[07:51] <ceruleantiger> jn-: oh, forget it, I don't want to waste your time, I'm probably too much of a noob to help on this one :P sorry!
[07:51] <tylerdurden> marshall__, i agree
[07:52] <tylerdurden> bimberi_, is the exclamation included in that?
[07:52] <jn-> it creates the make file
[07:52] <jn-> but im having problems from there
[07:52] <marshall__> tylerdurden: do you by any chance have the soundtrack on your computer?
[07:52] <jn-> says arry bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
[07:52] <bimberi_> tylerdurden: hopefully ubotu sent you a /msg with a link to read up on how superuser works in ubuntu
[07:52] <tylerdurden> marshall__, sorry... just one song by the dust brothers
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: ./configure did not report any errors?
[07:52] <jn-> nope
[07:52] <tylerdurden> oh gotcha... thanks bimberi_
[07:52] <marshall__> tylerdurden: 'This is your life' right?
[07:53] <blinker> DarkElf109:  was it you that suggested http->ftp swap?
[07:53] <bimberi_> tylerdurden: yw :)
[07:53] <jn-> actually it says OpenSSL not found
[07:53] <DarkElf109> blinker: Yeah
[07:53] <blinker> well it worked
[07:53] <jn-> but then it says you can do make static or make dynamic
[07:53] <DarkElf109> blinker: =)
[07:53] <blinker> thanks bunches
[07:53] <jn-> i dont know why it doesnt find openssl
[07:53] <Bonez> if I am streaming DVB from Kaffeine out to my network, which ms windows based software would you use on another pc to display the stream? VLC wont work
[07:53] <tylerdurden> thanks bimberi_   i didnt know it was locked
[07:53] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: Start up Synaptic, and do a search for openssl.  There is probably a -dev package. Install it.
[07:53] <fake_-> how do I force windows to open on a certain monitor?
[07:53] <DarkElf109> blinker: Glad to help. I'm just trying to spread the breadcrumbs around so that I'm not the only one who knows this stuff...eventually, I'm gonna forget it all, and come back here...and I expect you to know it! =)
[07:54] <bioticpro> Anyone using xmame, I need help with video setup please
[07:54] <marshall__> DarkElf109: also, when i put a blank dvd into my dvd burning drive, a dialog comes up and asks me what i want to do with it and an icon appears on the desktop, but they both disappear pretty quickly
[07:54] <blinker> well i saw like 3 people in here earlier with similar probs, so i'll be able to answer than one for them now, heh
[07:55] <DarkElf109> marshall__: I really don't know...never seen anything like that before
[07:55] <marshall__> DarkElf109: lol ok
[07:55] <DarkElf109> blinker: Heh. Didn't know it was so widespread. HTTP is faster though, and much more preferred, but, at least it works this way
[07:55] <fake_-> Is it possible to force metacity to open windows on the current monitor only?
[07:56] <jn-> where is the openssl dir?
[07:57] <jn-> no packages found in synaptic
[07:57] <jn-> whats the line to search for a file/dir
[07:57] <tritium> jn-: what do you want to install?  The server?  openssh-server
[07:57] <jn-> find something something *file*
[07:57] <DarkElf109> jn-: locate
[07:58] <DarkElf109> jn-: locate <name>
[07:58] <rabeldable> tritium: i fixed perl and breezy is now updated
[07:58] <rabeldable> I bet I can even upgrade to dapper now... probably
[07:59] <chris86wm> my inspiron 6000's hard drive clicks every few seconds when I use ubuntu. can I fix this?
[07:59] <tylerdurden> to get higher resolution when booting... do u append vga=773 or vga=791 to menu.lst
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: In Syaptic, there is a big "Search" button.  If you search for openssl, you'l; find a lot of packages.  Among them, I see libssl-dev.  I don't know if that provides the openssl library that you need, but you could try it. (You can always remove it later.)
[07:59] <DarkElf109> chris86wm: Hit it with a hammer a few times, really hard. I guarantee it'll stop clicking =)
[07:59] <chris86wm> lol
[07:59] <tritium> rabeldable: good job ;)
[08:00] <chris86wm> its a really odd problem, in windows it doesnt do this
[08:00] <J-_> http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j167/justin_c18/Screenshot.png
[08:01] <blinker> chris86wm: call dell about that one. i'm on the same machine w/no sound
[08:02] <chris86wm> blinker, but the click doesnt happen in windows
[08:02] <blinker> hm
[08:02] <Bonez> hi I have an HP multifunction centre, I can print and scan ok, but how to set up support for ubuntu to send faxes from pc?
[08:02] <jn-> i have openssl already
[08:02] <jn-> it's in dapper by default
[08:03] <clemons> My sound stopped working in kubuntu after my first reboot (it happened last time I installed too). I know this isn't #kubuntu, but does anyone have any linux advice that might help?
[08:03] <chris86wm> its annoying as hell
[08:03] <chris86wm> the little harddrive activity light flashes and i hear a click every 3 seconds or so
[08:03] <fake_-> Is it possible to force metacity to open windows on the current monitor only?
[08:03] <Bonez> hi I have an HP multifunction centre, I can print and scan ok, but how to set up support for ubuntu to send faxes from pc?
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: What is the exact error that you get about openssl?  Does ./configure say anything about it?  If so, *exactly* what does it say?
[08:05] <jn-> server.cc: In member function [Server::SortFilelist(bool, bool)
[08:05] <jn-> error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
[08:06] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: That looks like a compilation error.
[08:06] <jn-> ?
[08:07] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: Did you get that error when you ran ./configure?  Or make?
[08:07] <J-_> i have a lexmark  x2330 allinoner, what driver should i use?
[08:07] <jn-> make
[08:07] <jn-> it configured ok
[08:07] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: But why were you asking about openssl?
[08:07] <kana> J-_: lexmarks are known to be problamatic
[08:08] <kana> !printer > J-_
[08:08] <threat> What is ubuntu-server?  does it ship with or without X?
[08:08] <jn-> for ./configure i think that might be a problem
[08:08] <DarkElf109> threat: Without
[08:08] <jn-> it says try ./configure <--openssldir [dir] >
[08:08] <bimberi_> !server > threat
[08:08] <jn-> so that would be ./configure /etc/bin correct?
[08:08] <threat> DarkElf109, nice
[08:09] <threat> DarkElf109, any other nifty packages it comes with?
[08:10] <threat> bignose_, you do relise that ! negates the server?
[08:10] <blinker> ok, gang I have one more question. on these failed repository indexes, i'm noticing the following portion of the error message: "Could not connect to 192.168:8080 (192.0.0.168), connection timed out"... shouldn't A) it be set for port 80  and B) whats with the 2-octed ip? info on how to fix these if this could be the source of the prob would be great
[08:10] <DarkElf109> threat: apt-cache show ubuntu-server
[08:10] <noobie0057> quick question,, where should I keep files that I want to share between users?
[08:10] <threat> apt-cache show ubuntu-server
[08:10] <threat> W: Unable to locate package ubuntu-server
[08:11] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: If the openssldir is supposed to be the directory that contains the openssl command, then the option should be --/usr/bin
[08:11] <jn-> that doesnt work
[08:11] <bimberi_> threat: hehe, no, in that syntax it triggers ubotu to /msg you with the server factoid :)
[08:11] <jn-> forget that step for a second
[08:11] <jn-> i got it configured just without ssl i worry about that later
[08:11] <jn-> when i goto make it runs the scrips but when it fails when it gets to server.cc
[08:12] <jn-> EnsignRedshirt: maybe you can get the package and take a look at it?
[08:12] <DarkElf109> !info ubuntu-server
[08:12] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-server does not exist in dapper
[08:12] <threat> bimberi_, lol
[08:12] <DarkElf109> Hrm...news to me...
[08:12] <bimberi_> threat: certainly not trying to insult you or anything! :)
[08:13] <threat> bimberi_, :)
[08:13] <threat> bimberi_, of corse not
[08:13] <J-_> when i use the "add a printer option, it recognizes the printer series. jsut don't know which driver to use
[08:13] <threat> bimberi_, it looked liek you were trying to construct some type of logical statement :)
[08:14] <DarkElf109> threat: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[08:14] <bll3r87> hello whats up everyone
[08:14] <threat> DarkElf109, thnx
[08:14] <threat> DarkElf109, do you run the server?
[08:15] <kana> J-_: there might be a driver for it or they might not be one did you check ubotu pm also check if the driver is availabale at linuxprinting.org
[08:15] <DarkElf109> threat: No, but I'm running a school district web filtering system off of it. Why?
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> J-_: look up your printer at linuxprinting.org
[08:15] <threat> DarkElf109, just wondering if it is any good :)  I have had issues with a few of the packages in ubuntu (only GUI packages so far like scite)
[08:16] <threat> DarkElf109, I mean would Debian Sarge be a more stable environment?
[08:16] <DarkElf109> threat: Sure, but I don't even run stable on my personal server =P
[08:16] <DarkElf109> Yay Sid =)
[08:16] <threat> DarkElf109, lol
[08:17] <threat> DarkElf109, yay segfaults! yay uptime! :)
[08:17] <DarkElf109> I was having this same discussion about 12 hours ago. I ended up agreeing with afriend of mine that, really, it comes down to a matter of preference
[08:17] <DarkElf109> Hey, I had 6 months uptime before a power outage =P
[08:17] <threat> DarkElf109, using well tested code against poorly tested or untested code is hardly a question of preference
[08:17] <threat> DarkElf109, heh :)
[08:18] <Bonez> hi I have an HP multifunction centre, I can print and scan ok, but how to set up support for ubuntu to send faxes from pc?
[08:18] <Farhad> Hi, I installed Apache and PHP from "Synaptic Package Manager", now where is httpd.conf and php.ini?
[08:18] <threat> DarkElf109, sid is testing or unstable?
[08:18] <DarkElf109> Sure, Debian Sarge is going to be more stable, but if you want more up-to-date packages, plus the whole of the Ubuntu community, then Ubuntu server is the way to go
[08:18] <esc_ape> hello. I am trying to trouble-shoot my wireless card. following the instructions onhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide - it says to "Try booting with kernel option pci=noacpi or acpi=off". how do I do this?
[08:18] <DarkElf109> threat: Sid is, and always shall be, unstable
[08:18] <threat> DarkElf109, ok, so etch is what? experimental? or testing?
[08:19] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: That's a C++ error.  The compiler is complaining about this statement: dir_list = new (FILELIST *)[dir_count] ;
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> esc_ape: edit the grub line for the kernel, and add those to end of the line starting with kernel
[08:19] <Farhad> pls help me
[08:19] <bll3r87> Bonez do a "find / -name httpd.conf 2>/dev/null"
[08:19] <DarkElf109> Farhad: /etc/apache/apache2.conf and /etc/php/php.ini
[08:19] <DarkElf109> Farhad: Something like that
[08:19] <DarkElf109> threat: Testing, yeah
[08:19] <esc_ape> fyrestrtr: thanks. how do I edit grub?
[08:20] <DarkElf109> esc_ape: sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> esc_ape: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:20] <Bonez> bll3r87: what is that meant to do?
[08:20] <threat> DarkElf109,  ok :)
[08:20] <DarkElf109> menu.lst, yeah =)
[08:20] <esc_ape> thanks darkelf109 & fyrestrtr
[08:20] <bll3r87> search
[08:20] <bll3r87> its just a simple search command
[08:20] <bll3r87> that redirects error message to the trash
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> Bonez: print an error message
[08:21] <Bonez> fyrestrtr: why would I need that? I don't have any errors
[08:21] <jn-> where can i get the openssl develpment packages?
[08:22] <jn-> thats what i need, found out
[08:22] <jn-> i tried searching synaptic but no luck
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Bonez: exactly ;) You won't need that command, even if you were to type it out, it wouldn't work. Apache configuration files are in /etc/apache2/
[08:22] <Bonez> fyrestrtr: i don't have a problem with apache, i was asking about a HP printer. rofl. I think he must have pressed tab a bit too soon ;)
[08:22] <DarkElf109> jn-: apt-cache search openssl | grep dev | less
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> jn-: libssl-dev
[08:23] <DarkElf109> fyrestrtr: Bah. You make it too easy =P
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Bonez: oh lol
[08:23] <jn-> ty
[08:23] <esc_ape> fyrestrtr: where should I enter in "pci=noacpi" on menu.lst? at the end?
[08:23] <stoned> I need to do a very minimal install, CLI only of ubuntu dapper 6.06.  I have the cd they shipped to me.  I went through the installer but didn't find any options for a minimal install.  What do I need to do?
[08:24] <DarkElf109> stoned: You need the ubuntu server cd
[08:24] <mr-russ> hi, how do you change the ubuntu server 6.06 LTS screen resolution for the command line?
[08:24] <stoned> is there a netinstall kernel/ramdisk image I can use instead?
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> esc_ape: find the first line that reads kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26 [some other stuff here]  ro quiet splash pci=nacpi
[08:25] <SushiK> Could someone tell me of a good antivirus package i could use with ubuntu.. one which will detect and disinfect boot sector virii?
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> stoned: there is a way to do that, its documented in the installation page on the wiki
[08:25] <esc_ape> fyrestrtr: ok found it
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: clamav is a good one.
[08:25] <mr-russ> SushiK: run grub, it will overright boot sector for you.  clamav as a virus scanner.
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> kapersky is another (its not free though)
[08:25] <odiousone> how do i unzip a self-extracting windows exe?
[08:26] <esc_ape> odiousone: use wine
[08:26] <threat> what package is required for the ubuntu GPG pub keys?
[08:26] <DarkElf109> odiousone: Just try running unzip on it. Might work
[08:26] <DarkElf109> threat: gnupg
[08:26] <SushiK> fyrestrtr: Do you know if clamav will fix boot sector virii?
[08:26] <odiousone> DarkElf109, doesn't :/
[08:26] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: I don't think that line in server.cc is kosher C++ (but I'm not an expert in the subleties).
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: I don't know about that, sorry. But you can look it up on their webpage and find out.
[08:26] <DarkElf109> Well, then, yeah, wine
[08:26] <SushiK> mr-russ: I'm trying to fix a virus Empire.Monkey.b which moves the MBR
[08:27] <threat> DarkElf109, that will fix apt-get errors about source is not verified or something?
[08:27] <SushiK> mr-russ: If i just replace the MBR i will lose my old MBR and partition table
[08:27] <SushiK> its a virus from back in 1996, i was hoping it would be easy to fix
[08:27] <DarkElf109> !tell darkelf109 about source-o-matic
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: try searching for a virus-fix-floppy or something similar at the major antivirus vendors.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: MBR has nothing to do with the partition table.
[08:27] <DarkElf109> threat: Sending you a PM
[08:28] <SushiK> I have a program called S-Prot which was supposed to be able to disinfect this ivrus
[08:28] <SushiK> virus*
[08:28] <SushiK> but it didn't work
[08:28] <sysdoc> F-Prot
[08:28] <nrdb> I have just installed ubuntu, I was wondering how change operation that happens when you press the power button, at the moment it ask what type of thing to do, I would like it to just power down the computer.  anyone know how to do this?
[08:28] <SushiK> fyrestrtr: description of the virus - http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/monkey.shtml
[08:29] <sysdoc> SushiK,  if you need to rewrite the partition table see teskdisk
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> jn-: It's far too late for my eye to be open.  Good luck.  Ciao.
[08:29] <sysdoc> Google testdisk
[08:29] <timalot> hi, anyone running mysql-query-browser on ubuntu dapper?
[08:29] <dragon_> hi
[08:30] <SushiK> sysdoc: I see it right here in my package manager list
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> timalot: sure
[08:30] <timalot> fyrestrtr: no problems? i am getting an error when i try to click on the sql syntax list to open up the info
[08:30] <mr-russ> why is the server screen resolution 720x400 ?
[08:30] <sysdoc> Run it from a  boot disk
[08:30] <DarkElf109> threat: If you didn't get that PM, see the top of http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:30] <dragon_> somone told me that synacptic has frostwire ... n e 1 know about it?
[08:31] <DarkElf109> !info frostwire
[08:31] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in dapper
[08:31] <DarkElf109> Nope. Not there. Sorry
[08:31] <SushiK> mr-russ: Have you used testdisk successfully before?
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> !frostwire
[08:31] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:31] <apeman2020> !info mysql
[08:31] <ubotu> Package mysql does not exist in dapper
[08:31] <mr-russ> SushiK: no
[08:31] <dragon_> thanx
[08:32] <sysdoc> SushiK, I have used testdisk before, and swear by it
[08:32] <DarkElf109> fyrestrtr: Cheater =P
[08:33] <sysdoc> SushiK,  saved gigs of data for a client of mine...:)
[08:35] <SushiK> how do i enlarge the terminal to 25 lines?
[08:35] <SushiK> I'm about to give this testdisk a go
[08:35] <threat> DarkElf109, ok
[08:35] <sysdoc> SushiK, just run teskdisk and choose the 'scan' option
[08:36] <SushiK> ok i can't get it going yet, though. it needs 25 lines in the terminal
[08:36] <sysdoc> Then follow the directions to rewrite the partition table
[08:36] <sobersabre> hi guys, i am buying a new computer.
[08:36] <sysdoc> Run it from a boot dish\k
[08:36] <sobersabre> it will be running ubuntu.
[08:36] <sysdoc> disk sorry
[08:36] <SushiK> sysdoc: I'm running a live ubuntu CD right now
[08:36] <sobersabre> i want to know what
[08:37] <sysdoc> SushiK,  can I pm you?
[08:37] <SushiK> yes no problem
[08:37] <timalot> fyrestrtr: can u try running mysql-query-browser , and try double clicking on a item in the sql syntax list to display it?
[08:37] <sobersabre> 's the diff between the 64bit's ddr2 am2 amd dual core cpu's and the s939 amd 64 dual core
[08:39] <nrdb> I am looking for a way to make the power button shutdown the computer, can anyone help?
[08:39] <sobersabre> nrdb doesn't it shutdown the machine already ?!??!??
[08:39] <bll3r87> lol
[08:39] <bll3r87> shutdown -r now
[08:39] <bll3r87> i mean
[08:39] <bll3r87> shutdown now
[08:40] <bll3r87> or create an aliast
[08:40] <userundefine> Sounds like he's talking about the physical power button
[08:40] <nrdb> sobersabre: it puts up a little window asking if I want to reset/shutdown/logout etc.
[08:40] <bll3r87> alias p="sudo shutdown now"
[08:40] <userundefine> nevermind
[08:40] <sobersabre> nrdb press and wait.
[08:41] <LKC> hello
[08:41] <userundefine> Hello LKC
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> timalot: okay give me a few minutes
[08:41] <nrdb> bll3r87: sobersabre: I want the power button to do the same as the shutdown command, without any further help.
[08:41] <timalot> fyrestrtr: thanx
[08:41] <LKC> i am new to Ubuntu and IRC so is there any pros here who can help me?
[08:41] <sobersabre> nrdb it depends on the BIOS
[08:42] <userundefine> !ask > LKC
[08:42] <dragon_> ok i installed lime wire...i open it nuttin happens....website says to put java in its path?,
[08:42] <dragon_> frostwire rather
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> dragon_: install java
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> !java
[08:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:42] <dragon_> i have...
[08:42] <nrdb> sobersabre: the BIOS only controls if the power button send a signal or turns the computer off.
[08:43] <dragon_> i installed java last night
[08:43] <TheKittenEater> Hey, can anyone help out a *nix n00b?
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> dragon_: did you configure your system to use the new java vm? Read the last few sections of the wiki entry
[08:43] <userundefine> !ask > TheKittenEater
[08:43] <dragon_> ok
[08:43] <timalot> fyrestrtr: looks like its a know bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mysql-query-browser/+bug/45902
[08:44] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: don't touch those kittens
[08:44] <SushiK> sysdoc: hey sorry
[08:44] <SushiK> i can't pm because im unregistered
[08:44] <SushiK> i'd love to see what you have
[08:45] <sobersabre> nrdb if what you said was the only thing BIOS controlled, it would be difficult to control the computer.
[08:45] <apeman2020> can anyone tell me how to remove mysqld?
[08:45] <apeman2020> apt-get remove mysqld?
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> timalot: could be -- I just never use that feature to be honest.
[08:45] <TheKittenEater> !ask
[08:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> apeman2020: apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[08:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SushiK about registere
[08:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about registere - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SushiK about register
[08:45] <TheKittenEater> Alright, I installed Ubuntu on a seperate partition from my XP partition. Keep in mind this is my first time using Linux. How can I use GRUB so I can choose from booting XP or Ubuntu?
[08:45] <sysdoc> SushiK, so register...
[08:46] <Snake> Where can I get antispyware software for linux?
[08:46] <sysdoc> Madeye, thx
[08:46] <userundefine> TheKittenEater, when you boot the computer, you don't see the GRUB boot menu giving the the option for Ubuntu or Windows?
[08:46] <sysdoc> ack
[08:46] <sysdoc> Madpilot, thx
[08:46] <Madpilot> Snake, there is no such thing
[08:46] <Madeye> np :-)
[08:46] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: when you reboot doesn't it put up a screen asking you what you want to run Linux/windows?
[08:46] <apeman2020> fyrestrtr: thanks@!
[08:46] <Madpilot> sysdoc, np ;)
[08:46] <SushiK> sysdoc: Hey so i'm using this testdisk program from the ubuntu live cd
[08:46] <Snake> Madpilot: well what do I do if I get infected then?
[08:46] <SushiK> i'm wondering how do i get it to point at the hard drive
[08:47] <userundefine> Snake, you don't get infected
[08:47] <SushiK> and not just the temporary hard drive the live cd has setup here
[08:47] <TheKittenEater> No, I can only chose from Ubuntu when I restart
[08:47] <Madpilot> Snake, there is no spyware for Linux, that's why there's not spyware removers
[08:47] <sysdoc> SushiK,  choose scan
[08:47] <Snake> userundefine: How do you figure, it could install with wine right??
[08:47] <LKC> how do i connect to a wireless network using Ubuntu? (when i run the wireless program it says there is no hardware)
[08:47] <bll3r87> LKC iwconfig
[08:48] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: I just did that and the windows option is right down the bottom of the list presented at boot time.
[08:48] <LKC> can u plz explain that to me im very n00b
[08:48] <bigbill52a> that is interesting..first time that i ever got my cam to work in linux....
[08:48] <Snake> Madpilot: see above..
[08:48] <TheKittenEater> Alright nrdb, I'll try again and see what's up. Thanks
[08:48] <SushiK> sysdoc: hmm.. i dont see that in the main options here
[08:48] <Madpilot> Snake, best bet is to avoid running random cr*p in Wine, then
[08:49] <SushiK> i have analyse, advanced, geometry, options, dleete, mbr code, quit
[08:49] <Snake> Madpilot: but I need my comet cursor :(
[08:49] <Snake> j/p man
[08:49] <Snake> Alright
[08:49] <bll3r87> whats Wine?
[08:49] <userundefine> Snake, there are tons of cursors for Gnome
[08:49] <Snake> !wine
[08:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:49] <nrdb> bll3r87: Wine the program is a windows emulator.
[08:49] <bll3r87> oh
[08:49] <bll3r87> good
[08:49] <bll3r87> lol . . .
[08:49] <Snake> nrdb: wine is not a emulator
[08:49] <userundefine> Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)
[08:49] <bll3r87> god*
[08:50] <Snake> nrdb: Recursive Acronym
[08:50] <SushiK> sysdoc: the only disk that comes up is /dev/hdc
[08:50] <bll3r87> hm maybe i should go download IE for linux next
[08:50] <sysdoc> that be the one
[08:50] <bll3r87> lol
[08:50] <SushiK> and its the temporary that the boot cd setup
[08:50] <SushiK> i think
[08:50] <Snake> bll3r87: it runs faster in wine that XP :P
[08:50] <Snake> :)
[08:50] <SushiK> cuz its only 697 mb
[08:50] <Snake> than***
[08:50] <sysdoc> hmmm
[08:50] <sysdoc> you need my disk
[08:50] <SushiK> alright
[08:51] <SushiK> yeah i mean i did 'analyse'
[08:51] <nrdb> Snake: maybe not, but people understand that easier than trying to say exactly what it is and the difference isn't much to the operation.
[08:51] <SushiK> didn't come up with anything
[08:51] <sysdoc> scan
[08:51] <sysdoc> it'll scan the hd
[08:51] <sysdoc> find the partitions and rebuild the partition table
[08:52] <SushiK> sysdoc: sorry what? is 'scan' a command?
[08:52] <sysdoc> It won't be bootable afterwards but it'll allow you reinstall and get the data or just copy the data
[08:52] <zugu> hi all
[08:52] <userundefine> sysdoc, what program is that you're talking about that can rebuild a partition table?
[08:53] <sysdoc> teskdisk
[08:53] <userundefine> interesting, thanks
[08:53] <J-_> anyone know how i can get my lexmark x2330 printer working?
[08:53] <bll3r87> cups
[08:53] <sysdoc> I saved about 7 gigs of data using it about 2 weeks ago
[08:53] <J-_> it recognizes the printer, just doesn't print
[08:53] <sysdoc> Very happy client...:)
[08:55] <TheKittenEater> Alright, I'm back. Like I said before, Windows XP doesn't show up in GRUB. I know I didn't delete it. Do I have to add it in somehow?
[08:56] <JKOder> hello
[08:56] <Silentread> thekitteneater, is there an option called other?
[08:56] <JKOder> can anyone help me with an Update issue on Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[08:56] <userundefine> !ask
[08:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:56] <TheKittenEater> silentread, I don't quite remember, would it be in there?
[08:56] <neuro> I'm formatting a HDD to install ubuntu 6.06 to, should i format it as ext2fs or ext3fs?
[08:56] <JKOder> Yesterday i have installed Ubuntu 6.06 and i did an update
[08:56] <JKOder> after that my pc is VERY VERY SLOW!!!
[08:56] <SushiK> sysdoc: hey so what is the disk you have?
[08:56] <Silentread> thekitteneater, after it lists the ubuntu kernels
[08:57] <JKOder> and i have some modules like bluetooth and irda and mabye some other that i dont need since i dont have bluetooth or irda on my laptop
[08:57] <Silentread> thekitteneater, it might go ubuntu, ubuntu (recorvery), ubuntu, ubuntu (recovery), other or somthing like that
[08:57] <J-_> my scanner works as a copier... wtf
[08:57] <SushiK> sysdoc: got it, thanks.. how does it work?
[08:57] <Madpilot> J-_, lots of them do
[08:58] <JKOder> what should be the reason ?
[08:58] <sysdoc> Burn a CD from the iso and boot to it
[08:58] <JKOder> or how to unload specific modules so they wont run at nex boot ?
[08:58] <J-_> i know, the printer doesnt work though heh
[08:58] <sysdoc> Run testdisk
[08:58] <sysdoc> :)
[08:58] <TheKittenEater> Alright silentread, I'll take another look. Thanks
[08:58] <Silentread> thekitteneater, no problem
[08:59] <JKOder> anyone ?
[08:59] <SushiK> sysdoc: no problem with being discreet
[08:59] <bll3r87> whats the question JKOder
[08:59] <SushiK> hey thanks a bunch
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> JKOder: blacklist them
[08:59] <JKOder> My computer is VERY slow after Ubuntu Upfdate
[08:59] <JKOder> *update sorry
[09:00] <bll3r87> hm im not sure
[09:00] <JKOder> can you tell me how to black list them ? because i dont know
[09:00] <bll3r87> how much storage did you set aside for linux?
[09:00] <_Shade_> hi there
[09:00] <JKOder> my root partition is 10GB
[09:00] <JKOder> my home is 5GB
[09:00] <DarkElf109> Alright veryone. I'm heading to bed. Night all
[09:00] <JKOder> and my swap if 700MB
[09:00] <DarkElf109> everyone*
[09:00] <bll3r87> hm
[09:00] <bll3r87> how much ram do you have?
[09:01] <JKOder> 256
[09:01] <_Shade_> does nvidia-legacy drivers work on the latest kernel ? I mean the 2.6.15-26 one ?
[09:01] <bll3r87> im not sure why it would slow down after an update
[09:01] <bll3r87> sorry
[09:01] <JKOder> but it worked just great befor i did those updates.
[09:01] <bll3r87> yea i dont know why thogh
[09:01] <Silentread> does anyone know what a buffer io error when booting ubunu live/installer means?
[09:01] <JKOder> mabye because i have those modules that i dont need and my pc doesn't have bluetooth or irda ?
[09:01] <saispo> anyone know if ica deb package exists ?
[09:01] <skp> help !! ubuntu dapper nvidia driver installation !!
[09:02] <JKOder> may those modules slow down my pc ?
[09:02] <sysdoc> skp,  see forum
[09:02] <bll3r87> any non needed processes running will slow down your pc
[09:02] <mikefrmnz> Randomly packages are failing to install due to "size mismatch" any ideas?
[09:02] <bll3r87> extra resources, not needed
[09:02] <JKOder> then how can i unload them for good ?
[09:02] <skp> sysdoc I did that ... pls just listen to my argument
[09:02] <azrael0> skp: install linux-restricted-modules for your cpu, then change the driver line in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to nvidia
[09:02] <bll3r87> apt-get remove "file"
[09:03] <Silentread> skp,http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[09:03] <neuro> Does this look ok for installing ubuntu to? (I want the fat32 partition for fileswapping) http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6861/partiesrd2.jpg
[09:03] <sysdoc> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[09:03] <skp> sysdoc, dood I know that
[09:03] <sysdoc> Silentread, drats!
[09:03] <Silentread> sysdoc, heh it happens
[09:03] <sysdoc> Which method dorked on ya?
[09:04] <sysdoc> skp,  listening
[09:04] <nrdb> where do I look for what gets run when the power button gets pressed?
[09:04] <TheKittenEater> alright, I'm back once again. There is no "other" option in GRUB, only Ubuntu. How can I access Windows XP from GRUB
[09:04] <JKOder> and the problems is when i try to unload bluetooth module it say that i used by l2cap
[09:04] <SushiK> does anyone know how a live CD works?
[09:04] <JKOder> if i try to unload l2cap it tells me that it cannot be removed :(
[09:04] <Silentread> sushik, it installs the filesystem into the ram
[09:04] <SushiK> I'm trying to run partition recovery software from a live cd and it doesn't seem to be identifying my HD.
[09:04] <bll3r87> whats linux?
[09:05] <bll3r87> haha j/k!
[09:05] <skp> sysdoc, brb let me give another reading to that page otherwise I must be wasting ur time :D just a min
[09:05] <userundefine> TheKittenEater, in a terminal, type "cat /etc/fstab" and "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst", and then put the output into pastebin
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: well you see...there is this laser that reads the grooves in this plastic cd, converts them to bits and then sends them to a controller chip...........
[09:05] <userundefine> !pastebin
[09:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:05] <TheKittenEater> Thanks userundefine
[09:05] <sysdoc> skp, see ya in a week or two, lol, JK!
[09:05] <Mora> Hello.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: maybe it doesn't have the drivers loaded for your chipset, or it just hadn't mounted it yet.
[09:05] <userundefine> TheKittenEater, after that, post the link to pastebin in here
[09:06] <Silentread> sushik, try this
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> SushiK: dmesg should tell you what it detected.
[09:06] <JKOder> what is so funny ? i am a Linux newbye .. so i need a little help :(
[09:06] <skp> sysdoc /:)
[09:06] <Silentread> sushkk, go into teh terminal and type fdisk -l, is ur hdd deceted?
[09:06] <sysdoc> TheKittenEater, << lol, I love nicks lke that!
[09:06] <sysdoc> too funny
[09:06] <bll3r87> in new @ linux too
[09:06] <bll3r87> only been using it for a month now
[09:06] <SushiK> ahh dang.. i just shut down the system
[09:07] <SushiK> I'm gunna try a different approach
[09:08] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: is your I can give your my grub commands for booting windows, I assume you just resized the widows partition to make room for linux.
[09:08] <JKOder> ok, sadly i see that i wont get an answer here
[09:08] <bll3r87> then beat it
[09:08] <userundefine> !attitude
[09:08] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:08] <bll3r87> google is your friend
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> JKOder: what is the problem?
[09:09] <JKOder> fyrestrtr: after an update my pc is very slow
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> ???
[09:09] <JKOder> fyrestrtr: i noticed that i have some modules that i dint need and i dont know ( i kannot ) unload them
[09:09] <JKOder> modules like bluetooth, irda and my laptop does not have such things
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> JKOder: use 'bum' and remove things from the startup scripts.
[09:10] <JKOder> fyrestrtr: thank you i will try that
[09:10] <TheKittenEater> nrdb, yes thats what i did, if you can get it to me that would be great
[09:10] <tylerdurden> is there a way to remove packages?
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> !info bum
[09:10] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:11] <mikefrmnz> Gxine keeps locking up on the Warning copyright screen when I try to play a DVD - Totem says I dont have the right plugin and Ogle freezes up - any ideas?
[09:11] <userundefine> tylerdurden, you can use synaptic for an easy GUI to remove packages.  System > Administration > Synaptic
[09:11] <JKOder> !info bum
[09:11] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:11] <JKOder> ok
[09:11] <tylerdurden> userundefine, thanks a lot!
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> tylerdurden: there are a lot of ways to remove packages.
[09:11] <JKOder> thank you fyrestrtr!
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> JKOder: next time, have some patience :)
[09:12] <dragon_> wiki
[09:12] <bioticpro> To any xmame users, I need help please, video is only taking up 1/4 size, how do I make it bigger?
[09:13] <JKOder> sorry fyrestrtr but for some people my question seemed funny :(
[09:13] <TheKittenEater> userdefine, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19367
[09:13] <bll3r87> stop being a girl
[09:15] <userundefine> TheKittenEater, OK, grub doesn't have entries for your Windows partition.  You have Windows on the same harddrive as Linux?  Was Windows installed in the first partition on the harddrive?
[09:15] <sysdoc> bll3r87, lol
[09:15] <redmonkey> bll3r87, ?
[09:15] <bll3r87> redmonkey, ?
[09:16] <redmonkey> what if he/she/it is a girl? :)
[09:16] <bll3r87> good point
[09:16] <bll3r87> lol
[09:16] <redmonkey> hehe
[09:16] <TheKittenEater> userundefine, Yes XP is on the same HDD. When I installed Ubuntu I resized the Windows partition for room for Ubuntu
[09:16] <sysdoc> redguy, run!
[09:16] <bll3r87> he got mad cause i asked "whats linux" and he thought i was maken fun of him
[09:16] <bll3r87> so he had to cry about it before he left
[09:16] <sysdoc> rrrrg
[09:17] <sysdoc> redmonkey, run...:)
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: soo, what is linux?
[09:17] <bll3r87> lol
[09:17] <bll3r87> i was only kidding
[09:17] <bll3r87> ive been taken unix in school for the last month
[09:17] <Decadent> does ubuntu support wlan?? if it does how easy is it to be configured
[09:17] <Decadent> ??
[09:17] <bll3r87> and doing some linux adminstration next week
[09:17] <bll3r87> now all i use is linux
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Decadent: depends on your chipset, and how well it is supported.
[09:17] <sysdoc> bll3r87, that explains a lot, lol
[09:17] <Silentread> decadent, yes, depends on the card you are using
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: ooh, now I get it.
[09:18] <Decadent> which card do you suggest??
[09:18] <bll3r87> so i figured i'd just sit here and watch some of the questions that come through
[09:18] <mikefrmnz> What does it mean if your DVDs have sound but no video?
[09:18] <bll3r87> trying to learn as much as i can
[09:19] <Mora> Decadent, Atheros cards have pretty good support.
[09:19] <sysdoc> bll3r87, use only one eye it works better that way
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> mikefrmnz: that you forgot to add some codecs?
[09:19] <Decadent> ok thanks :)
[09:19] <Mora> Also Intel 2200 series cards.
[09:19] <bll3r87> at 12:30 thats comming naturally
[09:19] <bll3r87> lol
[09:19] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone. is it possible to reset the highscores for gnome-games? i didn't find a option in gconf
[09:19] <userundefine> TheKittenEater, OK, what you're going to do is add some lines to /boot/grub/menu.lst telling GRUB that windows exists on the hdd.  First, make a backup if something goes wrong: "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup" -- then append this text (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19368) to the bottom of menu.lst like this in terminal "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> the intel 2200 cards work flawlessly
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[09:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:20] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: I tried puting it in pastbin but it seems to offline at the moment.  if you give me your email address I can email it to you.
[09:20] <sysdoc> bll3r87, pst, your on what the 2nd 6 pack?
[09:20] <sysdoc> lol
[09:20] <TheKittenEater> thanks userundefine, I'll try that now
[09:20] <bll3r87> haha unfortunatly not
[09:20] <bll3r87> school tomorrow :-(
[09:21] <Mora> fyrestrtr, I still remember times when they used /not/ to work okay. Especially with WPA, which is pretty much neccessity nowadays.
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> Decadent: IBM laptops have great linux support all around.
[09:21] <Half-Left> Anyone go any boot speed tweaks?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: use bum
[09:21] <userundefine> Half-Left, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[09:21] <Decadent> i'm not using a laptop but i would like to set up a wlan
[09:21] <Decadent> that's why i asked
[09:21] <Decadent> :)
[09:22] <Fracture> I was getting errors like this in syslog : "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000048" where should I submit a bug report for it ?
[09:22] <Half-Left> thanks :-)
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> kernel.org I would think
[09:22] <skp> sysdoc, can u just tell how to overcome this :: I can install the nvidia drivers but when i reboot it gives me the Error :: Mismatch of Kernel module (u must b knowing abt this one)
[09:22] <mikefrmnz> How do I get Totem to play DVDs
[09:22] <skp> sysdoc, otherwise I will have to pick on the Method 2 and do the whole thing again
[09:23] <Bonez> r0bzilla: did you just hacksaw me?
[09:23] <Mora> skp, go to /lib/modules and remove all instances of nvidia kernel module, then try installing once more.
[09:23] <r0bzilla> Bonez: yes
[09:23] <sobersabre>  /j #wxwidgets
[09:23] <sysdoc> Choose method 2 and just live in relative peace
[09:23] <Bonez> r0bzilla: omg pls stop
[09:23] <r0bzilla> k
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> !dvd > mikefrmnz
[09:23] <Bonez> thx
[09:23] <sysdoc> skp^
[09:23] <Bonez> !repeat > r0bzilla
[09:23] <Bonez> !anyone > r0bby
[09:23] <Bonez> !anyone > r0bzilla
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> skp: read the nvidia wiki entry
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> !askthebot
[09:23] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[09:24] <Bonez> fyrestrtr: rgr soz
[09:24] <SushiK> goodnight guys
[09:24] <sysdoc> l8r
[09:24] <skp> Mora, thanks man will do that
[09:24] <mikefrmnz> how do I choose what video card driver to use - I accidently installed the ATI drivers and now it pops up with errors and boots to shell
[09:24] <Fito> uela
[09:24] <mikefrmnz> is there a gnome setup
[09:25] <Bonez> mikefrmnz: what sort of video card do you have?
[09:25] <mikefrmnz> ATI mobility 7500
[09:25] <drunken-wallaby> is there really no way to reset the highscores in gnome-games?
[09:25] <skp> Mora, :O there are like 3 folders pointing to 3 diff kernel versions ... wat do u want me to delete
[09:25] <Bonez> mikefrmnz: if you want to rescue, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace the ati driver with something like "vga" or "vesa"
[09:25] <sysdoc> mikefrmnz, lspci
[09:25] <Mora> skp,  uname -a will tell you.
[09:25] <Bonez> mikefrmnz: that will give you basic drivers to work with until you can install the proper ones
[09:26] <CmaX> hi folks!
[09:26] <Bonez> r0bzilla: i already asked, pls stop. don't do it again
[09:26] <Bonez> CmaX: hI!
[09:26] <CmaX> Bonez, heya
[09:26] <CmaX> i woke up this morning..
[09:26] <CmaX> started my ubuntu box and BAM! it EXPLODES!!
[09:26] <CmaX> just kidding...
[09:27] <userundefine> that's poor damn timing
[09:27] <sysdoc> skp, method 2... "why suffer just because you know how?"
[09:27] <Bonez> CmaX: lol
[09:27] <skp> Mora ok final lame question ... so I m removing the 2 folders which dont correspond to the kernel wat uname says rite ???
[09:27] <CmaX> but my resolution is down to 800x600... from 1600x1200...
[09:27] <skp> sysdoc thnks :D
[09:27] <Mora> skp,  no
[09:27] <LKC> hey i tried configing my wireless as told using the iwconfig but the scan didnt pick anything up and the light on the side of mmylaptop did not light up like it does when its on (need help)
[09:27] <CmaX> i've had this problem 3 times in the past... totally random, nothing has changed, xorg.conf is still the same...
[09:27] <Dimitrije> I changed /usr/include to 777 permission, but i forgot the default one. Does anyone know?
[09:27] <skp> mora Ok :D then ??
[09:27] <Mora> skp, go to the right folder, look for nvidia.ko module.
[09:27] <CmaX> the only difference is that my monitor is no longer recognized as a Tatung, but rather as a '@@@' in NVIDIA settings...
[09:28] <skp> Mora ... oh ok ...
[09:28] <Mora> find . -name "nvidia*"
[09:28] <mikefrmnz>  - /etc/X11/xorg.conf  says " New File
[09:28] <trogger> what is the name and location of the gui installer for ubuntu, please?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Dimitrije: what tha ... ???? Why would you do something like that?!
[09:28] <userundefine> Dimitrije, drwxr-xr-x  52 root root 4.8K 2006-07-25 02:30 include
[09:28] <CmaX> Does anyone know how to RESTORE and nvidia EDID? if one used the 'Acquire EDID' button before?
[09:28] <nrdb> Does anyone here know what scripts get run when I press the power button?
[09:28] <LKC> i need wireless help can anybody?
[09:29] <Half-Left> brb
[09:29] <skp> Mora yeh found only one instance of nvidia.ko here :: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/
[09:29] <userundefine> !anyone
[09:29] <jn-> the time on this box is messed up, i didnt set it at install, and it's not correct even after using ntpdate... timezone was set right
[09:29] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:29] <Dimitrije> fyrestrtr, i just put some header files in there...
[09:29] <skp> Mora, shall i remove that and reinstall the thing
[09:29] <Mora> skp, yes.
[09:29] <Silentread> LKC, what do u need help with
[09:29] <skp> Mora ok will do that and report back
[09:29] <sysdoc> ubotu, copin a bit of an attitude?
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about copin a bit of an attitude? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:30] <sysdoc> LMAO!
[09:30] <mikefrmnz> - /etc/X11/xorg.conf  says " New File - there in no such DIR as X11
[09:30] <mikefrmnz> haha ignore
[09:30] <mikefrmnz> I forgot about caps
[09:30] <CmaX> can someone please help me with nvidia issues?
[09:30] <userundefine> !anyone > CmaX
[09:31] <Silentread> CmaX, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[09:31] <sysdoc> CmaX, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[09:31] <zugu> !anyone > zugu
[09:31] <sysdoc> lol
[09:31] <Silentread> sysdoc, stop copying me ;)
[09:31] <sysdoc> lol
[09:31] <CmaX> Silentread, sysdoc I've spent the last hour on forums etc... it's not a new problem... i've re-installed dapper 3 times because of it already
[09:32] <sysdoc> Ok one more glass of wine and I'll win one
[09:32] <mikefrmnz> HOW do I save and exit nano?
[09:32] <sysdoc> CmaX, use method 2
[09:32] <Silentread> CmaX, explain your problem
[09:32] <skp> Mora just one more thing ... when I m installing using the package I m giving the argument .... --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules ...  is this fine ??
[09:32] <sysdoc> U ned not be reinstalling
[09:32] <nrdb> mikefrmnz: <ctrl>O to save <ctrl>X to exit
[09:32] <userundefine> mikefrmnz, Ctrl+X
[09:32] <zugu> mikefrmnz > Ctrl+O = save; Ctrl+X =exit
[09:33] <jn-> i could use some help fixing hte time on this system
[09:33] <TheKittenEater> Hey, The highest resolution I can choose from is 1024 x 768. How can I set it higher, say to 1280 x 800?
[09:33] <CmaX> Silentread, woke up this morning... resolution down to 800x600 from 1600x1200... NVIDIA settings doesn't recognize my monitor... it used to be a 'Tatung' now it's '@@@'. Because this has happened before, i saved the Tatung's EDID, but don't know how to restore it
[09:33] <zugu> TheKittenEater > you have to modify your /etc/xorg.conf file
[09:33] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: have you tried ediiting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[09:33] <CmaX> Silentread, i've also tried to set an option in xorg.conf to NOT use the EDID info, but that didn't work either
[09:34] <joel> I'm having issues installing the akamaru dock...
[09:34] <TheKittenEater> I'll try that now
[09:34] <joel> you guys know how?
[09:34] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: did you manage to boot XP?
[09:34] <TheKittenEater> Yes, thank you
[09:34] <userundefine> jn-, use the date command, i.e., date MMDDhhmmYYYY
[09:34] <msgdv> hey I installed apache2, php5, and mySQL... I'm only using the server thing to learn php so I didnt do the LAMP install when I installed it
[09:34] <nrdb> TheKittenEater: good to here bad luck you need it.
[09:34] <mikefrmnz> "Failed to start teh X server (your graphical interface" etc etc etc
[09:35] <msgdv> but when I do localhost and a random php file it asks to download
[09:35] <zugu> msgdv > you have to activate the php module in apache
[09:35] <Nik0> I lost my root password, and im using ubuntu breezy 5.10 with kernel 2.6, any ideas how to change root password without booting with a cd?
[09:35] <msgdv> how do you do that
[09:35] <nrdb> I want to know what scripts get run when I press the power button?
[09:35] <CmaX> Silentread, any ideas?
[09:35] <zugu> msgdv > so that the apache server will pass php files on to php for interpreting
[09:35] <Silentread> CmaX, what was the last thing you did on your computer?
[09:36] <Nik0> I lost my root password, and im using ubuntu breezy 5.10 with kernel 2.6, any ideas how to change root password without booting with a cd?
[09:36] <jn-> userundefine: date -s ???
[09:36] <mikefrmnz> Is there an easy way to select what driver you wish to use in gnome - the xorg.conf has heaps of ATI Properity settings all over it
[09:36] <userundefine> !repeat
[09:36] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:36] <jn-> what would format be after date -s
[09:36] <CmaX> a skype chat... the last installation was some modules for file sharing (automatic install when i tried to share a folder)
[09:36] <nrdb> Nik0: how can you loose what never was?  log in as someone with admin privlages.
[09:36] <userundefine> jn-, what I said.  MMDDhhmmYYYY
[09:36] <CmaX> Silentread, like i said, it's completely random...
[09:37] <Silentread> CmaX, so you didnt install anything or mess around with any settings? hmm
[09:37] <Nik0> nrdb, I used root. I need to know how to change the root password
[09:37] <cyberix> My computer has an OS which uses LVM on a big partition. Is it possible to install Dapper to the same partition? So that it would have its own partition in as viewed by LVM?
[09:37] <Silentread> CmaX, does your monitor company make linux drivers?
[09:37] <CmaX> Silentread, that's right.. nothing funky... 3rd time this has happened
[09:37] <jn-> userundefine: the time is wrong
[09:37] <nrdb> Nik0: there isn't one with ubuntu/kubuntu etc.
[09:37] <Silentread> CmaX, and you just keep reinstalling ubuntu, and then it happens again?
[09:37] <ian> I plan on putting a faster proc into my computer in a few days... Can I just power down, install, and power back up?  Or will I need to re-install Ubuntu?
[09:37] <CmaX> Silentread, no, it's AOpen and recognized as Tatung VM95 on installation
[09:38] <nrdb> Nik0: you use sudo with your password.
[09:38] <Silentread> CmaX,hmm
[09:38] <Nik0> nrdb, yes there is. I set one.
[09:38] <CmaX> Silentread, after a week or a few days etc..
[09:38] <Nik0> nrdb, I still dont have another account with admin privledges...
[09:38] <CmaX> been running it fine for the last week and a half or so
[09:38] <jn-> date: invalid date '080112372006'
[09:38] <Nik0> I just need to know what paraments to add to the boot line.
[09:39] <TheKittenEater> How can I edit and save the etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[09:39] <TheKittenEater> Sorry for the newbie question
[09:39] <mikefrmnz> My  xorg.conf has heaps of "SECTION "Device" entries for the ATI - do I just delete them all????
[09:39] <CmaX> Silentread, i've got a dual screen setup with 19" as primary and 17" as secondary...
[09:39] <apeman2020> does anyone know how to get drivers for the canon ipixma 3000?
[09:39] <Silentread> CmaX, hmmm, have you tried any other linux distros?, if so, have they given you the same problem?
[09:39] <nrdb> Nik0: try "sudo su -" and give it your password
[09:39] <CmaX> i have another 17" samsung.. i'm going to shutdown, plug it in and see if it helps t all
[09:39] <CmaX> Silentread, not on this particular machine and not with dual screen, no
[09:39] <lanhlung> I followed the " How to install alternate boot splash screen" from ubuntu guide. How do I select the minimalistic splash screen?
[09:39] <Nik0> nrdb, I need to login....
[09:39] <zugu> TheKittenEater > in a terminal, write: sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[09:40] <Silentread> CmaX, cause it definately sounds like a hardware problem, either that or an nvidia driver bug
[09:40] <TheKittenEater> Thanks zugu
[09:40] <nrdb> Nik0: you can't log in at all?
[09:40] <jn-> sudo visudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <jn-> try that
[09:40] <CmaX> Silentread, considering the randomness, i'd put money on it being a bug... but then, AOpen monitors aren't the most stable in the world...
[09:40] <Nik0> nrdb, exactly. I need the password.
[09:40] <Nik0> And I lost it, how do I change it?
[09:41] <jn-> err im mistaken
[09:41] <CmaX> Silentread, I DID save the EDID info for the Tatung... any way to use it?
[09:41] <Gumby> !acc
[09:41] <Silentread> CmaX, hmmm, im not sure
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about acc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:41] <Gumby> !m4a
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about m4a - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:41] <nrdb> Nik0: try reboot and use the "recovery mode" that should put you into a single user root account.
[09:41] <zugu> TheKittenEater > then under the look for the [Subsection "Display"]  section that has your screen depth under it
[09:41] <Silentread> CmaX, give me a second to look up your monitor, could I have the model number?
[09:42] <nrdb> Nik0: create a new user and add to the admin group
[09:42] <Nik0> nrdb, cheers. Gonna try it out.
[09:42] <Gumby> anyone here know if ubuntu's latest amarok supports aac or m4a formats?
[09:42] <CmaX> AOpen A90E (methinks, i can double check quick)
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats
[09:42] <Gumby> aac/m4a
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <zugu> TheKittenEater > then where it says "Modes" add your desired resolution
[09:42] <ryantrip> i need help. i am unable to connect to any wireless networks. i used KNetworkManager, and i was able to see networks nearby, but they showed up with one bar, and when i tried to connect, it only got to "Configuring device". how can i get it to work?
[09:42] <joel> does anyone know how to install the akamaru dock?
[09:42] <CmaX> Silentread, AOpen A90E it is
[09:43] <Silentread> CmaX, thanks, give me a second
[09:43] <zugu> TheKittenEater > save, close and restart GNOME (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace);
[09:43] <icha> hai
[09:43] <mikefrmnz> Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Undefined device "ATI technologies INC Radeon Mobility M7 LW referenced by screen default screen
[09:43] <Nik0> nrdb, booting in recovery didnt work.
[09:44] <Nik0> still promts me for a password
[09:44] <jn-> got it :)
[09:44] <TheKittenEater> thanks zugu
[09:44] <Silentread> CmaX, after looking for other cases with your monitor, I can't find anything to think its the monitor, therefore it has to just be a dual display issue with the nvidia driver
[09:44] <jn-> does vlc need something to play wmv correctly?
[09:44] <rippon> no
[09:44] <Silentread> CmaX, are you using the ubuntu version of the nvidia driver or the official nvidia one?
[09:45] <Nik0> I lost my root password, and im using ubuntu breezy 5.10 with kernel 2.6, any ideas how to change root password without booting with a cd?
[09:45] <rippon> It has always worked fine
[09:45] <rippon> jn
[09:45] <CmaX> Silentread, using the nvidia proprietary one
[09:45] <jn-> not for me
[09:45] <jn-> they quit
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: did you manually set a root password?
[09:45] <rippon> VLC can do it
[09:45] <jn-> mm ok
[09:45] <CmaX> rippon, doesn't do it for me
[09:45] <Silentread> CmaX, the only thing I could think of is to try the other one
[09:45] <jn-> the ones i have crash
[09:45] <rippon> It works for me
[09:45] <Silentread> CmaX, otehr then that Im stumped
[09:45] <rippon> I swear
[09:45] <rippon> let me verify
[09:45] <Silentread> CmaX, srry :(
[09:45] <jn-> how about mplayer?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> jn-: installed the codecs?
[09:46] <CmaX> Silentread, cool... giving it a go now... i REALLY don't want to re-install again... this happens everytime just after i've downloaded and installed everything just the way i want it
[09:46] <jn-> fyrestrtr: for wmv?
[09:46] <jn-> im not sure
[09:46] <jn-> xvid plays fine
[09:46] <jn-> same with mpeg
[09:46] <Nik0> fyrestrtr, Yes
[09:46] <jn-> i get picture and sound in wmv but it crashes or gets blocky
[09:46] <rippon> ahh
[09:47] <rippon> ?
[09:47] <Nik0> fyrestrtr, any ideas of how ot get it back ?
[09:47] <nrdb> Nik0: it didn't ask me for one.
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: hrmm ... boot into single user mode.
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> jn-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:47] <rippon> Sorry JN, I got confused with WMA, I thought you were talking about WMA not WMV.  Ill check anyway though.
[09:48] <Nik0> fyrestrtr, how to do it?
[09:49] <TheKittenEater> zugu, the resolution still doesnt show up
[09:50] <nrdb> Nik0: do you have the ubuntu LiveCD there?
[09:50] <mikefrmnz> How DO I fix "Fatal server error : No screens found"
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: okay, boot the machine. When the grub menu comes up, hit the letter e for edit
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> then pick the line that starts with 'kernel' and hit e again
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> then go to the end of the line, and add 'single'
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> so it something like this ... kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> and then add single to it
[09:53] <Nik0> yeah
[09:53] <Nik0> in the end?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> or, boot into the recovery mode, iirc that is the single user mode.
[09:53] <eternalswd> I'm trying to run firestarter from the terminal using gksudo and it's not connecting to X, the feedback is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19369
[09:53] <sam__> hello
[09:53] <Nik0> ok, after adding single, what to do?
[09:53] <TheKittenEater> How do I go about adding another resolution?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> hit b to boot
[09:53] <Nik0> yeah
[09:53] <Nik0> booted
[09:53] <Nik0> now what?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> okay after adding single, hit enter, then hit b
[09:54] <Nik0> done, booting now
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> now type passwd to set your root password.
[09:54] <Nik0> let me try, brb
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> and don't freakin' forget it this time.
[09:54] <Half-Left> gah, 35 seconds to login screen
[09:54] <Nik0> fyrestrtr, nope not owrkin
[09:54] <Nik0> still asking for password
[09:54] <Nik0> I did this, quieit splash something, added single after it
[09:54] <Nik0> then booted.
[09:55] <Nik0> I choosed kernel 2.6 with the line "-smp" init
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> what was the something?
[09:55] <Nik0> queit splash, something familiar to htat.
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> quiet splash [something]  single ?
[09:55] <MickJack> Will Ubuntu's popularity fade eventually?
[09:55] <Nik0> no
[09:55] <Nik0> there was nothing after that
[09:55] <Nik0> just queit splash single <- that is it atm
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: you sure you booted the right one?
[09:56] <Half-Left> MickJack, I see no reason why it should not
[09:56] <nrdb> Nik0: do you have the ubuntu LiveCD there?
[09:56] <MickJack> so you mean it will fade?
[09:56] <blinker> yeah. everyone knows popularity lasts forever
[09:56] <blinker> =p
[09:56] <Nik0> no
[09:56] <Nik0> I dont havea cd
[09:56] <MickJack> 0.o
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> just ask the backstreet boys
[09:56] <Nik0> fyrestrtr, ok look
[09:56] <MickJack> hey nik9 brutha
[09:57] <sassy_galz> hi
[09:57] <Nik0> fyrestrtr, I choosed the kernel one, then it said "queit splash" I added single after that.
[09:57] <MickJack> Linux is underrated
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: then you hit enter, and hit b
[09:57] <Nik0> yeah
[09:57] <Nik0> I did that.
[09:57] <Half-Left> MickJack, sorry, I see no reason that it should fade
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> and it still asked you for the password?
[09:57] <MickJack> ok.
[09:57] <Nik0> yes fyrestrtr
[09:57] <Half-Left> MickJack, Linux gets better and better so
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: you did something wrong then.
[09:57] <MickJack> Why are the masses not using linux? it's the best thing since sliced bread
[09:57] <Nik0> after pressing esc on boot, I choosed the one with -smp after it.
[09:58] <Nik0> the first one, on top.
[09:58] <Sconk> is there a way to boot directly to windows from ubuntu?
[09:58] <MickJack> it's the quiet revolution
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: do you have a recovery mode kernel?
[09:58] <ailean> Well, I'm still having problems getting videos synchronised
[09:58] <Nik0> above recovery, then 'e' -> then kernel one 'e'.
[09:58] <Nik0> yes fyrestrtr,
[09:58] <Nik0> one is recovery
[09:58] <ailean> MickJack, and it's still harder to use
[09:58] <stoned> I just installed ubuntu
[09:58] <Half-Left> MickJack, well, Linux dont have OEM support
[09:58] <rixth> How do I show ownership details via the command line?
[09:58] <MickJack> Remember these words : I'n a years time your nane will be logging on to root!
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: and the recovery mode also asks you for a password?
[09:58] <RvGaTe> stoned, ?
[09:58] <stoned> yeah
[09:58] <stoned> I know
[09:58] <MickJack> nana*
[09:58] <eternalswd> Sconk, google VMware, not sure on specifics or anything
[09:58] <stoned> :/
[09:58] <J4t> actually, ubuntu comes with OEM-mode installation
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> rixth: ls -l somefile
[09:58] <Nik0> yes fyrestrtr
[09:58] <rixth> thanks.
[09:59] <ailean> MickJack, people have been saying that for years :)
[09:59] <Nik0> I didnt add aynthing to the recovery line though.
[09:59] <RvGaTe> stoned, the stoned from #debian ?
[09:59] <stoned> RvGaTe: hows it going
[09:59] <Sconk> eternalswd i have dual boot and like to get in to windows when i remote my laptop whit ssh
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: then you are fubar -- find a livecd and boot from it to recover your password.
[09:59] <MickJack> ailean: dreams are free brutha.
[09:59] <RvGaTe> stoned, doing fine, currently a work (doing SHIT) :P
[09:59] <Half-Left> J4t, yer but who users it :p
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Sconk: you have to reboot the machine for that.
[09:59] <ailean> MickJack, i hope your dream comes true :)
[09:59] <nrdb> Nik0: if you have a LiveCD there it might be possible to remove the root password and get your system going again.
[09:59] <MickJack> You smoka the green leaf my brutha?
[09:59] <J4t> Half-Left: that laptop company i cant remember the name of
[09:59] <stoned> yes
[09:59] <Sconk> yes. i understand that..
[10:00] <Sconk> thats way i write boot to windows..
[10:00] <Nik0> no nrdb, for the third time
[10:00] <stoned> !nvidia
[10:00] <ailean> MickJack, not so much any more
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Sconk: but you want it to boot into windows by default, and not ubuntu?
[10:00] <Nik0> I dont have one
[10:00] <nrdb> Nik0: I didn't see the other responses sorry.
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: you need to get a hold of one.
[10:00] <MickJack> Linux will be the revolution of the stoned ppl.
[10:00] <stoned>                                   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <Nik0> theres something else to add in the boot line
[10:00] <stoned> argh
[10:00] <Nik0> likt mount -o something familiar tothat.
[10:01] <Nicholas> Hi guys !! Anybody having problems with DHCP dishing out IP's to Ubuntu Distributions ??
[10:01] <Sconk> fyrestrtr  no default linux budt i like to sometimes go to windows whitout whating on the boot loader
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: no, that's not a boot command.
[10:01] <Madpilot> MickJack, could you take the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[10:01] <MickJack> ok
[10:01] <ailean> hehe
[10:01] <Nik0> should I add single to t he recovery line too ?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Sconk: there are ways to do that, but I don't recommend them.
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Nik0: it should already be there.
[10:02] <Davo_Dinkum> nicholas: no problems here with my Linksys WRT54GP2
[10:02] <eternalswd> I'm trying to run firestarter from the terminal using gksudo and it's not connecting to X, the feedback is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19369
[10:03] <userundefine> blinker, you can get a complementary one with your purchase of microsoft windows.
[10:03] <blinker> why would i purchase a headache when i can get them for free?
[10:03] <MickJack> is linux viable given the amount of distros out there...?
[10:04] <blinker> MickJack: viable for what?
[10:04] <Davo_Dinkum> mickjack: definately
[10:04] <J4t> MickJack: doing a science fair study? :)
[10:04] <gavinbaker> has anyone sucessfully installed Democracy Player under Dapper? (if so, want to help me? :)
[10:04] <Madpilot> MickJack, a high number of distros make Linux more viable, not less
[10:04] <dnkidjit> MickJack: that diversity is a healthy sign
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> writing an article?
[10:04] <MickJack> ok
[10:04] <MickJack> good.
[10:05] <MickJack> i love ubuntu and linux, it better take out windows/
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> MickJack: it won't :)
[10:05] <userundefine> gavinbaker, I haven't installed it, but there's a howto on it -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203436&highlight=democracy+player
[10:05] <Half-Left> MickJack, Linux is already successful in many areas
[10:05] <eternalswd> I guess my first problem is that running Shields Up from www.grc.com showed that port 0 is accepting TCP connections.  How do I stop this without firestarter?
[10:06] <blinker> eternalswd: are you using a linksys router?
[10:06] <gavinbaker> userundefine: thanks very much, i didn't spot this with a quick google... i've give it a shot
[10:06] <MickJack> Linux is fun, it reminds me of the good ol days of dos....so much to explore, it's bit like having sex with a new woman for the first time...
[10:06] <Half-Left> MickJack, They use it for CG in films so
[10:06] <eternalswd> blinker, it's a netgear
[10:07] <blinker> don't know if netgear supports it, but go in and look at port forwarding options
[10:07] <Davo_Dinkum> nice comparison, mickjack
[10:07] <blinker> i'd say block it entirely, but i honestly don't know what uses it
[10:07] <shinobi2> the spell check in open office is not working.   do i need to import a dictionary or something?
[10:08] <stoned> I did what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto said about nvidia, installed nvidia-glx and typed nvidia-glx-config enable and when I try to startx it crashes saying nvidia kernel module is not loaded.  I tried to modprobe nvidia but that said module not found.  What do I need to do here?
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> shinobi2: yeah, aspell
[10:08] <stoned> I am using dapper btw
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> stoned: did you previously install nvidia binary drivers?
[10:08] <stoned> no
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> stoned: from nvidia.com?
[10:09] <stoned> I'm a debian user, I am used to using module-assistant to compile the module.  I don't know how ubuntu has setup its nvidia packaging
[10:09] <shinobi2> the calendar, 'cal' command does not highlight today's date, anyone know how to fix that?
[10:10] <stoned> any help?
[10:12] <RvGaTe> stoned, yeah, hold on
[10:12] <shinobi2> how do i get rid of sudo?  i want a normal root
[10:12] <eternalswd> blinker, the weird thing is it's port 0, so the router can't forward it, which begs the question is it my linux box that has a port 0 connection or my parent's windows box?
[10:12] <Madpilot> shinobi2, try 'man cal' - there are a bunch of options to cal, I know
[10:12] <danf_1979> sudo passwd root
[10:12] <Davo_Dinkum> cya
[10:12] <danf_1979> and set the root password
[10:12] <danf_1979> then use su
[10:12] <eternalswd> is there a way to check port logs?
[10:12] <shinobi2> danf_1979, thx
[10:13] <shinobi2> Madpilot, i checked man cal, found nothing. this page is very short
[10:13] <JoshX> http://www.townsville.nl/~joshx/crash.jpg <--- this is a fresh install of 6.06-Server in a software raid-1 config...
[10:14] <JoshX> what happened there?
[10:14] <dnkidjit> eternalswd: port logs? i am not sure such logs exist. you can setup a firewall (iptables) to monitor / log activity to the ports though
[10:14] <JoshX> can anyone help me?
[10:14] <dnkidjit> eternalswd: but i am out of it. not sure i understand you
[10:14] <Madpilot> shinobi2, hmm, not sure what to suggest, then - sorry.
[10:14] <Nicholas> Hi Guys !! my ubuntu pc's are not getting IP's from our win2k3 Dhcp server but it does work if i enter a static IP,any suggestions ??
[10:14] <acetech747> does anyone know how to prevent ubuntu from loading the PCMCIA at boot.... I have webmin and it is showing that it does not call on this
[10:14] <ailean> Can compiz-xgl be installed by the repos now??
[10:15] <msgdv> how do I get php to work with apache
[10:15] <eternalswd> okay, how do I set up iptables to give me a log?
[10:15] <Madpilot> !apache > msgdv
[10:15] <msgdv> when I do localhost/testphp.php it just downloads it
[10:15] <RvGaTe> stoned, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:15] <dnkidjit> eternalswd: believe it or not, they write books on it. i doubt you can learn in an irc channel  :(
[10:16] <msgdv> I tried everything there
[10:16] <TheKittenEater> How do I install programs with Ubuntu?
