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| ryanakca | what line do you add to rules to install man pages? "cp man.1 /usr/share/man/man1/"? | 12:19 |
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| crimsun | see dh_installman(1) | 12:20 |
| crimsun | (and no, the above cp would have to be relative to the cwd, which generally means debian/$package/usr/share/man/man$section/ | 12:21 |
| crimsun | ) | 12:21 |
| ryanakca | kk... and man.1 goes in debian/ ? | 12:23 |
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| crimsun | debian/$package/usr/share/man/man$section/ | 12:23 |
| allee | crimsun: read your motu-school logs. Good intro! | 12:23 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: I though dh_installman installed the manpage into the appropriate directory... so just put it in debian/ ? or do I have to create those directories and manually install? | 12:25 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: pick a method. Either use dh_installman(1), or use cp. | 12:26 |
| ryanakca | dh_installman | 12:27 |
| crimsun | then forget the cp. You can either pass the name of the man page to dh_installman, or you can list it in debian/binary_package.manpages | 12:27 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 12:32 |
| ryanakca | g'd evening ajmitch | 12:33 |
| ryanakca | is it just me or is archive.ubuntu.com slow today? | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | it probably is | 12:34 |
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| ajmitch | hi raphink | 12:35 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: bandwidth issues in London; use a mirror | 12:36 |
| ryanakca | ah | 12:36 |
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| crimsun | unlikely to help, as that's the same as archive. | 12:36 |
| crimsun | use de,nl,ch | 12:37 |
| crimsun | (apparently se is feeling the crunch now) | 12:37 |
| raphink | hi ajmitch | 12:37 |
| === TheMuso uses a local Australian mirror. | ||
| TheMuso | Hi all bTW. | 12:39 |
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| ryanakca | crimsun: lol, 15.4kb/s with de.archive.u.c | 12:41 |
| crimsun | I got about 150 from nl | 12:42 |
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| Kyral | Wee learning mroe about RubyQt | 01:52 |
| Kyral | Interesting to learn that Qt was originally going to be called "Xt" but it was changed to "Qt" because it looked better in Emacs' font | 01:56 |
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| micahcowan | Xt was already taken before Qt was around, anyway, was it not? (X Toolkit). | 01:59 |
| micahcowan | as in, libXt. | 02:00 |
| Kyral | Dunno | 02:00 |
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| tsume | hey | 02:07 |
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| bddebian | Howdy gang | 02:51 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 02:51 |
| bddebian | Hi LaserJock | 02:51 |
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| ryanakca | can someone look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2812 ? I've added the manpage :) | 03:55 |
| Kyral | ...who signed my GPG Key without meeting me | 03:58 |
| Kyral | ...who is "fujitsu" | 03:58 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: looks good, just some minor touchup.s | 03:59 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: such as? | 04:00 |
| crimsun | (sec, I'm typing) The beginning of the long Description is a bit stilted | 04:00 |
| Kyral | ...remind me to talk to them next time they are online | 04:00 |
| Kyral | Signing someone's key without meeting them is a big no no ain't it? | 04:00 |
| ryanakca | Kyral: yeah | 04:01 |
| === Kyral hmms | ||
| Kyral | yah... | 04:01 |
| Kyral | anyone know who this "fujitsu" is? | 04:01 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: also, the Xfce/Xubuntu bit in README.Debian can be stripped; you can just explain general cli invocation | 04:01 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: well... it's meant to start at login in xubuntu | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: yeah, or at least I know "a" fujitsu | 04:02 |
| Kyral | he signed with an @ubuntu.com.au address | 04:02 |
| ryanakca | Kyral: I've seen him around... don't know who he is though | 04:02 |
| Kyral | I know I haven't met him | 04:02 |
| micahcowan | Launchpad has: https://launchpad.net/people/fujitsu | 04:02 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: which doesn't make it specific to any DE in particular | 04:02 |
| micahcowan | (William Grant) | 04:02 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: I'll note those points, afterward just ping me again | 04:03 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: kubuntu and ubuntu supposedly have klipper and some other applet for that | 04:03 |
| Kyral | Yah never met him | 04:03 |
| micahcowan | No guarantees it's the same one... | 04:03 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: so only xubuntu needs it | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | I think he's in AU though so it would see fairly likely | 04:03 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: there's no reason why this program can't run with ANY environment, which is my point | 04:03 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: ah. ok | 04:04 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Look at that attal for me? :-) | 04:04 |
