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| cbx33 | mhz, pong | 12:25 |
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| mhz | cbx33: hey, is AliasVegas around? | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | 2 secs | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | she is but sh'es afk | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | what d'ya need | 12:27 |
| mhz | cbx33: I want to submit a ccouple of wallpapers to edubuntu | 12:34 |
| mhz | I have tried a.u.c but it is not possible | 12:34 |
| cbx33 | a.u.c ? | 12:36 |
| cbx33 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuArtwork/Worksheet | 12:36 |
| cbx33 | add them to the bottom of there | 12:36 |
| HedgeMage | LaserJock: pong... still around? | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | HedgeMage: nevermind, sorry. IRC problem | 12:51 |
| HedgeMage | np | 12:54 |
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| LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 02:03 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: bzr branch http://dev.realistanew.com/gallium--tw | 02:05 |
| jsgotangco | tw? | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | that's Amaranth | 02:06 |
| jsgotangco | there's a project called gallium btw | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | what? bummer | 02:06 |
| jsgotangco | Gallium is intended to provide a free (licensed under the GNU LGPL), | 02:06 |
| jsgotangco | portable and API-compatible Carbon* emulator for the X Window System. | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | hmm, we'll just have to call ours gallium-ng ;-) | 02:07 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock: I recommend Periodicum, which is latin for periodic | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | hmm, that's a little long, but I like the idea | 02:07 |
| Burgundavia | I believe Periodica is esperanto for the same thing | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: anyway, run python table.py | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: that's maybe better | 02:08 |
| jsgotangco | ok branching | 02:08 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock: you are going to need to split out the kalzium package, so it can be installed with all the qt-crap^WWWfluff | 02:09 |
| LaserJock | why do we need kalzium? | 02:09 |
| Burgundavia | are you not using their data? | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | sure, it's an .xml file | 02:10 |
| jsgotangco | the table clipped | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | yeah, you gotta drag it out | 02:10 |
| jsgotangco | it doesnt render beyond element 103 yet | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | oh wait | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | it just did | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | oh i just noticed it uses cairo | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | anyway, that's development, day 1 | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | or so | 02:15 |
| Amaranth | more or less 24 hours after i started i ended up with that :) | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | and if lucasvo wasn't so pick with the arrows we could have gotten farther ;-) | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | *picky | 02:16 |
| Amaranth | btw, pull again and it sets the window size correctly | 02:17 |
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| jsgotangco | ahh that's very nice | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | Elements object is EVIL? | 02:22 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | we picked that up from Kalzium I believe | 02:23 |
| Amaranth | jsgotangco: the position table | 02:23 |
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| Amaranth | No one is allowed to edit it without me killing them with a spoon. :) | 02:24 |
| Amaranth | element_pos_table is 111 (!) column, row sets used for positioning the elements on the periodic table | 02:24 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 02:51 |
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| Amaranth | hrm, i think willowng got lost on it's way to the repos | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Stuck in NEW? | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | I thought it got past NEW | 03:51 |
| bddebian | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=willow | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 03:53 |
| Amaranth | it built fine | 04:01 |
| Amaranth | yesterday | 04:01 |
| Amaranth | you can even get it from https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/234365 | 04:02 |
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| lecaros | hi guys | 04:51 |
| bddebian | Hello lecaros | 04:51 |
| lecaros | bddebian hi | 04:52 |
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| gromerotw | Hello there! | 06:11 |
| gromerotw | Hi! | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | hi gromerotw | 06:14 |
| gromerotw | Hello, hw are you doing? | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | fine, thanks | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | how about yourself? | 06:15 |
| gromerotw | Fine. Just trying to setup edubuntu but I got a lot of troubles. | 06:16 |
| gromerotw | Are you using edubuntu? | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | that's no fun | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | no | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | I mostly play around with Ubuntu | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | in general | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | I don't have an edubuntu install right now :( | 06:17 |
