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pihl`when I access Wireless Assistant I don't get any wireless connections up (after I logged in with su password)12:09
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bl3ssingso ... the new kubuntu 6 is in my hands. What else I do miss? :D12:10
bl3ssinglet's see the newest firefox version. :)12:11
Chousukebl3ssing: you should keep using the one provided by (k)Ubuntu12:11
Chousukebl3ssing: you get backported security, and don't have to break package management.12:12
bl3ssingthat's the one Chousuke  ... :)12:13
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bl3ssingwhy is my Adept read-only? :(12:19
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bl3ssingI tried sudo killall -9 adept, but ... nothing. :(12:20
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pihl`do I have to install anything to get a wireless connection working? It says no networks found when I try access wlassistant with sudo12:22
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bl3ssingwhy is my Adept read-only? :( I tried sudo killall -9 adept, but ... nothing. :(12:23
Firetechpihl`: you might need drivers for your wlan card12:24
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pihl`yeah, it gives me the error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:24
pihl`where can you get drivers, then? :P12:24
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Firetechpihl`: you need to know the card model12:25
draikHello everyone12:25
larson9999bl3ssing: i delete the file in the message when i get that12:25
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pihl`hmm12:26
bigbill52amy kdm is somehow corrupt...i  had to shut it off using the boot manager.  i now start up in a terminal window.  I can type gdm and start my log in.12:27
pihl`is there a way to find that out from within kubuntu? :D12:27
Firetechpihl`: the BadDevice thing has nothing to do with that, thatr's an X error (more info how to fix it at http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0 )12:27
bigbill52ahow do i fix kdm12:27
pihl`ok, thanks :)12:27
Firetechpihl`: check if there's a kinfocenter in your k menu under System12:27
bigbill52ai have installed both gnome and kde on my computer12:27
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pihl`yup12:28
Firetechpihl`: then start it12:28
pihl`it's up12:28
Firetechpihl`: OK, then select PCI in the list to the left (if your card is internal, or PCMCIA if your card is removable)12:29
bl3ssinglarson9999,  how do you delete ... and what?12:29
pihl`it's pci12:29
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Firetechpihl`: ok, there you have a list of connected PCI cards12:29
bigbill52aif i try to start up kdm, it goes into a loop and never loads either kde or gnome12:30
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pihl`Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [Airforce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller12:30
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larson9999i get a filename in the error message and i just 'sudo rm that_file_name'12:30
pihl`I guess it's that one :P12:30
Firetechguess so12:31
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Firetechpihl`: I can't help you to install drivers for that card, don't know anything about it... :/12:32
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pihl`k ;/12:32
FiretechI recognise the name, thopugh, so you should ask around here...12:32
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Firetechpihl`: google might know too ;)12:34
pihl`http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/downloaddrivers.php12:34
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pihl`which one should I download of them? Linux?12:34
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Firetechpihl`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear <-- that might help you :)12:36
pihl`thanks :)12:36
Firetechit's a bit gnome oriented though...12:37
Firetechpihl`: you should skip step 512:38
pihl`ok12:38
Firetechwlassistant can do that for you12:38
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Firetechnow I'm going to bed. night people (morning to some and g'day to some others...) :)12:40
soulriderhi!12:40
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bl3ssinglarson9999,  how do you delete ... and what?12:43
bl3ssinglarson9999, are you still alive?12:43
bl3ssing:)12:43
soulriderbl3ssing: what do you need to delete ?12:44
bl3ssingI want to get into Adept with full right, not read only. And larson9999 said that: "larson9999 bl3ssing: i delete the file in the message when i get that"12:44
bl3ssingsoulrider, I asked him again about what he mean .. and he didn't answer. Maybe's too busy or ... something comes up?12:45
soulriderdunno, i enver had a problem12:45
rr72is this only for kubuntu help or for kubuntu packs for other applications?12:45
soulrideri suggest you go into groups and users12:45
soulriderand edit your permissions12:45
soulriderrr72 i dont see why you cant ask about other stuff12:46
rr72Hawkwind may get  upset12:46
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soulrideri mean, if its not too offtopic i dont see why its wrong12:47
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Hawkwindrr72: If you obey the rules and don't talk about offtopic stuff then you're fine.  You seem to get offtopic quite often is the problem and that's what gets you banned from other channels12:48
rr72but people will just tell me to go to the channel im in getting no help and already on the ops ignore list soon to be banned for asking for help12:48
soulriderrr72:  PM me adn ill see if i can help you12:49
bl3ssingsoulrider, how can I change my status in a root?12:49
DaSkreechKubuntu stuff is on topic Ubuntu stuff is allowed Linux stuff drawn out can be offtopic Guns and grabbing warez -> offtopic12:49
rr72i doubt it12:49
gnomefreakrr72: if you need support give us what we can help you with if its not kubuntu(ubuntu) releated you will be redirected to kubuntu-offtopic12:49
rr72i know a little more than u do ;)12:49
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gnomefreakrr72: your attitude isnt gonna help you12:50
rr72having  trouble with wine12:50
soulrideri dunno then12:50
gnomefreakrr72: try #winehq12:50
cow_2001i have this problem - when i'm not moving the mouse stuff on screen move a lot slower12:50
soulriderbl3ssing:  go to your system settings12:50
rr72gnomefreak~ i am almost banned tehre12:50
bl3ssingcow_2001, unplug your mouse, than plug it again. :D12:50
archangel_gnome sucks12:50
rr72soulrider~ didnt i tell u id be directed to a dif chan12:50
gnomefreakrr72: your comment stopped me from helping youw ith wine ( i guess you will need to ajust your attitude)12:51
gnomefreakadjust*12:51
soulriderlol12:51
cow_2001it's a touchpad12:51
cow_2001on an inspiron 6000 Dell laptop12:51
soulriderbl3ssing: go to your system settings, then Users and Groups and adjust there12:51
bl3ssingsoulrider, i went there and i've found my username. I tried to change it .. but how? I clicked modify ... :(12:51
cow_2001so i can't unplug it as easily as a regular mouse12:51
rr72gnomefreak~ u know howmany times ive heard that in real life compared to IRC, i lot less in RL then IRC12:51
soulrideryou cans et your groups and persmissions12:51
archangel_anyone here have an old Pionex pc?12:51
soulriderclick on the administrator mode button12:51
fritschrr72: same as before on #kde12:52
TheHighChildgnomefreak: I think, not sure, that he was talking to soulrider with that comment12:52
archangel_wondering how well linux ran on it12:52
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gnomefreakTheHighChild: i know who he was talking to12:52
soulriderrr72 know more a lot abut this than i do12:52
soulriderim newbie ;D12:53
gnomefreakTheHighChild: i wont help him due to his attitude so i sent him to #winehq ;)12:53
rr72fritsch~ im not surprised if tehre are secret underground cult haters of rr7212:53
fritschrr72: its just funny, you join a channel and tell everyone, how many people hate you12:53
soulrideris therea  way to put a console window int he desktop but kind of make it not move, just stay there12:53
soulriderand maybe transparent12:53
fritschsoulrider: perhaps there exists a superkaramba plugin12:54
HawkwindGuys, the best thing to do is just ignore him.  He's nothing but a troll and gets banned from practically every channel he visits12:54
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soulridersuperkaramba? LOL12:54
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TheHighChildsoulrider: You can change transparency in Settings > configure konsole as for having it in a fixed position right click on the title bar > keep above other windows12:54
gnomefreakrr72: 10 minute mute12:54
soulriderthanks THX12:55
soulriderTHC*12:55
cow_2001bl3ssing, it's a touchpad12:55
TheHighChildsoulrider: It's eye candy for KDE. I don't know of a terminal/konsoleplugin though12:55
fritschHawkwind: we could improve his freetime and let him do binary search in an unbalanced avl tree12:55
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TheHighChildsoulrider: Understand that it is not true transparency, it's emulated. Say, you have a desktop icon that is all covered up with a konsole on top. You will see your desktop icon through the konsole, despite the other windows between the konsole and the desktop12:56
soulrideri just founda  program that looks pretty useful, slurm12:56
soulriderbut its command line and i would like to kind of have it in my desktop allt he time12:57
soulriderohh12:57
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Kronozhttp://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php < 6.06 release notes is a broken link12:57
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gnomefreak6.08 try12:57
soulrider!karamba12:58
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org12:58
fritschsoulrider: sorry, there does not exist a konsole plugin for superkaramba12:58
soulriderok12:58
fritschsoulrider: but other useful eye candy stuff12:58
soulrideri guess knetlaod is enough12:58
fritschsoulrider: wanted to say "usefull" quoted12:58
fritschk12:59
gnomefreakook back to breaking stuff the mute will be removed when the 10 mins are up12:59
TheHighChildLOL too funny12:59
soulriderif i want to chaneg the KDE theme im gonna need karamba right?12:59
cpk2no01:00
fritschno01:00
soulrideruhm01:00
soulriderconfusuion... :/01:00
fritschsoulrider: this superkaramba stuff is just addon eye candy01:00
Dr_Williskaramba is just a 'widget' server/programs01:00
Dr_Willis:_01:00
Dr_Williskde is very themeable by itself.01:00
fritschsoulrider: you can change your theme in control center01:00
TheHighChildIt's an app that has plugins like dashboard on OSX, it's not a theme manager, just an plugin manager01:00
soulrideroh, cool01:00
cpk2soulrider: theme manager01:00
fritschgnomefreak: btw. 3.5.4 got fixed01:00
cpk2in system settings01:00
soulrideris appearance the same ?01:01
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fritschgnomefreak: just had to be rebuiled, raphink did this and fine ;-)01:01
the-ermI just got done installing Kubuntu.  Strange thing was, when I installed it, it didn't ask me to set the root password.01:01
the-ermJust add 1 user.01:01
the-ermSo ... what do you do about that?01:01
cpk2you use sudo01:01
fritsch!root01:01
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:01
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soulriderKDE is so customizable...01:02
DaSkreech!root01:02
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:02
the-ermso sudo passwd  to change the pasword?01:02
fritschthe-erm: no just use sudo for root operations01:03
fritschthe-erm: or sudo su01:03
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Lars_G!tuneimp01:03
ubotuI know nothing about tuneimp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:03
Lars_G!tunepimp01:03
ubotuI know nothing about tunepimp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:03
Lars_G!libtunepimp01:03
ubotuI know nothing about libtunepimp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:03
the-ermI like the idea of having a root@ next to my name.01:04
the-ermwhile I'm doing admin stuff.  and yes sudo does work.01:04
fritschthe-erm: sudo su after that: passwd01:04
fritschthe-erm: no login as root01:04
TheHighChildI use 'sudo -i'01:04
fritschthe-erm: now you have the root back ...01:05
Lars_Gor, like TheHighChild said sudo -i01:05
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Lars_Git's better for long admin sessions than to sudo every command01:05
TheHighChildCorrect me if I misstate but that puts you into a root interactive session01:05
cpk2!info tuneimp01:05
ubotuPackage tuneimp does not exist in dapper01:05
cpk2!info tunepimp01:05
ubotuPackage tunepimp does not exist in dapper01:05
Lars_Gand it eliminates some problems with ID on redirection01:06
Lars_G!info libtunepimp01:06
ubotuPackage libtunepimp does not exist in dapper01:06
Lars_Go.O01:06
TheHighChild  /msg ubotu <whatever> will reduce the spam in the channel01:06
Lars_Gyeah sorry01:06
Lars_GI'm actually checking the db01:06
Lars_GBtw the db seems to be in db3/db4 but it has 3 fields, I tough gdb could handle only a two field hash01:07
TheHighChildnot chided, just suggesting to some of the users like soulrider that are new so they don't get complaints from mods01:07
TheHighChildchiding*01:07
Lars_Gnod01:07
rr7210 minutes up?01:09
rr72lol01:09
rr72ty didnt see taht01:09
rr72is it bad for me compile wine 0.9.18 on breazy?01:10
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rr72anyone here to answer my one question? then ill try to install somin again01:11
soulrideruhm, i accidentally hid the toolbar in my console window, how cna i recover it? :P01:12
fritschsoulrider: ctrl m01:12
fritschsoulrider: try?01:12
fritschctrl alt m01:12
soulriderctl m didnt work01:13
soulriderk, let em try01:13
fritschthis works here01:13
soulriderah yes01:13
soulriderthanks!01:13
fritschnp01:13
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soulrideranother question :P01:13
rr72fritsch~ ;)01:13
dakohello01:13
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fritschsoulrider: just ask01:14
soulrideris thera  way to send the konsole abr thingy thats in my taskbar to the system tray?01:14
rr72system tray?01:14
soulrideryea01:14
fritschsoulrider: this one i did not get01:14
soulriderok01:14
soulrideryou see when you opena  konsole01:14
rr72u mean add special button?01:14
soulrideruhm no01:14
fritschsoulrider: just minimize and then there is an icon in systry?01:15
dakoI want to rip mp3's to an external harddrive, how do I set so that I can put them there?01:15
soulridermind if i take a screenshot adn show you what i mean ?01:15
soulrideri want the icon in sys tray but without minimizing01:15
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rr72fritsch~ is it ok for me to compile wine 0.9.18 on breazy since the rep i got was 0.9.17 and 0.9.18 is for dapper01:15
fritschdako: plugin, mount, if the filesystem is supported, just copy over01:15
fritschdako: ntfs should be problematic, i think01:15
fritschsoulrider: yes make one01:16
soulriderok01:16
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dakoI was getting an error that it could send to the directory that I have already on the harddrive01:16
dakono, not nfts it is fat3201:16
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fritschist it mounted read only?01:16
Lunar_Ravenheu guys, is kde 3.5.4 available for kubuntu yet?01:16
dakohow can I look at that?01:16
Lunar_Ravenhey*01:16
fritschLunar_Raven: wait till tomorrow morning01:16
Lunar_Ravenok01:17
Lunar_Raven:)01:17
fritschLunar_Raven: some fixes still being uploaded01:17
Lars_GLunar_Raven: It is but it has a bug01:17
fritschLunar_Raven: just look at the irc topic title her in01:17
Lunar_Ravenok cool, I shal' wait patiently01:17
rr72is it safe for me to compile wine 0.9.18 under breazy?01:17
Lunar_Ravenoh lol!01:17
Lunar_Ravensorry01:17
Lunar_RavenI feel dumb now01:17
fritschLunar_Raven: no problem01:17
Lars_Grr72: What do you mean safe?01:17
fritschLars_G: be careful with him (hiding)01:17
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Lars_Gfritsch: I'm strong willed01:18
rr72breezy repo is 0.9.17 but dappers is 0.9.1801:18
rr72latest wine version is 0.9.1801:18
rr72just wonderin why its not for breezy but for dapper01:18
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fritschsoulrider: everything okay?01:19
Lars_Grr72: Because breezy is an old distro, and for non-current only bugfixes are released. Even more, for current distros only bugfixes should be released.01:19
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Lars_Grr72: that means, no new versions, but mostly patches of what is there01:19
rr72so is it safe or no?01:20
Lars_Grr72: define safe.01:20
rr72breezy is old?01:20
soulrideryes sorry, was takign the screenshot01:20
bl3ssingcan anybody tell me why Adept is comming only read only mode, please?01:20
soulriderlet em uplaod it to imageshack01:20
Lars_Grr72: breezy is not the newest stable version, still ubuntu provides extended support for "old" versions in the form of patched security holes to prolong the lifetime of an existent install01:20
fritschsoulrider: okay01:21
rr72how "old" is it?01:21
Lars_Grr72: if your machine will explode? I'm inclined to say it will not.01:21
rr72no like will it screw up dependeneciers01:22
rr72ack01:22
rr72major miss spell01:22
rr72wtf an "r"!?01:22
Lars_Grr72: BreezyBadger (5.10; Released October 13, 2005)01:22
rr72i can't spell for crap01:22
Lars_Git depends, have you checked if wine has dependant packages?01:22
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Lars_Grr72: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases?highlight=%28releases%2901:23
fritschrr72: get the dapper source, dpkg-buildpackage, look for errors01:23
soulriderfritsch: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/512/ubuntu1vw8.png01:23
rr72AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH screw it im going to compile by hand01:23
soulrideri want to move fromt he arrow on the left to the one on the right01:23
cpk2cant you just upgrade from breezy to dapper now?01:23
soulriderand keep the window open01:23
rr72i thought dapper was unstable when i dl breezy01:23
Lars_Gcpk2: it's a long process but it's doable01:23
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Lars_Grr72: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases01:24
cpk2they probably have a wiki on it...01:24
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Lars_Gcpk2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases01:24
fritschsoulrider: the easyiest way is:01:24
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fritschclick on the left upper corner and choose: always on top01:25
fritschah, but i think, i know what you have in mind01:25
soulrideri wanna keep it allways below01:25
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soulrideri wanna move the bar thingy01:25
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fritschsoulrider: than choose always below01:25
fritschsoulrider: have to look again01:25
Lars_Galways bellow means other windows will cover it even if it has focus01:26
fritschsoulrider: okay, no i dont know a way01:26
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fritschdont know a way to get it in dock01:26
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soulrideroh ok01:27
kamikazehola01:27
soulriderhola01:27
kamikazealguien?01:27
kamikazea sip01:27
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kamikazeeste canal es de kubuntu?01:27
DaSkreechbl3ssing: Fixed?01:28
fritschrr72: why do you ask for dependencies, if you build by hand01:28
rr72the other guy answered my question01:28
fritschrr72: ah make install can breake many things and breaks package management01:28
DaSkreech!es01:28
rr72breezy is "old"01:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:28
fritschrr72tring to backport dapper package is the way to go01:28
DaSkreechUnless that's Portugese01:29
kamikazeok, sorry rr7201:29
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rr72what?01:29
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kamikazei don  know01:29
Lars_GDaSkreech: Nein, it's spanish01:30
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DaSkreechThat's what I thought sometimes I get sleepy though01:30
en1gmahi all01:30
DaSkreechHello kamikaze01:30
en1gmai made it back from driving all day01:30
en1gmaanyone remember my Q i had earlier today01:31
en1gmaanyone awake?01:32
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soulrider!wine01:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:32
gekko`en1gma: if you have a question, you should ask it01:32
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en1gmai think you right01:33
en1gma:)01:33
en1gmaok here goes it01:33
Lars_G*drumroll*01:33
en1gma:P01:33
soulriderwhat was hte name of the not free program like wine ?01:34
kamikazesomeone can hear sound on portable AMILO ?01:34
rr72crossover?01:34
Lars_Grr72: "Like wine" crossover: http://www.codeweavers.com01:34
Lars_Gerr that was for soulrider01:34
soulriderwas it like01:34
soulriderces something ?01:34
Dr_Williscedega01:34
Lars_Gsoulrider: cedega is oriented to game playing01:35
en1gmai dloaded kubunto 64bit general 2.6.15-23 i think the kernel is. anyhow i am strictly using it as a live dvd (not touching my raid0 system ;)) ok 2.6.15-23 has a broken module that i need loaded to get my wifi to work on this computer. it is fixed in a later kernel...i dont know if 2.6.15-25 has it fixed but i do know it is fixed later on01:35
Lars_Gsoulrider: crossover to office tools01:35
soulrideryes, that!01:35
soulriderthanks! ^^01:35
en1gmawhat i want to do is substitute a newer kernel for that kernel on the dvd somehow01:35
pihl`gah, when I resized my partition I of course set windows to 30 gb and kubuntu to 65 when it was supposed to be the other way around. Great.01:35
en1gmalol01:35
rr72how do i uninstall? make uninstall?01:35
en1gmapartition magic can resize on the fly01:35
DaSkreechif you made from source yes01:36
en1gmajust resize it01:36
pihl`yeah, I'm going to install it now :)01:36
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en1gmait will move fat, ntfs, ext2 ext301:36
rr72DaSkreech~ ty and what does make clean do?01:36
en1gmaetc...01:36
Lars_Grr72: deletes the compiled objects and libs in the compiling directory01:36
en1gmamake clean is like a make default01:36
en1gmait restores it the way it was originally01:36
Lars_Grr72: so when you run make again all files are recompiled. not only these that have changed01:36
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en1gmaLars_G is more correct...i was just be general01:37
Lars_Gen1gma: make default is more radical and can alter autoconf files, afaik01:37
en1gmayea i was just being general01:37
Lars_GI was beign a corporal01:37
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en1gmanot general but simplifying01:38
en1gma:)01:38
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en1gma:P01:38
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soulriderghwo can i uninstalla  program i installed with adept, and remove everythign that program created too?01:38
soulriderleave no traces of it01:38
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soulriderhow can i uninstall a *01:38
DaSkreechsoulrider: Depends on the program01:38
soulriderwine :P01:39
DaSkreechsoulrider: Have you tried a purge?01:39
soulrideri insatlled somethign with wne, but i cant uninstall it01:39
soulriderpurge ?01:39
Lars_Gsoulrider: "sudo dpkg -P wine"01:39
en1gmaok guys i dont want to dload the daper amd64bit dvd kubuntu that has the 2.6.15-25 kernel i just want to change it out (or i would really like to change out with a 2.6.17 but if it can only be done with a 2.6.15-25 amd 64bit corpral than ill do it with that01:39
Lars_Gsoulrider: It will delete config files and dirs too01:39
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soulridersweet01:39
soulriderthanks01:39
soulrideri need tos atrt writing all these tips down01:39
Lars_Gbe carefull with it, if you purge your kernel it'll be fun01:40
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Lars_Gsoulrider: Get basket it's a wonderfull notes app01:40
DaSkreechen1gma: See the problem with that is that a kernel kicks in on reboot01:40
soulrideraight01:40
en1gmaim gonna have to remaster a dvd i think01:40
DaSkreechLars_G: I was looking at that. Whats that about?01:40
en1gmai have alot of dvds to play with01:40
en1gma:)01:40
soulridercool01:42
soulrideri still gotta try k9copy01:42
en1gmaor what would really be nice is.....to use this kubuntu 2.6.15-23 amd64 bit general.....and add the newer kernel and tell kubuntu to use that one instead01:42
en1gmaare kubuntus kernels done like debians? precompiled already so you can just install it01:42
Lars_GDaSkreech: It's a hierarchiral note takign system01:42
Lars_GDaSkreech: Newest beta integrates with kontact too01:42
en1gmaor replace it like you can dload it with apt-get01:42
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DaSkreechWhats this about a clipboard as well?01:42
DaSkreechen1gma: Yes01:43
en1gmaso what would be the best way to use a newer kernel with this kubuntu dvd and then save it or do i remaster it01:43
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en1gmahow would i go about doing this the easiest way01:43
rOOben1gma, if u are wanting to know if u can use diff kernels...yes u can01:43
en1gmaand save to dvd...remember i not using my hard drives at all01:44
rOOben1gma, use apt-get01:44
en1gmajust a live dvd01:44
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en1gmaapt-get will dload it and install it (is that when i remaster it? before reboot01:44
rOOboh en1gma well if u are on a linve dvd im not sure how u can.....why even do it on a live dvd?01:44
rodrigo_hello all of you!01:44
Lars_GDaSkreech: I've not played with the clipboard but I think it's to paste/copy several stuff from clip01:44
rodrigo_hello enigma!01:45
en1gmathe reason i need to get a newer kernel is cause in 2.6.15-23 my wifi nic dont work01:45
en1gmaits broken01:45
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en1gmait is fixed in newer kernels01:45
Lars_Gen1gma: it should be doable afaik01:45
DaSkreechLars_G: So It's an effective replacement of Knotes?01:45
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Lars_GDaSkreech: In theory, it is.01:45
DaSkreechLars_G: So you have never used it?01:45
en1gmais there a tool in kubuntu that remasters01:45
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rodrigo_I am new here......Somebody can explain me?01:46
Lars_GDaSkreech: For me, it works alongside. flat notes in knotes synced with my clie (palm), hierarchiral notes in basket and I'll have to write my own conduit when I find a free hierarchiral program for the palm I like01:46
en1gmaor is there a cfg file or switch or cheat to tell it to load that kernel upon boot01:46
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rOOben1gma, umm well u will probly need to make your own live dvd....ive nevr done this so i dont know01:47
rOOben1gma, why cant u install to hdd?01:47
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en1gmai wonder if i do it in windows or if i can do it from a livedvd os01:47
en1gmalike when im booted up in kububu01:47
en1gmai have 4*250 sata in a raid001:48
en1gmai dont want to touch it01:48
rOOben1gma, what kinda filesytem are u using?01:48
en1gma:)01:48
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en1gmantfs but im in raid001:48
en1gmai have alot of info on my system01:48
rOOben1gma, well uu arnt gonna be able to do it in linux01:48
rOOben1gma, then w/e u do DO NOT WRITE TO THE HDD01:48
DaSkreechen1gma: You could pick up a spare hard drive01:49
Lars_Gen1gma: ntfs 4, 5 or 5.1?01:49
DaSkreechaseigo: Hi01:49
en1gmawell if i can use isobuster to rename the newer kernel to the same as the old would that work01:49
Lars_GrOOb: he can, with a commercial driver01:49
rOOben1gma, linux doesnt have good ntfs support...if u write to the disk it can andprobly will corrupt alot of stuff01:49
en1gmaim not sure how it works on livedvds but there is a couple files that have to go into /boot01:49
DaSkreechWhy doesn't mplayer recognize .au on the command line?01:49
rOObLars_G, even then man...i dont tell ppl to01:49
Lars_Gen1gma: what version of ntfs btw?01:49
Lars_GrOOb: the makers assure it's safe01:49
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rodrigo_hello sombody can help me?01:50
rOObLars_G, hehe im still not gonna try it...or tell ppl to tr it01:50
rOObrodrigo_, we arnt mind readers...stat eyour problem01:50
rOOb*state01:50
Lars_Grodrigo_: no, sorry, we can't you haven't asked anything01:50
soulriderim trying to convince my friend to install kubuntu, he sais he wont unless he can play age of empires 2 :P01:50
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Lars_Gsoulrider: buy him cedega01:51
rOObsoulrider, yea tell him to use cedega01:51
rodrigo_why.......we cant talk anything?....01:51
Lars_Gsoulrider: Give me a second01:51
Lars_Grodrigo_: ASK01:51
soulriderim trying to get him a torrent: P01:51
Lars_Gsoulrider: I can't condone it.01:51
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soulriderrodrigo_:  que encesitas?01:51
visik7soulrider: check cedega database01:51
rOObsoulrider, http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=312601:52
DaSkreechActually I thnk that Wine can do AGOE2 now01:52
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DaSkreechAOE01:52
rOObcedgea has 3 starts for it01:52
en1gmagod dang hotel wifi crap01:52
en1gmawhat did i miss01:52
Lars_GrOOb: http://www.ntfs-linux.com/01:52
mossmanWine can do it. AOE01:52
en1gmasomething about ntfs version01:52
DaSkreechAOE2?01:52
soulriderapparently AOE wont work 1005 well in wine01:52
Lars_G3 stars is not good01:52
soulrideryea01:52
soulriderAOE 201:52
rodrigo_Bueno en castellano.....Alguien usa Postfix?01:52
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soulrideryo no01:52
Lars_Grodrigo_: I do.01:53
soulriderhay un canal de IRC en espaol01:53
bl3ssinggekko`, can you resend the last lines you typed, please?01:53
soulriderquizas quieras ir ahi01:53
Lars_G!es01:53
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:53
rOObLars_G, yea ive heard of that...and ive heard bad things....i wouldnt trust it on my partions....not that i have any ntfs around01:53
DaSkreech!jp01:53
ubotuI know nothing about jp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:53
soulridereso mismo ubotu01:53
Lars_GrOOb: thanks for the feedback01:53
rodrigo_bueno....el que si....quisiera si han configurado el archivo named.conf01:53
rOObLars_G, np?01:53
Lars_GDaSkreech: baka ;)01:53
Lars_GDaSkreech: please don't be offended :)01:54
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soulriderrodrigo_:  #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es01:54
rodrigo_soulrider: eres argentino?01:54
soulriderno01:54
soulriderpor? :-/01:54
kamikaze_jhola01:55
Lars_GEs un Argentino Light01:55
gekko`bl3ssing: check ps ax | grep dcopserver01:55
DaSkreechOK can I run kaffiene from the cli without a gui?01:55
rodrigo_porque veo que hablan muy rapido y me gustaria fijar algun contacto.....tengo preguntas algo interesantes01:55
soulridermy friend is asking whats hte difference between ubuntu adn kubuntu01:55
gekko`bl3ssing: and kill any session of adept, if there's any01:55
soulriderno, no soy argentino01:55
rOObsoulrider, kubuntu uses kde as default01:55
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Lars_Gsoulrider: se dice que los Uruguayos son argentinos light01:55
rOObsoulrider, where ubuntu used gnome01:55
soulriderpor dios, no01:55
zengwolaaaaaaaaaaa01:55
kamikaze_jxD01:55
KonstableWhen I use "Execute shell command" from Konqueror, and if I use a sudo command, the dialog that pops up prompts me for password but won't let me enter it.  Is there a way around this?01:55
soulriderahh01:55
zenghay algun espaol?????????''01:55
soulriderthanks rOOb01:56
rodrigo_si..por?01:56
zengolaaaaaaa01:56
rOObsoulrider, np man01:56
zengxD01:56
Lars_GDaSkreech: Afaik the only good video player with cli interface is VLC, but you won't be able to SEE video unless you use svgalib or aalib01:56
zengnse01:56
Lars_G!es01:56
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:56
bl3ssinggekko`, ps ax | grep dcopserver01:56
DaSkreechKonstable: Use kdesu01:56
bl3ssing 6894 ?        S      0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit]  --nosid01:56
bl3ssing 7096 pts/4    R+     0:00 grep dcopserver01:56
Lars_GThis channel is english centric.01:56
DaSkreechLars_G: It's not video01:56
Lars_Gsoulrider helped rodrigo_ in spanish as a favor01:56
zengjubuntu mejor.,.01:56
rodrigo_this channel is world centric01:56
zengasias dewwwwwwww01:56
KonstableDaSkreech thanks01:56
DaSkreechKonstable: Sure01:56
Lars_GDaSkreech: audio? streams? I'd personally use mplayer01:56
rodrigo_who are you Lars_G in this channel?01:57
gekko`bl3ssing: I end up with my knowledge then01:57
Lars_Grodrigo_: I am no OP if that's what you're asking. Still beign beligerant with me will archieve nothing01:57
soulriderrodrigo_:  ------------------->    #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-e01:58
kamikaze_jjajajaj01:58
soulriderah te van a poder ayudar mejor01:58
DaSkreechLars_G: It's not recognizing the files01:58
Lars_Grodrigo_: soulrider spoke to you in spanish as a courtesy because you refused to go to the spanish speaking channels you were pointed to, this does not means people will start screaming in spanish all around in here and asking for people from their same country like zeng did, I am no OP to enforce it, but I can for SURE ask for cooperation. My statement wasn't even directed to you in personal.01:59
DaSkreechLars_G: It plays them it just doesn't recognize them01:59
kamikaze_jxD01:59
Lars_GDaSkreech: Hmmm odd.... you could try VLC, it does has a cli interface.01:59
soulrideri love VLC01:59
rodrigo_thank you Lars_G......Im looking for a chat where I could talk about Linux, more about Kubuntu01:59
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kamikaze_jspanish power!!!01:59
DaSkreechLars_G: Why? Mplayer plays them so does Kaffeine01:59
DaSkreechWelsh Power!!01:59
Lars_Gsoulrider: Me too! it's one of the best players out there, even if it's plugin for firefox is saddly deficient compared to mplayer's01:59
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Lars_GDaSkreech: You said they were not recognized.02:00
DaSkreechLars_G: They play but they are not recognized02:00
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Lars_GDaSkreech: Btw kaffeine is just a GUI, it could be using a mplayer, gstreamer, xine or other engine for playback02:00
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DaSkreechLars_G: Want me to explain? :)02:00
Lars_GDaSkreech: what do you mean "not recognized"02:00
Lars_Gyes, please02:00
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rr72if remove --purge and then compile by hand wine will i lose all my applications?02:01
DaSkreechLars_G: From the command line mplayer <path/to/fi<tab>> doesn't complete02:01
Lars_Grr72: It shouldn't touch your ~/.wine but I can't guarantee it02:01
en1gmaok im back i was talking to my cousin02:01
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DaSkreechsince as far as bash is concerned mplayer has no bubsiness knowing about the file02:01
en1gmaok what dio di miss again02:01
Lars_GDaSkreech: that's a hiccup with BASH's new autocompletion system02:01
Lars_GDaSkreech: Try tcsh or zsh for a while ;)02:02
rodrigo_Lars_G......can you give me information about another channel knowed for my objetive?02:02
Lars_Grodrigo_: #ubuntu-es02:02
DaSkreechYup yup but right click (which krashes my Kubuntu btw I need to fix that) on the file shows kafeinie and amarok02:02
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Lars_Grodrigo_: debe tener mas gente que #kubuntu-es y postfix ata?e a cualquier ubuntu02:02
en1gmaok if anyone can help me get a newer kernel on my livedvd without using my HD unless its in windows i would appreciate it02:02
soulriderLars_G: i hate firefox, Opera FTW :P02:03
Lars_Gsoulrider: I love both. I am currently using firefox for a few extensions I love02:03
rodrigo_ok Lars_G....thank you for your help.02:03
soulrideris there any program to remove CSS? CSS as in DVD encryption02:03
Lars_Gen1gma: That's goint to be a LOAD of fun, if possible at all02:03
en1gmacrap02:04
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en1gmawho is the livedvd expert here :)02:04
DaSkreechLars_G: Wait where are the filetype associations again?02:04
Lars_Gsoulrider: if you install decss you will be able to watch encrypted DVDs, it's impossible to remove it FROM the disc, but I am sure many rippers can remove it02:04
Lars_GDaSkreech: Good question, I am not sure, I should check it out02:05
soulrideryea, thast what i meant02:05
soulridersomethign like anyDVD02:05
Lars_GDaSkreech: the new autocomplete is driving me mad02:05
soulridercan i get it fromt he repositories?02:05
DaSkreechLars_G: Found em :)02:05
Lars_Gsoulrider: Sorry never done it :(02:05
DaSkreechLars_G: I love it02:05
Lars_GDaSkreech: where's it?02:05
DaSkreechKonqui -> Tools -> Config Konqi -> File associations02:05
Lars_Go.O02:06
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Lars_Gdoes that affect bash's autocompletion?02:06
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bioticproIs there a way to make konq identify as a custom browser version, unstead of just the ones in the pulldown02:06
DaSkreechLars_G: It better :)02:06
Lars_GDaSkreech: Meaning "no"02:06
Lars_G:)02:06
bl3ssinggekko`, put your mind in control again ... cause I love the way it is working. :) Thank you man ... I'll try to find something else ... maybe I'll be lucky and I'll find it by myself (just the way Christopher Coloumb found the America (that's why I'm residing on it ... right? :D)02:06
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Lars_GOk I'm going I need to rest my brain02:07
Lars_Gbe well all02:07
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rodrigo_Lars_G Do you know something about LinuxBox?02:07
DaSkreechLars_G: Later02:08
Lars_Grodrigo_: No :( I don't even know what it is02:08
rOObhello all can someone uses ubuntu use the kubuntu kde source...the brand new one?02:08
rOOb!kde02:08
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE02:08
rodrigo_Lars_G: the problem is that in the chat you give me nobody knows about LinuxBox. Nobody here knows about that?...I cant polive it!02:09
gekko`bl3ssing: as a last solution I would suggest to restart your system, but it's not the way of solution I like :P02:09
en1gmaanyone familiar with DSL02:09
soulrideri think i convinced my friend to install kubuntu, at least downlaod it :D02:09
Lars_Grodrigo_: what is LinuxBox??02:09
soulrideren1gma: im using aDSL02:09
DaSkreechrodrigo_: Is that a Distro?02:09
bl3ssinggekko`, neither do I! We're engineers, right? :D02:10
en1gmadoes kubuntu have a feature like DSL where you can save your config to dvd and have it auto loaded upon reboot. or save the apps you get and also have those loaded upon reboot02:10
gekko`bl3ssing: well, at least trying to be ;)02:10
soulrideruhm02:10
rodrigo_Its a hardware with a linux embedded02:10
soulrideri use ppoconfig to set a connection up02:10
soulriderand pon to connect02:10
soulrideri cant really follow your question, sory02:10
soulridersorry*02:10
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bl3ssinggekko`, I'll do it than. see us ... later (in some minutes). I'll be back, so ... don't think you'll get ride of me that fast. :D02:11
gekko`ok :)02:11
rodrigo_im doing a proyect for an protocol sniffer with that02:11
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bl3ssinghello everyone.02:14
bl3ssinggekko`, no changes. The same.02:15
bl3ssing:(02:15
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gekko`bl3ssing: does apt-get work?02:15
DaSkreechrodrigo_: Whats the project?02:15
CVirushow can I make my System tray group the icons in two horizontal rows not one ?02:17
rodrigo_DaSkreech: its about a sniffer that captures paquet!02:17
DaSkreechCVirus: I think I have this one02:17
DaSkreechrodrigo_: Where is your problem?02:18
CVirusDaSkreech: I had it by default with gentoo's KDE ... cant do it with Kubuntu02:18
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DaSkreechCVirus: It's the new KDE02:18
rodrigo_I would like to know if somebody  have worked with embbedded sistems?02:18
DaSkreechCVirus: Edit the Panel and set the size to custom and 48 pixles02:19
bl3ssingwhat is this apt-get? I didn't do anything when the computer was restarted again. I've just opened the Adept and ... the same.02:19
bl3ssinggekko`, what is this apt-get? I didn't do anything when the computer was restarted again. I've just opened the Adept and ... the same.02:19
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CVirusDaSkreech: Thanks alot02:20
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DaSkreechCVirus: Worked?02:20
CVirusDaSkreech: yeah .. Thanks02:20
gekko`bl3ssing: try "apt-get update"02:20
gekko`sudo02:20
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the-erm-2ok another crazy su question.02:22
the-erm-2I have managed to change the password using sudo passwd02:22
the-erm-2good thing for me, then I logged in using su.02:23
DaSkreechthe-erm-2: "the" password?02:23
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the-erm-2it didn't pass $DISPLAY quite right, so anyone know how to get the X session passed when you do an su?02:23
draikAnybody know how to deal with a BREAK upgrade?02:23
rodrigo_DaSkreech: whats the problem02:23
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the-erm-2er .. never mind su -p works.02:24
draikI can't install an upgrade because it will cause a BREAK. I just want to get rid of Adept Updater from my systray02:24
DaSkreechrodrigo_: Well if you had a more general question not specific to the LinuxBox then ask that. Someone might be able to help02:24
DaSkreechdraik: Which app?02:24
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TheHighChildDoes anyone use Knode?02:25
en1gmadoes kububtu have a 64bit cd (not the dvd)02:25
draikDaSkreech, you mean the upgrade?02:25
bl3ssinggekko`, i got to sudo dpkg --configure -a .... :) (since it asked me about dpkg .. and than, I'll try sudo apt-get update. :) hope it will works.02:25
DaSkreechSi02:25
dako_I want to rip mp3's with KAudioCreater, but I get this error when the rip is done "Cannot place file, unable to make directories."02:25
draiklibtotem-plparser102:25
rodrigo_whats about strongArm ?02:26
TheHighChilden1gma: yes02:26
rodrigo_somebody know aboout StrongArm?02:26
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rodrigo_somebody know about somtething of Linux?02:27
rr72yeah02:27
rr72bad to do rm -fr /02:28
chosebine:-)02:28
gekko`rr72: you shouldnt joke with that command02:28
DaSkreechdraik: where are you getting it from?02:28
TheHighChildInsufficient permissions to perform that command02:28
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rr72gekko`~ that has been given to me so many times02:29
TheHighChildbetter try with sudo02:29
en1gmamirc i hate IT02:29
rr72by jerks who hate me02:29
chosebineI would like to know how many people made the mistake of writing it02:29
en1gmasomeone said something to me but i got disconnected02:29
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TheHighChilden1gma: yes, there is a 64 desktop cd02:29
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draikDaSkreech, from Adept Updater02:29
gekko`rr72: very evil from them02:29
en1gmaah yea thats what i was wanting to know...;i see 2 version of the 64bit..1 is alternate and other is desktop02:29
DaSkreech:-) have you added any custom repositories?02:30
rodrigo_rr72: can I make you a question?02:30
TheHighChilden1gma: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso02:30
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rr72huh? u mean ask me?02:30
rr72im waiting for compilation to be done02:30
en1gmai found the ftp but i see an alternate and a desktop02:30
gekko`lol02:30
rr72ack its boring02:30
BluesKajI'm trying to install OpenOffice , but i have broken pkges that can't seem to be fixed , anyone interested in helping ...check this out ;  http://pastebin.ca/11253502:30
rr72rodrigo_~ what u need?02:30
TheHighChilden1gma: alternate is for a server installation, desktop is for normal installs and is also a live cd02:31
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bl3ssinggekko`, Done! now?02:31
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bl3ssing:)02:31
en1gmaanyone know what kernel comes with 6.0602:31
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en1gmai need the version that has the latest kernel02:31
dako_can anyone help me?02:31
en1gmai dont care if its -current or beta or whatever02:31
rr72dako_~ just ask02:31
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crimsunen1gma: 2.6.15-26.45.02:31
rr72if someone knows the anwser they will help u02:31
BluesKajask away dako , maybe someone can help02:32
gekko`bl3ssing: run "kdesu adept" and hope it works02:32
rodrigo_rr72: do you know about "packet filter" ?02:32
intelikeyen1gma 2.6.1502:32
dako_I want to rip mp3's with KAudioCreater, but I get this error when the rip is done "Cannot place file, unable to make directories."02:32
rr72rodrigo_~ i know about magic packets but not packet filters02:32
en1gmai really need to get into the 2.6.16 to feel good about my module not being broken02:32
en1gmaany version (64bit amd/general) come with a 2.6.16 kernel02:32
TheHighChilden1gma: why not upgrade after installation?02:33
rodrigo_rr72: magic packet is for PXE, but packet filter is a library for capture packets necesary for libpcap...Do you kno about that?02:33
en1gmaim using a livedvd02:33
chosebinewhen you upgrade some package (with apt-get upgade) , is there a way to know the changes between the pakage's version ex: security fixes, normal update etc...?02:33
en1gmaor livecd02:33
en1gmai have 4*250 sata raid0 i dont want to mess with that02:33
rr72rodrigo_~ why are u quizing me if u know the answers?02:33
draikDaSkreech, not really. I added multiverse, that's all02:33
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TheHighChilden1gma: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will get you the latest kernel, just won't work after you reboot02:34
DaSkreechdraik: Strange.02:34
gekko`chosebine: check /usr/share/doc/<application> there should be a changelog02:34
rr72en1gma~ i came to kubuntu cause debian couldnt handle my sata card02:34
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DaSkreechdraik: What uses libtotem?02:34
rr72rodrigo_~ oh and now02:34
chosebinegekko:thanks02:34
DaSkreechYou have totem installed?02:34
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rr72rodrigo_~ where is this going?02:34
draikDaSkreech, I don't recall installing totem02:34
feroshello02:34
en1gmaTheHighChild can i remaster a dvd from the linuxdvd iso02:34
en1gmabefore reboot02:34
DaSkreech>-<02:34
draikI think it was installed when I installed QDVDAuthor02:34
rodrigo_rr72: Im looking for somebody who know about the library libpcap....its for my proyect02:35
feroshow do i switch to EFnet?? i have just installed kubuntu:p02:35
en1gmasata i would be ok with but im in raid002:35
rr72rodrigo_~ can't help sorry02:35
draikDaSkreech, Nope, totem not installed02:35
DaSkreechferos: /server irc.efnet.com I think02:35
intelikeyferos /server irc.efnet.net02:35
rr72lol02:35
DaSkreechdraik: Then I guess it's safe to ignore. Give me a second02:35
draikk02:36
TheHighChilden1gma: You can do anything you would on a normal installation, just all of the packages you install and kernels you upgrade won't be there once you reboot. As for remastering DVD's, not sure what's involved with that bro, sorry02:36
rr72/operserc set superadmin on02:36
DaSkreechrodrigo_: have you checked the website for that library?02:36
en1gmaTheHighChild i need someone to save the stuff to cd/dvd before i reboot so i dont have to dload everything all over again02:37
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en1gmasomeone = someway02:37
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DaSkreechen1gma: You don't have two CD Drives?02:37
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rodrigo_DaSkreech: yes, i had compiled it for my architecture, but something is wrong in the patching level!02:37
en1gmai wish02:37
en1gmai have 2gig o ram02:37
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en1gmacan i put one iso in my ram02:37
en1gmato manipulate02:37
en1gmaidk im just guessing02:38
TheHighChilden1gma: k3b is a standard burning app that does DVD's. It's in the default install on cd02:38
intelikeyif ram is big enough02:38
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en1gmayea but the dvd is mounted i cant take it out to put another dvd in can i02:38
en1gmaor should i dload the cd and boot toram cheat02:38
intelikeynot easily02:39
en1gmaand put new cd in02:39
en1gmaand do it that way02:39
bl3ssinggekko`, trying to start Adept now. Hope's working. :d02:39
TheHighChilden1gma: load the livecd to ram02:39
cow_2001when i don't touch the touchpad gifs in konqueror are showed in a very low framerate02:39
rodrigo_rr72: so do you know something about something? Im looking for help, im not quizing you. Respet that02:39
