[12:09] <noxs> another question....is there a tool for opening/editing .ai files (vector graphics of Adobe Illustrator) for linux?
[12:09] <dako> OK
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> Daskreech: Not sure what is new but the last modified date is 2006 (when the plf ones were sometime in 2005)
[12:10] <dako> Was able to open it, but now I get this message "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> dako: You did that without closing adept ? (I asked you if you had any applications open that could be using the database)
[12:12] <dako> I did the sudo with adept closed
[12:12] <cpk2> !nfs
[12:12] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:12] <Smooph> dako open a konsole type "ps ax | grep apt" and kill those processes than try it again
[12:12] <cpk2> !nfs-utils
[12:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about nfs-utils - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:12] <cpk2> !info nfs-utils
[12:12] <ubotu> Package nfs-utils does not exist in dapper
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> dako: close adept - and do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:13] <Smooph> this is a way too dako
[12:14] <dako> OK.it's doing something
[12:15] <dako> It's setting up alot of programs
[12:16] <GlaCeAuSky> salut tout le monde
[12:16] <GlaCeAuSky> besoin d'une chtite aide pr un noob ^
[12:16] <zappix> BAH. My desktop just froze ;-;
[12:16] <zappix> There we go
[12:16] <GlaCeAuSky> french here ?
[12:17] <dako> I am in it. In preview changes kaudiocreater is at status Broken(Upgrade). Should I delete this?
[12:19] <bgrimm> is there a clean way to uninstall openoffice instead of manually removing packages with the package manager?
[12:20] <zappix> Okay
[12:20] <zappix> Anyone know how to set up Firefox?
[12:21] <zappix> Konquerer doesn't work right with some parts of my site ;-;
[12:21] <zappix> Like these Javascript menus
[12:21] <BluesKaj> bgrimm,I had to remove some badly residual configged pkgs in order to install Openoffice
[12:21] <sebbar> why don't make your site konqueror compatible?
[12:22] <zappix> !firefox
[12:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:22] <zappix> ......no it ain't D:
[12:23] <BluesKaj> bgrimm,remove the offending pkges manually in the status option in synaptic
[12:23] <bgrimm> k, slow painful way. but so far is working...
[12:23] <BluesKaj> yup, slow but it worked for me :)
[12:23] <XVampireX> If I have a ubuntu cd, can I install kubuntu without installing gnome stuff?
[12:24] <dr_willis> XVampireX,  could do a server install i guess.. but gnome + kde is the way to go- to use both. :)
[12:24] <dr_willis> gnome and kde both have a lot of nice apps. that ya can mixx and match
[12:24] <XVampireX> Someone should release a Canonical CD (ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu) that just retrieves the packages directly from the internet, and not from CD
[12:25] <dr_willis> the servers are loaded enough as it is. :)
[12:25] <XVampireX> I'd like a customized version too, I.E: Choose packages to install
[12:25] <dr_willis> it really SUCKS when ya cant install due to server load.
[12:25] <XVampireX> dr_willis, Agree
[12:26] <dr_willis> But i tend to install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[12:26] <dr_willis> then i got a script thatisntalls all the other stuff i  normally want
[12:26] <dek> how do i see if my internet connection is active, IP, and stuff?
[12:26] <XVampireX> dr_willis, only 40gb HD here, sorry.
[12:26] <dr_willis> thats plenty! :)
[12:26] <dr_willis> no room for porn however.
[12:27] <dr_willis> :()
[12:27] <XVampireX> dr_willis, Exactly, and I'm not talking about porn, I'm going to collect music and run it through amarok/some music daemon (mpd/xmms2)
[12:27] <XVampireX> and PSX games
[12:27] <h3sp4wn> dek: try pinging an ip (eg 'ping 194.112.32.1' - I know that should be up)
[12:27] <dr_willis> Heh
[12:27] <dr_willis> MAME rom set is up to 14gb now.
[12:28] <XVampireX> And I don't like having gnome apps in kde panel
[12:28] <dek> I mean not testing it xD but like seeing a window that tells me my ip and stuff
[12:28] <XVampireX> or other way around
[12:28] <dr_willis> *meh*
[12:28] <cpk2> dek: ifconfig
[12:28] <dr_willis> i can rarely notice if an app is kde or gnome based.. i use whatever tool does the job the best.
[12:29] <dek> thanks
[12:29] <dr_willis> if you are that tight for space may want to check out xubuntu, not sure how much smaller it is.
[12:29] <cpk2> if you want a really messy output you can use netstat
[12:29] <dek> it's enough just wanted to know that :P
[12:29] <dek> do you know any nice guide for linux beginners
[12:30] <dek> i mean to really get to understand linux
[12:30] <dek> not working mechanically :P
[12:30] <ep> what does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?
[12:31] <Daskreech> zappix: Yes it is :)
[12:31] <dr_willis> ep checks the packages to make sure they are all configured right I think
[12:31] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[12:31] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:31] <dek> !Adept
[12:31] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:32] <cpk2> !i686
[12:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about i686 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:36] <pihl> I've reinstalled KDM due to I screwed some things up, now when I am prompted with the login screen I am unable to type letters, only numbers, any ideas how to fix this?
[12:38] <noxs> how to stream asx files?
[12:38] <shides> ciao
[12:39] <shides> ma con questo irc si scambiiano file??
[12:41] <XVampireX> noxs, YOU want to stream ASX files? or do you want to watch ASX streams?
[12:42] <XVampireX> noxs: Best bet is on VLC, which does either.
[12:42] <noxs> sry...you are right!...i mean watching asx streams
[12:42] <noxs> ah i see...okay
[12:42] <noxs> thx
[12:42] <XVampireX> But
[12:42] <XVampireX> You need w32codecs
[12:42] <XVampireX> !w32codecs
[12:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:43] <XVampireX> noxs, go to these (Especially first one) and read through it, it will enable all formats, alternatively, use either Automatix or EasyUbuntu
[12:43] <noxs> thx a lot!
[12:43] <XVampireX> No problems
[12:44] <XVampireX> You can query the bot for either automatix or easyubuntu through !
[12:44] <XVampireX> just like I did with w32codecs
[12:44] <noxs> hmm..okay
[12:44] <noxs> very nice
[12:44] <XVampireX> But easyubuntu/automatix have a GUI so you will most likely want this if you're new to linux
[12:45] <dek> does a newsreader come with Kubuntu or I have to download one?
[12:45] <XVampireX> come with kubuntu
[12:45] <XVampireX> comes^
[12:46] <dek> which one?
[12:46] <dek> name?
[12:46] <forkz> !skype
[12:46] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:46] <XVampireX> akregator
[12:46] <XVampireX> what do you mean newsreader?
[12:46] <XVampireX> RSS or...?
[12:46] <dek> no, newsgroups
[12:46] <XVampireX> If anything else, you'd want Kontact
[12:46] <QMario> Why does KDE seem more buggy than GNOME?
[12:46] <dek> not RSS Feeds
[12:46] <XVampireX> which comes with kubuntu
[12:46] <dek> ok maybe mail client does it =)
[12:46] <XVampireX> Kontact = all in one
[12:46] <dek> ok thanks
[12:47] <XVampireX> no problems
[12:48] <noxs> great! it works!
[12:49] <XVampireX> :)
[12:52] <pip> ummmm,,,,,,,,,,
[12:52] <pip> hello
[12:54] <pihl> I've reinstalled KDM due to I screwed some things up, now when I am prompted with the login screen I am unable to type letters, only numbers, any ideas how to fix this?
[12:54] <pihl> I also get the error "cannot open theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu"
[12:56] <pip_moo> i have no clue, seems like it did that to me once, but i just reinstalled kubuntu
[12:56] <pip_moo> no one seems to talk here ;)
[12:56] <Agios> maybe it's your nick :)
[12:56] <tdn> Can I get some help to get the sound to work in KDE here? I installed kubuntu-desktop and now the sound does not work in KDE.
[12:56] <pihl> what's the easiest way to reinstall kubuntu then? format the partition and pop in the cd?
[12:57] <moo_master> better?
[12:57] <Agios> pihl: that will work but I recommend you use the alternate cd, not the live cd.
[12:57] <pihl> ok :)
[12:57] <Agios> tdn, make sure to check your mixer settings.
[12:58] <tdn> Agios, how do I check those?
[12:58] <tdn> Agios, I'm not sure what you mean by mixer settings.
[12:58] <Agios> tdn, start kmix and play with the adjustments
[12:58] <moo_master> it will be kmix in the mulimedia section of your kmenu
[12:59] <Agios> tdn: if that's ok go into kcontrol and change the sound driver to different drivers. ALSA and OSS are the best bets.
[12:59] <tdn> Agios, oh. I already did that. Everything seems OK there. Except that the sound icon in the panel says that sound is disabled and sound does not work...
[01:00] <Agios> try some other drivers then.
[01:00] <tdn> Agios, in kcontrol -> sound & multimedia -> sound system, Enable the sound system is enabled.
[01:00] <pip> is there a way to make konqueror smoother? Like a higher refresh or something? Firefox is way smooth but konqueror is all jerky for me. just wondering
[01:00] <Agios> tdn: look under hardware for the drivers
[01:01] <tdn> Agios, it is set to Autodetect.
[01:01] <Agios> pip, I haven't noticed that
[01:01] <pip> like i move a window over koqueror and it leaves big trails
[01:01] <tdn> Should I set it to ALSA?
[01:01] <Agios> tdn, force it to alsa
[01:01] <tdn> Ok.
[01:01] <Agios> since it's not working, yes :)
[01:01] <tdn> Agios, and then it should work if I play a sound file?
[01:02] <soulrider> does anyone have any idea of hwo i can update my kernel? im not using the latest one,a nd when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it says there are no upgrades available
[01:02] <pip> huh, well just wondering
[01:02] <tdn> Agios, it still does not work.
[01:02] <Agios> pip, interesting. I don't see that behaviour here
[01:02] <Agios> tdn, try oss then
[01:03] <tdn> Agios, hmm... well I used ALSA in Gnome and it worked fine...
[01:03] <tdn> Agios, OSS does not work either.
[01:04] <Agios> tdn, I don't know then
[01:04] <tdn> Agios, ok :(
[01:04] <Agios> check the kubuntu forums
[01:04] <tdn> Then I have to change back to Gnome :(
[01:04] <pip> sudo apt-get linux-image then your processor type will update your kernel
[01:04] <pip> actually it should do it automatically in adept
[01:05] <pip> click fetch updates
[01:05] <pip> then apply
[01:05] <Agios> soulrider: which kernel would you like to install?
[01:06] <soulrider> lastest
[01:06] <tdn> Agios, I'll check the forums. Thanks for the try.
[01:06] <soulrider> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:           2.6.17.7
[01:06] <soulrider> and i have
[01:06] <soulrider> 2.6.15-26-386
[01:07] <pip> probobly have to build it yourself
[01:07] <soulrider> the thing is
[01:07] <soulrider> adept downloaded it
[01:07] <soulrider> but tis like ti didnt install it
[01:08] <gekko`> soulrider: what does uname -r say?
[01:09] <soulrider> 2.6.15-26-386
[01:09] <pip> i dont see 2.6.17 in adept
[01:09] <Agios> if it's downloaded you can install it with dpkg
[01:09] <gekko`> soulrider: you could donwnload the kernel?
[01:10] <soulrider> i think so, im almost 100% positive it was downlaoded earlier
[01:10] <soulrider> besides, i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it says theres nothing to upgrade
[01:10] <Philip5> SpAwN: are you there?
[01:10] <gekko`> soulrider: check 'ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep linux-image
[01:10] <Agios> where do you see that 2.6.17.7 is the latest stable kernel?
[01:11] <pip> why do you want the latest kernel so bad anyway?
[01:11] <soulrider> finger linux@kernel.org
[01:11] <Agios> if you are getting that from kernel.org I doubt there is a package for it yet
[01:11] <soulrider> gekko`: how do i heck that?
[01:11] <shides> ciao
[01:11] <shides> a tutit
[01:11] <shides> tutti
[01:11] <gekko`> soulrider: type that in a terminal
[01:12] <shides> chi  disposto ad aiutarmi
[01:12] <soulrider> with sudo right?
[01:12] <gekko`> no need for sudo
[01:12] <soulrider> ok
[01:12] <shides> ad installare aMule nel kubuntu?
[01:12] <soulrider> linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb
[01:12] <gekko`> it just lists the content of that dir
[01:12] <Agios> although I may go get it and try it. i2o was broken in 2.6.17.6
[01:12] <BluesKaj> !it
[01:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:13] <shides> ok grazie
[01:13] <gekko`> soulrider: that's the latest kernel for ubuntu. if you want a newer one you need to compile a kernel on your own
[01:13] <BluesKaj> ciao
[01:13] <soulrider> ok, i dont think ill be doing that
[01:13] <soulrider> ill just wait until a friendly geek releases the package :P
[01:14] <soulrider> thanks for the help! =D
[01:14] <Agios> it's not that hard :)
[01:14] <gekko`> it's not hard as long as you know what you do
[01:15] <BluesKaj> hmmm I guess I'm a bit behind the kernel curve ... 2.6.15.24
[01:15] <pip> so are random lockups pretty common with the fglrx driver for ati cards? I used to have a problem with that bad, but now i'm using hte stock ati drivers with ubuntu, and i havnt had a freeze yet.
[01:15] <nagyv> any ideas how to synchronize kontact with my Sony-Ericsson D750i? It is said to support syncML, but when I try to synchornize, Kontact crashes.
[01:16] <wolfmanz> pip i'm using the flgrx driver and havent any lockups
[01:16] <Agios> pip, interesting you should say that. I know someone else who is getting lockups with the that driver on Mandriva.
[01:16] <nagyv> pip: how did you set up fglrx for ATI? I have tried to understand the forums, but coldn't. Could you please point me to your sources?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> pip, I haven't had anyprobs wxcept in W17 , but then I'm new to Enlightenment ...kde works fine with the fglrx
[01:17] <BluesKaj> E17
[01:17] <wolfmanz> nagyv use easy ubuntu to install the driver it saves you alot of work
[01:17] <pip> automatix has it now to
[01:17] <nagyv> wolfmanz: what do you mean, adept?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> are you running dapper , pip ?
[01:17] <Philip5> Hawkwind: are you there?
[01:18] <wolfmanz> nagyv no its a serperate porogram
[01:18] <wolfmanz> !easyubuntu
[01:18] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: I would use the latest fglrx from ati and opt to build dapper packages (it has alot of fixes)
[01:18] <BluesKaj> it shoiuld be in your video card config  list in systems hardware
[01:18] <pip> yeah i am,l i get almost full hardware acceleration with the stock driver
[01:18] <wolfmanz> there is the link
[01:18] <Hawkwind> Philip5: I am now
[01:19] <pip> fglrx used to not lock up my system
[01:19] <pip> but all of the sudden
[01:19] <pip> it could be a ram issue though, i think one of my chips went bad
[01:19] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: thx, but I prefer (beta) prebuilds, like wolfmanz's suggestion
[01:19] <pip> latest from ati eh? i'll give it a shot
[01:19] <wolfmanz> pip if yopu got ram issues that can make all kinds of strange stuff happen
[01:20] <pip> yeah when i run memtest it gets to about 75% and then i get all kinds of errors and my systems locks up
[01:20] <Philip5> Hawkwind: i have updated the enlightenment package to detect confict with enlightenment-data so they can't be installad and give that errormessage
[01:20] <cpk2> my wireless keeps disconnecting me even though i have an excellent signal
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: Ati doesn't release beta's for linux afaik
[01:20] <wolfmanz> pip get new ram thats something you gotta fix
[01:21] <wolfmanz> pip it also might not be ram it could also be a bad cpu and or motherboard that will make memtest fail so test your ram out
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: easyubuntu's versions of the drivers are older
[01:21] <pip> yeah my motherboard is a peice
[01:21] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: beta = use at my own risk :)
[01:22] <pip> its a gigabyte, i will never make that mistake again
[01:22] <pip> i got an amd 3200 64 bit in it though
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: But ati doesn't release beta's - and easyubuntu just uses the version from the repo
[01:22] <nagyv> wolfmanz, h3sp4wn: I have already tried to install the ATI drivers, could this lead to problems?
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: Did you not opt to build packages ?
[01:23] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: I am affraid of missing security updates
[01:23] <wolfmanz> nagyv after you install rthe driver use fglrxinfo to make sure the ati drivers are working
[01:24] <pip> its pretty easy to install them
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: So why do you want beta drivers ?
[01:24] <pip> well not the betas
[01:24] <wolfmanz> nagyv no it didnt lead to problems for me i tried manually to install them from a forum post i was reading but like you i gave up and used easy ubuntu
[01:24] <pip> i dont even know where to get those
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> I don't think there are any
[01:24] <pip> i dont think so either
[01:25] <pip> did ati get bought out by someone? or was i just dreaming that?
[01:25] <wolfmanz> nagyv after i used easy ubuntu i still had to go into the xorg.conf and edit a line in there
[01:25] <wolfmanz> pip ati is owned by AMD now
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> --buildpkg ubuntu/dapper (ati supports dapper - and has fixed the crashing on shutdown issue)
[01:25] <nagyv> wolfmanz: fglrixinfo output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19642
[01:26] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: I think I know about that craching. But is this a command?
[01:26] <wolfmanz> nagyv ya your using the mesa driver and that means the ATI isnt installed or woring
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: its the end part of the command you have to give to the ati installer
[01:27] <wolfmanz> nagyv ya your using the mesa driver and that means the ATI isnt installed or not working
[01:27] <pip> hopefully amd will provide better linux support
[01:28] <pip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:28] <pip> thats pretty much all you need to get it installed
[01:29] <noxs> good n8
[01:29] <noxs> have a nice day or night...:o)
[01:29] <noxs> bye bye
[01:29] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: pip: thx, I will try to do it.
[01:29] <Lunar_Raven> !nvidia
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:31] <pip> the wiki for ubuntu is great
[01:31] <pip> one of the main reasons i use it
[01:31] <nagyv> pip, what does this mean? "You need hardware-accelerated 3D support, or display refresh rates higher than 60 Hz."
[01:31] <pip> no other distro has worked so good for me
[01:31] <pip> nagyv: what is saying that?
[01:32] <soulrider> whats a good emule clinet i can use?
[01:32] <nagyv> the wiki page you just suggested
[01:33] <pip> oh thats just saying that you only need the drivers if you require 3d acceleration and a higher refresh rate
[01:33] <nagyv> at lspci I get back that my driver is RV350, at http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R6.7.0/doc/radeon.4.html it is written that the radeon driver supports only 2D. What is the radeon driver? it this the opensource ati?
[01:34] <pip> but if you are using dapper you probobly have 3d acceleration already, at least i do on my readion x850
[01:34] <pip> radeon
[01:34] <pip> how do you reply to a person? i've never used irc before
[01:34] <soulrider> you mean private emssage ?
[01:35] <nagyv> pip: I use konversaion. here I start typeing your nick, then press a tab
[01:35] <soulrider> rightt clickt he name adn then query
[01:35] <nagyv> pip: how could I check 3D?
[01:35] <pip> nagyv: ohhh.... right onthanks
[01:35] <pip> wait...
[01:36] <pip> well apparently i cant pm you, cuz i'm not registeres
[01:36] <pip> registered
[01:37] <pip> do your opengl screensavers work smoothly?
[01:37] <pip> does planet penguin racer work good?
[01:38] <nagyv> pip: opengl screensavers are not smooth at all
[01:39] <pip> definetly dont have it then
[01:39] <pip> what card do you have?
[01:40] <nagyv> pip: ati mobility radeon 9600
[01:40] <pip> nagyv: is this a fresh install of ubuntu?
[01:40] <pip> like not an upgrade from breezy?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> ati mobility radeon should work with acceleration with the free drivers
[01:40] <nagyv> pip: a frehc install, but dapper was still in beta
[01:41] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: as I have said, I already tried to get fglrx, so it can happen that I messed things up
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx
[01:42] <pip> nagyv: i'd do an install from the official version if i were you
[01:42] <pip> but you can do this...
[01:43] <clojster_> guys, how can I make iso from dvd or cd in KDE?
[01:43] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19643
[01:43] <pip> nagyv: actually just do the first part of that wiki page it shoudl work fine for you
[01:44] <nagyv> clojster_: I think you can do it with k3b, as saving your project in an iso file (not iso, but k3b's own extension)
[01:44] <pip> well..... i gotta go now
[01:44] <pip> i might be back
[01:44] <nagyv> pip: thx, I plan to do the same :)
[01:44] <nagyv> pip: bye
[01:45] <clojster_> nagyv: well, I need iso... there isnt any tool to do that? in gnome its just matter of one right click...
[01:47] <zappix> Anyone know of a good FTP client for Linux?
[01:48] <cpk2> like wget?
[01:48] <Agios> c/l ftp works pretty good
[01:48] <Hawkwind> zappix: gFTP or prozilla
[01:48] <Daskreech> Bear
[01:48] <zappix> THANKS
[01:49] <zappix> erm
[01:49] <zappix> Caps
[01:49] <zappix> ^^0
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Or even kbear
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Or kftpgrabber
[01:49] <Daskreech> Orrrrrrr ftp from the cli :)
[01:51] <dek> does LaTeX come in Kubuntu? or I have to download it apart?
[01:52] <zappix> Um
[01:53] <nagyv> dek: you can find it in adept
[01:53] <zappix> *** The pkg-config script could not be found. Make sure it is
[01:53] <zappix> *** in your path, or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable
[01:53] <zappix> *** to the full path to pkg-config.
[01:53] <zappix> =x
[01:53] <dek> ok
[01:53] <zappix> ALSO
[01:53] <zappix> *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
[01:53] <nagyv> clojster_: I don't really know
[01:53] <zappix> !glib
[01:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about glib - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:53] <zappix> D:
[01:53] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: I reboot now! :)
[01:54] <zappix> !pkg-config
[01:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about pkg-config - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:54] <zappix> >:/
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: did you purge the fglrx stuff first ?
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> zappix: ncftp is my favourite but there is a newer more full featured cli client I can't remember the name of
[02:02] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: no, apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: Are you trying to use fglrx or the free drivers ?
[02:03] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: hmm, I think the free drivers
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: then dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx (should list nothing) I don't know you thought rebooting would help fix that
[02:06] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: wow, the aptitude command would like to purge 47 packages! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19647
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: I usually trust aptitude to make the right decisions (but I use it all the time) if you don't want to do that you can do apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:09] <Daskreech> Night all
[02:10] <ndazza> morning all!
[02:12] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: cool! dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx gave me back nothing. So, what to do next?
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: either reboot or use control alt backspace to kill x - then run glxinfo | grep direct
[02:14] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: isn't it goog if I log off, and then restart just the X server?
[02:14] <pussfeller> enemy territory is running very very choppy, i have an nvidia
[02:14] <pussfeller> q3 works fine
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: run grep fglrx /etc/modules (there should be no output)
[02:15] <pussfeller> and the shapes get all blurry
[02:15] <LouKall> hey i was wondering if i could get some help installing Shockwave
[02:15] <pussfeller> shockwave player?
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart should also be fine
[02:15] <pussfeller> that has no linux port
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> I don't think it can be done (but may be wrong)
[02:16] <sorush20> hi guys I seem to be unable to run ark for some unknown reason..
[02:16] <sorush20> as soon as I try to run it , i see the kde crash dialogue
[02:16] <LouKall> not able to happen?
[02:16] <LouKall> dammit.
[02:17] <LouKall> some of my favorite video sites use either WMP or Shockwave
[02:17] <pussfeller> macromedia liscencened flash and cant port it, iirc
[02:17] <pussfeller> err i mean shockwave
[02:18] <LouKall> thats gay.
[02:18] <LouKall> any alternative?
[02:18] <LouKall> probably not.
[02:18] <pussfeller> web mulitmedia support is better than its ever been, but we are still the second class citizens of the net :(
[02:18] <Agios> there are flash plugins, etc. but not shockwave
[02:19] <pussfeller> supposedly adobe is working on a port of the latest flash, but then others say they are just lying
[02:19] <Hawkwind> !shockwave
[02:19] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:19] <sorush20> I more open source coding is developed then there wouldn't be problems like this .. php is a great example.. and svg.
[02:20] <sorush20> if
[02:20] <Hawkwind> sorush20: So get busy coding
[02:20] <LouKall> word.
[02:20] <Agios> somehow I don't think macromedia is going to jump on the open source band wagon any time soon.
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> php is horrible (mod_perl (or probably mod_python) is much nicer)
[02:20] <chosebine> agios:no more macromedia, adobe now
[02:21] <pussfeller> they dont pretend to like open source, but they did release a flash version
[02:21] <Agios> adobe even less so
[02:21] <chosebine> eh
[02:21] <pussfeller> and at least care enough to make a press release about another
[02:22] <LouKall> so i would have to watch the movies through, wine, and a windows version of Firefox?
[02:22] <LouKall> geh.
[02:22] <Agios> I don't doubt they will release a linux version. But not open source it.
[02:22] <Agios> LouKall: what movies? Google videos, youtube, etc. all play fine with the flash plugin.
[02:22] <LouKall> streetfire.net
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> Am I the only one who doesn't really care about flash ?
[02:22] <chosebine> h3:no
[02:22] <LouKall> probably so.
[02:23] <LouKall> oh.
[02:23] <LouKall> wait.
[02:23] <LouKall> one more follower.
[02:23] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: but until now, I did not reinstalled any drivers, just purged it
[02:24] <chosebine> maybe the future of svg will replace flash
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: The driver you need was already there (just fglrx diverted a load of stuff you need for 3d)
[02:24] <LouKall> it sucks because thats the only videos i will really watch on the internet.
[02:24] <Agios> stand by, I'm trying something with a video from that site
[02:24] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: ohh
[02:24] <LouKall> okey.
[02:25] <LouKall> and it seems when i watch videos on googlevideo, there is no sound.
[02:25] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Hello
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> RougeX: Hello
[02:26] <RogueX> Can someone help with playing DVD's?
[02:26] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Hay glad your here
[02:26] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Think you can help with DVD prob?
[02:26] <Agios> ok, never mind. That was a complete failure.
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: What is the problem ? Did you run the installscript for dvdread3 ?
[02:28] <LouKall> it sucks--nothing there.
[02:28] <sorush20> what package do I need to install to be able to debug my ubuntu.com
[02:28] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: yes but now I cant upgrade because I get a conflict with some files called libdvdcss0.0.1 and I dont see them in apet
[02:28] <sorush20> what package do I need to install to be able to debug my ark crashes..
[02:29] <camilo> a
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: What are you trying to upgrade ?
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Are you using unofficial repos ?
[02:29] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: libdvdcss2 keeps wanting to update
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[02:30] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: is that a command?
[02:30] <badkill> Anybody here know a Brasilian chat ???
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: yes
[02:30] <badkill> were ???
[02:30] <LouKall> he wasnt talking to you badkill
[02:31] <soulrider> !pt
[02:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:31] <badkill> tim new user to UBUNTU and Kubuntu System and i leaning this !!!
[02:31] <badkill> OK Tkx !
[02:31] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: it came back Installed: (none)
[02:32] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I uninstalled it tying to fix
[02:32] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: now I cant reinstall because of the other files
[02:32] <dek> !easysource
[02:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:33] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: I run this script (sudo /etc/init.d/?dm), but nothing happened. Then I have restarted the X server, but the OpenGL screensavers are still wrong.
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: glxinfo | grep direct
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Is it dpkg complaining about the files ?
[02:33] <soulrider> h3sp4wn: what was hte location of the file with the repositories addresses located?
[02:34] <soulrider> uhm, that came out quite wrong
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <soulrider> thanks!
[02:34] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19650
[02:35] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: adept manager is what I am using to install
[02:35] <soulrider> is there a way to give root access to an application once you opened it?
[02:35] <sorush20> what other decompression programs are there?
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> tar can do bzip2 and gzip
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: run sudo dpkg -C
[02:36] <ndazza> hi! my wireless pcmcia card depends on linux-restricted-modules but it hasn't been released for the new kernel updates. where can i find out when this package will be released for the new kernel images?
[02:36] <nagyv> I thought that there could be something under System Settings/Display, and actually there is. There is an error stating that the module is remained from an older version OR that there remaind a setup program from a 3rd party program
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> ndazza: edit sources.list and add restricted after dapper-security main
[02:37] <ndazza> h3sp4wn: ahh! thanks
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: Run lsmod | grep fglrx
[02:37] <cpk2> ndazza: just use modprobe?
[02:37] <cpk2> !modprobe
[02:37] <cpk2> !modprobe
[02:37] <cpk2> well the bot isnt being very helpful right now but you get the idea
[02:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:37] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: no output
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: lsmod | grep radeon
[02:37] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: same problem cant install because it would break other packages
[02:37] <Hawkwind> When was there a new kernel released ?
[02:38] <ndazza> cpk2: the module isn't installed, i needed the package itself :)
[02:38] <nagyv> h3sp4wn:
[02:38] <nagyv> $ lsmod | grep radeon
[02:38] <nagyv> radeon                116000  1
[02:38] <nagyv> drm                    73236  2 radeon
[02:38] <cpk2> ndazza: you know you dont need to recompile your kernel to get it to work right?
[02:39] <cpk2> i thought glxgears was also supposed to output a fps somewhere as well?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: I don't know why radeon is not working (usually if the kernel module is there and there are no diverts then its working)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> cpk2: glxgears --printfps
[02:39] <gnomefreak> or 1 -
[02:39] <cpk2> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: strings /usr/bin/glxgears (and it will give you the command)
[02:40] <ndazza> cpk2: yes i know that. i'm not recompiling, the problem is that the package linux-restricted-modules is dependent on which kernel image has been installed, and there have been new kernel images in the last few days. linux-restricted-modules hasn't been upgraded along with the new kernel images
[02:40] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: no luck still the same
[02:40] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: in my xorg.conf file there are several monitor, sevice and device sections. could this be a problem?
[02:40] <ndazza> cpk2: the reason, as h3sp4wn kindly pointed out, is that i didn't specify restricted packages in my security updates
[02:40] <sorush20> what package do I need to install to back trace a crash in kde?
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: try changing Driver "ati" to Driver "radeon"
[02:41] <gnomefreak> sorush20: what crashed?
[02:41] <sorush20> ark
[02:41] <sorush20> gnomefreak:
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: And maybe try restarting because I don't know what fglrx may have done to the kernel if you tried to use it
[02:41] <cpk2> hmm is averaging 1900 fps decent for a laptop?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> sorush20: try gdb ark <enter>  when you get a (gdb) type run
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> see how well it plays Quake3 or Quake4 :)
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Its a meaningless benchmark hence why the fps is not displayed by default
[02:42] <cpk2> rofl i am certain it would die playing quake4
[02:42] <RogueX> Dr_Willis: good to see your here
[02:42] <gnomefreak> sorush20: if it comes back with no executable file or file than you need to run an strace (ltrace) or another type of trace
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: What repos are you using other than the official ones ?
[02:42] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: plf?