[10:16] <mikefrmnz> Man I love this Ubuntu - I always have tiny issues but once they are fixed and it all just works perfect and it feels like you have earned it
[10:16] <shinobi2> TheKittenEater, apt-get
[10:16] <cpk2> apt-get
[10:16] <TheKittenEater> Thanks
[10:16] <msgdv> how long should apache2 take to restart
[10:16] <cpk2> about 3 seconds i would say
[10:17] <zsh> !synaptic > TheKittenEater
[10:17] <msgdv> hrm it just sits there saying its not on
[10:17] <MickJack> as the wise bart simpson said: Eat my shorts
[10:17] <msgdv> but localhost ans 127.0.0.1 works
[10:17] <cpk2> then it obviously wont restart
[10:17] <cpk2> just start it then
[10:17] <msgdv> whats the argument for start
[10:18] <msgdv> or command thing
[10:18] <cpk2> sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[10:18] <Madpilot> msgdv, see the PM the bot sent you
[10:18] <zugu> mikefrmnz > it surely does :)
[10:18] <cpk2> or apache2 if you are using apache2
[10:18] <msgdv> I saw but apache2 wont restart
[10:18] <cpk2> start not restart
[10:18] <dnkidjit> eternalswd: you basically have to use the iptables command to add logging rules for the ports you are interested in. its not an easy command to use. a working iptables firewall consist of a script of iptables commands that sets up the rules that are used
[10:19] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I export mp3s with audacity?
[10:22] <abrr> hi
[10:22] <abrr> i was change from Gnome to KDE, & now i can't open the terminal
[10:22] <abrr> any ideas?
[10:23] <stoned> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[10:23] <stoned> I get this error now when trying to startx
[10:23] <stoned> x11-common is already installed
[10:24] <blinker> !easyubuntu
[10:24] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:24] <mikefrmnz> I made a Dir called /mnt/enc but its owned by root so I cannot access it - what is the chmod parameters needed to make it all user accessible
[10:25] <nrdb> Nik0: did you sort out your problem?
[10:25] <Dimitrije> Ubuntu 5.10 comes with firefox 1.0.7 if i can see good. Is there any way of updating it with apt-get without removing it?
[10:25] <Madpilot> Dimitrije, upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06
[10:26] <Dimitrije> Ok :)
[10:26] <stoned> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy <-- this is the error I get when doing 'startx' on dapper.  however, typing X lets me into X.  Any help ?
[10:29] <Lynoure> Dimitrije: Sorry, confusion. Update to what, without removing what? Upgrading to dapper would remove your firefox 1.0.7 and replace it with 1.5
[10:30] <|Jock|> hi, anyone got some time to helpl a linux noob?
[10:30] <userundefine> !anyone > |Jock|
[10:30] <airzer0> hi
[10:30] <Lynoure> |Jock|: Only if they ask questions :)
[10:30] <|Jock|> Ok, ive knackered my xorg and i need to fix it
[10:31] <|Jock|> but i cant change to the /x11 directory
[10:31] <userundefine> cd /etc/X11
[10:31] <airzer0> what is the diference between brezzy and dapper?>
[10:31] <|Jock|> it says it doest exist when i do that but if I ls it is there
[10:32] <Dimitrije> Lynoure, i have 56k modem so i don't think i will update trough internet (if that is possible). I will just get Drapper Drake dvd and reinstall...
[10:32] <Dimitrije> I installed 5.10 just to see if Ubuntu is worth of trying, and it damn is :D
[10:32] <stoned> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy <-- this is the error I get when doing 'startx' on dapper.  however, typing X lets me into X.  Any help ?
[10:33] <root> hi, I got a sudden problem after reboot
[10:33] <Lynoure> Dimitrije: :)
[10:33] <airzer0> is this the ubuntu room?>
[10:33] <Madpilot> airzer0, it is
[10:33] <Dimitrije> Yes lol.
[10:33] <root> I was configuring my wlan driver and then I decided to reboot
[10:34] <commctrl> root, do NOT IRC as root...
[10:34] <root> then at reboot it wouldn't boot, at mounting root it failed
[10:34] <airzer0> ok well how do i install streantuner so it will record?>
[10:34] <pyalot> dang mac irc client
[10:34] <blinker> <expletively deleted>
[10:35] <blinker> ok, anyone know how to fix broken packages?
[10:35] <airzer0> i dont
[10:35] <airzer0> i need help with streamtuner
[10:35] <pyalot> anyway, now when I try to boot my ubuntu it fails at mounting root, "/dev/hda1 no such device" and later "failed to connect tty, job thingy down"
[10:36] <pyalot> it's rather odd, since one reboot before it was all working without a problem.
[10:36] <|Jock|> If i cd /etc/x11 i get the error "No such file or directory"  the directory is there how do i access it?
[10:37] <pyalot> anybody an idea what I can try?
[10:37] <blinker> |Jock|: check the caps on the spelling
[10:37] <skp> Mora dood I tried deleting the nvidia.ko module from /lib/modules/.../ and reinstalled it !! I m giving a command line arg "--x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules" which I read here -> http://tuxedup.wordpress.com/2006/06/03/debian-etch-testing-xorg-70-problems/ wat do u say ?? do i need that or not
[10:37] <keta> .bash_profile is read on a *dm (desktop manager) login and .bashrc for every terminal I open, right?
[10:37] <commctrl> keta, .bash_profile is probably read every time bash is run
[10:37] <tylerdurden> can u apt-get fvwm?
[10:38] <|Jock|> blinker:  DOH!
[10:38] <|Jock|> ty
[10:38] <dj_> somebody here?
[10:38] <blinker> |Jock|: np
[10:38] <airzer0> sup
[10:38] <blinker> i'm still learnin *nix myself, so its fresh in memory, lol
[10:38] <dj_> who know how to install goahead
[10:39] <blinker> not me, but apparently i'm good at breaking packages...
[10:39] <Lynoure> pyalot: Are you booting from /dev/hda? Because if not, my first guess would be a detached hard drive
[10:39] <blinker> =p
[10:39] <airzer0> how do i install n00b 4 attack of the niggers
[10:39] <dj_> who know how to install goahead??i want to ask some questions.thanks
[10:39] <pyalot> Lynoure: I'm booting from /dev/hda1
[10:39] <pyalot> it mounted /boot from there
[10:40] <pyalot> first sign of problem reads:
[10:40] <pyalot> "mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device"
[10:40] <pyalot> then all related mount problems
[10:40] <keta> commctrl: just checked man bash, bash_profile is read on shell ogin, .bashrc is per-interactive-shell startup file
[10:41] <pyalot> and finally "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[10:41] <pyalot> same thing in save mode
[10:41] <keta> s/ogin/lgin
[10:41] <Gorlist> Morning
[10:41] <zsh> airzero, attack of the niggers ??????
[10:41] <mikefrmnz> How Do I browse a folder as root ????
[10:41] <airzer0> hi
[10:41] <commctrl> !language
[10:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:41] <Gorlist> Just need to ask a couple of questions on the Grub loader
[10:41] <airzer0> sry bout that
[10:42] <commctrl> mikefrmnz, sudo nautilus
[10:42] <airzer0> bout it bout it
[10:42] <Gorlist> Im trying to reinstall the Grub over my windows installation - have two harddrives, primary as XP, secondary Ubuntu
[10:42] <tylerdurden> i am trying to apt-get a package and it says its not found, yet on the forum it tells me to type exactly what im typing... am i missing something?
[10:43] <Gorlist> ive just reformated and reinstalled XP on my primary so ive lost the grub loader
[10:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Gorlist about grub
[10:43] <Gorlist> i know about that :)
[10:43] <pyalot> i'm a bit at the end of my rope. I consider just reinstalling ubuntu, but then I loose all the stuff I configured
[10:43] <Gorlist> ive downloaded the Live CD and following the instructions according to the docs
[10:43] <Lynoure> pyalot: If you boot with live disk, can you access the partition normally?
[10:43] <Madpilot> Gorlist, check the PM the bot just sent you - there should be a 'fixing grub after XP reinstall' URL
[10:43] <pyalot> hell I consider going back to windows simply because it sits bootable on the other harddisk and when it doesn't work I know how to rescue my data.
[10:43] <Gorlist> the problem I have is I don't know what to do in regards to root(hd0,6) commands
[10:43] <Madpilot> tylerdurden, what're you trying to apt-get?
[10:44] <tylerdurden> fvwm
[10:44] <zsh> this is going to sound silly, but how do i access a floppy disk in ubuntu
[10:44] <Madpilot> !info fvwm
[10:44] <ubotu> fvwm: F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.14-6 (dapper), package size 2913 kB, installed size 6448 kB
[10:44] <Gorlist> how do I know what numbers to use in the hd command
[10:44] <pyalot> Lynoure: will try, just a sec
[10:44] <Lynoure> pyalot: you could perhaps run e.g. fsck from livecd, and if needed get your data backed up.
[10:44] <Madpilot> tylerdurden, do you have Universe repo installed?
[10:44] <Gorlist> for Hardrive number and partition ?
[10:44] <tylerdurden> no :/
[10:44] <Gorlist> on ubuntu disk manager
[10:44] <tylerdurden> i have a lot of reading to do... this is my first day with ubuntu
[10:45] <Madpilot> tylerdurden, start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[10:45] <tylerdurden> thanks Madpilot
[10:45] <Gorlist> first drive is hda1, partition 1, second drive is hdb1 with partition 1 & swap
[10:45] <keta> Gorlist: hd0 is the primary disk (hda/sd)
[10:45] <airzer0> im'a a "D" boy
[10:45] <Gorlist> hda
[10:46] <Gorlist> so that is hd0?
[10:46] <Gorlist> right, and for the partition?
[10:47] <keta> Gorlist: hd0,0 is like hda1
[10:47] <pyalot> Lynoure: it's mainly my xorg.conf, a few files from my home and my nidswrapper driver I want to recover.
[10:47] <seagulltheme> hey, i need to resize the partition that ubuntu is running on, can someone explain how i would do this?
[10:47] <Gorlist> so I should use root(hd0,0) to redo the grub on primary
[10:47] <Gorlist> ?
[10:47] <airzer0> ?
[10:47] <airzer0> ?
[10:47] <airzer0> ?
[10:47] <airzer0> ?
[10:48] <Gorlist> (sorry just want to make sure I get this right!)
[10:48] <zsh> can i use a dos formatted diskette on ubuntu
[10:48] <pyalot> Lynoure: ok, I've booted the live cd
[10:48] <keta> Gorlist: for windows, yes, as you said windows is on the first disk
[10:48] <wthww> ok, i enabled NFS in shared folders and shared a folder, why can my other machine see it? (they are both ubuntu) and both have nfs
[10:48] <Gorlist> right thanks Keta,
[10:48] <Gorlist> will give it go :)
[10:48] <commctrl> zsh, yes
[10:49] <airzer0> sry
[10:49] <Gorlist> comes up with: Selected Disk does not exsist
[10:49] <Gorlist> should I try hd1,0 ?
[10:49] <zsh> commctrl, how? i've tried accessing it through filesystem/dev/ but nothing hapens
[10:49] <zsh> *happens
[10:50] <commctrl> zsh,  you have to mount it
[10:50] <zsh> commctrl, i tried that too, i waited for a while but nothing happened
[10:51] <pyalot> Lynoure: ya I could mount hda1, now what's that command I should try? fschk?
[10:51] <Gorlist> Comes up (using hd0,0) that the hard drive doesn't exist - should I try root(hd1,0) or hd1,1
[10:51] <airzer0> i am ugly, but why do you keep calling me a troll
[10:51] <Lynoure> pyalot: fsch /dev/hda1
[10:51] <airzer0> that hurts my feelings
[10:51] <keta> Gorlist: check /boot/grub/devices.map and see how your disks are mapped
[10:52] <Lynoure> pyalot: oops, typo: fsck
[10:52] <zsh> airzer0, stop typing stuff that doesnt make sense
[10:52] <andrew> ubuntu ftw mirite guyz
[10:52] <airzer0> oops sry :(
[10:52] <Gorlist> sorry how do I find the file?
[10:52] <keta> Gorlist: you can edit and map hd devices as you wish
[10:52] <pyalot> Lynoure: says /dev/hda1: clean
[10:53] <mikefrmnz> Can someone tell me the alternatives for "@echo off"  and "echo" in the command shell - im writing a script
[10:53] <_divan_> hello everybody
[10:53] <andrew> hey sup
[10:53] <Lynoure> pyalot: that didn't take long. The partition is tiny?
[10:53] <andrew> sudo rm -rf /
[10:53] <keta> Gorlist: as I said, it's in /boot/grub/devices.map :)
[10:53] <pyalot> Lynoure: hm, not really
[10:54] <keta> Gorlist: as windows would be somedriveletter:\boot\grub\devices.map
[10:54] <_divan_> Did anyone try to use Easy MP3 Player with Ubuntu?
[10:54] <Gorlist> no such file
[10:54] <andrew> everybody, use Amarok! :P
[10:54] <Gorlist> im still relatively new to linux
[10:54] <andrew> sadface
[10:54] <keta> Gorlist: you are on ubuntu live now, right?
[10:54] <Gorlist> yes
[10:55] <_divan_> andrew, i meant Easy MP3 device not a software
[10:55] <Nilvio> is there enyone whoo know all about wow ?
[10:55] <keta> Gorlist: open a terminal and do sudo -s to get a # (root) prompt
[10:55] <pyalot> Lynoure: I think it misses some parameters to say it to check right now
[10:55] <Madpilot> andrew, if you give random bd advice (like rm -rf /) here, you will be banned. Last & only warning.
[10:55] <andrew> then type: rm -rf /
[10:55] <Gorlist> right got it
[10:56] <airzer0> hi
[10:56] <Gorlist> at the root prompt
[10:56] <keta> Gorlist: ok, type mount, without parameters
[10:56] <Lynoure> pyalot: man fsck  could help, but most often to command I gave you is enough
[10:57] <Gorlist> right, have an output
[10:57] <keta> Gorlist: /dev/hd* mounts are the interesting bits
[10:57] <Gorlist> at the bottom (last line) /dev/hda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[10:57] <keta> Gorlist: good
[10:58] <keta> Gorlist: does linux disk is secondary master o slave?
[10:58] <pyalot> Lynoure: e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005), /dev/hda1: clean, 132417/2452240 files, 1071234/5120710 blocks (check in 5 mounts)
[10:58] <Gorlist> pass, can't remember (I would have thought slave)
[10:58] <pyalot> Lynoure: completes in an eyeblink
[10:59] <keta> Gorlist: ok, let's try, mkdir /tmp/hdb
[10:59] <Gorlist> right done the command
[11:00] <keta> Gorlist: then mount -o rw /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb
[11:00] <warlocky> I lost my root password,I dont have a live CD. How can I boot up the server with some lines in the bootparaments to access the passwd command so I can change? (I cant use recovery mode, as it wont allow me to login as root)
[11:00] <snk00sj_> hi i am looking for a good guide on setting permissions related to an apache webserver
[11:00] <snk00sj_> can anyone point me in the good direction ?
[11:01] <keta> Gorlist: this should mount your linux root partition on /tmp/hdb
[11:01] <Gorlist> keta: right done the command (no errors)
[11:01] <Gorlist> right if I go to that folder using live desktop
[11:01] <Gorlist> i can see directory's/files (which I assume is my linux install)
[11:01] <pyalot> Lynoure: -f option of fsck.ext3
[11:01] <keta> Gorlist: check with mount if you see correctly mounted on, and is ext3 fs type
[11:01] <longwave> snk00sj_: can't get much better than the apache documentation: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/
[11:02] <keta> Gorlist: good
[11:02] <warlocky> I lost my root password,I dont have a live CD. How can I boot up the server with some lines in the bootparaments to access the passwd command so I can change? (I cant use recovery mode, as it wont allow me to login as root)
[11:02] <Gorlist> now I have:    /dev/hda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[11:02] <Gorlist> /dev/hdb1 on /tmp/hdb type ext3 (rw)
[11:02] <Gorlist> so yes
[11:02] <keta> Gorlist: now in the root terminal do chroot /tmp/hdb
[11:02] <_divan_> Does anyone know why copying files to MP3 Flash player freezes? What could be done to solve it?
[11:02] <Gorlist> keta: ok, done
[11:02] <longwave> warlocky: try adding "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel boot parameters, that should drop you straight into a root shell
[11:03] <keta> Gorlist: well we're near the end, do mount -t proc /proc
[11:03] <snk00sj_> longwave : thats the apache configuration documentation
[11:03] <snk00sj_> i am looking for the same thing but more on operating system level
[11:03] <Gorlist> right, done that and its outputted allot of information
[11:04] <Gorlist> mostly usage help
[11:04] <longwave> snk00sj_: i don't understand what you mean by "permissions related to apache", then
[11:04] <warlocky> longwave, hmpfh ok
[11:04] <snk00sj_> like what user do i need to let apache run as, in which groups do i need to add users that want to publish documents under the webtree
[11:04] <chipp> i love my ubunntu/xubuntu setup right about now, its so perfect. but im about to go crazy with one problem i have. I have tried a ati mobile howto but it fails and all i get is a black screen when trying to configure my ati radeon mobile with ubuntu. I have also installed the ati drivers with easy ubuntu without success.. now im out of ideas and dont know what to do.
[11:04] <keta> Gorlist: like /proc alreay mounted?
[11:04] <Lynoure> pyalot: What I didn't think of asking you originally, was what did you do before the reboot?
[11:04] <Gorlist> not that I can seem should I rerun the commander?
[11:05] <Nilvio> enyone wow linux guru here ?
[11:05] <keta> Gorlist: no
[11:05] <longwave> snk00sj_: apache usually runs as nobody, then it depends how you're going to let users publish documents (ftp uploads? webdav? some kind of php/perl/python script?)
[11:05] <snk00sj_> well it's a development environment
[11:05] <longwave> snk00sj_: or if not nobody, then at least a user with very few permissions
[11:06] <keta> Gorlist: now paste me in private the output of cat /boot/grub/devices.map
[11:06] <snk00sj_> so i will run all projects / commands under my user
[11:06] <pyalot> Lynoure: before the reboot I was configuring my wireless driver.
[11:06] <snk00sj_> but anyhow, i want to understand the good/clean way to set up the permissions
[11:06] <longwave> snk00sj_: the general way is to let apache run as whatever user it wants, then make the documents under the web root world-readable so any user (including the one running apache) can read the files
[11:07] <pyalot> Lynoure: I only file I touched was /etc/network/interfaces and using the network dialog of ubuntu.
[11:07] <longwave> snk00sj_: then you can use standard unix users/groups to allow write permissions to the files and folders you want people to upload to
[11:07] <warlocky> longwave, should I add init=/bin/sh on the END of the line? - that kernel bootline has "queit splash" init <- after that?
[11:07] <Lynoure> pyalot: ok, that shouldn't do anything nasty to you.
[11:08] <chipp> have anyone successfully configure a ati radeon mobile with ubuntu?
[11:08] <longwave> warlocky: yes
[11:08] <pyalot> Lynoure: though one boot before that my power-supply burnt out
[11:08] <warlocky> ok longwave
[11:08] <airzer0> do you have beer
[11:08] <Gorlist> keta: right
[11:08] <rippon> WOW
[11:08] <keta> Gorlist: run grub-install
[11:08] <rippon> XGL is smoking awesome
[11:08] <Madpilot> airzer0, if you just want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <rippon> just had to say that
[11:08] <pyalot> Lynoure: I'd have guessed though that the system coughs up at me after the first boot with the new power supply, but instead it failed on me the second boot.
[11:09] <Gorlist> keta: done, listed information etc
[11:09] <Gorlist> or more correctly help & possible commands
[11:09] <ompaul> airzer0, it appears you were asked already to not be offtopic
[11:09] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:09] <snk00sj_> longwave, ok, but now my apache is running as user nobody, and i am editing/adding documents as userX
[11:09] <ompaul> airzer0, one more of those and good bye
[11:09] <keta> Gorlist: my fault, grub-install /dev/hda
[11:09] <Lynoure> pyalot: could still be damage to some hardware, but hard to say.
[11:09] <snk00sj_> what do i need to change to make sure apache can still access them ?
[11:10] <snk00sj_> i change the group of userX to nobody ?
[11:10] <airzer0> ohhhh ok
[11:10] <snk00sj_> or i change the group of apache to userX ?
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <pyalot> Lynoure: yeah but I could mount /dev/hda1
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <warlocky> ....
[11:10] <longwave> snk00sj_: no, just make sure they are world readable (in the drwxrwxrwx permissions, that's the last "r")
[11:10] <airzer0> STFU
[11:10] <warlocky> Haha
[11:10] <longwave> snk00sj_: setting that bit means that any user can read the files, including apache
[11:10] <Lynoure> pyalot: how is/did the forced check go?
[11:10] <Gorlist> right, made some hard drive sounds and outputted some information
[11:10] <chipp> can anyone point me to the right direction on where to get help with ati or dri drivers configuration with a ati radeon mobile?
[11:11] <keta> Gorlist: all went well if you got (hd0)   /dev/hda
[11:11] <pyalot> Lynoure: fiddling with it, the bad block check would freeze for a while, trying to pass the -f option trough fsck now so I can get -C progress
[11:11] <keta> Gorlist: on end
[11:11] <snk00sj_> i do understand the basics of linux permissions, like 777 rwx etc
[11:11] <Gorlist> at the end I got (hd0)   /dev/hda
[11:11] <Gorlist> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[11:12] <snk00sj_> but the thing is just chmodding em to 77 is what i am doing now, it does work
[11:12] <Lynoure> pyalot: One upon a time I was on broken hard disk for a week before I got the replacement... worked, to some degree, but files kept getting corrupted left and right. (I was a poor student back then)
[11:12] <snk00sj_> but is it a clean/solid way ?
[11:12] <longwave> snk00sj_: yes, that's the best way
[11:12] <calloc> Can anyone enlighten me how to get MSSQL support in Ubuntu through Apache/PHP5??
[11:12] <longwave> snk00sj_: you want apache to run as nobody so it has no write permissions to anything, that way if there is a security bug in apache nobody can overwrite your files
[11:12] <keta> Gorlist: ok, you should try to reboot, and grub menu shold appear instead of previous shitty-M$-boot-splash
[11:13] <snk00sj_> ok thanks
[11:13] <Gorlist> right thank you! touch wood
[11:13] <pyalot> Lynoure: I'm not a poor student, though does this kind of thing always has to happen on public holidays when I can't just run to a store and buy some replacement parts.
[11:13] <Hit3k> How do i burn .cue files to DVD?
[11:14] <calloc> Can anyone enlighten me how to get MSSQL support in Ubuntu through Apache/PHP5??
[11:15] <pyalot> Lynoure: fsk -C /dev/hda1 -f -n
[11:16] <longwave> calloc: http://panthar.org/2006/06/15/php-with-mssql-on-ubuntu-606/ seems like a pretty good guide
[11:16] <pyalot> Lynoure: that produces satisfactory output and doesn't attempt repair
[11:16] <chipp> anyone with a ati radeon mobile card that have it working in ubuntu?
[11:16] <keta> Gorlist: did it work?
[11:16] <Gorlist> keta: appeared to have worked, thank you for your time! - you should post your method on the forums or docs at it seems much easier compared to whats recommended.
[11:17] <airzer0> owned
[11:17] <Gorlist> in the end I with the grub install command I could have gone of the diskmanager so it appeared to work
[11:17] <pyalot> Lynoure: only real difference to before is that now it says (1.1% non-contigous) after the files size
[11:17] <longwave> evading a k-line is not recommended, airzer0
[11:17] <Gorlist> much easier, again thanks for the time
[11:17] <pyalot> Lynoure: does this mean anything?
[11:18] <keta> Gorlist: I didn't reinvented the wheel, this method exissted al long time before "diskmanager" tool :D
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <mjr> pyalot, that's just a fragmentation indicator
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <airzer0> STFU
[11:18] <longwave> oh man we got owned there
[11:19] <Gorlist> im sure it did :) but if its not listed in the documentation then for someone like me I wouldn't have found it without help
[11:19] <Ng> whoever that is is a regular troller in here
[11:19] <Madpilot> Ng, yes, and they're evading bans, too... :|
[11:19] <mjr> pyalot, basically if it grows high, your filesystem won't be very efficient, but ext3 is pretty resistant to fragmentation
[11:19] <Ng> so far the nick has been the same each time, so banning that might be worth trying too
[11:19] <Ng> but ultimately there's not much you can do if someone is persistent
[11:19] <Lynoure> pyalot: Nothing really relevant. Could be still someting subtly wrong somewhere. Take backups, just in case. If there is not much of stuff to backup, actually, as windowsy as it sounds, might be faster to reinstall than to try to hunt the specific cause
[11:20] <Hobbsee> how did airzer0 get back in here?
[11:20] <longwave> first time he was from *.aol.com, now her's from *.rr.com
[11:20] <longwave> must have two connections or one is a proxy
[11:21] <snk00sj_> can anyone tell me howto make sure i select a window in compiz when i click on the body content (now i have to click the title bar to select it)
[11:21] <longwave> snk00sj_: i dont know, but little things like that are making me want to switch back from compiz to metacity
[11:22] <pyalot> thing that bothers me about a reinstall is fiddling with that linux-restricted-modules, nvidia drivers and ndiswrapper stuff again. that took each time darn long to fiddle up
[11:22] <longwave> snk00sj_: similarly, there's no keyboard shortcuts that i know of for things like maximise in compiz
[11:22] <snk00sj_> there should be a way to do all those things i am sure
[11:22] <keta> Gorlist: I'm not familiar to ubuntu's documents places, where you'd search a doc for installing grub?
[11:22] <robokop> he guys i want to install a2mp3 but that depends lame
[11:22] <robokop> where could i find lame
[11:23] <pyonpyon> o.o;
[11:23] <pyalot> Lynoure: is there some way to get the configuration from my current hd so I can follow it when I reinstall?
[11:23] <Dimitrije> I am planing to keep Slackware and Ubuntu on my system. What is better to configure grub or lilo?
[11:23] <longwave> robokop: enable the multiverse repository
[11:24] <keta> Dimitrije: grub doesn't need to be rerun each time you install a kernel
[11:24] <longwave> pyalot: if you backup everything in /etc, that will be a good start
[11:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell keta about grub
[11:24] <snk00sj_> longwave, do you want to switch email adresses so we can let eachother know once we found out ?
[11:24] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:24] <keta> Dimitrije: and with grub you can edit kernel parameters on the fly at boot
[11:24] <snk00sj_> because i am sure i will find a way for those keyboard shorcuts to maximise, minimise etc..
[11:24] <ompaul> samuel_,  /join
[11:24] <zsh> ubotu, nvidia > me
[11:24] <longwave> snk00sj_: as far as i know they are not implemented yet, we just have to wait for a newer compiz to come out
[11:24] <MenZa> I read that as Nvidia is greater than me.
[11:24] <zool2005> hi all
[11:25] <Lynoure> pyalot: most of it is in /etc but I don't think there is a way to get a template of it to be used for reinstall. Or I haven't tried.
[11:25] <Dimitrije> Thanks keta.
[11:25] <MenZa> Oh well, no more offtopiccism.
[11:25] <Gorlist> keta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:25] <Bohdi> is there any way I can get my vncserver to start automatically when I boot the computer without having to log into it first?
[11:25] <ompaul> !nvidia > zsh
[11:25] <Gorlist> this is what you get directed to in regards ot the Gub
[11:25] <Gorlist> Gru
[11:25] <zzyber> can someone please comment Mac OSX Tiger VS Ubuntu
[11:25] <zool2005> can I stop gedit from dumping BAK files on my hdd?
[11:25] <Gorlist> Grubv
[11:25] <Gorlist> Grub
[11:25] <snk00sj_> yes ok for the shortcuts indeed
[11:25] <MenZa> zzyber, no.
[11:25] <robokop> longwave: which line should i add to my sources.list
[11:25] <snk00sj_> but i read something that metacity/gnome shortcuts would stay working ?
[11:25] <zsh> ubotu, nvidia > ompaul
[11:26] <longwave> !metaverse
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about metaverse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:26] <snk00sj_> what is the shortcut to maximise in gnome ?
[11:26] <longwave> !repos
[11:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:26] <pyonpyon> dude you guys need a +l 200 #ubuntu2 or something lol
[11:26] <zsh> ompaul, works the same
[11:26] <Madpilot> zool2005, yes - check gedit's options and turn off the option for auto-backup
[11:26] <MenZa> pyonpyon, and restrict help?
[11:26] <zzyber> MenZa<<??? Im thinking of buying a Mac but im thinking........why?
[11:26] <pyalot> zzyber: when Mac OSX tiger goes boom, you send in your machine to apple. When ubuntu goes boom you learn a lot of awfully technical stuff and get to be called linux guru
[11:26] <Lynoure> zzyber: proprietery&cost money vs. open source&free   Other than, which is best for you depends on what  you want.
[11:26] <longwave> pyonpyon: by splitting it the helpers would be one side and the people with problems on the other, probably!
[11:26] <pyonpyon> no have two help channels i mean lol like 3 or four for when one gets too big ^^
[11:26] <ompaul> zsh (a) I don't want it  (B) you can "/msg ubotu keyword" and not have people doing things like that :)
[11:26] <MenZa> zzyber, #ubuntu-offtopi
[11:26] <MenZa> zzyber, #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:26] <pyonpyon> overflow channel~
[11:27] <zzyber> omg
[11:27] <zool2005> Madpilot, thanks. Every time I use it to edit html & css files, the bak files get transferred to the remote server too!
[11:27] <Gorlist> I mean, with the command you got me to use, and the disk manager it would have been far more straight forward than using whats suggested in overwriting the Windows Boot (thats what I believe)
[11:27] <MenZa> zzyber, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:27] <zzyber> okay
[11:27] <zsh> ompaul, ok was just messing wit u :)
[11:28] <protocol1> !xfce
[11:28] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <ompaul> k
[11:28] <frosty_badfish> !gnump3d
[11:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnump3d - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <ph3r> clear
[11:29] <keta> Gorlist: in section Troubleshooting of the link you gave me there's a similar way (some commands are even more correct than ones i gave you)
[11:30] <robokop> longwave: thanks i only had universe and not multiverse
[11:30] <ian> Question: Anyone here install Nessus on Ubuntu?
[11:30] <frosty_badfish> someone familiar with gnump3d? I can only stream the files, the search function doesn't work, no random selection...
[11:30] <Nicholas> Hi Guys !! my ubuntu pc's are not getting IP's from our win2k3 Dhcp server but it does work if i enter a static IP,any suggestions ??.
[11:30] <Cren> is there any way I can get my vncserver to start automatically when I boot the computer without having to log into it first?
[11:31] <chipp> how do i check what kernel version i have?
[11:31] <Pirata> ciao a tutti
[11:31] <longwave> chipp: "uname -r"
[11:31] <westsurf_> hello
[11:31] <snoops> Nicholas umm is the win2k3 dhcp server setup to allow mixed clients?
[11:32] <snoops> or was that only valid for radius and domain controller settings
[11:32] <keta> Pirata: ciao, it's an english channel, not anyone should understand your greeting, if you have to greet, use an international greeting
[11:32] <longwave> Cren: take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[11:32] <longwave> !it
[11:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:33] <westsurf_> quick question - do I have to mount in /media to see a drive icon on the desktop? Or is there other ways to get a drive icon there?
[11:33] <martina> ciao
[11:33] <ian> Question: Anyone familiar with Nessus?
[11:33] <westsurf_> total noob user
[11:33] <ian> !Nessus
[11:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about Nessus - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:34] <martina> hi
[11:34] <Nicholas> Snoops: yes, all other platfroms are getting IP's
[11:34] <pezzz> anyone with a sagem fast800 on dapper
[11:34] <PingunZ> do I need cron when I boot  ?
[11:34] <westsurf_> hello martina
[11:35] <snoops> Nicholas okay, and sorry if you feel insulted by asking this question, but you have set the gateway correctly in ubuntu right?
[11:35] <westsurf_> Italian (I guess)
[11:35] <Nicholas> snoops: no its cool, Yip everything is set correctly under the scope options.
[11:36] <frosty_badfish> Nicholas: what have you set in /etc/network/interfaces for your NIc?
[11:36] <longwave> Nicholas: if you understand how dhcp works at a packet level, try using tcpdump to trace where the packets are (or aren't) going
[11:37] <d-s-d> hi
[11:37] <d-s-d> Is there any useful audio recording program for linux?
[11:37] <martina> where do you come from??
[11:38] <d-s-d> who?
[11:38] <longwave> d-s-d: plenty of them... sound-recorder and audacity to name just two, look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/sound/ for more
[11:38] <westsurf_> dsd: there is actually a whole distro for audio video. Unfortunately the name evades atm
[11:38] <d-s-d> I plugged an analog audio source into my line-in port. I can hear the sound on the lineout but i'm not able to record anything with audacity.
[11:38] <Nicholas> Thanx guys !! ill have to check and then get back to you.
[11:39] <martinez> k pasa neeeeeng????????
[11:39] <martina> WHERE DO YOU COME FROM?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> martinez: join #ubuntu-es
[11:39] <westsurf_> martina: If the question is for me australia
[11:39] <martina> IT'S FOR ALL
[11:40] <martinez> eeeeoooooooo
[11:40] <pyonpyon> lol
[11:40] <martina> I'M ITALIAN
[11:40] <westsurf_> martina: and you?
[11:40] <westsurf_> My oops
[11:40] <westsurf_> where it Italia
[11:41] <westsurf_> quick question - do I have to mount in /media to see a drive icon on the desktop? Or is there other ways to get a drive icon there? (Again)
[11:41] <d-s-d> but, sound-recorder does not record anything.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> martina: join #ubuntu-it
[11:41] <d-s-d> I guess there's nothing coming out of /dev/dsp.
[11:41] <d-s-d> Isn't there any tool, that supports alsa?
[11:41] <d-s-d> martina: i'm swiss, btw.
[11:41] <jbrimble> Whats the difference between Debian and Ubuntu, other than Ubuntu's ease of use?
[11:41] <likwidtek_> hey all
[11:41] <westsurf_> man don't I feel a long way away :)
[11:42] <d-s-d> jbrimble: ubuntu's got much newer packages?
[11:42] <longwave> jbrimble: ubuntu's release schedule is somewhat faster than debian
[11:42] <Half-Left> westsurf_, usually yes
[11:42] <westsurf_> thanks 1/2 left
[11:42] <d-s-d> How can i make the line-in sound come out of the /dev/dsp special file??
[11:42] <Half-Left> jbrimble, gnome is better in ubuntu :-)
[11:42] <martina> DO YOU KNOW IF I CAN HAVE MSN WITH UBUNTU?
[11:42] <westsurf_> So I have to do all the permission stuff to see 'drive' icons rather than when I mount in /home. Damn
[11:43] <jbrimble> martina: try aMSN
[11:43] <westsurf_> Gotta go now but thanks for the answer
[11:43] <d-s-d> martina: caps lock?
[11:43] <Half-Left> martina, try Gaim
[11:43] <likwidtek_> I have a couple questions about making ubuntu behave more like windows when it comes to wireless networking.  Is there a utility that helps you roam from trusted network to trusted network without intervention?
[11:43] <martina> NO
[11:43] <jbrimble> to be honest, I prefer aMSN over Gaim, but Gaim is better if you use more than just MSN.
[11:44] <Half-Left> amsn is just to much and tk UI
[11:44] <d-s-d> i hate myself for living in this world.... /dev/dsp is oss-only, right?
[11:44] <martina> but i can use msn if i have ubuntu?
[11:44] <Half-Left> yes
[11:44] <likwidtek_> martina,  yeah
[11:44] <d-s-d> do i have to load any odd-modules to make that stupid dsp-file serving any audio-data?
[11:44] <jbrimble> Yes, but it's better to use a native MSN alternative
[11:44] <d-s-d> s/odd/oss/
[11:44] <jbrimble> aMSN is almost identical to MSN 7.0
[11:45] <martina> how?
[11:45] <Half-Left> jbrimble, just looks yucky :p
[11:45] <jbrimble> you can get themes for it *rolleyes*
[11:45] <likwidtek_> can anyone relate to my question about wireless networking in ubuntu?  I have to manually put in all my info each time I move from one wireless network to the next.
[11:45] <ipmuz> likwidtek_: you could give waproamd a chance
[11:46] <likwidtek_> ipmuz, have you used it and do you have any luck with it?
[11:46] <jbrimble> The point is, martina.. If you don't know how to install MSN or use WINE, then you have no choice but to use an alternative.
[11:46] <d-s-d> can someone help me please...
[11:46] <d-s-d> ?
[11:46] <d-s-d> that would save my day...
[11:46] <likwidtek_> d-s-d, i dont understand your question
[11:46] <martina> i had windows and msn,now linux ubuntu...my msn adress is still on line
[11:47] <d-s-d> the thing is, i want to record something that is coming from the line-in-port of my soundcard.
[11:47] <likwidtek_> martina yes just download and install aMSN
[11:47] <Macktrucker> hello
[11:47] <martina> the link?
[11:47] <d-s-d> I can hear the input-sound on the line-out and the headphones, so on a hardware level it's working.
[11:47] <jbrimble> isn't it in your package manager?
[11:47] <likwidtek_> martina, www.google.com
[11:47] <Half-Left> why do you need amsn when you have gaim?
[11:47] <d-s-d> BUT, if I start sound-recorder, audacity or krec, i can't record anything.
[11:47] <tom3> question: I keep getting the same problem: booting up ubuntu, getting the gnome login screen, then brown screen forever
[11:47] <jbrimble> martina: Search for it in the package manager, or just use gaim. either way, whatever.
[11:47] <d-s-d> All these applications don't "hear" anything.
[11:48] <ipmuz> likwidtek_: no, but i read an article about this in a linux magazine some months ago.
[11:48] <Macktrucker> How do you access your windows partition in ubuntu?
[11:48] <d-s-d> My simple question is: How can i make hear them the sound?
[11:48] <ipmuz> likwidtek_: and they ment, that it does work :-)
[11:48] <abrr> i was change from Gnome to KDE & after that, i can't use these applications which ones i was use before with Gnome, like gnome-terminal. Any ideas?
[11:48] <d-s-d> sound-record and audacity use the /dev/dsp file... obviously, nothing's coming out of dsp... so how can i make the sound coming out of dsp?
[11:48] <d-s-d> (and why can't i use alsa?)
[11:49] <scheuri> hi all
[11:49] <Half-Left> abrr, why use gnome stuff in KDE?
[11:49] <scheuri> !pastebin
[11:49] <pezzz> anyone with a sagem fast800 on dapper
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:49] <likwidtek_> ipmuz, cool I'll look into it.  Also my other question is... is why does it take me sooo long to get an IP address.  In OS X and windows its almost instant.  but it takes forever all the time in ubuntu.  Is there a command to release and renew and IP other that ifconfig eth1 down / up ?
[11:49] <scheuri> Half-Left: why not? ;)....freedom of choice...
[11:49] <abrr> Half-Left, becouse i was use them before
[11:49] <Half-Left> scheuri, and more memory
[11:50] <abrr> because*
[11:50] <Half-Left> abrr, it's pointless, just use kde version, konsole, KDE has stupid K names :p
[11:50] <pyonpyon> i would also like to know if ubuntu has an easy way to access ntfs ^^
[11:50] <pyonpyon> <_<;
[11:51] <abrr> Half-Left, yeah, but u see, i can't use any stuff like add aplications, Evolution & etc..
[11:52] <Half-Left> abrr, KDE comes with it's own apps, kmail ect...
[11:52] <likwidtek_> d-s-d, i'm sorry I am not familiar enough with it to help you.  :(
[11:52] <peej> if I want to become a bittorrent seed (for something which is rarely available - ie I want to make it more available), how do I do it? Software to use? How do I register with a tracker? I can't seem to find a good guide on this.
[11:52] <ipmuz> likwidtek_: mmh
[11:52] <tom3> I've a login problem with gnome, anyone can help? (waiting forever on the brown screen after entering login/password)
[11:52] <Half-Left> abrr, and gnome apps will run in KDE, they just take more memory because they are not in share memory
[11:52] <martina> WITH YAHOO MESSENGER CAN I CHAT WITH MSN IF I HAVE UBUNTU?
[11:52] <peej> tom3 : are you able to login eventually ?
[11:52] <likwidtek_> tom3, and it's the correct name and password?
[11:53] <likwidtek_> martina, please no cpas
[11:53] <likwidtek_> caps
[11:53] <martina> I DON'T UNDERSTAND
[11:53] <likwidtek_> martina just google gaim ok?
[11:53] <ipmuz> likwidtek_: sounds strange. i'm having an wpa-ap and after that there is an linux dhcp-daemon working. and that takes about 5 secs to get an new ip.
[11:53] <tom3> yes, it loads for a while and then, instead of showing all the icons, it just stays on the brown screen; I can log in the failsafe terminal no problem though
[11:53] <skule> martina, I use psi for all msn, icq, yahoo etc
[11:54] <martina> WHAT'S?
[11:54] <Half-Left> martina, gaim supports, yahoo, msn ect...
[11:54] <abrr> Half-Left, that's the problem, i can't run them in KDE
[11:54] <tom3> or do multiple logins, it's only when using gnome it just hangs there, mouse's responsive, etc
[11:54] <Half-Left> abrr, why not?
[11:54] <likwidtek_> tom3, shitty solve I know but have you tried format and reinstall?  Could be easier than tryign to pinpoint the error?  Also what sort of hardware is ubuntu running on?
[11:54] <asathoor> martina; I use gaim
[11:54] <martina> WHAT'S GAIM?
[11:55] <Half-Left> chat program
[11:55] <Half-Left> messenger
[11:55] <tom3> it's on a R3065 laptop (Compaq), I've reinstalled a couple times; first load of the HDD does it, then I disabled ACPI and it worked fine, till today; booting from the CD works every time
[11:55] <abrr> Half-Left, i don't know, that's the reason, why i'm asking here :) when i'm trying to run them, i got error that something bad with gtk
[11:55] <likwidtek_> http://www.google.com/search?q=gaim  martina
[11:55] <peej> martina: THIS IS REGARDED AS SHOUTING. Don't shout. It's harder to read.
[11:55] <asathoor> martina >> gaim is for multiple chat systeems - you can use messenger, icq etc. on gaim
[11:55] <Half-Left> abrr, the error would help
[11:55] <tom3> I've seen that problem on forums, but no answers, just a couple fights between people :)
[11:55] <pyonpyon> martina: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaim
[11:55] <abrr> Half-Left, if i'm trying to run them in console
[11:55] <abrr> Half-Left, wait
[11:56] <yango> MARTINA, TYPE WWW.GOOGLE.COM IN A WEB BROWSER AND IN THE SEARCH BOX TYPE "GAIM", THEN, CLICK ON A LINK THAT'LL DESCRIBE WHAT GAIM IS AND HOW TO USE IT
[11:56] <elkbuntu> yango, dont be stupid like that
[11:56] <scheuri> does anyone know how to bring back debconf (for dpkg-reconfigure) back to ncurses instead of X-windows-stuff? I get error messages such as http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19373 , which make me nervous.
[11:56] <Half-Left> You dont need many braincells to setup gaim
[11:57] <Half-Left> :p
[11:57] <martina> ok thanks...and sorry
[11:57] <yango> elkbuntu, why not?
[11:57] <likwidtek_> so does issuing the commands ifconfig eth1 down and then ifconfig eth1 up renew the ip as well?
[11:57] <peej> martina: cool.
[11:57] <likwidtek_> or is there a seperate command to do that?
[11:58] <elkbuntu> yango, typing in caps just because someone else did is a stupid thing to do. dont encourage them to continue at all
[11:58] <likwidtek_> martina, no problem dude :)  We all learned at point or the other.
[11:58] <sudomania4> I have a syntax error in my sudoers file, but it prevents me from using sudo to fix the error
[11:58] <sudomania4> what should I do?
[11:58] <scheuri> oh my...I just solved it myself...:)...sorry for interruption
[11:59] <tom3> I think it is possible that gnome waits for 'some' event; is there a way to know what it could be?
[11:59] <peej> likwidtek_ : renew the ip? It tears down your ip address and sets it up again based on your config in /etc/
[11:59] <yango> elkbuntu, that wasn't my question
[11:59] <stoned> I just generated a sources.list from the !easysource and got the keys too, then apt-get update always tells me this
[11:59] <stoned> I just generated a sources.list from the !easysource and got the keys too, then apt-get update always tells me this
[11:59] <likwidtek_> so when i down up it it's the same thing as ipconfig /release; ipconfig /renew in windows??
[11:59] <stoned> argh
[11:59] <stoned> goddamn irc
[12:00] <Half-Left> tom3, you could start gnome-session in the fail safe login option
[12:00] <brickster> i need help getting my livecd to boot, could someone help me?
[12:00] <ardchoille> !language
[12:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:00] <scheuri> stoned: this language ist uncalled for
[12:00] <stoned> well sorry, Im sure god usually damns people, but whatever, anyway
[12:00] <elkbuntu> yango, what was your question? 'why not be stupid?' this is a support channel, we do not need people making support or getting answers harder by being stupid.
[12:01] <tom3> half-left: it's the same, only the terminal or consoles do work perfectly
[12:01] <stoned> http://pastebin.ca/109799 <-- this is what happens on my apt-get update although I can ping the sites fine
[12:01] <stoned> I JUST gnerated a new sources.list from the !easysource
[12:01] <Half-Left> tom3, does it print out any errors?
[12:02] <peej> likwidtek_ : whoah. network config seems to have changed in dapper .... I think you used to have /etc/network/options but I don't see that anymore
[12:02] <longwave> stoned: do you have a proxy configured?
[12:02] <stoned> longwave: no
[12:02] <likwidtek_> peej, isn't there a dhclient command or something to talk to the dhcp server to force an ip grab?
[12:03] <sudomania4> anyone?
[12:03] <sudomania4> I have a syntax error in my sudoers file, but it prevents me from using sudo to fix the error
[12:03] <sudomania4> what should I do?
[12:03] <brickster> would someone kindly help me get my livecd to boot?
[12:03] <snk00sj_> can anyone explain why the 'Make Link' action in nautilus is disabled on some folders ?
[12:03] <snk00sj_> the folder & parent folder have 777 as permission
[12:03] <tom3> half-left: nothing, I can not find anything weird in the logs either; it just hangs waiting for something; on the web, some people reported the same problem and said gnome starts after several minutes of waiting, but no solution there. I wonder if it could be a network timeout, do you know how I can disable the network interfaces from the console?
[12:03] <likwidtek_> sudomania4, oh man.... I dunno!  That sounds crappy tho
[12:03] <yango> peej, /etc/network/interfaces
[12:04] <likwidtek_> sudomania4, have you tried booting from the live cd?
[12:04] <asathoor> brickster >> just put it in the cdrom-drive and boot
[12:04] <Lynoure> sudomania4: recovery boot, should get you single user mode as root, fix there?
[12:04] <stoned> in can however ping all the sites in my sources list
[12:04] <peej> yango: phew. yeah, just noticed it.
[12:04] <asathoor> brickster if it does'nt work then you should look at the bios stettings
[12:04] <frosty_badfish> can anyone tell me when it is necessary to install vncserver while you can use vncviewer to connect after you allowed remote desktop connection (system .preferences,remote desktop)?
[12:04] <Half-Left> tom3, yes it can be network related
[12:04] <asathoor> brickster>> your pc must boot from cdrom
[12:05] <MenZa> :O
[12:05] <brickster> asathoor: It starts, but it gets to mounting root filesystem and stops, wont say "ok" and wont go further
[12:05] <peej> if I want to become a bittorrent seed (for something which is rarely available - ie I want to make it more available), how do I do it? Software to use? How do I register with a tracker? I can't seem to find a good guide on this.
[12:05] <asathoor> brickster >> sounds like an error on the cd
[12:05] <stoned> anyone
[12:05] <frosty_badfish> tom3 sudo ifdown eth0 (after you have seen which interface with ifconfig -a)
[12:05] <likwidtek_> brickster, yeah i would download the iso again and burn it on another cd
[12:06] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[12:06] <brickster> asathoor: the cd is fine, i've burnt two seperate discs and also got them to boot fine on the other computer
[12:06] <tom3> frosty: ok, cool, thx!
[12:06] <tom3> I'll go try that right now
[12:06] <likwidtek_> brickster, then it's a hardware issue with that pc
[12:07] <peej> likwidtek_ : dunno. Do dhcp servers not just talk and connect to a static ip address anyway? You could maybe restrict the range of dhcpserver addresses to just that static ip address?
[12:07] <likwidtek_> try replacing the cd drive or IDE cables?
[12:07] <Half-Left> Anyone boot faster than 30seconds to login?
[12:07] <brickster> any idea what the most likely culprit is? i've read some stuff about acpi and such being a problem
[12:07] <likwidtek_> peej, well it will always work if I do this:  Go into the gui go to eh config for my wireless device... change it to somethign else and change it back
[12:08] <likwidtek_> then it forces it to work.  I'm sure the gui is issuing a command that I just don't know how to do manually.  i would like to know what it is.
[12:08] <abrr> Half-Left, it's seems like allright know, i was recompile gtk & now everything look's fine :)
[12:08] <Half-Left> :)
[12:08] <peej> likwidtek_ : googled for it yet?
[12:08] <brickster> sorry, maybe i need to clarify, the cd boots up, the unbuntu start start screen comes up, it passes uncompression of the kernel, then stops at the mountinf root filesystem
[12:09] <likwidtek_> peej, yeah but a lot of false positives..  I really don't know what search terms to look for.
[12:09] <stoned> I JUST gnerated a new sources.list from the !easysource .  but on apt-get update I get this > http://pastebin.ca/109799 .  Can anyone please help me, as I am unable to use apt
[12:09] <stoned> also, I just isntalled dapper from the cd
[12:10] <likwidtek_> sudo dhclient
[12:10] <peej> likwidtek_ : you looked through man dhclient yet?
[12:10] <likwidtek_> but not sure if thats the ticket or not
[12:10] <pezzz> anyone with a sagem fast800 on dapper
[12:10] <mikefrmnz> Hi - how can I get my HDD to power down after a certain amount of time?
[12:10] <likwidtek_> no I didn't man dhclient lemme do that real quick
[12:11] <peej> mikefrmnz : the command line way is to use an hdparm option
[12:11] <likwidtek_> by the way... nothing is leeter than having os x and ubuntu on one machine.  this is too cool
[12:11] <likwidtek_> :)
[12:12] <mikefrmnz> If I set hdparm will it remain set on further boots?
[12:12] <arto> Are there any internet recourses that give recommendation about the best linux/ubuntu hardware compatibility/configuration that would best keep my linux system stable and well configured? I mean, if there is not, then there should be. Instead of all the hassle people waste in configuring drivers.
[12:12] <stoned> anyone?
[12:12] <peej> brickster : mounting filesystem ---- I think there's a major bug issue on that in the wiki
[12:13] <brickster> peej: i think you're right
[12:13] <windu> 'jour
[12:13] <Half-Left> arto, no best, Linux has the best hardware detection out of the box than any OS
[12:13] <peej> brickster : synopsis: system freezes at that point for some hardware. Some people workaround it by disabling parts of bios they don't need. Dunno much about it though
[12:13] <brickster> peej: ive read about apic and acpi stuff, and perhaps the mounting issue has something to do with the start up not detecting the cd drive to load from
[12:14] <stoned> I JUST gnerated a new sources.list from the !easysource .  but on apt-get update I get this > http://pastebin.ca/109799 .  Can anyone please help me, as I am unable to use apt
[12:14] <dockane> hi all.. i have got a problem with usb. i am running motion with 4 webcams and from time to time i find "[4422507.593000]  pwc Disconnected while webcam is in use!" in the logs and from then on khubd uses up complete cpu perfomance. any ideas?
[12:14] <arto> Half-Left: I believe that the main hardware detection problem is mostly in graphic cards detection. At least people should be aware which one/model is best.
[12:14] <arto> Half-Left: And also sound-cards detection.. somehow.
[12:15] <brickster> peej: does mounting filesystem mean that ubuntu is trying to find the cd data to load?
[12:15] <arto> Half-Left: Besides, how can you backup what you're saying? :P
[12:15] <Half-Left> arto, I can back it up because it's a fact, and the kernel devs say it
[12:15] <peej> stoned : umm.... connection failed. Can you web to ubuntu, say with lynx?
[12:15] <likwidtek_> anyone else running ubuntu on a powerbook?
[12:16] <arto> Half-Left: To backup, you must compare it let's say to XP?
[12:16] <peej> brickster: I think so.
[12:16] <stoned> peej: yes and I can ping the sites and all the ips that apparantly can't be connected to
[12:16] <frogzoo> stoned: can you ping any of those sites?
[12:16] <mikefrmnz> Whats the first HDD called? for the hdparm command?
[12:16] <Half-Left> arto, XP is 5 years old
[12:16] <longwave> mikefrmnz: /dev/hda if it's IDE
[12:16] <westsurf_> hey - back again
[12:17] <arto> Half-Left: SP1, SP2.. make some difference, but if I am not quite wrong.. have you ever had hardware configuration problems with XP?
[12:17] <frogzoo> mikefrmnz: /dev/hda - for first ide drive
[12:17] <mikefrmnz> And will it remember my commands I set with hdparm on reboot?
[12:17] <frogzoo> mikefrmnz: no - you need to put them in /etc/hdparm.conf
[12:17] <Half-Left> arto, it doesnot support Nforce out of the box, ethernet, sound and I have that
[12:17] <stoned> so now what?
[12:18] <Half-Left> Half-Left, also VIA chipsets with full agp support and many othe
[12:18] <peej> stoned : apt-get talks over web port. If web is still working, then apt-get is broken. Strange.
[12:18] <frogzoo> stoned: describe your network setup - routers/firewalls...
[12:18] <Half-Left> arto, also VIA chipsets with full agp support and many othe
[12:18] <Macktrucker> Mark shuttleworth is jesus
[12:18] <Macktrucker> praise sweet baby mark
[12:18] <frogzoo> stoned: do you have a proxy set in /etc/wgetrc ???
[12:19] <yango> peej, not necessarily true... there might be around some env vars that break apt-get behavior
[12:19] <frogzoo> Macktrucker: ahem...
[12:19] <arto> Half-Left: I got you now. But there is still another point.. It's more important to configure a hardware perfectly with an external (disk,CD) driver than just putting generic configuration into a kernel, which will reduce its performance. Or what?
[12:19] <Macktrucker> frogzoo you smell dude, you got not root but bum fumes, wipe ure butt dude.
[12:19] <stoned> frogzoo: no I do not
[12:19] <Half-Left> arto, Service packs add some drivers, but you still need a disk for most of your drives in XP
[12:19] <Macktrucker> im a genius
[12:19] <frogzoo> Macktrucker: /ignore Macktrucker
[12:19] <Macktrucker> love you to man
[12:19] <peej> yango: possible too, I spose.
[12:19] <likwidtek_> hehe
[12:20] <Half-Left> arto, The Linux kernel detects hardware on boot, unlike XP
[12:20] <Macktrucker> likwidtek_ you are the shitnitz dude, respect brutha wanna start a distro called the shitnitz bros?
[12:20] <stoned> frogzoo: also my network has not caused any problems ever I'm online right now, resolv.conf is fine, network is always like this and works, its not a networking issue on my hardware end, not software either afaict, but apt seems broken.  I can ping the sites and I can get on the sites in browser, everything seems fine
[12:20] <westsurf_> can anyone tell me whether the AMD64 distro has support for Nforce RAID, ethernet, audio?
[12:20] <likwidtek_> anyone able to get 3d acceleration support on an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600?
[12:20] <yango> stoned do you have http_proxy env var set?
[12:21] <stoned> yango: no I do not
[12:21] <Macktrucker> westsurf no it doesnt now go by a mac, you sound like my grandma
[12:21] <Half-Left> arto, try changing you motherboard chipset in XP, you'll get a BSOD, Linux kernel detects on boot
[12:21] <arto> Half-Left: did you read my previous message? The hardware detection in any kernel, would have general drivers that are not customized for specific hardware, and therefore wouldn't give the same quality as an external cd.
[12:21] <frogzoo> stoned: if you've got ethereal installed, it will make more clear what's going on
[12:21] <yango> stoned, and you use a proxy to navigate?
[12:21] <likwidtek_> 50% of the people I talk to or read say it's not supported but the others say you can do it
[12:21] <Macktrucker> rogk, Your not welcome here.
[12:21] <Macktrucker> please leave
[12:21] <stoned> or I could just reinstall debian
[12:21] <uiaenrtd> How can I start gnome-terminal without the menu bar?
[12:21] <Macktrucker> join #mandriva
[12:22] <westsurf_> Oh thanks macktrucker (wouldn't want to mis spell that tag buddy)
[12:22] <stoned> ubuntu gives me more crap than sid
[12:22] <yango> you're stoned
[12:22] <likwidtek_> sid?
[12:22] <Half-Left> arto, not, your hardware is detected on boot, ie. if you have a nForce chipset it will load the proper modules
[12:22] <arto> stoned: What's your problem?
[12:22] <Macktrucker> westsurf_ lets take over the world.
[12:22] <stoned> I don't see how it 'just works'
[12:22] <westsurf_> shame I already have one
[12:22] <Macktrucker> k?
[12:22] <Macktrucker> you in bro?
[12:22] <westsurf_> MAck F
[12:22] <Macktrucker> you an I
[12:22] <stoned> never works for me :(
[12:22] <rogk> Macktrucker: Why's that?
[12:22] <peej> stoned : I guess it should be called: "it usually works"
[12:22] <Macktrucker> the room is closing soon for a meeting
[12:22] <Macktrucker> please leave mate.
[12:23] <Macktrucker> it's mark here.
[12:23] <frogzoo> stoned: really, getting apt to talk is very straightforward - it's just http - if you can browse, so can apt, but you seem to have a proxy issue which you're unaware of - but that's dependent on your setup - just get apt to duplicate whatever settings your browser uses
[12:23] <arto> Half-Left: I understand this, but I don't think there is a list of modules for every piece of hardware. They are rather general modules, not perfectly customized. Get it? Correct me if I am wrong.
[12:23] <stoned> THERE IS NO PROXY! anywhere
[12:23] <elkbuntu> !ops
[12:23] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:23] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: ?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ?
[12:23] <Macktrucker> oh no
[12:23] <Macktrucker> here i go
[12:23] <elkbuntu> he's trolling
[12:23] <Macktrucker> !
[12:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:23] <imbrandon> ?
[12:23] <elkbuntu> trolled -offtopic earlier
[12:23] <uiaenrtd> How can I start gnome-terminal without the menu bar?
[12:23] <frogzoo> stoned: check for proxy setting in your browser - then check for proxy settings in /etc/wgetrc
[12:23] <Macktrucker> im on dynamic ip
[12:24] <stoned> frogzoo: I did, nothing
[12:24] <gnomefreak> him?
[12:24] <ompaul> ahh
[12:24] <Half-Left> arto, Like I said, Linux has the best "out of the box" support for harware than ANY OS
[12:24] <ompaul> well we can stop that
[12:24] <mof> anyone know of a guide to configure hardware/software mixing in alsa so i can play sound and record at the same time?
[12:24] <babo_> anyone care to comment on my webpage design ... http://www.englishteachingkorea.com/index1.php  ... ?
[12:24] <amarokker> who's trollin now?
[12:24] <babo_> honest critisim accepted :-)
[12:24] <stoned> frogzoo: like I said there aren't any proxy settings anywhere.
[12:24] <imbrandon> babo_: thats best for #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:24] <babo_> cool
[12:24] <yango> stoned, you need to put something from your part if you want help... not just hating ubuntu :P
[12:24] <arto> Half-Left: You don't seem to understand english. Anyway, nevermind.
[12:25] <Half-Left> arto, XP dont even have usb 2.0 support out of the box
[12:25] <mikearthur> would using a linux-source from edgy in dapper have a problem?
[12:25] <mikearthur> Half-Left: thats a lie
[12:25] <uiaenrtd> anyone mind telling me?
[12:25] <Half-Left> mikearthur, really?
[12:25] <mikearthur> would using a linux-source from edgy in dapper cause any problem?
[12:25] <mikearthur> would using a linux-source from edgy in dapper cause any problems?
[12:25] <mikearthur> there we go, spelling 3rd time lucky :D
[12:25] <frogzoo> mikearthur: perhaps not - if ./configure is happy
[12:25] <mikearthur> Half-Left: yes
[12:25] <yango> elkbuntu, is the deputy sheriff here 8)
[12:25] <mikearthur> frogzoo: cool
[12:25] <Hobbsee> mikearthur: yes.  a lot.
[12:25] <arto> mikearthur: why risk?
[12:25] <frosty_badfish> stoned: why have you generated another list for your sources.list?
[12:25] <stoned> yango: I simply installed dapper from the cd, and then I changed the sources.list with the one generated from !easysource and now apt is screwed
[12:26] <ompaul> mikearthur, in a word, if I have to say it, without a doubt. "Yes!"
[12:26] <stoned> frosty_badfish: does that matter? unless the sources.list generation site is not good/reliable
[12:26] <Half-Left> mikearthur, then why does my nForce2 mobo run ar usb 1 speed?
[12:26] <yango> !easysource
[12:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:26] <azrael0> Does anyone know how to install grub to a loopback device?
[12:26] <uiaenrtd> can I at all start gnome-terminal without the menu bar?
[12:26] <mikearthur> Half-Left: some ports are USB1, some are USB iirc
[12:26] <elkbuntu> yango, no, im not. but when someone comes in and tries to pretend to be the sabdfl, they deserve a boot and a stick of dynamite
[12:26] <likwidtek_> anyone knwo if it's possible to get 3d acceleration to work on an ati radeon mobility 9600 ?
[12:26] <frogzoo> uiaenrtd: gnome-terminal --help
[12:26] <yango> stoned, maybe soure-o-matic is screwed... have you tried with the original list?
[12:27] <frogzoo> likwidtek_: indeed, very doable
[12:27] <stoned> yango: I don't have it, and whatever happend to apt-setup/apt-spy?
[12:27] <stoned> they dont' exist in ubuntu?
[12:27] <Half-Left> mikearthur, no, may USB 2.0 ports run at usb 1 speed, you need chipset drivers for USB 2.0 full speed
[12:27] <frogzoo> stoned: can you run ethereal?
[12:27] <Half-Left> my*
[12:27] <stoned> frogzoo: apt wont' work mate
[12:27] <stoned> frogzoo: can't read package list, cuz it can't update
[12:27] <likwidtek_> frogzoo, serious?  3d accel?  Why does everyone say it's impossible and why am i unable to get it to work?  Wanna school me?
[12:27] <frosty_badfish> stoned: and all the gpg keys are in it?
[12:27] <FifaFrazer> I have no sound and i can't run alsaconfig or alsaconf for some reason. It says command not found. What to do now?
[12:27] <yango> stoned, they do... but you need apt to get them :D
[12:28] <stoned> frosty_badfish: yes, I imported the keys already
[12:28] <mikearthur> Hobbsee: what problems?
[12:28] <frogzoo> stoned: I find that very hard to believe - seriously, it works for everyone - try ethereal & really see what's going on
[12:28] <likwidtek_> frogzoo, by the way I am on a PowerBook G4
[12:28] <stoned> yango: well apt aint working right now
[12:28] <frogzoo> likwidtek_: ah, well that's different
[12:28] <Hobbsee> mikearthur: any ubuntu patches that have been applied that are edgy specific, etc, stuff that should be in dapper, btu not edgy...
[12:28] <likwidtek_> frogzoo, why?
[12:29] <frogzoo> likwidtek_: different drive
[12:29] <frogzoo> likwidtek_: different driver
[12:29] <yango> stoned, I know. what does it say?
[12:29] <likwidtek_> hmmm
[12:29] <g1g4nt1c> FifaFrazer did you apt alsaconf
[12:29] <mikearthur> Hobbsee: any examples you can think of?
[12:29] <stoned> yango: I just told you, I CANT USE APT.  It won't install anything, I can't install ethereal so I can't use it
[12:29] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[12:30] <peej> stoned: shall I pastebin you an original sourcelist
[12:30] <yango> stoned, WHAT DOES APT SAY, when it doesn't install anything
[12:30] <stoned> peej: please
[12:30] <Hobbsee> mikearthur: more that i choose not to.  there's a thread on ubuntu forums about using later kernels.  or just wait a few months
[12:30] <likwidtek_> frogzoo, xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[12:30] <stoned> yango: how can it install anything if it can't even read the pacakges list or update its repository list
[12:31] <yango> stoned, $ apt-get install foo => what does it give as output?
[12:31] <dobblego> I have downloaded a .deb file; how do I install it?
[12:31] <stoned> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[12:31] <peej> stoned: http://pastebin.ca/109830
[12:31] <stoned> reason being.. no packae list
[12:32] <stoned> yango: man just .. shush
[12:32] <longwave> dobblego: "dpkg -i filename.deb"
[12:32] <dobblego> longwave, cheers
[12:32] <likwidtek_> Has anyone in here gotten radeon 3d acceleration to work in ubuntu on an apple powerpc?
[12:32] <loko555> can somebody tell me please how i can increase the size of the history in the terminal?
[12:33] <FifaFrazer> g1g4ntlc, the synaptic package manager tells me that i have alsa-base, alsa-utils and alsa library installed
[12:33] <likwidtek_> loko555, the buffer?
[12:33] <loko555> i mean the size where i can see me last inputs
[12:33] <frosty_badfish> stoned: well I just also generated a sources.list from us repository , now problems here thow
[12:33] <loko555> ot the size of the line-buffer
[12:33] <likwidtek_> create a new profile and its in scrolling options
[12:33] <yango> I think stoned won't be able to make it work
[12:34] <peej> stoned: another suggestion: try it as real root rather than sudo. env variables may carry over differently.
[12:34] <likwidtek_> make scrollback and line as many 9's as you can fit
[12:34] <elkbuntu> loko555, edit > current profile
[12:34] <loko555> no i dn't mean this lines
[12:34] <likwidtek_> lines and kilobytes loko555 right?
