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noxsanother question....is there a tool for opening/editing .ai files (vector graphics of Adobe Illustrator) for linux?12:09
dakoOK12:09
h3sp4wnDaskreech: Not sure what is new but the last modified date is 2006 (when the plf ones were sometime in 2005)12:10
dakoWas able to open it, but now I get this message "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."12:10
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h3sp4wndako: You did that without closing adept ? (I asked you if you had any applications open that could be using the database)12:11
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dakoI did the sudo with adept closed12:12
cpk2!nfs12:12
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.12:12
Smoophdako open a konsole type "ps ax | grep apt" and kill those processes than try it again12:12
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cpk2!nfs-utils12:12
ubotuI know nothing about nfs-utils - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:12
cpk2!info nfs-utils12:12
ubotuPackage nfs-utils does not exist in dapper12:12
h3sp4wndako: close adept - and do sudo dpkg --configure -a12:12
Smoophthis is a way too dako12:13
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dakoOK.it's doing something12:14
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dakoIt's setting up alot of programs12:15
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GlaCeAuSkysalut tout le monde12:16
GlaCeAuSkybesoin d'une chtite aide pr un noob ^12:16
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zappixBAH. My desktop just froze ;-;12:16
zappixThere we go12:16
GlaCeAuSkyfrench here ?12:16
dakoI am in it. In preview changes kaudiocreater is at status Broken(Upgrade). Should I delete this?12:17
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bgrimmis there a clean way to uninstall openoffice instead of manually removing packages with the package manager?12:19
zappixOkay12:20
zappixAnyone know how to set up Firefox?12:20
zappixKonquerer doesn't work right with some parts of my site ;-;12:21
zappixLike these Javascript menus12:21
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BluesKajbgrimm,I had to remove some badly residual configged pkgs in order to install Openoffice12:21
sebbarwhy don't make your site konqueror compatible?12:21
zappix!firefox12:22
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:22
zappix......no it ain't D:12:22
BluesKajbgrimm,remove the offending pkges manually in the status option in synaptic12:23
bgrimmk, slow painful way. but so far is working...12:23
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BluesKajyup, slow but it worked for me :)12:23
XVampireXIf I have a ubuntu cd, can I install kubuntu without installing gnome stuff?12:23
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dr_willisXVampireX,  could do a server install i guess.. but gnome + kde is the way to go- to use both. :)12:24
dr_willisgnome and kde both have a lot of nice apps. that ya can mixx and match12:24
XVampireXSomeone should release a Canonical CD (ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu) that just retrieves the packages directly from the internet, and not from CD12:24
dr_willisthe servers are loaded enough as it is. :)12:25
XVampireXI'd like a customized version too, I.E: Choose packages to install12:25
dr_willisit really SUCKS when ya cant install due to server load.12:25
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XVampireXdr_willis, Agree12:25
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dr_willisBut i tend to install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop12:26
dr_willisthen i got a script thatisntalls all the other stuff i  normally want12:26
dekhow do i see if my internet connection is active, IP, and stuff?12:26
XVampireXdr_willis, only 40gb HD here, sorry.12:26
dr_willisthats plenty! :)12:26
dr_willisno room for porn however.12:26
dr_willis:()12:27
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XVampireXdr_willis, Exactly, and I'm not talking about porn, I'm going to collect music and run it through amarok/some music daemon (mpd/xmms2)12:27
XVampireXand PSX games12:27
h3sp4wndek: try pinging an ip (eg 'ping 194.112.32.1' - I know that should be up)12:27
dr_willisHeh12:27
dr_willisMAME rom set is up to 14gb now.12:27
XVampireXAnd I don't like having gnome apps in kde panel12:28
dekI mean not testing it xD but like seeing a window that tells me my ip and stuff12:28
XVampireXor other way around12:28
dr_willis*meh*12:28
cpk2dek: ifconfig12:28
dr_willisi can rarely notice if an app is kde or gnome based.. i use whatever tool does the job the best.12:28
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dekthanks12:29
dr_willisif you are that tight for space may want to check out xubuntu, not sure how much smaller it is.12:29
cpk2if you want a really messy output you can use netstat12:29
dekit's enough just wanted to know that :P12:29
dekdo you know any nice guide for linux beginners12:29
deki mean to really get to understand linux12:30
deknot working mechanically :P12:30
epwhat does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?12:30
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Daskreechzappix: Yes it is :)12:31
dr_willisep checks the packages to make sure they are all configured right I think12:31
dr_willis!apt-get12:31
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:31
dek!Adept12:31
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto12:31
cpk2!i68612:32
ubotuI know nothing about i686 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:32
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pihlI've reinstalled KDM due to I screwed some things up, now when I am prompted with the login screen I am unable to type letters, only numbers, any ideas how to fix this?12:36
noxshow to stream asx files?12:38
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shidesciao12:38
shidesma con questo irc si scambiiano file??12:39
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XVampireXnoxs, YOU want to stream ASX files? or do you want to watch ASX streams?12:41
XVampireXnoxs: Best bet is on VLC, which does either.12:42
noxssry...you are right!...i mean watching asx streams12:42
noxsah i see...okay12:42
noxsthx12:42
XVampireXBut12:42
XVampireXYou need w32codecs12:42
XVampireX!w32codecs12:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:42
XVampireXnoxs, go to these (Especially first one) and read through it, it will enable all formats, alternatively, use either Automatix or EasyUbuntu12:43
noxsthx a lot!12:43
XVampireXNo problems12:43
XVampireXYou can query the bot for either automatix or easyubuntu through !12:44
XVampireXjust like I did with w32codecs12:44
noxshmm..okay12:44
noxsvery nice12:44
XVampireXBut easyubuntu/automatix have a GUI so you will most likely want this if you're new to linux12:44
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dekdoes a newsreader come with Kubuntu or I have to download one?12:45
XVampireXcome with kubuntu12:45
XVampireXcomes^12:45
dekwhich one?12:46
dekname?12:46
forkz!skype12:46
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:46
XVampireXakregator12:46
XVampireXwhat do you mean newsreader?12:46
XVampireXRSS or...?12:46
dekno, newsgroups12:46
XVampireXIf anything else, you'd want Kontact12:46
QMarioWhy does KDE seem more buggy than GNOME?12:46
deknot RSS Feeds12:46
XVampireXwhich comes with kubuntu12:46
dekok maybe mail client does it =)12:46
XVampireXKontact = all in one12:46
dekok thanks12:46
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XVampireXno problems12:47
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noxsgreat! it works!12:48
XVampireX:)12:49
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pipummmm,,,,,,,,,,12:52
piphello12:52
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pihlI've reinstalled KDM due to I screwed some things up, now when I am prompted with the login screen I am unable to type letters, only numbers, any ideas how to fix this?12:54
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pihlI also get the error "cannot open theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu"12:54
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pip_mooi have no clue, seems like it did that to me once, but i just reinstalled kubuntu12:56
pip_moono one seems to talk here ;)12:56
Agiosmaybe it's your nick :)12:56
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tdnCan I get some help to get the sound to work in KDE here? I installed kubuntu-desktop and now the sound does not work in KDE.12:56
pihlwhat's the easiest way to reinstall kubuntu then? format the partition and pop in the cd?12:56
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moo_masterbetter?12:57
Agiospihl: that will work but I recommend you use the alternate cd, not the live cd.12:57
pihlok :)12:57
Agiostdn, make sure to check your mixer settings.12:57
tdnAgios, how do I check those?12:58
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tdnAgios, I'm not sure what you mean by mixer settings.12:58
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Agiostdn, start kmix and play with the adjustments12:58
moo_masterit will be kmix in the mulimedia section of your kmenu12:58
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Agiostdn: if that's ok go into kcontrol and change the sound driver to different drivers. ALSA and OSS are the best bets.12:59
tdnAgios, oh. I already did that. Everything seems OK there. Except that the sound icon in the panel says that sound is disabled and sound does not work...12:59
Agiostry some other drivers then.01:00
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tdnAgios, in kcontrol -> sound & multimedia -> sound system, Enable the sound system is enabled.01:00
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pipis there a way to make konqueror smoother? Like a higher refresh or something? Firefox is way smooth but konqueror is all jerky for me. just wondering01:00
Agiostdn: look under hardware for the drivers01:00
tdnAgios, it is set to Autodetect.01:01
Agiospip, I haven't noticed that01:01
piplike i move a window over koqueror and it leaves big trails01:01
tdnShould I set it to ALSA?01:01
Agiostdn, force it to alsa01:01
tdnOk.01:01
Agiossince it's not working, yes :)01:01
tdnAgios, and then it should work if I play a sound file?01:01
soulriderdoes anyone have any idea of hwo i can update my kernel? im not using the latest one,a nd when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it says there are no upgrades available01:02
piphuh, well just wondering01:02
tdnAgios, it still does not work.01:02
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Agiospip, interesting. I don't see that behaviour here01:02
Agiostdn, try oss then01:02
tdnAgios, hmm... well I used ALSA in Gnome and it worked fine...01:03
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tdnAgios, OSS does not work either.01:03
Agiostdn, I don't know then01:04
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tdnAgios, ok :(01:04
Agioscheck the kubuntu forums01:04
tdnThen I have to change back to Gnome :(01:04
pipsudo apt-get linux-image then your processor type will update your kernel01:04
pipactually it should do it automatically in adept01:04
pipclick fetch updates01:05
pipthen apply01:05
Agiossoulrider: which kernel would you like to install?01:05
soulriderlastest01:06
tdnAgios, I'll check the forums. Thanks for the try.01:06
soulriderThe latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:           2.6.17.701:06
soulriderand i have01:06
soulrider2.6.15-26-38601:06
pipprobobly have to build it yourself01:07
soulriderthe thing is01:07
soulrideradept downloaded it01:07
soulriderbut tis like ti didnt install it01:07
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gekko`soulrider: what does uname -r say?01:08
soulrider2.6.15-26-38601:09
pipi dont see 2.6.17 in adept01:09
Agiosif it's downloaded you can install it with dpkg01:09
gekko`soulrider: you could donwnload the kernel?01:09
soulrideri think so, im almost 100% positive it was downlaoded earlier01:10
soulriderbesides, i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it says theres nothing to upgrade01:10
Philip5SpAwN: are you there?01:10
gekko`soulrider: check 'ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep linux-image01:10
Agioswhere do you see that 2.6.17.7 is the latest stable kernel?01:10
pipwhy do you want the latest kernel so bad anyway?01:11
soulriderfinger linux@kernel.org01:11
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Agiosif you are getting that from kernel.org I doubt there is a package for it yet01:11
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soulridergekko`: how do i heck that?01:11
shidesciao01:11
shidesa tutit01:11
shidestutti01:11
gekko`soulrider: type that in a terminal01:11
shideschi  disposto ad aiutarmi01:12
soulriderwith sudo right?01:12
gekko`no need for sudo01:12
soulriderok01:12
shidesad installare aMule nel kubuntu?01:12
soulriderlinux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb01:12
gekko`it just lists the content of that dir01:12
Agiosalthough I may go get it and try it. i2o was broken in 2.6.17.601:12
BluesKaj!it01:12
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:12
shidesok grazie01:13
gekko`soulrider: that's the latest kernel for ubuntu. if you want a newer one you need to compile a kernel on your own01:13
BluesKajciao01:13
soulriderok, i dont think ill be doing that01:13
soulriderill just wait until a friendly geek releases the package :P01:13
soulriderthanks for the help! =D01:14
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Agiosit's not that hard :)01:14
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gekko`it's not hard as long as you know what you do01:14
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BluesKajhmmm I guess I'm a bit behind the kernel curve ... 2.6.15.2401:15
pipso are random lockups pretty common with the fglrx driver for ati cards? I used to have a problem with that bad, but now i'm using hte stock ati drivers with ubuntu, and i havnt had a freeze yet.01:15
nagyvany ideas how to synchronize kontact with my Sony-Ericsson D750i? It is said to support syncML, but when I try to synchornize, Kontact crashes.01:15
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wolfmanzpip i'm using the flgrx driver and havent any lockups01:16
Agiospip, interesting you should say that. I know someone else who is getting lockups with the that driver on Mandriva.01:16
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nagyvpip: how did you set up fglrx for ATI? I have tried to understand the forums, but coldn't. Could you please point me to your sources?01:16
BluesKajpip, I haven't had anyprobs wxcept in W17 , but then I'm new to Enlightenment ...kde works fine with the fglrx01:17
BluesKajE1701:17
wolfmanznagyv use easy ubuntu to install the driver it saves you alot of work01:17
pipautomatix has it now to01:17
nagyvwolfmanz: what do you mean, adept?01:17
BluesKajare you running dapper , pip ?01:17
Philip5Hawkwind: are you there?01:17
wolfmanznagyv no its a serperate porogram01:18
wolfmanz!easyubuntu01:18
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:18
h3sp4wnnagyv: I would use the latest fglrx from ati and opt to build dapper packages (it has alot of fixes)01:18
BluesKajit shoiuld be in your video card config  list in systems hardware01:18
pipyeah i am,l i get almost full hardware acceleration with the stock driver01:18
wolfmanzthere is the link01:18
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HawkwindPhilip5: I am now01:18
pipfglrx used to not lock up my system01:19
pipbut all of the sudden01:19
pipit could be a ram issue though, i think one of my chips went bad01:19
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nagyvh3sp4wn: thx, but I prefer (beta) prebuilds, like wolfmanz's suggestion01:19
piplatest from ati eh? i'll give it a shot01:19
wolfmanzpip if yopu got ram issues that can make all kinds of strange stuff happen01:19
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pipyeah when i run memtest it gets to about 75% and then i get all kinds of errors and my systems locks up01:20
Philip5Hawkwind: i have updated the enlightenment package to detect confict with enlightenment-data so they can't be installad and give that errormessage01:20
cpk2my wireless keeps disconnecting me even though i have an excellent signal01:20
h3sp4wnnagyv: Ati doesn't release beta's for linux afaik01:20
wolfmanzpip get new ram thats something you gotta fix01:20
wolfmanzpip it also might not be ram it could also be a bad cpu and or motherboard that will make memtest fail so test your ram out01:21
h3sp4wnnagyv: easyubuntu's versions of the drivers are older01:21
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pipyeah my motherboard is a peice01:21
nagyvh3sp4wn: beta = use at my own risk :)01:21
pipits a gigabyte, i will never make that mistake again01:22
pipi got an amd 3200 64 bit in it though01:22
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h3sp4wnnagyv: But ati doesn't release beta's - and easyubuntu just uses the version from the repo01:22
nagyvwolfmanz, h3sp4wn: I have already tried to install the ATI drivers, could this lead to problems?01:22
h3sp4wnnagyv: Did you not opt to build packages ?01:23
nagyvh3sp4wn: I am affraid of missing security updates01:23
wolfmanznagyv after you install rthe driver use fglrxinfo to make sure the ati drivers are working01:23
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pipits pretty easy to install them01:24
h3sp4wnnagyv: So why do you want beta drivers ?01:24
pipwell not the betas01:24
wolfmanznagyv no it didnt lead to problems for me i tried manually to install them from a forum post i was reading but like you i gave up and used easy ubuntu01:24
pipi dont even know where to get those01:24
h3sp4wnI don't think there are any01:24
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pipi dont think so either01:24
pipdid ati get bought out by someone? or was i just dreaming that?01:25
wolfmanznagyv after i used easy ubuntu i still had to go into the xorg.conf and edit a line in there01:25
wolfmanzpip ati is owned by AMD now01:25
h3sp4wn--buildpkg ubuntu/dapper (ati supports dapper - and has fixed the crashing on shutdown issue)01:25
nagyvwolfmanz: fglrixinfo output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1964201:25
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nagyvh3sp4wn: I think I know about that craching. But is this a command?01:26
wolfmanznagyv ya your using the mesa driver and that means the ATI isnt installed or woring01:26
h3sp4wnnagyv: its the end part of the command you have to give to the ati installer01:27
wolfmanznagyv ya your using the mesa driver and that means the ATI isnt installed or not working01:27
piphopefully amd will provide better linux support01:27
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piphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:28
pipthats pretty much all you need to get it installed01:28
noxsgood n801:29
noxshave a nice day or night...:o)01:29
noxsbye bye01:29
nagyvh3sp4wn: pip: thx, I will try to do it.01:29
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Lunar_Raven!nvidia01:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:29
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pipthe wiki for ubuntu is great01:31
pipone of the main reasons i use it01:31
nagyvpip, what does this mean? "You need hardware-accelerated 3D support, or display refresh rates higher than 60 Hz."01:31
pipno other distro has worked so good for me01:31
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pipnagyv: what is saying that?01:31
soulriderwhats a good emule clinet i can use?01:32
nagyvthe wiki page you just suggested01:32
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pipoh thats just saying that you only need the drivers if you require 3d acceleration and a higher refresh rate01:33
nagyvat lspci I get back that my driver is RV350, at http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R6.7.0/doc/radeon.4.html it is written that the radeon driver supports only 2D. What is the radeon driver? it this the opensource ati?01:33
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pipbut if you are using dapper you probobly have 3d acceleration already, at least i do on my readion x85001:34
pipradeon01:34
piphow do you reply to a person? i've never used irc before01:34
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soulrideryou mean private emssage ?01:34
nagyvpip: I use konversaion. here I start typeing your nick, then press a tab01:35
soulriderrightt clickt he name adn then query01:35
nagyvpip: how could I check 3D?01:35
pipnagyv: ohhh.... right onthanks01:35
pipwait...01:35
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pipwell apparently i cant pm you, cuz i'm not registeres01:36
pipregistered01:36
pipdo your opengl screensavers work smoothly?01:37
pipdoes planet penguin racer work good?01:37
nagyvpip: opengl screensavers are not smooth at all01:38
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pipdefinetly dont have it then01:39
pipwhat card do you have?01:39
nagyvpip: ati mobility radeon 960001:40
pipnagyv: is this a fresh install of ubuntu?01:40
piplike not an upgrade from breezy?01:40
h3sp4wnati mobility radeon should work with acceleration with the free drivers01:40
nagyvpip: a frehc install, but dapper was still in beta01:40
nagyvh3sp4wn: as I have said, I already tried to get fglrx, so it can happen that I messed things up01:41
h3sp4wnnagyv: dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx01:42
pipnagyv: i'd do an install from the official version if i were you01:42
pipbut you can do this...01:42
clojster_guys, how can I make iso from dvd or cd in KDE?01:43
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nagyvh3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1964301:43
pipnagyv: actually just do the first part of that wiki page it shoudl work fine for you01:43
nagyvclojster_: I think you can do it with k3b, as saving your project in an iso file (not iso, but k3b's own extension)01:44
pipwell..... i gotta go now01:44
pipi might be back01:44
nagyvpip: thx, I plan to do the same :)01:44
nagyvpip: bye01:44
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clojster_nagyv: well, I need iso... there isnt any tool to do that? in gnome its just matter of one right click...01:45
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zappixAnyone know of a good FTP client for Linux?01:47
cpk2like wget?01:48
Agiosc/l ftp works pretty good01:48
Hawkwindzappix: gFTP or prozilla01:48
DaskreechBear01:48
zappixTHANKS01:48
zappixerm01:49
zappixCaps01:49
zappix^^001:49
HawkwindOr even kbear01:49
HawkwindOr kftpgrabber01:49
DaskreechOrrrrrrr ftp from the cli :)01:49
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dekdoes LaTeX come in Kubuntu? or I have to download it apart?01:51
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zappixUm01:52
nagyvdek: you can find it in adept01:53
zappix*** The pkg-config script could not be found. Make sure it is01:53
zappix*** in your path, or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable01:53
zappix*** to the full path to pkg-config.01:53
zappix=x01:53
dekok01:53
zappixALSO01:53
zappix*** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found01:53
nagyvclojster_: I don't really know01:53
zappix!glib01:53
ubotuI know nothing about glib - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:53
zappixD:01:53
nagyvh3sp4wn: I reboot now! :)01:53
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ubotuI know nothing about pkg-config - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:54
zappix>:/01:54
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h3sp4wnnagyv: did you purge the fglrx stuff first ?01:57
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h3sp4wnzappix: ncftp is my favourite but there is a newer more full featured cli client I can't remember the name of01:58
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nagyvh3sp4wn: no, apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx ?02:02
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h3sp4wnnagyv: Are you trying to use fglrx or the free drivers ?02:02
nagyvh3sp4wn: hmm, I think the free drivers02:03
h3sp4wnnagyv: sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i02:03
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h3sp4wnnagyv: then dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx (should list nothing) I don't know you thought rebooting would help fix that02:04
nagyvh3sp4wn: wow, the aptitude command would like to purge 47 packages! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1964702:06
h3sp4wnnagyv: I usually trust aptitude to make the right decisions (but I use it all the time) if you don't want to do that you can do apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx02:08
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DaskreechNight all02:09
ndazzamorning all!02:10
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nagyvh3sp4wn: cool! dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx gave me back nothing. So, what to do next?02:12
h3sp4wnnagyv: either reboot or use control alt backspace to kill x - then run glxinfo | grep direct02:13
nagyvh3sp4wn: isn't it goog if I log off, and then restart just the X server?02:14
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pussfellerenemy territory is running very very choppy, i have an nvidia02:14
pussfellerq3 works fine02:14
h3sp4wnnagyv: run grep fglrx /etc/modules (there should be no output)02:14
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pussfellerand the shapes get all blurry02:15
LouKallhey i was wondering if i could get some help installing Shockwave02:15
pussfellershockwave player?02:15
h3sp4wnnagyv: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart should also be fine02:15
pussfellerthat has no linux port02:15
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h3sp4wnI don't think it can be done (but may be wrong)02:16
sorush20hi guys I seem to be unable to run ark for some unknown reason..02:16
sorush20as soon as I try to run it , i see the kde crash dialogue02:16
LouKallnot able to happen?02:16
LouKalldammit.02:16
LouKallsome of my favorite video sites use either WMP or Shockwave02:17
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pussfellermacromedia liscencened flash and cant port it, iirc02:17
pussfellererr i mean shockwave02:17
LouKallthats gay.02:18
LouKallany alternative?02:18
LouKallprobably not.02:18
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pussfellerweb mulitmedia support is better than its ever been, but we are still the second class citizens of the net :(02:18
Agiosthere are flash plugins, etc. but not shockwave02:18
pussfellersupposedly adobe is working on a port of the latest flash, but then others say they are just lying02:19
Hawkwind!shockwave02:19
ubotushockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave02:19
sorush20I more open source coding is developed then there wouldn't be problems like this .. php is a great example.. and svg.02:19
sorush20if02:20
Hawkwindsorush20: So get busy coding02:20
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LouKallword.02:20
Agiossomehow I don't think macromedia is going to jump on the open source band wagon any time soon.02:20
h3sp4wnphp is horrible (mod_perl (or probably mod_python) is much nicer)02:20
chosebineagios:no more macromedia, adobe now02:20
pussfellerthey dont pretend to like open source, but they did release a flash version02:21
Agiosadobe even less so02:21
chosebineeh02:21
pussfellerand at least care enough to make a press release about another02:21
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LouKallso i would have to watch the movies through, wine, and a windows version of Firefox?02:22
LouKallgeh.02:22
AgiosI don't doubt they will release a linux version. But not open source it.02:22
AgiosLouKall: what movies? Google videos, youtube, etc. all play fine with the flash plugin.02:22
LouKallstreetfire.net02:22
h3sp4wnAm I the only one who doesn't really care about flash ?02:22
chosebineh3:no02:22
LouKallprobably so.02:22
LouKalloh.02:23
LouKallwait.02:23
LouKallone more follower.02:23
nagyvh3sp4wn: but until now, I did not reinstalled any drivers, just purged it02:23
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chosebinemaybe the future of svg will replace flash02:24
h3sp4wnnagyv: The driver you need was already there (just fglrx diverted a load of stuff you need for 3d)02:24
LouKallit sucks because thats the only videos i will really watch on the internet.02:24
Agiosstand by, I'm trying something with a video from that site02:24
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nagyvh3sp4wn: ohh02:24
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LouKallokey.02:24
LouKalland it seems when i watch videos on googlevideo, there is no sound.02:25
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RogueXh3sp4wn: Hello02:25
h3sp4wnRougeX: Hello02:26
RogueXCan someone help with playing DVD's?02:26
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RogueXh3sp4wn: Hay glad your here02:26
RogueXh3sp4wn: Think you can help with DVD prob?02:26
Agiosok, never mind. That was a complete failure.02:26
h3sp4wnRogueX: What is the problem ? Did you run the installscript for dvdread3 ?02:27
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LouKallit sucks--nothing there.02:28
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sorush20what package do I need to install to be able to debug my ubuntu.com02:28