| gromerotw | Ubuntu and edubuntu are quite similar. | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | yes they are | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | especially if you do a workstation install of edubuntu | 06:19 |
| gromerotw | I have installed LTSP. It works fine. | 06:20 |
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| gromerotw | My problem is that I can get sound out of wavesurfer. | 06:20 |
| gromerotw | It's just using the server speaker. | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:21 |
| gromerotw | xmms is working fine on the client. | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | actually, you might get more help if you email the edubuntu-users mailing list | 06:22 |
| gromerotw | But I need something like wavesurfer or gnusound. | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | as none of the helpful people seem to be awake :( | 06:23 |
| gromerotw | Ok. Thank you. I will try. | 06:23 |
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| seshomaru | hello | 08:03 |
| seshomaru | can edubuntu thin clients boot from a wireless network? | 08:04 |
| Amaranth | I think that's up to your BIOS. | 08:05 |
| seshomaru | you mean the bios of the client? | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 08:06 |
| seshomaru | can i ask you another question? | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | I've never run Edubuntu but sure. :) | 08:06 |
| seshomaru | if the client doesnt have a harddisk, who detects the hardware? | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | I don't know enough about LTSP to answer, I would imagine the server. | 08:07 |
| seshomaru | when it boots? does the server detect the hardware? | 08:07 |
| seshomaru | i see | 08:07 |
| Amaranth | If you can use pxeboot with your wireless card it should work fine. | 08:08 |
| Amaranth | No hard drive needed, that's what it's called a thin-client. :) | 08:08 |
| Amaranth | err, that's why | 08:08 |
| seshomaru | is there somewhere i can get a list of hardware that supports linux (ubuntu...)? | 08:08 |
| seshomaru | i want to set many clients here but i'm afraid that their hardware is not supported because they are VERY old | 08:09 |
| jsgotangco | LTSP doesn't boot to a wireless network yet, AFAIK | 08:10 |
| seshomaru | i see | 08:10 |
| jsgotangco | it might be very slow if it does | 08:10 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco: no pxe chips for wireless cards? | 08:11 |
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| jsgotangco | i haven't heard of such at all | 08:11 |
| Burgundavia | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WirelessLTSPClientsUsingAnEthernetBridge | 08:11 |
| highvoltage | booting with wireless isn't quite supported yet | 08:12 |
| Burgundavia | even with a bootdisk? | 08:12 |
| seshomaru | highvoltage, wireless booting isn't supported in edubuntu or linux? | 08:13 |
| highvoltage | even with a bootdisk. | 08:13 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: unless, you can boot something that contains a linux kernel, and the modules for the card, which does't quit exist yet (pre-packaged and all) | 08:13 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | right | 08:14 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: what's the URL of your company btw (with the kiosk images) | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage: kiosk images? | 08:14 |
| jsgotangco | pictures i mean | 08:15 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: it's not on our company website, but on the government agency I've been doing work for the last 3 weeks: http://www.digitaldoorway.co.za | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | right thanks | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage: is that a 441 | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | im doing a presentation for my future boss | 08:15 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: it was | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | it was | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | the 441 has been discontinued | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | so now they run Ubuntu + Xfce + a very modified Ubuntu LTSP | 08:16 |
| seshomaru | people , i would like to set up edubuntu in my school, is there anyone here who set up edubuntu before? | 08:16 |
| Burgundavia | ah, shame about Userful | 08:16 |
| Burgundavia | s multiseat stuff not being OSS | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | seshomaru: sure :) | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: how so, what happened to Userful? | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | aah, yes | 08:17 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage: what do you mean? I still work for them | 08:17 |
| seshomaru | highvoltage, can i ask you , how much control does the server have over individual clients? | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: no, i just saw 08:16 < Burgundavia> ah, shame about Userful | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | and wondered what you meant | 08:17 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage: read both lines together, hit enter too soon | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | seshomaru: you can specify which drivers and settings each machine has, but otherwise not much yet | 08:18 |
| seshomaru | highvoltage, i mean can i have each client to have different options, one with firefox and gimp one with just games? | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | seshomaru: ogra is working on a control panel for the server that would give you more control over the desktops, it's planned for a future version of edubuntu | 08:18 |
