[12:09] <pihl`> when I access Wireless Assistant I don't get any wireless connections up (after I logged in with su password)
[12:10] <bl3ssing> so ... the new kubuntu 6 is in my hands. What else I do miss? :D
[12:11] <bl3ssing> let's see the newest firefox version. :)
[12:11] <Chousuke> bl3ssing: you should keep using the one provided by (k)Ubuntu
[12:12] <Chousuke> bl3ssing: you get backported security, and don't have to break package management.
[12:13] <bl3ssing> that's the one Chousuke  ... :)
[12:19] <bl3ssing> why is my Adept read-only? :(
[12:20] <bl3ssing> I tried sudo killall -9 adept, but ... nothing. :(
[12:22] <pihl`> do I have to install anything to get a wireless connection working? It says no networks found when I try access wlassistant with sudo
[12:23] <bl3ssing> why is my Adept read-only? :( I tried sudo killall -9 adept, but ... nothing. :(
[12:24] <Firetech> pihl`: you might need drivers for your wlan card
[12:24] <pihl`> yeah, it gives me the error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:24] <pihl`> where can you get drivers, then? :P
[12:25] <Firetech> pihl`: you need to know the card model
[12:25] <draik> Hello everyone
[12:25] <larson9999> bl3ssing: i delete the file in the message when i get that
[12:26] <pihl`> hmm
[12:27] <bigbill52a> my kdm is somehow corrupt...i  had to shut it off using the boot manager.  i now start up in a terminal window.  I can type gdm and start my log in.
[12:27] <pihl`> is there a way to find that out from within kubuntu? :D
[12:27] <Firetech> pihl`: the BadDevice thing has nothing to do with that, thatr's an X error (more info how to fix it at http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0 )
[12:27] <bigbill52a> how do i fix kdm
[12:27] <pihl`> ok, thanks :)
[12:27] <Firetech> pihl`: check if there's a kinfocenter in your k menu under System
[12:27] <bigbill52a> i have installed both gnome and kde on my computer
[12:28] <pihl`> yup
[12:28] <Firetech> pihl`: then start it
[12:28] <pihl`> it's up
[12:29] <Firetech> pihl`: OK, then select PCI in the list to the left (if your card is internal, or PCMCIA if your card is removable)
[12:29] <bl3ssing> larson9999,  how do you delete ... and what?
[12:29] <pihl`> it's pci
[12:29] <Firetech> pihl`: ok, there you have a list of connected PCI cards
[12:30] <bigbill52a> if i try to start up kdm, it goes into a loop and never loads either kde or gnome
[12:30] <pihl`> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [Airforce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[12:30] <larson9999> i get a filename in the error message and i just 'sudo rm that_file_name'
[12:30] <pihl`> I guess it's that one :P
[12:31] <Firetech> guess so
[12:32] <Firetech> pihl`: I can't help you to install drivers for that card, don't know anything about it... :/
[12:32] <pihl`> k ;/
[12:32] <Firetech> I recognise the name, thopugh, so you should ask around here...
[12:34] <Firetech> pihl`: google might know too ;)
[12:34] <pihl`> http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/downloaddrivers.php
[12:34] <pihl`> which one should I download of them? Linux?
[12:36] <Firetech> pihl`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear <-- that might help you :)
[12:36] <pihl`> thanks :)
[12:37] <Firetech> it's a bit gnome oriented though...
[12:38] <Firetech> pihl`: you should skip step 5
[12:38] <pihl`> ok
[12:38] <Firetech> wlassistant can do that for you
[12:40] <Firetech> now I'm going to bed. night people (morning to some and g'day to some others...) :)
[12:40] <soulrider> hi!
[12:43] <bl3ssing> larson9999,  how do you delete ... and what?
[12:43] <bl3ssing> larson9999, are you still alive?
[12:43] <bl3ssing> :)
[12:44] <soulrider> bl3ssing: what do you need to delete ?
[12:44] <bl3ssing> I want to get into Adept with full right, not read only. And larson9999 said that: "larson9999 bl3ssing: i delete the file in the message when i get that"
[12:45] <bl3ssing> soulrider, I asked him again about what he mean .. and he didn't answer. Maybe's too busy or ... something comes up?
[12:45] <soulrider> dunno, i enver had a problem
[12:45] <rr72> is this only for kubuntu help or for kubuntu packs for other applications?
[12:45] <soulrider> i suggest you go into groups and users
[12:45] <soulrider> and edit your permissions
[12:46] <soulrider> rr72 i dont see why you cant ask about other stuff
[12:46] <rr72> Hawkwind may get  upset
[12:47] <soulrider> i mean, if its not too offtopic i dont see why its wrong
[12:48] <Hawkwind> rr72: If you obey the rules and don't talk about offtopic stuff then you're fine.  You seem to get offtopic quite often is the problem and that's what gets you banned from other channels
[12:48] <rr72> but people will just tell me to go to the channel im in getting no help and already on the ops ignore list soon to be banned for asking for help
[12:49] <soulrider> rr72:  PM me adn ill see if i can help you
[12:49] <bl3ssing> soulrider, how can I change my status in a root?
[12:49] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu stuff is on topic Ubuntu stuff is allowed Linux stuff drawn out can be offtopic Guns and grabbing warez -> offtopic
[12:49] <rr72> i doubt it
[12:49] <gnomefreak> rr72: if you need support give us what we can help you with if its not kubuntu(ubuntu) releated you will be redirected to kubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <rr72> i know a little more than u do ;)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> rr72: your attitude isnt gonna help you
[12:50] <rr72> having  trouble with wine
[12:50] <soulrider> i dunno then
[12:50] <gnomefreak> rr72: try #winehq
[12:50] <cow_2001> i have this problem - when i'm not moving the mouse stuff on screen move a lot slower
[12:50] <soulrider> bl3ssing:  go to your system settings
[12:50] <rr72> gnomefreak~ i am almost banned tehre
[12:50] <bl3ssing> cow_2001, unplug your mouse, than plug it again. :D
[12:50] <archangel_> gnome sucks
[12:50] <rr72> soulrider~ didnt i tell u id be directed to a dif chan
[12:51] <gnomefreak> rr72: your comment stopped me from helping youw ith wine ( i guess you will need to ajust your attitude)
[12:51] <gnomefreak> adjust*
[12:51] <soulrider> lol
[12:51] <cow_2001> it's a touchpad
[12:51] <cow_2001> on an inspiron 6000 Dell laptop
[12:51] <soulrider> bl3ssing: go to your system settings, then Users and Groups and adjust there
[12:51] <bl3ssing> soulrider, i went there and i've found my username. I tried to change it .. but how? I clicked modify ... :(
[12:51] <cow_2001> so i can't unplug it as easily as a regular mouse
[12:51] <rr72> gnomefreak~ u know howmany times ive heard that in real life compared to IRC, i lot less in RL then IRC
[12:51] <soulrider> you cans et your groups and persmissions
[12:51] <archangel_> anyone here have an old Pionex pc?
[12:51] <soulrider> click on the administrator mode button
[12:52] <fritsch> rr72: same as before on #kde
[12:52] <TheHighChild> gnomefreak: I think, not sure, that he was talking to soulrider with that comment
[12:52] <archangel_> wondering how well linux ran on it
[12:52] <gnomefreak> TheHighChild: i know who he was talking to
[12:52] <soulrider> rr72 know more a lot abut this than i do
[12:53] <soulrider> im newbie ;D
[12:53] <gnomefreak> TheHighChild: i wont help him due to his attitude so i sent him to #winehq ;)
[12:53] <rr72> fritsch~ im not surprised if tehre are secret underground cult haters of rr72
[12:53] <fritsch> rr72: its just funny, you join a channel and tell everyone, how many people hate you
[12:53] <soulrider> is therea  way to put a console window int he desktop but kind of make it not move, just stay there
[12:53] <soulrider> and maybe transparent
[12:54] <fritsch> soulrider: perhaps there exists a superkaramba plugin
[12:54] <Hawkwind> Guys, the best thing to do is just ignore him.  He's nothing but a troll and gets banned from practically every channel he visits
[12:54] <soulrider> superkaramba? LOL
[12:54] <TheHighChild> soulrider: You can change transparency in Settings > configure konsole as for having it in a fixed position right click on the title bar > keep above other windows
[12:54] <gnomefreak> rr72: 10 minute mute
[12:55] <soulrider> thanks THX
[12:55] <soulrider> THC*
[12:55] <cow_2001> bl3ssing, it's a touchpad
[12:55] <TheHighChild> soulrider: It's eye candy for KDE. I don't know of a terminal/konsoleplugin though
[12:55] <fritsch> Hawkwind: we could improve his freetime and let him do binary search in an unbalanced avl tree
[12:56] <TheHighChild> soulrider: Understand that it is not true transparency, it's emulated. Say, you have a desktop icon that is all covered up with a konsole on top. You will see your desktop icon through the konsole, despite the other windows between the konsole and the desktop
[12:56] <soulrider> i just founda  program that looks pretty useful, slurm
[12:57] <soulrider> but its command line and i would like to kind of have it in my desktop allt he time
[12:57] <soulrider> ohh
[12:57] <Kronoz> http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php < 6.06 release notes is a broken link
[12:57] <gnomefreak> 6.08 try
[12:58] <soulrider> !karamba
[12:58] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[12:58] <fritsch> soulrider: sorry, there does not exist a konsole plugin for superkaramba
[12:58] <soulrider> ok
[12:58] <fritsch> soulrider: but other useful eye candy stuff
[12:58] <soulrider> i guess knetlaod is enough
[12:58] <fritsch> soulrider: wanted to say "usefull" quoted
[12:59] <fritsch> k
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ook back to breaking stuff the mute will be removed when the 10 mins are up
[12:59] <TheHighChild> LOL too funny
[12:59] <soulrider> if i want to chaneg the KDE theme im gonna need karamba right?
[01:00] <cpk2> no
[01:00] <fritsch> no
[01:00] <soulrider> uhm
[01:00] <soulrider> confusuion... :/
[01:00] <fritsch> soulrider: this superkaramba stuff is just addon eye candy
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> karamba is just a 'widget' server/programs
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> :_
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> kde is very themeable by itself.
[01:00] <fritsch> soulrider: you can change your theme in control center
[01:00] <TheHighChild> It's an app that has plugins like dashboard on OSX, it's not a theme manager, just an plugin manager
[01:00] <soulrider> oh, cool
[01:00] <cpk2> soulrider: theme manager
[01:00] <fritsch> gnomefreak: btw. 3.5.4 got fixed
[01:00] <cpk2> in system settings
[01:01] <soulrider> is appearance the same ?
[01:01] <fritsch> gnomefreak: just had to be rebuiled, raphink did this and fine ;-)
[01:01] <the-erm> I just got done installing Kubuntu.  Strange thing was, when I installed it, it didn't ask me to set the root password.
[01:01] <the-erm> Just add 1 user.
[01:01] <the-erm> So ... what do you do about that?
[01:01] <cpk2> you use sudo
[01:01] <fritsch> !root
[01:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:02] <soulrider> KDE is so customizable...
[01:02] <DaSkreech> !root
[01:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:02] <the-erm> so sudo passwd  to change the pasword?
[01:03] <fritsch> the-erm: no just use sudo for root operations
[01:03] <fritsch> the-erm: or sudo su
[01:03] <Lars_G> !tuneimp
[01:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about tuneimp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:03] <Lars_G> !tunepimp
[01:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about tunepimp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:03] <Lars_G> !libtunepimp
[01:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about libtunepimp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:04] <the-erm> I like the idea of having a root@ next to my name.
[01:04] <the-erm> while I'm doing admin stuff.  and yes sudo does work.
[01:04] <fritsch> the-erm: sudo su after that: passwd
[01:04] <fritsch> the-erm: no login as root
[01:04] <TheHighChild> I use 'sudo -i'
[01:05] <fritsch> the-erm: now you have the root back ...
[01:05] <Lars_G> or, like TheHighChild said sudo -i
[01:05] <Lars_G> it's better for long admin sessions than to sudo every command
[01:05] <TheHighChild> Correct me if I misstate but that puts you into a root interactive session
[01:05] <cpk2> !info tuneimp
[01:05] <ubotu> Package tuneimp does not exist in dapper
[01:05] <cpk2> !info tunepimp
[01:05] <ubotu> Package tunepimp does not exist in dapper
[01:06] <Lars_G> and it eliminates some problems with ID on redirection
[01:06] <Lars_G> !info libtunepimp
[01:06] <ubotu> Package libtunepimp does not exist in dapper
[01:06] <Lars_G> o.O
[01:06] <TheHighChild>   /msg ubotu <whatever> will reduce the spam in the channel
[01:06] <Lars_G> yeah sorry
[01:06] <Lars_G> I'm actually checking the db
[01:07] <Lars_G> Btw the db seems to be in db3/db4 but it has 3 fields, I tough gdb could handle only a two field hash
[01:07] <TheHighChild> not chided, just suggesting to some of the users like soulrider that are new so they don't get complaints from mods
[01:07] <TheHighChild> chiding*
[01:07] <Lars_G> nod
[01:09] <rr72> 10 minutes up?
[01:09] <rr72> lol
[01:09] <rr72> ty didnt see taht
[01:10] <rr72> is it bad for me compile wine 0.9.18 on breazy?
[01:11] <rr72> anyone here to answer my one question? then ill try to install somin again
[01:12] <soulrider> uhm, i accidentally hid the toolbar in my console window, how cna i recover it? :P
[01:12] <fritsch> soulrider: ctrl m
[01:12] <fritsch> soulrider: try?
[01:12] <fritsch> ctrl alt m
[01:13] <soulrider> ctl m didnt work
[01:13] <soulrider> k, let em try
[01:13] <fritsch> this works here
[01:13] <soulrider> ah yes
[01:13] <soulrider> thanks!
[01:13] <fritsch> np
[01:13] <soulrider> another question :P
[01:13] <rr72> fritsch~ ;)
[01:13] <dako> hello
[01:14] <fritsch> soulrider: just ask
[01:14] <soulrider> is thera  way to send the konsole abr thingy thats in my taskbar to the system tray?
[01:14] <rr72> system tray?
[01:14] <soulrider> yea
[01:14] <fritsch> soulrider: this one i did not get
[01:14] <soulrider> ok
[01:14] <soulrider> you see when you opena  konsole
[01:14] <rr72> u mean add special button?
[01:14] <soulrider> uhm no
[01:15] <fritsch> soulrider: just minimize and then there is an icon in systry?
[01:15] <dako> I want to rip mp3's to an external harddrive, how do I set so that I can put them there?
[01:15] <soulrider> mind if i take a screenshot adn show you what i mean ?
[01:15] <soulrider> i want the icon in sys tray but without minimizing
[01:15] <rr72> fritsch~ is it ok for me to compile wine 0.9.18 on breazy since the rep i got was 0.9.17 and 0.9.18 is for dapper
[01:15] <fritsch> dako: plugin, mount, if the filesystem is supported, just copy over
[01:15] <fritsch> dako: ntfs should be problematic, i think
[01:16] <fritsch> soulrider: yes make one
[01:16] <soulrider> ok
[01:16] <dako> I was getting an error that it could send to the directory that I have already on the harddrive
[01:16] <dako> no, not nfts it is fat32
[01:16] <fritsch> ist it mounted read only?
[01:16] <Lunar_Raven> heu guys, is kde 3.5.4 available for kubuntu yet?
[01:16] <dako> how can I look at that?
[01:16] <Lunar_Raven> hey*
[01:16] <fritsch> Lunar_Raven: wait till tomorrow morning
[01:17] <Lunar_Raven> ok
[01:17] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[01:17] <fritsch> Lunar_Raven: some fixes still being uploaded
[01:17] <Lars_G> Lunar_Raven: It is but it has a bug
[01:17] <fritsch> Lunar_Raven: just look at the irc topic title her in
[01:17] <Lunar_Raven> ok cool, I shal' wait patiently
[01:17] <rr72> is it safe for me to compile wine 0.9.18 under breazy?
[01:17] <Lunar_Raven> oh lol!
[01:17] <Lunar_Raven> sorry
[01:17] <Lunar_Raven> I feel dumb now
[01:17] <fritsch> Lunar_Raven: no problem
[01:17] <Lars_G> rr72: What do you mean safe?
[01:17] <fritsch> Lars_G: be careful with him (hiding)
[01:18] <Lars_G> fritsch: I'm strong willed
[01:18] <rr72> breezy repo is 0.9.17 but dappers is 0.9.18
[01:18] <rr72> latest wine version is 0.9.18
[01:18] <rr72> just wonderin why its not for breezy but for dapper
[01:19] <fritsch> soulrider: everything okay?
[01:19] <Lars_G> rr72: Because breezy is an old distro, and for non-current only bugfixes are released. Even more, for current distros only bugfixes should be released.
[01:19] <Lars_G> rr72: that means, no new versions, but mostly patches of what is there
[01:20] <rr72> so is it safe or no?
[01:20] <Lars_G> rr72: define safe.
[01:20] <rr72> breezy is old?
[01:20] <soulrider> yes sorry, was takign the screenshot
[01:20] <bl3ssing> can anybody tell me why Adept is comming only read only mode, please?
[01:20] <soulrider> let em uplaod it to imageshack
[01:20] <Lars_G> rr72: breezy is not the newest stable version, still ubuntu provides extended support for "old" versions in the form of patched security holes to prolong the lifetime of an existent install
[01:21] <fritsch> soulrider: okay
[01:21] <rr72> how "old" is it?
[01:21] <Lars_G> rr72: if your machine will explode? I'm inclined to say it will not.
[01:22] <rr72> no like will it screw up dependeneciers
[01:22] <rr72> ack
[01:22] <rr72> major miss spell
[01:22] <rr72> wtf an "r"!?
[01:22] <Lars_G> rr72: BreezyBadger (5.10; Released October 13, 2005)
[01:22] <rr72> i can't spell for crap
[01:22] <Lars_G> it depends, have you checked if wine has dependant packages?
[01:23] <Lars_G> rr72: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases?highlight=%28releases%29
[01:23] <fritsch> rr72: get the dapper source, dpkg-buildpackage, look for errors
[01:23] <soulrider> fritsch: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/512/ubuntu1vw8.png
[01:23] <rr72> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH screw it im going to compile by hand
[01:23] <soulrider> i want to move fromt he arrow on the left to the one on the right
[01:23] <cpk2> cant you just upgrade from breezy to dapper now?
[01:23] <soulrider> and keep the window open
[01:23] <rr72> i thought dapper was unstable when i dl breezy
[01:23] <Lars_G> cpk2: it's a long process but it's doable
[01:24] <Lars_G> rr72: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:24] <cpk2> they probably have a wiki on it...
[01:24] <Lars_G> cpk2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:24] <fritsch> soulrider: the easyiest way is:
[01:25] <fritsch> click on the left upper corner and choose: always on top
[01:25] <fritsch> ah, but i think, i know what you have in mind
[01:25] <soulrider> i wanna keep it allways below
[01:25] <soulrider> i wanna move the bar thingy
[01:25] <fritsch> soulrider: than choose always below
[01:25] <fritsch> soulrider: have to look again
[01:26] <Lars_G> always bellow means other windows will cover it even if it has focus
[01:26] <fritsch> soulrider: okay, no i dont know a way
[01:26] <fritsch> dont know a way to get it in dock
[01:27] <soulrider> oh ok
[01:27] <kamikaze> hola
[01:27] <soulrider> hola
[01:27] <kamikaze> alguien?
[01:27] <kamikaze> a sip
[01:27] <kamikaze> este canal es de kubuntu?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Fixed?
[01:28] <fritsch> rr72: why do you ask for dependencies, if you build by hand
[01:28] <rr72> the other guy answered my question
[01:28] <fritsch> rr72: ah make install can breake many things and breaks package management
[01:28] <DaSkreech> !es
[01:28] <rr72> breezy is "old"
[01:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:28] <fritsch> rr72tring to backport dapper package is the way to go
[01:29] <DaSkreech> Unless that's Portugese
[01:29] <kamikaze> ok, sorry rr72
[01:29] <rr72> what?
[01:29] <kamikaze> i don  know
[01:30] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Nein, it's spanish
[01:30] <DaSkreech> That's what I thought sometimes I get sleepy though
[01:30] <en1gma> hi all
[01:30] <DaSkreech> Hello kamikaze
[01:30] <en1gma> i made it back from driving all day
[01:31] <en1gma> anyone remember my Q i had earlier today
[01:32] <en1gma> anyone awake?
[01:32] <soulrider> !wine
[01:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:32] <gekko`> en1gma: if you have a question, you should ask it
[01:33] <en1gma> i think you right
[01:33] <en1gma> :)
[01:33] <en1gma> ok here goes it
[01:33] <Lars_G> *drumroll*
[01:33] <en1gma> :P
[01:34] <soulrider> what was hte name of the not free program like wine ?
[01:34] <kamikaze> someone can hear sound on portable AMILO ?
[01:34] <rr72> crossover?
[01:34] <Lars_G> rr72: "Like wine" crossover: http://www.codeweavers.com
[01:34] <Lars_G> err that was for soulrider
[01:34] <soulrider> was it like
[01:34] <soulrider> ces something ?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> cedega
[01:35] <Lars_G> soulrider: cedega is oriented to game playing
[01:35] <en1gma> i dloaded kubunto 64bit general 2.6.15-23 i think the kernel is. anyhow i am strictly using it as a live dvd (not touching my raid0 system ;)) ok 2.6.15-23 has a broken module that i need loaded to get my wifi to work on this computer. it is fixed in a later kernel...i dont know if 2.6.15-25 has it fixed but i do know it is fixed later on
[01:35] <Lars_G> soulrider: crossover to office tools
[01:35] <soulrider> yes, that!
[01:35] <soulrider> thanks! ^^
[01:35] <en1gma> what i want to do is substitute a newer kernel for that kernel on the dvd somehow
[01:35] <pihl`> gah, when I resized my partition I of course set windows to 30 gb and kubuntu to 65 when it was supposed to be the other way around. Great.
[01:35] <en1gma> lol
[01:35] <rr72> how do i uninstall? make uninstall?
[01:35] <en1gma> partition magic can resize on the fly
[01:36] <DaSkreech> if you made from source yes
[01:36] <en1gma> just resize it
[01:36] <pihl`> yeah, I'm going to install it now :)
[01:36] <en1gma> it will move fat, ntfs, ext2 ext3
[01:36] <rr72> DaSkreech~ ty and what does make clean do?
[01:36] <en1gma> etc...
[01:36] <Lars_G> rr72: deletes the compiled objects and libs in the compiling directory
[01:36] <en1gma> make clean is like a make default
[01:36] <en1gma> it restores it the way it was originally
[01:36] <Lars_G> rr72: so when you run make again all files are recompiled. not only these that have changed
[01:37] <en1gma> Lars_G is more correct...i was just be general
[01:37] <Lars_G> en1gma: make default is more radical and can alter autoconf files, afaik
[01:37] <en1gma> yea i was just being general
[01:37] <Lars_G> I was beign a corporal
[01:38] <en1gma> not general but simplifying
[01:38] <en1gma> :)
[01:38] <en1gma> :P
[01:38] <soulrider> ghwo can i uninstalla  program i installed with adept, and remove everythign that program created too?
[01:38] <soulrider> leave no traces of it
[01:38] <soulrider> how can i uninstall a *
[01:38] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Depends on the program
[01:39] <soulrider> wine :P
[01:39] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Have you tried a purge?
[01:39] <soulrider> i insatlled somethign with wne, but i cant uninstall it
[01:39] <soulrider> purge ?
[01:39] <Lars_G> soulrider: "sudo dpkg -P wine"
[01:39] <en1gma> ok guys i dont want to dload the daper amd64bit dvd kubuntu that has the 2.6.15-25 kernel i just want to change it out (or i would really like to change out with a 2.6.17 but if it can only be done with a 2.6.15-25 amd 64bit corpral than ill do it with that
[01:39] <Lars_G> soulrider: It will delete config files and dirs too
[01:39] <soulrider> sweet
[01:39] <soulrider> thanks
[01:39] <soulrider> i need tos atrt writing all these tips down
[01:40] <Lars_G> be carefull with it, if you purge your kernel it'll be fun
[01:40] <Lars_G> soulrider: Get basket it's a wonderfull notes app
[01:40] <DaSkreech> en1gma: See the problem with that is that a kernel kicks in on reboot
[01:40] <soulrider> aight
[01:40] <en1gma> im gonna have to remaster a dvd i think
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: I was looking at that. Whats that about?
[01:40] <en1gma> i have alot of dvds to play with
[01:40] <en1gma> :)
[01:42] <soulrider> cool
[01:42] <soulrider> i still gotta try k9copy
[01:42] <en1gma> or what would really be nice is.....to use this kubuntu 2.6.15-23 amd64 bit general.....and add the newer kernel and tell kubuntu to use that one instead
[01:42] <en1gma> are kubuntus kernels done like debians? precompiled already so you can just install it
[01:42] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: It's a hierarchiral note takign system
[01:42] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Newest beta integrates with kontact too
[01:42] <en1gma> or replace it like you can dload it with apt-get
[01:42] <DaSkreech> Whats this about a clipboard as well?
[01:43] <DaSkreech> en1gma: Yes
[01:43] <en1gma> so what would be the best way to use a newer kernel with this kubuntu dvd and then save it or do i remaster it
[01:43] <en1gma> how would i go about doing this the easiest way
[01:43] <rOOb> en1gma, if u are wanting to know if u can use diff kernels...yes u can
[01:44] <en1gma> and save to dvd...remember i not using my hard drives at all
[01:44] <rOOb> en1gma, use apt-get
[01:44] <en1gma> just a live dvd
[01:44] <en1gma> apt-get will dload it and install it (is that when i remaster it? before reboot
[01:44] <rOOb> oh en1gma well if u are on a linve dvd im not sure how u can.....why even do it on a live dvd?
[01:44] <rodrigo_> hello all of you!
[01:44] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: I've not played with the clipboard but I think it's to paste/copy several stuff from clip
[01:45] <rodrigo_> hello enigma!
[01:45] <en1gma> the reason i need to get a newer kernel is cause in 2.6.15-23 my wifi nic dont work
[01:45] <en1gma> its broken
[01:45] <en1gma> it is fixed in newer kernels
[01:45] <Lars_G> en1gma: it should be doable afaik
[01:45] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: So It's an effective replacement of Knotes?
[01:45] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: In theory, it is.
[01:45] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: So you have never used it?
[01:45] <en1gma> is there a tool in kubuntu that remasters
[01:46] <rodrigo_> I am new here......Somebody can explain me?
[01:46] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: For me, it works alongside. flat notes in knotes synced with my clie (palm), hierarchiral notes in basket and I'll have to write my own conduit when I find a free hierarchiral program for the palm I like
[01:46] <en1gma> or is there a cfg file or switch or cheat to tell it to load that kernel upon boot
[01:47] <rOOb> en1gma, umm well u will probly need to make your own live dvd....ive nevr done this so i dont know
[01:47] <rOOb> en1gma, why cant u install to hdd?
[01:47] <en1gma> i wonder if i do it in windows or if i can do it from a livedvd os
[01:47] <en1gma> like when im booted up in kububu
[01:48] <en1gma> i have 4*250 sata in a raid0
[01:48] <en1gma> i dont want to touch it
[01:48] <rOOb> en1gma, what kinda filesytem are u using?
[01:48] <en1gma> :)
[01:48] <en1gma> ntfs but im in raid0
[01:48] <en1gma> i have alot of info on my system
[01:48] <rOOb> en1gma, well uu arnt gonna be able to do it in linux
[01:48] <rOOb> en1gma, then w/e u do DO NOT WRITE TO THE HDD
[01:49] <DaSkreech> en1gma: You could pick up a spare hard drive
[01:49] <Lars_G> en1gma: ntfs 4, 5 or 5.1?
[01:49] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Hi
[01:49] <en1gma> well if i can use isobuster to rename the newer kernel to the same as the old would that work
[01:49] <Lars_G> rOOb: he can, with a commercial driver
[01:49] <rOOb> en1gma, linux doesnt have good ntfs support...if u write to the disk it can andprobly will corrupt alot of stuff
[01:49] <en1gma> im not sure how it works on livedvds but there is a couple files that have to go into /boot
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Why doesn't mplayer recognize .au on the command line?
[01:49] <rOOb> Lars_G, even then man...i dont tell ppl to
[01:49] <Lars_G> en1gma: what version of ntfs btw?
[01:49] <Lars_G> rOOb: the makers assure it's safe
[01:50] <rodrigo_> hello sombody can help me?
[01:50] <rOOb> Lars_G, hehe im still not gonna try it...or tell ppl to tr it
[01:50] <rOOb> rodrigo_, we arnt mind readers...stat eyour problem
[01:50] <rOOb> *state
[01:50] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: no, sorry, we can't you haven't asked anything
[01:50] <soulrider> im trying to convince my friend to install kubuntu, he sais he wont unless he can play age of empires 2 :P
[01:51] <Lars_G> soulrider: buy him cedega
[01:51] <rOOb> soulrider, yea tell him to use cedega
[01:51] <rodrigo_> why.......we cant talk anything?....
[01:51] <Lars_G> soulrider: Give me a second
[01:51] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: ASK
[01:51] <soulrider> im trying to get him a torrent: P
[01:51] <Lars_G> soulrider: I can't condone it.
[01:51] <soulrider> rodrigo_:  que encesitas?
[01:51] <visik7> soulrider: check cedega database
[01:52] <rOOb> soulrider, http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3126
[01:52] <DaSkreech> Actually I thnk that Wine can do AGOE2 now
[01:52] <DaSkreech> AOE
[01:52] <rOOb> cedgea has 3 starts for it
[01:52] <en1gma> god dang hotel wifi crap
[01:52] <en1gma> what did i miss
[01:52] <Lars_G> rOOb: http://www.ntfs-linux.com/
[01:52] <mossman> Wine can do it. AOE
[01:52] <en1gma> something about ntfs version
[01:52] <DaSkreech> AOE2?
[01:52] <soulrider> apparently AOE wont work 1005 well in wine
[01:52] <Lars_G> 3 stars is not good
[01:52] <soulrider> yea
[01:52] <soulrider> AOE 2
[01:52] <rodrigo_> Bueno en castellano.....Alguien usa Postfix?
[01:52] <soulrider> yo no
[01:53] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: I do.
[01:53] <soulrider> hay un canal de IRC en espaol
[01:53] <bl3ssing> gekko`, can you resend the last lines you typed, please?
[01:53] <soulrider> quizas quieras ir ahi
[01:53] <Lars_G> !es
[01:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:53] <rOOb> Lars_G, yea ive heard of that...and ive heard bad things....i wouldnt trust it on my partions....not that i have any ntfs around
[01:53] <DaSkreech> !jp
[01:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about jp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:53] <soulrider> eso mismo ubotu
[01:53] <Lars_G> rOOb: thanks for the feedback
[01:53] <rodrigo_> bueno....el que si....quisiera si han configurado el archivo named.conf
[01:53] <rOOb> Lars_G, np?
[01:53] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: baka ;)
[01:54] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: please don't be offended :)
[01:54] <soulrider> rodrigo_:  #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es
[01:54] <rodrigo_> soulrider: eres argentino?
[01:54] <soulrider> no
[01:54] <soulrider> por? :-/
[01:55] <kamikaze_j> hola
[01:55] <Lars_G> Es un Argentino Light
[01:55] <gekko`> bl3ssing: check ps ax | grep dcopserver
[01:55] <DaSkreech> OK can I run kaffiene from the cli without a gui?
[01:55] <rodrigo_> porque veo que hablan muy rapido y me gustaria fijar algun contacto.....tengo preguntas algo interesantes
[01:55] <soulrider> my friend is asking whats hte difference between ubuntu adn kubuntu
[01:55] <gekko`> bl3ssing: and kill any session of adept, if there's any
[01:55] <soulrider> no, no soy argentino
[01:55] <rOOb> soulrider, kubuntu uses kde as default
[01:55] <Lars_G> soulrider: se dice que los Uruguayos son argentinos light
[01:55] <rOOb> soulrider, where ubuntu used gnome
[01:55] <soulrider> por dios, no
[01:55] <zeng> wolaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:55] <kamikaze_j> xD
[01:55] <Konstable> When I use "Execute shell command" from Konqueror, and if I use a sudo command, the dialog that pops up prompts me for password but won't let me enter it.  Is there a way around this?
[01:55] <soulrider> ahh
[01:55] <zeng> hay algun espaol?????????''
[01:56] <soulrider> thanks rOOb
[01:56] <rodrigo_> si..por?
[01:56] <zeng> olaaaaaaa
[01:56] <rOOb> soulrider, np man
[01:56] <zeng> xD
[01:56] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Afaik the only good video player with cli interface is VLC, but you won't be able to SEE video unless you use svgalib or aalib
[01:56] <zeng> nse
[01:56] <Lars_G> !es
[01:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:56] <bl3ssing> gekko`, ps ax | grep dcopserver
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Konstable: Use kdesu
[01:56] <bl3ssing>  6894 ?        S      0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit]  --nosid
[01:56] <bl3ssing>  7096 pts/4    R+     0:00 grep dcopserver
[01:56] <Lars_G> This channel is english centric.
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: It's not video
[01:56] <Lars_G> soulrider helped rodrigo_ in spanish as a favor
[01:56] <zeng> jubuntu mejor.,.
[01:56] <rodrigo_> this channel is world centric
[01:56] <zeng> asias dewwwwwwww
[01:56] <Konstable> DaSkreech thanks
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Konstable: Sure
[01:56] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: audio? streams? I'd personally use mplayer
[01:57] <rodrigo_> who are you Lars_G in this channel?
[01:57] <gekko`> bl3ssing: I end up with my knowledge then
[01:57] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: I am no OP if that's what you're asking. Still beign beligerant with me will archieve nothing
[01:58] <soulrider> rodrigo_:  ------------------->    #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-e
[01:58] <kamikaze_j> jajajaj
[01:58] <soulrider> ah te van a poder ayudar mejor
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: It's not recognizing the files
[01:59] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: soulrider spoke to you in spanish as a courtesy because you refused to go to the spanish speaking channels you were pointed to, this does not means people will start screaming in spanish all around in here and asking for people from their same country like zeng did, I am no OP to enforce it, but I can for SURE ask for cooperation. My statement wasn't even directed to you in personal.
[01:59] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: It plays them it just doesn't recognize them
[01:59] <kamikaze_j> xD
[01:59] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Hmmm odd.... you could try VLC, it does has a cli interface.
[01:59] <soulrider> i love VLC
[01:59] <rodrigo_> thank you Lars_G......Im looking for a chat where I could talk about Linux, more about Kubuntu
[01:59] <kamikaze_j> spanish power!!!
[01:59] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: Why? Mplayer plays them so does Kaffeine
[01:59] <DaSkreech> Welsh Power!!
[01:59] <Lars_G> soulrider: Me too! it's one of the best players out there, even if it's plugin for firefox is saddly deficient compared to mplayer's
[02:00] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: You said they were not recognized.
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: They play but they are not recognized
[02:00] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Btw kaffeine is just a GUI, it could be using a mplayer, gstreamer, xine or other engine for playback
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: Want me to explain? :)
[02:00] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: what do you mean "not recognized"
[02:00] <Lars_G> yes, please
[02:01] <rr72> if remove --purge and then compile by hand wine will i lose all my applications?
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: From the command line mplayer <path/to/fi<tab>> doesn't complete
[02:01] <Lars_G> rr72: It shouldn't touch your ~/.wine but I can't guarantee it
[02:01] <en1gma> ok im back i was talking to my cousin
[02:01] <DaSkreech> since as far as bash is concerned mplayer has no bubsiness knowing about the file
[02:01] <en1gma> ok what dio di miss again
[02:01] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: that's a hiccup with BASH's new autocompletion system
[02:02] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Try tcsh or zsh for a while ;)
[02:02] <rodrigo_> Lars_G......can you give me information about another channel knowed for my objetive?
[02:02] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: #ubuntu-es
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Yup yup but right click (which krashes my Kubuntu btw I need to fix that) on the file shows kafeinie and amarok
[02:02] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: debe tener mas gente que #kubuntu-es y postfix ata?e a cualquier ubuntu
[02:02] <en1gma> ok if anyone can help me get a newer kernel on my livedvd without using my HD unless its in windows i would appreciate it
[02:03] <soulrider> Lars_G: i hate firefox, Opera FTW :P
[02:03] <Lars_G> soulrider: I love both. I am currently using firefox for a few extensions I love
[02:03] <rodrigo_> ok Lars_G....thank you for your help.
[02:03] <soulrider> is there any program to remove CSS? CSS as in DVD encryption
[02:03] <Lars_G> en1gma: That's goint to be a LOAD of fun, if possible at all
[02:04] <en1gma> crap
[02:04] <en1gma> who is the livedvd expert here :)
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: Wait where are the filetype associations again?
[02:04] <Lars_G> soulrider: if you install decss you will be able to watch encrypted DVDs, it's impossible to remove it FROM the disc, but I am sure many rippers can remove it
[02:05] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Good question, I am not sure, I should check it out
[02:05] <soulrider> yea, thast what i meant
[02:05] <soulrider> somethign like anyDVD
[02:05] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: the new autocomplete is driving me mad
[02:05] <soulrider> can i get it fromt he repositories?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: Found em :)
[02:05] <Lars_G> soulrider: Sorry never done it :(
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: I love it
[02:05] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: where's it?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Konqui -> Tools -> Config Konqi -> File associations
[02:06] <Lars_G> o.O
[02:06] <Lars_G> does that affect bash's autocompletion?
[02:06] <bioticpro> Is there a way to make konq identify as a custom browser version, unstead of just the ones in the pulldown
[02:06] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: It better :)
[02:06] <Lars_G> DaSkreech: Meaning "no"
[02:06] <Lars_G> :)
[02:06] <bl3ssing> gekko`, put your mind in control again ... cause I love the way it is working. :) Thank you man ... I'll try to find something else ... maybe I'll be lucky and I'll find it by myself (just the way Christopher Coloumb found the America (that's why I'm residing on it ... right? :D)
[02:07] <Lars_G> Ok I'm going I need to rest my brain
[02:07] <Lars_G> be well all
[02:07] <rodrigo_> Lars_G Do you know something about LinuxBox?
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Lars_G: Later
[02:08] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: No :( I don't even know what it is
[02:08] <rOOb> hello all can someone uses ubuntu use the kubuntu kde source...the brand new one?
[02:08] <rOOb> !kde
[02:08] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:09] <rodrigo_> Lars_G: the problem is that in the chat you give me nobody knows about LinuxBox. Nobody here knows about that?...I cant polive it!
[02:09] <gekko`> bl3ssing: as a last solution I would suggest to restart your system, but it's not the way of solution I like :P
[02:09] <en1gma> anyone familiar with DSL
[02:09] <soulrider> i think i convinced my friend to install kubuntu, at least downlaod it :D
[02:09] <Lars_G> rodrigo_: what is LinuxBox??
[02:09] <soulrider> en1gma: im using aDSL
[02:09] <DaSkreech> rodrigo_: Is that a Distro?
[02:10] <bl3ssing> gekko`, neither do I! We're engineers, right? :D
[02:10] <en1gma> does kubuntu have a feature like DSL where you can save your config to dvd and have it auto loaded upon reboot. or save the apps you get and also have those loaded upon reboot
[02:10] <gekko`> bl3ssing: well, at least trying to be ;)
[02:10] <soulrider> uhm
[02:10] <rodrigo_> Its a hardware with a linux embedded
[02:10] <soulrider> i use ppoconfig to set a connection up
[02:10] <soulrider> and pon to connect
[02:10] <soulrider> i cant really follow your question, sory
[02:10] <soulrider> sorry*
[02:11] <bl3ssing> gekko`, I'll do it than. see us ... later (in some minutes). I'll be back, so ... don't think you'll get ride of me that fast. :D
[02:11] <gekko`> ok :)
[02:11] <rodrigo_> im doing a proyect for an protocol sniffer with that
[02:14] <bl3ssing> hello everyone.
[02:15] <bl3ssing> gekko`, no changes. The same.
[02:15] <bl3ssing> :(
[02:15] <gekko`> bl3ssing: does apt-get work?
[02:15] <DaSkreech> rodrigo_: Whats the project?
[02:17] <CVirus> how can I make my System tray group the icons in two horizontal rows not one ?
[02:17] <rodrigo_> DaSkreech: its about a sniffer that captures paquet!
[02:17] <DaSkreech> CVirus: I think I have this one
[02:18] <DaSkreech> rodrigo_: Where is your problem?
[02:18] <CVirus> DaSkreech: I had it by default with gentoo's KDE ... cant do it with Kubuntu
[02:18] <DaSkreech> CVirus: It's the new KDE
[02:18] <rodrigo_> I would like to know if somebody  have worked with embbedded sistems?
[02:19] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Edit the Panel and set the size to custom and 48 pixles
[02:19] <bl3ssing> what is this apt-get? I didn't do anything when the computer was restarted again. I've just opened the Adept and ... the same.
[02:19] <bl3ssing> gekko`, what is this apt-get? I didn't do anything when the computer was restarted again. I've just opened the Adept and ... the same.
[02:20] <CVirus> DaSkreech: Thanks alot
[02:20] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Worked?
[02:20] <CVirus> DaSkreech: yeah .. Thanks
[02:20] <gekko`> bl3ssing: try "apt-get update"
[02:20] <gekko`> sudo
[02:22] <the-erm-2> ok another crazy su question.
[02:22] <the-erm-2> I have managed to change the password using sudo passwd
[02:23] <the-erm-2> good thing for me, then I logged in using su.
[02:23] <DaSkreech> the-erm-2: "the" password?
[02:23] <the-erm-2> it didn't pass $DISPLAY quite right, so anyone know how to get the X session passed when you do an su?
[02:23] <draik> Anybody know how to deal with a BREAK upgrade?
[02:23] <rodrigo_> DaSkreech: whats the problem
[02:24] <the-erm-2> er .. never mind su -p works.
[02:24] <draik> I can't install an upgrade because it will cause a BREAK. I just want to get rid of Adept Updater from my systray
[02:24] <DaSkreech> rodrigo_: Well if you had a more general question not specific to the LinuxBox then ask that. Someone might be able to help
[02:24] <DaSkreech> draik: Which app?
[02:25] <TheHighChild> Does anyone use Knode?
[02:25] <en1gma> does kububtu have a 64bit cd (not the dvd)
[02:25] <draik> DaSkreech, you mean the upgrade?
[02:25] <bl3ssing> gekko`, i got to sudo dpkg --configure -a .... :) (since it asked me about dpkg .. and than, I'll try sudo apt-get update. :) hope it will works.
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Si
[02:25] <dako_> I want to rip mp3's with KAudioCreater, but I get this error when the rip is done "Cannot place file, unable to make directories."
[02:25] <draik> libtotem-plparser1
[02:26] <rodrigo_> whats about strongArm ?
[02:26] <TheHighChild> en1gma: yes
[02:26] <rodrigo_> somebody know aboout StrongArm?
[02:27] <rodrigo_> somebody know about somtething of Linux?
[02:27] <rr72> yeah
[02:28] <rr72> bad to do rm -fr /
[02:28] <chosebine> :-)
[02:28] <gekko`> rr72: you shouldnt joke with that command
[02:28] <DaSkreech> draik: where are you getting it from?
[02:28] <TheHighChild> Insufficient permissions to perform that command
[02:29] <rr72> gekko`~ that has been given to me so many times
[02:29] <TheHighChild> better try with sudo
[02:29] <en1gma> mirc i hate IT
[02:29] <rr72> by jerks who hate me
[02:29] <chosebine> I would like to know how many people made the mistake of writing it
[02:29] <en1gma> someone said something to me but i got disconnected
[02:29] <TheHighChild> en1gma: yes, there is a 64 desktop cd
[02:29] <draik> DaSkreech, from Adept Updater
[02:29] <gekko`> rr72: very evil from them
[02:29] <en1gma> ah yea thats what i was wanting to know...;i see 2 version of the 64bit..1 is alternate and other is desktop
[02:30] <DaSkreech> :-) have you added any custom repositories?
[02:30] <rodrigo_> rr72: can I make you a question?
[02:30] <TheHighChild> en1gma: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:30] <rr72> huh? u mean ask me?
[02:30] <rr72> im waiting for compilation to be done
[02:30] <en1gma> i found the ftp but i see an alternate and a desktop
[02:30] <gekko`> lol
[02:30] <rr72> ack its boring
[02:30] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to install OpenOffice , but i have broken pkges that can't seem to be fixed , anyone interested in helping ...check this out ;  http://pastebin.ca/112535
[02:30] <rr72> rodrigo_~ what u need?
[02:31] <TheHighChild> en1gma: alternate is for a server installation, desktop is for normal installs and is also a live cd
[02:31] <bl3ssing> gekko`, Done! now?
[02:31] <bl3ssing> :)
[02:31] <en1gma> anyone know what kernel comes with 6.06
[02:31] <en1gma> i need the version that has the latest kernel
[02:31] <dako_> can anyone help me?
[02:31] <en1gma> i dont care if its -current or beta or whatever
[02:31] <rr72> dako_~ just ask
[02:31] <crimsun> en1gma: 2.6.15-26.45.
[02:31] <rr72> if someone knows the anwser they will help u
[02:32] <BluesKaj> ask away dako , maybe someone can help
[02:32] <gekko`> bl3ssing: run "kdesu adept" and hope it works
[02:32] <rodrigo_> rr72: do you know about "packet filter" ?
[02:32] <intelikey> en1gma 2.6.15
[02:32] <dako_> I want to rip mp3's with KAudioCreater, but I get this error when the rip is done "Cannot place file, unable to make directories."
[02:32] <rr72> rodrigo_~ i know about magic packets but not packet filters
[02:32] <en1gma> i really need to get into the 2.6.16 to feel good about my module not being broken
[02:32] <en1gma> any version (64bit amd/general) come with a 2.6.16 kernel
[02:33] <TheHighChild> en1gma: why not upgrade after installation?
[02:33] <rodrigo_> rr72: magic packet is for PXE, but packet filter is a library for capture packets necesary for libpcap...Do you kno about that?