| Kyral | Only MOTU I have met (and signed on my key) are dholbach, ogra, and Simon Law (He's not MOTU, but he seems to be active in Ubuntu as of late...he's Debian) | 04:04 |
| crimsun | bddebian: I'll try | 04:04 |
| zul | Kyral: simon is the ubuntu qagod | 04:04 |
| crimsun | Simon is an implicit MOTU by way of core-dev, he being the QA guy. | 04:04 |
| Kyral | ha | 04:05 |
| Kyral | ah even | 04:05 |
| Kyral | Yah I met him at UBZ | 04:05 |
| Kyral | Didn't know he is Core-Dev...when did that happen lol | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | when he got hired by Canonical | 04:05 |
| Kyral | again when did that happen | 04:06 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Don't worry about it, I passed it on to lfittle | 04:06 |
| bddebian | -e | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | any MOTUs going to LWE? | 04:06 |
| crimsun | Kyral: April 25th. | 04:09 |
| Kyral | Definately after I met him.... | 04:09 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: so rename the app to what? clipboard-daemon? | 04:10 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: gnome-clipboard daemon is the daemon's original name... | 04:10 |
| Kyral | I remember him because at the time he had "Drunken Master" on his business card | 04:11 |
| zul | LaserJock: where is it taking place? | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | San Fran? | 04:11 |
| zul | ah...well i wish..:) | 04:11 |
| Kyral | I'm not MOTU but forget it anyway :P | 04:11 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: sure, that would work. It's not as big an issue; I'd work with upstream to rename it. | 04:11 |
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| Kyral | I have two weeks at home before school starts and I'm takin' em | 04:11 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: it /is/ pretty misleading, since it effectively implies a tie to GNOME that is nonexistent. | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | hi all | 04:12 |
| crimsun | even stated on its home page | 04:12 |
| Kyral | yo Hobbsee | 04:12 |
| === Kyral hugs Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | hi Kyral | 04:12 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: kk, I'll try to bug the upstream< | 04:12 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Kyral in return | ||
| crimsun | ryanakca: in any case, it looks good. Just try and get everything right before it's uploaded, since it'll create fewer maintenance headaches. | 04:13 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: "get everything right"... including the name? | 04:13 |
| Kyral | yea got a copy of "Rapid GUI Development with RubyQt" | 04:14 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: yes | 04:14 |
| ryanakca | kk | 04:14 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: I mean, I could upload it now, but then we'd have to go through the entire NEW process /again/ after its name is changed | 04:15 |
| Kyral | GUI Apps here I come | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | ah | 04:15 |
| crimsun | better to wait a couple days and see if we can get it right the first go-round | 04:15 |
| Kyral | (this is good news for the Kubuntu Crew) | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | yay | 04:15 |
| === Hobbsee assigns all the kubuntu bugs to Kyral | ||
| Kyral | HEY! | 04:15 |
| Kyral | I meant I'd friggin write APPS! | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral: write non-buggy ones, would you? | 04:16 |
| Kyral | Hehehe | 04:16 |
| Kyral | I'll try | 04:16 |
| Kyral | Screw Python, I love Ruby | 04:16 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:16 |
| hub | how much advocate do you need for a package update? | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | hub: for an update? 1 | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | hub: only a MOTU to upload it | 04:21 |
| hub | I'm MOTU | 04:21 |
| hub | that makes 2 | 04:21 |
| crimsun | you don't need any advocates for an update. | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | hub: then you can just upload it? | 04:21 |
| crimsun | you need 2 advocates for a NEW source package. | 04:21 |
| hub | yeah I'll upload it | 04:21 |
| hub | hugin is in NEW now | 04:24 |
| hub | at last | 04:24 |
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| hub | who do I email to push a sync of a debian package? | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Submit a bug report on LP | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | hub: and subscribe ubuntu-archive | 04:31 |
| hub | bddebian: the bug is already in LP | 04:31 |
| hub | Hobbsee: you mean assign? | 04:31 |
| hub | ok | 04:31 |
| hub | makes more sense | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | do not assign, subscribe | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | hub: no, subscribe the archive | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | subscribe, don't assign | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 04:32 |