puttzhello02:39
rr72sorry i thought u were quizing me02:39
cow_2001when i move the cursor around the gif acts normally02:39
intelikeyen1gma yeah if you can put an iso in ram and then boot that iso....   i don't think linux will play nicely there tho.02:40
cow_2001anyone got a clue to what's happening?02:40
rr72i know stuff abuot WoW and Guns and Airplanes and Boats02:40
puttzis it some one here who use steam in wine??02:40
en1gmayea sounds like trouble02:40
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visik7puttz: steam works great in cedega02:40
en1gmaok i might be taking this to far....it might be fixed in 2.6.15.-25 but i seriously doubt it when it dont work in 2.6.15-2302:40
puttzok02:41
BluesKajbad for the wine02:41
visik7puttz: and you can compile cedega by yourself02:41
en1gmawhere is changelog for amd64bit genral 2.6.15-25 located02:41
puttzhmm but it i want a program for free :/02:41
en1gmaill go read and see if it was fixed02:41
en1gmamaybe my module was fixed in it but i doubt it02:41
puttzi want a program for free..02:41
DaSkreechputtz: You can compile cedega for free02:42
BluesKajI'll try again, I'm trying to install OpenOffice , but i have broken pkges that can't seem to be fixed , anyone interested in helping ...check this out ;  http://pastebin.ca/11253502:42
en1gmaputtz www.google.com "program free"02:42
cow_2001guess not02:42
en1gma:)02:42
puttzok tanks02:42
en1gmalol02:42
chosebineen1gma: good joke02:42
puttzsry my english sux :P02:42
en1gmaabout 10,000,000 hits at least02:42
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TheHighChildI was about to throw that one at en1ma for the changelog Q. lol02:42
en1gmawhen you put "free" in google its a disaster02:43
chosebineen1gma: yeah and none of it will be revelent02:43
puttzuhmm .. ok02:43
en1gmaexactly02:43
en1gma:)02:43
en1gmaok i googling the changelog brb02:43
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gekko`BluesKaj: did you try re-installing the package?02:43
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intelikeywell they fixed something in xorg in the last update and it don't work right no mo02:44
BluesKajyes gekko02:44
chosebinegoogle seems to have lost the battle of the revelent result02:44
bl3ssingwhat means this code: ps ax | grep adept02:44
bl3ssing20821 pts/3    R+     0:00 grep adept02:44
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bl3ssingI want to open Adept, and it comes in Read only mode. I want to install/uninstall things. :D02:44
gekko`bl3ssing: it tells you that you just ran 'grep adept'02:44
intelikeybl3ssing means adept is not running02:44
TheHighChildbl3ssing: What you are seeing is the command process you just typed.02:45
pihl`how do you automatically connect to a wireless network with wireless assistant? It doesn't start when I boot02:45
BluesKajthe pastebin text is a copy of the text in the synaptic dialog box after attempting an install02:45
intelikeybl3ssing the updator is prolly running.02:45
gekko`BluesKaj: I don't see the command there02:45
BluesKajcmd?02:46
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gekko`yes02:46
intelikeyautomatic updating do get in the way of normal install/remove of packages   yessir02:46
BluesKajwas using synaptic02:46
bl3ssingbut i don't have it the adept .......02:46
bl3ssing:(02:46
rodrigo_pihl`: you should see etc/messages02:46
puttzuhmm ..02:47
pihl`okey02:47
bl3ssingI press: kdesu adept, and it comes nothing ... waiting and waiting and waiting ...02:47
intelikeyetc/messages ?02:47
en1gmagonna reboot brb02:47
chosebinebl3ssing: kill it and retry02:47
puttzi need a program for free so i can use steam .. some one who know a program ?? (my english sux)02:48
gekko`BluesKaj: try apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org02:48
chosebineputtz:good luck! (my advice: dual boot in windows...)02:48
gekko`bl3ssing: use apt-get install --reinstall adept02:49
DaSkreechputtz: You can install cedega02:49
gekko`or remove --purge adept02:49
puttzchosebine : my english sux but i thin you meen that i will use both windows and linux ?????02:49
pihl`rodrigo_, where's etc/messages? :)02:49
rodrigo_pihl`: there in this archive you can see a log with information about what services are in the boot process. Then if wirelless assistan is not here you should append it.02:49
puttzcedega is nott free ...02:49
gekko`puttz: wine02:49
DaSkreechputtz: yes it is if you compile it yourself02:50
puttzwine dosnt work02:50
DaSkreechputtz: You can get the source code and build your own cedega02:50
chosebineputtz:not at the same time, you chose wich os you want to run at boot time02:50
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BluesKajgekko http://pastebin.ca/11254702:50
puttzhmm .. i want to lurn linux so i dont want xp .. :/02:51
chosebinebl3ssing: adept is already started but there is a bug preventing it from running, kill it whit the command pkill adept and retry to start it02:52
gekko`BluesKaj: what does 'apt-get check' tell you?02:52
BluesKajmy question is , how do i get rid of the broken pkgs or fix them  ?02:52
gekko`puttz: if you want to play games you should use windows02:52
DaSkreechOr learn to code and build games for Linux :)02:53
intelikeyBluesKaj sudo apt-get install -f02:53
bl3ssinggekko`, the solution comes from you! I told you your mind must work ... :D :) thanks man. chosebine, thank you for your help too.02:53
rodrigo_pihl`: In a console program (shell), you write "vi /etc/messages"02:53
intelikeyBluesKaj alternatively sudo apt-get remove -f02:53
gekko`bl3ssing: no problem, and how did it work now?02:53
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pihl`k02:53
puttzi want to play yes but nott so much .. i will lurn me linux for fun but i will play sometime :P02:53
BluesKajintelikey, what does that do?02:53
intelikeyrodrigo_ what will /etc/messages do ?02:54
DaSkreechputtz: Do what I do turn your computer into a game :)02:54
intelikeyBluesKaj fix broken packages.   that's what you said you wanted.02:54
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BluesKaj0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded02:54
BluesKajyes02:54
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intelikeyrodrigo_ ?02:55
bl3ssingit works, gekko`. :)02:55
bl3ssingpatiance means everything.02:55
bl3ssing:)02:55
gekko`bl3ssing: did you use apt-get install --reinstall?02:56
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bl3ssinggekko`, yeap.02:56
rodrigo_intelikey: There you can see if wireless and other services are up when the system boot02:57
puttzi cant english so i dont think i will be here :P02:57
gekko`BluesKaj: try apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za02:57
rodrigo_intelikey: do you understand?02:58
intelikeyrodrigo_ that's what i though you were after.   it is not /etc/messages  it is /var/log/messages   no ?02:58
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rodrigo_intel02:58
rodrigo_intelikey: ok........its that...02:58
intelikey:)02:58
rodrigo_im confuse with /etc/secure02:58
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intelikeynow point pihl` to the correct file02:59
rodrigo_intelikey: /etc/secure is a log for remote connections.......ok02:59
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intelikeyno logs are in /var/log    not /etc02:59
rodrigo_intelikey: yes, but is a log too.03:00
intelikeyunless you highly customize things it's not.03:00
BluesKajno luck ,gekko ..broken pkges are still blocking03:00
rr72is it good etiquite to make clean after u make install?03:00
intelikeyrr72  yes.  assuming it made properly and installed ok.   you should save the tarball in case you need to make uninstall03:01
rr72i never make uninstall03:01
rr72never new about it03:01
rr72wish i havce on so many occasions03:01
gekko`BluesKaj: apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org03:01
gekko`then install it again03:02
rodrigo_intelikey: yes.......there isnt the name of a log but a log have lines about some activity in your system03:02
rodrigo_intelikey: an secure works like that03:03
rodrigo_its active03:03
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BluesKajbummer gekko  still no luck. "Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed"03:03
gekko`oh03:04
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intelikeyrodrigo_ hmmm ok.    what writes /etc/secure  ?      i'd like to look into this.03:04
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BluesKajgekko, I think a repository caused this problem...I had to dump some cuz they were blocking synaptic and adept from downloading upgrades etc03:05
intelikeyBluesKaj what exactly are you trying to accomplish ?      if you don't mind my asking.03:06
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BluesKaji replaced the bad repos and I think these are blocking my attempts at installing openoffice03:06
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BluesKajremnants03:07
bobbyyuI have a problem with my floppy drive: it takes a long time or it keeps loading when it reads to a floppy disk03:07
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intelikey!pastebin      your /etc/sources.list   lets have a look03:07
ubotuI know nothing about pastebin      your /etc/sources.list   lets have a look - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:07
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rr72lol03:08
intelikey!pastebin03:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:08
rr72u can always compuile by hand03:08
intelikeyroll your own oo  ???   why would you ?03:09
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bobbyyuCan anyone help me?03:09
HawkwindWhy would you compile things on a deb based distro anyways ?03:09
DaSkreech!ask03:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:09
DaSkreechHawkwind: No Deb?03:09
BluesKajintelikey, I'm trying to install openoffice, but some remnabt broken dependies from a failed earlier attempt using bad repos has caused the this blockage ...at least that's what i think is going on .. :)03:09
bobbyyuI already asked it.03:09
HawkwindDaSkreech: I specifically meant OOo compiling :P03:09
gekko`Hawkwind: to enable/disable some functions03:09
HawkwindDaSkreech: Even then, build a deb :P03:09
gekko`ah03:10
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Hawkwindgekko`: Build a deb, and enable/disable the features that way :)03:10
gekko`I know03:10
DaSkreechHawkwind: I just built a deb for tmw03:10
HawkwindCompiling things can mess up a system when it comes to the package manager03:10
DaSkreechbobbyyu: Didn't see it03:10
intelikeyBluesKaj ok then run this and pastebin the error messages  if any.   sudo apt-get remove -f03:10
HawkwindDaSkreech: I just setup an E17 repo last night :)03:10
DaSkreechSchweet03:11
bobbyyuI have a problem with my floppy drive: it takes a long time or it keeps loading when it reads to a floppy disk03:11
DaSkreech Why don't you MOTU?03:11
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Or join #ebuntu :)03:11
HawkwindDaSkreech: I will eventually.  Still learning the build process since I just started using *Ubuntu a month ago after 4 1/2 years of building rpms03:11
rr72whats ebuntu?03:11
BluesKajintelikey, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded03:11
Hawkwindrr72: Ubuntu based on E1703:11
DaSkreechexactly what it sounds like03:11
rr72why wont 2 packs upgradr?03:12
intelikeythen there is nothing broken on your system BluesKaj03:12
rr72linux and linux-headers or somin liek taht03:12
CheeseBurgerMan!headers03:12
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages03:12
CheeseBurgerManMight help. ;)03:12
HawkwindDaSkreech: I have built the last 2 versions of Xchat when it came out and uploaded it to REVU.  Still learning though03:12
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bobbyyuAt least tell me if this problem is common among Kubuntu Dapper Drake03:12
DaSkreechbobbyyu: I don't know I haven't used a floppy since 199903:13
BluesKajintelikey, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded03:13
intelikeyBluesKaj run this and pastebin any errors it pukes out.   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org03:13
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bobbyyuYou use a USB key?03:13
HawkwindDaSkreech: You interested in trying the E17 debs at all ?03:13
BluesKajintelikey, check this out first, http://pastebin.ca/11254703:13
intelikeylooking.03:13
DaSkreechbobbyyu: Or even Cds03:14
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Yeah in a bit I'm trying to outsmart bash03:14
rr72The following packages have been kept back:03:14
rr72  linux-headers-386 linux-image-38603:14
intelikeybobbyyu no problem with floppies here.  but i manually mount/umount everything.03:14
HawkwindDaSkreech: When you're ready, http://SeerOfSouls.com/ is where they are.  Just click on the Deb Packages tab and all the info is there03:14
rr72after a upgrade03:14
bobbyyuHow do you manually mount?03:14
BluesKajintelikey, that's the same message03:14
Hawkwindbobbyyu: sudo mount /mnt/floppy   is one example03:15
rr72mount /legs ;)03:15
rr72fsck03:15
rr72fsck03:15
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intelikeyBluesKaj run this and pastebin any errors it pukes out.   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-core03:15
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intelikeyrr72 how dumb  you umount before an fsck    pfft03:16
intelikey:)03:16
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keith#opensync03:17
intelikeybobbyyu sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/fd0 /mnt -t vfat03:17
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BluesKajintelikey, http://pastebin.ca/11257003:18
intelikeylooking03:18
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rr72intelikey~ debby doesnt like taht tho03:19
intelikeyBluesKaj lets try removing the offending packages, shall we...  sudo apt-get remove  openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za03:19
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rikiohi followed the guidelines on java.sun.com for installing java on my machine and it installed in my home/username directory so inside i now have home/username/jre 1.5.0603:20
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rikiohbut it dont work in my web browser03:20
rikiohdo i need a plugin ?03:20
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gekko`intelikey: "03:00 < gekko`> BluesKaj: try apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za"03:20
gekko`^^03:20
Hawkwind!java > rikioh03:21
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BluesKajintelikey, gekko , ..http://pastebin.ca/11257803:29
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intelikeyBluesKaj sudo dpkg -P --force-all  openoffice.org-l10n-en-us03:31
acid-tripok right now i'm in unix would kubuntu be able to mount and read my ufs temporarily to give me time to get the data i want off of it?03:32
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soulriderhow can i view partitoons adn the free space?03:33
rikiohthe following packages have unmet dependencies: sun-java5-bin: depends: unixodbc but it is not installable E: Broken packages03:33
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soulrider!free space03:33
ubotuI know nothing about free space - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:33
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intelikeydf -h03:33
soulriderthanks03:33
intelikeyfdisk -l03:33
acid-triplol inte03:33
rikiohthe following packages have unmet dependencies: sun-java5-bin: depends: unixodbc but it is not installable E: Broken packages............. thats what it says when i try to use sudo apt-install sun-java5-bin03:34
intelikeyacid-trip ufs is in the mount 'known file systems'03:35
intelikeypatients is a vertue.03:35
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zappixHello.03:35
intelikeyrikioh enable your repos and install it.03:36
intelikeyunixodbc - ODBC tools libraries03:36
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zappixErm.... for some reason, when I attempt to run "make file"03:36
intelikey!info unixodbc03:36
ubotuunixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB03:36
zappixI get a "make: unknown command" error03:37
rikiohmultiverse and universe are enabled intelikey03:37
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intelikeyzappix sudo apt-get install build-essiental03:37
CheeseBurgerManzappix: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:37
CheeseBurgerManSorry, intelikey, but spelling mattesr. ;)03:37
intelikeyrikioh read ubotu ^03:37
CheeseBurgerManWow, that was ironic. matters*03:38
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BluesKajwell, it looked good at first intelikey, but it's still not working03:38
BluesKajhttp://pastebin.ca/11258703:38
zappixReading package lists... Done03:38
zappixBuilding dependency tree... Done03:38
zappixE: Couldn't find package build-essiental03:38
intelikeyi was a little earily wasn't it CheeseBurgerMan03:38
zappixThat supposed to happen? >>03:38
TheHighChildessential***03:38
CheeseBurgerManzappix: OK, have you run 'sudo apt-get update'?03:38
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zappixnope.03:39
CheeseBurgerManTry it. ;)03:39
zappixReading package lists... done03:39
zappixwoo03:39
TheHighChildzappix: It's essential, not essiental03:39
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zappixheh03:39
rikiohintelikey im following that guide after enabling mutiverse and universe it says to open konsole and type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin03:39
zappixThat makes sense =P03:39
rikiohwhen i do that i get an error tho03:40
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rikiohthat its not installable03:40
zappixE: Couldn't find package build-essential03:40
zappixSure it is build-essential?03:40
zappixo_O03:41
intelikeyrikioh that package is in "main"03:41
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intelikeyBluesKaj i don't see any problem with that pastebin   looks good to me.03:41
BluesKajok, I'll post the message i get from synaptic03:42
BluesKajI'm getting tired anyway03:42
zappixBy the looks of it, it did not work....03:43
zappixD:03:43
CheeseBurgerManzappix: Since you've added multiverse/universe, have you run 'sudo apt-get update'?03:43
zappixYes.03:44
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intelikeyBluesKaj you could wild card that thing   sudo dpkg -P --force-all `dpkg -l | grep openoffice | cut -d' ' -f3`         <---- if that don't fix it, it can't be fixed.    then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org03:44
TheHighChildapt-cache search build |grep essential03:44
TheHighChildsee if that turns up anything03:44
zappixMe?03:45
zappixNo messages were returned.03:45
CheeseBurgerManYes.03:45
intelikeyTheHighChild apt-cache  searches the database of 'installable' packages.   dpkg -l  displays the installed ones.03:46
TheHighChildintelikey: isn't he trying to install build-essential?03:46
intelikey!info build-essential03:46
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB03:46
intelikeyTheHighChild i hope so.03:47
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intelikey!repos03:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:47
intelikey!easysource03:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:47
intelikey!easyubuntu03:47
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.03:47
zappixOh03:48
zappixright03:48
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BluesKajE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.03:48
BluesKajE: Unable to correct dependencies03:48
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe03:48
intelikey          multiverse03:48
rikiohintelikey is there something i need to use the firefox java plugin because it says package break - ther was an error commiting changes. possible there was a problem download some packages or the commit would break packages03:48
zappix!info build-essential03:48
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB03:48
zappix!info: Event not found03:48
ubotuI know nothing about info: Event not found - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:48
rikiohit wont even let me download the package thru adept03:48
zappixAnd......Build-essential is used in replacment of "make?"03:48
rikiohit just says package break03:48
zappixThe problem is I have to run a Makefile but "make" is an unknown command D:03:49
CheeseBurgerManzappix: build-essential is a metapackage which installs make and other things that let you compile stuff. If I remember everything that it installed, I'd tell you. ;)03:49
TheHighChildzappix: make is a part of the build-essential package03:49
TheHighChilddamn that was fast03:49
zappixAh03:49
zappixok03:49
zappixGuessing I need to get it from somewhere?03:50
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TheHighChildzappix: make sure you added the repos to your sources.list, pastebin them if you don't mind03:50
zappix...eh?03:51
CheeseBurgerMan!pastebin03:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:52
rikiohi wouldnt care if i had java for konqueror or firefox but i cant find a java plugin for konqueror and the java plugin for mozilla firefox is a proken package that i cant download cuz it would cause a break03:52
lnxkdeDaSkreech, :D03:53
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lnxkdeDaSkreech, sup!?03:53
CheeseBurgerManrikioh: IF the one in the repos doesn't work, you could try download the one from java.com03:53
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pihl`does kubuntu come packaged with mozilla firefox or do I have to install it manually?03:53
CheeseBurgerManpihl`: It's packaged.03:53
rikiohmine wasnt cheese burger03:53
DaSkreechlnxkde: Dude Just thought of you03:53
pihl`how do I start it then? :P03:54
rikiohi just put firefox on today03:54
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kanapihl`: if it is installed type in a terminal firefox03:54
lnxkdeDaSkreech, ???03:54
CheeseBurgerManpihl`: Uh, K Menu > Internet > Firefox ?03:54
CheeseBurgerManOr what kana said.03:54
wckdkl0wn_is there a way to speed up the web browser? its slow as dirt in linux03:54
pihl`nope, nothing03:54
DaSkreechI just got like all the chinese music off of ibiblio and have been trying o kick bash to recognize the mime types :_03:54
TheHighChildrikioh: did you upgrade from another version of kubuntu?03:54
rikiohsearch for it in adept pihl03:54
DaSkreechlnxkde: So what's up03:54
BluesKajintelikey, could this openoffice blockage problem be a bad repository ?03:54
rikiohnope first install highchild03:55
kanapihl`: it need to be installed03:55
pihl`kk03:55
pihl`firefox then?03:55
pihl`or mozilla-firefox :P03:55
TheHighChildthe mozilla-firefox package is a dummy03:55
kanayap sudo apt-get install firefox03:55
TheHighChildjust get firefox03:55
CheeseBurgerManpihl`: 'sudo apt-get install firefox'03:55
pihl`there's so many to choose from :P03:55
CheeseBurgerManGrr, beaten. :)03:55
pihl`kk03:55
lnxkdeDaSkreech,  nothing much , just installed e1703:55
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lnxkdeis very nice03:56
lnxkdebut with some bad bugs....03:56
lnxkdeit is cvs...03:56
lnxkdebrb phone...03:56
dakoark cannot open zip files03:56
dakoany clues?03:56
TheHighChildwckdkl0wn_: a plugin called fasterfox is nice for tweaks and whatnot. Google "firefox hacks" or "firefox tweaks" and you'll get a bunch of tips03:56
pihl`thanks :)03:56
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CheeseBurgerManFasterfox isn't nice to servers.03:56
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CornelliusGot difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529.03:57
phoonazhey guys03:57
TheHighChilddako: you probably need to download the proprietary package to use zip03:57
BluesKajif yer running 64bit cpu , swiftfox werks too03:57
dakowhich one is that?03:57
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phoonazanyone had problems with the nvidia drivers?03:57
zappixSorry about that03:57
wckdkl0wn_TheHighChild: its the same with any browser i use03:57
zappixI beleive my power supply needs03:57
zappixto be replaced03:57
TheHighChildwckdkl0wn_: Perhaps your inet sucks?03:58
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zappixSo...er...the fan was making this weird noise and the computer just froze03:58
zappixanyways03:58
wckdkl0wn_TheHighChild: 6meg cable teir03:58
CheeseBurgerManzappix: Pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list03:58
CheeseBurgerManUnless you did, then I missed it, and should go check. ;)03:58
TheHighChildwckdkl0wn_: ping an IP and then a hostname, see if there is a big difference, if so, your DNS servers may not be optimal03:58
wckdkl0wn_TheHighChild: with windows it was way faster but with linux it takes like 2 minutes to load a page03:58
ErtainMy screensaver wasn't working.  After the KDE-libs update, it started to finally work.  Now I need to keep power saving on to trigger the screensaver.  Trouble is, the option is not saved; I have to reset it each time I log on.03:59
phoonazanyone got an nvidia card?03:59
mikomikoafter upgrade my sound is gone03:59
zappixI do03:59
soulriderphoonaz:  i do03:59
zappixI have a NVIDA VANTA03:59
TheHighChildphoonaz: yeah03:59
mikomikohow do i correct that03:59
soulrider!nvidia > phoonaz03:59
zappixI have an ATI Radeon 9250 but it doesn't work with Linux.03:59
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soulriderVANTA? isnt that like REALLY old04:00
phoonazsoulrider: u reckon u could give us some help installing the drivers??04:00
soulrideruhm04:00
soulriderill try04:00
soulrideri installed them so maybe i can help04:00
zappixYeah. I only use it because my ATI Radeon doesn't work with windows =S04:00
zappixerm04:00
rikiohok so if i download the packages from java.sun.com where should i install them04:00
zappixLinux04:00
zappixXD04:00
mikomikorikioh04:00
phoonazsoulrider: cus it doesnt like me for some reason :(04:00
mikomikojust get the easy ubuntu04:01
DaSkreechlnxkde: Gotta run.04:01
soulriderphoonaz: what error do you get?04:01
mikomikoso you dont have to worry of where and what04:01
soulrider!nvidia04:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:01
phoonazsoulrider: im trying to get cedega running :(04:01
mikomikoyoujust click and its done04:01
rikiohi already tried installing them once in my home directory  /home/kevin/jre1.5.0_0604:01
kanarikioh: you are still with this04:01
soulrideroh sorry, no idea, never used it04:01
rikiohyes kana04:01
rikiohstill :(04:01
soulriderbut could you install the drivers correctly?04:01
kanarikioh: so you finally knew where it was downloaded04:01
rikiohyes04:01
kanarikioh: why did not you just install it from the repos04:01
CornelliusGot difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529 <-- Something about ''xlibs''04:01
rikiohbecause the package is broken04:01
kanarikioh: i am running it here04:02
rikiohwell it says broken for me04:02
rikioh:(04:02
phoonazsoulrider: when in adept i downloaded what i believed to be the right files but then it uninstalled them straight away when i goto download somin else?04:02
soulridercheck this link04:02
rikiohwell its the mozilla java plugin thats broken in the repos04:02
soulriderhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:02
kanarikioh: adept said it was broken or aptitude told you that04:02
rikiohadept said04:02
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kanarikioh: you are the first one i ever here complaining of that04:03
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rikiohsorry :(04:03
kanarikioh: anyway if you install it manually you will do the upgrade yourself you know that04:03
rikiohjava is installed i just have to link it to firefox now04:03
TheHighChildphoonaz: I am not going to try to get too into this as it seems you already have help. All I want to do is suggest backing up your xorg.conf like so 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak-8-2-06' Then you'll have a backup in case you mess something up04:03
ErtainSo... Anyone know about screensavers and power saving?04:04
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kanaok you will find under the package dir /lib/java../ a plugin dir04:04
rikiohand i cant use the firefox java plugin from adept cuz it wont let me install it cuz it says its a broke package04:04
rikiohok04:04
zappixUm04:04
zappixWhich sources.list?04:04
TheHighChild /etc/apt/sources.list04:04
zappixetc/apt | etc/debtages or usr/share/doc.........04:04
zappixk04:05
phoonazTheHighChild: cheers man04:05
kanarikioh: by the way this might be cause of bad mirror i advise to use the main mirrors04:05
rikiohok kana and inside that there is a desktop directory and a i386 directory04:05
dakoanyone know why ark won't open zip files?04:05
kanarikioh: open the i38604:05
zappixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1953004:05
rr720 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.04:05
rikiohk now i have directories ns7 and ns7-gcc2904:05
zappixokay04:05
rr72how do i upgrade those 2?04:06
TheHighChildphoonaz: When I installed my drivers, all it required was a 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' and a 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' and that was it for me. I've heard of other people having trouble beyond that though.04:06
kanago to ns704:06
kanathe other one for old gcc04:06
rikiohlibjavaplugin_oji.so04:06
kanadako: install zip package04:06
rr72TheHighChild~ i had to do nvidia by hand since i was getting signal 1104:06
kanarikioh: great do you know how to symbolically link04:06
TheHighChildln -s /pathname04:06
rikiohnope04:06
soulriderwhats signal 1104:06
soulriderit soudns so horror movie like04:06
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dakokana which one?04:07
kanarikioh: or tell you what copy it to ./mozilla/plugin dir04:07
kanadako: there is a package called unzip install it04:07
phoonazTheHighChild: yeah well im relativly new to linux ... and especially debian-esq distros .... i started on FC404:07
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TheHighChildphoonaz: Aren't we all?04:07
phoonazTheHighChild: not sure are u ? :P04:07
rikiohi cant seem to find a folder for mozilla kana04:07
dakokana I looked at adept and it says that it's installed.Should I un-install it and re-install?04:07
kanarikioh: sorry .mozilla/plugins dir04:07
kanadako: nope04:08
kanait should work then04:08
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TheHighChildzappix: Every single repo is commented out. lol04:08
rikiohi cant find a folder for mozilla04:08
TheHighChildthats a problem04:08
zappixYse.04:08
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kanarikioh: make one04:08
rikiohso in home/kevin make a mozilla folder04:08
kanarikioh: type this04:09
kanarikioh: cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/04:09
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TheHighChildremove the '#' from in front of the repos, save the file and sudo apt-get update (remember to back it up first) 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak-8-2-0604:09
rikiohno such file or directory kana04:09
zappixGragghhh you need root access when modifying the file04:10
TheHighChildzappix: Let me know if you need help with that04:10
zappixKate <file> doesn't work right for me D:04:10
kanarikioh: then type mkdir $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/04:10
rikiohk it did that04:10
TheHighChildzappix: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'04:11
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kanarikioh: now copy the file to the newly created dir04:11
TheHighChildYou can't edit a root owned file with a lesser priveledged application04:11
zappixYse.04:11
kanarikioh: wait do you use konq or mozilla firefox04:11
TheHighChildzappix: I use the nano editor, it works in the terminal. A quick ctrl + o to save and ctrl + x to quit04:11
CornelliusGot difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''. Work as a normal user, not as root.04:11
zappixroot@ZNet:/home/zappix# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:12
zappixXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:12
zappixXlib: No protocol specified04:12
zappixkdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.004:12
zappix>>;04:12
kana!pastebin04:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:12
zappixgot that with the other meathod AND this one04:12
TheHighChildzappix: but it still worked right?04:12
rikiohfirefox04:12
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zappixnope.04:12
kanarikioh: ok04:12
zappixOh cool04:12
zappixNano04:12
rikiohthe folder isnt showing up on the gui side04:12
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rikiohbut im in the directory in konsole04:12
kanarikioh: because it is hidden04:12
zappixI use this when managing my eggdrop bot someone hosts for me..04:12
rikiohoh04:12
CornelliusI got the same error as zappix ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1952904:12
Cornelliuszappix: Next time, pastebin04:13
TheHighChildnano is based on the pico editor if I am not mistaken, it barrels for small time edits04:13
rikiohwell i dont know how to copy and paste things from konsole lol04:13
rikiohor can i view the hidden folder in the gui and do it04:13
kanarikioh: go to where the libjavaplugin file is located04:13
TheHighChildzappix: I didn't realize you were root, you didn't need kdesu with that kate command. sorry04:13
kanarikioh: you can but i do not know how to do it in konquer04:14
rikiohok im where that file is located04:14
kanarikioh: what is the file name04:14
rikiohwait hold on i need to be doing this in konsole dont i04:14
zappixokay04:14
kanayah04:14
zappixI've uncommented whatever is neccesary04:14
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TheHighChildzappix: You've only uncommented the repos right and not the comments? Can you pastebin the new one pelase04:15
CornelliusHaw, I have xlibs-dev in my repositories but not xlibs04:15
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zappixOkay...04:15
kanaCornellius: you have xserver-xorg xlibs is the old xserver04:16
Cornelliuskana: What should I do ?04:16
rikiohok kana im there04:16
kanaCornellius: what is the problem exactly04:16
kanarikioh: what is the filename again04:16
Cornelliuskana: Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''. Work as a normal user, not as root.04:17
rikiohfile name = libjavaplugin_oji.so04:17
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kanaCornellius: ok give me a min04:17
zappixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1953104:17
zappixThere.04:17
kanaok rikioh type cp libjavaplygin_oji.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/04:17
TheHighChildzappix: Looks good, just remove the extra space in front of some of the repos. and then do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential and you should be good to go04:18
kanarikioh: a quick way is to use tab completion jsut type cp libjava then tab will complete it for you04:18
andy1you dont want to be copying the plugin...you want to be making a symbolic link to it in the browser plugins folder04:18
rikiohok its in /.mozilla/plugins now04:18
kanaandy1: he installed it manually and both work04:19
BluesKajsynaptic says i have a broken pkg and to use the broken filter to find it but it doesn't show it04:19
rikiohi changed directories to that and typed dir... and it showed libjavaplugin_oji.so04:19
rikiohso it pasted it in the mozilla plugin folder04:19
kanaok now close all firefox and then reopen it04:19
kanaand try to test your java04:19
TheHighChildrikioh: You don't want to paste it, you want to link it04:19
kanaCornellius: so which application you have problem with04:20
TheHighChildMaybe I am wrong, sorry, don't listen to me04:20
zappixIt appears to be working...04:20
kanaTheHighChild: both ways should work04:20
zappixdownloading a bunch of things.04:20
Cornelliuskana: A lot of applications04:20
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TheHighChildkana: Cool, didn't know that. Thanks04:20
rikiohdidnt work kana :(04:20
TheHighChildzappix: Awesome, glad to hear that.04:20
kanaTheHighChild: if the plugin can find java on the path and that is the main problem when you install to local folder04:20
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zappixAlright, it went... thakns ^^04:20
zappixOkay.......04:21
zappixNow how would I use a Makefile?04:21
rikiohwhere the java app should be i still have a white screen with a green puzzle peice04:21
TheHighChildzappix: np, sorry it took so long. I could always have editted your sources for yu and whatnot but that wouldn't have tought you much in the long run04:21
BluesKajE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages...WTF does this mean ?04:21
TheHighChildzappix: Should tell you what to do in the README. Usually you have to initiate make to create a makefile and then 'make install'04:21
zappixOH04:22
zappixRIGHT04:22
kanarikioh: because the plugin can not find the proper java04:22
bytefooanyone know why usb headphones don't work in kubuntu? i've tried two different ones, but they don't work, even though the usb_sound module shows up in /proc/asound :|04:22
zappixI can now use the "make" commands04:22
zappixXD04:22
TheHighChild;)04:22
BluesKajhow can i fix it if it won't ID the offending pkgs04:22
kanaCornellius: so you do not have a graphical interface all together?04:22
rikiohi followed the guidlines on java.sun.com04:22
rikiohand installed the bin file in home/kevin04:23
andy1what browser are you using rikiioh04:23
rikiohfirefox04:23
Cornelliuskana: Yes I do, but when I just gedit in a terminal, it works. When I sudo gedit blablabla, it tells me what I pasted in the pastebin.04:23
kanarikioh: java is normally installed under /usr/lib more specifically /usr/lib/jvm/04:23
andy1well you want to be in the firefox plugins folder and type : ln -s /path to java plugin/libjavaplugin.so04:24
kanaCornellius: ok we are getting somewhere04:24
kanarikioh: try andy1 way try symbolic linking might work04:24
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TheHighChildCornellius: have you tried intiating it as gdmsu gedit filename?04:25
kanaCornellius: are you logged in as root when you are trying to run gedit04:25
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zuushey04:26
acid-tripi need help mounting a ufs in kubuntu04:26
kanaCornellius: did you enable your root account for the paste you linked me too says you are root04:26
zappixUmm04:26
Cornelliuskana: No. I did su,  then gedit blablabla04:26
zappixMake install uninstall etc. still isn't working right04:26
zappixI receive errors...04:26
zappixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1953204:26
kanaCornellius: use sudo blah blah blah04:27
CornelliusI did04:27
kanasu is not allowed a gui on uunt04:27
kanaubuntu04:27
CornelliusIt used to work before04:27
kanaCornellius: this is what you pasted root@alain:/home/alain# gedit04:28
kanawhich say you are logged in as root04:28
CornelliusI know04:28
Cornelliusbut before I could gedit something as roo04:28
TheHighChildzappix: You're beyond me at this point, sorry man04:28
Cornellius*root04:28
Cornelliusin another HD04:28
kanaubuntu you might but not in a gui04:28
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kanaCornellius: in command line ok not gui04:29
zappixalright04:29
zappixthanks anyway =/04:29
zappixBut thanks for the help earlier =P04:29
zappixwait04:29
zappixdon't you have to run like ./configure first?04:29
Cornelliuskana: Why's that ?04:29
kanaits the security measures that are implemented by ubuntu04:29
zappixbecause ./configure STILL doesn't work04:29
zuushey how come kubuntu seems to put itself in a random HDD's MBR in my system? i can load the boot cd, install it onto its own dedicated HDD, but i reboot after the install and (after trying to boot from all of them) none will load it. One always pops up with Grub, but comes up with an error04:30
kana!root ? Cornellius04:30
ubotuI know nothing about root ? Cornellius - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:30
kana!sudo ? Cornellius04:30
ubotuI know nothing about sudo ? Cornellius - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:30
kana!root > Cornellius04:30
kanamy mistake04:30
Cornelliuskana: hehehe, just tell me why. Oh04:30
kanait is the way it is set on ubuntu Cornellius04:30
Cornelliuskana: But that is new right ? On a clean install, no repo added, no updates, I could su, then gedit blablabla04:31
kanathey and FBSD claim that sudo is more secure then su04:31
Cornelliuskana: Still, thanks for the ansers04:31
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pierrethabattoir:?04:31
rikiohthat didnt work either ok kana just tell me one thing before i try to attempt to install it in usr/lib/jvm   should i erase the older java folders that are in there04:31
kanaCornellius: am not a developer so do not know of the pecualrities take care04:31
kanarikioh: nope04:31
rikiohok04:32
rikiohwell im gonna install java to that folder04:32
kanathey are used by openoffice04:32
rikiohso ill brb04:32
kanarikioh: not install04:32
kanajust copy them there04:32
bkudriawhen i hit my keyboard volume-up and volume-down mixer, it adjusts kmix's master mixer...but sound on my system is not affected by this mixer, only the PCM mixer...how do i fix this?04:32
rikiohoh... gotcha04:32
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pierrethcan i make kde as cool as xfce?04:34
Hawkwindpierreth: Yes04:34
Hawkwindpierreth: You can do anything you want as far as customization of any DE/WM04:34
abattoirHawkwind, pierreth: hello :)04:34
pierrethHawkwind: you think? because i have some questions04:34
rikiohkana it said access denied when i tried to copy them there04:34
rikiohdo i need root?04:34
pierrethabattoir: hello!04:34
kanapierreth: i think kde is already cooler then xfce :)04:35
kanarikioh: yes you need sudo04:35
Hawkwindabattoir: Good evening sir!04:35
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flaccidsilly question off topic. how do i op myself in my own channel that own on freenode ?04:35
zappixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19532 <------- somebody told me04:35
zappixinstall the kernel source04:35
zappixbut how? ^^;04:35
pierrethabattoir: i made the test with kde and xfce, xfce won!04:35
abattoirHawkwind: the same to you.04:35
Hawkwindflaccid: /msg chanserv op #Channel <nick>04:35
abattoirpierreth: what 'test'? :P04:35
hansentpierreth:  What's so cool about xfce? (that's a genuine question)04:35
kanapierreth: did you try new themes04:35
Hawkwindflaccid: Best to ask that in #Freenode though04:35
kanathere are plenty of them04:35
flaccidoh is that where you go04:35
abattoirpierreth: if you are happy w/ xubuntu, then go w/ it :)04:36
flaccidthanks04:36
pierrethkana: it is not the appearance04:36
kanapierreth: then speed04:36
flaccidHawkwind: that redirects to #freenode-social04:36
Hawkwindflaccid: Exactly04:36
pierrethabattoir: can i use the kde application with xfce?04:36
Hawkwindflaccid: That's where you ask, once you're given a voice (+v)04:36
flaccidHawkwind: you have to wait for a voice... very long time04:36
abattoirpierreth: yes, you should be able to...04:36
Hawkwindpierreth: Yes04:36
pierrethcool!04:36
Hawkwindflaccid: I don't, I'm on the access list :P04:37
rikiohkana out of sheer luck i think i figured out my problem04:37
kanaxfce is predominantly gtk based right ?04:37
Hawkwindkana: Yes04:37
kanapierreth: if you are looking for speed look at icewm04:37
kanarikioh: great :)04:37
pierrethi would like to make title of the apps disappear in the kicker04:37
HawkwindXfce is just as fast as IceWM would be04:37
rikiohheres what i think the problem is... ok i created a mozilla/plugins folder and pasted the so file there right04:37
flaccidHawkwind: mad :) how do i find out who owns a channel? sorry about asking, but i can't wait for voice04:37
zappixHow do I "install the kernel source?"04:37
rikiohwell when i was browsing i just found this  usr/lib/firefox/plugins04:38
Hawkwindflaccid: Ask in #Freenode.  This channel isn't here for that stuff really04:38
rikiohi think i need to paste it there04:38
rikiohand it might work04:38
flaccidi was hoping you'd be ubuntu-like04:38
kanarikioh: nope04:38
Hawkwindflaccid: Though if you must know, /msg chanserv help04:38
rikiohdarn04:38
kanarikioh: the local .mozilla is for your account04:38
hansentzappix: do you need the entire kernel or just the headers?04:38
kanathe global /lib/firefox is for all users04:38
rikiohah... thought i finally figured something out :)04:39
pierrethis it possible with kde?04:39
kanarikioh: so if it did not work for you the first time it will not the second :)04:39
abattoirpierreth: what?04:39
zappixhansent: well my problem can be found here04:39
zappixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1953204:39
abattoirpierreth: you dont want the taskbar?04:39
zappixwhen I run make install uninstall /etc.04:39
pierrethabattoir: i would like to not see the titles of the applications in the task bar of the kicker04:39
zappixit returns errors04:39
rikiohok well im about to put java in user/lib/jvm04:39
rikiohbrb04:39
pierrethabattoir: just like in xfce04:40
rikiohafter i do that should i try to link the plugins new location to the mozilla folder?04:40
abattoirpierreth: what else would you like to see? icons? or do you want to remove the tasbar itself?04:40
pierrethabattoir: i would save losts of space04:40
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abattoirpierreth: hmmmm... i dont remember xfce04:40
pierrethabattoir: just the icons04:40
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kanarikioh: yap and i will first make a little test to see if everything is in proper order04:40
hansentzappix: you can get the source froim teh repositories04:40
rikiohok04:40
zappixYou mean like kernel.org or whatever it is?04:41
zappix>>;04:41
kanapierreth: have a look at kde-look.org04:41
pierrethwith kde, you can remove the icons from the task bar of the kicker but the title's name04:41
pierrethkana: ok04:41
hansentzappix:no the ubuntu repos04:41
flaccidHawkwind: heh people giving me shit in #freenode-social and aint even got a voice to responde :(04:42
hansentzappix: try this command:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`04:42
pierrethkana: can you help me find what i am looking for04:42
kanapierreth: am not that proficient with gui stuff04:43
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Hawkwindflaccid: Try and watch the language please04:43
hansentzappix: that should install the kernel headers....if that doesnt work you might need the entire kernel...but I doubt that (that package is called "linux-source")04:43
flaccidi try but can't gaurantee anything04:43
pierrethkana: ok, but my problem is not really if the look but more about the behaviour04:43
kanapierreth: ok what is the problem04:44
zappixok04:44
hansentzappix: unlless of course you have installed a differnt kernel...but since you don't have the source I doubt that would be the case04:44
zappixalright04:44
pierrethi would like to see only the icons of the app in the task bar of the kicker04:44
hansentzappix: does your build work now?04:44
zappixit appears to have finished04:44
zappixmake commands should work now?04:44
hansentzappix:give it a try04:45
kanapierreth: that is defently gui am sure there is a way to set it did you try kcontrol the kde control center or just right clicking with the mouse on the taskbar04:45
zappixhansent: it LOOKS like it's working04:46
zappixThanks! ^^04:46
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acid-tripcould some one help me mount a ufs in kubuntu04:46
zappixuhm04:46
pierrethkana: in the control center, it is possible to remove the icon but not the title04:46
hansentzappix: no problem04:46
kanapierreth: sorry was not of more help but i told you i just work with default gui. frankly i run the min fluxbox and ion here04:46
zappixone second04:46
pierrethkana: with the right i tried too04:46
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rikiohkanna can i use cp /jre1.5.0_06 ~/usr/lib/jvm04:46
rikiohwould that take the whole folder and put it there?04:47
zappixHansent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1953404:47
zappixIt's still error'ing out04:47
pierrethkana: cool if you like it, but kde would my favorite if it is possible to set it the way i want it04:47
kanarikioh: cp -dir <location of jre dir> /usr/lib/jvm/04:47
rikiohah ok... i was close :)04:48
kanapierreth: i am sure you can do it easily just wait for someone who use it regularly try the helpcenter04:48
soulrideris there any way to get rid of the pager? and maybe the clock04:48
hansentzappix: yeah but it's a different error...did you run that as root?04:48
abattoirsoulrider: rt.click->Remove applet04:48
hansentzappix: as in with "sudo"04:48
zappixhansent: XD good idea04:48
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soulriderhansent: that doesnt work04:49
pierrethkana: ok, i am trying to find some help here just right now :-)04:49
kanapierreth: before that browse the website i sent you pick up a look you want then there will be instructions on how to get it04:49
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abattoirsoulrider: or remove pager... whatever it says04:49
rikiohso if its just in my home directory it i would type cp -dir <jre1.5.0_06> /usr/lib/jvm04:49
soulrideroh yes, sorry04:49