[02:33] <en1gma> im using a livedvd
[02:33] <chosebine> when you upgrade some package (with apt-get upgade) , is there a way to know the changes between the pakage's version ex: security fixes, normal update etc...?
[02:33] <en1gma> or livecd
[02:33] <en1gma> i have 4*250 sata raid0 i dont want to mess with that
[02:33] <rr72> rodrigo_~ why are u quizing me if u know the answers?
[02:33] <draik> DaSkreech, not really. I added multiverse, that's all
[02:34] <TheHighChild> en1gma: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will get you the latest kernel, just won't work after you reboot
[02:34] <DaSkreech> draik: Strange.
[02:34] <gekko`> chosebine: check /usr/share/doc/<application> there should be a changelog
[02:34] <rr72> en1gma~ i came to kubuntu cause debian couldnt handle my sata card
[02:34] <DaSkreech> draik: What uses libtotem?
[02:34] <rr72> rodrigo_~ oh and now
[02:34] <chosebine> gekko:thanks
[02:34] <DaSkreech> You have totem installed?
[02:34] <rr72> rodrigo_~ where is this going?
[02:34] <draik> DaSkreech, I don't recall installing totem
[02:34] <feros> hello
[02:34] <en1gma> TheHighChild can i remaster a dvd from the linuxdvd iso
[02:34] <en1gma> before reboot
[02:34] <DaSkreech> >-<
[02:34] <draik> I think it was installed when I installed QDVDAuthor
[02:35] <rodrigo_> rr72: Im looking for somebody who know about the library libpcap....its for my proyect
[02:35] <feros> how do i switch to EFnet?? i have just installed kubuntu:p
[02:35] <en1gma> sata i would be ok with but im in raid0
[02:35] <rr72> rodrigo_~ can't help sorry
[02:35] <draik> DaSkreech, Nope, totem not installed
[02:35] <DaSkreech> feros: /server irc.efnet.com I think
[02:35] <intelikey> feros /server irc.efnet.net
[02:35] <rr72> lol
[02:35] <DaSkreech> draik: Then I guess it's safe to ignore. Give me a second
[02:36] <draik> k
[02:36] <TheHighChild> en1gma: You can do anything you would on a normal installation, just all of the packages you install and kernels you upgrade won't be there once you reboot. As for remastering DVD's, not sure what's involved with that bro, sorry
[02:36] <rr72> /operserc set superadmin on
[02:36] <DaSkreech> rodrigo_: have you checked the website for that library?
[02:37] <en1gma> TheHighChild i need someone to save the stuff to cd/dvd before i reboot so i dont have to dload everything all over again
[02:37] <en1gma> someone = someway
[02:37] <DaSkreech> en1gma: You don't have two CD Drives?
[02:37] <rodrigo_> DaSkreech: yes, i had compiled it for my architecture, but something is wrong in the patching level!
[02:37] <en1gma> i wish
[02:37] <en1gma> i have 2gig o ram
[02:37] <en1gma> can i put one iso in my ram
[02:37] <en1gma> to manipulate
[02:38] <en1gma> idk im just guessing
[02:38] <TheHighChild> en1gma: k3b is a standard burning app that does DVD's. It's in the default install on cd
[02:38] <intelikey> if ram is big enough
[02:38] <en1gma> yea but the dvd is mounted i cant take it out to put another dvd in can i
[02:38] <en1gma> or should i dload the cd and boot toram cheat
[02:39] <intelikey> not easily
[02:39] <en1gma> and put new cd in
[02:39] <en1gma> and do it that way
[02:39] <bl3ssing> gekko`, trying to start Adept now. Hope's working. :d
[02:39] <TheHighChild> en1gma: load the livecd to ram
[02:39] <cow_2001> when i don't touch the touchpad gifs in konqueror are showed in a very low framerate
[02:39] <rodrigo_> rr72: so do you know something about something? Im looking for help, im not quizing you. Respet that
[02:39] <puttz> hello
[02:39] <rr72> sorry i thought u were quizing me
[02:39] <cow_2001> when i move the cursor around the gif acts normally
[02:40] <intelikey> en1gma yeah if you can put an iso in ram and then boot that iso....   i don't think linux will play nicely there tho.
[02:40] <cow_2001> anyone got a clue to what's happening?
[02:40] <rr72> i know stuff abuot WoW and Guns and Airplanes and Boats
[02:40] <puttz> is it some one here who use steam in wine??
[02:40] <en1gma> yea sounds like trouble
[02:40] <visik7> puttz: steam works great in cedega
[02:40] <en1gma> ok i might be taking this to far....it might be fixed in 2.6.15.-25 but i seriously doubt it when it dont work in 2.6.15-23
[02:41] <puttz> ok
[02:41] <BluesKaj> bad for the wine
[02:41] <visik7> puttz: and you can compile cedega by yourself
[02:41] <en1gma> where is changelog for amd64bit genral 2.6.15-25 located
[02:41] <puttz> hmm but it i want a program for free :/
[02:41] <en1gma> ill go read and see if it was fixed
[02:41] <en1gma> maybe my module was fixed in it but i doubt it
[02:41] <puttz> i want a program for free..
[02:42] <DaSkreech> puttz: You can compile cedega for free
[02:42] <BluesKaj> I'll try again, I'm trying to install OpenOffice , but i have broken pkges that can't seem to be fixed , anyone interested in helping ...check this out ;  http://pastebin.ca/112535
[02:42] <en1gma> puttz www.google.com "program free"
[02:42] <cow_2001> guess not
[02:42] <en1gma> :)
[02:42] <puttz> ok tanks
[02:42] <en1gma> lol
[02:42] <chosebine> en1gma: good joke
[02:42] <puttz> sry my english sux :P
[02:42] <en1gma> about 10,000,000 hits at least
[02:42] <TheHighChild> I was about to throw that one at en1ma for the changelog Q. lol
[02:43] <en1gma> when you put "free" in google its a disaster
[02:43] <chosebine> en1gma: yeah and none of it will be revelent
[02:43] <puttz> uhmm .. ok
[02:43] <en1gma> exactly
[02:43] <en1gma> :)
[02:43] <en1gma> ok i googling the changelog brb
[02:43] <gekko`> BluesKaj: did you try re-installing the package?
[02:44] <intelikey> well they fixed something in xorg in the last update and it don't work right no mo
[02:44] <BluesKaj> yes gekko
[02:44] <chosebine> google seems to have lost the battle of the revelent result
[02:44] <bl3ssing> what means this code: ps ax | grep adept
[02:44] <bl3ssing> 20821 pts/3    R+     0:00 grep adept
[02:44] <bl3ssing> I want to open Adept, and it comes in Read only mode. I want to install/uninstall things. :D
[02:44] <gekko`> bl3ssing: it tells you that you just ran 'grep adept'
[02:44] <intelikey> bl3ssing means adept is not running
[02:45] <TheHighChild> bl3ssing: What you are seeing is the command process you just typed.
[02:45] <pihl`> how do you automatically connect to a wireless network with wireless assistant? It doesn't start when I boot
[02:45] <BluesKaj> the pastebin text is a copy of the text in the synaptic dialog box after attempting an install
[02:45] <intelikey> bl3ssing the updator is prolly running.
[02:45] <gekko`> BluesKaj: I don't see the command there
[02:46] <BluesKaj> cmd?
[02:46] <gekko`> yes
[02:46] <intelikey> automatic updating do get in the way of normal install/remove of packages   yessir
[02:46] <BluesKaj> was using synaptic
[02:46] <bl3ssing> but i don't have it the adept .......
[02:46] <bl3ssing> :(
[02:46] <rodrigo_> pihl`: you should see etc/messages
[02:47] <puttz> uhmm ..
[02:47] <pihl`> okey
[02:47] <bl3ssing> I press: kdesu adept, and it comes nothing ... waiting and waiting and waiting ...
[02:47] <intelikey> etc/messages ?
[02:47] <en1gma> gonna reboot brb
[02:47] <chosebine> bl3ssing: kill it and retry
[02:48] <puttz> i need a program for free so i can use steam .. some one who know a program ?? (my english sux)
[02:48] <gekko`> BluesKaj: try apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org
[02:48] <chosebine> puttz:good luck! (my advice: dual boot in windows...)
[02:49] <gekko`> bl3ssing: use apt-get install --reinstall adept
[02:49] <DaSkreech> puttz: You can install cedega
[02:49] <gekko`> or remove --purge adept
[02:49] <puttz> chosebine : my english sux but i thin you meen that i will use both windows and linux ?????
[02:49] <pihl`> rodrigo_, where's etc/messages? :)
[02:49] <rodrigo_> pihl`: there in this archive you can see a log with information about what services are in the boot process. Then if wirelless assistan is not here you should append it.
[02:49] <puttz> cedega is nott free ...
[02:49] <gekko`> puttz: wine
[02:50] <DaSkreech> puttz: yes it is if you compile it yourself
[02:50] <puttz> wine dosnt work
[02:50] <DaSkreech> puttz: You can get the source code and build your own cedega
[02:50] <chosebine> puttz:not at the same time, you chose wich os you want to run at boot time
[02:50] <BluesKaj> gekko http://pastebin.ca/112547
[02:51] <puttz> hmm .. i want to lurn linux so i dont want xp .. :/
[02:52] <chosebine> bl3ssing: adept is already started but there is a bug preventing it from running, kill it whit the command pkill adept and retry to start it
[02:52] <gekko`> BluesKaj: what does 'apt-get check' tell you?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> my question is , how do i get rid of the broken pkgs or fix them  ?
[02:52] <gekko`> puttz: if you want to play games you should use windows
[02:53] <DaSkreech> Or learn to code and build games for Linux :)
[02:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj sudo apt-get install -f
[02:53] <bl3ssing> gekko`, the solution comes from you! I told you your mind must work ... :D :) thanks man. chosebine, thank you for your help too.
[02:53] <rodrigo_> pihl`: In a console program (shell), you write "vi /etc/messages"
[02:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj alternatively sudo apt-get remove -f
[02:53] <gekko`> bl3ssing: no problem, and how did it work now?
[02:53] <pihl`> k
[02:53] <puttz> i want to play yes but nott so much .. i will lurn me linux for fun but i will play sometime :P
[02:53] <BluesKaj> intelikey, what does that do?
[02:54] <intelikey> rodrigo_ what will /etc/messages do ?
[02:54] <DaSkreech> puttz: Do what I do turn your computer into a game :)
[02:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj fix broken packages.   that's what you said you wanted.
[02:54] <BluesKaj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:54] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:55] <intelikey> rodrigo_ ?
[02:55] <bl3ssing> it works, gekko`. :)
[02:55] <bl3ssing> patiance means everything.
[02:55] <bl3ssing> :)
[02:56] <gekko`> bl3ssing: did you use apt-get install --reinstall?
[02:56] <bl3ssing> gekko`, yeap.
[02:57] <rodrigo_> intelikey: There you can see if wireless and other services are up when the system boot
[02:57] <puttz> i cant english so i dont think i will be here :P
[02:57] <gekko`> BluesKaj: try apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[02:58] <rodrigo_> intelikey: do you understand?
[02:58] <intelikey> rodrigo_ that's what i though you were after.   it is not /etc/messages  it is /var/log/messages   no ?
[02:58] <rodrigo_> intel
[02:58] <rodrigo_> intelikey: ok........its that...
[02:58] <intelikey> :)
[02:58] <rodrigo_> im confuse with /etc/secure
[02:59] <intelikey> now point pihl` to the correct file
[02:59] <rodrigo_> intelikey: /etc/secure is a log for remote connections.......ok
[02:59] <intelikey> no logs are in /var/log    not /etc
[03:00] <rodrigo_> intelikey: yes, but is a log too.
[03:00] <intelikey> unless you highly customize things it's not.
[03:00] <BluesKaj> no luck ,gekko ..broken pkges are still blocking
[03:00] <rr72> is it good etiquite to make clean after u make install?
[03:01] <intelikey> rr72  yes.  assuming it made properly and installed ok.   you should save the tarball in case you need to make uninstall
[03:01] <rr72> i never make uninstall
[03:01] <rr72> never new about it
[03:01] <rr72> wish i havce on so many occasions
[03:01] <gekko`> BluesKaj: apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org
[03:02] <gekko`> then install it again
[03:02] <rodrigo_> intelikey: yes.......there isnt the name of a log but a log have lines about some activity in your system
[03:03] <rodrigo_> intelikey: an secure works like that
[03:03] <rodrigo_> its active
[03:03] <BluesKaj> bummer gekko  still no luck. "Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed"
[03:04] <gekko`> oh
[03:04] <intelikey> rodrigo_ hmmm ok.    what writes /etc/secure  ?      i'd like to look into this.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> gekko, I think a repository caused this problem...I had to dump some cuz they were blocking synaptic and adept from downloading upgrades etc
[03:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj what exactly are you trying to accomplish ?      if you don't mind my asking.
[03:06] <BluesKaj> i replaced the bad repos and I think these are blocking my attempts at installing openoffice
[03:07] <BluesKaj> remnants
[03:07] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with my floppy drive: it takes a long time or it keeps loading when it reads to a floppy disk
[03:07] <intelikey> !pastebin      your /etc/sources.list   lets have a look
[03:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebin      your /etc/sources.list   lets have a look - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:08] <rr72> lol
[03:08] <intelikey> !pastebin
[03:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:08] <rr72> u can always compuile by hand
[03:09] <intelikey> roll your own oo  ???   why would you ?
[03:09] <bobbyyu> Can anyone help me?
[03:09] <Hawkwind> Why would you compile things on a deb based distro anyways ?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> !ask
[03:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:09] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: No Deb?
[03:09] <BluesKaj> intelikey, I'm trying to install openoffice, but some remnabt broken dependies from a failed earlier attempt using bad repos has caused the this blockage ...at least that's what i think is going on .. :)
[03:09] <bobbyyu> I already asked it.
[03:09] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I specifically meant OOo compiling :P
[03:09] <gekko`> Hawkwind: to enable/disable some functions
[03:09] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Even then, build a deb :P
[03:10] <gekko`> ah
[03:10] <Hawkwind> gekko`: Build a deb, and enable/disable the features that way :)
[03:10] <gekko`> I know
[03:10] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: I just built a deb for tmw
[03:10] <Hawkwind> Compiling things can mess up a system when it comes to the package manager
[03:10] <DaSkreech> bobbyyu: Didn't see it
[03:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok then run this and pastebin the error messages  if any.   sudo apt-get remove -f
[03:10] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I just setup an E17 repo last night :)
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Schweet
[03:11] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with my floppy drive: it takes a long time or it keeps loading when it reads to a floppy disk
[03:11] <DaSkreech>  Why don't you MOTU?
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Or join #ebuntu :)
[03:11] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I will eventually.  Still learning the build process since I just started using *Ubuntu a month ago after 4 1/2 years of building rpms
[03:11] <rr72> whats ebuntu?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> intelikey, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[03:11] <Hawkwind> rr72: Ubuntu based on E17
[03:11] <DaSkreech> exactly what it sounds like
[03:12] <rr72> why wont 2 packs upgradr?
[03:12] <intelikey> then there is nothing broken on your system BluesKaj
[03:12] <rr72> linux and linux-headers or somin liek taht
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> !headers
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Might help. ;)
[03:12] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I have built the last 2 versions of Xchat when it came out and uploaded it to REVU.  Still learning though
[03:12] <bobbyyu> At least tell me if this problem is common among Kubuntu Dapper Drake
[03:13] <DaSkreech> bobbyyu: I don't know I haven't used a floppy since 1999
[03:13] <BluesKaj> intelikey, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[03:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj run this and pastebin any errors it pukes out.   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[03:13] <bobbyyu> You use a USB key?
[03:13] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: You interested in trying the E17 debs at all ?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> intelikey, check this out first, http://pastebin.ca/112547
[03:13] <intelikey> looking.
[03:14] <DaSkreech> bobbyyu: Or even Cds
[03:14] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Yeah in a bit I'm trying to outsmart bash
[03:14] <rr72> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:14] <rr72>   linux-headers-386 linux-image-386
[03:14] <intelikey> bobbyyu no problem with floppies here.  but i manually mount/umount everything.
[03:14] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: When you're ready, http://SeerOfSouls.com/ is where they are.  Just click on the Deb Packages tab and all the info is there
[03:14] <rr72> after a upgrade
[03:14] <bobbyyu> How do you manually mount?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> intelikey, that's the same message
[03:15] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: sudo mount /mnt/floppy   is one example
[03:15] <rr72> mount /legs ;)
[03:15] <rr72> fsck
[03:15] <rr72> fsck
[03:15] <intelikey> BluesKaj run this and pastebin any errors it pukes out.   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-core
[03:16] <intelikey> rr72 how dumb  you umount before an fsck    pfft
[03:16] <intelikey> :)
[03:17] <keith> #opensync
[03:17] <intelikey> bobbyyu sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/fd0 /mnt -t vfat
[03:18] <BluesKaj> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/112570
[03:18] <intelikey> looking
[03:19] <rr72> intelikey~ debby doesnt like taht tho
[03:19] <intelikey> BluesKaj lets try removing the offending packages, shall we...  sudo apt-get remove  openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[03:20] <rikioh> i followed the guidelines on java.sun.com for installing java on my machine and it installed in my home/username directory so inside i now have home/username/jre 1.5.06
[03:20] <rikioh> but it dont work in my web browser
[03:20] <rikioh> do i need a plugin ?
[03:20] <gekko`> intelikey: "03:00 < gekko`> BluesKaj: try apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za"
[03:20] <gekko`> ^^
[03:21] <Hawkwind> !java > rikioh
[03:29] <BluesKaj> intelikey, gekko , ..http://pastebin.ca/112578
[03:31] <intelikey> BluesKaj sudo dpkg -P --force-all  openoffice.org-l10n-en-us
[03:32] <acid-trip> ok right now i'm in unix would kubuntu be able to mount and read my ufs temporarily to give me time to get the data i want off of it?
[03:33] <soulrider> how can i view partitoons adn the free space?
[03:33] <rikioh> the following packages have unmet dependencies: sun-java5-bin: depends: unixodbc but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[03:33] <soulrider> !free space
[03:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about free space - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:33] <intelikey> df -h
[03:33] <soulrider> thanks
[03:33] <intelikey> fdisk -l
[03:33] <acid-trip> lol inte
[03:34] <rikioh> the following packages have unmet dependencies: sun-java5-bin: depends: unixodbc but it is not installable E: Broken packages............. thats what it says when i try to use sudo apt-install sun-java5-bin
[03:35] <intelikey> acid-trip ufs is in the mount 'known file systems'
[03:35] <intelikey> patients is a vertue.
[03:35] <zappix> Hello.
[03:36] <intelikey> rikioh enable your repos and install it.
[03:36] <intelikey> unixodbc - ODBC tools libraries
[03:36] <zappix> Erm.... for some reason, when I attempt to run "make file"
[03:36] <intelikey> !info unixodbc
[03:36] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[03:37] <zappix> I get a "make: unknown command" error
[03:37] <rikioh> multiverse and universe are enabled intelikey
[03:37] <intelikey> zappix sudo apt-get install build-essiental
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> zappix: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry, intelikey, but spelling mattesr. ;)
[03:37] <intelikey> rikioh read ubotu ^
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow, that was ironic. matters*
[03:38] <BluesKaj> well, it looked good at first intelikey, but it's still not working
[03:38] <BluesKaj> http://pastebin.ca/112587
[03:38] <zappix> Reading package lists... Done
[03:38] <zappix> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:38] <zappix> E: Couldn't find package build-essiental
[03:38] <intelikey> i was a little earily wasn't it CheeseBurgerMan
[03:38] <zappix> That supposed to happen? >>
[03:38] <TheHighChild> essential***
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> zappix: OK, have you run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[03:39] <zappix> nope.
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try it. ;)
[03:39] <zappix> Reading package lists... done
[03:39] <zappix> woo
[03:39] <TheHighChild> zappix: It's essential, not essiental
[03:39] <zappix> heh
[03:39] <rikioh> intelikey im following that guide after enabling mutiverse and universe it says to open konsole and type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[03:39] <zappix> That makes sense =P
[03:40] <rikioh> when i do that i get an error tho
[03:40] <rikioh> that its not installable
[03:40] <zappix> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[03:40] <zappix> Sure it is build-essential?
[03:41] <zappix> o_O
[03:41] <intelikey> rikioh that package is in "main"
[03:41] <intelikey> BluesKaj i don't see any problem with that pastebin   looks good to me.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> ok, I'll post the message i get from synaptic
[03:42] <BluesKaj> I'm getting tired anyway
[03:43] <zappix> By the looks of it, it did not work....
[03:43] <zappix> D:
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> zappix: Since you've added multiverse/universe, have you run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[03:44] <zappix> Yes.
[03:44] <intelikey> BluesKaj you could wild card that thing   sudo dpkg -P --force-all `dpkg -l | grep openoffice | cut -d' ' -f3`         <---- if that don't fix it, it can't be fixed.    then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[03:44] <TheHighChild> apt-cache search build |grep essential
[03:44] <TheHighChild> see if that turns up anything
[03:45] <zappix> Me?
[03:45] <zappix> No messages were returned.
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes.
[03:46] <intelikey> TheHighChild apt-cache  searches the database of 'installable' packages.   dpkg -l  displays the installed ones.
[03:46] <TheHighChild> intelikey: isn't he trying to install build-essential?
[03:46] <intelikey> !info build-essential
[03:46] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[03:47] <intelikey> TheHighChild i hope so.
[03:47] <intelikey> !repos
[03:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:47] <intelikey> !easysource
[03:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:47] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[03:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:48] <zappix> Oh
[03:48] <zappix> right
[03:48] <BluesKaj> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[03:48] <BluesKaj> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[03:48] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe
[03:48] <intelikey>           multiverse
[03:48] <rikioh> intelikey is there something i need to use the firefox java plugin because it says package break - ther was an error commiting changes. possible there was a problem download some packages or the commit would break packages
[03:48] <zappix> !info build-essential
[03:48] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[03:48] <zappix> !info: Event not found
[03:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about info: Event not found - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:48] <rikioh> it wont even let me download the package thru adept
[03:48] <zappix> And......Build-essential is used in replacment of "make?"
[03:48] <rikioh> it just says package break
[03:49] <zappix> The problem is I have to run a Makefile but "make" is an unknown command D:
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> zappix: build-essential is a metapackage which installs make and other things that let you compile stuff. If I remember everything that it installed, I'd tell you. ;)
[03:49] <TheHighChild> zappix: make is a part of the build-essential package
[03:49] <TheHighChild> damn that was fast
[03:49] <zappix> Ah
[03:49] <zappix> ok
[03:50] <zappix> Guessing I need to get it from somewhere?
[03:50] <TheHighChild> zappix: make sure you added the repos to your sources.list, pastebin them if you don't mind
[03:51] <zappix> ...eh?
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:52] <rikioh> i wouldnt care if i had java for konqueror or firefox but i cant find a java plugin for konqueror and the java plugin for mozilla firefox is a proken package that i cant download cuz it would cause a break
[03:53] <lnxkde> DaSkreech, :D
[03:53] <lnxkde> DaSkreech, sup!?
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> rikioh: IF the one in the repos doesn't work, you could try download the one from java.com
[03:53] <pihl`> does kubuntu come packaged with mozilla firefox or do I have to install it manually?
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> pihl`: It's packaged.
[03:53] <rikioh> mine wasnt cheese burger
[03:53] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Dude Just thought of you
[03:54] <pihl`> how do I start it then? :P
[03:54] <rikioh> i just put firefox on today
[03:54] <kana> pihl`: if it is installed type in a terminal firefox
[03:54] <lnxkde> DaSkreech, ???
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> pihl`: Uh, K Menu > Internet > Firefox ?
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or what kana said.
[03:54] <wckdkl0wn_> is there a way to speed up the web browser? its slow as dirt in linux
[03:54] <pihl`> nope, nothing
[03:54] <DaSkreech> I just got like all the chinese music off of ibiblio and have been trying o kick bash to recognize the mime types :_
[03:54] <TheHighChild> rikioh: did you upgrade from another version of kubuntu?
[03:54] <rikioh> search for it in adept pihl
[03:54] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: So what's up
[03:54] <BluesKaj> intelikey, could this openoffice blockage problem be a bad repository ?
[03:55] <rikioh> nope first install highchild
[03:55] <kana> pihl`: it need to be installed
[03:55] <pihl`> kk
[03:55] <pihl`> firefox then?
[03:55] <pihl`> or mozilla-firefox :P
[03:55] <TheHighChild> the mozilla-firefox package is a dummy
[03:55] <kana> yap sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:55] <TheHighChild> just get firefox
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> pihl`: 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[03:55] <pihl`> there's so many to choose from :P
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Grr, beaten. :)
[03:55] <pihl`> kk
[03:55] <lnxkde> DaSkreech,  nothing much , just installed e17
[03:56] <lnxkde> is very nice
[03:56] <lnxkde> but with some bad bugs....
[03:56] <lnxkde> it is cvs...
[03:56] <lnxkde> brb phone...
[03:56] <dako> ark cannot open zip files
[03:56] <dako> any clues?
[03:56] <TheHighChild> wckdkl0wn_: a plugin called fasterfox is nice for tweaks and whatnot. Google "firefox hacks" or "firefox tweaks" and you'll get a bunch of tips
[03:56] <pihl`> thanks :)
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Fasterfox isn't nice to servers.
[03:57] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529.
[03:57] <phoonaz> hey guys
[03:57] <TheHighChild> dako: you probably need to download the proprietary package to use zip
[03:57] <BluesKaj> if yer running 64bit cpu , swiftfox werks too
[03:57] <dako> which one is that?
[03:57] <phoonaz> anyone had problems with the nvidia drivers?
[03:57] <zappix> Sorry about that
[03:57] <wckdkl0wn_> TheHighChild: its the same with any browser i use
[03:57] <zappix> I beleive my power supply needs
[03:57] <zappix> to be replaced
[03:58] <TheHighChild> wckdkl0wn_: Perhaps your inet sucks?
[03:58] <zappix> So...er...the fan was making this weird noise and the computer just froze
[03:58] <zappix> anyways
[03:58] <wckdkl0wn_> TheHighChild: 6meg cable teir
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> zappix: Pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Unless you did, then I missed it, and should go check. ;)
[03:58] <TheHighChild> wckdkl0wn_: ping an IP and then a hostname, see if there is a big difference, if so, your DNS servers may not be optimal
[03:58] <wckdkl0wn_> TheHighChild: with windows it was way faster but with linux it takes like 2 minutes to load a page
[03:59] <Ertain> My screensaver wasn't working.  After the KDE-libs update, it started to finally work.  Now I need to keep power saving on to trigger the screensaver.  Trouble is, the option is not saved; I have to reset it each time I log on.
[03:59] <phoonaz> anyone got an nvidia card?
[03:59] <mikomiko> after upgrade my sound is gone
[03:59] <zappix> I do
[03:59] <soulrider> phoonaz:  i do
[03:59] <zappix> I have a NVIDA VANTA
[03:59] <TheHighChild> phoonaz: yeah
[03:59] <mikomiko> how do i correct that
[03:59] <soulrider> !nvidia > phoonaz
[03:59] <zappix> I have an ATI Radeon 9250 but it doesn't work with Linux.
[04:00] <soulrider> VANTA? isnt that like REALLY old
[04:00] <phoonaz> soulrider: u reckon u could give us some help installing the drivers??
[04:00] <soulrider> uhm
[04:00] <soulrider> ill try
[04:00] <soulrider> i installed them so maybe i can help
[04:00] <zappix> Yeah. I only use it because my ATI Radeon doesn't work with windows =S
[04:00] <zappix> erm
[04:00] <rikioh> ok so if i download the packages from java.sun.com where should i install them
[04:00] <zappix> Linux
[04:00] <zappix> XD
[04:00] <mikomiko> rikioh
[04:00] <phoonaz> soulrider: cus it doesnt like me for some reason :(
[04:01] <mikomiko> just get the easy ubuntu
[04:01] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Gotta run.
[04:01] <soulrider> phoonaz: what error do you get?
[04:01] <mikomiko> so you dont have to worry of where and what
[04:01] <soulrider> !nvidia
[04:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:01] <phoonaz> soulrider: im trying to get cedega running :(
[04:01] <mikomiko> youjust click and its done
[04:01] <rikioh> i already tried installing them once in my home directory  /home/kevin/jre1.5.0_06
[04:01] <kana> rikioh: you are still with this
[04:01] <soulrider> oh sorry, no idea, never used it
[04:01] <rikioh> yes kana
[04:01] <rikioh> still :(
[04:01] <soulrider> but could you install the drivers correctly?
[04:01] <kana> rikioh: so you finally knew where it was downloaded
[04:01] <rikioh> yes
[04:01] <kana> rikioh: why did not you just install it from the repos
[04:01] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529 <-- Something about ''xlibs''
[04:01] <rikioh> because the package is broken
[04:02] <kana> rikioh: i am running it here
[04:02] <rikioh> well it says broken for me
[04:02] <rikioh> :(
[04:02] <phoonaz> soulrider: when in adept i downloaded what i believed to be the right files but then it uninstalled them straight away when i goto download somin else?
[04:02] <soulrider> check this link
[04:02] <rikioh> well its the mozilla java plugin thats broken in the repos
[04:02] <soulrider> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <kana> rikioh: adept said it was broken or aptitude told you that
[04:02] <rikioh> adept said
[04:03] <kana> rikioh: you are the first one i ever here complaining of that
[04:03] <rikioh> sorry :(
[04:03] <kana> rikioh: anyway if you install it manually you will do the upgrade yourself you know that
[04:03] <rikioh> java is installed i just have to link it to firefox now
[04:03] <TheHighChild> phoonaz: I am not going to try to get too into this as it seems you already have help. All I want to do is suggest backing up your xorg.conf like so 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak-8-2-06' Then you'll have a backup in case you mess something up
[04:04] <Ertain> So... Anyone know about screensavers and power saving?
[04:04] <kana> ok you will find under the package dir /lib/java../ a plugin dir
[04:04] <rikioh> and i cant use the firefox java plugin from adept cuz it wont let me install it cuz it says its a broke package
[04:04] <rikioh> ok
[04:04] <zappix> Um
[04:04] <zappix> Which sources.list?
[04:04] <TheHighChild>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:04] <zappix> etc/apt | etc/debtages or usr/share/doc.........
[04:05] <zappix> k
[04:05] <phoonaz> TheHighChild: cheers man
[04:05] <kana> rikioh: by the way this might be cause of bad mirror i advise to use the main mirrors
[04:05] <rikioh> ok kana and inside that there is a desktop directory and a i386 directory
[04:05] <dako> anyone know why ark won't open zip files?
[04:05] <kana> rikioh: open the i386
[04:05] <zappix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19530
[04:05] <rr72> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[04:05] <rikioh> k now i have directories ns7 and ns7-gcc29
[04:05] <zappix> okay
[04:06] <rr72> how do i upgrade those 2?
[04:06] <TheHighChild> phoonaz: When I installed my drivers, all it required was a 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' and a 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' and that was it for me. I've heard of other people having trouble beyond that though.
[04:06] <kana> go to ns7
[04:06] <kana> the other one for old gcc
[04:06] <rikioh> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:06] <kana> dako: install zip package
[04:06] <rr72> TheHighChild~ i had to do nvidia by hand since i was getting signal 11
[04:06] <kana> rikioh: great do you know how to symbolically link
[04:06] <TheHighChild> ln -s /pathname
[04:06] <rikioh> nope
[04:06] <soulrider> whats signal 11
[04:06] <soulrider> it soudns so horror movie like
[04:07] <dako> kana which one?
[04:07] <kana> rikioh: or tell you what copy it to ./mozilla/plugin dir
[04:07] <kana> dako: there is a package called unzip install it
[04:07] <phoonaz> TheHighChild: yeah well im relativly new to linux ... and especially debian-esq distros .... i started on FC4
[04:07] <TheHighChild> phoonaz: Aren't we all?
[04:07] <phoonaz> TheHighChild: not sure are u ? :P
[04:07] <rikioh> i cant seem to find a folder for mozilla kana
[04:07] <dako> kana I looked at adept and it says that it's installed.Should I un-install it and re-install?
[04:07] <kana> rikioh: sorry .mozilla/plugins dir
[04:08] <kana> dako: nope
[04:08] <kana> it should work then
[04:08] <TheHighChild> zappix: Every single repo is commented out. lol
[04:08] <rikioh> i cant find a folder for mozilla
[04:08] <TheHighChild> thats a problem
[04:08] <zappix> Yse.
[04:08] <kana> rikioh: make one
[04:08] <rikioh> so in home/kevin make a mozilla folder
[04:09] <kana> rikioh: type this
[04:09] <kana> rikioh: cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:09] <TheHighChild> remove the '#' from in front of the repos, save the file and sudo apt-get update (remember to back it up first) 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak-8-2-06
[04:09] <rikioh> no such file or directory kana
[04:10] <zappix> Gragghhh you need root access when modifying the file
[04:10] <TheHighChild> zappix: Let me know if you need help with that
[04:10] <zappix> Kate <file> doesn't work right for me D:
[04:10] <kana> rikioh: then type mkdir $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:10] <rikioh> k it did that
[04:11] <TheHighChild> zappix: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:11] <kana> rikioh: now copy the file to the newly created dir
[04:11] <TheHighChild> You can't edit a root owned file with a lesser priveledged application
[04:11] <zappix> Yse.
[04:11] <kana> rikioh: wait do you use konq or mozilla firefox
[04:11] <TheHighChild> zappix: I use the nano editor, it works in the terminal. A quick ctrl + o to save and ctrl + x to quit
[04:11] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''. Work as a normal user, not as root.
[04:12] <zappix> root@ZNet:/home/zappix# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:12] <zappix> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:12] <zappix> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:12] <zappix> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[04:12] <zappix> >>;
[04:12] <kana> !pastebin
[04:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:12] <zappix> got that with the other meathod AND this one
[04:12] <TheHighChild> zappix: but it still worked right?
[04:12] <rikioh> firefox
[04:12] <zappix> nope.
[04:12] <kana> rikioh: ok
[04:12] <zappix> Oh cool
[04:12] <zappix> Nano
[04:12] <rikioh> the folder isnt showing up on the gui side
[04:12] <rikioh> but im in the directory in konsole
[04:12] <kana> rikioh: because it is hidden
[04:12] <zappix> I use this when managing my eggdrop bot someone hosts for me..
[04:12] <rikioh> oh
[04:12] <Cornellius> I got the same error as zappix ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529
[04:13] <Cornellius> zappix: Next time, pastebin
[04:13] <TheHighChild> nano is based on the pico editor if I am not mistaken, it barrels for small time edits
[04:13] <rikioh> well i dont know how to copy and paste things from konsole lol
[04:13] <rikioh> or can i view the hidden folder in the gui and do it
[04:13] <kana> rikioh: go to where the libjavaplugin file is located
[04:13] <TheHighChild> zappix: I didn't realize you were root, you didn't need kdesu with that kate command. sorry
[04:14] <kana> rikioh: you can but i do not know how to do it in konquer
[04:14] <rikioh> ok im where that file is located
[04:14] <kana> rikioh: what is the file name
[04:14] <rikioh> wait hold on i need to be doing this in konsole dont i
[04:14] <zappix> okay
[04:14] <kana> yah
[04:14] <zappix> I've uncommented whatever is neccesary
[04:15] <TheHighChild> zappix: You've only uncommented the repos right and not the comments? Can you pastebin the new one pelase
[04:15] <Cornellius> Haw, I have xlibs-dev in my repositories but not xlibs
[04:15] <zappix> Okay...
[04:16] <kana> Cornellius: you have xserver-xorg xlibs is the old xserver
[04:16] <Cornellius> kana: What should I do ?
[04:16] <rikioh> ok kana im there
[04:16] <kana> Cornellius: what is the problem exactly
[04:16] <kana> rikioh: what is the filename again
[04:17] <Cornellius> kana: Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''. Work as a normal user, not as root.
[04:17] <rikioh> file name = libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:17] <kana> Cornellius: ok give me a min
[04:17] <zappix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19531
[04:17] <zappix> There.
[04:17] <kana> ok rikioh type cp libjavaplygin_oji.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:18] <TheHighChild> zappix: Looks good, just remove the extra space in front of some of the repos. and then do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential and you should be good to go
[04:18] <kana> rikioh: a quick way is to use tab completion jsut type cp libjava then tab will complete it for you
[04:18] <andy1> you dont want to be copying the plugin...you want to be making a symbolic link to it in the browser plugins folder
[04:18] <rikioh> ok its in /.mozilla/plugins now
[04:19] <kana> andy1: he installed it manually and both work
[04:19] <BluesKaj> synaptic says i have a broken pkg and to use the broken filter to find it but it doesn't show it
[04:19] <rikioh> i changed directories to that and typed dir... and it showed libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:19] <rikioh> so it pasted it in the mozilla plugin folder
[04:19] <kana> ok now close all firefox and then reopen it
[04:19] <kana> and try to test your java
[04:19] <TheHighChild> rikioh: You don't want to paste it, you want to link it
[04:20] <kana> Cornellius: so which application you have problem with
[04:20] <TheHighChild> Maybe I am wrong, sorry, don't listen to me
[04:20] <zappix> It appears to be working...
[04:20] <kana> TheHighChild: both ways should work
[04:20] <zappix> downloading a bunch of things.
[04:20] <Cornellius> kana: A lot of applications
[04:20] <TheHighChild> kana: Cool, didn't know that. Thanks
[04:20] <rikioh> didnt work kana :(
[04:20] <TheHighChild> zappix: Awesome, glad to hear that.
[04:20] <kana> TheHighChild: if the plugin can find java on the path and that is the main problem when you install to local folder
[04:20] <zappix> Alright, it went... thakns ^^
[04:21] <zappix> Okay.......
[04:21] <zappix> Now how would I use a Makefile?
[04:21] <rikioh> where the java app should be i still have a white screen with a green puzzle peice
[04:21] <TheHighChild> zappix: np, sorry it took so long. I could always have editted your sources for yu and whatnot but that wouldn't have tought you much in the long run
[04:21] <BluesKaj> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages...WTF does this mean ?
[04:21] <TheHighChild> zappix: Should tell you what to do in the README. Usually you have to initiate make to create a makefile and then 'make install'
[04:22] <zappix> OH
[04:22] <zappix> RIGHT
[04:22] <kana> rikioh: because the plugin can not find the proper java
[04:22] <bytefoo> anyone know why usb headphones don't work in kubuntu? i've tried two different ones, but they don't work, even though the usb_sound module shows up in /proc/asound :|
[04:22] <zappix> I can now use the "make" commands
[04:22] <zappix> XD
[04:22] <TheHighChild> ;)
[04:22] <BluesKaj> how can i fix it if it won't ID the offending pkgs
[04:22] <kana> Cornellius: so you do not have a graphical interface all together?
[04:22] <rikioh> i followed the guidlines on java.sun.com
[04:23] <rikioh> and installed the bin file in home/kevin
[04:23] <andy1> what browser are you using rikiioh
[04:23] <rikioh> firefox
[04:23] <Cornellius> kana: Yes I do, but when I just gedit in a terminal, it works. When I sudo gedit blablabla, it tells me what I pasted in the pastebin.
[04:23] <kana> rikioh: java is normally installed under /usr/lib more specifically /usr/lib/jvm/
[04:24] <andy1> well you want to be in the firefox plugins folder and type : ln -s /path to java plugin/libjavaplugin.so
[04:24] <kana> Cornellius: ok we are getting somewhere
[04:24] <kana> rikioh: try andy1 way try symbolic linking might work
[04:25] <TheHighChild> Cornellius: have you tried intiating it as gdmsu gedit filename?
[04:25] <kana> Cornellius: are you logged in as root when you are trying to run gedit
[04:26] <zuus> hey
[04:26] <acid-trip> i need help mounting a ufs in kubuntu
[04:26] <kana> Cornellius: did you enable your root account for the paste you linked me too says you are root
[04:26] <zappix> Umm
[04:26] <Cornellius> kana: No. I did su,  then gedit blablabla
[04:26] <zappix> Make install uninstall etc. still isn't working right
[04:26] <zappix> I receive errors...
[04:26] <zappix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19532
[04:27] <kana> Cornellius: use sudo blah blah blah
[04:27] <Cornellius> I did
[04:27] <kana> su is not allowed a gui on uunt
[04:27] <kana> ubuntu
[04:27] <Cornellius> It used to work before
[04:28] <kana> Cornellius: this is what you pasted root@alain:/home/alain# gedit
[04:28] <kana> which say you are logged in as root
[04:28] <Cornellius> I know
[04:28] <Cornellius> but before I could gedit something as roo
[04:28] <TheHighChild> zappix: You're beyond me at this point, sorry man
[04:28] <Cornellius> *root
[04:28] <Cornellius> in another HD
[04:28] <kana> ubuntu you might but not in a gui
[04:29] <kana> Cornellius: in command line ok not gui
[04:29] <zappix> alright
[04:29] <zappix> thanks anyway =/
[04:29] <zappix> But thanks for the help earlier =P
[04:29] <zappix> wait
[04:29] <zappix> don't you have to run like ./configure first?
[04:29] <Cornellius> kana: Why's that ?
[04:29] <kana> its the security measures that are implemented by ubuntu
[04:29] <zappix> because ./configure STILL doesn't work
[04:30] <zuus> hey how come kubuntu seems to put itself in a random HDD's MBR in my system? i can load the boot cd, install it onto its own dedicated HDD, but i reboot after the install and (after trying to boot from all of them) none will load it. One always pops up with Grub, but comes up with an error
[04:30] <kana> !root ? Cornellius
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about root ? Cornellius - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:30] <kana> !sudo ? Cornellius
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about sudo ? Cornellius - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:30] <kana> !root > Cornellius
[04:30] <kana> my mistake
[04:30] <Cornellius> kana: hehehe, just tell me why. Oh
[04:30] <kana> it is the way it is set on ubuntu Cornellius
[04:31] <Cornellius> kana: But that is new right ? On a clean install, no repo added, no updates, I could su, then gedit blablabla
[04:31] <kana> they and FBSD claim that sudo is more secure then su
[04:31] <Cornellius> kana: Still, thanks for the ansers
[04:31] <pierreth> abattoir:?
[04:31] <rikioh> that didnt work either ok kana just tell me one thing before i try to attempt to install it in usr/lib/jvm   should i erase the older java folders that are in there
[04:31] <kana> Cornellius: am not a developer so do not know of the pecualrities take care
[04:31] <kana> rikioh: nope
[04:32] <rikioh> ok
[04:32] <rikioh> well im gonna install java to that folder
[04:32] <kana> they are used by openoffice
[04:32] <rikioh> so ill brb
[04:32] <kana> rikioh: not install
[04:32] <kana> just copy them there
[04:32] <bkudria> when i hit my keyboard volume-up and volume-down mixer, it adjusts kmix's master mixer...but sound on my system is not affected by this mixer, only the PCM mixer...how do i fix this?
[04:32] <rikioh> oh... gotcha
[04:34] <pierreth> can i make kde as cool as xfce?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Yes
[04:34] <Hawkwind> pierreth: You can do anything you want as far as customization of any DE/WM
[04:34] <abattoir> Hawkwind, pierreth: hello :)
[04:34] <pierreth> Hawkwind: you think? because i have some questions
[04:34] <rikioh> kana it said access denied when i tried to copy them there
[04:34] <rikioh> do i need root?
[04:34] <pierreth> abattoir: hello!
[04:35] <kana> pierreth: i think kde is already cooler then xfce :)
[04:35] <kana> rikioh: yes you need sudo
[04:35] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good evening sir!
[04:35] <flaccid> silly question off topic. how do i op myself in my own channel that own on freenode ?
[04:35] <zappix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19532 <------- somebody told me
[04:35] <zappix> install the kernel source
[04:35] <zappix> but how? ^^;
[04:35] <pierreth> abattoir: i made the test with kde and xfce, xfce won!
[04:35] <abattoir> Hawkwind: the same to you.
[04:35] <Hawkwind> flaccid: /msg chanserv op #Channel <nick>
[04:35] <abattoir> pierreth: what 'test'? :P
[04:35] <hansent> pierreth:  What's so cool about xfce? (that's a genuine question)
[04:35] <kana> pierreth: did you try new themes
[04:35] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Best to ask that in #Freenode though
[04:35] <kana> there are plenty of them
[04:35] <flaccid> oh is that where you go
[04:36] <abattoir> pierreth: if you are happy w/ xubuntu, then go w/ it :)
[04:36] <flaccid> thanks
[04:36] <pierreth> kana: it is not the appearance
[04:36] <kana> pierreth: then speed
[04:36] <flaccid> Hawkwind: that redirects to #freenode-social
[04:36] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Exactly
[04:36] <pierreth> abattoir: can i use the kde application with xfce?
[04:36] <Hawkwind> flaccid: That's where you ask, once you're given a voice (+v)
[04:36] <flaccid> Hawkwind: you have to wait for a voice... very long time
[04:36] <abattoir> pierreth: yes, you should be able to...
[04:36] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Yes
[04:36] <pierreth> cool!
[04:37] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I don't, I'm on the access list :P
[04:37] <rikioh> kana out of sheer luck i think i figured out my problem
[04:37] <kana> xfce is predominantly gtk based right ?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> kana: Yes
[04:37] <kana> pierreth: if you are looking for speed look at icewm
[04:37] <kana> rikioh: great :)
[04:37] <pierreth> i would like to make title of the apps disappear in the kicker
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Xfce is just as fast as IceWM would be
[04:37] <rikioh> heres what i think the problem is... ok i created a mozilla/plugins folder and pasted the so file there right
[04:37] <flaccid> Hawkwind: mad :) how do i find out who owns a channel? sorry about asking, but i can't wait for voice
[04:37] <zappix> How do I "install the kernel source?"