| hub | ah | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | hub: if you assign, Kamion will yell at you, most likely | 04:32 |
| hub | well sorry | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | I think we have that beat into our heads now | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | hub: :) | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: looks like it :) | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: heh...i think i'll assign them a few bugs anyway. | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | oh crap | 04:33 |
| hub | ok, deassigned but subscribed | 04:34 |
| hub | *sigh* | 04:34 |
| hub | I just wish I could go to LP and file a sync request | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | hub: heh, yeah. we need a box saying "this is a sync" | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | and another one saying "this is a wishlist" | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: very much a special case, compared to how many other bugs get filed | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: true. maybe just around merge time :P | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | soon you end up with 10 different checkboxes | 04:35 |
| hub | ajmitch: well at least it would auto triage | 04:35 |
| hub | or something | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: that's true. as long as it doesnt become like kde bugs, i'll be happy | 04:35 |
| hub | Hobbsee: what's wromg with KDE bugs | 04:35 |
| hub | ? | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | hub: file a bug there, and try searching for one, and you'll see why i dont like it | 04:36 |
| hub | I did | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | hub: ah. i keep finding it crashes on me | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | kde tends to do that | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hush you, or i'll make you do an upload. | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | good luck | 04:37 |
| === Hobbsee files a bug for the sheer hell of filing it. | ||
| === ajmitch needs more ram in the box downstairs | ||
| ajmitch | squid & apt-proxy tend to make it swap too much | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: do most kubuntu-devel people also read ubuntu-devel? | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: no | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: stick it on kubuntu-devel | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: do you happen to be a moderator on that list? | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: i dont. i should ask for that though. | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | k, I'll just subscribe quickly | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: it's very low traffic. i should use it actually, to poke people to tell them what they can work on. | 04:58 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | bah, come on, give me the stupid confirmation email >:( | 05:01 |
| === LaserJock runs down the hall and kicks the department server | ||
| TheMuso | heh | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 05:02 |
| === TheMuso waits impatiently for the alternate CD to sync. | ||
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: DId you leave -offtopic for any particular reason? :) | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: too many tabs :P | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: and because i wasnt reading it | 05:04 |
| TheMuso | aaah ok | 05:04 |
| === Hobbsee waits for this to build. | ||
| Hobbsee | then i'll poke someone for an upload. | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | anything good ever come up there? it always seems like the place people are sent when they get in a fight | 05:05 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:06 |
| === LaserJock has to admit he has been sent there once :/ | ||
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: only occasionally. and i got told off for having fun in there. | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | heh | 05:08 |
| === bddebian really doesn't know why he's doing all these sync requests... | ||
| Hobbsee | bddebian: because someone has to, and your'e it? | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Does anyone really care? | 05:13 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: just syncs? or merges too? | 05:15 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Both | 05:15 |
| bddebian | A lot of them have been able to be merged though | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | ah, well that's sweet | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: yes. | 05:16 |
| bddebian | Err s/merged/synced/ | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | is there an updated list? | 05:16 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: A lot of them haven't been synced yet :-( | 05:17 |
| === Hobbsee looks around for a core dev. | ||
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| === TheMuso is not staying up till 1/1:30 AM just for a school session. :) | ||
| === TheMuso will read the logs later. | ||
