[12:01] <maccam94> running easyubuntu could help too
[12:01] <noxxle> cant i just use a command to synce them
[12:01] <maccam94> noxxle: enable all the extra repositories, as well as other useful things ;-)
[12:01] <noxxle> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages) I get this message in synaptics
[12:01] <Strykyr> can someone please tell me how to get ubuntu to recognize the tcl thats already there?
[12:01] <warren_> does anyone know how to get pcmcia support in ubuntu?
[12:02] <maccam94> warren_: it should be automatically installed during the setup process
[12:02] <tgelter> so nobody has 5.1 surround sound working?
[12:02] <warren_> it is installed but my card isnt recognized
[12:02] <Strykyr> can someone please tell me how to get ubuntu to recognize the tcl program thats already there?
[12:02] <scrappy_> warren_: is there a specific card not working?
[12:02] <maccam94> warren_: what card is it?
[12:02] <warren_> soundblaster
[12:03] <amortvigil> how to edit users in console?
[12:03] <pedda> Is there a HOWTO for installing phpmyadmin for Ubuntu Dapper?
[12:03] <warren_> i thought i read somewhere that pcmcia support went out the window when the new kernel came out
[12:03] <pedda> Or a link in the support forum?
[12:03] <panth> warren_, dropping pcmcia support?
[12:04] <zan> what do the % params stand for in the krusader shortcut: "krusader -caption "%c" %i %m"?
[12:04] <maccam94> warren_: is there support for your card by alsa?
[12:04] <warren_> i beleive so
[12:04] <Lobster> n8
[12:04] <LeetWanker> does anyone have a fix to get ubuntu to boot off an it8212 controller?
[12:05] <Android> is there a good flash editor availiable for ubuntu?
[12:05] <Intangir> anyone know why DIFFERNET versions of software, and some software not showing up at all ... are in my synaptic.apt, etc listings on two different computers
[12:05] <_Spire_> Any help with this? "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly"
[12:05] <Intangir> that were set up the saaaame freaking way
[12:05] <Intangir> i need libmotif3
[12:05] <_Spire_> That happens when I try to launch the theme manager in gnome
[12:05] <Intangir> i cant freaking get it on my 2nd computer, i have ALL THE SAME REPOS!!!!!
[12:05] <maccam94> _Spire_: did you just do an update or what?
[12:05] <Intangir> its just not listed on my newer install?
[12:05] <_Spire_> maccam94: I installed an update and some new themes
[12:05] <LeetWanker> _Spire_: have you tried installing Metacity?
[12:05] <maccam94> ah
[12:05] <zan> what do the % params stand for in the krusader shortcut: "krusader -caption "%c" %i %m"?
[12:06] <maccam94> _Spire_: try syncing the repositories and checking if there are any more updates
[12:06] <_Spire_> LeetWanker: I'll try that :P
[12:06] <_Spire_> maccam94: okies
[12:06] <scrappy_> Intangir: look at the /etc/apt/sources.list files on the two computers
[12:06] <maccam94> _Spire_: i'm pretty sure you have Metacity, otherwise you wouldn't have any windows opening up properly. it's probably just newer or older than the theme manager
[12:06] <Strykyr> can someone please tell me how to get ubuntu to recognize the tcl program thats already there?
[12:07] <_Spire_> maccam94: ok
[12:07] <toxicaway> Can someone please tell me about Ubiquity? If i install Ubuntu with Ubiquity on my HDD (from a livecd), will it come with a boot manager?
[12:08] <linuxd00d> !grub
[12:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:09] <linuxd00d> toxicaway does this awnswer you question !grub
[12:09] <mwe> Strykyr: do you have tcl installed?
[12:09] <ayeee> http://pastebin.ca/112409 Anyone know how i FIX this problem?
[12:09] <_Spire_> maccam94: I reinstalled and updated metacity. still same problem (yes, I did restart metacity)
[12:10] <toxicaway> linuxd00d: No I doubt it does. Thing is I'm going to install nubuntu livecd onto my Hard drive with the Ubiquity program. I want to make sure I can select which partition to install along with a boot manager so i dont loose and can still boot into Windows XP
[12:11] <rufus> ok just intstalled ubuntu and i have a GMA900 .  Do i have graphics driver/accelartion installed by default?
[12:11] <scrappy_> rufus: whats a gma900
[12:11] <linuxd00d> toxicaway: i suppose you could either use the windows boot manager or you could use grub
[12:11] <rufus> Intel
[12:11] <LeetWanker> does anyone know how to install ubuntu with it8212 controller support so that it might boot after install?
[12:11] <rufus> grahpics
[12:11] <rufus> media adapter
[12:11] <rufus> 900
[12:11] <rufus> its onboard graphics chip
[12:12] <gnomefreak> !enter > rufus
[12:12] <Pump> hi, i need help with a pinnacle pctv stereo
[12:12] <linuxd00d> pump: more info??
[12:12] <Intangir> why does my synaptic not list libmotif3 or libmotif-dev?
[12:12] <Pump> i want to make it work under ubuntu
[12:12] <Intangir> it lists it on my other computer that has THE SAME REPOSITORIES!!!
[12:12] <lurker99> ayeee, looks to me like you never told apache where it was.   but i'm not current on the topic.  try apache.
[12:13] <amortvigil> i want to change my apache2 dir/var/www into another dir hwo could i do that?
[12:13] <linuxd00d> Pump: !wine
[12:13] <rufus> so i do not have to get grpahics drivers for an INTEl gma 900 it should have the on default
[12:13] <Strykyr> can someone please tell me how to get ubuntu to recognize the tcl program thats already there?
[12:13] <linuxd00d> !wine
[12:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:13] <Pump> i load the saa7134 module, but i can't see anything
[12:13] <linuxd00d> do u have wine?
[12:13] <Pump> will it run fine with wine?
[12:13] <scrappy_> rufus: yeah. you might have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <tgelter> !nvsound
[12:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvsound - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:13] <linuxd00d> Pump: yes if it is a windows app
[12:13] <noxxle> i still cannot get the totem updates, any ideas?
[12:13] <rufus> scrappy_: ok thats it htoguht? i do not have to recompile a module or anthing
[12:14] <scrappy_> nah
[12:14] <Pump> but what about the drivers?
[12:14] <rufus> scrappy_: i did that i just want to make sure. ok sounds gret
[12:14] <panth> noxxle, Probably have to wait a few hours or maybe tomorrow...
[12:14] <rufus> scrappy_: you use xgl at all?
[12:14] <noxxle> oh is that all?
[12:14] <panth> some update didn't happen to the mirrors I guess
[12:14] <lurker99> ayeee, also: in exim there's a config option to set a default domain.  tried that?   /j #exim
[12:14] <linuxd00d> pump: it may install the drivers needed best thing is just see if it works
[12:14] <panth> I haven't checked different repos, but the us ones are missing those atm
[12:15] <Pump> ok, can you please help me? i'm now downloading wine
[12:15] <ayeee> lurker99: how do i know what configfile it is? its many :(
[12:15] <ayeee> in /etc/exim4?
[12:15] <linuxd00d> Pump: come to #Ubuntu-classroom
[12:15] <noxxle> i also have a problem with my volume. The master volume does not affect the other volumes such as LINE. so when i turn master all the way down, it can still hear sounds from Line or any other volume
[12:15] <Pump> ok
[12:15] <panth> noxxle, what computer?
[12:15] <lurker99> ayeee:  that's why i run a monolithic exim config file...  :-)
[12:16] <noxxle> im on a laptop, its using HDA intel driver
[12:16] <panth> noxxle, try "Headphone"
[12:16] <panth> seriously :)
[12:16] <ayeee> monolithic? i not that good in english
[12:16] <rufus> any one want to explain to me setting up XGL
[12:16] <panth> On my dell lappy, I have to adjust "Headphone" and "Mono"
[12:16] <noxxle> where is the headphone option
[12:16] <_Spire_> maccam94: I reinstalled and updated metacity. still same problem (yes, I did restart metacity)
[12:16] <lurker99> ayeee:  yes/ etc/exim4.    monolithic = single,solid
[12:16] <_Spire_> maccam94: oops, I said that twice
[12:17] <ayeee> oh :/
[12:17] <BlackFence> is ubuntu just hype?
[12:17] <panth> noxxle, in the mixer
[12:17] <ayeee> lurker99: you not know by default?
[12:17] <panth> BlackFence, no, it's a real distribution
[12:17] <scrappy_> rufus: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[12:17] <afief> BlackFence: if you are a developer, know everything about kernel compilation and manual software installation... maybe it is
[12:18] <tgelter> where is the module configuration file in ubuntu?
[12:18] <danf_1979> Im a developer, and its not...
[12:18] <BlackFence> afief?
[12:18] <afief> BlackFence: yes?
[12:18] <maccam94> BlackFence: i've got ubuntu installed on five normal people's computers, they don't even know much of anything about windows, and they like it fine
[12:18] <noxxle> i cannot find "the mixer" ive found plenty of other options
[12:19] <danf_1979> Ubuntu is as linux as any other...
[12:19] <BlackFence> so we're not normal is what you're saying?
[12:19] <BlackFence> lol
[12:19] <maccam94> _Spire_: weird, i dunno what else the would be the problem :-\
[12:19] <panth> noxxle, on the volume thing on the bar, right click and "Open volume control"
[12:19] <noxxle> panth i did that
[12:19] <panth> Hmm
[12:19] <_Spire_> maccam94: thanks anyways
[12:19] <tgelter> anybody? module configuration file is located where?
[12:19] <Strykyr> can someone please tell me how to get ubuntu to recognize the tcl program thats already there?
[12:19] <panth> Well, all soundcards have diff channels.. on mine the "master" is named 'headphone'
[12:19] <lurker99> ayeee, see http://pastebin.ca/112425
[12:20] <noxxle> i have a PCM channel
[12:21] <panth> Mine defaults to Master, Headphone, Mono, and PC Speaker
[12:21] <wubrgamer> where is the defaul t location for the www folder in an apache install on ubuntu ?
[12:21] <panth> I'd just fiddle with the channels until you find what works.
[12:21] <jvai> hey uall, sorry 4 bein late
[12:21] <vbgunz> Anyone do an upgrade today and have vmware fail miserably?
[12:21] <azureal> damn, where were you?!?!
[12:21] <Twist> Does anyone know where/if I can find a DEB package of libjingle for ubuntu?
[12:22] <noxxle> i have a pcm and LINE and if i mute pCM programs can still make sound through line
[12:22] <lmosher> is it possible to use apt-get source to grab an older version? i.e. I want 0.9.16 not 0.9.18
[12:22] <noxxle> vice versa
[12:22] <BlackFence> I meet this chick called ubuntu, small world
[12:22] <BlackFence> we had great sex, she had a really hairy beaver.
[12:23] <jvai> lol
[12:23] <jvai> odd
[12:24] <azureal> lol didnt notice he'd already left =P
[12:24] <danf_1979> lol
[12:24] <J2D2> Is there a way in ubuntu I can have programs start when i start my system
[12:25] <azureal> desktop?
[12:25] <scrappy_> ach they are
[12:25] <tgelter> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.0-0310/ReleaseNotes.html#Configuration  -   under "Configuring the audio driver" and "Other distributions" does anyone know what the module configuration file it is talking about is?
[12:26] <lmosher> J2D2, if you're using gnome you can add commands under system>preferences>sessions then under "startup programs" tab just click "add" and type whatever command you want.
[12:26] <RyanTMulligan> How do I install the ximagesrc gstreamer plugin
[12:26] <tgelter> I guess a better link is: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.0-0310/ReleaseNotes.html#Audio_Other_distributions
[12:26] <Cjneq> hi
[12:26] <tgelter> anyone know what file to edit?
[12:26] <azureal> j2d2: and for fluxbox it should be in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[12:27] <J2D2> thank y'all
[12:27] <lmosher> J2D2, and if you want you can edit your xsession file, you can add it in your initscritps.. etc. etc. :P
[12:28] <Cjneq> Do you know how I can install on ubuntu kde?
[12:28] <azureal> lol
[12:28] <Cjneq> Maybe some polish know links?
[12:28] <azureal> basically, cjneq, it's "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[12:28] <Cjneq> but ....
[12:28] <azureal> cjneq: use "apt-cache search <packagename>" for info
[12:28] <nalioth> !tell Cjneq about kubuntu
[12:29] <lmosher> Cjneq, you want to install KDE? You could install a different OS (it's called kubuntu) but you could also do "sudo apt-get install kde
[12:29] <azureal> nalioth: not install it; install progs on it
[12:29] <nalioth> lmosher: it's actually "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:29] <jonathan_> hola seores
[12:29] <Cjneq> i konw kubuntu, but i want gnome and kde
[12:29] <lmosher> azureal, Actually I think he meant kde, if he's polish it could be a word-order thing :P
[12:30] <Cjneq> KDE is K Developement Enviroment and i want to install it.
[12:30] <lmosher> nalioth, oops, sorry I've never done it so I wasn't sure... Cjneq there's yoru answer "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[12:30] <nalioth> Cjneq: the package "ubuntu-desktop" will get you gnome and other things, and "kubuntu-desktop" will get you kde and such
[12:30] <Cjneq> ok
[12:30] <lmosher> good luck :)
[12:30] <Cjneq> thx
[12:30] <azureal> since we're talking about these things, might as well ask how to remove packages such as Nano?
[12:31] <azureal> i think that's a good example... looking for one that will ask you to remove ubuntu if you say yes =P
[12:31] <Cjneq> sorry, i want gnome and kde, not only kde
[12:31] <mcphail> azureal: ubuntu ot ubuntu-desktop?
[12:31] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello.... any amd64 users out there?
[12:32] <Cjneq> i was amd64
[12:32] <azureal> one sec, i'll make sure
[12:32] <RyanTMulligan> I'm having a problem when compiling the latest version of Istanbul. When I finish compiling it and I run it, I get this error in a dialog box: You do not have the ximagesrc GStreamer plugin installed    .:
[12:32] <Sleeping_Sloth> does anyone know if there is a solution to amd64 linux and flash player?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Sleeping_Sloth: gplflash
[12:32] <Cjneq> slepping_
[12:32] <azureal> mcphail: to be removed--ubuntu-base, ubuntu-standard
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !flash > Sleeping_Sloth
[12:33] <Cjneq> i think you will install i386. i had amd64 and nothink was working
[12:33] <mcphail> azureal: i suspect they will be metapackages, but would suggest you don't remove them as they'll be important in dist-upgrades
[12:33] <RyanTMulligan> !flash > RyanTmulligan
[12:34] <BHSPitMonkey> I need to make a modified Ubuntu desktop install CD with a few packages added in. Any ideas on how this might be possible?
[12:34] <azureal> mcphail: see? it's sad that one does not have _full_ control
[12:34] <RyanTMulligan> DHSPitMonkey, yes it is, you should look to downloading the ORM images from the repository
[12:34] <azureal> mcphail: and i don't remember getting asked what packages i wanted during install, either
[12:34] <mcphail> azureal: you have full control. But with full control comes full responsibility :)
[12:34] <eternalswd> how do I get mplayerplug-in to work in Firefox?
[12:35] <BHSPitMonkey> !orm
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about orm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:35] <jbaloul> ever since upgrading my kernel (ubuntu) 2.6.15-26-686, my mic stopped working...i tried everything i know, and can't make it work, can anyone help?
[12:35] <RyanTMulligan> maybe I'm using the wrong term for it...
[12:35] <azureal> mcphail: ok, then, how do i make it so that a user will not have to enter a password w/ a sudo command?
[12:35] <BHSPitMonkey> OEM?
[12:35] <tulio> !okies
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about okies - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:35] <tulio> !xgl
[12:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:35] <jbaloul> Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[12:35] <puzio> Hello all - does anyone here have experiance tieing a Samba PDC into a Windows 2K3 domain forest?
[12:35] <RyanTMulligan> BHSPITMonkey: it's called alternate install CD
[12:36] <BHSPitMonkey> RyanTMulligan, that's not what I'm looking for
[12:36] <BHSPitMonkey> I have one of those, anyway
[12:36] <azureal> i don't think you can... it's an ubuntu thing...
[12:36] <RyanTMulligan> alrighty.
[12:36] <azureal> @mcphail
[12:36] <BHSPitMonkey> but thanks
[12:36] <jbaloul> anyone?
[12:37] <mcphail> azureal: i'm sure you can, but i'm no expert on sudo
[12:37] <azureal> mcphail: you can't =)
[12:37] <jbaloul> mic,  2.6.15-26-686, creative problems?
[12:37] <BHSPitMonkey> jbaloul, sound works?
[12:37] <puzio> or even just establishing a trust relationship between two domains - one samba one Win 2k3
[12:37] <BHSPitMonkey> (playback)
[12:37] <jbaloul> BHSPitMonkey yes
[12:37] <kawsy> Having an annoying issue with the nvidia driver on my 6800gs.. Works great, totally stable, untill I try to quit gdm, reboot or switch to one of the other ttys
[12:37] <mcphail> azureal: there is no "can't"
[12:37] <azureal> mcphail: sudoers changes are apparently ignored...
[12:37] <Xordan> Hi, I just updated a bunch of packages on dapper, and now I get this error when trying to run a installer: /usr/lib/pango/1.5.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:37] <kawsy> then the whole computer freezes
[12:37] <BHSPitMonkey> jbaloul, are you SURE you don't have a setting wrong? (Capture volume)
[12:38] <jbaloul> i tried everything
[12:38] <kawsy> keepboard stops responding too
[12:38] <Xordan> I assume the updated removed some needed lib... so do you know what package I can get this from?
[12:38] <BHSPitMonkey> jbaloul, bad mic perhaps?
[12:38] <Xordan> Oh, that's the 32-bit version of the lib I assume.
[12:38] <jbaloul> nope, tested on a different pc and was working before, plus i can here myself if i unmute the mic
[12:38] <gfxstyler> hi again
[12:38] <wizzomafizzo> hi, wondering if anyone could help me. the sound in ubuntu isn't working properly for me, normally it works but as soon as plug in headphones the sound cuts out until i unplug them. I'm guessing it's to do with the driver as it works fine in linux
[12:38] <mcphail> azureal: then hack the source and get it to do what you want it to do. Why on earth you would want to run sudo without a password is beyond me anyway
[12:38] <cocos> hello, now gedit is my default editor but i want the default editor to be nano is this possible?
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> jbaloul, if you can hear yourself, then the mic is working...
[12:39] <Sp4rKy> does anyone could help me with dual screen issue ?
[12:39] <gfxstyler> the best thing ever
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> it's the program you're trying to record in
[12:39] <azureal> mcphail: it's just one of those points against your 'there is no can't '
[12:39] <Xordan> nobody knows?
[12:39] <jbaloul> i know, but i can't record, capture, skype, or anything
[12:39] <mcphail> azureal: but you _can_ - this is open source
[12:39] <jbaloul> arecord in console doesn't even record
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> look at the audio settings in those programs... not sure what to tell you
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> it obviously is getting something
[12:40] <azureal> also, why, when i run visudo, does NANO come up
[12:40] <mcphail> cocos: export VISUAL=nano is your .bash-profile
[12:40] <mcphail> *in
[12:40] <jbaloul> BHSPitMonkey i think that is a hardware thing
[12:40] <jbaloul> that you can hear yourself
[12:40] <azureal> i suddenly remembered my tumultuous anger for nano
[12:40] <jbaloul> the OS can't recognize the input though
[12:40] <BHSPitMonkey> <3 nano
[12:40] <cocos> mcphail: export VISUAL=nano or VISUAL=nano?
[12:41] <mcphail> cocos: the first one
[12:41] <azureal> mcphail: same question, but vi
[12:41] <vbgunz> anyone do an update and completely kill vmware in the process?
[12:41] <mcphail> azureal: same answer
[12:42] <azureal> mcphail: vi will work (not vim)
[12:42] <azureal> ?
[12:42] <cocos> mcphail: but i would like to be nano as default editor when i click on a file in nautilus
[12:42] <mwe> vbgunz: you need to recompile the vmware modules if you update the kernel
[12:42] <mcphail> cocos: right click on the file and choose preferences
[12:42] <euler> alguem fala portugues
[12:42] <kawsy> Anyone else have the nvidia driver freeze the console when you switch out of X?
[12:42] <Pump> euler: i speak spanish
[12:43] <mwe> vbgunz: vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko
[12:43] <vbgunz> mwe: I've done everytime and everytime it worked... this time, recompiling, uninstalling, installing, etc don't work... nothing works this time... first time I've ever seen this
[12:43] <kalosaurusrex> how do I install scanimage in dapper?
[12:43] <euler> ok pump
[12:43] <kalosaurusrex> !package scanimage
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about package scanimage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:43] <cocos> mcphail: ofcourse great thanks
[12:43] <mwe> vbgunz: well does lsmod confirm the modules are loaded?
[12:43] <azureal> so, is anyone a sudoers expert?
[12:43] <vbgunz> lsmod?
[12:44] <mwe> vbgunz: yes
[12:44] <mwe> vbgunz: type lsmod see if vmmon and vmnet shows
[12:44] <azureal> btw, thx mcphail, export VISUAL=vi worked =)
[12:44] <Knurg> hi. got a problem with x-crash. please msg me if you care to help. tnx
[12:44] <micahcowan> azureal, I'm sure several here are.
[12:44] <noxxle> how can i stream the realplayer files at www.amazon.com
[12:44] <mcphail> azureal: when you chose Ubuntu, you chose a package-managed distribution. This removes some of your control, but brings great benefits. If you want absolute control, use something like LFS
[12:44] <vbgunz> mwe: yes, lsmod shows them but the app never loads up :\
[12:45] <azureal> mcphail: blah! =P
[12:45] <bigbill52a> i installed both gnome and kde...just today kdm became corrupt and did not let me log into either gnome or kde...i had already given myself a root password, so i was able to load gdm from a terminal prompt....how do i fix kdm?
[12:45] <mwe> vbgunz: thr -26 kernel ?
[12:45] <Xordan> Is there a channel just for amd64 ubuntu users?
[12:45] <micahcowan> mcphail: what sorts of loss of control are you referring to? I never felt that way (though controlling things can be, in certain ways, more difficult than they'd have to be...)
[12:45] <vbgunz> mwe: 2.6.15-26-686
[12:45] <Knurg> someone know the shell command to config X in ubuntu?
[12:45] <devhen> ?
[12:45] <kawsy> bigbill52a,: maybe dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Knurg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:46] <azureal> ok, my sudoers question is this:   why doesnt  "<user> ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL"  work?
[12:46] <Pump> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:46] <mcphail> micahcowan: azureal is concerned that when he tries to remove nano, ubuntu wants to remove a couple of other meta-packages along with it
[12:46] <bigbill52a> thanks i will try it
[12:46] <Knurg> thanks alot gnomefreak
[12:46] <micahcowan> azureal: define "work"?
[12:46] <kawsy> bigbill52a,: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:46] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:46] <mwe> vbgunz: I heard it broke for some people. maybe they changed the memory setting or something vmware doesn't like that. what does vmware say if you try ro start it from a terminal
[12:46] <r000t> i really need help setting up a virtual interface (with dhcp) in dapper could someone help me please
[12:46] <pedda> I have a fresh LAMP install (Ubuntu 6.06 dapper), trying to install phpmyadmin.
[12:46] <azureal> micahcowan: that user still has to enter his password to run sudo commands
[12:46] <Pump> r000t: install dhcp-server
[12:46] <vbgunz> mwe: i tried that but it is long... I would have to paste it, one sec
[12:46] <pedda> Is this it?
[12:46] <pedda> Keep the following packages at their current version:
[12:46] <pedda> libgd2-xpm [Not Installed] 
[12:46] <pedda> php5-cgi [Not Installed] 
[12:46] <pedda> php5-common [5.1.2-1ubuntu3 (now)] 
[12:46] <pedda> php5-gd [Not Installed] 
[12:46] <pedda> php5-mcrypt [Not Installed] 
[12:46] <mcphail> azureal: i'm no sudo expert, but did you do this with visudo?
[12:46] <pedda> phpmyadmin [Not Installed] 
[12:46] <pedda> Score is 47
[12:47] <pedda> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]  y
[12:47] <gnomefreak> pedda: dont paste in here
[12:47] <pedda> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:47] <pedda>   apache2 apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils gnupg libapache2-mod-php5 libapr0 libmysqlclient15off
[12:47] <azureal> mcphail: yes...
[12:47] <mwe> pedda: shut up
[12:47] <r000t> Pump, how would that help me
[12:47] <Pump> r000t: that's the server
[12:47] <mcphail> azureal: and you're sure that's the correct sudo syntax?
[12:47] <Xordan> Urr, can anyone see what I'm typing?
[12:47] <Pump> r000t: then you configure it
[12:47] <r000t> Pump, i just want a virtual interface to (get) an ip
[12:47] <micahcowan> azureal, I use /exactly/ that line on my system, and it works fine. Did you edit it via visudo?
[12:47] <azureal> i looked it up some days ago; i guess i'll make sure now as well
[12:47] <azureal> yes
[12:47] <jpatota> how do i copy my install cd on to the harddrive and use it an apt source
[12:48] <docgnome> what is the java class path for the sun-java5 packages?
[12:48] <Pump> r000t: oh, so you don't need the server
[12:48] <azureal> micahcowan: do you have any other uncommented lines of interest?
[12:48] <bigbill52a> be back after i test...
[12:48] <r000t> Pump, exactly
[12:48] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:48] <Pump> r000t: just configure it in gnome network panel, and select dhcp
[12:48] <bigbill52a> it gave me a choice between kdm and gdm and i picked gdm
[12:48] <Xordan> ok... I'll try the forums then...
[12:49] <r000t> Pump, i need to get a virtual interface that is eth0:0 to get an ip .. but it wont work
[12:49] <blup|patrick> n8
[12:49] <micahcowan> azureal, just an entry for root. Can you paste the contents of your sudoers file (if you don't mind) to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[12:49] <azureal> micahcowan: because I have a "Defaults !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn" line as well
[12:49] <r000t> Pump, trying to add an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:49] <Malachi> Is there a way I can have, say, a different icon theme, window border, and desktop background for separate sessions? I'd like my Compiz section to look different from my Gnome session.
[12:49] <azureal> and then also a root line
[12:50] <m3talc0re> hey, what's a good music player for ubuntu?
[12:50] <vbgunz> mwe: this is all: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1388
[12:50] <gekko`> m3talc0re: xmms
[12:50] <Malachi> m3talc0re: amoroK
[12:50] <Malachi> amaroK*
[12:50] <vbgunz> mwe: doesn't seem bad :(
[12:50] <toxicaway> how do i search for a file in bash?
[12:51] <mwe> r000t: I'd say use the front end in gnome if you're not comfortable editing the file by hand
[12:51] <m3talc0re> hmm
[12:51] <micahcowan> m3talc0re, I like xmms, many people like banshee(?), rhythmbox
[12:51] <mcphail> hoffa_: locate or find
[12:51] <Pump> r000t: have you tried with network-admin?
[12:51] <Malachi> m3talc0re: You could try Banshee as well. Or Rhythmbox.
[12:51] <mcphail> hoffa_: sorry - that wasn't for you
[12:51] <Malachi> m3talc0re: Or mplayer.
[12:51] <r000t> mwe, so how do i add eth0:0 ther then
[12:51] <m3talc0re> happen to know xmms or banshee's apt-get name?
[12:51] <mwe> r000t: eth0:0 ?!
[12:51] <IRCMonkeyX> anyone has experience, about linux kernel root security? what must be done for security ?
[12:51] <RyanTMulligan> Does anyone know about ubuntu's gstreamer plugins, specifically ximagesrc?
[12:51] <mwe> r000t: that's not an interface
[12:52] <Pump> r000t: there you have all the interfaces, you select eth0 and put dhcp
[12:52] <bigbill52a> thanks..i was able to bypass kdm and use gdm as my log on manager...
[12:52] <m3talc0re> i'll google it and see what i find
[12:52] <Malachi> m3talc0re: No, but I'm sure a Synaptic search will find it.
[12:52] <mwe> r000t:  you can add eth0 which is the name though
[12:52] <tjansson> I having problems installing ubutu on my laptop? I can't get past the menu and selecting a lamp install. It seems that kernel makes my computer restart
[12:52] <r000t> mwe, i need a virtual interface for a second ip
[12:52] <Malachi> Meh, gotta go.
[12:52] <mwe> r000t: eth0:0 is not a valid name
[12:52] <azureal> micahcowan: ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19513
[12:52] <Pump> r000t: as nwe says, then you put dhcp and that's it
[12:52] <mwe> r000t: I'm not familiar with that. sorry
[12:52] <r000t> mwe, you dont know what youre talking about
[12:53] <vbgunz> mwe: problems don't seem that serious, do they?
[12:53] <toxicaway> whats the command to search for a file in bash?
[12:53] <mcphail> toxicaway: find or locate
[12:53] <derrickh> is there a way to change which menu.lst GRUB reads?  i have two linux partitions (hda1 and hda3) and GRUB currently points at the menu.lst in hda3.  how can i fix this?
[12:53] <mwe> r000t: I said I'm not familiar with that buthead
[12:53] <Pump> gotta go, bye
[12:53] <r000t> mwe, virtual interfaces are extensively used to map more ip addresses to one interface
[12:53] <toxicaway> mcphail thanks!
[12:54] <mwe> r000t: I never had a need for that
[12:54] <r000t> mwe, i c.. no need for buthead though
[12:54] <pedda> I've tried to install phpmyadmin on a fresh LAMP install. However, it doesn't seem to work. I used this line sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin  How do I find out if it's been installed or not?
[12:55] <jhasse> How can i disable this animation which is shown when minimizing windows?
[12:55] <mnp> how do i get rid of an apt-get error message like: E: The package linux-image-2.6.17 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[12:55] <Dravas> I need the best Linux archive extractor that supports split and passworded RAR archives
[12:55] <mwe> vbgunz: what happens in the?
[12:55] <cocos> hi, is there anyone here whit a ATI Radeon 9800 pro that installed the ati driver succesfully? or is there maybe someone who has a good HOW-TO link for me?
[12:55] <vbgunz> mwe: ?
[12:55] <vbgunz> mwe: I pasted everything
[12:55] <mcphail> Dravas: unrar should be fine for that
[12:55] <blinker> I need someone to assist me in modifying my synaptics touchpad settings: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19514 where after the command "synclient-m100", f = 0 or 1 indicates the click status on the touchpad (I think). this is a feature I'm trying to diable
[12:56] <blinker> disable*
[12:56] <mwe> vbgunz: I mean does nothing happen or does it hang or what?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> jhasse,  ive heard theres some gconf setting you can mess with - but thats all i rember. :( heh.
[12:56] <Kachingo> Howdy, I'm new to linux, and I was trying to install a program. I was wondering how you add the path (?), so it can be run by typing the command into the command line?
[12:56] <micahcowan> azureal, for s&g, maybe try commenting out the Defaults line.
[12:56] <jhasse> Dr_Willis: hm.. okay, thx anyway
[12:56] <vbgunz> I get a starting taskbar button for a few seconds maybe (10-15)... then it exits... through terminal, I get all that feedback quick and nothing happens... at least vmware does not launch :(
[12:56] <cocos> Kachingo: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[12:57] <warren_> does acpi=off disable sound??
[12:57] <chtank> howdy people, I am about to give Ubuntu another try but have a question, perhaps you can answer it for me
[12:57] <jhasse> warren_: No
[12:57] <cocos> chtank: just ask :)
[12:57] <jhasse> warren_: it's a feature of the mainboard for saving energy
[12:57] <micahcowan> Kachingo: typing `PATH="$PATH:<new-path>"` at the command line (minus the `s) will change it for this session. Add that command somewhere in the file ~/.bashrc to edit it permanently.
[12:58] <mwe> vbgunz: hmm. I'm afraid I don't know what to do. the output you pasted is not fatal I think
[12:58] <jhasse> warren_: and also that your computer turns automaticly off when shutting down
[12:58] <azureal> micahcowan: no immediate effect...is there some command i need to run for it to re-read the sudoers file?
[12:58] <warren_> well the reason i asked is because i typed the output from dmesg into google and found that at least a few people used that boot option and suddenly didnt get sound
[12:58] <vbgunz> mwe: indeed it is surprising... not sure what happend :(
[12:58] <Kachingo> cocos: It's not a package in the repository
[12:58] <mwe> vbgunz: it's complaining about undefined symbols though
[12:58] <Kachingo> micahcowan: cheers! I'll try that
[12:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> !perl
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about perl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:58] <cocos> Is there anyone here whit a ATI Radeon 9800 pro that installed the ati driver succesfully? or is there maybe someone who has a good HOW-TO link for me?
[12:58] <vbgunz> I see *but* don't know what it means...
[12:58] <Dravas> What do I type to extract it from the Archive with the password
[12:58] <mwe> vbgunz: did the bonobo lib update?
[12:59] <InvisiblePinkUni> where can i find checksetup.pl? i'm trying to install bugzilla
[12:59] <micahcowan> azureal, shouldn't be, no... and you're editing via visudo, right?
[12:59] <cocos> Kachingo: make && make install & make clean is that what you mean?
[12:59] <mnp> how do i get rid of an apt-get error message like: E: The package linux-image-2.6.17 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[12:59] <jhasse> warren_: hm.,. I'm not sure..
[12:59] <warren_> can anyone help with this: PCI: IRQ 0 for device 0000:00:1f.5 doesn't match PIRQ mask  ?
[12:59] <vbgunz> mwe, not sure, I had plenty of updates *but* too many to track
[12:59] <azureal> micahcowan: naturally
[12:59] <chtank> I have Ubuntu 4.?? which I ran some time ago, and it is on my old Dell, but monitor is out of service, and I have also Ubuntu 5.04, which I have not tried yet,
[12:59] <mwe> vbgunz: it means vmware is calling a function that is not present in that version
[12:59] <vbgunz> ahh
[12:59] <mwe> vbgunz: does it work if you boot the old kernel?
[01:00] <vbgunz> yeah, but my boot menu is the same as it was before...
[01:00] <warren_> where did support for pcmcia go?
[01:00] <mwe> vbgunz: I'd use the old kernel and report a bug
[01:00] <warren_> my system doesnt recognize card after i installed ubuntu6.06 lts
[01:00] <vbgunz> mwe: I didn't upgrade the kernel... it must have been something else
[01:01] <Kachingo> cocos: That's compiling it from source isn't it? I downloaded the binary files. It's all installed I think, I just need to add the  PATH=.....
[01:01] <vbgunz> I only have one kernel in the boot option
[01:01] <mwe> vbgunz: maybe compare lsmod from the two kernels to see if something is loaded in one but not the other though I doubt it
[01:01] <mwe> vbgunz: oh
[01:01] <tjansson> my ubuntu install is failing - where should i look for help?
[01:01] <chtank> However, I have been and am talking to you from a PCLinuxOS which I am having problems but want to keep my files, I see that expert mode of install for of Ubuntu will safe all my Linux files
[01:01] <mwe> vbgunz: are you sure?
[01:01] <derrickh> if i have linux installed on two partitions and delete the partition which GRUB points to, how can i change it to where GRUB points at the other partition?
[01:01] <vbgunz> mwe: yes, am looking at menu.lst now :)
[01:01] <tjansson> It fails in loading the kernel
[01:01] <warren_> i can help you
[01:01] <jvai> maybe that's my prob w/ JAVA RME setting the path, it wont work 4 nada
[01:01] <mwe> vbgunz: well it get's updated you know?
[01:02] <kawsy> Anyone?  x crashes when switching to console with nvidia driver.. never crashes otherwise
[01:02] <warren_> unfortunately, i think its what is messing up my sound..
[01:02] <vbgunz> mwe: thank you so much. I will try to figure it out a bit later. I'll be back in a bit!
[01:02] <warren_> in grub, add the boot option  acpi=off
[01:02] <maddy> i've installed new mobo and now ubuntu doesnt boot
[01:02] <warren_> then continue
[01:02] <azureal> micahcowan: you have that %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL command as well?
[01:02] <azureal> line*
[01:02] <jvai> will downloading the java runtime environment from windows, then pointing it to wine work?
[01:03] <mwe> vbgunz: yes. finding out if it's a new kernel causing it would help a lot
[01:03] <mwe> jvai: I think not
[01:03] <micahcowan> azureal, I'm assuming you don't have an alias set for sudo, or somesuch? Do you get anything for "env | grep ^SUDO"?
[01:03] <jvai> snap!
[01:03] <mwe> jvai: try it though
[01:03] <jvai> java's broke
[01:04] <mcphail> micahcowan: could you paste your sudoers file?
[01:04] <jvai> i'll try it
[01:04] <klees> doing a sudo apt-get upgrade  tells me totem was left back
[01:04] <klees> anyone knows y?
[01:04] <micahcowan> azureal, on the system I'm currently on (plain debian), I don't have that line. But that brings up a good point about precedence, which I'll check into.
[01:04] <tjansson> warren_: it fails eventhough it say "install noapic"
[01:04] <klees> or how can i find out
[01:04] <azureal> nope
[01:04] <Xaero_Vincent> How stable is Ubuntu "snapshot" ?
[01:04] <Nuked> not at all?
[01:04] <azureal> micahcowan: you're running debian?!?! that's _not_ related then
[01:05] <noxxle> can ubuntu read java scripts on websites?
[01:05] <jvai> dl'ing freespire right now on a torrent, in starbuck's too, the dl rate increased when i set the upload rate to 1000. >:P
[01:05] <warren_> i know, but i had to type acpi=off exactly and in addition to that just to get it to boot
[01:05] <mcphail> noxxle: of course
[01:05] <warren_> i have no idea why that works but it does
[01:05] <chtank> yes, noxxle
[01:05] <azureal> micahcowan: the whole point was that it's strictly an ubuntu inconvenience
[01:05] <jrib> noxxle: a lot of browsers in ubuntu can
[01:05] <azureal> because of the fact that everything's centered around sudo
[01:05] <azureal> ...
[01:05] <noxxle> well firefox isnt, do i need to download something?
[01:05] <tjansson> warren_: Il try that :D
[01:05] <azureal> and now, dinner =)
[01:05] <chtank> actually it is the browser that reads javascript
[01:05] <jrib> noxxle: what website?
[01:06] <tjansson> warren_: :D
[01:06] <micahcowan> azureal, only at this moment. sudo works the same on both, and I never use root directly on debian (always sudo), so I don't really see the difference.
[01:06] <micahcowan> mcphail, in case you still wanted it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19517
[01:06] <noxxle> the fafsa website
[01:06] <noxxle> for student financial aid
[01:06] <micahcowan> azureal: try commenting out the %admin line (if you don't need it for other purposes)...
[01:06] <Xaero_Vincent> well has anyone here got Dapper then changed their sources.list to point to Etch and update all the installed packages?
[01:06] <zi3d4n3> Please i need help: Is it possible to install Yenc PowerPost in Ubuntu ??
[01:07] <micahcowan> azureal,  (just FYI) I'm planning on changing my work system over to Ubuntu very soon, so I can be a tad more helpful on this list. :-) ...I currently use it at home.
[01:07] <tjansson> warren_: Unfortunatly it just keeps rebooting after loading the kernel
[01:07] <azureal> hehe, just PM me, i'll be afk for dinner
[01:07] <jrib> noxxle: does this page work for you: http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/explorit/java/IntroJavaScript.html  do you get a prompt for your name?
[01:07] <warren_> blast!
[01:07] <noxxle> i found a java runtime with synaptics
[01:07] <azureal> but thx for the attempts micahcown
[01:08] <azureal> *micahcowan
[01:08] <noxxle> yes it does jrib
[01:08] <warren_> is this a live cd?
[01:08] <noxxle> so does that mean java should work?
[01:08] <jrib> noxxle: ah java and javascript are different things.  Is it java that you meant?
[01:08] <tjansson> it is the server i386 install cd
[01:08] <noxxle> i dont know, i just know the fafsa website isnt working fo rme
[01:08] <micahcowan> azureal, according to sudoers(5), the last entry applying to a user is applied: you might try putting the user-specific line after the %admin line.
[01:08] <noxxle> jrib that website you just posted asked me for my name
[01:09] <jrib> noxxle: Can you be more specific, is there a specific page that doesn't work?  the main fafsa site seems to work fine for me.
[01:09] <noxxle> it wont let me submit data, ill try again later
[01:09] <jvai> thatl ink asks 4 personal into!
[01:09] <jvai> for  the java
[01:10] <HellDragon> night jvai
[01:10] <noxxle> does ubuntu come with a backup program?
[01:10] <jrib> !backup
[01:10] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[01:10] <jvai> peac dragon
[01:10] <mcphail> azureal: moving the NOPASSWD line to the end of the sudoers file works
[01:11] <mcphail> micahcowan: see you got there first...
[01:11] <jvai> oo! is there a way that i can copy my ubuntu install, & create an iso of it? making a new cd?
[01:11] <micahcowan> mcphail: he indicated he may now be afk; I just PM'd him with our combined info. :-)
[01:11] <jvai> can i use knoppix to do it?
[01:11] <mcphail> :)
[01:12] <micahcowan> mcphail, I learned something new today :)
[01:12] <mcphail> micahcowan: yes - poorly documented syntax sucks...
[01:15] <jvai> wher's er1?
[01:19] <budluva> hello, can someone lend a hand here, i just had my first hard lock in ubuntu dapper, wondering where can i find the logs to look at what caused my crash???
[01:19] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me activate SSL in lftp?
[01:19] <mcphail> budluva: in the /var/log directory
[01:20] <budluva> mcphail: ya i know but what log?
[01:20] <jvai> system logs
[01:20] <marce59> hi ! I'm trying to start Apache  but when I browse to localhost there is a Alert "The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost."
[01:20] <mcphail> budluva: try /var/log/messages first, then /var/log/syslog etc
[01:20] <jvai> system tools ->system logs, is the /var/log
[01:21] <bl3ssing> can anybody tell me why Adept is comming only read only mode, please?
[01:22] <gekko`> bl3ssing: it's running without root permission
[01:22] <BioVorE> !ati
[01:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:23] <rufus> quick question just got xgl compwiz installed
[01:23] <rufus> anyone know why its slow i have a card that is supported
[01:23] <rufus> intel gma 900
[01:24] <BioVorE> Anyone know if the x1400 on Xorg 7 on ubuntu support xvideo extentions.. I followed that guide and it seems to work but I don't get xvideo or ati's open libs...
[01:25] <BioVorE> (ATI X1400)
[01:25] <rufus> anyone know how to make it so xgl and compqiz do not hog cpu and use the graphics chip instead
[01:26] <BioVorE> rufus: probably need to get your graphics card setup correctly..
[01:26] <rufus> BioVorE: how would one go about digging into this then?
[01:26] <NoZy> hi guys
[01:27] <simpo> hi! how can i force apt-get to create new config files ?
[01:27] <BioVorE> rufus: you have an ati or nvidia card?
[01:27] <rufus> nope intel GMA 900
[01:27] <rufus> its supported by xgl
[01:27] <BioVorE> simpo: dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>
[01:27] <rufus> Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller
[01:27] <Warbo> simpo: You will need to purge the package (remove it + configs) then reinstall. "sudo apt-get --purge remove package && sudo apt-get install package"
[01:27] <rufus> thats what i got
[01:27] <BioVorE> rufus: intel GMA 900 is a software render card.. so basicly.. your screwed
[01:28] <Warbo> Or use dpkg-reconfigure :)
[01:28] <bl3ssing> gekko`, how can I do it with root permission?
[01:28] <rufus> i have Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller
[01:28] <marce59> Firefox is working ok with internet sites, but refuse to connect to localhost, what can I do ?
[01:28] <gekko`> bl3ssing: kdesu adept
[01:29] <Warbo> marce59: Are you running a webserver?
[01:29] <rufus> BioVorE: so why is it listed as supported?
[01:29] <BioVorE> its working ant it..
[01:29] <rufus> ha
[01:29] <BioVorE> it just going to be slow
[01:30] <simpo> Wanderer->  BioVorE ; none of it works :/
[01:30] <marce59> I'm trying to configure apache, but when I shutdown the machine, the service 'fail' to shutdown (because httpd is not running), what can i put httpd up ?
[01:30] <rufus> okies well i apperciate you help!
[01:30] <Warbo> marce59: The scripts live in /etc/init.d, so try starting them manually (like "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" or equivalent)
[01:30] <BioVorE> rufus: I don't even bother with xgl anymore.. just a concept before its time I suppose..
[01:30] <marce59> thanks!
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> I agree BioVorE
[01:31] <warren_> how can i assign the right irqs to devices?
[01:31] <rufus> BioVorE: what do you use for sweet eye candy then?
[01:31] <BioVorE> warren_: bios handles irq assignments on PC's
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> Eye candy causes ocular cavities.
[01:31] <BioVorE> warren_: Its called plug and pray for a reason
[01:31] <jvai> lol
[01:31] <warren_> lemme explain my problem
[01:32] <warren_> i have to tell boot acpi=off else my kernel wont boot
[01:32] <rufus> BioVorE: they say aiglx works better with my card
[01:32] <warren_> that goofs up irq assignment
[01:32] <rufus> i might try that now
[01:32] <BioVorE> rufus: I don;t... Why eye candy a nice text console..
[01:32] <warren_> thus, i get no sound
[01:32] <rufus> hahahha
[01:32] <warren_> help!
[01:32] <rufus> true that iguess
[01:33] <orcdestroyer> hello... I cant mount some driver because show up for me that I don't have permission... I've already as a root, but it doesn't workout
[01:33] <orcdestroyer> what should I do about it?
[01:34] <NotWired> how do i run something during bootup everytime?
[01:34] <jrib> orcdestroyer: you mean partition, not driver?  What filesystem does it use?
[01:34] <jvai> oo! is there a way that i can copy my ubuntu install, & create an iso of it? making a new cd?
[01:34] <roostishaw> why do i keep getting http://pastebin.ca/112490 with http://pastebin.ca/112491
[01:34] <roostishaw> ?
[01:34] <meheren> how can I transfer all my setteings preferences bookmarks ect. from firefox on HD1 (backup HD) to HD0 (the HD i just cleanly installed dapper onto
[01:34] <orcdestroyer> jrib my CD driver
[01:34] <orcdestroyer> to mount my CD driver
[01:35] <toxicaway> Is there a list of all the softwares available in the Ubuntu Repository in some text format?
[01:35] <marce59> warbo !
[01:35] <mdirc> On Ubuntu I am running vncviewer (version 4), but when I connect to it I just get a grey screen with an X mouse ponter. Following is my /home/someuser/.vnc/xstartup file has
[01:35] <mdirc> unset SESSION_MANAGERexec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[01:35] <mdirc> [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ]  && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
[01:35] <mdirc> [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ]  && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
[01:35] <mdirc> xsetroot -solid grey
[01:35] <mdirc> vncconfig -iconic &
[01:35] <mdirc> xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
[01:35] <mdirc> #Setup VNC Server with Gnome
[01:35] <mdirc> mdirc: exec gnome-session &
[01:35] <jrib> NotWired: if you just want to run something when your user logs in, use system > preferences > sessions > startup.  If you want something actually during bootup, read 'man update-rc.d'
[01:36] <Warbo> marce59: Yeah? (sorry, I'm installing loads of stuff at the moment)
[01:36] <NotWired> okay jrib, thanks... it needs to run at bootup... as root
[01:36] <marce59> I 've tried to manually start apache, but there is a syntax error in httpd.conf, Action application/x-httpd-php "/usr/bin/php5.exe"
[01:36] <marce59>  (i put this line trying to configure php
[01:36] <orcdestroyer> jrib hello? Can you help me?
[01:36] <Warbo> "php5.exe"? Are you sure that exists?
[01:36] <marce59> why the line is wrong ?
[01:36] <jrib> orcdestroyer: I'm not sure I know exactly what you want, I don't know anything about cd drivers
[01:36] <longwave> marce59: how did you install php?
[01:36] <marce59> i check it
[01:36] <bl3ssing> gekko`, I've typed the command, but ... nothing appear here ... the cursor goes down under my abc@abc: -$ kdesu adept ....
[01:37] <marce59> i will check it
[01:37] <meheren> how can I transfer all my setteings preferences bookmarks ect. from firefox on hd1 (backup HD) to hd0 (the HD i just cleanly installed dapper onto)
[01:37] <toxicaway> Is there a list of all the softwares available in the Ubuntu Repository in some text format?
[01:37] <jrib> toxicaway: packages.ubuntu.com has a list somewhere
[01:37] <n3rdism> I've set up my new monitor and its running 1680x1050 just fine, xorg.conf is up to speed and I ran the xserver setup to adjust anything. But for some reason, when I try to play a movie, or start a game. the program closes; for instance VLC closes right after I load a movie into it. Can anyone help?
[01:37] <roostishaw> !pastebin > mdirc
[01:37] <toxicaway> jrib: oh okay
[01:37] <Warbo> marce59: "ls /usr/bin/php*"
[01:37] <Artan1s> orcdestroyer:Are you asking how to mount your CD Drive?
[01:37] <gekko`> bl3ssing: are you using kde?
[01:37] <orcdestroyer> Artan1s yes
[01:38] <bl3ssing> yes
[01:38] <marce59> it is just php5 ,  isn't it ? (because i'm new in Linux !)
[01:38] <bl3ssing> gekko`, yes.
[01:38] <bl3ssing> kdesu adept
[01:38] <bl3ssing> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[01:38] <Artan1s> orcdestroyer:Ok that is much different than a driver :-D
[01:38] <bl3ssing> gekko`, this is under root.
[01:38] <orcdestroyer> Artan1s when I try... ~you are note privileged to mount the volume ~
[01:38] <Artan1s> are you doing it in sudo
[01:38] <gekko`> bl3ssing: dont do it as root
[01:38] <longwave> marce59: well, there are two ways of running php5, either mod_php or cgi, and php5 on its own doesn't specify which
[01:39] <longwave> marce59: the best option is mod_php, install libapache2-mod-php5 and it should just work straight away
[01:39] <meheren> where all all of firefoxes conf files?
[01:39] <Warbo> longwave: I'll let you take over. I only know the /etc/init.d bit :)
[01:39] <sethk> $HOME/.mozilla
[01:39] <bl3ssing> gekko`, I've done it. Out of root, and appears the password edit field ... but the adept's still read only. :(
[01:39] <marce59> thanks !
[01:40] <meheren> how can I transfer all my setteings preferences bookmarks ect. from firefox on hd1 (backup HD) to hd0 (the HD i just cleanly installed dapper onto)
[01:40] <gekko`> bl3ssing: are you running some other application which blocks your sources.list, apt-get or another adept session?
[01:40] <orcdestroyer> can anyone help me?
[01:41] <Artan1s> orcdestroyer:once again, are you doing it in sudo?
[01:41] <marce59> and in the httpd.conf file, the line must be Action application/x-httpd-php "/usr/bin/libapache2-mod-php5"  ?
[01:41] <bl3ssing> as I know, there's noone opened, but it might be something hidden? I mean ... running without showing me?
[01:41] <longwave> meheren: the profile is stored in /home/username/.mozilla/firefox, you can find the bookmark files and things in there
[01:42] <meheren> longwave thx :)
[01:42] <gekko`> bl3ssing: check ps ax | grep adept
[01:42] <simpo> i have apache installed, i deleted /etc/apache and now i cant get it installed again what should i do ?
[01:42] <longwave> marce59: no, you just need to enable the module in the apache config
[01:42] <harisund> simpo ou deleted /etc/apache2 ? Manually?
[01:42] <longwave> marce59: run "sudo a2enmod php5" to switch it on, then restart apache
[01:42] <meheren> i was looking for a /home/(my usrname is meheren)/.movzilla-firefox.... :p
[01:42] <marce59> ok
[01:42] <simpo> harisund->  yes
[01:42] <meheren> *mozilla-firefox
[01:42] <harisund> simpo ... hmm.. so you want to restart from scratch I assume/
[01:43] <simpo> harisund->  yes :D
[01:43] <bl3ssing> gekko`, appeared:  5950 ?        S      0:01 adept_notifier
[01:43] <bl3ssing>  6682 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep adept
[01:43] <marce59> the prompt says that the module is already enable
[01:43] <bl3ssing> gekko`, what should I do know?
[01:43] <harisund> simpo do you know what all packages you have that are related? Like in PHP and MySQL pckages?
[01:43] <kernco> Are other people having errors updating the totem packages throught the auto-updater?
[01:44] <orcdestroyer> Artan1s now I did it
[01:44] <orcdestroyer> thx
[01:44] <orcdestroyer> :] 
[01:44] <gekko`> bl3ssing: try "kill -9 5950"
[01:44] <simpo> harisund->  only apache
[01:44] <Artan1s> orcdestroyer:lol
[01:44] <longwave> simpo: uninstall apache2-common with the purge option: "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common", then reinstall the apache2 package
[01:44] <bl3ssing> done
[01:44] <bl3ssing> gekko`, done.
[01:44] <bl3ssing> now?
[01:44] <bl3ssing> :)
[01:44] <harisund> simpo, longwave beat me to it :)
[01:44] <gekko`> kdesu adept
[01:44] <longwave> simpo: the configuration files belong to the -common package so purging that should remove the broken ones too
[01:45] <n3rdism> I've set up my new monitor and its running 1680x1050 just fine, xorg.conf is up to speed and I ran the xserver setup to adjust anything. But for some reason, when I try to play a movie, or start a game. the program closes; for instance VLC closes right after I load a movie into it. Can anyone help?
[01:45] <facugaich> alguien sabe q formato le doy a printf para mostrar un puntero
[01:45] <facugaich> ?
[01:45] <longwave> n3rdism: if you start vlc or something from a terminal, is there any output when the program closes? or anything in your X log?
[01:46] <n3rdism> longwave: xlog?
[01:46] <meheren> n3rdism, I think it's a problem with the game or vlc not x... have you tried a different game or a different media player (Mplayer, totem, xine)
[01:46] <bl3ssing> gekko`, THE SAME PB!
[01:46] <bl3ssing> :(
[01:46] <Artan1s> So, I'm pretty much a bad-ass
[01:46] <facugaich> facugaich: woops, wrong channel, sry
[01:46] <gekko`> bl3ssing: any error message?
[01:46] <n3rdism> meheren: vlc worked great before i changed things for the new monitor
[01:46] <mdirc> can anyone help me with vncviewer 4 configuration on ubuntu desktop 6.0.6
[01:46] <marce59> now, i'm running apache, but mozilla says "you have chosen to open prueba1.php " what should Firefox do with this file ?  open with php5
[01:46] <simpo> longwave, harisund Thanks a lot, i was purging "apache2" package only so this files couldnt be created :D
[01:47] <longwave> n3rdism: /var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar
[01:47] <JoseGosdin> Hello everyone, I am starting a Christian Ubuntu distribution.
[01:47] <JoseGosdin> It will include all the GNOME bible software such as sword.
[01:47] <viper550> Hello
[01:47] <jvai> oo k
[01:47] <viper550> Wanna see my new theme for Edgy?
[01:47] <Red_Life> Hello everybody. I am helping JoseGosdin in the development of the Christian Ubuntu Distro.
[01:47] <bl3ssing> gekko`, kdesu adept
[01:47] <bl3ssing> kbuildsycoca running...
[01:47] <bl3ssing> kapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem()
[01:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> where can i find checksetup.pl? i'm trying to install bugzilla
[01:48] <JoseGosdin> If anyone wants to help out, please join #christianubuntu and help spread the message of Christ and Ubuntu!
[01:48] <Red_Life> Yes, please.
[01:48] <viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic
[01:48] <n3rdism> !jesus
[01:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about jesus - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:48] <n3rdism> :/
[01:48] <AndyCooll> JoseGosdin: Is this related to the one on ubuntuforums?
[01:49] <meheren> n3rdism, still vlc might be goofing because of the new monitor... It just sounds more like a vlc then a X prob... ( I might be wrong...)
[01:49] <JoseGosdin> AndyCooll, Yes.
[01:49] <Red_Life> Yes, we are one and the same.
[01:49] <gekko`> bl3ssing: check ps ax | grep dcopserver
[01:49] <n3rdism> meheren: it may be
[01:49] <longwave> InvisiblePinkUni: look in /usr/share/bugzilla/lib
[01:49] <gekko`> bl3ssing: and kill any adept session again, if there is any
[01:50] <n3rdism> meheren: so what should i do?
[01:50] <AndyCooll> Been following that thread
[01:50] <lucas-> Do you people not care about His message?
[01:50] <jvai> *watchin swordfish dvd, starring hugh jacjman, john travolta*
[01:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> longwave: thanks longwave....
[01:50] <warren_> can someone tell me how to get pcmcia cards working   in ubuntu 6.06lts?
[01:50] <gekko`> jvai: + halle berry ! :p
[01:51] <jvai> yea! the ms berry
[01:51] <Jeruvy> yum, halle berry tastes great!  oop's sorry.
[01:51] <jvai> lmao
[01:51] <Jeruvy> forgot this is a family channel ;)
[01:52] <warren_> anyone tell me how to get pcmcia working in ubuntu?
[01:52] <jvai> lol. truu @ jeruvy
[01:52] <Jeruvy> :)
[01:53] <runes> good evening everyone
[01:53] <Jeruvy> good morning :)
[01:53] <runes> or morning
[01:53] <viper550> Wanna check out my cool theme for Edgy?
[01:53] <runes> sure
[01:53] <runes> edgy is the new beta os
[01:53] <runes> ?
[01:53] <BHSPitMonkey> 10 bucks says it's not cool at all
[01:53] <BHSPitMonkey> runes, Edgy Eft is the successor to Dapper
[01:54] <viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic
[01:54] <runes> BHSPitMonkey, hwo stable is it?
[01:54] <BHSPitMonkey> umm... not.
[01:54] <runes> BHSPitMonkey, after 2.5 months of learning ubunt I'm kidn of hesitant to chage
[01:54] <jvai> i hope this frespire i'm dl'ing will b a good fit for my friend, she's stuck in a aol dial up subscription, on a bootleg xp install, i dont know if ubuntu will handle the aol sw
[01:54] <viper550> I was just installing some Nuvola icons for my KDE desktop
[01:54] <BHSPitMonkey> it's not to be released for a few months...
[01:54] <runes> BHSPitMonkey, ok I'll wait till I build my next machine ( a month)
[01:54] <BHSPitMonkey> it's not a matter of change, runes... it's a matter of keeping updated
[01:55] <BHSPitMonkey> for what?
[01:55] <viper550> Of course the theme works on other versions, as long as you have the Murrine engine (and the Human icons of course)
[01:55] <runes> BHSPitMonkey, good idea but the updates I think I'll stick with are the security ones
[01:55] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm pretty sure you'll want to upgrade your distro when the next release comes along...
[01:55] <BHSPitMonkey> major releases of ubuntu are every six months
[01:56] <n3rdism> meheren: i think its x man.. when i do glxgears i get an error:  "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:56] <n3rdism> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[01:56] <n3rdism> "
[01:56] <jvai> i'm on hoary still :P
[01:57] <meheren> ok....
[01:57] <noxxle> how can i get glxgears to display my fps
[01:58] <warren_> pcmcia not work in ubuntu 6.06???
[01:58] <mistform> I think I figured out the problem wtih my wireless
[01:58] <viper550> run it from a command line
[01:58] <medardo> hello, I am new in site i speak sapanish
[01:59] <viper550> Hola senor, #ubuntu-es
[01:59] <noxxle> when i run glxgears it doesnt show me an fps
[01:59] <noxxle> just runs the gears in a window
[01:59] <mistform> I can't get the Network Manager to work :(
[01:59] <medardo> hola
[01:59] <viper550> (Sorry about the lack of accent, I didn't feel like going to a character map)
[01:59] <medardo> ok
[01:59] <mistform> I did the "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[02:00] <BHSPitMonkey> ooh, I looove Network Manager
[02:00] <mistform> and installed it from the packet manager
[02:00] <mistform> but it's not showing up
[02:00] <mistform> I have reinstalled several times and rebooted, too
[02:00] <viper550> Yeah, if you would like more localized support in your language, try #ubuntu-es
[02:00] <warren_> pcmcia support not available in ubuntu 6.06????
[02:00] <jvai> i'm stuk on network applet, in hoary, but's it's works ok
[02:00] <mistform> it's in the startup program, but it's not there
[02:01] <crimsun> warren_: it works fine. Are you running the latest updates (from dapper-updates)?
[02:01] <medardo> well I TAKE CLASS INGLISH BYE
[02:01] <warren_> i have updated the crap out of my computer...i but when i plug in a sound card, i get nothing
[02:02] <Scruff> may i ask a samba/swat related question here
[02:02] <Scruff> im hearing crickets in the samba channel
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> !alsa
[02:02] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:02] <lopzided> i saw someone in the ubuntu forums mention a "faster-ubuntu script"....anyone know anything about this?
[02:02] <marce59> hi again, ! firefox is trying to "open"  the file prueba1.php  instead of executing it, (apache is working normal, but something is wrong in the configuration ?)
[02:02] <lopzided> !faster-ubuntu
[02:02] <crimsun> warren_: which sound card is it?
[02:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about faster-ubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:02] <orcdestroyer> !open
[02:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about open - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:02] <orcdestroyer> !bsd
[02:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about bsd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:02] <warren_> soundblaster
[02:02] <Jeruvy> !apt-get
[02:02] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:02] <crimsun> warren_: which specific model?
[02:03] <Scruff> i installed swat/samba/etc... and got it to work as localhost:901, but when i go to my other computer and i do 192.blah.blah.blah:901 it cant connect, it says the connection to the server has been reset
[02:03] <warren_> um hang on
[02:03] <warren_> audigy 2 zs
[02:03] <orcdestroyer> how can I give some permission to one user to enter in pastes, partitions etc
[02:03] <orcdestroyer> chmod 777 paste ?
[02:03] <orcdestroyer> Is that right?
[02:03] <EnsignRedshirt> I have a question about the packages 'libginac1.3c2' and 'libginac-dev' in breezy.  They seem to have left a bad symbolic link in /usr/lib.
[02:04] <Ronz> hey yall...i have a 5.1 card, but cant get my back speakers to work. ive played around w/ alsamixer, but no luck. the other day i booted into windows, and it had the same driver and i could get my speakers to go. is there any way to either A. get all the speakers to work with mp3's or B. have the back left and right output the same sound as the front left and right?
[02:04] <crimsun> warren_: is it currently plugged in?
[02:04] <warren_> yes sir
[02:04] <Scruff> is there some sort of software firewall that is blocking external swat connections?
[02:04] <aieaodajida> Hello. I'm trying to install slack with cds. When i boot it with the cd, i get a msg: isolinux: failed to locate CD-ROM device. I'm certain that my bios identified my CD rom. Someone would like to help-me?
[02:04] <crimsun> warren_: pastebin (http://pastebin.ca) the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[02:04] <Ivan_> hola
[02:04] <Scruff> like iptables or something
[02:04] <warren_> ok hang on
[02:04] <Ivan_> alguien q me pueda ayidar
[02:04] <Ivan_> por favor
[02:04] <jrib> !es
[02:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:05] <Ivan_> es q me dice q me tengo q registarr o algo asi
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Does it seem strange that the only files installed by the package libginac1.3c2, which is a runtime library, are in /usr/share/doc?
[02:05] <mistform> aieaodajida, go to ##linux
[02:05] <warren_> no sound cards
[02:05] <marce59> ivan la registracion es gratis
[02:05] <mdirc> How do I enable paste-by-right click on the Terminal applicaiton available in the default Ubuntu gnome desktop. Currently I have to right click and then click on paste in the menu.
[02:05] <watercycle> hi
[02:05] <Ivan_> y como l,o hago
[02:05] <Ivan_> donde
[02:05] <Ivan_> como
[02:05] <Ivan_> es q soy nuevito
[02:05] <jrib> mdirc: ctrl-shift-v
[02:06] <facugaich> Ivan_: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:06] <crimsun> warren_: pastebin the output from ``dmesg''
[02:06] <watercycle> I want to upgrade Breezy to Dapper and I have the Dapper CD!  I then typed: sudo apt-cdrom add   and then      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , but it wont upgrade!  Any help please?
[02:06] <ManiacKY> Okay I have a fresh install of ubuntu server. It isn't showing my two processors. What should I apt-get to install SMP support?
[02:06] <warren_> will a pcmcia not work if my onboard soiundcard doesnt work?
[02:06] <runes> Is there a way to change default permissions to all files for 777 in /etc/skel
[02:06] <mdirc> jrig: yes I know that key stroke, I was looking at pasting by just right clicking
[02:06] <Ivan_> ya ahora si
[02:06] <Ronz> anyone have an idea about the surround sound?
[02:06] <warren_> because i have HUGE sound issues at the moment
[02:06] <crimsun> warren_: they're unrelated.
[02:06] <jrib> mdirc: oh I see, that I don't know how to do, but you can highlight to copy and the middle click to paste
[02:06] <Ronz> whats your problem, warren_ ?
[02:07] <warren_> i see..
[02:07] <warren_> well ronz
[02:07] <marce59> i want apache runs the scripts, not that firefox tries to open it, is something in the http.conf that i don't put it ?
[02:07] <Ivan_> si mi pregunta es re simple
[02:07] <Ivan_> como puedo ver los archivod desde un cd
[02:07] <crimsun> Ronz: what program are you using to test surround output?
[02:07] <jrib> Ivan_: espanol en #ubuntu-es por favor
[02:07] <rcmiv> does anyone know howto change gdm login screen resolution, without editing xorg.conf?
[02:07] <Ronz> crimsun, dont have one. what should i use?
[02:07] <warren_> irq not assigned correctly to sound card, so i have totally given up on the onboard sound card...but i plug in a pcmcia card, and nothing!
[02:07] <watercycle> if I have Dapper CD and want to upgrade from CD only!  How can I do it?  I followed the website, but sudo apt-cdrom add and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , doesnt upgrade!  Any help please?
[02:07] <Ivan_> pucha....
[02:08] <linuxd00d> hey again guys
[02:08] <crimsun> Ronz: a dvd with Totem.
[02:08] <longwave> marce59: how are you accessing the scripts? http://localhost/ or file:// urls?
[02:08] <Ivan_> y como mierda me registro
[02:08] <jrib> !register > Ivan_
[02:08] <facugaich> Ivan_: ya estas en ubuntu-es... habla ahi
[02:08] <jrib> Ivan_: and please be polite...
[02:08] <vorbote> Ivan_, please go to #ubuntu-es for help in Spanish. Haya si hablamos espaol.
[02:08] <linuxd00d> i need an mp3 player for ubuntu
[02:08] <marce59> longwave http://localhost
[02:08] <Ivan_> pero me dice q tengo q estar registrado para habalr
[02:08] <Ronz> crimsun, are there any other programs?
[02:08] <longwave> marce59: did you add anything to httpd.conf when you tried to get it to work earlier?
[02:08] <marce59> ivan pone el cd y resetea la maquina
[02:08] <billym> Is this the place to get a little help with ubuntu?
[02:08] <linuxd00d> i have helix player but it just wont run
[02:08] <facugaich> Ivan_: segui las instrucciones de ubotu
[02:08] <mdirc> jrib: thanks
[02:08] <longwave> marce59: also, did you restart apache after enabling the php module?
[02:08] <Ivan_> ok
[02:08] <facugaich> !register > Ivan_
[02:08] <Ronz> billym, ubuntu help? not here.....=)
[02:09] <Ivan_> grax
[02:09] <marce59> yes, i restart the machine.
[02:09] <crimsun> Ronz: sure, but does playing a dvd with Totem not work?
[02:09] <billym> could you point me in the right direction
[02:09] <mdirc> jrib: I am having isues with runing vncviewer 4 after a recent kernel upate ubuntu 6.0.6, I just get a blank grey screen. Any ideas?
[02:09] <crimsun> Ronz: (e.g., vlc, speaker-test, aplay, ...)
[02:09] <longwave> billym just ask your question :)
[02:09] <Ronz> crimsun, never set it up
[02:09] <Ronz> dvd's that is
[02:09] <billym> coo
[02:09] <Cainus> hey can anyone tell me how to make a program run at startup?
[02:09] <tech9iner> !seen misfit_toy
[02:09] <ubotu> misfit_toy is on IRC right now!
[02:09] <marce59> I put in http.conf Action application-xhttpd-php "/usr/bin/php5"
[02:10] <Ronz> crimsun, i have amarok installed and had my old speakers working, but they were in 2.1 mode
[02:10] <marce59> and Addtype application/x-httpd-php .php
[02:10] <longwave> marce59: remove that, mod_php will handle php files, you should not need to specify those
[02:10] <jrib> mdirc: no, I don't really know what would cause that
[02:10] <ManiacKY> Okay I have a fresh install of ubuntu server. It isn't showing my two processors. What should I apt-get to install SMP support?
[02:10] <marce59> ok, thank I will proceed
[02:10] <linuxd00d> i have helix player but it just wont run
[02:10] <mistform> how do I run Network Manager from the command line?
[02:10] <linuxd00d> i have changed the permissions to execute it
[02:10] <longwave> marce59: if you look in /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf you will see the module already configures those lines for you
[02:10] <Warbo> Cainus: At boot or at login?
[02:11] <linuxd00d> but it will not run
[02:11] <Cainus> boot
[02:11] <rcmiv> warren_, you have a sound problem?
[02:11] <Warbo> Cainus: Add it to /etc/init.d/rc.local (I think that is where it is stored)
[02:11] <mistform> ManiacKY: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:11] <Scruff> !iptables
[02:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[02:11] <Warbo> Cainus: "gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc.local"
[02:11] <mcphail> Cainus: use cron
[02:11] <EnsignRedshirt> I have installed libginac1.3c2 and libginac-dev, but in /usr/lib/ the symbolic link libginac.so points to libginac-1.3.so.0.0.0, which apparently does not exist. How can I fix this?
[02:12] <billym> Installed python2.4-twisted, went to run a test script and received 'ImportError: No module named internet.protocol', any idea??
[02:12] <Warbo> mcphail: I can't get my head around cron :)
[02:12] <tech9iner> misfit_toy  pingggggg g g g gg
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> This looks like a breezy packaging error.
[02:12] <tech9iner> misfit_toy  wake up ya bugga ya..
[02:12] <linuxd00d> people i need help
[02:12] <mcphail> Warbo: reaaly easy - type "crontab -e" then enter "@reboot /path/to/exe"
[02:13] <Cainus> Warbo: /etc/init.d/rc.local doesn't exist... should I create it?
[02:13] <linuxd00d> ...
[02:13] <Warbo> mcphail: gnome-schedule is a nice tool
[02:13] <ManiacKY> mistform Don't see anything on there about enabling mutliprocessors
[02:13] <hoehaver> HI all, is there a channel for video...like so i can ask the question: is AVI the same thing as divx  I.E my DVD player will play divx video so can it play AVI?
[02:13] <Cainus> mcphail: what user does that run it as?
[02:13] <rcmiv> gdm login screen resolution is way too high, xorg.conf resolutions all 1024x768
[02:13] <Warbo> Cainus: I'm not sure. I usually make custom scripts (like /etc/init.d/start-modem and stuff)
[02:14] <mcphail> Cainus: you own user. Root is easy too if you need that.
[02:14] <Warbo> But making a whole new script needs update-rc.d to be run
[02:14] <marce59> i remove everything, stop and restart apache, but the problem persists, what can i do ?
[02:14] <runes> marce59, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:14] <mistform> maniacky: yeah, it rarely helps me, but I point alot of people there
[02:14] <Cainus> mcphail: ahh okay... I'll give it a shot
[02:14] <BHSPitMonkey> AVIs come in all sorts of different compression codecs, hoehaver, so that assumption would be flawed
[02:14] <mcphail> Cainus: if you need to run it as root use "sudo crontab -e -u root"
[02:14] <tech9iner> !avi
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:14] <linuxd00d> raaaaaa getting help in here is like asking for windows
[02:14] <marce59> thank runes !
[02:14] <user01> hello
[02:15] <Cainus> mcphail: nope... don't need to... I just wanted to make sure it didn't run as root
[02:15] <runes> marce59, it helped me set up the whole site  all working great!
[02:15] <Warbo> AVI, Ogg, Asf and stuff like that are just "containers"
[02:15] <user01> i have a question in adept
[02:15] <watercycle> when I ran Breezy I could run at 800x600 at 85Hz!  but it doesnt work on Dapper!  Any solutions?
[02:15] <BHSPitMonkey> there ya go!
[02:15] <linuxd00d> hahaha
[02:15] <linuxd00d> i got windows!!!
[02:15] <mcphail> hoehaver: AVI just means a file with audio and video. It does not specify which codecs (e.g. divx) are used in the file.
[02:15] <linuxd00d> !mp3
[02:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: is there no way you can dist-upgrade to Dapper?
[02:15] <bimberi> !mp3
[02:16] <mistform> the only good windows is Hacked windows
[02:16] <user01> Hello? There's a package description in adept that is plain wrong. Kubuntu 6.06. Where do I go to report it ?
[02:16] <mistform> but even then it's hard to call "good"
[02:16] <BHSPitMonkey> linuxd00d, I think we've done all possible to help you, considering you've asked no questions as of yet
[02:16] <BHSPitMonkey> so, "you're welcome."
[02:16] <rufus> anyone have aixgl and compiz on intel i915?
[02:16] <linuxd00d> i have helix player but it just wont run
[02:16] <hoehaver> well, you seem busy in here
[02:16] <longwave> EnsignRedshirt: you should be able to fix the symbolic link with "sudo ln -s" as long as the actual .so file exists
[02:16] <Warbo> System>Preferences>Windows. The taskbar says "Starting Windows", that worried me :)
[02:16] <Artan1s> Anyone know of any ubuntu podcasts
[02:16] <mistform> linuxd00d, first, try reinstalling it
[02:16] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: I'd rather not do that right now.  Is there in fact a file missing?
[02:16] <linuxd00d> i cant
[02:16] <longwave> !bugs > user01
[02:16] <Warbo> Artan1s: ubuntuos.com
[02:16] <mistform> if that doesn't work, can you try running it from the command line?
[02:17] <Artan1s> Warbo:  Thank you
[02:17] <user01> longwave: even if it not really a bug ?
[02:17] <linuxd00d> ok
[02:17] <linuxd00d> cheers
[02:17] <hoehaver> fine man be an ass
[02:17] <longwave> user01: documentation and description bugs are still bugs
[02:17] <hoehaver> i put it in here too BHS
[02:17] <hoehaver> well..bc you were an ass
[02:17] <user01> longwave: ok. Will do
[02:17] <user01> !bugs
[02:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <runes> has anyone played with /etc/skel permissions?
[02:17] <EnsignRedshirt> longwave: I don't think I have the actual lib file.
[02:18] <linuxd00d> ok guys cheers
[02:18] <linuxd00d> thanks alot
[02:18] <ManiacKY> Okay I have a fresh install of ubuntu server. It isn't showing my two processors. What should I apt-get to install SMP support?
[02:18] <lopzided> anyone have any impressive uptimes right now?
[02:18] <Scruff> i used to have over a year
[02:18] <BioVorE> lopzided: I had..
[02:18] <Scruff> till about 2 days ago
[02:18] <Scruff> when my hard drive died
[02:19] <runes> Dr_Willis, you areound?
[02:19] <mistform> I cheerz
[02:19] <selfharm> hi ubuntu. can someone help me out in im? I just installed server and now I need to install a gui.
[02:19] <rufus> anyone help with aixgl setup
[02:19] <jvai> i been up for 4 dayz,
[02:19] <Warbo> selfharm: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:19] <mcphail> lopzided: only going about 10 days between kernel upgrades at present, aren't we?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> runes,  HMM?
[02:19] <runes> Dr_Willis, if you have the time I really need a bit of your help
[02:19] <jvai> @ 1 tyme, the past weeknd
[02:19] <longwave> EnsignRedshirt: ah, i see your problem - libginac1.3c2 in breezy doesn't actually have any lib files in it, but libginac1.3c2a in dapper does... file a bug i guess?
[02:19] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: doesn't look like anything's actually in the shlib package.
[02:19] <selfharm> warbo, thank you
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> runes, whats up?
[02:20] <lopzided> mcphail, are we?  i haven't been keeping up...
[02:20] <crimsun> longwave: it's not worth filing a bug, since we generally ignore non-security for breezy/universe.
[02:20] <longwave> EnsignRedshirt: must be an unpopular package if that bug was there through the entire breezy cycle!
[02:20] <longwave> crimsun: yeah, true
[02:20] <bleech> does anyone here use gnome-terminal with screen?  ctrl+left and ctrl+right doesnt work when i'm in a screen session
[02:20] <crimsun> the first thing we'd ask the submitter to do is dist-upgrade to dapper anyhow.
[02:20] <runes> Dr_Willis, in /etc/skel I created the file public_html and added e017 portal files.  I used chmod to adjust the files, but when I add a user it does not copy the correct permissions
[02:21] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: Even for something as bad as a missing file???  That's, um, kinda ridiculous.
[02:21] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: you might think it's ridiculous, but I'll remind you that it's universe, and universe is unsupported.
[02:22] <runes> Dr_Willis, so the user does have the public_html file and the correct subfile to run the portal but the permissions don't copy in /home/$user/public_html
[02:22] <longwave> EnsignRedshirt: the bug is in launchpad but was never fixed in time for breezy: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ginac/+bug/3360
[02:22] <EnsignRedshirt> longwave: Ah, thanks for checking.
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> runes,  i think when the new user is made - the umask value is used on the files. or somthing like that.
[02:22] <mcphail> bleech: to switch between different screens? Use ctrl-a n and ctrl-a p
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> runes,  i seem to recall reading that ages ago. its a security feature i guess.
[02:23] <runes> Dr_Willis, sadly that is a bit over my head ..so then I would have to change the permissions to the group the user is added to I suppose?
[02:24] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun, longwave: The strange thing is, I've been using the library for a while.  But I have the -dev package installed to, so I guess the linker was using the .a file...?
[02:24] <runes> Dr_Willis, I don't mind reading so you suggest umask man pages huh?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> runes,  yea. and google for  /etc/skell permissions/customizations
[02:24] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: the static lib is always used when -lginac is used.
[02:24] <longwave> are you compiling against it or just running apps that use it?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> runes,  could make a script that sets the perms.. but thats a bit annoying
[02:24] <bleech> mcphail: not to switch between screens, but to jump over words in the terminal.  for example, i always use ctrl+left to jump one word to the left when i'm editing in the command line.  if i use screen with a gnome-terminal, ctrl+left just emits the letter "D"
[02:25] <EnsignRedshirt> I only ran into a problem today because I am trying to use scons to check for the lib, and I guess the CheckLib function wants the .so file.
[02:25] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: in any case, if you want a 'proper' package, pbuild the dapper source one.
[02:25] <runes> Dr_Willis, I tried to create a bash script..wow umm..ok I didn't knwo what the extension had to be to get it to run
[02:25] <mcphail> bleech: works here
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> runes,  ya just chmod +x it :P
[02:25] <Kyral> You don't need an extension
[02:25] <pinPoint> whats a good vnc program?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> extensions are not needed. Hhe
[02:25] <pinPoint> and command to install it?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> pinPoint,  good for what?
[02:26] <pinPoint> remote control
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I use the vnc4server and clients
[02:26] <Kyral> I generally use the .sh extension to designate my personal user scripts
[02:26] <crimsun> warren_: I'm still awaiting your pastebinned dmesg.
[02:26] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: Can you give me a pointer to what 'pbuild' is?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> whats a good vnc program to do what vnc is designed to do eh?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:26] <Kyral> from the system scripts (which don't have the extension)
[02:26] <pinPoint> yep
[02:26] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: pbuilder(8)
[02:26] <runes> Dr_Willis, oops forgot the execute permissions...that would be it..but I will take your suggestion of reading up on both umaks and skell permissions thanx a lot!!!
[02:26] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: search the wiki; you'll find a howto.
[02:26] <warren_> oh god, im sorry...raining and windows down...
[02:27] <longwave> Kyral: i tend to do that too (and .pl for perl scripts, etc) but fortunately there's always "file" for when you forget :)
[02:27] <asdfkp> i run gnome and am trying to uninstall all kde apps with one command (instead of individually) is this possible?
[02:27] <visik7> can you suggest me a good gnome rad like kdevelop ?
[02:27] <runes> Kyral, I think I will add.sh so that I can differentiate between regular text
[02:27] <Cainus> mcphail: can I do @reboot sshd ?  didn't seem to work...
[02:27] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: Found it, thanks.
[02:27] <Kyral> runes: hehe it IS regular text
[02:27] <wheels3572> Is there a way to ignore some files upon download so they dont show up in the next round of downloads?
[02:27] <asdfkp> i run gnome and install kde, now i want to remove all kde apps -- is there a way to do that with one command?
[02:28] <runes> Kyral, oops what I meant is to diff between a document (txt) and a script
[02:28] <visik7> asdfkp: have you installed with aptitude ?
[02:28] <mcphail> Cainus: if it is sshd you want to run, that _is_ better using the init.d system (which is designed for services). _But_ ubuntu should run it at reboot as default anyway if you used apt-get to install it
[02:28] <asdfkp> visik7, i just did apt-get install kde
[02:28] <visik7> mmm
[02:28] <lopzided> can ubuntu be run on a PDA?
[02:28] <bob_too> where do i set system-wide umask?
[02:29] <mcphail> bob_too: there isn't one
[02:29] <visik7> asdfkp: dunno about apt-get but aptitude mark all installed dependancies as auto and if you remove the package the dependancies should be removed as well
[02:29] <runes> whoop it works!!!!!! thanx Kyral  and Dr_Willis  I'll start with a bit of scripting for permissions!!!
[02:29] <bob_too> mcphail: so it has to be user-level?
[02:29] <longwave> bob_too: there is a umask command in /etc/profile, i don't know if changing that will work
[02:29] <asdfkp> visik7, will give a try
[02:29] <mcphail> bob_too: read /etc/login.defs - umask is a fractured beast
[02:30] <bob_too> longwave: it doesn't seem to, i tried it
[02:30] <bob_too> mcphail: yes, i looked into using libpam-umask
[02:30] <Cainus> mcphail: crontab -e starts up my text editor with an empty file.... is that right?  and the single line should be @reboot /what/ever ?
[02:30] <asdfkp> visik7, can i do that with synaptic?
[02:31] <mcphail> Cainus: yes, but don't use this method to run sshd
[02:31] <bob_too> not sure where to put the umask setting in /etc/pam.d
[02:31] <mcphail> bob_too: Applications such as nautilus will ignore it wherever it goes
[02:31] <Cainus> mcphail : there were a couple of other things I wanted to run too... but it looked like it was saving to a temp file...
[02:31] <asdfkp> visik7, i'm not used to aptitude, how do i remove all dependencies?
[02:32] <mcphail> Cainus: the other things you want to run should follow that protocol
[02:32] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: Is there a "50 words or less" description of what a "chroot" is?  (I don't think it is a cigar.)
[02:32] <ReWT_AxS> Anyone here good with setting up samba or installing it it at that...I keep getting an error.
[02:32] <mcphail> Cainus: if your syntax is correct, crontab won't complain when you save the file
[02:32] <longwave> EnsignRedshirt: not quite 50 words or less, but quite well described: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[02:32] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: And if I am going to build a breezy package from source in breezy, do I need one?
[02:33] <rixxon> father wants to try ubuntu, now running winxp. so lets dualboot. can ubuntu installer slice out a bit of space from the winxp partition to use for ubuntu?
[02:33] <mcphail> EnsignRedshirt: it is a linux setup trapped within another linux setup
[02:33] <rixxon> i normally do it in windows with partition magic ..
[02:33] <J2D2> hey guys, i used apt-get eterm, now i can find it. Its not in the accesories or anyting. I tried running the command eterm in terminal, no dice
[02:33] <ManiacKY> rixxon Yup. Did it to my wifes laptop. It resized the Windows XP partion to make room for Ubuntu
[02:33] <longwave> rixxon: yes it can
[02:33] <rixxon> ManiacKY, and it will not break the xp partition?
[02:33] <longwave> rixxon: as always, though make backups first just in case
[02:33] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: no, you don't /have/ to have one, but it's the cleanest way to do it.
[02:33] <Cainus> mcphail: it's not complaining, but the filename looks like a temp file name
[02:33] <bigelchie> Hello, I have the default .bash_profile that comes with Dapper. It looks like it should add ~/bin to my PATH if it exist. However, I never see it in my PATH when I run gnome-termiinal
[02:33] <rixxon> and is this easy to do?
[02:34] <longwave> rixxon: yes, the installer will walk you through repartitioning
[02:34] <mcphail> Cainus: what do you mean?
[02:34] <ManiacKY> rixxon: Your milage my vary but it didn't for my experience. Just the next time Windows XP booted it needed to run chkdsk and it was happy after that
[02:34] <Cainus> mcphail: just wondering if there's a problem there, because nothing seems to be running
[02:34] <rixxon> longwave, ManiacKY, thanks
[02:34] <J2D2> never mind :)
[02:34] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: the Name section of chroot(8) is much more precise than any description I could give.
[02:34] <ManiacKY> rixxon Very easy, the installer has a wizard for it you can fallow
[02:34] <rixxon> by the way, how do you get flash and java working properly in firefox
[02:35] <mcphail> Cainus: as long as it says "crontab: installing new crontab" you are fine
[02:35] <azureal> mcphail: i just got back and the sudoers changes worked!
[02:35] <rixxon> flash has no sound and doesn't work as well as in windows. java doesn't work at all
[02:35] <erus`> does anyone know of a tutorial to install the r300 drivers and XGL on my ubuntu pc? i have no idea
[02:35] <Cainus> mcphail: ahh okay
[02:35] <azureal> mcphail: at the moment, all i have is the user entry and the root entry
[02:35] <asdfkp> visik7, i'm not familiar with aptitude, how can i remove all dependencies?
[02:35] <godtvisken> How can I properly setup my sound card to use more than one application at one time?
[02:35] <azureal> mcphail: apparently, it takes some time for it to take effect
[02:35] <mcphail> azureal: i think you should apologize to Mr Shuttleworth for critcising his distro! ;p
[02:36] <lopzided> godtvisken, look into the JACK server
[02:36] <Warbo> godtvisken: Use ALSA
[02:36] <azureal> to whom? =P
[02:36] <eternaljoy> i get a message: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages)!  but I dont see it appear twice!  Any ideas?
[02:36] <mcphail> azureal: the kind gentleman who provides this distribution for free
[02:36] <sethk> rixxon, java works fine.  flash works also for me.
[02:37] <roostishaw> how do i download and install a new python module?
[02:37] <Nuked> im attempting to compile a program that states that it uses libglade-2.0. I installed it and the dev package, but it still whines about not having the libgkade
[02:37] <Nuked> what do i do?
[02:37] <bigelchie> can anyone help me with simple PATH question. the default .bash_profile on Dapper looks like it should add ~/bin to my PATH. It never does. If I do echo $PATH from gnome-terminal it never includes ~bin.
[02:37] <azureal> mcphail: do you think he's listening? =P
[02:37] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: I'll look into it.  I suppose I could also just delete the ginac packages, get the latest tarball, and install it in /usr/local
[02:37] <asdfkp> visik7, got it
[02:37] <longwave> Nuked: pastebin the error messages
[02:37] <azureal> mcphail: ok, my question is why it took some time for the changes to take effect
[02:37] <rixxon> sethk, with sound?
[02:38] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun: I don't think any other packages depend in the ginac packages.
[02:38] <eternaljoy> can someone pls have a quick look at my sources.list and tell me where there are duplicate entries?
[02:38] <nietzsky> How do I force to stop a service running in /etc/init.d/ ?
[02:38] <mcphail> azureal: i think he is omnipresent
[02:38] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: if you wanted to, knock yourself out
[02:38] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i download and install a new python module?
[02:38] <longwave> nietzsky: "sudo invoke-rc.d servicename stop"
[02:38] <purplev45> Anybody know now to modify the behavior of xterm mouse highlighting?  Before I installed Ubuntu, highlighting (mouse doubleclick in xterm) use to delim on non-alphanum characters
[02:38] <mcphail> nietzsky: sudo /etc/init.d/service stop
[02:38] <jvai> peac uall, it was fun
[02:38] <azureal> mcphail: it didn't happen easily =P
[02:38] <gekko`> eternaljoy: and where can we find your sources.list?
[02:38] <nietzsky> mcphail: Doesn't work. :)
[02:38] <mcphail> :)
[02:38] <nietzsky> longwave: Thx.
[02:38] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: can you help me please?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: huh?
[02:39] <erus`> how can i mount my second windows hard drive?
[02:39] <azureal> mcphail: while there was no command to re-read the sudoers file, apparently it takes the system some time to do it itself
[02:39] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: sorry i havent been following
[02:39] <Nuked> longwave, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19522
[02:39] <eternaljoy> gekko`: where can I paste it?
[02:39] <mcphail> nietzsky: depends on how well the service start/stop script is wriiten. They all _should_ work
[02:39] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: can u  pls have a quick look at my sources.list and tell me where there are duplicate entries?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: pastebin
[02:39] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: yes
[02:39] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: pastbin.com?
[02:39] <gekko`> eternaljoy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:39] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:39] <azureal> mcphail: but if it makes you feel better, i slightly apologize =P
[02:39] <bigelchie> can anyone help me with simple PATH question. the default .bash_profile on Dapper looks like it should add ~/bin to my PATH. It never does. If I do echo $PATH from gnome-terminal it never includes ~/bin
[02:40] <azureal> and now i need to restart into windows to play games, lol
[02:40] <mcphail> azureal: enjoy
[02:40] <EnsignRedshirt> crimsun, longwave: Thanks for the help. Gotta run. Ciao.
[02:40] <azureal> i'll configure fluxbox some more later
[02:40] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ill paste it there now. brb
[02:40] <azureal> mcphail: thx.
[02:40] <gnomefreak> k
[02:40] <visik7> I use cedega to play games
[02:40] <nietzsky> longwave: That "fail"ed ... :\
[02:40] <visik7> and I get rid of windows
[02:40] <Miek> bigelchie: does the directory exist?
[02:40] <bigelchie> yep
[02:40] <bigelchie> Miek: yes
[02:40] <mcphail> nietzsky: is the service running?
[02:40] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: it tells me i have duplicate entry!  but I cant see any!  hopefully u can. thank you
[02:41] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: link pleas
[02:41] <nietzsky> mcphail: Yes.
[02:41] <gnomefreak> eplease*
[02:41] <nietzsky> mcphail: I want to stop it, and uninstall it.
[02:41] <mcphail> nietzsky: what is it?
[02:41] <nietzsky> mcphail: lighttp
[02:41] <gekko`> erus`: just mount it to /media/ ?
[02:41] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: im still pasting it, sorry using modem :P
[02:41] <mcphail> nietzsky: never used it, but you might have to kill the process
[02:41] <erus`> erm
[02:41] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: ok
[02:42] <nietzsky> mcphail: Good thinking.
[02:42] <erus`> no Gecko
[02:42] <Nuked> longwave, any ideas?
[02:42] <erus`> i had to edit some text file before i think
[02:42] <erus`> but i cant remember
[02:42] <gekko`> erus`: it's called /etc/fstab
[02:43] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: nearly got it
[02:43] <gnomefreak> got it
[02:43] <nietzsky> mcphail: Well, I've killed the process; can't find it doing "pstree"; but I can't still uninstall it. :\
[02:43] <longwave> Nuked: you definitely have libglade2-dev installed? maybe you need one of the libglademm -dev packages or similar as well?
[02:43] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19523
[02:43] <Nuked> longwave, its installed
[02:43] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: i had it
[02:44] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: ick
[02:44] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: how did you get it?
[02:44] <bigelchie> first time on IRC, sure is crazy in here. I think I'll go back to googling the forums
[02:44] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: ;) im good
[02:44] <erus`> erm Gecko what i do?
[02:44] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: heh ;)
[02:44] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: ok look i want you to open /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:44] <gnomefreak> let me know when you have that open ready to edit
[02:44] <erus`> this is a second hard drive... i just mounted a windows partition the other time
[02:44] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok hang 5
[02:45] <gnomefreak> k
[02:45] <Grisen> I'm new to Ubuntu-- trying to slowly convert from Win98 via a dual HD boot-- tried to follow Herman's advice with GAG and cant get Ubuntu to boot from HDb.  Where would I go for help please?
[02:45] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok opened
[02:45] <Konstable> Does anyone know how to set up ATI graphics drivers?  I installed the .deb and did a "aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf"  but OpenGL still works very slowly.  And in "fglrxinfo" it shows Mesa OpenGL rather than ATI OpenGL.
[02:45] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ready to edit
[02:45] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: erase eveything in it
[02:45] <SonicChao> Firefox uses 15%-20% of my CPU power, always when I start browsing and open tabs and stuff like that. It starts lagging and taking more CPU % the more I browse.
[02:45] <gnomefreak> let me know when your ready
[02:45] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: everything?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> everything
[02:46] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no worries your safe
[02:46] <gnomefreak> dont save it yet
[02:46] <Grisen> HELP please
[02:46] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: im shaking ;) ok done
[02:46] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19524  and look at the bottom you will see text in a white area
[02:46] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: i delete it all, but not saved
[02:46] <longwave> Nuked: what does "pkg-config --modversion libglade-2.0" output?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: paste the text thats in the white area into that file
[02:47] <mistform> lol
[02:47] <Nuked> longwave, 2.4.2
[02:47] <mistform> I love it when my girlfriends mom takes my side :D
[02:47] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok brb
[02:47] <gnomefreak> k
[02:47] <Cainus> mcphail: shouldn't @reboot run stuff when a machine is powered down and back up?  it's just not... and the path and script name are right, because I can sopy/paste the string and it runs...
[02:47] <godtvisken> Warbo: as far as i know I am using ALSA, but how would I confirm?
[02:48] <Grisen> Where do I go for help to begin to use Ubuntu from a dual boot please?  Ex Windows 98 user
[02:48] <longwave> Nuked: hrmm, that is the problem, pkg-config thinks you have libglade 2.4.2 but libglade2-0 should provide 2.5.1 - however i'm not sure how to fix this..
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Grisen: is it installed?
[02:48] <Grisen> It is on disk b tks
[02:48] <mistform> a boot selection
[02:48] <mistform> Lilo is common
[02:48] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok i pasted that all in white box
[02:48] <Grisen> should boot to B and
[02:48] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: next?
[02:48] <mistform> idk what alot of poeple use for Ubuntu
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Grisen: windows and linux installed?
[02:49] <SonicChao> Please help, Firefox takes too much power to boot. =(
[02:49] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: save
[02:49] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: close it
[02:49] <Grisen> Yes windoows on a and ubuntu on b
[02:49] <Warbo> godtvisken: The soundcard will be controlled by ALSA, but some applications either do not know about ALSA (like Audacity and Flash) whilst some others can, but might not be, using it (like XMMS)
[02:49] <mistform> SinicChao, how does FF take "too much power to boot"?
[02:49] <longwave> !dualboot
[02:49] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:49] <SonicChao> mistform: Firefox uses 15%-20% of my CPU power, always when I start browsing and open tabs and stuff like that. It starts lagging and taking more CPU % the more I browse.
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Grisen: when you restart pc you should see a screen wher eyou have a choice what to boot
[02:49] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok done!  now what?  dont I need those .au links seeing im from Australia?  And will I be able to load all files I had access to before?
[02:49] <warren__> would recompiling kernel screw up system?
[02:49] <Nuked> longwave thanks anyway
[02:49] <gnomefreak> no
[02:49] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no
[02:49] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: now sudo apt-get update
[02:50] <Nuked> gnomefreak Nuked: hrmm, that is the problem, pkg-config thinks you have libglade 2.4.2 but libglade2-0 should provide 2.5.1 - however i'm not sure how to fix this..
[02:50] <mistform> sonicchao what power supply do you have?
[02:50] <matti> TtTitanium pali x4.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Nuked: dapper?
[02:50] <Warbo> warren_: Not if you know what you are doing. There is usually no point
[02:50] <Nuked> yes
[02:50] <SonicChao> mistform: What do you mean? I'm on a laptop.
[02:50] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: and I didnt need easyubuntu anymore links?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no
[02:50] <Grisen> Thanks for link
[02:50] <warren__> well there is a perfectly good reason in my case
[02:50] <warren__> acpi=off screws up my irq assignment
[02:50] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok saved and doing any update brb
[02:50] <jrocks> hey , my network performance has become too bad recently , i installed samba yesterday , is that the reason ?
[02:50] <warren__> so i get no sound
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Nuked: im not sure i understand what you want
[02:51] <mistform> sonicchao, what other programs to you have running at the same time?
[02:51] <jrocks> it was workin fine
[02:51] <mistform> sonicchao, you could try reinstalling Firefox
[02:51] <Warbo> !tell warren_ about kernel
[02:51] <Grisen> Will gag enable me to actually boot from b, or does it have to insert in Windows boot sector on a?
[02:51] <SonicChao> mistform: Just gaim and xchat.
[02:51] <crimsun> warren__: did you try both of the parameters I mentioned in -+1?
[02:51] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: are those 6 links all I ever need to keep getting security updates and latest updates etc?
[02:51] <Cainus> so I think I need to use init.d ... can someone gimme the gentle overview?
[02:51] <Warbo> Oops, not enough underscores.
[02:51] <gnomefreak> yes eternaljoy the ones that i gave you
[02:51] <mistform> I am on a laptop, and FF takes a second to load, but not alot of CPU
[02:51] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: great :) brb
[02:51] <Nuked>  im attempting to compile a program that states that it uses libglade-2.0. I installed it and the dev package, but it still whines about not having the libgkade
[02:51] <mistform> try reinstalling firefox from the Packet Manager
[02:51] <longwave> Cainus: look at the existing scripts in init.d for examples
[02:52] <jrocks> does samba affects network performance ?
[02:52] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: no wonder you said yuck to my one :P  this one is a lot cleaner ;)
[02:52] <eternaljoy> brb
[02:52] <warren__> actually, (as if im not already a thorn in your side) the storm knocked out my power, i disconnected for like 10 mins, so i didnt get message
[02:52] <SonicChao> mistform: Ok.
[02:52] <Grisen> Dual boot from GAG, can it boot ubuntu with grub on b???
[02:52] <Cainus> longwave: does it just run all scripts in there?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !info libglade
[02:52] <ubotu> Package libglade does not exist in dapper
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !info glad
[02:52] <ubotu> Package glad does not exist in dapper
[02:52] <SonicChao> mistform: Oddly, the same thing happens in Opera.
[02:52] <Warbo> SonicChao: Do you need Firefox for all web browsing? Dillo takes hardly any resources for example
[02:52] <longwave> cainus: no, read "man update-rc.d" to find out how that works
[02:52] <Cainus> hmm k
[02:52] <jrocks> i cant even ping , it takes a lot of time !
[02:52] <SonicChao> Warbo: Dillo? Heard of it, I'll use anything that lets me use tabs and stuff like that.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Nuked: what version do you have installed?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: links2 ;)
[02:53] <Nuked> 2.5.1
[02:53] <Grisen> UBOTU, can gag boot from b or does grub have to be in windows boot sectoron a??
[02:53] <gnomefreak> but it needs 2.4?
[02:53] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: =(
[02:53] <Warbo> SonicChao: I am not sure if Dillo has tabs. I use Epiphany which does, but that uses Gecko, so it may not be any better than FF in terms of resources
[02:53] <Nuked> no it needs 2.5.1
[02:53] <Nuked> thats what makes no sense
[02:53] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: i have a bunch of browsers installed
[02:53] <sethk> Grisen, the BIOS selects the first drive, so grub has to be on the mbr of the first drive
[02:53] <SonicChao> Warbo: I'll know in a minute, I apt-get dillo.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Nuked: what are you compiling?
[02:54] <Nuked> bmpx
[02:54] <Nuked> svn
[02:54] <gnomefreak> that was your paste
[02:54] <mistform> sonicchao, do you have your laptop plugged in?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:54] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok updated :)  thanks!
[02:54] <Grisen> SETHK, what if I have bios boot from b?
[02:54] <crimsun> warren__: you didn't see it in -+1?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> Nuked: ok give me a sec
[02:54] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: may I ask you one more quick question? will be my last one
[02:54] <Nuked> ok
[02:54] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: ask
[02:54] <mistform> sonicchao: if your battery was low, the BIOS would reduce the multiplier to your CPU, dropping it from, say 1400mhz to 600mhz to reserve power
[02:54] <longwave> gnomefreak: the current libglade package is installed and that is supposed to provide libglade 2.5.1, but pkg-config thinks 2.4.2 is installed, i dont understand why that would be
[02:54] <selfharm> if i want to share a partition between ubuntu and windowsxp.... fat32?
[02:54] <mistform> check in your BIOS settings to see if you have a high power managment setting
[02:54] <SonicChao> mistform: Plugged in.
[02:55] <bimberi> selfharm: yes, if you want to write from both
[02:55] <mistform> what is your CPU running at?
[02:55] <godtvisken> Warbo: so how do i get flash to use it?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> give me the exact file name please
[02:55] <selfharm> bimber. thank you
[02:55] <Warbo> I think I have used up well over half of my download limit in the last few hours, trying to get a clean Ubuntu to the state my old one was in before I screwed it up :)
[02:55] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: in breezy my monitor runs at 800x600 @ 85hz the way I want!  but in Dapper when I chose it, it skips back to 1024x768 @ 76Hz!  Any ideas?
[02:55] <Grisen> HELP - is there another smaller forum dealing with boot issues, and how do I get there (command to IRC??)
[02:55] <Nuked> checking for GLADE... configure: error: Package requirements (libglade-2.0 >= 2.5.1) were not met.
[02:55] <SonicChao> Warbo: Well, dillo seems to use almost nothing.
[02:55] <Warbo> godtvisken: There are a few workarounds, but I don't know them. Try asking the channel
[02:55] <godtvisken> Warbo: ok
[02:55] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: in the menu system>prefferences>screen resoluton
[02:56] <eternaljoy> Warbo: I thought Download limits died 10 years ago? :P
[02:56] <godtvisken> Does anyone know how to get Flash to use ALSA?
[02:56] <Warbo> eternaljoy: That's what happens when I am not consulted over the provider to use :(
[02:56] <Nuked> by killing esd
[02:56] <Nuked> ?
[02:56] <SonicChao> mistform: Err...no idea...
[02:56] <warren__> sudo kill all esd
[02:56] <orbin> Nuked: so install the glade lib package
[02:56] <Grisen> HELP - another forum for noobs booting Ubuntu, how do I get there (IRC command??)
[02:56] <Nuked> orbin which is that?
[02:56] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: yes!  I go to: menu system>prefferences>screen resoluton! and 800x600 @ 85hz is available!  but when I chose it, X reboots but it jumps back to 1024x768 @ 76Hz!  any ideas why?
[02:56] <eternaljoy> Warbo: hehe ;)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> Nuked: what does apt-cache policy <package> say?
[02:57] <orbin> Nuked: what are you compiling?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> !fixres > eternaljoy
[02:57] <SonicChao> Oh, I've got to go.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: read the pm you got
[02:57] <SonicChao> Bye.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> orbin: not lucky enough to be in repos
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:57] <Grisen> HELP HELP HELP
[02:57] <Nuked> orbin bmpx svn. it has slsk built in
[02:57] <orbin> gnomefreak: oh, are you taking care of him/her?  i'll butt out :)
[02:58] <warren__> Grisen! i have messaged you like 3 times
[02:58] <warren__> what
[02:58] <warren__> is
[02:58] <warren__> your
[02:58] <warren__> problem?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> orbin: take it so i can get back to work if you want
[02:58] <gnomefreak> warren__: stop using the enter key as punctuation
[02:58] <orbin> gnomefreak: no, it's ok :)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> lol ;)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> Nuked: what does apt-cache policy say
[02:58] <Grisen> I know, but I have looked at dual boot pages and am stuck.  Is there anther less busy channel I can go to for IRC boot help please-- what IRC command to go?
[02:59] <orcdestroyer> hey
[02:59] <orcdestroyer> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 192.168.0.116 -j ACCEPT
[02:59] <orcdestroyer> is that right?
[02:59] <Grisen> Warren - noob trying to dual boot with Win98 on a and Ubuntu on B.  Want GAG to boot grub from B, is it possible?
[02:59] <warren__> grisen, no one can help you if you dont ask a question
[02:59] <Grisen> Maybe I type too slowly?
[03:00] <mistform> i/quit
[03:00] <Nuked> libglade2-0:
[03:00] <Nuked>   Installed: 1:2.5.1-2ubuntu2
[03:00] <Nuked>   Candidate: 1:2.5.1-2ubuntu2
[03:00] <Nuked>   Version table:
[03:00] <Nuked>  *** 1:2.5.1-2ubuntu2 0
[03:00] <Nuked>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[03:00] <Nuked>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:00] <Nuked> SORRY
[03:00] <warren__> not familiar with GAG
[03:01] <jramsey> !info pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> Package pastebin does not exist in dapper
[03:01] <Grisen> Sorry, Herman is the "expert" will look for link
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Nuked: same version of the -dev?
[03:01] <Warbo> jramsey: info gives version info and description of packages. Just use !pastebin to get pastebin info
[03:01] <Grisen> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p12.htm
[03:02] <jramsey> Warbo, yeah i forgot txs
[03:02] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: I did that website before, but I can only choiose vesa as I dont know what the others mean
[03:02] <billym> can someone point me to an irc for python?