[04:38] <rikioh> well when i was browsing i just found this  usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[04:38] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Ask in #Freenode.  This channel isn't here for that stuff really
[04:38] <rikioh> i think i need to paste it there
[04:38] <rikioh> and it might work
[04:38] <flaccid> i was hoping you'd be ubuntu-like
[04:38] <kana> rikioh: nope
[04:38] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Though if you must know, /msg chanserv help
[04:38] <rikioh> darn
[04:38] <kana> rikioh: the local .mozilla is for your account
[04:38] <hansent> zappix: do you need the entire kernel or just the headers?
[04:38] <kana> the global /lib/firefox is for all users
[04:39] <rikioh> ah... thought i finally figured something out :)
[04:39] <pierreth> is it possible with kde?
[04:39] <kana> rikioh: so if it did not work for you the first time it will not the second :)
[04:39] <abattoir> pierreth: what?
[04:39] <zappix> hansent: well my problem can be found here
[04:39] <zappix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19532
[04:39] <abattoir> pierreth: you dont want the taskbar?
[04:39] <zappix> when I run make install uninstall /etc.
[04:39] <pierreth> abattoir: i would like to not see the titles of the applications in the task bar of the kicker
[04:39] <zappix> it returns errors
[04:39] <rikioh> ok well im about to put java in user/lib/jvm
[04:39] <rikioh> brb
[04:40] <pierreth> abattoir: just like in xfce
[04:40] <rikioh> after i do that should i try to link the plugins new location to the mozilla folder?
[04:40] <abattoir> pierreth: what else would you like to see? icons? or do you want to remove the tasbar itself?
[04:40] <pierreth> abattoir: i would save losts of space
[04:40] <abattoir> pierreth: hmmmm... i dont remember xfce
[04:40] <pierreth> abattoir: just the icons
[04:40] <kana> rikioh: yap and i will first make a little test to see if everything is in proper order
[04:40] <hansent> zappix: you can get the source froim teh repositories
[04:40] <rikioh> ok
[04:41] <zappix> You mean like kernel.org or whatever it is?
[04:41] <zappix> >>;
[04:41] <kana> pierreth: have a look at kde-look.org
[04:41] <pierreth> with kde, you can remove the icons from the task bar of the kicker but the title's name
[04:41] <pierreth> kana: ok
[04:41] <hansent> zappix:no the ubuntu repos
[04:42] <flaccid> Hawkwind: heh people giving me shit in #freenode-social and aint even got a voice to responde :(
[04:42] <hansent> zappix: try this command:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:42] <pierreth> kana: can you help me find what i am looking for
[04:43] <kana> pierreth: am not that proficient with gui stuff
[04:43] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Try and watch the language please
[04:43] <hansent> zappix: that should install the kernel headers....if that doesnt work you might need the entire kernel...but I doubt that (that package is called "linux-source")
[04:43] <flaccid> i try but can't gaurantee anything
[04:43] <pierreth> kana: ok, but my problem is not really if the look but more about the behaviour
[04:44] <kana> pierreth: ok what is the problem
[04:44] <zappix> ok
[04:44] <hansent> zappix: unlless of course you have installed a differnt kernel...but since you don't have the source I doubt that would be the case
[04:44] <zappix> alright
[04:44] <pierreth> i would like to see only the icons of the app in the task bar of the kicker
[04:44] <hansent> zappix: does your build work now?
[04:44] <zappix> it appears to have finished
[04:44] <zappix> make commands should work now?
[04:45] <hansent> zappix:give it a try
[04:45] <kana> pierreth: that is defently gui am sure there is a way to set it did you try kcontrol the kde control center or just right clicking with the mouse on the taskbar
[04:46] <zappix> hansent: it LOOKS like it's working
[04:46] <zappix> Thanks! ^^
[04:46] <acid-trip> could some one help me mount a ufs in kubuntu
[04:46] <zappix> uhm
[04:46] <pierreth> kana: in the control center, it is possible to remove the icon but not the title
[04:46] <hansent> zappix: no problem
[04:46] <kana> pierreth: sorry was not of more help but i told you i just work with default gui. frankly i run the min fluxbox and ion here
[04:46] <zappix> one second
[04:46] <pierreth> kana: with the right i tried too
[04:46] <rikioh> kanna can i use cp /jre1.5.0_06 ~/usr/lib/jvm
[04:47] <rikioh> would that take the whole folder and put it there?
[04:47] <zappix> Hansent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19534
[04:47] <zappix> It's still error'ing out
[04:47] <pierreth> kana: cool if you like it, but kde would my favorite if it is possible to set it the way i want it
[04:47] <kana> rikioh: cp -dir <location of jre dir> /usr/lib/jvm/
[04:48] <rikioh> ah ok... i was close :)
[04:48] <kana> pierreth: i am sure you can do it easily just wait for someone who use it regularly try the helpcenter
[04:48] <soulrider> is there any way to get rid of the pager? and maybe the clock
[04:48] <hansent> zappix: yeah but it's a different error...did you run that as root?
[04:48] <abattoir> soulrider: rt.click->Remove applet
[04:48] <hansent> zappix: as in with "sudo"
[04:48] <zappix> hansent: XD good idea
[04:49] <soulrider> hansent: that doesnt work
[04:49] <pierreth> kana: ok, i am trying to find some help here just right now :-)
[04:49] <kana> pierreth: before that browse the website i sent you pick up a look you want then there will be instructions on how to get it
[04:49] <abattoir> soulrider: or remove pager... whatever it says
[04:49] <rikioh> so if its just in my home directory it i would type cp -dir <jre1.5.0_06> /usr/lib/jvm
[04:49] <soulrider> oh yes, sorry
[04:49] <hansent> soulrdier: what doesn't work?
[04:49] <pierreth> kana: ok
[04:49] <soulrider> i had to click on the tiny bar
[04:49] <kana> rikioh: yap
[04:49] <rikioh> kk
[04:49] <soulrider> thanks1
[04:49] <soulrider> !
[04:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:49] <rr72> soulrider~ questions about kde #kde is very helpful
[04:50] <rikioh> and im gonna need sudo so do i type sudo cp -dir?
[04:50] <rr72> !soulrider
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about soulrider - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:50] <pierreth> i would like to know if it is possible to change the view in Konqueror without going in a submenu?
[04:50] <kana> rikioh: you are picking it up right
[04:50] <zappix> Hansent: By the looks of it, it worked. Thanks again
[04:50] <rikioh> i think so :)
[04:50] <soulrider> lol
[04:50] <kana> there is a classrom room for teaching things about ubuntu
[04:50] <bkudria> when i hit my keyboard volume-up and volume-down mixer, it adjusts kmix's master mixer...but sound on my system is not affected by this mixer, only the PCM mixer...how do i fix this?
[04:50] <kana> let me check the schedule
[04:50] <hansent> zappix: no problem...what device do you need the windows driver for?
[04:51] <zappix> Westell 802.11g Wireless USB adapter
[04:51] <kana> rikioh: check this out is really good for begginers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[04:51] <pierreth> abattoir: ?
[04:51] <abattoir> pierreth: ???
[04:51] <abattoir> pierreth: you still stuck w/ the taskbar?
[04:52] <pierreth> abattoir: have you find it?
[04:52] <pierreth> abattoir: yes
[04:52] <hansent> zappix: ahh...don't have much experience with any of the usb wireless devices...lt me know if when you get it working though, I was thinking about getting one...
[04:52] <abattoir> pierreth: afaik, it is not possible.. you can hide/show icons... but not the title bar....
[04:52] <zappix> Hansent: Alright... I just gotta find out how to use this now XP
[04:52] <pierreth> abattoir: :-(
[04:52] <abattoir> pierreth: i mean, the title of the app, of course
[04:53] <abattoir> pierreth: you could ask in #kde , if you want
[04:53] <rikioh> kana: when i type cp -dir <jre1.5.0_06> /usr/lib/jvm       it comes back with bash: /usr/lib/jvm/ is a drectory
[04:53] <blackdogjeff> hi everybody
[04:53] <zappix> Hello.
[04:53] <pierreth> abattoir: can i select another view in konqueror without going in a submenu?
[04:53] <soulrider> whats TBD?
[04:53] <blackdogjeff> i from brazil
[04:53] <soulrider> oi blackdogjeff
[04:53] <abattoir> pierreth: you want to change view profiles? or view of the directory?
[04:54] <blackdogjeff> oi soulrider
[04:54] <pierreth> abattoir: the view of a dirctory
[04:54] <blackdogjeff> e ae tc de onde?
[04:54] <kana> rikioh: ok let me check this out
[04:54] <soulrider> eu nao falo portugues :P
[04:54] <blackdogjeff> sorry
[04:54] <kana> rikioh: there is a special format for it will try to remember it
[04:54] <blackdogjeff> that's ok
[04:55] <rikioh> kana: ok thank you
[04:55] <abattoir> pierreth: hmmm so you want to 'save' a particular view for a directory....
[04:55] <pierreth> abattoir: no
[04:55] <acid-trip> i figured out how to mount a unix file system
[04:55] <acid-trip> :D
[04:55] <blackdogjeff> where are you from soulrider?
[04:55] <soulrider> uruguay
[04:55] <pierreth> abattoir: i just don't want to go all the time in the submenu
[04:55] <blackdogjeff> cool
[04:55] <abattoir> pierreth: if you dont want to go through the menu, then assign a shortcut key for it
[04:56] <soulrider> does anyone know whats TBD? the classroom times appear as TBD
[04:56] <pierreth> abattoir: can i put a button on a tool bar instead?
[04:56] <blackdogjeff> are you use what kind of linux
[04:56] <blackdogjeff> ?
[04:56] <soulrider> Kubuntu
[04:56] <abattoir> pierreth: could be possible..
[04:56] <kana> rikioh: it should work sudo cp -dir <source>/ <desit>/
[04:56] <kana> do not forget the backslash at the end
[04:56] <pierreth> abattoir: as i know, it is not possible
[04:57] <blackdogjeff> cool !!! i do too
[04:57] <rikioh> and i do use the <>
[04:57] <rikioh> right
[04:57] <abattoir> pierreth: well, ok, wait up
[04:57] <soulrider> =)
[04:57] <kana> right
[04:57] <blackdogjeff> ok ! i'm gonna way
[04:57] <blackdogjeff> its too late here in brazil
[04:58] <blackdogjeff> *away
[04:58] <blackdogjeff> its 00:00 in brazil
[04:59] <blackdogjeff> bye n' have a nice day !
[04:59] <soulrider> bye bye!
[04:59] <rikioh> sudo cp -dir <jre1.5.0_06>/ <usr/lib/jvm>/                       bash: /: Is a directory
[04:59] <rikioh> :(
[05:01] <soulrider> !iCal
[05:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about iCal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:01] <kana> rikioh: do not know i tested the command before i posted it to you and it worked here fine
[05:01] <kana> rikioh: i can only see you missed the / before usr/lib
[05:01] <rikioh> ah
[05:02] <rikioh> well i just redid it with the / there and i got the same error :(
[05:03] <kana> sudo cp -dir jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/lib/jvm/
[05:03] <kana> rikioh: from the place where jre is located
[05:03] <rikioh> i am
[05:03] <rikioh> its at home
[05:03] <rikioh> if i type dir
[05:03] <rikioh> i can see that folder
[05:03] <kana> sudo cp -dir ~/jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/lib/jvm/
[05:04] <rikioh> hey i think that worked
[05:04] <rikioh> it asked me for my password
[05:04] <kana> that is right
[05:05] <manelson> hey, is anyone here running amarok 1.4.1?
[05:05] <rikioh> yes it did work your amazing :)
[05:05] <kana> no pc is stupid you have to be carefull with the spelling and format :)
[05:05] <kana> rikioh: now sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:06] <kana> you will find that sun java is listed
[05:06] <rikioh> in the alternatives list?
[05:07] <kana> yes
[05:07] <rikioh> in the alternates list it says 1. /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1           2. /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[05:07] <kana> rikioh: cp and paste the command i gave you you will see on hte list sun-java
[05:08] <rikioh> is usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java........... is that sun java
[05:09] <RadiantFire> no
[05:09] <kana> rikioh: it is not listed
[05:09] <RadiantFire> thats from gcj -> gcc -> gnu
[05:09] <rikioh> i guess not
[05:10] <RadiantFire> rikioh: have you installed sun-java5-
[05:10] <RadiantFire> its somepackage that has that as its start
[05:10] <rikioh> i installed java manually
[05:10] <kana> rikioh: are you sure you got the jre package from java
[05:10] <rikioh> yes
[05:11] <abattoir> pierreth: if you want it, you can add it manually... ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc is the file
[05:11] <rikioh> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp  ---- linux (self-extracting file_
[05:11] <rikioh> )
[05:12] <rikioh> not the rpm
[05:12] <rikioh> but the other
[05:12] <kana> sudo mv /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/lib/
[05:12] <kana> try this as last resort
[05:13] <Bragi> iam searching for a nice,lightweigth - non console bittorrent client? (i want to manage all torrents in one window,like in azureus - but i dont want to use java because it sucks. and dont sue me for saying this :p)
[05:13] <Bragi> some suggestions?
[05:13] <rikioh> ok it went to the next line
[05:13] <pierreth> abattoir: ok
[05:13] <rikioh> so it did something
[05:14] <kana> Bragi: am looking for one too. heared there was one used by apple bot i lost the link :(
[05:14] <kana> rikioh: it moved the folder
[05:14] <unix_infidel> apple ships with a bit torrent client
[05:14] <rikioh> it moved it up a directory right
[05:14] <rikioh> instead of being in lib
[05:14] <kana> check if the folder is under /usr/lib
[05:14] <unix_infidel> even its posix compatible, doesnt mean its linux compatible.
[05:14] <rikioh> yup its there
[05:15] <kana> unix_infidel: i got it from a post by an apple geek who run ubuntu on an old mac
[05:15] <unix_infidel> kana: URL?
[05:15] <manelson> has anyone here gotten mp3s working on amarok 1.4.1?
[05:15] <kana> yet again i forgot to book mark :(
[05:15] <kana> unix_infidel: i will search for it again give me a min
[05:15] <Bragi> no one.
[05:16] <rikioh> ok now that its moved what should i do
[05:16] <rikioh> look for alternatives again?
[05:16] <kana> try the update alternatives again
[05:17] <rikioh> same 2 kana
[05:17] <unix_infidel> kana: itorrent?
[05:17] <kana> rikioh: do not know what to do more rikioh
[05:17] <kana> unix_infidel: will check itorrent out but reall sorry do not remember
[05:17] <rikioh> ok im gonna try to get sun java in the jvm folder instead of the java.com version
[05:17] <kana> was a while ago
[05:18] <rikioh> and check for alternatives
[05:18] <kana> rikioh: no
[05:18] <rikioh> maybe it will recognize sun java
[05:18] <rikioh> ...k
[05:18] <rikioh> :(
[05:18] <kana> rikioh: this will make things worse
[05:18] <kana> try making the symbolic link to your .mozilla/plugins dir and see if java work
[05:19] <kana> and again it is better to install java from the repos what you are saying is strange for everyone i know installed from the repos
[05:19] <rikioh> ok so i gotta get in the directory that my java is in lib
[05:19] <kana> and had no problems
[05:20] <unix_infidel> kana: might have been this.
[05:20] <unix_infidel> http://transmission.m0k.org/screenshots.php
[05:20] <rikioh> and from lib type sudo -s /plugin.so /.mozilla/plugins ?
[05:20] <rikioh> the symbolic command is -s right
[05:21] <kana> unix_infidel:got the link give me a min for he had couple of packages i liked including democracyplayer
[05:21] <unix_infidel> kana: ?
[05:21] <kana> unix_infidel: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/02/when-the-bough-breaks
[05:22] <kana> am looking for what he recommended for torrent now
[05:22] <unix_infidel> kana: ya, yea democracy player looks really sweet.
[05:24] <kana> ah he recommend ktorrent
[05:25] <kana> does not need java
[05:25] <kana> unix_infidel: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/26/essentials-2006
[05:25] <kana> it has been long since i read the post only thing that got stuck that it doesn't need java
[05:26] <unix_infidel> lol, ktorrent is the first and only client that i've been using as of late.
[05:26] <kana> nice kde never stop to amaze me but the post have really couple of good recomendations
[05:26] <mossman> ktorrent is good!
[05:27] <kana> beagle is another thing i got from there
[05:28] <rikioh> is there a way for me to take a screenshot in kubuntu?
[05:29] <nikkiana> is there a way to make a little icon or something show up to let you know you're connected to a wireless network?
[05:29] <abattoir> rikioh: see if the PrntScrn button works... else open ksnapshot manually
[05:29] <CVirus> Do I have to pay to use the Canonical Commercial repos. ?
[05:29] <abattoir> CVirus: no
[05:29] <CVirus> what do they contain then ?
[05:30] <CVirus> whatever
[05:30] <CVirus> i'll google about it
[05:30] <kana> abattoir: is there a package list for those repos such as that for packages.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <CVirus> thats what I was about to ask
[05:30] <kana> :)
[05:30] <abattoir> nikkiana: hello :)
[05:31] <abattoir> kana, CVirus: i'll see if i too can find something, but its essentially non-open-source commercial stuff
[05:31] <abattoir> like skype, oper
[05:31] <abattoir> *opera
[05:31] <kana> abattoir: ok nice
[05:31] <mossman> Kde will always be the forefront of nix desktop, at least for the forseeable future.  Kde's only downfall is trying to use "k" in the title of every app.  I may get the joke,  but my grandmother wont....ever.  She prefers to uses word for typing word, photoshop for photos and DVDPLAYER for playing dvd's. Us geeks will always find the humor in a game of klickety..but.  everyone else just wants to play mine sweeper.
[05:32] <nikkiana> abattoir, do you know if there's an application that makes a cute little icon in the system tray to let me know i'm connected to a wireless network?
[05:32] <kana> mossman: for me kde main fall is stability
[05:32] <abattoir> nikkiana: sure, there's pywireless....
[05:32] <kana> programs just crach to often on it
[05:32] <abattoir> nikkiana: i'll give you a link wait...
[05:32] <nikkiana> abattoir, okay thanks :)
[05:32] <abattoir> mossman: for me, i'd say it readily identifies an application w/ KDE
[05:32] <kana> isn't there kwireless too
[05:32] <kana> which is applet
[05:33] <Hobbsee> nikkiana: knemo, knetworkmanager
[05:33] <abattoir> kana: kwirelessmonitor?
[05:34] <mossman> Me too.. I have been with kde since version 1.... Just a small rant from a previous comment.  How can I get my CEO to take kde seriously when everything is  kalled ksomething different..  Trust me I love kde..if not I would have bought a ppc and swiched to OSX a long time ago
[05:34] <kana> abattoir: nope Hobbsee said it knewtorkmangaer is the package name
[05:34] <kana> or ya it is kwirelessmonitor
[05:34] <kana> ah am so sleepy here
[05:34] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure if wlassistant gives you a notification down the bottom too
[05:35] <abattoir> kana: hmm, i just use pywireless to trigger wlassistant
[05:35] <abattoir> nikkiana: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=28637
[05:35] <mossman> K   Does identifiy an app.  I get it.  You get it.. Most likely everyone on this channel gets it.  What about the non geeks?
[05:36] <abattoir> mossman: i'm not a geek :)
[05:36] <CVirus> just apt-get install kwirelessmonitor and runs it and it crashes :-)
[05:36] <kana> i have just one question. Qnext is the only application to my knowledge that support voice and video chat under linux yet it is not referred to in any howto or wiki. Was wondering why especially i regard that as a real lack in linux
[05:36] <kana> CVirus: lol
[05:36] <mossman> HA.... You are here??  Yes no..?  More of a geek than he wants to believe I think
[05:36] <CVirus> run*
[05:37] <nikkiana> abattoir, thanks :)
[05:37] <abattoir> mossman: you can think what you want to :)
[05:37] <abattoir> nikkiana: np :)
[05:38] <abattoir> nikkiana: if you dont like it try the other stuff people recommended... but this is just a nifty python script... and is fast... atleast for me
[05:38] <rikioh> kana: http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1hb6.jpg  ---- picture of what my adept looks like when i try to install sun-java5-bin
[05:38] <kana> ok rikioh
[05:38] <abattoir> rikioh: that's a known problem
[05:38] <abattoir> rikioh: please use the command line to install it
[05:38] <mossman> It is not a matter of what I think.  IRC died years ago.. MSN took over..  People that would be here,  for the most part are geeks.  particuly if they are using Bitchx for IRC
[05:39] <rikioh> it tells me it cant cuz of a break also in command line
[05:39] <kana> abattoir: so it is specific to adept?
[05:39] <abattoir> rikioh: including stuff like flash-non-free(??) which requires you to input stuff
[05:39] <abattoir> kana: from what i've heard synaptic doesnt handle it better either...
[05:39] <abattoir> kana: its because, the applications expects you to enter information(for eg., you approval to a license agreement)
[05:40] <abattoir> oops, i think i jumped the gun....
[05:40] <abattoir> rikioh: anyways, dont install java through adept :)
[05:40] <rikioh> abattoir you tell me to install it from kommand
[05:41] <rikioh> well when i try
[05:42] <rikioh> http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1go0.jpg            ----- thats what i get from kommand
[05:42] <rikioh> i mean konsole
[05:42] <QMario> Can Kopete show current channels similar to XChat?
[05:42] <kana> rikioh: you can easier copy and paste to the pastebin
[05:43] <kana> rikioh: you need the sun-java5-plugin package
[05:43] <abattoir> rikioh: hmm, wonder why unixodbc is uninstallable... try 'sudo apt-get install unixodbc'
[05:43] <mahbub> hi
[05:43] <kana> rikioh: or the jre package
[05:44] <mossman> Why not just download from www.sun.com jre.xxx.bin  and install it that way?  it would be much simpler
[05:44] <rikioh> kevin@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install unixodbc
[05:44] <rikioh> Reading package lists... Done
[05:44] <rikioh> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:44] <rikioh> Package unixodbc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:44] <abattoir> rikioh: please dont paste here
[05:44] <rikioh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:44] <rikioh> is only available from another source
[05:44] <rikioh> E: Package unixodbc has no installation candidate
[05:44] <rikioh> kevin@ubuntu:~$
[05:44] <rikioh> whoa sorry
[05:44] <rikioh> wasnt expecting that
[05:44] <rikioh> :(
[05:44] <rikioh> i didnt realize it was gonna seperate it
[05:45] <kana> !pastebin > rikioh
[05:45] <abattoir> !info unixodbc
[05:45] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[05:45] <mossman> dmesg
[05:45] <abattoir> hmmm, its in main...
[05:46] <abattoir> rikioh: you have 'main' enabled right?
[05:46] <rikioh> i have universe multiverse
[05:47] <abattoir> rikioh: you need main and restricted as well
[05:47] <abattoir> rikioh: did you remove it when you added universe and multiverse?
[05:47] <kana> rikioh: main and restricted are enabled by default did you dissable them?
[05:47] <rikioh> i removed restricted
[05:48] <kana> take care all hope you solve your prob rikioh :)
[05:49] <abattoir> rikioh: ok, make sure you have 'main' under 'dapper'
[05:49] <abattoir> rikioh: else if you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file, i'll look at it
[05:49] <rikioh> under dapper i now have universe multiverse main restricted
[05:50] <rikioh> should it be like that or just main
[05:51] <abattoir> rikioh: that should be fine...
[05:51] <abattoir> rikioh: its 'dapper' and not 'dapper-backports' right?
[05:51] <rikioh> yuh just dapper
[05:51] <abattoir> and also 'deb' rather than 'deb-src'..?
[05:51] <administrator> hello channel :)
[05:52] <rikioh> yeh
[05:52] <rr72> hi
[05:52] <abattoir> rikioh: ok do a 'sudo apt-get update'... could you upload the pic of that run?
[05:52] <rikioh> its download sun java right now
[05:52] <rikioh> :)
[05:53] <rikioh> in konsole
[05:53] <rikioh> ok after that i need the mozilla package right
[05:53] <abattoir> rikioh: after you did that?
[05:53] <rikioh> that way i have web browser integration
[05:53] <administrator> list a simple ? re kde desktop  is it possible to make the menu bars transparent as well as the main bottom panel ?
[05:53] <rikioh> yup after i applied those changed it now lets me download
[05:53] <abattoir> administrator: sure
[05:54] <lib8264q> how is this possible i cant see any setting for ??????
[05:54] <abattoir> lib8264q: for the panel, right click on it->Configure Panel->Appearance
[05:54] <lib8264q> yep that makes the bottom transparent .. but the actual mauns
[05:54] <lib8264q> menus
[05:55] <abattoir> lib8264q: for the menu, Kcontrol->Appearance...->Styles->(second tab, dont remember name_
[05:55] <abattoir> )
[05:55] <abattoir> there'd be an option there to make your  menus translucent
[05:55] <abattoir> there is nothing that you cant make translucent :P
[05:55] <lib8264q> thats what i thought ...
[05:57] <lib8264q> hmmmmm  nope dosent seem to be working ...
[05:57] <abattoir> did you find the menu?
[05:57] <lib8264q> yep
[05:58] <lib8264q> under apperence
[05:58] <abattoir> lib8264q: Menu effect->Translucent
[05:58] <abattoir> lib8264q: then use the slider below to control translucency
[05:59] <abattoir> *Menu effect->Make translucent
[05:59] <rr72> !pastebin > lunitik
[06:00] <abattoir> lib8264q: found it?
[06:01] <lib8264q> yep i already have that set ... but the actual menus you navigate arnt changing ?????
[06:02] <lib8264q> should that not change as well ??????
[06:03] <abattoir> lib8264q: like the Kmenu?
[06:03] <abattoir> lib8264q: changing that makes it transparent for me
[06:03] <abattoir> *translucent
[06:03] <lib8264q> yes is that possible at all ???
[06:04] <abattoir> of course it is... that's what that option controls
[06:04] <abattoir> you could try restarting KDE if you want
[06:04] <lib8264q> nope iv already tried that ... still stays same
[06:05] <abattoir> hmmm, you dont even need to have composite enabled for that
[06:06] <abattoir> lib8264q: are you using a very old h/w by any chance?
[06:06] <lib8264q> define old ????? lol
[06:06] <lib8264q> 1ghz
[06:06] <lib8264q> lappy
[06:07] <lib8264q> p3
[06:07] <rr72> who had a small laptop?
[06:07] <abattoir> hmm, i've run it under a PIII 1Ghz too... works
[06:07] <abattoir> video card?
[06:07] <rr72> i have a pIII 850mhz
[06:07] <abattoir> not that i think it is very relevant...
[06:07] <lib8264q> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh crappy one ... intel830m
[06:07] <rr72> who had the monochrome laptop?
[06:08] <abattoir> lib8264q: did you try toggling the 'Menu Translucency type'?
[06:08] <hackman2007_> I'm unable to get online with Kubuntu, directly connected to a netgear router, is there any way to connect
[06:08] <lib8264q> yedp
[06:08] <abattoir> lib8264q: and none of the opacity levels work... right?
[06:09] <abattoir> lib8264q: it works for me... and it takes immediate effect too...
[06:10] <lib8264q> the launch bar as in where the windows task bar changes (totaly transParent) but the k menues htemselves are totally visible
[06:11] <hackman2007_> >	I'm unable to get online with Kubuntu, directly connected to a netgear router, any ideas?
[06:11] <rikioh> ok i got sun java installed now how should i integrate it into my firefox browser?
[06:16] <lib8264q> so any ideas what im doing wrong ????? or im possibly missing ?
[06:17] <bobbyyu> Can someone please tell me where to get diskmounter?
[06:19] <supernix> I know this might sound crazy but does anyone know how to operate a floppy drive and get it to read and write like it is supposed to and will it read a disk formatted under windows ?
[06:20] <lib8264q> use kfloppy ?????????
[06:22] <supernix> yes a floppy drive
[06:22] <lib8264q> in kubuntu dcan you not use kfloppy ???? to access
[06:22] <lib8264q> can*
[06:23] <supernix> I did try working with it but kept getting errors that it was already mounted and then when I tried opening it I kept getting errors about no record in mtab or somehting like that
[06:26] <soulrider> guys, how can i delete a directory? when i select it and press del ti sais its proted
[06:26] <soulrider> whast the CLI command ?
[06:27] <soulrider> adnt he directory si not empty
[06:27] <Hawkwind> soulrider: rm -f or rm -rf but use with extreme caution
[06:27] <Hawkwind> soulrider: If it's owned by root, then add sudo to it
[06:28] <soulrider> i got this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands but is there any other that will explain in detail allt he options ?
[06:28] <lwizardl> hi
[06:28] <apeman2020> i need assistance with a OneorZero install...
[06:28] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Read the man pages will give you all the options for a certain command
[06:29] <soulrider> ok
[06:29] <lwizardl> how do i map link to a ubuntu hd on another pc?
[06:29] <soulrider> also, what was the command to purge soemthign from my comp?
[06:29] <soulrider> dpkg -P ?
[06:30] <soulrider> !dpkg
[06:30] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:30] <bobbyyu> What's the link to the FAT32 version of diskmounter?
[06:30] <Hawkwind> soulrider: http://aruljohn.com/info/apt.php
[06:30] <soulrider> thanks Hawkwind
[06:30] <bobbyyu> I need to set permissions on my Fat32 drive
[06:31] <Hawkwind> soulrider: FYI....google.com and I searched for: dpkg commands.  First hit on google
[06:31] <supernix> What is Kubuntu going to do to get the recognition it deserves. I see loads of Ubuntu books on the horizon and not a single Ubuntu in site. Not only that there is a Linux mag that shipped out a DVD of Ubuntu but sad to say no Kubuntu
[06:32] <ftwiiner> i need help
[06:32] <bobbyyu> I need to set permissions on my FAT32 drives. What should I do?
[06:32] <ftwiiner> i get an error saying:
[06:32] <ftwiiner> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.
[06:33] <lwizardl> supernix, a ubuntu install is a base, you can add the kubuntu desktop very easy to a installed version of ubuntu
[06:34] <supernix> I have heard that and actually did install Gnome once on my Kubuntu box
[06:35] <supernix> But all the helps and how to info is written from the Gnome stand point
[06:36] <supernix> Like they tell you the Gnome program to use to do XZ&Z which would not matter if they also would include the Kubuntu equivilent and likewise directions for that app
[06:37] <ftwiiner> help please
[06:37] <lwizardl> supernix, true i know what you mean. like use gedit to edit sources.list but in kubuntu you use nano
[06:37] <supernix> Yes exactly
[06:39] <ftwiiner> :(
[06:42] <lwizardl> would it be a dns issue if a ubuntu box seems to lose the ip? for example i can go to the page and then 5 mins later i get timeouts but few min later i can get back on again
[06:44] <thompa> internets way too slow all of a sudden
[06:44] <bobbyyu> Can somebody tell me how to change permissions on my FAT32 files?
[06:45] <ftwiiner> hello
[06:45] <ftwiiner> i can't open adept
[06:46] <thompa> bobbyyu: try systemsettings first
[06:46] <thompa> system settings, disk and file system, log on admin
[06:48] <ftwiiner> how do i run it in the terminal
[06:48] <ftwiiner> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.
[06:48] <Hikaru79> Hello everyone :)
[06:48] <ftwiiner> i need help
[06:48] <Hikaru79> ftwiiner: that's often caused if you try to use apt-get while Synaptic or Adept is already open.
[06:49] <Hikaru79> Close Synaptic and/or Adept and then try apt-get command again.
[06:49] <ftwiiner> nothing is opened i restarted and it still won't open
[06:49] <Hikaru79> Hmm
[06:49] <Hikaru79> When do you get this error?
[06:49] <ftwiiner> i got it at startup and everytime i try to open the app
[06:49] <Hikaru79> Which app? Adept?
[06:50] <ftwiiner> yes
[06:50] <Hikaru79> Hmm, strange. Did you do anything to your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[06:50] <ftwiiner> i don't know :(
[06:50] <soulrider> what app can i use to check the integrity of a hard drive which was been formatted in NTFS format ?
[06:51] <ftwiiner> maybe i did by mistake i was trying to update everything
[06:51] <Hikaru79> Post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to rafb.net
[06:53] <ftwiiner> hikaru i did
[06:54] <supernix> someone told me about this NTFS project http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[06:58] <luisillo> hello all, got a progblem after installed ati drivers, they work but cant open now Display-system settings, getting an error
[06:58] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: You need to post the URL where you posted it
[06:58] <ftwiiner> oh..didn't know
[06:58] <ftwiiner> http://rafb.net/paste/results/EXyhTo18.html
[06:59] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: You need to uncomment some of the lines as it states.  All of your sources are commented out currently
[07:00] <luisillo> getting message when trying to access Display - system settings, message says The module Display could not be loaded. any one could help plz =)
[07:02] <soulrider> !kubuntu-es
[07:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about kubuntu-es - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:02] <soulrider> 7join #kubuntu-es
[07:02] <soulrider> crap.....
[07:04] <abattoir> !es
[07:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:04] <abattoir> soulrider: :)
[07:04] <ftwiiner> how do i uncommrny
[07:04] <ftwiiner> *uncomment
[07:04] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: Remove the # from in front of the line
[07:06] <ftwiiner> i don't understand :(
[07:06] <ftwiiner> i really know nothing of Linux
[07:07] <ftwiiner> i want to but its proving very dificult
[07:08] <ftwiiner> i have to delete both # or only one?
[07:08] <luisillo> anyone know if re-emerging kdebase fixes problem i got that cant access Display settings?
[07:11] <raphink> ftwiiner: any line that begins with a # is a commentary
[07:11] <ftwiiner> got that..so what do i do
[07:13] <raphink> well I have no idea what you want to do
[07:13] <ftwiiner> adept doesn't open
[07:13] <ftwiiner> i get an error
[07:15] <ftwiiner> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem
[07:15] <ftwiiner> i want to instal several programs
[07:16] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install <program>
[07:16] <Hawkwind> You can do it that way but first you need to uncomment your sources
[07:16] <ftwiiner> sudo?
[07:16] <Hawkwind> !sources
[07:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:16] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: Read that ^^^^^^^
[07:16] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: sudo is what Ubuntu uses instead of a root account
[07:17] <ftwiiner> which of the two?
[07:17] <ddu> hello
[07:17] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: Read them both
[07:17] <Hawkwind> ftwiiner: Being new to linux you need to read about the basics as it will help you learn greatly
[07:17] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[07:18] <ftwiiner> k
[07:18] <ddu> is there a wiki for kubuntu and irc/dcc chat?
[07:18] <ddu> i can't seem to find what i need...
[07:21] <ftwiiner> i'm reading but must i solve this on my own?
[07:22] <ddu> for some reason i cannot dcc chat.
[07:22] <ddu> my router is forwarding th correct port
[07:22] <ddu> so i don't know what is going on
[07:25] <kyle_> hey, when i try installing some things using apt-get install.. i get an error "please check your local settings: eng_ca eng_us                       LC_all = 'unset'      LANG = en-CA utf8........ then it says falling back on default locale setting and then LC_Cype LC_messages and lc_all are not there, what would this be cause from and how can i fix it? any ideas?
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[07:27] <ftwiiner> its 1:27 am here
[07:28] <kyle_> haha that's pretty early, it's 10:30 here
[07:29] <apeman2020> evening millhouse
[07:30] <ftwiiner> adept doesn't open
[07:30] <ftwiiner> hlep me anyone
[07:31] <obf213> and just when i thought i had it working perfectly. im not getting any sound out of my laptop speakers, but the headphones have sound.
[07:31] <obf213> i used to have sound....and the headphones work
[07:32] <ftwiiner> there aren't many helpful around.. :|
[07:33] <obf213> OK
[07:33] <obf213> it just sucks how linux has so many problems
[07:34] <kyle_> anyone know about locale settings and them not working/being found? or not?:P
[07:34] <obf213> u spend forever getting it t work your happy with it, then all of a sudden the speakers arent working but headphoens are
[07:34] <ftwiiner> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.
[07:38] <kyle_> hmm I think i got it to work
[07:44] <bobbyyu> How do I know which FD stores my files?
[07:50] <kyle_> for what program?
[07:53] <the-erm-2> is there an easy way to find out what version you're running ...
[07:54] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[07:55] <jack__> i have a amd64 cpu, but i will only run 32-bit app. k7 or 686, which kernel  is the best?
[07:55] <the-erm-2> thanks.
[07:58] <the-erm-2> is dapper 6.06 ?
[07:58] <cpk2> yes
[07:58] <the-erm-2> ok
[07:58] <the-erm-2> thanks.
[07:59] <Azzco> Hi I'm having some graphical problems here...
[08:00] <Azzco> I was able to run games and such rather good under ubuntu but when installed kubuntu everything runs really slow
[08:00] <Azzco> I've got a i915 chipset if that helps.
[08:00] <cpk2> ewww built in intel chip?
[08:01] <crimsun> yes, integrated.
[08:01] <Azzco> I don't know much about my hardware =s
[08:01] <Azzco> is it some common problem?
[08:01] <crimsun> I use an i915GM
[08:02] <crimsun> it's not very high-end (or medium-end) for hardware 3D accel
[08:02] <crimsun> in fact, it's craptacular.
[08:02] <Azzco> well it could run games rather good under windows...
[08:02] <cpk2> i remember before i got a new motherboard i had an integrated intel chip
[08:02] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[08:02] <cpk2> very sad days...
[08:03] <Azzco> yeah...I'm going to get a new computer as fast as possible as this one is my moms...
[08:03] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[08:03] <Azzco> maybe I should just wait with games till then.
[08:04] <cpk2> you using wine?
[08:04] <Azzco> nope
[08:04] <Azzco> I'm trying to avoid it as much as possible
[08:04] <cpk2> so you only running native games?
[08:05] <Azzco> well I intend to as I reinstalled kubuntu yesterday...(was trying to install gentoo with a very sad ending)
[08:05] <cpk2> rofl gentoo
[08:05] <Azzco> I haven't got any games to run yet except for some of my playstation games running epsxe
[08:05] <Azzco> but that was when I was under ubuntu...
[08:05] <cpk2> kubuntu is still ubuntu
[08:06] <Azzco> inly the kde/gnome that differs?
[08:06] <cpk2> there isnt a change in how the hardware is handled
[08:06] <Azzco> hmm...weird
[08:06] <Azzco> screensavers were alot smoother when installing from the ubuntu cd...
[08:07] <cpk2> you can install gnome if you want and switch back and forth to see if there is a difference
[08:07] <Azzco> =p
[08:08] <Azzco> when were on the subject, is it possible to run fluxbox or enlightenment 16 with kde? I'm talking about the RMB clicking on desktop and such
[08:09] <Azzco> I only get the normal "create new folder etc menu"
[08:09] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Azzco: Fluxbox or Enlightenment are window managers too, you would replace KDE with them
[08:09] <nalpha> how to transfer files between two computer in a local network??
[08:09] <Azzco> oh okay
[08:10] <Azzco> nalpha:  shared folders maybe?
[08:10] <cpk2> nalpha: samba?
[08:10] <cpk2> !samba
[08:10] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:10] <obf213> so any ideas as to why there is no sound coming out the spearkers but coming out the headphones?
[08:10] <GH> hi
[08:10] <cpk2> obf213: you using alsa?
[08:10] <obf213> it was on auto detect
[08:11] <obf213> i set it to alsa
[08:11] <obf213> but it didnt change it
[08:11] <GH> i just update kde.3.5.4
[08:11] <obf213> it used to work perfect :(
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> obf213: Speakers connected in the back, headphones in the front?
[08:11] <cpk2> obf213: run alsamixer and check all the volume settings
[08:11] <obf213> laptop?
[08:11] <GH> and system menu crash
[08:11] <obf213> MilhousePunkRock speakers are built in to my lappy
[08:11] <GH> only the theme part
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> GH: Look at the channel topic, it's broken in dapper
[08:11] <crimsun> obf213: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[08:12] <obf213> ok
[08:12] <GH> how to come back ?
[08:12] <GH> to kde3.5.3
[08:13] <bobbyyu> I just checked "File Systems" in the System Settings panel, but I found no help
[08:14] <bobbyyu> This problem existed when I wanted to change permissions for my FAT32 drives
[08:14] <bobbyyu> How ccan I do it?
[08:15] <obf213> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/112787
[08:15] <the-erm-2> bobbyyu: as I recall you need to change an entry in your /etc/fstab file, as well as chown user:user /mount/point
[08:15] <crimsun> obf213: when did it stop working?
[08:16] <obf213> when i restarted it
[08:16] <crimsun> obf213: after a kernel update?
[08:16] <enzo> !register > me
[08:16] <obf213> no
[08:16] <obf213> after nothing, all i did was turn it on to listen to music
[08:16] <obf213> i listend w/ and w/o headphones
[08:16] <obf213> now only hphones are working
[08:17] <the-erm-2> obf213: have you fiddled with things in alsamixer?
[08:17] <bobbyyu> What do I change (I'm looking at the file)] 
[08:17] <obf213> not yet
[08:17] <obf213> do ijust apt -get that
[08:17] <obf213> it used to work before i listend to music all the time so i dont udnerstand why it doesnt work this time...
[08:17] <the-erm-2> bobbyyu: that's the problem, I can't remember :/
[08:18] <Ademan> i know i'm kinda asking for it, but i'm a gnome user, but i keep hearing people rave about KDE, i'm downloading kubuntu right now so I can try it out, can anyone tell me why you use kde, and what i should check out when i try out the live CD that will hook me?
[08:18] <the-erm-2> It's something really simple at the end. having to do with user mode.
[08:18] <bobbyyu> Great
[08:19] <crimsun> obf213: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[08:20] <nalpha> friends how to transfer file between two computer in network using terminal??
[08:20] <lowercase> scp? netcat?
[08:21] <enzo> I can't recall if I've registered my nick. How can I tell if I registered it or some1 else did?
[08:21] <the-erm-2> bobbyyu: maybe man fstab, and man mount will help
[08:22] <obf213>  crimsun: 0: SigmaTel STAC9200
[08:23] <crimsun> oh great, the nasty one.
[08:23] <obf213> always worked before w and w/o headphones
[08:23] <crimsun> so you haven't updated kernels at all?
[08:24] <obf213> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 1997 MHz (1997 bogomips), , RAM: 703/1001MB, 120 proc's, 1.14h up
[08:24] <obf213> no
[08:24] <obf213> thats the same kernel ive had for a while
[08:25] <crimsun> obf213: does it persist across a cold boot (power down, wait 2 minutes, power back up)?
[08:25] <crimsun> phone call.
[08:25] <obf213> i havent tried yet.
[08:26] <QMario> How can I make the Desktop Switcher to act like GNOME's Workspace Switcher?
[08:27] <Ace2005> QMario: so what does it act like?
[08:28] <Ace2005> QMario: The one on the pannel or Alt+Tab?
[08:28] <QMario> When you switch desktops, the applications from the old desktop on the taskbar are not on the taskbar of the new desktop.
[08:28] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[08:28] <QMario> Ace2005, no.
[08:29] <Ace2005> QMario: Right click on the panel > Configure Panel > Taskbar
[08:30] <Hawkwind> Skeez187: You ever say anything else ?
[08:30] <Ace2005> QMario: then untick show desktops from all desktops
[08:30] <obf213> crimsun: i tried to restart the sound system and it seems to be perpetually restarting it
[08:30] <obf213> kkl
[08:30] <QMario> Ace2005, thank you!!! :)
[08:31] <obf213> crimsun: i will try the restart i guess
[08:31] <QMario> Thank God!!! :) Yay!!! :)
[08:31] <QMario> Wheee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:31] <QMario> s/1/!/
[08:33] <QMario> Does KDE use more memory than GNOME?
[08:35] <bobbyyu> Do you know where I can find a modified version of the diskmounter script?
[08:35] <obf213> crimusn: it works now i restarted thanks for your time
[08:37] <Ace2005> obf213: well you shouldn't have to, just restart the service or restart the x-server
[08:37] <obf213> yeah i did that
[08:38] <obf213> anyways just wondeer why the commands i wrote in my .bashrc don't work until i open konsole
[08:38] <obf213> if i merely just open konsole my media buttons work
[08:38] <obf213> its weird
[08:39] <cpk2> obf213: what kind of laptop? the wiki has a list of laptops and says what works/what doesnt
[08:40] <Ace2005> IS THIS BAD? ace@Linux:~$ cd /home/ace/   ---   chdir: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
[08:40] <obf213> cpk2: dell e1405
[08:40] <Ace2005> why can't i cd to my home dir?
[08:40] <obf213> i know the buttons work
[08:40] <obf213> they work all the time
[08:40] <cpk2> !laptop
[08:40] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[08:40] <obf213> just not at boot even though its written in my .bashrc
[08:41] <obf213> but if i just open the console and not type anything they all of a sudden start working
[08:41] <joch> Ace2005: have you changed the permissions on /home ?
[08:41] <obf213> its all good though open konsole is no big deal cpk2
[08:41] <Ace2005> joch: i restarted konsole and the error seems to have gone
[08:41] <cpk2> obf213: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspironE1405
[08:44] <obf213> thanks cpk2, but i've already made all that untested stuff work
[08:45] <uniq> Ace2005: no, that error message is not bad. It just means that you used 'cd' to go into a directory, and then you probably deleted or moved it in the filemanager.. and when you go back to konsole it is 'cd'ed into a directory that does not exits. you can simply execute 'cd' to go back to your home directory and the shell will only notify you once.
[08:46] <uniq> Hawkwind: just do another dist-upgrade before removing the preferences file.
[08:47] <cpk2> if you do dist-upgrade does it autmatically configure grub to use the new kernel?
[08:47] <Ace2005> uniq: Well it was a new konsole tab so it should have started at home shouldn't it? so how come the error?
[08:47] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[08:47] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[08:47] <obf213> !mp3 >nalpha
[08:49] <TehKewl1> I need to get a mono app that uses glade to run
[08:49] <TehKewl1> how do I do that without breaking packages
[08:51] <uniq> Ace2005: that depends. you can save paths in the sessions in konsole.
[08:51] <uniq> have to go to work. see you later kubuntuers.
[08:51] <TehKewl1> cya
[08:52] <Ace2005> bye
[08:53] <han_> Anybody familiar with Kino?
