=== pirast [n=martin@p508B3EA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] what line do you add to rules to install man pages? "cp man.1 /usr/share/man/man1/"? [12:20] see dh_installman(1) [12:21] (and no, the above cp would have to be relative to the cwd, which generally means debian/$package/usr/share/man/man$section/ [12:21] ) [12:23] kk... and man.1 goes in debian/ ? === cassidy [n=cassidy@41.138-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] debian/$package/usr/share/man/man$section/ [12:23] crimsun: read your motu-school logs. Good intro! [12:25] crimsun: I though dh_installman installed the manpage into the appropriate directory... so just put it in debian/ ? or do I have to create those directories and manually install? [12:26] ryanakca: pick a method. Either use dh_installman(1), or use cp. [12:27] dh_installman [12:27] then forget the cp. You can either pass the name of the man page to dh_installman, or you can list it in debian/binary_package.manpages === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] morning [12:33] g'd evening ajmitch [12:33] is it just me or is archive.ubuntu.com slow today? [12:34] it probably is === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] hi raphink [12:36] ryanakca: bandwidth issues in London; use a mirror [12:36] ah === ryanakca will switch pbuilder to ca archive [12:36] unlikely to help, as that's the same as archive. [12:37] use de,nl,ch [12:37] (apparently se is feeling the crunch now) [12:37] hi ajmitch === TheMuso uses a local Australian mirror. [12:39] Hi all bTW. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] crimsun: lol, 15.4kb/s with de.archive.u.c [12:42] I got about 150 from nl === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-144-137-231-113.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-144-137-231-113.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] Wee learning mroe about RubyQt [01:56] Interesting to learn that Qt was originally going to be called "Xt" but it was changed to "Qt" because it looked better in Emacs' font === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] Xt was already taken before Qt was around, anyway, was it not? (X Toolkit). [02:00] as in, libXt. [02:00] Dunno === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icmp [n=icmp_@unaffiliated/icmp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsume [n=tsume@zanshin.tsumelabs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] hey === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nikes [n=nikes13@201.221.169.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@219.137.243.141] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ is now known as freeflying|away === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Howdy gang [02:51] hi bddebian [02:51] Hi LaserJock === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] can someone look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2812 ? I've added the manpage :) [03:58] ...who signed my GPG Key without meeting me [03:58] ...who is "fujitsu" [03:59] ryanakca: looks good, just some minor touchup.s [04:00] crimsun: such as? [04:00] (sec, I'm typing) The beginning of the long Description is a bit stilted [04:00] ...remind me to talk to them next time they are online [04:00] Signing someone's key without meeting them is a big no no ain't it? [04:01] Kyral: yeah === Kyral hmms [04:01] yah... [04:01] anyone know who this "fujitsu" is? [04:01] ryanakca: also, the Xfce/Xubuntu bit in README.Debian can be stripped; you can just explain general cli invocation [04:01] crimsun: well... it's meant to start at login in xubuntu [04:02] Kyral: yeah, or at least I know "a" fujitsu [04:02] he signed with an @ubuntu.com.au address [04:02] Kyral: I've seen him around... don't know who he is though [04:02] I know I haven't met him [04:02] Launchpad has: https://launchpad.net/people/fujitsu [04:02] ryanakca: which doesn't make it specific to any DE in particular [04:02] (William Grant) [04:03] ryanakca: I'll note those points, afterward just ping me again [04:03] crimsun: kubuntu and ubuntu supposedly have klipper and some other applet for that [04:03] Yah never met him [04:03] No guarantees it's the same one... [04:03] crimsun: so only xubuntu needs it [04:03] I think he's in AU though so it would see fairly likely [04:03] ryanakca: there's no reason why this program can't run with ANY environment, which is my point [04:04] crimsun: ah. ok [04:04] crimsun: Look at that attal for me? :-) [04:04] Only MOTU I have met (and signed on my key) are dholbach, ogra, and Simon Law (He's not MOTU, but he seems to be active in Ubuntu as of late...he's Debian) [04:04] bddebian: I'll try [04:04] Kyral: simon is the ubuntu qagod [04:04] Simon is an implicit MOTU by way of core-dev, he being the QA guy. [04:05] ha [04:05] ah even [04:05] Yah I met him at UBZ [04:05] Didn't know he is Core-Dev...when did that happen lol [04:05] when he got hired by Canonical [04:06] again when did that happen [04:06] crimsun: Don't worry about it, I passed it on to lfittle [04:06] -e [04:06] any MOTUs going to LWE? [04:09] Kyral: April 25th. [04:09] Definately after I met him.... [04:10] crimsun: so rename the app to what? clipboard-daemon? [04:10] crimsun: gnome-clipboard daemon is the daemon's original name... [04:11] I remember him because at the time he had "Drunken Master" on his business card [04:11] LaserJock: where is it taking place? [04:11] San Fran? [04:11] ah...well i wish..:) [04:11] I'm not MOTU but forget it anyway :P [04:11] ryanakca: sure, that would work. It's not as big an issue; I'd work with upstream to rename it. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] I have two weeks at home before school starts and I'm takin' em [04:12] ryanakca: it /is/ pretty misleading, since it effectively implies a tie to GNOME that is nonexistent. [04:12] hi all [04:12] even stated on its home page [04:12] yo Hobbsee === Kyral hugs Hobbsee [04:12] hi Kyral [04:12] crimsun: kk, I'll try to bug the upstream< === Hobbsee hugs Kyral in return [04:13] ryanakca: in any case, it looks good. Just try and get everything right before it's uploaded, since it'll create fewer maintenance headaches. [04:13] crimsun: "get everything right"... including the name? [04:14] yea got a copy of "Rapid GUI Development with RubyQt" [04:14] ryanakca: yes [04:14] kk [04:15] ryanakca: I mean, I could upload it now, but then we'd have to go through the entire NEW process /again/ after its name is changed [04:15] GUI Apps here I come [04:15] ah [04:15] better to wait a couple days and see if we can get it right the first go-round [04:15] (this is good news for the Kubuntu Crew) [04:15] yay === Hobbsee assigns all the kubuntu bugs to Kyral [04:15] HEY! [04:16] I meant I'd friggin write APPS! [04:16] hehe [04:16] Kyral: write non-buggy ones, would you? [04:16] Hehehe [04:16] I'll try [04:16] Screw Python, I love Ruby [04:16] heh [04:20] how much advocate do you need for a package update? [04:21] hub: for an update? 1 [04:21] hub: only a MOTU to upload it [04:21] I'm MOTU [04:21] that makes 2 [04:21] you don't need any advocates for an update. [04:21] hub: then you can just upload it? [04:21] you need 2 advocates for a NEW source package. [04:21] yeah I'll upload it [04:24] hugin is in NEW now [04:24] at last === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] who do I email to push a sync of a debian package? [04:31] Submit a bug report on LP [04:31] hub: and subscribe ubuntu-archive [04:31] bddebian: the bug is already in LP [04:31] Hobbsee: you mean assign? [04:31] ok [04:32] makes more sense [04:32] do not assign, subscribe [04:32] hub: no, subscribe the archive [04:32] subscribe, don't assign [04:32] hehe [04:32] ah [04:32] hub: if you assign, Kamion will yell at you, most likely [04:32] well sorry [04:32] I think we have that beat into our heads now [04:32] hub: :) [04:32] LaserJock: looks like it :) [04:32] LaserJock: heh...i think i'll assign them a few bugs anyway. [04:33] oh crap [04:34] ok, deassigned but subscribed [04:34] *sigh* [04:34] I just wish I could go to LP and file a sync request [04:34] hub: heh, yeah. we need a box saying "this is a sync" [04:34] and another one saying "this is a wishlist" [04:34] Hobbsee: very much a special case, compared to how many other bugs get filed [04:35] ajmitch: true. maybe just around merge time :P [04:35] soon you end up with 10 different checkboxes [04:35] ajmitch: well at least it would auto triage [04:35] or something [04:35] ajmitch: that's true. as long as it doesnt become like kde bugs, i'll be happy [04:35] Hobbsee: what's wromg with KDE bugs [04:35] ? [04:36] hub: file a bug there, and try searching for one, and you'll see why i dont like it [04:36] I did [04:36] hub: ah. i keep finding it crashes on me [04:36] kde tends to do that [04:37] ajmitch: hush you, or i'll make you do an upload. [04:37] good luck === Hobbsee files a bug for the sheer hell of filing it. === ajmitch needs more ram in the box downstairs [04:38] squid & apt-proxy tend to make it swap too much [04:39] heh [04:52] Hobbsee: do most kubuntu-devel people also read ubuntu-devel? [04:54] LaserJock: no [04:54] LaserJock: stick it on kubuntu-devel [04:55] Hobbsee: do you happen to be a moderator on that list? [04:56] LaserJock: i dont. i should ask for that though. [04:57] k, I'll just subscribe quickly [04:58] LaserJock: it's very low traffic. i should use it actually, to poke people to tell them what they can work on. [05:00] heh [05:01] bah, come on, give me the stupid confirmation email >:( === LaserJock runs down the hall and kicks the department server [05:02] heh [05:02] haha === TheMuso