[12:34] <peej> !easysource
[12:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:35] <loko555> i mean the history of the commands i enter in the console
[12:35] <likwidtek_> oh hmmm
[12:35] <likwidtek_> your bash history?
[12:35] <yango> loko555, .bash_history
[12:35] <stoned> nothing
[12:35] <yango> loko555, if you use bash
[12:35] <stoned> alright forget this
[12:35] <yango> see? I knew it
[12:35] <stoned> back to debian I go
[12:35] <loko555> yes .bash_history
[12:35] <stoned> I can't deal with this nonesnse
[12:36] <likwidtek_> :)
[12:36] <likwidtek_> too much pot for linux
[12:36] <likwidtek_> heh
[12:36] <frosty_badfish> hmm I just generated a list fom him
[12:36] <likwidtek_> any other mac users using ubuntu in here?
[12:36] <loko555> so how can i increase the size of .bash_history
[12:37] <damian_> there's an ubuntu for mac?
[12:37] <likwidtek_> nano .bash_history
[12:37] <protocol1> damian_, yup
[12:37] <damian_> on ppc?
[12:37] <likwidtek_> damian_, yeah I have it installe don my powerbook right now
[12:37] <Half-Left> loko555, I dont think there is a limit, since it's a text file
[12:37] <damian_> or just intel
[12:37] <protocol1> damian_, yes there is
[12:37] <peej> Oh, found the answer to this: if I want to become a bittorrent seed (for something which is rarely available - ie I want to make it more available), how do I do it? Software to use? How do I register with a tracker? I can't seem to find a good guide on this.
[12:37] <likwidtek_> damian_, yeah dude.  Dualbooted OS X and ubuntu heh
[12:37] <frogzoo> loko555: HISTFILESIZE
[12:37] <protocol1> its on the site
[12:38] <frogzoo> loko555: HISTFILESIZE & HISTSIZE
[12:38] <lhds> hello i need to search my pc for a file that is bigger than 800 mb how to proceed?
[12:38] <peej> by reading http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-February/000539.html
[12:38] <Krpano> what is the best torrent client to use with Dapper ?
[12:38] <frogzoo> lhds: find . -size +800M   I think
[12:38] <bayzider> hey i need help with my dual boot
[12:38] <likwidtek_> damian_, only PPC dont think mactel is supported yet
[12:38] <loko555> frogzoo: where to handle with these commands?
[12:38] <dobblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/GNq6GF91.html why doesn't this .deb seem to install?
[12:38] <bayzider> when i boot up my computer
[12:38] <bayzider> i see all the oses but when i boot into windows it dosent boot all the way
[12:39] <frogzoo> loko555: .bashrc should work fine
[12:39] <damian_> where does it hang
[12:39] <loko555> frogzoo: and what if i have no bashrc?
[12:40] <dobblego> loko555, you do cat ~/.bashrc
[12:40] <bayzider> can some one help me
[12:40] <likwidtek_> David Hasslehof sucks :)
[12:40] <mikearthur> bayzider: what happens
[12:40] <frogzoo> loko555: .bashrc should work fine
[12:40] <frogzoo> !helpme
[12:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:40] <Half-Left> likwidtek_, Knight Rider was the cool in the 80's :-)
[12:41] <bayzider> windows trys to do a disk check or something when it does it just stops booting at the logo
[12:41] <bayzider> and when i stop the disk check same shit
[12:41] <likwidtek_> Half-Left, hehe I'm watching it on sci fi right now.  45 mins of other actors and 15 mins of the hoff to save the day
[12:41] <damian_> it's doing chkdsk
[12:41] <likwidtek_> weird
[12:41] <loko555> but if i don't have a bashrc, it must be defined somewhere else? or am i wrong?
[12:41] <damian_> that takes a while
[12:41] <damian_> bayzider
[12:41] <dobblego> loko555, type cat ~/.bashrc
[12:41] <damian_> let it finish
[12:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:41] <damian_> and it will boot into windows
[12:41] <bayzider> ya
[12:41] <frogzoo> loko555: dotbashrc - not bashrc
[12:41] <Half-Left> likwidtek_, yer, watched it yesterday :p
[12:41] <damian_> it takes like an hour
[12:41] <yango> loko555, touch ~/.bashrc
[12:41] <yango> loko555, vi ~/.bashrc
[12:42] <yango> loko555, etc :)
[12:42] <bayzider> what wrong with it
[12:42] <loko555> i know, : user@w5f-laptop:~$ cat ~/.bashrc
[12:42] <loko555> cat: /home/user/.bashrc: No such file or director
[12:42] <damian_> nothing really
[12:42] <damian_> it's just conducting its regular disk checking stuff
[12:42] <bayzider> but it dosent work
[12:42] <damian_> otherwise the filesystem becomes too broken
[12:42] <yango> loko555, then create it
[12:42] <bayzider> like it wont boot
[12:42] <lhds> i need a working win4lin pro 2.7 code
[12:42] <Half-Left> likwidtek_, I'm waiting for Street Hawk but not seen it on there :/
[12:42] <damian_> does the windows boot screen appear?
[12:42] <yango> loko555, you can base it on the file /etc/profile
[12:43] <lhds>  i need a working win4lin pro 2.7 code prvt me please
[12:43] <bayzider> yeah then it goes to the blue background and the windows logo and then it would say welcome but ti just stops and the logo
[12:43] <frogzoo> lhds: soo offtopic dude
[12:43] <likwidtek_> !offtopic > Half-Left
[12:43] <lhds> man this is help
[12:43] <Half-Left> I know :p
[12:43] <ompaul> likwidtek_, ;-)
[12:43] <likwidtek_> sorry ompaul :/
[12:43] <ompaul> np
[12:44] <loko555> ok, thanks for help, i'll try it
[12:44] <damian_> do you have your winxp cd laying around
[12:44] <lhds>  i need a working win4lin pro 2.7 where can i find one>???
[12:44] <Half-Left> likwidtek_, off topic sucks :/
[12:44] <Krpano> can someone give me a tip on a decent torrent client ?
[12:44] <likwidtek_> hahaha
[12:44] <bayzider> a pirated one =) but yeah it works
[12:44] <damian_> ok good
[12:44] <frogzoo> lhds: this isn't a warez chan, so respect that
[12:44] <damian_> the cd has a repair functionality
[12:44] <likwidtek_> Krpano, you have automatix installed?
[12:44] <Krpano> yes
[12:44] <damian_> it might be of use
[12:44] <bayzider> uh yeah
[12:44] <likwidtek_> theres one that comes with it isnt there?
[12:44] <bayzider> should i boot off it
[12:45] <damian_> yes
[12:45] <bayzider> and repair
[12:45] <damian_> but you need to know what to do
[12:45] <likwidtek_> bittornado or something
[12:45] <damian_> there are guides around
[12:45] <damian_> lemme find a good one
[12:45] <ardchoille> damian_: Shouldn't that go to #windows?
[12:45] <bayzider> i cant reinstall windows thou
[12:45] <Krpano> ill check it out
[12:45] <damian_> right
[12:45] <Krpano> thx
[12:45] <damian_> it will just repiar it
[12:45] <likwidtek_> is anyone allowed to use the explimation point bots?
[12:45] <bayzider> it took for ever get all the drivers and shit
[12:45] <damian_> and will leave everything intact
[12:45] <likwidtek_> !bittorrent
[12:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about bittorrent - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:45] <damian_> gimme a moment
[12:46] <damian_> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
[12:46] <damian_> try that
[12:46] <damian_> print the instructions on another comp
[12:46] <ardchoille> !offtopic > damian_
[12:46] <[Nige] > hi all
[12:46] <damian_> you need admnistrative priviledges
[12:46] <bayzider> i have noaccses to a printer at all
[12:46] <damian_> hmm
[12:46] <likwidtek_> www.google.com/search?q=bittorrent+ubuntu comes up with tons of stuff
[12:46] <damian_> then you might want to write down the main instructions
[12:47] <damian_> and read it a few times
[12:47] <Krpano> most of the clients i used are crap....azureus included...
[12:48] <damian_> azureus=badnwidth hog
[12:48] <bayzider> the pain in the ass is i then would have to install grub again and i dont know how to do that
[12:48] <FifaFrazer> I got ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop but i cant get my soundblaster vibra isa card to work.. The alsaconf/alsaconfig command is not found but i have installed the alsa-base and alsa-utils packages... What to do now?
[12:48] <Krpano> my wish now is to have utorrent for dapper
[12:48] <bayzider> and i need to hold some drivers here on linux
[12:48] <CarinArr> likwidtek_, that doesn't necessarily advise him on which one to use though..
[12:48] <rob> I thought Rufus and Ktorrent were ok
[12:48] <damian_> but grub loads before windows
[12:48] <azrael0> Krpano: If you don't mind a curses interface, you could try rtorrent
[12:48] <damian_> does grub not work either?
[12:48] <damian_> oh wait
[12:48] <damian_> that's right
[12:48] <damian_> nm
[12:48] <Krpano> ill check that one too
[12:48] <zool2005> a useful snippet of info for anyone having problems with a failed samba upgrade https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/48082
[12:48] <damian_> yeah
[12:48] <zsh> hey, i have an nvidia gforce4 mx440 yet ubuntu detects it as an sis 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter. how can i change that
[12:48] <damian_> it will be a pain
[12:49] <nigue> could somebody help me?
[12:49] <nigue> :)
[12:49] <likwidtek_> CarinArr, I have no experience with any in linux so I can't say for sure.  But I'm sure he can download a few and try them.  I guess Bittornado would be my first guess as it's the default automatix one
[12:49] <rob> !ask
[12:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:49] <bayzider> but what happened to windows
[12:49] <lhds> is anyone running win4linpro 2.7? by any chance?
[12:49] <bayzider> it wokred fine b4 i insalled ubuntu
[12:49] <CarinArr> likwidtek_, yes, but my point is if you want advise on which one to use, when there are LOADS around, you're often better off asking people who're likely to be using them what they recommend
[12:49] <damian_> it might be a coincidence that it decided to die
[12:50] <damian_> the ubuntu installation should not have touched windows
[12:50] <qos> hi. i have an old ntfs harddisc and now i want to securly erase the entire harddisc!
[12:50] <lhds> dont die man
[12:50] <lhds> live
[12:50] <damian_> unless you overwrote your partitions
[12:50] <zsh> anyone?
[12:50] <bayzider> no i set it up right
[12:50] <lhds> is anyone running win4linpro 2.7? by any chance?
[12:50] <bayzider> i didint touch the fat32 partion that windows it on
[12:50] <damian_> then it might just be coincidental
[12:50] <bayzider> i just made a swap and / with the uncollated space
[12:50] <lhds> bayzider do you have a win4lin copy runnin?
[12:50] <damian_> or a bad hard drive
[12:50] <bayzider> whats that
[12:51] <ardchoille> !repeat lhds
[12:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about repeat lhds - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:51] <ardchoille> !repeat > lhds
[12:51] <lhds> what the hell?
[12:51] <lhds> ardchoille do you have a win4lin copy runnin?
[12:51] <lhds> i am not repeating i am asking ppl questions
[12:52] <zsh> i'm i to understand that out of  812 people no one can help me out? :(
[12:53] <nikin> zsh: whats your problem
[12:53] <dobblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/GNq6GF91.html is this is a simple problem? How do I found out what "errors were encountered"?
[12:53] <likwidtek_> zsh, ?
[12:53] <zsh> i have an nvidia gforce4 mx440 yet ubuntu detects it as an sis 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter. how can i change that
[12:53] <azrael0> zsh: What is it that you're reading that says it's "detected"?
[12:53] <azrael0> Is that from lspci?
[12:53] <qos> hi. i have an old ntfs harddisc and now i want to securly erase the entire harddisc! who do i do this?
[12:54] <azrael0> qos: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/devname
[12:54] <zsh> azrael0,  the xorg.conf
[12:54] <nikin> have you installed, the Nvidia Drivers
[12:54] <azrael0> zsh: xorg.conf is not generated dynamically
[12:54] <azrael0> zsh: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:54] <likwidtek_> !nvidia > zsh
[12:54] <azrael0> Then read again.
[12:54] <zsh> nikin, i have the nvidia-glx package installed
[12:55] <mjr> qos, what azrael0 said, though for _secure_ deletion you will want to run a couple of extra runs with if=/dev/urandom instaed of zero
[12:55] <lhds> how to switch rpm to deb?
[12:55] <ruxpin> what are sufficient rights to run network-admin?
[12:55] <bayzider> ok im gonna try it
[12:55] <[Nige] > completely the wrong place to ask this
[12:55] <bayzider> brb
[12:55] <CarinArr> !alien
[12:55] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:55] <lhds> gys
[12:55] <nikin> lhds ali
[12:55] <[Nige] > but, if i have a paid dns is anyone that can update it dynamically for me??
[12:55] <nikin> alien
[12:55] <nikin> !alien
[12:55] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:56] <lhds> dangerous?
[12:56] <zsh> likwidtek_, i've read and reread that
[12:56] <ardchoille> yes
[12:56] <lhds> like itl blow my system?
[12:56] <ardchoille> Using alien should be a last resort
[12:56] <nikin> lhds just dont use it for sstem packages
[12:56] <CarinArr> lhds, well the packages aren't made for the same distribution, so things can go wrong
[12:56] <azrael0> lhds: i.e. unless you have a good reason, you should probably resort to compiling from source before using a binary rpm
[12:56] <qos> mjr, soooo ... ?
[12:57] <lhds> well i have a version rpm of win4lin
[12:57] <lhds> with a working serial
[12:57] <azrael0> qos: Essentially, it depends on how clean it needs to be.
[12:57] <ompaul> !worksforme
[12:57] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:57] <lhds> can i find a deb version of old win4lin packages?
[12:57] <azrael0> qos: If you need it to the point where government workers with thousands of dollars can't recover it, he's right, run it several times, and using /dev/urandom wouldn't hurt.
[12:58] <likwidtek_> lhds, never heard of it.  :/
[12:58] <nikin> yust see the 26 kernel and OpenGL
[12:58] <azrael0> qos: If you just need to stop a local computer geek or someone without tons of money, a single pass with either device should work.
[12:58] <nikin> i think everyone sux with that
[12:58] <ompaul> lhds, random debs are as bad as random rpms
[12:58] <zsh> azrael0,  it still the same.
[12:58] <qos> azrael0, i think 3 overwrites should do the job. the hdisc then gets reformated and used by a familiy member.
[12:58] <likwidtek_> zsh, sorry.  I'm having graphics issues too.  I can't get 3d support on my powerbook's ATI card.  :(
[12:58] <CarinArr> lhds, if you can't and if you can't find the source (which i'm assuming you won't as it seems to be commercial software) that'd be one of the times you might have to use alien, but you should be aware that there's no guarantee it will work correctly
[12:58] <pyalot> so when I backup /etc I basically have everything I need as a reference for system configuration when setting up a new system right?
[12:59] <azrael0> zsh: Odd. I would think it woudl have regenerated properly.
[12:59] <zsh> likwidtek_, :9
[12:59] <FifaFrazer> How can i bring up the alsaconfig command ? :S
[12:59] <zsh> likwidtek_, :(
[12:59] <FifaFrazer> where the hell is it
[12:59] <azrael0> zsh: run lspci | grep nvidia
[12:59] <nikin> likvidtek: drivers and 23 kernel should help
[12:59] <zsh> azrael0, what does that do
[12:59] <nikin> helped me
[12:59] <nikin> :D
[12:59] <azrael0> zsh: my bad, lspci | grep nVidia
[12:59] <azrael0> zsh: That should tell us device information for anything by nvidia that linux can see.
[01:00] <likwidtek_> nikin, what do you mean?
[01:00] <zsh> azrael0, ok, will do
[01:00] <zsh> azrael0, nothing
[01:00] <azrael0> Nothing? and you have the capitalization as nVidia?
[01:00] <zsh> azrael0, it just goes back to command prompt
[01:00] <azrael0> OK.
[01:01] <azrael0> You're right in thinking linux doesn't see it then.
[01:01] <azrael0> try
[01:01] <azrael0> lspci | grep ATI
[01:01] <nikin> likwid: ubuntu has 2 kerneles and the newer one, sux... press esc when booting start... look on the screen., and select the other kernel
[01:01] <nikin> drivers are drivers
[01:01] <zsh> azrael0, its not an ati card
[01:01] <azrael0> zsh: I know that, but I want to see what it says.
[01:01] <chemaja> which filesystem creation options does Ubuntu Dapper do for the ext3 root partition? i have a pre-existing partition i'd like to use as /, and i want it to be what Ubuntu would expect / think is best...
[01:02] <zsh> azrael0,  nothing
[01:02] <frogzoo> anyone have  any luck getting kqemu to run with 0.8.2 ?
[01:02] <likwidtek_> nikin, have you gotten 3d acceleration to work on an apple PPC with an ATI card?
[01:02] <azrael0> Try lspci | grep VGA
[01:02] <zsh> azrael0, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[01:03] <vortexvein> ever since I switched what my default soundcard should be in systems -> preferences -> sound , I get no sound in programs like zsnes or freecraft, and I don't get any sound from flash movies either.
[01:03] <nikin> nope, not on PPC
[01:03] <vortexvein> whats up witht hat?
[01:03] <azrael0> zsh: I'm assuming that this is your onboard VGA perhaps?
[01:03] <likwidtek_> nikin, right...  As far as I know it can't be done.  But I keep hearing rumors that it can.
[01:03] <zsh> azrael0, my motherboard doesnt have an onboard card
[01:04] <azrael0> zsh: Hrm. I'm trying to figure out why it's not identifying right.
[01:04] <nikin> likw: hmm thats strange...
[01:04] <azrael0> zsh: You're sure this is an nvidia card? It didn't come from ebay or something?
[01:04] <zsh> azrael0, yes, it works on windows
[01:04] <azrael0> And it identifies itself as nVidia on windows?
[01:04] <zsh> yes
[01:05] <mikearthur> zsh: define "works"
[01:05] <likwidtek_> zsh, is it pci or agp?
[01:05] <zsh> agp
[01:05] <zsh> likwidtek_, agp
[01:05] <zsh> azrael0, works,as in i have 3d accelaration
[01:06] <likwidtek_> zsh, when you go into device manager in windows it shows it as an nvidia card?
[01:06] <azrael0> zsh: One last thing to check, lsmod | grep agp
[01:06] <nikin> likwi.. what kind of card do oyu have?
[01:06] <zsh> likwidtek_, yes
[01:06] <likwidtek_> nikin, radeon mobility 9600 m10
[01:06] <zsh> azrael0, intel_agp              21276  1
[01:06] <zsh> agpgart                32328  1 intel_agp
[01:06] <likwidtek_> ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[01:06] <whadar> !casper
[01:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about casper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:07] <azrael0> zsh: Sorry, then I don't know. Your AGP is enabled, but it's apparently getting the wrong code from your display adapter.
[01:07] <zsh> azrael0, cool, thanks i'll look around on google
[01:08] <zsh> likwidtek_, any more ideas
[01:09] <chemaja> okay, let's approach this from a different angle... can a couple of people pretty-please pastebin me the output of `dumpe2fs -h /dev/whatever' for the device of their Ubuntu install's root filesystem. Please do this ONLY IF the Ubuntu installer fully handled partitioning/formatting for you, and you're running Ubuntu Dapper Drake. Thanks!!
[01:09] <chemaja> yes, i'm a perfectionist :P
[01:09] <krompi> hello, i have a gigabyte K8NE Motherboard with nForce4 chipset I am know downloading drivers on http://www.gigabyte.de/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=1958. My problem: i don't know which LAN-Drivers I have ti download? what 'nvidia ck804' means?
[01:10] <nikin> likwidtek_ so you have right :(
[01:10] <chemaja> *sighs* -- come on pleeeease... there's got to be some nice smart people lurking :D
[01:10] <mikearthur> chemaja: I'm smart, so I did my own partitioning ;)
[01:11] <mikearthur> sorry
[01:11] <zsh> azrael0, check out my xorg.conf, just incase you find anything out of place http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19379
[01:11] <chemaja> mikearthur: yea, same here. but i want manually formatted root fs to be what Ubuntu expects it to be, hence this question.
[01:12] <azrael0> zsh: Wow. Your problem is relatively simple then.
[01:12] <azrael0> Change Driver "sis" to "nvidia"
[01:12] <chemaja> aah screw it i'll DIY
[01:12] <azrael0> Assuming it's actually an nvidia card, a restart of the xserver will work.
[01:12] <chemaja> ciao
[01:13] <azrael0> zsh: (and will display the nvidia logo)
[01:13] <zsh> azrael0, hrm, ok
[01:13] <frogzoo> that was wierd - hundreds of ICMP per second, the moment I did a traceroute back, they stopped...
[01:13] <frogzoo> ICMP redirects...
[01:14] <zsh> azrael0, changing the driver yet it doesnt really *recognise* wont mess things up
[01:14] <frogzoo> I'm assuming linux these days just bins remote ICMP redirects?
[01:14] <krompi> do anyon eknows what 'NVIDIA ck804' mean?????
[01:14] <CarinArr> seems strange that ubuntu would think it was an SiS card if it's not..
[01:14] <chemaja> frogzoo: i assume "no" -- it's a firewall policy.
[01:15] <CarinArr> krompi, where do you see that?
[01:16] <whadar> can i install package from edgy while using dapper?
[01:16] <elkbuntu> whadar, technically, yes. but dont be surprised if it breaks
[01:17] <frogzoo> chemaja: it shouldn't be, there's an rfc that says icmp redirects should only come from local subnet & be ignore otherwise - to stop the redirect sploits
[01:18] <whadar> elkbuntu: i want to install casper from edgy... but i see it only in tar.gz...
[01:18] <chemaja> frogzoo: O RLY
[01:18] <frogzoo> chemaja: true story
[01:18] <chemaja> frogzoo: can't you check via /proc or something?
[01:18] <whadar> what's the edgy repository?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> whadar, are you getting the package from the edgy repositories, or from somewhere else?
[01:19] <whadar> elkbuntu: ok i found it...
[01:19] <marbel> i have a wlan karte with speed boster, does it work with ubuntu?
[01:20] <chemaja> i *know* i'll regret it when Gnome 2.16 hits the shelves and i'm still on Dapper :( but OTOH, Dapper Universe rocks...    /me ponders
[01:20] <RustyJames> are there known problems with the kernel image 2.6.15-26-386 in dapper concerning usb ? cause it wouldnt detect/mount my usb-stick and doesnt load the firmware of my dvb-t stick. both work with the 2.6.15-25
[01:20] <FurryNemesis> marbel, what card?
[01:20] <marbel> linksys
[01:20] <FurryNemesis> marbel, should be fine
[01:20] <marbel> really?
[01:20] <eeos> hi there. Anyone with experience of using skype on ubuntu for AMD64
[01:20] <marbel> ok
[01:21] <whadar> can i install a package from edgy and then revert to dapper?
[01:22] <gsuveg> anyone use cryptsetup?
[01:22] <frogzoo> chii: good call: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/accept_redirects /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/secure_redirects & these are NOT disabled by default!! o.O
[01:23] <Arafangion> eeos: At worst, you'll have to setup a 32-bit chroot
[01:23] <Arafangion> eeos: Speaking generically.
[01:23] <eeos> Arafangion: I never heard of it
[01:24] <eeos> Arafangion: is there a way without using this technology?
[01:24] <eeos> Arafangion: and how do you set up this 32-bit root?
[01:25] <Arafangion> eeos: I've never done it, to be honest.
[01:25] <J_P> hi all
[01:26] <Arafangion> eeos: However, while your AMD64 system can execute 32-bit code, those apps still need access to 32-bit libs.
[01:26] <eeos> Arafangion: how do you solve that? are there emulation libraries?
[01:26] <Arafangion> eeos: 64-bit "pure" distros (The traditional unix/linux method) support 64-bit easily - but often don't have 32-bit userspaces.
[01:26] <Arafangion> eeos: Not emulation.
[01:27] <Arafangion> eeos: Think of it as "You have a system that can execute 32-bit AND 64-bit apps at the same time, however, your OS only has 64-bit tools, you still need 32-bit tools to support the 32-bit programs"./
[01:27] <eeos> Arafangion: how do you create this 32 bit user spaces?
[01:28] <Arafangion> eeos: Now, Ubuntu may well already have the 32-bit userspace (as it is called), but most 64-bit systems don't.
[01:28] <eeos> Arafangion: do they work even if the libraries are 64 bit?
[01:28] <Arafangion> eeos: A 32-bit program requires 32-bit libraries, that is the central issue.
[01:28] <eeos> Arafangion: how do I discover if ubuntu has the 32 bit user space?
[01:29] <Chousuke> Easiest way out is probably to install the 32-bit Ubuntu
[01:29] <Arafangion> Chousuke: But you probably loose the 64-bit support.
[01:29] <Chousuke> yes, but would that matter?
[01:29] <Chousuke> it works on AMD64
[01:29] <eeos> Chousuke: can't, do not want to loose 64 bit suport
[01:29] <shinobi2> gxine have no sound, any idea to fix this?
[01:30] <mwe> what are .la and .a files?
[01:30] <Arafangion> eeos: Do you have a /lib64, or /usr/lib64 ?
[01:30] <Chousuke> eeos: what would you lose? do you have more than 4GB of memory?
[01:30] <eeos> Arafangion: wait, I look for them
[01:30] <shinobi2> any tools to translate a string "abc" into hex code?
[01:31] <Chousuke> hm
[01:31] <eeos> Arafangion: yes i do have lib64, but I also have lib32!
[01:31] <Chousuke> shinobi2: look up ascii codes. :P
[01:31] <eeos> Arafangion: as well as /usr/lib32
[01:31] <Chousuke> shinobi2: or you could make one yourself, I think.
[01:31] <Arafangion> eeos: Some systems "tack on" 64-bit support, by having separate /lib64 and/or /usr/lib64 directories, while other systems are setup in a more traditional "Let's be completely 64-bit, but also allow 32-bit apps via a 32-bit chroot".
[01:31] <eeos> Arafangion: what should I do now?
[01:32] <k31th> wat can i use to bench mark a system? some thing like sis soft sandra but for linux ?
[01:32] <k31th> or shall i just use memtest
[01:32] <Arafangion> eeos: Ok, now you just need to figure out how to ensure that you have all the 32-bit libs that The program expects, and that it is calling the _correct_ libs, unfortunately I can't help you here.
[01:32] <Arafangion> k31th: You USE IT.
[01:32] <Arafangion> k31th: All "benchmarks" liek.
[01:32] <Arafangion> *lie
[01:32] <k31th> this box keeps kernel panicing need to test it for hardware faults wats the best thing to use
[01:32] <FifaFrazer> how can i configure my soundcard with alsa?
[01:33] <eeos>  Arafangion: how does the chroot 32 bit thing you were talking about?
[01:33] <Arafangion> eeos: The chroot no-longer applies to you.
[01:33] <k31th> hello ?
[01:33] <eeos>  Arafangion: why?
[01:33] <longwave> k31th: try memtest86 first, that will help you figure out if the ram is bad or not
[01:33] <shinobi2> Chousuke: i am looking for a utility to do that
[01:33] <Arafangion> eeos: Because your system attempts to support both natively.
[01:33] <longwave> k31th: but if it's the cpu, motherboard or power supply causing intermittent faults it is hard to diagnose from software alone, swapping parts is easiest
[01:33] <k31th> longwave: im pretty sure its not the ram giving me a kernel panic
[01:34] <longwave> k31th: well, have you run memtest? you can never be sure
[01:34] <k31th> yes i ran it
[01:34] <k31th> but only for 5 mins
[01:34] <eeos>  Arafangion: should I install teh 32 bit libraries the system needs?
[01:34] <Arafangion> eeos: Unfortunately, it goes against nearly all history - Linux has supported 64-bit for a very long time - supporting 32-bit as well as 64-bit is much more recent.
[01:34] <k31th> maybe ill leave it running for a bit
[01:34] <longwave> k31th: let it run for an entire pass of all the tests
[01:34] <Arafangion> eeos: Yes, but please check out the forums.
[01:34] <k31th> ok//
[01:34] <eeos>  Arafangion: I would rather have a go at the user space thing
[01:34] <eeos>  Arafangion: whee can I find more information baout the user space approach?
[01:35] <Arafangion> eeos: Try the forums.
[01:35] <eeos>  Arafangion: yes I am reading them now. Talk to you later. Thanks a lot.
[01:37] <zsh> azrael0, the change crashed x
[01:37] <mwe> aren't .a and .la files only needed if you compile things?
[01:38] <zsh> azrael0, can i use my windows drivers using wine or something
[01:38] <Arafangion> zsh: Only in very, very special situations.
[01:39] <Arafangion> zsh: Generally, no.
[01:39] <zsh> Arafangion, my video card has refused all other methods
[01:39] <Arafangion> zsh: You can't with video card drivers.
[01:40] <Arafangion> zsh: Which card?
[01:40] <zsh> Arafangion, nvidia geforce 4 mx440
[01:40] <Arafangion> zsh: That works fine on Linux.
[01:40] <Arafangion> zsh: Get the NVidia linux drivers.
[01:41] <CarinArr> it sounds very very strange
[01:41] <zsh> Arafangion, i've tried that it didnt work
[01:41] <CarinArr> arafangion, his ubuntu reckons it's an SiS card though
[01:41] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Very odd.
[01:41] <Arafangion> zsh: Are you _sure_ it's an NVidia Geforce 4 mx440?  I use NVidia here.
[01:42] <dmitri> hello, does anyone know of a good/easy to use disk encryption package for dapper?
[01:42] <zsh> Arafangion, i'm sure
[01:42] <Arafangion> zsh: I am currently using: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[01:42] <Arafangion> zsh: With no fancy tricks.
[01:42] <Arafangion> zsh: Plays 3D games very well.
[01:42] <zsh> Arafangion, well, i'll be damned
[01:43] <Arafangion> zsh: What does 'lspci' say about your card?
[01:43] <zsh> Arafangion, it works fine on windows
[01:43] <Arafangion> zsh: I don't care about windows.
[01:43] <CarinArr> heh
[01:44] <zsh> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[01:44] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Windows is installed on this machine - but hasn't run for...  about a year :)
[01:44] <Arafangion> zsh: Then, I am willing to bet my money that you do not have an nVidia GeForce4 MX 440
[01:44] <eeve55646> moi
[01:44] <eeve55646> mmooiii
[01:44] <zsh> Arafangion, i'm not crazy man
[01:45] <eeve55646> hi
[01:45] <CarinArr> arafangion, hah, yeah.. similar thing here.. managed to wipe my windows installation and only realised two months later
[01:45] <Arafangion> zsh: Does it work with the 'nv' driver?
[01:45] <eeve55646> finland rulez
[01:45] <zsh> Arafangion, i havent tried yet, lemme see
[01:45] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Literally the only reason why I still run windows on my laptop is because I am required to do System.Windows.Forms programming in Visual Studio 2005 at uni.
[01:46] <finalbeta> How do I make beagle index everything? searchpath is set to root, but it can't seems to find the files on my desktop
[01:46] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Though, incidently, I can't get dapper to reliably standby, though Breezy was fine.
[01:46] <eeve55646> yeah
[01:46] <zsh> Arafangion, i run windows 4 the same reason
[01:46] <CarinArr> i kept the install for some of the graphics apps you don't get on linux.. but haven't had time to use any of them for months now
[01:46] <Arafangion> zsh: If you have an nvidia card, it _WILL_ work using the nv driver, though you will not have 3d accel.
[01:46] <mof> ...speaking of cards can anyone tell me how to configure simultaneous playback and recording? here's a link to my .soundrc file http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomemeeting-list/2005-December/msg00227.html
[01:47] <eeve55646> windows vs linux
[01:47] <Arafangion> eeve55646: Not interested, go away.
[01:47] <Arafangion> eeve55646: We only talk Ubuntu here.
[01:47] <CarinArr> i've had my laptop freeze a few times when it's been on for long periods of time since i installed dapper, but to be honest i don't know if it's down to dapper or if it's just my laptop being on its last legs
[01:47] <zsh> Arafangion, then whats the point. it works fine now even though it thinks its an sis, but i dont have accelaration
[01:48] <Arafangion> zsh: The only reason why I would bother using the proprietary drivers is for 3D accel.
[01:48] <Arafangion> zsh: Which I happen to need, as I'm diong OpenGL programming this semester :)
[01:48] <dribble> CarinArr, I get random lockups on my laptop w/dapper
[01:49] <CarinArr> dribble, what make/model?
[01:49] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I actually find Debian to work better, but Ubuntu has a _much_ more desktop-friendly cultural environment.
[01:49] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I've yet to have a single Ubuntu system upgrade reliabily, for instance.
[01:49] <dribble> CarinArr, it's ooold.  Sony Vaio - pcg-9D6L.
[01:49] <eeve55646> paskat
[01:49] <CarinArr> arafangion, i haven't used debian since erm.. potato? pretty long time ago;) i've not had any problems with ubuntu really apart from these random freezes lately
[01:50] <zsh> Arafangion, come to think of it i had the same problem on windows initially but after installing the drivers that came with the card it worked, but it didnt work with any of the drivers that i downladed from the nvidia site
[01:50] <zsh> Arafangion, wierd!
[01:50] <Arafangion> zsh: Ok, it's not a real NVidia card.
[01:50] <blinker> ugh, is it a common or regular thing to have to rebuild sources.list like this?
[01:50] <zsh> Arafangion, what??
[01:50] <zsh> Arafangion, i paid alot of money for it...
[01:51] <dribble> I prefer Ubuntu to Debian primarily because of the active ubuntu community and generally 'friendly' attitude towards the desktop.
[01:51] <Arafangion> dribble: Same.
[01:51] <CarinArr> zsh, if it doesn't work with drivers from nvidias site there's something decidedly dodgy about it..
[01:51] <CarinArr> zsh, you should open the box up, look for the serial no and ask nvidia about it
[01:51] <blinker> dribble: word
[01:51] <Arafangion> zsh: Also, my NVidia card was the *cheapest nvidia I could find*, several years ago.
[01:51] <shamblingform> hi
[01:51] <blinker> most other linux chan's are pretty full of self involved elitists
[01:51] <zsh> CarinArr, i bought it new, in a sealed box
[01:51] <dribble> and in moving from debian -> gentoo -> ubuntu.  wow, i'd forgotton how fast package management is with apt.
[01:52] <blinker> one thing i definitely noticed change when i came here
[01:52] <eeve55646> mmm
[01:52] <gleep_> can i burn an ubuntu iso in a cd and boot from it?
[01:52] <zsh> Arafangion, same here the rest were too expensive
[01:52] <gleep_> err, on a dvd
[01:52] <CarinArr> zsh, i maintain there's something dodgy about it if you can't use nvidias own drivers with it, and it's extremely weird that it would be recognised as an SiS card
[01:52] <shamblingform> q: how do I change the the default OS startup?
[01:53] <Arafangion> zsh: Also, NVidia practically makes it a business case that they support ALL their cards with the same big fat binary driver.
[01:53] <zsh> CarinArr, during boot up though it displays that its an nvidia
[01:53] <longwave> shamblingform: change the "default" entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <gleep_> is ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso a livecd?
[01:53] <jrib> shamblingform: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, there is a line that begins "default" and then has a number.  The number corresponds to the default OS (counting starts at 0)
[01:53] <zsh> gleep_, yeh
[01:53] <longwave> gleep_: yes
[01:53] <shamblingform> longwave & jrib thankyou
[01:53] <gleep_> great, thanks
[01:54] <CarinArr> we have to run suse on our work machines, but after 6 months of them failing to install the nvidia drivers for my nvidia quadro fx card i managed to convince them to let me manage it by myself, slapped ubuntu on it, nvidia drivers work excellently
[01:54] <longwave> where do you work that runs linux on the desktop, if you don't mind me asking?
[01:54] <Arafangion> I just wish that Ubuntu could be nicer with my ATI proprietary driver installation :(
[01:54] <zsh> CarinArr, i'll just have to buy another card then.
[01:54] <CarinArr> a university;)
[01:54] <longwave> ah ok :)
[01:55] <Arafangion> CarinArr: My uni runs nearly exclusively windows XP :(
[01:55] <zsh> CarinArr, Arafangion, thanks guys for all the help :)
[01:55] <CarinArr> computer science department, so anyone that runs windows ends up being hassled into switching sooner or later;)
[01:55] <Arafangion> CarinArr: It's a MS shop here.
[01:55] <Arafangion> CarinArr: It's all Windows this, Visual Studio That, MSN this, MS Office that, etc.
[01:56] <zsh> Arafangion, same here, i might be the only one in the whole country running ubuntu right now
[01:56] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Heck, I once lost marks on an assignment for using "Non-standard fonts", I rendered the damn report using LaTeX!
[01:57] <shamblingform> longwave, jrib, I cannot save menu.lst. Should I sudo it?
[01:57] <CarinArr> arafangion, hahahahaha
[01:57] <zsh> Arafangion, haha
[01:57] <CarinArr> arafangion, is this a computer science department?
[01:57] <GaiaX11> What do I need to do to automount floppy and cdrom as soon as I insert them in their drivers?
[01:57] <jrib> shamblingform: yeah, use 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' or 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:57] <longwave> shamblingform: yes, you need to be root to edit that file
[01:57] <shamblingform> ta
[01:57] <zsh> GaiaX11, you cant out mount a floppy
[01:57] <zsh> *auto
[01:58] <shamblingform> all sorted, thanks again
[01:58] <dmitri> hello, can anyone recommend a gui hard disk crypto software for ubuntu, please
[01:58] <GaiaX11> zsh: Is this a command line?
[01:58] <CarinArr> we try to push all our firstyears into using latex for all their reports.. easier said than done, but once you get them converted they love it
[01:59] <azrael0> CarinArr: What university is this?
[01:59] <CarinArr> azrael0, univeristy of bath (uk)
[01:59] <azrael0> Ah.
[01:59] <zsh> GaiaX11, i dont think you can automount a floppy, i stand corrected though
[01:59] <Arafangion> CarinArr: No.
[01:59] <azrael0> Also, the referencing system and math system in Latex saves so much time.
[01:59] <Arafangion> CarinArr: It's the Engineering in Software Engineering department.
[02:00] <whadar> is there a graphical non-cli diff program?
[02:00] <CarinArr> if they start using latex early you're saved having to read dissertations typeset with 16pt arial font with double line space
[02:00] <Arafangion> whadar: What's the point?
[02:00] <jrib> whadar: does gvimdiff count?
[02:00] <whadar> Arafangion: find changes to scritps...
[02:00] <CarinArr> arafangion, still would think they'd promote latex for that sort of subject.. how do they normally do formulae and stuff?!
[02:01] <Mr_Magic> you can learn Latex within 7 minutes
[02:01] <CarinArr> well.. depends how picky you are about how you want it to look
[02:01] <azrael0> Mr_Magic: Probably fewer if you know a programming language and can understand syntax easy.
[02:01] <whadar> jrib: dunno it... cant find it in ubuntu...
[02:01] <kingping> #san_fernando
[02:02] <Arafangion> CarinArr: My Web design tutor didn't even know that Apache was a web server.
[02:02] <jrib> whadar: it gets installed with a vim gui package, I have vim-gnome
[02:02] <CarinArr> ack heh
[02:02] <zsh> Arafangion, haha
[02:02] <jrib> whadar: have you used vim before though?
[02:03] <azrael0> Arafangion: Don't tell me he was having you use asp instead of php.
[02:03] <plaes> any rosetta guys here?
[02:03] <Arafangion> zsh: My response was "It's only the most popular webserver in the world".
[02:03] <Arafangion> azrael0: Nah, we didn't have to use asp, unfortunately.
[02:03] <zsh> Arafangion, haha
[02:03] <Arafangion> azrael0: We used ASP.NET 2003.
[02:03] <whadar> jrib: only a little
[02:03] <Arafangion> zsh: He didn't believe me :(
[02:03] <azrael0> Arafangion: Geh. That sounds annoying. PHP is nice.
[02:03] <Arafangion> azrael0: PHP is very nice indeed.
[02:03] <jrib> whadar: k, just wanted to make sure you understood the basics of vim :)
[02:04] <zsh> Arafangion, you should have him fired. thats being too ignorant
[02:04] <CarinArr> poor Arafangion
[02:04] <whadar> jrib: the editor has diff features?
[02:05] <Arafangion> whadar: All decent editors.
[02:05] <jrib> whadar: yes, you can try vimdiff in the cli if you want
[02:05] <Arafangion> whadar: Such as vim.
[02:05] <Keddie> Got a little problem hopefully someone will be able to assist with. Everytime I reboot I have to manually go into networking and deactivate and activate my connection to be able to get online. How can I fix it so that it will work right after a restart?
[02:05] <whadar> Arafangion: does gedit has?
[02:05] <azrael0> Keddie: Is this wireless or wired?
[02:05] <Keddie> wired
[02:05] <Keddie> eth0
[02:06] <Arafangion> Keddie: Using dhcp?
[02:06] <whadar> gedit diff would be ideal for me...
[02:06] <Keddie> Arafangion: yes
[02:06] <GaiaX11> zsh: If I cannot automount floppy, does it mean that I can automount cdrom's? If so, do I need a packages called autofs?
[02:06] <azrael0> Hrm. Then I don't know. I had the same thing happen to me with wireless, and I found that deactivating it manually, then re-enabling through the panel fixed it.
[02:06] <azrael0> i.e. it went auto after that.
[02:06] <GaiaX11> zsh: I am in gnome
[02:07] <zsh> GaiaX11, yeah, works on my box. i dunno about autofs, lemme check
[02:07] <Keddie> is it possible it activates too soon?
[02:07] <Mr_Magic> Keddie: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[02:07] <zsh> !autofs
[02:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about autofs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:07] <bjp> hi guys, anyone familiar with fglrx drivers for Ubuntu?
[02:08] <longwave> !anyone
[02:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:09] <Keddie> !pastebin
[02:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:09] <bjp> longwave: I'm sorry, let's start over :)
[02:09] <sri_> ubotu, how to join to banned chanel
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about how to join to banned chanel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <whadar> hmm fldiff seems to be nice...
[02:10] <whadar> why sometimes when a new graphical software is installed, i cant see it in the menu?
[02:11] <jrib> whadar: because it doesn't have a .desktop file, you should file a bug on it, if you don't mind
[02:11] <bjp> I have updated to the new Ubuntu kernel, that comes with Edgy. I'm running Edgy right now, but with the precompiled kernel. Since this last kernel update, I can't start X anymore with the fglrx accelleration driver. I've tried to build a new one, but to build it I got to have a compiled kernel source directory (/usr/bin/linux). After I've build a new one, I got the error message '
[02:11] <Keddie> Arafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19385
[02:11] <jrib> !edgy
[02:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:11] <bjp> .. 'chdir' not found when booting this kernel
[02:12] <bimberi> whadar: yes, unfortunately not all gui apps add menu items :/ - yes file a bug - but in the meantime you can create an entry via Applications -> Edit Menus
[02:12] <bjp> jrib: it's not really an edgy question.. is has to do with the kernel building for ubuntu systems, as this were a problem on Dapper as well..
[02:12] <zsh> GaiaX11, ubuntu doesnt auto mount a cd for you?
[02:13] <whadar> bimberi: edit menus? where is it?
[02:13] <Arafangion> Keddie: That must be your /etc/networks/interfaces file, that looks good.
[02:13] <Keddie> Arafangion: yes that's it
[02:14] <npster> Why xfmedia doesn't play .mp3 files ? Do I need to download files ?
[02:14] <Keddie> Arafangion: is there a script that will deactivate and activate the connection
[02:14] <bimberi> whadar: right-click on the Ubuntu Logo (top left)
[02:14] <Arafangion> Keddie: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[02:15] <ian> Question: Anyone here familiar with Nessus?
[02:15] <Mr_Magic> Keddie: how may interfaces do you have on your system?
[02:15] <Keddie> Arafangion: where would I put that
[02:15] <Keddie> Mr_Magic: just one
[02:16] <zsh> GaiaX11, try /etc/init.d/hotplug start
[02:16] <gleep_> does ubuntu use sysv or bsd bootscripts? does it use the s23 and k23 stuff?
[02:16] <GaiaX11> zsh: I have checked now. It does. I think that You are right about not mounting floppies, but only cd's. Many thanks :-)
[02:16] <ian> Question: Anyone here familiar with Nessus or willing to help a semi-n00b with a relatively simple compiling issue?
[02:17] <zsh> GaiaX11, np
[02:17] <longwave> gleep_: yes, sysv, so it has the rcX.d directories and the Sxx/Kxx scripts
[02:17] <azrael0> Keddie: you could put it in /etc/rc.local
[02:17] <ian> Question: Anyone here familiar with Nessus or willing to help a semi-n00b with a relatively simple compiling issue?
[02:17] <[cro] smiley> 
[02:17] <[cro] smiley> TimeSaver project needs testers -> http://timesaver.sourceforge.net
[02:17] <[cro] smiley> 
[02:17] <npster> Why Xfmedia doesn't play .mp3 files ???
[02:17] <longwave> ian: ask your compiling question
[02:18] <azrael0> Keddie:The file may not exist. If it doesn't, make sure to start it with #!/bin/sh -e and end it with exit 0. Place the networking restart in between.
[02:18] <finalbeta> Ubuntu seems to want to check filesystems after 20 mounts. I just had to wait over half an houre to boot. That's unexaptable. Why this behaviour?
[02:18] <zsh> !ask
[02:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:18] <Keddie> azrael0: will that restart the interface after it loads?
[02:18] <azrael0> That will restart the interface at every runlevel.
[02:18] <azrael0> So to answer your question... yes.
[02:19] <ian> longwave: Nessus version 3.0.3 from corp site has debian DL.  I DL'd and installed.  Now I would like GUI front-end for it (which it says it has but I don't see a debian version)
[02:19] <Arafangion> Keddie: It's executed automatically at boot time.
[02:19] <Arafangion> Keddie: Essentially.
[02:19] <Mr_Magic> Keddie: well if you just have one interface, comment everyting after the lines with eth0 in
[02:19] <ian> longwave: Even though Nessus 3.0.3 that I DL'd comes for Debian..Anyway, The front-end I DL's was labeled "source code"...
[02:19] <npster> WHY XFMEDIA DOESN'T PLAY .MP3 ???
[02:19] <longwave> finalbeta: that's just the way it's set up, by default you can change it with "sudo tune2fs -c 0 /dev/hda" if you never want /dev/hda to be checked on boot
[02:19] <ian> longwave: So I need to compile it now..
[02:20] <zsh> npster, do you have the libs
[02:20] <npster> zsh: don't know
[02:20] <longwave> !compiling
[02:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:20] <ian> longwave: The only doc with instructions I can find says in filename "install" to type "./configure && make && make install" if you are lazy...
[02:20] <npster> zsh: Where do I download them ?
[02:21] <zsh> npster, lemme get you a url u can use
[02:21] <npster> zsh: ok
[02:21] <ian> longwave: But that's not a recognizable command in bash....
[02:21] <ian> longwave: Any thoughts?
[02:21] <bimberi> finalbeta: it is good practice though - but yes it would be good to be able to delay the check (and be nagged perhaps)
[02:21] <Arafangion> ubotu: non-free
[02:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about non-free - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:21] <Keddie> one more question, since it starts with "sudo", will it ask for a password to run?
[02:21] <longwave> ian: how did the source code arrive, in a .tar.gz? have you unpacked it?
[02:21] <finalbeta> bimberi, ok for /, but for other partitions I should be possible to do this once booted?
[02:22] <Arafangion> Keddie: You missunderstand sudo.
[02:22] <ian> longwave: Yeah, tarballed.
[02:22] <Keddie> so ake out sudo
[02:22] <Keddie> take
[02:22] <longwave> ian: when you've untarred it, cd into the directory that it creates and do "./configure" on its own
[02:22] <bimberi> finalbeta: yes, if the can be unmounted
[02:22] <bimberi> *they
[02:22] <ian> longwave: I'm looking at the untarred directory now.
[02:22] <longwave> ian: "./configure" is a script that comes with most source packages to set it up for your system
[02:22] <Arafangion> Keddie: Sudo is a program that "switch user"'s you to root, then runs the respective command.
[02:22] <azrael0> Keddie: Yes, take out the sudo. That's in an initscript, so it's being run as superuser already.
[02:23] <ian> longwave: So "sudo ./configure" will set it up?
[02:23] <Arafangion> azrael0: Why are you getting him to put it into the initscripts - IT IS ALREADY an initscript.
[02:23] <longwave> ian: ./configure sets it up, then "make" builds it then "make install" installs it
[02:23] <longwave> ian: you only need sudo for the "make install" part
[02:23] <sri_> can any one tell what is a module?
[02:23] <npster> What is Nano; when I type sudo nano it opens a text editor but in terminal or similar ?
[02:24] <ian> longwave: I get an error when using ./configure...
[02:24] <Arafangion> And in the offchance that it isn't, "update-rc.d add networking defaults" should do it.
[02:24] <longwave> ian: put the error in a pastebin
[02:24] <longwave> !pastebin
[02:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:24] <ian> longwave: Bueno, one sec.
[02:24] <jrib> npster: nano is a text editor for the terminal
[02:24] <npster> jrib: ok
[02:25] <ian> longwave: Ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19386
[02:25] <npster> where do I download the Xfmedia Libs ?
[02:25] <omer> Hello
[02:25] <sri_> he! i am banned in #bash since i am discussing on a prog to get the root password.....can any one tell how to join in it again??plz help me
[02:26] <longwave> ian: install the build-essential package with "sudo apt-get install build-essential", you need it for compiling things from source
[02:26] <omer> I need help with the net on my laptop
[02:26] <npster> sri_change your nick
[02:26] <npster> sri_: change your nick or address
[02:26] <zsh> npster, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-1340337f2ca1d0c54900935468515ba7630fcc59
[02:26] <longwave> ian: you may need some other packages too, but we will find that out next time you run ./configure
[02:26] <Keddie> Arafangion: azrael0 Mr_Magic, thx for your help
[02:27] <Arafangion> sri_: And evade bans often enough, you might just get a kline.
[02:27] <sri_> npster,k,
[02:27] <Keddie> anyone else running XGL?
[02:27] <omer> I have a wifi card (d_link) and I can't access to the my home network, and not to the internet. The same pronlem is in the Win 98 on this comp.
[02:27] <ian> longwave:  Doing it now.  When completed I should run configure one more time and if error returned pastebin result?
[02:27] <sri_> Arafangion, i did not nderstand u
[02:28] <Arafangion> sri_: A kline bans you from all that is freenode.
[02:29] <longwave> ian: yes, i can't guarantee to help you if it errors again but i can try :)
[02:29] <threat2> with quotas, do they only effect whole filesystems? or can you have a certain directory in a filesystem have a different quota then the rest of the filesystem?
[02:29] <sri_> Arafangion, how to getrid off;i am innocent
[02:29] <Arafangion> sri_: But, only freenode staff can give or lift klines - be warned, some channels are automatically setup to give them out.
[02:29] <Arafangion> sri_: I can believe that, but there's very little that can be done.
[02:29] <ian> longwave: I truly appreciate the help.  Even if it doesn't work. ;)  This channel is one of the main reasons I stayed with linux after converting to teh "light-side" (from XP)
[02:30] <ian> longwave: That and vastly superior product... ;)
[02:30] <npster> zsh:will this url do the same: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb  ???
[02:30] <longwave> threat2: i think that quotas are per-filesystem only, yes, but i'm not 100% sure
[02:30] <IdleOne> sri_, most channels will remove a ban after a couple hours or so.. best thing would be to just wait for the ban to be removed
[02:30] <zsh> lemme check
[02:30] <mjr> they are per-filesystem, yes
[02:31] <threat2> longwave, thank you for confirming what I already thought :P
[02:31] <sri_> IdleOne, oh!
[02:31] <runespy> hey i need some help... ok i have named an account the user name "root" and when i try to log into the main login screen it says admin cannot log in from that screen... how can i fix this???
[02:31] <ian> longwave: Do I need to apt-get that build essential every time I compile or is it a one time only deal?
[02:31] <longwave> threat2: i guess it would be possible to write a script that checks disk space used by a certain set of directories and run it from cron or something, if you wanted
[02:32] <IdleOne> ian, one time
[02:32] <Arafangion> ian: the package "essential" give syou all the essential compilation tools.
[02:32] <finalbeta> Anyone here using beagle? I've set the search path on /, but it doesn't find much, can't find files on my desktop etc
[02:32] <Mr_Magic> omer: can you give more information? you use the same wifi card for your win98 and ubuntu?
[02:32] <npster> Where do I download this plugin: totem-xine-firefox-plugin ???
[02:32] <longwave> ian: once you have a packaged installed it's there for good, unless you remove it again :)
[02:32] <MoonDuck> OT: i telnet to a network printer on port 9100 from an ubuntu box, i constantly get 'connection closed by remote host'. naturally cups doesn't work either. i go to a windows box, telnet works, and printing works.. im at a loss.
[02:32] <longwave> *package
[02:32] <azrael0> npster: Try easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[02:32] <mwe> npster: apt-get
[02:33] <mwe> !info totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[02:33] <ubotu> totem-xine-firefox-plugin: Totem Firefox Plugin - xine version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:33] <MWettendorff> HI.. anyone here that can tell me how i can install Ubuntu or Kubuntu over the web?? and how?
[02:33] <basvg> hmm, I finally got Ekiga to work... can anyone recommend a *win* tool for `the other party' (i.e., my friends abroad who are not running linux yet) ?
[02:33] <ian> longwave: That's what I thought.  I ran configure again and got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19388
[02:33] <mwe> npster: just enable universe and use synaptic to install it
[02:34] <ian> longwave: I assume "sudo apt-get install gtk+-2.0" ?
[02:34] <azrael0> ian: sudo apt-get install gtk+-2.0-dev
[02:34] <npster> mwe: How do I enable Universe ?
[02:35] <mwe> !universe > npster
[02:35] <longwave> ian: what azreal0 said, you need the -dev packages for a library when you are compiling from source
[02:35] <Vladaz> hello
[02:35] <mwe> npster: read /msg from ubotu
[02:35] <Vladaz> do you know any program that could work MSN on linux?
[02:35] <Vladaz> MSN is the chat from Microsoft
[02:35] <Chousuke> GAIM.
[02:35] <Vladaz> I've got Gaim
[02:35] <CarinArr> vladaz, gaim or amsn
[02:35] <ian> longwave: Says (when directly copy and pasted) can't find package...
[02:35] <Vladaz> but does it support webcams?
[02:35] <npster> mwe: I don't understand
[02:35] <prower> Gaim, Kopete, aMSN, etc.
[02:35] <Chousuke> Vladaz: not yet.
[02:35] <longwave> ian: hang on that might not be the exact package name in ubuntu, let me try and find it
[02:36] <Vladaz> which one supports webcams?
[02:36] <ian> longwave: Is there a repo that needs adding or is there a typo in line?
[02:36] <Arafangion> Kopete does, afaik.
[02:36] <MWettendorff> HI.. anyone here that can tell me how i can install Ubuntu or Kubuntu over the web?? and how?
[02:36] <mwe> npster: did you read the link ubotu sent you?
[02:36] <Vladaz> does kopete work under gnome?
[02:36] <mwe> Vladaz: yes
[02:36] <prower> MWettendorff: Not sure what you mean exactly...to install it you need to download an image, either a CD or DVD, burn it off and reboot
[02:36] <IdleOne> MWettendorff, I dont beleive you can
[02:36] <FloK> how do i start sshd ? Is there an init script? I have fresh 6,06 install.
[02:36] <Vladaz> ok thanks
[02:37] <MWettendorff> thanks. both of you.
[02:37] <Mr_Magic> MWettendorff: you mean booting from lan?
[02:37] <Zkillz|Admin> I forgot my root password (I've setted on manually), im using ubuntu server 5.10, kernel 2.6. I added init=/bin/sh on the bootparmanets, when trying to change my root password, I get an "authenication lock busy", any ideas?
[02:37] <mwe> Vladaz: it will use a somewhat large amount of ram due to loading the kdelibs though
[02:37] <longwave> ian: try "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev", i think that is the package you need
[02:37] <CarinArr> flok, if i'm not wrong it starts automatically with a fresh install, you just need to edit the config file
[02:37] <prower> FloK: If it's installed, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[02:37] <Buhu> Hello, I have a problem installing Ubuntu 6.06 if anyone can review my pastebin I would be grateful, its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19389   Thanks
[02:37] <Zkillz|Admin> Anyone ?
[02:37] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: is / mounted rw?
[02:38] <ian> longwave: Bueno.  It's working.
[02:38] <MWettendorff> Mr_Magic, no.. have been told that i can download a litle file (20-25mb) and then boot on that... it would then download the things i need over FTP
[02:38] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, I dunno. How do I do it? I'm a new guy into the linux stuff to be honest.
[02:38] <ian> longwave: Will try configure once again after that finishes...
[02:38] <Zkillz|Admin> Im in the promt atm, im logged in, but I dont know hwo to change the root password.
[02:38] <npster> mwe: now yes
[02:38] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: type mount it will show if it's mounted read/write
[02:38] <npster> mwe: thanks, ubotu u 2
[02:38] <Zkillz|Admin> ok, let me test, what do you need to know mwe ?
[02:38] <longwave> FloK: if sshd is not installed at all, install the openssh-server package
[02:39] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: if not add rw to the kernel boot line
[02:39] <Zkillz|Admin> on the end ?, just rw ?
[02:39] <longwave> is sshd actually installed by default in dapper? i can't remember
[02:39] <Zkillz|Admin> after init=/bin/sh - like init=/bin/sh rw ?
[02:39] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: yes and make sure ro is not there
[02:39] <azrael0> Bhu: Sounds like for some reason or other, grub didn't get get installed properly
[02:39] <[cro] smiley> 
[02:39] <[cro] smiley> Help me test TimeSaver - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1324716#post1324716
[02:39] <[cro] smiley> 
[02:39] <FloK> longwave, i have openssh-client installed but not sshd
[02:39] <Zkillz|Admin> ok mwe, so first I'll write mount and see if rw is there or not
[02:39] <azrael0> Buhu: Try booting back into the livecd, and doing a grub-install on your main drive.
[02:39] <Zkillz|Admin> brb going to the server room
[02:39] <longwave> FloK: openssh-server will give you sshd
[02:39] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: no
[02:39] <FloK> but apt-cache search ssh just finds only the client and askpass...
[02:40] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: you write mount and see if the / filesystem is mounted read-write or read-only
[02:40] <Buhu> azrael0 when I boot back into the livecd, I can't access or mount any of my disks even the partition where I installed Ubuntu
[02:40] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: (rw/ro)
[02:40] <shinobi3> for xterm how what's a valid parameter for this 'xterm -fn 9x19' so that the fonts are slightly bigger?
[02:41] <shinobi3> the terminal said i enter an invalid parameter
[02:41] <azrael0> Buhu: That seems odd. In that case, I don't know.
[02:41] <ian> longwave: What is "Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out"
[02:41] <mwe> shinobi3: I think you need a full fontname
[02:41] <mwe> shinobi3: use xfontsel to find one
[02:41] <FloK> ok anyway , cant update the pkg cache now, no direct inet access
[02:41] <ian> longwave: Followed by: "Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out"
[02:41] <longwave> ian: that means the server that holds security updates for packages could not be reached
[02:42] <longwave> ian: try the command again, security looks like it's working from here
[02:42] <ian> longwave: Sorry, followed by: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[02:42] <mwe> ian: it cannot fetch them if it can't reach the server
[02:43] <longwave> ian: you can try apt-get update, but if you've updated your package list recently it should be ok anyway
[02:43] <Ronz> quick question, i have a 5.1 sound card, but the back speakers dont want to work...anyone have an idea?
[02:43] <longwave> ian: just try the install command again, maybe the security server was down for a minute
[02:43] <ian> longwave mwe : It asks me if I wish to continue without verification... Never seen that before.
[02:43] <mwe> Ronz: play with alsamixer
[02:43] <mwe> ian: that's if you added a repo but not the gpg key
[02:44] <finalbeta> I've installed beagle, set the search path to /, now beagle doesn't index anything from my home folder. Help.
[02:44] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, I successfully changed the password.
[02:44] <jeico> i have extracted some files fom a .gz and i want ALL the subfolders and file to be owned by root and have read+execute permissions by ALL. how can i do this with a shell command??
[02:44] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: good
[02:44] <ian> mwe: I'm not certain how to add said key...
[02:44] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, can you do me a favour and ping something for me ,and see if you get a respons?
[02:44] <mwe> ian: what did you add to sources.list?
[02:44] <Zkillz|Admin> im on lan with the server, so i'll get an respons for sure...
[02:45] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: ok
[02:45] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, 213.136.41.100
[02:45] <ian> mwe : I just added all options on repo list for my distro (dapper) through gui.  No actual editing of the list.
[02:45] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: it's not responding. mabye the router of firewall is blocking it
[02:45] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, hmpfh. let me check again
[02:45] <longwave> ian: does it give you the key number of the packages that could not be verified?
[02:46] <gekko`> jeico: chmod -R 755 <folder>
[02:46] <mwe> ian: well it changes the file
[02:46] <ian> longwave mwe: It worked this time.  No E code.
[02:46] <longwave> ok, now to ./configure again :)
[02:46] <damian_> has anyone gotten plugger to work
[02:46] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: sudo iptables -L should show if iptables is blocking it
[02:46] <ian> longwave : Doing so. ;)
[02:46] <Zkillz|Admin> ok mwe, what should I look for?
[02:46] <finalbeta> I've installed beagle, set the search path to /, now beagle doesn't index anything from my home folder. Help.
[02:47] <Zkillz|Admin> it fails to synchroize the clock on startup.
[02:47] <jeico> gekko`: i think i used chown -R root:root * but that didn't work :(
[02:47] <Zkillz|Admin> and gives me loads of errors when trying to apt-get update.
[02:47] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: sudo iptables -L|grep -i icmp
[02:47] <Zkillz|Admin> oh hell
[02:47] <jeico> i think the permissions are fine but the ownership's not
[02:47] <Zkillz|Admin> let me dl putty for a second, 1sec
[02:47] <ian> longwave: Complete and w/o error.  Now "sudo make" followed by "sudo makeinstall" ?
[02:48] <longwave> just "make" on its own
[02:48] <longwave> then if that works, "sudo make install" to install it
[02:48] <gekko`> jeico: who should be the owner, root? then your command is right
[02:48] <mwe> I recommend using checkinstall
[02:48] <jeico> it's ok it worked ;)
[02:48] <jeico> thnx
[02:48] <mwe> so you can uninstall the program
[02:49] <longwave> mwe: probably a good idea, i am too used to the old way of doing things sometimes
[02:49] <ian> mwe : Was that checkinstall comment to me?
[02:49] <mwe> yeah
[02:49] <mwe> sec
[02:49] <mwe> brb
[02:49] <longwave> ian: if you use checkinstall to set it up, you will be able to uninstall it more easily later
[02:49] <ian> mwe: Is that a command line command?
[02:50] <longwave> ian: you need to install the "checkinstall" package
[02:50] <ian> mwe longwave: Something like "sudo checkinstall <name>" ?
[02:50] <longwave> ian: then when you've run the first make, use "sudo checkinstall" to make an ubuntu package that can be installed and uninstalled
[02:50] <Gh0sTly> Ive got some questions about Ubuntu5.10 and a G3 iMac
[02:51] <Zkillz|Admin> brb mwe
[02:51] <Gh0sTly> How do i get the CD to boot(for the Live Disk and for the Install disk)?
[02:51] <ian> longwave: No such command...
[02:51] <IdleOne> Gh0sTly, run/dont bother/get an old p3 and save yourself the headache
[02:51] <ian> longwave: Though make worked.
[02:51] <longwave> ian: "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[02:52] <IdleOne> Gh0sTly, reboot the imac and hold down the letter C
[02:52] <Gh0sTly> IdleOne  Ive got this old iMac that I want to install ubuntu till i get a copy of OSX
[02:52] <vlad1-away> dobar den
[02:52] <vlad1-away> Nqkoi moje li da mi dade to4en link za download ubuntu ?
[02:53] <IdleOne> Gh0sTly, holding down the letter C will make the Imac boot from CD
[02:53] <Gh0sTly> hmm
[02:53] <FloK> how does rcp work? do i need a server?
[02:53] <Gh0sTly> i tried that, didnt work.
[02:53] <vlad1-away> ?
[02:53] <vlad1-away> Nqkoi moje li da mi dade to4en link za download ubuntu ?
[02:53] <Gh0sTly> also...ive got a PC thats dual boot XP/ SUSE10.1
[02:53] <longwave> FloK: scp is more secure than standard rcp, scp needs an sshd at the remote end
[02:54] <IdleOne> Gh0sTly, it should work. put in the CD and reboot the machine hold the C till your cd boots up or you get the install screen for ubuntu
[02:54] <ian> longwave: Is "sudo checkinstall" a substitute for "sudo make install"?
[02:54] <longwave> ian: yes
[02:54] <jessid> hello. Sorry for this question, but I would like to know how to get an ip address from the name of a web site
[02:54] <jessid> thanks!
[02:54] <longwave> ian: instead of installing directly, it builds a package file with a .deb extension, then installs that
[02:54] <qos> jessid, ping it ...
[02:54] <IdleOne> jessid, try /dns pogo.com in this window
[02:54] <ian> longwave: So now that I've run it successfully, it should be ready to use.  Yes?
[02:55] <FloK> longwave, yeah but i just need to copy my former /etc dir so i can do ppp at home
[02:55] <longwave> ian: yes, i think so
[02:55] <FloK> here i cant install sshd
[02:55] <Arafangion> IdleOne: I warn you, while Ubuntu's unbelievably fast on those macs, making Mac OS X look like a pathetic slow bloated beast, the hardware support isn't as good.