[08:53] <TehKewl1> ummm
[08:53] <TehKewl1> a bit
[08:53] <TehKewl1> I prefer avid if I wanna do some serious video editing but..... it's windows and mac only
[08:54] <han_> how to install the raw 1394 module/ I am in my first hour with kubuntu
[08:54] <TehKewl1> ooh thats a bit out of my league
[08:54] <TehKewl1> I dunno
[08:54] <han_> :-(
[09:00] <obf213> !network
[09:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:00] <obf213> anyone know wht to do to view comps in network
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Any progress on KDE 3.5.4 so far?
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> !e17 > MilhousePunkRock
[09:02] <obf213> MilhousePunkRock what does nalpha need to do to see computers in her network
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> obf213: I know nothing about networking.
[09:03] <obf213> k
[09:05] <cpk2> you see comps in a network using samba
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> Good Morning 2 All.
[09:12] <sF|Xemanth> "3.5.4 broken in dapper" :~/
[09:14] <sF|Xemanth> how its broken ?
[09:15] <kosh> nobody told me
[09:16] <rr72> loll breazy works
[09:16] <rikioh> how do i set firefox as my default browser in kubuntu
[09:17] <rikioh> that way when i click links it uses firefox
[09:18] <zan> how can i change the refresh rate from 75Hz to 60Hz on a TFT?
[09:19] <kosh> rikioh: you will probably regret it later but open kcontrol -> kde components -> default applications -> web browser and set it to firefox
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: System settings --> Personal / KDE components...
[09:19] <rikioh> is there a reason i will regret it.. cuz if i will i wont do it
[09:19] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: ... Default applications --> Web browser
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Konqueror is better integrated into KDE, but besides that, it's only a matter of your personal taste...
[09:20] <kosh> because it means that if you ever want to use konqueror for anything it pretty much won't work since links will go to firefox when clicked
[09:20] <essal> sF|Xemanth: http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README
[09:20] <kosh> it is better to just open firefox and use that and leave the default alone if you realy want to use firefox
[09:21] <kosh> opera and konqueror are both far lighter on resources then firefox is also but they all have little quirks
[09:21] <kosh> pretty much equally compatible though
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> kosh: For me Konqueror was awfully slow
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> kosh: And Fx didn't run as fast as it did on Winblows, so I chose Opera
[09:22] <kosh> MilhousePunkRock: that is pretty strange, they all have nearly the same rendering speed and startup speed
[09:22] <kosh> however firefox has a larger memor footprint by a lot
[09:23] <nalpha> anyone know how to monitor the queue of printer in my network???
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> kosh: I thought it might be related to IPv6, but disabling that didn't help Konqi being faster
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Is anyone using e17?
[09:23] <acknor> ola
[09:24] <kosh> I don't have ipv6 support on my kernel right now
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> kosh: So you "rolled your own"?
[09:25] <sF|Xemanth> how can i install web printer in kde? i have shared printer in winblows
[09:25] <rikioh> adept doesnt wanna open :( ..... it asks me for the password i enter it then it does nothing
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: That happens to me sometimes too, restarting KDE might help
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn, Hawkwind, Healot, Hobbsee... Someone beginning with H is running e17, I've been told?!?!
[09:29] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: defintely not me
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Ok, Hobbsee
[09:30] <kosh> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, lots of stuff on my system is customized
[09:30] <kosh> MilhousePunkRock: I have a mix of kubuntu dapper, sid and some custom things
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> kosh: Nice... I will probably compile my own kernel too some day, but not yet, I am still a little unsure if I can do that...
[09:33] <kosh> heh I learned how to do it when it was pretty much the only choice
[09:33] <kosh> I mostly do it now since I want newer stuff the kubuntu packages
[09:33] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[09:34] <buz> mhh what's broken about 3.5.4 in dapper? seems to work for me anyhow
[09:34] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: do you have java integrated into your web browser?
[09:34] <essal> buz: http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README
[09:34] <zan> where's the KDE Theme in KDE 3.5.2 Kubuntu 6.06?
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Yes
[09:35] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: with konqueror or?
[09:35] <zan> !theme
[09:35] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:35] <zan> !kdetheme
[09:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdetheme - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:36] <zan> where's the KDE Theme in KDE 3.5.2 Kubuntu 6.06?
[09:36] <buz> i dont like kubuntu-default-settings anyway *EG*
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Works for all browsers
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> zen: kcontrol
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:36] <zan> aha
[09:36] <buz> doesnt seem to me any bad so far
[09:36] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: ok well i finally got it to install sun-java5-bin tonight but its not browser integrated
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> buz: Who does?
[09:36] <zan> 10x a lot... i tried k-control :))
[09:37] <buz> MilhousePunkRock: the bug in kde 3.5.4
[09:37] <nalpha> hwo to start samba after install it??
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> buz: That was about the default settings... Linux is pretty powerful for customization, freedom of choice
[09:38] <buz> ah ok
[09:38] <buz> thats why i use it ;)
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: That was the first thing I did after installing, I can't recall how I did it though
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Did you enable Java in the Browser settings?
[09:40] <zan> how do i set a login theme? where should i go?
[09:40] <__osh__> MilhousePunkRock: kde3.5.4 is availible as debs?
[09:40] <emonkey-p> yes it is
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> zan: You need to install kdmtheme
[09:40] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: when i try to link the browser to the java executable what should the file extension be? for the java executable
[09:41] <emonkey-p> but there are problems with settings
[09:41] <zan> 10x :D
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: I really don't know, sorry
[09:41] <__osh__> emonkey: what problems?
[09:41] <fritsch> __osh__: please just wait some hours
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> zan: Once you installed it, it will be located in System Settings, you point kdmtheme to the archive you downloaded
[09:42] <fritsch> __osh__: this is already fixed, but packages need to be uploaded
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it only a matter of hours, fritsch? Ah, nice...
[09:42] <fritsch> MilhousePunkRock: have got the working packages yesterday, working as expected
[09:43] <buz> MilhousePunkRock: because it doesnt live in repositories
[09:43] <zan> MilhousePunkRock: thanks a lot! :D
[09:43] <fritsch> MilhousePunkRock: but there are other dependency problems
[09:43] <__osh__> fritsch: will do. I'm just curious. I usually don't install stuff with known bugs in them. if I can help it.
[09:43] <buz> 3.5.4 actually has one noticeable bug less: basket integration into kontact now doesn't crash ;)
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> zan: You're welcome... Took me quite a while to figure out the archive is the actual theme file...
[09:43] <__osh__> MilhousePunkRock: You probably need to add a new repository.
[09:43] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[09:44] <fritsch> just wait until the topic changes
[09:44] <buz> MilhousePunkRock: read http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README first
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> fritsch: I thought it was in the repos already, since so many people updated already...
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> buz: Yeah, I saw that already...
[09:44] <fritsch> buz: this is fixed, but as i said, new packages have to be uploaded
[09:44] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[09:44] <buz> fritsch: ah
[09:44] <buz> very well then
[09:45] <fritsch> i think it really won`t last too long
[09:45] <fritsch> topic has already changed in kde-devel :-)
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> I know KDE has many changes "under the hood", but is there anything new I will actually notice?
[09:46] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Skeez187: Is there anything else you can say?
[09:46] <buz> MilhousePunkRock: seems like the session stuff in kate is back
[09:46] <fritsch> MilhousePunkRock: mmmh, the changelog looks very impressive
[09:47] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: i figured it out it was usr/lib/jvm/sun-java/bin/java
[09:47] <fritsch> MilhousePunkRock: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_3to3_5_4.php
[09:48] <morrow> good morning
[09:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Skeez187: Your name is kinda offensive, you might wanna change it to keep this channel family friendly...
[09:50] <__osh__> Is there something similar to workrave for KDE? Something that doesn't require 45MB extra to install?
[09:51] <__osh__> MilhousePunkRock: skeez is offensive? I must be out of touch with english slang. What does it mean?
[09:51] <rikioh> same and i live in usa
[09:51] <TehKewl1> xfce?
[09:51] <TehKewl1> oh wait workrave
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> __osh__ rikioh: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skeez
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> The normal dictionary didn't even find it...
[09:52] <zan> MilhousePunkRock: do i have to restart kde?
[09:52] <rikioh> wow i didnt know that
[09:52] <davin> Hi, im trying to install my graphics drivers but I get an error, it is quite big so ill put it on pastecode.com
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> zan: Yes... Since you changed the login, you won't notice a difference within KDE
[09:52] <zan> MilhousePunkRock: i don't see the kdmtheme in system settings :(
[09:53] <__osh__> MilhousePunkRock: thanks
[09:53] <zan> MilhousePunkRock: that's why i was asking :(
[09:53] <davin> My problem: http://www.pastecode.com/2482
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> zan: It should be there after a restart, sorry, got you wrong...
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh, __osh__ Not #5 and #8...
[09:53] <eeos> hi there. I have difficulties with intel hda audio card. kubuntu 606 does not identify the intergrated microphone. Mandriva 2006 does, so it is not a linux problem.
[09:53] <eeos> any clue?
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh, __osh__ Note* #5 and #8...
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> zan: YW
[09:54] <davin> It looks like I need the 'libc development package'
[09:54] <rikioh> ah i was actually thinking it was probably 8. the famouse lil john word
[09:54] <__osh__> MilhousePunkRock: right. I got the general idea.
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Probably 9 is what he wants... Combined with 187, the police radio code for murder IIRC
[09:56] <rikioh> does ktorrent do a pretty decent job ?
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: I had 2b, that wasn't exactly stable...
[09:57] <davin> so what is this libc development package
[09:57] <davin> isnt it a c compiler?
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> lol there was the guy with the nice part message again
[09:57] <gplfighter> hi
[09:57] <rikioh> milhouse i actually know that guy :(
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I always notice him when he leaves, Hobbsee suggested to ask him to change his part message...
[09:58] <gplfighter> i've updated to kde 3.5.4, but now my icons on my desktop are very big. how can is set the size?
[09:58] <rikioh> ill ask him cuz he participates on another server i know of
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Nice...
[09:59] <rikioh> milhouse do you have a recommended torrent program then
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> gplfighter: That could be because 3.5.4 is somewhat broken in dapper
[09:59] <rikioh> or should i jsut give them all a whirl :)
[09:59] <gplfighter> MilhousePunkRock: can i change the size?
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Stay away from BitComet, that's for sure... Azureus is powerful, but really bloated (plus running on java)
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: If you have Wine, you could try Torrent, it's supposed to run perfectly there
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Torrent is by far my favorite BT client
[10:01] <rikioh> ill research wine cuz im not ever sure what it is ( your dealing with a first timer ) :)
[10:01] <TheGateKeeper> gplfighter: here is your 'get out of jail free card' for when it all ends in tears :-) http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[10:01] <rikioh> !wine
[10:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> KTorrent isnt that bad after all
[10:01] <gplfighter> ok, but there is only 1 thing... that **** icons
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: If you want a bleeding edge version of Wine, there is a nice script to compile it
[10:02] <TheGateKeeper> sorry don't know how to fix your icons
[10:02] <gplfighter> ok, thaanks
[10:02] <Hobbsee> what about the icons?
[10:03] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:03] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: not registered but i will do it right now
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Than I could send you the WineCVS script
[10:03] <tsume> broken in dapper? :
[10:03] <rikioh> milhousepunkrock: ok im registered send away
[10:04] <TheGateKeeper> I would have thought the size of the icons are related to the resolution, and although 3.5.4 may have fixed bugs, seems like they also created some to make it unusable
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Accept
[10:05] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock: i second that with utorrent, it's working fine under wine
[10:05] <Kabal> 3.5.4 broken in dapper.. Where can I find more info about this?
[10:05] <TheGateKeeper> tsume: KDE 3.5.4
[10:05] <tsume> TheGateKeeper: what is included on the shipit cds?
[10:05] <nalpha> simple question can we connect to mirc network with this Konversation??
[10:06] <TheGateKeeper> tsume: nope 3.5.3 is the current default
[10:06] <rr73> nalpha~ sh u woke me up
[10:06] <rr73> ;) off to bed for me
[10:06] <rr73> peace out all
[10:06] <Riddell> nalpha: yes (they are both IRC programmes)
[10:06] <tsume> TheGateKeeper: alright :) then I won't get burned by ordering these kubuntu cds :)
[10:06] <Riddell> Kabal: with any luck it'll be fixed later today
[10:06] <kraut> moin
[10:06] <Kabal> ah oke thanx Riddell :) I will wait :)
[10:07] <TheGateKeeper> tsume: no you should always get something that is stable, there will probable be updates to do after you install
[10:08] <tsume> TheGateKeeper: just making sure :)
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Although it's slightly offtopic, but why do "wiki style" webpages look weird in my Opery?
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Opera that is, of course
[10:10] <zan> for what do the % parameters stand for: krusader %i %m -caption "%c" ?
[10:10] <jorik> MilhousePunkRock, did you recently upgrade your opera ?
[10:10] <eeos> I need to recompile kernel on a amd 64 computer where there are ia32 libraries. Does that change anything?
[10:11] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock: Firefox is the king :-) www.worldfirefoxday.com/en/
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> jorik: I installed it two days ago, deb from opera.no
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: No, it's not... :-P
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> I can define "weird" a little more: Fonts are really small, everything is somewhat pressed together..
[10:15] <nalpha> i put some folder and file to garbage bin, the question is where is the garbage bin???
[10:15] <nalpha> i put some folder and file to garbage bin, the question is where is the garbage bin??? in ubuntu
[10:15] <rikioh> mine is in the bottom right of my screen :)
[10:15] <TheGateKeeper> nalpha: for me bottom right hand corner
[10:15] <zan> does anyone know for what do the % parameters stand for in the following command: krusader %i %m -caption "%c" ?
[10:16] <eeos> I need to recompile kernel on amd 64 computer where there are ia32 libraries. Does that change anything?
[10:17] <dein> kde 3.5.4 doesnt work in kubuntu?
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> dein: correct: www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[10:19] <dein> i havent upgraded yet, was actually looking for how to
[10:19] <dein> but ill wait now i guess :)
[10:19] <dein> btw, does kde 3.5.4 perform better on most distros so far?
[10:20] <cpk2> how do you know what kde version you ahve?
[10:20] <cpk2> have*
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> cpk2: Help --> About KDE in most applications, e.g. here in Konversation
[10:20] <dein> kde 3.5.3 is default for dapper
[10:20] <cpk2> using gaim =X
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> jorik: Take a look at this: http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto5rw5.png
[10:21] <dein> er nvm kde 3.5.2 is
[10:21] <dein> if you havent upgraded your kde, its probably safe to say you're running 3.5.2
[10:21] <cpk2> yup i have .3
[10:22] <cpk2> well wasnt sure if it was in the repos when you do upgrade
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> dein: I have 3.5.3
[10:22] <dein> guess im the only one with .2 then 0.o
[10:22] <cpk2> err i meant .2
[10:22] <cpk2> typo heh
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper> correction I am also on 3.5.2
[10:23] <dein> lol
[10:24] <dein> anyone know what repositories to add for 3.5.3, and if it's stable in kubuntu now?
[10:24] <dein> when it first came out i remember it had some bugs
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> .3 is stable, and shouldn't that be in the official repos?
[10:25] <dein> it isnt, because it hasnt upgraded my system yet
[10:25] <eeos> dein: just add  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[10:25] <eeos> dein: did you get it?
[10:25] <dein> k
[10:25] <eeos> I need to recompile kernel on a amd 64 computer where there are ia32 libraries. Does that change anything?
[10:26] <mauri> nalpha: did you manage to find it?
[10:26] <dein> i wouldnt know, i still dont use 64 even though i have a comp with a 64 processor
[10:26] <dein> just not supported enough yet
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir
[10:27] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hello :)
[10:27] <eeos> dein: it was a question to everybody?
[10:29] <rikioh> abattoir i got java working thanks to milhouses idea :)
[10:29] <rikioh> i dunno why i never thought of it
[10:29] <rikioh> but instead of trying to find a plugin all i had to do was open my browser go to setup and change the java link to sunjava/bin/java
[10:35] <cpk2> my wired box is having connectivity problems but my wireless one if fine...
[10:35] <cpk2> is*
[10:36] <cpk2> interesting
[10:36] <kyle_> is there any way to seach an ip adress of the person u are talking to on amsn?
[10:36] <cpk2> nalpha: samba is in the main repo i think
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !info samba
[10:36] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[10:37] <cpk2> btw nalpha i just now got your pm, better to just ask in the channel
[10:37] <kyle_> is there or not? neone know?
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> kyle_: Most likely not...
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> kyle_: Although I remember there were "hacking tools" do to that for ICQ...
[10:38] <eeos> what repository to download the new Edgy kernel? I do not seem to find it.
[10:38] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[10:38] <kyle_> hmmm, ok I'll just report this guy to msn then, they should have a log of it correct? someone hacked into my riends msn and is on it right now, deleted all her contacts, changed her password and is sayin some not so nice things lol
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> kyle_: That wasn't hacking, that was only a weak password, or a trojan...
[10:41] <kyle_> Milhousepunkrock: yaya whatever lol, i remember the exploits of icq too, it's what made me use it and stop using it at the same time lol, and ya u r right, but it still shouldn't be done
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> kyle_: The beautiful world of Windows...
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> kyle_: You could try to report it, but I wonder how much M$ actually cares about that...
[10:43] <cpk2> i would be flattered if someone actually cared enough to try to do something malicious to me
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> cpk2: I don't think those script kiddies care about _who_ they do it to...
[10:44] <kyle_> Milhousepunkrock: haha ya, right :P and ya it's not even mine so i don't really care enough to anywayz... althought i did get reported to telus one time someone tracked my ip on their computer when it shouldn't have been.... damn windows and having the ip search funtion lol
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[10:44] <dein> ok i just got done upgrading to kde 3.5.3 and ive gotta say, its a major boost in speed
[10:45] <cotroler> how to upgrade to kde 3.5.3  dien?
[10:45] <dein> one sec
[10:46] <dein> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[10:46] <dein> add that to your repos
[10:47] <cpk2> kde only gives 30 results on the wiki
[10:47] <dein> currently at least two packages are down
[10:48] <_gplfighter_> i'm  donwgrading noww to 3.5.3
[10:48] <ricardo> hi everybody...i get this msg with adept updater:
[10:48] <dein> kubuntu-docs and libnautilus-extension both return 404 errors
[10:48] <ricardo> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:48] <ricardo> any ideas???
[10:49] <dein> ya, those two packages are down
[10:49] <dein> thats why
[10:49] <cotroler> how do you check which kde version you have???????
[10:49] <dein> go into any kde app, click help, and about kde
[10:50] <dein> if you havent knowingly upgraded kde, then you have kde 3.5.2
[10:52] <cotroler> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[10:52] <cotroler> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:53] <pradeepto> !java
[10:53] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:53] <cotroler> i ran apt-get update nothong happened
[10:53] <DevGet> Hi all! I got an error when I switched from ubuntu to kubuntu about that dpkg can't remove  scim-gtk2-immodule because
[10:53] <DevGet> /usr/sbin/update-gtk-immodules: line 1: a: command not found
[10:53] <DevGet> dpkg: error processing scim-gtk2-immodule (--remove):
[10:53] <DevGet> what to do?
[10:54] <nalpha> what's the address of dal.net "mirc"???
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> try using apitude from the cli, or synaptic to see if there any broken packages and try removing (or reinstalling) if there are
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> DevGet: ^^^^
[11:00] <ricardo> i have just added these repos in my sources:
[11:00] <ricardo> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main restricted
[11:00] <ricardo> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main restricted
[11:00] <ricardo> now i get 90 upgrades!! is that good or not so? should i proceed?
[11:02] <noiesmo> ricardo, thats ok might be a lot of kde updates
[11:03] <ricardo> noiesmo: ok...so i have a question...whats the difference between puttin just main or main restricted ?
[11:03] <noiesmo> !restricted
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <DevGet> TheGateKeeper: seems to work, thx
[11:04] <ricardo> noiesmo: so there is no sense adding restricted to kde repos since they are all free?
[11:04] <noiesmo> ricardo, restricted gives you access to apps and packages ubuntu can not ship with ubuntu due to licence issues generally
[11:05] <noiesmo> ricardo, probably not for kde but cant hurt
[11:05] <ricardo> noiesmo: ok...thanks!
[11:05] <noiesmo> ricardo, np :)
[11:05] <TheGateKeeper> DevGet: please to hear it. yw :-)
[11:09] <cpk2> dein: do you actually need to get the key to use that repo?
[11:09] <dein> not that ive seen
[11:10] <dein> i used adept to upgrade tho
[11:10] <cpk2> hmm apt-get just told me i need the key
[11:10] <dein> try dpkg?
[11:11] <cpk2> to update i need the key, its ok they give it to you at the kubuntu forum
[11:12] <rikioh> ok heres a pretty good question i installed kubuntu twice on this hdd... so i have 2 copies of kubuntu on one 250 gig hdd... is there a way for me to format that partition and add it to my original kubuntu partition?
[11:12] <rikioh> add the extra gigs of space
[11:13] <nick__> hello i just dowloaded boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh but how do i install it now?
[11:14] <cpk2> rofl dein after adding that one repo i need 137 packages to upgrade
[11:14] <MilhousePunkRock> nick__: type "sude sh boinc.....sh" on a shell
[11:14] <MilhousePunkRock> nick__: replace the ..... with the rest of the name though
[11:14] <rikioh> sudo :)
[11:14] <kyle_> hey, i updated my kde to 3.5.3 or w/e and it won't update the kdelibs-data... does anyone know why this might be?
[11:14] <nick__> what's a shell? srr it's my second day with kubuntu
[11:14] <MilhousePunkRock> oh, yeah, sudO it is, thx rikioh
[11:14] <MilhousePunkRock> a console?
[11:15] <MilhousePunkRock> or terminal?
[11:15] <cpk2> kyle_: i am updating right now too, i'll see if i get the same problem
[11:15] <MilhousePunkRock> KMenu --> System --> Console
[11:15] <nick__> and there i typ that sue thing
[11:15] <nick__> sude
[11:16] <kyle_> cpk2: haha alright :P how long left?
[11:16] <noiesmo> rikioh, you could use qtparted or add the extra partition to /etc/fstab and then access the extra space that way
[11:16] <cpk2> 14 minutes =\
[11:16] <cpk2> its only going at about 135 kB/s
[11:17] <kyle_> slow mine went at like 350
[11:17] <rikioh> ok ty noiesmo i will look into that
[11:17] <kyle_> which still isn't that fast, but faster then urs :P
[11:17] <cpk2> my wireless card might be bottlenecking it
[11:17] <nick__> bash: sude: command not found
[11:17] <rikioh> nick its sudo
[11:17] <rikioh> not sude
[11:17] <rikioh> :)
[11:17] <nick__> oeps srr
[11:17] <kyle_> ya my wireless card paused up my computer when i tried to get it to work so i said screw it and ran a wire lol
[11:17] <rikioh> im new too man no worries ;)
[11:17] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> !ops
[11:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[11:18] <cpk2> got my desktop wired and only one outlet in the wall
[11:18] <imbrandon> yes?
[11:18] <nick__> sh: boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh: Onbekend bestand of map
[11:18] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: getting annoyed with that Skeez187 guy?
[11:18] <imbrandon> MilhousePunkRock: ?
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> There is something fishy about Skeez187, all he says is *skeez* every once in a while, besides that his name is offensive
[11:19] <gplfighter> nick__: mss beter op #ubuntu-nl
[11:19] <MilhousePunkRock> exactly cpk2
[11:19] <nick__> kheb dara al dood gezocht!!
[11:19] <imbrandon> Skeez187: is there a problem ?
[11:19] <nick__> moet ik die gedownl. file ergens specifiek zetten?
[11:20] <cpk2> he was almost spamming it earlier...
[11:20] <gplfighter> nick__: heb je een jabber, msn of iets dergelijks?
[11:20] <Lynoure> !nl
[11:20] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> nick__: You need to either switch to the path where the shell script is, or define the path when you execute it... And keept it English her
[11:20] <imbrandon> hrm he seems to have hushed, if it becomes a problem !ops again
[11:20] <Lynoure> Even thoguh I don't really mind it myself, personally (as I'm trying to study Dutch)
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> roger that, imbrandon... Thanks
[11:21] <rikioh> i love how fast the op system thingy is here that seems very nice and secure :)
[11:22] <kyle_> I'm suppose to work in 4 hours... gggrrrrr
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Kinda smart that uboto mentiones the ops names..
[11:22] <rikioh> yes whoever made the script or whatever it is wrote it well it seems
[11:23] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: It's a bot
[11:23] <rikioh> thats what i meant :)
[11:24] <rikioh> brb mountain dew refill :_
[11:25] <rikioh> hahah everytime i go to look at my torrent it has stalled and right as im about to stop and restart the torrent to get it going again it starts downloading :)
[11:25] <rikioh> its done that 4 times in a row
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> rikioh: Make sure you optimize your settings, there is a guide for it on utorrent.com
[11:27] <rikioh> MilhousePunkRock: ok i will thank you
[11:28] <TheHighChild> anyone have a Motorola Razr?
[11:30] <dein> me
[11:30] <rikioh> TheHighChild: i have a slvr pretty much the same thing
[11:31] <rikioh> same phone just doesnt flip
[11:31] <dein> which means its ghetto
[11:31] <dein> lol
[11:31] <rikioh> no
[11:31] <dein> j/k  '.'
[11:32] <rikioh> its an mp3 player too with itunes it was like 340 usd -_-
[11:32] <rikioh> i kinda regret getting it though for the price
[11:32] <dein> i got mine for 70$
[11:33] <dein> special corporate discount
[11:33] <dein> would've been free, but my credit wasn't good enough -.-
[11:35] <jozzeph> hello
[11:36] <serenity> hi
[11:36] <serenity> does anyone know where to get this http://www.raphink.info/talks/2006/05-LinuxTag/html/slide_1.html Design?
[11:36] <jozzeph> i cannot install any plugins for ktorrent
[11:36] <cpk2> dein: the kde upgrade had to change grub file?
[11:36] <jozzeph> error message: signal \: 6 (SIGABRT)
[11:37] <jozzeph> cannot find it until now
[11:37] <jozzeph> upgrades are functioning normally
[11:37] <dein> ??? dunno
[11:38] <dein> i havent done a hard reboot yet, just restarted the xserver
[11:38] <bioticpro> anyone here run xmame?
[11:38] <cpk2> i just happened to check the status right when it was playing with my grub
[11:38] <dein> me
[11:38] <RawSewage> it was a big update today
[11:39] <dein> what was?
[11:39] <RawSewage> lots of things
[11:39] <RawSewage> mainly GNOME though
[11:39] <cpk2> restarting x is so annoying
[11:39] <cpk2> i'm too lazy to restart it
[11:40] <dein> err, ctrl +alt backspace is all you need to do
[11:40] <cpk2> yeah but then i gotta start it back up
[11:40] <dein> and its alot faster than an actual reboot
[11:40] <cpk2> plus sometimes my screen loses output
[11:40] <dein> ?.?
[11:40] <jozzeph> should i send an error rapport to the author?
[11:40] <ndazza> are there any mirrors of security.ubuntu.com?
[11:40] <cpk2> <--- very lazy
[11:41] <dein> you shouldnt need to start kde >.>
[11:41] <dein> mine restarts automatically
[11:41] <jozzeph> internal inconsequence it sais
[11:41] <cpk2> and if my screen loses output then i do have to do an actual reboot
[11:41] <ricardo> hi everybody...huge problem here!
[11:41] <dein> btw, a linux image upgrade is up
[11:42] <ndazza> i wonder if they'll have linux-restricted-modules for this one
[11:42] <dein> is it gonna break my settings for nvidia? i hope not
[11:42] <jozzeph> does anyone workt with ktorrent?
[11:42] <dein> i dont work on it, but i use it
[11:42] <jozzeph> ok
[11:42] <jozzeph> have u got the plugins then?
[11:43] <ricardo> i hava just upgraded to kde3.5.4 and i have no kmenu whatsoever...no different desktops...
[11:43] <jozzeph> through wine?
[11:43] <ricardo> nothing...
[11:43] <hsn_> how can i switch kubuntu from english to czech?
[11:43] <dein> the ones that come with 2.0 beta ya
[11:43] <dein> 3.5.4 is broken
[11:43] <dein> downgrade when possible
[11:43] <TheHighChild> rikioh: Are you able to mount it under linux?
[11:43] <jozzeph> - hsn i think when starting rhe install pushing F2
[11:43] <ndazza> hsn_: see the link in the topic about known problems
[11:43] <MilhousePunkRock> !wine > jozzeph
[11:43] <ricardo> dein: how do i do that?
[11:44] <dein> installing a localization package should do it
[11:44] <ricardo> there also a new kernel installed...
[11:44] <Skeez187> *skeez*
[11:44] <TheHighChild> hsn kmenu > system settings > regional & accessibility > country/regio
[11:44] <MilhousePunkRock> !ops
[11:44] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[11:44] <dein> Ricardo: not sure, the others have a good link tho
[11:44] <rikioh> thehighchild: mount what under linux?
[11:44] <TheHighChild> rikioh: Your slvr
[11:44] <TheHighChild> I want to be able to mount it and remove all the preloaded crap
[11:45] <rikioh> thehighchild: you mean like access it with bluetooth? or?
[11:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Good Job, Riddel!
[11:45] <cpk2> hooray!
[11:45] <cpk2> heh
[11:45] <cpk2> sorry but that guy was annoying
[11:46] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't think it even was a guy...
[11:46] <cpk2> well that bot* was annoying
[11:46] <TheHighChild> rikioh: I don't have bluetooth. I want to use the USB cable
[11:46] <rikioh> thehighchild: let me try real fast
[11:46] <MilhousePunkRock> CU everyone
[11:46] <dein> cya
[11:47] <bepetemish> Hello all.. i got some problems with my linux
[11:48] <cpk2> bepetemish: i'm sure we all do at one point or another
[11:49] <bepetemish> i got an dual boot on my computer  windows xp/Kubuntu  so i want to check my windows folders in linux but how? i can check my linux folders in windows already
[11:49] <ndazza> bepetemish: by check, you mean view the contents?
[11:50] <bepetemish> you know.. looking at my folders
[11:50] <bepetemish> like games i installed on windows
[11:50] <ndazza> you're unlikely to be able to run windows games under linux...
[11:51] <ndazza> press alt+f2 and run media:/
[11:51] <ndazza> is your windows partition visible there?
[11:51] <cpk2> you can run windows games under linux
[11:51] <ricardo> how can i downgrade???
[11:51] <ndazza> cpk2: depends on the game, not out of the box, usually not natively :)
[11:51] <cpk2> wine fixes everything
[11:52] <rikioh> thehighchild; yes it mounted usb under system menu -> storage media
[11:52] <cpk2> plus some really good games are native
[11:52] <agresor> Hello guys.. I have Ubuntu 5.10  Brezzy.. Can i get kde from Kubuntu cd ?
[11:52] <Four23619> true, but there are still many games that dont work well / at all under wine
[11:52] <ndazza> wine chokes on many installers and some games. but yeah, a few games are native
[11:52] <bepetemish> my windows partition is visible but when i select it it says :   mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:53] <bepetemish> ndazza>
[11:53] <ndazza> agresor: if your machine is on the internet, you should be able to installl the package kubuntu-desktop to get a working kde install
[11:53] <cpk2> bepetemish: so add it to fstab?
[11:54] <ndazza> bepetemish: edit the file /etc/fstab and look for a line like this: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:54] <ndazza> if it isn't there add it. change hda1 to sda1
[11:54] <bepetemish> ok i go take a look
[11:54] <agresor> ndazza,  but my internet is too slow..
[11:54] <agresor> and i have to get 400 mb :(
[11:55] <ndazza> agresor: ahh. from a console, run sudo apt-cdrom /media/cdrom
[11:55] <ndazza> (with the cd in the drive)
[11:55] <ndazza> then try again
[11:58] <TheHighChild> anyone know how to mount a Motorola Razr?
[11:59] <bepetemish> is this ok ndazza?  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:59] <ndazza> bepetmish: change hda1 to sda1 (you have sata drives right?)
[12:01] <bepetemish> what to do now?  umount and mount?
[12:01] <arcus> bah. konversation is not executing these commands I've put in when I log in to a server.
[12:01] <arcus> why would that be, I wonder? any ideas?
[12:01] <ndazza> arcus: are they to chanserv/nickserv?
[12:01] <arcus> a msg to nickserv, yes.
[12:02] <ndazza> arcus: you could try /msg chanserv <command> instead of /chanserv <command>
[12:02] <arcus> seems exactly the same as the example in the manual
[12:02] <arcus> that's what I have, /msg nickserv ident <password>
[12:02] <ndazza> arcus: if you are trying to auto-identify that can be configured in your profile options i think
[12:02] <rikioh> can amarok not play .mp3 files?
[12:02] <ndazza> arcus: try identify instead of ident
[12:03] <agresor> ndazza,
[12:03] <ndazza> rikioh: mp3 is a restricted format. there's a way to get it to play... uh...
[12:03] <agresor> root@agresor:/home/agresor# apt-cdrom /media/cdrom
[12:03] <agresor> E: Invalid operation /media/cdrom
[12:03] <ndazza> !restrictedformats
[12:03] <cpk2> !mp3
[12:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:03] <ndazza> agresor: oops, wrong syntax
[12:04] <ndazza> try apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom
[12:05] <ricardo> please help! kde 354 repos upgrade have made a mess on my box...how can i get back??
[12:06] <rikioh> whats the keyboard command for opening programs again
[12:07] <herman> afternoon all
[12:08] <herman> lots of excitement here lol
[12:08] <bepetemish> ndazza after i done what you said what to do now?
[12:08] <mettledk> Hi
[12:09] <mettledk> I was wondering whether some of you could help me with a little problem in kubuntu?
[12:09] <cpk2> !ask
[12:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:09] <mettledk> :)
[12:09] <mettledk> Well - its about my network
[12:09] <ndazza> rikioh: alt+f2
[12:09] <dorota> heelo ;)
[12:09] <mettledk> When I boot up the kernel seems to prefer the sky2 driver, but it is defect
[12:09] <ndazza> bepetemish: try clicking on the drive again in media:/
[12:10] <mettledk> I have downloaded and installed a driver from Marvel
[12:10] <dein> anyone know what the point of the kernel upgrade was? other than security?
[12:10] <bepetemish>          ndazza: it says  only root can mout ....
[12:10] <mettledk> This driver works but I have to rmmod skyh2 and modprobe the other each time on boot
[12:11] <mettledk> How do I assign the new driver to the eth0 and eth1
[12:11] <mettledk> dein: I noticed the nvidia driver was no longer in the kernel
[12:12] <bepetemish> ndazza: it says  only root can mout......     how can i mount as root?
[12:12] <dein> ????
[12:12] <mark_> hello?
[12:12] <dein> mine still works
[12:12] <cpk2> bepetemish: do it as sudo...
[12:12] <ndazza> bepetemish: ok try this from a console: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[12:13] <mark_> i just wanted to ask a little question i haven't found on any forum yet
[12:13] <pequatre> hi everyone. just a quick question: i've prelinked KDE and set cron.daily and so on but i'm told to add KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 in /etc/environment. Is this the right file ? cheers.
[12:13] <dein> mettledk: your nvidia driver was killed?
[12:13] <cpk2> !ask
[12:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:13] <mettledk> yes
[12:13] <mark_> ok
[12:13] <bepetemish> ndazza now it says this..  mount: mount point /mnt/sda1 does not exist
[12:13] <dein> mettledk: all i did to fix mine was a quick sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:14] <cpk2> does apt-get change grub for you when you update the kernel?
[12:14] <egarim> why in kubuntu amule doesn't have the webserver support ?
[12:14] <ndazza> cpk2: yes
[12:14] <mark_> yesterday i managed to get some sound of my "ca0106"-thingy and was rather glad but when i rebooted it didn't even show in the volume control and modprobe snd-ca0106 doesn't change anything
[12:15] <mettledk> gotta go a few minuttes...
[12:15] <dein> ok im goin to bed
[12:15] <ndazza> bepetemish: check what mount points are in /mnt and /media. this might give you an idea of which is your windows partition
[12:15] <pequatre> need to reboot. bye.
[12:15] <ndazza> bepetemish: if you are sure it's sda1 you can go ahead and create it: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[12:15] <ndazza> bepetemish: oops make that sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1
[12:15] <herman> i am looking for a package to install the driver for a trust spacecam 320. Does such a package exist or do i have to compile?
[12:16] <rikioh> !mp3
[12:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <herman> ok thx
[12:17] <mark_> i just don't understand how the card can vanish
[12:17] <bioticpro> Hey all, how do fix the konq problem of, when you want to download a file, it asks to save as, then the file name gets changed to download.php instead of the acutal file name
[12:17] <cpk2> mark_: is it in lspci?
[12:17] <mark_> yes it is
[12:17] <mark_> as a
[12:17] <mark_> Audigy something LS
[12:17] <cpk2> so it didnt vanish =P
[12:17] <mettledk> dein: Well as far as I could see last night, the driver I was using was from the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic package
[12:17] <ndazza> ah while we're on the topic:
[12:17] <mark_> it's only hiding?
[12:17] <ndazza> my wireless pci card *did* vanish
[12:17] <mettledk> dein: and I could not find any linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26* packages...
[12:17] <ndazza> lspci doesn't show it
[12:18] <bepetemish> ndazza i maked it but still cant enter my windows folders
[12:18] <cpk2> ndazza: is it connected all the way?
[12:18] <mark_> 0000:01:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[12:18] <cpk2> so modprobe that
[12:18] <ndazza> cpk2: seems to be. the lights on the back are on. i tried 2 different slots
[12:19] <mark_> as sudo?
[12:19] <ndazza> bepetemish: what error do you get when you run sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[12:19] <mark_> maybe i have to sorta restart alsa?
[12:19] <cpk2> !sound
[12:19] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:20] <bepetemish> ndazza i get no errors
[12:21] <ndazza> bepetemish: open up konqueror and navigate to /mnt/sda1, all your files should be there
[12:21] <ndazza> bepetemish: be aware that you won't be able to write to the drive out of the box because microsoft hasn't released the specs for ntfs
[12:21] <mark_> modprobe doesn't make the card show up in the volume control
[12:22] <cpk2> !modprobe
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:22] <cpk2> !info modprobe
[12:22] <ubotu> Package modprobe does not exist in dapper
[12:22] <egarim> which is the default mailserve in kubuntu ?
[12:22] <mark_> mark@ubuntu:~$ !modprobe    modprobe snd-ca0106
[12:22] <bepetemish> ndazza when i navigate to /mnt/sda1 i get a message saying this: You do not have access rights to this location
[12:22] <ndazza> !info modutils
[12:22] <ubotu> modutils: Linux module utilities. In repository main, is extra. Version 2.4.27.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 227 kB, installed size 736 kB
[12:22] <agresor> !modproble webcam eye
[12:22] <agresor> ;D
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about modproble webcam eye - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:23] <mark_> so i install modutils?
[12:23] <agresor> !modproble genius-webcam
[12:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about modproble genius-webcam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:23] <ndazza> egarim: i think it may be exim
[12:23] <cpk2> mark_: whats the card manufactuerer?
[12:23] <agresor> !modproble genius
[12:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about modproble genius - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:23] <mark_> umm
[12:23] <cpk2> no i think its postfix
[12:23] <cpk2> exim i know isnt default
[12:23] <mark_> i think it's onboard so it'd be nvidia ?
[12:23] <ndazza> bepetemish: oh, right. from a console run sudo mount /mnt/sda1 -o remount,user
[12:23] <cpk2> almost 100%
[12:23] <mark_> or msi?
[12:24] <ndazza> cpk2: you're probably right. i'm going on debian's default
[12:24] <mark_> you see it worked yesterday! that's what i don't get!
[12:24] <ricardo> help! how can i downgrade from kde 3.5.4 to kde 3.5.3???
[12:25] <cpk2> mark_: what did you change then?
[12:25] <egarim> ricardo: have problem ?
[12:25] <bepetemish> ndazza when i do that it says nothing
[12:25] <bepetemish> is that ok?
[12:25] <mark_> i don't know at all!
[12:25] <cpk2> ricardo: you might be able to remove kde and then install it
[12:25] <ndazza> bepetemish: yeah that's ok, try viewing the files again
[12:25] <mark_> i installed kde...
[12:26] <mark_> aaand I deleted one folder with alsa drivers i didn't install
[12:26] <egarim> what does it mean broken in dapper ?
[12:27] <egarim> what does it mean broken in dapper ? 3.4.5 doesn't works ?
[12:27] <ricardo> egarim: cpk2: i added the 3.5.4 repos and i got 90 upgradable packages (including some kernel updates..)  i upgraded and now i dont have kmenu nor a decent taskbar...
[12:27] <bepetemish> ndazza: when i do /mnt/sda1 it says i have no access rights, when i do media:/ it just says could not enter forum
[12:27] <ndazza> egarim: yes. if you install it in dapper things will crash/be missing/not work
[12:27] <ricardo> cpk2: how do i safely remove it?
[12:27] <TheHighChild> egarim: I saw my audio juicer was broke, I upgraded it and everything el;se was fine
[12:28] <cpk2> ricardo: i dunno purge kde or something, not entirely sure
[12:28] <gnomefreak> !kubuntu > ricardo
[12:28] <mark_> how can i restart alsa?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> ricardo: read your pm there are instuctions in there
[12:28] <cpk2> mark_: you deleted alsa drivers?
[12:28] <rikioh> is there a known reason why adept doesnt fully load on some peoples machines sometimes?
[12:28] <mark_> yes but i can't remember compiling them
[12:28] <TheHighChild> ricardo: right click on the kicker > add applet then pick your favorites
[12:28] <egarim> it's the first time that i hear problems with the offcial packages
[12:29] <ricardo> i have no kicker! TheHighChild
[12:29] <cpk2> mark_: ca0106 is the driver you want
[12:29] <mark_> yes
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ricardo: and just for the record the kde 3.5.4 will not give you a kernel (tha was  aleft over upgrade most likely
[12:29] <ricardo> gnomefreak: what pm??
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ricardo: the one from ubotu
[12:29] <cpk2> deleting that alsa folder was probably bad
[12:29] <mark_> ok
[12:29] <mark_> so i try to get it back
[12:30] <bepetemish> ndazza: when i do /mnt/sda1 it says i have no access rights, when i do media:/ it just says could not enter forum
[12:30] <ricardo> gnomefreak: thx...
[12:30] <cpk2> yeah maybe dpkg-reconfigure alsa or something might fix it
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ricardo: yw
[12:31] <mark_> ok i'll try that
[12:31] <ndazza> bepetemish: please run this command : mount; ls /mnt; ls /media
[12:31] <mark_> cool i tells me the package "alsa" is not installed
[12:31] <ndazza> bepetemish: paste all the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:32] <cpk2> !info alsa
[12:32] <ubotu> Package alsa does not exist in dapper
[12:32] <cpk2> thats because thats not the package
[12:32] <ndazza> bepetemish: actually make that: mount; ls -la /mnt; ls -la /media
[12:32] <cpk2> you should be ok just downloading the module i think
[12:32] <mark_> ok
[12:32] <cpk2> !sound
[12:32] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:32] <cpk2> use the second link there
[12:32] <mark_> i got
[12:32] <mark_> alsa-base
[12:32] <mark_> for example
[12:33] <cpk2> you can try to reconfigure that
[12:33] <rikioh> is clamav a good antivirus program
[12:33] <cpk2> apt-get install alsa will install alsa
[12:34] <cpk2> you worried about virii on linux?
[12:34] <rikioh> im just new and can never be too prepared
[12:34] <mark_> ok it says it takes alsa-base instead of alsa
[12:34] <rikioh> im trying to get as setup as i can :)
[12:34] <mark_> rikioh!
[12:34] <cpk2> thats fine mark_
[12:34] <mark_> haha my favourite movie
[12:35] <cpk2> rikioh: i suppose if you want an av clamav will work...
[12:35] <ndazza> rikioh: clamav is used to scan for windows viruses. there are no linux viruses in the wild
[12:35] <cpk2> i dont really see a reason for an av in linux
[12:35] <bepetemish> ndazza: do you got it?
[12:35] <ndazza> bepetemish: no. there should be a link on the page, can you paste that here please?
[12:36] <rikioh> mark_: ah finally someone who has seen that movie no one ever knows what i am talking about
[12:36] <mark_> haha
[12:36] <rikioh> ndazza: ok thats enough information for me i will stick without :)
[12:36] <mark_> i've seen it about a million times
[12:36] <bepetemish> ndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19562
[12:37] <cpk2> mark_: here is the module you need http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Audigy+SE.&chip=CA0106&module=ca0106
[12:37] <mark_> thank you
[12:37] <mark_> was already searching for it ^^
[12:38] <rikioh> if k torrent stalls alot is that because of a bad torrent or because of something within the program
[12:38] <rikioh> everytime im not looking my torrent is stalled
[12:39] <cpk2> rikioh: dont upload at your max upspeed
[12:40] <bernardosoares3> hello. i've prelinked my kde and i've added KDE_IS_PRELINKED in /etc/environment yet "ps aux|grep kdeinit" tells me that kdeinit is running. What gives ?
[12:40] <rikioh> cpk2: my max is 100 kb/s i have it at 10 and im stalled :)
[12:40] <ndazza> bepetemish: ok, can you also paste the contents of /etc/fstab for me?
[12:40] <bernardosoares3> correction: i've added KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1
[12:41] <mark_> sorry for the stupid question, but where is the download link on that site?
[12:42] <bepetemish> ndazza; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19565
[12:42] <ndazza> rikioh: try with a healthy torrent, like http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/torrents/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.torrent
[12:43] <mark_> i take alsa-driver-0.4.0
[12:43] <mark_> ok
[12:43] <cpk2> ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver
[12:44] <ndazza> bepetemish: heh sorry i wasn't terribly specific: i need the _contents_ of /etc/fstab, please run cat /etc/fstab and paste that
[12:44] <cpk2> mark_: they have newer ones than that
[12:44] <mark_> yup i took the most recent one
[12:44] <mark_> hoping it's not a bet
[12:44] <mark_> a
[12:45] <cpk2> mark_: get 1.0.9
[12:45] <mark_> oh ok
[12:45] <mark_> yes that's it
[12:45] <cpk2> 0.4.0 is from 1999
[12:46] <mark_> but what i uninstalled was the 0.4.0
[12:46] <bepetemish> ndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19566
[12:46] <mark_> ok thanks i'll try to follow the instructions this evening but now i gotta go
[12:46] <mark_> goodbye
[12:47] <ndazza> bepetemish: ahh i think 'ive found the problem
[12:47] <bepetemish> ndazza: chill
[12:47] <ndazza> bepetemish: run sudo umount /mnt/sda1 && sudo rmdir /mnt/sda1
[12:48] <ricardo> did any kernel update became available in the last few hours??