[03:02] <crimsun> warren__: your client is not identified. This irc network blocks private queries from unidentified clients by default.
[03:02] <crimsun> i.e., Grisen never received your queries.
[03:03] <Grisen> Yes I did
[03:03] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: what video card do you have?
[03:03] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: when I run xserver it doesnt auto pick up my card or monitor!  and it gives me like 20 options!  and I chose Vesa cause I dont know what the others mean!  How can I learn that?
[03:03] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: hercules
[03:03] <crimsun> Grisen: if you've configured your client to do so, sure.
[03:03] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: im sorry i cant help you there i have never heard of that card
[03:03] <Warbo> mldonkey-server is broken, it gives this after installing "Starting MLDonkey: mlnetinstall: invalid option -- f". Could I substitute a locally compiled core into the .deb's service-type abilities?
[03:03] <lophyte> anyone know if its possible to convert an existing ext3 partition to an LVM volume?
[03:03] <Grisen> HELP - who knows how to use GAG to dual boot from two HD's?
[03:03] <Crescendo> I need to split an AVI file to fit on two CDs, should be openable on windows.
[03:03] <Crescendo> How do I do this?
[03:04] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: its a hercules video card!  so what can I do?
[03:04] <Warbo> Crescendo: mencoder probably. Just give it a start and end time/frame option
[03:04] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: what would you do if you had a card you dont know?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Grisen: gag is not an official ubuntu package i wouold try #gag
[03:04] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: i bought one i did know ;)
[03:05] <Grisen> gnomefreak - do you have a link, esp with instructions, how-to?
[03:05] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: :) so what can I do? and why does it work o breezy and not dapper?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: if you dont have drivers for it (and i doubt ubuntu does) it will end up vesa
[03:05] <Grisen> I am trying to dump WInDOZE and migrate to Linux
[03:05] <gnomefreak> Grisen: the site you have has instructions on it
[03:05] <Warbo> eternaljoy: I know someone who used a hercules card which was faster than his CPU. He only had enough money to upgrade graphics :)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Grisen: what is wrong with grub?
[03:06] <Grisen> gnomefreak, but it's for GAG not #gag
[03:06] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok! but in breezy vesa still works at 800x600 @ 85hz!  but in Dapper it doesnt seem to want to! why is that?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Grisen: why not use grub?
[03:06] <eternaljoy> Warbo: lol ;)
[03:06] <Warbo> Grisen: #gag refers to an IRC room (like you are in #ubuntu now)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: it should in dapper
[03:06] <Grisen> I tried to install Grub on b with Ubuntu and win 98 is still sitting on A
[03:06] <Buncho> installed g77, but it can't find a file called crtl.o
[03:07] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: in Dapper when I chose it, it skips back to 1024x768 @ 76Hz!
[03:07] <Warbo> Grisen: GRUB needs to be accessible, usually on the first drive. If Win98 gets booted first then obviously GRUb will not get a chance to load
[03:07] <Grisen> Supposedly GAG would give me a boot disk with a choice to boot from b-- not working.  I can dialog with grub but wont boot
[03:07] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: read the site change the options for res
[03:07] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: I have option to chose it, but when X rebvoots, it jumps back to 1024x768!  weird eh?
[03:07] <Warbo> Grisen: You get the GRUB menu?
[03:07] <Grisen> Want to see some grub info?
[03:07] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: i entered my monitors res
[03:07] <Grisen> Yes I get menu
[03:08] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: same as breezy xorg
[03:08] <Warbo> Grisen: That is good. It should be easier to fix stuff
[03:08] <Grisen> Good warbo what can I show you?
[03:08] <Warbo> Grisen: OK, but remember to put large text posts into pastebin
[03:08] <Warbo> !tell Grisen about pastebin
[03:08] <Grisen> root (hd 0,0)
[03:08] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: can I copy the xrog from breezy over the dapper xorg file?
[03:09] <Warbo> Grisen: Well, that seems wrong to begin with :)
[03:09] <jramsey> is the breezy pkg server still up?
[03:09] <Grisen> Why?
[03:09] <orbin> eternaljoy: it's not weird.  if you have 1024 defined as your default res. in xorg, X will choose it whenever you boot into it
[03:09] <Warbo> Grisen: (hd0,0) mean your first hard drive, but you say it is on the second
[03:09] <Ronz> if i want to try kde for ubuntu...can i install kde and try it?
[03:09] <Warbo> (hd1,0) is second drive (first partition)
[03:09] <Ronz> even though i have gnome atm?
[03:09] <eternaljoy> orbin: how can I make it 800x600 as deafult res?
[03:09] <Grisen> I tried to install to second, and did not resize win 98 partitions on first, but grub seems to be there?
[03:09] <Flannel> Ronz: install the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:10] <orbin> eternaljoy: gksudo 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:10] <Grisen> Used alternate install
[03:10] <Warbo> Grisen: Are you on about 2 hard drives here, or 2 partitions on the same hard drive?
[03:10] <Ronz> Flannel, and if i dont like it, how do i switch back?
[03:10] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok opened!  what line?
[03:10] <orbin> eternaljoy: then search for the string "Modes"
[03:10] <Grisen> Two drives
[03:10] <Grisen> Win98 on drive one, unaltered
[03:10] <Grisen> Nothing done intentionally to boot sector
[03:10] <Flannel> Ronz: each time you login you can change which OS you boot into, under 'session'
[03:10] <jramsey> update mgr can't stat source pkgs on breezy seveas; is the svr still up??
[03:11] <Grisen> Ubuntu installed from alternte CD to b
[03:11] <Ronz> ths Flannel
[03:11] <Warbo> Grisen: OK, then the "root" line should have (hd1,0), and the "kernel" line should say something like "root=/dev/hdb1"
[03:11] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok brb
[03:11] <Grisen> Tried to install grub to b
[03:11] <selfharm> ubuntu gui is gnome, yes?
[03:11] <orbin> eternaljoy: there should be several of them, it should look something like:  Modes           "1024x768"
[03:11] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok found them
[03:11] <Warbo> selfharm: Yes
[03:11] <selfharm> thanks again warbo
[03:11] <orbin> eternaljoy: what does yours say?
[03:11] <eternaljoy> orbin: yes foind them!  whats next?
[03:11] <Grisen> How do I correct it
[03:11] <Grisen> Wipe b clean and start over?
[03:11] <eternaljoy> orbin: it says DefaultDepth	16
[03:12] <Warbo> KDE and XFCE have official support, and pretty much every other WM has unofficial support
[03:12] <eternaljoy> orbin: and SubSection "Display"
[03:12] <Ronz> im breaking like, every linux rule by running kde and gnome. =P
[03:12] <eternaljoy> 		Depth		16
[03:12] <eternaljoy> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600"
[03:12] <eternaljoy> orbin: but its also got other modes
[03:12] <orbin> eternaljoy: there you go.  1024 is "first" because it is leftmost, so it is default
[03:12] <eternaljoy> orbin: display 1 to 24
[03:12] <nondysjunction> hello
[03:12] <lacasadelprecort> hi
[03:13] <Grisen> Hello
[03:13] <Grisen> wasnt taking the info I typed
[03:13] <Warbo> Grisen: I am assuming that "A" means the first drive, containing Win98, on the first connector on the IDE cable, and "B" means the second drive, on the second connector of the first IDE cable?
[03:13] <eternaljoy> orbin: ah ok! so can I delete 1024 from SubSection "Display"
[03:13] <eternaljoy> 		Depth		16 ?
[03:13] <orbin> eternaljoy: yes, those are for different color depths IIRC.  if you are happy with 800x600, delete all the other resolutions so all the Modelines look like: Modes "800x600"
[03:13] <bioticpro> How do I change the default action for what X does for the mouse wheel click?
[03:13] <Grisen> Warbo, exactly
[03:13] <J2D2> can the default sound recorder in ubuntu do .mp3 files?
[03:13] <nondysjunction> I can't seem to get multiverse working on 5.10. I have added "universe multiverse" to the entries in sources.list. Suggestions?
[03:13] <billym> Anyone have any experience with python?????
[03:13] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok!  and do I leave this:  DefaultDepth	16 ?
[03:13] <^ohoel> does anyone know how to change language for a current user?
[03:13] <Warbo> Grisen: Then Linux sees the first drive as /dev/hda and grub sees it as hd0. The second drive is /dev/hdb and hd1.
[03:13] <eternaljoy> orbin: when it says DefaultDepth	16 does that mean it only uses the mode 16 line?
[03:13] <Grisen> Win 98 will boot, Ubuntu will not
[03:14] <orbin> eternaljoy: exactly
[03:14] <orbin> eternaljoy: but i usually just change them all anyway
[03:14] <Grisen> Warbo, so somehow, grub got on b
[03:14] <eternaljoy> orbin: am I safe to just delete 1026x768 from the mode 16 line?
[03:14] <Grisen> Sorry, A
[03:14] <Warbo> Grisen: If you use a GRUB floppy disc then you can boot the second drive without altering Win98 drive
[03:14] <orbin> eternaljoy: yes, it's safe
[03:14] <eternaljoy> orbin: okk i will delete all 1024x768
[03:14] <Grisen> How to make a Grub floppy?
[03:14] <Warbo> Grisen: Do you have 2 entries on the GRUB menu? (1 Windows and 1 Ubuntu)?
[03:15] <Grisen> I could access Grub on A but it failed to boot b
[03:15] <Grisen> Final message in boot sequence was
[03:15] <Grisen> Target file system doesnt have /sbin/init
[03:15] <eternaljoy> orbin: do you use Dapper?
[03:15] <orbin> eternaljoy: out of interest, why would you want to go lower? is it just to get a higher refresh rate?
[03:15] <orbin> eternaljoy: i'm on dapper, yes.
[03:16] <eternaljoy> orbin: because at 75hz and lower I get headaches!  but at 800x600 and 85Hz I never get headache
[03:16] <Grisen> Warbo, no 2 entries, see above for boot message
[03:16] <Warbo> Grisen: OK, then you need to change the line which begins with "kernel". It has a bit which says "root=/dev/something". It should probably need to say /dev/hdb1
[03:16] <eternaljoy> orbin: can you please have a look at my Dapper sources.list and tell me if its correct?
[03:16] <orbin> eternaljoy: yeah, thought that was it.
[03:16] <Grisen> Warbo, looking
[03:16] <billym> Although I successfully installed python2.4-twisted, I cannot get the twisted framework to work....
[03:17] <orbin> eternaljoy: let's take care of this first :)
[03:17] <Grisen> Kernel /boot vmlinuz...  root=/dev/hdbl ro quiet spash    Error 15 file not found
[03:17] <eternaljoy> orbin: i changed them! but cant see till i reboot and cant reboot till later as my modem hangs up
[03:17] <eternaljoy> orbin: so can you quickly look at my sources in meantime?
[03:17] <orbin> eternaljoy: ah, ok then.
[03:17] <orbin> !paste > eternaljoy
[03:17] <orbin> eternaljoy: put them on the pastebin
[03:18] <Warbo> Grisen: I assume you mean: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash
[03:18] <Grisen> YEs
[03:18] <Warbo> Grisen: In which case hdb1 must be wrong
[03:18] <eternaljoy> orbin: I had my sources changed by someone today and all of a sudden it says I need 59mb updates!  IM not sure im using the proper sources for Dappper
[03:18] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok pastebin, brb
[03:18] <jramsey> so tell me 6.06 LTS is dapper? and there is little jeopardy in upgrading breezy to this version??
[03:18] <Warbo> Grisen: Do you remember how the second drive was partitioned?
[03:18] <Warbo> !tell jramsey about upgrade
[03:18] <eternaljoy> orbin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19525
[03:18] <orbin> eternaljoy: looking
[03:18] <Grisen> I can look-- have GRUB on that machine up now
[03:19] <Grisen> Tell me
[03:19] <eternaljoy> orbin: i just want to know if my sources is the correct one for latest Dapper security updates etc
[03:19] <eternaljoy> orbin: thank you
[03:19] <nondysjunction> I can't seem to get multiverse working on 5.10. I have added "universe multiverse" to the entries in sources.list. Suggestions?
[03:19] <jramsey> Warbo, dapper is reasonable stable?
[03:19] <Warbo> Grisen: Did you tell it to set up partitions manually, or automatically?
[03:19] <Warbo> jramsey: Yes
[03:19] <jramsey> ok ty
[03:19] <orbin> eternaljoy: seems fine.
[03:19] <Grisen> Automatically, I believe
[03:19] <orbin> eternaljoy: what updates is it asking to install?
[03:20] <Warbo> jramsey: Obviously it has a few bugs, but generally more hardware and stuff works in in than Breezy since it uses newer versions of stuff
[03:20] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok!  but i had the dapper one before and it gave me no updates!  weird
[03:20] <Warbo> Grisen: Then the partitions will probably be hdb1=root and hdb2=swap, in which case that line should work.
[03:20] <eternaljoy> orbin: 102 updates, acpi-support cupsys, gnome deskjtop data etc etc
[03:20] <eternaljoy> orbin: can that be right?
[03:20] <Warbo> Grisen: Does it say "OK booting the kernel" at any point?
[03:20] <hoehaver> i burned a cd using nero for linux and the cd was an AVI movie
[03:21] <hoehaver> my dads computer is win xp
[03:21] <orbin> eternaljoy: well you've got the official repositories there.  have you not updated in a while?
[03:21] <hoehaver> it couldnt read it, why not?
[03:21] <Grisen> warbo, no it doesn;t
[03:21] <Warbo> !tell hoehaver about burn
[03:21] <Grisen> It ends withtarget file system doesnt have /sbin/init
[03:21] <Warbo> Grisen: That may be an initrd problem. What is the initrd line (under kernel)
[03:22] <jramsey> Warbo, when upd mgr ran, it fetched files then displayed this: http://pastebin.ca/112575
[03:22] <eternaljoy> orbin: after I installed Dapper 1 week ago I already updated 130 files and 180mb!  But today my sources was changed and now it asks to update 102 updates!
[03:22] <eternaljoy> orbin: should I show you my previous sources?
[03:22] <Grisen> Warbo looking
[03:22] <orbin> eternaljoy: sure, pastebin it
[03:23] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok
[03:23] <eternaljoy> orbin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19526
[03:23] <Warbo> jramsey: That is not an official Ubuntu repository. Maybe change breezy to dapper in it?
[03:23] <Grisen> [Linux-initrd@)xf86b000, 0x674152 bytes] 
[03:23] <eternaljoy> orbin: thats the sources I been using for 1 week!  and according to that my system needs no update
[03:23] <orbin> hoehaver: was it a data cd with an avi file on it, or was it a vcd/whatever?
[03:23] <jramsey> Warbo, must be my sources file ... will change it and retry txs
[03:24] <eternaljoy> orbin: but when I changed sources today to the latest one you saw earlier, it tells me i need 102 updates!  im confused :P
[03:24] <Warbo> Grisen: I mean in the boot entry. There should be a root line, a kernel line, an initrd line then maybe a savedefault line then a boot line
[03:24] <eternaljoy> orbin: if you can put some light on it for me, i would be grateful
[03:24] <Grisen> warbo, Looking-- i manually went through whole boot sequence, prompting grub
[03:24] <Warbo> jramsey: If you don't already have it then install the ubuntu-desktop package, it helps with upgrades and you can always remove it after
[03:24] <Warbo> Grisen: Ah
[03:25] <eternaljoy> orbin: anything to do with it being .au before?  does the au servers differ?
[03:25] <Warbo> Grisen: Well when Ubuntu is up you can change /boot/grub/menu.lst to save your changes :)
[03:25] <Grisen> Yes, that is the initrd line
[03:25] <Grisen> I did root
[03:25] <Grisen> then kernl command
[03:25] <Grisen> then inird
[03:25] <orbin> eternaljoy: well, from what i can tell, first one doesn't have dapper-updates enabled
[03:25] <Grisen>  thn there was lot of scrolling
[03:26] <Grisen>  this error
[03:26] <Warbo> Grisen: The line should look like "initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386" or something
[03:26] <Grisen> Mounting sys on /root/sys failed:  no such file or directory
[03:26] <Grisen> Here it is
[03:26] <orbin> eternaljoy: i'm guessing your first big update was security packages ... this next one is less so
[03:26] <eternaljoy> orbin: hmm thats weird!  so why did it upgrade 186mb of files?
[03:26] <orbin> eternaljoy: .au doesn't matter,  it's just a mirror
[03:26] <ReWT_AxS> does dapper drake come with samba?
[03:26] <eternaljoy> orbin: anyway! so I am safe to use this latest sources?
[03:27] <Warbo> Grisen: I will pastebin an entry which I think will work, then tell me if it does. Give me a sec (on a slow LiveCD)
[03:27] <eternaljoy> orbin: so you mean just update these 102 files and take it from there?
[03:27] <orbin> eternaljoy: well their official repositories, so you're safe, yes.
[03:27] <Grisen> initrd /boot/initrd.img - 2.6.15-23-386 and I hit enter
[03:27] <eternaljoy> orbin: thanks a lot!  deeply appreciate your help and time
[03:27] <eternaljoy> orbin: so does 6links you have also?
[03:27] <orbin> eternaljoy: yw
[03:27] <eternaljoy> orbin: my latest sources has 6 active links! thats all I need?  same as yours?
[03:27] <orbin> eternaljoy: i'll pastebin mine, hang on
[03:28] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok
[03:28] <Grisen> Noob here-- where do I find pastebin (sorry!)
[03:28] <ReWT_AxS> pastebin!
[03:28] <ReWT_AxS> !pastebin
[03:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:28] <orbin> eternaljoy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19527
[03:28] <orbin> eternaljoy: the last one is just for a music player i like
[03:28] <jramsey> Warbo, wouldn't you think that upd mgr would, when updating to dapper, fix up the sources.list file on its own? i fixed it and it is past the problem txs
[03:28] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok
[03:29] <ReWT_AxS> Does Dapper come with Samba?
[03:29] <orbin> !samba > ReWT_AxS
[03:29] <eternaljoy> orbin: you also only have 6 links!  are those the same as mine?
[03:30] <Warbo> jramsey: It fixes the ubuntu repos, but not external ones like seveas. What if a repo doesn't have a dapper version? Then you would be complaining that it broke your sources.list :)
[03:30] <Grisen> Warbo - trying to access pastebin, thanks
[03:30] <eternaljoy> orbin: so all I need do is sudp apt-get update and sudo apt-upgrade ?
[03:30] <orbin> eternaljoy: looks, like it, yes. except i'm using the aussie mirror
[03:30] <Warbo> Grisen: I think this should work (make sure you put each in exactly as it appears) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19528
[03:30] <jramsey> Warbo, :) i guess i'm not really complaining ... sometimes things seem to easy to "fix up" automatically
[03:30] <orbin> eternaljoy: yep, that will upgrade your system
[03:31] <eternaljoy> orbin: ty for your partience. brb
[03:31] <bartholomeus> bonsoir
[03:31] <jramsey> Warbo, b4 i push the final button, any extra pkgs i loaded in breezy will be loaded automatically with the dapper update right?
[03:31] <Warbo> jramsey: Yes, should do
[03:31] <orbin> eternaljoy: the commands are: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade btw (don't know if your tyops were typos or not)
[03:31] <jramsey> Warbo, ok txs i am off for a few hours while it updates
[03:31] <Grisen> Warbo, IE6 on this expensive XP
[03:32] <Grisen>  laptop says cant find page
[03:32] <Grisen> :-(
[03:32] <Warbo> Grisen: That link I gave you?
[03:32] <Grisen> Cannot find server
[03:32] <Warbo> Grisen: I will give it you line by line then
[03:32] <Grisen> Yes, when I learn Linux, I'm dumping XP Pro on this new laptop
[03:32] <Warbo> root(hd1,0)
[03:33] <Grisen> yes
[03:33] <eternaljoy> orbin: ok :)
[03:33] <Warbo> kernel(hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386root=/dev/hdb1ro
[03:33] <Warbo> initrd(hd1,0)/boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
[03:33] <Warbo> boot
[03:33] <Warbo> That should be it
[03:34] <Grisen> warbo, willl that move grub where it belongs?
[03:34] <jojoman> How do I remove a boot sector virus?
[03:34] <mdirc> In sudoers I am trying to allow user to execute "exec" without requiring password. The following configuration - user <tab> ALL=(exec) NOPASSWD  gives me a Warning: undeclared Cmnd_Alias `NOPASSWD' referenced What ami doing wrong
[03:34] <Grisen> do I need to resize boot partition on A
[03:34] <Warbo> Grisen: No, but it should boot Ubuntu so you can sort GRUB out
[03:34] <Warbo> Grisen: You have a boot partition?
[03:35] <orbin> jojoman: wrong channel mate
[03:35] <g0real> I want to help ubuntu become the best OS out there. Where do I start ?
[03:35] <Grisen> When Ubuntu boots what then-- I also do have a live CD
[03:35] <Warbo> g0real: Look for the MarketingTeam in the Wiki
[03:35] <g0real> Well, I am a computer engineer. So I was thinking more technical than just marketing.
[03:35] <jojoman> orbin: no it is the right channel cause iam useing ubuntu.
[03:36] <Grisen> There is a win98 boot sector on Drive 1 (a)
[03:36] <Warbo> Grisen: You can move GRUB onto a different partition/drive with "sudo grub-install /dev/device" (where device is hdb or something)
[03:36] <Grisen> That's where 98 is
[03:36] <Grisen> Ubuntu is on B, though I havent been able to find out where grub is or should be, except it appears to be on a
[03:36] <mister_roboto> g0real, have you looked at the wiki or checked the devel lists to see what they are looking for? that would be better than asking in irc
[03:37] <Warbo> Grisen: If you have a seperate boot partition then your GRUB entries should look very different. You sure you did it automatically (in which case, no boot partition is made)
[03:37] <g0real> I will right now. Thanks !
[03:37] <jf> hello
[03:37] <Grisen> Yes pretty sure lacking knowledge to do differently
[03:37] <jf> Oh great, finally got this to work at least :)
[03:37] <jojoman> So, does anyone know how to remove a boot sector virus? Or can give me a link for some help?
[03:37] <Grisen> boot partition is for win98-- the usual one and resides on a with win98
[03:37] <g0real> boot sector virus ?
[03:38] <jf> I'm new to ubuntu (and linux in general)
[03:38] <g0real> Win98 ?
[03:38] <g0real> jf: welcome
[03:38] <Warbo> Grisen: If GRUB is coming up then it is probably on hda. That can be fixed, but GRUB needs to boot before Win98, so that is why I said you may need to make a GRUB floppy (just "sudo grub-install /dev/fd0" when you are in Ubuntu)
[03:38] <Ronz> boot sector virus?
[03:38] <Ronz> haven't heard of them in a while. =)
[03:38] <g0real> IF you are in WIndows or DOS, a "FDISK /MBR" will bo it
[03:38] <g0real> will do it
[03:38] <Ronz> jojoman, or do a search for the program active@killdisk
[03:38] <Grisen> Okay, so I get to ubuntu using the commands you gave, then I make a grub floppy from Ubuntu command line
[03:38] <Ronz> or killdisk
[03:38] <jf> I have a question, I am using Xubuntu...I was installing updates and somehow my interface got screwed up a little and I can't get it back how it was...I lost my "taskbar" and such...
[03:38] <jojoman> Ronz I have that
[03:38] <Grisen> How does a person get to command line in Linux
[03:39] <Ronz> jojoman, did ya run it?
[03:39] <g0real> maybe even using fdisk on Linux will work... anyone ?
[03:39] <Warbo> !tell Grisen about cli
[03:39] <Grisen> I've played with the live cd but dont see an option for command line
[03:39] <sethk> Grisen, there is a "terminal" program on the accessory menu
[03:39] <Warbo> Grisen: Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[03:39] <HazemMohamed> n #eglug
[03:39] <Ronz> jojoman, and when you do run it, make sure you set bios back to default afterward
[03:39] <jojoman> Ronz: yes I did and it told me I have a boot sector viurs
[03:39] <g0real> Grisen: KDE or GNOME ?
[03:39] <eric___> Say - what's the channel for off-topic ubuntu questions?
[03:39] <g0real> Grisen: you want "konsole" or "xterm"
[03:40] <Grisen> okay-- maybe should just use the live CD and create a grub diskette?
[03:40] <Warbo> !tell eric___ about offtopic
[03:40] <Ronz> jojoman, and it didn't do all zero's?
[03:40] <sethk> Grisen, that works, I have one box I boot that way.
[03:40] <Grisen> GNOME
[03:40] <sethk> Grisen, for gnome you want gnome-terminal
[03:40] <eric___> Warbo: Right - about Ubuntu, but not a support issue.
[03:40] <sethk> Grisen, which is called "terminal" on the menu but the name of the program is gnome-terminal
[03:40] <Warbo> Grisen: That may help yes. The most important thing would be Ubuntu CD's ability to tell you which drives are which (that is confusing me, and may be the problem)
[03:40] <Grisen> I am happy to boot to linux from floppy, want to learn it and leave Windoze
[03:41] <jojoman> Ronz: I chose the 1 pass random and I did it one more time to make shure and it still told me I had boot sector virus
[03:41] <eric___> Warbo: So, what channel should I use?
[03:41] <Grisen> Can I ask grub here on the other machine and tell you?
[03:41] <Warbo> eric___: "Ubuntu support" covers quite a large base. Offtopic is usually full of football and Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, so ask Ubuntu stuff in here :)
[03:42] <sethk> Grisen, I don't understand the question
[03:42] <Ronz> jojoman, have you tried to fdisk the hard drive?
[03:42] <isede> i want to delete file from the NTFS partition (i cannot do it from windows bec it's a virus dll that runs with windows explorer), but it seems that i can mount it only for reading. is there any way to write to the ntfs?
[03:42] <eric___> Warbo: OK, then.  I was wondering if anything official has been said about what features are anticipated for edgy, v 6.10?
[03:42] <Grisen> Warbo wants to know which drive of the two Ubuntu sees as Win98 and which as Ubuntu and where it sees grub
[03:42] <move> hello
[03:42] <move> can someone tell me how to burn an ISO from console?
[03:42] <TokenBad> move you can't use k3b?
[03:42] <move> more specifically, the newest Desktop Ubuntu ISO from the Server Ubuntu console
[03:43] <sethk> isede, writing to ntfs is unsafe.  what you need to do is boot the XP install cd and go into repair mode
[03:43] <jojoman> Ronz: it does nothing when I type in the termal "fdisk -l
[03:43] <sethk> isede, it's possible to use wine to write to ntfs, but it isn't a good idea for your problem
[03:43] <move> TokenBad: is k3b for console?
[03:43] <isede> sethk: i don't have a CD
[03:43] <Warbo> eric___: I usually go by the "Edgy Ideas" pages in the WIki and look for MattZimmerman's replies (like "This is already implemented" and stuff). Also there are some developers' pages with their own ideas (like MattZimmerman's ) and they have implementation notices
[03:43] <Ronz> jojoman, try fdisk /dev/hda1 or whatever the drive is
[03:43] <sethk> isede, then probably you'll have a repair option on the windows boot menu
[03:43] <Ronz> err, fdisk /dev/hda
[03:44] <isede> sethk: what is the worst that can happen?
[03:44] <isede> i mean, if i do write the ntfs
[03:44] <sethk> isede, if you write to ntfs?  you could lose all the files in the ntfs partition
[03:44] <eric___> Warbo: Do you know if compiz and/or glx is better integrated so I can spin windows around and such?
[03:44] <sethk> isede, you can, of course, back those files up to a linux partition, which is only reading.
[03:44] <Warbo> Grisen: Running an Ubuntu LiveCD on the 98 computer, then goping in System>Administration>Disks should tell you where each drive and partition is
[03:45] <sethk> isede, but there is a repair mode for windows.  At some point you press R to get into repair mode.  you'll get a terminal and you'll be able to delete that file.
[03:45] <jojoman> Ronz: It says unable to open
[03:45] <isede> sethk: i heard that knoppix lets you write to ntfs, how does it do that?
[03:45] <orbin> jojoman: sudo fdisk -l
[03:45] <Warbo> eric___: I believe it is going to be included as decent packages (getting rid of any custom scripts and stuff) but I am not sure whether it will be installed by default
[03:45] <sethk> isede, any linux can do it.  but it isn't safe.  I didn't say it wasn't possible.  it's a kernel option and any linux can enable it.
[03:45] <sethk> isede, usually requires a kernel rebuild, however.
[03:45] <TokenBad> move I am not sure what you mean by console...you mean in terminal?
[03:46] <isede> sethk: thank you
[03:46] <sethk> isede, I would consider it to be a very last resort
[03:46] <erus`> are the forums down?
[03:46] <erus`> www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:46] <p01n7> org
[03:46] <Grisen> Warbo, I've looked at system, administration, disks-- will go there and come back, okay?
[03:46] <erus`> back now
[03:46] <orbin> erus`: work fine here
[03:47] <move> TokenBad: Yes, terminal
[03:47] <Warbo> Grisen: Sure (you know, GAIM is included on the CD so you can chat in here from within the CD. I am doing that now :) )
[03:48] <TokenBad> move, you not have gui?
[03:48] <move> TokenBad: you should really look up the word console if you don't know what it means
[03:48] <Grisen> Okay, Ill try GAIM tho I am a noob to chat too.  I do know my way around a windoze box
[03:48] <TokenBad> console could mean a couple things...thats why asked
[03:49] <move> does anyone know how to burn ISOs in console?
[03:49] <Grisen> Booting live CD......
[03:49] <jojoman> Orbin: it says it doesnt contian a valid partition table
[03:49] <move> TokenBad: usually when people are in #ubuntu on a computer, they mean the kind of console you see... on a computer
[03:49] <erus`> gah glx wont work... :( how do i completely remove fglrx?
[03:49] <TokenBad> well for your answer...try cdw
[03:49] <TokenBad> console version
[03:50] <TokenBad> but I think when someone is trying to help you could be a little more civil..
[03:50] <TokenBad> cdw - Tool for burning CD's - console version
[03:50] <Grisen> Warbo, was sickened by MSoft's decision to drop 98 users, learned about it 10 days before drop dead date
[03:50] <TokenBad> its in apt-get
[03:50] <orbin> jojoman: i'm deferring to Ronz  ... only reason i piped up is b/c i knew fdisk needed a sudo in front
[03:50] <orbin> sorry
[03:50] <Grisen> That was the last straw for me...
[03:50] <farous> !webcam
[03:50] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:51] <Grisen> Immediately went to Firefox and Tbird
[03:51] <Ronz> =)
[03:51] <Warbo> Grisen: You weren't using them already :)
[03:51] <Grisen> Had to find new firewall to replace zonealarm
[03:52] <Grisen> And these two machines have worked beautifully on a wireless network
[03:52] <jojoman> ronz: orbin: i figured it out thanx!
[03:52] <Grisen> Okay here comes the cd
[03:52] <J2D2> what proggie can i use to stream my cam, not camserv though. Something with a gui
[03:52] <Ronz> np jojo
[03:52] <InstantlyKarmic> hows everyone doin 2nite
[03:53] <Grisen> No I was a happy captive M$oft user
[03:53] <erus`> How can i completely remove fglrx from my system please?
[03:53] <Grisen> Okay disks manager is up
[03:53] <BHSPitMonkey> erus`?
[03:53] <BHSPitMonkey> I thought open source was a sin. you said.
[03:53] <erus`> ye but
[03:53] <erus`> ye
[03:54] <orbin> Ronz:  what was wrong exactly?  how did looking at his PT help?
[03:54] <erus`> i need xgl to work
[03:54] <Grisen> First, hard disk 18.65 gig
[03:54] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hda
[03:54] <erus`> please answer my question ^
[03:54] <Grisen> partitions
[03:54] <Ronz> orbin, he had a problem with a boot sector virus. did 2 random passes, and it was still there
[03:55] <nullifx> how do i get miniwin and dock plugins to enable in compiz?  the tabs are in gset-compiz but are greyed out
[03:55] <Grisen> 1
[03:55] <Grisen> windows virtual fat
[03:55] <orbin> Ronz: random pass?  (never had a BSV)
[03:55] <Cornellius> nullifx: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:55] <Grisen> status inaccessible
[03:55] <Grisen> click enable-- no change
[03:55] <TooBazz> In mandriva how to you access software other then whats on your installation cd's?
[03:56] <nullifx> ah thanks
[03:56] <Grisen> hard disk 7.8 gig
[03:56] <TokenBad> move that work for you?
[03:56] <Ronz> orbin, there are few ways of perminantly destroying data on a hard drive. one way is changing every bit to a 0. another way to do it is to to do random bits, and scramble the information
[03:56] <Grisen> device dev/hdb
[03:56] <Grisen> extended 3
[03:56] <orbin> Ronz: ah, ok.  thanks for the info.
[03:56] <Ronz> =)
[03:56] <Grisen> access path none
[03:56] <Grisen> status inaccessible
[03:56] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529.
[03:57] <Grisen> click enable - no change (inaccessible)
[03:57] <TooBazz> In mandriva how to you access software other then whats on your installation cd's?
[03:57] <move> TokenBad: I can't find the name of the cdw package
[03:57] <move> TokenBad: sudo apt-get install cdw doesn't work and I can't seem to find it on google
[03:57] <Grisen> Does this help?  I know there was something graphic with partition info also last time
[03:57] <orbin> TooBazz: er, wrong channel?
[03:57] <g0real> TooBazz: madriva questions in an ubuntu channel ???
[03:58] <TooBazz> You people are more intelligent.
[03:58] <Artan1s> TooBazz:  I know, thank you.
[03:58] <Grisen> Warbo?
[03:58] <g0real> TooBazz: anyway, your answer is called "urpmi", google it
[03:58] <TooBazz> ta
[03:58] <TokenBad> move, you have all your repositories set? cause its in mine
[03:59] <move> TokenBad: nope, I don't know how to do that from console
[03:59] <g0real> TooBazz: I used to be a Mandriva user myself. Not anymore
[03:59] <xtom_____> hello
[03:59] <move> !cdw
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdw - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <Grisen> WARBO gnome partition editor
[03:59] <move> !cd
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about cd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <move> !burning
[03:59] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:59] <g0real> what is cdw ?
[03:59] <TooBazz> Why not mandriva anymore?
[03:59] <mikomiko> hello, my sounds has gone to no where after upgrade
[04:00] <xtom_____> does anybody know how to connect to this channel irc://thelinuxlink.net/techshow
[04:00] <mikomiko> how do i turn it back
[04:00] <move> cdrecord
[04:00] <move> there we go
[04:00] <move> guess all I really needed was a boy
[04:00] <move> bot*
[04:00] <g0real> TooBazz: Because it was a pain maintaining up to date. The ubuntu/kubuntu community is more active.
[04:00] <dura> How do I get apt to upgrade the kernel-image?
[04:00] <g0real> TooBazz: I actually use Kubuntu
[04:00] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hda1 7.87gig-- looks like win98 isn't set to use the whole drive (!)
[04:00] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''
[04:00] <TooBazz> why is it a pain?
[04:01] <Grisen> warbo /dev/hda1 has orange triangle with ! in it
[04:01] <g0real> TooBazz: because of your same question "how do you access software other that..."
[04:01] <Grisen> flags:  boot lba
[04:01] <g0real> TooBazz: I find that ubuntu's adept package manager and .deb packages are better
[04:02] <TooBazz> ok
[04:02] <Konstable> what is the shell command to display Ubuntu version?
[04:02] <Grisen> unallocated 10.78 gig-- must have happened when in used Acronis to rescue 98
[04:02] <TooBazz> bummer
[04:02] <g0real> Konstable: uname -a
[04:02] <TooBazz> i like mandriva...didnt know the packmanager sucked
[04:02] <g0real> TooBazz: No no no, it doesn't suck. I actually like it.
[04:02] <Konstable> g0real: That just shows the Kernel version.  Not the Ubuntu itself.
[04:02] <reck> help , please, I installed ubuntu in my laptop, but when i start, nothing happens only a message uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernel.
[04:03] <g0real> TooBazz: And mandriva's drakconf is very good (wish ubunutu had something similar)
[04:03] <Grisen> Warbo that's the only device GParted shows (where is B with Ubuntu on it??)
[04:03] <Grisen> No here is b
[04:03] <g0real> TooBazz: It's just the available packages. THe size of the ubuntu community is larger, so more people contribute
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[04:03] <orbin> Konstable: lsb_releas -a or cat /etc/issue
[04:03] <dura> Anyone?
[04:04] <orbin> *lsb_release
[04:04] <g0real> TooBazz: Also Mandriva is a company
[04:04] <TooBazz> ok thanks
[04:04] <dura> How do I tell apt to install a new kernel image?
[04:04] <TooBazz> yeah i think ubuntu will be a company soon too
[04:04] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hdb1 7.51GB
[04:04] <g0real> TooBazz: so it has a smaller staff
[04:04] <Konstable> orbin: ah, thanks
[04:04] <orbin> yw
[04:04] <Grisen> ext3 used 1.93 GB
[04:05] <orbin> dura: sudo aptitude install <kernel_image_package>
[04:05] <g0real> TooBazz: but Mandriva controls too much... Again it's userbase and up-to-date packages that made it for me
[04:05] <Grisen> Flags: boot
[04:05] <JoseGosdin> Hi, my name is Jose Gosdin and I am starting a Christian Ubuntu version. If you would like to help out please join #christianubuntu or if you have any spare time, please digg our submission at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Jesus_Linux_Ubuntu_Christian_Edition Thank you for your support. :)
[04:05] <TooBazz> ok
[04:05] <orbin> dura: do an apt search for linux-image
[04:05] <dura> orbin: When I do apt-get upgrade it tells me the kernel-images has been kept back.
[04:05] <dura> -s
[04:05] <regeya> a...christian...operating system.
[04:05] <danf_1979> to execute a script in /etc/init.d/ is not as easy as just placing the script in there?
[04:05] <g0real> Mayeb someone here can help me with this one: as root on the console I can't open an X window
[04:05] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hdb2 rcyrnfrf 368.68MB
[04:05] <Warbo> Grisen: That looks like /
[04:05] <J2D2> yeah...i'm christian, but why start a christian os?
[04:06] <g0real> Where are the root's permission set to access the :0.0 display ?
[04:06] <Warbo> Grisen: hdb2 looks like swap
[04:06] <skullripper> how do i know the speed of a proccesor in linux
[04:06] <regeya> JoseGosdin: are you adding in christian-themed art?  removing the nekkid people?  I'm very curious .
[04:06] <Grisen> Under that /dev/hdb5 linux-swap 368.65 mb
[04:06] <orbin> dura: i'm not sure.  i think it's waiting for other packages to be upgraded first before it can.
[04:06] <Grisen> Warbo THAT's It
[04:06] <dura> orbin: It tells me: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-server
[04:06] <orbin> skullripper: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:06] <dura> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[04:07] <ed1t> k i just installed xubuntu and the installer didnt create the swap partition
[04:07] <dura> No other packages...
[04:07] <JoseGosdin> regeya, I have outlined changes we would like to make at http://www.christianubuntu.com/ and on my comment to our digg submission at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Jesus_Linux_Ubuntu_Christian_Edition
[04:07] <skullripper> orbin, thanks
[04:07] <TokenBad> move, you see my private msg's?
[04:07] <Grisen> So how do I make this linux wannabe box boot and act friendly?  ;-)
[04:07] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''. Work as a normal user, not as root.
[04:07] <Warbo> Grisen: is it possible that hdb2 is /boot? If so that would be why grub wasn't working
[04:07] <regeya> aye, I'll take a look JoseGosdin ...thanks
[04:07] <g0real> JoseGOsdin: I am very curious about what you don't like of the standard distro
[04:07] <dura> Cornellius: Why are you trying to run X as root?
[04:08] <Grisen> looking
[04:08] <dura> Cornellius: Don't do that... not wise.
[04:08] <dura> use your user.
[04:08] <Cornellius> dura: Dude, I only did sudo in a terminal
[04:08] <Warbo> Grisen: Mount the drives and look what is on them ("enable" or something)
[04:08] <dura> Cornellius: sudo what ?
[04:08] <g0real> dura: I know what I am doing and I also need to display as root sometimes
[04:08] <Grisen> Under flags column for GParted it says boot for /dev/hdb1
[04:08] <Cornellius> dura: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <dura> g0real: Doesn't mean it's safe/secure.
[04:08] <orbin> dura: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[04:08] <g0real> dura: I know
[04:08] <dura> orbin: Ty :)
[04:09] <g0real> dura: you cannot do security by obscurity
[04:09] <Warbo> Grisen: Try mounting hdb1 and looking in it's boot folder
[04:09] <dura> g0real: Nor by stupidity.
[04:09] <Grisen> You know there are hundreds of thousands of 98 users who could be peeled from MSoft...
[04:09] <g0real> dura: doesn't work, hasn't work, will never work
[04:09] <TooBazz> can mandriva tap into red hat reposertories?
[04:09] <JoseGosdin> g0real, Well, it's more of a regional version of Ubuntu. It's not that anything is wrong with the default install (besides card games), but we would like to have web filtering, bible trivia, and bible study programs out of the box.
[04:09] <Grisen> How do I mount it?
[04:09] <Warbo> Grisen: Does it have an icon on thedesktop?
[04:10] <Grisen> For the live CD icons are Examples and Install
[04:10] <g0real> JoseGosdin: Ah, thanks. Sounds like a live CD will be great for it
[04:10] <sethk> besides, there is no difference between being root and being allowed to sudo every command there is, unless you count the fact that you have to type sudo.  that quickly simply becomes a habit and loses all value.
[04:10] <dura> orbin: Interesting... I thought I was missing an option in a config some where.
[04:10] <Warbo> Grisen: OK. I sys>admin>disks they will have a path shown (usually in /media). Go into that path in the file browser
[04:11] <Grisen> ok
[04:11] <orbin> dura: yeah, like i said ... didn't know that myself...glad i googled it just now :)
[04:11] <g0real> g0real admins 1000 workstations, 50% with linux, 2 100-node clusters, Solaris servers, and still some Irix boxes around. A few windows here and there
[04:11] <dura> orbin:  :)
[04:11] <dura> I don't feel so blind/dumb now heh
[04:12] <Grisen> disks manager shows a list of drives on the left including cd and floppy then two tabs for each drive you choose-- properties and partitions.  No pull down menus, is that what you mean, warbo?
[04:12] <Artan1s> I feel blind/dumb
[04:12] <blind> ouch dura
[04:12] <blind> ouch
[04:12] <Artan1s> I was the only person at HOPE without a laptop
[04:13] <Warbo> Grisen: Choose your hard drive with Ubuntu on it, then on the Partitions go on hdb1 and look where it is being mounted (in /media)
[04:13] <g0real> Wy does ubunto insists on mounting my USB stick on /media/sdb1 ?? All other distros mounted it by name, like /mnt/SECURE_II
[04:14] <g0real> (SECURE_II is the model of the USB stick)
[04:14] <Grisen> Sorry, not clear what you mean with this particular GUI
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> g0real,  it mounts mine by name
[04:14] <g0real> DrWillis: Really ?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> actually it mounts it by its Label Name
[04:14] <Warbo> g0real: /media is for gnome-volume-manager. It should recognise the name though
[04:14] <Grisen> It has partititon properties on the right (?)
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I renemed it under windows.. and it uses that name
[04:14] <Warbo> Grisen: yes, in there
[04:14] <g0real> It doesn't on mine (it's really Kubuntu--- do you think that matters ?)
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> not sure if gnome or kde makes a differance
[04:15] <Grisen> The buttons I can choose from are format, change and enable
[04:15] <sethk> I never use mount by label.  I've seen, more than once, someone add a partition, and the mounting changes (because the name of the new partition is the same as one of the old ones)
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> install ubuntu-desktop and see if gnome dies it better
[04:15] <Grisen> \I am in disks manager
[04:15] <Strykyr> how come no one told me about synaptic when i was trying to solve my tsl issue?
[04:15] <g0real> sethk: true
[04:15] <Grisen> Thats the GUI
[04:15] <Strykyr> tcl*
[04:15] <Warbo> Grisen: Where is the "Access Path" for Partition 1?
[04:15] <Grisen> (trying to avoid the word Window)
[04:16] <g0real> Dr_Willis: I really really hope gnome doesn't die .... ;)
[04:16] <sethk> Strykyr, probably assumed you already knew about it.
[04:16] <Grisen> warbo /dev/hdb1
[04:16] <ironuckles> hello
[04:16] <g0real> hi
[04:16] <Warbo> Grisen: That is not the access path :) Try clicking "Enable"
[04:16] <ironuckles> I'm having problems with printing and setting up a printer in Ubuntu
[04:17] <g0real> ironuckels: be specific
[04:17] <Grisen> Enable just returns the same look, no new information
[04:18] <Warbo> Grisen: Try typing "/mnt" into the Access Path, then click enable again
[04:18] <Grisen> I can type there-- trying...
[04:18] <ed1t> i installed xubuntu and the installer didnt create the swap partition...how would i create now?
[04:19] <g0real> ed1t: disk manager and resize
[04:19] <Warbo> ed1t: Do you know how to make partitons in the first place? (GParted in a LiveCD)
[04:19] <Grisen> Okay enable has changed to disable, so somethinng must have happened
[04:19] <ironuckles> g0real, okay, when I try to set up a printer via the System->Admin->Printers menu, it detects my printer, but doesn't populate the "manufacturer" combobox. I also tried downloading the PPD file for my printer, which worked, but I since disconnected the printer, and when I try to set it up again the exactly same way, it says the PPD file is already instead and errors out.
[04:19] <ed1t> Warbo: i let it do it
[04:19] <Grisen> Size: 7.51GB (5.2GB free)
[04:20] <Grisen> Status accessible
[04:20] <Grisen> Browse button is available
[04:20] <Warbo> Grisen: Go into /mnt in the file browser (eg. go on "Examples" then press ctrl-L and type /mnt)
[04:20] <Warbo> Grisen: Or just use browse :)
[04:20] <ed1t> swap partition is there....but i need to resize my linux partition, coz i still have to make data disc
[04:20] <g0real> ironuckes: hmmm. Post that to the main channel. I'm really a noob in ubuntu. I have done it in other distros, but not this one. So I cannot give you step-by-step
[04:20] <Grisen> New screen with file folder icons
[04:21] <ironuckles> g0real, whats the main channel?
[04:21] <Warbo> Grisen: I assume there is a boot folder in there?
[04:21] <Grisen> Yes
[04:21] <g0real> ironnuckles: never mind, just here
[04:22] <g0real> g0real: h
[04:22] <Warbo> Grisen: Go in it and see if it is empty or full of stuff
[04:22] <ed1t> is there any way i can switch it over? coz i have the ext3 partition made for it but it took the wrong one
[04:22] <Grisen> okay...
[04:22] <Grisen> fullofstuff
[04:22] <maccam94> where is the modules autoload file located?
[04:22] <g0real> i got to go now. See you people later. I'm going to get more familiar with ubuntu so I can help more.
[04:22] <Grisen> sub folder grub
[04:23] <Warbo> Grisen: Good. Is there a vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 and an initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386?
[04:23] <ed1t> xubuntu rox
[04:23] <Grisen> Yes, both
[04:23] <Warbo> ed1t: No, ROX rox :)
[04:23] <ed1t> lol
[04:23] <ed1t> that too
[04:23] <Warbo> (well, actually I don't like it :) )
[04:24] <maccam94> rox vs. e17? anyone?
[04:24] <Warbo> Grisen: Seems like there is everything needed to boot
[04:24] <Frankenstein> hi, i just reinstalled ubuntu breezy, updated it, than upgraded to dapper from a clean start, but now i cant get xmms to play any sound... any idea?
[04:24] <Grisen> Warbo - both are in boot folder
[04:24] <ironuckles> I'm having printing problems in Ubuntu. When I try to set up a printer via the System->Admin->Printers menu, it detects my printer, but doesn't populate the "manufacturer" combobox. I also tried downloading the PPD file for my printer, which worked, but I since disconnected the printer, and when I try to set it up again the exactly same way, it says the PPD file is already instead and errors out.
[04:24] <Grisen> Okay, I'm a bit lost now, so tell me what you've learned... ("so the whole class can benefit")
[04:24] <Warbo> Grisen: press alt-f2 and run "gksudo gedit"
[04:24] <Frankenstein> !sound
[04:24] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:25] <fleeky> is it possible to just update the apt sources for a debian distro to "install" ubuntu?
[04:25] <Grisen> Warbo, will try that command
[04:25] <prophet> can someone help me setp up a static ip
[04:25] <kazukisan> I am trying to get video plugins for Opera, can anyone give me some suggestions?
[04:25] <ed1t> prophet: get dyndns.org
[04:25] <Warbo> Grisen: You don't have a /boot partition, your kernel is called vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 (and your initrd.img is similar), and your / is /dev/hdb1
[04:25] <cntb> Frankenstein: install vlc until u resolve xmms
[04:25] <ed1t> it works pretty good
[04:26] <Frankenstein> cntb, vlc?
[04:26] <Frankenstein> i also dont have any multimeda system button
[04:26] <cntb> vlc is universal player videolan
[04:26] <prophet> what is a static ip
[04:26] <Frankenstein> prophet, a ip that doesnt change
[04:27] <ed1t> the ip that doesnt change
[04:27] <prophet> k
[04:27] <cntb> like your sound card not installed ?
[04:27] <klees> how can VI remember the location of where i last saved?
[04:27] <Grisen> Warbo: in gedit now "unsaved document"
[04:27] <klees> the cursor location
[04:27] <Frankenstein> well i dont want to use vlc.... i want to use xmms... its been used before
[04:27] <Warbo> prophet: An Internet address which doesn't change when you log onto the Net (usually dialup and broadband change every time you connect)
[04:27] <cntb> I like xmms too
[04:27] <ed1t> that u dont have since ur on cable
[04:27] <Kyral> klees: its a commented out option in /etc/vimrc
[04:27] <ironuckles> I'm having printing problems in Ubuntu. When I try to set up a printer via the System->Admin->Printers menu, it detects my printer, but doesn't populate the "manufacturer" combobox. I also tried downloading the PPD file for my printer, which worked, but I since disconnected the printer, and when I try to set it up again the exactly same way, it says the PPD file is already installed and errors out.
[04:27] <Warbo> Grisen: Open up /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:27] <Kyral> copy it to ~/.vimrc and modify to your needs
[04:27] <ed1t> unless u pay some extra per month to get it
[04:27] <klees> Kyral: thx i'll check it out
[04:28] <orbin> Frankenstein: try changing the output plugin to alsa or esound
[04:28] <ed1t> but if u wanna have DNS which points to ur ip address, go to dyndns.org
[04:28] <ed1t> its pretty good
[04:28] <Grisen> Warbo, can we modify this so I can boot to b from a floppy??
[04:28] <Warbo> Grisen: I think so. Just need to make sure GRUB is looking in the right place
[04:28] <Grisen> Okay, lets race
[04:28] <orbin> Frankenstein: if you like xmms, you might want to try beep media player ... sort of like xmms in gtk2
[04:29] <Frankenstein> ive tried that all, ubuntu sees my soundcard and its installed etc... but your missing the point, i want to use xmms not anything else, its worked before
[04:29] <Dattasmoon> is there a way to make ubuntu boot into text only mode? i like the graphics but i don't want it on my server, taking up memory
[04:29] <Warbo> Grisen: Look for a line "# kopt=root=/dev/ssomething ro" and make sure it says "# kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro"
[04:30] <Frankenstein> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog] 
[04:30] <Warbo> Dattasmoon: Get rid of the GDM package
[04:30] <userundefine> Dattasmoon, just install the server version if you don't need X
[04:30] <orbin> Frankenstein: you've changed the output plugin?
[04:30] <Frankenstein> orbin, yes, restared xmms no luck
[04:30] <Grisen> You want me to open /mnt/boot/grub/menu... how do I do that within gedit please?
[04:30] <klees> Kyral: i can't find that line
[04:30] <Frankenstein> im also not getting any sound on bootup
[04:30] <Kyral> klees: lemme look at my vimrc
[04:30] <klees> k
[04:31] <Warbo> Grisen: Go on open, go in Filesystem on the left then go in mnt, then boot, then grub then open menu.lst
[04:31] <Grisen> okay
[04:31] <orbin> Frankenstein: sounds liek you have bigger issues if you don't get system sounds either
[04:31] <Kyral> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:31] <Frankenstein> what i dont understand is that everything worked before, why not now?
[04:32] <Grisen> Warbo: got it
[04:32] <Dattasmoon> warbo, thanks userundefine, i did have the server only  installed under breezy but when i updated to dapper, it put the graphics back on
[04:32] <Kyral> klees: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19533 <== Seems to be the line that does it
[04:32] <Warbo> Grisen: Check the line I mentioned above
[04:33] <Grisen> I have menu.1st open-- what am I looking for (feel like a newborn here)
[04:33] <Warbo> Grisen: Then check the line "# groot=(hdsomething,something)" and make sure it says "# groot=(hd1,0)"
[04:34] <Grisen> Yes, # groot=(hd1,0)
[04:35] <Warbo> Grisen: OK, check "# kopt=root=/dev/ssomething ro" and make sure it says "# kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro"
[04:35] <klees> Kyral: do i need the last line:    augroup END
[04:35] <Kyral> klees: I think so
[04:35] <DanaG> Okay, I just installed 6.06 LTS.
[04:36] <DanaG> I'm trying to figure out how to get an SMP kernel without recompiling.
[04:36] <Grisen> Exactly it
[04:36] <tritium> DanaG: install one from the repos
[04:36] <Warbo> Grisen: Then check the actual boot entries near the bottom. Make sure they use those options above (eg. root (hd1,0), kernel has "root=/dev/hdb1" and stuff)
[04:37] <dauoalagio> can someone please help me with ndiswrappers??
[04:37] <klees> Kyral: that looked like it worked thx again
[04:37] <Madpilot> DanaG, AFAIK the default kernel in Ubuntu has SMP compiled into it...
[04:38] <TimeKiller> I'm running a web server on one machine. I want to be able to use samba to upload files to it but i don't want to chmod 777 the docroot directory. What can i do? :)
[04:38] <spiderworm> !mp3
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <DanaG> If I run "sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo", it only lists one.
[04:38] <erus`> how do i get r300?
[04:38] <ryanakca> DanaG: run:    dmesg | grep SMP
[04:39] <erus`> is it this Xservergl thing in synaptic?
[04:39] <DanaG> aah, okay.
[04:39] <ryanakca> DanaG: that's all I can help you with... and that's not a lot
[04:39] <DanaG> That saves me some time.
[04:39] <Warbo> !tell erus` about xgl
[04:39] <Grisen> Warbo, those are there next to "root" and "kernel"
[04:39] <DanaG> I see Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration.
[04:40] <Warbo> Grisen: It seems everything is OK. Do you have a spare floppy disc?
[04:40] <Grisen> Three sets of info, including one for mem test and one for recovery
[04:40] <Grisen> Yes I have a floppy
[04:40] <Warbo> Grisen: Yes, those are there by defualt
[04:40] <Grisen> Might have some unneeded files on it
[04:40] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: what wifi card do you have?
[04:40] <TimeKiller> Isn't it bad practice to chmod 777 the document root of a web server?
[04:40] <Warbo> Grisen: Put in the floppy, save and exit the file and in a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) run "sudo grub-install /dev/fd0"
[04:41] <rait> Hi
[04:41] <ro_claus> TimeKilller .it is ;)
[04:41] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: broadcom 4311
[04:41] <Grisen> Does the floppy need to be formatted or erased?
[04:41] <rait> can anyone help me retrieve my login ?
[04:41] <ro_claus> Grisen..yea..
[04:41] <TimeKiller> Then how can i open it up to be able to upload with samba? :P
[04:41] <Warbo> Grisen: I don;t think so, GRUB lives in it's MBR
[04:41] <orbin> what are the linux-*-smp packages for then?
[04:41] <Warbo> (well, boot sector)
[04:41] <Artan1s> What is linux?
[04:41] <Artan1s> rofl
[04:42] <slid3r> anyone have issue gettin xmms to play a .pls file after install on ubuntu?
[04:42] <TimeKiller> linux = something that makes toast or something
[04:42] <Warbo> !tell Artan1s about linux
[04:42] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: it is installed correctly, and i have it in wlan0, but it wont let me set essid
[04:42] <ro_claus> orbin... for multi processor machines
[04:42] <Strykyr> what is a good text editor for ubuntu that is weasy to get my hands on
[04:42] <Strykyr> ?
[04:42] <TimeKiller> gedit is decent
[04:42] <Warbo> slid3r: .pls = playlist?
[04:42] <Strykyr> Thank You
[04:42] <TimeKiller> it's built in
[04:42] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: is it enabled?
[04:42] <slid3r> correct as in from http://www.di.fm
[04:42] <orbin> ro_claus: why would you need them if the default apparently supports smp?
[04:42] <TimeKiller> to ubuntu at least
[04:43] <slid3r> Warbo text editor for what purpose?
[04:43] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yep it's active
[04:43] <slid3r> I mean
[04:43] <Warbo> slid3r: Make sure it doesn't use \ (as in C:\folder\file.mp3) or change XMMS preferences to use \ as well as /
[04:43] <slid3r> theres the one already installed
[04:43] <ro_claus> orbin..where'd you find them?
[04:43] <slid3r> but for html and php and such theres bluefisch
[04:43] <slid3r> blufish*
[04:43] <ShadowGunner> anyone know if ndiswrapper is on ubuntu livecd?
[04:43] <orbin> ro_claus: them being what?
[04:44] <ro_claus> orbin..this smp files
[04:44] <slid3r> Warbo, well the pls is a url
[04:44] <Warbo> slid3r: OK then
[04:44] <Warbo> slid3r: It goes without saying all of that MP3 restricted stuff.....
[04:45] <HellDragon> :O
[04:45] <orbin> ro_claus: the smp metapackages?  they're available in the repos.
[04:45] <slid3r> well I know it plays on xmms I have done it a million times
[04:45] <Grisen> Warbo "could not find device  for /boot: Not found or not a block device  (should I look for another floppy??)
[04:45] <erus`> "E: xorg-driver-fglrx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2" when trying to remove fglrx driver
[04:45] <rait> i have recently been having trouble with my ubuntu partition and i have just recently been able to get back on it but now i have forgotten my login any way to retrieve it ?
[04:45] <slid3r> tbu if I put into play >> location >> http://www.di.fm/mp3/chillout.pls
[04:45] <ro_claus> orbin...they are prepackaged then for using on SMP machines
[04:45] <slid3r> it should fire the stream right up
[04:45] <Warbo> Grisen: Hmm, that's weird.
[04:45] <Grisen> Maybe not formatted
[04:45] <PapaMidnight> so I'm trying to upgrade my flash player, and everything is running fine until it tells me to remove the  xpti.dat fyle from my firefox components directory, but I'm not able to get there.  Any help?
[04:46] <PapaMidnight> file**
[04:46] <Warbo> Grisen: I don't think it actually matters
[04:46] <Grisen> Did it find a problem with writing to the floppy or a problem with  /boot?
[04:46] <Warbo> Grisen: Try formatting it, making a folder "boot" on it, then "grub" in there and wait a second...
[04:46] <rait> anyone ?
[04:47] <Grisen> Let me try another diskette (?)
[04:47] <TimeKiller> PapaMidnight: is it in your .firefox directory?
[04:47] <Warbo> Grisen: Try copying across as much of the contents of /mnt/boot/grub as you can (stage files mainly)
[04:47] <Grisen> didnt like that one either-- same message
[04:48] <len> Hi, how do I add screen resolution in my Ubuntu without having to edit xorg.conf???
[04:48] <TimeKiller> PapaMidnight: open up nautilus and navigate to your desktop. then press control h that will show hidden directories and you should be able to get to it there.
[04:48] <sethk> len, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver will edit xorg.conf for you
[04:48] <Grisen> Let's assume these (older) diskettes have some bad sectors or are not formatted.  How to format from Ubuntu?
[04:48] <sethk> len, there is no way to add resolutions without something, either you or a program, editing xorg.conf
[04:49] <Warbo> Grisen: Format the floppy, mount it (like you did with the HD) make a folder "boot", and try copying /mnt/boot/grub into there
[04:49] <Warbo> Grisen: Applications>System Tools>Floppy Formatter?
[04:49] <Warbo> Grisen: Or Sys>Admin>Disks?
[04:49] <len> sethk: I mean a program doing it for me
[04:49] <Grisen> Tell me how to format please, I speak M$oft
[04:49] <sethk> len, you can't add a resolution without modifying xorg.conf
[04:49] <Grisen> See it
[04:49] <sethk> Grisen, fdformat /dev/fd0
[04:50] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: try this at the command line as su: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed && iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:50] <len> sethk: I know that, I mean a program do it for me... editing for me
[04:50] <klees> any idea y sudo apt-get upgrade  kept Totem back??
[04:50] <len> sethk: thx for the tip i'll try now
[04:50] <Grisen> Applications menu doesnt have system tools
[04:50] <sethk> len    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <Warbo> klees: Try dist-upgrade
[04:50] <klees> Warbo: that also keeps it
[04:51] <sethk> len, I think I reversed the xserver and xorg the first time.  the one I just pasted is correct.
[04:51] <maccam94_> dauoalagio:  then use that info to do iwconfig wlan0 essid nameofrouter
[04:51] <orbin> len: which IMO is more complex than adding a 8 or so characters in a text file
[04:51] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: then run dhclient wlan0
[04:51] <len> sethk: kk I'll check now... I'm just making a back-up of my xorg.conf
[04:51] <klees> what's the difference between  upgrade and dist-upgrade ??
[04:51] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: came up with no results. so i have no info for the router
[04:51] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: hm
[04:52] <Warbo> klees: upgrade only upgrades your installed packages. dist-upgrade also removes or installs new/old ones
[04:52] <dauoalagio> maccam94_:..
[04:52] <maccam94_> and you're sure your wifi card is up and your wireless router is on?
[04:52] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yes
[04:52] <Grisen> Formatting with FDformat command
[04:52] <klees> Warbo: k....  dist-ugrade still keeps Totem =\
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> !bugs
[04:52] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <len> orbin: IMO?
[04:52] <Warbo> klees: (so totem-gstreamer would need to install all of the newer gstreamer0.10 packages. upgrade wouldn't get them but dist-upgrade would)
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> !bugzilla
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about bugzilla - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <UbuntuJulez> does beep media player's equalizer not work in ubuntu?
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> !testopia
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about testopia - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: pastebin the output from ifconfig
[04:52] <UbuntuJulez> !you
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about you - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> anyone using testopia here?
[04:52] <Grisen> And all that time WASTED on DOS
[04:52] <Madpilot> !bugs
[04:52] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: i can;t its on the laptop with no internet
[04:53] <maccam94_> ah ok
[04:53] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: wait i have an idea
[04:53] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: i did ifconfig and it is coming us as wlan0 = ethernet
[04:53] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: well do you see any errors related to the driver in the output...?
[04:53] <maccam94_> ah
[04:53] <maccam94_> well that would be a problem
[04:53] <cowmilk> in terminal how do i run two cammands in sequence? what symbol do i put between the 2 commands?
[04:54] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yes how can i fix?
[04:54] <userundefine> cowmilk, &&
[04:54] <cowmilk> user
[04:54] <cowmilk> thank
[04:54] <cowmilk> userundefine:
[04:54] <cowmilk> thanks
[04:54] <userundefine> got it
[04:54] <Warbo> Grisen: When it is done run "sudo mkdir /grubfloppy && sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy && sudo mkdir /grubfloppy/boot && sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /grubfloppy/boot"
[04:54] <argunda> will ubuntu run ok in my laptop which has 128mb ram?
[04:54] <bruenig> you can also put a ; in between them
[04:54] <mister_roboto> cowmilk, use && if you want to run the second only when the first succeeds. if you wanna run the second regardless whether the first command succeeds, use ;
[04:55] <sethk> argunda, a bit tight, perhaps.  use one of the low overhead window managers, neither gnome nor kde
[04:55] <Grisen> Formatted fine.  Did sudo grib-install /dev/fd0 from command line.  Returned "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:55] <cowmilk> what's the proper way of adding opera (browser) into my sysntem?
[04:55] <Warbo> Grisen: Use that huge command I posted above
[04:55] <Grisen> Okay...
[04:55] <userundefine> cowmilk, I'm pretty sure opera is in one of the repositories.  apt-get install it
[04:56] <cowmilk> userundefine: do i have ta add a repo to my sources list?
[04:56] <sethk> Grisen, you have to mount the floppy and copy the /boot directory to it
[04:56] <bruenig> !info opera
[04:56] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in dapper
[04:56] <Warbo> sethk: Not the whole /boot folder, since that includes kernels and initrd images which won't fit
[04:56] <Madpilot> !opera
[04:56] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[04:56] <Warbo> sethk: Just the grub stages
[04:56] <sethk> Warbo, that's true
[04:56] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: um, have you looked through dmesg?
[04:57] <sethk> Warbo, /boot/grub, my mistake
[04:57] <cowmilk> Madpilot: i'm in xubuntu. is it the same way to add programs?
[04:57] <len> sethk: Do u think I sould enable the framebuffer?
[04:57] <sethk> len, no
[04:57] <Madpilot> cowmilk, I think so,  yes
[04:57] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: umm no
[04:57] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: skim through it, see if it says anything bad about the ndiswrappers and/or the driver
[04:57] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: okay one second
[04:58] <Warbo> Grisen: By the way, you can select the command and middle click on a terminal to copy/paste it
[04:58] <Warbo> (left+right = middle as well)
[04:58] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yes
[04:58] <Dawnshadow> I installed a package (Dgen) through Synapse and it's not showing up in the applications menu. Any idea where I can find it to make my own link to it?
[04:59] <Taylor_> how well would ubuntu run on a 800MHz P3 with 512MB PC100 RAM? 11MB video
[04:59] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, dgen is a command line program
[04:59] <Warbo> Taylor_: Xubuntu would run well. Ubuntu may be a little sluggish, but should be OK
[04:59] <TimeKiller> it runs fine on a p3 450 mhz with 192 megs of ram
[04:59] <kana> running well here
[04:59] <Dawnshadow> Ok... *tries to find online directions on how to run it*
[04:59] <Taylor_> Xubuntu live CD took FOREVER to boot up on my machine, and ran extrememly slow
[04:59] <kana> Taylor_: amd 1 GHz 340MB ram
[05:00] <len> sethk: What's the difference between ImPS/2 ExplorerPS/2
[05:00] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, if you are trying to load a particular rom just open a terminal and type 'dgen /path/to/whatever the rom is
[05:00] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: errors?
[05:00] <TimeKiller> Tayler: because it's a CD.
[05:00] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: can we set up a private chat
[05:00] <maccam94_> sure
[05:00] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: how
[05:00] <TimeKiller> CD transfer rate isn't as high as a Hard drive
[05:00] <Taylor_> TimeKiller: even other distros with KDE have ran better than this though
[05:00] <Dawnshadow> Thank you. ^^
[05:00] <kana> Taylor_: you might consider light wm such as fluxbox if you look for speed
[05:00] <sethk> len, I've only used imps/2, which works well for my usb wheel mouse
[05:00] <sethk> len, I'm not sure which device the other is for.
[05:00] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, but you better make sure you own the cartridge version of that ROM, else it is illegal ;D
[05:01] <len> sethk: I'll use same, I also got a usb wheel mouse
[05:01] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: i sent you a pm
[05:02] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: no you didn't
[05:02] <phargle> ive only got an am
[05:02] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: /msg me
[05:02] <Grisen> Warbo:  Did the long command line, diskette drive hummed & clicked, then Returned: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:03] <Warbo> Grisen: Hmm "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy -t vfat" maybe
[05:03] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: /msg maccam94_ hi
[05:03] <dauoalagio> what that's what i said
[05:03] <jackinthebox> how do i make icons and items disappear on a gnome desktop?
[05:03] <Grisen> Warbo: type just that portion or substitute for part of the longer command?
[05:04] <Warbo> Grisen: Just try that on it's own
[05:04] <Grisen> Ok
[05:04] <bruenig> jackinthebox, what do you mean disappear?
[05:04] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: ok weird, we aren't getting each other's pm's somehow
[05:04] <maccam94_> er
[05:04] <maccam94_> maybe i'm not authed
[05:04] <maccam94_> hmmm
[05:04] <jackinthebox> well i made a program to ping a server, but the script is on the desktop and i want to make it invisible
[05:04] <len> sethk: Thx, i'll reboot X now, brb (maybe, hope so)
[05:05] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: do you have aim/yahoo/msn or something
[05:05] <maccam94> yeah
[05:05] <Warbo> jackinthebox: Make a text file called ".hidden" on the desktop, and put the filename you want hidden in there
[05:05] <Dawnshadow> Hey, it works! ^^ Now I have to figure out what to type to configure the keys...
[05:05] <orbin> jackinthebox: perhaps the desktop folder is not he best place to put it then
[05:05] <slid3r> dumber question tehn my first ... when I click a file o firefox ... and select "open with" and then other ... if I wanted to use XMMS ... where would I tell it to find the app?
[05:06] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, If you figure that out, please tell me
[05:06] <jackinthebox> warbo: make a text file and name it .hidden and just place that file in the file named .hidden?
[05:06] <Warbo> slid3r: /usr/bin/xmms
[05:06] <slid3r> really
[05:06] <slid3r> thats easy
[05:06] <slid3r> thanks vm
[05:06] <maccam94> dauoalagio: im me at the same nick as this
[05:06] <d> can i get some noob help with installing ubuntu?
[05:06] <bruenig> d, what is the problem
[05:06] <Warbo> jackinthebox: If the script is called "ping-script" then do "echo "ping-script" > ~/Desktop/.hidden
[05:06] <grb> hi, I'm using vpnc... everything great, except that I can't find how to set 'keepalive'... anybody knows how?
[05:06] <Warbo> "
[05:07] <J2D2> Is there somewhere other than sourceomatic i can get the dapperdrake sources.list because that one , when i did apt-get update it said some of them were broken
[05:07] <d> i have the desktop Cd (64 bit) when i insert the cd the boot menu comes up
[05:07] <orbin> slid3r: yeah, most executables are in /usr/bin
[05:07] <jackinthebox> warbo:ok, thnx a mil! btw, know anything about kmplayer and why it doesnt play mkv files well?
[05:07] <Grisen> warbo: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, missing codepage or other error"
[05:07] <turing> any suggestions for 2-cpu panel widgets?
[05:07] <slid3r> sweeeeeeet
[05:08] <bruenig> d, yes...?
[05:08] <slid3r> thank you vm it works oh glory
[05:08] <Warbo> jackinthebox: Need some codecs in /usr/lib/codecs maybe? I don;t use KDE much
[05:08] <d> i select install/play and then it starts loading, when I am done it takes me to a prompt...there is no install, no interface...
[05:08] <Warbo> Grisen: Try running "dmesg | tail" and pastebin it
[05:08] <jackinthebox> Warbo: i have those codecs, it just comes out all messed up and stuff
[05:08] <reck> HELP PLEASE- pvt-me ubuntu dont boot
[05:09] <Grisen> Okay looking for that tall slash on my kboard-- hmm, dont see it...
[05:09] <bruenig> d, first the obvious, you do have a 64 bit processer right?
[05:09] <turing> grisen, the |  ?
[05:09] <Grisen> Yes
[05:09] <Warbo> Grisen: It is above \ for me (UK keyboard)
[05:09] <turing> is it above your enter key?
[05:09] <Grisen> Yessir it is
[05:09] <turing> as the shift option for \ ?
[05:10] <J2D2> Is there somewhere other than sourceomatic i can get the dapperdrake sources.list because that one , when i did apt-get update it said some of them were broken
[05:10] <d> amd dual core 4200
[05:10] <Warbo> Grisen: Select the text in GAIM, then middle click in the terminal
[05:10] <d> so yes
[05:10] <bruenig> d, try 'startx'
[05:10] <d> ah, so that is the syntax. i couldnt remember from using 5.04
[05:11] <cowmilk> a "sudo apt-get" command is currently running. is there a way for me to add another "sudo apt-get" command now so that after the 1st command is done, this new cohmmand will be done?
[05:11] <d> can i install from inside X?
[05:11] <d> i would assume that is a yes
[05:11] <bruenig> d, yes
[05:11] <VitaminG> cowmilk: sudo apt-get && next command
[05:11] <bruenig> there is a install button on the desktop
[05:11] <bruenig> an*
[05:11] <Madpilot> J2D2, the auto-source web thing should give you a good sources.list, but you can try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674 too
[05:11] <Grisen> Warbo, okay friend, how do I IRC from within the live cd?
[05:11] <turing> I've got a Pentium D and have the linux-686-smp kernel running.  I see 2 cpus in top now.  What panel gizmo can I use to display both cpu's?
[05:11] <cowmilk> VitaminG: but i didn't do that originally, so what can i do now?
[05:12] <d> ok, thanks bruenig. im going to give it a shot....ill be back otherwise
[05:12] <QMario> Bye everyone!!! :)
[05:12] <d> you help is much appreciated
[05:12] <bruenig> d, wait
[05:12] <sally2> what's the command to upgrade the kernel?
[05:12] <d> yeah?
[05:12] <VitaminG> cowmilk: nothing that I know of.
[05:13] <Warbo> Grisen: Applications>Internet>Gaim
[05:13] <Grisen> Okay...
[05:13] <bruenig> d, nevermind, I was wondering if it you could, since the install is on the desktop actually start it via the command prompt as in at the prompt, if startx doesn't work do something like /Desktop/Install, but I kind of doubt it since it is graphical
[05:13] <VitaminG> sally2: you need to know what the new kernel name is, and install it just like a program
[05:13] <ironclad_> hey, open question.  I have an old PPC powerbookg3 (orginal wallstreet model)  and I am having trouble booting ubuntu for powerpc anyone have a solution
[05:13] <sally2> i see
[05:13] <sally2> thanks vitaminG
[05:14] <cowmilk> how come when i ran "sudo apt-get install opera", the terminal told me to put the xubuntu cd instide the cd drive?
[05:14] <d> i will try that if start x does not work, thanks
[05:14] <Nuked> because its one of your sources
[05:14] <bruenig> Desktop/Install*
[05:14] <bruenig> not the initial slash
[05:14] <turing> ironclad, if I'm not mistaken you need to use an alternative bootloader for the wall street b/c it is an "Old World Rom Mac"
[05:14] <d> ok
[05:14] <turing> iron: for instance bootx
[05:14] <ironclad_> where can I get that then?
[05:15] <ironclad_> is it a hard thing to get my hands on?
[05:15] <turing> http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/bootx/
[05:15] <turing> iron, you might also look into yaboot which it talks about on that page
[05:15] <ironclad_> I thought it might be classified as a old world mac
[05:16] <turing> i, that machine is definitely an old world mac
[05:16] <ironclad_> yeah, it is showing its age too
[05:16] <ironclad_> hoping unbuntu will expand its life some
[05:17] <grb> hi, how do you set keepalive for vpnc? I tried keepalive 10 120 in default.conf but it gave me an error
[05:17] <turing> i, I've got one myself, I got gentoo on it, but didn't get anything useful compiled before I got pulled to other projects
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <Warbo> I have a conundrum. How could I install Linux/BSD/whatever on a laptop which has no floppy or CDROM, no network and a blank HD. I was thinking of removing the HD and installing through another computer, but the only computer I have which can read 2.5" drives is an A1200
[05:18] <grb> What?
[05:18] <dibblego> why does Skype not use my Logitech USB headset for sound output, but XMMS does?
[05:18] <ironclad_> turing, TY I will look into it, I just figured there was something that I over looked thanks
[05:18] <AltF4> PopCap.com has a virus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:18] <turing> open question: I've got a pentium D and top's now showing 2 cpus w/ the smp kernel.  What cpu monitering app can I use to show the cpu loads seperately?
[05:18] <sally2> what would be the command to install the kernel 2.6.17?
[05:18] <turing> warbo, how'd you get yourself in that situation?
[05:18] <grb> error: vpnc: warning: unknown configuration directive in /etc/vpnc/default.conf at line 14 (sorry)
[05:19] <Warbo> turing: I bought a crappy laptop :)
[05:19] <AltF4> Screenshot http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/4095/1187741445999148074_rs.jpg
[05:19] <turing> warbo, I suppose you don't have any USB either?
[05:19] <Warbo> turing: It has USB, but it won't boot it
[05:19] <KonFuZed> oh my god GAIM is so annoying
[05:20] <turing> warbo, the 2.5" to 3.5" adaptors are pretty cheap if you get 'em online or from the right store
[05:20] <KonFuZed> why why why has GAIM been foisted upon us after x-chat was so brilliant
[05:20] <h3h_timo> turing, i have a question about i686
[05:20] <turing> h3h, sure
[05:20] <Grisen> Warbo: Gaim brings up a window called freenode-connect and is calling me Grise1, but I don't see that screen name in the list, so don't believe I'm connecting.  Something I don't get about Gaim (you are patient !)
[05:20] <Warbo> turing: I have a 3.5" to 2.5" adapter. I may plug a bigger HD into the laptop just to see if it boots :)
[05:21] <phargle> that means pig
[05:21] <Madpilot> KonFuZed, xchat is still available - install it from the universe repo
[05:21] <phargle> in norwegian
[05:21] <Warbo> Grisen: You can't log in twice under the same name
[05:22] <h3h_timo> turing, i have a centrino duo processor, should i install the i686 kernel with the smp kernel or just keep the regular i686 kernel??
[05:22] <Grisen> Warbo, so it's calling me Grise1, but I don't see that name logging in-- try again with another name?
[05:22] <turing> warbo, wacky idea, dd a bootable linux iso to the internal hd?  I've had a long day there may be many reasons that's stupid to try and why it won't work...but I can't think of any at the moment
[05:22] <dibblego> where is that dialog for configuring sound inputs and outputs?
[05:22] <Warbo> Grisen: Have you joined the #ubuntu room in GAIM?
[05:22] <KonFuZed> gaim is procedurally broken
[05:22] <cowmilk>  i've installed opera via apt-get. but opera comes out with weekly builds. is it okay to get them?
[05:22] <tritium> KonFuZed: huh?
[05:22] <turing> h3h, based upon what I was reading on the forums and my previous experience with dual-core cpus, smp is what you want
[05:22] <KonFuZed> once signe on to even one server then you can not sign on to any others
[05:22] <KonFuZed> what is that crap
[05:23] <h3h_timo> turing, so, how do i install that
[05:23] <turing> h3h, you can always just choose the old one from grub if it doesn't work well
[05:23] <phargle> h3h_timo: install outta figure it out for you, you can check with uname -a
[05:23] <KonFuZed> now that Im on this channel how is one supposed to join say another irc server such as kaffiene.net so that I can join #nubuntu
[05:24] <Warbo> turing: I was thinking that if I had a dd type command (for dumping data) then I could boot my A1200 with the drive inside off a Workbench floppy, and have a Linux system on a CD which I could dump to the drive. However, I don't have any Workbench floppies with CDROM drivers, and I don't know of any raw data moving commands on Amiga (but they must exist)
[05:24] <fgalvez> hola
[05:24] <turing> h3h, there's a great forum post I was just reading...
[05:24] <phargle> or you could reasily write one
[05:24] <h3h_timo> phargle, more details please
[05:25] <fgalvez> alguien habla espaol aqui.?
[05:25] <h3h_timo> turing, link??
[05:25] <KonFuZed> so really how do I join kaffiene.net #nubuntu
[05:25] <Warbo> turing: I was just throwing it out there, you know, in case somebody knows of a magnetic gun which beams Linux onto hard drives or something :)
[05:25] <turing> warbo, what communication methods does this laptop HAVE?  parallel?
[05:25] <turing> h3h, looking
[05:25] <KonFuZed> one has to do the little sign on procedure right
[05:25] <Warbo> turing: Modem, Parallel, Serial, USB
[05:25] <turing> warb, I've got one of those guns, but I'm holding onto it tightly :)
[05:26] <KonFuZed> but it is not available any where to do that
[05:26] <Warbo> turing: It has a bigass docking station which has Ethernet, but I don't have a power cable for it
[05:26] <roe> any idea how to get direct rendering working
[05:26] <h3h_timo> lol u guys are the best, during the day i never get responses, but nighttime is sweet, all the genius's are on
[05:26] <turing> h3h, found it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917&highlight=kernel+Pentium
[05:26] <userundefine> h3h_timo, correct
[05:26] <VitaminG> turing: I'll give you $1,000,000 for it.
[05:26] <h3h_timo> userundefine, lol true eh?
[05:26] <Grisen> Warbo, okay friend, so I put in irc.ubuntu.com and call myself Grisen1.  Then Freenode Connect comes up and says "Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to grisen1) from freenode connect.  Then I type #ubuntu and (nothing happens ??)
[05:26] <rub> i am connected in one private network called megacable with this provider i am surfing in the web, is there one way to NAT it ?, i am considering to connect Office (internet) house (megacable)
[05:26] <liquidten2> h3h_timo:  The only times I am online are usually 11PM and later >_>
[05:26] <VitaminG> just imagine the uses.
[05:27] <Warbo> Grisen: Type "/join #ubuntu"
[05:27] <Grisen> Ok
[05:27] <turing> vitamin, it's delicate and will take 6 months to ship safely
[05:27] <turing> just wire the money to my western union
[05:27] <h3h_timo> liquidten2, yeah, us nighttime ubuntuans kick ass
[05:27] <VitaminG> turing. ouch.
[05:27] <Grisen1> Hey Hey Hey!
[05:27] <VitaminG> turing: DON'T ship it UPS.
[05:28] <Warbo> turing: If I hold my laptop up, could you turn up the juice and try it from where you are?
[05:28] <Warbo> Grisen1: Hello
[05:28] <h3h_timo> turing, lol i just now saw the link, thanks
[05:28] <eternaljoy> I did upgrade and it downloaded 20mb of files but I quit it before it finished!  How can I get these files to now install from the /var/apt/archive folder?
[05:28] <turing> warbo, know anyone w/ a parallel port zip?
[05:28] <Grisen1> Sorry, know this is bad protocol, but here it comes:
[05:28] <Warbo> turing: Nope
[05:28] <Grisen1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | tail
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.103000]  floppy0: data CRC error: track 1, head 1, sector 16, size 2
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.103000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 69
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.103000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 8
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.701000]  floppy0: data CRC error: track 1, head 1, sector 16, size 2
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.900000]  floppy0: data CRC error: track 1, head 1, sector 16, size 2
[05:28] <ardy> hlp
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.900000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 69
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.900000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 8
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299042.214000]  SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on fd0
[05:29] <Grisen1> [4299341.981000]  FAT: invalid media value (0xf6)
[05:29] <Grisen1> [4299341.981000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0.
[05:29] <Grisen1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:29] <userundefine> !pastebin
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:29] <ardy> help every times I go to yahoo I cannot get the page
[05:29] <lecaros> !pastebin Grisen1
[05:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebin Grisen1 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:29] <cowmilk2> how do i see how much hard drive space i have free?
[05:29] <Warbo> Grisen1: 1) use pastebin, 2) looks like a knackered floppy
[05:29] <tritium> Grisen1: please use pastebin :(
[05:29] <turing> warb, if I turned up the juice I might accidentally reformat every hard drive between us w/ ubuntu...
[05:29] <turing> cow  df -h
[05:29] <userundefine> cowmilk2, "df -h"
[05:29] <ardy> even ubuntuforum site I cannot get the page
[05:29] <KonFuZed> canany one tell me how to join a second server in GAIM - please
[05:29] <lecaros> cowmilk2 on shell or terminal df -h
[05:29] <ardy> is ubuntuforum site down?
[05:30] <rub> i am connected in one private network called megacable with this provider i am surfing in the web, is there one way to NAT it ?, i am considering to connect Office (internet) house (megacable)
[05:30] <userundefine> ardy, works for me
[05:30] <Phoul> hello
[05:30] <turing> konfuzed, click on buddy list, hit ctrl-a  accounts box will pop up, click add
[05:30] <userundefine> Hello Phoul
[05:30] <Phoul> My friend is installing ubuntu with the desktop install, His screen randomly went black
[05:30] <Phoul> But he still has a mouse
[05:30] <Phoul> Whats goin on?
[05:30] <eternaljoy> Warbo: any ideas?
[05:31] <liquidten2> Phoul:  What do you mean by "screen went black"?
[05:31] <turing> open question, I've got a pentium D, top shows 2 cpus, I want a load monitor for the panel that shows both cpus, anyone got suggestions?
[05:31] <h3h_timo> oh hey, turing, because ive been so pumped about this, i want to show it too ya... go to this link  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136&daysprune=-1&order=desc&sort=views i made that tut a while ago, while i was still a newbie, and its the most visited post in networking on the forums!!! arent you proud of me??
[05:31] <Phoul> Umm the screen is black
[05:31] <Phoul> with a mouse
[05:31] <ardy> userundefine, hmm... why I alawys get my own localhost web page?
[05:31] <Phoul> Thats what i mean
[05:31] <VitaminG> phoul: did the monitor connection come loose?
[05:31] <Warbo> eternaljoy: About what?
[05:31] <Phoul> there would be no mouse
[05:31] <cowmilk2> how do i install jpilot?
[05:31] <Grisen1> I'll faithfully use pastebin when I know (crawl then walk)  :-)
[05:31] <userundefine> ardy, not sure,
[05:31] <VitaminG> yeah, I got that just as I pressed enter
[05:32] <Phoul> kk
[05:32] <ardy> when I try to go to ubuntuforum.org I always redirected to my localhost page
[05:32] <Phoul> Well what should he do
[05:32] <Phoul> im on the phone with him
[05:32] <Red_Drag0n> question for the techs...  is there anyway i can create a raid with ubuntu 6.06 then install onto that raid?
[05:32] <Grisen1> Warbo:  so I format this other floppy-- can you give me the command line again please?
[05:32] <ardy> anybody know how to troubleshoot my problem
[05:32] <Warbo> Grisen1: "sudo fdformat /dev/fd0"
[05:32] <VitaminG> phoul: i used to have that problem on a power mac. turned out the graphics were fried. doubt that's the case with you, though.
[05:33] <eternaljoy> Warbo: LOL! go back to sleep ;)
[05:33] <Grisen1> Thanks
[05:33] <liquidten2> ardy:  Are your nameservers set properly?
[05:33] <liquidten2> ardy:  In /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:33] <Phoul> anyone who actually has a idea?
[05:33] <DanaG> !audacity
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <typhoid> Hail!
[05:33] <VitaminG> sorry
[05:33] <ardy> liquidten2, yes I have it correctly
[05:33] <d> brunig, you still there?
[05:33] <DanaG> !audacious
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacious - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <liquidten2> ardy:  What about /etc/hosts?
[05:33] <DanaG> !dhcp
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about dhcp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <ardy> before it working fine
[05:33] <Warbo> eternaljoy: Installing apckages without apt? "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[05:33] <DanaG> Aargh, my DHCP client isn't working.
[05:34] <VitaminG> !DanaG
[05:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about DanaG - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:34] <ardy> liquidten2, ok i check again
[05:34] <Phoul> Anyone? Cmon guys he kinda needs to get this up
[05:34] <tritium> !msgthebot
[05:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:34] <Phoul> because without this he cant even boot windows
[05:34] <turing> danag, what's up w/ your dhcp client?
[05:34] <DanaG> In SuSE, I had to check "Always Request Broadcast Response".
[05:34] <d> can anyone help with install problems
[05:34] <typhoid> soo..   can any of you recommend for me a nice mp3 player for ubuntu?  totem does not seem to  want to play mp3 files...
[05:34] <DanaG> In Ubuntu, I can't figure out how to make the same setting.
[05:34] <VitaminG> d: what's up now?
[05:35] <tritium> !mp3 > typhoid
[05:35] <DanaG> Also, is there a nice gnome equivalent of Amarok?
[05:35] <turing> typhoid, xmms?
[05:35] <d> fatal server error: screens not found.... i get this when input startx
[05:35] <Phoul> DanaG, just use xmms or somethin
[05:35] <liquidten2> DanaG:  Rhythmbox!  I personally prefer it too.
[05:35] <tritium> DanaG: you may have to edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:35] <bimberi> cowmilk2: Applications -> Add/Remove, make sure "Show unsupported applications" is checked, search for jpilot, select, click Apply
[05:35] <shawnr_> tritium, no way
[05:35] <Phoul> d wrong driver then
[05:35] <VitaminG> xmms is great.
[05:35] <Phoul> anyways
[05:35] <tritium> shawnr_: no way what?
[05:35] <shawnr_> tritium, in no way is that any where near amarok
[05:35] <Phoul> Anyone know how to fix my friends problems?
[05:35] <typhoid> oi!  i'm getting conflicting responses!
[05:35] <Warbo> DanaG: Banshee, Rhythmbox and Listen are GTK based media players
[05:35] <rixth> aMSN is written in TCL/TK. The fonts look TERRIBLE (really jagged). How can I fix this?
[05:35] <Phoul> use MPD
[05:35] <tritium> shawnr_: no, for her dhcp problem, dude
[05:35] <cowmilk2> bimberi: thank you. how do i do that via terminal?
[05:35] <Phoul> It pwns the hell outta amarok
[05:35] <typhoid> !mp3, xmms...  i certainly don't want command line player heh..
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp3, xmms...  i certainly don't want command line player heh.. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:35] <shawnr_> tritium, oh lol
[05:36] <rixth> DanaG, Banshee is like an inferior version of amarok
[05:36] <rixth> Er, inferior version of rhythmbox
[05:36] <liquidten2> Phoul:  There is no real way to diagnose the problem with the information you gave.  As far as I know right now, his screensaver might have come on or something.
[05:36] <turing> !help
[05:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:36] <liquidten2> Rhythmbox=Amarok>Banshee
[05:36] <Phoul> liquidten2, dude
[05:36] <Phoul> The screen went *black*
[05:36] <Phoul> He has a mouse
[05:36] <tritium> !enter
[05:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:36] <Red_Drag0n> raid install help?????
[05:36] <turing> !linux
[05:36] <eternaljoy> bimberi: hello!!!! :)
[05:36] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[05:36] <Warbo> rixth: At least you don't have to maually drag XMs into the playlist, then get "This is not part of your collection" in Banshee :)
[05:36] <Grisen1> Warbo: mkdir: cannot create directory `/grubfloppy': File exists
[05:36] <Phoul> He cant see anything but the mouse. what more do you need
[05:36] <eternaljoy> bimberi: ltns
[05:36] <bimberi> cowmilk2: ensure the universe repository is enabled, 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get install jpilot'
[05:36] <shawnr_> DanaG, there is nothing stopping you from installing amarok. after going through a million gnome music players. i went back to amarok. it owns all
[05:36] <liquidten2> Phoul:  So he has a mouse pointer  (probably an "X" right?) and a black screen.
[05:36] <Warbo> Grisen1: Of course it does
[05:36] <VitaminG> xmms>rhythmbox
[05:36] <mitcheloc> how can i install flash for firefox? :)
[05:37] <dibblego> how can I run skype and other applications that use sound together?
[05:37] <Phoul> liquidten2, its a real pointer
[05:37] <Warbo> Grisen1: Just "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy"
[05:37] <jackinthebox> is there a KMPlayer support channel on IRC?
[05:37] <tritium> mitcheloc: install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:37] <typhoid> okie.. how about this?    any idea why my wireless connection seems so very slow (from linux) and quite faster for windows?
[05:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell cowmilk2 about universe
[05:37] <cowmilk2> bimberi: how do i ensure universe repo is enabled  when i 'm in terminaL?
[05:37] <typhoid> okie, that does it.. i'm putting xmms on here heh
[05:37] <liquidten2> VitaminG:  No way, rhythmbox supports many more formats and is much cleaner and elegant and has much better library management >_>
[05:37] <rixth> Warbo, Banshee made my system so unstable when importing my 10,000+ library, where as Rhythmbox was cool with it. I'd  like ipod write support though
[05:37] <dibblego> cowmilk2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <liquidten2> Phoul:  Did he try restarting?
[05:37] <typhoid> ooo library management?
[05:37] <bimberi> eternaljoy: hi there, nick change i see :)
[05:37] <Phoul> liquidten2, this is durning the install
[05:37] <VitaminG> I'll give it the library management, but that's it.
[05:37] <Phoul> Does it do that when its done?
[05:37] <Grisen1> you must specify the filesystem type
[05:37] <typhoid> well.. my library is remote anyways.. i don't really need a library on here..
[05:38] <d> VitaminG, after it is done loading all packages, none of the screens seem right
[05:38] <jackinthebox> is there a KMPlayer support channel on IRC?
[05:38] <turing> open question, I've got a pentium D, top shows 2 cpus, I want a load monitor for the panel that shows both cpus, anyone got suggestions?
[05:38] <Warbo> rixth: I didn't notice your correction. I don't like Rhytmbox for some reason. Listen is good
[05:38] <DanaG> The thing is, I don't want my stuff organized by album-artist-title.
[05:38] <turing> (and how is it that I came for help and haven't gotten a single nibble on my question and have helped thousands of others...life just isn't working out for me tonight)
[05:38] <d> VitaminG: i also get, fatal server error: no screens found
[05:38] <rixth> Never heard of or seen Listen, I will look into it. I realy like the fact that RB has integrated support for Last.fm/Audioscrobbler
[05:38] <DanaG> I like to be able to load a folder at once, from the file system.
[05:39] <Cainus> geez... I can't get sshd to start at boot-time for the life of me... anyone got a suggestion?  I installed with apt-get....
[05:39] <bimberi> cowmilk2: can you view the website ubotu has sent you?  if not it's basically edit /etc/apt/sources.list as superuser and uncomment (remove #) any lines starting with 'deb' with universe in them
[05:39] <Grisen1> Warbo: Returned "you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:39] <typhoid> oi..   now that i've finally switched to 'nix for good, i feel a weight lifted from my chest
[05:39] <mitcheloc> tritium, thanks, looks like it worked :)
[05:39] <liquidten2> rixth:  Rhythmbox is awesome.  Rhythmbox + music-applet(used to be rhythmbox-applet, but now supports muine among others) is the best solution for audio playback.
[05:39] <VitaminG> d and phoul: have you tried the check cd option at the cd's boot menu? maybe you could have bad cds
[05:39] <eternaljoy> MORGANTOWN, W.Va. -- Richard Hatch, convicted of failing to pay taxes on the $1 million he won on the debut season of "Survivor," has been sent to a federal prison in West Virginia.
[05:39] <eternaljoy> sorry wrong channel
[05:39] <liquidten2> eternaljoy:  No Wai!!!!
[05:39] <cowmilk2> bimberi: yes, i'm reading the ubuto linx, but am on first paragraph, still
[05:39] <Warbo> rixth: Listen does too, it automatically creates a short playlist based on it (and it works well, selecting similar artists. Only problem is it doesn't have much of a memory, so it can cycle through the same songs a bit)
[05:40] <d> VitaminG, check cd verifys good CD
[05:40] <rixth> liquidten2, I just use the media buttons on my keyboard =)
[05:40] <jdmpike_> ok, so I really hosed my system
[05:40] <jdmpike_> can anyone give me a hand?
[05:40] <Warbo> Grisen1: try "sudo modprobe floppy && sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy -t vfat"
[05:40] <DanaG> What do I change in the dchp clien config?
[05:40] <Phoul> anyone know...
[05:40] <liquidten2> rixth:  Heh...  I got my keyboard i'm using now with my 486 about 14 years ago <_<....
[05:40] <VitaminG> d: that's stange, I've never seen a good cd fail at the end of the installation, they usually fail nearer the start.
[05:40] <eternaljoy> liquidten2: what?
[05:40] <typhoid> oi!  my kbs don't usually last a year hehehheheh
[05:41] <phargle> you're using a 486?
[05:41] <cowmilk2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19535 <-- bimberi
[05:41] <rixth> liquidten2, do the keys click realll good?
[05:41] <typhoid> install from a jumpdrive!
[05:41] <VitaminG> phoul: have you tried the verify cd option at the cd's boot menu?
[05:41] <typhoid> <needs more cowbell>
[05:41] <Phoul> he claims it didnt give him a option
[05:41] <Red_Drag0n> n00b here with question
[05:41] <Phoul> Hes using the "desktop install" cds
[05:41] <Phoul> cd*
[05:41] <Grisen1> Warbo:  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy   Returned : "you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:41] <_chris__> anyone know how to change the ubuntu orange/red icon? in gnome the menu bar and the main menu icon?
[05:42] <liquidten2> phargie:  Nope, but I still have the same keyboard I used with that PC(it's now sitting in my garage doing absolutely nothing.)
[05:42] <phargle> i wanted a keyb with half travel keys, like a laptop has
[05:42] <rixth> Warbo, can't find anything about listen?
[05:42] <typhoid> sudo mount -fs vfat /de/.. ?
[05:42] <phargle> so i got one
[05:42] <d> VitaminG, I dont get to install, i hit start/install, it loads packets, then seems to act wierd and takes me to prompt..and the prompt does not seem to display right either.  then i get that error when using startx
[05:42] <ardy> liquidten2, I'll cek already noting wrong with my configuration
[05:42] <cowmilk2> bimberi: should i also uncomment the lines with deb-src?
[05:42] <turing> grisen1 sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy
[05:42] <section31> anyone know how i can make my home and end keys work correctly using putty in the bash env.
[05:42] <VitaminG> you might have to hit a key as it starts to boot from the cd, to keep it from automatically booting the livecd, I've had that happen, but it doesn't always.
[05:42] <ardy> liquidten2, when i try to login to yahoo mail I always get this page "The requested URL /ym/login was not found on this server."
[05:43] <turing> section31 use shift-pageup  and shift-pagedown  ?  that work for you?
[05:43] <stefg> http://listengnome.free.fr/
[05:43] <Warbo> rixth: listengnome.free.fr I think
[05:43] <ardy> liquidten2, when i try to login to yahoo mail I always get this page "The requested URL /ym/login was not found on this server." Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2 Server at us.f517.mail.yahoo.com Port 80
[05:43] <bimberi> cowmilk2: no, only if you want to start compiling stuff yourself, that gives you access to the source code
[05:43] <VitaminG> I don't remember which key, though.
[05:43] <h3h_timo> Open Question: If i already have the 686 kernel installed, and then i install the 686-smp kernel, the boot, will i choose an actual 686-smp kernel, because there wasnt one appearing when i restarted???
[05:43] <Warbo> (or gnomelisten)
[05:43] <liquidten2> ardy:  That DEFINITELY sounds like a problem with Yahoo, not your PC.
[05:43] <typhoid> well.. with the new install cd, it boots to the isolinux.. then you install once you are in your isolinux i think
[05:43] <section31> stefg,tha makes page up and page down work
[05:43] <Cainus> anyone got a clue on why sshd might not run on start-up?  it's set to run in /etc/rc5.d ... is there any error log I can read to see if something's going wrong?
[05:43] <turing> h3h_timo when you open up top
[05:43] <rixth> Holy moly that page abuses xmlhttprequest :)
[05:43] <typhoid> h3h, i used the 686 and it sees my core duo as 2 cpus..
[05:43] <Grisen1> Warbo:  returned: " wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[05:43] <Grisen1>        missing codepage or other error
[05:43] <Grisen1>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:43] <Grisen1>        dmesg | tail  or so"  This is a 3M diskette and format checked out (?)
[05:44] <section31> turing,but lets say i'm typing a long command and I want to go abck to the beginning of that command
[05:44] <section31> i have to use the arrow keys
[05:44] <tritium> Grisen1: I already told you not to paste
[05:44] <typhoid> use the home key section
[05:44] <section31> typhoid,when i use the home key it makes a ~
[05:44] <turing> h3h_timo and inside top you press '1', do you see it lists 2 cpus?  cpu0 and cpu1?
[05:44] <ardy> liquidten2, no, If I try on my xp machines it works fine
[05:44] <h3h_timo> typhoid, how do you tell if it detects both cpus??
[05:44] <rixth> Warbo, how does Listen sort? does "The Rolling Stones" get sorted under R and not T?
[05:44] <turing> section31  control-a brings you to the beginning
[05:44] <Grisen1> Tritium I do not know how to use the other feature, sorry
[05:44] <h3h_timo> turing, yes
[05:44] <turing> section31 and control-e brings you to the end of the line
[05:44] <tritium> !pastebin
[05:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:44] <section31> turing,wow that works
[05:44] <bimberi> h3h_timo: linux-686 and linux-686-smp have the same dependencies in dapper.  So if you already had linux-686 then you've got the smp already
[05:44] <typhoid> i can tell using the system monitor, though i don't know the command line for it
[05:45] <turing> h3h_timo then you're running an SMP kernel
[05:45] <h3h_timo> i just brought up the system monitor typhoid
[05:45] <Grisen1> Warbo, please look at the command line message returned
[05:45] <liquidten2> ardy:  what is the output when you type in "ping us.f517.mail.yahoo.com"?
[05:45] <typhoid> in my system monitor, it has one line for cpu 1 , one for cpu 2...
[05:45] <turing> which brings me to my question...
[05:45] <turing> open question, I've got a pentium D, top shows 2 cpus, I want a load monitor for the panel that shows both cpus, anyone got suggestions?
[05:45] <typhoid> when i boot 386, tis only 1 line!
[05:45] <h3h_timo> turing, ever since i installed the 686 kernel, my system seems infinitely faster than it did before
[05:46] <turing> typhoid, which system monitor?
[05:46] <tritium> turing: please hold off a while.  You have been repeating rather often.
[05:46] <Warbo> Grisen1: Seems floppy support isn't all it's cracked up to be
[05:46] <liquidten2> typhoid:  I don't really know if that exists at the moment, at least not one for the panel.
[05:46] <Warbo> Grisen1: My floppy drives don't work :(
[05:46] <h3h_timo> turing, ive been messin with it, and havent figure anything else yet
[05:46] <ardy> liquidten2, 64 bytes from 61.6.222.233: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=0.067 ms
[05:46] <typhoid> 'tis system monitor 2.14.3
[05:46] <Warbo> Grisen1: You could just install on hda........
[05:47] <liquidten2> ardy:  Well see, from the looks of it, all outbound traffic is being redirected to localhost
[05:47] <turing> h3h_timo, well you're now having a whole cpu to deal w/ your desktop and another one for whatever app you're using, so the machine won't lock up or pause as much
[05:47] <Grisen1> My drive works fine-- just used it with 10 sequential Acronis diskettes on this machine when I 'lost' the CD drive under win98
[05:47] <ardy> liquidten2, then what should I do?
[05:47] <h3h_timo> turing, so thats how it deals with what does what?
[05:47] <cowmilk2> bimberi: do you suggest my uncommenting the backports repo, too?
[05:47] <turing> tritium, yessir holding off
[05:47] <cowmilk2> !backports
[05:47] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:47] <d> anyone else have any insight on fatal server error: screens not found?
[05:47] <typhoid> how can you tell if your outbound is being redirected?  i think something fishy is going on w/ my wireless.. it is really really slow for most things, but.. like synaptic is really fast..
[05:47] <liquidten2> ardy:  What is the output of "cat /etc/hosts"?  Usually when that happens you have a line in /etc/hosts that shouldn't be in there.
[05:48] <Grisen1> Warbo, so you believe this floppy is bad also?
[05:48] <tritium> turing: thanks :)
[05:48] <typhoid> it takes forever to connect to irc servers, to im clients and to http sources &~&~
[05:48] <bimberi> cowmilk2: no, only if you know you need to
[05:48] <turing> h3h_timo, I'm tired, I'll summarize with, yep it's better, lots better
[05:48] <Grisen1> The formatting checked out
[05:48] <cowmilk2> is there anybody here who discourges uncommenting of the backports? if so, why?
[05:48] <Warbo> Grisen1: Either that or Ubuntu doesn't like your hardware I'm afraid
[05:48] <cowmilk2> bimberi: why only when i need to? why not uncomment it now?
[05:48] <Grisen1> Can I burn a boot CD?
[05:48] <h3h_timo> turing, lol thanks, ill read more about it later, but one more quick question, can i install the same programs with 686 than i did with 386??
[05:48] <ardy> liquidten2, can I paste it in pastebin
[05:49] <liquidten2> ardy: go ahead
[05:49] <typhoid> h3h.. im pretty sure you can
[05:49] <rixth> Warbo, ipod support?! last.fm support (not just submitting)? wikipedia viewing? Brilliant!
[05:49] <turing> h3h_timo, yep shouldn't be any differences, it's just more code in your kernel that lets it know about both CPUs
[05:49] <typhoid> duocore/dual procs != x64
[05:49] <Grisen1> Warbo, can I burn a boot CD?
[05:50] <h3h_timo> alright, thanks youve been alot of help
[05:50] <turing> h3h_timo, which isn't to say that there aren't things that'll break when you're using a SMP kernel, but I wouldn't think that's too commen
[05:50] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm trying to help someone over the phone. Where is kcontrol in the menu system
[05:50] <Warbo> Grisen1: I have written a Wiki page which involves that, I'll just find it
[05:50] <h3h_timo> turing, oh, nvm, one more thing again, is 64 bit better than dual core??