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Just plf ?(not beer or kid or quins xgl one)
[02:44] <LouKall> anyone know how i can burn cds with k3b?
[02:44] <LouKall> its giving me an error.
[02:44] <LouKall> no permissions for device, or something.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> go on....
[02:45] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: backports?
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: can you not just do sudo aptitude purge dvd~i
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. were you asking about this earlier today LouKall ?
[02:45] <LouKall> nope.
[02:45] <Frederick> folks
[02:45] <LouKall> i wasnt on here earlier Dr_Willis
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: That wouldn't break it
[02:45] <Frederick> if adept failed to dl a package can I re-start it?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> LouKall,  you are the 2nd today then to ask that.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Im wondering if theres some bug going on.
[02:45] <dek> how do I connect/disconnect from the internet?
[02:45] <LouKall> Dr_Willis, Interesting.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> dek how are you connected?
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> Frederick: I would delete the partially downloaded file from /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:46] <LouKall> Dr_Willis, would you like for me to get specifics?
[02:46] <dek> ADSL, PPPoE
[02:46] <LouKall> Im not sure about bug reports.
[02:46] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I did that but the only thing it did now is uninstall dvd+rw-tools
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> LouKall,  just someone else was in here today asking identical thing.. not sure if he fixed it or not.
[02:46] <LouKall> hmmm
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> LouKall,  may want to check the kubuntu/ubuntu wiki/forums.
[02:46] <LouKall> okay.
[02:46] <LouKall> i'll look.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> if its due to some updates.. it shouldbe mentioned there
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: so sudo aptitude dist-upgrade fails (what is the exact error)
[02:47] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: just did no errors.. but libdvdcss2 is not installed
[02:47] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: I think it still does not work :(, but even though thx for your help
[02:48] <adam__> how do u change the clock from military time to regular?
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: looks for documents on setting up linux on your exact laptop model (or if all else fails download the latest fglrx drivers from ati and use those)
[02:48] <cpk2> has anyone upgraded kde to .4 yet?
[02:49] <cpk2> it supposedly works now without breaking things?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> adam__,  set the date format, click on the clock and look in the menus
[02:50] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: should the file libdvdcs0.0.1 not be here?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> adam__,  you may have to restart the clock program for it to take effect.
[02:50] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: according to http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R6.7.0/doc/radeon.4.html, I think that the radeon driver only does not supports 3D for my card
[02:51] <RogueX> Anyone help with Amarok?
[02:51] <nagyv> RogueX: what is your problem?
[02:51] <RogueX> nagyv: I have to select the xine engine everytime I start it
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: look at the xorg 7 release notes particularly the part about r300 experimental suppotr
[02:52] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: mine is rv350, according to lspci
[02:53] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: any other ideas?
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> nagyv: And that is one of the ones that should work (anything with more than 4 pipes won't)
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Without the full error messages from apt / aptitude / dpkg I can't help you
[02:54] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: there is no error.
[02:54] <adam__> k thanks I got it.
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: dpkg -S libdvdcs0.0.1
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: If that comes up with nothing just remove it
[02:54] <LouKall> Dr_Willis, i just had to do sudo k3b
[02:54] <adam__> it wasn't very self-explanitory though. I had to change the "Country or Region" from default to USA
[02:54] <LouKall> i dont know why, but yeaaah
[02:55] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: that came up with nothing..   How do I remove it then?
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: sudo rm /path/to/whereitis
[02:57] <Ertain> Hello everyone.
[02:57] <Ertain> I'm trying to figure out how mouse wheel turns can be recognized for button presses.  Specifically I'd like to move my mouse wheel up or down to scroll through a gallery of pictures in Kview.
[02:58] <madsp> hi , i was here sometimes ago had probs with partition and geeintng banc win all i needed was a real win install givin me the option to go dos and do a fixmbr , and start over gain. not farin buying a com without a real install cd , when promised to get win . anyway am on win now , got ubuntu on main boot partition. just im curious what makes ubuntu different from other ossises. i like ubunt just my everlasting curiousity. googled some shots of other dt
[02:59] <madsp> my typos might challenge you :P
[02:59] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: cant find... LOL  this is crazy  :)
[03:00] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: what is the command that makes apt do the check and clears out junk/
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: try /usr/lib but if you can't upgrade then apt/dpkg must give you some error
[03:01] <nagyv> RogueX: do you think to apt-get clean?
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: what was the error message from dpkg -C ?
[03:02] <acid-trip> you know how to compile and install quake2forge on kubuntu
[03:02] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: checked /usr/lib not there...     the error I get in Adept manager is cant install Conflict:libdvdcss0.0.1
[03:03] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: because I dont know better?  :)  make suggestion for better way?
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: run sudo aptitude (go into interactive aptitude)
[03:04] <acid-trip> h3sp4wn: what other repositories do i have to add(if any) to get w32codecs
[03:04] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, don't let yer knowledge make you arrogant and judgemental over those of us who are still learning :)
[03:05] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: ok running aptitude... now what?
[03:06] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Is this the better way to install packages than Adept manager???
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: control t - search find broken
[03:06] <sophie_> h3sp4wn: try apt-get (command line)
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> sophie_: aptitude install blah works on the commandline
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> sophie_: The advantage of aptitude is what is installed is logged so if you remove a package it removes its dependancies also
[03:08] <sophie_> h3sp4wn: same for apt-get
[03:08] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: doesnt come back with anything
[03:08] <rikioh> h3sp4wn: i personally use adept to search for things too :)
[03:08] <sophie_> h3sp4wn: to search I use apt-cache search foo foo2 foo3
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> rikioh: aptitude search (is powerful) just read the bit about the regular expressions
[03:09] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: ok lost... in menus where to??
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Actions install / remove packages (see what it wants to do)
[03:10] <yoshu> does anyone know how to get the development release of wine?
[03:10] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: "No pacages are scheduled to be installed, removed,or upgraded."
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: No idea then
[03:12] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: so how do I install libdvdcss2?
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> sophie_: I sometimes use apt-cache search but like the way with aptitude you can do something like aptitude search ~nsun~njava~i (to list packages that contain sun and java and are installed)
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> !info dvd
[03:13] <ubotu> Package dvd does not exist in dapper
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> ! dvd
[03:13] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Heh.
[03:14] <nagyv> is it normal to have 3 monitor, device and screen sections under xorg.conf?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> The ubuntu default xorg is a littel cluttered
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> but ive seen MUCH worse
[03:15] <sophie_> h3sp4wn: try out "apt-cache search perl mp3" it will listt relevant packages containing in description both keywords
[03:16] <nagyv> Dr_Willis: and is it safe to delete 2-2 of every triple?
[03:16] <nnn0> !mp3
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I got the error "Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.'
[03:16] <madsp> whats the dif ?
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> sophie_: But suppose I wanted to remove all the packages that fit that description that are installed (how could I do that)
[03:18] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I got the error "Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.'
[03:20] <Cornellius> RogueX: The repository is down, not your fault.
[03:20] <RogueX> Cornellius: Thank you I have been going crazy trying to fix this
[03:20] <Cornellius> RogueX: Well, is that the only repository who does that ?
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Well your plf repo (which I think that package is in) is down
[03:20] <dek> !nvidia
[03:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:21] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Thanks for all your help .. hope I didnt strech your patience to much.
[03:21] <Cornellius> RogueX: We're here to help.
[03:21] <RogueX> Cornellius: I dont know if thats the only one
[03:21] <madsp> is there a main differesece betwen ubuntu and fedora fx ? i stick to ubuntu though my cousin appreciate dora more
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: just use libdvdread3 (I think that is in multiverse) and run the script to install it
[03:22] <sophie_> h3sp4wn: To be honest I don'Tt know but apt-get accept any regexp syntaxt, so I guest using wildcards should work
[03:22] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Will try that now
[03:22] <Cornellius> madsp: Well, Ubuntu is DEBs based while Fedora is RPMs based.
[03:23] <itssmeeagainn> hello... did anyone experience severe slow-downs when inserting an usb stick and copying from it? kubuntu 6.06 :D... please. any solution would be good :D
[03:23] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I know how to install that but how do I run the script?
[03:23] <madsp> can i google those two words (sorry am novice in this and am too embarressed to ask my dear cousin) , and see the diff's
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: just look at the !dvd page
[03:24] <rikioh> wormux is fun :)
[03:24] <Cornellius> !deb
[03:24] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:24] <Cornellius> !rpm
[03:24] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:24] <Cornellius> There madsp
[03:24] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: I foun out the problem. Given that I have already installed the ati drivers, I had to uninstall its setup program. Now the free radeon driver works great.
[03:24] <nagyv> h3sp4wn: although it seems like an error what it gives at glxinfo | grep direct
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> sophie_: I know you can use apt-cache / apt-get | dpkg | grep - but I think using the regexps of aptitude is simpler
[03:25] <nagyv> and I also have a problem under Sysem Settings->Display
[03:25] <madsp> ah ok , explains redhat conflicts i had earlier , i like doubleclick lol , ty muchly
[03:26] <Cornellius> madsp: Use debs on Ubuntu and rpms on Fedora.
[03:26] <Cornellius> No vice-versa
[03:26] <madsp> i writedown on my paper
[03:26] <Cornellius> madsp: Ubuntu is a nice distro to start. I'd say it's simplier than Fedora.
[03:27] <acid-trip> doesn't anyone know how to get quake2sorceforge working on kubuntu
[03:27] <Cornellius> Because a lot of people use it, there is also a lot of users to help.
[03:27] <madsp> ok , my cousin recommended me ubuntu , couse he thought id be mosre happy with taht to start with , makes perfect sence
[03:27] <acid-trip> Cornellius: i would like to agree with u on that
[03:28] <madsp> again sorry bout typos
[03:28] <nnn0> you can convert between deb and rpm with the alien script
[03:28] <Cornellius> nnn0: As a last resort only
[03:28] <acid-trip> nnn0: but sometimes the effect isn't always the best wished for
[03:28] <nnn0> of course
[03:28] <acid-trip> i like FreeBsd
[03:29] <nnn0> :)
[03:29] <Cornellius> Or trying Gentoo.
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> Then switch to ubuntu when you get lazy
[03:29] <Cornellius> Linux From Scratch
[03:29] <nnn0> LFS heh
[03:29] <nnn0> !
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:29] <nnn0> :)
[03:29] <Cornellius> Heh
[03:30] <nnn0> ehehe the best beginner distro have to be knoppixmame or something :D
[03:31] <madsp> can i google like 'linix alinen danger' and understand why its not good ?
[03:31] <madsp> maybe alien
[03:31] <Cornellius> !alien
[03:31] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:32] <madsp> so danger in a matter of conflict ?
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> If you have something like oracle that is only available as rpm then using alien can be fine
[03:33] <h3sp4wn> most of the time it will cause you alot of problems
[03:33] <madsp> ok , sleepy now , and i repeat my childhood , why why why , ill be bsack tomorroew , and just watch the advices , think listening is a good way to learn . Good night :)
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: I would say I become arrogant / judgemental - is when I think people have not made any attempt to read the available documentation (if its bad fair enough or if people give an example of what they don't understand fine but I don't like people being what I see as just lazy) (also I am quite autistic so often I don't know why people think anything other than what I think as I can't relate to that)
[03:39] <soulrider> guys, what was the name of hte CLI text editor?
[03:40] <h3sp4wn> vim
[03:40] <soulrider> thanks
[03:40] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: If you have never used it before maybe run 'vimtutor'
[03:41] <soulrider> i did... once lol
[03:41] <madsp> hey sorry , couldnt sleep and scrolled up ----
[03:42] <madsp> ive been recommended the unix programming enviorment book , but not ssure if it right niw ist inapropriate for me to read it yet since still a nov
[03:43] <madsp> its by brian kernighan and rob pike
[03:43] <soulrider> h3sp4wn:  how can i save/quit
[03:45] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, sometimes ppl with knowledge forget how difficult it is to get thru this Linux stuff and you appear to be a bit impatient with our learning curve ...that might be a better way to express that thought :)
[03:46] <sophie_> BluesKaj: I agree with h3sp4wn I find people tend to cry for help without even trying, having kids I try to teach to try before asking
[03:47] <briebert> Question--- I had everything perfect on system, NVIDIA working, etc. on Ubuntu / Gnome - installed KDE and font options (pixel smooth, etc.) cannot be changed anymore, any ideas?
[03:47] <madsp> how do i reboot ?
[03:47] <soulrider> lol
[03:47] <sophie_> madsp: sudo reboot from the command line
[03:47] <madsp> :)
[03:47] <soulrider> sorry if i ask too much, i know i can be annoying sometimes
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Wll righty - figured out how to re-enable cups.
[03:50] <BluesKaj> sophie_, I have kids as well and trying something without much knowledge of the subject can get you into a lotta trouble in things that require precision , such as linux . :)
[03:53] <anoncon> lol how do i update kubuntu
[03:53] <anoncon> i know in ubuntu it was automatic besides password
[03:53] <dek> I installed my nVidia card drivers, and they seem to work but I cannot get to resolution over 1024x768, any ideas?
[03:54] <anoncon> did u check that the x config file was correct?
[03:54] <dek> what do you mean "correct"?
[03:54] <anoncon> should be nvidia instead of nv for the driver section i believe
[03:54] <dek> yes, I changed that
[03:55] <anoncon> did u check resolutions it had available?
[03:55] <sophie_> BluesKaj: agreed but without effort you don't learn,  I think you are supposing that linnux is more complex than windows it is not the case it is just different.  Linux does not require more precision than Windows you can screw up much more in Windows from the cmdline than linux (when you are not runninfg has root)
[03:55] <anoncon> i had this problem on another computer - never founda fix - moved onto another computer lol
[03:55] <dek> yes I 1024 down
[03:55] <dek> but I was unsure whether to edit that manually
[03:55] <anoncon> u want higher?
[03:55] <anoncon> yes u can
[03:55] <dek> I want 1280x1024
[03:56] <anoncon> u just have to know what ur monitor supports
[03:56] <dek> yes it does support that
[03:56] <anoncon> so enter it in the way u see the others
[03:56] <dek> I used it all thet ime in Windows xD
[03:56] <anoncon> k
[03:56] <dek> ok
[03:56] <dek> lets see
[03:56] <anoncon> how does one do security updates in kubuntu ?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> sophie , I have only about 5 yrs of off and on experience in Linux and every distro is different, so when I make a mistake it isn't from the lack of trying it's from the standpoint of knowing the commands before I try to do something .
[03:58] <soulrider> i dont like risking screwing things up, thats why i tend to ask, to make sure what im planning to do isnt gonna screw up my system
[03:59] <BluesKaj> i try to write stuff down , cus i know this memory won't recall it exactly whwn i need it again
[03:59] <soulrider> i do that
[03:59] <madsp> good night ,  even watching intelligent conv, cant keep me awake . hber det er ok jeg blir p serveren / i rummet . good night
[03:59] <soulrider> bye madsp
[04:00] <sophie_> BluesKaj: I agree with you on the matter but when I get questions vague has:  How do I install XGL? instead of how do I congifure gdm to use XGL?   you figure that the subject did not even read on it
[04:00] <BluesKaj> hej do
[04:00] <madsp> good night soulrider :)
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok  sophie, point taken
[04:01] <Dasnipa`> what is the konsole command to open up openoffice?
[04:01] <anoncon> openoffice? lol
[04:01] <[-Ghost-] > good evening folks
[04:01] <Dasnipa`> anoncon, not right
[04:01] <zappix> Anyone here good with VMWare?
[04:01] <anoncon> it works for me
[04:01] <zappix> Nobody that is, is active in #vmware
[04:01] <zappix> T_T
[04:02] <anoncon> u must not have it installed
[04:02] <[-Ghost-] > this the right place for long time windows users who don't know diddly about command lines? *ducks*
[04:02] <anoncon> openoffice in the console works for me
[04:02] <soulrider> works for me too
[04:02] <soulrider> dont ou have a kmenu ?
[04:03] <soulrider> dont you*
[04:03] <anoncon> ya something is wrong with ur setup - i bet u dont have it installed......doh
[04:03] <Dasnipa`> it was before i upgraded to dapper
[04:03] <anoncon> upgraded from what?
[04:03] <zappix> /lib/vmware/bin/vmplayer: /lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[04:03] <zappix> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:03] <zappix> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:03] <zappix> o_O
[04:04] <Dasnipa`> anoncon, breezy
[04:04] <sophie_> BluesKaj: sorry I did not  want to start an argument but I agree with you that some people need more help I see it with my sons that have barely a yeat different
[04:04] <anoncon> not sure what that did but maybe try reinstall openoffice?
[04:04] <Dasnipa`> thats what im doing
[04:04] <Dasnipa`> its removing an old package and adding this new one
[04:05] <Dasnipa`> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[04:05] <Dasnipa`>   openoffice.org-debian-files openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us
[04:05] <[-Ghost-] > reading thru the above links for common questions, but generally......should i have much trouble accessing my fat32 media folders now that i'm booted into Kubuntu?
[04:05] <sotired> ello
[04:06] <[-Ghost-] > last time i tried i made kubuntu unbootable for some reason, so formatted and am tryin again
[04:06] <sotired> ive been using kubuntu on my desktop for a while and i love, so now i am trying to install to my old inspiron laptop, however when i try to boot the cd i get to the options menu and then a box comes up and says i/o error no matter what option i chose
[04:06] <sotired> :(
[04:07] <pip> could be a bad burn
[04:07] <sophie_> sotired: look into disabling acpi when booting from cd
[04:07] <sotired> i dont get that far
[04:07] <sotired> i think it might be a bad burn i had this prob a while ago on the desktop
[04:07] <sotired> i burned using k3b...any suggestions?
[04:07] <sophie_> sotired: its a kernel option when booting
[04:08] <anoncon> ya burn @ 2x instead of max
[04:08] <sotired> ill try it
[04:08] <sotired> its actually xubuntu..but same difference
[04:08] <BluesKaj> sophie_, Ive read some of the ind=structional pages and site related installing and configuring programs and the attitude by the authors is dometimes presumptuous and that can be discouraging to newbies , so they would sooner enter a chat and ask for instructions in an environment that has some feedback . At least that's been my experience
[04:09] <BluesKaj> scuse my speling
[04:09] <sotired> u folks think it will run well on a p3 700mhz w/ 256 ram?
[04:10] <sotired> my burner wont burn at 2x...im trying 8x
[04:10] <Drano_> hey guys, are there any places to find extra amarok visualization plugins?
[04:10] <sophie_> sotired: it will run but turn off the visuals in kde
[04:11] <sotired> im using xubuntu..so i think it uses xfce
[04:11] <Drano_> from what i understand amarok uses xmms plugs, correct?
[04:11] <sotired> or something less intensive
[04:11] <sophie_> sotired: xfce tuns on my 133 mhz so 700 will be finr
[04:12] <sotired> sophie_:cool, thanks
[04:12] <sotired> wow a 133
[04:12] <sotired> awesome
[04:12] <sotired> i love old machines...they just dont die
[04:12] <sotired> like old buicks
[04:13] <sophie_> sotired: be carefull it runs but it is not enjoyable, firefox sucks on it.
[04:13] <sophie_> sotired: I think on a 700 firefox should run fine
[04:14] <GreySim> I run Firefox on a 700 all the time. It's my main computer. >.>'
[04:14] <BluesKaj> sotired, I have an old 233MMX , maybe I should load it up , but it's max Ram is 128 :(
[04:15] <sophie_> BluesKaj: load up kde or xfce
[04:15] <zappix> Anyone here
[04:15] <sotired> yeh..i just got this laptop as a hand me down for school...it had the worst virus on it...i think its called "windows me" ;-)
[04:15] <zappix> Anyone here know how to use VMWare?
[04:15] <zappix> ><;
[04:16] <sotired> but i figured it will be mediocre at best with win2k on it, so linux all the way
[04:16] <BluesKaj> I'm daul booting with windows on this pc and it's kinda nice to have a faster machine now ...ran the 233 for 2 yrs and it was slooowwww.
[04:16] <GreySim> Man, as a Gnome user, just trying to use KDE for the night to get a feel for it, I have to say, it looks like you all attracted the better artists. *drools over KDE-Look submissions*
[04:16] <soulrider> !ntfs > dek
[04:17] <soulrider> !ntfs
[04:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:17] <sotired> grey: i agree 10000%
[04:18] <GreySim> Is there a good channel for complete and total KDE n00bs, or is this probably an okay place to ask a bunch of little basic questions?
[04:18] <sotired> anyone see the ubuntu billboard that was posted on digg and del.icio.us? sweetness
[04:18] <sotired> i hiope they put one in my town
[04:19] <GreySim> I hope they put one in my town too, given that I'm right by MS HQ. :P
[04:19] <sotired> ha
[04:19] <soulrider> !easysource
[04:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:19] <sotired> you should pass out cds in redmond
[04:20] <soulrider> has anyone tried out this driver? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[04:21] <sotired> ok..my slow ass cd burn is done...im going to boot up that laptop and see what happens
[04:21] <jb55> !svn
[04:21] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[04:21] <Martijn81> is a short artifact in the sound when loading a webpage a known 3.5.4 bug (music in amarok or video in kaffeine)?
[04:22] <GreySim> Eeep. It seems that I froze Konquerer by right-clicking on a .tar archive. And Kopete appears to have died too. o.O
[04:22] <sotired> success!!!!!!!!! thanks everyone!
[04:24] <soulrider> GreySim:  what happened to me
[04:24] <soulrider> close kopete adn everything will come abck to normal
[04:24] <GreySim> Weird. Killing Kopete made Konquerer un-freeze. o.O
[04:24] <GreySim> Yeah.
[04:24] <sotired> it seems to me that kopete is a memory hog, it might just be me tho
[04:24] <sotired> i prefer gaim
[04:25] <GreySim> Even as a Gnome user I can only barely tolerate Gaim. :(
[04:25] <soulrider> i dont like gaim much
[04:26] <Chani> kopete has gotten kinda big... heh
[04:26] <GreySim> Is there another KDE IM client?
[04:26] <sotired> it ugly...but i feel like kopete is slowing me down
[04:26] <sotired> is it just me? or is it a hog?
[04:26] <Chani> I dunno. there have been times when it was being really sluggish, but other times it's fine. lately it's been good
[04:26] <adam__> I get this error when trying to install w32codecs:
[04:26] <adam__> adam@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:26] <adam__> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[04:26] <adam__>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:26] <adam__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:26] <adam__>  w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:26] <sotired> why is my xubntu cd starting gnome?
[04:27] <Chani> there was a bug a few months ago where it would take 10-15 seconds to do *anything*.
[04:27] <adam__> i'm following instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[04:28] <sotired> isnt xubuntu supposed to use xfce and not gnome?
[04:28] <[-Ghost-] > i like kopete, can't get my webcam workin in it yet tho, i suppose i have to manually enable it like everything else....so much for "out of the box", lol
[04:28] <GreySim> sotired: Yeah. :|
[04:29] <sotired> oh it is xfce...but when it was booting it said starting gnome
[04:29] <adam__> help plz?
[04:30] <Bonez56> ?
[04:30] <GreySim> Is Karamba pretty memory-intensive, or do you think it would be fine under 256? Or 384, if I pop the sucker open real quick...
[04:30] <soulrider> !flash
[04:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <farous> sotired: xfce is based on gtk applications so uses a lot of gnome stuff
[04:31] <Martijn81> lol, right clicking a file on desktop gives me the lipstik menu measurements, right clicking the desktop without a files give the the lipstik measurements (as set)
[04:31] <adam__> ya i'm following the istructions there but they arn't working
[04:31] <sotired> my resolution is effing huge and it wont let me change it....i think this lt has an old ati card...maybe it will fix itself once i install?
[04:33] <adam__> ubotu, the instructions for w32codecs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats arn't working 4 me
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about the instructions for w32codecs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats arn't working 4 me - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:33] <adam__> ok
[04:34] <farous> adam__: ubotu is a boot
[04:34] <adam__> i sort of just realized that
[04:34] <farous> :)
[04:34] <adam__> so any can any humans help?
[04:34] <sotired> of course...ubuntu is for humans
[04:35] <sotired> sorry i had too
[04:35] <adam__> lol
[04:35] <farous> adam__: what was the prob
[04:35] <Martijn81> adam__: looks like you made a typo. Normally you'd get such a response
[04:35] <farous> you couldn't download the package
[04:36] <adam__> it downloads fine but doesn't work when I type this line: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:36] <[-Ghost-] > thanks muchly, whoever posted in the topic, wrote or contributed to the article on mounting non-unix partitions, i just got my feet wet with konsole and am a happy camper
[04:36] <Cornellius> !factoids
[04:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about factoids - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:36] <Martijn81> adam__: try typing sudo dpkg -i w32c and then hit tab
[04:36] <Cornellius> !factoid
[04:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:36] <farous> adam__: use tab completion as been suggested earlier might be a typo
[04:37] <farous> adam__: so sudo dpkg -i w32 then press tab bottom
[04:37] <farous> botton lol
[04:37] <Martijn81> kinky :p
[04:38] <adam__> looks like it's working........
[04:38] <soulrider> err, whats the command to unmount a mounted partition ?
[04:38] <Martijn81> adam__: you have to be in the right directory for type completion to work though
[04:38] <sotired> umount
[04:38] <Martijn81> ok
[04:38] <soulrider> ah
[04:38] <soulrider> i thought it was unmount :P
[04:38] <sotired> you would think
[04:41] <[-Ghost-] > is there a specific channel for Kopete where i should direct my webcam questions? or is my problem likely not kopete-specific and more related to me not knowing how to turn my darn camera on under Kubuntu?
[04:41] <sotired> hey, while im here, anybody have anysuggestions as to what wireless pc-card i should buy for max linux compatability (doesnt have to support 802.11g)
[04:42] <[-Ghost-] > i'll say one thing for linux, so far it's very humbling....i've been doing pc tech support for years with windoze. lol
[04:42] <sotired> ghost- so have i..you will get used to it
[04:42] <adam__> ok thanks guys. I think it worked
[04:43] <Martijn81> sotired: i guess-> http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=faq#which_is_the_best_card_to_buy
[04:44] <farous> [-Ghost-] : there is a program camorama you can use it to see if your webcam is working
[04:44] <sotired> thanks
[04:44] <[-Ghost-] > ah, so my camera should already be installed and working under kubuntu by default, and i just might have a non-compatible one for linux?
[04:45] <sotired> martijn81: so these will all work with no hassle config?
[04:45] <sotired> no ndiswrapper
[04:45] <Martijn81> sotired: can't say, i don't do wireless
[04:46] <farous> !cam
[04:46] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:46] <[-Ghost-] > thanks kindly, got me some readin to do.....mmmmm, knowledge
[04:46] <Martijn81> sotired: but for what i read it's supported with the Atheros chipset
[04:47] <farous> [-Ghost-] : mine just worked out of the box i still recommend to use thea camorama package to see if yours have the proper driver
[04:48] <farous> it is usually under /dev/video0 or /dev/video1
[04:48] <[-Ghost-] > i have an intel pocket pro pc cam
[04:48] <[-Ghost-] > they're not known for good driver support
[04:48] <Martijn81> sotired: the ralink give a hit on wiki, maybe that help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ralink&titlesearch=Titels
[04:48] <sotired> thanks
[04:48] <Bonez> hi, i've just installed kubuntu-desktop (i'm normally a gnome user) where is the option to enable VNC server so I can remotely control KDE?
[04:49] <sotired> im reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:49] <farous> [-Ghost-] : good luck the n :)
[04:49] <sotired> seems helpful
[04:49] <[-Ghost-] > thanks for the tips farous :)
[04:51] <[-Ghost-] > hmm, seems i already have the drivers installed
[04:51] <[-Ghost-] > under the libgphoto2 package
[04:51] <zappix> Haha
[04:51] <zappix> I just realized something
[04:51] <zappix> Konquerer can be used as an FTP client
[04:51] <zappix> just be all
[04:52] <zappix> ftp:\lalalalalalalalalalalacookiellamas.domain
[04:52] <zappix> and enter your username and password
[04:52] <[-Ghost-] > really? cool i was gonna try swiftfox instead of Knoqueror, but it seems like Konqueror is a bit multi-talented, too useful to switch from
[04:52] <dek> where can i get repositories?
[04:53] <serfdomer> what command will show all the open ports?
[04:53] <zappix> Try your nose?
[04:53] <zappix> :P
[04:53] <petey> hello
[04:53] <dek> :P
[04:53] <zappix> Serfdomer: What?
[04:53] <serfdomer> hey petey
[04:53] <petey> kubuntu is awesome
[04:53] <anoncon> ya how do u get the right repositores for kubuntu?
[04:53] <serfdomer> right, i need to know what command shows all open ports
[04:53] <anoncon> i only see fore ubuntu
[04:53] <serfdomer> universe
[04:54] <zappix> on your router?
[04:54] <zappix> or..........
[04:54] <farous> anoncon: i normally use netstat tup
[04:54] <zappix> alright
[04:54] <farous> anoncon: you have to read more about netstat do not know the exact switches you need
[04:54] <zappix> I gotta go
[04:54] <zappix> seeya
[04:55] <anoncon> lol i wasnt askin about ports
[04:55] <anoncon> i was asking about adding repositores for updates and more apps
[04:55] <serfdomer> anoncon: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <farous> oh that was for serfdomer sorry
[04:55] <serfdomer> uncomment the universe
[04:56] <farous> !easysource > anoncon
[04:56] <serfdomer> tried netstat..
[04:56] <anoncon> that's cool thanks
[04:56] <farous> serfdomer: there are couple of package you can check at help.ubuntu.com such as ethreal
[04:56] <farous> pick and choose
[04:57] <serfdomer> THANKS!
[04:57] <farous> ur w :)
[04:57] <serfdomer> exit
[04:58] <soulrider> !easysource > dek
[05:12] <Leeif> is there a cvs repository for ubuntu?
[05:14] <farous> Leeif: there is a repos for the next release
[05:15] <farous> but what do you mean by cvs for ubuntu
[05:16] <Leeif> farous: well i need the cvs version of gnome-terminal and vte. im just looking for an easy way to install them.
[05:16] <farous> Leeif: ah ask in ubuntu room then :)
[05:16] <Leeif> ok
[05:17] <Leeif> people dont answer there
[05:17] <Leeif> :p
[05:17] <Leeif> thats why im here
[05:17] <[Relic] > anyway of quickly merging text files?  I know in win I can copy everything into one file, not sure if that is possible with this   :)
[05:17] <farous> Leeif: you have to wait for the specific developer or perhas they do not know
[05:18] <Leeif> farous: yes. in gnome everything just works :)
[05:18] <farous> cli > [Relic] 
[05:19] <farous> [Relic] : easy way is use pipes such as file1 >> file2 will append 1 to 2
[05:19] <farous> Leeif: agree :)
[05:20] <[Relic] > wildcards work?  say I have joe.map bob.map fred.map   I can use  *.map > all.map   ?