[02:55] <Gh0sTly> ill try that...brb
[02:55] <damian_> jessid use nslookup
[02:55] <damian_> from the terminal
[02:55] <longwave> FloK: tar up /etc and copy it across another way?
[02:55] <Arafangion> IdleOne: It is also recommended NOT to mount the native partions in Ubuntu without a backup.
[02:55] <CarinArr> jessid, the command you're looking for is "nslookup"
[02:56] <damian_> said that
[02:56] <FloK> another way? what way longwave ? isnt rcp the simplest way?
[02:56] <CarinArr> damian was quicker;)
[02:56] <IdleOne> Arafangion, I know all about Imac and Ubuntu. I do not recommend it to anyone
[02:56] <damian_> lol
[02:56] <FloK> i get connection refused but i can ping
[02:56] <Dixon85> Can ayone help with installing mastershaper?
[02:56] <jessid> damian_ CarinArr thanks a lot!!!
[02:56] <Arafangion> IdleOne: Oh, wrong person :)
[02:56] <longwave> FloK: do you have sshd running on at least one of the computers?
[02:57] <IdleOne> Arafangion, :) no problem
[02:57] <longwave> FloK: if so, you should be able to run scp from a shell on the other computer
[02:57] <FloK> longwave, yes. how?
[02:57] <eljo__> i'm going crazy trying to get fglrx 8.27.10 to work with edgy... installation apparently worked, but gdm still fails with "ABI mismatch"
[02:57] <FloK> i need to copy from the box sshd runs on
[02:58] <Arafangion> IdleOne: Though, in apple's defense, Mac OS X is a damn nice OS, imho :)
[02:58] <CarinArr> flok "scp [username@] computer:/path/to/filetocopy [username@] computer:/path/to/copy/to
[02:58] <CarinArr> "
[02:58] <CarinArr> ;)
[02:58] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, I got no answer when typing iptables -L|grep -i icmp
[02:58] <longwave> FloK: "scp -r user@sshdbox:/etc ~/etc-backup" or something similar should work
[02:58] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: yes?
[02:58] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, no answer when doing that.
[02:58] <mwe> oh
[02:58] <damian_> I have a ssh question
[02:59] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: then it's not that I think
[02:59] <FloK> longwave, CarinArr i need it the other way, get it?
[02:59] <IdleOne> Arafangion, I like OSX also and I love Ubuntu I just dont like ubuntu on Imac . had alot of problems and wasnt able to get much help with it
[02:59] <eljo__> and trying to start gdm with radeon and without XGL just gives me a blank screen with a cursor on it
[02:59] <ian> mwe longwave: Thank you guys -so- much.  That worked.
[02:59] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe , can you try it again? in a second?
[02:59] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: does iptables -L even show any rules?
[02:59] <CarinArr> flok, er.. the other way?
[02:59] <damian_> how do you copy a file from an ssh server to your hard drive in an ssh session??
[02:59] <Zkillz|Admin> let me check
[02:59] <mwe> ian: yw
[02:59] <longwave> ian: no problem :D
[02:59] <FloK> TO the box where no sshd is installed
[02:59] <ian> mwe longwave: Wish there was an Ubuntu Mail-a-beer site for thank-yous. ;)
[02:59] <longwave> FloK: yeah, run that command in a shell on the box where there is no sshd
[02:59] <ian> mwe longwave: Have a good night.
[03:00] <mwe> ian: heh. you too
[03:00] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, yeah. It does.
[03:00] <Zkillz|Admin> output/forward/input
[03:00] <Zkillz|Admin> and then target opt or something familiar.
[03:00] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: but any actual rules?
[03:00] <CarinArr> flok, you can do that too.. if you're on the box with no sshd installed, you just do "scp user@machine_with_sshd:/path/to/file /path/where/you/want/it/locally"
[03:00] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, what should I look for?
[03:00] <CarinArr> what longwave just said;)
[03:01] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: for testing you could iptables -F that will disable all filtering
[03:01] <XplOzIon> how can i cange root pass for mysql? i been trieing mysqladmin -u root password "your-new-password"
[03:01] <imc_> Morning. Kernel Panic not syncing; VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)  - dapper. What can I do?
[03:01] <Zkillz|Admin> k, then reboot mwe ?
[03:01] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: did it just show a fe lines?
[03:01] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: don't reboot
[03:01] <Zkillz|Admin> try to ping the server again mwe, 213.136.41.100
[03:01] <Zkillz|Admin> yeah, mwe, a few lines.
[03:01] <longwave> XplOzIon: what error do you get when you try that?
[03:01] <FloK> CarinArr, longwave  great, thx. Forgot that this is also possible
[03:01] <Zkillz|Admin> I cant download putty on this computer atm, dont ask me why. we disabled downloading on our pcs.
[03:01] <mwe> it's probably not active the
[03:02] <frogzoo> imc_: you can try a backup superblock
[03:02] <Zkillz|Admin> any ideas? this has been working before.
[03:02] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: it's not responding. is your router forwarding the port to your host?
[03:02] <XplOzIon> longwave, im gettings this: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[03:02] <XplOzIon> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[03:02] <imc_> frogzoo - Uh, Great! Um, can you tell me how please?
[03:02] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: if not you're just pinging the router
[03:02] <Zkillz|Admin> Not sure mwe. It's een working before.
[03:02] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, Im new to these stuff, any default ip the router has?
[03:02] <mwe> oh
[03:02] <Zkillz|Admin> 255.255.255.255 ? or somtehing ?
[03:03] <montbazin> hi folks ---
[03:03] <Zkillz|Admin> its really been working before, kinda odd.
[03:03] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: your public ip is your router
[03:03] <Zkillz|Admin> or any way to like refresh the ip ?
[03:03] <montbazin> I have a little problem with Ubuntu. Each time I log in, some of the applications open two or 3 times.
[03:03] <Zkillz|Admin> huh mwe? - we own a internet-cafe, im just working here. kinda trying to fix the server.
[03:03] <Zkillz|Admin> we have 126 pcs, so what public ip? :P
[03:03] <XplOzIon> longwave, any idea?
[03:03] <montbazin> how can I avoid that ?
[03:03] <longwave> XplOzIon: i think that means there is already a root password set
[03:03] <npster> This still doesn't solve the problem; I can not get the link that ubotu sent me
[03:04] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: oh :)
[03:04] <XplOzIon> longwave, yes, but how do i change it? just for mysql
[03:04] <Zkillz|Admin> :P
[03:04] <Zkillz|Admin> mwe, can we talk in a special channel or something? like #blabla.ubuntu - highly appriciated.
[03:04] <longwave> XplOzIon: there are some instructions at mysql.com, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[03:04] <mwe> Zkillz|Admin: /j #mwe
[03:04] <CarinArr> surely if you want something to connect to the router from the inside you'd use the local ip..
[03:04] <longwave> XplOzIon: another user in this channel had problems following those a few days ago though, i don't know how accurate they are for ubuntu
[03:05] <XplOzIon> longwave, thanks ill check
[03:05] <XplOzIon> let you know the exact command to do so
[03:05] <longwave> XplOzIon: i would try the "Alternatively, on any platform, you can set the new password using the mysql client" set of instructions on that page first
[03:05] <srikat> how do I send a window in workspace 2 to workspace 1?
[03:06] <slow> shift ctrl alt
[03:06] <slow> right
[03:07] <frogzoo> imc_: on ext2 you use the -n option to mkfs.ext2 - so check the manpage for your file system & look for a -n option
[03:07] <FloK> ok i need to download some docs, only ubuntu specific stuff and apt howtos
[03:07] <imc_> Thanks frogzoo!
[03:07] <FloK> cant see any download link on ubuntu.com
[03:07] <imc_> frogzoo - except, I can't get any prompt at all, so where am I doing that>
[03:08] <montbazin> I have a little problem with Ubuntu. Each time I log in, some of the applications open two or 3 times.
[03:08] <montbazin> how can I avoid that ?
[03:08] <mbn_18> hello, what can i use from within the desktop to browse SMB shared folder ?
[03:08] <longwave> FloK: all the good docs are online in the wiki and on the forums
[03:08] <MatthewV> FloK, the ubuntu wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/) maybe?
[03:08] <MatthewV> FloK, or the Desktop Guide (System --> Help --> System Documentation)
[03:09] <longwave> montbazin: how did you make the applications open at startup in the first place?
[03:09] <frogzoo> imc_: is this a ext2/3 file system?
[03:09] <imc_> Yep
[03:09] <tomcatt> !ubotu usb
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:10] <tomcatt> !ubotu permissions
[03:10] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:11] <peter_> i am having problems with a 64 bit ubuntu beening able to read or copy dvd's i think i need to install the w32codec but it wont install on my comp can anyone help
[03:11] <frogzoo> imc_: it's actually pretty unlikely your bootblock is corrupted, it's more likely a grub misconfiguration
[03:12] <frogzoo> imc_: unfortunately, I have to shoot through about now
[03:12] <imc_> ah. This would be nicer, of course, frogzoo. Can you suggest some ways I might fix or how-tos?
[03:12] <imc_> Ah
[03:12] <imc_> thanks for the help though so far frogzoo
[03:13] <frogzoo> imc_: not dapper specific: take a look, & then google for something dapper relevant: http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/KB/AdminArecov3
[03:13] <imc_> Thanks so much. Have a great day/evening, frogzoo
[03:13] <frogzoo> imc_: just grab a bite, I might be around later, cheerio
[03:13] <montbazin> longwave: i clicked txice so it opened twice, and now i can't get rid of the double...
[03:13] <Mr_Magic> peter_ > !easyubuntu
[03:14] <fourat> any one know a good desktop-tray application for agregating rss feeds ?
[03:14] <fourat> something like akregator on KDE
[03:15] <peter_> Mr_Magic what is easyubuntu ?
[03:15] <amarokker> fourat: for gnome?
[03:15] <azrael0> !easyubuntu > peter_
[03:15] <fourat> amarokker, yes
[03:16] <srikat> !vnc server
[03:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about vnc server - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:16] <Mr_Magic> :-0
[03:16] <srikat> !vncserver
[03:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about vncserver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:16] <zugu> !vnc
[03:16] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[03:16] <Badm4n> is ubuntu breezy already support iptables with ROUTE command ?
[03:16] <amarokker> fourat: there's something called liferea - but i don't think there's an applet for it or status in tray.
[03:17] <Cren> bah, got disconnected...did anyone answer that?
[03:20] <longwave> Badm4n: not even edgy seems to have ipt_ROUTE, which is the module you need for that
[03:20] <shinobi2> what do i need to view shockwave?
[03:20] <bimberi> !shockwave
[03:20] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:20] <longwave> !shockwave
[03:20] <nexact_> !wmv
[03:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:21] <Badm4n> longwave : so what should i do ? i need to run iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth3 --dport 80 -j ROUTE -oif eth0 but its say : Bad argument `eth0'
[03:21] <derek> 
[03:21] <longwave> Badm4n: sorry, i know a bit of iptables, but not enough to help you there
[03:22] <Badm4n> ppl at #iptables told me that i must upgrade my kernel that support iptables with ROUTE
[03:22] <shinobi2> bimberi: all linux distros don't have shockwave? have to use wine?
[03:22] <Arafangion> derek: You may want to stick with English here.
[03:22] <bimberi> shinobi2: yes that's right :(
[03:23] <longwave> yeah, macromedia have not made a shockwave plugin for linux
[03:23] <Gh0sTly> ok, got some questions about this disk
[03:23] <derek> Arafangion,  haha sorry sorry ,
[03:24] <Arafangion> derek: Just for the record, that was chinese, wasn't it?
[03:24] <Gh0sTly> the disk comes up if i put it in the internal cd-rom as a PROdos disk and its unreadable
[03:24] <bimberi> !cn
[03:24] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:25] <derek> Arafangion, what's that record means?
[03:25] <Gh0sTly> but if i put it into my USB cd-rw then it shows upjust fine
[03:25] <k31th> Guys, is anyone else having problems with ubuntu 64 kernel panicing ?
[03:25] <Arafangion> derek: It is a figure of speech, referring to having a copy stored elsewhere so that other people can check :)
[03:26] <lhds> what is that free soft in linux that acts just like getright or eaven better?
[03:26] <derek> correct
[03:26] <shinobi2> anyone update the kernel to 2.6.15-26?
[03:26] <derek> Arafangion, correct
[03:26] <g1g4nt1c> yea shinobi2
[03:26] <Arafangion> derek: You were TESTING me?
[03:27] <Gh0sTly> ...
[03:27] <srikat> does anyone know if remote desktop via vnc works when compiz is running?
[03:27] <shinobi2> g1g4nt1c: how's that better?
[03:27] <azrael0> lhds wget
[03:27] <g1g4nt1c> dunno :p
[03:27] <Gh0sTly> I take it im not gonna get a response?
[03:27] <lhds> whats like getright?
[03:27] <derek> Arafangion, haha , no man !   just now i don't what's your mean
[03:27] <derek> Arafangion, where are you from ?
[03:27] <lhds> whats like getright?
[03:27] <shinobi2> is there a down grade kernel 2.4 for ubuntu?
[03:27] <Arafangion> derek: Well, right now, I figure that nothing matters, I'm off to bed :)  I'm from Australia.
[03:28] <derek> Arafangion, well , good place
[03:28] <Arafangion> derek: Indeed.
[03:28] <azrael0> lhds: The closest thing would be wget. man wget for more information.
[03:29] <srikat> does anyone know if remote desktop via vnc works when compiz is running?
[03:29] <shinobi2> can ubuntu install another desktop, i.e. kde, fluxbox
[03:29] <derek> Arafangion, haha
[03:29] <IcemanV9> yes, shinobi2
[03:29] <shinobi2> IcemanV9: how do i get kde desktop?
[03:29] <shawnr_> anyone use swiftfox?
[03:29] <samalex> hi everyone.  there's a program I see folks running on their desktop that shows system stats and other info.. I ran it years ago but for the life of me can't remember its name.
[03:29] <pchapman> shinobi2, yes.  just apt-get intall them
[03:29] <IcemanV9> shinobi2: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:29] <Arafangion> azrael0, lhds, A few years ago, I used axel, I haven't bothered with download managers for ages, though - just get a decent ISP.
[03:30] <derek> Arafangion, do you know the meannings of the chinese i type just now>
[03:30] <shawnr_> apt-get kde-deskop
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> has anyone else noticed that freeloader takes up 100% cpu time?
[03:30] <Arafangion> derek: The only language I know is English.
[03:30] <shawnr_> apt-get kde-desktop
[03:30] <longwave> samalex: was it gkrellm?
[03:30] <samalex> longwave: that's it, thanks :)
[03:30] <l1nux> hi
[03:30] <IcemanV9> fyi, there is no kde-desktop in repo
[03:30] <derek> Arafangion,  o k!   the words means i want looking for a software
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> its kubuntu-desktop
[03:30] <shinobi2> IcemanV9: cool, i i thought kubuntu and ubuntu are two different distros
[03:30] <shawnr_> oh yea
[03:31] <Zambezi> Anyone skilled on LUKS? I have bigproblems with a harddrive.
[03:31] <scr1lla> anyone has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 car?
[03:31] <derek> Arafangion,  the software i can play chinese chess
[03:31] <IcemanV9> shinobi2: not really, just different desktop (gnome and kde) 
[03:31] <shawnr_> IcemanV9, why don't you just search synaptic instead of asking in here
[03:31] <k31th> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will upgrade the kernel ?
[03:31] <Gh0sTly> anyone have any experiance ith Ubuntu 5.10 disks with MAC
[03:31] <k31th> or do i have to do a different command ?
[03:31] <azrael0> k31th: That and afterwards reboot.
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> k31th: assuming a new kernel is out, yet.
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> *yes
[03:31] <IcemanV9> shawnr_: i am telling you there IS no kde-desktop, okay. just kubuntu-desktop (kde)
[03:32] <shawnr_> Eight
[03:32] <Gh0sTly> when i put the disk in, it says that its a prodos disk
[03:32] <shawnr_> Right
[03:32] <Gh0sTly> if i put it into the internal cd-rom
[03:32] <shawnr_> im telling you just to search synaptic for "kde"
[03:32] <shawnr_> instead of ask in here
[03:32] <Gh0sTly> if i put it in the external cd-rw, it reads fine
[03:33] <Arafangion> derek: What is chinese chess like, compared to european chess?
[03:33] <shinobi2> swiftfox not from mozilla
[03:34] <longwave> Arafangion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiangqi
[03:35] <shinobi2> shawnr_: are you using swiftfox?
[03:35] <derek> Arafangion, the rule is differente
[03:35] <shawnr_> yup, just wondering who else is
[03:35] <Badm4n> does anyone here can help me with iptables ? i have problem but at #iptables no respond :(
[03:35] <derek> Arafangion,  but you know all chess have the same goal
[03:35] <shawnr_> Do you have to have firefox installed if you use swiftfox?
[03:36] <longwave> Badm4n: you might get a response if you post on the ubuntu forums, that is better for advanced topics like iptables
[03:36] <derek> Arafangion, how old are you ?
[03:36] <Arafangion> derek: It looks like a good game, I'm a huge fan of chess, but not many people my age play it here.
[03:36] <cricasurvive> hello, if a computer is intel based does that mean it's x86?
[03:36] <Arafangion> derek: I'm 21
[03:36] <Seveas> cricasurvive, most likely
[03:37] <shawnr_> Arafangion, what do you use to play on ubuntu?
[03:37] <cricasurvive> seveas: how do i find out
[03:37] <Seveas> cricasurvive, if you don't know it's something else: then it's x86 ;)
[03:37] <derek> Arafangion,  haha  ,  sometimes  young man don't like play this game
[03:37] <Seveas> derek, Arafangion offtopic talk elsewhere please
[03:37] <derek> Arafangion,  they have more and more other game to play
[03:38] <cricasurvive> Seveas: well i know it's not amd64 because i could choose between this one or that one...so yeah..
[03:38] <derek> Seveas,   ok   Sorry man
[03:38] <longwave> derek: look at http://cxboard.sourceforge.net/ - that is a chinese chess program for linux
[03:38] <shawnr_> Do you have to have firefox installed if you use swiftfox?
[03:38] <Arafangion> derek: I usually just play nethack - I don't like most computer games as I feel that they are now just about the art and graphics, and have lost something that makes a game truely enjoyable to play again.
[03:38] <derek> longwave, Thank you man
[03:39] <lhds> getright like for ubuntu?
[03:40] <derek> Arafangion,  haha  agree indeed !  well i have other things to do , c u  my friend
[03:41] <Arafangion> derek: And I have sleep to do.
[03:41] <Arafangion> derek: My caffiene deprived body is aching :(
[03:41] <shinobi2> !theme
[03:41] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:41] <derek> Arafangion, go ahead
[03:41] <DanielSC> problem with wlan: I have to ifdown/ifup ath0 after rebooting and then it works.. any idea where the problem is?
[03:42] <Seveas> DanielSC, do you use encryption?
[03:42] <lhds> theme shinobi2?
[03:42] <crackintosh> is anyone running ubuntu on a mac?
[03:42] <DanielSC> @Seveas: WPA2, but it works
[03:43] <Seveas> DanielSC, did you set that up preperly in /etc/network/interfaces or via crude initscripts hacks?
[03:43] <shinobi2> lhds: just looking for ubuntu eye candy
[03:43] <Seveas> !anyone > crackintosh
[03:43] <scr1lla> a quick question
[03:43] <Ronz> a quick answer
[03:43] <scr1lla> whats the latest kernel version for ubuntu
[03:43] <Otacon22> how many ram i need for working gnome
[03:43] <Otacon22> ??
[03:43] <srikat> can someone test my vncserver pls?
[03:43] <scr1lla> that or, which kernel version should i be running on a 6.06
[03:43] <DanielSC> in etc network interfaces (as described in the docs)
[03:43] <Seveas> scr1lla, 2.6.15-26
[03:44] <scr1lla> im running 2.6.15.23
[03:44] <npster> How come there is no Volume Control in Xubuntu ?
[03:44] <longwave> DanielSC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1307027 might help
[03:44] <crackintosh> Seveas: I cant get my mac to recognize the dapper drake cd when I boot my mac. I've tried using more than one burning program. Any ideas?
[03:44] <Seveas> DanielSC, I think your wpa is being too slow initially so dhclient fails, ifdown/ifup usually restores that
[03:44] <scr1lla> thanks much
[03:44] <Ronz> crackintosh, is your bios set to boot from CD?
[03:44] <DanielSC> no dhcpclient.. I'm using static
[03:45] <DanielSC> (thanks longwave.. I'll check that too)
[03:45] <crackintosh> Ronz: the ppc does not recognize the cd as a bootable cd. I have tried rebooting holding down the C key.
[03:45] <azrael0> DanielSC: This'd be crude, but you could add ifdown/ifup to rc.local
[03:45] <shawnr_> Do you have to have firefox installed if you use swiftfox?
[03:45] <Ronz> crackintosh, when you burned the cd...did you extract the files from the iso?
[03:46] <DanielSC> thanks azrael0... I was looking for a better solution :-P I could that manually too ;)
[03:46] <crackintosh> Ronz: no, is that required?
[03:46] <Ronz> no
[03:46] <Ronz> hmmz
[03:47] <Ronz> crackintosh, only thing i can think of is to burn it at a slower speed, so it will burn deeper into the CD
[03:47] <Ronz> and when you burn it, burn it as an image
[03:47] <Ronz> im pretty sure toast can do that
[03:47] <crackintosh> burn deeper into the cd?!
[03:47] <crackintosh> I will try to burn it slower.
[03:47] <MZM> i have problem with my cdrom device - I can't mount it, or issue any hdparm command. They just hang...
[03:47] <Ronz> thats the only thing that i can think of to do
[03:48] <longwave> slower speed burns are more accurate and are less prone to errors and problems later on
[03:48] <k31th> guys I have a kernel being kept back wen i do a apt-get update / upgrade... how can i allow it to install the  kernel ?
[03:49] <Bazzi> dist-upgrade
[03:49] <shawnr_> whats the latest kernel?
[03:49] <DanielSC> longware: It's exactly the problem I have. .thanks!.. for some reason I have to use the wpa_supplicant.conf approach... I'll try that
[03:50] <Otacon22> how many ram i need for working gnome
[03:50] <Otacon22> ??
[03:50] <longwave> DanielSC: i'm not sure why moving part of the config into another file makes any difference, but it seems to for that user, so hopefully it will for you too!
[03:51] <DanielSC> longwave, yes, I'm pretty sure it will work.. it's exactly the same problem..
[03:52] <longwave> Otacon22: i would say at least 128mb, but it will still be slow in places, 256mb or 512mb would be better
[03:52] <Otacon22> tnx
[03:53] <longwave> Otacon22: the ubuntu installer needs 256mb anyway, unless you use the alternate install cd
[03:54] <shawnr_> which gstreamer packages to i need for just wav & mp3 support?
[03:54] <Amaranth> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:55] <damian_> I wonder why the ugly at the end
[03:55] <tomveens> I've got a apt-get and update manager problem
[03:55] <Amaranth> damian_: they're ugly :)
[03:55] <shawnr_> Amaranth, thanks. what about if i use audacity. do you know if any gstreamer plug in is needed?
[03:55] <damian_> lol
[03:55] <damian_> why
[03:55] <Amaranth> The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
[03:55] <Amaranth> (it's a movie)
[03:56] <Amaranth> The codecs in the ugly package have patent problems.
[03:56] <Amaranth> shawnr_: audacity doesn't use gstreamer
[03:56] <Amaranth> you probably just need libmad0
[03:56] <shawnr_> thanks
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> 256 Minimum, 512 Good, 1GB Excellent, 1GB+ Overkill
[03:58] <tomveens> is there a server problem with security.ubuntu repo?
[03:59] <shawnr_> Amaranth, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly / gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse ... whats the difference? do i need both?
[03:59] <srikat> hi fyrestrtr
[03:59] <longwave> tomveens: it is working for me, but very slowly
[04:00] <mwe> I thought 192MB was the minimum requirement
[04:00] <tomveens> my graphical update manager was leaving in working
[04:00] <shawnr_> tomvees, same. it look like it froze on me.. i walked away for 5 minutes when i came back it was done
[04:00] <tomveens> but sudo apt-get upgrade did the trick
[04:00] <Amaranth> shawnr_: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse has the mp3 encoding support
[04:00] <m1ckeyknox> morning folks. I'm trying to figure out how to log into an ubuntu box remotely... all I'm concerned with is command line. I'm thinking ssh... anybody willing to help?
[04:00] <Amaranth> shawnr_: but that won't help audacity, it doesn't use gstreamer
[04:00] <shawnr_> ahh gotya
[04:00] <tomveens> And I cannot install opera
[04:00] <shawnr_> thanks
[04:00] <erUSUL> does anybody else has problems contacting the security repo today?
[04:01] <tomveens> graphical
[04:01] <tomveens> for a few days
[04:01] <mwe> tomveens: how are you trying?
[04:01] <frogzoo> m1ckeyknox: it needs to be enabled locally first
[04:01] <shawnr_> anyone know a good audio file converter?
[04:01] <damian_> audacity
[04:01] <tomveens> he keeps asking if I want to enable commercial and I want that
[04:01] <erUSUL> sound-converter
[04:01] <erUSUL> !info sound-converter
[04:01] <ubotu> Package sound-converter does not exist in dapper
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> m1ckeyknox: first, install a ssh server on your ubuntu box (sudo apt-get install openssh-server). Then make sure there is no firewall or router blocking port 22. Then, use any SSH client (like PuTTY for Windows) and login to your server using your login name and password.
[04:01] <longwave> m1ckeyknox: install openssh-server on the remote box, then you can use ssh (openssh-client) on linux or putty on windows to connect
[04:02] <mwe> tomveens: I needed the latest ubuntu .deb from opera.com to install it
[04:02] <tomveens> tryed not with synaptic but with the simple install in het program menu
[04:02] <Shinzetsu> Okay this is it
[04:02] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter > shawnr_
[04:02] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:02] <damian_> does ubuntu come with a firewall
[04:02] <m1ckeyknox> thanks frogzoo, fyrestrtr and longwave
[04:02] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[04:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:02] <Shinzetsu> Windows is going in my trash bin, im installing Linux fully, but my music is still on my harddrive, and I cant get to login to windows to back it up, im on a live cd now, any options?
[04:02] <m1ckeyknox> installing openssh-server now
[04:02] <Caroline_wp> Hey everyone
[04:03] <Caroline_wp> What does everyone want to talk about?
[04:03] <srikat> Shinzetsu, is the windows partition recognized?
[04:03] <damian_> thanks ubotu
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: someone should change that factoid and remove (web interface) as shorewall's web interface is actually a webmin module, and webmin isn't supported under ubuntu.
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> Nope, cos it didnt came with linux-ntfs
[04:03] <tomveens> it is but not writeble
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> wait hang on
[04:03] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: ntfs or fat32?
[04:03] <Caroline_wp> What does ubuntu mean?
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> ntfs
[04:04] <zsh> !ubotu > damian_
[04:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about > damian_ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:04] <tomveens> linux can read that
[04:04] <Shinzetsu> I know
[04:04] <Shinzetsu> wait
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: you can copy it over to a network share or a backup (or burn a CD of it if you have enough blanks)
[04:04] <tomveens> and make copy
[04:04] <shawnr_> !ubuntu
[04:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:04] <Shinzetsu> It recognizes it
[04:04] <Caroline_wp> What does ubuntu mean?
[04:04] <Shinzetsu> but when I try to read it says Unable to mount filesystem
[04:04] <tomveens> linux rescue cd
[04:04] <frogzoo> !ubuntu
[04:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> its an african word meaning friendship (iirc)
[04:04] <Shinzetsu> Unable to mount the selected volume*
[04:05] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[04:05] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[04:05] <erUSUL> Caroline_wp: if you have instaled ubuntu you can whatch nelson mandela explaining what ubuntu mean
[04:05] <gregg__> Caroline_wp: humanity AFAIK
[04:05] <Shinzetsu> error: device /dev/sda7 is not removable
[04:05] <Shinzetsu> error: could not execute pmount
[04:05] <tomveens> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[04:05] <Caroline_wp> Hey Gregg
[04:06] <erUSUL> Caroline_wp: totem /usr/share/example-content/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg &
[04:06] <srikat> I get "vncserver: Wrong type or access mode of /home/sri/.vnc." when I type "vncserver". Any idea on fixing that?
[04:06] <tomveens> for all your worries
[04:07] <Shinzetsu> any options?
[04:07] <longwave> srikat: "chmod 700 /home/sri/.vnc" should fix that, your .vnc directory needs to be secure as it contains passwords
[04:08] <Shinzetsu> fyrestrtr: any options?
[04:08] <MZM> i have problem getting out my PHILIPS cdrom device from some powersave(?) state (any command connecting device (mount, hdparm etc.) just hang till reboot). Device: "PHILIPS CD-RW/DVD-ROM SCB5265, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive", Kernel: "2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT"
[04:08] <srikat> longwave, did that now and still get the same msg
[04:09] <Shinzetsu> fyrestrtr: are you still there?
[04:09] <frogzoo> MZM: did you play with hdparm?
[04:09] <srikat> Shinzetsu, he quit
[04:09] <gregg__> MZM: checked for kernel messages (dmesg | tail)?
[04:09] <[b] urk> what is load "dri" in xorg.conf?
[04:09] <srikat> longwave, is that chmod or chown?
[04:09] <MZM> from dmesg: hdc: request sense failure: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[04:09] <longwave> srikat: chmod
[04:09] <longwave> srikat: chmod changes permissions, chown changes owner
[04:09] <Shinzetsu> ah oops
[04:09] <Shinzetsu> can someone else help me?
[04:10] <MZM> frogzoo: any command affecting device just hangs (i.e. sudo hdparm -w /dev/hdc)
[04:10] <reisio> [b] urk: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[04:10] <DanielSC> longware: problem solved (wlan).. thanks for your help
[04:10] <frogzoo> MZM: sudo hdparm -b /dev/hdc
[04:11] <Shinzetsu> I need to backup my music before i format and install linux but Im not able to mount my ntfs partitions using this live cd, and i cant access windows
[04:11] <frogzoo> MZM: then maybe try sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/hdc
[04:11] <[b] urk> thanks reisio
[04:12] <srikat> Shinzetsu, didn't the live CD automatically recognize and mount the windows partition?
[04:12] <MZM> frogzoo: nothing. Yet another command that do not respondseaven to kill -9
[04:12] <frogzoo> MZM: there's a whole bunch of options: try hdparm -C
[04:12] <erUSUL> Shinzetsu: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /mnt/
[04:12] <zkchong> guy, i found that I cannot delete my calender inside the gnome evolution. anyone face the same problem here?
[04:12] <MZM> frogzoo: problem is - ANY command accessing device hangs permanently
[04:13] <Shinzetsu> I did that
[04:13] <Shinzetsu> now what?
[04:13] <Shinzetsu> The folder contents could not be displayed.
[04:13] <Shinzetsu> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mnt".
[04:14] <MZM> I have to reboot to get my cdrom back and to kill all mount/hdparm commands
[04:14] <srikat> longwave, thanks...posted in the forum. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1324987
[04:15] <tomveens> how do I ad the commercial repository?
[04:15] <Shinzetsu> erUSUL: The folder contents cannot be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mnt".
[04:16] <frogzoo> MZM: have you made changes in /etc/hdparm.conf ?
[04:16] <frogzoo> MZM: I think the thing to do is get /etc/hdparm.conf right, then reboot
[04:16] <erUSUL> Shinzetsu: i'm afraiz you will need to have root perms try 'sudo nautilus /mnt/'
[04:16] <frogzoo> !multiverse > tomveens
[04:17] <erUSUL> afraid*
[04:17] <tomveens> multiverse is commercial?
[04:17] <Shinzetsu> Thanks mate!
[04:18] <zkchong> ...
[04:18] <zkchong> hi, anyone using gnome evolution here?
[04:18] <MZM> frogzoo: I have -c3 -d1 -u
[04:19] <Boris^Britva> Did someone managed to set-up virtual users @ vsftpd?
[04:19] <zsh> zkchong, yep
[04:19] <longwave> tomveens: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a76
[04:20] <frogzoo> MZM: add -B 255 which will disable apm
[04:20] <zkchong> zsh: hi, is there something wrong with the gnome's calender?
[04:20] <Shinzetsu> can linux write to fat32?
[04:20] <tomveens> multiverse is already on but can't install opera
[04:20] <Dr_O> Shinzetsu: yes
[04:20] <zkchong> zsh: like bugs... and etc??
[04:21] <longwave> tomveens: there is a separate repository for commercial, click the link i just pasted
[04:21] <MZM> frogzoo: Its not good sign - I'm on laptop
[04:21] <Shinzetsu> Dr_O: whats the command to format a drive?
[04:21] <hbullen> can even write to ntfs now
[04:21] <Shinzetsu> in f32
[04:21] <zsh> zkchong, not that i know of, check their bugzilla
[04:21] <longwave> hbullen: is writing to ntfs regarded as safe yet?
[04:21] <OneSeventeen> I'm trying to install skype and was told to convert the RPM to .deb, but they offer 4 RPM's, any ideas which I should download?
[04:21] <longwave> i know it's been possible for a while, but that never meant it was recommended :)
[04:22] <longwave> OneSeventeen: what about the debian package? it says "ubuntu" underneath it...
[04:22] <jrib> !skype
[04:22] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:22] <OneSeventeen> longwave, yup I know they have a .deb package already, but I'm going on the advice from someone on the forums.
[04:23] <hbullen> longwave yes
[04:23] <tomveens> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-commercial_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[04:23] <tomveens> problem
[04:23] <Shinzetsu> whats the command to format
[04:23] <longwave> that means you already have commercial listed in there?
[04:24] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: MKFS
[04:24] <Dr_O> Shinzetsu: try mtools man page and mkfs man page... is there a mkfs.vfat or mkfs.fat32 on your system?
[04:24] <threat2> hmm mthis doesnt seem right, when I use pdf2ps gs uses > 75% of my RAM, and causes my load avg to look like this -->  00:23:28 up 21:40,  5 users,  load average: 3.69, 2.94, 1.71
[04:24] <Shinzetsu> i dunno, im using a live cd, im just backing up my music before i format my internal hdd for Linux
[04:24] <Shinzetsu> I got access to my ntfs drives now, but i need to format my usb hdd to fat32 first to write on it
[04:25] <threat2> I have like no SWAP space left :\
[04:25] <longwave> threat2: how much ram/swap do you have?
[04:25] <threat2> 512 RAM, 365Mb SWAP
[04:25] <mwe> Shinzetsu: did you partition it?
[04:26] <Shinzetsu> it has 2 ntfs paritions on it, but i wanna format it to fat32 (1 partition)
[04:26] <frogzoo> threat2: add swapfile, or increase swap partn
[04:26] <threat2> fat32 is gayt
[04:26] <Shinzetsu> or whatever to write
[04:26] <Shinzetsu> i could use ext3
[04:26] <threat2> frogzoo, ummm but why is gs using soo much for? I am converting a 800K file from PDF to PS
[04:26] <Shinzetsu> i need something quick to back it up
[04:26] <OneSeventeen> I installed a .deb file by double clicking it... how do I uninstall it?
[04:26] <Shinzetsu> add/remove programs
[04:26] <mwe> Shinzetsu: so repartition it. sudo cfdisk /dev/whatever and delete what's on it and create a new fat partition. then format it with mkdosfs
[04:27] <Snake007uk> hey guys, im trying to install checkpoint smarthost dashboard on ubuintu but i get this error
[04:27] <Shinzetsu> how do i create a new partition then?
[04:27] <threat2> frogzoo, I had to renice the gs process so I can talk on here properly
[04:27] <Snake007uk> ./UnixInstallScript
[04:27] <Snake007uk> bash: ./UnixInstallScript: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:27] <mwe> Shinzetsu: with cfdisk
[04:27] <threat2> other wise it hangs
[04:27] <frogzoo> threat2: oic - dunno
[04:27] <threat2> frogzoo, bug in gs?
[04:27] <frogzoo> threat2: looks like
[04:27] <mwe> Snake007uk: broken script I guess
[04:27] <damian_> what's a kernel module in the context of linux
[04:27] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, whats the first line of that file?
[04:28] <frogzoo> damian_: a driver
[04:28] <Ignite__> wait
[04:28] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, nvm
[04:28] <Snake007uk> #!/bin/sh
[04:28] <damian_> why not just call it driver
[04:28] <Shinzetsu> hm my usb hdd isnt showing up
[04:28] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, you don't have permission to run /bin/sh
[04:28] <longwave> threat2, frogzoo: i've see gs use lots of memory before but over 512mb is a bit excessive..
[04:28] <Snake007uk> Ignite_ im root
[04:28] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what did you type?
[04:28] <frogzoo> damian_: modules are dynamicallt loaded
[04:29] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, try "sudo ./UnixInstallScript"
[04:29] <Shinzetsu> i just connected it
[04:29] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, oh
[04:29] <longwave> everyone should have permission to run /bin/sh!
[04:29] <Shinzetsu> did nothing yet
[04:29] <mwe> Shinzetsu: oh
[04:29] <tomveens> Synaptic connect to more repository's than I can see in sources.list
[04:29] <damian_> frogzoo: what does that mean
[04:29] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, "chmod +x /bin/sh" and try again
[04:29] <mwe> Shinzetsu: does it usually auto mount?
[04:29] <Shinzetsu> yep
[04:29] <Shinzetsu> it mounts cds/flashcards fine
[04:29] <mwe> Shinzetsu: are the usb modules loaded?
[04:30] <Shinzetsu> no idea
[04:30] <Shinzetsu> how can i see?
[04:30] <Snake007uk> no
[04:30] <Snake007uk> dont worry
[04:30] <mwe> lsmod
[04:30] <Snake007uk> i am assuming it wont work
[04:30] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, you could try changing the first line to !#/bin/bash
[04:30] <threat2> longwave, well it started to eat up my SWAP too!
[04:31] <Shinzetsu> dont have usb in the list
[04:31] <Snake007uk> Ignite_ its suppose to be #!/bin/sh
[04:31] <mwe> Shinzetsu: I think you need modprobe usb-storage
[04:31] <cppnewbie> heeeeeeeeeeeey, i was wondering, what was the command which let me edit the sound settings in the console?
[04:31] <mwe> Shinzetsu: lsmod|grep usb
[04:32] <Ignite__> Snake007uk, yeah, but my guess is there isn't much difference between sh scripts and bash scripts, actually, just run "bash UnixInstallScript"
[04:32] <Shinzetsu> I did that
[04:32] <Ignite__> cppnewbie, alsamixer
[04:32] <Shinzetsu> usb_storage            74176  2
[04:32] <Shinzetsu> usbhid                 38368  0
[04:32] <Shinzetsu> usbcore               129668  6 spca5xx,usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[04:32] <Shinzetsu> scsi_mod              139496  4 sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,libata
[04:32] <cppnewbie> Ignite__, cor, lemme check
[04:32] <mwe> Shinzetsu: now reconnect the drive
[04:33] <zero-1> HI, does any of you have a problem with the azureus system tray?
[04:33] <Ignite__> cppnewbie, if it says "command not found" you need to install alsa-utils with "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils"
[04:33] <gregg__> Ignite__: the difference is that 'bash' scripts use features which are only available in the bash shell
[04:33] <morphix> i accidentally buggered my MBR up a few days ago.. but i managed to make a ghost image of ubuntu before i reset the MBR.. and of couse.. grub is gone, how can i reinstall grub so that i can boot in ubuntu again??
[04:33] <gregg__> morphix: use testdisk!
[04:33] <Ignite__> gregg__, so there wouldn't be any problems executing a sh script with bash then :)
[04:34] <gregg__> morphix: it scans the harddisk for partition headers and can restore the MBR
[04:34] <morphix> gregg__: ???
[04:34] <morphix> gregg__: i dont want to restore the MBR
[04:34] <morphix> i just want to reinstall grub
[04:34] <morphix> i have the drive working fine now.
[04:34] <Ignite__> grub is an MBR mate
[04:34] <Ignite__> well
[04:34] <Ignite__> gets installed to it
[04:34] <morphix> exactly.
[04:35] <morphix> but.. i have changed partitioning since the MBR has been reset
[04:35] <Ignite__> so in theory you would be restoring the MBR when you install grub
[04:35] <cppnewbie> hm, sound is still like <censored> after the config though
[04:35] <morphix> so if i restore an old MBR everything is messed up
[04:35] <longwave> !grub
[04:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:35] <Ignite__> try supergrub disk
[04:35] <gregg__> morphix: chroot into your linux (from the boot CD) and execute grub-install /dev/hda
[04:35] <longwave> use the "recovering ubuntu" link
[04:35] <drshasta19> hi
[04:35] <morphix> ok thanks
[04:35] <Ignite__> hello
[04:35] <drshasta19> i was wondering...
[04:35] <gregg__> morphix: well... the MBR contains boot code as well as the partition table
[04:35] <drshasta19> i am using totem xine
[04:36] <Ignite__> :)
[04:36] <drshasta19> and every 10 min
[04:36] <drshasta19> the screen is all black
[04:36] <drshasta19> i disabled the screen saver
[04:36] <Ignite__> sounds like the power management
[04:36] <drshasta19> and modified the power saving options, but it still does it,...
[04:36] <Ignite__> not sure how to disable that
[04:36] <drshasta19> any idea?
[04:36] <ardchoille> !enter
[04:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:36] <drshasta19> well Ignite_  i already checked that too...
[04:36] <Ignite__> hrm
[04:37] <Ignite__> i idea, sorry
[04:37] <mwe> Shinzetsu: did it work?
[04:37] <gregg__> drshasta19: you can move the mouse every few minutes ;)
[04:37] <drshasta19> gregg__,  yeah i know
[04:37] <drshasta19> but its annoying when watching a 2 hours movie...
[04:37] <MZM> frogzoo: I'm back w my CDROM problem. hdparm -B has no effect on device, device works after manualy using hdparm -y or -Y
[04:37] <Ignite__> draconius, does totem have a setting to stop that happening? i think kaffeine has a setting to simulate a key press every so often to stop it, but thats kaffeine
[04:38] <gregg__> drshasta19: xine should have an option to disable saver/pm. did you enable that?
[04:38] <drshasta19> no
[04:38] <drshasta19> i dont see it anywhere though...
[04:39] <Shinzetsu> whats to command to unmount everything>?
[04:39] <mwe> Shinzetsu: don't do that
[04:39] <gregg__> Shinzetsu: everything? not possible
[04:39] <Shinzetsu> mwe: ill try to format my 2nd internal hdd and back it up there
[04:39] <gregg__> good luck unmounting / ;-)
[04:39] <mwe> Shinzetsu: you can't unmount everything
[04:40] <Shinzetsu> hm
[04:40] <Shinzetsu> well i screwed up with mounting and nautilus
[04:40] <mwe> Shinzetsu: well just modprobe uhci_hcd I think the usb drive will work then
[04:40] <Shinzetsu> FATAL: Error inserting uhci_hcd (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko): Operation not permitted
[04:40] <Shinzetsu> root?
[04:41] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo
[04:41] <mwe> Shinzetsu: maybe ehci_hcd too
[04:41] <Shinzetsu> still not working
[04:41] <mwe> Shinzetsu: did you diconnect the drive and reconnect it?
[04:42] <Shinzetsu> several times
[04:42] <Shinzetsu> i did both uhci and ehci
[04:42] <gregg__> Shinzetsu: does the kernel spit out any messages after plugging it in?
[04:42] <srikat> Shinzetsu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224514
[04:42] <Shinzetsu> nothing
[04:42] <mwe> Shinzetsu: and mount doesn't show it?
[04:42] <Shinzetsu> cant get access to /mnt/
[04:42] <Ignite__> Shinzetsu, disconnect your usb drive then run "tail -f /var/log/messages" and plug it in, it should spit out some stuff, use pastecode.com to paste it and give me the link :)
[04:42] <Shinzetsu> tried sudo nautilus /mnt/ but only shows 1 of my 3 mounted partitions
[04:43] <Shinzetsu> k lemme try
[04:43] <mwe> Shinzetsu: don't sudo nautilus
[04:43] <mwe> gksudo nautilus if you have to
[04:43] <Ignite__> use gksudo
[04:43] <Ignite__> what he said
[04:43] <Ignite__> ;)
[04:44] <rellim> hello all
[04:44] <Shinzetsu> http://www.pastecode.com/2361
[04:44] <rellim> if my hard drive is plugged into ide3 on the motherboard and is detected at /dev/hde1 is it wrong to have my grub point to root at (hd0,0) ?
[04:45] <Ignite__> Shinzetsu, mount -t vfat /dev/sdf1 /place/to/mount
[04:45] <mwe> Shinzetsu: type mount
[04:45] <rellim> if my hard drive is plugged into ide3 on the motherboard and is detected at /dev/hde1 is it wrong to have my grub point to root at (hd0,0) ?
[04:46] <Ignite__> no
[04:46] <mwe> Shinzetsu: the drive is working
[04:46] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdf
[04:46] <rellim> Ignite__: then any ideas why my boot hangs at "waiting for root filesystem"?
[04:46] <Ignite__> rellim, (hd0,4)
[04:47] <rellim> Ignite__: thanks
[04:47] <Ignite__> err
[04:47] <Ignite__> rellim, (hd4,0) even
[04:47] <mwe> the fifth hdd, firs partition
[04:47] <rellim> Ignite__: yeah, i was about to say it doesn't work :P
[04:47] <Ignite__> :P
[04:48] <rellim> Ignite__: "selected disk does not exist"
[04:48] <mwe> rellim: do you have 5 hard disks?
[04:48] <Shinzetsu> mwe: i deleted all my partitions and created a new logical one, now write?
[04:48] <Ignite__> rellim, try (hd2,0)
[04:48] <rellim> mwe: no ... only 1, but its plugged into ide3 on the mobo ... didn't know if that mattered
[04:48] <mwe> Shinzetsu: I'd create a primary one instead
[04:48] <rellim> Ignite__: just did, no go :(
[04:49] <Shinzetsu> i just need it to backup
[04:49] <Ignite__> weird
[04:49] <mwe> rellim: are you using the grub shell?
[04:49] <Shinzetsu> what now?
[04:50] <frogzoo> MZM: that's a bit wierd, but glad it works
[04:50] <mwe> Shinzetsu: Write the changes if you're satisfied
[04:50] <rellim> mwe: i hit 'e' at boot, if that is concidered the grub shell then yes
[04:50] <tomveens> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg does this repo has a problem?
[04:50] <mwe> rellim: oh
[04:51] <frogzoo> rellim: you need to check what's in /boot/grub/device.map
[04:51] <mwe> rellim: I was going to suggest tab completion but that wont work there I think
[04:51] <Shinzetsu> okay now reconnect?
[04:51] <rellim> mwe: probably not
[04:51] <chipp> can anyone help me to configure my xubuntu to support my graphics card? i got a laptop with ati Radeon 320M (RS200 IGP)
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[04:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <MZM> frogzoo: it could be bug in firmware? (there is no update for this drive)
[04:51] <frogzoo> rellim: root (hd0,0)          and then    find /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:51] <Shinzetsu> mwe: its not showing up =/
[04:52] <xbehav1>  when i installed kde from xubuntu, it took me trough a few options, but the terminal window was too small to read, how can i run the same script again?
[04:52] <Shinzetsu> xbehav1: startkde
[04:52] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what do you mean, where?
[04:52] <Shinzetsu> 1 deleted all partitions and made 1 ext3 logical partition
[04:52] <mwe> Shinzetsu: yes
[04:52] <MZM> frogzoo: most wired - it works after standby or suspend IF it was working (active) before that
[04:52] <Zkillz|Admin> My server cant seem to connect to the internet somehow, I've tried a few different things, It just wont go on the inet, any ideas?
[04:52] <frogzoo> MZM: what state is the battery in?
[04:52] <mwe> Shinzetsu: you need to create the file system now
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> mwe: how?
[04:53] <Spec> how do i import my private key ring via gpg?
 thanks... just that i have tried like 10 different howtos and it always fails. X craches and black screen
[04:53] <MZM> frogzoo: it doesnt matter - it happens hwn on AC or on battery
[04:53] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf what does that return?
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> hold on
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> Disk /dev/sdf: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:53] <Shinzetsu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> /dev/sdf1               1       19457   156288321    5  Extended
[04:53] <Shinzetsu> /dev/sdf5               1       19457   156288289+  83  Linux
[04:54] <mwe> Shinzetsu: good
[04:54] <dieman> figures, first qunu user i help is a windows user just trying to recover their windows install :)
[04:54] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdf4
[04:54] <dieman> with a ubuntu livecd
[04:54] <mwe> Shinzetsu: no
[04:54] <MZM> frogzoo: I will try to disable any PM ir BIOS
[04:54] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdf5
[04:54] <Shinzetsu> yes =)
[04:54] <mwe> Shinzetsu: not 4
[04:54] <gekko`> I'm getting this error if I try to launch thunderbird: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19397
[04:54] <Shinzetsu> writing :)
[04:55] <Shinzetsu> lol relim
[04:55] <frogzoo> MZM: trouble is, lappies thrive on good power management, really needs to get fixed, maybe file a bug, or search launchpad
[04:55] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what are you going to backup?
[04:55] <Zkillz|Admin> My server cant seem to connect to the internet somehow, I've tried a few different things, It just wont go on the inet, any ideas?
[04:55] <TheGateKeeper> chipp: ati video cards are notorously bad, I have heard quite a few who have given up on them and changed to nvidia, I use a GeForce4 myself, and haven't really felt the need to even bother with the hardware acceleration
[04:56] <mwe> ati cards are. the driver from ati sucks though
[04:56] <mwe> are fine*
[04:56] <frogzoo> TheGateKeeper: it's true - 3d on ati is extremely poor
well.. that is not a option since im on a laptop
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> chipp is the one having the problems folks :-(
[04:57] <dcode> I'm having some problems with ssh.  When I login it doesn't read .bash_profile or .bashrc
[04:57] <frogzoo> chipp: which vid card?
[04:57] <mwe> chipp: I got good performance with an ati 9700 mobility on my old lappy
[04:57] <dcode> I saw a similar post in the forums, but their solution didn't help
[04:57] <Zkillz|Admin> Anyone? aww-
 it says  Radeon 320M (RS200 IGP).
[04:58] <dcode> one thing I think is going on, is my SHELL env var says /bin/sh
[04:58] <iqon> dcode: is bash your shell?
[04:58] <mwe> chipp: is that supported by fglrx?
[04:58] <dcode> but /etc/passwd says /bin/bash
[04:58] <chipp> mwe. good question
[04:58] <frogzoo> chipp: it's worth seeing if that will run the fglrx driver - it might, I'm not sure
[04:58] <xerophyte> with dpkg how can i list all the package which has the ldap on the description which is installed on the server
[04:58] <Davitrola> hi. i'm having some "interference" on the images in firefox since i installed dapper. does anyone know what i can do to solve it?
[04:58] <mwe> chipp: is it old?
[04:58] <derekS> is there a way to take an md5sum of a directory (not the individual files, but the whole folder)
[04:58] <dcode> iqon: so yes, bash is my shell
[04:59] <dcode> iqon: but it's being run as sh
[04:59] <frogzoo> derekS: only of a tar of the directory
[04:59] <longwave> xerophyte: "dpkg -l | grep -i ldap" ?
[04:59] <chipp> mwe. the laptop? yeah a few years.
[05:00] <gregg__> Davitrola: sounds odd. can you describe it more accurately or provider screenshots?
[05:00] <mwe> chipp: I think older than radeon 9200 or sth is not supported by fglrx. there's info on ati.com
[05:00] <frogzoo> chipp: fglrx is pretty unlikely then
[05:00] <Shinzetsu> mwe: it worked
[05:00] <Shinzetsu> i got a lost+found now
[05:00] <derekS> frogzoo: so there is no eazy way of checking if 2 directories are exact?
[05:00] <mwe> Shinzetsu: good
[05:00] <iqon> derekS: find . -type f -exec md5sum '{}' \;
[05:00] <Shinzetsu> volume name: usbdisk
[05:00] <chipp> frogzoo. what about dri?
[05:00] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what are you going to backup?
[05:00] <frogzoo> derekS: sure - diff -R
[05:00] <Shinzetsu> mwe: is it true i cant access the lost+found folder?
[05:00] <Shinzetsu> music
[05:00] <derekS> iqon: where do i put the folder name?
[05:00] <Shinzetsu> and video, my media
[05:00] <frogzoo> derekS: err, - diff -r
[05:00] <iqon> derekS: cd into the folder first
[05:01] <mwe> Shinzetsu: as root you can i think
[05:01] <derekS> iqon: ok, thanks :)
[05:01] <Shinzetsu> error: device /dev/sda7 is already mounted to /mnt
[05:01] <Shinzetsu> error: could not execute pmoun
[05:01] <Shinzetsu> =/
[05:01] <Davitrola> gregg: pieces of images from screen elements like menubars somehow creep inside the images, making some odd patterns
[05:01] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what's that?
[05:01] <Shinzetsu> the partition on my internal hdd where i want to backup from
[05:01] <xerophyte> thx
[05:01] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what's /dev/hda7 and what is giving you that error?
[05:01] <Shinzetsu> i mounted it but then i mounted something else and it screwed up
[05:01] <Zkillz|Admin> My server cant seem to connect to the internet somehow, I've tried a few different things, It just wont go on the inet, any ideas?
[05:02] <Shinzetsu> sda is my 200GB S-ATA HDD, and sda7 is my media partition
[05:02] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what gave you that error?
[05:02] <Shinzetsu> sda = internal s-ata where my media is
[05:02] <Shinzetsu> hdf = external usb where i want to backup to
[05:02] <Shinzetsu> trying to access it from file manager
[05:03] <Shinzetsu> auto-mount
[05:03] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: you do realize that both sdf1 & sdf5 are the same physical partition, yes?
[05:03] <Davitrola> gregg__: pieces of images from screen elements like menubars somehow creep inside the images, making some odd patterns
[05:03] <Shinzetsu> yes
[05:03] <mwe> Shinzetsu: well it says sda7 is mount on /mnt so go there
[05:03] <Shinzetsu> one is swap
[05:03] <dcode> any idea why sshd would run /bin/sh for  my shell instead of /bin/bash
[05:03] <iqon> dcode: if "usermod -s /bin/bash username" then i'm not sure what to tell y
[05:03] <dcode> ?
[05:03] <Shinzetsu> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mnt".
[05:03] <nigue> hi
[05:04] <Shinzetsu> i think i did sudo nautilus /mnt/ back then
[05:04] <theBeno> Can I bind keypresses to running the cd in the rom etc?
[05:04] <theBeno> Easily...
[05:04] <m1ckeyknox> how can I get a command line process list?
[05:04] <theBeno> m1ckeyknox, Type "ps".
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> okay hang on
[05:05] <mwe> ps -e
[05:05] <mwe> or ps aux
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> i have to unmount hda and mount sda7
[05:05] <m1ckeyknox> theBeno: i'm trying to determine why I am able to connect via ssh... but not via VNC
[05:05] <mwe> Shinzetsu: no
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> hda is my 2nd internal hdd but now that the usb works i dont need it
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> hdf is my usb hdd
[05:05] <mwe> yes
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> or sdf it was
[05:06] <mwe> but what is mounted where?
[05:06] <mwe> type mount
[05:06] <tjansson> I would like to enable acpi to make my computer do a clean shutdown when i press the power button - how do I do that?
[05:06] <theBeno> m1ckeyknox, Forwarding the right ports if you are have a router?
[05:06] <m1ckeyknox> i'm local
[05:06] <m1ckeyknox> literally sitting next to the machine
[05:06] <Shinzetsu>  /dev/sda7 on /mnt type ntfs (rw)
[05:06] <Shinzetsu> /dev/hdc5 on /mnt type ntfs (rw)
[05:06] <Shinzetsu> /dev/sdf5 on /media/usbdisk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[05:06] <Shinzetsu> sorry its not hda its hdc
[05:07] <s_spiff> guys, where can i get ah owto for installing and using wine on a amd64 bit DD installation?
[05:07] <Shinzetsu> sda7 = internal hdd where media is stored
[05:07] <Shinzetsu> hdc5 = second hdd which i dont need anymore
[05:07] <Shinzetsu> sdf5 = usb hdd where i need to backup to
[05:07] <Ernst> How do i get the bus id of my agp videocard
[05:08] <Shinzetsu> Ernst: probe?
[05:08] <s_spiff> any1 knows how to install wine on a 64bit archtype? Dapper installation
[05:08] <Ernst> Shinzetsu, probe?
[05:08] <czekista> Enst: should be somewhere in /proc directory
[05:08] <Shinzetsu> hmm
[05:08] <Shinzetsu> I have no knowledge on PCI in Linux, sorry
[05:08] <Shinzetsu> AGP*
[05:08] <xbehav1> !mount
[05:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:09] <Ernst> pci = same as afg
[05:09] <Ernst> *agp
[05:09] <iqon> dcode: is bash your shell on both machines (ssh to and from) or just the one you are ssh'ing from?
[05:09] <Shinzetsu> yea..
[05:09] <mwe> Shinzetsu: type mount
[05:09] <Shinzetsu> I did
[05:09] <m1ckeyknox> anybody? can't connect via VNC after a restart... can connect via ssh.
[05:09] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what's mounted where?
[05:09] <Shinzetsu>  /dev/sda7 on /mnt type ntfs (rw)
[05:09] <Shinzetsu> /dev/hdc5 on /mnt type ntfs (rw)
[05:09] <Shinzetsu> /dev/sdf5 on /media/usbdisk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[05:09] <dcode> iqon: /bin/bash is my shell on both ends
[05:09] <mwe> Shinzetsu: it's borked
[05:09] <Shinzetsu> borked?
[05:09] <mwe> Shinzetsu: don't mount two things the same place
[05:09] <Shinzetsu> yea
[05:10] <Shinzetsu> thats what i meant
[05:10] <Shinzetsu> can i unmount hdc5?
[05:10] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo umount /mnt
[05:10] <Shinzetsu> then start over
[05:10] <Shinzetsu> alright
[05:10] <m1ckeyknox> Shinzetsu: borked = Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar
[05:10] <mwe> Shinzetsu: then sudo mount /dev/hda7 /mnt
[05:10] <Shinzetsu> thanks =)
[05:10] <mwe> Shinzetsu: you don't need to start over
[05:10] <m1ckeyknox> Shinzetsu: np
[05:11] <Shinzetsu> sudo: unmount: command not found
[05:11] <Shinzetsu> =/
[05:11] <Shinzetsu> oh umount
[05:11] <Ernst> there is a command to list divices and bus id's anyone?
[05:11] <m1ckeyknox> so... anybody have suggestions on what I can do? I could shutdown the server, connect keyboard, mouse, monitor... but I'm looking for a quick way to figure out why I can't get into vnc... :(
[05:11] <ty> Yo
[05:11] <Davitrola> gregg__: any ideas?
[05:12] <Shinzetsu> ah crap i mounted the wrong one lol
[05:12] <Shinzetsu> sec
[05:12] <DarkPixel> Yo
[05:12] <chipp> what is a open source 3d graphics driver?
[05:13] <longwave> Ernst: try "lspci" or "lspci -v"
[05:13] <mwe> Shinzetsu: well umount the ntfs partition and sudo mount -o umask=0222 /dev/sda7 /mnt so users can read the files
[05:13] <DansFloyd> does anyone know how to fix my wifi meter? I can connect to an access point, but no matter where I am, it's allways 100% connection
[05:13] <m1ckeyknox> or... anybody have a command line for adding a user to a group?
[05:13] <Shinzetsu> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mnt".
[05:13] <DarkPixel> Anyone know what should use to run a irc?
[05:13] <mwe> DansFloyd: fix the driver probably. it's kinda hard though
[05:13] <DarkPixel> login as root so go su
[05:14] <DarkPixel> and the type in that command
[05:14] <ventz> does anyone know what the vnc server apt package is called?
[05:14] <ventz> i am having a hard time locating it
[05:14] <gregg__> Davitrola: uh, maybe problems with the graphics driver
[05:14] <mwe> Shinzetsu: I told you
[05:14] <mwe> Shinzetsu: well umount the ntfs partition and sudo mount -o umask=0222 /dev/sda7 /mnt so users can read the files
[05:14] <Ernst> longwave, thanks
[05:14] <DarkPixel> it came with my ubuntu
[05:14] <Shinzetsu> damn
[05:14] <ahmed> i'm so tired
[05:14] <Shinzetsu> wait lets start over
[05:14] <Shinzetsu> umount /mnt/
[05:14] <iqon> m1ckeyknox: usermod -G newgroup -a username
[05:14] <gregg__> Davitrola: try to change it to "vesa" in xorg.conf ("slow but safe" choice)
[05:14] <Shinzetsu> now
[05:14] <nigue> hi i have some problem with mplayer under ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[05:14] <DansFloyd> how do i fix the driver?
[05:14] <mwe> Shinzetsu: yes
[05:14] <Shinzetsu> i want to mount sda7
[05:14] <nigue> could somebody help me
[05:15] <mwe> DansFloyd: learn to program
[05:15] <nigue> :)
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/
[05:15] <ahmed> i need a cool game
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> right?
[05:15] <m1ckeyknox> iqon: thanks... trying
[05:15] <mwe> DansFloyd: and look at the source code and get the hw specs for you card
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> mwe: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/ ?
[05:15] <mwe> DansFloyd: basically become a kernel hacker
[05:15] <erUSUL> Shinzetsu: sudo mount -t <filesystemtype> /dev/sda7 /mnt/
[05:15] <Davitrola> gregg__: where is xorg.conf?
[05:15] <mwe> Shinzetsu: no
[05:15] <m1ckeyknox> ventz: apt-search cache vnc
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> ah -t
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> yes
[05:15] <TheGateKeeper> ventz: vncserver in universe
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> forgot that, thanks
[05:15] <mwe> Shinzetsu: I told you two times
[05:15] <DansFloyd> ok
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> my bad
[05:16] <gregg__> Davitrola: /etc/x11
[05:16] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo mount -o umask=0222 /dev/sda7 /mnt
[05:16] <nigue> i can open it only in terminal and i can't see mplayer control panel only "video window"
[05:16] <s_spiff> any1 can tell me how to use wine? Suppose I wanna use MS Live Messenger..
[05:16] <DansFloyd> well, i can do a bit of programming, but probobly not enough to do all that
[05:16] <sproingie> how do i prevent all windows from stealing focus?  i was typing an email, and the update center stole focus
[05:16] <Shinzetsu> mount: /dev/sda7 already mounted or /mnt busy
[05:16] <Shinzetsu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda7 is already mounted on /mnt
[05:17] <ventz> m1ckeyknox: i did that, no server package though
[05:17] <ventz> TheGateKeeper: in universe?
[05:17] <Shinzetsu> i think i know what you mean
[05:17] <Shinzetsu> sec
[05:17] <ventz> sorry, me -> openbsd user
[05:17] <AngryElf> if i'm gonna use an old config file to re-compile a kernel what should the name of the config file be?
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > ventz
[05:17] <regebro> sproingie: I though Gnome fixed that.
[05:17] <Shinzetsu> mwe: worked
[05:17] <ventz> TheGateKeeper: gracias
[05:17] <regebro> sproingie: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[05:18] <TheGateKeeper> ventz: yw :-)
[05:18] <sproingie> regebro: 6.06
[05:18] <sproingie> er, dapper
[05:18] <Shinzetsu> how do i make a new folder on my usb disk?
[05:18] <Zkillz|Admin> My server cant seem to connect to the internet somehow, I've tried a few different things, It just wont go on the inet, any ideas?
[05:18] <mwe> Shinzetsu: mkdir
[05:18] <TheGateKeeper> ventz: usefull info: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:18] <regebro> sproingie: I guess it must be a hole in the focus.stealing protection in Gnome then. :)
[05:19] <Davitrola> gregg__: is there a gui app that edits that file? just so i can remember later
[05:19] <s_spiff> does anyone have expirence here in using Wine?
[05:19] <Shinzetsu> wait, what was the usb hdd again
[05:19] <ventz> TheGateKeeper: thanks
[05:19] <Shinzetsu> sdf5 okay
[05:19] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo mkdir blah /media/usbdisk
[05:19] <mwe> Shinzetsu: no
[05:19] <Shinzetsu> ah yea
[05:19] <Shinzetsu> i get it
[05:19] <TheGateKeeper> ventz: hope it proves usefull :-)
[05:19] <Shinzetsu> its mounted
[05:20] <Krpano> :/
[05:20] <DarkPixel> Anyone know what should use to run a irc?
[05:20] <Shinzetsu> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/usbdisk': File exists
[05:20] <m1ckeyknox> alright... anybody... I'm trying to connect via tightvnc to vncserver on my ubuntu server box... can't. It worked prior to a restart. Suggestions?
[05:20] <DaveQB> how can one lock a version of software so it's not touch during an upgrade ?
[05:21] <DarkPixel> What should i use to start my own irc server any plz
[05:21] <Shinzetsu> mwe: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/usbdisk': File exists
[05:21] <mwe> Shinzetsu: of course
[05:21] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: on the vncserver box, run: ps ax | grep vncserver
[05:22] <Zkillz|Admin> My server cant seem to connect to the internet somehow, I've tried a few different things, It just wont go on the inet, any ideas?
[05:22] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: whats that return you?
[05:22] <mwe> Shinzetsu: mkdir /media/usbdisk/blah
[05:22] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo mkdir
[05:22] <Shinzetsu> thanks worked
[05:22] <DarkPixel> What should i use to start my own irc server any plz
[05:22] <Shinzetsu> first you toled me sudo mkdir blah /media/usbdisk/ :)
[05:22] <Shinzetsu> told*
[05:22] <m1ckeyknox> 4992 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep vncserver
[05:22] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: sure the vncserver started?