| seshomaru | highvoltage, what is the situation like at the moment? | 08:19 |
| Burgundavia | seshomaru: if you have python skills, help is always sought | 08:19 |
| seshomaru | Burgundavia, i'm afraid i'm not much use with python..... | 08:19 |
| Burgundavia | right | 08:20 |
| seshomaru | another question - i have a server with 1G memory , can i boot 14 clients? | 08:20 |
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| seshomaru | you guys are there? | 08:24 |
| bimberi | !eduhw | 08:24 |
| ubotu | eduhardware is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/HardwareRequirements | 08:24 |
| bimberi | seshomaru: from that page - "256MB for the system and 128MB per user if they use office applications and a web browser" | 08:25 |
| seshomaru | bimberi, thanks, i cant open that site..... | 08:25 |
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| seshomaru | last question , can the clients in edubuntu share files on the server? | 08:31 |
| seshomaru | gotta go,,,,catch you guys later,,,, | 08:33 |
| bimberi | seshomaru: yes | 08:33 |
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| highvoltage | Burgwork: ping! | 10:19 |
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| cbx33 | woohoo | 11:21 |
| cbx33 | finally I can connect with my gprs phone | 11:21 |
| cbx33 | now I just need cheep calls | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | right I'm off...back soon with a proper connection :D | 11:22 |
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| FiberOptics | hi cbx33 | 11:26 |
| FiberOptics | wb | 11:26 |
| cbx33 | Hi FiberOptics | 11:26 |
| cbx33 | ping highvoltage | 11:26 |
| FiberOptics | what? | 11:26 |
| FiberOptics | * Ping reply from highvoltage: 1.00 second(s) | 11:27 |
| FiberOptics | ;p | 11:27 |
| cbx33 | FiberOptics, we use that to tell someone we wanna speak to them | 11:27 |
| FiberOptics | pardon? | 11:29 |
| FiberOptics | cbx33: what do you use? :/ | 11:31 |
| cbx33 | FiberOptics, when I said ping highvoltage | 11:31 |
| FiberOptics | yes | 11:31 |
| FiberOptics | i thought you meant for me to ping highvoltage lol | 11:32 |
| FiberOptics | :p | 11:32 |
| FiberOptics | sorry | 11:32 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: send me your physical or postal address | 11:32 |
| highvoltage | (by e-mail, preferably) | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | ok | 11:33 |
| FiberOptics | can someone help me, it's nice and quiet here, i can't keep up in #ubuntu | 11:33 |
| FiberOptics | i'm needing to install ubuntu alongside windows | 11:33 |
| cbx33 | FiberOptics, what's the issue | 11:33 |
| FiberOptics | but i went into the installation yesterday, and didnt know how-to deal with partitioning so i quit it | 11:34 |
| FiberOptics | i don't want to touch windows files | 11:34 |
| FiberOptics | is that possible? | 11:34 |
| cbx33 | it depends | 11:36 |
| cbx33 | do you have free space on that disk. | 11:36 |
| cbx33 | IE space that isn't currently assigned to a partition? | 11:37 |
| FiberOptics | I have C: and D: on here now | 11:37 |
| FiberOptics | Would it be better if I went onto ubuntu to view the partitions? | 11:37 |
| FiberOptics | I cant see them on windows | 11:37 |
| cbx33 | no it's ok | 11:38 |
| cbx33 | but yes you can see them | 11:38 |
| cbx33 | do you got windows xp? | 11:38 |
| FiberOptics | yep | 11:40 |
| FiberOptics | xp home | 11:40 |
| cbx33 | ok | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | right click on my computer | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | and goto manage | 11:41 |
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| FiberOptics | ok | 11:43 |
| FiberOptics | am there | 11:43 |
| cbx33 | ok you sohuld see disk manager some where? | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | or manage disks? | 11:44 |
| FiberOptics | disk management? | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | yes | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | that's the one | 11:45 |
| FiberOptics | ok | 11:46 |
| FiberOptics | Recovery Partition | 11:46 |
| FiberOptics | Vaio (C:) | 11:47 |
| FiberOptics | Vaio (D:) | 11:47 |
| FiberOptics | I think Windows is on Vaio (C:) becuase next to it it says "Healthy (System" | 11:47 |
| FiberOptics | )"* | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | ok | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | underneath that | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | it should have some bars | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | which are equvilent to your disks | 11:48 |
| FiberOptics | yuo | 11:48 |
| FiberOptics | yup* | 11:48 |
| FiberOptics | got that | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | ok basically....can you see if the partition use up all the space on the disk? | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | basically add up the sizes | 11:49 |
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| FiberOptics | it takes up 74.53GB | 11:52 |
| FiberOptics | so thats all of it i think | 11:52 |
| FiberOptics | or close to it | 11:52 |
| FiberOptics | HDD: 80GB | 11:52 |
| FiberOptics | so 6Gb free | 11:52 |
| wvdl | Hi folks. new kids on the canonical block. Going to be working with RichEd on the NEPAD thing | 11:53 |
| cbx33 | hi wvdl | 11:53 |
| cbx33 | FiberOptics, ok, by the looks of things | 11:54 |
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| FiberOptics | =o | 11:55 |
| FiberOptics | cbx33: sorry about that, xchat closed, what did u say? | 11:55 |
| pygi | <cbx33> FiberOptics, ok, by the looks of things | 11:55 |