hansentsoulrdier: what doesn't work?04:49
pierrethkana: ok04:49
soulrideri had to click on the tiny bar04:49
kanarikioh: yap04:49
rikiohkk04:49
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soulriderthanks104:49
soulrider!04:49
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rr72soulrider~ questions about kde #kde is very helpful04:49
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rikiohand im gonna need sudo so do i type sudo cp -dir?04:50
rr72!soulrider04:50
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pierrethi would like to know if it is possible to change the view in Konqueror without going in a submenu?04:50
kanarikioh: you are picking it up right04:50
zappixHansent: By the looks of it, it worked. Thanks again04:50
rikiohi think so :)04:50
soulriderlol04:50
kanathere is a classrom room for teaching things about ubuntu04:50
bkudriawhen i hit my keyboard volume-up and volume-down mixer, it adjusts kmix's master mixer...but sound on my system is not affected by this mixer, only the PCM mixer...how do i fix this?04:50
kanalet me check the schedule04:50
hansentzappix: no problem...what device do you need the windows driver for?04:50
zappixWestell 802.11g Wireless USB adapter04:51
kanarikioh: check this out is really good for begginers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom04:51
pierrethabattoir: ?04:51
abattoirpierreth: ???04:51
abattoirpierreth: you still stuck w/ the taskbar?04:51
pierrethabattoir: have you find it?04:52
pierrethabattoir: yes04:52
hansentzappix: ahh...don't have much experience with any of the usb wireless devices...lt me know if when you get it working though, I was thinking about getting one...04:52
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abattoirpierreth: afaik, it is not possible.. you can hide/show icons... but not the title bar....04:52
zappixHansent: Alright... I just gotta find out how to use this now XP04:52
pierrethabattoir: :-(04:52
abattoirpierreth: i mean, the title of the app, of course04:52
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abattoirpierreth: you could ask in #kde , if you want04:53
rikiohkana: when i type cp -dir <jre1.5.0_06> /usr/lib/jvm       it comes back with bash: /usr/lib/jvm/ is a drectory04:53
blackdogjeffhi everybody04:53
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zappixHello.04:53
pierrethabattoir: can i select another view in konqueror without going in a submenu?04:53
soulriderwhats TBD?04:53
blackdogjeffi from brazil04:53
soulrideroi blackdogjeff04:53
abattoirpierreth: you want to change view profiles? or view of the directory?04:53
blackdogjeffoi soulrider04:54
pierrethabattoir: the view of a dirctory04:54
blackdogjeffe ae tc de onde?04:54
kanarikioh: ok let me check this out04:54
soulridereu nao falo portugues :P04:54
blackdogjeffsorry04:54
kanarikioh: there is a special format for it will try to remember it04:54
blackdogjeffthat's ok04:54
rikiohkana: ok thank you04:55
abattoirpierreth: hmmm so you want to 'save' a particular view for a directory....04:55
pierrethabattoir: no04:55
acid-tripi figured out how to mount a unix file system04:55
acid-trip:D04:55
blackdogjeffwhere are you from soulrider?04:55
soulrideruruguay04:55
pierrethabattoir: i just don't want to go all the time in the submenu04:55
blackdogjeffcool04:55
abattoirpierreth: if you dont want to go through the menu, then assign a shortcut key for it04:55
soulriderdoes anyone know whats TBD? the classroom times appear as TBD04:56
pierrethabattoir: can i put a button on a tool bar instead?04:56
blackdogjeffare you use what kind of linux04:56
blackdogjeff?04:56
soulriderKubuntu04:56
abattoirpierreth: could be possible..04:56
kanarikioh: it should work sudo cp -dir <source>/ <desit>/04:56
kanado not forget the backslash at the end04:56
pierrethabattoir: as i know, it is not possible04:56
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blackdogjeffcool !!! i do too04:57
rikiohand i do use the <>04:57
rikiohright04:57
abattoirpierreth: well, ok, wait up04:57
soulrider=)04:57
kanaright04:57
blackdogjeffok ! i'm gonna way04:57
blackdogjeffits too late here in brazil04:57
blackdogjeff*away04:58
blackdogjeffits 00:00 in brazil04:58
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blackdogjeffbye n' have a nice day !04:59
soulriderbye bye!04:59
rikiohsudo cp -dir <jre1.5.0_06>/ <usr/lib/jvm>/                       bash: /: Is a directory04:59
rikioh:(04:59
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kanarikioh: do not know i tested the command before i posted it to you and it worked here fine05:01
kanarikioh: i can only see you missed the / before usr/lib05:01
rikiohah05:01
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rikiohwell i just redid it with the / there and i got the same error :(05:02
kanasudo cp -dir jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/lib/jvm/05:03
kanarikioh: from the place where jre is located05:03
rikiohi am05:03
rikiohits at home05:03
rikiohif i type dir05:03
rikiohi can see that folder05:03
kanasudo cp -dir ~/jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/lib/jvm/05:03
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rikiohhey i think that worked05:04
rikiohit asked me for my password05:04
kanathat is right05:04
manelsonhey, is anyone here running amarok 1.4.1?05:05
rikiohyes it did work your amazing :)05:05
kanano pc is stupid you have to be carefull with the spelling and format :)05:05
kanarikioh: now sudo update-alternatives --config java05:05
kanayou will find that sun java is listed05:06
rikiohin the alternatives list?05:06
kanayes05:07
rikiohin the alternates list it says 1. /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1           2. /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java05:07
kanarikioh: cp and paste the command i gave you you will see on hte list sun-java05:07
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rikiohis usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java........... is that sun java05:08
RadiantFireno05:09
kanarikioh: it is not listed05:09
RadiantFirethats from gcj -> gcc -> gnu05:09
rikiohi guess not05:09
RadiantFirerikioh: have you installed sun-java5-05:10
RadiantFireits somepackage that has that as its start05:10
rikiohi installed java manually05:10
kanarikioh: are you sure you got the jre package from java05:10
rikiohyes05:10
abattoirpierreth: if you want it, you can add it manually... ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc is the file05:11
rikiohhttp://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp  ---- linux (self-extracting file_05:11
rikioh)05:11
rikiohnot the rpm05:12
rikiohbut the other05:12
kanasudo mv /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/lib/05:12
kanatry this as last resort05:12
Bragiiam searching for a nice,lightweigth - non console bittorrent client? (i want to manage all torrents in one window,like in azureus - but i dont want to use java because it sucks. and dont sue me for saying this :p)05:13
Bragisome suggestions?05:13
rikiohok it went to the next line05:13
pierrethabattoir: ok05:13
rikiohso it did something05:13
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kanaBragi: am looking for one too. heared there was one used by apple bot i lost the link :(05:14
kanarikioh: it moved the folder05:14
unix_infidelapple ships with a bit torrent client05:14
rikiohit moved it up a directory right05:14
rikiohinstead of being in lib05:14
kanacheck if the folder is under /usr/lib05:14
unix_infideleven its posix compatible, doesnt mean its linux compatible.05:14
rikiohyup its there05:14
kanaunix_infidel: i got it from a post by an apple geek who run ubuntu on an old mac05:15
unix_infidelkana: URL?05:15
manelsonhas anyone here gotten mp3s working on amarok 1.4.1?05:15
kanayet again i forgot to book mark :(05:15
kanaunix_infidel: i will search for it again give me a min05:15
Bragino one.05:15
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rikiohok now that its moved what should i do05:16
rikiohlook for alternatives again?05:16
kanatry the update alternatives again05:16
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rikiohsame 2 kana05:17
unix_infidelkana: itorrent?05:17
kanarikioh: do not know what to do more rikioh05:17
kanaunix_infidel: will check itorrent out but reall sorry do not remember05:17
rikiohok im gonna try to get sun java in the jvm folder instead of the java.com version05:17
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kanawas a while ago05:17
rikiohand check for alternatives05:18
kanarikioh: no05:18
rikiohmaybe it will recognize sun java05:18
rikioh...k05:18
rikioh:(05:18
kanarikioh: this will make things worse05:18
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kanatry making the symbolic link to your .mozilla/plugins dir and see if java work05:18
kanaand again it is better to install java from the repos what you are saying is strange for everyone i know installed from the repos05:19
rikiohok so i gotta get in the directory that my java is in lib05:19
kanaand had no problems05:19
unix_infidelkana: might have been this.05:20
unix_infidelhttp://transmission.m0k.org/screenshots.php05:20
rikiohand from lib type sudo -s /plugin.so /.mozilla/plugins ?05:20
rikiohthe symbolic command is -s right05:20
kanaunix_infidel:got the link give me a min for he had couple of packages i liked including democracyplayer05:21
unix_infidelkana: ?05:21
kanaunix_infidel: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/02/when-the-bough-breaks05:21
kanaam looking for what he recommended for torrent now05:22
unix_infidelkana: ya, yea democracy player looks really sweet.05:22
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kanaah he recommend ktorrent05:24
kanadoes not need java05:25
kanaunix_infidel: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/26/essentials-200605:25
kanait has been long since i read the post only thing that got stuck that it doesn't need java05:25
unix_infidellol, ktorrent is the first and only client that i've been using as of late.05:26
kananice kde never stop to amaze me but the post have really couple of good recomendations05:26
mossmanktorrent is good!05:26
kanabeagle is another thing i got from there05:27
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rikiohis there a way for me to take a screenshot in kubuntu?05:28
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nikkianais there a way to make a little icon or something show up to let you know you're connected to a wireless network?05:29
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abattoirrikioh: see if the PrntScrn button works... else open ksnapshot manually05:29
CVirusDo I have to pay to use the Canonical Commercial repos. ?05:29
abattoirCVirus: no05:29
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CViruswhat do they contain then ?05:29
CViruswhatever05:30
CVirusi'll google about it05:30
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kanaabattoir: is there a package list for those repos such as that for packages.ubuntu.com05:30
CVirusthats what I was about to ask05:30
kana:)05:30
abattoirnikkiana: hello :)05:30
abattoirkana, CVirus: i'll see if i too can find something, but its essentially non-open-source commercial stuff05:31
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abattoirlike skype, oper05:31
abattoir*opera05:31
kanaabattoir: ok nice05:31
mossmanKde will always be the forefront of nix desktop, at least for the forseeable future.  Kde's only downfall is trying to use "k" in the title of every app.  I may get the joke,  but my grandmother wont....ever.  She prefers to uses word for typing word, photoshop for photos and DVDPLAYER for playing dvd's. Us geeks will always find the humor in a game of klickety..but.  everyone else just wants to play mine sweeper.05:31
nikkianaabattoir, do you know if there's an application that makes a cute little icon in the system tray to let me know i'm connected to a wireless network?05:32
kanamossman: for me kde main fall is stability05:32
abattoirnikkiana: sure, there's pywireless....05:32
kanaprograms just crach to often on it05:32
abattoirnikkiana: i'll give you a link wait...05:32
nikkianaabattoir, okay thanks :)05:32
abattoirmossman: for me, i'd say it readily identifies an application w/ KDE05:32
kanaisn't there kwireless too05:32
kanawhich is applet05:32
Hobbseenikkiana: knemo, knetworkmanager05:33
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abattoirkana: kwirelessmonitor?05:33
mossmanMe too.. I have been with kde since version 1.... Just a small rant from a previous comment.  How can I get my CEO to take kde seriously when everything is  kalled ksomething different..  Trust me I love kde..if not I would have bought a ppc and swiched to OSX a long time ago05:34
kanaabattoir: nope Hobbsee said it knewtorkmangaer is the package name05:34
kanaor ya it is kwirelessmonitor05:34
kanaah am so sleepy here05:34
Hobbseei'm not sure if wlassistant gives you a notification down the bottom too05:34
abattoirkana: hmm, i just use pywireless to trigger wlassistant05:35
abattoirnikkiana: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2863705:35
mossmanK   Does identifiy an app.  I get it.  You get it.. Most likely everyone on this channel gets it.  What about the non geeks?05:35
abattoirmossman: i'm not a geek :)05:36
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CVirusjust apt-get install kwirelessmonitor and runs it and it crashes :-)05:36
kanai have just one question. Qnext is the only application to my knowledge that support voice and video chat under linux yet it is not referred to in any howto or wiki. Was wondering why especially i regard that as a real lack in linux05:36
kanaCVirus: lol05:36
mossmanHA.... You are here??  Yes no..?  More of a geek than he wants to believe I think05:36
CVirusrun*05:36
nikkianaabattoir, thanks :)05:37
abattoirmossman: you can think what you want to :)05:37
abattoirnikkiana: np :)05:37
abattoirnikkiana: if you dont like it try the other stuff people recommended... but this is just a nifty python script... and is fast... atleast for me05:38
rikiohkana: http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1hb6.jpg  ---- picture of what my adept looks like when i try to install sun-java5-bin05:38
kanaok rikioh05:38
abattoirrikioh: that's a known problem05:38
abattoirrikioh: please use the command line to install it05:38
mossmanIt is not a matter of what I think.  IRC died years ago.. MSN took over..  People that would be here,  for the most part are geeks.  particuly if they are using Bitchx for IRC05:38
rikiohit tells me it cant cuz of a break also in command line05:39
kanaabattoir: so it is specific to adept?05:39
abattoirrikioh: including stuff like flash-non-free(??) which requires you to input stuff05:39
abattoirkana: from what i've heard synaptic doesnt handle it better either...05:39
abattoirkana: its because, the applications expects you to enter information(for eg., you approval to a license agreement)05:39
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abattoiroops, i think i jumped the gun....05:40
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abattoirrikioh: anyways, dont install java through adept :)05:40
rikiohabattoir you tell me to install it from kommand05:40
rikiohwell when i try05:41
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rikiohhttp://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1go0.jpg            ----- thats what i get from kommand05:42
rikiohi mean konsole05:42
QMarioCan Kopete show current channels similar to XChat?05:42
kanarikioh: you can easier copy and paste to the pastebin05:42
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kanarikioh: you need the sun-java5-plugin package05:43
abattoirrikioh: hmm, wonder why unixodbc is uninstallable... try 'sudo apt-get install unixodbc'05:43
mahbubhi05:43
kanarikioh: or the jre package05:43
mossmanWhy not just download from www.sun.com jre.xxx.bin  and install it that way?  it would be much simpler05:44
rikiohkevin@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install unixodbc05:44
rikiohReading package lists... Done05:44
rikiohBuilding dependency tree... Done05:44
rikiohPackage unixodbc is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:44
abattoirrikioh: please dont paste here05:44
rikiohThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:44
rikiohis only available from another source05:44
rikiohE: Package unixodbc has no installation candidate05:44
rikiohkevin@ubuntu:~$05:44
rikiohwhoa sorry05:44
rikiohwasnt expecting that05:44
rikioh:(05:44
rikiohi didnt realize it was gonna seperate it05:44
kana!pastebin > rikioh05:45
abattoir!info unixodbc05:45
ubotuunixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB05:45
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mossmandmesg05:45
abattoirhmmm, its in main...05:45
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abattoirrikioh: you have 'main' enabled right?05:46
rikiohi have universe multiverse05:46
abattoirrikioh: you need main and restricted as well05:47
abattoirrikioh: did you remove it when you added universe and multiverse?05:47
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kanarikioh: main and restricted are enabled by default did you dissable them?05:47
rikiohi removed restricted05:47
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kanatake care all hope you solve your prob rikioh :)05:48
abattoirrikioh: ok, make sure you have 'main' under 'dapper'05:49
abattoirrikioh: else if you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file, i'll look at it05:49
rikiohunder dapper i now have universe multiverse main restricted05:49
rikiohshould it be like that or just main05:50
abattoirrikioh: that should be fine...05:51
abattoirrikioh: its 'dapper' and not 'dapper-backports' right?05:51
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rikiohyuh just dapper05:51
abattoirand also 'deb' rather than 'deb-src'..?05:51
administratorhello channel :)05:51
rikiohyeh05:52
rr72hi05:52
abattoirrikioh: ok do a 'sudo apt-get update'... could you upload the pic of that run?05:52
rikiohits download sun java right now05:52
rikioh:)05:52
rikiohin konsole05:53
rikiohok after that i need the mozilla package right05:53
abattoirrikioh: after you did that?05:53
rikiohthat way i have web browser integration05:53
administratorlist a simple ? re kde desktop  is it possible to make the menu bars transparent as well as the main bottom panel ?05:53
rikiohyup after i applied those changed it now lets me download05:53
abattoiradministrator: sure05:53
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lib8264qhow is this possible i cant see any setting for ??????05:54
abattoirlib8264q: for the panel, right click on it->Configure Panel->Appearance05:54
lib8264qyep that makes the bottom transparent .. but the actual mauns05:54
lib8264qmenus05:54
abattoirlib8264q: for the menu, Kcontrol->Appearance...->Styles->(second tab, dont remember name_05:55
abattoir)05:55
abattoirthere'd be an option there to make your  menus translucent05:55
abattoirthere is nothing that you cant make translucent :P05:55
lib8264qthats what i thought ...05:55
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lib8264qhmmmmm  nope dosent seem to be working ...05:57
abattoirdid you find the menu?05:57
lib8264qyep05:57
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lib8264qunder apperence05:58
abattoirlib8264q: Menu effect->Translucent05:58
abattoirlib8264q: then use the slider below to control translucency05:58
abattoir*Menu effect->Make translucent05:59
rr72!pastebin > lunitik05:59
abattoirlib8264q: found it?06:00
lib8264qyep i already have that set ... but the actual menus you navigate arnt changing ?????06:01
lib8264qshould that not change as well ??????06:02
abattoirlib8264q: like the Kmenu?06:03
abattoirlib8264q: changing that makes it transparent for me06:03
abattoir*translucent06:03
lib8264qyes is that possible at all ???06:03
abattoirof course it is... that's what that option controls06:04
abattoiryou could try restarting KDE if you want06:04
lib8264qnope iv already tried that ... still stays same06:04
abattoirhmmm, you dont even need to have composite enabled for that06:05
abattoirlib8264q: are you using a very old h/w by any chance?06:06
lib8264qdefine old ????? lol06:06
lib8264q1ghz06:06
lib8264qlappy06:06
lib8264qp306:07
rr72who had a small laptop?06:07
abattoirhmm, i've run it under a PIII 1Ghz too... works06:07
abattoirvideo card?06:07
rr72i have a pIII 850mhz06:07
abattoirnot that i think it is very relevant...06:07
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lib8264qahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh crappy one ... intel830m06:07
rr72who had the monochrome laptop?06:07
abattoirlib8264q: did you try toggling the 'Menu Translucency type'?06:08
hackman2007_I'm unable to get online with Kubuntu, directly connected to a netgear router, is there any way to connect06:08
lib8264qyedp06:08
abattoirlib8264q: and none of the opacity levels work... right?06:08
abattoirlib8264q: it works for me... and it takes immediate effect too...06:09
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lib8264qthe launch bar as in where the windows task bar changes (totaly transParent) but the k menues htemselves are totally visible06:10
hackman2007_>I'm unable to get online with Kubuntu, directly connected to a netgear router, any ideas?06:11
rikiohok i got sun java installed now how should i integrate it into my firefox browser?06:11
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lib8264qso any ideas what im doing wrong ????? or im possibly missing ?06:16
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bobbyyuCan someone please tell me where to get diskmounter?06:17
supernixI know this might sound crazy but does anyone know how to operate a floppy drive and get it to read and write like it is supposed to and will it read a disk formatted under windows ?06:19
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lib8264quse kfloppy ?????????06:20
supernixyes a floppy drive06:22
lib8264qin kubuntu dcan you not use kfloppy ???? to access06:22
lib8264qcan*06:22
supernixI did try working with it but kept getting errors that it was already mounted and then when I tried opening it I kept getting errors about no record in mtab or somehting like that06:23
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soulriderguys, how can i delete a directory? when i select it and press del ti sais its proted06:26
soulriderwhast the CLI command ?06:26
soulrideradnt he directory si not empty06:27
Hawkwindsoulrider: rm -f or rm -rf but use with extreme caution06:27
Hawkwindsoulrider: If it's owned by root, then add sudo to it06:27
soulrideri got this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands but is there any other that will explain in detail allt he options ?06:28
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lwizardlhi06:28
apeman2020i need assistance with a OneorZero install...06:28
Hawkwindsoulrider: Read the man pages will give you all the options for a certain command06:28
soulriderok06:29
lwizardlhow do i map link to a ubuntu hd on another pc?06:29
soulrideralso, what was the command to purge soemthign from my comp?06:29
soulriderdpkg -P ?06:29
soulrider!dpkg06:30
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.06:30
bobbyyuWhat's the link to the FAT32 version of diskmounter?06:30
Hawkwindsoulrider: http://aruljohn.com/info/apt.php06:30
soulriderthanks Hawkwind06:30
bobbyyuI need to set permissions on my Fat32 drive06:30
Hawkwindsoulrider: FYI....google.com and I searched for: dpkg commands.  First hit on google06:31
supernixWhat is Kubuntu going to do to get the recognition it deserves. I see loads of Ubuntu books on the horizon and not a single Ubuntu in site. Not only that there is a Linux mag that shipped out a DVD of Ubuntu but sad to say no Kubuntu06:31
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ftwiineri need help06:32
bobbyyuI need to set permissions on my FAT32 drives. What should I do?06:32
ftwiineri get an error saying:06:32
ftwiinerThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.06:32
lwizardlsupernix, a ubuntu install is a base, you can add the kubuntu desktop very easy to a installed version of ubuntu06:33
supernixI have heard that and actually did install Gnome once on my Kubuntu box06:34
supernixBut all the helps and how to info is written from the Gnome stand point06:35
supernixLike they tell you the Gnome program to use to do XZ&Z which would not matter if they also would include the Kubuntu equivilent and likewise directions for that app06:36
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ftwiinerhelp please06:37
lwizardlsupernix, true i know what you mean. like use gedit to edit sources.list but in kubuntu you use nano06:37
supernixYes exactly06:37
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ftwiiner:(06:39
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lwizardlwould it be a dns issue if a ubuntu box seems to lose the ip? for example i can go to the page and then 5 mins later i get timeouts but few min later i can get back on again06:42
thompainternets way too slow all of a sudden06:44
bobbyyuCan somebody tell me how to change permissions on my FAT32 files?06:44
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ftwiinerhello06:45
ftwiineri can't open adept06:45
thompabobbyyu: try systemsettings first06:46
thompasystem settings, disk and file system, log on admin06:46
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ftwiinerhow do i run it in the terminal06:48
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ftwiinerThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.06:48
Hikaru79Hello everyone :)06:48
ftwiineri need help06:48
Hikaru79ftwiiner: that's often caused if you try to use apt-get while Synaptic or Adept is already open.06:48
Hikaru79Close Synaptic and/or Adept and then try apt-get command again.06:49
ftwiinernothing is opened i restarted and it still won't open06:49
Hikaru79Hmm06:49
Hikaru79When do you get this error?06:49
ftwiineri got it at startup and everytime i try to open the app06:49
Hikaru79Which app? Adept?06:49
ftwiineryes06:50
Hikaru79Hmm, strange. Did you do anything to your /etc/apt/sources.list file?06:50
ftwiineri don't know :(06:50
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soulriderwhat app can i use to check the integrity of a hard drive which was been formatted in NTFS format ?06:50
ftwiinermaybe i did by mistake i was trying to update everything06:51
Hikaru79Post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to rafb.net06:51
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ftwiinerhikaru i did06:53
supernixsomeone told me about this NTFS project http://www.linux-ntfs.org/06:54
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luisillohello all, got a progblem after installed ati drivers, they work but cant open now Display-system settings, getting an error06:58
Hawkwindftwiiner: You need to post the URL where you posted it06:58
ftwiineroh..didn't know06:58
ftwiinerhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/EXyhTo18.html06:58
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Hawkwindftwiiner: You need to uncomment some of the lines as it states.  All of your sources are commented out currently06:59
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luisillogetting message when trying to access Display - system settings, message says The module Display could not be loaded. any one could help plz =)07:00
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soulrider!kubuntu-es07:02
ubotuI know nothing about kubuntu-es - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:02
soulrider7join #kubuntu-es07:02
soulridercrap.....07:02
abattoir!es07:04
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:04
abattoirsoulrider: :)07:04
ftwiinerhow do i uncommrny07:04
ftwiiner*uncomment07:04
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Hawkwindftwiiner: Remove the # from in front of the line07:04
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ftwiineri don't understand :(07:06
ftwiineri really know nothing of Linux07:06
ftwiineri want to but its proving very dificult07:07
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ftwiineri have to delete both # or only one?07:08
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luisilloanyone know if re-emerging kdebase fixes problem i got that cant access Display settings?07:08
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raphinkftwiiner: any line that begins with a # is a commentary07:11
ftwiinergot that..so what do i do07:11
raphinkwell I have no idea what you want to do07:13
ftwiineradept doesn't open07:13
ftwiineri get an error07:13
ftwiinerThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem07:15
ftwiineri want to instal several programs07:15
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Hawkwindsudo apt-get install <program>07:16
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HawkwindYou can do it that way but first you need to uncomment your sources07:16
ftwiinersudo?07:16
Hawkwind!sources07:16
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:16
Hawkwindftwiiner: Read that ^^^^^^^07:16
Hawkwindftwiiner: sudo is what Ubuntu uses instead of a root account07:16
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ftwiinerwhich of the two?07:17
dduhello07:17
Hawkwindftwiiner: Read them both07:17
Hawkwindftwiiner: Being new to linux you need to read about the basics as it will help you learn greatly07:17
Skeez187*skeez*07:17
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ftwiinerk07:18
dduis there a wiki for kubuntu and irc/dcc chat?07:18
ddui can't seem to find what i need...07:18
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ftwiineri'm reading but must i solve this on my own?07:21
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ddufor some reason i cannot dcc chat.07:22
ddumy router is forwarding th correct port07:22
dduso i don't know what is going on07:22
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kyle_hey, when i try installing some things using apt-get install.. i get an error "please check your local settings: eng_ca eng_us                       LC_all = 'unset'      LANG = en-CA utf8........ then it says falling back on default locale setting and then LC_Cype LC_messages and lc_all are not there, what would this be cause from and how can i fix it? any ideas?07:25
MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone!07:27
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ftwiinerits 1:27 am here07:27
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kyle_haha that's pretty early, it's 10:30 here07:28
apeman2020evening millhouse07:29
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ftwiineradept doesn't open07:30
ftwiinerhlep me anyone07:30
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obf213and just when i thought i had it working perfectly. im not getting any sound out of my laptop speakers, but the headphones have sound.07:31
obf213i used to have sound....and the headphones work07:31
ftwiinerthere aren't many helpful around.. :|07:32
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obf213OK07:33
obf213it just sucks how linux has so many problems07:33
kyle_anyone know about locale settings and them not working/being found? or not?:P07:34
obf213u spend forever getting it t work your happy with it, then all of a sudden the speakers arent working but headphoens are07:34
ftwiinerThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.07:34
kyle_hmm I think i got it to work07:38
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bobbyyuHow do I know which FD stores my files?07:44
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kyle_for what program?07:50
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the-erm-2is there an easy way to find out what version you're running ...07:53
crimsunlsb_release -r07:54
jack__i have a amd64 cpu, but i will only run 32-bit app. k7 or 686, which kernel  is the best?07:55
the-erm-2thanks.07:55
the-erm-2is dapper 6.06 ?07:58
cpk2yes07:58
the-erm-2ok07:58
the-erm-2thanks.07:58
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AzzcoHi I'm having some graphical problems here...07:59
AzzcoI was able to run games and such rather good under ubuntu but when installed kubuntu everything runs really slow08:00
AzzcoI've got a i915 chipset if that helps.08:00
cpk2ewww built in intel chip?08:00
crimsunyes, integrated.08:01
AzzcoI don't know much about my hardware =s08:01
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Azzcois it some common problem?08:01
crimsunI use an i915GM08:01
crimsunit's not very high-end (or medium-end) for hardware 3D accel08:02
crimsunin fact, it's craptacular.08:02
Azzcowell it could run games rather good under windows...08:02
cpk2i remember before i got a new motherboard i had an integrated intel chip08:02
Skeez187*skeez*08:02
cpk2very sad days...08:02
Azzcoyeah...I'm going to get a new computer as fast as possible as this one is my moms...08:03
Skeez187*skeez*08:03
Azzcomaybe I should just wait with games till then.08:03
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cpk2you using wine?08:04
Azzconope08:04
AzzcoI'm trying to avoid it as much as possible08:04
cpk2so you only running native games?08:04
Azzcowell I intend to as I reinstalled kubuntu yesterday...(was trying to install gentoo with a very sad ending)08:05
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cpk2rofl gentoo08:05
AzzcoI haven't got any games to run yet except for some of my playstation games running epsxe08:05
Azzcobut that was when I was under ubuntu...08:05
cpk2kubuntu is still ubuntu08:05
Azzcoinly the kde/gnome that differs?08:06
cpk2there isnt a change in how the hardware is handled08:06
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Azzcohmm...weird08:06
Azzcoscreensavers were alot smoother when installing from the ubuntu cd...08:06
cpk2you can install gnome if you want and switch back and forth to see if there is a difference08:07
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Azzco=p08:07
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Azzcowhen were on the subject, is it possible to run fluxbox or enlightenment 16 with kde? I'm talking about the RMB clicking on desktop and such08:08
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AzzcoI only get the normal "create new folder etc menu"08:09
Skeez187*skeez*08:09
MilhousePunkRockAzzco: Fluxbox or Enlightenment are window managers too, you would replace KDE with them08:09
nalphahow to transfer files between two computer in a local network??08:09
Azzcooh okay08:09
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Azzconalpha:  shared folders maybe?08:10
cpk2nalpha: samba?08:10
cpk2!samba08:10
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:10
obf213so any ideas as to why there is no sound coming out the spearkers but coming out the headphones?08:10
GHhi08:10
cpk2obf213: you using alsa?08:10
obf213it was on auto detect08:10
obf213i set it to alsa08:11
obf213but it didnt change it08:11
GHi just update kde.3.5.408:11
obf213it used to work perfect :(08:11
MilhousePunkRockobf213: Speakers connected in the back, headphones in the front?08:11
cpk2obf213: run alsamixer and check all the volume settings08:11
obf213laptop?08:11
GHand system menu crash08:11
obf213MilhousePunkRock speakers are built in to my lappy08:11
GHonly the theme part08:11
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MilhousePunkRockGH: Look at the channel topic, it's broken in dapper08:11
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crimsunobf213: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''08:11
obf213ok08:12
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GHhow to come back ?08:12
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GHto kde3.5.308:12
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bobbyyuI just checked "File Systems" in the System Settings panel, but I found no help08:13
bobbyyuThis problem existed when I wanted to change permissions for my FAT32 drives08:14
bobbyyuHow ccan I do it?08:14
obf213crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/11278708:15
the-erm-2bobbyyu: as I recall you need to change an entry in your /etc/fstab file, as well as chown user:user /mount/point08:15
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crimsunobf213: when did it stop working?08:15
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obf213when i restarted it08:16
crimsunobf213: after a kernel update?08:16
enzo!register > me08:16
obf213no08:16
obf213after nothing, all i did was turn it on to listen to music08:16
obf213i listend w/ and w/o headphones08:16
obf213now only hphones are working08:16
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the-erm-2obf213: have you fiddled with things in alsamixer?08:17
bobbyyuWhat do I change (I'm looking at the file)] 08:17
obf213not yet08:17
obf213do ijust apt -get that08:17
obf213it used to work before i listend to music all the time so i dont udnerstand why it doesnt work this time...08:17
the-erm-2bobbyyu: that's the problem, I can't remember :/08:17
Ademani know i'm kinda asking for it, but i'm a gnome user, but i keep hearing people rave about KDE, i'm downloading kubuntu right now so I can try it out, can anyone tell me why you use kde, and what i should check out when i try out the live CD that will hook me?08:18
the-erm-2It's something really simple at the end. having to do with user mode.08:18
bobbyyuGreat08:18
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crimsunobf213: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat08:19
nalphafriends how to transfer file between two computer in network using terminal??08:20
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lowercasescp? netcat?08:20
enzoI can't recall if I've registered my nick. How can I tell if I registered it or some1 else did?08:21
the-erm-2bobbyyu: maybe man fstab, and man mount will help08:21
obf213 crimsun: 0: SigmaTel STAC920008:22
crimsunoh great, the nasty one.08:23
obf213always worked before w and w/o headphones08:23
crimsunso you haven't updated kernels at all?08:23
obf213Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (1997 bogomips), , RAM: 703/1001MB, 120 proc's, 1.14h up08:24
obf213no08:24
obf213thats the same kernel ive had for a while08:24
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crimsunobf213: does it persist across a cold boot (power down, wait 2 minutes, power back up)?08:25
crimsunphone call.08:25
obf213i havent tried yet.08:25
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QMarioHow can I make the Desktop Switcher to act like GNOME's Workspace Switcher?08:26
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Ace2005QMario: so what does it act like?08:27
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Ace2005QMario: The one on the pannel or Alt+Tab?08:28
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QMarioWhen you switch desktops, the applications from the old desktop on the taskbar are not on the taskbar of the new desktop.08:28
Skeez187*skeez*08:28
QMarioAce2005, no.08:28
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Ace2005QMario: Right click on the panel > Configure Panel > Taskbar08:29
HawkwindSkeez187: You ever say anything else ?08:30
Ace2005QMario: then untick show desktops from all desktops08:30
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obf213crimsun: i tried to restart the sound system and it seems to be perpetually restarting it08:30
obf213kkl08:30
QMarioAce2005, thank you!!! :)08:30
obf213crimsun: i will try the restart i guess08:31
QMarioThank God!!! :) Yay!!! :)08:31
QMarioWheee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!108:31
QMarios/1/!/08:31
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QMarioDoes KDE use more memory than GNOME?08:33
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bobbyyuDo you know where I can find a modified version of the diskmounter script?08:35
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obf213crimusn: it works now i restarted thanks for your time08:35
=== obf213 so much for "never having to restart your computer with linux"
Ace2005obf213: well you shouldn't have to, just restart the service or restart the x-server08:37
obf213yeah i did that08:37
obf213anyways just wondeer why the commands i wrote in my .bashrc don't work until i open konsole08:38
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obf213if i merely just open konsole my media buttons work08:38
obf213its weird08:38
cpk2obf213: what kind of laptop? the wiki has a list of laptops and says what works/what doesnt08:39
Ace2005IS THIS BAD? ace@Linux:~$ cd /home/ace/   ---   chdir: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory08:40
obf213cpk2: dell e140508:40
Ace2005why can't i cd to my home dir?08:40
obf213i know the buttons work08:40
obf213they work all the time08:40
cpk2!laptop08:40
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org08:40
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obf213just not at boot even though its written in my .bashrc08:40
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obf213but if i just open the console and not type anything they all of a sudden start working08:41
jochAce2005: have you changed the permissions on /home ?08:41
obf213its all good though open konsole is no big deal cpk208:41
Ace2005joch: i restarted konsole and the error seems to have gone08:41
cpk2obf213: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspironE140508:41
obf213thanks cpk2, but i've already made all that untested stuff work08:44
uniqAce2005: no, that error message is not bad. It just means that you used 'cd' to go into a directory, and then you probably deleted or moved it in the filemanager.. and when you go back to konsole it is 'cd'ed into a directory that does not exits. you can simply execute 'cd' to go back to your home directory and the shell will only notify you once.08:45
uniqHawkwind: just do another dist-upgrade before removing the preferences file.08:46
cpk2if you do dist-upgrade does it autmatically configure grub to use the new kernel?08:47
Ace2005uniq: Well it was a new konsole tab so it should have started at home shouldn't it? so how come the error?08:47
Skeez187*skeez*08:47
Skeez187*skeez*08:47
obf213!mp3 >nalpha08:47
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TehKewl1I need to get a mono app that uses glade to run08:49
TehKewl1how do I do that without breaking packages08:49
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uniqAce2005: that depends. you can save paths in the sessions in konsole.08:51
uniqhave to go to work. see you later kubuntuers.08:51
TehKewl1cya08:51
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Ace2005bye08:52
han_Anybody familiar with Kino?08:53
TehKewl1ummm08:53
TehKewl1a bit08:53
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TehKewl1I prefer avid if I wanna do some serious video editing but..... it's windows and mac only08:53
han_how to install the raw 1394 module/ I am in my first hour with kubuntu08:54
TehKewl1ooh thats a bit out of my league08:54
TehKewl1I dunno08:54
han_:-(08:54
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obf213!network09:00
ubotuI know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:00
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obf213anyone know wht to do to view comps in network09:00
MilhousePunkRockAny progress on KDE 3.5.4 so far?09:01
MilhousePunkRock!e17 > MilhousePunkRock09:01
obf213MilhousePunkRock what does nalpha need to do to see computers in her network09:02
MilhousePunkRockobf213: I know nothing about networking.09:02
obf213k09:03
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cpk2you see comps in a network using samba09:05
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|lostbyte|Good Morning 2 All.09:09
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sF|Xemanth"3.5.4 broken in dapper" :~/09:12
sF|Xemanthhow its broken ?09:14
koshnobody told me09:15
rr72loll breazy works09:16
rikiohhow do i set firefox as my default browser in kubuntu09:16
rikiohthat way when i click links it uses firefox09:17
zanhow can i change the refresh rate from 75Hz to 60Hz on a TFT?09:18
koshrikioh: you will probably regret it later but open kcontrol -> kde components -> default applications -> web browser and set it to firefox09:19
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: System settings --> Personal / KDE components...09:19
rikiohis there a reason i will regret it.. cuz if i will i wont do it09:19
_rince_mrgn09:19
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: ... Default applications --> Web browser09:19
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MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Konqueror is better integrated into KDE, but besides that, it's only a matter of your personal taste...09:20
koshbecause it means that if you ever want to use konqueror for anything it pretty much won't work since links will go to firefox when clicked09:20
essalsF|Xemanth: http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README09:20
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koshit is better to just open firefox and use that and leave the default alone if you realy want to use firefox09:20
koshopera and konqueror are both far lighter on resources then firefox is also but they all have little quirks09:21
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koshpretty much equally compatible though09:21
MilhousePunkRockkosh: For me Konqueror was awfully slow09:21
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MilhousePunkRockkosh: And Fx didn't run as fast as it did on Winblows, so I chose Opera09:22
koshMilhousePunkRock: that is pretty strange, they all have nearly the same rendering speed and startup speed09:22
koshhowever firefox has a larger memor footprint by a lot09:22
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nalphaanyone know how to monitor the queue of printer in my network???09:23
MilhousePunkRockkosh: I thought it might be related to IPv6, but disabling that didn't help Konqi being faster09:23
MilhousePunkRockIs anyone using e17?09:23
acknorola09:23
koshI don't have ipv6 support on my kernel right now09:24
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MilhousePunkRockkosh: So you "rolled your own"?09:24
sF|Xemanthhow can i install web printer in kde? i have shared printer in winblows09:25
rikiohadept doesnt wanna open :( ..... it asks me for the password i enter it then it does nothing09:25
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MilhousePunkRockrikioh: That happens to me sometimes too, restarting KDE might help09:26
MilhousePunkRockh3sp4wn, Hawkwind, Healot, Hobbsee... Someone beginning with H is running e17, I've been told?!?!09:27
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: defintely not me09:29
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MilhousePunkRockOk, Hobbsee09:30
koshMilhousePunkRock: yeah, lots of stuff on my system is customized09:30
koshMilhousePunkRock: I have a mix of kubuntu dapper, sid and some custom things09:30
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MilhousePunkRockkosh: Nice... I will probably compile my own kernel too some day, but not yet, I am still a little unsure if I can do that...09:31
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koshheh I learned how to do it when it was pretty much the only choice09:33
koshI mostly do it now since I want newer stuff the kubuntu packages09:33
Skeez187*skeez*09:33
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buzmhh what's broken about 3.5.4 in dapper? seems to work for me anyhow09:34
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: do you have java integrated into your web browser?09:34
essalbuz: http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README09:34
zanwhere's the KDE Theme in KDE 3.5.2 Kubuntu 6.06?09:34
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MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Yes09:35
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: with konqueror or?09:35
zan!theme09:35
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy09:35
zan!kdetheme09:35
ubotuI know nothing about kdetheme - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:35
zanwhere's the KDE Theme in KDE 3.5.2 Kubuntu 6.06?09:36
buzi dont like kubuntu-default-settings anyway *EG*09:36
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Works for all browsers09:36
|lostbyte|zen: kcontrol09:36
MilhousePunkRock!java09:36
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:36
zanaha09:36
buzdoesnt seem to me any bad so far09:36
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: ok well i finally got it to install sun-java5-bin tonight but its not browser integrated09:36
MilhousePunkRockbuz: Who does?09:36
zan10x a lot... i tried k-control :))09:36
buzMilhousePunkRock: the bug in kde 3.5.409:37
nalphahwo to start samba after install it??09:37
MilhousePunkRockbuz: That was about the default settings... Linux is pretty powerful for customization, freedom of choice09:37
buzah ok09:38
buzthats why i use it ;)09:38
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: That was the first thing I did after installing, I can't recall how I did it though09:38
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Did you enable Java in the Browser settings?09:38
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zanhow do i set a login theme? where should i go?09:40