[05:22] <Shinzetsu> still doesnt work
[05:23] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: no
[05:23] <m1ckeyknox> ;-)
[05:23] <sproingie> DaveQB: hit = in aptitude and that will lock the package at its current version
[05:23] <redloff> hi, is there any faq, about how to make totem usable?
[05:23] <Ernst> can someone help me find the right bus id of my agp videocard, right now xorg.conf has my pci card in use but i can't find the right pci bus. I tried lspci -vvx but it won't give the right code
[05:23] <sproingie> DaveQB: or use : to just lock it for that session
[05:23] <damian_> anyone get plugger to work on ubuntu
[05:23] <Linkiboy> hi guys, i need help again
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> mwe: no idea
[05:24] <sproingie> Linkiboy: just ask
[05:24] <mwe> Shinzetsu: what happens?
[05:24] <DaveQB> sproingie: ok, thanks, i'll try aptitude
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> nothing
[05:24] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: how can I start it from the command line? honestly... I did an apt-get and no idea how it works... it's just "magic" ;-)
[05:24] <mwe> Shinzetsu: then it worked
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> i only see lost+found
[05:24] <mwe> Shinzetsu: ls /media/usbdisk
[05:24] <mwe> Shinzetsu: you don't get an error?
[05:24] <Linkiboy> i'm following the sticky in the forums on installing WUSB54G v4(which is what i have)
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> huh
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> lol
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> it exists but it doesnt show up in file explorer
[05:24] <gregg__> Davitrola: well, just make a backup in advance
[05:24] <Linkiboy> and it says to $sudo make uninstall
[05:24] <Shinzetsu> lets try and replug
[05:25] <mwe> Shinzetsu: it probably didn't refresh
[05:25] <Linkiboy> but typing that gives me access denied
[05:25] <gregg__> Davitrola: I don't know of a *usable* editor for the xorg config
[05:25] <sproingie> Linkiboy: leave out the $
[05:25] <Shinzetsu> yep
[05:25] <Shinzetsu> worked
[05:25] <Shinzetsu> thanks!
[05:25] <Linkiboy> i tried that and without $
[05:25] <sproingie> Linkiboy: it's turning $sudo into an empty string
[05:25] <m1ckeyknox> *sigh* how can I search from the command line?
[05:26] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: search what ?
[05:26] <Linkiboy> i get sometinhg like "failed to remove .../ndiswreapper/bin access denied"
[05:26] <m1ckeyknox> trying to find vnc
[05:26] <m1ckeyknox> since it seems it isn't running
[05:26] <Linkiboy> not exactly that
[05:26] <sproingie> Linkiboy: root should be able to do anything.   what does make say before access denied?  pastebin if it's a lot of output
[05:26] <Davitrola> gregg__: thanks for the help, man. i might switch to a nvidia board in a few days, so i think i'll just wait
[05:26] <vieirar> When I try an start an app I get this error....  error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:26] <Shinzetsu> how do i copy/paste?
[05:26] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: the command ?
[05:26] <Shinzetsu> i seem to copy but paste is grayed out
[05:26] <orbin> m1ckeyknox: locate <blah>
[05:26] <Linkiboy> i dont have internet on linux, im typing on windows right now
[05:26] <DaveQB> vncserver should be what your after, no ?
[05:26] <mwe> Shinzetsu: yes
[05:26] <m1ckeyknox> m1ckeyknox: yeah, either to try to find vncserver or to start it.
[05:26] <DaveQB> or grep if your searching contents of files
[05:27] <roxlu> Anyone who can help me with this error msg: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gvZXz620.html
[05:27] <vieirar> What do I need to load to get this?
[05:27] <mwe> Shinzetsu: sudo chown Shinzetsu /media/usbdisk/blah
[05:27] <DaveQB> ps ax | grep vncserver < will check if its running
[05:27] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: ^
[05:27] <Ernst> can someone help me find the right bus id of my agp videocard, right now xorg.conf has my pci card in use but i can't find the right pci bus. I tried lspci -vvx but it won't give the right bus id
[05:27] <m1ckeyknox> ah... crap... I think I get it... it's not running... because there's not currently a window manager running... one installed... but after I restarted... there's not.
[05:27] <m1ckeyknox> not one running.
[05:27] <k31th> wat cmd tells me how muchn data is in a dir ?
[05:27] <m1ckeyknox> is that right? or am I off-base?
[05:27] <k31th> du -h ?
[05:27] <Shinzetsu> still
[05:28] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: sounds right
[05:28] <Shinzetsu> (i did ubuntu as im the livecd user)
[05:28] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: you havent X running ?
[05:28] <Suspect> Hey guys
[05:28] <Suspect> I'm having some trouble getting a linksys wireless USB adapter working
[05:28] <stefg> !wifi
[05:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> roxlu: some kind of video resolution problem is all I can tell. But you knew that
[05:29] <Suspect> Thanks stefg
[05:29] <Suspect> I'll take a look at that
[05:29] <Suspect> lol
[05:29] <Shinzetsu> mwe: got it, thanks alot
[05:29] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: after the restart... I've only logged in via ssh
[05:29] <Shinzetsu> now afk
[05:29] <DaveQB> ahhh m1ckeyknoxmight be it
[05:30] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: X server should start at default with Ubuntu, you been playing with the runlevels ?
[05:30] <tjb891> ok, when I install a application with wine does it interact or detect other applications installed under wine?
[05:30] <DarkPixel> where can i get a driver for my wireless card and where/how can i install it :S
[05:30] <Zkillz|Admin> how do I change my gateway ip ?
[05:30] <SheepCow> hi, I'm trying to get nfts support in dapper, I followed the instructions on the wiki but when i try to mount i get: fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory
[05:30] <jrib> !wireless
[05:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:31] <stefg> !faq
[05:31] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[05:31] <tjb891> Zkillz|Admin: Do you use a router?
[05:31] <Zkillz|Admin> tj9991, no, I dont think so.
[05:31] <tjb891> im not sure then
[05:31] <Zkillz|Admin> tj9991, if I do ?
[05:31] <cuginoIT> hi everybody
[05:32] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: no... the install is actually ubuntu server.
[05:32] <tjb891> you access your router in your web browser and you could change it, type in you gateway ip in firefox and it should bring up your router controls?
[05:32] <gregg__> Davitrola: got an ATI? they suck ;p
[05:32] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: aah i see
[05:32] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: I installed dapper with apt-get
[05:33] <tjb891> but that will not change your actual IP people see on the internet
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> SheepCow: I hope you have a good backup.. That has trashed as many systems as Gates
[05:33] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: umm ok so you need to get vncserver up and X server started
[05:33] <Davitrola> gregg__: no, it's currently an obscure generic onboard one
[05:33] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: right... from ssh
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: might be of interest: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-189555.html
[05:33] <Zkillz|Admin> how do I change my gateway ip ?
[05:34] <Zambezi> Which is the best and most secure? LUKS or loop-AES?
[05:34] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: umm should be an easy way to check if X is up
[05:34] <DarkPixel> any one know where i can download the drivers for my wireless card Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
[05:34] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: can't recall if i know a way
[05:34] <stefg> either netadmin in gnome or /etc/network/interfaces
[05:34] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: echo $DISPLAY might do
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[05:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:35] <GnarusLeo> how is the best way to burn a .img file onto a DVD?
[05:35] <stefg> !hardware
[05:35] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> GnarusLeo: K3B
[05:35] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: ideally... I don't want xserver running on a regular basis underpowered development box
[05:35] <longwave> DarkPixel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:35] <GnarusLeo> Jack_Sparrow, It gave me a error: "invalid argument"
[05:35] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: no dice... blank line is displayed.
[05:35] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: means X is not up
[05:35] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: I'm fairly certain that no x is up
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> GnarusLeo: Using that wiki?
[05:35] <GnarusLeo> wich wiki?
[05:36] <GnarusLeo> Jack_Sparrow, I was the k3b dude :)
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> GnarusLeo: The one I just linked for broadcom
[05:36] <DaveQB> yep, seems so
[05:36] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: whats runlevel return ?
[05:36] <GnarusLeo> Jack_Sparrow, Sorry, didnt ask for broadcom .. just that k3b gave me a "invalid argument" error when I tried burning a .img file
[05:37] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: currently... N 2
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> GnarusLeo: Im sorry...
[05:37] <stefg> http://cdemu.sf.net
[05:37] <ardchoille> Yay! They're fixing apt for Edgy :)  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39589
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> GnarusLeo: I missed that..
[05:37] <Shinzetsu|AFK> back
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> THat is odd
[05:37] <Plugh> .img? Unusual extension
[05:37] <Shinzetsu> mwe: you know I feared for the worst as I couldnt access my WinXP lol
[05:37] <jordan_> Please How can i network 2 Pc's By Usb?
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> GnarusLeo: I wouldnt have a clue why it gave you that error
[05:38] <GnarusLeo> Plugh, unsual??? No :) Like every dvd-image you get is compressed to .img :P
[05:38] <GnarusLeo> ok Jack_Sparrow  ... trying to burn once more
[05:38] <stefg> jordan_: yopu'll need hardware for that
[05:38] <jordan_> stefg, I have to have it.
[05:38] <jordan_> stefg, ? I cant really afford it.
[05:38] <Plugh> Ah ha! Compressed. So you need to uncompress it first. I rarely see .img myself. I'm used to see .iso
[05:39] <jordan_> stefg, But i do have a 2 sided usb for connecting 2 pcs
[05:39] <stefg> jordan_: no way... special hardware or go dying :-)
[05:39] <GnarusLeo> Plugh, no .. its an image ... like .iso ...
[05:39] <DaveQB> m1ckeyknox: ls /etc/rc2.d/ does that list kdm or gdm or x11_common or xorg-common
[05:39] <GnarusLeo> Plugh, .img stands for .image :)
[05:39] <Plugh> I know what is stands for.
[05:40] <naga44> ello...i have just installed windows on my box and i think i have to reinstall grub to the mbvr?? ...is that correct?
[05:40] <jordan_> stefg, Cries.... Can i use My Lan Port with Something
[05:40] <amnezia> If I installed ubuntu with an ATI card, and want to change to an Nvidia, is there a way to regenerate the xorg.conf or need to do it myself?
[05:40] <Shinzetsu> I mostly see .bin/.cue
[05:40] <stefg> jordan_: for connecting PC's maybe?
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> jordan_: buy a cheap router
[05:40] <MZM> GnarusLeo: .img stands for problem
[05:40] <m1ckeyknox> DaveQB: yes, S13gdm
[05:40] <Shinzetsu> .img is a slang for .omg
[05:40] <Firebird8> when i go to install libfaac-dev it tries to install libmp4-dev, but libmp4-dev is called libmp4v2-dev, so libfaac-dev won't install... anyway to fix this?
[05:40] <cica> hello all
[05:41] <Shinzetsu> cica: hi
[05:41] <jordan_> stefg, How i just want my 2 Pc's Beside eachother to share The Same connection (Seems like it should be easy)
[05:41] <GnarusLeo> MZM, and why is that ? :)
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jordan_: so you not only want to connect two pc's with usb you want to share the internet as well?
[05:41] <cica> was hoping somone could advise... I've just updated my system but on the boot loader it still displays the old upgrade that was there previously... Does anyone know how to remove this old system listing?
[05:42] <cica> Thanx
[05:42] <dragger> hi
[05:42] <Shinzetsu> cica: what bootloader do you use
[05:42] <dragger> I'm really new to ubuntu and linux for that matter
[05:42] <dragger> does anyone know why a driver wouldn't show up in the xorg.conf file?
[05:42] <cica> grub Shinzetsu
[05:42] <power1> I know this is probably a silly question, but how do I copy a directory thats space seperated via scp the directory lloks like this if i do an ls " XP\ Pro-2"  error looks like this " scp: /var/vm/XP: No such file or directory " any ideas?
[05:42] <TheGateKeeper> jordan_: if they both have ethernet cards, it is, a cheap router with at least 2 ports and a couple of RG45 leads
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jordan_: Solution is easy.. get a router.
[05:42] <Shinzetsu> Edit the grub.conf file
[05:42] <hussam> are there any data recovery tools for linux for recovering removed files?
[05:42] <dragger> I'm trying to get my synaptics touchpad set up - downloaded driver but I don't think it's loading
[05:42] <Shinzetsu> cica^
[05:42] <cica> Shinzetsu: pwd
[05:42] <stefg> jordan_: 20 bucks for a cheap router, so you can switch off the PC's indepently.  ICS only works for LAN connections, not for USB
[05:43] <Shinzetsu> cica: pwnd?
[05:43] <Shinzetsu> pwd*
[05:43] <mhisani> server panther.furnet.org
[05:43] <cica> where is the grub.conf Shinzetsu
[05:43] <GnarusLeo> power1, try giving it "" or \ .... if you "XP Pro-2" it would be fine ... or XP/ Pro-2
[05:43] <Shinzetsu> In the MBr
[05:43] <incandenza_> cica: you can also remove the package for the old kernel (linux-image-2.6.15-23-whatever)
[05:43] <Shinzetsu> search for it
[05:43] <Shinzetsu> afk
[05:43] <AngryElf> dragger, last i checked there's an extensive wiki article on the synaptics touchpad
[05:43] <AngryElf> dragger, wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <GnarusLeo> !touchpad
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about touchpad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <mwe> Shinzetsu: did you mange to copy your files?
[05:43] <power1> GnarusLeo, thanks...
[05:43] <DarkPixel> How could i amke my windows xp my main bootup?
[05:44] <cica> incandenza_ Shinzetsu: thanks guys I'll have a look
[05:44] <m1ckeyknox> okay... I'm at run level 2... connected via ssh... and I need to run gdm for vncserver to run... so I can connect.
[05:44] <dragger> thanks
[05:44] <stefg> DarkPixel: by reading carefully through the grub docs and /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:44] <jordan_> Jack_Sparrow, I Cant (My Isp only Does Wireless Highspeed)
[05:44] <DarkPixel> thx
[05:45] <Plugh> DarkPixel: Change the default line in your grub.conf file
[05:45] <chipp> hmm ok.. ati driver is not supporting my card ati card 320M (RS200) and putting "radeon" instead of "vesa" in xorg.conf just results in black screen when trying to restart X. so the question is what can i do to configure my card and enable 3d?
[05:45] <stefg> !ati
[05:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <solstice> hi. i have an luks encrypted partition. when i boot i have a pmount-hal window that's prompt me for a passwd but after that it freezes !
[05:45] <jordan_> stefg, What is ICS? I can use My Lan Port if i need to...
[05:45] <stefg> Internet Connection Sharing
[05:46] <stefg> http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/
[05:46] <jordan_> stefg, How do i set it up what Connections do i use?
[05:46] <orbin> Plugh: there is no grub.conf ... grub's config file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:46] <stefg> have a read :-o
[05:46] <chipp> stefg. i thought i said that the ati driver doesnt support my card.
[05:46] <power1> GnarusLeo, still does not work.
[05:47] <DarkPixel> im not finding etc/boot
[05:47] <stefg> chipp: fglrx does not?... Hmmm time to get aout of trouble and buy Nvidia :-)
[05:47] <Plugh> orbin: Not on my system it isn't. menu.lst is symlinked to grub.conf :-)
[05:47] <DarkPixel> i found etc but no boot
[05:48] <chipp> stefg. man im getting sick of everyone saying that.. its not an options since im on a laptop
[05:48] <orbin> Plugh: oh, are you running ubuntu?
[05:48] <george_looney> hello all
[05:48] <GnarusLeo> power1, tell me again what your problem was
[05:49] <quidam-> HI everybody, i need mount a local mirror (repository) from ubuntu, i saw the ubuntu wiki and i dont find any official script for that, can anybody help me?
[05:49] <chipp> Stefg. if you cant help me fix the problem im asking about, then dont say anything to me.
[05:49] <power1> GnarusLeo, how do I copy a directory thats space seperated via scp the directory lloks like this if i do an ls " XP\ Pro-2"  error looks like this " scp: /var/vm/XP: No such file or directory "
[05:49] <Plugh> orbin: Yup, I am. Just upgraded a few days ago to 6.06
[05:49] <vvheritagevv> Darkpixel: its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:50] <DarkPixel> oh ok
[05:50] <DarkPixel> thx
[05:50] <GnarusLeo> power1, scp "XP Pro-2" should do it
[05:50] <Warbo> !opera
[05:50] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[05:51] <Warbo> Aha! Maybe Add/Remove will succeed where browsers 404...
[05:51] <jordan_> stefg, Wait I have a Toshiba Modem (Can i Use that)
[05:51] <Plugh> What tool (either GUI or command line) lets you manipulate what is run at system boot time?
[05:52] <jordan_> !nic
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about nic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:52] <jordan_> !ics
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about ics - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:52] <m1ckeyknox> how can I see a list of packages installed?
[05:52] <Warbo> !info bum
[05:52] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[05:52] <Plugh> ICS sounds like a Windows term
[05:52] <Plugh> ubotu: thanks
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:52] <Warbo> m1ckeyknox: "sudo dpkg -l"
[05:52] <Plugh> Oh. Its a bot?
[05:52] <sysdoc> lol
[05:52] <jordan_> stefg, Do you still Exist?
[05:52] <Lobster> :D
[05:53] <quidam-> so.... anybody knows how build a local ubuntu repository? with debian i have a rsync script, but with ubuntu this change :-S
[05:53] <stefg> jordan_: I don't know what you're talking about. if you're on dialup, you could use it, but the only way to network two computers is using..errr... the network cards
[05:53] <Plugh> handy thing to catch some of the more common questions
[05:53] <Warbo> Opera gives no version in Add/Remove. Is it version 9?
[05:54] <GnarusLeo> Warbo, "opera --version"
[05:54] <Bazzi> or opera:about within opera
[05:54] <Warbo> GnarusLeo: I haven't installed it yet, since version 8 is useless to me and I want to check
[05:54] <quidam-> La_PaRCa, PING
[05:54] <FifaFrazer> I've installed xubuntu but there is no sound, and for some reason there is no command called alsaconf or alsaconfig
[05:54] <Warbo> !sound
[05:54] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:54] <stefg> !sound
[05:55] <lhds> passwd prompts for old and new pass but when sudo, login failed help?
[05:55] <GnarusLeo> !opera
[05:55] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[05:55] <shawnr_> !dma timeout
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about dma timeout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:55] <shawnr_> !dma_timery
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about dma_timery - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:55] <shawnr_> ;(
[05:55] <stefg> !fishhing
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about fishhing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:55] <Plugh> Oh, I see what is happening. text starting with ! triggers a search by ubotu.
[05:55] <stefg> !fishing
[05:55] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:56] <stefg> shawnr_: how about a proper question :-D ?
[05:56] <Josh43> Has anyone here successfully set up sshfs via fstab? I have all the dependencies, but I'
[05:56] <Warbo> GnarusLeo: "Downloading File 30/30" <- That is why I would have preferred finding out the version first :)
[05:56] <shawnr_> i was just curious if it would have a response
[05:56] <Josh43> .. but I'm having permission problems
[05:56] <lhds> passwd prompts for old and new pass but when sudo, login failed help? sudo passwd root -t would give unable to look up user via gethostbyname () suggestions
[05:56] <m1ckeyknox> warbo: thank you, btw.
[05:56] <Warbo> np
[05:57] <k31th> Wats that ide called for kde?
[05:57] <Warbo> !info kdevelop
[05:57] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[05:57] <stefg> quanta
[05:57] <FifaFrazer> but what is the equilvant to system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector   in xubuntu?
[05:57] <La_PaRCa> quidam-, PONG
[05:57] <locutus_> Can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[05:57] <m1ckeyknox> still trying to be able to get into the desktop of an ubuntu server.
[05:57] <k31th> Warbo: wat ?
[05:57] <ompaul> !sound > locutus_
[05:57] <ompaul> locutus_, have a look at the message from the bot
[05:59] <ompaul> !away > CyaniCs|Awake
[05:59] <stefg> FifaFrazer: tht's obsolete, don't bother
[05:59] <Wikipedia-Gast66> why
[05:59] <Josh43> !sshfs
[05:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about sshfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:59] <Wikipedia-Gast66> why
[05:59] <quidam-> La_PaRCa, conoces el script para montar un repositorio ubuntu local?
[06:00] <s_spiff> any1 using msn messenger in wine?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:00] <m1ckeyknox> anybody: I'm trying to connect to my ubuntu _server_ box via vnc. I'm at runlevel 2 connected via SSH. I have connected before, but only after logging in from the terminal and launching gdm.
[06:00] <locutus_> For sound, I have a driver/sound card problem.  I don't think the website ubotu gave me helped much.
[06:01] <FifaFrazer> there is one called applications -> settings -> mixer settings   but i can only choose "default"
[06:01] <jordan_> stefg, Ok What if i move my Roughter?
[06:01] <aladds> has anyone got dapper running on an oldworld powermac?
[06:01] <jordan_> stefg, My ISp only lets me use this wireless thing but i might be able to move it.
[06:01] <aladds> i got it to install, but the initrd wont boot
[06:01] <orbin> FifaFrazer: perhaps you should ask in #xfce
[06:01] <aladds> the kernel is fine
[06:01] <locutus_> Has anyone struggled with sound with an IBM Thinkpad?
[06:01] <La_PaRCa> quidam-, ubuntu-es
[06:01] <orbin> FifaFrazer: or #xubuntu
[06:02] <aladds> locutus_, is it a 390?
[06:02] <ompaul> FifaFrazer, #xubuntu exists for that
[06:02] <quidam-> La_PaRCa, alli nadie tiene npi de eso :P
[06:02] <stefg> jordan_: sorry, i don't understand.  what's this wireless thing? has it got network jacks on it?
[06:02] <locutus_> aladds: Not sure.
[06:02] <ompaul> quidam-, please speak english
[06:02] <farous> hi I have etch installed here.
[06:02] <m1ckeyknox> *sigh*
[06:02] <La_PaRCa> quidam-, yo si, y aqui es solo ingles, ves?
[06:02] <quidam-> ompaul, sorry, i do my question in english
[06:02] <farous> wrong room :)
[06:02] <vedder> Hi! i have a problem :(
[06:03] <quidam-> HI everybody, i need mount a local mirror (repository) from ubuntu, i saw the ubuntu wiki and i dont find any official script for that, can anybody help me? <- ompaul, see?
[06:03] <FifaFrazer> okay, but it is installed from an ubuntu cd
[06:03] <molllgc> gomez castillo
[06:03] <aladds> locutus_, i was setting up a 390 for a friend, the chip shows up as as97 but it isn't
[06:03] <molllgc> luis miguel
[06:03] <vedder> I just re install ubuntu in my hda hd and i have windows in hdc
[06:03] <aladds> it's an yamaha opl thing
[06:03] <vedder> grub dont see windows..
[06:03] <stefg> waht a relief for grub :-)
[06:04] <vedder> it would be great if someone can help me...
[06:04] <Plugh> rebooting... bbl
[06:04] <sysdoc> stefg, lol
[06:04] <s_spiff> need help again people.can i add more ip add's and the ip add. specifc gateways to my ethernet card? if so how?
[06:04] <ompaul> quidam-, make it a http directory and then point to it
[06:04] <s_spiff> !ip
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:04] <s_spiff> !gateway
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about gateway - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:05] <s_spiff> :(
[06:05] <vedder> Hi can somone help me please?
[06:05] <ompaul> !fishing
[06:05] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[06:05] <m1ckeyknox> ... *anybody* trying to launch vncserver
[06:05] <s_spiff> ompaul, sorry no intentions to abuse.. was looking for help on urgent bsais
[06:05] <ompaul> m1ckeyknox, tightvncserver will kick off when you install it
[06:05] <jordan_> stefg, I have a Motorola SBG-900 (I Think) But its in my kitchen. (So i cant connet my Pc There but i have This Pc Wireless) But it does have some conenctions in the back if i brought it down could i use it (But i also have another roughter)
[06:06] <aladds> vedder, boot into ubuntu and modify /boot/grub/menu.list i think
[06:06] <vedder> wich is the parameter if i have windows in the 3 hdd? h0,0 if the first one but the 3 is...?
[06:06] <ompaul> !patience
[06:06] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: describe your problem
[06:06] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:06] <jordan_> stefg, I mean Modem
[06:06] <aladds> vedder, check the grub manpage
[06:06] <vedder> ok
[06:07] <s_spiff> Mr_Magic, I want to add another extra ip add. and dns servers for my ethernet card. wanted to know if its possible and if so how to do it? In windows, I just right click on the tcp/ip properties and add other stuff. i dunno what to do here
[06:07] <k31th> is there an ide for bash?
[06:07] <ompaul> k31th, it is called terminal - ehh no there is not, what are you trying to do?
[06:07] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: not that I have ever done this, but don't you ssh onto your server, start X which then starts the vncserver, you use the vnc client and off you go?
[06:08] <aladds> come on, someone must have got dapper on an oldworld powermac
[06:09] <k31th> ompaul: well how can i turn syntax highlighting on in vi / vim ?
[06:10] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: this is a first time for me as well...
[06:10] <stefg> jordan_: my i suggest reading thru http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and checking back after that ? ;-)
[06:10] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: seems that I can't just "startx"
[06:10] <suzie_fox> i can't seem to get any sound out of amarok. it just says the playlist is finished as soon as it should start playing. any ideas of what i can try to fix the problem?
[06:10] <k31th> how can i turn syntax highlighting on in vi / vim ?
[06:11] <trappist> k31th: :syntax on
[06:11] <aladds> suzie_fox, can you get sound with anything else?
[06:11] <suzie_fox> yes, aladds.
[06:11] <k31th> thanks
[06:11] <trappist> k31th: echo "syntax on" >> ~/.vimrc
[06:11] <galorin> suzie_fox, is your playlist made up of mp3 files, or other formats?
[06:11] <trappist> k31th: to make it permanent
[06:11] <suzie_fox> VLC plays sound, but it's not a very good audio player itself
[06:11] <suzie_fox> galorin: mostly mp3, yes
[06:11] <aladds> suzie_fox, and the audio files play in other players?
[06:11] <SmokeyD> could somebody please use my nick for a sec?
[06:12] <suzie_fox> aladds: i don't really have any other players
[06:12] <stefg> !offtopic
[06:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:12] <suzie_fox> just VLC media player
[06:12] <aladds> suzie_fox, try xmms
[06:12] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: take a look at system -> administration -> networking
[06:12] <aladds> suzie_fox, and vlc works?
[06:12] <stefg> listen is the one and only for gnome, amaroK for KDE
[06:12] <mollygl> hola como estais
[06:12] <suzie_fox> yes, aladds. it plays the mp3s correctly
[06:12] <s_spiff> Mr_Magic, it allows you to enter only one ip add. I want to add another ip add.
[06:13] <stefg> !es
[06:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:13] <zerium> hi all, for some reason my configuring network interfaces hangs and then when I hit ctrl-c to skip the desktop never comes up, just gives me a cursor and a brown screen
[06:13] <galorin> suzie_fox, I can't remember where the wili node is, but you maybe having troubles because ubuntu doesn't ship with MP3 decoding files, need to install them yourself
[06:13] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: ok you want to add to ip's to one network card?
[06:13] <suzie_fox> ah, i suppose that could do it.
[06:13] <Shinzetsu> see you guys on linux!
[06:13] <stefg> zerium: is this a dhcp related problem?
[06:13] <aladds> suzie_fox, galorin's right, check the wiki, restricted formats
[06:13] <suzie_fox> apparently i don't have xmms, so i need to wait for adept to finish updating before i can install it
[06:14] <FifaFrazer> i have serious sound problems.. I have the alsa packages installed but i cant get any sound. I cant run the alsamixergui aswell. My sound card is sound blaster isa pnp vibra16
[06:14] <zerium> stefg: it seems when i turn on auto (ethX) it does it... when i turn it off on the device its fine and then when i go into networking and click activate it works...
[06:14] <rellim> where are gaim's icons stored by default?
[06:15] <FifaFrazer> maybe ubuntu have problems with isa cards
[06:15] <s_spiff> Mr_Magic, yup. as in 2 ip add's and other dns servers for the same ethernet card
[06:15] <zerium> stefg: but, i'd like to have non sudoers have internet access....
[06:15] <stefg> zerium: you're behind a router, using NAT i assume?
[06:15] <usama> hi all
[06:15] <bXi> hi
[06:15] <zerium> stefg: yeah
[06:15] <bXi> i'm having an issue with installing konsole
[06:15] <FifaFrazer> and how can i configure anything without the alsaconf command?
[06:15] <usama> how can i copy dvd
[06:15] <bXi> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/konsole_3.5.2-0ubuntu27_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[06:15] <Plugh> bum helped me shut down some things I don't need to run on boot but I still haven't figured out what is loading the parport and parport_pc modules during boot before it hits runlevel 2.
[06:16] <stefg> zerium: so anyone has net-access anyway... the router does the 'dialing'
[06:16] <FifaFrazer> usama, you want to copy it to another dvd or to the hdd ?
[06:16] <zerium> stefg: yes
[06:16] <DarkPixel> !wifi
[06:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:16] <rellim> where are gaim's icons stored by default?
[06:16] <trappist> Plugh: grep -r parport /etc/mod*
[06:16] <anfrank> Anyone know anything about Proftpd?
[06:16] <zerium> stefg: its cable... so always on (hooked through a router)
[06:17] <stefg> zerium: it might be the router being lazy in issuing a dhcp lease ...
[06:17] <zerium> it does it even when i set it up as static
[06:17] <usama> FifaFrazer: i want to copy dvd in my harddisk
[06:17] <Plugh> trappist: I have already done that.
[06:17] <stefg> zerium: is it a _router_ or a _cable-modem_ ?
[06:18] <Suspect> hrm
[06:18] <zerium> stefg: router
[06:18] <Suspect> in ubuntu when I type sudo ifup wlan0 it says
[06:18] <Suspect> invalid argument supplied "yadayadayada"
[06:18] <Suspect> where yadayadayada = the WEP key I entered
[06:19] <stefg> zerium: so the chain goes like cable modem->router->Computer
[06:19] <locutus_> Is anyone free enough to help me with a problem? (Feel free to open up a private channel)
[06:19] <zerium> stefg: yeah, works fine, it think its the wifi card...
[06:19] <stefg> Maybe router and modem are built into the same case
[06:20] <Plugh> locutus_: what problem?
[06:20] <orbin> locutus_: it's best to just ask in here first
[06:20] <usama> how can i copy a dvd into my hard disk?
[06:20] <zerium> :stefg no, i have a physical router, and a physical cable modem
[06:20] <FifaFrazer> usama, a forum search gave this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K9Copy
[06:20] <locutus_> orbin Plugh: It's a sound card problem.  I have a card and a driver for sound, but when I look @ System > Preferences > Sound, I don't have a default sound driver.
[06:21] <rambo3> locutus_ so whats the card name
[06:21] <stefg> zerium: so I'd check the wireless howto for tips or known issues, and possibly try to have fixed IPs on the LAN. This is required anywayif you need to forward ports through the NAT for filesharing etc.
[06:21] <LeaChim> and this is interesting. different locutus to the one i normally talk to. hehe
[06:22] <locutus_> rambo3: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/4611
[06:22] <m1ckeyknox> gdm = gnome display manager, right?
[06:22] <rambo3> locutus_ did you check alsa webpage for your card
[06:22] <usama> FifaFrazer: thanks, lemme check it
[06:22] <Plugh> locutus_: I'm working on a similar problem on my end but I know my problem is caused by an IRQ conflict due to an unwanted kernel module that is getting loaded.
[06:22] <Plugh> locutus_: what card do you have?
[06:22] <stefg> !blacklist
[06:22] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[06:22] <locutus_> rambo3: Yes.
[06:23] <t-thing_> postifx seems like an overkill for me. I just want a working sendmail command used with relay hosts. Other light weight options?
[06:23] <rambo3> locutus_ and ? is it intel sound driver
[06:23] <locutus_> Plugh: I said to rambo3... Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11
[06:23] <zerium> :stefg ok, so how do i setup my box to automatically enable the card with a static ip?
[06:23] <locutus_> rambo3: I'm not sure.
[06:24] <rambo3> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Cirrus_Logic#matrix
[06:24] <Plugh> locutus_: just saw that.
[06:24] <IRCMonkeyX> hi  people,terrible day today, i got error 17, i couldnt install  neither ubuntu nor windows again, ilost my c drive :( why do i get this error?
[06:24] <locutus_> rambo3: It's and IBM Thinkpad.
[06:24] <stefg> zerium: static ip is done in the gnom network manager (System-Admin-network). how to get your specific card going: see !wifi
[06:25] <Plugh> locutus_: do you know the settings for the card (ie. irq, port addresses)
[06:25] <damien_> hello
[06:25] <zerium> :stefg yeah i tried that... seems when i take out auto ra0 in my /etc/network/interfaces file it clears up the problem
[06:25] <damien_> is there some xorg professional here ?
[06:26] <damien_> i'm on a PowerMacintosh 4400/200 80 Mo, 13 Go
[06:26] <damien_> with edubuntu
[06:26] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: well you can add a virtual interface in /etc/network/interfaces like eth0:1
[06:27] <s_spiff> Mr_Magic, how?
[06:27] <rambo3> locutus_ bet its a some kind of buggy driver or some sor of and isue . sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx ; just fallow the setup here , you can skip the compiling part . http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Cirrus+Logic&card=.&chip=CS4280%2C+CS4610%2C+CS4612%2C+CS4614%2C+CS4615%2C+CS4622%2C+CS4624%2C+CS4630&module=cs46xx
[06:27] <Plugh> locutus_: You could start by checking your systems start up messages (dmesg or /var/log/messages file) and see if it tried to load the sound driver modules but couldn't for some reason.
[06:27] <IRCMonkeyX> hi people,terrible day today, i got error 17, i couldnt install neither ubuntu nor windows again, i lost my c drive :( why do i get this error?
[06:27] <IRCMonkeyX> !error 17
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about error 17 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <IRCMonkeyX> !grub
[06:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:28] <locutus_> Plugh: Well. the sound worked on my Windows machine before I loaded Ubuntu.
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: just found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[06:28] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > hi everybody
[06:28] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > where can i find iweather ?
[06:28] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > please
[06:28] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > because
[06:28] <orbin> java
[06:28] <ompaul> !enter
[06:29] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:29] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: you might be my hero.
[06:29] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > weather desklet doesn't work for me
[06:29] <GnarusLeo> Wich program should I use to get pictures from a digital camera? "Casio Exilim"
[06:29] <orbin> whoops, sorry.
[06:29] <stefg> Grub error 17 is: grub doesn't recognise the filesystem. Broken fs, broken partition tabel or broken harddsik
[06:29] <Plugh> locutus_: If you can still boot Windows, you can find out the settings for the card using Windows device manager. They would be handy to have and may or may not be required.
[06:29] <locutus_> Plugh: Windows is gone.  Sorry.
[06:29] <Plugh> locutus_: ok
[06:29] <GnarusLeo> Wich program should I use to get pictures from a digital camera? "Casio Exilim"
[06:30] <Plugh> locutus_: what do you get if you type 'lsmod |grep snd'?
[06:30] <ubul4> guys. alternate or desktop, which iso to download?
[06:30] <stefg> alternate
[06:30] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > nobody know where can i find iweather
[06:30] <kdean06> I need to limit the size of a directory on a production server. This directory is writable by several people. What options do I have for limiting the size of the single directory, without imposing quotas on any of the USERS.
[06:30] <Plugh> locutus_: it will tell you if the kernel modules are loaded or not for the device
[06:30] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: how could i repair it?
[06:31] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: it was broking partition label
[06:31] <roe> is ubuntu.com down?
[06:31] <ubul4> stefg: good, I will download the alternate. btw, why should I download the alternate?
[06:31] <stefg> IRCMonkeyX: what does sudo fdisk -l tell?
[06:31] <locutus_> Plugh: :( Hm.  I don't see the sound card.  I know I just loaded it yesterday.
[06:32] <stefg> ubul4: it's the textmode installer... it's quicker to install and the partitioner is less obfuscated
[06:32] <dinamizador> hola
[06:32] <dinamizador> algun espaol por ahi
[06:33] <stefg> !es
[06:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:33] <TheGateKeeper> roe: no I don't think so
[06:33] <ubul4> stefg: thank you for this information.
[06:33] <orbin> IRCMonkeyX: maybe grub's been wiped out for some reason...not sure
[06:33] <xbehave2> can you mount sub directories? e.g /dev/sda5/music to /music ?
[06:33] <Plugh> locutus_: No lines that start with snd when you do lsmod? What do you mean by 'I know I just loaded it yesterday'?
[06:33] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: i couldnt pass bios, i did fdisk/mbr , than even not writing error 17, windows trying to load coming back to bios infinetly
[06:34] <locutus_> Plugh: Oh. Yeah, a lot of lines start with snd.
[06:34] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: i couldnt pass bios, i did fdisk/mbr , than even not writing error 17, windows trying to load but coming back to bios infinetly
[06:34] <locutus_> Plugh: And I know that I saw CS 4610/11 in the lsmod list yesterday.
[06:35] <stefg> IRCMonkeyX: uh oh.... harddisk might be about to fail, boot a Rescue CD and see if there's somtehing recoverable... testdisk might help to fix the partiton table
[06:35] <stefg> !info testdisk
[06:35] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[06:35] <chipp> what version of x.org does ubuntu have?
[06:35] <J-_> what's a good compression program?
[06:35] <IRCMonkeyX> orbin:  i got error 17 two times, first time i re-install ubuntu than ok, but now i lost my drive c, what should i do when i get error17 except of re-installing ubuntu?
[06:36] <abhinay> is it possible to resize or move the linux partition (Ubuntu installed in it) .........?
[06:36] <Plugh> locutus_: That is good. It probably means your card is recognized. Do you see a line starting with snd_cs46?
[06:36] <stefg> IRCMonkeyX: you partition table is screwed... don't write on that disk anymore, you put your data at risk!
[06:36] <totoz> i have an old hd with linux installed         if i connect it to my pc with windows xp can i see files on this linux-partitioned hd? is there a special apps for this or the only way to see files is connect this hd to another pc with linux already installed
[06:36] <jorgg> How do i change my password for my default keyring?
[06:36] <locutus_> Plugh: snd_CS46xx   ?
[06:37] <J-_> what's a good compression program?
[06:37] <IcemanV9> chipp: X Window System Version 7.0.0
[06:37] <locutus_> Plugh: Sorry... snd_cs46xx
[06:37] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: i tried to delete a partition from windows disk manager, when xp was working, than it happened
[06:37] <chipp> IcemanV9. thanks
[06:37] <Plugh> locutus_: if you see that in the output from lsmod you computer is seeing the sound cadr and loading the driver for it. Now its just a matter of configuring alsa to use it.
[06:37] <brotherJohn1234> J-_: gzip with tar. ....
[06:37] <locutus_> Plugh: Yup.
[06:38] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: i use to do this sometimes, this is the first time i got problem
[06:38] <orbin> jorgg: would this be relevant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto ?
[06:38] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: when i installed ubuntu, i made more partition by unknowing, i was trying to add two drives
[06:38] <stefg> IRCMonkeyX: you need a recovery tool like testdisk. better option... backup everything, wipe the disk, check for physical defects and completly repartition it if it turns out ok
[06:39] <IRCMonkeyX> stefg: testdisk is recovery tool for ubuntu ? may i get it with wget
[06:39] <Plugh> locutus_: I will be going for lunch soon. The rest of the information you need is here --> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Cirrus+Logic&card=.&chip=CS4280%2C+CS4610%2C+CS4612%2C+CS4614%2C+CS4615%2C+CS4622%2C+CS4624%2C+CS4630&module=cs46xx
[06:39] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:40] <locutus_> Plugh: Okay. TX.
[06:40] <stefg> IRCMonkeyX: use a CD... don't write on the disk any more
[06:40] <stefg> http://www.inside-security.de/download_en.html
[06:40] <jordan__> stefg, What was that Website I was supposed To Check (Sorry My Pc Crashed)
[06:41] <totoz> help please
[06:41] <npster> Where do I download games for Xubuntu (packadge files only) ?
[06:41] <Plugh> locutus_: Put the file they mention in the first set of statements in a file in /etc/modprobe.d
[06:41] <npster> totoz: Ask
[06:41] <totoz> i asked
[06:41] <npster> totoz: repeat
[06:41] <stefg> jordan__: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[06:41] <totoz> i have an old hd with linux installed         if i connect it to my pc with windows xp can i see files on this linux-partitioned hd? is there a special apps for this or the only way to see files is connect this hd to another pc with linux already installed
[06:41] <jorgg> orbin: okay Ill take a look
[06:41] <fourat> any one know a good desktop-tray application for agregating rss feeds ?
[06:41] <quangnh> help
[06:42] <npster> totoz: no you can't windows can't read xt3 FS
[06:42] <stefg> totoz: you probably won't be able to acces a linux disk from windows
[06:42] <quangnh> i want setup x-unikey
[06:42] <clust3r> Hello In here
[06:42] <Plugh> locutus_: I'm referring to the lines shown starting with "# ALSA portion". You can call the file snd-cs46xx to indicate its related to that kernel module.
[06:42] <orbin> fourat: not sure if it's any good, but: yarssr
[06:43] <npster> Where do I download checked Ubuntu games (packadges only) ?
[06:43] <totoz> so the only thing to do is connect this hd to another pc with linux
[06:43] <npster> totoz: I guess
[06:43] <Plugh> Looks like parport is being installed on my machine due to it PnPBIOS stuff. Now I have a better idea where to look to stop it from loading.
[06:43] <orbin> npster: checked?
[06:43] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: http://pastebin.ca/110394
[06:44] <rambo3> npster what do you mean buy checked
[06:44] <_bt> how can i check which repo my updates are coming from ? there's lots of gnome updates today but the update manager says they are unauthenticated
[06:44] <npster> I mean checked that they really run and are virus free...
[06:44] <totoz> hope it works    this hd is from an old P2            linux standard partition is changed in this years?
[06:45] <Dimitrije> gtk+ >= 2.6 not found.
[06:45] <rellim> how do i force apt to install packages that have been held back?
[06:45] <Dimitrije>  :(
[06:45] <longwave> totoz: ext2 has been the standard for many years now, it will probably be in that format
[06:45] <queuetue> Hello.  Is there a repository or package that I can get a prebuilt mod_proxy_balancer for apache?
[06:46] <rambo3> !info mod_proxy_balance
[06:46] <ubotu> Package mod_proxy_balance does not exist in dapper
[06:46] <totoz> last question         is a good choiche ubuntu for starting linux?   (in the past i used only mandrake for few weeks)
[06:46] <npster> Why doesn't my internet ADSL connection doesn't work with Mozilla, to view a page I have to type in terminal pon dsl-provider so i t works and in XChat no ?
[06:46] <Dimitrije> !info gtk
[06:46] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in dapper
[06:46] <gigantor> totoz- ubuntu is excellent
[06:46] <FurryNemesis> totoz, yes
[06:46] <gigantor> has good hardware support
[06:46] <gigantor> and easy to figure out menus
[06:46] <longwave> totoz: i don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with that in this channel :)
[06:46] <TheGateKeeper> rellim: I think the question you really want to ask is how do I fix broken pacakages :-)
[06:46] <rellim> totoz: yes, in general many people have found ubuntu to be a good distro for beginners because of its uniform installation and the friendly user community
[06:46] <orbin> totoz: if you like kde, trhere's also kubuntu
[06:46] <npster> Where do I download games !????
[06:46] <brotherJohn1234> queuetue: have you tried debian-testing - packages ?
[06:46] <FurryNemesis> totoz, I was a "windows power user" ubuntu was great and so much easier
[06:47] <totoz> that's what i hoped to hear
[06:47] <rellim> TheGateKeeper: no, i did --fix-broken and it didn't do anything
[06:47] <queuetue> brotherJohn1234, I haven't.
[06:47] <stefg> !games
[06:47] <totoz> :D
[06:47] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:47] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: that was an interesting read... but ultimately... not really what I'm looking for...
[06:47] <rellim> TheGateKeeper: it says packages are being held back
[06:47] <brotherJohn1234> queuetue: they might(!!) work.
[06:47] <npster> totoz: for old machines Xubuntu is wonderful
[06:47] <rellim> TheGateKeeper: i have passed every parameter i could think of and even read over the man page
[06:47] <bXi> it seems impossible to install Bundle::CPAN in perl -MCPAN -e shell
[06:47] <rambo3> relim is it the gpg key  issue
[06:47] <totoz> and then i'll come here to ask the impossible to you :D
[06:47] <queuetue> brotherJohn1234, How would I see if it exists, before I actually break my apt? :)
[06:47] <FurryNemesis> Does anyone know what the official channel for Tremulous is?
[06:47] <rellim> rambo3: and how can it be fixed?
[06:47] <longwave> rellim: apt-get dist-upgrade will fix held back packages, but it may remove something so be careful before saying Yes
[06:48] <npster> Do I have to yell here so I can get an answer !!!
[06:48] <pcfan> npster: I had it too - i think it has to do with the /etc/resolv.conf dns servers.... the mozilla doesn't recognize them or something....
[06:48] <rellim> longwave: really? .... ok, thanks
[06:48] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: it seems that remote desktop only works if somebody is logged in... but I want it to function that it logs in when somebody connects.
[06:48] <npster> pcfan: How did you fix it ?
[06:48] <rellim> oh hey, i am using xubuntu ... anyone know of any good samba clients?
[06:48] <s_spiff> Mr_Magic, thanks
[06:48] <brotherJohn1234> queuetue: look at 'packages.debian.org'
[06:48] <s_spiff> will check it out
[06:48] <pcfan> npster: can you check if there any servers in that file, after you connect ?
[06:49] <rambo3> relim i think there is something about that on easysoruce
[06:49] <rambo3> !easysource
[06:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:49] <npster> pcfan: I'll do it now
[06:49] <jordan__> stefg, Ok I have Tried Going To Google And UbuntuForums And Could not figre it out. I have A Wireless Rougher (Motorola SBG-900) And a Cable Modem Toshiba) But the Modem is in My Kitchen SO i cant Connect But i need internet connection Sharing. I Have a Usb, Telephone Port And a Lan Port. Thats It..
[06:49] <Plugh> bbiab
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: you want a script to copy logs over so you can look at them?
[06:49] <rellim> rambo3: ok, thanks
[06:49] <stefg> rellim: sadly the only samba client i've found was the crappy old xffm4 (xfsamba4)
[06:49] <jordan__> stefg, The site said to ask better questions so.
[06:50] <stefg> jordan__: i'm delighted to see it had an effect :-)
[06:50] <pcfan> npster: and check if a file names 0dns-up is in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
[06:50] <brotherJohn1234> queuetue: or even better : http://packages.debian.net/.
[06:50] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: it's alright I misunderstood
[06:50] <jordan__> stefg, :)
[06:50] <rellim> stefg: nope, i refuse ... i saw one that was really nice, it didn't look pretty but the feature set was awesome, i just can't remember the name of it
[06:50] <rellim> stefg: xffm4 was crap :/
[06:51] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: the goal is simply to be able to use the GUI remotely (from another computer)
[06:51] <stefg> FULL ACk!
[06:51] <npster> pcfan: the only thing that is in the resolv.conf file is this: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[06:51] <m1ckeyknox> TheGateKeeper: I don't want to have to leave a window manager running...
[06:51] <regeya> o_O
[06:51] <longwave> rellim: is it in the list at http://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/ ?
[06:52] <stefg> jordan__: so the point is that the router is the common junction point of your network... dont connect the PCs to each other, but connect each PC to the router
[06:52] <pcfan> npster: can you now in this moment, without  dsl-provider, surf  in mozilla ?
[06:52] <rellim> longwave: no, i think this might be ... http://jags.sourceforge.net/index.php
[06:52] <DarkPixel> how do i set up my root password?
[06:52] <npster> pcfan: I don't know
[06:52] <stefg> jordan__: this can be done by copper cable or via wireless
[06:52] <longwave> DarkPixel: why do you want a root password? the ubuntu way is to always use sudo
[06:52] <jrib> !root > DarkPixel
[06:52] <ventz> it seems if you do "Remote Desktop" vnc'ing into it is absolutely perfect. Is there any way to achieve that image quality when you simply vnc to the vncserver? Currently it's very pool in quality
[06:52] <npster> pcfan: No i cant
[06:52] <ventz> TheGateKeeper: ^^^
[06:53] <gigantor> @t
[06:53] <queuetue> Are there any guides to building apache debs from source?
[06:53] <gigantor> man..
[06:53] <pcfan> npster: ok and did you check that a file named 0dns-up is located in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ ?
[06:53] <totoz> if i use ubuntu and the most common apps how many gigs i need?
[06:53] <npster> pcfan: there is 0dns-up in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
[06:53] <jordan__> stefg, What copper cable. (But i cant connect To the rougher other than wireless without moving my Pc's And the rougter.
[06:53] <gigantor> totoz- 10 max probably
[06:53] <pcfan> npster: and 0000usepeerdns ?
[06:53] <gigantor> but you can use way less if you want
[06:54] <npster> pcfan: yes
[06:54] <totoz> listen music  watch vids   burn cd mainly
[06:54] <pcfan> npster: OH, there is another thing: check that you add "usepeerdns" in your ppp config file / provider file
[06:54] <gigantor> totoz- 5 would probably do the trick fine, if you don't install like huge games or vids
[06:54] <the_mug> what is the command to have apache run on boot... I thought I all I had to do was to add a file to /etc/default/apache2 and do NO_START=0 .... but it AIN'T working... for some reason
[06:54] <stefg> jordan__: so connect to the router wireless, and move the router if it's required by the locality
[06:54] <brotherJohn1234> queuetue: look at the sourcecode .. ( apt-get source apache2 { if you have deb-src's in your /etc/apt/sources.list } )
[06:54] <npster> pcfan: simpler
[06:54] <totoz> no games     play them on windows
[06:54] <chopchop_> hi, im trying to put xgl and compiz to work, but i have a problem with gnome-window-decorator , i dont have that on my comp. any help?
[06:54] <rambo3> totoz go for mythtv
[06:54] <gigantor> totoz- oh, well then make enough room for all that. The install will only take up like 1 or 2 gig max
[06:54] <longwave> queuetue: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html is a good resource for building debs from any source :)
[06:54] <the_mug> (BTW I compiled apache 2.2.2 and created my own init script this is why I'm doing this manually)
[06:54] <srikat> chopchop_, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[06:54] <vedder> Hi can't fix the grub problem
[06:55] <m1ckeyknox> ventz: check your client settings... if you're using tightvnc on windows at least... the configuration has very poor jpeg quality for the default settings.
[06:55] <vedder> hdc is hd2,0 in grub?
[06:55] <totoz> the program i need to see vids and listen music and burn cd are integrated in ubuntu installation?
[06:55] <pcfan> npster: what do you mean simpler ? do you use usepeerdns ?
[06:55] <jordan__> stefg, well im confused by that last one. The only problem is im not the only one using it. But i could move it. How do i connect directly to it?
[06:55] <gigantor> totoz- sort of. You will need to install the packages for mp3 and some video formats
[06:55] <longwave> the_mug: did you put your initscript in /etc/init.d then add it to the rc folders with update-rc.d ?
[06:56] <gigantor> totoz- ubuntu leaves that ability out by default, although the programs to play them are there
[06:56] <npster> pcfan: simpler, rephrase
[06:56] <m1ckeyknox> let's try this from the beginning...
[06:56] <rambo3> vedder not sure maby 1,0
[06:56] <gigantor> totoz- you just have to install the mp3 support, etc
[06:56] <m1ckeyknox> How can I login to a Ubuntu box remotely?
[06:56] <totoz> in windows i use bsplayer and winamp and nero               so i'd like to have something at the same level
[06:56] <MystaMax> ssh
[06:56] <gigantor> totoz- or codecs, rather
[06:56] <brotherJohn1234> m1ckeyknox: install ssh on the ubuntubox.
[06:56] <vedder> because i have hd2,0 but nothing
[06:56] <longwave> m1ckeyknox: install openssh-server on the remote box
[06:56] <gigantor> totoz- you have plent of options in ubuntu for things like that
[06:56] <vedder> i can't get that grub boot my win partition
[06:56] <m1ckeyknox> MystaMax & brotherJohn1234 & longwave with a GUI
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> m1ckeyknox: when you ssh into your server you can start X and the vnc server correct?
[06:57] <totoz> perfect            after dinner i'll install ubuntu
[06:57] <the_mug> longwave: I guess that's the step I missed. what is that command ?
[06:57] <pcfan> npster : in file: /etc/ppp/options or /etc/ppp/peers/provider or any other file you use for connecting, is there "usepeerdns"
[06:57] <MystaMax> m1ckeyknox, you want to look in the forums
[06:57] <vedder> 2 hours trying but nothing...
[06:57] <totoz> best mirc client for ubuntu?
[06:57] <totoz> xchat?
[06:57] <MystaMax> m1ckeyknox, theres a very good tutorial for that, let me see if i can find a link
[06:57] <longwave> the_mug: check "man rc-update.d", i don't remember the exact syntax
[06:57] <gigantor> totoz- i use kubuntu personally, you might try it if the layout is not to your liking
[06:57] <gigantor> but it should be fine
[06:57] <rambo3> vedder i think it is 1,0 , you can use grub from terminal to check it
[06:57] <longwave> the_mug: sorry, "man update-rc.d" :)
[06:57] <the_mug> longwave: thanks mate
[06:57] <npster> pcfan: I odn't know wich file I use :)
[06:57] <adam25> hi is it easy to install ubuntu alongside windows?
[06:58] <vedder> here we go---
[06:58] <m1ckeyknox> MystaMax: I shall yield my search crown to you if you find it... I couldn't find anything of relevance
[06:58] <gigantor> adam25- pretty much pie
[06:58] <pcfan> npster: how do you connect to the internet ?
[06:58] <adam25> I mean I already have windows installed
[06:58] <brotherJohn1234> m1ckeyknox: enable the Remote-Desktop ( it's only a mouse-click ) in the System/*(dont' know )-Menu. Than you can use vnc to connect to your ubuntu-box .
[06:58] <jrib> !dualboot > adam25
[06:58] <pcfan> npster: would you like to move to another channel ? a less busy one ?
[06:58] <m1ckeyknox> brotherJohn1234: only works when somebody is logged in
[06:58] <rodietze> hey dudes just o inform... if somebody here can't install Aptana I got a trick :D
[06:58] <gigantor> adam25- the installation allows you to partition (easily) and make room for ubuntu on your pc
[06:58] <npster> yes
[06:58] <adam25> ahhh
[06:58] <pcfan> npster so join: dada
[06:58] <npster> pcfan: come to #xubuntu
[06:58] <adam25> ok what bootloader does it use?
[06:58] <totoz> !dualboot
[06:58] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:58] <stefg> jordan__: see, the problem is that you try to establish a segmented network without knowing the basics about TCP/IP networking...  there's a physical side involved (all PCs have to be connected to the router directly, may it be by cable or wireless) and a logical one... subnets divided by the the third octet in the IP adress. This is beyond the scope of this channel, I'm sorry
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> adam25: have a look at this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[06:59] <gigantor> adam25- and then from there it will install a bootloader that lets you select either ubuntu or windows to boot to when you start your pc
[06:59] <adam25> sweet ok
[06:59] <longwave> adam25: it uses grub as the bootloader, it will detect your windows install and add it to the menu for you
[06:59] <brotherJohn1234> m1ckeyknox: than - this might help : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[06:59] <jordan__> stefg, Thats ok. I Will have to keep Trying
[06:59] <adam25> ok cool thx
[06:59] <proggi> hi there
[06:59] <stefg> jordan__: let me see if i can give you some links
[07:00] <MystaMax> m1ckeyknox, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191564
[07:00] <moonunit> anybody know anything about UFO:AI
[07:00] <sayno> Can someone pm me and help me get an smp kernel on my core duo laptop?  I know its suppsed to automatically be smp but "uname -a" displays: Linux D86 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:00] <harisund> jordan_ what seems to be the problem? (Sorry I just entered :)
[07:00] <proggi> does anyone know, why i can't copy the mpg-files from a svcd to my harddrive?
[07:00] <m1ckeyknox> MystaMax & brotherJohn1234: reading. thank you... will let you know how things work out
[07:01] <proggi> there is an input/output-error when i try to copy from /media/cdrom0/mpeg2/*.mpg to my harddrive
[07:01] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[07:02] <moonunit> i could really use some help with UFOAI if anyone knows anything about it
[07:02] <stefg> jordan__: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/networking-concepts-HOWTO.html
[07:02] <schorem> haya all
[07:02] <TheFuzzball> who knows how to install the latest firefox on Kubuntu?
[07:03] <flax> can anyone give me a pointer to get my junkmail working? i'm using dapper with evolution
[07:03] <gigantor> Fuzzball-  go to Adept and search for firefox
[07:03] <TheFuzzball> I have it uses 1.5.0.3 but the one I need is 1.5.0.5
[07:03] <vieirar> Hi I am trying to install libgnome2-dev but keep getting this error from apt-get....
[07:03] <vieirar> libgnome2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-dev (>= 2.7.91-3) but it is not going to be installed
[07:04] <totoz> difference between kubuntu desktop and alternate?
[07:04] <jcoiron> Hello. I searched on many websites but can't find why "libXft.so.1: can't open..." when launching DBDesigner4. Could someone help me ?
[07:04] <TheFuzzball> Kubuntu uses KDE
[07:04] <vieirar> What repo do I need to instal libgnomevfs2-dev?
[07:04] <gigantor> Fuzz- hmm..  well try going on getfirefox.com and see if they have a debian installation to choose from
[07:04] <TheFuzzball> k
[07:04] <harisund> gigantor will a debian .deb file work on ubuntu? In most cases it won't, right?
[07:04] <jordan__> stefg, I Just realized. I have accsess to a crossover cable.
[07:04] <Bazzi> TheFuzzball well, run an update
[07:04] <Bazzi> kubuntu has 1.5.0.6
[07:04] <Bazzi> err 1.5.0.5
[07:05] <TheFuzzball> sudo adept update?
[07:05] <gigantor> harisund- sure it will
[07:05] <totoz> i know it uses kde but on official website i see    kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso       and  kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[07:05] <TheFuzzball> no it doesn't
[07:05] <gigantor> harisund-  just right click it, goto Ubuntu packages, and click install package
[07:05] <Bazzi> it has
[07:05] <Armi^> hi all. These are my first steps in Ubuntu
[07:05] <Armi^> :D
[07:05] <totoz> welcome
[07:05] <harisund> oh ok gigantor .. i thought the binares weren't compatible
[07:05] <facugaich> Congrats Armi^
[07:05] <Armi^> thnx
[07:06] <gigantor> harisund-  it works in Kubuntu at least, it should be fine
[07:06] <Armi^> :D
[07:06] <Albatorsk> totoz: The Kubuntu Alternate CD uses the text installer instead of the new GUI installer. It needs less system memory and permits advanced installs with preseeded options as well as LVM or RAID disk configurations.
[07:06] <mevvis> hi all
[07:06] <harisund> ok cool.
[07:06] <Armi^> it works great
[07:06] <totoz> thanks Albatorsk     i'll for gui installation
[07:06] <totoz> :)
[07:06] <AAA> so why would a person want to install kubuntu instead of ubuntu and apt-get install kde ?
[07:06] <Mr_Magic> s_spiff: if you wanna add a another dns server that has to be reached add to following to your virtual interface dns-nameservers  <ip address> dns-search <dns.name> ;have a look at the man interfaces to add more static info
[07:07] <Albatorsk> AAA: Perhaps they're not installing it on a Internet connected computer
[07:07] <lhds> i have just installed cannot login as root how to change root pss?
[07:07] <stefg> jordan__: then be aware that you need to forward the packets from the connected box to the unconnected one..  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/ will help you to set that up
[07:07] <longwave> AAA: if they want the kde desktop straight away and don't want gnome on there at all?
[07:07] <facugaich> AAA: It's a matter if you like Gnome or not. Lots of ppl love lots of ppl hate it.
[07:07] <AAA> ok, just wondering if there was more of a difference than that
[07:07] <gigantor> lhds-  you use the "sudo" command to act as root when running things
[07:07] <totoz> % of gnome lovers and kde lovers?
[07:07] <gigantor> !sudo
[07:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:07] <lhds> i know wont work
[07:07] <Albatorsk> lhds: Interactive logins for the root user is disabled by default, and unless you have a good reason to change that, don't. Use sudo instead
[07:08] <Albatorsk> lhds: To enable it, run "sudo passwd" and set a password for root
[07:08] <lhds> sudo works su wont
[07:08] <longwave> totoz: very difficult to say, plus you have to count the people that prefer Xfce, or enlightenment, or one of the other desktops...
[07:08] <foomonkey> or if you just need to run several commands as root, you can sudo -i and have root terminal
[07:08] <AAA> lhds  that is because there ain't a root passwd =p
[07:08] <gigantor> lhds-  do what Albatorsk mentioned, or type "sudo -i"
[07:09] <stefg> lhds: that's by design... there is no superuser, only a user who can do things with superuser privileges
[07:09] <Lynoure> AAA: if you need it, try  sudo su
[07:09] <lhds> thanx guys
[07:09] <npster> WHO KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN FIREFOX FOR AUTODETECTING DNS ???
[07:10] <stefg> !caps
[07:10] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:10] <Albatorsk> npster: Firefox isn't supposed to autodetect DNS, as far as I know. But perhaps that only shows how ignorant I am ;)
[07:10] <marshall___> whats up guys
[07:10] <moonunit> can someone walk me through this install?
[07:11] <marshall___> im trying to copy a file off of my windows computer through nautilus, but it keeps telling me i dont have permissions
[07:11] <marshall___> moonunit: install of what?
[07:11] <facugaich> marshall___: sudo
[07:11] <moonunit> marshall__, #moonunit
[07:11] <Albatorsk> marshall__: Sounds like it's mounted with the wrong permissions. Did you mount it by hand?
[07:11] <stefg> marshall__ your mount options aren't right
[07:11] <marshall___> ohh
[07:11] <shinzetsu> When I try to install Ubuntu I get the error: Creating filesystem failed
[07:12] <flax> Does anyone here has junkmail working in evolution? and can anyone help me getting this to work? (any pointers?)
[07:12] <vincentmx> do you have a harddrive?
[07:12] <shinzetsu> Yes, I did the default toatl wipe
[07:12] <vincentmx> ok
[07:12] <moonunit> can somone help walk me through this install, if you can help, please join #moonunit
[07:12] <shinzetsu> total*
[07:13] <queuetue> This new dapper install I'm looking at does not appear to have an /etc/ld.so.conf ... am I missing something?
[07:13] <facugaich> moonunit: what install?
[07:13] <tjb891> were is lame located in the file system by default?
[07:13] <moonunit> facugaich, ufo:ai
[07:13] <facugaich> moonunit: what?
[07:13] <shinzetsu> tjb891: probably in /usr/etc/
[07:13] <tjb891> thx
[07:13] <schorem> is there a version with fluxbox? Or do I have to apt-get it?
[07:13] <moonunit> facugaich, its a game
[07:13] <shinzetsu> When I try to install Ubuntu I get the error: Creating filesystem failed
[07:14] <longwave> queuetue: /etc/ld.so.conf does not exist by default, just create it if it is not there and add whatever library directories you need
[07:14] <stefg> !fluxbox
[07:14] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[07:14] <ubul4> are there any other linux distros that fit on one cd. Most of the ones I have checked span over several cds.
[07:14] <schorem> damnsmalllinux DSL
[07:14] <tjb891> nope , isn't there
[07:15] <schorem> ubul4- DSL, Knoppix, Morphix, Slax. Need I go on? ;)
[07:15] <queuetue> longwave, It doens't exist by default?  This has got to be my 300th linux installation, and I've never had to create one before.... :)  Where does the system look for libs by default now?
[07:16] <marshall__> stefg: i did gksu nautilus <path>, the window came up but i had the same problem copying
[07:17] <marshall__> stefg: do you know how i can fix this?
[07:17] <longwave> queuetue: only /usr/lib and /lib by default ("man ld.so" has more info)
[07:18] <shinzetsu> When I try to install Ubuntu I get the error: Creating filesystem failed, can someone help me with it?
[07:18] <stefg> marshall__: it's gksudo nautilus... and to fix it i'd need to look at your /etc/fstab and sudo fdisk -l output pasted to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:18] <eniac_petrov> np: rainbow - tarot woman [2:50/6:01] 
[07:18] <longwave> shinzetsu: what filesystem are you trying to create and how have you got your disk partitioned?
[07:19] <tjb891> do any ubuntu media player have a sync funtion for mp3 players
[07:19] <jp> who knows how to deactivate active screen borders of compiz? I'm bored of them!
[07:19] <stefg> jp: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:19] <shinzetsu> It was NTFS, but I chose the total wipe default option
[07:20] <shinzetsu> after a time it gives me Failed to create filesystem
[07:20] <Gog123> why is the ubuntu updates coming in as unauthenticated?
[07:20] <marshall__> stefg: gksudo did the same thing as gksu
[07:20] <ruthless> \join #blackbox
[07:21] <Gog123> also is there a problem with the download servers for updates at this time?
[07:21] <VeePee-> Gog123: you've configured your sources.list to include some unofficial sources or something
[07:21] <_bt> VeePee-, mine are unauthenticated as well
[07:21] <d> s
[07:21] <_bt> and i haven't added any
[07:22] <Gog123> bt me neither
[07:22] <stefg> !gpg
[07:22] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[07:22] <VeePee-> oh, well dunno then
[07:22] <marc_> hi all
[07:22] <Gog123> bt:  something is wrong
[07:22] <longwave> Gog123: the security server has been slow or down for some people today
[07:22] <HaFa> hi, i installed a ubuntu 6.06 as a server version, after the Grub Menu the PC restarts automatically, somebody an idea why?