[05:50] <ardy> liquidten2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19537
[05:50] <liquidten2> Bearcat:  you know, ever since kde 3.3 or so I can't find it either.  I'd tell him to just run "kcontrol" from the Konsole...
[05:50] <rixth> h3h_timo, afaik all dual core CPUs are 64 bit.
[05:50] <stefg> Bearcat: #kubuntu might be a better olace to ask that
[05:50] <rixth> With the exception os some Xeons
[05:51] <Bearcat> liquidten2: thanks
[05:51] <h3h_timo> rixth, really?
[05:51] <sasquatch> rixth: and the Core Duos...
[05:51] <h3h_timo> so could you install a 64bit distro on a dual core machine??
[05:51] <bimberi> cowmilk2: my rule of thumb is to only have them enabled for installs, not upgrades. others may differ. i only want to use backports when i absolutely have to
[05:51] <h3h_timo> rixth, but not my centrino duo??
[05:51] <typhoid> um...
[05:52] <jdmpike_> can anyone tell me about booting from SATA drives?
[05:52] <typhoid> im pretty sure duocores != x64...
[05:52] <odin__> can I install Ubuntu on a SATA HD using an IDE HD that already has ubuntu installed?
[05:52] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: all core duos are not 64 bit...
[05:52] <jdmpike_> is is possible?
[05:52] <sid> Why doesn't Ubuntu say "GNU / Linux" like debian does?
[05:52] <sasquatch> the Core 2 Duos are though :-)
[05:52] <turing> h3h_timo, my opinion...I'll never use a non dual-core or non smp machine again.  With a single core machine (even 64 bit) if a single application goes wonky and takes up 100% of the CPU, your system becomes unresponsive as all resources are devoted to the bad application/process.  With SMP or dual core you've got a whole other CPU that isn't being used at 100% that you can use to kill the runaway process
[05:52] <odin__> jdmpike_, what a coincidence
[05:52] <rixth> Woah, i thought Duo's were 64.
[05:52] <Warbo> Grisen1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB <- That is a bit more in-depth than what you want, but you can follow the CD bit (don't bother with the mkinitramfs stuff, and remember your drive is hdb1)
[05:52] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Worked with a different floppy (!)  what's next
[05:52] <sasquatch> rixth: nope
[05:52] <Warbo> Grisen1: Oh, OK
[05:52] <sasquatch> Merom will be though :-)
[05:52] <Warbo> Grisen1: It is mounted at /grubfloppy?
[05:52] <ajt> Does anyone have any experience setting up a wireless card in Ubuntu without X windows installed?
[05:52] <Grisen1> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy
[05:53] <typhoid> nah.. duos is just like.. it acts like 2 cpus..   64 means it has 64 bits of memory addresses... you could i suppose have 64 bit duocores but they are not the same thing
[05:53] <h3h_timo> turing, good point, and sasquatch, if i upgrade to a core 2 duo, i would be 64 bit eh?? what are the advantages of 64 bit?
[05:53] <jdmpike_> odin__, I installed xubuntu to /dev/sda1 and reclaimed /dev/hda1 that I had ubuntu on, I just rebooted and now I don't work!
[05:53] <typhoid> 64 bit is good .. if you have 64 bit proggies that can use the extra memory addressing..
[05:53] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: umm, it can run 64-bit apps.. and because the bus is wider, it theoritically is faster
[05:53] <Warbo> Grisen1: OK "sudo mkdir /grubfloppy/boot && sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /grubfloppy/boot"
[05:53] <odin__> jdmpike_, well I'll make srue not to do that then
[05:53] <odin__> sure*
[05:53] <sasquatch> typhoid: but laptops don't have that many DIMMs anyways...
[05:53] <typhoid> some of the 64 bit procs can act like duo cores but i've not like, figured out how to make mine do it yet heh
[05:54] <ardy> liquidten2, do you have any idea about it?
[05:54] <sasquatch> typhoid: errr... 64-bit and dual core are unrelated
[05:54] <h3h_timo> sasquatch, well, im running one of the cheaper centrino duo's, but it flies, i dont understand why you would need anything more, or if it would be worth upgrading to core 2..??
[05:54] <liquidten2> ardy: I'm stumped at the moment.  Your /etc/hosts looks fine to me...
[05:54] <typhoid> it's not about dimms.. it's like.. 32 bit procs have fingers in 32 bits worth of memory at a time.. while 64 bit can address 64 bits at once..
[05:54] <Grisen1> Warbo: "mkdir: cannot create directory `/grubfloppy/boot': Input/output error"
[05:54] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: well, in the futures, there are going to be a lot more 63-bit apps...
[05:54] <sasquatch> *64
[05:54] <typhoid> sasquach -- that's what i'm trying to say lol
[05:54] <Warbo> 64bit is becoming popular at the time dual core is, so many duals are 64bit and vice versa, but they do not imply each other
[05:55] <sasquatch> typhoid: yes.. they have a wider bus... haha
[05:55] <ardy> liquidten2, yeah same to me... I dont know why it redirected to my localhost
[05:55] <turing> h3h_timo 64 bit's kinda in it's infancy at the moment.  if you have HUGE applications that need lots of memory it's great, and if your apps are 64 bit apps.  But a 64 bit processor will generally run a 32 bit application slower than a same MHz 32 bit processor will.  Because of all the extra overhead of moving 64 bit stuff around
[05:55] <Warbo> Grisen1: Ermm.. You know when you said it had worked? :)
[05:55] <typhoid> but the 64 .. it makes no difference if you are running an os that is not 64 bit addressable and .. if you're not running proggies that were compiled to access 64 bits or whatever..
[05:55] <sasquatch> turing: hehe, i have mathematica in 64-bit mode :-)
[05:55] <turing> warbo's git it on the button
[05:55] <sasquatch> it runs much better
[05:55] <typhoid> aye.. what turing said..  x64 procs run 32 bit apps in a sort of emulated mode
[05:55] <h3h_timo> turing, so at this point, it doesnt really matter?
[05:56] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: not a bit
[05:56] <alleyoopster> good morning everyone
[05:56] <sasquatch> anyone seen the new nVidia quadroplex?
[05:56] <turing> h3h_timo if you're the kinda person that's gonna run gentoo linux and compile everything to be 64 bit yourself... you'll probably see better performance from a 64 bit dual core proc than a 32 bit dual core proc
[05:56] <bigbill52a> does anyone know if automatix will work with amd-64 ubuntu?
[05:56] <turing> but at this point...not so much
[05:57] <sasquatch> it allows about 8 or something Quadros to be linked together... 8 billion pixels per second o.O
[05:57] <turing> h3h_timo but I haven't looked into 64 but ubuntu at all
[05:57] <Warbo> bigbill52a: I think there is an amd64 version
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> What is a good photo editing program?
[05:57] <odin__> so does anybody know how to install Breezy Badger on a SATA hard drive?
[05:57] <sasquatch> Jack_Sparrow: gimp...
[05:57] <Warbo> GIMP?
[05:57] <typhoid> i'm pretty sure 64 bit ubuntu still runs 32 bit apps in emulation mode, just like win64 does
[05:57] <turing> jack_sparrow...the GIMP?
[05:57] <liquidten2> Jack_Sparrow: gimp
[05:57] <sasquatch> haha
[05:57] <liquidten2> well there ya go..
[05:57] <Grisen1> Warbo:  mount command returned this now: mount: according to mtab, /dev/fd0 is already mounted on /grubfloppy
[05:57] <Grisen1> Diskette drive hummed first, and returned that.  I know this floppy is good-- pulled it from my Acronis series.  Do I need to reformat or erase first?
[05:57] <sasquatch> we are all in agreement, the GIMP it is
[05:58] <sasquatch> Jack_Sparrow: for basic tools, you can also try the linux version of Google's Picasa
[05:58] <Warbo> Grisen1: Yes, it is already mounted, but looks like it is fscked (I/O errors are very bad)
[05:58] <bigbill52a> warbo ...is it the same one on ubuntuguide?
[05:58] <h3h_timo> turing, welp, i tried gentoo before, couldnt ever even get it running, so i tried ubuntu, and been in love with it ever since
[05:58] <sasquatch> and by basic, i mean... very basic
[05:58] <alleyoopster> I was wondering is someone can check out 2 websites for me for music browsers, they both seem to be down. Is it a problem just for me or are they really dead? http://www.exaile.org/ and http://exodus.xmms.se/
[05:58] <Warbo> bigbill52a: Try whatever the automatix site is
[05:58] <turing> jack_sparrow...unless you're using windows, in which case I think there's something called "Gimpshop" to try out :)
[05:58] <bigbill52a> ok
[05:58] <typhoid> my college roomie spent like 2 years setting up a gentoo distro lol
[05:58] <iNToIT> sup
[05:58] <typhoid> then he accidentally wiped the drive >< ><
[05:58] <sasquatch> bigbill52a: is Automatix on sourceforge? because there's probably an AMD64 binary you could compile anyways
[05:58] <turing> h3h_timo then stick w/ ubuntu, run for a while and on your next upgrade go 64 bit
[05:59] <turing> h3h, but not at the expense of loosing dual core
[05:59] <dad_> can someone help me get opengl compiling working?
[05:59] <Warbo> Automatic is a script, so I don't think it needs to be compiled at all, it just needs to make sure it doesn't install 386 stuff
[05:59] <sasquatch> turing: i don't know how i ever survived without dual core...
[05:59] <Grisen1> Sorry, this diskette with 9 others just 2 weeks ago ran Acronis on this system when it couldn't find its Cd after a BIOS update.  The diskette is good.  I will try formatting and repeat the mount command.
[05:59] <typhoid> for the average desktop user (read: for non-server machines, non-science machines) -- duo-core > 64 bit  (imho)
[05:59] <sasquatch> Warbo: ah, that makes sense
[05:59] <h3h_timo> turing, thanks, im learning so much from the nightcrew
[06:00] <liquidten2> sasquatch: I've never even used a dual core in _my entire life_ and I get along fine <_<
[06:00] <sasquatch> typhoid: but servers usually have more than 1 processor anyways :-)
[06:00] <sasquatch> liquidten2: once you go dual, you can't go back man...
[06:00] <turing> I'm in agreement w/ typhoid
[06:00] <sasquatch> EVERYTHING runs faster... smoother...
[06:00] <typhoid> good point sasquach =D
[06:00] <h3h_timo> sasquatch, its true, i cant remember once ever being lockedup
[06:01] <danf_1979> I tried to search for md5 package but it does not exist. What package in the repos let me calculate the md5sum?
[06:01] <Warbo> How can I copy all of the hidden folders and files from one folder into another? I was thinking: cp -r `ls -A | grep -v " "` destination
[06:01] <typhoid> i just got this laptop like a week ago.. it's my first dual core and.. i can tell a giant difference.. it is just so smooth and fast!
[06:01] <iNToIT> tell me
[06:01] <Grisen1> Warbo, how do I unmount that diskette so I can format and erase and finish please?
[06:01] <DanaG> I love dual core.
[06:01] <h3h_timo> typhoid, what kind of laptop??
[06:01] <Warbo> Grisen1: sudo umount /grubfloppy
[06:01] <DanaG> I just need to figure out how to replicate SuSE's nice udev rules in Ubuntu.
[06:01] <Grisen1> tks
[06:01] <typhoid> it's a dell inspiron e1505 =D
[06:02] <dad_> i'm trying to compile nehe's first opengl tutorial, but its saying cannot find -lX11, I already installed the GL stuff fine, I'm pretty sure I have -lX11 but it can't find it
[06:02] <sasquatch> typhoid: sweet :-)
[06:02] <liquidten2> sasquatch: I've had this PC for about 7 years now, and every time I think about going 64bit/multi-cpu/smp/etc all I need to do is look at my bank statement....
[06:02] <sasquatch> i'm running ubuntu on my laptop too
[06:02] <alleyoopster> People are these websites dead or do I have a problem - http://exodus.xmms.se/ and  http://www.exaile.org/. Thanks
[06:02] <Warbo> alleyoopster: The XMMS one doesn't work for me
[06:02] <sasquatch> liquidten2: haha, fair enough, but you can get a dual core computer for about 600 bucks...
[06:02] <sasquatch> DYI
[06:02] <liquidten2> dad_: You're going to need to install the corresponding -dev packages
[06:02] <sasquatch> you need time though...
[06:02] <dad_> I'm pretty sure that I already did
[06:02] <odin__> so, I take it nobody on here can help me with this SATA prob?
[06:02] <alleyoopster> Warbo: thanks
[06:02] <dad_> I'll check again
[06:02] <sasquatch> downside of DIY
[06:02] <liquidten2> dad_: such as xserver-xorg-whateverthehellitis-dev or mesagl-dev/etc-dev
[06:02] <h3h_timo> typhoid, i got an acer aspire 5672 WLMi, it was a little over a grand, and i love it
[06:03] <typhoid> aye.. i had to get a new one before grad school starts.. my old one was just not cutting it anymore ><    the first thing i did was wipe that dell/windows garbage off and put this on = D  i'm so glad i did..  no way im going to pay for that vista crap ><
[06:03] <dad_> ok thanks, I don't think I got that
[06:03] <sasquatch> odin__: what's the problem?
[06:03] <Warbo> Building your own computers isn't that much cheaper these days. The only advantage is getting exactly what you want
[06:03] <h3h_timo> typhoid, i still have windows, but i never use it, unless im playing oblivion :)
[06:03] <odin__> man, I got this OLD laptop for $160 off eBay, runs Pentium II, and I like it
[06:03] <typhoid> i think i paid 1500 or so for mine, but it was on a one-day 400$ off deal, so i got pretty lucky
[06:03] <sasquatch> typhoid: i got a Dell XPS M1210 :-)
[06:03] <sasquatch> i got 600 canadian off it
[06:03] <typhoid> haha!  i still have windows on my desktop, just for oblivion as well
[06:03] <sasquatch> typhoid: i have windows for half-life 2:-)
[06:03] <typhoid> oo i wanted an xps but none were in my price range
[06:03] <h3h_timo> typhoid, thats sweet, what kind of video card do you have???
[06:04] <Warbo> It's sad that if you don't want Windows for Oblivion, then you need an Xbox :(
[06:04] <odin__> sasquatch, I just learned the hard way that I can't do a fresh install of Ubuntu onto a SATA hard drive, so I was wondering if I could somehow install it using an IDE hard drive with it already installed
[06:04] <sasquatch> typhoid: hmm, i got a very sweet deal on this, only 1500 canadian
[06:04] <liquidten2> typhoid: My PC I paid about 400$ for, then about 200$ in upgrades over the years(Sound card, video card, DVD/cdrw/etc combo drive) and I don't think i'm ever going to buy another desktop again.
[06:04] <typhoid> i don't remember but i paid an extra 200 dollars for it.. it's a pretty nice one but.. off the top of my head, i forget
[06:04] <Sedated> anybody got some tips for dual displays with the fglrx driver
[06:04] <Sedated> ?
[06:04] <h3h_timo> mines a radion x1600
[06:04] <sasquatch> odin__: oh... hmmm, that's tough, certain SATA drivers still don't work
[06:04] <h3h_timo> almost the best in the mobile line
[06:04] <typhoid> my desktop is also a server..  it will be around for years, methinks..
[06:05] <typhoid> hopefully wine will evolve enough to play all my games on and i can just totally switch from the m$ beast
[06:05] <sasquatch> typhoid: i'm running my old laptop as a server... haha
[06:05] <turing> just to throw out into the void a great find I found, the gparted live cd is WONDERFUL.  It'll let you shrink/grow partitions, copy them, move them, slice them, dice them, make windows shrink until it squeals...it's wonderful
[06:05] <odin__> sasquatch, tsk, what a shame, and I got this 250GB drive just for my little linux machine too
[06:05] <sasquatch> it uses so little power :-)
[06:05] <eternaljoy> shall I type apr-get clean after upgrading?
[06:05] <rixth> Warbo, Listen is AMAZING. Pretty UI, lyrics, Wikipedia... ahh
[06:05] <sasquatch> odin__: hmmm, can you reformat it using the install disk?
[06:05] <dad_> right now I'm running on a small form factor HP desktop with a Pent 3 933 mHz that I got on ebay for $30
[06:05] <danf_1979> sasquatch, what services? :)
[06:05] <h3h_timo> rixth, what is Listen??
[06:05] <turing> typhoid, have you use crossover office and tried that out?
[06:05] <rixth> Warbo, much more resource friendly that RB too
[06:05] <rixth> h3h_timo, music player
[06:05] <typhoid> i've got 2 more boxes in the closet,..  it is just not as exciting now adays to bugger with those old machines , so.. they just sit there.. though  they would make some nice servers
[06:06] <sasquatch> danf_1979: just apache right now
[06:06] <liquidten2> rixth: what's the URL?
[06:06] <odin__> sasquatch, reformat what?  the SATA hd?  it doesn't even detect it when it comes to the partitioning part
[06:06] <h3h_timo> rixth, really? instal with apt-get??
[06:06] <stefg> eternaljoy: better sudo apt-get autoclean, that leaves the new packages in cache
[06:06] <Warbo> rixth: I added the repo to this LiveCD session especially :)
[06:06] <typhoid> my 'desktop' though has 4 raptors (2 raids) and .. well, it's a monster =D    it will be nice to take windows off of it one day
[06:06] <sasquatch> odin__: oh.. crap... hmmm... google to see if there's any 3rd party drivers...
[06:06] <Grisen1> Warbo, no I/O error this time.  Can we check the contents of the floppy?  Or just try it...
[06:06] <sasquatch> i dunno, SATA can be a bitch for some reason
[06:06] <rixth> http://listengnome.free.fr/ if you want to get via apt-get, you have to add the repo deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper listen
[06:06] <turing> typhoid, what suggestions for inexpensive raid 5 cards for linux?
[06:06] <sasquatch> i still have problems with my other SATA drive that uses a 3rd party driver
[06:07] <Warbo> Grisen1: You have copied grub folder across?
[06:07] <typhoid> inexpensive raid 5?  is there such a thing?
[06:07] <odin__> can I really install drivers on a hard drive that doesn't even have an OS yet?
[06:07] <Grisen1> sudo mkdir /grubfloppy/boot && sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /grubfloppy/boot
[06:07] <phargle> they load into memory
[06:07] <Warbo> Grisen1: Wow, then "sudo grub-install /dev/fd0" should work now
[06:07] <rixth> Warbo, my only gripe is that artists starting with The get sorted under T and not the main artist name (iTunes, Windows Media etc do this)
[06:07] <sasquatch> odin__: lol.. well, i you sould need another hard disk.. i'm not too sure...
[06:07] <typhoid> i'm running raid 1 on mine, with the onboard controllers..  i don't have the loot to pay for nice controller cards ><
[06:07] <h3h_timo> rixth, why dont you make a tutorial in the ubuntu wiki??
[06:07] <eternaljoy> stefg: why I need the the new packages in cache?
[06:07] <liquidten2> rixth:  It looks a LOT like rhythmbox with an extra sidebar >_>
[06:07] <Warbo> rixth: I set my tags to "Artist, The"
[06:08] <turing> typhoid haha, or I guess how much should I be forking out?  or are you using a JBOD or other non RAID 5 level?
[06:08] <bruenig> does anyone know where I can find cmd.exe the windows command line and be able to download it, I need it for something I want to try in wine
[06:08] <sasquatch> rixth: i do the same as Warbo, works fine
[06:08] <eternaljoy> stefg: why I need the new packages in cache after they been installed?
[06:08] <sasquatch> i think the new Amarok does it automaticall anyways
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> i need some help with nxclient.  are there any particular ports i need to open besides the standard "22" to get a connection?
[06:08] <turing> typhoid...but w/ RAID 1 you're quadroupling your likelyhood of catastrophic failure
[06:08] <odin__> sasquatch, well I still at least have this hard disk that I'm using right now
[06:08] <phargle> ew
[06:08] <stefg> maybe you need to reinstall one of them, just for good measure
[06:08] <turing> any 1 drive dies and you loose it all
[06:08] <sasquatch> odin__: hmm, i'm not too sure though... you might want to post on forums where the real pros are
[06:08] <eternaljoy> why does Juicer spin my Audio CD like crazy and run realy slow to copy?  Any fix?
[06:09] <typhoid> aye.. i'm not using raid 5..   it's not like.. it isn't hotswappable or anything... just striped and mirrored.. the higher raid levels, they can get pretty expensive..   the last time i was considering getting one,  i think it was something like 3000 USD for a smooth controller
[06:09] <sasquatch> Warbo: AmaroK is possibly the best music client on any system :-)
[06:09] <stefg> eternaljoy: but if you're really short of diskspace and have ample bandwidth... apt-get clean is fine
[06:09] <odin__> sasquatch, been scanning forums off of google, finding questions but little in answers unless I might be running PCLinux or RedHat or some-such
[06:09] <ReWT_AxS> Do I need something special to install samba on a 64 bit using Dapper?
[06:09] <h3h_timo> rixth, it does look like rhythmbox... do you like amarok??
[06:09] <sasquatch> odin__: try the posting on the ubuntu forums, someone might know
[06:10] <eternaljoy> stefg: ok ty
[06:10] <rixth> h3h_timo, it is much better =) I don't like amarok
[06:10] <turing> typhoid, I've been seeing good ones new for 600, considering some around 300.  But 300's a bit too much for me to bite on for home at this point...maybe I need  more server-oriented consulting projects
[06:10] <liquidten2> I still like rhythmbox more, for 1.  It blends in with my desktops(If i'm in Gnome, Windowmaker, or Icewm, simply because 99.5% of my apps are GTK2) and 2.  rhythmbox-applet for the panel
[06:10] <h3h_timo> rixth, reason for not liking??
[06:10] <odin__> sasquatch, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[06:10] <eternaljoy> stefg: why would I need to keep the files in the cache seeing they already been installed?
[06:10] <sasquatch> odin__: sorry i couldn't be of more help :-(
[06:10] <rixth> Don't like KDE
[06:10] <Grisen1> Warbo:  sudo grub-install /dev/fd0 "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."  Why do the other commands work and not this one?
[06:10] <h3h_timo> turing, is there a way to put a monitor for both cores on the panel??
[06:10] <Warbo> Listen needs some shortcut keys like Super-B is skip for Amarok
[06:10] <sasquatch> rixth: KDE does use up a lot of resources...
[06:10] <typhoid> aye..  my  box mainly serves music and stuff (locally)... that, and development
 all this discussion about mp3 players, just dd the mp3 to your audio device... </sarcasm>
[06:10] <typhoid> we've got dedicated servers connected to hubs for the real work  *~
[06:11] <Warbo> Grisen1: Try unmounting it first "sudo umount /grubfloppy"
[06:11] <typhoid> by hubs, i  mean they are in texas lol
[06:11] <Grisen1> ok
[06:11] <sasquatch> turing: the sarcasm tag things work better if you only add it at the end :-P
[06:11] <turing> h3h_timo, you're baiting me, right?
[06:11] <duncanm> hola, anyone know how i can turn off "CIFS Unix extensions"?
[06:11] <h3h_timo> what?? lol
[06:11] <sasquatch> for example, turing is a freaking genius! </sarcasm>
[06:11] <typhoid> lol turing
[06:11] <duncanm> samba is trying to map the UIDs for me, and it's just screwing things up
[06:11] <dxdemetriou> The new version of mplayer will be added in repositories for Dapper, or will must wait for the Edgy?
[06:11] <typhoid> well..  it's bad form to have a closing tag with no opener
[06:12] <turing> h3h_timo, that question is the reason I signed on tonight, no one has answered me yet
[06:12] <typhoid> like,  <sarcasm> come on guys, grammar is for losers </sarcasm>
[06:12] <Grisen1> Warbo:  "umount: /grubfloppy: not mounted"
[06:12] <sasquatch> typhoid: let tidy sort it out :-P
[06:12] <h3h_timo> turing, you just want to monitor??? lol thats cool cuz i want to.. im gonna look
[06:12] <Warbo> Grisen1: Try "ls /grubfloppy"
[06:12] <typhoid> haha!
[06:12] <turing> sasquatch, I don't understand...you said a true statement then added that unmatched sarcasm tag...just didn't make any sense :)
[06:12] <liquidten2> Grisen1: just cat /etc/mtab to see if it is actually mounted
[06:13] <sasquatch> turing: haha, well, now we know who's ego is bloated :-)
[06:13] <cowmilk2> so i've just added "japanese" in Settings/Language Support. So how do i type in Japanese now? Do i have to restart the computer?
[06:13] <rixth> Warbo, does listen touch the tags of a file though?
[06:13] <Warbo> liquidten2: I think he has just copied stuff to a folder with no floppy mounted in it
[06:13] <cowmilk2> 	correction: Not Settings/Language Support, but "System/Language Support"
[06:13] <cowmilk2> and i'm in xubuntu
[06:13] <stefg> would turing, h3h_timo and typhoid mind taking that over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:13] <Warbo> rixth: I think so
[06:13] <typhoid> cowmilk2 -- methinks you need a new keyboard?
[06:13] <Cartm4n> ping
[06:13] <cowmilk2> typhoid: what?
[06:13] <rixth> Warbo, argh!
[06:13] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Yes, returned "boot" in blue letters and then command line
[06:13] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: you need to boot up SCIM
[06:13] <Cartm4n> ping
[06:13] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: how do i boot it up?
[06:13] <typhoid> taking what over to offtopic?
[06:13] <Cartm4n> ping
[06:13] <liquidten2> pong
[06:13] <Warbo> rixth: What? I HATE it when I spend ages retaggin files in Amarok, then they are wrong in other players!
[06:13] <sasquatch> 
[06:14] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: cool
[06:14] <cowmilk2> now how do i boot up SCIM?
[06:14] <h3h_timo> are we in trouble??
[06:14] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: errr.. i just pressed a lot of buttons.. haha
[06:14] <liquidten2> SCIM!
[06:14] <Cartm4n> linux is crap
[06:14] <Cartm4n> ubuntu is crap
[06:14] <sasquatch> Cartm4n: damn straight
[06:14] <typhoid> cartman is a nazi
[06:14] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Yes, returned "boot" in blue letters and then command line
[06:14] <liquidten2> HELl YEAH!
[06:14] <Warbo> Grisen1: What you have done there, is make a folder and copy GRUB into it. You have NOT copied GRUB onto a floppy disc, since the disc was not mounted when you copied it across
[06:14] <duncanm> anyone use samba on both a linux server and a linux client?
[06:14] <rixth> Warbo, all my tags are pristine, my file structure is the same everywhere... I really don't want someting messing with it eh.
[06:14] <Cartm4n> die ubuntu
[06:14] <Cartm4n> ubuntu die
[06:14] <rixth> Die Cartm4n, give NZ a bad name
[06:14] <typhoid> ubuntu is saving the world from windows as we speek
[06:15] <stefg> duncanm: that's a pretty common scenario
[06:15] <Grisen1> Okay...
[06:15] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[06:15] <sasquatch> !help SCIM
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about help SCIM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:15] <Warbo> rixth: My filesystem used to have a nice stucture, but I couldn't be bothered to stick to it
[06:15] <h3h_timo> typhoid, its true
[06:15] <J2D2> what is a good system monitor for dapper?
[06:15] <Cornellius> !info scim
[06:15] <ubotu> scim: smart common input method platform. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-1ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 751 kB, installed size 1872 kB
[06:15] <turing> typhoid, I think apple's doing the same thing
[06:15] <duncanm> stefg: i'm having trouble mounting if my UID is not the same across server/client
[06:15] <Warbo> J2D2: Gkrellm
[06:15] <sasquatch> Cornellius: thanks :-) i always forget the bot commands...
[06:15] <duncanm> stefg: in fact, i can mount okay but the UID on the client is the one from the server, which is not what i want
[06:15] <typhoid> can you recompile an apple kernel?
[06:15] <J2D2> can you get it via apt-get Warbo
[06:15] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: oh, it says i have to log out and in.
[06:16] <cowmilk2> so see you in a bit
[06:16] <stefg> duncam
[06:16] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: thanks!!!
[06:16] <stefg> !samba
[06:16] <Warbo> J2D2: There are quite a few packages
[06:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:16] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: no prob
[06:16] <liquidten2> On slackware for scim, all I have to do is add "scim -d" to my .xinitrc and then add  "export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM" to my .bashrc, and then press ctrl+space to type
[06:16] <Warbo> !info gkrellmd
[06:16] <ubotu> gkrellmd: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [daemon] . In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 77 kB, installed size 196 kB
[06:16] <sasquatch> i look forward to chattin in japanese with you :-)
[06:16] <sasquatch> typhoid: you mean Darwin?
[06:16] <liquidten2> I too need scim for Japanese
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth are you from nz?
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth what city?
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth are you from nz?
[06:17] <typhoid> sasquatch: i'm not sure..  but i don't know how apple is saving anyone if they still charge for their OS
[06:17] <sasquatch> 
[06:17] <rixth> I am not telling you because I don't wise to associate with you.
[06:17] <rixth> Wish, rather
[06:17] <sasquatch> typhoid: well, their kernel is open source
[06:17] <kaffien> having some issues with ubuntu
[06:17] <turing> warbo, do you have an additional explaination of what gkrellmd does?
[06:17] <h3h_timo> typhoid, is mac osx expensive?
[06:17] <sasquatch> Darwin is based ond BSD
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth you are grumpy
[06:17] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: yes.. very
[06:17] <kaffien> i cannot seem to compile nvidia drivers
[06:18] <kaffien> im missing a kernel package but i dont know what i need
[06:18] <Grisen1> Warbo:  The 3 P's,  Persistence, Patience and PLEASE
[06:18] <turing> h3h_timo $70 for students/teachers
[06:18] <duncanm> sasquatch: i think you might want 
[06:18] <kaffien> or if i need to make a symlink  for /usr/src/linux
[06:18] <typhoid> I don't know a thing about apple, besides the fact that it's unix based and they seem to me as bad as microsoft, just not as um...  bloodthirsty
[06:18] <h3h_timo> turing, i hate macosx tho
[06:18] <Cartm4n> fuck you rixth
[06:18] <sasquatch> duncanm: nah, i was using it to prove a point :-)
[06:18] <h3h_timo> my friend has it, and i hate it
[06:18] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: it's all eyecandy and no muscle :-)
[06:18] <shawnr_> besides looking in xorg.config, is there a terminal command to tell me what graphics driver x is currently using?
[06:19] <liquidten2> sasquatch:
[06:19] <liquidten2> 
[06:19] <h3h_timo> i know.. freakin shiznit, i can do that with my ubuntu (caresses computer) lol... i love the way it looks now
[06:19] <nalioth> rixth: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:19] <dad_> TBH, the first time I ran Ubuntu it sort of reminded me of OSX, how it looks good yet is advanced-usable like windows
[06:19] <sasquatch> liquidten2: sweet :-)
[06:19] <liquidten2> I jsut can't get scim to work in Gaim >_>
[06:19] <nalioth> liquidten2: duncanm sasquatch english please
[06:19] <rixth> nalioth, bollocks to you. _I_ get in trouble while he is telling me to fuck off.
[06:19] <duncanm> liquidten2: right click on the input box
[06:19] <liquidten2> I assume I have to hit shift+enter to send a message through scim?
[06:19] <shawnr_> besides looking in xorg.config, is there a terminal command to tell me what graphics driver x is currently using?
[06:19] <duncanm> liquidten2: make sure the input method is SCIM
[06:19] <sasquatch> 
[06:20] <odin__> crap, there's nowhere on the darn ubuntu forum to ask questiosn
[06:20] <odin__> questions*
[06:20] <h3h_timo> rixth, you ever use beep media player??
[06:20] <Warbo> shawnr_: lsmod | grep nv or nvidia or ati or fglrx or whatever
[06:20] <sasquatch> errr...
[06:20] <sasquatch> why was i just kicked?
[06:20] <typhoid> uh oh, we've got a dictator in control of the channel!
[06:20] <liquidten2> (00:20:21) sasquatch left the room (requested by nalioth: "english please").
[06:20] <typhoid> that's my cue to leave for the night methinks
[06:20] <nalioth> sasquatch: i asked you to keep your keyboard switched to English
[06:20] <chris86wm> is there a command for mute?
[06:20] <nalioth> typhoid: seveas is asleep
[06:21] <sasquatch> nalioth: oh... sorry, missed that
[06:21] <shawnr_> Warbo, how do i tell which one is currently in use?
[06:21] <typhoid> take care everyone, thank you for the company!  i'll be back =D
[06:21] <liquidten2> I didn't even know IRC supported the proper encodings for Japanese in the first place <_<
[06:21] <Warbo> shawnr_: If there are multiple then I don't know, but if only one appears then it is in use
[06:21] <sasquatch> liquidten2: it support UTF-8 :-)
[06:21] <Grisen1> Warbo, can we look at the contents of this floppy?
[06:21] <sasquatch> well, certain clients
[06:21] <rixth_> Eugh.
[06:21] <rixth_> Power tripping ops. get over yourselves.
[06:21] <Warbo> Grisen1: Yes. "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy && ls /grubfloppy"
[06:22] <DanaG> aaargh, this /lib/udev/usb_id doesn't tell you what input it expects.
[06:22] <h3h_timo> rixth_, you ever use beep media player?
[06:22] <sasquatch> nalioth: sorry, someone had a question about SCIM earlier, just helping them out and then discussing nationalities...
[06:22] <Grisen1> Warbo: okay, mounted, now what?
[06:22] <sasquatch> rixth_: meh...
[06:22] <shawnr_> Warbo, they all do lol. even ati, and i have nvidia
[06:22] <duncanm> liquidten2: does that work now?
[06:22] <rixth_> h3h_timo: nope, I have used XMMS though. Have they started the rewrite from scracth like they sai they were?
[06:22] <Warbo> Just copied 50978 files in about a minute. They are all tiny, but it is still satisfying to see the numbers flying past :)
[06:23] <alleyoopster> XMMS2 is underway
[06:23] <dad_> heh, yea it is
[06:23] <h3h_timo> rixth, i have no idea, i just wish xmms had a good library tool
[06:23] <h3h_timo> rixth, the only app i can find with a good library manager for linux is amarok
[06:23] <Warbo> Grisen1: "ls foldername" will list the contents of folder "foldername", so "ls /grubfloppy"
[06:23] <sasquatch> just out of curiousity... why is this an english only channel?
[06:23] <rixth_> I never liked winamp in the first place so xmms didnt appleal :)
[06:23] <liquidten2> duncanm:  Both SCIM input method and X Input method work, but when I go to hit enter I cannot actually send the message.  (I assume that SCIM is taking the enter, not GAIM)
[06:24] <turing> well before I sign off for the night, does anyone have any suggestions for h3h_timo and I about good CPU load monitering apps that'll show each CPU's load seperately?
[06:24] <nalioth> sasquatch: because Ubuntu runs many language channels to help folks for one
[06:24] <Grisen1> Warbo: the floppy is mounted.  Contents are "boot" (in blue letters)
[06:24] <h3h_timo> turing, lol ur the man, no body ever answers us tho
[06:24] <h3h_timo> we are alone in our search
[06:24] <duncanm> oh
[06:25] <duncanm> liquidten2: i had that thing before......
[06:25] <sasquatch> nalioth: ah... but i didn't know we discouraged biligualism... meh, just curious
[06:25] <duncanm> i forgot how i fixed it
[06:25] <duncanm> liquidten2: it might be an SCIM config thing
[06:25] <tritium> turing: I am not aware of a solution to your question.  I did look into it, but did not find anything.
[06:25] <alleyoopster> turing: have you tried sensors
[06:25] <duncanm> liquidten2: you might have the 'decide' key set to enter
[06:25] <nalioth> sasquatch: if you wish to join #ubuntu-jp, i'm sure they'll be happy to be bilingual
[06:25] <Warbo> Grisen1: Try "ls /grubfloppy/boot" and see if grub is in there, then "ls /grubfloppy/boot/grub" and see if all of the "stage" files are in there
[06:25] <tritium> sasquatch: there are language-specific channels
[06:25] <duncanm> i'm really pissed off about this CIFS thing
[06:25] <sasquatch> tritium: but would i get kicked out of ubuntu-jp for speaking english?
[06:25] <duncanm> why is it so determined to match UIDs for me
[06:26] <duncanm> i thought that was the reason why people used SMB over NFS
[06:26] <tritium> sasquatch: possibly
[06:26] <rixth_> Thanks, tritium.
[06:26] <liquidten2> duncanm: Because It Knows What's Best(tm)
[06:26] <sasquatch> tritium: mm, therein lies the conundrum
[06:26] <tritium> rixth_: not too cool, eh?
[06:26] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Yes, it all appears to be there...
[06:26] <rixth_> tritium: can we go somewhere and discuss this for a moment?
[06:26] <h3h_timo> turing, u still in here??
[06:27] <turing> alleyoopster, sensors sounds promising....Add/Remove apps shows X Sensors and gDesklets..should I try synaptec?
[06:27] <alleyoopster> turing: it is in repos under lm-sensors and you can use x or gdesklets to view the sensors for CPU fans etc
[06:27] <ajt> Does anyone know where I can find information on how to setup a Netgear WG311T using the commandline?
[06:27] <h3h_timo> rixth, got any good apps to listen to internet radio streams??
[06:27] <liquidten2> h3h_timo: he left a while ago.
[06:27] <tritium> rixth_: yes
[06:27] <Warbo> Grisen1: Then "sudo umount /grubfloppy" should make sure they are written to disc and grub-instal lSHOULD work
[06:27] <rixth_> h3h_timo: rhythmbox does a good job of that.
[06:27] <bimberi> turing: GUI - gnome-system-monitor,  CLI - press the 1 key while running top
[06:27] <stefg> !wifi
[06:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:27] <ajt> you're awesome
[06:27] <shawnr_> besides looking in xorg.config, is there a terminal command to tell me what graphics driver x is currently using?
[06:27] <h3h_timo> rixth, its not showing any stations... and liquidten2 im not that dumb
[06:28] <ajt> stefg: how about via the command line?
[06:28] <ajt> stefg: I don't have xwindows installed. It's a server
[06:28] <turing> bimberi, can you get gnome-system-monitor to show which CPU individual processes are running on?
[06:28] <alleyoopster> turing: they need setting up. Follow this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lm-sensors
[06:29] <tritium> rixth_: are you going to join?
[06:29] <liquidten2> h3h_timo: Heh... you're right, I got his name confused with some one else's >_<
[06:29] <ajt> !wifi commandline
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about wifi commandline - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:29] <turing> alleyoopster, thanks!
[06:29] <stefg> ajt: sorry, i don't run wireless... just made the bot spit out the link to let you see it..
[06:29] <h3h_timo> liquidten2, lol thats funny
[06:29] <rixth_> tritium: U am there
[06:29] <ajt> stefg: np thanks
[06:29] <liquidten2> ajt:  the "iwconfig" and "ifconfig" commandxz will work
[06:30] <Warbo> liquidten2: Any idea what "iwlist" does?
[06:30] <bimberi> turing: idk sorry :|
[06:30] <bobovski> help! my flash player won't play sound (again) it did work, but now nothing.
[06:30] <liquidten2> ajt:  I have no idea, every time I try to use it it simply says that my card doesn't support it.
[06:30] <Grisen1> Warbo, Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.  BUT can I try this diskette from a cold shutdown?  What should it do?
[06:30] <ajt> liquidten2: I figured that much just can't figure out how to use iwconfig to setup a WPA-SK connection
[06:30] <ajt> I think I might of foudn something tho
[06:30] <sasquatch> Warbo: just gives detailed info
[06:30] <turing> h3h_timo did you catch all that?
[06:30] <sasquatch> type man iwlist for more info
[06:31] <Warbo> Grisen1: You can always try it, but it may not work
[06:31] <Warbo> I had to move iwlist out of $PATH since it took up 90%+ CPU and hardly anything would run (including sudo and GNOME)
[06:31] <Grisen1> Then I've lost nothing.  Except to try something else-- like GRUB on a
[06:31] <Samus_Aran> Apache2 has /etc/apache2/mods-available/* as symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/* .. is there some tool to set these up automatically, or why was this format chosen ?
[06:32] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB <- includes GRUB on a CD at the end
[06:32] <h3h_timo> turing
[06:33] <h3h_timo> turing, um no, it flew by me, and i just said your name i think
[06:33] <phuzz> gnome: "the greeter application apears to be crashing attempting to use a diffrent one" any ideas?
[06:34] <h3h_timo> turing, what you are gonna use to do it?? gdesklets? or something else?
[06:35] <DanaG> aargh, my /lib/udev/usb_id won't return anything.
[06:35] <df00zz> Hey.  If I install the linux-386 packages and linux-image etc
[06:35] <df00zz> is it going to overwrite my current custom stuff, or will it just add another entry to the grub boot config?
[06:36] <df00zz> .i suppose i could just do it and watch what happens
[06:36] <liquidten2> It won't overrwrite your current custom config.  Or at least ideally that is.
[06:36] <h3h_timo> turing, u still there ??
[06:37] <liquidten2> df00zz: as long as your kernel in /boot is named as something unique it should be fine
[06:37] <df00zz> ah, ok
[06:37] <df00zz> it is
[06:37] <df00zz> thanks
[06:37] <baconbacon> it depends on some lines
[06:38] <baconbacon> what is after  ## End Default Options ## but before END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST could be overwritten
[06:38] <liquidten2> df00zz: you MIGHT want to backup your grub config file first though, just in case.
[06:38] <anonymeeee> how do I add my username to the admin group  in  the sudoers file ?
[06:39] <h3h_timo> !sensors
[06:39] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:39] <bruenig> how do you launch a program in a windows command prompt?
[06:39] <baconbacon> anonymeeee: you just add yourself to the admin group
[06:40] <Gumby> anonobomber: edit /etc/group and add your user to the admin group
[06:40] <Gumby> errr, anonymeeee
[06:40] <nalioth> anonymeeee: open a console and type "man visudo"
[06:40] <bthornton> my "gnome-panel"s have once again crashed; what's the signal to "restart" a process?
[06:40] <baconbacon> shouldn't he use usermod
[06:40] <Gixbit> Why won't startx or xinit or any GUI interface initializer command work for me?
[06:41] <bthornton> and, while I'm here, is anybody else having problems with their panels?  mine always crash.
[06:41] <Gixbit> Is there some special thing I have to do?
[06:41] <Warbo> AA! Not only does mldonkey-server break when it installs, but it breaks when it is removed!
[06:41] <bobovski> hi all, can someone help me get flash player's sound working again? Everything was fine but now does not work. There was an upgrade to firefox...would that have caused it/
[06:41] <Warbo> "Starting MLDonkey: mlnetinstall: invalid option -- f"
[06:41] <secleinteer> could some1 point me to the location of the ubuntu icon in the top left of the screen?
[06:42] <liquidten2> bobovski: If ESD is running, turn it off, if it is off, turn it on.
[06:42] <Warbo>  /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png I think
[06:42] <secleinteer> ok thx
[06:42] <liquidten2> bobovski: ESD would be the Sound System option somewhere in the preferences menu.
[06:42] <h3h_timo> Warbo, do you know how to change that?
[06:42] <liquidten2> bobovski: then logout and log back in and it should work again
[06:43] <h3h_timo> Warbo, the ubuntu logo, that is
[06:43] <bobovski> liquidten2: killall esd does nothing
[06:43] <liquidten2> what does lsof /dev/dsp say?
[06:43] <Warbo> h3h_timo: Just copy something else there (with sudo)
[06:43] <h3h_timo> aight thanks
[06:43] <Warbo> I used to have a badger, but it is inappropriate now
[06:43] <bobovski> liquidten2: nothing
[06:44] <liquidten2> lsof /dev/snd/* ?
[06:44] <CyDrive> How do i get java to work with firefox?
[06:44] <Warbo> fuser /dev/dsp
[06:44] <DanaG> join #udev
[06:44] <baconbacon> CyDrive: how did you install java
[06:44] <stefg> !java
[06:44] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:44] <h3h_timo> Warbo, thanks
[06:44] <bobovski> liquidten2: ok it has listings for all users
[06:44] <CyDrive> Off thier site
[06:44] <CyDrive> off of the java website
[06:45] <Warbo> What does "rF" mean next to a package in dpkg -l?
[06:45] <stefg> CyDrive: you can apt-get if you enable the multiverse repo
[06:45] <Warbo> !tell CyDrive about java
[06:45] <liquidten2> bobovski: Well if you have something blocking the soundcard, sound in flash will not play unless ESD is running.  You're going to have to kill all the processes that show up in "lsof /dev/snd/*" and then it should work again.
[06:46] <Samus_Aran> Gixbit: does "X" load ?  (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill it, if it does load)
[06:46] <turing> !wmsmpmon
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about wmsmpmon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:46] <Samus_Aran> Gixbit: if it doesn't, look at the error message to see why not
[06:46] <bobovski> liquidten2: strange, no processes show up. I guess I'll just logout and back in and see what's up. Thanks for the help
[06:46] <bobovski> byebye
[06:46] <h3h_timo> turing, did you get em running?
[06:47] <sagarp> when using SCONS to install something how can i uninstall it?
[06:47] <Warbo> Anyone familiar with package states? dpkg -l is saying "rF"
[06:47] <stefg> !bug #29760
[06:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about bug #29760 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:47] <turing> nothing gui and pretty yet
[06:47] <dibblego> how can I have both xmms and skype running at the same time?
[06:47] <Madpilot> @bug #29760
[06:47] <turing> tho I'm pretty sure lm_sensors'll let us do it somehow
[06:47] <h3h_timo> aight well can you even get it running
[06:48] <h3h_timo> i tried to install xsensors, nothing worked
[06:48] <Madpilot> stefg, I guess Ubugtu's bug thing doesn't work in this channel...
[06:48] <h3h_timo> turing, when i ran it, i got an empty window
[06:48] <stefg> yup, seems so
[06:48] <stefg> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/29760 <- no sound with flash
[06:50] <Warbo> Help me! mldonkey-server will not install properly, so it complains whenever I use apt, and it will not even uninstall!
[06:50] <sorbix> does anyone know if it is still necessary to use the mesa drivers for xgl/compiz on an ati or did ATI fix their driver
[06:51] <Warbo> It has status "rF" in dpkg -l
[06:51] <Gixbit> Samus_Aran: it says IO fatal error when i try to initiate the GUI
[06:51] <turing> h3h_timo, I can't get it into the gnome panel so far, but use Synaptic Package Manager from System -> Administration
[06:51] <turing> h3h_timo search for wmsmpmon
[06:52] <maccam94> dauoalagio: you there?
[06:52] <Samus_Aran> Gixbit: you will need to read the log file from /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:52] <matodo> hi
[06:52] <Samus_Aran> Gixbit: at the end it will say why it didn't load
[06:52] <matodo> I have a problem with Thunderbird
[06:52] <matodo> (Tools->Options->Display->Fonts) I can't find The Arabic (Windows-1256) Encoding :(
[06:52] <Gixbit> ok time to try again
[06:52] <Gixbit> brb
[06:52] <h3h_timo> turing alright
[06:52] <matodo> Please help
[06:52] <turing> h3h_timo, install it and then run,  it's precisely what I'm looking for but it's a windowmaker widget, not a gnome one, but it'll serve for the time being
[06:53] <richiefrich> matodo  u m ight have to install more fonts ?
[06:53] <h3h_timo> thanks turing
[06:53] <maccam94> matodo: or install foreign language packs
[06:53] <matodo> no.. the fonts are already installed
[06:54] <matodo> no that isn't the problem
[06:54] <keleus> Under kubuntu, how do I get the REAL KDE control center back? (i dont like this watered-down one that comes with ubuntu)
[06:54] <matodo> The question is how to add an encoding
[06:54] <turing> h3h_timo try running with the -g 2 option, I like that graph option better
[06:54] <matodo> to Thundrbird
[06:54] <Warbo> keleus: "kcontrol"
[06:55] <h3h_timo> turing, aight jus a sec
[06:55] <Warbo> Well my installation seems to be full of problems, but I will try booting it all the same
[06:55] <maccam94> matodo: i believe you can't just add an encoding to it, i think there are packages that specifically add foreign languages and encodings to the program
[06:55] <h3h_timo> turing, how do you run it?
[06:55] <MoNkUnClE> can anyone help me with this repository issue i am having in synaptic?
[06:56] <maccam94> matodo: use Synaptic to search for Thunderbird, and look at all of the packages
[06:56] <keleus> Warbo, is there a way to permanetly and system-wide change the control back? instead of running kcontrol manually?
[06:56] <matodo> ok
[06:58] <h3h_timo> turing, got it
[06:58] <matodo> do you know a Thunderbird IRC channel ?
[06:58] <turing> night h3h, enjoy
[06:58] <MoNkUnClE> i can post it in pastebin
[06:58] <MoNkUnClE> anyone pls
[06:58] <maccam94> matodo: the closest thing i see on this server is #mozilla, but it looks unofficial and idle
[06:58] <matodo> maccam94: yes
[06:58] <matodo> what about other servers ?
[06:58] <dibblego> is it possible to have both xmms and skype running at the same time instead of fighting over the sound?
[06:58] <maccam94> i don't know. check the mozilla website, they may say under the "contact us" or "help" or some similar page
[06:59] <matodo> ok
[06:59] <matodo> maccam94: send to me a private message
[07:00] <matodo> oops
[07:00] <w1ngy> hello all
[07:00] <matodo> I need to register first
[07:00] <w1ngy> anybody wanna help with a DRE / grub error 16??
[07:00] <matodo> Thanks
[07:01] <Gixbit> In Ubuntu what is the default CLI command for viewing documents and such?
[07:01] <w1ngy> hellllooo
[07:01] <Gixbit> or *.log files.
[07:01] <w1ngy> anyone?
[07:01] <MoNkUnClE> can anyone help me qwith this repository thing it says i have multiple entries but i never added anything to my files
[07:02] <anonymeeee> nalioth: i did a man visudo, but it didn't tell me the format to put in my username and password...do you know that?
[07:02] <w1ngy> anybody wanna help with a DRE / grub error 16??
[07:02] <nalioth> anonymeeee: i'm sorry, i misread your question.  you should type "adduser --help"
[07:04] <rixth> Oh man, aMSN2 is going to use XUL Runner! Combine that with all the cool features aMSN already has (viewing/sending webcam, recording webcam conversations).. wooooww!
[07:04] <w1ngy> anybody wanna help with a DRE / grub error 16?? please?
[07:05] <Gixbit> How would I view a log file in the command line interface in Ubuntu (This is different than Slack or Fedora, etc.)
[07:05] <anonymeeee> Nalioth: I'm sorry to keep bugging you; would the command be adduser username sudoers ??
[07:05] <anonymeeee> and thank you
[07:06] <rlynch> i was wondering if i could get some assistance setting up apache. i've done lampp, apache, apache2, /etc/init.d/apache2, /etc/apache2, /usr/sbin/apache2, and none get my localhost to show index.html
[07:07] <nalioth> anonymeeee: can you join me in #ubuntu-classroom please?
[07:07] <anonymeeee> sure,
[07:08] <DanaG> aargh, useless.
[07:09] <DanaG> frickin' undocumented /lib/udev/usb_id/
[07:09] <DanaG> It has nothing to tell you what to pass in or what to expect out of it.
[07:10] <Gumby> anyone here know if ubuntu has anything like kde's kicker applet to control cpu throttling, power profiles, and hibernate scripts etc
[07:10] <raphink> Gumby: kubuntu surely does, that's for sure :)
[07:11] <Gumby> raphink: kde does, thats for sure. what about gnome
[07:11] <raphink> yes it does, too? I'm pretty sure
[07:11] <raphink> although I couldn't tell you how
[07:11] <liquidten2> Gnome-power-manager, or something of the sort.
[07:12] <DanaG> At least your throttling works.
[07:12] <h3h_timo> turing, i found the best way to view it ever
[07:12] <h3h_timo> turing, it works sweet, and looks good
[07:12] <DanaG> Mine doesn't -- it gives me "8 states" -- all are the same, full speed.
[07:13] <Lil_Shank> ive been having problems with my au8820 sound card, is there any way i would be able to pinpoint the problem?
[07:13] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: "problems" is vague.
[07:13] <Lil_Shank> i know
[07:13] <Lil_Shank> uhm
[07:13] <Lil_Shank> when i try to play any sort of audio file, theres no sound
[07:14] <Lil_Shank> also, help files ive consulted told me to enable it on the "General" tab of the Sounds preferences, and theres no General tab
[07:15] <Gumby> liquidten2: gnome-power-manager only seems to monitor battery state.  nothing to do with cpu throttling.
[07:16] <liquidten2> Under my "Add to Panel" after right clicking I have "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" available by default
[07:17] <h3h_timo> turing, anyway use gdesklets, and use the ftb-cpu-plot and it shows two different guages.. yay
[07:18] <naknomik> hello
[07:19] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: pastebin the output from ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[07:19] <naknomik> When I run lsmod, I see there are 77 modules loaded, I'm not sure all of them are really required, how are theny loaded, how do I find out?
[07:19] <Gixbit> When I try to load the GUI it gives me a "No Devices detected" (Using the command: "xinit")
[07:20] <naknomik> I see that a module fbcon is loaded, why?
[07:20] <balin_> Can anyone help me with a music player error?  I've been trying to play music using Muine or Rythmn Box and they give me the error: "There were no decoders to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[07:20] <secleinteer> does any1 know where the gaim accts info is located in ubuntu?
[07:20] <liquidten2> For the framebuffer console I would assume.
[07:20] <ubuntu> I once installed linux, I think suse, and it had a gnome folder view that let you see graphically how big the files in any folder are
[07:20] <ubuntu> does anyone know what that was?
[07:20] <stefg> balin_: what format is the music in?
[07:20] <bobbyyu> I need to know how I can set permissions to files belonging to Fat 32
[07:21] <bobbyyu> Please help
[07:21] <ubuntu> umask=0777
[07:21] <bobbyyu> Ubuntu: were you talking to me?
[07:21] <ubuntu> bobbyyu: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[07:21] <secleinteer> does any1 know where the gaim accts info is located in ubuntu?
[07:22] <dda> secleinteer, ~/.gaim ?
[07:22] <stefg> fat32 foes not support file permissions, so they can only set globally in the mount options/fstab
[07:22] <secleinteer> will check there again
[07:22] <move> dda: correct!
[07:22] <secleinteer> it worked now, thx a lot
[07:22] <balin_> oh sorry stefg, didn't see your reply...it's in .mp3
[07:23] <stefg> !codecs
[07:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:23] <move> bobbyyu: you just installed ubuntu and now you want to do something like... delete an mp3? except it won't let you?
[07:23] <dda> does anyone know, how can desktop popup menu (right click on desktop) be customized in gnome?
[07:23] <stefg> balin_: mp3 is not a completly free format, so it's not included by default. see ubotus link how to add mp3 support
[07:24] <bobbyyu> No, I want to share a file from the fat32 partition
[07:24] <Gixbit> Does anybody know why when I try to use the xinit or startx command i get an error saying No Devices detected.
[07:24] <Lil_Shank> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19540
[07:25] <Gixbit> Does anybody know why when I try to use the xinit or startx command i get an error saying No Devices detected.
[07:25] <balin_> Alright, thanks stefg
[07:25] <apeman2020> hello!
[07:25] <Ackeubu_> hey when my screen has gone black(screensaver) it goes 100% and when i activate, my processor is still 100% but top doesnt show any unusuall activity. how can i locate astray processes?
[07:25] <apeman2020> what is the command line tag for removal of a directory?
[07:26] <linux_manju> Gixbit: Its hightime you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:26] <stefg> bobbyyu: /dev/hda5    /media/fatdrive  vfat  defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0 0 would be a valid line in /etc/fstab to allow write for users on fat32
[07:26] <stefg> adjust to your needs
[07:26] <dda> apeman2020, -r
[07:27] <dda> apeman2020, man rm :)
[07:27] <apeman2020> dda: /etc/apache/ -r?
[07:27] <Gixbit> this version of linux is somewhat different than anything else such as slack
[07:27] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: your 'PCM' is set very low.
[07:27] <bobbyyu> stefg: where would I put that line of text?
[07:27] <dda> apeman2020, don't get you. why apache?
[07:27] <Lil_Shank> crimsun: It had been set high before and nothing happened
[07:28] <linux_manju> Gixbit: dunno but slack rocks in its own way ;)
[07:28] <stefg> bobbyyu: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:28] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: set it to 100% and use speaker-test
[07:28] <apeman2020> dda: using apache2
[07:28] <Gixbit> Lol
[07:28] <apeman2020> dda: dont want the empty folder hanging round
[07:28] <jnoon> im trying to apt-get install courier-imap-ssl, but it wants thinks postfix is a dependency.  is there any way to NOT install postfix (de-link the dependency)?
[07:28] <Gixbit> my Graphics chip is the "example"
[07:29] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: away for a bit.
[07:29] <dda> apeman2020, you can remove folder by using "rm" command
[07:29] <Lil_Shank> crimsun: alright
[07:29] <KonFuZed> oh man this GAIM is really hurting me
[07:30] <KonFuZed> how can I get GAIM 2.x. anything
[07:30] <apeman2020> use konversation!
[07:30] <bobbyyu> I am a Kubuntu user
[07:30] <dda> does anyone know, how can desktop popup menu (right click on desktop) be customized in gnome?
[07:32] <shwag> Can I mount a NTFS drive in ubuntu ?
[07:32] <stefg> !ntfs
[07:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:34] <blinker> I need help with compiling an app (LIRC). I keep getting a "Dialog not found" error when I try to compile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19541
[07:35] <Nuked> !fuse
[07:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:35] <Madpilot> blinker, you know that lirc is in Ubuntu's repos, right?
[07:36] <blinker> I didn't see it...
[07:36] <blinker> lemme check again
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> !software
[07:36] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:36] <thompa> ubuntu64 is working best it seems, i just tried mepis and had a bad lockup.
[07:36] <stefg> !info lirc
[07:36] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 271 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[07:36] <__chris_4> trying to get my gnome panel to have a mac os style with a animation when cursor over icon...
[07:37] <thompa> the k7 did not seem to work to well on this amd
[07:37] <__chris_4> any ideas?
[07:37] <Flannel> apeman2020: so, how do you want to use php?
[07:37] <stefg> __chris_4: not possible, you might want gdesklets
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: gnome desklets might have something like that.
[07:37] <apeman2020> flannel: yes
[07:37] <BarryAllen> __chris_4, gdesklets
[07:37] <apeman2020> Flannel: if you go to www.thecleverdog.com/phpmyadmin
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: or switch to e17 ;)
[07:37] <__chris_4> thanks barryallen and fystrtr
[07:37] <thompa> _chris_4: try compiz
[07:37] <__chris_4> thompa thanks
[07:37] <thompa> !xgl
[07:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> compiz won't work there.
[07:38] <Flannel> apeman2020: yes, eh?  Well, through CLI you'll need php5-cli, if you want to use it via apache, I suggest you look at this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:38] <thompa> but risky
[07:38] <thompa> :(
[07:38] <NoZy> hey guys
[07:38] <blinker> Madpilot:  Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>=4:3.5.2) but it is not installable
[07:38] <thompa> i dont know how to use a mac though
[07:38] <Madpilot> !info kdelibs4c2a
[07:38] <ubotu> kdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB
[07:38] <Gixbit> linux_manju: I ran the configuration utility for the xserver-xorg, and tried to startx and it failed to start "No devices Detected"
[07:38] <thompa> seems difficult
[07:39] <NoZy> till you guy I have been on most os but this is dam good
[07:39] <Madpilot> blinker, that package seems to exist, not sure why it's reading as uninstallable for you
[07:39] <__chris_4> how do i run compiz?
[07:39] <stefg> Gixbit: did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:39] <KonphuzeD> oh man was x-chat included in warty hedgehog or did I forget that I had to install it myself
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:39] <Gixbit> stefg: Yes
[07:39] <userundefine> __chris_4, use the howto above
[07:40] <Madpilot> KonFuZed, XChat was in every version up until Breezy; they left it out of Dapper, which I still think was silly
[07:40] <NoZy> good to see that moving form my old notebook to my new notebook ( from centos 4.3 to ubuntu )
[07:40] <thompa> _chris_4: what kind of card do you have
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> KonphuzeD: you have to install it yourself, unless you like the gnome-chat
[07:40] <Flannel> Madpilot: don't we all.
[07:40] <Lil_Shank> i used breezy and it had xchat inclused
[07:40] <stefg> Gixbit: and startx complains about no devices detected?
[07:40] <KonphuzeD> GAIM is very frustrating
[07:40] <Gixbit> stefg: Yes
[07:40] <__chris_4> umm I have a Quadro4 700 GoGL
[07:40] <cracko>  http://pastebin.bafserv.com/220 if anyone has any ideas it would be appreciated get it when running any python program i have tried
[07:40] <Lil_Shank> and in the dapper install...
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> KonphuzeD: personally, I recommend irssi :)
[07:40] <Madpilot> KonFuZed, gaim for irc is utterly useless :|
[07:40] <blinker> Madpilot: would kdelibs4c2 work? closest match
[07:40] <thompa> _chris_4: mine only works on nvidia or ati
[07:41] <stefg> Gixbit: what does lspci | grep VGA give you?
[07:41] <cowmilk2> how do i get more info about a particular package (scim-qtimm) in terminal?
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> blinker: are you on dapper?
[07:41] <Madpilot> blinker, are you running Dapper? That package - the one lirc wants - should be available
[07:41] <thompa> !compiz
[07:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:41] <KonphuzeD> so why is there not a dedicated irc client included in dapper
[07:41] <userundefine> cowmilk2, apt-cache search -f *package-name*
[07:41] <cowmilk2> scim-qtimm seems to be necessary for scim
[07:41] <__chris_4> so how do i run that program thompa?
[07:41] <cowmilk2> userundefine:
[07:41] <cowmilk2> thanks
[07:41] <blinker> yes, I am, but its not showing up in the list. yes, I've updated my sources
[07:41] <Flannel> KonphuzeD: it is 'included' it's not installed by default.  Someone decided GAIM was good enough.
[07:41] <thompa> _chris_4: scroll up their are the links, i dont know if its what you want
[07:41] <Gixbit> stefg: Nothing
[07:41] <KonphuzeD> im trying to use the stuff that was included just so I know what others have to deal with when I recommend they use ubuntu
[07:42] <Madpilot> KonphuzeD, because the devs thought gaim was good enough... :(
[07:42] <Gixbit> stefg: Doesn't give me anything when i use that
[07:42] <stefg> Gixbit: what hardware is it? an old ISA system?
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> cracko: sudo apt-get install python-cairo python2.4-cairo python-cairo-dev
[07:42] <DanaG> Hey, is anyone else having any trouble with udev?
[07:42] <Gixbit> stefg: Whoops case sensitive
[07:42] <KonphuzeD> Flannel, how is 'included' taken to mean 'not installed'
[07:42] <DanaG> path_id and usb_id are both returning status 1.
[07:42] <stefg> Gixbit: yes, be aware
[07:43] <thompa> this processor seems to only work on ubuntu64
[07:43] <Gixbit> stefg: ATI Technologies INC R430 [Radeon X800 XL]  (PCIe)
[07:43] <Flannel> KonphuzeD: because it's in main, it's supported software, and included on the CD even, er, as far as I know.
[07:43] <stefg> Gixbit: ahh.. a PCIe-card..
[07:43] <KonphuzeD> ok well Included in the install
[07:43] <thompa> for some reason the internet was also way flower in the 32bit version,
[07:43] <Gixbit> stefg: and 64bit
[07:43] <thompa> slower, makes no sense
[07:43] <Ch4r> Hey, I've got a quick question. When my friend tries to install Ubuntu, he gets a message saying it couldn't install the kernel (linux-386). He's installed Ubuntu from that CD before, so I don't think the CD is corrupted. Is there some way to select a different kernel to install? Or is there some other possible solution to the problem?
[07:44] <Ch4r> linux-i386*
[07:44] <Gixbit> stefg: EM64T processor as well...
[07:44] <KonphuzeD> there is not a new to linux user that considers available on the cd as part of the actual install
[07:44] <stefg> Gixbit: i guess you're in trouble with ATI on 64bit... have you read through the Howto?
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> KonphuzeD: what are you arguing about?
[07:44] <thompa> is anyone running the k7 kernel on amd64?
[07:44] <Lil_Shank> when I do a speaker test it gives me an error
[07:44] <Gixbit> stefg: no didnt think i'd have trouble with such new hardware and stuff.
[07:44] <stefg> !ati
[07:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:45] <Flannel> Ch4r: what sort of computer is he trying to install it on?
[07:45] <KonphuzeD> im not argueing
[07:45] <KonphuzeD> i was asking for clarity
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> then?
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> on what?
[07:45] <stefg> Gixbit: hardware might be _too new_ in some cases for Linux
[07:45] <Ch4r> Flannel, Dell Inspiron 1100 (laptop)... Pentium 4 proc
[07:45] <riffic> oh wow bunch of updates to gnome
[07:45] <Ch4r> 1150*
[07:45] <riffic> thanks ubuntu!
[07:45] <Gixbit> stefg: But can this still work?
[07:46] <thompa> Ch4r: are you sure its a live cd?
[07:46] <KonphuzeD> so why is there not a dedicated irc client part of the default install in dapper
[07:46] <thompa> just boot it with something else and format it
[07:46] <Ch4r> it's not a livecd, it's an installation CD...
[07:46] <bobbyyu> What's fatdrive?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> KonphuzeD: sure there is. irssi is included.
[07:46] <stefg> Gixbit: i run 32bit and nvidia.. as i see people have problems with ati on 64 bit, but i can't tell wether they can be solved
[07:47] <Gixbit> stefg: what would you recommend? 64bit or 32bit for me?
[07:47] <Gixbit> stefg: Both works I guess.
[07:47] <Madpilot> KonFuZed, if you want to join #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't really related directly to tech support
[07:47] <thompa> im running amd64 duo
[07:47] <bobbyyu> stefg,, what's fat drive?
[07:47] <Ackeubu_> hey acpid screws up my computer after screensaver has been active. what is acpid and has anyone experienced any similar issues with acpid?
[07:48] <stefg> Gixbit: as i understand people tend to use the 32bit/686-kernel
[07:48] <__chris_4> thompa i have the nvidia changed to nv but it doesnt work... looks neat tho :) would love to see it in action
[07:48] <thompa> ubuntu64 works lots better, k7 on ubuntu 32 not so good
[07:48] <thompa> _chris_4: have you installed nvidia-glx?
[07:48] <__chris_4> yes i think
[07:49] <__chris_4> how can i tell thompa?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: read the wiki entry, that will get you setup
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: also, xgl is very beta software, so don't expect it to work properly all the time.
[07:49] <thompa> go to system admin, synaptic pack. man
[07:50] <rredd4> fyrestrtr  I have a dell c810 and glx works good on here!
[07:50] <__chris_4> fyrestrtr is it worth it?
[07:50] <stefg> bobbyyu: you need to have a mountpoint for the partition. the place for that is commonly in /media. Choose a name [foo]  do sudo mkdir /media/[foo]  and state that mountpoint in /etc/fstab accordingly
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: its eye candy, if you want to wow people, then yeah.
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: practically, I don't see a difference.
[07:50] <__chris_4> :)
[07:50] <thompa> you have to look for nvidia, there is nvidia-glx first, if you have an nvidia card that is
[07:50] <move> does anyone here know who is personally responsible for writing the gnome install gui?
[07:50] <thompa> im doing that right now in fact
[07:50] <blinker> Madpilot: ok, well theres a dependency chain goin on here, so is there a way to get kdelibs4c2a back on the list?
[07:50] <move> cause I'd like to mail him a knife to stab himself in the face with.
[07:50] <__chris_4> ok thanks guys
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> move: that would be ... bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> !bugs
[07:51] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <__chris_4> ill see if my laptop card is supported...
[07:51] <__chris_4> :) thanks everyone
[07:51] <Gixbit> stefg: as well when i run this update it's doing this off the ram or off my HDD?
[07:51] <stefg> Gixbit: did not get you
[07:52] <Madpilot> blinker, I'm not sure - I don't do IR stuff, so I've never tried to install lirc
[07:52] <blinker> well I was more asking how to get kdelibs4c2a back on the install list for dapper
[07:52] <Gixbit> stefg: well theres no defined partition for ubuntu on my computer seeing as how there is no unallocated space for this partition or installed on a partition
[07:53] <blinker> because it depends on several other packages that I'd rather not track down manually
[07:53] <cowmilk2>  hi guys, I am running Xubuntu. I want to add another internal hard drive (12gb)  to my old box. How do i do that?
[07:53] <jack__> i have a amd64 cpu, but i will only run 32-bit app. k7 or 686, which kernel  is the best?
[07:53] <cowmilk2> That 12 gb hard drive currently has win 98, but I 'd like to get rid of everythnig on it
[07:53] <Madpilot> blinker, it should be there - try installing it on it's own?
[07:53] <cowmilk2> what steps should i take to make that drive my seconardy drive?
[07:53] <blinker> I did, thats how i found out about the other dependencies
[07:54] <stefg> Gixbit: the installer works off CD. If there's no partiton you can repartition your HD in the course of installation
[07:54] <Madpilot> blinker, at this point, I'd file a bug against lirc or the kdelibs package
[07:54] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell blinker about bugs
[07:54] <__chris_4> i do have nvidia-glx installed
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> __chris_4: please take xgl related questions to #ubuntu-xgl
[07:55] <Gixbit> stefg: so this update i'm doing isnt a real update unless i install?
[07:55] <__chris_4> ok
[07:55] <__chris_4> thanks
[07:55] <blinker> Madpilot: i'm fairly sure it's not a bug since i've modified sources.list
[07:55] <stefg> Gixbit: are you running from CD right now?
[07:55] <Madpilot> blinker, well, if you've got a non-standard sources.list, that's probably your problem right there
[07:55] <Gixbit> stefg: yes
[07:55] <blinker> i'll just see if i can find the security repo source and fix the problem there
[07:56] <stefg> Gixbit: then everything is temporary... all changes will be lost after reboot
[07:56] <Gixbit> stefg: thanks
[07:56] <Madpilot> blinker, you'd be far better of fixing your sources.list...
[07:56] <blinker> that swhat I mean
[07:56] <Madpilot> blinker, standard Dapper sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674
[07:56] <blinker> Madpilot: thats useful. thanks
[07:57] <dda> Please advise, how can desktop popup menu (right click on desktop) be customized in gnome?
[07:58] <stefg> dda: i guess yu'll have to hack the sources for that
[07:58] <Gixbit> stefg: my startx works now :)
[07:58] <_smd_> who _lives_ in winnipeg?
[07:58] <move> the ubuntu install freezes at "installing system"
[07:58] <move> everytime
[07:58] <stefg> Gixbit: good :-)
[07:58] <Gixbit> stefg: glitchy lol but works
[07:58] <Adam_G> hi, quick question: in fstab, what do I put as filesystem type for reiserFS?
[07:59] <Gixbit> definitly time to book mark that particular page
[07:59] <dda> stefg, that's odd.. thanks anyway. :)
[07:59] <grigora> hi, I am trying to build something from source and it requires automake 1.6.1 or greater, but the version provided by Ubuntu is only 1.4, any ideas on how to get around this? thanks
[07:59] <jack__> if i compiled the kernel myself, how to add the bootsplash(usplash?)
[07:59] <Madpilot> _smd_, try #ubuntu.ca or www.ubuntu.ca
[07:59] <cpk2> grigora: go get automake yourself as well
[07:59] <Madpilot> _smd_, sorry, #ubuntu-ca
[08:00] <stefg> Gixbit: anyway i'd recommend using the alternate (textmode) CD to install and prepare the partitions beforehand. It's easier than doing it during install
[08:00] <MoNkUnClE> hello,can anyone here help mew to get rid of an error i'm recieving concerning my repository lists in synaptic
[08:00] <_smd_> Madpilot np
[08:00] <Madpilot> MoNkUnClE, what's the exact error?
[08:00] <grigora> cpk2: looks like there is also automake1.9 available
[08:01] <cpk2> well that is bigger than 1.6.1
[08:01] <Gixbit> stefg: just looking first to see ubuntu's features
[08:01] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot i posted it on pastebin under MoNkUnClE
[08:01] <Madpilot> MoNkUnClE, which pastebin?
[08:01] <stefg> Gixbit: that's what the Live CD is intended for
[08:01] <Gixbit> stefg: indeed
[08:02] <MoNkUnClE> it's sayingsomething about duplicate entries
[08:02] <DanaG> What's the difference between bootsplash and usplash?
[08:02] <MoNkUnClE> i have only posted it once thus far
[08:02] <cpk2> Gixbit: if you are already installing it then haven't you already seen the features?
[08:02] <Gixbit> cpk2: i'm live cd atm
[08:03] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot i have posted under my nick i have only posted it once and it's been a few minutes
[08:04] <Madpilot> MoNkUnClE, can you pastebin your exact sources.list, and this time post the pastebin URL so it's easier to find, please
[08:04] <Gixbit> stefg: btw how do you change the resolution dimensions before my eye's explode lol.
[08:04] <MoNkUnClE>  sure give me one secMadpilot
[08:05] <stefg> Gixbit: System-Settings-screen resolution... check the menu
[08:06] <Gixbit> Stefg: this is so much different than slack
[08:06] <Gixbit> stefg: that and my eyes are ready to poof
[08:07] <stefg> Gixbit: i'd compare slack to a jeep and ubuntu to a BMW :-)...
[08:07] <wthww> good analogy
[08:07] <wthww> lol
[08:07] <blinker> Madpilot: well I found part of the problem. the util that i used to update sources.list inserted breezy instead of dapper
[08:08] <wthww> << spells bad
[08:08] <rredd4> debian is a yugo... lol
[08:08] <Madpilot> blinker, which util?
[08:08] <blinker> Madpilot: lemme check
[08:08] <Gixbit> stefg: if that's true i'll be using this distro
[08:08] <blinker> Madpilot: source-o-matic
[08:09] <Madpilot> blinker, the one at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic?
[08:09] <Madpilot> blinker, that still defaults to Breezy, which is a bug, but the dropdown near the top can do Dapper too
[08:10] <blinker> Madpilot: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic actually
[08:10] <blinker> but its an easy enough fix with replace
[08:10] <Madpilot> blinker, same page :)
[08:10] <blinker> Madpilot: eh well, heh
[08:10] <blinker> regardless it's fixed
[08:10] <Gixbit> hehe
[08:10] <blinker> and currently installing
[08:10] <blinker> thanks again
[08:10] <Madpilot> np
[08:11] <babo_> what's the easiest way to forward a mail that I have in my mailbox ?
[08:11] <babo_> I don't use an Xserver btw ...
[08:11] <Madpilot> whenever someone says "I'm having trouble installing <foo> from the repos", the best response is almost always, "What's wrong with your sources.list?" ;)
[08:11] <blinker> erm...
[08:11] <blinker> Madpilot: is this an error to be concerned about?: E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:12] <Madpilot> no idea, tbh
[08:12] <stefg> prolly the fontmirror is down, so the fonts can't be reached atm
[08:12] <blinker> ah, no biggie then. as long as it isn't anything thats gonna affect the app
[08:13] <thejusticecow> hi, i have kubuntu installed and i did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:13] <thejusticecow> how do i switch between desktops?
[08:13] <stefg> choose the session type ij the login greeter
[08:14] <cowmilk2> how can i install my secondary hard drive into my ubuntu pc?
[08:14] <BHSPitMonkey> hey
[08:14] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19543
[08:14] <thejusticecow> stefg: thank you
[08:14] <BHSPitMonkey> is there a way to add a keyboard shortcut for the "show desktop" feature
[08:14] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot thx again for helping
[08:15] <bobbyyu> stefg, are you there?
[08:15] <BHSPitMonkey> thejusticecow, those squares in the bottom-right represent them
[08:15] <thejusticecow> BHSPitMonkey: dont they all represent kde desktops? im talking switching between kde and gnome
[08:16] <BHSPitMonkey> ohh
[08:16] <BHSPitMonkey> do you have both installed?
[08:16] <stefg> cowmilk2: First of all see that it will be on another IDE channel than the first one (for PATA drive) then install the hardware. partition it and edit /etc/fstab to make use of it
[08:16] <thejusticecow> BHSPitMonkey: i do :D
[08:16] <BHSPitMonkey> then at the login screen, there's an option to choose your session type
[08:16] <thejusticecow> ok
[08:17] <Madpilot> MoNkUnClE, no wonder your sources are screwed up, you inflicted automatix on yourself
[08:17] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot it seemed easy at the time
[08:17] <Madpilot> MoNkUnClE, yes, it makes screwing up your Ubuntu install quite easy
[08:18] <cowmilk2> stefg: sorry, i don't understand. how do i know that it will be on anotehr ide chanell
[08:18] <cowmilk2> what's a PATA drive
[08:18] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot can i fix it at this point?
[08:18] <Madpilot> MoNkUnClE, replace your sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674
[08:18] <MoNkUnClE> Madpilot ok thank you again
[08:18] <bobbyyu> stef, holla if you hear me@
[08:18] <stefg> cowmilk2: so you have a standard  system (no SCSI, no SATA) and bought a new drive?
[08:19] <cowmilk2> stefg: it's the hard drive from my p3 500 mHz emachines box. it's not new
[08:19] <stefg> bobbyyu: so wht's the trouble :-)
[08:19] <cowmilk2> i'm adding that 12 gig drive to another old box
[08:19] <bobbyyu> I'm looking at the fstab file and can't make odds and ends
[08:19] <stefg> cowmilk2: ok... what does sudo fdisk -l tell you now?
[08:20] <cowmilk2> stefg: do you want me to do that command without that 2nd hard drive (12 gb drive) connected?
[08:20] <stefg> bobbyyu: paste the fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to let me have a look
[08:21] <bobbyyu> Done
[08:21] <cowmilk2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19544 <-- stefg, please see the result
[08:21] <stefg> cowmilk2: if it's already connected thats fine... paste the output of sudo fdisk -l to pastebin
[08:21] <cowmilk2> stefg: nope that 12 gig hard drive is NOT yet connected
[08:22] <stefg> cowmilk2: so check, that the 12Gig is jumpered as master
[08:22] <cowmilk2> stefg: how do i do that?
[08:22] <cowmilk2> and what do you mean by master?
[08:23] <stefg> look at the back, there's a jumper block. look at the top cover, there it says how to set jumpers for Master/slave/cableselect
[08:23] <rredd4> stefg he wants a second drive, should be slave
[08:24] <stefg> rredd4: but its stupid to have both drives on the same IDE channel
[08:24] <cowmilk2> stefg: i'm trying to remove this 12gig hard drive from the old box. I've removed the colorful power cable, but how about the grey, flat, wide cable? is that not removable?
[08:24] <bobbyyu> Can you see it, stefg?
[08:24] <KonphuzeD> no dont
[08:24] <stefg> cowmilk2: it is removable... but be delicate
[08:25] <stefg> bobbyyu: yes... mom
[08:25] <KonphuzeD> dont download GAIM i did nt rite that
[08:25] <cowmilk2> stefg: ok. I was wondering if I should be removing that grey flat cable from the motherboard instead
[08:25] <KonphuzeD> kewl lightning
[08:26] <KonphuzeD> and just to be clear GAIM is not some other version put out by AOL
[08:26] <KonphuzeD> ;^)
[08:26] <bobbyyu> So stef, what should I change?
[08:27] <stefg> bobbyyu: looks good, except that the nouser option will prevent you from (un)mounting the disks as user. You can access them in /media/sdaX
[08:29] <bigbill52a> it should just pop off...unless someone has glued it to the hard drive...which i have seen before....
[08:31] <cowmilk2> i've connected my digital camera via usb, how come Xubuntu isn't doing anything?
[08:31] <cowmilk2> do i need to install some software first?
[08:31] <stefg> cowmilk2: depends on the camera
[08:32] <cowmilk2> stefg: when i was in ubuntu, the camera was recorginzed
[08:32] <cowmilk2> but not in xubuntu
[08:32] <cowmilk2> could it be a problem with the usb port? if so, how ca n i check?
[08:32] <stefg> cowmilk2: you might want to install gnome-volume-manager
[08:32] <stefg> !info gnome-volume-manager
[08:32] <ubotu> gnome-volume-manager: GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.15-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 141 kB, installed size 2464 kB
[08:33] <Lil_Shank> if my speaker-test is giving me a Transfer failed: Operation not permitted error, how could i fix that?
[08:33] <stefg> !sound
[08:33] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:33] <cowmilk2> stefg: ok. before doin that, is there a way to manually mount? or is there a way to automatically mount without getting gnome stuff?
[08:34] <joeyjones> does anyone know if ubuntu live-cd has any thing like kismet?
[08:34] <stefg> cowmilk2: xfce does rely on a lot of gnome things anyway, and the daemon is small... just don't worry
[08:34] <bobbyyu> stef, the reason I want to write the permissions on the disk is that I want to share stuff from my FAT32 partition to my other Windows computer from Kubuntu mode
[08:34] <josh_frca> hello all... i run windows and linux on this system .... windows seems to work fairly fast (this is a pentium M 1.7 ghz)... linux doesn't work as fast as it should... what could i be doing wrong
[08:34] <bobbyyu> Do you understand?
[08:35] <naknomik> Is there a GNOME based equivalent for Atlantik?
[08:35] <silentread> josh_frca, did u install drivers for your hardware on your computer?
[08:35] <stefg> bobbyyu: yes, i understand. But it should be writable with an fstab like this
[08:35] <josh_frca> for linux... no i didn't
[08:35] <josh_frca> everything works fine... but when i browse the web.. it's kinda slow
[08:36] <cowmilk2> ok. i just was copying other people, who don't like to mix gnome apps into their kubuntu os, and kubuntu apps into their ubuntu os. Why do they not want to do So?
[08:36] <josh_frca> im running a dsl up to 3.0mbps
[08:36] <stefg> kubuntu > qt.... gnome/xfce > gtk
[08:36] <babo_> what's the email send command for emacs again ?
[08:36] <silentread> john_frca, is ur internet running slow, or the browser (as in system performance)
[08:37] <cowmilk2> I'm installing gnome-volume-manager, but I'm wondering: is there no Xubuntu equivalent for auto-mounting media devices?
[08:37] <josh_frca> welll the browser isnt as responsive
[08:37] <stefg> kde uses a different toolkit... but gnome and xfce share the same
[08:37] <josh_frca> dsl reports show speeds that are fairly high
[08:37] <cowmilk2> stefg: ok. i'm getting the 24 meg app now
[08:37] <silentread> josh_frca, the reason windows is running faster is b/c the drivers are telling windows how to use the hardware, while in Linux, generic drivers can not take advantage of your hardware
[08:37] <josh_frca> how do i fix that silentread???
[08:38] <silentread> josh_frca, what type of graphics card do you have?
[08:38] <stefg> cowmilk2: xubuntu is trimmed for older hardware, so a lot of things are optional
[08:38] <josh_frca> it's an integrated intel card
[08:38] <thejusticecow> if i have gnome and kde instaled can i also apt-get install xubutu and have all 3?
[08:38] <dsas> thejusticecow: yes
[08:38] <thejusticecow> dsas: thank you
[08:39] <silentread> josh_frca, what i would recommend is that you search if your hardware vendor for your graphics card makes a linux version of its driver, if so I would recommnend installing that
[08:39] <cowmilk2> stefg: i've just installed that now. and i've connected my digicam to usb but xubuntu isn't doing anything.
[08:39] <josh_frca> silentread, its a dell inspiron... ive checked their site.. they don't list anything
[08:39] <dsas> silentread, josh_frca: I think most intel integrated cards should come with proper open source drivers out of the box.
[08:40] <apeman2020> what does HTTPD run as in UBUNTU?
[08:40] <stefg> cowmilk2: you will probably have to reboot before it works
[08:40] <silentread> josh_frca, how much ram do you have?
[08:40] <josh_frca> 512
[08:40] <cowmilk2> stefg: ok
[08:41] <cowmilk2> reboot? or logout and login?
[08:41] <naknomik> Is there a gnome version of Atlantik?
[08:41] <stefg> not sure... try it
[08:41] <josh_frca> silentread, it takes forever changing from one webpage to another
[08:41] <schicken> how do I open packages after I install them?
[08:42] <thejusticecow> schicken: they should be in the k menu
[08:42] <silentread> josh_frca, hmmm. does your browser lock up?
[08:42] <thejusticecow> schicken: or in applications top left if gnome
[08:42] <josh_frca> silentread, not at all
[08:43] <schicken> they're not there
[08:43] <Gixbit> is TLS packaged on ubuntu?
[08:43] <Gixbit> with apt-get
[08:44] <naknomik> Is it possible to install .deb packages from Debian?
[08:44] <silentread> josh_frca, so how do you know its not your internet connection?
[08:44] <naknomik> Is it possible to install .deb packages from Debian in Ubuntu?
[08:45] <runes> hwo can I fix adduser so that it does not say "adduser: Only one or two names are allowed"
[08:45] <josh_frca> silentread, i know it's not my internet connection,... i get 3.0mbps with windows
[08:45] <ruxpin> how do I query packages that are in the repository, but not installed? (dpkg-query can't handle this)
[08:45] <josh_frca> i was just downloading with linux at 900 kbps
[08:45] <josh_frca> which should be pretty good
[08:45] <ruxpin> apeman2020: probably apache2
[08:46] <ruxpin> Gixbit: I think so
[08:46] <silentread> josh_frca, hmm. im srry, i dont know then
[08:46] <josh_frca> however, within the browser when i click on links, or go to new webpages it's very slow
[08:46] <ruxpin> Gixbit: apt-get install starttls
[08:47] <runes> josh_frca, grabbing it as a torrent?
[08:48] <josh_frca> no
[08:48] <runes> nice
[08:48] <josh_frca> i was just getting the java app from the sun website
[08:48] <runes> anyone know how to fix adduser so that it allows mroe than two user creation?
[08:49] <ShaunES> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77585&highlight=mysql-python
[08:49] <ShaunES> I'm having the same problem as him.
[08:49] <Gixbit> ruxpin: E: couldn't find package starttls
[08:50] <ShaunES> Does anyone know how to fix?
[08:50] <ShaunES> Surely someone has mysql-python working?
[08:50] <runes> nope php but not python
[08:51] <Gixbit> Anybody know how to compile without using ./configure
[08:51] <ruxpin> Gixbit: what repositories have you enabled?
[08:51] <cowmilk2> stefg: guess what? i didn't need to reboot. i just needed to run "gnome-volume-manager" in terminal
[08:51] <ruxpin> Gixbit: you have to .configure
[08:51] <cowmilk2> do i have to type that eery time i reboot?
[08:51] <Gixbit> ruxpin: well then that's all i need lol (This ain't no slack)
[08:51] <asdfsadf> !ati
[08:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:52] <cowmilk2> i told it to import. but the import window disappeared. maybe you're rigth. i have to reboot
[08:52] <stefg> cowmilk2: yep... so from now on the service should be started at boottime
[08:53] <Lil_Shank> uhm im missing the multimedia system selector, might that be the problem?
[08:54] <apeman2020> is it possible to list all users logged on to your machine? including ssh sessions?
[08:54] <DarkElf109> apeman2020: w
[08:54] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: gstreamer-properties
[08:54] <apeman2020> DarkElf109:  w?
[08:54] <crimsun> Lil_Shank: (from a Terminal)
[08:55] <DarkElf109> apeman2020: Yup. 'w'. Simplest command ever. Makes 'who' look verbose =P
[08:55] <stefg> the command 'w' duh!
[08:55] <apeman2020> haha
[08:55] <apeman2020> thanks.
[08:55] <DarkElf109> Np =)
[08:55] <Lil_Shank> crimsun: i got 2 errors
[08:55] <Lil_Shank> wait
[08:55] <Lil_Shank> nvm
[08:55] <apeman2020> i thought you were referring the political icon.. L:
[08:56] <Lil_Shank> ok crimsun, its telling me it skipped some plugins
[08:56] <DarkElf109> Hey, anyone in here have a CompTIA Linux+ cert? I'm considering getting one, and I'm curious if a few years' worth of heavy Linux use (mainly command line) would be enough to take it...I'm too cheap to buy a book to study for it
[08:56] <babo_> so rmail won't handle MIME types in email ???
[08:57] <stefg> DarkElf109: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <apeman2020> DarkElf109: www.torrentreactor.net
[08:57] <DarkElf109> stefg: A good portion of that time using Linux was spent in Ubuntu, I'll have you know
[08:57] <Lil_Shank> crimsun: i got an error when attempting to test the alsa
[08:58] <stefg> DarkElf109: there's nothing wrong with that, but #ubutu-offtopic is the place for that
[08:58] <DarkElf109> stefg: Bah. Fine. Was a quick question, didn't want to make much of it anyway.
[08:58] <DarkElf109> For reasons unbeknownst to myself, squid (v2.6.STABLE1) doesn't appear to be writing cached objects to disk. Instead, it replaces the in-memory objects, but cache_dir's size never changes, and the number of objects stored there remains constant. What could be causing this, and how is it fixed?
[09:02] <magick211> Hello all
[09:03] <magick211> 
[09:03] <magick211> oops
[09:03] <sam__> hello
[09:04] <artzneo> hi
[09:04] <ShaunES> Surely someone has mysql-python working on dapper?
[09:05] <artzneo> what are the channel from spanish?
[09:05] <Flannel> !es
[09:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:05] <sam__>  with mandriva is all the "extra" software online free to download?
[09:05] <artzneo> thanks
[09:06] <Flannel> sam__: this is #ubuntu, you should ask in #mandriva
[09:08] <cowmilk2> stefg: i've rebooted and still the "import photos" thing doesn't work. it just disappears after i click 'import photos"
[09:09] <stefg> cowmilk2: tht means that the application for importing them is not installed.
[09:09] <stefg> !info gphoto
[09:09] <ubotu> Package gphoto does not exist in dapper
[09:09] <cowmilk2> stefg: i see
[09:10] <Lil_Shank> error running pipeline ALSA
[09:10] <cowmilk2> what is the default Xubuntu app for importing? (or does Xubuntu just copy gnome's apps)?
[09:10] <cowmilk2> stefg: do you mean gthumb?
[09:10] <cowmilk2> i have gimp
[09:10] <cowmilk2> is gimp an importer of photos, or just an editor?
[09:11] <stefg> cowmilk2: there is an app called gphoto or something for doing that. but you've got to configure dnome-volume-manger to call the right app for the job
[09:13] <Leeif> hi i need to install SDL and SDL ttf. what are the name of those packages?
[09:13] <cowmilk2> how do i configure gnome-volume-manager?
[09:13] <stefg> !info libsdl
[09:13] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in dapper
[09:13] <Bonez56> ftw
[09:14] <vprajan> hi all..
[09:14] <sam__> Is it true that ubuntu means pork in russian folk law?
[09:14] <stefg> Leeif: apt-cache search libsdl
[09:15] <vprajan> Xgl rocks on ubuntu.. :)
[09:15] <Leeif> stefg: thx
[09:15] <Leeif> vprajan: indeed :)
[09:15] <cowmilk2> stefg how do i configure gnome-volume-manager?
[09:16] <vprajan> does Xgl needs video card? it was slow even in my 1 GB, 1.7 ghz system..
[09:16] <stefg> cowmilk2: gnome-control-center , removable media
[09:16] <vprajan> how can configure compiz..?
[09:16] <Leeif> stefg: i seem to have sdl installed. but i cant play the game Frets on Fire
[09:16] <stefg> !xgl
[09:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:17] <Leeif> stefg: http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/
[09:18] <stefg> Leeif: hard to tell... does it throw some error when started by command line?
[09:18] <vprajan> amarok failed to determine the engines.. i have installed all of them..
[09:18] <cowmilk2> stefg:  i need to install that too
[09:18] <cowmilk2> ?
[09:19] <stefg> cowmilk2: don't bother, it defaults to gthumb, so install gthumb and everything will be fine :-)
[09:19] <runes> DarkElf109, torrent and linux+ docs are your friend
 nope. 1 min. i think i need sdl ttf also
 that one wasnt installed
[09:19] <BeepAU> Ok, I got an error message which told me to boot the machine with noapix acpi=off and I did, but the old versions of ubuntu are still there and I need the space. Can anyone help me get rid of them?
[09:20] <Bonez56> packet of fags
[09:21] <Sam___0> What are your taughts on mandriva 2006?
[09:21] <BeepAU> help, anyone?
 can i pm you?
 plz
[09:22] <Sam___0> What are your taughts on mandriva 2006?
[09:23] <Madpilot> Sam___0, this is #ubuntu, not #mandriva
[09:23] <gord> Sam___0, #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic stuff
 anythis that is not ubuntu sux
 (here) :p
[09:23] <stefg> Leeif: i don't think i can help with installing the game... you've got to figure out it's dependencies by yourself
[09:24] <Leeif> stefg: ok
[09:24] <BeepAU> Ok, I got an error message which told me to boot the machine with noapix acpi=off and I did, but the old versions of ubuntu are still there and I need the space. Can anyone help me get rid of them?
[09:24] <stefg> google is your friend, maybe they run a forum
[09:24] <Sam___0> Leeif? what man
[09:24] <Leeif> stefg: the executable says: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(dirname $0) and then exec ./FretsOnFire.bin $@
[09:24] <Madpilot> Sam___0, if you just want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <Lynoure> BeepAU: old versions of ubuntu? You have multiple versions of ubuntu on your system? It's hard to advice you without know where those are installed. Usually just backup your data, empty the partition and rerun grub.
 but i want to run it in DISPLAY=:93
 what do i have to add to the executable?
[09:25] <DarkElf109> For reasons unbeknownst to myself, squid (v2.6.STABLE1) doesn't appear to be writing cached objects to disk. Instead, it replaces the in-memory objects, but cache_dir's size never changes, and the number of objects stored there remains constant. What could be causing this, and how is it fixed?
[09:25] <BeepAU> lynoure -- they're all the latest dapper drake
[09:26] <BeepAU> lynoure -- I re-installed them with noapix and acpi=off as the other wasn't working
 DISPLAY=:93 )
 ?
[09:27] <stefg> DarkElf109: read-only disk, possibly because of a broken fs?
[09:27] <BeepAU> lynoure -- how can I empty the partition and rerun grub? I'm a linux n00b
[09:27] <stefg> Leeif: i'm sorry, i can't help youz installing that
[09:27] <linux_manju> Lobster: Is it that you are trying to share the connection to internal client?
[09:27] <Lynoure> BeepAU: on different partitions? Otherwise you'll prolly just have one ubuntu with multiple booting configurations.
[09:27] <Leeif> stefg: nvm
[09:27] <Lobster> what?
[09:27] <Leeif> stefg: thx anyway
[09:27] <DarkElf109> stefg: Nope. Same fs as the rest of the system (dumb, yeah, but it's only for a few users), and it's running fine
[09:28] <BeepAU> lynoure -- I believe they're on different partitions, I can't access the files in one from another
[09:28] <stefg> Ok, one point on the list to scratch
[09:28] <linux_manju> Lobster: sorry.. Mistake.. Was talking to a guy in #iptables
[09:28] <Lobster> i don't even know what exactly an internal client is...
[09:28] <Lobster> ;)
[09:28] <linux_manju> lol
[09:28] <DarkElf109> stefg: And, at some point in the past, it did work properly. It started acting strangely a few weeks ago, and I'm not sure what changed to cause this
[09:28] <Lynoure> BeepAU: then you need to figure out which one you want to keep and where the one you want to remove is.
[09:29] <BeepAU> lynoure -- can we take this to pm?
[09:29] <stefg> DarkElf109: got rooted? :-)
[09:30] <Lynoure> BeepAU: if /msg is pm enough for you, sure
[09:30] <DarkElf109> stefg: Nope. Tripwire would've picked something up. And it's run as proxy:proxy. And it's the only part of the system that's not working as expected
[09:31] <DarkElf109> stefg: And I've tried recreating the cache_dir, changing the replacement policies of both memory and disk, changing the cache_dir type (ufs, aufs, diskd), changing the cache_dir size, anything that might impact that area
[09:31] <DarkElf109> stefg: Should've asked if the power was plugged in =P
[09:32] <stefg> lol
[09:32] <runes> How do I get adduser to allow more than two users?
[09:33] <linux_manju> runes: newuser
[09:34] <linux_manju> runes: use newusers instead of add user
[09:34] <runes> ok
[09:35] <Lil_Shank> how can i fix the problem "Error running to pipeline"
[09:35] <runes> linux_manju, it just hangs
[09:35] <stefg> DarkElf109: as i read there's #squid-users
[09:36] <linux_manju> runes: you have to do sudo newusers
[09:36] <runes> I su as root
[09:36] <runes> still no go
[09:36] <DarkElf109> stefg: I'm in #squid right now. Just thaught I'd try in here too
[09:36] <Lil_Shank> on the ALSA Multimedia
[09:36] <runes> ya I knwo the rule about su and sudo
[09:37] <linux_manju> runes: lol.. Whats the syntax you tried
[09:37] <linux_manju> can you paste it here?
[09:37] <runes> newusers
[09:37] <runes> then I tried newusers (username)
[09:38] <linux_manju> runes: nope .. you have to put all the users in a file and run newusers on it
[09:38] <runes> linux_manju, this all spanned from one simple thing
[09:38] <runes> linux_manju, I required special permissions in /etc/skel/public_html
[09:38] <crparr> Hi! Ubunti 5.06 is used as OS on my root server. What is ther correct way to upgrade it to 6.06?
[09:39] <Warbo> Can anybody help me get mldonkey running? I run "sudo mlnet" inside it's directory and I get "Exception setuid failed: Operation not permitted trying to set user_uid [107] " (the "sudo" is to let the process run as user mldonkey)
[09:39] <dooglus> runes: for i in tom dick harry; do sudo adduser $i; done
[09:39] <runes> linux_manju, so that users I created would have the correct write permissions on the config files..
[09:40] <runes> linux_manju, probme is in gnome when I created the users (no problem creating mroe than two) it would reset the permissions
[09:40] <linux_manju> runes: I am confused here.. Is it that your are trying to impement a special permissions to all newly created users or the existoing users?
[09:41] <runes> linux_manju, newly created users but not the users themselves speficically in the public_html folder files
[09:42] <runes> linux_manju, e107 requires 777 for some files to be configured
[09:42] <Warbo> !tell crparr about upgrade
[09:42] <runes> linux_manju, so I created the isntall files within public_html with the permissions  but when I create the new users it default to 755
[09:42] <linux_manju> runes: There is a file in etc.. which takes care of what adduser should do when creating a new user..
[09:43] <runes> linux_manju, I read through the adduser files itself theres' some lines which block to only creating 2 users and as for modifying it I am no so sure whjat debian (ubuntu) needs in there
[09:43] <linux_manju> runes: it defaults to 755 coz the adduser runs chown -R username.usergroup /home/username and chmod -R 755 /home/username as the last step
[09:44] <runes> oh recursive to all riles
[09:44] <runes> files
[09:44] <runes> hence the -R
[09:44] <runes> right?
[09:44] <linux_manju> runes: Yup..
[09:44] <runes> argh!!!
[09:45] <runes> so if I find the -R option and disable.....
[09:45] <linux_manju> runes: I suggest create your own script which will create the user and then chmod the file
[09:45] <linux_manju> runes: It should be pretty easy
[09:46] <runes> linux_manju, ok here I go  and to think a couple of months ago all I could do was get video working
[09:46] <linux_manju> runes: Thats cool.. good work
[09:47] <runes> linux_manju, and lots of patience from this channel
[09:48] <linux_manju> runes: thats why thi9s channel rocks :)
[09:48] <Remy> !games
[09:48] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:49] <cocos> hi, is there anyone here whit a ATI Radeon 9800 pro that installed the ati driver succesfully? or is there maybe someone who has a good HOW-TO link for me?
[09:49] <Warbo> cocos: Which driver?
[09:49] <chris86wm_> does anyone use xfce in here?
[09:49] <Warbo> Do you mean
[09:49] <cocos> Warbo: the VGA driver
[09:49] <Warbo> !ati
[09:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:49] <Warbo> (ATI cards have 3 drivers, 2 Free 1 non-Free)
[09:49] <rjian> !ping
[09:49] <ubotu> pong
[09:50] <cocos> Warbo: i heard from many people that the setup from the wiki doesnt work.. did you hear anything about that?
[09:50] <Warbo> cocos: I set up fglrx (the non-free one) on my card and it worked for 2D, but everything else screwed. I use Free driver, but I doubt it would work on your card
[09:52] <cocos> Warbo: hm oke well thanks for being so honest i need a really good guide or howto because i never done something like that before and i dont want to fuck my ubuntu up :)
[09:52] <linux_manju> runes: check out adduser scripts line no 708 through 712
[09:52] <Warbo> Can anybody help with this message I get when running mldonkey? Exception setuid failed: Operation not permitted trying to set user_uid [107] 
[09:52] <linux_manju> runes: that should help you.. IT deals with permissions
[09:53] <Warbo> cocos: I installed the non-Free driver fine, so I could probably walk you through it (not much activity in here at the moment)
[09:53] <cocos> Warbo: awsome thanks should we do that pm?
[09:53] <Warbo> Well, I don't actually get that message, mlnet just dumps me back to a console. that is at the end of the log
[09:53] <Lil_Shank> is there a way to fix the error that said "Error running pipeline 'ALSA' Could not get/set settings from/on resource  [gstalsasink.c(666): set_hwparams (): /pipeline0/alsasink1:
[09:53] <Warbo> cocos: No need, unless you really want to
[09:54] <cocos> Warbo: sorry i dont really understand dont you have time now anymore?
[09:54] <Warbo> Lil_Shank: Is that in teh multimedia system selector thing
[09:54] <cocos> Warbo: its oke then.. np
[09:54] <Lil_Shank> Warbo: yes
[09:54] <Warbo> cocos: Just saying I'm fine doing it in here, but /msg me if you really want to
[09:55] <Warbo> Lil_Shank: That seems pretty serious then :( Have you tried ESD? (that would be my first action, but I am not too knowledgable)
[09:56] <Lil_Shank> Warbo: not yet, ill try
[09:56] <Madpilot> cocos, I've got an ATI 9600XT, the non-free drivers work fine with the wiki's directions
[09:56] <Madpilot> cocos, I don't know specifically about a 9800, but that should be OK...
[09:57] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, how to get line wraps when opening a file with less in gnome terminal?
[09:57] <cocos> Madpilot: awsome thanks!
[09:58] <Lil_Shank> there were no errors on ESD but there was also no sound output...
[09:59] <davin> hi, im trying to install my graphics drivers but i get this error: http://www.pastecode.com/2482
[09:59] <Warbo> Lil_Shank: Ah, I feared as much. Well, that is the limit of my troubleshooting knowhow :(
[09:59] <arto> Some ubuntu packages are not retrieved for upgrading due to 404 ERRORS. What can I do?
[10:00] <Lil_Shank> "Warbo: Thanks anyways
[10:00] <Warbo> davin: I would recommend you don't use nvidia's own installer, use Ubuntu's
[10:00] <Warbo> !tell davin about nvidia
[10:00] <davin> Warbo: alright, thanks
[10:01] <arto> Some ubuntu packages are not retrieved for upgrading due to 404 ERRORS. What can I do?
[10:02] <Madpilot> arto, which packages, exactly?
[10:02] <arto> Madpilot: wait..
[10:02] <arto> Madpilot:  libnautilus-extension1 nautilus nautilus-data
[10:02] <davin> Warbo: I dont have Synaptic, im using Kubuntu
[10:03] <Madpilot> arto, no idea - which repo mirror are you using?
[10:03] <kidbuntu> after installing all the updates from the update manager. is it ok to upgrade now my breezy badger to 6.06 LTS from the net?
[10:03] <arto> Madpilot: all the original sources.list links are uncommented.
[10:03] <arto> Madpilot: Dapper Drake.
[10:04] <Lobster> arto, sudo apt-get update
[10:04] <Madpilot> arto, interesting - I updated my dapper box about six hours ago with no problems, using the main archive too
[10:04] <kidbuntu> arto. yep i generated a source from the sources.list and performed the update manager.
[10:04] <Lobster> if it dosent work then try it again later
[10:05] <thejusticecow> does anyone know a command to list my web hostings?
[10:05] <Warbo> davin: Adept works in basically the same way. Or use aptitude if you are hardcore :)
[10:05] <BlueEagle> arto: try the source-o-matic
[10:05] <arto> BlueEagle: What's that?
[10:05] <Lobster> www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:05] <davin> Warbo: alright =D
[10:05] <arto> Madpilot, why don't you check if those packages are installed on your system?
[10:06] <BlueEagle> arto: ubotu should have sendt you a /msg with a link
[10:06] <arto> Madpilot, or perhaps send me the links to fetch from them the sources.
[10:06] <Madpilot> arto, I know nautilus is, I'm using it right now
[10:06] <arto> BlueEagle, yes I received it, thanks ;)
[10:06] <davin> Warbo: I cant find an option to edit/add/remove repostories in Adept
[10:06] <arto> Madpilot, perhaps the versions are different.
[10:06] <davin> Warbo: repositories*
[10:06] <Madpilot> arto, they shouldnt' be, if we're both running Dapper
[10:06] <arto> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nautilus/nautilus_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:07] <Warbo> davin: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" will let you edit them manually
[10:07] <arto> Madpilot: If you can get that package from that source I just listed, you're a hero :)
[10:07] <ic56> thejusticecow: look in /etc for a file who's filename contains "http".