__osh__MilhousePunkRock: kde3.5.4 is availible as debs?09:40
emonkey-pyes it is09:40
MilhousePunkRockzan: You need to install kdmtheme09:40
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: when i try to link the browser to the java executable what should the file extension be? for the java executable09:40
emonkey-pbut there are problems with settings09:41
zan10x :D09:41
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: I really don't know, sorry09:41
__osh__emonkey: what problems?09:41
fritsch__osh__: please just wait some hours09:41
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MilhousePunkRockzan: Once you installed it, it will be located in System Settings, you point kdmtheme to the archive you downloaded09:41
fritsch__osh__: this is already fixed, but packages need to be uploaded09:42
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MilhousePunkRockIs it only a matter of hours, fritsch? Ah, nice...09:42
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fritschMilhousePunkRock: have got the working packages yesterday, working as expected09:42
buzMilhousePunkRock: because it doesnt live in repositories09:43
zanMilhousePunkRock: thanks a lot! :D09:43
fritschMilhousePunkRock: but there are other dependency problems09:43
__osh__fritsch: will do. I'm just curious. I usually don't install stuff with known bugs in them. if I can help it.09:43
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buz3.5.4 actually has one noticeable bug less: basket integration into kontact now doesn't crash ;)09:43
MilhousePunkRockzan: You're welcome... Took me quite a while to figure out the archive is the actual theme file...09:43
__osh__MilhousePunkRock: You probably need to add a new repository.09:43
Skeez187*skeez*09:43
fritschjust wait until the topic changes09:44
buzMilhousePunkRock: read http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README first09:44
MilhousePunkRockfritsch: I thought it was in the repos already, since so many people updated already...09:44
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MilhousePunkRockbuz: Yeah, I saw that already...09:44
fritschbuz: this is fixed, but as i said, new packages have to be uploaded09:44
Skeez187*skeez*09:44
buzfritsch: ah09:44
buzvery well then09:44
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fritschi think it really won`t last too long09:45
fritschtopic has already changed in kde-devel :-)09:45
MilhousePunkRockI know KDE has many changes "under the hood", but is there anything new I will actually notice?09:46
Skeez187*skeez*09:46
MilhousePunkRockSkeez187: Is there anything else you can say?09:46
buzMilhousePunkRock: seems like the session stuff in kate is back09:46
fritschMilhousePunkRock: mmmh, the changelog looks very impressive09:46
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: i figured it out it was usr/lib/jvm/sun-java/bin/java09:47
fritschMilhousePunkRock: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_3to3_5_4.php09:47
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morrowgood morning09:48
MilhousePunkRockSkeez187: Your name is kinda offensive, you might wanna change it to keep this channel family friendly...09:49
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__osh__Is there something similar to workrave for KDE? Something that doesn't require 45MB extra to install?09:50
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__osh__MilhousePunkRock: skeez is offensive? I must be out of touch with english slang. What does it mean?09:51
rikiohsame and i live in usa09:51
TehKewl1xfce?09:51
TehKewl1oh wait workrave09:51
MilhousePunkRock__osh__ rikioh: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skeez09:51
MilhousePunkRockThe normal dictionary didn't even find it...09:51
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zanMilhousePunkRock: do i have to restart kde?09:52
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rikiohwow i didnt know that09:52
davinHi, im trying to install my graphics drivers but I get an error, it is quite big so ill put it on pastecode.com09:52
MilhousePunkRockzan: Yes... Since you changed the login, you won't notice a difference within KDE09:52
zanMilhousePunkRock: i don't see the kdmtheme in system settings :(09:52
__osh__MilhousePunkRock: thanks09:53
zanMilhousePunkRock: that's why i was asking :(09:53
davinMy problem: http://www.pastecode.com/248209:53
MilhousePunkRockzan: It should be there after a restart, sorry, got you wrong...09:53
MilhousePunkRockrikioh, __osh__ Not #5 and #8...09:53
eeoshi there. I have difficulties with intel hda audio card. kubuntu 606 does not identify the intergrated microphone. Mandriva 2006 does, so it is not a linux problem.09:53
eeosany clue?09:53
MilhousePunkRockrikioh, __osh__ Note* #5 and #8...09:53
=== zan thanks MilhousePunkRock for the help! :D
MilhousePunkRockzan: YW09:54
davinIt looks like I need the 'libc development package'09:54
rikiohah i was actually thinking it was probably 8. the famouse lil john word09:54
__osh__MilhousePunkRock: right. I got the general idea.09:54
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MilhousePunkRockProbably 9 is what he wants... Combined with 187, the police radio code for murder IIRC09:55
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rikiohdoes ktorrent do a pretty decent job ?09:56
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: I had 2b, that wasn't exactly stable...09:57
davinso what is this libc development package09:57
davinisnt it a c compiler?09:57
MilhousePunkRocklol there was the guy with the nice part message again09:57
gplfighterhi09:57
rikiohmilhouse i actually know that guy :(09:57
MilhousePunkRockI always notice him when he leaves, Hobbsee suggested to ask him to change his part message...09:58
gplfighteri've updated to kde 3.5.4, but now my icons on my desktop are very big. how can is set the size?09:58
rikiohill ask him cuz he participates on another server i know of09:58
MilhousePunkRockNice...09:58
rikiohmilhouse do you have a recommended torrent program then09:59
MilhousePunkRockgplfighter: That could be because 3.5.4 is somewhat broken in dapper09:59
rikiohor should i jsut give them all a whirl :)09:59
gplfighterMilhousePunkRock: can i change the size?09:59
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Stay away from BitComet, that's for sure... Azureus is powerful, but really bloated (plus running on java)10:00
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: If you have Wine, you could try Torrent, it's supposed to run perfectly there10:00
MilhousePunkRockTorrent is by far my favorite BT client10:00
rikiohill research wine cuz im not ever sure what it is ( your dealing with a first timer ) :)10:01
TheGateKeepergplfighter: here is your 'get out of jail free card' for when it all ends in tears :-) http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.010:01
rikioh!wine10:01
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:01
MilhousePunkRockKTorrent isnt that bad after all10:01
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gplfighterok, but there is only 1 thing... that **** icons10:01
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: If you want a bleeding edge version of Wine, there is a nice script to compile it10:01
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TheGateKeepersorry don't know how to fix your icons10:02
gplfighterok, thaanks10:02
Hobbseewhat about the icons?10:02
Hobbseeah10:03
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: not registered but i will do it right now10:03
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=== Hobbsee doesnt use 3.5.4 on dapper
MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Than I could send you the WineCVS script10:03
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tsumebroken in dapper? :10:03
rikiohmilhousepunkrock: ok im registered send away10:03
TheGateKeeperI would have thought the size of the icons are related to the resolution, and although 3.5.4 may have fixed bugs, seems like they also created some to make it unusable10:04
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MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Accept10:04
MistaEDMilhousePunkRock: i second that with utorrent, it's working fine under wine10:05
Kabal3.5.4 broken in dapper.. Where can I find more info about this?10:05
TheGateKeepertsume: KDE 3.5.410:05
tsumeTheGateKeeper: what is included on the shipit cds?10:05
nalphasimple question can we connect to mirc network with this Konversation??10:05
TheGateKeepertsume: nope 3.5.3 is the current default10:06
rr73nalpha~ sh u woke me up10:06
rr73;) off to bed for me10:06
rr73peace out all10:06
Riddellnalpha: yes (they are both IRC programmes)10:06
tsumeTheGateKeeper: alright :) then I won't get burned by ordering these kubuntu cds :)10:06
RiddellKabal: with any luck it'll be fixed later today10:06
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krautmoin10:06
Kabalah oke thanx Riddell :) I will wait :)10:06
TheGateKeepertsume: no you should always get something that is stable, there will probable be updates to do after you install10:07
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tsumeTheGateKeeper: just making sure :)10:08
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MilhousePunkRockAlthough it's slightly offtopic, but why do "wiki style" webpages look weird in my Opery?10:09
MilhousePunkRockOpera that is, of course10:09
zanfor what do the % parameters stand for: krusader %i %m -caption "%c" ?10:10
jorikMilhousePunkRock, did you recently upgrade your opera ?10:10
eeosI need to recompile kernel on a amd 64 computer where there are ia32 libraries. Does that change anything?10:10
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TheGateKeeperMilhousePunkRock: Firefox is the king :-) www.worldfirefoxday.com/en/10:11
MilhousePunkRockjorik: I installed it two days ago, deb from opera.no10:12
MilhousePunkRockTheGateKeeper: No, it's not... :-P10:12
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MilhousePunkRockI can define "weird" a little more: Fonts are really small, everything is somewhat pressed together..10:13
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nalphai put some folder and file to garbage bin, the question is where is the garbage bin???10:15
nalphai put some folder and file to garbage bin, the question is where is the garbage bin??? in ubuntu10:15
rikiohmine is in the bottom right of my screen :)10:15
TheGateKeepernalpha: for me bottom right hand corner10:15
zandoes anyone know for what do the % parameters stand for in the following command: krusader %i %m -caption "%c" ?10:15
eeosI need to recompile kernel on amd 64 computer where there are ia32 libraries. Does that change anything?10:16
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deinkde 3.5.4 doesnt work in kubuntu?10:17
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TheGateKeeperdein: correct: www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.010:18
deini havent upgraded yet, was actually looking for how to10:19
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deinbut ill wait now i guess :)10:19
deinbtw, does kde 3.5.4 perform better on most distros so far?10:19
cpk2how do you know what kde version you ahve?10:20
cpk2have*10:20
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MilhousePunkRockcpk2: Help --> About KDE in most applications, e.g. here in Konversation10:20
deinkde 3.5.3 is default for dapper10:20
cpk2using gaim =X10:20
MilhousePunkRockjorik: Take a look at this: http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto5rw5.png10:21
deiner nvm kde 3.5.2 is10:21
deinif you havent upgraded your kde, its probably safe to say you're running 3.5.210:21
cpk2yup i have .310:21
cpk2well wasnt sure if it was in the repos when you do upgrade10:22
TheGateKeeperdein: I have 3.5.310:22
deinguess im the only one with .2 then 0.o10:22
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cpk2err i meant .210:22
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cpk2typo heh10:22
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TheGateKeepercorrection I am also on 3.5.210:23
deinlol10:23
deinanyone know what repositories to add for 3.5.3, and if it's stable in kubuntu now?10:24
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deinwhen it first came out i remember it had some bugs10:24
MilhousePunkRock.3 is stable, and shouldn't that be in the official repos?10:24
deinit isnt, because it hasnt upgraded my system yet10:25
eeosdein: just add  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main10:25
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eeosdein: did you get it?10:25
deink10:25
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eeosI need to recompile kernel on a amd 64 computer where there are ia32 libraries. Does that change anything?10:25
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maurinalpha: did you manage to find it?10:26
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deini wouldnt know, i still dont use 64 even though i have a comp with a 64 processor10:26
deinjust not supported enough yet10:26
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MilhousePunkRockHey abattoir10:26
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hello :)10:27
eeosdein: it was a question to everybody?10:27
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rikiohabattoir i got java working thanks to milhouses idea :)10:29
rikiohi dunno why i never thought of it10:29
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rikiohbut instead of trying to find a plugin all i had to do was open my browser go to setup and change the java link to sunjava/bin/java10:29
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cpk2my wired box is having connectivity problems but my wireless one if fine...10:35
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cpk2is*10:35
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cpk2interesting10:36
kyle_is there any way to seach an ip adress of the person u are talking to on amsn?10:36
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cpk2nalpha: samba is in the main repo i think10:36
MilhousePunkRock!info samba10:36
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB10:36
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cpk2btw nalpha i just now got your pm, better to just ask in the channel10:37
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kyle_is there or not? neone know?10:37
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MilhousePunkRockkyle_: Most likely not...10:37
MilhousePunkRockkyle_: Although I remember there were "hacking tools" do to that for ICQ...10:38
eeoswhat repository to download the new Edgy kernel? I do not seem to find it.10:38
Skeez187*skeez*10:38
kyle_hmmm, ok I'll just report this guy to msn then, they should have a log of it correct? someone hacked into my riends msn and is on it right now, deleted all her contacts, changed her password and is sayin some not so nice things lol10:38
MilhousePunkRockkyle_: That wasn't hacking, that was only a weak password, or a trojan...10:39
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kyle_Milhousepunkrock: yaya whatever lol, i remember the exploits of icq too, it's what made me use it and stop using it at the same time lol, and ya u r right, but it still shouldn't be done10:41
MilhousePunkRockkyle_: The beautiful world of Windows...10:41
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MilhousePunkRockkyle_: You could try to report it, but I wonder how much M$ actually cares about that...10:42
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cpk2i would be flattered if someone actually cared enough to try to do something malicious to me10:43
MilhousePunkRockcpk2: I don't think those script kiddies care about _who_ they do it to...10:43
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kyle_Milhousepunkrock: haha ya, right :P and ya it's not even mine so i don't really care enough to anywayz... althought i did get reported to telus one time someone tracked my ip on their computer when it shouldn't have been.... damn windows and having the ip search funtion lol10:44
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MilhousePunkRocklol10:44
deinok i just got done upgrading to kde 3.5.3 and ive gotta say, its a major boost in speed10:44
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cotrolerhow to upgrade to kde 3.5.3  dien?10:45
deinone sec10:45
deindeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main10:46
deinadd that to your repos10:46
cpk2kde only gives 30 results on the wiki10:47
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deincurrently at least two packages are down10:47
_gplfighter_i'm  donwgrading noww to 3.5.310:48
ricardohi everybody...i get this msg with adept updater:10:48
deinkubuntu-docs and libnautilus-extension both return 404 errors10:48
ricardoThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.10:48
ricardoany ideas???10:48
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deinya, those two packages are down10:49
deinthats why10:49
cotrolerhow do you check which kde version you have???????10:49
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deingo into any kde app, click help, and about kde10:49
deinif you havent knowingly upgraded kde, then you have kde 3.5.210:50
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cotrolerW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508810:52
cotrolerW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:52
pradeepto!java10:53
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:53
cotroleri ran apt-get update nothong happened10:53
DevGetHi all! I got an error when I switched from ubuntu to kubuntu about that dpkg can't remove  scim-gtk2-immodule because10:53
DevGet/usr/sbin/update-gtk-immodules: line 1: a: command not found10:53
DevGetdpkg: error processing scim-gtk2-immodule (--remove):10:53
DevGetwhat to do?10:53
nalphawhat's the address of dal.net "mirc"???10:54
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TheGateKeepertry using apitude from the cli, or synaptic to see if there any broken packages and try removing (or reinstalling) if there are10:57
TheGateKeeperDevGet: ^^^^10:57
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ricardoi have just added these repos in my sources:11:00
ricardodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main restricted11:00
ricardodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main restricted11:00
ricardonow i get 90 upgrades!! is that good or not so? should i proceed?11:00
noiesmoricardo, thats ok might be a lot of kde updates11:02
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ricardonoiesmo: ok...so i have a question...whats the difference between puttin just main or main restricted ?11:03
noiesmo!restricted11:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:03
DevGetTheGateKeeper: seems to work, thx11:04
ricardonoiesmo: so there is no sense adding restricted to kde repos since they are all free?11:04
noiesmoricardo, restricted gives you access to apps and packages ubuntu can not ship with ubuntu due to licence issues generally11:04
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noiesmoricardo, probably not for kde but cant hurt11:05
ricardonoiesmo: ok...thanks!11:05
noiesmoricardo, np :)11:05
TheGateKeeperDevGet: please to hear it. yw :-)11:05
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cpk2dein: do you actually need to get the key to use that repo?11:09
deinnot that ive seen11:09
deini used adept to upgrade tho11:10
cpk2hmm apt-get just told me i need the key11:10
deintry dpkg?11:10
cpk2to update i need the key, its ok they give it to you at the kubuntu forum11:11
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rikiohok heres a pretty good question i installed kubuntu twice on this hdd... so i have 2 copies of kubuntu on one 250 gig hdd... is there a way for me to format that partition and add it to my original kubuntu partition?11:12
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rikiohadd the extra gigs of space11:12
nick__hello i just dowloaded boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh but how do i install it now?11:13
cpk2rofl dein after adding that one repo i need 137 packages to upgrade11:14
MilhousePunkRocknick__: type "sude sh boinc.....sh" on a shell11:14
MilhousePunkRocknick__: replace the ..... with the rest of the name though11:14
rikiohsudo :)11:14
kyle_hey, i updated my kde to 3.5.3 or w/e and it won't update the kdelibs-data... does anyone know why this might be?11:14
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nick__what's a shell? srr it's my second day with kubuntu11:14
MilhousePunkRockoh, yeah, sudO it is, thx rikioh11:14
MilhousePunkRocka console?11:14
MilhousePunkRockor terminal?11:15
cpk2kyle_: i am updating right now too, i'll see if i get the same problem11:15
MilhousePunkRockKMenu --> System --> Console11:15
nick__and there i typ that sue thing11:15
nick__sude11:15
kyle_cpk2: haha alright :P how long left?11:16
noiesmorikioh, you could use qtparted or add the extra partition to /etc/fstab and then access the extra space that way11:16
cpk214 minutes =\11:16
cpk2its only going at about 135 kB/s11:16
kyle_slow mine went at like 35011:17
rikiohok ty noiesmo i will look into that11:17
kyle_which still isn't that fast, but faster then urs :P11:17
cpk2my wireless card might be bottlenecking it11:17
nick__bash: sude: command not found11:17
rikiohnick its sudo11:17
rikiohnot sude11:17
rikioh:)11:17
nick__oeps srr11:17
kyle_ya my wireless card paused up my computer when i tried to get it to work so i said screw it and ran a wire lol11:17
rikiohim new too man no worries ;)11:17
Skeez187*skeez*11:17
MilhousePunkRock!ops11:18
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak11:18
cpk2got my desktop wired and only one outlet in the wall11:18
imbrandonyes?11:18
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nick__sh: boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh: Onbekend bestand of map11:18
cpk2MilhousePunkRock: getting annoyed with that Skeez187 guy?11:18
imbrandonMilhousePunkRock: ?11:18
MilhousePunkRockThere is something fishy about Skeez187, all he says is *skeez* every once in a while, besides that his name is offensive11:18
gplfighternick__: mss beter op #ubuntu-nl11:19
MilhousePunkRockexactly cpk211:19
nick__kheb dara al dood gezocht!!11:19
imbrandonSkeez187: is there a problem ?11:19
nick__moet ik die gedownl. file ergens specifiek zetten?11:19
cpk2he was almost spamming it earlier...11:20
gplfighternick__: heb je een jabber, msn of iets dergelijks?11:20
Lynoure!nl11:20
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ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl11:20
MilhousePunkRocknick__: You need to either switch to the path where the shell script is, or define the path when you execute it... And keept it English her11:20
imbrandonhrm he seems to have hushed, if it becomes a problem !ops again11:20
LynoureEven thoguh I don't really mind it myself, personally (as I'm trying to study Dutch)11:20
MilhousePunkRockroger that, imbrandon... Thanks11:21
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rikiohi love how fast the op system thingy is here that seems very nice and secure :)11:21
kyle_I'm suppose to work in 4 hours... gggrrrrr11:22
MilhousePunkRockKinda smart that uboto mentiones the ops names..11:22
rikiohyes whoever made the script or whatever it is wrote it well it seems11:22
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MilhousePunkRockrikioh: It's a bot11:23
rikiohthats what i meant :)11:23
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rikiohbrb mountain dew refill :_11:24
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rikiohhahah everytime i go to look at my torrent it has stalled and right as im about to stop and restart the torrent to get it going again it starts downloading :)11:25
rikiohits done that 4 times in a row11:25
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MilhousePunkRockrikioh: Make sure you optimize your settings, there is a guide for it on utorrent.com11:27
rikiohMilhousePunkRock: ok i will thank you11:27
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TheHighChildanyone have a Motorola Razr?11:28
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deinme11:30
rikiohTheHighChild: i have a slvr pretty much the same thing11:30
rikiohsame phone just doesnt flip11:31
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deinwhich means its ghetto11:31
deinlol11:31
rikiohno11:31
deinj/k  '.'11:31
rikiohits an mp3 player too with itunes it was like 340 usd -_-11:32
rikiohi kinda regret getting it though for the price11:32
deini got mine for 70$11:32
deinspecial corporate discount11:33
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deinwould've been free, but my credit wasn't good enough -.-11:33
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jozzephhello11:35
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serenityhi11:36
serenitydoes anyone know where to get this http://www.raphink.info/talks/2006/05-LinuxTag/html/slide_1.html Design?11:36
jozzephi cannot install any plugins for ktorrent11:36
cpk2dein: the kde upgrade had to change grub file?11:36
jozzepherror message: signal \: 6 (SIGABRT)11:36
jozzephcannot find it until now11:37
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jozzephupgrades are functioning normally11:37
dein??? dunno11:37
deini havent done a hard reboot yet, just restarted the xserver11:38
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bioticproanyone here run xmame?11:38
cpk2i just happened to check the status right when it was playing with my grub11:38
deinme11:38
RawSewageit was a big update today11:38
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deinwhat was?11:39
RawSewagelots of things11:39
RawSewagemainly GNOME though11:39
cpk2restarting x is so annoying11:39
cpk2i'm too lazy to restart it11:39
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deinerr, ctrl +alt backspace is all you need to do11:40
cpk2yeah but then i gotta start it back up11:40
deinand its alot faster than an actual reboot11:40
cpk2plus sometimes my screen loses output11:40
dein?.?11:40
jozzephshould i send an error rapport to the author?11:40
ndazzaare there any mirrors of security.ubuntu.com?11:40
cpk2<--- very lazy11:40
deinyou shouldnt need to start kde >.>11:41
deinmine restarts automatically11:41
jozzephinternal inconsequence it sais11:41
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cpk2and if my screen loses output then i do have to do an actual reboot11:41
ricardohi everybody...huge problem here!11:41
deinbtw, a linux image upgrade is up11:41
ndazzai wonder if they'll have linux-restricted-modules for this one11:42
deinis it gonna break my settings for nvidia? i hope not11:42
jozzephdoes anyone workt with ktorrent?11:42
deini dont work on it, but i use it11:42
jozzephok11:42
jozzephhave u got the plugins then?11:42
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ricardoi hava just upgraded to kde3.5.4 and i have no kmenu whatsoever...no different desktops...11:43
jozzephthrough wine?11:43
ricardonothing...11:43
hsn_how can i switch kubuntu from english to czech?11:43
deinthe ones that come with 2.0 beta ya11:43
dein3.5.4 is broken11:43
deindowngrade when possible11:43
TheHighChildrikioh: Are you able to mount it under linux?11:43
jozzeph- hsn i think when starting rhe install pushing F211:43
ndazzahsn_: see the link in the topic about known problems11:43
MilhousePunkRock!wine > jozzeph11:43
ricardodein: how do i do that?11:43
deininstalling a localization package should do it11:44
ricardothere also a new kernel installed...11:44
Skeez187*skeez*11:44
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TheHighChildhsn kmenu > system settings > regional & accessibility > country/regio11:44
MilhousePunkRock!ops11:44
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak11:44
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deinRicardo: not sure, the others have a good link tho11:44
rikiohthehighchild: mount what under linux?11:44
TheHighChildrikioh: Your slvr11:44
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TheHighChildI want to be able to mount it and remove all the preloaded crap11:44
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rikiohthehighchild: you mean like access it with bluetooth? or?11:45
MilhousePunkRockGood Job, Riddel!11:45
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cpk2hooray!11:45
cpk2heh11:45
cpk2sorry but that guy was annoying11:45
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MilhousePunkRockI don't think it even was a guy...11:46
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cpk2well that bot* was annoying11:46
TheHighChildrikioh: I don't have bluetooth. I want to use the USB cable11:46
rikiohthehighchild: let me try real fast11:46
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MilhousePunkRockCU everyone11:46
deincya11:46
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bepetemishHello all.. i got some problems with my linux11:47
cpk2bepetemish: i'm sure we all do at one point or another11:48
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bepetemishi got an dual boot on my computer  windows xp/Kubuntu  so i want to check my windows folders in linux but how? i can check my linux folders in windows already11:49
ndazzabepetemish: by check, you mean view the contents?11:49
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bepetemishyou know.. looking at my folders11:50
bepetemishlike games i installed on windows11:50
ndazzayou're unlikely to be able to run windows games under linux...11:50
ndazzapress alt+f2 and run media:/11:51
ndazzais your windows partition visible there?11:51
cpk2you can run windows games under linux11:51
ricardohow can i downgrade???11:51
ndazzacpk2: depends on the game, not out of the box, usually not natively :)11:51
cpk2wine fixes everything11:51
rikiohthehighchild; yes it mounted usb under system menu -> storage media11:52
cpk2plus some really good games are native11:52
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agresorHello guys.. I have Ubuntu 5.10  Brezzy.. Can i get kde from Kubuntu cd ?11:52
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Four23619true, but there are still many games that dont work well / at all under wine11:52
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ndazzawine chokes on many installers and some games. but yeah, a few games are native11:52
bepetemishmy windows partition is visible but when i select it it says :   mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:52
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bepetemishndazza>11:53
ndazzaagresor: if your machine is on the internet, you should be able to installl the package kubuntu-desktop to get a working kde install11:53
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cpk2bepetemish: so add it to fstab?11:53
ndazzabepetemish: edit the file /etc/fstab and look for a line like this: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:54
ndazzaif it isn't there add it. change hda1 to sda111:54
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bepetemishok i go take a look11:54
agresorndazza,  but my internet is too slow..11:54
agresorand i have to get 400 mb :(11:54
ndazzaagresor: ahh. from a console, run sudo apt-cdrom /media/cdrom11:55
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ndazza(with the cd in the drive)11:55
ndazzathen try again11:55
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TheHighChildanyone know how to mount a Motorola Razr?11:58
bepetemishis this ok ndazza?  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:59
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ndazzabepetmish: change hda1 to sda1 (you have sata drives right?)11:59
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bepetemishwhat to do now?  umount and mount?12:01
arcusbah. konversation is not executing these commands I've put in when I log in to a server.12:01
arcuswhy would that be, I wonder? any ideas?12:01
ndazzaarcus: are they to chanserv/nickserv?12:01
arcusa msg to nickserv, yes.12:01
ndazzaarcus: you could try /msg chanserv <command> instead of /chanserv <command>12:02
arcusseems exactly the same as the example in the manual12:02
arcusthat's what I have, /msg nickserv ident <password>12:02
ndazzaarcus: if you are trying to auto-identify that can be configured in your profile options i think12:02
rikiohcan amarok not play .mp3 files?12:02
ndazzaarcus: try identify instead of ident12:02
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agresorndazza,12:03
ndazzarikioh: mp3 is a restricted format. there's a way to get it to play... uh...12:03
agresorroot@agresor:/home/agresor# apt-cdrom /media/cdrom12:03
agresorE: Invalid operation /media/cdrom12:03
ndazza!restrictedformats12:03
cpk2!mp312:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:03
ndazzaagresor: oops, wrong syntax12:03
ndazzatry apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom12:04
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ricardoplease help! kde 354 repos upgrade have made a mess on my box...how can i get back??12:05
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rikiohwhats the keyboard command for opening programs again12:06
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hermanafternoon all12:07
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hermanlots of excitement here lol12:08
bepetemishndazza after i done what you said what to do now?12:08
mettledkHi12:08
mettledkI was wondering whether some of you could help me with a little problem in kubuntu?12:09
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cpk2!ask12:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:09
mettledk:)12:09
mettledkWell - its about my network12:09
ndazzarikioh: alt+f212:09
dorotaheelo ;)12:09
mettledkWhen I boot up the kernel seems to prefer the sky2 driver, but it is defect12:09
ndazzabepetemish: try clicking on the drive again in media:/12:09
mettledkI have downloaded and installed a driver from Marvel12:10
deinanyone know what the point of the kernel upgrade was? other than security?12:10
bepetemish         ndazza: it says  only root can mout ....12:10
mettledkThis driver works but I have to rmmod skyh2 and modprobe the other each time on boot12:10
mettledkHow do I assign the new driver to the eth0 and eth112:11
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mettledkdein: I noticed the nvidia driver was no longer in the kernel12:11
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bepetemishndazza: it says  only root can mout......     how can i mount as root?12:12
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dein????12:12
mark_hello?12:12
deinmine still works12:12
cpk2bepetemish: do it as sudo...12:12
ndazzabepetemish: ok try this from a console: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda112:12
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mark_i just wanted to ask a little question i haven't found on any forum yet12:13
pequatrehi everyone. just a quick question: i've prelinked KDE and set cron.daily and so on but i'm told to add KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 in /etc/environment. Is this the right file ? cheers.12:13
deinmettledk: your nvidia driver was killed?12:13
cpk2!ask12:13
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:13
mettledkyes12:13
mark_ok12:13
bepetemishndazza now it says this..  mount: mount point /mnt/sda1 does not exist12:13
deinmettledk: all i did to fix mine was a quick sudo nvidia-xconfig12:13
cpk2does apt-get change grub for you when you update the kernel?12:14
egarimwhy in kubuntu amule doesn't have the webserver support ?12:14
ndazzacpk2: yes12:14
mark_yesterday i managed to get some sound of my "ca0106"-thingy and was rather glad but when i rebooted it didn't even show in the volume control and modprobe snd-ca0106 doesn't change anything12:14
mettledkgotta go a few minuttes...12:15
deinok im goin to bed12:15
ndazzabepetemish: check what mount points are in /mnt and /media. this might give you an idea of which is your windows partition12:15
pequatreneed to reboot. bye.12:15
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ndazzabepetemish: if you are sure it's sda1 you can go ahead and create it: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda112:15
ndazzabepetemish: oops make that sudo mkdir /mnt/sda112:15
hermani am looking for a package to install the driver for a trust spacecam 320. Does such a package exist or do i have to compile?12:15
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rikioh!mp312:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:16
hermanok thx12:16
mark_i just don't understand how the card can vanish12:17
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bioticproHey all, how do fix the konq problem of, when you want to download a file, it asks to save as, then the file name gets changed to download.php instead of the acutal file name12:17
cpk2mark_: is it in lspci?12:17
mark_yes it is12:17
mark_as a12:17
mark_Audigy something LS12:17
cpk2so it didnt vanish =P12:17
mettledkdein: Well as far as I could see last night, the driver I was using was from the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic package12:17
ndazzaah while we're on the topic:12:17
mark_it's only hiding?12:17
ndazzamy wireless pci card *did* vanish12:17
mettledkdein: and I could not find any linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26* packages...12:17
ndazzalspci doesn't show it12:17
bepetemishndazza i maked it but still cant enter my windows folders12:18
cpk2ndazza: is it connected all the way?12:18
mark_0000:01:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS12:18
cpk2so modprobe that12:18
ndazzacpk2: seems to be. the lights on the back are on. i tried 2 different slots12:18
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mark_as sudo?12:19
ndazzabepetemish: what error do you get when you run sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda112:19
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mark_maybe i have to sorta restart alsa?12:19
cpk2!sound12:19
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems12:19
bepetemishndazza i get no errors12:20
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ndazzabepetemish: open up konqueror and navigate to /mnt/sda1, all your files should be there12:21
ndazzabepetemish: be aware that you won't be able to write to the drive out of the box because microsoft hasn't released the specs for ntfs12:21
mark_modprobe doesn't make the card show up in the volume control12:21
cpk2!modprobe12:22
ubotuI know nothing about modprobe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:22
cpk2!info modprobe12:22
ubotuPackage modprobe does not exist in dapper12:22
egarimwhich is the default mailserve in kubuntu ?12:22
mark_mark@ubuntu:~$ !modprobe    modprobe snd-ca010612:22
bepetemishndazza when i navigate to /mnt/sda1 i get a message saying this: You do not have access rights to this location12:22
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ndazza!info modutils12:22
ubotumodutils: Linux module utilities. In repository main, is extra. Version 2.4.27.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 227 kB, installed size 736 kB12:22
agresor!modproble webcam eye12:22
agresor;D12:22
ubotuI know nothing about modproble webcam eye - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:22
mark_so i install modutils?12:23
agresor!modproble genius-webcam12:23
ubotuI know nothing about modproble genius-webcam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:23
ndazzaegarim: i think it may be exim12:23
cpk2mark_: whats the card manufactuerer?12:23
agresor!modproble genius12:23
ubotuI know nothing about modproble genius - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:23
mark_umm12:23
cpk2no i think its postfix12:23
cpk2exim i know isnt default12:23
mark_i think it's onboard so it'd be nvidia ?12:23
ndazzabepetemish: oh, right. from a console run sudo mount /mnt/sda1 -o remount,user12:23
cpk2almost 100%12:23
mark_or msi?12:23
ndazzacpk2: you're probably right. i'm going on debian's default12:24
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mark_you see it worked yesterday! that's what i don't get!12:24
ricardohelp! how can i downgrade from kde 3.5.4 to kde 3.5.3???12:24
cpk2mark_: what did you change then?12:25
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egarimricardo: have problem ?12:25
bepetemishndazza when i do that it says nothing12:25
bepetemishis that ok?12:25
mark_i don't know at all!12:25
cpk2ricardo: you might be able to remove kde and then install it12:25
ndazzabepetemish: yeah that's ok, try viewing the files again12:25
mark_i installed kde...12:25
mark_aaand I deleted one folder with alsa drivers i didn't install12:26
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egarimwhat does it mean broken in dapper ?12:26
egarimwhat does it mean broken in dapper ? 3.4.5 doesn't works ?12:27
ricardoegarim: cpk2: i added the 3.5.4 repos and i got 90 upgradable packages (including some kernel updates..)  i upgraded and now i dont have kmenu nor a decent taskbar...12:27
bepetemishndazza: when i do /mnt/sda1 it says i have no access rights, when i do media:/ it just says could not enter forum12:27
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ndazzaegarim: yes. if you install it in dapper things will crash/be missing/not work12:27
ricardocpk2: how do i safely remove it?12:27
TheHighChildegarim: I saw my audio juicer was broke, I upgraded it and everything el;se was fine12:27
cpk2ricardo: i dunno purge kde or something, not entirely sure12:28
gnomefreak!kubuntu > ricardo12:28
mark_how can i restart alsa?12:28
gnomefreakricardo: read your pm there are instuctions in there12:28
cpk2mark_: you deleted alsa drivers?12:28
rikiohis there a known reason why adept doesnt fully load on some peoples machines sometimes?12:28
mark_yes but i can't remember compiling them12:28
TheHighChildricardo: right click on the kicker > add applet then pick your favorites12:28
egarimit's the first time that i hear problems with the offcial packages12:28
ricardoi have no kicker! TheHighChild12:29
cpk2mark_: ca0106 is the driver you want12:29
mark_yes12:29
gnomefreakricardo: and just for the record the kde 3.5.4 will not give you a kernel (tha was  aleft over upgrade most likely12:29
ricardognomefreak: what pm??12:29
gnomefreakricardo: the one from ubotu12:29
cpk2deleting that alsa folder was probably bad12:29
mark_ok12:29
mark_so i try to get it back12:29
bepetemishndazza: when i do /mnt/sda1 it says i have no access rights, when i do media:/ it just says could not enter forum12:30
ricardognomefreak: thx...12:30
cpk2yeah maybe dpkg-reconfigure alsa or something might fix it12:30
gnomefreakricardo: yw12:30
mark_ok i'll try that12:31
ndazzabepetemish: please run this command : mount; ls /mnt; ls /media12:31
mark_cool i tells me the package "alsa" is not installed12:31
ndazzabepetemish: paste all the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:31
cpk2!info alsa12:32
ubotuPackage alsa does not exist in dapper12:32
cpk2thats because thats not the package12:32
ndazzabepetemish: actually make that: mount; ls -la /mnt; ls -la /media12:32
cpk2you should be ok just downloading the module i think12:32
mark_ok12:32
cpk2!sound12:32
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ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems12:32
cpk2use the second link there12:32
mark_i got12:32
mark_alsa-base12:32
mark_for example12:32
cpk2you can try to reconfigure that12:33
rikiohis clamav a good antivirus program12:33
cpk2apt-get install alsa will install alsa12:33
cpk2you worried about virii on linux?12:34
rikiohim just new and can never be too prepared12:34
mark_ok it says it takes alsa-base instead of alsa12:34
rikiohim trying to get as setup as i can :)12:34
mark_rikioh!12:34
cpk2thats fine mark_12:34
mark_haha my favourite movie12:34
cpk2rikioh: i suppose if you want an av clamav will work...12:35
ndazzarikioh: clamav is used to scan for windows viruses. there are no linux viruses in the wild12:35
cpk2i dont really see a reason for an av in linux12:35
bepetemishndazza: do you got it?12:35
ndazzabepetemish: no. there should be a link on the page, can you paste that here please?12:35
rikiohmark_: ah finally someone who has seen that movie no one ever knows what i am talking about12:36
mark_haha12:36
rikiohndazza: ok thats enough information for me i will stick without :)12:36
mark_i've seen it about a million times12:36
bepetemishndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1956212:36
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cpk2mark_: here is the module you need http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Audigy+SE.&chip=CA0106&module=ca010612:37
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mark_thank you12:37
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mark_was already searching for it ^^12:37
rikiohif k torrent stalls alot is that because of a bad torrent or because of something within the program12:38
rikioheverytime im not looking my torrent is stalled12:38
cpk2rikioh: dont upload at your max upspeed12:39
bernardosoares3hello. i've prelinked my kde and i've added KDE_IS_PRELINKED in /etc/environment yet "ps aux|grep kdeinit" tells me that kdeinit is running. What gives ?12:40
rikiohcpk2: my max is 100 kb/s i have it at 10 and im stalled :)12:40
ndazzabepetemish: ok, can you also paste the contents of /etc/fstab for me?12:40
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bernardosoares3correction: i've added KDE_IS_PRELINKED=112:40
mark_sorry for the stupid question, but where is the download link on that site?12:41
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bepetemishndazza; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1956512:42
ndazzarikioh: try with a healthy torrent, like http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/torrents/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.torrent12:42
mark_i take alsa-driver-0.4.012:43
mark_ok12:43
cpk2ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver12:43
ndazzabepetemish: heh sorry i wasn't terribly specific: i need the _contents_ of /etc/fstab, please run cat /etc/fstab and paste that12:44
cpk2mark_: they have newer ones than that12:44
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mark_yup i took the most recent one12:44
mark_hoping it's not a bet12:44
mark_a12:44
cpk2mark_: get 1.0.912:45
mark_oh ok12:45
mark_yes that's it12:45
cpk20.4.0 is from 199912:45
mark_but what i uninstalled was the 0.4.012:46
bepetemishndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1956612:46
mark_ok thanks i'll try to follow the instructions this evening but now i gotta go12:46
mark_goodbye12:46
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ndazzabepetemish: ahh i think 'ive found the problem12:47
bepetemishndazza: chill12:47
ndazzabepetemish: run sudo umount /mnt/sda1 && sudo rmdir /mnt/sda112:47
ricardodid any kernel update became available in the last few hours??12:48
bepetemishndazza: ok i did12:48
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ndazzabepetemish: then edit /etc/fstab: the line that reads /dev/sda1.... after the default option there is a period ( . ), that should be a comma12:48
cpk2apparently yes12:48
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ndazzabepetemish: once this is done, your link in media:/ should work12:50
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ErtainI can't seem to copy files off of my DVD+RW disc.  Well, they're not intact.12:50
bepetemishndazza: it still says only root can mount12:50
ndazzai just saw another typo: default should be defaults12:51
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pcfanHi all, I had installed kubuntu on an ubuntu installation, so I have both meta-packages ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed. my question is how to remove all the ubuntu-desktop packages, since I don't want gnome?12:52
cpk2sudo apt-get purge gnome?12:53
cpk2not sure on that one though12:53
pcfanand that remove also totem and other things like nautilus ?12:53
cpk2dunno12:53
gnomefreakpcfan: you want to remove gnome and all its apps?12:54
pcfanyes12:54
pcfanjust want kde12:54
bepetemishndazza: it still says only root can mount12:54
gnomefreaksudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk12:54
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pcfanare you sure about this? since I use some gtk programs on kde...12:55
cpk2bepetemish: you know when it says only root can blahblahblah you can just do "sudo !!" and then it will let you do it?12:55
gnomefreakpcfan: you will have to reinstall them12:55
pcfangnomefreak: ok12:55
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bepetemishcpk2: no.. im not in consule.. im doing RUN, Media:/, and then select my windows partition, so the only root warning is a pop-up screen12:57
ndazzabepetemish: did you fix the next typo? the defaults one?12:57
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bepetemishndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1956801:00
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ErtainI keep having buffer errors and I/O errors when I try to copy files from my DVD+RW disc.  I'm pretty sure that the disc is fine.  Btw, I haven't tried copying the files on another computer.01:01