[07:22] <Gog123> longwave ill try it tomorrow
[07:22] <stefg> HaFa: broken initramfs?
[07:22] <ruthless> does anyone here use blackbox window manager?
[07:23] <marc_> how can i start the bootmanager for chaning the bootpartition? thx
[07:23] <Noia> how do I install from rpm ?
[07:23] <HaFa> the system has never been up from the fresh installed harddisk
[07:23] <stefg> !grub
[07:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:23] <longwave> !rpm > Noia
[07:23] <shinzetsu> longwave: you still there?
[07:23] <stefg> !alien
[07:23] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:23] <longwave> yes
[07:24] <longwave> shinzetsu: i don't know why you are getting that error, sorry
[07:25] <marshall__> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19408 <--- fstab
[07:26] <shinzetsu> longwave: alright
[07:26] <brotherJohn1234> shinzetsu: just for the testing. try to install ubuntu in text-mode. there you can see errormessages - which might point to the problem. ( on console 6 -- or so )
[07:26] <shinzetsu> alright ill try, im OS-less now =D
[07:26] <shinzetsu> brb
[07:27] <brotherJohn1234> a free mind :)
[07:27] <stefg> marshall__: ok, but there's no win partiton in it... so i'd need the sudo fdsik -l output to see where the windoes is
[07:27] <stefg> *sudo fdisk -l
[07:27] <marshall__> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19409 <--fdisk -l
[07:28] <stefg> k, mom
[07:28] <marshall__> stefg: im trying to copy a fille off another computer on my home network
[07:28] <kernelpanic> hi there, i've a little problem with nfs, i've shared a directory from my computer 1 and when i tried to mount this on my computer 2, i had this message : "permission denied"
[07:28] <marshall__> stefg: i also have a harddrive running windows on this computer
[07:28] <stefg> ahhhh... that's a different story
[07:28] <kernelpanic> anyone knows about it ?
[07:28] <stefg> marshall__you haven#t setup samba right
[07:28] <stefg> !samba
[07:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:28] <marshall__> stefg: id love to get my ubuntu drive and windows drive communicating on this computer too though
[07:29] <kernelpanic> my two computers are on ubuntu
[07:29] <mwe> I don't get icons on the desktop when kde automounts removeable media. what do I need to install?
[07:29] <npster> HOW DO I DO THINGS UNDER ROOT !???
[07:29] <stefg> marshall__ i'll edit your fstab for the 'internal' sharing, but samba is a different story
[07:30] <mwe> !caps
[07:30] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:30] <mevvis> :D
[07:30] <marshall__> stefg: ok, thatnks
[07:30] <brotherJohn1234> kernelpanic: don't know, what says '/var/log/syslog' on both computers ?
[07:30] <the_mug> any one have an addy for getting mp3 playback on Dapper?
[07:30] <shawnr_> npster, sudo
[07:30] <shawnr_> !sudo
[07:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:31] <kernelpanic> brotherJohn1234 > i'm going to see it
[07:31] <operative> hi all, im setting up a server, 2 questions, is there any good reason to have php4 and php5 installed? why does phppgadmin think that php has no postgresql support (using pg 8.1)
[07:31] <brotherJohn1234> kernelpanic: and ?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> !info enlightenment
[07:31] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[07:31] <kernelpanic> nothing special
[07:31] <HaFa> nobody an idea why my pc is keeping rebooting after a totally fresh installation of the server version?
[07:31] <operative> HaFa: its broken
[07:31] <marshall__> stefg: no, i havent set up samba. i was able to transfer files from my other computer already though
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> HaFa: power, memory, overheating or other hardware problem.
[07:32] <shawnr_> HaFa, static?
[07:32] <HaFa> but during the installation nothing happend :(
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> fyrestrtr: try the OliveCD you will be impressed :-)
[07:32] <ucordes> Is there a way to have different icons on each of the four desktops with XGL?
[07:32] <brotherJohn1234> kernelpanic: anything from rpc.mountd ? ( on the server ) ?
[07:32] <HaFa> and the recovery mode also directly after grub menu restarts the machine
[07:32] <shawnr_> HaFa, meaning maybe its not a software issue
[07:32] <shawnr_> hm
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> TheGateKeeper: always wanted to try e17 -- but thanks for the heads up, I'll give it a shot. If I am impressed, I'll compile it from source :D
[07:32] <HaFa> ok i reset the bios just to try
[07:33] <ubul4> can i choose which applications i want to install with the alternate iso? (for instance, i don't want openoffice.)
[07:33] <TheGateKeeper> fyrestrtr: OliveCD uses e17 and is based on mandriva (or whatever it's called these days)
[07:34] <shawnr_> ubul4, why don't you just install debian sarge, then add whatever you want
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> oh god I hate mandriva
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> ubul4: yes.
[07:34] <shawnr_> ubul4, or just remove everything you don't want after ubuntu install
[07:34] <ucordes> anybody has an answer to my XGL question above??
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> TheGateKeeper: www.elivecd.org :D
[07:34] <shawnr_> ubul4, or try the alternate iso, i don't know if it gives you that option though, someone else in here might
[07:34] <stefg> marshall__ replace your existing /etc/fsatb with this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19410 , and issue a 'sudo mkdir /media/windows && mount -a'. This will give you read access to your windows partition from linux. Read/write is possible, but still not recommended. See !fuse for details
[07:35] <mrgreen> errr how do you remove icons from desktop?
[07:35] <ubul4> shawnr_: i prefer a quick install, so it would be better if i could choose before
[07:35] <mama> shiet
[07:35] <Flannel> ucordes: #ubuntu-xgl is for XGL related support
[07:35] <shawnr_> ucordes, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:35] <ucordes> ok thank you
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> mrgreen: run gconf-editor apps > nautilus > desktop (I think)
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> fyrestrtr: me too, but was still impressed with OliveCD, could try EliveCD but I couldn't get that to start X correctly, others have been more successfull
[07:35] <mama> from waht?
[07:35] <mwe> ubul4: I did a server (minimal) install. then added stuff
[07:35] <mrgreen> thanks you ;-)
[07:36] <mama> of what are you talking about
[07:36] <mama> ??
[07:36] <Flannel> ubul4: you can roll your own ISO, so yes, it's possible, It's also possible to do a server and then add desktop things on your own. as mwe suggests
[07:36] <ubul4> Flannel: i'll try the server install, thanks.
[07:36] <shawnr_> ubul4, why don't you just go the debian sarge route, you can install the absolute minimal debian system. then add gnome and whatever else you like
[07:36] <shawnr_> or do what they suggest
[07:36] <ubul4> shawnr_: where can i find the minimal debian iso?
[07:36] <Flannel> shawnr_: er, that'd be almost the same as doing a server install, with less hassle ;)
[07:37] <shawnr_> lol
[07:37] <Flannel> er, more hassle.
[07:37] <belzar> anybody know how to make an .mpg file play on your site.. i have the site hooked up and its on my computer, i am just trying to get this .mpg to play on it
[07:37] <shawnr_> belzar, what browser?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> ubul4: #debian
[07:38] <shawnr_> !mplayer-mozilla
[07:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about mplayer-mozilla - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:38] <Giskard> hi guys
[07:38] <Flannel> ubul4: you'll be able to select the gnome meta package, that'll bring in a lot of the stuff you need.  You could ALSO just install the full one, and then remove OOo later.
[07:38] <marshall__> !fuse
[07:38] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:38] <Dattasmoon> hellow everyone, i added a drive to my lvm group & logical drive then when i was transfering some stuff to it "unmounted" it self and then i try to mount i get the error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19411
[07:38] <belzar> shawnr: I am using firefox if thats what you mean... but it doesnt work on the other computer using mozilla, i know its almost the same
[07:38] <belzar> or is the same
[07:38] <ubul4> shawnr_: debian seems to be 14cds...
[07:38] <Giskard> i was trying to install ubuntu 6.0.6 livecd but my serial mouse dont move, how can i enable it
[07:39] <shawnr_> ubul4, you only need the first
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> ubul4: ask in #debian please
[07:39] <shawnr_> ubul4, as long as you have a net connection you can install everything else from the repositories
[07:39] <stefg> !mouse
[07:39] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:39] <roe> ok, I am out of ideas, I have 2 fresh installs of ubuntu one server one desktop, running on different hardware, both have access to the internet, but neither can connect to the repos.  They are behind the same router, which is one of those netgear "business" router that have no rules setup
[07:39] <brotherJohn1234> ubotu: debian-binaries : 7 cd . + 7cd with sourcecode .
[07:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about debian-binaries : 7 cd . + 7cd with sourcecode . - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:39] <dstren> I've got a privilege problem with a mounted drive...
[07:39] <Giskard> ty ill read :P
[07:39] <dstren> can anyone help?
[07:39] <ubul4> shawnr_: do you mean this one? debian-31r2-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent
[07:39] <shawnr_> ubul4, yes
[07:39] <belzar> basically i am just not sure how to point at it on the site... im guess that <img src="file.mpg"> wont work
[07:40] <stefg> !me
[07:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about me - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:40] <stefg> !help
[07:40] <npster> I go under root to make a command and it says Permission Denied
[07:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:40] <cyphase> in the latest Firefox upgrade, under the Help menu, there's something called "Release Notes". It take you to http://www.ubuntu.com/support/releasenotes604 . It should be 606, and why is it there anyway? shouldn't it be in System->Help?
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> roe: have you tried different mirrors?
[07:40] <cyphase> takes*
[07:40] <eigenlambda> ooo... new firefox.  wonder what it added...
[07:40] <jbroome> security fix
[07:40] <belzar> haha i was thinking the same thing eigenlambda
[07:40] <AngryElf_> what package contains menuconfig?
[07:40] <Flannel> cyphase: youre right, that should be changed.  File a bug at launchpad about it please
[07:40] <dstren> i created a mounted drive as /home/me/drive1 (As user not root)
[07:40] <ubul4> shawnr_: ok, thx i'll go ahead and download that right now
[07:41] <Shinzetsu> I couldnt use text-mode, but I think its working now
[07:41] <Shinzetsu> It attached itself to / and its copying files
[07:41] <shawnr_> ubul4, from here on out ask for help in #debian if thats the route your gonna take
[07:41] <Giskard> :O but i that help its after the install, but on livecd i cant move mouse, so how can i install it?
[07:41] <eniac_petrov> hi all! I have a question.
[07:41] <dstren> then i 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/me/drive1'
[07:41] <brotherJohn1234> Shinzetsu: hmm. but hey - it works :)
[07:41] <dstren> then i did a 'chmod -R 777 /home/me/drive1
[07:41] <ubul4> shawnr_: would you say that the debian route is a harder route?
[07:41] <EricTheRed> i'm a c# developer - im looking for someone who has experience developing c# apps under mono on ubuntu
[07:41] <EricTheRed> .
[07:41] <EricTheRed> .
[07:42] <dstren> but it's still says root only
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> dstren: chmod doesn't change the owner
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> EricTheRed: my condolences :-)
[07:42] <concept10> EricTheRed, you may want to chek the gnome/mono channels
[07:42] <Flannel> dstren: you'll need to change your umask  DONT chmod... or, well, you already did.  Ugly ugly ugly.
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> dstren: just the permissions
[07:42] <shawnr_> ubul4, i wouldn't no.. its not "harder". just that the setup isn't as "automatic" as ubuntu. ubuntu uses the live cd, and configures everything for you
[07:42] <eigenlambda> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#firefox1.5.0.5 is what the new version adds
[07:42] <eigenlambda> i think
[07:42] <facugaich> EricTheRed: also /join #C#
[07:43] <dstren> well, i can always delete the mount and go again
[07:43] <Flannel> dstren: except it's already chmodded
[07:43] <shawnr_> ubul4, its all menu based.
[07:43] <kung> hi there is anyone running a combined 32/64bit system (amd64 + 32bit libs)?
[07:43] <ubul4> shawnr_: and debian is not menu based installation?
[07:43] <eniac_petrov> I have 3 users on my pc, but I want to make 4-th. user who will be limited, and who will be with restricted "READ" pribileges on other user's home folders. Maybe I must use chmod? ( excuse me for my english)
[07:44] <npster> I GO UNDER ROOT (SUDO) AND IT SAYS WHEN I DO A COMMAND PERMISSION DENIED !?
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> ubul4: *ask* *in* *#debian*
[07:44] <shawnr_> ubul4, no im saying debian install IS menu based
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> npster: hit your capslock key, maybe you are typing your password in all caps.
[07:44] <Flannel> ubul4: As is ubuntus, the installation isn't the thing that'll take you lotsof time, its configuring a bunch of stuff, and tracking down what you want.
[07:44] <TheGateKeeper> EricTheRed: I could be persuaded if it pays obsene amounts of money :-)
[07:44] <Lvip> Anyone in here has experience with xsane?
[07:45] <npster> no my password is numbers
[07:45] <dstren> can i fix it?
[07:45] <shawnr_> Flannel, but I think thats what he is looking for, something he can customize MORE for exactly what he wants
[07:45] <shawnr_> from the very start
[07:45] <Giskard> hmmm can i install ubuntu with livecd without mouse?
[07:46] <Flannel> shawnr_: I think he just doesn't want OOo, maybe a few others, starting with a desktop and subtracting still sounds awfully appealing, I don't know how much he wants to remove though
[07:46] <ucordes> #ubuntu-xgl sucks- nobody helps there!
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> #xgl :)
[07:46] <brotherJohn1234> Giskard: hardly- select 'alternative ( or so )' at the bootprompt - with starts the text-install. - where is no mouse in the text-install :)
[07:46] <shawnr_> Flannel, that what i origonally told him, to just remove it lol but he doesn't want to do that... lol go figure
[07:46] <Flannel> ucordes: XGL isn't supported by ubuntu yet, but yeah, any XGL channel should bethe same
[07:46] <roe> can anyone help with my difficulty connecting to the repositories?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> Giskard: you'll need the alternate cd for that, the livecd doesn't have an option for that.
[07:47] <Dattasmoon> can anyone help me with this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19412
[07:47] <Flannel> npster: What command are you giving it (exactly)?
[07:47] <brotherJohn1234> oh.
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> roe: what seems to be the problem?
[07:47] <shawnr_> Giskard, x complains alot if you don't have a mouse, in some cases it may not start without one
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> Giskard: what kind of mutant mouse do you have?
[07:47] <shawnr_> lol
[07:48] <longwave> Dattasmoon: what is /dev/storage?
[07:48] <brotherJohn1234> teanage mutant hero mouse :)
[07:48] <Dattasmoon> longwave: a lvm logical drive
[07:48] <ucordes> Flannel: yea in #xgl they won't help, too. i just want to deactivate the window expose function when i point to the corners
[07:48] <roe> I have both an ubuntu "Desktop" and "Server" frsh installs, I can resolve the repos, and ping the repos but can't connect to them
[07:48] <longwave> Dattasmoon: ah ok, sorry i dont know about lvm
[07:48] <npster> Flannel: sudo echo nameserver 62.162.32.5 >> /etc/resolv.conf
[07:48] <Giskard> a serial one
[07:49] <shawnr_> ucordes, gconf-editor
[07:49] <Dattasmoon> longwave: i don't think it has to do with lvm.. but i could be wrong
[07:49] <roe> they are both behind one of those netgear "business class" routers with no rules setup that would cause any issues with port 80
[07:49] <ucordes> thank you
[07:49] <longwave> Dattasmoon: do you have the lvm packages installed? can the lvm tools see your lvm config correctly?
[07:50] <Giskard> but like i said i c the main window, the install icon, but mouse doesnt work, so how can i install it and use the how to manual to use serial mouse
[07:50] <Dattasmoon> longwave: i assume so, all the tools seems to work
[07:50] <roe> I just get "Failed to Fetch" and "connction failed"
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: gconf-editor, then apps > compiz > plugins > switcher > screen0 > options
[07:50] <vedder> someone with experience in set up grub? i have hours trying to fix a problem without luck
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: sorry, its the zoom plugin plugins > zoom > allscreens > options
[07:51] <Jared5> Hey, I know this is a stupid question, but what is used to theme ubuntu...isn't it x something?
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> roe: someone was asking about that router earlier this afternoon, I am guessing that you would need to read the router documentation, strange that you can ping but actually connect.
[07:52] <Lvip> You mean the X Window System, Jared5?
[07:52] <shawnr_> Jared5, you talking about creating your own themes?
[07:52] <Jared5> sure? :)
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> not actually connect (even)
[07:52] <longwave> Dattasmoon: is there already a working filesystem on /dev/storage, or did you just create it?
[07:52] <Jared5> i'm looking for one to download and am curious to what i would need to look for
[07:52] <Lvip> If your answer to shawnr_'s question is yes, Jared5.
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> !iptables
[07:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[07:52] <Lvip> Then it doesn't matter if it is X, Jared5.
[07:53] <Dattasmoon> longwave: it is created by lvm, it is aucutally /dev/stor/storage
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Jared5: gnome themes can be found at gnome-look.org (don't know if that helps)
[07:53] <Lvip> As X is the main graphical engine.
[07:53] <Jared5> alrighty
[07:53] <Lvip> Or art.gnome.org
[07:53] <roe> do repoes connect back on a different port?
[07:53] <shawnr_> Jared5, metacity is the window manager
[07:53] <longwave> Dattasmoon: ok, but you have run some form of mkfs on /dev/stor/storage since you created it with the lvm tools?
[07:53] <TheGateKeeper> roe you could install firestarter and check the iptables firewall
[07:53] <shawnr_> Jared5, no one really know what your asking lol
[07:53] <Lvip> But Metacity is used by GNOME.
[07:53] <Dattasmoon> correct, ext3
[07:53] <vedder> i need with grub, please i can use my win partition
[07:53] <bubbles> hi
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[07:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:53] <roe> TheGateKeeper: if I could apt-get I could :)
[07:53] <Lvip> !X11
[07:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:54] <Jared5> speaking of routers not workin never buy the wrt54g v.5 linksys router, unless you have windows to fix the things in it first. Some about it being vmware and you have to change it
[07:54] <longwave> Dattasmoon: hrm, i am not sure then. if nobody else can help in here you should probably ask on the ubuntu forums
[07:54] <Azzco> Is there anyone here that could help me a bit? I'm having problems with the sound in the playstation emulator pcsx
[07:54] <TheGateKeeper> roe: catch 22, you could look at iptables via the cli, not so nice
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Jared5: you could always install a linux-based image on it ;)
[07:54] <bubbles> http://nopaste.php-q.net/229469 <-- can anyone help me with that? (wine)
[07:55] <shawnr_> Lvip, you know if its possible to force a lcd monitor to to display larger then the max in the manual. ist that really like the "optimum"
[07:55] <stefg> bubbles: #wine
[07:55] <bubbles> :>
[07:55] <Plugh> I'm back from lunch. Did locutus_ get his sound problems fixed?
[07:55] <longwave> shawnr_: no, the maximum possible lcd resolution is also the optimum one :)
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: its the 'native' resolution, generally the best for your lcd.
[07:55] <Azzco> is there maybe a channel for pcsx?
[07:56] <TheGateKeeper> everyone thinks we are wine experts in here :-)
[07:56] <shawnr_> just pisses me off
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> TheGateKeeper: well, the liquid version......
[07:56] <longwave> TheGateKeeper: i like drinking it, does that help? ;)
[07:56] <shawnr_> i spend tons of money on a 19in widescreen and the max is 1440
[07:56] <shawnr_> i want 1680! lol
[07:56] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: lol
[07:56] <Azzco> lol TheGateKeeper
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> rofl
[07:57] <Plugh> shawnr_: didn't you check the resolution of the monitor before you purchased it?
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> !framebuffer
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about framebuffer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:57] <shawnr_> everything else was too expensive lol
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, no framebuffer console
[07:57] <shawnr_> im a broke biotch
[07:57] <shawnr_> lol
[07:57] <shawnr_> still looks nice as hell
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> what brand?
[07:58] <shawnr_> especially with xgl/compiz
[07:58] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: Write up a wiki page for it and get a factoid put in the bot
[07:58] <shawnr_> aahhhh eye candy
[07:58] <Plugh> IIRC, to get to 1680 you would need a 20"
[07:58] <shawnr_> fyrs, rosewill
[07:58] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, rosewill
[07:58] <shammy> I keep losing my connection, forcing me to deactivate and activate wlan0,.. why would this be happening and how could i fix it. Uninstall and reinstall the driver in ndiswrapper?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> rosewill?
[07:58] <shawnr_> yea
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> never heard of it.
[07:58] <shawnr_> from newegg
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> hope you got a deal.
[07:58] <shawnr_> its nice
[07:58] <stefg> to get 1680 first of all you'll need new glasses :-)
[07:59] <Plugh> stefg: :-)
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> lol stefg
[07:59] <shawnr_> stefg, 1680 isn't hard to read on a 20+ inch ;)
[07:59] <inc|freaky> hi all, im trying to get ssl working, but i get 500 OOPS: SSL: cannot load RSA certificate - i have rsa_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/vsftpd.pem in the vsftpd.conf and the file is readable ... can someone help me? im talking about vsftpd ;)
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: hrmm, might just do that.
[08:01] <scr1lla> quick question
[08:01] <AngryElf_> what package contains menuconfig/xconfig etc?
[08:01] <Dattasmoon> ok, if a superblock has an invalid ext3 journal then does it need to be formated?
[08:01] <shawnr_> !menu
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about menu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:01] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: I, for one, would bookmark it in a second :)
[08:01] <shawnr_> ubotu you stink
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about you stink - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:01] <shawnr_> lol
[08:01] <shawnr_> oops
[08:02] <scr1lla> configure: error: *** Can't find recent OpenSSL libcrypto (see config.log for details) ***
[08:02] <scr1lla> which packages should i install with apt-get
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: install the ssl dev libraries
[08:02] <scr1lla> i know libcrypto
[08:02] <scr1lla> i tried apt-get install libcrypt
[08:02] <pedda> How do I change the locale from the default UTF8 to ISO-8859-1?
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> !info libssl-dev
[08:02] <ubotu> libssl-dev: SSL development libraries, header files and documentation. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.9.8a-7build1 (dapper), package size 1974 kB, installed size 5548 kB
[08:02] <scr1lla> and that aint working, where do i find the proper package name for it
[08:02] <pedda> Can't find anything in the support forums.
[08:02] <stefg> !locale
[08:02] <scr1lla> its going
[08:02] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: that's what you need
[08:02] <AngryElf_> !kernel
[08:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:02] <scr1lla> ubotu: where do you find these names?
[08:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about where do you find these names? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:03] <pedda> ubotu Thanks you!
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about Thanks you! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:03] <stefg> !botabuse
[08:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: I have this magic 8-ball...
[08:03] <scr1lla> fyrestrtr seriously
[08:03] <scr1lla> hah
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: apt-cache search is a *very* handy tool.
[08:03] <scr1lla> ill try that
[08:03] <scr1lla> thanks mang
[08:04] <scr1lla> apt-get pkgnames
[08:04] <scr1lla> heh
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: also, try !software if you are trying to build something from source first.
[08:04] <bangalore_guy> hi fyrestrtr
[08:04] <eniac_petrov> excuse me, can you help me about one problem? - I want to unset read and write privileges on /c and /d ( my win32 partitions) only for one user
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> hey bangalore_guy
[08:04] <scr1lla> thats enough for now
[08:04] <Plugh> !session
[08:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about session - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:04] <scr1lla> gkrellm is not on the packages right?
[08:04] <Plugh> !sessions
[08:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about sessions - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: sure it is.
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> hi fyrestrtr
[08:04] <dura> Hai fyrestrtr
[08:04] <longwave> !info gkrellm
[08:04] <ubotu> gkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB
[08:04] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr, how are you doing?
[08:05] <shynzetsu> Hey, Default res is 1280x1024 but my left side doesnt fit entirely (the right one does). When I switch to 1024x768 the view gets scrambled and it ends the current X session
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> not bad, watching some comedy, compiling some projects, working on some stuff.
[08:05] <scr1lla> apt-get install gkrellm
[08:05] <scr1lla> is not finding it
[08:05] <longwave> scr1lla: have you added the universe repository?
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[08:05] <dura> scr1lla: apt-cache search gkrellm |less
[08:05] <dura> oh
[08:05] <dura> heh
[08:05] <scr1lla> dura: done that, not there
[08:05] <scr1lla> from where?
[08:05] <bangalore_guy> fyrestrtr: I couldnt get that working last night :(
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: read !repositories
[08:05] <dura> Yep... add repositiries
[08:05] <longwave> !repository
[08:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:05] <scr1lla> <- FreeBSD moron
[08:05] <dura> lol
[08:06] <dura> <--- moron in general
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> bangalore_guy: sorry to hear that :(
[08:06] <scr1lla> heh
[08:06] <scr1lla> let me google that shit real quick yo
[08:06] <Dattasmoon> is there a way to fix a bad superblock?
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: pg please
[08:06] <dura> scr1lla: edit /etc/apt/cources.list
[08:06] <dura> uncomment the universe/multivers lines
[08:06] <scr1lla> i am as we speak
[08:06] <dura> remove the #
[08:06] <gregg__> Dattasmoon: use an alternate superblock
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: easiest way for you, would be to use !easysource
[08:06] <longwave> Dattasmoon: there is a backup (or several backups) of the superblock but i am not sure about recovering it
[08:06] <dura> cool
[08:06] <dura> then sudo apt-get update
[08:06] <longwave> Dattasmoon: does fsck find anything on that volume?
[08:06] <scr1lla> yep thanks d
[08:06] <dura> then apt-get install gkrellm
[08:06] <scr1lla> word, sec
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: Question..  In doing a backup as per the page from the bot is the restore command the same to restore the hard drive image the same running live as well as from a regular install
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: don't know what you are referring to.
[08:07] <tomas_> My computer has no sounds
[08:07] <tomas_> I am sure that v0lume is On
[08:07] <scr1lla> its going
[08:07] <tomveens> what is wrong with security.ubuntu.com?
[08:07] <shynzetsu> Hey, Default res is 1280x1024 but my left side doesnt fit entirely (the right one does). When I switch to 1024x768 the view gets scrambled and it ends the current X session
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> man Bernie Mac is hillarious
[08:07] <tomas_> this only happens when i used ubuntu
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > fyrestrtr:
[08:07] <scr1lla> thanks dura/fyre
[08:07] <tomas_> help
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> tomveens: could be down.
[08:07] <tomveens> what is wrong with security.ubuntu.com?
[08:07] <trygvebw> http://throwawayyourtv.com/2006/07/microsoft-photosynth.html hawt
[08:07] <Dattasmoon> longwave: nope it is ext3 not reiser
[08:08] <trygvebw> i want that in gphoto :p
[08:08] <tomveens> think so
[08:08] <tomveens> any news found about it?
[08:08] <dura> scr1lla: np
[08:08] <SonicChao> Tom39Away, ?????
[08:08] <brotherJohn1234> tomas_ <fun>sing for yourself</fun> :)
[08:08] <scr1lla> nigga
[08:08] <dura> I'm happy to help out fellow morons :)
[08:08] <SonicChao> tomveens, What?
[08:08] <dura> hehe
[08:08] <Tom39Away> SonicChao, pardon?
[08:08] <scr1lla> i had a hell of a time getting my Xpress 200 radeon (ATI) card to work
[08:08] <longwave> Dattasmoon: there is fsck for ext3 too :)
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> the command they use and I have used to restore my system I used while running off the hard drive and not from a live cd
[08:08] <SonicChao> Tom39Away, Sorry, tab error.
[08:08] <dura> scr1lla: Yeah I have 9600 Pros in my laptops.
[08:08] <dura> but I don't run Ubuntu on them
[08:09] <SonicChao> Tom39Away, I ment to ping tomveens, sorry.
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: yeap, welcome to the wonderful world of ati and its worthless linux drivers.
[08:09] <scr1lla> gkrellm is going
[08:09] <Dattasmoon> oh? um guess i dun have that one
[08:09] <longwave> tomveens: there are lots of security updates today and the server is slow because everyone is downloading them
[08:09] <Tom39Away> SonicChao, no problem.
[08:09] <scr1lla> ATI is for loosers
[08:09] <longwave> tomveens: if it is failing for you, try again later or tomorrow
[08:09] <scr1lla> even #ati folks are clueless about ATI shit
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> !language
[08:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:09] <SonicChao> Tom39Away, It gets hard when so many people have almost the same name. XD
[08:09] <scr1lla> i called ati and this tech support gimpo told me "use it as is"
[08:09] <gregg__> fyrestrtr: shut the fuck up! ;)
[08:09] <dura> scr1lla: ATi is fine... it's their drivers...
[08:09] <scr1lla> G1dzz0r:#ati> i herad a rumour that ati had released a driver for xorg 7.1?
[08:09] <tritium> scr1lla: language, please
[08:09] <dura> But AMD will fix that now that they own ATi.
[08:10] <tomveens> if I want so set commercial repo on, Do I have to turn the multiverse off?
[08:10] <scr1lla> they only hear rumours
[08:10] <Flannel> npster: that's your problem, You have sudo permission for the echo nameserver thing, but not the tee, if you rewrite it as sudo echo nameserv 62.asfasd. tee /etc/resolv.conf, you'll be ok
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: fwiw, for laptops -- the binary drivers from ati.com work best because they come with power management features (ie, "powerplay")
[08:10] <hackel> ATI is not fine since they release no specs.
[08:10] <shynzetsu> Hey, Default res is 1280x1024 but my left side doesnt fit entirely (the right one does). When I switch to 1024x768 the view gets scrambled and it ends the current X session
[08:10] <scr1lla> thats what they be about, rumours
[08:10] <SonicChao> tomveens, no you don't.
[08:10] <scr1lla> brb
[08:10] <dura> hackel: nVidia doesn't release much either.
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: do you have a lcd monitor?
[08:10] <gregg__> dura: that's not an excuse... a piece of hardware without drivers is worthless/unusuable
[08:10] <dura> gregg__: Blame Microsoft...
[08:10] <scr1lla> ATI/NVIDIA AVOID LIKE PLAGUE
[08:10] <scr1lla> period.
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> shynzetsu: is that a wife screen monitor
[08:10] <hackel> scr1lla:  Exactly.
[08:10] <dura> Companies have had no choice...
[08:11] <Otacon22> what command I need for format totally a disk?
[08:11] <casanova--> ok guys
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: what's left?
[08:11] <scrappy_> is there a text file that xclipboard stores stuff in that i can parse like last line or entry or whatever?
[08:11] <scr1lla> not much
[08:11] <dura> If they didn't cater to M$ they wouldn't have a business heh
[08:11] <casanova--> i have a problem with the crappy drivers that ubuntu ships with
[08:11] <scr1lla> i got to install a bunch of crap
[08:11] <shynzetsu> yes i have an 17" acer lcd monitor
[08:11] <gregg__> dura: I don't get it, how did microsoft force ATI to make really really bad linux drivers?
[08:11] <scr1lla> ill be back in a bit.
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> and there is the point. nvidia is the lesser of two evils.
[08:11] <tomveens> In the gnome packetmanager you can chose opera, and when you choose it you get a question if you want commerciall repo on, but when you say yes then you get the same message.
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> gregg__: that's easy, they didn't.
[08:11] <scr1lla> quick question
[08:11] <shawnr_> who wants to see my xgl/compiz in action !!!! ???? ;)
[08:11] <vvheritagevv> otacon22: fdisk
[08:11] <Otacon22> tnx
[08:11] <scr1lla> whats a good MS ISA proxy client for ubuntu
[08:11] <casanova--> i have a horizontal refresh rate at 75200 Hz!
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> casanova--: Nice way to greet people you want to help you
[08:11] <dura> gregg__: If ATi could release specs they would... besides what would ATi do if M$ dropped support for their hardware?
[08:11] <shawnr_> with full screen video! ;)
[08:11] <gregg__> scr1lla: nvidai works well in linux and freebsd
[08:12] <tritium> AMD bought ATI.  Things may improve now...
[08:12] <scr1lla> gregg: both sucks, stop it.
[08:12] <scr1lla> yes
[08:12] <Dattasmoon> longwave: yes the e2fsck sees it it says : Superblock has an invalid ext3 hournal (inode 8). Clear<y>? will this delete everything on the drive?
[08:12] <dura> I said that too tritium
[08:12] <dura> And I think they will...
[08:12] <tritium> dura: ah :)
[08:12] <scr1lla> thats why they release a couple drivers, because AMD is a bit friendly
[08:12] <casanova--> Jack_Sparrow i'm a debian developer and i think i should move on with ubuntu as well
[08:12] <dura> casanova--: Really?
[08:12] <shawnr_> check it out.. i love eye candy! ;) http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/xgl_xompiz.png
[08:12] <dura> Is Debian that much of a mess atm?
[08:12] <longwave> Dattasmoon: i am not exactly sure what that message means, sorry..
[08:12] <shawnr_> i love this desktop lol
[08:12] <dura> I know unstable/testing is :|
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: ctrl+alt+pgdn ;)
[08:12] <tomveens> Commercial repo is not going to set on
[08:12] <gregg__> dura: do you really think so? MS dropping support for ATI? WTF? it's ATI who writes the drivers
[08:13] <Spec> (Please move the off-topic nVidia/ATI conversation over to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[08:13] <tomveens> know the problem
[08:13] <dura> gregg__: Read what I said...
[08:13] <tomveens> ?
[08:13] <casanova--> dura yeah ... ok my problem is that i have an old ibm monitor (of course 17" crt)
[08:13] <longwave> Dattasmoon: i *think* it is safe to clear an ext3 journal if the drive was properly unmounted last time, but i am not 100% on that
[08:13] <scr1lla> like
[08:13] <dura> casanova--: I use many of those
[08:13] <scr1lla> is it possible to install apache+php from apt-get?
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> scr1lla: yes
[08:13] <tritium> scr1lla: of course
[08:13] <Spec> scr1lla: yes
[08:13] <dura> fyrestrtr: btw http://duralinux.lfs1.net
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> !lamp
[08:13] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:13] <dura> scr1lla: Yes
[08:13] <stefg> !lamp
[08:13] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: do you know what i might try to fix it?
[08:13] <scr1lla> damn
[08:13] <scr1lla> that was some fast answer
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: what kind of monitor do you have? is it a lcd or a crt monitor?
[08:13] <casanova--> dura and my ATI driver (Radeon 9550) with kernel 2.6.11 and 64 bit "breezy"
[08:13] <dura> scr1lla: Docs are your friend... there'a howto for almost anything.
[08:13] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, did you check out my desktop pic? i finally got fullscreen mplayer running smooth
[08:14] <casanova--> dura it gives 75.2 kHz refresh rate with the monitor
[08:14] <gregg__> dura: sorry, can you explain it a little bit more?
[08:14] <scr1lla> dura: true, brb
[08:14] <dura> casanova--: Hmm... I could probably fix it
[08:14] <tritium> casanova--: blame ati, not ubuntu, for poor drivers
[08:14] <scr1lla> but considering we are morons i guess asking is cool
[08:14] <scr1lla> you are in general, i be in bsd
[08:14] <scr1lla> thats whatsup
[08:14] <scr1lla> hah just kidding
[08:14] <tritium> !enter > scr1lla
[08:14] <dura> gregg__: Why would M$ want ATi to support it's competition? And they would loose money too
[08:14] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: a 17"  lcd
[08:14] <ubuntulivecd> I need some help. I need to chroot to my ubuntu install located on hdb1 and reinstall grub on hda
[08:14] <scr1lla> be back in a while
[08:14] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: Acer
[08:14] <hackel> Anyone else with basic (ATI) AC97 audio found a way to get (flash) sound working in Firefox with esd running?  Using aoss, it kind-of works, but will still cause a crash if I don't properly stop a video and e.g. just click on a link instead.  It's very annoying!
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: hit the 'auto adjust' button on the front, that should fix it.
[08:14] <ubuntulivecd> anybody can help?
[08:14] <casanova--> tritium yeah, i am... ATi has generally good drivers for windows/mac but pure organic shit for any open source OS
[08:15] <dura> casanova--: Do you know what the rates should be for your monitor?
[08:15] <shynzetsu> it doesnt
[08:15] <shawnr_> ubuntulivecd, whats the problem
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> hackel: try !dmix
[08:15] <ozzloy> i have a brand new ubuntu install and the network is being spotty.  the cables are fine.  the connection works sometimes.  how do i troubleshoot now?
[08:15] <dura> casanova--: If so, email me your xorg.conf and the specs.
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: what is the model number?
[08:15] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: it shoves the image ever further to the left, then returns to the same cut-off view
[08:15] <dura> gregg__: Look at the business end...
[08:15] <dura> It's not just ATi and nVidia
[08:15] <tomas_> I am having no sound anyone know of solution'
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: I have an Acer 17" too, and it works fine.
[08:15] <casanova--> dura okay, i'll go and do it manually in the x.org.conf - i think 70-90 H and 50-65 V
[08:15] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: forgot
[08:15] <stefg> !sound
[08:15] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:15] <shynzetsu> is it black?
[08:15] <Spec> !shirts
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> AL1715 or something like that?
[08:15] <dura> casanova--:  okay or try X --configure
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about shirts - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:15] <hackel> fyrestrtr:  I tried that too without success.  I keep trying to play with different settings.  Maybe it's just a crappy chip.
[08:15] <sysdoc> Dattasmoon, yes the superblock can be fixed
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> hackel: could be.
[08:16] <dura> X --configuire will try and configure everything automagically.
[08:16] <ubuntulivecd> shawnr_: hda mounted as /home died on me today. I got a new disk and replaced it. ubuntu is installed on hdb1. I need to reinstall grub on hda1
[08:16] <Dattasmoon> sysdoc, good :)
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> casanova--: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:16] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: black w/ the power led next to the power button between the power (most right) and auto adjust button?
[08:16] <casanova--> dura i usually do it with the command line interface or just raw edit the file with Emacs from another computer
[08:16] <shynzetsu> forget the ' next to the power'
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: I think so, let me fetch an image.
[08:16] <dura> casanova--:  Yes... I do too. If editing doesn't work, make a backup of xorg.conf and give X --configure a shot.
[08:17] <casanova--> okay
[08:17] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, can you "tile" windows on the workspace, not like the f12 where you have to select a window... just tile
[08:17] <casanova--> maybe i should just use the SiS integrated card?
[08:17] <gregg__> dura: I still don't see how they are connected. Microsoft builds operating systems. ATI builds graphics cards plus drivers. They decide for themselves which operating systems they want to support.
[08:17] <dura> gregg__: Why are there no OSS drivers for many wifi cards?
[08:17] <dura> modems?
[08:17] <dura> other hardware?
[08:17] <dura> same reason
[08:17] <dura> heh
[08:18] <scrappy_> ubuntulivecd: i normally just sudo grub then root (hd1,0) then setup (hd0)
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> gregg__: ONe of those hands washes the other...
[08:18] <dura> All those companies need to support whatever makes them money.
[08:18] <dura> Thank you Jack_Sparrow
[08:18] <casanova--> dura cos i am trying to get my files out of this puter
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:18] <gregg__> dura: of course
[08:18] <casanova--> dura and show off kde to my windows maniac friend here
[08:18] <dura> gregg__: That's why... the all-mighty $
[08:18] <ozzloy> is there a special way to ask questions in here?
[08:18] <dura> casanova--: hehe
[08:18] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, can you "tile" windows on the workspace, not like the f12 where you have to select a window... just tile
[08:19] <dura> casanova--: Tell me what you think: http://duralinux.lfs1.net/images/screenshots/
[08:19] <dura> FVWM-Crystal
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[08:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:19] <scrappy_> ozzloy: as long as you dont paste a page of error messages your good i think :)
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: sure, its one of the F11 keys, I don't have xgl on right now, but its there.
[08:19] <ozzloy> scrappy_: thanks
[08:20] <shynzetsu> fyrestrtr: alright ill wait
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: mine is the silver one with the buttons near the bottom center. Silver front, black back. I also have the black one you have.
[08:20] <gregg__> dura: still, it's not microsoft's fault that linux drivers are bad/nonexistent
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ozzloy: If you need to paste.. we have a special way to do it
[08:20] <shynzetsu> ah
[08:20] <shynzetsu> well the live cd worked fine actually
[08:20] <dura> gregg__: Okay
[08:20] <casanova--> ok boot
[08:20] <dura> If you say so :)
[08:20] <shynzetsu> lemme reboot
[08:20] <ubuntulivecd> scrappy_: I'll try that, and I'll be back in a second
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> shynzetsu: did you play with xorg.conf? Mine worked fine from the start.
[08:21] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, f11 just singles out one window, i whats the pont of that??
[08:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ho do i display in a terminal what driver my graphics card is using
[08:21] <ozzloy> i'm troubleshooting a spotty connection.  it's not the cables.  the card worked for a span of 10 seconds to load google, now nothing.  suggestions?
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> brb
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> gregg__: you dont bite the hand that is feeding you (especially Microsoft) by supporting a different opertating system.  They might just find the next security upgrade causes havock with a particular brand of card
[08:23] <pedda2> I need to install localeconf for Ubuntu. Ive downloaded the source files as they were'nt available as a .deb package. How do I install the source files? there's no make file or README?
[08:23] <ozzloy> ifconfig shows an ip, pinging that ip works, pinging the router does not (right now).
[08:23] <scrappy_> pedda2: im showing that in the repo
[08:23] <dura> ozzloy: Is /etc/resolv.conf right?
[08:24] <pedda2> ozzloy Have you set up a default gateway/router?
[08:24] <gregg__> Jack_Sparrow: I don't believe in such things. In the end it would hurt microsoft itself.
[08:24] <jrib> my deskbar-applet is greyed out and does not let me enter text.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:24] <pedda2> scrappy : Repo?
 hey jack im still hanging in there with ubuntu, Although it seems to be this radeon 9250 driver that s giving me trouble
[08:24] <ozzloy> i have not set up a default anything.  brand new install.  dura it has the line nameserver 192.168.1.1
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gregg__: HAve you seen the price of Microsoft shares over the last two years...
[08:25] <dura> heh Jack_Sparrow
[08:25] <scrappy_> pedda2: one of the repositories listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <roe> for anyone suffering from the same issue I was, where apt wasn't working I fixed it
[08:25] <FurryNemesis> ozzloy, that's your routher IP
[08:25] <Chons> hi
[08:25] <FurryNemesis> ozzloy, router IP sorry
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> HEy Paddy_EIRE nice to see you.. let me know if you need anything
[08:25] <ozzloy> i loaded google.com once though
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> roe how?
[08:25] <ozzloy> a few minutes ago
[08:26] <pedda2> scrappy : Should I add another installation source in that file? I don't follow.
[08:26] <ozzloy> FurryNemesis: what should it be?
 how do i display what the current driver that my graphics card is using in the terminal
[08:26] <roe> TheGateKeeper: in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf the line Acquire::http::proxy "false"
[08:26] <roe> remove it
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I assume lspci
[08:26] <roe> and it all works
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont do much cli stuff
[08:26] <pedda2> scrappy : My first line is deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> roe: well done
[08:26] <FurryNemesis> ozzloy,
[08:27] <pedda2> scrappy : But localeconf isn't available.
[08:27] <roe> can't take the credit, most goes to google :)
[08:27] <pedda2> scrappy : Is there a another one?
[08:27] <FurryNemesis> ozzloy, I have no idea - but your router IP is different from your real IP
[08:27] <t1> grr...
[08:27] <ozzloy> FurryNemesis: yeah, i know that
[08:27] <gregg__> Jack_Sparrow: not really
[08:28] <Giskard> im reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto for ubuntu 4 and 5, will this work for 6 too?
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Lost half its value over the last two years
[08:28] <dura> and still dropping
 check this out http://www.epic.org/privacy/consumer/microsoft/palladium.html
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> THis isnt the place for this discussion.. sorry people
[08:28] <SonicChao> !offtopic
[08:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:28] <gregg__> Jack_Sparrow: it's a tiring discussion, too
[08:29] <gregg__> Jack_Sparrow: I didn't know they dropped so dramatically, though
[08:29] <scrappy_> pedda2: im using dapper and it is in the universe repo you might just remove the # comment in front of any other urls listed in sources.list like: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit the file and then sudo apt-get update
[08:29] <ardchoille> I have two computers behind the same router. I notice that both computers have the same IP when I visit http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ . Is this normal?
[08:29] <longwave> ardchoille: yes, your ISP only gives you one IP address so your router shares it between all computers on your network
[08:29] <pedda2> scrappy : Ok, thank you!
[08:29] <ardchoille> longwave: Ahh, ok, thanks
[08:29] <scrappy_> pedda2: np
[08:30] <OneSeventeen> how do I access my microphone's volume slider?  Alsamixer doesn't have one for it
[08:30] <stefg> ardchoille: NAT.... to the outside world only the routers IP (which it got from your ISP) is visible
[08:30] <OneSeventeen> (if I talk right next to the microphone, it is audible, but not by much)
[08:30] <ardchoille> longwave: So how does the router know which box to send things to? Is that where the 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3 come into play?
[08:30] <ardchoille> stefg: That makes sense.
[08:31] <longwave> ardchoille: using NAT that stefg mentioned, it keeps track of which computer makes which request so it knows how to reroute the responses back to the right one
[08:31] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyone here thats found a sure fire method of getting an Ati Radeon 9250 working as i have tried just about everything
[08:31] <ardchoille> Ahh, cool
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: did you know the last security update from MS told all computers to call microsoft every 24 hours and report what MS products were installed
[08:31] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[08:31] <Paddy_EIRE> WGA
[08:31] <ardchoille> heh, I learn a little more each day =)
[08:31] <Chons> is there a way to install packages if the dependencies are not satisfied?
[08:32] <Paddy_EIRE> i found a workaround for my friends as i no longer touch MS
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[08:32] <longwave> ardchoille: if you want all the technical details there is a good description on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> kill-wpa
[08:32] <aztracker1> can anyone help, trying to get vmware player working in dapper (I have all the updates), tried w/ gcc3.4 and 4, get the following error during install.. (note: the one in apt won't work)
[08:32] <ardchoille> longwave: Yes, Thank you very much :)
[08:32] <pedda2> scrappy : Worked perfectly. Thanks again!
[08:32] <aztracker1> Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
[08:32] <aztracker1> make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only'
[08:32] <aztracker1> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
[08:32] <aztracker1> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386'
[08:32] <aztracker1>   CC [M]   /tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
[08:32] <aztracker1> /tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c: In function LinuxDriverCheckPadding:
[08:32] <aztracker1> /tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:2289: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[08:32] <longwave> !paste
[08:32] <aztracker1> Please submit a full bug report,
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:32] <aztracker1> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
[08:33] <aztracker1> longwave, thx, sorry.
[08:33] <MZM> whataf?!? I just lost some mails in KMail
[08:33] <longwave> aztracker1: if the compiler is segfaulting that is often an indication of bad ram or other hardware
 i had a bumby start with linux as i downloaded and installed Mandrake 10.1 at start of year not knowing that it was no longer supported, although i feel at home on ubuntu
[08:34] <Gassed> hi
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: glad to have you here
[08:35] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: I started with Redhat 9, knowing nothing about Fedora which had been out for ages :)
[08:35] <ozzloy> another thing: networking works reliably when boot off the livecd.  how does that help me fix networking when booting from the hdd?
[08:35] <Gassed> I shared a folder using SMB  (/media/OVERDRIVE) but when I use a Windows achine to share files it asks for a username and password - what do I use?
[08:35] <longwave> ozzloy: networking on the live cd and the hdd install should be the same unless you changed settings on the installed version..
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ozzloy: IT helps to know your hardware is working
[08:35] <Paddy_EIRE> what other linux os would be good to learn with as i still have my test machine sitting doin nothing right now
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Kubuntu or Mepis 6
[08:36] <longwave> Paddy_EIRE: or if you want something that's a bit like linux but a bit different in some ways, try freebsd
[08:36] <azureal> hi, does anyone know the correct umask or dmask options to be able to write to a drive as a regular user?
[08:36] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: If you want an alternative to learn with then maybe try a BSD
[08:36] <Chons> Paddy_EIRE: or opensolaris
 i Keep hearing alot about SlackWare and Gentoo
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: what is the format of that drive
[08:36] <azureal> vfat
[08:36] <ozzloy> thanks Jack_Sparrow longwave
[08:37] <Gassed> What username and password do I use on a Windows machine to access a shared folder using SMB on my Ubuntu machine?
[08:37] <mwe> freebsd rocks. my ISP is running it on most servers
[08:37] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Gentoo has it's advantages, but I don't know of any advantages with Slackware
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: that is the fun of it.. explore them all.
[08:37] <Gassed> CentOS is good for hosting
[08:37] <idefine> hi, is there a way to map the front volume control to the master volume control?
[08:37] <longwave> Paddy_EIRE: gentoo and slackware are good if you want to learn how linux works "under the hood"
[08:37] <dbeal> Can someone tell me why I should run ubuntu instead of Debian?
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: You can just use the dismounter script
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[08:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:37] <azureal> jack_sparrow: right now for options I only have "users,rw"
[08:37] <zipper_> I've got ubuntu 6.06 installed. Is it possible for me to completely change my current linux installation to the current release of kubuntu? Tried removing ubuntu-desktop and installing kubuntu-desktop, but that still leaves a lot of ubuntu stuff behind
[08:37] <Warbo> dbeal: It depends what you want. Run whichever suits you
[08:37] <Gassed> dbeal: It's completely your choice what you run
[08:37] <longwave> Paddy_EIRE: gentoo forces you to get dirty with the command line just to install it :)
[08:38] <mwe> dbeal: well ease of use, friendly community
[08:38] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah well under the hood is what i wanna be learning
[08:38] <dbeal> Warbo, Gassed, looking for something distinctive about it.
[08:38] <azureal> jack_sparrow: dismounter script?! i just want the options
[08:38] <Warbo> dbeal: It installs a fully usable desktop by default, and fits on one CD
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry I dont even think about them any more..
[08:38] <longwave> dbeal: ubuntu generally updates more regularly than debian
[08:38] <Gassed> dbeal: look on Google for some advantages / disadvantages? Ive used Ubuntu for a while and its relatively easy and has not alot of problerms
[08:38] <Paddy_EIRE> I've heard Gentoos' latest release is going to include a graphical installer
[08:38] <longwave> dbeal: if you install debian stable now, several packages are outdated
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> dbeal: I moved from debian to ubuntu due to hardware issues amoungst other things
[08:39] <dbeal> Warbo, Debian also installs a fully usable desktop.  The installer size depends on how many packages you include.
[08:39] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Kororaa was created to make Gentoo easier to install (but everyone knows it for it's XGL CD :) )
[08:39] <ozzloy> ok i'm reinstalling from 6.06 cd
[08:39] <Gassed> dbeal: Ubuntu comes with all essential software - including OpenOffice
[08:39] <stefg> Guys, although it's an interessting phlosophical discourse, it's ore at home in#ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <ozzloy> that way it's at a known state
[08:39] <tritium> dbeal: if you need proprietary drivers, ubuntu includes them in linux-restricted-modules packages.  Debian remomove proprietary drivers/firmware from their kernels
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[08:39] <Warbo> dbeal: I always install Debian from the first ISO, and it just gives me a CLI from which I install everything else
[08:40] <mwe> I always use the small iso and download everything later
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> dbeal: I got 3 of everything when I tried debian
[08:40] <Gassed> dbeal: But it's entirely your choice
[08:40] <Gassed> Can someone help me with Samba?
[08:40] <dbeal> tritium, I've noticed that...I'm not trying to start a debate, just really looking for something different about it.
[08:40] <dbeal> Thanks for the information.
[08:40] <stefg> !offtopic
[08:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: Adjust as needed for your drive type and mount point
[08:40] <tritium> dbeal: I know you're not, and we're not trying to disparage debian.
[08:41] <sam-sarnie> how do i get 5.1 surround sound working ??
[08:41] <Warbo> Anybody know how to add custom something:// URL handlers to Epiphany?
[08:41] <Gassed> _ I need help with SMB filesharing
[08:41] <stefg> !samba
[08:41] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:41] <Polypterus> Hi. I've got an Avaya Wireless Silver PCMCIA card. It doesn't work out of the box. Does anyone know how I can get it working?
[08:41] <stefg> !wifi
[08:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:41] <mwe> dbeal: there is nothing in ubuntu you can't do in debian with a little hard work
[08:42] <flax> anyone here that can help me with junkmail in evolution? i dont know how to configure it :(
[08:42] <idefine>  my function-volume-up key increases the volume of the master volume control in alsa. is there a way to make it raise the volume of the front volume control
[08:42] <azureal> jack_sparrow: i still cant write to it as reg user
[08:42] <azureal> (after doing mount -a)
[08:42] <vevak> need help regarding the microphone issue on ubuntu 6.06 on my dell inspiron 1300
[08:42] <mwe> dbeal: personally I run debain stable on servers and ubuntu on my laptop
[08:43] <Gassed> Why does everyone insist in ignoring me
[08:43] <Warbo> idefine: Is that controled by PCM? If so then it is probably possible
[08:43] <chipp> how do i disable autostart X?
[08:43] <mwe> Gassed: we don't. it's a busy place
[08:43] <sam-sarnie> is there some thing i need to install to get surround sound working ??
[08:43] <mwe> chipp: install rcconf and disable gdm
[08:43] <Gassed> mwe: Ive asked lots and everyone else asks 1ce and gets an answer
[08:43] <tritium> chipp: use update-rc.d to disable gdm
[08:43] <mwe> chipp: or sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[08:44] <Gassed> !smb
[08:44] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone recommend an IBM thinkpad laptop as a good compatible machine to run ubuntu on
[08:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about smb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:44] <Polypterus> stefg: Thanks. My card isn't in the list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[08:44] <Gassed> !samba
[08:44] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:44] <i3dmaster> I can't use Terminus font anymore on gnome-termianl or xfce4-terminal. It is simply not in the font list. What's going on?
[08:44] <Warbo> Gassed: I help where I can, but I have never even attempted using Samba (or even networking Windows>Windows) in my life :)
[08:44] <tritium> chipp: the debian Reference recommends the update-rc.d as the preferred method
[08:44] <idefine> Warbo: yes, it is controlled by pcm
[08:44] <Gassed> Warbo: It's aLinux>Windows
[08:44] <ozzloy> what other ubuntu irc channels are there?
[08:44] <chipp> tritium. ok..
[08:45] <Warbo> Gassed: Exactly. I managed to get NFS going once
[08:45] <Gassed> Warbo: Ubuntu share a folder with Windows but it asks for a user/passwd but it wont accept my user/pwd
[08:45] <mwe> tritium: update-rc.d disable? is that some new option? I didn't see that in the documentation.
[08:45] <Gassed> NFS if for UNIX filesharing
[08:45] <stefg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:45] <Warbo> Gassed: That's what I am saying; I have never used it, so stop asking me :)
[08:45] <Gassed> Warbo: I didnt just ask you - you just answered
[08:46] <i3dmaster> I can't see Terminus in the font list anymore. What wrong with it?
[08:46] <stefg> Gassed, you need corresponding user accounts on win and the samba-server... read documentation
[08:46] <mwe> tritium: the problem with the update-rc.d method is it forgets the startup number of the service and in which runlevels it was activated I think
[08:46] <Gassed> stefg: Thats a little bad.
[08:46] <Gassed> What if it asks for a user and password
[08:47] <Boris^Britva> Can someone help me to set-up virtual users on vsFTPd?
[08:47] <tritium> mwe: that could be
[08:47] <BSDnux> is it possible to create virtual servers with dedicated IPs using QEMU?
[08:47] <mwe> tritium: hence I use rcconf as it remember those things
[08:47] <dbeal> I'm not that happy with ubuntu so far.  I think they have some
[08:47] <dbeal> vague ideals.
[08:47] <mwe> dbeal: then don't use it
[08:48] <Warbo> dbeal: /join #debian :)
[08:48] <i3dmaster> Why I can't see Terminus font in the font list?
[08:48] <mwe> dbeal: it's probably hard to get someone to say they don't like ubuntu in here
[08:48] <shawnr_> !gl2
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about gl2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <shawnr_> !gl
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about gl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <shawnr_> crap
[08:48] <Warbo> !xgl
[08:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:48] <JC> Greetings.  I have started migrating my wife from Windows to Ubuntu and I've come up with something that I just can't figure out how tom ake happen
[08:48] <azureal> Jack_Sparrow: lame....i had to restart...
[08:48] <tritium> shawnr_: /msg the bot!
[08:48] <JC> She uses EBay alot, and is trying to sell stuff
[08:49] <mwe> !msgthebot
[08:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:49] <JC> In windows (IE), when she clicks "browse folders" to upload a new image, she gets a file viewer with thumbnails
[08:49] <JC> with firefox, its just a file list
[08:49] <gorgeousjunkie> so I try to download the sun jre and I get an error saying I am missing the .bin files from the repositories
[08:49] <JC> anyone know how to change it to show thumbnails instead of file names?
[08:49] <dbeal> mwe, it seems like ubuntu mirrors Debian's package structure to the extent that if there is a Debian package, then it is most likely in ubuntu.
[08:50] <mwe> dbeal: yes
[08:50] <Boris^Britva> JC, is it so hard to remember name of the file? :)
[08:50] <azureal> i thought w/ linux one would not need to restart...
[08:50] <ardchoille> JC: I don't believe you can do that as Firefox uses the gtk open/save dialog.
[08:50] <JC> boris: yeah, we have lots of picts
[08:50] <idefine> Warbo: any ideas?
[08:50] <longwave> jc: you can try dragging the image direct from nautilus into the file upload box, instead of clicking browse
[08:50] <Warbo> JC: I don't use Firefox much, but maybe setting the files' icons to the image itself may help?
[08:50] <JC> ardchoille: bummer, that's exactly what I thought
[08:50] <Boris^Britva> well you can do thumbnail view in nautilus
[08:51] <Boris^Britva> when you've found it there
[08:51] <Warbo> idefine: Sorry :(
[08:51] <JC> hrm, there's an idea longwave
[08:51] <Boris^Britva> just copy the name of file
[08:51] <Boris^Britva> to firefox window
[08:51] <scrilla_> when my screen server goes on
[08:51] <scrilla_> like
[08:51] <gorgeousjunkie> so I try to download the sun jre and I get an error saying I am missing the .bin files from the repositories
[08:51] <scrilla_> it is not locking the system
[08:51] <mwe> dbeal: for a desktop the config tools are what I like in ubuntu. other than that it's basically identical to debian
[08:51] <JC> I'll have her try that tonight and see how it works out
[08:51] <scrilla_> i move the mouse and it wont ask for a password or anything
[08:51] <scrilla_> whys that
[08:51] <scrilla_> like i cant really lock my system on X
[08:52] <longwave> JC: if that doesn't work directly this firefox extension may help: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2190/
[08:52] <Boris^Britva> Can someone explain how do I set-up virtual users in vsFTPd?
[08:52] <scrilla_> why cant i lock my system with the screen saver?
[08:52] <drew> hello, I'd like to create a symbolic link so that I can share my GAIM logs between windows and ubuntu, so could someone help me type the command?  I know it's relatively simple, I'm just bad at this kinda thing and don't wanna delete everything:-p
[08:52] <scrilla_> the "lock system" option is on
[08:52] <JC> cool, thanks longwave
[08:52] <rednaxel> my 7-yro daughter loves Ubuntu, she boots it more often than Windows
[08:52] <azureal> scrilla_: can you just put all your thoughts into one paragraph, then hit enter?
[08:52] <stefg> JC: linux is not a copy of windows, but worse...It's a different approach to things, so there might even be a completly different way of uploading images...
[08:52] <JC> oh, I know stefg, I'm a linux server admin here at work
[08:52] <scrilla_> I want to lock X through the screensaver, when the screensaver is on I want it to ask for a password
[08:52] <admin__> I got problems installing my graphic drivers
[08:53] <gorgeousjunkie> so I try to download the sun jre and I get an error saying I am missing the .bin files from the repositories
[08:53] <JC> I'm trying to get my wife to use Ubuntu
[08:53] <Warbo> !ati
[08:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <tritium> gorgeousjunkie: don't download it.  Use the ubuntu package
[08:53] <ardchoille> JC: I just tried dragging and dropping a file from nautilus to firefox, it didn't work. However, I found something that does work. Open nautilus, right-click on a pic, choose "copy", then go to firefox and ctrl+c in the file upload box.
[08:53] <Warbo> !java
[08:53] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:53] <gorgeousjunkie> tritium I am
[08:53] <azureal> scrilla_: gnome, kde..?
[08:53] <longwave> JC: i've successfully switched my girlfriend from xp to ubuntu, she much prefers it now
[08:53] <scrilla_> azureal : GNOME
[08:53] <Boris^Britva> No one setted up virtual users in vsftpd?
[08:53] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo I went to the java page
[08:53] <drew> could someone please help me with symbolic links? I know it isn't hard
[08:53] <sledmouth> !flashplugin
[08:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about flashplugin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:53] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Don't install the sun-java5-doc package, since that needs some extra setting up
[08:54] <cracko> how do i save the settings for alsamixer
[08:54] <Boris^Britva> !vsftpd
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about vsftpd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <cracko> so when i  reboot i dont have to configure it again
[08:54] <Warbo> drew: "ln -s /path/to/realfile /path/to/link"
[08:54] <sledmouth> !flashplayer
[08:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <shawnr_> there a way to improve mplayer performace under compiz, the audio sync is all messed up
[08:54] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo I must have the sun jre
[08:54] <mwe> Boris^Britva: I don't mean to be arrogant, but isn't it explained in the documentation that comes with it?
[08:54] <tritium> gorgeousjunkie: you have multiverse repo setup properly?
[08:54] <drew> Warbo, does the linked folder have to exist or does that command create it?
[08:54] <scrilla_> azureal any tips?
[08:54] <ardchoille> JC: You can also, find a pic in nautilus, highlight it, ctrl+c, then go to firefox and ctrl+v in the upload box
[08:54] <tulio> how do I dial a adsl with ubuntu?? i have a modem in bridge mode
[08:54] <sharyari> elo
[08:54] <gorgeousjunkie> tritium I have all repositories selected
[08:55] <tritium> gorgeousjunkie: and you've updated your package list, and tried to install sun-java5-jre?
[08:55] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: What I am saying is, install the package sun-java5-bin, but not the sun-java5-doc, unless you want to go through a little bit of extra work, just to get the documentation
[08:55] <Boris^Britva> mwe, how do I think would I ask 3 days in a row if it would be explained in the documentation that comes with the server?
[08:55] <shiv> I am trying to make link for Office apps installed in wine. When I drag them to desktop they won't work. What am I doing wrong?
[08:55] <JC> ok, looks like I have somethings to try tonight, thanks for the ideas
[08:55] <azureal> scrilla_: so in gnome control center, screensaver, you checked off Activate.... and Lock screen...
[08:55] <scrilla_> yes
[08:55] <scrilla_> correct
[08:55] <tulio> Jack_Sparrow: hey man, do you know how do i dial a dsl connection??
[08:55] <sharyari> I've got this little problem with ubuntu, I can't use sudo because the timestamp is too far into the future (two hours). What can I do about that?
[08:55] <shawnr_> shiv, wine file.exe
[08:55] <mwe> Boris^Britva: how should I know you've been asking for three days?
[08:55] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo, I can even gethat far it's requesting a bin that is nt in my repository
[08:55] <Boris^Britva> I need to bring this server to server room soon, and I haven't setted up this damn vsftpd yet
[08:55] <scrilla_> "activate screensaver when the session is inactive"
[08:55] <Boris^Britva> well, how should you know that I didn't looked in the manual?
[08:55] <tritium> gorgeousjunkie: see my last question
[08:56] <scrilla_> "lock screen when the screensaver is on"
[08:56] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[08:56] <drew> Warbo, Got it, thanks!:)
[08:56] <mwe> Boris^Britva: whatever
[08:56] <Boris^Britva> u helped me a lot :)
[08:56] <Boris^Britva> any web-hosting server admins here?
[08:57] <JC> i am, but heading to a meeting in 3 mins
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo "The following packages are BROKEN:
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie>   sun-java5-jre
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> Need to get 7341kB of archives. After unpacking 16.1MB will be used.
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie>   sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) which is a virtual package. or
[08:57] <shiv> shawnr: when I put this on desktop Wine POWERPNT.exe it does not work :(
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie>                           ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) which is a virtual package.
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> Resolving dependencies...
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> Unable to resolve dependencies!  Giving up...
[08:57] <gorgeousjunkie> Abort."
[08:57] <JC> though, honestly boris, I use CentOS on my web servers
[08:57] <Warbo> !pastebin > gorgeousjunkie
[08:57] <Boris^Britva> JC, bad ;(
[08:58] <gorgeousjunkie> will do in future SO?
[08:58] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Then do what I originally said, and install sun-java5-bin
[08:58] <tritium> gorgeousjunkie: don't paste here!
[08:58] <azureal> idk..
[08:58] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo then how do I do it?
[08:58] <Krpano> is it possible to set the login screen resolution ?
[08:58] <Warbo> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin (or just use a graphical package manager)
[08:58] <scrilla_> that sucks
[08:58] <mwe> Boris^Britva: funny. I'm reading the documentation right now. it's eplained there and there are examples as well. what distribution are you running?
[08:59] <Warbo> Krpano: I think it defaults to the highest available
[08:59] <Krpano> oki doki
[08:59] <Krpano> thx
[08:59] <spc> hi all, finally popped in Ubuntu LiveCD on an old PC, I got so excited by it I went to install.... then had problems ever since.
[08:59] <mwe> Boris^Britva: /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/FAQ.gz
[08:59] <Warbo> spc: As in, problems with the installation, or problems after it is installed?
[08:59] <spc> I've got a 20 GB HD with Win XP, and a brand new 250 GB HD to put Ubuntu on.
[08:59] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo just did it so will it work now?
[08:59] <mwe> Boris^Britva: and /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/EXAMPLE
[09:00] <spc> I got error 18, so tried changing my partitions.