[10:07] <Madpilot> arto, try using the main repos instead of the Australian mirrors
[10:08] <davin> Warbo: thanks
[10:08] <Warbo> !easysource > davin
[10:08] <knopix> how do i register in the nick server
[10:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell knopix about register
[10:08] <thejusticecow> ic56: thank you
[10:09] <ic56> thejusticecow: yw.  Do you know how to use the "find" command to search?
[10:09] <thejusticecow> ic56: i do indeed
[10:09] <ic56> thejusticecow: ok. ttyl
[10:12] <azrael0> Any time wine attempts to access an opengl function, it dies. I know I have opengl support due to glxgears etc. Does anyone know a way to do a mass reinstall of all packages without resetting the system?
[10:14] <knopix> isnt there any way i can hide my ip
[10:15] <azrael0> knopix: Look up a proxy server list, run any connection you need hidden through that.
[10:15] <knopix> hmm k thnx azrael0
[10:15] <Madpilot> knopix, on Freenode?
[10:15] <Madpilot> !cloak
[10:15] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:15] <azrael0> knopix: I'd tell you how to run the connection through, but it differs depending on what type of conneciton.
[10:15] <knopix> yeah
[10:15] <knopix> on free node
[10:15] <Madpilot> knopix, see the URL the bot just posted, about getting a cloak
[10:16] <knopix> yeah
[10:17] <knopix> thnx for the help guys
[10:17] <MistaED> hey to upgrade from dapper i386 to amd64, is it as easy as just changing the sources to the 64-bit ones and doing a dist-upgrade?
[10:17] <cuqui> hi there
[10:18] <AmirMohammad> Hi, I'm going to remove gaim and install it's SVN version
[10:18] <AmirMohammad> but when I try apt-get remove gaim
[10:18] <AmirMohammad> it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop too
[10:18] <AmirMohammad> what I should to do?
[10:20] <vegiVamp> nothing
[10:20] <stefg> AmirMohammad: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it's sfe to remove
[10:21] <vegiVamp> my words exactly :-)
[10:21] <drunken-wallaby> how can i get id3-tags from ogg files via python? i'm writing a little script that generates pdf-covers with latex which works fine with mp3's but i just can't get id3-tags from oggs. anyone?
[10:22] <stefg> better ask #python
[10:22] <drunken-wallaby> stefg ok, thx
[10:23] <cowmilk2> how can i search the repo for a particular file via terminal?
[10:24] <drunken-wallaby> cowmilk2 sudo apt-cache search foo
[10:24] <AmirMohammad> ok, thx
[10:24] <cowmilk2>  drunken-wallabythanks
[10:24] <cowmilk2> drunken-wallaby:  thankns
[10:24] <drunken-wallaby> ah, looking for a file?: sudo updatedb; sudo locate foo
[10:24] <cowmilk2> yes looking for a file
[10:24] <cowmilk2> what's the diff b/w your 2 commands?
[10:24] <cowmilk2> looking for a file in repo, not on my hard drive
[10:25] <frogzoo> cowmilk2: packages.ubuntu.com - for terminal, use links etc.
[10:25] <drunken-wallaby> cowmilk2 the first command lets you look for packages in enabled repos, the second lets you search for files
[10:25] <cowmilk2> frogzoo: what's links?
[10:26] <ucordes> How can i open a *.reg file (exported from stoopid windows registry) in gedit?
[10:26] <cowmilk2> i'm looking for a program in Xubuntu that will let me import photos from my digital camera.
[10:26] <frogzoo> cowmilk2: text based web browser, also elinks & links2
[10:26] <frogzoo> & lynx
[10:28] <MistaED> ucordes: got wine installed? open it with wine's notepad, then copy-paste it out into gedit
[10:29] <ucordes> MistaED: good idea. i tried this yesterday but did not work. will try again
[10:29] <ucordes> wine notebpad
[10:29] <ucordes> wine notepad
[10:29] <ucordes> lol
[10:29] <frogzoo> cowmilk2: gthumb - but it's a gui
[10:32] <cowmilk2> frogzoo: i don't mind gui, as long as it will work in Xubuntu
[10:32] <cowmilk2> If i apt-get install foo, sometimes it will instnall ohter packages. if i do apt-get remove foo, those other packages won't be removed. so how do we do a Complete Undo?
[10:33] <lucas> buenos dias emilio
[10:34] <stefg> cowmilk2: use aptitude... it's a smarter frontend to apt, which knows which packages are only held as a dependency
[10:35] <cowmilk2> stefg: ahh. so if aptitude is better, why do i always read of "apt-get' and never aptitude?
[10:35] <user_> hello i got a question, how can i make terminal so that when i open it to have a specified size and not resize it all the time?
[10:35] <ttyfscker> ugh
[10:35] <ttyfscker> new screenshots up
[10:35] <stefg> apt-get remove foo will remove foo, but aptitude remove bar will remove bar and all the dependencies which were only there for bar
[10:35] <frogzoo> cowmilk2: because apt-get gets the job done, & is easiest to explain via irc
[10:35] <ttyfscker> if anyone wants to see em
[10:35] <ucordes> MistaED: This worked fine. Now I only need to add the file to registry in wine
[10:36] <ttyfscker> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=512
[10:36] <Emilio> lucas com a dormido yo bien
[10:36] <cowmilk2> you mean, frogzoo, that we just can't replace the word aptitude when we see the word apt-get?
[10:36] <MistaED> ucordes: a basic import should work with wine's regedit afaik, although you may need to restart regedit to see the changes i've found
[10:37] <lucas> que tal la compra de ayer en continente ?
[10:37] <ttyfscker> cowmilk2:: yea you can most usually
[10:37] <stefg> cowmilk2: apt-get is the pure command line tool... aptitude has a ncursers UI, too. so 'apt-get' is somewhat more 'orthodox'
[10:37] <frogzoo> cowmilk2: probably best you try some of these things yourself
[10:37] <ttyfscker> cowmilk2:: if its install or remove then yes..
[10:37] <ttyfscker> aptitude does searches as well
[10:38] <ucordes> MistaED: ok i'll see if it works out for me. besides i'm trying to get red alert 2 running with this. my favourite game
[10:38] <Emilio> compre bien y despues fu a recoger el coche que lo tenia en el taller repoando  un golpe
[10:38] <KoRn> amd76xrom amd76xrom_init_one(): Unable to register resource 0xffc00000-0xffffffff - kernel bug? =_=
[10:39] <MistaED> ucordes: starcraft > red alert 2 :) *shot*
[10:39] <azrael0> !es > Emilio
[10:40] <Emilio> azrae1g y tu quien eres
[10:40] <empement> anybody interested in helping a linux newbie?
[10:40] <lucas> yo en continente compro todo menos la verdura y la fruta que es mejor aqu en miralbueno
[10:40] <BrianG> is there a way to make my icons line up on the right side of my desktop rather than my left?
[10:41] <frogzoo> !helpme
[10:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:41] <MatthewV> empement, just ask your question and find out ;)
[10:41] <frogzoo> !anyone
[10:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:41] <empement> i did ask my question but noone responded, so... how can i get terminal to have a fixed size every time it starts and not resize it "manually"?
[10:42] <MatthewV> empement, gnome-terminal
[10:42] <MatthewV> ?
[10:42] <Emilio> miguel yo soy de la misma opinion no compro ni frutas ni verduras solo compro jobones y cosas as
[10:42] <stefg> empement: by editing the starter and adding a geometry parameter
[10:42] <MatthewV> what language is that?
[10:42] <Lil_Shank> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:42] <frogzoo> empement: you might like the package 'devilspie'
[10:42] <empement> and how do i do that? :S
[10:42] <tabman> I have file and I want to send it to my bluetooth cell phone ? how should I go about it. I have the dongle plugged in and ubuntu has detected the dongle
[10:42] <stefg> Emilio: wrong channel!! This is #ubuntu and not #greengrocery
[10:43] <frogzoo> no tomatoes?
[10:43] <MatthewV> empement, you have to change the launcher, so that it will launch it with the correct size, just a moment.... I'll check
[10:43] <Evil_Ed`> hi
[10:44] <MatthewV> empement, you're in ubuntu? not kubuntu...?
[10:44] <empement> ubuntu
[10:44] <MatthewV> empement, right... right click on the Applications menu and select Edit Menus...
[10:44] <lucas> los vinos suelen estar bien de precio, sobre todo cuando hay ofertas en los expositores de los pasillos
[10:45] <Emilio> etefg quien heres me gustaria conocerte
[10:45] <empement> carry on :)
[10:45] <MatthewV> empement, then find the terminal entry, in Accessories --> Terminal
[10:45] <empement> done
[10:46] <MatthewV> empement, right click and select properties
[10:46] <empement> done
[10:46] <MatthewV> empement, then, where it says command: gnome-terminal, add to the end of that --geometry=<x-size>x<y-size>
[10:47] <tabman> no one has idea of bluetooth here ?
[10:47] <stefg> !bluetooth
[10:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:47] <MatthewV> empement, where x-size and y-size are the number of characters eg 20x30 = 20x30 characters 20 characters high and 30 characters wide
[10:48] <empement> hmm checking it right now :) i will tell you if that worked in a sec
[10:49] <MatthewV> empement, you can tell what size you want it, cause when you resize a terminal window it tells you what size you are cahnging it to
[10:49] <empement> i want it at 800x600
[10:49] <empement> weird but nothing happens :S
[10:49] <Emilio> que no me viene
[10:50] <MatthewV> empement, start a terminal, change it to the size you want and look at the numbers that appear in the center when you resize it, that's what you want, as it doesn't go by pixels
[10:51] <empement> --geometry=<x-98>x<y-32>
[10:51] <empement> not working though
[10:51] <empement> :(
[10:51] <MatthewV> empement, no that'd be gnome-terminal --geometry=98x32
[10:51] <empement> gnome-terminal --geometry=<x-98>x<y-32>
[10:52] <empement> hmmm without <> ?
[10:52] <stefg> Emilio this is an english channel. Ignoring that will only make people angry and lead to a ban
[10:52] <MatthewV> empement, no, exactly as i wrote it above
[10:52] <MatthewV> --geometry=98x32
[10:52] <empement> aha :D
[10:52] <empement> thank you very much kind sir :)
[10:52] <MatthewV> empement, no probs
[10:54] <xeph> Hi all. My apt is broken. When ever I try to upgrade it gives me the ffg error: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[10:54] <ttyfscker> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/
[10:54] <xeph> When I try to install something, it lists a *bunch* of dependencies and quits.
[10:54] <ttyfscker> pretty cool site there
[10:54] <ttyfscker> got some good ideas on there
[10:54] <dxdemetriou> Can I make something to appeared the mounted partitions on Computer in Dapper? After of one update I don't know why but are disappeared, but not with fresh install.
[10:55] <KoRn> does x86_64 refer to x86's with 64bit pci slots?
[10:55] <KoRn> or just amd64 and the like that support both?
[10:56] <Amaranth> KoRn: It's AMD64 and EMT64 processors.
[10:56] <Amaranth> KoRn: x86 processors with the 64-bit extensions
[10:57] <KoRn> k.. just trying to understand anything about 64bit pci slots on linux... my damn server has one with a ide raid card thats not detected, but im too dumb to know why :P
[10:57] <cowmilk2> hey ubuntu users, what software do you use (is used) to import photos from your digital camera? I'm on Xubuntu and I want to try what you guys have
[10:58] <Lynoure> cowmilk2: cp ? :)
[10:58] <stefg> hehe
[10:58] <Lynoure> cowmilk2: my camera shows as a usb memory stick, no need for any weird programs.
[10:58] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, try gThumb
[10:59] <hyphenated> cowmilk2: I use kubuntu, and when I plug the camera in, it puts an icon on the desktop (because the camera presents as USB mass-storage) and I mount it with a click and copy same as any other kind of file
[10:59] <MatthewV> cowmilk2, i use f-spot to organise photos, it has fairly heave dependancies though (mono)
[10:59] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: so gthumb is not just an image viewer, but also a photo importer, eh?
[11:00] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, yes - File -> Import from camera (I think, it's not open right now)
[11:00] <Emilio> lkkkkkkkk
[11:00] <Siema> is flash 8 available for ubuntu yet? i cant find it in the dapper drake reps. (just flash 7)
[11:01] <Madpilot> Siema, no
[11:01] <noiesmo> read they were going straght to 9 but its not out yet
[11:01] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: i remember using that in my gnome/ubuntu days. yes. i just hope i can use that in xubuntu
[11:01] <Siema> yea i read something about that to noiesmo
[11:01] <Siema> i think it was on digg
[11:01] <noiesmo> Siema, :)
[11:02] <Emilio> Siena esta muy bien que lo escribas en ingles pero yo no lo entiendo
[11:02] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, you should be able to; it might pull in a few more libs, that's all
[11:05] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: it worked. but... is there a way to get that import screen whenevere i connect my digital camera to my Xubuntu box?
[11:05] <cowmilk2> coz at this time, this is what happens...
[11:05] <cowmilk2> I power on the digital camera. Then, i get a "Import Photos" screen. I click Import Photos, but nothing happens
[11:05] <record> installed realplay-10.0.7, found the refferrence to it in _graphics_ not audeo/video section. LOL
[11:06] <cowmilk2> I guess there is a disconnect between that Import Photos button and gThumb's import
[11:06] <noiesmo> cowmilk2, check out digikam its a nice app for getting images from cameras
[11:06] <arooni> is theere a built in way to take a screenshot with ubuntu dapper?
[11:07] <Luna-Tick> arooni - press print screen
[11:07] <cowmilk2> noiesmo: well,  think i'd have the same prob
[11:07] <Madpilot> arooni, hit the Print Screen key
[11:07] <jan1024188> thanks man it works
[11:07] <noiesmo> cowmilk2, you can add the camera i use it on  kodak ptp style cam
[11:08] <Luna-Tick> or Applications, accessories > take screenshot
[11:08] <sam__> I have decided to use ubuntu, i want to delete windows but i use sony mp3 player software to transfer songs to my mp3 player is there an alternative that will do that same thing?
[11:08] <tabman> my bluetooth dongle is detected by Ubuntu but its not detecting my bluetooth cell phone when 2 days back all was working fine
[11:08] <noiesmo> cowmilk2, what camera have you got
[11:08] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, some cameras seem to be treated differently; I know zip about digicams but I've had three or four friend's cameras plugged in here
[11:08] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: well, when i was in Ubuntu/gnome, i was using the same camera
[11:08] <cowmilk2> thus, i don' think the problem is withthe camera
[11:08] <sam__> MadPilot can you help?
[11:08] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, sounds like a Xubuntu issue
[11:09] <cowmilk2> i think it's a matter of telling Xubuntu that I'd like to import photos wiith a particular program
[11:09] <cowmilk2> just need to fill in the gap
[11:09] <noiesmo> cowmilk2, have you got gphoto and libgphoto2-2 installed
[11:09] <cowmilk2> xubuntu is already giving me that "Import Photos" window automatically when i power on the camera.
[11:09] <sam__>  I have decided to use ubuntu, i want to delete windows but i use sony mp3 player software to transfer songs to my mp3 player is there an alternative that will do that same thing?
[11:09] <Madpilot> sam__, please don't repeat
[11:10] <cowmilk2> noiesmo: yes i do, but i think i'lll be deleteing them, since gthumb does the job
[11:10] <myakis> hi all
[11:10] <sam__> hi myakis
[11:10] <noiesmo> cowmilk2, ok
[11:10] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, what does that Import Photo button do?>
[11:10] <sam__> MadPilot, Sorry
[11:10] <Luna-Tick> Sam - what happens if you plug it in?
[11:10] <cowmilk2> noiesmo: gphoto2 is all text based (terminal based). When i'm dealing wiith pics, i'd prefer a gui app
[11:10] <Madpilot> sam__, does your mp3 player get mounted as a USB device in Ubuntu?
[11:10] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: nothing.
[11:10] <cowmilk2> that's the thing
[11:10] <sam__> if i plug it in it shows as a driveusb
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> arooni: in KDE under the graphics menu I have KSnapshot, I am sure there must be a gnome equivalent
[11:10] <jcerd> hk
[11:11] <cowmilk2> it just makes the "import phono" window close down.
[11:11] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, I'd file a bug, then
[11:11] <sam__> YES it does i was so proud of ubuntu when it found it
[11:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell cowmilk2 about bugs
[11:11] <cowmilk2> is it a bug/
[11:11] <cowmilk2> ?
[11:11] <Luna-Tick> Then can't you use that?
[11:11] <jcerd> heloroom
[11:11] <Madpilot> sam__, after it mounts, can you just drag .mp3 files or whatever into it and have them usable by the device?
[11:11] <sam__> i think the sony software transfers the files as a different format to mp3
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> !screenshot
[11:11] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin
[11:11] <sam__> i dunno ill try it
[11:11] <tabman> neither is hcitool scan returning any result
[11:11] <sam__> that didnt work under windows
[11:12] <snadge> is there a way to upgrade an existing ubuntu breezy installation, to dapper but using the dapper install cd? ie.. to save downloading a lot of the packages?
[11:12] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: is that also for bugs in Xubuntu?
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> !screenshot > arooni
[11:12] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, yes, it's for all the Ubuntu project bugs
[11:12] <Luna-Tick> Snadge: which CD do you have?
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> arooni: read the ubotu PM
[11:12] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, there's also a #xubuntu channel, but it's often quiet
[11:13] <nocturn> Hi guys
[11:13] <Shinzetsu> I need to have the make command (C compiler) but I forgot the package name?
[11:13] <Madpilot> Shinzetsu, build-essential
[11:13] <snadge> Luna-Tick, im not certain.. but its the released live/install ubuntu 6.06 for intel x86 cd
[11:13] <Madpilot> !b-e
[11:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:13] <Shinzetsu> Madpilot: yeah thanks
[11:13] <nocturn> I have this Canon USB printer, it does not get linked to usblp when it connectes
[11:13] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: yes, it's quiet there. i think i should switch back to ubuntu/gnome
[11:13] <cowmilk2> but i wonder whether  my old p3 500 mhz 256 mb ram box is good enough
[11:14] <Luna-Tick> Okay snadge: the reason I ask is that the alternative CD has an option to upgrade an existing install, but the live (Desktop CD) doesn't
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> cowmilk2: so long as you have the hard disk space you can use which ever desktop you want to
[11:15] <snadge> Luna-Tick, can i manually point my apt sources.list to the installation cd? and do an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:15] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, if you could scrounge up another 256Mb (or more) of RAM for it, it should work fine.
[11:15] <Luna-Tick> As far as I know, the desktop CD is basically a way to get you set up to pull it off the internet - it doesn't have packages as such
[11:15] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, even as is, Ubuntu should run, it'll just not be very fast
[11:15] <nocturn> Is there a way to force a driver (usblp) to a specific deviceID
[11:16] <Luna-Tick> The alternative has the packages and installs them, the Desktop has them already installed on the CD, so there aren't any to point to
[11:16] <Shinzetsu> Where can I find/install the C header files that match my running kernel?
[11:17] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:17] <snadge> Luna-Tick, i think i might just use the net install, thanks for the explanation :)
[11:17] <Luna-Tick> no problem :)
[11:17] <Shinzetsu> frogzoo: thanks
[11:18] <ailean> what are the possibilities for using a windows mobile smartphone with ubuntu? i want to back up mainly but installing programs would also be useful.
[11:19] <cowmilk2> how can i find out the files that are installed when i install gnome-volume-manager?
[11:20] <ailean> search for the package and you should be able to find a web page that lists them
[11:20] <ailean> i.e. on google
[11:20] <ailean> try Google Linux
[11:20] <cowmilk2> isn't this info availabe somehere in the repo?
[11:20] <ailean> probably
[11:21] <ailean> i don't really know what i'm talking about but that's how i've done it in the past
[11:21] <ailean> mibbe come back when someone else is online
[11:21] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, check packages.ubuntu.com, it will list the depends
[11:22] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: i did apt-get install gnome-volume-manager. I did apt-get remove gnome-volume-manager, but i'm afraid it did not totally undo the install command. what can i do?
[11:22] <Dimitrije> I just installed Drapper Drake a few minutes ago and i installed modem drivers for Intel536ep. Everything was ok but i need gnome-ppp and i have it but can't install it. It says that dependencies are not satisfied. I need libgnutls11 needed and there is only libgnutls12 on system and cd.
[11:22] <frogzoo> ailean: synce - it's kind of flaky
[11:22] <frogzoo> !synce
[11:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about synce - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:23] <vprajan> google earth is very slow.. it gives error as no updated driver available..
[11:23] <DarKnesS_WolF> how to reconfigre the local settings?
[11:23] <frogzoo> !info synce
[11:23] <ubotu> Package synce does not exist in dapper
[11:23] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, check packages.u.c, then manually remove the depends - apt-get doesn't track unused packages
[11:23] <ailean> ta frogzoo - does it show any sign of being useable?
[11:23] <cowmilk2> i should never use apt-get again!
[11:23] <cowmilk2> why do i keep using it? i don't know
[11:23] <Dimitrije> Because it's extremly useful?
[11:24] <frogzoo> ailean: it's pretty bugged, you have to be persistent
[11:24] <blinker> good to know it isn't just me
[11:24] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: i found the list of depends. how do i check whether each depend is no longer being used?
[11:24] <TheKittenEater> Alright, "my brother" being the genious he is, decided to get rid of my Ubuntu partition on my laptop using Partition Magic. GRUB now fails to load and because of "my brother" I can't boot into XP. Any ideas on what to do?
[11:24] <milankalinic> hi, I have problems after update...  I can-t switch to GDM, I am getting xfce...
[11:24] <DJAdmiral> is it possible to format an external USB hard disk to the FAT32 partition?
[11:25] <ailean> frogzoo, might leave it a while then. there is demand for this kind of thing - how can I tell ubuntu about that?
[11:25] <ailean> frogzoo, through LP?
[11:25] <Madpilot> TheKittenEater, murder your brother?
[11:25] <ailean> DJAdmiral, yes
[11:25] <milankalinic> hi, I have problems after update...  I can-t switch to GDM, I am getting xfce..
[11:26] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: was it you who said i should file a bug?
[11:26] <TheKittenEater> Madpilot, I'll do that for sure, any other ideas?
[11:26] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, for the importing thing in Xubuntu? Yes.
[11:26] <cowmilk2> well, after removing gnome-volume-manager and re-logging in, i don't even get that "import photos" window to begin with.
[11:26] <Madpilot> TheKittenEater, sorry, not really. You might be able to salvage the install from a LiveCD, but that's not an area I know anything about
[11:26] <frogzoo> !info synce-serial
[11:26] <ubotu> synce-serial: SynCE connection manipulation scripts. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-3 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 120 kB
[11:26] <Dimitrije> I need libgnutls11 for gnome-ppp, there is only libgnutls12... Can someone tell me where to fint that?
[11:26] <frogzoo> finally..
[11:27] <Kibou> TheKittenEater: load up your win xp cd and do "fixmbr" in the recovery console
[11:27] <ailean> lol, cheers frogzoo :)
[11:27] <Madpilot> cowmilk2, that's not good - g-v-m handles USB sticks & such too, it's fairly vital
[11:27] <cowmilk2> so is there a way, that when i power on my digital camera, that my Xubuntu will bring up an Import PHotos window?
[11:27] <ShaunES> How do I get ncftpget?
[11:27] <TheKittenEater> Alright, thanks Kilbou I'll try that
[11:27] <DJAdmiral> what formats can i format an external hard disk to?
[11:27] <DJAdmiral> as in what filesystems?
[11:27] <ailean> cowmilk2, it should do that anyway, no??
[11:27] <cowmilk2> Madpilot: actually, i expected what i saw.
[11:27] <ailean> cowmilk2, mine does it automatically out of the box
[11:27] <Dimitrije> DJAdmiral, any format i gues...
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> cowmilk2: deborphan finds "orphaned" packages on your system. It determines which packages have no other packages depending on their installation, and shows you a list of these packages.
[11:27] <cowmilk2> ailean: you on xubuntu?
[11:27] <ailean> oh
[11:28] <ailean> sorry
[11:28] <DJAdmiral> can i format to FAT32?
[11:28] <ailean> no
[11:28] <cowmilk2> TheGateKeeper: sounds good
[11:28] <ohho1290> rpmfind.com use it
[11:28] <ailean> DJAdmiral, i believe linux refers to it as "vfat"
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> cowmilk2: if you trust it :-)
[11:28] <incandenza> DJAdmiral: use mkfs.vfat
[11:28] <Warbo> having real problems with fglrx. modprobe of Ubuntu's driver says "operation not permitted" (with sudo) and ATI's are not found (presumably not installed properly by the packages)
[11:28] <Dimitrije> DJAdmiral, with what tool are you formating it?
[11:28] <cowmilk2> TheGateKeeper: is it trustworthy?
[11:28] <Madpilot> ohho1290, Ubuntu doesn't use RPMs, please don't suggest inappropriate resources...
[11:28] <DJAdmiral> Dimitrije, incandenza: i don't know what to format it with as yet. so i can format my usb external hard disk to vfat?
[11:29] <frogzoo> ubotu synce is <reply> Details of setting up synce-serial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[11:29] <Dimitrije> I don't know what you want to keep on your hard disk.
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> cowmilk2: I have no reason to doubt it, other than the cynic in me :-)
[11:29] <cowmilk2> i see
[11:29] <ailean> DJAdmiral, the answer to your question is YES
[11:29] <DJAdmiral> Dimitrije, incandenza: if so, what is the terminal command for me to do so?
[11:29] <Bateau_> how can i change my screen ressolution?
[11:29] <cowmilk2> i'm also from now on installing all packages using aptitude
[11:29] <Dimitrije> But if you have appropriate tools you can format to any format.
[11:29] <incandenza> DJAdmiral: yes, you can do 'sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hd<whatever>' to format as FAT32
[11:29] <ailean> DJAdmiral, there are a number of tools available
[11:29] <frogzoo> !moron?
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about moron? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <ailean> !anything
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:30] <Dimitrije> Lol frogzoo !
[11:30] <DJAdmiral> incandenza, ailean, Dimitrije: THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! You guys saved my life by telling me about that command
[11:30] <ailean> DJAdmiral, np
[11:31] <Dimitrije> Can i browse ubuntu repository from other systems? I need to download something and i don't have internet in ubuntu.
[11:31] <DJAdmiral> !fat32
[11:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:31] <Luna-Tick> Dm: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <DJAdmiral> !vfat
[11:32] <Dimitrije> Thanks.
[11:32] <frogzoo> Dimitrije: you can d/l debs with any web client from the repos - the trick is getting ALL the dependencies
[11:32] <ailean> Dimitrije, there's a project in progress now to enable package installations like that, but it doesn't exist yet
[11:32] <DJAdmiral> alright thanks a million guys
[11:32] <Dimitrije> Ok thanks :) I need libgnutls11 anyone know how to find dependencies for that?
[11:32] <xeph> Hi all. My apt is broken. When ever I try to upgrade it (apt-get upgrade -f) gives me the ffg error: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6.
[11:32] <ailean> Dimitrije, should be available for edgy and will make things a LOT easier :)
[11:33] <zugu> hi all
[11:33] <Luna-Tick> Hi
[11:33] <Bateau_> how can i change my screen ressolution? it is stuck on 1024x768
[11:33] <Dimitrije> When will edgy be out?
[11:33] <Luna-Tick> October
[11:33] <frogzoo> !xorg
[11:33] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:33] <Dimitrije> Oh, there is a lot of time :)
[11:34] <ailean> Bateau_, Screen Resolution through System, but if the one you want isn't there, then you need to edit your xorg.conf file
[11:34] <Dimitrije> Why is everything in tar.gz or diff.gz?
[11:35] <amarokker_> Gasp! My system hanged- this is not the first time- wasnt doing much except playing some music- had a few pdf files open.
[11:35] <Dimitrije> Where are debs?
[11:35] <ailean> Dimitrije, what page are you on?
[11:35] <frogzoo> Dimitrije: cos you're looking in the wrong place
[11:35] <Dimitrije> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libgnutls11
[11:35] <cowmilk2> I'm going to add an old 12 gb  hard drive into my old p3 500 mHz box. http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8566/img0065na1.jpg shows some jumper info for master and slave. where do i do these changeS?
[11:35] <amarokker_> and all of a sudden, the sound just goes berserk, and the screen freezes...couldn't open the text-terminals...had to do a hard reset.
[11:35] <Dimitrije> frogzoo, then please help poor me :D
[11:35] <amarokker_> is this a known issue with dapper?
[11:36] <frogzoo> Dimitrije: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/
[11:36] <Luna-Tick> Cowmilk: those are jumpers on the hard drive itself
[11:36] <xeph> Please help! I can't install or update my computer - Apt is broken!
[11:37] <ailean> cowmilk2, older ones have a jumper on the back of the disc
[11:37] <ailean> cowmilk2, it's a little connector
[11:37] <cowmilk2> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libnotify1 <-- ailean Luna-Tick is it the one in the center?
[11:37] <Luna-Tick> ailean: only old ones?
[11:37] <frogzoo> amarokker_: 1.4.1 here, & no problems at all...
[11:37] <cowmilk2> what exactly should i do?
[11:37] <DJAdmiral> another question: ubuntu can read and write to fat32 systems right?
[11:37] <cowmilk2> i've never done this hardware thingy before
[11:37] <frogzoo> DJAdmiral: indubitably
[11:37] <ailean> Luna-Tick, i'm sure i've seen newer ones that do cable select or can be configured through bios
[11:37] <ailean> Luna-Tick, maybe i'm wrong :)
[11:37] <cowmilk2> sorry wrong link
[11:38] <ailean> Luna-Tick, all my discs have them :)
[11:38] <Luna-Tick> Me too
[11:38] <cowmilk2> http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2083/img0061nv4.jpg <-- correct link is here for back of the drive ailean Luna-Tick
[11:38] <frogzoo> Luna-Tick: DON'T use cable select - jumper for master/slave
[11:38] <DJAdmiral> thanks frogzoo
[11:38] <bioticpro> anyone here run xmame?
[11:38] <nich2chien> hi
[11:38] <xeph> !libc6
[11:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about libc6 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:38] <ompaul> !info libc6
[11:38] <Luna-Tick> ... okay frogzoo....
[11:38] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In repository main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[11:39] <amarokker_> frogzoo: me thinks its a problem with hardware as well...cause i often get a boot failure msg from grub too..had to reconnect all the hard disks on different ide ports.
[11:39] <amarokker_> the  hard disk led is always lit up- thats not a healthy sign is it?
[11:39] <Luna-Tick> I didn't recommend anyone did, but is there a reason frogzoo?
[11:39] <xeph> can somone help me fix Apt please
[11:39] <ompaul> !easysouce > xeph
[11:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysouce  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:39] <ailean> frogzoo, why no cable select?
[11:40] <ompaul> !easysource > xeph
[11:40] <ompaul> ailean, it is a broken way of doing business - and breaks with linux
[11:40] <hanswerner> is there a way to fix fonts in edgys x?
[11:40] <ailean> ompaul, ah ok. i'm set up as master/slave, but just wondered :)
[11:40] <ompaul> ailean, two disks on the one cable and its stanley laurel "ohh good bye"
[11:41] <xeph> ompaul, my sources.list file isn't broke. Whenever I try to install or upgrade I get this error: "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6" then Apt quits
[11:41] <Luna-Tick> Does it? Interesting. I've never seen any probs
[11:41] <frogzoo> ailean: I doubt cable select is supported/works properly - certaintly didn't used to, but that was a few years back
[11:41] <ailean> frogzoo, well i'll keep it in mind.  i've never used it - never saw the point when i know what setup i want.
[11:42] <hanswerner> downgrading some packge or something?
[11:42] <ompaul> frogzoo, and it did not the other day when my good friend "Brian The Great" popped in a  second drive
[11:42] <ompaul> xeph, it looks like you may
[11:43] <ompaul> xeph, it looks like you may have adjusted something and the box is not liking you, what are you trying to upgrade from and to?
[11:43] <Luna-Tick> Anyway cowmilk
[11:44] <Luna-Tick> to change the setting, you need to take that little white plastic rectangle off those prongs
[11:44] <xeph> ompaul, I just wanted to get the latest updates. I did a apt-get update, then whenever I try installing something, it keeps on listsing hundred of lines of dependencies. It says try "apt-get -f install" and when I try that, it give me that libc6 error
[11:44] <Luna-Tick> And move it to the correct prongs for what you want
[11:45] <viller> why aren't there anyone in the ubuntu-chat channel?
[11:45] <bimberi> viller: because you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:46] <ompaul> xeph, that is like you tried a newer kernel or some such do this >>apt-cache policy libc6<< and tell me which distro you are running
[11:47] <Luna-Tick> If you are looking for a really easy way to really help Ubuntu, join the popularity contest. This sends the packages you use to the Ubuntu developers so that they can put the popular ones on the CDs, give them priority when fixing bugs etc. For details on how to configure popcon, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPopularityContest - we need lots of users, especially "normal" users, before it is any use!
[11:48] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, there is no point in getting my list :-)
[11:48] <xeph> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19557
[11:48] <ompaul> none what so ever
[11:48] <Luna-Tick> ?
[11:48] <viller> bimberi: I never knew about ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, I install all the wms and any package anyone mentions that I don't know :-)
[11:49] <Luna-Tick> LOL
[11:49] <Luna-Tick> big HD
[11:49] <ompaul> y
[11:50] <ompaul> xeph, paste a full error message into the pastebin please from the command line to the finish
[11:51] <ompaul> xeph, and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list thanks
[11:51] <agresor> Hello guys.. I have Ubuntu 5.10  Brezzy.. Can i get kde from Kubuntu cd ?
[11:52] <ompaul> Agrajag, you can do this, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop if you have the space, or you can get the kubuntu CD for kde
[11:52] <cowmilk2> i still need help with the jumper stuff on hard drive. ailean, you said older hard drives have a jumper on the back of the disc. Which exacty is the "back side"? http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8331/00003zb0.jpg OR  http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5402/00002he8.jpg?
[11:52] <agresor> ompaul,  how to set in sources.list  that get that from CD and not fron net ?
[11:53] <ompaul> agresor, you put in the CD and synaptic should offer it to you
[11:53] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk: I said earlier
[11:53] <xeph> ompaul, sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19559 | error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19558
[11:54] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: you said , yes , but i'm afraind i don't understand
[11:54] <Luna-Tick>  to change the setting, you need to take that little white plastic rectangle off those prongs in http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8331/00003zb0.jpg
[11:54] <cowmilk2> you gave your answer earlier, Luna-Tick, but i need some clarifciation.
[11:54] <Luna-Tick> And move it to the correct prongs for what you want
[11:55] <cowmilk2> how do i know where the correct prong is?
[11:55] <cowmilk2> i read the table (http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8566/img0065na1.jpg) but i don't undrestand
[11:55] <Luna-Tick> Fair enough
[11:55] <cowmilk2> whois cowmilk2
[11:55] <warlocky> :P
[11:55] <Luna-Tick> Do you have a HD in there already?
[11:56] <Luna-Tick> What is this one for?
[11:56] <cpk2> doesnt setting the jumper to auto work usually?
[11:56] <park_canada> hi ?
[11:56] <cowmilk2> yes, in my box, i have a HD in there. A 6 gb drive
[11:56] <cowmilk2> cpk2: except this drive doesnt' have an auto setting.
[11:56] <Luna-Tick> So you want this for extra stoage?
[11:56] <cowmilk2> maybe because it's an old drive (p3 days)
[11:56] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: what do you mean?
[11:56] <cowmilk2> i want to use the drive as a regular drive
[11:57] <Luna-Tick> For what?
[11:57] <cpk2> cowmilk2: you arent booting from it correct?
[11:57] <cowmilk2> for putting stuff on, like my pics ,music, etc
[11:57] <ucordes> format and mount....
[11:57] <Luna-Tick> Right
[11:57] <ompaul> xeph, what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade give you?
[11:57] <Lobster> do you have 1 or 2 harddisks?
[11:57] <park_canada> hi i'm new to ubuntu i have other computer with mandriva. i have a resolution problem: the only resolution i get at the resolution manager is 640*800, but my screen is able to 1024*1280. what do i do ?
[11:57] <frogzoo> security.ubuntu.com down ?
[11:57] <Luna-Tick> then you want it as a "slave"
[11:57] <ucordes> and if it doesn't work check for correct jumper settings
[11:57] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: ok
[11:57] <ucordes> :-)
[11:57] <huerlisi> frogzoo: looks like
[11:57] <frogzoo> huerlisi: k, thx
[11:57] <Luna-Tick> Because your other is going to stay your master
[11:58] <huerlisi> frogzoo: it does respond, but takes ages...
[11:58] <Lobster> park_canada, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:58] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: so this 12gb drive is going to be a slave. but what should i do with the jumper thingies?
[11:58] <ucordes> good luck cow
[11:58] <Luna-Tick> So you want the second row in that table
[11:58] <park_canada> thanks a lot. that's it ?
[11:58] <cowmilk2> yes, second row says slave
[11:58] <park_canada> oh
[11:58] <ompaul> frogzoo, it worked from here - it is slow
[11:58] <park_canada> last time the person who did it on this computer ruined the file and we had to re install
[11:59] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: now when i look at the hard drive as it is now, it doesn't seem to reflect the jumper configs for "master".
[11:59] <cowmilk2> now you see why i'm confused?
[11:59] <ompaul> xeph, upgrades are for ubuntu to ubuntu moves - and dist upgrades more so - I will be back in 10 minutes
[11:59] <Luna-Tick> Which means that you take the white thing and slip it over two
[11:59] <Luna-Tick> Your photo's upside-down, I think
[12:00] <frogzoo> ompaul: huerlisi ah, patience it seems gets rewarded
[12:00] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: i'm looking at the table (map figure). there are 4 columns per row, yes?
[12:00] <park_canada> should i let him set the options itself ?
[12:01] <cowmilk2> first row is called PK, 2nd is CS, third is DS, and 4th is "key"
[12:01] <Luna-Tick> yes
[12:01] <cowmilk2> corect?
[12:01] <park_canada> it selects me default choices..
[12:01] <Luna-Tick> no
[12:01] <Luna-Tick> There are 4 columns + "key"
[12:01] <park_canada> should i leave it? because i dont know my bus identifier fot the video card..
[12:01] <huerlisi> frogzoo: apt gets timeouts...
[12:01] <cowmilk2> oh, yes
[12:01] <cowmilk2> and the 1st column has no label
[12:02] <Luna-Tick> Your jumper is currently in DS
[12:02] <cowmilk2> and has no black squares in any of the 3 configs
[12:02] <cowmilk2> oh i get it now
[12:02] <Luna-Tick> upside down :)
[12:02] <cowmilk2> i see a 1 pin square to the lower right of ds
[12:02] <agresor> root@agresor:/home/agresor# apt-cdrom /media/cdrom
[12:02] <agresor> E: Invalid operation /media/cdrom
[12:02] <agresor> anything wrong ?
[12:02] <Luna-Tick> exactly
[12:03] <cowmilk2> am i supposed to use some pincet/tweezers to take that thing out?
[12:03] <Luna-Tick> I use a flatblade screwdriver
[12:03] <cowmilk2> ok
[12:03] <cpk2> usually yo can get it with your fingers
[12:04] <cowmilk2> ok done
[12:04] <cowmilk2> now the hard part is attaching the cable-
[12:04] <Luna-Tick> :)
[12:04] <cowmilk2> s
[12:04] <cpk2> cables should be keyed
[12:04] <cpk2> so shouldnt be a problem
[12:04] <cowmilk2> keyed?
[12:05] <cowmilk2> you mean, they fit in only one way?
[12:05] <cpk2> they dont let you plug them in the wrong way
[12:05] <cowmilk2> ah, i see
[12:05] <cowmilk2> what about the flat, long cable thingy? it seems to be able to fit in upside down? do you know what i mean?
[12:05] <cpk2> otherwise the red line is the first pin if i remember correctly
[12:06] <lixus> latest Firefox/1.5.0.5 crashes on http://www.einslive.de/daseinslive/impressum/ if javascript is enabled. where do i report this problem ?
[12:06] <ompaul> red side to power cable
[12:06] <seamus_ie> hey all, does anyone know if it's possible to view only the last 10 days of emails in evolution?
[12:07] <ttyfscker> lixus:: it has already been resolved in 2.0beta
[12:08] <park_canada> i finished the wizrad
[12:08] <park_canada> how do i update the menu so it will show me the new resolutions?
[12:08] <Luna-Tick> lixus
[12:08] <Luna-Tick> it doesn't crash for me
[12:08] <lixus> ttyfscker: ah, cool. where do i get 2.0beta ?
[12:08] <lixus> Luna-Tick: what version are you running ?
[12:09] <Luna-Tick> And I'm just running normal Dapper
[12:09] <frogzoo> can you all please stop using the repos so I can get the latest updates? k, thx
[12:09] <wiking> hello!
[12:09] <wiking> What You can say about Cedega?
[12:09] <lixus> it worked for me as well but after upgrading firefox recently it is now crashing
[12:09] <ttyfscker> lixus:: its on the ftp
[12:09] <ttyfscker> lixus:: i can find you a link if you want me to
[12:09] <huerlisi> frogzoo: I second this call ;-)
[12:09] <nikin> frogzoo: we need that updates to
[12:09] <ttyfscker> lixus:: do you have gmail?
[12:10] <lixus> ttyfscker: yes, please find me a link
[12:10] <park_canada> ?
[12:10] <lixus> no i do not have gmail
[12:10] <ttyfscker> who here has gmail?
[12:10] <ttyfscker> i need someone to send me an invite
[12:10] <wiking> What You can say about Cedega?
[12:10] <cpk2> it seems to work pretty well for games
[12:11] <Dimitrije> Help! How to install gnome-ppp? 0.3.21 is asking for libgnutls11 (i only have libgnutls12) and 0.3.23 version is asking bor libc6 and i have it, i don't know why is refusing it...
[12:11] <hoy> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda
[12:11] <hoy> can someone test that out?
[12:11] <ttyfscker> lixus:: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0b1/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0b1.tar.gz
[12:12] <ttyfscker> hoy::  what are you trying to prove
[12:12] <frogzoo> wiking: use wine
[12:12] <exgen> ttyfscker: i can send you invite
[12:12] <NiLz> can some1 ban hoy please?
[12:12] <mcphail> hoy: you can't write to /dev/hda
[12:12] <ttyfscker> exgen:: thanks
[12:12] <hoy> why?
[12:13] <ttyfscker> hoy:: why?  anyone with sense will know what that does
[12:13] <hoy> im doing it for security purpose
[12:13] <frogzoo> hoy: have you considered that some noob trying to help out might actually do that?
[12:13] <mcphail> hoy: use dd instead
[12:13] <ttyfscker> hoy:: well dont come in here telling people to do stupid stuff
[12:13] <hoy> what's dd
[12:13] <ttyfscker> hoy:: do it your self first
[12:13] <mcphail> hoy: if you don't know, don't use it
[12:13] <ttyfscker> hoy:: it clones a device, dd that is
[12:14] <ttyfscker> exgen:: pm me and ill give you the email to send my invite to
[12:14] <Dimitrije> Help! How to install gnome-ppp? 0.3.21 is asking for libgnutls11 (i only have libgnutls12) and 0.3.23 version is asking bor libc6 and i have it, i don't know why is refusing it....
[12:15] <richiefrich> try to make a symlink
[12:15] <richiefrich> Dimitrije
[12:15] <Dimitrije> How?
[12:15] <richiefrich> Dimitrije symlink libgnutls12
[12:15] <richiefrich> where is it
[12:15] <richiefrich>  /lib ?>
[12:15] <richiefrich>  /usr/lib ?
[12:16] <Dimitrije> I don't know, maybe.
[12:16] <Dimitrije> And what to do after i do that?
[12:16] <ttyfscker> Dimitrije:: do you have something like /usr/lib/libgnutls12.so ?
[12:16] <richiefrich>  Dimitrije  find / -name *libgnutls12*
[12:16] <Dimitrije> I really don't know, i just checked in synaptic.
[12:16] <richiefrich> Dimitrije   do that
[12:16] <ttyfscker> Dimitrije:: try locate libgnutls12  first
[12:17] <richiefrich> find will get it
[12:17] <ttyfscker> will take longer though
[12:17] <richiefrich> so
[12:17] <ttyfscker> so use locate
[12:17] <richiefrich> locate only does whats in yout PATH
[12:17] <ttyfscker> no it doesnt
[12:17] <ttyfscker> locate does everything immediately
[12:18] <ttyfscker> as long as the slocate db has been updated
[12:18] <Dimitrije> Just tell me what to do after that because i can't do it right now. I had to use Windows to download packages so i can go to internet with Ubuntu.
[12:18] <richiefrich> lol
[12:18] <richiefrich> thats what i mean
[12:18] <richiefrich> Dimitrije  then
[12:18] <ttyfscker> Dimitrije:: too much trouble
[12:18] <Dimitrije> :D
[12:18] <richiefrich> Dimitrije   ln -s  /foo/libgnutls12 /foo/libgnutls11
[12:18] <park_canada> hello
[12:19] <ttyfscker> richiefrich:: he'll try that exact command and get an error
[12:19] <ttyfscker> haha
[12:19] <park_canada> how do I download from apt_get
[12:19] <richiefrich> thats why i need the  --> find  output
[12:19] <Dimitrije> apt-get install package
[12:19] <richiefrich> TTilus ^^
[12:19] <ttyfscker> park_canada:: sudo apt-get install
[12:19] <richiefrich> ttyfscker
[12:19] <Dimitrije> Yes sudo :/
[12:19] <park_canada> 10x
[12:20] <ttyfscker> richiefrich:: then sudo passwd
[12:20] <nikin> why you hate sudo
[12:20] <richiefrich> nope
[12:20] <richiefrich> i use   su -
[12:20] <ttyfscker> you cant use su without doing sudo passwd first silly
[12:20] <richiefrich> i can
[12:20] <richiefrich> im on gentoo
[12:20] <ttyfscker> well your in ubuntu chan
[12:20] <richiefrich> so
[12:20] <richiefrich> i help here
[12:21] <richiefrich> i have
[12:21] <ttyfscker> so your confusing not helping
[12:21] <ucordes> i installed some crappy acpi tool and now my shutdown and restart keys disappeard. i only can select hibernate...
[12:21] <park_canada> how do I define download sources? im looking for eclipse program
[12:21] <richiefrich> no im not
[12:21] <frogzoo> !easysource
[12:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:21] <mettledk> Hi
[12:21] <ttyfscker> exgen:: you around?
[12:22] <mettledk> If I want to assign the driver sk98lin to my ethernet instead of the sky2 driver - How do I do that?
[12:22] <ucordes> anybody knows how i get my restart and shutdown bacl? :-(
[12:22] <park_canada> i dont know if i have breezy ubuntu or other..
[12:22] <nikin> ucordes: "halt" will shutdown "reboot" will restart, sudo is needed for them
[12:22] <richiefrich> mettledk i dont think u can
[12:22] <ucordes> nikin: thanks but i want the gui way
[12:22] <lapalmabatanero> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:22] <ucordes> like clickin buttons
[12:23] <ttyfscker> well does anyone in here besides exgen use gmail?
[12:23] <ompaul> park_canada, applications - accessories - terminal and type cat /etc/lsb_release
[12:23] <ucordes> i got the following acpi packages installed: acpi, acpid and acpi-support
[12:23] <Luna-Tick> tty: why?
[12:23] <richiefrich> mettledk   does your card support both ?  or i mean do the modules support your card
[12:23] <richiefrich> ttyfscker whats up
[12:23] <ttyfscker> Luna-Tick:: i want to sign up, and i need an invite
[12:23] <park_canada> roy@roy-desktop:~$ cat /etc/lsb_release
[12:23] <park_canada> cat: /etc/lsb_release: No such file or directory
[12:23] <richiefrich> ttyfscker use your cell phone..
[12:23] <mettledk> richiefirch: yes
[12:23] <cowmilk2> ok. guys. i've moved the jumper
[12:23] <richiefrich> if u have one
[12:23] <Luna-Tick> ... this isn't really the place
[12:23] <ttyfscker> richiefrich:: i dont have a cellphone
[12:24] <mettledk> richiefrich: although the sky2 driver is somewhat defect
[12:24] <nikin> ucordes: did you uninstall that driver?
[12:24] <ttyfscker> Luna-Tick:: its 5:30 am and it shouldnt matter
[12:24] <richiefrich> mettledk what NIC ?
[12:24] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk: how'd it go
[12:24] <cowmilk2> now how do i connect this 2nd hard drive inside my box? pleas see http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3271/00001vv7.jpg
[12:24] <ucordes> no the packages i mentioned are shown when i search for acpi
[12:24] <ucordes> all 3 are installed...
[12:24] <TyeDye> my desktop locked up after trying to run xpenguins,i restarted my pc but all i can see on my desktop is the wallpaper and the panels are blank, i have managed to open the terminal and conected here thru terminal,please help
[12:24] <ttyfscker> Luna-Tick:: your making more garbage talk by explaining why i shouldnt ask something like that in here..
[12:24] <park_canada> ?
[12:24] <mettledk> richifrich: thernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8053 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[12:25] <cowmilk2> should i just connect it to the same grey/flat/ cable as the 1st hard drive?
[12:25] <ucordes> i have a tool called powersaved
[12:25] <ompaul> park_canada, using the menu ->> applications - accessories - terminal << and then type >> cat /etc/lsb_release
[12:25] <ucordes> maybe this destroys all
[12:25] <mettledk> richifrich: I downloaded the sk98lin from Marvel's homepage... works fine
[12:25] <park_canada> i installed ubuntu desktop
[12:25] <ttyfscker> for all the help i have gave in this chan id like to be able to ask something offtopic every once in a while as a general question..
[12:25] <mettledk> richifrich: If I modrpobe it manually...
[12:25] <Luna-Tick> okay tty! Sorry to offend!
[12:25] <ompaul> park_canada, that is lsb-release
[12:25] <park_canada> roy@roy-desktop:~$ cat /etc/lsb_release
[12:25] <park_canada> cat: /etc/lsb_release: No such file or directory
[12:25] <park_canada> oh
[12:25] <park_canada> ok
[12:26] <mettledk> richifrich: How does the kernel know which driver to load to each device?
[12:26] <park_canada> it worked :)
[12:26] <richiefrich> mettledk it's not the kernel
[12:26] <park_canada> its dapper
[12:26] <ucordes> nikin: when i try to uinstall powersaved, synaptic says it has to remove "gnome-desktop"
[12:26] <ompaul> park_canada, and your other question in one line is?
[12:26] <park_canada> how can i know the letter of my country ?
[12:26] <richiefrich> mettledk it's whats loading  in your  modprobe.conf
[12:26] <ucordes> nikin:which is not what i want i guess
[12:26] <ompaul> park_canada, what country
[12:27] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk: yes - same cable
[12:27] <nikin> ucordes: thats bad luck
[12:27] <richiefrich> mettledk  and what are u wanting to use ?
[12:27] <richiefrich> mettledk  what module
[12:27] <park_canada> israel
[12:27] <mettledk> richifrich: sk98lin
[12:27] <mettledk> richiefrich: sk98lin
[12:27] <ompaul> park_canada,  .il
[12:27] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: so it's okay if that 2nd drive currently has Win98 on it?
[12:27] <richiefrich> instead of ?
[12:27] <park_canada> thanks
[12:27] <ompaul> !il
[12:27] <ubotu>          
[12:27] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[12:28] <richiefrich> mettledk  instead of ?
[12:28] <ucordes> nikin: but i wanna get rid of it
[12:28] <ompaul> and just so show I am not partisan
[12:28] <ompaul> !sa
[12:28] <Luna-Tick> cow: are you planning to format it later
[12:28] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[12:28] <ucordes> nikin: any idea?
[12:28] <mettledk> richiefrich: sky2
[12:28] <nikin> !hu
[12:28] <thejusticecow> what?
[12:28] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[12:28] <ucordes> nikin: or is it a neccessary package? this powersaved
[12:28] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: well, it's unusable if i don't format it, isn't it?
[12:28] <thejusticecow> o
[12:28] <nikin> ucordes, maybe try to reinstall gnome-desktop
[12:28] <Luna-Tick> No - it will read it
[12:29] <richiefrich> mettledk  then grep for sky2..   in  /etc/modprobe.conf
[12:29] <Luna-Tick> But there would be less room on iy
[12:29] <mettledk> richiefrich: I dont have an /etc/modprobe.conf
[12:29] <ucordes> nikin:doesn't this remove other important things like my settings or other packages who depend on it?
[12:29] <Luna-Tick> so long as you don't want to boot into win 98 then that would be fine
[12:29] <ucordes> that
[12:29] <mettledk> richiefrich: but grepping in modprobe.d did not yield any resuilts either
[12:29] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: there will be less room because of win98?
[12:29] <cowmilk2> i don't want to keep anything on this 2nd hard drive.
[12:29] <richiefrich> mettledk what to u have...  /etc/mod<tab>
[12:30] <park_canada> i got a list. what do i do with it ?
[12:30] <cowmilk2> i want to clear otut he 2nd hard drive
[12:30] <nikin> ucordes: sorry, dont realy know, i usaly dont use gnome
[12:30] <mettledk> richiefrich: modprobe.d/ modules and modutils/
[12:30] <ucordes> nikin: ok so i better keep things how they are "However, it is recommended that you keep
[12:30] <ucordes> it installed, because it is used to carry out certain upgrade
[12:30] <ucordes> transitions (such as adding new packages to the system)."
[12:31] <ucordes> nikin: thanks anyways
[12:31] <park_canada> what do i do with the source-o-matic list ?
[12:31] <Luna-Tick> Cow: yes - the win98 files will take up room. You can format the drive once you get it going :)
[12:31] <richiefrich> mettledk  /etc/modules
[12:31] <mettledk> richiefrich: does not contain sky2
[12:32] <huerlisi> ttyfscker: I have gmail invites to hand out, still need one?
[12:32] <richiefrich> mettledk  look in there .. if not add sk98lin
[12:32] <richiefrich> then it will load on boot
[12:32] <ucordes> anybody else knows how i can get rid of "powersaved" without having to remove my "ubuntu-desktop", so i can get my restart and shutdown buttons back?
[12:32] <Luna-Tick> Funny - I was about to invite him :)
[12:32] <huerlisi> Luna-Tick: go for it:-)
[12:33] <park_canada> anyone, please?
[12:33] <vaurdan> hi
[12:33] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: ok. i'll worry about formating after i physically connect the hard drive into the box. thanks so much for your help.
[12:33] <vaurdan> how can i install macromedia shockwave?
[12:33] <vprajan> vaurdan: no macromedia shockware yet for linux.. :)
[12:33] <mettledk> richiefrich: I will try that
[12:33] <vprajan> AFAIK
[12:34] <mettledk> richiefrich: but I thought one could make an association like eth0=sk98lin ?
[12:34] <Warbo> !tell vaurdan about wine
[12:34] <richiefrich> mettledk u can u must make an alias
[12:34] <xeph> is ompaul around?
[12:34] <ucordes> vaurdan; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[12:34] <richiefrich> mettledk but idk what file it's in so u can take it out
[12:34] <ompaul> xeph, are you around?
[12:35] <mettledk> richiefrich: k
[12:35] <richiefrich> mettledk grep -R sky2 /etc
[12:35] <richiefrich> try that
[12:35] <ucordes> vaudran: this is a workaround with a windows emulator called "wine"
[12:35] <xeph> hi ompaul. I had to take an urgent call. Sorry for the delay.
[12:35] <ompaul> xeph,  around 30 minutes ago I said this: upgrades are for ubuntu to ubuntu moves - and dist upgrades more so
[12:35] <mettledk> richiefrich: returned nothing
[12:36] <ucordes> vaudran: but it most likely won't help you if you have mac or 64 bit
[12:36] <ompaul> xeph, I asked you to tell me what happened with >>apt-get install dist-upgrade<<
[12:36] <park_canada> can you please help me: i don't know how to define sources with the source o matic list
[12:36] <ShaunES> What the hell is this.
[12:36] <xeph> ompaul, I upgraded from breezy to dapper about a month ago using an alternate-cd-install. I've never done a dist-upgrade
[12:36] <porridge> hi
[12:36] <ttyfscker> huerlisi:: thanks but someone already sent me one
[12:36] <Arafanger> I have an icon on my desktop representing my windows partition, /dev/hda2
[12:36] <huerlisi> ttyfscker: cool
[12:36] <Arafanger> How do I change the name of that icon?
[12:36] <ompaul> xeph, go for it - it might be useful
[12:36] <richiefrich> mettledk really
[12:36] <richiefrich> mettledk  and is it a module ..  do u see it  in  lsmod
[12:36] <ucordes> park_canada: i don't know what this is but let me take a look at it. wait
[12:37] <ShaunES> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19563
[12:37] <ShaunES> What the hell is broken there.
[12:37] <ompaul> !easysource
[12:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:37] <mettledk> yes
[12:37] <park_canada> thanks
[12:37] <Arafanger> Ever since my upgrade from breezy to dapper, it's been(\n represents a newline): p>\n\n   </body>
[12:37] <Arafanger> It's really annoying.
[12:37] <park_canada> !easysource
[12:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:37] <ompaul> ShaunES, take it easy - then we can all look at it calmly
[12:37] <mettledk> richiefrich: as I began to say: I think the kernel is working out to load the sky2 module upon a request for eth0 and eht1
[12:37] <ad> latest dapper wine upgrade is unauthenticated it's saying - is it ok to proceed anyone?
[12:38] <ShaunES> I'm just wondering how it could be so broken that I can't even reboot.
[12:38] <Arafanger> Hello?
[12:38] <richiefrich> mettledk no.. if u see it in  lsmod then it's in a file someplace
[12:38] <mettledk> richiefrich: cant find it...
[12:38] <richiefrich> mettledk the kernel olny loads what modules it is told to
[12:38] <porridge> ok, I know the difference between dapper/main dapper/multiverse dapper/universe and dapper/restricted is nicely documented at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components/. but where's the difference between dapper, dapper-updates, dapper-security, dapper-proposed and dapper-backports documented?
[12:39] <Genscher> hey :)
[12:39] <ompaul> ShaunES, open the clock on the top right hand side of the screen and "syncronise"
[12:39] <ShaunES> ompaul, server install.
[12:39] <ShaunES> No GUI.
[12:39] <richiefrich> mettledk do u have an  initrd ?  in /boolt
[12:39] <porridge> I roughly feel the intent, but I would like an explicit policy behind them
[12:39] <richiefrich>  /boot ?
[12:39] <mettledk> richiefrich: yes - seems so
[12:39] <vaurdan> i need to know if my apache is running: http://www.neoplay.info/ -- can you enter in this site?
[12:39] <ShaunES> ntpdate 0.oceania.pool.ntp.org
[12:39] <ShaunES>  gives permission denied.
[12:40] <richiefrich> mettledk thats where it's in
[12:40] <Genscher> can anyone help me? I am new to ubuntu and I wonder where I can get the Octave package for Ubuntu Dapper. It doesn't show up in the package manager and also seems to have some gcc-3.4 dependence whereas dapper installs gcc4 :)
[12:40] <xeph> ompaul, paste bin keeps ongiving me errors, try this: http://ramdial.dnsdojo.net/~xeph/dist-upgrade.txt
[12:40] <richiefrich> mettledk if u roll your own kernel u wont need that
[12:40] <ompaul> ShaunES, you need to get that clock closer to reality
[12:40] <Arafanger> Genscher: Have you enabled the 'Universe"?
[12:40] <Genscher> Arafanger: you mean as package source?
[12:40] <ompaul> ShaunES, I suppose sudo on that command gives you the same
[12:40] <Arafanger> Genscher: Yes.
[12:40] <ShaunES> Yup.
[12:41] <mettledk> richiefrich: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic is a binary file, /initrd/ is empty
[12:41] <Genscher> let me check that :)
[12:41] <mettledk> richiefrich: I would like to continueing using the kernel from the rep
[12:41] <ShaunES> I can't even use date.
[12:41] <richiefrich> mettledk  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic   <-- thats like a tar file
[12:41] <ompaul> ShaunES, the three finger salute?
[12:41] <mettledk> richiefrich: k
[12:41] <richiefrich> u can uncompress that
[12:41] <ompaul> force a reboot
[12:41] <richiefrich> and edit it
[12:41] <ShaunES> Great...
[12:42] <richiefrich> mettledk but i dont know how..
[12:42] <ShaunES> How did it break anyway.
[12:42] <ompaul> ShaunES, change the time in the bios
[12:42] <Arafanger> Genscher: Also, as Gcc4 has changed the C++ ABI, it's sometimes very hairy mixing compilers.  Please stick with Gcc4 if you can, (Though, unfortunately, C++ programs also require some changes sometimes).
[12:42] <huerlisi> ShaunES: was bitten by this, more than once :-(
[12:42] <richiefrich> mettledk  i do my own.. so google  should help u from here
[12:42] <huerlisi> ShaunES: reboot was the only option...
[12:42] <Arafanger> So, how do I change hte name for an icon on my desktop?
[12:42] <ShaunES> It's correct in the bios though.
[12:42] <porridge> Arafanger: F2
[12:42] <ShaunES> Thu Aug  3 20:42:42 EST 2006
[12:42] <ShaunES> That's the right time.
[12:43] <mettledk> richiefrich: k - thanks for the help anyway....
[12:43] <ompaul> ShaunES, can you do sudo -i?
[12:43] <ShaunES> This is what I don't understand.
[12:43] <ShaunES> Nope.
[12:43] <ShaunES> "date" = Thu Aug  3 20:43:16 EST 2006
[12:43] <Arafanger> porridge: It's the one that corresponds to my windows partition, and deleting every single file in /home/arafangion hasn't restored the name.
[12:43] <void^> sudo caches your successful logins, if you change time backwards it gets confused
[12:43] <Genscher> Arafanger: i only try to find some way to install Octave :) I have no idea about dependencies (ok, updating packages sources now, having only "backport" disabled)
[12:43] <ShaunES> "sudo ls" = sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug  4 05:53:29 2006
[12:43] <richiefrich> mettledk  http://www.redhat.com/archives/kickstart-list/2001-June/msg00120.html
[12:43] <ompaul> Current time in EST: August 03 2006, 05:43:41 -
[12:43] <porridge> is the difference between dapper, dapper-updates, dapper-security, dapper-proposed and dapper-backports documented somewhere?
[12:44] <ompaul> ShaunES, ^^^ that is the right time EST
[12:44] <ShaunES> ompaul, I'm in a different time zone.
[12:44] <ShaunES> It's correct in my time zone.
[12:44] <Shinzetsu> How do I install the appropriate(?) linux headers for my kernel?
[12:44] <porridge> Arafanger: ah, in that case I don't know :P
[12:44] <huerlisi> ShaunES: it happened to me, when I worked on a system with wrong time and let NTP adjust the time
[12:44] <richiefrich> mettledk http://www.netadmintools.com/art164.html   <-- perfect u mount it  loop back
[12:44] <Arafanger> porridge: I'm just finding it very frustrating that #ubuntu can't help :(  It'd be ok if it were a Gnome problem, but it doesn't seem to be.
[12:45] <Arafanger> porridge: Heck, I'm fine installing GlibC myself!
[12:45] <ShaunES> huerlisi, so reboot it and just hope it doesn't happen again?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Shinzetsu: synaptic has them search for linux-headers
[12:45] <Nikoladze> is this #ubuntu or #ubuntu-unregged?
[12:45] <ShaunES> That seems like a pretty crappy solution.
[12:45] <ompaul> ShaunES, you need to reboot and get the ntp stuff w
[12:45] <huerlisi> ShaunES: guess so...
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Nikoladze: #ubuntu
[12:45] <Shinzetsu> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:45] <porridge> Arafanger: what does glibc have to do with it?
[12:45] <ShaunES> Just rebooted it.
[12:45] <richiefrich> mettledk then u just  copy  them to another dir.. and make another  .img
[12:46] <Nikoladze> gnomefreak: I'm in irssi and it says #ubuntu-unregged in brackets, whats all that about?
[12:46] <Skaag> my gnome is beautiful, but once in a while I load an application and the fonts are not anti-aliased, for example aMSN. It seems to have some other graphics toolkit. I heard there's some kind of workaround for such apps... anyone here can give me a direction?
[12:46] <ompaul> ShaunES, single got ntpdate working on it?
[12:46] <xeph> ompaul, did you get the last site? I think my entire-installed-applications-list-database is broken.
[12:46] <FifaFrazer> Why do I have to insert the sound modules again every time i restart ubuntu?
[12:46] <ShaunES> ompaul, huh?
[12:46] <richiefrich> mettledk u see ?
[12:46] <ompaul> xeph, sorry yes it does appear that way
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Nikoladze: when we get attacked we forward everyone not registered with freenode to #ubuntu-unregged
[12:46] <ompaul> ShaunES, single user mode and get ntpdate working on it
[12:46] <frogzoo> xeph: dpkg --get-selections    ?
[12:46] <Nikoladze> Skaag: you need to get a newer version of tcl/tk (8.5 I think) which supports AA fonts
[12:47] <park_canada> CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME WITH HOW TO USE THE SOURCE LIST ?
[12:47] <park_canada> sorry
[12:47] <Skaag> Nikoladze: thanks man
[12:47] <park_canada> for the caps
[12:47] <gnomefreak> park_canada: what is the issue?
[12:47] <richiefrich> man caps please
[12:47] <Skaag> Nikoladze: I will try to upgrade it
[12:47] <erUSUL> Skaag: afaik amsn is made with tcl/tk the version that comes with dapper does not have aa fonts... you can install a more recent version of tcl/tk though
[12:47] <Luna-Tick> !sources.list
[12:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:47] <ompaul> park_canada, click on the buttons on that web page - localise it
[12:47] <Luna-Tick> !easysource
[12:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:47] <Skaag> erUSUL: that's very helpful. I'm trying to upgrade.
[12:47] <park_canada> the problem: i have a source o matic list but i dont know how do define the sources. im from mandriva, new to ubuntu
[12:48] <xeph> frogzoo, that gives me a bunch of apps, most of which has "install" next to it
[12:48] <Nikoladze> Skaag: there'll be forum posts about it but I doubt it'll be in the normal reposotories, you might have to find some extra ones
[12:48] <gnomefreak> park_canada: define as in country code?
[12:48] <park_canada> i already got the list
[12:48] <ricardo> did any kernel update became available in the last few hours??
[12:48] <park_canada> yes
[12:48] <park_canada> its .il for israel
[12:48] <Luna-Tick> roght
[12:48] <richiefrich> !kernel
[12:48] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:48] <ompaul> frogzoo, http://ramdial.dnsdojo.net/~xeph/dist-upgrade.txt looks like some extras went in and killed it off
[12:48] <Skaag> Nikoladze: Ah, figures...
[12:48] <Luna-Tick> so you have generated a sources.list?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> park_canada: and you want ca?
[12:48] <park_canada> yes
[12:48] <park_canada> no
[12:48] <gnomefreak> no?
[12:48] <park_canada> i just got a print of a surce list
[12:48] <park_canada> how do i install it on my computer?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> park_canada:gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:49] <richiefrich> copy and paste it
[12:49] <Luna-Tick> :)
[12:49] <park_canada> a generated list, but it doesn\t installed by its own, right?...
[12:49] <Luna-Tick> We all wanted that one
[12:49] <gnomefreak> park_canada: when it opens erase everything in there and copy and paste the new list
[12:49] <Luna-Tick> :)
[12:49] <park_canada> ok
[12:49] <ompaul> park_canada, read what gnomefreak said, you need to remove the existing and add that
[12:49] <Arafanger> Ok, where is the Ubuntu bug tracking DB?
[12:49] <xeph> ompaul, frogzoo, is there no way I can just rebuild it?
[12:49] <park_canada> from the begining?
[12:49] <cpk2> lol gnomefreak
[12:49] <park_canada> ok sec
[12:49] <gnomefreak> park_canada: everything
[12:49] <Arafanger> I can't find any <censored> bug link on ubuntu's documentation.
[12:49] <ompaul> xeph, it looks very ..... interesting
[12:50] <park_canada> ok i did
[12:50] <bimberi> !bugs
[12:50] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:50] <park_canada> do i need to make any updates?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> park_canada: save and close it
[12:50] <cpk2> park_canada: now run sudo apt-get update
[12:50] <park_canada> i want to downlod ECLIPSE
[12:50] <Arafanger> Does Ubuntu have a bug tracking database?
[12:50] <park_canada> ok running
[12:50] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: i had to come back without connecting the hd.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> park_canada: after its closed run sudo apt-get update
[12:50] <ompaul> xeph, it looks to me like you took in something from somewhere else and it killed off your ability update
[12:50] <gnomefreak> !bugs > Arafanger
[12:50] <park_canada> its working
[12:50] <erUSUL> park_canada: do a backup of the old one (mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old ) and write a new one (better use source-o-matic)
[12:50] <Arafanger> park_canada: Enable Universe, and then install the eclipse package.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Arafanger: please read your pm
[12:50] <cowmilk2> because i was'nt sure which of the 3 power cables to connect
[12:50] <Luna-Tick> Cow: Why?
[12:50] <Arafanger> gnomefreak: Thanks heaps.
[12:50] <park_canada> as a mandriva user, i must say ubuntu is great.
[12:50] <cowmilk2> i'll show you a pic
[12:51] <cowmilk2> hold on
[12:51] <Luna-Tick> All the power cables are the same
[12:51] <ompaul> Arafanger, see launchpad.net
[12:51] <xeph> ompaul, that sucks :/ Last think I installed was xgl and compiz
[12:51] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: are you sure? some have more colored cables going into it
[12:51] <cowmilk2> do you know what i mean?
[12:51] <ShaunES> ompaul, I got in as root and ntpdated it.
[12:51] <Genscher> Arafanger: thank you for your help. the universe hint did the trick :)
[12:51] <park_canada> i would like to get some help installing it on MY computer (that's a friend's one). the live CD won't work for me; i burned 4. my cd reads too slow.
[12:51] <ShaunES> Any way to get ntpdate to run automatically as root every x hours?
[12:51] <Arafanger> Genscher: No problem :)
[12:51] <Luna-Tick> Not all...
[12:51] <Luna-Tick> Sorry
[12:52] <gnomefreak> paran: installing what?
[12:52] <Arafanger> ompaul: But why isn't there a single reference to a bug database of any kind on ubuntu's documentation?
[12:52] <Arafanger> ompaul: You know, that default home page Firefox is set to when you install Dapper?
[12:52] <Now_im_tiktakit> Is there a way to install ubunutu not from live cd? and better - from a USB ?
[12:52] <erUSUL> !bugs > Arafanger
[12:52] <Luna-Tick> I mean that any that fit will work
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Now_im_tiktakit: installing wha5t?
[12:52] <Luna-Tick> Sorry
[12:52] <ompaul> Arafanger, file that as a bug - and I am not joking
[12:52] <Luna-Tick> Cow: There will be a few 4-pin plugs that fit the hole
[12:52] <Luna-Tick> Any will work
[12:52] <gnomefreak> !install > TikTakiT
[12:52] <Flannel> TikTakiT: help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[12:52] <gnomefreak> stop changing you nick
[12:53] <Arafanger> ompaul: I just might.
[12:53] <ompaul> Arafanger, but before you do try system help and be sure it is not there
[12:53] <Luna-Tick> Cow - did you get that?
[12:53] <TikTakiT> Flannel: belive me i was searching the network for hours...
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !usb
[12:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:53] <gnomefreak> damn
[12:53] <TikTakiT> ok so lets say about a nromal CD
[12:53] <Arafanger> ompaul: imho, all help should be in one painfully obvious place.
[12:53] <TikTakiT> normal
[12:54] <TikTakiT> is thee a non live CD updated version ?
[12:54] <Arafanger> ompaul: As it is, it is - except for the bug database.
[12:54] <erUSUL> !alternate > TikTakiT
[12:54] <Flannel> TikTakiT: that page, has all you need.  USB, networks, smoke signals.  There are instructions for almost any medium
[12:54] <chemaja> don't most people just websearch for things these days/
[12:54] <chemaja> ?
[12:54] <cowmilk2> ah, yes, Luna-Tick. the currently installed hd is using a 4pin plug, too
[12:54] <Luna-Tick> Yes :)
[12:54] <Luna-Tick> It will be
[12:54] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick:  http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/835/00005gd9.jpg
[12:54] <chemaja> ie. google >> ubuntu bugs >> im feeling lucky >> YOWZA!
[12:55] <chemaja> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:55] <TikTakiT> thanks Flannel. checking.
[12:55] <richiefrich> chemaja  ppl are lazy
[12:55] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: now my other question
[12:55] <wiking> how to get Cedega?
[12:55] <cowmilk2> where do i put this 2nd hard drive?
[12:55] <Luna-Tick> Um... in a space :D
[12:55] <Flannel> wiking: you pay for it, and download it, yadda yadda.
[12:56] <TikTakiT> im really satisfied from it. Ubuntu rocks..
[12:56] <chemaja> richiefrich, yea i was going to look through Desktop >> Help and ubuntu.com, but I'M lazy so I hit a websearch
[12:56] <Luna-Tick> There should be a gap under/over the other hard disk
[12:56] <chemaja> OTOH, i agree that you should file a bugreport on it
[12:56] <richiefrich> chemaja i think ppl are afraid of google
[12:56] <chemaja> or search for an existing one
[12:56] <chemaja> GASP did i SAY google? ;-)
[12:56] <chemaja> s/google/websearch/g
[12:56] <chemaja> :D
[12:56] <Genscher> hm, ubuntu + firefox won't work with vmware :/ is there another internet browser?
[12:56] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: that gap is taken over by the floppy drive . see http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3051/00007pc1.jpg. above the floppy drive is a huge space, but it's for stuff like cd-rom, dvd-rom drives
[12:57] <chemaja> Genscher, opera
[12:57] <richiefrich> Genscher why not ?
[12:57] <Genscher> i get timeouts the whole time
[12:57] <wiking> Flannel, and if i don't want pay?
[12:57] <richiefrich> lol
[12:57] <Genscher> sometimes it loads a website...
[12:57] <cpk2> cowmilk2: the hdd wont mind where you put it as long as you dont shake it around =P
[12:57] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: in the photo, the thing with the pink lined grey cable attached is the 2nd hard drive that is looking for space
[12:57] <Genscher> but wget is working 100%, ping also 100%
[12:57] <Luna-Tick> Cow: What's wrong with where it is?
[12:58] <cowmilk2> it's not going to stay still
[12:58] <cowmilk2> that's the problem
[12:58] <cpk2> wiking: i heard there is a free cedega floating somewhere out there
[12:58] <chemaja> Genscher, maybe try as a different user or delete the relevant dotfiles?
[12:58] <TikTakiT> how can i make a search in the apt-get packages ? i need to find a C compiler for eclipse, but im not sure for the package name.
[12:58] <cowmilk2> and ti can't screw it into place because the holes on the metal thing are spaced out for a cd-rom/dvdrom drive, not for HDD
[12:58] <Genscher> chemaja: i will rather try another browser :)
[12:58] <richiefrich> Genscher  well ff is slow now a days..  try opera.. galeon..  flock  there's many others
[12:58] <Luna-Tick> Cow: Ah.
[12:58] <chemaja> anyone run Dapper on a P3-600/256MB or equiv, and if so is it relatively snappy?
[12:58] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: call me cowlick
[12:58] <Flannel> TikTakiT: er, gcc is what eclipse will use, via the CDT
[12:59] <zazeem> how do i delete the 17 infected files clamav found?
[12:59] <cowmilk2> nope, don't
[12:59] <cowmilk2> call me cowmilk2
[12:59] <richiefrich> TikTakiT  apt-get --help
[12:59] <richiefrich> TikTakiT  man apt-get
[12:59] <chemaja> ...say compared to Gnome 2.14 on a "lighter" distro
[12:59] <Flannel> TikTakiT: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/eclipse-cdt
[12:59] <cowmilk2> type cow, then hit your tab key
[12:59] <cowmilk2> that way i can more easily see the comments you are directing to me
[12:59] <ompaul> Arafanger, if you go to the web site under participate you can get to the bugs handy but there is no straight line that I can find
[12:59] <zazeem> how do i delete the 17 infected files clamav found?
[12:59] <ompaul> Arafanger, so what you want is a shorter path
[01:00] <cowmilk2> 8-)
[01:00] <[Kork] > hi
[01:00] <jc-denton> hi all
[01:00] <ompaul> jc-denton,
[01:00] <cpk2> rm /path/to/infected/file
[01:00] <[Kork] > i want to send a fax using DSL, is it possible?
[01:00] <zazeem> hey denton ROF;
[01:00] <jc-denton> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:00] <jc-denton>   libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libtiff4 linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-image-2.6.15-26-686
[01:00] <Shinzetsu> Is there any app which lets me make iso images of disks?
[01:00] <cowmilk2> so what do you guys suggest.
[01:00] <cowmilk2> ?
[01:00] <zazeem> u use linux?
[01:00] <jc-denton> that's what i get when doing apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:00] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk2: Well... you have a bit of a problem.
[01:00] <cowmilk2> i don't think using tape is a good idea to keep the hard drive in place. what do you think, Luna-Tick
[01:00] <jc-denton> linux-image is surely from mai
[01:00] <jc-denton> so there is something wrong..
[01:00] <zazeem> how do i delete the 17 infected files clamav found??
[01:01] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk2: you have 2 spots and three things to put in it
[01:01] <cpk2> cowmilk2: take out the floppy drive?
[01:01] <Luna-Tick> So you are going to have to have one in the wrong place.
[01:01] <zazeem> jc-denton: from et?
[01:01] <cowmilk2> cpk2: i was thinking of that
[01:01] <cpk2> cowmilk2: i think it will fit in that
[01:01] <jc-denton> et?
[01:01] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk2: That may be your best bet
[01:01] <cowmilk2> cpk2: i think so too, but where will i put the floppy drive?
[01:01] <erUSUL> Arafanger: System>Help>Community Support
[01:01] <cowmilk2> shoudl i disconnet it
[01:01] <Luna-Tick> Unless you use the floppy drive, of course...
[01:01] <cpk2> cowmilk2: you use the floppy?
[01:01] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 leave it hang by thecables.. i do that when needed
[01:01] <cowmilk2> cpk2: only in emergencies.
[01:02] <cpk2> well you can just plug it in real quick in an emergency
[01:02] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: are you referring to the floppy drive?
[01:02] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 no i meant the HDD
[01:02] <ttyfscker> i am just flattered by how much opera has changed in the past year
[01:02] <[Kork] > noone here to help me? :-/
[01:02] <richiefrich> i have to many HDD for this one case
[01:02] <ttyfscker> this is amazing
[01:02] <richiefrich> and i let them hang
[01:02] <jc-denton> zazeem: what does et mean?
[01:02] <Luna-Tick> ergh - I wouldn't let mine hang, but that is me
[01:02] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: well thats going to make the HDD very suscepticble to jarring.
[01:03] <richiefrich> if u move the case
[01:03] <richiefrich> if not it  wont
[01:03] <zazeem> jc-denton: nvm, you probably have to update your sources, www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:03] <richiefrich> i dont touch mine
[01:03] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: so you have your hdd suspended in midair?
[01:03] <richiefrich> yes
[01:03] <richiefrich> like 5 of them
[01:03] <zazeem> how do i delete the 17 infected files clamav found?? anyone know?
[01:03] <cowmilk2> is that good /
[01:03] <cowmilk2> ?
[01:03] <jc-denton> hrmm strange
[01:04] <richiefrich> they been like that for over 2 years now
[01:04] <jc-denton> zazeem: i did that of course
[01:04] <richiefrich> so i have no problems
[01:04] <richiefrich> get a bigger case
[01:04] <jc-denton> but now i don't get that error anymore
[01:04] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk2: If the box doesn't move you would be fine
[01:04] <erUSUL> [Kork] : you have asked no question, i'm supposed to take my cristal ball to see what might be your problem?
[01:04] <zazeem> jc-denton:  whats the error you get
[01:04] <jc-denton> i did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade again
[01:04] <jc-denton> see above
[01:04] <ompaul> !gide
[01:04] <fourat> hello
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about gide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:04] <[Kork] > erUSUL, <[Kork] > i want to send a fax using DSL, is it possible?
[01:04] <ompaul> !guide
[01:04] <cowmilk2> what if  slip the hdd onto an open cd/dvd drive and i put tape around the hdd?
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about guide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:04] <cpk2> zazeem: rm /path/to/infected/file
[01:04] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk2: I would probably just have the 2 HDs in there - and dangle the floppy. You can always open it up to use it in the emergencies
[01:04] <jc-denton> zazeem: 12:58 < jc-denton> that's what i get when doing apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:05] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: yeah, sounds good
[01:05] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 well i didnt know u had  open slots
[01:05] <fourat> iwould like to read my windows files in /media/[device] , it's only to root user
[01:05] <jc-denton> 12:58 < jc-denton> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:05] <jc-denton> 12:58 < jc-denton>   libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libtiff4 linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-image-2.6.15-26-686
[01:05] <zazeem> cpk2: i dont know the path i did a system scan and 17 files are infected
[01:05] <jc-denton> strange
[01:05] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  put it in 'ANY" slot
[01:05] <cowmilk2> having the floppy dangiling is better than having a hdd dangling
[01:05] <erUSUL> [Kork] : no afaics, you need a modem-fax to do that directly
[01:05] <Luna-Tick> richiefrich: he has 2 3.5inch spots
[01:05] <fourat> iwould like to read my windows files in /media/[device] , it's only to root user
[01:05] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: yes, i have open slots, but i can't screw the hdd into the slot where a cd or dvd drive should go
[01:05] <wiking> cpk2, where?
[01:05] <zazeem> jc-denton:  are you on dapper drake version?
[01:05] <chemaja> cowmilk2, not according to my girlfriend
[01:05] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 why ?
[01:05] <orangedub> cioa
[01:05] <orangedub> ciao
[01:05] <[Kork] > erUSUL, so there isn't a way using internet?
[01:06] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 screw the one  side man .. get rails
[01:06] <richiefrich> they make them
[01:06] <zazeem> cpk2: i dont know the path i did a system scan and 17 files are infected
[01:06] <jc-denton> zazeem: of course
[01:06] <ompaul> !it
[01:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:06] <cowmilk2> richiefrich:  I can't screw it into place because the holes on the metal thing are spaced out for a cd-rom/dvdrom drive, not for HDD
[01:06] <zazeem> jc-denton: dont do upgrade then, there is no newer versin
[01:06] <cpk2> zazeem: use find
[01:06] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 screw the one  side man .. get rails
[01:06] <jc-denton>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out
[01:06] <zazeem> jc-denton:  update is the only one
[01:06] <mcphail> zazeem: scroll up to see the results
[01:06] <Shinzetsu> How do I make an iso image of my cd-rom?
[01:06] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 `i have a ton of rails
[01:07] <cowmilk2> chemaja: what is that about your girlffiendr?
[01:07] <erUSUL> [Kork] : i do not know if there is some company that offers the service over internet. you can google around to find out
[01:07] <zazeem> mcphail: thee are about 1 million files when scrolling up
[01:07] <Shinzetsu> K3b can only burn images, not make one
[01:07] <jc-denton> zazeem: lol
[01:07] <jc-denton> u don't know stuff
[01:07] <frogzoo> update at 10kb/s ?! it's a conspiracy...
[01:07] <cowmilk2> rails?
[01:07] <cowmilk2> what are those?
[01:07] <chemaja> cowmilk2, nm was a crappy joke
[01:07] <erUSUL> Shinzetsu: !!!???
[01:07] <jc-denton> well i'll try later
[01:07] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 they make the 3 1/2 a  5 1/4
[01:07] <tabman> if you open sudo gedit /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
[01:07] <tabman> all of the lines in the file starts with # does that means the whole file is commented ?
[01:07] <zazeem> mcphail: is there a graphical program for noobs like me out there?
[01:07] <mcphail> zazeem: then run clamscan again, direct the output to a file and use grep on it
[01:07] <[Kork] > erUSUL, thx. at least i saved time installing various aps
[01:07] <Shinzetsu>  erUSUL: I have a CD that i want to make an *.ISO-image of
[01:08] <Luna-Tick> Shinzetsu: are you trying to make an iso on ubuntu?
[01:08] <cowmilk2> ah
[01:08] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: think you asked this same question yesterday...
[01:08] <cpk2> zazeem: use find infectedfilename
[01:08] <cowmilk2> i think i'll just have the floppy dangling
[01:08] <Shinzetsu> nope
[01:08] <mcphail> zazeem: i think there is a graphical frontend to clamscan in the repos
[01:08] <cowmilk2> ok guys
[01:08] <Shinzetsu> i have a cd that i want to backup
[01:08] <xeph> ompaul, so there's basically no way I can rebuild the database
[01:08] <wiking> is here any else game emulator without cedega?
[01:08] <cowmilk2> time to shut down the box and do some fiddling with the hardware
[01:08] <cowmilk2> thanks Luna-Tick
[01:08] <zazeem> mcphail: i just dloaded a bunch ill see
[01:08] <Dimitrije> Hello, i managed to connect from ubuntu to the internet and did apt-get update but when i get into synaptic nothing is updated. I see only pakages from DVD?
[01:08] <Luna-Tick> Shinzetsu: as an iso
[01:08] <erUSUL> Shinzetsu: cat /dev/hdxx > image.iso or dd if=/dev/hdxx of=image.iso
[01:08] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=blah.iso bs=10000000
[01:08] <cowmilk2> thankns richiefrich
[01:08] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 why u need the floppy ?
[01:08] <orangedub> aieve  a problem uit ubuntu
[01:08] <Luna-Tick> cowmilk2: are you off?
[01:08] <nikin> Shinzetsu k9copy will do it
[01:08] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  np man
[01:08] <Shinzetsu> thanks
[01:09] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: i don't. it's just in case
[01:09] <Luna-Tick> Shinzetsu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD
[01:09] <cowmilk2> Luna-Tick: yes, the comp i'm using now to chat with you is the comp that is being worked on
[01:09] <orangedub> yu can help mi
[01:09] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  bahh i have an .img of a dos disc i use
[01:09] <tabman> if you open sudo gedit /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf, all of the lines in the file starts with # does that means the whole file is commented ?
[01:09] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 load it right in grub
[01:09] <orangedub> ?
[01:09] <TikTakiT> thanks a lot for everything
[01:09] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: what are you talking about?
[01:10] <Ghagge> anyone who knows if its possible to specify what packets to install when doing a new installation of ubuntu?
[01:10] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 that just incase.. u said u need the floppy for
[01:10] <richiefrich> thats what
[01:10] <mcphail> zazeem: running clamscan with the "-i" flag only prints infected files
[01:10] <Dimitrije> Hello, i managed to connect from ubuntu to the internet and did apt-get update but when i get into synaptic nothing is updated. I see only pakages from DVD?
[01:10] <cowmilk2> just in case i need to copy a file from a floppy and bring the floppy to  a friend or to a photocopy center
[01:10] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  it's a img of a floppy .. i boot it from grub..
[01:11] <zazeem> mcphail: thanks
[01:11] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 ahh i have a  2.5 usb hdd for that
[01:11] <cowmilk2> ok. gotta work on the hadrare now
[01:11] <cowmilk2> bye
[01:11] <vprajan> i have a beetex ADSL modem with USB port.. how to use this in ubuntu?
[01:11] <Luna-Tick> bye
[01:11] <Ghagge> anyone who knows if its possible to specify what packets to install when doing a new installation of ubuntu?
[01:11] <vprajan> sorry beetel
[01:11] <dpupp> is it possible to rebuild an ubuntu install back to a clean install without having to use CD-rom ie network only?
[01:12] <Luna-Tick> I'm off too. See you all.
[01:12] <vprajan> i have a beetel ADSL modem with USB port.. how to use this in ubuntu?
[01:12] <zazeem> mcphail: thanks much always great to get suport from here :)
[01:12] <visik7> dpupp: boot from network or usb and then installing via nfs
[01:12] <richiefrich> vprajan boot the liveCD    does it pick up net connection
[01:12] <visik7> vprajan: depend on the modem
[01:12] <mcphail> zazeem: np
[01:13] <vprajan> richiefrich: no only ethernet cable works
[01:13] <richiefrich> it should work like  eth0
[01:13] <vprajan> richiefrich: no usb is not even detected..
[01:13] <richiefrich> vprajan boot knoppix and test it there
[01:13] <visik7> vprajan: which modem is ?
[01:13] <TikTakiT> i can't switch keyboard layout...
[01:13] <richiefrich> i bet knoppix picks it up
[01:13] <vprajan> visik7: beetel 240X..
[01:13] <dpupp> visik7, thanks.
[01:14] <ompaul> xeph, sorry did not notice that there - I don't think so - it looks like you used something non ubuntu and it played havoc with you
[01:14] <vprajan> richiefrich: hmm.. i have to try that..
[01:14] <richiefrich> vprajan do the knoppix thing then do an lsmod and look for the module
[01:14] <Shinzetsu> #
[01:14] <Shinzetsu> Right-click the icon of the CD
[01:14] <Shinzetsu> #
[01:14] <Shinzetsu> Select "Copy Disc..."
[01:14] <visik7> vprajan: have u already googled fot it ?
[01:14] <Shinzetsu> I dont have that
[01:14] <richiefrich> vprajan  then load that module on boot
[01:14] <xeph> ompaul, damn. Thanks for your help
[01:15] <richiefrich> it's in the usb network section in the menuconfig
[01:15] <vprajan> visik7: yeah google.. for everyone the same problem... r u an indian.. i use airtel connection..
[01:15] <visik7> no I'm italian
[01:15] <TikTakiT> whe i try to configure it i get a bug
[01:15] <vprajan> richiefrich: load which module.. can specify plz..
[01:15] <richiefrich> vprajan idk thats why  i said knoppix
[01:15] <richiefrich> :P
[01:15] <richiefrich> then it will tell u
[01:16] <Arafanger> erUSUL: It didn't cross my mind to think of it as "Community Support", I was just looking for a bug tracking db.  I must say I'm used to Debian.
[01:16] <richiefrich> lsmod in knoppix if u get network
[01:16] <TikTakiT> rror activating XKB configuration.
[01:16] <TikTakiT> It can happen under various circumstances:
[01:16] <TikTakiT> - a bug in libxklavier library
[01:16] <TikTakiT> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[01:16] <TikTakiT> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[01:16] <TikTakiT> X server version data:
[01:16] <TikTakiT> The X.Org Foundation
[01:16] <TikTakiT> 70000000
[01:16] <TikTakiT> sorry!!!
[01:16] <richiefrich> TikTakiT MAN pastebin please
[01:16] <ompaul> TikTakiT, I take it you are finished
[01:16] <TikTakiT> MAN pastebin
[01:16] <richiefrich> omnipath u will never know :P
[01:16] <vprajan> visik7: actually DSL modem is detected with ethernet cable.. but not with USB cable..
[01:16] <ompaul> richiefrich, no point it has to be !paste > username
[01:17] <richiefrich> ompaul ahh
[01:17] <dxdemetriou> what can I do if grub stop working on Dapper?
[01:17] <visik7> vprajan: use it with the ethernet what's the problem ?
[01:17] <vprajan> !paste > username
[01:17] <TyeDye> i tried to run xpeguins and it locked up my desktop after restarting my pc the only thing showing is my wallpaper,i was able to connect here thru terminal but thats about it,help
[01:17] <ompaul> !bot > vprajan
[01:17] <ompaul> vprajan, read the message from the bot please
[01:17] <richiefrich> !paste > TikTakiT
[01:18] <vprajan> ompaul: did
[01:18] <richiefrich> dxdemetriou boot to a liveCD ..  but how did it die ?
[01:18] <macsim> I follow this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto, I'm ubable to found mol package, I installed multiverse etc..., but the package doesn't seams to be avalable, is it normal ?
[01:19] <macsim> oups, I forget to say hello all ;)
[01:19] <dxdemetriou> richiefrich, I don't know. It was after the update. Can I use the chroot from livecd to restore it?
[01:19] <richiefrich> dxdemetriou  sure can
[01:19] <cowmilk2> hi guys, i've connected the 2nd hard drive. but not in the place of the floppy. Why? because the slot where the floppy is also has screw holes made for a floppy drive
[01:20] <yacek19> !w32codecs
[01:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:20] <cowmilk2> so now that i've connected a 2nd internal hard drive into my old computer, how can i use it?
[01:20] <Arafanger> cowmilk2: Like any other HDD.
[01:20] <cowmilk2> don't i need to forman and/or mount and/or partition the hard drive?
[01:20] <cocos> someone from the netherlands here who can help me whit some dutch servers for sources.list?
[01:20] <TyeDye>  i tried to run xpeguins and it locked up my desktop after restarting my pc the only thing showing is my wallpaper,i was able to connect here thru terminal but thats about it,help
[01:20] <Arafanger> cowmilk2: Probably.
[01:20] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 fdisk -l
[01:21] <Arafanger> richiefrich: I tend to recommend cfdisk, but fdisk _is_ more reliable.
[01:21] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: nothing shows when i do that
[01:21] <Arafanger> cowmilk2: Define "nothing".
[01:21] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  will show u want it is.. then  fdisk /dev/
[01:21] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 please do
[01:22] <sam_>  if you install a second hardrive that's old will it slow down my main new driver?
[01:22] <richiefrich> Arafanger i used both.. there simular
[01:22] <tabman> how do you create a boot-script ?
[01:22] <richiefrich> sam_ no
[01:22] <dxdemetriou> richiefrich, do you know the command that restores the grub? :)
[01:22] <Arafanger> richiefrich: imho, cfdisk is more user friendly.
[01:22] <richiefrich> Arafanger i'm old school
[01:22] <cowmilk2> Arafanger: this is what i mean by nothing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19572
[01:22] <sam_> sweet
[01:22] <Arafanger> richiefrich: Me too.
[01:22] <richiefrich> Arafanger  i stilkl like lilo
[01:22] <Arafanger> richiefrich: There are some things only lilo can do.
[01:22] <Urden> ubuntu = 6 letters.....and dapper's version is 6.06...that's 666!   !!!!
[01:22] <richiefrich> yes
[01:22] <sam_> can i run three versions of linux on the same machine? using two harddrives?
[01:23] <Arafanger> richiefrich: I just wish that ubuntu's lilo support wasn't so *crap* :(
[01:23] <richiefrich> and most dont know that
[01:23] <Arafanger> Urden: That's nothing.
[01:23] <Ghagge> is it possible to specify what packets to install when doing a new installation of ubuntu?
[01:23] <richiefrich> Arafanger ahh sorry to hear that
[01:23] <Arafanger> Urden: My school had a vacination for meningocal a few years ago.
[01:23] <richiefrich> dxdemetriou  just run through  it
[01:23] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: did you take a look at the "nothing" result of your command? --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19572
[01:23] <richiefrich> dxdemetriou   apt-get install grub
[01:23] <Arafanger> Urden: It was a catholic school - and the batch number for the vacine was 666!
[01:23] <Urden> Arafanger, i know...j/k.....i just read the digg story on Christian Ububtu.....
[01:23] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 lookin
[01:24] <Arafanger> Urden: I'm not joking!
[01:24] <richiefrich> cowmilk2   use sudo on that cmd
[01:24] <tabman> hey guys someone please tell me how do I make a boot-script ?
[01:24] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  still same ?
[01:24] <visik7> today is 3 8 6 tomorrow will be 4 8 6 and yesterday was 2 8 6 ... the x86 days :)
[01:24] <cowmilk2> nope
[01:24] <cowmilk2> there's a lot
[01:24] <cowmilk2> hold on
[01:24] <Arafanger> visik7: And today, it's my birthday :) I am so honored.
[01:25] <cowmilk2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19573 <-- richiefrich
[01:25] <visik7> Arafanger: you are thi first 32bit :)
[01:25] <visik7> good
[01:25] <richiefrich> dxdemetriou   then   in  4 separate lines -->   grub  -->  root (hd0,0) - - >  setup  (hd0)   -->  quit
[01:25] <sam_> can i run ubuntu on a usb drive if so how?
[01:25] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 better
[01:25] <pwagland> Hi all! Quick question for the wise: How do I report bugs in  that are introduced by ubuntu changes?
[01:25] <cowmilk2> yes, richiefrich ,better
[01:26] <visik7> sam_ if your system boot from usb probably yes
[01:26] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  i take it /dev/hdb  is the one u installed ?`
[01:26] <kidbuntu> how do you mount dev/hda5 in media???
[01:26] <Arafanger> That reminds me, if my USB flash disc has a few damaged sectors, is it probably on it's way out (It's fairly new, but it's a cheap brand)
[01:26] <richiefrich> mount /dev/hda5 /media
[01:27] <visik7> or add it to fstab
[01:27] <pwagland> In particular, the UUID change is broken when your root drive is on an LVM partition, since there is no /dev/disk/by-uuid/?? generated for it.
[01:27] <richiefrich> dxdemetriou   does that make sence?
[01:27] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  i take it /dev/hdb  is the one u installed ?`
[01:27] <cowmilk2> yes, hdb  i the one i have just installed
[01:27] <cocos> someone from the netherlands here who can help me whit some dutch servers for sources.list?
[01:27] <richiefrich> cowmilk2    u want to format it ?
[01:27] <richiefrich> cowmilk2    u have windows things on there
[01:27] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: i guess
[01:28] <cowmilk2> i don't mind losing all the windows 98 stuff
[01:28] <cowmilk2> there
[01:28] <richiefrich> yes or no man
[01:28] <TyeDye>  i tried to run xpeguins and it locked up my desktop after restarting my pc the only thing showing is my wallpaper,i was able to connect here thru terminal but thats about it,help
[01:28] <cowmilk2>  formatting means recovering space, right?
[01:28] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 fdisk /dev/hdb
[01:28] <cowmilk2> if so, yes
[01:28] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: how did you know i am a man? 8-)
[01:28] <richiefrich> good guess
[01:29] <kidbuntu> how do you mount dev/hda5 in media???
[01:29] <richiefrich> kidbuntu   mount /dev/hda5 /media
[01:29] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  sudo  mount /dev/hda5 /media
[01:29] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 then --> d
[01:29] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  then --> 1
[01:29] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  then --> n
[01:30] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  then --> p
[01:30] <richiefrich> 1
[01:30] <richiefrich> w
[01:30] <ic56> richiefrich: the advice you just gave kidbuntu is most likely not what he wanted to do.  /media in Ubuntu contains other directories that need to be visible
[01:30] <kidbuntu> ic56. yep it didnt help
[01:30] <richiefrich> ic56 he asked how to mount it
[01:30] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: by the way, this is the second hard drive. the p command you're telcling me is to make a primary pratition. please confirm
[01:31] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 yes
[01:31] <ompaul> you can have primaries on any disk
[01:31] <dD0T> Just a short question: Anyone else got problems with getting current filelists from security.ubuntu.com?
[01:31] <kidbuntu> ic56: it just turned out that i cant access media now
[01:31] <richiefrich> kidbuntu what are u trying to do
[01:31] <cowmilk2> i First cylinder (1-1582, default 1) <--- what do i answer?
[01:31] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: i want to gain access to my NTFS partition
[01:32] <ompaul> !ntfs > kidbuntu
[01:32] <richiefrich> kidbuntu u didnt say ntfs
[01:32] <richiefrich> now u say
[01:32] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: sorry
[01:32] <ompaul> kidbuntu, read the message from the bot it contains the instructions you want
[01:32] <richiefrich> theres a big difference
[01:32] <cowmilk2> richiefrich :   First cylinder (1-1582, default 1) <--- what do i answer?
[01:32] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 enter
[01:32] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 enter
[01:32] <cowmilk2> ok
[01:32] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: how do i return media to its normal state
[01:32] <cowmilk2> now what?
[01:33] <cowmilk2> Command (m for help):
[01:33] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 w
[01:33] <cowmilk2> ok. it's "syncing disks' now-
[01:33] <cowmilk2> done
[01:33] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[01:33] <richiefrich> kidbuntu what was htere before ?
[01:33] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: ok. i ran that as sudo
[01:33] <richiefrich> yes
[01:34] <richiefrich> all sudo
[01:34] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: just wondering . next thime i need to do this, can't this be done via gui?
[01:34] <cowmilk2> (I'm in xubuntu)
[01:34] <richiefrich> yes
[01:34] <richiefrich> i like cmd line
[01:34] <richiefrich> :P
[01:34] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media
[01:34] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: ok
[01:34] <cowmilk2> it's done
[01:34] <cowmilk2> nowe
[01:34] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  sudo umount /dev/hda5
[01:34] <richiefrich> idk what the problem is
[01:34] <ic56> kidbuntu: assumint you ran hte comand richiefrich gave you, to undo it, use: sudo umount /dev/hda5
[01:34] <richiefrich> undo it
[01:35] <Bardamu> guten Tag
[01:35] <dD0T> security.ubuntu.com doesn't deliver any file list to me....just timeout...ping is ok! Am I the only one with this problem?
[01:35] <Bardamu> german ubuntu channel ?
[01:35] <dD0T> Barduma: This is and english chat
[01:35] <Ghagge> dD0T, no you are not the only one
[01:35] <cowmilk2> richiefrich the "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1" is done, now
[01:35] <ic56> !de
[01:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:35] <Bardamu> ic56,  thanks
[01:35] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 then make a mount point
[01:35] <cowmilk2> how?
[01:36] <dD0T> Ghagge: I already doubted my mental state.... ;) Do you have any info on why it's non responsive?
[01:36] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  where do u want it mounteds?
[01:36] <richiefrich> mounted?
[01:36] <cbx33> is there a music pacakge that rips to mp3 and not ogg
[01:36] <cowmilk2> i don't know what you mean?
[01:36] <cbx33> my phone likes mp3 you see
[01:36] <richiefrich> what folder?
[01:36] <cowmilk2> i just want to have a 2nd hard drive that's availabel whenever i am on this computer
[01:36] <Ghagge> dD0T, have no idea, just noticed it myself when
[01:36] <cowmilk2> what folder?
[01:36] <richiefrich> cbx33 lame
[01:36] <cowmilk2> i'm not sure what you mean. sorry
[01:36] <dD0T> Ghagge: The mailinglist says there's a new kernel update and without security.ubuntu.com it's quite hard to get it^^
[01:36] <richiefrich> cbx33  its the mp3 encoder
[01:36] <cbx33> yes I know it
[01:37] <cowmilk2> i've got a windows background. where drives come in letters. like C: D:, E.
[01:37] <cbx33> richiefrich, but, all the ripping programs I use do it to ogg
[01:37] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: please be patient, i want to understand you
[01:37] <cbx33> do i have to batch convert them afterwards?
[01:37] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  tis ok
[01:37] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: ok. so what do you mean by asking where do i want it mounted?
[01:37] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 like  C: D: E:    u can mount a  drive any place
[01:38] <Snorkel> Does somebody knows if it is possible to access (read / write) a external USB ntfs hard disk?
[01:38] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 u name the floder
[01:38] <cowmilk2> ok. what do the real Linux geeks do?
[01:38] <richiefrich> folder
[01:38] <cowmilk2> what would Linus do L
[01:38] <cowmilk2> ?
[01:38] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: how can i undo it. i choosed writeable. i dont want /dev/hda1 to be writeable. just the /dev/hda5
[01:38] <BeepAU> Hey everyone, my ubuntu crashed so I booted another one with noapix and acpi=off, it's working, but I've now got multiple versions of ubuntu on my pc, which takes up alot of space. can anyone help me delete them and give that space to my working ubuntu?
[01:38] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 well all depends what u are using it for
[01:38] <cowmilk2> you mean that this hard drive will be named after a folder?
[01:38] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: i'm using this 2nd hard drive as a carry over of the first
[01:39] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 yes.. in a way
[01:39] <cowmilk2> so you're asking  me for a label?
[01:39] <pwagland> Hi all! Quick question for the wise: How do I report bugs in  that are introduced by ubuntu changes?
[01:39] <pwagland> In particular, the UUID change is broken when your root drive is on an LVM partition, since there is no /dev/disk/by-uuid/?? generated for it.
[01:39] <chemist_> i have ubuntu installed and i have kubuntu cds also, can i install kubuntu packages from kubuntu cd in my ubuntu
[01:39] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  yes
[01:39] <Terminus> Snorkel: read = doable. write = not without a lot of danger.
[01:39] <richiefrich> kidbuntu what u mean u dont want it to be writable
[01:39] <cowmilk2> hmmm. so let me see, the main hard drive is named "ubuntu" yes?
[01:39] <cbx33> richiefrich, you got an easy way to batch convert all files in a folder to mp3 from ogg ?
[01:40] <richiefrich> cbx33 i just might
[01:40] <cbx33> :)
[01:40] <BeepAU> can anyone help me with my problem?
[01:40] <richiefrich> let me look
[01:40] <cbx33> I'll love you forev....I mean buy you a beer
[01:40] <Snorkel> The disk is only formatted and ther is no data on it. So i can bare a certain risc.