| FiberOptics | ty | 11:55 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 11:55 |
| cbx33 | pygi, edubuntu will resize the ntfs partition won;t it? | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | I've never installed it that way | 11:56 |
| FiberOptics | im gona do ubuntu | 11:56 |
| FiberOptics | would it be the same? | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | yes | 11:56 |
| FiberOptics | okay | 11:56 |
| pygi | cbx33, it should be able to | 11:56 |
| FiberOptics | but it should use the free space on it, it wont delete files right? | 11:56 |
| pygi | FiberOptics, w00t? edubuntu's better :) | 11:56 |
| pygi | FiberOptics, you have the Gparted, whatever: | 11:57 |
| pygi | :) | 11:57 |
| pygi | so resize :) | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 11:57 |
| FiberOptics | so now i'll switch to ubuntu right? | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | there is always an element of risk when playing with partitions | 11:57 |
| pygi | cbx33, especially NTFS =P | 11:58 |
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| cbx33 | indeed | 11:58 |
| FiberOptics | if i do bugger up, i can always restore right? | 11:58 |
| cbx33 | no | 11:59 |
| FiberOptics | =o | 11:59 |
| cbx33 | backup your data before you do anything | 11:59 |
| cbx33 | standard practise | 11:59 |
| FiberOptics | i mean my sony restore, not windows | 11:59 |
| FiberOptics | ill get my data somewhere | 11:59 |
| FiberOptics | safe | 11:59 |
| cbx33 | oh,....hmmm......you"should" be ble to | 12:00 |
| FiberOptics | ok | 12:00 |
| FiberOptics | dam this is risky | 12:00 |
| FiberOptics | ;o | 12:00 |
| FiberOptics | ill save my pictures and stuff, sod the music, can download that again | 12:01 |
| FiberOptics | leme switch to ubuntu | 12:01 |
| FiberOptics | brb | 12:01 |
| FiberOptics | where are the screen drivers saved in windows usually? | 12:02 |
| cbx33 | screen drivers? | 12:02 |
| cbx33 | download em from the net dude | 12:02 |
| FiberOptics | you can do that? | 12:03 |
| lucasvo | FiberOptics: you must. | 12:03 |
| pygi | bleh, lol :) | 12:03 |
| lucasvo | FiberOptics: windows driver aren't supported by linux | 12:03 |
| lucasvo | (but one can even get windows drivers from the net) | 12:04 |
| FiberOptics | lucasvo no, ubuntu is fine, its just when i come back to windows (..if i do) thats what im worried about | 12:04 |
| FiberOptics | because before when i went from ubuntu to windows, windows wouldnt use my screen | 12:04 |
| cbx33 | FiberOptics, that's windows' issue | 12:05 |
| cbx33 | not ubuntus | 12:05 |
| FiberOptics | yup | 12:06 |
| FiberOptics | brb | 12:06 |
| cbx33 | but getting the drivers from the net is your best bet | 12:06 |
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| FiberOptics | hi | 12:24 |
| FiberOptics | cbx33: now im on ubuntu | 12:24 |
| FiberOptics | hm | 12:26 |
| FiberOptics | cbx33 | 12:27 |
| FiberOptics | http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoa4.png | 12:27 |
| FiberOptics | thats my partitons | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | rodarvus, I received your mail | 12:29 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, thanks :) | 12:36 |
| cbx33 | :) | 12:37 |
| cbx33 | bbl | 12:39 |
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| guillermo | Hello | 01:04 |
| Signifer | hey | 01:06 |
| guillermo | Hello there! | 01:07 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 04:35 |
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| cbx33 | :( | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | hola Pete | 07:25 |
| === cbx33 is about to get a migrane | ||
| LaserJock | what? | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | noooo | 07:25 |
| cbx33 | hey LaserJock | 07:25 |
| cbx33 | yup | 07:25 |
| cbx33 | I have the vision defects right now | 07:25 |
| cbx33 | can't see the right side of my inbox | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: my grandmother had a really bad migrane that lasted for almost a month | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | she finally had to go to the hospital I think | 07:26 |
| cbx33 | yikes | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | but she is better now | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | the problem was the headache was so bad she couldn't sleep, and then lack of sleep made the headache keep going, etc. etc. | 07:27 |
| cbx33 | yikes | 07:27 |
| cbx33 | I can feel this one starting | 07:27 |
| cbx33 | :( | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: did you happen to see the latest gallium stuff? | 07:29 |
| cbx33 | no | 07:29 |
| cbx33 | is it fnished? | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | not that far | 07:30 |
| cbx33 | whats the news | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | eeek | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | bbiab | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | head is starting to kill | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | well, now when you roll over the elements the pictures sho up | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: yeah, go take care of the headache rather than watching text scrool by | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, cool | 07:53 |
| cbx33 | well at least I did something for gallium | 07:53 |
| cbx33 | :D | 07:53 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 10:08 |
| Signifer | Hey | 10:08 |
| bddebian | Hi Signifer | 10:10 |
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| mhz | hi all | 11:54 |
| bddebian | Heya mhz | 11:54 |
| mhz | bddebian: hi ya | 11:55 |
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