| crimsun | bddebian: you'd need to talk to BenC in -kernel regarding a method of smoothly building against the latest l-h | 05:48 |
| bddebian | OK thx crimsun | 05:49 |
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| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i did for the patching one. it was interesting, and i was awake | 05:56 |
| === Hobbsee goes home to beat the traffic. | ||
| Hobbsee | and the school zones | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | heh | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | see you later then. | 05:56 |
| bddebian | Later Hobbsee | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | eek. almost walked out without my laptop. | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | that would be silly | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 05:58 |
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| Cornellius | http://tinyurl.com/kpkbh | 06:19 |
| Munchkinguy | I'd like to reccomend a great program for inclusion in the Universe. | 06:21 |
| Munchkinguy | The Last.fm Player | 06:21 |
| Munchkinguy | I have not idea how to package things, but you can download the tarball at http://www.last.fm/tools/downloads?showplatform=Linux | 06:21 |
| crimsun | Filename: pool/universe/l/lastfm/lastfm_1.1.90-3_i386.deb | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I thought it was already in | 06:22 |
| ajmitch | we even have last-exit as well | 06:22 |
| Munchkinguy | oops. I guess I need to update my repository headings | 06:22 |
| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:24 |
| Munchkinguy | Oh, it's in edgy, not dapper. | 06:24 |
| ajmitch | yep, anything new gets added only to the development branch | 06:24 |
| Munchkinguy | I see. | 06:25 |
| Munchkinguy | Thank you for the enlightenment. | 06:25 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, I invited the forums to the MOTU Session tomorrow, I wonder if anybody will show? | 06:29 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: well, that could be interesting | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | well, I figured I'd at least try to give them something else to do besides complain about bugs ;-) | 06:32 |
| ajmitch | where'd you tell them? | 06:32 |
| ajmitch | ah, edgy forum | 06:32 |
| ajmitch | I see it | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | it's an experiment | 06:33 |
| ajmitch | even linked in to the wiki, how useful ;) | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | I try | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | linked to a world clock to for those who are UTC challenged, like me | 06:34 |
| === ajmitch watches the forums for feedback on changes made, since they usually won't bother filing bugs | ||
| ajmitch | UTC is fine for me | 06:34 |
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| ajmitch | I'm UTC+12, so it's easy to convert | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | doh | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | lucky | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | I'm either -7 or -8 | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | it gets hard in the evening because you switch days :-( | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | darn it, speaking of UTC, I bet I missed the dev meeting, again | 06:35 |
| ajmitch | yes | 06:36 |
| ajmitch | it was almost 24 hours ago | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | man, am I good or what? :-) | 06:36 |
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| TheMuso | Hey again Hobbsee | 06:40 |
| Hobbsee | sigh. | 06:40 |
| TheMuso | The traffic didn't treat you too badly did it? | 06:40 |
| Hobbsee | that was fun | 06:40 |
| === Hobbsee goes to repair everything *else* that's broken. | ||
| === Hobbsee missed all of that. | ||
| TheMuso | The traffic didn't treat you too badly did it? | 06:40 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i was finding it hard to figure out whether i was driving a car, or driving a speedboat, like everyone else was | 06:40 |
| TheMuso | heh | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | and i've seen just how badly my car is handling in the rain with old tyres. | 06:41 |
| TheMuso | eeek | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: doh, I *just* got my confirmation email for kubuntu-devel :) | 06:41 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | and something weird has happened to the usplash, so i had to fight for a while to see what my system was doing - it decided it was going to do the 30 mounts thing. | 06:41 |
| === Hobbsee goes off to repair the phone. | ||
| TheMuso | heh | 06:42 |
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| Hobbsee | right. phone works too now :) | 06:45 |
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| TheMuso | What? It stopped working as well? | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yeah, we've got a VOIP phone, and it tends to get a bit tempramental if the cable goes down. | 06:47 |
| TheMuso | Ah so its your job to fix it? :) | 06:47 |
| ajmitch | always great when things break | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i'm the only one at hom. | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | s/hom/home/ | 06:47 |