[01:40] <cbx33> BeepAU, what's up
[01:40] <BeepAU> my ubuntu crashed so I booted another one with noapix and acpi=off, it's working, but I've now got multiple versions of ubuntu on my pc, which takes up alot of space. can anyone help me delete them and give that space to my working ubuntu?
[01:40] <cowmilk2> how do i know what the name of my hard drive is?
[01:40] <cbx33> BeepAU, did you format with LVM?
[01:40] <ShaunES> Anyone have any idea how install simplejson?
[01:40] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: ?
[01:41] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: i'm on a dual boot. i dont want to accidentally mess up with drive C: the /dev/hda5 contains only a bunch of files
[01:41] <Snorkel> I can already (only read only) access the disk
[01:41] <Terminus> !fuse > Snorkel
[01:41] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- I'm sorry, but I'm a linux n00b, you'll have to rephrase that
[01:41] <cbx33> BeepAU, when you installed
[01:41] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  sorta speaking  if it's ntfs u can/cant write to it in linux
[01:41] <Basilio> Hello, I have probelm with ubuntu. It is setup as samba server and clients can print ok, but when in MS Word I send to print selection it plain doesn't work
[01:41] <cbx33> what did you choose for how to format the disk?
[01:41] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: please don't leave me in a limbo.
[01:41] <Snorkel> fuse? is that a package i need to install?
[01:42] <dngldoo1> hey, I've got some wierd problems with my ALSA drivers
[01:42] <richiefrich>  cowmilk2 it's not  really named.. but lets  mount it in   /mnt/overflow
[01:42] <bXi> hi
[01:42] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 im not man
[01:42] <Terminus> Snorkel: read the link ubotu gave you. i never tried writing to ntfs from linux coz the risk wasn't worth it for me.
[01:42] <Ghagge> when installing ubuntu, is it possible to make a selection of packages to install?
[01:42] <bXi> if i use the livecd to install
[01:42] <cbx33> Ghagge, not as far as I know
[01:42] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: can i change the name later on, if i wan to?
[01:42] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 yes
[01:42] <bXi> and it comes up to the part where it repartitions the drive
[01:42] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- the first option. However, it had already been partitioned to allow space for ubuntu the first time. My new ubuntu has only 2gb of space, which is 96% full.
[01:42] <chemist_> i add kubuntu cd repository in ubuntu but synaptic doesn't show me those kubuntu packages, e.g: konqueror, why?
[01:42] <bXi> is that 100% safe?
[01:43] <cbx33> yikes
[01:43] <cowmilk2> ok
[01:43] <Terminus> Ghagge: you could do a minimal install from the alt cd and go from there. :)
[01:43] <cbx33> how about your other one?
[01:43] <cowmilk2> let's do it
[01:43] <elfosilvano> ciao
[01:43] <elfosilvano> qualke italiano?
[01:43] <cbx33> do you have two options when you boot your machine
[01:43] <cbx33> one that works and one that doesn't?
[01:43] <richiefrich> cbx33   thats for  mp3 to wav --> for i in *.mp3; do lame --decode $i `basename $i .mp3`.wav; done
[01:43] <Ghagge> Terminus, you mean isntall as a server and then install X, Gnome and the other selected packages afterwards?
[01:43] <anon3312> when i try to boot up my computer says no hard drive found, so i booted the live cd , my question is how can i get to all my files on the hard drive
[01:43] <Pretoriano> elfosilvano, chiedi su ubuntu-it :P
[01:43] <richiefrich> cbx33 just edit it a bit
[01:43] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- I have about 3 ubuntus + recovery modes and a windows xp
[01:43] <Snorkel> Ok. I see. I havent seen the link. Thanx. I shall follow the instructions
[01:44] <cbx33> richiefrich, :D
[01:44] <TikTakiT> am i moderated ?..
[01:44] <TikTakiT> this is my bug: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19577
[01:44] <anon3312> or how do i get my computer to find the harddrive
[01:44] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: let's call it barnhouse
[01:44] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- I need the windows, but would like to get rid of the extra ubuntus and give that space to my working one.
[01:44] <TikTakiT> i get when i try to define a keyboard layout keys or language
[01:44] <richiefrich>  cowmilk2  sudo   mkdir   /mnt/barnhouse
[01:44] <Terminus> Ghagge: there should be a minimal install option that just gives you a text login. i've never tried installing from a dapper cd though so i wouldn't know the exact details.
[01:44] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: done
[01:44] <richiefrich>  cowmilk2  mount /dev/hdb1   /mnt/barnhouse
[01:44] <richiefrich>  cowmilk2  sudo mount /dev/hdb1   /mnt/barnhouse
[01:44] <cbx33> BeepAU, you'll have to give me a few minutes
[01:45] <cbx33> I have to skoosh to my non studio machine
[01:45] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: done
[01:45] <anon3312> i'm on the live cd right now trying to get my files off this computer and on to another one
[01:45] <anon3312> how do i get to them?
[01:45] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- ok, thats fine
[01:45] <anon3312> or does anyone know how i can get my computer to find the hard drive at boot time?
[01:45] <Ghagge> Terminus, yes, the server installation only give the text login
[01:46] <Terminus> Ghagge: that should do then. that's what i did when i installed.
[01:46] <cbx33> anon3312, click on places
[01:46] <cbx33> then computer
[01:46] <cbx33> do you have your hdd in therE?
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[01:46] <anon3312> file system?
[01:46] <TikTakiT> this is my bug when i try to change language and keys layout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19577
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > I'm looking for software to run a jukebox on my box which is connected to tv
[01:46] <Ghagge> Terminus, but what do you neeed to install afterwards to get X working?
[01:46] <richiefrich>  cowmilk2    ADD this -->      /dev/hdb1               /mnt/barnhouse      ext3            defaults        0
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > mythtv and freevo don't match my standards
[01:46] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 to  /etc/fstab
[01:47] <cowmilk2> how do i do that additon?
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > does anyone know other software?
[01:47] <anon3312> i see file system cbx33
[01:47] <Terminus> Ghagge: xserver-xorg-core at least
[01:47] <ssm> richiefrich: Shouldn't there be another 0 at the end?
[01:47] <richiefrich> cbx33 theres a ogg2mp3
[01:47] <cbx33> [Wiebel] , in what way
[01:47] <richiefrich> ssm good eye
[01:47] <Ghagge> Terminus, okay thanks
[01:47] <richiefrich>  cowmilk2    ADD this -->      /dev/hdb1               /mnt/barnhouse      ext3            defaults        0 0
[01:47] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 to  /etc/fstab
[01:47] <cowmilk2> ssm: thanks for your observation
[01:47] <Terminus> Ghagge: you're welcome. have fun. :)
[01:47] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: can you help me with this. i just dont want to mount the ntfs   "/dev/hda1"   i just want ntfs "/dev/hda5"
[01:47] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: how do i do this adding?
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > cbx33: / richiefrich for listening music
[01:47] <anon3312> and my cd drive is spinning ungodly fast
[01:48] <anon3312> its making me nerverous
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > but I need a userfriendly frontend, which is shown on TV
[01:48] <ssm> no problem :)
[01:48] <cbx33> what's up with mythtv then?
[01:48] <richiefrich> [Wiebel]  ?>
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > richiefrich: sorry :)
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > not for you :)
[01:48] <richiefrich> [Wiebel]  np
[01:49] <anon3312> does anyone know how i can get myc omputer to find the harddrive at boot?
[01:49] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  /dev/hda5       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[01:49] <anon3312> and dont know what happend
[01:49] <cowmilk2> I would like to do the addition, but i don't know how to, richiefrich
[01:49] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  to  /etc/fstab
[01:49] <TikTakiT> this is my bug when i try to change language and keys layout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19577
[01:49] <TikTakiT> can you help me ?
[01:49] <anon3312> it was working fine then it froze and i restarted and now it says hard drive not found when i try to boot
[01:49] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  sudo nano -w  /etc/fstab
[01:49] <richiefrich> kidbuntu then mount -a
[01:49] <richiefrich> kidbuntu then sudo mount -a
[01:50] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  i think thats what your askin
[01:50] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: are those commands?? i dont really understand those
[01:50] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: should i worry about the columns lining up?
[01:50] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: how do i unmount the /dev/hda1 now permanently
[01:50] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 if u want to.. just make sure there  have spaces
[01:51] <richiefrich> umount  /dev/hda1
[01:51] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: is this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19579 fine?
[01:51] <anon3312> anyone?
[01:51] <richiefrich> cbx33  did u get that  -->  ogg2mp3
[01:52] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 yup
[01:52] <qlash> Hello, I have question, I right clicked in gnome and choose remove from panel on what seems to been my systray, now I can't get it back (want firestarter and gaim to show there) Anyone know how to get it back? =P
[01:52] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: ok. i saved the changes to that file
[01:52] <cbx33> yup
[01:52] <anon3312> there is not /dev/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:52] <anon3312> is that bad?
[01:52] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 now it will mount on boot
[01:52] <cowmilk2> ok
[01:53] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: how do i put stuff on it?
[01:53] <richiefrich> anon3312 u mean   /etc/fstab ?
[01:53] <anon3312> yea
[01:53] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 it's that folder now
[01:53] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: what's the next step/
[01:53] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: umount /dev/hda1 doesnt help. it just mounted again when i restarted the computer
[01:53] <qlash> Anyone? :)
[01:53] <richiefrich> cowmilk2     -->   /mnt/barnhouse
[01:53] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: oh, so you mean i don't have to worry about which hard drive i'm going to be saving stuff?
[01:54] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 no
[01:54] <richiefrich> cowmilk2     -->   /mnt/barnhouse    <--  thats it now
[01:54] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: no, i do NOT hvae to worry, or No, i do have to worry?
[01:54] <cowmilk2> thanks for the address of the barnhouse
[01:55] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 anytime u want to edit where it lies ..  edit  /etc/fstab
[01:55] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: ok
[01:55] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 no no worries
[01:55] <richiefrich> when u copy or make files to  --> /mnt/barnhouse
[01:55] <richiefrich> thats that other HDD
[01:55] <ubu-newbie> can you help me with this problem please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19577 ? it happens when i change the keyboard layout. i can't change other language from english
[01:55] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: so my main drive has 3 more free gigs. If I save a 4 gig file, what will my computer do with it
[01:55] <cowmilk2> ?
[01:55] <cowmilk2> will it firsttry to fill the first hard drive?
[01:56] <cowmilk2> before using the 2nd hard drive?
[01:56] <richiefrich> no it doesnt work like that
[01:56] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- can you still help me with my problem?
[01:56] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: as you can see, i don't know
[01:56] <cowmilk2> please educate me
[01:56] <cbx33> BeepAU, i can try
[01:56] <cbx33> have you done much partitioning in windows?
[01:56] <warlocky> how do I look on a screen ? I started up it with a name, I forgot how to open it
[01:56] <cbx33> I f you havn't used your ubuntu installs
[01:56] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  if it's  out of room  in that dir..  then save it to that other dir
[01:57] <cookieface> Good morning everyone :)  By the looks of it, cowmilk and I might be having the same problem.  But forgive me because I just got in on the end of the solution.  I can't access my 2nd hd when I book up in Ubuntu.  it shows in the disks but when I click on it, it says that I do not have permission to view.  I have read the forum and I nothing in the solutions is working :(  Can someone please help me?  I will wait my turn patien
[01:57] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- i haven't done much partitioning, no.
[01:57] <cbx33> easiest solution would be to remove all the ubuntu partitions, and re install, am I right guys???
[01:57] <richiefrich> kidbuntu i really dont know what u mean
[01:57] <ubu-newbie> can you tell me if u can see what i write ?
[01:57] <richiefrich> kidbuntu u want to umount hda1 why ?
[01:57] <qlash> Could anyone please tell me how to get the systray back in gnome? :)
[01:57] <cbx33> fiddling with partitions can get you in a lot of trouble
[01:57] <rob89> ciao
[01:58] <cowmilk2> i went to disks-admin. how come 1 gig is gone?
[01:58] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- how can i remove all of them? i'm willing to start again, but I have windows on my machine as well, which i can't afford to lose.
[01:58] <cowmilk2> 12.12 gig has only 11.20 gig free.
[01:58] <cowmilk2> what's taking up that 1 gig ?
[01:58] <cbx33> BeepAU, well, hang on
[01:58] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- sure.
[01:58] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: i dont want anything from /dev/hda1 : /dev/hda1 is my drive C: i dont want access any to it. /dev/hda5 is ony i want. thats the partition on where i throw up my files
[01:58] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 nothing u lose space on formatting it
[01:59] <Mercury> Er, is it just me, or are security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[01:59] <cowmilk2> oh, is that so.
[01:59] <cowmilk2> thanks so much
[01:59] <IdleOne> cowmilk2, it could be the swap that is taking up a gig
[01:59] <cowmilk2> IdleOne: swap? on a 2ndary hard drive?
[01:59] <huerlisi> Mercury: they're dead slow, but working
[01:59] <cbx33> BeepAU, i'd really like to get someone elses opinion here
[01:59] <acojlo> how to restart gdm and xserver ?
[01:59] <cbx33> that's how I'd do it
[01:59] <IdleOne> cowmilk2, I said could but guess not
[01:59] <Mercury> huerlisi: Ah.
[01:59] <ic56> cookieface: what type of filesystem is in that 2nd hd?
[01:59] <cbx33> any takers?
[01:59] <richiefrich> kidbuntu then dont mount hda1 .. remove it from  /etc/fstab
[01:59] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: how??
[02:00] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: thank you for your time
[02:00] <cowmilk2> and finger power
[02:00] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 np
[02:00] <cookieface> ic56, forgive my ignorance but it is only pics, music and tax files used with xp.
[02:00] <richiefrich> kidbuntu sudo nano -w  /etc/fstab
[02:00] <imbrandon> [icu] : can i help you ? you ctcp'd me
[02:01] <Pretoriano> imbrandon, u r not the only one :P
[02:01] <ic56> cookieface: so, does that partition contain an NTFS filesystem, then?
[02:01] <cookieface> oh yes, I'm sorry
[02:01] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: ah ok. then i delete the lines that corresponds with the /dev/hda1
[02:01] <[Wiebel] > noboy who knows a fullscreen mp3 jukebox system wich can be controlled with keyboard only?
[02:01] <[Wiebel] > an run fullscreen
[02:01] <ic56> cookieface: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[02:01] <[Wiebel] > and
[02:01] <ic56> cookieface: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[02:01] <richiefrich> imbrandon no he CTCP the whole channel
[02:01] <richiefrich> kidbuntu just add a #
[02:01] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  in the begging of the line
[02:02] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: whats with the -w?
[02:02] <wildman> hello
[02:02] <agustincnc> I can't make my scanner work. It is  scanjet 3530c?  scanimage -L and all the rest seem to be fine.
[02:02] <richiefrich> kidbuntu so it doesnt wrap
[02:02] <BeepAU> could anyone else give a second opinion to my problem?
[02:02] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  u cant have it make new lines...
[02:02] <wildman> I've installed the latest updates available on dapper x86_64 and now my acrobat reader displays a rectangle for every single char on every single menu. ideas?
[02:02] <richiefrich> theres things that should be on one line
[02:02] <stjepan> hi
[02:02] <richiefrich> or the file is read wrong
[02:02] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: i think i already deleted the line. i didnt notice your message? is it fine since i dont want any access to it?
[02:02] <richiefrich> kidbuntu nano --help
[02:03] <qlash> I'll try posting on the forums but getting the systrat to show again seems to be such a small problem ^^
[02:03] <TikTakiT> can u see me ?
[02:03] <cookieface> thank you for your help, I will try that now :)  Everyone, have a GREAT day!!
[02:03] <richiefrich> kidbuntu yes
[02:03] <richiefrich> TikTakiT yes
[02:03] <ic56> cookieface: yw.
[02:03] <TikTakiT> thanks!
[02:03] <stjepan> can anybody here do "sudo apt-get update"?? Why is "connecting to security.ubuntu.com" sooo slow?
[02:03] <Seveas> TikTakiT, only if your webcam is working
[02:03] <kidbuntu> i'll try restarting my system. and i'll check it again
[02:03] <TikTakiT> i have a bug when i change my keyboard layout. it is here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19577
[02:04] <TikTakiT> haha seveas :)
[02:04] <TikTakiT> when i'll figure how to plug a usb camera to ubuntu...
[02:04] <JoseGosdin> Hi, my name is Jose Gosdin and I am starting a Christian Ubuntu version. If you would like to help out please join #christianubuntu or if you have any spare time, please digg our submission at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Jesus_Linux_Ubuntu_Christian_Edition Thank you for your support. :)
[02:04] <TikTakiT> i have drakk ubunutu if it helps
[02:05] <hs_125> hi *.*
[02:05] <hs_125> I am trying to install ntop
[02:05] <Mercury> Hrm, is there supposed to be a program or script run on the first login after reboot on installing?
[02:05] <BeepAU> in need of a second opinion - hey everyone, my ubuntu crashed so I booted another one with noapix and acpi=off, it's working, but I've now got multiple versions of ubuntu on my pc, which takes up alot of space. can anyone help me delete them and give that space to my working ubuntu?
[02:05] <BFGod> @stjepan, yes, security,ubuntu.com also working pretty slow here
[02:05] <Mercury> (For whatever reason, if there is one, it didn't get run here and start-stop-daemon is still the dummy version, not a clue what I did wrong, just need to fix it.)
[02:06] <hs_125> i installed ntop but while running it says **ERROR** RRD: Disabled - unable to create base directory
[02:06] <hs_125> and freezes any idea?
[02:06] <TikTakiT> another quetion: i'm now installing a "regular" ubuntu on the laptop next to me. is it ok ?
[02:06] <TikTakiT> it's ubuntu desktop.
[02:06] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- you there?
[02:06] <wildman> I've installed the latest updates available on dapper x86_64 and now my acrobat reader displays a rectangle for every single char on every single menu. ideas?
[02:06] <stefg> BeepAU: no major problem, but it's potentially hazardous so do a backup first, please
[02:07] <cbx33> BeepAU, yes
[02:07] <stefg> _full_ backup of everything taht is
[02:07] <BeepAU> stefg -- how can I do a backup?
[02:07] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: how can i make /dev/hda5 writeable??
[02:07] <BeepAU> stefg -- i'm sorry, but i'm very much a n00b to this sort of thing.
[02:08] <stefg> BeepAU: by using a backup application and writing stuff either to CD or to a different harddrive
[02:08] <Dimitrije> Why is 75 refresh rate more "sharp" than 85!?
[02:08] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  is it ntfs
[02:08] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: yes
[02:08] <richiefrich> kidbuntu   then good luck man.. it's not totally supported
[02:08] <TikTakiT> ?...
[02:08] <richiefrich> !ntfs
[02:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:08] <cbx33> there ya go BeepAU :D
[02:08] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:08] <cbx33> make your backup and then we'll take it from there
[02:08] <stefg> Dimitrije: because the transformer in your monitor is a lazy *ss :-)
[02:09] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  thats all i can tell u man.. i dumped M$ back in 93
[02:09] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: so why did the mounter asked anyway if its writeable or not
[02:09] <BeepAU> stefg -- point me in the direction of a backup application, please. i have a dvd burner.
[02:09] <BFGod> hi everyone, could someone help me to properly replace some fonts in firefox, namely "fixedsys" for "monospace"?
[02:09] <richiefrich> kidbuntu  ?
[02:09] <stefg> !info partimage
[02:09] <Dimitrije> I just tried 65 but almost burned my eyes :/
[02:09] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[02:09] <cbx33> kidbuntu, are you trying to write to ntfs
[02:09] <richiefrich> kidbuntu what u mean
[02:09] <richiefrich> cbx33 yes he is
[02:09] <kidbuntu> richiefrich: so what file should it be man? in order windows xp and Ubuntu can access the same partition
[02:09] <cbx33> ntfsmount
[02:10] <kidbuntu> cbx33: yep
[02:10] <cbx33> are you using that?
[02:10] <richiefrich> kidbuntu idk.. like i said i dont use M$ crap
[02:10] <stefg> BeepAU: do you have enough free space on your drive to hold at least one partitions backup?
[02:10] <TikTakiT> can you help me with this bug: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19577 please...
[02:11] <BeepAU> stefg -- maybe, can i check using the terminal?
[02:11] <cbx33> kidbuntu, I've had success writing to ntfs
[02:11] <cbx33> on knoppix using ntfsmount
[02:11] <stefg> BeepAU: df -h
[02:11] <kidbuntu> cbx33: how. can you tell plssss!!!!
[02:11] <wthww> hello
[02:11] <cbx33> are you using the package ntfsprogs on ubuntu?#
[02:11] <fdr> hello... I need to add some data to an existing session on a DVD+... what program should I use? thanks!
[02:11] <cbx33> if not install it
[02:11] <cbx33> but
[02:11] <cbx33> IT IS EXPERIMENTAL
[02:12] <cbx33> ie, writing support on ntfs is not advised
[02:12] <kidbuntu> cbx33: nope. how do i install it??
[02:12] <cbx33> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[02:12] <cbx33> I would strongly suggest.....if it is a windows data partition that you want to access on both windows and linux
[02:12] <cbx33> make a new parition somewhere format with FAT32 and copy evertyhing across
[02:12] <cbx33> ntfs writing still has bugs
[02:12] <cbx33> and can completely screw up the partition
[02:13] <cbx33> so I'm told
[02:13] <stefg> BeepAU: would be good if you could paste the output of fdisk -l and df -h to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so i can get an overview
[02:13] <kidbuntu> cbx33: what kinds of bugs??
[02:13] <cbx33> dangerous ones
[02:13] <cbx33> that's all I know
[02:13] <wthww> cbx: had that happen earlier tonight
[02:13] <wthww> on an xp/ubuntu machine
[02:13] <cbx33> kidbuntu, there ya go
[02:13] <cbx33> it's not advisable
[02:13] <TikTakiT> i can't write on my own language
[02:13] <BeepAU> stefg -- here is df -h: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19582 , i'll get the other for you.
[02:13] <kidbuntu> cbx33:so why did you suggest something that would mess up with the partition??
[02:14] <TikTakiT> does any console non graphic wizard to fix it ?
[02:14] <stefg> BeepAU: its 'sudo fdisk -l' BTW
[02:15] <TikTakiT> can you help me ?
[02:16] <BeepAU> stefg -- here are the results of sudo fdisk -l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19583
[02:16] <stefg> k
[02:16] <wthww> wb cbx
[02:17] <cbx33> ty
[02:17] <TikTakiT> :(
[02:18] <stefg> BeepAU: tell you what... your disk is sort of messy, so it's a very good idea of getting the partitons cleaned up. What's that 2nd thing  Harddrive or USB?
[02:18] <cbx33> BeepAU, for a visual way, go into System/Administration/Disks
[02:18] <fdr> fdr
[02:18] <wthww> has anyone tried the Iris Visualization plugin for XMMS on Ubuntu?
[02:19] <wildman> I've installed the latest updates available on dapper x86_64 and now my acrobat reader displays a rectangle for every single char on every single menu. ideas?
[02:19] <fdr> sorry if I ask once more... I need to add some data to an existing session on a DVD+... what program should I use? thanks!
[02:19] <BeepAU> stefg -- it's a usb disk.
[02:19] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- thanks.
[02:20] <cbx33> BeepAU, you can remove partitions 3,4,5,6,7
[02:20] <cbx33> right stefg
[02:20] <cbx33> but pelase make a backup of everything important first
[02:20] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- ok, first off, how do i make a backup?
[02:21] <cbx33> in windows....
[02:21] <cbx33> go find all your files that you couldn't live without and make a copy
[02:21] <bobbyyu> stefg, I eliminated the nouser part. What else should I delete?
[02:21] <stefg> BeepAU: did you change a lot on the default install? I mean doing a backup is work, and looking at the mess on your disk i'd consider cleaning up all the linux stuff and start over with a fresh install
[02:21] <cowmilk2> richiefrich i'm downoading a file  from the internet (opera browser) and saving it to /mnt/barnhouse, but i can't make  a new folder in it
[02:22] <cbx33> stefg, that's the plan
[02:22] <cbx33> BeepAU isntalled linux twice
[02:22] <hs_125> anybody plz help me
[02:22] <cbx33> hs_125, somemore infor would be nice
[02:22] <BeepAU> stefg -- if i can keep the windows partition and delete the linux's, i'd be very happy.
[02:22] <hs_125> cbx33, i have pasted earlier
[02:22] <Dimitrije> Hahaha!
[02:22] <cbx33> BeepAU, yes you can
[02:23] <hs_125> cbx33, shall  i paste it again?
[02:23] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  whats your user name ?
[02:23] <cbx33> but, as with all partition editing it has a certain element of risk
[02:23] <cbx33> hs_125, shoot
[02:23] <stefg> BeepAU: yup, i'm only talking of deleting partitions sda3 to sda7... won't touch Windows
[02:23] <rodelrod> Hi there. I'm just installing ubuntu server and I'm wondering: how can I get the same functionality of Upgrade Manager without X. I don't really need the Notify functionality, but it would be nice to be able to check for available upgrades with something like aptitude.
[02:23] <cbx33> rodelrod, in what way?
[02:23] <BeepAU> cbx33 + stefg -- so, how do i delete those partitions?
[02:24] <cbx33> doesn't aptitude do what you need
[02:24] <FuriousRage> deleting partitons rocks, specially when you accidently remove your windows install where you got mom's stuff with alot of copies ;>
[02:24] <cbx33> BeepAU, are you on windows or linux?
[02:24] <stefg> BeepAU: is there anything important on the linux partitions that needs to be saved before sending them to nirvana?
[02:24] <cbx33> FuriousRage, heheh
[02:24] <miza> why my d-link wireless station gives ip: 192.168.1.3 when i do ifup ra0 ?
[02:24] <bobbyyu> I need to change permissions on my FAT 32 drives. What do I do?
[02:24] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: my username is jeff
[02:24] <BeepAU> cbx33 + stefg -- i'm on linux. however, i could move to windows, no problems.
[02:24] <cbx33> BeepAU, likely you'll need to boot up onto a livecd
[02:24] <cbx33> as the partitions you want to delete are in use
[02:25] <BeepAU> cbx33 + stefg -- there's nothing on ubuntu i need.
[02:25] <stefg> BeepAU: wait... that doesnt help... rather move to a Live CD
[02:25] <richiefrich> cowmilk2   sudo chown  jeff  /mnt/barnhouse
[02:25] <wildman> one last time before thanking ppl for not being able to help me this time:
[02:25] <wildman> I've installed the latest updates available on dapper x86_64 and now my acrobat reader displays a rectangle for every single char on every single menu. ideas?
[02:25] <cbx33> stefg, BeepAU i may have to pop off for a while, I'll leave it to you guys
[02:25] <BeepAU> cbx33 + stefg -- i'm sorry, you've lost me. can i do this from windows?
[02:25] <rodelrod> cbx33: the Update Manager on X (in my case Xfce) warns me when there are available updates. I'd like a console command to check for those updates, as I'm not going to run X on this particular machine.
[02:25] <wthww> wildman: sounds like fonts
[02:25] <cbx33> wildman, have you googled?
[02:25] <drayen> I have an older laptop with no network. i installed 5.10 on it via cd and im now trying to upgrade useing the dapper cd - but its not working. i've added the cd via synaptic, but when i "apt-get update, apt-get upgrade" it doenst upgrade anything
[02:26] <hs_125> cbx33, i have installed ntop ....when i runned it through the terminal it says..**ERROR**: RRD disabled.....and freezes....any idea?
[02:26] <BeepAU> cbx33 -- thanks for your help.
[02:26] <cbx33> hs_125, none
[02:26] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: thanks
[02:26] <cbx33> hs_125, googles?
[02:26] <bXi> is it normal that it takes a long time to process step 5 of the livecd installer?
[02:26] <wildman> cbx33, wthww: it was working fine just before the updates...
[02:26] <cbx33> rodelrod, hmmm.....
[02:26] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 u can make a dir now ?
[02:26] <hs_125> cbx33, may be bug...but not sure
[02:26] <wthww> wildman:did your font get corrupted in the process?
[02:26] <cbx33> hs_125, check on launchpad
[02:26] <wildman> cbx33, wthww: I don't think I'd need to google for a bloody bug on updated pkgs....
[02:26] <stefg> BeepAU: even the Ubuntu installer lets you do it. But it's not advisable to work on a disk where the running system is on... Do you have a Desktop CD at hand?
[02:26] <wildman> wthww, how can I tell?
[02:27] <wthww> wildmaan:google is your friend
[02:27] <wildman> wthww, other apps show the menus fine, and I bet they are using the same or similar fonts
[02:27] <BeepAU> stefg -- yes i do. would it be best to do it from that or windows?
[02:27] <hs_125> cbx33, launchpad?
[02:27] <cbx33> BeepAU, the live cd
[02:27] <cbx33> hs_125, https://launchpad.net
[02:27] <wthww> wildman:then Is Acrobat screwed up? how did u install it?
[02:27] <wildman> wthww, I've even restarted X and then rebooted the system, to no avail...
[02:27] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok, can we still keep in communication from there?
[02:27] <cowmilk2> richiefrich it works now. thanks. um, richiefrich, what do you think of having this 2nd hard drive show up in my ~/jeff/ directory?
[02:27] <cowmilk2> is that a bad idea?
[02:27] <stefg> BeepAU: from the Ubuntu LiveCD. Can you connect to the net from the Live CD?
[02:28] <wildman> wthww, I've installed from d/l from adobe a loooong time ago, when I've 1st installed dapper
[02:28] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 u can
[02:28] <bXi> is it normal that it takes a long time to process step 5 of the livecd installer?
[02:28] <BeepAU> stefg -- yes. do you have msn? we could use gaim.
[02:28] <richiefrich> u can in many ways
[02:28] <lurker99> rodelrod: i use a short cron snipit to check for updates.  sample in http://pastebin.ca/113186
[02:28] <wthww> wildman:can you wait a sec? ill google around a bit
[02:28] <wildman> wthww, and again, it was working fine all days (I use it very often cuz I compile lots of PDFs) till 30 mins ago, when I've decided to install updates as suggested by the nice orange icon on gnome's taskbar
[02:29] <stefg> BeepAU: no, there's gaim on the Live CD and you can connect to this channel with it
[02:29] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 ln -s /mnt/barnhouse  ~/jeff/barnhouse
[02:29] <wildman> wthww, thx
[02:29] <cbx33> rodelrod, is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade not doing the job?
[02:29] <roy> can u help me please?
[02:29] <BeepAU> ahh ok, cool.
[02:29] <cbx33> stefg, I believe there is a website with a java irc licent to here too
[02:29] <narr> rodelrod: if you want to check manually: sudo aptitude. press u to refresh the list. mark installed packages and press U
[02:30] <wildman> roy, don't ask a question, ask your question ;)
[02:30] <BeepAU> stefg -- i'll reboot. one moment, please.
[02:30] <Chousuke> what's wrong with security.ubuntu.com?
[02:30] <roy> ok
[02:30] <wthww> wildman: a thought. what version up Acrobat is it?
[02:30] <rodelrod> lurker99: thanks, I'll try to make sense out of it
[02:30] <wildman> wthww, can I find from the CLI?
[02:30] <drayen> HELP :) I have an older laptop with no network. i installed 5.10 on it via cd and im now trying to upgrade useing the dapper cd - but its not working. i've added the cd via synaptic (and even disabled the other sources), but when i "apt-get update, apt-get upgrade" it doenst upgrade - help !!!
[02:31] <Chousuke> I get connection timeout trying to do aptitude upgrade.
[02:31] <danga> pewp
[02:31] <Chousuke> drayen: do aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:31] <roy> im trying to connect to the net from ubuntu with the laptop next to me. it has two modems one wireless and the other wired, and a home network which i'm connected thorugh it now. but i have no connection. what to do ?
[02:31] <wildman> wthww, acroread -version returns 7.0.8
[02:31] <hs_125> cbx33, launchpad ...no luck
[02:31] <rodelrod> narr: nice tip
[02:32] <recon0> roy: try "sudo ifdown -a", then "sudo ifup -a".
[02:32] <wthww> wildman: try upgrading acrobat. that ,ight be the problem
[02:32] <wthww> wildman:thats a faily old version
[02:32] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok, i'll reboot now.
[02:32] <stefg> k
[02:32] <narr> rodelrod: finally you have to press g. press it twice to apply the changes
[02:32] <wildman> wthww, ok, will do. thx.
[02:32] <roy> ok sec. i tried the wirless connection wizaqrd some how
[02:32] <rodelrod> cbx33: I tend to use aptitude because somebody explained me how it would make cleaner uninstalls
[02:32] <roy> i chosed DHCP
[02:32] <lurker99> rodelrod: the -dyq is basically download quiet but don't run.   but it's saved in the cache.
[02:33] <danga> why am i getting this message when i go to change the screen resolution? The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[02:33] <recon0> roy: are you connecting wired or wirelessly?
[02:33] <roy> right now: wirelessly
[02:33] <wthww> this channel needs a learning bot like infobot/URL
[02:33] <wildman> wthww:
[02:33] <wildman> Latest version for your operating system
[02:33] <wildman> Adobe Reader 7.0.8Adobe Reader for
[02:33] <wildman> Windows XP ,
[02:33] <wildman> English
[02:33] <wildman> sorry for 'flood'
[02:33] <purserj> Question for any devs in the channel, does anyone know where I can find the linux-kernel-di for the breezy livecd?
[02:33] <roy> i think i confugured it well to the MAIN wirless spot. i think im connected but the mozilla won't work
[02:34] <wthww> wildman: your in XP?
[02:34] <wildman> but 7.0.8 sounds not an old version to me, but the newest one instead
[02:34] <wildman> wthww, no, the script at adobe failed ;)
[02:34] <wildman> I'm on dapper x86_64
[02:34] <drayen> Chousuke: nope, it just skips 2 packages (cpp and cpp-4.0) and does nothing. im not sure its taken the CD properly (the laptop im trying to upgrade isnt connected to the net)
[02:34] <wildman> fabman@linuxbox64:~$ uname -r
[02:34] <wildman> 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[02:34] <wildman> fabman@linuxbox64:~$
[02:34] <wildman> wthww, see? ;)
[02:34] <wthww> wildman: hmmm... lemme google it up some more, you can help by looking through the forums, if u wish
[02:34] <recon0> roy: try "sudo apt-get install wifi-radar", then "wifi-radar".
[02:35] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: if i do  ln -s /mnt/barnhouse ~/jeff/barnhouse, don't i have to change other things, too, such as the fstab command we did in nano?
[02:35] <wildman> wthww, were do I find 'em?
[02:35] <wthww> wildman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:35] <wildman> thx
[02:35] <recon0> !wifi > roy
[02:35] <cbx33> rodelrod, I use apt
[02:35] <cbx33> apt-get to be more precise
[02:36] <cbx33> but them it's personal pref
[02:36] <recon0> roy: you there?
[02:37] <Chousuke> drayen: hm.
[02:37] <richiefrich> cowmilk2 if u want to
[02:37] <rodelrod> cbx33: with your tip's along with lurker99's and narr I'll be able to manage, thanks a mill
[02:37] <richiefrich> cowmilk2  ln -s  <--- is a symlink
[02:37] <roy> im here
[02:37] <roy> it just my mouse battries are out so im changing
[02:37] <recon0> so, how'd it work?
[02:38] <drayen> Chousuke: yeah its got me as well
[02:38] <cowmilk2> richiefrich: i see. a symlink is like a "shortcut" in windows
[02:38] <richiefrich> kind a
[02:38] <drayen> Chousuke: like i said, i think its not loading the stuff from the cd properly
[02:38] <BeepAU> stefg -- i'm on the live cd.
[02:38] <roy> ok im here sorry
[02:38] <roy> i couldnt apt-get
[02:38] <cbx33> wb BeepAU
[02:38] <roy> but w8 i'll try the first thing
[02:38] <recon0> ...oh, yeah. I forgot.
[02:38] <wildman> wthww, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228399&highlight=fonts+problem seems like a similar problem (if not the same), I'm having with acroread
[02:39] <Bison> hello
[02:39] <smacky_wolf> BeepAU, roar. Msn?
[02:39] <lastnode> hi Bison!
[02:39] <wildman> wthww, no answer on that post yet, and the post seems to be 5 hrs old...
[02:39] <recon0> roy: i'll send you the debian package.
[02:39] <GUARDiAN|nb> how can i set a different locale for one certain app?
[02:39] <Bison> hello
[02:39] <wthww> wildman: new bug maybe
[02:39] <wildman> sigh
[02:39] <roy> recon
[02:39] <stefg> BeepAU: ok, there's a graphical tool resembling partion magic. it's gparted and found in the system menu
[02:39] <wthww> wildman: a bad bug...
[02:39] <roy> what debian package ?..
[02:39] <wildman> I'll monitor that post from time to time...
[02:39] <BeepAU> smacky_wolf: hey, i'm on the live cd. only got gaim for irc.
[02:40] <roy> i did ifup if down what does it do ?
[02:40] <drayen> Chousuke: can you paste your sources.list line for the CD? as i think that could be the problem
[02:40] <smacky_wolf> GAIM does MSN, too.
[02:40] <wthww> wildman: as will i-- i dont want to lose my text! :P
[02:40] <wildman> that's all I can do for now, meanwhile I'll keep using acroread, but its menus
[02:40] <wildman> the PDF's text is just fine, it's the menus that are smacked
[02:40] <recon0> roy: nothing for a wired connection.
[02:40] <roy> it seems like trying to connect
[02:40] <roy> eth0,eth1
[02:40] <wthww> wildman: k.
[02:40] <BeepAU> stefg -- gnome partition editor?
[02:40] <stefg> yup
[02:41] <roy> can we chat in a private window?
[02:41] <wildman> (acroread:8342): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed
[02:41] <Chousuke> drayen: I don't have it.
[02:41] <wildman> got the guilty wthww ?
[02:41] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok, i'm there.
[02:41] <drayen> Chousuke: :(
[02:41] <Chousuke> drayen: but you should be able to add a cd with apt-setup. :/
[02:41] <drayen> i cant work out why this isnt working
[02:41] <wthww> wildman: googleing now....
[02:42] <drayen> Chousuke: will try that now
[02:42] <wildman> wthww, I've just renamed ~/.adobe and rerun 'acroread' from the console and got the above many, many times
[02:42] <Chousuke> drayen: not sure though.
[02:42] <wildman> wthww, of course all acroread's fonts are still smacked ;)
[02:42] <wthww> yeah
[02:42] <stefg> BeepAU: so delete all partions upwards the windows one, so keep sda1 and sda2, and delete all others
[02:42] <cowmilk2> how can i play mp3 files on my xubunu?
[02:42] <califfo> hi all, does anyone know any ktorrent chan?
[02:42] <cowmilk2> don't i need to download some file?
[02:42] <wthww> cowmilk: Use XMMS
[02:42] <cowmilk2> !mp3
[02:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <recon0> !mp3 > cowmilx2
[02:43] <BFGod> hi everyone, could someone help me to properly replace some fonts in firefox, namely "fixedsys" for "monospace"?
[02:43] <pinPoint> how does the new ubuntu compare to the old one?
[02:43] <pinPoint> 5.10 vs 6.xx
[02:43] <recon0> pinPoint: Fairly well.
[02:43] <wthww> wildman: ive got soime google resluts-- hold on a sec
[02:43] <recon0> pinPoint: I would recommend upgrading.
[02:43] <wildman> wthww, ok
[02:44] <drayen> Chousuke: well i used apt-cdrom -a add
[02:44] <drayen> Chousuke: which worked fine
[02:44] <cowmilk2> i'm in Xubuntu, by the way,
[02:44] <smacky_wolf> pinPoint, recommend upgrading. Things Just Work in Dapper more than in breezy
[02:44] <califfo> pinPoint it's better for me, even if it had some problems in recognizing my video card
[02:44] <pinPoint> recon0, no idea whether my minipci 1300 wireless would work
[02:44] <cowmilk2> and i wonder ho i can play mp3 files. I can play OGG files, just not mp3
[02:44] <drayen> Chousuke: but then apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade -> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:44] <roy> recon0 r u here?
[02:44] <drayen> Chousuke: all still did nothing >;(
[02:45] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok, i deleted the biggest one one. however, i can't delete any others.
[02:45] <recon0> roy: yeah.
[02:45] <rcmiv> i cannot seem to change the resolution of the gdm login screen...frustrating
[02:45] <recon0> pinPoint: If it works in breezy it'll work in Dapper.
[02:45] <stefg> BeepAU: errmmm, the biggest one was not windows i hope :-\
[02:45] <roy> i can't get the file from u but i can d\l it from this computer
[02:45] <recon0> OK.
[02:45] <roy> can u give me the url?
[02:46] <roy> i dunno y i can't accept it here...
[02:46] <pinPoint> didnt work
[02:46] <Shinzetsu> Whats the best FTP program around these days?
[02:46] <BeepAU> stefg -- it gives me the option to delete sda6, but then asks to unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6.
[02:46] <recon0> roy : http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/wifi-radar
[02:46] <roy> thank u, i will download it now
[02:46] <recon0> if that doesn't work , it's probably a hardware problem.
[02:46] <wildman> wthww, make sure you put 'wildman' when you talk to me so you draw my attention to xchat, thx.
[02:46] <cowmilk2> how can i change the country of the repos?
[02:46] <recon0> roy gotta go. see yah.
[02:46] <BeepAU> stefg - it was sda3. it had alot of free space, unlike my windows partition.
[02:46] <roy> thanks
[02:46] <califfo> Shinzetsu, I use kftpgrabber
[02:46] <cowmilk2> i've connected to the Canada Repos and they're slow
[02:46] <roy> can any1 explain me how to install the package he gave me ?
[02:47] <cowmilk2> how do i swithche to USA's repo?
[02:47] <jeremy_c> Can anyone recommend a reliable and speedy VPS host that offers Ubuntu?
[02:47] <Shinzetsu> califfo: alright
[02:47] <Bison> Shinzetsu: I like gftp (for gui), and lftp (for cli)
[02:47] <stefg> BeepAU: ok, were you able to get rid of sda3 to sda7 now?
[02:47] <califfo>  is there anyone using ktorrent and having "not connectable" problems even if firewall rules are properly set?
[02:47] <BeepAU> stefg - no. only one has the delete icon light up when i select it, and it gives me an error.
[02:48] <BeepAU> stefg - it asks to unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6.
[02:48] <stefg> BeepAU: ok... tell you what. We're gonna do it like the grown-ups and use the console.. gparted sucks at times
[02:48] <wthww> wildman: i thought i had something, but it leads toi reinstalling gnome-- so i dont think that fixed it-- and its in spanish
[02:49] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok. direct me.
[02:49] <lastnode_> stefg, you might want to take him/her to #ubuntu-offtopic, he/she might get distracted here
[02:49] <wildman> wthww, no pb with ES, I'm from Argentina ;)
[02:49] <wildman> wthww, can you plz gimme the url?
[02:49] <stefg> BeepAU: open a console and 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sda'
[02:49] <wthww> wildman: sure, lol. cultural differences lol
[02:50] <wthww> wildman here >> http://www.agnix.org/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=49&func=view&catid=9&id=742
[02:50] <BeepAU>    FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[02:50] <BeepAU>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:50] <Bison> you should be a real man and use fdisk
[02:50] <BeepAU> stefg - whats that mean?
[02:50] <wthww> Bison: i love cfdisk lol
[02:50] <wildman> wthww, thx
[02:50] <wthww> wildman: no prob, hope ir helps :|
[02:50] <wildman> wthww, why cultural diffs BTW? for not using google myself? ;)
[02:51] <richiefrich> bah fdisk :P
[02:51] <rcmiv> BeepAU it usually means you're sol
[02:51] <wthww> wildman: nah, just language its amazing
[02:51] <wildman> wthww, I'm a bit lazy today + hell of a work overload :-|
[02:51] <Bison> yeah, i always use cfdisk.  but he said be a grownup, so naturally i assume pure commands
[02:51] <wildman> wthww, yep indeed. even between ppl that speak the same lang ;)
[02:51] <BeepAU> rcmiv -- rephrase that for me.
[02:51] <wildman> wthww, thx again!
[02:51] <stefg> BeepAU: i want you to go to Applications->Accessories>Terminal, and when the Terminal is open then enter 'sudo cfdsik /dev/sda' in the Terminal
[02:51] <wthww> wildman: no prob: as i said, i hope it gets resolved
[02:51] <mnp> can someone tell me where the X configuration file is located?
[02:52] <seraphim> /etc/X11
[02:52] <hoehaver> hey all, i just set up a network between i and my dads computer. i have 6.06 and he has xp. firestarter was blocking the connection so i turned it off. then i tryed to access my computer from my dad's.it asked for a user mname and a password
[02:52] <Bison> mnp: probably /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:52] <wildman> wthww, will take a quick look and let you know ;-) (BTW, I don't like ppl 'killing' the lang when they write things like Ola instead of Hola)
[02:52] <stefg> sudo cfdisk /dev/sda that is (typo correction)
[02:52] <hoehaver> i gave it and it didnt take
[02:52] <hoehaver> what givess????
[02:52] <cowmilk2> help, i'm trying to download libxine-extracodecs but i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19586. what's wrong. My sources. list seems fine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19587.
[02:52] <BeepAU> stefg - same thing.
[02:52] <wthww> wildman: lol. i dont liek people who use AOL speak all the time either, as a comparison
[02:53] <stefg> BeepAU: what thing?
[02:53] <wildman> wthww, that's what I mean, tes ;-)
[02:53] <wildman> tes -> yes
[02:53] <wildman> :P
[02:53] <wildman> bloody keyboard
[02:53] <BeepAU>    FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[02:53] <BeepAU>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:53] <wthww> wildman: lol. im dont have perfect spelling, but i try :P
[02:53] <hoehaver> can someone help?
[02:53] <stefg> BeepAU: Ah... i see
[02:54] <rcmiv> so, does anyone know how to change gdm login resolution? seems easy enough
[02:54] <wildman> hoehaver, that's normal I guess...
[02:54] <rcmiv> but I can't figure it out
[02:54] <BeepAU> stefg - whats that mean? is everything still alright?
[02:54] <hoehaver> why wouldnt my user name and password work on my dads computer when i tryed to connect to mine
[02:54] <wildman> hoehaver, being asked for a username/pass when one conencts to another computer, I mean
[02:54] <stefg> BeepAU: the partition table is messed up...
[02:54] <Bison> hoehaver: what are you using to connect to your dad's computer?
[02:54] <BeepAU> stefg -- what should i do?
[02:55] <hoehaver> ok...but when i gave it my user name and pass it didnt take
[02:55] <hoehaver> samba
[02:55] <mnp> how can I reboot X to see changes to the X config file?
[02:55] <stefg> BeepAU: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[02:55] <Bison> mnp: usually CTRL+ALT+DEL
[02:55] <mnp> i think i disabled that a while ago
[02:55] <mnp> is there a command from the term?
[02:55] <Bison> haha
[02:55] <Bison> i'm sorry thats wrong
[02:55] <lastnode_> backspace
[02:55] <seraphim> mnp: ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:55] <Bison> CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[02:56] <SonicChao> Bison: Isn't that Windows. ;)
[02:56] <jkelly2005> anyone having trouble updating ubuntu? updates from security.ubuntu.com?
[02:56] <hoehaver> bison im using samba
[02:56] <Bison> jkelly2005: yes actually
[02:56] <SonicChao> jkelly2005: Not me.
[02:56] <Bison> hoehaver: sorry, i don't know anything about samba
[02:56] <SonicChao> Bison: O RLY?
[02:56] <hoehaver> why do you think the password and name didnt work
[02:56] <hoehaver> oo ok....
[02:56] <gdb> hoehaver: On the samba server, you need to run the following command: "smbpasswd -a your_username" and then enter the password there.  You also need to ensure that the folder you want to mount is shared either using System > Administration > Shared Folders or by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf directly and restarting samba (/etc/init.d/samba restart).
[02:56] <SonicChao> Bison: I just updated 20 minutes ago.
[02:56] <rcmiv> mnp, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:57] <Bison> SonicChao: i can't connect
[02:57] <stefg> BeepAU: are you with me?
[02:57] <BeepAU> stefg -- here's what i'm seeing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19588
[02:57] <FuriousRage> anyone know how i can get ubuntu amd64 version to get an ipv4 ip address instead of an ipv6? (tried all the forum says to do, like bad_list, blacklist-ipv6, blacklist tulip ect) just disables ipv6, doesnt get ipv4 to work at all
[02:57] <SonicChao> Bison: How long did you give it to connect?
[02:57] <rcmiv> the resolutions in my xorg.cong are all 1024x768, yet
[02:58] <rcmiv> the gdm login screen is at some whacky high res
[02:58] <Bison> SonicChao: until it timed out
[02:58] <stefg> BeepAU: that's how it's supposed to look... press 'm'
[02:58] <hoehaver> gdb : so if my password was 123 i would type   smbpasswd -a 123
[02:58] <hoehaver> ??
[02:58] <g33k0|busy> holy cow das a lotta nicks
[02:58] <SonicChao> Bison: It may have just started, all I'm saying is I didn't have problems.
[02:58] <g33k0|busy> O.o
[02:58] <g33k0|busy> yo
[02:58] <roy> can u help me?
[02:58] <Bison> it was about 30 min ago
[02:58] <gdb> hoehaver: No, you type "smbpasswd -a hoehaver" (assuming that's your username).
[02:58] <sp00f3r> :P
[02:58] <gdb> hoehaver: That will add user hoehaver to the smbpasswd file.
[02:59] <sp00f3r> omg
[02:59] <sp00f3r> err
[02:59] <SonicChao> hey, sp00f3r?
[02:59] <hoehaver> oo....ok i got mixed up
[02:59] <Evil_Ed`> sup?
[02:59] <hoehaver> sorry
[02:59] <hoehaver> but thank you
[02:59] <sp00f3r> yo
[02:59] <sp00f3r> err
[02:59] <SonicChao> sp00f3r: Stop.
[02:59] <BeepAU> stefg -- delete a partition?
[02:59] <sp00f3r> i need ubutu guides
[02:59] <simpo> hi! does mldonkey-server works with dapper ?
[02:59] <SonicChao> sp00f3r: Ah...alright...Ubuntu guides?
[02:59] <sp00f3r> where can i get them
[02:59] <SonicChao> sp00f3r: I'll find them for u, k?
[02:59] <Bison> hmmm, now i can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <wildman> wthww, lol, it's not in ES, but in PT_BR ;-)
[02:59] <sp00f3r> yeah
[02:59] <stefg> BeepAU: no, lets first have a look at 'v'
[03:00] <wildman> wthww, I'll take a look anyway, I do understand some pt_BR too
[03:00] <wthww> wildman: google said it was spanish
[03:00] <Bison> sp00f3r: go to ubuntu.com and click on wiki
[03:00] <wildman> it's not
[03:00] <wthww> wildman: kk, lol
[03:00] <Bison> excellence
[03:00] <wildman> wthww, the page seems to be from Spain indeed, but the post is not in ES
[03:00] <sp00f3r> k thanks bison
[03:00] <SonicChao> sp00f3r: Hold on, I'm clicking for it...you want the PDF guide right?
[03:00] <sp00f3r> <------- linux n00b
[03:00] <wthww> wildman:lol... weird huh
[03:00] <BeepAU> stefg - 72439206 unallocated sectors
[03:00] <hoehaver> gdb : thank man...really
[03:00] <SonicChao> sp00f3r: We all were at one time. =)
[03:00] <Bison> Wiki + google = lots of information
[03:01] <hoehaver> you have no idea how long i have been fuc**ng with this sh*t
[03:01] <stefg> BeepAU: hmmm... ok.. then go 'd'
[03:01] <syntaxx> does the server release can also install desktop?
[03:01] <wildman> wthww, maybe it's cataln... anyway... trying to read
[03:01] <SonicChao> !language
[03:01] <Bison> alright its time to start work
[03:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <BeepAU> stefg - that
[03:01] <gdb> hoehaver: It's not intuitive that there is additional configuration necessary after installing samba.
[03:01] <wthww> SonicChao: i will always be an00b, i have no god complex or am i afraid to be "owned" lol
[03:01] <BeepAU> stefg -- that's delete a partition. that ok?
[03:01] <hoehaver> i did watch my language
[03:01] <rodelrod> is security.ubuntu.com down or something? my install just failed to verify that source and automatically commented it out from /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <gdb> Anyway, I need to head out for work.  I'll catch everyone later.
[03:01] <hoehaver> i read ever sentence
[03:01] <BeepAU> stefg -- which one?
[03:01] <hoehaver> but i used starts
[03:02] <stefg> BeepAU: yes , give '7' first
[03:02] <SonicChao> wthww: Lol...I'm still pretty n00bish myself ;)
[03:02] <wthww> SonicChao: same here lol
[03:02] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok, it seems to have one less now, keep going?
[03:02] <jkelly2005> rodelrod: yes, im having trouble with security.ubuntu.com too.
[03:02] <roy> can u help me?
[03:02] <stefg> yup 6 now
[03:02] <SonicChao> wthww: I've been using it for 3-4 months, but have no real reason to configure X or something like that.
[03:02] <syntaxx> what ubuntu should i need to download for a desktop with a some servers in it. desktop or server?
[03:02] <BeepAU> stefg - again?
[03:02] <wthww> SonicChao: i went head first into unix though-- i started on netbsd and use a combination on NetBSD and Ubuntu
[03:03] <SonicChao> roy: What's your problem?
[03:03] <stefg> BeepAU: you get the idea... count back to 3 and see if it passes without errors
[03:03] <SonicChao> wthww: Heh, this was my first distro, if you count puppy linux ;)
[03:03] <SonicChao> if you don't count*
[03:03] <rodelrod> jkelly2005: ok, just checking if the problem wasn't on my side
[03:03] <GUARDiAN|nb> i need to tell a certain app that my system-charset ist not "utf-8" but "iso-8859-1". how can i do this?
[03:03] <wthww> SonicChao: i know how to install and config X-- lol. that was a *serious* brain bash
[03:03] <BeepAU> stefg - it said 5 has empty type
[03:03] <syntaxx> what ubuntu should i need to download for a desktop with a some servers in it. desktop or server?
[03:04] <jko> why is there unauthentified updates on dapper ?
[03:04] <FliesLikeWork> syntaxx: desktop
[03:04] <seraphim> syntaxx: a server-installation is without gui
[03:04] <stefg> that's right, cos it's the extended one... shot it
[03:04] <SonicChao> wthww: Hehe...I just like when Ubuntu does it for me. =)
[03:04] <FliesLikeWork> er syntaxx do you plan to have a GUI on it?
[03:04] <SonicChao> wthww: If I needed to bad enough, I could probably figure it out.
[03:04] <BeepAU> stefg -- what should i do?
[03:04] <BeepAU> stefg -- skip to 4?
[03:04] <intelligi> Should I install all the updates?
[03:04] <wildman> wthww, one thing's for sure: that post is the same problem I'm having with Acrobat ;)
[03:04] <frogzoo> jko: apt-get update   & make sure to get the security updates, for the md5s methinks
[03:04] <stefg> Beep: delete the partition if he lets you, if not go on with 4
[03:05] <syntaxx> FliesLikeABrick: well yeah for surfing purposes
[03:05] <SonicChao> Is it possible to create a 'Computer' launcher on the desktop?
[03:05] <ChronicWanker> hey, anyone know if there's a way to change the size of the system menu in 6.06?
[03:05] <FliesLikeWork> yeah syntaxx get desktop then
[03:05] <wildman> wthww, is there a way to rebuild the fonts cache?
[03:05] <inv0lved> ubuntu 6.0.6.1?
[03:05] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: right clicck the menu and press Properties
[03:05] <BeepAU> stefg -- 4 deleted, the new 4 (5) is still there, move to 3 or what?
[03:06] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: It should say "Size: xx pixels"
[03:06] <syntaxx> FliesLikeABrick: ok if i download the server i could possibly install desktop too if i want?
[03:06] <wthww_> dial-up is fun no?
[03:06] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: Just make the amount of pixels biger and your done
[03:06] <frogzoo> wthww_: is this a trick question?
[03:06] <FliesLikeWork> yeah syntaxx both are flexible
[03:06] <stefg> BeepAU: yup... delete what you can, the order isn't that much important now
[03:06] <ChronicWanker> SonicChao, i see no properties when i right-click
[03:06] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: You ment the top menu right?
[03:06] <stefg> BeepAU: but keep sda1 and 2 of course
[03:06] <wthww_> depends on your connection frogxoo
[03:06] <seraphim> syntaxx: it's all the same, only the programs that get installed by default differ
[03:06] <FliesLikeWork> syntaxx: if we're just talking about a webserver or a couple other things, I'd install the desktop then set up the servers later
[03:06] <Tuxbaby> wildman: there is a way to rebuild font cache
[03:06] <ChronicWanker> yep
[03:06] <califfo>  is there anyone using ktorrent and having "not connectable" problems even if firewall rules are properly set?
[03:06] <wthww_> *frogzoo
[03:06] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: The one with "Applications, Places, System"
[03:07] <ChronicWanker> yep
[03:07] <BeepAU> stefg - 3 + 4 have empty type, what should I do with them?
[03:07] <gostview> hi all, a good midi player?
[03:07] <stefg> BeepAU: try to dlete them, too
[03:07] <wildman> Tuxbaby, would you be kind enough to tell me how?
[03:07] <ChronicWanker> there is an "edit menu" option
[03:07] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: I see a "Properties", I was doing it as I was telling you to make sure I got it right
[03:07] <wthww_> gostview: midi plugin for XMMS
[03:07] <syntaxx> FliesLikeWork: ok thanks
[03:07] <ChronicWanker> hmmm
[03:07] <Tuxbaby> sudo fc-cache -f -v wildman
[03:07] <seraphim> syntaxx: so if you install the desktop you just have to add the server-stuff. if you install a server you have to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <SonicChao> !midi > gostview
[03:07] <wildman> Tuxbaby, can I run that while on X? or I better go to the console?
[03:07] <BeepAU> stefg - it won't let me, just says "Warning: partition 3 has empty type"
[03:07] <Tuxbaby> do it in x
[03:08] <wthww_> !gnome > wthww
[03:08] <ChronicWanker> SonicChao, you aren't talking about the top panel, are you?
[03:08] <Tuxbaby> doesnt matter really
[03:08] <wildman> Tuxbaby, doing it now, thx.
[03:08] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: Yes, I am.
[03:08] <stefg> BeepAU: then give p and see what it looks like now
[03:08] <Tuxbaby> no problem
[03:08] <roy> can u help me? i d/l wifi radar
[03:08] <maan84> Hello, I just downloaded GDM-GnomeBlack.tar.gz and when I try to use install in the theme manager it gives me invalid format, how do I install this? Thank you
[03:08] <gostview> wthww> this include XMMS to install, I would something integrated in gnome
[03:08] <ChronicWanker> SonicChao, i'm wondering about the actual menu itself...i know you can change the size of the panel
[03:08] <syntaxx> seraphim: ok whats the wm of the desktop?
[03:08] <roy> but i can't install it
[03:08] <juke4> Hi all! Does anyone have any issues with updating Ubuntu, I get the following with Nautilus: W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nautilus/libnautilus-extension1_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:08] <juke4>   404 Not Found
[03:08] <juke4> W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nautilus/nautilus-data_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[03:08] <juke4>   404 Not Found
[03:08] <seraphim> gnome
[03:08] <juke4> W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nautilus/nautilus_2.14.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:08] <juke4>   404 Not Found
[03:08] <hoehaver> how do i mount my 2nd hard drive in a term?
[03:08] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: Ahh...I'm not sure about that one.
[03:08] <ChronicWanker> SonicChao, i dont like all the extra white space around the menu text
[03:08] <gostview> !midi
[03:08] <roy> i need it because i can't coneect wirelessly from my laptop
[03:08] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[03:08] <gnomefreak> juke4: stop
[03:08] <ChronicWanker> hmmm
[03:08] <stefg> !paste > juke
[03:08] <SonicChao> !pastebin > juke4
[03:08] <ChronicWanker> SonicChao, well thanks anyway
[03:09] <seraphim> kubuntu-desktop is kde and xubuntu-desktop is xfwm
[03:09] <SonicChao> juke4: Please don't flood the channel
[03:09] <klapmuetz> can I dist-upgrade a debian woody or whatever to a ubuntu dapper?
[03:09] <syntaxx> seraphim: ic but i can use kde instead of gnome right?
[03:09] <SonicChao> ChronicWanker: Sorry about not knowning. =(
[03:09] <ChronicWanker> thats ok
[03:09] <gnomefreak> seraphim: xfce
[03:09] <juke4> sorry, wasn't my intention
[03:09] <seraphim> thx ;)
[03:09] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:09] <seraphim> syntaxx: yes, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then
[03:09] <gnomefreak> xfwm is the window manager ;0
[03:09] <BeepAU> stefg -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19589
[03:09] <seraphim> he asked for the wm :P
[03:09] <juke4> just wanted to post my issue
[03:09] <zsh> hallo. is anyone having trouble accessing http://security.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <SonicChao> juke4: Ok, =) jsut remember to use a pastebin, and your be fine =)
[03:10] <juke4> k
[03:10] <hoehaver> how do i add my second hard drive ni a term?
[03:10] <hoehaver> in*
[03:10] <SonicChao> juke4: Paste it again, this time here: http://pastebin.ca
[03:10] <wildman> Tuxbaby, did it and got: fc-cache: succeeded at the end
[03:10] <wildman> Tuxbaby, I guess fonts cache is rebuilt ;)
[03:10] <roy> can you help me install from usb the wifi radar ?
[03:10] <stefg> BeepAU: brilliant :-) ... now type 'w'
[03:10] <Tuxbaby> ye it should do, wildman
[03:10] <syntaxx> seraphim: im using debian though but the problem is the new package or new stable release isnt updated need to backports for me to use the latest release
[03:10] <wthww_> wildman: lemme know how it goes
[03:10] <wildman> wthww_, it doesn't :-|
[03:11] <scarabatwork> Hello, everyone.  I was wondering if anyone can tell me if Ubuntu provides support for Emulex HBA drivers?
[03:11] <gostview> tnx all
[03:11] <hoehaver> HOW do i mount my second hard drive in a term :(
[03:11] <Tuxbaby> dangit. just updated my system and cgw is gone!! baah
[03:11] <wthww_> wildman: re-install Reader?
[03:11] <wildman> wthww_, still get the pango errors... (and yes, pango was one of the many updates installed today)
[03:11] <wildman> wthww_, that's what I thought to do next
[03:11] <wildman> wthww_, I'll wipe it all (config and all) and reinstall
[03:11] <wildman> wthww_, will keep you posted
[03:11] <BeepAU> stefg --http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19590 , is this good?
[03:11] <wildman> Tuxbaby, thx BTW ;-)
[03:11] <wthww_> wildman: good idea. if that doest clear it, it may be a valid bug
[03:12] <Tuxbaby> pleasure
[03:12] <roy> can you help me please?..
[03:12] <gilianima> once phpbb2 package is installed, where to go to configure it ?
[03:12] <maan84> I'm trying to unpack *.tar.gz file to /usr/share/themes but says I don't have permission, can I do this by the terminal with sudo somehow?
[03:12] <revenant_ubuntu> hi there ! how to setup the default alsa card ? I have a camera that has sound card built-in, and alsa keeps choosing it as the default sound card while I want my motherboard card to be the default
[03:12] <syntaxx> seraphim: thanks is there a netinstall ubuntu like from debian though?
[03:12] <Tuxbaby> do a sudo revenant_ubuntu
[03:12] <roy> ?
[03:12] <wildman> wthww_, I'm sure it's a newly introduced bug cuz acroread isn't the only app having that pb as the posts show... there are others too.
[03:12] <SonicChao> roy: WHAT. is. your. problem!?!?
[03:12] <wthww_> wildman: yeah. lol
[03:12] <wildman> wthww_, but on a 'desperate' attempt to fix, I'll reinstall acrobat
[03:13] <hoehaver> can someone please answer my question
[03:13] <revenant_ubuntu> sudo followed by what ?
[03:13] <stefg> BeepAU: this is the usual reminder... so you just got rid of the old mess :-)... Good for a new start :-)
[03:13] <cowmilk2> i can't seem to be able to download libxine-extracodecs. i get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19586
[03:13] <hoehaver> does any one know how to mount a second hard drive in a termenal
[03:13] <seraphim> syntaxx: no. only the live and the alternate-cd
[03:13] <wthww_> wildman: if all else fails, you can use Oo.o to import/export them :P
[03:13] <cowmilk2> can someone tell my why i can't download that package?
[03:13] <Tuxbaby> sudo followed by your command to untar it to your dir
[03:13] <syntaxx> seraphim: whats an alternate cd?
[03:13] <wildman> wthww_, remember, the pb is in acrobat's menus (And all fonts it uses) not in the PDFs ;)
[03:13] <BeepAU> stefg - awesome. when i re-install, should i put in noapix acpi=off? as that's what started me in this mess
[03:13] <hoehaver> sudo /mount/hedia/hda2?????????????????????????????????????????????/
[03:13] <califfo> cowmilk2 , same happened to me, i downloaded it from site
[03:13] <hoehaver> media*
[03:13] <BeepAU> stefg -- not putting those in, i mean.
[03:14] <wildman> wthww_, PDFs are fine, the app's menus not.
[03:14] <roy> sonic: sorry, i didnt see. i need to install wifi-radar from USB on my laptop. That's because my wireless connection won't work
[03:14] <revenant_ubuntu> I think you messed up .. I am talking about alsa sound problem Tuxbaby
[03:14] <maan84> I'm trying to unpack *.tar.gz file to /usr/share/themes but says I don't have permission, can I do this by the terminal with sudo somehow?
[03:14] <cowmilk2> califfo: isn't it messy to download from the site?
[03:14] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[03:14] <wthww_> wildman:yeah, but at leastr youll have menus that are readable in Oo.o :P
[03:14] <seraphim> the live-cd works like knoppix, the alternate cd has the wellknown blue installer
[03:14] <wildman> wthww_, hopefully ;)
[03:14] <Tuxbaby> yes you can do
[03:14] <califfo> I just told you my solution
[03:14] <roy> .
[03:14] <wthww_> lol
[03:14] <gnomefreak> hoehaver: ok enough when someone knows they will answer you if you really cant wait than look it up in forums or wiki.ubuntu.com please
[03:14] <califfo> cowmilk2  I just told you my solution
[03:14] <Tuxbaby> sudo *.tar.gz file to /usr/share/themes
[03:14] <wildman> wthww_, OOo menus are readable I can confirm that now ;)
[03:15] <maan84> thank you
[03:15] <stefg> BeepAU: acpi=off wasn't probably a clever idea... but reboot now and boot again with the CD to verify taht everything went alright
[03:15] <drayen> Chousuke: bugger - looks like you need the alternative cdrom to do an upgrade from an exsisting install :(
[03:15] <wthww_> wildman:lol
[03:15] <revenant_ubuntu> how to setup the default alsa card ? I have a camera that has sound card built-in, and alsa keeps choosing it as the default sound card while I want my motherboard card to be the default ?? any suggestion !
[03:15] <hoehaver> gnomefreak someone may see if if i ask the question once but they may over look it
[03:15] <hoehaver> if i ask it multipal times then.......yeah
[03:15] <gnomefreak> hoehaver: give it 5 mins in between asking
[03:16] <BeepAU> stefg -- why not? it told me to boot again with it like that, which i did, and it was fine, i just had little space.
[03:16] <hoehaver> fair enough
[03:16] <jko> http://security.ubuntu.com/ seems down
[03:16] <jko> is it ?
[03:16] <cowmilk2> califfo: and i just asked a question
[03:16] <stefg> BeepAU: this little extra time won't hurt... be safe
[03:16] <roy> i tried to connect thorugh wired modem now. it writes that packets are transffered, but mozila and gaim are not working
[03:16] <maan84> ~/Desktop$ sudo GDM-GnomeBlack.tar.gz file to /usr/share/themes/  doesn't seem to work, get comment not found?
[03:16] <fholmes> I am getting something weird in my syslog.  Just a bunch of -- MARK --.  Can anyone tell me what that is?  A search on Google turned up nothing.
[03:16] <BeepAU> stefg -- could you rephrase that please?
[03:17] <seraphim> jko: if you try multiple times you get through sometimes
[03:17] <stefg> BeepAU: don't start the installation now, but reboot please
[03:17] <shawnr_> jko, itsw just slow. too a while for me to connected and updated
[03:17] <BeepAU> stefg -- ok, rebooting now.
[03:18] <Shinzetsu> Im having troubles installing libxine-extracodecs
[03:18] <jkelly2005> anyone having trouble going to ubuntuforums.org? seems like its down. security.ubuntu.com is down too by the looks of it.
[03:18] <shawnr_> wow huge update
[03:18] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[03:18] <cowmilk2> Shinzetsu: how did you get it?
[03:18] <cowmilk2> i can't get it
[03:18] <Shinzetsu> Problem: http://pastecode.com/2489
[03:18] <Shinzetsu> I cant install it
[03:18] <cowmilk2> Shinzetsu: neither can i
[03:19] <shawnr_> i did yesterdat
[03:19] <maan84> ~/Desktop$ sudo GDM-GnomeBlack.tar.gz file to /usr/share/themes/  doesn't seem to work, get command not found? Can anyone help
[03:19] <no_gatez_fan> does ubuntu have boult in support for ATI Express video cards (X800 SE)?
[03:19] <no_gatez_fan> built
[03:19] <califfo> cowmilk2 Shinzetsu : http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[03:20] <Shinzetsu> califfo: cheers mate
[03:20] <ricardo> now....has anybody installed kernel 2.6.15-26-686?
[03:20] <no_gatez_fan> anyone know?
[03:20] <califfo> google is you friend
[03:20] <Tuxbaby> i have that kernel
[03:21] <mastastealth> i have it on my laptop
[03:21] <califfo> Shinzetsu : it could be messy to download :D
[03:21] <shawnr_> Shinzetsu, did you try "sudo apt-get --force-yes install packagename"  ?
[03:21] <hoehaver> does anyone know how to mount a second hard drive in a term. im using 6.06
[03:21] <Tuxbaby> didnt want to upgrade as my ati driver is not supported for 2.6.17
[03:21] <Shinzetsu> shawnr_: nope
[03:21] <maan84> I'm just trying to unpack a tar.gz file to a folder can't anyone help with this? Should be rather easy
[03:21] <Tuxbaby> so no compiz if its not supported
[03:22] <califfo> maan84 : man tar
[03:22] <Shinzetsu> shawnr_ califfo: I got it now though
[03:22] <scarabatwork> We have an IBM DS4800 SAN and are looking to implement Ubuntu server as an email server with data store on that SAN.  Can anyone tell me if there is support for the HBA cards in ubuntu server?
[03:22] <shawnr_> Shinzetsu, how did you get it?
[03:22] <mastastealth> hoehaver, sudo mount /dev/hdax /mnt/hdax where x is the number...
[03:22] <califfo> shawnr_ http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[03:22] <Shinzetsu> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb
[03:22] <mastastealth> of course, you gotta make that /mnt/hdax folder urself, if it doesnt exist
[03:22] <Shinzetsu> For x86, that is
[03:23] <shawnr_> Ahh, funny why you couldn't do it through apt-get
[03:23] <Tuxbaby> http://www.computerhope.com/unix/utar.htm linux commands
[03:23] <califfo> dunno
[03:23] <Shinzetsu> shawnr_: yeah =/
[03:23] <califfo> any ktorrent users?
[03:23] <hoehaver> mastastealth ....how do i make that folder
[03:23] <Tuxbaby> not me.
[03:23] <Tuxbaby> mkdir
[03:23] <mastastealth> hoehaver: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdax
[03:24] <hoehaver> thank you :)
[03:24] <wildman> wthww_, reinstalled, same problem. Updated pango/cairo/fonts pkgs have a bug
[03:24] <wildman> wthww_, :-|
[03:24] <wthww_> wildman:| so sad
[03:25] <mastastealth> are the security.ubuntu.com repos down for anyone else?
[03:25] <Toma-> anyone know where i can get some info on a multi-buttoned mouse? ive no idea what to google...
[03:25] <Tuxbaby> try MX1000 google it
[03:25] <Tuxbaby> you will like it
[03:25] <FliesLikeWork> yeah mastastealth they're up but lagged badly
[03:25] <wildman> wthww_, well... I'll live with it for now cuz I cannot stop working, but I doubt Ubuntu will end on the shinny new Dell laptop waiting for me at the office... I might go back to my old love
[03:25] <tr1gg3r> anyone here with a latitude d820 get hibernate working? if so how?
[03:25] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[03:26] <maan84> Thank you, now I got it to extract with  sudo tar -xvvzf GDM-GnomeBlack.tar.gz though how do I get it to /usr/share/themes/ ?
[03:26] <Tuxbaby> its a mouse with 12 buttons
[03:26] <wildman> wthww_, no, it's not XP, don't worry ;)
[03:26] <FliesLikeWork> and by "lagged badly" I mean they take 1-3 minutes to respond to a connection
[03:26] <Tuxbaby> there you go maan84
[03:26] <mastastealth>  :O
[03:26] <maan84> :P
[03:26] <nocturn> Can anyone help me with a printing problem?
[03:26] <wthww_> wildman: lol. ittl get fixed soo how much ua wanna bet
[03:26] <Mercury> Tuxbaby: Would be a better choice if it could be used left handed, but otherwise. :)
[03:27] <thejusticecow> (noob question) how do i run an apt-get allready installed application such as xchat-gnome from the terminal?
[03:27] <wthww_> *soon
[03:27] <wildman> wthww_, gotcha, I hope so, and I'm not a bets man ;)
[03:27] <Tuxbaby> lfet handed. hmmm. now i dont know much about it
[03:27] <FliesLikeWork> thejusticecow: just type xchat or xchat & to run it in the background
[03:27] <Tuxbaby> ehe sorry
[03:27] <Tuxbaby> try xchat in terminal
[03:27] <Tuxbaby> it should work
[03:27] <wthww_> thejusticecow: type its name and press enter/
[03:27] <BeepAU> stefg -- i'm back
[03:28] <mnp> does anyone use Electricsheep?
[03:28] <hoehaver> mastastealth   john@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[03:28] <hoehaver> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:28] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$
[03:28] <FliesLikeWork> hoehaver: add -t ext3 (or whatever fs you're using) before /dev/hda4
[03:28] <mastastealth> do u know what filesystem it has?
[03:28] <wthww_> SonicChao: you have direcway satelllite interent?
[03:28] <SonicChao> wthww_: Yes.
[03:28] <hoehaver> um...i can go to properties....ooo extention.....3
[03:28] <hoehaver> i think
[03:28] <hoehaver> hold on
[03:29] <SonicChao> wthww_: If your asking, with a little tweaking, it works great in Ubuntu. =D
[03:29] <wthww_> SonicChao: you loaded? its like 80$ a month lol
[03:29] <laurent33> server irc.voila.fr
[03:29] <Evil_Ed`> sup
[03:29] <buntu418> hey guys how to remove the mounted volumes icon from the desktop
[03:29] <SonicChao> wthww_: lol
[03:29] <SonicChao> wthww_: We can't get nothing else here.
[03:29] <Tuxbaby> unmount it
[03:29] <buntu418> without unmounting
[03:29] <wthww_> SonicChao: Dial-up :P
[03:30] <SonicChao> wthww_: My dad likes the phone free.
[03:30] <SonicChao> wthww_: And we like the speed of broadband.
[03:30] <FliesLikeWork> SonicChao: wthww_ #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps?
[03:30] <BeepAU> stefg -- hello?
[03:30] <wthww_> FliesLikeWork:yeah,
[03:30] <hoehaver> loi got lost
[03:30] <hoehaver> just a sec
[03:31] <roy_lp> can u tell me how i open the source files so i paste them my new sources?
[03:31] <roy_lp> im from the laptop btw! :)
[03:31] <cowmilk2> i'm having problems syncing my ipod with gtkpod
[03:31] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: are you on gnome?
[03:31] <roy_lp> im on ubuntu
[03:31] <cowmilk2> gtkpod is giving me this warning message: '"iPod directory structure must be present before" "synching to the iPod can be performed"
[03:31] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: or are you familiar with nano?
[03:31] <cowmilk2> what can i do?
[03:31] <Shinzetsu> When I try to install a package it says <packages> was installed and it does nothing more, the bar is full, and in the terminal it says Extracting <package>
[03:32] <Evil_Ed`> private
[03:32] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: ok, press Alt + F2, then type gksu gedit
[03:32] <roy_lp> im new. i installed ubuntu from live CD
[03:32] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: then open file /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:32] <roy_lp> thanks
[03:32] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: np, any problems, just ask
[03:32] <uche_> morning all
[03:32] <ricardo> now....has anybody installed kernel 2.6.15-26-686?
[03:32] <Tuxbaby> evening herer
[03:32] <BeepAU> STEFG!!!
[03:32] <uche_> I've googled, read docs, read the FAQ and tried a lot of things
[03:32] <CarinGrr> ricardo, aye
[03:33] <maan84> Why won't sudo tar -xvvzf /usr/share/themes/GDM-GnomeBlack.tar.gz unpack it to /usr/share/themes/ ?
[03:33] <uche_> I can't figure out how to install desktop with LVM
[03:33] <FliesLikeWork> I have ricardo but I have not rebooted into it yet
[03:33] <roy_lp> can you give me the full command for the prompt ?
[03:33] <roy_lp> sudo open /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't open
[03:33] <CarinGrr> ricardo, what i'm running at th emoment, why?
[03:33] <ricardo> CarinGrr: for me it just wont load pcmcia drivers....
[03:33] <uche_> I figure now that I have to install server and then "upgrade" to desktop?
[03:33] <Tuxbaby> sudo gedit
[03:33] <CarinGrr> ricardo, worked fine before?
[03:33] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: sudo gedit
[03:33] <ricardo> yep...
[03:34] <roy_lp> thanks
[03:34] <roy_lp> trying
[03:34] <CarinGrr> ricardo, i'm not using any pcmcia stuff at the moment i'm afraid so i can't test it
[03:34] <ricardo> CarinGrr: im typing from kernel 2.6.15-23-686?
[03:34] <Hexidigital_> Tuxbaby: sorry about the double reply :)
[03:34] <nocturn> Can anyone help me with a printing problem (USB Id does not associate with usblp driver)
[03:34] <Arafanger> Why might apt-get appear to hang for _much_ longer than usual at the 'getting headers' stage of apt-get install ... ?
[03:34] <roy_lp> it worked thanks guys
[03:35] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger: do you have your headers installed?
[03:35] <roy_lp> i have another question
[03:35] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: np
[03:35] <Tuxbaby> welcome roy_lp
[03:35] <Hexidigital_> roy_lp: go ahead
[03:35] <roy_lp> ok its fine too :)
[03:35] <Arafanger> Hexidigital_: You're thinking of the wrong kind of header ;)
[03:35] <roy_lp> so last one
[03:35] <roy_lp> im now connected from laptop with wired modem
[03:35] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger: ah, now i know what you mean... what repos are you using?
[03:35] <roy_lp> this lap ha also a wirelss one, but it can't connect from any hotspot
[03:36] <roy_lp> i've been told to d/l wifi-radar
[03:36] <roy_lp> is it correct ?
[03:36] <Tuxbaby> whats the driver
[03:36] <AngryElf> does the ubuntu install cd have a rescue option that will let me reinstall GRUB if i were to install windows -- effectively deleting the MBR?
[03:36] <Hexidigital_> !info wifi-radar
[03:36] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.9.6-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 200 kB
[03:36] <Tuxbaby> whats the wifi card
[03:36] <mnp> apt-get is getting hung up on a program that i already installed. its saying it needs to be reinstalled but i dont want it to
[03:36] <Tuxbaby> broadcom?
[03:36] <mnp> how can i get rid of that error in apt-get?
[03:36] <Tuxbaby> do an lspci and see whats the wifi modem
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger: i'm getting a slow "waiting for headers"
[03:37] <roy_lp> hnn
[03:37] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[03:37] <hoehaver> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:37] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$
[03:37] <roy_lp> i can't tell its not my computer
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger: on the us.archives repo
[03:37] <roy_lp> is there any way to check ?
[03:37] <hoehaver> the file system on my second hard drive is fat
[03:37] <Arafanger> Hexidigital_: It appears to be hanging on security.ubuntu.org
[03:37] <hoehaver> how do i do this?
[03:37] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[03:37] <dngldoo1> hey, can anyone help me with configuring JACK and ALSA
[03:37] <Tuxbaby> yes. type lspci
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> hoehaver: put it on a diet?
[03:37] <Arafanger> Hexidigital_: .com, that is, not the .org.
[03:37] <ic56> AngryElf: yes, but the process isn't automated.  You'll need to get yourself a command line and issue grub commands manually.
[03:37] <hoehaver>  i tryed typing fat in. vfat, fat32
[03:37] <hoehaver> nothing works
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger: yes, mine also
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger: us.archives.ubuntu.com
[03:38] <uche_> Is there a better channel to ask installer questions?
[03:38] <cowmilk2> how can i do a chown on the mounted ipod?
[03:38] <cowmilk2> what command should i use?
[03:38] <hoehaver> hexidigital funny
[03:38] <Hexidigital_> hoehaver: :)
[03:38] <hoehaver> its fat 32
[03:38] <Tuxbaby> is there a better search engine than google
[03:38] <cbx33> Tuxbaby, if there is I havn't found it
[03:38] <JohnRobert> how can I add items to the gnome menu? The alacarte menu editor doesn't seem to allow me to do that
[03:38] <uche_> I tried using the alternative CD to create the LVM partitions, but then the Desktop installer doesn';t recognize the partitions
[03:38] <uche_> I expect it does not include the needed kernel modules
[03:39] <Tuxbaby> good. cbx33
[03:39] <QuestionMarkCoun> hi *
[03:39] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[03:39] <hoehaver> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:39] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$
[03:39] <hoehaver> what file system is it talking about
[03:40] <hoehaver> for my master or the slave
[03:40] <FliesLikeWork> hoehaver: we already told you the last time you pasted that
[03:40] <hoehaver> you did...
[03:40] <FliesLikeWork> what filesystem is on the partition you're trying to mount?
[03:40] <roy_lp> i updated my sources but i can't find ECLIPSE
[03:40] <Tuxbaby> roy_lp: try this command lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[03:40] <longwave> hoehaver: filesystem type is ext2, fat32, ntfs, something like that..
[03:40] <Hexidigital_> are the US repos down (again)?
[03:40] <longwave> hoehaver: you need to use the -t switch to mount to tell it what type is on that partition
[03:40] <FliesLikeWork> er longwave do you mean vfat instead of fat32
[03:40] <FliesLikeWork> ?
[03:40] <Tuxbaby> if you have broadcom then it will show you the version
[03:40] <roy_lp> i tried it
[03:41] <FliesLikeWork> Hexidigital_: security.ubuntu.com seems to be having issues
[03:41] <roy_lp> nothing happend tuxbaby
[03:41] <longwave> well, fat32 is the name of the filesystem, just linux calls it vfat :)
[03:41] <Hexidigital_> FliesLikeABrick::  ty for the info :)
[03:41] <hoehaver> fat
[03:41] <Hexidigital_> Arafanger::  there's our answer...
[03:41] <Tuxbaby> try lspci alone
[03:41] <Tuxbaby> and check for the wifi card
[03:41] <hoehaver> yeah, its fat32
[03:41] <FliesLikeWork> k hoehaver add -t vfat before /dev/hda4
[03:42] <hoehaver> ok
[03:42] <cowmilk2> when i plug in my ipod, where in the filesysem is it located?
[03:42] <no_gatez_fan> does ubuntu have built in support for ATI Express video cards or at least video acc. and the dvi output(X800 SE)?
[03:42] <roy_lp> please help me also with the sources to Eclipse. I need it
[03:43] <g33k0> hey
[03:43] <g33k0> yo
[03:43] <fra> hello
[03:43] <fra> I try to shape mine g7 with locomo -- 800 and receive error 001.002: 046d:c51a Unsupported device Logitech: p7??????$?
[03:43] <g33k0> omg
[03:43] <Pecisk_> !xgl
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:44] <g33k0> someone else owns this nick
[03:44] <g33k0> grrrrrrrrrrr
[03:44] <elge> what email should I use to ask some new feature in the "Free CD shipping" web form ?
[03:44] <sioux> hi
[03:44] <g33k0> where can i get debian cds?
[03:44] <roy_lp> !Eclipse
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about Eclipse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:44] <elge> or regular basis cdroms shipping to my org ?
[03:44] <g33k0> anyone?
[03:44] <hoehaver> flieslikework john@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[03:44] <hoehaver> mount: special device /dev/hda4 does not exist
[03:44] <FuriousRage> elge: read above, it tells you what account you need..
[03:44] <FliesLikeWork> www.debian.org g33k0
[03:44] <fra> someone know locomo?
[03:44] <FliesLikeWork> hoehaver: it sounds like you have bigger issues, the partition does not appear to exist
[03:45] <rellim> anyone else not able to update from security.ubuntu.com right now?
[03:45] <g33k0> FliesLikeWork do they ship to SA?
[03:45] <g33k0> grrrrrrrrrr
[03:45] <fra> its a logitech mouse control for linux
[03:45] <hoehaver> ..but it does exist. i can mount it in system>admin> disk
[03:45] <Dimensions> hi ... is there any one from uk who can help me use my nokia6230 fone as GPRS modem ?
[03:45] <hoehaver> but i can only mount it to my desktop
[03:45] <roy_lp> can we help me install linux ?
[03:45] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[03:45] <drayen> rellim: yeah im haveing issues too
[03:45] <hoehaver> and when i do that i ...well, its wacky like that
[03:46] <fis> anybody else having problems with security.ubunty.org?
[03:46] <rellim> drayen: ok, thanks ... just wanted to make sure i wasn't having the issue and their server is ... probably just heavy load because the update just came out today
[03:46] <QuestionMarkCoun> hoehaver: what tells `fdisk -l /dev/hda`
[03:46] <Hadar> Can you help me install ECLIPSE ?
[03:46] <fis> nc -z security.ubuntu.com 80  works, but after ack package no traffic no more...
[03:46] <rellim> fis: yeah, i am
[03:46] <ic56> g33k0: debian.org doesn't ship.  But there are many companies who burn debian CDs and sell them.  google is your friend.
[03:47] <rellim> fis: i think it is just under heavy load from everyone getting the update
[03:47] <fis> are there mirrors?
[03:47] <sioux> hi people in gnome compiz+xgl is a dream but in kde i can't get border on windows I see compiz effects but no borders on windows
[03:47] <tam> what is the easiest way in ubuntu to hold back a kernel so apt-get won't upgrade it?
[03:47] <elge> FuriousRage, where above ?  I'm going a wget -r -O - | grep '@' ...
[03:47] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:47] <hoehaver> Cannot open /dev/hda
[03:47] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$
[03:47] <fis> funny that it's only the security server, though.
[03:47] <hoehaver> should i make it hda4?
[03:47] <stefg> !ping
[03:47] <ubotu> pong
[03:48] <QuestionMarkCoun> sudo fdisk....
[03:48] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda4
[03:48] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$
[03:48] <Hadar> My Q: I updated my sourcs with source-o-matic. but when trying to get Eclipse from APT-GET i get this msg: E: Couldn't find package eclipse
[03:48] <nocturn> Does anyone know how to specify a deviceid when loading usblp?
[03:48] <FuriousRage> elge: i assume you mean at this page https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ ?
[03:48] <stefg> nocturn: apt-cache search eclipse ... maybe the name is slightly different
[03:49] <elge> FuriousRage, yeah
[03:49] <FuriousRage> elge: read above, says what account you need to log in there
[03:49] <Hadar> Can u help me with this: I updated my sourcs with source-o-matic, BUT when trying to get Eclipse from APT-GET i get this msg: "E: Couldn't find package eclipse"
[03:49] <stefg> Hadar: apt-cache search eclipse ... maybe the name is slightly different
[03:49] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:49] <hoehaver> Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
[03:49] <hoehaver> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders
[03:49] <hoehaver> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:49] <hoehaver>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:49] <fis> rellim / anybody: thanks.  (would be interesting to know whether the security updates server is a separate host, and what ubuntu is planning to do abou this.  i guess i'll just wait a few hours.)
[03:49] <hoehaver> /dev/hda1   *           1        4905    39399381   83  Linux
[03:49] <hoehaver> /dev/hda2            4906        4998      747022+   5  Extended
[03:49] <drayen> rellim: ahhhh okay, im trying to fully upgrade from breezy
[03:49] <hoehaver> /dev/hda5            4906        4998      746991   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:49] <hoehaver> john@ubuntu:~$
[03:49] <stefg> !paste
[03:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:49] <hoehaver> WOW....sorry
[03:49] <shawnr_> !timestep
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about timestep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:50] <Hadar> stefg: i just did so on another computer and it worked
[03:50] <nocturn> stefg: Elcipse is a development environment nu?
[03:50] <nocturn> stefg: You mean looking through the source...
[03:50] <stefg> Hadar: did you sudo apt-get update with the new sources.list :-)
[03:50] <nocturn> hadn't though about it
[03:50] <Hadar> one line i recieve is: ecj-bootstrap-gcj - bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler (native version)
[03:50] <nocturn> Thanks
[03:50] <Hadar> no i didnt!! :):)
[03:50] <nocturn> I'm going to try somehting
[03:50] <Hadar> thanks!!!!
[03:51] <Hadar> but how to update ?
[03:51] <stefg> sudo apt-get update... to get all teh new package information first
[03:51] <Hadar> ok i managed :D
[03:51] <elge> FuriousRage, sorry I can't find any email there
[03:51] <elge> appart from grepping the web site
[03:51] <Hadar> really thanks stefg
[03:51] <g33k0> neone from SA?
[03:51] <LPby> http://www.goolook.ru/?ref_id=11389
[03:51] <FuriousRage> elge: its because there isnt, READ the text thats above there
[03:51] <Hadar> can i ask u another question ?
[03:51] <stefg> Hadar: that's a common catch :-)
[03:52] <Hadar> i came from mandriva i should rememered it ..
[03:52] <g33k0> where can i get debian shipped to me?
[03:52] <g33k0> or obtain cds in SA?
[03:52] <g33k0> south africa*
[03:52] <stefg> g33k0: at www.debian.org :-)
[03:52] <Hadar> g33ko did u try the website?
[03:53] <Hadar> g33ko if u have fast connection than u can download it..
[03:53] <elge> FuriousRage, I'm now logged in Launchpad.  still no email
[03:53] <Hadar> g33k: http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/#za
[03:54] <FuriousRage> elge: login with your launchpad account on that page, thats it
[03:54] <Hadar> stefg, do u think u can help me ith wireless connection ?
[03:54] <stefg> g33k0: i remember our SABDFL put 'freedom toasters' in South africa... maybe you'll be able to gert debian there
[03:54] <elge> FuriousRage, I need CDs on a regular basis, monthly.  without the need to fill in the form each month
[03:55] <stefg> !wifi > hadar
[03:55] <elge> FuriousRage, asking this to some email address seems relevant to me, instead of making some weired curl/crontab script
[03:55] <FuriousRage> elge: i dont think you can
[03:55] <Hadar> stefg: i got this msg: W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:55] <Hadar> after the update, and it still can't find eclipse
[03:56] <marco> Hi, all. i've got strange problem. since an apt-upgrade today i'n not able to mount nfs. error msg ist: "can't read superblock" ... Dist is dapper 6.06TLS
[03:56] <stefg> Hadar: yws, people are experiencing difficulties with the ubuntu-security repos atm.... But installing eclipse might now work anyway
[03:57] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[03:57] <Hexidigital_> marco::  did you do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[03:57] <Hexidigital_> FuriousRage::  live cd?
[03:57] <Hadar> stef: W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:57] <marco> Hexidigital_, yes
[03:57] <Hadar> soory i meant: E: Couldn't find package Eclipse
[03:57] <FuriousRage> Hexidigital_: ya that one you get from the download (since yesterday)
[03:57] <Hadar> and im sure its there because i d\l it this morning
[03:58] <Hadar> oh
[03:58] <Hadar> i did it! it eclipse not Eclipse
[03:58] <stefg> Hadar: welcome to the case sensitive world of Linux :-)
[03:58] <Dimensions> hi how do i use my nokia mobile as GPRS modem ?
[03:58] <Hadar> thanks stef :) im about 7 hours on the 2 computers, trying to install ubuntu and configure it ...
[03:59] <Hexidigital_> marco::  stupid question, but did you try a reboot?:
[03:59] <Hadar> and i should have been start my project that 7 hours ago...!
[03:59] <marco> Hexidigital_, several :(
[03:59] <stefg> Administrator rule #1: never try something important or dangerous when tired or p*ssed ! :-)
[03:59] <Hexidigital_> marco::  sorry, bud... i have no experience w/ nfs, but i'm sure many others here do :(
[04:00] <regoahr> Dimensions: use data cabel or irda :)
[04:00] <Hadar> correct ...
[04:00] <stefg> !nfs
[04:00] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:00] <Hexidigital_> stefg::  hey, that was left out of my manual!
[04:00] <marco> Hexidigital_, thnx
[04:00] <Hadar> stef, whats happens if i can't load windows after installing ubuntu ?
[04:00] <Dimensions> regoahr: ... configuration ?
[04:00] <Hadar> it says to insert bootaleCD
[04:01] <W_McL> looks like your bootloader is not configured correctly
[04:01] <stefg> Hexidigital_: that's in the editors note (written by Murphy) which is only in the deluxe version :-)
[04:01] <Hadar> oh no. what to do ?
[04:01] <regoahr> Dimensions: first : #dmesg and search you device
[04:01] <Dimensions> regoahr:  i have data cable and it says modem connected via usb ... i dial it does dial too but then it doesn't do any thing like browsing or any thing
[04:01] <Hexidigital_> stefg::  :)  i have the n00b version, apparently
[04:03] <W_McL> insert your ubuntu cd and say "boot from first harddisk" when it asks you what to do
[04:03] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions?
[04:04] <sk4jvoker> i have trouble with wine and Call of duty 1 , installs the first cd then asks for cd2 and i cant unmount cd1 to mount cd2 what to do?
[04:04] <regoahr> Dimensions: ?
[04:04] <Paradoxx> Is there any app i can use to get voice and video functionality with msn in linux?
[04:04] <Hexidigital_> Paradoxx::  did you try amsn?
[04:04] <Paradoxx> nope
[04:05] <Paradoxx> !amsn
[04:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:05] <Hexidigital_> Paradoxx::  afaik, it's the closest thing to msn messenger, althoug i'm not sure if it's video capable
[04:05] <Paradoxx> it has video and voice?
[04:05] <Hexidigital_> !info amsn
[04:05] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[04:05] <Hexidigital_> Paradoxx::  not sure
[04:05] <Nux31> is there a bittorrent site that I can download ubuntu ?
[04:06] <gatekeeper> Hexidigital_, don't remember amsn giving you voice and video?
[04:06] <Hexidigital_> gatekeeper::  i dont use amsn
[04:07] <gatekeeper> Paradoxx, I don't think so, don't remember it giving you that, has been a while since I last installed it
[04:07] <zimnyx> I got outgoing connections blocked, but i got proxy server available on localhost (i set up ssh tunel to some remote proxy). Is it possible to make outgoing ssh connections using this proxy?
[04:07] <sk4jvoker> i have trouble with wine and Call of duty 1 , installs the first cd then asks for cd2 and i cant unmount cd1 to mount cd2 what to do?
[04:07] <Dimensions> regoahr: it does find my device on ACM0
[04:07] <Hexidigital_> regoahr::  i am onmidesktop :)
[04:08] <regoahr> Hexidigital_: :)
[04:08] <Hadar> i booted the other computer with ubuntu and now i get this msg: "PLease insert bootable disk"
[04:08] <Hexidigital_> Hadar::  are you set to boot from CDROM?
[04:08] <Hadar> i have the liveCD and i pick boot from hard disk, but it stucks
[04:08] <Hadar> hex: yes
[04:08] <Hadar> and i can't change t
[04:08] <regoahr> Dimensions: use wvdial as dialer
[04:08] <Hadar> it
[04:09] <stefg> !boot
[04:09] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:09] <gatekeeper> Paradoxx, http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[04:09] <survivor> Hey.
[04:09] <Hadar> i eneterd the BIOS and the boot priority is from CD,floppy,hard drive
[04:09] <survivor> There's no svn included in the live cd, is it?
[04:09] <Dimensions> i do regoahr... i used wvdial as dialer and it gets connected via mobile
[04:09] <gatekeeper> Paradoxx, Hexidigital_ may be I am wrong?
[04:09] <Dimensions> but when i ping or any thing then its not reachable
[04:09] <Hadar> stef, but i can't load ubuntu as well....
[04:09] <Dimensions> i can't browse or any things
[04:09] <stefg> Hadar: read the link about the smart bootmanager Howto ubotu spit out
[04:09] <regoahr> Dimensions: write dns
[04:09] <cavediver> Hi there. My gnome-cups-add process hang when trying to install printer. What's that all about ?
[04:10] <survivor> Can I apt-get things into the RAM when I live-boot?
[04:10] <Hexidigital_> gatekeeper::  no voice/vid?
[04:10] <cocos_> hi, could someone please help me? when i do "sudo apt-get update" i get the following msg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19596
[04:10] <stefg> survivor: yes
[04:10] <Dimensions> regoahr:  can u tell me in detail pls ?
[04:10] <regoahr> Dimensions: default options: auto DNS = on
[04:10] <Dimensions> its a command ?
[04:10] <FuriousRage> i got a problem, when i boot of the ubuntu amd64 cd, it doesnt get any ip address, so i can download updates nor do anything, but it does get an addr6 ip of some sort, any suggestions? (i use the onboard lan connection on my mobo (nForce4))
[04:11] <regoahr> Dimensions: do you reciev my private messages ?
[04:11] <survivor> So I can't really accidentally touch my hard drive with the Live CD?
[04:11] <stefg> FuriousRage: are you able to trigger a dhcp lease by sudo dhclient?
[04:11] <Hexidigital_> survivor::  afaik, no
[04:11] <W_McL> do you have dhcp in your network (autmatical assignment of ip adresses)
[04:11] <gatekeeper> Hexidigital_, can see web cam but not voice: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[04:11] <Hadar> stef: i can't find anyhting suits me...
[04:11] <longwave> cocos_: some of the archive servers are down, you can try again later or edit your sources.list to use a server from a different country
[04:11] <shawnr_> Quick Poll: Firefox or Opera 9 ?
[04:11] <regoahr> Dimensions: cat /etc/wvdial.conf
[04:11] <Hadar> do u mean this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:11] <Dimensions> regoahr:  the only messages i am receiving are here ...
[04:11] <survivor> Okay, next question... why can I only select WEP as WiFi key type?
[04:12] <FuriousRage> stefg: ya, it doesnt a few line, iirc channel 8 16 7 3 4 ect, then says it didnt recive some signal
[04:12] <housetier> is there an alternative mirror for security.ubuntu.com ?
[04:12] <Hadar> if i shut down this computer i wont be able to connect from any computer ... :)
[04:12] <longwave> housetier: no
[04:12] <Hadar> :(
[04:12] <survivor> I want to get into a WPA WiFi.
[04:12] <gatekeeper> there is a #amsn channel in here
[04:13] <longwave> !wpa
[04:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:13] <omerlh> Hello
[04:13] <stefg> FuriousRage: hmmm, maybe disabling ipv6 helps
[04:13] <cocos_> longwave: i would like to have dutch servers (im dutch myself) but i dont know how to adjust that could you help me?
[04:13] <stefg> !ipv6
[04:13] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:13] <omerlh> I have some weird problem
[04:13] <Dimensions> regoahr:  its shows what i gave it before ... like modem is usb phone no is *99# (voda fone)
[04:14] <omerlh> There are about 3-4 kernels installs on my computer.
[04:14] <regoahr> Dimensions: you must using your ppp0 connection as default
[04:14] <longwave> cocos_: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file, and change all references from au.archive.ubuntu.com to nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:14] <longwave> cocos_: then run apt-get update again
[04:14] <cocos_> longwave: cool thanks ill try it right away
[04:14] <FuriousRage> stefg: nope, tried all those ways, by blacklist ect, it just removes the addr6 part from ifconfig list on eth0, and still same result with dhclient(3), and the network in admin shows the eth0 as using dhcp ect, and the macaddress isnt 00:00:00 nor FF:FF:FF (as in not identified)
[04:14] <gilianima> is there a command to cut a few minutes at the beginning of a mpeg movie ?
[04:14] <omerlh> I need kernel headers for the newst version and I can't install it, just for the first kernel that installed
[04:15] <yacek19> where does apt download its files?
[04:15] <longwave> yacek19: the servers are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:15] <Dimensions> regoahr:  ppp0 i will have to configure via shell or from networking interface i have to enable it ?
[04:16] <Hadar> stef: hitting ESC on boot doesn't work
[04:16] <FuriousRage> stefg: i tried every tip i found on the ubuntuforums, and not sure if its because i use the amd64 version (got Athlon 4000+ cpu)
[04:16] <Hadar> please help me
[04:16] <gatekeeper> omerlh, www.kernel.org/ ????
[04:16] <yacek19> but to which folder?
[04:16] <bkudria> I'm compiling something, and it tells me I need X includes...which package, specifically, do I need to install?
[04:16] <yacek19> where does apt stores his packages?
[04:16] <longwave> yacek19: it downloads them to /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:17] <stefg> FuriousRage: i don't really have a clue... Last resort would be to search launchpad for a known bug :-/
[04:17] <omerlh> gatekeeper, there is a way doinig it trough apt?
[04:17] <survivor> Okay.
[04:17] <survivor> <- gives up on WPA: (
[04:17] <FuriousRage> stefg: do the cd got any built in firewall that could block the dhcp request?
[04:17] <AngryElf> hey all, im' trying to get at /dev/hda1 while booted with the liveCD, it says /dev/hda1 is busy, but it's not in /etc/mtab......how do i mount it to edit it?
[04:17] <Hadar> the other computer is striked out ...
[04:18] <stefg> FuriousRage: not as far as i know
[04:18] <gatekeeper> omerlh, not really but all you are after is source files, it's not like you are installing an app with config files etc
[04:18] <FuriousRage> stefg: hmm, maybe nforce 4 or w/e the ethernet controller is, isnt supported by ubuntu yet
[04:18] <Dimensions> regoahr:  ?
[04:19] <omerlh> O.K., thanks
[04:19] <Shinzetsu> whats the package name for the latest gtk+ library?
[04:19] <gatekeeper> omerlh, should just be able to download a tar and unpack it
[04:19] <longwave> bkudria: there are lots of X development packages, maybe xlibs-dev will include them all for you..
[04:19] <regoahr> Dimensions: do you have another network interfaces ?
[04:20] <Dimensions> right now i do regoahr but when im using nokia mobile as gprs i close it ...
[04:20] <AwesomeEvs> *NEED HELP* SEE FORUM - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228560
[04:21] <Shinzetsu> AwesomeEvs: no use to need caps
[04:21] <AwesomeEvs> Sorry
[04:21] <regoahr> Dimensions: write DNS in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:21] <Shinzetsu> AwesomeEvs: no problem
[04:21] <J_P> hi all
[04:21] <regoahr> J_P:
[04:21] <chaps0063> good morning, I trying to figure out how to get the kernel module "i2c-dev" working on my system and then have it load automatically. I am running on ubuntu 6.06 on a powerbook g4.
[04:22] <longwave> Shinzetsu: libgtk2.0-0, i think
[04:22] <longwave> Shinzetsu: the dev package is libgtk2.0-dev
[04:22] <J_P> chaps0063: what is function of i2c ?
[04:22] <Shinzetsu> longwave: On their site that state the latest stable build is 2.10
[04:22] <regoahr> anybody here from Russia ? :)
[04:22] <kaffien> if i want compile nvidia drivers what do i need to do?
[04:22] <longwave> Shinzetsu: 2.10 is available in edgy only, i think
[04:22] <JohnRobert> what program do I need to get beagle on to my gnome task bar? Deskbar is close to what I want...
[04:22] <longwave> Shinzetsu: dapper is still on 2.8
[04:23] <Shinzetsu> longwave: k
[04:23] <kaffien> i installed the  kernel source and headers but it doesnt seem to wanna work
[04:23] <chaps0063> well I am trying to get pbbuttonsd to work so that my special keys work... http://www.powerlinux.com/powerbookg4/ - under "special keys" the first "Update"
[04:23] <AwesomeEvs> I Can't load Dapper liveCD I get 'Can't load tty: job control turned off'
[04:23] <nikin> hy all
[04:23] <Dimensions> regoahr:  i went to configure modem ppp0 from interface and in modem setting >>> Modem port ... my port is ttyACM0 which is not in the list and can't auto detect too
[04:23] <FuriousRage> i even did that blacklist tulip and modprobe dmfe(?) "trick" stated somewhere on the forums a few times, doesnt really seam to work, and i got no router, connected directly to my isp
[04:24] <juke4> HI all, does anyone have problems updating Nautilus? I keep getting error 404?
[04:24] <bkudria> longwave: ok, thanks!
[04:24] <Fucty> what was this firefox update today? I still got version 1.5.0.5. Shouldn't it be 1.5.0.6?