[12:48] <bepetemish> ndazza: ok i did
[12:48] <ndazza> bepetemish: then edit /etc/fstab: the line that reads /dev/sda1.... after the default option there is a period ( . ), that should be a comma
[12:48] <cpk2> apparently yes
[12:50] <ndazza> bepetemish: once this is done, your link in media:/ should work
[12:50] <Ertain> I can't seem to copy files off of my DVD+RW disc.  Well, they're not intact.
[12:50] <bepetemish> ndazza: it still says only root can mount
[12:51] <ndazza> i just saw another typo: default should be defaults
[12:52] <pcfan> Hi all, I had installed kubuntu on an ubuntu installation, so I have both meta-packages ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed. my question is how to remove all the ubuntu-desktop packages, since I don't want gnome?
[12:53] <cpk2> sudo apt-get purge gnome?
[12:53] <cpk2> not sure on that one though
[12:53] <pcfan> and that remove also totem and other things like nautilus ?
[12:53] <cpk2> dunno
[12:54] <gnomefreak> pcfan: you want to remove gnome and all its apps?
[12:54] <pcfan> yes
[12:54] <pcfan> just want kde
[12:54] <bepetemish> ndazza: it still says only root can mount
[12:54] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk
[12:55] <pcfan> are you sure about this? since I use some gtk programs on kde...
[12:55] <cpk2> bepetemish: you know when it says only root can blahblahblah you can just do "sudo !!" and then it will let you do it?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> pcfan: you will have to reinstall them
[12:55] <pcfan> gnomefreak: ok
[12:57] <bepetemish> cpk2: no.. im not in consule.. im doing RUN, Media:/, and then select my windows partition, so the only root warning is a pop-up screen
[12:57] <ndazza> bepetemish: did you fix the next typo? the defaults one?
[01:00] <bepetemish> ndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19568
[01:01] <Ertain> I keep having buffer errors and I/O errors when I try to copy files from my DVD+RW disc.  I'm pretty sure that the disc is fine.  Btw, I haven't tried copying the files on another computer.
[01:03] <ndazza> bepetemish: line 6 of that posting, the section that reads ntfs default,nls=.... that should read ntfs defaults,nls=...
[01:03] <bernardosoares3> hello. Can anyone help me on telling KDE that it is prelinked ? i've added the correct lines to /etc/environment yet kdeinit still starts :(
[01:04] <ricardo> has anybody updated to kde 3.5.3?
[01:04] <ndazza> bernardosoares3: is kdeinit not meant to start when ur libs are prelinked?
[01:05] <cpk2> ricardo: i have but havent restarted x yet
[01:05] <ndazza> bernardosoares3: i thought prelinking was just a performance tweak for shared libraries
[01:05] <bernardosoares3> ndazza: there's a way to tell kdeinit not to start if kde is prelinked.
[01:05] <ibert> hi! I want to find out which encoding a text file has. Which tool can I use for such a job?
[01:05] <bernardosoares3> since KDE 3.2 i think
[01:06] <bepetemish> ndazza: ok i edited it but still get the ROOT message
[01:07] <ndazza> bernardosoares3: ah okay, i wasn't aware of that. if that's the case, why does kdeinit start up under kubuntu at all? i thought ubuntu was normally prelinked anyways
[01:07] <bernardosoares3> ndazza: no i don't think so ?
[01:07] <ricardo> i updated to 3.5.4...the downgraded to 3.5.3....and i have the same problems...no kicker...no taskbar....etc..
[01:08] <Healot> xchat-xhat
[01:08] <ndazza> bepetemish: okay, can i please have the output of ls -la /mnt; ls -la /media; cat /etc/fstab; cat /proc/mounts
[01:10] <bepetemish> ndazza: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19569
[01:10] <bernardosoares3> ndazza: see http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/environment-variables.html
[01:11] <bernardosoares3> look at kde_is_prelinked
[01:12] <bepetemish> BRB
[01:14] <ndazza> bepetemish: thanks for your patience. please remove one of the = signs on the sda1 line. the line should look exactly like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19571
[01:16] <ndazza> bernardosoares3: you've rebooted the system since adding this? or just restarted kde?
[01:17] <bernardosoares3> ndazza: i did reboot yes
[01:18] <ndazza> bernardosoares3: and env | grep KDE_IS_PRELINKED gives?
[01:19] <bernardosoares3> ndazza: nothing
[01:19] <nalpha> how to know why i can't ftp to another computer in my network? can i know the list of port that i can used or command to know the security??
[01:20] <ricardo> kde downgrade doesnt work...
[01:21] <ricardo> i followed the instruction http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0 and im still stuck with 3.5.4
[01:21] <bepetemish> ndazza: why thank me for my patience? your the one helping me. so thank you and i have did what you said
[01:22] <ltmon> Load mediamanager kded module soon in the startup. Fixes bugs 127971 and 129534. See SVN commit 560584.
[01:22] <ndazza> bernardosoares3: i'm afraid i don't know enough about the way kde picks up environment variables. it may be that /etc/environment isn't the right file, try having a look at /etc/login.defs
[01:22] <ndazza> bepetemish: is the media:/ link working now?
[01:22] <ltmon> oopps... sorry for the accidental paste into the channel
[01:22] <ndazza> nalpha: are you trying to connect to a linux box?
[01:23] <bernardosoares3> ndazza: you must be right, my syntax or the file must be wrong
[01:23] <ibert> nalpha: nmap HOSTNAME
[01:23] <fritsch> nalpha: try nmape -P0 (he could blog scan requests)
[01:23] <fritsch> nalpha: ;-)
[01:24] <ndazza> nalpha: if it's an k/ubuntu box  that's serving up ftp try installing the inetutils-ftpd and inetutils-inetd packages
[01:25] <bepetemish> ndazza: why thank me for my patience? your the one helping me. so thank you and i have did what you said
[01:25] <bepetemish> ndazza: but stilll can't get in my windows partition
[01:25] <ndazza> bepetemish: from a console, try: mount /media/sda1
[01:26] <bepetemish> ndazza: then it says: "only root can mount
[01:26] <ndazza> bepetemish: many people get angry or arrogant after a while
[01:26] <ndazza> bepetemish: you are calmer and more reasonable than most :)
[01:27] <rikioh> well guys im off to bed... its 6 am :)   maybe ill have a dream where i actually know what im doing in kubuntu ... wouldnt that be nice
[01:28] <bepetemish> ndazza: well thank you
[01:28] <mauri> hi
[01:28] <mauri> a channel keeps saying
[01:28] <mauri> plz register with the service
[01:28] <ndazza> rikioh: i hope not, those dreams are scary :)
[01:28] <mauri> and use identify command to speak
[01:28] <mauri> ?!
[01:29] <ndazza> bepetemish: .... now mine is saying the same
[01:30] <bepetemish> ndazza: ow your working " with" me? like copy the settings i have then solve the problem on your linux and then tell me how you did?
[01:31] <jott> bepetemish: ndazza: you have to add the "users" option to allow a normal user to mount/umount... otherwise you need to run sudo mount...
[01:31] <ndazza> bepetemish: well yes i guess so :) i just fixed it on mine like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19575
[01:32] <ndazza> jott: so i thought, but it was working on mine before *shrugs* i think we have it now
[01:32] <jott> ndazza: userS ;-)
[01:33] <jott> i guess so at least ;)
[01:33] <bepetemish> ndazza: so i need to chance to this /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1? and how do i set the users to mount/unmount?
[01:33] <ndazza> hehehe damn plurals
[01:33] <ndazza> bepetemish: yes, but jott just pointed out it needs to be users, not user
[01:34] <ndazza> bepetemish: the fstab file is a space separated list of fields. the fourth field is the one that should read users,nls=utf8 etc, that's the options field
[01:34] <ndazza> bepetemish: having the users option in there should allow users to mount/unmount
[01:34] <Pupeno> I am having trouble downloading kubuntu-docs, is the problem known ? global or just my mirror ?
[01:34] <ndazza> i'll put another pastebin up with the exact line
[01:35] <ndazza> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19576
[01:35] <jott> the plural is for allowing users to unmount as the man page states ;)
[01:35] <ricardo> has anybody ever lost their kicker?
[01:36] <bepetemish> ndazza: YES im in.. thanks a LOT for helping me out..
[01:36] <ndazza> bepetemish: glad it finally worked out for you
[01:37] <cong_> hallo
[01:37] <ndazza> jott, i wonder why he couldn't mount though... it just seems rather strange
[01:37] <bepetemish> ndazza: yeah tnx for everything.. 1 last question.. do you know a good windows emulator?
[01:38] <ndazza> bepetemish: wine or cedega are pretty much the only emulators on linux
[01:38] <ndazza> bepetemish: you can pay for a commercial version of wine called crossover office too
[01:38] <bepetemish> ndazza: ok, tnx
[01:38] <jott> ...and crossover office.. (which is like cedega essentialy a mocked up wine)
[01:38] <jott> right :)
[01:39] <ndazza> exactly :)
[01:55] <nat> how do i dowload morascape
[01:55] <nat> for linux
[01:55] <nat> i extracted with ark
[01:55] <nat> and it comes up with shell script
[01:56] <nat> !ark
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about ark - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:56] <nat> hello
[01:58] <bepetemish> how can i install " wine" ? im trying it now with adept manager but i think its not working
[01:59] <ibert> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:00] <nat> ?
[02:00] <nat> hello ibert
[02:00] <nat> how do i download morascape
[02:00] <nat> for linux
[02:00] <nat> i extracted with ark
[02:00] <nat> and it comes up with shell sctipt
[02:01] <ibert> I don't know this piece of software....
[02:01] <bepetemish> ibert: sudo apt-get install wine isnt working
[02:02] <ibert> hae you opened your sources.list?
[02:02] <ibert> whats teh error?
[02:03] <bepetemish> nope.. this is the first time im going to install something so i dont know much about it
[02:03] <SaVioLa> how can i go to /home with konsole?
[02:03] <ibert> ok.
[02:03] <ibert> cd /home
[02:03] <SaVioLa> k ty
[02:03] <ibert> bepetemish: just one moment
[02:04] <bepetemish> iberd: ok
[02:04] <Pupeno> SaVioLa: or cd .. when you are in /home/your_user/
[02:04] <jott> bepetemish: you could try to use automatix it will help you install various packages not in the default repositories
[02:05] <jott> bepetemish: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:06] <bepetemish> jott: ok they say i need to add this    deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt kubuntu main
[02:06] <ibert> bepetemish: have look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:07] <bepetemish> ibert: ok im in sources.list
[02:07] <ibert> bepetemish: now you can see that a lot of sources are with an # at the beginning of the line
[02:07] <ibert> bepetemish: delete those '#' - then they are uncommented
[02:07] <bepetemish> ibert: yes
[02:08] <ibert> bepetemish: after that apt-get update && apt-get install wine
[02:08] <ibert> bepetemish: and you're done
[02:09] <bepetemish> ibert: this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19580 can you take a look and show me what to edit?
[02:10] <Ace2007> Hi i upgraded KDE to 3.5.4 and all the settings have gone like F4 to open konsole from within konqueror
[02:10] <ricardo> hey guys...i only see the panel, no kicker, no clock...no nothing...any ideas?
[02:10] <ricardo> Ace2007: I have the same problem!!!
[02:11] <Pupeno> 2.5.4 broken in dapper, it is in the topic.
[02:11] <Pupeno> 3
[02:11] <Ace2007> Pupeno: so any fixes?
[02:11] <ibert> bepetemish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19581
[02:11] <Pupeno> I don't know, I don't tend to use other KDE except the one that comes with dapper, the stable one.
[02:11] <ricardo> Pupeno: we got it...but what can we do know?
[02:12] <bobbyyu> Can someone please tell me where I can get the modified version of diskmounnter?
[02:12] <abattoir> ricardo: try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc....and start the kicker w/ 'kicker'
[02:12] <abattoir> ricardo: close it /w 'killall kicker' first
[02:12] <bepetemish> ibert: can i just copy/paste this or do i need to do more?
[02:13] <jott> bepetemish: you could add the getautomatix line or "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to get a more recent wine
[02:14] <Ace2007> ricardo: go into synaptic using "kdesu synaptic" (you'll have to install synaptic if you don't have it) and then find kde-base and then right click and ask it it install
[02:14] <jott> as wine tends to make fast progress its always good to stay up-to-date ;-)
[02:14] <Ace2007> ricardo: that is if you had problems during the install
[02:14] <bepetemish> jott: but where in the sources do i add that line?
[02:15] <ricardo> abattoir: should i delete the file? what will happen then?
[02:15] <jott> anywhere you like
[02:15] <jott> so on at the end would be fine
[02:15] <ibert> bepetemish: just replace the old one..
[02:15] <abattoir> ricardo: wait a sec.... that should 'reset' your kicker.... but i think there is a problem w/ reading it from kubuntu-default-settings
[02:15] <ricardo> abattoir: you are a genius!!!!!
[02:16] <ricardo> it worked....
[02:16] <abattoir> ricardo: aah, good :)
[02:16] <ricardo> abattoir: actually you are right...it was reset...
[02:17] <abattoir> ricardo: anything else wrong... w/ the updates?
[02:17] <ricardo> abattoir: what d you mean?
[02:18] <abattoir> ricardo: you upgraded to 3.5.4 right... anything else 'missing' or broken?
[02:18] <bepetemish> ibert: ok i edited the source. how can i install, download, open wine now?
[02:18] <ricardo> nop...
[02:19] <abattoir> ricardo: hmmm... ok, thanks :)
[02:19] <ricardo> abattoir: will the kicker be automatically loaded at startup from now on?
[02:20] <abattoir> ricardo: yes, should be....
[02:20] <bepetemish> jott: ok i edited the source. how can i install, download, open wine now?
[02:21] <jott> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[02:22] <jott> maybe sudo apt-get install automatix  if you want to try it... (installs also various media codecs)
[02:22] <bepetemish> jott: ok its installing
[02:23] <ThunderStruck> jott: automatix isnt in repos
[02:23] <jott> yeah i told him to add the line ;)
[02:24] <ricardo> Ace2007: I dont find kde-base
[02:25] <visik7> I've added an entry in menu.lst of grub but when I select it from the restart dialog it doesn't boot into it
[02:25] <Ace2007> ricardo: did it complain about broken packages when it started? if it didn't its fine, it could have just been me
[02:25] <visik7> what I have to do to get it working ?
[02:25] <bepetemish> jott: its installed
[02:25] <ThunderStruck> visik7: what are you trying to get working?
[02:25] <visik7> ThunderStruck: do you know when you start logout ?
[02:25] <visik7> that there is a menu for reboot
[02:26] <ricardo> Ace2007: kubuntu-docs..is the only package i cant install
[02:26] <visik7> that allow you to select in which OS to reboot ?
[02:26] <ThunderStruck> yes
[02:26] <Ace2007> ricardo: but did it complain about broken packages, (its kdebase, sorry there is no dash)
[02:26] <visik7> ThunderStruck: ok I've added an entry but it doesn't boot in this entry
[02:26] <bobbyyu> I need to change permissions on my Fat32 drive. What should I do?
[02:26] <visik7> bobbyyu: mount with umask
[02:26] <bepetemish> jott: now how do i open wine :o
[02:26] <ThunderStruck> visik7: entry for?
[02:26] <visik7> for another OS
[02:27] <visik7> whith it's own boot loader
[02:27] <visik7> (that is grub) :)
[02:27] <visik7> but if I press esc
[02:27] <visik7> and select it
[02:27] <visik7> (at boot time)
[02:27] <visik7> it works
[02:27] <bobbyyu> I'm sorry if this question is annoying... how?
[02:27] <visik7> only the reboot dialog cannot select it
[02:27] <visik7> bobbyyu: man mount :)
[02:27] <visik7> umask=<mask>
[02:27] <visik7> as an option
[02:28] <ThunderStruck> visik7: thats strange (im not real sure)
[02:28] <ricardo> Ace2007: nop...
[02:28] <ricardo> Ace2007: now im downgrading to 3.5.3...lets see what it gives....
[02:28] <visik7> ThunderStruck: isn't a doc that explain how to set a grub entry to get it work properly ?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !grub
[02:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:29] <gnomefreak> visik7: somewhere in there
[02:29] <Ace2007> ricardo: don't
[02:29] <ricardo> why?
[02:29] <ricardo> Ace2007:
[02:29] <Ace2007> ricardo: why are you down grading?
[02:29] <ricardo> because 3.5.4 does not work
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Ace2007: kde 2.5.4 - 3.5.3
[02:29] <Ace2007> ricardo: whats wrong with it?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> 3.5.4*
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ricardo: did you do the latest updates?
[02:30] <ricardo> im downgading from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.3
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ricardo: the kicker issue was fixed the other day
[02:30] <ricardo> gnomefreak: how?
[02:30] <ricardo> ok...so i can use 3.5.4??
[02:30] <Ace2007> ricardo: yea why downgrade? its most likely your settings that were screwed not kde itself
[02:30] <ricardo> ok...
[02:31] <Ace2007> ricardo: yea you can use it
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ricardo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    it was fixed 2 days ago
[02:31] <SaVioLa> how can i install flash player in opera?
[02:31] <helfrez> 3.5.4 be sure to read the README in the server, the defaults file is borked so it will reset soem of your preferences
[02:31] <ricardo> ok...wait guys...ill upgrade to kde 3.5.4 and see what happens....
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !opera
[02:31] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[02:31] <visik7> let opera scan for mozila plugins
[02:31] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr
[02:31] <ricardo> be right back...
[02:31] <bobbyyu> How do I run umask?
[02:32] <helfrez> im running 3.5.4 in 32 machines with the same effects, nothign major but you will lose some settings
[02:32] <helfrez> 2 machines not 32 lol
[02:32] <visik7> my grub entry is here http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=19619
[02:32] <visik7> practically I've installed 2 ubuntu
[02:32] <visik7> one on hd0,0
[02:32] <visik7> and grub with it
[02:33] <visik7> and another on hd0,5
[02:33] <visik7> with it's own grub
[02:33] <visik7> it works
[02:33] <visik7> manually
[02:33] <visik7> but it doesn't with the reboot dialog
[02:36] <bepetemish> jott: i have done what you say but what to do now??
[02:37] <ibert> bepetemish: what do you want to do?
[02:37] <jott> bepetemish: so when you installed automatix you can run sudo automatix and follow the instructions
[02:37] <MukiEX> Is anyone here having issues with certain vids and the xv video extension that don't show up in other video outs, like opengl?
[02:38] <jott> bepetemish: when you want to run wine run winecfg and then wine yourapp.exe
[02:38] <MukiEX> In both kaffiene and vlc?
[02:39] <mcbuddha_> hi all!
[02:39] <mcbuddha_> i just updated to kde 3.5.4 and my konqueror doesn't work well
[02:39] <bepetemish> jott: winecfg will do the job
[02:39] <bepetemish> jott: tnzx
[02:40] <visik7> mcbuddha_: does it works with a plain user ?
[02:40] <MukiEX> Anyone else getting the green channel bug with xv?
[02:40] <visik7> (e.g. with a clean .kde ?
[02:40] <mcbuddha_> not that kind
[02:40] <Jack12> hi guys the website of sony ericsson requires the adobe flash player , how to get it for konqueror ?
[02:40] <mcbuddha_> just missing address bar and nav buttons (back, home, up etc)
[02:42] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: rt. click on the top(where you'd expect those things to be)->Toolbars->Location Toolbar
[02:42] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: tell me if it works
[02:43] <jordan_> when i reboot my computer setings on pulpit not save ?
[02:43] <ricardo> Ace2007: abattoir: when im upgading to kde 3.5.4 is asks me to remove kdelibs-bin...is that safe?
[02:43] <Jack12> whats new in kde 3.5.4?
[02:43] <abattoir> ricardo: from what i recall, the 'packaging scheme' has changed, and kdelibs-bin is no longer being used... just to be safe, see if the file is in the repos...
[02:43] <Jack12> is it worth getting it now?
[02:44] <abattoir> Jack12: as you can see, it is still broken in dapper... if you can, please wait for it to be fixed...
[02:44] <abattoir> Jack12: *as you can see from the topic
[02:45] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: nothing
[02:45] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: what do you mean? the location bar is already enabled?
[02:45] <jordan_> when i reboot my computer setings on pulpit not save. How to save them ?
[02:45] <jott> the files in the kdebase of http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/pool-dapper/kdebase/ are a few hours old.. is it fixed now?
[02:46] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: there's no location toolbar option
[02:46] <bepetemish> jott: i imported the game hitman in wine graphic window.. how do i start it now>
[02:46] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: ok... so you see Main, Extra, but not location?
[02:46] <ricardo> from the kubuntu site regarding kde 3.5.4: "these packages have a bug which stops kubuntu-default-settings from applying"
[02:47] <jott> bepetemish: try to run wine hitman.exe (or whatever) in the folder you have it.. (dont know if wine supports it.... you may have to use cedega for that)
[02:47] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: google suggest, main, speech, extra. that's all
[02:47] <jott> ricardo: yeah but that message is 2 days old ;)
[02:47] <jott> it looks like there was a very recent update
[02:47] <ricardo> jott: ok...thanls....
[02:48] <bepetemish> jott: this is the error i get when i do hitman.exe :    wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\hitman.exe": Module not found
[02:48] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: hmmm... do you want to try deleting the konqueror config file(will delete all your konq. specific settings_?
[02:48] <jott> bepetemish: you may have to install it from the scratch.. like using "wine setup.exe" from the install folder
[02:49] <mcbuddha_> abattor: where can i find it?
[02:49] <bepetemish> jott: no that doesnt work
[02:49] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror.rc
[02:49] <jott> bepetemish: http://appdb.winehq.org/ you may want to check this site for compatibility information
[02:50] <jott> bepetemish: but as for games cedega is probably the better choice...
[02:50] <jott> bepetemish: the only drawback: its commercial ;)
[02:50] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: backup those files, close konqueror, delete from a terminal, restart konqueror
[02:50] <bepetemish> jott: maiby its because i havn't added any liberies
[02:50] <mcbuddha_> doing so...
[02:51] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: good :)
[02:51] <califfo>  is there anyone using ktorrent and having "not connectable" problems even if firewall rules are properly set?
[02:52] <jott> bepetemish: yeah it can be tricky sometimes to get things running.. just take a look at the appdb there are explanations on what to do for some particular app
[02:53] <bepetemish> jott: well tnx for everything but i have to go now...
[02:53] <bepetemish> jott: maiby i talk to you later
[02:53] <jott> bepetemish: sure np
[02:54] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: there is no ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror.rc
[02:54] <stephan_> califfo: I do
[02:54] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: oops sorry, /
[02:55] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[02:55] <califfo> stephan_ , maybe in filemp3.org?
[02:55] <ibert> how can I give the hostname of an DHCP-Client back to an DHCP server?
[02:56] <stephan_> califfo: I don't know.  I've never managed to get a torent client work, neither under Kubuntu nor XP.
[02:56] <ricardo> abattoir: i have 3 broken packages when upgrading...how can i fix them?
[02:56] <abattoir> ricardo: which ones?
[02:56] <califfo> stephan_ it's so simple if you don't need do login :)
[02:57] <stephan_> califfo: so I guess it's a firewall problem.  I use a Netgear FR114P
[02:57] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: nothing. i've searched for it
[02:57] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: there is no ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc?
[02:57] <califfo> u just have to set two ports
[02:57] <mcbuddha_> no, there isn't
[02:57] <MukiEX> Anyone know what causes this in VLC? http://www.emonville.com/mukichan/src/1154609819336.jpg
[02:57] <califfo> stephan_ u just have to set two ports
[02:58] <ricardo> abattoir:  kaudiocreator, kdesktop, kdm, konqueror (actually there are 4)
[02:58] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: hmmm, that's weird, ok, try restarting konqueror and see if you see the location bar.
[02:58] <abattoir> ricardo: updating through adept?
[02:58] <ricardo> yeap
[02:58] <ricardo> abattoir: should i use synaptic instead?
[02:59] <abattoir> ricardo: and it tells you BREAK(install).... try 'apt-get' it'd give you more clues..
[02:59] <abattoir> ricardo: as to why the breakage would occur
[02:59] <califfo> sudo apt-get package-name --reinstall?
[03:00] <Riddell> ** testers needed for  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[03:01] <ricardo> abattoir: so i fix borken packages with synaptic...i am now upgrading to 3.5.4
[03:02] <abattoir> ricardo: ^^^^^^^^^
[03:02] <ricardo> abattoir: what?
[03:02] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: i cannot delete it even as root
[03:03] <abattoir> ricardo:  there are new packages....  kubuntu.org ones.. want to try that?
[03:03] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: konquerorrc?
[03:03] <mcbuddha_> (~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc)
[03:03] <ricardo> abattoir: which new packages?
[03:03] <ricardo> abattoir: dont get what you mean...
[03:04] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: ok, i have it done
[03:04] <ricardo> abattoir: ok...upgrading was a succes...lets restart to see whats happen...
[03:05] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: but there's still no location bar option...
[03:05] <tdn> How do I make Ctrl+W close konq' when there is only one tab left?
[03:06] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: then i'd suggest you wait till the breakage issue is sorted out... dont know if the new debs fix that...
[03:06] <califfo>  is there anyone using ktorrent and having "not connectable" problems even if firewall rules are properly set?
[03:06] <rodrigo_> can somebody give me a spanish channnel?
[03:07] <abattoir> !es
[03:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:07] <rodrigo_> ubotu: thank you very much
[03:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you very much - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:07] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: ok, thanks. i'll send the report
[03:07] <stephan_> califfo: I've open an acount on filemp3.org.  Waiting...
[03:08] <rodrigo_> ubotu: what dou you know about?
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about what dou you know about? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:08] <stephan_> califfo: About the port, I've got 6881 in TCP/UDP and 4444 in UDP
[03:08] <califfo> 6881 sucks, I think it's blacklisted
[03:08] <califfo> i changed to 49190
[03:08] <rodrigo_> ubotu: thank you
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:09] <stephan_> califfo: ok, I'll try 49190
[03:09] <fritsch> everybody who wants to test (probably fixed 3.5.4 kde packages) look for them here:
[03:09] <fritsch> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354
[03:09] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: OMG i started the report wizard, and it opened up a konq window with toolbar and nav buttons!
[03:10] <gnomefreak> fritsch: still looking for testers ;)
[03:10] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: either 1) you didnt wait for the settings to take effect :P... or
[03:10] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: 2) It loaded another view profile which wasnt 'screwed up' :)
[03:10] <fritsch> gnomefreak: Riddell allowed me to fetch as many as possible
[03:10] <gnomefreak> ah
[03:11] <fritsch> gnomefreak: getting the topic changed is my salvation (mmmh cant find the right word) today
[03:11] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:11] <fritsch> gnomefreak: wait look up the dictionary
[03:11] <grothesk> kde testing? me! me!
[03:11] <grothesk> Updating to 3.5.4 was painful.
[03:11] <gnomefreak> something like "if you want to test kde 3.5.4 you can find it here?
[03:11] <fritsch> i meant intention
[03:11] <gnomefreak> something easy
[03:12] <grothesk> Had to delete .kde completely.
[03:12] <jott> ok update && upgrade started ;)
[03:12] <fritsch> grothesk: mmmh you should not have to do
[03:12] <fritsch> jott: updated your sources.list?
[03:12] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: but the two konquerors have different menus, in the 'new' there was no option to set the profile
[03:13] <jott> sure..
[03:13] <grothesk> systemsettings keeps crashing when selecting a cerain Folder
[03:13] <jott> wonder why there are so many packages kept back
[03:13] <fritsch> jott: dist-upgrade
[03:13] <jott> k
[03:13] <fritsch> jott: it has to install new ones
[03:13] <fritsch> grothesk: how can i reproduce this?
[03:13] <ricardo> abattoir: it worked...im under kde 3.5.4...
[03:13] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: did you restart KDE/X/system after the upgrade?
[03:13] <abattoir> ricardo: cool :)
[03:14] <grothesk> fritsch: Do you speak german?
[03:14] <jott> so removal of the kdelibs-bin is fine is guess .. what's its replacement?
[03:14] <ricardo> abattoir: now i have reconfigure my taskbar as before...but it was nice learning ;p
[03:14] <mcbuddha_> abattoir: no...oops i will do that now
[03:14] <abattoir> ricardo: indeed...
[03:14] <fritsch> jott: yes not needed anymore
[03:15] <abattoir> mcbuddha_: that could fix a few issues
[03:15] <jott> fritsch: you know whats the package containing its stuff now?
[03:15] <ricardo> now....has anybody installed kernel 2.6.15-26-686?
[03:16] <fritsch> jott: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
[03:16] <fritsch> jott: i think
[03:16] <jott> ok thanks
[03:17] <fritsch> gnomefreak: grothesk found a bug, reproducable here
[03:17] <jott> hm there are a couple of conflicts..
[03:17] <gnomefreak> fritsch: what is it
[03:17] <fritsch> gnomefreak: you are running dapper immo?
[03:18] <grothesk> 'systemsettings' crashes when choosing a certain folder.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> fritsch: nope
[03:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: click on SystemSettings ->"Region and Country Settings"
[03:18] <gnomefreak> fritsch: but i would like to see if its reproducible here
[03:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: then "shortcuts"
[03:18] <fritsch> gnomefreak: then command shortcuts
[03:19] <fritsch> gnomefreak: sorry for the very bad translation
[03:19] <fritsch> gnomefreak: this was one: and I found another
[03:19] <gnomefreak> fritsch: give me a min i have to boot kde im working on something atm for like 2 mins more
[03:19] <fritsch> gnomefreak: the other is: "User And Groups" in Systemsettings
[03:19] <fritsch> gnomefreak: if you want to get Superuser, it does not do anything
[03:20] <gnomefreak> brb let me boot
[03:20] <jott> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19592 here are the messages.. those pkgs should be masked i guess
[03:21] <grothesk> fritsch: Not reproducable here.
[03:21] <grothesk> I can log in as superuser
[03:22] <fritsch> jott: do dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/Packagename
[03:22] <fritsch> jott: after that: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:22] <fritsch> grothesk: okay
[03:22] <jott> fritsch: yeah i know.. but i guess this should not happen
[03:23] <califfo> any ktorrent users?
[03:24] <ThunderStruck> ok back
[03:25] <gnomefreak> in system settings where am i going?
[03:25] <zan> tell me please, how can i queue a song more than one time in amarok?
[03:25] <abattoir> zan: putting it into the playlist twice doesnt work?
[03:25] <fritsch> gnomefreak:
[03:26] <fritsch> SystemSettings -> Region and Country Settings, then the second from down
[03:26] <fritsch> then the second button under current scheme
[03:26] <zan> oh... i thought i can do that with the queue option..
[03:26] <fritsch> gnomefreak: if you tell me how i can start kcontrol in english, suggest me
[03:26] <mcbuddha> abattoir: after restarting the X-server: http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060803/screenshot5_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
[03:26] <zan> thanks...
[03:27] <gnomefreak> fritsch: i dont have region and countrys i have regaonal and accessiblity
[03:27] <gnomefreak> (sp)
[03:27] <grothesk> gnomefreak: That's right.
[03:27] <grothesk> Then go to 'shortcuts', gnomefreak
[03:27] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes, sorry bad translation
[03:27] <fritsch> you could find it?
[03:28] <fritsch> grothesk: can you try this:
[03:28] <gnomefreak> keyboard shortcuts?
[03:28] <fritsch> grothesk: run LANG=en_US kcontrol
[03:28] <gnomefreak> fritsch: its ok
[03:28] <abattoir> mcbuddha:  i guess the one on the left is 'Web Browsing'...??
[03:28] <fritsch> gnomefreak: wait, whats is ander keyboard shortcuts?
[03:29] <zan> 1 more question: is there a script or something so that i can locate the current song? let's say i was manually viewing the playlist and the song changes... how can i go to the current song?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ander?
[03:29] <fritsch> under keyboard shortcuts
[03:29] <fritsch> sorry, but german english mix
[03:30] <zan> yeah... found it :)) already... thanks...
[03:30] <gnomefreak> i dont see it
[03:30] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i think keyboard shortcuts is the right one, ist over "accesibility" oder sth.
[03:30] <grothesk> fritsch: It does work when using kcontrol. Just 'systemsettings' crashes.
[03:30] <fritsch> grothesk: found out, too
[03:31] <gnomefreak> thats good
[03:31] <gnomefreak> crashing is a good thing
[03:31] <fritsch> gnomefreak: crashing for you, too?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> no
[03:31] <fritsch> ill do a screenshot series
[03:31] <gnomefreak> crashing you can get a backtrace/strace and we can pinpoint what is happeneing
[03:32] <grothesk> http://www.phpfi.com/136891 gnomefreak Here is a backtrace
[03:32] <mcbuddha> abattoir: you're right
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:32] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:32] <grothesk> Sorry, no dbg-package found for systemsettings... :-(
[03:32] <mcbuddha> abattoir: how can i start konq in web browser mode?
[03:33] <abattoir> mcbuddha: kfmclient --openProfile web, i think, wait, i'll confirm
[03:33] <jott> ok upgrade worked fine so far
[03:33] <jott> no problems with kicker
[03:34] <jott> and no probs with konqueror so far
[03:34] <jott> ah
[03:34] <jott> i get this crash too
[03:34] <fritsch> jott: the one with language and accessibility?
[03:35] <jott> regional&accessibillity -> keyboard shortcuts -> tab command shortcuts => crash
[03:35] <fritsch> jott: thx!
[03:35] <fritsch> i pasted it in kubuntu-devel
[03:35] <jott> KHotKeys::init_global_data ()
[03:35] <abattoir> mcbuddha: 'kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing'
[03:36] <fritsch> jott: what langauge are you using?
[03:36] <jott> english...
[03:37] <jott> so en_US i guess
[03:37] <mcbuddha> abattoir: thanks, but it seems to start automatically in web mode. thanks for your help!
[03:37] <fritsch> oki, so we have 2 de_DE and on en_US
[03:37] <fritsch> => there is a bug
[03:37] <abattoir> mcbuddha: you're welcome :)
[03:37] <fritsch> mmmh found one, without crahs
[03:37] <fritsch> grothesk: did you restart kdm since upgrade?
[03:38] <grothesk> I know of 2 other boxes crashing and one not crashing.
[03:38] <grothesk> All of them on Dapper kde 3.5.4 with de_DE
[03:38] <slavo> hi , how can i enable raw print (only text without formating) from kate or koffice ? now it sends postscript to my raw printer
[03:38] <gnomefreak> grothesk: is this default keyborad settings?
[03:38] <grothesk> fritsch: Sure, it did several reboots since then.
[03:38] <jott> so maybe its a config problem... although a bug anyway ;)
[03:38] <fritsch> grothesk: several?
[03:39] <fritsch> grothesk: Riddel made updates at 14:00
[03:39] <fritsch> Riddell: you got them?
[03:39] <jott> moving khotkeyrc does not help :/
[03:39] <grothesk> gnomefreak: I might have configured something in earlier versions of kde.
[03:39] <gnomefreak> jott: are you having same issue?
[03:39] <fritsch> I try with a complete new user
[03:39] <grothesk> Oh. I'll check for new packages then!
[03:39] <DaSkreech> start it with a URL?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> grothesk: kdelibs was an over night update for me within last 10 hours
[03:39] <gnomefreak> there were a few kde updates
[03:40] <grothesk> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main   <--- This repo?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:40] <jott> gnomefreak: yes
[03:41] <jott> gnomefreak: crash on the "command shortcuts" tab
[03:41] <gnomefreak> jott: can you provide a backtrace for me and paste it to pastebin so i can review the 2
[03:41] <grothesk> Switched back to kde-latest earlier that day.
[03:42] <jott> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19594 here you go
[03:42] <grothesk> gnomefreak: Did you see my backtrace?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> grothesk: yes and im gonna look at both
[03:43] <grothesk> Ah! New packages in kde-354
[03:43] <gnomefreak> ty jott
[03:43] <gnomefreak> jott: please update
[03:43] <grothesk> I'll upgrade them now.
[03:43] <grothesk> But it will take some time for me. ISDN-speed only...
[03:43] <grothesk> CU!
[03:45] <gnomefreak> Riddell: you here?
[03:45] <jott> gnomefreak: i think i have the latest packages..
[03:45] <gnomefreak> jott: please make sure
[03:45] <ricardo_> has anybody noticed slight deffects on fonts with kde 3.5.4?
[03:45] <Sho_> ricardo_: yes
[03:45] <jott> i did so ;) no updates available (from http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 )
[03:46] <ricardo_> Sho_: did you find a solution?
[03:46] <Sho_> ricardo_: Konsole will no longer use the bold weight of my size 9 Terminus font, for some reason. It's greyed out in the selection box, too. Worked in 3.5.3.
[03:46] <Sho_> ricardo_: And no, haven't found a solution yet sadly ..
[03:47] <ricardo_> Sho_: i've noticed defects when using adept for instance...
[03:49] <Sho_> Speaking of finding solutions, any update on the kderc problem with the Dapper packages?
[03:49] <Riddell> gnomefreak: hi
[03:49] <gnomefreak> good morning
[03:50] <gnomefreak> Riddell: i have 2 backtraces that look bad for libc.so.6. im assuming that is libc6. only and issue in dapper
[03:50] <gnomefreak> Riddell: this is keyboard settings in 3.5.4
[03:50] <Riddell> gnomefreak: from doing what?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> fritsch: can you explain what you guys were doing
[03:51] <fritsch> gnomefreak: wargh my bad english :-)
[03:51] <jott> Riddell: Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Tab: Command Shortcuts
[03:51] <fritsch> jott: crashes for you, too?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> Riddell: i got bits nad peices and its not reproducible in edgy
[03:51] <jott> fritsch: yes
[03:51] <fritsch> jott: please log out, restart kdm and recheck
[03:51] <jott> works for you now?
[03:51] <jott> hold on
[03:52] <fritsch> jott: just try, and give me 10 minutes to run away
[03:52] <LPby> http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389
[03:53] <fritsch> jott: working?
[03:53] <jott> fritsch: no still crashes
[03:53] <fritsch> kdm restarted?
[03:54] <jott> i use gdm.. so this should not be an problem
[03:54] <fritsch> jott: do ps aux |grep kded
[03:54] <jott> (and no process ran under my user account)
[03:54] <fritsch> jott: okay
[03:54] <fritsch> i restarted kdm and no more crash for me
[03:54] <fritsch> could you make a backtrace for riddell
[03:55] <jott> maybe i can try to reboot
[03:55] <jott> ..
[03:55] <fritsch> jott: okay, please try this first, and after that please make a backtrace for riddell
[03:56] <fritsch> grothesk: still crashing after reboot?
[03:56] <fritsch> grothesk: I just logged out, rebooted no more crashing here, but please try
[03:57] <gnomefreak> ok stepping out for a moment here are the 2 backtraces i have http://www.phpfi.com/136891 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19594
[03:58] <jott> still crashes here after reboot
[03:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Re everyone...
[03:58] <grothesk> fritsch: Still upgrading...
[03:58] <grothesk> I'm on a different box now.
[03:59] <fritsch> grothesk: okay, please try and report
[03:59] <trappist> is security.ubuntu.com having a bad day?
[03:59] <fritsch> trappist: working here
[04:00] <grothesk> Aye aye, Sir!
[04:00] <fritsch> jott: working?
[04:00] <grothesk> I do have another bug, maybe connected to the first one.
[04:00] <fritsch> grothesk: what is it? restarted kdm?
[04:00] <grothesk> Mousegestures do not work in konqueror.
[04:00] <fritsch> grothesk: how to reproduce?
[04:01] <grothesk> I used to use Mousegestures in konqueror.
[04:02] <jott> ok even crashes after reboot and moving .kde ......
[04:04] <jott> grothesk: gestures working here...
[04:04] <gnomefreak> is everything fixed after upgdates
[04:05] <fritsch> here, everything works, after restarting kdm
[04:05] <fritsch> gnomefreak: i think this was because of the new libs
[04:05] <jott> strange..
[04:05] <fritsch> gnomefreak: and not having loaded them
[04:06] <fritsch> jott: working?
[04:06] <jott> no
[04:06] <jott> wonder why it works for you ;)
[04:06] <fritsch> still not working for you?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> there was klibs upgraded and that has been biggest issue ive seen with 3.5.4
[04:06] <gnomefreak> osiris: backtrace again please
[04:06] <fritsch> jott: you did dist-upgrade?
[04:06] <fritsch> jott: after and apt-get update
[04:07] <jott> fritsch: yes..
[04:07] <osiris> thank you.  drive through
[04:07] <fritsch> jott: and logged out, reboot, restarted kdm
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> I am having issues with 3.5.4 on edgy and debian unstable (random lockups - that I have never had before) just stopped using anything kde related until its fixed
[04:07] <jott> fritsch: right ;)
[04:07] <fritsch> jott: apt-get -f install
[04:07] <fritsch> jott: some problems, perhaps not everything installed correctly
[04:08] <jott> i do a reinstall of kdebase-bin
[04:09] <fritsch> jott: try
[04:09] <fritsch> jott: but you should not have to do this
[04:11] <jott> at leasts thats the package with libkhotkeys in it that seemd to caused the crash ;)
[04:12] <jontec> How do I play mpg files in totem?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> jontec: i think you need w32codecs or maybe totem-xine
[04:13] <jott> oh, one note its a sig6 not a sig11 that caused the crash...
[04:13] <fritsch> jott: still crashing?
[04:13] <Martijn81> looks like 4.5.4 works fine here, what should *not* work?
[04:13] <jott> yes :(
[04:14] <Martijn81> * 3.5.4
[04:14] <jontec> gotcha, thanks
[04:14] <fritsch> mmmh, can you try with a "fresh" user account?
[04:14] <jott> Martijn81: try: Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Tab: Command Shortcuts
[04:14] <jott> in system settings
[04:14] <jott> fritsch: i already did move the .kde without success..
[04:15] <fritsch> mmh sorry, cannot reproduce it anymore
[04:15] <jott> strange enough ;)
[04:15] <fritsch> jott: wie can compare installed kde 3.5.4 packages
[04:15] <Martijn81> jott: yeah that crashes
[04:15] <fritsch> Martijn81: did you restart since update?
[04:16] <Martijn81> fritisch: yep
[04:16] <fritsch> mmh, mmh
[04:16] <fritsch> Martijn81: when did you upgrade?
[04:16] <Martijn81> 5 minutes ago
[04:16] <fritsch> Martijn81: did you get dependency problems of "file overwriting" while installing?
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> Martijn81: I am getting on average one hard lock a day (since 3.5.4 was installed)
[04:16] <fritsch> Martijn81: did dist-upgrade?
[04:17] <gplfighter> 3.5.4 was very buggy here
[04:17] <jott> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19597
[04:17] <Martijn81> dist-upgrade yes, i had to remove ktorrentRC1 and there was some package problem (put it in a text file), but with -f wit worked fine
[04:18] <fritsch> jott: dpkg --purge kdelibs-bin
[04:20] <grothesk> fritsch: Rebooting now.
[04:21] <jott> hmmmm.. its only systemsettings that crashes the tab kcontrol works
[04:21] <grothesk> jott: Yepp. Same here.
[04:22] <jott> so its more likely an systemsettings issue?!
[04:22] <grothesk> I think so.
[04:22] <fritsch> jott: mine: ii  kdelibs-data                  3.5.4-0ubuntu2
[04:22] <fritsch> jott: yours: kdelibs-data                  3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1
[04:22] <larson9999> nixternal: you making some kickass products like winternal?
[04:23] <jott> fritsch: whats your kde-systemsettings version?
[04:23] <grothesk> Now it is officially released for kubuntu... :-)
[04:23] <fritsch> jott: 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu1
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ummmmmmmm guys i have 3.5.4-0ubuntu3 ;)
[04:24] <fritsch> gnomefreak: where did you get this from *G*?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ;) it might be because of edgy (hence the reason i cant reproduce your complaints) the versions are different ;)
[04:24] <grothesk_> fritsch: Still crahes.
[04:25] <fritsch> grothesk: what is our kdelibs-data version?
[04:25] <grothesk_> kde-systemsettings: 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu1
[04:26] <fritsch> grothesk: kdelibs-data?
[04:26] <grothesk_> kdelibs-data 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1
[04:26] <fritsch> jott: installed your version now
[04:26] <fritsch> grothesk: okay this one i`m running now, too
[04:27] <fritsch> sorry had a mixture from yesterday
[04:27] <cotroler> wha is the latest version of kde?
[04:27] <Sho_> cotroler: KDE 3.5.4
[04:28] <fritsch> Sho_: see the topic
[04:28] <fritsch> just a mom, try tis version
[04:28] <grothesk_> cotroler: But currently we are figuring out some issues...
[04:28] <cotroler> what is the latest stable version then?
[04:28] <grothesk_> 3.5.4. *g*
[04:29] <grothesk_> Officially it is marked as stable.
[04:29] <tsdgeos> what does not work are "kubuntu" packages
[04:29] <tsdgeos> not 3.5.4 as it
[04:29] <cotroler> but is it good and stfuff?
[04:29] <egarim> X includes in which packages are ?
[04:29] <egarim> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:30] <Sho_> cotroler: Kubuntu presently advises against installing its KDE 3.5.4 packages.
[04:30] <grothesk_> But I would rather stick with 3.5.3, when you are using kubuntu packages.
[04:30] <tsdgeos> grothesk_: btw i just got new packages and the 3.5.4.php page does not advise against them
[04:30] <fritsch> grothesk: i am trying now
[04:30] <tsdgeos> so maybe the Riddell overlord fixed them already
[04:30] <fritsch> grothesk: no crash here
[04:30] <cotroler> so the best thing is 3.5.3 ?