[09:00] <azureal> scrilla_ i'm at a loss as to why it doesn't work
[09:00] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: If it went through "setting up sun-java5-bin" and stuff then yes
[09:00] <spc> Warbo: problems after the first install - wouldn't boot, then gets worse everything I do to fix it.  :)
[09:00] <mwe> Boris^Britva: so don't be freaking annoying, saying it's not documented
[09:00] <scrilla_> yep
[09:00] <azureal> scrilla_ when screensaver runs, you  said that you got a blank screen...and if you clicked the login would not pop up?
[09:00] <Warbo> spc: How are the HDs configured?
[09:01] <jrib> can anyone running beagle do this "ps -ef | grep beagle" and verify for me that your beagled and beagled-helper get run with the --debug arguments?
[09:01] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo still doesn't work
[09:02] <Warbo> (as in, what interface do they use [USB, SATA, IDE, etc.] , and what order are tehy in?)
[09:02] <balsat> good evening
[09:02] <spc> warbo: first mistake - I had the new one set to cable select, and the old one set to what I hoped was cable select.  That's how I did the first install.  After it had problems, I switched jumpers so 250 GB (Ubuntu) was master, other was slave.  That gave me weird unreadable text errors, so now I've got the Win XP HD as Master, other as slave, and am finally in live cd again.
[09:02] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Can you paste the single line from "sudo dpkg -l | grep java5-bin" please
[09:02] <scrilla_> xscreensaver?
[09:02] <spc> warbo: oh, IDE
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> spc: Can we assume you have windows as well on that system, what are the current partitions
[09:02] <azureal> scrilla_: you could also just set up your keyboard shortcuts...make some shortcut to lock your screen
[09:02] <ozzloy> thanks longwave Jack_Sparrow  pedda et al.
[09:02] <scrilla_> azureal: with what, with the screensaver?
[09:02] <spc> warbo: the 250 GB is on end of cable.
[09:02] <gorgeousjunkie> one sec warbo
[09:03] <joebu23> hello, I am looking for a driver
[09:03] <sledmouth> which repository includes flashplugin-nonfree ?
[09:03] <spc> Actually, I hadn't used the PC for probably 2 or 3 years really, and Win XP won't usually boot :_
[09:03] <azureal> at least it'll be locked =P
[09:03] <sledmouth> for dapper 6.06?
[09:03] <jrib> sledmouth: dapper multiverse
[09:03] <spc> It starts booting, but never finishes.
[09:03] <joebu23> i need a driver for a panasonic (matsushita) TY-TP50P6-S touch panel module for dapper
[09:03] <balsat> if you have given in terminal  su instead of sudo lost my rights is that to turn back
[09:03] <Warbo> spc: Well you will need GRUB to be installed on the first drive, and make sure your devices are pointing to the right place. Can you mount your Ubuntu install from the LiveCD and look in the file boot/grub/menu.lst inside it, then pastebin it please?
[09:03] <Warbo> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:03] <spc> Oh, I also tried disconnecting 20 GB HD completely, but wouldn't go anywhere
[09:04] <spc> warbo: checking now
[09:05] <sledmouth> jrib: could you please cut/paste the repos line from sources.list?
[09:05] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19421
[09:05] <jrib> sledmouth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[09:05] <pekuja> It used to be that the server installation option was basically a minimal installation, is there still a minimal installation option somewhere?
[09:05] <pekuja> I'm guessing the current server installation is actually a server and not a minimal installation.
[09:05] <sledmouth> thanks
[09:05] <pekuja> does the alternate install cd have this?
[09:06] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: OK, can you pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list, cos it looks like you might not have multiverse
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: would you know the tar command to restore a backup to sda3 an ext3 Ubuntu install while running a livecd with the hard drive Ub mounted
[09:06] <spc> warbo: I should have clarified that I tried re-running the installer and reformatting the partition to have a small /boot partition, per advice on the multiple bugs filed on the code 18.  The installer keeps crashing on a long error string that has something to do with partitions / primary / logical / it's all confusing to me at this point.  :)  that's why I'm here!
[09:07] <spc> Thanks all for helping!
[09:08] <mwe> I thougt multiverse didn't receive updates from security.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <TheGateKeeper> spc: not a maxtor by chance?
[09:08] <Otacon22> hem
[09:08] <Otacon22> anyone know why i have this message:
[09:08] <Otacon22> root@V-Server:~# grub-install /dev/hdc
[09:08] <Otacon22> /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[09:08] <Otacon22> root@V-Server:~#
[09:08] <Otacon22> ?
[09:08] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19422
[09:08] <spc> warbo: having to reboot, had found that the /root partition actually wasn't formatted anymore (somehow)
[09:08] <dbeal> Thanks for all the information.
[09:08] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: "tar -xf filename.tar" would extract a tar, so if it has been archived relative to the root (ie. it contains everything starting at the / of the partition) then mounting the partition, putting the arhcive in it's root and extracting it like that should do. I don't know whether it would overwrite files or not
[09:08] <spc> TheGateKeeper: no :)  Caviar
[09:09] <mwe> Otacon22: wrong drive?
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> spc: ok :-)
[09:09] <Otacon22> hem
[09:09] <mwe> Otacon22: /dev/hdc is usually the cd
[09:09] <Otacon22> hem no...
[09:09] <joebu23> anyone know how to find out if a specific device is supported in dapper?
[09:09] <Otacon22> in my case
[09:09] <Otacon22> is an hdd
[09:09] <mwe> Otacon22: ok
[09:09] <Otacon22> and I want to put alla data on it
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[09:09] <Otacon22> and change actual hd with this
[09:10] <Otacon22> but i need installa grub on it...
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I think I understand what to do
[09:10] <benyameen> I have a IPN2220 wireless card in my laptop, and ubuntu wont recognise it. Any help? =/
[09:10] <mwe> Otacon22: yes
[09:10] <spc> btw, halfway through graphical install the graphics stop, just get text.  for awhile was getting strange beeping sound for about two minutes at the Enterprise Storage something System item...why is it checking that item?
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > joebu23
[09:10] <Otacon22> what I have to do?
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> joebu23: there is a hardware compatibity info in the ubuntu wiki
[09:10] <mwe> does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc work without errors?
[09:10] <blinker> where can I get a working, preferably a fully enabled and up-to-date sources.list file?
[09:10] <mwe> Otacon22: ^^
[09:10] <bbrazil> !easysource
[09:10] <Otacon22> hem
[09:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:10] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: That's weird. The only thing I can think of is that ie.archive.ubuntu.com might not have the right package. Try running "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then adding a line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse", saving, updating Apt, then trying again
[09:11] <jrib> can anyone running beagle do this "ps -ef | grep beagle" and verify for me that your beagled and beagled-helper get run with the --debug arguments?
[09:11] <Otacon22> I have already formatted with gparted
[09:11] <benyameen> I have a IPN2220 wireless card in my laptop, and ubuntu wont recognise it. Any help? =/
[09:11] <mwe> Otacon22: that command does not format
[09:11] <Warbo> spc: I don't like the grahpical installer yet. Too many bugs and not enough features :)
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > blinker
[09:11] <balsat> i com back later bye
[09:12] <mwe> Otacon22: it show the partitions. I want to see if this is grub specific thats why
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> benyameen: Do you know what chipset that has
[09:12] <benyameen> nope, not off the top of my head
[09:12] <blinker> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[09:13] <blinker> i'll check it out
[09:13] <mwe> ben_d: IPN220 ?
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> blinker: np
[09:13] <benyameen> yes mwe
[09:13] <mwe> ben_d: not ipw2200?
[09:13] <benyameen> IPN2220
[09:13] <benyameen> ^
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> benyameen: It is kinda important so we can help you get the right driver
[09:13] <spc> warbo: so it's really new, then?  Is there a guide for the text install?  I can work on command line a little, but am very new.  (at work we use embedded QNX, but do limited tasks on it.)
[09:13] <benyameen> where would i find what chipset i have?
[09:14] <mwe> ben_d: well that's too bad. ipw2200 would have been a piece of cake ;)
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> benyameen: Usually the mfg site or google
[09:14] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo trying what cmmand again?
[09:14] <Warbo> spc: Make sure the root(hdX,X) is set up right in menu.lst (hd0 is the first drive, and 0 is it's first partition). It must point to your /boot partition and the "kernel" line must say /vmlinuz-whatever (not /boot/vmlinuz-whatever). Make sure initrd is the same, then make sure "root=/dev/device" is pointing to your root (/) partition
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> benyameen: We could do it for you but you would not learn as much
[09:14] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Go into Syanptic and install sun-java5-bin from there, it is easier :)
[09:14] <Warbo> !synaptic
[09:14] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:15] <gorgeousjunkie> i know what synaptic is
[09:15] <spc> warbo: I never see hd0, I'm only seeing hda1, hdb1
[09:15] <Previ|work> anyone here can help with duel monitors setup?
 benyameen: We could do it for you but you would not learn as much // going to google now
[09:15] <lmosher> What's the command to generate an xorg.conf? I remember doing it once following a guide that asked me a few questions in console... dpkg-something etc etc was the command. Any ideas?
[09:15] <Jack_Sparrow> benyameen: You can go to a terminal and try lspci and see what Ubuntu sees there
[09:15] <napster> I can use IRC but I can not surf In FIREFOX. What is wrong ???
[09:15] <cpk2> benyameen: does the wireless card show up when you do lspci?
[09:15] <benyameen> yes i think it does
[09:15] <cpk2> what chipset is it?
[09:15] <benyameen> dont know, i would have to check
[09:16] <benyameen> i cant get onto the internet on ubuntu
[09:16] <cpk2> lspci -v should say
[09:16] <benyameen> as no wireless
[09:16] <benyameen> ok
[09:16] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: what if you punch in the IP and not the name of a site does it take you there.. then dns problem
[09:16] <cpk2> are you dual booting?
[09:16] <benyameen> ill go and check
[09:16] <mwe> benyameen: sorry for calling you ben_d ;)
[09:16] <facugaich> lmosher: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:16] <longwave> spc: grub uses different names, hda in linux is hd0 in grub
[09:16] <benyameen> mwe, no problem.
[09:16] <spc> Warbo: thanks, I'll check that and respond back when I know more.
[09:16] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: Can you tell me an site's IP ?
[09:16] <Warbo> spc: Linux uses XdXX (first X is "h" or "s" depending upon type, second is the order starting at a, and last is partition starting at 1) GRUB uses "hdX,X" where first X is the drive order, starting at 0, and the second is the partition, starting at 0
[09:17] <mwe> benyameen: I was too fast on the enter key after tab completion
[09:17] <benyameen> lol no probz
[09:17] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19423
[09:17] <lmosher> facugaich: tyty that was the one I needed.
[09:17] <spc> longwave: warbo: where will I see grub designations instead of linux designations? In the files you mentioned?
[09:17] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: ONe sec
[09:17] <benyameen> ok using intel chipset utility
[09:17] <benyameen> will that do?
[09:18] <mwe> ben_d: well what was the chipset of the wifi card, you say?
[09:18] <mwe> benyameen: ^^
[09:18] <longwave> napster: http://64.233.187.99/ should take you to google even if dns is not working
[09:18] <Warbo> spc: In /boot/grub/menu.lst the first line of a boot entry is "root (hdX,X)" whereas the kernel line will have "root=/dev/XdXX" (the Linux syntax)
[09:18] <mwe> I wish ben_d would mess up my tab completions ;)
[09:18] <mwe> would not
[09:18] <benyameen> mwe: IPN2220
[09:18] <cpk2> benyameen: thats what lspci -v says the chipset is?
[09:19] <benyameen> dont know, cant remember
[09:19] <mwe> benyameen: but is that the actual chip?
[09:19] <benyameen> yes
[09:19] <benyameen> i know for sure
[09:19] <mwe> ok
[09:19] <napster> longwave: it took me
[09:19] <benyameen> fitted into an acer laptop
[09:19] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: I am really wondering why they are not installable. Your sources look fine
[09:19] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Are you running Edgy by any chance?
[09:19] <adam25> hey guys how do i set my video adapter in ubuntu?
[09:19] <mwe> benyameen: do you know if there is a linux driver for it or you should use ndiswrapper?
[09:19] <cpk2> benyameen: alot of times the name of the card has nothing to do with the chipset
[09:19] <jonah1980> hi can anyone help me out with checking to see my ie1394 works ok? trying to capture into kino but not working
[09:20] <gorgeousjunkie> warbo what is edgy?
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone walk me through the ATI driver install as i have tried everything...and please no links to the wiki please
[09:20] <benyameen> well, when i put linux onto my device, wireless would not work. It would not actually detect my wireless
[09:20] <benyameen> just ethernet
[09:20] <napster> longwave, Jack_Sparrow : Do you know how to fix this ?
[09:20] <facugaich> Paddy_EIRE: <wiki link>
[09:20] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Your sources are for Dapper. If you don't know what edgy is then you are probably not running it
[09:20] <cpk2> benyameen: but it is a good thing that it shows up when you do lspci
[09:20] <facugaich> Paddy_EIRE: :P what's the problem?
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[09:20] <benyameen> so after googleing (sp) i found that i needed a driver, and ndiswrap
[09:21] <benyameen> but i couldnt get ndiswrap installed, and couldnt find a driver
[09:21] <mwe> benyameen: well if there is not a linux driver you can use a windows driver in ndiswrapper, usually
[09:21] <cpk2> benyameen: apt-get
[09:21] <benyameen> ^above
[09:21] <cpk2> !info ndiswrapper
[09:21] <aron> I'm having problems launching X window applications from the terminal, anybody want to help me out?
[09:21] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[09:21] <gorgeousjunkie> so what next?
[09:21] <cpk2> yes it does
[09:21] <fourat> wich tool is to configure printers ? the one same as redhat-config-printer on redhat linux
[09:21] <Warbo> gorgeousjunkie: Try pointing your browser to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb
[09:21] <cpk2> ubuto you liar
Im just about giving up on gaming in ubuntu or displaying a screensaver properly, cant get ATI radeon 9250 working properly since day 1
[09:22] <Warbo> cpk2: Maybe not the exact name?
[09:22] <tritium> cpk2: take it easy.  It's a bot.
[09:22] <facugaich> Paddy_EIRE: but you did follow the wiki's instructions right?
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> all of em
[09:22] <gorgeousjunkie> paddy_eire wher eyou from biy?
[09:22] <Shinzetsu> When I try to install my graphics drivers I get the following error:
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Ireland
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> (EIRE)
[09:22] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Is it supported by DRI (dri.sf.net I think)? That's the driver I use on my 9200. ATI don't seem to support their older cards anymore
[09:22] <gorgeousjunkie> where?
[09:23] <napster> longwave: HOW DO I FIX THAT ?
[09:23] <cpk2> hehe i am just joking around
where do i get this
[09:23] <gilianima> What package shall I install to prevent this error message : "Audio LAVC, couldn't find encoder for codec mp3" ?
[09:23] <_jeff> hey guys
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[09:23] <cpk2> benyameen: you should be able to apt-get ndiswrapper
[09:23] <cpk2> i just did the other day
[09:23] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: I will find my Wiki page.....
[09:23] <adam25> does anybody know what tool i use to install the right drievr for my video in ubuntu?
[09:23] <aron> Shinzetsu: Was that towards me?
[09:23] <_jeff> i just upgraded my gnome and now my wireless card isnt being detected
[09:23] <adam25> its just in 640x480 mode
[09:23] <benyameen> cpk2: but with no working internet connection in ubuntu....
[09:23] <Evil_Ed`> sup
[09:24] <facugaich> adam25: what vid card?
[09:24] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:24] <Evil_Ed`> ?
[09:24] <adam25> 1 sec
[09:24] <mwe> benyameen: no 17 on this list: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I
[09:24] <aron> Shinzetsu: I can run GNOME fine, but KDE started acting really fishy (probably do to something I screwed up in .Xauthority or elsewhere), and most certainly no application I run from the command line works
[09:24] <cpk2> benyameen: you dont have a wired nic?
[09:24] <benyameen> getting wireless from next door
[09:24] <benyameen> lol
[09:25] <Shinzetsu> How do I exit an X Server?
[09:25] <Warbo> benyameen: I hope they know
[09:25] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: ctrl-alt-F1
[09:25] <adam25> ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 series
[09:25] <tritium> !ati
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:25] <mwe> benyameen: no 17 on this list: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I
[09:25] <benyameen> Warbo yes they do, they gave me the WEP key....
[09:25] <jonah1980> hi i have a firewire port but not sure if it even works, do i need to install a capture card or should it work already?
[09:25] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: To turn it off you can run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[09:25] <_jeff> can anybody help me?
[09:25] <Warbo> benyameen: OK then :)
[09:25] <napster> HOW DO I FIX MY DNS SERVER SYSTEM !???
[09:26] <facugaich> adam25: follow ubotu's link
[09:26] <_jeff> i upgraded gnome and the system no longer recognizes my wireless card
[09:26] <mwe> !caps
[09:26] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:26] <benyameen> wait, mwe number 17 on which letter?
[09:26] <spc> how does the liveCD work?  Does it load everything into ram?  Is 256 MB enough?
[09:26] <adam25> ok will do thx
[09:26] <cpk2> benyameen: you can download the .debs on the box you are on now and then connect your 2 boxes together and transfer the .debs
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: 216.239.57.99
[09:26] <napster> to go there
[09:26] <gorgeousjunkie> paddy_eire what county fien?
[09:26] <mwe> benyameen: search for ipn22
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: Sorry, I got busy at the front door
[09:26] <facugaich> spc: I have 192 mb and it works fine here
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> SO it is a dns problem right
[09:27] <vvheritagevv> spc: yes it should run,
[09:27] <benyameen> where mwe
[09:27] <cpk2> benyameen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper that should tell you how
[09:27] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[09:27] <bigbill52a> i just installed ubuntu on a 350 mhz pentium 2 with 256 megs of ram and a wireless usb adapter and everything works fine...kinda amazin
[09:27] <spc> facugaich: vvheritagevv: thanks.
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: Lucky guess..
[09:27] <up_the_rebels> so warbo what do I do next?
[09:27] <aron> hmnn, so this is my currently running X,  /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt
Ireland (EIRE)
[09:27] <cpk2> benyameen: you only need ndiswrapper-utils
[09:27] <up_the_rebels> could I use UK repositories?
[09:28] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: Do you know how to fix this ?
[09:28] <Warbo> bigbill52a: I just read through that message, noting the various areas for troubleshooting, got to the end to see what the problem was, and it was OK :)
[09:28] <mwe> benyameen: the list. the one I found was for a linksys card but same chip, should work
[09:28] <cpk2> benyameen: that tells you how to do it with internet connection from a different computer
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> It will take me a minute to see if I can remember how to make it look at a differtent dns server
[09:28] <aron> Should the X authority file be in my home directory?
[09:28] <up_the_rebels> paddy_eire you must be a dub 'cause you're thick like!
[09:28] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: Did you put in that archive.ubuntu.com line?
[09:28] <up_the_rebels> ;-)
[09:28] <up_the_rebels> warbo I did at the end of the fil
[09:28] <benyameen> cpk2: i only need utils
[09:28] <benyameen> olk
[09:28] <_jeff> i upgraded gnome and the system no longer recognizes my wireless card
[09:28] <bigbill52a> i have never had linux work so troublefree...either on my new dual amd system or this old junkbox
[09:29] <cpk2> benyameen: unless you want the gui as well
[09:29] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: Did you update APT (either click "reload" in Synaptic, or run "sudo apt-get update")?
[09:29] <benyameen> might me best cpk2
Im actually form the north Derry City
[09:29] <benyameen> very newbish cpk2
[09:29] <up_the_rebels> warbo I did not
[09:29] <cpk2> benyameen: ndisgtk is if you want a gui, if you want the gui go ahead and get both
[09:29] <dattas> hey guys how do you recover files from the lost+found folder?
[09:29] <bigbill52a> it appears that ubuntu can now compete effectively against windoze...
[09:30] <cpk2> benyameen: just follow that walkthrough and you should get it working in no time =)
[09:30] <up_the_rebels> ouch! Paddy_Eire come on down to the republic!
[09:30] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: Do it now then (you cannot run apt-get if Synaptic is open, by the way)
[09:30] <benyameen> THANK YOU cpk2
[09:30] <up_the_rebels> warbo thanks
[09:30] <mwe> benyameen: I'm sure you can get it to work with ndis and that driver
[09:30] <jonah1980> hello can anyone please help me out?
[09:30] <Warbo> !helpme
[09:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:30] <napster> johan1980: ask
[09:30] <benyameen> thank you mwe and cpk2
[09:31] <Bassetts> is there a reason ubuntu will not mount a blank cd-r
[09:31] <aron> can anybody help me troubleshoot this Xorg problem?
[09:31] <benyameen> ah shit, mwe: the driver, the link not functioning
[09:31] <Warbo> !language
[09:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:31] <facugaich> aron: just say what the problem is an someone may help
[09:31] <loki505> do i neccery have to upgrade my version of ubuntu and if i  do will i still have all my settings and how do i burn the ISO image on a disc using the existing programs on here
[09:31] <spc> warbo:  I'm in file browser, don't see /boot properly named, just the size volume
[09:31] <jonah1980> i just bought a new computer, didn't get windows with it. installed ubuntu on clean hardrive, want to capture video via firewire, the port is there but kino saying the 1394 kernel module not working, i don't even know if i need a capture card or if it should just work, got a tv tuner card if that helps... can anyone help?
[09:32] <cpk2> benyameen: you dont have the drivers from when you bought the card?
[09:32] <up_the_rebels> fiy derry is not in the Eire it's in NI FFS
[09:32] <spc> warbo: and it won't mount.  Do I need (or should I) go through terminal?  I don't mind, but would be curious why?
[09:32] <zazeem> hi, is i cant get any help through cedega channel or support, and i was wondering since im using cedega with ubuntu id ask.  Is it possible to install cedega on a different partition? i have no room for the games on my primary but plenty on my other
[09:32] <benyameen> card came in laptop
[09:32] <mwe> benyameen: oh
[09:32] <_jeff> i upgraded gnome and the system no longer recognizes my wireless card
[09:32] <dattas> hey guys how do you recover files from the lost+found folder?
[09:32] <Warbo> spc: "sudo mount /dev/<boot partition> /mnt" will do, then "sudo nano /mnt/grub/menu.lst"
[09:33] <Warbo> !offtopic > up_the_rebels
 benyameen: you dont have the drivers from when you bought the card? // i have a laptop, card came fitted
[09:33] <mwe> benyameen: ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/WPC54G%20v4%20driver%20rev%201.22.1.2004.zip <-- that one works
[09:33] <benyameen> many thanks
[09:33] <Paddy_EIRE> havin a little problem with that radeon card guide
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: http://www.ubuntux.org/firefox-woes   this should do it
[09:33] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Check if your card is supported. Not all are
[09:33] <aron> facugaich: I can run X applications fine from Gnome, but KDE isn't working anymore and I can't launch X applications from a terminal, I think I horked either a config file or permissions somewhere
[09:33] <mwe> benyameen: what lappy was it again?
[09:34] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: Can I have an IP of that address ?
 im sure it is
[09:34] <Winst0n> hi
[09:34] <quib> Hi, I would like to know if someone can help me to install a wlan0 with ndiswrapper in the dapper ubuntu
but its something in the guide
[09:34] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: What step is playing up?
[09:34] <aron> So my question is, how do I diagnose and troubleshoot the X configuration to see why things aren't launching from the command line?
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: silly me
[09:34] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo vi /etc/modules
[09:34] <up_the_rebels> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19425 warbo
 benyameen: what lappy was it again? / acer travelmate 2300
[09:34] <mwe> aron: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: Open Mozila Firefox and type "about:config" in address bar and press Enter
[09:35] <mwe> benyameen: ok.
[09:35] <Winst0n> Is there somethin wrong with the de.ubuntu.com archives? 404 error
[09:35] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: AAA! I forgot someone added to the guide after I wrote it. I hate vi! :)
[09:35] <facugaich> aron: I don't know about KDE, sorry, but seems mwe do
[09:35] <spc> Warbo: is that actually type "<boot partition>", or replace with my location ("/boot")?
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: Scroll down to "network.dns.disableIPv6" and change its default value from false to true then restart
how am i supposed to put radeon at the end... i cant type nothing without the rest of the doc messing up
[09:35] <Warbo> spc: Replace it with the device name (like hda1 or something)
[09:35] <cpk2> Winst0n: if it is down you can just use a mirror
[09:36] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Don't use vi, use nano. I will change that back and make anonymous threats to whoever changed it :)
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> restart firefox
 i think that file is messed now sudo vi /etc/modules
[09:36] <mwe> benyameen: maybe use this one then, though it's for the 4000 ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/TravelMate_4000_4500/driver/a802.zip
[09:36] <aron> mwe: only error reported is: (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom (6 times)
[09:36] <jonah1980> hi can anyone tell me if i need a video capture card or not, even though i have the ieee1394 port i don't know if it works or not can anyone advise?
[09:36] <Bassetts> ubuntu will not mount a blank cd-r
[09:36] <Warbo> Can someone help Paddy_EIRE with vi? I can't get my head around it, and he may have messed up a file
[09:36] <mwe> aron: and X wont start?
[09:37] <aron> mwe: X starts, but I can't launch X applications from the terminal
[09:37] <aron> mwe: ie, I can't connect to the X server
[09:37] <mwe> aron: what happens?
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: where is he at with it.. does he have a working system, running live etc
[09:38] <legrimpeur> hello !
[09:38] <spc> warbo: well, that's not good.  It's empty (or didn't exist?)
[09:38] <mwe> aron: did you sudo to root or something?
[09:38] <aron> mwe: Matlab reports that it can't connect to the X Server
[09:38] <mwe> aron: did you sudo to root or something?
[09:38] <lnx2002> hi
[09:38] <aron> mwe: This is running as me so far
[09:38] <Winst0n> cpk2, where can i get a mirror list from? apt-setup?
[09:38] <lnx2002> i got a problem (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19426) how can help ?
[09:38] <mwe> aron: can you run anything else like glxgears?
[09:38] <cpk2> Winst0n: if you delete de. it will default to uk or something
[09:38] <legrimpeur> i need some help about a two graphics-card into ubuntu dapper on Oldworld macintosh
[09:38] <Winst0n> thx
[09:39] <wheels3572> !iptables > wheels3572
[09:39] <spc> warbo: if I do "ls" on "/boot" I see 6 files: 5 end in -386, including vmlinuz-.....
[09:39] <aron> mwe: [aron@casiphia] : glxgears
[09:39] <aron> Error: couldn't open display localhost:0
[09:39] <mwe> aron: odd
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> glxgears -printfps
[09:39] <aron> mwe: You're telling me :(
[09:39] <cpk2> aron: maybe post your xorg.conf?
[09:39] <up_the_rebels> warbo still no joy
[09:39] <mwe> aron: did you try several times, like logging out and back in?
[09:39] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: That doesn't fix it
[09:39] <legrimpeur> why does ubuntu need tio use the old motherboard graphic, when debian sarge use the PCI Rage pro ?
[09:39] <aron> mwe: This is a continuing problem
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: that was the only fix I know of
[09:40] <aron> cpk2: Where's xorg.conf?
[09:40] <mwe> aron: how about programs run from the menu?
[09:40] <ViktorMento> hi
[09:40] <Winst0n> cpk2: works like charme ;)
[09:40] <aron> mwe: All those run fine
[09:40] <Warbo> spc: In a LiveCD the /boot will not be your /boot, it will be the LiveCD's /boot. You need to know the partiton name of your boot partition
[09:40] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: Can you change channel, a less busy one like xubuntu
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <cpk2> aron: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: I have changed vi to nano in the guide :)
[09:40] <mwe> aron: well
[09:40] <aron> cpk2: got it, what section do you want?
[09:40] <mwe> aron: is this gnome terminal?
[09:40] <scrilla_> how do i update all of my stuff?
[09:40] <cyphase> hmm
[09:40] <scrilla_> apt-get upgrade?
 cheers man that vi is a pain
[09:41] <aron> mwe: yeah gnome
[09:41] <ViktorMento> are any of you finding problems when recording DVD's?
[09:41] <spc> warbo: oh.  I typed the partition name - I'll double check.
[09:41] <cyphase> dapper has a higher version of firefox then edgy
[09:41] <cpk2> aron: its not that big pastebin it
[09:41] <cpk2> !pastebin
[09:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:41] <Sally80> hello
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: I am very busy, at least you now know the problem, there was a bunch of info on that when I goodled firefox dns
[09:41] <Warbo> Hi
[09:41] <aron> cpk2: 147 lines
[09:41] <lnx2002> Please help
[09:41] <aron> cpk2: go ahead?
[09:41] <lnx2002> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19426
[09:41] <mwe> aron: hmm. can you ps aux|grep X for me?
[09:41] <cpk2> aron: use pastebin
[09:41] <erUSUL> scrilla_: the update-manager should do so automagically. System>Admin.>update manager
[09:41] <sparkleytone> anyone know of a good bandwidth reporting tool...as in total bandwidth used on all interfaces?
[09:42] <Sally80> I want to install this http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/electricsheep/   but dont know what to type with apt get
[09:42] <legrimpeur> is ther anyonbe who could help me ?
[09:42] <up_the_rebels> warbo i still got no joy synapic is still kiking out the same error after reload
[09:42] <aron> mwe, cpk2: root      4626  1.5  4.3  97024 89288 tty7     Ss+  13:44   0:52 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[09:42] <mwe> aron: I doubt it's a problem with your xorg.conf causing when you can run programs from the menu
[09:42] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: Can you at least supply me with the IP of the URL u posted for me ?
[09:42] <aron> cpk2: what's pastebin?
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> wil try one sec
[09:42] <cpk2> mwe: didnt he say he thought he screwed xorg?
[09:42] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: Did you downlaod that file I linked to?
[09:42] <ro3> i want gaim to start at startup, which all i do is put it comand in startup thing, but how can i make it startup minimized to taskbar? is there someting like "gaim --minimize"?
[09:42] <cpk2> !pastebin
[09:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:42] <mwe> aron: ok. try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[09:42] <mwe> aron: then glxgears
[09:42] <cpk2> ^^^^^^^^^^^ pastebin
[09:42] <up_the_rebels> warbo what file are you talking abt?
Here you must now change the driver from ati to radeon. This will enable the radeon driver. Also make sure that lines Load dri and Load glx are uncommented.
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE>  (what do u mean no quotes or something)
[09:42] <lmosher> Anyone here use xgl? I had it working but I changed my xorg.conf and now I can't see any buttons and get other atrifacts... I reverted to my old xorg.conf and I STILL get this. Any ideas?
[09:43] <aron> mwe: Nope
[09:43] <Warbo>  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb
[09:43] <Sally80> I want to install this http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/electricsheep/   but dont know what to type with apt get
[09:43] <mwe> aron: same problem?
[09:43] <aron> mwe: same problem, just a different thing it can't connect to
[09:43] <lnx2002> What is the correct package name of partman ? ( apt-get install xxxxx ???? )
[09:43] <buhu2_> Hello all, I posted a topic on the Ubuntu official forum and I need help with it, can someone please check it out? it's at : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227133     Thanks in advance.
[09:43] <aron> mwe: I think I might have messed up my .Xauthority file or its permissions
[09:43] <mwe> aron: yes
[09:43] <up_the_rebels> warbo do I dwnload it to the desktop?
[09:43] <warren_> just installed ubuntu on my laptop, now my sound card is not recognized. how can i get sound?
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> 69.3.7.111  plus one other in a sec
[09:43] <Warbo> Sally80: Just use Ubutnu's version
[09:43] <sparkleytone> if its x86-based, java is easy...just download it and put it in /lib/jvm
[09:43] <Warbo> !info electricsheep
[09:43] <ubotu> electricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB
[09:43] <spc> warbo: I have hdb1 mounted.  so when I try to open the file using nano, I get an empty file.  Can I navigate to it and view the grub directory?
[09:43] <Shinzetsu> I got 2 questions
[09:43] <sparkleytone> and symlink the netscape plugin to the firefox location
[09:43] <Sally80> how do i get that?
[09:44] <Shinzetsu> 1) How do I get mp3's working 2) I installed my nvidia drivers but I can only use 640x480 now
[09:44] <zazeem> hi, is i cant get any help through cedega channel or support, and i was wondering since im using cedega with ubuntu id ask.  Is it possible to install cedega on a different partition? i have no room for the games on my primary but plenty on my other
[09:44] <Warbo> spc: Yes, but you will need to edit it using sudo, otherwise you will not be able to save changes
[09:44] <mwe> aron: maybe. try logging out and delete it from the console
[09:44] <zazeem> Warbo: how can i find my path to gaim mesenger?
[09:44] <Warbo> !universe > Sally80
[09:44] <Warbo> !synaptic > Sally80
[09:44] <Sephnroth> hey guys, I was rebuilding my server and, on recomendation, decided to try ubuntu out this time instead of mandriva - i have just finished a successful install and when I reboot it brings up the ubuntu logo (after grub) and everything loads okay but then it seems to freaze after its finished intialising
[09:44] <Bassetts> is it possible to backup all my thunderbird prefs and emails and rss feeds?
[09:44] <Sephnroth> i just get an _ in the top left of a brownish screen
[09:44] <Warbo> zazeem: ?
[09:44] <aron> mwe: delete .Xauthority from /home/aron/.Xauthority ?
[09:44] <zazeem> Warbo: how can i find my path to gaim mesenger?
[09:44] <Warbo> zazeem: /usr/bin/gaim?
[09:45] <zazeem> Warbo: thnx
[09:45] <Sephnroth> any ideas wassup?
[09:45] <mwe> aron: yes. but not from within gnome
 Also make sure that lines Load dri and Load glx are uncommented....what do u mean by this
[09:45] <Shinzetsu> Warbo: look in /usr/etc/
[09:45] <zazeem> Warbo: also thanks for helping me with partition stuff a few days back
[09:45] <warren_> can someone help me understand why my laptop's sound card is not recognized?
[09:45] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: A friend of mine says that the problem is in my DHCP DNS and that I don't have the DNS IPs in my /etc/resolv.config ? Is this a part of the problem and how to change it ?
[09:45] <aron> mwe: got it, if I'm not back that means it worked :)
[09:45] <kana> buhu2_: did you install grub
[09:45] <Sally80> so what do i do?
[09:45] <dr_willis> Shinzetsu,  cedega installs its games and stuff to a .transgaming or similer dir.. if the user had  a writeable directory on another mounted partition - you could link that dir to the new directory,
[09:45] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: I thought I chabed that to say "do not begin with a "#""
[09:45] <mwe> aron: log out first then into the console (ctrl-alt-f1) then back to alt-f7 and login
[09:45] <sparkleytone> Sephnroth: can you access any tty's ?
[09:45] <Warbo> *changed
[09:45] <lmosher> zazeem: for future reference you can use the console commands "locate" to search for files/folders or "which" to find out the location of a commad
[09:45] <Sephnroth> tell me how to find out and i'll go check :)
[09:45] <dr_willis> Shinzetsu,  so it can be done with a little (trivial) effort
[09:45] <Shinzetsu> dr_willis: I need no help with cedega, you need another person
[09:46] <buhu2_> kana I installed UBUNTU, restarted and entered windows, no GRUB, i can check for you if i installed it, i am now on the LiveCd
[09:46] <sparkleytone> Sephnroth: when its booted...press ctrl-alt-f1
[09:46] <Shinzetsu> dr_willis: it was zazeem
[09:46] <dr_willis> heh - quit scrolling by so fast! :P
[09:46] <dr_willis> :)
[09:46] <Sephnroth> righto, brb
[09:46] <spc> warbo: when I try to edit it, the file is empty.
[09:46] <sparkleytone> Sephnroth: if the screen flickers and shows a terminal...that's good news
[09:46] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: What? I have no /usr/etc
[09:46] <Sephnroth> ok
[09:46] <spc> dr_willis: you're not helping :P
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> napster:  one more sec
[09:46] <shiv> How do u change icon of a file or folder on desktop?
[09:46] <cpk2> !mp3
[09:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <Shinzetsu> Warbo: sorry cant help you thenb
[09:46] <Shinzetsu> How do I get mp3's working?
[09:46] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: When I do that it shows: user set   boolean true
[09:46] <lampshade> could someone help me track down what process is eating 1% of my cpu constantly and how to eliminate it?
[09:46] <dr_willis> zazeem, ,  cedega installs its games and stuff to a .transgaming or similer dir.. if the user had  a writeable directory on another mounted partition - you could link that dir to the new directory,
[09:46] <kana> buhu2_: is there a problem if you just reinstall ubuntu again
[09:46] <lampshade> top and system monitor aren't showing me anything useful either :-/
[09:46] <sparkleytone> ---> anyone know of a good bandwidth reporting tool...as in total bandwidth used on all interfaces?
[09:47] <kana> buhu2_: seems to me this is the first time you install it
[09:47] <cpk2> Shinzetsu: you need to apt-get the appropiate lib but i forget the name
[09:47] <zazeem> dr_willis_: how? i dont really get it?
[09:47] <buhu2_> kana I WISH hehe i just can't figure out how as i wrote in the last posts
[09:47] <lmosher> lampshade: That's simple.. If you want 0% cpu turn the computer off. Use 'top' for a detailed list of processes and their CPU usage
[09:47] <Sephnroth> sparkleytone:  it doesnt respond to ctrl+alt+f1 at all
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: gksudo gedit  /etc/acpi/events.ignore
[09:47] <Warbo> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[09:47] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:47] <kana> buhu2_: why are you afraid to install grub to MBR. grub will handle loading your window os
[09:48] <dr_willis> zazeem,  read a bash/linux tutorial. and learn about 'ln -s' to make soft links..   in short.. make a partition on the new hd.. make a dir on the partition owned by the user. link the .transgaming directoru (or whatever its called) to the new directory
[09:48] <lmosher> lampshade: But you don't need to worry about that 1%, it's most likely a low-priority system process...I wouldn't mess with it unless it was taking up a constant 15% or something.
[09:48] <lampshade> lmosher: thanks for the jerk response, I'm not looking 0% cpu, I'm looking for not 100%
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: see if this one works
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nameserver 68.94.156.1
[09:48] <kana> buhu2_: otherwise it really tricky to start ubuntu
[09:48] <lampshade> the 00 got chopped off
[09:48] <lampshade> sorry
[09:48] <lampshade> 100% cpu
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nap.. sorry
[09:48] <sparkleytone> Sephnroth: sounds like its freezing on video...you need to reboot...press Esc at the grub load and then choose the rescue kernel
[09:48] <lmosher> lampshade: lol ok I was gonna say.. you said 1% :P
[09:48] <buhu2_> kana I am worried that it might damage my MBR and then i wont have any OS left to access, but I'd like to install GRUB if i can know how
[09:48] <lmosher> lampshade: Use 'top' in console and then hit "p" or "P" (I forget) to sort by CPU usage
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: gksudo gedit  /etc/resolve.conf
[09:49] <sparkleytone> Sephnroth: then you'll need to login as root, possibly mount your / and probably troubleshoot your X11 driver
[09:49] <Sephnroth> okay, will go see if the rescue kernel has any better luck - wouldnt be surprised if it was the video, that old thing has only got an s3 virge in it
[09:49] <sethk> napster, if your dhcp server doesn't send dns info, then you have to enter dns info manually.  If dhcp server does send dns info, run network-admin and check the dns tab, it should say something like "get dns from dhcp"
[09:49] <azureal> lo, does anyone know how to remove parts of openoffice?
[09:49] <Sephnroth> brb again :)
[09:49] <azureal> such as openoffice.org-draw
[09:49] <aron> mwe: the file was deleted when I logged out, but I'm logged back in, new file, and it's still not working
[09:49] <Warbo> azureal: Synaptic
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> thak you sethk
[09:49] <Warbo> !synaptic
[09:49] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:49] <sparkleytone> lampshade: if you do a top -d1 you'll find the process
[09:49] <zazeem> dr_willis: thanks, i got it partitioned and the folder is in my home directory called files, so i type ln -s /home/zazeem/files c_drive ?
[09:49] <azureal> warbo: ...
[09:49] <lampshade> lmosher: that's just it, it doesn't list anything using nearly that much cpu, yet the whole system is slower, hotter, etc.  I've been running Ubuntu for a while and this just recently started.  I have no idea what the cause is
[09:49] <kana> buhu2_: you can always recover the window boot to the MBR using the window installation cd. This is only if you want to remove linux permanently
[09:49] <azureal> warbo: if i take out draw, it takes out all of oo
[09:49] <lmosher> lampshade: But be careful about simply killing processes - you might get some system instability :/ I had a similar issues when SELinux was fighting with my acpid
[09:49] <dr_willis> zazeem,  you are trying to run installed probresm on the C: drive?
[09:50] <kana> buhu2_: give me a min still reading the posts on the thread
[09:50] <sparkleytone> lampshade: top -d1
[09:50] <spc> Warbo: it looks like the only thing in my /boot partition is "lost+found".  Looks like I'm running the installer again...
[09:50] <Warbo> azureal: It will take out the main openoffice meta-package, but the others should remain. If not then use aptitude to get a little more control
[09:50] <buhu2_> kana : please take your time
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kana: even if you fdisk /mbr you can use super grub repair to get Linux back
[09:50] <sparkleytone> lampshade: that should put the offending process(es) at the top
[09:50] <zazeem> dr_willis i want to install games and play them from that directory through cedega
[09:50] <fourat> anyone can help out there : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=469484
[09:50] <Giskard> still having problems with livecd and serial mouse, xorg.conf tells me its ps2 and cant change to ttyS0 because its read only, another way to do it?
[09:50] <Warbo> spc: The installer has formatted your /boot partition, but not used it :(
[09:50] <lmosher> lampshade: It could be that your other system monitory isn't entirely accurate. The 'top' program is what I'd trust. If you don't see anything taking up a lot of CPU, then you're OK...
[09:50] <dr_willis> zazeem,  not sure what you mean 'from that'
[09:51] <Warbo> spc: As I said earlier, I don;t like the graphical installer :)
[09:51] <zazeem> dr_willis: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6533
[09:51] <lmosher> I need to go, good luck lampshade :)
[09:51] <spc> Warbo: how to make sure it does next time?
[09:51] <spc> Warbo: :)
[09:51] <zazeem> dr_willis: they show it therebut it isnt right
[09:51] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: I get gedit command not found
[09:51] <sparkleytone> lampshade: hello?
[09:51] <dr_willis> zazeem,  my users got a extra 'home space' directory on  a 2nd partition. I link it to their home dir with   ln -s /home/username/extraspace /media/extra/username
[09:51] <sparkleytone> ---> anyone know of a good bandwidth reporting tool...as in total bandwidth used on all interfaces? <---
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> napster:  where are you typing it
[09:51] <kana> Jack_Sparrow: ok i was just addressing buhu2_ concerns :)
[09:51] <aron> cpk2, mle, out of ideas?
[09:51] <azureal> warbo: so w/o the meta package, something like oowriter will run if i remove oodraw?
[09:51] <sethk> fourat, possibly you have to do a modprobe for the usb printer driver.
[09:51] <spc> Warbo:  I would, provided it worked.  I'm willing to help out, but it seems getting started with Linux is the hardest part - it's all downhill after that, right?
[09:52] <lampshade> sparkleytone:  it just constantly says 100% cpu... the machine is hot and laggy like it is using 100% cpu, but both top and system monitor don't show an offending program that's doing it :-/
[09:52] <sparkleytone> lampshade: do you know how to read top?
[09:52] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: In Terminal, I use Xubuntu
[09:52] <Giskard> is there another way to do it?
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kana: and I just wanted you to know that you dont lose linux, you just cant get to it until grub is fixed
[09:52] <zazeem> dr_willis: i have my other partition in my home directory all set up to boot with fstab, it is called hom/zazeem/files, i want to install cedega games in there
[09:52] <lampshade> sparkleytone: ummmm I think so I mean is there really anything to it?
[09:52] <sparkleytone> lampshade: do a top -d1 -n3 > ~/Desktop/top.txt
[09:52] <zazeem> home rather
[09:52] <kana> Jack_Sparrow: i know that
[09:52] <sparkleytone> lampshade: then open the top.txt file on your desktop
[09:52] <dr_willis> zazeem,  then set up the right .transgaming dir link
[09:53] <fourat> sethk, it's allmost probed, (just refresh that link to see)
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: use whatever editor you have in there ..
[09:53] <zazeem> dr_willis: i tried it didnt do it
[09:53] <lampshade> ok and then what I mean I'm staring at it right now--the live top in the terminal that is
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> napster: I have not used xbutu
[09:53] <kana> Jack_Sparrow: did i say loose linux in any of my correspondence ?
[09:53] <Warbo> azureal: Yes, but it you may be in a situation where the openoffice package is the only one installed "manually". In that case when you remove oodraw, which will then remove openoffice, it may say it is removing the rest (like oowrite) sicne they are "no longer used" (ie. they only existed because openoffice was installed) if that is the case then aptitude lets you fine tune your changes before you apply them
[09:53] <napster> Jack_Sparrow: Continue
[09:53] <sparkleytone> lampshade: there will be 3 separate instances of top output in that file...please copy the top 5 lines under the line starting with "PID" into a pastebin for each one
[09:53] <dr_willis> zazeem,  then ya did somthing wrong. :P  ln -s whatever wherevernew
[09:54] <sparkleytone> lampshade: then, of course, paste the link ;)
[09:54] <Shinzetsu> hey
[09:54] <zazeem> dr_willis: hmm
[09:54] <azureal> warbo: ok, thx
[09:54] <Shinzetsu> gstreamer0,8.mad is that the mp3 lib?
[09:54] <ViktorMento> hi
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kana you said this is only if you want to remove linux completely
[09:54] <lampshade> yeah the output looks terrible in gedit, but I'll see what I can paste (corrupt looking, etc)
[09:54] <asathoor> any suggestions on how to sync a KDE organizer with a cellphone?
[09:54] <Warbo> spc: I installed Breezy with it's text installer which was a breeze (pun intended), then upgraded to Dapper when it came out. I have never had a problem starting out with Linux, even Fedora's use of LVM
[09:54] <ViktorMento> are any of you having problems when recording DVD's?
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kana: np all is well
[09:54] <azureal> sucks..oodraw is connected to ooimpress =/
[09:55] <kana> Jack_Sparrow: exactly if he does not like linux and wold like to recover the space linux used and run window solely
[09:55] <dr_willis> zazeem,  ln -s  /path/to/spare/dir/directory .transgaming  (I THINK its .transgaming) it may be called somthing else
[09:55] <kana> Jack_Sparrow: np my friend.
[09:55] <elalancette> Hi guys , i search some PDF creator software , some hav a link ?
[09:55] <Warbo> azureal: OODraw is really bad :)
[09:55] <sun_> hi does anyone know how to get the email-monitor backinto the ion3 statusbar?
[09:55] <Warbo> !info inkscape
[09:55] <ubotu> inkscape: vector-based drawing program. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.43-4ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 7201 kB, installed size 28184 kB
[09:55] <zazeem> dr_willis: it is .cedega
[09:55] <zazeem> dr_willis: it is .cedega i think lemme see
[09:55] <sparkleytone> lampshade: got a link for me?
[09:55] <dr_willis> zazeem,  actually i think they got 2 different dirs.. they do it in a very annoying way
[09:55] <spc> warbo:  never had any problems?  Must be lucky ;)
[09:55] <Shinzetsu> how do I add mp3 support to ubuntu?
[09:56] <sparkleytone> !restricted
[09:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > Shinzetsu
[09:56] <azureal> warbo: i know...but i like ooimpress so I guess I'm stuck w/ it
[09:56] <sun_> hi does anyone know how to get the email-monitor backinto the ion3 statusbar?
[09:56] <sparkleytone> Shinzetsu: there you go
[09:56] <Shinzetsu> thanks
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:56] <ViktorMento> are any of you having problems when recording DVD's with gnomebaker??
[09:56] <zazeem> dr_willis: i have one that is .cedega hidden and .transdgaming_global hidden and in home i have one not hidden called transgaming_drive
[09:56] <spc> wish me luck, here goes another install attempt - I've got everything prepartioned and formatted this time.... (I think.....)
[09:56] <lampshade> can't you just tell me what to look for I mean each of the processes are running very little in cpu usage but the system is lagging horribly like 100% cpu is being used and the other system monitors report 100% cpu usage
[09:56] <sun_> hi does anyone know how to get the email-monitor backinto the ion3 statusbar?
[09:57] <aron> guys, I'm still stuck on this X problem, the server is starting but I can't properly launch X applications from the terminal
[09:57] <Warbo> !repeat
[09:57] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:57] <idefine> Warbo: I tried using xbindkeys to run the command to increase the volume on the front volume control, but it won't pick up my function key
[09:57] <up_the_rebels> warbo i386 won't help me because I am on powerpc
[09:57] <idefine> Warbo: any ideas on how to work with that
[09:57] <Warbo> !keyboard
[09:57] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:57] <elalancette> Hi guys , i search some PDF creator software , some hav a link ?
[09:57] <dr_willis> zazeem,  and that Trandgaming_drive is most likely a soft link to .cedega or somthing.. use  'ls -al' and see what its pointing to.
[09:57] <Shinzetsu> lol wth
[09:57] <sun_> hi does anyone know how to get the email-monitor backinto the ion3 statusbar?
[09:57] <Shinzetsu> i set my clocks 2 hrs backwards because it was wrong and now i cant sudo
[09:57] <sparkleytone> lampshade: how hard is it to paste what i asked into pastebin.com ?
[09:57] <idefine> ubotu, i tried all those...it just won't work properly. Nothinkg picks up on my function key
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about i tried all those...it just won't work properly. Nothinkg picks up on my function key - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:58] <spc> one thing that's weird, how come I can't select logical instead of primary for a partition?  Also, how do I set the name (/, /boot) for the partitions?
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug  1 23:49:09 2006
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > sun_
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> changed it 2 hours <
[09:58] <Warbo> idefine: I know very little about audio by the way :) (If I knew more then I wouldn't have needed to twist some bare wires together to plug in my speakers)
[09:58] <TheMoebius> I'm trying to compile an app that uses the Ogre libraries and they're in /usr/local/lib but in the configure script it says it can't locate it and I should check my PKG_CONFIG_PATH what should I set this to?
 i've just restarted, no real change except more sreen sizes are choose-able and i already had the 1280x1024 that i wanted still running at 60hz, login window size is all messed up until i login then the desktop returns to normal
[09:58] <lampshade> sparkleytone: do you care if it looks horribly corrupt and such?  cause that's what it looks like unless the default input redirection uses chracters my system can't display or something
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> guess ill have to relog brb
[09:58] <up_the_rebels> warbo i386 won't help me I am on powerpc
[09:58] <lampshade> and it is pretty hard, because the machine is really lagged anyway
[09:58] <idefine> Warbo, thank though
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> TheMoebius: are you dentist ?
[09:58] <idefine> Warbo, thanks though*
[09:58] <zazeem> dr_willis: its pointing to .cedega
[09:59] <TheMoebius> Jack_Sparrow: no?
[09:59] <bobbyd_> hi
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> THought I might have known you
[09:59] <zazeem> dr_willis: transgamig_drive is pointing to .cedega
[09:59] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: I think we have found the problem :)
[09:59] <buhu2_> kana : Using the LiveCd I entered the /boot folder, found a GRUB folder with one file: device.map  which contains 3 fd0)	/dev/fd0 and (hd0)	/dev/hdb and (hd1)	/dev/sda
[09:59] <bobbyd_> is anyone here running dapper on a via epia 5000 or similar via board?
[09:59] <sun_> hi does anyone know how to get the email-monitor backinto the ion3 statusbar?
[09:59] <up_the_rebels> warbo okay
[09:59] <lampshade> !pastebin
[09:59] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: See if j2re1.4 works, that has been around longer
[09:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:59] <Warbo> !info j2re1.4
[09:59] <ubotu> j2re1.4: Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 21982 kB, installed size 58892 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:59] <spc> On the graphical installer, I can't click a button once it's available unless I move my mouse OFF, then back ON to the button.  Anyone else notice that?
[09:59] <dr_willis> zazeem,  you just need to move your .cedega and the other dir to your new place. and make soft links pointing to the new location.
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> spc yes
[10:00] <ViktorMento> I just can't record a DVD properly, the recorder keeps stopping and starting again, and the final result is almost unreadable. I've tried gnomebaker, k3b and the default program with no results. I've already turned DMA on, and looked everywhere in the forums, manual... etc.
[10:00] <loki505> is there any good p2p filesharing
[10:00] <Warbo> !info mldonkey-server
[10:00] <ubotu> mldonkey-server: Door to the 'donkey' network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.7.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2900 kB, installed size 7960 kB
[10:00] <Warbo> !info gtk-gnutella
[10:00] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.96.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1956 kB, installed size 6988 kB
[10:00] <Warbo> !info amule
[10:00] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !frostwire
[10:01] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:01] <ViktorMento> loki: try amule
[10:01] <asathoor> any suggestions on how to syn a mobile phone via bluetooth to contact (KDE)?
[10:01] <Giskard> can i change files in a livecd install?
[10:01] <zazeem> dr_willis: so i move .cedega to files(other partition), then ln -s /home/zazeem/files/.cedega /home/zazeem/.cedega ?
[10:01] <up_the_rebels> warbo searchedfor jre14 0 packages found
[10:01] <spc> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for confirming.  Already filed as a bug, or should I do that?
[10:01] <sparkleytone> lampshade: i don't care really...just paste it and hopefully i can read it
[10:01] <Warbo> I hate Amule. I have never gone back since trying MLDonkey (and I could import my Amule downloads :) )
[10:01] <kana> buhu2_: i am afraid i can not add to what have been said on the forums. I just can not understand why are you afraid from installing grub on MBR. I have a little bit of a hack here where i use windows boot to run linux. But you have to exactly know what you are doing. It is just that in my case i had to
[10:01] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: j2re1.4
[10:01] <dr_willis> zazeem,  somthing like that.. i always get the silly things backwards.  but that looks right
 i've just restarted, no real change except more sreen sizes are choose-able and i already had the 1280x1024 that i wanted still running at 60hz, login window size is all messed up until i login then the desktop returns to normal no dri
[10:02] <sparkleytone> lampshade: actually hold on
[10:02] <zazeem> dr_willis: thnx ill try :>
[10:02] <buhu2_> kana ok so basicly i dont have GRUB installed on my MRB right? so how can I do that?
[10:02] <spc> warbo: do I "manually edit the partition table", or just select /dev/hdb (which is the 250 GB drive that I want Ubuntu installed on)?
[10:02] <kana> buhu2_: do you have the alternate cd
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> spc: not really a bug, an app dosent set focus while loading.
[10:02] <up_the_rebels> warbo only package it found was openoffice.org
[10:02] <spc> (or anyone else who knows) ^^
[10:03] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: You realise that your card is not listed in the "supported cards" section?
[10:03] <buhu2_> no but i can download the grub files i guess
[10:03] <zazeem> dr_willis:  omg it worked thanks willis <3333
[10:03] <sparkleytone> lampshade: run it again...but add -b just before the >
it is basically the identical same card
[10:03] <sparkleytone> lampshade: that should fix the corrupt look
[10:03] <spc> Jack_Sparrow: hmmm....but behaves to user like a bug.  Does that happen for all dialogs throughout Dapper, then?
[10:03] <kana> buhu2_: am afraid i can not help with manually installing grub
[10:03] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: Ah. This annoys me since I want to get a PowerPC in a few weeks. If there are no ubuntu packages for it then I will complain to someone
[10:03] <dr_willis> zazeem,  bash/linux fundamentals.
[10:03] <buhu2_> ok thanks alot kana :)
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> buhu2_: google super grub repair disc
[10:04] <spc> Jack_Sparrow: or does that happen in windows too, and I just never noticed?  (more of a keyboard user, once I feel comfortable with what I'm doing).
[10:04] <aron> cpk2, mwe: Contents of my xorg.conf file posted to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19428
[10:04] <lampshade> sparkleytone: ok, I have to post again, but the other one is up there that's all buggy
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> buhu2_: it runs live and tries to fix grub by looking at all drives and partitions
[10:04] <up_the_rebels> so wt are you saying warbo?
 do u have any idea how i would fix my login window size
[10:04] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: It defaults to the highest available size
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> spc: you just notice it in live more than normal use
[10:05] <spc> warbo looks like a busy guy - no idea how anyone keeps up with this stream of conversation!
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[10:05] <spc> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for clarifying.  I'll wait for successful install and take it from there, then.
[10:05] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: I am saying that I don't know where to go from here, except to complain. And that I will complain myself since I want to switch to PowerPC anyway
[10:05] <aron> cpk2:wme: I figured it out, I needed the fully qualified domain name for it to work, I used DISPLAY = localhost.localdomain/unix:0
 the login window defaults to highest avail size, then where do i change it back to 1280x1024
[10:06] <kana> Jack_Sparrow: baha2 left you can try to explain it to him here at his post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227133
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> nah
[10:06] <spc> If I just pick the HD, will it know to use the /boot installation?  (which is on hda1)?
[10:06] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and turn off any higher values
[10:06] <sparkleytone> lampshade: where?  i didn't see a link.  make sure to preface with my name so i can see easier, otherwise you get lost in the shuffle here.
[10:07] <lampshade> sparkleytone: this is the new nice looking one
[10:07] <lampshade> sparkleytone:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19430
[10:07] <aron> cpk2,wme: It also worked with localhost/unix:0, does somebody want to explain why the /unix is necessary?
[10:07] <up_the_rebels> well thanks for you help man
[10:08] <zazeem> dr_willis: whats that?
[10:08] <Luc1> I have a problem with Ekiga. I dont hear any sound. Testing sound device is ok.
[10:09] <stefg> !offtopic
[10:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:09] <sparkleytone> lampshade: hmmmm lets try something else
[10:09] <Pelo> hello guys,   I mess up with my printers ,  so I deleted it from the selection and tried to add it from scratch, problem is ,  the manufacturer is no longer available in the list ,  the list got cut down by more then half  , any thought ?  this was a panasonic kp-x1123 printer
[10:09] <up_the_rebels> it's easy to agree with them when you sped three days trying to get java to work only to find out it won't ALL HAIL MAC OS X!
[10:09] <Warbo> Sorry
[10:09] <spc> warbo: why do you hate mac OS X
[10:09] <up_the_rebels> see you kids keep on rocki posix!
[10:09] <spc> warbo:  nevermind.  ;)
[10:09] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: Try complaining to Steve Jobs. On the other hand try complaining to Ubuntu devels and they will sort it out
[10:09] <lampshade> sparkleytone: my only idea is that I did install a new kernel recently, though I had been running it for days without noticing a real problem, perhaps I just didn't notice  (went to 686 from 386)
[10:09] <Bassetts> is there a way to restore a programs orignal minimized window size?
[10:09] <sethk> up_the_rebels, java will work.  I'm not sure which place you are talking about, but it will work in both
[10:10] <cmatheson> this is slightly OT... i'm trying to figure out how to enable quotas for my virtual users on one domain... it seems that their are two ways to do this, courier maildir quotas (bad option?) or the postfix vda patch.  could someone tell me more about the vda patch? (why isn't it part of standard postfix?)
[10:10] <Luc1> Do you know where is problem?
[10:10] <up_the_rebels> warbo i don't need to complain to jobs it "just works"
[10:10] <Warbo> Someone who has more PowerPC knowledge than me (ie. >0) please tell up_the_rebels how to run Java. Tried sun-java5 and j2re1.4 already
[10:11] <Luc1> The sound isnt transfer in Ekiga.
[10:11] <steveire> Is anyone else having problems with googlechat? Mine refuses to connect
[10:12] <lampshade> sparkleytone: I'm gonna go switch back to the 386 kernel
[10:12] <lampshade> brb
[10:12] <Warbo> up_the_rebels: There is always Qemu in userspace and bin-fmt. That will even let you run WINE
[10:12] <cpk2> cmatheson: there is a #postfix channel
[10:12] <mrkoje> Is there a RAM plugin for Movie Player or should I just give up and install helix?
[10:12] <jrib> mrkoje: install w32codecs
[10:13] <jrib> !w32codecs > mrkoje
[10:13] <Bassetts>  is there a way to restore a programs orignal minimized window size?
[10:13] <spc> I would have thought installation would be one of the better documented parts of the process.  I don't seem to be having much luck, though...
[10:13] <mrkoje> ok
[10:13] <Warbo> mrkoje: It works for me with RealPlayer installed and Xine engine (totem-xine)
[10:13] <cmatheson> cpk2: yeah, there's just no activity there
[10:13] <Shinzetsu> woohoo got mp3 to work
[10:13] <Shinzetsu> now for the resolution issue
[10:14] <Bassetts>  is there a way to restore a programs orignal unmaximised window size?
[10:14] <Warbo> spc: Graphical installer is new. Text mode ("alternate") installer may be better documented (maybe because it is used by Debian), but I find it works better anyway
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> Bassetts: the middle button between minimize and close
[10:14] <mrkoje> jrib, already have w32codecs installed...
[10:14] <spc> Warbo: do you know where to find that documentation?
[10:14] <cpk2> cmatheson: yeah you usually have to wait a while to get an answer in there heh
[10:14] <Warbo> !alternate
[10:14] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[10:14] <wheels3572> I have a VERY strange issue here.  I am trying to set up the time on Ubuntu cuz I JUST installed it again on my laptop and the time up at the top right is correct however the current time is off so if I change the current time to the time it is now the time up at the top right corner goes up 4hrs.  How can I get them all to work together right or can it not be done?
[10:15] <Bassetts> Shinzetsu: i mean the size of the window, in unmaximised mode i resized it, but i want the default window size back
[10:15] <jrib> mrkoje: what file are you trying to play?
[10:15] <loki505> how do you play mp3s and play shoutcast
[10:15] <steveire> So what can you do with the text install CD that you can't do with the liveCD?
[10:15] <Warbo> !mp3
[10:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <mrkoje> *.ram file
[10:15] <sparkleytone> lampshade: 'ps wwauxH > ~/Desktop/processes.txt'
[10:15] <mrkoje> Real Audio Movie I suppose what it stands for
[10:15] <Warbo> steveire: LVM, among other things
[10:15] <spc> wheels3572: I keep seeing the same thing.
[10:15] <sparkleytone> lampshade: paste the entire thing
[10:15] <jrib> mrkoje: do you have a link I could try?  That way I can tell you if it works for me
 hey man me again the login window size is still the same
[10:16] <mrkoje> jrib... wait one
[10:16] <wheels3572> spc, is there ANY work around to that do you know?
[10:16] <lampshade> sparkleytone: on a hunch I switched back to the 386 kernel and yeah it seems to be running a lot better now.... still want the paste or should we just say it is a kernel glitch and be done with it?
[10:16] <loki505> umm mp3
[10:16] <loki505> music
[10:16] <sparkleytone> lampshade: what kernel were you using?
[10:16] <mrkoje> jrib,  http://www.sci.uidaho.edu/polya/math144/video_instruction/ram_files/math144-Intro.1.ram
[10:16] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: There maybe a setting in /etc soemwhere. It's got beyond me now :(
[10:16] <spc> warbo:  "failed to create a file system."  Should I be using something other than ext3?
[10:16] <loki505> any one help
[10:16] <spc> how do I know which file system to use?
[10:16] <steveire> Other things might be? Choosing how to mount existing partitions etc? btw: I've never used the liveCD, so really I want to know what it's missing...
[10:16] <Warbo> spc: I would recommend Ext3
[10:16] <sparkleytone> lampshade: it could very easily have been a kernel module being loaded that was causing issues and is unnecessary.
[10:16] <loki505> help please
[10:16] <loki505> HELP!!!
[10:16] <cpk2> !mp3
[10:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:17] <SonicChao> loki505: What is your problem?
 what should i revert the driver back to in order to fix this
[10:17] <Warbo> steveire: To be honest I haven't used the LiveCD to install, but I have picked up a few complaints/requests
[10:17] <spc> wheels3572: I don't.  I'm assuming it has something to do with the timezone set wrong initially, or something.  I'd have more to say, but I'm more worried about getting it properly installed first.  :)
[10:17] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: No idea
[10:17] <mrkoje> I was just wondering if totem had a .ram plugin... I know Helix Player will play the files fine... and I even think Real has released its RealPlayer for Linux but I hate having redundant apps on my computer
[10:17] <lampshade> sparkleytone: I was using 686, and now I'm back on my original 386.  (the 686 I installed a few days ago but I didn't feel any negative effects from it or anything--maybe I just didn't notice for a few days?)
[10:17] <spc> warbo: thanks, that's what I'm using.
[10:18] <blinker> how do I enable SHMConfig?
[10:18] <jrib> mrkoje: it works for me, I did: mplayer -playlist http://www.sci.uidaho.edu/polya/math144/video_instruction/ram_files/math144-Intro.1.ram
[10:18] <cpk2> steveire: the live install is good for people who can hardly use windows, it asks about 4 questions and then installs
[10:18] <wheels3572> spc, Well I would think the same thing too I am wondering if it's a programming bug maybe cuz I set the timezone correctly and it all went haywire lol.  As for installing it properly that should be very easy to do if you need help THERE ask :)
[10:18] <steveire> Ah, right.
[10:18] <cpk2> i used the live install and didnt really like it because you dont really get any options and dont really know what its doing
[10:18] <blinker> !SHMconfig
[10:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about SHMconfig - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:19] <lampshade> sparkleytone: hmm if it were a bad kernel module, do you know any quick ways of looking for that?  Seeing which module was causing the problems?
[10:19] <spc> strange, the installer continued anyways.  It was only supposed to be reformatting the partitions which were already set up.
[10:19] <cpk2> it asks your timezone, keyboard layout and partition size (do it yourself or auto) and i think that was it
[10:19] <spc> wheels3572: can you change the time manually now that your timezone is correct?