| TheMuso | Oh. | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: such things usually fall to me though, yes. | 06:47 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | or dad, if he's home | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | Laser_away: heh | 06:48 |
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| === ajmitch was just looking over these compiz debs from quinnstorm.. | ||
| ajmitch | and some of the other packages | 09:19 |
| ajmitch | well, they're in need of some work ;) | 09:19 |
| jsgotangco | and most people say its almost perfect | 09:19 |
| ajmitch | hah | 09:19 |
| === ajmitch should throw a copy of the library packaging guide at whoever did libsvg | ||
| jsgotangco | Composite Manager / XGL is 3rd in help.ubuntu.com in terms of hits | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 09:22 |
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| Toadstool | 'morning everybody | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | moins Toadstool | 09:27 |
| Toadstool | hey imbrandon | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco: whats the first 2 ? those stats would be kinda cool to look at | 09:28 |
| jsgotangco | imbrandon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageHits | 09:28 |
| imbrandon | ahh cool | 09:29 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | moins dholbach | 09:35 |
| dholbach | hey imbrandon | 09:35 |
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| Nafallo | morning | 10:03 |
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| shawarma | Hi guys! | 11:49 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 12:45 |
| viviersf | lo Hobbsee | 12:45 |
| === Hobbsee has been axe murdered. | ||
| === Hobbsee blames StevenK | ||
| ajmitch | typical | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | always blaming others | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | StevenK would never do that | 12:45 |
| zul | you never take responsibility for yourself | 12:45 |
| zul | meh....off to work | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | bye zul | 12:46 |
| === StevenK denies everything. | ||
| StevenK | I can neither confirm nor deny that I axe murdered Hobbsee. | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | looks confirmed now | 12:47 |
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| StevenK | Hah | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 12:47 |
| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee | 12:50 |
| Hobbsee | hi TheMuso. i've been axe murdered :( | 12:50 |
| === StevenK removes the axe from Hobbsee's back. | ||
| TheMuso | Well you should be dead. | 12:50 |
| TheMuso | So whoever is masquerading as Hobbsee, please show your respects, leave now, and let us morn. | 12:51 |
| === Hobbsee dies bloodily all over TheMuso, seeing as she is told she should be dead. | ||
| Hobbsee | s/seeing as she is told she should be dead/as requested/ | 12:51 |
| TheMuso | Nothing a good shower can't fix. :) | 12:51 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: But you can't see that's she's dead anyway. | 12:51 |
| TheMuso | How do you know? | 12:52 |
| TheMuso | Just because I can't see, doesn't mean I can't find out in other ways. | 12:52 |
| === StevenK leaves that one alone. | ||
| ajmitch | heh | 12:53 |
| ajmitch | simple - poke her & see if she reacts | 12:54 |
| TheMuso | But I'm too nice to do that. | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 12:54 |
| ajmitch | sure you are | 12:54 |
| TheMuso | I am. | 12:55 |
| TheMuso | I wouldn't want to hurt anybody, whether they be male or female. | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | sure sure. | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | tell StevenK he wants to fix his bugs. | 12:56 |
| TheMuso | Why don't you? | 12:56 |
| StevenK | She wants me to fix Linda bugs, and I've lost motivation to work on Debian again. | 12:56 |
| StevenK | Something about reading -project today. | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | doesn't surprise me in the least | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: well, you can always ignore the debian side, and pretend it's only in ubunt if you like. | 12:57 |
| === StevenK swears about a few select DDs. | ||
| Hobbsee | ack, cant spell. | 12:57 |
| TheMuso | While you two debate about bugs, I need to find out where I need to meet up with a board of studies rep next week. :) | 12:58 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: A place that he can see and you can't? :-P | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | har har har. | 01:00 |
| === StevenK pokes TheMuso in the ribs and guffaws. | ||
| TheMuso | At least what I am meeting up about is stuff to do with software for people who can't se. | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | s/se/see/ | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | ouch | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | Kinda used to that however. | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | So I am not going to hold it against you. | 01:01 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: I've helped with software for blind and visually impaired... | 01:01 |
