[12:09] ok rebuilding packages for i386 and ppc now [12:09] it'll be ready in an hour or so I guess [12:10] maybe a bit more for the ppc === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@AC8F6881.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] edubuntu still tries/hopes to replace kdeedu apps :( (instead of replace gnome with kde and be done) [01:05] what a waste of resources and energy [01:06] Thats a lot of apps [01:08] Yes. Edubuntu is great. but wasting resources & energy is really sad [01:08] I presume you're referring to things like kalzium? [01:09] yes. This was explicitely mentioned in the meeting [01:10] crimsun: at LinuxTag ogra mentioned in his edubuntu talk that they plan to replace all kdeedu stuff. Not sure for how may there are already a as-good-or-better gnome replacement exists === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@AC8FB26B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] crimsun: ah, tuberling misses a gnome equiv too. Write an app instead of 10 pics (that can be copied from somewhere I'm sure). Strange [01:12] heya allee [01:12] hi danimo [01:13] what word here 'ping'ed you :) [01:18] allee: nothing, I just saw you around :) === danimo is actually about to go to bed [01:19] too much typing going on here [01:19] danimo: I stop whining now ;) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:19] well, right waiting for a raid to sync is boring. === allee -> bed [01:19] nite [01:20] bye allee [01:25] allee: night [01:26] crimsun: That's a hefty task [01:40] raphink: what progress? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@ACBD727F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:23] How does bash figure out mime types? [02:31] it doesn't [02:32] It does [02:32] (no, it really doesn't.) [02:32] it's a shell, it cares not at all for mimetypes [02:32] fine how does the file command (Called by bash) figure out mimetypes [02:33] magic [02:33] through libmagic1. [02:33] right I'm as far as /etc/mime.types [02:33] I need to add an application to handle a mime tpye [02:33] type [02:34] I don't think it uses /etc/mime.types, but I could be wrong [02:34] to handle in which way? [02:34] Auto complete [02:35] Ok If I figure it out I'll let you know [02:35] /etc/bash_completion [02:36] Right that's what is causing the problem :) === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-139.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] I think that they only recognize x-audio === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@ACBD727F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@ACBD727F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:21] Howdy [03:22] Hi [03:23] Hello DaSkreech === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:01] Night [04:01] Gnight DaSkreech [04:01] Heya imbrandon === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.57.115] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-86.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:32] hi all [06:28] 3.5.4 [06:29] oops sorry, ment to search of the string not comment on it === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61F56.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.57.115] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:06] Riddell: http://raphink.net/ubuntu/pool/dapper/ [07:06] there you have the packages for i386 and powerpc [07:07] hi Riddell [07:07] hi Hobbsee [07:07] hi raphink === Hobbsee thought she typed raphink the first time. [07:07] alright === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.36.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:21] hi all [09:28] morning [09:29] hi Riddell! you're up early! [09:30] distro meeting [09:31] Riddell: ahh! knew i'd forgotten about something. [09:31] Riddell: how far have they gotten? [09:32] Riddell: and i'll need our meeting moved to being on a thursday night 2100UTC, rather than a wednesday night 2100UTC. [09:32] Hobbsee: bout half i would guess === Hobbsee screwed that up, after changing maths classes. and forgot to go to class today. oops. [09:32] if you want me to be there, that is :P [09:43] Hobbsee: ok, we'll change that, it's not been announced anywhere yet [09:43] Riddell: sorry about that. [09:50] Riddell: what stuff did you say in the meeting? [09:54] see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DevelTeamMeeting20060803 [09:54] Riddell: i saw there before. a blank section :P [09:54] updated [09:54] oh yay, here it is :) [09:54] nice [09:57] imbrandon: the storms finished there yet? [09:58] no still raining like ...... ummm yea , but its calmed