[10:19] <kibab> Hey all... why would a cdrom mount with noexec when fstab shows only "user,noauto"
[10:19] <Warbo> spc: Use GParted to format partitions
[10:20] <steveire> cpk2: Maybe I should steer clear in case it formats my hard disk so.
[10:20] <Warbo> kibab: Try adding "defaults," before user
[10:20] <feugan3333> Hi all. Is there a way that I can regenerate my xorg.conf file. I think I've really broken mine while trying to install nvidia drivers.
[10:20] <sethk> kibab, because it is the default?
[10:20] <Warbo> feugan3333: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:20] <spc> warbo:  ok, so I won't leave "format" checked during the install then.
[10:20] <sparkleytone> lampshade: if its a laptop....any of the acpi related modules could be at fault.
[10:20] <feugan3333> Warbo: Ah Thanks!
[10:21] <loki505> totem could not play shoutcast pls
[10:21] <loki505> why not
[10:21] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to change teh display size for the login windows
[10:21] <lampshade> sparkleytone: it is a laptop, but none of the power modules in i386 seem to be misbehaving...  hmmm  I dunno
[10:21] <scrilla_> quick question
[10:21] <scrilla_> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/UzvQMu18.html
[10:21] <scrilla_> anyone knows whats wrong with it?
[10:22] <spc> nice, if you try to cancel installation you get 2 buttons:  [Cancel]  or [Quit]  :D  (should be [Resume]  instead of [Cancel] , I think)
[10:22] <kibab> sethk / Warbo: hmm... found it in the docs -o user => "This option implies the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev"
[10:22] <Ronz> whats a good GUI to fsck my hard drive?
[10:23] <wubrgamer> how do i forward an x session over ssh?
[10:23] <jbroome> wubrgamer: ssh -X hostname
[10:23] <mnp> how do uninstall a package from the commandline?
[10:23] <Ronz> mnp, sudo apt-get uninstall
[10:23] <Warbo> kibab: Adding options after one antoher usually overrides, so "user,exec" many make it executable, but still user mountable
[10:23] <mnp> Ronz: thanks!
[10:24] <wubrgamer> it didn't work
[10:24] <wubrgamer> how do i get to the GDM ?
[10:24] <Ronz> wubrgamer, sudo gdmsetup
[10:25] <jbroome> wubrgamer: sounds like you may want vnc
[10:25] <wubrgamer> no no no, in my forwarded ssh session
[10:25] <kibab> Warbo: yeah... I just didn't realize that having user implied the others.... thanks
[10:25] <wubrgamer> yesh
[10:25] <wubrgamer> i do
[10:25] <wubrgamer> but i want to do it over ssh
[10:25] <jbroome> well, that's different that "forwarding x over a ssh session"
[10:25] <sethk> wubrgamer, use xdmcp
[10:26] <Ronz> and whatis a program that i can fsck my hard drive? its screwing up
[10:26] <t-thing_> Hi. How to block access to specified sites, either with firefox (haven't found suitable extension) or with iptables?
[10:26] <scrilla_> needed the `s
[10:26] <scrilla_> heh
[10:26] <wubrgamer> xdmc p?
[10:26] <Warbo> t-thing_: You could find the IP and add it to /etc/hosts.deny..........
[10:26] <kibab> t-thing_: you might be better off running a proxy of some sort... but you could lookup the ip and block it with an iptables entry.
[10:26] <CarlFK> is smbfs installed by default?
[10:28] <spc> wheels3572: I do think it is a bug during the installer, because the user is (of course) going to set the time as their time and the timezone as their timezone.  So both should be accepted as truth, in whichever order they are applied (anotherwords the time shouldn't change by selecting different timezones, or should at least let the user edit it again if it does change.
 fixed it, changed the driver back from "radeon" to "fglrx"
[10:29] <t-thing_> Warbo: i'll look in to that
[10:29] <Warbo> Paddy_EIREWell, "sorted it out" would be the term. "Fixed it" would be for getting it to do exactly what you want (ie. run GDM in the preferred resolution no matter the driver)
[10:29] <t-thing_> kibab: a proxy of some sort is an overkill in this case
[10:29] <spc> warbo:  I see what you mean about the graphical installer.  I sure wish i could skip the first 4 screens, or have them all on one screen at least.  It seems a little tedious having to wait each time...
[10:29] <Ronz> !fsck
[10:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about fsck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
yeah exactly
[10:29] <wheels3572> spc, I agree I am gonna have to manually edit it in a second anyway lol
[10:30] <cpk2> !tune2fs
[10:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about tune2fs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:30] <spc> wheels3572: did you check for a bug on that?
[10:30] <concept10> Anyone know what happened to the wireless support in dappers network manager
[10:30] <cpk2> easiest way to fsck is to use tune2fs
[10:30] <javaJake> Hello everyone. I'm still trying to get network-manager to work. It sees networks, but won't connect to any of 'em. I've checked out all of the wiki.
[10:30] <wheels3572> spc, No I didn't where do I do that at?
[10:30] <spc> anyone know how to go about finding a LUG (near Atlanta, Georgia, US), or are there such things anymore?
[10:31] <cpk2> spc: my college has a LUG =P
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> spc google will show linux user grou[s
[10:31] <spc> Jack_Sparrow: I didn't have much luck with google, probably need to try some more.
[10:31] <wheels3572> Jack_Sparrow, speaking of LUGS is there a good site that is fairly up to date on LUGS ?
[10:31] <spc> cpk2: I wish I was going to college.  :P
[10:31] <cpk2> =D
[10:32] <t-thing_> Warbo: won't hosts.deny deny only connections to computer at hand, not connections to internet?
[10:32] <MarcN> wheels3572: maybe http://www.tux.org/luglist.html
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I just put linux user group and my city in yahoo and found three
[10:32] <Warbo> t-thing_: If you put a website's IP in hosts.deny then you cannot connect to it (like with a browser)
[10:33] <steveire> wheels3572: Where do you want to find a LUG?
[10:33] <wubrgamer>  /exit
[10:33] <wheels3572> ty MarcN
[10:33] <kibab> t-thing_: if it's a large site, it's possible that they do round robin DNS or something like that... and that you would have to know all the ips to get it to block correctly.
[10:33] <wheels3572> steveire, For maine
[10:33] <javaJake> I really really need help with network-manager
[10:33] <spc> wheels3572: reporting bugs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:34] <MarcN> javaJake: what is the problem?
[10:34] <kibab> t-thing_: re: hosts.deny... yes
[10:34] <spc> wheels3572: it takes only a few seconds to get a launchpad account (just email and password), then just file a bug and describe how to recreate it.
[10:34] <javaJake> MarcN, It sees networks, but won't connect to any of 'em. I've checked out all of the wiki.
[10:34] <javaJake> MarcN, I am using Ubuntu (obviously) with ndiswrapper drivers
[10:34] <jzubillaga> hi
[10:35] <javaJake> MarcN, Everything else connects. It's just this one thing. Do you want syslog output?
[10:35] <jzubillaga> hi hi
[10:35] <jzubillaga> f[ajf[aourfa'lgm\dao[l
[10:35] <jzubillaga> [omfale
[10:35] <jzubillaga> omfa[pjra
[10:35] <jzubillaga> [womr\[wamf\awfw[a\wofmw\aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:35] <jzubillaga> ofawmf\aow[fm
[10:35] <javaJake> MarcN, one last detail: I have commented out all entries but lo's in the interface file.
[10:35] <MarcN> javaJake: look in /var/log/daemon.log to see what kind of messages there are
[10:35] <jzubillaga> ogeamafad[lofwaaaaaaa\[smfd-awmdmaowfjwomaowjfwomdao=dmwao
[10:36] <MarcN> javaJake: right, interfaces file should mostly be empty
[10:36] <Howitzer> does anyone know how i can make the default file-manager thunar?
[10:36] <javaJake> MarcN, well, I have them commented so I can test network-manager, but still uncomment to get connectivity.
[10:36] <Howitzer> (opening a shortcut to a folder should open thunar instead of nautilus and so on)
[10:36] <MarcN> javaJake: that is fine.
[10:36] <t-thing_> Warbo: I can still browse to the site even though I've added the ip
[10:37] <javaJake> MarcN, I'm going to make NetworkManager attempt to connect, and record everything pasted into the log mentioned above.
[10:37] <javaJake> So wait about a minute
[10:38] <t-thing_> Warbo: top of my /etc/hosts.deny says: list of hosts that are _not_ allowed to access the system. That is sites not allowed to this system. I don't think it blocks connections from this this computer to the listed hosts
[10:38] <J_P> people, I install ubuntu server dapper on the CPU VIA Nehemiah 1.4GHZ, install ubuntu-server was OK, but in first boot ubunut dont boot.. :-(
[10:38] <J_P> grub start, linux try umpack and stop with this message : "Uccompressing Linux... OK, bootin the kernel."  during install ubunut-server use kernel 2.6.15.23-386, but after ubunu server finish to install kernel 2.6.15-23-server is installed right ? mey this is the problem.. that ...-server kernel is not supported by VIA ?
[10:40] <erUSUL> J_P: it might be that the servewr kernel does not support via C3, yes.
[10:40] <t-thing_> kibab: roflmao, far from it. First of all I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing and secondly, I despirately need a way to kick habit of visiting like ten of my favourite web sites. I end up reading news etc for hours, which is way too much. But on the other hand, I need internet so cutting it all out isn't an option
[10:40] <MarcN> wheels3572: url?
[10:41] <J_P> erUSUL: so, are there some alternative ? Like as boot with livecd, mount hda1 as chroot and instal via APT 386 kernel for can boot ?
[10:41] <wheels3572> MarcN, I was told to goto launchpad and signup.  I am just wondering why and YES I DO need the url please also
[10:41] <Shish> Where do I go to report bugs / feature requests for the server installer?
[10:42] <Warbo> !launchpad
[10:42] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:42] <Shish> Also, has the security update server been up and down all day, or is it just me?
[10:42] <erUSUL> J_P: yes you could try that but i've never done things like that before so ican not know if it will work... :(
[10:42] <MarcN> wheels3572: put it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:42] <Ronz> quick question: "bad superblock on /dev/sda1" is that good?
[10:42] <t-thing_> Ronz: No
[10:42] <Shish> I know launchpad, but there are hundreds of thousands of packages to file the bug against, and I can't find one called "server installer" <_<
[10:42] <Ronz> what does it mean t-thing_ ?
[10:43] <gsuveg> Ronz: bad sector
[10:43] <J_P> erUSUL: are there another (easy) alternatives ?
[10:43] <Ronz> gsuveg, how do i go about fixing that?
[10:43] <t-thing_> Ronz: you need to try using an alternative super block
[10:43] <wheels3572> MarcN, actually all the problem is is this.  I was telling spc that when I install Ubuntu the time up at the upper right is correct but when I goto set it to my timezone it ADDS 4hrs to it for the current time.  Wondering if that is a bug in the programming or not of Ubuntu
[10:43] <gsuveg> Ronz: u can buy new pendrive ;)
[10:43] <Ronz> gsuveg, its not a pen drive...its my 80 gig external. =/
[10:44] <Ronz> t-thing_, how cna i change the super block?
[10:44] <gsuveg> Ronz: that was my 2nd canche :)
[10:44] <t-thing_> Ronz: that I can't remember, it's too long since I've done that
[10:44] <MarcN> wheels3572: setting the time properly fixes network-manager? maybe there is a file with a future time.
[10:44] <Ronz> so basically im fscked...or, maybe a lack of fsck..lol
[10:45] <spc> MarcN: thanks for the LUGS website you have to wheels3572.  Found what I wanted!
[10:45] <sethk> Ronz, there are tools to recover the superblock
[10:45] <t-thing_> wheels3572: you've probably got "system clock in utc" or similar setting wrong
[10:45] <sethk> Ronz, there are redundent superblocks
[10:45] <sethk> Ronz, if it is ext2/3 check the ext2/3 utilities.
[10:46] <wheels3572> t-thing_, how do I go about checking that.  I set it to New York time zone though
[10:46] <spc> Warbo: do I have to do anything to unmount hdb1?  I closed the terminal, thought it would unmount.  Doesn't seem to accept even if I tell it to unmount?
[10:47] <Howitzer> Does anyone know of ANY way to hide the Nautilus menu bar?
[10:47] <sethk> spc, command is umount, not unmount
[10:47] <Ronz> sethk, do you know the name of the ext3 utility?
[10:47] <Ronz> one with a GUI prefferably
[10:47] <Howitzer> spc, do 'sudo umount /dev/hdb1'
[10:47] <sethk> Ronz, no, sorry.  It may be an option to fsck.ext2 (or fsck.ext3).  check the docs.
[10:47] <spc> sethk:  thanks, I was using the graphical way - right click, "unmount".
[10:47] <Ronz> thx sethk
[10:48] <sethk> spc, ok
[10:48] <spc> howitzer / sethk: thanks.
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Is there anyway I can use my Kubuntu cd to install Kde and all the kde apps in ubuntu
[10:48] <t-thing_> wheels3572: just select your timezone and use a ntp server
[10:48] <Ronz> sethk, "fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda"
[10:48] <wheels3572> t-thing_, what's an ntp server lol sorry new here :)
[10:48] <Zambezi> Anybody here with rtorrent? I have problem. Suddenly the speed just disappear. I have the latest build on both rtorrent and libtorrent.
[10:49] <spc> Howitzer: (or sethk): is there a way to see if it's still mounted?  (by which I mean how do I see that?)  :)
[10:49] <sethk> Ronz, check the ext3 docs.  there is definitely a way to recover the superblock (or, at least, attempt to recover, it isn't guaranteed to work)
 ktorrent is the business man i'd use that
[10:49] <Ronz> ok. thanks!
[10:49] <mdirc> Running ubuntu, I can connect to the vnc server (enabled using the remote desktop preference) using real vnc client when I am on the same lan, but I cannot connect when I am on WAN (with or without vpn) Any ideas?
[10:49] <J-_> how can i make irssi open urls by default in mozilla with irssi?
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Is there anyway I can use my Kubuntu cd to install Kde and all the kde apps in ubuntu
[10:50] <Zambezi> Paddy_EIRE, No, I can't. I need to use a client in SSH.
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[10:50] <t-thing_> wheels3572: syncronize with time internet servers or something like that. Since you're new here, I suggest that you look in to ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com. Those two sites have like 70% questions asked here well answered.
[10:50] <steveire> Paddy_EIRE: I think you can add the cd to your sources.list and install kubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <npster> I have a DNS problem anyone that can help ?
excellent man
[10:50] <Zambezi> Paddy_EIRE, The application works fine, but after a couple of hours I don't even have 1% of my avaible speed.
 talk
 that /var/cache/apt cd i did ended up being a failure but i wont give up
[10:51] <npster> A-J I can use IRC but not Firefox
[10:51] <A-J> what does firefox say??
[10:51] <spc> wish me luck, trying installer with no formatting or partitioning this time....
[10:51] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: LiveCD won't do much since it has no packages. Alternate CD contains the bulk I think
[10:52] <wheels3572> t-thing_, ok ty :) I will do that
[10:52] <npster> Server not found, but if I use the IP of the page it opens it
[10:52] <slappy> hello, I wonder if anyone help me get 720x576 with TV out on a 28" Pal TV
will the live cd give me kde
[10:52] <idefine> xev doesn't pick up my function key any ideas?
[10:53] <steveire> Paddy_EIRE: You seem to want to do a lot of things that I've never tried very early in your linux experience. I hope difficulty doesn't enourage you to cop out, though....
[10:53] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: It will RUN KDE if you boot from it, but that takes up so much space that there are no packages on it
[10:53] <npster> A-J: Can you please switch to dada channel so we can chat more clearly
[10:53] <J-_> how can i make irssi open urls by default in mozilla with irssi?
[10:53] <steveire> LiveCD has packages surely.
[10:53] <Warbo> steveire: I thought is downloaded them all
[10:53] <javaJake> MarcN, here's the output: http://expandapps.org/pages/pastebin.php
 not a chance, I mastered windows which i hate learning linux is a joy
[10:53] <wsjunior> hello, how do i add a group inside of another one?
[10:54] <mnp> what do i need to do to install a kernel driver ?
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: got a slow internet connection?
[10:54] <gdb> J-_: System -> Administration -> Preferrred Applications
no not me
[10:54] <wsjunior> i would like to add the users group to the audio group, is it possible?
[10:54] <ravenous> anyone know how to get an external monitor running on a dell laptop in ubuntu? i dont see any options in the bios and the external isnt getting a signal??
[10:54] <Intangir> wsjunior: dont think so
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: then use the repos
[10:54] <frying_fish> wsjunior: one way would be to edit /etc/shadow
[10:54] <Warbo> LiveCD contains a live system, loads of applications and (in the case of x86 ones) Windows applications. No room for packages, even with squashfs
[10:54] <frying_fish> ravenous: you need toconfigure xorg.conf
[10:54] <frying_fish> whats graphics is it using?
my friends pc has no net, iwas trying to install all the apps on my comp on hers with dependencies etc
[10:54] <A-J> f<ravenous> unction key and the F7 (CRT Button)
[10:55] <wsjunior> frying_fish: what i am supposed to add there?
[10:55] <mdirc> Running ubuntu, I can connect to the vnc server (enabled using the remote desktop preference) using real vnc client when I am on the same lan, but I cannot connect when I am on WAN (with or without vpn) Any ideas?
[10:55] <ravenous> frying_fish: intel, i810 driver
[10:55] <javaJake> I need help with network-manager.
[10:55] <spc> failed again.  Somehow I need to reformat the /boot partition, but GParted doesn't want to let me!?
[10:55] <frying_fish> ok ravenous yes it is possible to use an external monitor,
[10:55] <javaJake> MarcN left
[10:55] <javaJake> So now I need someone else to help me instead
[10:55] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: download the alternative cd
[10:55] <javaJake> :P
[10:55] <Warbo> spc: "sudo mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/partitionname"
[10:55] <Intangir> mdirc: sounds like your firewall is blocking it
[10:56] <J-_> gdb: thanks for the help =D
 why dont they provide the alternative cd in shipit
[10:56] <frying_fish> ravenous: this is a starting point : http://www.wlug.org.nz/i915-xorg.conf
[10:56] <gdb> J-_: Sure thing!
[10:56] <mdirc> intangir: you mean firewall in ubuntu?
[10:56] <onePhatMind> vnc: u need to forward port 5900
[10:56] <ravenous> A-J: thanks
[10:56] <frying_fish> mdirc: the port is not being forwarded
[10:56] <Intangir> mdirc: no i mean like your router
[10:56] <Intangir> mdirc: or .. whatever firewall your using i dont know
[10:56] <javaJake> network-manager found all my networks, but just can't connect to any of them. I've done everyhthing in the wikis.
[10:56] <frying_fish> mdirc: probably the router blocking it
[10:56] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Alternate CD shouldn't be needed, so better to spend resources improving the LiveCD
[10:56] <ravenous> frying_fish: actually its sjust a hotkey i was too blind to see on the keyboard ;)
[10:56] <javaJake> The output is here:
[10:57] <javaJake> http://expandapps.org/pages/pastebin.php
[10:57] <spc> warbo: somehow it was saying it was ext2 for awhile (while I had it mounted maybe?), then somehow changed back to saying ext3.
[10:57] <frying_fish> ravenous: thats for if you want only one at a time
[10:57] <javaJake> Anyone have any ideas?
[10:57] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: (I mean for Canonical. Alternate CD is still needed my many people)
[10:57] <frying_fish> if you want dual screen follow that config, thats what I did for my laptop
 that sounds about right
[10:57] <ravenous> the lcd is cracked so it doesnt matter
[10:57] <mdirc> how do I change the port to be 80 for vnc on ubuntu
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: didn't know they wouldn't but if you have a reasonable internet connection it's not really an issue
[10:57] <frying_fish> ravenous: sucky, I would get that fixed.
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> 1.1mbs
[10:57] <frying_fish> mdirc: don't,
[10:57] <onePhatMind> mdirc, you should't really; but you can do that in vnc server settings
[10:57] <ravenous> frying_fish: my next 300 bucks i will, but this is a fix for now heh
[10:57] <frying_fish> most ISP's block incoming connections to your account on port 80 anyway
[10:57] <onePhatMind> its has a gui
[10:58] <frying_fish> to stop people running webservers on their home computers
[10:58] <onePhatMind> mdirc, vnc has build-in java over the web client
[10:58] <frying_fish> just go into your routers configuration page and set up a port forwarding rule to forward 5900 to the machine you want.
[10:58] <onePhatMind> mdirc, http://myhost.com:5800; eliminates the need to have a client everywhere
[10:58] <spc> Warbo: I did "sudo mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/boot".  Was that correct?
[10:58] <mdirc> actually the ubuntu computer is at work and not at home
[10:58] <Paddy_EIRE> ok guys thats me for today, thanks all for bearing with me as per usual
[10:58] <steveire> frying_fish: What? port 80?
[10:59] <spc> warbo: what does that command mean?
[10:59] <mdirc> so I have no control of the routers at work, but, they allow incoming connections on port 80 I think
[10:59] <yuheng108> why is realplayer don't have sound by other app still have sound
[10:59] <steveire> how would you use http?
[10:59] <frying_fish> steveire: yup, I know a lot of UK ISP's block incoming request for port 80 on a customers connection (unless its a business account)
[10:59] <frying_fish> mdirc: they will most likely allow incoming on port 22 as well
[10:59] <frying_fish> and in which case, just tunnel the vnc through ssh (its a better idea anyway)
[11:00] <mdirc> yes they do
[11:00] <spc> warbo: it said "could not stat /dev/boot"... oh, probably device name, right?  Sorry.
[11:00] <mdirc> but I need a gui access...
[11:00] <frying_fish> ssh into the box and set up a forwarding rule to forward a port on "localhost" to that machine so you can just open up vnc and type localhost:foo and itwill connect
[11:00] <Warbo> spc: There is no such device as /dev/boot! Windows is the only OS which combines the drive's contents with it's device (ie. C:) (and yes DRIVE, since Windows treats each partition as a whole drive). Your device is /dev/hdb1 or something, whilst the files are accessed wherever it is mounted (wherever you want in the LiveCD. In your Ubuntu system it will be /boot by default)
[11:00] <frying_fish> by going through the ssh tunnel
[11:01] <frying_fish> mdirc: read what I have just explained (apart from its more secure than just connecting to vnc) it should be quick
[11:01] <spc> warbo:  ok, looks like it worked.  Thanks for explaining - taking me a little bit to wrap my mind around, I guess.
[11:02] <spc> warbo:  so what did it do?  Did that format hdb1 to ext2?  And is that how I want to leave it?
[11:02] <Warbo> spc: Windows warps minds. Combining device and mountpoint is stupid
[11:02] <frying_fish> mdirc: the option you need to do is ssh -l 1234:localhost:5900 username@host
[11:02] <spc> or is ext2 and ext3 written about in the documentation somewhere?
[11:02] <frying_fish> and then open up vnc and for the connection type in localhost:1234 and it will connect to the remote machine.
[11:02] <Warbo> spc: It has formatted it to ext3, so you should be able to install to it without formatting
[11:02] <spc> warbo:  agreed.  :)
[11:02] <nondysjunction> Hello.
[11:02] <spc> warbo:  what does mountpoint mean, anyways (grins sheepishly)
[11:02] <spc> nondysjunction: hi.
[11:03] <Warbo> (ext3=ext2+journal. "-j"= "with journal")
[11:03] <mdirc> frying_fish: so on the remote machine x I forward port 5900 to where, could you please explain, I thought ubuntu by default disables port forwarding.. TIA
[11:03] <frying_fish> mdirc: for a clearer explanation : http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/Port_Forwarding.html
[11:03] <spc> warbo:  cool!  Makes sense!
[11:03] <Intangir> mdirc: i dont know about all what hes saying but theres a super easy way
[11:03] <frying_fish> mdirc: you are forwarding through SSH (known as tunneling)
[11:03] <Intangir> mdirc: are you connecting from windows? or linux?
[11:03] <Warbo> spc: The folder where the files are accessed. "root" is mounted at /, /boot is mounted at /boot, CDs are mounted at /media/CDROM, ewc.
[11:03] <Warbo> *etc.
[11:03] <mdirc> Intangir: from windows
[11:03] <frying_fish> seriously, this is really *really* easy
[11:03] <nondysjunction> How might I enable multiverse on 5.10? I added "universe multiverse" to the default sources in sources.list, but they cannot be found.
[11:03] <Intangir> mdirc: oh. well then you need vnc ;)
[11:03] <frying_fish> ok, mdirc get putty
[11:04] <Intangir> putty wont help with guis
[11:04] <frying_fish> and then when you go to set it up for connecting to your machine (for ssh access) there is a portforwarding option
[11:04] <spc> warbo:  think I'm starting to get it.
[11:04] <frying_fish> Intangir: let me finish!
[11:04] <frying_fish> forward port 1234 say, to port 5900 on the machine you want to connect to
[11:04] <frying_fish> then, when thats connected open up your vnc client and for the address put in localhost:1234
[11:05] <evert> exit
[11:05] <Intangir> why wouldnt he just connect to 5900 directly?
[11:05] <frying_fish> that way you get a SSH tunnelled VNC connection, which is a) more secure b) will get past the firewall issues c) be quicker
[11:05] <Intangir> ssh slows down vnc
[11:05] <frying_fish> Intangir: because he can't
[11:05] <frying_fish> ssh compresses and speeds up because of compression
[11:05] <frying_fish> and it is a *lot* more secure.
[11:05] <Intangir> well if he cant setting up a tunnel also wont work will it?
[11:05] <frying_fish> Yes it will
[11:05] <Warbo> spc: It was easier before udev and devfs, since /dev would be full of every device imaginable (why the hell di RedHat 9 have "/dev/atarimouse"?) so it was easy to see what was going on. Now udev controls the device nodes (the files in /dev) so you only have the ones you need. That makes it less obvious what they are
[11:05] <frying_fish> thats the whole point of setting up a tunnel
[11:05] <mdirc> frying_fish: So I use putty to setup the port forwarding and point my vnc client to my local machine on which I have putty running.
[11:06] <frying_fish> ssh tunnels get round firewall issue
[11:06] <frying_fish> mdirc: yes
[11:06] <frying_fish> use putty, tell it to do "local forwarding" of port 1234 to the server's port of 5900
[11:06] <frying_fish> then open vnc and type localhost:1234
[11:06] <nondysjunction> How might I enable multiverse on 5.10? I added "universe multiverse" to the default sources in sources.list, but they cannot be found. Any thoughts?
[11:06] <Harkins> I'm running a live cd and have a blank partition mounted -- is there a way to install Ubuntu there? I've got a net connection on the box.
[11:06] <frying_fish> and it will go through the tunnel to the remote computers 5900
[11:06] <Intangir> i dont know my experience has been that vnc thru ssh slows it down alot, makes it hardly worth using, vnc is alraedy using compression
[11:07] <frying_fish> ssh has never slowed vnc down for me
[11:07] <azureal> just a random q--anyone know how to install a bootsplash for fluxbox?
[11:07] <npster> A-J: I fixed it
[11:07] <frying_fish> and I like the fact its a lot more secure, and it doesn't matter about any firewall
[11:07] <eigenlambda> lol ya redhat had a lot of uselesl device nodes
[11:07] <mdirc> frying fish: Thanks! Can you tell me where the configuration file is located for the vnc server on a Ubuntu 6.0.6 installation.
[11:07] <frying_fish> Harkins: the livecd should have the option to do that
[11:07] <spc> warbo: are udev and devfs processes, or folders?
[11:07] <mdirc> frying fish: I will use port forwarding, but just curious
[11:07] <frying_fish> mdirc: sorry no, I would guess in /etc somewhere
[11:08] <azureal> oh well, google is my friend =)
[11:08] <frying_fish> seriously, don't try and put it on any other port, especially not 80, that would be a bad plan.
[11:08] <azureal> cheers
[11:08] <Harkins> frying_fish: I'm not seeing one.
[11:08] <trappist> frying_fish: I use -c blowfish when doing things like that over ssh.  blowfish is plenty secure and is a lot faster than the default algorithm.
[11:08] <frying_fish> just use SSH then it doesn't matter what you're company has in the way of firewall
[11:08] <npster> if someone else has a problem with DNS try this: sudo networking-admin, click dns add the rwo DNS addresses and WOila u Have internet :)
[11:08] <frying_fish> Harkins: dapper live cd?
[11:08] <frying_fish> if so, its clearly there as an icon on the desktop
[11:09] <slappy> hello, I wonder if anyone help me get 720x576 with TV out on a 28" Pal TV
[11:09] <Harkins> frying_fish: Nope, no icon. This is a live cd someone hacked together for Macbooks. Any way to do it by hand?
[11:09] <Warbo> spc: devfs was a filesystem which was mounted at /dev. It controlled which devices were created (if you don't have an Atari mouse then you won't get a /dev/atarimouse file) but then it was replaced by udev (dev in userspace) which is a collection of processes (including hotplug and HAL and stuff) which makes sure /dev only contains what it needs to
[11:09] <tritium> npster: do you have Qwest DSL with an Actiontec modem?
[11:09] <MaDSeN> hi
[11:09] <frying_fish> Harkins: not that I know, haven't run that cd.
[11:09] <spc> warbo: oic.  Thanks.
[11:10] <MaDSeN> how is it that I configure locales on my dapper machine here?
[11:10] <ardchoille> trappist: Can I pm you?
[11:10] <frying_fish> I also tend to do installs from the alternate cd.
[11:10] <MaDSeN> please hel
[11:10] <MaDSeN> help
[11:10] <ardchoille> Hi HedgeMage :)
[11:10] <Warbo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales maybe?
[11:10] <Intangir> how do you set up these tunnels?
[11:10] <trappist> ardchoille: if it's for support, I'd rather keep it in here
[11:10] <HedgeMage> hi ardchoille :)
[11:10] <Intangir> frying_fish: how do you set up a tunnel from linux?
[11:11] <ardchoille> trappist: It's not for support, but for info you may like to have
[11:11] <tritium> MaDSeN: System->Administration->Language Support
[11:11] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: get over here! I'm making pancakes for lunch :)
[11:11] <trappist> ardchoille: ok sure
[11:11] <npster> tritium: NO
[11:11] <frying_fish> Intangir: ssh -l 1234:localhost:5900 username@host   (assuming you just want to forward to that end machine)
[11:12] <Amaranth> hey kassetra
[11:12] <npster> I have a problem. Something deletes the DNSs? HELP NOW !!!
[11:12] <tritium> npster: okay.  That requires a prepend-namservers to the dhclient config file to get DNS working properly
[11:12] <kassetra> hey Amaranth.  :)
[11:12] <Ronz> whats the difference between a primary partition and extended partition? just that extended is >5 partitions?
[11:12] <frying_fish> if you have machines A B and C,. machine A can connect to machine B, but not C, B can connect  to either as it is outside the firewall, so from A you want to get to C, you do ssh -l 1234:C:5900 username@host for this example
[11:13] <frying_fish> obviously the first port number can be what ever you want it to be, 1234 is just an easy option, the final port set is the target port you want to get at.
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> frying_fish: as you know about ssh, if you have a pc behind a router with an ip 192.168.0.3 and your router ip address on the internet is say 123.123.21.4 how would ssh it from the out world?
[11:13] <Intangir> frying_fish: weird.. -l? i thought that was for a different username?
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> outside world (even ooops)
[11:13] <frying_fish> nope, -L (I forgot to capitalise) local -r remote, -D dynamic
[11:14] <frying_fish> -R for remote even
[11:14] <sanmarcos> is there a way to update from dapper desktop to dapper server?
[11:14] <frying_fish> ssh from the machine behind the router to some outside machine? that is probably allowed anyway, most allow outgoing connections on port 22, so you don't need to do anything.
[11:14] <trappist> frying_fish: and -c blowfish to speed it up, in case I didn't mention it
[11:14] <frying_fish> sanmarcos: just disable all the X based things that boot up.
[11:14] <Dattasmoon> is there a ay to convert ext2 to ext3 or to reiserfs without losing any data?
[11:15] <wheels3572> anyone know of a good FTP Client itself?
[11:15] <trappist> Dattasmoon: only by moving your data out of the way first
[11:15] <frying_fish> trappist: yup you did, didn't know about doing that previously, have never had many issues with it really.
[11:15] <erUSUL> Dattasmoon: ext2 to ext3 is easy
[11:15] <sanmarcos> frying_fish, so ubuntu_server just basically changed their installer so that X isnt included and so on?
[11:15] <trappist> oh yeah, to ext3 is easy
[11:15] <Warbo> Dattasmoon: Ext2 to Ext3 is easy, since they are the same (just add a journal by mounting it as ext3)
[11:15] <tritium> sanmarcos: it also has a different kernel
[11:15] <trappist> just give it a journal
[11:15] <frying_fish> basically, and some other different packages, maybe a kernel optimised differently
[11:15] <Dattasmoon> really? cool
[11:15] <sanmarcos> tritium, what is the difference? just changed the preemption model for the kernel?
[11:15] <spc> if I get this install to finish successfully, will it matter that my ubuntu install is on the slave HD?  Will I need to switch it back to master?
[11:16] <tritium> sanmarcos: I dont recall, sorry
[11:16] <sanmarcos> thanks for the help anyways
[11:16] <erUSUL> Dattasmoon: tune2fs -J /dev/hdxx (on umounted filesystem) iirc
[11:16] <frying_fish> spc: not really, unless ntldr is on the master, at which point grub won't get loaded and you won't be able to boot linux.
[11:16] <Warbo> spc: Once it is installed don't go switching drives around or else you will need to change your /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst files
[11:16] <Tommy2k4> !games
[11:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:17] <spc> frying fish / warbo:  thanks.  I won't mess with the drives then!
[11:17] <spc> warbo: dare I ask what fstab is?  (you've already introduced me to /boot/grub/menu.1st)
[11:17] <spc> :)
[11:17] <tracie> Hi, I'm having a little trouble stopping the X server, can anyone help? I have tried both Ctrl+Alt+F1 then changing the run level to 3 and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, the first does not shut down the process and the second just restarts it. If I try to kill the process it just starts back up again
[11:17] <frying_fish> spc: just make sure grub ((or whichever boot loader you want to use that allows access to linux and windows [assuming dual boot here] ) is on the MBR of the master.
[11:17] <Warbo> !fstab
[11:17] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[11:18] <ryanakca> how do you change the keyboard layout in the console? like vt1, vt2, tty1, tty2, etc?
[11:18] <erUSUL> tracie: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[11:18] <sanmarcos> the root user was "disabled" beginning with Dapper, am I right?
[11:18] <ardchoille> sanmarcos: Before that
[11:18] <erUSUL> sanmarcos: it was always disbled in ubuntu
[11:18] <frying_fish> you can always "enable" it if you want
[11:19] <michael> Could someone help me?  My gnome-panel isn't working and it's taking up 95% of system resources.
[11:19] <Vardis> I using dapper drake when i try to umount cdrom showing that cdrom is busy but i dont hear cdrom spin and cant take out cd
[11:19] <erUSUL> !root > sanmarcos
[11:19] <spc> frying_fish: how do I do that?  I didn't get an option during the (graphical) installer on where to put grub - unless that was supposed to be done on the screen where I selected where to mount /boot and / and /swap....
[11:19] <sanmarcos> erUSUL, I know, I was just curious about the versioning
[11:19] <tritium> sanmarcos: always has been in ubuntu
[11:19] <erUSUL> michael: kill it. it will restart
[11:19] <frying_fish> by default it goes to the MBR of the master hdd, so don't worry.
[11:19] <spc> frying_fish: whew!  good.
[11:20] <michael> erUSUL: I tried.  It doesn't work.  It'll only work if I log on as another user (such as root).
[11:20] <spc> install's been at 15% for several minutes (scanning files).  That's probably not a good sign..
[11:20] <baffled> greetings
[11:20] <toxicfume> Does Ubuntu work out of the box with Acer Laptops' wireless lan that have hard-switches?
[11:20] <frying_fish> you may then need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to decide if you want to see the grub menu, and what you want as the default boot options for it
[11:20] <tritium> toxicfume: depends on the wireless chipset
[11:20] <RoninGurl> What's the command to reinitiate the xserver configuration script/program. I need to get it to accept a higher resolution than 1024x768, maybe even 1680x1050 if it is nice to me.
[11:21] <tritium> RoninGurl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:21] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:21] <michael> erUSUL: It restarts, but the menus don't appear, and the hide buttons don't work.
[11:21] <baffled> trying to install 6.06 (have tried server, desktop and alternate) and get a lack of video even after selecting text mode for installation.
[11:21] <RoninGurl> Is that a configuration wizard? Or does it require more knowledge?
[11:22] <cica> hi guys
[11:22] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: I know an 8 year old who was able to get through it on her own ;)
[11:22] <Vardis> baffled try vga=775 befor starting instalation
[11:22] <RoninGurl> ardchoille, that's sure reassuring that my intellect is lesser than an 8yr old hacker chick.
[11:22] <baffled> vardis: k, will do
[11:22] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: haha
[11:22] <cica> can anyone advise of good software to use for viewing mpegs etc etc?
[11:23] <Vardis> cica mplayer
[11:23] <RoninGurl> The real problem is the fact that every distro has its own configuration thing. I thought it was in /something/x11/bin/xorgcfg
[11:23] <Intangir> mplayer definately
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> ardchoille: has more cred when you say your grandfather :-)
[11:23] <FifaFrazer> vlc media pleyer
[11:23] <cica> Vardis: thanks I'll take a look for it
[11:23] <bala> does anyone know ther link to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[11:23] <ardchoille> TheGateKeeper: lol
[11:23] <Intangir> im not sure how it kicks so much ass but mplayer has been able to play EVERY VIDEO ive tried on it
[11:23] <Intangir> which is more than i can say for any windows crap
[11:24] <michael> could anyone else advise?   gnome-panel isn't working.  menus dont appear, and it won't restart properly after killall.  also the hide buttons don't work.
[11:24] <Vardis> bala easylinux.info has manual on english :)
[11:24] <FifaFrazer> also wmv's ?
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> cica: any will do so long as you have the codeecs
[11:24] <bala> k
[11:24] <Intangir> ya it plays wmvcs
[11:24] <Vardis> FifaFrazer, yes
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> codecs I mean
[11:24] <Warbo> Anyone know why Listen isn't working? It is giving an error about locale (I can pastebin if anyone wants). I recently cleared out a load of packages, so it may have crappy dependencies that didn't keep stuff it needs
[11:24] <Intangir> you have to get the codecs though ya
[11:24] <michael> bala: did you check out the guide?
[11:24] <erUSUL> michael: !! first time i see this... can you log out and log in??
[11:25] <Intangir> which i got all in one package ;)
[11:25] <frying_fish> cica: vlc
[11:25] <frying_fish> don't need to mess with the w32codecs if you use vlc
[11:25] <Intangir> but vlc cant play everything
[11:25] <spc> install seems to be stuck at 15% - how can I find out what's going on / kick start something / help?!
[11:25] <frying_fish> ok, you won't get wmv version 3 full support yet, but its much simpler.
[11:25] <Intangir> and its video/sound are out of sync
[11:25] <abo> how do we invite someone to an msn conversation in gaim?
[11:25] <frying_fish> Intangir: not for me its not
[11:25] <baffled> vardis: you mean F6 (other options) and then add vga=775 to the boot options, right?
[11:25] <benx213> there isnt much to mess with: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:25] <Vardis> baffled, yes
[11:25] <michael> erUSUL: when i restart, I get the log in screen, but after logging in, there's no menus.
[11:25] <frying_fish> it works flawlessly for me, ok I don't have the wmv9 support yet, but then I just don't get wmv9 stuff.
[11:26] <Intangir> benx213: its not in the repositories anymore i dont think
[11:26] <subdee> hey, what options do I add to the xorg.conf file to enable tv-out for an ATI card?
[11:26] <Intangir> i had to download a deb from some website i think
[11:26] <frying_fish> benx213: still more as you have to apt-get install w32codecs mplayer instead of just vlc
[11:26] <Intangir> it tells you where in the wiki though
[11:26] <frying_fish> subdee: use aticonfig
[11:26] <baffled> vardis:  same result 'cannot display this video mode'
[11:26] <frying_fish> Intangir: exactly, more hassle, for not really any gain
[11:26] <benx213> you should have enable universe and multiverse repositories
[11:26] <Intangir> ya alot of gain
[11:26] <Intangir> it plays EVERY FORMAT
[11:26] <Intangir> vlc cant
[11:26] <cica> frying_fish: thanks I'll take a look
[11:26] <Intangir> you set it up once, never monkey with it again, ever
[11:27] <Intangir> and everything works. great ;)
[11:27] <ardchoille> !away > bipolar_gone
[11:27] <Vardis> baffled, then sorry i has no more ideas im ony newby to :/
[11:27] <Intangir> also you can use mplayer to rip streams
[11:27] <frying_fish> mplayer uses windows dll's in a dirty way
[11:27] <frying_fish> instead of using the other implementations, the only thing that vlc doesn't do is wmv9
[11:27] <Intangir> which means it doesnt have to wait for any of those codecs to be supported on linux
[11:27] <frying_fish> and I found it to be better at dvb-t than mplayer.
[11:27] <Intangir> cause most of them never will be
[11:27] <baffled> vardis: k, p, thx for the idea.
[11:27] <erUSUL> michael: right click in the panel and choose add to panel in the list you can see the menus... try adding them
[11:27] <frying_fish> this isn't the place for media player disputes anyway
[11:28] <abo> frying_fish, do you know what can play wmv well ?
[11:28] <sanmarcos> !aptitude sanmarcos
[11:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about aptitude sanmarcos - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:28] <michael> erUSUL: It doesn't respond.
[11:28] <sanmarcos> aptitude rocks, heh :)
[11:28] <toxicfume> Does Ubuntu work out of the box with Acer Laptops' wireless lan that have hard-switches? My Wireless card is an Intel Wireless 2200B/G
[11:28] <npster_> can someone make a script that constantly checks /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver 192.168.1.1 and it it is alone then adds 2 strings ?
[11:28] <spc> ok, how long do I wait on the installer before rebooting?  Any other suggestions?
[11:28] <frying_fish> I find vlc handles version 1 and 2 fine, but not 3, due tothe drm, but thats being worked on, and mplayer / xine / anything that uses w32codecs will play it fine
[11:28] <Harkins> What's the package name for the installer?
[11:28] <abo> frying_fish, I used to play them in ubuntu, the same files now after I reinstalled ubuntu do not play anymore, infact they play with no sound
[11:28] <Intangir> abo: mplayer duuur
[11:28] <mwe> toxicfume: ipw2200 is very well supported in linux at least
[11:28] <frying_fish> toxicfume: that wireless should be fine.
[11:28] <Warbo> Can anybody help me with a Listen problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19437
[11:28] <erUSUL> michael: !!?? i do not know what to do next...
[11:28] <michael> erUSUL: The only thing that works is switching between apps.
[11:29] <michael> erUSUL: hmm.. too bad.
[11:29] <bala> will updating to lts 6.06 make it dapper distro
[11:29] <mwe> toxicfume: but I think you need to download the firmware yourself as it's not allowed to redistribute it
[11:29] <frying_fish> yes
[11:29] <Harkins> bala: yes
[11:29] <bala> k tyvm
[11:29] <abo> Intangir, it does not!
[11:29] <Warbo> bala: Not if you use a crap theme :)
[11:29] <frying_fish> firmware for 2200?
[11:29] <michael> someone help me please?!  gnome-panel is messed up! :(
[11:29] <bala> :)
[11:29] <mwe> frying_fish: yes
[11:29] <frying_fish> the kernel has some stuff built in, that works fine.
[11:29] <abo> Intangir, no sound ... (that's for me)
[11:29] <toxicfume> mwe and frying_fish: but the problem is that my laptop has a hardswitch for the wireless card that is turned off by default on the computers startup. I have had problems other with Linux distributions not detecting the hardswitch
[11:29] <mwe> frying_fish: it needs firmware still
[11:29] <gnomefreak> michael: whats wrong with it
[11:30] <frying_fish> My wireless Intel Pro Wireless 2200 worked straight out of the box
[11:30] <bala> why is the background dookie brown
[11:30] <frying_fish> no having to go get different firmware,
[11:30] <mwe> frying_fish: at least until 3 months ago
[11:30] <erUSUL> Warbo: which locale are you using? it works for me here
[11:30] <Warbo> bala: See wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth :)
[11:30] <mwe> frying_fish: and the dapper kernel is older
[11:30] <frying_fish> toxicfume: look in the bios, you could probably do it in there.
[11:30] <bala> k
[11:30] <Vardis> michael, meiby try to renistall it. I mean remove and instal agein
[11:30] <toxicfume> frying_fish: i've looked, there is no option
[11:30] <frying_fish> mwe: I didn't have to download *anything* to get the wireless on mine working.
[11:30] <baffled> anyone have any ideas about how to deal with no video in text mode after the installer loads syslogd and klogd?
[11:30] <npster_> Where do I download game packadges ?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> !games > npster_
[11:30] <mwe> frying_fish: I see. It must have changed then
[11:31] <toxicfume> frying_fish, mwe: the wireless hardswitch only starts if the OS starts it
[11:31] <gnomefreak> npster_: please read your pm
[11:31] <frying_fish> hell, it even works in the livecd, straight on boot, no need to go grab firmware from the sf page.
[11:31] <MaDSeN> hey.. back
[11:31] <Warbo> erUSUL: en-gb. I recently went through debfoster clearing out a lot (A LOT) of unused stuff, so that may have affected it (but I have "python-all")
[11:31] <michael> gnomefreak: everything.  the only thing that works is switching between apps.  It's using 95% system resources too.
[11:31] <frying_fish> toxicfume: check then on the wiki, it may have been done
[11:31] <michael> gnomefreak: it only works if i log on as root.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> michael: killall gnome-panel and let me know if it fixes it
[11:31] <erUSUL> Warbo: utf8?
[11:31] <mwe> frying_fish: or maybe ubuntu got permission to redistribute it
[11:31] <cica> TheGateKeeper: what do you mean by codeecs
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: google say: export LC_ALL=C and then startx
[11:31] <Warbo> erUSUL: Ermm....
[11:31] <michael> gnomefreak: no, that doesn't work.
[11:31] <MaDSeN> what am I doing wrong... I want my system character set to iso-8859-15  how do I do that?
[11:31] <frying_fish> mwe: its just using the stuff with the kernel......
[11:32] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: I have to restart X? Damn it
[11:32] <frying_fish> I am pretty sure if you just grab vanilla source from kernelorg and compiledit it would wor
[11:32] <frying_fish> k
[11:32] <erUSUL> MaDSeN: why would you want that?
[11:32] <Vardis> how to umount cdrom if it is unused but misteriosly locked?
[11:32] <michael> Vardis: I'll try that. You mean not just reinstall in synaptic, but remove, and then install right?
[11:32] <subdee> frying_fish, i've tried it and although the tv flickers, it doesn't show anything and it returns error code 7
[11:32] <Warbo> "sudo eject /dev/whatever"
[11:32] <gnomefreak> michael: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel    than restart gnome
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> cica: can't type tonight, codecs, like w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs
[11:32] <mwe> frying_fish: last I checked "the stuff in the kernel" needed firmware to work
[11:32] <MaDSeN> erUSUL: because Im in europe an use european letters?
[11:33] <Vardis> michael, yes but i'm not shore if it work
[11:33] <abo> !w32codecs
[11:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <frying_fish> well I know I certainly didn't have to go download any firmware from anywhere separately, ubuntu definately had it by default
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: no pain, no gain :-)
[11:33] <mwe> frying_fish: yes
[11:33] <mwe> frying_fish: that's great
[11:33] <frying_fish> will have to see about slack 11 when that comes out,
[11:33] <cica> TheGateKeeper: I'm a first time user of this... so w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs are over my knowledge base ;-)
[11:33] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: I will just use Amarok then, but that takes loads of resources (funny that, sicne Listen is Python :))
[11:34] <ivank> i've installe dnew motherboard and now my ubuntu doenst boot
[11:35] <michael> gnomefreak: how to restart gnome?  should i reboot?
[11:35] <subdee> frying_fish, any ideas? google is not helping :(
[11:35] <Ronz> ivank, new mobo = new drivers
[11:35] <erUSUL> MaDSeN: i'm european and i use utf8 that supports it just fine iso-8859-15 is being obsoleted by unicode (utf8 in unix utf16 in java and windows)
[11:35] <subdee> gnomefreak, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[11:35] <gnomefreak> michael: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:35] <gnomefreak> subdee: yes i know
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:35] <frying_fish> sorry, subdee I gave up on TV out from my ATi card a long time back, that and it can only power 2 outputs at once, so dual monitor and tv won't work
[11:35] <subdee> sorry, wrong name
[11:35] <MaDSeN> erUSUL: also  letters?
[11:35] <michael> gnomefreak: thanks.   i'll be back.
[11:35] <lilbit> I don't remember exactly who, but I got banned from here a while ago, and now I have been let back, and I just want to say thank you for forgiving me and for not holding a grudge
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: there are quite a few google entries on the subject
[11:35] <lilbit> The ubuntu communityu is beautiful
[11:35] <lilbit> relatively speaking
[11:36] <MaDSeN> erUSUL: it wont when i write via terminal  (ssh, irssi=
[11:36] <subdee> thanks or your help frying_fish
[11:36] <tritium> That was nice, lilbit.  :)
[11:36] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: It worked fine before, and the only major thing I can think of is my 1.3GB clearout of packages. Listen may have badly set dependencies and I've got rid of a package it needs
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> cica: they are packages that you install either using gui like Adept or Synaptic, or the cli and apt-get install, but you need to ensure the repos you want are enabled, have you used windows much?
[11:37] <CJ492> any suggestions how to troubleshoot an ssh connection to my Ubuntu server, I can connect locally using Ubuntu on my laptop but when I try to connect remotely using myserver.dyndns.org it keeps giving me password errors????
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: what about a reinstall?
[11:38] <erUSUL> MaDSeN: i have not seen the letters you tiped in my terminal with irssi... tell me if you see      
[11:38] <spc> ok, I starting to think I must have a hardware problem.  Anyone know exactly what the red led on the front of the computer means, and what it means if it goes out until a restart?
[11:38] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: Of the entire system or just Listen?
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: no just Listen
[11:39] <ardchoille> spc: most likely the hdd light, means the hdd is busy
[11:39] <MaDSeN> erUSUL: I do see it... but makes no sense to me.... these are special danish letters im trying to get to show properly in terminal
[11:39] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: Oh. Doing it now
[11:39] <ubuntu_> Hi, I'm resizing an NTFS partition using the Ubuntu installer and it seems to be taking a long time. Does anyone know how long it's meant to take? Resizing from ~155 gig to 120
[11:40] <spc> ardchoille: that's what I had originally thought.  Looks like I'm off to google - don't remember how to troubleshoot this very well.
[11:40] <Warbo> ubuntu_: I find about 40GB/hour on some systems which are badly fragmented and slow anyway
[11:40] <CJ492> SSH PASSWORD ISSUE: any suggestions how to troubleshoot an ssh connection to my Ubuntu server, I can connect locally using Ubuntu on my laptop but when I try to connect remotely using myserver.dyndns.org it keeps giving me password errors????
[11:40] <ubuntu_> Warbo: Cheers
[11:41] <tritium> !caps
[11:41] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:41] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: It is usually a good idea to re-enable the right repositories when trying to reinstall an app :) Silly me
[11:41] <erUSUL> MaDSeN: you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf' to reconfigure your locales
[11:41] <CJ492> :) sorry...
[11:41] <mwe> CJ492: not connection refused?
[11:41] <CJ492> nope, asks for password then get "permission denied" or something very close to that...
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: has been known to help :-)
[11:41] <tritium> MaDSeN: System->administration->Language Support (as I said earlier)
[11:41] <tich> i'm having crazy problems connecting to the internet. i can only (with some luck) do it with a direct connection to the modem. the router will sometimes show a signal (for wireless) but i can never connect with it, either wired or wireless. can anyone help?
[11:41] <Lard-O-Lad> can someone advise with the Synaptics Touchpad Drivers for X.Org (ubuntu default), or that for X.Org/XFree86???
[11:42] <npster_> I have something to report. It might not be a bug but a issue that has to be resolved ?
[11:42] <npster_> Where ?
[11:42] <erUSUL> !bugs
[11:42] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <Aldoliel> CJ492, Have you set the SSH server to allow remote connections? And does the user have the required permissions?
[11:42] <mwe> CJ492: is the host allowed to connect? I think sshd can be configured to disallow certain hosts. did you go over the config file?
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: I keep asking M$ for a 'read my mind' button on visual studio but so far no luck :-(
[11:43] <feugan3333> Is there anything to be done about the error: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch ?
[11:43] <CJ492> Aldoliel / mwe:  Yes I did go over the config file and it did work once serveral weeks ago.  Not sure what would have changed but I can go over the file again.
[11:43] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: I'm getting a 404 for the repo. Does it work for you? "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./"
[11:43] <npster_> It is not a bug it is a suggestion. Where do I do that ?
[11:44] <mwe> CJ492: I would to rule it out
[11:44] <Warbo> There is usually a wishlist in bug trackers
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: me too :-(
[11:44] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: Then I'm off to find some mirrors
[11:44] <erUSUL> npster_: it is the same the site redirects you to launchpad where you can make suggestions afaik
[11:45] <CJ492> Aldoliel / mwe:  I did have an issue where I was putting in the password and didn't realize the "numlock" button was set on my laptop, therefore it was using numbers and not my text for the passcode.  Is there a security setting where SSH will "lock" someone out after so many attempts?  I thought by logging in locally it would releive such an issue...
[11:45] <npster_> !bugs
[11:45] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: this works: deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper listen on their web page
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: http://listengnome.free.fr/
[11:46] <mwe> Warbo: I think it should say "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper ./"
[11:46] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: Thanks, I'll try it
[11:47] <Ignite_> !ati
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <npster_> how do  I know if i have installed WINE ?
[11:47] <CJ492> mwe:  What again is the proper file name for the ssh config file?
[11:47] <MaDSeN> tritium: i know you're trying to help.. but it just dont help me... I've sat all i can to Danish
[11:47] <MaDSeN> tritium: terminal still does not show my letters
[11:47] <tritium> MaDSeN: okay, sorry
[11:47] <jvai> hey peeps, sorry i'm late for class
[11:47] <Vladaz> hello
[11:48] <Aldoliel> npster_, Check in Synaptic, or using aptitude
[11:48] <cius> wow, well that sucks
[11:48] <Warbo> TheGateKeeper: Repo works thanks, now trying Listen again
[11:48] <tich> can someone help me set up/fix a network?
[11:48] <Vladaz> does anyone have programmed software or games under ubuntu?
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> npster_: synaptic will tell you what you have installed, broken etc
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: excellent good luck :-)
[11:48] <Aldoliel> tich, What're you trying to do?
[11:48] <Warbo> AA! Same error :(
[11:49] <cius> apparently, the gcc version that comes with the current build-essential either has a bug or handles things really differently than the one used on the servers at my school
[11:49] <mwe> npster_: search in synaptic or dpkg -l|grep wine
[11:49] <Vladaz> anyone?
[11:49] <tich> Aldoliel, well i have a wireless router that i used to connect to but i restarted my computer and it won't reconnect, not even with a wire.
[11:49] <Warbo> cius: GCC 4.0 comes with build-essential, since that is what the Dapper kernel is built with (kernel modules need to be built with the same version as the kernel)
[11:49] <Vladaz> has anyone programmed games or software on ubuntu?
[11:50] <spc> trying install once again.  What should I mount the windows HD as?
[11:50] <tomas_> hello, after upgrading my comp now has no more SOUNDS
[11:50] <facugaich> Vladaz: lots of ppl have
[11:50] <tomas_> what can i do to correct this
[11:50] <Warbo> Vladaz: I'm attempting to learn :)
[11:50] <Vladaz> what can you recommend me
[11:50] <Vladaz> i was recommended to use anjuta
[11:50] <jvai>  i tried to get ODD WORLD to run under wine, but no go
[11:50] <facugaich> Vladaz: yeah, I use it
[11:50] <Vladaz> but it doesn't work
[11:50] <wheels3572> Anyone in here know of any good FFtp clients and not the server
[11:50] <Aldoliel> tich, As in the connection light on the router doesn't come on?
[11:50] <Warbo> Vladaz: Python, Mono or (if you are used to VB) Gambas
[11:50] <facugaich> Vladaz: How come?
[11:50] <Aldoliel> When you use a cable that is#
[11:50] <gputer> hi all
[11:50] <sethk> Vladaz, anjuta is a good tool for c++ development
[11:51] <gputer> i have ubuntu6
[11:51] <gputer> on my laptop
[11:51] <Vladaz> then i found out, that i haven't got gcc, i've downloaded through apt-get gcc and make
[11:51] <sethk> Vladaz, but I just use text editors (vi, emacs) and cli
[11:51] <gputer> and i have a toshiba satellite.. i can't get my wireless working
[11:51] <mwe> jvai: most programs don't work with wine
[11:51] <gputer> :(
[11:51] <Vladaz> but it doesn't compile still
[11:51] <sethk> Vladaz, apt-get install developer-essential
[11:51] <rendo> How do you convert a .mds/mdf file to .iso?
[11:51] <rendo> Or is there any way to mount those files to work natively with Linux?
[11:51] <sethk> Vladaz, if it still doesn't compile, put the error onto the paste 'bot
[11:51] <Warbo> rendo: Do you mean .md5?
[11:51] <jvai> lol.. mwe, i was told that the wine in the ubuntu repos was outdated
[11:52] <rendo> .mdf and .mds
[11:52] <cius> I don't know where to start fixing the problem between these two compilers
[11:52] <mwe> jvai: not much
[11:52] <Warbo> OK, just that many ISO mirrors offer MD5 sums of the ISOs :)
[11:52] <Vladaz> E: Couldn't find package developer-essential
[11:52] <Vladaz> wtf?
[11:52] <mwe> jvai: all wine versions suck though. some programs and will work though
[11:52] <crimsun> build-essential.
[11:52] <tritium> Vladaz: you mean build-essential?
[11:52] <tich> Aldoliel, there are more people using the router so it the lights on the router are blinking.
[11:52] <Warbo> !universe
[11:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:52] <jvai> ok
[11:52] <jahshua> hey peeps
[11:52] <cius> app works fine when compiled on one, on the other (4) the prog quits early
[11:52] <gputer> anyone got intel pro 2200 wireless working in ubuntu ?
[11:53] <tritium> gputer: yes
[11:53] <azrael0> gputer: Yes.
[11:53] <gputer> hi.. tritium
[11:53] <jahshua> whats the deal with upgrading from Ubuntu 5.10 to Dapper? can anyone help me out?
[11:53] <gputer> i can't get it going
[11:53] <gputer> how do i do that ?
[11:53] <Aldoliel> tich, Isn't there a light for each cable port?
[11:53] <gputer> i just did a fresh install
[11:53] <tich> Aldoliel, and my computer shows the wireless router (right now it has an 87% signal)
[11:53] <gputer> it detects my card.. but i dont' have the wireless working
[11:53] <holycow> guys ... my  dapper installer always insists on partitioning everything in ext3 when i want reiser
[11:53] <gputer> i created a new location and put in the wep key
[11:53] <gputer> but nothing
[11:53] <tritium> hi gputer.  It should have worked automatically, unless you have WEP or WPA.
[11:53] <azrael0> gputer: lsmod | grep ipw
[11:53] <gputer> i have 128 bit wep key
[11:53] <gputer> ok
[11:53] <holycow> has anyone else seen that situation?
[11:53] <facugaich> !upgrade > jahshua
[11:53] <TheGateKeeper> sethk: never heard of anjunta before, might give it go when I finally get round to doing a bit of linux programming, thanx :-)
[11:54] <jahshua> thanks facugaich :)
[11:54] <mwe> jvai: I think you can get word97 to work with wine for example
[11:54] <tich> Aldoliel, no there isn't a light for each port.
[11:54] <tritium> gputer: man wireless will explain how your /etc/network/interfaces file should be configured
[11:54] <gputer> ipw2100
[11:54] <erUSUL> jvai: echo 'deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list to get the latest wine
[11:54] <dngldoo1> how do I access the 'root' HD partition from the file-roller? I'm trying to recover some deleted files
[11:54] <feugan3333> word97, gross
[11:54] <gputer> if i do iwconfig eth1
[11:54] <Aldoliel> tich, Is it that you can't get to the web wirelessly, or that you can't access shared drives/printers/etc on the network?
[11:54] <gputer> it says no wireless extensions
[11:55] <azrael0> gputer: Try just iwconfig, maybe it decided not to call it eth1 for some reason.
[11:55] <erUSUL> gputer: and iwconfig -a ??
[11:55] <gputer> doing that gives me
[11:55] <gputer> lo no wireless
[11:55] <gputer> eth 1 no wireless
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> Warbo: time for me to sling my hook, if all else fails give google a go :-) hope you succeed :-)
[11:55] <gputer> eth0 no wireless
[11:55] <gputer> sit0 no wireless
[11:55] <Vladaz> how can I copy the build message
[11:55] <azrael0> gputer: OK. Then I don't know, sorry.
[11:55] <Vladaz> couse the right mouse button doesn't work
[11:55] <tritium> gputer: please dont hit enter so often :)
[11:55] <tich> i can't get on the web if i use the router. neither wirelessly nor with a wire will work.
[11:55] <dngldoo1> accessing /media/ gives only hda1/, hdd5/ and hdd6/
[11:56] <tich> Aldoliel, i can't get on the web if i use the router. neither wirelessly nor with a wire will work.
[11:56] <erUSUL> tich: sudo dhclient ethx does not work??
[11:56] <cius> is it okay to have gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 installed side-by-side?
[11:56] <mwe> cius: yes
[11:56] <vvheritagevv> cius: yes
[11:56] <Aldoliel> tich, In Networking settings, is everything good? DNS servers specifically?
[11:56] <cius> awesome, might solve my problem, thanks
[11:56] <gputer> ok.. no problem tritium :)
[11:56] <erUSUL> cius: in breezy you needed 3.4 to compile kernel modules iirc
[11:56] <mwe> cius: usually you then use export CC=gcc-3.4 to use 3.4
[11:56] <tich> erUSUL, i've never heard of that i'll give it a try, what does it do?
[11:56] <gputer> any other idea on how i can get my wireless working
[11:57] <vvheritagevv> cius: you just have to specify the one you want to use
[11:57] <gputer> is there no way to get something like nm-applet working ..like i have in suse ?
[11:57] <erUSUL> tich: try to get configured by the dhcpd of the router
[11:57] <Aldoliel> Sometimes my router is a bit temperamental with giving out DNS servers over DHCP for some reason
[11:57] <cius> mwe, so I can export CC=gcc-4.0 later on to go back?
[11:57] <tich> Aldoliel, this is going to sound dumb but i am uncertain what the DNS is.
[11:57] <Vladaz> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kOYHGf26.html
[11:58] <mwe> gputer: first you need to figure if there is a linux native driver for your card and if so if you have it loaded. if not use ndiswrapper to use a windows driver
[11:58] <Vladaz> thats what i get when i press F11
[11:58] <jvai> sorry peeps bac
[11:58] <Vladaz> what's wrong?
[11:58] <lemac> hi
[11:58] <mwe> cius: it's not nesesarry
[11:58] <gputer> great mwe.. but i think intel pro 2100 and 2200 are natively supported
[11:58] <erUSUL> cius: the default compiler is 4.0 you can use 3.4 by exporting CC
[11:58] <tritium> gputer: they are
[11:58] <mwe> cius: unless it's the same session in the same console
[11:58] <tich> erUSUL, dhcp is turned off right now. should i turn it back on?
[11:58] <gputer> then tritum.. why can't i get it to work ?
[11:58] <mwe> gputer: yes and very well too
[11:58] <jvai> yea, i got the intel 2100 in this t40
[11:58] <mwe> gputer: is the ipw2200 module loaded?
[11:58] <Aldoliel> tich. Dhcp would need to be on i think
[11:59] <gputer> how do i know that mwe ?
[11:59] <cius> ah ok, thanks
[11:59] <lemac> sudo: unable to lookup paolo-laptop via gethostbyname()
[11:59] <lemac>  what does it mean?
[11:59] <erUSUL> tich: i do not know.. how do you connect now configuring the interface by hand
[11:59] <mwe> jvai: didn't you need to download firmware though?
[11:59] <NChief> when are the forums up?
[11:59] <mwe> gputer: type lsmod|grep ipw in a term
[11:59] <erUSUL> tich: static ip, gateaway, dns etc??
[11:59] <jvai> nope, hoary found it nicely
[11:59] <Aldoliel> And the DNS is how webpage urls are converted to IP's to retrieve them
[11:59] <basilio> DOES Ubuntu have some form of SYSTEM RESTORE?
[11:59] <gputer> mwe it gives me ipw2100 88628 0 and ieee80211 37064 1 ipw2100
[12:00] <tich> erUSUL, i've been using a static ip (mostly for torrents)
[12:00] <erUSUL> !caps > basilio
[12:00] <mwe> jvai: according to ipw2200.sf.net you need binary firmware to use the linux kernel driver for ipw2200
[12:00] <mwe> gputer: but isn't it ipw2200?
[12:00] <tritium> mwe: it already provided.  She doesnt need to download that
[12:00] <azrael0> mwe: That may be possible, but I'v eused the ipw2200 without a firmware upgrade before.
[12:00] <mindfunk_win> so,,, how do I get binutils?
[12:00] <gputer> mwe:: yes i think so.. but unsure
[12:00] <jvai> oh well, i'm using the 2100 wifi anyways
[12:01] <mwe> tritium: ubuntu comes with none free software. I didn't think so
[12:01] <mindfunk_win> I tried "apt-get install binutils" and nada