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ndazzabepetemish: line 6 of that posting, the section that reads ntfs default,nls=.... that should read ntfs defaults,nls=...01:03
bernardosoares3hello. Can anyone help me on telling KDE that it is prelinked ? i've added the correct lines to /etc/environment yet kdeinit still starts :(01:03
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ricardohas anybody updated to kde 3.5.3?01:04
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ndazzabernardosoares3: is kdeinit not meant to start when ur libs are prelinked?01:04
cpk2ricardo: i have but havent restarted x yet01:05
ndazzabernardosoares3: i thought prelinking was just a performance tweak for shared libraries01:05
bernardosoares3ndazza: there's a way to tell kdeinit not to start if kde is prelinked.01:05
iberthi! I want to find out which encoding a text file has. Which tool can I use for such a job?01:05
bernardosoares3since KDE 3.2 i think01:05
bepetemishndazza: ok i edited it but still get the ROOT message01:06
ndazzabernardosoares3: ah okay, i wasn't aware of that. if that's the case, why does kdeinit start up under kubuntu at all? i thought ubuntu was normally prelinked anyways01:07
bernardosoares3ndazza: no i don't think so ?01:07
ricardoi updated to 3.5.4...the downgraded to 3.5.3....and i have the same problems...no kicker...no taskbar....etc..01:07
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Healotxchat-xhat01:08
ndazzabepetemish: okay, can i please have the output of ls -la /mnt; ls -la /media; cat /etc/fstab; cat /proc/mounts01:08
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bepetemishndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1956901:10
bernardosoares3ndazza: see http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/environment-variables.html01:10
bernardosoares3look at kde_is_prelinked01:11
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bepetemishBRB01:12
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ndazzabepetemish: thanks for your patience. please remove one of the = signs on the sda1 line. the line should look exactly like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957101:14
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ndazzabernardosoares3: you've rebooted the system since adding this? or just restarted kde?01:16
bernardosoares3ndazza: i did reboot yes01:17
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ndazzabernardosoares3: and env | grep KDE_IS_PRELINKED gives?01:18
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bernardosoares3ndazza: nothing01:19
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nalphahow to know why i can't ftp to another computer in my network? can i know the list of port that i can used or command to know the security??01:19
ricardokde downgrade doesnt work...01:20
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ricardoi followed the instruction http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0 and im still stuck with 3.5.401:21
bepetemishndazza: why thank me for my patience? your the one helping me. so thank you and i have did what you said01:21
ltmonLoad mediamanager kded module soon in the startup. Fixes bugs 127971 and 129534. See SVN commit 560584.01:22
ndazzabernardosoares3: i'm afraid i don't know enough about the way kde picks up environment variables. it may be that /etc/environment isn't the right file, try having a look at /etc/login.defs01:22
ndazzabepetemish: is the media:/ link working now?01:22
ltmonoopps... sorry for the accidental paste into the channel01:22
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ndazzanalpha: are you trying to connect to a linux box?01:22
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bernardosoares3ndazza: you must be right, my syntax or the file must be wrong01:23
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ibertnalpha: nmap HOSTNAME01:23
fritschnalpha: try nmape -P0 (he could blog scan requests)01:23
fritschnalpha: ;-)01:23
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ndazzanalpha: if it's an k/ubuntu box  that's serving up ftp try installing the inetutils-ftpd and inetutils-inetd packages01:24
bepetemishndazza: why thank me for my patience? your the one helping me. so thank you and i have did what you said01:25
bepetemishndazza: but stilll can't get in my windows partition01:25
ndazzabepetemish: from a console, try: mount /media/sda101:25
bepetemishndazza: then it says: "only root can mount01:26
ndazzabepetemish: many people get angry or arrogant after a while01:26
ndazzabepetemish: you are calmer and more reasonable than most :)01:26
rikiohwell guys im off to bed... its 6 am :)   maybe ill have a dream where i actually know what im doing in kubuntu ... wouldnt that be nice01:27
bepetemishndazza: well thank you01:28
maurihi01:28
mauria channel keeps saying01:28
mauriplz register with the service01:28
ndazzarikioh: i hope not, those dreams are scary :)01:28
mauriand use identify command to speak01:28
mauri?!01:28
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ndazzabepetemish: .... now mine is saying the same01:29
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bepetemishndazza: ow your working " with" me? like copy the settings i have then solve the problem on your linux and then tell me how you did?01:30
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jottbepetemish: ndazza: you have to add the "users" option to allow a normal user to mount/umount... otherwise you need to run sudo mount...01:31
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ndazzabepetemish: well yes i guess so :) i just fixed it on mine like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957501:31
ndazzajott: so i thought, but it was working on mine before *shrugs* i think we have it now01:32
jottndazza: userS ;-)01:32
jotti guess so at least ;)01:33
bepetemishndazza: so i need to chance to this /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1? and how do i set the users to mount/unmount?01:33
ndazzahehehe damn plurals01:33
ndazzabepetemish: yes, but jott just pointed out it needs to be users, not user01:33
ndazzabepetemish: the fstab file is a space separated list of fields. the fourth field is the one that should read users,nls=utf8 etc, that's the options field01:34
ndazzabepetemish: having the users option in there should allow users to mount/unmount01:34
PupenoI am having trouble downloading kubuntu-docs, is the problem known ? global or just my mirror ?01:34
ndazzai'll put another pastebin up with the exact line01:34
ndazzahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957601:35
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jottthe plural is for allowing users to unmount as the man page states ;)01:35
ricardohas anybody ever lost their kicker?01:35
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bepetemishndazza: YES im in.. thanks a LOT for helping me out..01:36
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ndazzabepetemish: glad it finally worked out for you01:36
cong_hallo01:37
ndazzajott, i wonder why he couldn't mount though... it just seems rather strange01:37
bepetemishndazza: yeah tnx for everything.. 1 last question.. do you know a good windows emulator?01:37
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ndazzabepetemish: wine or cedega are pretty much the only emulators on linux01:38
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ndazzabepetemish: you can pay for a commercial version of wine called crossover office too01:38
bepetemishndazza: ok, tnx01:38
jott...and crossover office.. (which is like cedega essentialy a mocked up wine)01:38
jottright :)01:38
ndazzaexactly :)01:39
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nathow do i dowload morascape01:55
natfor linux01:55
nati extracted with ark01:55
natand it comes up with shell script01:55
nat!ark01:56
ubotuI know nothing about ark - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:56
nathello01:56
bepetemishhow can i install " wine" ? im trying it now with adept manager but i think its not working01:58
ibertsudo apt-get install wine01:59
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nat?02:00
nathello ibert02:00
nathow do i download morascape02:00
natfor linux02:00
nati extracted with ark02:00
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natand it comes up with shell sctipt02:00
ibertI don't know this piece of software....02:01
bepetemishibert: sudo apt-get install wine isnt working02:01
iberthae you opened your sources.list?02:02
ibertwhats teh error?02:02
bepetemishnope.. this is the first time im going to install something so i dont know much about it02:03
SaVioLahow can i go to /home with konsole?02:03
ibertok.02:03
ibertcd /home02:03
SaVioLak ty02:03
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ibertbepetemish: just one moment02:03
bepetemishiberd: ok02:04
PupenoSaVioLa: or cd .. when you are in /home/your_user/02:04
jottbepetemish: you could try to use automatix it will help you install various packages not in the default repositories02:04
jottbepetemish: http://www.getautomatix.com/02:05
bepetemishjott: ok they say i need to add this    deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt kubuntu main02:06
ibertbepetemish: have look at /etc/apt/sources.list02:06
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bepetemishibert: ok im in sources.list02:07
ibertbepetemish: now you can see that a lot of sources are with an # at the beginning of the line02:07
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ibertbepetemish: delete those '#' - then they are uncommented02:07
bepetemishibert: yes02:07
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ibertbepetemish: after that apt-get update && apt-get install wine02:08
ibertbepetemish: and you're done02:08
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bepetemishibert: this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19580 can you take a look and show me what to edit?02:09
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Ace2007Hi i upgraded KDE to 3.5.4 and all the settings have gone like F4 to open konsole from within konqueror02:10
ricardohey guys...i only see the panel, no kicker, no clock...no nothing...any ideas?02:10
ricardoAce2007: I have the same problem!!!02:10
Pupeno2.5.4 broken in dapper, it is in the topic.02:11
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Pupeno302:11
Ace2007Pupeno: so any fixes?02:11
ibertbepetemish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1958102:11
PupenoI don't know, I don't tend to use other KDE except the one that comes with dapper, the stable one.02:11
ricardoPupeno: we got it...but what can we do know?02:11
bobbyyuCan someone please tell me where I can get the modified version of diskmounnter?02:12
abattoirricardo: try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc....and start the kicker w/ 'kicker'02:12
abattoirricardo: close it /w 'killall kicker' first02:12
bepetemishibert: can i just copy/paste this or do i need to do more?02:12
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jottbepetemish: you could add the getautomatix line or "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to get a more recent wine02:13
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Ace2007ricardo: go into synaptic using "kdesu synaptic" (you'll have to install synaptic if you don't have it) and then find kde-base and then right click and ask it it install02:14
jottas wine tends to make fast progress its always good to stay up-to-date ;-)02:14
Ace2007ricardo: that is if you had problems during the install02:14
bepetemishjott: but where in the sources do i add that line?02:14
ricardoabattoir: should i delete the file? what will happen then?02:15
jottanywhere you like02:15
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jottso on at the end would be fine02:15
ibertbepetemish: just replace the old one..02:15
abattoirricardo: wait a sec.... that should 'reset' your kicker.... but i think there is a problem w/ reading it from kubuntu-default-settings02:15
ricardoabattoir: you are a genius!!!!!02:15
ricardoit worked....02:16
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abattoirricardo: aah, good :)02:16
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ricardoabattoir: actually you are right...it was reset...02:16
abattoirricardo: anything else wrong... w/ the updates?02:17
ricardoabattoir: what d you mean?02:17
abattoirricardo: you upgraded to 3.5.4 right... anything else 'missing' or broken?02:18
bepetemishibert: ok i edited the source. how can i install, download, open wine now?02:18
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ricardonop...02:18
abattoirricardo: hmmm... ok, thanks :)02:19
ricardoabattoir: will the kicker be automatically loaded at startup from now on?02:19
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abattoirricardo: yes, should be....02:20
bepetemishjott: ok i edited the source. how can i install, download, open wine now?02:20
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jottsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine02:21
jottmaybe sudo apt-get install automatix  if you want to try it... (installs also various media codecs)02:22
bepetemishjott: ok its installing02:22
ThunderStruckjott: automatix isnt in repos02:23
jottyeah i told him to add the line ;)02:23
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ricardoAce2007: I dont find kde-base02:24
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visik7I've added an entry in menu.lst of grub but when I select it from the restart dialog it doesn't boot into it02:25
Ace2007ricardo: did it complain about broken packages when it started? if it didn't its fine, it could have just been me02:25
visik7what I have to do to get it working ?02:25
bepetemishjott: its installed02:25
ThunderStruckvisik7: what are you trying to get working?02:25
visik7ThunderStruck: do you know when you start logout ?02:25
visik7that there is a menu for reboot02:25
ricardoAce2007: kubuntu-docs..is the only package i cant install02:26
visik7that allow you to select in which OS to reboot ?02:26
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ThunderStruckyes02:26
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Ace2007ricardo: but did it complain about broken packages, (its kdebase, sorry there is no dash)02:26
visik7ThunderStruck: ok I've added an entry but it doesn't boot in this entry02:26
bobbyyuI need to change permissions on my Fat32 drive. What should I do?02:26
visik7bobbyyu: mount with umask02:26
bepetemishjott: now how do i open wine :o02:26
ThunderStruckvisik7: entry for?02:26
visik7for another OS02:26
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visik7whith it's own boot loader02:27
visik7(that is grub) :)02:27
visik7but if I press esc02:27
visik7and select it02:27
visik7(at boot time)02:27
visik7it works02:27
bobbyyuI'm sorry if this question is annoying... how?02:27
visik7only the reboot dialog cannot select it02:27
visik7bobbyyu: man mount :)02:27
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visik7umask=<mask>02:27
visik7as an option02:27
ThunderStruckvisik7: thats strange (im not real sure)02:28
ricardoAce2007: nop...02:28
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ricardoAce2007: now im downgrading to 3.5.3...lets see what it gives....02:28
visik7ThunderStruck: isn't a doc that explain how to set a grub entry to get it work properly ?02:28
gnomefreak!grub02:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:28
gnomefreakvisik7: somewhere in there02:29
Ace2007ricardo: don't02:29
ricardowhy?02:29
ricardoAce2007:02:29
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Ace2007ricardo: why are you down grading?02:29
ricardobecause 3.5.4 does not work02:29
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gnomefreakAce2007: kde 2.5.4 - 3.5.302:29
Ace2007ricardo: whats wrong with it?02:29
gnomefreak3.5.4*02:30
gnomefreakricardo: did you do the latest updates?02:30
ricardoim downgading from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.302:30
gnomefreakricardo: the kicker issue was fixed the other day02:30
ricardognomefreak: how?02:30
ricardook...so i can use 3.5.4??02:30
Ace2007ricardo: yea why downgrade? its most likely your settings that were screwed not kde itself02:30
ricardook...02:30
Ace2007ricardo: yea you can use it02:31
gnomefreakricardo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    it was fixed 2 days ago02:31
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SaVioLahow can i install flash player in opera?02:31
helfrez3.5.4 be sure to read the README in the server, the defaults file is borked so it will reset soem of your preferences02:31
ricardook...wait guys...ill upgrade to kde 3.5.4 and see what happens....02:31
gnomefreak!opera02:31
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.02:31
visik7let opera scan for mozila plugins02:31
gnomefreakgrrrrrr02:31
ricardobe right back...02:31
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bobbyyuHow do I run umask?02:31
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helfrezim running 3.5.4 in 32 machines with the same effects, nothign major but you will lose some settings02:32
helfrez2 machines not 32 lol02:32
visik7my grub entry is here http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=1961902:32
visik7practically I've installed 2 ubuntu02:32
visik7one on hd0,002:32
visik7and grub with it02:32
visik7and another on hd0,502:33
visik7with it's own grub02:33
visik7it works02:33
visik7manually02:33
visik7but it doesn't with the reboot dialog02:33
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bepetemishjott: i have done what you say but what to do now??02:36
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ibertbepetemish: what do you want to do?02:37
jottbepetemish: so when you installed automatix you can run sudo automatix and follow the instructions02:37
MukiEXIs anyone here having issues with certain vids and the xv video extension that don't show up in other video outs, like opengl?02:37
jottbepetemish: when you want to run wine run winecfg and then wine yourapp.exe02:38
MukiEXIn both kaffiene and vlc?02:38
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mcbuddha_hi all!02:39
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mcbuddha_i just updated to kde 3.5.4 and my konqueror doesn't work well02:39
bepetemishjott: winecfg will do the job02:39
bepetemishjott: tnzx02:39
visik7mcbuddha_: does it works with a plain user ?02:40
MukiEXAnyone else getting the green channel bug with xv?02:40
visik7(e.g. with a clean .kde ?02:40
mcbuddha_not that kind02:40
Jack12hi guys the website of sony ericsson requires the adobe flash player , how to get it for konqueror ?02:40
mcbuddha_just missing address bar and nav buttons (back, home, up etc)02:40
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abattoirmcbuddha_: rt. click on the top(where you'd expect those things to be)->Toolbars->Location Toolbar02:42
abattoirmcbuddha_: tell me if it works02:42
jordan_when i reboot my computer setings on pulpit not save ?02:43
ricardoAce2007: abattoir: when im upgading to kde 3.5.4 is asks me to remove kdelibs-bin...is that safe?02:43
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Jack12whats new in kde 3.5.4?02:43
abattoirricardo: from what i recall, the 'packaging scheme' has changed, and kdelibs-bin is no longer being used... just to be safe, see if the file is in the repos...02:43
Jack12is it worth getting it now?02:43
abattoirJack12: as you can see, it is still broken in dapper... if you can, please wait for it to be fixed...02:44
abattoirJack12: *as you can see from the topic02:44
mcbuddha_abattoir: nothing02:45
abattoirmcbuddha_: what do you mean? the location bar is already enabled?02:45
jordan_when i reboot my computer setings on pulpit not save. How to save them ?02:45
jottthe files in the kdebase of http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/pool-dapper/kdebase/ are a few hours old.. is it fixed now?02:45
mcbuddha_abattoir: there's no location toolbar option02:46
bepetemishjott: i imported the game hitman in wine graphic window.. how do i start it now>02:46
abattoirmcbuddha_: ok... so you see Main, Extra, but not location?02:46
ricardofrom the kubuntu site regarding kde 3.5.4: "these packages have a bug which stops kubuntu-default-settings from applying"02:46
jottbepetemish: try to run wine hitman.exe (or whatever) in the folder you have it.. (dont know if wine supports it.... you may have to use cedega for that)02:47
mcbuddha_abattoir: google suggest, main, speech, extra. that's all02:47
jottricardo: yeah but that message is 2 days old ;)02:47
jottit looks like there was a very recent update02:47
ricardojott: ok...thanls....02:47
bepetemishjott: this is the error i get when i do hitman.exe :    wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\hitman.exe": Module not found02:48
abattoirmcbuddha_: hmmm... do you want to try deleting the konqueror config file(will delete all your konq. specific settings_?02:48
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jottbepetemish: you may have to install it from the scratch.. like using "wine setup.exe" from the install folder02:48
mcbuddha_abattor: where can i find it?02:49
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bepetemishjott: no that doesnt work02:49
abattoirmcbuddha_: ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror.rc02:49
jottbepetemish: http://appdb.winehq.org/ you may want to check this site for compatibility information02:49
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jottbepetemish: but as for games cedega is probably the better choice...02:50
jottbepetemish: the only drawback: its commercial ;)02:50
abattoirmcbuddha_: backup those files, close konqueror, delete from a terminal, restart konqueror02:50
bepetemishjott: maiby its because i havn't added any liberies02:50
mcbuddha_doing so...02:50
abattoirmcbuddha_: good :)02:51
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califfo is there anyone using ktorrent and having "not connectable" problems even if firewall rules are properly set?02:51
jottbepetemish: yeah it can be tricky sometimes to get things running.. just take a look at the appdb there are explanations on what to do for some particular app02:52
bepetemishjott: well tnx for everything but i have to go now...02:53
bepetemishjott: maiby i talk to you later02:53
jottbepetemish: sure np02:53
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mcbuddha_abattoir: there is no ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror.rc02:54
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stephan_califfo: I do02:54
abattoirmcbuddha_: oops sorry, /02:54
abattoirmcbuddha_: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc02:55
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califfostephan_ , maybe in filemp3.org?02:55
iberthow can I give the hostname of an DHCP-Client back to an DHCP server?02:55
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stephan_califfo: I don't know.  I've never managed to get a torent client work, neither under Kubuntu nor XP.02:56
ricardoabattoir: i have 3 broken packages when upgrading...how can i fix them?02:56
abattoirricardo: which ones?02:56
califfostephan_ it's so simple if you don't need do login :)02:56
stephan_califfo: so I guess it's a firewall problem.  I use a Netgear FR114P02:57
mcbuddha_abattoir: nothing. i've searched for it02:57
abattoirmcbuddha_: there is no ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc?02:57
califfou just have to set two ports02:57
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mcbuddha_no, there isn't02:57
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MukiEXAnyone know what causes this in VLC? http://www.emonville.com/mukichan/src/1154609819336.jpg02:57
califfostephan_ u just have to set two ports02:57
ricardoabattoir:  kaudiocreator, kdesktop, kdm, konqueror (actually there are 4)02:58
abattoirmcbuddha_: hmmm, that's weird, ok, try restarting konqueror and see if you see the location bar.02:58
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abattoirricardo: updating through adept?02:58
ricardoyeap02:58
ricardoabattoir: should i use synaptic instead?02:58
abattoirricardo: and it tells you BREAK(install).... try 'apt-get' it'd give you more clues..02:59
abattoirricardo: as to why the breakage would occur02:59
califfosudo apt-get package-name --reinstall?02:59
Riddell** testers needed for  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main03:00
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ricardoabattoir: so i fix borken packages with synaptic...i am now upgrading to 3.5.403:01
abattoirricardo: ^^^^^^^^^03:02
ricardoabattoir: what?03:02
mcbuddha_abattoir: i cannot delete it even as root03:02
abattoirricardo:  there are new packages....  kubuntu.org ones.. want to try that?03:03
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abattoirmcbuddha_: konquerorrc?03:03
mcbuddha_(~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc)03:03
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ricardoabattoir: which new packages?03:03
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ricardoabattoir: dont get what you mean...03:03
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mcbuddha_abattoir: ok, i have it done03:04
ricardoabattoir: ok...upgrading was a succes...lets restart to see whats happen...03:04
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mcbuddha_abattoir: but there's still no location bar option...03:05
tdnHow do I make Ctrl+W close konq' when there is only one tab left?03:05
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abattoirmcbuddha_: then i'd suggest you wait till the breakage issue is sorted out... dont know if the new debs fix that...03:06
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califfo is there anyone using ktorrent and having "not connectable" problems even if firewall rules are properly set?03:06
rodrigo_can somebody give me a spanish channnel?03:06
abattoir!es03:07
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:07
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rodrigo_ubotu: thank you very much03:07
ubotuI know nothing about thank you very much - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:07
mcbuddha_abattoir: ok, thanks. i'll send the report03:07
stephan_califfo: I've open an acount on filemp3.org.  Waiting...03:07
rodrigo_ubotu: what dou you know about?03:08
ubotuI know nothing about what dou you know about? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:08
stephan_califfo: About the port, I've got 6881 in TCP/UDP and 4444 in UDP03:08
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califfo6881 sucks, I think it's blacklisted03:08
califfoi changed to 4919003:08
rodrigo_ubotu: thank you03:08
ubotuI know nothing about thank you - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:08
stephan_califfo: ok, I'll try 4919003:09
fritscheverybody who wants to test (probably fixed 3.5.4 kde packages) look for them here:03:09
fritschhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-35403:09
mcbuddha_abattoir: OMG i started the report wizard, and it opened up a konq window with toolbar and nav buttons!03:09
gnomefreakfritsch: still looking for testers ;)03:10
abattoirmcbuddha_: either 1) you didnt wait for the settings to take effect :P... or03:10
abattoirmcbuddha_: 2) It loaded another view profile which wasnt 'screwed up' :)03:10
fritschgnomefreak: Riddell allowed me to fetch as many as possible03:10
gnomefreakah03:10
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fritschgnomefreak: getting the topic changed is my salvation (mmmh cant find the right word) today03:11
gnomefreaklol03:11
fritschgnomefreak: wait look up the dictionary03:11
grotheskkde testing? me! me!03:11
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grotheskUpdating to 3.5.4 was painful.03:11
gnomefreaksomething like "if you want to test kde 3.5.4 you can find it here?03:11
fritschi meant intention03:11
gnomefreaksomething easy03:11
grotheskHad to delete .kde completely.03:12
jottok update && upgrade started ;)03:12
fritschgrothesk: mmmh you should not have to do03:12
fritschjott: updated your sources.list?03:12
mcbuddha_abattoir: but the two konquerors have different menus, in the 'new' there was no option to set the profile03:12
jottsure..03:13
grothesksystemsettings keeps crashing when selecting a cerain Folder03:13
jottwonder why there are so many packages kept back03:13
fritschjott: dist-upgrade03:13
jottk03:13
fritschjott: it has to install new ones03:13
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fritschgrothesk: how can i reproduce this?03:13
ricardoabattoir: it worked...im under kde 3.5.4...03:13
abattoirmcbuddha_: did you restart KDE/X/system after the upgrade?03:13
abattoirricardo: cool :)03:13
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grotheskfritsch: Do you speak german?03:14
jottso removal of the kdelibs-bin is fine is guess .. what's its replacement?03:14
ricardoabattoir: now i have reconfigure my taskbar as before...but it was nice learning ;p03:14
mcbuddha_abattoir: no...oops i will do that now03:14
abattoirricardo: indeed...03:14
fritschjott: yes not needed anymore03:14
abattoirmcbuddha_: that could fix a few issues03:15
jottfritsch: you know whats the package containing its stuff now?03:15
ricardonow....has anybody installed kernel 2.6.15-26-686?03:15
fritschjott: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a03:16
fritschjott: i think03:16
jottok thanks03:16
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fritschgnomefreak: grothesk found a bug, reproducable here03:17
jotthm there are a couple of conflicts..03:17
gnomefreakfritsch: what is it03:17
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fritschgnomefreak: you are running dapper immo?03:17
grothesk'systemsettings' crashes when choosing a certain folder.03:18
gnomefreakfritsch: nope03:18
fritschgnomefreak: click on SystemSettings ->"Region and Country Settings"03:18
gnomefreakfritsch: but i would like to see if its reproducible here03:18
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fritschgnomefreak: then "shortcuts"03:18
fritschgnomefreak: then command shortcuts03:18
fritschgnomefreak: sorry for the very bad translation03:19
fritschgnomefreak: this was one: and I found another03:19
gnomefreakfritsch: give me a min i have to boot kde im working on something atm for like 2 mins more03:19
fritschgnomefreak: the other is: "User And Groups" in Systemsettings03:19
fritschgnomefreak: if you want to get Superuser, it does not do anything03:19
gnomefreakbrb let me boot03:20
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jotthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19592 here are the messages.. those pkgs should be masked i guess03:20
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grotheskfritsch: Not reproducable here.03:21
grotheskI can log in as superuser03:21
fritschjott: do dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/Packagename03:22
fritschjott: after that: sudo apt-get -f install03:22
fritschgrothesk: okay03:22
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jottfritsch: yeah i know.. but i guess this should not happen03:22
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califfoany ktorrent users?03:23
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ThunderStruckok back03:24
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gnomefreakin system settings where am i going?03:25
zantell me please, how can i queue a song more than one time in amarok?03:25
abattoirzan: putting it into the playlist twice doesnt work?03:25
fritschgnomefreak:03:25
fritschSystemSettings -> Region and Country Settings, then the second from down03:26
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fritschthen the second button under current scheme03:26
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zanoh... i thought i can do that with the queue option..03:26
fritschgnomefreak: if you tell me how i can start kcontrol in english, suggest me03:26
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mcbuddhaabattoir: after restarting the X-server: http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060803/screenshot5_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg03:26
zanthanks...03:26
gnomefreakfritsch: i dont have region and countrys i have regaonal and accessiblity03:27
gnomefreak(sp)03:27
grotheskgnomefreak: That's right.03:27
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grotheskThen go to 'shortcuts', gnomefreak03:27
fritschgnomefreak: yes, sorry bad translation03:27
fritschyou could find it?03:27
fritschgrothesk: can you try this:03:28
gnomefreakkeyboard shortcuts?03:28
fritschgrothesk: run LANG=en_US kcontrol03:28
gnomefreakfritsch: its ok03:28
abattoirmcbuddha:  i guess the one on the left is 'Web Browsing'...??03:28
fritschgnomefreak: wait, whats is ander keyboard shortcuts?03:28
zan1 more question: is there a script or something so that i can locate the current song? let's say i was manually viewing the playlist and the song changes... how can i go to the current song?03:29
gnomefreakander?03:29
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fritschunder keyboard shortcuts03:29
fritschsorry, but german english mix03:29
zanyeah... found it :)) already... thanks...03:30
gnomefreaki dont see it03:30
fritschgnomefreak: i think keyboard shortcuts is the right one, ist over "accesibility" oder sth.03:30
grotheskfritsch: It does work when using kcontrol. Just 'systemsettings' crashes.03:30
fritschgrothesk: found out, too03:30
gnomefreakthats good03:31
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gnomefreakcrashing is a good thing03:31
fritschgnomefreak: crashing for you, too?03:31
gnomefreakno03:31
fritschill do a screenshot series03:31
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gnomefreakcrashing you can get a backtrace/strace and we can pinpoint what is happeneing03:31
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grotheskhttp://www.phpfi.com/136891 gnomefreak Here is a backtrace03:32
mcbuddhaabattoir: you're right03:32
gnomefreakty03:32
gnomefreakbrb03:32
grotheskSorry, no dbg-package found for systemsettings... :-(03:32
mcbuddhaabattoir: how can i start konq in web browser mode?03:32
abattoirmcbuddha: kfmclient --openProfile web, i think, wait, i'll confirm03:33
jottok upgrade worked fine so far03:33
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jottno problems with kicker03:33
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jottand no probs with konqueror so far03:34
jottah03:34
jotti get this crash too03:34
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fritschjott: the one with language and accessibility?03:34
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jottregional&accessibillity -> keyboard shortcuts -> tab command shortcuts => crash03:35
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fritschjott: thx!03:35
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fritschi pasted it in kubuntu-devel03:35
jottKHotKeys::init_global_data ()03:35
abattoirmcbuddha: 'kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing'03:35
fritschjott: what langauge are you using?03:36
jottenglish...03:36
jottso en_US i guess03:37
mcbuddhaabattoir: thanks, but it seems to start automatically in web mode. thanks for your help!03:37
fritschoki, so we have 2 de_DE and on en_US03:37
fritsch=> there is a bug03:37
abattoirmcbuddha: you're welcome :)03:37
fritschmmmh found one, without crahs03:37
fritschgrothesk: did you restart kdm since upgrade?03:37
grotheskI know of 2 other boxes crashing and one not crashing.03:38
grotheskAll of them on Dapper kde 3.5.4 with de_DE03:38
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slavohi , how can i enable raw print (only text without formating) from kate or koffice ? now it sends postscript to my raw printer03:38
gnomefreakgrothesk: is this default keyborad settings?03:38
grotheskfritsch: Sure, it did several reboots since then.03:38
jottso maybe its a config problem... although a bug anyway ;)03:38
fritschgrothesk: several?03:38
fritschgrothesk: Riddel made updates at 14:0003:39
fritschRiddell: you got them?03:39
jottmoving khotkeyrc does not help :/03:39
grotheskgnomefreak: I might have configured something in earlier versions of kde.03:39
gnomefreakjott: are you having same issue?03:39
fritschI try with a complete new user03:39
grotheskOh. I'll check for new packages then!03:39
DaSkreechstart it with a URL?03:39
gnomefreakgrothesk: kdelibs was an over night update for me within last 10 hours03:39
gnomefreakthere were a few kde updates03:39
grotheskdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main   <--- This repo?03:40
gnomefreakyes03:40
jottgnomefreak: yes03:40
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jottgnomefreak: crash on the "command shortcuts" tab03:41
gnomefreakjott: can you provide a backtrace for me and paste it to pastebin so i can review the 203:41
grotheskSwitched back to kde-latest earlier that day.03:41
jottgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19594 here you go03:42
grotheskgnomefreak: Did you see my backtrace?03:42
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gnomefreakgrothesk: yes and im gonna look at both03:42
grotheskAh! New packages in kde-35403:43
gnomefreakty jott03:43
gnomefreakjott: please update03:43
grotheskI'll upgrade them now.03:43
grotheskBut it will take some time for me. ISDN-speed only...03:43
grotheskCU!03:43
gnomefreakRiddell: you here?03:45
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jottgnomefreak: i think i have the latest packages..03:45
gnomefreakjott: please make sure03:45
ricardo_has anybody noticed slight deffects on fonts with kde 3.5.4?03:45
Sho_ricardo_: yes03:45
jotti did so ;) no updates available (from http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 )03:45
ricardo_Sho_: did you find a solution?03:46
Sho_ricardo_: Konsole will no longer use the bold weight of my size 9 Terminus font, for some reason. It's greyed out in the selection box, too. Worked in 3.5.3.03:46
Sho_ricardo_: And no, haven't found a solution yet sadly ..03:46
ricardo_Sho_: i've noticed defects when using adept for instance...03:47
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Sho_Speaking of finding solutions, any update on the kderc problem with the Dapper packages?03:49
Riddellgnomefreak: hi03:49
gnomefreakgood morning03:49
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gnomefreakRiddell: i have 2 backtraces that look bad for libc.so.6. im assuming that is libc6. only and issue in dapper03:50
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gnomefreakRiddell: this is keyboard settings in 3.5.403:50
Riddellgnomefreak: from doing what?03:50
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gnomefreakfritsch: can you explain what you guys were doing03:51
fritschgnomefreak: wargh my bad english :-)03:51
jottRiddell: Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Tab: Command Shortcuts03:51
fritschjott: crashes for you, too?03:51
gnomefreakRiddell: i got bits nad peices and its not reproducible in edgy03:51
jottfritsch: yes03:51
fritschjott: please log out, restart kdm and recheck03:51
jottworks for you now?03:51
jotthold on03:51
fritschjott: just try, and give me 10 minutes to run away03:52
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LPbyhttp://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=1138903:52
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fritschjott: working?03:53
jottfritsch: no still crashes03:53
fritschkdm restarted?03:53
jotti use gdm.. so this should not be an problem03:54
fritschjott: do ps aux |grep kded03:54
jott(and no process ran under my user account)03:54
fritschjott: okay03:54
fritschi restarted kdm and no more crash for me03:54
fritschcould you make a backtrace for riddell03:54
jottmaybe i can try to reboot03:55
jott..03:55
fritschjott: okay, please try this first, and after that please make a backtrace for riddell03:55
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fritschgrothesk: still crashing after reboot?03:56
fritschgrothesk: I just logged out, rebooted no more crashing here, but please try03:56
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gnomefreakok stepping out for a moment here are the 2 backtraces i have http://www.phpfi.com/136891 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1959403:57
jottstill crashes here after reboot03:58
MilhousePunkRockRe everyone...03:58
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grotheskfritsch: Still upgrading...03:58
grotheskI'm on a different box now.03:58
fritschgrothesk: okay, please try and report03:59
trappistis security.ubuntu.com having a bad day?03:59
fritschtrappist: working here03:59
grotheskAye aye, Sir!04:00
fritschjott: working?04:00
grotheskI do have another bug, maybe connected to the first one.04:00
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fritschgrothesk: what is it? restarted kdm?04:00
grotheskMousegestures do not work in konqueror.04:00
fritschgrothesk: how to reproduce?04:00
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grotheskI used to use Mousegestures in konqueror.04:01
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jottok even crashes after reboot and moving .kde ......04:02
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jottgrothesk: gestures working here...04:04
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gnomefreakis everything fixed after upgdates04:04
fritschhere, everything works, after restarting kdm04:05
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fritschgnomefreak: i think this was because of the new libs04:05
jottstrange..04:05
fritschgnomefreak: and not having loaded them04:05
fritschjott: working?04:06
jottno04:06
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jottwonder why it works for you ;)04:06
fritschstill not working for you?04:06
gnomefreakthere was klibs upgraded and that has been biggest issue ive seen with 3.5.404:06
gnomefreakosiris: backtrace again please04:06
fritschjott: you did dist-upgrade?04:06
fritschjott: after and apt-get update04:06
jottfritsch: yes..04:07
osiristhank you.  drive through04:07
fritschjott: and logged out, reboot, restarted kdm04:07
h3sp4wnI am having issues with 3.5.4 on edgy and debian unstable (random lockups - that I have never had before) just stopped using anything kde related until its fixed04:07
jottfritsch: right ;)04:07
fritschjott: apt-get -f install04:07
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fritschjott: some problems, perhaps not everything installed correctly04:07
jotti do a reinstall of kdebase-bin04:08
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fritschjott: try04:09
fritschjott: but you should not have to do this04:09
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jottat leasts thats the package with libkhotkeys in it that seemd to caused the crash ;)04:11
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jontecHow do I play mpg files in totem?04:12
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gnomefreakjontec: i think you need w32codecs or maybe totem-xine04:13
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jottoh, one note its a sig6 not a sig11 that caused the crash...04:13
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fritschjott: still crashing?04:13
Martijn81looks like 4.5.4 works fine here, what should *not* work?04:13
jottyes :(04:13
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Martijn81* 3.5.404:14
jontecgotcha, thanks04:14
fritschmmmh, can you try with a "fresh" user account?04:14
jottMartijn81: try: Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Tab: Command Shortcuts04:14
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jottin system settings04:14
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jottfritsch: i already did move the .kde without success..04:14
fritschmmh sorry, cannot reproduce it anymore04:15
jottstrange enough ;)04:15
fritschjott: wie can compare installed kde 3.5.4 packages04:15
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Martijn81jott: yeah that crashes04:15
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fritschMartijn81: did you restart since update?04:15
Martijn81fritisch: yep04:16
fritschmmh, mmh04:16
fritschMartijn81: when did you upgrade?04:16
Martijn815 minutes ago04:16
fritschMartijn81: did you get dependency problems of "file overwriting" while installing?04:16
h3sp4wnMartijn81: I am getting on average one hard lock a day (since 3.5.4 was installed)04:16
fritschMartijn81: did dist-upgrade?04:16
gplfighter3.5.4 was very buggy here04:17
jottfritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1959704:17
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Martijn81dist-upgrade yes, i had to remove ktorrentRC1 and there was some package problem (put it in a text file), but with -f wit worked fine04:17
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fritschjott: dpkg --purge kdelibs-bin04:18
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grotheskfritsch: Rebooting now.04:20
jotthmmmm.. its only systemsettings that crashes the tab kcontrol works04:21
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grotheskjott: Yepp. Same here.04:21
jottso its more likely an systemsettings issue?!04:22
grotheskI think so.04:22
fritschjott: mine: ii  kdelibs-data                  3.5.4-0ubuntu204:22
fritschjott: yours: kdelibs-data                  3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper104:22
larson9999nixternal: you making some kickass products like winternal?04:22
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jottfritsch: whats your kde-systemsettings version?04:23
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grotheskNow it is officially released for kubuntu... :-)04:23
fritschjott: 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu104:23
gnomefreakummmmmmmm guys i have 3.5.4-0ubuntu3 ;)04:23
fritschgnomefreak: where did you get this from *G*?04:24
gnomefreak;) it might be because of edgy (hence the reason i cant reproduce your complaints) the versions are different ;)04:24
grothesk_fritsch: Still crahes.04:24
fritschgrothesk: what is our kdelibs-data version?04:25
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grothesk_kde-systemsettings: 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu104:25
fritschgrothesk: kdelibs-data?04:26
grothesk_kdelibs-data 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper104:26
fritschjott: installed your version now04:26
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fritschgrothesk: okay this one i`m running now, too04:26
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fritschsorry had a mixture from yesterday04:27
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cotrolerwha is the latest version of kde?04:27
Sho_cotroler: KDE 3.5.404:27
fritschSho_: see the topic04:28
fritschjust a mom, try tis version04:28
grothesk_cotroler: But currently we are figuring out some issues...04:28
cotrolerwhat is the latest stable version then?04:28
grothesk_3.5.4. *g*04:28
grothesk_Officially it is marked as stable.04:29
tsdgeoswhat does not work are "kubuntu" packages04:29
tsdgeosnot 3.5.4 as it04:29
cotrolerbut is it good and stfuff?04:29
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egarimX includes in which packages are ?04:29
egarimchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:29
Sho_cotroler: Kubuntu presently advises against installing its KDE 3.5.4 packages.04:30
grothesk_But I would rather stick with 3.5.3, when you are using kubuntu packages.04:30
tsdgeosgrothesk_: btw i just got new packages and the 3.5.4.php page does not advise against them04:30
fritschgrothesk: i am trying now04:30
tsdgeosso maybe the Riddell overlord fixed them already04:30
fritschgrothesk: no crash here04:30
cotrolerso the best thing is 3.5.3 ?04:30
grothesk_tsdgeos: I just finished apt-get uprade some minutes ago, tsdgeos04:31
Sho_cotroler: Yes04:31
fritschgrothesk: when you installed kdebase-data, did it say sth. about dependency problems? wanting to overwrite sth.?04:31
grothesk_fritsch: No.04:31
grothesk_All went smooth.04:31
fritschgrothesk: cool :-)04:31
Sho_tsdgeos: http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README and ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu/README are still up, however04:31
fritschSho_: not more current anymore04:32
fritschSho_: this one is fixed04:32
grothesk_Wich package does contain kubuntus systemsettings?04:33
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fritschkubuntu-default-settings04:33
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grothesk_kde-systemsettings it is...04:34
fritschgrothesk, sure?04:34
Sho_fritsch: Well, I'll just wait until that README says it's ready to go04:34
fritschSho_: mmmh, do so :-)04:35
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fritschSho_: but thats fixed ...04:35
fritschSho_: Riddell just forgot to delete this one04:35
gnomefreakkde-systemsettings04:35
fritschyes, have it installed, too04:35
fritschgnomefreak: 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu104:36
gnomefreakwhats that?04:36
Sho_fritsch: Then I'll wait until he remembers :). Besides, you imply other problems.04:36
fritschSho_: yes there are some, but only for some04:36
Hobbseehi Sho_!04:36
fritschSho_: all over it` s usable and there is a downgrade howto if it terribly failes04:36
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fritschSho_: look at the topic of this channel04:37
