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| A-Kaser | poy poy | 09:32 |
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| Astinus- | in which package can i find CC, C compiler? | 03:10 |
| A-Kaser | gcc | 03:11 |
| Astinus- | i installed it, but no cc | 03:11 |
| A-Kaser | ? | 03:11 |
| Astinus- | only gcc | 03:12 |
| A-Kaser | what do you try to compile ? | 03:15 |
| infinity | Astinus-: /usr/bin/cc sure as heck works over here. | 03:35 |
| infinity | (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~$ cc -v 2>&1 | tail -n 1 | 03:35 |
| infinity | gcc version 4.1.2 20060715 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-9ubuntu1) | 03:35 |
| infinity | Of course, that's still gcc, but I'm not sure what you're expecting. This isn't Solaris, our system compiler *is* GCC. | 03:36 |
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| J_P | hi all | 04:11 |
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| A-Kaser | hum | 06:43 |
| A-Kaser | I try to remove quagga on ubuntu-server | 06:43 |
| A-Kaser | and it's not possible ... | 06:43 |
| A-Kaser | dpkg --force-all -purge quagga | 06:43 |
| A-Kaser | don't work | 06:43 |
| A-Kaser | idea ? | 06:43 |
| infinity | A) never use --force-all | 06:47 |
| infinity | B) Why are you purging with dpkg directly, instead of a higher-level package manager? | 06:47 |
| infinity | C) What's the error message? "don't work" isn't helpful. | 06:48 |
| infinity | D) This isn't a support channel. | 06:48 |
| A-Kaser | because I use apt-get and dpkg everytime | 06:48 |
| infinity | But I suggest "apt-get --purge remove quagga" | 06:48 |
| A-Kaser | never a high level packages | 06:48 |
| A-Kaser | apt-get --purge it's same as dpkg | 06:48 |
| infinity | No, it's not. | 06:48 |
| infinity | It handles dependency removal. | 06:48 |
| infinity | dpkg just tries to remove what you tell it to, and fails if that doesn't work. | 06:49 |
| A-Kaser | yes | 06:49 |
| A-Kaser | and I prefer | 06:49 |
| A-Kaser | because if I have other program which need the lib without depend | 06:49 |
| A-Kaser | apt-get remove the lib | 06:50 |
| infinity | Err, come again? | 06:50 |
| infinity | quagga's not a library, and no libraries depend on it. | 06:50 |
| infinity | If you're talking about automatic removal of "auto-installed packages", you're thinking aptitude, not apt-get, and that's not what I meant. | 06:51 |
| A-Kaser | for quagga yes | 06:51 |
| A-Kaser | I speak in general | 06:51 |
| infinity | If you remove A, and B depends on A, B should be removed also. Otherwise you just broke your system. | 06:52 |
| A-Kaser | the problem is not this | 06:52 |
| A-Kaser | I install C | 06:52 |
| A-Kaser | C work alone | 06:52 |
| A-Kaser | but C can have a new feature if I add another lib | 06:52 |
| A-Kaser | So I install lib B without dependecy | 06:53 |
| A-Kaser | after I install application A which need lib B | 06:53 |
| infinity | Yeah, you're thinking of aptitude. Not apt-get. I just said that. | 06:53 |
| infinity | apt-get will only remove things to prevent you from breaking stuff, it won't remove things cause it thinks you "don't need them anymore". | 06:53 |
| A-Kaser | if you remove A with depedendy B so application C lost is new feature | 06:54 |
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| A-Kaser | http://pastebin.ca/112022 | 06:54 |
| infinity | I go back to my statement (D). This isn't a support channel. | 06:54 |
| A-Kaser | it's ubuntu-server | 06:54 |
| A-Kaser | and I suppose quagga is not a user service | 06:55 |
| infinity | Looks like a bug in quagga. | 06:55 |
| A-Kaser | or most of people have BGP at home may be ? | 06:55 |
| A-Kaser | so I don't live in the same galaxy as you | 06:55 |
| infinity | dpkg-reconfigure quagga, tell it to stop the daemon on package removal, then remove it. | 06:55 |
| A-Kaser | same | 06:55 |
| infinity | I used to advertise BGP routes at home, actually. | 06:56 |
| infinity | Until I moved and seriously downgraded my network. | 06:56 |
| A-Kaser | lool | 06:56 |
| infinity | Anyhow, file a bug if you'd like to see this properly fixed. I'll forget about it by morning if you don't. | 06:56 |
| infinity | But from the output, I'm guessing that "dpkg-reconfigure quagga", picking a different option, then purging the package will have you happy. | 06:57 |
| A-Kaser | I don't want to reconfigure it | 06:57 |
| A-Kaser | but I do it before in hope quagga become 'stable' to be unsintalled | 06:58 |
| infinity | I know you don't want to reconfigure it, but it appears to be tripping specifically on a stupid debconf setting (and a broken postrm that doesn't deal with it right), so just humour me. | 06:59 |
| infinity | And note that these sorts of answers can be given to you in #ubuntu. The fact that quagga is a daemon has nothing to do with it, this is just a packaging bug, as could be found in any package. | 06:59 |
| A-Kaser | sure | 07:00 |
| A-Kaser | and for you | 07:00 |
| A-Kaser | what is a server question ? | 07:00 |
| infinity | This is a development channel. | 07:02 |
| infinity | But if you have really fascinating questions that are a bit more than "I can't purge a package, help", we sometimes take pity and have fun debugging. | 07:03 |
| A-Kaser | lol | 07:03 |
| A-Kaser | -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) | 07:03 |
| infinity | Yes, ChanServ lies. I think Fabio created the channel, so I'll make him fix it. | 07:04 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-server:infinity] : This is a development channel, for the planning and co-ordination of Ubuntu Server CD images, installation methods, kernels, and related package sets || Please take support questions to #ubuntu | ||
| infinity | At least we can have an accurate topic. | 07:05 |
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| A-Kaser | gn | 07:06 |
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