[05:21] <farous> i would use cat for that and it is double arrows
[05:22] <farous> linux is known for the ease you can do that stuff relic
[05:22] <[Relic] > just trying to figure out this game design and I am not 100% sure of the way a few things work  :)
[05:27] <zappix> NOOOOOOOOOO
[05:27] <zappix> Gah DAMNIT
[05:27] <zappix> 30 minute long upload
[05:27] <zappix> was just about finished
[05:27] <zappix> and it DIED
[05:28] <[Relic] > now it will be an hour upload?
[05:28] <soulrider> has anyopne tried the ntfs-3g driver? I installed it and mounted hte partitions. I can access them thorugh /media/ but if in conqueror i got to media:/ and click on one of them i get an access denied error
[05:28] <soulrider> any ideas?
[05:31] <treyy> is there a way to request unbanning from an irc channel
[05:32] <soulrider> who got anned? :/
[05:32] <soulrider> banned*
[05:33] <treyy> i was banned about a year ago from #ubuntu
[05:33] <soulrider> :O
[05:34] <treyy> i honestly can't remember why
[05:34] <Hobbsee> treyy: yes.  what'd you get banned for, and are you about to do it again?
[05:34] <treyy> i don't remember. it might've been flooding while trying to copy and paste a log file when trying to get help
[05:35] <Hobbsee> treyy: try connecting now?
[05:35] <timthelion> you get banned so often you don't remember?
[05:36] <treyy> yeah, that's definitely it.
[05:36] <treyy> hobbsee, thank you very much
[05:36] <Hobbsee> treyy: er, um?
[05:36] <treyy> sorry, that was directed towards timthelion
[05:38] <treyy> hm
[05:40] <treyy> no idea why it'd do that?
[05:45] <treyy> is there a way i could talk to an admin from #ubuntu
[05:45] <CVirus> admin ?
[05:45] <CVirus> you mean a Ubuntu developer ?
[05:45] <treyy> op, i'm sorry
[05:46] <Cornellius> #ubuntu-ops
[05:46] <CVirus> no idea about that
[05:46] <treyy> cornellius, thanks
[05:53] <apeman2020> hello everyone
[06:04] <soulrider> hi
[06:07] <apeman2020> why does kubuntu log me in as root automatically?
[06:08] <Martijn81> apeman2020: it doesn't
[06:09] <Snook> hello
[06:09] <apeman2020> Martijn81:curious, mine is doing it all the time
[06:09] <apeman2020> Martijn81: on startup, right to root..
[06:10] <Snook> Why does koffice only copy text when using ctrl-c, paste. Instead of copying everything as in Word?
[06:10] <Martijn81> apeman2020: then you have set it somewhere i guess, normally with a desktop installation you have your own account with sudo access
[06:11] <apeman2020> right
[06:11] <apeman2020> Martijn81: normally that is the case, but with this build something is off..
[06:11] <apeman2020> Martijn81: ill take your advice!@
[06:12] <Snook> Why does koffice only copy text when using ctrl-c, paste. Instead of copying everything as in Word?
[06:13] <luisillo> hello anyone familiarized with Wine? installed with Adept but cant find it in k menu
[06:13] <Martijn81> snook: i don't follow, both the copy/paste and ctrl+c/ctrl+v do work here
[06:16] <Snook> Martijn81: I needed to copy a paypal receipt. In Mozila I selected entire page, then I went to koffice doc and pasted, only text pasted.
[06:16] <Martijn81> luisillo: wine should work automaticly when opening an *.exe file
[06:16] <Snook> Martijn81: whe I did that in word, it copied graphics also.
[06:19] <Martijn81> snook: i see, dunno about that sorry
[06:20] <Snook> thanks
[06:22] <CVirus> how can I switch between konqueror tabs ?
[06:24] <abattoir> CVirus: Ctrl+. and Ctrl+,
[06:24] <abattoir> CVirus: you can of course change it Settings->Configure Shortcuts
[06:26] <CVirus> thanks
[06:27] <soulrider> i just mounted 2 ntfs partitions
[06:27] <soulrider> i can go to /media/ and i see thema dn can access them
[06:27] <soulrider> but in konqueror in media:/ i dont see them
[06:27] <soulrider> any ideas of whats happening?
[06:27] <ubuntu> kubuntu didnt install grub on my /dev/sda how should i do it manually?
[06:28] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: did you choose XFS for your root file system(/) ?
[06:28] <hawhatwhat> it didnt let me choose anything
[06:28] <abattoir> soulrider: 3.5.4 ?
[06:29] <soulrider> yea
[06:29] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: you used the live cd installer?
[06:29] <hawhatwhat> yes
[06:29] <abattoir> soulrider: i heard something about a bug... not 100% sure though...
[06:29] <soulrider> :O
[06:29] <soulrider> ok
[06:29] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: you should have got a dialog asking for the filesystem type for your partitions
[06:29] <hawhatwhat> oooh
[06:29] <hawhatwhat> no i used ext3
[06:29] <hawhatwhat> for my root fs
[06:30] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: hmmm... so any errors you got? about the Installer crashing?
[06:30] <hawhatwhat> i did get some
[06:30] <hawhatwhat> but it continued
[06:30] <kubuntutaotao> where was the kde 3.5.4 downloaded?
[06:30] <hawhatwhat> partitioned and installed
[06:31] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: could you pastebin the /var/log/installer syslog?
[06:31] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:31] <hawhatwhat> sure
[06:31] <abattoir> kubuntutaotao: you want the link for the downloads... right?
[06:31] <soulrider> kubuntutaotao: i got ti fromt he repositores
[06:31] <soulrider> repositories*
[06:31] <kubuntutaotao> abattoir: yeah
[06:32] <kubuntutaotao> soulrider: what the sources was?
[06:32] <soulrider> let me get ti for you
[06:32] <abattoir> kubuntutaotao: 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse'
[06:32] <soulrider> yea
[06:32] <abattoir> kubuntutaotao: assuming you are on dapper... :)
[06:32] <soulrider> i used the Kde one though
[06:32] <soulrider> that has allt he KDE apps
[06:33] <kubuntutaotao> abattoir: yaah,i am working on dapper
[06:33] <hawhatwhat> ok i pastebin'd it
[06:33] <kubuntutaotao> abattoir: thanks
[06:33] <abattoir> kubuntutaotao: yup, the link is good then :)
[06:33] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: link?
[06:33] <kubuntutaotao> abattoir: :)
[06:33] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: nvm
[06:33] <hawhatwhat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19662
[06:34] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: are you sure that is the right file?
[06:34] <abattoir>  /var/log/installer/syslog?
[06:34] <hawhatwhat> im not booted into the sy stem cuz it didnt install grub
[06:35] <hawhatwhat> im on the livecd right now
[06:35] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: aah, i want the file from the session which failed...
[06:35] <kubuntutaotao> abattoir: had the bugs in kde 3.5.4?
[06:35] <hawhatwhat> i tried mounting the partition i installed it on and it wont mount
[06:36] <abattoir> hawhatwhat:any specific errors?
[06:36] <hawhatwhat> ill reinstall it
[06:36] <hawhatwhat> and post error
[06:36] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: ok :)
[06:37] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: make sure you connect here when the installation is going on... we might need to see other files too...
[06:37] <hawhatwhat> this is what it says
[06:37] <hawhatwhat> when i fire it up
[06:37] <hawhatwhat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19663
[06:37] <hawhatwhat> thats same error as before there was no errors when it was installing
[06:37] <hawhatwhat> cant i just install grub manually now?
[06:38] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: yes, the installer has crashed.. grub may not be installed due to various reasons... hence we must see why... if you want you can try reinstalling grub...
[06:38] <abattoir> !grub
[06:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <hawhatwhat> alright ill try that thanks
[06:39] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: wait, that doesnt have much info...
[06:41] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: hmm.. ok, can you try reinstallation :P ?
[06:41] <hawhatwhat> no
[06:41] <hawhatwhat> should i?
[06:41] <hawhatwhat> i have windows on this drive to on another partition
[06:42] <hawhatwhat> so i want to keep that intact and dual boot
[06:42] <hawhatwhat> reinstalling now
[06:42] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: i dont think that'd be touched unless you choose to format that partition
[06:42] <hawhatwhat> does ubuntu not give u a root?
[06:42] <abattoir> make sure you have that partition 'unchecked' when you come to the partitioning dialog...
[06:42] <hawhatwhat> root user?
[06:42] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: you can become root by 'sudo'
[06:43] <hawhatwhat> and roots passwd is?
[06:43] <abattoir> you havent installed it yet? then the default user should have root privs.
[06:43] <hawhatwhat> its reinstalling now
[06:44] <capricorn_tm> Hi there^_^
[06:45] <soulrider> hi capricorn_tm
[06:45] <capricorn_tm> I have a quick question, about the new KDE. what happens if I use the repository of Dapper for my breezy? It does not seem to be a Breezy package of 3.5.4 for breezy
[06:46] <Hobbsee> capricorn_tm: it'll die horribly.
[06:47] <gregory> Opening any video in Kaffeine gives me just audio. The screen is black. (totem-xine and mplayer both crash on startup.) My processor is AMD and video ard nVidia, if that helps.
[06:47] <capricorn_tm> That bad uh?
[06:47] <gregory> *card
[06:47] <gregory> Err, I also have every codec I can think of installed, and to do that I used automatix.
[06:48] <abattoir> gregory: amd64 ?
[06:48] <soulrider> a KDE splash screen is the thingy that appears when its loading right?
[06:48] <abattoir> soulrider: yup
[06:48] <soulrider> ok
[06:48] <soulrider> and  if i change it, will ti change the login screen too ?
[06:48] <gregory> The proc is amd64, but I'm using the 32-bit kubuntu build
[06:48] <abattoir> soulrider: nope it wont...
[06:49] <soulrider> ok, thanks!
[06:49] <abattoir> gregory: what type of files? also could you check /usr/lib/win32 to check if the codecs are already present?
[06:49] <abattoir> *actually present
[06:50] <Kr4t05> What's the compression rate for .tar.gz?
[06:50] <gregory> they appear to be present. I've tried mpgs, wmvs, and a DVD, all giving the same result.
[06:50] <abattoir> Kr4t05: i think that'd depend on the type of file...
[06:51] <abattoir> Kr4t05: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_(file_format) might shed some info :P
[06:51] <hawhatwhat> ok abattoir it says installion complete reboot it told me this before but when it booted it loaded windwos and not grub
[06:52] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: it gives no errors?
[06:52] <hawhatwhat> nope
[06:52] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: what about /var/log/installer/syslog?
[06:52] <wolfmanz> abattoir do you have any idea why when i load up XMMS there is two process's running and between them they eat up about 70 megs of ram?
[06:52] <hawhatwhat> 1 sec
[06:52] <abattoir> wolfmanz: no idea, i use amarok :)
[06:53] <abattoir> gregory: did you try mplayer?
[06:53] <gregory> mplayer crashes as soon at i try to open a video with it
[06:53] <gregory> As does totem
[06:54] <abattoir> gregory: something is wrong w/ the codecs then?
[06:54] <hawhatwhat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19665
[06:54] <gregory> If that were the case, would I even get audio?
[06:55] <farous> hawhatwhat: did you install grub to the master boot record or eslewhere
[06:55] <hawhatwhat> it didnt ask me
[06:55] <hawhatwhat> it did it all on its own
[06:55] <gregory> For what it's worth, MP3s play just fine in any player.
[06:55] <soulrider> !karamba
[06:55] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:55] <farous> hawhatwhat: ok
[06:55] <hawhatwhat> i wish i had more involvment in the install
[06:56] <farous> hawhatwhat: normally it install to the mbr which should not give you probs. unless you have some sort of protection for it in your bios
[06:56] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: installation is not being completed properly from what i see... are you trying to install on the same partition w/o formatting it?
[06:57] <hawhatwhat> no it did format it
[06:57] <hawhatwhat> it was checked
[06:57] <kakalto> is kde 3.5.4 fine under dapper?
[06:57] <gregory> Could it be related to the fact that I'm using nv as my display driver?
[06:58] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: the installer crashes many times in the beinning... for some reason...
[06:59] <hawhatwhat> do i have to set the ext3 to active?
[06:59] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: you mean flag it as bootable?
[06:59] <hawhatwhat> well it says set to active
[06:59] <hawhatwhat> i have my windows partition set to active and not the root
[06:59] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: you could try the alternate installer if the desktop installer causes problems consistently
[07:00] <gregory> installed nvidia-glx. BRB, testing.
[07:00] <hawhatwhat> will it normally give me grub options?
[07:00] <hawhatwhat> if i manualyl configure partitions do i have to manually format them to?
[07:01] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: you'd have to make sure the 'Format' option is checked in the last screen before installation
[07:01] <hawhatwhat> yea it aint working i dunno maybe i should go back to slackware i guess
[07:02] <hawhatwhat> kubuntu looks good but it leaves you out of alot of the nesc. options
[07:02] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: if you are comfortable w/ the command line, you can use the text-based alternate installer...
[07:02] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: should give you more 'control'
[07:02] <hawhatwhat> im using the gui installer
[07:02] <intelikey> the installer on the live cd is a bad joke.  and i haven't seen anyone laughing about it.
[07:03] <digibre4k> hi...i need u're help...give me an idea...what kind of title about linux 4 my script...
[07:03] <farous> intelikey: no one is laughing for it is just bad not a joke :)
[07:03] <intelikey> farous ah that explains it.   i though i missed the punch line....
[07:04] <hawhatwhat> is ther ealot of problems when u try to isntall on a sata drive or what?
[07:04] <intelikey> :)
[07:04] <farous> :)
[07:04] <Kr4t05> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell <-- That should be in ubotu. :P
[07:05] <intelikey> i wonder why xorg can't access my mouse when i boot the 2.4 kernel ?    very sterange...
[07:06] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/ you can try the alternate installer if you want
[07:06] <hawhatwhat> well if its not working here i dont really wanna mess arou nd with it anymore i guess i wanted to just check it out since everyones talking about it
[07:06] <hawhatwhat> i dunno a distro that does everything for you doesnt make alot of sense to me i guess
[07:06] <intelikey> yeah root is only for the very brave or the very stupid     no ?
[07:07] <dek> Linux doesn't recognize one of my NTFS paritions (I can see it from Windows). Any ideas?
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[07:08] <hawhatwhat> dek is it mounted
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it safe to upgrade KDE to .4 now?
[07:08] <dek> that's what I want to know
[07:08] <dek> it should be, all others are
[07:08] <intelikey> hawhatwhat ubuntu is just another linux distro.  if you like linux you'll find things you like about *buntu  if you don't like linux then   well  you wont.
[07:08] <hawhatwhat> uhh? check it
[07:08] <dek> how?
[07:09] <hawhatwhat> intelikey it has nothing to do with liking linux
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey ratched jawed geek!
[07:09] <hawhatwhat> if i wanted a fully automated install i would use windows
[07:09] <hawhatwhat> this is giving me zero options to configure anything
[07:10] <dek> how do I check if my partition that doesn't appear is mounted?
[07:10] <hawhatwhat> dek what drive is it?
[07:10] <hawhatwhat> mount it manually
[07:10] <dek> drive E: in windows
[07:10] <intelikey> hawhatwhat sure it does.     i hate the installer on the live cd   with a purple pasion.   but when you get past the 'automation' and boot the thing and start configuring it to your liking     it's just linux.
[07:10] <hawhatwhat> mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/putithere
[07:10] <dek> ok let me try
[07:11] <hawhatwhat> see people like dek make it kinda lame
[07:11] <hawhatwhat> he obviously knows nothing about linux
[07:11] <hawhatwhat> and this automated version gives no options for grub is it supposed to?
[07:11] <farous> dek: mount is for root easier way try pmount as regular user
[07:11] <dek> of course, I installed linux today for first time xD
[07:11] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[07:11] <intelikey> that can be said for 85% of the people that use *buntu hawhatwhat
[07:11] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: come on, i gave you the link for the alternate installer, if you are comfortable w/ that please use it :)
[07:12] <hawhatwhat> intelikey well thats pretty lame you learn nothing from a point and click install
[07:12] <hawhatwhat> abattoir: im just interested in knowing why your not given grub options to setup dual booting during the gui install
[07:12] <hawhatwhat> and if grub doesnt install wtf good is the gui installer?
[07:12] <Pablo> what does it mean when I am trying to compile madwifi and I get enable wireless extensitions
[07:12] <intelikey> farous prolly a low estimate.  but i was trying to be nice.
[07:13] <abattoir> hawhatwhat: the live cd installer is under constant development, and in a way is target at people who are new to linux, dont know what GRUB is...
[07:13] <hawhatwhat> ubuntu is looking more an more like an AOL of linux distros to me
[07:13] <moparisthebest> does anyone know what this error means: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[07:13] <hawhatwhat> its pretty horrible to say the least
[07:14] <moparisthebest> hawhatwhat, then fix it or use another one ;)
[07:14] <hawhatwhat> well its been great my 1st and only experience with ubuntu i know now not to bother with it again
[07:14] <intelikey> hawhatwhat while i agree with your opinion of the distro.  this is not the place for it.   stop trolling.
[07:14] <hawhatwhat> ya
[07:14] <hawhatwhat> take it easy everyohne
[07:15] <intelikey> moparisthebest nvidia ?
[07:15] <moparisthebest> yes intelikey
[07:16] <intelikey> means you don't have glx   i'd guess.
[07:16] <moparisthebest> I already installed the driver and ran the command to enable it, and restarted
[07:16] <intelikey> did you follow the wiki on nvidia ?
[07:16] <moparisthebest> ill look
[07:16] <moparisthebest> no, ill look at that too
[07:16] <intelikey> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:16] <moparisthebest> strange thing is it worked before :/
[07:17] <intelikey> yeah.   ;/
[07:17] <MilhousePunkRock> moparisthebest: You need to change your part message, this is a family friendly channel...
[07:18] <moparisthebest> MilhousePunkRock, i didnt even know I had one, ill look at it :/
[07:18] <Chani> nvidia + xorg7.1 = pain, i thought...
[07:18] <kakalto> uhm
[07:19] <kakalto> xorg7.1 broke compatibility with the binary drivers.
[07:19] <moparisthebest> oops, i did, done ;)
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> moparisthebest: No big deal, I noticed it a few times when you left, obviously there is no chance of telling you when you are not there anymore...
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Hey!
[07:20] <moparisthebest> yea MilhousePunkRock , thats hard to do :P
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Is someone else having problems to add Riddell's key for KDE 3.5.4?
[07:21] <Chani> now I can't eember why I'm here
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Can you help with with adding the gpg-key for 3.5.4?
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Nevermind, was a typo... :-o
[07:25] <gregory> I think i was half-right. It was apparently a driver issue, but installing nvidia-glx didn't help. It took some tinkering I don't entirely understand, but I have video! :)
[07:25] <soulrider> does anyone knwo of a good app to synch a USB drive witha  folder?
[07:25] <soulrider> or just synch 2 folders
[07:29] <intelikey> i wonder why xorg can't access my mouse when i boot the 2.4 kernel ?    xorg works with the 2.6  and gpm works with both.    xorg is pointed at /dev/psaux just like gpm is... and both are set to ps/2        any thoughts ?
[07:30] <kakalto> intelikey: you think that issue has something to do with udev?
[07:31] <intelikey> no chance kakalto
[07:31] <kakalto> no?
[07:31] <intelikey> i don['t use udev.
[07:31] <kakalto> eh? it's default in all kernels since.... 2.6.13 or something?
[07:31] <Hawkwind> udev is not default in the kernel
[07:31] <kakalto> no?
[07:31] <kakalto> hmm
[07:32] <rr72> anyone like in flames?
[07:33] <ndazza> rr72 they're not bad
[07:33] <rr72> ndazza~ some due i know just sent me a few songs, i don't do too much metal but its good
[07:34] <CVirus> isnt Kplayer in the repos. ?!!
[07:34] <ndazza> if my pci cards don't show up in lspci, what's the problem? tried with several cards in both pci slots
[07:34] <CVirus> ndazza: try lshw
[07:34] <CVirus> ndazza: sudo lshw
[07:35] <CVirus> ndazza: maybe sudo lspci
[07:35] <SpAwN> rr72, there decent
[07:35] <ndazza> CVirus: ok ta
[07:35] <CVirus> np
[07:40] <kakalto> "udev is included in almost every 2.6 kernel based Linux distribution that is shipping" - is kubuntu not included? udev is on my system
[07:40] <kakalto> hmm
[07:40] <Hawkwind> Included and default are two totally different things though
[07:41] <kakalto> true
[07:41] <kakalto> I was probably just thinking along the lines of it being default in gentoo >.>
[07:42] <moparisthebest> that makes no sense
[07:42] <rr72> anyone ever try LFS?
[07:42] <kakalto> yeh.
[07:42] <moparisthebest> I couldnt get my nvidia driver to work, it froze up when I tried to start the x server
[07:42] <kakalto> heheh. ditto
[07:42] <moparisthebest> then I booted an older kernel and it worked perfectly ;)
[07:42] <kakalto> wha?
[07:42] <moparisthebest> but now my sound doesnt work :P
[07:42] <kakalto> lol
[07:43] <kakalto> rr72: I tried lfs once... kinda interesting learning and stuff...
[07:43] <kakalto> but I must say I love the integration that comes from other distros.
[07:44] <rr72> i  like debian SuSE and kubuntu
[07:44] <rr72> top of my list
[07:45] <kakalto> hmm, I disliked SuSE
[07:46] <soulrider> hey rr72
[07:46] <kakalto> haven't tried any official debian distros
[07:46] <rr72> sup soulrider
[07:46] <rr72> kakalto~ why?
[07:46] <kakalto> derivatives work
[07:46] <kakalto> kubuntu is fine
[07:46] <soulrider> hey, you guys know anty program to synch folderS?
[07:46] <soulrider> im gonna need one
[07:46] <kakalto> and I don't run a server or anything that I'd want to mess with debian stable for
[07:46] <rr72> synch?
[07:47] <soulrider> yea
[07:47] <rr72> why not just link em
[07:47] <soulrider> synchronize
[07:47] <soulrider> link them ?
[07:47] <rr72> why?
[07:47] <kakalto> symbolic link
[07:47] <rr72> what are you doing?
[07:47] <soulrider> wtf is that
[07:47] <soulrider> i want to ahve a folde rin my pen drive
[07:47] <rr72> like a shortcut sort of
[07:47] <soulrider> and in my hard drive
[07:47] <rr72> ah
[07:47] <soulrider> that ahve exactly the same contents
[07:47] <soulrider> and say i modify th eone in my pendrive when im nto home
[07:47] <kakalto> so a link wouldn't work.
[07:47] <soulrider> when i connect it to my comp
[07:47] <rr72> and u want it to update when u plug it in?
[07:47] <soulrider> i would like htem to get the same contents
[07:48] <soulrider> exactly
[07:48] <rr72> im sure python would like this but i can't think in pythin
[07:48] <Milhouse> !ghost > Milhouse
[07:48] <rr72> havent dealt with python for ever
[07:48] <kakalto> I dunno if it's just for palmpilots, but I recall a synch package called 'kitchensync' or something
[07:48] <kakalto> kde app
[07:49] <rr72> lol
[07:49] <kakalto> it's a memorable name
[07:49] <kakalto> =)
[07:49] <rr72> love the name
[07:49] <rr72> ;)
[07:49] <soulrider> lol yea
[07:49] <rr72> !ghost
[07:49] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[07:49] <rr72> lol
[07:49] <rr72> i knew that
[07:49] <MilhousePunkRock> re everyone
[07:50] <digibre4k> haloouw.....
[07:50] <rr72> re?
[07:50] <MilhousePunkRock> As in "Hi again" rr72
[07:50] <digibre4k> i have something question???
[07:50] <rr72> oh
[07:50] <rr72> lol im pressing enter before i type cause i play a game and u talk like that
[07:51] <kakalto> digibre4k: we can't help if you don't ask :)
[07:53] <intelikey> anyone on the xorg mouse problem 2.4 kernel ?
[07:53] <kakalto> why are ya using 2.4 anyway?
[07:54] <intelikey> so i can boot from a dos disk
[07:54] <kakalto> ohkay
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Why is adept wanting to uninstall kdelibs-bin?
[07:55] <intelikey> something conflicts with it ?
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Doesn't look like it... Is there no 3.5.4 candidate version for it maybe?
[07:57] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock idk   apt-cache search    is your friend
[07:57] <intelikey> !info kdelibs-bin
[07:57] <ubotu> kdelibs-bin: core binaries for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 795 kB, installed size 2488 kB
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Someone needs to update ubotu...
[07:57] <intelikey> the bot has only 3.5.2
[07:57] <kakalto> well
[07:58] <kakalto> 3.5.2 is dapper release candidate
[07:58] <noaXess_kubuntu> !easysource
[07:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:58] <kakalto> it's what's in the default repos, isn't it
[07:58] <kakalto> to get any newer, you have to add certain repos - which ubotu doesn't seem to cover
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I wonder why apt-get upgrade tells me 80 packets are held back anyway...
[07:59] <intelikey> dist-upgrade
[07:59] <intelikey> if you don't add dist- you don't upgrade the system.
[07:59] <kakalto> I'm out
[07:59] <kakalto> bye
[08:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, that works, thx intelikey aka ratched jawed geek
[08:00] <intelikey> np yw
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !info kpilot
[08:02] <ubotu> kpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 4308 kB
[08:16] <kameron_> i'm having an error with make
[08:16] <kameron_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19667
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, it looks like I am on KDE 3.5.4 now...
[08:18] <grothesk_> MilhousePunkRock: Does it 'punkrock'?
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> grothesk: I hope so... I guess I'll have to restart KDE to find it out... The speed increase on 3.5.3 was really noticeable...
[08:20] <grothesk_> Everytime there is a speedup.
[08:20] <patrootredhat> bonjour alll
[08:20] <patrootredhat> my french
[08:20] <patrootredhat> hello
[08:20] <grothesk_> kde will start before X somewhen.... *g*
[08:20] <grothesk_> Bonjour patrootredhat
[08:21] <patrootredhat> salut
[08:21] <nalpha> how to share data??
[08:21] <patrootredhat> grothesk_
[08:21] <patrootredhat> je suis ou l
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr
[08:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:22] <kameron_> lol, i was about to suggest that, MilhousePunkRock
[08:22] <patrootredhat> merci
[08:22] <patrootredhat> tank
[08:22] <kameron_> lol
[08:22] <bimberi> kameron_: install libx11-dev
[08:22] <kameron_> thank you, bimberi
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I had to guess once for some eastern european language though...
[08:23] <bimberi> kameron_: not too fast, try it first ;)
[08:23] <grothesk_> It was just a greeting in french.
[08:23] <kameron_> ok
[08:24] <kameron_> grothesk_, then xe said, "je suis ou l"
[08:25] <juhakki> are you all kubuntu users?
[08:25] <grothesk_> I guess so in #kubuntu
[08:26] <juhakki> i have tried it a little but that seems to be too heavy compared to gnome
[08:26] <kameron_> i installed kubuntu, but i'm in XFCE now. :-)
[08:26] <grothesk_> I like kde better, if there is recent hardware involved.
[08:27] <grothesk_> On older hardware I go for XFCE.
[08:27] <grothesk_> <--- Does not like gnome.
[08:28] <juhakki> I have fujitsu-siemens crap..:S
[08:28] <kameron_> XFCE is just effin fast
[08:28] <juhakki> integrated intel graphics etc..
[08:29] <kameron_> thank you, bimberi, that worked, it's compiled and installed!
[08:29] <kameron_> and it works, on top of that!
[08:29] <grothesk_> I do have a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo L7300. Runs very good with kubuntu.
[08:29] <bimberi> kameron_: yay! :)
[08:30] <kameron_> it's x2vnc, which is great because i didn't feel like fooling with synergy
[08:30] <grothesk_> Christmas? In august?
[08:38] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:38] <rr72> tink i should eat a 10 oz box of nerdz before bed?
[08:39] <rr72> Fri Aug  4 01:39:33 CDT 2006
[08:43] <farid02> Hallo Friends
[08:44] <farid02> any one know how to install KDE 2.5.4 ?
[08:44] <farid02> 3.5.4
[08:44] <crimsun> that would be noted on kubuntu.org.
[08:45] <farid02> cant fint it there
[08:45] <crimsun> you can't possibly have tried at that hard.
[08:46] <crimsun> it's the top news item on http://kubuntu.org/
[08:46] <crimsun> click the link
[08:46] <farid02> you may be right..will try harder
[08:46] <crimsun> which takes you to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[08:46] <farid02> thank you crimsun
[08:46] <crimsun> np
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> I had to set my KDM theme again, besides that, everything seems to be fine with KDE 3.5.4
[08:48] <farid02> one more question..does Adept Updater not upgrade the KDE like it does all other software like Firefos and Thunderbird etc
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> farid02: It does, if you have the right repos in your sources.list
[08:49] <farid02> what are repos ? please advise
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> !repos
[08:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:49] <serge> I must be dreaming
[08:49] <grothesk_> farid02: Please have a look at www.kubuntu.org
[08:49] <XVampireX> ouch
[08:49] <XVampireX> Ok
[08:49] <rr72> whats wrong?
[08:49] <farid02> ok ok I am going there now
[08:50] <XVampireX> I don't know what happened but I'm using kubuntu now, and it's FAST
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> farid02: The announcement for 3.5.4 tells you the right sources to add...
[08:50] <unix_infidel> XVampireX: wait till you use a more minimalist WM
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> unix_infidel: That brings me back to: Does anyone use e17 with Kubuntu?
[08:51] <XVampireX> unix_infidel: It's not my first time on linux, I just installed kubuntu back (I used to use kubuntu, but went to gnome)
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> XVampireX: What version of KDE do you have? If you had 3.5.2 before and are on .3 now, there is a noticeable difference in speed
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> 3.5.4 is out for Kubuntu now, by the way, XVampireX
[08:52] <rr72> i use 341 :(
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> wb unix_infidel
[08:52] <XVampireX> MilhousePunkRock: I think I used to use .3
[08:52] <XVampireX> Not sure though
[08:52] <intelikey> 342 is current in the repos  i think
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock> 3.5.2, intelikey
[08:53] <intelikey> !info kde
[08:53] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In repository universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Morning emonkey-p
[08:54] <emonkey-p> MilhousePunkRock, moin
[08:54] <intelikey> hmm ?    oh yeah 352  what did i say ?
[08:55] <intelikey> heh typo
[08:55] <MilhousePunkRock> I am expecting the arrival of my additional RAM today, I guess I will have to resize my swap partition?
[08:55] <pwnny> http://z6.invisionfree.com/Best_Damn_Sports/index.php?act=idx
[08:55] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock why ?     to you susspend to disk ?
[08:57] <intelikey> the installer on the live cd  demanded that i make a swap partition.   so i did.   then as soon as the install was over i converted it to $HOME
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: I would if it worked, but with my video chip, the .15 kernel and Xorg, it's a no-go
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> So is swap a big marketing lie? ;-)
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I remember using WinXP without a pagefile, it was awfully slow, even with 1 GB of physical RAM...