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Sho_yo Hobbsee04:37
bepetemishI got the "wine"  windows emulator how is the other callt?04:38
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Sho_fritsch: Ah ... when I joined earlier it was still "broken in Dapper" :)04:38
HobbseeSho_: i believe it's mostly fixed04:38
Hobbseedoesnt seem to be broken in edgy, which is weird.04:38
bepetemishI got the "wine"  windows emulator how is the other callt?04:38
Hobbseewho uses dapper anyway :P04:38
klerfaytwhat is default chmod for /usr/bin/cdrecord - I can't use k3b anymore04:38
alexicon!amarok > alexicon04:39
Sho_Hobbsee: Dapper is your long-term supported release, dude ;)04:39
fritschklerfayt: try the k3b settings assistant04:39
HobbseeSho_: shhhh :P04:39
HobbseeSho_: i'm waiting on the backports to open before i do much on it.04:39
bepetemishI got the "wine"  windows emulator how is the other callt?04:39
fritschbepetemish: the commercial one?04:40
fritschbepetemish: cedega? winex? crossover office?04:40
mendredHobbsee: remember the grand experiment with the "wierd" backport repository for installing kaffeine 0.8?04:40
mendredwell it worked alright :)04:40
Hobbseemendred: not exaclty.  it was highly crackful?04:40
klerfaytfritsch: it doesn't help, just tell me what's your chmod for /usr/bin/cdrecord04:40
Hobbseemendred: you havent tried a dist-upgrade yet :P04:40
Hobbsee!info kaffeine edgy04:41
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2087 kB, installed size 5264 kB04:41
Hobbseeyay04:41
mendredHobbsee: yeah thats the one i am using04:41
fritschklerfayt: her it is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-04-12 09:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord04:41
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fritschklerfayt: should not work eiter ;-)04:41
Sho_Hobbsee: For example, I'm unlikely to update my Dapper box to Edgy even if it comes out - it works, and Edgy won't offer anything that improves its performance in a meaningful way04:41
bepetemishfritsch: cedega tnx04:41
mendredHobbsee: hehe will do a dist-upgrade in 3 yrs :)04:41
Sho_Hobbsee: So I'm counting on that long-term support ;)04:41
HobbseeSho_: hehe, fair enough.  i'm sure there will be, once they fix the mess that is soyuz and backports.04:42
HobbseeSho_: currently, nothing is backportable.  or close to nothing04:42
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mendredSho_: there is a "wierd" backport repo i am using :)04:43
mendredSho_: it seems to work so far..but Hobbsee will warn u04:43
mendredSho_ :that u shouldn't listen to me :)04:43
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Sho_*g*04:43
fritschklerfayt: it does not find mine either04:43
martin_#zbh04:44
=== Hobbsee dealt with such a user in a bug report - "no, i dont have other repositories enabled, i havent used automatix to do anything crackful"
bepetemishfritsch: do i really need to pay for cedega04:44
fritschbepetemish: yes04:44
Hobbseethen eventually got a "oh, i'd installed this lib when i installed xgl, i think it was" - GAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!04:44
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Hobbseewhy couldnt they have told us that *first*!04:44
bepetemishfritsch: do you know another one good for playing games?04:44
larson9999bepetemish: what are you trying to run?04:44
mendredHobbsee:  Good point support would be a nightmare :)04:44
Hobbseemendred: exactly.  and who do you think sees most of the bug reports :P04:44
bepetemishlarson9999: im trying to run hitman blood money04:44
DaSkreechHobbsee: :-) Consumers may be right but users are often wrong ;-)04:45
klerfaytfritsch: it all started then I discovered I cant' burn cd's. Then I messed with chmod and then k3bsetup and still nothing04:45
larson9999bepetemish: oh, too new a game for me04:45
fritschklerfayt: i just put my cd drive out - put it in again -> working04:45
mendredHobbsee: Relax i never file such bug reports..i usually track them and fix them myself04:45
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fritschklerfayt: *G* dont do it while running, here it works because of ultra bay04:45
bepetemishlarson9999: what do you use to play games?04:45
fritschklerfayt: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-08-03 16:43 hdc04:45
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Hobbseemendred: hehe, right.  it's just the other users that do04:46
mendredHobbsee: I will keep that in mind before recommending "crackful" repos04:46
fritschklerfayt: now its working04:46
mendredSheesh what a term :)04:47
Hobbseemendred: :)04:47
Hobbseemendred: hehe04:47
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Hobbseemendred: i swear, some of the stuff i've seen is so utterly crackful it's amazing.04:47
mendredHobbsee: bug reports u mean?04:48
larson9999bepetemish: i play old dos games that run on dosemu or dosbox, scummvm, mame, or other emulators, or games that run in linux natively.  the linux game tomb is where i get most of the newer games i play.  i prefer not to try to get windows apps running on my pc.  the only exception i have right now is dvdshrink and accessing shockwave or flash 8 sites via wine and ff04:48
Hobbseemendred: or things in the repos.04:48
bugunuhi, does anyone know about the adept weird way of multi"tasking" or so? if applying some changes and while on Downloading the packages one goes back to Show Package List and marks one or more packages to install then there will be two /usr/lib/apt/methods/http and they seem to download the same first package or somehow invalidate it after it is done, it get with the .FAILED extension ; i dno maybe the two https are like this: the first tries to get the frist 04:48
bugunus to get the first and the second packages (since this is what I see just prior to applying changes the second time when I look at Preview Changes)04:48
bugunu:-"04:48
mendredHobbsee: u make it sound like a horror movie :O04:48
Hobbseemendred: some of the stuff i wince over.  really.  and i have seen some stupid bug reports, too.04:49
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Hobbseemendred: including "the artwork is terrible, hire some artists, and fix it"04:49
mendredHobbsee: forgive them for they donot know what they do04:49
bepetemishlarson9999: so you know how wine works04:49
Hobbseemendred: hehe...yeah...04:50
klerfaytmy adept_updater is stuck at "Waiting for headers 99%" - what should I do?04:50
fritschklerfayt: thtas okay04:50
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fritschklerfayt: just let him 5 minutes04:50
Hobbseeklerfayt: stuck on slow security repos, most likely  just wait04:50
larson9999bepetemish: kinda.  actually, the way i setup wine some consider blaspheme.  i use wine-tools.04:50
fritschklerfayt: security ubuntu is a bit slow04:50
bepetemishlarson9999: i want to play an older game.. i know i can get in wine with    winecfg   so i add the game and then what?04:50
gnomefreakfritsch: in dapper too?04:51
klerfaytwell, usually update is fast04:51
larson9999bepetemish: what is the older game you want to play?04:51
klerfaytok it ended and last thing had error04:51
DaSkreechlarson9999: Zork :)04:51
fritschgnomefreak: slowness of apt?04:51
fritschgnomefreak: yes slow tehre04:51
gnomefreakfritsch: the security repos04:51
larson9999DaSkreech: use zink for zork04:51
fritschgnomefreak: need a long time, but are working04:51
bepetemishlarson9999: its callt Gunz: The Duel04:51
mendredklerfayt: did it time out?04:52
larson9999DaSkreech: actually for all the zlib(is that right?) infocom games04:52
klerfaytI do not know but 2nd try worked04:52
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mendredklerfayt: cool :)04:52
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klerfaytthen it dloads "linux-image" - is it recommended to reboot?04:53
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bepetemishlarson9999: its callt Gunz: The Duel04:53
gnomefreakyes04:53
grothesk_klerfayt: This is a kernel update. Please reboot afterwards!04:54
larson9999bepetemish: hang on04:54
gnomefreakbrb smoke04:54
fritschgnomefreak: ist this because of the people pulling kde-354 from the server?04:54
bepetemishlarson9999: ok04:54
klerfaytgrothesk: why doesn't adept say it?04:54
gnomefreakno04:54
larson9999bepetemish: this one? http://www.gunzonline.com/04:55
grotheskI don't know. I did not code adept...04:55
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bepetemishlarson9999: yes that one and then the international edition04:55
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larson9999bepetemish: i feel old.  that's not an older game to me04:57
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bepetemishlarson9999: ow... well for me is XD04:58
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gnomefreakHobbsee: you got a sec?04:58
larson9999bepetemish: heck it needs dx 9.  well, i'll see if i can get it running04:59
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Hobbseegnomefreak: sure04:59
klerfaytadept is kde application? then why doesn't it respect my kde style settings and still animates progress bar?04:59
bepetemishlarson9999: ok04:59
Sho_Hm, could any of you packaging experts tell me how I could prevent apt from updating the kernel packages?04:59
Hobbseegnomefreak: i'm just patching kwin-style-crystal05:00
Hobbsee!pin05:00
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto05:00
HobbseeSho_: ^05:00
gnomefreakHobbsee: whats the chances of adding a k-www-browser of something of the sort to update-alternatives?05:00
Sho_Hobbsee: Cool, thanks05:00
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gnomefreakHobbsee: didnt know it was broken05:00
Hobbseegnomefreak: likely makes more sense to make kde read/write to x-www-browser, when it sets the automatic browser.05:00
gnomefreakHobbsee: the problem ther eis i have ff set because it works everywhere but on kde and its getting kind of old c+p'ing links to a browser (btw thunderbird dont work in kde either)05:01
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h3sp4wngnomefreak: Just change the default browser in kcontrol - and add the 2 lines to prefs.js05:03
Hobbseegnomefreak: ahhh...what's the default browser in kcontrol?05:03
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gnomefreakwhere is kcontrol?05:04
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Hobbseegnomefreak: alt+f2, kcontrol.  not on the kmenu, to answer the question05:05
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abattoirgnomefreak: Alt+F2->kcontrol->KDE components->Default Applications05:06
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gnomefreakok lets see if this works05:07
gnomefreaktest = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1959705:07
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gnomefreakeven setting it there it still opens ff05:08
simphello, can i install kubuntu from the hard drive?05:08
ricardohey guys ..i would like to know which repositorie you use to keep conky updated...05:08
zappixSimp: Wha?05:09
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zappixSimp: You burn the Kubuntu iso to a blank CD05:09
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simpwell can you install it from the hard drive like with windows05:09
zappixSimp: You then put the CD in your CD-ROM drive, and let it load05:09
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simpyeah but i don't have a burner in this pc05:09
zappixSimp: ......you can't install an operating system when there is another operating system running.05:09
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zappixSimp: Try getting a friend to burn it. That's how I got mine.05:10
simpno i didn't mean like that... you have another hard drive05:10
simpwhich contains the install05:10
zappixSimp: Windows has to be installed via CD aswell o_O05:10
simpnope05:10
zappixKubuntu is installed via live-CD05:10
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zappixThe CD runs Kubuntu05:10
zappixand you install Kubuntu running Kubuntu off of the CD05:10
simp1. i don't have enaught ram for this live thingy that is new...05:10
simpand05:10
simpno cd05:11
simpso can it install from the hdd05:11
zappixThen....you can either buy one or get someone to burn it.05:11
rulzsomebody help me im not able to compile any packages it says "in the prefix you have chosen are no kde headers installed " i have kubuntu lts 6.06 plzzzzzzzz05:11
zappixn0.05:11
simpfrom another hdd or another partition05:11
simpnot from the OS05:11
zappixNo.05:11
zappixYou see05:11
simpsure?05:11
zappixIf you installed it from another partion05:11
bepetemishlarson9999: what are you doing now?05:11
zappixYou'd have to format the hard-drive on install05:11
zappixwhich would wipe all the installation files05:11
zappixXD05:12
simpyou don't have to format the hole hdd05:12
simpyou can just format one partition05:12
gnomefreakHobbsee: here is a page open in firefox http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19604   here is the page seperate http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1959705:12
zappixwell the partion, I know.05:12
abattoirhmmm... not sure if there is an option to install from an iso in kubuntu...05:12
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gnomefreakjust so someone else can see what i mean :(05:12
larson9999bepetemish: i think that's going to need more work than i usually put into getting a game to run.  but there does seem to be a way to get it to work wine in.  just looking for a site that details how.05:12
simpand i'm talking about abother hdd to run the install from zappix05:12
zappixokay05:13
zappixSimp: The installer is a program for Linux / Unix /whatever based operating systems05:13
Hobbseegnomefreak: um, okay?05:13
larson9999bepetemish: and fielding calls from recruiters.  the market must have picked up because as soon as i put down the phone another one is bugging me05:13
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zappixYou're not going to be able to install it while running anything non-linux05:13
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zappixYou HAVE to be in Kubuntu to install it.05:13
simpno i didn't mean running something non-linux05:14
gnomefreakHobbsee: is it a ff or kde bug (ff works well everywhere else05:14
simpi meant booting from the hdd05:14
ninHerhi all05:14
simpboot the kubuntu files05:14
bepetemishlarson9999: well im going offline now.. gonna chance to windows now(dual boot) so maiby i talk to you later. I wrote your name down and will contact you the next time im here ok?05:14
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Hobbseegnomefreak: no idea at the moment...05:14
gnomefreakk05:14
zappixSimp: Not sure how to boot from a different hdd/partion than one with an operating system on it05:14
Hobbseegnomefreak: i'm assuming you mean teh blue stuff at the bottom?05:14
gnomefreakno05:14
gnomefreakHobbsee: i mean all the text not showing up05:15
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simpzappix that is easy05:15
gnomefreakand i cant get default browser to change without changing update-alternatives   (i guess i found some work) lol05:15
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larson9999bepetemish: sure05:16
simpzappix: and you could install redhat without any real cd... download the stuff while installing :)05:16
bepetemishlarson9999: bye05:16
zappixHm05:16
zappixDon't know =P05:17
zappixsimp: You can try it I guess...05:17
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l1nuxhi05:17
zappixBut if it doesn't work don't complain to me XD05:17
gnomefreak!install05:17
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:17
gnomefreak^^ theres a list of how to install05:17
rulzwhere are the kde headers in kubuntu?05:17
zappixTHAT works too05:18
zappixXP05:18
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zappixOkay now my problem. When I go to a site like Photobucket, or a forum, and have to upload something, I keep getting  "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read only file system"05:19
l1nuxpossible add some apps like mplayer linux-image... in apt blacklist, to not upgrade ?05:19
l1nuxor eny other idea ?05:19
h3sp4wnrulz: if you install kde-devel (meta-package) you will get most (all ?) of what you need05:20
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zappixAnyone have an idea? :S05:20
zappixWaoh05:21
zappixokay05:21
zappixWhenever I go to access my folders in Konquerer I get the message05:21
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zappixShould I just try restarting? o_O05:22
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Sho_Hobbsee: Hmm, the 3.5.4 update wants to install KSirc ;)05:27
tilixhi. Are there any known problems with i810 video ?05:27
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HobbseeSho_: it does in dapper?  i'm not in control of that :P05:28
tilixbecause the resolution stays at 1600x1200, the control center module doesn`t work05:28
supernixI don't know why but after the latest update of firefox I cant get it to work with my banks login05:28
Sho_Hobbsee: Yes, in Dapper05:28
BragiIs there a tool to change the voltage of my cpu fans? (ASUS CUV4X-D,VIA Chip,SMP)05:28
supernixYou click on the button that usually opens a new window to login and it just does nothing now but it was working before05:28
HobbseeSho_: interesting.  you'd have to ask Riddell about that05:29
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tilixand a silly question: how to get if my PC is 64-bit? I don`t know the configuration, because I get it from a sponsor for my project05:29
tilixBIOS says "64-bit supported"05:29
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zappixokay05:30
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zappixA quick reboot solved the proble05:30
zappixm05:30
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RiddellSho_: you're not a fan of ksirc?  that programme contains my first ever KDE patch I'll have you know05:32
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Sho_Riddell: I'm just wondering why you need both Konversation and KSirc installed ;)05:33
RiddellSho_: there's nothing depending on ksirc except kdenetwork05:33
grothesk_Riddell: kde 3.5.4 systemsettings is still a little bit rough.05:33
StFShello... I'm trying to upgrade to the KDE 3.5.4 packages but I'm unable to upgrade kdelibs4c2a because it depends on libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1)... I only have 1.2.0 of libcupsys2... anyone know if this is known or what?05:33
Riddellgrothesk_: it's not changed, not being part of KDE05:34
grothesk_.k05:34
RiddellStFS: you need dapper-updates05:34
RiddellStFS: sorry, I should have put that on the webpage05:34
StFSdapper-updates?05:34
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StFSRiddell: ahh I get it ;)05:34
StFSRiddell: hey don't be sorry... just many thanks for your great work on these packages :)05:35
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grothesk_Riddell: An what about mousegestures?05:35
blueyedRiddell: thanks for fixing the KDE 3.5.4 packages - http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is not updated yet.05:36
Riddellgrothesk_: what about it?05:36
Riddellblueyed: have you tried the packages?05:37
grothesk_Since 3.5.4 they do not work anymore, Riddell05:37
blueyedRiddell: no, but the warning is gone..?!05:37
grothesk_Even default gestures are empty in kcontrol/systemsettings05:37
blueyedRiddell: should I still wait?05:37
Riddellblueyed: no, you should try them and if they work I'll update the link05:38
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zappixHey, anyone know of like a really good program that can run alot of Windows programs AND DRIVERS?05:39
zappixOr just Drivers, or programs?05:39
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zappixI really need something to run my 802.11g USB adapter :P05:39
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grothesk_zappix: No go for windows drivers in linux (exept WLAN by ndiswrapper)05:40
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h3sp4wnzappix: ndiswrapper - use the latest version05:41
DaSkreechzappix: I know one!05:41
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zappixGrothesk: NDISWrapper won't work with my driver it seems05:41
grothesk_zappix: Then go and get reasonable hardware.05:42
h3sp4wnzappix: Use the recommended driver for your chipset05:42
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h3sp4wnzappix: And the absolute latest version of ndiswrapper05:42
Riddellgrothesk_: don't know about mouse gestures I'm afraid, guess they broke05:42
h3sp4wnzappix: Then if it still doesn't work ask in #ndiswrapper05:42
zappixokay05:43
zappixthanks05:43
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grothesk_Riddell: I'll crosscheck my kde-installation with a new user.05:43
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angasuleis anyone else having trouble updating?05:43
h3sp4wnzappix: Read the links in the top of the channel first (and make sure you are using the latest version) or you may get flamed (If you haven't read they may not be patient)05:43
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blueyedangasule: what problems do you have?05:44
zappixYse. :P05:44
angasuleboth in the semi-automated updater and in adept, when I 'fetch updates', it reaches 99% and then remains there, the application is responsive, though, I can click cancel, etc05:45
angasule"waiting for headers (99%)", and nothing happens05:46
blueyedangasule: the server's may be too busy, depending on your repos. Just wait or try "sudo apt-get update" on the console instead.05:46
gnomefreakangasule: known issue just wait it out05:46
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enzoangasule, I had the same issue. I just let it do its thing in the background05:46
angasuleah, ok, it has been happening for a few hours05:46
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adam__for some reason mp3 and wma tracks don't play 4 me in amorok or kaffeine. help plz? (i'm new to linux)05:47
tsdgeos!mp305:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:48
adam__but audio CD do05:48
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adam__"please use free formats" but what about youtube and other internet suff that use mp3 and wma?05:55
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mendredadam_: the restrictedformats links tells u how to go about installing mp3/wma support05:57
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mendredits not too hard05:58
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damien_Hi, I just noticed on the web site that kde 3.5.4 was released but http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is still pointing to 3.5.3 packages, has it just not been updated yet?06:00
larson9999adam__: boycott them and write letters.  the only way to get companies to chose and make stuff that is linux compatible is to show them they'll lose users otherwise06:00
larson9999just my view06:00
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h3sp4wnThe number of users they will lose is in significant to them (or they would change)06:01
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trappistalso we could make more free formats that don't suck06:02
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blueyeddamien_: yes, I've asked this also already. If it works out ok for us, we should notice Riddell and he updates it.06:03
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stephan_hi06:03
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blueyedtrappist: yes, e.g. using not the same extension for video and audio (ogg).. :/06:03
stephan_i updated with the bad kde update packackes, befor the warning was out, what can i do to fix that06:04
DaSkreechtrappist: How many suck?06:04
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damien_Ok thanks blueyed06:04
trappistDaSkreech: ogg is the only free format/codec I know of that's better than its proprietary counterpart06:05
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DaSkreechIt's not a codec06:05
stephan_somethin seem to work, i added the apt source form kubuntu.org and removed that one from kde.org06:05
stephan_no i want to update a lot of packages06:05
trappistDaSkreech: it involves a codec.  just like mp3.06:06
stephan_now06:06
blueyedRiddell: umbrello is broken: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" (/var/cache/apt/archives/kaudiocreator_4%3a3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1_i386.deb)06:06
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zappixHrm06:06
zappixconfigure: error: no suitable lex found. Please install the 'flex' package.06:06
DaSkreechtrappist: mp3 can be put in a ogg06:07
zappixWhere do I get the "flex" package? ;-;06:07
DaSkreechtrappist: You can't put an ogg in an mp3 :-)06:07
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trappistDaSkreech: ok then s/ogg/vorbis/06:07
blueyedzappix: apt-get install flex06:07
blueyedit's in "main"06:07
entropyhi all, i've managed to break my kdm login somehow, can anyone suggest how i can fix it? trying to login via kdm simply restarts X goes back to kdm-login screen. i can get into kde by doing a 'xinit06:07
DaSkreechxvid?06:07
zappixah06:07
zappixthanks06:07
zappixBlueyed: thanks06:08
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trappistDaSkreech: the new Real stuff makes xvid look ghetto06:08
blueyedzappix: too easy, eh?.. ;)06:08
entropyfrom my logs: kdm_greet[5072] : Internal error: memory corruption detected06:08
DaSkreechtrappist: cause it's new :)06:08
Riddellblueyed: got the full error?06:08
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trappistDaSkreech: even old divx stuff beats xvid for most purposes06:08
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DaSkreechpng :)06:09
stephan_trappist: you don't know what you are saying06:09
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stephan_xvid is one of the best06:09
trappistDaSkreech: ok png06:09
_[UniteD] _hi06:09
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DaSkreechSo we have covered audio video and images06:10
_[UniteD] _i have 1 question06:10
DaSkreechThat's pretty much all you need :)06:10
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trappistDaSkreech: we lost on video, and we've only covered lossless image compression06:10
_[UniteD] _which basic tools do i need if i want to compile from source ?06:10
DaSkreechpng is lossless?06:10
trappistpretty sure06:11
the-mouseih, everyone, can some one tell me how to make Konqueror makes a preview of graphical files when asking to overwrite06:11
_[UniteD] _gcc and what else06:11
enzo_[UniteD] _, sudo apt-get install build-essential06:11
trappistDaSkreech: just doublechecked.  yes.06:11
stephan__[UniteD] _: apt-get install build-essential06:11
_[UniteD] _thanks06:11
DaSkreechtrappist: Funny alway thought it was lossy06:11
blueyedRiddell: http://pastebin.ca/113457 (kaudiocreator error)06:11
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trappistDaSkreech: no, that's why pngs are so much bigger and better-looking than jpgs06:12
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ricardohi...how do u play wma files in firefox?06:15
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h3sp4wnUse the mplayer-mozilla plugin ? (I think that can do wma but I just open the link in amarok)06:16
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supernixanyone else having issues with the repositories ?06:16
trappistricardo: mplayer can play them, so presumably the mplayer-mozilla plugin can do it06:16
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trappistsupernix: yes06:16
the-mousehi, everyone, can someone tell me how to make Konqueror makes a preview of graphical files when asking to overwrite06:16
trappistthe-mouse: I'd like to know that one too06:16
adam__wut does waiting for headers mean in Adept Manager?06:17
trappistthe-mouse: I use gimv when I'm going to be doing a lot of that stuff.  it does previews.06:17
trappistadam__: it's downloading updated package lists, and the repos are hurting right now, so it's slow (if it works at all)06:17
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gnomefreakwhats the biggest difference between superkarmaba and karamba?06:18
DaSkreechtrappist: Ok list the propietary formats that need to be beaten06:18
mhterreshey guys06:18
the-mousegimp?06:18
mhterresanybody here is using KDE 3.5.4 ?06:18
ricardotrappist: it doesnt work....06:18
ricardomhterres: me!06:18
mhterresI'm having troubles with it06:18
supernixhmmm I see a kernel image update06:18
supernixIs that safe ?06:18
the-mouseis there s .4 version???06:18
DaSkreechgnomefreak: One wears glasses06:19
ricardomhterres: could you be more specific?06:19
mhterresmy "tray area" disappear06:19
mhterres:-)06:19
gnomefreaklol DaSkreech06:19
ricardomhterres:  you have reinitiate the kicker..06:19
zappixo_O06:19
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ricardomhterres: delete kickerrc file..06:20
zappixWINE takes awhile to compile06:20
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supernixtrappist: is there anything unsafe about applying the kernel image update ?06:20
blueyedRiddel: "apt-get install -f" has fixed the problem (kaudiocreator error)06:20
ricardomhterres: and the write kicker in the konsole06:20
supernixie it wont break anything or leave it unbootable will it ?06:20
blueyedzappix: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main :)06:20
mhterresok06:21
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ricardomhterres: kickerrc is in home/you/.kde/share/config06:21
mhterresok06:21
trappistsupernix: no idea what changes have been made, but generally it's safer to do it than not to do it06:21
supernixlol ok06:22
mhterresand the write kicker in the konsole - I don't understand06:22
trappistDaSkreech: flash and realvideo are the first things that come to mind06:22
ricardowrite: kicker , in the terminal (konsole)06:22
supernixI just wondered I knew a long time ago I was holding off because the kernel update that many moons ago would have broken USB support but we are talking years ago06:22
ricardoto launch kicker ..a new kickerrc file will be created...06:22
supernixshould I close all the programs before I start the update ?06:23
ricardomhterres: but you will have reconfigure your desktop...06:23
jan1024188hi all06:23
jan1024188is there anybody who use knoppix from usb stick key06:23
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trappistsupernix: were you maybe running an unstable version of your distro?  also, sometimes the kernel guys (and everybody else) make mistakes, but they release new kernels for stable distros only when there's a very good reason, and they do a lot of testing06:23
DaSkreechtrappist: Yeah Flash but .. I'm not sure what makes Flash technically superior06:23
mhterresricardo: how ?06:24
ricardotrappist: mplayer plugin is already installed but it doesnt work....06:24
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trappistDaSkreech: technically superior to what?  I don't know that there is a free alternative at all06:24
DaSkreechtrappist: There isn't any alternative free or not06:24
ricardomhterres:  how what?06:24
DaSkreechWhy do people use it?06:24
draikmhterres, K menu > System > Konsole06:24
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supernixtrappist: I can't recall seems like I was running libranix or something like Mandrake linux06:24
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trappistDaSkreech: because it's awesome06:25
draikmhterres, then type       kicker06:25
DaSkreechtrappist: Ha ha Maybe now but for the yeas between version 0.8 and 6 it was a pain06:25
trappistsupernix: I was on the mandrake security team for a while, and I do remember us making a big oopsie on a kernel update once06:25
trappistDaSkreech: true, because it's not free06:25
supernixlol everyone makes mistakes sometimes06:25
DaSkreechtrappist: No because it held out a promise without actually fulfilling06:26
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buzanyone running kde 3.5.4 and experiencing issues with kaddressbook?06:27
trappistDaSkreech: because open source hackers couldn't get their hands on it to fix it.  they had limited resources.06:27
jan1024188is there anybody who use knoppix from usb stick key06:27
jan1024188???????????????????????????????06:27
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zappixWINE is still compiling XD06:27
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dognewshi06:28
dognewsI have got 8313 photos and I want to sort them out with a programm on kubuntu06:28
DaSkreechtrappist: Well if it was at that point a really persuasive situation that people wanted I think that one would have come up06:28
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DaSkreechtrappist: I'll chat to the good people at mozilla about it :)06:29
firephotodid xinerama support break with 3.5.4? my windows aren't opening on the display with mouse anymore06:29
dognewsdo you know any good programms which are very fast to handle (e.g. setting labels with shortcuts etc.) - I mainly want to use my keyboard (not the mouse)06:29
poningrudognews: what do you mean sort?06:29
poningruDaSkreech: sorry?06:29
DaSkreechYou are?06:29
trappistfirephoto: from what I'm hearing, the 3.5.4 packages aren't really ready to go yet.  I'm holding off.06:29
DaSkreechWhat about?06:29
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dognewsponingru: e.g. putting a label "tree" on all the pictures with trees and another label "animals" on all pictures with animals...06:30
trappistdognews: I use gimv for photo management.  dunno how good it is with keyboard shorcuts though.06:30
aliasfreddognews: depending on your meaning of sorting, there is a kde apps which does that very well06:30
aliasfredi dont remember the name tho :)06:30
aliasfredlet me look06:31
trappistgwenview?06:31
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aliasfredi just remember this was pure kde and that the homepage got screencast for demo06:32
trappistkimdaba06:32
aliasfredhttp://www.kphotoalbum.org/videos/06:32
aliasfredtrappist: damn all those to handle photo ? :)06:32
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aliasfredin anycase kphotoalbum is the one i remmbered06:33
trappistalso kuickshow06:33
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aliasfredhttp://www.kphotoalbum.org/videos/tour2.html is the demo about 'how easy it is to annotate photos'06:33
guillehi?06:34
trappistyes, hi.06:34
guilleI have a quick question06:34
theresahi06:34
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guilleqhat program do u recommend me to read .iso .bin & other image files?06:34
soulriderhi everyone06:34
theresaanyone else having problems with Adept Updater today?06:35
draikread or burn?06:35
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guilleonly read06:35
guilleI used in win the daemon tools06:35
draiktheresa, just give it time. Its a big sluggish06:35
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draik*bit sluggish06:35
theresadrak: thank you, it started to worry me, but now i'm relieved ;)06:36
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draikhello soulrider06:36
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draiktheresa, sure np06:36
trappistguille: mount an iso like so: sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /mnt/point - convert bin/cue to iso using bchunk.06:37
theresakubuntu's real fun, i'm glad i've switched over ;)06:37
__osh____which is the "dapper updates" repository?06:38
kubuntutaotaotheresa: but i want to go lfs.:)06:38
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mhterresgreat, works :-D06:39
__osh____I only seem to have a deb-src with the line dapper-updates in it. Is that enough to update to kde3.5.4?06:39
mhterresthks guys06:39
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guilletrappist: is bchunk already installed in kubuntu?06:40
kubuntutaotao__osh____: must not be able to06:40
__osh____kubuntutaotao: huh? was that sentence cut short?06:40
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dognewsthanx everyone :)06:41
dognewsI'm looking at "kimdaba" at the moment and it seems to be a very nice tool :D06:41
kubuntutaotao__osh____: what's your meaning?06:41
trappistguille: probably not.  sudo apt-get install bchunk.06:41
guilleyup, i'm installing it :)06:42
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kubuntutaotaodognews: please write a article to us.:)06:43
dognewskubuntutaotao: what do you mean with "artcile"?06:43
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kubuntutaotaodognews: sorry,a article about kimdaba06:44
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guilletrappist: in what mode should I use bchunk? I wrote "bchunk "the bin file" "the cue file"" but it didn't create an iso file :S06:47
hsn_how can i make screenshot from kubuntu desktop?06:47
grotheskhsn_: With ksnapshot06:47
koshksnapshot06:47
grotheskOr press the print key06:47
dognewshsn_: press the "Print Screen" button on your keyboard ;)06:47
mark___how do i get my ca0106 to reapparate in the volume control?06:48
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theresakubuntutaotao: want to go lfs??06:48
dognewskubuntutaotao: you want to hear my experiences with it? the possible ways of using it? how you have to use it? or what? ... ;)06:48
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epyhi'm having troubles with annoying lines going thru toolbar in gtk applications like firefox, how can i get rid of these?06:49
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theresakubuntutaotao: whats lfs?06:49
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rainahi06:49
kubuntutaotaotheresa: DIY a Linux system06:49
mark___is that only me or does " www.alsa-project.org " not respond?06:49
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kubuntutaotaodognews: yeah.i hope you tell me some message06:50
theresakubuntutaotao: where can i get it?06:50
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dognewsmark___: alsa-project.org not responding here, too :(06:50
kubuntutaotaotheresa: www.linuxfromscratch.org06:51
mark___dammit :(06:51
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dhqi just installed lighttpd  i need it to point to my local directory how do i do it06:51
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kubuntutaotaodognews: i wonder what kimdaba is.:)06:52
psynthTried boinc and now my screen savers wont start ? anyone have a clue ?06:52
grotheskkimdaba? kde image data base06:53
markEis there a way i can see the manual from ww.alsa-project.org cause i saw it this morning?06:53
theresakubuntutaotao: thank you!06:53
kubuntutaotaotheresa: :)06:53
dognewskubuntutaotao: what about just looking at http://ktown.kde.org/kphotoalbum/ ;)06:53
trappistguille: `man bchunk`06:53
dognewskbuntuaotao: there is also a nice tut on http://ktown.kde.org/kphotoalbum/kimdaba-doc/en/doc-one-page/06:53
kubuntutaotaoqrothesk:thank you06:53
dognewsmark___: what about the google cache version? http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:TcHGjdnOmAEJ:www.alsa-project.org/+&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=106:54
dognewsmark___:it's not very new (27 Jul 2006 01:08:57) but there seems to be some content ;)06:54
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JabberWokkyAnybody think a 2 gig usb key can host an installion of Kubuntu + fairly standard office apps?  Or should I go to 4 or 8 gig?  (My SO's IT department stinks, and she doesn't want to haul her laptop in every day when there's a computer with Red Hat on her desk).06:57
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kubuntutaotaotheresa: do you feel interested with lfs? i feel interested very much,but i don't try it out now.06:58
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kubuntutaotaodognews: ok,i am looking at the site06:59
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theresakubuntutaotao: well, to be honest, i'm an absolute noob when it comes to linux, i've just moved from windows to kubuntu, and i pretty much like it...so I see no reason, yet, to upgrade from kubuntu to LFS...maybe one day though ;)07:00
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Martijn81anyone knows of a ubuntu package for asteriks?07:01
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danlanyone else having problems with adept getting stuck waiting for headers?07:01
zanupgrade from kubuntu to LFS? what is LFS?07:01
theresaLFS = Linux from scratch07:02
JabberWokkyzan: www.linuxfromscratch.org07:02
theresadanl: yeah, me too!07:02
theresadanl: what are the packages that you're having problems with?07:02
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zandanl: nope... mine finally starts finishes the work :D07:02
Martijn81danl: yeah me too, try it a few times and it will work eventually (at least here)07:02
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danlwas attempting to install the g++, build-essentail, and kdebase-dev stuff so i could compile this theme :(07:03
danllol07:03
kubuntutaotaotheresa: understand linux from kubuntu,it is good.maybe one day you can see my think.:007:03
zandanl: mybe there is a conflict... like between kdmtheme and kcoltrol-kdmtheme :D... is it? does he print a message? that there was an error? it doesn't say why!07:03
zanis linux from scratch better?07:04
danlno conflict, it just gets stuck waiting for headers07:04
koshI don't think that lfs is worth it to deal with07:04
danldid it on some packages earlier07:04
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koshand if you compile all the packages yourself then maintenance for security is a LOT higher07:04
matt___are there mirrors for security updates?07:05
danllfs = gentoo, but even more of a pain07:05
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zanis it based on gentoo?07:05
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unstablesobare there mirrors for security updates?07:06
koshit is not based on gentoo07:06
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grotheskRiddell: kde 3.5.4 works now, except for kde-systemsettings and the kfmclient links being broken.07:06
Riddellgrothesk: what's up with system settings?07:06
grothesksystemsettings is still crashing.07:07
Riddellgrothesk: everywhere?07:07
danli was just saying it's kinda like if you do a ground up install of gentoo, you compile everything07:07
Riddellor just that one?07:07
ccc_grothesk: works fine here07:07
Riddellccc_: KDe 3.5.4?07:07
koshhave you logged out and logged in again?07:07
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grothesksystemsettings crash even as an new user.07:07
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grotheskBut i copied over hotkeysrc so my mousegestures are working again.07:08
soulrider!kill process07:08
ubotuI know nothing about kill process - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:08
zananyone here tried a distro installed from scratch? like lfs or gentoo? do they really work that much better? :D...07:08
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ccc_Riddell: yes07:09
kubuntutaotaoubotu: what means do you know07:09
ubotuI know nothing about what means do you know - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:09
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Riddellccc_: thanks07:10
damjanwhen I try to update kde to 3.5.4, synaptic wants to remove kdelibs-bin package. Why?07:10
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soulriderhow can i kill a process form the CLI ?07:10
Riddelldamjan: because the package doesn't exist any more07:10
koshkill processid07:10
soulridercan i use the name there ?07:10
koshno07:11
__osh____soulrider: is it a gui? use xkill07:11
kubuntutaotaosoulrider: what means about CLI07:11
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aliasfredsoulrider: use killall yourprocessnamegoeshere07:11
soulrideri got severala depts running, but i cant see the widnwos07:11
koshaliasfred: NO!07:11
soulriderok, thanks07:11
soulrider:-/07:11
koshthat is a really bad idea07:11
soulrideri need to kill every adept process07:11
aliasfredmaouaoua07:11
koshif you have many processes with the same name that will wipe them all out07:11
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soulrideryes07:12
soulrideri want that :P07:12
aliasfredsoulrider: ok the command exists and works :)07:12
soulriderkillall adept07:12
faroussoulrider: use top to get the process id if it is hogging your sys07:12
koshokay you can use killall but be very very careful doing that07:12
aliasfredkosh: have fun man life is short :) :)07:12
soulridercan i gett he ID with k sys guard?07:12
ccc_Riddell: repository is misspelled on the kde 3.5.4 release page at kubuntu.org though ;D07:12
koshyou can even kill it in ksysguard07:12
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soulriderit wont let me07:12
damjanRiddell: thanks07:12
soulridersais permission denied07:12
koshah07:13
faroussoulrider: adept you need sudo07:13
koshalt-f2 kdesu ksysguard07:13
koshthen you can kill anything07:13
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aliasfredsoulrider: it is because the process you try to kill a process you dont own07:13
soulriderwhats kdesu07:13
soulrideri started it :/07:14
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koshkdesu is a program that is a graphical sudo program essentially07:14
soulriderahh07:14
aliasfredsoulrider: likely uynder root, aka after a sudo/kdesu07:14
koshsoulrider: actually you did not start it, when you run adept it asks for your password and then uses sudo to run the command07:14
kubuntutaotaosoulrider: kill `pidof <process name>`07:14
soulriderkilled them! :D i feel so  evil now :P07:14
koshsoulrider: when you start adept you are seing kdesu ask you for that information07:14
soulriderahh07:15
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zani get an error when i try to upgrade the kubuntu-docs... why is that? :(07:17
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__osh____Hmm, my kde upgrade is removing konqueror. That can't be good. Or it might. Let's see what happens now.07:17
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ubuntuhi07:17
kubuntutaotaozhan:that is not your mistake07:17
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kubuntutaotaozan: that is not your mistake07:18
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soulridernew KDE removes konqueror?07:18
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zanso it's a bug... 10x...07:18
soulriderhow are we supposed to browse files then07:18
koshit did not remove my konqueror07:19
lascari've been trying to upgrade to kde 3.5.4, but all the core apps and libraries are being "kept back;" I remember getting out of this situation in the past but have clearly forgotten.  Help anyone?07:19
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koshsoulrider: after you do the update just readd it back in07:19
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__osh____soulrider: I'm not done yet. I just noticed that during the upgrade it removed konq. I'll restart KDE now and see what broke.07:19
soulrideradept doesnt want to open07:19
farouslascar: sudp apt-get dist-upgrade07:19
zan:))... file browsing has been disabled in KDE 3.5.4 =))... it would sound nice :))07:19
koshlascar: in my case it was being held back by cupsys2 just a sec I will give you a command for that07:19
faroussudo i ment :)07:20
lascarty07:20
kubuntutaotaozan: that is cause that developer have not test good07:20
koshlascar: sudo apt-get install libcupsys2=1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.0607:20
koshlascar: try that07:20
lascarwill do07:20
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koshlascar: some packages will get removed during the upgrade, just make a note of them and add them back in afterwards07:20
lascarkosh: that version wasn't found on my system07:20
soulriderdid i just upgrade my kernell ?07:21
lascarwait, installling ;)07:21
soulrider:P07:21
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soulriderBRB07:22
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lascarfarous: thanx, the dist-upgrade seems to be working, though i'm not sure why.  That's meant for major upgrades (e.g. Hoary to Breezy), not for a simple KDE upgrade...07:22
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koshlascar: dist-upgrade is the one you should use by default07:23
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koshlascar: since it can remove packages in order to update others with upgrade can't do07:24
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lascarah07:24
farouslascar: dist-upgrade will remove conflicting packages while just upgrade won't and thus will force package to be kept and not upgraded07:24
zeredhi everybody07:24
koshlascar: so upgrade really can't upgrade a large interdepenent set of packages like kde07:24
zani upgraded my kernel too and had to go back to the older one... the new one sucked ass... it didn't boot :(07:24
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lascar::mutters:: just my luck, one of the servers is timing out07:24
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zanwhy can't i choose kde 3.5.4 from adept-updater???07:25
lascarheh, indeed i do07:25
CornelliusBecause it's not yet ready07:25
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kubuntutaotaozered: hi07:25