[04:24] <DJAdmiral> Hi, I have Dapper on my laptop, and my sister wants to switch to Ubuntu as well, however GRUB is not installing. Help?
[04:24] <skavenge> how do i get a list of usable console fonts?
[04:24] <nikin> anyone en experience with CANON CCPD printer Drivers?
[04:24] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with an issue.   I am new to Linux and someone helped me get my wireless connection up and running lastnight and it was running UNTIL I rebooted the laptop.  Since then I have NO eth1 connection under Networking in Ubuntu.  ANY help would be greatly appreciated if you can.  Thanks
[04:24] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, the iso you have downloaded is corrupt, or it didn't burn correctly and you need a slower speed. There is also a self-test option to make sure the CD is ok which you also need to run. CDRom may also have something wrong with it
[04:24] <fiction> hello?
[04:25] <pgavin> is there a mirror of security.ubuntu.com?  it seems to be down frequently
[04:25] <AwesomeEvs> @gatekeeper but i got it to run fine once
[04:25] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: do you know your DNS servers?
[04:25] <regoahr> Dimensions: sorry, /me away :)
[04:25] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, yes I do
[04:25] <fiction> Guys, i have a noob question
[04:25] <treyka> hello? anybody else have devfs / udev issues after distupgrade from breezy -> dapper?
[04:25] <DJAdmiral> wheel3572, I think I can help you then
[04:25] <fiction> Ok
[04:25] <pgavin> or maybe just really slow
[04:25] <fiction> I used the add/remove thign to install packages
[04:26] <nikin> pgavin: is not down... i have managged to download from that with apt-get, its just slow as sick snail in chains
[04:26] <fiction> i installed xfce window manager
[04:26] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, so may be it has now got damaged in some way, dunno, try the self-test
[04:26] <fiction> how do i use it?
[04:26] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, great thanks.  I am just waiting for my friend to get up lol but in the mean time it's frustrating lol
[04:26] <DJAdmiral> wheel3572: click system, administration, then networking
[04:26] <AwesomeEvs> @gatekeeper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228560
[04:26] <longwave> fiction: can you select it from the session menu at the login screen?
[04:26] <pgavin> nikin: there must be a mirror of it somewhere though
[04:26] <fiction> Nope
[04:26] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, already there :)
[04:27] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, are you registered nick?
[04:27] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: what connections do you see then?
[04:27] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572, no I haven't registered my nick. how do i do so?
[04:27] <wheels3572> Ethernet Connection which shows it being eth0 and my modem connection
[04:27] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, hold on :)
[04:27] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572, okay.
[04:28] <fiction> DJAdmiral, what is wheel having trouble with?
[04:28] <DJAdmiral> fiction: he needs to configure his ethernet connection.
[04:28] <krangg> hello guys am not a ubuntu nor a linux user as yet but long time ago i;ve tried to use rh and at that time rh requires me to mount -umount drives in order to use esp with floopies now does ubuntu requires this or its literally has become the genuine plug and play ..
[04:28] <fiction> Oh ok
[04:28] <simpo> how can i istall mldonkey in dapper ?
[04:28] <wheels3572> fiction it's my wireless to be exact
[04:28] <fiction> Ok
[04:28] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, yes I have read that, everything I have told still stands, you need to try to isolate the problem, ensure your hardware is good with another boot cd etc etc
[04:28] <fiction> im using wireless too
[04:28] <fiction> maybe i can help
[04:29] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, type /nickserv REGISTER
[04:29] <AwesomeEvs> ok will burn another cd
[04:29] <longwave> krangg: you still need to mount floppies, but other media like cdroms and usb drives should automatically mount
[04:29] <wheels3572> fiction,  what kind of firmware is it a Broadcom
[04:29] <AwesomeEvs> thanks 4 the help
[04:29] <fiction> its a dlink with atheros chipset
[04:29] <fiction> i use ndiswrapper
[04:29] <wheels3572> Ok I have the notorious bcm chipset which is a PAIN lol
[04:29] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, process of elimination :-)
[04:29] <DJAdmiral> yay im registered thanks wheels3572
[04:30] <fiction> lol
[04:30] <krangg> longwave: thanks man
[04:30] <fiction> have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[04:30] <AwesomeEvs> :-D lol off to burn a CD cya
[04:30] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, np :).  That gives you the ability to use private messaging in separate window also DJAdmiral  :)
[04:30] <smacky_wolf> has anyone else made a logitech USB webcam work with Ubuntu?
[04:30] <fiction> also, how do include someone's name in front of my messages?
[04:30] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, try a boot disk from www.bootdisk.com
[04:30] <longwave> fiction: just type it, or depending on your client type the first few letters of their name then press tab
[04:30] <DJAdmiral> smacky_wolf: i've had the same error thing. I plug in the webcam and ubuntu freezes.
[04:30] <wheels3572> fiction I honeslty DONT know what we did lastnight we did so mch lol  As for Question 2 type whe and hit tab
[04:30] <fiction> oh ok.
[04:31] <AwesomeEvs> ok what will they do?
[04:31] <juke4> HI all, does anyone have problems updating Nautilus? I keep getting error 404? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19598
[04:31] <fiction> wheels thanks man
[04:31] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, presume it boots ok from the hard disk?
[04:31] <wheels3572> fiction, np :)
[04:31] <fiction> when someone talks to me, their name is in bold and yellow
[04:31] <DJAdmiral> longwave: nice, thanks for the tip
[04:31] <fiction> neat
[04:31] <fiction> wheels: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[04:31] <AwesomeEvs> my PC boots windows fine from HD
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fiction: type anywhere in your message
[04:31] <fiction> test anywhere
[04:31] <fiction> lol nbm
[04:31] <DJAdmiral> Can anybody help me here, I'm having issues with the ubuntu installation on my sister's machine
[04:31] <wheels3572> fiction, not that I am aware of we did so much lastnight I dont know what we did lol but I DONT recall using ndiswrapper
[04:32] <fiction> nevermind*
[04:32] <longwave> juke4: some of the archive servers have not received the latest updates yet, either wait until tomorrow or try another country's archive server
[04:32] <DJAdmiral> GRUB is not installing for some strange reason.
[04:32] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, like what?
[04:32] <fiction> Ok. Ive used ndiswrapper in suse and now in ubuntu
[04:32] <fiction> maybe it will work for you too
[04:32] <FuriousRage> does ubuntu i386 come with ipv6 default disabled or something different from the AMD64 so it might get an ip?
[04:32] <gatekeeper> AwesomeEvs, there are all sorts like Win98 startup discs, anything will do to check that you don't have a hardware fault, process of elimination :-)
[04:32] <DJAdmiral> longwave: how do you try another country's archive server?
[04:32] <juke4> longwave: thanks for your input, I will try tomorrow
[04:32] <fiction> I can help you if you'd like
[04:32] <AwesomeEvs> kk thanks for your help
[04:32] <wheels3572> fiction, have you or anyone else ever heard of losing the wireless connection after a reboot?
[04:32] <W_McL> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <fiction> Yea
[04:33] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: GRUB fails to install to /target/
[04:33] <fiction> when i had suse
[04:33] <fiction> i had to modprobe ndiswrapper each time i started
[04:33] <longwave> DJAdmiral: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, you will have something like us.archive.ubuntu.com which is the US server, you can change that to de for the German server, nl for the Dutch server, etc.
[04:33] <fiction> not in ubuntu though
[04:33] <fiction> it connects automatically
[04:33] <fiction> thank god
[04:33] <krangg> anyone here using ubuntu on laptops .. i like to know any OS specific problems (mind the hardware ) any issues i should worry abt..?
[04:33] <fiction> :F
[04:33] <skavenge> how do i get a list of usable console fonts?
[04:33] <chaps0063> J_P: any thoughts?
[04:33] <magical_trevsky> is
[04:33] <longwave> !laptop
[04:33] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:33] <DJAdmiral> longwave: mine is ae, thanks
[04:34] <longwave> krangg: check out the laptop testing team page and see if your laptop has already been tested by someone
[04:34] <sid77> hello all, it's just me or security.ubuntu.com seems pretty hosed?
[04:34] <DJAdmiral> krangg: i use ubuntu on my lapop
[04:34] <chaps0063> !powerbook
[04:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about powerbook - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:34] <chaps0063> !powerpc
[04:34] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[04:34] <longwave> sid77: security is very slow today
[04:34] <sid77> yup
[04:34] <J_P> chaps0063: not, I'm corious to known what is function of i2c..
[04:34] <fiction> wheels: if you decide to give ndiswrapper a go (it's not hard), ill be here to help
[04:35] <skavenge> *shrug* my updates ran fine, no slowdowns
[04:35] <longwave> i2c is a system bus that provides low-level hardware information of different types
[04:35] <wheels3572> fiction, ok ty :) I am gonna see what we did lastnight see if it's still in the archives lol
[04:35] <fiction> alright
[04:35] <longwave> things like temperature sensors and the system clock are connected to it
[04:35] <krangg> thank you guys off to tux then ;)
[04:35] <fiction> wheels, does ubuntu detect your NIC?
[04:36] <DJAdmiral> krangg: welcome to the wonderful world of Linux, krangg :)
[04:36] <fiction> ok guys
[04:36] <DJAdmiral> krangg: I'm here if you need any help, add me on MSN if need be.
[04:36] <wheels3572> fiction, it will if it's hardwired to the router
[04:36] <fiction> oh i see
[04:36] <AngryElf> guys, tell me if this has been done already:  i'd like to modify a liveCD so that it connects to my home server over the www via static ip, boots up amarok and loads my mp3 collection -- so i can have it from anywhere, is this feasible?
[04:37] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: are you talking about making a live cd based on ubuntu that accesses your computer from anywhere to listen to musci?
[04:37] <derrickh> does anyone know where desktop profiles are stored? ie panel locations,  i have dual-head running and would like to copy and paste the profiles
[04:37] <DJAdmiral> music*
[04:37] <fiction> Is there a root account to ununtu? i'm trying to install wxPython, and i need to modify a file in one folder, but when i modify, it wont let me save saying i dont have persmission
[04:37] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, basically
[04:38] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, i noticed there's a wiki on modifying the liveCD, or creating a new one, i was gonna use that for help
[04:38] <longwave> AngryElf: well, i suppose that is possible, if you preconfigured the cd image correctly
[04:38] <frogzoo> !root
[04:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:38] <derrickh> fiction, use sudo or su
[04:38] <fiction> i did
[04:38] <longwave> AngryElf: presuming the computer you are booting from has hardware support in ubuntu :)
[04:38] <fiction> wait hold on
[04:38] <fiction> i double clicked the file
[04:38] <fiction> added the lines i needed to add. it wont let me save.
[04:38] <fiction> where would i use sude
[04:38] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: i suppose you could just change start up options in the CD or something maybe.
[04:38] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, longwave, i think the wiki has good explanation of making the liveCD, my main question is, what's the best way to mount/share files over the www, and clearly, be secure
[04:38] <derrickh> you would have to run nautilus with root priv
[04:39] <derrickh> or do it in a terminal
[04:39] <fiction> i did
[04:39] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: erm, my best guess is Apache.
[04:39] <fiction> i tried editing it with vim
[04:39] <fiction> didn't work
[04:39] <frogzoo> fiction: only where you need root permissions
[04:39] <fiction> i used sudo -i
[04:39] <fiction> and typed in my password
[04:39] <skavenge> 'sudo vim' from terminal
[04:39] <longwave> AngryElf: either apache, or an ssh tunnel of some kind, i guess
[04:39] <wheels3572> fiction, use sudo and then the command you want
[04:39] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: then again I never really created a music server lol
[04:39] <fiction> i tried.
[04:40] <fiction> if at the login screen, i type the username 'root', what password will it take?
[04:40] <longwave> AngryElf: it depends on the options you have in amarok for streaming from remote locations
[04:40] <fiction> ive tried blank, /root, root, admin...none worked
[04:40] <derrickh> oyou have to set the password first, and enable root login
[04:40] <fiction> oh
[04:40] <chx> hi, how can i switch on logging in xchat?
[04:40] <longwave> fiction: you cannot log in as root by default, and you certainly don't want an x session as root
[04:40] <wheels3572> fiction, actually try this
[04:40] <AngryElf> longwave, doens't amarok only support local or mounted files?
[04:40] <fiction> ok.
[04:41] <wheels3572> sudo and use your favorite editor to edit your lines
[04:41] <derrickh> fiction, check out that wiki, it has everything you need
[04:41] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: hmm i have an idea. you could possibly set up an apache server on your computer, and embed all your mp3 files into an html page.
[04:41] <wheels3572> then after done hit :!wq
[04:41] <chaps0063> J_P: keyboard backlight (needs i2c-dev kernel support)...
[04:41] <AngryElf> longwave, i'd like my collection visible just like it is here, so i'd have to "add files to the collection" on the remote computer
[04:41] <fiction> the wiki says
[04:41] <fiction> if i use sudo
[04:41] <fiction> i have admin privileges for 15 minutes
[04:41] <fiction> if i remember correctly
[04:41] <longwave> AngryElf: i don't know much about amarok i am afraid
[04:41] <fiction> so i used sudo -i
[04:41] <fiction> typed in my password
[04:41] <fiction> and it still wouldnt let me save the file
[04:41] <longwave> fiction: what are you using to edit the file?
[04:42] <fiction> random text editor
[04:42] <wheels3572> longwave, that was my next question lol
[04:42] <fiction> i double cilked it
[04:42] <FuriousRage> maybe my computer it destined to run windows only ;(
[04:42] <danga> main
[04:42] <fiction> but i went through terminal with vim and didn't seem to work either
[04:42] <econthrust> heythere!
[04:42] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: what's your problem?
[04:42] <longwave> fiction: run the text editor by pressing alt-f2 and typing "gksudo randomtexteditor /file/to/edit"
[04:42] <longwave> fiction: it will ask for your password first, then you should be able to save the file
[04:42] <fiction> alright brb
[04:42] <econthrust> question of the day: What is the most unique info in a pc that cannot be altered?
[04:43] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: I'm trying my best to save pcs from the tyranny of microsoft lol
[04:43] <wheels3572> longwave may I ask what's the difference between SUDO and gksudo?
[04:43] <longwave> wheels3572: sudo is for command line things, gksudo is for graphical apps
[04:43] <mc_________> wheels3572, gksudo is graphical
[04:43] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: i cannot get any ipv4 ip address at all, tried "everything" that i can search up, like disable the ipv6, but still dhclient doesnt get any dhcp "answer" or something, so i can update or anything
[04:43] <wheels3572> longwave & mc_________ ty both :)
[04:44] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: try putting in DNS servers, a gateway and an IP address?
[04:44] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: dont got static ip, only dhcp from isp
[04:44] <mc_________> wheels3572, you're welcome
[04:44] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: no only the ip from your dhcp router
[04:44] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: what dhcp router?
[04:45] <chaps0063> how do I get i2c kernel support?
[04:45] <fiction> wheels3572: when i press alt+f2, a  "run application" window pops up
[04:45] <XiXaQ> I'm dualbooting with windows xp. How do I make Wine use the original windows libraries?
[04:46] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: see, the linksys router i use requires me to assign DNS servers, a gateway address, and the ip address the router assigned to me
[04:46] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: i dont got any router at all, im directly connected to my isp
[04:46] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: like the router's gateway is 192.168.0.1 for example. my ip is 217.164.171.194
[04:46] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: ouch.
[04:46] <longwave> chaps0063: you may need to load the module, try "sudo modprobe i2c"
[04:46] <frogzoo> econthrust: there is a command that shows all your hardware, including the bios' serial number, just can't remember the name
[04:46] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: call up your isp and ask for help on configuring internet with linux?
[04:47] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: and i got 4 or 5 dynamic ip's from my isp and my household only got 2 computers connected, so i got atleast 2 "spare" unused ones.
[04:47] <chaps0063> longwave: FATAL: Module i2c not found.
[04:47] <econthrust> frogzoo, can i lend u my E-mail address in private for the answer for later?
[04:48] <nikin> anyone en experience with CANON CCPD printer Drivers?
[04:48] <wheels3572> fiction, is your nick registered on IRC here
[04:48] <longwave> chaps0063: hrm, maybe it is the i2c-core module instead? i haven't used i2c things for a while
[04:48] <`JB> I have successfully used 'fwcutter' to connect my wireless adapter. What does 'fwcutter' do?
[04:48] <fiction> I think so
[04:48] <fiction> no idea.
[04:49] <fiction> <--- nubcake
[04:49] <wheels3572> fiction, ok lol
[04:49] <chaps0063> longwave: same thing..
[04:49] <longwave> `JB: fwcutter takes the windows firmware and cuts out the parts that are needed to run the card
[04:49] <fiction> lol
[04:49] <bXi> is it possible to see what the ubuntu installer is actually doing?
[04:49] <longwave> `JB: these parts cannot be distributed with linux as technically they are not free
[04:49] <fiction> yes
[04:49] <wheels3572> fiction, type /nickerv REGISTER
[04:49] <fiction> bxi
[04:49] <bXi> fiction
[04:49] <fiction> one second wheels
[04:50] <wheels3572> fiction, np
[04:50] <longwave> chaps0063: sorry i dont know more about i2c :(
[04:50] <fiction> bxi: are you intalling from the add/remove program?
[04:50] <bXi> its been stuck at step 5 for 3 hours now
[04:50] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: it's actually /msg nickserv register
[04:50] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: hmm, on my isp page it states like this about configre a router to work ("in case" settings) i dunno what this are tho: # VPI = 8, VCI = 35, Encapsulation = LLC
[04:50] <bXi> fiction: from the livecd
[04:50] <chaps0063> longwave: thanks, I am trying to get pbbuttonsd to work on my powerbook so that all of my special keys work.
[04:50] <fiction> ohhhh from the live cd. i dont nkow
[04:50] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, ohhh ok ty
[04:50] <fiction> i think alt+f2 is verbose mode
[04:50] <`JB> longwave: thank you
[04:50] <fiction> so you could try that
[04:50] <bXi> well
[04:50] <fiction> wheels3572: when i tried /nickerv REGISTER, nothign happened
[04:51] <FuriousRage> fiction: /msg nickserv help register <-- probably better
[04:51] <nikin> write your password after it
[04:51] <fiction> ok, thanks.
[04:51] <bXi> does somebody know what the livecd does in step 5?
[04:52] <bXi> it seems its defragging a windows partition and resizing that
[04:52] <fiction> o.O
[04:52] <chaps0063> !ppc
[04:52] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[04:52] <Volstrup> anyone who knows what is wrong with security.ubuntu.com right now?
[04:52] <DJAdmiral> I DID IT!! I DID IT!!! I rescued my sister's machine from the tyranny of microsoft!!! THANK YOU GUYS!!
[04:52] <chaps0063> does anyone know anything about the i2c module?
[04:52] <DJAdmiral> Volstrup: it's slow atm. server load.
[04:52] <fiction> congrats admiral
[04:52] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: anyways, gonna go do that test to set the dns servers manualy as they wrote, gotta reboot ^^
[04:53] <DJAdmiral> fiction: ty :D
[04:53] <jessid> hello... this is going to be an easy question: does GNOME have any minimal good tool to find files? the one that comes with nautilus is a *@#$%. It does not find any thing....
[04:53] <Volstrup> DJAdmiral: are there any mirrors for the security packages?
[04:53] <DJAdmiral> Volstrup: im not too sure, but there are mirrors for the ubuntu archive.
[04:53] <Kyynara_> security works for me now...
[04:53] <fiction> \-_-/        megatron says hi
[04:54] <Kyynara_> seems a bit onoff
[04:54] <fiction> wheels3572: i did  "gksudo Text Editor/etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:54] <fiction> says couldn't find file
[04:54] <DJAdmiral> jessid: Places --> Search for Files?
[04:55] <DJAdmiral> jessid: or is that the one you said is pointless or something?
[04:55] <jessid> DJAdmiral pointless??? what does it mean?
[04:55] <DJAdmiral> jessid: by pointless i meant the one you said was @@$@$!#
[04:55] <fiction> lol
[04:56] <DJAdmiral> fiction: lol
[04:56] <jessid> DJAdmiral Places --> Search for Files can't find anything either...or do I have to modify any conf. file?
[04:57] <fiction> hehe
[04:57] <longwave> jessid: do you know the filename or part of the filename?
[04:57] <fiction> oh man
[04:57] <fiction> i need to take a linux course
[04:57] <DJAdmiral> fiction: www.linuxsurvival.com ;)
[04:57] <frogzoo> DJAdmiral: what does your sister use her pc for?
[04:57] <DJAdmiral> fiction: Pretty darn good
[04:57] <fiction> me and linux is like a fierce battle
[04:57] <jessid> longwave of course, but I dont know why it cant find any...
[04:57] <fiction> but ill win
[04:57] <fiction> thanks DJadmiral
[04:57] <longwave> jessid: from the terminal, try "locate filename", see if that finds it
[04:57] <DJAdmiral> frogzoo: my sister's pc is fixed now, but she uses her pc for general purposes
[04:58] <fiction> lol dj
[04:58] <fiction> you don't wan your sister using windows?
[04:58] <frogzoo> DJAdmiral: word processing, + audio/video's about it?
[04:58] <`JB> What command line syntax do I use to access a flash drive? I can see & access from GUI.
[04:58] <fiction> probably aim
[04:58] <fiction> msn
[04:58] <fiction> girlie stuff
[04:58] <wheels3572> fiction, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19601
[04:58] <DJAdmiral> fiction: girlie stuff??!?
[04:59] <DJAdmiral> fiction: she's 23 frickin years old, almost 24
[04:59] <jessid> longwave yeah! I use find but I thought GNOME had a tool for that...something like kfind, in kde...thats good, but i would not install many kde libraries...
[04:59] <fiction> sike nevermind
[04:59] <DJAdmiral> fiction: she has a job lol
[04:59] <fiction> probably spreadsheets, emails, lol
[04:59] <jessid> longwave what do you think about that? am I wrong?
[04:59] <fiction> wheels3572: thanks!
[04:59] <edju> For some strange reason, my laptop is not booting from the CD drive.  Is there a way to install ubuntu otherwise?  Network install maybe?
[04:59] <DJAdmiral> fiction: she mainly uses it for office, internet, chat, and reading ebooks.
[04:59] <fiction> I see
[04:59] <DJAdmiral> edju: change your BIOS boot settings?
[04:59] <fiction> You don't want her using windows huh?
[04:59] <skavenge> edju: you have cdrom set before hdd in the boot order in the bios yes?
[05:00] <longwave> jessid: places -> search for files is the gnome place to find things, i thought
[05:00] <DJAdmiral> fiction: SHE doesn't want windoze lol
[05:00] <wheels3572> fiction, let me know if that works
[05:00] <fiction> lol
[05:00] <longwave> jessid: you could install the deskbar in a panel and use that as well
[05:00] <fiction> curse uncle billy
[05:00] <fiction> ok wheels.
[05:00] <DJAdmiral> uncle billy? lol
[05:00] <fiction> dont forget to try ndiswrapper
[05:00] <fiction> bill gates rofl
[05:00] <fiction> aka uncle billy
[05:00] <DJAdmiral> i'd rather watch the movie with uma thurman rofl
[05:00] <edju> DJAdmiral, skavenge , Yes to both.
[05:01] <DJAdmiral> get what movie im talking about? *nudge nudge* Kill Bill!
[05:01] <shiloh> Hello..where can we find the forum for Bluetooth?
[05:01] <skavenge> check the md5sum of the iso, possibly reburn at a slower speed is all i can suggest
[05:01] <fiction> wheels:
[05:01] <nikin> hmm i have seen a strange thing, when i plug in my printer udev shoult connenct t to /dev/usb/usblp0
[05:01] <fiction> im supposed to that from the terminal right?
[05:01] <verus_> hi all! is there a php based software that can be installed on a server that can be feeded with calendar information from evolution, so that i have a way to sync my local calendar with a web-accessable frontend?
[05:01] <DJAdmiral> edju: I changed the boot order in my laptop's BIOS chip to floppy, cdrom, hard disk.
[05:01] <fiction> or from alt+f2?
[05:01] <jessid> too bad...but is ok...some last words...you may know some developers of GNOME...it could be a good improvement to work in...i love GNOME...good bye!!!
[05:01] <wheels3572> fiction, yes
[05:01] <nikin> but by me it places to /dev/usblp0
[05:01] <shiloh> is there a chat forum for Bluetooth?
[05:01] <fiction> Ok
[05:02] <livingdaylig> what is the command for reinstalling xserver-xorg, please?
[05:02] <verus_> basically i want to publisize my calendar data, so i can access it from anywhere
[05:02] <LordSkylark> hello
[05:02] <cafg10> hi i am trying to buy a tvturner, wich one do you recommend me
[05:02] <LordSkylark> mmmh
[05:02] <livingdaylig> i'm installing a new monitor
[05:02] <edju> DJAdmiral, So, there's no way to install other than then the live cd?
[05:02] <DJAdmiral> verus_: you can probably use XAMPP
[05:02] <LordSkylark> how to manage firewall in ubuntu?
[05:02] <LordSkylark> :P
[05:02] <shiloh> Where can we find chat forums for Mono?
[05:02] <skavenge> LordSkylark: firestarter is most common
[05:02] <nikin> so why is my 6.06 behaving like an 5.1?
[05:03] <DJAdmiral> edju: there is the alternate cd etc. however i think you might be able to do networked installations. i think. but you just need to change your boot settings.
[05:03] <marcel__> hi
[05:03] <longwave> !firewall
[05:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[05:03] <DJAdmiral> edju: it's easy and harmless if you know what you're doing.
[05:03] <nikin> i installed from 6.06 live cd , and updated everything
[05:03] <LordSkylark> skavenge: thanks
[05:03] <marcel__> can anyone tell me what etherape is?
[05:03] <AngryElf> how do i set up a sftp server?
[05:03] <DJAdmiral> !etherape
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about etherape - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:03] <verus_> DJAdmiral: thanks, i will have a look
[05:03] <petemc> AngryElf: installing the ssh server should provice sftp access
[05:04] <longwave> AngryElf: you just need openssh-server installed
[05:04] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: FTP server plus openssh
[05:04] <AngryElf> and then just "sftp host"
[05:04] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: XAMPP could probably do that for you
[05:04] <AngryElf> ?
[05:04] <petemc> ftp server?
[05:04] <marcel__> thanks
[05:04] <longwave> DJAdmiral: you don't even need an ftp server, openssh provides sftp anyway
[05:04] <fiction> wheels
[05:04] <DJAdmiral> verus_: no problemo
[05:04] <fiction> on the very first line: type sudo vim Text Editor/etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:04] <fiction> you forgot the opening "
[05:04] <DJAdmiral> longwave: thanks, i learned something today!
[05:04] <fiction> where does it go?
[05:04] <AngryElf> is there a way to mount a directory using sftp?
[05:04] <wheels3572> fiction, open up terminal mode
[05:05] <fiction> yes
[05:05] <fiction> i opened terminal
[05:05] <petemc> AngryElf: sshfs
[05:05] <fiction> and typed
[05:05] <livingdaylig> Ok, lets try again: to reconfigure or reinstall xserver-xorg? what is the command?
[05:05] <fiction> sudo vim Text Editor/etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:05] <frogzoo> marcel__: etherape is like a sonogram of your ip traffic
[05:05] <fiction> but you forgot to put the opening quotation marks
[05:05] <wheels3572> that should bring you right into the text editor
[05:05] <verus_> DJAdmiral: it seems that it is a apache distribution, how would i use that for my task?
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> When installing gFTP I get this error:
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.3... no
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> *** full path to glib-config.
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher
[05:05] <fiction> it didn't.
[05:05] <wheels3572> you dont need them
[05:05] <longwave> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:05] <skavenge> fiction: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list', none of that 'text editor' mess
[05:05] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: enough with the pasting
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> soz
[05:05] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, longwave sorry, too many channels, i thought you all were in ##linux, sorry for asking you twice :)
[05:05] <frogzoo> Shinzetsu: this isn't the first time, so cut it out
[05:06] <wheels3572> fiction, I always never use quotes here
[05:06] <Shinzetsu> frogzoo: I know, but nobody warned me, and I thought it wouldnt be that much, sorry
[05:06] <DJAdmiral> verus_: XAMPP has a calender program built in. securely.
[05:06] <frogzoo> !pastebin
[05:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:06] <longwave> Shinzetsu: unless you are pasting just one line use the pastebin please
[05:06] <Shinzetsu> longwave: k
[05:06] <wheels3572> you want pastebin frogzoo
[05:06] <wheels3572> ?
[05:07] <DJAdmiral> verus_: log in to your comp, type in user/pass in apache interface, and go to calendar.
[05:07] <longwave> Shinzetsu: why are you install gftp from source, when it is in universe?
[05:07] <verus_> DJAdmiral: it doesn't seem xampp is served with ubuntu, is it?
[05:07] <longwave> *installing
[05:07] <Shinzetsu> longwave: dunno :P
[05:07] <DJAdmiral> verus_: nope.
[05:08] <fiction> Ok
[05:08] <fiction> wheels
[05:08] <DJAdmiral> verus_: neither is it in any of the repositories, so you have to install it via the terminal. i can help if you like.
[05:08] <g33k0> mm
[05:08] <fiction> when it asks for a password, do i use my password?
[05:08] <Shinzetsu> longwave: what is the package name?
[05:08] <longwave> you don't need xampp on ubuntu
[05:08] <longwave> !lamp
[05:08] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:08] <fiction> !root
[05:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:08] <wheels3572> fiction, yes your password
[05:08] <sportegioco> Can anyone responde at a my domand?
[05:08] <ricardo> hey guys ..i would like to know which repositorie you use to keep conky updated...
[05:08] <fiction> ok
[05:08] <longwave> just install those packages and you practically have xampp
[05:08] <g33k0> !debian
[05:08] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[05:08] <DJAdmiral> longwave: XAMPP is easier and faster :P
[05:09] <DJAdmiral> longwave: plus it has the calendar thing that verus_ wants.
[05:09] <longwave> DJAdmiral: but upgrading it later is more difficult because you are not using ubuntu packaging
[05:09] <longwave> ah ok it wins there :)
[05:09] <DJAdmiral> longwave: yay for XAMPP! lol
[05:09] <verus_> DJAdmiral: thanks a lot for you help, but i'll be fine if i decide to install it. it was just a question, because i'm new to ubuntu (used to debian) and maybe there would have been a need to add new repositories or anythung alike.
[05:09] <g33k0> !netcat
[05:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about netcat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:09] <g33k0> omg
[05:09] <g33k0> nufing
[05:09] <g33k0> netcat..
[05:09] <g33k0> :/
[05:09] <DJAdmiral> verus_: no problem, just glad i could help.
[05:09] <fiction> wheels
[05:10] <longwave> !info netcat
[05:10] <ubotu> netcat: TCP/IP swiss army knife. In repository main, is important. Version 1.10-29 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:10] <g33k0> who knows how to use netcat?
[05:10] <g33k0> mmm
[05:10] <DJAdmiral> !info etherape
[05:10] <ubotu> etherape: graphical network monitor modeled after etherman. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 113 kB, installed size 596 kB
[05:10] <ricardo> hey guys ..i would like to know which repositorie you use to keep conky updated...
[05:10] <AngryElf> i imagine that us.archive.ubuntu.com is slow because there were a good 20 updates this morning?
[05:10] <verus_> DJAdmiral: and there is no easier way of publishing my calendar to a php-script? because my lamp environment is set up completly on that box now. and actually i want to host that script and there will be no chance i can install my own httpserver on there
[05:10] <DJAdmiral> !info conky
[05:10] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[05:10] <g33k0> wot about breezybagger?
[05:10] <DJAdmiral> it's in the universe repository
[05:10] <wheels3572> fiction, you wanted me?
[05:10] <g33k0> !info netcat
[05:10] <ubotu> netcat: TCP/IP swiss army knife. In repository main, is important. Version 1.10-29 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:10] <fiction> you = god.
[05:10] <fiction> lol
[05:11] <fiction> fact
[05:11] <fiction> thanks alot!
[05:11] <wheels3572> fiction, I am new so farrrrrrrr from god lol
[05:11] <fiction> lol
[05:11] <wheels3572> just glad I can help lol
[05:11] <fiction> well it worked
[05:11] <wheels3572> ok :)
[05:11] <AngryElf> is there a mirror for us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:11] <fiction> i spent 2 hours last night
[05:11] <DJAdmiral> fiction: who you talking about lol?
[05:11] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <fiction> wheels for helping me editing stuff =D
[05:11] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral, me lol I am FARRRRRR from god lol I need help with damn wireless lol
[05:11] <npster> How do I use my webcam on Linux, Philips ?
[05:11] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, how do i change it?
[05:11] <fiction> wheels, try ndiswrapper man
[05:12] <chaps0063> longwave: I got it loaded, modprobe i2c-dev
[05:12] <fiction> !ndiswrapper
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: you need to edit your sources.list file for that.
[05:12] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, nm
[05:12] <wheels3572> fiction, ok
[05:12] <Shinzetsu> longwave: do you know by any chance what the package name of gtfp is?
[05:12] <npster> do I have to repeat
[05:12] <fiction> It's easy, i can help you
[05:12] <simpo> i'm looking for working mldonkey-server package, anybody can help !?!?
[05:12] <iqon> is it best to use archive.ubuntu.com or another mirror for /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:12] <longwave> Shinzetsu: just "gftp" :)
[05:12] <PingunZ> !windows
[05:12] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:12] <longwave> it's in universe
[05:12] <Shinzetsu> E: Couldn't find package gtfp
[05:12] <Shinzetsu>  =/
[05:13] <fiction> how old are you people?
[05:13] <longwave> do you have the universe repository enabled?
[05:13] <Shinzetsu> oh gtfp
[05:13] <nikin> hy
[05:13] <DJAdmiral> HAHA! OMG that's a good joke on windoze by ubuntu lol
[05:13] <nikin> root@niki-laptop:/media/hda2/LBP2900driver# ps aux|grep cupsd
[05:13] <nikin> root     11487  0.0  0.1   2940   808 pts/1    R+   17:12   0:00 grep cupsd
[05:13] <npster> HOW DO I use my webcam, Philips
[05:13] <npster> ?
[05:13] <nikin> is this meaning cups is runing?
[05:13] <fiction> 22 here
[05:13] <DJAdmiral> fiction: 16! :)
[05:13] <simpo> mldonkey from repos is broken :( im looking for something else :/
[05:13] <fiction> lol
[05:13] <FuriousRage> still no go with linux for my box, still seams that ms windows wins the game; http://dark-code.bulix.org/ytju9z-11883
[05:13] <fiction> nice
[05:13] <iqon> i feel old
[05:13] <fiction> i feel old too
[05:13] <dell> hi yall's
[05:13] <nikin> i am old
[05:13] <npster> HOW DO I USE MY WEBCAM ?
[05:14] <DJAdmiral> nkin: from the look of it cups is not running
[05:14] <DJAdmiral> npster: easy, chill
[05:14] <fiction> !webcam
[05:14] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:14] <fiction> hey npster
[05:14] <fiction> type !webcam
[05:14] <fiction> npster: type !webcam on your irc client
[05:15] <benjaminwr> i have a question about rescue mode from the instllation cd. there seem to be two versions of the cd on for normal installation and one that says it is for installing ons systems with less than 192 mb ram and OEM install, but whith the normal CD i try and run "rescue" from the boot prompt running the cd and It doesn't find the image
[05:15] <DJAdmiral> fiction: he can see what ubotu said
[05:15] <benjaminwr> do I need to download the other cd???
[05:15] <npster> ok ok
[05:15] <fiction> oh ok
[05:15] <wheels3572> fiction if you want him to see it specifically you would type !webcam > fiction
[05:15] <fiction> interesting
[05:15] <wheels3572> !webcam > fiction
[05:15] <verus_> another q: i have installed evoution-plugins, and in the section "plugins" all arre enabled. but i can't see the weather information in my calendar. what will i need to do?
[05:15] <dell> i need help setup
[05:16] <dell> i need help setup wirelesss
[05:16] <AngryElf> DJAdmiral, are there other mirrors? that one reports it doesn't have all the packages
[05:16] <wheels3572> !webcam > wheels3572
[05:16] <fiction> !webcam > fiction
[05:16] <wheels3572> Yes
[05:16] <wheels3572> see you get it specifically :)
[05:16] <wheels3572> it doesn't paste in the channel room :)
[05:16] <fiction> =D
[05:16] <FuriousRage> still no go with linux for my box, still seams that ms windows wins the game; http://dark-code.bulix.org/ytju9z-11883
[05:16] <DJAdmiral> AngryElf: you could replace the two letters up in front with your country code. like nl = netherlands, us = united states etc.
[05:16] <dell> help please
[05:16] <wheels3572> Fucty, what's the matter FuriousRage
[05:16] <dell> i need help setup wirelesss
[05:17] <fiction> i think i can helppppp
[05:17] <dell> help on wirelesss
[05:17] <fiction> dell
[05:17] <wheels3572> What kind of chipset dell
[05:17] <fiction> what card and chipset
[05:17] <fiction> lol
[05:17] <benjaminwr> can someone help me with rescue mode to restore grub (my cd doesn't have it)?????
[05:17] <fiction> ben
[05:17] <fiction> i think you need a floppy
[05:17] <wheels3572> FuriousRage, what seems to be the issue with Windows winning out?
[05:17] <fiction> boot fromf loppy
[05:17] <dell> i see the network but it will not connet
[05:17] <fiction> ok dell
[05:17] <fiction> open up terminal
[05:18] <DJAdmiral> benjaminwr: personally i think you should re-install from an alternate cd.
[05:18] <fiction> and type
[05:18] <benjaminwr> how would I make a floppy for rescue mode?
[05:18] <fiction> iwconfig
[05:18] <FuriousRage> wheelswitch: windows get an ip and i can use internet, ubuntu doesnt ;(
[05:18] <cafg10> do you know about any recommended tvturner for ubuntu
[05:18] <wheelswitch> really FuriousRage ? fascinating.
[05:18] <fiction> dell: type 'iwconfig' in terminal
[05:18] <frogzoo> benjaminwr: boot the install disk in recovery mode
[05:19] <dell>  IEEE 802.11b+/g+  ESSID:"STAD41A53"  Nickname:"acx v0.3.21"
[05:19] <dell>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[05:19] <dell>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity=1/3
[05:19] <dell>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off
[05:19] <dell>           Power Management:off
[05:19] <dell>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[05:19] <DJAdmiral> cafg10: there are quite a few in the add/remove programs interface
[05:19] <dell>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[05:19] <dell>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:19] <fiction> ok del
[05:19] <DJAdmiral> !pastebin > dell
[05:19] <fiction> does it require a password?
[05:19] <DJAdmiral> !pastebin > aamir
[05:19] <benjaminwr> that's the problem recovery mode requires you to write "rescue" in the prompt but it doesn't do anything
[05:19] <DJAdmiral> !pastebin > DJAdmiral
[05:19] <FuriousRage> fiction: no pass or anything, no router between me and isp, all dhcp .
[05:20] <npster> from where do I download EasyCam it isn't in Synaptic ?
[05:20] <fiction> FuriousRage: i was talking to dell, lol. are you having internet trouble too?
[05:20] <cafg10> i know about tem but i need to know about the hardware card
[05:20] <gnaleo> Hi, how would I go about to make a folder and all its content very private? Like encrypt the folder, hide it .. or whatever ... in advance, thanks
[05:20] <FuriousRage> fiction: oh, and yeah ;>
[05:20] <fiction> dell: does your router require a password?
[05:20] <DJAdmiral> npster: no, you need to add your own repository
[05:20] <dell> yep
[05:20] <fiction> FuriousRage: one second man
[05:20] <DJAdmiral> npster: the repository it says on the wiki i mean
[05:20] <gnaleo> !encrypt
[05:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about encrypt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:20] <gnaleo> !encryption
[05:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about encryption - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:20] <fiction> dell: what kind of password? hex digits or normal letters and numbers?
[05:20] <dura> Anyone here using Joomla and mysql with a port 80 redirected URL?
[05:21] <dell> normal letter
[05:21] <fiction> ok
[05:21] <fiction> then type this
[05:21] <dell> number
[05:21] <frogzoo> gnaleo: interesting question...how private?
[05:21] <fiction> ?
[05:21] <fiction> both?
[05:21] <gnaleo> fiction, so that noone uses my computer (including my user) can open it without a password
[05:22] <fiction> oh
[05:22] <frogzoo> gnaleo: a cryptd file system then
[05:22] <gnaleo> fiction, ive heard you can make some sort of encryptet container or something .. actually done that a loong time ago, but dont remember what or how it was
[05:23] <fiction> gnaleo: i dont know either =(
[05:23] <FuriousRage> gnaleo: www.truecrypt.org for container
[05:23] <fiction> dell: when you did 'iwconfig', did you see all that next to ath0?
[05:23] <gnaleo> frogzoo, cryptd file system ..
[05:23] <gnaleo> FuriousRage, ok, ille try
[05:23] <dell> 1 sec let me check
[05:23] <dell> IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"netgear"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[05:23] <dell>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[05:23] <dell>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:23] <dell>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[05:23] <dell>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[05:23] <dell>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:24] <fiction> is that ath0 or eth0?
[05:24] <fiction> it should say more to the left
[05:24] <DJAdmiral> dell please use the pastebin!
[05:24] <DJAdmiral> !pastebin
[05:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:24] <dell> eth1
[05:24] <fiction> it has lo, aht0, eth0
[05:24] <fiction> ethl
[05:24] <fiction> ok
[05:24] <fiction> type this in terminal
[05:24] <fiction> iwconfig eth1 key s:"your password here"
[05:25] <fiction> password is either the ASCII or HEX password
[05:25] <dell> but eth1 is not working
[05:25] <dell> i need to used a pcm car
[05:25] <searayman> i have a quick little question about the update manager
[05:25] <fiction> dell type
[05:25] <fiction> dhclient
[05:25] <dell> eth1 is my inter net
[05:25] <fiction> and show me what you get
[05:25] <fiction> wait
[05:26] <fiction> dell, check your PMs
[05:26] <searayman> in my update manager when i click on the different updates i have to see the changes it dosent show me anything!!!!
[05:26] <FuriousRage> does ubuntu have any known problems with inboard ethernet controller on ASUS nForce4 mobos?
[05:26] <gnaleo> FuriousRage, do you think you can give me a quicky on how to proseed with this? i have a dir, and want to crypt it with all its files
[05:26] <dell> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3
[05:26] <dell> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[05:26] <dell> All rights reserved.
[05:26] <dell> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
[05:26] <dell> can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied
[05:26] <dell> Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permission denied
[05:26] <dell> drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted
[05:27] <fiction> dell
[05:27] <fiction> check your PM
[05:27] <dell> what is pm
[05:27] <fiction> are you using xchat?
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: some of those have 2 nics... is yours one of those?
[05:27] <FuriousRage> gnaleo: with TC you create an container , then you could it with truecrypt something, dont recall how to do it in linux, but windows get an GUI for it all
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > dell
[05:27] <gnaleo> FuriousRage, yes, so I saw on the page .. to bad you didnt get the gui for linux
[05:27] <verus_> i installed apache and libapache2-mod-php4 . still when i hit my webservers index.php it's not parsed but shown as a download, why?
[05:28] <mathieu> verus_: did you restart the webserver?
[05:28] <mathieu> verus_: apache1 and libapache2-mod-php4?
[05:28] <verus_> mathieu: yes i did
[05:28] <gnaleo> FuriousRage,  Enter file or device path for new volume: <--- what should I put here? Just create a file, or?
[05:28] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: mine only got one "plug" back in the mobo, alsmo i got an "thing" called sit0
[05:28] <verus_> mathieu: no it's apache 2
[05:29] <FuriousRage> gnaleo: something like mycontainer.tc would suffice iirc
[05:29] <dell> so what is PMs
[05:29] <mathieu> verus_: check /etc/apache2/mod* if there's a symlink for php
[05:29] <hlandro> I've got a problem with OpenOffice: In all file-related dialog boxes the text is replaced by squares (as in http://85.164.103.197/~landro/saveas.png (hope I got napt working right)). Can anyone help me with this?
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> pm = Private message
[05:29] <fiction> dell: Private Messages that im sending you on irc
[05:29] <mathieu> verus_: if not: a2enmod <the name of the php module for apache>
[05:29] <dell> hooooo
[05:29] <dell> ok
[05:29] <verus_> mathieu: there is
[05:30] <W_McL> in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled must be a symlink to the php module in /etc/apache2/mods-availiable
[05:30] <mathieu> also for the config
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: do you know which chipset the nic uses... it might be nforce but not sure
[05:30] <verus_> mathieu: yes, in mods-available and mods-enabled
[05:30] <spec> !sshtunnel
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about sshtunnel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:30] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: windows "ipconfig /All" says NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
[05:30] <fiction> dell: do you see it?
[05:30] <verus_> W_McL: there is
[05:31] <spec> What's the best way to monitor ssh tunnels and restart them if they go down? write my own script?
[05:31] <dell> do you see it, what....
[05:31] <fiction> the private message  sent you
[05:31] <DJAdmiral|Busy> i'll be busy for a while
[05:31] <dell> no
[05:31] <dell> sorry
[05:31] <DJAdmiral|Busy> fiction: he won't be able to see private messages unless he is registered
[05:31] <fiction> aye
[05:31] <wheelswitch> hwo do i restart gnome without restarting my computer?
[05:31] <hlandro> When I start OO in a terminal, I get a warning "Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output"; I guess this has something to do with it... Only, I'm not told what font is bad.
[05:31] <fiction> alright
[05:31] <gnaleo> FuriousRage, ok I have created a container ... and I have sucseffully "mapped" it .. but to where?
[05:31] <spec> wheelswitch: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:31] <DJAdmiral|Busy> wheelswitch: ctrl alt backspace
[05:32] <fiction> tell him how to register please, because i forgot
[05:32] <DJAdmiral|Busy> aagh!
[05:32] <DJAdmiral|Busy> so close lol
[05:32] <FuriousRage> gnaleo: its like mount works, truecrypt /path/mycontainer.tc /where/to/map should work
[05:32] <W_McL> but the name of the network card probably doesn't say anything about the chipset
[05:32] <DJAdmiral|Busy> dell: register using this command: /msg nickserv register thepasswordiwanttohavegoesrighthere
[05:32] <linux_manju> wheelswitch: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:32] <verus_> mathieu: something very strange is happening. putting a test.php in /var/ww works; putting it in a subfolder will not work (no parsing)
[05:32] <FuriousRage> looking for my mobo's manual ;>
[05:32] <fiction> thank you DJ
[05:33] <DJAdmiral|Busy> np fiction
[05:33] <durval> hello folks
[05:33] <durval> having trouble here with id3 tagging in gstreamer
[05:33] <W_McL> for finding the used chipset it might be useful to do a lspci in linux and search for the data of the network card
[05:33] <abhinay> its my "Intel 82845G" card, will xgl works with my system ?
[05:33] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: NB: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 GPU, SB: NVIDIA nForce 410 MCP
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: I saw one page where disabling acpi got it working...
[05:33] <exor|grey> wondering if there is a problem with security.ubuntu.com today? i cannot seem to update my reposititories
[05:33] <durval> for the life of me, can't find neither the "id3mux" or the "id3v2mux" plugins
[05:34] <sethk> exor|grey, it's been down on and off for a couple of days
[05:34] <sid77> exor|grey: security is slow today :)
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> exor|grey: I just finished updating mine
[05:34] <Kaycer> FuriousRage: Having a problem with an NForce network driver?
[05:34] <dell> what program can i used to change of wirelesss
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> exor|grey: no more than 15 minutes ago
[05:34] <fiction> dell
[05:34] <FuriousRage> Kaycer: suppose, cant get an ip in ubuntu live cd (amd64 version )
[05:34] <dell> yep
[05:34] <dell> fiction
[05:34] <fiction> can you ee this?
[05:35] <durval> they were supposed to be in the streamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, but I have it installed and it is NOT there...
[05:35] <fiction>  register using this command: /msg nickserv register choose-a-password-here
[05:35] <abhinay> Intel Motherboard, Petium 4 Processor & 512 MB RAM, Intel 82845G card , will xgl works with my system ???
[05:35] <durval> does anyone here know anything about this?
[05:35] <dell> yep
[05:35] <dell> i type that
[05:35] <fiction> dell now check your private message
[05:35] <Kaycer> FuriousRage: Oh, okay. I was going to suggest it might be forcedeth interferring with it, but if your card is showing up that's probably not it.
[05:35] <dell> hoooo
[05:35] <dell> 1 sec
[05:36] <fiction> if you're using XChat, it's on the top left
[05:36] <dell> hooo i see sonting name ubotu
[05:36] <npster> what is the operating Field of Canonical ?
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: see if this is your model number   http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=65968
[05:36] <frogzoo> !canonical
[05:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about canonical - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:37] <dell> Jack_Sparrow wants you to know: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:37] <fiction> dell: do you see something like #fiction
[05:37] <fiction> ?
[05:37] <DJAdmiral|Busy> omg ubotu doesn't know about canonical! :O
[05:37] <dell> that is what i see
[05:37] <dell> no
[05:37] <bigbill52a> ubuntu works with a 350 mhz p2 with 256 megs ram....and 6 gig hd...
[05:37] <nikin> i have intalled my PRINTER juheyyyyyyyy!!!! :D
[05:37] <DJAdmiral|Busy> npster: you can go to www.canonical.com or www.canonical.org to do so.
[05:37] <bigbill52a> running automatix now on that puter
[05:37] <DJAdmiral|Busy> congrats nikin!
[05:37] <profoX`> automatix = evil
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> dell you should have another tab for fiction
[05:37] <DJAdmiral|Busy> automatix = devil
[05:38] <fiction> yea
[05:38] <dell> nop
[05:38] <DJAdmiral|Busy> easyubuntu = angel!
[05:38] <dell> sorry
[05:38] <fiction> i just messaged you again
[05:38] <frogzoo> bigbill52a: wrong chan for automatix support -> #automatix
[05:38] <fiction> well that is weird.
[05:38] <profoX`> easyubuntu = less evil, but still a little bit evil
[05:38] <dell> hooo
[05:38] <DJAdmiral|Busy> lol profoxX`
[05:38] <linux0> Hello How can I install the actualitazions and repositories?
[05:38] <dell> i see it
[05:38] <bigbill52a> easy ubuntu wont work on if for some reason...just mentioning ...not inquiring about automatix
[05:38] <linux0> Y've taked an ubuntu
[05:38] <fiction> talk to me there dell, i can help you
[05:39] <DJAdmiral|Busy> frogzoo: he just said he was using automatix. he wasn't asking for help on it.
[05:39] <frogzoo> linux0: actualizations - no idea what you mean, repos u get for free with the install
[05:39] <dell> Jack_Sparrow>
[05:39] <bigbill52a> but thanks for the info....will try that channel
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yes dell
[05:39] <fiction> lol jack
[05:39] <linux0> Helo
[05:39] <fiction> thats when you sent him the !paste thing
[05:39] <frogzoo> DJAdmiral|Busy: :/
[05:39] <nikin> i have got some nice task for tomorrow, i have to install ubuntu on a P2 with 128 Mb ram
[05:39] <fiction> he noticed it now
[05:39] <DJAdmiral|Busy> !linux0 do you mean enable universe and multiverse repositories?
[05:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux0 do you mean enable universe and multiverse repositories? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:39] <dell> hoo, ok. i working on the private messenger
[05:40] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: mhm, i do use 1 sata disk (no others in),
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> fiction: that is what I snet him with the bot after he pasted a few lines...
[05:40] <DJAdmiral|Busy> lol that was a bummer lol
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sent
[05:40] <DJAdmiral|Busy> !LFS
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about LFS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <DJAdmiral|Busy> !LinuxFromScratch
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about LinuxFromScratch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <DJAdmiral|Busy> !ubotu
[05:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: fresh install?
[05:40] <linux0> ok thanks
[05:40] <dell> can you help me know
[05:40] <nikin> what would be the pest filesystem for an 500GB HDD?
[05:40] <fiction> Jack_Sparrow: i know, about 30 mins ago lol
[05:40] <durval> folks, does anyone know where to find the idmux/id3v2mux gstreamer plugins? I'm running Dapper, and they were supposed to be in the streamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, but they are NOT there... I've checked. Can anyone here help me?
[05:41] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: dont get past install since ip doesnt work, but isnt acpi something "needed"?
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: not if it is hanging the system
[05:41] <fiction> FuriousRage: trying to install wireless too?
[05:41] <^robertj> when are billboards going to be available via shipit?
[05:41] <AngryElf> allright -- i did sshfs user@host:/path/to/dir mountpoint -- now if I 'ls -l' as my regular user it shows all ?? for owner/perms.....if I 'sudo ls -l' it shows the perms and i can get at the files, any ideas?
[05:41] <Genscher> hey :)
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage:  did live run ok?
[05:41] <frogzoo> nikin: best to have separate partitions for / 500meg, /usr 10gig, /var 5gig, /home the rest - all ext3 + a 1-2gig swap
[05:41] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: ya, that one loads fine (after 5 minutes cd load) ;>
[05:42] <Genscher> is there a way to launch kde applications within ubuntu? ( i don't like to install the whole stuff again for kubuntu)
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: everything on the cd is compressed and cpu intensive. HD install will run faster
[05:42] <amortvigil> hey what's wrong with the ubuntu pakkage servers?
[05:42] <dell> i going to reboot the system ,,,, thak you
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: but live does not see your nic.. correct
[05:42] <bloolh> can anyone help me with wireless internet connection please?
[05:42] <nikin> frogzoo: it will not be the system partition
[05:43] <holycow> damn .. update is not too speedy today
[05:43] <holycow> any other repos that are known to be fasti'ish besides uk?
[05:43] <gnaleo> FuriousRage, ok, I have sucsesfully maped the the container onto "/home/user/private" .. but I cant write to it by normal .. is there a special way to copy files into the mounted dir?
[05:43] <nikin> that is an otherone 80Gig
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bloolh: we will need to know which chipset it uses, not just the name
[05:43] <mwe> holycow: what mirror?
[05:43] <DJAdmiral> amortvigil: the security package servers are slow atm
[05:43] <Evil_Ed`> tell me
[05:43] <holycow> uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: the live see see and identifies my nic, gives it an ipv6 ip, none ipv4, cant renew the ip either
[05:43] <BedHed> G'day, noob convert here and having keyboard prolems...  keep ge7tin/7g stv/ff 7like thi/7s
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Genscher: sure I use kde apps in Ub all the time
[05:43] <frogzoo> holycow: if there's a fast repo today, they're keeping it to themselves...
[05:43] <arto> I can see the bluetooth on ubuntu, through gnome device manager. I can't connect thought...
[05:43] <mwe> holycow: arhive.ubuntu.com might be faster. it redirects to the least busy mirror.
[05:44] <bigbill52a> btw i am using a wireless usb adapter with the p2...works fine...hard to believe
[05:44] <holycow> mwe, ah neat
[05:44] <BedHed> any gurus outh there can help?
[05:44] <Genscher> Jack_Sparrow: well if i start the application it says: "please ensure that kdebase is installed" (i'm talking of koctave)
[05:44] <frogzoo> mwe: except I got auckland :(
[05:44] <wildman> BedHed, which kind of keyboard do you have?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage:  I saw that yesterday something about editing the file to disable ipv6
[05:44] <amortvigil> DJAdmiral> not only the security ...
[05:44] <hackel> Is archive.ubuntu.com down at the moment?
[05:44] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: hmm do i disable APCI in bios or somewhere in the ubuntu settings?
[05:44] <BedHed> labtec media wireless desktop
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Gen how are you installing it?
[05:44] <frogzoo> hackel: it's just slow
[05:44] <wildman> BedHed, I meant layout sorry ;)
[05:45] <docgnome> what is the class path for the sun-java-jdk package?
[05:45] <wildman> BedHed, say, if it US: sudo loadkeys us
[05:45] <BedHed> loaded linEAK but did not fix problem
[05:45] <nikin> if i insert a file in /etc/init.d will it automaticly beenig started when the system boots?
[05:45] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: been there done that, but it seams that its that ACPI that closest to my problem
[05:45] <DJAdmiral> hackel, amortvigil: both the archive and the security archives are slow atm.
[05:45] <hackel> Thanks
[05:45] <Minuo> I was doing a package install earlier, when my VPS froze (unfortunately it was a few days ago, I can't remember what package it was).  I brought my server back up, and aptitude started telling me "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.".  I did that, and each time it froze.  The last time it won't  boot, after getting that fixed (server wanted to fsck the filesystem), I now get the same run dpkg
[05:45] <wildman> BedHed, I have a plain old IBM keyboard here, so I don't play much with keyboard related stuff... just throwing you a lead
[05:45] <BedHed> Yes, checked layout and even tried different ones but same problem
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage:  I would run live to grub screen, hit F6 and edit the grub command line
[05:46] <fiction> is compiling my own kernek hard?>
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: acpi=off
[05:46] <gnaleo> FuriousRage, ah, had to be root :) users get read only .. but thats great .. works perfectly!
[05:46] <mwe> fiction: no
[05:46] <BedHed> thanks, wildman, just got it for $10 as the cat dumped water on my last one
[05:46] <mwe> fiction: configuring it might be though ;)
[05:46] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: oki, going to test that now then, thanks
[05:46] <FuriousRage> gnaleo: oh yeah, that too ;>
[05:46] <wildman> BedHed, it should work no matter how much it costed ;)
[05:46] <peanutb> im having trouble useing my modem i have the via driver installed and know its the correct driver but it seems to stall when connecting to the dial-up server that seems to be nt based if it makes a difference
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: That is my only guess
[05:46] <wildman> BedHed, does loadkeys solve your pb?
[05:46] <mwe> fiction: you can use the ubuntu config as base though
[05:47] <mwe> fiction: why do you need to compile your own kernel?
[05:47] <fiction> mwe: thanks. i will have to google
[05:47] <BedHed> wildman, agree and it does in windows, but not in ubuntu or kubuntu...
[05:47] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: anything that might work is worth testing ;>
[05:47] <fiction> mwe: i wanted to install something on another distro
[05:47] <roy_lp> when i try to use "make" command i recieve:" bash: make: command not found"
[05:47] <peanutb> im having trouble useing my modem i have the via driver
[05:47] <peanutb>                  installed and know its the correct driver but it seems to
[05:47] <peanutb>                  stall when connecting to the dial-up server that seems to be
[05:47] <peanutb>                  nt based if it makes a difference
[05:47] <mwe> fiction: ok
[05:47] <peanutb> sorry
[05:47] <wildman> BedHed, does loadkeys solve your pb?
[05:47] <fiction> mwe: and it said something about not having kernel-build files. do you know what that is?
[05:47] <BedHed> no
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> !search canonical
[05:47] <ubotu> Found: sabdfl, buntudot, sabdlf
[05:47] <wildman> sigh...
[05:47] <wheels3572> mwe or fiction speaking of Kernels how do I update mine from 2.6.15.23 to .26?
[05:47] <Genscher> bye guys. will back when linux is useable
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> !sabfdl
[05:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about sabfdl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:48] <BedHed> sorry hard to keep up as I have to bkspace all the time
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> !savdfl
[05:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about savdfl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:48] <mwe> fiction: linux-headers-$(uname -r) probably
[05:48] <wildman> BedHed, no pb...
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> !sabdfl
[05:48] <ubotu> sabdfl is Mark Shuttleworth, self-appointed benevolent dictator for life, cosmonaut, founder of Canonical and primary driver of Ubuntu
[05:48] <Hadar> bash: make: command not found
[05:48] <Hadar> oops
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Gentle: bye
[05:48] <fiction> wheels: ubuntu should show you an update balloon thing
[05:48] <mwe> wheels3572: sudo aptitidu update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:48] <Hadar> y i can't run make ? i have a makefile ?
[05:48] <wheels3572> mwe, will apt-get work too?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Hadar: did you install build-essential?
[05:49] <mwe> wheels3572: yeah
[05:49] <wheels3572> mwe, ok ty
[05:49] <Hadar> no
[05:49] <ompaul> !build_essential > Hadar
[05:49] <Hadar> i will
[05:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about build_essential  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:49] <hackel> Anyone know why Nautlius doesn't pass any arguments (like the url!) to my chosen application trying to open a file off a smb share?
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> fiction: compiling your own kernel isn't exactly a good idea unless you're really experienced
[05:49] <ompaul> !build-essential > Hadar
[05:49] <fiction> mwe: i used the add/remove program and installed xfce windowmanager, but its not listed in the sessions when i login. do you know anything about this?
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> !search canonical
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: sabdfl, buntudot, sabdlf
[05:49] <fiction> DJAdmiral: yea i think im not going to
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> !buntudot
[05:49] <ubotu> http://www.buntudot.org is a 3rd party *buntu news website with articles, reviews, how-tos, and links for all the buntu's ( not affiliated or run by Canonical Ltd. )
[05:49] <ubotu> buntudot.org also runs a 3rd party Repository of ubuntu software see : http://www.buntudot.org/howtos/buntudotorg-repositories/
[05:49] <mwe> fiction: did you restart gdm?
[05:49] <mwe> fiction: or reboot
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> !sabdlf
[05:50] <ubotu> sabdlf is Mark Shuttleworth, cosmonaut and founder of Canonical, main sponsor of Ubuntu
[05:50] <ubuntu> server irc.freenode.net
[05:50] <Minuo> what can I do if aptitude tells me "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." and dpkg --configure -a tells me "dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory"?   I have some Linux experience mostly on Fedora, so I'm not too familiar with aptitude.
[05:50] <fiction> yes i rebooted
[05:50] <arto> anybody had some experience with usb bluetooth devices???
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> !canonical
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about canonical - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <`JB> !wine>`JB
[05:51] <BedHed> need some help with a labtec keyboard
[05:51] <mwe> Minuo: can't you complete the installation of whatever you were installing. then uninstall it if you want?
[05:51] <arto> anybody had some experience with usb bluetooth devices???
[05:52] <docgnome> does anyone know where the sun java packages put the jdk? I'm trying to tell jree where they are... but I can't find them so that's kinna hard.
[05:52] <Minuo> mwe: the problem is I'm not positive what i was installing, it was a few days ago and I was busy, so this is the first time I've gotten a chance to fix it, because the filesystem wanted an fsck and I didn't have a chance to talk to my providor about getting it done
[05:52] <^robertj> I noticed that last time I was playing a full-screen opengl game I was still getting my notification bubbles, is that true of all full-screen apps now?
[05:52] <fiction> Is there a way to make ubuntu faster? or a lighter version of ubuntu to download?
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> fiction: use kubuntu
[05:52] <^robertj> (really like that feature, although a different theme for full screen would be nice)
[05:52] <mjr> arto, pretty much any should work, though of course I'm not positively sure about all devices on the market
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> fiction: i mean xubuntu sorry
[05:52] <mwe> `JB: just /msg ubotu <FACTOID>
[05:52] <fiction> DJAdmiral: does xubuntu have a add/remove thing
[05:52] <Minuo> mwe: and I can't get apt-get to do anything for me, even if I knew what package
[05:52] <fiction> like ubuntu does
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> fiction: yep
[05:52] <tr1gg3r> docgnome, which java at cmdline should tell u
[05:52] <fiction> thank you
[05:53] <DJAdmiral> fiction: np
[05:53] <mwe> Minuo: dpkg -l|grep -v ^ii|grep -v ^rc might give you a clue
[05:53] <Minuo> mwe: "dpkg-query: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory"
[05:54] <arto> mjr: My usb bluetooth device is connected well, and it's functional. However, I cannot connect to it with my SE W800 mobile.
[05:54] <fiction> DJAdmiral: so xubuntu is just a lighter version of ubuntu?
[05:54] <mwe> Minuo: oh
[05:54] <fiction> ie: less packages?
[05:54] <Kyral_Laptop> no
[05:54] <Kyral_Laptop> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE as default
[05:54] <fiction> zomg
[05:54] <fiction> <3
[05:54] <mwe> Minuo: I'm not sure how to fix it then. seems like the file disappeared
[05:54] <fiction> thats what ive been trying to do
[05:54] <Kyral_Laptop> XFCE is by its nature lighter than GNOME
[05:54] <fiction> install xfce
[05:54] <tr1gg3r> fiction, xubuntu uses xfce window mgr where ubuntu uses gnome
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> fiction: lol
[05:54] <jimcooncat> Xubuntu has no gnome installed
[05:54] <fiction> thanks kyral and dj
[05:54] <Minuo> mwe: I'm not sure exactly what that file stores, but it seems important... like all the packages that are installed
[05:54] <jimcooncat> but you can add it easily
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> fiction: np
[05:54] <Kyral_Laptop> fiction: install xubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <mjr> arto, well that's not a bt/usb question then, but a bt/se w800 question :]  Google no help?
[05:55] <fiction> The reason i ask is
[05:55] <mwe> Minuo: it's the status of installed things
[05:55] <DJAdmiral> fiction: install xubuntu-desktop and you'd get Xubuntu
[05:55] <nikin> who wrote the clock aplet for Gnome? 12MB of memory used by it :P
[05:55] <arto> mrj: No, it's a know-about-nothing question ;) I don't know how I could connect!!
[05:55] <fiction> i tried zenwalk, and it was really light and fast. and i think its because it uses xfce
[05:55] <BedHed> If no one can help with a keyboard problem can you point me to another place to get help besides ubuntoforums, newsgroups, or labtec?
[05:55] <fiction> so ive been trying to install xfce here
[05:55] <mwe> Minuo: I think creating an empty file by that name should make dpkg work but all state info will still be gone
[05:55] <arto> mjr, I mean :)
[05:55] <fiction> BedHed: give us more details on your problem
[05:55] <nikin> BedHed whats your problem?
[05:55] <fiction> !keyboard
[05:55] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:55] <Minuo> mwe: Is there a way to re-create all that info?
[05:55] <jimcooncat> I like xubuntu because it has the ubuntu look and feel now
[05:56] <fiction> oh
[05:56] <shawnr_> Is there a plugin for ABI Word to read open office?
[05:56] <fiction> When i open terminal here in ubuntu, it takes about half a second before i see the comand line prompt
[05:56] <fiction> a tad bit low
[05:56] <budluva> can anyone suggest a player such as amarok, but for gnome? i don't want to install all the kde stuff that comes along with amarok
[05:56] <BedHed> ubotu, it is not my shortcuts and I have already add the sourceforge software
[05:56] <fiction> so i want to try something lighter
[05:56] <mwe> Minuo: not short of reinstalling everything I think. I don't know why it's gone though
[05:56] <mjr> arto, ah. Well. Are you finnish, 'cause http://www.claudiocamacho.org/fi/freak/w800i.phtml seems to talk about that stuff a bit?
[05:56] <stefg> !listen
[05:56] <DJAdmiral> fiction: if you want xubuntu then, then simply install the xubuntu-desktop package, and your ubuntu turns into xubuntu! :D
[05:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about listen - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:56] <BedHed> I keep getting stuff li7ke th/7is allv t/7he time...
[05:56] <fiction> BedHed: ubotu is a bot
[05:56] <mwe> Minuo: does ls -l /var/lib/dpkg confirm it's gone?
[05:57] <arto> mjr: no, but I can manage to translate it through google.
[05:57] <Minuo> mwe: When my server came up it wanted an fsck, its possible it was deleted
[05:57] <Minuo> mwe: yes
[05:57] <tr1gg3r> budluva, banshee or rhythmbox, not quite the same as amarok but ok
[05:57] <shawnr_> budluva, i was just like you. but i went through all the players i could find, some are close but still in devel and need tons of work. I gave in. using amarok right now. nothing compares
[05:57] <mwe> Minuo: oh
[05:57] <fiction> BedHed: you keep seeing leet talk?
[05:57] <BedHed> thanks fiction
[05:57] <shawnr_> Is there a plugin for ABI Word to read open office?
[05:57] <mjr> arto, actually, it seems http://www.claudiocamacho.org/en/freak/w800i.phtml has the same in english :] 
[05:57] <spec> How can I test if I'm "in" a screen session?
[05:57] <budluva> tr1gg3r: rythmbox is ugly, haven't tried banshee though...ill give it a shot, thanks
[05:57] <fiction> leet talk is like: 1337 4ello
[05:57] <mwe> Minuo: I think it's pretty bad
[05:57] <arto> mjr, yeah I noticed :D
[05:57] <spec> budluva: songbird i hear is elite
[05:57] <BedHed> no I don't fiction
[05:57] <nikin> shawnr: do you mean open document?
[05:58] <jimcooncat> spec: ^a ?
[05:58] <fiction> Oh ok
[05:58] <budluva> spec, cool, ill check it out thanks
[05:58] <BedHed> not once...  strange
[05:58] <stefg> budluva: http://listengnome.free.fr/
[05:58] <fiction> what do you exactly mean by this: I keep getting stuff li7ke th/7is allv t/7he time...
[05:58] <shawnr_> yea i need abiword to open a openoffice word doc
[05:58] <spec> jimcooncat: shell script test?
[05:58] <mwe> Minuo: it will think nothing is installed if you create an empty file I think
[05:58] <DJAdmiral> !canonical is Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[05:58] <mjr> arto, seems the page itself doesn't talk much about bt, but at least there's a link to another
[05:58] <Minuo> mwe: I think so too, since neither an empty file nor the status-old file is helping at all
[05:58] <BedHed> see the 7s and the /'s and the v's.  as I type they show up
[05:58] <Minuo> mwe: I'll ask my vps provider to re-image the server, I don't think this is worth fixing
[05:58] <fiction> thats leet talk
[05:58] <fiction> lol
[05:58] <jimcooncat> spec, sorry don't know. I think there is a way tho
[05:58] <mwe> Minuo: yeah
[05:59] <nikin> shanr: which version of OOo are you using?
[05:59] <fiction> i wish i knew how you got that. i want to try it otu
[05:59] <BedHed> lol sorry, IRC is not my thing
[05:59] <Hadar> i have no stdio.h and math.h . why ??...
[05:59] <BedHed> it sux, as I have to bkspace all the time
[05:59] <jimcooncat> spec, check out the -e flag
[05:59] <sk4jvoker> i have trouble with wine and Call of duty 1 , installs the first cd then asks for cd2 and i cant unmount cd1 to mount cd2 what to do?
[05:59] <BedHed> and commands are hard to do
[05:59] <shawnr_> nikin, im not im using abiword, oo isn't installed but these files were created with the lastest stable build
[05:59] <nikin> BedHed: is your keyboard layout seted right?
[06:00] <BedHed> set to us
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> sk4jvoker: you need to use a particular command with wine or cedega, i don't remember, let me find it
[06:00] <mwe> Minuo: but you had a file system corruption that was fixed?
[06:00] <spec> !canonical is Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[06:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[06:00] <BedHed> I have tried different ones
[06:00] <BedHed> same in Gnome and KDE
[06:00] <wildman> BedHed, maybe in /etc/X11/xorg.conf it is not well setup ?
[06:00] <spec> !canonical > DJAdmiral
[06:00] <Minuo> mwe: from what I understand, yes.  The server is a VPS, so I couldn't see the boot process
[06:00] <wildman> BedHed, sorry, but I'm whipping a 100 cats at a time
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> thanks spec!
[06:00] <spec> DJAdmiral: np
[06:00] <mwe> Minuo: what file system?
[06:00] <Hadar> i also recieve this error when try to add PE qinsows parser: "an error occured while CDT project async saved"
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> spec you're an ubuntu op?
[06:00] <nikin> shawner: ok i look for it, just a minute
[06:00] <budluva> x86_64 packages still work in 32bit dapper???
[06:01] <BedHed> I will take a look wildman
[06:01] <mwe> budluva: no
[06:01] <Minuo> ext3
[06:01] <budluva> spec: seems your songbird is in 64bit format
[06:01] <BedHed> back in windows right now so I can type faster
[06:01] <mwe> Minuo: have you looked in lost+found?
[06:01] <Minuo> I don't have anything named status in there
[06:01] <DJAdmiral> !canonical
[06:01] <ubotu> canonical is Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[06:01] <spec> budluva: that's f'n odd ... fedora core = x86, ubuntu = 64bit
[06:02] <Minuo> mwe: What would I be looking for in the file?
[06:02] <DJAdmiral> wicked
[06:02] <BedHed> If I can fix this and find a good newsreader I will wipe the evil MS off my HD...
[06:02] <mwe> minerale: hmm. the status file
[06:02] <spec> budluva: just use the 386 "fedora core" version
[06:02] <bur[n] er> anyone able to watch teh dailyshow via their online streaming page?
[06:02] <sk4jvoker> i have wine dont have cedega
[06:02] <mwe> Minuo: ^^
[06:02] <spec> budluva: it's just source anyways
[06:02] <mwe> Minuo: I don't think I can help you :|
[06:02] <DJAdmiral> sk4jvoker: ooooooone sec almost have that command
[06:02] <Minuo> mwe: Ok, thanks, I undrestand
[06:02] <budluva> spec ahh, wasnt sure if it would work or not
[06:02] <ManiacKY> My system has 4 gig of ram. Yet its only seeing 3 gig in ubuntu. It sees all 4 in Windows 2003. Do I have to do something special to the see the remaining gig of memory?!
[06:02] <wildman> time to go back to work (part of those 100 cats to whip ;))
[06:02] <sk4jvoker> OK
[06:02] <AJ004> ubuntu update servers are toast
[06:02] <wildman> BedHed, good luck!
[06:03] <spec> budluva: it should...it's a still proof of concept though, so it might not work :p
[06:03] <BedHed> thanx, I'll keep trying
[06:03] <DJAdmiral> sk4jvoker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega#head-20d0c7a86b9eda97ca8654d45b92b0bd1d545563 <--- this should help you out ^^
[06:03] <BedHed> let you know when I figure it out..
[06:03] <trappist> ManiacKY: you need a kernel that supports that much ram.  not sure which one that would be.
[06:03] <nemlah> Hello all can someone paste me his free output after a restart with gnome and only gaim running
[06:03] <nemlah> Iam seeing a used mem right after the restart = 1021688
[06:03] <ManiacKY> trappist I'm running 686 smp now. Had to load that to get dual processors working
[06:03] <Hadar> does stdio.h comes automaticlly with GCC ?
[06:04] <Hadar> an u tell me that package name ?
[06:04] <AJ004> new kernel images in linux and they wont download :(
[06:04] <sk4jvoker> ok thanks will check it out
[06:04] <mjr> Hadar, install build-essentials; it brings in all the stuff needed to compile c/c++
[06:04] <Hadar> i managed to install make builders, thanks, btw :)
[06:04] <DJAdmiral> np sk4jvoker
[06:04] <nemlah> anyone?
[06:04] <Hadar> mjr: i just did
[06:04] <trappist> AJ004: yeah security.ubuntu.com seems to be having a bad day
[06:04] <gnaleo> how do I cp files as root in gui? or is that possible?
[06:04] <nemlah> is over 1GB ram usage after restart ok?
[06:04] <mjr> Hadar, well then you have stdio.h
[06:04] <nikin> shawner: are you here?
[06:04] <Hadar> but i still get a building error from eclipse that it doesn't find stdio.h and math.h ...
[06:05] <GnarusLeo> how do I cp files as root in gui? or is that possible? or move, or whatever
[06:05] <AJ004> trappist can ubuntu offered a paid version if usage is too high on the free one
[06:05] <AJ004> i wonder
[06:05] <AJ004> maybe ubuntu should have 2 different tiers of service for updates........
[06:05] <trappist> sure they could
[06:05] <nikin> shawner_ there is a plugin for it... look at http://opendocumentfellowship.org/Applications/Abiword
[06:05] <nemlah> is over 1GB ram usage after restart ok? Ain't linux supposed to be light?
[06:05] <Hadar> mjr, maye there's a way t install it ?
[06:05] <trappist> AJ004: my kernel images are downloading - just slowly
[06:05] <marcel__> how can I configure printing in ubuntu?
[06:05] <AJ004> i realize there are people who want it to remain free and it should but maybe they could charge for the rest of us :P
[06:06] <mjr> Hadar, recommend installing premade Eclipse packages from the universe repository
[06:06] <mjr> !universe
[06:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:06] <FuriousRage> meh acpi only worked to disable my disk drive nothing else ;>
[06:06] <Hadar> i dont understND
[06:06] <AJ004> actually maybe google and ubuntu could hook up for the servers
[06:06] <Hadar> should i uninstall eclipse and re install it again ?...
[06:06] <fiction> Ok guys
[06:06] <azmrb> update today broke Realplayer, OO, and wont/cant download new updates???
[06:06] <fiction> i shall go install xubuntu desktop
[06:06] <mjr> Hadar, ah, nevermind, I thought you were compiling eclipse
[06:07] <nemlah> is over 1GB ram usage after restart ok? Ain't linux supposed to be light?
[06:07] <FuriousRage> i admit defeat, i surrenter to windows xp
[06:07] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: ubuntu is free however having SOME repository servers for people who pay only doesn't go against the concept of free if im not mistaken. as long as there are some free repositories your suggestion ought to be good i suppose.
[06:07] <fiction> \-_-/ says farewell
[06:07] <Hadar> mjr - IN eclipse :)
[06:07] <trappist> ManiacKY: grep CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[06:07] <DJAdmiral> fiction: WAIT!
[06:07] <DarkPixel> lol ownt
[06:07] <Hadar> but it says i dont have stdioh ... y ?
[06:07] <FuriousRage> i admit defeat, i surrenter to windows xp
[06:07] <mjr> Hadar, I don't know why it would complain that
[06:07] <AJ004> djadmiral unless they can improve the servers for all to use
[06:07] <nemlah> is over 1GB ram usage after restart ok? Ain't linux supposed to be light?
[06:07] <Hadar> can u tell me how to check which compiler eclipse uses ?
[06:07] <AJ004> djadmiral im sure google has extra server space :)
[06:07] <mjr> nemlah, ram not used is ram wasted
[06:08] <DJAdmiral> fiction: don't leave as yet
[06:08] <AJ004> djadmiral people keep using those google videos which instantly load
[06:08] <DarkPixel> he already did
[06:08] <AJ004> anyways
[06:08] <nemlah> mjr: after a restart
[06:08] <DJAdmiral> fiction:  noooooooooooooooooooo!!! lol
[06:08] <nemlah> so if i start some apps i will use swap
[06:08] <AJ004> it is downloading now :)
[06:08] <AJ004> slowly
[06:08] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: can you tell me WHY would google want to partner up with ubuntu?
[06:08] <AJ004> djadmiral cause google uses it
[06:08] <Hadar> mjr ?
[06:08] <mjr> nemlah, or, more likely stuff will be dumped out of the file cache
[06:09] <mjr> Hadar, no, I don't know Eclipse
[06:09] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: they use linux, not ubuntu :P
[06:09] <Hadar> :/
[06:09] <AJ004> djadmiral google uses goobuntu in house
[06:09] <AJ004> djadmiral:  its a customized version of ubuntu
[06:09] <Hadar> does any1 know eclipse ?
[06:09] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: oh nice. however
[06:09] <DarkPixel> and msn uses linux thats funny ha ha
[06:09] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: just cause they use ubuntu doesn't mean they'll be willing to host repository servers
[06:09] <sethk> Hadar, I've used it, although not for a while
[06:09] <walkover> som questions are so stupid that you can't find the answer on google. I have one of that nature. How do i make a bashscript?
[06:09] <AJ004> djadmiral we shall see
[06:10] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: try emailing google in either case.
[06:10] <AJ004> djadmiral nah.......... windows vista is still delayed and i expect something big to happen to linux right around the time of vista's release
[06:10] <DarkPixel> Msn uses linux microsoft has been defeated
[06:10] <AJ004> plenty of time left in the game
[06:10] <marcel__> can you guys tell me how to configure  printing?
[06:11] <sethk> walkover, with an editor
[06:11] <marcel__> how?
[06:11] <AJ004> as to what that is i dont know
[06:11] <AJ004> i just keep updating ubuntu for now
[06:11] <walkover> how do you make it executeable? .. i guess thats the real question
[06:11] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: meh.
[06:12] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!! NOOOOO!!! no seriously
[06:12] <kevinz> hello. My emacs does not support python mode. how to install it?
[06:12] <AJ004> djadmiral any idea whats new in the latest kernel update?
[06:12] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: what exactly is the problem again?
[06:12] <Hadar> seth: did u see my problem ?
[06:12] <sethk> kevinz, download the mode files, and modify your .emacs to load them
[06:12] <sethk> Hadar, no
[06:12] <Hadar> i have ubuntu and installed build-essentials,GCC, and CDT, but when i try to compile my project i get building error that stdio,h is missing - y ?
[06:12] <DJAdmiral> aj004: no idea, i suppose you could check the official linux website and check out the changelogs or something
[06:13] <FuriousRage> DJAdmiral: what ever i tried, i cant get an ip, now lastly i tried to acpi=off (f6) on the ubuntu live cd, only made my disk drive disabled tho
[06:13] <Hadar> (thats the problem)
[06:13] <kevinz> sethk: oh that seems complicated
[06:13] <AJ004> djadmiral would u know how i can modify my grub to take out the old kernel updates in there
[06:13] <tristanmike> I'm having a rediculous time connecting to the Ubuntu servers to get my updates, I don't see anything in /topic can someone please help, I can not connect at all
[06:13] <DarkPixel> kernal is like .18
[06:13] <DarkPixel> u buntu is .15 i think
[06:13] <AJ004> djadmiral everytime i upgrade kernels i have more grub options, its rediculously long now
[06:13] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: so it's your cruddy isp's fault, not ubuntu!!
[06:13] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Does your interface show up atall?
[06:13] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: lol
[06:13] <trappist> tristanmike: security.ubuntu.com is having a bad day
[06:13] <nikin> Furius: what system do you have? whats in the box?
[06:13] <sethk> Hadar, I assume you mean stdio.h.  Probably an include path issue.  First try to compile from the command line so that you can verify that gcc works.  Then look at the include paths from within eclipse
[06:13] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: what does it say when you do ifconfig -a
[06:13] <tristanmike> trappist: it's been terrible for a month now, very dissapointing
[06:13] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: yes, and gets some ipv6 ip sorta
[06:14] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: you mean sit0 ??
[06:14] <trappist> tristanmike: I haven't had problems until today. but, yeah.
[06:14] <shriphani> how do i get rid of gnome completely so that i dont have to install gnome updates while i am running xfce
[06:14] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: yes
[06:14] <DJAdmiral> AJ004: not atm, no. however i plan to make my own linux distro soon enough so i'll have to come across GRUB sooner or later.
[06:14] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Do you see any other interfaces other than sit and lo ?
[06:14] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: http://dark-code.bulix.org/34cyqr-11892
[06:14] <Hadar> seth: trying
[06:15] <Hadar> yes i succeed
[06:15] <Hadar> so its a path prolem..
[06:15] <Hadar> what to do ?
[06:15] <sethk> shriphani, you never have to install gnome updates.  regardless of whether or not you are running gnome
[06:15] <shriphani> really ?
[06:15] <sethk> Hadar, there should be paths in the project settings.  Also make sure the compile flag that says "don't use standard include paths" is not on.
[06:15] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: althoight i see now that dhclient tries to get ip from 255.255.255.255 but in windows i see one 255.255.255.0 does it matter?
[06:15] <tristanmike> AJ004: you need to edit "/boot/grub/menu.lst"  don't forget to make a backup
[06:15] <sethk> Hadar, you can find the compile line in the project settings also.
[06:15] <Hadar> seth: ok, checking
[06:16] <DJAdmiral> after these updates are done imma gonna go on to start work on Aamix.
[06:16] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: why dont ya try disabling ipv6 for the time being and renew your address?
[06:16] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Does it work if you assign static ip?
[06:16] <shriphani> then why does the update manager show gnome blah blah in the updates list ?
[06:16] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: been there, tried that, failed that
[06:16] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: only got dyn ip
[06:16] <sethk> shriphani, the fact that it is shown in the update list doesn't mean you have to install the update.
[06:16] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: what is the PC you are using now?
[06:16] <Hadar> seth, im not sure where to search
[06:16] <shriphani> so you mean just uncheck it ?
[06:16] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: is it in the same network
[06:17] <sethk> shriphani, sure
[06:17] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: AMD64 Athlon 4000+ 1mb cache, no router, direct connected to isp thru adsl
[06:17] <sethk> Hadar, in settings for the project.  I don't have it installed on this box, unfortunately.  Project settings, and default project settings, shouldn't be hard to find.
[06:17] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: well...
[06:17] <avu> furiousrage: adsl normally works though pppoe and does not use dhcp
[06:18] <FuriousRage> avalost: mine isnt pppoe and uses dhcp
[06:18] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Is your current PC in the same LAN ( Physical segment)?
[06:18] <mjr> avu, normally and normally, at least in Finland bridged dhcp adsl is common
[06:18] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: its the same pc im trying to get ubuntu getting an ip on
[06:19] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: How could ya browse when you do not have an IP?
[06:19] <spec> can I make ssh write it's PID to a file? (is it practical to use start-stop-daemon with an ssh tunnel?)
[06:19] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: booted back to xp
[06:19] <avu> mjr: ok then. in .de there is not a single isp which does not use pppoe. so, sorry i guess.
[06:19] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Ok here is a test...
[06:20] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: check the current IP assigned to your PC.. with ipconfig /all
[06:20] <nikin> Furius: what is your IP what you get from your ISPs DHCP on windows?
[06:20] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: reboot to ubuntu and run these commands...
[06:20] <Hadar> seth, i dont think im doing something well ...
[06:20] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: ifconfig eth0 <the IP you noted down>
[06:20] <FuriousRage> nikin: 85.226.x.x
[06:20] <Hadar> i have o go, i hope u'll be online tomorrow
[06:21] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: route add default gw <The default gateway you noted down>
[06:21] <Hadar> thanks
[06:21] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: then vi /etc/resolv.conf
[06:21] <DanaG> I can't get X to start.
[06:21] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: specify the dns ips there
[06:21] <DanaG> It can't find the nvidia module.
[06:22] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: oki, will try again ;>
[06:22] <SurfnKid> DanaG, revert it to mesa
[06:22] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: with this format nameserver <dns IP>
[06:22] <sethk> DanaG, modprobe nvidia
[06:22] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: hold on
[06:22] <DanaG> When running the NVIDIA installer, is there anywhere special I have to tell it to install the Xorg module?
[06:22] <DanaG> It defaults to /usr/X11R6
[06:22] <sethk> DanaG, that's where it should be
[06:23] <sethk> DanaG, do lsmod | grep nvidia
[06:23] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: can you paste the ipconfig /all details in pastebin
[06:23] <DanaG> (Oh, and I'm in Windows right now moving some stuff around on my NTFS partitions, so it may be a little while until I boot back to Ubuntu.
[06:23] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: so that i can give you the set of commands..
[06:23] <sethk> DanaG, there is an x level module but there is also a kernel module
[06:23] <jan1024188> hi all
[06:23] <jan1024188> is there anybody who use knoppix from usb stick key
[06:23] <DanaG> The kernel module will modprobe, but Xorg can't find the X module.
[06:23] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: http://dark-code.bulix.org/zxcukw-11893
[06:23] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Hold on
[06:24] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, ubuntu has approximetly about 5000 packages, is there a way to download those packages to cd ?? i have no chance to download it from my computer with synaptic update
[06:24] <gnomefreak> 5000? alot more than that
[06:24] <sethk> DanaG, if the install completed, the module will be in the correct location; at least it has been on all three of my nvidia boxes.  I install taking the defaults.
[06:24] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkeyX: hoary had 18,000 iirc
[06:25] <IRCMonkeyX> gnomefreak : isnt it debian's package number?
[06:25] <DJAdmiral> oh hey gnomefreak, haven't seen you in a while
[06:25] <gnomefreak> DJAdmiral: working with bug alot not really around here
[06:25] <DanaG> \usr\X11R6\lib\libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1.0.8762
[06:25] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: dunno if it matters that i got an SATA2 disk, and nForce 4 onboard nic
[06:26] <IRCMonkeyX> gnomefreak : do i have a chance to download common packages to cd ???
[06:26] <DanaG> (opened with windows ext2 driver, hence the backslashes)
[06:26] <DJAdmiral> gnomefreak: meh well, good to see ya anyways :)
[06:26] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: that should not matter
[06:26] <DanaG> I can still look around on my Linux partition.
[06:26] <gnomefreak> good to see you too
[06:26] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkeyX: not atm
[06:26] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: i tested this before (acpi=off) http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=65968
[06:26] <Ropechoborra> Some game emulator?
[06:26] <DanaG> \usr\X11R6\lib\modules\drivers\nvidia_drv.so
[06:26] <sethk> DanaG, that's the correct location
[06:27] <DanaG> Is it supposed to load glx or GLCore?
[06:27] <IRCMonkeyX> gnomefreak : atm ??
[06:27] <DanaG> I used the nvidia-xconfig.
[06:27] <gnomefreak> at the moment
[06:27] <IRCMonkeyX> gnomefreak : atm network ??
[06:27] <kevinz> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ is not responding
[06:27] <sethk> DanaG, I'll check my x log
[06:27] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkeyX: atm = at the moment
[06:27] <kevinz> err... now ok
[06:27] <gnomefreak> kevinz: known issue
[06:27] <Angela> Helllo, I am attempting to install VMware, and need MAKE... is make part of GCC? TIA :)
[06:28] <navartech> hello world just need to know.......i installed and configure dazuko in my ubunto 6.06 together with antivir ....now i have new kernel update....the question is?! do i need to reinstall and reconfigure dozuko including antivir after installation of new kernel update?
[06:28] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: http://dark-code.bulix.org/rk14ya-11894
[06:28] <RES> anyone know how to setup something similar to Windows ICS/network sharing thing?
[06:28] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: I have pasted the commands there
[06:28] <sethk> DanaG, mine does load nvidia's glx, yes.
[06:28] <linux_manju> try them and see if that works
[06:28] <GnarusLeo> how do I cp files as root in gui? or is that possible? or move, or whatever
[06:28] <IRCMonkeyX> gnomefreak : lets say i did it with synaptic, after will i have a chance back up to these packages? for future use ??
[06:28] <DJAdmiral> Angela: you will need to download the build-essentials package from the ubuntu repositories
[06:28] <RES> I want my xbox to samba into my PC
[06:28] <Angela> thankyou DJAdmiral :)
[06:28] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: You mean with nautilus?
[06:29] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: oki, going into ubuntu cd now and test it
[06:29] <tr1gg3r> Angela, no not part of gcc installing build-essential pkg will get all you need to compile items from src
[06:29] <DanaG> I'm using 2.6.15-26-686
[06:29] <GnarusLeo> linux_manju, yes
[06:29] <FuriousRage> bbl and we'll see ;>
[06:29] <DJAdmiral> Angela: I hope you're downloading VMWare from the ubuntu repositories in the first place though
[06:29] <GnarusLeo> linux_manju, no, sorry .. I use kde
[06:29] <Angela> ooOOOoo it is in the repositories?
[06:29] <Angela> how totaly cool
[06:29] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: well Either add tty7 in /etc/securetty file
[06:30] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl ive set up the vnc remote session from the how to ,i would just like to know if its possiable to change to this session
[06:30] <DJAdmiral> Angela: whenever you want software, check if it is in the repositories first ;)
[06:30] <RES> anyone know how to setup a home network?
[06:30] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: Or do a sudo su - in the current gui
[06:30] <RES> like in WIndows, 'setup home network'
[06:30] <IRCMonkeyX> all ubuntu packages how many gb  ?
[06:30] <Angela> well, I am actualy running linux from windows X64 right now :) I just need make for the VMware tools :)
[06:30] <navartech> hello anyone can help please
[06:30] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: and in the root shell type startx -- :2
[06:30] <navartech> hello world just need to know.......i installed and configure dazuko in my ubunto 6.06 together with antivir ....now i have new kernel update....the question is?! do i need to reinstall and reconfigure dozuko including antivir after installation of new kernel update?
[06:30] <gnu2it2> how to set cron job to run midnight every other sunday?
[06:30] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: that will open one more instance of Xorg with root previlage
[06:30] <Angela> thanks DJAdmiral, I am going to make a real ubuntu install soon, I will look in apt :)
[06:30] <GnarusLeo> linux_manju, ah, so you have to start X with root (in other words)
[06:31] <DJAdmiral> Angela: so basically just get two packages from the ubuntu repos - build-essential and the VMWare Player thingy.
[06:31] <DJAdmiral> Angela: no problemo :P
[06:31] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: Yup
[06:31] <Angela> ok cool! , thank you verry much :)
[06:31] <GnarusLeo> ok, thanks linux_manju
[06:31] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: did you try sudo nautilus ?
[06:31] <IRCMonkeyX> all ubuntu packages how many gb  ? does someone have any idea ?
[06:31] <Angela> ubuntu has advanced a lot science Warty warthog :)
[06:31] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: that should work
[06:31] <Angela> I am impressed
[06:31] <GnarusLeo> linux_manju, im at kde .. but I guess i could get the nautilus package still
[06:32] <navartech> hello world just need to know.......i installed and configure dazuko in my ubunto 6.06 together with antivir ....now i have new kernel update....the question is?! do i need to reinstall and reconfigure dozuko including antivir after installation of new kernel update?
[06:32] <spec> When I use 'start-stop-daemon -m --pidfile ./moo.pid etc etc etc', the pid in moo.pid is one below the actualy pid of the running process....what gives?
[06:32] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: you can try knoppix alternative
[06:33] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: and install rox.. Not sure if rox-filer is there in ubuntu repo.. one second lemme check
[06:33] <sethk> spec, it's the pid of the script that starts the actual process
[06:33] <homerh_linux> hiya how do i change to diffent session screen
[06:34] <spec> sethk: it's calling ssh....so it's the pid of start-stop-daemon itself?
[06:34] <GnarusLeo> linux_manju, getting the pkg now .. it was in the repos, thanks
[06:34] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: why dont ya try konquerro in the mean time.. sudo knoqueror
[06:34] <sethk> spec, I'm not certain about that.  you can find out by running start-stop-daemon under strace, using strace -o filename -ff start-stop...
[06:34] <linux_manju> GnarusLeo: NP
[06:35] <DJAdmiral> IRCMonkeyX: all packages in the ubuntu repositories would be at least 20 gigs i suppose
[06:35] <sethk> spec, that will give you one file for each process started, named   filename.pid
[06:35] <buntu418> does anyone know how to connect motorolla 768i to ubuntu
[06:35] <DarkPixel> gaim crashes randomly is this a problem for everyone?
[06:35] <cbx33> WOW Bluetooth is easy on linux :D
[06:35] <sethk> spec, and you can check the beginning of the trace file to find out what its process was
[06:35] <acojlo> how to install iexplorer for wine?
[06:35] <DJAdmiral> acojlo: www.frankscorner.org can help you out with that :)
[06:35] <acojlo> I'm using bluetooth between SE T610 and Evolution email to synchronise all the data
[06:36] <buntu418> does anyone know how to connect motorolla 768i to ubuntu
[06:36] <IRCMonkeyX> DJAdmiral: hi, is there a way to download most common packages to cd ?? i have no chance to download it from my computer with synaptic update
[06:36] <DarkPixel> Its to the point were i use Kopete to connect to msn cause gaim crashes on startup
[06:36] <acojlo> very nice neighborhood thanks DJAdmiral
[06:36] <GnarusLeo> linux_manju, do you also know .. I dont have gnome, but many programs I use was intended for gnome, and apperantly use gnome icons ... therefore I dont get any icons on these programs ... is there a way to install the gnome-icon package or whatever?
[06:36] <DJAdmiral> IRCMonkeyX: I'm not completely sure about that, but getting all the packages on cd would be a lot of trouble - too much space
[06:37] <DJAdmiral> np acojlo! :)
[06:37] <satempler> what is up with security.ubuntu.com it's so slow
[06:37] <Ace2007> Hi all
[06:37] <satempler> I just did a speed test and it isn't me
[06:37] <IRCMonkeyX> DJAdmiral: so that i need to take my pc to office :(
[06:37] <DJAdmiral> satempler: the ubuntu repositories atm have some serious overload.
[06:38] <IRCMonkeyX> my internet connection is restricted by 6 gb
[06:38] <satempler> DJAdmiral: tell me about it
[06:38] <DJAdmiral> IRCMonkeyX: I suppose so.
[06:38] <buntu418> does anyone know how to connect motorolla 768i phone to ubuntu
[06:38] <DJAdmiral> satempler: it has serious overload, just told you about it right now lol
[06:38] <DanaG> That's so stupid.  What's the ISP?
[06:38] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: what's so stupid?
[06:38] <satempler> it normaly goes about 1MB/s
[06:38] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: oh the 6 gb limit
[06:38] <DanaG> Limited total downloads.
[06:39] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: yeah i know that's a pain
[06:39] <IRCMonkeyX> DJAdmiral : lets say i did it with synaptic, after will i have a chance back up to these packages? for future use ?? may be at another pc
[06:39] <DanaG> On my Charter, I get the advertized 3 megabits down, but I don't get the advertized 256 kilobits up.
[06:39] <DJAdmiral> IRCMonkeyX: to be completely honest I am not sure
[06:39] <DanaG> If I try to go too far over 64 up, it completely chokes the connection.
[06:40] <DanaG> At least they don't have a fixed limit.
[06:40] <DanaG> What's your ISP?
[06:40] <IRCMonkeyX> DanaG: you have 6 gb limit too ?
[06:40] <DanaG> No, no fixed limit.
[06:40] <DanaG> I do sometimes get throttling, and the upload sucks, though.
[06:40] <stefg> firefox and several other security updates are just out... all ubuntoids in the world get their notice and draw their 50-100 MB... who wonders security,ubuntu.com is slow? Update-notifier turns a out as  a self-DDOS Attack...
[06:41] <benjaminwr> is anyone else having problems with the archive.ubuntu.com repo???
[06:41] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: I don't have a fixed limit thankfully, just a 512kbps ADSL plan, however my ISP is actually the most expensive in the world. no kidding.
[06:41] <DJAdmiral> benjaminwr: the ubuntu repositories atm all have some serious overload.
[06:41] <benjaminwr> ok
[06:41] <DanaG> It makes me envious of France, Sweden (I believe), and Japan.
[06:41] <benjaminwr> good to know
[06:42] <DarkPixel> T3 more expensive guarantee ya
[06:42] <benjaminwr> y have a 4096 connection
[06:42] <DJAdmiral> DarkPixel: are you talking about a T3 modem or an ISP called T3?
[06:42] <DarkPixel> Modem
[06:42] <DJAdmiral> DarkPixel: im talking about an ISP, not a modem.
[06:42] <dandesousa> lol
[06:42] <zazeem> i have cedega 5.2.3 and cant get p2p to work, but i got cedega running and plays games but is thee a way to run css in opengl? i know of the cmd -opengl after in command line but need p2p  working for that, is there a way to run css in opengl without p2p?
[06:43] <zazeem> no one will help in cedega chnl
[06:43] <DanaG> What's this about p2p and OpenGL?
[06:43] <DanaG> Don't most P2P clients not use 3D?
[06:43] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: http://dark-code.bulix.org/9y2zyf-11897 <-- still no go
[06:44] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: maybe he's talking about another p2p, a term that means something different?
[06:44] <DanaG> Must be.
[06:44] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: pay to play maybe? Plug to play?
[06:44] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: and pinging yahoo.com didnt work (Altho it was "stuck" for quite a long time)
[06:45] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: did it give any error message while assigning the ip address?
[06:45] <DJAdmiral> time for me to check how much money I have earned from Google Adsense!
[06:45] <DanaG> Hmm, I wonder if people could sue Valve for Steam being anticompetitive due to it banning for Cedega.
[06:45] <s-ndh-c> hi
[06:45] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: no, all your commands went very well, no errors at all, and then ifconfig showed the ip, but couldnt do anything
[06:45] <s-ndh-c> is there some guid on how to get ipw2100 working with dapper?
[06:45] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: Steam banned Cedega?
[06:46] <La_PaRCa> Is there any simple way to play .flv videos stored in my computer?
[06:46] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: that's stupid! they're only kicking out more customers!!
[06:46] <s-ndh-c> i build ieee80211 and ipw2100 with module-assistant but on loading it complains about unknown symbols
[06:46] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: what is the gateway.. does it belong to the ISP.. is there any authentication ?
[06:46] <s-ndh-c> any idea?
[06:46] <DanaG> Well, if you use CVSCedega, i imagine it WOULD ban you.
[06:46] <docgnome> are the apt servers down or what?
[06:46] <DanaG> Due to it not being approved D3D9 drivers.
[06:46] <walkover> does anyone know a command to that will print out the time?
[06:46] <docgnome> walkover: date
[06:46] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: no authentication needed in windows or anything that i know of, its pure "plug and surf" mostly
[06:46] <s-ndh-c> walkover:  date?
[06:47] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: what about commercial Cedega?
[06:47] <DanaG> I haven't experienced it, but I'm inferring.
[06:47] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: FuriousRage : hold on
[06:47] <DanaG> Well, that would probably be better.
[06:47] <DanaG> But I don't have it.
[06:47] <programcode> Hello can someone help me, I accidentally deleted my trash can Icon, and I can't figure out how to get it back..Can someone help me.
[06:47] <s-ndh-c> something must be wrong
[06:47] <walkover> thanks
[06:47] <s-ndh-c> someone with working ipw2100?
[06:48] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: Ahh. You're the first person I've met in this chatroom who chooses to use complete proper punctuation :P
[06:48] <programcode> lol
[06:48] <programcode> Could someone help me?
[06:48] <DJAdmiral> !trash
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about trash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:48] <DJAdmiral> !trashcan
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about trashcan - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:48] <DJAdmiral> aagh.
[06:48] <DJAdmiral> lol
[06:48] <programcode> lol
[06:48] <yggdrasil>  NEC D720101GJ Chipset# RTL8139D Chipset anyone know if these chipsets are supported its a usb firewire combo pci card... ?
[06:48] <programcode> so do I put the location to !trash
[06:48] <DanaG> Also, there's a Windows utility called DXTweaker that can give you NVIDIA triple buffering, but because it ALSO can enable wireframe mode, it's a cheat.  It hooks into Direct3D.
[06:48] <DJAdmiral> not quite lol
[06:48] <saiko> programco: right click on the panel then add then choose trash and add it up
[06:49] <DanaG> So PunkBuster blocks it.
[06:49] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: nice!
[06:49] <leagris> yggdrasil, RTL8139 is a supported chipset
[06:49] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: is it a commercial app though?
[06:49] <DanaG> Punkbuster?
[06:49] <DanaG> I think so.
[06:49] <leagris> yggdrasil, 8139too or 8139cp module handle it
[06:49] <DanaG> Or DXTweaker?  No,
[06:49] <DanaG> .
[06:49] <programcode> That worked thanks
[06:49] <saiko> i have a question, what could cause the problem that my network isn't booting up with the rest of the system, only after reboot it goes up, pretty weird
[06:50] <DanaG> Oh yeah, that reminds me about my own DHCP question.
[06:50] <PacketScan> 51 updates today..  like 21 yesterday.. damn i like this :p
[06:50] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: shoot.
[06:50] <saiko> i use DHCP through windows shared connection
[06:50] <PacketScan> means shits getting fixed..
[06:50] <SurfnKid> !language
[06:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:50] <DanaG> In SuSE 10.1, I had to enable "Always request broadcast response" to get an IP, but I don't know where that option is in Ubuntu.
[06:50] <yggdrasil> leagris. on ppc ?
[06:51] <yggdrasil> well good cuz i allready bought the card ;) haha.
[06:51] <SurfnKid> saiko, set it static and try again
[06:51] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: try this link.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82291.html
[06:51] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: when i try dhclient eth0, it tries 255.255.255.255, but my isp in windows got 255.255.248.0 what i see now
[06:51] <saiko> DanaG: i see ..
[06:51] <leagris> yggdrasil, on any kernel I guess, 8139 is included in kernel since a long time ago
[06:51] <programcode> Has anyone here used 3ddesktop for linux?
[06:51] <yggdrasil> good good...
[06:51] <DanaG> I'm just using static right now.
[06:51] <saiko> SurfnKid: i don't think it's possible
[06:51] <DJAdmiral> programcode: not me, but i've heard of i.
[06:51] <DJAdmiral> it*
[06:51] <DanaG> It's fine for when I'm at home, but if I ever go anywhere else I want it to automatically work.
[06:51] <programcode> what about Yahelite have you used that?
[06:52] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: explain it tries all 255?.. do you mean Its sending those packets or getting those packets as its subnet mask?
[06:52] <yggdrasil> leagris i have a mac clone. 180 mhz with 128 mb of ram. it runs my network storeage and dhcp. im going to put a usb card and firewire card on it . and make it run my hp printer. :) poor thing i hsould just let it go to its grave.. but theres work to be done
[06:52] <programcode> See I am wanting to get on yahoo chat room and get on voice chat inside of linux, but I can't find one that is compatible?
[06:52] <SonicChao> I need to be able to use Yahoo rooms too.
[06:52] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: what i understand it tries to send it to 255.255.255.255 onb port 67
[06:52] <DanaG> I wonder.... Does Trillian work under Wine?
[06:52] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: out of curiosity, how many years of experience of linux do you have?
[06:52] <DanaG> Or Cedega?