| TheMuso | Cool. | 01:01 |
| TheMuso | I have been put in contact with someone at the board of studies who is interested in using Ubuntu/Linux with accessibility technologies for producing CD-ROMs with exams on them, with a screen reader etc so that blind/vision impaired people can use them to do exams. | 01:02 |
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| TheMuso | StevenK: What accessibility related stuff has you done? | 01:06 |
| StevenK | This certainly wasn't wide scale, it was at the office. | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | Ah right. | 01:06 |
| StevenK | I made the speech server not crash like a motherf^%&er for Bart. | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | What speech server? | 01:07 |
| StevenK | Via Voice. | 01:07 |
| TheMuso | Oh that. | 01:07 |
| StevenK | Before IBM updated it. It required a libc5 system. | 01:07 |
| TheMuso | I know. | 01:07 |
| StevenK | It doesn't anymore, from what Bart told me. | 01:07 |
| TheMuso | Hmmm right. | 01:08 |
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| === StevenK sighs. | ||
| StevenK | Since I was too quick doing a merge, I missed my oppurtunity at a sync. | 01:51 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:51 |
| zul | and you are not going crazy | 01:52 |
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| shawarma | Can someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2803 ? I'm meeting with upstream in a few hours and it'd be really nice if I could tell them it's been uploaded to Edgy. :-) | 02:22 |
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| Toadstool | shawarma: uploaded. | 02:50 |
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| shawarma | Toadstool: w00t! Thanks a lot! | 02:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:35 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | hey bddebian | 04:36 |
| bddebian | Hi Kamping_Kaiser | 04:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 04:36 |
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| dholbach | ** sfllaw is giving a motu school session #ubuntu-motu-school about bug triage | 05:07 |
| bddebian | Now? | 05:09 |
| Gloubiboulga | bddebian, yes | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 05:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi bddebian :) | 05:10 |
| Toadstool | hi bddebian | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Hi Toadstool | 05:10 |
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| icecrash | hi | 05:57 |
| Toadstool | hi icecrash | 05:59 |
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| philipacamaniac | I've got a package conflict in universe. totem-gstreamer was updated from 1.4.1 to 1.4.3, and according to Launchpad, so was totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, but it isn't showing up in the repositories. Only totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin 1.4.1 is available, and it won't install with totem-gstreamer 1.4.3 | 06:58 |
| philipacamaniac | (related to dapper-updates) | 06:58 |
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| philipacamaniac | for now, I'll just install the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin from launchpad, but I'm not sure how to file this type of problem as a bug for other people | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | I believe that is a known bug and a fix was already uploaded | 07:01 |
| philipacamaniac | thank you, although, I've updated my repositories several times in the last couple of days, and I haven't see 1.4.3 appear yet. | 07:03 |
| philipacamaniac | I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | well, there are a lot of packages being built | 07:03 |
| philipacamaniac | good point, i see | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | right now, so there it is probably in the backlog | 07:03 |
| philipacamaniac | okay thanks | 07:03 |
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| Sp4rKy | hye | 07:17 |
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| bluefoxicy | Uh | 08:08 |
| bluefoxicy | can somebody move Tremulous from Multiverse to Universe | 08:08 |
| bluefoxicy | Multiverse == redistributable but not free licensed right? | 08:09 |
| bddebian | bluefoxicy: I don't think we can do that, only core-devs or archive admins maybe? | 08:10 |
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| bluefoxicy | oh. | 08:10 |
| === bluefoxicy asks #-devel then | ||
| azeem | bluefoxicy: why do you think it should move? | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | bluefoxicy: if it really should move file a bug and *subscribe* ubuntu-archive | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | I've had to do a couple of those | 08:12 |
| bluefoxicy | azeem: Um, because multiverse is redistrib but not free licensed (I think?) and the code is GPL with CC-by-sa content? | 08:12 |
| azeem | is CC-by-sa ok for universe? | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | perhaps | 08:13 |
| azeem | apparently not | 08:13 |
| azeem | (see #ubuntu-devel) | 08:13 |
| bluefoxicy | yeah devel is saying no | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well ubuntu-docs must have an exception then :/ | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | I thought it was ok | 08:14 |
| bluefoxicy | what are ubuntu-docs licensed under cc-by-sa2.5 o.o? | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | dual license | 08:15 |
| bluefoxicy | LaserJock: I want to know why it's not free. I'm not arguing the policy but weird. | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | GFDL and cc-by-sa | 08:15 |
| azeem | bluefoxicy: search debian-legal I guess | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | well | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | yeah, debian-legal is a much better place to find that info | 08:15 |
| bluefoxicy | cc-by-sa seems to be "make sure my name stays on this and license it under cc-by-sa" which is roughly gpl in my eyes | 08:15 |
| bluefoxicy | I'll ask legal o.o | 08:16 |
| azeem | "roughly" | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | mostly doc licenses are considerd non-free becaue of attribution, I think | 08:16 |
| azeem | eh, no | 08:16 |
| azeem | don't *ask* them | 08:16 |
| azeem | search the archive for why 2.5 is non-free | 08:16 |
| bluefoxicy | attribution makes things non-free? o_O | 08:16 |
| azeem | it depends on the wording I guess | 08:16 |
| azeem | note how mjg59 said 3.0 will be ok probably | 08:16 |
| azeem | people have been working with CC to ensure this | 08:16 |
| bluefoxicy | yeah | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | I think GFDL was just considered barely to be DFSG free | 08:17 |
| azeem | there are many people who think it isn#t | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 08:17 |
| azeem | and invariant sections have been declared non-free by general resolution in Debain | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah, that's it | 08:17 |
| azeem | but Ubuntu is taking a different policy here, I believe | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | well | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | I think it's more that Ubuntu isn't a picky about that point, we don't do invariant sections | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | so it all practicality it's ok | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | I believe | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | but then IANAL | 08:18 |
| azeem | I mean, for 3rd party GFDL docs on archive.u. | 08:18 |
| azeem | c | 08:18 |
| azeem | though apparently there is not much incentive to patch the GNU documentation back into main/universe, AFAICT | 08:19 |
| bddebian | OK, this is the shit I hate. No one is answering me about squashfs but if I upload it and it tweaks the live-cd stuff, I am going to get an ass-reaming | 08:19 |
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| azeem | bddebian: ask on the list | 08:20 |
| bddebian | Hmm, OK | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | I'm sure *somebody* will have a comment | 08:20 |
| azeem | it's the weekend already for a lot of the core-devs I think | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | wheither you want it or not :-) | 08:20 |
| zul | bddebian: or attach a debdiff to a bug report | 08:22 |
| bddebian | Submit a bug report for something we are supposed to be able to handle anywya? | 08:22 |
| bddebian | Err anyway.. | 08:22 |
| zul | fine get yelled at :) | 08:23 |
| bddebian | Why stop now? :-) | 08:24 |
| scotth | bddebian, haven't you ever heard that its better to beg forgiveness than ask permission? | 08:34 |
| bluefoxicy | scotth: that only works for subbies that love to beg | 08:35 |
| bddebian | scotth: I live by those words at work :-) | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | scotth: hmm, I don't know if the Technical Board sees it that way ;-) | 08:35 |
| scotth | so do I... its more fun... | 08:35 |
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| scotth | who is gonna yell at the bull in a china shop? | 08:36 |
| tseng | bluefoxicy: can you knock that off immediately | 08:36 |
| tseng | bluefoxicy: (thank you.) | 08:36 |
| tseng | scotth: don't feed the troll please. | 08:36 |
| bluefoxicy | tseng: nobody's feeding me | 08:36 |
| scotth | I was mostly talking to bddebian | 08:37 |
| tseng | works for me. | 08:37 |
| bluefoxicy | I'm bored. | 08:39 |
| === bluefoxicy wanders through launchpad and triages bugs | ||
| bluefoxicy | (I'm THAT bored) | 08:40 |
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| === bluefoxicy notices... he can't change the importance of bugs. | ||
| bluefoxicy | So much for that idea. | 08:43 |
| scotth | yeah Ive noticed that too, why is that? | 08:44 |
| bluefoxicy | they probably realized people who weren't devs would probably do something like "Installer crash == critical" "kernel panic == critical" "obscure program nobody cares about not working == normal" etc etc | 08:44 |
| tseng | it is pretty annoying when users think their bug is higher priority for one | 08:44 |
| scotth | but what about those on the bug team? I would think they would atleast be able to set the bug to triaged | 08:45 |
| bluefoxicy | scotth: you're on the bug team? | 08:45 |
| tseng | if you are on the bug team and can't triage things, I would escalate to #launchpad | 08:46 |
| scotth | according to launchpad I am | 08:46 |
| tseng | and find out why | 08:46 |
| scotth | so bug team members should be able to? | 08:46 |
| scotth | I'll hop on over in a few and see why | 08:46 |
| tseng | I can't say authoratively | 08:46 |
| tseng | but I feel they should, just a random opinion | 08:46 |
| scotth | well atleast that would be the right place to ask | 08:46 |
| bluefoxicy | I am on the "don't join the dev team in any way but try not to be too annoying and see what can be fixed/tested" team | 08:47 |
| bluefoxicy | I don't think that gives me rights to triaging bugs or reading security-sensitive reports :> | 08:47 |
| bddebian | Later gang | 08:50 |
| scotth | btw, when are the irc logs for the latest motu school gonna be posted? | 08:50 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 10:08 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 10:14 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 10:15 |
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| LaserJock | boy we are just full of activity today :-) | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | I'm about read to fall asleep in my luch | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | ready | 10:31 |
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| crimsun | you're not fixing enough bugs then. :p | 10:31 |
| b_52Free | hi | 10:31 |
| bddebian | Hehe | 10:33 |
| bddebian | Hi b_52Free | 10:33 |
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| phanatic | evening | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: well, it's not from boredom | 10:35 |
| bb | hi | 10:35 |
| bddebian | Heya phanatic | 10:35 |
| phanatic | heya bddebian | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: it's more like "I have soo much to do and I'm soo tired that I think I'll just take a little nap on my desk" | 10:35 |
| crimsun | bah, naps are for wussies. Plenty of time to sleep when you're 80. | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | well, I got sfflaw's session on the wiki | 10:36 |
| Sp4rKy | audacious, again only 4 warnings :) | 10:37 |
| micahcowan | LaserJock, just do like edison, and work til you fall asleep for a few seconds. Keep working, fall asleep, wake up, keep working. :-) | 10:37 |
| bb | I've created a package for edge and tried to upload it to revu but it did not accept it... It did in the past - so what is wrong? | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | micahcowan: I'm starting to do that, my brain is failing mid sentence | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 10:38 |
| crimsun | bb: is your key in the keyring? | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | bb: are you a member of the ubuntu-universe-contributors Launchpad group? | 10:38 |
| bb | it has been - I think. I've got two packages already in revu... | 10:38 |
| bb | and I joined the group on launchpad | 10:39 |
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| kozz | is there any big difference between "real" ubuntu packages and packages directly imported from debian? | 10:59 |
| kozz | how to tell the difference, the uploader? | 10:59 |
| azeem | the version | 11:00 |
| tseng | the version number | 11:00 |
| tseng | X is debian | 11:00 |
| tseng | XubuntuY is ubuntu, plainly enough | 11:00 |
| tseng | this is 1.2.3-1 or 1.2.3-1ubuntu2 fex | 11:00 |
| kozz | ohh | 11:01 |
| kozz | so at: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+search?text=xmoto | 11:03 |
| kozz | there the edgy package is a plain copy from debian while dapper and breezy are modified in ubuntu? | 11:03 |
| Nafallo | kozz: the breezy package is a backport, otherwize correct. | 11:06 |
| kozz | ok, tnx | 11:11 |
| hub | kozz: ideally there wouldn't be any difference | 11:22 |
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| bddebian | Good man LaserJock | 11:41 |
| bddebian | Wow, whopping response to my e-mail as opposed to IRC eh.. :-) | 11:42 |
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| LaserJock | oh heah, too me a sec to find your email bddebian | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | *took | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | mono and the most offensive thing of the day swamped it ;-) | 11:49 |
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| LaserJock | !info squashfs | 11:50 |
| ubotu | Package squashfs does not exist in dapper | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | !info squashfs edgy | 11:50 |
| ubotu | Package squashfs does not exist in edgy | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | do I not know how to spell? | 11:50 |
| micahcowan | squashfs-tools? | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | !squashfs-tools edgy | 11:52 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about squashfs-tools edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | !info squashfs-tools edgy | 11:52 |
| ubotu | squashfs-tools: Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.2r2-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 61 kB, installed size 200 kB | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | bugger, I need to go back to bed | 11:52 |
| bddebian | Heh | 11:53 |
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