waits impatiently for the alternate CD to sync. [05:04] Hobbsee: DId you leave -offtopic for any particular reason? :) [05:04] TheMuso: too many tabs :P [05:04] TheMuso: and because i wasnt reading it [05:04] aaah ok === Hobbsee waits for this to build. [05:05] then i'll poke someone for an upload. [05:05] anything good ever come up there? it always seems like the place people are sent when they get in a fight [05:06] heh === LaserJock has to admit he has been sent there once :/ [05:07] LaserJock: only occasionally. and i got told off for having fun in there. [05:08] heh === bddebian really doesn't know why he's doing all these sync requests... [05:10] bddebian: because someone has to, and your'e it? [05:13] Does anyone really care? === TheMuso decides to try netbooting [05:15] bddebian: just syncs? or merges too? [05:15] LaserJock: Both [05:15] A lot of them have been able to be merged though [05:15] ah, well that's sweet [05:16] bddebian: yes. [05:16] Err s/merged/synced/ [05:16] is there an updated list? [05:17] LaserJock: A lot of them haven't been synced yet :-( === Hobbsee looks around for a core dev. === TheMuso grabs a CD-RW and grabs the netboot mini.iso instead. === FunnyHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso is not staying up till 1/1:30 AM just for a school session. :) === TheMuso will read the logs later. [05:48] bddebian: you'd need to talk to BenC in -kernel regarding a method of smoothly building against the latest l-h [05:49] OK thx crimsun === bddebian moves on === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] TheMuso: i did for the patching one. it was interesting, and i was awake === Hobbsee goes home to beat the traffic. [05:56] and the school zones [05:56] heh [05:56] see you later then. [05:57] Later Hobbsee [05:58] eek. almost walked out without my laptop. [05:58] that would be silly [05:58] yes === BazziR [n=Bastian@p508033F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Munchkinguy [i=munchkin@wnpgmb11dc1-45-171-9.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] http://tinyurl.com/kpkbh [06:21] I'd like to reccomend a great program for inclusion in the Universe. [06:21] The Last.fm Player [06:21] I have not idea how to package things, but you can download the tarball at http://www.last.fm/tools/downloads?showplatform=Linux [06:22] Filename: pool/universe/l/lastfm/lastfm_1.1.90-3_i386.deb [06:22] yeah, I thought it was already in [06:22] we even have last-exit as well [06:22] oops. I guess I need to update my repository headings [06:24] Gnight folks [06:24] Oh, it's in edgy, not dapper. [06:24] yep, anything new gets added only to the development branch [06:25] I see. [06:25] Thank you for the enlightenment. === Munchkinguy [i=munchkin@wnpgmb11dc1-45-171-9.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:29] hmm, I invited the forums to the MOTU Session tomorrow, I wonder if anybody will show? [06:31] LaserJock: well, that could be interesting [06:32] well, I figured I'd at least try to give them something else to do besides complain about bugs ;-) [06:32] where'd you tell them? [06:32] ah, edgy forum [06:32] I see it [06:33] it's an experiment [06:33] even linked in to the wiki, how useful ;) [06:33] I try [06:34] linked to a world clock to for those who are UTC challenged, like me === ajmitch watches the forums for feedback on changes made, since they usually won't bother filing bugs [06:34] UTC is fine for me === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:34] I'm UTC+12, so it's easy to convert [06:34] doh [06:34] lucky [06:34] I'm either -7 or -8 [06:35] it gets hard in the evening because you switch days :-( [06:35] darn it, speaking of UTC, I bet I missed the dev meeting, again [06:36] yes [06:36] it was almost 24 hours ago [06:36] man, am I good or what? :-) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [06:40] Hey again Hobbsee [06:40] sigh. [06:40] The traffic didn't treat you too badly did it? [06:40] that was fun === Hobbsee goes to repair everything *else* that's broken. === Hobbsee missed all of that. [06:40] The traffic didn't treat you too badly did it? [06:40] TheMuso: i was finding it hard to figure out whether i was driving a car, or driving a speedboat, like everyone else was [06:41] heh [06:41] and i've seen just how badly my car is handling in the rain with old tyres. [06:41] eeek [06:41] Hobbsee: doh, I *just* got my confirmation email for kubuntu-devel :) [06:41] hello Hobbsee [06:41] and something weird has happened to the usplash, so i had to fight for a while to see what my system was doing - it decided it was going to do the 30 mounts thing. === Hobbsee goes off to repair the phone. [06:42] heh === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [06:45] right. phone works too now :) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] What? It stopped working as well? [06:47] TheMuso: yeah, we've got a VOIP phone, and it tends to get a bit tempramental if the cable goes down. [06:47] Ah so its your job to fix it? :) [06:47] always great when things break [06:47] TheMuso: i'm the only one at hom. [06:47] s/hom/home/ [06:47] Oh. [06:47] TheMuso: such things usually fall to me though, yes. [06:48] Right. 