[06:53] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[06:53] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: lemme check on trillian
[06:53] <programcode> Trillian works, but won't let you in yahoo rooms
[06:53] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: thats quiet allright.. thats how DHCP works
[06:53] <leagris> yggdrasil, you could experiment the live CD to try if it works.
[06:53] <linux_manju> FuriousRage: Thats what any dhcp client will do to discover the server
[06:53] <DanaG> About 1 to 1.5 years, but up until now I have been "spoiled" by using YaST.
[06:53] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=258 <--- there you go
[06:53] <yggdrasil> leagris. its fine im sure it will work ;)
[06:54] <urakaipa> hi there.. security.ubuntu.com is down?
[06:54] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: already tried the apci off method, still didnt work, and disk drive went disabled
[06:54] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: Nice! Have you ever made your own distro?
[06:54] <DJAdmiral> urakaipa: the ubuntu repository servers are all having some serious overload issues atm.
[06:54] <arto> Is there a way to convert debian .deb files to .deb files best suiting Ubuntu?
[06:54] <programcode> DJAdmiral does that allow you to get in Yahoo Chatrooms and use voice, that is what I am wanting to do?
[06:54] <urakaipa> thx DJAdmiral
[06:54] <XplOzIon> DJAdmiral, yeah, they pretty slow ATM
[06:55] <DJAdmiral> np urakaipa
[06:55] <dell> i have a problem, haver i update i get don't see my network no more, wireless.
[06:55] <arto> Is there a way to convert debian .deb files to .deb files best suiting Ubuntu?
[06:55] <DJAdmiral> programcode: Trillian? no not really.
[06:55] <programcode> Do you know of one?
[06:55] <programcode> for linux
[06:56] <DJAdmiral> programcode: i think basically you'll need to configure a sound recording device with your Java JRE.
[06:56] <dell> i have a problem, haver i update i get don't see my network no more, wireless. ......
[06:56] <mDot> kernal update broke compiz themer
[06:56] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: Nice! Have you ever made your own linux distro?
[06:56] <arto> DJAdmiral: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:56] <programcode> Okay well I got my sound working fine, I just can't find soemthing allowing me to get into yahoo chat rooms then get on voice.
[06:56] <DanaG> No.
[06:56] <PacketScan> yikes forgot about the language.   remebered :-D
[06:56] <dell> i need help...
[06:57] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: Oh, okay.
[06:57] <DJAdmiral> arto: checking link
[06:57] <dell> i using airlink101 awlc3025.
[06:57] <arto> DJAdmiral: mirrors = no overload.
[06:57] <SirGrok> Hello world.
[06:57] <arto> Is there a way to convert debian .deb files to .deb files best suiting Ubuntu?
[06:58] <DJAdmiral> arto: i use my own country's mirror: ae.archive.ubuntu
[06:58] <DanaG> I'm trying to find a Windows text editor that supports the Unix format of CR and/or LF ( I don't remember which).
[06:58] <arto> DJAdmiral: Then there shouldn't be overload ;) at least the official reposes..
[06:58] <finalbeta> Anyone using the sled menu and it's not resizing properly? Doesn't show all favorite apps
[06:58] <gnu2it2> how to set cron job to run midnight every other sunday?
[06:58] <DanaG> Also, I still haven't learned Vi/Vim yet.
[06:58] <finalbeta> DanaG, Textpad
[06:58] <DJAdmiral> arto: thanks for the link anywho, this is useful! :D
[06:58] <programcode> Hey does anyone know if there are skins for Ubuntu?
[06:58] <longwave> DanaG: textpad on windows supports multiple line ending formats
[06:59] <DanaG> Not free :(
[06:59] <finalbeta> it is
[06:59] <jan1024188> is there anybody who use knoppix from usb stick key
[06:59] <Keegan_Witt> programcode: like gnomelooks?
[06:59] <finalbeta> will just nagg a bit
[06:59] <dell> i need help...
[06:59] <dell> wireless...
[06:59] <dell> i have a problem, have i update, don't see my network no more, wireless. ......
[06:59] <SirGrok> I am trying to setup fluxbox to launch htop in Eterm from my menu, and I can't seem to configure it correctly. Could someone point out my error? " [exec]  (Htop) {Eterm -x -0 --trans --scrollbar=off --buttonbar 0 --geometry 110x75+13+5 -f white htop}"
[06:59] <longwave> DanaG: how about notepad2, i think it does that and it is GPL
[07:00] <DanaG> Oh, I found one.
[07:00] <wheels3572> Can someone tell me the command to upgrade my kernel.  also what's the name in the repos for xchat?
[07:00] <DanaG> "UniRed"
[07:00] <urakaipa> Could someone help me with this problem? I've got a msi mainboard (915) with an integrated sata controller. Everytime I reboot the computer, ubuntu shutdown the disks and at boot time I've to wait until the disks spin up again. There is no way to let the disks spinning if rebooting? Thanks in advance
[07:01] <Keegan_Witt> programcode: you can get themes, screensavers, backgrounds, etc here: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[07:01] <PacketScan> urakaipa, all osses do that.
[07:01] <DJAdmiral> programcode, Keegan_Witt: there's also art.gnome.org
[07:01] <DanaG> AArgh, it's Russian.
[07:01] <programcode> okay thx
[07:01] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: lol
[07:01] <programcode> okay thanks djadmiral
[07:02] <DJAdmiral> programcode: np
[07:02] <urakaipa> PacketScan, not true. I come from windows and at reboot it just let the disks spinning
[07:02] <venti> hi
[07:02] <PacketScan> urakaipa, not on my machines they don't..  i'm assuming scsi disks?
[07:02] <programcode> hey Djadmiral, which one is for skinning the desktop on the linux on that site
[07:03] <scena> Does anyone have a good HowTo on getting VNC to work on Dapper Drake
[07:03] <scena> I can get it to run at boot, but I get a greyed out X11 window
[07:03] <urakaipa> it's a sata controller, used as ide (because i discovered the fakeraid story)
[07:03] <arachnist> hi
[07:03] <venti> is there an alternative server to security.ubuntu.com? it seems to be unusually slow.
[07:03] <R4v3n> all have the problem with archive.ubuntu.com please ?
[07:03] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral: do you know where I can find the correct name for xchat to apt it?
[07:03] <wolfeySI> can somebody tell me how to add clamav to apt-get sources.list ?
[07:04] <wolfeySI> :P
[07:04] <arachnist> i just fired up kubuntu livecd 64bit on my new pc and it doesn't support sata controller on my nforce550 mobo, what can i do?
[07:04] <longwave> wheels3572: the package name is just "xchat", it is in universe
[07:04] <DJAdmiral> venti, R4v3n: ubuntu security repositories atm are overloaded
[07:04] <miry> OLA
[07:04] <R4v3n> DJAdmiral, OVER or down ? ^^
[07:04] <wheels3572> longwave: oh that's why I forgot to uncomment that lol
[07:05] <R4v3n> DJAdmiral, too download for new kernel right ?
[07:05] <DJAdmiral> R4v3n: nice one
[07:05] <venti> R4v3n: It works for me, you just need to wait
[07:05] <R4v3n> ok thx
[07:05] <arachnist> any ideas? this machine has 2GB of ram so i can make a big ramdisk and install gcc there and compile needed modules, but i want to avoid that
[07:05] <longwave> wolfeySI: clamav is in universe, you need to add that repository
[07:05] <FuriousRage> maybe my computer build is so unique that linux cant function on it ;>
[07:05] <wolfeySI>  deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[07:05] <wolfeySI> i have this:P
[07:05] <wheels3572> where can I find sources.list?
[07:06] <wolfeySI> wheels3572: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:06] <longwave> wheels3572: in /etc/apt
[07:06] <wheels3572> ty wolfeySI and longwave
[07:06] <longwave> wolfeySI: then you should be able to install clamav? though the breezy version is probably way out of date by now..
[07:06] <venti> wolfeySI: Have you tried to enable (take away the # before the line) in /etc/apt/sources.list for the universe and multiverse-repositories?
[07:06] <DJAdmiral> FuriousRage: I feel sorry for you, I really do.
[07:07] <scena> VNC help?
[07:07] <danf_1979> Someone want to test a software?  it setups a server
[07:07] <danf_1979> http://www.mundowebhosting.com/forums/forum.php?id=4&usebb_sid=b29edbe48d26094c65f4d0fac37c59f4
[07:07] <danf_1979> its for dapper
[07:07] <programcode> djadmiral, on that site for the themes, which link is for the desktop skin for ubuntu
[07:07] <DJAdmiral> danf_1979: what kind of server?
[07:07] <wolfeySI> i'll update now and show you the damned errors
[07:07] <venti> wolfeySI: after enabling those 2 repos, you can look for clamav with: apt-get update ; apt-cache search clamav
[07:07] <wolfeySI> btw can i upgrade to new ubuntu without reinstalling?
[07:07] <DJAdmiral> programcode: on art.gnome.org : you want to click on themes.
[07:07] <wolfeySI> i value the settings a lot
[07:07] <DJAdmiral> !update
[07:07] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:07] <danf_1979> DJAdmiral,  here is the description http://www.mundowebhosting.com/forums/topic.php?id=3
[07:08] <longwave> wolfeySI: yes, you can upgrade to dapper
[07:08] <longwave> !upgrade > wolfeySI
[07:08] <DJAdmiral> !update > wolfeySI
[07:08] <DJAdmiral> lol longwave
[07:08] <programcode> Djadmiral, sorry to keep bugging you but I am sort of new to linux, but which theme link there are many
[07:08] <unstablesob> are there mirrors for security updates? security.ubuntu.com is painfully slow
[07:08] <Nicb903> could someone help me (a noob) at installing ubuntu? im getting grub errors
[07:08] <DJAdmiral> programcode: no worries
[07:08] <longwave> unstablesob: there is no mirror for security, try again later if it is too busy now
[07:08] <RancidLM> hey are the ubuntu repo's down?
[07:08] <FuriousRage> maybe amd64 isnt supported in Ubuntu AMD64 install? ;>
[07:08] <DJAdmiral> Nicb903: i can help
[07:09] <longwave> RancidLM: some of them are overloaded right now
[07:09] <RancidLM> longwave: aight thnx!
[07:09] <programcode> Djadmiral, which themes one is for the whole desktop, not the logon screen
[07:09] <urakaipa> There isn't a place in ubuntu where select which hardware activate/deactivate? like for services?
[07:09] <DJAdmiral> programcode: one sec
[07:10] <wolfeySI> well it says i cant install clamav. that i can file a bug. and that clamav depends on ibclamav1 (>= 0.88.2), which wont be installed
[07:10] <wolfeySI> libclamav1
[07:10] <DJAdmiral> programcode: http://art.gnome.org/themes/
[07:10] <Nicb903>  im getting grub error 18, running amd64, one 80gig ide and one 70 gig sata drive
[07:10] <wolfeySI> and that it's "corrupt package"
[07:10] <DJAdmiral> Nicb904: can you give us the full description of the error?
[07:10] <programcode> DJAdmiral: Thanks
[07:10] <longwave> wolfeySI: you must have some other repositories enabled, because by default breezy's clamav only needs libclamav 0.87
[07:10] <DJAdmiral> programcode: no problem
[07:11] <RancidLM> hmm ironic.. im trying to get clamav as well
[07:11] <Keegan_Witt> programcode: any theme for gnome will work on ubuntu, themes are not distro specific
[07:11] <Nicb903> nope, i installed ubutu, booted up, and got grub: error 18
[07:11] <wolfeySI> longwave: i have multiverse and backports enabled
[07:11] <programcode> okay kool
[07:11] <wolfeySI> so basicly to upgrade i just change breezy to dapper and apt-get update; apt-get upgrade ?
[07:11] <programcode> How do I change screenresolution?
[07:12] <longwave> wolfeySI: it's not in multiverse, and 0.87.1 is in breezy-backports, so there's still something odd going on
[07:12] <longwave> wolfeySI: dist-upgrade instead of upgrade, but yes, basically
[07:12] <Frankenstein> hi, is there something wrong with the repostorie servers?
[07:12] <wolfeySI> longwave: this is production server, i already hate that email server doesnt work, cause i want the spam filter and clamav seems enabled too:P
[07:12] <danf_1979> DJAdmiral, Apache2 with mode_evasive, mod_security, mod_defalte, a chrooted openssh server, chrooted bind9, proftpd with some customization, mysql 5 with utf8 support, php5, webalizer, courier-pop3, courier-imap, postfix with smtp-auth and tls support, rootkits scanners rkhunter and chkrootkit, denyhosts 2.0,  and some other goodies
[07:13] <programcode> How do I change the screen resolution?
[07:13] <programcode> in ubuntu
[07:13] <DJAdmiral> programcode: System --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution
[07:13] <Frankenstein> !x
[07:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:13] <DJAdmiral> danf_1979: that is wicked, i just checked it out
[07:13] <DJAdmiral> Frankenstein: the ubuntu repository servers are currently overloaded atm
[07:13] <FuriousRage> im gonna give ubuntu a last try, this time testing the i386 one
[07:14] <Frankenstein> DJAdmiral, i thought so, wasnt sure... HAHA i guess ill try again later and lesson the load
[07:14] <Frankenstein> i get stuck at: 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[07:14] <wheels3572> How do I go about shutting down an instance of sources.list if one is already open and trying to be over written by another instance
[07:14] <DJAdmiral> Frankenstein: don't expect the load to be reduced any time soon. i'd rather just download all updates anyway.
[07:14] <Nicb903>  im getting grub error 18, running amd64, one 80gig ide and one 70 gig sata drive
[07:14] <Nicb903> what can i do to fix that
[07:14] <Frankenstein> DJAdmiral, i cant even get my pc to update off of them to upgrade... i keep getting errors
[07:15] <Frankenstein> Nicb903, use LILO!
[07:15] <Frankenstein> Nicb903, i had the same problem, go back into ubuntu install select go back and on the bottem of the list look for install lilo
[07:15] <Nicb903> they have that option?
[07:16] <Frankenstein> Nicb903, yep, when your in the install just select a go back option and it will bring up a menu, go to the bottem of that menu and look for install lilo, restart and it should work
[07:16] <fullmetalashaman> hi
[07:16] <fullmetalashaman> i was wondering how i update ubuntu to the latest version
[07:16] <DJAdmiral> Frankenstein: keep getting errors? that's probably because some packages failed to download. just go and re update, and those failed packages will continue where they failed.
[07:17] <Nicb903> ok let me try that out, ill be back to tell if it worked :)
[07:17] <DJAdmiral> !update > fullmetalashaman
[07:17] <DJAdmiral> !update
[07:17] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:17] <fullmetalashaman> hmm
[07:17] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral: how do I upgrade my kernel ?
[07:17] <Frankenstein> DJAdmiral, it all went smooth the 5th time i tried update :P now im trying to upgrade those packages... hopefully it works :(
[07:17] <stylesen> drake has xgl support right?
[07:18] <DJAdmiral> stylesen: depends on your video card
[07:18] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral: would that be the same but  earlier I was told 2 commands lol
[07:18] <DJAdmiral> stylesen: and your fglrx drivers.
[07:18] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: you want to upgrade it to the absolute latest?
[07:18] <stylesen> DJAdmiral: oh i have a good video card I suppose
[07:18] <wheels3572> I want to goto 2.6.15.26
[07:18] <wheels3572> from .23
[07:19] <stylesen> may i know will the new future release of ubuntu also supports xgl?
[07:19] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: i wouldn't recommend that. only go for the latest kernels that ubuntu completely support. otherwise it tends to go nuts
[07:19] <fiznut> The repositories down?
[07:19] <DJAdmiral> !xgl
[07:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:19] <DJAdmiral> !xgl > stylesen
[07:19] <DJAdmiral> there you go stylesen
[07:19] <Frankenstein> fiznut, as DJAdmiral poitned out, there overloaded... just keep running update till everything goes smooth
[07:19] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral: I have 2.6.15.26 on my destkop lol dont know how I got it lol
[07:19] <stylesen> Is there any licensing issue?
[07:19] <fiznut> Ah, k. Thanks broheim :] 
[07:19] <DJAdmiral> what Frankenstein said.
[07:19] <napster0ne> hello
[07:20] <napster0ne> i need help
[07:20] <napster0ne> please
[07:20] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: lol
[07:20] <Frankenstein> napster0ne, just ask
[07:20] <DJAdmiral> napster0ne: what's your problem?
[07:20] <napster0ne> well im new in linux
[07:20] <napster0ne> and i cant open windows
[07:20] <napster0ne> only linux
[07:20] <DJAdmiral> napster0ne: do you have a dualboot system?
[07:21] <napster0ne> i dont know whats dualboot sorry
[07:21] <Frankenstein> !dualboot
[07:21] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:21] <DJAdmiral> napster0ne: both windows and ubuntu installed on one machine.
[07:22] <DJAdmiral> Frankenstein: i think you need a makeover lol
[07:22] <Frankenstein> DJAdmiral, eh?
[07:22] <napster0ne> how i cand do that ?? first the windows?
[07:22] <farous> anyidea what might cause ubuntu to be slow especially when using the terminal? had this problem for quite a while eversince upgraded to dapper
[07:22] <thompa> are the repos. real slow or what?
[07:22] <mwe> when listing packages with dpkg -l, what does 'pi' mean a status?
[07:22] <Frankenstein> farous, run top and see whats bogging it down
[07:22] <Cornellius> Always install the evil OS first
[07:22] <BHSPitMonkey> repos are really slow for me right now, too
[07:22] <Cornellius> Because it overwrite the MBR
[07:22] <BHSPitMonkey> also, some stuff is being really buggy since I ran the update manager on my computers today
[07:22] <thompa> ok
[07:22] <DJAdmiral> thompa: the ubuntu repository servers are all overloaded atm
[07:22] <farous> Frankenstein: nothing is hogging the sys cpu is at 5% usage
[07:23] <BHSPitMonkey> like, ubuntu froze completely on my laptop just now
[07:23] <BHSPitMonkey> couldn't even kill X.
[07:23] <DJAdmiral> napster0ne: first install windows, then install ubuntu.
[07:23] <thompa> BHSPitMonkey: just wanted to be sure
[07:23] <DJAdmiral> BHSPitMonkey: ouch.
[07:23] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah
[07:23] <thompa> I had tried mepis earlier, it crashed so bad it was difficult to recover
[07:23] <napster0ne> ok
[07:24] <Frankenstein> oh great, im hearing about problems ever since people upgraded.... guess i cant stop the upgrades now lol
[07:24] <DJAdmiral> you know i find this really amazing. around this time last year i had first entered this chatroom asking noob questions
[07:24] <stylesen> Cornellius: windoze overwrites MBR it is possible to install grub and restore my ubuntu right?
[07:24] <DJAdmiral> and now i find people asking me questions.
[07:24] <BHSPit[Birfday] > who have you heard from besides me, Frankenstein ?
[07:24] <napster0ne> but i will loose everythin in windows no??
[07:24] <thompa> i think my crash was related to the k7 kernel, everything fine on ubuntu64
[07:24] <Frankenstein> BHSPit[Birfday] , a few others, bad memory confines me to myself im afraid
[07:24] <BHSPit[Birfday] > no, napster0ne
[07:25] <Cornellius> stylesen: Don't know, always installed XP first.
[07:25] <DJAdmiral> BHSPit[Birfday] : HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! :D
[07:25] <napster0ne> sure?
[07:25] <napster0ne> ok
[07:25] <stylesen> Cornellius: cool...
[07:25] <Frankenstein> hey DJAdmiral someone should put this link in the topic! http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:25] <BHSPit[Birfday] > Frankenstein, bad memory memory, or bad RAM :P
[07:25] <BHSPit[Birfday] > thanks, DJAdmiral :)
[07:25] <napster0ne> do you know how i can chat in spanish?
[07:26] <DJAdmiral> Can everybody please wish our birthday boy BHSPit[Birfday]  over here please?
[07:26] <scena> Has anyone gotten full VNC to work on Ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[07:26] <BHSPit[Birfday] > napster0ne, /join #ubuntu-es
[07:26] <napster0ne> thanx:D
[07:26] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral:  I have another issue that is alot more pressing though.  I was trying to edit the sources.list and lost it somehow and went to open it again and it says that there is one already open how do I get to that one that is already open
[07:26] <cdubya> man, anyone having troubles getting to the repos.....? I couldn't even get to them a sec ago and now I can, but it's wicked slow
[07:26] <stylesen> BHSPit[Birfday] : Many more happy returns of the day :)
[07:26] <DJAdmiral> Frankenstein: that is one wicked link lol
[07:27] <Nicb903> Frankenstein: where is this option to install lilo
[07:27] <napster0ne> thanx for all
[07:27] <napster0ne> bye
[07:27] <DJAdmiral> cdubya: the ubuntu repo servers are all overloaded atm
[07:27] <Frankenstein> DJAdmiral, it points out a lot of good things!
[07:27] <cdubya> DJAdmiral, kinda figgered that.....just wondering.....thanks
[07:27] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: try using kill?
[07:27] <flodine> can someone tell me why gnomebaker wont burn on ubuntu
[07:27] <DJAdmiral> cdubya: np
[07:27] <wheels3572> DJAdmiral: ok how lol
[07:27] <Frankenstein> Nicb903, i said... use your install cd, after a few prompts choose "go back" than look for install lilo
[07:27] <cdubya> flodine, works fine for me
[07:27] <FuriousRage> thats it, igot it, linux hates me! ;>
[07:27] <scena> Why is VNC server displaying a greyed out X11 window versus showing the desktop
[07:27] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: let's speak over pm
[07:27] <wheels3572> ok
[07:28] <Nicb903> im in the install cd right now, and installing, are you talking abuot the "back" button in the installer?
[07:28] <Frankenstein> alright, just to be safe im going to close all programs and let these updates do there thing :P
[07:28] <BHSPit[Birfday] > vnc viewer, you mean, scena ?
[07:28] <Frankenstein> Nicb903, yep
[07:28] <scena> No. VNC Server
[07:28] <dos000> howdy
[07:28] <Nicb903> i just dont see the option
[07:28] <scena> im trying to set up a print server that I can VNC to if i need to
[07:28] <arachnist> oh, sorry, stupid me
[07:28] <BHSPit[Birfday] > stylesen, thanks? lol I didn't quite register what you said to me correctly
[07:28] <Frankenstein> Nicb903, do you now see a list of options?
[07:28] <scena> i can get the service started but I cant get anything to display
[07:28] <arachnist> i tried to 'cfdisk /dev/hda', not /dev/sda ;>
[07:29] <scena> the Remote Desktop isnt a good answer cause it only works for the currently logged in user
[07:29] <dos000> i am a new developper in ubuntu ... anyone can share development ide for c/c++ ? anjuta sucks or i cant get it to work. i am on breezy btw
[07:29] <`Leah> hi
[07:29] <`Leah> i need help installing ubuntu alongside my current windows setup
[07:29] <munky> hi
[07:29] <scena> everything ive read says i need to enable XDCMP in the logon window, but there isnt even an option there
[07:30] <cdubya> dos000, I've used Code::Blocks
[07:30] <cdubya> dos000, and KDevelop
[07:30] <munky> 'Leah : stick the cd in and go...as simple as that
[07:30] <cdubya> depends on your flavor I guess
[07:30] <farous> dos000: did you try kdevelop?
[07:30] <`Leah> on the partioner it says, "resize IDE1 and use freed space to install ubuntu" does that mean it'l use the free space currently on IDE1 or would it delete some windows files to make space?
[07:30] <dos000> farous, not yet
[07:30] <farous> it is one of the best dos000
[07:30] <Frankenstein> ok folks, good luck DJAdmiral can you help Nicb903 with installing lilo as i have to go?
[07:30] <dreameen> hi
[07:30] <dos000> farous, can i just load a project in the debugger ?
[07:31] <munky> 'Leah : it will use the empty space. i personally recommend a manual resize and partition
[07:31] <FuriousRage> linux_manju: linux hates me, not even the i386 works ;>
[07:31] <Frankenstein> !lilo
[07:31] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[07:31] <dreameen> can ask an off topic questiion here?
[07:31] <farous> dos000: am not a develper sorry just occasion programmer
[07:31] <`Leah> on the partioner it says, "resize IDE1 and use freed space to install ubuntu" does that mean it'l use the free space currently on IDE1 or would it delete some windows files to make space?
[07:32] <munky> it will not delete files, it will use the room thats already free
[07:32] <cdubya> dos000, you'll likely have to create a new Kdevelop project, then import the files and build and debug.....
[07:32] <scena> ok i guess ill jsut live with REmote Desktop then & leave someone logged in
[07:32] <cdubya> dos000, I don't use Kdevelop....
[07:32] <cdubya> much anymore anyway
[07:32] <cdubya> but that's what I remember
[07:33] <munky> how do you apply a theme to root programs?
[07:33] <stylesen> does drake have gcc ?
[07:33] <stylesen> or we have to install it?
[07:33] <kamme> hello, I'm having some trouble setting up a vnc server with Ubuntu, I want to run one at bootup. Everything is configured, only I can't get it to start at bootup... Can anyone help me?
[07:33] <dos000> is something wrong with security.ubuntu ???
[07:33] <kamme> stylesen: try apt-get install build-essential
[07:33] <dos000> i am getting WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[07:33] <Nemesis> hello im trying to make  bootable pendrive with live ubuntu 5.10, but i have error 22  in fdisk partitions
[07:33] <RancidLM> dos000: from what i understand its overloaded at the moment and experancing problems
[07:34] <stylesen> kamme: thank you
[07:34] <kamme> stylesen: np
[07:35] <munky> how do you change theme for root so that the theme is the same for admin tools as it is for other programs (not ubuntulooks)
[07:35] <Nemesis> whay wen i try sav with W all fdisk changes i have warning error 22, also, when i reboot the system still have the old partition :(
[07:35] <Nemesis> when*
[07:36] <yggdrasil> is the repository no good anymore ?to archive.ubuntu.com:80
[07:36] <fullmetalashaman> here is the thing
[07:36] <fullmetalashaman> i am using 5.04
[07:37] <Saint551> Is security.ubuntu.com down?
[07:37] <fullmetalashaman> and i can't seem to upgrade
[07:37] <munky> hasn't support been dropped for hoary :-\
[07:37] <dribble> Saint551, I'd reckon so
[07:37] <fullmetalashaman> O_O
[07:37] <dribble> fullmetalashaman, i'm experiencing the same problem
[07:37] <Saint551> Ah, I thought I was the only one :/
[07:37] <DJAdmiral> Saint551: the ubuntu repository servers are currently overloaded
[07:37] <fullmetalashaman> bummer
[07:37] <DJAdmiral> !update
[07:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:37] <django_> Saint551, it just started again for me
[07:37] <django_> overloaded
[07:37] <munky> yeah, i amd oing an apt-get upgrade right now and its REALLY slow
[07:37] <dribble> yeap -- hoped the irc channel would have people talkin' about this
[07:38] <dribble> glad it ain't just me
[07:38] <DJAdmiral> !update > fullmetalashaman
[07:38] <django_> well, all just stop the updates
[07:38] <fullmetalashaman> so i can't upgrade?
[07:38] <django_> so I can :)
[07:38] <DJAdmiral> thankfully got all the updates i needed :)
[07:38] <dribble> fullmetalashaman, just wait a few minutes/hours
[07:38] <DJAdmiral> fullmetalashaman: you can upgrade
[07:38] <inv0lved> why can't I find any news on the 6.0.6 -> 6.0.6.1 update?
[07:38] <fullmetalashaman> oh
[07:38] <fullmetalashaman> okay thanks
[07:38] <fullmetalashaman> :-)
[07:38] <DJAdmiral> fullmetalashaman: upgrade to 5.10 first, then to 6.06
[07:38] <munky> fullmetalashaman just wiat till the middle of the night
[07:38] <dribble> fullmetalashaman, i'm sure the problem will be resolved relatively quickly
[07:39] <munky> also kinda recommended you install from cd a fresh setup....less things to break :)
[07:39] <fiznut> patience is the fix for this problem
[07:39] <yggdrasil> saint551 im getting the same thing
[07:39] <django_> it's all good from here atm ... update away
[07:40] <yggdrasil> yea must ajust kicked back on ?
[07:40] <yggdrasil> oh no i lie
[07:40] <axa-axa> Hi, I've installed ubuntu-6.06-i386 on my machine with amd64 3000+ processor. Which kernel should I install with synaptic since there is no linux-k8 should I install linux-k7 ?
[07:40] <Saint551> Thanks, it's good to hear I'm not the only one :)
[07:40] <FuriousRage> btw, why is ipv6 enabled default in ubuntu? iirc not many routers and isp's support ipv6..
[07:40] <Saint551> Later all.
[07:40] <regoahr> all:
[07:41] <dribble> FuriousRage, forward compatability
[07:41] <s_spiff> can someone tell me a good ftp client for dd 64bit arch?
[07:41] <Psychobudgie> ftp ;-P
[07:41] <regoahr> =)
[07:41] <gemeindebau> hello all. i installed ubuntu for a friend of mine on his machine. it's working fine but - without any warning or necessarily any action by my friend - the computers starts buzzing (like one long sound, no breaks) which gets louder and louder. Now i wonder, could this be caused by hardware incompatibility?
[07:42] <nikin> hy
[07:42] <inv0lved> why can't I find any news on the 6.0.6 -> 6.0.6.1 update?
[07:42] <django_> gemeindebau, lol check with another OS .. but i'd say not
[07:42] <s_spiff> !ftp
[07:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:42] <nikin> how can i sare my printer an one of my folders with samba?
[07:42] <ManiacKY> !irc
[07:42] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:42] <yggdrasil> gameindebau sound like his microphone is turned on.. and its feeding back ?
[07:43] <regoahr> ping
[07:43] <nikin> why is irssi not listed?
[07:43] <ManiacKY> Or BitchX
[07:43] <django_> more irssi since it is in the default install
[07:43] <FuriousRage> and mirc! ;>
[07:43] <ManiacKY> FuriousRage That was the first app I used Wine with ;)
[07:43] <nikin> django_ yup thats why i mentioned it
[07:43] <cbx33> is there a gui fo mencoder?
[07:43] <nikin> and its my fav btw
[07:44] <gemeindebau> django_: ok, he had wxp installed before, but there was no problem there. we *did* change the power supply as well that day, he got himself a phantom 500W fanless, but i cannot find any reference to such a problem caused by the psu. and no, it is not feedback of the microphone. first thing was i asked him to disconnect anything he doesn't need.
[07:44] <django_> nikin, yeah, I was with you ... even if other weren't ;)
[07:44] <nikin> cbx: Acid rip can use it
[07:44] <ryan> i need help with using my wireless card
[07:44] <FuriousRage> is nForce incompatible with ubuntu?
[07:44] <nikin> so anyone can help me with sharing stuff with samba?
[07:45] <ManiacKY> Wow Ubuntu really can do everything. Now can I get to mow my yard? .. "Simpson Doh!"
[07:45] <spec> ManiacKY: yes...yes you can
[07:45] <FuriousRage> ManiacKY: not everything, it cant handle my onboard nic! ;>
[07:45] <ManiacKY> apt-get install johndeer
[07:45] <nikin> Maniacky: it just depends on hardware :D
[07:45] <ManiacKY> ;)
[07:45] <leagris> is there some place to get Blender 2.4.2 and Yafray 0.9 for Dapper? Debien package won't install due to required newer glibc.
[07:45] <django_> nikin, i might .. what's the problem?
[07:46] <nikin> leagris: Blender is in the repos
[07:46] <FuriousRage> ManiacKY: btw, you can buy an automatic lawn mower, you just put out a few pins/cables around and it mows the lawn inside that area ;>
[07:46] <nikin> Furius: how is your ip going?
[07:46] <spec> !info blender
[07:46] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4734 kB, installed size 12588 kB
[07:47] <leagris> nikin, 2.4.1 and yef 0.8 only in repos but I'd like to play with the newer Blender 2.4.2 and required Yafray 0.9
[07:47] <FuriousRage> nikin: its not, not evne i386 works
[07:47] <rodelrod> Hi there. I installed Ubuntu server and xubuntu-desktop for the rare occasions where the desktop might be handy. I then used sysv-rc-conf to prevent gdm to load at runlevel 2, so that it boots at console by default. Problem is, i still get a gnome splash page during bootup which wouldn't be too serious. Thing is, it messes up the console when the boot is finished and I have to change tty to login. Any idea on how to get rid of that
[07:47] <rodelrod>  splash boot screen?
[07:47] <ManiacKY> FuriousRage Kool. I'd prefer one thats connected to a Large RC Car setup. Like the remote used in Back to the Future to drive the time machine. THat was awesome.
[07:47] <spec> !info blender edgy
[07:47] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 4797 kB, installed size 12744 kB
[07:47] <Nicb903> Can someone hlep me, im getting grub error 18, thinking of switching to lilo, dont know how i would go about doing this
[07:47] <spec> Nicb903: you're getting an error on grub so instead of fixing it you want to switch to lilo?
[07:47] <django_> nikin, well lay that samba problem on me, pappy
[07:47] <nikin> rodellod: did you try runlevel 3?
[07:47] <DanaG> nForce is incompatible with my "religion"
[07:48] <DanaG> er, at least I DON'T LIKE IT!
[07:48] <ManiacKY> DanaG Oh you are a AMD man? ;) j/k
[07:48] <nikin> django_ i mostyl need a tool for it...
[07:48] <DJAdmiral> Lilo. I'd stay away from it.
[07:48] <farous> anyidea what might cause ubuntu to be slow especially when using the terminal? had this problem for quite a while eversince upgraded to dapper. Nothing hogging the sys though and cpu is at 5% usage
[07:48] <nikin> but i cant find one
[07:48] <django_> nikin, nah, no tools. samba is usually pretty easy to configure
[07:48] <Krpano> there is one way to disable the window minimization effect ?
[07:48] <DJAdmiral> farous: I dunno, my system is working just fine
[07:48] <Nicb903> well, then could somone walk me through how to fix my grub?
[07:48] <spec> Nicb903: how big is your harddrive, and where is /boot located?
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> farous: maybe you want to shift to xubuntu?
[07:49] <[Yoni] > Hi all
[07:49] <Nicb903> i dont have a /boot
[07:49] <rodelrod> nikin: no, do you think that might change anything?
[07:49] <spec> Nicb903: yes you do
[07:49] <Nicb903> 80gig
[07:49] <nikin> Krapo use JWM ;) sorry just a joke
[07:49] <Krpano> :)
[07:49] <[Yoni] > Hi all, I ordered the new ubuntu in cd's
[07:49] <Nicb903> spec, would you mind walking me through how to change it
[07:49] <spec> Nicb903: -L10024:localhost:5432 postgres
[07:49] <spec> errr, crap
[07:49] <[Yoni] > 'till I'll get the cd's where from can I download Ubuntu 6?
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> [Yoni] : yes?
[07:49] <spec> -L10024:localhost:5432 postgres
[07:49] <spec> wtf
[07:49] <farous> thanx DJAdmiral i once heared a daemon (sound related) might cause this prob do not know though which one
[07:49] <nikin> rodel rod: i never tried runlevel 2. but runlevel 3 allways booted fine with just text mode
[07:50] <[Yoni] > I want to test it
[07:50] <spec> stupid paste
[07:50] <DJAdmiral> [Yoni] : you can get it from www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:50] <DJAdmiral> [Yoni] : you want me to guide you through the process?
[07:50] <DanaG> I want to make GDM only start in runlevel 5.  How do I do that?
[07:50] <spec> Nicb903: read this: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[07:50] <DJAdmiral> np farous
[07:50] <nikin> !iso
[07:50] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:50] <spec> DanaG: man update-rc.d
[07:50] <ManiacKY> Is there a way I can get ubuntu to list all the USB hard drives connected to a system even if they arn't currenlty mounted?
[07:50] <farous> i am booting now from debian for ubuntu is just too slow on my sys. would like to fix my prob so i can use ubuntu again
[07:50] <[Yoni] > I got to that page, altough i dont know whitch type of installion should I download?
[07:50] <nikin> Yoni: is that info enough?
[07:50] <spec> ManiacKY: maybe lsusb
[07:51] <nikin> Yoni: it depend on you
[07:51] <django_> ManiacKY, you could grep /var/log/messages
[07:51] <thompa> does anyone know how to uninstall the realplayer bin?
[07:51] <django_> write a small script
[07:51] <nikin> what do you want to do with it?
[07:51] <jackinthebox> anybody: what is the best server program to run on ubuntu?
[07:51] <spec> jackinthebox: what type of server....
[07:51] <django_> best server program? lol
[07:51] <sirjohn> ok - i am using a linux live cd so i can backup data on a messed up windows install - how do i make the hdd readable ?
[07:51] <spec> I guess the absolute best is mpd :p
[07:51] <django_> haha
[07:51] <Nicb903> spec, i know what the error means, im very new to linux though, and im not exactly sure how to do what i need to do
[07:52] <[Yoni] > I want to download the X, & the os ofcourse :)
[07:52] <ManiacKY> spec: Just listed my busses no devices
[07:52] <jackinthebox> i just want to display all of my files and be able to download them or let people download them, nothing special
[07:52] <nikin> djdango: best server program is i think grep, what should we do without it?
[07:52] <[Yoni] > I just bought a new h.d
[07:52] <django_> as long as the 'server program' isn't telnet
[07:52] <nikin> $;)
[07:52] <farous> thompa: how did you install realplayer. normailly sudo apt-get uninstall realplay will do
[07:52] <spec> Nicb903: did it always do this error after you installed it or what?
[07:52] <DJAdmiral> [Yoni] : my advice? download and burn the alternate cd.
[07:52] <nikin> !realplayer
[07:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <spec> Nicb903: or was it working, and now all of a sudden does this error?
[07:52] <ManiacKY> django_ Um. its blank. would I need to unplug and replug the hard drive in at this point?
[07:53] <Nicb903> no, i did a first time install last night, and got that error
[07:53] <spec> Nicb903: ok
[07:53] <[Yoni] > DJAdmiral, does it inc. X & openoffice & all of those?
[07:53] <axa-axa> Hi, I've installed ubuntu-6.06-i386 on my machine with amd64 3000+ processor. Which kernel should I install with synaptic since there is no linux-k8 should I install linux-k7 ?
[07:53] <jackinthebox> spec: Grep?
[07:53] <django_> ManiacKY, i wouldn't be unplugging any hard drives ... do you mean your usb drive?
[07:53] <jackinthebox> spec: is that anything like apache 2?
[07:53] <spec> Nicb903: you need to install ubuntu again, but this time manually make the first partition 100M, and name it as the /boot partition
[07:53] <gemeindebau> ok, i have decided :-) that the problem is power supply related, so we'll change that one back to the working one. thanks
[07:53] <nikin> !grep
[07:53] <gemeindebau> bye
[07:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:53] <spec> jackinthebox: no
[07:53] <ManiacKY> django_ Yes usb hard drives
[07:53] <django_> jackinthebox, um, grep wouldn't be classed as a server program
[07:53] <thompa> farous: i installed from the realone.com web site binary using ./
[07:53] <ManiacKY> django_ that arn't mounted
[07:54] <django_> ManiacKY, do it, then look at /var/log/messages
[07:54] <nikin> djdango: ok,ok then not.
[07:54] <thompa> farous: i was trying to see if it worked with 64 bit, it dont
[07:54] <django_> to see if anything appears
[07:54] <farous> thompa: did you install it on your home drive or did you use sudo
[07:54] <thompa> farous: im going to install firfox32 version and try again, but i need to remove it somehow
[07:54] <jackinthebox> spec: well i need to kno what the best server program is that works like apache 2
[07:54] <spec> jackinthebox: apache2
[07:54] <django_> jackinthebox, dude, you have to know what kind of server you want to run; web, mail, dhcp, ssh, IRC etc etc
[07:54] <ManiacKY> django_ Nothing
[07:54] <Nicb903> spec, using the installers gparted, how would i create a smaller partition that is before my main one
[07:55] <django_> jackinthebox, ah web server ... apache
[07:55] <jackinthebox> django: ssh
[07:55] <thompa> farous: sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[07:55] <spec> Nicb903: i don't know, i partition everything by hand ... someone else here will be able to help you with gparted
[07:55] <django_> jackinthebox, ssh use the inbuilt sshd
[07:55] <spec> !gparted
[07:55] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:55] <spec> like the docs
[07:55] <thompa> farous: do i have to search for all its locations and just delete stuff?
[07:55] <Nicb903> i have gparted, but if i resize my main parition, it goes after it, not before it
[07:56] <farous> thompa: that is really bad for this way there is no way you can track where they were installed. look under /usr/bin and /usr/lib for realplay and remove them manually
[07:56] <thompa> farous: i know,
[07:56] <bartist> hello
[07:56] <thompa> farous: i also need to remoive any configuration file, so i can get 64 bit working
[07:56] <bartist> do you know what is the purpose of the local tab in gtkpod?
[07:56] <farous> thompa: yah
[07:57] <pwnedomina> my version off xchat is 0.11 , how can i update them to a recent one ?
[07:57] <thompa> farous: i think the helix folks should have an answer
[07:57] <acojlo> is there something like defrag for linux?
[07:57] <farous> yap that is a good idea
[07:57] <farous> goodluck thompa
[07:57] <django_> lol, man this channel can be amusing
[07:57] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: sudo apt-get update? :P
[07:57] <thompa> thanks
[07:57] <pwnedomina> thanks
[07:58] <DJAdmiral> acoljo: there is, it automatically runs every few times your computer boots up. don't worry.
[07:58] <pwnedomina> im a noob
[07:58] <pwnedomina> lo
[07:58] <pwnedomina> l
[07:58] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: np lol
[07:58] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: im here if you need help!
[07:58] <acojlo> I have problems with fetching updates from main repository - 3 of 46 updates could not be downloaded
[07:58] <django_> acojlo, check out google on fsck one time
[07:58] <django_> acojlo, that'll give you an idea
[07:58] <DJAdmiral> acojlo: try downloading updates again
[07:59] <flodine> updates down
[07:59] <longwave> acojlo: some repositories are down or very slow today, try again later or tomorrow
[07:59] <pwnedomina> DJ , but i only want to update xchat , not other tools !
[07:59] <acojlo> thanks people, I understand :) when it check system every 30 times of boot it do many good things :)
[07:59] <flodine> ok this ant suse is it
[07:59] <mikearthur> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/55079
[07:59] <mikearthur> Can all Kopete users please view this bug, and see if you can reproduce
[07:59] <flodine> remind me of yast
[07:59] <django_> acojlo, yep, just don't run that puppy on a mounted fs
[07:59] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: then i suppose you could use this command: sudo apt-get xchat
[07:59] <flodine> repositories solw
[07:59] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: it will automatically get the latest version
[07:59] <DanaG> Well, how do you fsck your boot drive?
[08:00] <django_> everyone stop hammering the repositories
[08:00] <abhinay> i tried, sudo apt-get install gnome-art , saying   WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ?
[08:00] <DJAdmiral> django_: lol
[08:00] <Krpano> if i make a new install in another PC.....can i move all my configs to the new instalation ?
[08:00] <acojlo> I was reading about slow redrawing in gnome and possible cause of this problem with xml parser. Can this be solved? I experience slaw redraw of gnome
[08:00] <django_> DanaG, many ways, including rescue disks, and single user mode
[08:00] <Nicb903> the 100mb /boot partition, should it be primary or logical
[08:00] <DJAdmiral> abhinay: no need to worry about that, just go ahead and install it :)
[08:01] <django_> DanaG, just don't run it on a mounted fs, i'm telling you :)
[08:01] <django_> acojlo, yes, the xml parser could be re-written
[08:01] <pwnedomina> dj
[08:01] <pwnedomina> xchat-gnome - a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client
[08:01] <pwnedomina> xchat - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
[08:01] <pwnedomina> xchat-common - Common files for X-Chat
[08:01] <pwnedomina> xchat-systray - xchat systray notification icon
[08:01] <django_> acojlo, and i wish someone would soon
[08:01] <django_> pwnedomina, get the straight xchat
[08:01] <acojlo> django_, so everyone is experiencing slow redraw?
[08:01] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: get the middle two packages.
[08:01] <Nicb903> the 100mb /boot partition, should it be primary or logical
[08:02] <pwnedomina> um using xchat-gnome , too old .. version 0.11
[08:02] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: the middle two packages ought to be fine, unless you want the fourth one as well
[08:02] <pwnedomina> im installing , thanks dj
[08:02] <django_> acojlo, i uninstall gnome and immediatly install xfce4 because of slow redraw in gnome and kde
[08:02] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: no problemo pwnedomina
[08:02] <k31th> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m43596-1.png wat is the program they have used on the left for system stats ?
[08:02] <rodelrod> nikin: runlevel3 didn't do the trick
[08:03] <pwnedomina> django , blackbox is better
[08:03] <Nicb903> spec
[08:03] <Nicb903> the 100mb /boot partition, should it be primary or logical
[08:03] <django_> pwnedomina, actually fluxbox is better, which is what i use on my FreeBSD boxes :)
[08:03] <acojlo> django_, my kde was fast, but I do not like kde. I like gnome much but this problem is bad
[08:03] <django_> acojlo, sorry, can't help
[08:03] <pwnedomina> hehhe , freebsd is nice
[08:03] <pwnedomina> :D
[08:04] <DJAdmiral> pwnedomina: i hate the freebsd daemon
[08:04] <pwnedomina> why?
[08:04] <abhinay> i have a problem with playing streaming audio online,  i was trying to play songs from http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/top10.asp   , its not playing .... ? any suggestions ??
[08:04] <django_> i use freebsd for my server, openbsd for the firewall, ubuntu on the desktop and windows for games
[08:04] <django_> i have no opinion on the freebsd daemon though
[08:05] <django_> :)
[08:05] <DJAdmiral> somebody sold shirts of the freebsd daemon and tux, well, erm, re-enacting scenes from Charles and Carlotto.
[08:05] <abhinay> i have real player installed ....
[08:05] <django_> DJAdmiral, hehe yeah, the same one as on linuxisforbitches . com
[08:05] <DJAdmiral> django_: that is one serious set up you have there.
[08:06] <DJAdmiral> abhinay i'll get to your problem in a moment
[08:06] <django_> DJAdmiral, lol not really, used to be worse with the Cisco and Sun machines
[08:06] <pwnedomina> what country are you from ?
[08:06] <pwnedomina> american or england?
[08:06] <DJAdmiral> me?
[08:06] <pwnedomina> im from portugal
[08:06] <pwnedomina> yes
[08:06] <django_> i'm australian
[08:06] <DJAdmiral> im canadian.
[08:06] <pwnedomina> hmm
[08:06] <django_> i used to be canadian :)
[08:06] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:06] <DJAdmiral> i love ozzieland though
[08:07] <DJAdmiral> oops sorry
[08:07] <SurfnKid> I will never be canadian
[08:07] <pwnedomina> at this time , there is snow on canada ?
[08:07] <SurfnKid> but then again ompaul is right, off topic!
[08:07] <ompaul> pwnedomina, being offtopic
[08:07] <pwnedomina> ?
[08:07] <ompaul> go to the channel where people talk offtopic please #ubuntu-offtopic this is strictly a support channel
[08:07] <DJAdmiral> this channel is meant for ubuntu discussions
[08:08] <DJAdmiral> about the ubuntu operating system
[08:08] <pwnedomina> ou ... sorry
[08:08] <ompaul> DJAdmiral, even worse than that - support :)
[08:08] <pwnedomina> sorry
[08:08] <django_> and i'm looking to support!
[08:08] <DJAdmiral> np pwnedomina, you didn't know :)
[08:08] <DJAdmiral> darn straight ompaul! :P
[08:08] <django_> but it kinda hurts to answer 'which is the best server program?' ;)
[08:08] <farous> ompaul: any idea what might cause ubuntu to be redicul slow in a terminal though nothing is hogging the sys?
[08:08] <DJAdmiral> btw is the word "damn" allowed here?
[08:08] <ompaul> farous, ssh into it?
[08:09] <farous> ompaul: nope
[08:09] <DJAdmiral> !language > DJAdmiral
[08:09] <ompaul> farous, spec of the box
[08:09] <farous> ompaul: it is gnome-terminal on my regular ubuntu box
[08:09] <ompaul> farous, what are you running in it?
[08:09] <farous> ompaul: t42 1.8ghz centrino
[08:10] <ompaul> farous, what are you running in the terminal to say "it is slow"
[08:10] <DJAdmiral> is the word "damn" allowed in this channel?
[08:10] <farous> ompaul: irssi even top it is just strangely slow
[08:10] <pwnedomina> does anyone here install nessus?
[08:10] <django_> farous, check the TERM settings
[08:10] <acojlo> django_ : you know what? It seems that cpufreq_conservative is all the time loaded on my system - so gnome must be slow :)
[08:10] <jerusalem420> guys
[08:10] <django_> pwnedomina, yes
[08:10] <jerusalem420> my screen resolution wont change
[08:10] <DJAdmiral> django_: i checked out linuxisfor*******.com but it's blocked by my isp. i'll use tor and privoxy to get past it
[08:10] <jerusalem420> the system thinks it changed
[08:10] <pwnedomina> i cant put them to work
[08:10] <jerusalem420> but it hasnt
[08:10] <ompaul> DJAdmiral, one would prefer if you didn't, as I explained yesterday ;-) if there is a moving line in the sand where is the line today - if there is a brick wall it is easy to see the boundry
[08:10] <django_> acojlo, heh, just when i hoped you would stop using gnome :)
[08:10] <jerusalem420> anyone seen this?
[08:11] <farous> django_: what exactly in the setting should i look for
[08:11] <acojlo> how to set default cpufreq governor ?
[08:11] <django_> farous, see if your terminal type is the right one, or change it
[08:11] <farous> acojlo: man powernowd
[08:11] <wheels3572> Ok I have 1 question where am I to put multiverse to open up few repos that aren't open
[08:11] <django_> farous, sorry i'm using mrxvt so i can't check out the gnome-terminal settings
[08:11] <gene> Hi guys & gals, haveing a samba setup problem any samba guru's here?
[08:11] <ompaul> farous, perhaps it is just lag from your to the server - try running top or  sudo lshw to see if it works fast
[08:12] <DJAdmiral> ompaul: okay then, i'll try not to use that word whenever possible.
[08:12] <Krpano> jerusalem420, add the desired resolution direct to the xorg.con, and config the monitor frequencies correctly.
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > wheels3572
[08:12] <farous> ompaul: will check that out thanx
[08:12] <DJAdmiral> ompaul: thanks for pointing me in the right direction, much appreciated :)
[08:12] <Krpano> conf*
[08:12] <jerusalem420> but i haven't changed anything
[08:12] <jerusalem420> it was working
[08:12] <ompaul> !resolution > jerusalem420
[08:13] <ompaul> jerusalem420, have a look at the message from the channel bot, ubotu cheers
[08:13] <pwnedomina> django
[08:13] <pwnedomina> nessusClient (a GUI for nessusd) on http://www.nessus.org/download/ website :S
[08:13] <pwnedomina> there is no nessusClient (a GUI for nessusd) on http://www.nessus.org/download/ website :S
[08:13] <pwnedomina> for ubuntu
[08:14] <django_> pwnedomina, you should be able to install it via the package manager, no?
[08:14] <dxdemetriou> Are the repositories have problem now?
[08:14] <wheels3572> TheGateKeeper: ty but it doesn't say exactly how to manually edit and where to put the multiverse :)
[08:14] <pwnedomina> no
[08:14] <gene> repeat, need samba guru
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: usually at the end of the line
[08:14] <pwnedomina> there is no package for ubuntu
[08:14] <django_> pwnedomina, if i was you, at your skill level, i would try to get the package installed
[08:14] <django_> pwnedomina, find a repository with the package
[08:15] <wheels3572> TheGateKeeper: newbie sort of here :) question iswhich lline that is my problem lol
[08:15] <django_> pwnedomina, problem is, lots of things get installed when you install nessus. If you want to remove them all later, best not to install the source
[08:15] <wheels3572> I know it's either 4 or 6 line I have to edit
[08:15] <wolfeySI> :))
[08:15] <pwnedomina> django , there is no no GUI for nessusd on ubuntu :S
[08:15] <django_> pwnedomina, heh ok told
[08:15] <jerusalem420> thankls ompaul
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: this will give you everything you want but PLF repos need to be modified: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:16] <wheels3572> ty Gate
[08:16] <django_> pwnedomina, well the gui has to be somewhere ... luckily in FreeBSD i just type 'make install clean' in the nessus port folder ;)
[08:16] <trappist> pwnedomina: the 'nessus' package is the gui client
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: does that help?
[08:16] <trappist> pwnedomina: apt-cache show nessus
[08:16] <django_> pwnedomina, try installing it and see if they are all there
[08:16] <Sargun> Where can I find some good Pro-Linux propaganda?
[08:16] <pwnedomina> nessus is diferent from nessud !
[08:16] <ompaul> Sargun, read the ubuntu website
[08:17] <avalente> was there an update today? from 6.06 to 6.06.1?
[08:17] <wheels3572> I am checking now lol
[08:17] <trappist> pwnedomina: nessus is the client. nessusd is the server.
[08:17] <django_> you can run the nessus client from any other machine, the nessusd needs to be installed on a linux box
[08:17] <shawnr_> whats the command to check ubuntu ver?
[08:17] <django_> just get the daemon installed pwnedomina
[08:17] <pwnedomina> ok trappist
[08:17] <pwnedomina> d > daemon?
[08:17] <trappist> exactly
[08:17] <django_> pwnedomina, sorry nessusd
[08:17] <trappist> err
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: when you come back I will tell you how to correct the PLF repos
[08:17] <django_> the server
[08:17] <trappist> d == daemon
[08:17] <shawnr_> whats the command to check ubuntu ver?
[08:18] <bartist> hello
[08:18] <django_> shawnr_, uh, uname -a ?
[08:18] <acojlo> so, where is powenowd told to use userspace and where is userspace set ? can't find reference in man
[08:18] <bartist> are some of you having problem with the sounds of video in youtube or dailymotion?
[08:18] <farous> acojlo: you are using it by default
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> shawnr_: cat /proc/version
[08:18] <avalente> was there an update today? from 6.06 to 6.06.1? hello? I can't find any news on this... my issue.net changed to Ubuntu LTS 6.06.1..
[08:18] <pwnedomina>  It is made up of two parts: a server, and a client. The server/daemon,
[08:18] <pwnedomina>  nessusd, is in charge of the attacks, whereas the client, nessus,
[08:18] <pwnedomina>  provides the user a nice X11/GTK+ interface
[08:18] <pwnedomina> :D
[08:18] <pwnedomina> ok
[08:19] <farous> acojlo: to check it type lsmod |grep cpu_userspace
[08:19] <django_> well, the uname -a has a certain class ;)
[08:19] <acojlo> farous, yes but even when I'm on AC power it uses userspace which set conservative model - so it decreases responsivnes of the system. MOdule is loaded but why?
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> django_: depends which version info he is on about :-)
[08:19] <django_> cat-ting files ...ew
[08:20] <django_> TheGateKeeper, he needs to know if it is XP ubuntu or Ubuntu 98
[08:20] <django_> ;)
[08:20] <bartist> can you see videos from youtube correctly?
[08:20] <acojlo> farous, there are 4 modules, but only userspace is used (has 1)
[08:20] <farous> acojlo: you can change it am running here powersave so can not remember the exact command i think you need to set it to 1
[08:20] <bartist> i've trouble with the sound of the videos...
[08:21] <acojlo> well, I can not find something like Klaptop inside of gnome to set to performance
[08:21] <shawnr_> ok im cofused about what kernel i have/need. I'm uname says im using this... 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT. but i don't remember installing k7-smp, just k7. it also says 686. am i using the right kernel? i have amd64 3700+ in laptop
[08:21] <DJAdmiral> !restricted
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <farous> acojlo: ah you need to set the powernowd to use the aggressive setting while you are on AC and conservative when you are on battery. you have to write a script for  that
[08:21] <cowmilk2> i'm on xubuntu. i installed ekiga so that i can make some VOIP/SIP calls, but it installed stuff i'm not interested in, such as evolution, gnome-pilot. Can i delete them?
[08:22] <acojlo> faours, can I do that with laptop.mode. will it work while on AC during boot?
[08:22] <farous> acojlo: gnome-power-manager?
[08:23] <maddler> is anyone experiencing problems connecting to security.ubuntu.com?
[08:24] <tibbe> I'm on Dapper but want to use a particular package from Edgy (emacs-snapshot), how could I achive that?
[08:24] <TheGateKeeper> maddler: sounds like there may be a few repo problems from what I have heard
[08:24] <django_> maddler, yeah
[08:24] <maddler> TheGateKeeper: oh... ok...
[08:25] <acojlo> farous, it's here but not giving me control over cpufreq model
[08:25] <thompa> removing real player manually seems it is faster to just reinstall ubuntu
[08:25] <Howitzer> Does anybody know how to draw conky below gnome-panel?
[08:26] <nikin> i need sum help with samba.... i sucessfully shared my folder but i cant login from the windows maschine
[08:26] <srikat> lol thompa
[08:26] <farous> acojlo: yah you have to do that manually for the cpufreq using the powernowd
[08:26] <shawnr_> ok im cofused about what kernel i have/need. uname says im using this... 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT. but i don't remember installing k7-smp, just k7. it also says 686. am i using the right kernel? i have amd64 3700+ in laptop
[08:26] <django_> nikin, simple sharing?
[08:26] <Howitzer> because the uname -a is blocked by it...
[08:26] <sirjohn> yay for having a server working :p
[08:26] <thompa> i want to remove realplayer, t, there is a realplayer dir in /home but permission is denied, so i have to go into each dirctory,
[08:26] <django_> nikin, and you can login from the linux box? did a 'testparm' and used smbclient to log in?
[08:26] <thompa> srikat: is there another way to remove it
[08:27] <trappist> thompa: use sudo
[08:27] <trappist> thompa: as in sudo rm -rf
[08:27] <thompa> ia m
[08:27] <thompa> i am
[08:27] <nikin> dj: no i didnt
[08:27] <thompa> ok
[08:27] <nikin> what should i do?
[08:27] <thompa> thanks
[08:27] <acojlo> where is gconf for power management?
[08:27] <django_> nikin, first run "testparm" in a terminal window
[08:28] <django_> nikin, any simple errors will show up there
[08:28] <thompa> trappist: that did it, i tried -f alone and it would not work
[08:28] <yggdrasil> how do i disable the bad repository that i have in my apt list ?
[08:28] <shawnr_> yggdrasil, add a "#" at the beginning of the line
[08:29] <shawnr_> yggdrasil, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <yggdrasil> hmm..
[08:29] <django_> nikin, then use smbclient and try to access the shares in linux from the terminal
[08:29] <nikin> i have got WARNING: passdb expand explicit = yes is deprecated
[08:29] <yggdrasil> yea i know that much i cant tell wich one it is
[08:29] <shawnr_> yggdrasil, the apt-get update
[08:29] <thompa> trappist: would you happen to know where the realplayer config file might be hiding, i installed the bin, and there is no info
[08:29] <RES> can anyone help me
[08:29] <RES> i want to "share" a cd/dvd drive
[08:29] <shawnr_> yggdrasil, run sudo apt-get update it you will see what connects and what does
[08:29] <shawnr_> doesn't*
[08:29] <django_> nikin, that is ok. Did you set up samba with any guide?
[08:29] <Ye-Olde-Device> Have anyone in here had any luck getting a non-beta version of Azureus to run under Dapper?
[08:29] <yggdrasil> 82.211.81.182)]                                                             82.211.81.182)]          its going now but it stalling for  a sec and ill get it after its timed out iguesse
[08:29] <shawnr_> yggdrasil, sry "sudo apt-get update"
[08:29] <farous> tibbe: have a look at this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: you sorted yet?
[08:30] <django_> nikin, and do you have smbclient installed. I should check, i'm doing this from memory
[08:30] <RES> anyone?\
[08:30] <yggdrasil> ok guys actualy it looks like it took just was super slow
[08:30] <farous> tibbe: that is for debian but you can use same idea in ubuntu
[08:30] <shawnr_> Can anyone help me with my kernel question?
[08:30] <nikin> nope i could acces windows networks without doing anything
[08:30] <EnsignRedshirt> longwave: ping?
[08:30] <tibbe> farous, thanks
[08:30] <nikin> samba was setupped by the sharing system when i checked "share with samba"
[08:31] <django_> nikin, then it may be a firewall issue?
[08:31] <django_> or you can ping
[08:31] <thompa> does anyone know to get realplayer working for 64 version, do i install firefox 32 or is there another way
[08:31] <yggdrasil> thanks for the help guys
[08:31] <dxdemetriou> Does anybody know why the internal disk partitions are disappeared from Nautilus, but the external showed normally? On live cd and fresh install works, but not after new updates
[08:31] <thompa> the 32 bit version wont work and i cant listen to any bbc radio stations
[08:32] <shawnr_> anyone know their kernels and can maybe give me a hand?
[08:32] <nikin> django: i just cant login, it does not accept login and passwd
[08:32] <qlash> Hello, I have some really weird problem, could I get some help?
[08:32] <Ye-Olde-Device> Everybody who enjoys a working alpha installation of azureus under dapper raise your hands please ... I'm trying to find out whether or not my struggle to find a solution should continue
[08:32] <django_> nikin, you aren't doing simple sharing then, if it is requiring password
[08:32] <Ye-Olde-Device> qlash, what kind of problem?
[08:32] <EnsignRedshirt> longwave: Ignore my previous ping.  I found the answer to what I was going to ask you.
[08:32] <RES> anyone?  i want to share a cd drive
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> thompa: does this answer your question? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:32] <django_> shawnr_, what's the problem?
[08:33] <shawnr_> django_, ok im cofused about what kernel i have/need. uname says im using this... 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT. but i don't remember installing k7-smp, just k7. it also says 686. am i using the right kernel? i have amd64 3700+ in laptop
[08:33] <nikin> django: guest ok =yes
[08:33] <thompa> TheGateKeeper: thanks thats it
[08:34] <qlash> Well I was gonna transfer a whole catalog of files via ftp "World of Warcraft", and it kept cancelling transfer some files with Could not change local directory to /home/maan84/Games/World of Warcraft/Data: Permission denied, so I ran sudo gftp and tried to transfer whole catalog again, then it worked, and I have 5gb less hd space, but if I go to home folder and right click the folder it says it takes up 12mb and wine cant acces it :P
[08:34] <django_> shawnr_, the SMP part is ok, don't worry .. i'll have to take a look at the kernels available .. i'm an ubuntu newbie, just not a *nix one ;)
[08:34] <thompa> helix and real player suck, if they cant give you uninstall instructions.
[08:34] <thompa> there is no uninstall info, which means they are crooks
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> thompa: yw :-) my standard answer to 64bit problems :-) someone installed 32 mplayer all his codec started working, made him happy too
[08:35] <thompa> now i still have to find if there is a config file somewhere from the bin
[08:35] <qlash> all files in the subfolders of that catalog takes 0 bytes, but it transferred 5 gb and hd has 5gb less :P
[08:35] <nikin> django: do you know maybe any site with info about howto set up samba shares on ubuntu?
[08:35] <django_> shawnr_, but i'd be sure there is an amd64 kernel
[08:35] <thompa> TheGateKeeper: thats nice, but bbc uses embedded real streaming
[08:35] <nikin> samba
[08:35] <EnsignRedshirt> What does FTBS stand for?  It shows up in a bug report in launchpad.
[08:35] <django_> nikin, just google for a good samba tutorial, that should help
[08:35] <dxdemetriou> Nobody have problem with the appearance of ide disks with Nautilus on Places/Computer?
[08:36] <qlash> if I do sudo gftp and look at the catalogs from there all the files in the subfolders take up "the right size" , like a screenshot in the screenshot map takes up 4 mb, but in filebrowser its 0 bytes
[08:36] <thompa> TheGateKeeper: mplayer wont work on any of their 50+ radio stations
[08:36] <nikin> django ok
[08:36] <django_> shawnr_, cause the K7 kernel ain't gonna cut it lol
[08:36] <thompa> dont use k7
[08:36] <shawnr_> i thought k7 was for amd?
[08:36] <eighty4> nikin, setting up samba shares in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#head-51f51bea37ef002e8c6d7dbfeeb486a47cdb0f88
[08:36] <michaeljb2006> oops the forums are down
[08:37] <thompa> im running amd64 dou core, i use tjhe ubuntu 64 version, performance is much better
[08:37] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> thompa: yes the only reason I ever installed realplayer, this I find a usefull addon to: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[08:37] <greenwom> lo,  Kino only works for capture as root, hot do I fix it?
[08:37] <shawnr_> thompa, but what about all the programs only availible for 32bit?
[08:37] <acojlo> ok, I have to create /etc/default/powernowd
[08:37] <Cha> hey there. would anyone have some input as to how to set up a good mail server on ubuntu? id like it to be something like "webmaster@myserver.com"
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> thompa: never understood BBC logic for picking realplayer
[08:37] <thompa> shawnr_: k7 is for k8 athlon amd yes,
[08:38] <thompa> shawnr_: try k7 see if it works, you can boot with both
[08:38] <qlash> So anyone know why files in filebrowser take 0 bytes, but when i look in them from gftp running sudo gftp they all take up the right size?
[08:38] <shawnr_> thompa, i have k7
[08:38] <django_> shawnr_, that's what he's using
[08:38] <DJAdmiral> !mail
[08:38] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[08:38] <shawnr_> lol im confused
[08:38] <ltR20^^> does anyone know how to extract a rar in the current directory with files + subfolders
[08:38] <django_> shawnr_, no harm in trying the amd64 one
[08:38] <DJAdmiral> !mailserver
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about mailserver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:38] <thompa> shawnr_: sry, whats the prob
[08:38] <michaeljb2006> what's the hack out there to smooth fonts?
[08:38] <DJAdmiral> !server
[08:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFaq/
[08:38] <django_> shawnr_, just install it. what bootloader are you using?
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone?  FTBS=?
[08:38] <acojlo> TheGateKeeper, Some logics and reasons have not grown on a ground
[08:39] <shawnr_> django_, grub
[08:39] <farous> ltR20^^: man unrar
[08:39] <shawnr_> django_, i don't need to install ubuntu64? i can just install the kernel?
[08:39] <qlash> I would ask at the forums but they seem to be down
[08:39] <django_> shawnr_, install the amd64 kernel image then and see if it boots it. if not, just boot from the other kernel
[08:39] <django_> shawnr_, grub will handle it
[08:39] <farous> ltR20^^: i normally use unrar e <filename>
[08:39] <thompa> TheGateKeeper: how can realone.com offer a linux installer, no uninstall instructions,
[08:40] <gregg__> amd64 kernel + x86 userland won't work!
[08:40] <greenwom> !kino
[08:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about kino - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:40] <DJAdmiral> !info kino
[08:40] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In repository main, is extra. Version 0.80-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1071 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[08:40] <ltR20^^> farous, it places all the files in the samedir
[08:40] <DJAdmiral> there you go
[08:40] <ltR20^^> no subdirectories
[08:40] <farous> thompa: realplayer is in one of the repos
[08:40] <farous> !easysource > thompa
[08:40] <greenwom> ok so how do I get it to capture with out root!!
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> thompa: if you use the deb method to install you should be able to uninstall
[08:40] <thompa> farous: i know but im running 64 bit ubuntu
[08:40] <django_> gregg__, bingo
[08:41] <farous> ltR20^^: did not need it so just use the man my friend to get the proper option set
[08:41] <django_> hence the K7 i guess
[08:41] <shawnr_> django_, don't see 64bit kernel in the synaptic
[08:41] <bthornton> When I bring up my DHCP-configured WiFi connection on my laptop, it gets an IP like it's supposed to, but /etc/resolv.conf is left empty (i.e. it's not setting the nameservers with DHCP like it's supposed to).  Any ideas how to fix this?
[08:41] <thompa> TheGateKeeper: im going to use that page you sent me, should work
[08:41] <farous> thompa: you can run it in a chroot env. till proper support is ava
[08:41] <thompa> thanks again
[08:41] <thompa> right on
[08:41] <farous> but i guess you know that
[08:41] <thompa> cheers
[08:42] <django_> shawnr_, in short, if you are happy don't change, if you want the amd64 kernel you'll need the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[08:42] <django_> shawnr_, like gregg__  said, you'll need the amd64 userland too
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> thompa:
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[08:42] <jeandelfrigo> high does anyone know if the drivers for ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 are available yet?
[08:42] <tiagoguimaraes> pessoal pelo amor de deus
[08:42] <thompa> i had on k7 kernel boot up to login 41 secs, on ubuntu64 its now 29 secs
[08:42] <srikat> shawnr_: you are deciding between 32-bit and 64-bit Ubuntu?
[08:42] <tiagoguimaraes> por favor!!!
[08:43] <django_> thompa, that would convince me :)
[08:43] <tiagoguimaraes> quem  me ajuda com mouse no ubuntu??
[08:43] <shawnr_> django_, ok but my original question... is the kernel im currently using ok? 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT  i686 GNU/Linux
[08:43] <tiagoguimaraes> mouse of ubuntu???
[08:43] <shawnr_> srikat, im thinking about it
[08:43] <django_> shawnr_, if it is booting, sure it's ok
[08:43] <shawnr_> er lol
[08:43] <tiagoguimaraes> mouse serial???
[08:43] <shawnr_> performace wise
[08:43] <thompa> also all the windows and things open better in 64
[08:43] <django_> shawnr_, but you might want to listen to the ppl here who know about the 32 vs 64 bit versions
[08:43] <django_> I would like to hear anyway
[08:44] <srikat> shawnr_: hang on, I'll give you a forum post that can help you make the decision
[08:44] <tiagoguimaraes> tem brasileiro na area?
[08:44] <thompa> only flash and real player are some trouble in 64
[08:44] <tiagoguimaraes> nao consigo colocar o mouse!!!
[08:44] <tiagoguimaraes> alguem me ajude por favor!!!
[08:44] <yggdrasil> how do i check what version of glibc i have installed ?
[08:44] <qlash> I took a screenshot that easy explains what it is I don't understand, could anyone look and tell me what I can do about it? http://www.qlash.net/images/Screenshot.png
[08:44] <DJAdmiral> tiagoguimaraes: join #ubuntu-br
[08:44] <django_> thompa, so no other problems?
[08:44] <qlash> Same file marked
[08:44] <acojlo> can someone send me /etc/default/powernowd
[08:44] <seamore> How to unrar rar3.0 files?
[08:44] <farous> thompa: how about oepnoffice and firefox for i am thinking of getting one
[08:45] <thompa> TheGateKeeper: but thats the 386 version right
[08:45] <srikat> shawnr_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226858
[08:45] <thompa> bzflag wont work either
[08:45] <django_> basically, if I had a 64 bit machine, i'd at least *try* the 64 bit version
[08:45] <yggdrasil> how do i check what version of glibc i have installed ?
[08:45] <DJAdmiral> seamore: you need to install extra archive formats for that, i installed the rar format using easyubuntu
[08:45] <DJAdmiral> !easyubuntu
[08:45] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:45] <thompa> good look compiling bzflag from source
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> thompa: correct, but isn't that what you need despite being 64bit?
[08:46] <thompa> ok
[08:46] <DJAdmiral> bzflag lol
[08:46] <jeandelfrigo> high does anyone know if the drivers for ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 are available yet?
[08:46] <srikat> shawnr_: the gist of that forum post is that: if you are new to Ubuntu/Linux (and don't want to try to make things work) go for 32-bit; otherwise go for 64-bit
[08:46] <thompa> openooficce seems to run fine if not better in 64
[08:47] <FuriousRage> WTB nForce 4 support in Ubuntu AMD64 version
[08:47] <tiagoguimaraes> o pessoal ses nao vao me ajuda!?!?1
[08:47] <shawnr_> srikat, i've been working for a few months with ubuntu32-bit. finally got jsut about everything working
[08:48] <django_> shawnr_, time to go for the 64 bit then!
[08:48] <thompa> shawnr_: if you have time and patience, test one then the other
[08:48] <wheels3572> After I have edited my sources.list there is another command or 2 I am supposed two I am supposed to type what are they
[08:48] <thompa> shawnr_: go for 64
[08:48] <shawnr_> is there a benchmark for cpu and general os use? so i can test now then test on 64?
[08:48] <django_> then you compare, you know, you tell others on here later
[08:48] <thompa> shawnr_: there are instructions for getting flash and real working on 64
[08:49] <neilc> does anyone know if i can get a CD image of ubuntu drake + subsequent security updates?
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: tells you on the bottom of that how to I sent you but first you need to fix your PLF repos
[08:49] <di||itante> doen anyone know of a usb bluetooth adaptor that works with Ubuntu? I need a way to connect to my phone/pda for internet access
[08:49] <neilc> as installing a new system and then getting ~200mb of updates is getting a bit old
[08:49] <qlash> Could anyone look here http://www.qlash.net/images/Screenshot.png and tell my it's like that?
[08:49] <thompa> shawnr_: i took notes on everything, firs installed 32 with 386 , 686, k7 kernels,
[08:49] <troytroy> wow these linuxcbt trainings are very resourceful
[08:50] <qlash> why*
[08:50] <django_> neilc, couldn't you download and burn the updates onto an install cd?
[08:50] <FuriousRage> is it possible to start ubuntu live cd with ipv6 disabled?
[08:50] <shawnr_> thompa, then you went to 64?
[08:50] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: have a look at the correction I have put on this page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[08:50] <thompa> shawnr_: also i use a stopwatch
[08:50] <jockey23> what things do not work on 64bit?
[08:50] <Krhis> Flash :P
[08:50] <thompa> shawnr_: k7 was messed up on my machine, bu that was on mepis also
[08:50] <django_> shawnr_, most of the time the best benchmarking is just by using it. You know how fast your system is now
[08:50] <Krhis> More codecs would be nice.
[08:51] <thompa> shawnr_: it seemed slugish
[08:51] <neilc> django_: sure, i can
[08:51] <Krhis> jockey23, plan on using 64bit?
[08:51] <neilc> django_: i was just wondering if there's a prebuilt 6.06+fixes cd image
[08:51] <neilc> django_: as that would save me some trouble
[08:51] <TheGateKeeper> jockey23: to have to install some 32 bit apps as not everything has moved to 64 bit, eg flash, codecs etc
[08:51] <jockey23> yes... I'm thinking of switching
[08:51] <shawnr_> thompa, and how was it when you went to 64bit?
[08:51] <django_> neilc, seems like a lot to maintain ... but maybe someone did it for the lazy ppl like you ;)
[08:52] <thompa> you can watch dvds listen to music in 64 no problem
[08:52] <django_> neilc, but i know what you mean, i do that with windows, linux, fbsd everytime i install and it's a pain
[08:52] <neilc> django_: heh, well, if drake is gonna be supported for ~3 years, that is going to add up to a *lot* of post-install updates
[08:52] <Krhis> thompa, I've had some problems with decoding some DVD's.
[08:52] <TheGateKeeper> jockey23: you want this then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:52] <DJAdmiral> alright people
[08:52] <DJAdmiral> i gtg
[08:52] <tiagoguimaraes> cade o pessoal do brasil!?
[08:52] <thompa> shawnr_: boot time faster, openoffice time faster,
[08:52] <tiagoguimaraes> y from brazil!
[08:52] <tiagoguimaraes> hi peoples!
[08:52] <FuriousRage> maybe i resize my hdd back and give my windows xp install 100% of the hdd since linux refuses to work on my box
[08:52] <DJAdmiral> tiagoguimaraes: join #ubunu-br!!!
[08:52] <Krhis> thompa, and music is music. If they are OGG's is shouldn't matter. :P
[08:53] <DJAdmiral> tiagoguimaraes: join #ubuntu-br
[08:53] <shawnr_> thompa, noticable?
[08:53] <django_> FuriousRage, that's one solution
[08:53] <narr> does anyone know how to remove a user from a group using the console?
[08:53] <thompa> shawnr_: i can have like 10 things running and notice no decrease in performance
[08:53] <Krhis> FuriousRage, threat?
[08:53] <shawnr_> huh
[08:53] <jockey23> TheGateKeeper, thanx
[08:53] <tiagoguimaraes> help my ubuntu, is not mouse!
[08:53] <django_> narr deluser
[08:53] <shawnr_> thom. maybe i will try the live cd ;)
[08:53] <DJAdmiral> tiagoguimaraes: i can help you!
[08:53] <DJAdmiral> tiagoguimaraes: Listen carefully!
[08:53] <shawnr_> thompa. maybe i will try the live cd ;)
[08:53] <tiagoguimaraes> please read for my #ubuntu-br!
[08:53] <jockey23> TheGateKeeper, What about wine... will that still work?
[08:54] <bobbyd_> can anyone help me install speakup under ubuntu?
[08:54] <thompa> shawnr_: its slow for me until i installed it
[08:54] <FuriousRage> Krhis: threat/promisse, linux doesnt work anyway ;>
[08:54] <narr> django_ deluser. i thought it would delete the user ;)
[08:54] <DJAdmiral> tiagoguimaraes: type this: /join #ubuntu-br
[08:54] <narr> got to read the manpages, thx
[08:54] <django_> narr doh sorry, didn't read
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> jockey23: yw :-) don't know may be the same
[08:54] <Krhis> FuriousRage, Linux works just fine.
[08:54] <django_> narr, don't deluser!
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> jockey23: suck it and see :-)
[08:54] <narr> django_ ak k^^
[08:54] <Krhis> FuriousRage, it's you're computer that's having the problem. What's the issue?
[08:55] <django_> narr, i would edit /etc/group myself
[08:55] <shawnr_> thompa, what about xgl/compiz... work under 64-bit?
[08:55] <FuriousRage> Krhis;: well, cant get ip in linux ;> <-- the very very short story
[08:55] <narr> django_ thx
[08:55] <django_> narr, because i'm not familiar with ubuntu's grapical tools yet
[08:55] <tiagoguimaraes> tenk yu head!
[08:55] <thompa> shawnr_: i dont know yet about that
[08:55] <DJAdmiral> np
[08:55] <django_> narr, sorry about that, almost cost you your user
[08:55] <django_> ;)
[08:55] <narr> django_ np ;)
[08:55] <Krhis> FuriousRage, did someone try to help you already?
[08:55] <easterducky> HELP HELP HELP: I have to be in court in 1 hour and postscript printer (Lexmark Optra S 1885) is not working under KDE even though the driver is listed!
[08:56] <thompa> shawnr_: go to the 64 help pages
[08:56] <FuriousRage> Krhis: i lost count after 5ppl or something ;>
[08:56] <narr> django_ the /etc/group tip is what i was searching for :)
[08:56] <Nuked> get this error when dist-upgrading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19618
[08:56] <tiagoguimaraes> valeu cabea!
[08:56] <Krhis> FuriousRage, what NIC do you have?
[08:56] <shawnr_> thompa, but it IS possible to get flash/java working?
[08:56] <django_> narr, cool
[08:56] <tiagoguimaraes> os pampas agradecem!!!
[08:56] <Nuked> !pt
[08:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:56] <srikat> shawnr_: in Firefox?
[08:56] <FuriousRage> Krhis: onboard, nForce 4 (410 MCP)
[08:56] <thompa> shawnr_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:56] <crazy_penguin> is security updates down?
[08:57] <jockey23> TheGateKeeper, I'm just scared I have to go back... since Ive started using linux I'm not used to Format that often :)
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> shawnr_: another customer :-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:57] <thompa> ive been too lazy to do that yet
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> crazy_penguin: the ubuntu repository servers are overloaded at the moment
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> i see
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> ok
[08:57] <crazy_penguin> thx
[08:57] <estupendocero> Where are log files kept? There doesn't seem to be a /var/adm
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> np
[08:57] <thompa> whatever you do dont install realplayer from realone.com on 64
[08:57] <AAA> estupendocero  /var/log
[08:57] <django_> shawnr_, heh if i can get flash and java going on freebsd , you can do it on ubuntu64 ;)
[08:57] <estupendocero> thank you AAA
[08:57] <thompa> there is a 64 bit version of realplayer coming out soon
[08:58] <dD0T> DJAdmiral: They are still unresponsive...omfg ;) Hoped it would run again up to now! There's a kernel update to install :)
[08:58] <Krhis> FuriousRage, checkout Forcedeth yet?
[08:58] <FuriousRage> Krhis: dunno what that is
[08:58] <Nuked> get this error when dist-upgrading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19618 any help would be appreciated.
[08:58] <DJAdmiral> dD0t: erm... have we met?
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> jockey23: back everything up first: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[08:58] <jgarbers> hi - am new to ubuntu - recently allowed installation of a kernel update. Grub menu now shows both 2.6.15-23 and 2.6.15-26... 2.6.15-26 is default, but fails to boot, reporting "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data" followed by "invalid compressed format" and a kernel panic...
[08:58] <django_> dD0T, i'm in the same place
[08:58] <dD0T> DJAdmiral: no, now we've met^^
[08:58] <acojlo> the issue of slow redrawing of gnome windows was caused by powernowd use of conservative method
[08:59] <django_> dD0T, and it's buggin' me
[08:59] <jgarbers> can i fix something so 2.6.15-26 works, or do i need to change grub menu to default to 2.6.15-23?
[08:59] <jockey23> TheGateKeeper, but the important apps should work fine so I think I'll give it a try
[08:59] <django_> acojlo, good now?
[08:59] <harisund> Anyone know how to disable graying of the screen when the gksudo dialog box pops up?
[08:59] <dD0T> django: Hm....lol! As i tried last only security.ubuntu.com was down! Now the whole sys again! lol lol lol
[08:59] <DJAdmiral> dD0T: oh okay, cool. who introduced you to me?
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> jockey23: good luck :-)
[08:59] <Nuked> get this error when dist-upgrading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19618 PLEASE help
[09:00] <django_> oh no, i feel pasting coming on ....
[09:00] <shawnr_> thompa, ok one last question. I do alot of audio recording. i kinda have this set up like a home studio. If im going to switch to 64.. Audacity NEEDS to work.
[09:00] <acojlo> django_, yes, it's working reasonably fast - means I can not notice time lag with redrawing windows
[09:00] <magical> if I unplug the monitor on my ubuntu box whilst it's turned on, will it cause any problems?
[09:00] <DJAdmiral> dD0T: oh wait, i realised you were talking about the repositories comment i made! oops sorry lol
[09:00] <dD0T> DJAdmiral: Nobody ;) Just saw you writing about the servers beeing down when I rejoined! But anyway: Hi, I'm .D0T or in IRC dD0T
[09:00] <django_> acojlo, for fun one time apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and see if you notice much difference
[09:00] <DJAdmiral> dD0T: nice to meet you! we better not go offtopic though.
[09:01] <acojlo> django_, right now I do not know how to tell powernowd to use no cpufreq scaling while on AC power through /etc/default/powernowd, so I've unloaded p4_clockmod module and powernowd
[09:01] <programcode> Hey DJAdmiral what do you use to watch videos on linux, like mpeg and avi?
[09:01] <cart> Hi, im trying to use evdev driver un xorg.conf on dapper, but don't work at all, my keyboard don't work and i keep getting "LookupDeviceIntRec id=0x0 not found" in the console... (Starting the X by ssh)...
[09:01] <django_> magical, nope
[09:01] <edju> join #ibm
[09:01] <dD0T> DJAdmiral: Think so too. Anyone got a clue what's wrong this time? Can't really believe it's the load! I mean they are running day and night...
[09:01] <django_> acojlo, that'll work ;)
[09:01] <DJAdmiral> programcode: MPlayer, and Totem
[09:02] <magical> django_, thanks :)
[09:02] <tiagoguimaraes> viva o linux!!
[09:02] <django_> programcode, mplayer rocks .. ogle is good for dvd playback esp. on slower machines
[09:02] <Dysk> This is a dumb question, but what is the debian/ubuntu equivalent of the service command?
[09:02] <DJAdmiral> viva o linux!
[09:02] <shawnr_> thomp, ok one last question. I do alot of audio recording. i kinda have this set up like a home studio. If im going to switch to 64.. Audacity NEEDS to work.
[09:02] <programcode> DJAdmiral: could you help me, I can't get MPlayer to install. I found the file and I extracted it. I was going to install it with ./mplayer, but there isn't an install file in there can you help me with installing it?
[09:02] <AAA> mplayer uber alles
[09:02] <Dysk> (What command manually starts and stops services?)
[09:02] <AAA> Dysk  init
[09:02] <DJAdmiral> programcode: did you install it from the ubuntu repos?
[09:03] <django_> shawnr_, hmm another reason i have to use windows :(
[09:03] <BHSPit[Birfday] > service <name> start
[09:03] <acojlo> it feels good :)
[09:03] <programcode> repos?
[09:03] <DJAdmiral> programcode: repositories
[09:03] <programcode> no is that in there?
[09:03] <bruder> anyone knows the program to assign arbitrary global hotkeys to arbitrary actions?
[09:03] <shawnr_> django_, why? audacity works great for me under ubuntu 32
[09:03] <DJAdmiral> programcode: yep
[09:03] <Ch4neKe> im having problems updating some nautilus packages, 404 not found, it's something wrong with the servers maybe ?
[09:03] <Nuked> get this error when dist-upgrading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19618 PLEASE someone help
[09:03] <BHSPit[Birfday] > e.g. "service sshd start/restart/stop"
[09:03] <django_> shawnr_, i will give it a try
[09:03] <BHSPit[Birfday] > @dysk
[09:03] <AAA>  /etc/init.d/<service> restart|stop|start
[09:04] <DJAdmiral> programcode: whenever searching for or downloading or installing software, ALWAYS check first if it is in the ubuntu repositories!
[09:04] <wheels3572> TheGateKeeper: I dont even see a PLF repo in my sources.list
[09:04] <jgarbers> i'm finding some threads about the failed upgrade process - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/31126 - how can I repair this upgrade?
[09:04] <programcode> okay I found it downloading and install it now thanks DJAdmiral
[09:04] <BHSPit[Birfday] > Dysk, ignore what I said.
[09:05] <nikin> i ame back
[09:05] <budluva> anyone got america's army 2.6 windows client to run under wine/cedega?
[09:05] <nikin> filesharing is working well
[09:05] <Ademan> where should i go to find out about the intel GMA 950(integrated graphics)? is it capable at all? are there linux drivers for it? or would it just be dead weight on linux?
[09:05] <BHSPit[Birfday] > I'm still thinking in an older distro
[09:05] <nikin> but printer has a problem
[09:05] <BHSPit[Birfday] > budluva, don't they release a linux client? or is that just the server
[09:05] <Ch4neKe> jgarbers, im having problems too
[09:05] <Dysk> DHSPit:  the service {service} start/stop/restart is what I was talking about.   I've used it in every other distro but don't see it in ubuntu
[09:05] <django_> nikin, at least the filesharing works :)
[09:05] <budluva> BHSPit[Birfday] : as far as i know 2.5 linux client is and will be the last
[09:05] <jgarbers> Ch4neKe: like mine?
[09:06] <nikin> when i try to print on the windows maschine it says "pronter server is down"
[09:06] <Dysk> AAA: Sure I could do that, but I was wondering if there's a shortcut like there is in most other *nixes
[09:06] <django_> nikin, testparm say anything about the printer?
[09:06] <budluva> 2.7 for windows is coming soon, but dont know if it works well in wine
[09:06] <AAA> Dysk  that is a redhat thing,
[09:06] <Ch4neKe> jgarbers, with nautilus
[09:06] <DJAdmiral> alrighty guys
[09:06] <BHSPit[Birfday] > ah
[09:06] <Dysk> AAA: Fair enough
[09:06] <DJAdmiral> i really gtg now
[09:06] <django_> Dysk, how much shorter you want it?
[09:06] <FuriousRage> Krhis: know any dist thats similar to ubuntu, that works with nForce 410, and no named fedora core, suse, redhat, mandrake? ;>
[09:06] <DJAdmiral> fun talking with you all
[09:06] <mDot> my desktop is unbearably ugly right now
[09:06] <AAA> Dysk  you can manipulate your startup scripts with :: update-rc.d
[09:06] <DJAdmiral> BHSPit[Birfday] : happy birthday once again
[09:06] <mDot> need compiz fixed!
[09:06] <jgarbers> Ch4neKe: sorry, no help from me, unless you're talking about a submarine...
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> django_: fun talking, nice to meet you
[09:07] <TheGateKeeper> wheels3572: put it in pastebin please
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> django_: but i gtg now. cya!
[09:07] <AAA> Dysk  you restart services with /etc/init.d/<service>
[09:07] <Ch4neKe> lol
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: i gtg
[09:07] <django_> Dysk, most other *nixes do it similarly ... /etc/rc.d/<service> restart|start etc in fbsd for instance
[09:07] <django_> DJAdmiral, ciao
[09:07] <Nuked> AAA: get this error when dist-upgrading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19618
[09:07] <Dysk> AAA: Great, things
[09:07] <Dysk> thanks
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> wheels3572: nice meeting you
[09:07] <insites> is it possible to forward the sound output of one linux box to another linux box?
[09:07] <BHSPit[Birfday] > thanks, DJAdmiral
[09:07] <insites> like you would forward X windows with Y
[09:07] <django_> insites, yeah baby, sound servers
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> alrighty guys, ciao! cya all tomorrow!
[09:07] <AAA> insites  yes, jackd
[09:08] <django_> insites, but i won't be helping set that up :)
[09:08] <tiagoguimaraes> valeu galaera de nao sei da onde!!!
[09:08] <insites> AAA jackd huh ill lookinto it thanks.
[09:08] <wheels3572> later DJ
[09:08] <wheels3572> Later DJ
[09:09] <AAA> Nuked  did you update your sources.list and then apt-get update?  were you using unofficial pkg's prior to upgrading?
[09:09] <django_> |_ater DJ?
[09:09] <django_> and if you did update , how the hell did you get connected?
[09:09] <Ch4neKe> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!: bittornado <-- it's dangerous if i download this?
[09:10] <Nuked> AAA not prior to upgrading
[09:10] <Ch4neKe> why is giving me that error ?
[09:10] <django_> Ch4neKe, not if you like huge winds
[09:10] <django_> Ch4neKe, it is not dangerous per se
[09:10] <jgarbers> how can I force a reinstallation of the 2.6.15-26 kernel?
[09:10] <django_> Ch4neKe, just means it is not ubuntu authenticated
[09:10] <FuriousRage> anyone wanna donate me an PICe nic 100mbit ? ;>
[09:10] <jgarbers> it appears to have not fully downloaded, as the initrd file is less than 1/3 the size of the -23 file
[09:11] <Ch4neKe> django_, but its supposed to be oficially supported
[09:11] <wheels3572> Sorry django_ I was telling the other DJ goodbye but missed him lol and it hit you lol
[09:11] <voraistos> hey guys. i wanna compile my kernel for a pentium M, and i want to compile it "the ubuntu way". know any good HowTo ?
[09:11] <django_> Ch4neKe, supported and authenticated are different
[09:11] <Ch4neKe> ok
[09:11] <crimsun> voraistos: just use the -686 flavour.
[09:11] <django_> Ch4neKe, i would personally install it
[09:11] <voraistos> nope
[09:11] <Ch4neKe> django_, ty :)
[09:12] <voraistos> crimsun: i dont want general 686 support
[09:12] <AAA> Nuked  but after? you may want to remove that pkg and try apt-get dist-upgrade again.  I don't know that will solve your problem though.  You may also want to try dpkg-reconfigure <pkg name> and see iff you get more errors/clues
[09:12] <django_> Ch4neKe, if you are cautious, like to the point of tin-foil hats, maybe you won't want to ;)
[09:12] <Nuked> AAA it wont allow me to
[09:13] <lordlamer> hello. i have made a debian package. how can i migrate that package to ubuntu?
[09:13] <bthornton> How do I turn off directory listings in Apache (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS)?
[09:13] <django_> bthornton, google it, it's a common faq
[09:13] <django_> bthornton, one keystroke of vi :)
[09:14] <gnomefreak> lordlamer: join #ubuntu-motu and ask
[09:14] <bthornton> django_: Did it.  I already put an ".htaccess" file in the parent directory containing "Options -Indexes" but still no worky.
[09:14] <AAA> Nuked  it won't let you remove it?  what is the version of libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 ?
[09:14] <wheels3572> django_: I manually edited my sources.list now dont I Have to update them too ?
[09:14] <nikin> ok printer is working ... just shit ccpd deamon fucked
[09:14] <django_> django_, you got me again :)
[09:14] <bthornton> django_: I also tried adding a similar directive to the main configuration file in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf but to no avail.
[09:14] <Nuked> AAA:libavahi-compat-libdnssd1_0.6.10-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:14] <Nuked>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdns_sd.so.1', which is also in package bonjour
[09:14] <django_> bthornton, and you restarted apache etc?
[09:15] <nikin> django_ so i found a good tutorial
[09:15] <bthornton> django_: yup--/etc/init.d/apache reload, correct?
[09:15] <django_> nikin, good stuff, easy huh?
[09:15] <TheGateKeeper> lordlamer: there is info on the ubuntu wiki site, not exactly sure where
[09:15] <django_> bthornton, yeppers
[09:15] <bthornton> I tried "/etc/init.d/apache restart" just for fun (overkill), but it didn't do any differently
[09:15] <nikin> and where can i set a users defoult chmod params?
[09:15] <lordlamer> thansen: i will check
[09:15] <AAA> Nuked  do you use bonjour?  _maybe_ apt-get remove bonjour and dpkg --purge bonjour then try your dist-upgrade?
[09:16] <wheels3572> AAA: I have manually edited my sources.list file now do I have to update it or something?
[09:16] <django_> bthornton,can't help, i just use the Index Option
[09:16] <insites> eSounD seems to be the best option for streaming sound between two linux boxes...
[09:16] <medfly> dont you guys call 6.06 dapper? i heard someone calling it galeon
[09:16] <madewokherd> it's dapper
[09:16] <bthornton> django_: it's cool; thanks
[09:16] <AAA> wheels3572  apt-get update && apt-get install <pkg>
[09:16] <nikin> dapper drake :D
[09:16] <medfly> alright, thanks
[09:16] <dr_willis> nikin,  you may want to check out setting their umask in the .bash_profile for the user
[09:16] <gnomefreak> galeon is a webbrowsetr
[09:16] <django_> bthornton, but i know how those things really annoy
[09:16] <gnomefreak> web browser*
[09:16] <bthornton> You know I wonder if I'm not hitting the correct file--mine doesn't even have a DocumentRoot directive
[09:16] <abloylas> does anybody know how to get wmv3 files to work through firefox?
[09:16] <Nuked> gnomefreak: ya
[09:17] <wheels3572> AAA: so the pkg would be sources.list?
[09:17] <medfly> gnomefreak, its useful info, thanks
[09:17] <django_> nikin, in their profile file, set the umask
[09:17] <bthornton> where is the main config file for Apache in Ubuntu?  I've done this on other distros before without problems
[09:17] <AAA> bthornton  read the docs, you will prolly have to add that line
[09:17] <gnomefreak> Nuked: someone said they heard 6.06 dapper was called galeon ;)
[09:17] <Nuked> ROTFL
[09:17] <Nuked> honest mistake?
[09:17] <django_> nikin, or you can set it universally in most *nix distos in /etc ...
[09:17] <dr_willis> abloylas,  install some of the media plugins like the vlc-firefox or totem-firefox or whatever and install all the codec packs
[09:17] <AAA> wheels3572  no, the the pkg would be the name of the pkg you want to install (ie. apt-get install apache2)
[09:17] <django_> dr_willis, doh, sorry, didn't see you answer nikin
[09:18] <zugu> hi all
[09:18] <FuriousRage> does "dapper" refer to something special? i often think of diaper because its close
[09:18] <abloylas> dr_willis: can you name the exact packages?
[09:18] <dr_willis> !multimedia
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[09:18] <dr_willis> Nope
[09:18] <django_> bthornton, dunno, how many httpd.conf files on your machine do you have?
[09:18] <bthornton> AAA: But must it already have a DocumentRoot declared?  I am getting a directory listing and it just so happens to be the contents of /var/www --but the string "/var/www" is nowhere in the file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:18] <wheels3572> AAA: Ohhhh no no I just manually uncommented and added to my sources.list file in /etc/apt ,,, I am just wondering is there something else I need to do now after that
[09:18] <AAA> wheels3572  nope
[09:19] <AAA> bthornton  there is a directory structure in apache2 for the conf's.  look in  sites-enabled and sites-available
[09:19] <bthornton> AAA: awesome; thanks
[09:20] <voraistos> no tips to compile a kernel the "ubuntu way" ?
[09:20] <django_> ah, i only use apache1.3x , soz :)
[09:20] <AAA> bthornton  sites-enabled are symlinks to sites-available FYI
[09:20] <abloylas> wmv3 still seems to be a problem for firefox
[09:20] <bthornton> Aha!
[09:20] <django_> i don't trust the new-fangled apache2 ;)
[09:20] <synic> voraistos: besides "don't", I think there's make-kpkg
[09:20] <abloylas> automatix isn't handling it either
[09:20] <AAA> bthornton  hehe
[09:21] <AAA> the "new-fangled" apache is like 2y old =p
[09:21] <allen> anyone in here use kino
[09:21] <bthornton> Out of curiosity, is this an Ubuntu-specific creation?  In Fedora, everything was more-or-less lumped into a single httpd.conf file...
[09:21] <django_> AAA, we move slowly in our department :)
[09:21] <synic> bthornton: I believe it comes from debian
[09:21] <AAA> bthornton  IIRC it is an apache2 thing, but I haven't used roothack for a while
[09:21] <bthornton> I see.  Different, but I think I could learn to like it
[09:21] <django_> bthornton, sounds like an apache2 thing
[09:21] <voraistos> synic: i can remember that, but i ll re-check to forums and howtos to  know more about the ubuntu kernels. thx
[09:21] <AAA> django_  tried and true....
[09:21] <synic> bthornton: along with the fancy scripts like a2ensite, a2enmod and friends
[09:22] <synic> voraistos: any particular reason you want to compile your kernel?
[09:22] <django_> AAA, like the machine running sunOS in the corner
[09:22] <django_> ahh
[09:22] <AAA> ewwwww
[09:22] <django_> haha
[09:22] <bthornton> alright thanks for your help; later
[09:22] <AAA> solaris?
[09:22] <django_> sunOS
[09:22] <lmosher> When a popup apperas in xgl/compiz on Gnome (recent example, a popup telling me of updates) the graphics go totally crazy... I get vertical lines of color and finally after it clears the menus are ruined.. They get a weird colored frame around them.
[09:22] <Shaezsche> i can only connect with my modem if i use a terminal and enter "wvdial". But it wont connect unless i enter "sudo wvdianconf" before wvdial each time. whats wrong?
[09:22] <django_> straight up
[09:22] <AAA> jezux
[09:22] <nikin> django: where are you now?
[09:23] <django_> nikin, at home
[09:23] <nikin> i mean phisical
[09:23] <django_> mentally, slightly stoned
[09:23] <voraistos> synic: i remember having a broken ubuntu kernel (not working properly on my machine), so i recompiled it " the ubuntu way" for my pentium M. it was much more powerfull than the i686 shipped with ubuntu(apt-get)
[09:24] <AAA> AU
[09:24] <voraistos> synic: i had a very bad hard drive failure, and my dear kernel is now gone. i want it back ;)
[09:24] <Nuked> AAA: wtf do avahi and bonjour have in common?!
[09:25] <django_> I needed to numb myself when i found out we were be using C#  in the next project
[09:25] <django_> nikin, yep perth, australia
[09:25] <voraistos> Nuked: maybe it means hello ?
[09:25] <AAA> Nuked  apt-cache show told me that
[09:25] <kevin__> hi all!!
[09:25] <shawnr_> django_, where can i find the ubuntu 64bit repository list. i would like to look through the applications
[09:25] <AAA> hehe, whois
[09:25] <nix> i think they are greetings in different languages
[09:25] <Nuked> voraistos LOL
[09:25] <nikin> django: me hungary / Europe  (or the balcan if oyu prefer :D)
[09:26] <Nuked> NIKIN IS BALKAN OH NO
[09:26] <django_> shawnr_, haha i'm the wrong person to ask, been using ubuntu for all of a day ... *nix for a good 10 years though
[09:26] <Nuked> THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
[09:26] <nikin> Nuked :D why?
[09:26] <django_> shawnr_, but i did use debian woody back in the day, so i'm not a virgin
[09:26] <AAA> mmmmm virgin
[09:27] <Nuked> hungary considers itself balkan?
[09:27] <shawnr_> lol
[09:27] <shawnr_> does anyone know where can i find the ubuntu 64bit repository list. i would like to look through the applications
[09:27] <nikin> Nuked: it was a joke if you look back
[09:27] <django_> woody/virgin, it worked for me
[09:27] <AAA> hah
[09:27] <nikin> no Hungary considers itself as Central Europe
[09:27] <Shaezsche> i can only connect with my modem if i use a terminal and enter "wvdial". But it wont connect unless i enter "sudo wvdianconf" before wvdial each time. whats wrong?
[09:27] <Nuked> LOL nikin
[09:28] <django_> actually , after installing ubuntu, i can't believe i futzed around with Freebsd for my desktop machine for the last 4 years
[09:28] <wheels3572> whats the command ps aux do?
[09:28] <django_> now strictly servers
[09:28] <qlash> yay installed ubuntu first time this morning already got World of Warcraft running :)
[09:28] <nikin> Nuked: and where are you from
[09:28] <bruder> nevermind, gconf-editor resolved my problem
[09:28] <Nuked> nikin USA
[09:29] <django_> the package system has become more slick and useful
[09:29] <AAA> wheels3572  shows you all the proc's from all the users, add a 'w' or two and find the cmd line used
[09:29] <django_> neatly organized
[09:29] <AAA> django_  indeed! apt/dpkg rule
[09:29] <Nuked> Nikin from the balkans though
[09:29] <wheels3572> AAA: I LOVE apt-get :)
[09:29] <nikin> apt rules :D
[09:29] <django_> in between the elegance of freebsd ports and the atrocious mess that is Gentoo
[09:29] <django_> don't hurt me ;)
[09:30] <Nuked> gentoo is SATAN
[09:30] <nikin> django: why are you using ubuntu
[09:30] <nikin> ?
[09:30] <lmosher> There's something weird w/ my sound. When I first start my laptop the sound is really really quiet until I move the volume slider while playing music, then it gets loud as normal.
[09:30] <AAA> haha, I once tried to install gentoo phase1 on an SGI O2 haha. I stopped it after 3days =p
[09:30] <stefg> I have a problem with the /dev/modem, which insists to point to /dev/ttySL0 after each reboot, but that's wrong (dev does not exist). The right target would be /dev/ttySHSF0. I had to try different drivers to get the modem going, so i assume something in udev got confused. Where can i configure the friggin' link to be set up correctly at boot?
[09:30] <django_> nikin, wanted to use a linux distro, we got sent about 100 in the mail, so ....
[09:30] <nikin> AAA BLNT :D
[09:31] <wheels3572> Where can I find bash command history/
[09:31] <wheels3572> ?
[09:31] <django_> nikin, plus i really like the debian layout and package (apt) system
[09:31] <haimiken> hola
[09:31] <nikin> stefg: a simlink cant do the job?
[09:31] <AAA> nikin  haha, naw I don't have anymore O2's I put debian on it after that
[09:31] <lmosher> wheels3572, The up arrow? :P
[09:31] <haimiken> alguien abla espaol
[09:31] <AAA> wheels3572  history
[09:31] <dr_willis> wheels3572,  could use the 'history' command.
[09:31] <wheels3572> ok
[09:31] <Cornellius> haimiken: #ubuntu-es
[09:31] <haimiken> mesesito ayuda urgente
[09:31] <AAA> wheels3572  or <ctrl>p
[09:32] <django_> AAA, sounds like an install from source i tried on a p75 with fbsd
[09:32] <stefg> nikin: i have to correct the link after each and every reboot now
[09:32] <dr_willis> wheels3572,  reading that advance bash guide - will help your Bash-FU gro strong.
[09:32] <dr_willis> !abs
[09:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about abs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:32] <django_> AAA, jeebus
[09:32] <wheels3572> AAA the computer was shut off over night and what I want is from lastnight :)
[09:32] <AAA> haha, Bash-FU
[09:32] <quitte> is there a possibility to upgrade from i386 to amd64 without reinstalling
[09:32] <quitte> ?
[09:32] <petemc> wheels3572: ~/.bash_history , usually, or whever $HISTFILE points to
[09:32] <AAA> wheels3572  history <--type that
[09:32] <django_> you must develop your sh Ki before your Bash-FU can truly shine
[09:32] <AAA> or what petemc said
[09:33] <AAA> haha, you geeks crack me up today...
[09:33] <petemc> wheels3572: the history gets written when you log out, if you didnt logout, its probably not retained
[09:33] <wheels3572> petemc: I shut the pc down lastnight so it should have logged me out right?l
[09:33] <AAA> you may want to make sure your bashrc doesn't have history=0
[09:33] <django_> AAA, hopefully laughing at us geeks, not with us ;)
[09:33] <django_> the best laugh of all
[09:33] <lmosher> wheels3572, vi ~/.bash_history
[09:33] <AAA> django_  if only...