down a bit no more power outages i dont think [09:58] imbrandon: ah nice. [09:58] sides i got the router on the ups with the computers now soo even if it does no biggie unless its out for more than ~45 minutes [09:58] or so [09:59] imbrandon: nice. so i should crack my whip, and konversation packages will appear? :P [10:00] hhahah lemme figure out how to merge there two bzr branches and i'll work on the new edgy konversation ;) [10:00] s/there/these [10:00] hehe [10:00] Hobbsee: this come accross my rss a few minutes ago, you might like it [10:00] http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,71515-0.html?tw=rss.index [10:07] imbrandon: nice... === Hobbsee wonders how to request that a package is taken out of hte archive. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] hi Seveas [10:08] heya Seveas [10:08] Hobbsee: why ? [10:08] Hobbsee: file a bug on it and subscribe ubuntu-archive [10:08] imbrandon: to get kdelibs-bin out of edgy, so people dont start depending on it again. [10:08] Riddell: yeah, that's what kamion said. i'm more looking for what goes *into* the bug. [10:08] "please remove, it no longer exists" [10:09] hi imbrandon and Hobbsee [10:09] Riddell: right [10:09] Riddell: well, it does exist for the time being, hence it's removal. === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-196-106.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:13] Riddell: can you eyeball https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/48954 please? [10:13] Malone bug 48954 in kdelibs "KDE File Sharing doesn't work with 2-character long home directories" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [10:13] Riddell: iv'e got no idea what the intended response is - but it may be useful to you === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.66.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] seems correct at a glance [10:16] I wonder where fileshareset is used [10:17] Riddell: we're definetly removing amarok-arts, and leaving only amarok-xine and amarok-engines, right? [10:17] Hobbsee: yep [10:17] cool [10:17] Riddell: anything else to file death requests on? [10:17] apart from yama? (i wish!) [10:18] just those two I think but the place to check is http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/edgy_probs.html [10:19] aye, just those two [10:19] Riddell: yeah, that's where i was looking in the first place [10:19] Riddell: cool :) [10:21] right. that's done === Hobbsee wonders just how many of the amarok bugs are fixed with 1.4.2 [10:22] fabo: ping? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] damn, we need a freeze exception for kopete [10:27] ICQ broke protocols again [10:28] 0.12.2 out soon [10:28] hmm, we should get that into dapper-updates [10:28] danimo: how many hours ago did they break it? [10:28] Riddell: which? 0.12.2, or the icq fix? [10:28] Hobbsee: a few days ago already, but my client was connected until 2 minutes ago [10:28] Hobbsee: isnt there a patch in kde svn to stop it from breakin every time they change the protocal ? [10:29] Hobbsee: then suddenly, the server disconnected me [10:29] danimo: i fixed that....apt-cache policy kopete [10:29] Hobbsee: you already did the ecno icq fix didn't you? [10:29] and are you on dapper/edgy/what? [10:29] Riddell: i've done the last two. [10:29] :P [10:29] Hobbsee: cool, sorted [10:29] imbrandon: there is. i'm waiting for 0.12.2 for it, or when they break it again. whichever happens first. [10:30] ahh [10:30] mainly cos i'm lazy, and i'm not happy with main stuff at the moment :P [10:30] shush ;) [10:30] 0.12.2 downloads ICQ fixes from the web if it fails to connect [10:30] Riddell: indeed :) [10:30] Riddell: yea thats what i was talking about in SVN [10:30] Riddell: updates from the web? [10:31] Riddell: as in binary modules? [10:31] danimo: not rightly sure [10:31] Hobbsee: and as many of us that work on kopete i have just learned the greatness of bzr branches on LP , we might look into one for kopete [10:31] imbrandon: yeah. or just keep throwing our versions into the archive, i guess. [10:31] danimo: presumably not binary modules, just something telling it of the correct version to report to icq [10:32] imbrandon: you might want to look at talking to upstream, and getting involved up there with stuff :) [10:32] Riddell: ah, ok [10:32] Hobbsee: yea true [10:32] i'm still getting used to all this new stuff though i need to cutback err better word for it , not take any more new stuff on till i finish some of what i started [10:33] ;) [10:33] give me a week i'll be caught back up ;) [10:33] why can't just everyone use jabber? :} [10:33] danimo: i do use jabber but convice my 600+ guild mates on UO to use jabber ;) [10:34] plus i like my semi low icq number ;) [10:34] imbrandon: heh [10:34] danimo: yeah, exactly. jabber is very nice :) [10:34] imbrandon: hehe fair enough [10:35] Hobbsee: I never bothered migrating to jabber transports, because jabber isn't the most reliable service either, at least on jabber.org [10:35] danimo: that is true. same for .org.au [10:36] but honestly bzr on LP is teh shiznit , it can keep a /upstream branch thats updated^Wsynced from svn and a "ubuntu" branch with out changes that merge with the upstream svn stuff, all very slick , and i just figured out how to use it lol [10:37] s/with out/with our [10:37] Hobbsee: how often does it go offline? [10:37] imbrandon: nice :) [10:37] Hobbsee: and for how long? [10:38] danimo: dont remember - dont watch it too closely. i just get trouble connecting' [10:38] oh darn it! i'm late again! [10:38] it fails for me every two weeks or so [10:38] bye all! [10:38] later Hobbsee [10:38] Hobbsee: bye :) === Hobbsee is late to everything. :( [10:38] Hobbsee: for what this time? [10:38] danimo: bible study [10:39] Hobbsee: oha === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-200-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] k3bsetup cannot update all permissions as root === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@ACCE1B34.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.122] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.122] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] what version of g++ was used to compile the KDE 3.5.3 kubuntu packages? [12:17] :( [12:18] Ignite_: which ones? [12:19] the ones in this repo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main [12:20] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/gcc-defaults [12:20] thanks [12:20] gcc-4.0-base (>= 4.0.3) [12:20] :) [12:23] Riddell thankx for the KDE 3.5.4 packages :D === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-206-3.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp138-92.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:51] lnxkde: are you using them on dapper? === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-207-228.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fritsch [n=fritsch@vpnwww01.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] heh just went darring and tried xgl/compiz on kubuntu [01:13] uh oh [01:14] lol [01:14] it works fine [01:14] but [01:14] it breaks applications :/ [01:14] interesting [01:14] which apps? [01:14] erm [01:14] it ripps applets out of kicker [01:14] they appear as windows [01:15] but their skrewd [01:15] curious [01:15] and kaffeine doesnt start [01:15] some funky window manager talking problems going on there [01:15] ag no [01:15] how about kmplayer? [01:15] i havnt tried [01:15] xine-ui shows up with distortion in the images [01:15] i decided to rather turn it off [01:16] some of that is just xgl stuff [01:16] viviersf: this with the ubuntu packages on dapper? [01:16] yeh ajmitch [01:16] no wonder you're having issues [01:16] lol [01:16] :/ [01:16] those packages are old, barely updated from when it was first released [01:16] erm [01:17] you aren't serious ? [01:17] :( [01:17] of course I am [01:17] here go again [01:17] :P [01:17] kde with x.org 7.1 works nicely enough on my intel-using laptop though [01:17] *use other repos* [01:17] oh dear === ajmitch waits for his system to break [01:18] ajmitch: so no MOTU able to help keep compiz up to date? [01:18] Riddell: well I just updated xgl, and was looking at compiz [01:18] you're the man ajmitch :) [01:18] xgl in edgy is a good improvement [01:19] lol [01:19] well [01:19] Riddell: sorry for disturbing you again ;-) what about the fixed kde packages from raphink? [01:19] im not daring enough to use edgy just yet @ ajmitch [01:19] fritsch: I'm compiling it now for amd64, give me an hour or so [01:19] viviersf: come on, live on the edge [01:19] lol [01:19] this pc is at home [01:20] Riddell: ty, mine is running, but the guys on #kubuntu are asking ... [01:20] with NO internet connection [01:20] rather not [01:20] heh [01:20] probably not a good idea then [01:20] ^%$^&@#$ this is driving me batty [01:21] whats wrong imbrandon [01:21] fskin perl script complaing about an uninitialized but i cant find it ..... been looking 20 minutes [01:21] lol [01:21] s/uninitialized/uninitialized var [01:22] it's perl [01:22] lol tell me about it, i'm just about to the point to redo it in python ( some other day ) [01:23] might as well [01:23] do it [01:23] :D [01:23] i cant do perl [01:23] and i dont want to [01:23] imbrandon: does perl give the line of code where it happens? [01:23] since i learned python [01:24] allee: yea and i'm usin carp to backtrace too [01:25] imbrandon: where the script and that the error output? [01:25] allee: Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 391 [01:26] and let me push it one sec [01:31] allee: bzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/apt-mirror/ubuntu [01:32] imbrandon: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock: transport is read only [01:33] imbrandon: sorry my 1st time bzr usage. Should I use something else than 'checkout' [01:33] uhm, users with problems. bbl [01:33] umm dunno lemme just put it on http for the moment ( i'm a new bzr user too ) [01:33] kk [01:35] I think you can only branch from http [01:35] if you have commit rights you can checkout with sftp://user@ [01:35] ahh [01:35] right [01:35] for which you need python2.4-paramiko [01:35] yup need that for push too [01:35] well sftp push [01:35] i guess [01:36] allee: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/apt-mirror-0.4.4/apt-mirror is the perl script when you get back ( if it needs the other conf files they are in that dir too ) === imbrandon cant beleave i cant find this damn thing === Ignite_ [n=Ignite@ACCE1B34.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] Riddell: did you patch kopete? [01:56] danimo: which? [01:56] hobbsee did the dapper-updates and edgy fixes [01:56] Riddell: ah, cool [01:57] although I didn't think anyone used ICQ any more [01:57] Riddell: to include the patch? [01:57] yes [01:57] you guys are just too fast :) [01:57] ok right no @ ajmitch 3rd party xgl is worse than dappers [01:57] viviersf: in what way? [01:57] in that it gives a segment fault :p [01:58] excellent :) [01:58] hehe === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] hey [02:09] Riddell: I haven't been available those last days [02:10] I leaved my appartment and it took a bit of time and now I'm leaving in vacations... [02:10] imbrandon: just had a quick look at the code. You checked that $lines{"Files:"} in line 391 is defined? print "$lines{Files:}\n [02:10] print "$lines{Files:}\n" if exists $lines{Files:}; [02:10] I'll be available arround 08/22 and full time to polish edgy [02:10] just to insinst I'm not leaving definitly ;) [02:11] hey allee [02:11] Tonio_: going on holiday anywhere nice? [02:11] hi Tonio_ === allee wish he had also time to help with edgy full time [02:11] Riddell: I was supposed to go to croatia [02:11] bbl [02:12] but since I didn't receive my new identity papers (government's fault) I cannot leave france [02:12] so I'm going in the south west [02:12] allee: well I will have 6 month of full free time to work on ubuntu starting september :) [02:13] Tonio_: croatio is too dangrous: Food much delicous!!! [02:13] but at the moment I'm totally unavailable.... [02:13] allee: that was one of the reasons I wanted to go there :) [02:13] heh heh [02:13] allee: in fact I'm leaving paris to go in my girlfriend's appartment === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:14] Tonio_: sounds very good too [02:14] bbl [02:14] but it takes time to reorganize the appartment, painting etc...... [02:14] that's the reason I'm not there for a few days :) [02:15] the only point is I cannot go to croatia [02:15] Tonio_, Croatia? I am in Croatia :) [02:16] where were you supposed to go? [02:16] pygi: hvar [02:17] but that'll now wait for the next summer, thanks to the french government [02:17] Tonio_, nice :) [02:17] it's nice there :) [02:22] qstring_to_xtp result code -2 [02:24] allee: woot found it , was some extra empty lines i wasent accounting for at the end of Packages.gz [02:24] allee: thanks [02:25] imbrandon: for what? I couldn't help you ;) [02:25] heh well for trying ;) [02:26] imbrandon: np. I was glad to see some perl code after all those python scripts *duck* [02:26] hahaha === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-199-213.