[08:58] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock i have ran ubuntu hoary on 64m ram and no swap    used gnome   and kde in that env   you tell me...
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I don
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> lol...
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Stupid enter key
[08:59] <intelikey> yeah it's to close to  '
[08:59] <waggle7622frack> Sorry to butt in, how do you resize swap when running from live Kubuntu with qtparted? Its using the swap partition.
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't care much about that 768 MB (or 1 GB if I resize it) of HDD space missing if I use swap
[09:00] <intelikey> waggle7622frack you   sudo swapoff -a    then do the work.
[09:00] <waggle7622frack> thank you!
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> waggle7622frack: AFAIK not if you don't explicitely tell Kubuntu to use it, or not?
[09:01] <waggle7622frack> It found it on its own and added it to fstab
[09:01] <intelikey> yeah it's screwy that way.
[09:01] <intelikey> the coders thought that was a good idea.
[09:02] <juhakki> why it took so long kubuntu to find cd-rom..
[09:02] <waggle7622frack> It's not a bad idea at all for most users that don't even know what swap is.
[09:03] <intelikey> cause it checked for granet tablets, tape drives, mfm hard drives, and anything else you could think of.
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> waggle7622frack: I guess people who don't know what swap is won't have a swap partition when they run the live CD, don't you think?
[09:04] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock if then have used the livecd to install *buntu they will cause the installer will have created a huge swap partition and they don't even know it.
[09:04] <intelikey> then/they/
[09:05] <intelikey> the n and the y are so close togather
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> What kind of keyboard do you use? n and y are either on the same row but not exactly close, or in different rows with one between them, intelikey
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Take off your boxing gloves when typing... :-P
[09:06] <intelikey> qwerty
[09:06] <intelikey> :)
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> So the n is 2 rows below the y isnt it?
[09:07] <intelikey> well yes.... but you use the same fingure to press them both...      like duh.
[09:07] <sotired> my resolution on my laptop is stuck at 640 by 480 on  a fresh install
[09:07] <sotired> i have an ati m4 agp
[09:07] <sotired> 32mb
[09:07] <intelikey> !ati
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    <--- do that to reconfigure X
[09:09] <sotired> i tried that
[09:09] <intelikey> set the v-reftesh and h-sync correctly any you get more rez.
[09:09] <sotired> when it tries to detect the monitor my screen goes white
[09:09] <intelikey> so don't let it autodetect the monitor.
[09:09] <intelikey> there is an option.
[09:11] <Ace2007> hi
[09:11] <intelikey> wow  that line was bad.    'set the v-refresh and h-sync correctly and you get more rez.'    and if you don't typo like i do you don't have to redo as much.
[09:12] <Ace2007> can someone help me compile vlc swith qt, it can't find the headers which are in /usr/include/qt3/
[09:12] <sotired> shit
[09:12] <sotired> i dont know what to put for my monitor specs...its a laptop
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> !language
[09:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:12] <sotired> im sorry
[09:13] <intelikey> sotired http://monitorworld.com   and search.
[09:13] <sotired> thnx
[09:14] <intelikey> laptop...   not sure monitorworld does that... google or your hardware makers site....
[09:14] <sotired> it doesnt help because i dont know anything about the screen except that dell makes it
[09:14] <sotired> ive done that
[09:15] <sotired> dell doesnt acknowled the inspiron 8000 anymore
[09:15] <intelikey> sotired i don't know much about lappys.  maybe someone with a dell inspiron  could answer you.
[09:16] <intelikey> sotired you can ask in #ubuntu   xorg is not kubuntu specific,  and more users in there.
[09:17] <sotired> i fried my install :)
[09:17] <sotired> its ok...im going to sleep and ill worry about it tomorrow
[09:18] <sotired> thnx anyway
[09:18] <intelikey> yeah come back any time and i'll tell you the same thing     :)
[09:20] <waggle7622frack> What is the most space needed for a root partition?
[09:20] <intelikey> if you only have one partition it takes about 1.8g for the devault install
[09:20] <intelikey> default
[09:21] <intelikey> i assume you mean least size ?
[09:21] <waggle7622frack> no, most
[09:21] <intelikey> 5 billion tera
[09:22] <waggle7622frack> want enough for install and some apps
[09:22] <waggle7622frack> rest of space for home
[09:23] <intelikey> waggle7622frack how much room you got to play with?
[09:23] <waggle7622frack> and should home be primary or extended partition
[09:23] <intelikey> makes no diff
[09:23] <waggle7622frack> 20 gig 512 for swap
[09:24] <intelikey> 4g root  maybe a few g for /var if you like.  the rest /home
[09:24] <imbrandon> i would do about 7 / and the rest /home
[09:24] <intelikey> and you would never be over 50% full on /  either.
[09:25] <waggle7622frack> what is var for again? I havnt messed with it before.
[09:25] <imbrandon> intelikey: depends i have alot of stuff in / ;)
[09:25] <imbrandon> intelikey: sides some wiggle room is nice
[09:26] <intelikey> waggle7622frack the cache dirs    it houses data for apache   and the packages before unpacking are in /var
[09:26] <waggle7622frack> cool thanks, thats what I need.
[09:28] <intelikey> imbrandon sudo du -schx /*
[09:29] <imbrandon> intelikey: what for i know exactly what i have installed ;)
[09:29] <imbrandon> intelikey: alot of mine is diffrent chroots etc
[09:30] <imbrandon> intelikey: but then again i have a 100gb / 100gb /home and a few other parts like 50gb /var etc
[09:30] <imbrandon> intelikey: ;)
[09:30] <unix_infidel> what a waste of space.
[09:31] <intelikey> 100g /   and only 2or3 g used
[09:31] <intelikey> yeah unix_infidel that's what i'm saying.
[09:31] <imbrandon> intelikey: no actualy i just looked about 48 gig used
[09:31] <imbrandon> 48.7
[09:32] <rr73> peace out intelikey and god bless ;)
[09:32] <intelikey> rr73 right back at ya
[09:32] <rr73> intelikey~ ever hear from him lately?
[09:32] <intelikey> not lately.
[09:33] <intelikey> a few weeks
[09:49] <eeos> hi there. I cannot find the packae which contains slmodemd. Do you know where it is?
[09:50] <intelikey> sl-modem-daemon
[09:51] <eeos> intelikey: why I cannot find it through adept????
[09:51] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend.
[09:51] <intelikey> !info sl-modem-daemon
[09:51] <ubotu> sl-modem-daemon: SmartLink software modem daemon. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5build1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1136 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:51] <intelikey> multiverse ^
[09:51] <intelikey> !repos
[09:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:51] <eeos> intelikey: yes I know! but why I cannot see it in multiverse????
[09:52] <eeos> intelikey: could it be that the package is not available for amd 64?
[09:52] <intelikey> beets me.  it's there.
[09:52] <intelikey> yep could be.
[09:53] <eeos> intelikey: I should be able to find and install the package, because I have the lib32 installed.
[09:54] <eeos> intelikey: do you know how to set up a chroot space?
[09:55] <intelikey> eeos i have done it.  but probably not correctly.
[09:55] <intelikey> there are wiki's on that.
[09:55] <intelikey> !chroot
[09:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:55] <eeos> intelikey: I saw it. frankly, I am scared.
[09:56] <intelikey> the bot may not know, but i have read about...
[09:56] <kraut> moin
[09:56] <eeos> intelikey: they always install debian in the chroot, I want to install 32 bit ubuntu
[09:56] <aliasfred> eeos you can install qemu and run inside it
[09:57] <aliasfred> full safe :)
[09:57] <aliasfred> !qemu
[09:57] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[09:57] <intelikey> what's the worst that can happen.  1 someone breaks out of your chrooted jail   2 process hanges in chroot space...    pfft
[09:57] <aliasfred> you can install any os in it
[09:58] <eeos> never heard of qemu
[09:58] <eeos> wait I read
[09:58] <sF|Xemanth> is there "quick launch" style box for kde? like small program launch buttons like in winblows
[09:58] <aliasfred> sF|Xemanth: alt-f2 or katapult via alt-space
[09:59] <eeos> aliasfred: have you ever used it?
[09:59] <sF|Xemanth> hoho... i found quick launch applet :D
[09:59] <ilia> hi. If I dist-upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 it wants to keep back almost all of my packages.
[09:59] <eeos> aliasfred: qemu?
[09:59] <aliasfred> eeos: yep, running wino xp under it
[09:59] <eeos> aliasfred: is it easy to setup?
[09:59] <intelikey> sF|Xemanth i like a command line in the task bar
[09:59] <imbrandon> !debootstrap
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about debootstrap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:00] <aliasfred> eeos: very. like 2 package to install and then install the os via usual cd
[10:00] <imbrandon> eeos: look on the wiki for debootstrap its EXACTLY what your wanting
[10:00] <sF|Xemanth> me too, but its nice to have box next to K button which has all my programs which i use mostly
[10:00] <eeos> debootstrap only installs debian
[10:00] <imbrandon> to run 32 bit ubnutu in 64 bit kernel
[10:00] <imbrandon> eeos: no
[10:00] <imbrandon> eeos: it will install dapper too ( and many others
[10:00] <imbrandon> )
[10:01] <eeos> ah! I read a bit about it but did not understand you could install ubuntu using it?
[10:01] <imbrandon> yes
[10:01] <eeos> can I install debootstrap without installing chroot / qemu or alternatives before?
[10:02] <intelikey> can install anything that will run on your hardware using qemu ?
[10:02] <imbrandon> debootstrap is a chroot helper, one sec lemme get the link for you
[10:02] <sF|Xemanth> now its  perfect <3
[10:02] <eeos> just installed qemu, now I need to read a bit a bout it.
[10:03] <aliasfred> intelikey: well the point of qemu is more to be independant of you hardware. but yes it run quite a lot of things
[10:03] <imbrandon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[10:03] <eeos> blimey, I read about deboot strap, but did NOT understand it was chroot helper.
[10:03] <imbrandon> eeos: ^^
[10:03] <aliasfred> eeos: btw here im just presenting the alternative, not saying it is the best solution for you. anyway i dont even know what are you trying to do :)
[10:04] <imbrandon> eeos: read that link it will tell you exactly how to run 32bit apps in a 32bit chroot on 64bit dapper
[10:04] <eeos> getting more and more stupid with the passing time
[10:04] <eeos> I am trying to run some drivers and packages that are not packaged for amd 64
[10:05] <imbrandon> eeos: thats what that was designed for then
[10:05] <aliasfred> eeos: and still keeping the rest as 64bit ?
[10:05] <w00t> hi
[10:05] <eeos> yes, still keeping the rest as 64 bit
[10:05] <aliasfred> eeos: if so, qemu wont help you much :)
[10:06] <imbrandon> eeos: read that link it will tell you exactly how to run 32bit apps in a 32bit chroot on 64bit dapper
[10:06] <eeos> I am doing some experiments with 64
[10:06] <aliasfred> but it is a very cool software, read about it anyway :)
[10:06] <aliasfred> you can even boot livecd from it without rebooting your box
[10:06] <eeos> wow
[10:06] <sF|Xemanth> hmm is there better systray applet? now applications take too much space in systray (one app vertically, I would like to have two)
[10:07] <imbrandon> aliasfred: mostly becosue qemu is slow ;)
[10:07] <eeos> anyway, I will read about debootstrap first
[10:07] <aliasfred> i would like to have some menu in konqueror for .iso which says 'boot with qemu'
[10:07] <intelikey> aliasfred a 64 to 32 bit app solution was the origenal quest.   a chrooted env or opening a second system to run 32bit apps,     which would you think better/easier/safer ?    (i don't have a k8 btw)
[10:07] <eeos> do you think using chrott + debootstrap will solve my problem
[10:07] <imbrandon> eeos: yes
[10:07] <intelikey> aliasfred script it.
[10:07] <aliasfred> imbrandon: clearly slower than native, but with kemu it is like only 50% slower. so perfectly usable and add many flexibility
[10:08] <imbrandon> aliasfred: vmware == native speeds
[10:08] <eeos> thanks! Talk to you later (need to experiment / read documentation)
[10:08] <aliasfred> vmware == non free and their web site is so full of buzzword that i never succeed to use it :)
[10:09] <imbrandon> aliasfred: in that sense kqemu isnt free either ( closed source )
[10:09] <imbrandon> vmware is free as in beer just as kqemu
[10:09] <aliasfred> imbrandon: indeed but i suceed to install it :)
[10:09] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:09] <imbrandon> aliasfred: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[10:09] <w00t> does any one know how to make my own spash screen?
[10:10] <imbrandon> w00t: kde-look.org
[10:10] <w00t> splash screen
[10:10] <intelikey> vmware is free ?    where?
[10:10] <imbrandon> intelikey: from vmware.com and in the repo, player and server are both free
[10:10] <imbrandon> as i said
[10:10] <imbrandon> aliasfred: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[10:10] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:10] <sF|Xemanth> oh yeah 3.5.3 available for dapper <3 <3 problems are fixed now ?
[10:10] <aliasfred> what is the 'server' ?
[10:10] <sF|Xemanth> 3.5.4*
[10:11] <imbrandon> sF|Xemanth: yes
[10:11] <imbrandon> aliasfred: it lets you run more than one at a time and create vm's not just run them
[10:11] <imbrandon> and connect to console remotely etc
[10:12] <aliasfred> i must be dumb or something, but isnt that the point of vmware to run more than one at a time ?
[10:12] <imbrandon> hrm i have to run , but goto vmware.com click on free virtualazation to read more, but the software is in the repos
[10:12] <imbrandon> aliasfred: more than one from the same console
[10:12] <aliasfred> ok anyway, the vmware package got some gui i could understand ?
[10:12] <imbrandon> better memory mgmt
[10:12] <imbrandon> aliasfred: yes
[10:12] <imbrandon> aliasfred: very simple
[10:12] <aliasfred> imbrandon: i mean as i cant understand their website
[10:12] <aliasfred> ok nice :) i will retry then
[10:13] <imbrandon> bbiab
[10:14] <intelikey> !info vmware-player
[10:14] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[10:14] <intelikey> only for i386 ?    does that exclude i686 ?
[10:15] <intelikey> or was that a generic i*86   but using the 3  ?
[10:15] <imbrandon_> intelikey: 686 is a sub arch of i386 , its not really its own arch
[10:15] <imbrandon_> so in other words yes
[10:17] <imbrandon_> yea any and all 686 stuff works with 386
[10:17] <intelikey> this or that     answer    yes    hehhe
[10:17] <imbrandon_> and vice versa
[10:17] <imbrandon_> 686 and 386 etc are all x86 , just sub arches
[10:17] <imbrandon_> i386 is the common denominator and used
[10:17] <imbrandon_> more often
[10:18] <intelikey> so why doesn't smp work in 386 ?     (ignore that, i'm just pestering you now.)
[10:18] <imbrandon_> sure it does
[10:19] <w00t> ....
[10:20] <imbrandon_> intelikey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-686-smp  <-- read that page , particularly the ARCH at the bottom
[10:21] <imbrandon_> you'll notice it says i386 ;)
[10:22] <ninHer> hi all
[10:23] <intelikey> hey .   if you've got answers, i have a real issue.    my mouse only works with either gpm or xorg  but not both    what might cause this ?
[10:23] <imbrandon_> gpm ?
[10:23] <imbrandon_> brb one sec
[10:24] <intelikey> gpm = general purpose mouse   mouse support for the consoel.
[10:26] <imbrandon_> ahh no idea, never had a need for the mouse on console, thus never used gpm
[10:26] <dek> how do I get my mouse's secondary buttons to work?
[10:26] <imbrandon_> but i would assume both want exclusive access to /dev/mouse or /dev/TTYS0
[10:26] <intelikey> or /dev/psaux
[10:27] <imbrandon_> dek: as in ? right button ?
[10:27] <imbrandon_> intelikey: right , same thing
[10:27] <dek> buttons at the left and right, I usually use them for "Back" and "Forward" in browser
[10:27] <dek> but here they don't seem to work
[10:27] <imbrandon_> dek: ahh you will need to confure the driver in xorg for that particular mouse IF there is linux support for it
[10:28] <imbrandon_> my sugestion is google to start off
[10:28] <dek> ok =)
[10:28] <imbrandon_> what mouse is it ? just curious ?
[10:28] <dek> 5 button mouse
[10:28] <dek> Omega
[10:28] <dek> optic :P
[10:29] <imbrandon_> i know that, brand, model ? like my 5 button mouse is a hp wireless spomethgin or another
[10:29] <dek> dont remember model, i have had it for quite many years now
[10:29] <imbrandon_> omega? heh yea you need to google
[10:29] <jordan_> I have KDE and XFCe can i install xgl only for XFCE ?
[10:29] <dek> xD
[10:29] <imbrandon_> jordan_: no xgl is an X server
[10:29] <imbrandon_> dosent matter what DE you use
[10:30] <imbrandon_> now you can just configure the composite manager for xfce, thats probbably what your wanting
[10:30] <imbrandon_> IE compiz
[10:30] <intelikey> !xgl
[10:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:32] <jordan_> imbrandon_ so what's deieference between xgl on XFCE or KDE
[10:33] <imbrandon_> nothing, XGL is the X server, the DE dosent care what X server you use
[10:33] <imbrandon_> you probably talking about the the "pretty" effects IE the composite manager compiz
[10:34] <imbrandon_> thats like asking what the diffrence between xorg and xfree86 ;)
[10:34] <intelikey> or sh and bash
[10:34] <imbrandon_> yea heh
[10:35] <intelikey> there is a differance in both of the examples tho
[10:35] <imbrandon_> intelikey: yea but not where KDE / XFCE is concerned
[10:35] <imbrandon_> ;)
[10:35] <jordan_> imbrandon_ so i can chose xgl, XFCe or KDE on start ?
[10:36] <intelikey> xorg is a fork of XF86   and while sh is a symlink to bash on many systems bash when invoked as sh acts differently.
[10:36] <imbrandon_> jordan_: no , ok let me explain it real simple , real quick
[10:36] <jordan_> imbrandon_ oki
[10:37] <imbrandon_> right at this moment you have xorg installed, called an X server ( this is going to be a 10 min crash corse , simplified so dont scrutnize me intelikey )
[10:37] <imbrandon_> ok then ....
[10:37] <imbrandon_> KDE and XFCE invoke this X server to display their windows
[10:37] <intelikey> that's what you think................
[10:37] <intelikey> >:] 
[10:37] <imbrandon_> if you insalll xgl , KDE and XFCE will both still invoke the xserver
[10:37] <imbrandon_> just the same
[10:38] <imbrandon_> infact you will notice 0 diffrence most likely
[10:38] <imbrandon_> but
[10:38] <jordan_> but....
[10:38] <berkes> what is the most forcefull kill signal (or command)? I have these runaway priceses that won't kill with a normal kilall or kill $pid
[10:38] <imbrandon_> the good part comes when you install and configure
[10:38] <imbrandon_> compiz the compisate manager
[10:38] <jordan_> compiz it's nice
[10:38] <imbrandon_> now you can JUST install that for xfce and get the "pretty" effect for xfce and not KDE
[10:38] <intelikey> berkes kill -9 -1   or   killall5
[10:38] <imbrandon_> but xgl is just an X server like many others
[10:39] <berkes> thanks intelikey
[10:39] <intelikey> berkes expect to be looking at a console login
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: ahah, you have even your kubuntu.org personal page :)
[10:39] <imbrandon_> it just happens that compiz only works with XGL x server
[10:39] <jordan_> imbrandon_ ok so if i want have compiz a I need install XGLand then compiz ?
[10:40] <imbrandon_> jordan_: correct
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> There is a composite manager for Xorg too though...
[10:40] <jordan_> and compiz been only on XFCE
[10:40] <imbrandon_> MilhousePunkRock: yea i'm doing the simplified version here
[10:40] <imbrandon_> so as not to confuse him
[10:41] <berkes> intelikey: weird, even kill -9 dues not stop the proc
[10:41] <imbrandon_> jordan_: there are compiz versions for xfce kde gnome etc but you can choose to install it only for some or all
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir
[10:41] <jordan_> imbrandon_ have you ever install compiz ?
[10:42] <intelikey> and in short (just to recap)  XGL and compiz  are windomanager/desktop environment intependant.   so they work with 'nome/kde/xfce/twm/fluxbox/...
[10:42] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thank you :)
[10:42] <intelikey> berkes not kill -9     kill -9 -1
[10:42] <imbrandon_> jordan_: a few times yes testing packages
[10:42] <imbrandon_> i dont use it day to day
[10:43] <berkes> intelikey: sure, but that kills all stuff, like a reboot almost, not?
[10:43] <jordan_> imbrandon_ i can safty remove compiz and xgl ?
[10:43] <intelikey> yes   you ask for the most powerfull
[10:43] <imbrandon_> jordan_: sure as long as you replace it back with normal xorg ;)
[10:43] <berkes> intelikey: the most powerfull to kill *a process*
[10:44] <dek> !nvidia
[10:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <berkes> intelikey: the Really Most Powerfull is UNPLUG
[10:44] <intelikey> if you didn't want the most powerful, then why did you specify that?
[10:44] <berkes> as in: pull the power plug :)
[10:44] <jordan_> xorg are beter then xgl ?
[10:44] <intelikey> from a software standpoint  it's kill -9 -1
[10:45] <jordan_> !xgl
[10:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:45] <aliasfred> berkes: kill -9 is the most powerfull at this, if the process doesnt die, it is blocked in a IO/waiting for another process aka it is not using any cpu
[10:46] <berkes> aliasfred: okay. i'll try to find aht is blocking it, then
[10:46] <aliasfred> berkes: pstree can help you at that
[10:46] <aliasfred> berkes: if it is waiting on another process, it is on a child process
[10:46] <berkes> aliasfred: ye but it tells me nnothing usefull. I am investigating lsof now
[10:47] <aliasfred> berkes: if it is the case im talking about the waiting process is in 'defunct' state
[10:47] <eeos> imbrandon: I am back! I have set up chroot as you suggested
[10:47] <aliasfred> it should appears in ps/top/etc...
[10:47] <imbrandon_> eeos: gj
[10:47] <eeos> imbrandon: one strange thing is that if I chroot in /var/chroot, and then I issue the command uname -ra
[10:48] <berkes> aliasfred: it is indeed in defunc state
[10:48] <eeos>  imbrandon: it still tells me the kernel is amd 64. is that right?
[10:48] <imbrandon_> eeos: thats the running kern, dosent matter to the choot
[10:48] <imbrandon_> yup thats right, no biggie
[10:48] <imbrandon_> still 32bit userland
[10:48] <aliasfred> berkes so there is a child process which is not yet dead
[10:48] <aliasfred> berkes: look at the PPID = parent processus id
[10:48] <berkes> aliasfred: four in fact
[10:49] <imbrandon_> eeos: did you see the examples how to run software from it and all? good job
[10:49] <eeos> imbrandon: ok. the other strange thing, when I start the chroot, then I get 2 errors: cnannot find name for group 1000 (admin), cannot find name for gourp 101 (eeos)
[10:49] <eeos> imbrandon: is that normal?
[10:49] <intelikey> killall5
[10:49] <intelikey> kill
[10:49] <intelikey> kill kill kill
[10:49] <intelikey> oh sorry.
[10:50] <imbrandon_> eeos: not really but also not a biggie, re go through the tut and make sure you dident skip something
[10:50] <intelikey> berkes what is it that's defunct ?
[10:50] <berkes> intelikey: yea, but I'd like my apt-get update to finish first :p
[10:50] <berkes> intelikey: amarok. I'm in #amarok too btw
[10:50] <intelikey> ah it resumes.
[10:51] <intelikey> k i was just wondering.
[10:51] <eeos> ibrandon: yes, I have already done it, I do not understand what is happening, it is like the new system is missing these 2 users
[10:51] <eeos> imbrandon: :-(
[10:51] <intelikey> but apt will resume.    you issue the same command and it will pick up where it left off
[10:51] <imbrandon_> and it probbly is, there is a section on how to create thsoe in the tut
[10:51] <intelikey> i do like that about apt.
[10:51] <imbrandon_> thats why i said go bac
[10:53] <intelikey> typos.... is the crash course over,  can i play now ?
[10:53] <intelikey> >:] 
[10:53] <imbrandon_> lol
[10:55] <pkrumins> Strange, I received free kubuntu CDs but the computer won't boot them. Boots other CDs but not kubuntu cds
[10:55] <burepe> What is the command that will tell me my computer specs?
[10:56] <imbrandon_> cat /proc/cpuinfo , depends there are diffrent ones
[10:56] <imbrandon_> thats for cpu obvious
[10:56] <imbrandon_> ly
[10:57] <intelikey> i had an issue with some of the deb packages using #!/bin/bash  rather than #!/bin/sh  in their pre/post* scripts   beleive it or not that can break things.   the env for sh is posix but the env for bash is user land joy  and can pull in unexpected command transiants
[10:57] <imbrandon_> pkrumins: try to pass the "other option" ( f6 key on boot kubuntu screen ) acpi=off
[10:57] <imbrandon_> intelikey: file bugs
[10:58] <intelikey> i'd have to register with *buntu for that....
[10:58] <pkrumins> imbrandon, it doesnt boot at all
[10:58] <intelikey> it's bad enough that i use it.  don't ask me to register also.
[10:59] <pkrumins> says no bootable device found
[10:59] <pkrumins> one of my pcs crashed so i decided to take look at both kubuntu and at the hdd which failed
[10:59] <pkrumins> but kubuntu just didnt boot
[10:59] <pkrumins> so i booted simply ubuntu
[10:59] <pkrumins> which did boot
[11:00] <imbrandon_> pkrumins: bad cd then as they both use the EXACT same boot loader
[11:00] <Kabal> Riddell: Is it safe to upgrade to 3.5.4 now?
[11:00] <pkrumins> i received 5 kubuntu cds and 3 of them didnt boot
[11:00] <imbrandon_> Kabal: yes
[11:00] <Kabal> thanx imbrandon :)
[11:00] <pkrumins> didnt try the other 2 since they probably wouldnt boot either
[11:01] <pkrumins> maybe i got an older drive or smth and you are using some features which the drive doesnt understand or smth
[11:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me how to activate the oxygen layout?
[11:01] <pkrumins> i have no idea
[11:01] <pkrumins> just wanted to let you know
[11:01] <imbrandon_> pkrumins: not likely if the ubuntu cd's booted as i said they boot loader is EXACTLY the same down to the vyte
[11:01] <pkrumins> if it doesnt work for me, might not work for someone else
[11:01] <imbrandon_> byte*
[11:01] <pkrumins> hmm.
[11:01] <pkrumins> then there is something wrong with the cds i guess
[11:02] <intelikey> pkrumins are you saying dapper cd's for kubuntu wont boot but dapper cd's of ubuntu will, on the same box?
[11:02] <imbrandon_> intelikey: yes
[11:03] <pkrumins> let's see
[11:03] <pkrumins> i have kubuntu Version 6.06 LTS which doesnt boot
[11:03] <pkrumins> and ubuntu version 5.04 which does boot
[11:03] <jordan_> !xfce
[11:03] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <pkrumins> i am not expert in various ubuntus since i use slackware so i dont know about drapper version
[11:04] <imbrandon_> pkrumins: thats two diffrent versions
[11:04] <XVampireX> hi
[11:04] <intelikey> pkrumins yeah.   ok  that's what i was asking.    the hoary cd's were better imo.
[11:04] <XVampireX> I got kubuntu through ubuntu
[11:04] <imbrandon_> 504 is breezy 606 is dapper
[11:04] <XVampireX> And  I'm wondering
[11:04] <pkrumins> aha
[11:04] <intelikey> no
[11:04] <jordan_> i use sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and how to start XFCE ?
[11:04] <intelikey> 5.4 is hoary
[11:04] <pkrumins> ah
[11:04] <imbrandon_> err yea horay, old old old
[11:04] <intelikey> 5.10 is breezy
[11:04] <XVampireX> I have 3.5.2 installed, do I need kubuntu repositories for 3.5.3/3.5.4?
[11:05] <intelikey> yeah a year old.
[11:05] <imbrandon_> jordan_: when your login window comes up there is a "menu" button
[11:05] <imbrandon_> XVampireX: yes
[11:05] <intelikey> woo hoo
[11:05] <XVampireX> imbrandon_: where do I get them?
[11:05] <jordan_> i now but there aren't be xfce
[11:05] <imbrandon_> kubuntu.org ;)
[11:05] <jordan_> only KDE :/
[11:06] <XVampireX> :-/
[11:06] <intelikey> well i'll be using dapper until the next debian release.
[11:06] <burepe> what is the command to tell how big my hd is?
[11:06] <XVampireX> df
[11:06] <lowercase> fdisk
[11:06] <burepe> thanks
[11:06] <imbrandon_> df -H will tell you about your mounts or fdisk -l
[11:06] <intelikey> fdisk -l
[11:07] <intelikey> lshw is good    if i understand your Q
[11:07] <imbrandon_> XVampireX: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[11:07] <jordan_> imbrandon_  i now but there aren't be xfce on ly KDE and last sesion
[11:08] <pkrumins> ok, see you later
[11:08] <imbrandon_> jordan_: then you dident get it installed all the way and / or dident restart kdm
[11:08] <pkrumins> just wanted to let you know the cds dont work
[11:08] <alex____> sup guys.
[11:08] <alex____> my name sucks
[11:08] <RSnake> hey,I need help here
[11:08] <imbrandon_> alex /nick newname
[11:09] <RSnake> I want to change my languages but when I go to Regional/Languages I can only choose between English or British English, I've already installed a language Package
[11:09] <alex____> lol okay
[11:09] <ricardo> has anybody tested the new kernel 2.6.16.27?
[11:09] <jordan_> imbrandon_ the first I have one error :
[11:09] <jordan_>  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[11:09] <jordan_> E: Nie udao si pobra niektrych archiww, sprbuj uruchomi apt-get update lub uy opcji --fix-missing
[11:10] <imbrandon_> jordan_: you need to fix your internet , apt-get update
[11:10] <intelikey> RSnake dpkg-reconfigure locales     if you mean you want to change it system wide
[11:11] <RSnake> where do I have to typ 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' ?
[11:11] <imbrandon_> konsole
[11:11] <RSnake> k,thx
[11:12] <plugs> does anyone have nicotine installed?
[11:12] <intelikey> prepend sudo
[11:12] <intelikey> it needs root permissions.
[11:13] <RSnake> how do I get root permissions ??
[11:13] <intelikey> why would a package sujest     Recommended packages:
[11:13] <intelikey>   linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7
[11:13] <intelikey> i'm running linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[11:13] <RSnake> on Kununtu 'coz I've got Kubuntu
[11:14] <intelikey> prepend sudo
[11:14] <bbt> are there any unofficial repos with more recent / custom kernels ?
[11:15] <RSnake> intelikey,I don't understand this 'prepend sudo'-thing,I'm really new to Linux and such...