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[09:19] and some of the other packages [09:19] well, they're in need of some work ;) [09:19] and most people say its almost perfect [09:19] hah === ajmitch should throw a copy of the library packaging guide at whoever did libsvg [09:22] Composite Manager / XGL is 3rd in help.ubuntu.com in terms of hits [09:22] haha === ToadZzZztool is now known as Toadstool [09:23] 'morning everybody [09:27] moins Toadstool [09:27] hey imbrandon [09:28] jsgotangco: whats the first 2 ? those stats would be kinda cool to look at [09:28] imbrandon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageHits [09:29] ahh cool === Hobbsee wonders when StevenK turned into a robot. === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B314A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] good morning [09:35] moins dholbach [09:35] hey imbrandon === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luka74 [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] morning === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@58.60.182.169] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-098-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === geser [n=michael@85.25.106.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dragonguy [n=syu@202.101.7.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dragonguy [n=syu@202.101.7.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] Hi guys! === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ is now known as doko === luka74 is now known as Lure === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] hi all [12:45] lo Hobbsee === Hobbsee has been axe murdered. === Hobbsee blames StevenK [12:45] typical [12:45] always blaming others [12:45] StevenK would never do that [12:45] you never take responsibility for yourself [12:46] meh....off to work [12:46] bye zul === StevenK denies everything. [12:46] I can neither confirm nor deny that I axe murdered Hobbsee. [12:46] hah [12:47] looks confirmed now === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] Hah [12:47] hah [12:50] Hey Hobbsee [12:50] hi TheMuso. i've been axe murdered :( === StevenK removes the axe from Hobbsee's back. [12:50] Well you should be dead. [12:51] So whoever is masquerading as Hobbsee, please show your respects, leave now, and let us morn. === Hobbsee dies bloodily all over TheMuso, seeing as she is told she should be dead. [12:51] s/seeing as she is told she should be dead/as requested/ [12:51] Nothing a good shower can't fix. :) [12:51] TheMuso: But you can't see that's she's dead anyway. [12:52] How do you know? [12:52] Just because I can't see, doesn't mean I can't find out in other ways. === StevenK leaves that one alone. [12:53] heh [12:54] simple - poke her & see if she reacts [12:54] But I'm too nice to do that. [12:54] hah [12:54] sure you are [12:55] I am. [12:55] I wouldn't want to hurt anybody, whether they be male or female. [12:55] sure sure. [12:56] tell StevenK he wants to fix his bugs. [12:56] Why don't you? [12:56] She wants me to fix Linda bugs, and I've lost motivation to work on Debian again. [12:57] Something about reading -project today. [12:57] doesn't surprise me in the least [12:57] StevenK: well, you can always ignore the debian side, and pretend it's only in ubunt if you like. === StevenK swears about a few select DDs. [12:57] ack, cant spell. [12:58] While you two debate about bugs, I need to find out where I need to meet up with a board of studies rep next week. :) [01:00] TheMuso: A place that he can see and you can't? :-P [01:00] har har har. === StevenK pokes TheMuso in the ribs and guffaws. [01:00] At least what I am meeting up about is stuff to do with software for people who can't se. [01:00] s/se/see/ [01:00] ouch [01:00] Kinda used to that however. [01:01] So I am not going to hold it against you. [01:01] TheMuso: I've helped with software for blind and visually impaired... [01:01] Cool. [01:02] I have been put in contact with someone at the board of studies who is interested in using Ubuntu/Linux with accessibility technologies for producing CD-ROMs with exams on them, with a screen reader etc so that blind/vision impaired people can use them to do exams. === otep [n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] StevenK: What accessibility related stuff has you done? [01:06] This certainly wasn't wide scale, it was at the office. [01:06] Ah right. [01:06] I made the speech server not crash like a motherf^%&er for Bart. [01:07] What speech server? [01:07] Via Voice. [01:07] Oh that. [01:07] Before IBM updated it. It required a libc5 system. [01:07] I know. [01:07] It doesn't anymore, from what Bart told me. [01:08] Hmmm right. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyral_ [n=kyral@128.153.199.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.106.2] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ubuntu-es [n=ubuntu@200.106.97.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK sighs. [01:51] Since I was too quick doing a merge, I missed my oppurtunity at a sync. [01:51] heh [01:52] and you are not going crazy === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@134.111-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] Can someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2803 ? I'm meeting with upstream in a few hours and it'd be really nice if I could tell them it's been uploaded to Edgy. :-) === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === Natja [n=lionel@134.111-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] shawarma: uploaded. === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] Toadstool: w00t! 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[05:10] bddebian, yes [05:10] Heya Gloubiboulga [05:10] hi bddebian :) [05:10] hi bddebian [05:10] Hi Toadstool === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icecrash [n=swilhelm@213.157.17.145] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] hi [05:59] hi icecrash === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === FunnyHat [n=funnyloo@c-24-13-21-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philipacamaniac [n=philip@ip68-228-55-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:58] I've got a package conflict in universe. totem-gstreamer was updated from 1.4.1 to 1.4.3, and according to Launchpad, so was totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, but it isn't showing up in the repositories. Only totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin 1.4.1 is available, and it won't install with totem-gstreamer 1.4.3 [06:58] (related to dapper-updates) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] for now, I'll just install the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin from launchpad, but I'm not sure how to file this type of problem as a bug for other people [07:01] I believe that is a known bug and a fix was already uploaded [07:03] thank you, although, I've updated my repositories several times in the last couple of days, and I haven't see 1.4.3 appear yet. [07:03] I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com [07:03] well, there are a lot of packages being built [07:03] good point, i see [07:03] right now, so there it is probably in the backlog [07:03] okay thanks === philipacamaniac [n=philip@ip68-228-55-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] hye === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Spec-[x] [n=dragonco@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsume [n=tsume@zanshin.tsumelabs.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === selinuxium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] Uh [08:08] can somebody move Tremulous from Multiverse to Universe [08:09] Multiverse == redistributable but not free licensed right? [08:10] bluefoxicy: I don't think we can do that, only core-devs or archive admins maybe? === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] oh. === bluefoxicy asks #-devel then [08:11] bluefoxicy: why do you think it should move? [08:12] bluefoxicy: if it really should move file a bug and *subscribe* ubuntu-archive [08:12] I've had to do a couple of those [08:12] azeem: Um, because multiverse is redistrib but not free licensed (I think?) and the code is GPL with CC-by-sa content? [08:13] is CC-by-sa ok for universe? [08:13] I think so [08:13] perhaps [08:13] apparently not [08:13] (see #ubuntu-devel) [08:14] yeah devel is saying no [08:14] hmm, well ubuntu-docs must have an exception then :/ [08:14] I thought it was ok [08:14] what are ubuntu-docs licensed under cc-by-sa2.5 o.o? [08:15] dual license [08:15] LaserJock: I want to know why it's not free. I'm not arguing the policy but weird. [08:15] GFDL and cc-by-sa [08:15] bluefoxicy: search debian-legal I guess [08:15] well [08:15] yeah, debian-legal is a much better place to find that info [08:15] cc-by-sa seems to be "make sure my name stays on this and license it under cc-by-sa" which is roughly gpl in my eyes [08:16] I'll ask legal o.o [08:16] "roughly" [08:16] mostly doc licenses are considerd non-free becaue of attribution, I think [08:16] eh, no [08:16] don't *ask* them [08:16] search the archive for why 2.5 is non-free [08:16] attribution makes things non-free? o_O [08:16] it depends on the wording I guess [08:16]