[09:34] <django_> haha
[09:34] <petemc> wheels3572: should have, easy to check, as you've been told, type history, or look in your home dir
[09:34] <wheels3572> Ok
[09:34] <wheels3572> I got it
[09:34] <django_> and always, always have set -o vi on
[09:34] <django_> no flames, just jokes
[09:34] <AAA> vim
[09:34] <django_> it's symlinked, no?
[09:35] <AAA> in most distros
[09:35] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me with pftp?
[09:35] <django_> the only ones still using actual vi are fbsd
[09:35] <roe> anyone know if ubuntu-server comes with a firewall?
[09:35] <AAA> django_  except when the administrator doesn't install vim
[09:35] <nikin> why is everyone  using vi... i cant get with that editor... maybe i ame not geek enough
[09:35] <AAA> roe  iptables
[09:35] <django_> AAA, ah a mean admin, like me
[09:35] <crimsun> voraistos: I can't see any real difference in these configs. Pentium M uses += -march=i686 $(call tune,pentium3)
[09:35] <dixie> is archive.ubuntu.com working for you ?
[09:35] <visik7> is there a guide to unattended installation and slipstreaming updates ?
[09:35] <django_> who only installs ed
[09:36] <AAA> nikin  cause it works in a screen session
[09:36] <Bergcube> I have enabled remote desktop on a machine and want to cotrol it remotely from another.  I am able to do it from the command line, and then it asks me for the password I set.  But as far as I can understand I should be able to do this with the Terminal Server Client applic as well.  But I can't figure it out.  Anyone with experience there?
[09:36] <AAA> haha not even sed?
[09:36] <django_> nikin, once you get the hang of vi, you can't go back
[09:36] <django_> sed is for windowsers
[09:36] <django_> ;)
[09:36] <AngryElf> how do i make an iso from a cd?
[09:36] <lmosher> django_, I had a terminal account that only had vi. I actually compiled vim in my home dir b/c I couldn't stand it :)
[09:36] <roe> AAA: is there an easy way to manage it?
[09:36] <dixie> AngryElf: by dd
[09:36] <roe> or turn it off
[09:36] <django_> mkisofs
[09:36] <DragoraN> django_: Knock knock, Neo.
[09:36] <nikin> django_ i even cant quit vi
[09:36] <nikin> :D
[09:36] <django_> but i'm sure ubuntu has a graphical way
[09:37] <visik7> !unattended
[09:37] <AngryElf> dixie, specifically?
[09:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about unattended - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:37] <visik7> !kickstart
[09:37] <nikin> but not becouse i like it :D
[09:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about kickstart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:37] <django_> DragoraN, yeah, i get the hint ;)
[09:37] <Cornellius> !info kickstart
[09:37] <ubotu> Package kickstart does not exist in dapper
[09:37] <madewokherd> AngryElf: if you're using gnome, you can "copy" a cd to a file image
[09:37] <madewokherd> from nautilus
[09:37] <django_> nikin, lol try ed then
[09:37] <AngryElf> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso  <--good enough?
[09:37] <nikin> !info vi
[09:37] <ubotu> Package vi does not exist in dapper
[09:37] <django_> dont
[09:37] <django_> !info vim
[09:37] <nikin> !vi
[09:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about vi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:37] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In repository main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[09:37] <voraistos> crimsun: i dont know about the technical aspect. i usually benchmark with mplayer compiles for the kernel i test and try some DVD play. I DO see the difference
[09:37] <DragoraN> AngryElf: it should work vice-versa :)
[09:38] <dixie> AngryElf: i don't remember exact command, wait i will look for it
[09:38] <lmosher> Does anyone know why a popup window (apt telling me I have updates) totally ruins my xgl? Lots of graphics glitches abound.
[09:38] <Danag|Away> "so i recompiled it " the ubuntu way" for my pentium M." -- What is "the Ubuntu way"?
[09:38] <DragoraN> lmosher: ebay.com -> GeForce
[09:38] <lmosher> DragoraN, laptop.
[09:38] <django_> Danag|Away, an inlusive, happy way
[09:39] <django_> or that
[09:39] <dixie> AngryElf: i found using google readcd dev=/dev/dvd -f backup.iso using cdrtools
[09:39] <nikin> linuxing on a laptop is fun coz you can change hardware:D
[09:39] <lmosher> DragoraN, So you're saying my ATI 7500 isn't cutting it? It performs flawlessly until that pops up...
[09:39] <DragoraN> lmosher: does it have ExpressCard ?
[09:39] <voraistos> i compiled it the way the ubuntu team compiles it. i took the latest kernel from kernel.org
[09:39] <shawnr_> uuuuuhhhggg, i am scared like a little kid to install ubuntu 64 lol ;) what if nothing works!
[09:39] <voraistos> but now i cant remember what i did, and cant find the info i found that time
[09:40] <shawnr_> ;)
[09:40] <nikin> lmosher: try to get rid of that autoupdate stuff
[09:40] <Danag|Away> What should I select for a Yonah?
[09:40] <Danag|Away> It's a Pentium-M architecture, but it also has SSE3.
[09:40] <quitte> danag 686-smp
[09:40] <django_> shawnr_, haha um reinstall ubuntu?
[09:41] <shawnr_> i know
[09:41] <Danag|Away> Oh, and I still can't get my udev rules to work.
[09:41] <lmosher> nikin, yeah I'm doing it, but that doesn't solve the underlying problem :)
[09:41] <shawnr_> its just a pain
[09:41] <h3x0r> how do you add more workspaces to compiz
[09:41] <django_> yeah
[09:42] <Danag|Away> In the "cube" plugin.
[09:42] <nikin> lmosher i think you cant slove that, i think they are using same resources
[09:42] <shawnr_> h3x0r, install Gset-Compiz
[09:42] <h3x0r> yea i got gset
[09:42] <django_> christianubuntu? hmm thanks, but where's the atheistubuntu channel?
[09:42] <h3x0r> i changed viewports to 6
[09:42] <h3x0r> it didnt do anything
[09:42] <h3x0r> even after restarting X
[09:42] <django_> or satanubuntu?
[09:42] <Danag|Away> is what I get.
[09:42] <SS2> anybody that uses fluxbox here? just broke it...
[09:43] <django_> SS2, yeah
[09:43] <nikin> Budhubuntu
[09:43] <LeaChim> django_, did you hear microsoft said vista was hardware agnostic? i don't want an OS that doesn't know whether or not the hardware exists! :P
[09:43] <Danag|Away> rather than giving me the proper output.
[09:43] <shawnr_> django_, i think i will wait till this weekend to tackle 64 bit ubuntu ;)
[09:43] <django_> SS2, haha how did it "break"?
[09:43] <h3x0r> and there is no numeric option on the cube page
[09:43] <django_> LeaChim, haha sounds like a microsoft plan though
[09:43] <SS2> django_: just came here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox#head-fd2db374c08de16f28a6e0b72b708f5c423f37cb
[09:44] <SS2> edited the xession file, and then I couldn't login to it anymore
[09:44] <nikin> hexor: do you use gnome?
[09:44] <h3x0r> yes
[09:44] <django_> SS2, you are using gdm?
[09:44] <SS2> django_: yes
[09:44] <shawnr_> SS2, thanks why you backup the file before you edit it.. so you can just cp it back ;)
[09:45] <Danag|Away> I get /lib/udev/usb_id returned status 1
[09:45] <Danag|Away> rather than the proper output.
[09:45] <SS2> shawnr_: I know, bann me for my stupidness :)
[09:45] <nikin> so you rightclicked on the 4 little things and has choosen preferencies
[09:45] <h3x0r> right i did that
[09:45] <shawnr_> SS2.. lol
[09:45] <h3x0r> but compiz overrides it
[09:45] <nikin> and tried to incrase the number
[09:45] <nikin> ?
[09:45] <nikin> right?
[09:45] <h3x0r> and makes it think theres only 1 workspace
[09:45] <dribble> is gmail down for anybody else?
[09:45] <django_> SS2, so why not lose the xsession file and cut your losses?
[09:45] <h3x0r> if i change the number there it breaks everything
[09:45] <lmosher> h3x0r, Are you using gset-compiz?
[09:45] <SS2> django_: you also use gdm? maybe you want to paste youre xession?
[09:45] <h3x0r> lmo: yep
[09:45] <django_> SS2, it's not a fluxbox problem really
[09:46] <lmosher> h3x0r, hrm, you might try using gconf-editor, then
[09:46] <shawnr_> dribble, not me, working fine
[09:46] <django_> SS2, no, that's why i ask, when i strip down to fluxbox i don't use gdm
[09:46] <SS2> not? worked the other day (cause i didn't edit the file)
[09:46] <django_> SS2, just startx from command line
[09:46] <dribble> shawnr_, harumph!
[09:46] <shawnr_> lol
[09:46] <lmosher> h3x0r, though I did just test and it works fine for me :/
[09:46] <h3x0r> lmosher: where did you change it ?
[09:46] <lmosher> h3x0r, the very first page tha topens on gset-compiz ("number of viewports")
[09:47] <h3x0r> omg this is like regedit
[09:47] <h3x0r> hahaha
[09:47] <h3x0r> That worked, thanks
[09:47] <lmosher> oh, lol np
[09:47] <lufis> Has anyone else noticed Xorg slowdowns? It makes the mouse lag and I end up clicking on something I don't want to click on. It's so irritating!
[09:47] <django_> SS2, and that backing up any config file before you edit it should be said again :)
[09:47] <h3x0r> I guess theres a bug in the current gset
[09:48] <shawnr_> django_, lol
[09:48] <h3x0r> yay i found a bug
[09:48] <SS2> django_: I know, thank you :)
[09:48] <shawnr_> django_, i think im gonna wait to tackle 64bit till this weekend. i need to comp for work tonight lol
[09:48] <django_> SS2, these are the things that help you remember
[09:48] <roe> anyone know how to disable iptables, I just wanna make sure that iptables is infact causing my problem
[09:49] <django_> shawnr_, good idea then haha
[09:49] <lostsinc> hi where can I find a copy of the default /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:49] <django_> roe,  what does iptables -L give you?
[09:49] <lmosher> shawnr_, You're looking to install 64 bit ubuntu?
[09:49] <SS2> django_: I'll reinstall the package. hope that all configs will be set back to 0
[09:49] <shawnr_> lostsinc, apt-setup i think
[09:49] <shawnr_> lmosher, thinking about it
[09:49] <django_> roe, all ACCEPT?
[09:49] <roe> django_: yup all 3 tables
[09:49] <SS2> won't lose anything anyway. just wanted to install it, to get started
[09:49] <hbi> any1 know how to change the sensitivity of the clicking by tapping the touchpad
[09:49] <django_> roe, then it likely isn't your problem
[09:50] <shawnr_> lmosher, thinking about it... why have any advice?
[09:50] <django_> roe, you could unload the module if you really wanted to be sure
[09:50] <lmosher> shawnr_, I had that on my desktop (3500+). It really just depends on what you use... There are still a lot of things that aren't supported. I went back to 32.
[09:50] <roe> django_: wanna take a stab at what my problem could be
[09:50] <django_> unless you compiled it into the kernel
[09:50] <django_> roe, what is the problem?
[09:50] <Nuked> AAA it worked
[09:50] <mwe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove kdelibs-bin. wont that break KDE?
[09:50] <AAA> Nuked  badass! sometimes I know stuff =p
[09:50] <shawnr_> mve, no
[09:50] <lmosher> shawnr_, It really just depends on what you want/use. I could deal w/out a few things but after awhile I got sick of it. I encourage you to try (possible on a spare HDD etc)...
[09:51] <roe> django_: fresh install of ubuntu-server, bind9 is setup and works locally, dhcp is setup and works on the the network, the server can ping the other computers on the network but the other computers can't ping it
[09:51] <shawnr_> mve, trust the all mighty apt-get!
[09:51] <django_> roe, if it's connection from two machines, ping might sort out if their is connectivity
[09:51] <lostsinc> shawnr _ the only apt- options are apt-cache             apt-extracttemplates  apt-key
[09:51] <lostsinc> apt-cdrom             apt-ftparchive        apt-sortpkgs
[09:51] <lostsinc> apt-config            apt-get
[09:51] <Nuked> mwe I just removed kdelibs-bin
[09:51] <Nuked> ill let you know if its ok
[09:51] <AAA> roe  iptables -L <--- your iptables blocking ICMP?
[09:51] <django_> roe, oh you're on it :) ...roe do you know how to use tcpdump?
[09:51] <mwe> Nuked: ok. did the live usb work?
[09:52] <django_> AAA, he said all ACCEPT
[09:52] <shawnr_> lostsinc, there IS a special apt command to set up the repositories... i just forget what it is
[09:52] <nikin> shanr_ did you get the Abiword working
[09:52] <nikin> ?
[09:52] <django_> AAA, wouldn't that mean ICMP as well?
[09:52] <Nuked> no but its because of how ubuntu reads the pendrive
[09:52] <h3x0r> haha compiz is so much better than os-x
[09:52] <AAA> django_  not positive
[09:52] <roe> AAA: iptables does not explicitly state blocking icmp
[09:52] <django_> roe, if you can use tcpdump on the server machine, you can see what's happening to the packets
[09:52] <programcode> DJAdmiral: Could I ask you something?"
[09:52] <SS2> django_: ok, the reinstall helped me out now :)
[09:52] <django_> AAA, i think it's all ACCEPT
[09:53] <roe> django_: I will investigate
[09:53] <AAA> tcpdump -xXlnei eth0 <host>
[09:53] <programcode> Anyone here uses 3ddesktop?
[09:53] <django_> unless ping echo is blocked by a sysctl or something
[09:53] <h3x0r> well it kind of sucks that you cant name workspaces
[09:53] <h3x0r> oh well
[09:54] <django_> otherwise as always, i'm sure there is a unbuntu graphical frontend to tcpdump
[09:54] <programcode> Well can someone help me with installing 3d desktop?
[09:54] <AAA> django_  ethereal?
[09:54] <dr_willis> programcode,  and the problem is?
[09:54] <django_> AAA, ah yeah, i like tethereal
[09:54] <AAA> django_  you are terminally terminal =p
[09:54] <programcode> I can't find it in the synaptic package to install, so I need help installing itmanually
[09:54] <django_> AAA, haha i have no choice on some machines
[09:54] <dr_willis> !3ddesktop
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about 3ddesktop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <AAA> programcode  dpkg -i <pkg>
[09:55] <django_> AAA, big data centre, little 12 inch mono monitor
[09:55] <shawnr_> lostsinc, scratch that. apt-setup only in debian, not avail in dapper. sched for the next release though
[09:55] <nikin> its in the repos
[09:55] <programcode> AAA so for the 3ddesktop what would I put
[09:55] <visik7> servers again down ?
[09:55] <finalbeta> Just installed automatix, when I run it, it pops up and vanishes. is this an error with the latest version?
[09:55] <nikin> i have seen it if i remember well
[09:55] <django_> screen is my best friend
[09:55] <shawnr_> lostsinc, go here http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories    and just forget the last 2 sources
[09:55] <Vladaz> hello
[09:55] <AAA> django_  I am trying to get a job like that ATM
[09:55] <django_> haha screen is my main window manager
[09:55] <Vladaz> i try to install deb package and it says Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python-central
[09:55] <django_> AAA, don't live in Perth, Western Australia, do you?
[09:56] <Vladaz> what's wrong?
[09:56] <AAA> programcode  do you have the .deb? just dpkg -i pkg.deb if it needs deps, it will tell you
[09:56] <AAA> django_  naw Minneapolis,mN
[09:56] <nikin> djdango: screen?
[09:56] <stokholm> hi... does this sources.list look okay? I'm not sure I understand it correctly... I think the default sources.list is a big mess...
[09:56] <stokholm> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe
[09:56] <stokholm> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe
[09:56] <Ryuji> Hi, i have a question
[09:56] <flodine> does anyone of a good music program for linux like reason or pro tools
[09:56] <django_> AAA, heh, soz, can't help then
[09:56] <AAA> screen is the best window manager/terminal emulator EVER
[09:56] <dr_willis> !easysource
[09:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:57] <django_> AAA, maybe Prince could hook you up
[09:57] <stokholm> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe
[09:57] <AAA> flodine  mplayer
[09:57] <Ryuji> Is it possible to use the Wireless feature in the live cd of Ubuntu?
[09:57] <django_> nikin, google it, rocks
[09:57] <programcode> hey AAA it is a rpm
[09:57] <django_> detaching and re-attaching esp.
[09:57] <AAA> django_  no shit, that would be cool.  I don't eat meat or wear leather so I should be all good for him
[09:58] <django_> hahaha
[09:58] <AAA> programcode  you need to use alien then (if you can't find a deb for it or source)
[09:58] <django_> but maybe not for us ;)
[09:58] <django_> whoa, alien still around
[09:58] <django_> woulda thought the redhat monster woulda been conquered
[09:58] <django_> all debs
[09:58] <AAA> yeah, but I don't reccomend it
[09:58] <AAA> it does =p
[09:59] <nikin> google didnt find it.... its something like JWM or MWM?
[09:59] <jk_> after trying to get xgl to work (and failing) i put my system exactly how it was before i started, I used a saved xorg.conf. But now it does not recognise my ati board. any ideas?
[09:59] <AAA> programcode  I would find the source and build a deb yourself
[09:59] <stefg> !ardour > flodine
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ardour  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:59] <AAA> nikin  it is in every distro screen
[09:59] <stefg> !info ardour > flodine
[09:59] <ubotu> Package ardour does not exist in dapper
[09:59] <AAA> !screen
[09:59] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:00] <django_> nikin, try screen gnu
[10:00] <django_> for search
[10:00] <dr_willis> !twin
[10:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about twin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:00] <dr_willis> !info twin
[10:00] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 424 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[10:00] <stefg> !info ardour-gtk
[10:00] <django_> it's gotta be gnu
[10:00] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-2build1 (dapper), package size 2188 kB, installed size 5992 kB
[10:00] <django_> yep
[10:00] <AAA> django_  you prolly use ion too, eh?
[10:00] <django_> AAA, never heard of it
[10:01] <jk_> after trying to get xgl to work (and failing) i put my system exactly how it was before i started, I used a saved xorg.conf. But now it does not recognise my ati board. any ideas?
[10:01] <django_> well i have now
[10:01] <nikin> LOL
[10:01] <programcode> AAA I did the dpkg and it unpacked it now what?
[10:01] <AAA> !ion
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about ion - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:01] <django_> i'm checking it out now AAA
[10:01] <AAA> nikin it is a tiny little wm, uses keyboarding
[10:01] <nikin> but i think now i cant live without X, not yet, maybe in the future
[10:01] <roe> django_: AAA ok I have some info... the pinging computer returns destination host unreachable, the tcpdump reports arp who-has <sever-ip> tell <pinging-IP>
[10:02] <Vladaz> i try to install deb package and it says Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python-central
[10:02] <django_> AAA, i actually don't get to use linux much, mostly freebsd, AIX and solaris. hopefully more linux now
[10:02] <Vladaz> what's wrong?
[10:02] <Vladaz> help please:)
[10:02] <AAA> roe  arp -a  :: do you see the mac of the host computer?
[10:02] <roe> I see 2 macs, one is all FFs
[10:02] <django_> AAA, so all the tools i use have to be available on most of the OSs, or portable
[10:02] <AAA> roe  all FF would be a broadcast address
[10:03] <jk_> what is eog please?
[10:03] <programcode> AAA I did the dkpg -i and unpacked it and it said setting it up, what do I do now?
[10:03] <AAA> django_  as it _should_ be
[10:03] <roe> the other is the pinging mac
[10:03] <django_> roe, so your routing is wrong
[10:03] <AAA> programcode  use it?
[10:03] <AAA> roe  route -n
[10:03] <Vladaz> anyone
[10:03] <nikin> AAA ion is fun
[10:03] <nikin> !ion3
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about ion3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:03] <AAA> Vladaz  satisfy your deps
[10:03] <programcode> how do I use it? How do I figure out where it installed to?
[10:03] <dr_willis> !info eog
[10:03] <ubotu> eog: Eye of Gnome graphics viewer program. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 495 kB, installed size 3336 kB
[10:03] <Vladaz> AAA: how?
[10:03] <Vladaz> :d
[10:04] <AAA> Vladaz  install the pkg's it complained about
[10:04] <Vladaz> it can't be found
[10:04] <django_> roe, how are these computers connected?
[10:04] <jk_> thanks :)
[10:04] <programcode> how do I use it? How do I figure out where it installed to?
[10:04] <nikin> why is MC not a standard part of ubuntu?
[10:04] <roe> AAA: route -n = 2 entries Dest = <the correct network (192.168.0.0)>, Gateway = 0.0.0.0
[10:04] <django_> i mean, there are no machines in the route doing forwarding, are there?
[10:05] <AAA> programcode  dpkg -L <pkg name> will give you the files that pkg installed
[10:05] <roe> the second entry is Dest 0.0.0.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1
[10:05] <Vladaz> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZfpjnI95.html
[10:05] <AAA> nikin  cause mc sucks (except for undeleting files)
[10:05] <Vladaz> thats what i get
[10:05] <Phoul> hello, Whats the name of the gnome panel applet that the gaim system tray icon goes into?
[10:05] <Vladaz> wen i try to install it
[10:05] <nikin> AAA what is wrong with it?
[10:05] <django_> roe, yeah what about 'netstat -r'?
[10:05] <jk_> I hate x ... there must be an better way surely
[10:05] <AAA> roe can you paste your routing table in paste.bin
[10:06] <django_> netstat -rn even .. ah yeah paste.bin
[10:06] <AAA> nikin  nothing, just hate'n
[10:06] <roe> AAA: not all that easy, no GUI
[10:06] <Vladaz> so anyone please?
[10:06] <AngryElf> where is the config file that contains the port that ssh runs on?? --so that i can change it
[10:06] <roe> AAA: ah but wait, I think I can
[10:06] <django_> AngryElf, yeah sshd.conf
[10:06] <programcode> hey AAA says no packages found matching the name....?
[10:06] <nikin> AAA everyone can use what he wants
[10:07] <django_> AngryElf, find it
[10:07] <AAA> Vladaz  install those pkg's python-central and python-whateveritwants
[10:07] <Vladaz> but it can't be found
[10:07] <Vladaz> it doesn't exist:/
[10:07] <Vladaz> in apt
[10:07] <AAA> Vladaz  what doesn't exist?
[10:07] <Vladaz> python-central
[10:07] <AAA> nikin  exactly
[10:07] <django_> AngryElf, ListenPort
[10:08] <Wanderer> woah, new kde hitting kubuntu
[10:08] <Wanderer> nice
[10:08] <roe> how do I redirect stdout to append a file instead of overwrite it
[10:08] <AAA> Vladaz  then you will need to find a repo that has that, or find that program and install it
[10:08] <nikin> hmm umask is not the dofoult chmod param vhen creating a file?
[10:08] <Vladaz> opendict: Depends: python-central (>= 0.5) but it is not installable
[10:08] <django_> AngryElf, nice idea to change it too, lots of traffic from chinese sites trying hundreds of passwords on port22
[10:08] <jk_> new gnome version today aswell
[10:08] <Vladaz>             Depends: python-wxgtk2.6 but it is not going to be installed
[10:08] <Vladaz> :/
[10:08] <AAA> Vladaz  be warned, if you use repo's that are not official ubuntu, you may run into other problems
[10:08] <jaygames> good evening. is there a way to disable the sound deamon so that drapper can be installed on an imac g5?
[10:08] <django_> roe, >>
[10:08] <Vladaz> but how come ubuntu doesn't have python
[10:09] <dr_willis> Never noticed it missing
[10:09] <AAA> Vladaz  it does, just not the python-foo you need
[10:09] <issmurf> is the repos at archive.ubuntu.com down?
[10:09] <nikin> hmm umask is not the dofoult chmod param vhen creating a file?
[10:10] <abhinay> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse          is it a valid repository ? is there any mirror in India ?
[10:10] <jk_> after trying to get xgl to work (and failing) i put my system exactly how it was before i started, I used a saved xorg.conf. But now it does not recognise my ati board. any ideas?
[10:10] <django_> issmurf, looks like it
[10:10] <issmurf> :(
[10:10] <dr_willis> jk_,  reinstall the ati drivers.
[10:10] <django_> nikin, where did you set the umask?
[10:10] <joseph> vbvbvbvb
[10:11] <nikin> /home/user/.bash_profile
[10:11] <joseph> bonsoir
[10:11] <nikin> why?
[10:11] <jk_> dr_willis I have tried but they are up to date ... But will try again :)
[10:11] <django_> nikin, did you source it? and are you that user?
[10:11] <AAA> nikin  do you need to touch ~/.bash_profile ?
[10:11] <AAA> er source thx django_
[10:11] <roe> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:11] <dr_willis> .bash_profile is only read on a Login shell also...
[10:11] <nikin> i didnt modify it yet. and yes i ame that user
[10:12] <django_> nikin, well, the umask is 022, right?
[10:12] <nikin> yup
[10:12] <django_> nikin, what perms are being created?
[10:12] <jk_> reboot bye
[10:12] <roe> AAA: here is pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19621
[10:13] <nikin> RW R  R
[10:13] <issmurf> i need to get some links to apt-repos whis is not down... anyone who have som tips?
[10:13] <django_> AAA, hey don't apologize, i'm all for touching
[10:13] <roe> AAA: the top one is route -n the bottom is netstat r
[10:13] <django_> nikin, yeah
[10:14] <django_> what's the problem
[10:14] <hosler> what is the plugin i need to install for gnomebaker to be able to burn my mp3 files into an audio disc?
[10:14] <AAA> roe  that looks correct.  can the other nodes on your lan use the services on on that box?
[10:14] <hosler> !gnomebaker
[10:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomebaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:14] <django_> nikin, change the umask, then source $HOME/.bash_profile, then see what happens
[10:15] <nikin> no problem, just thinking.. coz if 2 people log in to a server and they should be able to write eachothers files, the i need to set this not?
[10:15] <roe> it seems that DHCP is working, cause I have static leases that they are receiving, but DNS isn't working
[10:15] <nikin> like RW RW R  if they are in same group
[10:15] <django_> roe, ah so it's bind
[10:15] <wikidjeff> I'm having trouble installing the java JRE using java-package. package manager cannot find it and I have added universe and multiverse repositories.
[10:15] <django_> roe, have you used the bind testing utilities?
[10:15] <roe> django_: but pinging I wasn't using host names... straight IPS
[10:15] <hosler> !gnomebaker
[10:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomebaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:15] <hosler> what is the plugin i need to install for gnomebaker to be able to burn my mp3 files into an audio disc?
[10:16] <moreati> I have a slightly odd question. In Ubuntu 6.06 the document viewer (evince) displays 'Loadin' briefly, before the pdf displays. Is the lack of a 'g' a joke, or has it been hidden/missed somehow?
[10:16] <topyli> nikin: yes, and the executable bit for directories in which these files are
[10:16] <crimsun> hosler: gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:16] <django_> roe, of course, sorry
[10:16] <roe> django_: bind is happy locally everything resolves correctly
[10:16] <hosler> thanks
[10:16] <django_> nikin, well you can put ppl into groups
[10:16] <AAA> roe  and you can ssh into the server from a node?
[10:16] <jk_> Dr_wilson, All sorted after installing new gnome version all is well (weird)
[10:16] <topyli> he's doing that django_
[10:17] <roe> AAA: no only from the server
[10:17] <AAA> roe  just for fun, /etc/init.d/iptables stop and then try
[10:17] <nikin> but the default is that only one person can write it, not the whole grup
[10:17] <django_> topyli, sorry, i gotta start actually reading ;) might need to take nicotine enhancement break
[10:17] <wikidjeff> I'm having trouble installing the java JRE using java-package. package manager cannot find it and I have added universe and multiverse repositories.
[10:17] <nikin> and what should i set, if not 022
[10:17] <abhinay> wot is the nearest mirror to india for apt-get ?
[10:17] <nikin> ?
[10:18] <topyli> nikin: yes. you need to change that
[10:18] <roe> AAA: its not there
[10:18] <bXi> is there a way to configure my ati card?
[10:18] <topyli> nikin: i have a /home/pub where all this stuff lives
[10:18] <nikin> but what is the code for RW RW R?
[10:18] <django_> nikin, hehe, well i solve that problem on other nixes and unmentionable OSes with ACL's
[10:18] <arman> Hi everybody
[10:19] <crimsun> abhinay: probably cn.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <django_> linux supports some form of ACLs?
[10:19] <nikin> django: how?
[10:19] <AAA> roe  try iptables -F <flushes the tables>
[10:19] <crimsun> abhinay: or sg.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <roe> AAA: same result
[10:19] <topyli> nikin: all you have to is add permissios. like 'chmod -R g+rwx directory" where directory is the one where these files live
[10:19] <jk_> Who actualy maintains X ?
[10:20] <arman> should I need uninstall Firefox with synaptic to install last version???
[10:20] <django_> nikin, google umask and you'll never forget
[10:20] <AAA> roe  mii-tool is your device set for FD?
[10:20] <Raito> is ca.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[10:20] <crimsun> jk_: the lead maintainer in Ubuntu is Rodrigo Parra Novo.
[10:20] <nikin> topyli, but what if someone saves a file into that directory?
[10:20] <roe> AAA: FD?
[10:20] <django_> topyli, surely he should learn not to use the symbolics
[10:20] <AAA> full duplex
[10:20] <abhinay> crimsun, cn & sg wich country codes they are ?
[10:20] <django_> then umask makes more sense
[10:20] <jk_> crimsun, thank you
[10:21] <crimsun> Raito: no, bandwidth issues at the London DC.
[10:21] <roe> AAA: eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-F, link ok
[10:21] <crimsun> abhinay: china and singapore, respectively
[10:21] <django_> nikin, also check out octal ;)
[10:21] <nikin> i go and google around a bit, will come back to tell the results...
[10:21] <topyli> django_: ah now i see what you mean by the default being a problem
[10:21] <Gixbit> How do you start the installation of ubuntu through the command line?
[10:21] <Gixbit> and partition
[10:21] <Gixbit> partition first mostly
[10:22] <topyli> django_: i never learned the hex to change permissions :)
[10:22] <jk_> Gixbit, fdisk?
[10:22] <django_> topyli, it hurt my brain when i did
[10:22] <Flannel> topyli: it's octal, actually.
[10:22] <nikin> topy: but you didnt answer
[10:22] <AAA> roe  on your other nodes, is the netmask set to 255.255.255.0 ? and the broadcast what is it, and the network?
[10:22] <django_> and it's octal
[10:22] <cavediver> Is there someone who knows how to disable the annoying border animation going across the whole screen when starting programs from the panel =
[10:22] <topyli> Flannel: see?
[10:22] <Chousuke> the octal representation is really simple
[10:22] <nikin> if i set the permissions for the dir RW RW RW
[10:22] <Gixbit> jk_: You'll have to excuse me i havent used a linux system in over a year
[10:22] <Raito> crimsun: So that might be why everything I download from the ca archinve is either extreemly slow or nothing at all, what is the closest one to Toronto? us?
[10:23] <django_> nikin, did you get that page i msged you?
[10:23] <abhinay> my apt-get waiting more. saying 99% [Waiting for headers]  ? Any Suggestions ?
[10:23] <Muiop> Hi. I'm a newbie. Just a simple question. How to close the graphic system ( x ) for a better performance?
[10:23] <nikin> and user a puts a file into the dir
[10:23] <nikin> can user b write it?
[10:23] <topyli> nikin: the directory has to be rwx so that people can actually access the stuff inside
[10:23] <dr_willis> Muiop,  logout, go to the console., sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:23] <Chousuke> Muiop: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm) stop
[10:23] <roe> AAA: here is my test box /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:23] <Muiop> THANKS!
[10:23] <jk_> Gixbit, truth is i dont have a clue eather . but when i install gentoo i use fdisk to partition my drives
[10:23] <lostsinc> sorry to ask again is there a place to download a copy of the default repository file sources.list?
[10:23] <django_> nikin, yeah, the 'x' is for traverse in directories
[10:23] <Chousuke> Muiop: then you can remove gdm if you don't want automatic X
[10:24] <topyli> nikin: by default, this is indeed a problem. by default the permissions will be set to rwx------
[10:24] <AAA> Muiop  <alt><ctrl> F1 <--puts you in a virtual terminal but lets X run /etc/init.d/xdm|gdm|kdm stop kills your manager
[10:24] <django_> Muiop, i love your question btw
[10:25] <django_> nikin, you have hit upon one of the problems of *nix permissions, and why they had to introduce ACL's like ntfs uses
[10:25] <AAA> Muiop  if you don't want X to start at boot do this (assuming gdm) update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:25] <roe> AAA: and here is my dhcpd.conf
[10:25] <wikidjeff> I'm having trouble installing the java JRE using java-package. package manager cannot find it and I have added universe and multiverse repositories.
[10:25] <roe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19624
[10:25] <django_> Muiop, then if you ever want X, do 'startx' from command line
[10:26] <Bison> I'm looking for some X11 fonts i can use in image manipulation and stuff
[10:26] <Gixbit> jk_: Any idea how to partition some unallocated space on the the first hdd?
[10:26] <Bison> I'm actually using synaptic to look for packages
[10:26] <Lord_Athur> I can't update my packages with apt-get, it doesn't work, it could be sth related to the servers I use, how can I make a list with the apt-get servers again?
[10:26] <jk_> AAA does that start you at runlevel 3?
[10:26] <Bison> which category might i find them in?
[10:27] <Bison> Lord_Athur: what is the err message? You can look at your servers by looking at /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:27] <Bison> Anyone know where i can find font packages in synaptic?
[10:27] <Bison> or apt-get even...
[10:27] <django_> Lord_Athur, if you mean just at the moment, the servers are overloaded apparantly
[10:27] <AAA> jk_  debian uses rl 2 by default
[10:27] <arman> should I need uninstall Firefox with synaptic to install last version???
[10:28] <django_> arman, no, it upgrades it
[10:28] <jk_> Gixbit, using what program, if you have fdisk installed , open a terminal type fdisk then type p for options.
[10:28] <Bison> arman: I'm sure there is a way to dist-upgrade through synaptic
[10:28] <AAA> jk_  you can make rl3 gui if you want, that is a big diff between debian and rh the runlevels
[10:28] <nikin_> sorry i had sum network problem
[10:28] <django_> nikin, literally the story of my life
[10:29] <Bison> nikin_: that described the past 3 weeks of my life
[10:29] <Lord_Athur> yes, it seems to be that the server are too busy so that they take a lot of time do do sth, but this time can be various minutes and nothing happen, no transfer occur
[10:29] <arman> ok thanks
[10:29] <nikin_> django_ can you resend it?
[10:29] <jk_> AAA, thanks im new to debian (always used gentoo , TILL NOW) ;)
[10:29] <AJ004> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/first-ubuntu-billboard-spotted/
[10:29] <AAA> roe  it sounds like you have a routing issue, but without looking at it physically I don't know what else to recommend
[10:29] <nikin_> the adress
[10:29] <AJ004> ubuntu billboard in redwood city, california :)
[10:29] <topyli> nikin: you need to set the sticky bit, and set group id. so what you actually want for the dir i guess is drwxrwsr-t. not sure, i think i'm not qualified for this anymore :)
[10:29] <Bison> Lord_Athur: that happens quite frequently here, actually
[10:29] <AJ004> ubuntu rocks
[10:29] <django_> nikin, done
[10:29] <harisund> hello everyone. date command generates for august 08. I want to get only '8' and not '08' . Any ideas?
[10:29] <nikin_> then irssi is crap
[10:29] <AAA> roe  you could try adding the hosts to your table:: route add host <ip> /me thinks
[10:30] <Bison> nikin_: whats wrong with irssi?
[10:30] <Lord_Athur> Bison, it has been repeated several times the last two days, is it still normal?
[10:30] <AJ004> microsoft vista is delayed and the new version of ubuntu will KICK ITS ASS :)
[10:30] <django_> Lord_Athur, ubuntu has become too popular for it's own good ;)
[10:30] <AJ004> i think the next ubuntu will be primetime for linux
[10:30] <Lord_Athur> hahaha
[10:30] <Bison> Lord_Athur: I have had issues with the security repos lately
[10:30] <AJ004> now that ubuntu is doing billboards
[10:30] <DanaG|Away> If they can manage to get working udev rules like SusE has.
[10:30] <django_> harisund, ah you can delve into the man page, i had to do that once
[10:30] <AJ004> they gotta pull a mozilla :)
[10:30] <Bison> AJ004: really lets not get into this
[10:30] <AAA> billboards? where
[10:30] <AJ004> we need to get 15% of the os market for 2007
[10:30] <AJ004> AAA:  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/first-ubuntu-billboard-spotted/
[10:30] <DanaG|Away> I think SuSE is actually the closest to joe-schmoe usable.
[10:30] <django_> harisund, or get fancy with sed :)
[10:30] <AJ004> AAA: Redwood city, california
[10:31] <Lord_Athur> well, thanks all anyway
[10:31] <Lord_Athur> see ou
[10:31] <lopzided> what's the calculator that's packaged with kde?
[10:31] <nikin_> django: did you get my msg?
[10:31] <WhoDaBear> Hi there folks.  Can anyone recommend to me a good (and cheap) DVD x2 layer writer for use on my Ubuntu box?  Thx.
[10:31] <django_> nikin, hmm no
[10:31] <harisund> django I am ok with the sed .. I am going to look at that.. but do you think it is possible with date itself?
[10:31] <AJ004> Bison:  ubuntu billboards rock
[10:31] <AJ004> Bison:  we need more of em :)
[10:31] <jk_> when is the next release for ubuntu and will it include xgl or aiglx?
[10:31] <nikin_> cant you past it here?
[10:31] <django_> harisund, from memory i think it was, but it was hard to find
[10:31] <AAA> jk_  6mth cycle
[10:32] <django_>   http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html
[10:32] <AAA>  06 = year .06 = june
[10:32] <arman> if synaptic does not permit upgrade firefox, what can I do?
[10:32] <Bison> AJ004: Ubuntu is really just a distribution.  I think that linux should be pushed instead
[10:32] <AJ004> Bison and it will be........
[10:32] <Bison> arman: why does it not permit?
[10:32] <AAA> arman  build from source or wait
[10:32] <jk_> AAA thanks , sooo is 6 months up or just started ?
[10:32] <AAA> linux is just a kernel, ubuntu should be pushed instead?
[10:32] <AJ004> bison but we still need a distro to wrap around with for the mainstream masses
[10:32] <crimsun> arman: all the security fixes are backported.
[10:32] <Gixbit> jk_: ext2 or ext3?
[10:32] <AAA> jk_  it is Aug 3?
[10:33] <arman> Bison I can not mark the upgrade
[10:33] <Bison> AJ004: I just don't understand this distributionism
[10:33] <django_> AJ004, not just for the 'mainstream'
[10:33] <jk_> AAA, thanks
[10:33] <AAA> hehe, distibutionism
[10:33] <AAA> that sounds sexy
[10:33] <Bison> pretty good, huh...
[10:33] <arman> AAA how can I build???
[10:33] <django_> arrrgh, i got involved in a distro convo
[10:33] <Bison> arman: why not?
[10:33] <django_> shoot me
[10:33] <jk_> Gixbit, umm whats it going to be used for? used for
[10:33] <Bison> who cares about mainstream...it just doesn't matter
[10:34] <Gixbit> jk_: Desktop PC
[10:34] <harisund> django_ sweet.. the man page had it. date +%d pads it, date +%-d doesn't . Thanks ..
[10:34] <AAA> arman  ./configure && make && make install usually (READ THE INSTALL OR README FILE FIRST)
[10:34] <django_> harisund, haha you did all the work, i did "RTFM"
[10:34] <django_> ;)
[10:34] <WhoDaBear> My CD writer is broken! Can anyone recommend to me a good (and cheap) DVD x2 layer writer for use on my Ubuntu box?  Thx.
[10:34] <harisund> django_ I enjoyed it too ..
[10:34] <arman> Bison: simple I can not mark
[10:34] <Chousuke> Take non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please.
[10:35] <micahcowan> is there a reason why several packages in the Update Manager today are listed as "UNAUTHORIZED" (looks like mostly cups stuff)?
[10:35] <bigbill52a> lite on from newegg.com
[10:35] <django_> harisund, i *always* do
[10:35] <Bison> arman: does it give you a message?
[10:35] <bigbill52a> i have used on lite ons they are cheap and they work well
[10:35] <arman> AAA: Ok
[10:35] <gnomefreak> bigbill52a: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:35] <arman> Bison: no message
[10:35] <bigbill52a> opps
[10:36] <Bison> arman: then try apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:36] <Gixbit> jk_: Just a desktop/workstation PC
[10:36] <crazy_penguin> good night
[10:36] <jk_> I use ext 3 or reiser but im not sure about rieser with ubuntu. ext3 is more common now than ext2, ext2 is used only on boot partitions
[10:36] <Bison> won't that upgrade all your packages?
[10:36] <WhoDaBear> Sorry for wrong channel folks.  Thx. bigbill52a
[10:36] <Chousuke> ext3 is basically ext2 with journalling
[10:36] <django_> they say rieser is all fixed up now, but i haven't been able to bring myself to trust it
[10:37] <Chousuke> generally, ext3 is recommended. :)
[10:37] <Bison> i use ext3 for everything.  I haven't seen a noticible difference in anything else
[10:37] <AAA> unless you know why you want reiserfs, use ext3
[10:37] <pitti> Spec[x] : ping
[10:37] <Gixbit> but i'm still not quite sure how to do this ubuntu installation
[10:37] <Bison> And lets not mention Hans Reiser's attitude on the mailing list
[10:37] <Gixbit> doesnt really say anywhere on the site
[10:37] <django_> besides, i don't think i can mount reiser from within other OSs
[10:37] <Gixbit> just describes
[10:38] <nikin_> django_ i cant understand ... 022 is RWX RX RX
[10:38] <Bison> django_: can you mount ext3 from other os's?
[10:38] <nikin_> but if i save a file it gets RW R R
[10:38] <xed2> HEY EVERYONE I GOT AUTOMATIX INSTALLED JUST FINE!
[10:38] <jk_> Gixbit why dont you do a standard install?
[10:38] <django_> Bison, yeah, i'm talking about fbsd
[10:38] <Bison> nikin_: your not editing as root are you?
[10:38] <Gixbit> jk_: Because i don't know how with this particular distro
[10:38] <nikin_> Bison, nope
[10:38] <Bison> django_: oh i see...
[10:38] <xed2> I LOVE AUTOMATIX
[10:38] <Anti-Tedd> Wow, xed2, you got automatix installed fine?
[10:38] <Anti-Tedd> No problems at all?
[10:38] <juanc> hello, i need some help with keyboard configuration
[10:38] <xed2> oh damn you anti-tedd....
[10:38] <xed2>  ahaha
[10:38] <django_> who actually still call it ext2, but ....
[10:38] <Bison> you can't mount reiser3 in bsd?
[10:39] <jk_> Gixbit, I take it you have a cd?
[10:39] <django_> Bison, it says it reads and writes, but it don't
[10:39] <Dimitrije> Where can i download drivers for read/write ntfs?
[10:39] <Flannel> xed2: you're a lucky one.  Most peoples systems explode.
[10:39] <xed2> really ?
[10:39] <Gixbit> jk_: Yes i got the computer that's going to be installed on next to me and a laptop on my right with an IRC client on it
[10:39] <jk_> anybody use xfs or jfs?
[10:39] <xed2> well heres the deal, i installed it and ran it fine few days ago
[10:39] <ofer0> jk_, xfs
[10:39] <Flannel> xed2: yep, it's horribly unsafe.
[10:39] <Bison> only ext3 :)
[10:39] <xed2> i had to reinstall again
[10:39] <xed2> and now it installed
[10:39] <xed2> but just doesnt run  ?
[10:40] <xed2> but the first time, it was SUPERBLY flawless
[10:40] <Flannel> !tell Dimitrije about fuse
[10:40] <django_> and since i can only mount my ufs2 partitions as read only, i need a solution
[10:40] <jk_> ofer0, any problems?
[10:40] <ofer0> jk_, XFS don't have any problems.
[10:40] <bigbill52a> when i use synaptic...i get bad device error...and then everything works fine....
[10:40] <AJ004> i cant play realvideos with ubuntu
[10:40] <xed2> wow, i didnt know that
[10:40] <django_> i really wish the read/write for ufs2 could be implemented by now
[10:40] <AJ004> even tho i installed realplayer
[10:40] <ofer0> jk_, it's the oldest filesystem that people still use
[10:40] <Bison> AJ004: seriously, the realplayer linux sucks bad words
[10:41] <Flannel> xed2: if you're looking for support for it, you won't find it here.  It's not supported by Ubuntu, as it's unsafe and screws with peoples systems.
[10:41] <jk_> ofer0, is it ibm's?
[10:41] <xed2> so uh, no tips on getting automatix to run  ?
[10:41] <AJ004> bison:  I installed realplayer but it wont work with firefox, and it didnt even create an icon for it
[10:41] <rredd4> I found an error on the ubuntu wiki restricted formats page, for w32codecs.   This url is wrong:  hhttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb    There are one too many h's in http.  Who do I tell so it can be fixed?
[10:41] <Gixbit> jk_: So how do i start the installer?
[10:41] <ofer0> jk_, SGI
[10:41] <ofer0> jk_, Sillicon Graphics
[10:41] <Flannel> xed2: no, you'll have to hope they feel like helping you in #Automatix
[10:41] <Bison> Actually, when i run it, it takes up so many resources, that i can't do anything else
[10:41] <Nuked> Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182), connection timed out
[10:41] <xed2> alright flannel, thanks a lot
[10:41] <Nuked> repos are down?
[10:41] <AJ004> bison:  I'll prolly wipe the system and reinstall when ubuntu 6.10 comes out
[10:42] <Gixbit> Naturally i wouldn't be here but since there's nowhere on the site that explains how to install
[10:42] <Nuked> mwe
[10:42] <Bison> oh no! no icon?
[10:42] <Nuked> kubuntu is ok
[10:42] <DanaG> Does Ubuntu have a central hardware configuration app like SuSE's YaST?
[10:42] <DanaG> I can't find one.
[10:42] <Nuked> kcontrol
[10:42] <Nuked> ?
[10:42] <lostsinc> Whats the logic behind not wanting to use the qt3 files?
[10:42] <DanaG> No, that's user preferences.
[10:42] <nikin_> ok, lets see the problem.... i have a nice little network with 1 server and 3 workstations, i want that all the workstations can read/write/(execute) every file in a shared dirrectory, the network is using samba coz 1 workstation is using XP so how to do that?
[10:42] <Bison> DanaG: I'm guessing you mean some kind of graphic frontend?
[10:42] <jk_> Gixbit, Whin i did it i inserted the cd then rebooted .. the cd loaded , and installed everything for me ..have you got your bios set to boot from cd?
[10:43] <DanaG> At least a text menu.
[10:43] <jkelly2005> is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[10:43] <Gixbit> jk_: it boots and loads to a certain point then show's the kubuntu logo
[10:43] <Bison> DanaG: you know about /etc right?
[10:43] <Evil_Ed`> Hello
[10:43] <pitti> jkelly2005: yes, archive.ubuntu.com has all the packages, too
[10:43] <xed2> nikin_ use free nas !
[10:43] <django_> nikin_, set the perms with samba if you want
[10:43] <jk_> Gixbit, Then hangs?
[10:43] <Gixbit> jk_: then it hangs so i switch to a terminal command line using the hotkey
[10:44] <nikin_> xed2: what is free nas?
[10:44] <Gixbit> jk_: that's where i am now pondering how i can make this work.
[10:44] <fourat> hello
[10:44] <django_> not what you want
[10:44] <Evil_Ed`> interest
[10:44] <fourat> how can i change the default system locale ? i wont get it to utf8, i want iso
[10:44] <FuriousRage> hajuma juma nuka nuka apa huapa, is there a dist that works with nforce 4 (410 MCP) nic?
[10:45] <Gixbit> jk_: Yes it hangs doing nothing
[10:45] <DanaG> Anything with forcedeth.
[10:45] <jk_> Gixbit, If you scroll up is there any error messages?
[10:45] <Bison> FuriousRage: i believe kernel26 supports it
[10:45] <cycom> FuriousRage: I think that woudl just be the kernel, not the distro.
[10:45] <ofer0> FuriousRage, Every distro with 2.6 kernel
[10:45] <Gixbit> jk_: how do i scroll up?
[10:45] <knoppix> hi all
[10:45] <knoppix> have a problem
[10:45] <FuriousRage> ofer0: doesnt Ubuntu AMD64 come with 2.6?
[10:45] <jk_> shift and page up
[10:45] <Bison> wow, i beat out all of you
[10:45] <ofer0> FuriousRage, yes.
[10:45] <AJ004> aol cuts 5k jobs
[10:46] <AJ004> figures :P
[10:46] <Gixbit> jk_: Give me a few seconds then
[10:46] <ofer0> FuriousRage, Your NIC will work immediatly, no need for any installation at all.
[10:46] <LogicalDash> Hi guys, this isn't really a problem as such, but my wireless interface randomly changes its name back and forth between eth1 and wlan0 on startup. Any idea why this is so?
[10:46] <NemesisUK> i have dapper and that comes with the forcedeth module
[10:46] <AJ004> aol should cut all of em, we need high speed broadband not aol
[10:46] <Nuked> aol should be outta business
[10:46] <knoppix> my internet connection crash but i can still chat in gaim
[10:46] <AJ004> agree with nuked
[10:46] <NemesisUK> x86 and amd64
[10:46] <FuriousRage> ofer0: doesnt seam to work, since what ever i try to do, i dont get an ip
[10:46] <Bison> AOL should be kicked in the face
I agree!</aol>
[10:46] <ofer0> FuriousRage, Have you tried running dhclient ?
[10:46] <Nuked> rotfl
[10:46] <knoppix> but cant dl or surf the net and cant get packs from apt
[10:46] <FuriousRage> ofer0: and much more
[10:46] <AJ004> these time warner cable deals are gonna suck for us
[10:47] <jk_> ntl should be kissed in the face :)
[10:47] <FurryNemesis> LogicalDash, what's your default interface?
[10:47] <ofer0> FuriousRage, maybe you are just trying too much.,
[10:47] <AJ004> jk:  Ewwww NTL
[10:47] <ofer0> FuriousRage, You want me to solve your problem?
[10:47] <jk_> lol
[10:47] <knoppix> also to reconnect the internet i have to poff and then pon dsl-provider
[10:47] <NemesisUK> i had to disable ipv6 to get it working
[10:47] <AJ004> jk:  NTL and RCN are tied at the hip......... mooney sucks, he works with both companies and is a top dog
[10:47] <LogicalDash> FurryNemesis, wireless is my default interface... it consistently connects on every startup, but the name keeps changing
[10:47] <knoppix> pls help
[10:47] <django_> knoppix, sounds like DNS
[10:47] <FuriousRage> ofer0: already got windows ;>
[10:47] <ofer0> FuriousRage, I'm serious.
[10:47] <AJ004> jk:  NTL is poorly run as is RCN
[10:47] <knoppix> ye i know i fixed it before but dont remember how
[10:47] <AJ004> jk:  I keep waiting for RCN to get bought up :P
[10:48] <django_> knoppix, what is in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:48] <Bison> knoppix: please repeat your problem
[10:48] <FurryNemesis> LogicalDash, while you're connected?
[10:48] <e-m00> alright, why won't my avi files play correctly? sound works fine, but in any player i use, the video has a green stripe cut through it and the colors are messed up. i have all the codecs installed...
[10:48] <jk_> AJ004, truth is all  are pretty much the same
[10:48] <AJ004> jk_:  Not in the usa they arent
[10:48] <django_> knoppix, i can at least tell you if your nameservers are up
[10:48] <LogicalDash> FurryNemesis, no, it changes at startup and then keeps that name unless I start up again, at which point it may or may not change.
[10:48] <LordTureis> ubuntu doesn't seem to detect the second processor of my Intel Pentium 4 processor.
[10:48] <AJ004> jk_:  Depends on your market region and what you can get
[10:48] <django_> knoppix, anyway, set your nameservers in that file: /etc/resolv.conf
[10:48] <Gixbit> jk_: i'm at the point where it just hangs now
 i can send it to u
[10:49] <django_> knoppix, no
[10:49] <jk_> AJ004, in england we just get shafted no matter what company we use :)
[10:49] <knoppix> ok
[10:49] <FuriousRage> ofer0: what can you do that everyone else havent been able to help me with? ive tried "all" thats to be found on the ubuntuforums, i had like 5-6 ppl here trying to help me, nothing works ;/
[10:49] <Gixbit> jk_: But nothing happens when i try to shift + pageup
[10:49] <django_> knoppix, do you know your isps nameservers IPs?
[10:49] <FuriousRage> Nuked: aol? that thing still exist?
[10:49] <knoppix> i am gona check  /etc/resolv.conf first
[10:49] <ofer0> FuriousRage, I'm special.
[10:49] <Gixbit> jk_: just hangs at the kubuntu logo
[10:49] <AJ004> jk_:  well you arent in ireland but i wonder how magnet with adsl2+ is
[10:49] <Nuked> jk_ bots bt?
[10:49] <knoppix> be right back
[10:49] <Nuked> hows bt?
[10:49] <AJ004> jk_ they are owned by cvc ventures.......... they own a provider in the usa too
[10:50] <LordTureis> is there a way to get ubuntu to re-detect all of my hardware?
[10:50] <django_> knoppix, find out and put it in /etc/resolv.conf like "nameserver 203.200.122.22"
[10:50] <finalbeta> archivearchive.ubuntu down again?
[10:50] <AJ004> jk_:  hopefully come 2007 we have new options here......... the biggest problem in the usa for all of us is the geopolitical system IMHO
[10:51] <LogicalDash> AJ004, the "geopolitical system"? I've never heard that term befroe.
[10:51] <django_> LordTureis, hmm, you could type "shutdown" from console, then exit from that single user mode
[10:51] <jk_> AJ004, when my contract runs out im going to shop around real hard to get a good deal if there is one :P
[10:51] <knoppix> i have 2 lines with the word nameserver there
[10:51] <django_> knoppix, any numbers after them?
[10:51] <knoppix> nameserver 212.117.129.5
[10:51] <knoppix> nameserver 212.116.161.38
[10:51] <jk_> Gixbit, was there an option at all to check the cd for errors?
[10:51] <LordTureis> django: what do you mean by "exit single-user mode"?  what would that do?
[10:52] <AJ004> logicaldash:  http://www.iris-bg.org/publications/geopolitical.htm
[10:52] <dr_willis> exit single user mode and enter another mode. :P
[10:52] <AJ004> logicaldash:  Geopolitical systems is a valid term and is used in political science courses in colleges across this country :)
[10:52] <django_> knoppix, well it's taking requests, so it seems to be working
[10:52] <ofer0> FuriousRage, Well...?
[10:52] <knoppix> ye i know
[10:52] <knoppix> for now
[10:52] <jk_> Gixbit, try the shift + page up after opening the terminal
[10:52] <LogicalDash> AJ004, I wasn't challenging you, I was honestly curious.
[10:53] <knoppix> i still can chat in irc
[10:53] <django_> knoppix, so this happens a lot?
[10:53] <knoppix> when it will crash i will disconnect
[10:53] <knoppix> yep
[10:53] <Lil-Abner> Hi. I just reinstalled ubuntu in my upgraded machine. I'm having trouble with totem not showing videos with the .wmv file  identifier. Box comes up and says I need to add plugin. How do I do it?
[10:53] <FuriousRage> ofer0: well what?
[10:53] <AJ004> logicaldash most of education is on the internet nowadays
[10:53] <ofer0> FuriousRage, want me to solve your problem or not?
[10:53] <jk_> Geopolitical< is that world wide?
[10:53] <FuriousRage> ofer0: sure if you can
[10:53] <Gixbit> jk_: nothing at all
[10:53] <django_> knoppix, yeah because you were already connected to IRC. When you go to do something different it tries to connect to your nameserver again
[10:53] <knoppix> but the strange thing is that i can chat in gaim
[10:53] <AJ004> the problem is human pillars keep corrupting the knowledge for their own profit agendas :P
[10:54] <django_> knoppix, yeah, it's using IP addresses and not names
[10:54] <AJ004> not all but alot of people
[10:54] <knoppix> ok
[10:54] <Gixbit> jk_: ok i checked the cd for error's last night
[10:54] <NemesisUK> knoppix: where are you based
[10:54] <knoppix> israel
[10:54] <django_> knoppix, you have to see if you can reach a webpage from just an IP
[10:54] <Gixbit> jk_: when i choose the option to install or start kubuntu it starts up and then when it loads everything it hangs at the kubuntu logo
[10:54] <george_> #Radiolive
[10:54] <NemesisUK> whats your provider called
[10:54] <django_> knoppix, that will tell you if it is a nameserver problem (most likely)
[10:54] <knoppix> k
[10:55] <knoppix> 10x
[10:55] <lopzided> kde 3.5.4 was released today...is there an easy way to upgrade to it?
[10:55] <jk_> Gixbit, type start x
[10:55] <lopzided> yesterday actually
[10:55] <jk_> Gixbit, type startx
[10:55] <django_> knoppix, try 64.233.167.99 for google
[10:55] <knoppix> 10x
[10:55] <Gixbit> jk_: i need to configure my pcie video card
[10:55] <Gixbit> by downloading the fglrx
[10:55] <Dimitrije> What cd/dvd burning tool comes with Ubuntu 6.06 Drapper Drake?
[10:55] <django_> knoppix, maybe Hezbollah is fscking with your connection ;)
[10:56] <knoppix> neh
[10:56] <Dysk> Yep, that must be it.
[10:56] <Nuked> jebem sve srbin
[10:56] <ubuntu_> e
[10:56] <knoppix> where r u from?
[10:56] <django_> australia
[10:56] <Gixbit> !ati
[10:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <jk_> Gixbit, is kubunto installed? if so is networking working. ie the internet?
[10:57] <knoppix> i will tell u that they r good garilla fighters
[10:57] <finalbeta> Good luck on the ati install. You will need it
[10:57] <django_> i'm actually typing on a kangaroo
[10:57] <knoppix> but they still like animals
[10:57] <knoppix> they dont have souls
[10:57] <django_> knoppix, anyway that's offtopic
[10:57] <NemesisUK> the ati install isnt that hard, pm me if you need help
[10:57] <django_> knoppix, no more
[10:57] <knoppix> ye
[10:57] <finalbeta> NemesisUK, not hard, just doesn't work often.
[10:57] <knoppix> i dont hate them dont get me wrong
[10:58] <c|int> hey guys, can I install the wlassistant without installing all of KDE
[10:58] <finalbeta> From 6 installs it worked once
[10:58] <c|int> it seems to manage my wireless interface great,
[10:58] <django_> knoppix, yeah, i don't care, it's just not for this channel
[10:58] <Gixbit> jk_: that's what i'm trying to do allocate the space into a functioning linux partition then install kubuntu on that partition
[10:58] <NemesisUK> works on all the machines i've done it on
[10:58] <knoppix> k
[10:58] <knoppix> sorry
[10:58] <django_> knoppix, i'm happy to dicuss it elsewhere with you :)
[10:58] <c|int> guys?
[10:58] <Gixbit> jk_: it's kinda live cd right now
[10:58] <django_> knoppix, heh, i'm not an op, just didn't want to see you kicked
[10:58] <finalbeta> archive.ubuntu is to slow today, times out on downloads
[10:58] <knoppix> 10x
[10:58] <Dysk> Yeah, I'm actually kinda interested where you were going with that, but, yeah, it is OT.
[10:58] <django_> so no fear needed ;)
[10:59] <c|int> so I can or not?
[10:59] <django_> Dysk, haah i was too
[10:59] <Nuked> finalbeta, im pissed about that
[10:59] <django_> Dysk, but knew it would end in tears
[10:59] <knoppix> never mind
[10:59] <Dysk> Usually political discussions do.
[10:59] <django_> knoppix, so your nameservers
[10:59] <django_> knoppix, you tried the google IP?
[10:59] <Gixbit> is the unbuntu archive down?
[10:59] <rixxon> any msn client with webcam support, preferably in the repos
[10:59] <c|int> guys
[10:59] <knoppix> i have to get to work at 6 am and its 0 am right now
[11:00] <c|int> can I install the wlassistant in gnome, without installing kubuntu
[11:00] <erUSUL> rixxon: amsn
[11:00] <django_> knoppix, haha i know that feeling
[11:00] <knoppix> it didnt disconet yet
[11:00] <rixxon> erUSUL, thanks
[11:00] <finalbeta> Gixbit, no, but it's close, retry allot
[11:00] <knoppix> i havent slept for 7 days
[11:00] <django_> knoppix, 5am here and i was meant to go in at 10
[11:00] <xed3> for all the automatix haters out there, it works perfectly fine !
[11:00] <django_> not likely
[11:00] <xed3> newely updated, check your synaptic
[11:00] <xed3> its grreeatttt
[11:00] <knoppix> not because the war
[11:00] <finalbeta> just installed a system, need to upde. PS, getting a cool ati error, only when loading compiz.
[11:00] <knoppix> just i was drunk
[11:00] <knoppix> :)
[11:00] <LogicalDash> c|int, usually you can install any KDE software in Gnome
[11:00] <django_> if we all used ubuntu there would be no more wars
[11:00] <django_> surely
[11:01] <Gixbit> finalbeta: give's me trouble everytime i try apt-get update
[11:01] <knoppix> :))))
[11:01] <knoppix> yeah lets just all get along
[11:01] <JoseGosdin> CHRISTIAN UBUNTU WAS FAKE
[11:01] <django_> lol
[11:01] <finalbeta> Gixbit, you need to get lucky :/ get a slot on the server I guess, working for me now
[11:01] <Seveas> !shout
[11:01] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:01] <finalbeta> 95k, last month it was 1.2Mbit
[11:01] <django_> he's gone
[11:01] <knoppix> k good night all
[11:02] <django_> ciao
[11:02] <knoppix> was nice talking to django_
[11:02] <knoppix> cya
[11:02] <django_> lucky i wasn't arab :)
[11:02] <finalbeta> I just installed automatix , when starting it after the notifications it pops up the window and closes, no error :/ Anyone else getting this?
[11:02] <Gixbit> finalbeta: connection timed out
[11:02] <Seveas> !automatix
[11:02] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:03] <jk_> Gixbit, Im unsure how far into the install you get , if you have a fully installed system then i cant see why you need to free space . If you are using a live cd (knoppix style) then im afraid i cant help .
[11:03] <finalbeta> Seveas, thnx
[11:03] <Dysk> It's a really good thing people can't punch each other online.
[11:03] <farous> how come when i type in ubuntu cat/etc/debian_version i get testing/unstable :)?
[11:03] <Nuked> seveas whats up with repos
[11:03] <rmendez> sorry my english is basic,
[11:03] <Seveas> farous, because ubuntu is based on debian unstable
[11:03] <rmendez> one question
[11:03] <django_> farous, haha cause we all do
[11:03] <Seveas> Nuked, bandwoth issues
[11:03] <Gixbit> jk_: nothing is installed
[11:03] <Gixbit> jk_: i'm trying to install it in the first place
[11:03] <Nuked> fair enough
[11:03] <farous> Seveas: ok :)
[11:04] <rmendez> information about turbogears
[11:04] <Gixbit> jk_: and for some reason it hangs on the kubuntu logo
[11:04] <Gixbit> jk_: after it get's so far into loading the drivers and what not
[11:04] <jk_> Gixbit, is the kubunu logo the first thing that appears?
[11:04] <Gixbit> jk_: after everything is "Ok" till that point
[11:04] <Seveas> Gixbit, how far does it actually get?
[11:04] <Seveas> Gixbit, I saw this problem earlier today, try booting without splash
[11:04] <Gixbit> seveas: it get's to the point where all the drivers are loaded
[11:05] <Gixbit> seveas: splash??
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Gixbit: having problems with usplash?
[11:05] <Gixbit> i dont know
[11:06] <Gixbit> gnomefreak: i'm trying to install kubuntu and it hangs after all the driver's are loaded "ok"
[11:06] <Seveas> Gixbit, you can disable the splash screen during boot. Press esc when grub is loading to get the menu, select the entry you want to boot, hit the e key and remove the word splash. Then continue booting by pressing the b key
[11:06] <typhoid> how would one go about speeding up a wireless connection? my wireless is fast like it should be when i load windows..   but ubuntu.. it is slooow!
[11:06] <django_> haha you guess are waiting on a bug
[11:06] <Gixbit> seveas: kubuntu isn't even installed yet or grub or anything for that matter
[11:06] <Nuked> seveas whats with gdm
[11:06] <Seveas> Gixbit, the installer uses grub too 
[11:07] <Seveas> Nuked, what should be with it?
[11:07] <farous> typhoid: perhaps your nick ;) it is most probably your wireless driver
[11:07] <typhoid> farous: kthanks =D  i'll look around for a better one *~*~
[11:07] <fourat> how can i change the default system locale ? i wont get it to utf8, i want iso
[11:08] <dylan_> Can somebody help me install Counterstrike Source? Whisper me
[11:08] <Nuked> seveas I had gdm, it worked fine. then it complained about a file missing and then I was advised to reinstall it and encountered the same error
[11:08] <farous> fourat: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:08] <dylan_> Can somebody help me install Counterstrike Source? Whisper me
[11:08] <asathoor> how can I synchronize a mobile phone with the calendar?
[11:08] <Seveas> Nuked, what's the error
[11:08] <dylan_> Can somebody help me install Counterstrike Source? Whisper me
[11:08] <dylan_> Can somebody help me install Counterstrike Source? Whisper me
[11:09] <gnomefreak> dylan_: stop
[11:09] <gnomefreak> nvm
[11:09] <skeff> alsa-project.org is down. Which is the latest alsa version?    I'm checking because I know some late version of alsa has a fix for my souncard driver (ca0106) which enables dmix by default. It seems now that dmix is not enabled..
[11:09] <Seveas> gnomefreak, he stopped 
[11:09] <jk_> Gixbit, let me try my installer again and see if i can get it with no splash .brb
[11:09] <Nuked> I got rid of gdm seveas
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:09] <django_> gnomefreak, it was good to hear it said, just the same
[11:09] <vinicri> hi evereybody.. i need to mount ntfs windows disc and give permission for all users to read it.. i'm getting fine with mounting but i'm trying to give the permission n' its not working
[11:10] <Seveas> vinicri, use umask=0000 in the mount options
[11:10] <asathoor> vinicri >> as far as I know it is'nt possible. Try at Fat formatted drive
[11:10] <django_> vinicri, can't change the perms on a ntfs partition can you?
[11:11] <django_> i always have to use FAT as the middle man for that reason
[11:11] <vinicri> django, only root can access it?
[11:11] <Tixer> um, aside from a livecd, is there some way to try a permanent install of ubuntu without dual-booting?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Tixer: alternative cd
[11:11] <visik7> is there a way to get an updated install cd of ubuntu ? last day I've installed ubuntu on a pc of a friend of mine and took 134 updates !!
[11:12] <chantra> hi, is anyone running a -686 kernel on a centrino duo machine successfully?
[11:12] <django_> vinicri, not per se, but i think whatever perms it has, it is stuck with. have to be changed in windows
[11:12] <Gixbit> jk_, seveas: started the booting without the splash screen
[11:12] <ks> how do I copy folder content, following symlinks ?
[11:12] <Seveas> ks cp -r
[11:12] <AngryElf> in the event the liveCD i made is more than 800mb there's no reason i can't burn it to a DVD, yea?
[11:12] <ks> is it just tar ?
[11:12] <Tixer> preferably one where rebooting doesn't lose all settings?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> Tixer: alternative cd
[11:12] <Vladaz> hello
[11:13] <django_> vinicri, also i don't know if they are calling the write ability to ntfs stable, but i wouldn't call it that
[11:13] <Tixer> define: alternative cd
[11:13] <Vladaz> need help, i've got printer connected to my ubuntu PC, how can I share it with other computers in LAN which has Windows?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Tixer: its ubuntu text installer
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Tixer: just for the record the live cd installs ubuntu too
[11:13] <Tixer> Iknowthat
[11:14] <Gixbit> jk_: it stop's at the ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:14] <asathoor> visik >> try to download a new one from ubuntu.com
[11:14] <Tixer> btw,Idon'thaveaspacebar
[11:14] <django_> yeah, but you didn't have to pay to hear it again
[11:14] <Vladaz> anyone?
[11:14] <vinicri> i only need read perms, whereas change perms in windows will affect this )
[11:14] <vinicri> ?
[11:14] <django_> Vladaz, samba
[11:14] <zenmonk> if I don't want to use synaptic, how would I search for packages to install?  apt-get didn't seem to have a --search feature
[11:14] <Tixer> Iknowthatthelivecdinstallsubuntualso,IwantsomethingIcancustomiz,andpreferablynothavetoleavewindowstotry
[11:14] <mwe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove kdelibs-bin. wont that break KDE?
[11:14] <Seveas> zenmonk, apt-cache search
[11:15] <Gixbit> jk_: i saw some sort of "assertion" error but that's about it
[11:15] <Vladaz> ok samba, but how can I use it?
[11:15] <vinicri> i only need read perms, whereas change perms in windows will affect this ?
[11:15] <Gixbit> jk_: it stop's at the ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:15] <Gixbit> jk_: i saw some sort of "assertion" error but that's about it
[11:15] <Tixer> anyonehaveexperiencewithvirtualPC?
[11:15] <django_> vinicri, you will have to google around it, i can only tell you it can be done
[11:15] <Hotwire> vmware
[11:15] <skeff> Seveas, hey that's the funkiest smiley I've seen! What are those signs?
[11:15] <skeff> Seveas,  
[11:15] <django_> vinicri, did you try what Seveas said?
[11:15] <FurryNemesis> Tixer, spaces please
[11:16] <Gixbit> jk_: i cant scroll up to see the exact error, i started it without the splash screen too and still at this point
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> zenmonk: dpkg -l
[11:16] <vinicri> umask=000?
[11:16] <mwe> skeff: it's a japanese letter or something like that I think
[11:16] <django_> didn't see, but whatever it was, try it?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> chinese i think
[11:16] <ofer0> umask is the opposite of permissions
[11:16] <mwe> skeff: 
[11:16] <gnomefreak> kano or something like that
[11:17] <vinicri> yeah.. didn't work
[11:17] <ofer0> 000 = 777, 022 = 755, 133 = 644, etc..
[11:17] <skeff> gnomefreak, a google pops up hundreds of .jp domains so I guess japanese :)
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> zenmonk: http://www.ccl.net/cca/software/UNIX/updating-redhat/apt-howto/how-to-use-apt-cache.html
[11:17] <vinicri> so.. remove umask?
[11:17] <mwe> no key combination binds to  here that I know of though
[11:17] <gnomefreak> skeff: hold on ill look
[11:17] <zenmonk> apt-cache does not show version information though
[11:17] <vinicri> 744?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> zenmonk: apt-cache policy app
[11:18] <django_> you won't change the perms
[11:18] <skeff> gnomefreak, mwe, I'm impressed my ubuntu can show those signs at all.. all the way from xchat, thru gaim to opera!
[11:18] <jk_> Gixbit, i take it this hang happens almost straight away . as after testing my cd a momemnt ago my list of options appears starght away
[11:18] <zenmonk> ok, policy did it
[11:18] <mwe> skeff: it's unicode, so 
[11:18] <jk_> typos sorry
[11:18] <gnomefreak> its katakana
[11:18] <Gixbit> jk_: it gives me options like start/install kubuntu so i press enter
[11:18] <mwe> skeff: I think windows can as well
[11:19] <holycow> is today some sort of release  ... all the servers seem hammered
[11:19] <gnomefreak> 
[11:19] <zenmonk> what is the relationship between apt and the apt-get, etc, and synaptic and aptitude?
[11:19] <Gixbit> jk_: then it loads drivers and after it's done it stops
[11:19] <gnomefreak> 
[11:19] <vinicri> i'll google bout windows perms.. could u suggest me a irc client
[11:19] <jk_> did you try start text install?
[11:19] <vinicri> for ubuntu
[11:19] <gnomefreak> 
[11:19] <mwe> gnomefreak: did you bind it to a key combo though?
[11:19] <aStRaLgOd> Hello :) Guys I was wondering if anyone knew how to, in the console, display your current xorg version?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> one of these is it
[11:19] <gnomefreak> no
[11:19] <jk_> diGixbit d you try start text install?
[11:19] <django_> vinicri, irssi or xchat for X
[11:19] <Gixbit> jk_: i removed splash and still
[11:20] <TheGateKeeper> zenmonk: Synaptic is GUI that use apt-get, aptitude does the same in the cli
[11:20] <ofer0> aStRaLgOd, Xorg -version
[11:20] <ofer0> aStRaLgOd, man Xorg next time.
[11:20] <jk_> Gixbit d you try start text install?
[11:20] <django_> zenmonk, the latter 2 are frontends for the former
[11:20] <Mancunian> h'
[11:20] <ofer0> aStRaLgOd, AKA RTFM
[11:20] <aStRaLgOd> okay thanks
[11:20] <Gixbit> jk_: do you have to start it from the command line?
[11:20] <zenmonk> is apt-get, apt-cache, etc a part of what is called apt?
[11:20] <Gixbit> jk_: because if you do than that would exlpain why
[11:20] <ofer0> Seveas, what is wrong the friendly manual?
[11:20] <Seveas> zenmonk, correct
[11:20] <ofer0> Seveas, with the*
[11:21] <aStRaLgOd> huh, if I have xorg v7, why doesn't my ATi Radeon AiW card not work atm!? This troubles me....
[11:21] <django_> now open your apt wings and fly , little one
[11:21] <Seveas> ofer0, it's not what you mean and you know it. Don't try to be 'funny'
[11:21] <stephan21_> I Have this sound card Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor AU8810 Vortex Digital Audiio when plugged into the radio works fine but with headphones it choppu
[11:21] <aStRaLgOd> I thought gatos was integrated into v7
[11:21] <zenmonk> and deb packages don't even try to resolve dependancies themselves, right?
[11:21] <jk_> no it is an option from the opening screen . are you trying to install latest version?
[11:21] <ofer0> Seveas, I don't know what you mean, but that's what I meant.
[11:21] <stephan21_> anyone have any idea y only the headphone is choppy
[11:21] <zenmonk> b/c I heard that rpm packages used to try to resolve them, but now everyone uses another application to do so
[11:21] <Gixbit> jk_: yes 6.06 of the kubuntu
[11:22] <Seveas> zenmonk, packages specify dependencies, apt resolves them
[11:22] <mwe> Is there a command that can return the name of a uncode character?
[11:22] <aStRaLgOd> Okay I'll rephrase.... I'm trying to make my ATi Radeon 9600 Pro All in wonder work in 6.06. I heard that the gatos code got added to Xorg v7.0, and that seems to be what I have. Anyone knows how to get JUST TV-in with my card?
[11:22] <Seveas> mwe, gucharmap has a search function 
[11:22] <ompaul> ofer0, answer the question in detail or don't answer it at all, never say google it get a url
[11:22] <Gixbit> jk_: i get the boot screen and the option to install or start kubuntu but does nothing but hang after all the driver's have been loaded and detected etc.
[11:22] <Seveas> !gatos
[11:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:22] <zenmonk> Seveas: ok, ty for the clarification :)
[11:22] <jk_> Gixbit, ok when you load the disc after about 5 seconds you get a list of options which one do you choose?
[11:22] <mwe> Seveas: ok I'll try it
[11:23] <aStRaLgOd> ubotu: Please read my question completely
[11:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about Please read my question completely - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:23] <ofer0> ompaul, I answered the question, and suggested that next time he'll read the manual.
[11:23] <stephan21_> I Have this sound card Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor AU8810 Vortex Digital Audiio when plugged into the radio works fine but with headphones it choppu
[11:23] <Gixbit> jk_: the one to install/start kubuntu
[11:23] <dr_willis> aStRaLgOd,  im not sure the tv tuner/input is supported by ati at all under Linux.
[11:23] <mwe> I wonder why apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove kdelibs-bin. wont that break KDE?
[11:23] <stephan21_> anyone have any idea y only the headphone is choppy
[11:23] <Seveas> ubotu, tell aStRaLgOd about yourself
[11:23] <aStRaLgOd> lol oops
[11:23] <aStRaLgOd> he's a bot
[11:23] <chantra> hi, is anyone running a duo core proc here?
[11:23] <django_> Seveas, ahh :(
[11:23] <Seveas> 
[11:24] <django_> it was funny
[11:24] <aStRaLgOd> lawl
[11:24] <jk_> Gixbit, what hardware are you using please
[11:24] <aStRaLgOd> ubotu, please slide me a Coca Cola Clasic.
[11:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about please slide me a Coca Cola Clasic. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:24] <aStRaLgOd> meh
[11:24] <Seveas> !bot abuse > aStRaLgOd
[11:24] <ofer0> ompaul, ain't nothing wrong with that.
[11:24] <aStRaLgOd> sowwy sowwy thought it was funny
[11:25] <Seveas> !guidelines > ofer0
[11:25] <mitrovarr> heh... I was going to ask a question, but I fixed it myself before I got here
[11:25] <mitrovarr> whoops
[11:25] <ofer0> Seveas, I don't need help.
[11:25] <Seveas> mitrovarr, lol!
[11:25] <ofer0> Seveas, I'm here to help.
[11:25] <Seveas> ofer0, no you obviously need to read the guidelines
[11:25] <django_> mitrovarr, tell us the problem anyway and how you solved it
[11:25] <aStRaLgOd> mmmm Dangit.... I want my TV card to work.... this blows :'(
[11:25] <ompaul> ofer0, then rather than suggesting that, perhaps show where to find it - System ->  Help  -> System Documentation can be useful :-) ; those letters are not for use here, it is not how we do business :)
[11:26] <mitrovarr> problem - MS force feedback joystick doesn't work in ubuntu
[11:26] <mitrovarr> fix - modprobe joydev and sidewinder
[11:26] <dr_willis> aStRaLgOd,  may want to check out the MythTV forums/pages and what they say about that tuner card
[11:26] <django_> mitrovarr,  nice, see that helps me :)
[11:26] <Gixbit> jk_: i'm using the 64bit installer for kubuntu btw (3.0ghz intel processor 64-bit ht-technology it's a prescott, ATI radeo X800XL 256MB all-in-wonder, 3 harddrives 80gig SATA/80gig ata/120gig ata, 1cdrom drive supporting dvd read cdrom read/write)
[11:26] <django_> cool
[11:26] <mitrovarr> I swear I tried that before and had it not work before.  Maybe one of the new kernels fixed it
[11:26] <aStRaLgOd> dr_willis: I will, thanks, brb :)
[11:26] <ofer0> Seveas, I ANSWERED HIS QUESTION
[11:26] <Seveas> !shout
[11:26] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:26] <dr_willis> :)
[11:26] <ofer0> Seveas, you don't seem to understand lc.
[11:26] <mitrovarr> You see, I want to look into doing some art work or text work on vegastrike and I wanted the svn
[11:26] <django_> mitrovarr,  saves me looking myself later :)
[11:26] <ompaul> ofer0, stop being so defensive, read what I said, it is about how we do it,
[11:27] <ompaul> ofer0, stop being so defensive, read what I said, it is about how we do it,
[11:27] <django_> yipe
[11:27] <mitrovarr> but vegastrike, like any flight sim or mech game, is infinitely more fun with a joystike
[11:27] <mitrovarr> joystick
[11:27] <Seveas> django_, yipe's not here right now
[11:27] <mitrovarr> stupid autotype
[11:27] <django_> mitrovarr, agreed
[11:27] <Gixbit> jk_: i'm using the SATA to install kubuntu on, i unallocated some space to make it easier for me to install kubuntu on
[11:28] <mitrovarr> you tried vegastrike?  It's fun, although it's beta by a long shot
[11:28] <django_> mitrovarr, no, i assume it's a game. i had to take myself off them a while back :)
[11:28] <hbi> where does kismet save its data to by default?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> mitrovarr: can you please take django_ and talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <mitrovarr> no need, I was going to leave soon anyway
[11:28] <django_> take me?
[11:28] <mitrovarr> laters all
[11:29] <django_> you want me gone?
[11:29] <mitrovarr> they don't stand for off-topic here
[11:29] <Cau1> hello
[11:29] <vinicri> django, i'm  trying to install the irssi,  libs needed, so i tried to download them n' install gcc, gtk==
[11:29] <Cau1> i have a question
[11:29] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:29] <Cau1> can i pm anyone?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Cau1: ask in channel
[11:29] <mitrovarr> bye all
[11:29] <django_> django_, did you use apt? or synaptic?
[11:29] <Otacon22> I have 2 pc, and I want to ask you that if is possibile to do that I can see a work area in the 2^ pc
[11:29] <vinicri> n' so more libs were needes
[11:29] <ompaul> Cau1, ask the channel
[11:29] <aStRaLgOd> dr_willis: heh...... NOTE: The ATI All-in-Wonder cards (which are not the same as the ATI TV Wonder, TV Wonder VE or TV Wonder Pro) will not work as a MythTV capture device because the GATOS http://gatos.sourceforge.net drivers that are available provide only a limited subset of the V4L API.
[11:29] <Seveas> vinicri, just install the irssi package...
[11:29] <shwag> rsync error 23  Partial transfer due to error ... but i have no idea why.
[11:29] <gnomefreak> vinicri: sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[11:29] <vinicri> any way to get themit by apt-get
[11:29] <jk_> Gixbit,  the reason i ask is because the cd you have must hang because of a hardware problem . maybe it is because of the sata , i used to have a lot of problems with my sata sil drivers but now they work ok . did you try installing on the ata drive
[11:29] <django_> vinicri,  you use apt? or synaptic?
[11:29] <hbi> does any1 know where kismet defaultly saves its data?
[11:30] <vinicri> ok
[11:30] <Seveas> !anyone > Cau1
[11:30] <ofer0> gnomefreak, I've never flooded the channel, didn't use any public away messages, didn't repeat my questions, didn't abuse the bot, didn't talk in any laungage other than English, never sweared anyone, didn't bring any bots or asked for operator privs. I just answered someone's question and then told him where to look next time.
[11:30] <django_> vinicri, yeah what he said, package is always best
[11:30] <Cau1> i have a slave HDD with movies and stuff, but it does not show in ubuntu, is there a way to view and read from and to it?
[11:30] <django_> vinicri, all dependencies installed and easy to uninstall/update
[11:30] <Seveas> Cau1, is it a windoes drive (fat/ntfs)?
[11:30] <Gixbit> jk_: you don't understand, I don't even get to install, all i get is the drivers are loaded ok and then it stops
[11:30] <Cau1> ntfs
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ofer0: your in the wrong channel to dispute it and your not listening to what people are saying no drop it read the docs
[11:30] <Seveas> !ntfs > Cau1
[11:31] <ompaul> ofer0, then rather than suggesting that, perhaps show where to find it - System ->  Help  -> System Documentation can be useful :-) ; those letters are not for use here, it is not how we do business :) :: now can we please leave this subject alone or message me for a fuller explaination
[11:31] <Cau1> !ntfs
[11:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:31] <django_> where's the guy with the ntfs problem?
[11:31] <ttyfscker> new shots up for anyone interested in checking out my xubuntu desktop
[11:31] <Gixbit> jk_: i get a prompt asking for maybe some commands i get nothing else
[11:31] <django_> i want him to tell me he couldn't change the perms
[11:31] <ttyfscker> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=512
[11:31] <azureal> hi, i was wondering how i'd go about adding transparency to everything?
[11:31] <Seveas> Cau1, ubotu sent you a message
[11:31] <Gixbit> jk_: when i used the splash all it gave me was the kubuntu logo after awhile
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: -offtopic please
[11:31] <Seveas> azureal, install xgl+compiz
[11:31] <hbi> so no1 knows?
[11:31] <jk_> Gixbit, if you type a letter any letter then tab do yo get many options?
[11:31] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: sorry.. just a couple words..
[11:32] <gnomefreak> did Seveas just suggest that?
[11:32] <azureal> seveas: is that one package, or two
[11:32] <vinicri> sudo apt-get install irssi-text???
[11:32] <gnomefreak> vinicri: yes
[11:32] <gnomefreak> 1
[11:32] <azureal> seveas: also, will this allow me to add transparency to .. idk.. gkrellm, firefox...etc
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: it doesnt belong in here at all it causes people to get into offtopic chats
[11:32] <ompaul> azureal, the support for xgl is in the channel #ubuntu-xgl it is beta
[11:32] <Seveas> yes, transparency everywhere
[11:32] <vinicri> no package found
[11:32] <Gixbit> jk_: yea
[11:32] <Seveas> !xgl > azureal
[11:32] <PoKs> hola!
[11:32] <Seveas> !es
[11:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:32] <Gixbit> jk_: like 500+
[11:32] <PoKs> hi!
[11:32] <PoKs> xD
[11:33] <azureal> rofl
[11:33] <jk_> Gixbit, but startx does not work?
[11:33] <Gixbit> jk_: i've said before i need to update apt-get and download the fglrx
[11:33] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: people talkin about xgl and transparency.. i thought i would show my desktop as a reference
[11:33] <ttyfscker> sorry
[11:33] <Gixbit> jk_: but the GUI will work if i do that
[11:33] <vinicri> no package found
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: they are not talking about it
[11:33] <jk_> can you brows the cd ?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: Seveas is giving the person support
[11:34] <azureal> seveas: this stuff will work in fluxbox...?
[11:34] <Gixbit> jk_: if i knew how
[11:34] <Seveas> azureal, no
[11:34] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: it appears we're making more offtopic rant now ;)
[11:34] <Gixbit> jk_: i havent done any of this in over a year because of this exact reason
[11:34] <gnomefreak> 10 mins ttyfscker
[11:34] <ompaul> azureal, please go to #ubuntu-xgl you will get suppor for it there
[11:34] <azureal> seveas: i dont want a new window manager.. looks like xgl is its own server?
[11:35] <jk_> ls /cdrom
[11:35] <vinicri> sudo apt-get install irssi-text??? .. no packarge found
[11:35] <azureal> ompaul: fine! kick me away...
[11:35] <Seveas> azureal, correct -- but it's the only way to get real transparency
[11:35] <jk_> Gixbit type slocate cdrom
[11:35] <azureal> haha
[11:35] <ompaul> azureal, ... that is not the object of the exercise - ask again and I will do more than that
[11:35] <django_> real transparency is too expensive for my tastes, esp. if you are resource conscious enough to use flux
[11:35] <Gixbit> jk_: done
[11:36] <Cau1> If the system has multiple hard disk drives, multiple lists will be displayed.
[11:36] <Cau1> this is not the case here
[11:36] <Cau1> i have 2 HDD
[11:36] <jk_> Gixbit, is it there?
[11:36] <Cau1> it only shows one
[11:36] <Cau1> if i type the fdisk thing
[11:36] <Gixbit> jk_: it show's folders
[11:36] <Gixbit> jk_: /usr/ and /lib/
[11:36] <azureal> ompaul: ah, well i thought i was a lot less rude than some of the others how have been kicked
[11:36] <ofer0> ompaul, I don't know the GNOME GUI, I'm helping using what I know. I don't understand what is your problem. He didn't just ask a question and my answer was "RTFM". I've answered his question, told him where to look for more details, and then told him to read the fine/funny/fabulous/friendly manual. RTFM = "You can find the answer to your question in 10 seconds if you just RTFM", and yes, it is a recursive acronym.
[11:36] <azureal> ompaul: plus, i _was_ sarcasticc
[11:37] <azureal> who*
[11:37] <ompaul> ofer0, (a) I asked you to pm (B) we NEVER say rtfm here - full stop thanks
[11:37] <luka> hi, I search a good document r XGL and Ubuntu Dapper that works, I saw many pages in ubuntuforums and ubuntu wiki but they don't work correcty
[11:37] <Cau1> hm
[11:37] <Cau1> sorry
[11:37] <ompaul> !xgl
[11:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:38] <django_> Seveas, could i ask why you never retain your op status? is it like not staying root and using sudo, the ubuntu way?
[11:38] <ompaul> *** please note that xgl is dealt with in #ubuntu-xgl it is not in the supported distro
[11:38] <Seveas> django_, sort of
[11:38] <azureal> ok
[11:38] <jk_> Gixbit, sorry but you wouldnt believe this but my baby just fell out of bed ... had to run upstairs .. will be right back . sorry
[11:38] <Cau1> Seveas: if i do exactly is it says, it doesnt give my 2 HDD's but only the one where ubuntu is installed on
[11:38] <django_> Seveas, ok
[11:38] <azureal> ompaul: but i'm not sure if that is the solution i'm looking for if it's !fluxbox
[11:39] <Gixbit> jk_: i'm going to start a private chat with you because i dont like all the other things going on
[11:39] <acheron> hello.
[11:40] <Lobster> n8
[11:40] <jk_> Gixbit, ok
[11:41] <nikin_> ok i leaned a lot about UMASK, and now i know how to do what i want
[11:41] <django_> nikin_, cool!
[11:41] <django_> nikin_, heh
[11:41] <BioVorE> gg.. rtfm ftw
[11:41] <nikin_> just 1 question remains
[11:41] <nikin_> a
[11:41] <vinicri> client for torrents or edonkey?
[11:41] <Cau1> someone help me, my 2nd HDD does not show even if i follow the !ntfs
[11:41] <Cau1> any ideas?
[11:41] <eternaljoy> im having probs updating from ubuntu servers!  are they down?
[11:42] <nikin_> if i set both in the conf file and the user is setting its own, wich one will be prefered
[11:42] <Seveas> vinicri, mldonkey, azureus
[11:42] <userundefine> Cau1, have you mounted the drive?
[11:42] <danf_1979> Program to setup a server: Apache2 with mode_evasive, mod_security, mod_defalte, a chrooted openssh server, chrooted bind9, proftpd with some customization, mysql 5 with utf8 support, php5, webalizer, courier-pop3, courier-imap, postfix with smtp-auth and tls support, rootkits scanners rkhunter and chkrootkit, denyhosts 2.0,  and some other goodies
[11:42] <django_> nikin_, i think the conf one
[11:42] <danf_1979> here is the description http://www.mundowebhosting.com/forums/topic.php?id=3
[11:42] <django_> nikin_, but i couldn't promise
[11:42] <nikin_> django: then everything is ok :D:D:D:D
[11:42] <Cau1> im trying to but if it doesnt show in the fdisk command i cant mount it
[11:43] <django_> nikin_, cool, it's much easier to get someone to read about umask than to explain it :)
[11:43] <kingrayray> is one of the repos down/bogged or something?
[11:43] <nikin_> yup
[11:43] <Seveas> kingrayray, bw issues
[11:43] <userundefine> Cau1, you can't fdisk /dev/*hddname* and bring up the stats?  What are you typing in?
[11:43] <kingrayray> figured as much, thanks :-)
[11:43] <django_> god don't tell me someone is ddosing it ...
[11:44] <django_> bill!!!
[11:44] <kingrayray> hope not
[11:44] <Cau1> for i in /dev/[hs] d[a-z] ; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done
[11:44] <Seveas> !reposdown is <reply> There are bandwith issues causing problems with security.ubuntu.com (and sometimes archive.u.c) -- please use a mirror
[11:44] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[11:44] <mnk> hi all. i have got dapper and apply all the updates, but for some odd reason all my applications seem to just crash for no apparent reason - ie randomly at different times. i use gaim, thunderbird, firefox, openoffice - they just crash at different times for no reason. can someone help me pls? it is getting rather frustrating AND embarassing in front of windows users!!!!
[11:44] <Seveas> mnk, you should check your memory...
[11:44] <userundefine> Cau1, and what's the output after that?
[11:45] <dr_willis> mnk,  run them from a terminal - see if you can see any error messages.. and check the output of the 'dmesg' command.
[11:45] <Cau1> Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
[11:45] <Cau1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
[11:45] <Cau1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:45] <Seveas> Cau1, please use a pastebin
[11:45] <django_> mnk, almost sounds like a job for ltrace
[11:45] <Seveas> !pastebin > Cau1
[11:45] <mnk> Seveas, my memory is ok cos nothing goes wrong on windows like that; plus this started happening only after applying some updates ages ago
[11:45] <Cau1> !pastebin
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:45] <zenit> mnk: I would still give memtest86 a spin, if I were you.
[11:46] <aStRaLgOd> lol k this is odd.... I install XawTV, start it, and POOF, screen goes black lol
[11:46] <userundefine> Cau1, so is that your windows hdd or what you've got linux on?
[11:46] <mnk> [17195827.128000]  cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[11:46] <shwag> If a machine hits 40 load average, I think the default should be for the system to log the procs with 99% cpu usage to the messages file.
[11:46] <userundefine> !ntfs > userundefine
[11:46] <mnk> django_, how do i use ltrace?
[11:46] <Cau1> userundefine: its a windows hdd
[11:47] <mnk> zenit, just run memtest86 like that?
[11:47] <Cau1> well
[11:47] <dcnstrct> for some reason when I use apt-get I see this error: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80; any ideas what I should do ?
[11:47] <Cau1> windows is not on it
[11:47] <Seveas> !reposdown > dcnstrct
[11:47] <django_> mnk, well at the risk of being kicked, it's easy to read it's manpage... basically ltrace <application>
[11:47] <Cau1> windows is on the same HDD as linux, only another partition
[11:47] <Cau1> but its formatted as ntfs
[11:47] <zenit> mnk: yeah, either from floppy or a boot-cd. Let it run overnight and see what happens.
[11:47] <mnk> django_, it is lots of applications - not just one
[11:47] <Vladaz> hello again:D
[11:47] <mnk> z
[11:47] <Vladaz> has anyone tried to install GTA Vice City on Linux?
[11:47] <dravas> umm
[11:47] <userundefine> Cau1, ah.  use pastebin to output the result of "cat /etc/fstab"
[11:47] <dravas> I cant install VLC
[11:48] <Gixbit> jk_: can you see the chat?
[11:48] <django_> mnk, yeah, but you can find out where it's stopping the apps at
[11:48] <userundefine> Cau1, brb
[11:48] <sandy> hi
[11:48] <django_> mnk, narrow it down a fair bit anyway
[11:48] <Vladaz> has anyone tried to install GTA Vice City on Linux?
[11:48] <mnk> zenit, just run memtest86 like that - i only have memtest?
[11:48] <dr_willis> Vladaz,  played it with Cedega
[11:48] <mnk> zenit, not memtest86
[11:48] <Vladaz> where can i get cedega packages?
[11:48] <Shrew> Heya. I'm planning on instlling Ubuntu and I was wondering if it came as standard with ndiswrapper or if I'd need to download that?
[11:48] <Vladaz> i know it's some kind of illegal
[11:48] <mnk> ok django_ thanks - i willt ry that too
[11:48] <Vladaz> :D
[11:48] <Vladaz> but do you know any ftp
[11:48] <Vladaz> or smth?
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> dravas: need to enable universe
[11:48] <tamale> what's the quickest, lightest  Desktop  i can install on a new server install of dapper ?  and how would i get it?
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > dravas
[11:49] <django_> tamale, in my opinion the lightest *usable* wm would be fluxbox
[11:49] <libuntu> hello
[11:49] <Seveas> tamale, apt-get install x-window-system-core fluxbox
[11:49] <django_> tamale, others will disagree
[11:49] <Cau1> userundefine: i pasted it, it should have 3 more partitions, totalling 400 GB
[11:49] <Seveas> or ig you want really light, but much less usable: twm
[11:49] <tamale> i love fluxbox
[11:49] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:49] <harisund> tamale if you are looking merely for a window manager, you could use fluxbox or something .. but if you want a light weight full fledged desktop environment you could use xfce.
[11:49] <mwe> wont removing kdelibs-bin hose KDE?
[11:49] <Vladaz> hmm
[11:49] <zenit> mnk: sorry, I'm not following you. What do you mean with like that? English is not my native language.
[11:49] <LeeJunFan> anyone got any suggestions on NTFS repair from linux other than ntfsfix from ntfstools?
[11:50] <eternaljoy> I love ya all
[11:50] <Vladaz> Sveas whats wrong?
[11:50] <tamale> fluxbox will give me enough for things like wine to work, right?
[11:50] <Vladaz> *Seveas
[11:50] <django_> Seveas, no not twm!
[11:50] <Seveas> Vladaz, illegal activities are not tolerated in here
[11:50] <mnk> zenit, i don't have memtest86, i only have memtest. how do i run it?
[11:50] <django_> tamale, yep
[11:50] <harisund> offtopic I know, but what does <!> mode /#ubuntu +0 Seveas by Chanserv mean?
[11:50] <Vladaz> is cedega illegal?
[11:50] <Seveas> Vladaz, not paying for it is illegal...
[11:50] <dr_willis> Cedega is comercial..
[11:50] <bagoor> Vladaz, no
[11:50] <Shrew> I'm planning on instlling Ubuntu and I was wondering if it came as standard with ndiswrapper or if I'd need to download that?
[11:50] <tamale> so all i need is x-window-system-core   and fluxbox?
[11:50] <django_> tamale, what is the system you are going to be using, btw?
[11:50] <tamale> wow that's easy  :] 
[11:50] <FuriousRage> how much does cedega cost?
[11:50] <harisund> Shrew are you sure you need ndiswrapper for your wireless card?
[11:50] <dr_willis> Wine may be able to handle GTA:VC.
[11:50] <Seveas> !cedega > FuriousRage
[11:51] <tamale> django_:  what do you mean
[11:51] <Vladaz> so wine is alright as well?
[11:51] <sandy> hi
[11:51] <Vladaz> ok thanks:)
[11:51] <Seveas> Shrew, iirc it's on the cs
[11:51] <Seveas> cd*
[11:51] <django_> tamale, what computer?
[11:51] <django_> tamale, i was wondering how slow/old it was
[11:51] <Vladaz> but am i going to see any difference between wine and cedega?
[11:51] <Seveas> django_, twm is great if you're a bit masochistic
[11:51] <Shrew> Well, I've currently got Mandriva installed and it doesn't recognise it; the thing is it's outdated and thought a change of OS would be just as welcome as a change of version
[11:51] <zenit> mnk: I have no idea, I only have experience with memtest86. It's free, and available on some rescue cd's too.
[11:51] <tamale> django_:  It's a dual pentium III  1ghz  1U rackmount computer
[11:51] <django_> Seveas, can really traumatize a newbie though
[11:51] <luka> for XGL i do from !xgl but I get this error, any body know whitch mean:  compiz.real: No composite extension
[11:51] <tamale> django:  It doesn't have a dedicated graphics chip
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <sandy> airzer0
[11:51] <Vladaz> but am i going to see any difference between wine and cedega?
[11:51] <libuntu> sorry i have a little problem with using a dualhead gfx card and two tfts, could i ask here in the channel?
[11:51] <django_> tamale, flux will fly
[11:51] <mnk> zenit, i tried sudo apt-get install memtest86 - it says no package
[11:52] <Seveas> django_, to me it was a revelation when I first learned of it. sooo much more snappy than cde on old crappy sun machines ;)
[11:52] <zenit> mnk: you don't run it inside your os, you boot from a floppy or cd with it on.
[11:52] <azureal> seveas: #fluxbox was a useful channel as well =)
[11:52] <Vladaz> anyone?
[11:52] <mnk> zenit, oh i c ok thanks
[11:52] <eternaljoy> brb going to break my fast, hence BREAKFAST
[11:52] <django_> Seveas, ahaha for sure
[11:52] <django_> common desk top my ...
[11:52] <mnk> ok thanks
[11:52] <mnk> let me try that
[11:52] <luka> compiz.real: No composite extension
[11:52] <tamale> django_:  Last question - how hard will it be to get VNC to work?  I'll want to be able to control the desktop remotely on this machine.
[11:53] <Seveas> luka, then you need proper drivers
[11:53] <Kgee> vnc is a piece of cake, tamale
[11:53] <Seveas> !gl > luka
[11:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about gl  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:53] <Seveas> !xgl > luka
[11:53] <django_> tamale, should be very easy, if all the firewall/network issues are good
[11:53] <FuriousRage> how come they charge for cedega when you can use their CVS for free? do they charge for the actually compile ?
[11:53] <dcnstrct> I added a deb and deb-src entry for a mirror to my /etc/apt/sources.list;  What else do I need to do to use a mirror ? do I need to comment out the other ones ? thanks.
[11:53] <Zambezi> I'm trying to connect to a FTP with SSL, but it says it's not working. Anyone who need the command to force SSL?
[11:53] <dr_willis> FuriousRage,  read all about it on the cedega homepage.
[11:53] <dr_willis> :P
[11:53] <Seveas> Zambezi, which ftp client?
[11:54] <stevea_> Does anyone know how I can fix my monitor resolution? My screen flickers white at 1280x1024 but not at anything lower...
[11:54] <Zambezi> Seveas, Modified gftp-text.
[11:54] <luka> Seveas, I saw that page and do every thing from that, I have Intel i8*
[11:54] <django_> tamale, and i don't know if it is still as good as it was, but tightVNC was a lot less hungry than VNC
[11:54] <libuntu> i am using matrox G450 and two tfts, the two screens are working, but only one with 1600x1200
[11:54] <libuntu> the other not
[11:54] <django_> tamale, like uses less resources
[11:54] <Seveas> Zambezi, did you enable ssl during ./configure?
[11:54] <Zambezi> Seveas, But I can use any client as long as I can connect with Implicit SSL.
[11:54] <tamale> django:  I'll try that
[11:55] <sally2> what's the command upgrade to kernel 2.6.17?
[11:55] <Seveas> sally2, 2.6.17 is only available in edgy
[11:55] <sally2> i see
[11:55] <Zambezi> Seveas, I installed it with dpkg I think, so I'm not sure that's containg, but SSL should work says the developer (read the modifier)
[11:55] <jk_> I hate it when i cant help
[11:55] <zenit> libuntu: are your sure your card supports the same resolution on both screens? I think my old G400 didn't.
[11:56] <libuntu> hmm zenit
[11:56] <rcmiv> hey! anyone know how to change the resolution in gdm login screen?
[11:56] <libuntu> i think since one hour the same but i don't know
[11:56] <Seveas> Zambezi, in ubuntu ssl is disabled by default -- if you install a package from seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas then you'll have an ssl-enabled version
[11:56] <Corvix> im getting a syntax error before _X_SENTINEL when trying to compile an X prog ... in the file Xlib.h and Intrinsic.h anyone got some idea how to solve this?
[11:56] <nixbox> hi all
[11:56] <zenit> libuntu: I would check some specs if I were you. Afaik the secondary ramdac isn't as good as the primary one.
[11:57] <django_> at least ubuntu got the name for the testing releases right .. edgy as opposed to 'sarge' etc
[11:57] <nixbox> whats the name of kernel sources package?
[11:57] <libuntu> zenit: thx for this information, i will search at google
[11:57] <Seveas> nixbox, linux-source-2.6.15 (on dapper)
[11:57] <^MasteR^-> any swedish people here who have a litle bit time over?
[11:57] <tamale> I just upgraded my kernel to  2.6.15-26-686   ---   does this kernel automatically decide if i need SMP support too?
[11:57] <Seveas> tamale, it does
[11:57] <dr_willis> django_,  thats just the name of the next release.. :P thats curently in testing.
[11:58] <Seveas> SMP is disabled during boot if you don't have multiple processors
[11:58] <tamale> I do have multiple processors
[11:58] <Cau1> ill come back later when its not this busy
[11:58] <Seveas> tamale, then it won't disable SMP, check /proc/cpuinfo
[11:58] <django_> dr_willis, ah gotcha
[11:58] <tamale> i thought you needed a special SMP kernel
[11:58] <tamale> i'll check
[11:59] <Seveas> tamale, not on Ubuntu -- all kernels except the -386 one support SMP
[11:59] <dr_willis> django_,  so it will still be called 'edgy' when its released... and obsolete 6 mo later. :P
[11:59] <django_> dr_willis, haha so it was all a happy coincidence
[11:59] <tamale> Seveas - Sweet!
[11:59] <march> hi@all
[11:59] <django_> the chaos will again rule
[11:59] <userundefine> Cau1, it's always this busy
[11:59] <harisund> dr_willis does it mean currently on #ubuntu+1 edgy is being discussed?
[11:59] <Seveas> harisund, correct
[11:59] <django_> this is less busy than it's been for a long while
[12:00] <dr_willis> django_,  well the 'plan' is to have the next release be really updated.. and theres supposed to be a lot of new changes..  but who knows..
[12:00] <dr_willis> !edgy
[12:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:00] <userundefine> Cau1, you have to give me the link if you want me to see what you pasted
[12:00] <dr_willis> harisund,  Bingo.! :P
[12:00] <Cau1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19637
[12:00] <django_> dr_willis, i hate to say this .. but i wish it were easier to upgrade to new releases with linux, a la fbsd
[12:00] <harisund> hehe .. I used to spend quite some time just before Dapper was released on #ubuntu+1
[12:00] <dcnstrct> Whats a good mirror to use for the US ?  I've tried 2 of them and sofar they both can't find the package I need to install (ant)
[12:00] <harisund> django_ what problem did you have upgrading?
[12:00] <Seveas> !info ant dapper
[12:00] <ubotu> ant: Java based build tool like make. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.6.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 1200 kB