[11:15] <imbrandon_> RSnake: put "sudo" before the command
[11:15] <imbrandon_> to run as root
[11:15] <intelikey> prepend means put this in front of...     sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:15] <RSnake> ok,thx :p
[11:15] <intelikey> whereas append would mean follow with this...
[11:16] <intelikey> and the password is your user password.
[11:16] <RSnake> ok,thx a lot
[11:16] <intelikey> !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <intelikey> for more info ^
[11:17] <imbrandon_> bbiab
[11:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !multiverse
[11:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !easysource
[11:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:19] <RSnake> intelikey,I've done exactly as you said but still,I can't only choose between English and British English when I'm in Regional/Languages
[11:19] <RSnake> should I reboot first ?
[11:20] <imbrandon_> did you install the kde lang packs also
[11:20] <intelikey> RSnake yes i think at least an X reset is required.
[11:21] <RSnake> I don't know,I just downloaded the NL Packages
[11:21] <RSnake> ok,I'll reboot and see if I can change it
[11:22] <intelikey> RSnake
[11:23] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-<your.nl>
[11:23] <Kabal> small question.. is it possible to do a condump in cli?
[11:24] <intelikey> he'll have bulgarian console that he never see's  and kde unchanged.
[11:24] <intelikey> Kabal not sure what 'condump' is but i have yet to find anything cli couldn't do
[11:24] <Kabal> with DOS it's possible.. in Quake also.. but how about deb? ;)
[11:25] <intelikey> what does a 'condump' do exactly ?
[11:26] <Kabal> copies the txt in cli to a file or whatever..
[11:26] <Azzco> I've got a question... the bind Control + Esc, what does it perform? I mean what program does it run so that I can ru it even if  I change WM
[11:26] <intelikey> tee ?
[11:26] <intelikey> command > file.
[11:26] <plugs> i'm trying to open Adept and it says "Su returned with an error." any ideas?
[11:27] <intelikey> use gpm and copy and paste the screen.
[11:27] <Azzco> logoff
[11:27] <Kabal> thanx intelikey I will try :)
[11:28] <intelikey> plugs means you can use sudo       to test this type   sudo echo yes
[11:29] <intelikey> if it asks for your password and then says yes.   you sudo ok.   if not,  you have no admin access.
[11:33] <intelikey> Kabal you can redirect the output of files in two way,  the pipe |  or the redirects > and >>    using a pipe you can use the output of one command as the input of another  i.e. cat /boot/Config* | more     with the redirrects you can print the output to another file.   i.e.  cat /boot/Config* > lists    or  cat /boot/Config* >> lists     the first will use the more pager to let you read one page at a time the file/s in que
[11:34] <intelikey> that contains the output of the files in question and the last will add the output of the cat command to the file 'lists'  if it already exists, or creat it if not.
[11:36] <intelikey> the command  'tee'   lets you view normal output while also sending the output to a file    i.e.  cat /boot/Config* | tee lists    <-- that one prints to the file and displays the output      on the other hand   gpm=general purpose mouse    is console mode mouse copy and pasting like the gui.
[11:37] <intelikey> Kabal there are also ways to 'dump' the display buffer to a file or to standard out.
[11:38] <grothesk> Where do I configure modules to be probed in kubuntu?
[11:38] <grothesk> Something like 'boot.local' in Suse.
[11:39] <intelikey> speaking of 'stdout'  something in cli use the 'stderr' standard error  to display text a normal redirect wont pick that up   use  2>  for stderr
[11:39] <intelikey> grothesk /etc/modules
[11:40] <intelikey> that's  2>  or  2|  for piping
[11:41] <intelikey> to tie stderr to stdout use  2>&1    then they will both be sent to stdout
[11:42] <intelikey> command 2>&1 > dump.file     <--- all output including error messages go in 'dump.file'
[11:43] <intelikey> more than you ever wanted to know.     ;/
[11:44] <luisillo> hello, what is the default path to Themes folder?
[11:45] <luisillo> anyone know where is located the themes folder in the linux partition?
[11:47] <intelikey> some place in /usr/share   i'd think  but there may be more than one.
[11:48] <intelikey> search     grep -HiRe theme /usr
[11:49] <luisillo> thx intelly
[11:49] <Kabal> intelikey: Thanx for all info :) got it noted
[11:50] <intelikey> yeah  np guys.
[11:51] <Karti> Hi all
[11:55] <egarim> exist a file where could i put my iptables rules in /etc/init.d or could i add into rc.local ?
[12:12] <D4m4ge> hello
[12:13] <jordan_> !xgl
[12:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:15] <rc--> hello
[12:16] <Lynoure> Does KDE quality setting for Ogg encoding automatically affect KAudioCreator?
[12:16] <rc--> how do I change my default session in kdm? (I apt-getted ubuntu-desktom) and now the default session is gnome, but I want it to be KDE)
[12:17] <rc--> s/desktom/desktop
[12:17] <Lynoure> KAudioCreator shows a commandline in it's Encoder settings and from that I'd kind of think it doesn't but if not, what does the KDE setting affect?
[12:21] <jordan_> enybody: I look for them to XFCE
[12:22] <rc--> I searched the forums and read man-page for Xsession and Xsession.options, but I can't find out where to change the default xsession
[12:26] <intelikey> .dmrc
[12:27] <intelikey> rc-- nano ~/.dmrc
[12:28] <jordan_> I have rendering on KDE but in XFCE no. how to get them ?
[12:32] <gan|y|med> hallo
[12:32] <gan|y|med> are there any backports for dapper already?
[12:34] <gan|y|med> hello?
[12:35] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, official or some others?
[12:35] <gan|y|med> is there a conference or what is going on?
[12:35] <gan|y|med> well, any.
[12:36] <gan|y|med> official would be best, but i have some nasty problems so i'll take what i can
[12:36] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, fore example there is a archive from the german kubuntu community with some nice packages
[12:37] <gan|y|med> well tell me about it.
[12:37] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, here's some list of the packages: http://packages.kubuntu.de/dapper_complete.php?i18m=en
[12:38] <emonkey-p> and there is another archive from the dutch ubuntu community with some nice packages (seveas)...maybe it is easier to help if you tell us more about your problem
[12:39] <emonkey-p> oh... yes and of course there are official kde 3.5.4 packages fpr dapper
[12:39] <emonkey-p> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:42] <gan|y|med> oh that's nice!
[12:42] <gan|y|med> well, basically i have several problems. one of it concerns kvpnc
[12:43] <gan|y|med> it is absolutely not reliable.
[12:43] <emonkey-p> ok... good luck with the upgrades...maybe it helps
[12:43] <gan|y|med> sometimes it starts (ps -A shows it) and takes space in the task line, but it is invisible
[12:44] <gan|y|med> sometime sit starts just fine, but it cannot take the cisco passwords and user name out of kwallet.
[12:44] <gan|y|med> and sometimes it just works fine... any ideas?
[12:45] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, no I've tryed it for while with another vpn client, unfortunatley it hasn't worked any time
[12:46] <gan|y|med> it has become much better, but still it is a mess. i wanna get rid of the command line for "normal work" (don't get me wrong, i love the console)
[12:47] <emonkey-p> no prob, i know what u mean
[12:48] <gan|y|med> now it wants to remove kdelibs-bin! is that right?
[12:49] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, yes
[12:49] <emonkey-p> I've the same and it works fine
[12:56] <ganymed> sry, problems with wlan
[12:57] <ganymed> i am all the time losing my connection
[12:57] <ganymed> and nobody moves around a wall-mounted cisco router! that's really annoying!
[12:58] <ganymed> emonkey-p: can you tell me where to find the german and dutch repos?
[12:59] <emonkey-p> ganymed, http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php?i18n=en&main=1&restricted=1&ubuntu=dapper&universe=1&multiverse=1&update=create&preview=1#list
[01:00] <emonkey-p> ganymed, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages?highlight=%28seveas%29
[01:02] <ganymed> thx
[01:13] <XVampireX> Hi, how do I install nfs in kubuntu?
[01:16] <XVampireX> Can anyone help?
[01:16] <jott> XVampireX: install nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server
[01:16] <XVampireX> which one?
[01:16] <jott> XVampireX: i use the kernel one.. works fine here..
[01:16] <XVampireX> alright :)
[01:18] <jott> XVampireX: you have to setup /etc/exports and hosts.allow and things like that of course..
[01:19] <XVampireX> jott: Oh :D
[01:19] <XVampireX> jott: can't I configure it through the GUI?
[01:20] <jott> XVampireX: uhm... can't tell you.. i guess there is a gui - but never needed one ;-) do a "man exports" ...
[01:20] <ganymed> ok, i cannot use pastebin, it doesn't work (time-out) so i'll paste a few line here.
[01:20] <jott> XVampireX: in a secure environment you probably do not need to restrict host access...
[01:21] <ganymed> i get this error when i start almost ANY app. it costs me at least one second, which is very annoying when using apwal.
[01:22] <ganymed> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[01:22] <ganymed>   Major opcode:  148
[01:22] <ganymed>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:22] <ganymed>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:22] <ganymed> Failed to open device
[01:22] <ganymed> and this twice. does anybody have this problem?
[01:22] <__osh___> ganymed: that's a xorg.conf thing about some weird pointer device. it's not harmful.
[01:23] <jott> ganymed: looks like the wacom input devices defined by default in the xorg.conf
[01:23] <ganymed> so i just deactivate it?
[01:23] <__osh___> jott: right, that weird pointer device...
[01:23] <ganymed> it is very "harmful" for my workflow
[01:23] <__osh___> ganymed: if you like to. can't hurt i suppose.
[01:24] <jott> __osh___: not that weird - i got one ;) but the default config is weird indeed ;-)
[01:24] <__osh___> jott: what is it then? a mouse? I have no idea.
[01:25] <intelikey> yes.  if you don't have any wacon devices remove all three in the xorg.conf and don't forget to remove the refferances to them at the bottom of the xorg.conf
[01:25] <intelikey> tablet
[01:25] <jott> __osh___: no this tablet things with pen.. or even a tabletpc with a touchpad...
[01:25] <ganymed> intelikey: thx for the hint
[01:26] <__osh___> jott: right. a weird input device, as in "not a keyboard, which is the true and right way to communicate with a computer". ;-)
[01:26] <ganymed> well, seems like one of the xorg developers has one :)
[01:27] <ganymed> thx for your help
[01:27] <ganymed> i am going to restart now. upgrade :)
[01:27] <jott> __osh___: hehe yeah disable all pointer devices under X.. who needs a mouse anyway ;-)
[01:27] <ganymed> jott: you don't believe how fast you can e with a mouse
[01:27] <intelikey> no prolly not.   more like one of the ubuntu team trying to make wacom 'just work' in *buntu
[01:28] <__osh___> jott: who needs X anyway. I've actually WORKED with punchcards. Not many people have done that today...
[01:28] <ganymed> it is not the mouse, it is the conventional way mouse interfaces are designed
[01:28] <nagyv> hello! anyone to help me in synching my mobile with korganizer? it's a Sony-Ericsson D750i.
[01:28] <ganymed> the m$ way. ups, that's the way kde uses...
[01:29] <jott> but one of those would be nice to have: http://www.wacom.com/pressinfo/photography/21UX_Illustration_lg.jpg  ;-)
[01:30] <ganymed> well, that has sth.
[01:30] <ganymed> ciao
[01:31] <intelikey> anyone here good with mouse problems ?     my ps2 two button wont work with xorg and gpm at the same time.  but will work with either.    any takers ?
[01:31] <jott> intelikey: i guess gpm blocks the device ;)
[01:32] <[Nige] > hi all,
[01:32] <jott> intelikey: afaik there is a gpm driver for X .....
[01:32] <intelikey> hmmm.
[01:33] <intelikey> jott doesn't turn up in an apt-cache search
[01:33] <[Nige] > I am having some huge problems with ati and big desktop - I cant seem to set my default display to use 2560x1024 i keep getting 1280x1024 and only 1 monitor function correctly
[01:33] <jott> intelikey: check if you have a /dev/gpmdata
[01:33] <[Nige] > if i type xrandr -s 11 ( which is 2560x1028) its works fine but I have to manually set that everytime.. its annoying.... this is an ATI raedon 9550 :(
[01:33] <nagyv> [Nige] : which ATi driver are you useing?
[01:33] <intelikey> jott ype
[01:33] <intelikey> yep
[01:33] <[Nige] > nagyv,  i am sure its the latest
[01:34] <[Nige] > nagyv, OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10)
[01:34] <[Nige] > 8.27.10
[01:34] <jott> try this one as X mouse device.. but without garantee ;) haven't used gpm since like 8 years ;)
[01:34] <nagyv> [Nige] : you mean the proprietary drivers?
[01:34] <intelikey> jott tried.  no go.
[01:35] <nagyv> [Nige] : there are three possibilities radeon/ati, fglrx, proprietary
[01:35] <intelikey> like i said mouse works in 'either or'  but not  'and'
[01:35] <[Nige] > nagyv, thse where the proprietary ones from ati site
[01:36] <jott> intelikey: there are some config for gpm to act as a repeater as far as i remember...
[01:36] <grothesk> Why is .xsession-errors flooded by each app that is running?
[01:36] <intelikey> jott yep set to     device=/dev/psaux
[01:36] <intelikey> repeat_type=ms3
[01:36] <intelikey> type=ps2
[01:36] <nagyv> [Nige] : do you need it for sure? did you tried the other ones?
[01:36] <grothesk> Mine is 2,3 MB now after 2 hours uptime.
[01:37] <[Nige] > i have tried the fglrx and same problem
[01:37] <[Nige] > i am pretty sure I have tried all three
[01:37] <[Nige] > both do the same thing....
[01:38] <jott> intelikey: The gpm repeater mode. If you start gpm with the "-R protocol" option, it will repeat all data it gets to the device /dev/gpmdata. Let us say, you have a ps2 type mouse and your gpm call looks like: gpm -t ps2 -Rmman then gpm gets your ps2 mouse data and tries to translate this into a mman packet, which it will emit to /dev/gpmdata. Unfortunately, gpm can translate to only a few protocols at the time of writing. Since gpm 1.18.1, these protocols to 
[01:38] <jott> intelikey: just a quick "google hint" .. ;)
[01:39] <intelikey> jott commonly used command here.  tty6 [root#~]  gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -R ms3
[01:40] <jott> intelikey: hm.. and the gpmdata won't give you output? (like with cat /dev/gpmdata and move the mouse around)?
[01:41] <intelikey> yeah but the mouse don't move in X
[01:41] <jott> intelikey: but as i said i haven't used gpm for years so i can't really help you ... just blind guesses ;)
[01:41] <jott> intelikey: maybe the driver selected for the mouse does not match the protocol the gpmdata gives...
[01:42] <intelikey> driver selected    where ?
[01:42] <intelikey> in xorg.conf ?
[01:42] <jott> intelikey: yes... as long as cat /dev/gpmdata gives some output i guess xorg needs an other driver.. but don't ask me which one ...
[01:43] <intelikey> let me be forth comming with some pertanant info.    it works with kernel version 2.6.*  but i'm using 2.4.*
[01:43] <jott> intelikey: probably the ps2/ms3 stuff
[01:43] <root> is there a ubuntu chat client I can use to talk to people using msn?
[01:43] <intelikey> apply that to the same configs.   ^
[01:44] <intelikey> root gaim  does msn iirc   i don't do windows.
[01:44] <intelikey> hooper ^
[01:44] <jott> intelikey: hm strange.. no clue... :/
[01:44] <hooper> gaim?
[01:44] <intelikey> jott yeah me too.    thanks for the time of day though.
[01:44] <jott> np
[01:44] <intelikey> hooper it's an app on your system
[01:45] <hooper> k ;)
[01:46] <jott> hooper: for "k"ubuntu there is also kopete that supports msn....
[01:48] <intelikey> jott last fellow i talked to about this also wanted to know why i use 2.4 kernel   just in case you wondered i don't need an initrd and can boot from a dos floppy with the 2.4  the bare kernel wont fit on there for 2.6 and it also needs a 5m initrd    as things stand atm i'll be using the 2.4 for a while.
[01:48] <jott> intelikey: sure i thought it was on purpose ;)
[01:49] <intelikey> just thought you might be like most and wondered why.
[01:52] <intelikey> krap.  cant use the deb of vmware player cause it uses kernel 2.6.15-23    while the updater updated mine to 2.6.15-26      so the packages in the repos are out of sync it seems.
[01:53] <intelikey> i guess i could find the older deb and install it...   three kernels  </shakes head slowly>
[01:55] <BazziR> intelikey: 2.6.15-23 should be still on your disk, shouldn#t it?
[01:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks !
[01:55] <BazziR> and you might enable another repos to get vmware player updates
[01:56] <BazziR> +have to
[01:57] <Pupeno> does anybody know of a tool to generate XMLRPC requests ?
[01:58] <BluesKaj> what's the kernel version cmd ?...I forgot
[01:58] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: uname
[01:59] <intelikey> BazziR i don't normally keep things around long unless i think i might need to reinstall it.
[01:59] <BluesKaj> Pupeno, that just says linux
[01:59] <intelikey> BazziR thus updated kernel version stay long enough to make sure the new one boots.
[02:00] <BazziR> :)
[02:00] <intelikey> BluesKaj man uname
[02:03] <BluesKaj> intelikey, i guess I'm not clear ..just like to know which kernel version number 2.6.1 or whatever it is ?
[02:04] <grothesk_> *rant-mode*
[02:05] <grothesk_> Yesterdays kernel update messed up my udev rules. Soundcards were switched, so that mixer of my tvcard was snd0 und my main card was snd1.
[02:06] <grothesk_> I mean, I can configure it by myself (blacklisting saa7134 module and modprobing it later on...), but how should a so called newbee cope with it?
[02:07] <Russel> hiho
[02:08] <Russel> i have a little problem: kaffeine hangs at: kaffeine: WARNING: KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one...
[02:08] <Russel> any solutions?
[02:11] <gbr> hallo, hoe kom ik aan geluidskaart drivers?
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Complete Linux kernel on 386.
[02:15] <BluesKaj> This package will always depend on the latest complete Linux kernel available
[02:15] <BluesKaj> for 386
[02:15] <grothesk_> gbr: English please...
[02:16] <BluesKaj> does the above mean the kernel is self updating whenever a newer stable kernel is available ?
[02:16] <grothesk_> BluesKaj: Yes.
[02:17] <BluesKaj> cool , thx grothesk
[02:18] <gbr> Hello, I'm looking for drivers for my sound card cmi 8738. Can you help?
[02:30] <grothesk_> gbr: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8338%2C+CMI8738%2C+CMI8768&module=cmipci
[02:31] <grothesk_> gbr: Bur normally it should already run out-of-the-box.
[02:32] <grothesk_> gbr: Try: modprobe snd-cmipci
[02:33] <sjk> I downloaded the latest release of Kubuntu for the powerpc yesterday. I'm trying to install it on my Mac PowerBook G3 today. I get to the point where the installer tries to install the boot loader Yaboot, and I get the following error: "The installation of the yaboot loader failed. Please check the system log or the output on the third console. Warning: your system may be unbootable!"
[02:33] <gbr> thanks grothesk, I will try this immediately.
[02:33] <sjk> Does anyone have any hints to give me? And, where's the system log?
[02:53] <rodrigo_> Somebody could qive me the spanish channel?
[02:54] <cwraig> sorry no idea
[02:54] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:54] <ilia> hi. Can I customize a 64bit LiveCD from a 32 bit Kubuntu (on a 64bit PC)?
[02:54] <rodrigo_> ubotu: thank you very much!
[02:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you very much! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:54] <BluesKaj> hehe
[02:55] <BluesKaj> ilia are you running 32 bit right now ?
[02:55] <ilia> yes, on a 64bit pc
[02:55] <ilia> I`ll chroot to the 64bit version to edit it, then build the casper image
[02:56] <BluesKaj> keep it that way ...the 64 bit didn't work very well on my 64 bit pc and I was advised to switch to 32bit, which I did due to the problems with broken pkges on the 64 bit vers
[02:57] <BluesKaj> sounds like you know more about compliling a kernel than I do :)
[02:57] <BluesKaj> casper ?
[03:00] <ilia> the livecd image is called "casper"
[03:11] <ricardo> hi...anybody used to XSLT?
[03:22] <shadedpast> is there a kubuntu equivilent of synaptec?
[03:23] <jfro> anybody know why i'd get a failed to create driver error when adding a printer with the system settings printer tool
[03:23] <abattoir> shadedpast: 'adept' KMenu->System
[03:23] <shadedpast> is there a program on kubuntu like synaptic for ubuntu?
[03:23] <shadedpast> k
[03:24] <Jack1> how can i configure konqueror that it always starts up with the f9 menu on the side?
[03:24] <nnn0> shadedpast: aptitude
[03:24] <shadedpast> thnx
[03:24] <nnn0> shadedpast: or Adept maybe
[03:24] <shadedpast> is aptitude like apt-get?
[03:25] <nnn0> Adept should be on the mennu
[03:25] <jfro> it's adept in kde
[03:25] <abattoir> Jack1: you can save it in a 'view profile' and load that profile when you launch konqueror
[03:25] <shadedpast> what is the command like apt-get is that also adept
[03:25] <cwraig_> what?
[03:25] <shadedpast> srry for being a noob
[03:26] <Jack1> abattoir i have only view mode..
[03:26] <cwraig_> adept is the update manager that is based on the apt-get command line
[03:26] <abattoir> Jack1: you can save it in that if you want... else you can create a new one
[03:26] <abattoir> shadedpast: you can use 'apt-get' too
[03:26] <shadedpast> o thnx
[03:26] <cwraig_> apt-get is the system that manages downloading and installing packages
[03:26] <shadedpast> that was what i wanted to know
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry guys, i need a hand with c++
[03:27] <cwraig_> and programs like adept (kde) and synaptic (gnome) are simply gui interfaces for apt-get
[03:27] <Jack1> ok thx abattoir
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use the following line to compile my program: gcc -I/usr/include/libxml2/ -L/usr/lib/ -llibxml2 main.c
[03:28] <cwraig_> i know its not a very kde thing to do but the first thing i do on a kubuntu install is sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but what i get is that he can't find libcml2
[03:28] <cwraig_> its a better gui package manager then adept
[03:28] <jfro> hmm
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> libxml2*, i think i put the wrong value as pre-last argurment ( -l ), somebody of you can help me?
[03:28] <jfro> i haven't had much prob with adebt, i shoudl try synaptic tho
[03:29] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[03:29] <jfro> Tallia1Kubuntu: -lxml2
[03:29] <cwraig_> hi
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, let me try
[03:29] <Shinzetsu> Can someone help me? I ran ScummVM and all of a sudden my sound is gone
[03:29] <jfro> -l implies lib afaik
[03:29] <ubuntu_> im starting on Linux world
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jfro: have you ever used it? just to know :)
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, i see
[03:29] <jfro> yeah i compiled a small libxml2 app once, well libxslt
[03:30] <ubuntu_> im installing Kubuntu
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ohhhh, you are right!!, glut and libGlut.so
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :D
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> thanks jfro
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i really hope it will work :P
[03:30] <jfro> :)
[03:30] <shadedpast> what is the text editor for kubuntu lol
 you like it?
[03:30] <cwraig_> kate
[03:31] <cwraig_> sorry <shaded> kate is the editor
[03:31] <shadedpast> o ok
[03:31] <shadedpast> and where is sources.list located
 /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <shadedpast> is it the same?
[03:31] <shadedpast> o thnx
 the same as what?
[03:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jfro: grrrrr, the guy i was helping left... no comment ...
[03:32] <jfro> ah ha, printer driver isn't installed it looks like, might have found my prob =P
[03:33] <Shinzetsu> My sound icon in the tray is also gone
[03:35] <jfro> gnome-cups-manager wins
[03:36] <Shinzetsu> someone?
[03:37] <shadedpast> everytime i try to use kate i get "ERROR: cummunication problem with kate, it probably crashed"
[03:37] <TheGateKeeper> shadedpast: from the cli?
[03:38] <shadedpast> what? cli
[03:38] <shadedpast> ???
[03:38] <shadedpast> i type it in the konsole
[03:38] <shadedpast> im trying to edit sources.list
[03:38] <TheGateKeeper> shadedpast: <C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterpreter i.e. konsol
[03:39] <TheGateKeeper> ok
[03:39] <shadedpast> oh ok
[03:39] <TheGateKeeper> go to Run Command... and type in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jfro: do you have any idea of what this means? warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness
[03:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in the c++ compiler
[03:40] <shadedpast> k
[03:40] <jfro> Tallia1Kubuntu: not entirely, just that you have one variable that maybe is unsigned and assigning it to something signed, or vice versa, maybe
[03:40] <jfro> doesn't ncessarily mean it won't work tho, hehe
[03:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> xmlChar * xpath = "/foo[@bar='baz'] ";
[03:40] <shadedpast> nothing happens
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't really know what this mean :P
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> means*
[03:41] <jfro> Tallia1Kubuntu: does it work at least?
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> think so.. no errors after make
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> thanks a lots jfro :D
[03:41] <jfro> np
[03:41] <TheGateKeeper> shadedpast: can you start Kate from your utilities menu?
[03:47] <cwraig_> i dont think that kate is on the menu
[03:47] <jfro> aww it isn't
[03:47] <jfro> hehe
[03:48] <fredrik_> hello
[03:48] <fredrik_> need help
[03:48] <fredrik_> =)
[03:48] <jfro> blah, back to work
[03:48] <fredrik_> how do i format my disc??
[03:48] <eeos> hi there. I think I dentified one of the reason why cups 1.2.2 does not work after install on amd64
[03:48] <fredrik_> the c: drive?
[03:48] <eeos> I want to check my findings
[03:49] <fredrik_> and how do i switch server? to efnet?
[03:49] <eeos> anyone who is investigatng this issue is here?
 you need Qtparted
[03:50] <fredrik_> what?
[03:50] <fredrik_> i want to format it that i can install xp, then i can split my hdd and install kubuntu too
[03:51] <fredrik_> but my computer dont accept xp now. it can find the hhd in xp install
[03:52] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright
[03:52] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyone awake?
[03:52] <cwraig_> fyea
[03:52] <cwraig_> im awake
[03:53] <cwraig_> yea there is a partitioner called qtparted
[03:53] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[03:53] <Vliegendehuiskat> prolly
[03:53] <cwraig_> its on the knoppix distro if you cant get it for kubuntu
[03:53] <cwraig_> i know you can apt0get it
[03:54] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[03:54] <Vliegendehuiskat> and what my problem is is that i don't have a clue about cif webcams in linux
[03:55] <cwraig_> nup i cant help ya
[03:56] <BluesKaj> ok I've DL'd and extracted Flashplayer as instructed and tried to run trhe installer as instructed in the notes , but I keep getting this message .. bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> frhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=linux+tutorial
[03:57] <baskew> BluesKaj: maybe you need to cd into that dir you just extracted
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> I  ran ScumMVM and now my sound is gone (also the sound icon in the tray)
[03:59] <BluesKaj> bask how ?
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> fredrik_: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=linux+tutorial
[03:59] <BluesKaj> baskew,
[04:00] <baskew> BluesKaj: you need to unpack the installer (if you haven't already) then do "cd <unpacked_dir>" with out quotes, and <unpacked_dir>= whater the name of the dir is when you unpacked it
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ok , baskew , I'm there , now what ?
[04:00] <otamendim> buenos dias, disculpen alguien podria ayudarme a aclarar una duda
[04:00] <baskew> BluesKag: do an ls -al do  see if the flashplayer_installer is there
[04:01] <baskew> BluesKag: if so, then you should now be able to ./flashplayer-installer
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok  baskew , got it ,thz :)
[04:01] <otamendim> tengo kubuntu, y cuando intento guardar un archivo de openoffice en un dispositivo extraible como un pen drive o diskette,...
[04:01] <BluesKaj> thx
[04:01] <baskew> BluesKKag: np
[04:02] <otamendim> ...me dice que salvar usando el protocolo media no esta soportado
[04:02] <otamendim> si alguien puede ayudarme se lo agradeceria, GRACIAS
[04:02] <abattoir> !es
[04:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:02] <abattoir> otamendim: apt-zip might be useful
[04:02] <ubuntu_> woooot
[04:02] <ubuntu_> i have a big problem
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i cant install Kubuntu with Win XP on my SATA drive
[04:03] <ubuntu_> :(
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> someone?
[04:03] <otamendim> thank you man, I'm sorry
[04:03] <ubuntu_> I get an error : Fail loading SO
[04:04] <baskew> sorry Shinzetsu,  dont know
[04:04] <ubuntu_> damnit
[04:04] <BluesKaj> hmmm ,
[04:04] <BluesKaj> Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[04:04] <BluesKaj>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[04:05] <baskew> BluesKaj: just move that file, like mv /usr/local/mozilla/components/xpti.dat /usr/local/mozilla/components/xpti.dat.BACK or something
[04:05] <baskew> BluesKag: I dont know where the mozilla dir is exactly, im not on my machine right now
[04:06] <baskew> BluesKaj: if you install it in your home dir look in ~/.mozilla
[04:08] <baskew> BluesKaj: if you cant find it try locate xpti.dat
[04:09] <dhq> is there any tool like dreamweaver for kubuntu
[04:10] <grothesk> dhq: nvu
[04:10] <grothesk> !nvu
[04:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:10] <grothesk> :-(
[04:10] <BazziR> !info nvu
[04:10] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[04:10] <abattoir> dhq: quanta too
[04:10] <grothesk> <--- Stupid...
[04:10] <ubuntu_> damn i need help
[04:10] <abattoir> !info quanta
[04:10] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB
[04:11] <dhq> abattoir: is it a easy interface
[04:11] <ubuntu_> i have formated hard disk seven times
[04:11] <ubuntu_> i cant run linux with XP
[04:11] <ubuntu_> GRUB sux
[04:12] <abattoir> dhq: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/screenshots.php
[04:13] <grothesk> ubuntu_: GRUB even boots a OS from a piece of paper where 'OS' is written on...
[04:14] <Gh0st75> mornin folks
[04:16] <gplfighter> morning?
[04:16] <gplfighter> here it is 4.15 pm
[04:19] <Gh0st75> well, mornin where i am.....11:45am here
[04:19] <gplfighter> lol
[04:19] <gplfighter> us?
[04:19] <EsKapade_> exit
[04:19] <Gh0st75> nope, Newfoundland, Canada
[04:19] <gplfighter> k
[04:19] <ubuntu_> SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX
[04:20] <gplfighter> ow, ther :-)
[04:20] <Gh0st75> easternmost part of north america, heh
[04:20] <gplfighter> i see
[04:20] <ubuntu_> im hating kuguntu
[04:20] <ubuntu_> IAIAHAHAA
[04:20] <gplfighter> ?
[04:20] <gplfighter> why?
[04:20] <ubuntu_> i have a headache
[04:20] <ubuntu_> :((
[04:20] <ubuntu_> its imposible
[04:20] <gplfighter> :p
[04:20] <ubuntu_> i want use linux
[04:20] <ubuntu_> but
[04:21] <baskew> ubuntu_: have you prepared the disks properly
[04:21] <ubuntu_> i cant install Kubuntu and XP
[04:21] <baskew> or disk
[04:21] <Gh0st75> i have kubunto and xp dual booted for lan gaming purposes, i didn't have any trouble at all, and am first time nix user
[04:21] <ubuntu_> :S
[04:21] <baskew> i dua boot xp, and ubuntu as well
[04:21] <ubuntu_> i have kubuntu 6.06 CD
[04:21] <baskew> *dual
[04:21] <ubuntu_> and XP SP2
[04:21] <ubuntu_> at first
[04:22] <ubuntu_> i install XP on my SATA
[04:22] <ubuntu_> next, i install kubuntu
[04:22] <Gh0st75> i just popped the awesome live DVD / install DVD into my drive and rebooted, and chose to install it on boot (xp already on the system. it let me make partitions and installed on one i chose almost effortlessly
[04:22] <ubuntu_> and i select install on /dev/sda
[04:22] <ubuntu_> SCSI SATA disk
[04:23] <ubuntu_> and i reduce winxp partition to 40%
[04:23] <Gh0st75> my sata drive isn't scsi but that shouldn't make a huge difference
[04:23] <ubuntu_> but
[04:23] <ubuntu_> when kubuntu finish
[04:23] <ubuntu_> i reboot and GRUB doesnt load
[04:23] <ubuntu_> i get the message: Fail loading SO
[04:24] <baskew> did you make /boot part
[04:24] <Gh0st75> can't say i've had that problem
[04:24] <Gh0st75> you chose two partitions, one for / and one for swap right?
[04:24] <ubuntu_>  /boot part?
[04:24] <ubuntu_> i try that too
[04:25] <ubuntu_> i tried that too*
[04:25] <nagyv> ubuntu_: a couple of month ago I tried to use a Knoppix CD on a SATA drive, and it could not start neither. It can happen that your SATA is khmm... too much new
[04:25] <baskew> yeah i used a 100mB /boot partition at beginning of drive
[04:25] <ubuntu_> but i have the same error
[04:25] <ubuntu_> kubuntu make it
[04:25] <baskew> khmm
[04:25] <ubuntu_> i only select install on SATA
[04:26] <ubuntu_> where XP is installed
[04:26] <ubuntu_> and i use scrollbar to reduce partition
[04:26] <ubuntu_> do you know?
[04:27] <ubuntu_> well
[04:27] <baskew> are u able to boot into xp after the kubuntu install finishes
[04:27] <ubuntu_> no
[04:27] <ubuntu_> i cant
[04:27] <ubuntu_> i try fixmbr
[04:27] <ubuntu_> i've tried
[04:28] <ubuntu_> fixmbr and bootcfg but its impossible
[04:28] <Gh0st75> scsi drive you're using not supported yet maybe?
[04:28] <ubuntu_> i think that kubuntu crash MBR sector
[04:28] <ubuntu_> its a SATA Maxtor 120 Gb
[04:28] <nagyv> Is there any way to automatically mount an USB winchester at startup if it is present? I mean are there any shell scripts or something?
[04:28] <baskew> you said it calls it /dev/sda?
[04:28] <ubuntu_> kubuntu recognice it
[04:28] <ubuntu_> yeah
[04:29] <ubuntu_> SO detects hda (my ide drive) and sda (my sata drive)
[04:29] <baskew> weird, thats how my flash drive is detected
[04:29] <ubuntu_> and i select to install on sda because i have important data on hda
[04:30] <ubuntu_> kubuntu runs perfectly without XP installed
[04:30] <ubuntu_> but i cant manage the boot sector
[04:31] <ubuntu_> i am going to reset, thx guys
[04:31] <baskew> good luck
[04:33] <fir3st0rm> how can i configure kde to use the samba 'share' dialog in konqueror?
[04:39] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: what are you trying to do, have you got windows boxes trying to look at shares on a linux box?
[04:41] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: yes, i have
[04:41] <fir3st0rm> sharing works, but only with root access in the control center
[04:42] <fir3st0rm> i want to use the 'share' dialog in konqueror to share files (without root access)
[04:43] <waylandbill> is there instructions for updating to 3.5.4?
[04:44] <Tm_T> waylandbill: have you read kubuntu.org ?
[04:44] <mario> !list
[04:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:44] <waylandbill> Tm_T, HA! obviously I didn't thanks.
[04:45] <narvik86> how can i download all JPG files from server? wget -r and?
[04:45] <mario> !list
[04:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:45] <Tm_T> waylandbill: yeah, I know, it's too obvious ;)
[04:45] <Tm_T> mario: stop raping the bot
[04:46] <trappist> narvik86: depends how you want to do it.  man wget for details.
[04:46] <ubuntu> hi dudes
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: easiest way is to install samba then create a directory, then go to System Settings -> Sharring and set it up from there
[04:46] <mario> help
[04:46] <ubuntu> see, i have two options to install WinXp and ubuntu
[04:46] <ubuntu> on /dev/hda Master IDE (hda) 160Gb
[04:47] <Tm_T> mario: you can't get any help if you don't tell what is your problem
[04:47] <ubuntu> or /dev/sda: SCS1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 122,9 Gb
[04:47] <narvik86> trappist but i cant do it :/ i tried -i *.JPG but it is downloading ither files
[04:47] <Tm_T> ubuntu: and?
[04:47] <ubuntu> i cant install XP and kubuntu
[04:47] <hsn_> !mp3
[04:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:48] <ubuntu> and my hard drive isnt SCSI, its SATA
[04:48] <Tm_T> ubuntu: sata is scsi-based, so equal
[04:48] <ubuntu> if i install, firts, XP, and next, y use this wizard
[04:48] <ubuntu> Tm_T ok ;)
[04:48] <ubuntu> but the problem is
[04:49] <ubuntu> i always get : Fail to load SO
[04:49] <waylandbill> ubuntu, yes. Install XP first then the installer will find it and put in Grub.
[04:49] <ubuntu> no
[04:49] <ubuntu> XD
[04:49] <Tm_T> interesting
[04:49] <ubuntu> grub dont work
[04:49] <ubuntu> installer wont find XP
[04:49] <ubuntu> grub doesnt work
[04:49] <Tm_T> ubuntu: in where you get that error? you have all installed and then? or during install?
[04:50] <ubuntu> Tm_T:
[04:50] <ubuntu> see
[04:50] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: you mean control center->internet&network->file sharing?
[04:50] <ubuntu> at firts
[04:50] <trappist> narvik86: try -A *.jpg
[04:50] <ubuntu> i format all drives
[04:50] <ubuntu> mi SATA and my UDMA
[04:50] <ubuntu> next, i install WinXP on SATA
[04:50] <ubuntu> perfect
[04:51] <ubuntu> i reboot the pc and i use the kubuntu installer
[04:51] <ubuntu> kubuntu recognize my drives correctly
[04:51] <narvik86> trappist i wiil try, thanks
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: yes, you using gnome ubuntu?
[04:51] <ubuntu>  dev/hda (udma) and dev/sda (sata)
[04:51] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: no, debian sid+e17 to be honest
[04:52] <Shannon1> hi everyone,, can anyone help me with internal modem config,, it connect, stays on only for few second and gives me error message''remote is required to authenticate itself but .....
[04:52] <ubuntu> im using KDE
[04:52] <ubuntu> well
[04:52] <ubuntu> i select dev/sda
[04:52] <Shannon1> couldnt find any suitable secret password fo tit to use
[04:52] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: but there are a lot of kde apps installed
[04:52] <Shannon1> none of the available password would let it use an IP
[04:52] <ubuntu> and i use the scrollbar to reduce the SATA partition
[04:52] <ubuntu> where XP is installed
[04:53] <ubuntu> installer say me that it will use the free space of partition
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: ohhh well hope it's the same, long time since I have debian, and sid is a bit long in the tooth :-)
[04:53] <ubuntu> installer runs perfectly and
[04:53] <ubuntu> when i reboot pc
[04:53] <BluesKaj> Shannon1, that could be your ISP asking for your password that you have previously setup with them, do you remember it
[04:53] <ubuntu> i get at dos the message
[04:54] <ubuntu> fail to load S.O
[04:54] <ubuntu> there arent grub messages
[04:54] <ubuntu> only: fail to load SO
[04:55] <ubuntu> i dont know
[04:55] <ubuntu> but i have formated my hard disk 7 times
[04:55] <ubuntu> im tired
[04:55] <Shannon1> the password are ok,, on 2 ISP that I have,, it connect verify and disconnect,, modem does the same thing on the 2 ISP same mesage,, can it be a config that my laptop doesnt answer back for some reason,, I have to authenticate when Im wired on network,, and it works fine ,, same authentication on modem cant stay connected
[04:56] <narvik86> can you use fixmbr in win rescue console and later grub-install?
[04:56] <ubuntu> Tm_T
[04:56] <ubuntu> narvik86
[04:56] <narvik86> ?
[04:56] <ubuntu> i can use
[04:56] <ubuntu> but
[04:56] <ubuntu> it cant repare XP partition
[04:57] <ubuntu> i only can format
[04:57] <ubuntu> another time
[04:57] <waylandbill> from the repair console you can use fixmbr
[04:57] <ubuntu> yes
[04:57] <ubuntu> i use
[04:57] <ubuntu> fixmbr
[04:57] <narvik86> but fixmbr erases only mbr
[04:57] <ubuntu> and reset the PC
[04:57] <narvik86> and when booting for windiows is ok
[04:58] <ubuntu> but i get the same message
[04:58] <ubuntu> fail to load SO
[04:58] <Gh0st75> ok, just spent an hour tryin to get mp3s workin and no luck, will try again after lunch, am hungry, lol
[04:59] <ubuntu> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[04:59] <ubuntu>   well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[04:59] <ubuntu>   Se formatearn las siguientes particiones:
[04:59] <ubuntu>      particin #1 de /dev/sda como ext3
[04:59] <ubuntu>      particin #5 de /dev/sda como intercambio
[04:59] <trappist> narvik86: wget -r --no-parent -A.jpg http://server.com
[04:59] <ubuntu> :((((
[05:00] <ubuntu> i will try to use UDMA drive
[05:00] <ubuntu> instead of SATA
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: Have you tried the alternative cd ?
[05:00] <narvik86> what about other bootloaders?
[05:00] <ubuntu> i dont know how to use it
[05:01] <ubuntu> i hope that the installer make it easy :D
[05:01] <ubuntu> its no normal
[05:01] <ubuntu> its simple, install wxp, install linux in the same drive,
[05:01] <ubuntu> reduce xp partition
[05:02] <ubuntu> reboot and grub should happen
[05:02] <ubuntu> should show it
[05:02] <ubuntu> excuse my bad english
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> Its no more difficult to use than the other installer (but works alot better)
[05:04] <ubuntu> i have lost 4 days formating and installing
[05:04] <ubuntu> :O
[05:04] <ubuntu> im newbie with linux
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: Have you tried using the alternative cd yet ?
[05:04] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn no  i am using the normal liveCD
[05:05] <cryistal> hi guys!
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: The normal live cd sometimes has problems with serial ata drives
[05:05] <ubuntu> narvik86 i cant use private msg
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: But the alternative one (even though its text based) should work fine
[05:05] <ubuntu> im not registered
[05:05] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn i'll try then :D
[05:05] <cryistal> Yesterday I installed Kubuntu for the first time, it's wonderful!
[05:06] <narvik86> ubuntu there are instructions how to register, one command
[05:06] <hooper> does anybody know who I can talk to to work through a compiler setup problem?
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: Ideally you don't want to have to resize the partitions (just only use part of the drive for windows when you install it)
[05:07] <ubuntu> mm
[05:08] <ubuntu> i dont understand
[05:08] <ubuntu> when i install linux or win?
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> If you are reinstalling both you may as well just make windows only use part of the disk
[05:09] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn, i get the error using all space of SATA for ubuntu
[05:09] <ubuntu> too
[05:09] <ubuntu> without XP
[05:09] <|lostbyte|> Hi, how is the draback for using a linux program from a fat fs and viseversa ?
[05:10] <|lostbyte|> how/what*
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> Well just use all the space of the sata from the alternative installer and it should work fine (if you have windows on another disk - don't know why you would really want to though)
[05:10] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: fat doen not know about unix rights.
[05:10] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, ok and..
[05:11] <ubuntu> i will try another time
[05:11] <ubuntu> now, im installing kubuntu
[05:11] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: Usually you can't even execute programms from a fat partition.
[05:11] <ubuntu> without XP
[05:11] <ubuntu> on SATA
[05:11] <ubuntu> if i get the same error
[05:11] <narvik86> but try alternative cd
[05:11] <ubuntu> i will use UDMA
[05:11] <ubuntu> yes
[05:11] <ubuntu> i will try too
[05:11] <|lostbyte|> will the program/music run slow...
[05:11] <sebbar> hey people can you tell me if there is a firefox extension which tells me whenever a certain internet site has been updated?
[05:12] <ubuntu> thx guys!
[05:12] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: mp3 will not run slow.
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> RSS?
[05:12] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: executables will not run afaik.
[05:12] <sebbar> no, just a regular site. Is that possible?
[05:12] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, and as i have large space alocated on for linux, only 5 GB for zp, what will i experiance for running a game from ext2 on xp.. ?
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, well thats specifically what RSS is for
[05:13] <|lostbyte|> zp/xp*
[05:13] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: Do you have drivers fr ext2 in windows?
[05:13] <grothesk> ext2fs are they called, afaik.
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sebbar, no idea, the only thing I can think of is RSS
[05:14] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, yes, those ones.
[05:14] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: I really don't know. Linux only here.
[05:14] <sebbar> so if i'd like to be kept updated on planetkde.org there is no way?
[05:15] <clojster> holla
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> sebbar, http://planetkde.org/rss20.xml
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> the RSS feed
[05:16] <clojster> is there easy way to grab iso from CD/DVD/Directory in KDE?
[05:16] <clojster> any application?
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> clojster, bchunk?
[05:16] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, ok ! as i use only windows for games, at the same time want to give it very little space.. so i encounter a filesystem crossing execution process.and i dont know if i am really getting the full processing power or am loosing it in fs to fs transfer.
[05:16] <clojster> Admiral_Chicago: thanks, i'm gonna try
[05:16] <sebbar> excellent, tnx
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i dont know if thats what you want but bchunk is what i use to make iso out of bin/cue
[05:17] <clojster> nono
[05:17] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: I think so...
[05:17] <clojster> I want just to grab DVD into ISO to my HDD
[05:17] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, k
[05:17] <lens> I was wondering if anyone could help me compile this program... I have 2 folders and 1 file... the two folders are NICOLE (the name of the program) and NICOLE-PHP... then there is a .db file (database)... do I need all of these to install?  whats with the DB and PHP file, do I need to put them into the main NICOLE folder before I compile??
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> clojster, oh, well yea bchunk isn't for that
[05:18] <clojster> in Gnome its the matter of one right click... i want something simple like that in kde... there must be tool for this
[05:18] <grothesk> clojster: k9copy
[05:18] <waylandbill> clojster: I use k9copy to dump a DVD to my HDD.
[05:18] <clojster> k9copy keeps crashing all the time...
[05:18] <waylandbill> grothesk has quicker fingers.
[05:19] <clojster> and i dont need to shrink the dvd... just grab it full
[05:19] <grothesk> clojster: k9copy
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> clojster: just use dd
[05:19] <clojster> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/foo/bar.iso?
[05:20] <|lostbyte|> !rescue
[05:20] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> clojster: dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso (/dev/cdrom is probably just a link just the same)
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> clojster: then you can just do sudo mount -o loop bar.iso /media/dvdimage
[05:27] <lens> I'm still trying to get this program to install, would anyone check out my pastebin, I would appreciate it.  http://pastebin.ca/115400
[05:28] <Gh0st75-away> does kubuntu have a comic book reader akin to CDisplay? i expected one to be called Komix or something, hehe
[05:32] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Ping
[05:32] <stanks> hi
[05:33] <stanks> i need some help
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> stanks, whats the problem
[05:33] <stanks> i have one movie on cd with extension mpg
[05:33] <stanks> i can watch it in my standalone dvd player
[05:33] <BluesKaj> strange ...I logged in from the cmd line and startx gave me the gnome desktop :)...I normally us kde but I was trying to start xgl
[05:33] <stanks> i try to convert one vcd movie
[05:34] <stanks> extracting mpg file was ok
[05:34] <rikioh> are you wanting to watch it on your computer or what?
[05:34] <stanks> and when i want to watch it on standalone dvd i can't
[05:34] <stanks> dvd says no audio no data track found
[05:35] <stanks> what is the problem
[05:35] <rikioh> have you watched a vcd on that dvd player before?
[05:35] <stanks> yes
[05:35] <stanks> and mpg files
[05:35] <stanks> but this mpg file is dead
[05:36] <stanks> everything is fine on comp
[05:36] <brandon_> konq is opening links as chached text files instead of as webpages
[05:36] <rikioh> you using the same kind of cd's as before?
[05:36] <stanks> yes
[05:36] <rsosborn> hello all
[05:36] <narvik86> hi
[05:36] <rsosborn> does anyone know the command to show hidden files from the terminal
[05:36] <rikioh> did you burn the cd as slow as you can
[05:36] <stanks> even try to make dvd structure of this mpg file
[05:36] <rsosborn> I'm trying to edit .htaccess file for oscommerce
[05:36] <stanks> no...i set max speed :-D
[05:37] <narvik86> ls -a
[05:37] <rsosborn> I need to make sure it have username and password protected
[05:37] <rikioh> try to burn it as slow as you can
[05:37] <stanks> ok
[05:37] <narvik86> rsosborn ls -a
[05:38] <rikioh> what program did you use to convert it or w/e u did
[05:38] <rsosborn> let me try thanks
[05:38] <stanks> i extract mpg with vcdxrip
[05:38] <rsosborn> narvik: one more question in Kubuntu what is the command to edit file
[05:38] <rsosborn> I know in ubuntu it was gedit
[05:38] <stanks> then avidemux to set some things
[05:38] <rsosborn> I tried kedit
[05:39] <rsosborn> but didn't work
[05:39] <narvik86> kate
[05:39] <stanks> that is all
[05:39] <rsosborn> att
[05:39] <rsosborn> ahh
[05:39] <narvik86> kwrite can be also
[05:40] <rikioh> whats the irc command to connect to a second server
[05:40] <Kr4t05> rikioh: it depends.
[05:41] <rikioh> i just wanna be on 2 servers at once
[05:41] <brandon_> can somebody try soemthing for me?
[05:41] <narvik86> yes
[05:41] <Kr4t05> rikioh: just type /server irc.newserver.com
[05:41] <Kr4t05> It should open a new tab.
[05:41] <rikioh> and ill still be connected here?
[05:41] <brandon_> narvik86: are you talking to me?
[05:41] <narvik86> yes
[05:42] <brandon_> which version of kde are you using?
[05:42] <Gh0st75> rikioh, i just went to file->serverlist and clicked new, added the new server and clicked connect
[05:42] <narvik86> brandon_ 3.5.4 i think
[05:42] <Gh0st75> and am currently on two servers at the moment
[05:42] <brandon_> narvik86: do you have amarok?
[05:42] <narvik86> brandon_ yes but im using beepmediaplayer
[05:42] <brandon_> narvik86: please start amarok
[05:43] <narvik86> brandon_ already
[05:43] <brandon_> narvik86: start playing a song and go to the context menu. click the lyrics tab
[05:43] <brandon_> narvik86: now click the "add" button
[05:44] <brandon_> narvik86: it should open a link in konqueror
[05:44] <rikioh> ok it worked
[05:44] <Gh0st75> great
[05:44] <narvik86> brandon_ wait a second
[05:47] <brandon_> narvik86: click the "context" button on the far left. the lyrics tab will be on the top after that
[05:48] <narvik86> brandon_ konqueror opens my home directory
[05:48] <brandon_> narvik86: when you click the add button?
[05:49] <dognews> hi
[05:49] <narvik86> brandon_ yes
[05:49] <narvik86> brandon_ but know it open webpage
[05:49] <brandon_> narvik86: it doesn't open a submit page or a cached php file?
[05:49] <dognews> has anyone of you tried out xgl on kubuntu?
[05:50] <narvik86> brandon_ i clicked something above add, to star lirycs "searcher"
[05:50] <Gh0st75> not i, i've only just got kubuntu installed, not too deep yet, just up to my elbows in the basics :)
[05:50] <brandon_> narvik86: you clicked the search button?
[05:50] <narvik86> brandon_ it opens now in example: http://lyrc.com.ar/en/add/add.php?grupo=Sum%2041&tema=The%20Hell%20Song&disco=Does%20This%20Look%20Infected&ano=0
[05:52] <narvik86> brandon_ for search is: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=lyrics%20%22Sum%2041%22%20%22The%20Hell%20Song%22
[05:52] <brandon_> narvik86: that's the actual address that konq opens?
[05:53] <narvik86> brandon_ when i press which button?
[05:53] <brandon_> search
[05:53] <narvik86> brandon_ http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=lyrics%20%22Sum%2041%22%20%22Hooch%22  for actually song
[05:54] <narvik86> brandon_ sorry for my english
[05:54] <brandon_> it's alright
[05:56] <narvik86> brandon_ when i clicked Lyrics, i also clicked something to start lyrics searching
[05:56] <samuel_> Hmm, using amarok in Edgy, it ask if i want to install mp3 support, if i choose No it ask to enable universe repository! :/
[05:57] <Gh0st75> i've managed to enable the universe and multiverse repositories, but still can't get kaffeine to play my mp3s
[05:58] <dognews> Gh0st75: did you install the codecs?
[05:58] <dognews> try easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[05:59] <Gh0st75> i went into adept package manager and did searches for xvid, divx and mp3 and installed any that seemed related to playback
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: try libxine-extracodecs
[06:00] <dognews> Gh0st75: I did it with easyubuntu and it worked fine - you can select what you want to have (also flash stuff and skype,...)
[06:00] <DaSkreech> cart: Sounds like a bug
[06:00] <Gh0st75> that one was one a website told me to look for, but it wasn't in the list under Adept
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: libxine-extracodecs isn't there?
[06:00] <Gh0st75> nope DaSkreech
[06:00] <Gh0st75> libxine ones were there, but not the extracodecs one
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Did you click Fetch Updates?
[06:01] <Gh0st75> yes
[06:01] <Gh0st75> i clicked that after enabled the multiverse and universe repositories
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Do you have libxine1c2?
[06:01] <Gh0st75> checking...
[06:01] <cart> DaSkreech: Yeap, is Edgy afterall! :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> cart: Might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <aliasfred> q. what is the page where riddel describe the current issue of kde 3.5.4 with kubuntu ?
[06:03] <Gh0st75> k, installin libxine1c2 there now
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: No don't install it :)
[06:03] <aliasfred> !kde3.5.4
[06:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde3.5.4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: I just wanted to know if you had it in the list
[06:03] <Gh0st75> doh
[06:04] <Gh0st75> k, cancelled that
[06:04] <DaSkreech> and there is no libxine-extracodecs?
[06:04] <Gh0st75> nope
[06:05] <DaSkreech> what do you get when you search for xine-extra ?
[06:06] <Gh0st75> ooh, tried a search for it and it found it
[06:06] <Gh0st75> after scanning it manually several times, lol
[06:07] <Gh0st75> installin it now
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: Search rock (google's) world
[06:10] <PingunZ> How can I save flash movies I see in firefox ?
[06:11] <aliasfred> PingunZ: dunno, but get the url of the flash file and do a wget
[06:11] <aliasfred> then mplayer or other video player may play it
[06:11] <waylandbill> PingunZ: use wget to fetch the file
[06:12] <PingunZ> TY
[06:14] <aztun> hi
[06:14] <aztun> has been solved the bug with kubuntu-default-settings on last kde packages??
[06:15] <rsosborn> does anyone know about oscommerce?
[06:15] <rsosborn> I'm trying to edit .htaccess
[06:15] <aztun> I tried it few weeks ago rsosborn
[06:15] <rsosborn> to protect my /admin
[06:16] <rsosborn> I used a .htaccess generator
[06:16] <rsosborn> but it still doesn't ask for username and password
[06:16] <rsosborn> any ideas?
[06:16] <rsosborn> I think it may be the path I'm using
[06:16] <rsosborn> I tried /var/www/public_html/catalog/admin/
[06:17] <aliasfred> rsosborn: ask appache to accept this option :)
[06:17] <rsosborn> which is where it is
[06:17] <rsosborn> I use webmin
[06:17] <rsosborn> any idea where that would be
[06:17] <rsosborn> I'm still learning
[06:17] <aliasfred> dont remember, but i know there is one
[06:18] <aztun> dont remember rsosborn
[06:18] <rsosborn> let me play around with this idea
[06:18] <rsosborn> thanks
[06:18] <aztun> try "grep -R  htaccess /etc/apache2/*
[06:18] <aztun> try "grep -R  htaccess /etc/apache2/*"
[06:19] <aztun> to find it
[06:19] <Gh0st75> mp3s and xvid/divx playin fine now, thanks for the help folks :)
[06:20] <rikioh> did you just burn it slower or?
[06:20] <brandon_> i need to put konqueror back to 100% default status
[06:21] <aztun> brandon_: konqueror misconfigured when u upgraded kde?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: You good?
[06:23] <brandon_> aztun: no, it was misconfigured b4 that
[06:27] <Gh0st75> yeah DaSkreech, all my media's playin now, thanks kindly
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: Sure.
[06:28] <Gh0st75> my to-do list for windows-linux transition is gettin lots shorter now
[06:29] <damian_> anyone know the url to the ubuntu documentation on vnc over ssh?
[06:30] <Hawkwind> damian_: Search the wiki, it's probably there
[06:32] <larson9999> Gh0st75: what do you have left?
[06:35] <bytefoo> does anyones kmixer every freak out and hit 99% cpu :|
[06:35] <bytefoo> ever*
[06:38] <sensei> !mp3
[06:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <jon_> hello ?
[06:42] <tsdgeos> hi
[06:44] <sensei> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:44] <sensei> Gah, which repo contains libxine-extracodecs?
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> sensei, multiverse or universe is my guess
[06:44] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:45] <abattoir> sensei: ^^^^^
[06:45] <sensei> I have them uncommented and have done a successful apt-get update
[06:45] <sensei> The multi and universe that is
[06:45] <[GuS] > sensei, multiverse
[06:46] <sensei> [GuS] : multi = multiverse in this case :)
[06:46] <[GuS] > i know
[06:46] <abattoir> sensei: make sure you enabled it for 'dapper'... rather than 'dapper-backports'
[06:46] <[GuS] > yep
[06:46] <sensei> abattoir: Good point
[06:47] <abattoir> sensei: :)
[06:47] <sensei> Ah, there they are, cheers
[06:50] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:50] <draik> What is the time difference from GMT to Pacific Time?
[06:50] <abattoir> -8 ?
[06:51] <draik> GMT 12pm would be 4am Pacific?
[06:51] <baskew> -7 i believe
[06:51] <baskew> draik: time.gov
[06:51] <draik> thank you
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> GMT (is not the time in england - we currently are on GMT+1)
[06:52] <jordan_> how to install compiz only for XFCE ?
[06:52] <nnn0> you mean GMT + sunlight savings
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> jordan_: #xubuntu would be more likely to know
[06:52] <jeekl> Amarok refuses to play flac files. I'm using Xine with extracodecs isntalled. Anyone know a fix?
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> nnn0: BST == GMT+1
[06:54] <draik> I'm -7
[06:54] <draik> Thanks all
[06:54] <aliasfred> q. what is the status of the kde354 bug conf file in kubuntu ? still pending ?
[06:55] <nnn0> what i mean is, that in the wintertime - the TZ in Engliand is GMT
[06:55] <draik> Hey?!?! Who gave Adept Updater an overdose of caffeine?!?!
[06:58] <ninHer> hi all
[06:58] <mark___> hi all, my sound works one time out of 2,
[06:59] <mark___> sometimes when i boot, the soundcard appears in the volume control and sometimes it doesn't
[06:59] <mark___> without any reason!
[07:03] <soulrider> hi
[07:03] <soulrider> anyone here, im having some trouble installing kubuntu on this machien.... :/
[07:04] <DaSkreech> soulrider: What's Up?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> !sound
[07:04] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:04] <jordan_> how to log out (what comend) in terminal ?
[07:04] <soulrider> hey, im having some trouble selecting the partitions i wanna install kubuntu to
[07:05] <nnn0> soulrider: is the disk mounted ?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jordan_: What are you asking?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> soulrider: How are you installing?
[07:05] <soulrider> uhm i think so
[07:05] <soulrider> ok heres what im doing
[07:05] <nnn0> soulrider: you have to unmount the disk to partition it and stuff
[07:05] <jordan_> How to logout useing consol(terminal)
[07:05] <soulrider> i cliked on the isnatll button on my desktop
[07:05] <soulrider> im not being able to select the partition i want
[07:06] <soulrider> thast the problem
[07:06] <nnn0> soulrider: try to umount it
[07:06] <jordan_> Driver for it have bug i can't corect log out use kde bar
[07:06] <jordan_> Driver for ATi
[07:06] <soulrider> can i show you a screenshot fo what i wanna do?
[07:06] <soulrider> its really confusing me
[07:06] <waylandbill> soulrider: you using the installer? what is on the screen?
[07:07] <soulrider> ill take a screenie of hte partitions ont he installer
[07:08] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Sorry I'd honestly say if you are having issues with the Desktop CD you use the alternate
[07:09] <soulrider> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4673/snapshot1lc7.jpg
[07:09] <soulrider> whats that i see
[07:09] <soulrider> i wanna use SDA5 for linux and the little one for swap
[07:10] <waylandbill> it won't let you highlight /dev/sda5 in the list box?
[07:11] <soulrider> yes
[07:11] <nnn0> if the partitions are ready you set the mountpoints in the next slide
[07:11] <soulrider> but i will have to sue the windows as swap
[07:11] <soulrider> and i dont wanna do that
[07:11] <soulrider> it wont let me selecs sda6
[07:11] <nnn0> because the disk is mounted
[07:11] <waylandbill> you set the type to ext3. you want the type to be swap I think
[07:12] <nnn0> maybe not
[07:12] <soulrider> i did that i think
[07:12] <waylandbill> the list box shows sda6 being ext3
[07:12] <soulrider> k, let me make it swap
[07:12] <soulrider> k, done
[07:13] <waylandbill> now you should be able to select it for swap
[07:13] <soulrider> weird, i cans elect it now...
[07:13] <soulrider> i feel retarded.....
[07:13] <waylandbill> nah... simple mistake is all.
[07:13] <waylandbill> enjoy
[07:13] <soulrider> thanks!
[07:14] <waylandbill> the screenshot really was worth a thousand words. lol
[07:14] <soulrider> yea, screenshots work
[07:14] <visik7> anyone know if there will any chance to get xgl "integrated" in kde 3.5 ?
[07:16] <marxluz> joina/ #ubuntu
[07:16] <marxluz> join/ #ubuntu
[07:16] <BluesKaj> visik7, I've been waiting for an answer to that question for a while now :)
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> marxluz, you trying to do a /join #channel?
[07:17] <visik7> BluesKaj: I just want a kwin-compiz or something like that
[07:17] <waylandbill> I've not gotten enough desire yet to try xgl. some year maybe I will. :-D
[07:17] <BluesKaj> your here marxluz
[07:17] <sergiusens> visik7: i don't think so, I guess they're gonna just take advantage of "arthur" (qt)
[07:18] <jordan_> #xubuntu-zgl
[07:18] <jordan_> #xubuntu-xgl
[07:18] <BluesKaj> well, that's abit beyond my scope ...compiz baffled me and I scewed up my X
[07:18] <visik7> I'm using kubuntu not xubuntu
[07:20] <DaSkreech> visik7: They wont
[07:20] <visik7> DaSkreech: who ?
[07:20] <BluesKaj> the guys at #xgl weren't paying attn , I hung around there for help for 2 hrs and no one responded
[07:20] <DaSkreech> XGL in kde 3.5
[07:20] <DaSkreech> By definition it's in a freeze
[07:20] <visik7> yes I don't want something official
[07:20] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Tried #ubuntu-xgl
[07:21] <Ademan> hrm my video card won't output through svga to my big screen, i could do this on windows. interestingly enough it seems that it works fine untill X starts, do i need to add a monitor or something to my xconf?
[07:21] <visik7> I just want something not gtk based
[07:21] <DaSkreech> visik7: You can pull the SVN for kwin it has XGl support
[07:21] <visik7> mmm
[07:21] <visik7> but is it qt4 ?
[07:21] <gplfighter> jeekl : updated? same problem here
[07:23] <jeekl> Yes, updated. Amarok plays all sorts of other files, from vorbis to mp3 to m4a and so on, but not flac.
[07:27] <mikearthur> what does "Ign" mean on apt-get update?
[07:27] <visik7> ignoring
[07:27] <mikearthur> why would it be doing that?
[07:27] <mikearthur> Failed to fetch http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  302 Found
[07:28] <mikearthur> any ideas?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Saw the SVN logs for kwin?
[07:31] <hagus> Good evening from bonnie Scotland :)
[07:31] <soulrider> !easysource
[07:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:31] <mikearthur> hagus: evening fellow scotlander
[07:32] <hagus> mikearthur: whilst I enjoy seeing Americans, English folk and others on the web, it is reassuring to see a fellow Scot :)
[07:32] <hagus> I am just starting out with kubuntu
[07:34] <hagus> Whilst the dialogs suggest that I am managing to install my HP1100 printer and that a test page has been successfully printed, no such thing happens.
[07:35] <hagus> Someone very kindly pointed me to a resource FAQ which dealt with such an issue but I could not make much sense of it.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> !print
[07:35] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:36] <DaSkreech> That?
[07:36] <hagus> Aye, it was you, ubotu - ty :)
[07:36] <hagus> I have a printer connected by USB to my machine.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Ubotu is a robot btw
[07:37] <hagus> lol
[07:37] <hagus> told you I was naive :
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Those links are a good read though and should at least help you get some progress
[07:37] <Philip5> hagus: start with a chech it your printer is detected on the usb bus by typing 'lsusb' in a chell
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Bots had me fooled for a good while till I started trying to write one then they got easier to pick out
[07:37] <Philip5> ops, shell
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Having bot in the name doesn't hurt either ;-)
[07:38] <hagus> I have the HPlibs that seem to be required and it claims that it is updating the database of drivers to deal with my printer but it does not detect it automatically.
[07:40] <hagus> is that by typing lsusb in konsole, for instance, Philip5?
[07:41] <hagus> I really am pig ignorant as to how to do much in linux.
[07:42] <neoeno> hey, When I right click the title bar I can access 'special window settings'. Can I access these options (specifically skiptaskbar) from the console? I want to be able to modify them while the program is running, rather than using kstart.
[07:42] <DaSkreech> hagus: Hang out here :) You learn loads
[07:43] <allee> neoeno: try kdcop
[07:43] <neoeno> allee: I've tried, I can't seem to see any mention of it in there though
[07:43] <hagus> I have clicked on USB devices in the KinfoCenter - it shows up hp business inkjet 1100 :)
[07:44] <hagus> Is that the same as pressing lsusb ?
[07:44] <hagus> I mean does that indicate that the printer is being recognised?
[07:50] <allee> neoeno_afk: sorry, no futher ideas
[07:50] <sergiusens> any packages with c++ documentation/manpages?
[07:51] <Philip5> hagus: i guess if that is what you have
[07:51] <hagus> I guess that hp business inkjet 1100 might not be compatible with linux :(
[07:51] <sensei> Which via driver doedapper ship with? openunichome, xorgs own or vias own 'open source' driver?
[07:52] <Philip5> hagus: check on hps site about info on your printer
[07:52] <sensei> open unichrome*
[07:52] <hagus> Ok, ty, Philip5, I am off to do that now.
[07:52] <shadedpast> how do u force an application or program to stop?
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, sudo killall -KILL <process>
[07:53] <sensei> shadedpast: Or if you want to kill a special one (if there's several instances of the same program running) kill -9 pid
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, yea you  can use the pid, (Process ID)
[07:56] <shadedpast> does the process have to be inside <>
[07:56] <shadedpast> cause it doesn't work
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> nolte, replace <process> with the actuall name
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> so sudo killall -KILL xchat
[07:58] <shadedpast> i did and it doesn't work
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to end?
[07:58] <sensei> shadedpast: Things inside <> are required and []  are optional but available
[07:58] <shadedpast> kopete it locked up
[07:58] <sensei> Never read a manpage or a --help? :)
[07:59] <shadedpast> yes i have
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, so you did "sudo killall -KILL kopete"
[07:59] <shadedpast>  i just asked in case
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> sensei, you font have to be a jerk
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> or at  least that came across kinda mean
[07:59] <shadedpast> yes
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but the emoticon saves it!
[07:59] <sensei> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah, I kind of do.. I have a tremendously small penis you see :/
[07:59] <sensei> :)
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> sensei, ah yes I understand
[08:00] <baskew> heh thats funny
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, you can open up KsystemManager
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[08:00] <shadedpast> i typed sudo killall -KILL kopete
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> KSysGuard
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> its in the K menu, under System
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> and open it and use that to kill kopete
[08:01] <shadedpast> thnx that worked
[08:03] <mag_> anyone in here an expert with amarok? im new to linux and i need somehelp
[08:03] <mag_> some help*
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> mag_, whats the problem?
[08:03] <mag_> amarok wont play my mp3 files
[08:04] <Blissex> !restricted
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <Blissex> mag_: you got to read the links above.
[08:04] <mag_> ok thankyou
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> mag_:
[08:05] <locoblade> hey guys
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> mag_: if you use the xine engine then install libxine-extracodecs
[08:05] <locoblade> im trying to open sources.list to unlock repositories
[08:06] <locoblade> and I'm having a problem
[08:06] <locoblade> i type in sudo kate sources.list
[08:07] <locoblade> and what comes up is thats there's a communication problem with kded
[08:07] <locoblade> and that it probably crashed
[08:07] <locoblade> andit wont open the file
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <TheGateKeeper> Run command... kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <locoblade> is there another way to edit sources.list?
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> Run command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  --- ooops
[08:08] <Blissex> locoblade: you are try to start Kate inside the _root_ context.
[08:08] <locoblade> ok
[08:08] <locoblade> well it worked before
[08:08] <Blissex> locoblade: so you are trying to start KDE inside 'root'...
[08:08] <soulrider> !system specs
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about system specs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <locoblade> i'll try what gatekeeper said
[08:08] <soulrider> !system
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about system - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:09] <Blissex> locoblade: can you use 'vi' for example, or add yourself to the 'root' or 'wheel' groups? Consider this only if you already a bit geeky :-)
[08:09] <locoblade> ok kdesu worked
[08:09] <locoblade> im not geeky
[08:09] <locoblade> im doing this by the skin of my teeth lol
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> locoblade: that won't unlock the repos
[08:10] <locoblade> ive forgotten how to update the repositories thing after I unlock them too
[08:10] <Blissex> locoblade: then 'kdesu' is the way to go as <TheGateKeeper> said...
[08:10] <locoblade> whats the difference blissex?
[08:11] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu > locoblade
[08:11] <Blissex> locoblade: it is pretty technical -- 'sudo' switches into 'root' ''totally'', while 'kdesu' switches into 'root' only the privilges.
[08:11] <locoblade> ok
[08:11] <locoblade> easyubuntu, whats that then?
[08:11] <locoblade> and im sure it is greater than me!
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> kdesu is used for gui apps
[08:12] <Blissex> locoblade: when you start KDE, you start a lot of ''helper'' stuff. This is per-user, not per-system...
[08:12] <locoblade> ok
[08:12] <locoblade> cool
[08:12] <locoblade> that easy ubuntu looks great!
[08:15] <gunnar_> hmmm
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> locablade: easyubuntu doesn't do anything special and may break your system (in certain circumstances)
[08:16] <soulrider> this will sound really dumb, but what can i use to view my system specs?
[08:17] <hagus> Should I have a printer "class" defined to get a USB printer to work?
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: hmmm didn't know that it was a bit iffy
[08:17] <cumar> HI, Can anyone help me in configuring firefox to watch CNN news video. I have installed mplayer pluggin but itshows no picture and no sound
[08:17] <locoblade> easyubuntu's working great
[08:18] <locoblade> thanks whoever reccommended it!
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: I can think of one instance where it doesn't handle things in a sane way
[08:18] <Blissex> hagus: pointless... Classes are if you have many printers.
[08:18] <hagus> The printer that I have is discontinued by HP but it is too good to abandon for the sake of linux :(
[08:18] <sensei> hagus: Can't it do post/ghost script prints?
[08:19] <hagus> I do not know how to do these, sensei :)
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: I won't suggest it if it can knacker people's system
[08:19] <petty> any gurus around?   I've just installed kubuntu. Does anybody know why I do NOT have the option "Manage Repositories" in my Adept?
[08:20] <administrator> hello
[08:20] <soulrider> :O
[08:20] <soulrider> Admi
[08:20] <soulrider> administrator:
[08:20] <gekko`_> what's the task knotify for? just to output sounds on errors?
[08:20] <Blissex> petty: running it as 'root'?
[08:20] <Daskreech2> locoblade: Did you try editing them in adept?
[08:20] <TaiChar> now having another name
[08:20] <Blissex> gekko`_: or to pop up messages or sound the fire alarm or ...
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: If someone has an ati card (which should work with the free drivers) or a card only supported by nvidia-legacy using easyubuntu can cause issues that are a pain to get round
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> petty: nope easy workaround Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <Daskreech2> petty: You are running adept under simple mode
[08:21] <petty> no...running as a user....tried to log as root but I have no password...
[08:21] <gekko`_> Blissex: so I shouldn't disable that task?
[08:21] <sydney> :)
[08:21] <Daskreech2> TheGateKeeper: He's running the dumbed down Adept
[08:21] <sydney> hello
[08:21] <Blissex> gekko`_: no, why? pointless. Just disable notifications.
[08:21] <Daskreech2> petty: Want instructions to open it with all options?
[08:21] <bipolar> Is there a reason that flash gives me nothing but a grey box in konq (other then flash sucks...)?
[08:22] <petty> please
[08:22] <bipolar> I hear the sounds, but no video
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: ahhh!
[08:22] <TaiChar> can someone help me? I am not able to mount my ntfs HDDs
[08:22] <Daskreech2> petty: Press Alt+Space
[08:22] <petty> ok
[08:22] <Daskreech2> Type ad and press enter
[08:23] <petty> ok
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: those video cards bite folks in the arse yet again :-)
[08:23] <Daskreech2> It should ask you for a password. That would be your password
[08:23] <petty> ok
[08:23] <cryp> does anyone know what is the kubuntu default font?
[08:23] <Daskreech2> Tell me when adept opens :)
[08:23] <Daskreech2> TaiChar: How many
[08:23] <Daskreech2> damn it
[08:24] <petty> soryy cannot do it right now ...is upgrading....but plese give me all instructions ...i'll do it in 30 minutes
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: There is no reason easyubuntu cannot check the pci ids and do the correct thing (refusing to install anything at all if it is not sure)
[08:25] <cryp> any1? please :/
[08:25] <Daskreech2> petty: Short way is K Menu -> System -> Adept
[08:25] <Daskreech2> petty: Shorter way is longer to write but faster to do
[08:26] <hagus> Bliss, I have never tried to print to postscript or ghostscript.  I have printed a pdf file to give to professional printer but I guess that what you are suggesting is a bit more involved.
[08:26] <Daskreech2> TheGateKeeper: I've grown quite fond of adept
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: just drives me nuts, I can use it, but it just irritates me so I don't
[08:27] <Daskreech2> Why?
[08:27] <hagus> I am not being deliberately awkward - just ignorant :)
[08:28] <Daskreech2> hagus: Understood as long as you are not obnoxious :)
[08:28] <petty> Daskreech2, what do I do after"  It should ask you for a password. That would be your password"  ????
[08:28] <Daskreech2> petty: You put in your password in the passowrd box then adept should open
[08:29] <petty> and then...it should have all options opened?
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: just don't like the interface, and lost trust in it when I managed to get it go into an infinite loop in breezy
[08:29] <Daskreech2> TheGateKeeper: Sweet how did you do that?
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: not exactly sure, probable just a bug somewhere, didn't try repeating it, but it was when I was asking it to install several things all at the same time. I use Synaptic and apt-get depending on what I do, synaptic has always been rock solid (touches wood :-) ) at least so far
[08:32] <Daskreech2> I got Synaptic to throw up once .. don't remember howI fixed it
[08:32] <hagus> Blissex: What I was wondering was whether you were going to give me some pointers as to how to go about doing this postscript stuff?
[08:33] <TheGateKeeper> brb
[08:34] <Blissex> hagus: sorry, I haven't been following, but I could help as an exception. What's your situation now: Printer model? You got CUPS configured in some way? How familiar are you with sysadmin?
[08:34] <hagus> not at all on linux
[08:34] <hagus> I am reasonably familiar with windows
[08:35] <Blissex> hagus: good, which printer is that then?
[08:35] <hagus> HP business inkjet 1100
[08:35] <hagus> It is on a USB
[08:35] <mateusz> Jest kto z Polski
[08:36] <hagus> HP website says that HP1100 has been discontinued by them.
[08:36] <Blissex> hagus: ah that should be fairly easy, virtually all HP inkjets are supported by CUPS one way or another.
[08:36] <Blissex> !polski
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about polski - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <Blissex> !polish
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <Blissex> !poland
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about poland - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <Blissex> hagus: and who cares? CUPS etc. have written their own drivers.
[08:37] <Blissex> hagus: there are actually two different (actually more) drivers for HP inkjets...
[08:37] <Blissex> hagus: how you tried just using the web interface for CUPS and select HP as the make of the inkjet and then selecting 1100 or something similar?
[08:37] <mateusz> Jestem zaamany czy kto mni8e rozumie
[08:37] <DaSkreech> nixternal`back: PIng
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !po
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about po - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:38] <hagus> eek - nope
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !spanish
[08:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:38] <hagus> I just used the wizard and asked for USB
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Oh Cool :)
[08:38] <Blissex> hagus: type in your browser: http://localhost:631/
[08:39] <Blissex> hagus: and then select 'add printer' and log in as 'root'. You need to add a password to 'root' if you haven't already.
[08:39] <hagus> .
[08:39] <sorush20> hi guys, I am running some gnome applications but I don't have gnome installed would this be considered by gnome version if I were to file a bug report ? ii  gnome-bin           1.4.2-30            Miscellaneous binaries used by GNOME
[08:40] <Blissex> sorush20: that would be OK.
[08:41] <hagus> It offers me a chocice of two printers Blissex:
[08:41] <hagus> one with hp/usb in front of it
[08:42] <Blissex> hagus: USB or not does not matter a log as long as you specify the right device name (like '/dev/usblp0')
[08:42] <hagus> Actually there are several offered but only two that mention hp
[08:42] <hagus> OK ty
[08:42] <slow-motion> re
[08:43] <Blissex> hagus: were you at the 'device for it'? If so then select 'usb lp'
[08:43] <nixternal> DaSkreech: pong?
[08:44] <Blissex> hagus: because that is about the output connector, not the manufacturer or model, they get asked next.
[08:44] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Still on the Newsletter comitte type writer thingy?
[08:44] <nixternal> i have no clue..i was just filling in while MG was afk
[08:44] <hagus> hm - it keeps telling me that authentication failed for me as root
[08:44] <nixternal> i have been AFK this week, and now am in the process of getting back into the swing of things
[08:45] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Ah So who do I gnip if I want to find out about UWN #8?
[08:45] <hagus> Should I have a username as root or just a blank or the word "root".  I am confused.
[08:45] <nixternal> #*-doc someone..i will look into it here in a bit
[08:46] <hagus> It does not matter what I enter, it does not like it :(
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Why doesn't Kubuntu have something like this....specifically with Kubuntu images instead of Ubuntu images:  http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/index.php
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Blissex:Helping hagus?
[08:47] <Blissex> DaSkreech: hoping :-)
[08:48] <hagus> Gimme a few minutes plz :)
[08:49] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure but I think hagus might be confused about root. I'm not really following
[08:49] <Blissex> hagus: BTW, just checked and the 1100 is there...
[08:50] <hagus> I am the CUPS site.
[08:50] <Blissex> DaSkreech: I suspect so, and anyhow I suggested use of the CUPS web interface.
[08:50] <hagus> When I fill in the first page questions about the name of printer etc., it takes me to a page which offers me a whole range of choices of connectors or something.
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Isn't Kubuntu right there on the page?
[08:51] <hagus> One of these says: hp business inkjet 1100 USB #1 (hp business inkjet 1100)
[08:52] <hagus> the other says hp:/usb/hp_business_inkjet_1100?serial=CN************* (HP hp_business_inkjet_1100)
[08:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yes, but there are only images that say 'Ubuntu' and none that specifically show that the user is running Kubuntu or Xubuntu or whatever else
[08:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I meant image wise specifically for the variants of *Ubuntu
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: So write to the guys and say here use this along with a nice Kubuntu image :)
[08:54] <hagus> Is that site to which you pointed me one for which I must be already registered, Blissex?
[08:54] <hagus> or is it on my own machine?
[08:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I just did :P
[08:54] <Blissex> hagus: that is not a site, it is just a web interface on your own machine.
[08:55] <hagus> ok ty.
[08:55] <petty> anycody knows the password for superuser (su command in  terminal window ) ???
[08:55] <Blissex> hagus: you must log in as 'root' when prompted.
[08:55] <Blissex> petty: you gotta set it yourself or use 'sudo'
[08:55] <hagus> It is asking me for username
[08:55] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: let me know how that goes :) I'd use one of the Kubuntu stickers
[08:55] <Blissex> hagus: have you set a password for the user 'root'?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> !root > petty
[08:55] <hagus> I do not think that I have come to think of it.
[08:56] <hagus> I have just set the password for hagus.
[08:56] <petty> tx
[08:56] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I definitely will.  Hopefully Melissa will add an image for each seperate derivative of the project
[08:56] <hagus> please forgive me for being so backward on this.
[08:56] <Blissex> hagus: then for the sake of this, open a Konsole and type 'sudo passwd root'
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Melissa?
[08:57] <aliasfred> mel you mean ? :)
[08:57] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Melissa Draper is the one who runs that project
[08:57] <hagus> password updated successfully !
[08:58] <BluesKaj> anyone know a URL that uses Flash , I'd like to test out my install :)
[08:58] <DaSkreech> www.macromedia.com ?
[08:58] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: www.orisinal.com
[08:58] <Blissex> hagus: now type "root" as the user name, and whatever password you chose.
[08:58] <BluesKaj> something with flash based video
[08:59] <hagus> have done that but it tells me I am not authenticated :(
[08:59] <BluesKaj> thx DaSkreech :)
[08:59] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: google video
[09:00] <hagus> Should I pick internet printing protocol rather than the name of the printer?
[09:01] <petty> DaScreech...."!root" is a password for su?   is not working i get "authentification failure"
[09:01] <hagus> Must the password for the user and the root be different?
[09:01] <petty> no
[09:02] <uniq> hagus: must not, but it is good practice.
[09:02] <petty> how do i log in as root?
[09:02] <RogueX> Hello everyone
[09:02] <uniq> petty: login from where? to where?
[09:02] <hagus> I wonder if it could have been to do with adept updater wanting to update?
[09:03] <hagus> I had adept open while I was trying this stuff?
[09:03] <uniq> hagus: why do you want a root password?
[09:03] <petty> login on kubuntu or on a terminal window
[09:03] <RogueX> Does anyone know if there is a setting to let you have the windows remember where they were last opened?
[09:03] <draik> petty, su
[09:03] <petty> su ask for password
[09:03] <draik> petty, type 'su' then hit enter and it will ask for your password
[09:03] <hagus> I am trying to print to my printer, uniq.
[09:04] <petty> my orig passwd not working
[09:04] <uniq> petty: why would you want to do that? all administrative tasks should be done with 'sudo command' if you really want a root shell session, 'sudo -s' works.
[09:04] <petty> get auth failure
[09:04] <uniq> hagus: do you need to login as root to print?
[09:05] <hagus> I have not been able to print at all so I do not know the answer to that question :)
[09:05] <mateusz> Mowi kto po Polsku
[09:05] <petty> how does one login as root?
[09:05] <uniq> draik: on kubuntu systems you can't just run 'su' and type your password, as the root account is disabled by default. You would first have to set a rootpassword with 'sudo passwd root'.
[09:05] <lmodl> hello
[09:05] <Blissex> hagus: if you don't my id in a line it is difficult for me to see your messages...
[09:06] <hagus> Sorry Blissex :)
[09:06] <petty> how do i enable root account?
[09:06] <RogueX> petty: sudo
[09:06] <Blissex> hagus: have you written "root" in the user field of the CUPS form?
[09:06] <root> for login in graphical mode?
[09:06] <petty> plse no sudo....i want to log as root in kubuntu
[09:06] <uniq> petty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:07] <DaSkreech> petty: You don't need to
[09:07] <DaSkreech> petty: You can sudo su
[09:07] <petty> yes i would like to...lol
[09:07] <hagus> yes Blissex :) several times
[09:07] <hagus> I have even changed my root password to make it different from my user pwd and still no joy.
[09:07] <mateusz> Rozumie kto po polsku a nie tylko ten piepszony angielski
[09:08] <Blissex> hagus: and the password you set with 'sudo passwd root' in the ''password'' field.
[09:08] <mateusz> do szkoy nie chodziliscie
[09:08] <DaSkreech> mateusz: What language?
[09:08] <mateusz> po polsku
[09:08] <hagus> yes Blissex - I have tried every combination that I could think of.
[09:08] <DaSkreech> !polish
[09:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Damn :-(
[09:08] <hagus> It forbids me as root and user.
[09:09] <DaSkreech> mateusz: Hold on
[09:09] <draik> uniq, I thought petty already did that
[09:09] <root> i can login as root in graphical mode and i got a different password for it..
[09:09] <Blissex> hagus: open 'Konsole' as normal user and then type 'su root' and then use the password you set. Does this work?
[09:09] <root> as u see
[09:10] <Blissex> root: is that <hagus>?
[09:10] <hagus> I am not the same as root Blissex :)
[09:10] <uniq> hagus: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface
[09:11] <Blissex> uniq: aaaaahhh goos idea.
[09:11] <Blissex> uniq: aaaaahhh good idea.
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Anyone speak polish?
[09:12] <hagus> OK, I shall go and have a look at that and stop frustrating everyone (myself included) :)  I am grateful for the help, if that counts for anything  :)
[09:12] <DaSkreech> hagus: Hang around here and things make more sense... after a while
[09:13] <hagus> I am keen to beat this linux problem but my wife is moaning at me because she used to connect to my printer via windows network.
[09:13] <hagus> So, I am under pressure from her indoors :)
[09:14] <DaSkreech> :-D
[09:14] <DaSkreech> mateusz: nie mog znajdowa polski serwer
[09:14] <hagus> I will catch you folk laterr when I have experimented a bit more.
[09:14] <hagus> Thanks to everyone for patience.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> mateusz: JA bd widzie jeeli mog znajdowa kogo kto (ktry) mwi jzyk polski (blask) dla was
[09:15] <gplfighter> !pl
[09:15] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:15] <hagus> My excuse is that I am 53 years of age - so the grey cells are much greyer and slower on the uptake.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> gplfighter: Doh!
[09:16] <DaSkreech> hagus: Welcome :) I'm the same and I'm like 20 :-)
[09:16] <DaSkreech> !pl > mateusz
[09:20] <RogueX> Does Kubuntu have a themes installer?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:21] <rnisly> does anyone know how to get sound working on a laptop running dapper?
[09:21] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Know where/what it is?
[09:21] <crimsun> rnisly: be more precise regarding your hardware, please?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> System Settings
[09:22] <rnisly> sound card or other stuff
[09:23] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Yes I went there
[09:23] <crimsun> rnisly: right, but /which/ sound card?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Did you search for theme?
[09:24] <adam__> any1 here play runescape? I can't get the sound working on it, I beleive it uses MIDI
[09:24] <rnisly> im not sure its a acer aspire 1640z
[09:24] <rnisly> i'll google
[09:24] <crimsun> rnisly: pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[09:24] <crimsun> adam__: does your sound hardware have midi support included?
[09:25] <adam__> IDK. MIDI worked when I had windows installed....
[09:25] <RogueX> DaSkreech: If your talking about Appearance that is not a theme installer.. I am looking for something like the orginal KDE gives you were it installs a theme package
[09:26] <crimsun> adam__: start by telling what sound hardware you have.
[09:26] <rnisly> intel 82801
[09:27] <crimsun> rnisly: I need all the information that I requested on pastebin, please.
[09:28] <rnisly> won't it ban me if i paste all of it?
[09:28] <Hawkwind> rnisly: pastebin.ca is a website to paste it to
[09:30] <adam__> where do I find out the hardware? could it be NVIDIA GeForce?
[09:32] <rnisly> crimsun : http://pastebin.ca/115706
[09:32] <adam__> In K Menu>System Settings>Sound &Multimedia>Hardware tab>Select your MIDI Device, there's none listed.
[09:33] <adam__> i probably need a driver?
[09:33] <crimsun> adam__: a geforce is a video card. I need to know your /sound/ card.
[09:33] <crimsun> adam__: pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio''
[09:33] <mark___> hey guys I'm having a little trouble installing xmms
[09:33] <mark___> cant find it in the apt-get list
[09:33] <crimsun> mark___: is your main repository enabled? are you using a ubuntu mirror?
[09:33] <mark___> yep
[09:33] <mark___> as far as I know
[09:34] <mark___> maybe I should check
[09:34] <adam__> 0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio (rev c2)
[09:34] <adam__> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio (rev c2)
[09:34] <mark___> lol
[09:34] <mark___> how do I check?
[09:34] <crimsun> adam__: so no, your hardware doesn't have support included. You need to load snd-seq, then start timidity -iA.
[09:34] <crimsun> adam__: ``sudo modprobe snd-seq && timidity -iA''
[09:35] <crimsun> mark___: apt-cache policy xmms |grep 500
[09:35] <mark___> k
[09:35] <crimsun> rnisly: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[09:36] <adam__> bash: timidity: command not found
[09:36] <mark___> that tells me this: 500 http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[09:36] <rnisly> 0: Realtek ALC883
[09:36] <adam__> (i'm new to linux sry)
[09:36] <crimsun> adam__: install it.
[09:36] <crimsun> (use Adept)
[09:37] <crimsun> rnisly: ouch.
[09:37] <crimsun> mark___: good. Now pastebin (don't paste in here) the entire error spew you get when you attempt to install it from the command line.
[09:37] <rnisly> ya...
[09:38] <crimsun> rnisly: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $3 }'
[09:38] <mark___> it'll jyst be a sec cause I'm downloading eclipse at the mo
[09:39] <rnisly> 2.6.15-23.39
[09:40] <mikearthur> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131869 can people please try and check and confirm this bug
[09:40] <crimsun> rnisly: please update to 2.6.15-26.46
[09:40] <rnisly> can i use apt-get?
[09:41] <rnisly> apt-get upgrade kernel
[09:41] <rnisly> ?
[09:41] <crimsun> rnisly: yes, just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:41] <mark_> I have a little problem
[09:41] <mark_> mark@ExternalHD:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:41] <mark_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:41] <mark_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:42] <rnisly> crimsun : after i update my kernel should it work?
[09:42] <dr_willis> you got some other apt program going.
[09:42] <mark_> yeah
[09:42] <crimsun> rnisly: it might. We've had tremendous problems getting the routing on realtek 88xs working correctly.
[09:42] <mark_> i cancelled eclipse downloading halfway thru so I could get onto xmms
[09:42] <rnisly> ok
[09:43] <mark_> is eclipse still downloading?
[09:43] <Hawkwind> Anyone know what's up with archive.ubuntu.com today ?
[09:43] <uniq> mark_: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock' will ask you if you want to kill whatever process locking.
[09:43] <crimsun> Hawkwind: bandwidth problems at the London DC. Use a mirror. It won't be fixed for several more days (~week).
[09:43] <mark_> ok ty
[09:44] <Hawkwind> crimsun: What would you suggest using or where can I get a list of mirrors ?
[09:44] <tangmubai> hello. is somewhere a fixed krusader package, witch did not cras when on dir contains duplicate filenames (with different case) ?
[09:44] <mark_> uniq how do i learn stuff like that?
[09:44] <crimsun> Hawkwind: there's a wiki page for mirrors.
[09:44] <mark_> instead of bothering you guys?
[09:44] <sepp> .
[09:45] <crimsun> Hawkwind: additionally, kubuntu.org packages are mirrored.
[09:45] <adam__> ya  thought DOS had some weird commands.......where do i learn linux commands?
[09:45] <Hawkwind> crimsun: So something like us.archive.ubuntu.com should work ok ?
[09:45] <dr_willis> adam__,  google  is your friend.
[09:45] <mark_> i had a great big book that came with dos
[09:45] <dr_willis> adam__,  and linux's shell (bash) and so on makes much more sence then dos ever did.
[09:45] <mark_> had all the commands there
[09:46] <dr_willis> mark_,   oodles of bash tutorials out there. :P
[09:46] <damel> a good ftp client ?
[09:46] <Hawkwind> damel: ftp from CLI, gFTP, kftpgrabber, prozilla, kbear
[09:46] <dr_willis> damel,  define 'good' :) vs.. just works..
[09:47] <damel> .)
[09:47] <uniq> mark_: well.. you can buy a semi-advanced linux/unix book. Search the web for linux/unix commandline tips and tricks. or stay in here asking questions and looking at answers to others :)
[09:47] <damel> lol
[09:47] <damel> thanks
[09:47] <bigbill52a> how do you over ride the log in manager for kdm?
[09:47] <uniq> damel: 'yafc' and 'lftp' for console ftp apps :)
[09:48] <uniq> bigbill52a: override how?
[09:48] <bigbill52a> i have tried changing it...but it is shure stubborn
[09:48] <bigbill52a> so you can have a different background, etc
[09:48] <dr_willis> thers a gui/setting/preferance program in the menus somewhre  for kde.
[09:49] <damel> thanks
[09:49] <bigbill52a> they dont over ride the dern thing
[09:49] <adam__> draik: i'm not a registered user I guess cause it blocks my messages in private chat
[09:49] <dr_willis> Then ya are doing somthing very odd... they work fine for me.. you are enablign the administrator mode?
[09:49] <draik> Sorry adam__
[09:49] <bigbill52a> yes
[09:49] <draik> Let me list them again for you
[09:50] <adam__> no  i was getting ur messages I got them.
[09:50] <draik> This compares DOS to Unix commands  http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[09:50] <draik> That's a good start
[09:50] <adam__> but where do i register?
[09:50] <draik> !register > adam__
[09:50] <uniq> bigbill52a: open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc in a editor. go to line 450 and uncomment it. (add # at the very start of the line)
[09:51] <uniq> bigbill52a: now you've disabled the kubuntu theme on KDM.
[09:51] <draik> This link shows you all the commands, well most of them anyway... http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/
[09:51] <bigbill52a> thanks
[09:51] <draik> Here's another good one... http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[09:51] <dek> my Kubuntu doesn't recognize 2 of my NTFS partitions, what should I do?
[09:51] <dek> it's like they didn't exist, impossible to mount
[09:52] <draik> This is basics... http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html
[09:52] <adam__> k thanks draik that should be enough for now
[09:52] <draik> Kew. That's all I had anyway
[09:53] <htraki> hello to all
[09:54] <draik> dr_willis, google is the good friend. google.com/linux is a better friend
[09:54] <jollyroger> Can someone help me with the adept installer?
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> dek: have you consulted the ntfs howto's on the ubuntu forums?
[09:55] <dek> nope, lemme check
[09:55] <draik> jollyroger, what's wrong with your adept installer?
[09:55] <jollyroger> well, i cant even mark the packages i want to install..
[09:55] <jollyroger> it seems like it dont connect at all..
[09:55] <dr_willis> you ran it as root with sudo?
[09:56] <draik> you mean you have a lag or you can't select the packages?
[09:56] <bigbill52a> theme =    comment that line?
[09:56] <jollyroger> i tryed both that and login as root in graphical mode (i enabled that)
[09:56] <jollyroger> the packages are greymarked..
[09:57] <htraki> jollyroger:what site is set up in sources.list?
[09:57] <jollyroger> and the list is not updated..
[09:57] <draik> apt-get update
[09:57] <draik> apt-get upgrade
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> jollyroger: you should have a dialog appear asking you for your password when you start adept from the menu system
[09:57] <bigbill52a> should i change line 446 to false
[09:57] <draik> TheGateKeeper, I don't have a PW pop-up. Disabled it
[09:58] <htraki> apt-get update is the right command
[09:58] <jollyroger> do i have to reboot or something afterwards?
[09:58] <jollyroger> cause it dont work anyway..
[09:58] <TheGateKeeper> draik: you run as root?
[09:58] <draik> nope
[09:58] <jollyroger> Y
[09:58] <htraki> no,just restart adept
[09:59] <jollyroger> well, that didnt work..
[09:59] <draik> TheGateKeeper, I edited my /etc/sudoers file
[09:59] <rr72> who listens to in flames?
[10:00] <MikeMcA> Hi. Noob here, running kubuntu dapper.  I'm trying to find the python2.4-profiler package, which I've been told is only available from a "non-free repo."  Is there a specific repository I need to add or do I need to hunt around to find a specific one that has the package I want?  Thanks.
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[10:00] <rr72> jollyroger~ what does touch of red mean or representis?
[10:01] <jollyroger> touch of red?
[10:01] <rr72> *represent
[10:01] <rr72> oops
[10:01] <Dinofly> MikeMcA: activate universe, multiverse and "commercial" repos using adept
[10:02] <htraki> MikeMCA: I paste my sources.list I use,add in adept
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-proposed main restricted multiverse universe
[10:04] <MikeMcA> htraki: thanks
[10:04] <ThunderStruck> htraki: dont paste in here please
[10:04] <htraki> Apply and refresh
[10:04] <jollyroger> i've restarted adept in root(graphmode) but the same problem appears..
[10:04] <mark_> guys
[10:04] <MikeMcA> htraki: I see now what I was missing: I didn't realize you could add universe and multiverse components to each of the distribution categories.
[10:04] <MikeMcA> Awesome, thanks
[10:05] <mark_> im stuck trying to install a gmail notifier
[10:05] <draik> mark_ for firefox?
[10:05] <mark_> i have a folder with a few files in it
[10:05] <htraki> good luck
[10:05] <mark_> i think it's standalone
[10:05] <rnisly> mark_ did you try kcheckgmail?
[10:05] <mark_> it'll open whatever browser you want
[10:05] <mark_> ohh i'll do that
[10:05] <rnisly> ok
[10:05] <draik> mark_ I have mine installed from the firefox extension
[10:06] <mark_> looks like problem solved
[10:06] <mark_> brbr
[10:07] <RogueX> I just downloaded .deb files can someone tell me what program to use to install?
[10:07] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[10:07] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:07] <draik> RogueX, just do 'sudo dpkg -i <package_name>'
[10:08] <dr_willis> read up on apt-get and the use of it.. 'dpkg -i whatever.deb' if you are luck will work
[10:08] <RogueX> Thanks
[10:08] <dr_willis> :P
[10:08] <htraki> RougeX: dpkg -i command as root
[10:08] <draik> np
[10:09] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:09] <mark_> that kgmail thing is working thanks
[10:09] <RogueX> I ftp libdvdcss2 because it seems that PLF is down.  I hope I am doing this right :)
[10:10] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: sure you have the correct url?
[10:11] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I  got it in my sources.list file
[10:11] <htraki> RogueX: no libdvdcss 4 dapper
[10:11] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > gatekeeper
[10:11] <RogueX> htraki: I dont know...
[10:12] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I dont know that.. can you explain??
[10:12] <htraki> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats to get help
[10:13] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: This is what I got.  deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: should look like that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19719
[10:14] <mark_> ok last question
[10:14] <mark_> if I have a keyboard with play stop fast forward buttons, can I get that to work with xmms?
[10:15] <mark_> easily i mean
[10:15] <mark_> lol if it's complicated I dont want to know
[10:15] <rnisly> mark_  you can use klinekd with amarok not sure about xmms
[10:15] <htraki> thx TheGateKeeper 4 the package
[10:16] <mark_> i'll try that
[10:16] <TheGateKeeper> htraki: yw :-)
[10:17] <mark_> where can I find klinekd?
[10:17] <rnisly> adept :P
[10:17] <rnisly> klineakd.sourceforge.net i think
[10:17] <mark_> ohh
[10:17] <mark_> duh
[10:18] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: this is what I get when I try to get libdvdcss2 from adept manager - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> rnisly: 404 error
[10:18] <rnisly> mark_: lineak.sourceforge.net
[10:19] <htraki> RougeX: use the url in browser
[10:19] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:19] <RogueX> htraki: Dont understand..
[10:20] <htraki> I paste the link 4 libdvdcss
[10:20] <DaSkreech> Can you recover deleted flies from aext3 FS?
[10:21] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I put thosThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.e lines in sources.list and no change... same error message
[10:21] <htraki> Do U use dapper?
[10:22] <RogueX> htraki: Yes I am
[10:22] <htraki> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/free/libdvdcss2/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.deb
[10:24] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: don't like the sound of that, not sure why that sould be happening, you could try modifying your sources.list then try sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories just correct PLF repos as per http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19719
[10:24] <Jack1> hi
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: htraki plan sounds better go with that
[10:25] <Jack1> how can i make the font in the konqueror panel smaller (where it says location, edit,view,..)?
[10:26] <htraki> RogueX says nothing,is he still here?
[10:26] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: Got error
[10:26] <RogueX> I put the repo in sources.list
[10:26] <RogueX> thats the error I got.
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: did you try htraki's method??
[10:27] <RogueX> htraki: I just got your file going to try it now
[10:27] <htraki> OK
[10:27] <ccc__> Jack1: the menu? system settings > appearance > fonts > menu
[10:29] <RogueX> htraki: looks like it installed
[10:29] <htraki> Cool,try to play an crypted DVD
[10:30] <Jack1> system settings > appearance > fonts only for webpages not for the menu
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: what does this command return? cat /etc/issue
[10:30] <RogueX> it works!
[10:30] <RogueX> yeah  dvd plays
[10:31] <htraki> then libdvdcss works
[10:31] <dein> 3.5.4 is working now?
[10:31] <XVampireX> !headers
[10:31] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:31] <XVampireX> hmm
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> dein: yes allegedly
[10:31] <XVampireX> I need kde headers to install kbfx
[10:31] <soulrider> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: what does this command return? cat /etc/issue
[10:31] <dein> anyone know about its stability compared to 3.5.3?
[10:31] <ccc__> Jack1: not sure i understand you. that font settings changes the menu fonts.
[10:32] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: /etc/issue  ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[10:32] <bl3ssing> hello guys, how're you doing?
[10:32] <bl3ssing> :)
[10:32] <htraki> hello bl3ssing
[10:32] <dein> not to mention, is it faster than 3.5.3?
[10:32] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: that's ok just checking, sources.list all say dapper not breezy?
[10:32] <bl3ssing> htraki, are'u ok?
i want to chnage the panel font size but in he settings only the fonts for webpages and filebrowsing are adaptable
[10:33] <bl3ssing> which's the best java IDE for linux? does anybody know?
[10:33] <htraki> Im all right, How do U do?
[10:33] <hagus> I am pleased to report success after studying the advice received in this channel.  I can now print to my printer.  Hurray!
[10:34] <Jack1> is opera recommendable over konqeror as web browser?
[10:34] <XVampireX> Yeah, it's pretty good
[10:34] <bl3ssing> hagus, this channel's really helpful. I wanted to update my Kubuntu from the older vers. to the newest ... and I did it. :D
[10:34] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: I am talking out of ignorance here but don't most use eclipse?
[10:34] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I still show problem that started all this..  libdvdcss2 - conflict: libdvdcss0.0.1
[10:34] <ccc__> Jack1: i'm talking about "system settings" in the k-menu, which alters your global settings (including konqueror). not the one in konqueror.
[10:34] <hagus> Firefox is jolly good too imho :)
[10:34] <htraki> As good know IBM has IDE 4 linux
[10:34] <ccc__> Jack1: i prefer opera, but konqueror is good :) both are way faster than for example firefox
[10:35] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, but? ...
right but i cannot adapt the size onlyin konqui can i?
[10:35] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: so now I cant update or remove libdvdcss2
[10:35] <Jack1> konqi should start up faster than firefox as a genuine kde thing is this right?
[10:35] <bl3ssing> any music composing software in linux? I mean .. the best? :)
[10:35] <Jack1> than opera i mean
[10:36] <htraki> RougeX: tried dpkg --purge command
[10:36] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: have you synaptic installed?
[10:36] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: yes
[10:37] <DaSkreech> hagus: Make sure your wife gives you a kiss :)
[10:37] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: There is an article on it on ars technica
[10:37] <hagus> I want to be able to share my printer with others on my wired home network.  Now that I managed to communicate with the printer, what do I do?  lol DaSkreech :)
[10:37] <bl3ssing> what's a ars technica?
[10:37] <htraki> Dont know any music creator prg
[10:37] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, what's a ars technica?
[10:37] <hagus> She will not give me the kiss until I let her print from my printer :)
[10:37] <Jack1> technical art?
[10:37] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Gimmie a moment
[10:38] <RogueX> htraki: I ran command but it says file isnt installed but Adept manager and synaptic says they are
[10:38] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: go with htraki suggestion , but you could start up synaptic, see if there are any broken packages and either reinstall or remove
[10:38] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, sure. :)
[10:38] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I ran command but it says file isnt installed but Adept manager and synaptic says they are
[10:39] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars
[10:39] <htraki> RougeX: dpkg --list libdvdcss
[10:39] <RogueX> It seems as though all the package managers think there are files installed when there really is not.  Anyway to fix that?
[10:40] <RogueX> htraki:  un  libdvdcss      <none>         (no description available)
[10:40] <htraki> dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss
[10:40] <RogueX> ii  libdvdcss2                             1.2.9-1plf4                             portable abstraction library for DVD decrypt
[10:41] <DaSkreech> hagus: There was a document on it....
[10:41] <htraki> I think there isnt any other dvdcss
[10:41] <RogueX> htraki: OK I am pretty sure the problem now is that dpkg thinks there are files installed on the system when they are not
[10:42] <htraki> Did U see that the dpkg says setting up libdvdcss after install
[10:43] <Jack1> could i copy my bookmarks from konqi in opera ? would it work?
[10:43] <RogueX> htraki: dpkg thinks the files libdvdcss0.0.1 and libdvdcss0.0.2 are installed but they are not.  I did a file search on the whole system and they are not found
[10:43] <Hawkwind> Jack1: Doubtful as it probably uses a different layout
[10:43] <Hawkwind> Jack1: You might be able t export them from Opera though, not sure
[10:44] <htraki> In /usr/lib dir by hand?
[10:44] <DaSkreech> hagus: I think it might be at the CUPS site
[10:44] <hagus> ah ok ty DaSkreech :)
[10:44] <RogueX> htraki: yes those 2 files are not installed even though Adept Manager and Synaptic says they are
[10:45] <Hawkwind> RogueX: Did you do a sudo updatedb *before* searching for the files on your system ?
[10:45] <RogueX> htraki: Any way to clear them?
[10:45] <Jack1> there is an option import from konqu. but it doesnt show me the hidden folders and the bookmars are in the hidden folder .kde
[10:45] <htraki> Then U have to create those files with links
[10:45] <Jack1> how to show that?
[10:46] <htraki> Tried dpkg --purge libdvdcss2
[10:47] <Jack1> ah ok its cool
[10:47] <Jack1> import from konqueror then open home/usrname/.kde/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[10:47] <RogueX> htraki: Just ran that command
[10:48] <RogueX> htraki: I assume I need to try and reinstall?
[10:48] <Jack1> however konqui has this nice amarok plugin
[10:48] <Hawkwind> Jack1: So you got your bookmarks now ?
[10:48] <htraki> I dont know?!
[10:48] <BluesKaj> OK, it looked like my konsol install of DeCSS was successful but it does show up in synaptic even after updating and upgrading apt ...is there another way to see if DeCSS is installed ?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> doesn't show up
[10:49] <soulrider> !nonfree
[10:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about nonfree - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:49] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: dpkg -l DeCSS
[10:49] <soulrider> !mp3
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Assuming that is the actual name of the app.  Might just be decss or something similar
[10:49] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: how long ago did you install dapper, fresh install or upgrade?
yes it works fine actually using konqueror has many advantages
[10:50] <draik> Is there a way of knowing the install date of Kubuntu?
[10:50] <RogueX> htraki: I am back to the same thing again.. LOL  Adept says libdvdcss2 not installed and cant because of confilict
[10:50] <Jack1> just opera works better with those flash things and stuff
[10:50] <rr72> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
i read that
[10:50] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I just installed last week
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: can you play dvds?
[10:51] <rr72> Jack1~ that was for my own reading
ok sry i thought that was response
[10:51] <rr72> i don't even know u had a question, im not here, im playing a game
[10:51] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: not since I ran the purge command
[10:51] <DaSkreech> rr72: please stop doing that in the channel play with the bot in /msg
[10:52] <htraki> RogueX:Command line never fails
[10:52] <DaSkreech> rr72: Bots get lonely too :)
[10:52] <rr72> DaSkreech~ that ws my first time "playing" with that bot
[10:52] <htraki> use dpkg
[10:52] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: is there anyway to fix dpkg's index list of what is installed?
[10:52] <Hawkwind> LOL DaSkreech
[10:52] <rr72> i have 3 bots and they all do nothing, they are just code they can't get lonely
[10:52] <RogueX> htraki: what was that suggestion to making the files?
[10:52] <rr72> can i get source code for opera?
[10:53] <htraki> dpkg --pending
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Yeah but if it's confusing people in the channel it's not helping. You can play with it in /msg
[10:53] <gnomefre1k> rr72: no
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: beyond my current knowledge sorry :-(
[10:53] <rr72> gnomefre1k~ :(
[10:53] <rr72> DaSkreech~ i wasnt playing
[10:53] <rr72> gnomefre1k~ any specific reason or no?
[10:53] <gnomefre1k> rr72: its closed source
[10:54] <rr72> that would be a good reason
[10:54] <gnomefre1k> brb
[10:54] <rr72> ty gnomefre1k
[10:54] <RogueX> htraki: dpkg --pending... needs action item
[10:57] <htraki> add --purge after pending
[10:59] <RogueX> I ran it
[11:02] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, did you find out which's the best of the audio programs in linux?
[11:03] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Did you read the article?
[11:05] <mmorris> Is anyone here answering questions?
[11:06] <mmorris> Hello???
[11:06] <DaSkreech> mmorris: No
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Doh! I just naswered one
[11:06] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: first you have to ask one :-)
[11:06] <mmorris> oh
[11:06] <uniq> mmorris: shoot.
[11:06] <uniq> :)
[11:07] <mmorris> I am brand spankin new to Kubuntu...but I was told about XGL, where can I find this at?
[11:07] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Might want to finish with the spanking before that :)
[11:07] <mmorris> ha ha
[11:07] <mmorris> spanking is over with...
[11:07] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[11:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:08] <DaSkreech> The last URL
[11:08] <DaSkreech> It will break stuff you have been warned
[11:09] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Know anything about how to fix dpkg?
[11:09] <DaSkreech> What's broken?
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: not officially supported to you might want to learn to walk before you try to run, there are also other channels if you need help with xgl like #ubuntu-xgl
[11:09] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Adept says 2 files are install that are really not installed
[11:10] <mmorris> okay... thanks
[11:10] <DaSkreech> really?
[11:10] <DaSkreech> Which two
[11:10] <RogueX> DaSkreech: yes... and inturn it wont let me install packages
[11:11] <RogueX> DaSkreech: because of conflict
[11:11] <DaSkreech> have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:11] <uniq> RogueX: what packages are you talking about? and what files?
[11:11] <RogueX> DaSkreech: just did now...   lol
[11:13] <RogueX> uniq: I have 2 files libdvdcss0.0.1 and libdvdcss0.0.2 NOT on system but Adept and Synaptic thinks they are so I can not install libdvdcss2 because of conflict with the 2 no existent files
[11:13] <DaSkreech> RogueX: Worked?
[11:14] <uniq> RogueX: if adept and synaptic think they are, did you try to remove them?
[11:14] <RogueX> DaSkreech: no  :( still listed
[11:14] <RogueX> uniq: how do you remove somthing thats not there?
[11:14] <uniq> RogueX: tried to remove them with 'sudo dpkg -P libdvdcss0.0.1' ?
[11:15] <uniq> RogueX: well.. adept/synaptic/dpkg doesn't just make up installed packaged.
[11:15] <uniq> packages.. that is.
[11:15] <RogueX> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libdvdcss0.0.1 which isn't installed.
[11:15] <uniq> ok, what's the error when you try to install libdvdcss2 then?
[11:18] <Ertain> Every time I download the ManDVD archive for the latest release, Ark can't open it.
[11:19] <RogueX> uniq: Synaptic installed it.. finally.. some progress..
[11:20] <RogueX> uniq: But Adept Manager still reports conflict.  eventhough its installed
[11:20] <uniq> what conflict? error message please.
[11:20] <bl3ssing> yes
[11:20] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, YES!
[11:20] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, rosegarden is the ONE?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> So grab the one that speaks to you and try it out :)
[11:21] <mmorris> If I install a program from Adept, how does that work?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Which program?
[11:21] <nizoral> ciao a tutti ho un problema con firefox scaricc.. con apt-get potete aiutarmi??? grazie
[11:22] <mmorris> that 3d thing
[11:22] <DaSkreech> !es
[11:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:22] <RogueX> uniq: does not give error message just shows " conflict : libdvdcss0.0.1
[11:22] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Ah XGL and compiz?
[11:22] <mmorris> well, just 3d desktop
[11:22] <mmorris> i don't want to try the real thing yet
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Ahhhm hold on
[11:22] <mmorris> lol
[11:23] <uniq> RogueX: ok, what if you try to do something with apt-get in konsole?
[11:23] <mmorris> okay
[11:23] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Oh that thing. It gives you an applet so that you have a button the taskbar
[11:23] <RogueX> uniq: I think I am going to give up and worry about it when it breaks again.  It is only a problem when an update comes out then I cant install the update
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Then you press it and your desktop goes 3D
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Well the switcher goes 3D
[11:24] <mmorris> where is the button?
[11:24] <mmorris> I dont see it
[11:25] <RogueX> uniq: Thank you
[11:25] <mmorris> DaScreech - where is the button that it gives me?
[11:25] <DaSkreech> mmorris: As I recall Right click the taskbar and select add applet
[11:26] <mmorris> which applet is it?
[11:26] <mmorris> I dont see it in there
[11:27] <rmw75> need help with wireless card
[11:28] <mmorris> DaScreech: which applet do I add?  I dont see it in the list6
[11:28] <mmorris> list
[11:28] <DaSkreech> HOld on
[11:28] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Can You open a konsole?
[11:28] <mmorris> yea
[11:29] <DaSkreech> type 3ddesk
[11:29] <mmorris> oh, okay
[11:29] <DaSkreech> It worked?
[11:29] <mmorris> so, everytime I want to do that, I have to type that command in?
[11:30] <mmorris> yeah, it worked... but it was so small, I couldn't see the screen... that just turned the desktops
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Nope add a non KDE menu launcher applet
[11:30] <DaSkreech> You can adjust the distance
[11:31] <rmw75> need help with wireless card
[11:31] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[11:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:31] <mmorris> DaSkreech:  what do I type in this Non-KDE Application?
[11:31] <rmw75> it's installed right just not activating
[11:32] <scott> hiya folks
[11:32] <scott> any got any tips for a new Linux user on using K9 copy
[11:32] <mmorris> DaSkreech: you here?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> You can name the top too anything that you like
[11:32] <DaSkreech> the thrid one is 3ddesk in quotes
[11:32] <DaSkreech> "3ddesk"
[11:32] <mmorris> executable?
[11:32] <scott> I have a dvd of my holiday that a friend put together and it is encryted and will not actually make further copies
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Yes
[11:33] <mmorris> then what?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> You can press the button with the gears to choose a new icon if you like
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Then I think you can press ok
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Then use that button
[11:34] <mmorris> How can I adjust the distance?
[11:34] <DaSkreech> Erm
[11:34] <mmorris> What is Erm?
[11:35] <mmorris> you may not even be talking to me...
[11:35] <DaSkreech> I think there is a config file
[11:35] <mmorris> where would that be at, and what would it be called?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> look in ~/.3ddesktop
[11:35] <scott> I am told it is like shrink but it does not seem to work the same way
[11:36] <mmorris> where would that be DaSkreech?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[11:36] <DaSkreech> ~ is your home folder
[11:36] <mmorris> I didn't see one there
[11:36] <DaSkreech> and a . means that it's a hidden folder
[11:37] <DaSkreech> So look in the view menu and show hidden folders
[11:37] <mmorris> sorry, I see it
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Though I'm thinking maybe not...
[11:37] <mmorris> All it has is a file in it called pid
[11:37] <DaSkreech> ok
[11:37] <mmorris> I open pid and all I get is a 6024
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Still have the konsole open?
[11:38] <mmorris> yes
[11:38] <DaSkreech> type man 3ddesk
[11:38] <DaSkreech> That should give you a manual you can read
[11:38] <shadedpast>  Help neither of my cd drives are displayed in media
[11:39] <shadedpast> it wont register them when inserted either it says file cannot be found
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Does your cdroms turn up in the system settings?
[11:40] <shadedpast> no
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Hrmm
[11:41] <DaSkreech> And they turn up in the BIOS?
[11:41] <shadedpast> o they apear in system settings
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Do they have any error messages?
[11:41] <shadedpast> no
[11:42] <DaSkreech> This is under Disks and filesystems?
[11:42] <shadedpast> ???
[11:43] <shadedpast> o yes
[11:43] <mmorris> DaSkreech... I hate to be a bother, but I don't understand that stuff...
[11:43] <DaSkreech> mmorris: What does it say?
[11:43] <DaSkreech> Ok does it say disabled?
[11:43] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Does it say disabled?
[11:43] <mmorris> it looks like it gives me a list of commands, but they don't mean anything to me...
[11:43] <mmorris> lol
[11:43] <shadedpast> no
[11:43] <shadedpast> it shows up normal
[11:44] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: have you tried moutning them yourself?
[11:44] <DaSkreech> mmorris: ok What don't you understand about them?
[11:44] <shadedpast> but under media all that appears is my floppy
[11:44] <shadedpast> how?
[11:44] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Want to do a quick dirty test?
[11:45] <shadedpast> sure
[11:45] <mmorris> Well, first of all I dont know which one is supposed to adjust the zoom, and second, if I did know, I wouldn't know how to use them... they all do the same thing.  I know I'm doing something wrong
[11:45] <shadedpast> next to them it doesn't say disabled or enabled
[11:45] <DaSkreech> Make a dir in your home folder called CDROM
[11:45] <shadedpast> k
[11:46] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Someone told me that there is a configuration file. See if they mention one in the manual just scan past the commands stuff
[11:46] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: From the konsole type sudo mount /dev/cdrom ~/CDROM
[11:46] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Do you read tihngs easier in the browser?
[11:47] <soulrider> hi
[11:47] <DaSkreech> hi
[11:47] <soulrider> whats a good aprtition manager i can use to reformat an unformated partition ?
[11:47] <mmorris> I see there is supposed to be a file called /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf
[11:47] <DaSkreech> gparted
[11:47] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Sweet :-)
[11:48] <DaSkreech> Ok can you open that in a text editor?
[11:48] <shadedpast> it says block device /dev/cdrom is write protected
[11:48] <mmorris> where is etc?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Erm Yeah I guess. Is it a blank CD?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Under /
[11:48] <shadedpast> no
[11:48] <shadedpast> it's starcraft
[11:49] <DaSkreech> AH :)
[11:49] <shadedpast> broodwar
[11:49] <DaSkreech> It works under Wine?
[11:49] <mmorris> so, let me get this straight... in order to find a file in Kubuntu, you just type the file name in the address bar?
[11:49] <DaSkreech> You could do that
[11:50] <soulrider> theres somethign that is nto letting adept instyall programs, how can i know what it is? ia lready checked adn there are no instances of adept running
[11:51] <DaSkreech> soulrider: how did you check
[11:51] <soulrider> ksysguard
[11:51] <soulrider> i went to konsole now
[11:51] <soulrider> and i did
[11:51] <soulrider> dpkg --configure -a
[11:51] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: what's up?
[11:51] <soulrider> apparently there were some stiff waiting to be insatlled
[11:51] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-)
[11:51] <shadedpast> it doesn't work yet
[11:51] <mmorris> DaSkreech: what do I do now???   :)
[11:51] <mmorris> sorry
[11:51] <DaSkreech> Where are you at?
[11:51] <shadedpast> me
[11:51] <DaSkreech> You opened the file?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Yeah.
[11:52] <DaSkreech> You tried to mount it from the command line?
[11:52] <mmorris> yea, but can't make changes, and not sure I knew what changes to make if I could
[11:52] <shadedpast> but it does appear under dev but it won't let me open
[11:52] <mmorris> are you talking to me about the command line mount?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Yeah you can't open a dev file that's for the computer
[11:52] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Nope
[11:52] <mmorris> okay
[11:52] <mmorris> sorry
[11:52] <shadedpast>  o ok
[11:53] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[11:53] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Read the file and see if the file makes any sense to you
[11:53] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Oh You know what? try man 3ddesktop.conf
[11:53] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: so now what
[11:53] <mmorris> DaSkreech: It says that depth-how far to zoom out
[11:53] <mmorris> I can't make any changes though
[11:53] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: What did the sudo mount command give you?
[11:53] <mmorris> okay, trying right now
[11:54] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Ok That's what you need to change then
[11:54] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: it said it mounted as read only
[11:54] <mmorris> how do I change it?
[11:54] <shadedpast> DaSkreech:  as i said before
[11:54] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Did you try opening the CDROM folder you made?
[11:54] <shadedpast> DaSkreech:  no
[11:54] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Try that
[11:54] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: ah it reads the disk
[11:55] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-)
[11:55] <shadedpast> it's there
[11:55] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: it's there
[11:55] <mmorris> how can I make changes in this .conf file
[11:55] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: is it possible for it to work normally?
[11:55] <soulrider> err, i got 3 NTFS partitions and sudo fdisk -l|grep NTFS is showing only one :/
[11:56] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Yes I should think so. I'm not sure how to diagnose it right now though
[11:56] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: o ok
[11:56] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: If you ask in here at an earlier time I'm sure you'd get help
[11:56] <DaSkreech> mmorris: You may have to open it with a sudo
[11:57] <DaSkreech> mmorris: In the konsole type kdesu kate /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf
[11:57] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: like around eight
[11:57] <shadedpast> DaSkreech: ???
[11:58] <DaSkreech> Umm . :-) I don't know what the time is now for you but if you like you can hang around here and ask when it gets busier
[11:58] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Should ask you for a password
[11:58] <mmorris> I alredy changed the depth
[11:58] <shadedpast> DaSkreech:  o yeah duh, ok
[11:58] <mmorris> is that all I do?
[11:58] <mmorris> now should it be different?
[11:59] <mmorris> still the same
[11:59] <mmorris> DaSkreech: I think maybe I am supposed to use a command to change the depth
[12:00] <mmorris> Is there a way I can send you this file to see if you can make heads or tails out of it?
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Yes
[12:00] <DaSkreech> !paste
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:00] <mmorris> In here?
[12:00] <DaSkreech> use that site
[12:00] <mmorris> what site?
[12:00] <DaSkreech> !paste >  mmorris
[12:01] <DaSkreech> nixternal_: Hey Bro
[12:01] <DaSkreech> mmorris: The one the bot just sent you
[12:01] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: How goes?
[12:01] <nixternal_> arg
[12:01] <DaSkreech> nixternal_: Issues?
[12:01] <nixternal_> my other machine is trashed..and i don't know if it is kernel or kde 3.5.4
[12:02] <nixternal_> kde 3.5.4 will not run now..and it had been previously until i just did an update
[12:03] <mmorris> DaSkreech...did you get it?
[12:03] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Paste the link here
[12:03] <DaSkreech> The URL that you get in the browser :)
[12:04] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Did you just try to paste the file here?
[12:07] <thompa> does anyone know what the latest kernel image update for amd64 is for?