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:52] hi all [02:52] hi Hobbsee === Hobbsee is still in one piece. yay. [02:53] morning Hobbsee [02:53] you were worried you woldn't be in one piece? [02:53] jjesse: i went skidding down the road earlier === Hobbsee must have been only a few cm from missing the other car. [02:53] ah, well i'm glad you are in one piece then [02:54] yes. me too. === Hobbsee forgot that it was raining, and was already running late. [02:56] @time Detroit [02:56] Current time in America/Detroit: August 03 2006, 08:56:53 [02:56] @time GMT [02:57] @time london [02:57] Current time in Europe/London: August 03 2006, 13:57:03 === Hobbsee waves to Riddell === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:59] hi Hobbsee === Hobbsee definetly wants no other horrible and scary things tonight. [03:00] sarah@sarah: sudo /etc/init.d/sanity restart [03:00] heh [03:00] ** testers needed for deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main [03:00] give me a few to go get my laptop and i'll install them === Hobbsee isnt on dapper. [03:00] thanks imbrandon [03:00] Riddell: okay, me fetches the updates [03:02] Riddell: though, it does not update the kdelibs packages [03:03] Riddell: are these the same version as before? [03:03] Riddell: yes, they are .. [03:03] fritsch: they're the same as raphink's versions [03:04] Riddell: okay, just for the people who had yours original installed, are not updated, too? [03:04] they have a larger version number than the older ones [03:06] Riddell: okay, having had installed raphink ones: Warnung: deaktualisiere kdelibs4c2a von 3.5.4-0ubuntu2 zu 3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1 === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-199-213.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:07] oh, that's raphink's old ones, they're wrong [03:07] Riddell: good, so fixed for me now, installed yours. ty very much [03:08] Riddell: will download 3.5.4 (I want my work dapper fixed - working in strange KDE for the whole day...;-)) [03:08] Riddell: may I introduce other volunteers on #kubuntu for testing? [03:08] fritsch: I've already asked for testing there, go ahead and point them at it [03:09] what is the repo to add for 3.5.4? [03:09] deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main [03:09] 14:00 < Riddell> ** testers needed for deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main [03:09] how odd. this must be the first lot of kde packages that i havent tested. [03:10] Riddell: okay ;-) that made fun === Lure cannot update as security.ubuntu.com seems to hang on apt-get update :-( [03:10] Lure: apparently it's slow [03:10] Hobbsee: interesting, as archive.ubuntu.com is OK... [03:10] you don't need security :) [03:10] hehe [03:10] security's overrated. [03:10] Riddell: will comment it out... === Hobbsee was telling someone how it was safe enough to use online banking today. [03:11] ;-) [03:11] instead of carrying around large amounts of cash. [03:11] afaik http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/ is the same thing anyhow [03:12] hmmm security is running slow for me as well [03:12] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security [03:13] ^^ same thing from archive. [03:13] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse [03:13] rather [03:15] kk Riddell downloading now ( eta 7 minutes ) [03:15] woot === Lure is waiting for a.u.c download at 1210 Bytes/sec (good old modem days) :-( [03:17] ouch [03:18] heh === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-014-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:20] Riddell: are you running kde 3.5.4 edgy at the moment? [03:20] fritsch: i am [03:20] i am [03:20] also [03:20] Riddell: what happens, if you do: SystemSettings ->Region and Country Settings ->Shortcuts [03:21] ->Command Shortcuts [03:21] sorry for the bad translation [03:21] can you find this? [03:21] fritsch: i'm there now, whats up? [03:22] have you clicked the things i said? [03:22] fritsch: yep. then what? [03:22] yes === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:22] SystemSettings -> Region and Country Settings, then the second from down [03:23] yes fritsch its on my screen now, what next ? [03:23] then the second button unter current scheme [03:23] ok ? [03:23] no crash? [03:23] nope [03:23] works fine for me [03:23] here on dapper at least for two users this happens [03:24] imbrandon: [03:24] my dapper is updating as we speak [03:24] no crash here either [03:24] i'll try it on dapper [03:24] version 3.5.4? [03:24] when it gets done [03:24] Sysinfo for 'sarah': Linux 2.6.17-5-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz at 2394 MHz (4793 bogomips), HD: 9/22GB, RAM: 590/995MB, 104 proc's, 35.12min up [03:24] yes 3.5.4 edgy [03:24] fritsch: yep [03:24] Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.17-5-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)CPU2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5874 bogomips), , RAM: 721/1003MB, 107 proc's, 10.8h up [03:24] imbrandon: can i start it with LANG=en_US control-center? [03:25]