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kubuntutaotaozan: because your sources is not right07:26
zeredkubuntutaotao: hi07:26
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_Shade_!sources07:27
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:27
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_Shade_!easysource07:28
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:28
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osh_Seems to have worked... kde3.5.4 now. Had to do another dist-upgrade from non-x-console though.07:29
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kubuntutaotaozered: where are you07:29
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lascarfarous: i got a whole slew of updated libraries, but the same core apps are still being "kept back."07:30
mikearthurhas anyone worked out how to remove tabs in kopete?07:30
zeredkubuntutaotao: in France. And you ?07:30
kubuntutaotaozered: China.:)07:30
grothesk_*phew* kde 3.5.4 up and running (exept crash in kde-systemsettings)07:31
zeredkubuntutaotao: yeah ! You're my first chinese linux correpsondant !07:31
farouslascar: sorry have no idea my friend why?07:31
kubuntutaotaozered: i am glad to meet you.:)07:31
JabberWokkyIs 3.5.4 safe to install yet?  I assume the fixed package have appeared?07:31
abattoirmikearthur: Settings->Configure Kopete->Behaviour->Chat->Window Grouping Policy... ???07:32
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mikearthurabattoir: broken in Kopete07:32
zeredkubuntutaotao: thanx. Glad to meet you too07:32
lascarfarous: ::shrugs::07:32
kubuntutaotaozered: do you speak English?07:32
abattoirmikearthur: which version?07:32
mikearthurabattoir: broken in Kubuntu even07:32
osh_Like so many others I'd say that there's something up with the fonts in 3.5.4.07:32
mikearthurabattoir: was in 3.5.2,3.5.3, 0.12.0, 0.12.107:32
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lascarmikearthur: go to the configure window and select the Behavior pane07:32
lascarthen go to the chat tab07:32
grothesk_osh_: What is wrong with the fonts?07:32
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zeredkubuntutaotao: yes, I do. A little bit07:33
mikearthurlascar: then select "open all in new chat window" and it doesn't use tabs, but the tab bar is always still there07:33
lascaroh07:33
abattoirmikearthur: am running 3.5.4 and 0.12.1.... and am sure it worked in 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 w/ 0.12-beta1/2/3 and 0.12.007:33
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osh_grothesk_: They look a bit "thin". It's not the same as when I started the upgrade anyway.07:33
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abattoirmikearthur: oh, you mean the tab bar...07:34
mikearthurabattoir: aye, its not meant to be there07:34
`Leahhi im trying to install kubuntu alongside my current windows setup (without touching windows files)07:34
abattoirmikearthur: is it a kubuntu specific problem?07:34
`Leahon the partioner it says, "resize IDE1 and use freed space to install ubuntu" does that mean it'l use the free space currently on IDE1 or would it delete some windows files to make space?07:34
mikearthurabattoir: yep07:34
abattoirmikearthur: filed a bug?07:34
kubuntutaotaozered: it is a pity for football of the France in the cup of 2006.:)07:34
lascarthat depends on how you look at it: they won 2nd place07:35
mikearthurabattoir: will do, just checking I wasn't stupid07:35
lascarnot bad for a 32-nation tournament07:35
abattoirmikearthur: no... you arent :)... and trust me there are waaay more stupid bugs there :P07:35
kubuntutaotaozered: i am very looking up them, but pity...07:36
zeredkubuntutaotao: yes it is. But I'm not a soccer fan. I'm glad to have saw my team in finale !07:36
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lascarand they almost won07:37
lascarperhaps, should've won...07:37
kubuntutaotaozered: oh?did the France play soccer?07:37
lascarthe way i see it, the italians targeted the top french offense players07:37
lascarfirst, they fouled out Thierry Henry07:38
lascarthen Midfielder Patrick Veira07:38
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abattoirmikearthur: mention clearly that you mean the tab bar is present even if only one tab is open... :)07:38
lascarand then, of course, Zinedine Zidane07:38
zeredkubuntutaotao: yes of course. It was soccer. Football is for american football or australian football07:38
osh_lascar: mazeratti (sp?) did what he could and got zidane out. that was probably what got italy the victory. france was the better team most of the match. imho.07:38
lascarosh_: too true07:39
lascarparticularly in the second half07:39
CornelliusIs it just me or the repos are slow today ?07:39
lascarthe french practically owned the pitch07:39
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lascarCornelliuss: the latter07:39
osh_lascar: too bad zidane allowed himself to be provoked like that.07:39
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lascarosh_: it was almost certainly the tension07:40
osh_Cornellius: security.ubuntu.com doesn't work for me.07:40
kubuntutaotaozered: @_@ i am knowing that just now.admire07:40
lascar'twas the final match of the world's greatest tournament of the world's greatest sport07:40
lascarosh_: same here!07:40
Cornelliusosh_: Well, I guess it getting leeched atm. Hench the slow downloads.07:40
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lascararchive.ubuntu.com is slow too07:41
osh_lascar: probably. but he's supposed to be a _professional_ football player. that means to be able to handle preassure. imho they're both idiots, zidane a bit more so since everyone knows mazeratti is a foul-mouth.07:42
mikearthurabattoir: do I file it under kubuntu?07:42
trappistCornellius: getting leeched?07:42
Cornelliustrappist: A lot of people are downloading from the repos at the same time.07:42
mikearthurosh_: if someone said that about my mother, and I was in Zidane's situation, it wouldn't be a choice, it would be a reflex07:42
Cornelliustrappist: It's maybe why it is slow.07:42
lascarosh_: see what i mean?07:43
trappistCornellius: not to be pedantic, but 'leeched' generally refers to people downloading without contributing something back when they're expected to07:43
lascar(but i agree)07:43
Cornelliustrappist: Ha, well you get the idea :)07:43
trappistyeah :)07:43
osh_mikearthur: if random idiot tells you something about your mother that you know not to be true you'll react the same? I don't get it. I'd ignore them. Winning is more important than responding to untrue shit.07:44
mikearthurosh_: the point is, some people just have bad tempers07:45
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kubuntutaotaozered: i am going to sleep.bye07:45
lascarlaterz07:45
mikearthurwhere should I file a bug about kubuntu?07:45
osh_mikearthur: then they should get therapy. zidane probably lost the match for france. and for what?07:45
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mikearthurwhere should I file a bug about kopete, even?07:45
osh_mikearthur: lauchpad.net. what's the bug?07:45
trappistmikearthur, osh_, lascar: please take the soccer discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic07:45
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mikearthurtrappist: sorry!07:46
divansantanahey fellor kubuntu pals! ;)07:46
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mikearthurosh_: kopete tab bar problem, I can't file it under kopete07:46
divansantanacan anyone tell me if kde3.5.4 is safe yet to install?07:46
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lascardivansantana: ideally, you should wait a couple of more days07:46
trappistdivansantana: between the readme put out with the packages and the anecdotes I've heard so far, no07:47
divansantanaLast time i tried it messed up my system, i dont want to reload again07:47
lascarit's only a day after the release07:47
Stardoghow to get flashplayer working in konqueror?07:47
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divansantanariddel: or anyone, the website http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php said previously not recommended because of known bug, but now the banner is removed07:48
lascari'm out.  Thanx for the help, farous07:48
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divansantanadoes thi mean its safe? Anyone tried the new packages since the banner was removed?07:48
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divansantanathanks guys for the advise :)07:48
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grotheskdivansantana: Works (mostly) for me.07:49
divansantanagrothesk: mostly meaning? Cause last time it was really terrible after the upgrade, loses all its kubuntu settings, if that bug has been fixed then I would upgrade, im surprise Jonathan didnt put up banner saying bug has been fixed yet...07:50
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grotheskdivansantana: Update worked for me (mostly...)07:51
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osh_divansantana: I'm running it. No major issues that I've seen so far.07:52
divansantanaosh_: did konq and all the settings remain after the upgrade? when did u upgrade? thanks07:53
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osh_divansantana: I had to do an dist-upgrade after the first upgrade but things worked out eventually.07:54
aephihi. i got a big problem with your X conf. the default conf dosnt work and it seems to ignore any modus line i give him, is there any second conf or some automativ tool that overwrites my manual config?07:54
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divansantanathanks osh_07:55
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osh_divansantana: good luck. if you intend to upgrade that is.07:56
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aepxrandr -s 800x600 crashes without log entry07:56
koshI just did an upgrade here and it seems to be working fine07:56
divansantanaosh_ thanks, but im still bit nervous, use my laptop hectic for work, cant afford a mess up again. Last time it was terrible. Normally the upgrade is awesome and dont notice anything07:57
Stardoghow to get flashplayer working in konqueror?07:57
divansantanaosh_ or others simple question, did your KDM logn screen change or remain to Kubuntu default???07:57
koshStardog: sorry no idea on that, I consider it a feature of not having flash :)07:58
osh_divansantana: It looked like it changed a little.07:58
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osh_divansantana: but it was still the kdm login screen, no doubt about that.07:58
divansantanaosh_ previous BUG was KDM screen changed to say KDE and the splash changed to say KDE3.5 etc, it changes all your settings to KDE defaults. But it appears its fixed...07:59
mikearthurhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/5507907:59
divansantanamaybe I will try my luck(il kick myself it it does it again)07:59
mikearthurCan all Kopete users please view this bug, and see if you can reproduce07:59
divansantanastardog: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php08:00
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divansantanastardog: i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats08:00
Stardogdivansantana: thx :)08:00
divansantanastardog: kewl08:01
divansantanastardog: glad u trying konq its really awesome when you perfect it08:01
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aepwell,... is there any way to just make it work?08:06
Stardogdivansantana: yeah... i know.... but it takes some time, since i am a newb :p08:06
divansantanastardog: i can give you tips08:07
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divansantanastardog: Konq is awesome. has drawbacks you should no about that though. Doesnt support advanced webpages like gmail (fully) and some google websites. but will in future08:08
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divansantanastardog: other feature it doesnt have that opera does is ctrl+z which does undo when you close a window. I miss that but all else is good08:09
divansantanastardog: what you should do is get used to katapult and bookmark your webites with simple names like banking for your bank and you can launch your websites in seconds08:09
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Stardogdivansantana: k thx for the tips.... I have some troubles  installing flash from the link u recommended, but Im running an i686 structure.... do u think that makes a difference?08:12
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trappistStardog: no08:13
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cexarhi08:16
cexarjust a quetsion08:16
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cexarhow can i upgrade my kubuntu KDE to the new KDE?08:16
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cexarit appears KDE 3.5.2, i want KDE 3.5.408:16
h3sp4wn!kde-latest08:17
ubotuI know nothing about kde-latest - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:17
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cexarit appears KDE 3.5.2, i want KDE 3.5.408:18
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h3sp4wnlook at kubuntu.org08:19
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cexari did08:19
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h3sp4wnlook for the kde 3.5.3 announcement but change the 353 to 35408:20
h3sp4wncexar: Obviously you did not as the first link is about kde 3.5.408:21
osh_Sweet. Kubuntu boot-time is now cut in half. Takes about 1min now compared to 2 before. That's 1min from grub to logged into kde.08:21
h3sp4wnosh_: On edgy ?08:22
osh_h3sp4wn: dapper08:22
h3sp4wnosh_: Did you remove unnecessary services ? (surely just upgrading to kde 3.5.4 couldn't help that much)08:23
osh_katapult still refuses to work though. annoying. it worked well in breezy.08:23
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osh_h3sp4wn: actually all I did was upgrade to 3.5.4. I used to have about 1min to kdm and 45sec for kde. Now it's more like 45sek to kdm and 15sec for kde startup.08:24
h3sp4wnWhat does katapult get you that alt f2 and just typing the command into the run box does not ?08:25
osh_h3sp4wn: some speedup probably comes from breezy to dapper. I think I had a  bit over 2min there.08:25
stephan_hi, ok i updated know with the "good" kubuntu kde packages, but my kicker is still broker, ther is no "K" button, no "background process" items, what cann i do to get that backn?08:25
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BluesKajHowdy all08:25
stephan_h3sp4wn: katapult ist one of the best tools on kde08:26
TheGateKeeperIs KDE 3.5.4 fixed now?08:26
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osh_h3sp4wn: I used to be able to start movies from katapult. Just by typing the name of them.08:26
stephan_TheGateKeeper: should be, offical warning is removed08:26
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narasim_7hello...is apt-get update08:27
narasim_7working08:27
osh_TheGateKeeper: No major issues for me. Nothing that broke that I notice anyway.08:27
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ubuntuhola08:27
h3sp4wnosh_: The only time I tried it annoyed me that non kde applications could not be launched from it without messing about08:27
stephan_h3sp4wn: movies bookmarks mp3 everything with autocompleteion, it also does calculations08:28
osh_narasim_7: no. security repo is slow...08:28
narasim_7it is waiting for a long time and finally times out08:28
TheGateKeeperstephan_: osh_ thanx guys :-)08:28
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narasim_7osh_: but security repo is ok...my in.ubuntu.com repo is timing out08:28
narasim_7osh_: can i try other servers?08:28
TheGateKeeperosh_: you install it today after the official warning was removed?08:28
osh_TheGateKeeper: yep08:30
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osh_narasim_7: dunno.08:30
TheGateKeeperosh_: cool :-)08:30
stephan_no chance to fix my broken kicken, ich want it back, i have no taskbar, no k-button on it almost nothing08:30
narasim_7osh_: ok...guess i will have to be patient..thnks aneway08:30
stephan_?08:30
BluesKajnarasim_7, URL for the repos?08:30
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BluesKajguess he wasn't sure of it's stability08:31
osh_Hmm, I've found a problem. I think.08:32
osh_One package is Broken. It's kdelibs4c2a that won't08:33
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osh_...work and dist-upgrade doesn't seem to fix it. Something about libcupsys2... hmmm08:34
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cexarmany tree discussions08:34
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divansantanastardog: no it doesnt08:34
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cexarbut nothing really  cool08:35
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divansantanastephan_: thats the question ive been asking! u know answer yet?08:35
cexari make an upgrade08:35
cexarbut when i saw help--about kde08:36
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cexarshows me KDE 3.5.208:36
cexarthen...08:36
cexar?08:36
digitalslackerhi all, is there a command for X to auto detect a monitor's resolutions? I just got a new wide screen monitor and want 1280x80008:36
trappistcexar: what does kde-config --version say08:36
cexari dont know if the upgrade was succesfull08:36
trappistdigitalslacker: if you're monitor is supported, yeah08:36
divansantanaosh_ katapult works fine08:36
h3sp4wndigitalslacker: Just use the xfree86 modeline generator08:36
divansantanaosh_ you should configre the settings maybe, press alt + space and then cntl +c to configure08:37
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osh_divansantana: not for me. I've got a bug about it on launchpad. it has something to do with localization I believe.08:37
trappistcexar: also you probably have to log out and log back in for the changes to take effect08:37
divansantanah3sp4wn: a Million and one more things08:37
cexari reboot my machine08:37
divansantanah3sp4wn: its not even close08:37
cexarbut...nothinmg08:37
osh_divansantana: I don't even get katapult to respond to alt-space... :-(08:37
trappistcexar: 13:36 <trappist> cexar: what does kde-config --version say08:38
h3sp4wndivansantana: What is not even close ?08:38
stephan_divansantana: my log show nothing you asked me?08:38
BluesKajupdate manager is very slow today08:39
cexari've been looking for it08:39
trappistI give up.08:39
osh_Hmm, cupsys is 1.2.0 but kdelibs4c2a seems to want 1.2.1 or something. Oh well. Never mind.08:39
divansantanaosh_ if katapul open??08:39
divansantanado a pgrep katapult from cmd line08:39
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osh_divansantana: it's in my taskbar if that's what you mean.08:40
h3sp4wnosh_: there is an updated cupsys in dapper updates (if I remember correctly)08:40
divansantanastephan_ ive been asking at this forum cause am scared to upgrade and break my sys - AGAIN08:40
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stephan_divansantana: you can update, now08:40
divansantanaosh_ it should never be in your kicker bar08:40
cexarhow can execute kde-config?08:40
divansantanaosh_ try alt+f2 then type katapult then try alt+space and see if works - let me know08:40
stephan_divansantana: offical warning is removed, i updated first the broken packages, and the "good" ones repaired everything except kicker08:41
divansantanastephan_ have you tried?? This is my production pc08:41
osh_divansantana: katapult is running. nothing happens when I do alt-space.08:41
trappistosh_: do you have dual monitors?08:41
divansantanastephan_ kewl I hope it doesnt change my system. I just reinstalled to fix the kde 354 bug08:41
cexari got it08:42
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divansantanah3sp4wn: alt+f2 simply opens known program08:42
osh_trappist: no.08:42
cexarQt: 3.3.608:42
trappistosh_: oh.  I do, and katapult only works on one screen.08:42
cexarKDE: 3.5.208:42
cexarkde-config: 1.008:42
stephan_divansantana: for my everything works greate again, but the kicker thing is anoying08:42
cexarbiy invoking kde-config --version08:42
osh_trappist: ok. good to know. No, I'm on a laptop.08:42
divansantanah3sp4wn: katapult opens bookmarks, is a calcualter, opens amarok songs, opens fish urls smb urls, localtions, folders on your pc in home direcort, is quicker, prettier and a million other things08:43
trappistosh_: me too :)  with a separate external display08:43
divansantanah3sp4wn: its one of the best and my most used app08:43
stephan_wat can i do to reset kicker to the default settings?08:43
cexari guess it means upgrade was unsuccesfull08:43
osh_trappist: right. Never thought of doing it that way.08:44
divansantanastephan_kewl do you think that if I upgrade my kicker will be ok?08:44
trappiststephan_: mv ~.kde/share/apps/kicker/ ~.kde/share/apps/kickerold08:44
stephan_divansantana: yes i think your kicker will be ok08:44
divansantanastephan_ i hope so thanks08:44
divansantanastephan_ dont think there is much you can do, why dont you simply reconnfigure it correctly it is quite easy08:44
divansantanatrappist: good thinking08:45
osh_h3sp4wn: seems to have worked. The extra dapper-updates hint. Thanks.08:45
stephan_divansantana: i know, there is NOTHING to configure, its just broken08:45
cexarok08:45
cexarbye08:45
divansantanastephan_ cant you right click on bar? mine i could when it broke previously08:45
stephan_divansantana: but if i change sth in the configuration, nothing changes on kicker08:46
draikwhats a good photo editor, like photoshop?08:47
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trappistdraik: gimp08:48
draiktrappist, apt-get install gimp?08:48
trappistyep08:48
draikthx08:48
stephan_yea, gat taskbar back08:49
h3sp4wndivansantana: I am using e17 which has something similar (but not dependant on it being a kde app) I think alt-escape is a better key combination to use than - alt space (you don't need to move your fingers unnaturally)08:49
BluesKajcongrats, stephan_ :)08:49
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trappisth3sp4wn: you can do alt-space with both thumbs, or even with one finger!08:50
trappisth3sp4wn: but it's a configurable preference08:50
liviuxhi all08:50
BluesKajupdater is like molasses today08:50
draikyup08:50
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draikgimp is taking me about 5 minutes... so it sid08:51
draik*said08:51
BluesKajmajor fixes draik ?08:51
draikcould be. Dunno08:51
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trappistBluesKaj: he's installing gimp for the first time, not updating.  security.ubuntu.com is having a bad day.;08:52
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stephan_BluesKaj: My kicker is fixed again08:53
stephan_yes08:53
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: I got in at 9am this morning when everything was firing on all cylinders08:53
BluesKajok trappist, that's what I meant , I was only commenting on my situation08:54
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cpk2security was also having a bad night...08:54
BluesKajyeah security is still loading in adept08:55
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KDEfanboybesides kde packages, are there other packages kubuntu provides in addition to, or in place of ubuntu packages?08:55
larson9999security doesn't load lots of times for me08:55
BluesKajlike the old days on dialup08:55
cpk2dunno, could check the wiki08:56
BluesKajwhich for me was only 5 yrs ago ... dsl is in the boonies. I should be thankful :)08:56
cpk2hrmmm archive timed out08:56
BluesKajalmost there 95%08:56
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easterduckyHELP HELP HELP: I have to be in court in 1 hour and postscript printer (Lexmark Optra S 1885) is not working under KDE even though the driver is listed!08:57
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trappisteasterducky: what are you printing.08:57
easterduckyA memorandum of argument for appeals court08:57
h3sp4wneasterducky: Are you a lawyer ?08:57
trappisteasterducky: but what is it, html? tif? pdf? ps?08:57
easterduckyI'M DEAD!08:58
easterduckyI'M DEAD!08:58
easterduckyI'M DEAD!08:58
SpAwNeasterducky, u got a floppy driver or somthing08:58
SpAwNeasterducky, there will be a way to get the stuff printed08:58
easterduckyit'sIt's jsut a .odt from openb office.org 208:58
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trappisteasterducky: print from openoffice.org and choose print to file.  give it a filename.  it'll make a .ps.  the ps can be sent directly to the printer from the command line.08:59
cpk2easterducky: at worst you could probably just take it to some copy shop08:59
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easterduckyshould I try converting to <cry> MS-Worms?08:59
SpAwNeasterducky, maby u can save it as a more common file type and print froma  library computer or somthing08:59
easterduckynot even if I took a cab and eft itrunning...09:00
SpAwNor send emails with it attched to ya self with it attached then goto somewhere with printer and pring09:00
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SpAwN*print09:00
cpk2on the same topic, there are updates for cups...09:00
trappisteasterducky: less the-sky-is-falling and more helping-us-help-you might be in order.09:00
easterduckyI clicke4d 'save as' -- now what?09:01
trappistdidn't say save as.  said print to file.09:01
trappistbut, if it'll save as postscript that's just as good.09:02
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aephi my girlfriend is very new to kubuntu and she wants to know howto install kdegames09:03
easterduckythe drivers are saying not found or no admin rights -- but I am logged into the print GUI as root09:03
trappistaep: sudo apt-get install kdegames09:03
aepshe is listening, btw :)09:03
dr_willisor fire up adept and search for kdegames, heck - search for games.. theres a lot of them you can install.09:03
cpk2sudo apt-get install kdegames09:03
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cpk2oh beat me to it trappist09:03
aepdr_willis, tryed, no match09:04
dr_willisFrozen Bubble is kicking. as is  PySol09:04
cpk2!games09:04
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:04
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cpk2list of native games09:04
trappistyeah pysol is hawt09:04
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cpk2some you need to install yourself though09:04
dr_willisI like that Rocks And Diamonds game. Bolder Dash clone.09:04
easterduckytrappist, I printed it to a file, now what?09:04
cpk2i like wesnoth09:04
cpk2and kasteroid09:04
trappisteasterducky: try 'lp <filename>' from the command line09:04
h3sp4wnaep: She may like tremulous09:05
SpAwNor enemy territory...09:05
easterduckyas w007 ?09:05
aeph3sp4wn, yeah good idea09:05
bgrimmthis is likely been mentioned, but are the security.ubuntu.com servers down, (seem to have been inaccessible all day), are they mirrored somewhere?09:05
aepbut09:05
trappisteasterducky: if that doesn't work, visit http://localhost:631 and set up the printer there.09:05
aepapt dosnt find kdegames09:05
SpAwNh3sp4wn, tremulus is the new game based off q3 code right...the alien one?09:05
osh_SpAwN: don't you have to buy enemy territory?09:05
aepmaybe i have to insert the cd ?09:05
timthelionis there like a simple .sh file that I could run that would set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror?09:05
SpAwNosh_, abolutly 10000000% NOT09:05
cpk2aep: no09:06
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dr_willisSpAwN,  uea/09:06
SpAwNosh_, its open source now man09:06
osh_SpAwN: where can i find it then?09:06
dr_willisSpAwN,  yea  tats it.. makes me dizzy09:06
aepso what to do to make it find kdegames and stuff?09:06
cpk2aep: if you are using the gui click on fetch or whatever09:06
cpk2then try again09:06
cpk2if you are using command line do sudo apt-get update09:06
easterduckyHELP HELP HELP: I have to be in court in 1 hour and postscript printer (Lexmark Optra S 1885) is not working under KDE even though the driver is listed!09:06
easterduckyoops09:06
aepsec moving to gf's pc09:06
SpAwNdr_willis, hehe i got spanked at tremulous...couldent figure out the game controolls/point09:07
cpk2!info kdegames09:07
ubotukdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB09:07
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easterduckyroot@pondmeister:~# lp '/home/robberducky/Desktop/appeal.ps'09:07
easterduckyrequest id is DJ930-21 (1 file(s))09:07
rikiohaep : its in main package09:07
SpAwNosh_, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/09:07
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easterduckynothing is happening -- it's not even printing a testpage09:07
draikLOL... easterducky... funny name... sorry09:07
SpAwNosh_, thats idsofts bit torrent tracker.......pretty fast dls09:07
rikiohaep: i just looked and found it with adept09:07
buzeasterducky: if its a real PS printer try cat psfile > /dev/whateverprinter09:07
h3sp4wnSpAwN: I have not played it yet but mean to (I have download it though)09:07
dr_williseasterducky,  check the /var/log/cups logs perhps for a clue as to whats going on.09:07
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cpk2it will tab complete it in a command line too, just tried it09:07
SpAwNh3sp4wn, if its the alien one....game play isnt to great.....i couldnt figure out how to do everything....09:08
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dr_willisSpAwN,  thats when it pays to RTFM. :P09:08
easterduckyI'm trying to use CUPS should I try LPR or something?09:08
dr_willisSpAwN,  heh  - it takes some learning... then no one ever wants to be the alien09:08
SpAwNdr_willis, hehe ive tried so many BAD linux games...09:08
SpAwNdr_willis, i did i was an alient09:08
SpAwN*alien09:08
dr_williseasterducky,  CUPS replaces LPR.  so trying lpr - means you are using cups still.09:08
timthelionis there like a simple .sh file that I could run that would set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror?09:08
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SpAwN....coulnt figure out how to climb walls and crap09:09
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dr_willisSpAwN,  the in game helpo that said  'hit ctrl to climb walls' dident help eh? :P09:09
buzeasterducky: try the thing with cat09:09
timtheliondon't mess up your hair before you go to court09:09
SpAwNdr_willis, aboviously i over looked that...but thanls for the tip :P09:09
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SpAwNlol @ timthelion09:10
trappistyeah bad hair + no case = a bad day in court09:10
dr_willisSpAwN,  heh - it was shown right when ya spawn.. and so on..  :)09:10
buzeasterducky: what is the device of your printer09:10
SpAwNdr_willis, i musta been realy high when i tried it then09:10
dr_willisHeh - perhaps its new in the latest versions..09:10
timthelionput it on a usb key and print it out at the library on the way09:10
dr_willischeck dmesg, check the /var/cups logs, and perhaps restart the 'cups service'09:11
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easterduckyI can get the local web iface at port 631 but it asks for a login and root is not working09:12
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dr_willisthe cups web interface is disabled by default -09:12
easterduckybut I see all my printers (the other ones are broken)09:12
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easterduckyhow do I enable it?09:13
dr_willisand yes - i think its a stupid idea for them to disable it.09:13
rikiohwhen i install kdegames how do i launch it09:13
dr_willisThe ubunti forums/wiki mention how to reenable it..09:13
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rikiohcuz it doesnt show up in my kmenu09:13
rikiohand kdegames is not a valid command09:13
dr_willisrikioh,  i think that installed several games09:13
dr_willis!info kdegames09:13
ubotukdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB09:13
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Stardogwhen running nano i konsole; how to actually save and close? i see down some ^O to save and ^X to end, but what means ^?09:13
hans_Moin, moin!09:13
soulriderhi everyone!09:13
dr_willismetapackage = several other packages09:13
cpk2rikioh: there are lots of games, look in the kmenu09:13
abloylasdoes anybody know how to get wmv3 files to work through firefox?09:13
dr_willisStardog,  ^ = control09:13
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BluesKajhey soulrider09:14
Stardogdr_willis: thx09:14
cpk2in vi save and close is :wq09:14
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cpk2why couldnt they make it the same command as vi?09:14
dr_willisescape :wq       if in insert mode..09:14
dr_williswhy not  just use vi then.  LOL..09:14
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cpk2i do use vi09:15
rikiohis there a pretty nice photo editing program similar to photoshop or macromedia's big named art program09:15
rikiohthat i can run in kubuntu09:15
cpk2rikioh: gimp?09:15
dr_willisrikioh,  i tend touse gimp09:15
dr_willisdepends on what you are doing editing wise.09:15
buzor krita09:15
cpk2rikioh: you could try surfing around sourceforge09:15
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timthelionhow do I set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror so I can use java applets? I can allready type "java ***.class"09:16
rikiohim gonna be doing some artwork for school i got to a art university09:16
rikiohand i just wanted to see what was out there for kubuntu09:16
buzmhh i think you want real photoshop then09:16
cpk2wouldnt hurt to look at whats on sourceforge09:17
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dimsuzHi! Trying to run "X :1" as non-default user I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."09:17
dimsuzAny hints?09:17
dr_willisdimsuz,  you got to be root to start a new X session09:17
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dr_willisBUT you can do a similer thing i think with startx and the right options09:18
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dimsuzdr_willis: ok, then another question: why sudo doesn't work with non-default user? It reports no error. Just empty output09:19
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cpk2you have to let the user be able to use sudo09:19
dr_willisthe initial user is set to be the only one who can do sudo things.09:19
dimsuzcpk2: how? I just added him to 'sudo' group, but this doesn't help09:20
rikiohyou think photoshop would wine well?09:20
dimsuzdr_willis: bad. you're really sure about that?09:20
soulriderguys, do you recommend upgrading to KDE 3.5.4?09:20
timthelionhow do I set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror so I can use java applets? I can allready type "java ***.class"09:20
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gnomefreakrikioh: not real well no09:21
infocentrohi09:21
gnomefreaksoulrider: its ok still a few things that need to be worked out but feel free to test it09:21
dr_willisdimsuz,  try it... make another user and see if they can sudo09:22
cpk2soulrider: NO09:22
BluesKajNow, if I could just solve my openoffice install problem...hav broken dependencies that are in a share file which i don't have permission to edit or delete09:22
dr_willisI only got 1 user. :P so i cant test it.. lol09:22
soulriderand 3.5.3?09:22
cpk2soulrider: read the topic!09:22
soulriderbecause i still got .209:22
cpk2oh wait09:22
dimsuzdr_willis: I already have it :). don't work :)09:22
cpk2the topic changed?09:22
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soulriderlol09:22
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cpk2.3 is ok09:22
soulrideri hvnt seen KDE in the repositores09:22
soulriderat least not to upgrade09:22
BluesKajthere was a kernel update earlier but mine failed09:23
TheGateKeepersoulrider: Lphoto ???09:23
cpk2hmm i guess the worked everything out with .409:23
h3sp4wnBluesKaj: How did it fail ?09:23
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BluesKajthe repos timed out09:23
pettysorry to jump in guys....but I just downloaded the latest DVD....and it sits there for hours displaying "Booting the kernel".....I checked the DVD for integrity and is OK.   Is is a amd 64bli dual core system.....running gentoo right now.   Any ideas?09:23
cpk2soulrider: just go to kubuntu.org09:23
soulriderok09:24
TheGateKeepersoulrider: sorry wrong person :-(09:24
dimsuzso no way for non-root to start X? that's horrible ;)09:24
cpk2you gotta add a repo into sources.list the first post they have is how to do it09:24
h3sp4wnBluesKaj: make sure you have dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe (can't think of any other way you would have any issues)09:24
soulriderlol ok TheGateKeeper09:24
soulrideri added the ones in !easysource09:24
TheGateKeeperrikioh: Lphoto ???09:25
cpk2soulrider: just so you know though up until this afternoon .4 wasnt working with kubuntu09:25
BluesKajyeah got all those enabled h309:25
soulriderohh09:25
rikiohthegatekeeper: ill look into that09:25
soulrideralso, i think i saw my linux installing a new kernel09:25
soulriderbut it didnt seem to install or something09:25
clintonthegeekcpk2: and now it is?09:26
the-ermThis is such a simple question I can't believe I'm asking it.  How do you tell if you have an ident server installed?09:26
cpk2soulrider: pretty sure it holds the kernel updates back unless you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:26
trappistthe-erm: sudo fuser -v -n tcp 11309:26
cpk2clintonthegeek: kubuntu.org says its been released09:26
BluesKajin adept or in the term ?09:26
soulrideri enver used command line to update, and it still upgraded my kernel once09:26
trappistthe-erm: that'll tell you if it's running09:26
the-ermthanks.09:27
the-ermLooks like I don't have one.09:27
clintonthegeeki notice that dist-upgrade with the 3.5.4 repository wants to remove kdelibs-bin09:27
the-ermwhat's a good identd?09:27
clintonthegeekwhich is apparantly necessary for kde09:27
the-ermthere are quite a few ...09:27
clintonthegeekis that gonna mess things up?09:27
trappistthe-erm: sudo apt-get install ident-server will present you with a list09:27
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trappistthe-erm: apt-cache show packagename for each one to compare09:28
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soulriderthere are no mirrors in my country :(09:28
trappistyou need to get a new country09:28
SpAwNlol09:28
clintonthegeekhahaha09:28
soulriderlol09:29
soulrideror move toa  new one :P09:29
clintonthegeekit isn't essential that your mirror be located inside your country09:29
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SpAwNsoulrider, u speak good english09:29
BluesKajsoulrider, Uruguay ?09:29
soulriderthanks :)09:29
clintonthegeekbut it's good for download speeds09:29
soulriderBluesKaj: yes09:29
SpAwNsoulrider, i alwasy though u where american or canadian09:29
BluesKajcool! :)09:29
soulriderlol really?09:29
the-ermthanks trappist.09:29
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SpAwNsoulrider, yea your english inst that broken at all09:29
BluesKajspeaks better than some here09:29
soulrider:)09:30
SpAwNBluesKaj, yea09:30
soulriderlol BluesKaj09:30
SpAwNsoulrider, u do...09:30
SpAwNsoulrider, lol09:30
soulriderive been learning ti since i was little09:30
soulriderand i took soem international exams :P09:30
BluesKaj<<--Canada here09:30
SpAwNsoulrider, ahh thats probly why09:30
clintonthegeeksame here09:30
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superdum1hello, someone answered this question before for me but i forgot how to update the necessary packages. i have a kubuntu dapper flight disc and there was an issue in the partitioner in ubiquity. which ubiquity packages do i need to update and how do i do it so it doesn't try to update everything on the system?09:30
SpAwNim american and i love it =D09:30
soulriderthis was hte last one i took, http://www.cambridgeesol.org/exams/cpe.htm09:30
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soulriderand yes, i passed :P09:31
clintonthegeekso.... upgrading to kde 3.4.3 wants to remove kdelibs-bin... is that okay? or is it gonna screw things up?09:31
aepok seems she gave up. the screen is to smal to see antyhing09:31
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SpAwNsoulrider, if u offered me 100 dollars i couldnt speak a single word of what u speak?>..waht do u speak?09:31
clintonthegeekhas anyone else updated yet?09:31
BluesKajdept just updated with no probs , but it took 3 trys :)09:31
soulriderSpanish09:31
BluesKajadept09:31
SpAwNsoulrider, uraguay speaks spanish?09:31
trappistclintonthegeek: it's fine.  it's just a metapackage, obsoleted by the new version.  whatever it provides will be replaced.09:31
soulriderindeed09:31
clintonthegeekthanks09:31
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soulriderits in south america09:31
SpAwN*Uruguay09:31
soulriderno one knows where it is: P09:32
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SpAwNsoulrider, im horrible with locations....09:32
soulriderlol, its allright09:32
soulriderive been told its next to Poland.... so....09:32
SpAwNsoulrider, i though it was a:over in europe B; middle east or somthing09:32
trappistwe americans don't know out geography09:32
trappist*our09:32
SpAwNtrappist, no we dont :P09:32
soulrideri gotta install Google earth...09:33
dr_willisspeak for ya uneducated selfs!  I watch National Geographic channel! :P09:33
dr_willisI also got a world map mouse pad.09:33
BluesKajok , How do I delete a locked share file , it's root-root and when i try to dump it i haven't got permission ?09:33
dr_willis:)09:33
SpAwNdr_willis, i love the discovery and tlc09:33
soulriderlol dr_willis09:33
trappistBluesKaj: share file?09:33
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soulrideri watch lots of discovery and THC09:33
SpAwNdont get national geographic though09:33
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soulrideri got it, but tis not that good09:34
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soulriderat least not here09:34
dr_willisSpAwN,  Travel Channel has had some really good shows about Jungle Natives and so forth lately.09:34
SpAwNsoulrider, yea thc is good too....both kinda the kind u smoke and the kind u watch :P09:34
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trappistc'mon, guys, topic!09:34
SpAwNi been watching alot of that shark week09:34
superdum1does anyone know how i can update just one package and not its dependencies?09:34
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zappixOkay09:34
BluesKajtrappist, /usr/share09:34
dr_willisHeh.09:34
trappistsuperdum1: why would you want to do that09:34
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clintonthegeeksuperdum1: i think you can force it, but yeah, why?09:34
superdum1trappist: see my longer message above09:34
clintonthegeekit'll probably break stuff09:34
dr_willisforce it.. and it may not work.09:34
trappistBluesKaj: why on EARTH would you want to delete that.  your system will be broked.09:34
superdum1i need to update just ubiquity09:34
zappixAnyone here know how to be able to load a HDD Partion using the NTFS file system? My Windows installation is corrupt and I need to backup some files >.<;09:35
dr_willis!ntfs09:35
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:35
clintonthegeekwell... will ubiquity still work without it's updated dependancies?09:35
zappix>>09:35
BluesKajwell the open office broken pkges that are blocking my installation seem to be there09:35
zappix<<09:35
trappistsuperdum1: usually dependencies aren't kidding.  if you update a package without updating its dependencies, it's very likely to break.  if it can be done at all.09:35
zappixThanks :P09:35
cpk2i remember in middle school i had to learn all the south/central american countries capitals as well as europes =(09:35
superdum1*sigh* i know09:35
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cpk2of course i have forgotten almost all of it now09:35
soulriderme too lol09:35
rsosbornHello all09:36
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soulriderwell, not allt he capitals, but i allways confuse the nordic countried cities09:36
visik7is there a guide to unattended installation and slipstreaming updates ?09:36
superdum1but someone who was actually developing ubiquity at the time told me how to update only the necessary packages for installation09:36
soulriderhi rsosborn09:36
rsosborndoes anyone have a good link on a how to install OScommerce on Ubuntu09:36
trappistBluesKaj: deleting /usr/share is a very bad idea.  what exactly is the problem, and we'll see about finding the right solution.09:36
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BluesKajtrappist, the open office broken pkges that are blocking my installation seem to be there09:36
rsosbornHey soulrider09:36
cpk2but i remember things like paraguay and uraguay09:36
visik7rsosborn: first check for LAMP ubuntu and install it09:36
trappistBluesKaj: more specifically, I mean09:36
rsosborndone it09:36
soulriderive never been to Paraguay09:36
visik7rsosborn: thant unpack the tar.gz and start to config it09:36
clintonthegeekvisik7: you mean, making a custom install cd with upgrade packages on it?09:37
trappistBluesKaj: what happens when you try to install/upgrade openoffice09:37
rsosbornI have apache2, php, mysql, phpmyadmin, phpBB09:37
visik7clintonthegeek: yes09:37
rsosbornI just need shopping cart09:37
superdum1because the pre release dapper images had issues in the graphical installer regarding partitioning09:37
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cpk2its ok i've only been out of my state about 3 or 4 times09:37
rsosbornI'm noob09:37
steve444Hi - Anyone - I've installed kubuntu and xcfe on ubuntu - how do I specify a default session please?09:37
rsosbornso I little guidence would help09:37
BluesKajtrappist, the oppenoffice.org files09:37
soulrider!ntfs09:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:37
trappistBluesKaj: the openoffice.org files is *what happens*?09:37
BluesKajI get the broken pkges message09:38
TheGateKeepersteve444: it will default to whatever you last used09:38
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trappistBluesKaj: can you pastebin the exact error09:38
BluesKajok09:38
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steve444TheGateKeeper: thanks, but can I set a specific one to default without running it initially?09:38
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timthelionhow do I set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror so I can use java applets? I can allready type "java ***.class"09:38
zappixUnknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'09:39
zappixrofl09:39
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zappixdon't try experimental settings09:39
zappixT_T09:39
clintonthegeekvisik7: hmm.... taking a quick look around i can't find one... but what about a server install, and then apt-get updating to get the latest packages?09:39
TheGateKeepersteve444: sorry you have got me on that one :-(09:39
timthelion!java09:39
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:39
clintonthegeekerr... apt-get update, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:39
visik7clintonthegeek: I've 50 machine to setup09:39
visik7clintonthegeek: I don't want to upgrade each one09:39
jordan_Everybody: Can I install XFCE in to KDE and useing programe witch install in KDE ?09:39
dr_willisyes09:39
steve444TheGateKeeper: I thought there might be a conf file somewhere - Linux is new to me ;-)09:40
dr_willisYes you can jordan_  i do it all the time09:40
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soulrideri convinced my friend to make the switch to linux, and hes installing it right now :)09:40
zappixIgnoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab09:40
visik7clintonthegeek:  they are eterogeneus in hardware so I can't clone disks09:40
zappixAnyone know how to disable that?09:40
dr_willisjordan_,  there may be a few little features that may cause some problems.. but not many. Depenmds on the programs also.09:40
zappixlike unmount it or something09:40
trappistzappix: that happens when you do what09:40
dr_williszappix,  cpmmend out the /dev/hda1 line in the fstab?09:40
clintonthegeekvisik7: are they networked?09:40
jordan_dr_willis oki so install XFCE and how to chose XFCE on start ?09:40
dr_williscomment out.. :P09:40
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visik7clintonthegeek: more or less09:41
dr_willisjordan_,  its in the Session Menus.09:41
trappistdr_willis: that could be bad09:41
visik7clintonthegeek: isn't there kickstart or I'm wrong ?09:41
dr_willisjordan_,  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:41
TheGateKeepersteve444: probable is as it remembers what you last used, but I have no idea where it is or what it is called09:41
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soulrideruhm, the other day they posted about a  driver for NTFS that apparently is the ebts one around09:41
jordan_dr_willis i have kubuntu its no problem ?09:41
soulrideri think it had a 3 in the name09:42
soulriderdoes anyone know?09:42
zappixok09:42
zappixthanks.....09:42
soulrideri think  FUSe was needed to install it09:42
steve444TheGateKeeper: Thanks again. I'll do some further reading.09:42
dr_willisjordan_,  trivial.. no problem I install gnome/kde/xfce  as the first thing on every new install.09:42