[04:31] <grothesk_> tsdgeos: I just finished apt-get uprade some minutes ago, tsdgeos
[04:31] <Sho_> cotroler: Yes
[04:31] <fritsch> grothesk: when you installed kdebase-data, did it say sth. about dependency problems? wanting to overwrite sth.?
[04:31] <grothesk_> fritsch: No.
[04:31] <grothesk_> All went smooth.
[04:31] <fritsch> grothesk: cool :-)
[04:31] <Sho_> tsdgeos: http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README and ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu/README are still up, however
[04:32] <fritsch> Sho_: not more current anymore
[04:32] <fritsch> Sho_: this one is fixed
[04:33] <grothesk_> Wich package does contain kubuntus systemsettings?
[04:33] <fritsch> kubuntu-default-settings
[04:34] <grothesk_> kde-systemsettings it is...
[04:34] <fritsch> grothesk, sure?
[04:34] <Sho_> fritsch: Well, I'll just wait until that README says it's ready to go
[04:35] <fritsch> Sho_: mmmh, do so :-)
[04:35] <fritsch> Sho_: but thats fixed ...
[04:35] <fritsch> Sho_: Riddell just forgot to delete this one
[04:35] <gnomefreak> kde-systemsettings
[04:35] <fritsch> yes, have it installed, too
[04:36] <fritsch> gnomefreak: 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu1
[04:36] <gnomefreak> whats that?
[04:36] <Sho_> fritsch: Then I'll wait until he remembers :). Besides, you imply other problems.
[04:36] <fritsch> Sho_: yes there are some, but only for some
[04:36] <Hobbsee> hi Sho_!
[04:36] <fritsch> Sho_: all over it` s usable and there is a downgrade howto if it terribly failes
[04:37] <fritsch> Sho_: look at the topic of this channel
[04:37] <Sho_> yo Hobbsee
[04:38] <bepetemish> I got the "wine"  windows emulator how is the other callt?
[04:38] <Sho_> fritsch: Ah ... when I joined earlier it was still "broken in Dapper" :)
[04:38] <Hobbsee> Sho_: i believe it's mostly fixed
[04:38] <Hobbsee> doesnt seem to be broken in edgy, which is weird.
[04:38] <bepetemish> I got the "wine"  windows emulator how is the other callt?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> who uses dapper anyway :P
[04:38] <klerfayt> what is default chmod for /usr/bin/cdrecord - I can't use k3b anymore
[04:39] <alexicon> !amarok > alexicon
[04:39] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Dapper is your long-term supported release, dude ;)
[04:39] <fritsch> klerfayt: try the k3b settings assistant
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Sho_: shhhh :P
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Sho_: i'm waiting on the backports to open before i do much on it.
[04:39] <bepetemish> I got the "wine"  windows emulator how is the other callt?
[04:40] <fritsch> bepetemish: the commercial one?
[04:40] <fritsch> bepetemish: cedega? winex? crossover office?
[04:40] <mendred> Hobbsee: remember the grand experiment with the "wierd" backport repository for installing kaffeine 0.8?
[04:40] <mendred> well it worked alright :)
[04:40] <Hobbsee> mendred: not exaclty.  it was highly crackful?
[04:40] <klerfayt> fritsch: it doesn't help, just tell me what's your chmod for /usr/bin/cdrecord
[04:40] <Hobbsee> mendred: you havent tried a dist-upgrade yet :P
[04:41] <Hobbsee> !info kaffeine edgy
[04:41] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2087 kB, installed size 5264 kB
[04:41] <Hobbsee> yay
[04:41] <mendred> Hobbsee: yeah thats the one i am using
[04:41] <fritsch> klerfayt: her it is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-04-12 09:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord
[04:41] <fritsch> klerfayt: should not work eiter ;-)
[04:41] <Sho_> Hobbsee: For example, I'm unlikely to update my Dapper box to Edgy even if it comes out - it works, and Edgy won't offer anything that improves its performance in a meaningful way
[04:41] <bepetemish> fritsch: cedega tnx
[04:41] <mendred> Hobbsee: hehe will do a dist-upgrade in 3 yrs :)
[04:41] <Sho_> Hobbsee: So I'm counting on that long-term support ;)
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Sho_: hehe, fair enough.  i'm sure there will be, once they fix the mess that is soyuz and backports.
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Sho_: currently, nothing is backportable.  or close to nothing
[04:43] <mendred> Sho_: there is a "wierd" backport repo i am using :)
[04:43] <mendred> Sho_: it seems to work so far..but Hobbsee will warn u
[04:43] <mendred> Sho_ :that u shouldn't listen to me :)
[04:43] <Sho_> *g*
[04:43] <fritsch> klerfayt: it does not find mine either
[04:44] <martin_> #zbh
[04:44] <bepetemish> fritsch: do i really need to pay for cedega
[04:44] <fritsch> bepetemish: yes
[04:44] <Hobbsee> then eventually got a "oh, i'd installed this lib when i installed xgl, i think it was" - GAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
[04:44] <Hobbsee> why couldnt they have told us that *first*!
[04:44] <bepetemish> fritsch: do you know another one good for playing games?
[04:44] <larson9999> bepetemish: what are you trying to run?
[04:44] <mendred> Hobbsee:  Good point support would be a nightmare :)
[04:44] <Hobbsee> mendred: exactly.  and who do you think sees most of the bug reports :P
[04:44] <bepetemish> larson9999: im trying to run hitman blood money
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: :-) Consumers may be right but users are often wrong ;-)
[04:45] <klerfayt> fritsch: it all started then I discovered I cant' burn cd's. Then I messed with chmod and then k3bsetup and still nothing
[04:45] <larson9999> bepetemish: oh, too new a game for me
[04:45] <fritsch> klerfayt: i just put my cd drive out - put it in again -> working
[04:45] <mendred> Hobbsee: Relax i never file such bug reports..i usually track them and fix them myself
[04:45] <fritsch> klerfayt: *G* dont do it while running, here it works because of ultra bay
[04:45] <bepetemish> larson9999: what do you use to play games?
[04:45] <fritsch> klerfayt: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-08-03 16:43 hdc
[04:46] <Hobbsee> mendred: hehe, right.  it's just the other users that do
[04:46] <mendred> Hobbsee: I will keep that in mind before recommending "crackful" repos
[04:46] <fritsch> klerfayt: now its working
[04:47] <mendred> Sheesh what a term :)
[04:47] <Hobbsee> mendred: :)
[04:47] <Hobbsee> mendred: hehe
[04:47] <Hobbsee> mendred: i swear, some of the stuff i've seen is so utterly crackful it's amazing.
[04:48] <mendred> Hobbsee: bug reports u mean?
[04:48] <larson9999> bepetemish: i play old dos games that run on dosemu or dosbox, scummvm, mame, or other emulators, or games that run in linux natively.  the linux game tomb is where i get most of the newer games i play.  i prefer not to try to get windows apps running on my pc.  the only exception i have right now is dvdshrink and accessing shockwave or flash 8 sites via wine and ff
[04:48] <Hobbsee> mendred: or things in the repos.
[04:48] <bugunu> hi, does anyone know about the adept weird way of multi"tasking" or so? if applying some changes and while on Downloading the packages one goes back to Show Package List and marks one or more packages to install then there will be two /usr/lib/apt/methods/http and they seem to download the same first package or somehow invalidate it after it is done, it get with the .FAILED extension ; i dno maybe the two https are like this: the first tries to get the frist 
[04:48] <bugunu> s to get the first and the second packages (since this is what I see just prior to applying changes the second time when I look at Preview Changes)
[04:48] <bugunu> :-"
[04:48] <mendred> Hobbsee: u make it sound like a horror movie :O
[04:49] <Hobbsee> mendred: some of the stuff i wince over.  really.  and i have seen some stupid bug reports, too.
[04:49] <Hobbsee> mendred: including "the artwork is terrible, hire some artists, and fix it"
[04:49] <mendred> Hobbsee: forgive them for they donot know what they do
[04:49] <bepetemish> larson9999: so you know how wine works
[04:50] <Hobbsee> mendred: hehe...yeah...
[04:50] <klerfayt> my adept_updater is stuck at "Waiting for headers 99%" - what should I do?
[04:50] <fritsch> klerfayt: thtas okay
[04:50] <fritsch> klerfayt: just let him 5 minutes
[04:50] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: stuck on slow security repos, most likely  just wait
[04:50] <larson9999> bepetemish: kinda.  actually, the way i setup wine some consider blaspheme.  i use wine-tools.
[04:50] <fritsch> klerfayt: security ubuntu is a bit slow
[04:50] <bepetemish> larson9999: i want to play an older game.. i know i can get in wine with    winecfg   so i add the game and then what?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> fritsch: in dapper too?
[04:51] <klerfayt> well, usually update is fast
[04:51] <larson9999> bepetemish: what is the older game you want to play?
[04:51] <klerfayt> ok it ended and last thing had error
[04:51] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Zork :)
[04:51] <fritsch> gnomefreak: slowness of apt?
[04:51] <fritsch> gnomefreak: yes slow tehre
[04:51] <gnomefreak> fritsch: the security repos
[04:51] <larson9999> DaSkreech: use zink for zork
[04:51] <fritsch> gnomefreak: need a long time, but are working
[04:51] <bepetemish> larson9999: its callt Gunz: The Duel
[04:52] <mendred> klerfayt: did it time out?
[04:52] <larson9999> DaSkreech: actually for all the zlib(is that right?) infocom games
[04:52] <klerfayt> I do not know but 2nd try worked
[04:52] <mendred> klerfayt: cool :)
[04:53] <klerfayt> then it dloads "linux-image" - is it recommended to reboot?
[04:53] <bepetemish> larson9999: its callt Gunz: The Duel
[04:53] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:54] <grothesk_> klerfayt: This is a kernel update. Please reboot afterwards!
[04:54] <larson9999> bepetemish: hang on
[04:54] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[04:54] <fritsch> gnomefreak: ist this because of the people pulling kde-354 from the server?
[04:54] <bepetemish> larson9999: ok
[04:54] <klerfayt> grothesk: why doesn't adept say it?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> no
[04:55] <larson9999> bepetemish: this one? http://www.gunzonline.com/
[04:55] <grothesk> I don't know. I did not code adept...
[04:55] <bepetemish> larson9999: yes that one and then the international edition
[04:57] <larson9999> bepetemish: i feel old.  that's not an older game to me
[04:58] <bepetemish> larson9999: ow... well for me is XD
[04:58] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: you got a sec?
[04:59] <larson9999> bepetemish: heck it needs dx 9.  well, i'll see if i can get it running
[04:59] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: sure
[04:59] <klerfayt> adept is kde application? then why doesn't it respect my kde style settings and still animates progress bar?
[04:59] <bepetemish> larson9999: ok
[04:59] <Sho_> Hm, could any of you packaging experts tell me how I could prevent apt from updating the kernel packages?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i'm just patching kwin-style-crystal
[05:00] <Hobbsee> !pin
[05:00] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[05:00] <Hobbsee> Sho_: ^
[05:00] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: whats the chances of adding a k-www-browser of something of the sort to update-alternatives?
[05:00] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Cool, thanks
[05:00] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: didnt know it was broken
[05:00] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: likely makes more sense to make kde read/write to x-www-browser, when it sets the automatic browser.
[05:01] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: the problem ther eis i have ff set because it works everywhere but on kde and its getting kind of old c+p'ing links to a browser (btw thunderbird dont work in kde either)
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: Just change the default browser in kcontrol - and add the 2 lines to prefs.js
[05:03] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ahhh...what's the default browser in kcontrol?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> where is kcontrol?
[05:05] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: alt+f2, kcontrol.  not on the kmenu, to answer the question
[05:06] <abattoir> gnomefreak: Alt+F2->kcontrol->KDE components->Default Applications
[05:07] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if this works
[05:07] <gnomefreak> test = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19597
[05:08] <gnomefreak> even setting it there it still opens ff
[05:08] <simp> hello, can i install kubuntu from the hard drive?
[05:08] <ricardo> hey guys ..i would like to know which repositorie you use to keep conky updated...
[05:09] <zappix> Simp: Wha?
[05:09] <zappix> Simp: You burn the Kubuntu iso to a blank CD
[05:09] <simp> well can you install it from the hard drive like with windows
[05:09] <zappix> Simp: You then put the CD in your CD-ROM drive, and let it load
[05:09] <simp> yeah but i don't have a burner in this pc
[05:09] <zappix> Simp: ......you can't install an operating system when there is another operating system running.
[05:10] <zappix> Simp: Try getting a friend to burn it. That's how I got mine.
[05:10] <simp> no i didn't mean like that... you have another hard drive
[05:10] <simp> which contains the install
[05:10] <zappix> Simp: Windows has to be installed via CD aswell o_O
[05:10] <simp> nope
[05:10] <zappix> Kubuntu is installed via live-CD
[05:10] <zappix> The CD runs Kubuntu
[05:10] <zappix> and you install Kubuntu running Kubuntu off of the CD
[05:10] <simp> 1. i don't have enaught ram for this live thingy that is new...
[05:10] <simp> and
[05:11] <simp> no cd
[05:11] <simp> so can it install from the hdd
[05:11] <zappix> Then....you can either buy one or get someone to burn it.
[05:11] <rulz> somebody help me im not able to compile any packages it says "in the prefix you have chosen are no kde headers installed " i have kubuntu lts 6.06 plzzzzzzzz
[05:11] <zappix> n0.
[05:11] <simp> from another hdd or another partition
[05:11] <simp> not from the OS
[05:11] <zappix> No.
[05:11] <zappix> You see
[05:11] <simp> sure?
[05:11] <zappix> If you installed it from another partion
[05:11] <bepetemish> larson9999: what are you doing now?
[05:11] <zappix> You'd have to format the hard-drive on install
[05:11] <zappix> which would wipe all the installation files
[05:12] <zappix> XD
[05:12] <simp> you don't have to format the hole hdd
[05:12] <simp> you can just format one partition
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: here is a page open in firefox http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19604   here is the page seperate http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19597
[05:12] <zappix> well the partion, I know.
[05:12] <abattoir> hmmm... not sure if there is an option to install from an iso in kubuntu...
[05:12] <gnomefreak> just so someone else can see what i mean :(
[05:12] <larson9999> bepetemish: i think that's going to need more work than i usually put into getting a game to run.  but there does seem to be a way to get it to work wine in.  just looking for a site that details how.
[05:12] <simp> and i'm talking about abother hdd to run the install from zappix
[05:13] <zappix> okay
[05:13] <zappix> Simp: The installer is a program for Linux / Unix /whatever based operating systems
[05:13] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: um, okay?
[05:13] <larson9999> bepetemish: and fielding calls from recruiters.  the market must have picked up because as soon as i put down the phone another one is bugging me
[05:13] <zappix> You're not going to be able to install it while running anything non-linux
[05:13] <zappix> You HAVE to be in Kubuntu to install it.
[05:14] <simp> no i didn't mean running something non-linux
[05:14] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: is it a ff or kde bug (ff works well everywhere else
[05:14] <simp> i meant booting from the hdd
[05:14] <ninHer> hi all
[05:14] <simp> boot the kubuntu files
[05:14] <bepetemish> larson9999: well im going offline now.. gonna chance to windows now(dual boot) so maiby i talk to you later. I wrote your name down and will contact you the next time im here ok?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no idea at the moment...
[05:14] <gnomefreak> k
[05:14] <zappix> Simp: Not sure how to boot from a different hdd/partion than one with an operating system on it
[05:14] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i'm assuming you mean teh blue stuff at the bottom?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> no
[05:15] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i mean all the text not showing up
[05:15] <simp> zappix that is easy
[05:15] <gnomefreak> and i cant get default browser to change without changing update-alternatives   (i guess i found some work) lol
[05:16] <larson9999> bepetemish: sure
[05:16] <simp> zappix: and you could install redhat without any real cd... download the stuff while installing :)
[05:16] <bepetemish> larson9999: bye
[05:16] <zappix> Hm
[05:17] <zappix> Don't know =P
[05:17] <zappix> simp: You can try it I guess...
[05:17] <l1nux> hi
[05:17] <zappix> But if it doesn't work don't complain to me XD
[05:17] <gnomefreak> !install
[05:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:17] <gnomefreak> ^^ theres a list of how to install
[05:17] <rulz> where are the kde headers in kubuntu?
[05:18] <zappix> THAT works too
[05:18] <zappix> XP
[05:19] <zappix> Okay now my problem. When I go to a site like Photobucket, or a forum, and have to upload something, I keep getting  "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read only file system"
[05:19] <l1nux> possible add some apps like mplayer linux-image... in apt blacklist, to not upgrade ?
[05:19] <l1nux> or eny other idea ?
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> rulz: if you install kde-devel (meta-package) you will get most (all ?) of what you need
[05:20] <zappix> Anyone have an idea? :S
[05:21] <zappix> Waoh
[05:21] <zappix> okay
[05:21] <zappix> Whenever I go to access my folders in Konquerer I get the message
[05:22] <zappix> Should I just try restarting? o_O
[05:27] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Hmm, the 3.5.4 update wants to install KSirc ;)
[05:27] <tilix> hi. Are there any known problems with i810 video ?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> Sho_: it does in dapper?  i'm not in control of that :P
[05:28] <tilix> because the resolution stays at 1600x1200, the control center module doesn`t work
[05:28] <supernix> I don't know why but after the latest update of firefox I cant get it to work with my banks login
[05:28] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Yes, in Dapper
[05:28] <Bragi> Is there a tool to change the voltage of my cpu fans? (ASUS CUV4X-D,VIA Chip,SMP)
[05:28] <supernix> You click on the button that usually opens a new window to login and it just does nothing now but it was working before
[05:29] <Hobbsee> Sho_: interesting.  you'd have to ask Riddell about that
[05:29] <tilix> and a silly question: how to get if my PC is 64-bit? I don`t know the configuration, because I get it from a sponsor for my project
[05:29] <tilix> BIOS says "64-bit supported"
[05:30] <zappix> okay
[05:30] <zappix> A quick reboot solved the proble
[05:30] <zappix> m
[05:32] <Riddell> Sho_: you're not a fan of ksirc?  that programme contains my first ever KDE patch I'll have you know
[05:33] <Sho_> Riddell: I'm just wondering why you need both Konversation and KSirc installed ;)
[05:33] <Riddell> Sho_: there's nothing depending on ksirc except kdenetwork
[05:33] <grothesk_> Riddell: kde 3.5.4 systemsettings is still a little bit rough.
[05:33] <StFS> hello... I'm trying to upgrade to the KDE 3.5.4 packages but I'm unable to upgrade kdelibs4c2a because it depends on libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1)... I only have 1.2.0 of libcupsys2... anyone know if this is known or what?
[05:34] <Riddell> grothesk_: it's not changed, not being part of KDE
[05:34] <grothesk_> .k
[05:34] <Riddell> StFS: you need dapper-updates
[05:34] <Riddell> StFS: sorry, I should have put that on the webpage
[05:34] <StFS> dapper-updates?
[05:34] <StFS> Riddell: ahh I get it ;)
[05:35] <StFS> Riddell: hey don't be sorry... just many thanks for your great work on these packages :)
[05:35] <grothesk_> Riddell: An what about mousegestures?
[05:36] <blueyed> Riddell: thanks for fixing the KDE 3.5.4 packages - http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is not updated yet.
[05:36] <Riddell> grothesk_: what about it?
[05:37] <Riddell> blueyed: have you tried the packages?
[05:37] <grothesk_> Since 3.5.4 they do not work anymore, Riddell
[05:37] <blueyed> Riddell: no, but the warning is gone..?!
[05:37] <grothesk_> Even default gestures are empty in kcontrol/systemsettings
[05:37] <blueyed> Riddell: should I still wait?
[05:38] <Riddell> blueyed: no, you should try them and if they work I'll update the link
[05:39] <zappix> Hey, anyone know of like a really good program that can run alot of Windows programs AND DRIVERS?
[05:39] <zappix> Or just Drivers, or programs?
[05:39] <zappix> I really need something to run my 802.11g USB adapter :P
[05:40] <grothesk_> zappix: No go for windows drivers in linux (exept WLAN by ndiswrapper)
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> zappix: ndiswrapper - use the latest version
[05:41] <DaSkreech> zappix: I know one!
[05:41] <zappix> Grothesk: NDISWrapper won't work with my driver it seems
[05:42] <grothesk_> zappix: Then go and get reasonable hardware.
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> zappix: Use the recommended driver for your chipset
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> zappix: And the absolute latest version of ndiswrapper
[05:42] <Riddell> grothesk_: don't know about mouse gestures I'm afraid, guess they broke
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> zappix: Then if it still doesn't work ask in #ndiswrapper
[05:43] <zappix> okay
[05:43] <zappix> thanks
[05:43] <grothesk_> Riddell: I'll crosscheck my kde-installation with a new user.
[05:43] <angasule> is anyone else having trouble updating?
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> zappix: Read the links in the top of the channel first (and make sure you are using the latest version) or you may get flamed (If you haven't read they may not be patient)
[05:44] <blueyed> angasule: what problems do you have?
[05:44] <zappix> Yse. :P
[05:45] <angasule> both in the semi-automated updater and in adept, when I 'fetch updates', it reaches 99% and then remains there, the application is responsive, though, I can click cancel, etc
[05:46] <angasule> "waiting for headers (99%)", and nothing happens
[05:46] <blueyed> angasule: the server's may be too busy, depending on your repos. Just wait or try "sudo apt-get update" on the console instead.
[05:46] <gnomefreak> angasule: known issue just wait it out
[05:46] <enzo> angasule, I had the same issue. I just let it do its thing in the background
[05:46] <angasule> ah, ok, it has been happening for a few hours
[05:47] <adam__> for some reason mp3 and wma tracks don't play 4 me in amorok or kaffeine. help plz? (i'm new to linux)
[05:48] <tsdgeos> !mp3
[05:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <adam__> but audio CD do
[05:55] <adam__> "please use free formats" but what about youtube and other internet suff that use mp3 and wma?
[05:57] <mendred> adam_: the restrictedformats links tells u how to go about installing mp3/wma support
[05:58] <mendred> its not too hard
[06:00] <damien_> Hi, I just noticed on the web site that kde 3.5.4 was released but http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is still pointing to 3.5.3 packages, has it just not been updated yet?
[06:00] <larson9999> adam__: boycott them and write letters.  the only way to get companies to chose and make stuff that is linux compatible is to show them they'll lose users otherwise
[06:00] <larson9999> just my view
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> The number of users they will lose is in significant to them (or they would change)
[06:02] <trappist> also we could make more free formats that don't suck
[06:03] <blueyed> damien_: yes, I've asked this also already. If it works out ok for us, we should notice Riddell and he updates it.
[06:03] <stephan_> hi
[06:03] <blueyed> trappist: yes, e.g. using not the same extension for video and audio (ogg).. :/
[06:04] <stephan_> i updated with the bad kde update packackes, befor the warning was out, what can i do to fix that
[06:04] <DaSkreech> trappist: How many suck?
[06:04] <damien_> Ok thanks blueyed
[06:05] <trappist> DaSkreech: ogg is the only free format/codec I know of that's better than its proprietary counterpart
[06:05] <DaSkreech> It's not a codec
[06:05] <stephan_> somethin seem to work, i added the apt source form kubuntu.org and removed that one from kde.org
[06:05] <stephan_> no i want to update a lot of packages
[06:06] <trappist> DaSkreech: it involves a codec.  just like mp3.
[06:06] <stephan_> now
[06:06] <blueyed> Riddell: umbrello is broken: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" (/var/cache/apt/archives/kaudiocreator_4%3a3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1_i386.deb)
[06:06] <zappix> Hrm
[06:06] <zappix> configure: error: no suitable lex found. Please install the 'flex' package.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> trappist: mp3 can be put in a ogg
[06:07] <zappix> Where do I get the "flex" package? ;-;
[06:07] <DaSkreech> trappist: You can't put an ogg in an mp3 :-)
[06:07] <trappist> DaSkreech: ok then s/ogg/vorbis/
[06:07] <blueyed> zappix: apt-get install flex
[06:07] <blueyed> it's in "main"
[06:07] <entropy> hi all, i've managed to break my kdm login somehow, can anyone suggest how i can fix it? trying to login via kdm simply restarts X goes back to kdm-login screen. i can get into kde by doing a 'xinit
[06:07] <DaSkreech> xvid?
[06:07] <zappix> ah
[06:07] <zappix> thanks
[06:08] <zappix> Blueyed: thanks
[06:08] <trappist> DaSkreech: the new Real stuff makes xvid look ghetto
[06:08] <blueyed> zappix: too easy, eh?.. ;)
[06:08] <entropy> from my logs: kdm_greet[5072] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[06:08] <DaSkreech> trappist: cause it's new :)
[06:08] <Riddell> blueyed: got the full error?
[06:08] <trappist> DaSkreech: even old divx stuff beats xvid for most purposes
[06:09] <DaSkreech> png :)
[06:09] <stephan_> trappist: you don't know what you are saying
[06:09] <stephan_> xvid is one of the best
[06:09] <trappist> DaSkreech: ok png
[06:09] <_[UniteD] _> hi
[06:10] <DaSkreech> So we have covered audio video and images
[06:10] <_[UniteD] _> i have 1 question
[06:10] <DaSkreech> That's pretty much all you need :)
[06:10] <trappist> DaSkreech: we lost on video, and we've only covered lossless image compression
[06:10] <_[UniteD] _> which basic tools do i need if i want to compile from source ?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> png is lossless?
[06:11] <trappist> pretty sure
[06:11] <the-mouse> ih, everyone, can some one tell me how to make Konqueror makes a preview of graphical files when asking to overwrite
[06:11] <_[UniteD] _> gcc and what else
[06:11] <enzo> _[UniteD] _, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <trappist> DaSkreech: just doublechecked.  yes.
[06:11] <stephan_> _[UniteD] _: apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <_[UniteD] _> thanks
[06:11] <DaSkreech> trappist: Funny alway thought it was lossy
[06:11] <blueyed> Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/113457 (kaudiocreator error)
[06:12] <trappist> DaSkreech: no, that's why pngs are so much bigger and better-looking than jpgs
[06:15] <ricardo> hi...how do u play wma files in firefox?
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> Use the mplayer-mozilla plugin ? (I think that can do wma but I just open the link in amarok)
[06:16] <supernix> anyone else having issues with the repositories ?
[06:16] <trappist> ricardo: mplayer can play them, so presumably the mplayer-mozilla plugin can do it
[06:16] <trappist> supernix: yes
[06:16] <the-mouse> hi, everyone, can someone tell me how to make Konqueror makes a preview of graphical files when asking to overwrite
[06:16] <trappist> the-mouse: I'd like to know that one too
[06:17] <adam__> wut does waiting for headers mean in Adept Manager?
[06:17] <trappist> the-mouse: I use gimv when I'm going to be doing a lot of that stuff.  it does previews.
[06:17] <trappist> adam__: it's downloading updated package lists, and the repos are hurting right now, so it's slow (if it works at all)
[06:18] <gnomefreak> whats the biggest difference between superkarmaba and karamba?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> trappist: Ok list the propietary formats that need to be beaten
[06:18] <mhterres> hey guys
[06:18] <the-mouse> gimp?
[06:18] <mhterres> anybody here is using KDE 3.5.4 ?
[06:18] <ricardo> trappist: it doesnt work....
[06:18] <ricardo> mhterres: me!
[06:18] <mhterres> I'm having troubles with it
[06:18] <supernix> hmmm I see a kernel image update
[06:18] <supernix> Is that safe ?
[06:18] <the-mouse> is there s .4 version???
[06:19] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: One wears glasses
[06:19] <ricardo> mhterres: could you be more specific?
[06:19] <mhterres> my "tray area" disappear
[06:19] <mhterres> :-)
[06:19] <gnomefreak> lol DaSkreech
[06:19] <ricardo> mhterres:  you have reinitiate the kicker..
[06:19] <zappix> o_O
[06:20] <ricardo> mhterres: delete kickerrc file..
[06:20] <zappix> WINE takes awhile to compile
[06:20] <supernix> trappist: is there anything unsafe about applying the kernel image update ?
[06:20] <blueyed> Riddel: "apt-get install -f" has fixed the problem (kaudiocreator error)
[06:20] <ricardo> mhterres: and the write kicker in the konsole
[06:20] <supernix> ie it wont break anything or leave it unbootable will it ?
[06:20] <blueyed> zappix: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main :)
[06:21] <mhterres> ok
[06:21] <ricardo> mhterres: kickerrc is in home/you/.kde/share/config
[06:21] <mhterres> ok
[06:21] <trappist> supernix: no idea what changes have been made, but generally it's safer to do it than not to do it
[06:22] <supernix> lol ok
[06:22] <mhterres> and the write kicker in the konsole - I don't understand
[06:22] <trappist> DaSkreech: flash and realvideo are the first things that come to mind
[06:22] <ricardo> write: kicker , in the terminal (konsole)
[06:22] <supernix> I just wondered I knew a long time ago I was holding off because the kernel update that many moons ago would have broken USB support but we are talking years ago
[06:22] <ricardo> to launch kicker ..a new kickerrc file will be created...
[06:23] <supernix> should I close all the programs before I start the update ?
[06:23] <ricardo> mhterres: but you will have reconfigure your desktop...
[06:23] <jan1024188> hi all
[06:23] <jan1024188> is there anybody who use knoppix from usb stick key
[06:23] <trappist> supernix: were you maybe running an unstable version of your distro?  also, sometimes the kernel guys (and everybody else) make mistakes, but they release new kernels for stable distros only when there's a very good reason, and they do a lot of testing
[06:23] <DaSkreech> trappist: Yeah Flash but .. I'm not sure what makes Flash technically superior
[06:24] <mhterres> ricardo: how ?
[06:24] <ricardo> trappist: mplayer plugin is already installed but it doesnt work....
[06:24] <trappist> DaSkreech: technically superior to what?  I don't know that there is a free alternative at all
[06:24] <DaSkreech> trappist: There isn't any alternative free or not
[06:24] <ricardo> mhterres:  how what?
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Why do people use it?
[06:24] <draik> mhterres, K menu > System > Konsole
[06:24] <supernix> trappist: I can't recall seems like I was running libranix or something like Mandrake linux
[06:25] <trappist> DaSkreech: because it's awesome
[06:25] <draik> mhterres, then type       kicker
[06:25] <DaSkreech> trappist: Ha ha Maybe now but for the yeas between version 0.8 and 6 it was a pain
[06:25] <trappist> supernix: I was on the mandrake security team for a while, and I do remember us making a big oopsie on a kernel update once
[06:25] <trappist> DaSkreech: true, because it's not free
[06:25] <supernix> lol everyone makes mistakes sometimes
[06:26] <DaSkreech> trappist: No because it held out a promise without actually fulfilling
[06:27] <buz> anyone running kde 3.5.4 and experiencing issues with kaddressbook?
[06:27] <trappist> DaSkreech: because open source hackers couldn't get their hands on it to fix it.  they had limited resources.
[06:27] <jan1024188> is there anybody who use knoppix from usb stick key
[06:27] <jan1024188> ???????????????????????????????
[06:27] <zappix> WINE is still compiling XD
[06:28] <dognews> hi
[06:28] <dognews> I have got 8313 photos and I want to sort them out with a programm on kubuntu
[06:28] <DaSkreech> trappist: Well if it was at that point a really persuasive situation that people wanted I think that one would have come up
[06:29] <DaSkreech> trappist: I'll chat to the good people at mozilla about it :)
[06:29] <firephoto> did xinerama support break with 3.5.4? my windows aren't opening on the display with mouse anymore
[06:29] <dognews> do you know any good programms which are very fast to handle (e.g. setting labels with shortcuts etc.) - I mainly want to use my keyboard (not the mouse)
[06:29] <poningru> dognews: what do you mean sort?
[06:29] <poningru> DaSkreech: sorry?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> You are?
[06:29] <trappist> firephoto: from what I'm hearing, the 3.5.4 packages aren't really ready to go yet.  I'm holding off.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> What about?
[06:30] <dognews> poningru: e.g. putting a label "tree" on all the pictures with trees and another label "animals" on all pictures with animals...
[06:30] <trappist> dognews: I use gimv for photo management.  dunno how good it is with keyboard shorcuts though.
[06:30] <aliasfred> dognews: depending on your meaning of sorting, there is a kde apps which does that very well
[06:30] <aliasfred> i dont remember the name tho :)
[06:31] <aliasfred> let me look
[06:31] <trappist> gwenview?
[06:32] <aliasfred> i just remember this was pure kde and that the homepage got screencast for demo
[06:32] <trappist> kimdaba
[06:32] <aliasfred> http://www.kphotoalbum.org/videos/
[06:32] <aliasfred> trappist: damn all those to handle photo ? :)
[06:33] <aliasfred> in anycase kphotoalbum is the one i remmbered
[06:33] <trappist> also kuickshow
[06:33] <aliasfred> http://www.kphotoalbum.org/videos/tour2.html is the demo about 'how easy it is to annotate photos'
[06:34] <guille> hi?
[06:34] <trappist> yes, hi.
[06:34] <guille> I have a quick question
[06:34] <theresa> hi
[06:34] <guille> qhat program do u recommend me to read .iso .bin & other image files?
[06:34] <soulrider> hi everyone
[06:35] <theresa> anyone else having problems with Adept Updater today?
[06:35] <draik> read or burn?
[06:35] <guille> only read
[06:35] <guille> I used in win the daemon tools
[06:35] <draik> theresa, just give it time. Its a big sluggish
[06:35] <draik> *bit sluggish
[06:36] <theresa> drak: thank you, it started to worry me, but now i'm relieved ;)
[06:36] <draik> hello soulrider
[06:36] <draik> theresa, sure np
[06:37] <trappist> guille: mount an iso like so: sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /mnt/point - convert bin/cue to iso using bchunk.
[06:37] <theresa> kubuntu's real fun, i'm glad i've switched over ;)
[06:38] <__osh____> which is the "dapper updates" repository?
[06:38] <kubuntutaotao> theresa: but i want to go lfs.:)
[06:39] <mhterres> great, works :-D
[06:39] <__osh____> I only seem to have a deb-src with the line dapper-updates in it. Is that enough to update to kde3.5.4?
[06:39] <mhterres> thks guys
[06:40] <guille> trappist: is bchunk already installed in kubuntu?
[06:40] <kubuntutaotao> __osh____: must not be able to
[06:40] <__osh____> kubuntutaotao: huh? was that sentence cut short?
[06:41] <dognews> thanx everyone :)
[06:41] <dognews> I'm looking at "kimdaba" at the moment and it seems to be a very nice tool :D
[06:41] <kubuntutaotao> __osh____: what's your meaning?
[06:41] <trappist> guille: probably not.  sudo apt-get install bchunk.
[06:42] <guille> yup, i'm installing it :)
[06:43] <kubuntutaotao> dognews: please write a article to us.:)
[06:43] <dognews> kubuntutaotao: what do you mean with "artcile"?
[06:44] <kubuntutaotao> dognews: sorry,a article about kimdaba
[06:47] <guille> trappist: in what mode should I use bchunk? I wrote "bchunk "the bin file" "the cue file"" but it didn't create an iso file :S
[06:47] <hsn_> how can i make screenshot from kubuntu desktop?
[06:47] <grothesk> hsn_: With ksnapshot
[06:47] <kosh> ksnapshot
[06:47] <grothesk> Or press the print key
[06:47] <dognews> hsn_: press the "Print Screen" button on your keyboard ;)
[06:48] <mark___> how do i get my ca0106 to reapparate in the volume control?
[06:48] <theresa> kubuntutaotao: want to go lfs??
[06:48] <dognews> kubuntutaotao: you want to hear my experiences with it? the possible ways of using it? how you have to use it? or what? ... ;)
[06:49] <epyh> i'm having troubles with annoying lines going thru toolbar in gtk applications like firefox, how can i get rid of these?
[06:49] <theresa> kubuntutaotao: whats lfs?
[06:49] <raina> hi
[06:49] <kubuntutaotao> theresa: DIY a Linux system
[06:49] <mark___> is that only me or does " www.alsa-project.org " not respond?
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> dognews: yeah.i hope you tell me some message
[06:50] <theresa> kubuntutaotao: where can i get it?
[06:50] <dognews> mark___: alsa-project.org not responding here, too :(
[06:51] <kubuntutaotao> theresa: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[06:51] <mark___> dammit :(
[06:51] <dhq> i just installed lighttpd  i need it to point to my local directory how do i do it
[06:52] <kubuntutaotao> dognews: i wonder what kimdaba is.:)
[06:52] <psynth> Tried boinc and now my screen savers wont start ? anyone have a clue ?
[06:53] <grothesk> kimdaba? kde image data base
[06:53] <markE> is there a way i can see the manual from ww.alsa-project.org cause i saw it this morning?
[06:53] <theresa> kubuntutaotao: thank you!
[06:53] <kubuntutaotao> theresa: :)
[06:53] <dognews> kubuntutaotao: what about just looking at http://ktown.kde.org/kphotoalbum/ ;)
[06:53] <trappist> guille: `man bchunk`
[06:53] <dognews> kbuntuaotao: there is also a nice tut on http://ktown.kde.org/kphotoalbum/kimdaba-doc/en/doc-one-page/
[06:53] <kubuntutaotao> qrothesk:thank you
[06:54] <dognews> mark___: what about the google cache version? http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:TcHGjdnOmAEJ:www.alsa-project.org/+&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
[06:54] <dognews> mark___:it's not very new (27 Jul 2006 01:08:57) but there seems to be some content ;)
[06:57] <JabberWokky> Anybody think a 2 gig usb key can host an installion of Kubuntu + fairly standard office apps?  Or should I go to 4 or 8 gig?  (My SO's IT department stinks, and she doesn't want to haul her laptop in every day when there's a computer with Red Hat on her desk).
[06:58] <kubuntutaotao> theresa: do you feel interested with lfs? i feel interested very much,but i don't try it out now.
[06:59] <kubuntutaotao> dognews: ok,i am looking at the site
[07:00] <theresa> kubuntutaotao: well, to be honest, i'm an absolute noob when it comes to linux, i've just moved from windows to kubuntu, and i pretty much like it...so I see no reason, yet, to upgrade from kubuntu to LFS...maybe one day though ;)
[07:01] <Martijn81> anyone knows of a ubuntu package for asteriks?
[07:01] <danl> anyone else having problems with adept getting stuck waiting for headers?
[07:01] <zan> upgrade from kubuntu to LFS? what is LFS?
[07:02] <theresa> LFS = Linux from scratch
[07:02] <JabberWokky> zan: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[07:02] <theresa> danl: yeah, me too!
[07:02] <theresa> danl: what are the packages that you're having problems with?
[07:02] <zan> danl: nope... mine finally starts finishes the work :D
[07:02] <Martijn81> danl: yeah me too, try it a few times and it will work eventually (at least here)
[07:03] <danl> was attempting to install the g++, build-essentail, and kdebase-dev stuff so i could compile this theme :(
[07:03] <danl> lol
[07:03] <kubuntutaotao> theresa: understand linux from kubuntu,it is good.maybe one day you can see my think.:0
[07:03] <zan> danl: mybe there is a conflict... like between kdmtheme and kcoltrol-kdmtheme :D... is it? does he print a message? that there was an error? it doesn't say why!
[07:04] <zan> is linux from scratch better?
[07:04] <danl> no conflict, it just gets stuck waiting for headers
[07:04] <kosh> I don't think that lfs is worth it to deal with
[07:04] <danl> did it on some packages earlier
[07:04] <kosh> and if you compile all the packages yourself then maintenance for security is a LOT higher
[07:05] <matt___> are there mirrors for security updates?
[07:05] <danl> lfs = gentoo, but even more of a pain
[07:05] <zan> is it based on gentoo?
[07:06] <unstablesob> are there mirrors for security updates?
[07:06] <kosh> it is not based on gentoo
[07:06] <grothesk> Riddell: kde 3.5.4 works now, except for kde-systemsettings and the kfmclient links being broken.
[07:06] <Riddell> grothesk: what's up with system settings?
[07:07] <grothesk> systemsettings is still crashing.
[07:07] <Riddell> grothesk: everywhere?
[07:07] <danl> i was just saying it's kinda like if you do a ground up install of gentoo, you compile everything
[07:07] <Riddell> or just that one?
[07:07] <ccc_> grothesk: works fine here
[07:07] <Riddell> ccc_: KDe 3.5.4?
[07:07] <kosh> have you logged out and logged in again?
[07:07] <grothesk> systemsettings crash even as an new user.
[07:08] <grothesk> But i copied over hotkeysrc so my mousegestures are working again.
[07:08] <soulrider> !kill process
[07:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about kill process - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:08] <zan> anyone here tried a distro installed from scratch? like lfs or gentoo? do they really work that much better? :D...
[07:09] <ccc_> Riddell: yes
[07:09] <kubuntutaotao> ubotu: what means do you know
[07:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about what means do you know - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:10] <Riddell> ccc_: thanks
[07:10] <damjan> when I try to update kde to 3.5.4, synaptic wants to remove kdelibs-bin package. Why?
[07:10] <soulrider> how can i kill a process form the CLI ?
[07:10] <Riddell> damjan: because the package doesn't exist any more
[07:10] <kosh> kill processid
[07:10] <soulrider> can i use the name there ?
[07:11] <kosh> no
[07:11] <__osh____> soulrider: is it a gui? use xkill
[07:11] <kubuntutaotao> soulrider: what means about CLI
[07:11] <aliasfred> soulrider: use killall yourprocessnamegoeshere
[07:11] <soulrider> i got severala depts running, but i cant see the widnwos
[07:11] <kosh> aliasfred: NO!
[07:11] <soulrider> ok, thanks
[07:11] <soulrider> :-/
[07:11] <kosh> that is a really bad idea
[07:11] <soulrider> i need to kill every adept process
[07:11] <aliasfred> maouaoua
[07:11] <kosh> if you have many processes with the same name that will wipe them all out
[07:12] <soulrider> yes
[07:12] <soulrider> i want that :P
[07:12] <aliasfred> soulrider: ok the command exists and works :)
[07:12] <soulrider> killall adept
[07:12] <farous> soulrider: use top to get the process id if it is hogging your sys
[07:12] <kosh> okay you can use killall but be very very careful doing that
[07:12] <aliasfred> kosh: have fun man life is short :) :)
[07:12] <soulrider> can i gett he ID with k sys guard?
[07:12] <ccc_> Riddell: repository is misspelled on the kde 3.5.4 release page at kubuntu.org though ;D
[07:12] <kosh> you can even kill it in ksysguard
[07:12] <soulrider> it wont let me
[07:12] <damjan> Riddell: thanks
[07:12] <soulrider> sais permission denied
[07:13] <kosh> ah
[07:13] <farous> soulrider: adept you need sudo
[07:13] <kosh> alt-f2 kdesu ksysguard
[07:13] <kosh> then you can kill anything
[07:13] <aliasfred> soulrider: it is because the process you try to kill a process you dont own
[07:13] <soulrider> whats kdesu
[07:14] <soulrider> i started it :/
[07:14] <kosh> kdesu is a program that is a graphical sudo program essentially
[07:14] <soulrider> ahh
[07:14] <aliasfred> soulrider: likely uynder root, aka after a sudo/kdesu
[07:14] <kosh> soulrider: actually you did not start it, when you run adept it asks for your password and then uses sudo to run the command
[07:14] <kubuntutaotao> soulrider: kill `pidof <process name>`
[07:14] <soulrider> killed them! :D i feel so  evil now :P
[07:14] <kosh> soulrider: when you start adept you are seing kdesu ask you for that information
[07:15] <soulrider> ahh
[07:17] <zan> i get an error when i try to upgrade the kubuntu-docs... why is that? :(
[07:17] <__osh____> Hmm, my kde upgrade is removing konqueror. That can't be good. Or it might. Let's see what happens now.
[07:17] <ubuntu> hi
[07:17] <kubuntutaotao> zhan:that is not your mistake
[07:18] <kubuntutaotao> zan: that is not your mistake
[07:18] <soulrider> new KDE removes konqueror?
[07:18] <zan> so it's a bug... 10x...
[07:18] <soulrider> how are we supposed to browse files then
[07:19] <kosh> it did not remove my konqueror
[07:19] <lascar> i've been trying to upgrade to kde 3.5.4, but all the core apps and libraries are being "kept back;" I remember getting out of this situation in the past but have clearly forgotten.  Help anyone?
[07:19] <kosh> soulrider: after you do the update just readd it back in
[07:19] <__osh____> soulrider: I'm not done yet. I just noticed that during the upgrade it removed konq. I'll restart KDE now and see what broke.
[07:19] <soulrider> adept doesnt want to open
[07:19] <farous> lascar: sudp apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:19] <zan> :))... file browsing has been disabled in KDE 3.5.4 =))... it would sound nice :))
[07:19] <kosh> lascar: in my case it was being held back by cupsys2 just a sec I will give you a command for that
[07:20] <farous> sudo i ment :)
[07:20] <lascar> ty
[07:20] <kubuntutaotao> zan: that is cause that developer have not test good
[07:20] <kosh> lascar: sudo apt-get install libcupsys2=1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06
[07:20] <kosh> lascar: try that
[07:20] <lascar> will do
[07:20] <kosh> lascar: some packages will get removed during the upgrade, just make a note of them and add them back in afterwards
[07:20] <lascar> kosh: that version wasn't found on my system
[07:21] <soulrider> did i just upgrade my kernell ?
[07:21] <lascar> wait, installling ;)
[07:21] <soulrider> :P
[07:22] <soulrider> BRB
[07:22] <lascar> farous: thanx, the dist-upgrade seems to be working, though i'm not sure why.  That's meant for major upgrades (e.g. Hoary to Breezy), not for a simple KDE upgrade...