RogueXh3sp4wn: yes but now I cant upgrade because I get a conflict with some files called libdvdcss0.0.1 and I dont see them in apet02:28
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sorush20what package do I need to install to be able to debug my ark crashes..02:28
camiloa02:29
h3sp4wnRogueX: What are you trying to upgrade ?02:29
h3sp4wnRogueX: Are you using unofficial repos ?02:29
RogueXh3sp4wn: libdvdcss2 keeps wanting to update02:29
h3sp4wnRogueX: apt-cache policy libdvdcss202:30
RogueXh3sp4wn: is that a command?02:30
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badkillAnybody here know a Brasilian chat ???02:30
h3sp4wnRogueX: yes02:30
badkillwere ???02:30
LouKallhe wasnt talking to you badkill02:30
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soulrider!pt02:31
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:31
badkilltim new user to UBUNTU and Kubuntu System and i leaning this !!!02:31
badkillOK Tkx !02:31
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RogueXh3sp4wn: it came back Installed: (none)02:31
RogueXh3sp4wn: I uninstalled it tying to fix02:32
RogueXh3sp4wn: now I cant reinstall because of the other files02:32
dek!easysource02:32
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:32
nagyvh3sp4wn: I run this script (sudo /etc/init.d/?dm), but nothing happened. Then I have restarted the X server, but the OpenGL screensavers are still wrong.02:33
h3sp4wnnagyv: glxinfo | grep direct02:33
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h3sp4wnRogueX: Is it dpkg complaining about the files ?02:33
soulriderh3sp4wn: what was hte location of the file with the repositories addresses located?02:33
soulrideruhm, that came out quite wrong02:34
h3sp4wn/etc/apt/sources.list02:34
soulriderthanks!02:34
nagyvh3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1965002:34
RogueXh3sp4wn: adept manager is what I am using to install02:35
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soulrideris there a way to give root access to an application once you opened it?02:35
sorush20what other decompression programs are there?02:35
h3sp4wntar can do bzip2 and gzip02:35
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h3sp4wnRogueX: run sudo dpkg -C02:36
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ndazzahi! my wireless pcmcia card depends on linux-restricted-modules but it hasn't been released for the new kernel updates. where can i find out when this package will be released for the new kernel images?02:36
nagyvI thought that there could be something under System Settings/Display, and actually there is. There is an error stating that the module is remained from an older version OR that there remaind a setup program from a 3rd party program02:36
h3sp4wnndazza: edit sources.list and add restricted after dapper-security main02:36
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ndazzah3sp4wn: ahh! thanks02:37
h3sp4wnnagyv: Run lsmod | grep fglrx02:37
cpk2ndazza: just use modprobe?02:37
cpk2!modprobe02:37
cpk2!modprobe02:37
cpk2well the bot isnt being very helpful right now but you get the idea02:37
ubotuI know nothing about modprobe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:37
nagyvh3sp4wn: no output02:37
h3sp4wnnagyv: lsmod | grep radeon02:37
RogueXh3sp4wn: same problem cant install because it would break other packages02:37
HawkwindWhen was there a new kernel released ?02:37
ndazzacpk2: the module isn't installed, i needed the package itself :)02:38
nagyvh3sp4wn:02:38
nagyv$ lsmod | grep radeon02:38
nagyvradeon                116000  102:38
nagyvdrm                    73236  2 radeon02:38
cpk2ndazza: you know you dont need to recompile your kernel to get it to work right?02:38
cpk2i thought glxgears was also supposed to output a fps somewhere as well?02:39
h3sp4wnnagyv: I don't know why radeon is not working (usually if the kernel module is there and there are no diverts then its working)02:39
gnomefreakcpk2: glxgears --printfps02:39
gnomefreakor 1 -02:39
cpk2gnomefreak: thanks02:39
h3sp4wncpk2: strings /usr/bin/glxgears (and it will give you the command)02:39
ndazzacpk2: yes i know that. i'm not recompiling, the problem is that the package linux-restricted-modules is dependent on which kernel image has been installed, and there have been new kernel images in the last few days. linux-restricted-modules hasn't been upgraded along with the new kernel images02:40
RogueXh3sp4wn: no luck still the same02:40
nagyvh3sp4wn: in my xorg.conf file there are several monitor, sevice and device sections. could this be a problem?02:40
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ndazzacpk2: the reason, as h3sp4wn kindly pointed out, is that i didn't specify restricted packages in my security updates02:40
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sorush20what package do I need to install to back trace a crash in kde?02:40
h3sp4wnnagyv: try changing Driver "ati" to Driver "radeon"02:40
gnomefreaksorush20: what crashed?02:41
sorush20ark02:41
sorush20gnomefreak:02:41
h3sp4wnnagyv: And maybe try restarting because I don't know what fglrx may have done to the kernel if you tried to use it02:41
cpk2hmm is averaging 1900 fps decent for a laptop?02:41
gnomefreaksorush20: try gdb ark <enter>  when you get a (gdb) type run02:41
Dr_Willissee how well it plays Quake3 or Quake4 :)02:41
h3sp4wncpk2: Its a meaningless benchmark hence why the fps is not displayed by default02:42
cpk2rofl i am certain it would die playing quake402:42
RogueXDr_Willis: good to see your here02:42
gnomefreaksorush20: if it comes back with no executable file or file than you need to run an strace (ltrace) or another type of trace02:42
h3sp4wnRogueX: What repos are you using other than the official ones ?02:42
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RogueXh3sp4wn: plf?02:42
h3sp4wnRogueX: Just plf ?(not beer or kid or quins xgl one)02:43
LouKallanyone know how i can burn cds with k3b?02:44
LouKallits giving me an error.02:44
LouKallno permissions for device, or something.02:44
Dr_Willisgo on....02:44
RogueXh3sp4wn: backports?02:45
h3sp4wnRogueX: can you not just do sudo aptitude purge dvd~i02:45
Dr_WillisHmm.. were you asking about this earlier today LouKall ?02:45
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LouKallnope.02:45
Frederickfolks02:45
LouKalli wasnt on here earlier Dr_Willis02:45
h3sp4wnRogueX: That wouldn't break it02:45
Frederickif adept failed to dl a package can I re-start it?02:45
Dr_WillisLouKall,  you are the 2nd today then to ask that.02:45
Dr_WillisIm wondering if theres some bug going on.02:45
dekhow do I connect/disconnect from the internet?02:45
LouKallDr_Willis, Interesting.02:45
Dr_Willisdek how are you connected?02:45
h3sp4wnFrederick: I would delete the partially downloaded file from /var/cache/apt/archives02:46
LouKallDr_Willis, would you like for me to get specifics?02:46
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dekADSL, PPPoE02:46
LouKallIm not sure about bug reports.02:46
RogueXh3sp4wn: I did that but the only thing it did now is uninstall dvd+rw-tools02:46
Dr_WillisLouKall,  just someone else was in here today asking identical thing.. not sure if he fixed it or not.02:46
LouKallhmmm02:46
Dr_WillisLouKall,  may want to check the kubuntu/ubuntu wiki/forums.02:46
LouKallokay.02:46
LouKalli'll look.02:46
Dr_Willisif its due to some updates.. it shouldbe mentioned there02:46
h3sp4wnRogueX: so sudo aptitude dist-upgrade fails (what is the exact error)02:46
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RogueXh3sp4wn: just did no errors.. but libdvdcss2 is not installed02:47
nagyvh3sp4wn: I think it still does not work :(, but even though thx for your help02:47
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adam__how do u change the clock from military time to regular?02:48
h3sp4wnnagyv: looks for documents on setting up linux on your exact laptop model (or if all else fails download the latest fglrx drivers from ati and use those)02:48
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cpk2has anyone upgraded kde to .4 yet?02:48
cpk2it supposedly works now without breaking things?02:49
Dr_Willisadam__,  set the date format, click on the clock and look in the menus02:50
RogueXh3sp4wn: should the file libdvdcs0.0.1 not be here?02:50
Dr_Willisadam__,  you may have to restart the clock program for it to take effect.02:50
nagyvh3sp4wn: according to http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R6.7.0/doc/radeon.4.html, I think that the radeon driver only does not supports 3D for my card02:50
RogueXAnyone help with Amarok?02:51
nagyvRogueX: what is your problem?02:51
RogueXnagyv: I have to select the xine engine everytime I start it02:51
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h3sp4wnnagyv: look at the xorg 7 release notes particularly the part about r300 experimental suppotr02:52
nagyvh3sp4wn: mine is rv350, according to lspci02:52
RogueXh3sp4wn: any other ideas?02:53
h3sp4wnnagyv: And that is one of the ones that should work (anything with more than 4 pipes won't)02:53
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h3sp4wnRogueX: Without the full error messages from apt / aptitude / dpkg I can't help you02:53
RogueXh3sp4wn: there is no error.02:54
adam__k thanks I got it.02:54
h3sp4wnRogueX: dpkg -S libdvdcs0.0.102:54
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h3sp4wnRogueX: If that comes up with nothing just remove it02:54
LouKallDr_Willis, i just had to do sudo k3b02:54
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adam__it wasn't very self-explanitory though. I had to change the "Country or Region" from default to USA02:54
LouKalli dont know why, but yeaaah02:54
RogueXh3sp4wn: that came up with nothing..   How do I remove it then?02:55
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h3sp4wnRogueX: sudo rm /path/to/whereitis02:57
ErtainHello everyone.02:57
ErtainI'm trying to figure out how mouse wheel turns can be recognized for button presses.  Specifically I'd like to move my mouse wheel up or down to scroll through a gallery of pictures in Kview.02:57
madsphi , i was here sometimes ago had probs with partition and geeintng banc win all i needed was a real win install givin me the option to go dos and do a fixmbr , and start over gain. not farin buying a com without a real install cd , when promised to get win . anyway am on win now , got ubuntu on main boot partition. just im curious what makes ubuntu different from other ossises. i like ubunt just my everlasting curiousity. googled some shots of other dt02:58
madspmy typos might challenge you :P02:59
RogueXh3sp4wn: cant find... LOL  this is crazy  :)02:59
RogueXh3sp4wn: what is the command that makes apt do the check and clears out junk/03:00
h3sp4wnRogueX: try /usr/lib but if you can't upgrade then apt/dpkg must give you some error03:00
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nagyvRogueX: do you think to apt-get clean?03:01
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h3sp4wnRogueX: what was the error message from dpkg -C ?03:02
acid-tripyou know how to compile and install quake2forge on kubuntu03:02
RogueXh3sp4wn: checked /usr/lib not there...     the error I get in Adept manager is cant install Conflict:libdvdcss0.0.103:02
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RogueXh3sp4wn: because I dont know better?  :)  make suggestion for better way?03:03
h3sp4wnRogueX: run sudo aptitude (go into interactive aptitude)03:03
acid-triph3sp4wn: what other repositories do i have to add(if any) to get w32codecs03:04
BluesKajh3sp4wn, don't let yer knowledge make you arrogant and judgemental over those of us who are still learning :)03:04
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RogueXh3sp4wn: ok running aptitude... now what?03:05
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RogueXh3sp4wn: Is this the better way to install packages than Adept manager???03:06
h3sp4wnRogueX: control t - search find broken03:06
sophie_h3sp4wn: try apt-get (command line)03:06
h3sp4wnsophie_: aptitude install blah works on the commandline03:07
h3sp4wnsophie_: The advantage of aptitude is what is installed is logged so if you remove a package it removes its dependancies also03:07
sophie_h3sp4wn: same for apt-get03:08
RogueXh3sp4wn: doesnt come back with anything03:08
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rikiohh3sp4wn: i personally use adept to search for things too :)03:08
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sophie_h3sp4wn: to search I use apt-cache search foo foo2 foo303:08
h3sp4wnrikioh: aptitude search (is powerful) just read the bit about the regular expressions03:09
RogueXh3sp4wn: ok lost... in menus where to??03:09
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h3sp4wnRogueX: Actions install / remove packages (see what it wants to do)03:09
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yoshudoes anyone know how to get the development release of wine?03:10
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RogueXh3sp4wn: "No pacages are scheduled to be installed, removed,or upgraded."03:10
h3sp4wnRogueX: No idea then03:11
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RogueXh3sp4wn: so how do I install libdvdcss2?03:12
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h3sp4wnsophie_: I sometimes use apt-cache search but like the way with aptitude you can do something like aptitude search ~nsun~njava~i (to list packages that contain sun and java and are installed)03:12
h3sp4wnRogueX: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss203:13
Dr_Willis!info dvd03:13
ubotuPackage dvd does not exist in dapper03:13
Dr_Willis! dvd03:13
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:13
Dr_Willis!dvd03:13
Dr_WillisHeh.03:13
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nagyvis it normal to have 3 monitor, device and screen sections under xorg.conf?03:14
Dr_WillisThe ubuntu default xorg is a littel cluttered03:15
Dr_Willis:)03:15
Dr_Willisbut ive seen MUCH worse03:15
sophie_h3sp4wn: try out "apt-cache search perl mp3" it will listt relevant packages containing in description both keywords03:15
nagyvDr_Willis: and is it safe to delete 2-2 of every triple?03:16
nnn0!mp303:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:16
RogueXh3sp4wn: I got the error "Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.'03:16
madspwhats the dif ?03:16
h3sp4wnsophie_: But suppose I wanted to remove all the packages that fit that description that are installed (how could I do that)03:16
RogueXh3sp4wn: I got the error "Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.'03:18
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CornelliusRogueX: The repository is down, not your fault.03:20
RogueXCornellius: Thank you I have been going crazy trying to fix this03:20
CornelliusRogueX: Well, is that the only repository who does that ?03:20
h3sp4wnRogueX: Well your plf repo (which I think that package is in) is down03:20
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dek!nvidia03:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:20
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RogueXh3sp4wn: Thanks for all your help .. hope I didnt strech your patience to much.03:21
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CornelliusRogueX: We're here to help.03:21
RogueXCornellius: I dont know if thats the only one03:21
madspis there a main differesece betwen ubuntu and fedora fx ? i stick to ubuntu though my cousin appreciate dora more03:21
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h3sp4wnRogueX: just use libdvdread3 (I think that is in multiverse) and run the script to install it03:22
sophie_h3sp4wn: To be honest I don'Tt know but apt-get accept any regexp syntaxt, so I guest using wildcards should work03:22
RogueXh3sp4wn: Will try that now03:22
Cornelliusmadsp: Well, Ubuntu is DEBs based while Fedora is RPMs based.03:22
itssmeeagainnhello... did anyone experience severe slow-downs when inserting an usb stick and copying from it? kubuntu 6.06 :D... please. any solution would be good :D03:23
RogueXh3sp4wn: I know how to install that but how do I run the script?03:23
madspcan i google those two words (sorry am novice in this and am too embarressed to ask my dear cousin) , and see the diff's03:23
h3sp4wnRogueX: just look at the !dvd page03:24
rikiohwormux is fun :)03:24
Cornellius!deb03:24
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)03:24
Cornellius!rpm03:24
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).03:24
CornelliusThere madsp03:24
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nagyvh3sp4wn: I foun out the problem. Given that I have already installed the ati drivers, I had to uninstall its setup program. Now the free radeon driver works great.03:24
nagyvh3sp4wn: although it seems like an error what it gives at glxinfo | grep direct03:24
h3sp4wnsophie_: I know you can use apt-cache / apt-get | dpkg | grep - but I think using the regexps of aptitude is simpler03:25
nagyvand I also have a problem under Sysem Settings->Display03:25
madspah ok , explains redhat conflicts i had earlier , i like doubleclick lol , ty muchly03:25
Cornelliusmadsp: Use debs on Ubuntu and rpms on Fedora.03:26
CornelliusNo vice-versa03:26
madspi writedown on my paper03:26
Cornelliusmadsp: Ubuntu is a nice distro to start. I'd say it's simplier than Fedora.03:26
acid-tripdoesn't anyone know how to get quake2sorceforge working on kubuntu03:27
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CornelliusBecause a lot of people use it, there is also a lot of users to help.03:27
madspok , my cousin recommended me ubuntu , couse he thought id be mosre happy with taht to start with , makes perfect sence03:27
acid-tripCornellius: i would like to agree with u on that03:27
madspagain sorry bout typos03:28
nnn0you can convert between deb and rpm with the alien script03:28
Cornelliusnnn0: As a last resort only03:28
acid-tripnnn0: but sometimes the effect isn't always the best wished for03:28
nnn0of course03:28
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acid-tripi like FreeBsd03:28
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nnn0:)03:29
CornelliusOr trying Gentoo.03:29
h3sp4wnThen switch to ubuntu when you get lazy03:29
CornelliusLinux From Scratch03:29
nnn0LFS heh03:29
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nnn0!03:29
ubotuI know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:29
nnn0:)03:29
CornelliusHeh03:29
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nnn0ehehe the best beginner distro have to be knoppixmame or something :D03:30
madspcan i google like 'linix alinen danger' and understand why its not good ?03:31
madspmaybe alien03:31
Cornellius!alien03:31
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).03:31
madspso danger in a matter of conflict ?03:32
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h3sp4wnIf you have something like oracle that is only available as rpm then using alien can be fine03:32
h3sp4wnmost of the time it will cause you alot of problems03:33
madspok , sleepy now , and i repeat my childhood , why why why , ill be bsack tomorroew , and just watch the advices , think listening is a good way to learn . Good night :)03:33
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h3sp4wnBluesKaj: I would say I become arrogant / judgemental - is when I think people have not made any attempt to read the available documentation (if its bad fair enough or if people give an example of what they don't understand fine but I don't like people being what I see as just lazy) (also I am quite autistic so often I don't know why people think anything other than what I think as I can't relate to that)03:37
soulriderguys, what was the name of hte CLI text editor?03:39
h3sp4wnvim03:40
soulriderthanks03:40
h3sp4wnsoulrider: If you have never used it before maybe run 'vimtutor'03:40
soulrideri did... once lol03:41
madsphey sorry , couldnt sleep and scrolled up ----03:41
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madspive been recommended the unix programming enviorment book , but not ssure if it right niw ist inapropriate for me to read it yet since still a nov03:42
madspits by brian kernighan and rob pike03:43
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soulriderh3sp4wn:  how can i save/quit03:43
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BluesKajh3sp4wn, sometimes ppl with knowledge forget how difficult it is to get thru this Linux stuff and you appear to be a bit impatient with our learning curve ...that might be a better way to express that thought :)03:45
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sophie_BluesKaj: I agree with h3sp4wn I find people tend to cry for help without even trying, having kids I try to teach to try before asking03:46
briebertQuestion--- I had everything perfect on system, NVIDIA working, etc. on Ubuntu / Gnome - installed KDE and font options (pixel smooth, etc.) cannot be changed anymore, any ideas?03:47
madsphow do i reboot ?03:47
soulriderlol03:47
sophie_madsp: sudo reboot from the command line03:47
madsp:)03:47
soulridersorry if i ask too much, i know i can be annoying sometimes03:47
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Dr_WillisWll righty - figured out how to re-enable cups.03:49
BluesKajsophie_, I have kids as well and trying something without much knowledge of the subject can get you into a lotta trouble in things that require precision , such as linux . :)03:50
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anonconlol how do i update kubuntu03:53
anonconi know in ubuntu it was automatic besides password03:53
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dekI installed my nVidia card drivers, and they seem to work but I cannot get to resolution over 1024x768, any ideas?03:53
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anoncondid u check that the x config file was correct?03:54
dekwhat do you mean "correct"?03:54
anonconshould be nvidia instead of nv for the driver section i believe03:54
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dekyes, I changed that03:54
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anoncondid u check resolutions it had available?03:55
sophie_BluesKaj: agreed but without effort you don't learn,  I think you are supposing that linnux is more complex than windows it is not the case it is just different.  Linux does not require more precision than Windows you can screw up much more in Windows from the cmdline than linux (when you are not runninfg has root)03:55
anonconi had this problem on another computer - never founda fix - moved onto another computer lol03:55
dekyes I 1024 down03:55
dekbut I was unsure whether to edit that manually03:55
anonconu want higher?03:55
anonconyes u can03:55
dekI want 1280x102403:55
anonconu just have to know what ur monitor supports03:56
dekyes it does support that03:56
anonconso enter it in the way u see the others03:56
dekI used it all thet ime in Windows xD03:56
anonconk03:56
dekok03:56
deklets see03:56
anonconhow does one do security updates in kubuntu ?03:56
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BluesKajsophie , I have only about 5 yrs of off and on experience in Linux and every distro is different, so when I make a mistake it isn't from the lack of trying it's from the standpoint of knowing the commands before I try to do something .03:57
soulrideri dont like risking screwing things up, thats why i tend to ask, to make sure what im planning to do isnt gonna screw up my system03:58
BluesKaji try to write stuff down , cus i know this memory won't recall it exactly whwn i need it again03:59
soulrideri do that03:59
madspgood night ,  even watching intelligent conv, cant keep me awake . hber det er ok jeg blir p serveren / i rummet . good night03:59
soulriderbye madsp03:59
sophie_BluesKaj: I agree with you on the matter but when I get questions vague has:  How do I install XGL? instead of how do I congifure gdm to use XGL?   you figure that the subject did not even read on it04:00
BluesKajhej do04:00
madspgood night soulrider :)04:00
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BluesKajok  sophie, point taken04:01
Dasnipa`what is the konsole command to open up openoffice?04:01
anonconopenoffice? lol04:01
[-Ghost-] good evening folks04:01
Dasnipa`anoncon, not right04:01
zappixAnyone here good with VMWare?04:01
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anonconit works for me04:01
zappixNobody that is, is active in #vmware04:01
zappixT_T04:01
anonconu must not have it installed04:02
[-Ghost-] this the right place for long time windows users who don't know diddly about command lines? *ducks*04:02
anonconopenoffice in the console works for me04:02
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soulriderworks for me too04:02
soulriderdont ou have a kmenu ?04:02
soulriderdont you*04:03
anonconya something is wrong with ur setup - i bet u dont have it installed......doh04:03
Dasnipa`it was before i upgraded to dapper04:03
anonconupgraded from what?04:03
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zappix/lib/vmware/bin/vmplayer: /lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)04:03
zappixXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:03
zappixXlib: No protocol specified04:03
zappixo_O04:03
Dasnipa`anoncon, breezy04:04
sophie_BluesKaj: sorry I did not  want to start an argument but I agree with you that some people need more help I see it with my sons that have barely a yeat different04:04
anonconnot sure what that did but maybe try reinstall openoffice?04:04
Dasnipa`thats what im doing04:04
Dasnipa`its removing an old package and adding this new one04:04
Dasnipa`The following packages will be REMOVED:04:05
Dasnipa`  openoffice.org-debian-files openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us04:05
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[-Ghost-] reading thru the above links for common questions, but generally......should i have much trouble accessing my fat32 media folders now that i'm booted into Kubuntu?04:05
sotiredello04:05
[-Ghost-] last time i tried i made kubuntu unbootable for some reason, so formatted and am tryin again04:06
sotiredive been using kubuntu on my desktop for a while and i love, so now i am trying to install to my old inspiron laptop, however when i try to boot the cd i get to the options menu and then a box comes up and says i/o error no matter what option i chose04:06
sotired:(04:06
pipcould be a bad burn04:07
sophie_sotired: look into disabling acpi when booting from cd04:07
sotiredi dont get that far04:07
sotiredi think it might be a bad burn i had this prob a while ago on the desktop04:07
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sotiredi burned using k3b...any suggestions?04:07
sophie_sotired: its a kernel option when booting04:07
anonconya burn @ 2x instead of max04:08
sotiredill try it04:08
sotiredits actually xubuntu..but same difference04:08
BluesKajsophie_, Ive read some of the ind=structional pages and site related installing and configuring programs and the attitude by the authors is dometimes presumptuous and that can be discouraging to newbies , so they would sooner enter a chat and ask for instructions in an environment that has some feedback . At least that's been my experience04:08
BluesKajscuse my speling04:09
sotiredu folks think it will run well on a p3 700mhz w/ 256 ram?04:09
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sotiredmy burner wont burn at 2x...im trying 8x04:10
Drano_hey guys, are there any places to find extra amarok visualization plugins?04:10
sophie_sotired: it will run but turn off the visuals in kde04:10
sotiredim using xubuntu..so i think it uses xfce04:11
Drano_from what i understand amarok uses xmms plugs, correct?04:11
sotiredor something less intensive04:11
sophie_sotired: xfce tuns on my 133 mhz so 700 will be finr04:11
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sotiredsophie_:cool, thanks04:12
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sotiredwow a 13304:12
sotiredawesome04:12
sotiredi love old machines...they just dont die04:12
sotiredlike old buicks04:12
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sophie_sotired: be carefull it runs but it is not enjoyable, firefox sucks on it.04:13
sophie_sotired: I think on a 700 firefox should run fine04:13
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GreySimI run Firefox on a 700 all the time. It's my main computer. >.>'04:14
BluesKajsotired, I have an old 233MMX , maybe I should load it up , but it's max Ram is 128 :(04:14
sophie_BluesKaj: load up kde or xfce04:15
zappixAnyone here04:15
sotiredyeh..i just got this laptop as a hand me down for school...it had the worst virus on it...i think its called "windows me" ;-)04:15
zappixAnyone here know how to use VMWare?04:15
zappix><;04:15
sotiredbut i figured it will be mediocre at best with win2k on it, so linux all the way04:16
BluesKajI'm daul booting with windows on this pc and it's kinda nice to have a faster machine now ...ran the 233 for 2 yrs and it was slooowwww.04:16
GreySimMan, as a Gnome user, just trying to use KDE for the night to get a feel for it, I have to say, it looks like you all attracted the better artists. *drools over KDE-Look submissions*04:16
soulrider!ntfs > dek04:16
soulrider!ntfs04:17
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:17
sotiredgrey: i agree 10000%04:17
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GreySimIs there a good channel for complete and total KDE n00bs, or is this probably an okay place to ask a bunch of little basic questions?04:18
sotiredanyone see the ubuntu billboard that was posted on digg and del.icio.us? sweetness04:18
sotiredi hiope they put one in my town04:18
=== GreySim saw it! Awesomeness.
GreySimI hope they put one in my town too, given that I'm right by MS HQ. :P04:19
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sotiredha04:19
soulrider!easysource04:19
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:19
sotiredyou should pass out cds in redmond04:19
soulriderhas anyone tried out this driver? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=269704:20
sotiredok..my slow ass cd burn is done...im going to boot up that laptop and see what happens04:21
jb55!svn04:21
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/04:21
Martijn81is a short artifact in the sound when loading a webpage a known 3.5.4 bug (music in amarok or video in kaffeine)?04:21
GreySimEeep. It seems that I froze Konquerer by right-clicking on a .tar archive. And Kopete appears to have died too. o.O04:22
sotiredsuccess!!!!!!!!! thanks everyone!04:22
soulriderGreySim:  what happened to me04:24
soulriderclose kopete adn everything will come abck to normal04:24
GreySimWeird. Killing Kopete made Konquerer un-freeze. o.O04:24
GreySimYeah.04:24
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sotiredit seems to me that kopete is a memory hog, it might just be me tho04:24
sotiredi prefer gaim04:24
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GreySimEven as a Gnome user I can only barely tolerate Gaim. :(04:25
soulrideri dont like gaim much04:25
Chanikopete has gotten kinda big... heh04:26
GreySimIs there another KDE IM client?04:26
sotiredit ugly...but i feel like kopete is slowing me down04:26
sotiredis it just me? or is it a hog?04:26
ChaniI dunno. there have been times when it was being really sluggish, but other times it's fine. lately it's been good04:26
adam__I get this error when trying to install w32codecs:04:26
adam__adam@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb04:26
adam__dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb (--install):04:26
adam__ cannot access archive: No such file or directory04:26
adam__Errors were encountered while processing:04:26
adam__ w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb04:26
sotiredwhy is my xubntu cd starting gnome?04:26
Chanithere was a bug a few months ago where it would take 10-15 seconds to do *anything*.04:27
adam__i'm following instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed504:27
sotiredisnt xubuntu supposed to use xfce and not gnome?04:28
[-Ghost-] i like kopete, can't get my webcam workin in it yet tho, i suppose i have to manually enable it like everything else....so much for "out of the box", lol04:28
GreySimsotired: Yeah. :|04:28
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sotiredoh it is xfce...but when it was booting it said starting gnome04:29
adam__help plz?04:29
Bonez56?04:30
GreySimIs Karamba pretty memory-intensive, or do you think it would be fine under 256? Or 384, if I pop the sucker open real quick...04:30
soulrider!flash04:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:30
faroussotired: xfce is based on gtk applications so uses a lot of gnome stuff04:30
Martijn81lol, right clicking a file on desktop gives me the lipstik menu measurements, right clicking the desktop without a files give the the lipstik measurements (as set)04:31
adam__ya i'm following the istructions there but they arn't working04:31
sotiredmy resolution is effing huge and it wont let me change it....i think this lt has an old ati card...maybe it will fix itself once i install?04:31
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adam__ubotu, the instructions for w32codecs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats arn't working 4 me04:33
ubotuI know nothing about the instructions for w32codecs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats arn't working 4 me - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:33
adam__ok04:33
farousadam__: ubotu is a boot04:34
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adam__i sort of just realized that04:34
farous:)04:34
adam__so any can any humans help?04:34
sotiredof course...ubuntu is for humans04:34
sotiredsorry i had too04:35
adam__lol04:35
farousadam__: what was the prob04:35
Martijn81adam__: looks like you made a typo. Normally you'd get such a response04:35
farousyou couldn't download the package04:35
adam__it downloads fine but doesn't work when I type this line: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb04:36
[-Ghost-] thanks muchly, whoever posted in the topic, wrote or contributed to the article on mounting non-unix partitions, i just got my feet wet with konsole and am a happy camper04:36
Cornellius!factoids04:36
ubotuI know nothing about factoids - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:36
Martijn81adam__: try typing sudo dpkg -i w32c and then hit tab04:36
Cornellius!factoid04:36
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:36
farousadam__: use tab completion as been suggested earlier might be a typo04:36
farousadam__: so sudo dpkg -i w32 then press tab bottom04:37
farousbotton lol04:37
Martijn81kinky :p04:37
adam__looks like it's working........04:38
soulridererr, whats the command to unmount a mounted partition ?04:38
Martijn81adam__: you have to be in the right directory for type completion to work though04:38
sotiredumount04:38
Martijn81ok04:38
soulriderah04:38
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soulrideri thought it was unmount :P04:38
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sotiredyou would think04:38
[-Ghost-] is there a specific channel for Kopete where i should direct my webcam questions? or is my problem likely not kopete-specific and more related to me not knowing how to turn my darn camera on under Kubuntu?04:41
sotiredhey, while im here, anybody have anysuggestions as to what wireless pc-card i should buy for max linux compatability (doesnt have to support 802.11g)04:41
[-Ghost-] i'll say one thing for linux, so far it's very humbling....i've been doing pc tech support for years with windoze. lol04:42
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sotiredghost- so have i..you will get used to it04:42
adam__ok thanks guys. I think it worked04:42
Martijn81sotired: i guess-> http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=faq#which_is_the_best_card_to_buy04:43
farous[-Ghost-] : there is a program camorama you can use it to see if your webcam is working04:44
sotiredthanks04:44
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[-Ghost-] ah, so my camera should already be installed and working under kubuntu by default, and i just might have a non-compatible one for linux?04:44
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sotiredmartijn81: so these will all work with no hassle config?04:45
sotiredno ndiswrapper04:45
Martijn81sotired: can't say, i don't do wireless04:45
farous!cam04:46
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:46
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[-Ghost-] thanks kindly, got me some readin to do.....mmmmm, knowledge04:46
Martijn81sotired: but for what i read it's supported with the Atheros chipset04:46
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farous[-Ghost-] : mine just worked out of the box i still recommend to use thea camorama package to see if yours have the proper driver04:47
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farousit is usually under /dev/video0 or /dev/video104:48
[-Ghost-] i have an intel pocket pro pc cam04:48
[-Ghost-] they're not known for good driver support04:48
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Martijn81sotired: the ralink give a hit on wiki, maybe that help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ralink&titlesearch=Titels04:48
sotiredthanks04:48
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Bonezhi, i've just installed kubuntu-desktop (i'm normally a gnome user) where is the option to enable VNC server so I can remotely control KDE?04:48
sotiredim reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:49
farous[-Ghost-] : good luck the n :)04:49
sotiredseems helpful04:49
[-Ghost-] thanks for the tips farous :)04:49
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[-Ghost-] hmm, seems i already have the drivers installed04:51
[-Ghost-] under the libgphoto2 package04:51
zappixHaha04:51
zappixI just realized something04:51
zappixKonquerer can be used as an FTP client04:51
zappixjust be all04:51
zappixftp:\lalalalalalalalalalalacookiellamas.domain04:52
zappixand enter your username and password04:52
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[-Ghost-] really? cool i was gonna try swiftfox instead of Knoqueror, but it seems like Konqueror is a bit multi-talented, too useful to switch from04:52
dekwhere can i get repositories?04:52
serfdomerwhat command will show all the open ports?04:53
zappixTry your nose?04:53
zappix:P04:53
peteyhello04:53
dek:P04:53
zappixSerfdomer: What?04:53
serfdomerhey petey04:53
peteykubuntu is awesome04:53
anonconya how do u get the right repositores for kubuntu?04:53
serfdomerright, i need to know what command shows all open ports04:53
anonconi only see fore ubuntu04:53
serfdomeruniverse04:53
zappixon your router?04:54
zappixor..........04:54
farousanoncon: i normally use netstat tup04:54
zappixalright04:54
farousanoncon: you have to read more about netstat do not know the exact switches you need04:54
zappixI gotta go04:54
zappixseeya04:54
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anonconlol i wasnt askin about ports04:55
anonconi was asking about adding repositores for updates and more apps04:55
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serfdomeranoncon: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:55
farousoh that was for serfdomer sorry04:55
serfdomeruncomment the universe04:55
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farous!easysource > anoncon04:56
serfdomertried netstat..04:56
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anonconthat's cool thanks04:56
farousserfdomer: there are couple of package you can check at help.ubuntu.com such as ethreal04:56
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farouspick and choose04:56
serfdomerTHANKS!04:57
farousur w :)04:57
serfdomerexit04:57
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soulrider!easysource > dek04:58
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Leeifis there a cvs repository for ubuntu?05:12
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farousLeeif: there is a repos for the next release05:14
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farousbut what do you mean by cvs for ubuntu05:15
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Leeiffarous: well i need the cvs version of gnome-terminal and vte. im just looking for an easy way to install them.05:16
farousLeeif: ah ask in ubuntu room then :)05:16
Leeifok05:16
Leeifpeople dont answer there05:17
Leeif:p05:17
Leeifthats why im here05:17
[Relic] anyway of quickly merging text files?  I know in win I can copy everything into one file, not sure if that is possible with this   :)05:17
farousLeeif: you have to wait for the specific developer or perhas they do not know05:17
Leeiffarous: yes. in gnome everything just works :)05:18
farouscli > [Relic] 05:18
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farous[Relic] : easy way is use pipes such as file1 >> file2 will append 1 to 205:19
farousLeeif: agree :)05:19
[Relic] wildcards work?  say I have joe.map bob.map fred.map   I can use  *.map > all.map   ?05:20
farousi would use cat for that and it is double arrows05:21
farouslinux is known for the ease you can do that stuff relic05:22
[Relic] just trying to figure out this game design and I am not 100% sure of the way a few things work  :)05:22
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zappixNOOOOOOOOOO05:27
zappixGah DAMNIT05:27
zappix30 minute long upload05:27
zappixwas just about finished05:27
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zappixand it DIED05:27
[Relic] now it will be an hour upload?05:28
soulriderhas anyopne tried the ntfs-3g driver? I installed it and mounted hte partitions. I can access them thorugh /media/ but if in conqueror i got to media:/ and click on one of them i get an access denied error05:28
soulriderany ideas?05:28
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treyyis there a way to request unbanning from an irc channel05:31
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soulriderwho got anned? :/05:32
soulriderbanned*05:32
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treyyi was banned about a year ago from #ubuntu05:33
soulrider:O05:33
treyyi honestly can't remember why05:34
Hobbseetreyy: yes.  what'd you get banned for, and are you about to do it again?05:34
treyyi don't remember. it might've been flooding while trying to copy and paste a log file when trying to get help05:34
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Hobbseetreyy: try connecting now?05:35
timthelionyou get banned so often you don't remember?05:35
treyyyeah, that's definitely it.05:36
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treyyhobbsee, thank you very much05:36
Hobbseetreyy: er, um?05:36
treyysorry, that was directed towards timthelion05:36
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treyyhm05:38
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treyyno idea why it'd do that?05:40
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treyyis there a way i could talk to an admin from #ubuntu05:45
CVirusadmin ?05:45
CVirusyou mean a Ubuntu developer ?05:45
treyyop, i'm sorry05:45
Cornellius#ubuntu-ops05:46
CVirusno idea about that05:46
treyycornellius, thanks05:46
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apeman2020hello everyone05:53
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soulriderhi06:04
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apeman2020why does kubuntu log me in as root automatically?06:07
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Martijn81apeman2020: it doesn't06:08
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Snookhello06:09
apeman2020Martijn81:curious, mine is doing it all the time06:09
apeman2020Martijn81: on startup, right to root..06:09
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SnookWhy does koffice only copy text when using ctrl-c, paste. Instead of copying everything as in Word?06:10
Martijn81apeman2020: then you have set it somewhere i guess, normally with a desktop installation you have your own account with sudo access06:10
apeman2020right06:11
apeman2020Martijn81: normally that is the case, but with this build something is off..06:11
apeman2020Martijn81: ill take your advice!@06:11
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SnookWhy does koffice only copy text when using ctrl-c, paste. Instead of copying everything as in Word?06:12
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luisillohello anyone familiarized with Wine? installed with Adept but cant find it in k menu06:13
Martijn81snook: i don't follow, both the copy/paste and ctrl+c/ctrl+v do work here06:13
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SnookMartijn81: I needed to copy a paypal receipt. In Mozila I selected entire page, then I went to koffice doc and pasted, only text pasted.06:16
Martijn81luisillo: wine should work automaticly when opening an *.exe file06:16
SnookMartijn81: whe I did that in word, it copied graphics also.06:16
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Martijn81snook: i see, dunno about that sorry06:19
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Snookthanks06:20
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CVirushow can I switch between konqueror tabs ?06:22
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abattoirCVirus: Ctrl+. and Ctrl+,06:24
abattoirCVirus: you can of course change it Settings->Configure Shortcuts06:24
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CVirusthanks06:26
soulrideri just mounted 2 ntfs partitions06:27
soulrideri can go to /media/ and i see thema dn can access them06:27
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soulriderbut in konqueror in media:/ i dont see them06:27
soulriderany ideas of whats happening?06:27
ubuntukubuntu didnt install grub on my /dev/sda how should i do it manually?06:27
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abattoirhawhatwhat: did you choose XFS for your root file system(/) ?06:28
hawhatwhatit didnt let me choose anything06:28
abattoirsoulrider: 3.5.4 ?06:28
soulrideryea06:29
abattoirhawhatwhat: you used the live cd installer?06:29
hawhatwhatyes06:29
abattoirsoulrider: i heard something about a bug... not 100% sure though...06:29
soulrider:O06:29
soulriderok06:29
abattoirhawhatwhat: you should have got a dialog asking for the filesystem type for your partitions06:29
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hawhatwhatoooh06:29
hawhatwhatno i used ext306:29
hawhatwhatfor my root fs06:29
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abattoirhawhatwhat: hmmm... so any errors you got? about the Installer crashing?06:30
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hawhatwhati did get some06:30
hawhatwhatbut it continued06:30
kubuntutaotaowhere was the kde 3.5.4 downloaded?06:30
hawhatwhatpartitioned and installed06:30
abattoirhawhatwhat: could you pastebin the /var/log/installer syslog?06:31
abattoir!pastebin06:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:31
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hawhatwhatsure06:31
abattoirkubuntutaotao: you want the link for the downloads... right?06:31
soulriderkubuntutaotao: i got ti fromt he repositores06:31
soulriderrepositories*06:31
kubuntutaotaoabattoir: yeah06:31
kubuntutaotaosoulrider: what the sources was?06:32
soulriderlet me get ti for you06:32
abattoirkubuntutaotao: 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse'06:32
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soulrideryea06:32
abattoirkubuntutaotao: assuming you are on dapper... :)06:32
soulrideri used the Kde one though06:32
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soulriderthat has allt he KDE apps06:32
kubuntutaotaoabattoir: yaah,i am working on dapper06:33
hawhatwhatok i pastebin'd it06:33
kubuntutaotaoabattoir: thanks06:33
abattoirkubuntutaotao: yup, the link is good then :)06:33
abattoirhawhatwhat: link?06:33
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kubuntutaotaoabattoir: :)06:33
abattoirhawhatwhat: nvm06:33
hawhatwhathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1966206:33
abattoirhawhatwhat: are you sure that is the right file?06:34
abattoir /var/log/installer/syslog?06:34
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hawhatwhatim not booted into the sy stem cuz it didnt install grub06:34
hawhatwhatim on the livecd right now06:35
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abattoirhawhatwhat: aah, i want the file from the session which failed...06:35
kubuntutaotaoabattoir: had the bugs in kde 3.5.4?06:35
hawhatwhati tried mounting the partition i installed it on and it wont mount06:35
abattoirhawhatwhat:any specific errors?06:36
hawhatwhatill reinstall it06:36
hawhatwhatand post error06:36
abattoirhawhatwhat: ok :)06:36
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abattoirhawhatwhat: make sure you connect here when the installation is going on... we might need to see other files too...06:37
hawhatwhatthis is what it says06:37
hawhatwhatwhen i fire it up06:37
hawhatwhathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1966306:37
hawhatwhatthats same error as before there was no errors when it was installing06:37
hawhatwhatcant i just install grub manually now?06:37
abattoirhawhatwhat: yes, the installer has crashed.. grub may not be installed due to various reasons... hence we must see why... if you want you can try reinstalling grub...06:38
abattoir!grub06:38
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:38
hawhatwhatalright ill try that thanks06:38
abattoirhawhatwhat: wait, that doesnt have much info...06:39
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abattoirhawhatwhat: hmm.. ok, can you try reinstallation :P ?06:41
hawhatwhatno06:41
hawhatwhatshould i?06:41
hawhatwhati have windows on this drive to on another partition06:41
hawhatwhatso i want to keep that intact and dual boot06:42
hawhatwhatreinstalling now06:42
abattoirhawhatwhat: i dont think that'd be touched unless you choose to format that partition06:42
hawhatwhatdoes ubuntu not give u a root?06:42
abattoirmake sure you have that partition 'unchecked' when you come to the partitioning dialog...06:42
hawhatwhatroot user?06:42
abattoirhawhatwhat: you can become root by 'sudo'06:42
hawhatwhatand roots passwd is?06:43
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abattoiryou havent installed it yet? then the default user should have root privs.06:43
hawhatwhatits reinstalling now06:43
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capricorn_tmHi there^_^06:44
soulriderhi capricorn_tm06:45
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capricorn_tmI have a quick question, about the new KDE. what happens if I use the repository of Dapper for my breezy? It does not seem to be a Breezy package of 3.5.4 for breezy06:45
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Hobbseecapricorn_tm: it'll die horribly.06:46
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gregoryOpening any video in Kaffeine gives me just audio. The screen is black. (totem-xine and mplayer both crash on startup.) My processor is AMD and video ard nVidia, if that helps.06:47
capricorn_tmThat bad uh?06:47
gregory*card06:47
gregoryErr, I also have every codec I can think of installed, and to do that I used automatix.06:47
abattoirgregory: amd64 ?06:48
soulridera KDE splash screen is the thingy that appears when its loading right?06:48
abattoirsoulrider: yup06:48
soulriderok06:48
soulriderand  if i change it, will ti change the login screen too ?06:48
gregoryThe proc is amd64, but I'm using the 32-bit kubuntu build06:48
abattoirsoulrider: nope it wont...06:48
soulriderok, thanks!06:49
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abattoirgregory: what type of files? also could you check /usr/lib/win32 to check if the codecs are already present?06:49
abattoir*actually present06:49
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Kr4t05What's the compression rate for .tar.gz?06:50
gregorythey appear to be present. I've tried mpgs, wmvs, and a DVD, all giving the same result.06:50
abattoirKr4t05: i think that'd depend on the type of file...06:50
abattoirKr4t05: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_(file_format) might shed some info :P06:51
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hawhatwhatok abattoir it says installion complete reboot it told me this before but when it booted it loaded windwos and not grub06:51
abattoirhawhatwhat: it gives no errors?06:52
hawhatwhatnope06:52
abattoirhawhatwhat: what about /var/log/installer/syslog?06:52
wolfmanzabattoir do you have any idea why when i load up XMMS there is two process's running and between them they eat up about 70 megs of ram?06:52
hawhatwhat1 sec06:52
abattoirwolfmanz: no idea, i use amarok :)06:52
abattoirgregory: did you try mplayer?06:53
gregorymplayer crashes as soon at i try to open a video with it06:53
gregoryAs does totem06:53
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abattoirgregory: something is wrong w/ the codecs then?06:54
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hawhatwhathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1966506:54
gregoryIf that were the case, would I even get audio?06:54
faroushawhatwhat: did you install grub to the master boot record or eslewhere06:55
hawhatwhatit didnt ask me06:55
hawhatwhatit did it all on its own06:55
gregoryFor what it's worth, MP3s play just fine in any player.06:55
soulrider!karamba06:55
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org06:55
faroushawhatwhat: ok06:55
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hawhatwhati wish i had more involvment in the install06:55
faroushawhatwhat: normally it install to the mbr which should not give you probs. unless you have some sort of protection for it in your bios06:56
abattoirhawhatwhat: installation is not being completed properly from what i see... are you trying to install on the same partition w/o formatting it?06:56
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hawhatwhatno it did format it06:57
hawhatwhatit was checked06:57
kakaltois kde 3.5.4 fine under dapper?06:57
gregoryCould it be related to the fact that I'm using nv as my display driver?06:57
abattoirhawhatwhat: the installer crashes many times in the beinning... for some reason...06:58
hawhatwhatdo i have to set the ext3 to active?06:59
abattoirhawhatwhat: you mean flag it as bootable?06:59
hawhatwhatwell it says set to active06:59
hawhatwhati have my windows partition set to active and not the root06:59
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abattoirhawhatwhat: you could try the alternate installer if the desktop installer causes problems consistently06:59
gregoryinstalled nvidia-glx. BRB, testing.07:00
hawhatwhatwill it normally give me grub options?07:00
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hawhatwhatif i manualyl configure partitions do i have to manually format them to?07:00
abattoirhawhatwhat: you'd have to make sure the 'Format' option is checked in the last screen before installation07:01
hawhatwhatyea it aint working i dunno maybe i should go back to slackware i guess07:01
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hawhatwhatkubuntu looks good but it leaves you out of alot of the nesc. options07:02
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abattoirhawhatwhat: if you are comfortable w/ the command line, you can use the text-based alternate installer...07:02
abattoirhawhatwhat: should give you more 'control'07:02
hawhatwhatim using the gui installer07:02
intelikeythe installer on the live cd is a bad joke.  and i haven't seen anyone laughing about it.07:02
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digibre4khi...i need u're help...give me an idea...what kind of title about linux 4 my script...07:03
farousintelikey: no one is laughing for it is just bad not a joke :)07:03
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intelikeyfarous ah that explains it.   i though i missed the punch line....07:03
hawhatwhatis ther ealot of problems when u try to isntall on a sata drive or what?07:04
intelikey:)07:04
farous:)07:04
Kr4t05http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell <-- That should be in ubotu. :P07:04
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intelikeyi wonder why xorg can't access my mouse when i boot the 2.4 kernel ?    very sterange...07:05
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abattoirhawhatwhat: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/ you can try the alternate installer if you want07:06
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hawhatwhatwell if its not working here i dont really wanna mess arou nd with it anymore i guess i wanted to just check it out since everyones talking about it07:06
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hawhatwhati dunno a distro that does everything for you doesnt make alot of sense to me i guess07:06
intelikeyyeah root is only for the very brave or the very stupid     no ?07:06
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dekLinux doesn't recognize one of my NTFS paritions (I can see it from Windows). Any ideas?07:07
MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone!07:08
hawhatwhatdek is it mounted07:08
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MilhousePunkRockIs it safe to upgrade KDE to .4 now?07:08
dekthat's what I want to know07:08
dekit should be, all others are07:08
intelikeyhawhatwhat ubuntu is just another linux distro.  if you like linux you'll find things you like about *buntu  if you don't like linux then   well  you wont.07:08
hawhatwhatuhh? check it07:08
dekhow?07:08
hawhatwhatintelikey it has nothing to do with liking linux07:09
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MilhousePunkRockHey ratched jawed geek!07:09
hawhatwhatif i wanted a fully automated install i would use windows07:09
hawhatwhatthis is giving me zero options to configure anything07:09
dekhow do I check if my partition that doesn't appear is mounted?07:10
hawhatwhatdek what drive is it?07:10
hawhatwhatmount it manually07:10
dekdrive E: in windows07:10
intelikeyhawhatwhat sure it does.     i hate the installer on the live cd   with a purple pasion.   but when you get past the 'automation' and boot the thing and start configuring it to your liking     it's just linux.07:10
hawhatwhatmount /dev/hd?? /mnt/putithere07:10
dekok let me try07:10
hawhatwhatsee people like dek make it kinda lame07:11
hawhatwhathe obviously knows nothing about linux07:11
hawhatwhatand this automated version gives no options for grub is it supposed to?07:11
farousdek: mount is for root easier way try pmount as regular user07:11
dekof course, I installed linux today for first time xD07:11
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hi :)07:11
intelikeythat can be said for 85% of the people that use *buntu hawhatwhat07:11
abattoirhawhatwhat: come on, i gave you the link for the alternate installer, if you are comfortable w/ that please use it :)07:11
hawhatwhatintelikey well thats pretty lame you learn nothing from a point and click install07:12
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hawhatwhatabattoir: im just interested in knowing why your not given grub options to setup dual booting during the gui install07:12
hawhatwhatand if grub doesnt install wtf good is the gui installer?07:12
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Pablowhat does it mean when I am trying to compile madwifi and I get enable wireless extensitions07:12
intelikeyfarous prolly a low estimate.  but i was trying to be nice.07:12
abattoirhawhatwhat: the live cd installer is under constant development, and in a way is target at people who are new to linux, dont know what GRUB is...07:13
hawhatwhatubuntu is looking more an more like an AOL of linux distros to me07:13
moparisthebestdoes anyone know what this error means: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"07:13
hawhatwhatits pretty horrible to say the least07:13
moparisthebesthawhatwhat, then fix it or use another one ;)07:14
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hawhatwhatwell its been great my 1st and only experience with ubuntu i know now not to bother with it again07:14
intelikeyhawhatwhat while i agree with your opinion of the distro.  this is not the place for it.   stop trolling.07:14
hawhatwhatya07:14
hawhatwhattake it easy everyohne07:14
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intelikeymoparisthebest nvidia ?07:15
moparisthebestyes intelikey07:15
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intelikeymeans you don't have glx   i'd guess.07:16
moparisthebestI already installed the driver and ran the command to enable it, and restarted07:16
intelikeydid you follow the wiki on nvidia ?07:16
moparisthebestill look07:16
moparisthebestno, ill look at that too07:16
intelikey!nvidia07:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:16
moparisthebeststrange thing is it worked before :/07:16
intelikeyyeah.   ;/07:17
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MilhousePunkRockmoparisthebest: You need to change your part message, this is a family friendly channel...07:17
moparisthebestMilhousePunkRock, i didnt even know I had one, ill look at it :/07:18
Chaninvidia + xorg7.1 = pain, i thought...07:18
kakaltouhm07:18
kakaltoxorg7.1 broke compatibility with the binary drivers.07:19
moparisthebestoops, i did, done ;)07:19
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MilhousePunkRockmoparisthebest: No big deal, I noticed it a few times when you left, obviously there is no chance of telling you when you are not there anymore...07:19
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Hey!07:19
moparisthebestyea MilhousePunkRock , thats hard to do :P07:20
MilhousePunkRockIs someone else having problems to add Riddell's key for KDE 3.5.4?07:20
Chaninow I can't eember why I'm here07:21
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Can you help with with adding the gpg-key for 3.5.4?07:23
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Nevermind, was a typo... :-o07:24
gregoryI think i was half-right. It was apparently a driver issue, but installing nvidia-glx didn't help. It took some tinkering I don't entirely understand, but I have video! :)07:25
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soulriderdoes anyone knwo of a good app to synch a USB drive witha  folder?07:25
soulrideror just synch 2 folders07:25
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intelikeyi wonder why xorg can't access my mouse when i boot the 2.4 kernel ?    xorg works with the 2.6  and gpm works with both.    xorg is pointed at /dev/psaux just like gpm is... and both are set to ps/2        any thoughts ?07:29
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kakaltointelikey: you think that issue has something to do with udev?07:30
intelikeyno chance kakalto07:31
kakaltono?07:31
intelikeyi don['t use udev.07:31
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kakaltoeh? it's default in all kernels since.... 2.6.13 or something?07:31
Hawkwindudev is not default in the kernel07:31
kakaltono?07:31
kakaltohmm07:31
rr72anyone like in flames?07:32
ndazzarr72 they're not bad07:33
rr72ndazza~ some due i know just sent me a few songs, i don't do too much metal but its good07:33
CVirusisnt Kplayer in the repos. ?!!07:34
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ndazzaif my pci cards don't show up in lspci, what's the problem? tried with several cards in both pci slots07:34
CVirusndazza: try lshw07:34
CVirusndazza: sudo lshw07:34
CVirusndazza: maybe sudo lspci07:35
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SpAwNrr72, there decent07:35
ndazzaCVirus: ok ta07:35
CVirusnp07:35
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kakalto"udev is included in almost every 2.6 kernel based Linux distribution that is shipping" - is kubuntu not included? udev is on my system07:40
kakaltohmm07:40
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HawkwindIncluded and default are two totally different things though07:40
kakaltotrue07:41
kakaltoI was probably just thinking along the lines of it being default in gentoo >.>07:41
moparisthebestthat makes no sense07:42
rr72anyone ever try LFS?07:42
kakaltoyeh.07:42
moparisthebestI couldnt get my nvidia driver to work, it froze up when I tried to start the x server07:42
kakaltoheheh. ditto07:42
moparisthebestthen I booted an older kernel and it worked perfectly ;)07:42
kakaltowha?07:42
moparisthebestbut now my sound doesnt work :P07:42
kakaltolol07:42
kakaltorr72: I tried lfs once... kinda interesting learning and stuff...07:43
kakaltobut I must say I love the integration that comes from other distros.07:43
rr72i  like debian SuSE and kubuntu07:44
rr72top of my list07:44
kakaltohmm, I disliked SuSE07:45
soulriderhey rr7207:46
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kakaltohaven't tried any official debian distros07:46
rr72sup soulrider07:46
rr72kakalto~ why?07:46
kakaltoderivatives work07:46
kakaltokubuntu is fine07:46
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soulriderhey, you guys know anty program to synch folderS?07:46
soulriderim gonna need one07:46
kakaltoand I don't run a server or anything that I'd want to mess with debian stable for07:46
rr72synch?07:46
soulrideryea07:47
rr72why not just link em07:47
soulridersynchronize07:47
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soulriderlink them ?07:47
rr72why?07:47
kakaltosymbolic link07:47
rr72what are you doing?07:47
soulriderwtf is that07:47
soulrideri want to ahve a folde rin my pen drive07:47
rr72like a shortcut sort of07:47
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soulriderand in my hard drive07:47
rr72ah07:47
soulriderthat ahve exactly the same contents07:47
soulriderand say i modify th eone in my pendrive when im nto home07:47
kakaltoso a link wouldn't work.07:47
soulriderwhen i connect it to my comp07:47
rr72and u want it to update when u plug it in?07:47
soulrideri would like htem to get the same contents07:47
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soulriderexactly07:48
rr72im sure python would like this but i can't think in pythin07:48
Milhouse!ghost > Milhouse07:48
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rr72havent dealt with python for ever07:48
kakaltoI dunno if it's just for palmpilots, but I recall a synch package called 'kitchensync' or something07:48
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kakaltokde app07:48
rr72lol07:49
kakaltoit's a memorable name07:49
kakalto=)07:49
rr72love the name07:49
rr72;)07:49
soulriderlol yea07:49
rr72!ghost07:49
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>07:49
rr72lol07:49
rr72i knew that07:49
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MilhousePunkRockre everyone07:49
digibre4khaloouw.....07:50
rr72re?07:50
MilhousePunkRockAs in "Hi again" rr7207:50
digibre4ki have something question???07:50
rr72oh07:50
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rr72lol im pressing enter before i type cause i play a game and u talk like that07:50
kakaltodigibre4k: we can't help if you don't ask :)07:51
intelikeyanyone on the xorg mouse problem 2.4 kernel ?07:53
kakaltowhy are ya using 2.4 anyway?07:53
intelikeyso i can boot from a dos disk07:54
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kakaltoohkay07:54
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MilhousePunkRockWhy is adept wanting to uninstall kdelibs-bin?07:54
intelikeysomething conflicts with it ?07:55
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MilhousePunkRockintelikey: Doesn't look like it... Is there no 3.5.4 candidate version for it maybe?07:56
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock idk   apt-cache search    is your friend07:57
intelikey!info kdelibs-bin07:57
ubotukdelibs-bin: core binaries for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 795 kB, installed size 2488 kB07:57
MilhousePunkRockSomeone needs to update ubotu...07:57
intelikeythe bot has only 3.5.207:57
kakaltowell07:57
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kakalto3.5.2 is dapper release candidate07:58
noaXess_kubuntu!easysource07:58
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ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:58
kakaltoit's what's in the default repos, isn't it07:58
kakaltoto get any newer, you have to add certain repos - which ubotu doesn't seem to cover07:58
MilhousePunkRockI wonder why apt-get upgrade tells me 80 packets are held back anyway...07:59
intelikeydist-upgrade07:59
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intelikeyif you don't add dist- you don't upgrade the system.07:59
kakaltoI'm out07:59
kakaltobye07:59
MilhousePunkRockYeah, that works, thx intelikey aka ratched jawed geek08:00
intelikeynp yw08:00
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MilhousePunkRock!info kpilot08:02
ubotukpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 4308 kB08:02
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kameron_i'm having an error with make08:16
kameron_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1966708:16
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MilhousePunkRockOK, it looks like I am on KDE 3.5.4 now...08:18
grothesk_MilhousePunkRock: Does it 'punkrock'?08:18
MilhousePunkRockgrothesk: I hope so... I guess I'll have to restart KDE to find it out... The speed increase on 3.5.3 was really noticeable...08:19
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grothesk_Everytime there is a speedup.08:20
patrootredhatbonjour alll08:20
patrootredhatmy french08:20
patrootredhathello08:20
grothesk_kde will start before X somewhen.... *g*08:20
grothesk_Bonjour patrootredhat08:20
patrootredhatsalut08:21
nalphahow to share data??08:21
patrootredhatgrothesk_08:21
patrootredhatje suis ou l08:21
MilhousePunkRock!fr08:21
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:21
kameron_lol, i was about to suggest that, MilhousePunkRock08:22
patrootredhatmerci08:22
patrootredhattank08:22
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kameron_lol08:22
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bimberikameron_: install libx11-dev08:22
kameron_thank you, bimberi08:22
MilhousePunkRockI had to guess once for some eastern european language though...08:23
bimberikameron_: not too fast, try it first ;)08:23
grothesk_It was just a greeting in french.08:23
kameron_ok08:23
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kameron_grothesk_, then xe said, "je suis ou l"08:24
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juhakkiare you all kubuntu users?08:25
grothesk_I guess so in #kubuntu08:25
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juhakkii have tried it a little but that seems to be too heavy compared to gnome08:26
kameron_i installed kubuntu, but i'm in XFCE now. :-)08:26
grothesk_I like kde better, if there is recent hardware involved.08:26
grothesk_On older hardware I go for XFCE.08:27
grothesk_<--- Does not like gnome.08:27
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juhakkiI have fujitsu-siemens crap..:S08:28
kameron_XFCE is just effin fast08:28
juhakkiintegrated intel graphics etc..08:28
kameron_thank you, bimberi, that worked, it's compiled and installed!08:29
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kameron_and it works, on top of that!08:29
grothesk_I do have a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo L7300. Runs very good with kubuntu.08:29
bimberikameron_: yay! :)08:29
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kameron_it's x2vnc, which is great because i didn't feel like fooling with synergy08:30
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grothesk_Christmas? In august?08:30
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_rince_mrgn08:38
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rr72tink i should eat a 10 oz box of nerdz before bed?08:38
rr72Fri Aug  4 01:39:33 CDT 200608:39
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farid02Hallo Friends08:43
farid02any one know how to install KDE 2.5.4 ?08:44
farid023.5.408:44
crimsunthat would be noted on kubuntu.org.08:44
farid02cant fint it there08:45
crimsunyou can't possibly have tried at that hard.08:45
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crimsunit's the top news item on http://kubuntu.org/08:46
crimsunclick the link08:46
farid02you may be right..will try harder08:46
crimsunwhich takes you to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php08:46
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farid02thank you crimsun08:46
crimsunnp08:46
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MilhousePunkRockI had to set my KDM theme again, besides that, everything seems to be fine with KDE 3.5.408:47
farid02one more question..does Adept Updater not upgrade the KDE like it does all other software like Firefos and Thunderbird etc08:48
MilhousePunkRockfarid02: It does, if you have the right repos in your sources.list08:48
farid02what are repos ? please advise08:49
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MilhousePunkRock!repos08:49
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:49
sergeI must be dreaming08:49
grothesk_farid02: Please have a look at www.kubuntu.org08:49
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XVampireXouch08:49
XVampireXOk08:49
rr72whats wrong?08:49
farid02ok ok I am going there now08:49
XVampireXI don't know what happened but I'm using kubuntu now, and it's FAST08:50
MilhousePunkRockfarid02: The announcement for 3.5.4 tells you the right sources to add...08:50
unix_infidelXVampireX: wait till you use a more minimalist WM08:50
MilhousePunkRockunix_infidel: That brings me back to: Does anyone use e17 with Kubuntu?08:50
XVampireXunix_infidel: It's not my first time on linux, I just installed kubuntu back (I used to use kubuntu, but went to gnome)08:51
MilhousePunkRockXVampireX: What version of KDE do you have? If you had 3.5.2 before and are on .3 now, there is a noticeable difference in speed08:51
MilhousePunkRock3.5.4 is out for Kubuntu now, by the way, XVampireX08:52
rr72i use 341 :(08:52
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MilhousePunkRockwb unix_infidel08:52
XVampireXMilhousePunkRock: I think I used to use .308:52
XVampireXNot sure though08:52
intelikey342 is current in the repos  i think08:52
MilhousePunkRock3.5.2, intelikey08:53
intelikey!info kde08:53
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In repository universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB08:53
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MilhousePunkRockMorning emonkey-p08:53
emonkey-pMilhousePunkRock, moin08:54
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intelikeyhmm ?    oh yeah 352  what did i say ?08:54
intelikeyheh typo08:55
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MilhousePunkRockI am expecting the arrival of my additional RAM today, I guess I will have to resize my swap partition?08:55
pwnnyhttp://z6.invisionfree.com/Best_Damn_Sports/index.php?act=idx08:55
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock why ?     to you susspend to disk ?08:55
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intelikeythe installer on the live cd  demanded that i make a swap partition.   so i did.   then as soon as the install was over i converted it to $HOME08:57
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: I would if it worked, but with my video chip, the .15 kernel and Xorg, it's a no-go08:57
MilhousePunkRockSo is swap a big marketing lie? ;-)08:57
MilhousePunkRockI remember using WinXP without a pagefile, it was awfully slow, even with 1 GB of physical RAM...08:58
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock i have ran ubuntu hoary on 64m ram and no swap    used gnome   and kde in that env   you tell me...08:58
MilhousePunkRockI don08:58
MilhousePunkRocklol...08:58
MilhousePunkRockStupid enter key08:59
intelikeyyeah it's to close to  '08:59
waggle7622frackSorry to butt in, how do you resize swap when running from live Kubuntu with qtparted? Its using the swap partition.08:59
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MilhousePunkRockI don't care much about that 768 MB (or 1 GB if I resize it) of HDD space missing if I use swap08:59
intelikeywaggle7622frack you   sudo swapoff -a    then do the work.09:00
waggle7622frackthank you!09:00
MilhousePunkRockwaggle7622frack: AFAIK not if you don't explicitely tell Kubuntu to use it, or not?09:00
waggle7622frackIt found it on its own and added it to fstab09:01
intelikeyyeah it's screwy that way.09:01
intelikeythe coders thought that was a good idea.09:01
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juhakkiwhy it took so long kubuntu to find cd-rom..09:02
waggle7622frackIt's not a bad idea at all for most users that don't even know what swap is.09:02
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intelikeycause it checked for granet tablets, tape drives, mfm hard drives, and anything else you could think of.09:03
MilhousePunkRockwaggle7622frack: I guess people who don't know what swap is won't have a swap partition when they run the live CD, don't you think?09:03
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock if then have used the livecd to install *buntu they will cause the installer will have created a huge swap partition and they don't even know it.09:04
intelikeythen/they/09:04
intelikeythe n and the y are so close togather09:05
MilhousePunkRockWhat kind of keyboard do you use? n and y are either on the same row but not exactly close, or in different rows with one between them, intelikey09:06
MilhousePunkRockTake off your boxing gloves when typing... :-P09:06
intelikeyqwerty09:06
intelikey:)09:06
MilhousePunkRockSo the n is 2 rows below the y isnt it?09:06
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intelikeywell yes.... but you use the same fingure to press them both...      like duh.09:07
sotiredmy resolution on my laptop is stuck at 640 by 480 on  a fresh install09:07
sotiredi have an ati m4 agp09:07
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sotired32mb09:07
intelikey!ati09:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:07
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intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    <--- do that to reconfigure X09:08
sotiredi tried that09:09
intelikeyset the v-reftesh and h-sync correctly any you get more rez.09:09
sotiredwhen it tries to detect the monitor my screen goes white09:09
intelikeyso don't let it autodetect the monitor.09:09
intelikeythere is an option.09:09
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Ace2007hi09:11
intelikeywow  that line was bad.    'set the v-refresh and h-sync correctly and you get more rez.'    and if you don't typo like i do you don't have to redo as much.09:11
Ace2007can someone help me compile vlc swith qt, it can't find the headers which are in /usr/include/qt3/09:12
sotiredshit09:12
sotiredi dont know what to put for my monitor specs...its a laptop09:12
MilhousePunkRock!language09:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:12
sotiredim sorry09:12
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intelikeysotired http://monitorworld.com   and search.09:13
sotiredthnx09:13
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intelikeylaptop...   not sure monitorworld does that... google or your hardware makers site....09:14
sotiredit doesnt help because i dont know anything about the screen except that dell makes it09:14
sotiredive done that09:14
sotireddell doesnt acknowled the inspiron 8000 anymore09:15
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intelikeysotired i don't know much about lappys.  maybe someone with a dell inspiron  could answer you.09:15
intelikeysotired you can ask in #ubuntu   xorg is not kubuntu specific,  and more users in there.09:16
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sotiredi fried my install :)09:17
sotiredits ok...im going to sleep and ill worry about it tomorrow09:17
sotiredthnx anyway09:18
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intelikeyyeah come back any time and i'll tell you the same thing     :)09:18
waggle7622frackWhat is the most space needed for a root partition?09:20
intelikeyif you only have one partition it takes about 1.8g for the devault install09:20
intelikeydefault09:20
intelikeyi assume you mean least size ?09:21
waggle7622frackno, most09:21
intelikey5 billion tera09:21
waggle7622frackwant enough for install and some apps09:22
waggle7622frackrest of space for home09:22
intelikeywaggle7622frack how much room you got to play with?09:23
waggle7622frackand should home be primary or extended partition09:23
intelikeymakes no diff09:23
waggle7622frack20 gig 512 for swap09:23
intelikey4g root  maybe a few g for /var if you like.  the rest /home09:24
imbrandoni would do about 7 / and the rest /home09:24
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intelikeyand you would never be over 50% full on /  either.09:24
waggle7622frackwhat is var for again? I havnt messed with it before.09:25
imbrandonintelikey: depends i have alot of stuff in / ;)09:25
imbrandonintelikey: sides some wiggle room is nice09:25
intelikeywaggle7622frack the cache dirs    it houses data for apache   and the packages before unpacking are in /var09:26
waggle7622frackcool thanks, thats what I need.09:26
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intelikeyimbrandon sudo du -schx /*09:28
imbrandonintelikey: what for i know exactly what i have installed ;)09:29
imbrandonintelikey: alot of mine is diffrent chroots etc09:29
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imbrandonintelikey: but then again i have a 100gb / 100gb /home and a few other parts like 50gb /var etc09:30
imbrandonintelikey: ;)09:30
unix_infidelwhat a waste of space.09:30
intelikey100g /   and only 2or3 g used09:31
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intelikeyyeah unix_infidel that's what i'm saying.09:31
imbrandonintelikey: no actualy i just looked about 48 gig used09:31
imbrandon48.709:31
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rr73peace out intelikey and god bless ;)09:32
intelikeyrr73 right back at ya09:32
rr73intelikey~ ever hear from him lately?09:32
intelikeynot lately.09:32
intelikeya few weeks09:33
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eeoshi there. I cannot find the packae which contains slmodemd. Do you know where it is?09:49
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intelikeysl-modem-daemon09:50
eeosintelikey: why I cannot find it through adept????09:51
intelikeyapt-cache search is your friend.09:51
intelikey!info sl-modem-daemon09:51
ubotusl-modem-daemon: SmartLink software modem daemon. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5build1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1136 kB (Only available for i386)09:51
intelikeymultiverse ^09:51
intelikey!repos09:51
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:51
eeosintelikey: yes I know! but why I cannot see it in multiverse????09:51
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eeosintelikey: could it be that the package is not available for amd 64?09:52
intelikeybeets me.  it's there.09:52
intelikeyyep could be.09:52
eeosintelikey: I should be able to find and install the package, because I have the lib32 installed.09:53
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eeosintelikey: do you know how to set up a chroot space?09:54
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intelikeyeeos i have done it.  but probably not correctly.09:55
intelikeythere are wiki's on that.09:55
intelikey!chroot09:55
ubotuI know nothing about chroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:55
eeosintelikey: I saw it. frankly, I am scared.09:55
intelikeythe bot may not know, but i have read about...09:56
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krautmoin09:56
eeosintelikey: they always install debian in the chroot, I want to install 32 bit ubuntu09:56
aliasfredeeos you can install qemu and run inside it09:56
aliasfredfull safe :)09:57
aliasfred!qemu09:57
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo09:57
intelikeywhat's the worst that can happen.  1 someone breaks out of your chrooted jail   2 process hanges in chroot space...    pfft09:57
aliasfredyou can install any os in it09:57
eeosnever heard of qemu09:58
eeoswait I read09:58
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sF|Xemanthis there "quick launch" style box for kde? like small program launch buttons like in winblows09:58
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aliasfredsF|Xemanth: alt-f2 or katapult via alt-space09:58
eeosaliasfred: have you ever used it?09:59
sF|Xemanthhoho... i found quick launch applet :D09:59
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iliahi. If I dist-upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 it wants to keep back almost all of my packages.09:59
eeosaliasfred: qemu?09:59
aliasfredeeos: yep, running wino xp under it09:59
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eeosaliasfred: is it easy to setup?09:59
intelikeysF|Xemanth i like a command line in the task bar09:59
imbrandon!debootstrap09:59
ubotuI know nothing about debootstrap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:59
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aliasfredeeos: very. like 2 package to install and then install the os via usual cd10:00
imbrandoneeos: look on the wiki for debootstrap its EXACTLY what your wanting10:00
sF|Xemanthme too, but its nice to have box next to K button which has all my programs which i use mostly10:00
eeosdebootstrap only installs debian10:00
imbrandonto run 32 bit ubnutu in 64 bit kernel10:00
imbrandoneeos: no10:00
imbrandoneeos: it will install dapper too ( and many others10:00
imbrandon)10:00
eeosah! I read a bit about it but did not understand you could install ubuntu using it?10:01
imbrandonyes10:01
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eeoscan I install debootstrap without installing chroot / qemu or alternatives before?10:01
intelikeycan install anything that will run on your hardware using qemu ?10:02
imbrandondebootstrap is a chroot helper, one sec lemme get the link for you10:02
sF|Xemanthnow its  perfect <310:02
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eeosjust installed qemu, now I need to read a bit a bout it.10:02
aliasfredintelikey: well the point of qemu is more to be independant of you hardware. but yes it run quite a lot of things10:03
imbrandonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot10:03
eeosblimey, I read about deboot strap, but did NOT understand it was chroot helper.10:03
imbrandoneeos: ^^10:03
aliasfredeeos: btw here im just presenting the alternative, not saying it is the best solution for you. anyway i dont even know what are you trying to do :)10:03
imbrandoneeos: read that link it will tell you exactly how to run 32bit apps in a 32bit chroot on 64bit dapper10:04
eeosgetting more and more stupid with the passing time10:04
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eeosI am trying to run some drivers and packages that are not packaged for amd 6410:04
imbrandoneeos: thats what that was designed for then10:05
aliasfredeeos: and still keeping the rest as 64bit ?10:05
w00thi10:05
eeosyes, still keeping the rest as 64 bit10:05
aliasfredeeos: if so, qemu wont help you much :)10:05
imbrandoneeos: read that link it will tell you exactly how to run 32bit apps in a 32bit chroot on 64bit dapper10:06
eeosI am doing some experiments with 6410:06
aliasfredbut it is a very cool software, read about it anyway :)10:06
aliasfredyou can even boot livecd from it without rebooting your box10:06
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eeoswow10:06
sF|Xemanthhmm is there better systray applet? now applications take too much space in systray (one app vertically, I would like to have two)10:06
imbrandonaliasfred: mostly becosue qemu is slow ;)10:07
eeosanyway, I will read about debootstrap first10:07
aliasfredi would like to have some menu in konqueror for .iso which says 'boot with qemu'10:07
intelikeyaliasfred a 64 to 32 bit app solution was the origenal quest.   a chrooted env or opening a second system to run 32bit apps,     which would you think better/easier/safer ?    (i don't have a k8 btw)10:07
eeosdo you think using chrott + debootstrap will solve my problem10:07
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imbrandoneeos: yes10:07
intelikeyaliasfred script it.10:07
aliasfredimbrandon: clearly slower than native, but with kemu it is like only 50% slower. so perfectly usable and add many flexibility10:07
imbrandonaliasfred: vmware == native speeds10:08
eeosthanks! Talk to you later (need to experiment / read documentation)10:08
aliasfredvmware == non free and their web site is so full of buzzword that i never succeed to use it :)10:08
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imbrandonaliasfred: in that sense kqemu isnt free either ( closed source )10:09
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imbrandonvmware is free as in beer just as kqemu10:09
aliasfredimbrandon: indeed but i suceed to install it :)10:09
imbrandon;)10:09
imbrandonaliasfred: sudo apt-get install vmware-player10:09
w00tdoes any one know how to make my own spash screen?10:09
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imbrandonw00t: kde-look.org10:10
w00tsplash screen10:10
intelikeyvmware is free ?    where?10:10
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imbrandonintelikey: from vmware.com and in the repo, player and server are both free10:10
imbrandonas i said10:10
imbrandonaliasfred: sudo apt-get install vmware-player10:10
imbrandon;)10:10
sF|Xemanthoh yeah 3.5.3 available for dapper <3 <3 problems are fixed now ?10:10
aliasfredwhat is the 'server' ?10:10
sF|Xemanth3.5.4*10:10
imbrandonsF|Xemanth: yes10:11
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imbrandonaliasfred: it lets you run more than one at a time and create vm's not just run them10:11
imbrandonand connect to console remotely etc10:11
aliasfredi must be dumb or something, but isnt that the point of vmware to run more than one at a time ?10:12
imbrandonhrm i have to run , but goto vmware.com click on free virtualazation to read more, but the software is in the repos10:12
imbrandonaliasfred: more than one from the same console10:12
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aliasfredok anyway, the vmware package got some gui i could understand ?10:12
imbrandonbetter memory mgmt10:12
imbrandonaliasfred: yes10:12
imbrandonaliasfred: very simple10:12
aliasfredimbrandon: i mean as i cant understand their website10:12
aliasfredok nice :) i will retry then10:12
imbrandonbbiab10:13
intelikey!info vmware-player10:14
ubotuvmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)10:14
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intelikeyonly for i386 ?    does that exclude i686 ?10:14
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intelikeyor was that a generic i*86   but using the 3  ?10:15
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imbrandon_intelikey: 686 is a sub arch of i386 , its not really its own arch10:15
imbrandon_so in other words yes10:15
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imbrandon_yea any and all 686 stuff works with 38610:17
intelikeythis or that     answer    yes    hehhe10:17
imbrandon_and vice versa10:17
imbrandon_686 and 386 etc are all x86 , just sub arches10:17
imbrandon_i386 is the common denominator and used10:17
imbrandon_more often10:17
intelikeyso why doesn't smp work in 386 ?     (ignore that, i'm just pestering you now.)10:18
imbrandon_sure it does10:18
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w00t....10:19
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imbrandon_intelikey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-686-smp  <-- read that page , particularly the ARCH at the bottom10:20
imbrandon_you'll notice it says i386 ;)10:21
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ninHerhi all10:22
intelikeyhey .   if you've got answers, i have a real issue.    my mouse only works with either gpm or xorg  but not both    what might cause this ?10:23
imbrandon_gpm ?10:23
imbrandon_brb one sec10:23
intelikeygpm = general purpose mouse   mouse support for the consoel.10:24
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imbrandon_ahh no idea, never had a need for the mouse on console, thus never used gpm10:26
dekhow do I get my mouse's secondary buttons to work?10:26
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imbrandon_but i would assume both want exclusive access to /dev/mouse or /dev/TTYS010:26
intelikeyor /dev/psaux10:26
imbrandon_dek: as in ? right button ?10:27
imbrandon_intelikey: right , same thing10:27
dekbuttons at the left and right, I usually use them for "Back" and "Forward" in browser10:27
dekbut here they don't seem to work10:27
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imbrandon_dek: ahh you will need to confure the driver in xorg for that particular mouse IF there is linux support for it10:27
imbrandon_my sugestion is google to start off10:28
dekok =)10:28
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imbrandon_what mouse is it ? just curious ?10:28
dek5 button mouse10:28
dekOmega10:28
dekoptic :P10:28
imbrandon_i know that, brand, model ? like my 5 button mouse is a hp wireless spomethgin or another10:29
dekdont remember model, i have had it for quite many years now10:29
imbrandon_omega? heh yea you need to google10:29
jordan_I have KDE and XFCe can i install xgl only for XFCE ?10:29
dekxD10:29
imbrandon_jordan_: no xgl is an X server10:29
imbrandon_dosent matter what DE you use10:29
imbrandon_now you can just configure the composite manager for xfce, thats probbably what your wanting10:30
imbrandon_IE compiz10:30
intelikey!xgl10:30
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:30
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jordan_imbrandon_ so what's deieference between xgl on XFCE or KDE10:32
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imbrandon_nothing, XGL is the X server, the DE dosent care what X server you use10:33
imbrandon_you probably talking about the the "pretty" effects IE the composite manager compiz10:33
imbrandon_thats like asking what the diffrence between xorg and xfree86 ;)10:34
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intelikeyor sh and bash10:34
imbrandon_yea heh10:34
intelikeythere is a differance in both of the examples tho10:35
imbrandon_intelikey: yea but not where KDE / XFCE is concerned10:35
imbrandon_;)10:35
jordan_imbrandon_ so i can chose xgl, XFCe or KDE on start ?10:35
intelikeyxorg is a fork of XF86   and while sh is a symlink to bash on many systems bash when invoked as sh acts differently.10:36
imbrandon_jordan_: no , ok let me explain it real simple , real quick10:36
jordan_imbrandon_ oki10:36
imbrandon_right at this moment you have xorg installed, called an X server ( this is going to be a 10 min crash corse , simplified so dont scrutnize me intelikey )10:37
imbrandon_ok then ....10:37
imbrandon_KDE and XFCE invoke this X server to display their windows10:37
intelikeythat's what you think................10:37
intelikey>:] 10:37
imbrandon_if you insalll xgl , KDE and XFCE will both still invoke the xserver10:37
imbrandon_just the same10:37
imbrandon_infact you will notice 0 diffrence most likely10:38
imbrandon_but10:38
jordan_but....10:38
berkeswhat is the most forcefull kill signal (or command)? I have these runaway priceses that won't kill with a normal kilall or kill $pid10:38
imbrandon_the good part comes when you install and configure10:38
imbrandon_compiz the compisate manager10:38
jordan_compiz it's nice10:38
imbrandon_now you can JUST install that for xfce and get the "pretty" effect for xfce and not KDE10:38
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intelikeyberkes kill -9 -1   or   killall510:38
imbrandon_but xgl is just an X server like many others10:38
berkesthanks intelikey10:39
intelikeyberkes expect to be looking at a console login10:39
Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: ahah, you have even your kubuntu.org personal page :)10:39
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imbrandon_it just happens that compiz only works with XGL x server10:39
jordan_imbrandon_ ok so if i want have compiz a I need install XGLand then compiz ?10:39
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imbrandon_jordan_: correct10:40
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MilhousePunkRockThere is a composite manager for Xorg too though...10:40
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jordan_and compiz been only on XFCE10:40
imbrandon_MilhousePunkRock: yea i'm doing the simplified version here10:40
imbrandon_so as not to confuse him10:40
berkesintelikey: weird, even kill -9 dues not stop the proc10:41
imbrandon_jordan_: there are compiz versions for xfce kde gnome etc but you can choose to install it only for some or all10:41
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MilhousePunkRockwb abattoir10:41
jordan_imbrandon_ have you ever install compiz ?10:41
intelikeyand in short (just to recap)  XGL and compiz  are windomanager/desktop environment intependant.   so they work with 'nome/kde/xfce/twm/fluxbox/...10:42
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: thank you :)10:42
intelikeyberkes not kill -9     kill -9 -110:42
imbrandon_jordan_: a few times yes testing packages10:42
imbrandon_i dont use it day to day10:42
berkesintelikey: sure, but that kills all stuff, like a reboot almost, not?10:43
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jordan_imbrandon_ i can safty remove compiz and xgl ?10:43
intelikeyyes   you ask for the most powerfull10:43
imbrandon_jordan_: sure as long as you replace it back with normal xorg ;)10:43
berkesintelikey: the most powerfull to kill *a process*10:43
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dek!nvidia10:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:44
berkesintelikey: the Really Most Powerfull is UNPLUG10:44
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intelikeyif you didn't want the most powerful, then why did you specify that?10:44
berkesas in: pull the power plug :)10:44
jordan_xorg are beter then xgl ?10:44
intelikeyfrom a software standpoint  it's kill -9 -110:44
jordan_!xgl10:45
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:45
aliasfredberkes: kill -9 is the most powerfull at this, if the process doesnt die, it is blocked in a IO/waiting for another process aka it is not using any cpu10:45
berkesaliasfred: okay. i'll try to find aht is blocking it, then10:46
aliasfredberkes: pstree can help you at that10:46
aliasfredberkes: if it is waiting on another process, it is on a child process10:46
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berkesaliasfred: ye but it tells me nnothing usefull. I am investigating lsof now10:46
aliasfredberkes: if it is the case im talking about the waiting process is in 'defunct' state10:47
eeosimbrandon: I am back! I have set up chroot as you suggested10:47
aliasfredit should appears in ps/top/etc...10:47
imbrandon_eeos: gj10:47
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eeosimbrandon: one strange thing is that if I chroot in /var/chroot, and then I issue the command uname -ra10:47
berkesaliasfred: it is indeed in defunc state10:48
eeos imbrandon: it still tells me the kernel is amd 64. is that right?10:48
imbrandon_eeos: thats the running kern, dosent matter to the choot10:48
imbrandon_yup thats right, no biggie10:48
imbrandon_still 32bit userland10:48
aliasfredberkes so there is a child process which is not yet dead10:48
aliasfredberkes: look at the PPID = parent processus id10:48
berkesaliasfred: four in fact10:48
imbrandon_eeos: did you see the examples how to run software from it and all? good job10:49
eeosimbrandon: ok. the other strange thing, when I start the chroot, then I get 2 errors: cnannot find name for group 1000 (admin), cannot find name for gourp 101 (eeos)10:49
eeosimbrandon: is that normal?10:49
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intelikeykillall510:49
intelikeykill10:49
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intelikeykill kill kill10:49
intelikeyoh sorry.10:49
imbrandon_eeos: not really but also not a biggie, re go through the tut and make sure you dident skip something10:50
intelikeyberkes what is it that's defunct ?10:50
berkesintelikey: yea, but I'd like my apt-get update to finish first :p10:50
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berkesintelikey: amarok. I'm in #amarok too btw10:50
intelikeyah it resumes.10:50
intelikeyk i was just wondering.10:51
eeosibrandon: yes, I have already done it, I do not understand what is happening, it is like the new system is missing these 2 users10:51
eeosimbrandon: :-(10:51
intelikeybut apt will resume.    you issue the same command and it will pick up where it left off10:51
imbrandon_and it probbly is, there is a section on how to create thsoe in the tut10:51
intelikeyi do like that about apt.10:51
imbrandon_thats why i said go bac10:51
intelikeytypos.... is the crash course over,  can i play now ?10:53
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intelikey>:] 10:53
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imbrandon_lol10:53
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pkruminsStrange, I received free kubuntu CDs but the computer won't boot them. Boots other CDs but not kubuntu cds10:55
burepeWhat is the command that will tell me my computer specs?10:55
imbrandon_cat /proc/cpuinfo , depends there are diffrent ones10:56
imbrandon_thats for cpu obvious10:56
imbrandon_ly10:56
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intelikeyi had an issue with some of the deb packages using #!/bin/bash  rather than #!/bin/sh  in their pre/post* scripts   beleive it or not that can break things.   the env for sh is posix but the env for bash is user land joy  and can pull in unexpected command transiants10:57
imbrandon_pkrumins: try to pass the "other option" ( f6 key on boot kubuntu screen ) acpi=off10:57
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imbrandon_intelikey: file bugs10:57
intelikeyi'd have to register with *buntu for that....10:58
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pkruminsimbrandon, it doesnt boot at all10:58
intelikeyit's bad enough that i use it.  don't ask me to register also.10:58
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pkruminssays no bootable device found10:59
pkruminsone of my pcs crashed so i decided to take look at both kubuntu and at the hdd which failed10:59
pkruminsbut kubuntu just didnt boot10:59
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pkruminsso i booted simply ubuntu10:59
pkruminswhich did boot10:59
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imbrandon_pkrumins: bad cd then as they both use the EXACT same boot loader11:00
KabalRiddell: Is it safe to upgrade to 3.5.4 now?11:00
pkruminsi received 5 kubuntu cds and 3 of them didnt boot11:00
imbrandon_Kabal: yes11:00
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Kabalthanx imbrandon :)11:00
pkruminsdidnt try the other 2 since they probably wouldnt boot either11:00
pkruminsmaybe i got an older drive or smth and you are using some features which the drive doesnt understand or smth11:01
Tallia1Kubuntusomebody can tell me how to activate the oxygen layout?11:01
pkruminsi have no idea11:01
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pkruminsjust wanted to let you know11:01
imbrandon_pkrumins: not likely if the ubuntu cd's booted as i said they boot loader is EXACTLY the same down to the vyte11:01
pkruminsif it doesnt work for me, might not work for someone else11:01
imbrandon_byte*11:01
pkruminshmm.11:01
pkruminsthen there is something wrong with the cds i guess11:01
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intelikeypkrumins are you saying dapper cd's for kubuntu wont boot but dapper cd's of ubuntu will, on the same box?11:02
imbrandon_intelikey: yes11:02
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pkruminslet's see11:03
pkruminsi have kubuntu Version 6.06 LTS which doesnt boot11:03
pkruminsand ubuntu version 5.04 which does boot11:03
jordan_!xfce11:03
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:03
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pkruminsi am not expert in various ubuntus since i use slackware so i dont know about drapper version11:04
imbrandon_pkrumins: thats two diffrent versions11:04
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XVampireXhi11:04
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intelikeypkrumins yeah.   ok  that's what i was asking.    the hoary cd's were better imo.11:04
XVampireXI got kubuntu through ubuntu11:04
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imbrandon_504 is breezy 606 is dapper11:04
XVampireXAnd  I'm wondering11:04
pkruminsaha11:04
intelikeyno11:04
jordan_i use sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and how to start XFCE ?11:04
intelikey5.4 is hoary11:04
pkruminsah11:04
imbrandon_err yea horay, old old old11:04
intelikey5.10 is breezy11:04
XVampireXI have 3.5.2 installed, do I need kubuntu repositories for 3.5.3/3.5.4?11:04
intelikeyyeah a year old.11:05
imbrandon_jordan_: when your login window comes up there is a "menu" button11:05
imbrandon_XVampireX: yes11:05
intelikeywoo hoo11:05
XVampireXimbrandon_: where do I get them?11:05
jordan_i now but there aren't be xfce11:05
imbrandon_kubuntu.org ;)11:05
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jordan_only KDE :/11:05
XVampireX:-/11:06
intelikeywell i'll be using dapper until the next debian release.11:06
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burepewhat is the command to tell how big my hd is?11:06
XVampireXdf11:06
lowercasefdisk11:06
burepethanks11:06
imbrandon_df -H will tell you about your mounts or fdisk -l11:06
intelikeyfdisk -l11:06
intelikeylshw is good    if i understand your Q11:07
imbrandon_XVampireX: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php11:07
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jordan_imbrandon_  i now but there aren't be xfce on ly KDE and last sesion11:07
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pkruminsok, see you later11:08
imbrandon_jordan_: then you dident get it installed all the way and / or dident restart kdm11:08
pkruminsjust wanted to let you know the cds dont work11:08
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alex____sup guys.11:08
alex____my name sucks11:08
RSnakehey,I need help here11:08
imbrandon_alex /nick newname11:08
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RSnakeI want to change my languages but when I go to Regional/Languages I can only choose between English or British English, I've already installed a language Package11:09
alex____lol okay11:09
ricardohas anybody tested the new kernel 2.6.16.27?11:09
jordan_imbrandon_ the first I have one error :11:09
jordan_ http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 11:09
jordan_E: Nie udao si pobra niektrych archiww, sprbuj uruchomi apt-get update lub uy opcji --fix-missing11:09
imbrandon_jordan_: you need to fix your internet , apt-get update11:10
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intelikeyRSnake dpkg-reconfigure locales     if you mean you want to change it system wide11:10
RSnakewhere do I have to typ 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' ?11:11
imbrandon_konsole11:11
RSnakek,thx11:11
plugsdoes anyone have nicotine installed?11:12
intelikeyprepend sudo11:12
intelikeyit needs root permissions.11:12
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RSnakehow do I get root permissions ??11:13
intelikeywhy would a package sujest     Recommended packages:11:13
intelikey  linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 linux-image-2.6.15-23-k711:13
intelikeyi'm running linux-image-2.6.15-26-38611:13
RSnakeon Kununtu 'coz I've got Kubuntu11:13
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intelikeyprepend sudo11:14
bbtare there any unofficial repos with more recent / custom kernels ?11:14
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RSnakeintelikey,I don't understand this 'prepend sudo'-thing,I'm really new to Linux and such...11:15
imbrandon_RSnake: put "sudo" before the command11:15
imbrandon_to run as root11:15
intelikeyprepend means put this in front of...     sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:15
RSnakeok,thx :p11:15
intelikeywhereas append would mean follow with this...11:15
intelikeyand the password is your user password.11:16
RSnakeok,thx a lot11:16
intelikey!sudo11:16
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:16
intelikeyfor more info ^11:16
imbrandon_bbiab11:17
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Tallia1Kubuntu!multiverse11:17
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:17
Tallia1Kubuntu!easysource11:18
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:18
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RSnakeintelikey,I've done exactly as you said but still,I can't only choose between English and British English when I'm in Regional/Languages11:19
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RSnakeshould I reboot first ?11:19
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imbrandon_did you install the kde lang packs also11:20
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intelikeyRSnake yes i think at least an X reset is required.11:20
RSnakeI don't know,I just downloaded the NL Packages11:21
RSnakeok,I'll reboot and see if I can change it11:21
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intelikeyRSnake11:22
intelikeysudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-<your.nl>11:23
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Kabalsmall question.. is it possible to do a condump in cli?11:23
intelikeyhe'll have bulgarian console that he never see's  and kde unchanged.11:24
intelikeyKabal not sure what 'condump' is but i have yet to find anything cli couldn't do11:24
Kabalwith DOS it's possible.. in Quake also.. but how about deb? ;)11:24
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intelikeywhat does a 'condump' do exactly ?11:25
Kabalcopies the txt in cli to a file or whatever..11:26
AzzcoI've got a question... the bind Control + Esc, what does it perform? I mean what program does it run so that I can ru it even if  I change WM11:26
intelikeytee ?11:26
intelikeycommand > file.11:26
plugsi'm trying to open Adept and it says "Su returned with an error." any ideas?11:26
intelikeyuse gpm and copy and paste the screen.11:27
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Azzcologoff11:27
Kabalthanx intelikey I will try :)11:27
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intelikeyplugs means you can use sudo       to test this type   sudo echo yes11:28
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intelikeyif it asks for your password and then says yes.   you sudo ok.   if not,  you have no admin access.11:29
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intelikeyKabal you can redirect the output of files in two way,  the pipe |  or the redirects > and >>    using a pipe you can use the output of one command as the input of another  i.e. cat /boot/Config* | more     with the redirrects you can print the output to another file.   i.e.  cat /boot/Config* > lists    or  cat /boot/Config* >> lists     the first will use the more pager to let you read one page at a time the file/s in que11:33
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intelikeythat contains the output of the files in question and the last will add the output of the cat command to the file 'lists'  if it already exists, or creat it if not.11:34
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intelikeythe command  'tee'   lets you view normal output while also sending the output to a file    i.e.  cat /boot/Config* | tee lists    <-- that one prints to the file and displays the output      on the other hand   gpm=general purpose mouse    is console mode mouse copy and pasting like the gui.11:36
intelikeyKabal there are also ways to 'dump' the display buffer to a file or to standard out.11:37
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grotheskWhere do I configure modules to be probed in kubuntu?11:38
grotheskSomething like 'boot.local' in Suse.11:38
intelikeyspeaking of 'stdout'  something in cli use the 'stderr' standard error  to display text a normal redirect wont pick that up   use  2>  for stderr11:39
intelikeygrothesk /etc/modules11:39
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intelikeythat's  2>  or  2|  for piping11:40
intelikeyto tie stderr to stdout use  2>&1    then they will both be sent to stdout11:41
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intelikeycommand 2>&1 > dump.file     <--- all output including error messages go in 'dump.file'11:42
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intelikeymore than you ever wanted to know.     ;/11:43
luisillohello, what is the default path to Themes folder?11:44
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luisilloanyone know where is located the themes folder in the linux partition?11:45
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intelikeysome place in /usr/share   i'd think  but there may be more than one.11:47
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intelikeysearch     grep -HiRe theme /usr11:48
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luisillothx intelly11:49
Kabalintelikey: Thanx for all info :) got it noted11:49
intelikeyyeah  np guys.11:50
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KartiHi all11:51
egarimexist a file where could i put my iptables rules in /etc/init.d or could i add into rc.local ?11:55
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D4m4gehello12:12
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jordan_!xgl12:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:13
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rc--hello12:15
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LynoureDoes KDE quality setting for Ogg encoding automatically affect KAudioCreator?12:16
rc--how do I change my default session in kdm? (I apt-getted ubuntu-desktom) and now the default session is gnome, but I want it to be KDE)12:16
rc--s/desktom/desktop12:17
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LynoureKAudioCreator shows a commandline in it's Encoder settings and from that I'd kind of think it doesn't but if not, what does the KDE setting affect?12:17
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jordan_enybody: I look for them to XFCE12:21
rc--I searched the forums and read man-page for Xsession and Xsession.options, but I can't find out where to change the default xsession12:22
intelikey.dmrc12:26
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intelikeyrc-- nano ~/.dmrc12:27
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jordan_I have rendering on KDE but in XFCE no. how to get them ?12:28
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gan|y|medhallo12:32
gan|y|medare there any backports for dapper already?12:32
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gan|y|medhello?12:34
emonkey-pgan|y|med, official or some others?12:35
gan|y|medis there a conference or what is going on?12:35
gan|y|medwell, any.12:35
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gan|y|medofficial would be best, but i have some nasty problems so i'll take what i can12:36
emonkey-pgan|y|med, fore example there is a archive from the german kubuntu community with some nice packages12:36
gan|y|medwell tell me about it.12:37
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emonkey-pgan|y|med, here's some list of the packages: http://packages.kubuntu.de/dapper_complete.php?i18m=en12:37
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emonkey-pand there is another archive from the dutch ubuntu community with some nice packages (seveas)...maybe it is easier to help if you tell us more about your problem12:38
emonkey-poh... yes and of course there are official kde 3.5.4 packages fpr dapper12:39
emonkey-phttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php12:39
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gan|y|medoh that's nice!12:42
gan|y|medwell, basically i have several problems. one of it concerns kvpnc12:42
gan|y|medit is absolutely not reliable.12:43
emonkey-pok... good luck with the upgrades...maybe it helps12:43
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gan|y|medsometimes it starts (ps -A shows it) and takes space in the task line, but it is invisible12:43
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gan|y|medsometime sit starts just fine, but it cannot take the cisco passwords and user name out of kwallet.12:44
gan|y|medand sometimes it just works fine... any ideas?12:44
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emonkey-pgan|y|med, no I've tryed it for while with another vpn client, unfortunatley it hasn't worked any time12:45
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gan|y|medit has become much better, but still it is a mess. i wanna get rid of the command line for "normal work" (don't get me wrong, i love the console)12:46
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emonkey-pno prob, i know what u mean12:47
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gan|y|mednow it wants to remove kdelibs-bin! is that right?12:48
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emonkey-pgan|y|med, yes12:49
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emonkey-pI've the same and it works fine12:49
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ganymedsry, problems with wlan12:56
ganymedi am all the time losing my connection12:57
ganymedand nobody moves around a wall-mounted cisco router! that's really annoying!12:57
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ganymedemonkey-p: can you tell me where to find the german and dutch repos?12:58
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emonkey-pganymed, http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php?i18n=en&main=1&restricted=1&ubuntu=dapper&universe=1&multiverse=1&update=create&preview=1#list12:59
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emonkey-pganymed, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages?highlight=%28seveas%2901:00
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ganymedthx01:02
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XVampireXHi, how do I install nfs in kubuntu?01:13
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XVampireXCan anyone help?01:16
jottXVampireX: install nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server01:16
XVampireXwhich one?01:16
jottXVampireX: i use the kernel one.. works fine here..01:16
XVampireXalright :)01:16
jottXVampireX: you have to setup /etc/exports and hosts.allow and things like that of course..01:18
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XVampireXjott: Oh :D01:19
XVampireXjott: can't I configure it through the GUI?01:19
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jottXVampireX: uhm... can't tell you.. i guess there is a gui - but never needed one ;-) do a "man exports" ...01:20
ganymedok, i cannot use pastebin, it doesn't work (time-out) so i'll paste a few line here.01:20
jottXVampireX: in a secure environment you probably do not need to restrict host access...01:20
ganymedi get this error when i start almost ANY app. it costs me at least one second, which is very annoying when using apwal.01:21
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ganymedX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16801:22
ganymed  Major opcode:  14801:22
ganymed  Minor opcode:  301:22
ganymed  Resource id:  0x001:22
ganymedFailed to open device01:22
ganymedand this twice. does anybody have this problem?01:22
__osh___ganymed: that's a xorg.conf thing about some weird pointer device. it's not harmful.01:22
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jottganymed: looks like the wacom input devices defined by default in the xorg.conf01:23
ganymedso i just deactivate it?01:23
__osh___jott: right, that weird pointer device...01:23
ganymedit is very "harmful" for my workflow01:23
__osh___ganymed: if you like to. can't hurt i suppose.01:23
jott__osh___: not that weird - i got one ;) but the default config is weird indeed ;-)01:24
__osh___jott: what is it then? a mouse? I have no idea.01:24
intelikeyyes.  if you don't have any wacon devices remove all three in the xorg.conf and don't forget to remove the refferances to them at the bottom of the xorg.conf01:25
intelikeytablet01:25
jott__osh___: no this tablet things with pen.. or even a tabletpc with a touchpad...01:25
ganymedintelikey: thx for the hint01:25
__osh___jott: right. a weird input device, as in "not a keyboard, which is the true and right way to communicate with a computer". ;-)01:26
ganymedwell, seems like one of the xorg developers has one :)01:26
ganymedthx for your help01:27
ganymedi am going to restart now. upgrade :)01:27
jott__osh___: hehe yeah disable all pointer devices under X.. who needs a mouse anyway ;-)01:27
ganymedjott: you don't believe how fast you can e with a mouse01:27
intelikeyno prolly not.   more like one of the ubuntu team trying to make wacom 'just work' in *buntu01:27
__osh___jott: who needs X anyway. I've actually WORKED with punchcards. Not many people have done that today...01:28
ganymedit is not the mouse, it is the conventional way mouse interfaces are designed01:28
nagyvhello! anyone to help me in synching my mobile with korganizer? it's a Sony-Ericsson D750i.01:28
ganymedthe m$ way. ups, that's the way kde uses...01:28
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jottbut one of those would be nice to have: http://www.wacom.com/pressinfo/photography/21UX_Illustration_lg.jpg  ;-)01:29
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ganymedwell, that has sth.01:30
ganymedciao01:30
intelikeyanyone here good with mouse problems ?     my ps2 two button wont work with xorg and gpm at the same time.  but will work with either.    any takers ?01:31
jottintelikey: i guess gpm blocks the device ;)01:31
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[Nige] hi all,01:32
jottintelikey: afaik there is a gpm driver for X .....01:32
intelikeyhmmm.01:32
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intelikeyjott doesn't turn up in an apt-cache search01:33
[Nige] I am having some huge problems with ati and big desktop - I cant seem to set my default display to use 2560x1024 i keep getting 1280x1024 and only 1 monitor function correctly01:33
jottintelikey: check if you have a /dev/gpmdata01:33
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[Nige] if i type xrandr -s 11 ( which is 2560x1028) its works fine but I have to manually set that everytime.. its annoying.... this is an ATI raedon 9550 :(01:33
nagyv[Nige] : which ATi driver are you useing?01:33
intelikeyjott ype01:33
intelikeyyep01:33
[Nige] nagyv,  i am sure its the latest01:33
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[Nige] nagyv, OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10)01:34
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[Nige] 8.27.1001:34
jotttry this one as X mouse device.. but without garantee ;) haven't used gpm since like 8 years ;)01:34
nagyv[Nige] : you mean the proprietary drivers?01:34
intelikeyjott tried.  no go.01:34
nagyv[Nige] : there are three possibilities radeon/ati, fglrx, proprietary01:35
intelikeylike i said mouse works in 'either or'  but not  'and'01:35
[Nige] nagyv, thse where the proprietary ones from ati site01:35
jottintelikey: there are some config for gpm to act as a repeater as far as i remember...01:36
grotheskWhy is .xsession-errors flooded by each app that is running?01:36
intelikeyjott yep set to     device=/dev/psaux01:36
intelikeyrepeat_type=ms301:36
intelikeytype=ps201:36
nagyv[Nige] : do you need it for sure? did you tried the other ones?01:36
grotheskMine is 2,3 MB now after 2 hours uptime.01:36
[Nige] i have tried the fglrx and same problem01:37
[Nige] i am pretty sure I have tried all three01:37
[Nige] both do the same thing....01:37
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jottintelikey: The gpm repeater mode. If you start gpm with the "-R protocol" option, it will repeat all data it gets to the device /dev/gpmdata. Let us say, you have a ps2 type mouse and your gpm call looks like: gpm -t ps2 -Rmman then gpm gets your ps2 mouse data and tries to translate this into a mman packet, which it will emit to /dev/gpmdata. Unfortunately, gpm can translate to only a few protocols at the time of writing. Since gpm 1.18.1, these protocols to 01:38
jottintelikey: just a quick "google hint" .. ;)01:38
intelikeyjott commonly used command here.  tty6 [root#~]  gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -R ms301:39
jottintelikey: hm.. and the gpmdata won't give you output? (like with cat /dev/gpmdata and move the mouse around)?01:40
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intelikeyyeah but the mouse don't move in X01:41
jottintelikey: but as i said i haven't used gpm for years so i can't really help you ... just blind guesses ;)01:41
jottintelikey: maybe the driver selected for the mouse does not match the protocol the gpmdata gives...01:41
intelikeydriver selected    where ?01:42
intelikeyin xorg.conf ?01:42
jottintelikey: yes... as long as cat /dev/gpmdata gives some output i guess xorg needs an other driver.. but don't ask me which one ...01:42
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intelikeylet me be forth comming with some pertanant info.    it works with kernel version 2.6.*  but i'm using 2.4.*01:43
jottintelikey: probably the ps2/ms3 stuff01:43
rootis there a ubuntu chat client I can use to talk to people using msn?01:43
intelikeyapply that to the same configs.   ^01:43
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intelikeyroot gaim  does msn iirc   i don't do windows.01:44
intelikeyhooper ^01:44
jottintelikey: hm strange.. no clue... :/01:44
hoopergaim?01:44
intelikeyjott yeah me too.    thanks for the time of day though.01:44
jottnp01:44
intelikeyhooper it's an app on your system01:44
hooperk ;)01:45
jotthooper: for "k"ubuntu there is also kopete that supports msn....01:46
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intelikeyjott last fellow i talked to about this also wanted to know why i use 2.4 kernel   just in case you wondered i don't need an initrd and can boot from a dos floppy with the 2.4  the bare kernel wont fit on there for 2.6 and it also needs a 5m initrd    as things stand atm i'll be using the 2.4 for a while.01:48
jottintelikey: sure i thought it was on purpose ;)01:48
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intelikeyjust thought you might be like most and wondered why.01:49
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intelikeykrap.  cant use the deb of vmware player cause it uses kernel 2.6.15-23    while the updater updated mine to 2.6.15-26      so the packages in the repos are out of sync it seems.01:52
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intelikeyi guess i could find the older deb and install it...   three kernels  </shakes head slowly>01:53
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BazziRintelikey: 2.6.15-23 should be still on your disk, shouldn#t it?01:55
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BluesKaj'Morning folks !01:55
BazziRand you might enable another repos to get vmware player updates01:55
BazziR+have to01:56
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Pupenodoes anybody know of a tool to generate XMLRPC requests ?01:57
BluesKajwhat's the kernel version cmd ?...I forgot01:58
PupenoBluesKaj: uname01:58
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intelikeyBazziR i don't normally keep things around long unless i think i might need to reinstall it.01:59
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BluesKajPupeno, that just says linux01:59
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intelikeyBazziR thus updated kernel version stay long enough to make sure the new one boots.01:59
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BazziR:)02:00
intelikeyBluesKaj man uname02:00
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BluesKajintelikey, i guess I'm not clear ..just like to know which kernel version number 2.6.1 or whatever it is ?02:03
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grothesk_*rant-mode*02:04
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grothesk_Yesterdays kernel update messed up my udev rules. Soundcards were switched, so that mixer of my tvcard was snd0 und my main card was snd1.02:05
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grothesk_I mean, I can configure it by myself (blacklisting saa7134 module and modprobing it later on...), but how should a so called newbee cope with it?02:06
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Russelhiho02:07
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Russeli have a little problem: kaffeine hangs at: kaffeine: WARNING: KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one...02:08
Russelany solutions?02:08
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gbrhallo, hoe kom ik aan geluidskaart drivers?02:11
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BluesKajComplete Linux kernel on 386.02:15
BluesKajThis package will always depend on the latest complete Linux kernel available02:15
BluesKajfor 38602:15
grothesk_gbr: English please...02:15
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BluesKajdoes the above mean the kernel is self updating whenever a newer stable kernel is available ?02:16
grothesk_BluesKaj: Yes.02:16
BluesKajcool , thx grothesk02:17
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gbrHello, I'm looking for drivers for my sound card cmi 8738. Can you help?02:18
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grothesk_gbr: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8338%2C+CMI8738%2C+CMI8768&module=cmipci02:30
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grothesk_gbr: Bur normally it should already run out-of-the-box.02:31
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grothesk_gbr: Try: modprobe snd-cmipci02:32
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sjkI downloaded the latest release of Kubuntu for the powerpc yesterday. I'm trying to install it on my Mac PowerBook G3 today. I get to the point where the installer tries to install the boot loader Yaboot, and I get the following error: "The installation of the yaboot loader failed. Please check the system log or the output on the third console. Warning: your system may be unbootable!"02:33
gbrthanks grothesk, I will try this immediately.02:33
sjkDoes anyone have any hints to give me? And, where's the system log?02:33
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rodrigo_Somebody could qive me the spanish channel?02:53
cwraigsorry no idea02:54
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BluesKaj!es02:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:54
iliahi. Can I customize a 64bit LiveCD from a 32 bit Kubuntu (on a 64bit PC)?02:54
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rodrigo_ubotu: thank you very much!02:54
ubotuI know nothing about thank you very much! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:54
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BluesKajhehe02:54
BluesKajilia are you running 32 bit right now ?02:55
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iliayes, on a 64bit pc02:55
iliaI`ll chroot to the 64bit version to edit it, then build the casper image02:55
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BluesKajkeep it that way ...the 64 bit didn't work very well on my 64 bit pc and I was advised to switch to 32bit, which I did due to the problems with broken pkges on the 64 bit vers02:56
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BluesKajsounds like you know more about compliling a kernel than I do :)02:57
BluesKajcasper ?02:57
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iliathe livecd image is called "casper"03:00
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ricardohi...anybody used to XSLT?03:11
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shadedpastis there a kubuntu equivilent of synaptec?03:22
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jfroanybody know why i'd get a failed to create driver error when adding a printer with the system settings printer tool03:23
abattoirshadedpast: 'adept' KMenu->System03:23
shadedpastis there a program on kubuntu like synaptic for ubuntu?03:23
shadedpastk03:23
Jack1how can i configure konqueror that it always starts up with the f9 menu on the side?03:24
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nnn0shadedpast: aptitude03:24
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shadedpastthnx03:24
nnn0shadedpast: or Adept maybe03:24
shadedpastis aptitude like apt-get?03:24
nnn0Adept should be on the mennu03:25
jfroit's adept in kde03:25
abattoirJack1: you can save it in a 'view profile' and load that profile when you launch konqueror03:25
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shadedpastwhat is the command like apt-get is that also adept03:25
cwraig_what?03:25
shadedpastsrry for being a noob03:25
Jack1abattoir i have only view mode..03:26
cwraig_adept is the update manager that is based on the apt-get command line03:26
abattoirJack1: you can save it in that if you want... else you can create a new one03:26
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abattoirshadedpast: you can use 'apt-get' too03:26
shadedpasto thnx03:26
cwraig_apt-get is the system that manages downloading and installing packages03:26
shadedpastthat was what i wanted to know03:26
Tallia1Kubuntusorry guys, i need a hand with c++03:27
cwraig_and programs like adept (kde) and synaptic (gnome) are simply gui interfaces for apt-get03:27
Jack1ok thx abattoir03:27
Tallia1Kubuntui use the following line to compile my program: gcc -I/usr/include/libxml2/ -L/usr/lib/ -llibxml2 main.c03:27
cwraig_i know its not a very kde thing to do but the first thing i do on a kubuntu install is sudo apt-get install synaptic03:28
Tallia1Kubuntubut what i get is that he can't find libcml203:28
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cwraig_its a better gui package manager then adept03:28
jfrohmm03:28
Tallia1Kubuntulibxml2*, i think i put the wrong value as pre-last argurment ( -l ), somebody of you can help me?03:28
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jfroi haven't had much prob with adebt, i shoudl try synaptic tho03:28
ubuntu_hi guys03:29
jfroTallia1Kubuntu: -lxml203:29
cwraig_hi03:29
Tallia1Kubuntuok, let me try03:29
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ShinzetsuCan someone help me? I ran ScummVM and all of a sudden my sound is gone03:29
jfro-l implies lib afaik03:29
ubuntu_im starting on Linux world03:29
Tallia1Kubuntujfro: have you ever used it? just to know :)03:29
Tallia1Kubuntuoh, i see03:29
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jfroyeah i compiled a small libxml2 app once, well libxslt03:29
ubuntu_im installing Kubuntu03:30
Tallia1Kubuntuohhhh, you are right!!, glut and libGlut.so03:30
Tallia1Kubuntu:D03:30
Tallia1Kubuntuthanks jfro03:30
Tallia1Kubuntui really hope it will work :P03:30
jfro:)03:30
shadedpastwhat is the text editor for kubuntu lol03:30
cwraig_<ubuntu> you like it?03:30
cwraig_kate03:30
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cwraig_sorry <shaded> kate is the editor03:31
shadedpasto ok03:31
shadedpastand where is sources.list located03:31
cwraig_<shaded> /etc/apt/sources.list03:31
shadedpastis it the same?03:31
shadedpasto thnx03:31
cwraig_<shaded> the same as what?03:31
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Tallia1Kubuntujfro: grrrrr, the guy i was helping left... no comment ...03:32
jfroah ha, printer driver isn't installed it looks like, might have found my prob =P03:32
ShinzetsuMy sound icon in the tray is also gone03:33
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jfrognome-cups-manager wins03:35
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Shinzetsusomeone?03:36
shadedpasteverytime i try to use kate i get "ERROR: cummunication problem with kate, it probably crashed"03:37
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TheGateKeepershadedpast: from the cli?03:37
shadedpastwhat? cli03:38
shadedpast???03:38
shadedpasti type it in the konsole03:38
shadedpastim trying to edit sources.list03:38
TheGateKeepershadedpast: <C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterpreter i.e. konsol03:38
TheGateKeeperok03:39
shadedpastoh ok03:39
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TheGateKeepergo to Run Command... and type in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:39
Tallia1Kubuntujfro: do you have any idea of what this means? warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness03:39
Tallia1Kubuntuin the c++ compiler03:39
shadedpastk03:40
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jfroTallia1Kubuntu: not entirely, just that you have one variable that maybe is unsigned and assigning it to something signed, or vice versa, maybe03:40
jfrodoesn't ncessarily mean it won't work tho, hehe03:40
Tallia1KubuntuxmlChar * xpath = "/foo[@bar='baz'] ";03:40
shadedpastnothing happens03:40
Tallia1Kubuntui don't really know what this mean :P03:41
Tallia1Kubuntumeans*03:41
jfroTallia1Kubuntu: does it work at least?03:41
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Tallia1Kubuntuthink so.. no errors after make03:41
Tallia1Kubuntu:)03:41
Tallia1Kubuntuthanks a lots jfro :D03:41
jfronp03:41
TheGateKeepershadedpast: can you start Kate from your utilities menu?03:41
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cwraig_i dont think that kate is on the menu03:47
jfroaww it isn't03:47
jfrohehe03:47
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fredrik_hello03:48
fredrik_need help03:48
fredrik_=)03:48
jfroblah, back to work03:48
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fredrik_how do i format my disc??03:48
eeoshi there. I think I dentified one of the reason why cups 1.2.2 does not work after install on amd6403:48
fredrik_the c: drive?03:48
eeosI want to check my findings03:48
fredrik_and how do i switch server? to efnet?03:49
eeosanyone who is investigatng this issue is here?03:49
cwraig_<fredrik> you need Qtparted03:50
fredrik_what?03:50
fredrik_i want to format it that i can install xp, then i can split my hdd and install kubuntu too03:50
fredrik_but my computer dont accept xp now. it can find the hhd in xp install03:51
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Vliegendehuiskatallright03:52
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Vliegendehuiskatanyone awake?03:52
cwraig_fyea03:52
cwraig_im awake03:52
cwraig_yea there is a partitioner called qtparted03:53
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Vliegendehuiskathm03:53
Vliegendehuiskatprolly03:53
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cwraig_its on the knoppix distro if you cant get it for kubuntu03:53
cwraig_i know you can apt0get it03:53
Vliegendehuiskathm03:54
Vliegendehuiskatand what my problem is is that i don't have a clue about cif webcams in linux03:54
cwraig_nup i cant help ya03:55
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BluesKajok I've DL'd and extracted Flashplayer as instructed and tried to run trhe installer as instructed in the notes , but I keep getting this message .. bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory03:56
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TheGateKeeperfrhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=linux+tutorial03:57
baskewBluesKaj: maybe you need to cd into that dir you just extracted03:57
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ShinzetsuI  ran ScumMVM and now my sound is gone (also the sound icon in the tray)03:58
BluesKajbask how ?03:59
TheGateKeeperfredrik_: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=linux+tutorial03:59
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BluesKajbaskew,03:59
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baskewBluesKaj: you need to unpack the installer (if you haven't already) then do "cd <unpacked_dir>" with out quotes, and <unpacked_dir>= whater the name of the dir is when you unpacked it04:00
BluesKajok , baskew , I'm there , now what ?04:00
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otamendimbuenos dias, disculpen alguien podria ayudarme a aclarar una duda04:00
baskewBluesKag: do an ls -al do  see if the flashplayer_installer is there04:00
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baskewBluesKag: if so, then you should now be able to ./flashplayer-installer04:01
BluesKajok  baskew , got it ,thz :)04:01
otamendimtengo kubuntu, y cuando intento guardar un archivo de openoffice en un dispositivo extraible como un pen drive o diskette,...04:01
BluesKajthx04:01
baskewBluesKKag: np04:01
otamendim...me dice que salvar usando el protocolo media no esta soportado04:02
otamendimsi alguien puede ayudarme se lo agradeceria, GRACIAS04:02
abattoir!es04:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:02
abattoirotamendim: apt-zip might be useful04:02
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ubuntu_woooot04:02
ubuntu_i have a big problem04:02
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ubuntu_i cant install Kubuntu with Win XP on my SATA drive04:03
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ubuntu_:(04:03
Shinzetsusomeone?04:03
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otamendimthank you man, I'm sorry04:03
ubuntu_I get an error : Fail loading SO04:03
baskewsorry Shinzetsu,  dont know04:04
ubuntu_damnit04:04
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BluesKajhmmm ,04:04
BluesKajPlease ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the04:04
BluesKaj      components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.04:04
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baskewBluesKaj: just move that file, like mv /usr/local/mozilla/components/xpti.dat /usr/local/mozilla/components/xpti.dat.BACK or something04:05
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baskewBluesKag: I dont know where the mozilla dir is exactly, im not on my machine right now04:05
baskewBluesKaj: if you install it in your home dir look in ~/.mozilla04:06
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baskewBluesKaj: if you cant find it try locate xpti.dat04:08
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dhqis there any tool like dreamweaver for kubuntu04:09
grotheskdhq: nvu04:10
grothesk!nvu04:10
ubotuI know nothing about nvu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:10
grothesk:-(04:10
BazziR!info nvu04:10
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB04:10
abattoirdhq: quanta too04:10
grothesk<--- Stupid...04:10
ubuntu_damn i need help04:10
abattoir!info quanta04:10
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB04:10
dhqabattoir: is it a easy interface04:11
ubuntu_i have formated hard disk seven times04:11
ubuntu_i cant run linux with XP04:11
ubuntu_GRUB sux04:11
abattoirdhq: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/screenshots.php04:12
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grotheskubuntu_: GRUB even boots a OS from a piece of paper where 'OS' is written on...04:13
Gh0st75mornin folks04:14
gplfightermorning?04:16
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gplfighterhere it is 4.15 pm04:16
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Gh0st75well, mornin where i am.....11:45am here04:19
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gplfighterlol04:19
gplfighterus?04:19
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Gh0st75nope, Newfoundland, Canada04:19
gplfighterk04:19
ubuntu_SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX04:19
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gplfighterow, ther :-)04:20
Gh0st75easternmost part of north america, heh04:20
gplfighteri see04:20
ubuntu_im hating kuguntu04:20
ubuntu_IAIAHAHAA04:20
gplfighter?04:20
gplfighterwhy?04:20
ubuntu_i have a headache04:20
ubuntu_:((04:20
ubuntu_its imposible04:20
gplfighter:p04:20
ubuntu_i want use linux04:20
ubuntu_but04:20
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baskewubuntu_: have you prepared the disks properly04:21
ubuntu_i cant install Kubuntu and XP04:21
baskewor disk04:21
Gh0st75i have kubunto and xp dual booted for lan gaming purposes, i didn't have any trouble at all, and am first time nix user04:21
ubuntu_:S04:21
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baskewi dua boot xp, and ubuntu as well04:21
ubuntu_i have kubuntu 6.06 CD04:21
baskew*dual04:21
ubuntu_and XP SP204:21
ubuntu_at first04:21
ubuntu_i install XP on my SATA04:22
ubuntu_next, i install kubuntu04:22
Gh0st75i just popped the awesome live DVD / install DVD into my drive and rebooted, and chose to install it on boot (xp already on the system. it let me make partitions and installed on one i chose almost effortlessly04:22
ubuntu_and i select install on /dev/sda04:22
ubuntu_SCSI SATA disk04:22
ubuntu_and i reduce winxp partition to 40%04:23
Gh0st75my sata drive isn't scsi but that shouldn't make a huge difference04:23
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ubuntu_but04:23
ubuntu_when kubuntu finish04:23
ubuntu_i reboot and GRUB doesnt load04:23
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ubuntu_i get the message: Fail loading SO04:23
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baskewdid you make /boot part04:24
Gh0st75can't say i've had that problem04:24
Gh0st75you chose two partitions, one for / and one for swap right?04:24
ubuntu_ /boot part?04:24
ubuntu_i try that too04:24
ubuntu_i tried that too*04:25
nagyvubuntu_: a couple of month ago I tried to use a Knoppix CD on a SATA drive, and it could not start neither. It can happen that your SATA is khmm... too much new04:25
baskewyeah i used a 100mB /boot partition at beginning of drive04:25
ubuntu_but i have the same error04:25
ubuntu_kubuntu make it04:25
baskewkhmm04:25
ubuntu_i only select install on SATA04:25
ubuntu_where XP is installed04:26
ubuntu_and i use scrollbar to reduce partition04:26
ubuntu_do you know?04:26
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ubuntu_well04:27
baskeware u able to boot into xp after the kubuntu install finishes04:27
ubuntu_no04:27
ubuntu_i cant04:27
ubuntu_i try fixmbr04:27
ubuntu_i've tried04:27
ubuntu_fixmbr and bootcfg but its impossible04:28
Gh0st75scsi drive you're using not supported yet maybe?04:28
ubuntu_i think that kubuntu crash MBR sector04:28
ubuntu_its a SATA Maxtor 120 Gb04:28
nagyvIs there any way to automatically mount an USB winchester at startup if it is present? I mean are there any shell scripts or something?04:28
baskewyou said it calls it /dev/sda?04:28
ubuntu_kubuntu recognice it04:28
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ubuntu_yeah04:28
ubuntu_SO detects hda (my ide drive) and sda (my sata drive)04:29
baskewweird, thats how my flash drive is detected04:29
ubuntu_and i select to install on sda because i have important data on hda04:29
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ubuntu_kubuntu runs perfectly without XP installed04:30
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ubuntu_but i cant manage the boot sector04:30
ubuntu_i am going to reset, thx guys04:31
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baskewgood luck04:31
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fir3st0rmhow can i configure kde to use the samba 'share' dialog in konqueror?04:33
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TheGateKeeperfir3st0rm: what are you trying to do, have you got windows boxes trying to look at shares on a linux box?04:39
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fir3st0rmTheGateKeeper: yes, i have04:41
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fir3st0rmsharing works, but only with root access in the control center04:41
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fir3st0rmi want to use the 'share' dialog in konqueror to share files (without root access)04:42
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waylandbillis there instructions for updating to 3.5.4?04:43
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Tm_Twaylandbill: have you read kubuntu.org ?04:44
mario!list04:44
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:44
waylandbillTm_T, HA! obviously I didn't thanks.04:44
narvik86how can i download all JPG files from server? wget -r and?04:45
mario!list04:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:45
Tm_Twaylandbill: yeah, I know, it's too obvious ;)04:45
Tm_Tmario: stop raping the bot04:45
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trappistnarvik86: depends how you want to do it.  man wget for details.04:46
ubuntuhi dudes04:46
TheGateKeeperfir3st0rm: easiest way is to install samba then create a directory, then go to System Settings -> Sharring and set it up from there04:46
mariohelp04:46
ubuntusee, i have two options to install WinXp and ubuntu04:46
ubuntuon /dev/hda Master IDE (hda) 160Gb04:46
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Tm_Tmario: you can't get any help if you don't tell what is your problem04:47
ubuntuor /dev/sda: SCS1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 122,9 Gb04:47
narvik86trappist but i cant do it :/ i tried -i *.JPG but it is downloading ither files04:47
Tm_Tubuntu: and?04:47
ubuntui cant install XP and kubuntu04:47
hsn_!mp304:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:47
ubuntuand my hard drive isnt SCSI, its SATA04:48
Tm_Tubuntu: sata is scsi-based, so equal04:48
ubuntuif i install, firts, XP, and next, y use this wizard04:48
ubuntuTm_T ok ;)04:48
ubuntubut the problem is04:48
ubuntui always get : Fail to load SO04:49
waylandbillubuntu, yes. Install XP first then the installer will find it and put in Grub.04:49
ubuntuno04:49
ubuntuXD04:49
Tm_Tinteresting04:49
ubuntugrub dont work04:49
ubuntuinstaller wont find XP04:49
ubuntugrub doesnt work04:49
Tm_Tubuntu: in where you get that error? you have all installed and then? or during install?04:49
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ubuntuTm_T:04:50
ubuntusee04:50
fir3st0rmTheGateKeeper: you mean control center->internet&network->file sharing?04:50
ubuntuat firts04:50
trappistnarvik86: try -A *.jpg04:50
ubuntui format all drives04:50
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ubuntumi SATA and my UDMA04:50
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ubuntunext, i install WinXP on SATA04:50
ubuntuperfect04:50
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ubuntui reboot the pc and i use the kubuntu installer04:51
ubuntukubuntu recognize my drives correctly04:51
narvik86trappist i wiil try, thanks04:51
TheGateKeeperfir3st0rm: yes, you using gnome ubuntu?04:51
ubuntu dev/hda (udma) and dev/sda (sata)04:51
fir3st0rmTheGateKeeper: no, debian sid+e17 to be honest04:51
Shannon1hi everyone,, can anyone help me with internal modem config,, it connect, stays on only for few second and gives me error message''remote is required to authenticate itself but .....04:52
ubuntuim using KDE04:52
ubuntuwell04:52
ubuntui select dev/sda04:52
Shannon1couldnt find any suitable secret password fo tit to use04:52
fir3st0rmTheGateKeeper: but there are a lot of kde apps installed04:52
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Shannon1none of the available password would let it use an IP04:52
ubuntuand i use the scrollbar to reduce the SATA partition04:52
ubuntuwhere XP is installed04:52
ubuntuinstaller say me that it will use the free space of partition04:53
TheGateKeeperfir3st0rm: ohhh well hope it's the same, long time since I have debian, and sid is a bit long in the tooth :-)04:53
ubuntuinstaller runs perfectly and04:53
ubuntuwhen i reboot pc04:53
BluesKajShannon1, that could be your ISP asking for your password that you have previously setup with them, do you remember it04:53
ubuntui get at dos the message04:53
ubuntufail to load S.O04:54
ubuntuthere arent grub messages04:54
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ubuntuonly: fail to load SO04:54
ubuntui dont know04:55
ubuntubut i have formated my hard disk 7 times04:55
ubuntuim tired04:55
Shannon1the password are ok,, on 2 ISP that I have,, it connect verify and disconnect,, modem does the same thing on the 2 ISP same mesage,, can it be a config that my laptop doesnt answer back for some reason,, I have to authenticate when Im wired on network,, and it works fine ,, same authentication on modem cant stay connected04:55
narvik86can you use fixmbr in win rescue console and later grub-install?04:56
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ubuntuTm_T04:56
ubuntunarvik8604:56
narvik86?04:56
ubuntui can use04:56
ubuntubut04:56
ubuntuit cant repare XP partition04:56
ubuntui only can format04:57
ubuntuanother time04:57
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waylandbillfrom the repair console you can use fixmbr04:57
ubuntuyes04:57
ubuntui use04:57
ubuntufixmbr04:57
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narvik86but fixmbr erases only mbr04:57
ubuntuand reset the PC04:57
narvik86and when booting for windiows is ok04:57
ubuntubut i get the same message04:58
ubuntufail to load SO04:58
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Gh0st75ok, just spent an hour tryin to get mp3s workin and no luck, will try again after lunch, am hungry, lol04:58
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ubuntuWARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as04:59
ubuntu  well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.04:59
ubuntu  Se formatearn las siguientes particiones:04:59
ubuntu     particin #1 de /dev/sda como ext304:59
ubuntu     particin #5 de /dev/sda como intercambio04:59
trappistnarvik86: wget -r --no-parent -A.jpg http://server.com04:59
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ubuntu:((((04:59
ubuntui will try to use UDMA drive05:00
ubuntuinstead of SATA05:00
h3sp4wnubuntu: Have you tried the alternative cd ?05:00
narvik86what about other bootloaders?05:00
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ubuntui dont know how to use it05:00
ubuntui hope that the installer make it easy :D05:01
ubuntuits no normal05:01
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ubuntuits simple, install wxp, install linux in the same drive,05:01
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ubuntureduce xp partition05:01
ubuntureboot and grub should happen05:02
ubuntushould show it05:02
ubuntuexcuse my bad english05:02
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h3sp4wnIts no more difficult to use than the other installer (but works alot better)05:03
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ubuntui have lost 4 days formating and installing05:04
ubuntu:O05:04
ubuntuim newbie with linux05:04
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h3sp4wnubuntu: Have you tried using the alternative cd yet ?05:04
ubuntuh3sp4wn no  i am using the normal liveCD05:04
cryistalhi guys!05:05
h3sp4wnubuntu: The normal live cd sometimes has problems with serial ata drives05:05
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ubuntunarvik86 i cant use private msg05:05
h3sp4wnubuntu: But the alternative one (even though its text based) should work fine05:05
ubuntuim not registered05:05
ubuntuh3sp4wn i'll try then :D05:05
cryistalYesterday I installed Kubuntu for the first time, it's wonderful!05:05
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narvik86ubuntu there are instructions how to register, one command05:06
hooperdoes anybody know who I can talk to to work through a compiler setup problem?05:06
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h3sp4wnubuntu: Ideally you don't want to have to resize the partitions (just only use part of the drive for windows when you install it)05:06
ubuntumm05:07
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ubuntui dont understand05:08
ubuntuwhen i install linux or win?05:08
h3sp4wnIf you are reinstalling both you may as well just make windows only use part of the disk05:08
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ubuntuh3sp4wn, i get the error using all space of SATA for ubuntu05:09
ubuntutoo05:09
ubuntuwithout XP05:09
|lostbyte|Hi, how is the draback for using a linux program from a fat fs and viseversa ?05:09
|lostbyte|how/what*05:10
h3sp4wnWell just use all the space of the sata from the alternative installer and it should work fine (if you have windows on another disk - don't know why you would really want to though)05:10
grothesk|lostbyte|: fat doen not know about unix rights.05:10
|lostbyte|grothesk, ok and..05:10
ubuntui will try another time05:11
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ubuntunow, im installing kubuntu05:11
grothesk|lostbyte|: Usually you can't even execute programms from a fat partition.05:11
ubuntuwithout XP05:11
ubuntuon SATA05:11
ubuntuif i get the same error05:11
narvik86but try alternative cd05:11
ubuntui will use UDMA05:11
ubuntuyes05:11
ubuntui will try too05:11
|lostbyte|will the program/music run slow...05:11
sebbarhey people can you tell me if there is a firefox extension which tells me whenever a certain internet site has been updated?05:11
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ubuntuthx guys!05:12
grothesk|lostbyte|: mp3 will not run slow.05:12
Admiral_ChicagoRSS?05:12
grothesk|lostbyte|: executables will not run afaik.05:12
sebbarno, just a regular site. Is that possible?05:12
|lostbyte|grothesk, and as i have large space alocated on for linux, only 5 GB for zp, what will i experiance for running a game from ext2 on xp.. ?05:12
Admiral_Chicagohmm, well thats specifically what RSS is for05:12
|lostbyte|zp/xp*05:13
grothesk|lostbyte|: Do you have drivers fr ext2 in windows?05:13
grotheskext2fs are they called, afaik.05:13
Admiral_Chicagosebbar, no idea, the only thing I can think of is RSS05:14
|lostbyte|grothesk, yes, those ones.05:14
grothesk|lostbyte|: I really don't know. Linux only here.05:14
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sebbarso if i'd like to be kept updated on planetkde.org there is no way?05:14
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clojsterholla05:15
Admiral_Chicagosebbar, http://planetkde.org/rss20.xml05:15
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Admiral_Chicagothe RSS feed05:15
clojsteris there easy way to grab iso from CD/DVD/Directory in KDE?05:16
clojsterany application?05:16
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Admiral_Chicagoclojster, bchunk?05:16
|lostbyte|grothesk, ok ! as i use only windows for games, at the same time want to give it very little space.. so i encounter a filesystem crossing execution process.and i dont know if i am really getting the full processing power or am loosing it in fs to fs transfer.05:16
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clojsterAdmiral_Chicago: thanks, i'm gonna try05:16
sebbarexcellent, tnx05:16
Admiral_Chicagoi dont know if thats what you want but bchunk is what i use to make iso out of bin/cue05:16
clojsternono05:17
grothesk|lostbyte|: I think so...05:17
clojsterI want just to grab DVD into ISO to my HDD05:17
|lostbyte|grothesk, k05:17
lensI was wondering if anyone could help me compile this program... I have 2 folders and 1 file... the two folders are NICOLE (the name of the program) and NICOLE-PHP... then there is a .db file (database)... do I need all of these to install?  whats with the DB and PHP file, do I need to put them into the main NICOLE folder before I compile??05:17
Admiral_Chicagoclojster, oh, well yea bchunk isn't for that05:17
clojsterin Gnome its the matter of one right click... i want something simple like that in kde... there must be tool for this05:18
grotheskclojster: k9copy05:18
waylandbillclojster: I use k9copy to dump a DVD to my HDD.05:18
clojsterk9copy keeps crashing all the time...05:18
waylandbillgrothesk has quicker fingers.05:18
clojsterand i dont need to shrink the dvd... just grab it full05:19
grotheskclojster: k9copy05:19
h3sp4wnclojster: just use dd05:19
clojsterdd if=/dev/cdrom of=/foo/bar.iso?05:19
|lostbyte|!rescue05:20
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"05:20
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h3sp4wnclojster: dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso (/dev/cdrom is probably just a link just the same)05:22
h3sp4wnclojster: then you can just do sudo mount -o loop bar.iso /media/dvdimage05:22
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lensI'm still trying to get this program to install, would anyone check out my pastebin, I would appreciate it.  http://pastebin.ca/11540005:27
Gh0st75-awaydoes kubuntu have a comic book reader akin to CDisplay? i expected one to be called Komix or something, hehe05:28
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DaSkreechnixternal: Ping05:32
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stankshi05:32
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stanksi need some help05:33
Admiral_Chicagostanks, whats the problem05:33
stanksi have one movie on cd with extension mpg05:33
stanksi can watch it in my standalone dvd player05:33
BluesKajstrange ...I logged in from the cmd line and startx gave me the gnome desktop :)...I normally us kde but I was trying to start xgl05:33
stanksi try to convert one vcd movie05:33
stanksextracting mpg file was ok05:34
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rikiohare you wanting to watch it on your computer or what?05:34
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stanksand when i want to watch it on standalone dvd i can't05:34
stanksdvd says no audio no data track found05:34
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stankswhat is the problem05:35
rikiohhave you watched a vcd on that dvd player before?05:35
stanksyes05:35
stanksand mpg files05:35
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stanksbut this mpg file is dead05:35
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stankseverything is fine on comp05:36
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brandon_konq is opening links as chached text files instead of as webpages05:36
rikiohyou using the same kind of cd's as before?05:36
stanksyes05:36
rsosbornhello all05:36
narvik86hi05:36
rsosborndoes anyone know the command to show hidden files from the terminal05:36
rikiohdid you burn the cd as slow as you can05:36
stankseven try to make dvd structure of this mpg file05:36
rsosbornI'm trying to edit .htaccess file for oscommerce05:36
stanksno...i set max speed :-D05:36
narvik86ls -a05:37
rsosbornI need to make sure it have username and password protected05:37
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rikiohtry to burn it as slow as you can05:37
stanksok05:37
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narvik86rsosborn ls -a05:37
rikiohwhat program did you use to convert it or w/e u did05:38
rsosbornlet me try thanks05:38
stanksi extract mpg with vcdxrip05:38
rsosbornnarvik: one more question in Kubuntu what is the command to edit file05:38
rsosbornI know in ubuntu it was gedit05:38
stanksthen avidemux to set some things05:38
rsosbornI tried kedit05:38
rsosbornbut didn't work05:39
narvik86kate05:39
stanksthat is all05:39
rsosbornatt05:39
rsosbornahh05:39
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narvik86kwrite can be also05:39
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rikiohwhats the irc command to connect to a second server05:40
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Kr4t05rikioh: it depends.05:40
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rikiohi just wanna be on 2 servers at once05:41
brandon_can somebody try soemthing for me?05:41
narvik86yes05:41
Kr4t05rikioh: just type /server irc.newserver.com05:41
Kr4t05It should open a new tab.05:41
rikiohand ill still be connected here?05:41
brandon_narvik86: are you talking to me?05:41
narvik86yes05:41
brandon_which version of kde are you using?05:42
Gh0st75rikioh, i just went to file->serverlist and clicked new, added the new server and clicked connect05:42
narvik86brandon_ 3.5.4 i think05:42
Gh0st75and am currently on two servers at the moment05:42
brandon_narvik86: do you have amarok?05:42
narvik86brandon_ yes but im using beepmediaplayer05:42
brandon_narvik86: please start amarok05:42
narvik86brandon_ already05:43
brandon_narvik86: start playing a song and go to the context menu. click the lyrics tab05:43
brandon_narvik86: now click the "add" button05:43
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brandon_narvik86: it should open a link in konqueror05:44
rikiohok it worked05:44
Gh0st75great05:44
narvik86brandon_ wait a second05:44
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brandon_narvik86: click the "context" button on the far left. the lyrics tab will be on the top after that05:47
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narvik86brandon_ konqueror opens my home directory05:48
brandon_narvik86: when you click the add button?05:48
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dognewshi05:49
narvik86brandon_ yes05:49
narvik86brandon_ but know it open webpage05:49
brandon_narvik86: it doesn't open a submit page or a cached php file?05:49
dognewshas anyone of you tried out xgl on kubuntu?05:49
narvik86brandon_ i clicked something above add, to star lirycs "searcher"05:50
Gh0st75not i, i've only just got kubuntu installed, not too deep yet, just up to my elbows in the basics :)05:50
brandon_narvik86: you clicked the search button?05:50
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narvik86brandon_ it opens now in example: http://lyrc.com.ar/en/add/add.php?grupo=Sum%2041&tema=The%20Hell%20Song&disco=Does%20This%20Look%20Infected&ano=005:50
narvik86brandon_ for search is: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=lyrics%20%22Sum%2041%22%20%22The%20Hell%20Song%2205:52
brandon_narvik86: that's the actual address that konq opens?05:52
narvik86brandon_ when i press which button?05:53
brandon_search05:53
narvik86brandon_ http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=lyrics%20%22Sum%2041%22%20%22Hooch%22  for actually song05:53
narvik86brandon_ sorry for my english05:54
brandon_it's alright05:54
narvik86brandon_ when i clicked Lyrics, i also clicked something to start lyrics searching05:56
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samuel_Hmm, using amarok in Edgy, it ask if i want to install mp3 support, if i choose No it ask to enable universe repository! :/05:56
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Gh0st75i've managed to enable the universe and multiverse repositories, but still can't get kaffeine to play my mp3s05:57
dognewsGh0st75: did you install the codecs?05:58
dognewstry easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html05:58
Gh0st75i went into adept package manager and did searches for xvid, divx and mp3 and installed any that seemed related to playback05:59
DaSkreechGh0st75: try libxine-extracodecs05:59
dognewsGh0st75: I did it with easyubuntu and it worked fine - you can select what you want to have (also flash stuff and skype,...)06:00
DaSkreechcart: Sounds like a bug06:00
Gh0st75that one was one a website told me to look for, but it wasn't in the list under Adept06:00
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DaSkreechGh0st75: libxine-extracodecs isn't there?06:00
Gh0st75nope DaSkreech06:00
Gh0st75libxine ones were there, but not the extracodecs one06:00
DaSkreechDid you click Fetch Updates?06:00
Gh0st75yes06:01
Gh0st75i clicked that after enabled the multiverse and universe repositories06:01
DaSkreechDo you have libxine1c2?06:01
Gh0st75checking...06:01
cartDaSkreech: Yeap, is Edgy afterall! :)06:01
DaSkreechcart: Might want to ask in #ubuntu+106:02
aliasfredq. what is the page where riddel describe the current issue of kde 3.5.4 with kubuntu ?06:02
Gh0st75k, installin libxine1c2 there now06:03
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DaSkreechGh0st75: No don't install it :)06:03
aliasfred!kde3.5.406:03
ubotuI know nothing about kde3.5.4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:03
DaSkreechGh0st75: I just wanted to know if you had it in the list06:03
Gh0st75doh06:03
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Gh0st75k, cancelled that06:04
DaSkreechand there is no libxine-extracodecs?06:04
Gh0st75nope06:04
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DaSkreechwhat do you get when you search for xine-extra ?06:05
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Gh0st75ooh, tried a search for it and it found it06:06
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Gh0st75after scanning it manually several times, lol06:06
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Gh0st75installin it now06:07
DaSkreechGh0st75: Search rock (google's) world06:07
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PingunZHow can I save flash movies I see in firefox ?06:10
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aliasfredPingunZ: dunno, but get the url of the flash file and do a wget06:11
aliasfredthen mplayer or other video player may play it06:11
waylandbillPingunZ: use wget to fetch the file06:11
PingunZTY06:12
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aztunhi06:14
aztunhas been solved the bug with kubuntu-default-settings on last kde packages??06:14
rsosborndoes anyone know about oscommerce?06:15
rsosbornI'm trying to edit .htaccess06:15
aztunI tried it few weeks ago rsosborn06:15
rsosbornto protect my /admin06:15
rsosbornI used a .htaccess generator06:16
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rsosbornbut it still doesn't ask for username and password06:16
rsosbornany ideas?06:16
rsosbornI think it may be the path I'm using06:16
rsosbornI tried /var/www/public_html/catalog/admin/06:16
aliasfredrsosborn: ask appache to accept this option :)06:17
rsosbornwhich is where it is06:17
rsosbornI use webmin06:17
rsosbornany idea where that would be06:17
rsosbornI'm still learning06:17
aliasfreddont remember, but i know there is one06:17
aztundont remember rsosborn06:18
rsosbornlet me play around with this idea06:18
rsosbornthanks06:18
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aztuntry "grep -R  htaccess /etc/apache2/*06:18
aztuntry "grep -R  htaccess /etc/apache2/*"06:18
aztunto find it06:19
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Gh0st75mp3s and xvid/divx playin fine now, thanks for the help folks :)06:19
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rikiohdid you just burn it slower or?06:20
brandon_i need to put konqueror back to 100% default status06:20
aztunbrandon_: konqueror misconfigured when u upgraded kde?06:21
DaSkreechGh0st75: You good?06:22
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brandon_aztun: no, it was misconfigured b4 that06:23
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Gh0st75yeah DaSkreech, all my media's playin now, thanks kindly06:27
DaSkreechGh0st75: Sure.06:27
Gh0st75my to-do list for windows-linux transition is gettin lots shorter now06:28
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damian_anyone know the url to the ubuntu documentation on vnc over ssh?06:29
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Hawkwinddamian_: Search the wiki, it's probably there06:30
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larson9999Gh0st75: what do you have left?06:32
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bytefoodoes anyones kmixer every freak out and hit 99% cpu :|06:35
bytefooever*06:35
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sensei!mp306:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:38
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jon_hello ?06:42
tsdgeoshi06:42
sensei!libxine-extracodecs06:44
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:44
senseiGah, which repo contains libxine-extracodecs?06:44
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Admiral_Chicagosensei, multiverse or universe is my guess06:44
abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs06:44
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:44
abattoirsensei: ^^^^^06:45
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senseiI have them uncommented and have done a successful apt-get update06:45
senseiThe multi and universe that is06:45
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[GuS] sensei, multiverse06:45
sensei[GuS] : multi = multiverse in this case :)06:46
[GuS] i know06:46
abattoirsensei: make sure you enabled it for 'dapper'... rather than 'dapper-backports'06:46
[GuS] yep06:46
senseiabattoir: Good point06:46
abattoirsensei: :)06:47
senseiAh, there they are, cheers06:47
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slow-motionhallo06:50
draikWhat is the time difference from GMT to Pacific Time?06:50
abattoir-8 ?06:50
draikGMT 12pm would be 4am Pacific?06:51
baskew-7 i believe06:51
baskewdraik: time.gov06:51
draikthank you06:51
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h3sp4wnGMT (is not the time in england - we currently are on GMT+1)06:52
jordan_how to install compiz only for XFCE ?06:52
nnn0you mean GMT + sunlight savings06:52
h3sp4wnjordan_: #xubuntu would be more likely to know06:52
jeeklAmarok refuses to play flac files. I'm using Xine with extracodecs isntalled. Anyone know a fix?06:52
h3sp4wnnnn0: BST == GMT+106:53
draikI'm -706:54
draikThanks all06:54
aliasfredq. what is the status of the kde354 bug conf file in kubuntu ? still pending ?06:54
nnn0what i mean is, that in the wintertime - the TZ in Engliand is GMT06:55
draikHey?!?! Who gave Adept Updater an overdose of caffeine?!?!06:55
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ninHerhi all06:58
mark___hi all, my sound works one time out of 2,06:58
mark___sometimes when i boot, the soundcard appears in the volume control and sometimes it doesn't06:59
mark___without any reason!06:59
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soulriderhi07:03
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soulrideranyone here, im having some trouble installing kubuntu on this machien.... :/07:03
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DaSkreechsoulrider: What's Up?07:04
DaSkreech!sound07:04
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems07:04
jordan_how to log out (what comend) in terminal ?07:04
soulriderhey, im having some trouble selecting the partitions i wanna install kubuntu to07:04
nnn0soulrider: is the disk mounted ?07:05
DaSkreechjordan_: What are you asking?07:05
DaSkreechsoulrider: How are you installing?07:05
soulrideruhm i think so07:05
soulriderok heres what im doing07:05
nnn0soulrider: you have to unmount the disk to partition it and stuff07:05
jordan_How to logout useing consol(terminal)07:05
soulrideri cliked on the isnatll button on my desktop07:05
soulriderim not being able to select the partition i want07:05
soulriderthast the problem07:06
nnn0soulrider: try to umount it07:06
jordan_Driver for it have bug i can't corect log out use kde bar07:06
jordan_Driver for ATi07:06
soulridercan i show you a screenshot fo what i wanna do?07:06
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soulriderits really confusing me07:06
waylandbillsoulrider: you using the installer? what is on the screen?07:06
soulriderill take a screenie of hte partitions ont he installer07:07
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DaSkreechsoulrider: Sorry I'd honestly say if you are having issues with the Desktop CD you use the alternate07:08
soulriderhttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4673/snapshot1lc7.jpg07:09
soulriderwhats that i see07:09
soulrideri wanna use SDA5 for linux and the little one for swap07:09
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waylandbillit won't let you highlight /dev/sda5 in the list box?07:10
soulrideryes07:11
nnn0if the partitions are ready you set the mountpoints in the next slide07:11
soulriderbut i will have to sue the windows as swap07:11
soulriderand i dont wanna do that07:11
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soulriderit wont let me selecs sda607:11
nnn0because the disk is mounted07:11
waylandbillyou set the type to ext3. you want the type to be swap I think07:11
nnn0maybe not07:12
soulrideri did that i think07:12
waylandbillthe list box shows sda6 being ext307:12
soulriderk, let me make it swap07:12
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soulriderk, done07:12
waylandbillnow you should be able to select it for swap07:13
soulriderweird, i cans elect it now...07:13
soulrideri feel retarded.....07:13
waylandbillnah... simple mistake is all.07:13
waylandbillenjoy07:13
soulriderthanks!07:13
waylandbillthe screenshot really was worth a thousand words. lol07:14
soulrideryea, screenshots work07:14
visik7anyone know if there will any chance to get xgl "integrated" in kde 3.5 ?07:14
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marxluzjoina/ #ubuntu07:16
marxluzjoin/ #ubuntu07:16
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BluesKajvisik7, I've been waiting for an answer to that question for a while now :)07:16
Admiral_Chicagomarxluz, you trying to do a /join #channel?07:17
visik7BluesKaj: I just want a kwin-compiz or something like that07:17
waylandbillI've not gotten enough desire yet to try xgl. some year maybe I will. :-D07:17
BluesKajyour here marxluz07:17
sergiusensvisik7: i don't think so, I guess they're gonna just take advantage of "arthur" (qt)07:17
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jordan_#xubuntu-zgl07:18
jordan_#xubuntu-xgl07:18
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BluesKajwell, that's abit beyond my scope ...compiz baffled me and I scewed up my X07:18
visik7I'm using kubuntu not xubuntu07:18
DaSkreechvisik7: They wont07:20
visik7DaSkreech: who ?07:20
BluesKajthe guys at #xgl weren't paying attn , I hung around there for help for 2 hrs and no one responded07:20
DaSkreechXGL in kde 3.507:20
DaSkreechBy definition it's in a freeze07:20
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visik7yes I don't want something official07:20
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Tried #ubuntu-xgl07:20
Ademanhrm my video card won't output through svga to my big screen, i could do this on windows. interestingly enough it seems that it works fine untill X starts, do i need to add a monitor or something to my xconf?07:21
visik7I just want something not gtk based07:21
DaSkreechvisik7: You can pull the SVN for kwin it has XGl support07:21
visik7mmm07:21
visik7but is it qt4 ?07:21
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gplfighterjeekl : updated? same problem here07:21
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jeeklYes, updated. Amarok plays all sorts of other files, from vorbis to mp3 to m4a and so on, but not flac.07:23
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mikearthurwhat does "Ign" mean on apt-get update?07:27
visik7ignoring07:27
mikearthurwhy would it be doing that?07:27
mikearthurFailed to fetch http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  302 Found07:27
mikearthurany ideas?07:28
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Saw the SVN logs for kwin?07:30
hagusGood evening from bonnie Scotland :)07:31
soulrider!easysource07:31
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:31
mikearthurhagus: evening fellow scotlander07:31
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hagusmikearthur: whilst I enjoy seeing Americans, English folk and others on the web, it is reassuring to see a fellow Scot :)07:32
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hagusI am just starting out with kubuntu07:32
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hagusWhilst the dialogs suggest that I am managing to install my HP1100 printer and that a test page has been successfully printed, no such thing happens.07:34
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hagusSomeone very kindly pointed me to a resource FAQ which dealt with such an issue but I could not make much sense of it.07:35
DaSkreech!print07:35
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:35
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DaSkreechThat?07:36
hagusAye, it was you, ubotu - ty :)07:36
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hagusI have a printer connected by USB to my machine.07:36
DaSkreechUbotu is a robot btw07:37
haguslol07:37
hagustold you I was naive :07:37
DaSkreechThose links are a good read though and should at least help you get some progress07:37
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Philip5hagus: start with a chech it your printer is detected on the usb bus by typing 'lsusb' in a chell07:37
DaSkreechBots had me fooled for a good while till I started trying to write one then they got easier to pick out07:37
Philip5ops, shell07:37
DaSkreechHaving bot in the name doesn't hurt either ;-)07:38
hagusI have the HPlibs that seem to be required and it claims that it is updating the database of drivers to deal with my printer but it does not detect it automatically.07:38
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hagusis that by typing lsusb in konsole, for instance, Philip5?07:40
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hagusI really am pig ignorant as to how to do much in linux.07:41
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neoenohey, When I right click the title bar I can access 'special window settings'. Can I access these options (specifically skiptaskbar) from the console? I want to be able to modify them while the program is running, rather than using kstart.07:42
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DaSkreechhagus: Hang out here :) You learn loads07:42
alleeneoeno: try kdcop07:43
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neoenoallee: I've tried, I can't seem to see any mention of it in there though07:43
hagusI have clicked on USB devices in the KinfoCenter - it shows up hp business inkjet 1100 :)07:43
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hagusIs that the same as pressing lsusb ?07:44
hagusI mean does that indicate that the printer is being recognised?07:44
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alleeneoeno_afk: sorry, no futher ideas07:50
sergiusensany packages with c++ documentation/manpages?07:50
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Philip5hagus: i guess if that is what you have07:51
hagusI guess that hp business inkjet 1100 might not be compatible with linux :(07:51
senseiWhich via driver doedapper ship with? openunichome, xorgs own or vias own 'open source' driver?07:51
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Philip5hagus: check on hps site about info on your printer07:52
senseiopen unichrome*07:52
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hagusOk, ty, Philip5, I am off to do that now.07:52
shadedpasthow do u force an application or program to stop?07:52
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, sudo killall -KILL <process>07:53
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senseishadedpast: Or if you want to kill a special one (if there's several instances of the same program running) kill -9 pid07:53
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, yea you  can use the pid, (Process ID)07:54
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shadedpastdoes the process have to be inside <>07:56
shadedpastcause it doesn't work07:56
Admiral_Chicagonolte, replace <process> with the actuall name07:57
Admiral_Chicagoso sudo killall -KILL xchat07:57
shadedpasti did and it doesn't work07:58
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Admiral_Chicagowhat are you trying to end?07:58
senseishadedpast: Things inside <> are required and []  are optional but available07:58
shadedpastkopete it locked up07:58
senseiNever read a manpage or a --help? :)07:58
shadedpastyes i have07:59
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, so you did "sudo killall -KILL kopete"07:59
shadedpast i just asked in case07:59
Admiral_Chicagosensei, you font have to be a jerk07:59
Admiral_Chicagoor at  least that came across kinda mean07:59
shadedpastyes07:59
Admiral_Chicagobut the emoticon saves it!07:59
senseiAdmiral_Chicago: Yeah, I kind of do.. I have a tremendously small penis you see :/07:59
sensei:)07:59
Admiral_Chicagosensei, ah yes I understand07:59
baskewheh thats funny08:00
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, you can open up KsystemManager08:00
Admiral_Chicagoerr08:00
shadedpasti typed sudo killall -KILL kopete08:00
Admiral_ChicagoKSysGuard08:00
Admiral_Chicagoits in the K menu, under System08:00
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Admiral_Chicagoand open it and use that to kill kopete08:00
shadedpastthnx that worked08:01
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mag_anyone in here an expert with amarok? im new to linux and i need somehelp08:03
mag_some help*08:03
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Admiral_Chicagomag_, whats the problem?08:03
mag_amarok wont play my mp3 files08:03
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Blissex!restricted08:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:04
Blissexmag_: you got to read the links above.08:04
mag_ok thankyou08:04
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TheGateKeepermag_:08:05
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locobladehey guys08:05
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TheGateKeepermag_: if you use the xine engine then install libxine-extracodecs08:05
locobladeim trying to open sources.list to unlock repositories08:05
locobladeand I'm having a problem08:06
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locobladei type in sudo kate sources.list08:06
locobladeand what comes up is thats there's a communication problem with kded08:07
locobladeand that it probably crashed08:07
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locobladeandit wont open the file08:07
Admiral_Chicagotry sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:07
TheGateKeeperRun command... kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list08:07
locobladeis there another way to edit sources.list?08:07
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TheGateKeeperRun command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  --- ooops08:08
Blissexlocoblade: you are try to start Kate inside the _root_ context.08:08
locobladeok08:08
locobladewell it worked before08:08
Blissexlocoblade: so you are trying to start KDE inside 'root'...08:08
soulrider!system specs08:08
ubotuI know nothing about system specs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:08
locobladei'll try what gatekeeper said08:08
soulrider!system08:08
ubotuI know nothing about system - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:08
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Blissexlocoblade: can you use 'vi' for example, or add yourself to the 'root' or 'wheel' groups? Consider this only if you already a bit geeky :-)08:09
locobladeok kdesu worked08:09
locobladeim not geeky08:09
locobladeim doing this by the skin of my teeth lol08:09
TheGateKeeperlocoblade: that won't unlock the repos08:10
locobladeive forgotten how to update the repositories thing after I unlock them too08:10
Blissexlocoblade: then 'kdesu' is the way to go as <TheGateKeeper> said...08:10
locobladewhats the difference blissex?08:10
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TheGateKeeper!easyubuntu > locoblade08:11
Blissexlocoblade: it is pretty technical -- 'sudo' switches into 'root' ''totally'', while 'kdesu' switches into 'root' only the privilges.08:11
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locobladeok08:11
locobladeeasyubuntu, whats that then?08:11
locobladeand im sure it is greater than me!08:11
TheGateKeeperkdesu is used for gui apps08:12
Blissexlocoblade: when you start KDE, you start a lot of ''helper'' stuff. This is per-user, not per-system...08:12
locobladeok08:12
locobladecool08:12
locobladethat easy ubuntu looks great!08:12
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gunnar_hmmm08:15
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h3sp4wnlocablade: easyubuntu doesn't do anything special and may break your system (in certain circumstances)08:15
soulriderthis will sound really dumb, but what can i use to view my system specs?08:16
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hagusShould I have a printer "class" defined to get a USB printer to work?08:17
TheGateKeeperh3sp4wn: hmmm didn't know that it was a bit iffy08:17
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cumarHI, Can anyone help me in configuring firefox to watch CNN news video. I have installed mplayer pluggin but itshows no picture and no sound08:17
locobladeeasyubuntu's working great08:17
locobladethanks whoever reccommended it!08:18
h3sp4wnTheGateKeeper: I can think of one instance where it doesn't handle things in a sane way08:18
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Blissexhagus: pointless... Classes are if you have many printers.08:18
hagusThe printer that I have is discontinued by HP but it is too good to abandon for the sake of linux :(08:18
senseihagus: Can't it do post/ghost script prints?08:18
hagusI do not know how to do these, sensei :)08:19
TheGateKeeperh3sp4wn: I won't suggest it if it can knacker people's system08:19
pettyany gurus around?   I've just installed kubuntu. Does anybody know why I do NOT have the option "Manage Repositories" in my Adept?08:19
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administratorhello08:20
soulrider:O08:20
soulriderAdmi08:20
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soulrideradministrator:08:20
gekko`_what's the task knotify for? just to output sounds on errors?08:20
Blissexpetty: running it as 'root'?08:20
Daskreech2locoblade: Did you try editing them in adept?08:20
TaiCharnow having another name08:20
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Blissexgekko`_: or to pop up messages or sound the fire alarm or ...08:20
h3sp4wnTheGateKeeper: If someone has an ati card (which should work with the free drivers) or a card only supported by nvidia-legacy using easyubuntu can cause issues that are a pain to get round08:21
TheGateKeeperpetty: nope easy workaround Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:21
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Daskreech2petty: You are running adept under simple mode08:21
pettyno...running as a user....tried to log as root but I have no password...08:21
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gekko`_Blissex: so I shouldn't disable that task?08:21
sydney:)08:21
Daskreech2TheGateKeeper: He's running the dumbed down Adept08:21
sydneyhello08:21
Blissexgekko`_: no, why? pointless. Just disable notifications.08:21
Daskreech2petty: Want instructions to open it with all options?08:21
bipolarIs there a reason that flash gives me nothing but a grey box in konq (other then flash sucks...)?08:21
pettyplease08:22
bipolarI hear the sounds, but no video08:22
TheGateKeeperDaskreech2: ahhh!08:22
TaiCharcan someone help me? I am not able to mount my ntfs HDDs08:22
Daskreech2petty: Press Alt+Space08:22
pettyok08:22
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Daskreech2Type ad and press enter08:22
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pettyok08:23
TheGateKeeperh3sp4wn: those video cards bite folks in the arse yet again :-)08:23
Daskreech2It should ask you for a password. That would be your password08:23
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pettyok08:23
crypdoes anyone know what is the kubuntu default font?08:23
Daskreech2Tell me when adept opens :)08:23
Daskreech2TaiChar: How many08:23
Daskreech2damn it08:23
pettysoryy cannot do it right now ...is upgrading....but plese give me all instructions ...i'll do it in 30 minutes08:24
h3sp4wnTheGateKeeper: There is no reason easyubuntu cannot check the pci ids and do the correct thing (refusing to install anything at all if it is not sure)08:24
crypany1? please :/08:25
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Daskreech2petty: Short way is K Menu -> System -> Adept08:25
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Daskreech2petty: Shorter way is longer to write but faster to do08:25
hagusBliss, I have never tried to print to postscript or ghostscript.  I have printed a pdf file to give to professional printer but I guess that what you are suggesting is a bit more involved.08:26
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Daskreech2TheGateKeeper: I've grown quite fond of adept08:26
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TheGateKeeperDaskreech2: just drives me nuts, I can use it, but it just irritates me so I don't08:27
Daskreech2Why?08:27
hagusI am not being deliberately awkward - just ignorant :)08:27
Daskreech2hagus: Understood as long as you are not obnoxious :)08:28
pettyDaskreech2, what do I do after"  It should ask you for a password. That would be your password"  ????08:28
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Daskreech2petty: You put in your password in the passowrd box then adept should open08:28
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pettyand then...it should have all options opened?08:29
TheGateKeeperDaskreech2: just don't like the interface, and lost trust in it when I managed to get it go into an infinite loop in breezy08:29
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Daskreech2TheGateKeeper: Sweet how did you do that?08:29
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TheGateKeeperDaskreech2: not exactly sure, probable just a bug somewhere, didn't try repeating it, but it was when I was asking it to install several things all at the same time. I use Synaptic and apt-get depending on what I do, synaptic has always been rock solid (touches wood :-) ) at least so far08:31
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Daskreech2I got Synaptic to throw up once .. don't remember howI fixed it08:32
hagusBlissex: What I was wondering was whether you were going to give me some pointers as to how to go about doing this postscript stuff?08:32
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TheGateKeeperbrb08:33
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Blissexhagus: sorry, I haven't been following, but I could help as an exception. What's your situation now: Printer model? You got CUPS configured in some way? How familiar are you with sysadmin?08:34
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hagusnot at all on linux08:34
hagusI am reasonably familiar with windows08:34
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Blissexhagus: good, which printer is that then?08:35
hagusHP business inkjet 110008:35
hagusIt is on a USB08:35
mateuszJest kto z Polski08:35
hagusHP website says that HP1100 has been discontinued by them.08:36
Blissexhagus: ah that should be fairly easy, virtually all HP inkjets are supported by CUPS one way or another.08:36
Blissex!polski08:36
ubotuI know nothing about polski - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:36
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Blissex!polish08:36
ubotuI know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:36
Blissex!poland08:36
ubotuI know nothing about poland - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:36
Blissexhagus: and who cares? CUPS etc. have written their own drivers.08:36
Blissexhagus: there are actually two different (actually more) drivers for HP inkjets...08:37
Blissexhagus: how you tried just using the web interface for CUPS and select HP as the make of the inkjet and then selecting 1100 or something similar?08:37
mateuszJestem zaamany czy kto mni8e rozumie08:37
DaSkreechnixternal`back: PIng08:37
DaSkreech!po08:38
ubotuI know nothing about po - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:38
haguseek - nope08:38
DaSkreech!spanish08:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:38
hagusI just used the wizard and asked for USB08:38
DaSkreechOh Cool :)08:38
Blissexhagus: type in your browser: http://localhost:631/08:38
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Blissexhagus: and then select 'add printer' and log in as 'root'. You need to add a password to 'root' if you haven't already.08:39
hagus.08:39
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sorush20hi guys, I am running some gnome applications but I don't have gnome installed would this be considered by gnome version if I were to file a bug report ? ii  gnome-bin           1.4.2-30            Miscellaneous binaries used by GNOME08:39
Blissexsorush20: that would be OK.08:40
hagusIt offers me a chocice of two printers Blissex:08:41
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hagusone with hp/usb in front of it08:41
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Blissexhagus: USB or not does not matter a log as long as you specify the right device name (like '/dev/usblp0')08:42
hagusActually there are several offered but only two that mention hp08:42
hagusOK ty08:42
slow-motionre08:42
Blissexhagus: were you at the 'device for it'? If so then select 'usb lp'08:43
nixternalDaSkreech: pong?08:43
Blissexhagus: because that is about the output connector, not the manufacturer or model, they get asked next.08:44
DaSkreechnixternal: Still on the Newsletter comitte type writer thingy?08:44
nixternali have no clue..i was just filling in while MG was afk08:44
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hagushm - it keeps telling me that authentication failed for me as root08:44
nixternali have been AFK this week, and now am in the process of getting back into the swing of things08:44
DaSkreechnixternal: Ah So who do I gnip if I want to find out about UWN #8?08:45
hagusShould I have a username as root or just a blank or the word "root".  I am confused.08:45
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nixternal#*-doc someone..i will look into it here in a bit08:45
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hagusIt does not matter what I enter, it does not like it :(08:46
HawkwindWhy doesn't Kubuntu have something like this....specifically with Kubuntu images instead of Ubuntu images:  http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/index.php08:47
DaSkreechBlissex:Helping hagus?08:47
BlissexDaSkreech: hoping :-)08:47
hagusGimme a few minutes plz :)08:48
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DaSkreechI'm not sure but I think hagus might be confused about root. I'm not really following08:49
Blissexhagus: BTW, just checked and the 1100 is there...08:49
hagusI am the CUPS site.08:50
BlissexDaSkreech: I suspect so, and anyhow I suggested use of the CUPS web interface.08:50
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hagusWhen I fill in the first page questions about the name of printer etc., it takes me to a page which offers me a whole range of choices of connectors or something.08:50
DaSkreechHawkwind: Isn't Kubuntu right there on the page?08:50
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hagusOne of these says: hp business inkjet 1100 USB #1 (hp business inkjet 1100)08:51
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hagusthe other says hp:/usb/hp_business_inkjet_1100?serial=CN************* (HP hp_business_inkjet_1100)08:52
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HawkwindDaSkreech: Yes, but there are only images that say 'Ubuntu' and none that specifically show that the user is running Kubuntu or Xubuntu or whatever else08:53
HawkwindDaSkreech: I meant image wise specifically for the variants of *Ubuntu08:53
DaSkreechHawkwind: So write to the guys and say here use this along with a nice Kubuntu image :)08:54
hagusIs that site to which you pointed me one for which I must be already registered, Blissex?08:54
hagusor is it on my own machine?08:54
HawkwindDaSkreech: I just did :P08:54
Blissexhagus: that is not a site, it is just a web interface on your own machine.08:54
hagusok ty.08:55
pettyanycody knows the password for superuser (su command in  terminal window ) ???08:55
Blissexhagus: you must log in as 'root' when prompted.08:55
Blissexpetty: you gotta set it yourself or use 'sudo'08:55
hagusIt is asking me for username08:55
DaSkreechHawkwind: let me know how that goes :) I'd use one of the Kubuntu stickers08:55
Blissexhagus: have you set a password for the user 'root'?08:55
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DaSkreech!root > petty08:55
hagusI do not think that I have come to think of it.08:55
hagusI have just set the password for hagus.08:56
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pettytx08:56
HawkwindDaSkreech: I definitely will.  Hopefully Melissa will add an image for each seperate derivative of the project08:56
hagusplease forgive me for being so backward on this.08:56
Blissexhagus: then for the sake of this, open a Konsole and type 'sudo passwd root'08:56
DaSkreechMelissa?08:57
aliasfredmel you mean ? :)08:57
HawkwindDaSkreech: Melissa Draper is the one who runs that project08:57
haguspassword updated successfully !08:57
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BluesKajanyone know a URL that uses Flash , I'd like to test out my install :)08:58
DaSkreechwww.macromedia.com ?08:58
DaSkreechBluesKaj: www.orisinal.com08:58
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Blissexhagus: now type "root" as the user name, and whatever password you chose.08:58
BluesKajsomething with flash based video08:58
hagushave done that but it tells me I am not authenticated :(08:59
BluesKajthx DaSkreech :)08:59
HawkwindBluesKaj: google video08:59
hagusShould I pick internet printing protocol rather than the name of the printer?09:00
pettyDaScreech...."!root" is a password for su?   is not working i get "authentification failure"09:01
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hagusMust the password for the user and the root be different?09:01
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pettyno09:01
uniqhagus: must not, but it is good practice.09:02
pettyhow do i log in as root?09:02
RogueXHello everyone09:02
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uniqpetty: login from where? to where?09:02
hagusI wonder if it could have been to do with adept updater wanting to update?09:02
hagusI had adept open while I was trying this stuff?09:03
uniqhagus: why do you want a root password?09:03
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pettylogin on kubuntu or on a terminal window09:03
RogueXDoes anyone know if there is a setting to let you have the windows remember where they were last opened?09:03
draikpetty, su09:03
pettysu ask for password09:03
draikpetty, type 'su' then hit enter and it will ask for your password09:03
hagusI am trying to print to my printer, uniq.09:03
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pettymy orig passwd not working09:04
uniqpetty: why would you want to do that? all administrative tasks should be done with 'sudo command' if you really want a root shell session, 'sudo -s' works.09:04
pettyget auth failure09:04
uniqhagus: do you need to login as root to print?09:04
hagusI have not been able to print at all so I do not know the answer to that question :)09:05
mateuszMowi kto po Polsku09:05
pettyhow does one login as root?09:05
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uniqdraik: on kubuntu systems you can't just run 'su' and type your password, as the root account is disabled by default. You would first have to set a rootpassword with 'sudo passwd root'.09:05
lmodlhello09:05
Blissexhagus: if you don't my id in a line it is difficult for me to see your messages...09:05
hagusSorry Blissex :)09:06
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pettyhow do i enable root account?09:06
RogueXpetty: sudo09:06
Blissexhagus: have you written "root" in the user field of the CUPS form?09:06
rootfor login in graphical mode?09:06
pettyplse no sudo....i want to log as root in kubuntu09:06
uniqpetty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:06
DaSkreechpetty: You don't need to09:07
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DaSkreechpetty: You can sudo su09:07
pettyyes i would like to...lol09:07
hagusyes Blissex :) several times09:07
hagusI have even changed my root password to make it different from my user pwd and still no joy.09:07
mateuszRozumie kto po polsku a nie tylko ten piepszony angielski09:07
Blissexhagus: and the password you set with 'sudo passwd root' in the ''password'' field.09:08
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mateuszdo szkoy nie chodziliscie09:08
DaSkreechmateusz: What language?09:08
mateuszpo polsku09:08
hagusyes Blissex - I have tried every combination that I could think of.09:08
DaSkreech!polish09:08
ubotuI know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:08
DaSkreechDamn :-(09:08
hagusIt forbids me as root and user.09:08
DaSkreechmateusz: Hold on09:09
draikuniq, I thought petty already did that09:09
rooti can login as root in graphical mode and i got a different password for it..09:09
Blissexhagus: open 'Konsole' as normal user and then type 'su root' and then use the password you set. Does this work?09:09
rootas u see09:09
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Blissexroot: is that <hagus>?09:10
hagusI am not the same as root Blissex :)09:10
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uniqhagus: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface09:10
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Blissexuniq: aaaaahhh goos idea.09:11
Blissexuniq: aaaaahhh good idea.09:11
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DaSkreechAnyone speak polish?09:12
hagusOK, I shall go and have a look at that and stop frustrating everyone (myself included) :)  I am grateful for the help, if that counts for anything  :)09:12
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DaSkreechhagus: Hang around here and things make more sense... after a while09:12
hagusI am keen to beat this linux problem but my wife is moaning at me because she used to connect to my printer via windows network.09:13
hagusSo, I am under pressure from her indoors :)09:13
DaSkreech:-D09:14
DaSkreechmateusz: nie mog znajdowa polski serwer09:14
hagusI will catch you folk laterr when I have experimented a bit more.09:14
hagusThanks to everyone for patience.09:14
DaSkreechmateusz: JA bd widzie jeeli mog znajdowa kogo kto (ktry) mwi jzyk polski (blask) dla was09:15
gplfighter!pl09:15
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:15
hagusMy excuse is that I am 53 years of age - so the grey cells are much greyer and slower on the uptake.09:15
DaSkreechgplfighter: Doh!09:15
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DaSkreechhagus: Welcome :) I'm the same and I'm like 20 :-)09:16
DaSkreech!pl > mateusz09:16
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RogueXDoes Kubuntu have a themes installer?09:20
DaSkreechYeah09:20
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rnislydoes anyone know how to get sound working on a laptop running dapper?09:21
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RogueXDaSkreech: Know where/what it is?09:21
crimsunrnisly: be more precise regarding your hardware, please?09:21
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DaSkreechSystem Settings09:22
rnislysound card or other stuff09:22
RogueXDaSkreech: Yes I went there09:23
crimsunrnisly: right, but /which/ sound card?09:23
DaSkreechDid you search for theme?09:23
adam__any1 here play runescape? I can't get the sound working on it, I beleive it uses MIDI09:24
rnislyim not sure its a acer aspire 1640z09:24
rnislyi'll google09:24
crimsunrnisly: pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''09:24
crimsunadam__: does your sound hardware have midi support included?09:24
adam__IDK. MIDI worked when I had windows installed....09:25
RogueXDaSkreech: If your talking about Appearance that is not a theme installer.. I am looking for something like the orginal KDE gives you were it installs a theme package09:25
crimsunadam__: start by telling what sound hardware you have.09:26
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rnislyintel 8280109:26
crimsunrnisly: I need all the information that I requested on pastebin, please.09:27
rnislywon't it ban me if i paste all of it?09:28
Hawkwindrnisly: pastebin.ca is a website to paste it to09:28
adam__where do I find out the hardware? could it be NVIDIA GeForce?09:30
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rnislycrimsun : http://pastebin.ca/11570609:32
adam__In K Menu>System Settings>Sound &Multimedia>Hardware tab>Select your MIDI Device, there's none listed.09:32
adam__i probably need a driver?09:33
crimsunadam__: a geforce is a video card. I need to know your /sound/ card.09:33
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crimsunadam__: pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio''09:33
mark___hey guys I'm having a little trouble installing xmms09:33
mark___cant find it in the apt-get list09:33
crimsunmark___: is your main repository enabled? are you using a ubuntu mirror?09:33
mark___yep09:33
mark___as far as I know09:33
mark___maybe I should check09:34
adam__0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio (rev c2)09:34
adam__0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio (rev c2)09:34
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mark___lol09:34
mark___how do I check?09:34
crimsunadam__: so no, your hardware doesn't have support included. You need to load snd-seq, then start timidity -iA.09:34
crimsunadam__: ``sudo modprobe snd-seq && timidity -iA''09:34
crimsunmark___: apt-cache policy xmms |grep 50009:35
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mark___k09:35
crimsunrnisly: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''09:35
adam__bash: timidity: command not found09:36
mark___that tells me this: 500 http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages09:36
rnisly0: Realtek ALC88309:36
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adam__(i'm new to linux sry)09:36
crimsunadam__: install it.09:36
crimsun(use Adept)09:36
crimsunrnisly: ouch.09:37
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crimsunmark___: good. Now pastebin (don't paste in here) the entire error spew you get when you attempt to install it from the command line.09:37
rnislyya...09:37
crimsunrnisly: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $3 }'09:38
mark___it'll jyst be a sec cause I'm downloading eclipse at the mo09:38
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rnisly2.6.15-23.3909:39
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mikearthurhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131869 can people please try and check and confirm this bug09:40
crimsunrnisly: please update to 2.6.15-26.4609:40
rnislycan i use apt-get?09:40
rnislyapt-get upgrade kernel09:41
rnisly?09:41
crimsunrnisly: yes, just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade09:41
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mark_I have a little problem09:41
mark_mark@ExternalHD:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms09:41
mark_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:41
mark_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:41
rnislycrimsun : after i update my kernel should it work?09:42
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dr_willisyou got some other apt program going.09:42
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mark_yeah09:42
crimsunrnisly: it might. We've had tremendous problems getting the routing on realtek 88xs working correctly.09:42
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mark_i cancelled eclipse downloading halfway thru so I could get onto xmms09:42
rnislyok09:42
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mark_is eclipse still downloading?09:43
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HawkwindAnyone know what's up with archive.ubuntu.com today ?09:43
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uniqmark_: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock' will ask you if you want to kill whatever process locking.09:43
crimsunHawkwind: bandwidth problems at the London DC. Use a mirror. It won't be fixed for several more days (~week).09:43
mark_ok ty09:43
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Hawkwindcrimsun: What would you suggest using or where can I get a list of mirrors ?09:44
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tangmubaihello. is somewhere a fixed krusader package, witch did not cras when on dir contains duplicate filenames (with different case) ?09:44
mark_uniq how do i learn stuff like that?09:44
crimsunHawkwind: there's a wiki page for mirrors.09:44
mark_instead of bothering you guys?09:44
sepp.09:44
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crimsunHawkwind: additionally, kubuntu.org packages are mirrored.09:45
adam__ya  thought DOS had some weird commands.......where do i learn linux commands?09:45
Hawkwindcrimsun: So something like us.archive.ubuntu.com should work ok ?09:45
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dr_willisadam__,  google  is your friend.09:45
mark_i had a great big book that came with dos09:45
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dr_willisadam__,  and linux's shell (bash) and so on makes much more sence then dos ever did.09:45
mark_had all the commands there09:45
dr_willismark_,   oodles of bash tutorials out there. :P09:46
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damela good ftp client ?09:46
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Hawkwinddamel: ftp from CLI, gFTP, kftpgrabber, prozilla, kbear09:46
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dr_willisdamel,  define 'good' :) vs.. just works..09:46
damel.)09:47
uniqmark_: well.. you can buy a semi-advanced linux/unix book. Search the web for linux/unix commandline tips and tricks. or stay in here asking questions and looking at answers to others :)09:47
damellol09:47
damelthanks09:47
bigbill52ahow do you over ride the log in manager for kdm?09:47
uniqdamel: 'yafc' and 'lftp' for console ftp apps :)09:47
uniqbigbill52a: override how?09:48
bigbill52ai have tried changing it...but it is shure stubborn09:48
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bigbill52aso you can have a different background, etc09:48
dr_willisthers a gui/setting/preferance program in the menus somewhre  for kde.09:48
damelthanks09:49
bigbill52athey dont over ride the dern thing09:49
adam__draik: i'm not a registered user I guess cause it blocks my messages in private chat09:49
dr_willisThen ya are doing somthing very odd... they work fine for me.. you are enablign the administrator mode?09:49
draikSorry adam__09:49
bigbill52ayes09:49
draikLet me list them again for you09:49
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adam__no  i was getting ur messages I got them.09:50
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draikThis compares DOS to Unix commands  http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html09:50
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draikThat's a good start09:50
adam__but where do i register?09:50
draik!register > adam__09:50
uniqbigbill52a: open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc in a editor. go to line 450 and uncomment it. (add # at the very start of the line)09:50
uniqbigbill52a: now you've disabled the kubuntu theme on KDM.09:51
draikThis link shows you all the commands, well most of them anyway... http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/09:51
bigbill52athanks09:51
draikHere's another good one... http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml09:51
dekmy Kubuntu doesn't recognize 2 of my NTFS partitions, what should I do?09:51
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dekit's like they didn't exist, impossible to mount09:51
draikThis is basics... http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html09:52
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adam__k thanks draik that should be enough for now09:52
draikKew. That's all I had anyway09:52
htrakihello to all09:53
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draikdr_willis, google is the good friend. google.com/linux is a better friend09:54
jollyrogerCan someone help me with the adept installer?09:54
TheGateKeeperdek: have you consulted the ntfs howto's on the ubuntu forums?09:54
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deknope, lemme check09:55
draikjollyroger, what's wrong with your adept installer?09:55
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jollyrogerwell, i cant even mark the packages i want to install..09:55
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jollyrogerit seems like it dont connect at all..09:55
dr_willisyou ran it as root with sudo?09:55
draikyou mean you have a lag or you can't select the packages?09:56
bigbill52atheme =    comment that line?09:56
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jollyrogeri tryed both that and login as root in graphical mode (i enabled that)09:56
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jollyrogerthe packages are greymarked..09:56
htrakijollyroger:what site is set up in sources.list?09:57
jollyrogerand the list is not updated..09:57
draikapt-get update09:57
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draikapt-get upgrade09:57
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TheGateKeeperjollyroger: you should have a dialog appear asking you for your password when you start adept from the menu system09:57
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bigbill52ashould i change line 446 to false09:57
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draikTheGateKeeper, I don't have a PW pop-up. Disabled it09:57
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htrakiapt-get update is the right command09:58
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jollyrogerdo i have to reboot or something afterwards?09:58
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jollyrogercause it dont work anyway..09:58
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TheGateKeeperdraik: you run as root?09:58
draiknope09:58
jollyrogerY09:58
htrakino,just restart adept09:58
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jollyrogerwell, that didnt work..09:59
draikTheGateKeeper, I edited my /etc/sudoers file09:59
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rr72who listens to in flames?09:59
MikeMcAHi. Noob here, running kubuntu dapper.  I'm trying to find the python2.4-profiler package, which I've been told is only available from a "non-free repo."  Is there a specific repository I need to add or do I need to hunt around to find a specific one that has the package I want?  Thanks.10:00
jollyroger<rr72> me..10:00
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rr72jollyroger~ what does touch of red mean or representis?10:00
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jollyrogertouch of red?10:01
rr72*represent10:01
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rr72oops10:01
DinoflyMikeMcA: activate universe, multiverse and "commercial" repos using adept10:01
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htrakiMikeMCA: I paste my sources.list I use,add in adept10:02
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htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe10:03
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htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted multiverse universe10:03
CVirus-Cilantrowhat language is the systemsettings tool written with ?10:03
htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe10:03
htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted multiverse universe10:03
htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-proposed main restricted multiverse universe10:03
MikeMcAhtraki: thanks10:04
ThunderStruckhtraki: dont paste in here please10:04
htrakiApply and refresh10:04
jollyrogeri've restarted adept in root(graphmode) but the same problem appears..10:04
mark_guys10:04
MikeMcAhtraki: I see now what I was missing: I didn't realize you could add universe and multiverse components to each of the distribution categories.10:04
MikeMcAAwesome, thanks10:04
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mark_im stuck trying to install a gmail notifier10:05
draikmark_ for firefox?10:05
mark_i have a folder with a few files in it10:05
htrakigood luck10:05
mark_i think it's standalone10:05
rnislymark_ did you try kcheckgmail?10:05
mark_it'll open whatever browser you want10:05
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mark_ohh i'll do that10:05
rnislyok10:05
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draikmark_ I have mine installed from the firefox extension10:05
mark_looks like problem solved10:06
mark_brbr10:06
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RogueXI just downloaded .deb files can someone tell me what program to use to install?10:07
dr_willis!apt-get10:07
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:07
draikRogueX, just do 'sudo dpkg -i <package_name>'10:07
dr_willisread up on apt-get and the use of it.. 'dpkg -i whatever.deb' if you are luck will work10:08
RogueXThanks10:08
dr_willis:P10:08
htrakiRougeX: dpkg -i command as root10:08
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draiknp10:08
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CVirus-Cilantrowhat language is the systemsettings tool written with ?10:09
mark_that kgmail thing is working thanks10:09
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RogueXI ftp libdvdcss2 because it seems that PLF is down.  I hope I am doing this right :)10:09
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TheGateKeeperRogueX: sure you have the correct url?10:10
RogueXTheGateKeeper: I  got it in my sources.list file10:11
htrakiRogueX: no libdvdcss 4 dapper10:11
TheGateKeeper!pastebin > gatekeeper10:11
RogueXhtraki: I dont know...10:11
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RogueXTheGateKeeper: I dont know that.. can you explain??10:12
htrakihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats to get help10:12
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RogueXTheGateKeeper: This is what I got.  deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free10:13
TheGateKeeperRogueX: should look like that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1971910:13
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mark_ok last question10:14
mark_if I have a keyboard with play stop fast forward buttons, can I get that to work with xmms?10:14
mark_easily i mean10:15
mark_lol if it's complicated I dont want to know10:15
rnislymark_  you can use klinekd with amarok not sure about xmms10:15
htrakithx TheGateKeeper 4 the package10:15
mark_i'll try that10:16
TheGateKeeperhtraki: yw :-)10:16
mark_where can I find klinekd?10:17
rnislyadept :P10:17
rnislyklineakd.sourceforge.net i think10:17
mark_ohh10:17
mark_duh10:17
RogueXTheGateKeeper: this is what I get when I try to get libdvdcss2 from adept manager - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.10:18
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TheGateKeeperrnisly: 404 error10:18
rnislymark_: lineak.sourceforge.net10:18
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htrakiRougeX: use the url in browser10:19
CVirus-Cilantrowhat language is the systemsettings tool written with ?10:19
RogueXhtraki: Dont understand..10:19
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htrakiI paste the link 4 libdvdcss10:20
DaSkreechCan you recover deleted flies from aext3 FS?10:20
RogueXTheGateKeeper: I put thosThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.e lines in sources.list and no change... same error message10:21
htrakiDo U use dapper?10:21
RogueXhtraki: Yes I am10:22
htrakihttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/free/libdvdcss2/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.deb10:22
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TheGateKeeperRogueX: don't like the sound of that, not sure why that sould be happening, you could try modifying your sources.list then try sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories just correct PLF repos as per http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1971910:24
Jack1hi10:24
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TheGateKeeperRogueX: htraki plan sounds better go with that10:25
Jack1how can i make the font in the konqueror panel smaller (where it says location, edit,view,..)?10:25
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htrakiRogueX says nothing,is he still here?10:26
RogueXTheGateKeeper: Got error10:26
RogueXI put the repo in sources.list10:26
RogueXthats the error I got.10:26
TheGateKeeperRogueX: did you try htraki's method??10:27
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RogueXhtraki: I just got your file going to try it now10:27
htrakiOK10:27
ccc__Jack1: the menu? system settings > appearance > fonts > menu10:27
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RogueXhtraki: looks like it installed10:29
htrakiCool,try to play an crypted DVD10:29
Jack1system settings > appearance > fonts only for webpages not for the menu10:30
TheGateKeeperRogueX: what does this command return? cat /etc/issue10:30
RogueXit works!10:30
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RogueXyeah  dvd plays10:30
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htrakithen libdvdcss works10:31
dein3.5.4 is working now?10:31
XVampireX!headers10:31
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages10:31
XVampireXhmm10:31
TheGateKeeperdein: yes allegedly10:31
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XVampireXI need kde headers to install kbfx10:31
soulrider!java10:31
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:31
TheGateKeeperRogueX: what does this command return? cat /etc/issue10:31
deinanyone know about its stability compared to 3.5.3?10:31
ccc__Jack1: not sure i understand you. that font settings changes the menu fonts.10:31
RogueXTheGateKeeper: /etc/issue  ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l10:32
bl3ssinghello guys, how're you doing?10:32
bl3ssing:)10:32
htrakihello bl3ssing10:32
deinnot to mention, is it faster than 3.5.3?10:32
TheGateKeeperRogueX: that's ok just checking, sources.list all say dapper not breezy?10:32
bl3ssinghtraki, are'u ok?10:32
Jack1<ccc__>i want to chnage the panel font size but in he settings only the fonts for webpages and filebrowsing are adaptable10:33
bl3ssingwhich's the best java IDE for linux? does anybody know?10:33
htrakiIm all right, How do U do?10:33
hagusI am pleased to report success after studying the advice received in this channel.  I can now print to my printer.  Hurray!10:33
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Jack1is opera recommendable over konqeror as web browser?10:34
XVampireXYeah, it's pretty good10:34
bl3ssinghagus, this channel's really helpful. I wanted to update my Kubuntu from the older vers. to the newest ... and I did it. :D10:34
TheGateKeeperbl3ssing: I am talking out of ignorance here but don't most use eclipse?10:34
RogueXTheGateKeeper: I still show problem that started all this..  libdvdcss2 - conflict: libdvdcss0.0.110:34
ccc__Jack1: i'm talking about "system settings" in the k-menu, which alters your global settings (including konqueror). not the one in konqueror.10:34
hagusFirefox is jolly good too imho :)10:34
htrakiAs good know IBM has IDE 4 linux10:34
ccc__Jack1: i prefer opera, but konqueror is good :) both are way faster than for example firefox10:34
bl3ssingTheGateKeeper, but? ...10:35
Jack1<ccc__>right but i cannot adapt the size onlyin konqui can i?10:35
RogueXTheGateKeeper: so now I cant update or remove libdvdcss210:35
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Jack1konqi should start up faster than firefox as a genuine kde thing is this right?10:35
bl3ssingany music composing software in linux? I mean .. the best? :)10:35
Jack1than opera i mean10:35
htrakiRougeX: tried dpkg --purge command10:36
TheGateKeeperRogueX: have you synaptic installed?10:36
RogueXTheGateKeeper: yes10:36
DaSkreechhagus: Make sure your wife gives you a kiss :)10:37
DaSkreechbl3ssing: There is an article on it on ars technica10:37
hagusI want to be able to share my printer with others on my wired home network.  Now that I managed to communicate with the printer, what do I do?  lol DaSkreech :)10:37
bl3ssingwhat's a ars technica?10:37
htrakiDont know any music creator prg10:37
bl3ssingDaSkreech, what's a ars technica?10:37
hagusShe will not give me the kiss until I let her print from my printer :)10:37
Jack1technical art?10:37
DaSkreechbl3ssing: Gimmie a moment10:37
RogueXhtraki: I ran command but it says file isnt installed but Adept manager and synaptic says they are10:38
TheGateKeeperRogueX: go with htraki suggestion , but you could start up synaptic, see if there are any broken packages and either reinstall or remove10:38
bl3ssingDaSkreech, sure. :)10:38
RogueXTheGateKeeper: I ran command but it says file isnt installed but Adept manager and synaptic says they are10:38
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DaSkreechbl3ssing: http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars10:39
htrakiRougeX: dpkg --list libdvdcss10:39
RogueXIt seems as though all the package managers think there are files installed when there really is not.  Anyway to fix that?10:39
RogueXhtraki:  un  libdvdcss      <none>         (no description available)10:40
htrakidpkg -l | grep libdvdcss10:40
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RogueXii  libdvdcss2                             1.2.9-1plf4                             portable abstraction library for DVD decrypt10:40
DaSkreechhagus: There was a document on it....10:41
htrakiI think there isnt any other dvdcss10:41
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RogueXhtraki: OK I am pretty sure the problem now is that dpkg thinks there are files installed on the system when they are not10:41
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htrakiDid U see that the dpkg says setting up libdvdcss after install10:42
Jack1could i copy my bookmarks from konqi in opera ? would it work?10:43
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RogueXhtraki: dpkg thinks the files libdvdcss0.0.1 and libdvdcss0.0.2 are installed but they are not.  I did a file search on the whole system and they are not found10:43
HawkwindJack1: Doubtful as it probably uses a different layout10:43
HawkwindJack1: You might be able t export them from Opera though, not sure10:43
htrakiIn /usr/lib dir by hand?10:44
DaSkreechhagus: I think it might be at the CUPS site10:44
hagusah ok ty DaSkreech :)10:44
RogueXhtraki: yes those 2 files are not installed even though Adept Manager and Synaptic says they are10:44
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HawkwindRogueX: Did you do a sudo updatedb *before* searching for the files on your system ?10:45
RogueXhtraki: Any way to clear them?10:45
Jack1there is an option import from konqu. but it doesnt show me the hidden folders and the bookmars are in the hidden folder .kde10:45
htrakiThen U have to create those files with links10:45
Jack1how to show that?10:45
htrakiTried dpkg --purge libdvdcss210:46
Jack1ah ok its cool10:47
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Jack1import from konqueror then open home/usrname/.kde/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml10:47
RogueXhtraki: Just ran that command10:47
RogueXhtraki: I assume I need to try and reinstall?10:48
Jack1however konqui has this nice amarok plugin10:48
HawkwindJack1: So you got your bookmarks now ?10:48
htrakiI dont know?!10:48
BluesKajOK, it looked like my konsol install of DeCSS was successful but it does show up in synaptic even after updating and upgrading apt ...is there another way to see if DeCSS is installed ?10:48
BluesKajdoesn't show up10:49
soulrider!nonfree10:49
ubotuI know nothing about nonfree - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:49
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HawkwindBluesKaj: dpkg -l DeCSS10:49
soulrider!mp310:49
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HawkwindBluesKaj: Assuming that is the actual name of the app.  Might just be decss or something similar10:49
TheGateKeeperRogueX: how long ago did you install dapper, fresh install or upgrade?10:49
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Jack1<Hawkwind>yes it works fine actually using konqueror has many advantages10:50
draikIs there a way of knowing the install date of Kubuntu?10:50
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RogueXhtraki: I am back to the same thing again.. LOL  Adept says libdvdcss2 not installed and cant because of confilict10:50
Jack1just opera works better with those flash things and stuff10:50
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rr72!flash10:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:50
Jack1<rr72>i read that10:50
RogueXTheGateKeeper: I just installed last week10:50
TheGateKeeperRogueX: can you play dvds?10:51
rr72Jack1~ that was for my own reading10:51
Jack1<rr72>ok sry i thought that was response10:51
rr72i don't even know u had a question, im not here, im playing a game10:51
RogueXTheGateKeeper: not since I ran the purge command10:51
DaSkreechrr72: please stop doing that in the channel play with the bot in /msg10:51
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htrakiRogueX:Command line never fails10:52
DaSkreechrr72: Bots get lonely too :)10:52
rr72DaSkreech~ that ws my first time "playing" with that bot10:52
htrakiuse dpkg10:52
RogueXTheGateKeeper: is there anyway to fix dpkg's index list of what is installed?10:52
HawkwindLOL DaSkreech10:52
rr72i have 3 bots and they all do nothing, they are just code they can't get lonely10:52
RogueXhtraki: what was that suggestion to making the files?10:52
rr72can i get source code for opera?10:52
htrakidpkg --pending10:53
DaSkreechYeah but if it's confusing people in the channel it's not helping. You can play with it in /msg10:53
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gnomefre1krr72: no10:53
TheGateKeeperRogueX: beyond my current knowledge sorry :-(10:53
rr72gnomefre1k~ :(10:53
rr72DaSkreech~ i wasnt playing10:53
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rr72gnomefre1k~ any specific reason or no?10:53
gnomefre1krr72: its closed source10:53
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rr72that would be a good reason10:54
gnomefre1kbrb10:54
rr72ty gnomefre1k10:54
RogueXhtraki: dpkg --pending... needs action item10:54
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htrakiadd --purge after pending10:57
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RogueXI ran it10:59
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bl3ssingDaSkreech, did you find out which's the best of the audio programs in linux?11:02
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DaSkreechbl3ssing: Did you read the article?11:03
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mmorrisIs anyone here answering questions?11:05
mmorrisHello???11:06
DaSkreechmmorris: No11:06
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DaSkreechDoh! I just naswered one11:06
TheGateKeepermmorris: first you have to ask one :-)11:06
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mmorrisoh11:06
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uniqmmorris: shoot.11:06
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uniq:)11:06
mmorrisI am brand spankin new to Kubuntu...but I was told about XGL, where can I find this at?11:07
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DaSkreechmmorris: Might want to finish with the spanking before that :)11:07
mmorrisha ha11:07
mmorrisspanking is over with...11:07
DaSkreech!xgl11:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:07
DaSkreechThe last URL11:08
DaSkreechIt will break stuff you have been warned11:08
RogueXDaSkreech: Know anything about how to fix dpkg?11:09
DaSkreechWhat's broken?11:09
TheGateKeepermmorris: not officially supported to you might want to learn to walk before you try to run, there are also other channels if you need help with xgl like #ubuntu-xgl11:09
RogueXDaSkreech: Adept says 2 files are install that are really not installed11:09
mmorrisokay... thanks11:10
DaSkreechreally?11:10
DaSkreechWhich two11:10
RogueXDaSkreech: yes... and inturn it wont let me install packages11:10
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RogueXDaSkreech: because of conflict11:11
DaSkreechhave you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a11:11
uniqRogueX: what packages are you talking about? and what files?11:11
RogueXDaSkreech: just did now...   lol11:11
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RogueXuniq: I have 2 files libdvdcss0.0.1 and libdvdcss0.0.2 NOT on system but Adept and Synaptic thinks they are so I can not install libdvdcss2 because of conflict with the 2 no existent files11:13
DaSkreechRogueX: Worked?11:13
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uniqRogueX: if adept and synaptic think they are, did you try to remove them?11:14
RogueXDaSkreech: no  :( still listed11:14
RogueXuniq: how do you remove somthing thats not there?11:14
uniqRogueX: tried to remove them with 'sudo dpkg -P libdvdcss0.0.1' ?11:14
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uniqRogueX: well.. adept/synaptic/dpkg doesn't just make up installed packaged.11:15
uniqpackages.. that is.11:15
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RogueXdpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libdvdcss0.0.1 which isn't installed.11:15
uniqok, what's the error when you try to install libdvdcss2 then?11:15
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ErtainEvery time I download the ManDVD archive for the latest release, Ark can't open it.11:18
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RogueXuniq: Synaptic installed it.. finally.. some progress..11:19
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RogueXuniq: But Adept Manager still reports conflict.  eventhough its installed11:20
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uniqwhat conflict? error message please.11:20
bl3ssingyes11:20
bl3ssingDaSkreech, YES!11:20
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bl3ssingDaSkreech, rosegarden is the ONE?11:20
DaSkreechSo grab the one that speaks to you and try it out :)11:21
mmorrisIf I install a program from Adept, how does that work?11:21
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DaSkreechmmorris: Which program?11:21
nizoralciao a tutti ho un problema con firefox scaricc.. con apt-get potete aiutarmi??? grazie11:21
mmorristhat 3d thing11:22
DaSkreech!es11:22
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:22
RogueXuniq: does not give error message just shows " conflict : libdvdcss0.0.111:22
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DaSkreechmmorris: Ah XGL and compiz?11:22
mmorriswell, just 3d desktop11:22
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mmorrisi don't want to try the real thing yet11:22
DaSkreechAhhhm hold on11:22
mmorrislol11:22
uniqRogueX: ok, what if you try to do something with apt-get in konsole?11:23
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mmorrisokay11:23
DaSkreechmmorris: Oh that thing. It gives you an applet so that you have a button the taskbar11:23
RogueXuniq: I think I am going to give up and worry about it when it breaks again.  It is only a problem when an update comes out then I cant install the update11:23
DaSkreechThen you press it and your desktop goes 3D11:24
DaSkreechWell the switcher goes 3D11:24
mmorriswhere is the button?11:24
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mmorrisI dont see it11:24
RogueXuniq: Thank you11:25
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mmorrisDaScreech - where is the button that it gives me?11:25
DaSkreechmmorris: As I recall Right click the taskbar and select add applet11:25
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mmorriswhich applet is it?11:26
mmorrisI dont see it in there11:26
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rmw75need help with wireless card11:27
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mmorrisDaScreech: which applet do I add?  I dont see it in the list611:28
mmorrislist11:28
DaSkreechHOld on11:28
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DaSkreechmmorris: Can You open a konsole?11:28
mmorrisyea11:28
DaSkreechtype 3ddesk11:29
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mmorrisoh, okay11:29
DaSkreechIt worked?11:29
mmorrisso, everytime I want to do that, I have to type that command in?11:29
mmorrisyeah, it worked... but it was so small, I couldn't see the screen... that just turned the desktops11:30
DaSkreechNope add a non KDE menu launcher applet11:30
DaSkreechYou can adjust the distance11:30
rmw75need help with wireless card11:31
DaSkreech!wireless11:31
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:31
mmorrisDaSkreech:  what do I type in this Non-KDE Application?11:31
rmw75it's installed right just not activating11:31
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scotthiya folks11:32
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scottany got any tips for a new Linux user on using K9 copy11:32
mmorrisDaSkreech: you here?11:32
DaSkreechYou can name the top too anything that you like11:32
DaSkreechthe thrid one is 3ddesk in quotes11:32
DaSkreech"3ddesk"11:32
mmorrisexecutable?11:32
scottI have a dvd of my holiday that a friend put together and it is encryted and will not actually make further copies11:32
DaSkreechYes11:33
mmorristhen what?11:33
DaSkreechYou can press the button with the gears to choose a new icon if you like11:33
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DaSkreechThen I think you can press ok11:33
DaSkreechThen use that button11:33
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mmorrisHow can I adjust the distance?11:34
DaSkreechErm11:34
mmorrisWhat is Erm?11:34
mmorrisyou may not even be talking to me...11:35
DaSkreechI think there is a config file11:35
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mmorriswhere would that be at, and what would it be called?11:35
DaSkreechlook in ~/.3ddesktop11:35
scottI am told it is like shrink but it does not seem to work the same way11:35
mmorriswhere would that be DaSkreech?11:36
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DaSkreechSorry11:36
DaSkreech~ is your home folder11:36
mmorrisI didn't see one there11:36
DaSkreechand a . means that it's a hidden folder11:36
DaSkreechSo look in the view menu and show hidden folders11:37
mmorrissorry, I see it11:37
DaSkreechThough I'm thinking maybe not...11:37
mmorrisAll it has is a file in it called pid11:37
DaSkreechok11:37
mmorrisI open pid and all I get is a 602411:37
DaSkreechStill have the konsole open?11:37
mmorrisyes11:38
DaSkreechtype man 3ddesk11:38
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DaSkreechThat should give you a manual you can read11:38
shadedpast Help neither of my cd drives are displayed in media11:38
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shadedpastit wont register them when inserted either it says file cannot be found11:39
DaSkreechDoes your cdroms turn up in the system settings?11:40
shadedpastno11:40
DaSkreechHrmm11:40
DaSkreechAnd they turn up in the BIOS?11:41
shadedpasto they apear in system settings11:41
DaSkreechDo they have any error messages?11:41
shadedpastno11:41
DaSkreechThis is under Disks and filesystems?11:42
shadedpast???11:42
shadedpasto yes11:43
mmorrisDaSkreech... I hate to be a bother, but I don't understand that stuff...11:43
DaSkreechmmorris: What does it say?11:43
DaSkreechOk does it say disabled?11:43
DaSkreechshadedpast: Does it say disabled?11:43
mmorrisit looks like it gives me a list of commands, but they don't mean anything to me...11:43
mmorrislol11:43
shadedpastno11:43
shadedpastit shows up normal11:43
DaSkreechshadedpast: have you tried moutning them yourself?11:44
DaSkreechmmorris: ok What don't you understand about them?11:44
shadedpastbut under media all that appears is my floppy11:44
shadedpasthow?11:44
DaSkreechshadedpast: Want to do a quick dirty test?11:44
shadedpastsure11:45
mmorrisWell, first of all I dont know which one is supposed to adjust the zoom, and second, if I did know, I wouldn't know how to use them... they all do the same thing.  I know I'm doing something wrong11:45
shadedpastnext to them it doesn't say disabled or enabled11:45
DaSkreechMake a dir in your home folder called CDROM11:45
shadedpastk11:45
DaSkreechmmorris: Someone told me that there is a configuration file. See if they mention one in the manual just scan past the commands stuff11:46
DaSkreechshadedpast: From the konsole type sudo mount /dev/cdrom ~/CDROM11:46
DaSkreechmmorris: Do you read tihngs easier in the browser?11:46
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soulriderhi11:47
DaSkreechhi11:47
soulriderwhats a good aprtition manager i can use to reformat an unformated partition ?11:47
mmorrisI see there is supposed to be a file called /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf11:47
DaSkreechgparted11:47
DaSkreechmmorris: Sweet :-)11:47
DaSkreechOk can you open that in a text editor?11:48
shadedpastit says block device /dev/cdrom is write protected11:48
mmorriswhere is etc?11:48
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DaSkreechshadedpast: Erm Yeah I guess. Is it a blank CD?11:48
DaSkreechmmorris: Under /11:48
shadedpastno11:48
shadedpastit's starcraft11:48
DaSkreechAH :)11:49
shadedpastbroodwar11:49
DaSkreechIt works under Wine?11:49
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mmorrisso, let me get this straight... in order to find a file in Kubuntu, you just type the file name in the address bar?11:49
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DaSkreechYou could do that11:49
soulridertheres somethign that is nto letting adept instyall programs, how can i know what it is? ia lready checked adn there are no instances of adept running11:50
DaSkreechsoulrider: how did you check11:51
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soulriderksysguard11:51
soulrideri went to konsole now11:51
soulriderand i did11:51
soulriderdpkg --configure -a11:51
DaSkreechshadedpast: what's up?11:51
soulriderapparently there were some stiff waiting to be insatlled11:51
DaSkreechYeah :-)11:51
shadedpastit doesn't work yet11:51
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mmorrisDaSkreech: what do I do now???   :)11:51
mmorrissorry11:51
DaSkreechWhere are you at?11:51
shadedpastme11:51
DaSkreechYou opened the file?11:51
DaSkreechshadedpast: Yeah.11:52
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DaSkreechYou tried to mount it from the command line?11:52
mmorrisyea, but can't make changes, and not sure I knew what changes to make if I could11:52
shadedpastbut it does appear under dev but it won't let me open11:52
mmorrisare you talking to me about the command line mount?11:52
DaSkreechshadedpast: Yeah you can't open a dev file that's for the computer11:52
DaSkreechmmorris: Nope11:52
mmorrisokay11:52
mmorrissorry11:52
shadedpast o ok11:52
CVirus-Cilantrowhat language is the systemsettings tool written with ?11:53
DaSkreechmmorris: Read the file and see if the file makes any sense to you11:53
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DaSkreechmmorris: Oh You know what? try man 3ddesktop.conf11:53
shadedpastDaSkreech: so now what11:53
mmorrisDaSkreech: It says that depth-how far to zoom out11:53
mmorrisI can't make any changes though11:53
DaSkreechshadedpast: What did the sudo mount command give you?11:53
mmorrisokay, trying right now11:53
DaSkreechmmorris: Ok That's what you need to change then11:54
shadedpastDaSkreech: it said it mounted as read only11:54
mmorrishow do I change it?11:54
shadedpastDaSkreech:  as i said before11:54
DaSkreechshadedpast: Did you try opening the CDROM folder you made?11:54
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shadedpastDaSkreech:  no11:54
DaSkreechshadedpast: Try that11:54
shadedpastDaSkreech: ah it reads the disk11:54
DaSkreechYeah :-)11:55
shadedpastit's there11:55
shadedpastDaSkreech: it's there11:55
mmorrishow can I make changes in this .conf file11:55
shadedpastDaSkreech: is it possible for it to work normally?11:55
soulridererr, i got 3 NTFS partitions and sudo fdisk -l|grep NTFS is showing only one :/11:55
DaSkreechshadedpast: Yes I should think so. I'm not sure how to diagnose it right now though11:56
shadedpastDaSkreech: o ok11:56
DaSkreechshadedpast: If you ask in here at an earlier time I'm sure you'd get help11:56
DaSkreechmmorris: You may have to open it with a sudo11:56
DaSkreechmmorris: In the konsole type kdesu kate /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf11:57
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shadedpastDaSkreech: like around eight11:57
shadedpastDaSkreech: ???11:57
DaSkreechUmm . :-) I don't know what the time is now for you but if you like you can hang around here and ask when it gets busier11:58
DaSkreechmmorris: Should ask you for a password11:58
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mmorrisI alredy changed the depth11:58
shadedpastDaSkreech:  o yeah duh, ok11:58
mmorrisis that all I do?11:58
mmorrisnow should it be different?11:58
mmorrisstill the same11:59
mmorrisDaSkreech: I think maybe I am supposed to use a command to change the depth11:59
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mmorrisIs there a way I can send you this file to see if you can make heads or tails out of it?12:00
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DaSkreechYes12:00
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DaSkreech!paste12:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:00
mmorrisIn here?12:00
DaSkreechuse that site12:00
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mmorriswhat site?12:00
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DaSkreech!paste >  mmorris12:00
DaSkreechnixternal_: Hey Bro12:01
DaSkreechmmorris: The one the bot just sent you12:01
DaSkreechbl3ssing: How goes?12:01
nixternal_arg12:01
DaSkreechnixternal_: Issues?12:01
nixternal_my other machine is trashed..and i don't know if it is kernel or kde 3.5.412:01
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nixternal_kde 3.5.4 will not run now..and it had been previously until i just did an update12:02
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mmorrisDaSkreech...did you get it?12:03
DaSkreechmmorris: Paste the link here12:03
DaSkreechThe URL that you get in the browser :)12:03
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DaSkreechmmorris: Did you just try to paste the file here?12:04
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thompadoes anyone know what the latest kernel image update for amd64 is for?12:07
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