BluesKajtrappist, http://pastebin.ca/11378309:42
TheGateKeepersteve444: someone else might, rephrase your question and ask again :-)09:42
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clintonthegeekvisik7: hmm... i'm not really experienced in network deployment, but yes, i'm reading that ubuntu does support kickstart09:42
jordan_dr_willis OKI thanks, do you thing XFCE it's faster then KDE ?09:42
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trappistBluesKaj: that's the whole thing?  there's nothing before it?09:42
dr_willisjordan_,  depends onthe hardware/09:43
dr_willisI perfer kde09:43
BluesKajthat's what synaptic generates09:43
clintonthegeekvisik7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KickstartCompatibility09:43
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nixwhois nix09:43
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trappistBluesKaj: try it on the console, as in apt-get install09:43
visik7clintonthegeek: yes but this page doesn't explain anything09:43
steve444Anyone - can a session (default desktop such as KDE, GNOME) be defined by editing a file somewhere?09:43
TheGateKeepersteve444: just a guess kdm.conf09:43
trappiststeve444: /etc/X11/default-display-manager09:43
trappiststeve444: that selects gdm or kdm09:44
jordan_dr_willis hmm p4 2,4ghz 756 ddr and 9800pro i think it"s oki for xgl/compiz09:44
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steve444trappist: thanks I'll take a look09:44
scottyhey. I'm interested in installing Kubuntu (I have the discs) but someone told me that 30% of the time, the partitioner nukes your hard drive. Is this true?09:44
clintonthegeekvisik7: hmmm.... i see what you mean09:44
trappiststeve444: ~/.dmrc too, for actual desktop09:44
dr_willisjordan_,  i would avoide xgl/compwiz  -  unless you just want to play withit.09:44
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dr_willisscotty,  ive never heard of it doing so09:45
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clintonthegeekvisik7: have you read over the generic or other-distro based kickstart guides?09:45
BluesKajtrappist, http://pastebin.ca/11378609:45
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visik7no09:45
clintonthegeekit's probably a lot of the same stuff09:45
rsosbornCan anyone tell me how to install oscommerce on ubuntu?09:45
rsosbornI tried but I can't figure it out09:46
visik7ok I'll check it out09:46
rsosbornI have LAMP set up already09:46
TheGateKeeperscotty: only time I had trouble was with a Maxtor that was bad/corrupted09:46
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scottyMaxtor?09:46
mwesudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove kdelibs-bin. wont that break KDE?09:46
dr_willismwe,  i  doubt it.09:46
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mweI thought it was the base for kde. I guess not then09:47
clintonthegeekvisik7: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s06.html#id2519042 is for breezy, but looks more practical09:47
TheGateKeeperscotty: Maxtor hard disk (maxtor is a make like seagate, western digital etc)09:47
aepi have a problem with my resololtion. the card is some ati (dinno) running in vesa . i run 800x600 wirthout problems but 1024x768 goes to some kind of virtual screen (you can scroll the edges) but no way to get it real 1024x76809:47
dr_willisnwe could be its going to install a newer ond.09:47
mwedr_willis: it says it will remove it09:47
scottyOh, okay09:47
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dr_willisaep,  its thinking the monitor is only able todo  such a low res.09:47
dr_willisaep,  check your monitor settings.09:48
scottyWould you guys recommend using a partitioner software rather than the one that comes with Kubuntu?09:48
scottyLike PartitionMagic09:48
aepdr_willis, nope09:48
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dr_willis:P09:48
scottywhy not?09:48
dr_willisa live cd + gparted is handy09:48
clintonthegeekvisik7: so.... it looks like you make a kickstart file, throw it on a webserver on the network, and at boot time on the ubuntu install disk, type ks=(ipaddress)/kickstarfile.cfg to start things rolling09:48
dr_willisscotty,  $$ for one..  they screwed me over once for another.. :P09:48
grotheskscotty: PartitionMagic is crap!09:49
dr_willisscotty,  and the live cds out can do the same job for free09:49
TheGateKeeperscotty: dapper uses gparted09:49
scottyI'm worried about my hard drive, though.09:49
scottyMy dad will kill me if his files get nuked.09:49
dr_willis Tips to install.. Backup impirntant stuff, scandisk/defrag.  use live cd + gparted to resize if you are worried about the installer..  then use the installer.09:49
grotheskIt b0rked several partions here. It' a kind of magic... >:-(09:49
dr_williscould just toy with the live cd.09:50
TheGateKeeperscotty: got money to buy another one and use a caddy?09:50
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aepdr_willis, the card made 1600x1400 with standart config of ubuntu, just erm it flikkers becouse it used ati drivers for some realy old card. i use vesa now09:50
clintonthegeekGParted Live is absolutely great09:50
aepdr_willis, and modified it on my onw of course09:50
clintonthegeeksaved me loads of work09:50
aepdr_willis, http://rafb.net/paste/results/7H9LZw95.html09:50
scottyTheGateKeeper, it would really be pointless ... I'm buying a new computer in about 10 months, and this one is a crappy one09:50
uber_mortHi all!  I was wondering if anyone know why I can't seem to upgrade 82 of the new K packages out.  When I apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade it just says 82 not updated.09:50
dr_willisaep,  hmm.. ok ya lost me. :P when i installed the ati drivers - i had to use that kde screen/monitor config tool to set the res's right.09:51
aepdr_willis, this crashes09:51
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soulriderwaht NTFS driver do you guys sugget to read/write?09:51
clintonthegeekuber_mort: what happens when you type apt-get install (the name of some of the packages it won't install) ?09:51
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uber_mortlemme check09:51
scottyAnother thing: When I run Kubuntu Live CD on my laptop, it doesn't recognize the driver for my wireless card, so that means no internet09:52
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scottyIs there a way to fix this?09:52
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dr_willisDepends totally on the brand of wireless card and its chipset09:52
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scottyIt's a cheap Dell wireless card09:53
scottynot sure about the chipset09:53
clintonthegeekcan you plug the laptop into a wired network to begin with, then look for a solution online?09:53
TheGateKeepersoulrider: there are howto's on the ubuntu forums concerning ntfs read/write09:53
clintonthegeeki.e. ndiswrapper09:53
dr_willislspci  | less  and see what card it shows. :P09:53
dr_willis!networkmanager09:53
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager09:53
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soulriderthanks TheGateKeeper09:53
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jordan_dr_willis can I safty remove xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-deskop use apt-get remove ?09:54
TheGateKeepersoulrider: hope it helps :-)09:54
dr_willisjordan_,  that wont really remove anything . those are meta-packages09:54
BluesKajtrappist, you there ?...http://pastebin.ca/11378609:54
timthelion!java09:54
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:54
jordan_dr_willis so how to remove XFCE or KDE ?09:55
dr_willisjordan_,  not an easy way that i know of..09:55
dr_willissince they both are several dozenif not hundered packages09:55
TheGateKeeperdr_willis: synaptic not do it as it knows dependencies?09:56
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dr_willisit dont UNinstall all the little packages of a meta package - as far as i know.09:56
timthelion!Multiverse repository09:56
ubotuI know nothing about Multiverse repository - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:56
dr_willisor course i never uninstall anything. :P09:56
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trappistBluesKaj: sorry got busy for a minute - I've run into that problem before with openoffice, and it was a bear to fix.  deleting files won't do it though.  try apt-get removing all your openoffice.org packages, and installing fresh09:57
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uber_mortclintonthegeek:  The following packages have unmet dependencies.09:58
uber_mort  ark: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1) but 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2 is to be installed09:58
uber_mortE: Broken packages09:58
BluesKajapt-get rm openoffice.org .. ?09:58
uber_mortDoes it have something to do that they're new packages for the new KDE release?09:58
clintonthegeekuber_mort: hmmm... probably09:58
clintonthegeeki remember having problems like that a few months ago updating kde actually09:59
trappistBluesKaj: apt-get remove09:59
dr_williscould be a server is down?09:59
uber_mortclintonthegeek: Shouldn't it upgrade KDE though?  I'd like to use the newest KDE09:59
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BluesKajok trappist10:00
psynthkubuntu or ubuntu, which is "lighter to run" ? with a laptop in mind ?10:00
nixpsynth: ubuntu10:00
dr_willishow big a laptop?10:00
fritschpsynth: guess what the kubuntu channel might say?10:00
Pablowhere do I change my mouse settings on my laptop? it has it set now where the far right side scrolls the page and it sucks10:00
Pablois there a way to change it?10:00
Pablotouchpad^10:01
clintonthegeekuber_mort: yeah, i know what you mean...10:01
dr_willisPablo,  heh - i see people asking how to MAKE it do that all the time.10:01
Pabloha10:01
PabloI want it on the left side not right :P10:01
psynthbut really its the same kernel right so is the KDE desktop lighter ?10:01
uber_mortis there a way to force an install?10:01
psynthor is it about the same ?10:01
dr_willis!apt-get10:02
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:02
clintonthegeekokay... i'm not sure, but what happens when you just apt-get install kdelibs4c2a?10:02
SpAwNscotty, i had it confuse my partions and it nuked everything i had be ware10:03
SpAwNscotty, if u use the live dvd to install...use the text mode to install...i only had probs when i used the gui installer10:03
dr_willisif you tell it to use all of hda , well thats what it will do. :P10:04
SpAwNdr_willis, i manualy did the partions and let me tell u....its said sda9 was sda5 anbd sda3 was sda6...it made my partion with everythng on it into a swap partion10:05
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SpAwNit also labled the size of my partion wrong10:05
dr_willis:)10:06
dr_willisI had windows xp try to install to my USB thumb drive once.10:06
berkesoi. e'ning piratees.10:06
jordan_dr_willis install it's finish so now reboot computer and etner to XFCE ?10:07
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dr_willisjordan_,  tip #1 - you rarely if EVER need to reboot.10:07
dr_willisOh well.10:07
dr_willis;P10:07
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dr_willisjordan_,  tip #1 - you rarely if EVER need to reboot.10:07
berkesany commandline users of ifconfig here? I am trying to make my kubuntu act better (more automated) on network connections.10:07
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jordan_one error but I'm use oper :http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firef       ox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 10:08
SpAwNdr_willis, lol i had the same prob...only winxp nuked my 120 external and tried installing on it10:08
dr_willisjordan_,  just logout  to the kdm/gdm screen.10:08
trappistberkes: might have better luck with a specific question10:08
berkesfor one: is there a simple way to ensure that an ifconfig eth... up runs a dhclient?10:08
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trappistberkes: specify it in /etc/network/interfaces10:08
dr_willisSpAwN,  then Xp decided to  make my usb-media reader start at C: and d: and so on for 14 letters... THEN windows installed to the next letter:  R:10:08
trappistberkes: and use 'ifup'10:09
h3sp4wnberkes: Why use ifconfig ? ip is easier to script I think10:09
SpAwNdr_willis, lol10:09
berkesh3sp4wn: yea, that is what I do, i am just trying to make it all a bit more "generalised". And to learn some linux ifconfig hackorty in the mean time :)10:09
KaiHanariberkes, yes10:09
KaiHanariberkes, i use ifconfig10:10
jordan_sorry how to  just logout  to the kdm/gdm screen. ? I'm lame i know :)10:10
berkestrappist: is ifconfig up not similar to ifup then?10:10
jordan_ctrl + alt _backspace10:10
dr_willisor use LOGOUT in the menus. :P10:10
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trappistberkes: similar but not the same10:10
h3sp4wnberkes: Why not use 'ip' instead of 'ifconfig' though10:10
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berkesh3sp4wn: what makes 'ip' better then ifconfig?10:11
jordan_how to listing radio on line in opera or XMMS ?10:11
wckdkl0wnwhat program will open .rmvb video files?10:11
trappistberkes: ip is newer and has lots more features10:11
trappistwckdkl0wn: my first guess is realplayer10:12
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berkestrappist: sounds usefull.10:12
trappistwckdkl0wn: my second gues is, google :)10:12
clintonthegeeki think realplayer is in the new cannonical commercial software repository10:12
wckdkl0wni tryed to install real player with sudo apt-get install realplayer but says its uninstallable10:12
essalrealplay10:13
wckdkl0wncant find package10:13
trappistI think realplayer is the package name, but you need the commercial repo(s) set up10:13
trappistor maybe it's just multiverse10:13
clintonthegeekhere.... read this for realplayer http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/10:13
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grizzlyIs it possible to disable "copy on select"10:14
grizzlythatis i whenever I select text its gets copied to the clipboard, is it possible to disable that ?10:15
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trappistgrizzly: how would you want to copy, if you did that10:15
grizzlyctrl+c10:15
trappistgrizzly: ctrl-c has a very different meaning than 'copy' in a lot of linux/unix apps10:15
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fritschgrizzly: this is a cool feature, why disabling it?10:16
couquinouxfranais?10:16
trappistcouquinoux: #kubuntu-fr10:16
grizzlycoz if I have to replace some text, I have to select  it10:16
clintonthegeekctrl+c is generally the "exit immediatly" shortcut10:16
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grizzlyand thats not possible because iit gets copied to the clipboard!!10:17
fritschgrizzly: okay, got it#10:17
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couquinouxthanks10:17
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grizzlywell i don't care if its ctrl+c or whatever.10:17
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clintonthegeekgrizzly: Klipper, the yellow cork-board thingy in the system tray, contains a list of all the stuff in the clipboard10:17
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Chaniblaa.10:17
grizzlybesides you can alwats use mouse gesterus (khotkeyss) to copy text in a flash.10:17
uber_mortsooo yah, i guess adept updated part of the kde stuffs, but not all, so now konquorer doesn't work for me10:17
slow-motionn810:17
uber_mortis there any way to force an upgrade?10:18
trappistgrizzly: anyway it doesn't seem to be a configurable option.  it's a function of X, which would have to be edited (as in source code) and rebuilt and reinstalled.10:18
Chaniooh, 3.5.4? yay10:18
fritschuber_mort: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:18
clintonthegeekso you can select something, select the thing to replace (and delete), and then use klipper to re-copy the thing you copied (although it's a pita)10:18
grizzlyklipper kind of sucks, you have to press shift+insert after selecting, the text to be copied10:18
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uber_mortI did that10:18
uber_mortit doesn't work10:18
trappistgrizzly: that could probably be changed to ctrl-c10:18
clintonthegeekuber_mort: did installing kdelibs4c2a he;[ any?10:18
clintonthegeekerr. help any?10:19
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grizzlytrappist: how?10:19
uber_mortI can't install them clintonthegeek10:19
Chanihmm. how prone to insanity is dist-upgrade these days? I tried it with debian once and it did all sorts of weird things, including switching me from gnome to kde10:19
uber_mortThe following packages have unmet dependencies.10:19
uber_mort  kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1) but 1.2.0-0ubuntu5 is to be installed10:19
uber_mortE: Broken packages10:19
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fritschuber_mort: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:19
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clintonthegeekargh... then what happens when you install libcupsys2?10:19
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trappistgrizzly: I dunno, poke around kcontrol/kdcop a bit and see if you can find it10:20
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clintonthegeekah yeah... you have apt-get update'd, right?10:20
grizzlytrappist: k, thanks10:20
fritschuber_mort: there were cups updates today10:20
uber_mortfritsch it won't update 82 packages, no matter what I tell it to do10:20
fritschuber_mort: sudo apt-get -f install10:20
uber_mortand now I can't use like a lot of KDE apps because it updated them but not some dependencies10:20
fritschuber_mort: can you paste me your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?10:21
uber_mortsure10:21
steven_trappist, when you select something with the mouse, do you know a way to past it like normal shift insert does?10:21
uber_mort!pastebin10:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:21
grizzlyoh, I just found the problem!! the problem was that klipper was syncing the contents of the clipboard and the selction!!! Phew this is such a relief10:21
aliasfred!restricted10:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:21
steven_sorry, past is with your keyboeard10:21
clintonthegeekaha... so it was overwriting the select clipboard into the copy/paste clipboard?10:22
Chanihmm. I remember hearing htere was some package that'll pull in a bunchofstuff needed for development. anyone happen to know what it was?10:22
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dr_willisbuild-essential10:22
Chanithanks :)10:22
uber_mortfritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1962210:22
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Chanihrm. adept could do with better handling of wireless dropping out in the middle of a download10:23
clintonthegeekuber_mort: whoa... you didn't have to add ALL the kde repositoreis10:23
Lord_Athurhi all10:23
fritschuber_mort: uncomment this: #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted10:23
fritschuber_mort: sorry10:23
fritschuber_mort: what is said by apt-get dist-upgrade10:24
Chanioh, foo.10:24
clintonthegeekyeah... uber_mort:also  uncomment #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse10:24
Chaniconnection hasn't gone down, but adept stalled at 'waiting for headers (99%)'10:24
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Lord_AthurI can't update my packages with apt-get, it doesn't work, it could be sth related to the servers I use, how can I make a list with the apt-get servers again?10:25
Chaniall the actual downloads are 100% but it's not going anywhere10:25
Chanioh. it went back down to 87%. that progressbar is a teensy bit inaccurate :)10:25
fritschuber_mort: and the kde reps are too much, one is sufficent, ill edit it only, okay?10:26
uber_mortok, I'll take some out ;)10:27
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DaSkreechShouldn't killall adept* kill all adept relate process ?10:28
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Raven301How would you remove KDE 3.5.4 and put kde 3.5.3 back?10:28
soulriderRaven301: did KDE 3.5.4 give you trouble ?10:29
uber_mortfritsch: K fixed the sources, but now its still not upgrading them10:29
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Just use ps | grep | awk | xargs - then you can almost always get rid of them all10:29
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Raven301soulrider: yes ... that's why I want to go back10:29
uber_mortfritsch: tried dist-upgrade and -f install10:29
soulrideri think ill upgrade to 3.5.3, im still in .2 :P10:29
hagusI am a linux newbie - (even though I have tried it several times) - and have an HP1100 printer.  I cannot understand why I cannot print to it even though it appears in my list of printers.10:29
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zappix!printers10:30
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:30
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fritschuber_mort: edited your sources.list10:30
fritschthis is now "readable"10:30
hagusty ubotu :)10:30
fritschplease try this one10:30
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zappix!usb10:30
ubotuI know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:30
zappix;-;10:30
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Something like ps aux | grep adept | cut -d: -f1 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9 (will almost always work better then using killall in my experience)10:30
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uber_mortfritsch: did you edit the paste bin I used?  Can I just refresh and copy / paste?10:31
zappix!internet10:31
ubotuI know nothing about internet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:31
zappix;-;10:31
zappix!USB10:31
ubotuI know nothing about USB - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:31
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h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Just make sure you have got all the pids before adding the xargs bit10:31
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ubotuI know nothing about 802.11g - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:31
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IbanezHi all....am very very new to Linux and ubuntu...have just left Windoze behind me...10:32
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: I just took off the * which seems to work10:33
fritschuber_mort: no! just reload10:33
fritschuber_mort: and paste, but save yours before10:33
clintonthegeekuber_mort: refresh, and at the bottom is a link to a revision10:33
clintonthegeekerr... ammendment10:33
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clintonthegeekfritsch: you took out quite a few repositories too, like beerorkid's compiz repo?10:34
fritschuber_mort: mmmh you use other packages from "other" sources, conflicts are possible10:34
fritschclintonthegeek: i took out the uncommented10:34
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: I stopped using killall because sometimes there are related things which killall doesn't find10:34
fritschclintonthegeek: added the dapper backports10:34
fritschclintonthegeek: this file was in no way readable10:34
clintonthegeekah... k10:34
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Well seems to have worked10:34
fritschuber_mort: conflicts are very common if you use third party sources10:34
clintonthegeekfritch: haha... yeah, it was a mess10:34
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uber_mortfritsch: Just saved your revision.  I'll try it now.10:35
clintonthegeekthat's probably what happened... package conflicts from too many 3rd party repos10:35
fritschuber_mort: first apt-get update10:35
fritschuber_mort: after that apt-get dist-upgrade10:35
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fritschuber_mort: it is important to let the apt-get update run finish10:35
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clintonthegeeknow... uber_mort might already have his installation borked though, even if the repo's are gone now, right?10:36
crazy_penguingood night10:36
fritschclintonthegeek: yes :-)10:36
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fritschuber_mort: everything clear?10:37
uber_mortfritsch: Yay!!! Its working :)10:37
fritschuber_mort: no errors?10:37
fritschuber_mort: you are doing dist-upgrade now?10:38
clintonthegeekuber_mort: congrats!10:38
gnomefreakfritsch: did you get the kde-settings update yet?10:38
uber_mortfritsch: none!  Thanks so very much :)10:38
fritschgnomefreak: no?10:38
fritschgnomefreak: is it in the official reps?10:38
gnomefreakfritsch: check for it. you might have to --force-overite :(10:38
fritschgnomefreak: where is the package to test?10:38
soulrider!nvidia10:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:38
gnomefreakits in the 3.5.4 repos10:38
gnomefreakfritsch: its on apt10:38
fritschgnomefreak: okay, here it is not suggested to me10:39
fritschwhich version?10:39
gnomefreakkde-systemsettings10:39
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gnomefreakhold on ill check10:39
clintonthegeekhey... while i'm here, does anyone else get loads of strange errors during an apt-get install, from debconf?10:39
fritschgnomefreak: this is my installed 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu110:39
gnomefreak0.0svn20060803-0ubuntu1_i386.deb10:39
gnomefreakmaybe due to edgy10:39
gnomefreaknvm :(10:39
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gnomefreaki keep forgetting10:39
fritschgnomefreak: no, not suggested at all for me - no new version10:40
gnomefreakyep its edgy package10:40
gnomefreaksorry10:40
clintonthegeekstuff like "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169", followed by Major opcode:  147, yada yada?10:40
fritschgnomefreak: k, no problem10:40
fritschclintonthegeek: this is normal, you do not have a wacom tablet, or?10:40
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clintonthegeeknope, i don't10:40
fritschclintonthegeek: this is because of the wacom device section in your xorg.conf10:40
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fritschuber_mort: you recognized also the new amarok packages?10:41
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clintonthegeekfritsch: actually, i do recall seeing something like that in my xorg.conf10:41
uber_mortfritsch: ugh!  Now its still saying 82 not upgraded (though it did upgrade something else)10:41
fritschclintonthegeek: the default dapper xorg.conf has it10:41
host-oneita10:41
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clintonthegeekfritsch: aha! thanks a lot10:41
fritschuber_mort: try this sudo apt-get install "one of the packages" he keeps back10:41
fritschclintonthegeek: you saw it?10:42
clintonthegeekyup10:42
clintonthegeekand will remove10:42
fritschclintonthegeek: if you delete it, remember to remove it "very down" in the section too10:42
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fritschclintonthegeek: if not, kdm won`t come up again10:42
wahjavahi channel10:42
uber_mortThe following packages have unmet dependencies.10:42
uber_mort  kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1) but 1.2.0-0ubuntu5 is to be installed10:42
uber_mortE: Broken packages10:42
wahjavacan anybody tell me how do I use my Ekiga account in KPhone ??10:43
wahjava:-S10:43
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clintonthegeekoh... also, every 5 or 6 reboots, X will backup my xorg.conf file (which uses the closed nvidia 3d drivers), such as "xorg.conf.20060711180723", and make a new one using the open non-3d drivers10:43
fritschuber_mort: sudo apt-get install libcupsys210:43
fritschclintonthegeek: this i do not know10:43
uber_morttried that too10:44
clintonthegeekwhich i then have to overwrite again to get 3D back... it's driving me crazy10:44
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uber_mortlibcupsys2 is already the newest version.10:44
uber_mort0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 82 not upgraded.10:44
clintonthegeekfritsch: hmm, ah well... it's not so big a deal10:44
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clintonthegeekuber_mort: pastebin what's not updated10:44
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uber_mortright-o10:44
xvxHell-o Under-World!10:45
fritschuber_mort: Version: 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06 <- this is the ubuntu version to go10:45
Stardogevrytime I try to download the driver for my printer, i get the errormsg that i maybe havent got the rights to download it... anyone know y that happends?10:46
uber_mortpastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1963010:47
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XVampireXHi10:47
XVampireXI have a question regarding shipit10:47
uber_mortfritsch: Not sure what you mean.  I just tried to sudo apt-get install libcupsys2, and it told me it was the newest version, but KDE says it needs a newer one.10:47
fritschuber_mort: do: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin10:48
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XVampireXCan I somehow order it to the mail post?10:48
fritschah, i understand, it`s your sources.list10:48
fritschuber_mort: do you have /etc/apt/preferences file?10:48
fritschuber_mort: what is written in there?10:48
uber_mortfritsch: Its empty10:49
dr_willisXVampireX,  mail post?10:49
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XVampireXdr_willis, well, post office, whatever10:49
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XVampireXMy point: Not home mail10:50
dr_willisXVampireX,  you mean a P.P. box ?10:50
fritschuber_mort: changed your apt-source list again10:50
dr_willisPO Box10:50
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XVampireXI guess10:50
fritschuber_mort: please try the new on10:50
dr_willisenter the PO Box address - I dont see why they wont deliver to one.10:50
XVampireXdr_willis, I ordered through shipit on june... It hasn't arrived yet10:50
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digitalslackeranybody care to help setting up a widescreen monitor to preferably not look like garbage?10:50
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dr_willisXVampireX,  I always download it. :P  find a friend with a fast connection.10:51
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Stardogevrytime I try to download the driver for my printer, i get the errormsg that i maybe havent got the rights to download it... anyone know y that happends?10:51
clintonthegeekokay... just upgraded to 3.5.4... will restart X, back in a sec10:51
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fritschuber_mort: sht. is going really strange10:51
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dr_willisdigitalslacker,  what monitor/card? theres a 'modeline generator web site' that can  help ya get the right entry for your xorg.conf10:51
fritschuber_mort: do you get errors while apt-get update10:51
XVampireXdr_willis, The problem is that I also downloaded it from a friend, today, a few minutes ago... came home, the CDs didn't work (And for some reason it didn't work AT ALL on his computer..)10:52
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uber_mortfritsch: nope10:52
fritschuber_mort: you use now the again updated version?10:52
digitalslackerdr_willis: that site wants a lot of information I don't have10:52
dr_willisXVampireX,  check the cd. whats on it?10:52
uber_mortfritsch: I am trying it right now10:52
XVampireXdr_willis, yeah, I checked it, it didn't burn well :P10:53
dr_willisdigitalslacker,  most of the time the defaults work for me there. :P i just set the res and the 9:13 or whatever10:53
fritschuber_mort: wait!10:53
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fritschsorry, dated up again10:53
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fritschuber_mort: but it has to work now :-)10:53
uber_mortfritsch: it didn't give me errors10:53
dr_willisXVampireX,  you dident make a cd with a ubuntu.iso on it as a single file - did you?10:53
fritschuber_mort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19633 <- use this one10:53
XVampireXdr_willis, No, it loads fine, just not when it tries to load live cd10:53
dr_willisXVampireX,  bummer.. not sure if you can do a text install from that live cd.. or if you have to have the alternate-install cd.10:54
fritschuber_mort: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (both sudo)10:54
dr_willisI always get the alternate install cd - since i perfer the text based installer.10:54
uber_mortupdating now10:54
fritschdr_willis: i do so too10:54
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XVampireXdr_willis, nevermind, I'll just order through shipit, again... though I think someone stole my previous order10:54
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fritschXVampireX: could be, it has just not arrived yet10:55
sorush20is there anyway that the dependencies when not found by ./configure would be automatically installed using apt-get ?10:55
dr_willisXVampireX,  or check the magazine rack. for linux mags. they proberly include a copy.10:55
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XVampireXfritsch, I ordered on june10:55
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fritschXVampireX: last year it lastet nearly 3 month for me10:55
dr_willisshipit - is not known to be fast. :P10:55
fritschXVampireX: got breezy 2 month before dapper10:55
fritschuber_mort: what happens now?10:56
uber_mortfritsch: Its taking a long time to update, says waiting for headers (its at 99%)10:56
XVampireXfritsch, Hmm, weird.10:56
dr_williscould order a copy of ubuntu and the other cd's and other disrtos from a place like cheapbytes.com10:56
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fritschuber_mort: normal, needs more than 4 minutes10:56
fritschuber_mort: mirror little bit down, but sould work10:56
clintonthegeekaha... just loaded kde 3.4.5, got a new icon in Kontact for multisynk, which errors because multisynk isn't installed!10:56
uber_mortfritsch: yes its moving again10:57
fritschuber_mort: moving?10:57
fritschuber_mort: does it upgrade now?10:57
uber_mortfritsch: its still getting package lists10:57
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clintonthegeekargh.. stupid question: which synchronization system is the new one? obsoleting all the rest?10:59
uber_mortfritsch: its still downloading package lists :P10:59
clintonthegeekkitchensynk? multisync? syncml?10:59
clintonthegeekoh wait... it was opensync, wasn't it11:00
dr_willisWashTheSync11:01
uber_mortfritsch: its at 99% on archive.ubuntu.org again hehe11:01
clintonthegeeklol11:01
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fritschuber_mort: i have to leave11:02
uber_mortfritsch: Alrighty, I appriciate the help a lot, so thank you :)11:02
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clintonthegeekuber_mort: so... when i was update'ing it took FOREVER on archive.ubuntu.org as well11:03
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clintonthegeeki ctrl+c'd it and tried again, and it worked, although i don't know if you wanna try that yet11:03
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uber_mortclintonthegeeks: It appears as though everything is working :)11:05
clintonthegeekthat's good11:06
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TheGateKeeperuber_mort: have you just installed KDE 3.5.4?11:08
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gabohola11:11
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:12
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ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:13
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nemo__can anyone be of assistance with "Winetolls"?11:15
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Hawkwindnemo__: The experts in #WineHQ probably could11:15
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wolfmanzwhats the command to get the kernel version ?11:16
aliasfredwolfmanz: uname -r11:16
wolfmanzthanks i knew it was uname something lol11:16
trappistman uname helps in those situations11:17
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nemo__thanks11:17
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alleeEdgy32wolfmanz: any reason not to try 'uname --help' in this case ;)11:18
wolfmanznever thought about the --help part :D11:18
trappist*cough* man page *cough*11:19
h3sp4wninteractively uname -a is all you would need - maybe if its for a script uname --help may be useful11:20
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alleeEdgy32anyone used RAID1 during dapper install?  Here it refuses to boot:  1st can't find /dev/md0. then when I change it to /dev/sda2  unknown filesys ...11:22
jmichaelxafter typing 'sudo apt-get update', what is the command to install all of the updates?11:23
aliasfredsudo apt-get upgrade11:23
jmichaelxaliasfred: ty11:23
trappistdist-upgrade11:24
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aliasfredtrappist: what is the difference ?11:24
dr_willisdist is for major upgrading! :P11:25
alleeEdgy32aliasfred: upgrade will never remove/add pkgs, but hold back pkgs11:25
TheGateKeeperalleeEdgy32: have you had a look round the ubuntu forums?11:25
trappistaliasfred: dist-upgrade will install *all* the updates, including those that require some packages to be removed, kernels, etc.11:25
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aliasfredoh ok thansk11:25
alleeEdgy32TheGateKeeper: not yet,  raid sync just finshed and I reboot.11:26
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TheGateKeeperalleeEdgy32: you might have more luck there :-) seen odd bit & pieces on RAID11:26
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bgrimmAnyone familiar with Automatix, evvery time I run (from the menu icon) it goes thru the 3 splash screeens then flashes & closes the next window (the console window to continue with password), anyone have ideas on how to fix that or what may have happened?11:27
sorush20hi guys , its taking a long time for the adept to start to download11:28
zappixUm11:28
sorush20what is trying to do?11:28
zappixConnect to the server? :P11:28
zappixDo you see any progress?11:28
captainbrailleEverytime I try to start Adept I get this "because another process is using the packaging system database" How do I close everything so I can use Adept again?11:28
TheGateKeeperbgrimm: yep it's good at breaking your system11:28
sorush20zappix: no I just have to wait about 30 sec or more for the download to start and after that its good ..11:28
zappixAh11:28
zappixThen why are you worrying? :P11:29
zappixIt works :P11:29
zappixIt just has to connect to the server11:29
zappixand be all11:29
zappixI'm downloading this.11:29
DaSkreechcaptainbraille: Ctrl+Esc11:29
bgrimm:) I figured as much, I thought perhaps it could be something I did, like accidently trying to run it from a console prompt, etc. would it be worth trying a remove & reinstall.11:29
TheGateKeeperbgrimm: what specifically do you want to install?11:29
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zappixDaSkreech: Aha, so THERE it is11:30
DaSkreechzappix: :)11:30
captainbrailleDaSkreech: alright 'Process Table' now what?11:30
bgrimmI've used it before to get the audio codecs working with amarok11:30
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DaSkreechDo you see anyting called adept?11:30
TheGateKeeperbgrimm: personally I would not touch it with a 10ft pole11:30
captainbrailleDaSkreech: nope there is no adept in the list11:31
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DaSkreechcaptainbraille: Do you have an apt-get/aptitude running?11:31
bgrimmsure. It does seem quite dangerous, but has worked for me in the past. This install, well, it just didn't work.11:31
TheGateKeeperbgrimm: nice and simple, run the xine engine, install libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs11:31
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TheGateKeeper!libxine-extracodecs > bgrimm11:32
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecs  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:32
bgrimmok, I'll check into that, thanks.11:32
captainbrailleDaSkreech: I don't think so I haven't started them, how do I make sure?11:32
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TheGateKeeperbgrimm: look at home page to install w32codecs za1012001.googlepages.com/home11:33
captainbrailleDaSkreech: There is a lot of "getty" and "hald-addon" -- Is that bad?11:33
Bragi_no11:34
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TheGateKeeperbgrimm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs11:37
bgrimmyep, got taht installed, working on w32codecs from that link you noted.11:37
soulrider!pastebin11:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:38
bgrimm(i removed automatix), did an apt-get install libxine-extracodecs, now I'm following along to wget the deb package for w32codecs.11:38
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grothesk_bgrimm: Get yourself a nice sources.list...11:39
cpk2is there any benefit to using apt-get source instead of just normal apt-get?11:40
soulrideris therea ny way to edit the repo list without adding line by line11:40
soulridermaybe a text file11:40
Daskreech2cpk2: You get the source11:40
bgrimmgrothesk: here is my sources.list  - http://rafb.net/paste/results/JbsmPI32.html - any recommends?11:41
cpk2you can just get the source from the project site anyways...11:41
grothesk_Well... Mine is much longer.11:41
cpk2soulrider: use that easysource link11:41
bgrimm:)11:41
soulridernot that11:41
soulrideri mean to edit them11:41
soulridernot just get them11:42
soulriderbut instead of adding one by one in adept11:42
cpk2bgrimm:11:42
Daskreech2soulrider: /etc/apt/sources.list11:42
soulrideradd thema ll at the same time11:42
cpk2pressed enter on accident11:42
soulriderthanks11:42
cpk2bgrimm: you probably dont need backports enabled11:42
TheGateKeeperbgrimm: this is what I use, the PLF repos need correcting to work: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:42
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h3sp4wnHas the plf not been shutdown ?11:43
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grothesk_bgrimm: http://www.phpfi.com/13699811:43
h3sp4wnthe w32codecs in debian multimedia is newer in anycase11:44
TheGateKeeperh3sp4wn: no I thought that but they just need correcting, info on my little home page :-) http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home11:44
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h3sp4wnThe stuff in debian-multimedia is newer in any case11:45
grothesk_w32codecs: 1:20060611-0.011:45
h3sp4wn(just rebuild any multimedia stuff you need)11:45
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cpk2whats the command to figure out what kernel version you are running?11:50
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mwewont removing kdelibs-bin hose KDE?11:51
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trappistdeja vu11:52
trappistcpk2: uname -r11:52
mweI'm afraid to let apt do it11:52
dr_willismwe,  if it does.. you reinstall kde...11:52
dr_willisbig deal. :P11:52
trappist16:16 <wolfmanz> whats the command to get the kernel version ?11:53
epI don't know how to access a ntfs partition /media/hda1 I get "permission denied". I think its already mounted (noob here)  I I don't know how  to browse it using sudo and or as a super-user11:53
trappistdon't think I've ever seen that twice in one month, let alone an hour11:53
cpk2trappist: thanks11:53
dr_willis!ntfs11:53
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:53
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alleeTheGateKeeper: silly me I better fix grubs root parameter not kernels  root=   option.  Now it works ;)11:55
dr_willisupdate-grub gets confused on my system. :)11:56
dr_willisit thinks the root drive is hda when its actually hdc for some reason11:56
TheGateKeeperallee: remind me what works?11:56
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alleeTheGateKeeper: booting from raid1 (after dapper install)11:57
BluesKajtrappist, I managed to fix my Openoffice install problem in synaptic by removing" Not Installed (residual config)" pkges . Then installing the pkges normally ... and it worked !11:57
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trappistBluesKaj: excellent11:57
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TheGateKeeperallee: cool :-)11:57
soulriderwher can i see whats hte latest kernel that was released ?11:57
soulrider!kenrel11:57
ubotuI know nothing about kenrel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:57
alleeTheGateKeeper: install wrongly used (hd0,0) instead of (hd0,1)  md0=/dev/sd{a,b}2 here11:57
BluesKajjust for the record , trappist , in case someone else runs into a simsilar prob :)11:58
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cpk2soulrider: just go to kernel.org11:58
soulrideroh ok11:58
trappistsoulrider: apt-cache policy linux11:58
trappistoh like THAT11:58
TheGateKeeperallee: ooops :-) glad you got it working11:58
trappistyou used to be able to finger @kernel.org but it looks like they turned that off11:58
alleeTheGateKeeper: me too ;)11:59
BluesKajso there is a kernel upgrade on the repos today ?11:59
trappistyes11:59
trappistgood luck getting it11:59
soulrideryea11:59
BluesKajok good to know11:59
soulriderapparently i downloaded it, but i did uname -r and im still using the old one11:59
TheGateKeeperallee: only ever used RAID on a windows server, and that was going back a few years now12:00
alleeTheGateKeeper: now the interesting part can start: setup FAI server:)12:00
cpk2soulrider: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:00
TheGateKeeperallee: FAI ??12:00
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soulridercpk2: adept isnt showing any updates12:00
BluesKajwell, I won't bother right now ...I'm puffed out from cutting the lawn and wrestling with my balky old mower :)12:00
alleeTheGateKeeper: fully automated installation.  (apt-cache search fai-)12:00
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dakoI am having a problem with adept.12:00
TheGateKeeperallee: ahh12:00
cpk2soulrider: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing?12:01
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epimeranyone know where akregator keeps its feed list?12:01
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noxshi there12:01
soulriderim insatlling somethign else, im gonna need to wait until adept is done12:01
soulriderjust a few mins12:01
host-one#cosenza12:01
sorush20hi guys is it just me or is the downloaded file here .tar.gz file http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/juploadr/jUploadr-1.0-linuxGTK-i386.tar.gz?use_default=kent12:02
dakoI upgraded to kde 3.5.4 and in the middle of the upgrade it stopped on me.I rebooted the system. I still have some upgrades, but cannot get into adept. When I try I get this error "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one"12:02
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trappistah there it is12:03
trappistsoulrider: finger linux@kernel.org12:03
cpk2dako: look for adept in ps aux12:03
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dakowhere is that I am kinda new at this12:03
cpk2dako: open a terminal and type ps aux12:03
TheGateKeeperdako: sudo killall adept12:04
trappistadept is one of about a dozen things that could be causing it12:04
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soulriderwhast finger?12:04
dakoi tried the sudo I got no process killed12:04
bgrimmGatekeeper.: Manually installing libxine and grabbing that w32codec.deb package worked great thank you.12:05
cpk2!easysource12:05
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:05
h3sp4wndako: remove the lock (If you have since rebooted)12:05
Daskreechh3sp4wn: Whats new in the debiain w32codecs?12:05
trappistsoulrider: it's an ancient unix utility to read a user's .plan file12:05
dakohow do I remove the lock, sorry for the questions12:06
TheGateKeeperbgrimm: pleased to hear it, much safer to install exactly what you want :-)12:06
soulriderah12:06
soulriderfingering someone isnt too fu... :/12:06
h3sp4wndako: Are you certain that there are no open programs using the database ?12:06
soulriderfun*12:06
dakoi see one that says adept notifier12:06
noxsis there another repository for flashplugin-nonfree as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/?12:06
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Daskreechtrappist: Did you give me that list?12:07
noxscause i cant get it..12:07
DaskreechOh Yeah I remember Flash12:07
DaskreechWhat was the other thing?12:07
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TheGateKeeper!flash12:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:08
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noxsarchive.ubuntu.com is very slow or completely unreachabel12:08
noxsble12:08
noxsah!! it works12:08
noxsgreat12:08
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dr_willisits having issues it seems. :P12:08
soulrider!nvidia > dek12:08
h3sp4wndako: dako: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock12:09

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