[07:23] <kosh> lascar: dist-upgrade is the one you should use by default
[07:24] <kosh> lascar: since it can remove packages in order to update others with upgrade can't do
[07:24] <lascar> ah
[07:24] <farous> lascar: dist-upgrade will remove conflicting packages while just upgrade won't and thus will force package to be kept and not upgraded
[07:24] <zered> hi everybody
[07:24] <kosh> lascar: so upgrade really can't upgrade a large interdepenent set of packages like kde
[07:24] <zan> i upgraded my kernel too and had to go back to the older one... the new one sucked ass... it didn't boot :(
[07:24] <lascar> ::mutters:: just my luck, one of the servers is timing out
[07:25] <zan> why can't i choose kde 3.5.4 from adept-updater???
[07:25] <lascar> heh, indeed i do
[07:25] <Cornellius> Because it's not yet ready
[07:25] <kubuntutaotao> zered: hi
[07:26] <kubuntutaotao> zan: because your sources is not right
[07:26] <zered> kubuntutaotao: hi
[07:27] <_Shade_> !sources
[07:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:28] <_Shade_> !easysource
[07:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:29] <osh_> Seems to have worked... kde3.5.4 now. Had to do another dist-upgrade from non-x-console though.
[07:29] <kubuntutaotao> zered: where are you
[07:30] <lascar> farous: i got a whole slew of updated libraries, but the same core apps are still being "kept back."
[07:30] <mikearthur> has anyone worked out how to remove tabs in kopete?
[07:30] <zered> kubuntutaotao: in France. And you ?
[07:30] <kubuntutaotao> zered: China.:)
[07:31] <grothesk_> *phew* kde 3.5.4 up and running (exept crash in kde-systemsettings)
[07:31] <zered> kubuntutaotao: yeah ! You're my first chinese linux correpsondant !
[07:31] <farous> lascar: sorry have no idea my friend why?
[07:31] <kubuntutaotao> zered: i am glad to meet you.:)
[07:31] <JabberWokky> Is 3.5.4 safe to install yet?  I assume the fixed package have appeared?
[07:32] <abattoir> mikearthur: Settings->Configure Kopete->Behaviour->Chat->Window Grouping Policy... ???
[07:32] <mikearthur> abattoir: broken in Kopete
[07:32] <zered> kubuntutaotao: thanx. Glad to meet you too
[07:32] <lascar> farous: ::shrugs::
[07:32] <kubuntutaotao> zered: do you speak English?
[07:32] <abattoir> mikearthur: which version?
[07:32] <mikearthur> abattoir: broken in Kubuntu even
[07:32] <osh_> Like so many others I'd say that there's something up with the fonts in 3.5.4.
[07:32] <mikearthur> abattoir: was in 3.5.2,3.5.3, 0.12.0, 0.12.1
[07:32] <lascar> mikearthur: go to the configure window and select the Behavior pane
[07:32] <lascar> then go to the chat tab
[07:32] <grothesk_> osh_: What is wrong with the fonts?
[07:33] <zered> kubuntutaotao: yes, I do. A little bit
[07:33] <mikearthur> lascar: then select "open all in new chat window" and it doesn't use tabs, but the tab bar is always still there
[07:33] <lascar> oh
[07:33] <abattoir> mikearthur: am running 3.5.4 and 0.12.1.... and am sure it worked in 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 w/ 0.12-beta1/2/3 and 0.12.0
[07:33] <osh_> grothesk_: They look a bit "thin". It's not the same as when I started the upgrade anyway.
[07:34] <abattoir> mikearthur: oh, you mean the tab bar...
[07:34] <mikearthur> abattoir: aye, its not meant to be there
[07:34] <`Leah> hi im trying to install kubuntu alongside my current windows setup (without touching windows files)
[07:34] <abattoir> mikearthur: is it a kubuntu specific problem?
[07:34] <`Leah> on the partioner it says, "resize IDE1 and use freed space to install ubuntu" does that mean it'l use the free space currently on IDE1 or would it delete some windows files to make space?
[07:34] <mikearthur> abattoir: yep
[07:34] <abattoir> mikearthur: filed a bug?
[07:34] <kubuntutaotao> zered: it is a pity for football of the France in the cup of 2006.:)
[07:35] <lascar> that depends on how you look at it: they won 2nd place
[07:35] <mikearthur> abattoir: will do, just checking I wasn't stupid
[07:35] <lascar> not bad for a 32-nation tournament
[07:35] <abattoir> mikearthur: no... you arent :)... and trust me there are waaay more stupid bugs there :P
[07:36] <kubuntutaotao> zered: i am very looking up them, but pity...
[07:36] <zered> kubuntutaotao: yes it is. But I'm not a soccer fan. I'm glad to have saw my team in finale !
[07:37] <lascar> and they almost won
[07:37] <lascar> perhaps, should've won...
[07:37] <kubuntutaotao> zered: oh?did the France play soccer?
[07:37] <lascar> the way i see it, the italians targeted the top french offense players
[07:38] <lascar> first, they fouled out Thierry Henry
[07:38] <lascar> then Midfielder Patrick Veira
[07:38] <abattoir> mikearthur: mention clearly that you mean the tab bar is present even if only one tab is open... :)
[07:38] <lascar> and then, of course, Zinedine Zidane
[07:38] <zered> kubuntutaotao: yes of course. It was soccer. Football is for american football or australian football
[07:38] <osh_> lascar: mazeratti (sp?) did what he could and got zidane out. that was probably what got italy the victory. france was the better team most of the match. imho.
[07:39] <lascar> osh_: too true
[07:39] <lascar> particularly in the second half
[07:39] <Cornellius> Is it just me or the repos are slow today ?
[07:39] <lascar> the french practically owned the pitch
[07:39] <lascar> Cornelliuss: the latter
[07:39] <osh_> lascar: too bad zidane allowed himself to be provoked like that.
[07:40] <lascar> osh_: it was almost certainly the tension
[07:40] <osh_> Cornellius: security.ubuntu.com doesn't work for me.
[07:40] <kubuntutaotao> zered: @_@ i am knowing that just now.admire
[07:40] <lascar> 'twas the final match of the world's greatest tournament of the world's greatest sport
[07:40] <lascar> osh_: same here!
[07:40] <Cornellius> osh_: Well, I guess it getting leeched atm. Hench the slow downloads.
[07:41] <lascar> archive.ubuntu.com is slow too
[07:42] <osh_> lascar: probably. but he's supposed to be a _professional_ football player. that means to be able to handle preassure. imho they're both idiots, zidane a bit more so since everyone knows mazeratti is a foul-mouth.
[07:42] <mikearthur> abattoir: do I file it under kubuntu?
[07:42] <trappist> Cornellius: getting leeched?
[07:42] <Cornellius> trappist: A lot of people are downloading from the repos at the same time.
[07:42] <mikearthur> osh_: if someone said that about my mother, and I was in Zidane's situation, it wouldn't be a choice, it would be a reflex
[07:42] <Cornellius> trappist: It's maybe why it is slow.
[07:43] <lascar> osh_: see what i mean?
[07:43] <trappist> Cornellius: not to be pedantic, but 'leeched' generally refers to people downloading without contributing something back when they're expected to
[07:43] <lascar> (but i agree)
[07:43] <Cornellius> trappist: Ha, well you get the idea :)
[07:43] <trappist> yeah :)
[07:44] <osh_> mikearthur: if random idiot tells you something about your mother that you know not to be true you'll react the same? I don't get it. I'd ignore them. Winning is more important than responding to untrue shit.
[07:45] <mikearthur> osh_: the point is, some people just have bad tempers
[07:45] <kubuntutaotao> zered: i am going to sleep.bye
[07:45] <lascar> laterz
[07:45] <mikearthur> where should I file a bug about kubuntu?
[07:45] <osh_> mikearthur: then they should get therapy. zidane probably lost the match for france. and for what?
[07:45] <mikearthur> where should I file a bug about kopete, even?
[07:45] <osh_> mikearthur: lauchpad.net. what's the bug?
[07:45] <trappist> mikearthur, osh_, lascar: please take the soccer discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:46] <mikearthur> trappist: sorry!
[07:46] <divansantana> hey fellor kubuntu pals! ;)
[07:46] <mikearthur> osh_: kopete tab bar problem, I can't file it under kopete
[07:46] <divansantana> can anyone tell me if kde3.5.4 is safe yet to install?
[07:46] <lascar> divansantana: ideally, you should wait a couple of more days
[07:47] <trappist> divansantana: between the readme put out with the packages and the anecdotes I've heard so far, no
[07:47] <divansantana> Last time i tried it messed up my system, i dont want to reload again
[07:47] <lascar> it's only a day after the release
[07:47] <Stardog> how to get flashplayer working in konqueror?
[07:48] <divansantana> riddel: or anyone, the website http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php said previously not recommended because of known bug, but now the banner is removed
[07:48] <lascar> i'm out.  Thanx for the help, farous
[07:48] <divansantana> does thi mean its safe? Anyone tried the new packages since the banner was removed?
[07:48] <divansantana> thanks guys for the advise :)
[07:49] <grothesk> divansantana: Works (mostly) for me.
[07:50] <divansantana> grothesk: mostly meaning? Cause last time it was really terrible after the upgrade, loses all its kubuntu settings, if that bug has been fixed then I would upgrade, im surprise Jonathan didnt put up banner saying bug has been fixed yet...
[07:51] <grothesk> divansantana: Update worked for me (mostly...)
[07:52] <osh_> divansantana: I'm running it. No major issues that I've seen so far.
[07:53] <divansantana> osh_: did konq and all the settings remain after the upgrade? when did u upgrade? thanks
[07:54] <osh_> divansantana: I had to do an dist-upgrade after the first upgrade but things worked out eventually.
[07:54] <aep> hihi. i got a big problem with your X conf. the default conf dosnt work and it seems to ignore any modus line i give him, is there any second conf or some automativ tool that overwrites my manual config?
[07:55] <divansantana> thanks osh_
[07:56] <osh_> divansantana: good luck. if you intend to upgrade that is.
[07:56] <aep> xrandr -s 800x600 crashes without log entry
[07:56] <kosh> I just did an upgrade here and it seems to be working fine
[07:57] <divansantana> osh_ thanks, but im still bit nervous, use my laptop hectic for work, cant afford a mess up again. Last time it was terrible. Normally the upgrade is awesome and dont notice anything
[07:57] <Stardog> how to get flashplayer working in konqueror?
[07:57] <divansantana> osh_ or others simple question, did your KDM logn screen change or remain to Kubuntu default???
[07:58] <kosh> Stardog: sorry no idea on that, I consider it a feature of not having flash :)
[07:58] <osh_> divansantana: It looked like it changed a little.
[07:58] <osh_> divansantana: but it was still the kdm login screen, no doubt about that.
[07:59] <divansantana> osh_ previous BUG was KDM screen changed to say KDE and the splash changed to say KDE3.5 etc, it changes all your settings to KDE defaults. But it appears its fixed...
[07:59] <mikearthur> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/55079
[07:59] <divansantana> maybe I will try my luck(il kick myself it it does it again)
[07:59] <mikearthur> Can all Kopete users please view this bug, and see if you can reproduce
[08:00] <divansantana> stardog: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[08:00] <divansantana> stardog: i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:00] <Stardog> divansantana: thx :)
[08:01] <divansantana> stardog: kewl
[08:01] <divansantana> stardog: glad u trying konq its really awesome when you perfect it
[08:06] <aep> well,... is there any way to just make it work?
[08:06] <Stardog> divansantana: yeah... i know.... but it takes some time, since i am a newb :p
[08:07] <divansantana> stardog: i can give you tips
[08:08] <divansantana> stardog: Konq is awesome. has drawbacks you should no about that though. Doesnt support advanced webpages like gmail (fully) and some google websites. but will in future
[08:09] <divansantana> stardog: other feature it doesnt have that opera does is ctrl+z which does undo when you close a window. I miss that but all else is good
[08:09] <divansantana> stardog: what you should do is get used to katapult and bookmark your webites with simple names like banking for your bank and you can launch your websites in seconds
[08:12] <Stardog> divansantana: k thx for the tips.... I have some troubles  installing flash from the link u recommended, but Im running an i686 structure.... do u think that makes a difference?
[08:13] <trappist> Stardog: no
[08:16] <cexar> hi
[08:16] <cexar> just a quetsion
[08:16] <cexar> how can i upgrade my kubuntu KDE to the new KDE?
[08:16] <cexar> it appears KDE 3.5.2, i want KDE 3.5.4
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> !kde-latest
[08:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde-latest - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:18] <cexar> it appears KDE 3.5.2, i want KDE 3.5.4
[08:19] <h3sp4wn> look at kubuntu.org
[08:19] <cexar> i did
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> look for the kde 3.5.3 announcement but change the 353 to 354
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> cexar: Obviously you did not as the first link is about kde 3.5.4
[08:21] <osh_> Sweet. Kubuntu boot-time is now cut in half. Takes about 1min now compared to 2 before. That's 1min from grub to logged into kde.
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> osh_: On edgy ?
[08:22] <osh_> h3sp4wn: dapper
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> osh_: Did you remove unnecessary services ? (surely just upgrading to kde 3.5.4 couldn't help that much)
[08:23] <osh_> katapult still refuses to work though. annoying. it worked well in breezy.
[08:24] <osh_> h3sp4wn: actually all I did was upgrade to 3.5.4. I used to have about 1min to kdm and 45sec for kde. Now it's more like 45sek to kdm and 15sec for kde startup.
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> What does katapult get you that alt f2 and just typing the command into the run box does not ?
[08:25] <osh_> h3sp4wn: some speedup probably comes from breezy to dapper. I think I had a  bit over 2min there.
[08:25] <stephan_> hi, ok i updated know with the "good" kubuntu kde packages, but my kicker is still broker, ther is no "K" button, no "background process" items, what cann i do to get that backn?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[08:26] <stephan_> h3sp4wn: katapult ist one of the best tools on kde
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> Is KDE 3.5.4 fixed now?
[08:26] <osh_> h3sp4wn: I used to be able to start movies from katapult. Just by typing the name of them.
[08:26] <stephan_> TheGateKeeper: should be, offical warning is removed
[08:27] <narasim_7> hello...is apt-get update
[08:27] <narasim_7> working
[08:27] <osh_> TheGateKeeper: No major issues for me. Nothing that broke that I notice anyway.
[08:27] <ubuntu> hola
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> osh_: The only time I tried it annoyed me that non kde applications could not be launched from it without messing about
[08:28] <stephan_> h3sp4wn: movies bookmarks mp3 everything with autocompleteion, it also does calculations
[08:28] <osh_> narasim_7: no. security repo is slow...
[08:28] <narasim_7> it is waiting for a long time and finally times out
[08:28] <TheGateKeeper> stephan_: osh_ thanx guys :-)
[08:28] <narasim_7> osh_: but security repo is ok...my in.ubuntu.com repo is timing out
[08:28] <narasim_7> osh_: can i try other servers?
[08:28] <TheGateKeeper> osh_: you install it today after the official warning was removed?
[08:30] <osh_> TheGateKeeper: yep
[08:30] <osh_> narasim_7: dunno.
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> osh_: cool :-)
[08:30] <stephan_> no chance to fix my broken kicken, ich want it back, i have no taskbar, no k-button on it almost nothing
[08:30] <narasim_7> osh_: ok...guess i will have to be patient..thnks aneway
[08:30] <stephan_> ?
[08:30] <BluesKaj> narasim_7, URL for the repos?
[08:31] <BluesKaj> guess he wasn't sure of it's stability
[08:32] <osh_> Hmm, I've found a problem. I think.
[08:33] <osh_> One package is Broken. It's kdelibs4c2a that won't
[08:34] <osh_> ...work and dist-upgrade doesn't seem to fix it. Something about libcupsys2... hmmm
[08:34] <cexar> many tree discussions
[08:34] <divansantana> stardog: no it doesnt
[08:35] <cexar> but nothing really  cool
[08:35] <divansantana> stephan_: thats the question ive been asking! u know answer yet?
[08:35] <cexar> i make an upgrade
[08:36] <cexar> but when i saw help--about kde
[08:36] <cexar> shows me KDE 3.5.2
[08:36] <cexar> then...
[08:36] <cexar> ?
[08:36] <digitalslacker> hi all, is there a command for X to auto detect a monitor's resolutions? I just got a new wide screen monitor and want 1280x800
[08:36] <trappist> cexar: what does kde-config --version say
[08:36] <cexar> i dont know if the upgrade was succesfull
[08:36] <trappist> digitalslacker: if you're monitor is supported, yeah
[08:36] <divansantana> osh_ katapult works fine
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> digitalslacker: Just use the xfree86 modeline generator
[08:37] <divansantana> osh_ you should configre the settings maybe, press alt + space and then cntl +c to configure
[08:37] <osh_> divansantana: not for me. I've got a bug about it on launchpad. it has something to do with localization I believe.
[08:37] <trappist> cexar: also you probably have to log out and log back in for the changes to take effect
[08:37] <divansantana> h3sp4wn: a Million and one more things
[08:37] <cexar> i reboot my machine
[08:37] <divansantana> h3sp4wn: its not even close
[08:37] <cexar> but...nothinmg
[08:37] <osh_> divansantana: I don't even get katapult to respond to alt-space... :-(
[08:38] <trappist> cexar: 13:36 <trappist> cexar: what does kde-config --version say
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> divansantana: What is not even close ?
[08:38] <stephan_> divansantana: my log show nothing you asked me?
[08:39] <BluesKaj> update manager is very slow today
[08:39] <cexar> i've been looking for it
[08:39] <trappist> I give up.
[08:39] <osh_> Hmm, cupsys is 1.2.0 but kdelibs4c2a seems to want 1.2.1 or something. Oh well. Never mind.
[08:39] <divansantana> osh_ if katapul open??
[08:39] <divansantana> do a pgrep katapult from cmd line
[08:40] <osh_> divansantana: it's in my taskbar if that's what you mean.
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> osh_: there is an updated cupsys in dapper updates (if I remember correctly)
[08:40] <divansantana> stephan_ ive been asking at this forum cause am scared to upgrade and break my sys - AGAIN
[08:40] <stephan_> divansantana: you can update, now
[08:40] <divansantana> osh_ it should never be in your kicker bar
[08:40] <cexar> how can execute kde-config?
[08:40] <divansantana> osh_ try alt+f2 then type katapult then try alt+space and see if works - let me know
[08:41] <stephan_> divansantana: offical warning is removed, i updated first the broken packages, and the "good" ones repaired everything except kicker
[08:41] <divansantana> stephan_ have you tried?? This is my production pc
[08:41] <osh_> divansantana: katapult is running. nothing happens when I do alt-space.
[08:41] <trappist> osh_: do you have dual monitors?
[08:41] <divansantana> stephan_ kewl I hope it doesnt change my system. I just reinstalled to fix the kde 354 bug
[08:42] <cexar> i got it
[08:42] <divansantana> h3sp4wn: alt+f2 simply opens known program
[08:42] <osh_> trappist: no.
[08:42] <cexar> Qt: 3.3.6
[08:42] <trappist> osh_: oh.  I do, and katapult only works on one screen.
[08:42] <cexar> KDE: 3.5.2
[08:42] <cexar> kde-config: 1.0
[08:42] <stephan_> divansantana: for my everything works greate again, but the kicker thing is anoying
[08:42] <cexar> biy invoking kde-config --version
[08:42] <osh_> trappist: ok. good to know. No, I'm on a laptop.
[08:43] <divansantana> h3sp4wn: katapult opens bookmarks, is a calcualter, opens amarok songs, opens fish urls smb urls, localtions, folders on your pc in home direcort, is quicker, prettier and a million other things
[08:43] <trappist> osh_: me too :)  with a separate external display
[08:43] <divansantana> h3sp4wn: its one of the best and my most used app
[08:43] <stephan_> wat can i do to reset kicker to the default settings?
[08:43] <cexar> i guess it means upgrade was unsuccesfull
[08:44] <osh_> trappist: right. Never thought of doing it that way.
[08:44] <divansantana> stephan_kewl do you think that if I upgrade my kicker will be ok?
[08:44] <trappist> stephan_: mv ~.kde/share/apps/kicker/ ~.kde/share/apps/kickerold
[08:44] <stephan_> divansantana: yes i think your kicker will be ok
[08:44] <divansantana> stephan_ i hope so thanks
[08:44] <divansantana> stephan_ dont think there is much you can do, why dont you simply reconnfigure it correctly it is quite easy
[08:45] <divansantana> trappist: good thinking
[08:45] <osh_> h3sp4wn: seems to have worked. The extra dapper-updates hint. Thanks.
[08:45] <stephan_> divansantana: i know, there is NOTHING to configure, its just broken
[08:45] <cexar> ok
[08:45] <cexar> bye
[08:45] <divansantana> stephan_ cant you right click on bar? mine i could when it broke previously
[08:46] <stephan_> divansantana: but if i change sth in the configuration, nothing changes on kicker
[08:47] <draik> whats a good photo editor, like photoshop?
[08:48] <trappist> draik: gimp
[08:48] <draik> trappist, apt-get install gimp?
[08:48] <trappist> yep
[08:48] <draik> thx
[08:49] <stephan_> yea, gat taskbar back
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> divansantana: I am using e17 which has something similar (but not dependant on it being a kde app) I think alt-escape is a better key combination to use than - alt space (you don't need to move your fingers unnaturally)
[08:49] <BluesKaj> congrats, stephan_ :)
[08:50] <trappist> h3sp4wn: you can do alt-space with both thumbs, or even with one finger!
[08:50] <trappist> h3sp4wn: but it's a configurable preference
[08:50] <liviux> hi all
[08:50] <BluesKaj> updater is like molasses today
[08:50] <draik> yup
[08:51] <draik> gimp is taking me about 5 minutes... so it sid
[08:51] <draik> *said
[08:51] <BluesKaj> major fixes draik ?
[08:51] <draik> could be. Dunno
[08:52] <trappist> BluesKaj: he's installing gimp for the first time, not updating.  security.ubuntu.com is having a bad day.;
[08:53] <stephan_> BluesKaj: My kicker is fixed again
[08:53] <stephan_> yes
[08:53] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: I got in at 9am this morning when everything was firing on all cylinders
[08:54] <BluesKaj> ok trappist, that's what I meant , I was only commenting on my situation
[08:54] <cpk2> security was also having a bad night...
[08:55] <BluesKaj> yeah security is still loading in adept
[08:55] <KDEfanboy> besides kde packages, are there other packages kubuntu provides in addition to, or in place of ubuntu packages?
[08:55] <larson9999> security doesn't load lots of times for me
[08:55] <BluesKaj> like the old days on dialup
[08:56] <cpk2> dunno, could check the wiki
[08:56] <BluesKaj> which for me was only 5 yrs ago ... dsl is in the boonies. I should be thankful :)
[08:56] <cpk2> hrmmm archive timed out
[08:56] <BluesKaj> almost there 95%
[08:57] <easterducky> HELP HELP HELP: I have to be in court in 1 hour and postscript printer (Lexmark Optra S 1885) is not working under KDE even though the driver is listed!
[08:57] <trappist> easterducky: what are you printing.
[08:57] <easterducky> A memorandum of argument for appeals court
[08:57] <h3sp4wn> easterducky: Are you a lawyer ?
[08:57] <trappist> easterducky: but what is it, html? tif? pdf? ps?
[08:58] <easterducky> I'M DEAD!
[08:58] <easterducky> I'M DEAD!
[08:58] <easterducky> I'M DEAD!
[08:58] <SpAwN> easterducky, u got a floppy driver or somthing
[08:58] <SpAwN> easterducky, there will be a way to get the stuff printed
[08:58] <easterducky> it'sIt's jsut a .odt from openb office.org 2
[08:59] <trappist> easterducky: print from openoffice.org and choose print to file.  give it a filename.  it'll make a .ps.  the ps can be sent directly to the printer from the command line.
[08:59] <cpk2> easterducky: at worst you could probably just take it to some copy shop
[08:59] <easterducky> should I try converting to <cry> MS-Worms?
[08:59] <SpAwN> easterducky, maby u can save it as a more common file type and print froma  library computer or somthing
[09:00] <easterducky> not even if I took a cab and eft itrunning...
[09:00] <SpAwN> or send emails with it attched to ya self with it attached then goto somewhere with printer and pring
[09:00] <SpAwN> *print
[09:00] <cpk2> on the same topic, there are updates for cups...
[09:00] <trappist> easterducky: less the-sky-is-falling and more helping-us-help-you might be in order.
[09:01] <easterducky> I clicke4d 'save as' -- now what?
[09:01] <trappist> didn't say save as.  said print to file.
[09:02] <trappist> but, if it'll save as postscript that's just as good.
[09:03] <aep> hi my girlfriend is very new to kubuntu and she wants to know howto install kdegames
[09:03] <easterducky> the drivers are saying not found or no admin rights -- but I am logged into the print GUI as root
[09:03] <trappist> aep: sudo apt-get install kdegames
[09:03] <aep> she is listening, btw :)
[09:03] <dr_willis> or fire up adept and search for kdegames, heck - search for games.. theres a lot of them you can install.
[09:03] <cpk2> sudo apt-get install kdegames
[09:03] <cpk2> oh beat me to it trappist
[09:04] <aep> dr_willis, tryed, no match
[09:04] <dr_willis> Frozen Bubble is kicking. as is  PySol
[09:04] <cpk2> !games
[09:04] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:04] <cpk2> list of native games
[09:04] <trappist> yeah pysol is hawt
[09:04] <cpk2> some you need to install yourself though
[09:04] <dr_willis> I like that Rocks And Diamonds game. Bolder Dash clone.
[09:04] <easterducky> trappist, I printed it to a file, now what?
[09:04] <cpk2> i like wesnoth
[09:04] <cpk2> and kasteroid
[09:04] <trappist> easterducky: try 'lp <filename>' from the command line
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> aep: She may like tremulous
[09:05] <SpAwN> or enemy territory...
[09:05] <easterducky> as w007 ?
[09:05] <aep> h3sp4wn, yeah good idea
[09:05] <bgrimm> this is likely been mentioned, but are the security.ubuntu.com servers down, (seem to have been inaccessible all day), are they mirrored somewhere?
[09:05] <aep> but
[09:05] <trappist> easterducky: if that doesn't work, visit http://localhost:631 and set up the printer there.
[09:05] <aep> apt dosnt find kdegames
[09:05] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, tremulus is the new game based off q3 code right...the alien one?
[09:05] <osh_> SpAwN: don't you have to buy enemy territory?
[09:05] <aep> maybe i have to insert the cd ?
[09:05] <timthelion> is there like a simple .sh file that I could run that would set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror?
[09:05] <SpAwN> osh_, abolutly 10000000% NOT
[09:06] <cpk2> aep: no
[09:06] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  uea/
[09:06] <SpAwN> osh_, its open source now man
[09:06] <osh_> SpAwN: where can i find it then?
[09:06] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  yea  tats it.. makes me dizzy
[09:06] <aep> so what to do to make it find kdegames and stuff?
[09:06] <cpk2> aep: if you are using the gui click on fetch or whatever
[09:06] <cpk2> then try again
[09:06] <cpk2> if you are using command line do sudo apt-get update
[09:06] <easterducky> HELP HELP HELP: I have to be in court in 1 hour and postscript printer (Lexmark Optra S 1885) is not working under KDE even though the driver is listed!
[09:06] <easterducky> oops
[09:06] <aep> sec moving to gf's pc
[09:07] <SpAwN> dr_willis, hehe i got spanked at tremulous...couldent figure out the game controolls/point
[09:07] <cpk2> !info kdegames
[09:07] <ubotu> kdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:07] <easterducky> root@pondmeister:~# lp '/home/robberducky/Desktop/appeal.ps'
[09:07] <easterducky> request id is DJ930-21 (1 file(s))
[09:07] <rikioh> aep : its in main package
[09:07] <SpAwN> osh_, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/
[09:07] <easterducky> nothing is happening -- it's not even printing a testpage
[09:07] <draik> LOL... easterducky... funny name... sorry
[09:07] <SpAwN> osh_, thats idsofts bit torrent tracker.......pretty fast dls
[09:07] <rikioh> aep: i just looked and found it with adept
[09:07] <buz> easterducky: if its a real PS printer try cat psfile > /dev/whateverprinter
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: I have not played it yet but mean to (I have download it though)
[09:07] <dr_willis> easterducky,  check the /var/log/cups logs perhps for a clue as to whats going on.
[09:07] <cpk2> it will tab complete it in a command line too, just tried it
[09:08] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, if its the alien one....game play isnt to great.....i couldnt figure out how to do everything....
[09:08] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  thats when it pays to RTFM. :P
[09:08] <easterducky> I'm trying to use CUPS should I try LPR or something?
[09:08] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  heh  - it takes some learning... then no one ever wants to be the alien
[09:08] <SpAwN> dr_willis, hehe ive tried so many BAD linux games...
[09:08] <SpAwN> dr_willis, i did i was an alient
[09:08] <SpAwN> *alien
[09:08] <dr_willis> easterducky,  CUPS replaces LPR.  so trying lpr - means you are using cups still.
[09:08] <timthelion> is there like a simple .sh file that I could run that would set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror?
[09:09] <SpAwN> ....coulnt figure out how to climb walls and crap
[09:09] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  the in game helpo that said  'hit ctrl to climb walls' dident help eh? :P
[09:09] <buz> easterducky: try the thing with cat
[09:09] <timthelion> don't mess up your hair before you go to court
[09:09] <SpAwN> dr_willis, aboviously i over looked that...but thanls for the tip :P
[09:10] <SpAwN> lol @ timthelion
[09:10] <trappist> yeah bad hair + no case = a bad day in court
[09:10] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  heh - it was shown right when ya spawn.. and so on..  :)
[09:10] <buz> easterducky: what is the device of your printer
[09:10] <SpAwN> dr_willis, i musta been realy high when i tried it then
[09:10] <dr_willis> Heh - perhaps its new in the latest versions..
[09:10] <timthelion> put it on a usb key and print it out at the library on the way
[09:11] <dr_willis> check dmesg, check the /var/cups logs, and perhaps restart the 'cups service'
[09:12] <easterducky> I can get the local web iface at port 631 but it asks for a login and root is not working
[09:12] <dr_willis> the cups web interface is disabled by default -
[09:12] <easterducky> but I see all my printers (the other ones are broken)
[09:13] <easterducky> how do I enable it?
[09:13] <dr_willis> and yes - i think its a stupid idea for them to disable it.
[09:13] <rikioh> when i install kdegames how do i launch it
[09:13] <dr_willis> The ubunti forums/wiki mention how to reenable it..
[09:13] <rikioh> cuz it doesnt show up in my kmenu
[09:13] <rikioh> and kdegames is not a valid command
[09:13] <dr_willis> rikioh,  i think that installed several games
[09:13] <dr_willis> !info kdegames
[09:13] <ubotu> kdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:13] <Stardog> when running nano i konsole; how to actually save and close? i see down some ^O to save and ^X to end, but what means ^?
[09:13] <hans_> Moin, moin!
[09:13] <soulrider> hi everyone!
[09:13] <dr_willis> metapackage = several other packages
[09:13] <cpk2> rikioh: there are lots of games, look in the kmenu
[09:13] <abloylas> does anybody know how to get wmv3 files to work through firefox?
[09:13] <dr_willis> Stardog,  ^ = control
[09:14] <BluesKaj> hey soulrider
[09:14] <Stardog> dr_willis: thx
[09:14] <cpk2> in vi save and close is :wq
[09:14] <cpk2> why couldnt they make it the same command as vi?
[09:14] <dr_willis> escape :wq       if in insert mode..
[09:14] <dr_willis> why not  just use vi then.  LOL..
[09:15] <cpk2> i do use vi
[09:15] <rikioh> is there a pretty nice photo editing program similar to photoshop or macromedia's big named art program
[09:15] <rikioh> that i can run in kubuntu
[09:15] <cpk2> rikioh: gimp?
[09:15] <dr_willis> rikioh,  i tend touse gimp
[09:15] <dr_willis> depends on what you are doing editing wise.
[09:15] <buz> or krita
[09:15] <cpk2> rikioh: you could try surfing around sourceforge
[09:16] <timthelion> how do I set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror so I can use java applets? I can allready type "java ***.class"
[09:16] <rikioh> im gonna be doing some artwork for school i got to a art university
[09:16] <rikioh> and i just wanted to see what was out there for kubuntu
[09:16] <buz> mhh i think you want real photoshop then
[09:17] <cpk2> wouldnt hurt to look at whats on sourceforge
[09:17] <dimsuz> Hi! Trying to run "X :1" as non-default user I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[09:17] <dimsuz> Any hints?
[09:17] <dr_willis> dimsuz,  you got to be root to start a new X session
[09:18] <dr_willis> BUT you can do a similer thing i think with startx and the right options
[09:19] <dimsuz> dr_willis: ok, then another question: why sudo doesn't work with non-default user? It reports no error. Just empty output
[09:19] <cpk2> you have to let the user be able to use sudo
[09:19] <dr_willis> the initial user is set to be the only one who can do sudo things.
[09:20] <dimsuz> cpk2: how? I just added him to 'sudo' group, but this doesn't help
[09:20] <rikioh> you think photoshop would wine well?
[09:20] <dimsuz> dr_willis: bad. you're really sure about that?
[09:20] <soulrider> guys, do you recommend upgrading to KDE 3.5.4?
[09:20] <timthelion> how do I set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror so I can use java applets? I can allready type "java ***.class"
[09:21] <gnomefreak> rikioh: not real well no
[09:21] <infocentro> hi
[09:21] <gnomefreak> soulrider: its ok still a few things that need to be worked out but feel free to test it
[09:22] <dr_willis> dimsuz,  try it... make another user and see if they can sudo
[09:22] <cpk2> soulrider: NO
[09:22] <BluesKaj> Now, if I could just solve my openoffice install problem...hav broken dependencies that are in a share file which i don't have permission to edit or delete
[09:22] <dr_willis> I only got 1 user. :P so i cant test it.. lol
[09:22] <soulrider> and 3.5.3?
[09:22] <cpk2> soulrider: read the topic!
[09:22] <soulrider> because i still got .2
[09:22] <cpk2> oh wait
[09:22] <dimsuz> dr_willis: I already have it :). don't work :)
[09:22] <cpk2> the topic changed?
[09:22] <soulrider> lol
[09:22] <cpk2> .3 is ok
[09:22] <soulrider> i hvnt seen KDE in the repositores
[09:22] <soulrider> at least not to upgrade
[09:23] <BluesKaj> there was a kernel update earlier but mine failed
[09:23] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: Lphoto ???
[09:23] <cpk2> hmm i guess the worked everything out with .4
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: How did it fail ?
[09:23] <BluesKaj> the repos timed out
[09:23] <petty> sorry to jump in guys....but I just downloaded the latest DVD....and it sits there for hours displaying "Booting the kernel".....I checked the DVD for integrity and is OK.   Is is a amd 64bli dual core system.....running gentoo right now.   Any ideas?
[09:23] <cpk2> soulrider: just go to kubuntu.org
[09:24] <soulrider> ok
[09:24] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: sorry wrong person :-(
[09:24] <dimsuz> so no way for non-root to start X? that's horrible ;)
[09:24] <cpk2> you gotta add a repo into sources.list the first post they have is how to do it
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: make sure you have dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe (can't think of any other way you would have any issues)
[09:24] <soulrider> lol ok TheGateKeeper
[09:24] <soulrider> i added the ones in !easysource
[09:25] <TheGateKeeper> rikioh: Lphoto ???
[09:25] <cpk2> soulrider: just so you know though up until this afternoon .4 wasnt working with kubuntu
[09:25] <BluesKaj> yeah got all those enabled h3
[09:25] <soulrider> ohh
[09:25] <rikioh> thegatekeeper: ill look into that
[09:25] <soulrider> also, i think i saw my linux installing a new kernel
[09:25] <soulrider> but it didnt seem to install or something
[09:26] <clintonthegeek> cpk2: and now it is?
[09:26] <the-erm> This is such a simple question I can't believe I'm asking it.  How do you tell if you have an ident server installed?
[09:26] <cpk2> soulrider: pretty sure it holds the kernel updates back unless you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:26] <trappist> the-erm: sudo fuser -v -n tcp 113
[09:26] <cpk2> clintonthegeek: kubuntu.org says its been released
[09:26] <BluesKaj> in adept or in the term ?
[09:26] <soulrider> i enver used command line to update, and it still upgraded my kernel once
[09:26] <trappist> the-erm: that'll tell you if it's running
[09:27] <the-erm> thanks.
[09:27] <the-erm> Looks like I don't have one.
[09:27] <clintonthegeek> i notice that dist-upgrade with the 3.5.4 repository wants to remove kdelibs-bin
[09:27] <the-erm> what's a good identd?
[09:27] <clintonthegeek> which is apparantly necessary for kde
[09:27] <the-erm> there are quite a few ...
[09:27] <clintonthegeek> is that gonna mess things up?
[09:27] <trappist> the-erm: sudo apt-get install ident-server will present you with a list
[09:28] <trappist> the-erm: apt-cache show packagename for each one to compare
[09:28] <soulrider> there are no mirrors in my country :(
[09:28] <trappist> you need to get a new country
[09:28] <SpAwN> lol
[09:28] <clintonthegeek> hahaha
[09:29] <soulrider> lol
[09:29] <soulrider> or move toa  new one :P
[09:29] <clintonthegeek> it isn't essential that your mirror be located inside your country
[09:29] <SpAwN> soulrider, u speak good english
[09:29] <BluesKaj> soulrider, Uruguay ?
[09:29] <soulrider> thanks :)
[09:29] <clintonthegeek> but it's good for download speeds
[09:29] <soulrider> BluesKaj: yes
[09:29] <SpAwN> soulrider, i alwasy though u where american or canadian
[09:29] <BluesKaj> cool! :)
[09:29] <soulrider> lol really?
[09:29] <the-erm> thanks trappist.
[09:29] <SpAwN> soulrider, yea your english inst that broken at all
[09:29] <BluesKaj> speaks better than some here
[09:30] <soulrider> :)
[09:30] <SpAwN> BluesKaj, yea
[09:30] <soulrider> lol BluesKaj
[09:30] <SpAwN> soulrider, u do...
[09:30] <SpAwN> soulrider, lol
[09:30] <soulrider> ive been learning ti since i was little
[09:30] <soulrider> and i took soem international exams :P
[09:30] <BluesKaj> <<--Canada here
[09:30] <SpAwN> soulrider, ahh thats probly why
[09:30] <clintonthegeek> same here
[09:30] <superdum1> hello, someone answered this question before for me but i forgot how to update the necessary packages. i have a kubuntu dapper flight disc and there was an issue in the partitioner in ubiquity. which ubiquity packages do i need to update and how do i do it so it doesn't try to update everything on the system?
[09:30] <SpAwN> im american and i love it =D
[09:30] <soulrider> this was hte last one i took, http://www.cambridgeesol.org/exams/cpe.htm
[09:31] <soulrider> and yes, i passed :P
[09:31] <clintonthegeek> so.... upgrading to kde 3.4.3 wants to remove kdelibs-bin... is that okay? or is it gonna screw things up?
[09:31] <aep> ok seems she gave up. the screen is to smal to see antyhing
[09:31] <SpAwN> soulrider, if u offered me 100 dollars i couldnt speak a single word of what u speak?>..waht do u speak?
[09:31] <clintonthegeek> has anyone else updated yet?
[09:31] <BluesKaj> dept just updated with no probs , but it took 3 trys :)
[09:31] <soulrider> Spanish
[09:31] <BluesKaj> adept
[09:31] <SpAwN> soulrider, uraguay speaks spanish?
[09:31] <trappist> clintonthegeek: it's fine.  it's just a metapackage, obsoleted by the new version.  whatever it provides will be replaced.
[09:31] <soulrider> indeed
[09:31] <clintonthegeek> thanks
[09:31] <soulrider> its in south america
[09:31] <SpAwN> *Uruguay
[09:32] <soulrider> no one knows where it is: P
[09:32] <SpAwN> soulrider, im horrible with locations....
[09:32] <soulrider> lol, its allright
[09:32] <soulrider> ive been told its next to Poland.... so....
[09:32] <SpAwN> soulrider, i though it was a:over in europe B; middle east or somthing
[09:32] <trappist> we americans don't know out geography
[09:32] <trappist> *our
[09:32] <SpAwN> trappist, no we dont :P
[09:33] <soulrider> i gotta install Google earth...
[09:33] <dr_willis> speak for ya uneducated selfs!  I watch National Geographic channel! :P
[09:33] <dr_willis> I also got a world map mouse pad.
[09:33] <BluesKaj> ok , How do I delete a locked share file , it's root-root and when i try to dump it i haven't got permission ?
[09:33] <dr_willis> :)
[09:33] <SpAwN> dr_willis, i love the discovery and tlc
[09:33] <soulrider> lol dr_willis
[09:33] <trappist> BluesKaj: share file?
[09:33] <soulrider> i watch lots of discovery and THC
[09:33] <SpAwN> dont get national geographic though
[09:34] <soulrider> i got it, but tis not that good
[09:34] <soulrider> at least not here
[09:34] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  Travel Channel has had some really good shows about Jungle Natives and so forth lately.
[09:34] <SpAwN> soulrider, yea thc is good too....both kinda the kind u smoke and the kind u watch :P
[09:34] <trappist> c'mon, guys, topic!
[09:34] <SpAwN> i been watching alot of that shark week
[09:34] <superdum1> does anyone know how i can update just one package and not its dependencies?
[09:34] <zappix> Okay
[09:34] <BluesKaj> trappist, /usr/share
[09:34] <dr_willis> Heh.
[09:34] <trappist> superdum1: why would you want to do that
[09:34] <clintonthegeek> superdum1: i think you can force it, but yeah, why?
[09:34] <superdum1> trappist: see my longer message above
[09:34] <clintonthegeek> it'll probably break stuff
[09:34] <dr_willis> force it.. and it may not work.
[09:34] <trappist> BluesKaj: why on EARTH would you want to delete that.  your system will be broked.
[09:34] <superdum1> i need to update just ubiquity
[09:35] <zappix> Anyone here know how to be able to load a HDD Partion using the NTFS file system? My Windows installation is corrupt and I need to backup some files >.<;
[09:35] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[09:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:35] <clintonthegeek> well... will ubiquity still work without it's updated dependancies?
[09:35] <zappix> >>
[09:35] <BluesKaj> well the open office broken pkges that are blocking my installation seem to be there
[09:35] <zappix> <<
[09:35] <trappist> superdum1: usually dependencies aren't kidding.  if you update a package without updating its dependencies, it's very likely to break.  if it can be done at all.
[09:35] <zappix> Thanks :P
[09:35] <cpk2> i remember in middle school i had to learn all the south/central american countries capitals as well as europes =(
[09:35] <superdum1> *sigh* i know
[09:35] <cpk2> of course i have forgotten almost all of it now
[09:35] <soulrider> me too lol
[09:36] <rsosborn> Hello all
[09:36] <soulrider> well, not allt he capitals, but i allways confuse the nordic countried cities
[09:36] <visik7> is there a guide to unattended installation and slipstreaming updates ?
[09:36] <superdum1> but someone who was actually developing ubiquity at the time told me how to update only the necessary packages for installation
[09:36] <soulrider> hi rsosborn
[09:36] <rsosborn> does anyone have a good link on a how to install OScommerce on Ubuntu
[09:36] <trappist> BluesKaj: deleting /usr/share is a very bad idea.  what exactly is the problem, and we'll see about finding the right solution.
[09:36] <BluesKaj> trappist, the open office broken pkges that are blocking my installation seem to be there
[09:36] <rsosborn> Hey soulrider
[09:36] <cpk2> but i remember things like paraguay and uraguay
[09:36] <visik7> rsosborn: first check for LAMP ubuntu and install it
[09:36] <trappist> BluesKaj: more specifically, I mean
[09:36] <rsosborn> done it
[09:36] <soulrider> ive never been to Paraguay
[09:36] <visik7> rsosborn: thant unpack the tar.gz and start to config it
[09:37] <clintonthegeek> visik7: you mean, making a custom install cd with upgrade packages on it?
[09:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: what happens when you try to install/upgrade openoffice
[09:37] <rsosborn> I have apache2, php, mysql, phpmyadmin, phpBB
[09:37] <visik7> clintonthegeek: yes
[09:37] <rsosborn> I just need shopping cart
[09:37] <superdum1> because the pre release dapper images had issues in the graphical installer regarding partitioning
[09:37] <cpk2> its ok i've only been out of my state about 3 or 4 times
[09:37] <rsosborn> I'm noob
[09:37] <steve444> Hi - Anyone - I've installed kubuntu and xcfe on ubuntu - how do I specify a default session please?
[09:37] <rsosborn> so I little guidence would help
[09:37] <BluesKaj> trappist, the oppenoffice.org files
[09:37] <soulrider> !ntfs
[09:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: the openoffice.org files is *what happens*?
[09:38] <BluesKaj> I get the broken pkges message
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> steve444: it will default to whatever you last used
[09:38] <trappist> BluesKaj: can you pastebin the exact error
[09:38] <BluesKaj> ok
[09:38] <steve444> TheGateKeeper: thanks, but can I set a specific one to default without running it initially?
[09:38] <timthelion> how do I set up some sort of java virtual machine in Konqueror so I can use java applets? I can allready type "java ***.class"
[09:39] <zappix> Unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[09:39] <zappix> rofl
[09:39] <zappix> don't try experimental settings
[09:39] <zappix> T_T
[09:39] <clintonthegeek> visik7: hmm.... taking a quick look around i can't find one... but what about a server install, and then apt-get updating to get the latest packages?
[09:39] <TheGateKeeper> steve444: sorry you have got me on that one :-(
[09:39] <timthelion> !java
[09:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:39] <clintonthegeek> err... apt-get update, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <visik7> clintonthegeek: I've 50 machine to setup
[09:39] <visik7> clintonthegeek: I don't want to upgrade each one
[09:39] <jordan_> Everybody: Can I install XFCE in to KDE and useing programe witch install in KDE ?
[09:39] <dr_willis> yes
[09:40] <steve444> TheGateKeeper: I thought there might be a conf file somewhere - Linux is new to me ;-)
[09:40] <dr_willis> Yes you can jordan_  i do it all the time
[09:40] <soulrider> i convinced my friend to make the switch to linux, and hes installing it right now :)
[09:40] <zappix> Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[09:40] <visik7> clintonthegeek:  they are eterogeneus in hardware so I can't clone disks
[09:40] <zappix> Anyone know how to disable that?
[09:40] <dr_willis> jordan_,  there may be a few little features that may cause some problems.. but not many. Depenmds on the programs also.
[09:40] <zappix> like unmount it or something
[09:40] <trappist> zappix: that happens when you do what
[09:40] <dr_willis> zappix,  cpmmend out the /dev/hda1 line in the fstab?
[09:40] <clintonthegeek> visik7: are they networked?
[09:40] <jordan_> dr_willis oki so install XFCE and how to chose XFCE on start ?
[09:40] <dr_willis> comment out.. :P
[09:41] <visik7> clintonthegeek: more or less
[09:41] <dr_willis> jordan_,  its in the Session Menus.
[09:41] <trappist> dr_willis: that could be bad
[09:41] <visik7> clintonthegeek: isn't there kickstart or I'm wrong ?
[09:41] <dr_willis> jordan_,  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:41] <TheGateKeeper> steve444: probable is as it remembers what you last used, but I have no idea where it is or what it is called
[09:41] <soulrider> uhm, the other day they posted about a  driver for NTFS that apparently is the ebts one around
[09:41] <jordan_> dr_willis i have kubuntu its no problem ?
[09:42] <soulrider> i think it had a 3 in the name
[09:42] <soulrider> does anyone know?
[09:42] <zappix> ok
[09:42] <zappix> thanks.....
[09:42] <soulrider> i think  FUSe was needed to install it
[09:42] <steve444> TheGateKeeper: Thanks again. I'll do some further reading.
[09:42] <dr_willis> jordan_,  trivial.. no problem I install gnome/kde/xfce  as the first thing on every new install.
[09:42] <BluesKaj> trappist, http://pastebin.ca/113783
[09:42] <TheGateKeeper> steve444: someone else might, rephrase your question and ask again :-)
[09:42] <clintonthegeek> visik7: hmm... i'm not really experienced in network deployment, but yes, i'm reading that ubuntu does support kickstart
[09:42] <jordan_> dr_willis OKI thanks, do you thing XFCE it's faster then KDE ?
[09:42] <trappist> BluesKaj: that's the whole thing?  there's nothing before it?
[09:43] <dr_willis> jordan_,  depends onthe hardware/
[09:43] <dr_willis> I perfer kde
[09:43] <BluesKaj> that's what synaptic generates
[09:43] <clintonthegeek> visik7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KickstartCompatibility
[09:43] <nix> whois nix
[09:43] <trappist> BluesKaj: try it on the console, as in apt-get install
[09:43] <visik7> clintonthegeek: yes but this page doesn't explain anything
[09:43] <steve444> Anyone - can a session (default desktop such as KDE, GNOME) be defined by editing a file somewhere?
[09:43] <TheGateKeeper> steve444: just a guess kdm.conf
[09:43] <trappist> steve444: /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:44] <trappist> steve444: that selects gdm or kdm
[09:44] <jordan_> dr_willis hmm p4 2,4ghz 756 ddr and 9800pro i think it"s oki for xgl/compiz
[09:44] <steve444> trappist: thanks I'll take a look
[09:44] <scotty> hey. I'm interested in installing Kubuntu (I have the discs) but someone told me that 30% of the time, the partitioner nukes your hard drive. Is this true?
[09:44] <clintonthegeek> visik7: hmmm.... i see what you mean
[09:44] <trappist> steve444: ~/.dmrc too, for actual desktop
[09:44] <dr_willis> jordan_,  i would avoide xgl/compwiz  -  unless you just want to play withit.
[09:45] <dr_willis> scotty,  ive never heard of it doing so
[09:45] <clintonthegeek> visik7: have you read over the generic or other-distro based kickstart guides?
[09:45] <BluesKaj> trappist, http://pastebin.ca/113786
[09:45] <visik7> no
[09:45] <clintonthegeek> it's probably a lot of the same stuff
[09:45] <rsosborn> Can anyone tell me how to install oscommerce on ubuntu?
[09:46] <rsosborn> I tried but I can't figure it out
[09:46] <visik7> ok I'll check it out
[09:46] <rsosborn> I have LAMP set up already
[09:46] <TheGateKeeper> scotty: only time I had trouble was with a Maxtor that was bad/corrupted
[09:46] <scotty> Maxtor?
[09:46] <mwe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove kdelibs-bin. wont that break KDE?
[09:46] <dr_willis> mwe,  i  doubt it.
[09:47] <mwe> I thought it was the base for kde. I guess not then
[09:47] <clintonthegeek> visik7: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s06.html#id2519042 is for breezy, but looks more practical
[09:47] <TheGateKeeper> scotty: Maxtor hard disk (maxtor is a make like seagate, western digital etc)
[09:47] <aep> i have a problem with my resololtion. the card is some ati (dinno) running in vesa . i run 800x600 wirthout problems but 1024x768 goes to some kind of virtual screen (you can scroll the edges) but no way to get it real 1024x768
[09:47] <dr_willis> nwe could be its going to install a newer ond.
[09:47] <mwe> dr_willis: it says it will remove it
[09:47] <scotty> Oh, okay
[09:47] <dr_willis> aep,  its thinking the monitor is only able todo  such a low res.
[09:48] <dr_willis> aep,  check your monitor settings.
[09:48] <scotty> Would you guys recommend using a partitioner software rather than the one that comes with Kubuntu?
[09:48] <scotty> Like PartitionMagic
[09:48] <aep> dr_willis, nope
[09:48] <dr_willis> I never reccomend partition magic.
[09:48] <dr_willis> :P
[09:48] <scotty> why not?
[09:48] <dr_willis> a live cd + gparted is handy
[09:48] <clintonthegeek> visik7: so.... it looks like you make a kickstart file, throw it on a webserver on the network, and at boot time on the ubuntu install disk, type ks=(ipaddress)/kickstarfile.cfg to start things rolling
[09:48] <dr_willis> scotty,  $$ for one..  they screwed me over once for another.. :P
[09:49] <grothesk> scotty: PartitionMagic is crap!
[09:49] <dr_willis> scotty,  and the live cds out can do the same job for free
[09:49] <TheGateKeeper> scotty: dapper uses gparted
[09:49] <scotty> I'm worried about my hard drive, though.
[09:49] <scotty> My dad will kill me if his files get nuked.
[09:49] <dr_willis>  Tips to install.. Backup impirntant stuff, scandisk/defrag.  use live cd + gparted to resize if you are worried about the installer..  then use the installer.
[09:49] <grothesk> It b0rked several partions here. It' a kind of magic... >:-(
[09:50] <dr_willis> could just toy with the live cd.
[09:50] <TheGateKeeper> scotty: got money to buy another one and use a caddy?
[09:50] <aep> dr_willis, the card made 1600x1400 with standart config of ubuntu, just erm it flikkers becouse it used ati drivers for some realy old card. i use vesa now
[09:50] <clintonthegeek> GParted Live is absolutely great
[09:50] <aep> dr_willis, and modified it on my onw of course
[09:50] <clintonthegeek> saved me loads of work
[09:50] <aep> dr_willis, http://rafb.net/paste/results/7H9LZw95.html
[09:50] <scotty> TheGateKeeper, it would really be pointless ... I'm buying a new computer in about 10 months, and this one is a crappy one
[09:50] <uber_mort> Hi all!  I was wondering if anyone know why I can't seem to upgrade 82 of the new K packages out.  When I apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade it just says 82 not updated.
[09:51] <dr_willis> aep,  hmm.. ok ya lost me. :P when i installed the ati drivers - i had to use that kde screen/monitor config tool to set the res's right.
[09:51] <aep> dr_willis, this crashes
[09:51] <soulrider> waht NTFS driver do you guys sugget to read/write?
[09:51] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: what happens when you type apt-get install (the name of some of the packages it won't install) ?
[09:51] <uber_mort> lemme check
[09:52] <scotty> Another thing: When I run Kubuntu Live CD on my laptop, it doesn't recognize the driver for my wireless card, so that means no internet
[09:52] <scotty> Is there a way to fix this?
[09:52] <dr_willis> Depends totally on the brand of wireless card and its chipset
[09:53] <scotty> It's a cheap Dell wireless card
[09:53] <scotty> not sure about the chipset
[09:53] <clintonthegeek> can you plug the laptop into a wired network to begin with, then look for a solution online?
[09:53] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: there are howto's on the ubuntu forums concerning ntfs read/write
[09:53] <clintonthegeek> i.e. ndiswrapper
[09:53] <dr_willis> lspci  | less  and see what card it shows. :P
[09:53] <dr_willis> !networkmanager
[09:53] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[09:53] <soulrider> thanks TheGateKeeper
[09:54] <jordan_> dr_willis can I safty remove xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-deskop use apt-get remove ?
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: hope it helps :-)
[09:54] <dr_willis> jordan_,  that wont really remove anything . those are meta-packages
[09:54] <BluesKaj> trappist, you there ?...http://pastebin.ca/113786
[09:54] <timthelion> !java
[09:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:55] <jordan_> dr_willis so how to remove XFCE or KDE ?
[09:55] <dr_willis> jordan_,  not an easy way that i know of..
[09:55] <dr_willis> since they both are several dozenif not hundered packages
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> dr_willis: synaptic not do it as it knows dependencies?
[09:56] <dr_willis> it dont UNinstall all the little packages of a meta package - as far as i know.
[09:56] <timthelion> !Multiverse repository
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about Multiverse repository - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:56] <dr_willis> or course i never uninstall anything. :P
[09:57] <trappist> BluesKaj: sorry got busy for a minute - I've run into that problem before with openoffice, and it was a bear to fix.  deleting files won't do it though.  try apt-get removing all your openoffice.org packages, and installing fresh
[09:58] <uber_mort> clintonthegeek:  The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[09:58] <uber_mort>   ark: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1) but 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2 is to be installed
[09:58] <uber_mort> E: Broken packages
[09:58] <BluesKaj> apt-get rm openoffice.org .. ?
[09:58] <uber_mort> Does it have something to do that they're new packages for the new KDE release?
[09:58] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: hmmm... probably
[09:59] <clintonthegeek> i remember having problems like that a few months ago updating kde actually
[09:59] <trappist> BluesKaj: apt-get remove
[09:59] <dr_willis> could be a server is down?
[09:59] <uber_mort> clintonthegeek: Shouldn't it upgrade KDE though?  I'd like to use the newest KDE
[10:00] <BluesKaj> ok trappist
[10:00] <psynth> kubuntu or ubuntu, which is "lighter to run" ? with a laptop in mind ?
[10:00] <nix> psynth: ubuntu
[10:00] <dr_willis> how big a laptop?
[10:00] <fritsch> psynth: guess what the kubuntu channel might say?
[10:00] <Pablo> where do I change my mouse settings on my laptop? it has it set now where the far right side scrolls the page and it sucks
[10:00] <Pablo> is there a way to change it?
[10:01] <Pablo> touchpad^
[10:01] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: yeah, i know what you mean...
[10:01] <dr_willis> Pablo,  heh - i see people asking how to MAKE it do that all the time.
[10:01] <Pablo> ha
[10:01] <Pablo> I want it on the left side not right :P
[10:01] <psynth> but really its the same kernel right so is the KDE desktop lighter ?
[10:01] <uber_mort> is there a way to force an install?
[10:01] <psynth> or is it about the same ?
[10:02] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[10:02] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:02] <clintonthegeek> okay... i'm not sure, but what happens when you just apt-get install kdelibs4c2a?
[10:03] <SpAwN> scotty, i had it confuse my partions and it nuked everything i had be ware
[10:03] <SpAwN> scotty, if u use the live dvd to install...use the text mode to install...i only had probs when i used the gui installer
[10:04] <dr_willis> if you tell it to use all of hda , well thats what it will do. :P
[10:05] <SpAwN> dr_willis, i manualy did the partions and let me tell u....its said sda9 was sda5 anbd sda3 was sda6...it made my partion with everythng on it into a swap partion
[10:05] <SpAwN> it also labled the size of my partion wrong
[10:06] <dr_willis> :)
[10:06] <dr_willis> I had windows xp try to install to my USB thumb drive once.
[10:06] <berkes> oi. e'ning piratees.
[10:07] <jordan_> dr_willis install it's finish so now reboot computer and etner to XFCE ?
[10:07] <dr_willis> jordan_,  tip #1 - you rarely if EVER need to reboot.
[10:07] <dr_willis> Oh well.
[10:07] <dr_willis> ;P
[10:07] <dr_willis> jordan_,  tip #1 - you rarely if EVER need to reboot.
[10:07] <berkes> any commandline users of ifconfig here? I am trying to make my kubuntu act better (more automated) on network connections.
[10:08] <jordan_> one error but I'm use oper :http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firef       ox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[10:08] <SpAwN> dr_willis, lol i had the same prob...only winxp nuked my 120 external and tried installing on it
[10:08] <dr_willis> jordan_,  just logout  to the kdm/gdm screen.
[10:08] <trappist> berkes: might have better luck with a specific question
[10:08] <berkes> for one: is there a simple way to ensure that an ifconfig eth... up runs a dhclient?
[10:08] <trappist> berkes: specify it in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:08] <dr_willis> SpAwN,  then Xp decided to  make my usb-media reader start at C: and d: and so on for 14 letters... THEN windows installed to the next letter:  R:
[10:09] <trappist> berkes: and use 'ifup'
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> berkes: Why use ifconfig ? ip is easier to script I think
[10:09] <SpAwN> dr_willis, lol
[10:09] <berkes> h3sp4wn: yea, that is what I do, i am just trying to make it all a bit more "generalised". And to learn some linux ifconfig hackorty in the mean time :)
[10:09] <KaiHanari> berkes, yes
[10:10] <KaiHanari> berkes, i use ifconfig
[10:10] <jordan_> sorry how to  just logout  to the kdm/gdm screen. ? I'm lame i know :)
[10:10] <berkes> trappist: is ifconfig up not similar to ifup then?
[10:10] <jordan_> ctrl + alt _backspace
[10:10] <dr_willis> or use LOGOUT in the menus. :P
[10:10] <trappist> berkes: similar but not the same
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> berkes: Why not use 'ip' instead of 'ifconfig' though
[10:11] <berkes> h3sp4wn: what makes 'ip' better then ifconfig?
[10:11] <jordan_> how to listing radio on line in opera or XMMS ?
[10:11] <wckdkl0wn> what program will open .rmvb video files?
[10:11] <trappist> berkes: ip is newer and has lots more features
[10:12] <trappist> wckdkl0wn: my first guess is realplayer
[10:12] <berkes> trappist: sounds usefull.
[10:12] <trappist> wckdkl0wn: my second gues is, google :)
[10:12] <clintonthegeek> i think realplayer is in the new cannonical commercial software repository
[10:12] <wckdkl0wn> i tryed to install real player with sudo apt-get install realplayer but says its uninstallable
[10:13] <essal> realplay
[10:13] <wckdkl0wn> cant find package
[10:13] <trappist> I think realplayer is the package name, but you need the commercial repo(s) set up
[10:13] <trappist> or maybe it's just multiverse
[10:13] <clintonthegeek> here.... read this for realplayer http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/
[10:14] <grizzly> Is it possible to disable "copy on select"
[10:15] <grizzly> thatis i whenever I select text its gets copied to the clipboard, is it possible to disable that ?
[10:15] <trappist> grizzly: how would you want to copy, if you did that
[10:15] <grizzly> ctrl+c
[10:15] <trappist> grizzly: ctrl-c has a very different meaning than 'copy' in a lot of linux/unix apps
[10:16] <fritsch> grizzly: this is a cool feature, why disabling it?
[10:16] <couquinoux> franais?
[10:16] <trappist> couquinoux: #kubuntu-fr
[10:16] <grizzly> coz if I have to replace some text, I have to select  it
[10:16] <clintonthegeek> ctrl+c is generally the "exit immediatly" shortcut
[10:17] <grizzly> and thats not possible because iit gets copied to the clipboard!!
[10:17] <fritsch> grizzly: okay, got it#
[10:17] <couquinoux> thanks
[10:17] <grizzly> well i don't care if its ctrl+c or whatever.
[10:17] <clintonthegeek> grizzly: Klipper, the yellow cork-board thingy in the system tray, contains a list of all the stuff in the clipboard
[10:17] <Chani> blaa.
[10:17] <grizzly> besides you can alwats use mouse gesterus (khotkeyss) to copy text in a flash.
[10:17] <uber_mort> sooo yah, i guess adept updated part of the kde stuffs, but not all, so now konquorer doesn't work for me
[10:17] <slow-motion> n8
[10:18] <uber_mort> is there any way to force an upgrade?
[10:18] <trappist> grizzly: anyway it doesn't seem to be a configurable option.  it's a function of X, which would have to be edited (as in source code) and rebuilt and reinstalled.
[10:18] <Chani> ooh, 3.5.4? yay
[10:18] <fritsch> uber_mort: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:18] <clintonthegeek> so you can select something, select the thing to replace (and delete), and then use klipper to re-copy the thing you copied (although it's a pita)
[10:18] <grizzly> klipper kind of sucks, you have to press shift+insert after selecting, the text to be copied
[10:18] <uber_mort> I did that
[10:18] <uber_mort> it doesn't work
[10:18] <trappist> grizzly: that could probably be changed to ctrl-c
[10:18] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: did installing kdelibs4c2a he;[ any?
[10:19] <clintonthegeek> err. help any?
[10:19] <grizzly> trappist: how?
[10:19] <uber_mort> I can't install them clintonthegeek
[10:19] <Chani> hmm. how prone to insanity is dist-upgrade these days? I tried it with debian once and it did all sorts of weird things, including switching me from gnome to kde
[10:19] <uber_mort> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:19] <uber_mort>   kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1) but 1.2.0-0ubuntu5 is to be installed
[10:19] <uber_mort> E: Broken packages
[10:19] <fritsch> uber_mort: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:19] <clintonthegeek> argh... then what happens when you install libcupsys2?
[10:20] <trappist> grizzly: I dunno, poke around kcontrol/kdcop a bit and see if you can find it
[10:20] <clintonthegeek> ah yeah... you have apt-get update'd, right?
[10:20] <grizzly> trappist: k, thanks
[10:20] <fritsch> uber_mort: there were cups updates today
[10:20] <uber_mort> fritsch it won't update 82 packages, no matter what I tell it to do
[10:20] <fritsch> uber_mort: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:20] <uber_mort> and now I can't use like a lot of KDE apps because it updated them but not some dependencies
[10:21] <fritsch> uber_mort: can you paste me your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[10:21] <uber_mort> sure
[10:21] <steven_> trappist, when you select something with the mouse, do you know a way to past it like normal shift insert does?
[10:21] <uber_mort> !pastebin
[10:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:21] <grizzly> oh, I just found the problem!! the problem was that klipper was syncing the contents of the clipboard and the selction!!! Phew this is such a relief
[10:21] <aliasfred> !restricted
[10:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:21] <steven_> sorry, past is with your keyboeard
[10:22] <clintonthegeek> aha... so it was overwriting the select clipboard into the copy/paste clipboard?
[10:22] <Chani> hmm. I remember hearing htere was some package that'll pull in a bunchofstuff needed for development. anyone happen to know what it was?
[10:22] <dr_willis> build-essential
[10:22] <Chani> thanks :)
[10:22] <uber_mort> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19622
[10:23] <Chani> hrm. adept could do with better handling of wireless dropping out in the middle of a download
[10:23] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: whoa... you didn't have to add ALL the kde repositoreis
[10:23] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[10:23] <fritsch> uber_mort: uncomment this: #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[10:23] <fritsch> uber_mort: sorry
[10:24] <fritsch> uber_mort: what is said by apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:24] <Chani> oh, foo.
[10:24] <clintonthegeek> yeah... uber_mort:also  uncomment #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[10:24] <Chani> connection hasn't gone down, but adept stalled at 'waiting for headers (99%)'
[10:25] <Lord_Athur> I can't update my packages with apt-get, it doesn't work, it could be sth related to the servers I use, how can I make a list with the apt-get servers again?
[10:25] <Chani> all the actual downloads are 100% but it's not going anywhere
[10:25] <Chani> oh. it went back down to 87%. that progressbar is a teensy bit inaccurate :)
[10:26] <fritsch> uber_mort: and the kde reps are too much, one is sufficent, ill edit it only, okay?
[10:27] <uber_mort> ok, I'll take some out ;)
[10:28] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't killall adept* kill all adept relate process ?
[10:28] <Raven301> How would you remove KDE 3.5.4 and put kde 3.5.3 back?
[10:29] <soulrider> Raven301: did KDE 3.5.4 give you trouble ?
[10:29] <uber_mort> fritsch: K fixed the sources, but now its still not upgrading them
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Just use ps | grep | awk | xargs - then you can almost always get rid of them all
[10:29] <Raven301> soulrider: yes ... that's why I want to go back
[10:29] <uber_mort> fritsch: tried dist-upgrade and -f install
[10:29] <soulrider> i think ill upgrade to 3.5.3, im still in .2 :P
[10:29] <hagus> I am a linux newbie - (even though I have tried it several times) - and have an HP1100 printer.  I cannot understand why I cannot print to it even though it appears in my list of printers.
[10:30] <zappix> !printers
[10:30] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:30] <fritsch> uber_mort: edited your sources.list
[10:30] <fritsch> this is now "readable"
[10:30] <hagus> ty ubotu :)
[10:30] <fritsch> please try this one
[10:30] <zappix> !usb
[10:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:30] <zappix> ;-;
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Something like ps aux | grep adept | cut -d: -f1 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9 (will almost always work better then using killall in my experience)
[10:31] <uber_mort> fritsch: did you edit the paste bin I used?  Can I just refresh and copy / paste?
[10:31] <zappix> !internet
[10:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about internet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:31] <zappix> ;-;
[10:31] <zappix> !USB
[10:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about USB - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:31] <zappix> T_T
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Just make sure you have got all the pids before adding the xargs bit
[10:31] <zappix> !802.11g
[10:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about 802.11g - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:31] <zappix> ;-;
[10:32] <Ibanez> Hi all....am very very new to Linux and ubuntu...have just left Windoze behind me...
[10:33] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I just took off the * which seems to work
[10:33] <fritsch> uber_mort: no! just reload
[10:33] <fritsch> uber_mort: and paste, but save yours before
[10:33] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: refresh, and at the bottom is a link to a revision
[10:33] <clintonthegeek> err... ammendment
[10:34] <clintonthegeek> fritsch: you took out quite a few repositories too, like beerorkid's compiz repo?
[10:34] <fritsch> uber_mort: mmmh you use other packages from "other" sources, conflicts are possible
[10:34] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: i took out the uncommented
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I stopped using killall because sometimes there are related things which killall doesn't find
[10:34] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: added the dapper backports
[10:34] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: this file was in no way readable
[10:34] <clintonthegeek> ah... k
[10:34] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Well seems to have worked
[10:34] <fritsch> uber_mort: conflicts are very common if you use third party sources
[10:34] <clintonthegeek> fritch: haha... yeah, it was a mess
[10:35] <uber_mort> fritsch: Just saved your revision.  I'll try it now.
[10:35] <clintonthegeek> that's probably what happened... package conflicts from too many 3rd party repos
[10:35] <fritsch> uber_mort: first apt-get update
[10:35] <fritsch> uber_mort: after that apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:35] <fritsch> uber_mort: it is important to let the apt-get update run finish
[10:36] <clintonthegeek> now... uber_mort might already have his installation borked though, even if the repo's are gone now, right?
[10:36] <crazy_penguin> good night
[10:36] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: yes :-)
[10:37] <fritsch> uber_mort: everything clear?
[10:37] <uber_mort> fritsch: Yay!!! Its working :)
[10:37] <fritsch> uber_mort: no errors?
[10:38] <fritsch> uber_mort: you are doing dist-upgrade now?
[10:38] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: congrats!
[10:38] <gnomefreak> fritsch: did you get the kde-settings update yet?
[10:38] <uber_mort> fritsch: none!  Thanks so very much :)
[10:38] <fritsch> gnomefreak: no?
[10:38] <fritsch> gnomefreak: is it in the official reps?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> fritsch: check for it. you might have to --force-overite :(
[10:38] <fritsch> gnomefreak: where is the package to test?
[10:38] <soulrider> !nvidia
[10:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:38] <gnomefreak> its in the 3.5.4 repos
[10:38] <gnomefreak> fritsch: its on apt
[10:39] <fritsch> gnomefreak: okay, here it is not suggested to me
[10:39] <fritsch> which version?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> kde-systemsettings
[10:39] <gnomefreak> hold on ill check
[10:39] <clintonthegeek> hey... while i'm here, does anyone else get loads of strange errors during an apt-get install, from debconf?
[10:39] <fritsch> gnomefreak: this is my installed 0.0svn20060512-0ubuntu1
[10:39] <gnomefreak> 0.0svn20060803-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:39] <gnomefreak> maybe due to edgy
[10:39] <gnomefreak> nvm :(
[10:39] <gnomefreak> i keep forgetting
[10:40] <fritsch> gnomefreak: no, not suggested at all for me - no new version
[10:40] <gnomefreak> yep its edgy package
[10:40] <gnomefreak> sorry
[10:40] <clintonthegeek> stuff like "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169", followed by Major opcode:  147, yada yada?
[10:40] <fritsch> gnomefreak: k, no problem
[10:40] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: this is normal, you do not have a wacom tablet, or?
[10:40] <clintonthegeek> nope, i don't
[10:40] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: this is because of the wacom device section in your xorg.conf
[10:41] <fritsch> uber_mort: you recognized also the new amarok packages?
[10:41] <clintonthegeek> fritsch: actually, i do recall seeing something like that in my xorg.conf
[10:41] <uber_mort> fritsch: ugh!  Now its still saying 82 not upgraded (though it did upgrade something else)
[10:41] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: the default dapper xorg.conf has it
[10:41] <host-one> ita
[10:41] <clintonthegeek> fritsch: aha! thanks a lot
[10:41] <fritsch> uber_mort: try this sudo apt-get install "one of the packages" he keeps back
[10:42] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: you saw it?
[10:42] <clintonthegeek> yup
[10:42] <clintonthegeek> and will remove
[10:42] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: if you delete it, remember to remove it "very down" in the section too
[10:42] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: if not, kdm won`t come up again
[10:42] <wahjava> hi channel
[10:42] <uber_mort> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:42] <uber_mort>   kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1) but 1.2.0-0ubuntu5 is to be installed
[10:42] <uber_mort> E: Broken packages
[10:43] <wahjava> can anybody tell me how do I use my Ekiga account in KPhone ??
[10:43] <wahjava> :-S
[10:43] <clintonthegeek> oh... also, every 5 or 6 reboots, X will backup my xorg.conf file (which uses the closed nvidia 3d drivers), such as "xorg.conf.20060711180723", and make a new one using the open non-3d drivers
[10:43] <fritsch> uber_mort: sudo apt-get install libcupsys2
[10:43] <fritsch> clintonthegeek: this i do not know
[10:44] <uber_mort> tried that too
[10:44] <clintonthegeek> which i then have to overwrite again to get 3D back... it's driving me crazy
[10:44] <uber_mort> libcupsys2 is already the newest version.
[10:44] <uber_mort> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 82 not upgraded.
[10:44] <clintonthegeek> fritsch: hmm, ah well... it's not so big a deal
[10:44] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: pastebin what's not updated
[10:44] <uber_mort> right-o
[10:45] <xvx> Hell-o Under-World!
[10:45] <fritsch> uber_mort: Version: 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06 <- this is the ubuntu version to go
[10:46] <Stardog> evrytime I try to download the driver for my printer, i get the errormsg that i maybe havent got the rights to download it... anyone know y that happends?
[10:47] <uber_mort> pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19630
[10:47] <XVampireX> Hi
[10:47] <XVampireX> I have a question regarding shipit
[10:47] <uber_mort> fritsch: Not sure what you mean.  I just tried to sudo apt-get install libcupsys2, and it told me it was the newest version, but KDE says it needs a newer one.
[10:48] <fritsch> uber_mort: do: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[10:48] <XVampireX> Can I somehow order it to the mail post?
[10:48] <fritsch> ah, i understand, it`s your sources.list
[10:48] <fritsch> uber_mort: do you have /etc/apt/preferences file?
[10:48] <fritsch> uber_mort: what is written in there?
[10:49] <uber_mort> fritsch: Its empty
[10:49] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  mail post?
[10:49] <XVampireX> dr_willis, well, post office, whatever
[10:50] <XVampireX> My point: Not home mail
[10:50] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  you mean a P.P. box ?
[10:50] <fritsch> uber_mort: changed your apt-source list again
[10:50] <dr_willis> PO Box
[10:50] <XVampireX> I guess
[10:50] <fritsch> uber_mort: please try the new on
[10:50] <dr_willis> enter the PO Box address - I dont see why they wont deliver to one.
[10:50] <XVampireX> dr_willis, I ordered through shipit on june... It hasn't arrived yet
[10:50] <digitalslacker> anybody care to help setting up a widescreen monitor to preferably not look like garbage?
[10:51] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  I always download it. :P  find a friend with a fast connection.
[10:51] <Stardog> evrytime I try to download the driver for my printer, i get the errormsg that i maybe havent got the rights to download it... anyone know y that happends?
[10:51] <clintonthegeek> okay... just upgraded to 3.5.4... will restart X, back in a sec
[10:51] <fritsch> uber_mort: sht. is going really strange
[10:51] <dr_willis> digitalslacker,  what monitor/card? theres a 'modeline generator web site' that can  help ya get the right entry for your xorg.conf
[10:51] <fritsch> uber_mort: do you get errors while apt-get update
[10:52] <XVampireX> dr_willis, The problem is that I also downloaded it from a friend, today, a few minutes ago... came home, the CDs didn't work (And for some reason it didn't work AT ALL on his computer..)
[10:52] <uber_mort> fritsch: nope
[10:52] <fritsch> uber_mort: you use now the again updated version?
[10:52] <digitalslacker> dr_willis: that site wants a lot of information I don't have
[10:52] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  check the cd. whats on it?
[10:52] <uber_mort> fritsch: I am trying it right now
[10:53] <XVampireX> dr_willis, yeah, I checked it, it didn't burn well :P
[10:53] <dr_willis> digitalslacker,  most of the time the defaults work for me there. :P i just set the res and the 9:13 or whatever
[10:53] <fritsch> uber_mort: wait!
[10:53] <fritsch> sorry, dated up again
[10:53] <fritsch> uber_mort: but it has to work now :-)
[10:53] <uber_mort> fritsch: it didn't give me errors
[10:53] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  you dident make a cd with a ubuntu.iso on it as a single file - did you?
[10:53] <fritsch> uber_mort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19633 <- use this one
[10:53] <XVampireX> dr_willis, No, it loads fine, just not when it tries to load live cd
[10:54] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  bummer.. not sure if you can do a text install from that live cd.. or if you have to have the alternate-install cd.
[10:54] <fritsch> uber_mort: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (both sudo)
[10:54] <dr_willis> I always get the alternate install cd - since i perfer the text based installer.
[10:54] <uber_mort> updating now
[10:54] <fritsch> dr_willis: i do so too
[10:54] <XVampireX> dr_willis, nevermind, I'll just order through shipit, again... though I think someone stole my previous order
[10:55] <fritsch> XVampireX: could be, it has just not arrived yet
[10:55] <sorush20> is there anyway that the dependencies when not found by ./configure would be automatically installed using apt-get ?
[10:55] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  or check the magazine rack. for linux mags. they proberly include a copy.
[10:55] <XVampireX> fritsch, I ordered on june
[10:55] <fritsch> XVampireX: last year it lastet nearly 3 month for me
[10:55] <dr_willis> shipit - is not known to be fast. :P
[10:55] <fritsch> XVampireX: got breezy 2 month before dapper
[10:56] <fritsch> uber_mort: what happens now?
[10:56] <uber_mort> fritsch: Its taking a long time to update, says waiting for headers (its at 99%)
[10:56] <XVampireX> fritsch, Hmm, weird.
[10:56] <dr_willis> could order a copy of ubuntu and the other cd's and other disrtos from a place like cheapbytes.com
[10:56] <fritsch> uber_mort: normal, needs more than 4 minutes
[10:56] <fritsch> uber_mort: mirror little bit down, but sould work
[10:56] <clintonthegeek> aha... just loaded kde 3.4.5, got a new icon in Kontact for multisynk, which errors because multisynk isn't installed!
[10:57] <uber_mort> fritsch: yes its moving again
[10:57] <fritsch> uber_mort: moving?
[10:57] <fritsch> uber_mort: does it upgrade now?
[10:57] <uber_mort> fritsch: its still getting package lists
[10:59] <clintonthegeek> argh.. stupid question: which synchronization system is the new one? obsoleting all the rest?
[10:59] <uber_mort> fritsch: its still downloading package lists :P
[10:59] <clintonthegeek> kitchensynk? multisync? syncml?
[11:00] <clintonthegeek> oh wait... it was opensync, wasn't it
[11:01] <dr_willis> WashTheSync
[11:01] <uber_mort> fritsch: its at 99% on archive.ubuntu.org again hehe
[11:01] <clintonthegeek> lol
[11:02] <fritsch> uber_mort: i have to leave
[11:02] <uber_mort> fritsch: Alrighty, I appriciate the help a lot, so thank you :)
[11:03] <clintonthegeek> uber_mort: so... when i was update'ing it took FOREVER on archive.ubuntu.org as well
[11:03] <clintonthegeek> i ctrl+c'd it and tried again, and it worked, although i don't know if you wanna try that yet
[11:05] <uber_mort> clintonthegeeks: It appears as though everything is working :)
[11:06] <clintonthegeek> that's good
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> uber_mort: have you just installed KDE 3.5.4?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151), connection timed out
[11:09] <host-one> make
[11:09] <host-one> make install
[11:09] <host-one> cd
[11:09] <host-one> cd..
[11:10] <host-one> ieee
[11:10] <host-one> 802.11
[11:10] <host-one> abg
[11:10] <host-one> root
[11:10] <host-one> su
[11:10] <host-one> capo di cazzo
[11:10] <Mrono> lay
[11:11] <gabo> hola
[11:11] <gabo> soy novato
[11:12] <host-one> tua madre is a troietta
[11:12] <gnomefreak> guys english in here
[11:12] <BluesKaj> !es
[11:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:12] <host-one> guys del cazzo l'inglese te lo ficchi nel culo
[11:12] <BluesKaj> !it
[11:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:13] <soulrider> !easysource
[11:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:15] <nemo__> can anyone be of assistance with "Winetolls"?
[11:15] <Hawkwind> nemo__: The experts in #WineHQ probably could
[11:16] <wolfmanz> whats the command to get the kernel version ?
[11:16] <aliasfred> wolfmanz: uname -r
[11:16] <wolfmanz> thanks i knew it was uname something lol
[11:17] <trappist> man uname helps in those situations
[11:17] <nemo__> thanks
[11:18] <alleeEdgy32> wolfmanz: any reason not to try 'uname --help' in this case ;)
[11:18] <wolfmanz> never thought about the --help part :D
[11:19] <trappist> *cough* man page *cough*
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> interactively uname -a is all you would need - maybe if its for a script uname --help may be useful
[11:22] <alleeEdgy32> anyone used RAID1 during dapper install?  Here it refuses to boot:  1st can't find /dev/md0. then when I change it to /dev/sda2  unknown filesys ...
[11:23] <jmichaelx> after typing 'sudo apt-get update', what is the command to install all of the updates?
[11:23] <aliasfred> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:23] <jmichaelx> aliasfred: ty
[11:24] <trappist> dist-upgrade
[11:24] <aliasfred> trappist: what is the difference ?
[11:25] <dr_willis> dist is for major upgrading! :P
[11:25] <alleeEdgy32> aliasfred: upgrade will never remove/add pkgs, but hold back pkgs
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> alleeEdgy32: have you had a look round the ubuntu forums?
[11:25] <trappist> aliasfred: dist-upgrade will install *all* the updates, including those that require some packages to be removed, kernels, etc.
[11:25] <aliasfred> oh ok thansk
[11:26] <alleeEdgy32> TheGateKeeper: not yet,  raid sync just finshed and I reboot.
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> alleeEdgy32: you might have more luck there :-) seen odd bit & pieces on RAID
[11:27] <bgrimm> Anyone familiar with Automatix, evvery time I run (from the menu icon) it goes thru the 3 splash screeens then flashes & closes the next window (the console window to continue with password), anyone have ideas on how to fix that or what may have happened?
[11:28] <sorush20> hi guys , its taking a long time for the adept to start to download
[11:28] <zappix> Um
[11:28] <sorush20> what is trying to do?
[11:28] <zappix> Connect to the server? :P
[11:28] <zappix> Do you see any progress?
[11:28] <captainbraille> Everytime I try to start Adept I get this "because another process is using the packaging system database" How do I close everything so I can use Adept again?
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: yep it's good at breaking your system
[11:28] <sorush20> zappix: no I just have to wait about 30 sec or more for the download to start and after that its good ..
[11:28] <zappix> Ah
[11:29] <zappix> Then why are you worrying? :P
[11:29] <zappix> It works :P
[11:29] <zappix> It just has to connect to the server
[11:29] <zappix> and be all
[11:29] <zappix> I'm downloading this.
[11:29] <DaSkreech> captainbraille: Ctrl+Esc
[11:29] <bgrimm> :) I figured as much, I thought perhaps it could be something I did, like accidently trying to run it from a console prompt, etc. would it be worth trying a remove & reinstall.
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: what specifically do you want to install?
[11:30] <zappix> DaSkreech: Aha, so THERE it is
[11:30] <DaSkreech> zappix: :)
[11:30] <captainbraille> DaSkreech: alright 'Process Table' now what?
[11:30] <bgrimm> I've used it before to get the audio codecs working with amarok
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Do you see anyting called adept?
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: personally I would not touch it with a 10ft pole
[11:31] <captainbraille> DaSkreech: nope there is no adept in the list
[11:31] <DaSkreech> captainbraille: Do you have an apt-get/aptitude running?
[11:31] <bgrimm> sure. It does seem quite dangerous, but has worked for me in the past. This install, well, it just didn't work.
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: nice and simple, run the xine engine, install libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs > bgrimm
[11:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:32] <bgrimm> ok, I'll check into that, thanks.
[11:32] <captainbraille> DaSkreech: I don't think so I haven't started them, how do I make sure?
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: look at home page to install w32codecs za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:33] <captainbraille> DaSkreech: There is a lot of "getty" and "hald-addon" -- Is that bad?
[11:34] <Bragi_> no
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[11:37] <bgrimm> yep, got taht installed, working on w32codecs from that link you noted.
[11:38] <soulrider> !pastebin
[11:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:38] <bgrimm> (i removed automatix), did an apt-get install libxine-extracodecs, now I'm following along to wget the deb package for w32codecs.
[11:39] <grothesk_> bgrimm: Get yourself a nice sources.list...
[11:40] <cpk2> is there any benefit to using apt-get source instead of just normal apt-get?
[11:40] <soulrider> is therea ny way to edit the repo list without adding line by line
[11:40] <soulrider> maybe a text file
[11:40] <Daskreech2> cpk2: You get the source
[11:41] <bgrimm> grothesk: here is my sources.list  - http://rafb.net/paste/results/JbsmPI32.html - any recommends?
[11:41] <cpk2> you can just get the source from the project site anyways...
[11:41] <grothesk_> Well... Mine is much longer.
[11:41] <cpk2> soulrider: use that easysource link
[11:41] <bgrimm> :)
[11:41] <soulrider> not that
[11:41] <soulrider> i mean to edit them
[11:42] <soulrider> not just get them
[11:42] <soulrider> but instead of adding one by one in adept
[11:42] <cpk2> bgrimm:
[11:42] <Daskreech2> soulrider: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <soulrider> add thema ll at the same time
[11:42] <cpk2> pressed enter on accident
[11:42] <soulrider> thanks
[11:42] <cpk2> bgrimm: you probably dont need backports enabled
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: this is what I use, the PLF repos need correcting to work: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> Has the plf not been shutdown ?
[11:43] <grothesk_> bgrimm: http://www.phpfi.com/136998
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> the w32codecs in debian multimedia is newer in anycase
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: no I thought that but they just need correcting, info on my little home page :-) http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> The stuff in debian-multimedia is newer in any case
[11:45] <grothesk_> w32codecs: 1:20060611-0.0
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> (just rebuild any multimedia stuff you need)
[11:50] <cpk2> whats the command to figure out what kernel version you are running?
[11:51] <mwe> wont removing kdelibs-bin hose KDE?
[11:52] <trappist> deja vu
[11:52] <trappist> cpk2: uname -r
[11:52] <mwe> I'm afraid to let apt do it
[11:52] <dr_willis> mwe,  if it does.. you reinstall kde...
[11:52] <dr_willis> big deal. :P
[11:53] <trappist> 16:16 <wolfmanz> whats the command to get the kernel version ?
[11:53] <ep> I don't know how to access a ntfs partition /media/hda1 I get "permission denied". I think its already mounted (noob here)  I I don't know how  to browse it using sudo and or as a super-user
[11:53] <trappist> don't think I've ever seen that twice in one month, let alone an hour
[11:53] <cpk2> trappist: thanks
[11:53] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[11:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:55] <allee> TheGateKeeper: silly me I better fix grubs root parameter not kernels  root=   option.  Now it works ;)
[11:56] <dr_willis> update-grub gets confused on my system. :)
[11:56] <dr_willis> it thinks the root drive is hda when its actually hdc for some reason
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> allee: remind me what works?
[11:57] <allee> TheGateKeeper: booting from raid1 (after dapper install)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> trappist, I managed to fix my Openoffice install problem in synaptic by removing" Not Installed (residual config)" pkges . Then installing the pkges normally ... and it worked !
[11:57] <trappist> BluesKaj: excellent
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> allee: cool :-)
[11:57] <soulrider> wher can i see whats hte latest kernel that was released ?
[11:57] <soulrider> !kenrel
[11:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about kenrel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:57] <allee> TheGateKeeper: install wrongly used (hd0,0) instead of (hd0,1)  md0=/dev/sd{a,b}2 here
[11:58] <BluesKaj> just for the record , trappist , in case someone else runs into a simsilar prob :)
[11:58] <cpk2> soulrider: just go to kernel.org
[11:58] <soulrider> oh ok
[11:58] <trappist> soulrider: apt-cache policy linux
[11:58] <trappist> oh like THAT
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> allee: ooops :-) glad you got it working
[11:58] <trappist> you used to be able to finger @kernel.org but it looks like they turned that off
[11:59] <allee> TheGateKeeper: me too ;)
[11:59] <BluesKaj> so there is a kernel upgrade on the repos today ?
[11:59] <trappist> yes
[11:59] <trappist> good luck getting it
[11:59] <soulrider> yea
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ok good to know
[11:59] <soulrider> apparently i downloaded it, but i did uname -r and im still using the old one
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> allee: only ever used RAID on a windows server, and that was going back a few years now
[12:00] <allee> TheGateKeeper: now the interesting part can start: setup FAI server:)
[12:00] <cpk2> soulrider: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> allee: FAI ??
[12:00] <soulrider> cpk2: adept isnt showing any updates
[12:00] <BluesKaj> well, I won't bother right now ...I'm puffed out from cutting the lawn and wrestling with my balky old mower :)
[12:00] <allee> TheGateKeeper: fully automated installation.  (apt-cache search fai-)
[12:00] <dako> I am having a problem with adept.
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> allee: ahh
[12:01] <cpk2> soulrider: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing?
[12:01] <epimer> anyone know where akregator keeps its feed list?
[12:01] <noxs> hi there
[12:01] <soulrider> im insatlling somethign else, im gonna need to wait until adept is done
[12:01] <soulrider> just a few mins
[12:01] <host-one> #cosenza
[12:02] <sorush20> hi guys is it just me or is the downloaded file here .tar.gz file http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/juploadr/jUploadr-1.0-linuxGTK-i386.tar.gz?use_default=kent
[12:02] <dako> I upgraded to kde 3.5.4 and in the middle of the upgrade it stopped on me.I rebooted the system. I still have some upgrades, but cannot get into adept. When I try I get this error "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one"
[12:03] <trappist> ah there it is
[12:03] <trappist> soulrider: finger linux@kernel.org
[12:03] <cpk2> dako: look for adept in ps aux
[12:03] <dako> where is that I am kinda new at this
[12:03] <cpk2> dako: open a terminal and type ps aux
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> dako: sudo killall adept
[12:04] <trappist> adept is one of about a dozen things that could be causing it
[12:04] <soulrider> whast finger?
[12:04] <dako> i tried the sudo I got no process killed
[12:05] <bgrimm> Gatekeeper.: Manually installing libxine and grabbing that w32codec.deb package worked great thank you.
[12:05] <cpk2> !easysource
[12:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> dako: remove the lock (If you have since rebooted)
[12:05] <Daskreech> h3sp4wn: Whats new in the debiain w32codecs?
[12:05] <trappist> soulrider: it's an ancient unix utility to read a user's .plan file
[12:06] <dako> how do I remove the lock, sorry for the questions
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> bgrimm: pleased to hear it, much safer to install exactly what you want :-)
[12:06] <soulrider> ah
[12:06] <soulrider> fingering someone isnt too fu... :/
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> dako: Are you certain that there are no open programs using the database ?
[12:06] <soulrider> fun*
[12:06] <dako> i see one that says adept notifier
[12:06] <noxs> is there another repository for flashplugin-nonfree as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/?
[12:07] <Daskreech> trappist: Did you give me that list?
[12:07] <noxs> cause i cant get it..
[12:07] <Daskreech> Oh Yeah I remember Flash
[12:07] <Daskreech> What was the other thing?
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> !flash
[12:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:08] <noxs> archive.ubuntu.com is very slow or completely unreachabel
[12:08] <noxs> ble
[12:08] <noxs> ah!! it works
[12:08] <noxs> great
[12:08] <dr_willis> its having issues it seems. :P
[12:08] <soulrider> !nvidia > dek
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> dako: dako: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock