[12:01] <Seveas> dcnstrct, us.archive.ubuntu.com should work
[12:01] <dcnstrct> thnx Seveas
[12:01] <django_> harisund, ah well i didn't because this is my first ubuntu install ... so you can now do it nicely?
[12:01] <django_> harisund, but i've done many on fbsd
[12:01] <harisund> django_ personally I was using Breezy, and kept 'upgrading' to the dapper ever since dapper was on beta mode (not the alpha ones)
[12:01] <tamale> Is  SSH running as a server by default on a server install of dapper ?
[12:01] <django_> and know i couldn't do the same when i used linux
[12:01] <harisund> tamale no .. you will have to install it
[12:02] <userundefine> Cau1, you already have ntfs devices mounted.  "cd /media/sda1" or "cd /media/sda5"
[12:02] <harisund> tamale no server runs by defaul as in no ports are open by default on a server installation of dapper
[12:02] <dr_willis> django_,  I tend to keep /home on its own partition and just reinstall away. :P
[12:02] <Seveas> tamale, no (iirc)
[12:02] <django_> dr_willis, yeah
[12:02] <tamale> well what's the point of a server install then?  :P
[12:02] <tamale> j/k... i'll read an actual server install guide if there's a good one out there.
[12:02] <tamale> i just want the basics..  apache, php, mysql
[12:02] <django_> dr_willis, actually, most of the time i wouldn't put a machine into production if i only upgraded it, only reinstalled
[12:02] <harisund> dr_willis good idea .. I do that too ... but the problem is if I am switching distros while keeping my /home as it is, things get messy once a while :)
[12:02] <dr_willis> django_,  production? whats that.. :P
[12:03] <dr_willis> My ubuntu fileserver is still running warty i think.
[12:03] <django_> dr_willis, haha that sounds like my boss
[12:03] <harisund> tamale thnk of a server install as a base install ... you can install php mysql apache with a simple command, or install what is called the LAMP server option of Ubuntu
[12:03] <Seveas> tamale, help.ubuntu.com has a server guide
[12:03] <mwe> dr_willis: you don't need /home at a seperate partition to keep it if you reinstall though
[12:03] <Cau1> is there a maximum i can mount than?
[12:04] <django_> i still have to laugh at the guy who came in and kept asking what the best server program was
[12:04] <userundefine> Cau1, no
[12:04] <Seveas> django_, so which one was the best?
[12:04] <Cau1> well there should be more
[12:04] <harisund> dr_willis true .. that explains the hesitation of server system-admins to reinstall or upgrade.. anything breaks it is such a hassle to get everything back the exact way you configured it .
[12:04] <django_> Seveas, i never really got to the bottom of it
[12:04] <django_> Seveas, but someone else suggested grep lol
[12:04] <harisund> grep :D ..hahaha.. so what does grep server?
[12:05] <harisund> s/server/serve ..
[12:05] <django_> yeah haha
[12:05] <Shrew> Does anyone know if the Belkin 54g PCI card works with Ubuntu?
[12:05] <tamale> thanks everyone, i'll stop asking questions which most likely have simple answers in guides :] 
[12:05] <joe238> Hello, I am running Ubuntu from a disc because I am unable to login to the Ubuntu I have installed on my harddrive.  I keep receiving "Login Failed" messages when I attempt to login.  Is anyone familiar with this problem?
[12:05] <mwe> Shrew: is there a linux driver for it?
[12:05] <Seveas> django_, netcat -l would be my choice
[12:05] <harisund> joe238: How are you attempting to login?
[12:05] <harisund> joe238: perhaps you are entering a wrong password?
[12:05] <django_> yeah netcat, network swiss army knife
[12:05] <kern_malloc> joe238: didn't you set your password during the install?
[12:05] <Shrew> mwe: There's not a linux driver, but there are guides as to how to use ndiswrapper to convert it in other OSs...
[12:05] <harisund> django_ netcat is pretty awesome on Win XP as well ..
[12:06] <django_> but could i send the guy away hunting netcat?
[12:06] <Zambezi> Seveas, First: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/dapper-seveas/custom/gftp-common_2.0.18-11ubuntu1seveas1_i386.deb Then: sudo dpkg -i gftp-{common,text}_2.0.18-11ubuntu1sevas1_i386.deb ? I don't have X. So I don't need the grafic interface.
[12:06] <mwe> Shrew: yes
[12:06] <django_> harisund, heh windows only gets booted for games
[12:06] <joe238> I did and I have been running Ubuntu for months but just now it won't let me login
[12:06] <Zambezi> Seveas, wget then adress.
[12:06] <yuheng108> does anyone know why even with i915resolution, you can't get more than 1280*800 resolution?
[12:06] <dr_willis> joe238,  what was the name of the user you created during the install?
[12:06] <mwe> Shrew: did you install ndiswrapper and the suggested windows driver within it then?
[12:06] <Shrew> mwe: Oh, excellent! Does the ubuntu contain the latest version of ndiswrapper?
[12:06] <Seveas> Zambezi, or add the repository to /etc/apt/sources.list and use apt-get to install it 
[12:06] <dr_willis> joe238,  you aint trying to login as root are you?
[12:06] <kern_malloc> yuheng108: what card do you have?  I use i915resolution with intel915 and i get 1400x1200 or whatever it is
[12:06] <vinicri> thank u all
[12:06] <mwe> Shrew: a late one at least
[12:07] <vinicri> i'm leaving
[12:07] <Shrew> Excellent, thanks very much!
[12:07] <mwe> Shrew: I don't know if it's _the_ latest. but pretty recent at least
[12:07] <joe238> My login is simply joe and I have logged in countless times under that username with the same password
[12:07] <vinicri> exit
[12:07] <Seveas> joe238, check your caps lock...
[12:07] <dr_willis> joe238,  so it only recently quit working?
[12:07] <Cau1> userundefine: any ideas?
[12:07] <yuheng108> kern_malloc IMA 900
[12:07] <joe238> Yes, and my caps lock isn't on
[12:08] <kern_malloc> yuheng108: not sure about that card.
[12:08] <yuheng108> kern_malloc, how do you config it? cause I just install i915resolution, and it only give me 1280*800
[12:08] <userundefine> Cau1, ideas about what?  You can see from your fstab that there are ntfs drives mounted, and you see where they're mounted.  There isn't a limit on the number of partitions you can mount
[12:08] <django_> joe238, hmm well when you get back in i'd audit that sucker
[12:08] <kern_malloc> yuheng108: you configure it to replace a video setting... like replace 1200x800 with 1600x1400 or whatever.   it's different for every card.
[12:08] <harisund> any idea why Ubuntu uses Samba while a couple of other distros (including Fedora) use cifs instead?
[12:09] <kern_malloc> yuheng108: i suggest google your card + i915resolution
[12:09] <django_> can't the single user mode trick be used to get into ubuntu?
[12:09] <joe238> Well the problem I'm trying to solve is how to get back on.
[12:09] <timas> hey peoples!  anyone here able to help me figure out why cdrecord isn't allowed to open my cdr device?
[12:09] <kern_malloc> harisund: you can install cifs if you want
[12:09] <harisund> kern_malloc: really? hmmm.. I didn't think of that .. ok will have a look at it ..
[12:09] <joe238> One unusual thing that happened was something popped up that looked like it said that a particular program had failed but before I could read more it went away and returned me to the login screen.
[12:09] <kern_malloc> apt-get cifs probably :)
[12:10] <harisund> joe238 when you reboot, you have an option of entering a single user mode, where you will be thrown at a root terminal
[12:10] <timas> !k3
[12:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about k3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:10] <timas> !k3b
[12:10] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[12:10] <joe238> Console Login, correct?
[12:10] <django_> yeah baby
[12:10] <django_> and feel the power
[12:11] <harisund> actually kern_malloc, I didn't realize... cifs comes with samba client package... it comes with both smbfs and cifs .. hmm.. neat..
[12:11] <sally2> has anyone tried using kismet with ubuntu and an orinoco card?
[12:11] <django_> no X, no gtk, just you and the bits
[12:11] <libuntu> zenit: how could i get out, how much ram the gfx card has?
[12:11] <kern_malloc> harisund: ah ok right on
[12:12] <django_> kern_malloc is a really distracting name for me
[12:12] <Gixbit> is there an msn package with ubuntu?
[12:12] <django_> Gixbit, amsn?
[12:12] <Gixbit> that works with 64bit
[12:12] <Gixbit> =)
[12:12] <joe238> But when I get to the root terminal, then what do I do?
[12:12] <django_> joe238, change the users password
[12:12] <harisund> joe238 you could create a user, or you could change the password of the default user.
[12:12] <mwe> what package provides just a basic working Xorg environment including startx and such?
[12:13] <kern_malloc> django_: life's a bitch XD
[12:13] <bina> Hi, I'm trying to get rid of kwallet but apt-get is trying to remove both that and kubuntu-desktop when I so apt-get remove kwalletmanager  Will this get rid of all of KDE?
[12:13] <dr_willis> passwd joe
[12:13] <timas> Gixbit: doesn't Gaim work with 64b?
[12:13] <Seveas> mwe, x-window-system-core
[12:13] <dr_willis> bina,  no it will not.
[12:13] <mwe> Seveas: thank
[12:13] <Gixbit> i think
[12:13] <kung> gn8
[12:13] <dr_willis> bina,  but why bother getting rid of it?
[12:13] <harisund> bina, kubuntu_desktop is a meta package. technically you should be allright without that package..
[12:13] <zenit> libuntu: Hmm.. I guess you could check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but that's only what X detects. Maybe lspci -v will give you a hint?
[12:13] <timas> bina: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[12:13] <joe238> But is what you're talking about the Console Login?
[12:13] <django_> kern_malloc, i still respect you
[12:13] <harisund> bina but you will be better off with it. .. since some upgrades could break for example without ubuntu_desktop
[12:13] <arto> !codec
[12:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:13] <kern_malloc> will you in the morning?
[12:13] <django_> joe238, it is at a console, but you boot into single user mode
[12:13] <arto> !codecs
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <bina> dr_willis harisund timas: good thanks
[12:14] <bina> harisund, oh right, ill cancel that then :)
[12:14] <mwe> Seveas: does it include twm or something like that?
[12:14] <harisund> bina, if you look at, for example, the instructions to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper, it says you better ensure ubuntu-desktop package is present
[12:14] <aStRaLgOd> Damn.... xatitv asks for the PCI address of my ATi All in wonder card now >.<
[12:14] <aStRaLgOd> ima keep searching....
[12:14] <timas> durnit.. no-one here able to assist me in figuring out k3b's frustrating issues with my cd burner? I have to sudo before it can burn and I tried setting the cdwriter device with 777 permissions
[12:14] <Seveas> mwe, no
[12:14] <dr_willis> aStRaLgOd,  lspci may tell that info
[12:14] <bina> dr_willis, I dont like KMail constantly asking me for the kwallet password.  The reason I save the passwords in the first place is so i dont have to keep typing them :)
[12:15] <mwe> Seveas: so no windowmanager?
[12:15] <django_> joe238, by doing that , you bypass the login and get a root console
[12:15] <rcmiv> my gdm login resolution is too high...xorg.conf is 1024x768 at all depths?
[12:15] <Seveas> mwe, none at all
[12:15] <mwe> Seveas: ok
[12:15] <aStRaLgOd> dr_willis thanks
[12:15] <skeff> is there a good reason why my Ubuntu believes I am australian? I'm in norway, I am using a norwegian keyboard and all my strange letters work fine, but for some reason the default locale is set to australian english, and ubuntu downloads from australian mirrors..?
[12:15] <bina> harisund: oh right I see.  I'll just see if i can disable kwallet without removing it.  thanks
[12:15] <django_> timas, is the config looking for a symlink to the cd?
[12:15] <mwe> Seveas: but installing x-window-sytem-core and fluxbox would be enough for running fluxbox?
[12:16] <joe238> Ok I'll give it a shot, Thank you very much.
[12:16] <Seveas> skeff, I bet you were standing on your head during install, that confuses the installed
[12:16] <Seveas> mwe, correct
[12:16] <harisund> bina yes, you should be able to do htat..
[12:16] <arto> !w32codecs
[12:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <mwe> great
[12:16] <Seveas> skeff, but actually this is a bug in the installer
[12:16] <django_> skeff, hmm and it doesn't believe i'm an australian though i've told it
[12:16] <dr_willis> mwe,  but what apps ya going to run - if you dont have any others installed. :P
[12:16] <django_> ah, answered
[12:16] <sally2> what directory is the kernel located in?
[12:16] <timas> django_: Its looking for both "cdrom" which is a symlink and for sg1, which is the dev itself?
[12:16] <skeff> django_, my problem is a bug, your is a feature
[12:17] <bina> harisund: wow that was easy.  Just an option in kwallet :)  Dont know why I didnt try that initally
[12:17] <Gixbit> when i install Kubuntu and it says use the largest continuous free space does that mean unallocated space?
[12:17] <harisund> bina .. hehe .. I am not a KDE user, so I have no idea :)
[12:17] <django_> heh
[12:17] <dr_willis> Gixbit,  you got a section of the hd thats unallocated?
[12:17] <mwe> dr_willis: I'll install things along the way
[12:17] <Gixbit> yes
[12:17] <Zambezi> Seveas, When I tried that on another computer (with the other guys repos) it installed the one from Dappers repos.
[12:17] <django_> timas, and they symlink has perms that it keeps through reboot?
[12:18] <Gixbit> dr_willis: /dev/sda/
[12:18] <dr_willis> Gixbit,  i think thats what its saying. :)  I normally let it use a whole hd. :)
[12:18] <Gixbit> dr_willis: i did before yea
[12:18] <nikin_> yup it is that
[12:18] <Gixbit> dr_willis: i use 2 o/s
[12:18] <Gixbit> dr_willis: linux/winxp
[12:18] <timas> django: For as far as I can see, ayup.. even if I reset them now and rerun k3b it wont work.. only when I sudo
[12:18] <dr_willis> Gixbit,  i do also.. i keep each on its own hd.
[12:19] <Gixbit> dr_willis: i cut my xp partition and made it unallocated
[12:19] <dr_willis> Gixbit,  ya should be good to go then.
[12:19] <django_> timas, well it has to be permissions somewhere, obviously
[12:19] <Gixbit> dr_willis: great
[12:19] <Gixbit> dr_willis: will it install grub too?
[12:19] <timas> django_: Yeah.. the question is where exactly! :)
[12:19] <django_> timas, haha yeah
[12:19] <dr_willis> Gixbit,  yes it should.
[12:20] <django_> timas, um, in cdrecord maybe?
[12:20] <Gixbit> dr_willis: good
[12:20] <tamale> django:  Fluxbox and openssh server are working fine.  I installed tightvnc and started the server, but can't connect to it from another machine.. i'm getting "connection refused".   I'm using the standard  "RealVNC" viewer.   any ideas?
[12:20] <Gixbit> jk_: i just want you to know i'm installing kubuntu
[12:20] <django_> timas, i think you were using the kde front end that uses cdrecord
[12:20] <django_> k3b or something
[12:20] <dr_willis> tamale,  you ran the  command 'vncserver' ?
[12:20] <Gixbit> jk_: through the x windows interface
[12:20] <timas> django_: lessee.. I can use that nifty k3bsetup2 thing that comes with k3b that sets up all my permissions.. it ayes and says its happy.. and still wont work
[12:21] <tamale> dr_willis:   Yes
[12:21] <timas> yeah, kubuntu user, so kde/k3b
[12:21] <tamale> and it asked me for a password
[12:21] <dr_willis> tamale,  it said vnc server running on whatevername:1   (or similer?)
[12:21] <django_> tamale,  does netstat show vnc running and the port?
[12:21] <nikin_> does someone know an edior for linux, like EDIT was in DOS?
[12:21] <tamale> yes, yes
[12:21] <arto> I can't find the w32codecs anywhere, but I need to install wmv codecs. Anyone please?
[12:21] <dr_willis> tamale,  so 'ps' shows vncserver running eh?
[12:21] <Olathe> pico is sort of like it.
[12:21] <harisund> nikin_ you could use nano
[12:21] <tamale> yes
[12:22] <django_> tamale, can you connect locally?
[12:22] <dr_willis> tamale,  interesting..
[12:22] <stefg> !easysource > arto
[12:22] <tamale> rtt
[12:22] <tamale> err
[12:22] <django_> tamale, and is it firewalled? have to ask
[12:22] <tamale> netstat shows .X11 several times
[12:22] <dr_willis> vncviewer localhost
[12:22] <tamale> i see no explicit listing of vnc
[12:22] <django_> tamale,  see if you can connect from the same box
[12:22] <arto> stefg: sorry, that doesn't help. I already added the sources.list, it's not in any of them.
[12:22] <tamale> to vnc ?
[12:22] <django_> yes
[12:22] <timas> arto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[12:22] <coreyt> Anyone know if there's a problem with archive.ubuntu.org ?  BUMPS keeps failing on it.
[12:23] <django_> that eliminates the firewall/network
[12:23] <dr_willis> its Possible that vncserver is starting and exiting  - because you dont have a  .vnc/xstartup script or its there but spawning a invalid window manager
[12:23] <mwe> !w32codecs > arto
[12:23] <nikin_> ok, thanx, nano is fine :D
[12:23] <arto> timas: The link provided there is not working.
[12:23] <stefg> !seveas > arto
[12:23] <nikin_> is it inclooded on the LiveCD?
[12:23] <tamale> django:  I would need a vnc client on it then?
[12:23] <django_> dr_willis, right, i thought he said it was showing up in ps and netstat
[12:23] <harisund> nikin_ yes it is
[12:23] <arto> mwe stefg: Please understand me.. the links are not working, the packages of w32codecs IS NOT there!
[12:23] <django_> tamale, yeah
[12:23] <tamale> I'm confused how i could connect "locally"  over vnc
[12:23] <timas> arto: ohh
[12:23] <libuntu> zenit: thx lspci -v worked. G450 with 32 mb ram
[12:23] <harisund> tamale what?
[12:23] <mwe> arto: it was 2 day ago though
[12:23] <Gixbit> does anybody know if the xorg fglrx is the best driver for ati cards or if there is a better one?
[12:23] <coreyt> sorry meant .com
[12:24] <django_> tamale, well, all it is is a server and client
[12:24] <timas> arto: I get it now, I thought that link I just gave you didn't work.. okey, lessee..
[12:24] <dr_willis> arto,  i always get the w32codecs from the mplayer homepage. they seem to be more up to date
[12:24] <timas> well someone made a typo
[12:24] <libuntu> zenit: but i couldn't find a information, if the ramdac of one chip is smaller
[12:24] <timas> arto: Check that wget -c thing they put in there..
[12:24] <arto> dr_willis: Is there a deb package there?
[12:24] <timas> arto: They did "hhttp:"
[12:24] <tamale> django:  Can i talk to you in private?
[12:24] <django_> tamale only if it's not erotic
[12:24] <timas> arto: remove the first H, make it "http:"
[12:24] <dr_willis> arto yes
[12:24] <tamale> django:  I can't guarantee anything  ;)
[12:24] <arto> timas: umm.. I will try that.
[12:24] <mwe> arto: some new wmv files don't work even when you install the codecs though
[12:25] <django_> ok, let's go
[12:25] <fourat> how to change the default system charset ? dpkg-reconfigure locales <does not ask for the default locale
[12:25] <stefg> arto, if you regenerate your sources.list with source-o-matic, include seveas' packs, cipherfunk and all, then sudo apt-get update then it will be there, believe me
[12:25] <aStRaLgOd> meh I think ill give up my card will never work in linux
[12:25] <Gixbit> astralgod: which card?
[12:25] <timas> aStRaLgOd: sorry, which card?
[12:25] <aStRaLgOd> gixbit: Ati Radeon 9600 pro AiW
[12:25] <arto> stefg: My previous attempt to generate did not work on the "extra" packages, only the main ones worked. They gave 404 errors, broken.
[12:25] <mwe> fourat: do you mean the keyboard layout?
[12:26] <tamale> django_:   I've had problems in the past with private messaging.. can we just go into ubuntu-offtopic  ?
[12:26] <bigbill52a> are the ubuntu servers slow today?
[12:26] <django_> tamale, i'm in a query with you
[12:26] <django_> tamale ok
[12:26] <nikin_> bigbill. yup
[12:26] <Gixbit> astralgod: join the club ati cards are horrible on linux 90% of the time
[12:26] <aStRaLgOd> <.< well the graphic part of it works
[12:26] <aStRaLgOd> but not the TV part of it
[12:26] <timas> aStRaLgOd: Did you look at the ubuntu forums?  Else as that, I dunno.. I'm not an Ati user at all
[12:26] <fourat> mwe, locale charset say UTF8, i would like to get ISO8858-1
[12:26] <arto> Anyway, whoever who proposed the hhttp -h thing.. Thanks, you made me feel stupid :P But it's working ;)
[12:27] <timas> arto: no problem :)
[12:27] <aStRaLgOd> timas: god yes I did..... Ubuntu forums, mandrake forums, fedora forums, irc channels, google, dev mailing lists, Spanish mailing lists...
[12:27] <mikeo1> how can i see exactly what is using my bandwith
[12:27] <arto> timas: Please edit that link there if you can.
[12:27] <mwe> fourat: oh. why though? everything is optimized for unicode. /etc/environment
[12:27] <timas> aStRaLgOd: okey.. so you've been sorta busy with it! Sorry.. my last attempt at anything with tv on linux was with my previous machine and that was a nv card
[12:28] <mwe> fourat: make sure you have the locale compiled on your system or it wont work though
[12:28] <zenit> libuntu: oki, I could be wrong. I'm not sure how active the murc community is anymore (murc.ws), but I guess it should be possible to find some information there.
[12:28] <aStRaLgOd> timas: lol it's ok... :)
[12:29] <davegoodson> Hi, when i play video, the sound is slow, how do i fix this?
[12:29] <coreyt> Anyone know of a utility that would let you save a webpage as a pdf like you can on mac's?
[12:29] <timas> murf. k3b remains annoying.. last week it was xine, funily enough those errors were fixed after a reboot
[12:29] <nikin_> davedogs: dont use mplayer
[12:29] <nikin_> :D
[12:29] <timas> coreyt: print the page
[12:30] <Gixbit> just a quick question, when i run live cd while i'm installing ubuntu any changes i made as live cd are permanent with the installed version or?
[12:30] <aStRaLgOd> mmmm aiite, another kernel update, gotta remake my /boot/grub/menu.lst.... lol
[12:30] <libuntu> zenit: thx for your help, because since one hour i think the same, that the gfx card couldn't manage it, i tried all thinks which are possible
[12:30] <aStRaLgOd> Gotta find my Windows Boot thingies again
[12:30] <timas> coreyt: I do believe your installation came with a pre-installed pdf printer, although I could be wrong
[12:30] <ba5e> Gixbit: no
[12:30] <Gixbit> ba5e: i gotta reinstall everything again?
[12:30] <dr_willis> Gixbit,  any changes you make to the  mounted parttions will be.. but  not 'any' live cd change/settings changes
[12:30] <nikin_> corey: theres is a PDF output virtual printig stuff for cups
[12:30] <nikin_> dont know more, never used it
[12:30] <mwe> aStRaLgOd: it shouldn't overwrite your settings of you put it out of the automatic section
[12:30] <fiction> hellooo
[12:31] <coreyt> ah, I remember now..
[12:31] <coreyt> thanks
[12:31] <ba5e> Gixbit: thats half the fun!
[12:31] <aStRaLgOd> mwe: Yeah it does overwrite my Windows section everytime lol
[12:31] <aStRaLgOd> I always have to edit my menu.lst with gedit
[12:31] <mwe> aStRaLgOd: not if you put it out of the automatic section
[12:31] <davegoodson> With movie player, If i put it into stereo, the sound is slow, and if i put it into 5.1 speakers it then says something else is using sound or something
[12:31] <Seveas> aStRaLgOd, then move thw wondows section OUTSIDE the DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[12:32] <Gixbit> ba5e: i can only immagine how fun this is going to BE@!
[12:32] <aStRaLgOd> oh ok
[12:32] <aStRaLgOd> Thanks lol
[12:32] <Gixbit> ba5e: i've done fedora 1-3, suse and slackware and debian...
[12:32] <saxin> My rhythmbox-player crashes when I start it. Can I delete some config files to fix this? Any suggestions would be nice :-)
[12:32] <mwe> aStRaLgOd: 
[12:32] <nikin_> davegods: i had that with some badly written DVD-s to but not with original ones
[12:32] <Gixbit> ba5e: lets try ubuntu see if that's more fun...
[12:33] <mwe> Seveas: I couldn't resist. I stole your smiley
[12:33] <timas> !w32-codecs timas
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32-codecs timas - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:33] <nikin_> i tryed fedora to, ubuntu is much more fun
[12:33] <davegoodson> it was working before......
[12:33] <timas> !w32-codecs
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32-codecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:33] <fiction> guys i have a question
[12:33] <timas> durnit..
[12:33] <mwe> timas: /msg the bot
[12:33] <davegoodson> untill i installed that mplayer lol
[12:33] <mwe> !w32codecs > timas
[12:33] <nikin_> !info w32-codecs
[12:33] <fiction> i need to install something but i cannot have X server running. how do i quit Xserver?
[12:33] <ubotu> Package w32-codecs does not exist in dapper
[12:33] <timas> thanks mwe :)
[12:34] <fiction> mwe: how do i exit the Xserver lol
[12:34] <fiction> but keep linux on
[12:34] <aStRaLgOd> Isn't it CTRL-ALT-Backspace?
[12:34] <johnny> anybody here printing to remote cups of lower version here?
[12:34] <fiction> that logs me out
[12:34] <mwe> fiction: what do you want?
[12:34] <aStRaLgOd> oh ok, sorry lol
[12:34] <johnny> as soon as i did updates today
[12:34] <johnny> my printing stopped working
[12:34] <nikin_> johnny: i just print from Win to Lin
[12:34] <johnny> with the new cups that came wiht it
[12:34] <fiction> mwe: i need to install my nvidia driver but i cannot have Xserver running
[12:35] <fiction> so im trying to kill xserver
[12:35] <johnny> i have no windows boxes
[12:35] <nikin_> its my Wife's Box :D
[12:35] <nikin_> not mine
[12:35] <johnny> my gf uses ubuntu ..
[12:35] <johnny> its her laptop i'm trying to print from
[12:35] <Gixbit> when i first install kubuntu do i still need to use the cd to boot into kubuntu?
[12:35] <mwe> fiction: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. It will kill it aptruptly
[12:35] <johnny> which did work.. until cups upgrade
[12:36] <fiction> mwe: thank you
[12:36] <timas> Gixbit: not if the installer finishes all the way through
[12:36] <nikin_> johhny: what kind of printer?
[12:36] <mwe> fiction: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to restart it
[12:36] <aStRaLgOd> lawl
[12:36] <mcphail> mwe: too late...
[12:36] <aStRaLgOd> that must be frustrating
[12:37] <nikin_> what hapened
[12:37] <nikin_> ?
[12:37] <mwe> mcphail: yeah. I guess I should have told him in the same sentence 
[12:37] <mcphail> ;)
[12:37] <aStRaLgOd> mwe: You'll learn next time.... but now I regretfully have to cut your pay in half....
[12:38] <Gixbit> why does it give me a error loading opperating system? i installed kubuntu through the live cd
[12:38] <timas> Gixbit: what kind of error?
[12:38] <mwe> aStRaLgOd: yeah 
[12:38] <aStRaLgOd> Now, next step. Find out if Final Fantasy XI works in Linux.
[12:39] <rcmiv> i thought changing the gdm login screen resolution would be easy...it's not!
[12:39] <nikin_> astral: you are evil
[12:39] <mikeo1> how do i tell what program is using all my bandwith?
[12:39] <rcmiv> it's like, completely difficult
[12:39] <mikeo1> i think someone hacked my system
[12:39] <aStRaLgOd> nikin_, : y?
[12:39] <Gixbit> timas: it says this "Error loading operating system"
[12:39] <Ignite> are the repos playing up? first the gb repos were down, now the fr ones are going slow as hell
[12:39] <Gixbit> timas: do i need to set something as active or something?
[12:40] <timas> Gixbit thats not a whole lot of info.. when does it say that? does it time out in the splash boot? or does it start booting and suddenly stop? or or ?
[12:40] <mcphail> Ignite: it is a PITA this evening, isn't it?
[12:40] <nikin_> astralgod: yup... installing FFXI on Linux.. hmm its just sounds so... cant explain... evil ;)
[12:40] <Ignite> mcphail, a what?
[12:40] <Gixbit> timas: verifying dmi pool data .......
[12:40] <roby> Does Ubunto have an online package list/database ?
[12:40] <knoppix_> i fixed it!!!! i fixed ut !!! :)))))
[12:40] <Gixbit> timas: Boot from cd:
[12:41] <longwave> roby: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:41] <Gixbit> timas: error loading operating system
[12:41] <knoppix_> good night to all
[12:41] <roby> longwave: thanks
[12:41] <Ignite> roby, packages.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <nikin_> Gixbit: do you have Windows on the same box?
[12:41] <Gixbit> yes
[12:41] <mcphail> Ignite: pain in the *
[12:41] <Gixbit> same hdd
[12:41] <aStRaLgOd> nikin_, : lol
[12:41] <Ignite> mcphail, ah, yes it is lol
[12:42] <fiction> mwe: can you tell me the command again please?
[12:42] <timas> Gixbit: has it worked in the past?
[12:42] <rcmiv> exit
[12:42] <Gixbit> timas: i just did a new install
[12:42] <fiction> lol
[12:42] <nikin_> Gixbit: did you lunch the Windows after Kubuntu install?
[12:42] <unmannedleech> lol
[12:42] <Gixbit> timas: no
[12:42] <fiction> !nvidia
[12:42] <Zambezi> Seveas, I added the repos from the homepage, but I get errormessages.
[12:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <mikeo1> how do i set the clock in ubuntu?
[12:42] <mwe> fiction: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start when you need to start it again
[12:42] <Gixbit> timas: when i load the cd and try to boot from local disk it says's error loading operating system.
[12:42] <peace-keeper> i just installed ubuntu, what's my root password? :D
[12:42] <fiction> mwe: thank you!
[12:42] <timas> Gixbit: do you know what kind of drive you've got? A SATA drive perhaps?
[12:42] <Gixbit> timas: yes
[12:42] <nikin_> mwe: what is this? x stop start,
[12:42] <nikin_> ?
[12:43] <steve> can anyone help me with my monitor? it keeps flickering white lites?
[12:43] <Gixbit> timas: ubuntu is install on the sata
[12:43] <mwe> aStRaLgOd: please reraise my salary
[12:43] <mwe> nikin_: yes
[12:43] <unmannedleech> there is no root password your account is essentially root when you do a sudo
[12:43] <fiction> there is none
[12:43] <richiefrich> mikeo1 i dont know perminant but u can use..  -->  date MMDDHHMMYYY
[12:43] <Gixbit> timas: which is the same hdd as windows as well
[12:43] <h3x0r> hahaha yggdrasil
[12:43] <h3x0r> i set that up back in the day
[12:43] <peace-keeper> wtf no root password?
[12:43] <peace-keeper> lol
[12:43] <h3x0r> mitslowmi 1x cdrom
[12:43] <fiction> lol
[12:43] <unmannedleech> lol no you can enable it tho
[12:43] <aStRaLgOd> mve: Show me you deserve it first.
[12:44] <fiction> how do you enable root?
[12:44] <fiction> i went to the user management thing
[12:44] <richiefrich> mikeo1 date MMDDHHMMYYY   <-- those are numbers -->  date month day hour minute year
[12:44] <fiction> i tried changing rootpassword and it wouldnt let me
[12:44] <h3x0r> i miss kernel 0.99.  sort of
[12:44] <fiction> lol
[12:44] <libuntu> zenit: sorry for disturbing you but i found this http://www.matrox.com/graphics/pid/products/mill_gseries/g450.cfm
[12:44] <fiction> hi. asl?
[12:44] <arto> I am sorry to say, I installed w32codecs but they don't work on Totem or Mplayer!
[12:44] <unmannedleech> go to users and click show all users or something like that then add your root password then you can use su
[12:44] <fiction> just kidddding
[12:44] <libuntu> zenit: you are using two screens? could i paste you my xorg.conf?
[12:44] <Gixbit> timas: do you know what's wrong with it?
[12:44] <kern_malloc> h3x0r: yup i remember yggrdrasil... and SLS (which became slackware)
[12:44] <timas> Gixbit: I've been having /a lot/ of trouble with my SATA drive in Linux.. I'm runing the 19 version of the kernel where Dapper is currently in its 26th stage.. that 19 kernel seems to be the only one that works for me.. your issue might be somewhat of the same.. If the kernel you installed fails to load the proper driver for that SATA drive/controller
[12:45] <h3x0r> yea i mostly used sls
[12:45] <moreati> fiction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-a93fe09558d05b95a3b68200c629ec1cf3a70d7f
[12:45] <fiction> wasnt sls fast?
[12:45] <fiction> moreati: thanks!
[12:45] <richiefrich> mikeo1 then u can install  apt-get ntp-client
[12:45] <Gixbit> timas: well i don't know this is a fresh installation
[12:45] <neutrinomass> timas: If you have narrowed it down to a kernel version, then file a bug report - it will be fixed quickly
[12:45] <roby> Does the package system follow that of Debian? i.e. Does Drake continue to get updated with the latest packages or is it run like Debian's sarge?
[12:45] <timas> neutrinomass: It's kind of simple.. I can use anything pre -20
[12:46] <nikin> back :D
[12:46] <Gixbit> timas: i havent installed anything but what's on the disk
[12:46] <arto> I am sorry to say, I installed w32codecs but they don't work on Totem or Mplayer!
[12:46] <Gixbit> timas: and i dont have any boot disks
[12:46] <h3x0r> it was so funny
[12:46] <h3x0r> i downloaded slackware from a BBS
[12:46] <kern_malloc> haha
[12:46] <h3x0r> it was like 40 floppies
[12:46] <nikin> arto: xine?
[12:46] <h3x0r> took like 3 weeks
[12:46] <timas> Gixbit: Does Grub give any messages? Like "press esc to select from a list" or somesuch?
[12:46] <arto> nikin: I should use xine you mean?
[12:46] <unmannedleech> sure they do i haven't had a problem
[12:46] <h3x0r> there was one disk that was corrupted and i was pissed
[12:46] <bigbill52a> why does k3b run so much faster than nero....dqotd?
[12:46] <peace-keeper> this works :D "sudo su"
[12:46] <Gixbit> timas: there is no grub
[12:46] <zenit> libuntu: sorry, I don't use two screens for the moment. Don't even have a Matrox card anymore :) But the specs look good, so it's probably just your driver or the config.
[12:46] <eternaljoy> h3x0r: ROFL
[12:46] <nikin> arto: i mean you should test it out
[12:47] <h3x0r> so i go to best buy and ask this guy for a 3 button mouse
[12:47] <Gixbit> timas: it doesnt look like it installed GRUB at all
[12:47] <kern_malloc> yup i remember the slacware floppy install
[12:47] <h3x0r> hes like wtf do you want a 3 button mouse?
[12:47] <kern_malloc> that's why it was like a1 a2 a3 heh
[12:47] <eternaljoy> h3x0r: you remind me of a wanna-be hacker punk zit faced, red headed kid :P
[12:47] <h3x0r> im like oh this guy is really gonna know what linux is
[12:47] <dravas> Is there like a Yahoo! Widget Engine like program for Linux?
[12:47] <h3x0r> yeah i was 13
[12:47] <roby> I guess what I should ask is, does Drake continually get updated with the latest packages or are those packages only available in edgy?
[12:47] <timas> Gixbit: I think it did, but its only visable for a few seconds.. does it give a mesage about loading this or that linux image?
[12:47] <h3x0r> So this guys like Oh you mean slackware? I uploaded that to $BBS
[12:47] <h3x0r> haha the guy that worked at best buy knew what linux was
[12:47] <peace-keeper> can i read a winxp partition with ubuntu ?
[12:47] <neutrinomass> timas: File a bug report ;) The kernel devs will probably fix it quickly ..
[12:48] <h3x0r> so i told him one of the X windows disks was fucked so he reuploaded it
[12:48] <neutrinomass> peace-keeper: Yes...
[12:48] <timas> neutrinomass: where at? :)
[12:48] <AndyCooll> roby: Latest packages are on Edgy
[12:48] <nikin> A 3 Button Mouse is usefull for : Wings3D, blender, Lightspeed.. etc
[12:48] <Gixbit> timas: it doesnt say anything about vmlinuz or anything
[12:48] <h3x0r> eternal: pretty much
[12:48] <dravas> Is there like a Yahoo! Widget Engine like program for Linux?
[12:48] <Gixbit> timas: no unfortunatly...
[12:48] <h3x0r> except not red hair...
[12:48] <neutrinomass> timas: http://launchpad.net/+distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+filebug I think ...
[12:48] <roby> AndyCooll: do they sorta get passed down to Drake when they become stable?
[12:48] <timas> Thanks neutrinomass
[12:49] <h3x0r> I used IRIX at work back in 94
[12:49] <neutrinomass> timas: Actually it's http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+souce/linux-source-2.6.15/+filebug
[12:49] <timas> Gixbit: I'm sorta running out of options.. which version did you download/install? when did you download it?
[12:49] <AndyCooll> roby: Not necessarily. Usually only if there are significant security or bugfix reasons
[12:49] <kern_malloc> I still use IRIX unfortunately
[12:49] <Gixbit> timas: kubuntu 6.06
[12:49] <roby> AndyCooll: i see, thank you very much
[12:49] <Gixbit> timas: yesterday
[12:49] <neutrinomass> timas: After filing, watch your mail though - developers are bound to ask questions ...
[12:49] <kern_malloc> IRIX, AIX, and HP-UX... i use em daily and hate em
[12:50] <h3x0r> ew AIX
[12:50] <h3x0r> ewwww HP-SUX
[12:50] <timas> Gixbit: Then you've probably got the -26 kernel..
[12:50] <h3x0r> HP-SUX Is the worst
[12:50] <h3x0r> is it even y2k compliant?!
[12:50] <NemesisUK> does anyone the defferences with bash and dash?
[12:50] <kern_malloc> yah :)
[12:50] <Gixbit> timas: i guess
[12:50] <kern_malloc> UNIX was never really a y2k issue
[12:50] <h3x0r> dude i got some systems that run on ultrix
[12:50] <Gixbit> timas: i'm gonna use a windows boot disk and run the fdisk
[12:50] <h3x0r> and we cant upgrade them coz it would break the software
[12:50] <h3x0r> and it aint y2k compliant
[12:50] <Gixbit> timas: see what's going on
[12:50] <h3x0r> so i set it back to 1990
[12:51] <timas> Gixbit: I'd try and see if you can find a flight 5 iso of Kubuntu
[12:51] <h3x0r> piece of crap
[12:51] <timas> You're running XP?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> h3x0r: join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue that convo
[12:51] <h3x0r> sorry :P
[12:51] <Gixbit> timas: dual boot
[12:51] <Gixbit> timas: or trying...
[12:51] <AndyCooll> roby: For instance, you'll get the Firefox security update versions, but Firefox 2.0 will probably only become available in Edgy. Unless the Backport team decide to issue an update for Dapper
[12:51] <mistform> can anyone here help me with network manager?
[12:51] <Gixbit> timas: i've got to say i've never saw a harder version of linux to install without trouble
[12:52] <timas> no need for Fdisk, right click on your my computer icon, pick 'manage' select the drive manager or somesuch.. click around till you find it.. it can give you all the info you need I think
[12:52] <Gixbit> timas: not even slackware is this bad...
[12:52] <Gixbit> timas: i cant get into windows or linux
[12:52] <timas> Gixbit: oh.. I hadn't gathered that yet
[12:52] <roby> AndyCooll: mmmm... gotcha
[12:52] <Gixbit> timas: there doesnt seem to be a BOOT partition
[12:53] <timas> Gixbit: fdisk, see whats going on.. maybe trash all the partitions, there's a change your boot sectors got pooped
[12:53] <Gixbit> timas: only a swap and the ext3
[12:53] <knoppix_> hey need help
[12:53] <knoppix_> tommorow i m changing my internet provider from adsl to cabel
[12:53] <timas> Gixbit: did you do the manual partition managing in the installer?
[12:53] <yggdrasil> h3x0r ?
[12:53] <Gixbit> timas: no..
[12:53] <knoppix_> how do i configure the connection for cabek?
[12:54] <nikin> i have to look around on e-bay, maybe i can get a PDP-11
[12:54] <Gixbit> timas: i had unallocated space
[12:54] <knoppix_> tommorow i m changing my internet provider from adsl to cabel
[12:54] <knoppix_> how do i configure the connection for cabek?
[12:54] <Gixbit> timas: i told it to use that unallocated space to format
[12:54] <root> hello fellow linux users
[12:54] <knoppix_> how do i configure the connection for cabel?
[12:54] <unmannedleech> yo
[12:54] <Gixbit> timas: so i dont see a boot partition only a swap and a ext3
[12:54] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: do you use a seperate router?
[12:55] <knoppix_> no router
[12:55] <linux_duud> what is that program to download and slice up internet radio streams into mp3 ?
[12:55] <cavediver> Hi. Seems like CONFIG_MMC_BLOCK is not in dapper kernel but in vanilla 2.6.15m why is that ?
[12:55] <knoppix_> just modem
[12:55] <timas> No XP (or rather NTFS) partition at all anymore, either?
[12:55] <unmannedleech> D0c play red faction?
[12:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:55] <Gixbit> timas there is
[12:55] <knoppix_> for adsl i configured it with pppoeconfig
[12:55] <Gixbit> timas: NTFS is there
[12:55] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: wired or wireless
[12:55] <yggdrasil> h3x0r ? am i clown to you ? do i make you laugh?
[12:55] <knoppix_> what do i do to configure cable internet connection
[12:55] <knoppix_> wire
[12:56] <timas> I think, but its a guess, that installer fubared on redoing your boot sectors..
[12:56] <bashi> gibts hier auch jmd der deutsch kann?
[12:56] <cavediver> is there a kernel-dev channel ?
[12:56] <Dubuntu> hey
[12:56] <h3x0r> HEH!
[12:56] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: you running dual boot at all?
[12:56] <knoppix_> intead of pppoeconfig i need to use some other command
[12:56] <Dubuntu> where can i go to download the USP by chanders
[12:56] <knoppix_> ????
[12:56] <Gixbit> timas: how to fix?
[12:56] <knoppix_> no
[12:56] <nikin> !ubuntu-de
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu-de - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:56] <knoppix_> just ubuntu
[12:56] <Gixbit> timas: blow up my computer?
[12:56] <nikin> !#ubuntu-de
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about #ubuntu-de - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:57] <knoppix_> dude cable modem in ubuntu
[12:57] <cavediver> no kernel-devs here ?
[12:57] <Gixbit> timas: throw it out the window? crack ubuntu in half for being gay?
[12:57] <ompaul> nikin, (A) stop fishing and (B) I will fix it in a moment
[12:57] <timas> Gixbit: I doubt any of those will help..
[12:57] <gnomefreak> !de
[12:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:57] <knoppix_> dont know how to configure the connection
[12:57] <nikin> ompaul, sry
[12:57] <Gixbit> timas: not even slackware is this retarded
[12:57] <knoppix_> pls help
[12:57] <bashi> ubuntu-de is invite only
[12:57] <timas> Gixbit: Try running the installer again
[12:57] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: you should be able to hook it up to your eth0, log into the modem, and configure that according to your ISP's specs
[12:57] <timas> Gixbit: manually set up the drive
[12:58] <ompaul> bashi, I just joined it
[12:58] <knoppix_> they dont support linux
[12:58] <ompaul> but then I am me
[12:58] <timas> Gixbit: set the first partition on your drive to be bootable
[12:58] <Gixbit> timas: that requires me to load up fglrx on the live cd again...
[12:58] <knoppix_> they r dumb
[12:58] <gnomefreak> so did i
[12:58] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: that's why I asked if you ran dual boot ;)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ompaul: its not invite
[12:58] <knoppix_> no
[12:58] <knoppix_> just ubuntu
[12:58] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: tell them you need to do a 'manual setup'
[12:58] <Gixbit> timas: i think i like the throw my computer out the window and crack ubuntu in half alot better...
[12:59] <timas> Gixbit: It's the only solution I've got.. sorry! I'm in no way a guru, just trying to help ;)
[12:59] <knoppix_> they dont even know what linux is
[12:59] <timas> Gixbit: Gimie your adres first, I'll come catch it and bring it home with me!
[12:59] <knoppix_> i m telling u
[12:59] <GottferDamnt> Hi!
[12:59] <Gixbit> timas: i'm just joking just uber po'd
[12:59] <Gixbit> timas: i've been at this for a day now?
[12:59] <knoppix_> isnt there a command  like the pppoeconfig just for cable modems?
[12:59] <Gixbit> timas: and slackware took me 30 minutes to get moving
[01:00] <GottferDamnt> Can someone help me? I try to watch some .mov video with mplayer into firefox... I have sound but not screen vid :/
[01:00] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: with the cable modem configured, Ubunto should see the net connection on eth0 and configure itself automagically
[01:00] <timas> Gixbit: I'm hitting the 4 days on the kernel issues.. I tried compiling my own, to no avail :)  Such is life, but its what makes Linux interesting to me
[01:00] <Gixbit> timas: i got hugely horrible luck or ubuntu hates me even though the word means for human beings?
[01:00] <knoppix_> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:00] <DarkAudit> especially if you set it to use DHCP
[01:00] <knoppix_> i got it
[01:00] <knoppix_> k 10x
[01:00] <timas> GottferDamnt: Did you install the w32 codecs?
[01:01] <knoppix_> i hope that that is what gona happen
[01:01] <mwe> Gixbit: it doesn't
[01:01] <GottferDamnt> timas: yes I did
[01:01] <GottferDamnt> :/
[01:02] <timas> GottferDamnt: sorry, not sure then! they work for me, I think.. not sure
[01:02] <Gixbit> mwe: you sure?
[01:02] <Gixbit> mwe: i'm pretty sure it does
[01:02] <Gixbit> mwe: ubuntu has been kicking me in the face for the last day and i havent even got it installed
[01:02] <mwe> Gixbit: I'm sure
[01:02] <DarkAudit> knoppix_: hook all the wires up, and point your browser to your cable modem address. You should see a config screen. Then call the ISP for that 'manual setup'. They'll need some info from the modem
[01:02] <DarkAudit> whoops :)
[01:02] <Frankenstein> Gixbit, whats wrong? lol
[01:02] <gilianima> where are stored files with vsftpd ?
[01:03] <GottferDamnt> timas: OK... I don t understand too... It s stranger... I have all codecs to read .mov files but I have finally just some sounds
[01:03] <mwe> Gixbit: it's the motto though
[01:03] <hussam> I can hibernate by right clicking the 'power manager' icon the notification area and selecting 'hibernate' but I want to make the computer hibernate when I press the power button. How do I do that?
[01:03] <timas> Gixbit's installer ate his boot partition
[01:03] <Gixbit> frankenstein: oh nothing besides ubuntu is being a bastard?
[01:03] <Gixbit> excuse my french
[01:03] <mwe> Gixbit: well can you provide more detail?
[01:03] <Frankenstein> Gixbit, it can be at times :P rewarding once you have a nice pc and can move onto cool graphics and themes
[01:03] <Gixbit> there's far more colorful words i could use to express my anger
[01:03] <timas> GottferDamnt: do they play in other players?
[01:04] <Frankenstein> Gixbit, only a computer, no need to get upset... just state your problems one at a tiem and someone is sure to help
[01:04] <mwe> Gixbit: well this is not the place. it's a support channel
[01:04] <Gixbit> mwe: indeed
[01:04] <GottferDamnt> timas: I tried in vlc and totem... no way
[01:04] <Gixbit> if it means anything kubuntu just wasted 1 day
[01:04] <Gixbit> the problem i'm having is getting it installed it wont load right
[01:04] <Gixbit> so now i have to redo the install
[01:05] <Gixbit> and to do that i have to apt-get update and reinstall fglrx
[01:05] <PorkyPig> oink
[01:05] <Gixbit> just to start the gui x windows interface
[01:05] <Frankenstein> wow
[01:05] <Frankenstein> i messed up my pc
[01:05] <Gixbit> and so far
[01:05] <Gixbit> it's lagging out on archive.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <Gixbit> so some reason....
[01:05] <Seveas> !reposdown > Gixbit
[01:06] <Gixbit> any reason why the server is always waiting for headers?
[01:06] <Gixbit> or does it just love me like crazy?
[01:06] <timas> its lagging for me too
[01:07] <Gixbit> what a perfect time for it
[01:07] <dravas> How do I change the permission of files dravas@dravas-desktop:~/IRCServerServices/Unreal3.2$ ./unreal start bash: ./unreal: Permission denied
[01:07] <shaun_> can someone explain the difference between kde, kde-base, and kde core? and which one i should be using?
[01:07] <digitalhav0c>  chown dravas
[01:07] <dravas> ok
[01:07] <timas> chown --help, dravas
[01:07] <Gixbit> wow it ignored get 3
[01:07] <timas> Shaun, depends on what you want to do?
[01:08] <shaun_> well, what does that mean?
[01:08] <shaun_> i want to use the  entire kde suite.
[01:08] <timas> KDE, like any bigger application, is made up out of several packages.. they all work together to bring one big final product
[01:08] <zuhause01xx> hi!
[01:08] <hyphenated> dravas: that error is probably because the file is not 'executable', which you can fix with chmod
[01:08] <timas> look for the kde-desktop, Shaun_
[01:09] <hussam> anyone knows how to make the power button hibernate instead of shut down?
[01:09] <libuntu> zenit: could you look for a second on my xorg.conf http://nopaste.biz/?7225
[01:09] <hyphenated> dravas: alternatively, you can run 'sh ./unreal' instead of './unreal'
[01:09] <Gixbit> i want to use ubuntu but that's becoming more difficult by the second
[01:09] <zuhause01xx> i would like to download something via WGET and would like to download the files to a certain folder, can someone help on this one please
[01:09] <timas> Gixbit: run the installer again from the same CD, manually set up that drive
[01:10] <luisito> how can I resize my partitions from ubuntu in a hardrive with ubuntu and windows?
[01:10] <hyphenated> zuhause01xx: cd to the folder before running the wget command
[01:10] <Kyral> GParted
[01:10] <longwave> zuhause01xx: run "wget --help" and look at the flags under Directories
[01:10] <stephan21_> can someone help me .....if i have 2 sound cards witch only support once instant of sound can i like have one playing quake3 and one playing music
[01:10] <Gixbit> timas: i'll try
[01:10] <timas> wget -O "your/output/file" "http://yoururl.com"   ?
[01:10] <Kyral> though its best to use a LiveCD and use GParted/QtParted from there
[01:10] <zuhause01xx> yoo, thanx ;D
[01:11] <Gixbit> timas: if it doesnt work i'll just break everything in the room and be happy
[01:11] <timas> Gixbit: whatever floats your boat ;)
[01:11] <luisito> Kyral: thank you man
[01:11] <Kyral> Just be careful
[01:11] <Kyral> always assume that a repartition op will delete the affected partitions
[01:11] <Kyral> This isn't always the case, but its most of the time :P
[01:11] <luisito> Kyral: it is installen d in ubuntu or I'll have to install it?
[01:12] <Gixbit> somebody wanna tell archive.ubuntu.com to stop being stupid and slow
[01:12] <mumbles> ok ubuntu keeps on failing installing linux base.
[01:12] <Kyral> Like I said, use a LiveCD
[01:12] <Kyral> the Ubuntu LiveCD has GParted
[01:12] <azureal> hi, my sound doesn't work after following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[01:12] <azureal> any ideas?
[01:12] <Kyral> like I said, though...BE CAREFUL
[01:12] <Kyral> backup whatever before hand just incase
[01:13] <probono> hi all, is there a known problem with loop-mounting in the dapper live cd?
[01:13] <mumbles> anyone else having troulbe with installin ubuntu atm ?
[01:13] <Gixbit> timas: hey how do i break the apt-get update?
[01:13] <Kyral> I use Arch :P
[01:13] <Gixbit> timas: i mean how do i cancel it so i can keep trying it until it works...
[01:13] <timas> Gixbit: Ctr+C
[01:13] <timas> Gixbit: Ctr+C will generally stop any running cli (commandline interface) application
[01:14] <luisito> Kyral: but, if I use it from the hardrive?, it's too risky?
[01:14] <peace-kee> why are the icons for firefox and thunderbird so ugly? :D
[01:14] <nikin> ... /msg archive.ubuntu.com Dont be stupid and Slow PLIIIZ
[01:14] <Kyral> luisito: I say run it from the LiveCD because you cannot operate on a disk that is actively being used
[01:14] <Gixbit> argh archive.ubuntu!!!!!
[01:14] <azureal> that page should be removed from ubuntuguide.org, as it is horrible
[01:14] <Kyral> luisito: when you fire up a LiveCD it runs from the CD and doesn't mount the HD
[01:14] <mumbles> damm ubuntu install properley
[01:14] <DanaG> Where does ALSA store its configuration?
[01:15] <luisito> ok
[01:15] <Gixbit> archive.ubuntu.com is mean!
[01:15] <timas> mumbles:  did you check the CD?
[01:15] <luisito> Kyral: ok thanks
[01:15] <mumbles> timas yeh cd is fine
[01:15] <crimsun> DanaG: what do you mean by "configuration"?
[01:15] <mumbles> its when its downloading stuff from the server its having problems
[01:15] <DanaG> Aliases of sound-card-0 and sound-card-1
[01:15] <mumbles> ire all the packages
[01:15] <crimsun> DanaG: those are unnecessary
[01:15] <crimsun> DanaG: what's the root issue?
[01:16] <Gixbit> its only the archive server
[01:16] <timas> mumbles: try again tomorrow.. everyone's having those issues.. archive's having hickups
[01:16] <peace-kee> whats the best filesystem to choose if i have a separate hard disk only for data and want it readable for both windows and linux ?
[01:16] <crimsun> no, it's a bandwidth issue at the London data centre
[01:17] <crimsun> use another mirror
[01:17] <Gixbit> archive's being horrible today
[01:17] <DanaG> I have two sound cards, and the wrong one is slot 0.
[01:17] <timas> peace-kee: Go with FAT32
[01:17] <peace-kee> kay thx
[01:17] <mumbles> timas crap. was hopeing to get it working today
[01:17] <crimsun> DanaG: set it with System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card
[01:17] <Gixbit> unfortunatly i need to get that UPDATE now
[01:17] <Gixbit> because everything is being brokeback
[01:18] <ohho1290> 
[01:18] <ohho1290> hi
[01:18] <|thunder> what up all ,..
[01:18] <azureal> so is there a way to get my sound working (after following that horrible ubuntu.org guide?)
[01:18] <FuriousRage> either linux or my isp hates me
[01:18] <nikin> Gixbit: supporting ubuntu with some money, like about 1.000.000$ will help them out of server issues
[01:18] <crimsun> azureal: what's the issue?
[01:18] <crimsun> (no, I have not read scrollback.)
[01:19] <|thunder> az, integrated or pci?  what chipset?
[01:19] <mwe> Gixbit: use a mirror like the topic suggests
[01:19] <azureal> crimsun: I followed this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[01:20] <azureal> and it ruined my sound
[01:20] <Gixbit> mwe: how?
[01:20] <Gixbit> mwe: i dont know how to do with from CLI
[01:20] <mwe> Gixbit: change your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:20] <crimsun> man
[01:20] <arto> When I installed the w32 codecs the video appears greenish and digitally dotted.. It's a wmv codec I am trying to work out.. What's the problem?
[01:20] <crimsun> I don't see why people /insist/ on following that guide, but whatever.
[01:20] <crimsun> azureal: first thing: get rid of ~/.asoundrc*
[01:20] <Gixbit> mwe: how?
[01:20] <crimsun> azureal: (and /etc/asound.conf if you created one)
[01:21] <azureal> yes, i already did part2
[01:21] <Dubuntu> use kmplayer
[01:21] <mwe> Gixbit: you don't know how to edit a file?
[01:21] <azureal> (your part2 lol)
[01:21] <Gixbit> mwe: in this linux? now
[01:21] <Gixbit> no*
[01:21] <timas> arto: I have somewhat the same issue.. Kaffeine plays my movies awesomely.. any of the others save mplayer give varying results..
[01:21] <|thunder> ive been using automatix to install my codecs. all work fine but libdvdcss which i have to apt manually
[01:21] <DanaG> "Edgy Eft"?  WTF is an Eft?
[01:21] <timas> arto: never figured it out though.. just stuck with kaffiene
[01:21] <crimsun> a newt-like organism.
[01:21] <|thunder> i was wondering also
[01:21] <azureal> crimsun: there is no .asoundrc
[01:21] <mwe> Gixbit: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list. back it up first though
[01:22] <crimsun> azureal: good. now pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio && cat /proc/asound/cards''
[01:22] <mwe> Gixbit: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[01:22] <arto> timas: I believe.. that it's a codec conflict. BUt I am not sure which codec conflicts with wmv codec!!
[01:22] <Patrick_> how would I get Ubuntu to connect to my Proxy Server and get internet from it?
[01:22] <arto> timas: And I can't uninstall Xvid codecs.. so hell, I will try kaffeine.
[01:22] <ohho1290> how can i use another language in Rhythmbox 0.9.3.1
[01:22] <Gixbit> mwe: hey i'm on live cd?
[01:23] <Gixbit> mwe: i dont care if it explodes little lone backing anything up
[01:23] <wheels3572> What's the difference between a Taskbar and a Launcher?
[01:23] <mwe> Gixbit: yes and you're trying to install things ?
[01:23] <timas> arto: maybe sound+video? I'm not sure what the sound layer of wmv files is.. try kaffiene, see how that works out
[01:23] <dravas> Whats the apt-get command for a C compiler?
[01:23] <peace-keeper> how to configure graphic card? (its damn slow)
[01:23] <hyphenated> dravas: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:23] <nikin> Gixbit: you want to update on livecd?
[01:23] <dravas> thanks
[01:23] <azureal> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/114231
[01:23] <|thunder> peace, ati or nvidia ?
[01:23] <timas> peace-keeper: try to define which card?  I wont be able to help either way but others might be able to
[01:23] <Gixbit> yes
[01:24] <Gixbit> I HAVE TO UPDATE and get fglrx
[01:24] <arto> timas: I am downloading it now.. however, do you generally recommend KDE programs on Gnome Desktop? They work fine, no problem?
[01:24] <Gixbit> because it cant do x windows interface
[01:24] <peace-keeper> elsa erazor ii :) very old
[01:24] <|thunder> areto, always have for me
[01:24] <azureal> crimsun: i think perhaps removing my /etc/esound/esd.conf and replacing it w/ the backup might work
[01:24] <peace-keeper> riva tnt chip or something like that
[01:24] <DanaG> Legacy NVIDIA that is.
[01:25] <lamo> hi guys
[01:25] <mwe> !shout
[01:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:25] <nikin> mwe: is there a fallback gnome mode on livecd?
[01:25] <DanaG> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74173
[01:25] <mwe> nikin: I haven't used the ubuntu live cd
[01:25] <timas> arto: my experience, they do work fine.. but I tend to forget most here are Gnome users.. I'm a Kubuntu/KDE user myself :)
[01:25] <lmao> what is a program where i can download whole web sites?  i would like to view the vim tutorial on a plane :)
[01:25] <crimsun> azureal: are you unable to hear sound in Ubuntu?
[01:25] <DanaG> Elsa Erazor II 16MB Nvidia Riva PCI Video Card. TNT
[01:25] <arto> timas: Aren't you ashamed for using kubuntu? :P
[01:26] <harisund> does anybody know how to constantly monitor a file for changes? As in I want to keep seing the output of dmesg in real time, like top ... or read a log file in real time and watch it being changed?
[01:26] <mrJungle> I have installed freeNX (with apt-get), and have followed the guide found on the forums .. but when I try to connect (windows client) I'm getting the message "NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1" .. Has anybody seen this?
[01:26] <lmao> i dont have the time to save each and every web page by hand.
[01:26] <hyphenated> lmao: wget -m --no-parent http://whatever
[01:26] <azureal> crimsun: i hear the initial noise at the login screen, but not in gnome or fluxbox when i run beep-media-player, for example
[01:26] <nikin> GGixbit: i recall there is a VGA mode or a fallback, on the livecd, did you try that?
[01:26] <DanaG> I'm still "wishy-washy" in deciding between (k)ubuntu and Mepis.
[01:26] <wheels3572> What's the difference between a Taskbar and a Launcher?
[01:26] <lmao> hyphenated: thanx pal
[01:26] <mwe> lmao: there is one. I forgot the name though :|
[01:26] <Gixbit> nikin: holy hell man, I don't know anything about Ubuntu
[01:26] <hyphenated> wheels3572: taskbar shows what is running. launcher is the icons you click to start programs
[01:26] <Gixbit> nikin: or anything about some vga mode
[01:27] <DanaG> It sounds like that Riva TNT (1) needs _legacy_ NVIDIA
[01:27] <|thunder> wheels, launder is just an icon
[01:27] <|thunder> task bar holds them
[01:27] <timas> arto: Not at the least! :D  I love it so much better than gnome ;)  Nm it though! offtopic
[01:27] <peace-keeper> and how i install nvidia ?
[01:27] <nikin> Gixbit: restart with the CD and on the first screen look for fallback or VGA or something like that
[01:27] <wheels3572> hyphenated, ok
[01:28] <mwe> lmao: vimdoc.sf.net has a huge amount of downloadble vim docs though
[01:28] <|thunder> try this 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx'
[01:28] <micahcowan> !nvidia
[01:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:28] <Gixbit> here's what i'm going to do
[01:28] <|thunder> that works great for my nv6600 and 6200
[01:28] <DanaG> you need LEGACY
[01:28] <FuriousRage> !killmyispplease
[01:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about killmyispplease - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:28] <Gixbit> i'm going to set the active partition as my windows partition
[01:28] <peace-keeper> i'm so proud i managed to install ubuntu without cdrom drive
[01:28] <|thunder> easy ubuntu has legacy drivers
[01:28] <azureal> crimsun: i'm about to restart again to see if that'll have any effect
[01:28] <Gixbit> and come back when ubuntu isn't crazy like this
[01:28] <|thunder> automatix does not
[01:28] <Gixbit> for free software it isnt that friendly
[01:29] <Gixbit> cough
[01:29] <micahcowan> peace-keeper, OOC how did you install?
[01:29] <nikin> Gixbit F4 is VGA
[01:29] <nikin> if i remember good
[01:29] <mwe> he left
[01:29] <aStRaLgOd> well, nikin also gets a paycut
[01:29] <timas> I'm out folks, I'll try again with my k3b/cdrecord issues later on :)
[01:29] <|thunder> could someone help me rename some file extensions please? i tried 'mv *.m4p *.m4a' with no success.
[01:30] <lix> Hi. Can somebody please tell me, how i can do "color management" with my LCD screen in ubuntu? i would like to turn the colors "warmer" for graphic work with gimp.
[01:30] <FuriousRage> it seams no one can solve my conundrum at all ;(
[01:30] <mwe> |thunder: use mmv
[01:30] <|thunder> and 'man rename' is too damned confusing
[01:30] <nikin> mwe: i still think this could work... i mean the VGA mode... dunno.
[01:30] <MarcN> |thunder: rename 's/mp4/m4a/' *.m4p                      renames all foo.m4p to foo.mp4
[01:30] <lix> |thunder: use mv
[01:30] <mwe> |thunder: mmv is easy
[01:30] <userundefine> FuriousRage, what's the problem
[01:31] <peace-keeper> i installed with "instlux"
[01:31] <|thunder> hehe, thanks all.
[01:31] <Chetic> anybody know how to show what song is playing in xmms using xsys?
[01:31] <peace-keeper> only had winxp, and that instlux booted a simple installer which downloaded everything
[01:31] <FuriousRage> is it possible to boot the ubuntu cd with ipv6 disabled?
[01:31] <peace-keeper> very sweet
[01:32] <userundefine> FuriousRage, probably not.  You could disable the ipv6 modules once you're in though
[01:32] <nikin> astral: why i get paycut? :(
[01:32] <micahcowan> peace-keeper, looks pretty sweet.
[01:32] <FuriousRage> userundefine: been there, done that, nothing works to get an ip no matter what i tried ;/
[01:32] <nikin> i know was slow, but its not easy googling an ubuntu startup screenshot
[01:32] <shaun_> anyone using kde 3.5.2 ???
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: back from funeral, how did you do?
[01:32] <userundefine> FuriousRage, ah.
[01:33] <mwe> shaun_: yes
[01:33] <shaun_> i need some help with network manager
[01:33] <fiction> !nvidia
[01:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:33] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: it didnt
[01:33] <shaun_> ah
[01:33] <digitalhav0c> anyone got an experince with niswrapper ?
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: still no network card
[01:33] <mwe> shaun_: I haven't used the network manager. sorry
[01:33] <lmao> i have a link on my desk top to a .html file.  how do i have firefox see this as a link and not an html itself?
[01:33] <philippe_> is ti normal that the cd of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake doesnt boot
[01:33] <shaun_> oh ok
[01:33] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: the nic is there, just not getting any darn ip! ;>
[01:33] <mrJungle> I have installed freeNX (with apt-get), and have followed the guide found on the forums .. but when I try to connect (windows client) I'm getting the message "NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1" .. Has anybody seen this?
[01:33] <lmao> didgitalhav0c: i have installed ndiswrapper on debian about 2 months ago.
[01:34] <lmao> digitalhav0c: i have installed ndiswrapper on debian about 2 months ago.
[01:34] <lmao> err typo
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: did you try ndiswrapper yet?
[01:34] <wheels3572> hyphenated, What does a tray do?
[01:34] <philippe_> is ti normal that the cd of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake doesnt boot ?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: no
[01:34] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: for what purpose?
[01:34] <digitalhav0c> lmao, oh sorry ndiswrapper
[01:34] <userundefine> philippe_, no
[01:34] <Absenth> where's the how-to to make broadcom wifi cards work in drake?>
[01:34] <digitalhav0c> lmao and good tutorials on it
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[01:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:34] <hyphenated> wheels3572: it holds little icons for programs that are running, so you can access them quickly
[01:35] <digitalhav0c> trying to get my zyxel card working
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper
[01:35] <philippe_> ok i tried to 2 2 pcs and it doesnt work
[01:35] <lmao> azureal:  what are the key strokes to toggle between workspaces in KDE ?
[01:35] <azureal> crimsun: it fixed itself after i but the backup
[01:35] <philippe_> 2 pcs
[01:35] <azureal> put*
[01:35] <Absenth> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[01:35] <mwe> philippe_: the idea is it should boot
[01:35] <azureal> lmao: well i dont use kde either ;)
[01:35] <wheels3572> hyphenated, would that be the workspaces or is that different?
[01:35] <userundefine> philippe_, you check the md5 hashes, and/or bad media?
[01:35] <bimberi> philippe_: doesn't work meaning?
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np Absenth
[01:35] <lmao> oh
[01:35] <hyphenated> wheels3572: workspaces are something different again
[01:35] <FuriousRage> azrael0: use the other vm with SilverXP theme and it looks like windows! ;>
[01:36] <philippe_> userundefine what do you mean
[01:36] <digitalhav0c> thanks
[01:36] <azureal> lmao: there isnt a workspace icon in your system tray that you can click on?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: did you burn it or get it in the mail. have you verified the checksum?
[01:36] <peace-keeper> whats a good irc client ?
[01:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell philippe_ about verify
[01:36] <nikin> philipe_ 1. did you set CDboot in bios 2. mayb  CD is badly written, Burn an other one
[01:36] <mercykiller> peace-keeper: Xchat, irssi
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> peace-keeper: I like konversation
[01:36] <azureal> peace-keeper: i second Xchat
[01:36] <mrJungle> I have installed freeNX (with apt-get), and have followed the guide found on the forums .. but when I try to connect (windows client) I'm getting the message "NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1" .. Has anybody seen this?
[01:37] <fiction_> !nvidia
[01:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <MatthewV> peace-keeper, xchat :)
[01:37] <mrJungle> !freenx
[01:37] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:37] <micahcowan> peace-keeper, I'm on xchat, too. Best I've seen.
[01:37] <philippe_> yes i burn the iso from graveman
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: if you have the iso file on your computer go to terminal and type md5sum nameof.iso
[01:37] <peace-keeper> kay ill try that
[01:37] <philippe_> ok
[01:38] <dou213> how can i check with commands if my repositories are all activated?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: substitute the name of your iso for the obvious sudoname I used
[01:38] <nikin> peace.keeper: IMHO irssi is the best IRC client, ecen with its limitations
[01:39] <peace-keeper> thats the one i'm on with right now, i think
[01:39] <digitalhav0c> hum it doesn't tell me how to connect to a wireless network like a hotspots thats open to everyone
[01:39] <longwave> nikin: i agree, but what limitations does irssi have?
[01:39] <digitalhav0c> how can scan to see what networks are available?
[01:39] <longwave> surely if you can write perl, it can do anything :)
[01:39] <philippe_> jack it reponse me e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[01:39] <nikin> longwave: i have problems with /msg -s
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[01:40] <azureal> lmao:  Ctrl + Alt + right arrow
[01:40] <azureal> 
[01:40] <azureal> Switches to the workspace to the right of the current workspace.
[01:40] <FuriousRage> i think ill resize my hdd back to 100% windows, cant get linux to get an dhcp ip ;(
[01:40] <nikin> and it has not as good list-ing capabilitys than some other clients
[01:40] <nikin> i cant write perl :(
[01:40] <Patrick_> can anyone help me get my laptops internet working on Ubuntu?
[01:41] <Patrick_> its getting internet through a proxy
[01:41] <Patrick_> Mozilla Fire Fox works
[01:41] <Patrick_> but nothing else
[01:41] <Patrick_> gaim, terminal, etc.
[01:41] <dou213> how can i look for a package name? sudo apt-search?
[01:41] <nikin> Patrick: what is elsE?
[01:41] <digitalhav0c> gaim can use proxy's you just have to set up to use one
[01:41] <fiction_> Hey
[01:41] <digitalhav0c> terminal you mean what Patrick_
[01:41] <fiction_> noob question coming up
[01:41] <lix> dou213: apt-cache search
[01:41] <Ap0s7le> HEY all, video card question real fast. Would a NVIDIA 7300 work alright on Ubuntu?
[01:41] <jme> is there a quick way to take screencaps in Ubuntu?
[01:41] <dou213> lix, thx
[01:42] <lix> dou213: or synaptic or aptitude
[01:42] <Patrick_> digitalhav0c, like, sudo apt-get update
[01:42] <fiction_> Apostle, type !nvidia
[01:42] <lmao> my laptop gets hot and i dont download anything when im asleep.
[01:42] <jme> Ap0s7le: yeah, but it may take a little work getting the drivers working
[01:42] <fiction_> youll get all the info you need
[01:42] <digitalhav0c> oh
[01:42] <lix> dou213: apt-cache show packagename shows you info about the package
[01:42] <Ap0s7le> !nvidia
[01:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <fiction_> Ok
[01:42] <Ap0s7le> OK thanks!
[01:42] <fiction_> im installing something and i came upon this:  "Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 "
[01:42] <lmao> is my hard drive moving much even if im not download (such as durring my 7 hour slumber?)
[01:42] <fiction_> how do i know which linux-image i have?
[01:42] <nikin> i ame so glad that i dont have any fancy videokard, just an intel XG2 :D
[01:43] <digitalhav0c> Im guessing here but who admins the proxy
[01:43] <AAA> fiction_  uname -r
[01:43] <lix> fiction_:uname -a
[01:43] <philippe_> jack do you have an idea
[01:43] <fiction_> thank you AAA and lix
[01:43] <jme> so, how do I make screenshots?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: Still looking for the md5 checksum for you
[01:43] <philippe_> a ok
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> got it one sec
[01:44] <lix> jme: gnome-screenshot ot input
[01:44] <Schumi> !nvidia > Ap0s7le
[01:44] <AAA> jme  apt-cache search screenshot :: take your pic
[01:44] <lix> s/ot/or
[01:44] <eternaljoy> anyone here using Dapper?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e     http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[01:44] <dou213> hmm, it doesn't find automatix in my repos when i do an apt-cache search automatix
[01:44] <eternaljoy> does anyone here use Linux?
[01:44] <jme> thanks, guys
[01:44] <lix> eternaljoy: most of us :)
[01:44] <fiction_> ok i got this now
[01:44] <AAA> what is this Linux?
[01:44] <fiction_> "E: I wasn't able to locate file for the linux-kernel-headers package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package."
[01:44] <jme> actually, alt-print screen does it!
[01:44] <fiction_> what the heck am i supposed to do
[01:44] <micahcowan> eternaljoy, almost everyone is using Linux, and many are using Dapper.
[01:45] <azureal> eternaljoy: ROFL
[01:45] <Ap0s7le> Thank you Schumi
[01:45] <eternaljoy> lix: really?
[01:45] <AAA> eternaljoy  what are you talking about?
[01:45] <lix> jme: true ;) *sigh*
[01:45] <jme> open source is for communists
[01:45] <fiction_> lol
[01:45] <AAA> haha
[01:45] <azureal> micahcowan: thx for your help before
[01:45] <acojlo> any expert on the subject of Powernowd, Cpufreqd and Laptop-mode?
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213: try #automatix
[01:45] <lix> eternaljoy: sure. so does mark shuttleworth
[01:45] <micahcowan> azureal, you did get my PM later, then?
[01:45] <AAA> acojlo  just RTFM for those fine programs
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> philippe_: Try burning it slower is my only suggestion
[01:45] <azureal> micahcowan: nod, i just commented out the %admin line
[01:46] <philippe_> ok thnakx
[01:46] <azureal> micahcowan: apparently it took some time for sudoers changes to take effect
[01:46] <philippe_> ill try it
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> AAA RTFM is nOT appreciated around here
[01:46] <micahcowan> azureal, apparently, it would have been acceptable to just move the user line below the %admin ine.
[01:46] <azureal> micahcowan: they don't do so immediately
[01:46] <lix> eternaljoy: what ar you using?
[01:46] <javiolo> hi
[01:46] <metalzelo> hey, I've installed ubuntu two days ago and I've removed the system tray from the panel by accident. Somehow I cant find the system tray at the "Add to Panel" list. So, where can I restore the system tray?
[01:46] <azureal> micahcowan: yes, perhaps, but this solution seems to work, so =)
[01:46] <AAA> Jack_Sparrow  it is wrong to read the manual? it is right to just blindly type stuff in a terminal?
[01:47] <micahcowan> azureal: I don't believe that's possible, given how sudo is implemented (BTW, I /do/ have Ubuntu at work now :-) )
[01:47] <fiction_> i do that
[01:47] <fiction_> i type away
[01:47] <azureal> haha
[01:47] <Ap0s7le> Basically what I'm needing to do is just get a Video card that would allow my TV to act as my monitor
[01:47] <micahcowan> azureal: (referring to delayed activation of sudoers file)
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> AAA it isnt up for discussion
[01:47] <acojlo> jme, acctualy every software is open source, but it makes difference is it open source just in software company or for whole world
[01:47] <javiolo> just upgraded yto 2.6.15-26 and I if do a uname -a it says 2.6.15-23 any idea ?
[01:47] <AAA> Jack_Sparrow  I understand your point though, and I certainly do help when I know the proper answer
[01:47] <azureal> micahcowan: the thing is, I had commented out the line, was somewhat upset that it didn't work, then left...
[01:47] <fiction_> javiolo, you might have to restart
[01:47] <acojlo> javiolo try 'sudo update-grub'
[01:47] <lix> acojlo: call it software libre :)
[01:47] <javiolo> fiction I restarted
[01:47] <eternaljoy> javiolo: yes
[01:47] <fiction_> then i dont know
[01:47] <azureal> micahcowan: I come back, see your PM, but try sudo anyway before making any changes -- it works =)
[01:48] <mwe> javiolo: yes you didn't reboot into that kernel
[01:48] <jme> acojlo: that's pretty pedantic -- the rest of us can look at the licensing
[01:48] <eternaljoy> javiolo: reboot
[01:48] <micahcowan> azureal... and then it didn't work? huh. beats me how that could happen...!
[01:48] <eternaljoy> javiolo: did you do a warm reboot?
[01:48] <fiction_> open counterstrike and press f10
[01:48] <javiolo> eternaljoy shutdown -r now
[01:48] <acojlo> javiolo: mwe has right - reboot
[01:48] <micahcowan> anyway, I'm glad you got it working. And I learned something new in the process :-)
[01:48] <eternaljoy> javiolo: pick the 2.6.15-26 from the boot menu
[01:48] <azureal> thus, it didn't work immediately =)
[01:48] <azureal> yea, i guess....
[01:48] <shiv> windows ntfs will not mount after todays updates. any help?
[01:48] <azureal> i learned that linux can be weird sometimes =P
[01:49] <javiolo> eternaljoy ok
[01:49] <eternaljoy> javiolo: your old kernel is still available grom the grub menu!
[01:49] <eternaljoy> javiolo: so, pick the 2.6.15-26 from the boot menu
[01:49] <Ap0s7le> I guess I'll try and get this crazy thing working. I hope I don't need anything else besides the card
[01:49] <AAA> shiv what errors do you get?
[01:49] <javiolo> have to reboot again
[01:49] <acojlo> shiv, what the heck have you done?
[01:49] <javiolo> thanks!
[01:49] <mwe> shiv: paste.ubuntu-nl.org your /etc/fstab
[01:49] <FuriousRage> and i learned linux doesnt work with my computer, and not im gonna learn how its to sleep for a few hours
[01:49] <fiction_> i finally got to install linux recently
[01:49] <metalzelo> hey, I've installed ubuntu two days ago and I've removed the system tray from the panel by accident. Somehow I cant find the system tray at the "Add to Panel" list. So, where can I restore the system tray?
[01:49] <fiction_> before, they wouldnt detect my hard drive
[01:49] <fiction_> tnone of them
[01:49] <metalzelo> someone haveing an idea?
[01:49] <michaeljb2006> metalzelo, it's there
[01:49] <fiction_> gentoo still doesn't
[01:49] <michaeljb2006> it's just not obvious which one it is
[01:50] <mwe> fiction_: it needs help sometimes
[01:50] <mercykiller> fiction_, what sort of hd do you have?
[01:50] <acojlo> metalzelo: do you use kde?
[01:50] <mercykiller> SATA2?
[01:50] <michaeljb2006> I forget, but when I get home I can check, but if you don't want to wait, just keep trying them til you find it
[01:50] <newuser1> Anyone know why a new install of ubuntu would fail to update?  Error says fails to connect to the server... Connection failed [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 
[01:50] <metalzelo> no, I use gnome
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: Dont blame all of linux for one built in nic card that isnt supported
[01:50] <fiction_> i have a SATA.
[01:50] <mwe> newuser1: network not up or mirror down
[01:50] <AAA> newuser1  you don't have an Inet connection?
[01:50] <fiction_> gentoo doesn't detect it and neither does debian
[01:50] <acojlo> metalzelo, You have two panels: one up and one down, try add panel on both of them
[01:50] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: so nForce4 isnt supported after all?
[01:50] <fiction_> it's odd
[01:51] <newuser1> I'm on the machine.  Firefox connects great
[01:51] <mercykiller> fiction_ That's strange, my SATA hds have been detected since late '04
[01:51] <acojlo> fiction, which sata?
[01:51] <jme> newuser1: sounds like a failure to connect to the server
[01:51] <mercykiller> ...which is when I bought them
[01:51] <mercykiller> heh
[01:51] <mwe> FuriousRage: it is
[01:51] <fiction_> mercykiller: odd. i bought this computer in october 2005
[01:51] <newuser1> Happens always..  three days now
[01:51] <metalzelo> there is no difference between the two Add Panel menues
[01:51] <mercykiller> fiction_: I've heard that SATA2 isn't supported...
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: NOt sure, some people have it working.. others spent $7 on a supported nic
[01:51] <fiction_> then maybe i have SATA2 and don't know
[01:51] <newuser1> Not sure what to tweak
[01:51] <shiv> mwe: I did that fstab
[01:52] <mercykiller> hmm
[01:52] <mwe> shiv: what?
[01:52] <AAA> newuser1  but you can connect to the web and ssh and whateverr? I would change your repo's in sources.list then
[01:52] <shiv> I posted my fstab
[01:52] <mwe> shiv: you pasted it?
[01:52] <shiv> ya
[01:52] <fiction_> if a distro doesn't detect a network card, can i force it to detect?
[01:52] <mwe> shiv: URL?
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[01:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:52] <mercykiller> fiction_: Try "modprobe -t net"
[01:52] <AAA> shiv mount -t ntfs /dev/foo /mnt/foo doesn't work?
[01:52] <fiction_> ill write tha down
[01:52] <javiolo> hi again
[01:52] <fiction_> hi
[01:52] <shiv> AAA: i do not get any errors
[01:52] <metalzelo> acojlo, any other idea?
[01:52] <newuser1> ???  repo's in sources.list ????
[01:52] <shiv> its just not there
[01:52] <acojlo> metalzelo, so you are sure it's called system tray?
[01:52] <mwe> shiv: paste the URL here. paste.buntu-nl.org/123456 or whatever
[01:53] <javiolo> rebooted and its the same, I didnt have the option to change the kernel boot
[01:53] <shiv> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19644
[01:53] <AAA> shiv what happens when you run the command (not mount -a)
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: you can use the diskmounter script to get that ntfs mounted
[01:53] <fiction_> can anyone tell me what 'breezy' is?
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[01:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:53] <acojlo> how to stop showing info about join/leave this channel?
[01:53] <metalzelo> with system tray I mean the list of programs which are running, eg, if you minimize gaim its just in the system tray
[01:53] <userundefine> fiction, it's the name of the previous ubuntu release
[01:53] <metalzelo> I think that the right word... but Im not quite sure
[01:53] <acojlo> fiction_: breezy is older version of ubuntu
[01:53] <fiction_> oh
[01:53] <XXS> hello :) i'm using ubuntu 6.06 and i wanna unpack rar-files. i've installed unrar-free (synaptic doesn't find other unrar-versions even though i've selected more packet-sources) but now i can't use unrar or unp in terminal... what to do :(?
[01:54] <fiction_> ok gonna try to install nvidia driver brb
[01:54] <javiolo> XXS add extras repos
[01:54] <shiv> I think I got it
[01:54] <nikin> where can i find detailed description about what is on the server cd?
[01:54] <shiv> Couldn't mount device '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[01:54] <shiv> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down a nd try again.
[01:54] <shiv> Mount failed.
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> xxs you should just be able to double click from gui
[01:54] <mwe> shiv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19646
[01:54] <shiv> I think I can take care of it
[01:54] <FuriousRage> ah well, i give up anyways, and going to bed
[01:54] <acojlo> metalzelo, I don't know, try reading careful if you haven't
[01:54] <javiolo> rebooted and its the same, I didnt have the option to change the kernel boot
[01:54] <acojlo> metalzelo, what that menu displayed for you?
[01:54] <AAA> shiv fsck the partition
[01:54] <mwe> shiv: change it to what I pasted
[01:54] <shiv> ok
[01:55] <shiv> AAA: ok
[01:55] <metalzelo> I've read carefully
[01:55] <richiefrich> http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/08/03/religion-and-linux/
[01:55] <nikin> javiolo press ESC after leaving BIOS screen
[01:55] <metalzelo> the menu displayed things like programs which are running in the background
[01:55] <mwe> AAA: do you think linux will fsck an NTFS partition?
[01:55] <javiolo> nikin no bios, its a mac
[01:56] <nikin> then when the boot begins
[01:56] <mwe> AAA: and what is ntfs-3g fs?
[01:56] <metalzelo> but I dont know a specific example cause I deleted it right at the beginning
[01:56] <nikin> just be fast
[01:56] <javiolo> ok
[01:56] <AAA> mwe I don't have fsck.ntfs on my system, I am not positive one exists
[01:56] <metalzelo> and I've been using kde before
[01:56] <mwe> AAA: I think not
[01:56] <shiv> mwe: u just removed the -3g?
[01:56] <metalzelo> so Im pretty new to gnome
[01:56] <mwe> shiv: no
[01:56] <Chris37879> hi all i have a quick question about getting wow to run run wine on ubuntu
[01:56] <acojlo> metalzelo: you mean programs you have started or system services?
[01:56] <metalzelo> yeah
[01:56] <mwe> shiv: changed umask to something sensible as well
[01:56] <AAA> mwe ntfs-3g fs?
[01:56] <shiv> aha
[01:56] <acojlo> metalzelo, no "yeah" I asked "this OR that"
[01:57] <mwe> AAA: that's what his fstab said. I think that's why it wouldn't mount
[01:57] <Chris37879> if anyone here has wow running on wine in ubuntu please give me a PM
[01:57] <XXS> Jack_Sparrow i can't open it from gui, it throws an error (nonsupported filetype)
[01:57] <metalzelo> oh, sorry.. mainly system services or programs running in background
[01:57] <XXS> javiolo what do you mean with "extras repos" ? Oo
[01:57] <AAA> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsck
[01:59] <acojlo> metalzelo, I don't know now - I'm 3 days at gnome. Wait and someone will help you. Try searching on google
[01:59] <AAA> mwe I thought there was...
[01:59] <lmao> how do i find my CPU specs ?
[01:59] <Remy> hi guys, has anyone used zsnes much ?
[01:59] <Remy> I'm having a problem with the sound...
[01:59] <Remy> ie, it's not working
[01:59] <theboywhogotlost> Hey, I need the source code for my kernal how do I get that?
[01:59] <AAA> lmao  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:59] <Remy> but it was working yesterday :(
[02:00] <Chris37879> i need help getting wine to run WoW.... any thoughts?
[02:00] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  download the kernel-source
[02:00] <metalzelo> acojlo: I've just found it :) dont know why I've never noticed it before, it is: Add to Panel - Notification Area
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lmao: are you in linux now?
[02:00] <ScoobyD00> hello - is there a server specific IRC channel?
[02:00] <Chris37879> or if someone could give me the dir that synaptic stores the debs it dl's in
[02:00] <metalzelo> acojlo: thanks for your help, and its the same for me, its my 3rd day of gnome :)
[02:00] <steve> Can someone help me my monitor keeps flickering white lines...
[02:01] <longwave> Chris37879: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:01] <theboywhogotlost> AAA how do I do that?
[02:01] <AAA> apt uses /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:01] <user1> hello all
[02:01] <theboywhogotlost> Where do I do that?
[02:01] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  you can use apt to do it or ftp to ftp.kernel.org
[02:01] <Chris37879> longwave&AAA: thanks
[02:02] <user1> I am trying to use Dump but it looks like it is not loaded
[02:02] <user1> is it still used much?
[02:02] <shiv> mwe: this is what I get
[02:02] <shiv> shiv@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a
[02:02] <shiv> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[02:02] <shiv>        missing codepage or other error
[02:02] <shiv>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:02] <shiv>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:02] <MarcN> user1: apt-cache search dump |grep ^dump will show you the package name
[02:03] <longwave> user1: dump is available in universe
[02:03] <user1> cool thanks
[02:03] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 (or whatever version you need)
[02:03] <ScoobyD00> anyone have any experience installing GFS / RH cluster suite?
[02:03] <ttyfscker> whats that thing i seen for automatic sources.list on here.. there was a ! trigger for it
[02:03] <longwave> shiv: paste the /dev/hda1 line from your /etc/fstab
[02:03] <ttyfscker> !source-o-matic
[02:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:03] <ttyfscker> yea that was it
[02:03] <AAA> shiv _I_ would apt-get install ntfsprogs and try to fsck that partition YMMV
[02:03] <Schumi> does anyone know why when I goto add repositories in synaptic manager, universe and multiverse don't stay checked?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lmao: To find Kernel info Use Terminal and type uname --help or -a for all info will give basic cpu info
[02:04] <shiv> longwave: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    silent,umask=0222,locale=en_US.utf8    0    0
[02:04] <AAA> Jack_Sparrow  lmao cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:05] <mrJungle> does anyone have a copy of the windows NX Client version 1.5 installer?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: this is what I have if that helps /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[02:05] <longwave> shiv: what are the silent and locale options? they are not in the mount manpage
[02:05] <fiction> yay, installing nvidia didn't work
[02:05] <shiv> I think I will just reboot to windows and shut it down properly
[02:05] <ryanakca_> When I try to quit bzflag, the application hangs. I can't switch for vt1-6, and I can only access the box threw ssh. I've run "killall bzflag" and "ps aux | grep bzflag" "kill -9 <PID>". hasn't done anything. what else can I do?
[02:06] <fiction> all i want to do in linux is use the net and install a python idle so i can program in python
[02:06] <fiction> is that too much to ask =( lol
[02:06] <fiction> i cant seem to do it
[02:06] <Chris37879> ok... well that idea flopped.... anyone have a good working knowledge of makefiles and all the crap that can go wrong... i need help installing wine
[02:06] <fiction> !nvidia
[02:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:06] <AAA> fiction  that sure seems simple enough, what is the problem?
[02:06] <ryanakca_> fiction: what's wrong?
[02:06] <longwave> Chris37879: any reason you aren't installing wine from a package instead?
[02:06] <fiction> Well for now i am trying to install my nvidia driver
[02:06] <fiction> 6600gr
[02:06] <fiction> gt*
[02:06] <micahcowan> fiction, did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[02:06] <scrappy_> fiction: the nvidia installer requires some tweaking id just use the ubuntu package
[02:07] <fiction> Yes
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> fict I have 6600 pci-e
[02:07] <fiction> i am going to re-read it
[02:07] <Chris37879> longwave; yeah need to do the world of warcraft patch
[02:07] <fiction> scrappy_: i am man.
[02:07] <AAA> fiction  well, not to be an $@#$ but, you don't need video drivers to do what you want ;>
[02:07] <fiction> lol i know
[02:07] <fiction> but the resolution is bad
[02:07] <AAA> :)
[02:07] <tsume> oi
[02:07] <longwave> Chris37879: ok, you have make installed and some output, i take it? pastebin the error for us to see
[02:07] <fiction> i cant work in these noob resolution -_-
[02:07] <fiction> resolutions*
[02:08] <fiction> the max resolution isn't available for selection
[02:08] <AAA> fiction  did you get the driver from Nvidia? I have never had a problem with it (Non-free)
[02:08] <Chris37879> longwave: would you mind if i pmed you?
[02:08] <fiction> AAA: i did what !nvidia bot told me
[02:08] <fiction> but the thing is
[02:08] <fiction> when it told me to do the kernel part
[02:08] <fiction> i had 3 of them
[02:08] <fiction> so i installed all 3
[02:08] <AAA> d0h
[02:08] <fiction> rofl
[02:08] <fiction> id idnt know which
[02:08] <fiction> three of them ended in 386
[02:08] <AAA> k, hold
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> WIne is what a user does trying to get his WIndows games to run undr Linux
[02:09] <fiction> so i clicked them all
[02:09] <Schumi> anyone have Gnome Art installed?
[02:09] <longwave> Chris37879: if you want, though it may be easier to talk in here in case i can't help but someone else can
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> or try #Wine
[02:09] <fiction> ok guys. list things wish you could do in ubuntu that you can't ATM
[02:09] <fiction> 1) allow _ in usernames
[02:10] <fiction> that is all. everything else is pretty nice to me
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic > fiction:
[02:10] <AAA> fiction  sounds like you have module hell going on, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should give you some insight as to what is going on
[02:10] <fiction> ok ok sorry
[02:10] <fiction> alright AAA. i will go check
[02:10] <ryanakca_> not #wine, #winehq
[02:11] <AAA> fiction  also did you change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to reflect the new driver?
[02:11] <acojlo> gnome and special laptop keys (mail, web) - xmodmap or something else?
[02:11] <fiction> AAA: nope. im going to go check that file now
[02:11] <scrappy_> fiction: i did basically this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper Method 2  and installed fine
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> AAA: that is the step many forget to do.
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> AAA: I have 6600 here and followed the same steps and works great
[02:12] <fiction> Scrappy
[02:12] <AAA> fiction  you may also have kernel drivers loading at boot that are causing a problem /etc/modules*
[02:12] <ryanakca_> fiction: the reason "_" isn't allowed in usernames is because not all applications support usernames with "_"... look on launchpad, someone filed a bug about it, and the steps to enable that. ex: gnome user addremove doesn't support usernames with "_", wether or not it's enabled on the system
[02:12] <fiction> you followed the instructions on the unbuntu wiki pages?
[02:12] <AAA> fiction  me? no. I don't follow directions very well ;)
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> I did yes
[02:12] <fiction> ryabakca: thanks =). coudln't understand why it wouldnt allow it
[02:13] <fiction> lol AAA
[02:13] <acojlo> I had problem with gnome and slow window redrawing. You know what was the cause? Powernowd was starting with conservative cpufreq module.
[02:13] <vdepizzol> My ubuntu can't start. It stop with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19648
[02:13] <AAA> fiction  I do troubleshoot my own work OFTEN
[02:13] <scrappy_> fiction: no but the bad thing about the way i did it is i have to redo everytime i upgrade kernel
[02:13] <fiction> scrappy_: that doesnt sound too convenient =(
[02:13] <fiction> hey Jack_Sparrow
[02:13] <AAA> vdepizzol  are you trying to boot of your cd? that is where it seems to point
[02:14] <fiction> step 6: Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[02:14] <fiction> when i did that, i saw 3 kernels that ended in 386
[02:14] <fiction> i checked all 3
[02:14] <vdepizzol> AAA: no, I'm booting from the hard drive
[02:14] <AAA> fiction  uname -r will give you yuor running kernel
[02:14] <fiction> should i delete two of them?
[02:14] <fiction> yes AAA
[02:14] <fiction> also
[02:14] <fiction> when i rebooted
[02:14] <AAA> vdepizzol  linux doesn't seem to think so
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: did you verify the checksum on that cd else it may be a bad cdrom from that error
[02:14] <fiction> GRUB gave me 3 kernels to choose from
[02:15] <fiction> should i uninstall the two kernels with the lowest version numbers?
[02:15] <AAA> fiction  check dmesg after boot and see what it loaded.  also check /etc/modules and make sure the modules you want are there, and the ones you don't are not
[02:15] <vdepizzol> Jack_Sparrow: sorry?
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: IS there any cd in that drive?
[02:15] <longwave> vdepizzol: does it actually hang there, or does it carry on booting? from what i can tell that message shouldn't stop the boot, just your cd drive probably won't work
[02:15] <vdepizzol> no
[02:15] <jroes> is there any way to set specific (faster) mirrors?
[02:15] <AAA> fiction  you only want to use modules in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[02:16] <Remy> anyone got any ideas why the sound might not be working in zsnes?
[02:16] <vdepizzol> longwave: hang there
[02:16] <fiction> okay
[02:16] <scrappy_> fiction: i think something like sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[02:16] <AAA> vdepizzol  what option do you select in the grub boot menu (when you start your computer)
[02:16] <fiction> ill try
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: But it was working, ?  DId you change anything or upgrade?
[02:16] <typhoid> so, xmms is nice player,  i like it a lot..  but what is a good player for like, library management?  something that auto-arranges files and what not
[02:16] <pussfeller> anyone can tell my why enemy territory is so choppy and the shapes are blurring, i have an nvidia and q3 works fine
[02:16] <AAA> vdepizzol  yeah, is this a fresh install? first boot?
[02:17] <dribble> so, when synaptic's upgrade applet complains about the upgrades "NOT AUTHENTICATED" is this due to the repo problems today?
[02:17] <scrappy_> typhoid: alot of people like amarok lots of features
[02:17] <fiction> AAA: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is already the newest version.
[02:17] <fiction> ok
[02:17] <typhoid> thanks scrappy!
[02:17] <singamayya> typhoid: mpd
[02:17] <fiction> now should i uninstall modules with lower versions than that one?
[02:17] <vdepizzol> Jack_Sparrow: I reinstalled the xserver yesterday
[02:17] <AAA> ok fiction, find /lib/modules/ -name nv*
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: INfo like that does help at the beginning of a question..
[02:18] <typhoid> ararok / mpd?   which is the best?
[02:18] <fiction> AAA: some lines showed up
[02:18] <shiv> Just wanted to tell that just a restart into windows and then back to ubuntu worked fine
[02:18] <fiction> lol
[02:18] <fiction> !paste AAA > find /lib/modules/ -name nv*
[02:18] <shiv> did not change fstab and kept everything the way it was
[02:18] <fiction> wait
[02:18] <AAA> shiv my bet is fsck.ntfs will clear that next time
[02:18] <greenwom> my wireless card stopped working?  first steps to recovery?
[02:18] <shiv> I see
[02:18] <vdepizzol> AAA, I use installed this ubuntu two months ago
[02:18] <aStRaLgOd> hey guys is there a way to change permissions on a folder and all it's subfolders?
[02:18] <longwave> vdepizzol: can you physically unplug the cd drive or disable it in the bios, if so does it boot then?
[02:18] <fiction> !paste nu@localhost:~$ find /lib/modules/ -name nv*
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/char/nvram.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[02:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste nu@localhost:~$ find /lib/modules/ -name nv* - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/char/nvram.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/nvidia_legacy.ko
[02:18] <AAA> stop!
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[02:18] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/char/nvram.ko
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > fiction
[02:19] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[02:19] <aStRaLgOd> ERROR: FLOOD DETECTED!
[02:19] <fiction> /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[02:19] <fiction>  > AAA
[02:19] <vdepizzol> longwave: I'll try that
[02:19] <typhoid> fiction?
[02:19] <fiction> thats what i got AAA
[02:19] <user1> hello again I am trying to do a cache search, but I am getting a couldn't stat source package
[02:19] <VoX> fiction: do not do that again. ever.
[02:19] <shiv> AAA: I was too lazy to wait for a shut down from windows so just held the power button and I am not sure what it messed up
[02:19] <fiction> !paste > fiction
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> fiction... Please use pastebin next time
[02:19] <jayk-> how do i reconfigure my xserver?
[02:19] <fiction> i tried
[02:19] <AAA> shiv silly winders
[02:19] <greenwom> my wireless card stopped working?  first steps to recovery?
[02:19] <fiction> !paste > Jack_Sparrow test
[02:19] <jayk-> is there a program i can run that will probe my video card?
[02:19] <fiction> did that work jack?
[02:19] <scrappy_> greenwom: what kind of card?
[02:20] <longwave> jayk-: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:20] <AAA> fiction  lsmod|grep nv
[02:20] <Zambezi> fiction, www.pastebin.ca
[02:20] <greenwom> adm8211 based crap brand
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:20] <scrappy_> greenwom: did you upgrade kernel or anything recently?
[02:20] <greenwom> ya
[02:20] <AAA> fiction  I would like to see your X.org log
[02:20] <aStRaLgOd> fiction: lol you're setting yourself for a kick :) just an fyi
[02:20] <greenwom> installed samba
[02:20] <greenwom> also
[02:20] <shiv> has an body worked out how to download US maps in gpsdrive. My hardware works fine. I just need the maps now
[02:20] <scrappy_> greenwom: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` might fix
[02:20] <fiction> astral_god it wasn accident
[02:20] <aStRaLgOd> its' ok
[02:20] <fiction> i didnt know how to paste to one specific person
[02:20] <AAA> greenwom  your wifi card just magically stopped working?
[02:20] <aStRaLgOd> :)
[02:20] <greenwom> thanks I'll try
[02:20] <fiction> !paste > AAA nvidia               4550772  0
[02:20] <fiction> i2c_core               21904  2 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia
[02:20] <fiction> agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[02:21] <fiction> did that go to everyone?
[02:21] <AAA> yeah
[02:21] <fiction> or just AAA
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:21] <fiction> crap
[02:21] <fiction> AAA
[02:21] <AAA> use pastebin
[02:21] <fiction> ill just PM you
[02:21] <AAA> there
[02:21] <aStRaLgOd> fiction: Just don't paste multiple lines in mirc, wether you're in a private message or in a channel m8 :)
[02:21] <scrappy_> fiction: try paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:21] <fiction> atralgod: i tried using the !paste function, but didnt work
[02:21] <greenwom> scrappy (if the box if offline how do I get the package? easily
[02:21] <longwave> fiction: to use the pastebin, open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, paste the text in there and then paste the link it gives you in here
[02:21] <fiction> alright
[02:22] <fiction> sorry all
[02:22] <chicken_Fire> Hello, can someone please tell me what FOSS is?
[02:22] <fiction> also, while at it: when i try to open a link someone typed on ehre
[02:22] <scrappy_> greenwom: thats a problem :) you could go to packages.ubuntu.com i think and download the deb just do uname -r in the ubuntu box and make sure you get those restricted modules
[02:22] <user1> hello again I am trying to do a cache search, but I am getting a couldn't stat source package
[02:22] <fiction> i get an error
[02:22] <AAA> It does make it a PITA to read everyone else when fiction spams =p
[02:22] <mistform> chicken_fire it's Failure Of Social Society
[02:22] <mistform> j/k idfk
[02:22] <fiction> lol
[02:22] <AAA> user1  apt-cache search foo
[02:23] <gnomefreak> !floss > chicken_Fire
[02:23] <fiction> to me
[02:23] <gnomefreak> chicken_Fire: read your pm
[02:23] <AAA> free open source software
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: fLoss
[02:23] <mistform> !floss > mistform
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[02:23] <thejusticecow> !gaim
[02:23] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:24] <AAA> !ian
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about ian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:24] <AAA> !deb
[02:24] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[02:24] <gnomefreak> AAA: dont play with the biot
[02:24] <gnomefreak> s/boit/bot
[02:24] <AAA> just curious if it knows deb and ian
[02:25] <gnomefreak> AAA: use /msg ubotu <what you want to know>
[02:25] <naga44> booohooo...anyone use ndiswrapper in 6.06 ?
[02:25] <shiv> is there a GUI for gpsbabel?
[02:25] <naga44> im trying to but my wirless cards light just stays solid
[02:25] <user1> AAA: that did not help I am still getting the same error
[02:25] <mistform> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[02:25] <theboywhogotlost> whats in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build ?
[02:25] <chicken_Fire> thank you for your participation, only one good answer ;))
[02:25] <theboywhogotlost> I need it to install a driver
[02:26] <mistform> I have a Dell WLAN card (Broadcom chipset) and alot of people told me not to use ndiswrapper
[02:26] <vdepizzol> Jack_Sparrow: I disable the cd via BIOS and ubuntu started, but showed the message: "A reception program seems crashed. Try to use another different"
[02:26] <longwave> user1: try running apt-get update then do another search
[02:26] <AAA> user1  hrm. that should work even if you are updating
[02:26] <aStRaLgOd> hey guys is there a way to change permissions on a folder and all it's subfolders?
[02:26] <fiction> chmod
[02:26] <AAA> chmod -R foo
[02:26] <aStRaLgOd> lol okay thanks
[02:26] <naga44> mistform   its a usb us robotics 802.11g
[02:26] <user1> AAA: ok thanks
[02:26] <AAA> aStRaLgOd  the -R is recursive
[02:26] <aStRaLgOd> Cool thx :)
[02:27] <vdepizzol> Jack_Sparrow: and this error too: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9343/screenshotzr1.png
[02:27] <user1> Longwave: thanks
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: looks like a cdrom/hardware issue if it got past the rerror
[02:27] <theboywhogotlost> whats in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build
[02:27] <naga44> i have used ndiswrapper on a bunch of distros including debian and i nopw am having trouble on 6.06 ubuntu
[02:27] <Howitzer> Does anybody know how to import a newsserver to Pan?
[02:27] <naga44> cant find anything oon forums
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[02:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <fiction> guys
[02:28] <fiction> when i click a link in here
[02:28] <fiction> it says
[02:28] <longwave> naga44 there are some good wifi docs on the wiki
[02:28] <naga44> hmm
[02:28] <greenwom> scrappy, the restricted modules aren't there?  are the restricted repos somewhere else
[02:28] <fiction> naga
[02:28] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  I believe that is a symlink to the kernel version?
[02:28] <fiction> i used ndiswrapper here and it worked for me
[02:28] <Tmob> i can't seem to edit m4a file tags in easytag.. anyone know if they see the same?
[02:29] <naga44> fiction: what were the steps to get your card up and running?
[02:29] <Zambezi> I'm trying to remove a deb-packages I installed with dpkg, but it won't disappear. Can I erase every files manually? apt-get remove, dpkg -r doesn't work.
[02:29] <fiction> naga44: go to  > system > networking and make sure you selected the default gateway device
[02:29] <fiction> in accordance(if thats a word) with what iwconfig gives you
[02:29] <AAA> Zambezi  dpkg --purge <pkg>
[02:29] <ryanakca_> Zambezi: ummm... no
[02:29] <BeepAU> hey everyone, what application should i use for media? i'm new to linux.
[02:29] <ryanakca_> Zambezi: dpkg -P packagename
[02:29] <naga44> fiction ...done
[02:29] <ryanakca_> Zambezi: or what AAA said
[02:29] <AAA> BeepAU  mplayer/gmplayer
[02:30] <scrappy_> greenwom: i did a search from the site for the word restricted and found a bunch
[02:30] <fiction> naga44: also check the properties
[02:30] <naga44> yah...
[02:30] <scrappy_> greenwom: what kernel are you using?
[02:30] <vdepizzol> Jack_Sparrow: what I do??
[02:30] <fiction> still not working?
[02:30] <AAA> Zambezi  IIRC --purge only deletes the configuration files, you still have to apt-get remove <pkg>
[02:31] <Howitzer> Hello?, could somebody point me to a newsgroup FAQ?, i can't really find any
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: I would swap in a different cdrom if you have one around
[02:31] <fiction> naga44:  no luck?
[02:31] <theboywhogotlost> AAA how do I create a symlink?
[02:31] <naga44> nope
[02:31] <naga44> light just stays on
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> vdepizzol: also verify the jumper settings
[02:31] <AAA> vdepizzol  or just disable it in the bios to troubleshoot
[02:31] <fiction> naga44: maybe youre doing ndiswrapper wrong?
[02:31] <user1> Longwave:AAA: that worked, thanks alot
[02:31] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  ln -s file1 file2
[02:31] <AAA> user1  w00
[02:31] <livingdaylig> how do i chagne login page?
[02:31] <vdepizzol> AAA, I disable it, but I got a lot of errors
[02:31] <naga44> ive used it on 5 other distros with no probs
[02:31] <BeepAU> AAA -- ok, i'll check it out. thankyou.
[02:32] <AAA> vdepizzol  did ubuntu boot?
[02:32] <vdepizzol> yes
[02:32] <romulo> hi, how do i configure firestarter to use 2 ethernet cards(network) instead of only one??? im using 3 cards on this computer =P
[02:32] <AAA> vdepizzol  you may have to boot into single user mode and edit your grub
[02:32] <vdepizzol> AAA, problem starting gdm, problem with XKB (http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9343/screenshotzr1.png), video
[02:33] <vdepizzol> AAA, I'm booting from floppy to test
[02:33] <AAA> vdepizzol  ok, you prolly want to swap out your cdrom drive.  the X issue is something else entirely
[02:34] <peace-keeper> why stupid openssh asks me for password every 5 seconds ?
[02:34] <dou213> hey guys, i can't apt-get update && apt-get upgrade without logging in with the admin account through "sudo -i"
[02:34] <AAA> peace-keeper  what?
[02:34] <BeepAU> is it possible to have bookmarks or similar in chatzilla? should i just use mozilla browser to keep them?
[02:34] <Kyral> dou213: preface the command with sudo :P
[02:34] <peace-keeper> ah nevermind, i'm just playing with CVS
[02:34] <dou213> Kyral, did that
[02:34] <Zambezi> ryanakca, I have the name of the deb-file, but I should write sudo dkpg -P gftp?
[02:34] <Kyral> dou213: thats the idea then :P
[02:34] <Kyral> !root
[02:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:34] <AAA> peace-keeper  what kind of connection? I have _never_ had that problem and I use ssh daily
[02:34] <vdepizzol> AAA, I'll reinstall ubuntu
[02:34] <selfharm> i installed server edition, got it up and running in command line, used apt to install ubuntu-desktop and restarted. now, it hangs up at a black screen. any help??
[02:35] <Schumi> !ruby
[02:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ruby - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:35] <AAA> vdepizzol  as you wish, practice makes perfect :)
[02:35] <vdepizzol> :)
[02:35] <peace-keeper> it asked me 4 times for my password when browsing my cvs repository
[02:35] <peace-keeper> in eclipse
[02:35] <vdepizzol> selfharm: type "gdm" to start ubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <Schumi> !gnome art
[02:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnome art - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:35] <dou213> Kyral, doesn't work... w8, i'll c/p the error
[02:35] <AAA> selfharm  start with the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:36] <dou213> sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <scrappy_> selfharm: are you getting a login prompt at all?
[02:36] <dou213> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:36] <dou213> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:36] <theboywhogotlost> please set KERNELPATH.
[02:36] <theboywhogotlost> How do I set the KERNELPATH?
[02:36] <Kyral> measn that Apt-get is running elsewhere
[02:36] <selfharm> vdepizzol, i can't type anything. its got a white _, but its not blinking. no keystrokes are recorded...
[02:36] <AAA> peace-keeper  try using a key instead?
[02:36] <Kyral> maybe Synaptic or Adept
[02:36] <peace-keeper> a key?
[02:36] <selfharm> no login prompt at all
[02:36] <AAA> peace-keeper  an rsa/dsa key
[02:37] <selfharm> i get teh ubuntu image, i get some things loading, then the screen goes black with a white, frozen _
[02:37] <peace-keeper> hmm i'm pretty new to cvs :)
[02:37] <scrappy_> selfharm: alt-ctrl-f2 and login then sudo nano /etc/
[02:37] <scrappy_> selfharm: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and
[02:37] <AAA> peace-keeper  cvs is deprecated (almost) subversion is what the kids are using these days
[02:37] <peace-keeper> yeah i heard that, but my provider has only cvs :(
[02:38] <romulo> anyone knows how i export the current iptables rules??
[02:38] <grte> Hey, can anyone tell me the command to reconfigure xorg?
[02:38] <AAA> peace-keeper  hehe, then bug your ISP to fix it for you ;)
[02:38] <janga> grte : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <bugihugi> romulo: iptables-save
[02:38] <scrappy_> selfharm: maybe check what driver youre using .. change it to vesa and maybe default depth to 16
[02:38] <grte> janga: Thanks.
[02:38] <romulo> bugihugi: thanks
[02:38] <AAA> grte  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[02:38] <bugihugi> romulo: iptables-save < exportfile
[02:39] <bugihugi> romulo: sorry, iptables-save > exportfile
[02:39] <bugihugi> then iptables-restore < exportfile to restore from file
[02:39] <scrappy_> selfharm: i also had a problem where i had to restart gdm everytime i rebooted so might just be sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:40] <selfharm> gonna try booting into Ubuntu recovery mode...
[02:40] <peace-keeper> aww cvs is fine for me, i dont care what everyone else uses :D
[02:41] <selfharm> i cant do anything, it gets to the ubuntu loading graphic for about 20 seconds, then the screen goes black. I cant type anything or do anything except for reboot
[02:41] <janga> selfhatm: what happens if you hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:42] <mist_> anyone here in ##Linux?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Hmm?
[02:42] <mist_> I need to boot my old nick, I timed out, and it's still connected
[02:42] <XXS> hello again, still using ubuntu 6.06 ;) what process is metacity? it uses 20% cpu... :/
[02:42] <selfharm> nothing janga
[02:42] <Kyral> mist_: is it registered with NickServ?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> mist_,  /msg nickserv help
[02:42] <mist_> yes
[02:42] <grte> Okay...Anyone know that command that allows you to choose your default applications?
[02:43] <fiction> grte: theres a default aplication program
[02:43] <mist_> do I ghost?
[02:43] <Kyral> mist_: /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>
[02:43] <grte> fiction: Yeah, but there's a particular command I'm after.
[02:43] <Kyral> now just change nicks as normal
[02:43] <regress> hey all, I installed 6.06, everything worked beautifully, I left it for two weeks, and now when I turn it on there's no network connection
[02:43] <regress> it's not pulling an ip
[02:43] <mistform> ok
[02:43] <mistform> ty guys
[02:44] <Kyral> Though I've used it to kill people before
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> regress,  check the obvious yet? dog dident chew through a cable?
[02:44] <fiction> regress: try doing a dhclient ath0
[02:44] <Kyral> idiot tried to make fun of me with one of my alt nicks
[02:44] <Kyral> hehe
[02:45] <regress> Dr_Willis: yeah, checked it...there's a solid light on the nic, just no activity. I switched network cables with a working workstation next to it, same issue
[02:45] <regress> fiction: I'll try that
[02:45] <AAA> fiction  funny, I just did that ;)
[02:45] <fiction> AAA: =)
[02:45] <regress> is that' ath0 or eth0?
[02:45] <fiction> regress: make sure ath0 is your NIC card. if youre not sure, do iwconfig
[02:46] <fiction> regress: type iwconfig and the information will show up next to aht0 or eth0
[02:46] <mistform> omg, 50 updates :p
[02:46] <AAA> regress  depends on your device atheros?
[02:46] <regress> just a built-in nic...
[02:46] <AAA> eth0
[02:46] <regress> yeah, eth0 did it
[02:47] <regress> thanks
[02:47] <AAA> regress  ifconfig -a will show you all the nic you have drivers for
[02:47] <regress> now...let's see how it goes...
[02:47] <selfharm> could i have a graphics issue? i log into recovery mode and everything went find. i was at command line. i did "gdm" and now i have a frozen black screen again...
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[02:47] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:47] <fiction> zomg! i think i installed the nvidia driver
[02:47] <regress> what is this output that's coming out of this...DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to ....
[02:47] <regress> ?
[02:47] <fiction> i have to restart x but im too lazy
[02:48] <aStRaLgOd> damn.... ya know, Unix is pretty much ready for everyone.... the only thing it really needs, is support from all the hw vendors <.<
[02:48] <fiction> regress
[02:48] <aStRaLgOd> Wait, not unix
[02:48] <aStRaLgOd> Linux
[02:48] <fiction> when you see the output stops, test your connection
[02:48] <fiction> should be working
[02:48] <regress> no DHCPOFFERS received...damnit, why is my router being lazy
[02:48] <selfharm> you all see that Ubuntu advertisement on the side of the road?
[02:48] <janga> selfharm: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg in textmode
[02:48] <selfharm> will do janga
[02:48] <bioticpro> anyone tried these? http://www.seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html
[02:48] <Schumi> !ntfs
[02:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:48] <AAA> regress  mii-tool
[02:49] <AAA> regress  do you have a link?
[02:49] <janga> selfharm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <janga> selfharm: typo
[02:50] <regress> AAA: how can I tell if I have a link?
[02:50] <AAA> regress  mii-tool
[02:50] <AAA> regress  it defaults to your working nic
[02:51] <bioticpro> Get E17 ubuntu packages here - http://www.seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html
[02:51] <janga> is anyone an expert with powernowd + PIII M ?
[02:51] <Heston> what is the password for root on the 5.10 livecd?
[02:51] <AAA> Heston  there is not one
[02:51] <regress> I'll try setting a static ip first
[02:51] <Heston> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ su
[02:51] <Heston> Password:
[02:51] <Heston> su: Authentication failure
[02:51] <Heston> i just pressed enter
[02:51] <janga> doesnt work for me
[02:52] <AAA> Heston  sudo passwd
[02:52] <AAA> Heston  you have to activate the account first
[02:52] <Heston> oh ok
[02:52] <Heston> thanks
[02:52] <AAA> silly ubuntu
[02:52] <AAA> np
[02:52] <scrappy_> Heston: or use sudo -s if you dont want to enable root
[02:52] <regress> yup, that did it
[02:53] <regress> forget dhcp, don't wanna deal with it
[02:53] <regress> thanks AAA
[02:53] <AAA> scrappy_  sudo -s will only give you a shell with your current user perms
[02:53] <Heston> sudo passwd worked
[02:53] <peace-keeper> sudo su
[02:53] <AAA> regress  then edit your /etc/network/interfaces and put your config there (where it belongs!)
[02:53] <axolx> hey guys - i want to install ubuntu in a server to take advantage of a Pentium D 930, in 64bit mode. i also want to setup raid. is all this well supported? if do, what ISO do i download for this purpose?
[02:53] <Jammie> anyone wanna help me with this partition stuff
[02:53] <ProN00b> how can i make sure my pppoe connection always stays up ?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> axolx,  the alternate install cd - i think.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> axolx,  i think thats needed for raid setup for one.
[02:54] <scrappy_> AAA: i kind of like that ~/ and stuff still works
[02:54] <axolx> Dr_Willis: which archtecture? x86 or AMD64?
[02:54] <nikin> where can i find detailed information about the server CD? what is on it, what does it install, and alike
[02:54] <AAA> Jammie  whats the dealio?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> axolx,  x86 is 32bit... so logicially ya need the amd64
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:55] <AAA> scrappy_  mmmm bash completion
[02:55] <Jammie> I need help with the partition I have 2 partitons one a 6gig for windows an one a 21 gig i am trying to install ubuntu on an i have no idea what i am doing
[02:55] <axolx> Dr_Willis: thanks. well it seemed weird to download an AMD iso for an intel chip, so i figured i ask :)
[02:56] <AAA> Jammie  ah, I have not dual booted for a while, I am not sure the steps you need to take
[02:56] <Jammie> :(
[02:56] <AAA> Jammie  but I believe the ubuntu installer is smart enough to do it for you
[02:56] <Jammie> it wants to do the whole 30gig an i dont want it to
[02:56] <Jammie> :p
[02:56] <AAA> I just can't remember if you want to load windows are linux first (Ithink it depends on your ver of winders)
[02:57] <selfharm> ""the display driver has been shutdown about 6 times in the last 90 seconds. it is likley that something bad is going on. waiting 2 minutes before trying something again""
[02:57] <AAA> !dual boot
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual boot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:57] <bayzider> ok i have a dual boot with windows and ubuntu and my sound card is not installed so i cant find out what one i have. However it works with out the drivers in ubuntu so is there any way i could find out witch one  i have with out opening up my compy
[02:57] <janga> Jammie: you have to select manual partitioning
[02:57] <AAA> bayzider  well, lspci -vv will tell you exactly what you have if you are booted to linux
[02:58] <Jammie> yes i got that far :)
[02:58] <bayzider> boot into linux on and terminal lspci -vv?
[02:58] <Jammie> but i am not sure on how to set up the rest because when i do the delete one partition then the add new it wants to install on the 6gig
[02:58] <janga> jammie so select the 21 gig and format as /
[02:58] <Jammie> right now i am on the live
[02:59] <AAA> Jammie  you need a swap parttion (about 2x your RAM size upto 1024M) and you need a / filesystem
[02:59] <cowmilk2> i have just formatted and/or partitioned a 2nd internal harddrive and i'm wondering why my 12.3 gb hard drive has only 11 gigs free. is it normal to have 1 gib unusable?
[02:59] <Jammie> yea thats what i am stuck on
[02:59] <dou213> how can i create another partition?
[02:59] <Rui> Hello. I don't know if this is the appropriate channel for this kind of questions... Anyway, I can't rsync from rsync://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu since July 27th. What's going wrong?
[02:59] <AAA> Jammie  basically you will need your winders (/dev/hda1) your root (/dev/hda2) and your swap (/dev/hda3)
[02:59] <Jammie> let me try to mess with it if all else false i will do the whole 30gig
[03:00] <Willys_fuegu> its hard to upgrade a kernel?
[03:00] <Jammie> but see it has windows hda1 then a boot as hda2 then something else hda3 then the 21 gig as hda4
[03:00] <AAA> Jammie  no! you can keep your other stuff, just make a swap and a / partition
[03:00] <AAA> Jammie  can you paste your fdisk -l /dev/hda in paste-bin?
[03:01] <Jammie> just a sec
[03:02] <blinker> erm...i broke ubuntu...
[03:02] <Jammie> its running live cd wont let me open :p
[03:02] <blinker> heh
[03:02] <Schumi> does anybody in here know how to use Ruby .rb files? as in setup.rb?
[03:02] <Jammie> ima mess with it an see what i can figure out bb if i dont get it
[03:02] <blinker> what would cause gnome login to fail despite correct login information?
[03:03] <AAA> blinker  w000 that is the best way to learn IMHO
[03:03] <blinker> yep
[03:03] <roostishaw> anyone, is there a bash command to lookup a hostname, and "translate" it to an ip?
[03:03] <dou213> how can i create another partition like /home?
[03:03] <AAA> blinker  are you trying to use root?
[03:03] <AAA> roostishaw  host
[03:03] <roostishaw> AAA, thank you
[03:03] <AAA> roostishaw  or dig
[03:04] <blinker> i'm just trying to log into gnome on boot using normal login info (acct created during install, so yeah, prolly root)
[03:04] <Willys_fuegu> its hard to upgrade a kernel?
[03:04] <AAA> blinker  no, not root. can you <alt><ctrl>F1 and log into a VT?
[03:04] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  depends on how you do it
[03:05] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  usually an apt-get upgrade will just do it for you (if there is a newer kernel available)
[03:05] <blinker> didnt know to try, heh.
[03:05] <Sir> Hello Ubuntu users.
[03:06] <AAA> blinker  yeah ubuntu makes a user account and leaves the root disabled
[03:06] <blinker> but i can enter recovery mode and delete files...happened after i ran out of space on the frive
[03:06] <AAA> Sir  hi
[03:06] <Willys_fuegu> AAA: that comand upgrades the entire system?
[03:06] <AAA> blinker  try the VT
[03:06] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  yes sir
[03:06] <blinker> alright, bbl
[03:06] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  you can apt-get install <kernel version> as well
[03:06] <AAA> l8r blinker
[03:07] <tivoklr> question for ya
[03:07] <Thiago> como eu entro an quakenet?
[03:07] <tivoklr> i installed server
[03:07] <tivoklr> then I installed x11 and gnome
[03:07] <tivoklr> and I somehow wound up with the edubuntu version
[03:07] <tivoklr> is there any real diff?
[03:07] <tivoklr> or should I just roll with it?
[03:07] <Thiago> how do i connect at quakenet?
[03:07] <AAA> tivoklr  cat /etc/issue
[03:08] <tivoklr> 1 sec
[03:08] <livingdaylig> got a new monitor. Screensaver doesn't kick in anymore. How do i manage powersettings ?
[03:08] <AAA> tivoklr  you just installed X and gnome and the version changed? no way
[03:08] <tivoklr> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[03:08] <AAA> tivoklr  there ya go
[03:08] <tivoklr> just telling you what I see on the desktop...
[03:08] <AAA> tivoklr  ah, ok roll with it ;)
[03:08] <tivoklr> will do thanks
[03:08] <Thiago> help me
[03:09] <AAA> Thiago  with what?
[03:09] <tivoklr> just making a firewall/iptables/openvpn box anyway
[03:09] <Thiago> i need connect at quakenet.org
[03:09] <tivoklr> so it doesn't matter what it looks like...
[03:09] <selfharm> what was the command to recongifure Xorg, and once I get in, what is the safest display driver to go with?
[03:09] <AAA> tivoklr  and you need X? to each his own...
[03:09] <AAA> selfharm  dpkg-reconfigure or vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <tivoklr> just learning about all this and it's just so much more comfortable to have a gui...
[03:09] <Thiago> aaa help me please
[03:10] <AAA> Thiago  again, WITH WHAT
[03:10] <django_> tivoklr, many feel the gui is the work of Satan
[03:10] <tivoklr> haha
[03:10] <tivoklr> that's awesome
[03:10] <Thiago> how do i do to connect at quakenet.org?
[03:10] <Willys_fuegu> AAA: sudo apt-get install (2.6.15-23) would be a correct comand?
[03:10] <tivoklr> i think that my wife's old mercedes may be the work of satan
[03:10] <tivoklr> thanks for the advice.
[03:10] <mrJungle> !nvidia
[03:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <tivoklr> ttyl
[03:10] <AAA> Thiago  links http://quakenet.org ?
[03:10] <django_> tivoklr, haha my old man's was
[03:11] <Thiago> i need to connect at quakenet server
[03:11] <bayzider> i  did the thing in the terminal can some one pm me so i can show them what the out put was so i can find out what sound card i have
[03:11] <tivoklr> yeah, this one is not bad, but it's just kinda used up. too old, too many miles
[03:11] <AAA> Thiago  I am sorry, I don't play games
[03:11] <tivoklr> good grocery getter, that's about it
[03:11] <AAA> (except with women) /didn't say that
[03:11] <cracko> how can i make all gtk apps not use anti-aliasing ?
[03:11] <Willys_fuegu> AAA: sudo apt-get install (2.6.15-23) would be a correct comand?
[03:11] <ttyfscker> democracyplayer works pretty good in ubuntu.
[03:11] <Thiago> i dont play to but here in Mirc i need to connect at quakenet server what is the comand?
[03:11] <roostishaw> anyone, what is netbios-ssn? and how do i turn it off?
[03:11] <cowmilk2> how can i get gtkpod to use xfmedia as the audio player?
[03:11] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  actually I think it is linux-source-<blah>
[03:12] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  use apt-cache search linux-source
[03:12] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  apt-cache search is your friend!
[03:12] <bayzider> i did lspci -vv in the terminal can some one pm me and help me with the output
[03:12] <django_> not with -vv i won't
[03:12] <AAA> bayzider  just look through all of it and find your soundcard
[03:13] <bayzider> its to danm confusing
[03:13] <AAA> bayzider  and django_ has a point, -vv is VERBOSE
[03:13] <Willys_fuegu> AAA: thankz dude..
[03:13] <AAA> bayzider  but -vv is good...
[03:13] <AAA> Willys_fuegu  np
[03:13] <Willys_fuegu> bye!!! chaus!!
[03:13] <bayzider> is a dram controler a sound card
[03:14] <AAA> bayzider  not that I know of, just run lspci (without the -vv)
[03:14] <Morydd> I'm having some trouble setting up my network. I seem to have some errors with NAT. Gateway machine can access internet, but machines behind it cannot.
[03:14] <AAA> Morydd  what is the gateway machine? linux?
[03:14] <bayzider> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:14] <bayzider> what of that should i google to get the driver
[03:15] <Storkme> where is the PATH variable defined?
[03:15] <AAA> bayzider  do :: lsmod |grep sound
[03:15] <bayzider> soundcore              10208  1 snd
[03:16] <AAA> bayzider  ok, can you open alsamixer in a terminal?
[03:16] <bayzider> whats that
[03:16] <AAA> alsamixer is the advanced linux architure mixer
[03:16] <Morydd> AAA: gateway machine is ubuntu
[03:16] <Samus_Aran> anyone know of any connect four games for Ubuntu that are difficult ?  kwin4 sucks
[03:16] <AAA> er sound architecture
[03:16] <bayzider> how do i open it
[03:17] <AAA> Morydd  ok, sounds like you need to enable forwarding on that
[03:17] <cdubya> Storkme, .bash_profile ?
[03:17] <acojlo> where to talk about watching tv on linux?
[03:17] <blinker> AAA: it lets me log in through VT - normal login flashes the VT when correct info is used, doesn't otherwise
[03:17] <AAA> Morydd  vim /etc/network/options and change forward to use, restart the interface
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> acojlo,  #mythtv perhaps.
[03:18] <Storkme> cdubya, how about for all users?
[03:18] <AAA> Morydd  er, change it to say yes for forward
[03:18] <basd> hello all
[03:18] <cdubya> Storkme, /etc/profile ?
[03:18] <bmrtin> i have ubuntu 6.06 and i cant play mp3 files with amarok or any other player for that matter
[03:18] <AAA> hi basd
[03:18] <GoLoGo> I need help with the Ubuntu Live CD Desktop Install - The screen has little distorted areas and when installing it jsut freezes. Thanks
[03:18] <basd> before you call me a n00b and start killin' me
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <basd> I have burned an ISO of latest ubuntu
[03:18] <mdmjb> Hey.  I'm using a Linksys wmp54g card -- it runs the radio okay, detects SSIDs, but it doesn't seem to be talking IPv4?  It doesn't do DHCP and can't route packets through the connection... any ideas? ^^
[03:18] <cdubya> Storkme, that help?
[03:19] <Storkme> cdubya, not sure, let me try
[03:19] <juanca7777_> hello everyone
[03:19] <AAA> mdmjb  apt-get install wavemon then run wavemon in a terminal. do you have a good connection?
[03:19] <basd> and I have Dell lInspiron 5100, my boot from CD hangs where it says "mounting root"
[03:19] <basd> I tried it a few times to no avail
[03:19] <AAA> basd  is your HDD good?
[03:19] <basd> yes
[03:20] <Morydd> AAA: I don't show a file /etc/network/options
[03:20] <basd> I can run the other OS fine
[03:20] <juanca7777_> i am having some problems with gnome-themes-manager after upgrading via apt-get upgrade
[03:20] <mdmjb> AAA: I think so, but I'm running on the LiveCD right now.
[03:20] <AAA> basd  and this is a live CD?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> basd: when you are at the grub menu did you check the cd for errors with the self test
[03:20] <juanca7777_> it gives me this error
[03:20] <basd> yes, AAA
[03:20] <basd> it's a live CD, and I have an option to install Ubuntu on HDD
[03:20] <juanca7777_> The default theme schemas could not be found on your system. This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly.
[03:20] <bayzider> can some one find me the drvier for a AC'97 Audio Controller  sound card
[03:20] <Zambezi> AAA, I runned the command, but when I press gft and press tab I get gftp and the commandline. :-(
[03:20] <prophet> i minimize all my apps and they disappear into someting not into the panel at the bottom?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ac97
[03:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ac97 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:21] <AAA> modprobe snd_ac97_codec
[03:21] <Storkme> cdubya, afraid not. i put $PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar in /etc/profile and opened a new terminal.. $PATH is still the same
[03:21] <AAA> basd modprobe snd_ac97_codec
[03:22] <neoth> if anyone has a minute im having some problems with getting X to start
[03:22] <basd> AAA, I wish I knew what that meant
[03:22] <AAA> cdubya  it lives in ~/.bash_profile
[03:22] <mdmjb> AAA: I think I've seen what you're talking about, but I don't know where to find it?  Is it on the LiveCD?
[03:22] <AAA> basd  modprobe inserts modules into your kernel, my guess is that the driver is already loaded and you just need to run alsamixer and turn the volume up (it is off by default)
[03:23] <BeepAU> how can I associate irc with chatzilla from firefox?
[03:23] <gekko`> neoth: if you don't tell us your problem we can't help you
[03:23] <SirGrok> Is there a way to choose and join an encrypted wireless network via the terminal?
[03:23] <AAA> Morydd  and this is in ubuntu?
[03:23] <Morydd> yes.
[03:24] <AAA> hrm. what lives in /etc/network then?
[03:24] <basd> AAA, the boot process actually hangs at that step, I do not have a command prompt to manipulate anything
[03:24] <neoth> well it cant find a pointer device on my laptop
[03:24] <cdubya> AAA, yeah, for an individual user.....
[03:24] <acojlo> My splash during boot is problematic: it start's good, but just before 'starting gdm' it shows just text boot process and goes to gdm
[03:24] <basd> do you think updating my BiOS on my Dell would help?
[03:24] <AAA> basd  you can <alt>F4
[03:24] <cdubya> AAA, he was wanting all users
[03:24] <basd> that's what I'm thinking next
[03:25] <blinker> AAA: I went back and tried to log in again. it lets me log in through VT - normal login flashes the VT when correct info is used, doesn't otherwise
[03:25] <Morydd> AAA: if-down.d if-up.d if-post-down.d if-pre-up.d interfaces
[03:25] <mdmjb> Even though I can't seem to talk to my router, I still can see the packet transmit/receive numbers going up with ifconfig
[03:26] <AAA> Morydd  that is odd, you can always echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:26] <selfharm> "you have mail" what do i do?
[03:26] <AAA> selfharm  that is prolly just local delivery, _I_ would just run mutt in a term and read them
[03:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:27] <AAA> mdmjb  hrm.
[03:27] <acojlo> how to delete "sda1" and "sda3" icons from my desktop? I want them off, but I want usb and others to show on desktop when I mount them
[03:27] <neoth> gekko: i have both a regular mouse and the synaptic device in my xorg.conf but x refuses to start because it cant find either one
[03:27] <juniorDIKDKDKCDL> =
[03:27] <juniorDIKDKDKCDL> =
[03:28] <EnsignRedshirt> dma isn't enabled by default for my CD drive when I boot.  Where do I put the command to do this at boot?  (Or is there a GUI configuration app somewhere?)  I'm using breezy.
[03:28] <AAA> EnsignRedshirt  /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:28] <gekko`> neoth: So your mouse doesn't work?
[03:29] <cdubya> !dma
[03:29] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[03:29] <cdubya> EnsignRedshirt,  ^^^^^
[03:29] <neoth> gekko: no X refuses to start
[03:29] <nesl247> Anyone know why the livecd freezes up all the time. Or when I do an install if it doesn't freeze I can never finish it. The farthest I've gotten was checking files.
[03:30] <gekko`> neoth: can you show me the error log?
[03:30] <gekko`> !pastebin
[03:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:30] <Morydd> AAA: "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" returns "permission denied"
[03:30] <neoth> gekko: two seconds... it gotta get it onto another machine
[03:30] <sproingie> Morydd: sudo is only working for the left side of the >
[03:31] <gekko`> neoth: X errors  are stored in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:31] <AAA> Morydd  sudo
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: does the self test finish?  here are some command line changes you can try (F6at grub)  Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[03:31] <EnsignRedshirt> AAA, cdubya: Thanks.
[03:31] <AAA> EnsignRedshirt  hdparm is your friend
[03:31] <cdubya> np
[03:31] <thejusticecow> !vmware
[03:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[03:31] <Morydd> sproingie: any way to work around this?
[03:32] <ChrisC_> Does anyone here know how to get "bonus" data material (e.g. an mpeg file) off of an enhanced audio CD?  I did it once before, but I can't remember how.
[03:32] <EnsignRedshirt> AAA: Yup, I've been manually running hdparm each time I boot up, which is kind of silly.
[03:32] <nesl247> Jack_Sparrow: It gets all the way to the desktop (oh and to say the livecd is the slowest thing I've ever seen). It freezes usually after trying to get to the menu or start the installer
[03:32] <longwave> Morydd: sudo -i to get a root shell, then do the echo command, then ctrl-d to log out of root
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: did the self test finish without errors?
[03:32] <Morydd> longwave: thank you.
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: everything on the cd is compressed and eats processor speed
[03:32] <CVirus> whats the difference between kernel 386 and 686 ?
[03:33] <AAA> Morydd  sudo before the command I gave you should work, you will have to add that to your startup scripts or put it in your /etc/network/interfaces as a PREUP command
[03:33] <nesl247> Jack_Sparrow: You want to clue me in on what you are talking about. First Ubuntu use. I'm used to Gentoo (And no I'm not new to linux)
[03:33] <XXS> where shall i get unrar from if my packetmanager (synaptic - ubuntu 6.06) doesn't show it ?
[03:33] <mdmjb> CVirus: The instruction set that's used in the binary.
[03:33] <sproingie> Morydd: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[03:33] <neoth> gekko: thanks brb with the logs
[03:33] <lumgwada> can any kind souls help me with a Evolution Calendar / webcal task sync issue? I'm not getting tasks ical paste >> (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19652).
[03:33] <nesl247> Jack_Sparrow: And if the livecd eats soo much processor resources a p4 3.2ghz isn't suitable, that's pathetic. I've seen other livecd's load faster.
[03:33] <longwave> AAA, Morydd: you can enable ip_forward on boot with /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:34] <tawy> is there a way to rebuild ubuntu back to the point of when it was originally installed without having to use a disk, or network boot up? id like to make this current install clean like it was fresh installed. is it possible?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: when you boot the live cd you have an otpion to test the cd for errors.. a self test.. watch it for any errors
[03:34] <AAA> longwave  good info
[03:34] <cdubya> XXS, you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[03:34] <CVirus> mdmjb: which of them is for x processors and which for them is for foo ones ?
[03:34] <nesl247> Jack_Sparrow: CD always gives mismatches. And yes I've done an md5sum on the iso
[03:34] <XXS> cdubya i think so, i enabled EVERY packetsource i could enable in the packetmanager
[03:34] <cdubya> !repos
[03:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:34] <sproingie> tawy: not trivially.  debootstrap can create a fresh system, you'd still have to blow away the old one
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: then burn a new one SLOWER...
[03:34] <nesl247> I've never had it once get it to not give mismatches on the .deb files.
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> and retest it
[03:35] <Morydd> AAA sproingie longwave: thank you all. Problem seems to be sorted.
[03:35] <iamjwc> does anyone have any ids on how to dual boot ubuntu and windows xp, from separate harddrives?
[03:35] <nesl247> Jack_Sparrow: I think at about the lowest speed setting it should work properly..
[03:35] <tawy> yeah i dont mind blowing the current away, but this machine's cd drive and floppy  are shot.
[03:35] <iamjwc> ideas*
[03:35] <mdmjb> CVirus: Um... 686 works with Pentium...IIIs?  386 works with nearly all x86 processors that can run Linux.
[03:35] <longwave> 686 is for pentium pro and upwards
[03:36] <cdubya> !multiverse
[03:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:36] <mdmjb> longwave: Thanks >_<
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: if the md5 of the iso is fine and the cd has errors the problem is obvious
[03:36] <sproingie> tawy: ouch.  debian can install from another partition, don't know how to expose that in ubuntu's installer tho
[03:36] <CVirus> longwave: what would I use for an Intel Core Duo ?
[03:36] <cdubya> XXS, you might check to make sure you do....I checked and it came up in the list I have
[03:36] <longwave> CVirus: 686
[03:36] <nesl247> Jack_Sparrow: But why would this cause the desktop to freeze up.. Obviously if it's able to load the desktop it should be fine..
[03:36] <sleekbiotch> I love Reidon!
[03:36] <sleekbiotch> Anally!
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> nesl247: no
[03:36] <ajt> I'm trying to get my wireless networking card working WPA and I get the following error ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported  I'm running the command  sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w  which I got from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[03:37] <sproingie> tawy: at any rate, you'd still have to boot off some media to run the installer that reset your old install ...
[03:37] <ajt> Anyoene know how to fix it/
[03:37] <sproingie> tawy: give debootstrap a try then
[03:37] <iamjwc> does anyone have any ideas on how to dual boot ubuntu and windows xp, from separate harddrives?
[03:37] <AAA> ajt  what is the -w supposed to be? I don't use WPA
[03:37] <ajt> AAA: good question let me look
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc: grub just needs to point to the second drive..
[03:38] <tawy> ok thanks.
[03:38] <ajt> AAA:   -w = wait for interface to be added, if needed
[03:38] <iamjwc> Jack_sparrow: whats grub? im a total n00b
[03:38] <ajt> AAA: FYI I'm configuring it via commandline
[03:38] <AAA> ajt  ah, I don't know, can you get a link? is your device up? ifconfig <dev> up
[03:38] <cdubya> XXS, Open Synaptic, then Settings > Repositories, then click on the Dapper 6.06 LTS (Binary) and click edit to make sure you've got all of them checked.....
[03:38] <AAA> ajt the only way...
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc: I did it once.. and I dont think I had to do anything
[03:38] <longwave> ajt does your card work without WPA?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> grub is the bootloader
[03:39] <nesl247> ajt: Grub is the GRand Unified Boot Loader.
[03:39] <XXS> yes cdubya i'm currently reloading.. i think that was the point. *feeling too dumb*
[03:39] <AAA> ajt  my first guess is your device is not up
[03:39] <ajt> longwave: maybe that's a good idea
[03:39] <scrappy_> iamjwc: i think ubuntu would likely setup grub correctly for you by default after install if not its very easy
[03:39] <dennis_> hello
[03:39] <neoth> gekko: please check http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/x.log
[03:39] <longwave> ajt: yeah, will be easier to debug WPA if you can get it working without beforehand
[03:39] <AAA> hi dennis_
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc:  I agree with scrappy_
[03:40] <AAA> ajt  yeah, you _must_ have a linksys or a default in your 'hood ;>
[03:40] <ajt> AAA: I ran ifconfig ath0 up and reran that command it still didn't owrk peroply
[03:40] <cdubya> XXS, heh, hey, no problem.....
[03:40] <dennis_> i am new to this and trying to get my wine updated and i dont get it
[03:40] <tivoklr> question for ya AAA when you're free
[03:40] <ajt> AAA: I stayed away form the linksys because I've heard bad things about it
[03:40] <iamjwc> scrappy: so i need to install ubuntu first, and then linux?
[03:40] <cdubya> XXS, no reason to
[03:40] <tivoklr> mercedes is happier
[03:40] <AAA> ajt  what about iwconfig? did you set the essid and stuff?
[03:40] <tivoklr> switched some vacuum lines around...
[03:40] <ajt> AAA: yeah
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc: Ubuntu is linux
[03:40] <longwave> ajt: "Operation not supported" suggests a driver or interface is not properly loaded for wpa_supplicant to talk to
[03:40] <AAA> ajt  linksys is just a default essid you see EVERYWHERE
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc: one and the same
[03:40] <cius> anyone happen to know what the int or hex value of an EOF is?
[03:40] <XXS> cdubya well thank you very much :D and i mean ... i've seen much more unfriendly helpchannels... i'm not used to such friendly helpers ;D
[03:41] <iamjwc> crap....i meant to say windows
[03:41] <iamjwc> not linux
[03:41] <ajt> longwave: let me try loadingt the proper kernel module
[03:41] <scrappy_> iamjwc: as long as xp is installed first and ubuntu last you should be ok
[03:41] <dennis_> can anyone help
[03:41] <tivoklr> ha
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc: Windows first
[03:41] <sproingie> the hell.  firefox seems incapable of downloading anything from sourceforge now
[03:41] <tivoklr> i can't...
[03:41] <tawy> what is the file you edit for sudo apt-get update.. to change repositires and such? ? .
[03:41] <ajt> longwave: that didn't seem to help
[03:41] <AAA> ajt  I suggest tail -f /var/log/syslog as you do that
[03:41] <micahcowan> cius, you should not need to know, it's not entirely portable. But, on most systems, it's -1 as an int
[03:41] <dibblego> if I wish to use XMMS and Skype at the same time, do I need a "sound mixer"? if so, what is the name of the package that is generally used?
[03:41] <longwave> ajt: is there anything about the wifi card in dmesg output?
[03:41] <AAA> tawy  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:41] <tivoklr> networking question for ya
[03:41] <iamjwc> alright
[03:41] <iamjwc> well
[03:41] <iamjwc> here goes
[03:41] <micahcowan> cius, why do you wish to know? You can't "write" it into a file, if that's what you're attempting.
[03:41] <tivoklr> i have multiple public ip addresses
[03:41] <ajt> AAA: nothing
[03:41] <gekko`> neoth: also upload the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:41] <iamjwc> its formattin time
[03:42] <ajt> longwave: let me look
[03:42] <neoth> gekko: one moment
[03:42] <AAA> ajt are you using the madwifi drivers?
[03:42] <tivoklr> and I would like to have 2 of them point to my ubuntu box that is acting as a firewall
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > iamjwc
[03:42] <iamjwc> i dont know what !grub means
[03:42] <XXS> cdubya everything works fine now... thanks a lot again, you saved my evening =)
[03:42] <tivoklr> i need to nat requests that head to one ip to various boxes on the network
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> iamjwc: that is why I had the bot explain and give a link
[03:42] <ajt> longwave: http://paste.seagullproject.org/51
[03:42] <ajt> AAA: yes
[03:43] <cdubya> XXS, understood. Glad you're having a good experience. :)
[03:43] <tivoklr> and the other ip will only have ports 80 and 443 go to one box on the network
[03:43] <sproingie> dibblego: esd is the sound mixer, and it should work out of the box.  insofar as anything alsa-related actually can work out of the box
[03:43] <ajt> AAA: at least that's the driver I used on this machine
[03:43] <cius> micahcowan, no, I'm working on a program for a class, simulating a FAT fs in memory, prof wants us to tag an EOF on the end of files in our simulated fs.  I thought there was an ASCII val for it...
[03:43] <ChrisC_> Does anyone here know how to get "bonus" data material (e.g. an mpeg file) off of an enhanced audio CD?  I did it once before, but I can't remember how.
[03:43] <iamjwc> grub or gnu grub?
[03:43] <longwave> tivoklr: you should be able to set up one IP on eth0, the other on an eth0:0 alias, then do all your NAT with iptables
[03:43] <tivoklr> okey dokey
[03:43] <dibblego> sproingie, well xmms refuses to use the sound card if skype is running
[03:43] <AAA> ajt and you have the wpa_supplicant stuff installed?
[03:43] <selfharm> when i try to start GDM, i get  "only root wants to run gdm (proces 5137) Glib-critical **: g_Hash_table_lookup: assertion "hash_table != null" failed
[03:43] <ajt> AAA, longwave: maybe I should start from the beginning w/o WPA and see if I can get her running
[03:43] <cdubya> XXS, kewl. Glad it worked.
[03:43] <ajt> AAA: yeah I installed it via apt-get
[03:43] <neoth> gekko: http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/xorg.conf
[03:43] <AAA> ajt it almost sounds like you have the wrong drivers loaded
[03:43] <tivoklr> should i then have 2 nics, one for the external network connection and one for the internal?
[03:43] <ajt> AAA: I'll start from the beginning
[03:44] <sproingie> dibblego: skype may not be using the mixer then.  not sure.
[03:44] <ajt> tivoklr: why not :) That's what I'm setting up now
[03:44] <AAA> ajt  yeah, I don't use WPA, but I use wifi a lot
[03:44] <longwave> ajt: i don't know much about the atheros drivers, but yeah probably best to disable WPA for now
[03:44] <tawy> ah ok. thanks aaa. i ask because im getting many messages like no such file or directory, some index files failed to download or old ones used instead.
[03:44] <ajt> AAA, longwave: thanks...I'm going to start from the beginning w/o wpa and then go from there
[03:44] <scrappy_> iamjwc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo will explain alot of it
[03:44] <dibblego> sproingie, when you say "using the mixer", is the mixer some kind of in-between software from the application to the sound card?
[03:44] <tivoklr> ok, i'll scrounge up another nic and go from there. thanks.
[03:44] <micahcowan> cius: no ASCII val... on DOS ctrl-Z has been used for this, but it's not a true EOF (there's no such character: that's the /point/ of EOF). This is way offtopic for this channel, though, so it's probably not fruitful to continue discussing it here.
[03:44] <gekko`> neoth: are you using a touchpad AND a mouse?
[03:44] <sproingie> sound in linux is a mess.  realtek ac97, the single most common sound device on PC's, can't convince alsa to output to headphones and spdif coax at the same time
[03:45] <AAA> ajt  good idea, you should be able to ifconfig ath0 up && iwconfig ath0 essid foo and then use wavemon to see your connection
[03:45] <thejusticecow> when i open gaim it signs me on the closes straight away, anyone know why?
[03:45] <neoth> gekko: no just a touchpad
[03:45] <ajt> AAA: thanks fotr the tip
[03:45] <XXS> byebye
[03:45] <cius> micahcowan, yea, I realize that, I just thought somebody might know.  You've helped though.  :-)  thanks
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> realtek is the soundcard equivalent of a Winmodem..
[03:45] <sproingie> dibblego: yep.  ubuntu uses esd, enlightened sound daemon.  everything needs to go through esd if it wants to use the mixer properly
[03:45] <Schumi> does ubuntu use xfree86 or x.org? x.org right?
[03:45] <dibblego> thejusticecow, it is probably seg faulting - open it from the command line
[03:45] <longwave> sproingie: i remember similar limitations in some windows audio drivers that have spdif out
[03:45] <AAA> ajt and when you get the hang of it you should really check out aircrack-ng ;>
[03:46] <ajt> AAA: what's aircrack-ng?
[03:46] <AAA> Schumi  Xorg
[03:46] <thejusticecow> dibblego: that is where i opened it from
[03:46] <dibblego> sproingie, does that mean `ps -ef | grep esd` should give me something? it doesn't
[03:46] <sproingie> longwave: certainly isn't the case for realtek on windows.  being that it's THE most common sound chip...  bah
[03:46] <ajt> AAA: I'll google it
[03:46] <AAA> ajt wireless security tool ;)
[03:46] <Frankenstein_AFK> hi, what compiler would i need when getting this error: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[03:46] <AAA> Frankenstein_AFK  you need gcc
[03:46] <sproingie> dibblego: try ps aux. used to solaris, are we?
[03:46] <Frankenstein_AFK> AAA, i already used apt to install that
[03:47] <longwave> Frankenstein_AFK: install "build-essential", that will give you gcc and the extra tools you need
[03:47] <Frankenstein_AFK> thanks longwave !
[03:47] <AAA> !build-essential
[03:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:47] <dibblego> sproingie, I am actually; still not daemon matching grep esd
[03:48] <Schumi> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <dibblego> sproingie, I plugged a USB headset in yesterday and now if I try to start the daemon it seems to be looking for it
[03:48] <AAA> dibblego  so stop the daemon?
[03:48] <dibblego> sproingie, http://rafb.net/paste/results/fPgCSJ35.html
[03:49] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me removing a packages I installed with dpkg? I said the packages was removed properly, but there's still files left.
[03:49] <mistform> khisanth?
[03:49] <gekko`> neoth: I commented the not needed part in your xorg.conf
[03:49] <dibblego> AAA, it won't start is the point
[03:49] <Schumi> on a non linux note I just tried playing a new purchased DVD in windows media player and it wont let me because of DRM.
[03:49] <AAA> Zambezi  --purge didn't remove it?
[03:49] <gekko`> neoth: here it is: # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[03:49] <Schumi> I am overly peeved
[03:49] <gekko`> #
[03:49] <gekko`> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[03:49] <gekko`> # values from the debconf database.
[03:49] <gekko`> #
[03:49] <gekko`> # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
[03:49] <gekko`> # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[03:49] <gekko`> #
[03:49] <gekko`> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[03:49] <sproingie> dibblego: i'm pretty stumped actually
[03:49] <AAA> dibblego  because the device is not plugged in?
[03:49] <gekko`> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[03:49] <gekko`> # package.
[03:49] <gekko`> #
[03:49] <AAA> gekko`  stop!
[03:49] <gekko`> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[03:49] <sproingie> gekko`: golly thanks for not using pastebin
[03:49] <dibblego> AAA, the headset is not plugged in, correct
[03:49] <gekko`> # again, run the following commands:
[03:49] <gekko`> #
[03:49] <Plouj> what's the gnome alternative for k3b?
[03:49] <gekko`> #   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[03:49] <gekko`> #   sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[03:50] <Schumi> please dont tell me you pasted taht whole thing
[03:50] <gekko`> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:50] <farous> !pastebin > gekko`
[03:50] <AAA> dibblego  if you plug it in does the daemon start?
[03:50] <gekko`> Section "Files"
[03:50] <ChrisC_> after this is done someone explain pastebin to him
[03:50] <gekko`> 	FontPath	"unix/:7100"			# local font server
[03:50] <dibblego> AAA, it's at home :)
[03:50] <gekko`> 	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
[03:50] <sproingie> after he's kicked
[03:50] <gekko`> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
[03:50] <sproingie> buh bye
[03:50] <neoth> lol there goes my config file
[03:50] <neoth> lol
[03:50] <dibblego> AAA, the headset is 20km away at the moment unfortunately
[03:50] <AAA> dibblego  ah, you can stop it from loading at boot with update-rc.d -f <name> remove
[03:50] <|thun-afk> this is the bussiest chan ive ever been in.
[03:50] <AAA> dibblego  so just stop the service
[03:50] <Zambezi> AAA No. Still get it when I press tab, so I can't install the new packages. And I need it.
[03:50] <dibblego> AAA, do you mean stop esd from starting? I don't necessarily want that
[03:51] <ChrisC_> gekko: learn about pastebin
[03:51] <ChrisC_> gekko: learn about pastebin
[03:51] <ChrisC_> gekko: learn about pastebin
[03:51] <AAA> |thun-afk  /join #debian =D
[03:51] <dibblego> AAA, really I want it to know that there is no headset now and to stop looking for it
[03:51] <gekko`> dude, i know but I accidently pasted this here
[03:51] <aStRaLgOd> Is it me, or the depository is very slow?
[03:51] <Zambezi> gekko`, pastebin.ca
[03:51] <gekko`> ...
[03:51] <sproingie> aStRaLgOd: us repos?  probably, they're extremely wonky.  i use the uk repos now
[03:52] <lumgwada> does anyone here sync ubuntu's evolution calendar with trac?
[03:52] <AAA> dibblego  oh, you sound daemon wont start with out the device, I see. is there something in /etc/esd/ you can change to remove the init of the device?
[03:52] <dibblego> AAA, I have a feeling it is because in the Sound Preferences dialog I set the headset to "default source card" yesterday, and the dialog didn't always seem to update properly, so even though I set it again, it's not updating
[03:52] <ChrisC_> sorry I have to repost this, but I'm really striking out via Google and ubuntuforums search ...
[03:52] <ChrisC_> Does anyone here know how to get "bonus" data material (e.g. an mpeg file) off of an enhanced audio CD?  I did it once before, but I can't remember how.
[03:52] <gekko`> neoth: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19653
[03:52] <aStRaLgOd> sproingie: Okay, what are they? Cuz packages.ubuntu.com is very slow atm
[03:52] <dibblego> AAA, I do not have /etc/esd
[03:52] <|thun-afk> this chan has 200 somn' more people
[03:52] <gekko`> neoth: use that xorg.conf
[03:53] <AAA> dibblego  yeah (I don't use esd) you should find something in /etc/ you can change that behaviour
[03:53] <dibblego> AAA, I found /etc/esound/
[03:53] <Plouj> humm, I'm not finding "gnomebaker" or "GnomeBaker" in apt cache, any suggestions?
[03:53] <AAA> dibblego  bingo
[03:53] <neoth> gekko: thanks i will try it real quick and see how it goes
[03:53] <damnation> hi all, i have a problem, i done a fresh install of dapper and cannot get my wifi to work. it's a WPC54G V3 (im using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported as a reference)
[03:53] <|thun-afk> plouj, un comment the universal repos
[03:53] <damnation> and i still can't get my wifi working.
[03:53] <theboywhogotlost> Hey, I'm attempting to install madwifi the build goes seemingly perfect but when I issue teh command modprobe ath_pci the card doesn't show up when I do a ifconfig
[03:53] <sproingie> aStRaLgOd: just switch "us" to "uk" in sources.list.  i don't use packages.ubuntu.com myself
[03:53] <cyanics> damnation, is the wpc54g a supported card?
[03:53] <dibblego> AAA, there is only one file (esd.conf) and here it is: http://rafb.net/paste/results/cGk6IT48.html doesn't look like I can change anything
[03:53] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  lsmod|grep ath
[03:53] <theboywhogotlost> why?
[03:54] <gekko`> neoth: but dont copy the line numbers
[03:54] <|thun-afk> damnation, i have a linksys wmp54G v4 with Rt2500 chhipset. I just have to config it and make it actve with system.admin/networking
[03:54] <damnation> cyanics: apparantly yes, with the standard, new kernel
[03:54] <aStRaLgOd> sproingie okay thanks
[03:54] <damnation> |thun-afk, i'm a bit new to linux, you'll have to forgive me =[
[03:54] <damnation> (built in driver works flawlessly with the 2.6.15 kernel, ndiswrapper not needed. Do not know if it will work for install.)
[03:54] <theboywhogotlost> AAA : ath_pci                96288  0
[03:54] <theboywhogotlost> ath_rate_sample        15360  1 ath_pci
[03:54] <theboywhogotlost> ath_hal               191568  2 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[03:54] <theboywhogotlost> wlan                  202588  2 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[03:54] <Plouj> damnation: who isn't, here?
[03:54] <damnation> im using V3
[03:55] <damnation> lol Plouj :)
[03:55] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  ifconfig ath0 up
[03:55] <userundefine> !pastebin > theboywhogotlost
[03:55] <sproingie> sound and wifi, not my favorite topics in linux-land
[03:55] <cyanics> damnation, the supported hardware site says that it is supported with the windows drivers.
[03:55] <greenwom> scrapper!!! where are you
[03:55] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  then iwconfig ath0 essid whateveryourssidis
[03:55] <Frankenstein_AFK> what are kernal headers? im trying to use this file to install my winmodem... : ERROR: No kernel headers found.
[03:55] <|thun-afk> just goto system,admin,networking and see if your card is there
[03:55] <damnation> yes cyanics
[03:55] <J2D2> where is a website i can get some extra reposotories like seveas and suchnot
[03:55] <AAA> Frankenstein_AFK  apt-cache search kernel-headers
[03:55] <damnation> but it says this next to the card
[03:55] <damnation> "(built in driver works flawlessly with the 2.6.15 kernel, ndiswrapper not needed. Do not know if it will work for install.)"
[03:55] <sproingie> Frankenstein_AFK: apt-get install linux-headers
[03:55] <Frankenstein_AFK> my card is there, but it cant find it
[03:55] <dibblego> Fracture, type uname -a and call your kernel version X then type apt-get install linux-headers-X
[03:55] <theboywhogotlost> AAA no such device
[03:56] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  ifconfig -a
[03:56] <sproingie> dibblego: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) works
[03:56] <damnation> do i _have_ to use WEP (or whatever) ubuntu has standard
[03:56] <damnation> ?
[03:56] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  do you have an atheros chipset?
[03:56] <sproingie> just plain linux-headers should track your version tho
[03:56] <dibblego> sproingie, good one :)
[03:56] <damnation> says my session ID is invalid
[03:56] <damnation> when i try to config the wifi settings
[03:56] <userundefine> damnation, you don't have to use encryption if you don't want to.
[03:57] <AAA> what did encryption ever do for DRM =p
[03:57] <|thun-afk> im off, good luck damnation
[03:57] <damnation> thanks |thun-afk :)
[03:57] <damnation> i just have this problem, i'm used to using WPA, and i'm not at all familiar with WEP or ubuntu
[03:57] <Frankenstein_AFK> it gave me a list and i cant find anything matching  2.6.15-26-386
[03:57] <AAA> |thun-afk  do you put pipes at the beginning of your passwords too ;>
[03:57] <damnation> and i'm not 100% my card will even work with ubuntu
[03:58] <damnation> cause i use iwconfig and it says i have a broadcome/ airforce1 chipset
[03:58] <damnation> yet it's a linksys wpc54g v3
[03:58] <Plouj> damnation: wap/wep isn't different to the end user except for security reasons
[03:58] <damnation> ok..
[03:58] <neoth> gekko: "undefined InputDevice "configured mouse" referenced by serverlayout "default layout""
[03:58] <dibblego> I wonder where esd is looking besides /etc/esound/esd.conf
[03:58] <AAA> damnation  sounds like you device is driven, do you have the wpa_supplicant stuff?
[03:58] <Taxman> the Ubuntu article will be on the Wikipedia main page starting 00:00 UTC on Saturday in case people wanted to know :)
[03:59] <damnation> AAA: driven?
[03:59] <AAA> damnation  you have a working driver for it
[03:59] <damnation> ok, so does it come with the standard install of ubuntu desktop/ dapper
[03:59] <damnation> ?
[03:59] <Plouj> damnation: try the ubuntu live cd
[03:59] <gekko`> neoth: ok, comment in the line 126
[04:00] <greenwom> I lost my wireless card //// I didn't do a kernel upgrade.  It looks like it still is working (sending packets) driver adm8211 is present (lshw)  My laptop can see the singnal in the same spot but the card stoped working (sencond time it happened, last time I reinstalled_)  what next
[04:00] <neoth> gekko: righto one sec
[04:00] <damnation> i used it, it didnt work, then i installed ubuntu and it still didn't work
[04:00] <MyApple876> #kernel2,4,0
[04:00] <AAA> damnation  your device seems to be working, does iwspy <dev> show you available access points?
[04:00] <thejusticecow> dibblego: you dont have any other ideas?
[04:00] <damnation> oic, i was about to ask if there was a scanning command
[04:00] <damnation> i gotta write that down.
[04:00] <dibblego> thejusticecow, /var/log ? not really; you could try #gaim
[04:01] <thejusticecow> dibblego: thanks
[04:01] <MyApple876> guys check out #kernel2,4,0
[04:01] <damnation> what's the <dev> mean, AAA ?
[04:01] <greenwom> any help??
[04:01] <AAA> er iwlist ath0 accesspoints
[04:01] <damnation> oic
[04:01] <longwave> someone kick MyApple876, that is a trick link to make users leave channels
[04:01] <AAA> damnation  device ath0 wlan0 eth0 etc...
[04:01] <damnation> so i could substitute ath0 with eth1 ?
[04:01] <theboywhogotlost> AAA http://paste.lisp.org/display/23626
[04:01] <Plouj> greenwom: so, what did you do to loose your wireless card?
[04:02] <damnation> ok, i'm slowly getting the hang of this =[
[04:02] <AAA> damnation  eth0 probably doesn't have wireless info
[04:02] <greenwom> Plouj: the only thing I think of is install samba
[04:02] <neoth> gekko: no go log @ http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/Xorg.0.log
[04:02] <greenwom> Plouj: that's the last thing I can think of
[04:02] <damnation> now, AAA, can you tell me if i NEED to use WEP to login via linux?
[04:02] <damnation> login to the router i mean
[04:02] <Plouj> greenwom: and it used to work perfectly, before?
[04:02] <damnation> or can i use unsecured?
[04:03] <greenwom> Plouj: yes
[04:03] <Phrozen_One> howdy all, anybody have experience with installing Ubuntu for a family member on a shared computer?
[04:03] <AAA> theboywhogotlost  eth1 is your wifi card?
[04:03] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do you make a file "Hidden"?
[04:03] <MyApple876> come on guys, check out #kernel2,4,0
[04:03] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: do you have a more specific question?
[04:03] <root> does ubuntu have different repositories like debian has sarge, sid etc?
[04:03] <userundefine> damnation, it's up to your router what you NEED to authenticate.  Linux doesn't determine what your router accepts
[04:03] <dibblego> in the System->Preferences->Sound Preferences dialog, there is an option for "Default sound card" - where exactly is that dialog writing its information?
[04:03] <longwave> MyApple876: please stop
[04:03] <damnation> userundefine: i know, but i couldnt seem to connect at all
[04:03] <AAA> damnation  WEP == wireless equivilency protocol it has NOTHING to do with linux (per say)
[04:03] <damnation> i know AAA
[04:03] <theboywhogotlost> eth1 works fine but I got a new card and I can
[04:04] <theboywhogotlost> get it to work
[04:04] <Phrozen_One> Plouj, does anybody have any feedback on what the casual user complains about when trying to use Ubuntu as a Windows replacement
[04:04] <greenwom> PLouj:  I was using it and installed samba then gone.  I had this happen before and I reinstalled
[04:04] <theboywhogotlost> can't***
[04:04] <sproingie> root: those aren't different repos, they're different versions.  ubuntu has a new one roughly every 6 months
[04:04] <damnation> but if i have no WEP on my router, can i just login on ubuntu by typing in session ID?
[04:04] <mistform> speaking of wireless, I can't get Network Manager to work
[04:04] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do you make a file "Hidden"?
[04:04] <userundefine> damnation, yes
[04:04] <mistform> i've uninstalled it an reinstalled it 3 times
[04:04] <AAA> Phrozen_One  that is a can o worms
[04:04] <damnation> thanks userundefine :)
[04:04] <damnation> ok, i think i've got all i need, for now.
[04:04] <damnation> i'm gonna go have a stab at it
[04:04] <Phrozen_One> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, put a "." in front of it
[04:04] <longwave> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: put a . at the beginning of the filename
[04:04] <Plouj> greenwom: I'm curious, the previous time you lost your wireless card, did it happen after installing samba as well, or something else?
[04:04] <damnation> i'll be back if i have any more problems
[04:05] <AAA> damnation  stab hard, stab often ;)
[04:05] <damnation> thanks for your help userundefine and AAA :)
[04:05] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: they complain it sucks compared to windows
[04:05] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> thanx
[04:05] <Phrozen_One> okay better yet, has anybody succesfully migrated a casual Windows user to Ubuntu
[04:05] <AAA> Plouj  but they are just lUSERS
[04:05] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: for example exotic software unsupported
[04:05] <gekko`> neoth: your touchpad isn't detected
[04:05] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: requires lots of ram
[04:05] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: dodgy music/video players
[04:05] <Phrozen_One> well what about with the support of the latest Wine?
[04:05] <dibblego> Phrozen_One, yes, my 5 year old much prefers Edubuntu
[04:05] <greenwom> Plouj: can't say I was putting the card in to replace a crappy prism card and had the same problem driver pleasent but no go (same card worked out of the box on other systems)
[04:05] <neoth> gekko: is there a way to remedy that?
[04:05] <longwave> Phrozen_One: yep, my girlfriend was a casual windows user, now she happily uses ubuntu with openoffice and so on instead
[04:05] <thejusticecow> how do i tell what dapper verison i have?
[04:05] <userundefine> Phrozen_One, I'll be putting my mother on linux soon.  Casual users are the easiest kind
[04:05] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: I installed Ubuntu on my bro's laptop
[04:06] <Phrozen_One> I have two potentials atm..... a business laptop user, and a family computer
[04:06] <AAA> Phrozen_One  if you really want windows emulation check out (non-free) crossover-office
[04:06] <Plouj> greenwom: well, I dunno how to help you, but you could search dmesg for errors
[04:06] <gekko`> neoth: what does 'ls /dev/ | grep psaux
[04:06] <AAA> thejusticecow  cat /etc/issue
[04:06] <gekko`> say
[04:06] <thejusticecow> AAA: thank you
[04:06] <greenwom> dmesg only reveals eth1 scanning
[04:06] <AAA> gekko`  what the hell is that command suppose to do?
[04:06] <AAA> haha
[04:06] <Phrozen_One> is Ubuntu still considered the easiest distro for the dumber Windows users
[04:06] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: if you don't want to take the heat, you better make sure you find out what exactly those users want to do with computers, and test it out ourself on Ubuntu
[04:06] <AAA> thejusticecow  np
[04:07] <theboywhogotlost> Can someone help me? my ath0 card is not being detected.
[04:07] <userundefine> Phrozen_One, yes
[04:07] <neoth> gekko not a thing
[04:07] <root> sproingie: and it uses apt tho right?  So as apps and security updates are added I can stay current?
[04:07] <Phrozen_One> anybody have complaints about OpenSuse?
[04:07] <AAA> neoth  because that command makes no sense
[04:07] <greenwom> I lost my wireless card //// I didn't do a kernel upgrade.  It looks like it still is working (sending packets) driver adm8211 is present (lshw)  My laptop can see the singnal in the same spot but the card stoped working (sencond time it happened, last time I reinstalled_)  what next
[04:07] <Plouj> Phrozen_One: ask in #opensuse!
[04:07] <AAA> Phrozen_One  other than it is corporate?
[04:07] <Plouj> greenwom: no need to repeat yourself
[04:07] <Phrozen_One> oi, I need sleep
[04:08] <AAA> suse == novell
[04:08] <greenwom> Plouj: I'm stuck and desperate man :)
[04:08] <gekko`> AAA: psaux supposed to be the touchpad device isn't it?
[04:08] <Plouj> greenwom: what kind of troubleshooting have you done so far?
[04:08] <AAA> gekko`  I read ps aux sorry
[04:09] <gekko`> AAA: no problem
[04:09] <gekko`> i know what ps aux is ;)
[04:09] <greenwom> I've lshw to see if the driver is there, ran dhclinet, reinstalled the adm8211 module.  Powered the computer down unpluged and restared (many times)  Ran a live CD with same problem
[04:09] <AAA> gekko`  hehe
[04:09] <theboywhogotlost> Can someone help me get my new Wireless card working?
[04:10] <AAA> gekko`  I would have suggested ls /dev/ps<tab><tab>
[04:10] <theboywhogotlost> I can't get it to show up
[04:10] <Plouj> greenwom: if the live CD gives you the same problem, try powering down your card+ computer for a minute to let it completely loose it's internal memory state, then try again
[04:10] <greenwom> did that over night
[04:10] <Plouj> greenwom: did the live cd work work good at first, before you installed samba?
[04:10] <Plouj> greenwom: then your card must be broken
[04:11] <Plouj> greenwom: if it's a laptop, try completely taking the card out
[04:11] <AAA> oh yeah, the hardware guys blame the software guys and the software guys blame the hardware guys...
[04:11] <greenwom> had the same fault and a reinstall worked, I'm trying to avoid that again (time)
[04:11] <AAA> greenwom  is it a pcmcia card? or minipci builtin?
[04:11] <Plouj> greenwom: answer my last question about the live cd
[04:12] <greenwom> PCI  card, running live doesn't have samba
[04:12] <AAA> if it is pcmcia cardctl is your friend
[04:12] <neoth> gekko: is there a way to get the mouse detected?
[04:12] <Plouj> greenwom: yeah, did the wireless card ever work with the live cd?
[04:12] <AAA> gdb
[04:13] <greenwom> Plouj: never had to use it before so it's not a great check
[04:13] <Plouj> :/
[04:13] <Plouj> it would have been a great check
[04:13] <dave_dan> I was hoping that someone could help me with my desktop background.  Whenever I restart it does not show up however when I go to system -> preferences ->desktop background it shows up.  Im also losing adesklets.  It starts when the system starts because I see it come up.  But then when I put in my password for firestarter it disappers and I have to run adesklets for the terminal again to get it started again.
[04:13] <gekko`> neoth: 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics' if it isn't already installed
[04:14] <Max007> Hi
[04:14] <neoth> gekko: couldnt find the package
[04:14] <Max007> How can i auto mount a fat32 partition with write permission for everyone ?
[04:14] <Plouj> greenwom: I'm out of ideas
[04:15] <greenwom> Plouj: thanks for trying.... I need to get it up.  I'm taking the laptop on a long trip and my wife needs the desktop up and running
[04:15] <Plouj> Max007: check mount map page for uid and guid
[04:15] <longwave> no, for write permission for everyone you want the umask option
[04:15] <longwave> well or you could put them all in a group i guess
[04:15] <gekko`> neoth: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[04:16] <AAA> Max007  edit your /etc/fstab to include the drive
[04:16] <Max007> AAA: yeah i know, but i dont know what to add to get write access
[04:16] <AAA> rw
[04:16] <thejusticecow> !gaim
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[04:17] <Khisanth> mistform: what?
[04:17] <AAA> Max007  the mount point also needs rw for the users
[04:17] <ajt> I isntalled Ubuntu without the X Server how would you go about installing it? Just select to isntall gnome + x server?
[04:17] <Plouj> Max007: yeah, or check mount map page how to set the umask
[04:17] <neoth> gekko: is there a way i can add that server to the sources list? im not sure how to do the process manually
[04:17] <AAA> Max007  how are you sharing it? locally, samba, nfs ?
[04:17] <Plouj> Max007: google for fstab howto
[04:17] <Max007> AAA: local
[04:18] <AAA> Max007  just make sure the /mnt/foo is rx by everyone
[04:18] <rwanderley> hi...  can anyone tell me the package that contains the development man pages?
[04:18] <AAA> Max007  and the subdirs are rw for what you need
[04:18] <longwave> AAA: that will only affect the root of the mount point though, won't it?
[04:18] <rwanderley> ive installed build-essentials, but cant find any man pages for the C funtions
[04:19] <longwave> AAA: isn't the umask option needed to change permissions on the subdirectories?
[04:19] <gekko`> !source-o-matic
[04:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:19] <hyphenated> rwanderley: they are in the manpages-dev package
[04:19] <gekko`> neoth: check that link
[04:19] <AAA> longwave  yes, but you don't want user rw to the root, just there dir's, so rx is all you need on the root
[04:19] <gekko`> you can generate your own sources.list there
[04:19] <rwanderley> hyphenated: thx
[04:19] <AAA> longwave  umask for file they create in the subdir
[04:19] <neoth> gekko: k i will, be back in a bit
[04:20] <Hairy> anyone got an idea how long a dosfsck would take on a 120gb partition?
[04:20] <longwave> but he wanted a fat32 partition with rw access for everyone, fat32 doesn't support users and unix permissions directly?
[04:20] <AAA> longwave  think about / you can't write to /foo but you can to /home/foo/foo
[04:21] <AAA> Hairy  depends on the drive and the cpu, I'd guess 30m
[04:21] <aStRaLgOd> Holy crap I just found my perfect Linux game!
[04:21] <aStRaLgOd> Everyone! Go install the PlanetPenguin racing game
[04:21] <AAA> aStRaLgOd  don't say rpg
[04:22] <aStRaLgOd> no dude Planet Penguin, from the Repo
[04:22] <aStRaLgOd> That game pwns! :D It's the old TuxRacer
[04:22] <AAA> the only game I play is "get me another beer from the fridge" heh
[04:22] <klees> is there a way to use  tar  to only add new/newer files to an archive???
[04:22] <rwanderley> AAA: love that game too!
[04:23] <AAA> klees  you need the a option I believe
[04:23] <aStRaLgOd> AAA: Yeah but see that program depends on the DamagedLiver_0.2_i386.deb package....
[04:23] <AAA> a == append
[04:23] <AAA> aStRaLgOd  I use the CVS ver of that
[04:23] <aStRaLgOd> ic
[04:23] <AAA> crush vital systems
[04:23] <aStRaLgOd> I'm sure you built it from the source HA
[04:23] <AAA> mosdef
[04:24] <AAA> d0h, there was a root user on IRC bad bad bad
[04:24] <aStRaLgOd> lol
[04:24] <rwanderley> klees: maybe you should check rsync first
[04:24] <AAA> mmm rsysnc is such a slick utility
[04:24] <mdmjb> Figure I'll try asking again.  Anyone have an idea about a Linksys WMP54G PCI card?  It can use the radio, finds the network, talks to the router, but doesn't do DHCP or any "real" traffic.
[04:24] <klees> rsync???  im just doing a backup of my system
[04:24] <klees> using tar
[04:24] <klees> i already have a backup.tgz file
[04:25] <klees> and wanted to only add new files
[04:25] <mdmjb> Maybe find?
[04:25] <rwanderley> klees: forget what i said...  its wrong.
[04:25] <klees> rwanderley: np =)
[04:26] <turing> klees, tar was made to do what you're trying to do.  read deeply into 'man tar' on the command line
[04:26] <cracko> anyone know how i can turn anti-aliasing of fonts off in all gtk apps?
[04:26] <klees> on it
[04:26] <rwanderley> I saw the -N option on the manpage...
[04:26] <AAA> klees  sounds like you may need mondo/mini
[04:26] <AAA> er mindi
[04:27] <mister_roboto> klees, doesn't "-u" arg do that?
[04:27] <klees> i have it but tar does what i need
[04:27] <klees> mister_roboto: it does seem -u is what i want
[04:27] <AAA> klees  then you need the a option to append files to your archive, check that man page
[04:27] <django_> domo arigato, mister_roboto
[04:27] <mister_roboto> django_, :)
[04:27] <mdmjb> mister_roboto: Doesn't seem like that works for 1/4" tapes though...
[04:27] <klees> =)
[04:28] <AAA> no one uses tapes anymore
[04:28] <mister_roboto> mdmjb, not sure what tar format is, the directory is not at the end and therefore doesn't work with serial media like a tape?
[04:28] <AAA> so much for tap archives ....
[04:28] <Plouj> AAA: what does everyone use then?
[04:28] <AAA> Plouj  dvd's
[04:28] <Plouj> AAA: my work uses tapes, they store more than a single dvd
[04:29] <mister_roboto> or removable hard drives :)
[04:29] <Plouj> each tape does
[04:29] <AAA> Plouj  so you work for DEC
[04:29] <Plouj> wtf is DEC?
[04:29] <ajt> DEC
[04:29] <aStRaLgOd> haha guys, it's not ubuntu related, but watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9yI3F9a_PA Final fantasy IRL :)
[04:29] <mdmjb> Even the IRS moved away from tapes. ;)
[04:29] <ajt> Digital Equipment Corporation
[04:29] <AAA> old computer company NM
[04:29] <AAA> hehe yeah
[04:31] <neoth> gekko: i have the .deb file bc i couldnt get the package to show up in apt-get even with new sources. how do i use the .deb file?
[04:31] <klees> tar: Cannot update compressed archives
[04:31] <klees> bummer =(
[04:32] <AAA> klees  maybe you need the j or z option j==bzip z=gzip
[04:32] <AAA> neoth  bc should be in the repos
[04:32] <damnation> guess who's back ;)
[04:32] <damnation> hehe..
[04:32] <klees> AAA: what's tgz??
[04:32] <AAA> klees  gzip
[04:32] <mdmjb> tar + gzip
[04:32] <neoth> AAA then i dont know whats going on
[04:32] <AAA> klees  file file.tgz will tell you for sure
[04:33] <gekko`> neoth: go to the path you downloaded it and type 'dpkg -i <package.deb>'
[04:33] <damnation> i have a problem, AAA: i use iwspy and it says that my eth1 (and every other device) cannot collect wireless statistics
[04:33] <klees> AAA: im running this command which produced that error:
[04:33] <gekko`> sudo of course
[04:33] <AAA> klees  you may have to gunzip your archive before you append to it
[04:33] <klees>  time tar vpzuf backup.tgz --exclude-from=excludes /
[04:33] <damnation> and i still can't seem to connect my wifi up, however..
[04:33] <klees> ic
[04:33] <damnation> i now have my exact chipset name
[04:33] <AAA> damnation  then it is not a wifi device
[04:33] <aujordanh> how do i get my wireless to autoconnect on startup?
[04:33] <damnation> lol
[04:33] <damnation> AAA: it says it is my correct wifi device
[04:34] <damnation> it's a linksys wpc54g
[04:34] <AAA> aujordanh  edit your /etc/network/interfaces file add wireless-essid wireless-key to the script and add it to the auto section (at the top of the file)
[04:34] <aujordanh> AAA, thanks
[04:34] <damnation> but i use iwconfig (or lspci) and i get 'eth1 is a broadcom BCM4318
[04:34] <AAA> ewwww broadcom I'm sorry
[04:34] <damnation> with 'air force 1 54g
[04:34] <ChrisC_> Just to follow up on my enhanced CD question that nobody answered :) , I needed to navigate to the CD in Nautilus in a certain way: using the twisty dropdown arrows.  Clicking straight on the "CD-ROM Disc" shortcut on the left side of Nautilus would not work.
[04:35] <damnation> oh, am i out of luck then,AAA ?
[04:35] <kinection> hello, i'm trying to convert one of my friends to ubuntu. but there is one caveat, she can't get online. I gave her a CD and she installed everything her self and everything is working fine, but i can't get an ip address. I think she did something to kill this though, since when i look at resolv.conf there are two ips there that look right, and the autoupdate manager shows that there are 130 updates! Which means she's connected b
[04:35] <AAA> damnation  if the device is up just iwconfig eth1 essid foo
[04:35] <gekko`> aStRaLgOd: that's just great :D
[04:35] <BrianG> my USB stick is reporting the wrong capacity, is there a way to format it in ubuntu?
[04:35] <pinky> Anyone have any luck installing the Debian package for Crossover Office on Dapper?
[04:35] <AAA> damnation  not necissarly broadcom just has a bad rep in linux
[04:35] <aujordanh> AAA directly under "auto lo"?
[04:35] <aStRaLgOd> gekko`, : Fuck yeah
[04:35] <damnation> "iwconfig eth1 essid foo"
[04:35] <damnation> is what i type? :P
[04:35] <AAA> BrianG  you can use cfdisk
[04:35] <Plouj> BrianG: ya, mkfat /dev/<usb-device> or whatever
[04:36] <Plouj> BrianG: yeah, you need to use cfdisk first, to create the right sized device
[04:36] <cyanics> damnation, are you using the ndwrapper?
[04:36] <AAA> aujordanh  yeah, just add you device to that ath0 wlan0 eth1 whatever and then add your network settings including wireless-essid
[04:36] <cyanics> damnation, sorry. ndiswrapper.
[04:36] <AAA> damnation  well, what is your essid of the AP?
[04:36] <cyanics> (been away for a bit.
[04:37] <BrianG> how do i find out what the pasth to it is?
[04:37] <kinection> so if windows can get a dhcp address but linux can't. dhclient eth0 doesn't get anything, what can i do? she's using a realtek gig eth on a benq laptop.
[04:37] <damnation> it says i have a broadcom 4318 chipset (i think it's a chipset?) in my wifi card
[04:37] <neoth> gekko: dependency problems... grrr.. xserver-xorg-core is not installed... wtf should i try to apt-get it?
[04:37] <AAA> damnation  ifconfig eth1 up ; iwconfig eth1 essid ssidofyourAP
[04:37] <BrianG> path
[04:37] <AAA> BrianG  echo $PATH
[04:37] <LogicalDash> hey guys, somehow the entry for WinXP has been deleted from GRUB's menu.lst. What sort of entry do I need to make to restore it?
[04:37] <AAA> BrianG  echo $<tab><tab> shows you all your variables
[04:37] <damnation> so type that?
[04:38] <damnation> ok i've copied them
[04:38] <damnation> and will give them a go
[04:38] <AAA> damnation  type the proper name of your AP (prolly default or linksys =p)
[04:38] <gekko`> neoth: yeah, get it
[04:38] <damnation> AAA: i've renamed it 'redemption'
[04:38] <AAA> damnation  good for you
[04:38] <damnation> but can't directly connect to it
[04:38] <AAA> iwconfig eth1 essid redemption
[04:38] <cyanics> damnation, is it wep or wap encrypted?
[04:38] <damnation> um, by default does ubuntu discover the encryption used on WEP?
[04:38] <AAA> damnation  do you have WEP/WPA turned on your AP>?
[04:38] <damnation> WEP 64bit
[04:39] <AAA> damnation  hahah we all wish....
[04:39] <damnation> i used WEP (ascii) with my password
[04:39] <AAA> damnation  that kinda defeats the purpose =p
[04:39] <damnation> what does? :<
[04:39] <neoth> gekko: "...is not available but refered to by another package... missing, has been obsoleteed, or only available from another source..."
[04:39] <aujordanh> AAA, can you glance at my file to see whats wrong?
[04:39] <cyanics> damnation, i would recommend trying to install a different wifi network manager, like wifi-radar
[04:39] <AAA> damnation  then iwconfig eth1 essid redemption enc myasciipasswd
[04:39] <BrianG> i can't use /media/usbdisk/ ?
[04:39] <aujordanh> http://rafb.net/paste/results/woTpsY73.html
[04:39] <CokeNCode> jeeze, that latest update was HUGE
[04:39] <CokeNCode> what was in it ?
[04:39] <damnation> should i just forget this and try .. this? http://www.kosmaczewski.net/blogs/tech/archives/2006/02/how_to_install_1.php
[04:39] <AAA> aujordanh  sure, paste in in paste-bin and then paste the link htere
[04:39] <gekko`> neoth: can you tell me what 'ls /dev/input' output?
[04:40] <neoth> event0 event1
[04:40] <aujordanh> AAA, http://rafb.net/paste/results/woTpsY73.html
[04:40] <Bonds> hey everyojne
[04:40] <Bonds> everyone*
[04:40] <Bonds> just installed ubuntu
[04:40] <Bonds> it's awesoem!
[04:40] <Bonds> awesome*
[04:40] <CokeNCode> Bonds, it sure it
[04:40] <aujordanh> Bonds, congratulations
[04:41] <AAA> aujordanh  oh jeez
[04:41] <CokeNCode> u'r a bit late to the party ... but better late than never
[04:41] <Bonds> haha thanks
[04:41] <Bonds> I was just completely fed up with windows
[04:41] <AAA> aujordanh  it is quite wrong, hold
[04:41] <aujordanh> AAA, haha
[04:41] <Bonds> and freeBSD decided to screw up my windows partition
[04:41] <galamud> every time i start my laptop, i have to go to network-admin to configure wireless...under breezy it used to work automatically.  any ideas to fix it?
[04:41] <CokeNCode> ok, update requires a restart
[04:41] <CokeNCode> bbl
[04:41] <rixxon> any nonugly msn client with webcam and proper file transfers in repos?
[04:41] <Bonds> yeah i gotta update also thanks for being friendly
[04:42] <gekko`> neoth: and this: 'cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep INPUT_EVDEV'
[04:42] <AAA> aujordanh  take out lines 9 10 11 and add eth1 to line 1
[04:42] <damnation> AAA: what should i do now? :< hehe, sorry to bother you, i can see your busy
[04:42] <neoth> config_input_evdev=m
[04:42] <damnation> just wanna rectify this so i don't keep booting between ubuntu/  linux to fix my un-ability to get on the net
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[04:43] <aujordanh> AAA, the wireless is under eth2
[04:43] <AAA> damnation  do this. ifconfig eth1 up && iwconfig eth1 essid redemption && iwconfig eth1
[04:43] <gekko`> neoth: and this: 'cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep INPUT_MOUSE'
[04:43] <danf_1979> first version, so I need some testers.... :(
[04:43] <damnation> ok
[04:43] <damnation> shall i do it now and come back when i've done it?
[04:43] <AAA> damnation  the last command will show you your signal strenght and whatnot
[04:43] <damnation> ok, thankyou
[04:43] <damnation> um
[04:44] <cyanics> damnation, are you sure you are upping the right nic? how many nics are reported when you do a "ifconfig -a"
[04:44] <gekko`> neoth: and this: 'cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep MOUSE_PS2'
[04:44] <AAA> aujordanh  ok, then s:/eth1/eth2
[04:44] <damnation> i'll check cyanics :)
[04:44] <AAA> aujordanh  make eth2 auto
[04:44] <aujordanh> AAA, so it will say auto eth2 right?
[04:44] <AAA> aujordanh  and change line 8 to eth2
[04:44] <damnation> ok im gonna go try these bunch of commands
[04:45] <damnation> be back soon :> (hopefully in linux)
[04:45] <AAA> aujordanh  then ifconfig eth0 down ; ifconfig eth2 up
[04:45] <AAA> aujordanh  you are so almost there
[04:46] <neoth> gekko: little longer mousedev=m psaux=y psaux_enable=y mouse=y and mousedev_screen resolutions (hope you can follow the abbriviations :-/ )
[04:46] <LogicalDash> The entry for WinXP in my Grub menu seems to have been overwritten with the most recent Ubuntu update. How do I put it back?
[04:46] <aujordanh> AAA, where?
[04:46] <scrappy_> LogicalDash: there should still be a commented out example for xp
[04:46] <cyanics> LogicalDash, you mean as the default boot entry?
[04:47] <aujordanh> AAA, http://rafb.net/paste/results/zg74g469.html
[04:47] <LogicalDash> no, it was removed entirely, I think because I left it in the Debian Automagic Kernels-something area.
[04:47] <galamud> can anyone help me with my wireless?  every time i reboot my laptop, i have to set it up again in network-admin.
[04:47] <gekko`> neoth: and 'ls /dev/ | grep ps' really outputs nothing?
[04:47] <LogicalDash> I'm not sure if it should be hd0,0 or hd0,1
[04:48] <neoth> gekko yep just did it again
[04:48] <wheelswitch> does ncftp have a gui?
[04:48] <scrappy_> LogicalDash: what is the partition? hda1 or hda2?
[04:48] <LogicalDash> hda1
[04:48] <scrappy_> hd0,0
[04:48] <Plouj> I installed swf-flash, how do I enable it in firefox?
[04:48] <LogicalDash> ok I'll try it...
[04:48] <scrappy_> LogicalDash: also youll prob need the chainloader+1 at the end
[04:49] <wheelswitch> does ncftp have a gui?
[04:49] <aujordanh> Plouj, are you trying to enable flash in firefox?
[04:49] <Plouj> aujordanh: yes
[04:49] <aujordanh> Plouj, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[04:50] <kinection> i think my friend may have disabled ipv4 and is using ipv6 instead, how can i switch it back to ipv4?
[04:50] <BrianG> cfdisk didnt do anything, mkfat didnt exist and echo $PATH didn't show me anyhting usefull
[04:50] <scrappy_> BrianG: what are you looking for?
[04:50] <aujordanh> kinection, in firefox?
[04:50] <BrianG> so i formated it on a windows PC in half the time it took me to ask
[04:51] <kinection> aujordanh: in everywhere, even dhcp client can't get an address
[04:51] <hyphenated> BrianG: mkfs.vfat
[04:51] <kinection> aujordanh: i think it's because of ipv6, not certain
[04:51] <sethk> BrianG, mkdosfs
[04:51] <aujordanh> okay i can do it in firefox not the entire system
[04:51] <BrianG> scrappy_: my USB stick was reporting the wrong capacity, was looking for a way to format it in ubuntu?
[04:51] <sethk> as in mkdosfs /dev/fd0 for a floppy
[04:51] <BrianG> mkdosfs /dev/sda i think it would have been?
[04:52] <sethk> BrianG, you want the entire device, no partitions?  windows doesn't like that
[04:52] <gekko`> neoth: ok, let's try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19656
[04:52] <BrianG> its a 512mb usb drive
[04:52] <sethk> BrianG, better name to use is:   mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[04:52] <sethk> BrianG, even on those windows makes a partition table and partitions
[04:52] <gekko`> neoth: oh wait, i made a mistake
[04:52] <BrianG> well i formated it in windows just now
[04:52] <BrianG> so im sure its fine
[04:53] <AAA> aujordanh  you also need that lo in line1
[04:53] <wheelswitch> i would like an ftp program that can have multiple connections to one ftp server, any ideas?
[04:53] <scrappy_> BrianG: if you type mk and hit tab twice it will dislay all the possible commands depending on file type you want also the apropos command like apropos fat
[04:53] <sethk> BrianG, should be, yes. I was just clearing up the confusion about it being easy to do in linux
[04:53] <BrianG> sethk: why sda1? the device is sda isnt it?
[04:53] <aujordanh> AAA, auto lo eth2 and we're good right?
[04:53] <sethk> BrianG, sda1 is the first partition on device sda.  do this:   fdisk -l /dev/sda        if you see a partition table, then you use sda1
[04:54] <sethk> BrianG, if it's mounted already in linux you can just do:    mount    (no arguments, just mount)  which shows you what's currently mounted
[04:54] <AAA> aujordanh  should be, to test ifconfig eth2 down and then ifconfig eth2 up
[04:54] <gekko`> neoth: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19657
[04:54] <BrianG> oh... /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat
[04:55] <sethk> BrianG, right, that's how windows does it.  same for digital camera cards, other types of memory sticks, etc.
[04:55] <aujordanh> AAA, here goes,
[04:55] <AAA> aujordanh  good luck
[04:55] <sethk> BrianG, so if you want to be able to see it in windows, and you want to set it up in linux, you have to do  fdisk /dev/sda      create one partition taking up the entire thing, then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[04:56] <sethk> BrianG, or do it in windows as you already know  :)
[04:56] <BrianG> thanks!
[04:57] <rixth> Alrighty. I just reinstalled Dapper, now I have some weird glitch with the screen not being redrawn. http://i1.tinypic.com/23kakcw.png The black bits are where I was actually pressing the left mouse button. This thing makes image editing impossible. This also happens in <textarea> tags on web pages.
[04:57] <neoth> gekko: looking better. i need to get the synaptics package installed (x was looking for it according to the logs). i can copy them if you want to take a look.
[04:57] <holycow> jesus
[04:57] <gekko`> neoth: yeah, sure
[04:57] <holycow> how the hell can anyone run windows
[04:58] <holycow> this bloody thing requires infinite reboots
[04:58] <aujordanh> AAA, it seems as if nothing happened
[04:58] <aujordanh> is that what we want?
[04:58] <aujordanh> AAA, usually silence in linux is good...
[04:58] <aujordanh> AAA, i don't think it worked...
[04:59] <neoth> gekko: http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/Xorg.0.log
[04:59] <aj1> Is there a dummy package to install X Server and gnome?
[05:00] <hyphenated> aj1: ubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <ajt> hyphenated: thanks
[05:00] <gekko`> neoth: yes, you need that synaptics package
[05:02] <Ross> hey, i'm new to the whole linux scene, although i have a bit of experience.  i'm trying to install ubuntu on a new dell laptop, and dual boot with windows....
[05:03] <Ross> i've downloaded the cd, and burned it...it starts to boot, but then stops, and gives me an A:/ prompt, labeled dr-dos
[05:03] <Bonez> hi, I installed kubuntu-desktop but then didn't like KDE, so removed all the packages via synaptec. but now my splash/boot screen says Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu, is there any way I can change this back to Ubuntu?
[05:04] <scrappy_> Bonez: i think you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm or something like that
[05:04] <neoth> gekko: dependencies are a version of libc6 (i just did apt-get for it and it still doesnt come up with a new enough version for it) as well as xserver-xorg-core which wont come up in apt-get
[05:05] <neoth> gekko: could it be my sources (im pretty sure i rebuilt them correctly)
[05:05] <rixth> Alrighty. I just reinstalled Dapper, now I have some weird glitch with the screen not being redrawn. http://i1.tinypic.com/23kakcw.png The black bits are where I was actually pressing the left mouse button. This thing makes image editing impossible. This also happens in <textarea> tags on web pages.
[05:05] <AAA> Bonez  I wouldn't even worry about the splash screen, I think you can change it via grub if you want
[05:06] <gekko`> neoth: what does 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-core' tell you?
[05:06] <Ross> is there a universal install-guide for ubuntu?
[05:07] <neoth> gekko: xserver-xorg-core is not available, but is referred to by another package
[05:07] <pppoehelpplzzz> i am in need of help
[05:07] <scrappy_> Ross: there is wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com which is i think more linear..
[05:07] <hyphenated> Ross: sure. Boot the install CD. Once it completes booting, double-click the 'Install' icon ;-)
[05:07] <Ross> lol
[05:07] <pppoehelpplzzz> i am trying ubuntu on live cd
[05:08] <Ross> for some reason, it doesn't seem to get past the first part of the installation
[05:08] <damnation> i'm back.. but im in windows again =[
[05:08] <damnation> none of those commands helped me
[05:08] <pppoehelpplzzz> how do i get it to connect to the internet on a cable modem (ppc port)
[05:08] <damnation> should i head towards installing ndiswrapper
[05:09] <gekko`> neoth: then check your sources.list for this line: http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main
[05:10] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  do you have an eth0 on your box? ifconfig -a will show you
[05:10] <pppoehelpplzzz> i do have an eathernet card if thats what you mean
[05:10] <neoth> gekko so im guessing its not a good thing that im running hoary
[05:10] <carthik> Hi, how can I reformat a partition (/dev/sda1) as an ext3 drive from the command line?
[05:11] <gekko`> neoth: ohhh
[05:11] <Leeif> is there a cvs repository for ubuntu?
[05:11] <scrappy_> carthik: mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[05:11] <gekko`> neoth: well, i didn't know that
[05:11] <neoth> gekko the line is there (hoary not dapper of course)
[05:11] <TheMoebius> is there a GUI program for font management? something that lists the fonts you have and makes it easy to install new ones, etc?
[05:11] <neoth> gekko my bad
[05:11] <tivoklr> isn't that geico?
[05:11] <bruenig> TheMoedbius, System>Preferences>Fonts?
[05:12] <gekko`> neoth: so it's called 'hoary-updates main' right?
[05:12] <pppoehelpplzzz> im tring dapper should i have gotton hoary??
[05:12] <neoth> gekko "hoary-updates main restricted"
[05:12] <TheMoebius> bruenig: that only allows you to change font preferences
[05:12] <Leeif> i need gnome cs
[05:12] <Leeif> *cvs
[05:12] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  no dapper is current and stable, your computer is behind a firewall/DSL modem?
[05:12] <gekko`> neoth: ok, did you just added that repository?
[05:12] <thinh> anyone play nexuiz?
[05:13] <damnation> AAA: should i just use ndiswrapper?
[05:13] <pppoehelpplzzz> a motorola surfboard cable modem
[05:13] <thinh> how u start nexuiz
[05:13] <neoth> gekko no it was there since i redid the sources list
[05:13] <damnation> i'm pretty sure it won't work otherwise..
[05:13] <pppoehelpplzzz> it doesnt give me the option to add a new connection (mind you im on the live cd )
[05:13] <AAA> damnation  copy your device name and paste that into google and add +linux I don't know what driver you need dude
[05:14] <EcW> hi..
[05:14] <EcW> im downloading updates, almost downloaded 123 of 154
[05:14] <damnation> i know what drive i need
[05:14] <damnation> i'm just asking
[05:14] <thinh> anyone know how run nexuiz i install from the zip, do i have to use wine with it?
[05:14] <Crane> I have motorolla surfboard
[05:14] <damnation> should i try ndiswrapper, since i can't get it working normally?
[05:15] <EcW> i want to stop it now, but there is not button. just a cancel button. if i press cancel button so from next time when i install update again it will start updating from the same or will start update newly
[05:15] <scrappy_> thinh: does the executable say .exe? if so its a good bet yes
[05:15] <AAA> damnation  if there is a native linux driver, use it. the only reason to use the ndiswrapper is if you have a card that doesn't have a native linux driver.  I do not know about your card.  A simple google search will tell you.
[05:15] <gekko`> neoth: well, then you downloaded the wrong .deb package
[05:15] <pppoehelpplzzz> so how do i egt ubuntu to let me add a connection on its live cd ver. or do i have to install it to get the option to be there its dapper 6.06 lts
[05:16] <neoth> gekko ahhh
[05:16] <gekko`> neoth: here is the one for hoary http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/xorg-driver-synaptics
[05:16] <EcW> i want to stop update.
[05:16] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  dhclient eth0 should get you a connection if your ethernet device has a driver and a link
[05:16] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[05:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:17] <thinh> is there are channel for games?
[05:17] <gekko`> neoth: that should solve your xserver-xorg-core problem. because there is no such package in hoary :)
[05:17] <ju1ce> I put sw_cursor in my xorg so my tv out can work with my ati card but now my mouse is all glitchy, any way to fix this?
[05:17] <pppoehelpplzzz> its a standard apple ethernet card 10/100 base t
[05:17] <cmpalmer> anybody have a mic working with a "Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)" under dapper?
[05:17] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  what does ifconfig eth0 say?
[05:17] <pppoehelpplzzz> dhclient eth0 it that a command or a file or ??
[05:17] <neoth> gekko lol! that could be a problem.. ill try this out
[05:17] <ezenu> are there any decent open source games out? that aren't difficult to install?
[05:18] <AAA> dhclient eth0 is a command to get dhcp from a dhcp server on eth0
[05:18] <pppoehelpplzzz> im not sure i only have 1 working comp at the moenent and im on it looking for help
[05:18] <gekko`> neoth: just use 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics'
[05:18] <Tamale> pengiun racer  :)
[05:18] <thinh> wolfenstien enemy terrorotyr is pretty good
[05:18] <J2D2> I ran the command apt-get dist-upgrade and i got an error, its long, can i paste it?
[05:18] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  do you have an eth0 (ifconfig eth0)
[05:18] <rixth> Alrighty. I just reinstalled Dapper, now I have some weird glitch with the screen not being redrawn. http://i1.tinypic.com/23kakcw.png The black bits are where I was actually pressing the left mouse button. This thing makes image editing impossible. This also happens in <textarea> tags on web pages.
[05:18] <gekko`> one apt-get install too much
[05:18] <AAA> rixth  can you paste that 10 more times?
[05:18] <scrappy_> thinh: there is ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat about games under linux or whatever
[05:19] <pppoehelpplzzz> but the pppoeconf script said that there was no lan card available
[05:19] <AAA> rixth  if someone has an answer to you question they will tell you, I don't know
[05:19] <pppoehelpplzzz> all it gives me is tty0, 1, 2 ect.
[05:19] <BrianG> why is banshee using freedb and not musicbrainz?
[05:19] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  will you just try what I say?  you first need an ethernet device (with drivers) to connect ppoe
[05:19] <rixth> AAA, every ten minutes, so new people see it.
[05:19] <gekko`> neoth: I meant 'apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics', pasted the wrong package
[05:20] <pppoehelpplzzz> i have one
[05:20] <doughboy> I am thinking about purchasing a laptop tomorrow and was wondering if there is a website that could be recommended in order to set up a linksys wireless router in Ubuntu. I am a newbie with wireless routers and need all the help I can get.
[05:20] <pppoehelpplzzz> eth0 is there
[05:20] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  good, now do mii-tool eth0
[05:20] <Tamale> rixth:  Have you tried re-seating your graphics card?
[05:20] <Tamale> Those look like genuine artifacts
[05:20] <oxez> I'm having a small bug with compiz: when compiz is turned on, some apps' title bar go under my top panel. And when I right click on their icons in the taskbar to "move" them, there is no way to get out of the "Moving" mode.. any hint? lol
[05:20] <pppoehelpplzzz> mii-tool eth0 in the terminal right
[05:20] <Tamale> oxez:  Escape should get you out of the "move" mode
[05:20] <thinh> how do i join another channel noob
[05:20] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  yes, it will tell you if you have a link
[05:21] <rixth> Tamale, this is a brand new system, so that could explain why they just appear. I shall try that!
[05:21] <scrappy_> doughboy: from what i hear avoid broadcom wifi cards
[05:21] <baconbacon> doughboy, the local wireless card is the preoccupation when using wireless with linux, the router will work
[05:21] <AAA> thinh  /join #channel
[05:21] <neoth> gekko the package you linked me to installed fine
[05:21] <oxez> Tamale: oh, ok thanks
[05:21] <Tamale> also, you can contrain windows to your view
[05:21] <nbound> is there any way to get anything above flash 7 workin?
[05:21] <Tamale> so that won't happen
[05:21] <pppoehelpplzzz> it just gives me that > symbol like its incomplete or something
[05:21] <gekko`> neoth: ok, if you installed that package, try running your xserver
[05:21] <baconbacon> doughboy: most intel wireless are supported by an oss driver
[05:21] <Frankenstein> !upgrade
[05:21] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:21] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  type:> mii-tool
[05:22] <pppoehelpplzzz> damn it im going to get linux 4 dummies tomarrow ne way ill just use mac os for now
[05:22] <neoth> gekko no go... its not detecting a device now (ah circles!)
[05:22] <pppoehelpplzzz> i did 3 times
[05:22] <scrappy_> nbound: i used to run firefox under wine for flash stuff
[05:22] <pppoehelpplzzz> peace thanks for the help
[05:22] <gekko`> neoth: what's the error message this time?
[05:22] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  don't get so frustrated so quickly
[05:22] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  sounds like you don't have a driver for your NICz
[05:22] <nbound> scrappy_, any way other than that, an open source implementation or something?
[05:23] <AAA> er NIC
[05:23] <doughboy> Thanks folks
[05:23] <scrappy_> nbound: not that im aware of
[05:23] <AAA> pppoehelpplzzz  does ifconfig -a show you any output?
[05:23] <neoth> gekko http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/Xorg.0.log
[05:23] <nbound> damn... anyone else got any idea?
[05:24] <AAA> nbound  what are you trying to do?
[05:25] <Tamale> can i have php4 and 5 on at the same time?
[05:25] <Tamale> or should i just have 5 ?
[05:25] <gekko`> neoth: ok, this is a bit different. what does 'ls /dev/ | grep ps' and 'ls /dev/input' say now?
[05:25] <nbound> AAA, wondering if theres any way other than running firefox under WINE, to get flash 8 and above working
[05:25] <AAA> Tamale  your webserver will only honor one or the other
[05:26] <Tamale> is one generally more used?
[05:26] <AAA> nbound  crap.  I have few ideas
[05:26] <neoth> gekko same things... should i restart the system? (i have no idea if that would help)
[05:26] <AAA> Tamale  depends on what your are doing with your php I guess
[05:26] <nbound> AAA, please share... its gettin to be an annoyance :(
[05:26] <gekko`> neoth: ahh...you did pasted the wrong xorg.conf
[05:27] <dura> Is anyone here using postfix?
[05:27] <neoth> what!? noooo lol
[05:27] <AAA> nbound  hehe, nothing that is practical.  don't tell me you want this for myspace
[05:27] <gekko`> neoth: /dev/event0 but it should be /dev/input/event0
[05:27] <dura> I can't make it stop wanting to use smtp-amavis
[05:27] <tivoklr> i swear i'm gonna smack the person that fingered up this monitor...
[05:27] <neoth> gekko ill make the change hold on
[05:27] <nbound> AAA, no not for myspace, though i use it occasionally
[05:27] <AAA> dura  update-rc.d -f smtp-amavis remove && /etc/init.d/smtp-amavis stop
[05:27] <yggdrasil> hello, i just installed a combo pci usb ethernet firewire card in my ppc bases system i can see the devices in lspci and was wondering how can i check to see they are functional ?
[05:27] <Zambezi> AAA, I have really strange problems. If you know Swedish, you can see the pastebin. Becasue of the packages, I can't even use apt-get upgrade.
[05:28] <dura> AAA: Okay...
[05:28] <nbound> AAA, just all the sites that have flash 8 these days... though flash 9 would of course be a bonus
[05:28] <AAA> Zambezi  just en
[05:28] <dura> well... smtp-amavis wasn't there in /etc/init.d/
[05:29] <AAA> nbound  I hear ya, I don't mess with flash enough to care really
[05:29] <neoth> gekko well that changed the error log a bit... hold on ill upload it
[05:29] <nbound> AAA, fair enough... oh well, its not that big of a deal anyway
[05:29] <yggdrasil> oh i geusee it must be owrking b ecause i see the modules loaded using lsmod .. cool
[05:29] <AAA> dura that is odd, but it is running on your box? ps auxww|grep amavis
[05:29] <AAA> yggdrasil  you are so crusty ;)
[05:29] <Zambezi> AAA, If you spoke German, you might recognize some words. I think I have to reinstall the system during the week.
[05:30] <yggdrasil> aaa yar
[05:30] <dura> AAA: No... i removed it... I've unstalled/reinstalled postfix like 7 times now too trying to make it stop complaining about amavis
[05:30] <yggdrasil> uh i assume that might be good ?
[05:30] <dura> unin
[05:30] <dura> heh
[05:30] <damnation> ok i think i've found my fix, thanks AAA :)
[05:30] <AAA> Zambezi  i took a year in high school, so that means squat ;)
[05:30] <yggdrasil> ill stick a usb drive on it and see if its lejit
[05:30] <neoth> gekko http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/Xorg.0.log
[05:30] <AAA> damnation  good for you, questions and research and BANGING YOUR HEAD works :)
[05:30] <rixth> Tamale, problem remains. I will install the nvidia driver, see if that fixes it. I have no use for 3d accelleration.
[05:30] <AAA> yggdrasil  with a nick like yours?
[05:31] <yggdrasil> hehehe
[05:31] <searayman> how can i found out what my graphics card is on ubuntu?
[05:31] <AAA> searayman  lspci
[05:31] <yggdrasil> lspci
[05:31] <AAA> haha
[05:31] <dura> dmesg
[05:31] <dura> :))
[05:31] <yggdrasil> uuuuu
[05:31] <Tamale> rixth:  Yes, i would definitely recommend using the right driver.
[05:31] <AAA> I recommend the left driver
[05:31] <yggdrasil> aaa quit being jealouse , of my originality.
[05:31] <rixth> Tamale, I'm using the OSS one that just does 2d.
[05:31] <AAA> yggdrasil  ha
[05:31] <gekko`> neoth: ok, replace /dev/input/event0 with /dev/input/event1
[05:31] <yggdrasil> tamale you know jose ?
[05:31] <neoth> gekko 10-4
[05:31] <AAA> mmmm vegi tamales
[05:32] <yggdrasil> how about hose b?
[05:32] <searayman> AAA:  what things says the name of my card under lspci
[05:32] <gekko`> neoth: huh?
[05:32] <yggdrasil> ba dump bump
[05:32] <yggdrasil> ok back to work. thanks for the affection aaa
[05:32] <AAA> searayman  the thing talking about vga
[05:32] <forevertheuni> hi.I've followed the setup to wpa+rt2500 in wiki...but...it doesn't work it says the entry is dupplicated or something :/ (in this 2 lines) ifconfig ra0 up
[05:32] <forevertheuni> ifconfig ra0 down
[05:33] <searayman> AAA:  i see lots of via where is the vga
[05:33] <searayman> AAA:  found it
[05:33] <pozdiy_> forevertheuni, you may have to use --force option with your ifdown
[05:33] <searayman> AAA:  is this it: S3 UniChr ome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[05:33] <neoth> gekko sorry... working on it (10-4 like radio slang for ok)
[05:33] <AAA> searayman  then you prolly have a via onboard vga chipset. you should be able to see the model number and google for the proper driver
[05:33] <gekko`> neoth: ohh, alright
[05:33] <AAA> searayman  prolly
[05:33] <searayman> AAA:  found it
[05:33] <AAA> w00
[05:34] <searayman> AAA:  is this it: S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[05:34] <AAA> searayman  I'd suspect so
[05:34] <searayman> AAA:  is that a bad one lol
[05:34] <AAA> searayman  not neccesarily
[05:34] <neoth> gekko log changed a bit http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/Xorg.0.log
[05:35] <neoth> not really
[05:35] <searayman> AAA:  can i give u a link to a website and coudl u tell me if its good enough to play a certain game?
[05:36] <AAA> searayman  I don't play games and my kid is making me leave my computer =D
[05:36] <searayman> AAA:  can u tell me if i can play a ceratin game with that?
[05:36] <searayman> AAA:  wait to secons please?
[05:36] <Zambezi> If anyone knows Swedish or would like to see and try to explain this problem, all help are welcomed: http://pastebin.ca/114593
[05:36] <searayman> can somone help me with a graphics card question
[05:37] <sovi3t> searayman what game
[05:37] <searayman> i need to see if i can play a game with my graphics card
[05:37] <searayman> sovi3t: i need to have one of these or better: Radeon 8500LE or Geforce MX400 or better
[05:37] <rixth> No more artifacts!
[05:37] <searayman> sovi3t:  i ahve this: S3 UniChrome Integrated Video (rev 01)
[05:37] <gekko`> neoth: well, ok. this is my last try: show me the output of 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices'
[05:37] <shawnr_> is there a allinone howto site for ubuntu 64 like this one for 32 ?-> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[05:37] <distanceisdeath> hello can someone please help me with a broadcom built in ndiswrapper
[05:38] <searayman> sovi3t:  yes or no?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper > distanceisdeath
[05:38] <sovi3t> searayman give me a sec
[05:38] <distanceisdeath> Hobbsee: i have tried everything with a faq
[05:38] <searayman> sovi3t:  roger, over
[05:39] <Hobbsee> distanceisdeath: even the stuff off that link about broadcom?
[05:39] <rixth> Bug, anyone? I just sync'd my time via the internet (using time-admin), now when I try and use sudo I get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug  4 23:34:18 2006
[05:39] <rixth> So I don't have access to root.
[05:39] <distanceisdeath> Hobbsee: yes i have tried everything i need a person to help
[05:39] <neoth> gekko: it shows a keyboard and a pc speaker...
[05:39] <yggdrasil> aaa any hope for getting a console based system up and printer shareing on a usb hp all inone ?
[05:39] <rixth> This is a MASSIVE bug. It appears to lock the user out of the root account.
[05:40] <searayman> sovi3t:  anythign yet?
[05:40] <shawnr_> is there a all-in-one howto site for ubuntu 64 like this one for 32 ?-> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[05:40] <TooDamFast> how do i get glxgears to show fps?
[05:40] <gekko`> neoth: which laptop you got?
[05:40] <sovi3t> searayman on first glance i would say no
[05:40] <shawnr_> TooDamFast, man glxgears
[05:40] <TooDamFast> when i run it, the gears show up but no fps in consol?
[05:40] <sovi3t> searayman but i dont know that much about your card
[05:41] <neoth> gekko dont laugh too hard: dell latitude cs
[05:41] <searayman> sovi3t:  no one dose
[05:41] <shawnr_> nope, no man entry
[05:41] <yggdrasil> rixth reboot change the time to the time it thinks it is using the bios and then give it a try
[05:41] <searayman> sovi3t:  its like hp riped me off on my computer
[05:41] <shawnr_> TooDamFast, glsgears -info
[05:41] <Cornellius> yggdrasil: Took that from Xenogears heh ?
[05:41] <rixth> yggdrasil, I thought it updated the cmos clock too =/ alrighty, will try.
[05:42] <shawnr_> TooDamFast, get it?
[05:42] <klees> what's the best movie plugin for firefox?????
[05:42] <shawnr_> mplayer
[05:42] <Bonez> hi
[05:42] <yggdrasil> rixth its quick and dirty
[05:42] <sovi3t> searayman: you could always go out and buy an ati or nvidia
[05:42] <Ireclan> Hello. I'm having difficulties installing Ubuntu 6.06
[05:43] <klees> shawnr_: i dont see the plugin in the repo...
[05:43] <searayman> sovi3t:  what are they runnign at price range?
[05:43] <Bonez> i'm using gparted at the moment to resize a FAT32 partition, how long should I expect this to take? it's been about 30 minutes and nothing has happened so far, the progress bar just keeps flashing side to side.
[05:43] <Ireclan> I also have a few questions.
[05:43] <forevertheuni> pozdiy, tnx i'll try(you help 10 minutes ago :D)
[05:43] <sovi3t> searayman: i bought my nvidia for like 60-70
[05:43] <sovi3t> searayman: and nvidias drivers work a lot better on linux than ati
[05:43] <searayman> sovi3t:  k thanks
[05:43] <TooDamFast> ok,  glxgears -info just dumps a ton of crap in my console but no fps...
[05:43] <niran> i installed msttcorefonts, but firefox is still using ugly fonts instead of the real ones
[05:43] <gekko`> neoth: does 'cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep DELL' output something?
[05:43] <klees> shawnr_: nvm i see it
[05:43] <yggdrasil> cornellius took that from fifth element ehh ?.. actualy took it from a tree, an old tree. that bound heaven and hell together .. at least way back befor anything else was thought
[05:43] <sovi3t> searayman np
[05:43] <shawnr_> klees, did you search? mozilla-mplayer
[05:43] <searayman> sovi3t: will it easily work woh ubuntu?
[05:43] <Ireclan> My first question is:
[05:44] <niran> does anyone know how to turn off the alias for Times New Roman, Helvetica, etc?
[05:44] <klees> shawnr_: saw it
[05:44] <forevertheuni> pozdiy, but it's not working
[05:44] <prophet> anyone have any idea why when i minimize my apps they disappear from the bottom panel? something in XGL?
[05:44] <Cornellius> yggdrasil: It's also the name of a ship in a game :)
[05:44] <forevertheuni> pozdiy, i've reboot and all :/
[05:44] <sovi3t> searayman: i didnt have any problems at all setting it up
[05:44] <sovi3t> searayman: ati was a different story though
[05:44] <Ireclan> Why did they make the install CD the only rout of permanent installation?
[05:44] <searayman> sovi3t: so go nvidia?
[05:44] <TooDamFast> ati sucks...
[05:44] <yggdrasil> cornellius yea i know, never played the game though i get that alot
[05:44] <sovi3t> searayman: yea
[05:45] <pozdiy_> forevertheuni, tell me if the --force worked for you, it does for me
[05:45] <TooDamFast> ireclan did you try safe mode on the live cd?
[05:45] <Cornellius> TooDamFast: Be nice please.
[05:45] <Bonez> i'm using gparted at the moment to resize a FAT32 partition, how long should I expect this to take? it's been about 30 minutes and nothing has happened so far, the progress bar just keeps flashing side to side.
[05:45] <Ireclan> No.
[05:45] <TooDamFast> it was the only way i could get it to load
[05:45] <TooDamFast> worked fine once i got it installed.
[05:46] <searayman> sovi3t: do u know anything about edgy by the way?
[05:46] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[05:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:46] <forevertheuni> I have an error on ifup Invalid command : AuthMode=WPAPSK
[05:46] <mheath[laptop] > Ireclan, it is not the only mode of installation, though it is the only 'official' mode of installation.
[05:46] <forevertheuni> I have pre-up iwpriv ra0 AuthMode=WPAPSK
[05:46] <sovi3t> searayman not really
[05:46] <Bonez> i'm using gparted at the moment to resize a FAT32 partition, how long should I expect this to take? it's been about 30 minutes and nothing has happened so far, the progress bar just keeps flashing side to side.
[05:46] <mheath[laptop] > Ireclan, be aware, though, that there is also an 'alternative' install CD that offers more customization and configuration options.
[05:46] <forevertheuni> probably I don't have rt2500 package installed :/ is it needed? or it comes with ubuntu?
[05:46] <mheath[laptop] > Ireclan, following tutorials online, though, it is also possible to install off of a knoppix livecd, install off floppy disks, or install off the network.
[05:46] <searayman> sovi3t:  also do u know any good fps that i coudl play on ubuntu with my graphics card?
[05:47] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19660
[05:47] <vilefridge> Hello everyone!  I've ran into a rather strange problem last night.  I let Update manager go ahead and do a sleugh of updates.  Upon rebooting, my font size for everything (Windows, Programs, icons on desktop, etc..)  was sooo small.  I have no idea how to fix this.  I've been to #xubuntu and toyed around with User Interface settings without any luck.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Anyone heard of this happening before?  Is this
[05:47] <vilefridge>  a bug?
[05:47] <Ireclan> Thankyou. I shall try that. Because when I try the default rout, it takes FOREVER to do a damn thing, even though I meet the memory requirements for the livecd.
[05:47] <sovi3t> searayman: not really, i dont do much gaming on this box
[05:47] <Bonez> i'm using gparted at the moment to resize a FAT32 partition, how long should I expect this to take? it's been about 30 minutes and nothing has happened so far, the progress bar just keeps flashing side to side.
[05:48] <TooDamFast> ive spent about 6 hrs trying to get a good fps on my ati x850 pro card with cedega.  after reading on the web it looks like i will be buying a new card.
[05:48] <searayman> anyone know anythign about games on ubuntu?
[05:48] <lightstar> vilefridge, are you on xfce now?
[05:48] <shawnr_> searayman, be a bit more specific
[05:48] <sovi3t> searayman: you could always browse through the games section in synaptic
[05:48] <shawnr_> is there a all-in-one howto site for ubuntu 64 like this one for 32 ?-> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[05:49] <searayman> shawnr_:  want to know a easily instable fps to play on ubuntu
[05:49] <shawnr_> ahhh
[05:49] <vilefridge> lightstar, yes
[05:49] <shawnr_> searayman, single or multi
[05:49] <TheMoebius> so if I've just copied a new font into the fonts dir, so I have to restart my x server to start using it?
[05:49] <klees> shawnr_: i installed the mplayer plugin, now how can i tell it to automatically open .wmv files within the browser??
[05:49] <shawnr_> restart browser
[05:50] <searayman> shawnr_:  i would like multi
[05:50] <yggdrasil> you might alwso have to install lib avcodec
[05:50] <shawnr_> you need the w32 codecs for wmv
[05:50] <searayman> shawnr_:  and i didnt really like wolfenstien enemy territory
[05:50] <TooDamFast> unreal tournament 2004 has native support for linux.
[05:50] <klees> i have them installed
[05:50] <lightstar> vilefridge, you can either do 1 of two things to get your font proper size...run gnome-settings-daemon or edit the .gtkrc-2.0 file and add 'gtk-font-name="verdana 12"' in that file
[05:50] <TooDamFast> its about the best you do right now...
[05:50] <searayman> is unreal free?
[05:50] <shawnr_> searayman, like what are you looking for, counter strike?
[05:50] <TooDamFast> nope
[05:50] <shawnr_> searayman, no
[05:50] <searayman> shawnr_:  soemthign free
[05:50] <shawnr_> you need to wolfinstine mod
[05:50] <Bonez> i'm using gparted at the moment to resize a FAT32 partition, how long should I expect this to take? it's been about 30 minutes and nothing has happened so far, the progress bar just keeps flashing side to side.
[05:50] <damnation`> no luck, forgot to d/l ndiswrapper =[
[05:50] <searayman> shawnr_:  that i dont need a brilliant graphics card for
[05:51] <klees> shawnr_: it still asking me what program to use to open the file...
[05:51] <sovi3t> searayman: americas army has native linux support
[05:51] <vilefridge> lightstar, hrmmm -->  eric@ubuntu:~$ gnome-settings-daemon You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting
[05:51] <sagarp> where is gnome-config in ubuntu?? it's not in gnome-libs-data or whatever
[05:51] <skavenge> could try tremulous or america's army, they're both free
[05:51] <skavenge> its all fps though
[05:51] <shawnr_> no no no
[05:51] <searayman> sovi3t:  but didnt they stop linux with it?
[05:51] <_priest> i got hl2 in wine going :D
[05:51] <damnation`> ok, some questions, how do i un-'tar.gz' something? and where does it go, and how does one install a pre-downloaded copy of ndiswrapper
[05:51] <lightstar> vilefridge, i tried it b4 n it worked..but i wouldnt recommend it though...takes up resources...try the 2nd method
[05:52] <shawnr_> seam, TRUE COMBAT ELITE
[05:52] <_priest> damnation`: tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[05:52] <lightstar> vilefridge, remember to logout and login again for the .gtkrc-2.0 file to take effect
[05:52] <shawnr_> searayman, http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php
[05:52] <damnation`> thanks priest
[05:52] <_priest> damnation`: np
[05:52] <_priest> damnation`: youll have to check the readme for installation instructions
[05:52] <sovi3t> searayman: not that i know of
[05:52] <TooDamFast> wow, tremulous looks good.
[05:53] <damnation`> thanks :)
[05:53] <damnation`> i'm gonna go try it
[05:53] <damnation`> bbl
[05:53] <_priest> cool gl
[05:53] <shawnr_> searayman, http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php
[05:53] <damnation`> ty =] 
[05:53] <searayman> sovi3t:  got a site not found on that website
[05:53] <TooDamFast> i got hl2 going too with cedega with 15 fps....
[05:53] <shawnr_> searayman, and you don't need a killer system for that either i have shitty grfx card and i get 80-90fps on some maps
[05:53] <_priest> TooDamFast: ouch with the latest wine .9.18 it runs smooth with me
[05:53] <_priest> TooDamFast: at least 40 fps
[05:54] <searayman> shawnr_:  can u help install it?
[05:54] <sovi3t> searayman: what website
[05:54] <searayman> sovi3t:  never mind that link i got it working
[05:54] <searayman> sovi3t:  what game did u say u play?
[05:54] <searayman> sovi3t:  true combat?
[05:54] <shawnr_> thats the site i sent you too
[05:54] <shawnr_> lol
[05:54] <sovi3t> lol
[05:54] <shawnr_> pay attention man
[05:54] <neoth> gekko any ideas? if not ill stop bugging you.
[05:54] <vilefridge> lightstar, alright, 2nd method...  eric@ubuntu:~$ sudo pico ~/.gtkrc-2.0    It's blank?  Is this not the right location?
[05:55] <Munchkinguy> Who do I talk to if I want to reccomend a package for inclusion in the Universe repository?
[05:55] <shawnr_> searayman, do you still have wolfienstien installed?
[05:55] <gekko`> neoth: try a reboot
[05:55] <searayman> shawnr_:  ye si was playign it a few minutes ago
[05:55] <lightstar> vilefridge, if its blank you can just create it
[05:55] <neoth> alright
[05:55] <shawnr_> searayman, leave it installed
[05:55] <_priest> vilefridge: why are you using sudo to edit a file in your users home dir?
[05:55] <shawnr_> searayman, you need it to install true combat
[05:56] <_priest> vilefridge: sudo is only for administrative tasks
[05:56] <searayman> shawnr_:  can u help me with that?
[05:56] <shawnr_> yea im doing that
[05:56] <_priest> ubuntulog: sudo?
[05:56] <searayman> shawnr_:  i am on the downloads section of that page u sent me
[05:56] <lightstar> vilefridge, oops..i missed the sudo.
[05:56] <_priest> i thought there was a bot in here
[05:56] <shawnr_> searayman, is your rtcw updated to 2.60?
[05:56] <TooDamFast> _priest: ati or Nv card?
[05:56] <vilefridge> _priest, ohhh, write privs to home directory, never occurred to me
[05:56] <mrak> can I install kubuntu ontop of ubuntu
[05:57] <mrak> by just installing kde packages? :)
[05:57] <_priest> TooDamFast: nv
[05:57] <searayman> shawnr_:  i dont know, can i check some how?
[05:57] <_priest> vilefridge: :)
[05:57] <vilefridge> lightstar, _priest, k brb
[05:58] <shawnr_> searayman, is your name registered?
[05:58] <TooDamFast> _priest ah.. ati drivers suck.
[05:58] <gekko`> neoth: after you've rebooted, give me the output of 'dmesg'
[05:58] <shawnr_> searayman, your irc nick, is it registered
[05:58] <_priest> TooDamFast: yea :( ive never been a big fan of ati
[05:58] <searayman> shawnr_:  not sure
[05:58] <TooDamFast> worked well with windose
[05:58] <ltsin> hi can someone tell me how to enable antialias in gnome?
[05:58] <_priest> TooDamFast: true but what video driver doesn't :)
[05:58] <shawnr_> look in your tabs, im trying to send you priv msg
[05:59] <TooDamFast> haha
[05:59] <vilefridge> lightstar, still tiny font :(
[05:59] <circasurvive> can someone help with this please? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-b3e888974e3f23d9367ca6f2f32edcb3764613a5
[05:59] <shawnr_> searayman, http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=52
[05:59] <shawnr_> searayman, tell me when your on that page
[05:59] <searayman> shawnr_:  i am
[06:00] <searayman> shawnr_:  i went into that private chat with u
[06:00] <_priest> circasurvive: whats wrong
[06:01] <circasurvive> i just need help on it
[06:01] <shawnr_> searayman, "true.combat.elite_0.48-english-5.run (134.01MB) [direct]  [md5] " - left click  on [direct]  and a save dialog should pop up
[06:01] <circasurvive> i am getthing lost
[06:01] <searayman> shawnr_: ok but should u talk to me in the private chat?
[06:01] <circasurvive> 1.2.2.1 eaxtract it yourself _priest
[06:01] <shawnr_> searayman, i've sent you like 8 messages in it already your not responding
[06:01] <searayman> shawnr_:  i was
[06:02] <searayman> shawnr_:  guesse u cant se em
[06:02] <shawnr_> searayman, your nick isn't registered then
[06:02] <searayman> shawnr_:  anywho dose this play differenty then wolfensteing?
[06:02] <shawnr_> yes
[06:02] <shawnr_> it plays much like cs
[06:02] <_priest> circasurvive: so you are stuck on downloading the firmware for your card?
[06:02] <searayman> shawnr_:  what the diffrence?
[06:02] <shawnr_> searayman, join #truecombat
[06:02] <gekko`> neoth: did you reboot?
[06:03] <circasurvive> _priest: yep
[06:03] <searayman> shawnr_:  now?
[06:03] <shawnr_> yes
[06:03] <searayman> shawnr_:  can i chat in two irc at the same time?
[06:03] <shawnr_> yes
[06:03] <shawnr_> wow
[06:03] <shawnr_> lol
[06:03] <_priest> circasurvive: did you find your firmware in : zless /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter/README.gz
[06:03] <shawnr_> your making my brain freeze
[06:03] <shawnr_> lol
[06:03] <_priest> ?
[06:03] <searayman> shawnr_:  do i just connect to it normally
[06:03] <shawnr_> type this: /join #truecombat
[06:03] <circasurvive> _priest: it showed me something very confusing
[06:04] <searayman> lol
[06:04] <shawnr_> oh my head
[06:04] <searayman> i got it now
[06:04] <shawnr_> lol
[06:04] <shawnr_> i don't see you
[06:04] <shawnr_> what on earth are you doing over there
[06:04] <searayman> shawnr_:  i am not finding #truecombat
[06:04] <_priest> circasurvive: Alternatively you can run the provided script.
[06:04] <_priest> sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[06:05] <_priest> why not just run that script
[06:05] <shawnr_> ahhhhhhh
[06:05] <_priest> after installing bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[06:05] <circasurvive> _priest: i didnt see that haha
[06:05] <shawnr_> searayman, type this in the message box: /join #truecombat
[06:05] <_priest> hehe
[06:06] <circasurvive> _priest: i have ndiswrapper with that driver installed, should i uninstall ndiswrappers?
[06:06] <wasauce> can anyone help me setup wake on lan? Is there something I need to set in ubuntu for is it just at the bios level?
[06:06] <neoth> gekko error again
[06:07] <gekko`> neoth: give me the output of 'dmesg'
[06:07] <_priest> circasurvive: you need to rmmod bcm43xx and rmmod ndiswrapper
[06:07] <circasurvive> do what
[06:07] <_priest> circasurvive: oh it looks like the driver is already present
[06:07] <circasurvive> sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper -priest
[06:07] <_priest> circasurvive: you just need to update your firmware
[06:07] <circasurvive> ?
[06:08] <kellan> i'm an ubuntu newbie (but experienced debian user), and i'm trying to help a friend with his ubuntu install, but i notice he doesn't have /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <kellan> is there some first step we're missing?
[06:08] <_priest> circasurvive: update your firmware, then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:08] <circasurvive> should i uninstall the ndiswrapper though to clear up the network connections
[06:08] <_priest> circasurvive: nah
[06:08] <_priest> circasurvive: that won't matter
[06:08] <circasurvive> okay
[06:08] <circasurvive> so how do i update my firmware
[06:08] <neoth> gekko http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/dmesg
[06:08] <cool_nick> i am new to linux. can anybody suggest me to which log files i have to keep a look at?
[06:08] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[06:08] <_priest> like that
[06:09] <circasurvive> the alternative code?
[06:09] <_priest> circasurvive: that comes from apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:09] <circasurvive> i did that
[06:09] <_priest> circasurvive: yea
[06:09] <circasurvive> okay
[06:09] <_priest> circasurvive: ok your firmware is updated, now you need to load the bcm driver
[06:09] <circasurvive> that was done when you pointed it out
[06:09] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:09] <sovi3t> cool_nick: generally /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg are pretty good ones to watch
[06:09] <_priest> and sudo modprobe ndiswrapper if you haven't already
[06:09] <circasurvive> do that too?
[06:09] <circasurvive> why
[06:10] <wasauce> can anyone help me setup wake on lan? Is there something I need to set inside ubuntu or is it just at the bios level?
[06:10] <_priest> circasurvive: is ndiswrapper loaded already?
[06:10] <circasurvive> i am not sure
[06:10] <sovi3t> wasauce: bios
[06:10] <circasurvive> no
[06:10] <_priest> wasauce: thats a bios thing
[06:10] <_priest> circasurvive: do lsmod |grep ndis
[06:10] <_priest> sudo lsmod |grep ndis
[06:10] <circasurvive> okay
[06:10] <wasauce> thank you
[06:10] <cool_nick> sovi3t: thanks
[06:10] <_priest> anything return?
[06:10] <circasurvive> it didnt ask for permission
[06:10] <circasurvive> no
[06:10] <sovi3t> cool_nice: np
[06:10] <_priest> ok you dont have ndiswrapper loaded
[06:11] <blish> joe
[06:11] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:11] <circasurvive> mhm
[06:11] <_priest> circasurvive: now sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:11] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo iwconfig will shwo you what device it is
[06:11] <circasurvive> wlan0
[06:12] <_priest> circasurvive: whats sudo ifconfig show
[06:12] <tuxcore> #ubuntu-es
[06:12] <circasurvive> wlan0 is ethernet!
[06:12] <phargle> finkle is einhorn
[06:13] <circasurvive> on the webpage it says the broadcom should be ethX
[06:13] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo ifconfig
[06:13] <circasurvive> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:A5:B9:92:0B
[06:13] <circasurvive>           inet6 addr: fe80::214:a5ff:feb9:920b/64 Scope:Link
[06:13] <circasurvive>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:13] <circasurvive>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:13] <circasurvive>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:13] <circasurvive>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:13] <circasurvive>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[06:13] <circasurvive>           Interrupt:185 Memory:30000000-30004000
[06:13] <circasurvive> sorry about that guys
[06:13] <shawnr_> is there a all-in-one howto site for ubuntu 64 like this one for 32 ?-> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[06:13] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo ifconfig
[06:14] <circasurvive> i am!
[06:14] <_priest> does that output any ethX devices?
[06:14] <circasurvive> nope
[06:14] <Awesome-o2000> phargle, einhorn=finkle!!!!
[06:14] <_priest> what about sudo dmesg
[06:14] <_priest> shawnr_: what do you need to know that is different from x86?
[06:14] <circasurvive> i am not seeing anything
[06:15] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo lsmod |grep bcm
[06:15] <_priest> ?
[06:15] <UbuntuJulez> :)
[06:15] <gekko`> neoth: is in your /dev folder anything like mouse?
[06:15] <circasurvive> bcm43xx               124044  0
[06:15] <circasurvive> ieee80211softmac       29696  1 bcm43xx
[06:15] <circasurvive> ieee80211              37064  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[06:16] <farous> circasurvive: do you also use ndiswrapper or just the native support for the bcm card
[06:16] <circasurvive> i modprobed both
[06:16] <NeoEcoS> hello, anyone can tellme how to report a bug ?
[06:16] <_priest> i hate wireless
[06:17] <circasurvive> well i need it
[06:17] <farous> wlan is normally ndiswrapper
[06:17] <circasurvive> i dont think i am supposed to load ndiswrapper
[06:17] <aujordanh> how do you open a .sh file?
[06:17] <farous> eth1 or 2 is native support
[06:17] <neoth> gekko nope not really
[06:17] <circasurvive> i tried everything for ndiswrapper and it didnt work
[06:17] <sovi3t> aujordanh: as in execute it or edit it
[06:17] <neoth> gekko think this could be fixed using a usb mouse? or other external pointer?
[06:17] <_priest> circasurvive: can you do $sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:17] <_priest> ?
[06:18] <circasurvive> no scan results
[06:18] <aujordanh> sovi3t, execute, sorry how do you run a .sh file?
[06:18] <farous> circasurvive: greaat so you do not have it. after modprobing the bcm modules you need sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:18] <Rub3X> everytime I try and partition it freezes @ 14% zero filling the drive doesn't work due to Input/output errors, anyone know how to fix this?  sata2 drive running in sata mode
[06:18] <circasurvive> so what do i do/
[06:19] <sovi3t> aujordanh: ./[file] .sh
[06:19] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:19] <gekko`> neoth: yea, i think so
[06:19] <sovi3t> aujordanh: or sh ./[file] .sh
[06:19] <vilefridge> _priest: no luck with the font change.  Is there any way to revert the updates that caused all this ruckus?
[06:19] <gekko`> neoth: does it have a ps/2 port?
[06:19] <_priest> vilefridge: i dont know what your original problem was
[06:20] <neoth> gekko its got a port im not sure if you need a splitter or something to hook both a keyboard and mouse up...
[06:20] <circasurvive> a lot just popped yp
[06:20] <circasurvive> up*
[06:20] <vilefridge> _priest, Update Manager did a bunch of updates, rebooted, and then font size was super small.  Some of the font sizes are back to normal, but applications still are using a smaller than normal font.  (Skype, conky, XChat, GAIM, etc) to name a few atm.
[06:21] <farous> circasurvive: now type iwconfig
[06:21] <circasurvive> okay it finsihed
[06:21] <circasurvive> finished**
[06:21] <gekko`> neoth: well, the keyboard of the laptop works doesn't it?
[06:21] <circasurvive> no what
[06:21] <circasurvive> now
[06:21] <ManiacKY> Okay. This is driving me crazy. I have a external hard drive that I will need to remove from my PC daily. However I can never get ubuntu to see it unless its plugged in while the system boots up! If I unmount it, remove it from the PC and then plug it back in it would mount or find the device again. :( I have to reboot before it finds it again. I can't be rebooting every day for other users are connected to this system at the same time. Any suggestions on
[06:21] <_priest> vilefridge: you may want to kill gdm/gnome and log into a vt
[06:21] <vilefridge> _priest, I think the updates were Gnome Theme related?  yet... I use XFCE.
[06:21] <_priest> vilefridge: then remove ~/.g*
[06:21] <_priest> and restart gnome
[06:21] <vilefridge> _priest, not using gnome..  does this apply to XFCE as well?
[06:22] <neoth> gekko yeah so i guess it doesnt matter
[06:22] <ShaunLAP> I've got two servers connected with irssi
[06:22] <ShaunLAP> How do I change the windows?
[06:22] <circasurvive> now what farous
[06:22] <_priest> vilefridge: i think xfce reads information from gtkrc files
[06:22] <farous> type iwconfig in  a terminal
[06:22] <circasurvive> i did
[06:22] <farous> what was the result
[06:22] <circasurvive> umm wlan0 had no essid or anything
[06:23] <gekko`> neoth: if you have a ps/2 mouse plug it in but before run 'tail -f /var/log/messages'
[06:23] <_priest> circasurvive: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:23] <farous> circasurvive: try lsmod |grep ndisw
[06:23] <scrappy_> ManiacKY: you can always just sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 or whatever
[06:23] <farous> just wana check if you have it
[06:23] <sovi3t> ManiacKY: try finding out which kernel module your hd is using, then you can sudo modprobe [module]  to get it back
[06:23] <neoth> gekko: little late... im booting up with the mouse in now
[06:23] <circasurvive> no scan results
[06:23] <circasurvive> and ndiswrappers are loaded
[06:23] <gekko`> neoth: ok
[06:24] <ManiacKY> scrappy_ Thats what I've been trying. It can't detect /dev/sda1 once I unplug it and reconnect it. Only if I reboot the system will it allow me to mount /dev/sda1 again
[06:24] <_priest> farous: i always thought the interfaces wifi or local were bout to ethX
[06:24] <farous> circasurvive: this is your problem you have to remove the ndiswrapper
[06:24] <circasurvive> okay
[06:24] <_priest> s/bout/bound
[06:24] <neoth> gekko then ill edit xorg.conf correct?
[06:24] <circasurvive> how do i un-modprobe them
[06:24] <gekko`> neoth: check if there is any device in /dev/ or /dev/input called mouse or mice
[06:25] <farous> _priest: for the wrappers it is wlan for native support it is ethx
[06:25] <sovi3t> ManiacKY: sudo dmesg when you plug it back in and see what it says
[06:25] <vilefridge> _priest, is there some way to check if there are other g* files I might not want to be deleting?  They appear hidden?
[06:25] <farous> circasurvive: depend how you installed them you have to retrace your steps to remove th ndiswrapper
[06:25] <neoth> gekko alright will do
[06:25] <farous> circasurvive: a good choice is to remove the ndiswrapper packages you installed
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> hi!! i just instaled ubuntu but i have problems with xserver
[06:26] <circasurvive> okay
[06:26] <circasurvive> wait uck
[06:26] <circasurvive> i have to reboot
[06:26] <NeoEcoS> Who can tell me how to report a bug on a package  ??
[06:26] <sovi3t> willys_fueguino: whats your problem
[06:26] <farous> circasurvive: good luck
[06:26] <DanaG> Aaargh, alsaconf has been REMOVED?
[06:27] <DanaG> AAArgh, now how am I supposed to set the sound cards' IDs?
[06:27] <scrappy_> ManiacKY: also after replug do maybe ls -t /dev/ | head does a sda or sdb device show up?
[06:27] <ManiacKY> sovi3t What does this do? Just list all the devices? Or does it actualy reset/clear something
[06:27] <crimsun> DanaG: why would you need alsaconf to set ids/
[06:27] <DanaG> I have 2 sound cards, and the wrong one s taking slot 0.
[06:27] <DaveLibu> hello   i have been having problems getting the talk program to work in ubuntu
[06:27] <crimsun> DanaG: I believe I addressed that precise question earlier yesterday.
[06:27] <sovi3t> ManiacKY: it gives you hardware debugging output
[06:27] <DaveLibu> i installed talk and talkd
[06:27] <DanaG> It's defaulting to my non-disableable onboard sound, but I want to use the external one.
[06:28] <DanaG> I can't even find a file that had the "alias sound-card-0 snd-hda-intel"
[06:28] <ManiacKY> scrappy_ its still getting assigned sda it looks
[06:28] <crimsun> DanaG: so set it by using the graphical interface (System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card), or just use asoundconf(1) directly
[06:28] <willys_fueguino> sovi3t; xserver wont load, its a bug but its suposed to run with the 2.6.15-23 kernel, and thats the kernel that i have!!
[06:29] <DaveLibu> i am ubuntu in this vt    i have another user account running in another vt
[06:29] <sovi3t> willys_fueguino, so whats it doing
[06:29] <ManiacKY> scrappy_ But it still saying mount point /dev/sda1 doesn't exist now that I've replugged it back in
[06:29] <crimsun> DanaG: you're making it more difficult than it really is. Forget about the sound-card- aliases.
[06:30] <ManiacKY> scrappy_ When I try to remount it
[06:30] <scrappy_> ManiacKY: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda what partitions does it list?
[06:30] <willys_fueguino> sovi3t, i dont know what to do
[06:30] <scrappy_> ManiacKY: er just do sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[06:30] <ManiacKY> scrappy_ Um it doesn't list or do anything it just sends me to the back the command prompt, no output
[06:30] <sovi3t> willys_fueguino, like is the screen flickering and then going back to the console or is it getting stuck or what
[06:31] <DaveLibu> i try to talk between the accounts   i do get the notification in the 2nd account shell   talk request from other account  respond with  talk blah-blah   i do so but both talks just sit there without connecting
[06:31] <naknomik> I've been playing with Xgl and Compiz, and have not been able to figure out how to get the screensaver working. Any ideas?
[06:32] <DaveLibu> i get the message   waiting for invitation    and they just sit there after that
[06:32] <DanaG> Well, I didn't see asoundconf.
[06:32] <abhinay> how to make it play the mp3 files on mouse over ?
[06:32] <DaveLibu> if i type a key    i am dumped from talk
[06:32] <DanaG> Why couldn't they have it say "alsaconf has been depecrated.  Use asoundconf instead"?
[06:33] <willys_fueguino> hmmm.... gives me the "xserver error while loading"... this could help: (WW) VESA: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
[06:33] <neoth> gekko nothing... even with the mouse plugged in
[06:33] <DanaG> That doesn't seem like too much to ask.
[06:33] <crimsun> DanaG: That would have been inaccurate; they serve different purposes completely.
[06:33] <DanaG> Okay, well, at least say something to point to the existence of asoundconf.
[06:33] <DanaG> I had no clue.
[06:34] <griffiti93> how do I access the network's nickname registration service?
[06:34] <crimsun> DanaG: System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card   /uses/ asoundconf. You shouldn't have to know of its existence /period/.
[06:34] <gekko`> neoth: show me the output of 'dmseg' again
[06:34] <sovi3t> willys_fueguino, hmmmm, in a console type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE) and see if anything comes up
[06:35] <aujordanh> everyone have a good experience with beagle?
[06:35] <circasurvive> okay i got ndiswrappers uninstall, and modprobed bcm43xx, and in iwconfig there are no ethX
[06:35] <gekko`> neoth: after you had rebooted with the mouse
[06:35] <farous> circasurvive: did you use the fwcutter for the firmware
[06:35] <DanaG> It should be under "administration" because it's a system thing, not a gnome thing.  Or something like that.
[06:35] <circasurvive> farous: what? i ran the alternative script on the site
[06:35] <DanaG> And I'm using KDE.
[06:35] <Tixer> cansomeonehelpmewithdualbooting?
[06:35] <noom> hell
[06:35] <aujordanh> shouldn't ethX be eth1 or eth2?
[06:36] <Tixer> andyes,I'mlackingaspacebar
[06:36] <sovi3t> circasurvive, so what does iwconfig output
[06:36] <crimsun> DanaG: no, it shouldn't be under Administration at all, since it's a per-user preference thing.
[06:36] <willys_fueguino> sovi3t; i should configure the modem first, otherwise ill be booting every 10 minutes
[06:36] <AAA> Tixer  .com?
[06:36] <farous> circasurvive: do not know what does that script do
[06:36] <Tixer> .comwhat?
[06:36] <willys_fueguino> sovi3t; modem can be configured from bash?
[06:36] <neoth> gekko http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/daphreak/dmesg2
[06:36] <aujordanh> Tixer, use underscore
[06:36] <crimsun> DanaG: it does not by any means touch /etc/asound.conf. It only adjusts ~/.asoundrc* if it can.
[06:36] <circasurvive> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-b3e888974e3f23d9367ca6f2f32edcb3764613a5
[06:36] <DanaG> Oh.  Well, I had no idea that that was an alsa setting rather than an esound thing.
[06:36] <circasurvive> downlaods the firmware
[06:36] <Tixer> I'll use alt 32
[06:37] <sovi3t> willys_fueguino, i cant really help you with the modem thing
[06:37] <damnation> umm, hey again guys, still havent fixed my problem.. now, where i'm stuck is installing ndiswrapper, i type as per the instructions "make uninstall, make, make install" all are unknown commands, and i don't know where to go from there
[06:37] <crimsun> DanaG: asoundrc configuration files are very much preferences :)
[06:37] <UbuntuJulez> !Excel
[06:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about Excel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:37] <DanaG> aah, well, thank you.
[06:37] <sovi3t> damnation: you need to install gnu make
[06:37] <untung> Hi
[06:37] <Tixer> I keep getting errors in the partition manager
[06:37] <willys_fueguino> sovi3t, thanx anyway! ;-)
[06:37] <DanaG> Now hopefully I will be able to remove the Audigy2 on the fly.
[06:37] <sovi3t> willys_fueguino, np
[06:37] <damnation> sovi3t, then how would i install that? :<
[06:38] <sovi3t> damnation, synaptic
[06:38] <damnation> i have to fix my wifi to get on the internet
[06:38] <Tixer> anyone wanna PM me?
[06:38] <crimsun> DanaG: you'll have to restart the alsa app after you change the default card (each time).
[06:38] <sovi3t> damnation, and search for make
[06:38] <untung> what is the C++ dev tool for ubuntu?
[06:38] <Tixer> ca anyone help with partitioning?
[06:38] <damnation> i'm confused, sovi3t :<
[06:38] <farous> circasurvive: did you put the bcm and ieee modules in your /etc/moudles file by the way check if they are loaded using lsmod
[06:39] <Toma-> I need/would like to bind some keys to my mouse buttons for use in games. eg. bind the X key to mouse 5 and so on. any ideas?
[06:39] <crimsun> DanaG: the only exception is if the audio app uses gconf, in which case changes to the gconfaudiosink take effect immediately.
[06:39] <sovi3t> damnation, you are on ubuntu right
[06:39] <damnation> yes i am :)
[06:39] <circasurvive> farous: no i didnt could you PM me?
[06:39] <damnation> i searched for make and had 1000's of results on descriptions about .. a lot, i didnt know how to narrow the searches down
[06:39] <sovi3t> damnation, synaptic is ubuntus' package manager
[06:39] <farous> circasurvive: no pm in main room you have better chance to get good answer
[06:39] <damnation> i know sovi3t :)
[06:39] <circasurvive> okay
[06:40] <sovi3t> damnation, lol so search for make using synaptic
[06:40] <farous> circasurvive: just lsmod |grep bcm
[06:40] <circasurvive> what am i looking for in lsmod?
[06:40] <farous> see if is loaded
[06:40] <damnation> i just can't install cause i have to fix my wifi, in order to fix my wifi i have to load ndiswrapper, i cannot install ndiswrapper cause my make command is unknown..
[06:40] <circasurvive> yeah it is
[06:40] <gekko`> neoth: I end up with my knowledge
[06:40] <sovi3t> damnation: oh
[06:40] <neoth> gekko uh oh lol
[06:41] <farous> circasurvive: goto /lib/firmware/ dir and see if it is empty or are there files there
[06:41] <circasurvive> farous: yeah a craoload of bcm stuff
[06:41] <sovi3t> damnation: but there should be a copy of ndiswrapper it on your ubuntu cd that you could install instead of doing it from source
[06:42] <circasurvive> like fifteen firmwares
[06:42] <damnation> i'll check
[06:42] <farous> circasurvive: ok
[06:42] <[ath0s] > hi
[06:42] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[06:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:42] <DShepherd> hey.. what's with the ubuntu newsletter? issue 8 has been finished yet? anyone know why?
[06:42] <circasurvive> farous: mhm..
[06:42] <DShepherd> s/has/hasnt/
[06:42] <Dana1> oopsie, I guess I have to "safely remove hardware"
[06:42] <[ath0s] > i'm trying to boot with the live cd, and is not working. can someone help?
[06:42] <farous> circasurvive: can not find the alternative script you referred to by the way
[06:43] <circasurvive> go to that website
[06:43] <circasurvive> go to 1.2.2.1
[06:43] <circasurvive> and look at the last code on that section
[06:43] <farous> i am searching there eversince you gave me the link
[06:43] <circasurvive> sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[06:43] <circasurvive> that;s the cide
[06:43] <circasurvive> code*
[06:43] <farous> circasurvive: ah ok
[06:44] <damnation> sovi3t: ndiswrapper-utils_1.8-0ubuntu2_i386.deb would this be it?
[06:44] <mistform> where does Aircrack go to?
[06:44] <sovi3t> damnation, probably
[06:44] <neoth> gekko what did you decide?
[06:44] <Tixer> um, aujordanh?
[06:44] <damnation> ok
[06:44] <damnation> ..
[06:44] <DaveLibu> tixer: what are your partitioning problems?
[06:44] <sovi3t> damnation, and you can still use synaptic to install it ;)
[06:44] <Tixer> I'm trying to dual boot
 when I click on install, I go through the usual stuff, till it asks where it wants to put it
 I have a 320gig drive, and just want a tiny ubuntu partition, so when I click to do it automatically...
 I go to resize the drive, and it either tells me I don't have enough room for the installation when creating a 30 gig partition, or, when I use the default, it freezes
 why's it doing that?
[06:44] <DShepherd> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:45] <Tixer> c/ped from PM
[06:45] <DShepherd> please dont paste
[06:45] <damnation> sovi3t: and get it off the CD?
[06:45] <Tixer> fine
[06:45] <damnation> how do i do that?
[06:45] <gekko`> neoth: I don't know how to help you further
[06:45] <farous> circasurvive: it might be the incorrect driver for your card. try using the manual method with the fwcutter to get the proper firmware
[06:45] <sovi3t> damnation, yep, just make sure that the cd is listed in the sources
[06:45] <damnation> OH dammit
[06:45] <damnation> thankyou
[06:45] <damnation> im off
[06:46] <circasurvive> farous: i have to go...maybe luck tomorrow...thanks for the help ..peace
[06:46] <damnation> hopefully back in linux
[06:46] <damnation> thanks sovi3t :<
[06:46] <Dana1> Oh..kay.  I did set-default-card, but it didn't change it.
[06:46] <DaveLibu> tixer: what is the default partition?
[06:46] <sovi3t> damnation, lol np
[06:46] <neoth> gekko thanks anyway... you helped me longer that i expected. your awesome. ill just try again tomorrow...
[06:46] <farous> circasurvive: i would try first system > Administration > networking too
[06:46] <Tixer> default is wxp entirely
[06:46] <farous> circasurvive: good luck and peace :)
[06:46] <circasurvive> its not in there
[06:46] <circasurvive> thanks night
[06:47] <gekko`> neoth: no problem, though I couldn't solve your problem
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> anyone in here have any advice on getting a Broadcom internal wireless NIC up and running?  I had it working for a few hours one day, but when I restarted the computer it wasn't working anymore....
[06:47] <DaveLibu> tixer: i wonder when you tried to specify 30 gig  if there was an error and it was reading it as less
[06:48] <DaveLibu> tixer:  i remember some partition managers i had   i had to specify beginnning and end cylinder #'s
[06:48] <sovi3t> Geoffrey2, you probably need to reload the modules that you loaded earlier
[06:49] <Gixbit> Seems like the archive and security server are working this time of night
[06:49] <Tixer> possibly
[06:49] <Tixer> though it failed with kubuntu and ubuntu
[06:49] <DaveLibu> tixer:   i am not that much past newbie in linux   but i have installed dual boots   i would think you would want to keep trying to make a small partition
[06:49] <DaveLibu> 30 gig should be enough
[06:50] <Gixbit> i use about 25gigs for ubuntu
[06:50] <DaveLibu> my main installation is a 15 gig debian
[06:50] <Tixer> at this point, I don't care how big it is
[06:50] <Gixbit> debian is huge
[06:50] <Tixer> I'd prefer smaller, but if it works...
[06:50] <Gixbit> 14 discs
[06:50] <cowmilk2> how can i tell whether my usb ports are version 1 or version 2?
[06:50] <Gixbit> 2 dvd's
[06:50] <clever> ive recently upgraded to ubuntu dapper and now my pcmcia network card isnt working
[06:50] <DaveLibu> well   you could always try a bit more  60 gig or something
[06:50] <Gixbit> anyway
[06:50] <Gixbit> !ati
[06:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:51] <Tixer> or use automatix
[06:51] <sovi3t> clever, what type of card
[06:51] <clever> 3com lan card
[06:51] <clever> pcmcia
[06:51] <clever> for 10base-t and coax
[06:51] <clever> it was working normaly on breezy badger
[06:52] <kimchi330> hi i was wondering if someone could give me some help... i tried installing easyubuntu, but it gave me the error message "Could not apply changes. Fix broken packages first." does anyone know a solution to this problem??
[06:52] <arnducky> That's -a-some-a-SPICY KIMCHI!
[06:52] <sovi3t> clever, you'll probably need to reinstall the drivers
[06:52] <clever> how?
[06:52] <Tixer> anyways,does anyone have any reccomendations?
[06:52] <clever> last time it worked right away without any need to install drivers
[06:53] <arnducky> kimchi330, try sudo dpkg --fix-missing
[06:53] <Gixbit> is the ati link that the ubotu gives the absolute best for my ati drivers? or is there a better version else where?
[06:53] <kimchi330> okay thanks
[06:53] <arnducky> HAWTE!!!
[06:53] <kimchi330> lol
[06:53] <sovi3t> clever: hmm
[06:54] <sovi3t> clever, what does sudo iwconfig give you
[06:54] <anonymeeee> anyone know how to reset your password in cups?
[06:54] <thinh> i think i messed up my synamtic
[06:55] <clever> do you mean ifconfig sovi3t ?
[06:55] <UbuntuJulez> !gconf
[06:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about gconf - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:55] <Angela> hello all! I just instaled XGL in ubuntu64... where are all the cool effect settings? TIA :)
[06:55] <UbuntuJulez> how does one run GCONF?
[06:55] <sovi3t> clever, negative
[06:55] <BrianG> gconf-editor
[06:55] <clever> bash: iwconfig: command not found
[06:55] <Tixer> so. anyone have a solution to partitioning?
[06:55] <thinh> when i do apt-get update it says sub-process gzip returned an error code(1)
[06:56] <thinh> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:56] <thinh> it halts
[06:56] <UbuntuJulez> how do i add a trash icon on the desktop?
[06:56] <sovi3t> clever, is it wifi or eth
[06:56] <clever> eth
[06:56] <clever> wired
[06:56] <clever> 10mbit max
[06:56] <sovi3t> clever, oh
[06:56] <thinh> some index files failed to download, they have been ignored
[06:57] <clever> used to use it on a 50mhz laptop
[06:57] <clever> thats how old it is:P
[06:57] <Gixbit> Is it just me or is Kubuntu alot more glitchy than Ubuntu???
[06:57] <sovi3t> clever, lol
[06:57] <DShepherd> nixternal: ping
[06:57] <PrimoTurbo> how do u list all the processes?
[06:57] <thinh> a
[06:57] <sovi3t> clever, anyways you could try running sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[06:57] <Angela> PrimoTurbo:  type top in the console
[06:57] <UbuntuJulez> anyone?
[06:58] <clever> eth0 is allready up
[06:58] <PrimoTurbo> thnx
[06:58] <clever> eth0 is the laptop's internal card
[06:58] <Angela> terminal I mean
[06:58] <clever> i currently have 2 network cards in the laptop
[06:58] <sovi3t> clever, have you tried sudo dhcpcd eth0 yet
[06:58] <clever> and eth1 is showing no sign of existing
[06:58] <tanlaan> this may not be the best place to ask, but does anyone know where i can find a list/a place to download programs that are only text based and run on minimal systems such as 67mhz cpu and 4mb ram? Maybe a place that has "ancient" software that was made for computers that were in the times that you seriously only had 4mb of ram at max.
[06:58] <clever> eth0 works fine on dhcp
[06:58] <DrBanzai> What utility/script/program would I use to copy a data dvd from disc to disc?
[06:58] <clever> eth1 doesnt appear to exist
[06:58] <DShepherd> PrimoTurbo: ps aux .. that shoulld work too
[06:59] <UbuntuJulez> !add trash to desktop
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about add trash to desktop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <Gixbit> wowwwwwwwwww, ubuntu is prettyyyyyy
[06:59] <Gixbit> Kubuntu is uglyyy =p
[06:59] <tanlaan> if this isnt a great place to ask, could anyone point me in the direction of a place that would be able to help me?
[06:59] <Angela> brb
[07:00] <clever> sovi3t, network-admin only shows 1 eth when i know i have 2 in the pc
[07:00] <anonymeeee> I reallllly need some cups help
[07:00] <anonymeeee> there's no one in that channel
[07:00] <skullripper> Gixbit, you'reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sooooooooooooooo RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[07:02] <sovi3t> clever, does it show up in lspci
[07:02] <clever> sovi3t, theres a network plug on the left of the laptop and 1 on the right, the right one has a netcable and it working fine, the left isnt showing any sign of existing
[07:02] <clever> checking
[07:03] <DrBanzai> tanlaan, Try here: http://www.eunet.bg/simtel.net/msdos.html
[07:03] <clever> nope
[07:03] <clever> but i get this in xconsole
[07:03] <clever> a pair of msgs about a pcmcia card being inserted/removed
[07:03] <clever> when i insert/remove the card
[07:04] <sovi3t> clever, have you checked dmesg yet
[07:04] <clever> [17181003.164000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[07:04] <clever> [17181017.712000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[07:04] <clever> thats about all im getting there
[07:05] <tanlaan> DrBanzai: isnt that for msdos? i was hoping for linux
[07:05] <sovi3t> clever, strange
[07:05] <lumgwada> hey  I've just upgraded the distro and am happy to discover metacity windows are snapping next to each other with slow mouse movements... is there a way to increase the sensitivity?
[07:05] <clever> yeah
[07:05] <l33txp> Guys..... I am trying to install the latest release of Ubuntu.... For some reason it doesn't like my video card or something... After install I get a distorted image... almost like my video card has died.... what's going on?? I just can't use Linux???
[07:06] <ryantrip> hey how do i add packages.ubuntu.com to my repository list? is it already there?
[07:06] <minerale> Hi, could someone help me understand this, After running the latest updateds, the "GRUB" list was messed up, I now have two entries for ubuntu, two for ubuntu recovery, one for memtest, and the grub entry for Windows Xp is gone
[07:06] <DrBanzai> tanlaan, Yeah, that's all for MS-DOS, they have an amazing collection.  As far as for linux, I'm not sure...You'd have to dig up a really old version, like RedHat 4.0 or something
[07:06] <Tixer> anyone have a solution to dualboot, or to use ubuntu without leaving windows?
[07:07] <sovi3t> minerale, you could just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put windows back in there
[07:07] <DrBanzai> What utility/script/program would I use to copy a data dvd from disc to disc?
[07:07] <steveO_> Got Ubuntu up and working.  Any issues with doing apt-get update, upgrade, and then a dist-upgrade I should be aware of?
[07:08] <Geoffrey2> oh happy days, the internal nic lives again :)
[07:08] <minerale> sovi3t: I'm doing that, but I'd like to know why that happened
[07:08] <l33txp> to install ubuntu... what ISO do I download????? LoL.....
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> anyone else missing a 'restart' or 'shutdown' option at the login screen?
[07:09] <sovi3t> minerale, no clue ;)
[07:10] <clever> brb kernel upgraded
[07:10] <techrush> hi
[07:10] <sovi3t> clever, i dont really know what to tell you except that the nic is messed up and the message is coming from the pcmcia bridge detecting the connection
[07:10] <clever> and it might fix my network card at the same time:)
[07:10] <ryantrip> how do i ad packages.ubuntu.com to me repository?
[07:10] <sovi3t> Geoffrey2, good to hear
[07:11] <clever> i'll test the card in a second pc while the linux reboots:)
[07:11] <macgeek> why does my SSH connection to my Ubuntu box keep dropping?
[07:11] <rixth> Why does w32codecs not work anymore? It only plays SOME wmv files (none are drm'd), doesn't play mov either
[07:12] <Pablo> what does it mean when I am trying to compile madwifi and I get enable wireless extensitions
[07:12] <rixth> (using totem)
[07:13] <commctrl> rixth, use the new gstreamer-0.10-* modules, i haven't found a video yet that I can't play
[07:13] <rixth> commctrl, you still need w32codecs though?
[07:14] <commctrl> rixth, not that i'm aware of
[07:14] <rixth> Oh wow.
[07:14] <ryantrip> how do I add packages.ubuntu.com to my repository?
[07:14] <DaveLibu> tixer:  i am back   sorry i got called away from computer
[07:14] <Madpilot> ryanakca, you don't, exactly - the repos are at a different address
[07:14] <DrBanzai> What utility/script/program would I use to copy a data dvd from disc to disc?
[07:15] <Gixbit> what does this mean "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $path"
[07:15] <DaveLibu> anyway   a long time ago i tried installing redhat  and the graphical partition managaer i had was screwing up the partitioning   and preventing the install
[07:15] <Phenax> Gixbit: It means you don't have a C compiler in your $PATH variable
[07:15] <DaveLibu> what i ended up doing   was going to a text mode she;ll   in the install program
[07:16] <Gixbit> phenax: so how does one fix that?
[07:16] <Phenax> Gixbit: Meaning most likely you don't have a C compiler
[07:16] <Phenax> Gixbit: get build-essentials or w/e
[07:16] <DaveLibu> and using the basic utility for partitioning
[07:16] <DaveLibu> fdisk
[07:16] <Gixbit> phenax: so does this have to do with that fact that i'm live disk?
[07:16] <DaveLibu> well  i think i actually used cfdisk   which is a curses front end to fdisk
[07:16] <zzyber> Can someone tip me of where to find a good suitable software to use in Ubuntu for translation, mainly i want English-Swedish but also chinese
[07:17] <DaveLibu> i manually told it the partitions i wanted
[07:17] <Gixbit> as long as it's because i don't have a c compiler i'm good
[07:17] <DaveLibu> then i went back to the graphical installer   and just accepted the prev partitions i had just made
[07:17] <ryantrip> how do I add packages.ubuntu.com to my repository?
[07:17] <DaveLibu> and that worked
[07:18] <dario314> I just installed Ubuntu, but I get "GRUB Hard Disk Error." Any ideas?
[07:18] <Tixer> does ubuntu have a text installer?
[07:18] <dario314> Yes it does.
[07:18] <move> yes
[07:18] <LogicalDash> I'm playing a WMV file in VLC and keep on getting the sound, but no video. I have gstreamer 0.10. What's wrong?
[07:18] <move> it's the "alternate" cd on the ubuntu download page
[07:18] <DaveLibu> tixer:   are you trying to dual boot with windows?
[07:18] <DrBanzai> What utility/script/program would I use to copy a data dvd from disc to disc?
[07:18] <DaveLibu> Tixer:  i dont know
[07:18] <zzyber> also it would be grate if someone can guide me in how to change the default language in Gaim because when i write english in Gaim the speller mark everything red because my default system language is Swedish
[07:19] <Madpilot> zzyber, you can turn off spellchecking in GAIM, that might be the easiest solution
[07:19] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   i wonder if you could get into a livecd ubuntu session   and install to hard drive from there
[07:19] <DaveLibu> Tixer:  or is that what you have been trying already?
[07:20] <zzyber> Madpilot: i like the idea to have spellchecking but if i could change it to english........
[07:20] <unstablesob> /exit
[07:20] <Madpilot> zzyber, I don't use gaim much, but have a look around it's Preferences
[07:20] <dario314> My problem's got to be pretty simple. I mean "GRUB Hard Disk Error" is all I've got to work with.
[07:21] <Pablo> can anyone help with this error I get while trying to compile madwifi
[07:21] <Pablo> Checking kernel configuration... FAILED
[07:21] <Pablo> Please enable wireless extensions.
[07:21] <DaveLibu> i have installed   redhat  suse and debian     and been around when my friend installed   sls and slackware on my computer
[07:21] <sovi3t> question, is there a way to pipe output from one vt to another
[07:21] <Gixbit> swap file system is "linux-swap" right?
[07:21] <Softy> does anyone know of a videocard ram tester for linux?, to check weather your vram is fault?
[07:21] <DaveLibu> i have used livecd's   ubuntu knoppix  and  linux4astro  or something
[07:21] <zzyber> Madpilot: i found information, its not possible without changing the default system language..........so i will turn spelling off
[07:22] <dario314> I have /boot (1Gb) /swap (1Gb) and / (38GB)
[07:22] <DaveLibu> but i have never installed anything to harddrive from a livecd
[07:22] <Madpilot> zzyber, I was afraid that would be the case - so many apps just use the system settings for language
[07:22] <Madpilot> DaveLibu, the new LiveCD installer is pretty solid
[07:22] <dario314> I've gotten this error with Puppy Linux also, GRUB just wont load.
[07:23] <DaveLibu> madpilot:   so you get into a live ubuntu session   and from there launch an install to harddrive?
[07:23] <Madpilot> DaveLibu, on the LiveCD desktop, there's an icon labelled "Install", which does exactly what it suggests
[07:24] <DaveLibu> ok  Tixer:    is that what you have been trying?
[07:24] <isede> is there a way to use ATI usb TV on ubuntu?
[07:24] <Tixer> Iam
[07:25] <Tixer> whoops
[07:25] <Gixbit> Ok, so the swap partition used for linux is primary and atleast 2 gigs of space and the filesystem is linux-swap? Sounds right?
[07:25] <Tixer>  I've tried installing from a livecd
[07:25] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   i just noticed in the emnu in my live ubuntu   i have gparted
[07:25] <Softy> swap drive is normally double the amount your ram is
[07:25] <Gixbit> eh that's 4gigs then.
[07:25] <Gixbit> but is the rest good?
[07:25] <DaveLibu> that is under   Applications :  System tools
[07:26] <Madpilot> Tixer & DaveLibu the livecd installer can handle partitioning on it's own
[07:26] <Gixbit> primary and filesystem linux-swap?
[07:26] <Tixer> well,have gparted
 swap drive is normally double the amount your ram is
 eh that's 4gigs then.
[07:26] <Tixer> whoops
[07:26] <Madpilot> Gixbit, if you've got 2Gb RAM, you don't really need swap, IMO
[07:26] <Tixer> well, it didnt
[07:26] <Gixbit> yes
[07:26] <Gixbit> But i'm partitioning it now
[07:26] <dario314> I have 0.064Gb of RAM
[07:26] <DaveLibu> Madpilot:   Tixer has been trying to install ubuntu  and been running into problems about partitioning
[07:27] <Tixer> it failed for me
[07:27] <Gixbit> i was wondering if it HAS to be Logical or primary?
[07:27] <Gixbit> and the filesystem is linux-swap?
[07:27] <Tixer> and I can't d/l the alternative cd
[07:27] <Madpilot> DaveLibu, ah, OK - not cool
[07:27] <Tixer> DSl
[07:27] <Tixer> ...
[07:27] <Tixer> dsl is out, have to use dialup
[07:27] <Tixer> all I have are the 35 cd's I ordered :P
[07:27] <Softy> are three any videoram testers for linux?
[07:27] <DaveLibu> he tried to specifiy 30 gig   it said was too small    he accepted the default   which was the entire  320 gig drive  and it stalled
[07:28] <Tixer> default is resizing ntfs, using free area for ubuntu'
[07:28] <dario314> What's the smallest bootable CD image with a partitioner?
[07:28] <Ackeubu_> behover jag ejecta usbdrives?
[07:28] <DaveLibu> ahhh
[07:28] <Gixbit> So if i make the swap partition primary and the filesystem = linux-swap. That's ok?
[07:28] <DaveLibu> apaperently that is sort of tricky   resizing  ntfs
[07:29] <silentread> dario314, have you looked at gparted?
[07:29] <Madpilot> Gixbit, should be
[07:29] <DaveLibu> hey   did you defrag?
[07:29] <Tixer> me?
[07:29] <Madpilot> Tixer, for NTFS, it's supposed to help if you defrag first
[07:29] <Gixbit> madpilot: that's the kind of answer i needed ;)
[07:29] <Tixer> kk
[07:29] <Tixer> though that might take awhile....
[07:29] <DaveLibu> ya   appaerently you defrag inside windows    it puts all your data to thetop of the parttion
[07:29] <Gixbit> madpilot: do i need to make a boot partition or just an ext3 partition?
[07:30] <dario314> Just curious if there is a live CD image with a partitioner that's like a few Mb.
[07:30] <DaveLibu> before defrag   the data can be scatttered all over the partition
[07:30] <Tixer> would it help if I manually partitioned with Partition Magic?
[07:30] <DaveLibu> and then you try to resize and it is screwed up
[07:30] <mistform> anyone use Aircrack
[07:30] <Madpilot> dario314, apparently there's a gparted livecd
[07:30] <dario314> Oh that's good to know.
[07:30] <Madpilot> Tixer, defrag first, then try again
[07:30] <Tixer> kk
[07:31] <dario314> What about just "GRUB Hard Disk Error." ?
[07:31] <Softy> doesnt dsl have qpart?
[07:31] <dario314> Yeah but DSL is still about 50Mb, tough on dial-up.
[07:31] <DaveLibu> so i came to this channell   writing how i was having trouble getting talk to work
[07:31] <Bonez> hi what is a good RSS reader for gnome (for news headlines?)
[07:31] <Softy> better than 80gig for partition magic
[07:31] <DaveLibu> i think i just figured something out
[07:31] <Tixer> defragmenter is fucked
[07:32] <Softy> 80meg*
[07:32] <LogicalDash> I've downloaded gstreamer 0.10 and the base and good plugins, but there's still this wmv video that will only play its sound. What's up?
[07:32] <Tixer> keeps saying chkdsk is scheduled, has for the past like, 2months
[07:32] <Bonez> Tixer: i broke my fat32 partition with parted :( now i'm doing a dosfsck to try and fix it. gparted is a piece of crap as well, it refused to resize a simple fat32 partition
[07:32] <DaveLibu> Tixer:  whats the problem with the defrag
[07:33] <Softy> LogicalDash, try downloading and isntall automatix
[07:33] <LogicalDash> Softy, thanks
[07:33] <Softy> that fixed the same problem i had with windows codecs
[07:33] <Tixer> I've had a problem ever since having to ghost windows
[07:34] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   i suppose you could always backup your windows data   and trying to start fresh   and reinstall windows and retore your data
[07:34] <Tixer> too much to back up
[07:34] <LogicalDash> Softy, it's not showing up in Synaptic right now, what repository is it in?
[07:34] <Gixbit> should i put a /boot on the primary partition i'll be using in my installation of ubuntu??
[07:34] <Softy> hold up i'll check for you
[07:34] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   so your defrag in windows wont work?
[07:34] <Tixer> is there some way to run a text installer from the normal cd?
[07:34] <Tixer> yeah
[07:35] <witless> any recommendations for buying a used laptop that will run ubuntu dapper?
[07:35] <mistform> Dell Latitude D600
[07:35] <mistform> I am running it right now
[07:35] <Tixer> I also get a message on boot saying that autochk is fucked
[07:35] <mistform> it's decent, took a while to get wireless workin
[07:35] <Softy> LogicalDash, deb http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt breezy main
[07:35] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   but text or graphical install    either way it is going to have to deal with the problem of how to resize that ntfs partitiojn
[07:35] <Tixer> yeah, but I can hope
[07:36] <Madpilot> LogicalDash, automatix is a good way to break your Ubuntu install. Avoid it.
[07:36] <CVirus> how come KPlayer isnt in the repos. ?!?!
[07:36] <Madpilot> LogicalDash, some wmv is DRM'd, it simply won't play
[07:36] <witless> mistform: thanks
[07:36] <LogicalDash> Madpilot, it plays the audio track in VLC...
[07:36] <Softy> Madpilot, i never had a problem with automatix
[07:37] <Tixer> me neither
[07:37] <Madpilot> Softy, lucky you
[07:37] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   so right now you have a single ntfs partition filling the entire   320 gig drive?
[07:37] <Tixer> yep
[07:37] <mistform> I knew a guy in here with an Inspirion notebook, too
[07:37] <Tixer> filled with 200 gigs of anime and TV
[07:37] <Tixer> :P
[07:37] <mistform> my dell is worth around $500 right now
[07:38] <Gixbit> When i use the GUI to install ubuntu does it install GRUB boot loader on the primary partion for ubuntu?
[07:38] <dario314> I can't boot anything. I get "GRUB Hard Drive Error," no matter what I do.
[07:38] <Tixer> it should
[07:38] <Gixbit> because it DIDNT with kubuntu
[07:38] <Gixbit> and yes i know !shout
[07:39] <Tsuki> It did with mine
[07:39] <Gixbit> it messed up on me last time
[07:39] <Gixbit> let's try again...
[07:39] <Tsuki> I formatted and put XP on my primary, then partitioned for Ubuntu and it installed Grub
[07:39] <Gixbit> that's what i have...
[07:39] <Gixbit> let's hope it does the same
[07:39] <Gixbit> kubuntu is HORRIBLE
[07:39] <Gixbit> glitchy like nothing you've seen
[07:39] <Bonez> why is it that when I run gdesklets nothing happens?
[07:40] <mistform> witless, do you know alot about laptops and hardware?
[07:40] <Tixer> I do
[07:40] <Tsuki> =( I just wish I could find out how to turn on my cpu throttling, my laptop gets a lot hotter than with XP
[07:40] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   maybe your error message was saying it didnt have enough space to make the 30 gig partition?
[07:40] <witless> mistform: not particularly laptops
[07:40] <Tixer> it does
[07:40] <Tixer> from windows:
[07:40] <Gixbit> there's error's on one of my HDD's...
[07:40] <Gixbit> fix that later..
[07:40] <Tixer> free space 88.7 gigs
[07:41] <DaveLibu> Tixer:  so thats probably it   your 200 gig of data is spread aroubnd the 320 gig of space
[07:41] <Gixbit> for some reason when i log on windows xp it says i have 9 gigs left on one of my harddrives.. but on linux it says 25gigs...
[07:41] <Gixbit> what is it?
[07:41] <Tixer> ah
[07:41] <DaveLibu> the partitioner needs to specify the end of the 1st partition   with  all the data  located before that end
[07:41] <Gixbit> next thing it'll be 0gigs
[07:42] <Gixbit> and ill be pondering what to do
[07:42] <dario314> Here's a general question. When you have an old BIOS that only sees 8GB of a disk. Is that the "begining," or "end," of the disk? I assumed beginning but...
[07:42] <Gixbit> here's the deal
[07:42] <Gixbit> my motherboard is supporting 64bit
[07:42] <Gixbit> and i'm on 64bit live cd
[07:42] <Geoffrey3> are we having network problems tonight, or is it something on my end?
[07:42] <Gixbit> installing ubuntu while on irc
[07:43] <DaveLibu> Tixer:   now that i understand better that you are resizing existing ntfs   with new partition at end   what again was the default setting?
[07:43] <Gixbit> i doubt my BIOS is old
[07:43] <mistform> witless: what exactly are you looking for?
[07:43] <Gixbit> or obsolete
[07:43] <cool_nick> how can i clear logs of the previous commands that are seen in the terminal when we press the up arrow key. . ?
[07:44] <mistform> clear?
[07:44] <mistform> type "clear" into the terminal
[07:44] <mistform> then try and press the UP arrow
[07:44] <FunnyHat> Anyone had this problem with 6.06?  I have a RAID IDE card and two hard drives on it, and a hard drive on the m/b   I install to the m/b hard drive and it doesn't seem to put grub anywhere
[07:44] <mistform> nope, idfk
[07:44] <DaveLibu> anyway    my own problem was talk not working in ubuntu
[07:44] <FunnyHat> lawl
[07:45] <DaveLibu> i read somewhere that talk runs off   inetd
[07:45] <DaveLibu> i got talk working in my other debian computer
[07:46] <bigbill52a> how do i change my maximum resolution in gnome?
[07:46] <DaveLibu> i checked the   inetd.conf file in both computers   both have an identical entry for talk
[07:46] <cool_nick> mistform: i want the previous commands to be cleared. suppose i open a new terminal and press the up key, i get a command executed in the previous session. i want to eliminate that. . .
[07:46] <FunnyHat> bigbill52a, you will have to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <FunnyHat> bigbill52a, in console that is
[07:46] <Ackeubu_> could i install the gentoo portage on my ubuntu debian?
[07:46] <bigbill52a> thanks..i knew it was something like that..lol
[07:46] <rhb> i'm having some problems getting a usb flash drive working. it used to work on this machine, but doesn't show up anymore. the drive works just fine on other machines
[07:46] <DaveLibu> but my debian system  where talk works    has inetd running in   ps -C inetd
[07:47] <DaveLibu> and my ubuntu system doesnt
[07:47] <bll3r87> hello everyone
[07:47] <Ackeubu_> rhb, i have the same issue, i start gnome control panel and go to removable drives. then my usb just shows up
[07:47] <DaveLibu> so i probably just need to get  inetd running
[07:48] <rhb> ackeubu_ - the removable drives and media preferences?
[07:50] <willys_fueguino> I have a simple question: to use a pen drive i have to configure something?
[07:50] <FunnyHat> willys_fueguino, shouldn't have to, just plug it in and use it
[07:50] <spiral777> I just accidently unpartitioned my wife's xp drive while reinstalling dapper, is there any way I can get it back?
[07:51] <willys_fueguino> funkyHat how can i move to a certain dir?
[07:51] <rhb> spiral777, try repartitioning it at the same block boundaries as before
[07:52] <FunnyHat> willys_fueguino, cd /path/to/dir
[07:52] <spiral777> rhb> I've kind of gotten in over my head here, any more details?
[07:53] <willys_fueguino> funkyHat thank u
[07:53] <Geoffrey3> apparently I need to make a change in grub, replacing acpi=off with pci=nommconf...to fix a problem with my optical mouse sporadically cutting out...what file would I be making these changes to?
[07:54] <sehsomaru> hello
[07:54] <shiloh> need help...i just installed Ubuntu...and it suggested to use a non-root user..But what is the root password for Ubuntu?
[07:54] <tanlaan>  anyone know a place to find applications that run in bash?
[07:54] <sehsomaru> this question must have been asked many times today - When will the forum be up ?
[07:55] <rhb> spiral777, when you removed the winxp partition, did you change any other partitions?
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> shiloh, your password for default user = root password.  use it by putting sudo before commands
[07:55] <Gixbit> let the games begin
[07:56] <spiral777> rhb> No, I caught it right after I did that, so haven't doen anything else
[07:56] <bll3r87> tanlaan just search google for bash shell scripts
[07:56] <rhb> spiral777, so you did not create or delete any partitions in the physical space before or after the winxp partition?
[07:56] <shiloh> FunnyLookinHat, when i type su -, i could not know what the root password is. What is the root password?
[07:56] <dankmiser> would anyone know why my firefox, which I have installed the updates, isn't updating, still reads 1.5.0.4 instead of 1.5.0.6
[07:56] <tanlaan> bll3r87: ok ill do that
[07:57] <sehsomaru> shiloh ,that password is your password - the one you logged in with
[07:57] <spiral777> No, its showing as 114gb of unpartitioned space... my wife is going to kill me!
[07:57] <shiloh> sehsomaru, not it is not...
[07:57] <Gixbit> here we go starting to shutdown now
[07:57] <rhb> spiral777, have you formatted or written anything to the space where the winxp partition was?
[07:57] <shiloh> Ubuntu cannot root???
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> shiloh, root password is your default user password, whatever psasword you set when installing ubuntu is root password.
[07:58] <spiral777> rhb> Not a thing
[07:58] <sehsomaru> shiloh what happens if you put that password in?
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> shiloh, su is not used in ubuntu
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> !sudo
[07:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:58] <Madpilot> shiloh, there is no root pw - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> shiloh, it's technically "safer" but can also be inconvenient
[07:58] <shiloh> okey...so how can i log into Ubuntu as root??
[07:58] <sehsomaru> people, is there an irc channel for edubuntu?
[07:58] <rhb> spiral777, then create a new partition in the space the winxp partition was and make it of the same type the winxp partition was before. vfat or ntfs. do /not/ format or do anything else. reboot and cross your fingers
[07:59] <bimberi> sehsomaru: #edubuntu
[07:59] <sehsomaru> bimberi - thanks
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> shiloh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> shiloh, that will asist you
[07:59] <Madpilot> shiloh, you don't need to, but if you really want to, see the URL you've been given
[08:01] <shiloh> Thanks guys...
[08:01] <minerale> When opening programs, ubuntu by default has an 'effect' wheras the 'border' of the window quickly expands from the icon to the actual window... can that 'effect' be turned off ?
[08:02] <shiloh> Guys,...does anybody know if where can i find chat forums about Bluetooth?
[08:02] <rhb> my sandisk usb flashdrive is no longer working on my primary computer under either windows or ubuntu. it used to work just fine several updates ago. it works perfectly under other windows and ubuntu machines and has also been reformated. can anyone help me get it working again on my primary machine?
[08:05] <Gixbit> Why does ubuntu give me "Missing operating system"
[08:05] <Gixbit> when i try to boot to it
[08:05] <highvolt1ge> Gixbit: that sounds more like your BIOS firmware that's telling you that :)
[08:06] <skp> Gixbit he he no OS can give Missing OS
[08:06] <Gixbit> how do i fix it
[08:06] <highvolt1ge> is this a new installation, or was it working fine before?
[08:06] <Gixbit> new
[08:06] <Gixbit> just installed
[08:06] <abhinay> i hv 40110-gaim_dapper_theme.tar.gz gaim theme , how to install it ?
[08:07] <skp> gixbit only Ubuntu or u had windows too
[08:07] <highvolt1ge> did you get any errors while installing GRUB?
[08:07] <Gixbit> had windows too
[08:07] <highvolt1ge> and does this machine have more than one hard disk installed?
[08:07] <skp> abhinay untar and place it in .gaim/themes
[08:07] <shiloh> What do i need to do in Ubuntu so that i can play a DVD movie???
[08:07] <Gixbit> it didnt say grub was installed
[08:07] <Gixbit> i assumed it would install it
[08:07] <Gixbit> but it never
[08:07] <Gixbit> again
[08:07] <skp> shiloh read ubuntuguide.org
[08:07] <abhinay> there is no folder named theme in ~/.gaim/   ??
[08:08] <highvolt1ge> you might have to boot from the cd again and either choose rescue mode to manually install grub, or start the installation from scratch (if it didn't complete)
[08:08] <Gixbit> highvolt1ge: this computer has 3 hdd's
[08:08] <highvolt1ge> Gixbit: perhaps you're booting from the wrong device?
[08:08] <highvolt1ge> Gixbit: ubuntu usually installs GRUB on the first bios device it finds
[08:08] <Gixbit> highvolt1ge: i set the active partition to the ext3 linux partition
[08:09] <highvolt1ge> i don't think grub cares too much about active partitions, i think that's a dos thing
[08:09] <Tsuki> did you have a Windows partition?
[08:09] <Gixbit> highvolt1ge: so how would i go about manually installing grub?
[08:09] <highvolt1ge> you just need grub installed to the MBr
[08:10] <highvolt1ge> Gixbit: i'm a bit fussy on this, but i think you can just choose rescue mode from the cd, then chroot to your installation
[08:10] <highvolt1ge> Gixbit: then type grub-install /dev/hda (or your boot device)
[08:10] <highvolt1ge> your windows, etc. shoudl still be fine
[08:11] <Gixbit> highvolt1ge: so what do i do i'm in the cd-rom menu
[08:12] <Gixbit> highvolt1ge: i dont see a rescue mode
[08:13] <Gixbit> highvoltage: i dont see a rescue mode at all
[08:13] <Evil_Ed`> Hi
[08:13] <shiloh> hi...it cannot play DVD..it hanged...anything wrong?
[08:14] <skp> shiloh u installed the stuff as mentioned on ubunuguide.org ??
[08:14] <shiloh> yea
[08:14] <highvoltage> Gixbit: sorry, I suggest you hang around a bit, I don't have a CD to test with atm, perhaps someone else will catch up with backlog and give you a shout
[08:14] <Gixbit> ...
[08:14] <skp> shiloh u using totem to play it ??
[08:15] <Gixbit> yea next version there should be a CHOICE
[08:15] <shiloh> yea
[08:15] <Gixbit> to install GRUB in the MBR
[08:15] <bigbill52a> how would i reconfigure my fonts...?
[08:15] <Gixbit> So people don't have to mess about
[08:15] <Evil_Ed`> no
[08:15] <kameron_> i'm having an error when using make
[08:15] <skp> shiloh I dont use totem much ... lets c if someone else can help
[08:15] <shiloh> pls..
[08:15] <kameron_> here's the copy of the terminal session
[08:15] <kameron_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19667
[08:17] <Gixbit> highvoltage: So if i install the bootloader in the device that i'm going to load linux off of in the MBR than grub will be there no matter what even if i do this over live cd?
[08:19] <tkup> anyone using an IBM T30 with dapper? How's suspend to disk working? I'm currently on breezy and hesitant in updating...
[08:19] <Gixbit> sweet
[08:19] <Gixbit> i guess i'll reinstall
[08:19] <Gixbit> again...
[08:19] <Gixbit> 4th time
[08:21] <Gixbit> Nobody really said i needed to make a /boot partition too?
[08:21] <Gixbit> anybody know how to install grub around here?
[08:21] <Flannel> Gixbit: er, you don't.
[08:21] <Tsuki> I have /boot and / on the same partition
[08:21] <Gixbit> so that works?
[08:21] <Gixbit> grub goes in /boot?
[08:21] <Tsuki> Grub should automatically install on the MBR
[08:22] <Gixbit> It doesnt...
[08:22] <Gixbit> APPARENTLY
[08:22] <Gixbit> making life harder for noobs everywhere
[08:23] <cowmilk2> so how do i put podcasts into ipod via gtkpod app?
[08:23] <Tsuki> I've been using Linux for all of a week or two
[08:23] <Gixbit> oh i've used linux before
[08:23] <Tsuki> I'm as much as a noob as anyone else
[08:23] <Gixbit> fedora core 1-3 slackware suse debian
[08:23] <Gixbit> NEVER have i had this much trouble
[08:24] <porges> evenin'
[08:24] <Tsuki> is your Windows partition on hda0?
[08:24] <Gixbit> sda1
[08:24] <Gixbit> or 0
[08:24] <Gixbit> or whatever
[08:25] <Gixbit> i'll know in about 1minute
[08:25] <Gixbit> because i have to install fglrx just to get into ubuntu gui
[08:25] <Gixbit> each time i start live cd
[08:26] <Gixbit> Well now i'm in the GUI!
[08:27] <DaveLibu> if i want inetd running in ubuntu   what package should i install?
[08:27] <sanmarcos> why do I get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. when I do apt-get upgrade, as for example linux-image-server has an updated version, (dapper-security) and apt upgrade doesnt automatically show me that?
[08:28] <aujordanh> i dont get sound in flash with firefox, any suggestions?
[08:28] <DaveLibu> i found 3 likely candidates:   inetutils-inetd  netkit-inetd  xinetd
[08:29] <dankmiser> would anyone know why my firefox, which I have installed the updates, isn't updating, still reads 1.5.0.4 instead of 1.5.0.6
[08:29] <DaveLibu> sanmarcos:   did you do  apt-get update    recently?
[08:29] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, obviously, else policy wouldnt show me the updates
[08:29] <dankmiser> err 1.5.05
[08:29] <Ademan> this is kind of off topic, but does anyone know how to administer a quake 4 dedicated server?
[08:29] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, inetutils-inetd btw
[08:30] <DaveLibu> sanmarcos:    ok  so i install  that   and that will get me a running inetd?
[08:31] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, I'd recommend xinetd
[08:31] <DaveLibu> the reason i am asking about   inetd   i installed  talk talkd  but i havent gotten talk to work yet
[08:31] <DaveLibu> sanmarcos:   ok i will try xinetd
[08:32] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, help.ubuntu.com -> Servers
[08:32] <Gixbit> now i have to reinstall again
[08:33] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, inetd is netkit-inetd apparently
[08:34] <damnation> I HAVE LIFTOFF
[08:34] <damnation> finally on linux wifi :)
[08:34] <SurfnKid> congrats
[08:34] <damnation> thankyou AAA and the rest!
[08:34] <SurfnKid> whats a good x25 program
[08:39] <scrumpy> yo
[08:39] <scrumpy> i'm having enormous trouble trying to set up my geforce2 go
[08:40] <sanmarcos> really?
[08:40] <Trav1sty> using NVidia drivers?
[08:40] <scrumpy> yes tried the latest plus the legacy ones
[08:41] <sanmarcos> tell me about it, my card isnt supported by nvidia anymore, I have a debian box hosed because of that
[08:41] <scrumpy> just boots to a blank screen
[08:41] <DaveLibu> thanks sanmarcos    after what you just said i insatlled  netkit-inetd    and sure enough  that gave me an inetd process   and then i tried talk   and it is suddenly working
[08:41] <sanmarcos> I suggest checking the #nvidia channel
[08:41] <Gixbit> When i try to install grub it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[08:41] <Feral_Kid> I am having a problem getting nm-applet to work correctly. I am using a wireless card that is loaded by ndiswrapper, and when I take a look at the nm-applet, it says no network devices were found...
[08:41] <silentread> davelibu, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper try method 4
[08:42] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, xinetd is supposed to be "next-generation" but I am no expert, check /etc/inetd.conf
[08:42] <silentread> opps, wrong person
[08:42] <Trav1sty> Scrumpy..... Is your X config correct?
[08:42] <silentread> scrumpy, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper did u try method 4?
[08:42] <Trav1sty> I had to manually change mine after installing the NVidia drivers
[08:42] <scrumpy> changed to nvidia?
[08:42] <tuna> a rather dumb question: since ubuntu has no root user, how can I move files to root-owned directories in the gui?
[08:43] <scrumpy> yes didi that
[08:43] <DaveLibu> sanmarcos:   yes i saw that from apt-cache show   looked like  xinetd was the new things    but i had just installed talk and talkd   and they had set up  /etc/inetd for talk   so i played it safe
[08:43] <Gixbit> When i try to install grub it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[08:43] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, unix philosophy :)
[08:44] <DaveLibu> :-)
[08:44] <scrumpy> do you mean method 3
[08:44] <scrumpy> i've tried that
[08:45] <lars> Does Open Office run on the 64bit version of Ubunto 6.0.6?
[08:45] <silentread> lars, yes
[08:45] <lars> it never get's past the "splash" screen for me
[08:46] <Gixbit> When i try to install grub it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[08:46] <lars> hmm...
[08:46] <sanmarcos> solved my issues, needed apt pinning
[08:46] <silentread> lars, did u install java?
[08:46] <DaveLibu> wow   i have my computers on the same router   but i am new to networking    i found i could ping between them
[08:46] <lars> dunno.. just ran through the defualt installl.
[08:47] <lars> i'll check for Java in the morning .. (compy is at work right now)
[08:47] <lars> is Java not installed by defualt?
[08:47] <DaveLibu> my next test was to try talk between them     and until sanmarcos' help i couldnt get talk working locally on this one computer
[08:47] <Gixbit> Does anybody know why when i try to install grub it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[08:47] <Trav1sty> none of those steps worked for me either
[08:47] <DaveLibu> so i just got talk running between the computers
[08:47] <silentread> lars, a special version is, i dont think java is the problem though...hmm
[08:47] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, try ping -b to your broadcast address
[08:47] <willys_fueguino> someone to help me with my pendrive?
[08:48] <DaveLibu> sanmarcos:  ok
[08:48] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, never tried talk, is it any good?
[08:48] <Gixbit> Does anybody know why when i try to install grub it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[08:48] <cowmilk2> is not gpodder available in the repositiories?
[08:48] <DaveLibu> sanmarcos:   it is primitive    i just figured it is so simple it would be easy to set up
[08:49] <lars> silentread, no worries.. i'm just glad to know this IRC channel is here. I'll ask again when I have the computer in front of me.
[08:49] <silentread> lars, k
[08:49] <DaveLibu> you do talk from a shell    :    talk user@host
[08:49] <willys_fueguino> someone to help me with my pendrive?
[08:49] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, like wall
[08:49] <sanmarcos> !tell willys_fueguino about ask
[08:49] <DaveLibu> your screen redraws to blank    with a dividing line
[08:49] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, it does interrupt your work
[08:49] <DaveLibu> well   sort of like wall    but more 2 dimensional
[08:49] <cowmilk2> to those with ipods, what program do you use to get podcasts into your ipod?
[08:49] <Gixbit> Does anybody know why when i try to install GRUB it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[08:50] <DaveLibu> your target gets a message   talk request:   type   talk yourname@yourhost
[08:50] <damnation> i'm getting an alert from add/ remove programs  saying that any application i click "application" is not available in any software channel, what does that mean?
[08:50] <sanmarcos> Gixbit, do not repeat your question, if nobody knows, bad luck. go check google
[08:50] <willys_fueguino> sanmarcos, ubuntu detects my pendrive, but i dont know how to browse it
[08:50] <DaveLibu> if he does that   he gets a screen looking like your
[08:50] <Gixbit> sanmarcos: well this is not that hard
[08:51] <DaveLibu> you type    and your writing appears on 1/2 the screen
[08:51] <Gixbit> sanmarcos: all i'm trying to do is install grub but it gives me that error
[08:51] <sanmarcos> willys_fueguino, I am sure the ubuntu desktop guide has a chapter on that help.ubuntu.com, or even in your desktop, open the help and search for what you need
[08:51] <DaveLibu> also on 1/2 the others screen
[08:51] <DaveLibu> and his writing does the same    on his screen and yours
[08:51] <DaveLibu> but you see each letter as it is typed
[08:51] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, nice, I will try it, I like the concept
[08:51] <DaveLibu> if he makes a typo and backspaces   you see the type and the backspacing
[08:51] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, yeah I used to do screen multisessions for that
[08:52] <DaveLibu> ya    and the 2 can be typing at the same time
[08:52] <DaveLibu> that was before irc
[08:52] <DaveLibu> old unix utility
[08:52] <DaveLibu> i thought it would be nontr5ivial   i would know it is working   but so simple
[08:53] <kameron> kameron_: wtf..
[08:53] <DaveLibu> like if i want my X program on 1 computer to open a window on another computer   i am sure thats much trickier to set up
[08:54] <damnation> i'm getting an alert from add/ remove programs  saying that any application i click "application" is not available in any software channel, what does that mean?
[08:54] <Armadillio> Hey uhm... Anyone got a USB camera and are willing to help me out?
[08:54] <sishgupta> was there a kernel update or was that just headers?
[08:54] <sanmarcos> DaveLibu, no not really, I mean to implement, it can be done easily
[08:55] <mheath[laptop] > kameron: Freenode has long timeout rates. What that means is, kameron_ is probably an old copy of your connection that Freenode tsill hasn't figured out is disconnected.
[08:55] <Armadillio> I just want a program...
[08:55] <DaveLibu> i hafta give authorizations or something?
[08:55] <sanmarcos> Armadillio, ask your question properly
[08:55] <sanmarcos> kameron, /nickserv ghost
[08:55] <damnation> guys, im getting an error with add/remove programs
[08:56] <damnation> saying that anything i click might not support my system architecture
[08:56] <Armadillio> OK. So I have this old USB camera... I think my comp can recodnize it's drivers. Anyway, is there a program that shows a live stream of what the camera sees, when connected to the computer, and can take snapshots?
[08:56] <damnation> how can i fix this? im using normal x86 32bit ubuntu
[08:56] <Matt4781581> hello I am having a problem with firefox, can anyone help?
[08:56] <Gixbit> well thanks guys
[08:56] <sanmarcos> Armadillio, if your camera supports it, which I seriously doubt
[08:56] <DaveLibu> Matt:   maybe   i use firefox
[08:57] <Gixbit> if i manage to get this working by myself
[08:57] <dankmiser> I need some help getting firefox updated to 1.5.05, I installed the update from the update manager, yet firefox is still showing 1.5.0.4
[08:57] <Gixbit> whoop de doo
[08:57] <mheath[laptop] > Armadillio, ask a more specific question about your problem, and see if anyones available to help. Don't ask permission to ask@
[08:57] <Matt4781581> go to the site www.hell.co.nz (to order pizza) and click on dunedin, Firefox crashes
[08:57] <Armadillio> That was pretty much the question... Is there a program that can show a live stream of my USB camera and take snapshots for me to save on my hard drive?
[08:57] <Geoffrey3> dankmiser, just a thought, you did restart Firefox after the update installed, right?
[08:58] <mheath[laptop] > Gixbit, Feel free to repeat your question _occasionally_ to see if anoyne knew can help. sanmarcos was just concered, because when you repeated it only a few lines of text had scrolled by and there really wasn't any reason to repeat yet.
[08:58] <mheath[laptop] > *if anyone new can help
[08:58] <Gixbit> i gave up
[08:58] <DaveLibu> Matt:  i will try that site on my firefox...
[08:58] <Matt4781581> cool
[08:58] <dankmiser> rebooted the box after the linux update tonight
[08:58] <sanmarcos> Gixbit, IRC is like that, especially the #ubuntu community which is very geared towards newbies
[08:58] <Gixbit> because i got it working
[08:58] <Gixbit> MYSELF!
[08:58] <Gixbit> cant believe i made it work
[08:59] <Gixbit> guess i'm not braindead after all
[08:59] <dankmiser> geoffrey3, rebooted the box after the linux update tonight
[08:59] <harisund> you know sanmarcos, ubuntu is perhaps the ultimate newbie friendly forum/irc channel I have seen...
[08:59] <kameron> mheath[laptop] : no, it's not. he was talking a whole bunch, definitely was not me.
[08:59] <azzurri> any one active
[08:59] <Gixbit> oh?
[08:59] <azzurri> i really need some help :(
[08:59] <Gixbit> so simply helping somebody out
[08:59] <sanmarcos> harisund, obviously yes, but when you ask questions of a more advanced nature, you are stuck in a low signal-to-noise ratio, as in not many experts around here
[08:59] <Matt4781581> have you had any success davelibu?
[08:59] <Gixbit> with grub is too hard
[09:00] <Gixbit> hmmmmmmmm
[09:00] <Gixbit> the most noob question
[09:00] <azzurri> will some one please help me..
[09:00] <mheath[laptop] > kameron: You might want to contact a freenode operator then. Do me a favor and let me know how that works out, though; I have a similar problem in that someone has registered 'mheath_'.
[09:00] <sanmarcos> harisund, now if there was a way for me to get paid, sure I would answer and provide extensive help..
[09:00] <bahadir> goodmorning guys
[09:00] <Armadillio> Is there a program that shows a live stream of what the camera sees, when connected to the computer, and can take snapshots?
[09:00] <kameron> mheath[laptop] : thank you, will do.
[09:00] <mheath[laptop] > kameron: I don't know if you'll have any luck, though. I'm not sure if the freenode nickname policy says that nick_ belongs to nick.
[09:00] <harisund> sanmarcos you are right .. that is perhaps what frustrates a couple of people .. they are not exactly 'newbies' .. they have a specific problem that requires a specific solution ..
[09:00] <sanmarcos> Armadillio, apt-cache search might help
[09:00] <damnation> 14:55:48) damnation: guys, im getting an error with add/remove programs
[09:00] <damnation> (14:56:01) damnation: saying that anything i click might not support my system architecture
[09:00] <bahadir> #postfix is sleeping, may I ask a question here instead ?
[09:00] <bahadir> related to postfix
[09:00] <sanmarcos> bahadir, yes
[09:01] <DaveLibu> Matt:   i dont have flash installed
[09:01] <bahadir> sanmarcos : we turned on our new mail server today
[09:01] <azzurri> im installing ubuntu after i install it goes to the plain black screen with log in i type in user name and password and some more txt comes up and it stays on the same back screen how do i fix
[09:01] <DaveLibu> so i just got an opening screen saying that
[09:01] <bahadir> but when someone sending mail to me@mydomain.com
[09:01] <Geoffrey3> dankmiser, did you check in the package manager to see what version IT was reporting?
[09:01] <sanmarcos> azzurri, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:01] <bahadir> sender is rejected saying "relay access denied"
[09:01] <sanmarcos> azzurri, its not broken, that is just linux
[09:02] <sanmarcos> azzurri, ubuntu should start gdm by default though (graphics that is), if not try kdm, xdm, or just startx
[09:02] <harisund> azzurri do you know what you installed? As in, was it regular Ubuntu desktop, or perhaps a server?
[09:02] <bahadir> it is not possible to insert millions of IPs into main.cf
[09:02] <azzurri> i pm'ed you man :)
[09:02] <sanmarcos> bahadir, yes, check main.cf
[09:02] <azzurri> can you talk in that box
[09:02] <Armadillio> How is apt-cache going to help? I've done it and it just shows NOTHING that has to do with a USB camera.
[09:02] <Matt4781581> dam u need flash installed
[09:02] <sanmarcos> bahadir, post your main.cf in a pastebin
[09:02] <harisund> azzurri whom did you pm?
[09:02] <bahadir> sanmarcos : sorry but how may I do that
[09:03] <bahadir> bit new to linux, sorry
[09:03] <DaveLibu> matt:   do you have flash installed?
[09:03] <azzurri> sammarcos
[09:03] <Matt4781581> yep
[09:03] <mheath[laptop] > Armadillio, the command "apt-cache search" followed by a keyword is a tool to search for programs related to a particular keyword.
[09:03] <sanmarcos> Armadillio, apt-cache search camera. Its else that or keep repeating your question until Israel lets Palestine become a state
[09:03] <bahadir> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:03] <sanmarcos> bahadir, www.pastebin.com
[09:03] <sanmarcos> yeah
[09:03] <Gixbit> Hopefully this is the last time i have to install my graphics chipset
[09:03] <mheath[laptop] > Armadillio, for example, running "apt-cache search webcam" might provide some relative programs.
[09:03] <damnation> anyone know why add/remove programs keeps telling me with any application i try to install, that i get an error saying it may not support my architecture
[09:03] <sanmarcos> Gixbit, for nvidia, the driver you mean?
[09:03] <Gixbit> Because of lack of help and trial and error of my own accord...
[09:03] <Armadillio> OK, I am searching 'camera'...
[09:04] <Matt4781581> does anyone have firefox with the flash plugin installed?
[09:04] <DaveLibu> Matt:   so maybe its just something screwed up about their webpage
[09:04] <Matt4781581> no works on windows firefox
[09:04] <azzurri> after i type sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm start" will it load in graphics mode always?
[09:04] <Gixbit> i have ATI chipset X800
[09:04] <azzurri> sorry for the questions i am noob :(\
[09:04] <azzurri> gixbit i have ati x800gt chipset :>
[09:04] <Gixbit> azzurri: i know what you mean...
[09:04] <dankmiser> I need some help getting firefox updated to 1.5.05, I installed the update from the update manager, yet firefox is still showing 1.5.0.4
[09:05] <Gixbit> azzurri: you have to ask questions to get help but for some reason people never help with something too simple
[09:05] <lumgwada> Is it possible to upgrade a server running sarge to dapper just by modifying the sources.list or will that cause chaos?
[09:05] <azzurri> gixbit: i pm you now
[09:05] <azzurri> look man :)
[09:05] <dazvid> Whats a good program to monitor memory leaks?
[09:05] <mheath[laptop] > Gixbit, Please don't complain about the lack of help in this room. If you want guaranteed support you can complain about, sign up for one of the support plans Ubuntu offers. This room is volunteer ran; it is very early in the morning in the areas that most people here are from, and the majority of people here are looking for help on their own issues too.
[09:05] <Matt4781581> lumgwada, why would you want to do that?
[09:06] <messju> hi. I'm fetching mail with fetchmail and want to process it via procmail, but it seems procmail is not used at all. any ideas how to enable it?
[09:06] <Matt4781581> sarge is a better server IMO
[09:06] <dazvid> I remember one something like memprof, but its not called that :)
[09:06] <Gixbit> azzurri: btw i have ATI X800XL 256mb GDDR3 all-in-wonders PCI-E
[09:06] <sanmarcos> messju, ill help you
[09:06] <GEEKMAN> hey can someone help, i wanto try and get php5 and mysql5 working together on different boxes
[09:06] <azzurri> all i want to know is after i install it when i type my username and passwsord then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" will it always log in in graphics mode
[09:07] <lumgwada> just finding a dev server I'm running missing a number of packages I need ...
[09:07] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, It will cause chaos. Ubuntu uses different package naming conventions, and relies on certain packages that a package-by-package upgrade of sarge packages will not grab.
[09:07] <Gixbit> mheath: it's a good thing i eventually figured this out on my own
[09:07] <Gixbit> mheath: i saved everyone the trouble
[09:07] <azzurri> Gixbit: Mine is only Sapphire X800GT 256 DDR3 PCI-E
[09:07] <sanmarcos> messju, put this in your .fetchmailrc
[09:07] <Gixbit> azzurri: good card
[09:07] <Gixbit> azzurri: what is it your having trouble with?
[09:07] <mheath[laptop] > Gixbit, Please stop complaining about the support in this channel. I do not care if you are doing it in a passive-aggressive manner; just please stop.
[09:07] <messju> sanmarcos: i just copied fetchmailrc and procmailrc from a sarge-installation an expected it to work
[09:08] <Gixbit> azzurri: i'm still new to this whole ubuntu thing
[09:08] <Gixbit> mheath: i stopped FYI
[09:08] <DaveLibu> a short while ago   20 minutes or something   i installed emacs to this ubuntu    i invoked it from a shell and its ok    but it didnt show up in my gnome menus
[09:08] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, however, there is a tutorial in the wiki on converting a woody system to a ubuntu system. It is outdated, but it may provide some help.
[09:08] <damnation> anyone know why add/remove programs keeps telling me with any application i try to install, that i get an error saying it may not support my architecture
[09:08] <azzurri> sammarcos: look i sent you a secret msg, please reply
[09:08] <sanmarcos> messju, and wants mda "/usr/bin/procmail -t -d %s"
[09:09] <sanmarcos> azzurri, you need to register in this network to seend private messages
[09:09] <lumgwada> mheath[laptop] : many thanks I assumed someone may have needed to do it sometime....
[09:09] <nemlah> Hello all.
[09:09] <bucketfan99> hiya
[09:09] <Gixbit> azzurri: that's freenode for you /msg nickserv register (password)
[09:09] <bucketfan99> what's the ubunut equiv of chkconfig ?
[09:09] <nemlah> I am having problems with ubuntus memory usage
[09:09] <bucketfan99> i want to chnage some init stuff
[09:09] <messju> sanmarcos: ah, I'll try...
[09:09] <bucketfan99> without using RM and LS
[09:09] <nemlah> can someone tell me if it is normal?
[09:09] <Gixbit> azzurri: =)
[09:09] <Armadillio> It looks like a found a program wish me good luck
[09:10] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, I'd really just recommend backing up your data and installing ubuntu.
[09:10] <Kaushik> hello
[09:10] <nemlah> is there a know memory leak issue with ubuntu?
[09:10] <nemlah> gnome?
[09:11] <Kaushik> anybody with info about pcapture in ubuntu
[09:11] <cowmilk2> why can't i find gpodder in repo?
[09:11] <damnation> anyone know much about add/remove programs?
[09:11] <cowmilk2> !gpodder
[09:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about gpodder - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:11] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, however.....take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WartyUpgradeNotes
[09:11] <azzurri> ok well let me go inish installing ubuntu 6.06 and ill be back if i have problems, Gixbit & Sanmarcos thanks so much really do appreciate it
[09:11] <cowmilk2> !info gpodder
[09:11] <ubotu> Package gpodder does not exist in dapper
[09:11] <Gixbit> azzurri: btw azzurri, everytime you connect to freenode /msg nickserv identify (password)
[09:11] <cowmilk2> !info ipodder
[09:11] <ubotu> ipodder: a podcast receiver. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.9-4 (dapper), package size 640 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[09:11] <azzurri> thanks gixbit ;)
[09:11] <Gixbit> azzurri: good luck hope you dont have to reinstall 4 times
[09:11] <cowmilk2> is it safe to get an app direct from a website, and not from repo?
[09:11] <Madpilot> nemlah, Linux will use as much memory as you've got, for caching if nothing else - it's better at memory managment than XP
[09:12] <iratsu> can anyone here comment on system 76 computers?
[09:12] <Gixbit> and i meant nothing by saying that
[09:12] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, if you make the changes to your group/user files that the tutorial outlines, add the _dapper_ (note that the tutorial covers WARTY) sources, install the "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop" metapackages, install a kernel, then do a system wide upgrade, youo MIGHT be ok.
[09:12] <Gixbit> just stating
[09:12] <lumgwada> mheath[laptop] : thanks, I did intend to do that I was just curious :)
[09:13] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, though you're almost guaranteed to run into conflicts or dependency resolution problems.
[09:13] <damnation> can anyone help me and shed some light on why add/ remove programs keeps telling me that whatever i try to install OR uninstall from add/ remove programs. and thus wont let me AT ALL
[09:13] <nemlah> Madpilot: but why does the memory usage increase when nothing is done.. yesterday i restarted with 1GB ram used
[09:13] <Tsuki> hey guys, I'm having a little problem with my laptop generating a little more heat than it does in XP
[09:13] <Armadillio> damnation: I am secret messaging you trying to help
[09:13] <GEEKMAN> anyone know how i can get the mysql module to work on a box that has mysql 5 on one box and php5 on another?
[09:13] <Madpilot> nemlah, which apps do you commonly run? gnome itself doesn't seem to leak, but some apps do
[09:14] <nemlah> gaim
[09:14] <Gixbit> xinit isn't powerful enough...
[09:14] <damnation> sorry Armadillio
[09:14] <nemlah> and the monitor panel
[09:14] <damnation> i dont seem to be getting the msg's
[09:14] <nemlah> that all i think
[09:14] <Armadillio> Oh well. You say you are in the Add/Remove thing, right?
[09:14] <mheath[laptop] > Tsuki, What kind of laptop is it?
[09:15] <damnation> yeah :)
[09:15] <mheath[laptop] > Armadillio, you have to have your nickname registered here on freenode to send private messages.
[09:15] <dankmiser> can anyone help me updating firefox to 1.5.0.5 or better? the update from package manager is not taking effect?
[09:15] <lumgwada> mheath[laptop] : yeah and It's all over the simplest of .so's ... I'll probably end up fooling around with dpkg .... anyhow it's beer o clock so I'l worry about it next week thanks...
[09:15] <mheath[laptop] > lumgwada, haha, have fun.
[09:16] <Tsuki> It's a Gateway. cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/ info brings up that I don't have throttling on
[09:16] <Armadillio> Get out of there and go to System -> Administraition -> Synaptic Package Manager . That installs the right packages for your comp and everything. Just make sure you opened your Repositories to Multiverse and Universe and stuff.
[09:16] <pwnny> http://z6.invisionfree.com/Best_Damn_Sports/index.php?act=idx
[09:16] <damnation> Armadillio: what if i want to use add/remove programs?
[09:16] <GEEKMAN> please?
[09:16] <damnation> =[
[09:16] <mheath[laptop] > Tsuki: Well, thats your problem. I wish I could provide more support, but I don't have any experiience with enabling CPU throttling
[09:17] <Armadillio> It's pretty much the same thing, except without pictures and stuff.
[09:17] <damnation> cause i like to read the summaries of what current available programs
[09:17] <cowmilk2> how do i know if i have abc.foo installed on my system
[09:17] <cowmilk2> ?
[09:17] <damnation> any idea how to fix though? :<
[09:17] <preston> @Anyone: Does anyone no how I can sort my desktop icons in Gnome by, for example, type or modification date?
[09:17] <Armadillio> There are summaries in there too.
[09:17] <damnation> oh? k
[09:17] <sanmarcos> cowmilk2, apt-cache policy package
[09:17] <damnation> so no idea how to fix tho?
[09:17] <sanmarcos> cowmilk2, dpkg -l
[09:17] <Armadillio> What are you fixing?
[09:17] <cowmilk2> sanmarcos: which one?
[09:18] <Tsuki> My CPU seems to scale fine, I see it sit at 600 MHz until I do something that needs it to use more. I've heard that KDE has the options to enable throtting in the power options, but I can't find anything in Gnome
[09:18] <damnation> the whole 'may not be supported by your system architecture'
[09:18] <sanmarcos> cowmilk2, whatever suits you best
[09:18] <damnation> error
[09:18] <damnation> i wanna remove it
[09:18] <damnation> i didnt get it in hoary
[09:18] <cowmilk2> sanmarcos: ok. ty
[09:18] <Armadillio> Yea, Synaptic takes care of that. I think. I can't think of anyone with a problem in it with any versoin of that kind that's come across my mind...
[09:19] <damnation> ohk =[
[09:19] <damnation> thanks though
[09:19] <Gixbit> what's a good c compiler?
[09:19] <Armadillio> It pretty much knows the architecture. Try installing a package and see if the error comes up again...
[09:19] <Gixbit> anything i can get through apt-get?
[09:19] <porges> Gixbit: gcc?
[09:20] <skp> gixbit gcc 3.4 u can get through apt-get
[09:20] <GEEKMAN> apt-get install build-essential
[09:20] <damnation> Armadillio: : i don't seem to see blender at all
[09:20] <damnation> :<
[09:20] <skp> gixbit but try getting 3.2
[09:20] <Armadillio> ...Blender?
[09:20] <damnation> yeah
[09:20] <damnation> that 3d modelling software
[09:20] <preston> Who's a Gnome guru here?
[09:20] <Armadillio> Did you open the Repositories?
[09:21] <sanmarcos> I wish the multiverse/universe guys would follow the Ubuntu init message standards ...
[09:21] <Gixbit> gcc4.0
[09:21] <damnation> Armadillio: which one is it under?
[09:22] <Tsuki> Also, I was a super newbie when I installed Ubuntu and didn't have my two FAT32 partitions mounted. Everytime I link the drives to a folder they lose that connection when I restart. Is there a way to make that permanent?
[09:22] <porges> Tsuki: /etc/fstab
[09:22] <sanmarcos> hahaha, nice bug #1 on ubuntu :)
[09:22] <Armadillio> OK, here's what ya do. Go to System -> Administration -> Software Properties. Tell me when your there. If a message tells you another program has a lock then exit Synaptic and try the Properties again.
[09:22] <preston> No one here knows Gnome at all??
[09:22] <porges> preston: what are you trying to do
[09:22] <Armadillio> I'm using Gnome...
[09:23] <preston> porges: or Armadillio:  how I can sort my desktop icons in Gnome by, for example, type or modification date
[09:24] <GEEKMAN> can someone help?
[09:24] <damnation> i've done repositories Armadillio :)
[09:24] <Armadillio> You should have said something -_-
[09:24] <damnation> lol
[09:24] <damnation> the thing is
[09:24] <fullmetalashaman> hey, i am getting an error whenever i try to update ubuntu
[09:24] <damnation> i still don't see it :S
[09:24] <damnation> i'm reloading it again for the second time
[09:25] <Armadillio> Did you try apt-get in the terminal?
[09:25] <damnation> here's hoping :D
[09:25] <damnation> i don't want to resort to that
[09:25] <fullmetalashaman> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[09:25] <damnation> i've just installed a new system of ubuntu and watched to check the software out currently
[09:25] <damnation> so was looking through add/remove progs
[09:26] <GEEKMAN> ok now im just curious, can anyone actually see my posts?
[09:27] <preston> porges: you there?
[09:27] <porges> i'm trying to find it :)
[09:27] <GEEKMAN> ill wait for ages for help just not sure if im having problems with IRC...
[09:27] <preston> porges: thanks
[09:28] <Geoffrey3> one thing I've noticed about mplayer, every time you click on a video online to watch it, it opens up a new instance of mplayer, even if one is already open...is there any way to stop that from happening?
[09:29] <Gixbit> where is gaim installed on a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[09:29] <floppyears> hi is it possible to install ubuntu in the mac intels ?
[09:29] <bbrazil> Gixbit: dpkg -L gaim
[09:30] <porges> preston: I'm not sure it's possible. You could always go to /home/preston/Desktop ... but I can't seem to find a way to actually sort them ON the desktop (apart from by name)
[09:31] <nemlah> compiling enlightenment easily gets memory usage close to 1GB!
[09:31] <Gixbit> bbrazil: give's a bunch of places but i still dont know which is the main folder
[09:32] <messju> sanmarcos: it (fetchmail+procmail) works great, thanks!
[09:32] <preston> porges: I appreciate your effort :)   Sometimes I do that but was wanting to find a way specifically on the desktop...do you know if this can be done in KDE?  I'm a Gnome guy myself and don't have much/any experience with KDE
[09:32] <GEEKMAN> can someone help me with mysql5 and php5?
[09:32] <libuntu> hello
[09:33] <bbrazil> Gixbit: there's no such thing as a 'main folder' in a UNIX system (bar /opt, but that's really a solaris thing)
[09:33] <libuntu> someone using a dualhead gfx card or know's to handle it
[09:33] <GEEKMAN> theyre on seperate boxes and the mysql module isnt working in php
[09:34] <sanmarcos> messju, what was it?
[09:35] <porges> preston: I've never used KDE for any length of time
[09:35] <Gixbit> bbrazil: well i'm trying to install this plugin for gaim and i don't know where to put it
[09:35] <porges> if you could find where nautilus stores the configuration of the desktop you might be able to write a script to do it
[09:35] <bbrazil> Gixbit: in ~/.gaim maybe?
[09:36] <Rub3X``> can someone help me i have a gigabyte mobo GA-7N400 Pro2  and a DiamondMax Ultra series hdd and when i try and install ubuntu it freezes at the formatting part =(
[09:36] <preston> porges: I was tinkering with that thought earlier today...maybe I'll explore that idea further
[09:36] <Ghagge> need some help installing partimage, when running ./configure i get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[09:37] <ardchoille> !info partimage
[09:37] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[09:37] <preston> Ghagge: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:37] <peace-keeper> awww where are the times when linux was so much faster than windows
[09:37] <preston> Ghagge: after that, try again
[09:37] <porges> Gixbit: what is the plugin
[09:37] <ardchoille> Ghagge: partimage is in the universe repo. Is there a reason you are compiling it instead of getting it from the repos?
[09:37] <eilker> k
[09:37] <Ghagge> thanks preston, will try that
[09:38] <eilker> test
[09:38] <Ghagge> ardchoille, hmm, universe repo?
[09:38] <ardchoille> yes
[09:38] <preston> Ghagge: no problem, also, listen to ardchoille's advice above too before you try to compile it yourself
[09:38] <Ghagge> ardchoille, no idea what is meant by universe repo
[09:38] <preston> Ghagge: you must enable your universe repo
[09:38] <floppyears> will the ubuntu live cd boot in a mac intel ?
[09:39] <libuntu> i am using a matrox G450 and the two screens are working, but i am not able to change the resolution at one of it, the other works fine, i am using xorg
[09:39] <libuntu> thx for your help!
[09:39] <ardchoille> !repos > Ghagge
[09:40] <Ghagge> ardchoille, thanks, will have a look there
[09:40] <ardchoille> Ghagge: This should help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[09:40] <preston> Ghagge: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[09:42] <Madpilot> preston, there are official documents that are significantly better than ubuntuguide.org - please recommend those instead
[09:42] <willys_fueguino> how can i copy from ntfs to ext3??
[09:42] <willys_fueguino> cp?
[09:43] <Olathe> willys_fueguino : Yep.
[09:44] <preston> Madpilot: ok...but ubuntuguide is a fantastic resource, official or not
[09:44] <ShaunES> How do I tell apt-get to get data off the servers, and not ask for the CD?
[09:44] <willys_fueguino> thanx
[09:44] <Olathe> No problem.
[09:44] <libuntu> nobody could help me? ;)
[09:44] <Madpilot> preston, it might have gotten better, but it used to have a lot of fairly bad advice - and bad explanations - in it... help.ubuntu.com is better
[09:45] <ToHellWithGA> can i combine ShipIt orders?  i'd like to get one disc each of kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu and would imagine the shipping for one package with 3 discs would be cheaper than 3 with one each
[09:45] <Madpilot> ToHellWithGA, I thought they had combo packs available?
[09:45] <preston> Madpilot: agreed that help.ubuntu.com is very good...but I think the ubuntuguide has come a long way...check it out again sometime if you so desire : )
[09:45] <azzurri> need some help
[09:46] <messju> sanmarcos: it was the mda statement in fetchmailrc
[09:46] <azzurri> when i type /etc/init.d/gdm start after i log in it doesnt load the graphics desktop up
[09:46] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: AFAIK, those orders cannot be combined ATM
[09:46] <ardchoille> Madpilot: They used to, I think they discontinued that
[09:47] <azzurri> how do i load ubuntu in graphical mode whats the command
[09:47] <Madpilot> ardchoille, too bad - could have sworn I saw combos available when I ordered a pack of Ubuntu CDs a while ago
[09:47] <Gixbit> what does this mean "Checking for c compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:47] <dm> Hello. I just notices that on my ubuntu system (installed 8 weeks ago) I only have syslog.*.gz files for the last 7 days. /etc/logrotate.conf contains a line "weekly", and there's no syslog related file in /etc/logrotate.d/*. Where can I set the rotation mode for syslog?
[09:47] <ShaunES> How do I tell apt-get to get data off the servers? It keeps asking for the CD.
[09:47] <ardchoille> Madpilot: They did that for Breezy, I didn't see any way to do it with Dapper CD's
[09:47] <medfly> ShaunES, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:48] <Rub3X``> can someone help me i have a gigabyte mobo GA-7N400 Pro2  and a DiamondMax Ultra series hdd and when i try and install ubuntu it freezes at the formatting part =(
[09:48] <Madpilot> ShaunES, remove the CD from your sources
[09:48] <ShaunES> Ahh.
[09:48] <ShaunES> Thanks Mate.
[09:49] <syntaxx> i have problems in installing ubuntu after selecting the start ubuntu install and when loading kernel it does nothing
[09:49] <Gixbit> Any suggestions? "Checking for c compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[09:49] <medfly> Gixbit, can you write on that dir? :P
[09:49] <Madpilot> Gixbit, did you install build-essential?
[09:49] <Gixbit> not sure
[09:49] <medfly> i think he wouldve gotten a diff error then
[09:49] <Gixbit> to both questions
[09:49] <Gixbit> i used the sudo command
[09:50] <Gixbit> it's on the desktop and build-essential?
[09:50] <Gixbit> i got gcc from apt-get
[09:50] <Gixbit> that's about it
[09:50] <preston> Gixbit: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:50] <medfly> Gixbit, try getting build-essential
[09:50] <Madpilot> Gixbit, get build-essential, it installs gcc and all the other compiling stuff
[09:50] <Gixbit> and i get that error
[09:50] <Gixbit> ok
[09:50] <preston> Gixbit: then try again
[09:50] <ardchoille> Gixbit: Are you sure the app you are compiling isn't in the repos? What is the app?
[09:51] <syntaxx> i have problems in installing ubuntu after selecting the start ubuntu install and when loading kernel it does nothing. it goes to blank screen and have _ in it any help?
[09:51] <iKernel> Since Ubuntu ships with rather poor password secuirty, is there anyway to change the alogrithim that is used for the shadow file?
[09:51] <Luke> BenC: are you around?
[09:51] <Gixbit> ummm
[09:51] <Gixbit> it's a plugin for GAIM
[09:51] <Gixbit> allows me to talk to people on the XFire client
[09:51] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[09:52] <Madpilot> iKernel, what's poor about Ubuntu's password security? There was one bug w/ plaintext in Breezy, but that was fixed right away...
[09:52] <Luke> iKernel: it shouldnt matter. The file permissions should keep users away from the shadow file... the encryption is just an extra protection
[09:52] <ShaunES> How much stuff should ubuntu be putting into the swap disk?
[09:52] <syntaxx> ShaunES: swap will be double the size of your ram
[09:52] <Luke> ShaunES: depends on how much physical ram you have and how much your using
[09:52] <ShaunES> http://vcn-proxycheck.homeip.net/phpsysinfo/
[09:52] <Madpilot> ShaunES, as much as it can, if it's already used up your RAM
[09:52] <bahadir> hello again
[09:52] <Gixbit> ill be back
[09:52] <ShaunES> It's not using anything. Ahh, haven't filled ram yet.
[09:53] <Luke> yea
[09:53] <iKernel> Well with breezy, it's taken two minutes and six seconds for john the ripper to get to 76% of cracking the shadow file
[09:53] <bahadir> I got a problem with postfix main.cf
[09:53] <bahadir> I posted it to pastebin
[09:53] <ardchoille> iKernel: If normal users don't have access to that file, how are they going to crack it?
[09:54] <syntaxx> i have problems in installing ubuntu after selecting the start ubuntu install and when loading kernel it does nothing. it goes to blank screen and have _ in it any help?
[09:54] <Madpilot> iKernel, try it with Dapper; if it still seems weak, file a bug and take it up with the developers
[09:54] <iKernel> ardchoille, By hopping on windows and using ltools to read from the disk
[09:54] <Madpilot> syntaxx, did you run the "Check this CD for defects" util when you started the CD?
[09:54] <phrizer> Hi, i'm running hoary, 5.04, how can i update to dapper?
[09:55] <iKernel> What does LTS stand for?
[09:55] <BenC> Luke: yeah
[09:55] <ardchoille> Long Term Support
[09:55] <Madpilot> iKernel, Long Term Support
[09:55] <syntaxx> Madpilot: hmm i think so
[09:55] <iKernel> Madpilot, ah, nice
[09:55] <syntaxx> Madpilot: ill be back ill test it again
[09:56] <iKernel> phrizer, A question like that would normally result in your name with being asoicated with a mental illness called retardness, but since this is the Ubuntu support channel, wait for an answer. You may or may not get one.
[09:56] <peace-keeper> why ubuntu is 100 times slower than windows xp? :D
[09:57] <Madpilot> iKernel, it's a perfectly legit question. Be polite
[09:57] <crimsun> only 100? I say it's more than 1000 times slower... to crash.
[09:57] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell phrizer about upgrade
[09:58] <Gixbit> Guess who's on ubuntu
[09:58] <phrizer> iKernel, eh k, if you're not actually going to be helpful don't bother talking to me. I've found the answer anyway
[09:58] <ardchoille> YAY!
[09:58] <ardchoille> :)
[09:58] <Gixbit> And not an Window's XP laptop
[09:58] <phrizer> thanks though Madpilot
[09:58] <Madpilot> phrizer, did you see that PM from the bot?
[09:58] <iKernel> peace-keeper, Do you mean Gnome? Gnome does open windows marginally slower than Windows XP does, yes, but XFCE doesn't... so use XFCE
[09:59] <peace-keeper> eclipse takes about 4 times longer to start in ubuntu than in windows
[09:59] <phrizer> yes thanks Madpilot, i'd already *just* stumbled across that page on the wiki as i got the pm
[09:59] <Madpilot> phrizer, cool :)
[09:59] <phrizer> i previously came across a dapper upgrade page on the wiki that was empty.
[09:59] <steveO_> Anyone here use a Netgear router by chance AND use their Netgear's port triggering features?
[09:59] <peace-keeper> kay i try xfce
[09:59] <phrizer> so i figured one didnt exist, heh.
[10:00] <Madpilot> phrizer, do you remember the URL of the empty page? It can be redirected somewhere useful...
[10:00] <Gixbit> !ati
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <phrizer> so skipping versions isnt supported, bummer, guess i'll have to upgrade to 5.10 first.
[10:00] <Luke> BenC: I'm working on a bug with a kernel panic due to APIC failing on my macbook. Can you suggest any more ways to get debug information?
[10:00] <steveO_> gdb
[10:01] <iKernel> Luke, Isn't it APCI?
[10:01] <Luke> BenC: the kernel panic itself suggests booting with apic=debug but that doesnt output anything extra
[10:01] <iKernel> nope
[10:01] <peace-keeper> whats a good video player to try ?
[10:01] <Dimitrije> What is the shortcut for changing keyboard layouts?
[10:01] <Luke> iKernel: that is something different
[10:01] <iKernel> Luke, What kernel version?
[10:01] <Dimitrije> peace-keeper, mplayer!
[10:01] <iKernel> peace-keeper, Mplayer or xine
[10:01] <peace-keeper> thx :)
[10:01] <Luke> iKernel: https://launchpad.net/bugs/52553
[10:02] <ardchoille> peace-keeper: xine supports closed captions, if you need them.
[10:02] <peace-keeper> dont think so, all i want is play my porn :D
[10:02] <iKernel> Luke, just use .17
[10:03] <Luke> iKernel: that is not in dapper
[10:03] <iKernel> Luke, and there is something wrong with compiling the kernel yourself?
[10:03] <Luke> iKernel: also why do you think its fixed in later versions
[10:04] <iKernel> Luke, "It is fixed in 2.6.17" you said yourself
[10:04] <IRCMonkeyX> people i tried about 1 week for my usb adsl wan modem, re-compling kernel, configuring driver etc... i was dying.. now i bought new adsl modem, i just plugged it, ubuntu saw it :)))) so happy here
[10:04] <Luke> iKernel: read the next post...
[10:04] <peace-keeper> i dont understand that synaptic package manager... i want to uninstall the totem video player, and i'm told i have to uninstall 7 other packages too, including python
[10:04] <medfly> IRCMonkeyX, USB modems are horrible :-)
[10:04] <iKernel> Luke, "I'm having the same issue.."
[10:05] <Luke> iKernel: read bens post
[10:05] <Chousuke> peace-keeper: the packages may depend on each other.
[10:05] <IRCMonkeyX> medfly: even windows dont see this much easily modems, how ubuntu got without any configration ??
[10:05] <a_l_e> hello, i'm trying to set the hardware clock and all i get is the following error: "Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method."
[10:05] <guest_> 123
[10:06] <basvg> hi all ... after today's update it seems that I can no longer print. Whenever I print a file, the printer icon appears but when I click on it there's nothing in the queue... 'lpq' also shows up empty ... any thoughts ?
[10:06] <a_l_e> using "--debug" i also get to know that "hwclock: Open of /dev/rtc failed, errno=2: No such file or directory.".
[10:06] <peace-keeper> how can python depend on a stupid movie player ?
[10:06] <a_l_e> any idea how i can correct it?
[10:06] <Chousuke> peace-keeper: and if it's going to remove python, then it should be removing a lot more than 7 packages... Are you sure it's not just some totem-library for python
[10:06] <IRCMonkeyX> medfly:hey u dont know difficulties of downloading packages one by one from packages.ubuntu.com :D
[10:06] <bahadirt> hello guys
[10:06] <IRCMonkeyX> hi bahadir
[10:06] <bahadirt> I got problem activating ports 25 & 110 on real IP
[10:06] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, windows isn't the golden standard of programming, if you know what I mean :)
[10:06] <Luke> peace-keeper: you probably just have no other packages that depend on python and since you havent installed it explicitly, its removing it
[10:06] <bahadirt> but they are open in local IP
[10:07] <peace-keeper> well okay
[10:07] <Luke> peace-keeper: just remove the packages and if anything breaks, reinstall the ones to fix it
[10:07] <medfly> IRCMonkeyX, windows doesnt support all devices btw ;)
[10:07] <peace-keeper> and what's that "ubuntu-desktop" package ? that one seems to depend on everything
[10:07] <medfly> IRCMonkeyX, and yeah, i know the difficulties of that
[10:07] <Luke> peace-keeper: just keep a text file or something with all the packages it removed so you can easily access it
[10:07] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: i understand you :)
[10:08] <medfly> peace-keeper, ubuntu-desktop is what ubuntu installs when you want to install ubuntu on a desktop, all the graphical stuff that comes with it.. theres an xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu, kubuntu-desktop, for kubuntu
[10:08] <IRCMonkeyX> medfly : u had same sheet too ? one by one and dependies, o thanx god for ethernet modem:)
[10:08] <bahadirt> postfix does not open ports on real IP
[10:08] <bahadirt> what can be the problem ?
[10:08] <IRCMonkeyX> medfly : what about ubuntu in laptops ?
[10:09] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, ubuntu-desktop works on them too ;)
[10:09] <medfly> IRCMonkeyX, i dont have a laptop :)
[10:10] <Luke> peace-keeper: ubuntu-desktop is a "metapackage". It does nothing but depend on other programs to easily install them all at once. You can safely remove it if you've installed the other packages explicity
[10:10] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: i read sth at internet, it was telling about difficulties of linux to see devices in laptops??
[10:10] <peace-keeper> i see
[10:10] <syntaxx> Madpilot: it says checking ./casper/filesystem.squash mismatch something
[10:10] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, that depends on the laptop - and Linux is getting better at working with/on laptops
[10:11] <Madpilot> syntaxx, is that the 'Check this CD' thing on your LiveCD?
[10:11] <Tsuki> Well, I managed to edit /etc/fstab and get my other two partitions to mount automatically, but sudo chown isn't allowing me to make the mount points owned by my user name
[10:11] <syntaxx> Madpilot: yeah well not on livecd cd i downloaded the ubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, Yeah, I've got a laptop, and all the stuff on it was working completely out-of-the-box -- trackpad, battery meter, sound, video, everything
[10:12] <kr3wza> What is the minimum size of a partition that the Ubuntu installer will try to create?
[10:12] <Madpilot> syntaxx, sorry, I've lost track of what you're trying to do
[10:12] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: i am gonna take my pc to office, and server is winxp in office, my pc has two OS ubuntu and xp, should i use samba for using internet at office ?
[10:12] <kr3wza> While trying to split an existing partition.
[10:12] <syntaxx> Tsuki: try editing your fstab and put user,ro,umask=022
[10:12] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, I don't know, I've never had to use SAMBA
[10:12] <IRCMonkeyX> i see
[10:12] <m_0_r_0_n> Do I get any problems with Udev when installing the new kernel-image?
[10:12] <medfly> kr3wza, i think it asks for 1.2gb, but itll complain if you give it too little
[10:12] <IRCMonkeyX> people, i am gonna take my pc to office, and server is winxp in office, my pc has two OS ubuntu and xp, should i use samba for using internet at office ?
[10:13] <ardchoille> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[10:13] <basvg> what would be the easiest way to purge (config files inclusive) everything cups-related and start over?
[10:13] <syntaxx> Madpilot: im trying to install ubuntu-desktop and after i press start or install ubuntu it load the kernel and do nothing and i check this cd for defects and i have that
[10:13] <peace-keeper> why firefox and thunderbird have so ugly icons instead of their original ones? :D
[10:13] <Chousuke> IRCMonkeyX: Samba is for filesharing.
[10:13] <Madpilot> syntaxx, did you burn this CD yourself, or is it a ShipIt one?
[10:13] <syntaxx> Madpilot: download and burn
[10:14] <Dimitrije> peace-keeper, i ask myselft the same thing.
[10:14] <Chousuke> IRCMonkeyX: You shouldn't need it if you just want to connect to the internet through a windows xp gateway.
[10:14] <Tsuki> I add those options right after defaults? defaults,user,ro,umask=032?
[10:14] <Madpilot> syntaxx, then you got a bad burn, or a bad download. did you run md5sum on the ISO you downloaded?
[10:14] <IRCMonkeyX> Chousuke: thanx for it, my internet is 6gb limit, i need to do that, for updating
[10:15] <syntaxx> Tsuki: uhmm can you pm me your fstab line that you want to mount?
[10:15] <nikin> good morning
[10:15] <bioticpro> Anyone here use xmame?
[10:15] <syntaxx> Madpilot: nope
[10:15] <TheGateKeeper> IRCMonkeyX: you don't need to to copy files from the server, konqueror seems to have a samba client built into it
[10:15] <Madpilot> syntaxx, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[10:15] <syntaxx> ok
[10:15] <bahadurt> hello
[10:15] <bahadurt> can someone tell me how to allow relaying on postfix
[10:16] <Tsuki> one second, syntaxx, I need to register my name
[10:16] <bahadurt> nobody can send me mails, all are rejected saying (relay access denied)
[10:16] <syntaxx> Madpilot: i download it using my winxp though
[10:16] <IRCMonkeyX> by the way i found a link for package downloading to a cd, (i cant use synaptic update tool cause of internet limit)
[10:16] <Madpilot> syntaxx, that URL should have XP instructions too (it certainly used to...)
[10:17] <regoahr> all:
[10:17] <Madpilot> syntaxx, hmm, sorry, the XP info is gone from there :(
[10:17] <kr3wza> Back to the partitioning. It says something like 90 gigabytes or something weird like that.
[10:17] <Madpilot> syntaxx, found this instead: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:17] <syntaxx> ok
[10:18] <kr3wza> Is that a response of how much space it's going to leave on the other partition or how much its going to re-use?
[10:18] <IRCMonkeyX> what must be done when we get grub error 17 ?? pls someone can tell me??
[10:18] <Madpilot> kr3wza, Ubuntu uses about 1.8Gb to install
[10:18] <h3x0r> awesome
[10:19] <Tsuki> oh, bugger, seems my name is registered to someone else
[10:19] <h3x0r> the dapper compiz patch just released fixed my minimize problem
[10:19] <nikin> noob-saibot: are you the same noob-saibot who is on Enemy Territory?
[10:19] <kr3wza> noob-saibot = MK character name
[10:19] <scanf> hi
[10:19] <bahadurt> can somebody help on relaying
[10:19] <bahadurt> postfix
[10:19] <regoahr> scanf:
[10:20] <sishgupta> haha has anyone seen this before?: http://www.limewire.com/new/english/content/download/question.php?type=basic
[10:20] <scanf> anyone here know how to set pingable hostname in dhcp
[10:20] <sishgupta> what a friggin joke
[10:20] <scanf> i.e. I can't enter a static address for hostname in /etc/hosts
[10:20] <IRCMonkeyX> people must i install a firewall to ubuntu ?? or it has already in it ??
[10:20] <scanf> becuase the interface is dhcp
[10:21] <sishgupta> you have to install one
[10:21] <sishgupta> get automatix
[10:21] <scanf> I tried the"hostnam" line in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:21] <scanf> hostname
[10:21] <scanf> but
[10:21] <regoahr> use iptables as firewall
[10:21] <regoahr> bb all
[10:21] <ardchoille> !firewall > IRCMonkeyX
[10:21] <scanf> I can't ping that when I reboot
[10:21] <scanf> ideas?
[10:22] <nikin> LOL
[10:22] <Rub3X``> can someone help me i have a gigabyte mobo GA-7N400 Pro2  and a DiamondMax Ultra series hdd and when i try and install ubuntu it freezes at the formatting part =(
[10:22] <tjansson> !packages
[10:22] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[10:23] <IRCMonkeyX> sishgupta>	i cant see automatix, in add/remove programs ??
[10:23] <ardchoille> IRCMonkeyX: It won't be there
[10:23] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, if you really need a firewall, just install Firestarter
[10:23] <IRCMonkeyX> sishgupta>	sudo install apt-get automatix ?? is it correct?
[10:23] <porges> !firewall > porges
[10:24] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, and avoid Automatix, it breaks things
[10:24] <IRCMonkeyX> sudo install apt-get firestarter  // is it correct command ??
[10:24] <azzurri> anyone know how to fix this error msg please pm me FAILED TO START YOUR XSERVER (graphics interface) it is likely that is it no set up coprrectly
[10:24] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:24] <ardchoille> !info firestarter
[10:25] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[10:25] <printk> hello, what version of xorg does dapper come with?
[10:25] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, use Synaptic instead, it's a bit easier than apt-get
[10:25] <psykotic> Madpilot: yeah, my one affair with automatix left me feeling like it was a terribly coded mess kept together (barely) by chicken wire and duct tape
[10:25] <Madpilot> psykotic, heh. The folks I know who code say nearly *exactly* the same thing :)
[10:25] <acojlo> !info guarddog
[10:25] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[10:25] <queuetue> Hi.  Has anyone used asterisk?  I've got it set up and working, but gsm playback over IAX2 isn't working.  MP3 playback or "tone" playback are fine.  Is this a known issue, by any chance?
[10:26] <Gixbit> Anybody know anything about "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[10:26] <acojlo> I like ubuntu :)
[10:26] <IRCMonkeyX> MadPilot: how will i use synaptic for it ??
[10:27] <IRCMonkeyX> it is not in synaptic too
[10:27] <psykotic> maddler: the main issue seems to be the error handling. if it fails half way through installing some component it doesn't seems to reliably clean up after itself.
[10:27] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, firestarter should be in Synaptic - if it's available thru apt-get, it'll be visible in Synaptic
[10:27] <Gixbit> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic --update-at-startup --non-interactive --hide-main-window
[10:27] <kr3wza> How do I get the fangirls to go to bed so I can reboot to linux..
[10:28] <printk> what version of xorg comes with dapper?
[10:28] <kr3wza> I'm serious, all these friggin 14 year old emo kids that find my website randomly won't shut up long enough for me to restart my friggin computer.
[10:28] <Madpilot> psykotic, yeah - and the fact that the (now ex-) developer of automatix would go frothing mad at even the politest attempt at a bug report...
[10:28] <ardchoille> IRCMonkeyX: Do you have universe enabled? Firestarter is in universe.
[10:28] <Gixbit> kr3wza: haha
[10:29] <azzurri> failed to start x server how do i fix
[10:29] <IRCMonkeyX> ardchoille: i dont know how to enable it :(
[10:29] <kr3wza> It's an epidemic of e-fame.
[10:29] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell IRCMonkeyX about repos
[10:29] <Ace2007> what does ./bootstrap do?
[10:31] <azzurri> SOME ONE HELP ME :s
[10:31] <azzurri> :S
[10:31] <syntaxx> Madpilot: after i compare it says md5sum different is it bad download?
[10:31] <Madpilot> syntaxx, yes
[10:32] <syntaxx> Madpilot: oh ok =/ one more thing if i download the ubuntu-server is there a splash screen on booting also?
[10:32] <Madpilot> syntaxx, no idea, actually
[10:32] <kr3wza> Shaynna says: ok...i am going to go now..
[10:32] <Gixbit> I get this error when i try to do updates with Ubuntu in the tray. Any ideas why? "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic --update-at-startup --non-interactive --hide-main-window. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[10:32] <kr3wza> Finally
[10:32] <kr3wza> fangirls do sleep!
[10:32] <cmvo> Hi! Does anybody know of a PCI IDE controller card that supports DVD drives?
[10:33] <kr3wza> Now, I reboot to linux.
[10:33] <sishgupta> whats a good gnutella/g2 client for ubuntu?
[10:33] <syntaxx> Madpilot: oic coz ubuntu-server is much less file size than the desktop
[10:33] <Madpilot> syntaxx, -server has no graphical interface at all, it's totally command-line. that's why it's smaller
[10:34] <syntaxx> Madpilot: yeah anyway thanks for the help.. maybe ill stick in debian for awhile need to download again ^^
[10:34] <Madpilot> syntaxx, download the ISO via BitTorrent; BT's got it's own error checking and I've never had a bad ISO that way
[10:35] <thundr> Madpilot, doesn't Dapper include bittorrent by default?
[10:35] <syntaxx> Madpilot: hmm ok but BT is quite slow than direct download
[10:35] <Madpilot> syntaxx, yeah, it's slower, but it's reliable
[10:35] <Madpilot> thundr, it does
[10:35] <nikin> Madpilot, good to know, but theng how can i install X, and all
[10:36] <thundr> syntaxx, not necessarily, it depends on the quality of the torrent
[10:36] <bahadurt> guys
[10:36] <bahadurt> could someone please help for postfix
[10:36] <acojlo> i've just watched wifi moive :)
[10:37] <acojlo> about wifi insecurity
[10:37] <acojlo> anyone know about Kernel and "Disable Execute Bit" option in the BIOS?
[10:37] <Madpilot> nik, you could do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and AFAIK that would pull all the graphical bits you need in - it would be a massive download, though...
[10:38] <acojlo> join #ubuntu-laptop
[10:41] <kr3wza> ahh...
[10:41] <kr3wza> now to just wait for ubuntu to partition my hd
[10:42] <rob> nice
[10:42] <rob> :P
[10:42] <kr3wza> I swear.
[10:42] <kr3wza> I should just be able to install it on a partition I create
[10:42] <kr3wza> it doesn't need to create one for itself...
[10:42] <kr3wza> I have this feeling, it's gonna take all night.
[10:43] <dm> [only 7 days of syslog.*.gz]  It's because syslog has its own logrotate implemented in cron.daily.
[10:44] <Kaushik> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:44] <Kaushik> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:44] <Kaushik> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[10:44] <Kaushik> /dev/hda3 on /home type ext2 (rw)
[10:44] <Kaushik> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[10:44] <IRCMonkeyX> MadPilot: i installed it, it is only 391 kb :)
[10:44] <Kaushik> Temp fs mounted thrice
[10:44] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, which is?
[10:44] <Kaushik> Is someone trying to snoop
[10:44] <Madpilot> Kaushik, please don't paste here
[10:45] <Kaushik> Sorry..
[10:45] <IRCMonkeyX> MadPilot: firestarter
[10:45] <Kaushik> I need info ... Which I'm not able to figure out..
[10:45] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, yeah, it's not very big, but it works well
[10:45] <kr3wza> Seriously though... why does Ubuntu partitioning take so long...
[10:45] <IRCMonkeyX> MadPilot: could you suggest me anti-virus too pls ?
[10:46] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, don't bother. There really aren't any viruses that can attack Linux
[10:46] <kr3wza> Step 5 of 6.
[10:46] <Kaushik> Madpilot any clues ..?
[10:46] <thejusticecow> i thought there was 3...
[10:46] <nikin> AMdpilot, i have 2,5 Mbps, tha will not we a problem
[10:46] <kr3wza> I have a virus that devastates every Linux box I hit with it.
[10:47] <IRCMonkeyX> people, and what about babylon in linux ? any similar program ?
[10:47] <kr3wza> framing.hammer
[10:47] <rmarques_> #sicus
[10:48] <thundr> kr3wza, why?
[10:48] <kr3wza> why what?
[10:48] <ardchoille> thundr: Don't feed the trolls
[10:48] <IRCMonkeyX> should i use amsn ? or any other thing? what do u say ?
[10:49] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, I haven't used amsn, but I'm sure it's fine
[10:49] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, I use gaim
[10:49] <Kaushik> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:49] <Kaushik> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:49] <Kaushik> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[10:49] <Kaushik> /dev/hda3 on /home type ext2 (rw)
[10:49] <Kaushik> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[10:49] <Kaushik> __> Tempfs has been mounted thrice is this an ubuntu thing or someone running a rootkit..
[10:49] <thundr> Kaushik, paste in the pastebin please
[10:49] <thejusticecow> thundr: new gaim does not work on ubuntu
[10:49] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: gaim is similar to msn messenger ?
[10:50] <kr3wza> I'm just irritated that partitioning is taking so long... And It doesn't give me a pretty GUI to say hey, I'm working.
[10:50] <thundr> thejusticecow, oh, really?
[10:50] <thejusticecow> thundr: yes you need a patch which no one seems to be able to tell me to get...
[10:50] <burepe> what is the command to get all my specs?
[10:50] <IRCMonkeyX> so pls tell me what to download as msn :)
[10:50] <IRCMonkeyX> amsn ?
[10:50] <kr3wza> GAIM works wonders.
[10:51] <thejusticecow> if it works
[10:51] <Keb> gaim is ine
[10:51] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, gaim is a program that allows you to connect to everything (msn, aim, icq, yahoo, even irc and a bunch of others)
[10:51] <Keb> i didnot have any problems with gaim
[10:51] <thejusticecow> !gaim
[10:51] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[10:51] <thejusticecow> keb: which version?
[10:51] <Keb> kopete is fine too
[10:51] <Feral_Kid> What file to I add modules that I want to automatically load at boot time?
[10:51] <IRCMonkeyX> now i will install gaim, an tell you, if working or not :)
[10:51] <Keb> dunno, i'm under windows atm
[10:52] <thejusticecow> IRCMonkeyX: if it works i will be hella angry :D
[10:52] <Keb> my windows gaim is 1.5.0
[10:52] <nikin> can someoneo tell me, how to install X after i installed the server, i dont wnat the whoole Gnome stuff, Icewm, or Xfce would be good enough for me
[10:52] <Feral_Kid> Let me tru that again... How do I get modules to load automatically at boot time?
[10:52] <Madpilot> nikin, xubuntu-desktop will get you XFCE
[10:52] <Keb> xfce is the best :)
[10:52] <thejusticecow> keb: and u use dapper latest?
[10:53] <thejusticecow> keb: i use xfce
[10:53] <IRCMonkeyX> ohh sorry it is already installed, i didnt know it, lets try :)
[10:53] <Keb> i think, i did
[10:53] <nikin> Madpilot: i understand
[10:53] <thundr> thejusticecow, it's working for me as well
[10:53] <thundr> thejusticecow, version 1.5.1
[10:53] <kr3wza> Seriously though... is the partition thing even working?
[10:53] <thejusticecow> thundr: for me when i connect to msn it just dissapears and someone told me its a bug that i need a patch for which i can not find
[10:53] <dapet> Anyone have experience with installing driver for the netgear WG111v2 usb wireles adapter driver?
[10:54] <thundr> thejusticecow, have you tried reinstalling it?
[10:54] <thejusticecow> thundr: nope
[10:54] <thejusticecow> thundr: what would be the difference?
[10:54] <Keb> as an alternate program u can try kopete, my firend who got me to use linux uses it
[10:54] <thejusticecow> keb: i am using it now
[10:54] <thejusticecow> keb: it sucks
[10:55] <Keb> ok, i dont know it..
[10:55] <Keb> never tried
[10:55] <thundr> It's similar to trillian
[10:55] <Keb> T_T i only want my system to run properly
[10:55] <thundr> Keb, but tinkering is fun :)
[10:56] <IRCMonkeyX> people, it works, but i have msn account from yahoo, it doesnt open it
[10:56] <Keb> yah, but my ntfs showed as unformatted is not fun....
[10:56] <libuntu> re
[10:56] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, how did you get an msn account from yahoo?
[10:57] <Keb> it became raw when i reinstalled grub
[10:57] <Keb> and i have important document on it
[10:57] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: not yahoo messenger, i use my yahoo account for microsft msn messenger
[10:57] <thejusticecow> IRCMonkeyX: it stops working when you log into msn so it may still not work
[10:57] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, oh
[10:58] <libuntu> i couldn't get the point, i need your help! :) http://nopaste.biz/?7226 i using a dualhead G450 gfx card, two screens are working but one are using only 640x480, i couldn't change it. at the nopaste service you can see the Xorg.log. thanks for helping me!
[10:58] <IRCMonkeyX> thejusticecow: everyone is offline at my other hotmail account ???
[10:58] <thejusticecow> IRCMonkeyX: damnit.... you using daper?
[10:59] <IRCMonkeyX> how can i log in as offline,? let me check my other hotmail accoun too ,pls
[10:59] <IRCMonkeyX> yes i use dapper
[10:59] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, in gaim you can add multiple msn accounts
[11:00] <jme> hey, can I get my system to stop fscking on every 30th bootup?
[11:00] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: i added three of them, i wanna try my third account too, but i must log in as invisible , because it is socrowded, how can i do it?
[11:00] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: i added three of them, i wanna try my third account too, but i must log in as invisible , because it is so crowded, how can i do it?
[11:01] <libuntu> nobody could help me? :(
[11:01] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, because your account is so crowded or because your window is crowded?
[11:02] <dapet> Anyone have experience with installing driver for the netgear WG111v2 usb wireles adapter? plz, say my name and i will be here.
[11:02] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: noo, i have about 300 people at my  msn :)
[11:02] <Gixbit> How do I uninstall something i installed by compiling it
[11:03] <floppyears> hi
[11:03] <floppyears> can ubuntu mount a mac intel partition ?
[11:03] <nikin> IRCmonkey: are you using Gaim?
[11:03] <IRCMonkeyX> nikin: trying to use gaim, it is first time
[11:04] <nikin> try aMSN . is working by me
[11:04] <syntaxx> libuntu: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use the simple method when asking for your monitor resolution and then select all the resolutions on the 2nd option it will give u the best fit for your vc
[11:04] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, you can set your status to hidden
[11:04] <libuntu> syntaxx: but it will kill my second screen
[11:04] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: but no option, before log in??
[11:04] <floppyears> anybody?
[11:05] <syntaxx> libuntu: what second screen?
[11:05] <thundr> floppyears, I'm not sure.
[11:05] <Gixbit> Anybody know how to remove something that was compiled and installed
[11:05] <thundr> floppyears, I know mount can mount practically anything, so I wouldn't assume no.
[11:05] <Gixbit> I installed glib2.10.0 but i dont need it now..
[11:06] <libuntu> syntaxx: sorry i am using a dualhead gfx card, with two tfts, one works with 1600x1200, the other only with 640x480 with written in logfile that from nopaste service
[11:06] <libuntu> syntaxx: both screens are the same
[11:06] <libuntu> syntaxx: i mean same manifactor, dell
[11:06] <pkrumins> Hi, I got this ubuntu 5.04 version free cd, what is the root passwd?
[11:07] <IRCMonkeyX> people gaim works...i tried it
[11:07] <kr3wza> im using it now
[11:07] <thundr> pkrumins, root is disabled by default, use sudo instead
[11:07] <pkrumins> ah, it encourages to use sudo, ok
[11:07] <pkrumins> ok, thanks
[11:08] <IRCMonkeyX> can we use webcam in gaim ??
[11:08] <Gixbit> IRCMonkeyX: then how come i cant install plugins?
[11:08] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, possibly in the beta version, not in the 1.5.1 stable I don't hink
[11:08] <thejusticecow> what is the command to remove an application?
[11:08] <IRCMonkeyX> gixbit: i have no idea, i tried from installedone
[11:09] <IRCMonkeyX> apt-get remove
[11:09] <thejusticecow> ta
[11:09] <syntax[a] > libuntu: what vc are you using?
[11:09] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: amns allows for webcam ?
[11:10] <thundr> thejusticecow, throw a sudo in front of that of course - also, there's a purge command that removes it completely, but use remove in most cases
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> thundr: aMsn allows for webcam ?
[11:10] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, I don't know, let me check
[11:10] <Gixbit> Does anybody know how to remove a compiled and installed source code
[11:10] <thejusticecow> thundr: may i ask the difference? what to you mean completly? like it puts a bunch of data on top of it so no one can find it on the hdd?
[11:10] <tanlaan> anyone know a good linux irc? I want information on how people did things only using bash backin in the "good o'l days". Especially things we *young people* take advantage of in GUI's everyday.
[11:11] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: if its from source try make uninstall
[11:11] <tanlaan> maybe even a good forum would do
[11:11] <thundr> tanlaan, try ircd - that's what I use when I use IRC in the CLI
[11:11] <Gixbit> make: *** [uninstall-recursive]  Error 1
[11:12] <kr3wza> lol, restart
[11:12] <libuntu> re
[11:12] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : doesn't look good
[11:12] <YaH00> 
[11:12] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: are you sure its installed?
[11:12] <tanlaan> thundr: oops, i meant like a linux chat channel i guess *new to irc*
[11:12] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : pretty sure
[11:12] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : i did make install
[11:13] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : and after i did make install i assumed it installed
[11:13] <libuntu> http://nopaste.biz/?7226 where could be the fault of this? (II) MGA(0): Not using mode "1600x1200" (no mode of this name)
[11:13] <thejusticecow> is there a way to apt-get an older version of a program?
[11:13] <thundr> thejusticecow, oh, purge?  I'm not sure, really.  I think it has something to remove the source packages as well from the hdd.
[11:13] <IRCMonkeyX> what was the command to see working tasks ?
[11:13] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: did the make doesnt show any errors in it?
[11:13] <thundr> thejusticecow, yes, forceversion - it's easy in synaptic
[11:13] <thejusticecow> thundr: thanks
[11:13] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : no
[11:14] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : when it was done it showed nothing just the prompt again
[11:14] <libuntu> the other screen on the other port of the gfx card, with the same monitor works with this mode
[11:14] <syntax[a] > IRCMonkeyX: ps aux
[11:14] <thundr> tanlaan, one second
[11:14] <thejusticecow> thundr: you mean use the gui in synaptic to get it?
[11:14] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: hmm what software are you trying to uninstall?
[11:15] <thundr> thejusticecow, you can try typing man apt-get for info on the purge flag - yes, in synaptic - it's possible on the command line, but I don't know how
[11:15] <Gixbit> syntax[a] :Glib-2.10.0
[11:15] <thejusticecow> thundr: thank you for tolerating my noobness
[11:15] <IRCMonkeyX> syntax[a] : i closed firestarted, how can iknow ,is it working at background or not ?
[11:15] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: repositories doesnt have glib?
[11:15] <tanlaan> !help
[11:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:15] <syntax[a] > IRCMonkeyX: well how did u run the firestarter?
[11:16] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : i dont know
[11:16] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : nothing is working right for me right now
[11:16] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: try apt-cache search glib
[11:16] <thundr> thejusticecow, no problem, we're all newbies at some point (I'd barely put myself in "intermediate" in regards to my linux skills)
[11:16] <carthik_zzz> IRCMonkeyX, try $ps aux | grep firestarter
[11:17] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, I believe it does - with the new version I think it minimizes to the tray, but I could be wrong
[11:17] <thundr> IRCMonkeyX, oh, it's a check box in the settings to minimize to the tray
[11:18] <thundr> Be right back, I have to restart due to a dist-upgrade
[11:18] <hot_jessica1989> join #sex
[11:18] <libuntu> no one could help me? i try to get it since hours ;)
[11:19] <syntax[a] > libuntu: i havent tried the dualhead try google
[11:19] <FiberOptics> !dualboot
[11:19] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:19] <dapet> Anyone have experience with installing driver for the netgear WG111v2 usb wireles adapter? plz, say my name and i will be here.
[11:19] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : it shows some glib2.0
[11:19] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: installed it apt-get install glib2.0
[11:20] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : E: Couldn't find package glib2.0
[11:20] <libuntu> syntax[a] : thx but i think i made a simple fault, because dualhead works very well, only the resolution on one screen
[11:21] <queuetue> Has anyone used asterisk?  I've got it set up and working, but gsm playback over IAX2 isn't working.  MP3 playback or "tone" playback are fine.  Is this a known issue, by any chance?
[11:22] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: you must put the exact glib filename
[11:23] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : but i installed 2.10.0 while 2.0 was there
[11:23] <libuntu> xorg restart, will be back in seconds
[11:23] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : and now everything is going crazy
[11:23] <eternaljoy> hi everyone
[11:23] <eternaljoy> anyone home?
[11:24] <eternaljoy> Gixbit: hey hey
[11:24] <Gixbit> hmm?
[11:24] <Gixbit> don't know what i can do..
[11:25] <Gixbit> syntax[a] : is there anyway i can check for 2.10.0 to see if it's anywhere?
[11:25] <syntax[a] > Gixbit: type update db and locate glib
[11:25] <syntax[a] > err updatedb
[11:26] <syntaxx> Gixbit: and next time please check the repositories first before installing any from source ^^
[11:27] <mikilinu> italiani?????????????????
[11:27] <Gixbit> syntaxx: it doesnt really show anything from 2.10.0
[11:27] <mikilinu> Help me
[11:27] <mikilinu> talian?????????????
[11:27] <mikilinu> *italian???????????
[11:28] <syntaxx> Gixbit: what version of glib you installed from source?
[11:28] <Gixbit> syntaxx: apparently 2.10.0
[11:28] <dapet> Anyone have experience with installing driver for the netgear WG111v2 usb wireles adapter? plz, say my name and i will be here.
[11:29] <syntaxx> Gixbit: well you cant saw the version no. of the glib u installed from source though
[11:29] <mikilinu> stikkiu din vostra cucina
[11:29] <MatthewV> dapet, i think i did once, using ndiswrapper, and it worked, but i can't help you with that, any more, check !nsidwrapper
[11:29] <mikilinu> ci sono italiani
[11:29] <mikilinu> ??????
[11:29] <syntaxx> Gixbit: what happens after apt-get install from repositories?
[11:29] <mikilinu> MatthewV italian????
[11:29] <MatthewV> !it
[11:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <gean> hi all !
[11:29] <MatthewV> mikilinu, ^^ :)
[11:30] <tanlaan> anyone know a good linux irc channel? I want information on how people did things only using bash backin in the "good o'l days". Especially things we *young people* take advantage of in GUI's everyday.
[11:30] <mikilinu> ubotu rou are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:30] <Gixbit> syntaxx: which install?
[11:30] <syntaxx> Gixbit: did you sudo apt-get install glib?
[11:30] <Madpilot> !it
[11:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30] <Gixbit> E: Couldn't find package glib2.0
[11:30] <syntaxx> Gixbit: if you cant make uninstall from the source it means its not installed
[11:30] <Gixbit> er
[11:30] <Gixbit> or glib
[11:30] <Gixbit> it just cant find any glib
[11:31] <Gixbit> syntaxx: E: Couldn't find package glib
[11:31] <syntaxx> Gixbit: did you apt-cache search glib | grep glib?
[11:31] <milos> I want to buy new modem for PC because the one I have now is not working with Ubuntu.Which one should I buy?
[11:31] <_X_> howdy lads, I just move over a ndiswrapper-util deb to my laptop but it wont show up in the admin menu!
[11:31] <_X_> (yes I've installed it :) )
[11:31] <syntaxx> Gixbit: i cant check it though im on windows right now doing something
[11:31] <queuetue> How would I pull a single package from debian testing?
[11:32] <Gixbit> syntaxx: sec
[11:32] <_X_> can I run ndiswarpper-util from the terminal somehow?
[11:33] <MatthewV> !au
[11:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about au - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:33] <MatthewV> ;(
[11:33] <_X_> !ndiswrapper
[11:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:33] <Gixbit> syntaxx: i'm trying to install a plugin for Gaim
[11:33] <dapet> MatthewV:  sorry you have to wait.... I tried Ndiswrapper, but were not able to get it to work... Then I asked for help here, and i were told to install a driver... But I can't get that done too... If I trei the ndiswrapper again, can you help me if i get in problems?
[11:33] <Gixbit> syntaxx: and it say's to put it in the same folder as gaim.pc
[11:33] <syntaxx> Gixbit: what plugin?
[11:33] <Gixbit> syntaxx: gaim-xfire-0.5.8
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> milos: there is a ubuntu hardware compatibity web page somewhere on their wiki site, not sure where
[11:34] <MatthewV> dapet, i can only try, expecially as I don't have it here now, i did it about 1/2 a year og....
[11:34] <syntaxx> Gixbit: why need the glib?
[11:34] <eternaljoy> MatthewV: hi 
[11:34] <Gixbit> syntaxx: because i cant find gaim.pc
[11:34] <syntaxx> Gixbit: gaim must be in your home dir .gaim
[11:34] <MatthewV> dapet, i just followed ndiswrapper instructions at the time and it worked :)
[11:34] <milos> Thanks TheGateKeeper
[11:34] <MatthewV> eternaljoy, hi
[11:34] <MatthewV> brb
[11:34] <dapet>  MatthewV:  okay I trie again, thanks
[11:35] <syntaxx> Gixbit: and if it still doesnt seem to work try joining #gaim
[11:35] <Gixbit> syntaxx: nope
[11:35] <Gixbit> syntaxx: well i mean it wants to be in the main directory
[11:36] <Gixbit> syntaxx: Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. P erhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[11:36] <queuetue> Is there some way to pick what repo a specific package comes from?
[11:36] <syntaxx> Gixbit: do you have gaim installed?
[11:37] <Gixbit> syntaxx: i'm using it to talk to you right now
[11:37] <Seveas> queuetue, apt-get install foo/dapper
[11:37] <DJAdmiral> hey everybody
[11:37] <DJAdmiral> oh hello Seveas!
[11:37] <syntaxx> hmm well i dont know much anything about gaim plugins try joining #gaim they might help you there
[11:37] <Seveas> DJAdmiral, hi
[11:37] <queuetue> Seveas, How would I use debian testing there instead?
[11:37] <Azzco> could somebody help me? I can't run apt-get!
[11:37] <gean> ubuntu gui Q : my hibernate does no longer detect ``me'' from the log-out/lock/... menu . Is there any package that i have to reinstall ?!
[11:37] <Seveas> queuetue, install debian
[11:37] <syntaxx> Azzco: what it says?
[11:37] <Seveas> you should NOT use debian repos on Ubuntu
[11:38] <Azzco> paste here? (only one row)
[11:38] <syntaxx> Azzco: sure
[11:38] <MatthewV> dapet, yeah :) if I'm around i can give you a hand, its good to have specific error messages etc, so people who've seen the error before might be able to help you...
[11:38] <Azzco> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:38] <queuetue> Seveas, The asterisk build in ubuntu appears to be broken.  I would like to try the debian one before I have to uninstall and build from source.
[11:38] <Seveas> queuetue, then apt-get source it from debian and dpkg-buildpackage it....
[11:38] <DJAdmiral> Azzco: what happens when you run sudo dpkg --configure -a then?
[11:39] <dapet> MatthewV: yep you are right, thx :D
[11:39] <queuetue> Seveas, Ok.  How do I apt-get source from a specific respository, then?
[11:39] <tanlaan> i wanna learn how Linux was back in the days when there was no GUI. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I don't just wanna learn how to script using bash, that is not what i want, what im looking for is more of...a history lesson :D
[11:39] <finalbeta> Can I force a screenshot? When the sled10 menu is open I can't take a screen with the normal keycombination :p
[11:39] <Seveas> apt-get source asterisk/testing
[11:39] <Azzco> oh lol I typed --configure with three - works now :)
[11:39] <DJAdmiral> tanlaan: the linux documentation project can help, as well as www.linuxsurvival.com
[11:40] <sorush20> is there an nmm package that i could download and install
[11:40] <sorush20> !nmm#
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about nmm# - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:40] <sorush20> !nmm
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about nmm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:40] <DJAdmiral> tanlaan: That is if I think I'm getting what you want. Wikipedia might have some details about Linux history :)
[11:40] <DJAdmiral> !info nmm
[11:40] <ubotu> Package nmm does not exist in dapper
[11:41] <thejusticecow> how to i dl SVN?
[11:41] <tanlaan> DJAdmiral: Haha I will check it out
[11:41] <DJAdmiral> tanlaan: no problem tanlaan! Glad I could help
[11:41] <frogzoo> thejusticecow: apt-get install subversion
[11:41] <Seveas> thejusticecow, sudo apt-get install subversion
[11:42] <syntaxx> tanlaan: try it on your own you can make your own point of view to history ^^
[11:42] <DJAdmiral> tanlaan: one interesting fact - the original text based linux used to be based on the MIMIX file system.
[11:42] <Seveas> DJAdmiral, it would have been interesting if it weren't horribly wrong 
[11:43] <thejusticecow> thanks
[11:43] <tanlaan> Yea I did check out some history on linux, but i was hoping to find someone who actually WAS back in the days when linux didnt have GUI haha, that would make the learning process a bit shorter and a bit more interesting
[11:43] <frogzoo> DJAdmiral: Torvald's initially developed Linux under Minix, but the architecture is very different
[11:43] <tanlaan> Always fun to hear a good story
[11:43] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: Definitely! But it's nice to know how Linux began at least :)
[11:43] <Seveas> DJAdmiral, i meant that "the original text based linux used to be based on the MIMIX file system" is wrong...
[11:44] <TheSheep> original text based linux O,o
[11:44] <nrdb> which package has the C header files in it?
[11:44] <Seveas> nrdb, libc6-dev
[11:44] <Seveas> !compiling > nrdb
[11:44] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: oh okay.
[11:44] <TheMoebius> so all of my 1.5GB of memory is used up and all my 1.3GB of swap is used up and my computer is running really sluggishly...
[11:44] <jecco> hi
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: nice to learn from a master!
[11:45] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: let me guess, java
[11:45] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: if you can get top to start, hit 'M' to see what's using all your mem
[11:45] <asdx> hi
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> asdx: hello!
[11:45] <TheMoebius> TheSheep: according to top, Xgl is using 50%
[11:45] <jecco> people last gnome update crashed the sistem. now I can't enter in gnome
[11:45] <Seveas> (frogzoo, little hint: apt-get install htop)
[11:45] <asdx> can 32-bit ubuntu be installed on a amd 64 (athlon 64) with nvidia-drivers?
[11:46] <Seveas> asdx, yes
[11:46] <TheMoebius> TheSheep: I'm not sure where the rest of it is going
[11:46] <ashridah> hey. can someone run dpkg -S X11/Xsession and tell me which package on their system contains /etc/X11/Xsession ?
[11:46] <asdx> Seveas, last time i tried 32-bit ubuntu with 32-bit nvidia drivers hanged
[11:46] <asdx> Seveas, and 64-bit ubuntu/nvidia worked fine
[11:46] <Seveas> asdx, did you file a bug?
[11:46] <nrdb> Seveas: I need the files "stdlib.h" etc.
[11:46] <asdx> nope
[11:47] <Seveas> dennis@blackbird:~$ dpkg -S /etc/X11/Xsession
[11:47] <Seveas> xinit: /etc/X11/Xsession
[11:47] <Seveas> ashridah, --^
[11:47] <ashridah> Seveas: hm. got that package. might reinstall it. thanks
[11:47] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: out of curiosity, did you ever try to create an LFS system from any ubuntu system? or Dapper, to be more precise?
[11:47] <syntaxx> tanlaan: you mean running on console? without any gui?
[11:47] <Seveas> nrdb, those are in libc6-dev (you should install build-essential)
[11:47] <ashridah> nrdb: libc6-dev contains those
[11:47] <ashridah> what Seveas said :)
[11:47] <nrdb> Seveas: ok.
[11:47] <Seveas> DJAdmiral, LFS is based on having nothing, not on starting from a distro...
[11:47] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: try pressing 'O' and then 'o' and enter in top
[11:47] <jecco> ubuntus panic gnome panic I can't log in gnome desktop enymore after last gnome upgrade
[11:47] <frogzoo> Seveas: thx, that works nicely
[11:47] <tanlaan> syntaxx: yea
[11:48] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: But you need to have a system to build from, don't you?
[11:48] <Seveas> nrdb, btw, it's #include <stdlib.h> (nto that it should amke a difference)
[11:48] <Seveas> DJAdmiral, true that
[11:48] <jecco> I use xgl
[11:48] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: to execute all the compile commands etc.
[11:48] <syntaxx> tanlaan: well i do but you can try it out for yourself and figure out how to manage and make your own history outt of it :D
[11:48] <Seveas> jecco, then stop using xgl 
[11:48] <nrdb> Seveas: maybe that should be a dependancy of the gcc package.
[11:48] <ompaul> !xgl
[11:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:48] <Seveas> nrdb, gcc works fine without it
[11:49] <TheSheep> what would you recommend for sharing multiple users on a number of workstations?
[11:49] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: So I was curious to know if Dapper is a good system to create an LFS system from then.
[11:49] <tanlaan> syntaxx: :P I just wanted to know how things that we normally do in a GUI such as internet, worked with just bash
[11:49] <ompaul> TheSheep, sharing what?
[11:49] <TheSheep> so far we have nfs+nis+plus some self-written pam modules
[11:49] <jecco> ok what's best ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:49] <asdx> that howto didn't work for athlon 64
[11:49] <TheSheep> ompaul: central user database
[11:49] <DJAdmiral> tanlaan: people used mail, and text based browsers, such as one called 'links'
[11:49] <asdx> the xgl/compiz one
[11:49] <syntaxx> tanlaan: download bitchx and lynx and you will know
[11:49] <TheSheep> ompaul: and homes
[11:49] <Seveas> DJAdmiral, well, I'd want to start from a live system and dapper is too much of a desktop and not a bootstrapping live cd
[11:49] <ompaul> jecco, if you use gnome then ubuntu if you use kde then kubuntu
[11:49] <nrdb> Seveas: maybe it works, but it sure doesn't do anything useful, no even compile a hello world program.
[11:50] <ompaul> jecco, if you don't know test for yourself
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> Seveas: alright then, thanks for the tip! I might as well install from the LFS 6.1.1-4 LiveCD.
[11:50] <jecco> ompaul ok but kubunt gives less prom than ubuntu or is better viceversa
[11:50] <syntaxx> tanlaan: bitchx a text based irc and lynx is a text base browser
[11:50] <Seveas> nrdb, not if you use libc functions to write it 
[11:50] <tanlaan> syntaxx: checking it out right now
[11:50] <queuetue> Seveas, To install the source package from debian, do I need to switch my entire sources.list, update, install the source deb and then switch back?
[11:51] <Seveas> queuetue, you just need to add a debian sourceline to it
[11:51] <tanlaan> syntaxx: think they are on synaptic?
[11:51] <acojlo> how to install scanner mustek?
[11:51] <syntaxx> tanlaan: yes
[11:51] <ompaul> tanlaan, be careful that irc client does require you to config it or it will send abusive exit messages - use irssi in its place
[11:51] <ompaul> tanlaan, irssi-text is the actual package
[11:51] <ttyfscker> !conky
[11:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about conky - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:51] <frogzoo> TheSheep: I'd rec'd nis & nfs - but that's just me, nis isn't everyone's cup of tea
[11:51] <jecco> who gives less probroblem ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:52] <tanlaan> ompaul: lmao what kind of exit messages?
[11:52] <frogzoo> TheSheep: on 2nd thoughts, you'd probly do better with ldap + nfs
[11:52] <ompaul> tanlaan, the kind I ban for
[11:52] <asdx> does anyone here can run xgl/compiz on a amd 64/athlon 64?
[11:52] <tanlaan> ompaul: ok ill keep that in mind :D
[11:52] <Seveas> !xgl > asdx
[11:52] <TheSheep> frogzoo: the problem is the yare going to let some students with their own boxes, with roots and stuff -- we are a little afraid of sniffing :)
[11:52] <TheMoebius> TheSheep: OK, it looks like Xgl is using 1786m of VIRT, java is 1599m and the next highest thing is 320m
[11:52] <syntaxx> ompaul: hmm i havent tested bitchx in ubuntu but in debian i just apt-get install bitchx no configuration at all
[11:53] <TheMoebius> TheSheep: but I'm not entirely sure what VIRT means
[11:53] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: kill the java :)
[11:53] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: it's the virtual memory = actual ram + swap used
[11:53] <frogzoo> TheSheep: well kerberos is your only hope
[11:53] <TheSheep> frogzoo: I was afraid of it :(
[11:53] <tanlaan> hmm which should i get? elinks, links, or lynx?
[11:53] <ompaul> TheSheep, that is what different subnets are for - if your doing that then you better be prepared to make fort knox out of your own servers and clients if your letting students have access to root on your network
[11:53] <tanlaan> or all three lol
[11:53] <TheSheep> frogzoo: what about homes? cifs?
[11:54] <syntaxx> tanlaan: lynx is a text base browser yet links a text base browser with frame support
[11:54] <jecco> so people ubuntu runs better on kde or gnome?
[11:54] <frogzoo> TheSheep: encrypted nfs loopbacks o.O
[11:54] <tanlaan> syntaxx: i just wanted to know which of the three was "best"
[11:54] <Seveas> jecco, so what's better: oranges or apples?
[11:54] <TheSheep> ompaul: in fact, we are not so much afraid of user boxes (they are in separate vlan), as the Virtual PC that has access to real ethernet cards on windows :(
[11:54] <ompaul> syntaxx, that package requires users to change the quit messages - its attitude is - my user is too lame to read any docs - which is not a good attitude for any thing
[11:54] <TheMoebius> TheSheep: OK, that frees up a lot. Should Xgl be taking 1785 though?
[11:55] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: obviously not
[11:55] <syntaxx> tanlaan: if you want to try how the good ol days works use lynx ^^
[11:55] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: but it's a beta, it can have memory leaks
[11:55] <jecco> seveas come on...  I personaly prefer kde but I have the impression that ubuntu is more indicate for gnome
[11:55] <tanlaan> syntaxx: haha ok, im gonna download both elinks and lynx because elinks is the "enhanced version" of links
[11:55] <TheSheep> TheMoebius: you can kill it with alt+ctrl+backspace, but that will also kill all your apps
[11:55] <hussam> jecco, kde is a bit faster than gnome at the moment. but in a distribution like Ubuntu, gnome is receiving more development attention from Ubuntu developers.
[11:56] <jecco> this make me unfair to install kubuntu
[11:56] <ompaul> TheSheep, what is it with windows of which I am glad to say I know almost nothing about - seems like your building a problem into the set up
[11:56] <syntaxx> ompaul: lol he just wanted to try it.. its not a big deal if he is too lame to read any docs ^^
[11:56] <Seveas> jecco, just install which you prefer
[11:56] <ompaul> syntaxx, it is a problem if the quit message insults those left in the channel
[11:56] <shinobi2> how to i change the boot splash screen back to ubuntu? currently it's kubuntu
[11:57] <syntaxx> ompaul: well your using linux then you should know how to read at all ^^
[11:57] <TheSheep> ompaul: yes, it's kind of a little argument with the windows admins :)
[11:57] <jecco> hussam so this means that is better if I install ubuntu
[11:57] <TheSheep> ompaul: but the students need Virtual PC, and the windows admins can't (or won't) block the access to the ethernet cards
[11:57] <ompaul> syntaxx, there is no need for the authors to do that to their users - what must they think of them ..... nuff said
[11:57] <shinobi2> how do i check the status of my wifi connection? i want to view a cardiogram looking-monitor-screen?
[11:58] <sam_> hi
[11:58] <sam_> im so drunk my head is spinning like a whirl pool its never ending
[11:58] <ba5e> oh dear
[11:58] <TheSheep> sam_: get some sleep
[11:58] <ompaul> TheSheep, then make their network have one point where it sees your network and be careful what it talks
[11:58] <TheSheep> ompaul: no way, it's dial boot in all the labs :)
[11:58] <jecco> I see that kde has much more developmens in art-designer than gnome
[11:59] <TheSheep> s/dial/dual
[11:59] <jecco> kde-look has much more than gnome-look
[12:00] <TheSheep> one more question. if I wanted to store the homes on a windows server, what would be the best method? cfis? nfs server for windows? I'm mostly concerned about the unix-style file rights...
[12:00] <Keb> xfce hs more look than kde xD
[12:00] <AlexC_> Hey,
[12:00] <ompaul> TheSheep, I would not, but that is me
[12:00] <frogzoo> TheSheep: it's not a perfect solution, but an improvement would be to implement pvlans
[12:01] <AlexC_> I have a WinXP hard drive at the moment - i'd like to Install Ubuntu on it, but still have WinXP on one partition - is this possible and how do I do it?
[12:01] <TheSheep> frogzoo: too much work :)
[12:01] <ompaul> !dualboot > AlexC_
[12:01] <thundr> AlexC_, definately possible
[12:01] <ompaul> AlexC_, please read the message from the bot tells you how to
[12:02] <eternaljoy> how can I download peer to peer programs?
[12:03] <Firenu> anyone got a graphical irc client to recommend ? (newest stable ubuntu) and ill also need instructions =)
[12:03] <eternaljoy> ompaul: is limewire the best p2p for ubuntu?
[12:03] <AlexC_> ompaul: oh god, I have to use that manual partition ? That thing really does such and has never worked with me
[12:03] <TheSheep> Firenu: try xchat
[12:03] <TheSheep> Firenu: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[12:03] <dapet> When I have installed ndiswrapper with synaptic, how does it work?
[12:03] <ompaul> eternaljoy, ehh I think they call it frostwire
[12:03] <AlexC_> ompaul: it _always_ locks up and/or doesn't create the partitions
[12:04] <ompaul> AlexC_, first off - defrag your windows take some space (a little bit) do it again growing the space and keep defragging small steps or
[12:04] <thundr> AlexC_, it's much better in dapper
[12:05] <frogzoo> AlexC_: first defrag, then use something like partition magic to resize the  ntfs partition - not qtparted - then try the install
[12:05] <acojlo> ubuntu digikam, what software to use?
[12:05] <AlexC_> thundr: I am using dapper - that's what I mean, the manual partition GUI is so damm complicated and never works
[12:05] <jme> I wonder if it's necessary to be running cron, anacron, and atd..
[12:05] <ompaul> AlexC_,  get your data off the box - back it up do a smaller install of windows and install dapper in the free space - or get partition magic
[12:05] <Firenu> "E: Couldn't find package xchat-gnome" <- on sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[12:06] <abhinay> how could i extract rar files in ubuntu ?
[12:06] <rodelrod> while updating all packages of ubuntu-server through aptitude, the linux kernel update is trying to uninstall grup and install lilo instead. I want to stick with grup, which I had already configured, so I just manually changed it. Anyway I wonder why would the upgrade try to switch to lilo?
[12:06] <frogzoo> jme: needed for log rotation, & other housekeeping functions
[12:06] <AlexC_> ompaul: yeh I might do partition magic,
[12:06] <syntaxx> Firenu: apt-cache search xchat|grep xchat
[12:06] <jme> frogzoo: all three are used?
[12:06] <Firenu> thx
[12:06] <queuetue> Seveas, I've got the source, and I'm in the directory it created after unpacking and patching, but ... how do I actually build now?
[12:06] <acojlo> my question is stupid - ubuntu is allready set up
[12:06] <thundr> AlexC_, all my dad did was just throw the slider in the gui to the number of GB and had it automatically partition.
[12:06] <jme> I can't imagine why one would need cron if anacron is in use
[12:06] <frogzoo> abhinay: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:06] <jme> the machine is off most of the time
[12:06] <rodelrod> s/updating/upgrading
[12:07] <Firenu> apt-cache gives me nothing, do i need to set it up or something ?
[12:07] <Firenu> (hi, i started with linux today :P )
[12:07] <finalbeta> !uif
[12:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about uif - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:07] <shinobi2> Firenu: good for you =)
[12:07] <eternaljoy> is frostwire the same as limewire?
[12:07] <thundr> Welcome to Linux, Firenu  :)
[12:08] <dapet> Velkommen :D
[12:08] <frogzoo> eternaljoy: it's the same code, different licence
[12:08] <finalbeta> Anyone knows if I can mount an uif image under linux?
[12:08] <thundr> Firenu, is there a reason you need to use apt-cache?
[12:08] <Firenu> well i did have debian running a long while ago, but just for simple services, and i messed up the security settings
[12:08] <timalot> thundr: GNU/Linux :)
[12:08] <Firenu> thundr im trying to install xchat =)
[12:08] <thundr> Indeed, timalot
[12:08] <eternaljoy> ompaul: Couldn't find package frostwire
[12:08] <ompaul> !frostwire > eternaljoy
[12:08] <ompaul> read the bot message
[12:09] <eternaljoy> ompaul: cheers
[12:09] <ompaul> np
[12:09] <thundr> Firenu, are you using Dapper?
[12:09] <minimec> Hi folks. I am not happy with the behavior of my usb stick. When I copy from my harddisk to the usb stick gnome is showing me the copy window with the bar, indicating the copy process. But in fact the system is not copying until I unmount the stick. I thought that it is possible to change this behavior. Can you help me with that?
[12:09] <Firenu> thundr, havent the slightest. i just started with ubuntu some moments ago.
[12:10] <Firenu> !dapper > firenu
[12:10] <rc--> hello
[12:10] <Firenu> hm :<
[12:10] <thundr> Firenu, Dapper's the common name of the latest released version of Ubuntu
[12:10] <ompaul> !away > rc--
[12:10] <Firenu> its 6.06
[12:10] <thundr> Firenu, if you've just downloaded Ubuntu, chances are it's Dapper
[12:10] <thundr> Firenu, yes, that's the one.
[12:10] <frogzoo> minimec: that is default linux behaviour - the usb's file system is buffered by the kernel, flushed on umount
[12:10] <ompaul> !test
[12:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about test - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:11] <queuetue> Or you made a mistake. :)
[12:11] <rc--> where in ubuntu is the default X-Session configured? I have kubuntu and installed "ubuntu-desktop" now the default session is gnome but I want KDE as default session, I can't find where to change this
[12:11] <thundr> Firenu, if you don't want to get complicated, under the applications menu is add-remove programs
[12:11] <egarim> exist a file where could i put my iptables rules in /etc/init.d or could i add into rc.local ?
[12:11] <djang0> rc--, check out gdm and .xsession
[12:11] <ompaul> rc--, if dapper bottom right hand corner to change in gdm and system administration login window while in gnome
[12:11] <eternaljoy> is frostwire any good?
[12:11] <rc--> djang0: well it's kdem actually
[12:12] <queuetue> minimec, Why does it matter if the copy is complete or buffered until you unmount?
[12:12] <Firenu>  thundr excellent =)
[12:12] <djang0> rc--, yeah, whatever
[12:12] <eternaljoy> ompaul: so frostwire is same as limewire, yet free and open source?
[12:12] <minimec> frogzoo: I know that. I am not new to Linux. I thought, that you can change these kind of settings in the /etc/fstab. Well usb is handled by HAL ;)
[12:12] <rc--> djang0: there is no .xsession file ... just .xsession-error
[12:13] <thundr> Firenu, just type in xchat and you'll get the xchat-gnome package installed.  It's a simpler verion of xchat, but if you want the real thing, just click show community (unsupported) applications
[12:13] <djang0> rc--, make one :)
[12:13] <rodelrod> rc--: you can set your default desktop on the login splash screen
[12:13] <ompaul> eternaljoy, I don't know you asked I know that is the usual answer to it - I don't do p2p unless it is distro based i.e. I give away linux
[12:13] <minimec> queuetue: Well I have these wingeeks, who work with my system. They can not wait to unmount the stick ;)
[12:13] <finalbeta> You don't want the xchat-gnome one, to crippled, just go for the real thing, not hard at all
[12:13] <girish> sd
[12:13] <eternaljoy> ompaul: ok cheers!
[12:13] <rc--> rodelrod: in gdm yes, but not with kdm
[12:13] <queuetue> minimec, Then they will just destroy it anyway.  Unmounting properly is important...
[12:14] <Firenu> okay lets say i want the real one, any hassles or unsupported things or anything ?
[12:14] <thundr> finalbeta, some people don't need the real thing.  The xchat-gnome one would be fine for my father, for example.
[12:14] <girish> ohh....now i managed for the first time to logon to freenode ...i dint know how to do this
[12:14] <dapet> I have installed Ndiswrapper in the synoptic, but what now.... Do I have to load my wireless driver, and how?
[12:14] <rodelrod> rc--: my bad, I just use gnome and xfce
[12:14] <thundr> Firenu, not really.
[12:14] <ompaul> minimec, so tell them that they have to ask - and tell them if they ran a real o/s they would remember little things like file system integrity :-)
[12:14] <thundr> Firenu, I'm running plenty of "unsupported" software right now.
[12:14] <finalbeta> thundr, actually, xchat-gnome doesn't let you auto join channel, making it more work = harder for most. With normal xchat you help him set it up one and it will join what he needs it 2
[12:15] <Firenu>  thundr yea but you probably have a clue what youre doing
[12:15] <ompaul> thundr, I use straight xchat but thats just me
[12:15] <minimec> queuetue: ompaul: Ok. THX I will tell them ;)
[12:15] <thundr> ompaul, so do I, which is why I didn't know that it didn't autojoin channels
[12:15] <girish> UbuntuHey actually i dont know this idea of Xchat ...can ny one explain plz.................
[12:16] <ompaul> girish, it is an irc program
[12:16] <girish> wat is the concept of this relay chat?
[12:16] <girish> is it like yahoo chat and all
[12:16] <girish> ?
[12:16] <ompaul> your doing it now
[12:17] <KreativeLight> Hello!  Linux Newbie here!
[12:17] <girish> yeah....i juz managed to do that but i  wud like to know the concept behindthat
[12:17] <thundr> KreativeLight, hello!
[12:17] <KreativeLight> Just testing GAIM and Ubuntu Support Chat Room
[12:17] <ompaul> girish, give you got irc program and translated it to relay chat I figure you know enough already
[12:17] <eternaljoy> !frostwire > eternaljoy
[12:17] <queuetue> girish, http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/
[12:17] <eternaljoy> !frostwire
[12:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:18] <ompaul> eternaljoy, do /msg ubotu KeyWord
[12:18] <KreativeLight> Hope I'll have help in case my tech brother is logged out!
[12:18] <girish> thnak u u quietue
[12:18] <eternaljoy> ompaul: ok
[12:18] <sphivo> finalbeta: xchat-gnome does let you autojoin channels, Edit -> Prefs -> Networks, "Edit" "Users and Channels" tab
[12:18] <finalbeta> girish, IRC = internet relay chat, you log in to a server and you join channel, channels usually had a concept/common topic. Multiple server may be linked to spread load. When server lose connection you will see people leaving the channel because they are on some other server then you, it's called a netsplit. that's all.
[12:18] <dapet> Anyone have experience with ndiswrapper... I have installed it in synaptic, but what now? Do I have to load the XP driver or what?
[12:18] <thundr> girish, it's most like yahoo chat, I guess, only with less spam and meaningless talk
[12:18] <KreativeLight> !canonical
[12:18] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[12:18] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[12:18] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:19] <finalbeta> sphivo, must have missed that then, sry
[12:19] <djang0> i would like to also try this IRC
[12:19] <girish> ohh thanx frenz ....i really needed this chat wen i changed myself to Ubuntu 6
[12:20] <thundr> djang0, you're trying it right now :)
[12:20] <djang0> thundr, wow! i'm a haX0r and all that
[12:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, so do it ;-)
[12:21] <gnomefreak> im kind of hoping they can read between the lines since its 6:20 bc
[12:21] <nrdb> I have a HP officejet 6110, which is  a multi function printer/scanner, I can print, how do I setup for scanning?
[12:22] <ompaul> !scan > nrdb
[12:22] <pkrumins> does ubuntu 5.04 support writing ntfs filesystem?
[12:22] <ompaul> pkrumins, no
[12:22] <Firenu> installing xchat resulted in me getting 'universe', whats that
[12:22] <pkrumins> :/
[12:22] <ompaul> !ntfs
[12:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:22] <gnomefreak> !repos > Firenu
[12:22] <ompaul> !fuse
[12:22] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:22] <ompaul> pkrumins, ^^
[12:22] <pkrumins> thanks
[12:23] <djang0> pkrumins, basically it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't
[12:24] <pkrumins> okay, i will try
[12:24] <djang0> pkrumins, oh and a warning, i have sometimes corrupted data on the ntfs partition by writing to it
[12:24] <thejusticecow> !torrent
[12:24] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:24] <djang0> so do a test
[12:24] <dapet> Anyone have experience with ndiswrapper... I have installed it in synaptic, but what now? Do I have to load the XP driver or what?
[12:25] <ompaul> !wireless > dapet
[12:25] <pkrumins> i had one of windows machines crashed so i want to quickly restore the os w/o reinstalling it. i thought copying one hdd to a new one and then just installing bootloader would be a good try.
[12:25] <ompaul> dapet, the whole wireless info has gone your way in that link from ubotu
[12:26] <frogzoo> pkrumins: as long as you don't change any drive geometries, that would work
[12:27] <Astinus-> Is it possible to download ubuntu install iso with all the latest updates applied?
[12:27] <shinobi2> how do i take a screen shot which is initiated by a mouse click?
[12:27] <pkrumins> if i am running a live cd, can a package be installed
[12:27] <ompaul> Astinus-, not at this time
[12:27] <ompaul> pkrumins, yes
[12:27] <thundr> pkrumins, yes, it can (to RAM)
[12:28] <pkrumins> whew.
[12:28] <ompaul> pkrumins, all depends on the ram you have available
[12:28] <pkrumins> hmm, i try: apt-get install libfuse2 fuse-utils. and it says: ... "E: Couldn't find package libfuse2"
[12:28] <nrdb> I have a HP officeject 6110 I would like to scan with but XSane says device not found? I have tried installing the libsane-extras but that didn't help, can someone help?
[12:28] <pkrumins> running v5.04
[12:29] <IceLink> Does anybody want to say me where the german ubuntu channel is ^_
[12:29] <pkrumins> probably searches cd which doesnt have that package on it?
[12:29] <Astinus-> ompaul: like, ubuntu says there are updates available, but is it possible to say, that it should only tell me if there are critical updates available?
[12:29] <frogzoo> !de
[12:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:29] <amarokker> can anyone suggest a good comic book reader- 'cept qcomicbook?
[12:29] <IceLink> thanks^^
[12:29] <frogzoo> amarokker: there's ff plugins
[12:30] <ompaul> Astinus-, you could look at each of them
[12:30] <thejusticecow> !gaim
[12:30] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[12:30] <ompaul> Astinus-, and then think what is externally exploitable
[12:31] <DanaG> which is better: mepis with gnome, or just plain ubuntu?
[12:31] <pkrumins> v5.04 doesnt come with Fuse on the CD?
[12:31] <thundr> We might be a little biased here :)
[12:31] <ompaul> DanaG, mepis is based on ubuntu so how could it be better :-)
[12:32] <Astinus-> ompaul: hmm... cumbersome
[12:32] <DarkPixel> Hey
[12:32] <amarokker> frogzoo: cant find it on synaptic- is it a gnome-app?
[12:32] <frogzoo> pkrumins: you won't get fuse/ntfs to play on 5.04
[12:32] <DarkPixel> yo guys whats a good cd burning softwar i need to burn an iso to a disc win xp
[12:32] <ompaul> Astinus-, if it was broken it is now fixed at some level and that is why it is an update
[12:32] <frogzoo> amarokker: within firefox -> tools -> extensions
[12:33] <DarkPixel> Anyone Plzzz
[12:33] <thundr> DarkPixel, freeware?
[12:33] <Astinus-> ompaul: well.. an update might be a new feature as well?
[12:33] <DarkPixel> Yes
[12:34] <thundr> DarkPixel, try DeepBurner or CDBurnerXP
[12:34] <timalot> DarkPixel: doesnt windows do iso burning it self?
[12:34] <DarkPixel> plz just i went to reformat my windows xp and my disc had gotten scratched so it was all c0rrupt
[12:34] <thundr> timalot, no
[12:34] <ompaul> Astinus-, there might be some but there would have to be a fix for something in there
[12:34] <pkrumins> grr. okay
[12:34] <DanaG> http://digg.com/software/Finally_a_good_free_CD_burning_software
[12:34] <DarkPixel> no im on ubuntu
[12:34] <TheSheep> DarkPixel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[12:34] <thundr> DarkPixel, you can just right click the iso and go to write to disc
[12:34] <ompaul> given that that version looses support in October maybe upgrade first
[12:35] <DanaG> The ISO Recorder Powertoy doesn't work on SP2.
[12:35] <nrdb> xsane doesn't think my HP officeject 6110 is a supported device. can anyone help here?
[12:35] <DarkPixel> oh ok thx
[12:35] <DanaG> ANy input on the advantages of one or the other?
[12:35] <thundr> DarkPixel, otherwise, try K3B (it might be KDE-based, but I still like it)
[12:35] <DarkPixel> lol currently downloading windows xp sp2
[12:35] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:36] <pkrumins> will try ntfsclone the crashed hdd and then try to restore the image on the new hdd
[12:36] <frogzoo> DanaG: wtf is SP2 ? some kind of kde plugin?
[12:36] <DarkPixel> SP2 Service Pack 2 for windows
[12:36] <Fireclaw_> in xchat do i need to detach windows to have two open at the same time?
[12:36] <Caut> hello
[12:37] <frogzoo> DarkPixel: does it run under kde?
[12:37] <ompaul> !offtopic > DarkPixel
[12:37] <ompaul> frogzoo, please }:->
[12:37] <Caut> why cant i change resolution and where can i find ati drivers?
[12:37] <DarkPixel> No its for windows its like an upgrade
[12:37] <frogzoo> k, I'm out here - later
[12:37] <thundr> Fireclaw_, no.
[12:37] <ompaul> !ati > Caut
[12:37] <Fireclaw_> whats the trick then (and is this offtopic :D )
[12:37] <Caut> !ati
[12:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:37] <Caut> thnx
[12:38] <ompaul> Caut, I had the bot send you a message if you see !keyword then it is messaged to you
[12:38] <nrdb> Can someone help, I have a HP officeject 6110, I have installed the drivers, and can print but it isn't being reconised as a scanner device.
[12:38] <pkrumins> pfff, please run chkdsk on windows. i am doomed
[12:38] <thundr> Fireclaw_, oh, nevermind.  There might be a way, but I was thinking of that old windows IRC client mIRC.
[12:38] <pkrumins> windows says there was a super mega error and could not do anything.
[12:39] <DarkPixel> anyone know if i can burn iso to a dvd and it boot up with it its not a dvd iso but would it work?
[12:39] <DanaG> Is there an advanced-installer on the LiveDVD?
[12:39] <hussam> does bogofilter really work with ubuntu's evolution?
[12:39] <ah`oh`da> #
[12:39] <ah`oh`da> ops
[12:40] <Fireclaw_> thundr so im thinking i want to config my "perform" (in mIRC terms), how do i do that kind of thing with this xchat ?
[12:40] <thundr> nrdb, the last time I used a scanner was in Mandrake 7, and it had something to do with SANE then.  I'm afraid I can't help you.
[12:40] <ompaul> Fireclaw_, you can use perl or python to make it jump through hoops
[12:40] <orbin> DarkPixel: afaik, yes ... doesn't matter if it's a dvd or cd
[12:41] <Fireclaw_> well basically i just want new server window with this server, open a couple channels, new server window with that server, ident and open a couple of channels
[12:41] <Fireclaw_> doesnt seem to me like that requires a kickass scripter :P
[12:42] <DarkPixel> k thx
[12:42] <thundr> Fireclaw_, I'm not sure.  You could try joining #xchat, I'm sure they know a thing or two about it.
[12:42] <Fireclaw_> oh, right ^
[12:42] <Fireclaw_> ^_^
[12:42] <arto> CONFIG_AGP=m in my kernel configuration file. Should I set it to CONFIG_AGP=y ??
[12:44] <arto> CONFIG_AGP=m in my kernel configuration file. Should I set it to CONFIG_AGP=y ??
[12:45] <firstknight> Hi, I want to install webcam driver. Because of that, I need to know what gcc version is used to compile my current kernel. How do I know that?
[12:45] <ovidio> hi guys
[12:45] <ovidio> i need urgently help
[12:45] <ovidio> please
[12:45] <thundr> what do you need help with, ovidio?
[12:46] <IRCMonkeyX> what is equality of ipconfig in ubuntu ?
[12:46] <ovidio> i'm testing to install ubuntu dapper
[12:46] <ovidio> but i can't do it
[12:46] <orbin> IRCMonkeyX: ifconfig
[12:46] <ovidio> because the phase of apt configuration
[12:46] <Zooliegsm> hello....i looking for this gtk2 theme,but i cant find it...name is mockup 1.1 a link for it....http://topstyles.net/mockup-11/ pls help
[12:46] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, ifconfig ifup and ifdown -- you can do System Administration Networking for stuff also
[12:46] <Loevborg> Does anyone know in which package I can find vim's documentation? ":help" doesn't work.
[12:46] <ovidio> is almost freezed
[12:47] <ovidio> becuase all servers are unreachables
[12:47] <ovidio> can i kill apt-conf
[12:47] <nrdb> Hi I have a problem with xsane it isn't reconising  my HP officejet 6110 scanner, can someone help to get it working??
[12:47] <IRCMonkeyX> orbin: thanx
[12:47] <ovidio> and go away?
[12:47] <ompaul> ovidio, you can, would you be more comfortable in italian if so there is #ubuntu-it
[12:47] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: ifup ifdown ??
[12:48] <ovidio> thanks
[12:48] <IRCMonkeyX> !ifup
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about ifup - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:48] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, they take the connection down and up they take arguments of ethX where X is 0 or 1 according to which nic your dealing with
[12:48] <Zooliegsm> hello....i looking for this gtk2 theme,but i cant find it...name is mockup 1.1 a link for it....http://topstyles.net/mockup-11/ pls help
[12:48] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: what is the command ?
[12:48] <IRCMonkeyX> ifconfig -ifup??
[12:48] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, ifconfig tells you what you have
[12:49] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, much better if you tell us what you have and what you want to do
[12:49] <orbin> nrdb: dunno if this would help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28813&highlight=officejet+6110%5C
[12:49] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, the instruction manual for ifconfig contains 188 lines
[12:49] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: i just wanted to see my ip, than when u say about ifup and ifdown, i try to get those
[12:49] <miza> anyone got asus wl-107g working?
[12:50] <Rub3X``> can someone help me i have a gigabyte mobo GA-7N400 Pro2  and a DiamondMax Ultra series hdd and when i try and install ubuntu it freezes at the formatting part =(
[12:50] <nrdb> orbin: I will have a look
[12:50] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, to see it just do ifconfig and read the value against "ethX"
[12:50] <Caut> !ati
[12:50] <Dimitrije> Is fuse "REALLY, REALLY, VERY unstable", or it's just a warning some unexpected thing "might" happed?
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <ompaul> Dimitrije, if you can gamble your data do use it, if you can't don't
[12:50] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul:Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:D8:69:22:0D
[12:51] <firstknight> what version of gcc does dapper use to compile the kernel?
[12:51] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, second line
[12:51] <firstknight> is it 4.0?
[12:51] <Dimitrije> I copied one folder size 1.5gb and everything was fine...
[12:51] <hussam> Supposedly bogofilter works with evolution in ubuntu but it won't work for me. Can somebody help?
[12:51] <ompaul> gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[12:51] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: inet addr:a.b.c.d  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
[12:51] <gnomefreak> firstknight: no
[12:52] <gnomefreak> firstknight: gcc3.4 for dappers kernel iirc
[12:52] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, the numbers there are your ip
[12:52] <firstknight> gnomefreak, okay, thx
[12:52] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I thought it had moved on - woops
[12:52] <gnomefreak> iirc the kernel was done in 3.4 adn the apps were 4.0
[12:52] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: yes i know :) i was trying to know about ifup and ifdown
[12:52] <miza> i have Asus wl-107g, i have setup wep key and essid, when i do ifup ra0 it prints "DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255255255255 port 67 interval X" few times, then "No DHCPOFFERS received" and "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[12:52] <ompaul> gnomefreak, that was it for breezy but I thought with lts we moved to 4
[12:53] <miza> i mean "255.255.255.255
[12:53] <gnomefreak> apt-cache show <kernel>
[12:53] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, ifup is to bring a down nick up and ifdown is visa versa
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i might be backwards (im working on a not not water day
[12:53] <ompaul> gnomefreak, lets get confirmation
[12:53] <gnomefreak> s/not/no s/not/hot
[12:53] <DarkPixel> k when i reformated my drive it took off the partition boot anyway to just to p0ut that on there so i can get on my linux
[12:54] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: i couldnt understand, thanx anyways
[12:54] <gnomefreak> working on it
[12:54] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, ifdown eth0 brings the connection down
[12:54] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, ifup eth0 brings the connection up
[12:55] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: now i see, is there any danger to try ifdown now ?
[12:55] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, it takes your network down
[12:55] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: let me see :)
[12:55] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, if you don't understand dont do it
[12:56] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul : i understand, after ifdown, i will give command ifup, to get network again, single pc here
[12:56] <kidbuntu> what command do i type to know the version of my kernel?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> kidbuntu: uname -r
[12:57] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, the commands are very powerful - have a look at the output of >> man ifconfig << and the others to get a feeling for what your going to do
[12:57] <firstknight> cat /proc/version tells me gcc 4.0 is used to compile my dapper 686 kernel
[12:57] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: ok sir thanx
[12:57] <gnomefreak> firstknight: give us a min on that one
[12:58] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, less of the sir ;-)
[12:58] <firstknight> gnomefreak, okay.....
[12:58] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: lastly what can i use like babylon in ubuntu, sir :)
[12:58] <miza> i have Asus wl-107g, i have setup wep key and essid, when i do ifup ra0 it prints "DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval X" few times, then "No DHCPOFFERS received" and "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[12:58] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, I have no idea what babylon is - remember I know nothing (or almost nothing) about windows or the mac
[12:59] <daunt> yo
[12:59] <ompaul> miza, try "sudo dhclient" it is very krass but it might help
[12:59] <pezz> can anyone help me for setting up a modem connection? ;(
[12:59] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: online dictionary, when you middle click on word, it gives the meaning
[12:59] <miza> ompaul k
[12:59] <gnomefreak> my fault
[12:59] <IRCMonkeyX> pezz: what kind of modem ?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ompaul: and firstknight 4.0
[12:59] <pezz> sagem fast 800
[01:00] <pezz> i've installed it
[01:00] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, I use the gnome dictionary it is online - or install the terminal application "dict"
[01:00] <IRCMonkeyX> pezz: usb or ethernet adsl or ??
[01:00] <pezz> follow the tutorial, but i have some troubles
[01:00] <pezz> usb ;<
[01:00] <gnomefreak> but glibc was compilied with 3.4
[01:00] <daunt> two questions: i have an smb mount that i want to 'automatically re-mount itself' whenever the machine gets reset - in the process of development, this one server goes up and down every 4 or 5 minutes or so .. how do i tell /etc/fstab to refresh the mount?  (its already set up to mount just fine) .. question #two: on OSX there are apps like Launchbar and Quicksilver - is there something similar for Ubuntu?   Question 3: should i just use goog
[01:00] <daunt> le?
[01:00] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, there are too many ways to do it
[01:00] <usama> hi all
[01:00] <IRCMonkeyX> pezz: god with you, it is so bad usb modem
[01:00] <usama> !dma
[01:00] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[01:00] <pezz> http://payzee.free.fr/Capture-2.png
[01:01] <pezz> i'm at this point :<
[01:01] <IRCMonkeyX> pezz: eciadsl page may help you
[01:01] <IRCMonkeyX> !eciadsl
[01:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about eciadsl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:01] <gnomefreak> firstknight: http://blog.pcode.nl/?cat=3 look for title dappers glibc it will explain all
[01:01] <pezz> ok
[01:01] <ompaul> daunt, part two no idea, part one - I strongly suggest that you create a cron jobbed daemon that works ever minute to check of for the mount and if not mounted to try
[01:01] <kliklik> I've set up something like this in my /etc/fstab: /media/storage/windows.dd /media/c ntfs user,noauto 0 0 but I still can't mount it with non-root. Anyone care to help?
[01:02] <ompaul> daunt, that is way beyond the scope of what I would try to demonstrate in the channe;
[01:02] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: can i install it from synaptic, i wanna use offline
[01:02] <IRCMonkeyX> not online
[01:02] <daunt> ompaul, you're kidding me .. use crond to do it?  isn't there some samba refresh parameter that i can add to make it timeout/reconnect after a minute or so?
[01:02] <miza> ompaul, it prints ra0: unknown hardware address type 801, but lspci -v detects it fine
[01:02] <daunt> i don't like the crond idea.  i think thats a bit whack.  but i appreciate the line of thought.
[01:03] <ompaul> daunt, well it is how you are "sure" if there is a smb way of doing it enjoy
[01:03] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, there is the terminal version called dict
[01:04] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: how to use it ? what command pls ?
[01:04] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, install dict use dict in a terminal
[01:04] <daunt> i really thought that there were parms to smbmnt that could be used to tweak the timeout/reconnect rates .. i guess i'll have to study a bit myself.  thanks tho' ..
[01:04] <daunt> and nobody knows of a launchbar/quicksilver type app for ubuntu?
[01:04] <ompaul> !wireless > miza
[01:04] <nny> is there a way to confirm smp is working on a kernel?
[01:05] <nny> er that an smp kernel is installed at least
[01:05] <bimberi> nny, uname -r
[01:05] <ompaul> miza, sorry was not paying enough attention to realise that was wireless - the bot has sent you the "wireless" link I know nothing of wireless
[01:06] <nny> bimberi heh ok so no
[01:06] <miza> ompaul, ok
[01:06] <nny> bimberi any chance you would know how to tell aptitude "do NOT install package X when doing Y?
[01:06] <asdf25> so i'm trying out a bunch of different gtk2 themes, and they change a bunch of stuff, but my gtk buttons always stay the same, where they're white and become shiny with orange thing around them when mouse is over them... anyone know why?
[01:06] <bimberi> nny: sorry i don't :|
[01:08] <ashridah> hey. anyone know which package contains the texinfo documentation for glibc? for some reason, it doesn't appear to be in glibc-doc
[01:08] <chamo> hello
[01:11] <nny> wow having to run around my ahole to get to my elbow
[01:11] <chamo> Ubuntu 64 with an AMD 64 freeze after login...
[01:11] <IRCMonkeyX> ompaul: when i say ifconfig, it shows my ip as 10.0.x.x , but in fact my ip is 85.100.y.y how does it happen ? there is a redirecting ?
[01:11] <nny> why do package managers always seem to miss the mark by so little?
[01:12] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, that is your local network redirecting
[01:12] <nny> IRCMonkeyX yeah thats your public IP, your network has a NAT layer between it and the world that handles the local 10.0.x.x subnet
[01:13] <Dimitrije> !nvidia
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <chamo> !amd
[01:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about amd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:13] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: do people  see 10.0.x.x or 85.100.y.y from remote ?
[01:13] <chamo> !64
[01:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about 64 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:13] <chamo> !amd64
[01:13] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[01:14] <nny> IRCMonkeyX the 10.0.x.x. is a public IP class (one of three) that allows for private networks to not use the public IP space
[01:14] <nny> IRCMonkeyX always the 85.100.y.y
[01:14] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: what command to see from terminal 85.100.y.y , because i cant see by ifconfig
[01:14] <nny> IRCMonkeyX if the tried to get to the 10.0 address, they'd get blocked by 90% of big iron routers, as they block PFC addressing to keep certain attacks at bay
[01:14] <Snake007uk> hey guys, anyone got bluetooth working ona toshiba M3 ?
[01:14] <warlock> anyone know where I can get glibc 2.4 ?
[01:15] <nny> IRCMonkeyX try traceroute www.google.com
[01:15] <kliklik> Anyone knows how to fix "mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop#" when mount -o loop with a non-root user?
[01:15] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: i know traceroute, but i ask the command in ubuntu, it is tracert in xp
[01:15] <nny> IRCMonkeyX it should say something like ***** 10.0.0.1 , then ***** 85.100.X.X as it traces your route from your PC to google
[01:16] <nny> IRCMonkeyX its "traceroute"
[01:16] <warlock> Anyone know how to install glibc 2.4 ? :(
[01:17] <warlock> mkbnetgamezone01:/home/glibc-2.4# ./configure --build=BUILD
[01:17] <warlock> configure: error: you must configure in a separate build directory
[01:17] <warlock> Anyone? I cant seem to install glibc, I needed to configure it, but I dont get it..
[01:17] <nny> IRCMonkeyX you have a broswer available?
[01:18] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: yes i have firefox
[01:18] <nny> IRCMonkeyX you can also google for "What is my IP" and click (make sure you follow the link) to see what your public IP is...
[01:18] <munsa> hello
[01:18] <thundr> warlock, I had that same problem, but I don't remember how I fixed it
[01:18] <munsa> Hey, Can anyone tell me how I check for Updates?
[01:18] <nny> IRCMonkeyX if I wasn't stuck in a terminal with BitchX IRC, I would just check in the client to see your IP :\
[01:18] <chamo> munsa: open a console and type :    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:18] <warlock> thundr :(
[01:19] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: it says comman not found for traceroute ??
[01:19] <nny> IRCMonkeyX so it does, try tracepath
[01:19] <thundr> nny, also, the update-notifier can do it for you
[01:19] <nny> IRCMonkeyX tab complete is a blessing
[01:19] <bimberi> munsa: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[01:19] <nny> thundr interessant
[01:19] <munsa> thanks
[01:19] <munsa> Appriciate it
[01:20] <nny> IRCMonkeyX just google for "what is my IP"
[01:20] <CarinArr> ircmonkeyx, try traceroute6
[01:20] <thundr> sorry nny I need sleep :)
[01:20] <warlock> is where way to "search" for an package in ubuntu? ex apt-get search GLIBC 2.3.2
[01:20] <bimberi> IRCMonkeyX: http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[01:20] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: i know google thing, just trying to learn from terminal
[01:20] <munsa> Can anyone suggest any really good Programs I cant live without? I want to raid the reposatory today and get all kinda good stuff but I dont know what I should get.
[01:20] <CarinArr> munsa, subversion
[01:21] <gnomefreak> warlock: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search glibc
[01:21] <munsa> subversion?
[01:21] <chamo> munsa: maybe put the two commands on separate lines
[01:21] <thundr> munsa, there's tons of great stuff on there
[01:21] <IRCMonkeyX> CarinArr: traceroute6 is ok, thanx
[01:21] <ompaul> IRCMonkeyX, the thing is you have computer | --- device | intenet the device does the translation
[01:21] <nny> IRCMonkeyX eh ok well then yeah traceroute6 should be cool
[01:21] <noobcoder> can some one pm me if the know how to set up my apache2 to be viewed out side my local network
[01:21] <munsa> thundr I know! thats the problem
[01:21] <munsa> There iss o much cool stuff I dunno where to start
[01:21] <munsa> oh
[01:21] <CarinArr> munsa, heh, it's for version control, very handy;)
[01:21] <thundr> chamo, I always do dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade
[01:21] <munsa> what about a .FLV player for linux
[01:21] <CarinArr> munsa, obviously it dpeends what sort of work you do tho;)
[01:21] <thundr> munsa, I think VLC can do that
[01:22] <ompaul> noobcoder, tell your router to port forward 80 to the machine on the local lan that has the apache on it
[01:22] <chamo> munsa: you can create your own swf flash player for FLV files!
[01:22] <chamo> (just an idea)
[01:22] <subpar> any suggestions for an rss reader?
[01:22] <IRCMonkeyX> nny: tracepath is ok too:)
[01:22] <chamo> subpar: www.netvibes.com :)
[01:22] <nny> IRCMonkeyX need to check it out myself :)
[01:22] <subpar> thank you
[01:23] <IRCMonkeyX> :)
[01:23] <warlock> mkbnetgamezone01:/home/glibc-2.4# ./configure
[01:23] <warlock> configure: error: you must configure in a separate build directory
[01:23] <warlock> Anyone ? trying to install glibc.
[01:23] <nny> IRCMonkeyX another good way from term is just to ssh into a remote box, it'll tell you what your public IP is either with "who" or at the system prompt
[01:23] <Caut> Im trying to mount a HDD but Linux doesnt see it, ive tried everything in !ntfs
[01:23] <nny> "6 thousand ways to skin a cat"
[01:24] <warlock> anyone? err :(
[01:24] <subpar> err, I already have something like that with google homepage, I meant more of a program
[01:24] <chamo> subpar: you can register/login then add your own RSS feeds easy with other of usefull tools (gmail, mails, weather, etc...)
[01:24] <subpar> yeah
[01:24] <munsa> AAhhhh What about something that I can really customize Gnome with? I mean change the window colors ect. Just wack the hell out of it change whatever I want? IS there some kinda too for that?
[01:24] <thundr> Caut, isn't the command just sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 ?
[01:24] <chamo> I use that for my home, lovely :)
[01:24] <IRCMonkeyX> ssh works too
[01:24] <subpar> I looked like that awhile back
[01:24] <subpar> at that rather
[01:25] <Caut> yes thundr
[01:25] <Caut> but i dont know what name it is
[01:25] <Caut> since i cant see it
[01:25] <Caut> i have 2 hdd's
[01:25] <subpar> it looks a lot better than google homepage though
[01:25] <Caut> one primary
[01:25] <Caut> and one slave
[01:25] <subpar> I think you just switched my homepage :)
[01:25] <Caut> and linux does not see the slave
[01:26] <chamo> cool :)
[01:26] <munsa> What do you guys thing? Something to edit Gnome? A gui editor? Where I can change all the clors and just hack it up?
[01:26] <thundr> munsa, try www.gnome-look.org
[01:27] <thundr> munsa, you can make gnome look just like OS X if you wish
[01:27] <petduo> I use a PS2 mouse and yesterday I changed my mouse for another PS2 mouse, whithout restarting X, the mouse worked fine. Today when I rebooted my PC, the new PS2 mouse is not working, tried mdetect and other things without success. Can anyone help me?
[01:28] <munsa> Thundr How? ( not that I want to ) but I would like to do things like... change window colors, change transparencys ect...
[01:28] <thundr> Caut, me too, so if you have created the /media/windows directory then just "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/windows"?  Have you tried that?
[01:28] <warlock> how to remove a dir again? gah
[01:28] <munsa> rm -i dir
[01:28] <soundray> petduo: have you checked the connection? Hotplugging PS2 devices is not recommended, btw.
[01:28] <bimberi> warlock: rmdir (if it's empty) rm -r (if it's not)
[01:28] <thundr> munsa, I believe the site has directions for the various ways you can do it
[01:28] <petduo> soundray, yes, the same mouse worked yesterday
[01:28] <chamo> mmh
[01:29] <munsa> ok thanks
[01:29] <warlock> cheers
[01:29] <soundray> petduo: have you checked the connection?
[01:29] <petduo> soundray, what do you mean by checking the connection?
[01:29] <soundray> petduo: see if the plug is still snug in the socket.
[01:29] <petduo> soundray, if its successfully plugged?
[01:29] <thundr> munsa, come back if you have any questions :)
[01:29] <warlock> Does ANYONE know how to install glibc ?
[01:29] <petduo> petduo, sure, im not so newbie :)
[01:29] <munsa> thundr, thanks man
[01:30] <nny> warlock sorry bro, done it before on other systems, in temr can't google to refresh memory
[01:30] <warlock> gah
[01:30] <warlock> was it hard or what? :/
[01:30] <Caut> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[01:30] <warlock> configure: error: you must configure in a separate build directory
[01:30] <warlock> err :( all I get.
[01:30] <petduo> what I can do to detect a new PS2 mouse?
[01:31] <acojlo> anyone use amilo pro 2030 ?
[01:31] <soundray> petduo: restart X
[01:31] <Caut> thundr: mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[01:31] <petduo> soundray, tried it already
[01:31] <petduo> soundray, tried mdetect too
[01:32] <thundr> Caut, do you have more than one partition on the slave?
[01:32] <chamo> MP-BIOS bug : 8254 : timer not connected to IO-APIC
[01:32] <Jukru> petduo: reconfigure x
[01:32] <Caut> thundr yes
[01:32] <petduo> soundray, tried apt-get reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:32] <DarkPixel> yo what can i use to unrar rar files
[01:32] <noobcoder> hey guys(gals) im in bit of a bind i need to get my site up by 10am pt so if some one dosent mind help me trobble shot plz pm me
[01:32] <asdf25> i'm trying to use gtk2 themes but all the control images (buttons, scrollbars, etc) stay the same (the themes have images for those but they're not getting used)... anyone know why?
[01:32] <chamo> what's the param to install Ubuntu on non-IDE hard drive on cd boot again ?
[01:32] <soundray> Caut: have you set the jumpers on the drives?
[01:32] <nny> warlock it was on a RH system, but yeah, it was a lil tricky..
[01:32] <pezzz> anyone around owning a sagem fast800 ?
[01:32] <thundr> Caut, can the bios detect the drive as a slave?
[01:32] <nny> warlock hopefully it has gotten easier since
[01:32] <nny> warlock you try google yet?
[01:33] <soundray> petduo: I think your new mouse is broken.
[01:33] <DarkPixel> Whats something good fro rar files?
[01:33] <Caut> soundray: yes, and it does detect it, i can work with the HDD in windows
[01:33] <nny> warlock something like "ubuntu install glibc [ver] 
[01:33] <soundray> !rar
[01:33] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:33] <petduo> soundray, no, as I said before, it worked yesterday
[01:33] <acojlo> anyone have succes with suspend2ram with via chipsets?
[01:33] <Caut> thundr and it does detect it, i can work with the HDD in windows
[01:34] <noobcoder> hey guys(gals) im in bit of a bind i need to get my site up by 10am pt so if some one dosent mind helping plz pm me
[01:34] <soundray> petduo: it is possible that your mouse was destroyed by the hotplugging, possibly through a delayed effect. Try it on another machine.
[01:34] <ulises77> alguien habla espaol?
[01:34] <soundray> DarkPixel: ^^
[01:34] <soundray> !es
[01:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:34] <fivre> !es
[01:34] <petduo> soundray, ok
[01:35] <nny> craptastic
[01:35] <noobcoder> can some one pm me if the know how to set up my apache2 to be viewed out side my local network?
[01:35] <nny> dpkg -i package one* wants package two* and visa versa.. stupid stupid
[01:35] <soundray> Caut: have you tried 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[01:35] <petduo> soundray, damn... now I get a segmentation fault when I start ubuntu
[01:35] <noobcoder> so thst some one can enter my ip an go to my sit
[01:35] <Caut> soundray: it does see the HDD in the device manager
[01:36] <Caut> soundray: can i do something with it from there?
[01:36] <nny> ok so anyone here wanna help me figure out how to install a kernel with apt WITHOUT installing nvidia kernel common?
[01:36] <soundray> Caut: try the fdisk -l -- it should tell you what the device names of the partitions are on both disks (evidently hdb1 was not the correct one)
[01:36] <pezzz> anyone around owning a sagem fast800 ?
[01:36] <noobcoder> can some one pm me if the know how to set up my apache2 to be viewed out side my local network?
[01:37] <noobcoder> so thst some one can enter my ip an go to my sit
[01:37] <DarkPixel> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:37] <DarkPixel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:37] <DarkPixel> is only available from another source
[01:37] <DarkPixel> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[01:37] <soundray> pezzz: don't repeat -- rephrase.
[01:37] <DarkPixel> im getting an error
[01:37] <soundray> DarkPixel: do *not* paste errors here.
[01:37] <noobcoder> can any one help me?
[01:37] <DarkPixel> where to paste then
[01:37] <soundray> DarkPixel: are you on breezy or dapper?
[01:37] <DarkPixel> dapper
[01:37] <pezzz> soundray maybe if i already had one answer...
[01:38] <soundray> pezzz: describe your problem.
[01:38] <thundr> DarkPixel, from the topic: Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:38] <pezzz> i have some problem for configuring my connection
[01:38] <pezzz> the modem is installed tho
[01:38] <nny> ping mailo.adelphia.net
[01:39] <nny> oops
[01:39] <pezzz> soundray: http://payzee.free.fr/Capture-2.png
[01:39] <pezzz> that's where i get blocked
[01:39] <Caut> !paste
[01:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:40] <soundray> pezzz: you're still a bit vague -- what are you trying to do?
[01:40] <pezzz> just trying to connect
[01:40] <bimberi> noobcoder: forward port 80 on your router to the address of the box running apache2
[01:40] <DarkPixel> here soundray heres my error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19677
[01:40] <Caut> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/196788 <[01:40] <soundray> !info unrar
[01:40] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:41] <azzurri> need help
[01:41] <azzurri> opening files in ubuntu
[01:41] <nny> azzurri specific?
[01:41] <nny> azzurri hmm go on
[01:41] <azzurri> i downloaded the latest ati drivers
[01:41] <soundray> DarkPixel: have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[01:42] <nny> azzurri and?
[01:42] <azzurri> i go to click on it and it wont load... how to you do it ( i saved the driver on my desktop)
[01:42] <DarkPixel> no clue how may i do this?
[01:42] <Caut> !ati
[01:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <Dimitrije> Why this? gtk+ >= 2.6 not found.
[01:42] <nny> azzurri sh ./ATI-PAIN IN THE ARSE DRIVERS in terminal
[01:42] <noobcoder> bimberi: iv done that whole 80 80    192.168.1.109
[01:42] <nny> azzurri from desktop dir
[01:43] <nny> azzurri so terminal >>> cd Desktop >>> sh ./ATI PIA DRIVERS
[01:43] <soundray> !language >nny
[01:43] <DarkPixel> Soundray how may i go about doing that?
[01:43] <derek> alrighty i have a question i just got my new laptop its an hp dv8000t and i want to keep windows on it and dual boot w/ ubuntu
[01:43] <azzurri> ok wait ill go try now
[01:43] <soundray> !repos >DarkPixel
[01:43] <derek> but when i tried to resize the partition
[01:43] <nny> soundray eh.. thought i was being pg 13, work on that
[01:43] <derek> it woiuldnt do it
[01:43] <Dimitrije> derek, just install ubuntu and you will have dual boot.
[01:43] <Dimitrije> Oh...
[01:43] <nny> hmm
[01:43] <nny> ! real help
[01:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about real help - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:44] <nny> figures...
[01:44] <derek> i i tried open suse also
[01:44] <thundr> derek, did it give an error?
[01:44] <derek> yes
[01:44] <azzurri> ok it started working
[01:44] <vprajan> is that possible to find the speed in which cp command works?..
[01:44] <azzurri> then all of a sudden it stopped and said i need to run it from super user :S
[01:44] <nny> azzurri sweet... you are either close to being done or in for a long trip
[01:44] <azzurri> i installed ubuntu today..
[01:44] <thundr> derek, what was the error?
[01:45] <nny> azzurri may want to try to search the ubuntu forums for ATI drivers install
[01:45] <derek> ummmm i dont remember exactly
[01:45] <derek> it didnt give me any information
[01:45] <nny> azzurri specifically "fglrx"
[01:45] <derek> i think im going to have to get a new harddrive
[01:45] <derek> im hoping not
[01:45] <azzurri> i cant install it until im a super user
[01:45] <nny> azzurri it can be.. a real experience.. although gentoo install = 2 days, ubuntu 2 hours to 10 minutes
[01:45] <azzurri> how do i become a superuser
[01:45] <soundray> vprajan: no, but rsync reports speed if you ask it to
[01:46] <Dimitrije> Why this? gtk+ >= 2.6 not found.
[01:46] <nny> azzurri oops put "sudo" in front of the sh command
[01:46] <thundr> derek, almost certainly not, unless you're having problems in windows
[01:46] <soundray> vprajan: you may also find hdparm -tT /dev/hda useful
[01:46] <azzurri> ok wait i be back in a sec
[01:47] <nny> so... apt.. restict package... good lord.. shoot me..
[01:47] <derek> thundr: could they do anything hardware wise to stop me from messing w/ the partitions
[01:47] <dapet> What command do you use, to tjek what device you have in what USB port?
[01:47] <nny> dapet lsusb
[01:47] <dapet> thanks :D
[01:48] <nny> i am hoping if i help enough people the gods will grant me a person who knows aptitude/ubuntu well enough to figure out how to block a package
[01:48] <thundr> derek, well, you could put an additional hard drive in there, then all you would have to do would be to format that drive, but it should work.
[01:48] <ThunderStruck> nny: i havent yet seen you say what the issue is
[01:48] <noobcoder> iv done that whole 80 80    192.168.1.109 and i still cant get my server on the internet
[01:48] <ogamiitto> hi, i had a defective hard disk which contained all my ubuntu install, today i've received the replacement drive that is bigger than the defective one, how can i transfer the ubuntu install (presumably with dd) from one disk to another?
[01:49] <nny> ThunderStruck er ok.. trying to install kernel, apt wants to install nvida-kernel-common as well
[01:49] <ThunderStruck> nny: welcomet o dapper
[01:49] <ThunderStruck> s/o
[01:49] <ThunderStruck> s/o/to
[01:49] <eXistenZ> ubuntu is dying
[01:49] <nny> noobcoder your ISP may block port 80
[01:50] <ThunderStruck> nny: dapper kernel comes with nvidia you might bealb eto by pass that using package.ubuntu.com
[01:50] <nny> noobcoder mine does :\
[01:50] <azzurri> how do i install things with the box icon
[01:50] <azcazandc1> can anyone tell me how I get my top edge panel back?  I tried to remove a panel but it removed the whole damn thing
[01:50] <azzurri> programs that have the brown box how do you install those
[01:50] <soundray> ogamiitto: if the drive is really broken, I suggest you do a fresh install on the new disk, mount your old disk from the new installation, and copy everything that you still need with cp or rsync
[01:50] <ThunderStruck> azzurri: right clikc and add panel
[01:50] <nny> ThunderStruck so is there another way to install nvidia binary?
[01:50] <ThunderStruck> nny: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:51] <azcazandc1> I have lost the whole top navigation bar so I cannot rright click on it
[01:51] <nny> ThunderStruck er binary prorietary drivers, not package :\
[01:51] <vprajan> soundray: thx.. iam creating an OS installer.. the installer copies a tar file into the filesystem using cpio.. while copying is on, i want to find the speed of transfer and Estimated Time...
[01:51] <ThunderStruck> azzurri: i didnt say right click on it. right click where it used to be
[01:51] <nny> ThunderStruck using laptop, package breaks ctral alt ttyX and hibernate (black screen)
[01:51] <nikin> can someone help me, yesterday i setuped samba and it wen well
[01:51] <vprajan> soundray: will this be possible.. i have already say an installer of FreeBSD doing this..
[01:51] <eXistenZ> What is the birthdate of ubuntu?
[01:51] <nikin> today i tried to use it, and its not seening my computer
[01:52] <ThunderStruck> nny: that im not sure of but there should be instructions on nvidia site
[01:52] <ogamiitto> soundray, it was working, just bad performance (i/o) errors, I really want to avoid install + customizing, any clues?
[01:52] <nikin> i used /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:52] <nikin> but didnt help
[01:52] <soundray> vprajan: I'm not aware of a solution to that. Doesn't mean that it's impossible -- perhaps ask again
[01:52] <kidbuntu> are the servers in ubuntu are becoming slow??
[01:52] <nny> ThunderStruck gah... yeah.. they are around, but you need to remove any old nvidia packages (including the one that apt wants to install with new kernel)
[01:53] <azcazandc1> any hints anyone as I can't even get to my applications menu  :(
[01:53] <ThunderStruck> nny: correct hence the reason i suggested getting it from package.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <jonah1980> hi does anyone know how i delete a printer out of the list in gimp?
[01:54] <J_P> hi all
[01:54] <chamo> mmmh cannot install Ubuntu on the SATA computer. Any info ?
[01:54] <goonies> has someone got their WUSB54G Wirless Adapter to work =\
[01:54] <soundray> ogamiitto: if you can still boot the old install, I would use tar to copy the entire root system.
[01:54] <goonies> version 4 that is
[01:55] <soundray> ogamiitto: assuming that hda1 is the old root, and hdb1 is the target for the new root, you would do something like:
[01:55] <kidbuntu> why is my download rate from ubuntu is very slow. but whenever i test my bandwith. its very fast?
[01:55] <soundray> ogamiitto: hold on - I've had a change of heart...
[01:55] <soundray> ogamiitto: do you have a live CD?
[01:56] <Warbo> chamo: Is it a problem with the drivers themselves (drive doesn't even appear in System>Admin>Disks) or just the installer?
[01:56] <chamo> ubuntu cd boot doesnt start... it hangs at "mounting root file system..."
[01:57] <chamo> I need to add a param to the boot... tried noapic and nolapic but no success
[01:57] <Warbo> chamo: The LiveCD or some custom CD?
[01:57] <chamo> liveCD
[01:57] <soundray> chamo: is that a SATA CD drive?
[01:57] <chamo> and the drive works
[01:57] <chamo> it's SATA yes
[01:57] <Warbo> Ah, was assuming a SATA HD :)
[01:57] <chamo> oooh no
[01:58] <chamo> SATA HD
[01:58] <chamo> IDE CD
[01:58] <chamo> ;)
[01:58] <soundray> chamo: I don't think this is a SATA problem. Have you set the jumpers correctly on the CD drive?
[01:59] <nny_> sigh
[01:59] <nny_> ThunderStruck so... um.. i have tried the method you suggested previous
[01:59] <chamo> yeah the drive is working with AMD 64 bits... but as it doesnt work well, I need to reinstall the 32 bits version (fresh install)
[01:59] <nny_> ThunderStruck no love.. so .. um thanks.. but i am gonna say this isn't specific to ubntu, my apt has a piece of bad juju
[02:00] <ogamiitto> soundray,yes
[02:00] <munsa> Hello Does anyone know what SDL is? And how do I get it?
[02:00] <ogamiitto> i have last ubuntu
[02:00] <soundray> chamo: have you checked that the CD burnt all right?
[02:00] <munsa> I keep getting this error when I try to install a game - SDL version 1.1.5 not found!
[02:00] <Warbo> Do I need anything other than Realplayer 10 to watch rm files in Totem gstreamer? (I also have w32codecs)
[02:00] <azzurri> how do i install .deb files
[02:01] <thundr> nny_, strange, I've never had a problem with apt to the point of it breaking my system.  RPM, on the other hand...what a nightmare.
[02:01] <chamo> yes I install the laptop as well fine...
[02:01] <aladds> munsa, open synaptic and do a search
[02:01] <Warbo> munsa: Single Directmedia Layer, it is used for graphics and stuff
[02:01] <nny_> thundr yeah been there too
[02:01] <chamo> i think im just missing the right command line for it to work with SATA
[02:01] <Warbo> munsa: Look for some -dev packages
[02:01] <soundray> ogamiitto: have you partitioned the new drive?
[02:01] <azzurri> how do you install the programs that have the box icone on it i dont know how to
[02:01] <nny_> thundr its not really breaking the system, i just am trying to use nvidia's drivers as opposed to packages
[02:01] <chamo> I mean, the cd worked well on other installs
[02:01] <ogamiitto> soundray, no
[02:01] <ogamiitto> just i've installed
[02:01] <Warbo> azzurri: Double click? (Gdebi should open)
[02:02] <azzurri> ?
[02:02] <nny_> it's sad, cause the problem exists with the system trying to save me from myself, as opposed to doing what i tell it
[02:02] <ogamiitto> but i haven't touched it
[02:02] <Warbo> (if they are .deb)
[02:02] <azzurri> yeh but and error comes up when trying to open
[02:02] <thundr> nny_, doesn't nvidia have binary drivers as packages in multiverse or something?
[02:02] <nny_> azzurri you still trying to install ati drivers?
[02:02] <soundray> chamo: you haven't got a SATA problem. If the CD boot hangs at mounting the root partition, that root partition is the temporary one which is loaded from CD.
[02:02] <azzurri> not any more thanks alot you saved me :)
[02:02] <azzurri> now i need to no how to install my msn..
[02:02] <nny_> thundr maybe.. i haven't seen them with search yet, and i have MV enabled
[02:02] <Warbo> azzurri: Is it opening in Gdebi or File Roller (the archive manager)
[02:02] <Warbo> ?
[02:02] <chamo> mmmh
[02:02] <azzurri> and i dont know how to coz its the boxed icon one and when i click on it it doesnt load
[02:03] <nny_> thundr i would rather compile with the installer, this laptop doesn't like those drivers much, it works, but breaks things
[02:03] <azzurri> nop not opening in none of them
[02:03] <thundr> ok
[02:03] <dapet> I trie to install ndiswrapper (again) and I see that there are MANY netgear WG111 v2 adapters, hvow do I know what is my adapter?! (I looked all the papers I have about my adapter thrugh, nothing there)?
[02:03] <Warbo> azzurri: You can always do it the manual way, in a terminal
[02:03] <azzurri> how do i do that
[02:03] <chamo> what else can it be ?
[02:03] <nny_> dapet lspci lsusb?
[02:03] <aladds> azzurri, which version of ubuntu do you have?
[02:03] <Warbo> Applications>Accessories>Terminal then type (with the .deb file in your home folder) "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[02:03] <azzurri> 6.06
[02:03] <soundray> ogamiitto: you should create the partitions you want on the new disk. Do it from your old system or from the live CD - it doesn't matter. I recommend gparted. Make sure you have ext3 filesystems on the target, and that there is a swap partition, too.
[02:04] <aladds> azzurri, what is the name of the package?
[02:04] <chamo> ?
[02:04] <azzurri> amsn.deb
[02:04] <Warbo> !info amsn
[02:04] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[02:04] <gilianima> where is there root directory for vsFTPd ?
[02:04] <soundray> ogamiitto: then, in the live system, create mountpoints for the old root and the empty ext3 which you want as the new root.
[02:04] <Warbo> !tell azzurri about universe
[02:04] <nny_> azzurri try gaim?
[02:04] <Warbo> azzurri: It is already in Ubuntu :)
[02:04] <azzurri> yeh but i donbt like gaim
[02:05] <azzurri> i loke amsn
[02:05] <soundray> ogamiitto: 'sudo mkdir /media/oldroot ; sudo mkdir /media/newroot'
[02:05] <nny_> azzurri (not trying to sway your pick, just a suggestion)
[02:05] <azzurri> *like
[02:05] <nny_> azzurri roger
[02:05] <chamo> ubuntu install boot Mounting root file hang... googling it...
[02:05] <aladds> azzurri, if you open synaptic, add the universe repository, resync and then search for amsn it should be there
[02:05] <Warbo> azzurri: Did you get a message from ubotu?
[02:05] <dapet> nny: Tried that, it only says netgear WG111 v2 :(
[02:05] <soundray> ogamiitto: assuming that the old root is on /dev/hda1 and the target is /dev/hdb1, do a 'mount /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot ; mount /dev/hdb1 /media/newroot'
[02:05] <nny_> ok .. guess i am gonna just have to deal with these issues with nvidia for now.. this is sad... lame aptitude/apt-get
[02:06] <nny_> dapet hmm what more could you want?
[02:06] <Daarius> hello
[02:06] <azzurri> so in terminal i type sudo amsn.deb?
[02:06] <Warbo> azzurri: No, scratch that
[02:06] <chamo> azzurri: sudo apt-get install amsn
[02:06] <Warbo> azzurri: Go in System>Administration>Software Properties
[02:06] <azzurri> k
[02:06] <soundray> ogamiitto: then the copying command: '(cd /media/oldroot && tar cf - . ) | (cd /media/newroot && tar xf - )'
[02:06] <chamo> lol
[02:06] <chamo> okay
[02:06] <chamo> I got more error message on boot
[02:07] <ogamiitto> aha
[02:07] <soundray> ogamiitto: the tar ensures that all your device special files are transferred as they are.
[02:07] <chamo> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[02:07] <chamo> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:07] <goonies> does anyone know why when i put in a blank dvdr and i right click on an iso file and select burn image it doesnt specify the right burning speeds supported by the dvdr, the lowest speed available is 12x
[02:07] <ogamiitto> ok
[02:07] <soundray> ogamiitto: 'cp -a' should work, too, but it's less reliable than the command above.
[02:08] <Warbo> What do I need to play realmedia files in Totem gstreamer? I have gstreamer plugins (good, bad, ugly and multiverse), realplayer 10 and w32codecs. Totem gives an error
[02:08] <ogamiitto> soundray, looks good
[02:08] <dapet> nny: Se this http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List ther are like 10 of those :(
[02:08] <nny_> is there a seperate dapper channel
[02:08] <nny_> dapet  nope stuck in terminal
[02:08] <soundray> nny_: you are in it
[02:08] <ogamiitto> soundray,let's do it, thanks for all
[02:08] <Warbo> nny_: Dapper is the main Ubuntu release at the moment. There is a seperate Edgy channel
[02:08] <orbin> Warbo: iirc, don't you need totem-xine for w32codecs?
[02:08] <chamo> soundray: any idea ?
[02:09] <chamo> Warbo maybe ?
[02:09] <nny_> Warbo so who do i talk to about this issue?
[02:09] <nny_> Warbo getting tired of hearing myself complain
[02:09] <Warbo> orbin: I don't know, I just prefer gstreamer over xine, but it doesn'y play (I installed anything I thought would work)
[02:09] <drasko> hi all. I am looking at sources for my distro and I can see linux directory, and within it drivers/i2c/... and so on. I need some i2c driver, especially i2c-s3c2410.c, and corresponding i2c-s3c2410.h. Whaere I can find these on the kernel.org repository? I am a bit confused, please help...
[02:09] <soundray> chamo: no, sorry, that doesn't look at all familiar
[02:09] <chamo> okay I'll dig into it ^^
[02:09] <Warbo> chamo: Never seen that message before
[02:10] <nny_> .....
[02:10] <dapet> nny: Okay... But I need another vertion name (i dont know why thay have two) :(
[02:10] <nny_> dapet eh?
[02:10] <nny_> dapet you trying to get the netgear drivers for ndiswrapper?
[02:11] <dapet> nny: yes
[02:11] <Warbo> Totem says "Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem" when I click play
[02:11] <dapet> nny: I need it to know how to install
[02:11] <Opinie> Hi I got a question that might be really really noobish, but I still have to ask it since I have no experience at all about mac's... and here is the question: Can I put ubuntu on a mac without problems?
[02:11] <nny_> brb
[02:11] <Warbo> Then asks me to file a bug report
[02:11] <dapet> nny: ndistwrapper
[02:12] <orbin> Warbo: what does gstreamer offer over xine?  isn't it just the backend?
[02:12] <soundray> drasko: that driver is part of the ubuntu kernel source. Do 'sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15' and you'll find it in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/drivers/i2c/busses/
[02:12] <Warbo> orbin: Yes, but I just have a subconcious hatred for Xine. Maybe because of Gxine....
[02:12] <Dimitrije> !nvidia
[02:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:13] <Opinie> anybody?
[02:13] <IdleOne> Opinie, you should be able to get it to work. there is a mac Version of Ubuntu
[02:13] <soundray> Opinie: depends on how old it is. 68k -- no chance. PPC from G3 -- probably fine. Everything in between -- need to try
[02:13] <orbin> Warbo: so it's just realmedia giving you issues?
[02:13] <Warbo> orbin: I'll install totem-xine then, just that gstreamer is supposed to be the future. Doesn't look like we're there yet though. (Realplayer itself acts really badly on my machine, so I need totem or similar)
[02:13] <eternaljoy> I have installed Java, but when I run frostwire it says: You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x!  What can I do?
[02:14] <Warbo> eternaljoy: "sudo update-alternatives --config java" I think
[02:14] <Warbo> eternaljoy: I use "galternatives" myself
[02:15] <eternaljoy> Warbo: ok
[02:15] <Warbo> I'm getting Gxine (even though I hate it) so at least Totem can use gstreamer for everything else
[02:16] <eternaljoy> Warbo: sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[02:16] <Dimitrije> !pastebin
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:16] <Warbo> eternaljoy: That was from memory
[02:16] <Opinie> soundray: I don't think the one I'm talking about since I'm just thinking about buying it, but it shouldn't bee to difficult to get the ubuntu working with mac right?
[02:16] <Warbo> eternaljoy: There is a gui for it, called galternatives that you can install
[02:16] <nny_> i want to freaking scream
[02:16] <Warbo> eternaljoy: Basically you have multiple Java versions on your machine, so you need to set the default to Sun rather than GCJ
[02:17] <soundray> Opinie: with the recent Intel-based Macs, it is still difficult. But possible... found a report recently, hold on...
[02:17] <eternaljoy> Warbo: i typed your command, and it gives me 3 options!  I chose 3, and now frostwire loads!  ty :)
[02:17] <Opinie> soundray: ok... thanks
[02:17] <dapet> How do I tjek what vertion of netgear WG111 v2 i have? (and it is not the little 2 after the v, becuse there are like 10 of those)
[02:17] <Warbo> eternaljoy: My memory server me well :)
[02:18] <Warbo> *serves
[02:18] <eternaljoy> Warbo: is 3 3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java, the best one to use?
[02:18] <Dimitrije> I used this pastebin, i wrote my message and clicked send. What now?
[02:18] <Warbo> Yes
[02:18] <soundray> Opinie: http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml
[02:18] <Warbo> Dimitrije: copy the address, then paste it in here
[02:18] <nny_> gah is there a "advanced users" ubuntu forum?
[02:18] <nny_> or something?
[02:18] <Dimitrije> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19680
[02:18] <soundray> Opinie: here's another: http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[02:18] <Warbo> nny_: ubuntu developers' mailing list?
[02:19] <ompaul> nny_, what in one line what is your quesiton
[02:19] <nny_> for a simple aptitude problem?
[02:19] <nny_> lame
[02:19] <Warbo> lame=lame ain't an MP3 encoder
[02:19] <ompaul> !lame
[02:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about lame - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:19] <Warbo> You may need multiverse
[02:19] <IdleOne> nny_, this is the advanced users help channel. you need to be patient and keep asking every so often until someone can help you
[02:19] <ompaul> !info lame
[02:19] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[02:19] <soundray> Dimitrije: it says exactly what you need to do
[02:19] <soundray> Dimitrije: run "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" and try again
[02:19] <nny_> ompaul trying to install nvidia binary driver from Nvidia (heh Warbo) and apt/aptitude wants to install nvidia-kernel-common when installing kernel
[02:20] <nny_> ompaul i have had issues with the package nvidia stuff
[02:20] <Dimitrije> Yes, yes i see. That didn't happend when i did it in 5.10.
[02:20] <ompaul> nny_, this is the video card driver?
[02:20] <nny_> ompaul yes
[02:20] <ompaul> !nvidia > nny_
[02:20] <nny_> ompaul good god man
[02:20] <Opinie> sondray: Well... the one that I'm thinking about buying is most likely the same as the computer the maker of this website is using: http://bin-false.org/?p=17 ... So I guess I'll be heading in a world of trouble
[02:20] <nny_> ompaul did you just read the nvidia part?
[02:20] <Warbo> nny_: I found that nvidia-glx tries to install linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 if you don't have linux-restricted-modules installed, but after that I was fine
[02:21] <kidbuntu> why when i'm download something. the download speed is very slow. and whenever i'm pasting something. instead. # sign is pasted
[02:21] <nny_> ompaul i have that page open in links
[02:21] <Opinie> soundray: *of
[02:21] <nny_> ompaul but if you read it, no where does it say "hey, having issues 86ing old nvidia packages, here's why"
[02:21] <Warbo> nny_: Have you tried module-assistant?
[02:21] <Opinie> soundray: never mind just try to read through the typos...
[02:21] <IdleOne> good day ompaul  :)
[02:21] <soundray> Opinie: I wouldn't recommend it for a complete newbie, but it seems to be possible.
[02:22] <ompaul> nny_, there are two sets of binaries for nvidia - that is most likely the issue
[02:22] <Warbo> !info module-assistant
[02:22] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:22] <soundray> Opinie: In fact, I'm tempted to buy one...
[02:22] <nny_> Warbo not only have i not, i have never heard of it and it sounds X based
[02:22] <Opinie> soundray: Who isn't =D
[02:22] <Warbo> nny_: It sounds very X based. Until you run it and it gives you an ncurses menu
[02:22] <Dimitrije> soundray, it worked thanks.
[02:22] <nny_> Warbo and this would help how?
[02:22] <ompaul> nny_,  - am I to take it you don't want X or you do want X?
[02:23] <Warbo> nny_: It builds the nvidia driver for your kernel, then installs it
[02:23] <Warbo> (among others)
[02:23] <Warbo> (ncurses is text-based by the way)
[02:23] <nny_> Warbo ok great!!1 gah... but when i install my kernel it wants to install nvidia-kernel-common, which is a no no cause i don't want the linux based agpart module or anything
[02:23] <ompaul> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << gets you some basic X try nv or vesa as a temp measure
[02:25] <nny_> ompaul i have had nv working
[02:25] <nny_> ompaul i can edit xorg for it to work again
[02:25] <JEFERSON> O QUE E ISSO
[02:25] <chamo> :p
[02:25] <Warbo> Dammit, I tried to tell a .rm file to open in Gxine rather than Totem, but it is type plain-text and opens with gedit and abiword :(
[02:25] <nny_> sigh
[02:25] <soundray> !br
[02:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:25] <JEFERSON> QUI SALA  ESSA
[02:25] <ompaul> nny_, your other option is to join and mail this list with your full list of what it is you want (it is high volume) https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[02:25] <ompaul> !caps
[02:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:26] <kidbuntu> why when i'm using windows  xp OS my download speed is very fast. but when i'm using ubuntu. why is it very slow.?
[02:26] <Warbo> (and I don't want to save the whole stream it links to)
[02:26] <nny_> ompaul alright! that sounds wonderful... i am sure it'll get the utmost attention
[02:26] <wulax> cool, with the latest ati drivers, 8.27.10, XGL is actually fully usable for me. :D
[02:26] <nny_> for crying out loud
[02:26] <orbin> Warbo: how'd you tell it to use gxine?  via nautilus?
[02:26] <ompaul> nny_, let me explain something to you, I still don;t know what exactly you want
[02:27] <ompaul> nny_, if that rocks your boat go for it
[02:27] <Warbo> nny_: If you wanted a simple thing like nvidia drivers then it would be fine, but what you want is really specific, so no wonder nobody can help you
[02:27] <kidbuntu> why when i'm using windows  xp OS my download speed is very fast. but when i'm using ubuntu. why is it very slow.?
[02:27] <Warbo> orbin: Yes (but the file is a link to the stream)
[02:27] <soundray> kidbuntu: don't repeat
[02:27] <nny_> Warbo um that logic is bewildering
[02:27] <Warbo> orbin: I'll just open it "manually" through file>open
[02:28] <soundray> kidbuntu: how are you connected to the internet?
[02:28] <kidbuntu> soundray: what do you mean. DSL?
[02:28] <Warbo> nny_: If you don't want to use the regular ways because they install stuff you don't want, then that is very specific. Everyone else makes do
[02:28] <kidbuntu> soundray: is it the ubuntu servers or not??
[02:28] <soundray> kidbuntu: yes. Router? Modem? Ethernet? USB?
[02:28] <Warbo> I'm off to watch videos now
[02:28] <ompaul> nny_, irc deals in general everyday regular answers, and mailing lists do things that are a bit more complex, so if you care to define it maybe there is someone on that list that will help - but if you want something that *most people don't* then it may be beyond our knowlegebase as for your pseudo cynical comments I have one thing to say
[02:28] <ompaul> !patience
[02:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:29] <kidbuntu> soundray: ethernet
[02:29] <Netcad> anyone know what i could run on a system that has linux, but no GUI, cpu is 67mhz and ram 4mb?
[02:30] <nny_> ompaul i'll try, again, I have the howto for nvidia open, (in links, yay) and it states "remove nvidia-kernel-common" and when i try to update my kernel prior to (i need to, it's not smp based and this lappy has coreduo bs) so simply, when I try to aptitude install linux-686-smp it refuses to install it without nvidia-kernel-common. I am assuming this is because somewhere in apt it thinks that is a dep
[02:30] <soundray> Netcad: interesting question... Are you just looking for some use for this machine?
[02:31] <kidbuntu> soundray: and why i cant install ttf-freefont?
[02:32] <ompaul> nny_, to find that out -> apt-cache show linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 <-- see the deps
[02:33] <ompaul> nny_, it is one or two steps from the info you gave me
[02:33] <ompaul> nny_, so yes it does expect the nvidia-kernel-common to be there
[02:33] <nny_> ompaul ok so why and how do i tell it no?
[02:34] <ompaul> nny_, to change this you need to rebuild the packages
[02:34] <kidbuntu> soundray: is there something wrong with the servers. usually when i'm download using ubuntu my download speed is 103kbps. but now its only 10.56kbps
[02:34] <nny_> you're kidding me
[02:34] <soundray> kidbuntu: which servers are you using?
[02:34] <MatthewV> nny_, if your determined you could download the package and then sudo dpkg --force-all -i <package_name>
[02:34] <MatthewV> i think that'd work
[02:35] <kidbuntu> soundray: what do you mean which servers??
[02:35] <soundray> kidbuntu: I downloaded something from de.archive.ubuntu.com -- it was slower than usual, but not as slow as yours
[02:35] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: the ubuntu server repositories are all down because of serious overload
[02:35] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: however you could use a mirror
[02:35] <kidbuntu> soundray: i'm download the abiword from the add/remove applications
[02:35] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: where is it then??
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: such as us.archive.ubuntu.com, ae.archive.ubuntu.com, uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:36] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: how long will it take for them to fix the problem?
[02:36] <ompaul> nny_, accept the nvidia kernel work with it and the modules it needs or --- choose a specific module have it on the box and modprobe module and cat modulename >> /etc/modules
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: you just replace the first two letters with a country code however these are only mirrors for the archives, no mirrors are available for security repos
[02:36] <dapet> I am trying to install ndiswrapper (again), I just have to know what type my adapter is, the problem is that i can't get longer than, netgear WG111 v2, anyone knows how to tell the rest?
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: it's not a problem they can 'fix'. The servers are overloaded.
[02:37] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: where will i edit those??
[02:37] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: ah thats why
[02:37] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[02:37] <ompaul> nny_, frankly when something is a dep you accept it or build new binaries
[02:37] <incandenza> why overloaded today in particular?
[02:37] <DJAdmiral> not just today, but for the past few days
[02:37] <DJAdmiral> ubuntu popularity shot up I guess :P
[02:37] <incandenza> heh
[02:38] <incandenza> they put up that billboard in redwood city
[02:38] <ppd> hi. does somebody happen to know this problem with the linux printing package from samsung: get-printers failed: client-error-not-found ??
[02:38] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: whats on ae??
[02:38] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, is their a place where ubuntu mentions server states, project problems etc?
[02:38] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: it's the mirror for the country United Arab Emirates
[02:38] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta:  I'm not sure really.
[02:39] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta, kidbuntu
[02:39] <DJAdmiral> typo
[02:39] <kidbuntu> finalbeta: yes?
[02:39] <finalbeta> kidbuntu, I never spoke to you ;)
[02:39] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: yes?
[02:39] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta, kidbuntu: however I can take a look at your sources.list files and modify as necessary
[02:39] <incandenza> I've been able to use us.* and security in the past few hours, although it's been pretty slow
[02:39] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta, kidbuntu: add repos, mirrors etc.
[02:39] <ogamiitto> soundray, command does not work
[02:40] <soundray> !doesn't work
[02:40] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:40] <DJAdmiral> the security repos do not have any mirrors as far as i know.
[02:40] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, I can wait a while, I guess they will add some servers or bandwidth, they can't stay down
[02:40] <ogamiitto> soundray,i've tried removing the ' but no results
[02:40] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: give me a link please to paste bin
[02:40] <finalbeta> !paste
[02:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:40] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: 'Waiting' a while isn't exactly a good idea. just set the updates to download at night and go to sleep
[02:41] <netgrabber> Hi I need an imap server for my litte netzwork. Any suggestions?
[02:41] <ogamiitto> soundray,with '  i have an no such file error, i'm using bash
[02:41] <netgrabber> I think Dovecot is ok?
[02:41] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: I don't suspect they will be upgrading their servers anytime soon
[02:41] <soundray> ogamiitto: don't copy the quote marks
[02:41] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: here it is. i changed everything to us. check if it is right, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19681
[02:41] <MatthewV> netgrabber, System --> Help --> System Documentation
[02:41] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, they don't really have a choise, or ubuntu will be cripled for most
[02:42] <soundray> ogamiitto: the command is adapted from http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Tips-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.6  -- have a look there
[02:42] <MatthewV> Read the server guide... :)
[02:42] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: i'll take a look at it and get back to you
[02:42] <ogamiitto> soundray, ok, just the parenthesis, right?
[02:42] <soundray> ogamiitto: from the famous Alan Cox
[02:42] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: ok
[02:42] <dapet> I am trying to install ndiswrapper (again), I just have to know what type my adapter is, the problem is that i can't get longer than, netgear WG111 v2, anyone knows how to tell the rest?
[02:42] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, they should modify the sources list when you install ubuntu for your location.
[02:42] <soundray> ogamiitto: yes, those are essential
[02:42] <bimberi> nny_: how about if you try to install linux-image-686, which is one of the two dependencies of linux-686-smp? The other dependency is linux-restricted-modules-686 which is the one wanting to bring in nvidia-kernel-common
[02:42] <MatthewV> hi dapet
[02:42] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: crippled? I suppose not, but meh.
[02:42] <ogamiitto> ok
[02:42] <MatthewV> dapet, there's a wiki page about the wg111, just remembered.. wait a moment i'll find it
[02:42] <netgrabber> MatthewV: big thx
[02:43] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: during installation of ubuntu it asks what country are you in. it accordingly creates a sources.list file for you
[02:43] <MatthewV> netgrabber, if that doesn't help, there's a big howto floating around, if you need it just ask me for the link and I'll find it
[02:43] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: but sometimes other country mirrors can be so much faster.
[02:44] <dapet> MatthewV: ohhh thx :D
[02:44] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: what command to install openoffice.org?
[02:44] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: openoffice.org is pre-installed with ubuntu :)
[02:44] <netgrabber> MatthewV: I think i have everything i need :D
[02:44] <MatthewV> dapet, i think that this might help :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111
[02:44] <MatthewV> netgrabber, no probs
[02:44] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: or do you want to install a previous version or re-install it or update it?
[02:45] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: as i installed 6.06 LTS. from 5.10. by update only. my open office.org are not installed
[02:45] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: ah, i see.
[02:45] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: first let's just look at your sources.list
[02:45] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: ok
[02:45] <dapet> MatthewV:  thx... It says it work on 5.05 but I have dapper, but thats no problem?
[02:45] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, this is my list, I pretty much enabled all of it not knowing beter : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19682
[02:46] <MatthewV> dapet, the dapper part willl probably be what you need.... scroll down a bit :)
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: as far as i can see it's all fine, no backports added but that's not really necessary. just change the country code to another mirror
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: i'll take a look
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> !info openoffice
[02:46] <ubotu> Package openoffice does not exist in dapper
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> !openoffice
[02:46] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> there we go
[02:46] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: so i dont have to replace anything. i already changed it before i sent it to you
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> that's your command kidbunu
[02:46] <eternaljoy> how can I close XMMS vie terminal as I cant close it via XMMS?
[02:46] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu*
[02:46] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, thnx
[02:47] <dapet> MatthewV: he he DOOOO I am still a noob ha ha
[02:47] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, I'm from belgium btw, in case you need that for mirrors
[02:47] <Dimitrije> What is extension for pascal?
[02:47] <MatthewV> dapet, everyone starts somewhere :)
[02:48] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: everything seems fine, you can enable the backport repos if need be, but i guess you should use a mirror for all ubuntu archives
[02:48] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i think this one is overloaded also.
[02:48] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: whats the country code for ae. i'm going to generate the sources.list
[02:48] <netgrabber> MatthewV: are there any rules how my networkd should be named? Can I just use hostname.foo.lan?
[02:48] <dapet> MatthewV: thats true.... I hope I can learn enough that i someday can pay back all the support from in here and other places :D
[02:48] <mumbles> is the ubuntu package server still playing up ?
[02:48] <mumbles> or do i have a fucked cd ?
[02:48] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: just put in a 'be.' before all 'archive's in your sources.list, but live security.ubuntu untouched
[02:48] <cwraig> netgrabber - yea that should be gfine
[02:48] <DJAdmiral> !language
[02:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:48] <CyDrive> Wondering if anyone here can help me with some php coding
[02:49] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, ok thnx
[02:49] <cwraig> yea i can php badly :P
[02:49] <DJAdmiral> mumbled, please mind your language
[02:49] <MatthewV> netgrabber, generally you can call it what you want :) if it makes sense to you....
[02:49] <netgrabber> i can name it google too...
[02:49] <netgrabber> de.google.com :D
[02:49] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: ae is the country code for united arab emirates. im using it right now but it's slow atm as well
[02:49] <finalbeta> DJAdmiral, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main to deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main ?
[02:49] <dapet> "Undertake a clean install of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" does this mean I have to install Ubuntu again?!
[02:49] <CyDrive> cwraig you might be able to help me my problem is kinda noobish
[02:49] <DJAdmiral> finalbeta: yes
[02:49] <MatthewV> dapet, no, you should be fine
[02:50] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: are there faster servers available??
[02:50] <cwraig> netgrabber - yea if you do you wont be able to see google, but nameit google.lan or google.local youde be alright
[02:50] <MatthewV> dapet, start with the part about blacklisting drivers
[02:50] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: coz i'm really in a hurry
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: when you find one, let me know :P
[02:50] <cwraig> cydrive hit me
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: your best choice is to leave updates running for the night
[02:50] <netgrabber> cwraig: maybe in the future they add .lan to the top level domains :(
[02:50] <cwraig> i use .local
[02:50] <CyDrive> cwraig is there any way to go private so im not flooding the room with source?
[02:50] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: how will i know if the one i replaced are the backports of the servers?
[02:51] <munsa> Anyone here use Beagle?
[02:51] <wildman> hello *
[02:51] <dapet> MatthewV: Okay thx.... I have worked with this a week now, and now there is progress :d
[02:51] <Dimitrije> !pascal
[02:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about pascal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:51] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: i dont even know what 2 letter country code to put
[02:51] <munsa> wildman howdy
[02:51] <shiv> when ubuntu updates it does not ask me if I am using an authenticated or pirated version he he he he!
[02:51] <munsa> Anyone use Begle?
[02:51] <DJAdmiral> kidbuntu: all the sources for backports are the ones which have the word 'backports' in the list
[02:51] <IdleOne> DJAdmiral, ei. seems to be working fine
[02:51] <munsa> The search thing? I hear its awsome
[02:51] <wildman> anyone knows when a fix for ia32-libs-gtk 16.1 (mangling menus for 32 bits apps of all kind) will be released?
[02:52] <kidbuntu> DJAdmiral: where can i look the following list?
[02:52] <mehrdad> how to create a custom repository on DVDs using a bunch of DEBs?
[02:52] <Warbo> munsa: I can't get it to bring up any decent results
[02:52] <munsa> really?
[02:52] <wildman> so far, I'm using a 'downgraded' version, 16, which doesn't have the font mangling problem
[02:52] <cwraig> how can i pm someone in this channel?
[02:52] <cwraig> cydrive jjoing #kubuntu
[02:52] <Evil_Ed`> investigating
[02:52] <MatthewV> cwraig, /msg <nick> <message>
[02:52] <wildman> cwraig, your nick should be registered with the server to be able to pm
[02:53] <goonies> mehrdad, id like to know the same thing heh, need it for my networkless computer
[02:53] <MatthewV> cwraig, /helm msg might help
[02:53] <dapet> MatthewV: "install ndiswrapper. Search the install CD for ndiswrapper-utils (look in /pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/), copy the deb file to the desktop, right-click and choose the install option." what CD?
[02:53] <MatthewV> */help
[02:53] <Warbo> munsa: I have done everything I'm supposed to (added extentions to my filesystems, "exrecised the dog", etc.) but for example "mp3" only brings up a system MIME-type configuration file
 are u here, I need help big time
[02:53] <MatthewV> dapet, it would be the cd you installed ubuntu from... I'm not sure if it is included on the dapper desktop cd though....
[02:54] <Warbo> mehrdad: I think there is info about that on debian.org
[02:54] <dapet> Hmmm I trei it :D
[02:54] <mehrdad> Is it possible to use debmirror and debpartial to pack a bunch of deb packages in a custom repository on DVDs?
[02:54] <mehrdad> Warbo, thanks
[02:54] <MatthewV> dapet, its the dapper install cd, the cd you installed ubuntu from
[02:54] <DJAdmiral> brb im a little busy atm
[02:54] <munsa> warbo yea I thoght I would try it because I read that Suse Was useing it and the guy who made it went to work for google or something and everyone was ranting about it... did you get it from the reposatorys
[02:55] <vlt> Hello. After rebooting my 2nd NIC sometimes is eth2 not eth1. a) How can I change eth2 to eth1 NOW? How can i prevent the kernel from changing the dev name when booting?
[02:55] <Warbo> munsa: Yes
[02:55] <dapet> MatthewV: If I think I have put the cd in the trash, are there a secondary way to get it?
[02:55] <vlt> using Dapper 6.06
[02:55] <Warbo> munsa: Don't get me wrong, it is supposed to be brilliant. Just that I can't get it to run :(
[02:56] <MatthewV> dapet, yes, from terminal, run the command 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper' (without quotes)
[02:56] <sjk> I downloaded the latest release of Kubuntu for the powerpc yesterday. I'm trying to install it on my Mac PowerBook G3 today. I get to the point where the installer tries to install the boot loader Yaboot, and I get the following error: "The installation of the yaboot loader failed. Please check the system log or the output on the third console. Warning: your system may be unbootable!"
[02:56] <sjk> Does anyone have any hints to give me? And, where's the system log?
[02:56] <Nemuse> hello all
[02:56] <thejusticecow> is there a way to install ubuntu without any bootable devices?
[02:56] <chamo> network
[02:56] <thejusticecow> besides hdd
[02:56] <Warbo> sjk: "dmesg | tail" will give the last few bits of the system log
[02:56] <Nemuse> someon1 have a g7 wireless mouse?
[02:56] <DJAdmiral> back
[02:56] <dapet> MatthewV: it were not able to find the pacage ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <samu2> oh wow, the new rhythmbox is pretty nice now
[02:56] <DJAdmiral> !ati > DJAdmiral
[02:57] <MatthewV> dapet, just a moment
[02:57] <DJAdmiral> !s3 > DJAdmiral
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about s3  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:57] <mehrdad> !debmirror
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about debmirror - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:57] <Nemuse> i'have problem whit wheel tilt configuration
[02:57] <Nemuse> left and right
[02:58] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: Use "/msg ubotu information-you-want" to get information please
[02:58] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: alright, thanks
[02:58] <zOap> are there any graphic programs with vector other than gimp and inkscape?
[02:58] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: Keeps the channel clear
[02:58] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: didn't know of that way, sorry ;)
[02:58] <shiv> when ubuntu updates it does not ask me if I am using an authenticated or pirated version he he he he!
[02:58] <MatthewV> dapet, replace ndiswrapper with ndiswrapper-utils
[02:58] <DJAdmiral> shiv: there is no pirate version of ubuntu
[02:59] <IdleOne> lol
[02:59] <Warbo> zOap: sodipodi, dia, OpenOffice Draw
[02:59] <DJAdmiral> shiv: by authenticated it means if those packages you are downloading and installing are digitally verified by ubuntu to be completely safe for your computer
[02:59] <cwraig> cydrive you still around?
[02:59] <shiv> when ubuntu updates it does not ask me if I am using an authenticated or pirated version he he he he!
[02:59] <Nemuse> nobody has a g5/g7?  OO
[02:59] <DJAdmiral> cwraig: no he isn't
[02:59] <bbt> is there a k8-smp kernel for dapper in 32bit mode ?
[03:00] <dapet> MatthewV: it worked... Now I just go with "nd the Netgear WG111 driver. Wit" ?
[03:00] <zOap> Warbo, thanks :)
[03:00] <DJAdmiral> shiv: you already said that, please do not spam this channel
[03:00] <Warbo> zOap: I love inkscape though
[03:00] <cwraig> yea
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> guys i had a dual boot machine running windows on primary master and ubuntu on secondary.  Upon booting this morning the computer could not find the boot record from either of these drives??... I have come to the conclussion that my windows hdd is broken as booting from the liveCD with this drive plugged in stops the cd at (mounting root filesystem). I have now unplugged windows drive and ran live cd again with ubuntu h
[03:00] <MatthewV> dapet, now just follow the next step on the howto, the part about finding the NetgearWG111 driver
[03:00] <zOap> Warbo, yeah me too, but I'm always looking ya know ;)
[03:00] <dapet> MatthewV: okay, thx :d
[03:01] <arto> !compiz
[03:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:01] <Warbo> zOap: The only other vector program I use is Moho, which does animation, which costs 65
[03:01] <cwraig> paddy - the easiest thing to todo is to throw in knoppix and reinstall grub
[03:01] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: What about Adobe Flash? :P
[03:01] <zOap> Warbo, ok, I'll look into it, sounds nice :)
[03:01] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: It costs way more, doesn't have as many features, and runs terribly in WINE :)
[03:02] <[1] smssms> hi all, I was windering if there was a tool for windows/linux/unix (non-ubuntu) which I can use to select packages to download from my office and install them at home (on dapper drake x64)
[03:02] <munsa> !pastebin
[03:02] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: hence the :P
[03:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
 i have Knoppix, is there a guide to this on the cd
[03:02] <cwraig> paddy - no but hang on ill find you a link
[03:03] <Warbo> [1] smssms: The Debian website has scripts that can be run involving wget, but I don't know how they would work on Windows
[03:03] <dapet> MatthewV: I find the Drivers on the netgear install cd?
[03:03] <MatthewV> dapet, yes
[03:03] <incandenza> smssms: under ubuntu apt-zip does that...  dunno about non-ubuntu
 is it at all possible to determine what happened to the windows drive
[03:04] <DJAdmiral> My sister's Desktop has a 32MB S3 Savage3D Video Card, how do I find out if that video card is working or not and if it isn't, where can I get drivers from and how do I install them?
[03:04] <cwraig> paddy - still got that knoppix cd :P
[03:04] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig yep
[03:05] <smssms> Warbo, I have Linux at the office, so wget is not a problem
[03:05] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: is ubuntu installed?
[03:05] <smssms> incandenza: but I guess apt-zip does not work on non-ubuntu systems
[03:05] <dapet> MatthewV: I can't find anything that is ndiss5 direktory, but I found all the drivers... Do I just use the XP driver?
[03:05] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: hence I'm asking on an ubuntu support channel :P
 can it see the partiitons at all?
[03:05] <incandenza> smssms: correct
[03:05] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: lol, turn on the computer, if you see something, it's working :)
[03:05] <MatthewV> dapet, i would, but only if you cannot find the ndis5 directory....
[03:06] <incandenza> smssms: I kind of doubt there's a tool like that for non-ubuntu; I think you'd have to just do it by hand
[03:06] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: not the case with my laptop. it's 8mb video card refuses to word.
[03:06] <MatthewV> i haven't followed this howto before, so i can't say exactly what will happen
[03:06] <DJAdmiral> work*
[03:06] <dapet> MatthewV: I can't se anything that mention that
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig i cant run the ubuntu live cd with windows drive plugged in, it stalls at mounting root filesystem
[03:06] <munsa> Hey can someone help me? I have this wierd error when I try to download stuff with FireFox Maybe someone can give me a hint... thanks alot... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19684
[03:06] <Shinzetsu> My sound is gone!
[03:06] <Howitzer> To install VMware-player, i need to install the kernel source, where can i get it?
[03:06] <MatthewV> dapet, ok, then use the xp drivers
[03:06] <Howitzer> i have kernel 2.6.15-26-686..
[03:06] <smssms> incandenza, thanks, the problem is I can't get all the dependancies ny hand
 i think knoppix doesnt try to mount hte drives on boot
[03:07] <DJAdmiral> Howitzer: try getting VMWare Player from the ubuntu repos instead ;)
[03:07] <incandenza> smssms: yeah, it would be a pain
[03:07] <Shinzetsu> Howitser: install build-essential and use Synaptic to search for 'linux-headers' and install the one for your kernel/cpu architecture
[03:07] <Shinzetsu> I had the same problem
[03:07] <dapet> MatthewV: okay
[03:07] <Howitzer> DJAdmiral, it won't work
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig nice one, i should probably reboot with Knoppix eh
[03:07] <munsa> I can download alright with Mozilla
[03:07] <Howitzer> and a lot are having those problems and can't fix them
[03:07] <munsa> but when I try with firefox i get this error
[03:07] <munsa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19684
[03:07] <Howitzer> so i'm trying the official package
[03:07] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer: are you trying to run an OS? Get VMware Workstation instead
[03:07] <DJAdmiral> Howitzer: it's working here....
[03:08] <Howitzer> i get errors concerning vmmon
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig what will i use in knoppix to get back to this channel, as its a pain not having xchat-gnome
[03:08] <cwraig> ok
[03:08] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer; apt-get install build-essential
[03:08] <DJAdmiral> munsa: some problem concerning some firefox extension you installed I think.
[03:08] <Howitzer> Shinzetsu, i create my .vmx files with easy-vmx
[03:08] <munsa> oh yea?
[03:08] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer: alright I see
[03:08] <Bison> Hello
[03:08] <Howitzer> is already installed
[03:08] <munsa> DJAmiral wierd, I dunno
[03:08] <crybaby24> are their skins or something along those lines for ubuntu?
[03:08] <ryanakca> munsa: problably a half installed extension... Flashgot maybe?
 konversation is the kde irc app
[03:08] <Howitzer> i just need the kernel source in /usr/src/include
[03:08] <ryanakca> munsa: what extensions you have installed?
[03:09] <Bison> Anyone know where to find font packages?
[03:09] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig nice one, back in a mo
[03:09] <munsa> ryanakca just flash
[03:09] <munsa> haha
[03:09] <Shinzetsu> Howtizer: use 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' to get the C compiler so it can make a version for your kernel, after that use Synaptic to search for 'linux-headers' and get the right one for your kernel version+cpu architecture
[03:09] <Howitzer> aaah
[03:09] <Howitzer> okay
[03:09] <Howitzer> i was searching for kernel source instead of kernel headers :)
[03:09] <Howitzer> thanks!
[03:09] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: hmmm... "doesn't work"... that mean XOrg doesn't work, but you see the Console/Terminal?
[03:09] <munsa> i downloaded flash 7 from the website
[03:09] <Bison> What category would they be under?
[03:09] <Warbo> Bison: You can install any fonts from the Net by dragging them into fonts:///
[03:09] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer: anytime
[03:09] <munsa> and it installed ok
[03:09] <munsa> Flash works nice on my comp now
[03:09] <keivan> hello all. i have just installed a second harddisk and did fdisk to format in ext3. hdd is created, but i cannot find how to give myself permission to access the disk (and also what exactly write to mount it automatically)
[03:09] <Bison> Warbo: just as if I were using windows?
[03:10] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: hmmm... or is it a blank screen with nothing
[03:10] <Warbo> Bison: No, as if you were using GNOME :)
[03:10] <ryanakca> munsa: restart firefox... who knows :)
[03:10] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer: also, when installing it gives you default locations which is /usr/src/linux/include, but it is /usr/src/linux-headers-yaddayadda/include/, copy/paste the directory location when it asks
[03:10] <Bison> Warbo: what directory do they go to?
[03:10] <munsa> What do you guys thing? Mozilla is better than Firefox? Firefox seems alot lighter but Mozilla seems to have just about everything
[03:10] <Bison> ...and what about as if i was using xfce?
[03:10] <Warbo> Bison: In the file manager press ctrl-L and put "fonts:///" then just drag font files (.ttf and stuff) into there
[03:10] <Howitzer> okay
[03:10] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: I can see GNOME, I'm able to interact etc. but fglrx does not want to work with my ATI RAGE 128 Mobility. It's  said in the Ubuntu Wiki that my card is not supported.
[03:11] <Shinzetsu> Anyway my sound dissapeard when I runned ScummVM
[03:11] <drayen> hey guys - im trying to get my dvb-t usb (freecom) to work in ubuntu dapper 64 - is there any known issues in getting this to work (as from what i've read online, it 'just works' in normal dapper)
[03:11] <Howitzer> but Shinzetsu, does it matter if it's called kernel-headers or linux-headers?
[03:11] <Warbo> Bison: I don't know about XFCE. You could install kcontrol and use that to install fonts
[03:11] <Howitzer> because that changed with 2.4 :o
[03:11] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer: no idea, i got linux-headers
[03:11] <smssms> anyway, thanks everyone for your support!
[03:11] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: my system runs perfectly fine like a normal machine, but 3D Games are an absolute no-no on this machine.
[03:11] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: can you explain that... What happens... "does not work" doesn't tell me anythign
[03:11] <dapet> MatthewV: When I configurate the ndiswrapper, i have to write this command "sudo ndiswarapper -m" but it says that the command is not found?
[03:12] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: ah... hmmm.. run fglrxinfo and pastebin the output
[03:12] <Howitzer> aaargh
[03:12] <munsa> Anyhone know of a .flv player for Linux?
[03:12] <MatthewV> dapet, you've spelt it wrong :P
[03:12] <munsa> To play like google videos and stufF?
[03:12] <Shinzetsu> dapet: sudo apt-get install ndiswarapper?
[03:12] <gregg__> munsa: vlc
[03:12] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: There is the radeon driver which I use
[03:12] <Howitzer> whoopeee
[03:12] <Shinzetsu> ATI drivers are bad =\ but the cards are good
[03:12] <dapet> MatthewV: hmmm i just copy pasted it from the howto
[03:12] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca, Warbo: i'll pastebin it in a sec
[03:12] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: That may support your card
[03:12] <munsa> gregg_ is it in the reposatorys?
[03:12] <Shinzetsu> Howitzer: it works?
[03:13] <MatthewV> dapet, that'd explain it, it should be 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'
[03:13] <gregg__> munsa: AFAIK it is in multiverse or universe
[03:13] <YoussefAssad> anyone here using the dovecot imap server?
[03:13] <gregg__> YoussefAssad, yes
[03:13] <munsa> ok thanks
[03:13] <YoussefAssad> gregg__: if you wouldn't mind telling me, do you use mbox or maildir?
[03:13] <dapet> MatthewV: I fixed it, it now says "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[03:13] <gregg__> YoussefAssad: maildir
[03:14] <YoussefAssad> gregg__: is it significantly speedier?
[03:14] <DanaG> Aargh, now Gnome completely ignores all my keyboard shortcuts.
[03:14] <kazukisan> I am trying to play a RMVB file, Right now it wont play it with any player, I cant install realplayer because for some reason when i try to it says (break) install before i hit accept ?????
[03:14] <gregg__> YoussefAssad: MUCH faster
[03:14] <ta1> hey! i managed to mess up my sudo privileges. what can i do?
[03:14] <DJAdmiral> Warbo, ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19686
[03:14] <YoussefAssad> gregg__: damn, I thought do. Now I have to convert my mailboxes and procmailrc
[03:14] <gregg__> YoussefAssad: faster, and many other benefits...
[03:14] <DJAdmiral> Hey Dana!
[03:14] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: aha... should talk about ati... not mesa...
[03:14] <YoussefAssad> s/do/so/
[03:15] <MatthewV> dapet, hmm... don't know, try again?
[03:15] <YoussefAssad> gregg__: okay, thanks for the input!
[03:15] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: so what exactly should I be doing then?
[03:15] <gregg__> YoussefAssad: that's not so hard, you can do it easily with mutt for example
[03:15] <dapet> MatthewV: it says the same thing
[03:15] <DanaG> The name DJAdmiral seems familiar to me, but why?
[03:15] <DJAdmiral> DanaG: We talked yesterday for a little bit. That's all. Just wanted to say hi.
[03:16] <kazukisan> I am trying to play a RMVB file, Right now it wont play it with any player, I cant install realplayer because for some reason when i try to it says (break) install before i hit accept ?????
[03:16] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: Anything?
[03:16] <MatthewV> dapet, don't know then... sorry... pretty busy right now, so I'll bbl very sorry
[03:16] <Otacon22> how can I open a new firefox tab from shell choosing the page that I want to open?
[03:16] <nousie> can someone please help me? i tried to add a group and now my user admin privelages are revoked. i am no longer part of the sudoers file... what can i do?
[03:16] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: ok, go to /usr/lib, and move libGL.so.1.2 to something like libGL.1.2.old. then go "wget http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2"
[03:17] <wanglin-sir> hi ,all
[03:17] <wanglin-sir> how to unpress a iso file? what command to use ?
[03:17] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: move it or copy it?
[03:17] <dapet> MatthewV: bbl? Yoy don't have to be sorry, you helped me a lot :D
[03:18] <DJAdmiral> wanglin-sir: You can right click an iso in nautilus and burn it easily
[03:18] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: move it
[03:18] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: okay, doing tha
[03:18] <kazukisan> nousie: Maybe try usermod -G sudo USERNAME
[03:18] <wanglin-sir> but I want to know how to unpress in command line ?   DJAdmiral
[03:19] <YoussefAssad> gregg__: actually, I'm probably going to use a utility called mb2md.pl
[03:19] <keivan> sometimes it helps to ask ... and then rtf. :-)
[03:19] <keivan> manual
[03:19] <keivan> bye
[03:19] <wanglin-sir> DJAdmiral,  my English is poor
[03:19] <kazukisan> nousie: if it says you dont have premission then you have to boot up in recovery mode
[03:19] <nousie> kazukisan: usermod: unable to lock password file
[03:19] <kingrayray> whoa there's an ubuntu channel on quakenet lol
[03:19] <kingrayray> i just joined it on accident :)
[03:20] <nousie> k i'll try thanks
[03:20] <thekorn> Otacon22: firefox -new-tab URL
[03:20] <kazukisan> I am trying to play a RMVB file, Right now it wont play it with any player, I cant install realplayer because for some reason when i try to it says (break) install before i hit accept ?????
[03:20] <Shinzetsu> Can someone help me? I ran ScummVM and all of a sudden my sound is gone
[03:20] <PingunZ> Is there anyway I can mod the ubuntu install cd to install my theme, my language, xgl, ... and remove openoffice etc ?
[03:20] <Bison> ah
[03:21] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: something not going right here....
[03:21] <Bison> Where can a place fonts for use?
[03:21] <Otacon22> tnx thekorn
[03:21] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: ???
[03:21] <kingrayray> i installed mpd and mpdscribble, now how do i make them start on boot?
[03:21] <PingunZ> Bison, /usr/share/fonts
[03:21] <PingunZ> !livecd
[03:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[03:21] <MatthewV> dapet, if you can't get more help here tonight... maybe tmrw some time, I'll run through the whole thing on my pc and walk you through it at the same time
[03:21] <aidehua> When Gnome launches a document viewer to look ad PDFs, what is the app^A^K
[03:22] <aidehua> Oh: i'll just open a PDF and run ps(1) :)
[03:22] <Bison> thanks PingunZ
[03:22] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: never mind, it's fine.
[03:22] <aidehua> Thanks #ubuntu!
[03:22] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: what do i do now then?
[03:22] <dapet> MatthewV: thx... How do I know when you are online again? I live in central europe, so maybe our timeline is different?
[03:22] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: fglrxinfo    is it the same thing as before?
[03:23] <eigenlambda> wow... i am impressed by how quickly ubuntu just restarted
[03:23] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: yep
[03:23] <MatthewV> dapet, well.... I would give about 0800 UTC a try tomorrow, I'm in australia, so that'll be afternoon for me...
[03:24] <MatthewV> dapet, I'll try be on, and if your on, I'll give you a yell... in the meantime, someone might be able to help you with that error...
[03:24] <nousie> kazukistan: thank you it worked
[03:24] <nousie> !
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <dapet> Okay... I write your name down, and then i se if you are here, when I am... If there is no other ;9
[03:24] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25
[03:24] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: checking link
[03:25] <plastic> hi
[03:25] <PingunZ> Is there anyway I can mod the ubuntu install cd to install my theme, my language, xgl, ... and remove openoffice etc ?
[03:25] <nousie> for mplayer
[03:25] <nny> any reason why X won't load nvidia module, but i can modprobe it?
[03:25] <dapet> MatthewV: thx again :D
[03:25] <MatthewV> dapet, yeah, but just if I'm in here, doesn't mean I'm around ;) I'll keep an eye out for you, or you can always look for me in #ubuntu-au
[03:25] <nny> MatthewV thanks btw, got the kernel installed and working without the extra nvidia packages
[03:25] <dapet> MatthewV: Okay... cya :D
[03:25] <MatthewV> nny, great :)
[03:26] <plastic> what port are for USB /dev/ttys0 etc.?
[03:26] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: i'll follow these instructions and get back to you, thanks
[03:26] <MatthewV> dapet, I'm here now, so you don't have to say cya yet :)
[03:26] <nny> MatthewV any chance you know why X won't start (doesn't load nvidia module" but I can modprobe the module?
[03:26] <nny> it exists, but X won't load it.. maybe BusID needed?
[03:26] <MatthewV> nny, probably an x config error....
[03:26] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: kk, hope it works... I had to mess around with it a while :)
[03:27] <MatthewV> dapet, what was that error again?
[03:27] <nny> MatthewV module "nvidia" does not exist
[03:27] <DanaG> argh, Gnome is absolutely completely ignoring my keyboard shortcuts.
[03:27] <dapet> MatthewV: He he okay.... hmmm... "we talk when you have time" then ;)
[03:27] <dapet> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[03:27] <MatthewV> dapet, yeah something like that, if i don't respond I've dissapeared
[03:27] <MatthewV> dapet, could you pastebin the contents of /etc/modprobe ?
[03:27] <Shinzetsu>  someone?
[03:28] <plastic> what port are for USB /dev/ttys0 etc.?
[03:28] <kazukisan> Why when i am trying to install RealPlayer it says Break Install in adept ?????
[03:28] <nny> MatthewV which is ironic cause modprobe nvidia works
[03:28] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: i'll brb
[03:28] <nny> running.. out.. of.. battery
[03:28] <nny> rar
[03:29] <Shinzetsu> an someone help me? I ran ScummVM and all of a sudden my sound is gone
[03:29] <dapet> MatthewV: no such file
[03:29] <MatthewV> dapet, don't worry....
[03:29] <MatthewV> dapet, gtg again.. :)
[03:29] <dapet> MatthewV: okay
[03:30] <plastic> what port are for USB /dev/ttys0 etc.? enyone..
[03:30] <kazukisan> Why when i am trying to install RealPlayer it says Break Install in adept ?????
[03:30] <kingrayray> i installed mpd and mpdscribble, now how do i make them start on boot?
[03:31] <arto> how can I change themes for compiz????????????????????????? No apply button!@
[03:32] <jbroome> you need more question marks for it to work
[03:32] <jgpons> Hi everyone. Anyone using the madwifi drivers and wpa?
[03:32] <nny> sigh.. once again this is crap... I wonder how many laptop users in linuxland get turned away because of ***** up nvidia and ati issues
[03:32] <arto> jbroome: More question marks to catch the blind's attention. Right.
[03:33] <nny> i have been a user for oh.. say 4 years and this still always cost me way too much time
[03:33] <plastic> what dev stand for USB in /dev/ ?
 what are you trying to plug in?
[03:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Im back
[03:34] <dapet> Why do the command "sudo ndiswrapper -m" says "modprobe config already contains alias directive"?
[03:34] <cwraig_> <paddy
[03:34] <plastic> phone
[03:35] <plastic> cwraig, phone
 you in knoppix?
 i dont know but when i plug in a usb thumb drive it comes up as sda1
 yeah ive boot from knoppix, although i couldnt boot with windows drive plugged in although this aint a prob right now
 hang on ill find the link for ya
[03:36] <plastic> cwraig, thax. go for a try..
[03:37] <jgpons> Anyone using wpa_supplicant?
[03:37] <mandeep> hey
[03:37] <CarlFK> jgpons: im using wpa something :)
[03:37] <TheGame> can some1 tell me how to mount an iso
[03:37] <TheGame> ive already got the mount point
[03:38] <CarlFK> mount -o loop something somewhere
[03:38] <TheGame> ??
[03:38] <jgpons> CarlFK. Yeah thanks. I have a little problem: to enable my wifi access I _must_ do a _manual_ ifdown followed by a _manual_ ifup.
[03:38] <jgpons> It is quite weird...
[03:38] <cwraig_> mount /home/user/Desktop/myiso.iso /home/user/mount
[03:38] <TheGame> so mount -0 loop filename mountpoint
[03:39] <cwraig_> that might work
[03:39] <TheGame> what  is -oo
 sorry its taking so long
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig_ no probs mate
[03:40] <thejusticecow> i just downloaded a movie and it is a .bin and a .cue file.. can someone tell me what i do with these?
[03:40] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[03:40] <CarlFK> jgpons: see my note at the bottem
[03:40] <Warbo> "sudo mount filename.iso mountpoint -o loop" < it is a lowercase O, not a zero
[03:40] <Warbo> (o for option)
[03:41] <plastic> cwraig_, noup sda1 wont work..but thanx anyway.
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo would knoppix be worth installing and using
[03:41] <jgpons> CarlFK: sorry... what note? :?
[03:41] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[03:41] <amarokker_> Warbo: does the stupid .daa files work that way? everyone nowadays have been uploading files on p2p using some godforsaken format.
[03:41] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Can it be installed? I have no idea
[03:41] <jgpons> CarlFK Thanks a lot, I'll take a look at it
[03:41] <timalot> thejusticecow: i think cdrdao can handle thoes
[03:41] <Warbo> Never heard of .daa
[03:41] <timalot> those
 root@ttyp0[/] # gpart /dev/hda
 if you do this is should list the partitions on your disk
[03:42] <thejusticecow> timalot: sorry i am new to linux could you be more specific?
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo it can be installed, i was just wondering what it would be like saying that its also based of debian
[03:42] <Warbo> thejusticecow: bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk, so maybe that can then be written to disc and played?
[03:42] <amarokker_> is there any way i can access files from my ext3 partition from windows?
[03:42] <amarokker_> its really a windows issues isnt it-
[03:42] <timalot> thejusticecow: i assume u want to write the bin file to a disc?
[03:42] <thejusticecow> Warbo: ok thanks
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> amarokker_ you can
[03:42] <gregg__> Warbo: probably won't work
[03:42] <amarokker_> otherwise i'd have to back up the disk and convert it all into fat32
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> amarokker_ you need the ext 2 driver
[03:42] <kingrayray> yeah.. there is an ext3 driver available for windows but it has its flaws
[03:43] <gregg__> thejusticecow: cdrdao can be burn these
[03:43] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Well I know they like KDE, but I don't so I wouldn't use it (except for QTParted which is cool)
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ext2 totally stable
[03:43] <amarokker_> Paddy_EIRE: i think i saw that once- i have to extract the files once more to my ntfs drives, yes?
[03:43] <amarokker_> is that the one you're talking about?
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo can i not install gnome on knoppix
[03:43] <gregg__> Warbo, thejusticecow: movie in bin/cue is VCD/SVCD in most cases... can't be converted to iso and burned straight away
[03:44] <cwraig_> <paddy if its correct then do this root@ttyp0[/] # gpart -W /dev/hda /dev/hda
[03:44] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Probably, but I like Ubuntu since it is focused on GNOME and there are loads of little GNOME apps like Alacarte and Gdebi specifically made for it
[03:44] <CarlFK> kingrayray: are you talking about http://www.fs-driver.org ?
[03:44] <errpast-wc1> How do I increase the screen size and resolution of a vnc display.  Windows client running realvnc viewer
[03:44] <thejusticecow> gregg__: the readme says install software, do you know what they mean by this?
 there is a driver
[03:44] <gregg__> thejusticecow: the readme of what?
 Carlfk beat me to it
[03:44] <kingrayray> CarlFK: no idea, haven't ran windows in a long time
[03:44] <kingrayray> my friend is the one who used it.
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo yeah ur right i kinda love ubuntu and gnome myself
[03:45] <cwraig_> i have used fs-driver for ages
 how did you go with that
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig_ hey man im just waiting for the terminal to load for some reason
[03:45] <thejusticecow> gregg__: the movie i just downloaded "install software and enter keygen code" is what it says and there is a bin and cue file. can you point me in the right direction?
[03:45] <CarlFK> kingrayray: what makes you say ext3 for win has problems ?
[03:45] <errpast-wc1> Goal - connect remotely to my DD install in lab from cubicle.  Running realvnc on Windows in office.  Ubuntu DD with Xrealvnc in lab.  I can connect, BUT screen is smal and resolution poor
[03:46] <gregg__> thejusticecow: eh, no... maybe it's not a movie after all? ;)
[03:46] <kingrayray> CarlFK: it made his partition report itself as NTFS after a long time of use, although the FS was still actually ext3.. i really can't say for sure if it was the driver, i just don't know what else it'd be
[03:46] <Warbo> thejusticecow: Pirating stuff eh? Well you could maybe run illegal warez in WINE, but I wash my hands of you :)
[03:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> :P
[03:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> lol
[03:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright
[03:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> I've got this webcam problem
[03:47] <thejusticecow> Warbo: its ummm a movie of my ummm aunties ummmm wedding, yes.
[03:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> cif webcam
[03:47] <Warbo> thejusticecow: Tell her to use Theora next time then :)
[03:47] <thejusticecow> Warbo: a wedding is a one off thing
[03:47] <Warbo> :)
[03:48] <bmanisk>  using IRC for the first time..came here to get help about tvtime app on ubuntu. am i at the right place?
[03:48] <Warbo> yes
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig_ why would konsole just sit there with no ability to type anything anywhere??? is there some other shell i can use from this knoppix cd
[03:48] <ryanakca> bmanisk: yes
[03:48] <Warbo> bmanisk: Is that the applet to get TV listings?
[03:48] <cr3> how do I wakeup a desktop from hibernate?
[03:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> press the power button
[03:49] <cwraig_> this will take you out of xorg but you hsould ge a termial press control alt F1 or F2
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[03:49] <cr3> Vliegendehuiskat: I did, do I need to press it for very long?
[03:49] <bmanisk> ok. tvtime was working on version 5 of ubuntu, but since i have installed this LTS version, audio is gone..
[03:49] <cwraig_> then go throgh from F1 to F8 to find the gui again
[03:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> nope
[03:49] <cwraig_> login as root
[03:49] <cwraig_> and in knoppix there is no apssword
[03:49] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: You can boot KNOPPIX with the line "knoppix 2" to go straight to a text console with no KDE loaded
[03:49] <timalot> thejusticecow: as long as it's legit :) , sudo apt-get install cdrdao ; cdrdao write mywedding.cue .... or something similar
[03:49] <Tomze>  bmanisk, gone ot just noise?
[03:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> cr3 only for a few till it powers on, cause hibernate powers off
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> root@ttyp0[/] # gpart -W /dev/hda /dev/hda where could i paste this to remember for when i do ctrl alt f1
[03:50] <bmanisk> Tomze, its just noise..
[03:50] <cr3> Vliegendehuiskat: hm, hibernate didn't quite poweroff in my particular case: the power button is still lit
[03:50] <Tomze> bmanisk: got the same problem with etch and sid and various kernels in debian.. and i heard others talk about it
 u know those high tech copy and paste tools made by bic
[03:51] <Tomze> bmanisk: it has something to do with tvtime/v4l..whatever.. loading the wrong module i was told.. but i did not find a fix yet
 better known as teh ball point pen
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> im a little slow on it at the mo
[03:52] <bmanisk> Tomze, do you think it has got to do with the bttv type of drivers?
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> to much alchohol
[03:53] <Tomze> bmanisk: people tell me... and it did try to load the right module manually by adding it to.. hmmm /etc/modules ? but i still got bad sound
[03:53] <DanaG> argh, my Gnome keyboard shortcuts aren't working.
[03:53] <Warbo> !keyboard
[03:53] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[03:53] <bmanisk> audio works in media players, so the problem has to be with bttv i guess..
[03:53] <johnm1019> whenever i start my computer totem loads, well i apt-get remove'd totem and its still coming up on boot -- thoughts?
[03:53] <DanaG> It's just any ones that involve alt-f1 or alt-f2 ("run" and "open menu").
[03:53] <dhan> guys where can i find all my files from my usb drive??
[03:53] <Tomze> bmanisk: yes.. its only in the bttv driver... i did try LOOOTS of other stuf
[03:54] <dhan> pls help me
[03:54] <dhan> thanks
[03:54] <Warbo> bmanisk: My BTTV card gives audio through a line-out which has to go to my soundcard's linein. Are you sure that is set up properly?
[03:54] <VanessaE> ahh good, I got this right on the first try :)
 its controll + alt + f1
[03:54] <Warbo> dhan: /media/something
[03:54] <dhan> where is that?
[03:55] <Warbo> dhan: In /
[03:55] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: AAAGGGH!!!
[03:55] <Warbo> dhan: Places>Computer
[03:55] <bmanisk> Warbo. my bttv card line out connects directly to the speakers
[03:55] <Tomze> Warbo: id DID try all the different line out... but i think its only on some chipsets bttv fails
[03:55] <mumbles> ok . my cd has been checked and it says it is fine - but i still cant install the base system
[03:55] <mc|amb> hi, could someone please help me.. my gnome's "quit" menu only shows Log Out, Lock Screen, Switch User and Hibernate... what should I do to get PowerOff and Restart back... thanks
[03:55] <Warbo> bmanisk: Oh, that solves that problem then :)
[03:55] <dhan> wait ill try
[03:55] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: now my computer is a stupid escher illustration of some sort
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig_ yeah i got that bit, im just checking the command the drive on the desktop says hdc1 next to it
[03:55] <Tomze> bmanisk: what chipset do you use?
[03:55] <mumbles> anyone know what the problem is?
[03:55] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: how do i restore my computer to a point back in time?
[03:55] <CyDrive> Can someone help me with php?
[03:56] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: With a flux capacitor
[03:56] <cwraig_> use hdc instead
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[03:56] <cwraig_> cydrive i can help ya
[03:56] <bmanisk> Tomaze: I am not sure about the chipset..i have pinacle PCTV card..some 3 years old.
[03:56] <VanessaE> Is there a specific trick to getting the official (pressed) Dapper CD to work with ALI/ULI SATA devices?  The correct kernel modules seem to load automatically, but there's no /dev/sda* devices nodes;  Manually creating the device nodes doesn't work.
[03:56] <DJAdmiral> Warbo: erm, what?
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> without the 1, like just hdc
[03:56] <dave__> I cant get xserver to start
[03:56] <mumbles> anyone been having problems installing ubuntu today? ie installing the base system ?
[03:56] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: ummm...   go       sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         wont reset it... but it will let you put the settings back like they were
[03:56] <Warbo> DJAdmiral: Back To The Future joke, sorry :)
[03:56] <Tomze> bmanisk: i got that one to.. but i was thinking about your mainboard
[03:57] <programcode> Has anyone here used xgl in ubuntu?
[03:57] <VanessaE> (same with Breezy btw)
[03:57] <timalot> programcode: yeah
[03:57] <programcode> can you help me with it
[03:57] <programcode> I can't get it to work
[03:57] <CyDrive> cwraig_: i sent you a private im
[03:57] <timalot> programcode: ok
[03:57] <Tomze> bmanisk: cause a got a abit motherboard with tv card = no problems.. but at a sis based motherboard i got the sound problem
[03:57] <programcode> timalot: can I PM you
[03:57] <timalot> programcode: ok
[03:58] <cwraig> yea it wont let me reply
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> I  ran ScumMVM and now my sound is gone (also the sound icon in the tray)
[03:58] <cwraig> hang on a sec
[03:58] <bmanisk> Tomaze: I dont think there is any hardware issue coz everything was working in earlier ubuntu release..its the release 6 that has got the problem
[03:58] <Warbo> Anybody know of a launcher-type thing, like the Gdesklets one but which actually works when I click it and not 10 minutes later? (gnome panel would be fine, but it's icons don't go above a certain size)
[03:59] <programcode> okay timalot did you get my pm
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig what now it just give me a list of the usage
[03:59] <bmanisk> Tomaze: I will try to used different versions of bttv driver ..may be that will help
[03:59] <timalot> programcode: no ... i am using gaim for irc... so i dont know if it works
[03:59] <dhan> after the media, what's next?
[03:59] <programcode> okay how about this could you just walk me through how to get it working?
[04:00] <Tomze> bmanisk: it MIGHT... i got this idea that the bug is maybe in the kernel
[04:00] <dave__> how do i use a web browser from shell
[04:00] <Warbo> !xgl > programcode
[04:00] <Tomze> bmanisk: modprobe -r bttv
[04:00] <Tomze> modprobe bttv card=39 tuner=0
[04:00] <Warbo> dave__: Install lynx
[04:00] <mandeep> dave__,  cant u just do firefox in teriminal
[04:00] <VanessaE> dave; try links or lynx
[04:00] <timalot> programcode: ok goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[04:00] <dhan> warbo pls help me
[04:00] <dave__> mandeep obviously
[04:00] <cwraig> paddy there is a few good lines here http://www.lugod.org/presentations/knoppix/  on page 20 - 23
[04:00] <Tomze> bmanisk: and i even added it to /etc/modules but no luck... please let me know if you find the fix ;)
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> ill take a look
[04:00] <dhan> after going to medai whats next so that i can view all my files from nmy usb
[04:00] <azureal> lo; if i plug in my flash drive, which command would i type to see where on /dev it is?
[04:01] <Warbo> dhan: If you drive has been mounted automatically then it should be obvious where it is
[04:01] <dave__> everytime i run updates xorg.conf fails to load
[04:01] <Warbo> dhan: If not then you may need to mount it automatically
[04:01] <mc|amb> hi, could someone please help me.. my gnome's "quit" menu only shows Log Out, Lock Screen, Switch User and Hibernate... what should I do to get PowerOff and Restart back... thanks
[04:01] <dhan> i can't find it
[04:01] <mandeep> anybody here get limewire workign on ubuntu
[04:01] <dave__> and I have to figure out what changed and why nothing works
[04:01] <Warbo> I mean manually :)
[04:01] <timalot> programcode: follow that... if u run into any probs or have a question ask me
[04:01] <dave__> mandeep yes I have limewire working
[04:01] <dave__> when xserver starts
[04:01] <mandeep> did u get  adeb pckg for it
[04:01] <Warbo> dhan: Is it the only USB/SATA/SCSI drive in your computer?
[04:01] <TheGateKeeper> mc|amb: log out
[04:01] <dave__> but im stuck in shell
[04:01] <scrappy_> astro_-: i do "ls -t /dev | head" sometimes
[04:02] <dhan> yup
[04:02] <dhan> its already plugged
[04:02] <dave__> i went to the limewire site and downloaded the deb package yes
[04:02] <bmanisk> Tomaze: ok can you point me to some documentation?
[04:02] <Warbo> dhan: Then in a terminal run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=yourusername" (where yourusername is actually your Ubuntu username) and then look in /mnt
[04:02] <ed1t> !java
[04:02] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:03] <mc|amb> TheGateKeeper; that doesn't work i've had that problem for a week or two(i've restarted a lot of times) sorry
[04:03] <timalot> azureal: dmesg
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> someone?
[04:03] <Alexander> i deleted my networkmanager icon out of the task bar thing, how do i get it back?
[04:03] <dave__> actually mandeep
[04:03] <VanessaE> did anyone see my question?
[04:03] <mandeep> ?
[04:03] <dave__> I use the java versionb
[04:03] <mandeep> o
[04:03] <mandeep> im trying to configure it right now
[04:04] <mandeep> so hopefully it workks
[04:04] <dave__> and I have a link that says java -jar limewire.jar
[04:04] <azureal> timalot: i have an alias that tails /var/log/messages
[04:04] <mandeep> i tried frostwire but it would never load for me
[04:04] <Warbo> VanessaE: I saw it but don't know anything about SATA
[04:04] <Alexander> i deleted my networkmanager icon out of the task bar thing, how do i get it back?
[04:04] <azureal> timalot: i think this time it said SCSI device sdb... perhaps it's on /dev/sdb
[04:04] <VanessaE> oh ok
[04:04] <azureal> timalot: how do i confirm this
[04:04] <ed1t> !java
[04:04] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:04] <dave__> i swear to god NVIDIA and ubuntu dont get along
[04:05] <timalot> azureal: dmesg will print the device name assigned to the usb device...
[04:05] <dhan> it says it is a directory
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> cwraig im a little confused
[04:05] <Warbo> mandeep: Try gtk-gnutella, it's really fast and doesn't need java
[04:05] <dave__> gnutella is horrible
[04:05] <azureal> timalot: yea, true, just before you wrote this, I found sdb1 in dmesg output =P
[04:05] <dave__> the p2p network is crap
[04:05] <mandeep> whats bad about it
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> dave__: neither do ATI and ubuntu lol
[04:05] <mandeep> o
[04:05] <TheGateKeeper> mc|amb: sounds like something is broken not sure how you fix it. Should be shut dwon safely using terminal and entering: shutdown now
[04:05] <dave__> uhh try never getting a download over 12kb/s
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: thanks. it's working-ish now.
[04:06] <dave__> limewire i rarely have anything less than 200kb/s
[04:06] <VanessaE> it's weird, I made the changes to my (compiled) kernel to allow for SATA, rebooted with it, copied the system over from my old IDE disk to the new SATA disk, made the usual changes to fstab to get it to run from the new disk, and it just worked fine
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> i dont think any graphics card works without having to learn linux inside out
[04:06] <Alexander> i deleted my networkmanager icon out of the task bar thing, how do i get it back?
[04:06] <bmanisk> Is anybody using ubuntu-calender? I installed it using synaptic and now I cant find it
[04:06] <ryanakca> DJAdmiral: sorry, no clue what's wrong... hmmm... time for a hardware upgrade?
[04:06] <VanessaE> so I guess that means the kernel included with the dapper CD is just broken?
[04:06] <thejusticecow> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH <-- how do i fix this?
[04:06] <dave__> DJADMIRAL: do you find that everytime you run updates your xorg.conf gives you errors
[04:06] <Warbo> The latest MLDonkey (2.7.7) has fixed gnutella support, so it can be used for donkey, overnet, bittorrent, gnutella, gnutella 2, regular http/ftp and I think a few others
[04:06] <DJAdmiral> ryanakca: i know you had nice intentions and all but I don't think I'll touch my video card settings again until I get a new laptop :)
[04:06] <VanessaE> justice: apt-get install build-essential
[04:06] <thejusticecow> thanks
[04:07] <mandeep> mldonkkey??
[04:07] <DJAdmiral> dave__: erm, no my xorg.conf is fine - now
[04:07] <Warbo> mandeep: mldonkey.sourceforge.net (DON'T use the mldonkey-server package in Ubuntu, it's broken)
[04:07] <dave__> Mine hasnt changed and suddenly today I cant boot again
[04:07] <mandeep> ill give it a try if limewire fails
[04:07] <miza> what means "No DHCPOFFERS received." "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." ?
[04:07] <dave__> donkey is worse than gnutella
[04:08] <Warbo> mandeep: However, you can use "sudo apt-get build-dep mldonkey-server" to get everything needed to compile mldonkey
[04:08] <dave__> mandeep just install the java jre package
[04:08] <programcode> timalot: request your help again, I followed there steps, log out click xgl log in, takes a second then it takes me back to the login screen
[04:08] <mandeep> i have it
[04:08] <mandeep> thats why im confused why nothing works
[04:09] <azureal> timalot: so thx =)
[04:09] <scrappy_> dave__: so everythings crap? :-)
[04:09] <dave__> and what happens when you run java -jar <limewirefile.jar>
[04:09] <Warbo> Donkey has older/rarer files than gnutella. Gnutella would probably be better for illegal stuff though
[04:09] <timalot> azureal: np
[04:09] <Warbo> dave__: Limewire is gnutella isn't it?
[04:09] <programcode> timalot: request your help again, I followed there steps, log out click xgl log in, takes a second then it takes me back to the login screen
[04:09] <dave__> no
[04:09] <dave__> and no
[04:09] <timalot> programcode: ok ... 1st try using ctrl-alt-backspace to restart the x server... then check out /var/log/xorg.0.log
[04:09] <Warbo> dave__: Then why does gtk-gnutella connect to Limewire users?
[04:10] <dave__> I download alot of music from limewire.. movies torrents (azureus) is best
[04:10] <dhan> warbo whats next?
[04:10] <Warbo> dhan: It should be in /mnt (Places>Computer>Filesystem?mnt)
[04:10] <Warbo> >mnt
[04:10] <mandeep> god damn java doesnt work
[04:10] <dave__> damnit mandeep what error do you get
[04:10] <dhan> it doesnt appear there
[04:10] <mandeep> no error
[04:10] <mandeep> when i open it
[04:10] <mandeep> its just a blank gray screen
[04:10] <Warbo> dhan: What does "mount | grep mnt" say?
[04:10] <timalot> programcode: sorry checkout ~/.xsession-errors
[04:11] <dhan> its empty
[04:11] <mandeep> it shows limewire border
[04:11] <dave__> in the terminal you type java -jar and the app
[04:11] <mvrick> how do i i add  hotkeys in ubuntu?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone help me fix grub on ubuntu with knoppix
[04:11] <dave__> brb
[04:11] <Warbo> dhan: It musn't be sda1 then. Was there an error when you ran sudo mount blahblah
[04:11] <Warbo> ?
[04:11] <programcode> timealot: I tried that and I can't find that log there is not log of even folder there
[04:11] <dhan> none
[04:11] <Warbo> !tell mvrick about keyboard
[04:11] <timalot> programcode: how bout ~/.xsession-errors
[04:12] <Terminus> mandeep: are you using sun java or gcj? if you're running limewire, running sun java will give you the least amount of trouble.
[04:12] <Warbo> dhan: Can you put the output of "dmesg | tail" into the pastebin please?
[04:12] <mandeep> i installed the java from automatix
[04:12] <Warbo> !tell dhan about pastebin
[04:12] <programcode> Nope
[04:12] <dhan> i dont know that
[04:12] <dhan> i dont know how
[04:12] <mandeep> o
[04:12] <Wanderer> hmm, last nights upgrades really screwed up my firefox fonts
[04:12] <Warbo> dhan: ubotu should have just told you
[04:13] <dhan> yes he/she told me already
[04:13] <programcode> timalot: I have a Nvidia Geforce 2 MMX, so this xgl should be able to work with it...right?
[04:13] <VanessaE> hm, looks like the ULI/SATA problem started upstream somewhere in Debian's realm...
[04:13] <Warbo> dhan: Then run dmesg | tail and copy/paste it's output into the pastebin website
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo could u help me fix my ubuntu drive as i lost my windows drive with the bootloader now i can only boot live cds
[04:13] <gnomefreak> !easysource > ed1t
[04:14] <timalot> programcode: according to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia_Cards , you should
[04:14] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: I have lost several drives recently. I wasn't able to fix any
[04:14] <YoussefAssad> quick procmail/maildir question: I must specify in my rules the maildir target with a trailing slash, yes? Like "subs/ubuntu/" for maildir where mbox-style would have been "subs/ubuntu" ? Is this correct?
[04:14] <dhan> where will i run that in the terminal?
[04:14] <programcode> maybe its the driver
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Warbo are they permanently screwew
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> *screwed
[04:14] <timalot> programcode: u are using method A from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl ?
[04:14] <programcode> how do I update my driver in Ubuntu for my video card
[04:14] <programcode> yes
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: got a windows CD?
[04:15] <Warbo> Paddy_EIRE: Maybe. I wouldn't like to say
[04:15] <programcode> I may need to update my driver how do I update my nvidia geforce 2 mmx in ubuntu?
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[04:15] <timalot> programcode: make sure u have made /usr/bin/startxgl.sh executable ... and that u have pasted in what says on that page
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper i have a windows cd
[04:15] <Warbo> programcode: I think geforce2 uses "legacy" driver
[04:15] <dave___> ok anyone get the error invalid connectedMonitor string "monitor"
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: try fixing the MBR
[04:15] <programcode> how would I update them in the termainl?
[04:15] <programcode> *terminal
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper the windows drive is screwed
[04:16] <timalot> programcode: there is a another wiki for that somewhere
[04:16] <Warbo> programcode: If you have it installed already then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will upgrade it, along with everything else
[04:16] <Terminus> works fine AFAIK
[04:16] <dhan> it says usb disconnected
[04:16] <johnm1019> whenever i start my computer totem loads, well i apt-get remove'd totem and its still coming up on boot -- thoughts?
[04:17] <programcode> Terminus how did you update your drives
[04:17] <Terminus> programcode: just install nvidia-glx.
[04:17] <dhan> warbo
[04:17] <Warbo> johnm1019: Look in System>Preferences>Session
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Paddy_EIRE i had ubuntu on seperate drive and i would like to save it if possible
[04:17] <Terminus> programcode: if that doesn't work, use nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:17] <programcode> Terminus: how do I do that, I am new to linux?
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> the win cd wont fix ubuntu
[04:17] <timalot> programcode: if u want latest drivers from NVIDIA use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[04:17] <Warbo> dhan: Have you put it into pastebin so I can have a look?
[04:17] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[04:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:17] <Terminus> programcode: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:18] <johnm1019> Warbo, its not listed under startup programs :-\
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> !grub > Paddy_EIRE
[04:18] <dhan> not yet beacause the usb was disconnected
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper this doesnt tell me what i need to know
[04:18] <kingrayray> boot a livecd, chroot, grub-install
[04:18] <kingrayray> right?
[04:18] <YoussefAssad> !ubuntu > YoussefAssad
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> kingrayray can i do it with the current knoppix live cd im in
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: have you looked in the ubuntu forums?
[04:18] <programcode> Terminus: I checked I got the latest
[04:19] <dave___> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper very few answers
[04:19] <kingrayray> Paddy_EIRE: probably, i don't know specifically what to do though.. haven't had to do it since i used gentoo.
[04:19] <dave___> nvm
[04:19] <dave___> just slow
[04:19] <Terminus> programcode: looks like you don't need to update then. :)
[04:19] <YoussefAssad> oh dear; I tripped up procmail
[04:20] <programcode> Timealot: whenever I do the  gksudo gedit on the startxgl.sh I get this warning
[04:20] <programcode> (gedit:22148): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:20] <programcode> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:20] <programcode> \
[04:20] <timalot> programcode: thats ok
[04:20] <programcode> okay well I did everything exactly with that page
[04:21] <programcode> But still can't log into xgl session
[04:21] <gnomefreak> programcode: use pastebin to paste things please
[04:21] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: can you mount your hard disk in knoppix, save your data then reinstall?
[04:21] <timalot> programcode: u installed the xserver-xgl
[04:21] <timalot> package
[04:21] <programcode> timealot: yeah says installed
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper cannot boot from live cd with windows drive plugged in so i have nothing to save to
[04:22] <thejusticecow> su: authentification failure <--- should this just be the same as my sudo apt-get pw?
[04:22] <dhan> waah!!!!!!!!!1i cant make it!
[04:22] <programcode> timealot: I just checked its installed
[04:23] <kingrayray> here's something i've wondered..
[04:23] <kingrayray> does sudo passwd root
[04:23] <kingrayray> count as a vulnerability?
[04:23] <NET||abuse> !bcm
[04:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about bcm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:23] <NET||abuse> !broadcom
[04:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper i would like to reinstall anyway as i didnt want my fs to be ext3
[04:23] <Warbo> dhan: There is a basic page about mounting stuff manually at help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount if it's any help
[04:23] <timalot> programcode:  ok when something goes wrong during an xsession (the point after u login) ... all errors go to .xsession errors ... but u cant login in again (in non-xgl mode) coz it will overwrite .xsession-errors... so u got to go to a terminal and look at it to see what error it is giving
[04:23] <Snake007uk> ok guys, i want to know if anyone has done this, i have 3 LCD screens connected via 2 cards one Nvidia and one ATI, all screen have same resolution etc...  I want to install ubuntu as my base OS and still ahve 3 displays (possibly with XGL) would this be possible ?
[04:23] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Rescue_FAQ
[04:23] <timalot> programcode:  ~/.xsession-errors
[04:24] <dhan> wait ill try again
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper grub is not mentioned
[04:24] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: you can't fix the MBR on your windows disc and boot into that?
[04:24] <dhan> after pasting the files whtas next??
[04:25] <shides> ciao
[04:25] <shides> sono italiano
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper windows drive is dead i think
[04:25] <dron> Hi, im forwarding application window from servidor to clients, and on some clients the font of that application are looking good but on other it looks bad, all clients are ubuntu, server suse, where should i search?
[04:25] <shides> vorrei il link del server italianjo
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper halts the comp
[04:25] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: and your ubuntu drive?
[04:25] <miza> can someone tell me whats wrong when ifup ra0 output looks like this? http://pastebin.ca/115311
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu drive fine but no boot record
[04:25] <kingrayray> dron: i could be wrong, never done remote Xsessions, but do all the clients have the same fonts installed?
[04:25] <Warbo> dhan: After you click send, copy the address and paste it into here
[04:25] <azureal> shides: #ubuntu-it
[04:26] <scrappy_> Snake007uk: youre clearly insane ;p
[04:26] <shides> grazie
[04:26] <dron> kingrayray Yes! it is
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: got data on it that you need to recover?
[04:26] <Snake007uk> scrappy_: http://www.linuxcraft.co.uk/room.jpg
[04:26] <Snake007uk> check out that link
[04:26] <dron> the same package fonts
[04:26] <dhan> then automatically the files woulb be in my usb?
[04:26] <mumbles> ok im getting fedup now
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah my hard work at getting ubuntu to run at descent level of satisfaction
[04:26] <Warbo> dhan: That will let me see what the error message says
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> alot of hours/days/weeks
[04:27] <dhan> ok wait
[04:27] <mumbles> I am getting problems installing ubuntu base
[04:27] <dron> when am forwarding an application to client, wich fonts are using? from server? or client?
[04:27] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: can't you install grub?
[04:27] <thejusticecow> i am not on a network i am the only user and installer, i use my password for sudo commands but it does not work for su, does anyone know why?
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe how?
[04:28] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: boot a live cd
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: use that FAQ to backup what you can then reinstall
[04:28] <programcode> timealot: I type that in terminal gives me a error
[04:28] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: you don't need to reinstall I think
[04:28] <scrappy_> Snake007uk: very nice
[04:28] <Krafturinn_> hi all
[04:28] <thejusticecow> !su
[04:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about su - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:28] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe im running from knoppix right now
[04:28] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[04:29] <programcode> timealot: if I type ~/.xsession in my terminla says file not found
[04:29] <Warbo> thejusticecow: su only works for super users (sudo su will work for example)
[04:29] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: then run grub. make sure menu.lst on your ubuntu parition is setup correctly
[04:29] <timalot> programcode: sorry it
[04:29] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper i can hardly backup my installed progs and customizations
[04:29] <dhan> an address will appear?
[04:29] <timalot> programcode: it's ~/.xsession-errors
[04:29] <mwe> !grub
[04:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:29] <thejusticecow> Warbo: but i have only gave this computer one password.. how can i not know the password for su ?
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe where is grub to run
[04:30] <neviedais> !damn
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about damn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:30] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: do what mwe says
[04:30] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:30] <neviedais> !dpkg
[04:30] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:30] <timalot> !whoami
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about whoami - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:30] <mwe> Paddy_EIRE: read that. it applies to you as well
[04:30] <programcode> timealot: still no such file or directory, where is that at
[04:30] <neviedais> Sweet...
[04:30] <miza> can someone tell me whats wrong when ifup ra0 output looks like this? http://pastebin.ca/115311
[04:30] <Warbo> thejusticecow: The password will not work regardless of what it is. Su is disabled for non-super users, just that the error it gives is "wrong password"
[04:30] <kingrayray> programcode: open the file in a text editor.
[04:30] <kingrayray> i.e. gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[04:30] <Krafturinn_> i have been trying to install yelp again
[04:30] <Krafturinn_> no luck
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> i cant restore the original boot record from the other drive as it isnt working and ive read these tutorials guys
[04:31] <thejusticecow> Warbo: how do i become a super user?
[04:31] <dxdemetriou> for 64bit processors, each program from apt is 64bit?
[04:31] <funkmaster> hi there i have a problem when i use sudo i get: funky1 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:31] <funkmaster> how can i fix this?
[04:31] <programcode> kingrayray: I can't even find the file.... Timealot: where is the file suppose to be at?
[04:31] <neviedais> !dd
[04:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about dd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:31] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: when mwe has sorted you out go and have a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[04:31] <marce59> hi guys ! I have a problem. I'm installing a LAMP (Linux/Apache/MySQL/Php), but when I go to Firefox and try to execute my test script, an error message "call to undefined function mysql_connect() appears", what configuration file do I need to touch ?
[04:31] <Warbo> thejusticecow: sudo
[04:31] <Krafturinn_> E: The package yelp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:31] <thejusticecow> Warbo: k, thanks
[04:31] <mwe> miza: it's probably misconfigured. is it wireless?
[04:32] <neviedais> marce59, try: # apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-mysql mysql-client mysql-server mysql-admin phpmyadmin
[04:32] <miza> mwe: yes, wireless
[04:32] <longwave> marce59: have you installed the php5-mysql package?
[04:32] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: package name?
[04:32] <marce59> neviedais: thanks
[04:32] <mwe> miza: fix /etc/network/interfaces. paste it at the pastebin if you have to
[04:32] <Krafturinn_> thegatekepper: I am trying to install yelp
[04:32] <marce59> longwave: yes, thanks
[04:32] <timalot> programcode: it's at /home/<your username>/.xsession-errors this can be abbreviated to ~/.xsession-errors ... it is  a text file containing the errors
[04:33] <programcode> timealot: Well it keeps give me file not found
[04:33] <Warbo> dhan: Sorry I missed you. The address in the location bar will change when you click send
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe i cannto mount ubuntu drive with the ubuntu cd, although i can with knoppix
[04:33] <miza> mwe: here http://pastebin.ca/115322
[04:34] <timalot> programcode: how bout u make me a login on your machine and ill take alook :)
[04:34] <jimcooncat> is there a quick way to purge a new installation back down to the basic server level? maybe "sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop"?
[04:34] <funkmaster> hi there i have a problem when i use sudo i get: funky1 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. how can i fix this, i could use sudo b4, but i think i probably changed it somehow...
[04:34] <programcode> timalot: how do I do that?
[04:34] <dhan> here :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19692
[04:35] <Warbo> jimcooncat: aptitude gets rid of unneeded dependencies, but I think each major package is installed "manually" (ie. they are not counted as merely dependencies of ubuntu-desktop)
[04:35] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: apt-get install yelp should do it, suggest you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <dhan> warbo
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> mwe is there anyway i cna put supergrub on usb stick and then boot from that and restore
[04:35] <dhan> i sent the address
[04:36] <jimcooncat> Warbo, how about purging xorg?
[04:36] <Warbo> funkmaster: Make sure you are in the group "admin", and make sure admin can use super user priviledges in visudo
[04:36] <Warbo> jimcooncat: purging just removes config files. Removing xorg would probably get rid of loads of stuff
[04:36] <jimcooncat> I want an environment like I did a server install
[04:37] <Warbo> jimcooncat: debfoster lets you REALLY control what stuff is installed (but on a system with loads of packages installed it can take a while)
[04:37] <dxdemetriou> I think to buy one 64 bit cpu, but I don't know what happens with the 32 bit programs. In synaptic are all 64 bit?
[04:37] <dhan> dude!!
[04:37] <programcode> timalot: how do I create it where you could have remote user to my machine, so maybe you could fix it
[04:37] <sproingie> great, now the uk archive is hanging.  anyone got an ubuntu archive that works?
[04:37] <Warbo> dhan: Ah, got it :) (I am doing stuff on other desktops, sorry)
[04:37] <jimcooncat> Warbo, I got time, I'll check out debfoster, thanks
[04:37] <dhan> so what will i do?
[04:38] <ed1t> do i need packages and sources in my sources.list?:
[04:38] <Warbo> dhan: What you seem to have done there is give me a list of your music files. It would be more useful if I could see "dmesg | tail" :)
[04:39] <programcode> Hey how do I mount a .cue or a .bin file in Linux?
[04:39] <daunt> is there an Ubuntu repository with tools for setting up a dyndns configuration?  i want to be able to access my new ubuntu machine from home ..
[04:39] <Warbo> !iso > programcode
[04:39] <trappist> programcode: use bchunk to convert it to a .iso
[04:39] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19693
[04:39] <dhan> what im doing is i need to transfer my music files to my usb
[04:39] <daunt> mount somefile.iso /mnt/somemountpoint -o loop,ro
[04:39] <dhan> how will i do that?
[04:39] <programcode> I want to just mount it in linux? how can I do that?
[04:39] <timalot> programcode: i was joking , look i dont know whats going on ... basically what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl tells u to do is 1. add the needed repos + install needed software , 2. make a file called /usr/bin/startxgl.sh that starts the xgl server  and a gnome-session .... 3. make a file /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop that points to the file in step 2 ... then u login ... if it doesnt work dont log in again....
[04:39] <Warbo> dhan: Yes, but showing me your music will not tell me why your USB drive is not mounting
[04:40] <daunt> programcode, see above
[04:40] <trappist> programcode: as I said, convert it to an iso.  then mount the iso as daunt said.
[04:40] <dhan> how is dmseg?
[04:40] <Warbo> dhan: Run "dmesg | tail" in a termianl and it will tell you stuff. Pastebin that stuff
[04:40] <daunt> anyone got a line on other repositories that are not mainstream?  like, i need dyndns and all that ..
[04:41] <timalot> programcode: pastebin /tmp/pasteme to show others whats going on
[04:41] <sproingie> ok, us.archive.ubuntu.com and uk.archive.ubuntu.com are now both hopeless
[04:41] <trappist> daunt: dyndns is a service, not a piece of software.  several packages that ship with ubuntu support dyndns.
[04:41] <sproingie> i'm starting to wonder if i shouldn't go back to solaris
[04:41] <daunt> trappist, i can't find any packages that offer dyndns service ..
[04:41] <trappist> daunt: apt-cache search dyndns
[04:41] <dhan>  what is the line between the dmesg and tail??
[04:41] <Warbo> sproingie: What about gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[04:42] <daunt> dhan, its the pipe symbole:  |
[04:42] <trappist> daunt: dyndns offers the service - these package just automate the maintenance
[04:42] <programcode> timealot: I don't understand how to pastbin please explain little more detailed, somewhat new to linux thx :)
[04:42] <sproingie> Warbo: i'll give it a try.  i need to find some kind of archive status page
[04:42] <Tomze> trappist: what package?
[04:42] <dhan> pipe symbol??
[04:42] <daunt> trappist, i've searched for dyndns with synaptic ..
[04:42] <Warbo> dhan: dmesg is huge, so tail only looks at the last bit. The line makes a "pipe" and it is above the \ for me (UK keyboard)
[04:42] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone give me a simple way of installing grub so i can boot back into ubuntu again
[04:42] <dhan> what is that and where id that?
[04:42] <trappist> Tomze: the ones returned by apt-cache search dyndns
[04:43] <timalot> !pastebin
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:43] <Tomze> trappist: bahhh.. you really want me to go to a new screen and type... damn your tough ;)
[04:43] <trappist> daunt: see pmsg
[04:43] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: put this into terminal and tell me what it return please: cat /etc/issue
[04:43] <timalot> i wonder how many times !pastebin has been typed in this channel
[04:43] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  it says " Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l "
[04:44] <dhan> got it
[04:44] <dhan> just wait for the address
[04:44] <sproingie> Warbo: also hanging.  i'm starting to suspect my isp, since sourceforge has been hanging too
[04:44] <VanessaE> question:  suppose I mount the dapper ISO via loopback..  is there a proper place to put a new kernel image or two so that I can re-burn the ISO and boot it with the new image?
[04:44] <ced_> Hey there. Since the update this morning, suddenly my sound support stopped working in 6.06. Before, everything was working superb. I have no clue where to start troubleshoot. I also searched the forums, without success. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[04:44] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: well no wounder you have got it mainly pointing at breezy repos
[04:44] <programcode> tiemalot: here is my pastbin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19695
[04:44] <Warbo> sproingie: I've been using gb all day on and off. Not got any 404s or even long download times
[04:45] <sproingie> Warbo: hanging on connect, to pretty much every mirror.  but it's just ubuntu mirrors, beerorkid and security work just fine
[04:45] <dhan> heres the address
[04:45] <dhan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19694
[04:45] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  so, how do i fix this ?
[04:46] <sproingie> Warbo: i wonder if they're doing that proprietary ECN hack that linux did
[04:46] <killaman> hey i wondered if someone could help me. im installing ubuntu, and im at the partition screen, i wanna dualboot with windows,so i resized that partition, now i go to make the swap partition, but do i select Primary or Logical :S
[04:46] <frogzoo> ced_: run volume control - there will be a mute on the PCM or PCM-2
[04:46] <geekdom> 1)How do I take x out of the default startup
[04:46] <geekdom> 2)How do I forward the x to the system I am really on ?
[04:46] <Warbo> dhan: Looks like the drive was plugged in fine, then unplugged
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> !easy ubuntu
[04:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy ubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:46] <frogzoo> geekdom: install & man ssh
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu
[04:46] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:46] <maxx1> hi there... i just updated my kernel and it overwrote the lines in menu.lst which allow me to dual boot with windows..... can someone who also dual boots please let me have a look at their menu.lst?
[04:46] <dhan> wait
[04:46] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  : put drapper instead of breezy
[04:46] <trappist> is us.archive.ubuntu.com dead
[04:46] <timalot> programcode: its too hard... u need to use linux a bit longer ... come back to try getting xgl to work
[04:46] <geekdom> yboard of.
[04:47] <YoussefAssad> trappist: was not working for me, but that was some weeks ago
[04:47] <incandenza> killaman: you can use either...  but you can only have a max of 4 primary partitions
[04:47] <geekdom> How do I get the "X" out of the default bootup ?
[04:47] <dhan> i alreadt unplugged then plugged it
[04:47] <Paddy_EIRE>  TheGateKeeper cna i not just install grub on the knoppix drive the guides i have been givin do not appy
[04:47] <dhan> whats next?
[04:47] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: the version it has returns suggests that you already have dapper installed
[04:47] <killaman> well as far as i know dont i only need to make swap parttion and then main ubuntu parition?
[04:47] <incandenza> killaman: yes
[04:47] <Warbo> dhan: Are you in GNOME, KDE or XFCE (or something else)? *ie. Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu)
[04:48] <marce59> i installed these packages. But it doen't work. I think the problem is about config files. The message is "Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/apache2-default/prueba2.php on line 5
[04:48] <killaman> ohh right, cheers mate :)
[04:48] <frogzoo> killaman: you only want to create 3 primaries & 1 extended - & then make as many logical partitions as you need in the extended
[04:48] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  : yes I have drapper installed, but how do I point to the drapper packages instead of breezy
[04:48] <ced_> frogzoo: unfortunately there is no mute! thanks for the tip, though.
[04:48] <dhan> ubuntu
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: not sure never had to do it
[04:48] <incandenza> killaman: so if all you have is windows, swap, and linux root, you can just use 3 primary partitions, if you want
[04:48] <dhan> xfice
[04:48] <killaman> cool :)
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu > Krafturinn_:
[04:49] <frogzoo> ced_: well it's worth checking again - try volume control -> file -> change device
[04:49] <Warbo> dhan: I don't see why it isn't working automatically then. Anyway run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=dhan" and if there is any output then pastebin it
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu > Krafturinn_
[04:49] <gdb> Krafturinn_: "Dapper"
[04:49] <sproingie> oh well, us mirror responds now after long delays
[04:49] <ced_> frogzoo: nope, everythig is "on"
[04:49] <frogzoo> ced_: check the 'alsa' & the 'OSS' devices...
[04:49] <ced_> frogzoo: is there a command how I could test the sound card in raw mode..
[04:49] <yggdrasil> does anyone know how i can conver ogg to mp3 ?
[04:50] <Warbo> !info soundconverter
[04:50] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:50] <frogzoo> ced_: aplay's as good as any - or just go to sound preferences & test
[04:50] <daunt> apt-cache search dyndns <---- returns nothing.  is there some repository i don't have in place properly, or are these dyndns apps only available thorugh some other debian repos?
[04:50] <yggdrasil> warbo. i got that up and running but the mp3 button will not work ?
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: read the PM or do this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories PLF repos need correcting info here --> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[04:50] <Warbo> I am pretty sure there is a dyndns updater in Ubuntu (but for me it tried to update my address to 192.168.1.4 :) )
[04:50] <incandenza> daunt: looks like they are mostly in universe
[04:51] <Warbo> yggdrasil: You may need some more gstreamer0.8 codecs/plugins
[04:51] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  okay. thanks
[04:51] <dhan> whats the word after /mnt?
[04:51] <daunt> incandenza, universe?  i don't think i have it ..
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: yw :-)
[04:51] <incandenza> daunt: check /etc/apt/sources.list, it should be there but commented out by default
[04:51] <ced_> frogzoo: neither aplay nor the preferences test did work
[04:51] <Warbo> dhan: a hyphen, a lowercase O, then uid=dhan
[04:51] <marce59> neviedais: can you help me ?
[04:52] <Paddy_EIRE> In windows this would be solve already and id be working again now im on here reading guides that dont even apply to my prob which should be straight forward, I feel like ive been lied to by the linux community as i was led to believe that linux would be simple to maintain all i want to do is put a boot record on my ubuntu drive so i can boot my os
[04:52] <dhan> ok
[04:52] <yggdrasil> warbo is there some other converter lib i need to get installed ?
[04:52] <Paddy_EIRE> in windows fixmbr would do the trick
[04:52] <daunt> oh, damn.  okay, i've uncommented the universe repo's from my sources.list, doing an update, and will try again .. thanks ..
[04:52] <yggdrasil> paddy just boot from the live cd and then run grub
[04:52] <frogzoo> ced_: well try alsamixer
[04:52] <Warbo> yggdrasil: I think it may be a subliminal way to promote Ogg. I usually use command line tools like lame, ogg123 and stuff (dump to wav, then to MP3)
[04:53] <incandenza> daunt: yup, that should do it...  np
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil where do i run grub ????
[04:53] <yggdrasil> cmd line
[04:53] <programcode> can someone help me to get the bchunk command to work. I am trying to convert a .bin to .iso?
[04:53] <dhan> is there a space bet sudo mount and /dev?
[04:53] <yggdrasil> i think its called grubconf
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> just type grub
[04:53] <VanessaE> grub...eh *shudder*
[04:53] <Warbo> dhan: Are you chatting on your Ubuntu computer?
[04:53] <VanessaE> think I'll stick with lilo :)
[04:53] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[04:53] <daunt> programcode, man bchunk
[04:53] <dhan> yup
[04:54] <programcode> daunt I got bchunk, how do I use it
[04:54] <Warbo> Then select this: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=dhan        then press middle mouse button in a terminal
[04:54] <ced_> frogzoo: you're my hero! in alsamixer, the PCM channel was muted. but in the gnome volume application everything was ok. how did this happen??
[04:54] <gdb> VanessaE: What value does lilo add that grub does not?
[04:55] <yggdrasil> warbo i just got an mp3 player my old player was an ogg player so now i have a ton of oggs :(
[04:55] <VanessaE> gdb: well it's not that it may or may not add value...but for some reason, lilo just seems simpler to me :)
[04:55] <Warbo> yggdrasil: Serves you right :)
[04:55] <yggdrasil> got it cheap
[04:55] <sproingie> gdb: inability to read a filesystem, requirement of reconfiguring every time the boot sector is updated, why wouldn't everyone want lilo?
[04:55] <marce59> I've already remove the ; in front of extension=mysql.so in php.ini, but i don't know why the function call to mysql_connect() is undefined
[04:55] <yggdrasil> lets see then what is this grub conf
[04:55] <gdb> VanessaE: It is simpler, because it's far far less capable.  It's also, despite the simplicity, harder to manage.
[04:55] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil command not found
[04:55] <VanessaE> but then again, I've been using it for years and only messed with grub maybe twice.
[04:55] <sproingie> VanessaE: what's simpler than grub?  you don't have to rerun it every time you install a new kernel
[04:55] <yggdrasil> paddy are you on the live cd ?
[04:56] <sryan__> Are the servers in apt-get update having issues?
[04:56] <sryan__> I'm seeing timeouts.
[04:56] <frogzoo> ced_: did you check both devices in volume control? both alsa & oss? they're on different screens
[04:56] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[04:56] <Warbo> LILO is good if you want to remove Linux, since it is self contained
[04:56] <incandenza> sryan__: yes, word is they are overloaded
[04:56] <sproingie> sryan__: so it's not just me.  the us and uk mirrors both are hanging
[04:56] <arkangelp> does anyone knows the channel where I can go to het help on nickserv and chanserv?
[04:56] <sryan__> incandenza: Oh, no big deal.  I wonder why the overload?
[04:56] <ced_> frogzoo: yeah i did!
[04:56] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire msg me
[04:56] <sproingie> sryan__: they'll respond if you give 'em a minute or so per connect
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil im running from the Knoppix Live DVD
[04:56] <yggdrasil> hate to see anyone discouraged so bad
[04:56] <dhan> this is the msg
[04:57] <incandenza> sryan__: dunno.  "sudden spike in ubuntu popularity" is all I've heard :)
[04:57] <yggdrasil> oh knoppix huh
[04:57] <gdb> "Well, I don't know what value the car adds to my life, I think I'll just stick with my horse and buggy!"
[04:57] <ced_> ah great
[04:57] <dhan> dhan@cameron:~$  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=dhan
[04:57] <dhan> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[04:57] <dhan> dhan@cameron:~$
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil only because i was told that i may need it
[04:57] <ced_> frogzoo: .... PCM was under "Recording" and not under "Playback"
[04:57] <yggdrasil> well thats the equivvelant of running a 98 cd to fix a windows xp proboblem
[04:57] <frogzoo> VanessaE: read the grub docs - once you know what's going on, grub's really nice
[04:57] <Warbo> dhan: Are you SURE it is plugged in?
[04:57] <yggdrasil> just msg me
[04:57] <sryan__> incandenza: That may be true... :)  It's surely gaining traction fast..
[04:57] <dhan> yup
[04:57] <VanessaE> frog: I might do that some time :)
[04:57] <ced_> frogzoo: i never checked the "Playback" section of the volume manager.. why should i have? :o)
[04:57] <gdb> VanessaE: Seriously, you'll be doing yourself a favor by learning grub.
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil oh so i wont listen to that guy again
[04:57] <sproingie> incandenza: last update i did included a new kernel source, which is 44 megs.  i think ubuntus mirrors arent quite as bandwidth-endowed as debian's
[04:57] <ced_> frogzoo: thanks for your friendly help!
[04:58] <gdb> VanessaE: lilo is ancient "dustbin of history" technology. ;-)
[04:58] <frogzoo>  ced_ no probs, have fun
[04:58] <VanessaE> hehe
[04:58] <dhan> waah
[04:58] <Warbo> dhan: try "sudo modprobe usb-storage" then try again (pressing up will go to the previous command)
[04:58] <dhan> i surrender
[04:58] <ced_> frogzoo: you too, good-bye
[04:58] <incandenza> sproingie: yeah, maybe that is it
[04:58] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19697
[04:58] <azureal> lo, was wondering if stopping the output of "tail -f" could somehow be done by hitting 'q'... is it relatively easy to expand an alias to accomplish this?
[04:58] <yggdrasil> paddy you can use it . but you need to know how to do it. just like if you were doing the the 98 flppy to fix a xp problem
[04:58] <sorush20> why do I keep getting these x errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19697
[04:58] <dhan> maybe i will do it next time
[04:58] <programcode> hey how do I mount a iso in ubuntu, daunty I lost what you type?
[04:58] <gdb> VanessaE: To be fair, when it was being introduced, my first thought was, "wth is this?  lilo works just fine!"
[04:58] <VanessaE> yeah I know, but then again so are my computing skills in general (I come from a very short line of Commodore users...at least back in "the day" :D )
[04:58] <dhan> thanks for the time and effort warbo
[04:58] <dhan> tc
[04:58] <sproingie> incandenza: they really need to add bittorrent to apt.  considering dapper ships with it, there's no excuse
[04:58] <yggdrasil> paddy whats the real problem are you trying to remove linux or did you some how bork up your boot record ? or dual boot
[04:58] <Warbo> dhan: Maybe file a bug if you are sure it is pluged in. Include output from "dmesg | tail" and "mount"
[04:59] <frogzoo> !iso
[04:59] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:59] <gdb> Commodore brought us the Amiga!
[04:59] <incandenza> sproingie: hmm, that could be interesting.  could get a bit complicated, though
[04:59] <sproingie> incandenza: it would be a lose for small files, but it'd save bandwidth
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil i had windows on primary hd and ubuntu on secondary, windows drive died all of a sudden and now i cant boot ubuntu drive
[05:00] <VanessaE> at any rate...sooner or later I'll learn grub...I just keep putting it off :)
[05:00] <yggdrasil> ohhhh k.... let me think about that one.
[05:00] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: load up grub from a live cd
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> so people keep saying
[05:00] <yggdrasil> frogzoo hes only got aknoppix disk
[05:00] <marce59> hi, folks ! anybody can help me ? the question is : the error message "Call to undefined function mysql_connect() ", why Apache or php can't find mysql_connect in my system ?
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> i have ubuntu aswell
[05:00] <sproingie> incandenza: it should do a content negotiation, so if the mirror wants to, it could send back a torrent instead of the actual file
[05:00] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: d/l RIP
[05:00] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  it fixed this yelp thingie thx again
[05:00] <frogzoo> ... or the live cd, but RIP is quick 2 d/l
[05:00] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire what version ?
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> i have official ubuntu live cd
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> dapper
[05:01] <yggdrasil> oh well wtf are you doing boot that up
[05:01] <VanessaE> ah 12 seconds and my copy of knoppix will be in...
[05:01] <incandenza> sproingie: there'd have to be a way to arrange for you to stay on the torrent after the apt-get is done
[05:01] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: yw :-) gald to hear you are back in  buisness
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> yggdrasil iwas told that it wouldnt do it so i reboot to knoppix
[05:01] <yggdrasil> warbo i just figured that its because mp3 isnt a free format it has restrictions on distribution.
[05:02] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire .. sorry . just boot up the live cd and you should be good to go in a bit
[05:02] <dave_dan> Hello I was hoping someone knew how to maintain desktop settings such as background between boots
[05:02] <sproingie> incandenza: you'd just configure it in apt.conf, Apt::Get::Torrent
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Im gonna boot ubuntu cd again then use gaim :( to talk on this chan
[05:02] <yggdrasil> Warbo can i msg you ?
[05:02] <yggdrasil> paddy_eire .. my msg is ygg@yggtech.com
[05:02] <yggdrasil> uh msn
[05:02] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  I still have a little error in my sources.list
[05:03] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: which is?
[05:03] <yggdrasil> frogzoo whats the cmd from the live cd to install grub ?
[05:03] <Krafturinn_> lemme put on pastebin i just installed webboard
[05:03] <frogzoo> yggdrasil: I just boot the OS & reinstall grub from there
[05:03] <sproingie> incandenza: probably include a dpkg-reconfigure wizard to do the settings.  it's something i should try doing myself, but it's probably easier to keep it out of the fetch process and just use it to build an offline mirror
[05:03] <yggdrasil> is it apt-get install ?
[05:04] <yggdrasil> frogzoo
[05:04] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[05:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:05] <incandenza> sproingie: yeah, that could work
[05:05] <sproingie> incandenza: would be hard to get the adoption rate needed for it to be worth it tho
[05:06] <sproingie> incandenza: building it into the distro and on by default seems the only way
[05:06] <daunt> thanks for your help dudes .. its outta here time ..
[05:06] <frogzoo> yggdrasil: 'root hd(0,0) ; kernel /boot/vmblah<tab complete>xxx root=/dev/hda ro   ; initrd /boot/init<tab complete>xxx ; boot '   & you're away
[05:07] <yggdrasil> yea reading it...
[05:07] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19698
[05:07] <yggdrasil> ill try and help the dood out.
[05:07] <neopsyche> hello
[05:07] <yggdrasil> just hurts me to see peopl get bitter at lin
[05:07] <neopsyche> can someone please help me with an email header question
[05:07] <neopsyche> I would like to know if there is a way to download only email headers using mozilla mail and then delete the ones that are spam.. sort of the same way a person could if they are using a usenet server.
[05:07] <neopsyche> can anyone help with this issue..
[05:08] <sproingie> neopsyche: mozilla's spam filter requires the body.  best solution is to run antispam on the server side
[05:08] <neopsyche> hmm.. im unsure about spamfilters..
[05:08] <sproingie> neopsyche: you can always set it to download headers only and manually delete subjects.  or use the lousy filter mechanisms
[05:09] <neopsyche> YES how do i do that?
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: who didn't read the last bit of my message :-) need to correct PLF repos look here ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[05:09] <neopsyche> how do i download headers only?
[05:09] <sproingie> neopsyche: havent used it in a while, but i think the headers-only setting is in the properties for the mail account
[05:09] <neopsyche> not on Usenet but on pop
[05:09] <neopsyche> servers
[05:09] <sproingie> neopsyche: and it's for IMAP.  i doubt it will work on pop
[05:09] <neopsyche> thanks
[05:09] <neopsyche> will check it out
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: see where it says: he none-free repos should corrected to be as follows:   ?????
[05:10] <Snake007uk> can i run XGL on a Silicon motion graphics cad
[05:10] <sproingie> Snake007uk: probably not.  it's for specific nvidia and ati cards only ATM
[05:11] <Snake007uk> ok i see
[05:11] <Snake007uk> thnx
[05:11] <Snake007uk> Nvidia FX550 should be supported though ?
[05:11] <Snake007uk> Nvidia Quadro
[05:11] <marce59> warbo, can you help me >
[05:11] <neopsyche> hmm dont seem to see any obvious options
[05:12] <sorush20> hi guys is there a package called libatk-bridge around?
[05:13] <frogzoo> sorush20: there's bridge-utils ...
[05:13] <zsh> the default speed for writing a cd is set to maximum possible on gnome/nautilus. how do i change that
[05:13] <incandenza> sorush20: there's a libatk1.0-0, maybe that includes it?
[05:13] <sproingie> Snake007uk: look at the xgl docs and see if it's on the list.  if not, it won't work
[05:13] <sproingie> !xgl > Snake007uk
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> Krafturinn_: have to scoot, be back shortly :-) correct your PLF repos and you should be fine or comment them out by putting a # at the begining of the line
[05:14] <marce59> i've installed apache mysql and php, but when i go to firefox and browse to my script file prueba2.php (it tries to connect to a mysql database) the error is call to undefined function mysql_connect()
[05:14] <frogzoo> zsh: you can set speed using k3b &/or cdrecord
[05:14] <Snake007uk> sproingie:  got a link ?
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> im back now in ubuntu  livecd
[05:15] <zsh> frogzoo, r those programs i need to install.
[05:15] <incandenza> is there a way, from the command line, to see the list of files installed by a particular package?
[05:15] <sproingie> Snake007uk: check out the wiki link ubotu gave you.  it's a great starting point
[05:15] <frogzoo> zsh: not just you, everyone needs to install k3b, they just don't know it yet :D
[05:16] <frogzoo> incandenza: dpkg -L package_name
[05:16] <Lacasito> one of the options of apt-get, i don't know which one, look the man pages
[05:16] <VanessaE> I don't - our only burner is in my husband's box and he already has k3b ;)
[05:16] <Krafturinn_> TheGateKeeper:  : it works now :)
[05:16] <clever> how do i get a network card to start working using a certain kernel module?
[05:16] <zsh> Fracture, thats a kde program, i'm on gnome
[05:16] <incandenza> frogzoo: ah, nice, thanks.
[05:16] <zsh> Fracture, sorry i meant frogzoo
[05:17] <incandenza> frogzoo: what about for one that's not installed yet?
[05:17] <frogzoo> zsh: it comes with its own libs, but it's pretty sizeable
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[05:17] <VanessaE> clever: load the module ("modprobe xxxxxxx") and configure the devide using "ifconfig" and/or "route"
[05:18] <VanessaE> device..
[05:18] <clever> ive allready loaded 3c589_cs.ko and i dont know what cmd to use with ifconfog/route
[05:18] <VanessaE> usually something like:  ifconfig eth0 up  192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0   will get you started
[05:19] <VanessaE> (change the IP address to suit you)
[05:19] <Sammylvz>  hi
[05:19] <clever> eth0 is allready up on the main network card
[05:19] <Paddy_EIRE> this has gone on maybe a little to long bad suggestion back to windies then
[05:19] <clever> and eth1 doesnt appear to exist
[05:19] <VanessaE> ok, then use eth1
[05:19] <VanessaE> hm
[05:20] <gdb> clever:
[05:20] <gdb> er
[05:20] <gdb> clever: What does 'ifconfig eth0' say?
[05:20] <frogzoo> clever: usually just editing /etc/network/interfaces should get your nic up with 'sudo ifup ethx'
[05:20] <clever> it shows the ip for the internal network card
[05:20] <clever> i currently have 2 network cards in the laptop
[05:21] <Sammylvz> i 4got how 2 get on 2 offtopic plz can some1 help me plz xx
[05:21] <gdb> clever: So you have eth0 working but not eth1?
[05:21] <clever> yeah
[05:21] <frogzoo> clever: so copy the exsting i/f defintion in /etc/network/interfaces & make a new one for the new i/f
[05:21] <VanessaE> sammy: for G-D sakes don't type in IM speak
[05:21] <gdb> Sammylvz: If you're going to talk like a 23 year old on AOL, I'm afraid I can't help you get to offtopic.
[05:21] <gdb> er 13 year old
[05:21] <YoussefAssad> heh
[05:21] <clever> root@laptop:/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia# ifup eth1
[05:21] <clever> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.ost
[05:21] <gdb> clever: Are they the same type of hardware?
[05:22] <clever> eth0 is internal to the laptop
[05:22] <clever> eth1 is a pcmcia card
[05:22] <gdb> clever: Or different brands?  ie; two Intel EtherExpress, or one NE2000 and one 3COM?
[05:22] <Sammylvz> gbim not 23 im 14
[05:22] <clever> i think there both 3com
[05:22] <VanessaE> clever: anything in dmesg that reacted to the modprobe for the other card?
[05:22] <clever> and i had them both working before on breezy badger
[05:22] <incandenza> Sammylvz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:22] <frogzoo> clever: oh, pcmcia - not sure how that works
[05:22] <gdb> incandenza: Did you really have to do that?
[05:22] <clever> ive loaded pcmcia.ko and root@laptop:/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia# ifup eth1
[05:22] <clever> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.ost
[05:22] <clever> ops wrogn paste
[05:23] <incandenza> gdb: is that a problem?
[05:23] <Sammylvz> gdb: Im not talking lik a 23 year old im only 14 xx
[05:23] <VanessaE> sammy: even worse - we can help but for your own benefit, type like you learned to in English class, not like you learned off those IM programs please
[05:23] <gdb> Sammylvz: I said 13.
[05:23] <clever> ive loaded pcmcia.ko and 3c589_cs.ko and the card is a 3c589D
[05:23] <gdb> incandenza: Yes.  AOL-speak is the height of annoying.
[05:23] <clever> and it worked fine in breezy badger
[05:23] <incandenza> gdb: easier to just answer his question and let him leave than get in a big argument
[05:23] <gdb> incandenza: I'm in both channels, so he's not "leaving" from my perspective. :-(
[05:24] <incandenza> gdb: well...  there's always /ignore :)
[05:24] <Sammylvz> gdb: no u did not read wat u said
[05:24] <gdb> Sammylvz: No, you obviously didn't.
[05:24] <gdb> 10:21 < gdb> er 13 year old
[05:24] <gdb> Sammylvz: please review your scrollback buffer.
[05:24] <gdb> incandenza: Good idea on the /ignore.
[05:25] <sorush20> connecting to ubuntu archive.ubuntu.com is taking a long time..
[05:25] <sorush20> is there something wrong?
[05:25] <Rensato> hey can someone help me install ubuntu? i couldn't get pass trough the partition thingy xD
[05:25] <Sammylvz> gdb:it says 23 i not think incandenza:im not he im she
[05:25] <gdb> sorush20: There have been a number of folks experiencing delays with updates, package installations, and the like over the last few days.
[05:26] <sorush20> gdb: thanks..
[05:26] <sorush20> is there anywhere I could check the status..
[05:26] <incandenza> Sammylvz: sorry, "she"
[05:26] <gdb> sorush20: Yeah, not sure what the issue is.  You can "work around it" by changing the prexing country codes in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[05:26] <Sammylvz> kk
[05:26] <yggdrasil> paddy eire got busy sorry...
[05:26] <gdb> Sammylvz: I said "not if you talk like a 23 year old" and then "er, I mean 13 year old"  Wrap your brain around it, m'kay?
[05:27] <yggdrasil> padd_eire <frogzoo> yggdrasil: 'root hd(0,0) ; kernel /boot/vmblah<tab complete>xxx root=/dev/hda ro   ; initrd /boot/init<tab complete>xxx ; boot '   & you're away
[05:27] <gdb> sorush20: Are you trying to use us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:27] <scheuri> hi al
[05:27] <scheuri> all
[05:27] <Sammylvz> gdb: ok by the im 14
[05:28] <gdb> Sammylvz: Great, glad to hear it.  I apologize for not caring.
[05:28] <Sammylvz> gdb: ok
[05:28] <scheuri> anyone tried to install freeciv (with aptitude) and actually play it? I dont find the the appropriate command to do so ("freeciv" or alike is NOT existant)
[05:28] <mikeubuntu> My gosh I like ubuntu - been doing computers as a business since 1992 - full time all windows till now - this is great
[05:29] <shriphani> hey did the ubuntu owner make a trip to space in 2002
[05:29] <neom> I was just watching Episode 1x18 of Veronica Mars, and they had a huge debate about OS X vs Ubunti...!
[05:29] <mikeubuntu> to the man running quality at ubuntu - you the man
[05:29] <gdb> scheuri: If the package name is "freeciv" you can look for appropriate commands with "dpkg -l freeciv | grep bin" -- that's liable to turn up something for you.
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> scheuri: dpkg -L freeciv (you will find the executable somewhere in /usr/games probably)
[05:29] <gdb> shriphani: Yes
[05:29] <neom> *Ubuntu
[05:29] <shriphani> wow
[05:29] <gdb> shriphani: Not really the "owner", but the founder of Canonical, yes.
[05:29] <shriphani> cool
[05:29] <gdb> yeah, dpkg -L, not -l
[05:29] <scheuri> gdb and h3sp4wn.
[05:30] <miza> whats wrong when my ifup ra0 output looks like http://pastebin.ca/115311 and my /etc/network/interfaces looks like this http://pastebin.ca/115322 ?
[05:30] <scheuri> gdb and h3sp4wn: thanks alot...quite hard to find if the bins are called "civ-client-gtk"...;)...thanks a lot
[05:30] <gdb> shriphani: His name is Mark Shuttleworth, he's South African, and is a self-made millionaire.
[05:30] <gdb> scheuri: sure thing!
[05:30] <shriphani> wow
[05:31] <mikeubuntu> Mark Shuttleworth is the quality guy? Great job!
[05:31] <gdb> shriphani: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth -- Is an interesting bio of him.
[05:31] <lnx^> hey, is there some alternative for the built-in VNC system in ubuntu? when i use my box remotely, the screen doesn't always update
[05:31] <Awesome-o2000> what the hell - is there a new release out or something?
[05:31] <gdb> mikeubuntu: No, that's Simon Law.
[05:31] <lnx^> i.e. 'old stuff is left on the screen'
[05:31] <mikeubuntu> ok
[05:31] <gdb> lnx^: I use freenx from seveas' respository.
[05:32] <kidbuntu> are the ubuntu servers are still overloaded?
[05:32] <distanceisdeath> hello, was their a bug with the broadcom drivers with the release of dapper?
[05:32] <gdbuntu> I'm just trying to fit in.
[05:33] <YoussefAssad> archive.ubuntu.com is giving me pain, so yea, looks like it
[05:33] <kidbuntu> distanceisdeath: why did you say that? is there a problem?
[05:33] <gdb> prefix a different country code.
[05:33] <kidbuntu> YoussefAssad: yeah me to. its preeeeeetty slowww
[05:33] <sfkhooper> hey all
[05:33] <sfkhooper> hey is this the right channel to get tips on how to resolve a compiler problem in ubuntu?
[05:33] <Seveas> !reposdown
[05:33] <ubotu> There are bandwith issues causing problems with security.ubuntu.com (and sometimes archive.u.c) -- please use a mirror
[05:33] <distanceisdeath> kidbuntu: i heard something about it and i cannot get wireless with dapper...although i never had wireless breezy was released
[05:33] <lnx^> gdb: thanks looks good. how do you connect to a host that has freenx?
[05:33] <CarlFK> I have mplayer installed - how do I make it the default app for .pls files?
[05:33] <lnx^> I guess xvncclient doesn't work?
[05:34] <kidbuntu> distanceisdeath: never heard that before. i never tried it also.
[05:34] <gdb> lnx^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:34] <gdb> lnx^: I don't know, I don't like VNC.
[05:34] <distanceisdeath> kidbuntu: well it is sucking
[05:34] <gdb> lnx^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> what is the cli command that will tell you what installed packages, if any, rely on the named package
[05:35] <lnx^> thanks, gotta RTFM
[05:35] <gdb> lnx^: Actually, I can send you my freenx.list file you can put it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:35] <gdb> lnx^: one sec
[05:35] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: bad
[05:35] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: seems you've arrived @ the right place
[05:35] <frogzoo> YoussefAssad: think bigger picture dude
[05:35] <lnx^> gdb: thanks, that'd be great!
[05:36] <gdb> lnx^: http://circe.inetdb.com/~cbell/freenx.list - put that file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d (it's a directory), then run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install freenx'
[05:36] <gdb> lnx^: sure thing
[05:36] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: I am
[05:36] <frogzoo> overloaded repos means unexpected growth... & capacity can always be added
[05:36] <gdb> lnx^: you'll need the freenx client on your other machine, also.  If that machine is Windows, you can get it from http://www.nomachine.com/
[05:36] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: in the bigger picture there's droves of n00bs seeing timeout errors which they don't understand
[05:36] <sfkhooper> frogzoo: saweet! help!!! my kdevelop says
[05:36] <sfkhooper> configure: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ programs.
[05:36] <sfkhooper> Check config.log for details - if you're using a Linux distribution you might miss
[05:36] <sfkhooper> a package named similiar to libstd++-dev.
[05:36] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: unexpected growth == bad. Growth == good
[05:36] <lnx^> gdb: thanks a lot, with that information i'll get quite far! ->
[05:37] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: please don't paste in to channel - it's a big no no - use pastebin instead
[05:37] <gdb> lnx^: sure thing!
[05:37] <frogzoo> !pastebin > sfkhooper
[05:37] <sfkhooper> yeah I just got that. sorry - newbie
[05:37] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: have you installed build-essential ?
[05:37] <sfkhooper> there's a package called build-essential?
[05:37] <azureal> ...
[05:38] <azureal> sfkhooper...have you ever used apt-cache search before?
[05:38] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[05:38] <UltraMagnus> hi, am having problems migrating my profile information from windows to linux (ubuntu) i have copied the contents of my windows profile to the "profile" folder in etc\firefox\ but now it only uses the imported settings when i run firefox with sudo
[05:38] <sfkhooper> just found it in KPackage, cool to install from there?
[05:39] <ZenMasterJG> hey all, i recently heard that ubuntu has built-in support for broadcom wireless chipsets, is this true?
[05:39] <peace-keeper> what should i install to play mp3s ?
[05:39] <frogzoo> UltraMagnus: use a firefox backup tool to backup your profile, just copying stuff willy nilly spells trouble
[05:39] <rki> amarok
[05:39] <ZenMasterJG> I've been struggling to get my wireless to work on FC5 for about a week now, and if it would just work on ubuntu, i would almost certainly switch distros
[05:39] <ColdDeath> peace-keeper: xmms
[05:39] <shawnr_> no amarok
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> XenMasterJG: What wireless chipset ?
[05:40] <shawnr_> if you want simplicity, rythbox
[05:40] <CarlFK> !tell me restricted formats
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell me restricted formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <ZenMasterJG> but i cant seem to find a compatability list anywhere on the website
[05:40] <UltraMagnus> frogzoo: uh, where is the backup tool?
[05:40] <ColdDeath> I haven't tried amarok, is it good?
[05:40] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: is the pope a catholic?
[05:40] <marce59> ! call to undefined function mysql_connect()
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about call to undefined function mysql_connect() - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: its a Broadcom, 4318, IIRC
[05:40] <Dimensions> hi how do i configure my Hp printer i have got all driver files for it via wlan card
[05:40] <ZenMasterJG> 4*** series, certainly
[05:40] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: :) Does it work OK on GNOME?
[05:40] <CarlFK> !restricted formats
[05:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:41] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: oh yes
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> ZenMasterJG: It won't just work you will need the firmware
[05:41] <frogzoo> !amarok > ColdDeath
[05:41] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Cool, I'll have to get it right away!
[05:41] <CarlFK> um.. .whats the trick to have ubotu msg someone?
[05:41] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: indeed you will
[05:41] <sfkhooper> frogzoo: ok, I installed build-essential
[05:41] <azureal> lo; do drives get mounted when the user logs in or @bootup?
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: any idea where i could get that in any kind of easy way? Broadcom linux drivers deem to not exist
[05:41] <frogzoo> !ubotu > CarlFK
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about > CarlFK - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> ZenMasterJG: There is a a wiki page about it under the wifidocs (get the recommended firmware file - that it mentions you will need for 2.6.17 and above)
[05:42] <azureal> (btw, one great thing about ubuntu is that it auto-detected my wireless card..)
[05:43] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: cool, that looks like it'll be a lot easier then dealing with ndiswrapper under FC5... i'll give it a shot. Thanks! :)
[05:43] <azureal> you don't know the hell i went through in gentoo....
[05:43] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Ok, its downloading now, with dependencies its over 90MB :)
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> ZenMasterJG: Alternatively if you update you fc5 to 2.6.17 - then the bcm43xx is part of the kernel (soft mac version)
[05:44] <hubba42> googling "ubuntu <question>" always brings up threads on the ubuntu forums.  this is the best way to start looking for ubuntu answers imho
[05:44] <azureal> hubba42: i agree
[05:44] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: which version ? 1.4.1 is latest available
[05:44] <forevertheuni> hi this is what I want to do. I don't have network in a computer for a moment so I want to download all the packages needed by alexandria to a directory and then to install it on the non-internet computer how can I do that? in a easy way
[05:44] <ZenMasterJG> h3sp4wn: cool, i'll check that out too.
[05:44] <azureal> sometimes i'm not sure what to search for, so i come here =)
[05:45] <peace-keeper> argh why on ubuntu everything is about half as fast as on win xp
[05:45] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: I'm not certain. I just did: sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:45] <gidim> Wow.
[05:45] <peace-keeper> eclipse takes 100 years to load
[05:45] <azureal> peace-keeper: liar!
[05:45] <peace-keeper> nah it's true
[05:45] <mikeubuntu> I wanted to be able to view CNN videos, installed Automatix, wow, really nice
[05:46] <azureal> well eclipse is an intense prog...
[05:46] <peace-keeper> opening windows, starting programs, everything slower than on windows
[05:46] <hubba42> if you dont know the right question how can you look for the right answer ;) i'll stop the socrates act, one of the key traits of a linux user is knowing where to find information that they need an answer to on the web, but irc is good too :-)
[05:46] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: that will work, but read the linkie for 1.4.1 instructions
[05:46] <peace-keeper> linux should stay a server os :)
[05:46] <gdb> It's not that it's "intense" it's Java.
[05:46] <azureal> peace-keeper: kde?
[05:46] <peace-keeper> gnome
[05:46] <azureal> still =)
[05:46] <gdb> peace-keeper: Stop trolling.
[05:46] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Ok, thanks for your help!
[05:46] <gidim> Hi. :)
[05:47] <gdb> gidim: Howdy, what's up?
[05:47] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: yw
[05:47] <yunosh> hi, where can i browse the repositories? the website is very sparse about that
[05:47] <azureal> peace-keeper: if you want speed, you would look for speed
[05:47] <azureal> *cough* fluxbox*
[05:47] <peace-keeper> i'm just wondering
[05:47] <frogzoo> yunosh: synaptic's very useful
[05:47] <peace-keeper> no offense, i like linux, but as a desktop os it's always slower than windows
[05:47] <gidim> gdb: Well, after lots of shopping around, talking to "experts", I've settled on Ubuntu as my freedom from WinXPhome.
[05:47] <yunosh> frogzoo: not from inside ubuntu, looking for a web site or ftp server
[05:47] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: firstly, you running the 386 kernel?
[05:47] <azureal> peace-keeper: but actually my gnome is pretty fast...your trolling is really vague
[05:47] <yorukaze> linux slower?
[05:47] <sfkhooper> frogzoo: installing build-essential solved all my problems - thanks so much ;)
[05:47] <gdb> gidim: ::-D
[05:47] <azureal> peace-keeper: first you have to tell us all the mistakes you made =)
[05:48] <peace-keeper> :)
[05:48] <peace-keeper> dont know
[05:48] <ColdDeath> gidim:  Good choice :)
[05:48] <frogzoo> sfkhooper: glad to here it, cheers
[05:48] <gidim> gdb: So, like, I'm clueless newb.
[05:48] <peace-keeper> kernel: 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[05:48] <peace-keeper> is that wrong ?
[05:48] <gdb> peace-keeper: Yes, because if you find Ubuntu slower than Windows, you've made a heck of a lot of mistakes / misconfigurations.
[05:48] <yhonatan> someone use kguitar?
[05:48] <hubba42> peace-keeper, i disagree, i administer over a hundred PC's and they become seriously slow after 6 months of usage
[05:48] <azureal> gidim: yes! i love clueless noobs
[05:48] <gdb> gidim: Good, you don't have any bad habits to break then. ;-)
[05:48] <peace-keeper> i configured nothing, just installed it, what could i have done wrong ?
[05:48] <sorush20> I'm using kubuntu what package should I install for gnome desktop to be install as well?
[05:48] <yorukaze> i'm a noob too
[05:48] <Avdi> linux desktops can be slow.  The difference is that youi have the option of running XFCE, or IceWM, or Ion, or wmii, or Fluxbox... etc. if you want great performance.
[05:48] <gidim> Okay, so I'm downloading the AMD64 desktop torrent, be done in an hour.
[05:49] <Dimensions> grrrrrrrrr how can i install my print on ubuntu laptop ??
[05:49] <gdb> peace-keeper: You've done something!
[05:49] <gidim> I have to find a CD to burn it to.
[05:49] <asdfkp> is there a way to check to see if you have nvidia or ati from the command line?
[05:49] <wermut> Question: Is it adviceful to have the home directory only not readable by others and how can that be accomplished?
[05:49] <Avdi> whereas there is no ROBUST way to strip down the windows desktop
[05:49] <yhonatan> need help with midi,someone can help me?
[05:49] <hussam> peace-keeper, even if linux is slower than windows xp, remember that winxp was released late 2001 when PCs were slower. and currently ubuntu is a lot faster than Vista
[05:49] <gdb> Dimensions: System > Administration > Printing
[05:49] <azureal> peace-keeper: how much swap did you make...how muchc ram do you have?
[05:49] <asdfkp> is there a way to check to see ifyou have nvidia or ati from the command line
[05:49] <Dimensions> gdb:  the printer tobe configured without wires
[05:49] <gidim> I've heard things about Vista that scare me.
[05:49] <frogzoo> wermut: sudo chmod 700 /home/dude
[05:50] <incandenza> wermut: it can be, if you have other users on your system that you don't want to see it.  and 'chmod 700 ~'
[05:50] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Thanks for showing me Amarok, it looks great and works well :)
[05:50] <DShepherd> is something up with the ubuntu servers?
[05:50] <mikeubuntu> I'm investigating installing XGL on my dapper, anybody like it? Good idea?
[05:50] <mcphail> DShepherd: yes
[05:50] <peace-keeper> swap: ram 768 mb, swap dont know
[05:50] <frogzoo> ColdDeath: & it gets better once you figure things out...
[05:50] <peace-keeper> i mean:
[05:50] <peace-keeper> ram 768 mb
[05:50] <peace-keeper> swap dont know
[05:50] <DShepherd> mcphail: do you know what exactly?
[05:50] <ColdDeath> frogzoo: Cool, I'm gonna fiddle with its options for a bit
[05:51] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: swap -s
[05:51] <peace-keeper> what does the k7 mean in my kernel name? is that bad ?
[05:51] <asdfkp> is there a way to figure out what kind of graphics card you have from the terminal
[05:51] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: swapon -s
[05:51] <Bison> hi
[05:51] <dserban> asdfkp: lspci
[05:51] <Dimensions> gdb: ??
[05:51] <zsh> asdfkp, lspci | grep nVidia
[05:51] <mcphail> DShepherd: no, but the british server is really crippled. i have changed my sources.list to point to the dutch servers
[05:51] <peace-keeper> 2gb swap
[05:51] <gidim> K7 always reminds me of Athlon.
[05:51] <Bison> What package contains normal microsoft fonts (times new roman, courier new, etc.)
[05:51] <zsh> asdfkp, lspci | grep ATI
[05:51] <gdb> Bison: msttcorefonts
[05:51] <peace-keeper> yeah i have athlon
[05:51] <Bison> gdb:thanks bunches
[05:51] <yggdrasil> does anyone know how to get soudconverter to convert to mp3s ? its blanked out or something
[05:51] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: means you're running the 64bit kernel - 64 bit can be painful, because there's more support for 32bit apps
[05:51] <gidim> I love AMD.
[05:51] <peace-keeper> but really, firefox, eclipse, thunderbird... everything about half as fast as on win xp
[05:52] <DShepherd> mcphail: ok. thanks for the info
[05:52] <gdb> Bison: I can't remember if it's in universe or multiverse, I think multiverse -- it depends on cabextract, another package that will install alongside it.
[05:52] <gidim> I have a new AMD64 2GHz, so I thought I'd get a 64-bit OS.
[05:52] <asdfkp> zsh that command didn't do anything?
[05:52] <mcphail> DShepherd: these things usually sort themselves out after a day or 2
[05:52] <azureal> your firefox is slow?!
[05:52] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:52] <sloncho> hi. using breeze. enabled muliverse and universe. it can not find rar. any ideas? or link to the package?
[05:52] <DShepherd> mcphail: yeah. i would thinks so too
[05:52] <zsh> asdfkp, so you dont have nvidia, try the next one
[05:52] <peace-keeper> hda is my winxp
[05:52] <asdfkp> zsh neither command did anything
[05:52] <gdb> sloncho: I think it's called something else in Breezy, but I can't recall what it is.  Have you done an apt-cache search rar after running apt-get update?
[05:53] <sloncho> gdb: no. i'll do
[05:53] <gidim> I made the switch to Opera8, 9, 9.1 from Firefox 1.5, so... :)
[05:53] <gdb> sloncho: kk
[05:53] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: so whichever is your linux drive
[05:53] <dmb> yo, is something wrong with archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:53] <zsh> asdfkp, so you dont have nvidia nor ati
[05:53] <gidim> I'm happy.
[05:53] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd#
[05:53] <rioter> hi, im trying to build a opengl app, GL/glut.h is still missing, ive installed the mesa and gl1 libs, anyone shed some light?
[05:53] <asdfkp> zsh so does that mean i'm out of luck for xgl?
[05:53] <wermut> incadenza: Doesn't it need to be recursive?
[05:53] <peace-keeper> /dev/hdc: using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:54] <incandenza> wermut: no, if someone can't read the top directory, they can't read anything within it
[05:54] <mikeubuntu> lunch time, bye all
[05:54] <zsh> huh, try lspci alone and see what vga card you have
[05:54] <yggdrasil> does anyone know how to get soudconverter to convert to mp3s ? its blanked out or something
[05:54] <peace-keeper> guess i just have to buy a new pc... as always when u try a new OS :)
[05:54] <zsh> asdfkp, i have to go. good luck
[05:54] <asdfkp> zsh, thx
[05:54] <FurryNemesis> yggdrasil, I have same problem
[05:54] <m_0_r_0_n> quit The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
[05:54] <wermut> incadenza: thank you for the information
[05:54] <iloadmin> helo ever0one
[05:54] <FurryNemesis> think it's to do with codecs
[05:54] <gdb> I admit, I run Ubuntu on 2 pretty beefy machines. :-(  But they're all I have!
[05:55] <yggdrasil> furrynemesis can i msg you ?
[05:55] <incandenza> wermut: no problem
[05:55] <gidim> As I said, I've got a 2GHz AMD64, also got 1GB of DDR400... I'm hoping I have no visible slowdown. :D
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> yggdrasil, you can try
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> yggdrasil/FurryNemesis : lame (from multiverse)
[05:55] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: what's your cpu % atm - from 'top' ?
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> ] ooh
[05:55] <peace-keeper> 0.07
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> ok, will try that
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> ty
[05:55] <pwuertz> Hi, anyone installed ubuntu on a dmraid system? does the installer work this way? problems?
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> mm, got lame already
[05:55] <marcel__> how do I print in uBUNTu?
[05:55] <peace-keeper> i have an athlon500, guess thats just too slow nowadays
[05:56] <peace-keeper> but still it's strange that winxp is so much faster on it
[05:56] <gidim> Yeah, it's not too expensive to upgrade.
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: You will need the text based installer
[05:56] <FurryNemesis> h3sp4wn, does lame support batch conversions?
[05:56] <pwuertz> h3sp4wn, the graphical installer will break?
[05:56] <DShepherd> nixternal: ping
[05:56] <mcphail> peace-keeper: use a lighter desktop manager than gnome
[05:56] <frogzoo> peace-keeper: you run xp on this ??? & it's 2x faster than gnome? o.O
[05:56] <VanessaE> my Athlon64x2 3800+ box cost about $600 or so
[05:56] <gidim> I got an ASUS board for about $60 on NewEgg, the chip was pricey at like $150.
[05:56] <peace-keeper> yep
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: Is it hardware or software raid (I would expect the live cd installer to not work properly)
[05:57] <peace-keeper> maybe it's the graphic card drivers..
[05:57] <mcphail> frogzoo: windows (in all its incarnations) runs well on lower spec machines
[05:57] <pwuertz> h3sp4wn, its a fake-raid.... so I have to install dmraid on the live-system first
[05:57] <VanessaE> built mine starting with pricewatch and ended up at SMK Superstore for the actual hardware.
[05:57] <abhinay> anybody help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19700
[05:57] <frogzoo> mcphail: so does linux, only better
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: I think the alternative installer will work fine
[05:58] <yunosh> so, can anybody tell me where i find a repository browser online?
[05:58] <mcphail> frogzoo: _modern_ linux has large system requirements. Fair enough if you want to strip a lot of things out
[05:58] <pwuertz> h3sp4wn, do I have to install the alternative installer first?
[05:58] <gidim> Last time I went to the doctor, they found a chip in my head and took it out, now I don't hear Gates' voice telling me to use Windows anymore... I've had such good nights' sleep. :)
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> pwuertz: Its the other iso image that is available (not the desktop one)
[05:58] <peace-keeper> whats the lightest desktop manager out there ?
[05:59] <gidim> So, am I going to run into any problems reformatting and such?
[05:59] <kidbuntu> peace-keeper: i think its the one that xubuntu uses
[05:59] <VanessaE> lightest?  twm :)
[05:59] <mumbles> I cant get ubuntu base to install
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> peace-keeper: ratpoison
[05:59] <dreamthief> xfce ;)
[05:59] <VanessaE> but if you want features, maybe afterstep or xfce
[05:59] <dreamthief> fluxbox?
[05:59] <dreamthief> ^^
[05:59] <peace-keeper> i go try xfce
[05:59] <peace-keeper> cu
[05:59] <Avdi> Ion!
[05:59] <peace-keeper> :D
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> peace-keeper: ratpoison (is good it you want a really light window manager)
[06:00] <frogzoo> mcphail: agreed, peace-keeper's best option with 500MHz would probably be xfce
[06:00] <gidim> Both my OS drive and my storage drive are formatted in NTFS. :/
[06:00] <mcphail> frogzoo: You couldn't run GNOME and openoffice on the 32MB 300MHzPII i ran Win98 and Office97
[06:00] <YoussefAssad> erm. Icewm is ugly, but light as heck.
[06:01] <yggdrasil> s3sp4wn i tried that ... still doesnt go
[06:01] <VanessaE> sure you could, if you have enough swap ;)
[06:01] <gidim> A friend told me that my OS drive should be in EXT2 and my storage in EXT3, but... clueless newb. :)
[06:01] <VanessaE> and lots of patience :)
[06:01] <DShepherd> mcphail: xfce and abiword may be good enough
[06:01] <gidim> Ironically, both drives are at around half capacity right now.
[06:01] <frogzoo> gidim: no, swap should be formatted with 'mkswap'
[06:01] <VanessaE> gidim, my OS is on an ext3 partition and works fine
[06:02] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[06:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:02] <gidim> mkswap?
[06:02] <incandenza> gidim: I think you can upgrade ext2 -> ext3 in place, can't you?
[06:02] <yggdrasil> h33sp4wn i tried that ... still doesnt go
[06:02] <gidim> Don't ask me, clueless.
[06:02] <VanessaE> you can with tune2fs
[06:03] <frogzoo> gidim: say your swap partition's name is /dev/hda3, then to setup swap on it 'sudo mkswap /dev/hda3; swapon /dev/hda3'
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> gidim: reiserfs 3 is pretty stable
[06:03] <gidim> My friend told me to partition magic my drives and start swapping data until my 300GB storage is all EXT3.
[06:03] <VanessaE> (just tune2fs -j /dev/whatever should do it, and tweak your fstab of course)
[06:03] <Dimensions> can any one help me install my hp printer on my laptop ?
[06:04] <incandenza> VanessaE, gidim: right...  so you can easily switch it to ext3 if you want
[06:04] <FurryNemesis> Dimensions, you should have the drivers preinstalled with the os
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> yggdrasil: Find out what encoder it uses by default (and if ubuntu's version is crippled) - I know k3b can rip things with lame pretty easily
[06:04] <Awesome-o2000> k3b rules.
[06:04] <gidim> I'm just very nervous anytime the words "format" and "personal data" are in the same sentence. I've got 150GB of files I don't want to lose in the conversion.
[06:05] <VanessaE> gidim: don't have access to a dvd burner or a spare hard drive for a quick backup?
[06:05] <kyefun> w
[06:05] <npster> How do I run Thunderbird mail form Run a program ?
[06:05] <yggdrasil> h3sp4n i just got thru dealing with this on fc5 ... kind of.
[06:05] <gidim> VanessaE: Nope. The 300GB is my backup.
[06:05] <Dimensions> FurryNemesis: may be i have already installed it ... but how do i make it work ?
[06:05] <frogzoo> gidim: usb drive if your data's really important
[06:05] <VanessaE> hrm..
[06:05] <yggdrasil> maybe i can do a um.. dpkg reconfigure on sndconverter
[06:06] <incandenza> gidim: the tune2fs thing is actually not that scary an operation...  ext3 is just kind of some added structure on top of ext2
[06:06] <VanessaE> that's the only sane way to do it, gidim... find a way to back your data up and just re-partition/re-format the disk
[06:06] <npster> How do I run Thunderbird Mail from "Run a program" ?
[06:06] <gidim> frogzoo: Don't have one of those either. :)
[06:06] <npster> Argh...
[06:06] <gidim> Kinda why the repartitioning has to go off without a hitch.
[06:07] <frogzoo> gidim: playing with your data while doing an install, especially if you're just starting out, can go badly wrong - a proper backup's the only correct way forward
[06:07] <lnx^> gdb: can you use freenx to view the current desktop that is shown on the computer's screen?
[06:07] <VanessaE> gidim: do you have a friend on the net someplace that would let you NFS mount one of their disks?
[06:07] <dserban> Anyone familiar with populating your /dev directory to have your kernel successfully boot?  All i've got in there currently is /dev/.static.  If I boot with the livecd, how do I get MAKEDEV to create everying in /dev/ (just for a successful boot so that udev can take over)?
[06:07] <ryanakca> how do you make firefox open links in a new tab? like example, I click on a link in konversation and it opens in a new tab of an allready running browser window. How do I make it open in a new tab? the command isnt "firefox " nor is it "firefox %s"
[06:08] <gnomefreak> abhinay: is there a reason you sent a link to my pm?
[06:08] <npster> HOW DO I run "Thunderbird Mail" from "Run Program" ???
[06:08] <gidim> Well, the thing is my OS drive is only 20GB, so it's kinda hard to use for backup...
[06:08] <incandenza> ryanakca: there's an option in the preferences under 'Tabs'
[06:08] <VanessaE> dserban, try cp -a /dev /targetdrive while booted from the livecd
[06:08] <gnomefreak> npster: mozilla-thunderbird
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> dserban: just build the kernel with make-kpkg
[06:08] <ColdDeath> Wooo Amarok rocks!
[06:08] <VanessaE> (after you mount /targetdrive of course)
[06:09] <frogzoo> see gidim - the way this (alas) often pans out - people ask for help with an install, & due to the imperfections of irc, the instructions get garbled - they lose their data & get cranky at linux - we'd prefer that not happen, so a proper backup's really the only suggestion we can make
[06:09] <lnx^> apparently that isn't possible. is there any working alternative for remote assistance (VNC)? i'm having problems with updating the screen using VNC
[06:09] <npster> gnomefreak TNX A LOT
[06:09] <ryanakca> incandenza: no.... open a link from say XChat or Konversation, and have it open in a new tab in firefox... not open a link from firefox
[06:09] <PingunZ> How can I save flash movies I see in firefox ?
[06:09] <incandenza> ryanakca: yes, that's what I mean...  an option in firefox forces external links into new tabs
[06:09] <gidim> frogzoo: I can follow directions. :)
[06:09] <kidbuntu> archive.ubuntu.com is still overloaded.
[06:10] <shaka> hello, need help with ubuntu 6.06 server, how can i change screen resolution?? pm me
[06:10] <Tamale> kidbuntu:  Is it just really popular or is there a problem?
[06:10] <ryanakca> incandenza: ty
[06:10] <frogzoo> YoussefAssad: wine?
[06:10] <incandenza> ryanakca: np
[06:10] <yggdrasil> ok guys got it .... gstreamer0.8-lame maybe...
[06:10] <ryanakca> shaka: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:10] <frogzoo> Tamale: it's just popular
[06:10] <shaka> dont have xserver
[06:10] <YoussefAssad> frogzoo: that's an option of course, but I can actually use evolution with the OWA. But that is a little hackish unfortunately
[06:10] <h3sp4wn> shaka: vga= kernel boot line
[06:11] <shaka> how?
[06:11] <gidim> frogzoo: Though I'm just going to start with a reformat of the 20GB... or a re-partition, and just install Ubuntu.
[06:11] <Tamale> frogzoo: Is there a graph showing ubuntu popularity / repository load averages over the past months or so?
[06:11] <kidbuntu> Tamale: its a problem for me. i stil have so many applications needed to be installed but the download speed is really slow
[06:11] <gidim> I hear it can read and write NTFS, but not create new files on it.
[06:11] <frogzoo> Tamale: I for one would really like to see mrtg graphs on the repo traffic, but alas, no such exists
[06:11] <VanessaE> supposedly there's an NTFS library out that has full support
[06:11] <VanessaE> (including creating new files)
[06:12] <Vlet> Is there a way to create a symlink to, for example ~/somefile in a non home directory (/usr/local/bin/somefolder/somefile for example) so when someone accesses the file in /usr/local/... it points to the copy of 'somefile' in the current users home?
[06:12] <frogzoo> !fuse
[06:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:12] <Tamale> i know personally i know several people who are just now finding out about ubuntu
[06:12] <medfly> should i force dpkg to build something thats for i386 if i use amd64? will that work? :-)
[06:12] <gidim> Right, I won't mess with unsafe. :)
[06:12] <yggdrasil> furrynemesis ,h3sp4wn gstreamer0.8-lame might do it of course havign the dam reps working properly would also help
[06:12] <Tamale> it seems to be taking off in popularity
[06:12] <Frankenstein> !mirrors
[06:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:12] <VanessaE> Vlet: as root,   ln -sf /path/to/original  /path/to/new/link
[06:12] <Tamale> have the chat rooms become much more active than normal recently?
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> shaka: change it in /boot/grub/menu.lst (add it to kopt) vga=somenumber google will tell you the different numbers for the various resolutions then sudo update-grub
[06:12] <VanessaE> when someone accesses /path/to/new/link they'll be looking at /path/to/original.
[06:12] <incandenza> there's also ntfs-3g, which is supposed to be full read/write (unlike fuse, which sometimes fails to create files, etc.)
[06:12] <gidim> Well, 30 minutes left on my Ubuntu torrent. :)
[06:13] <kidbuntu> Tamale: ubuntu is getting popular. thats why the servers are overloaded. even the backports
[06:13] <sloncho> ok, with breeze there is onlu unrar-free, which does not support ver. 3 rars. what are my options? i need it badly
[06:13] <yggdrasil> furrynemesis ,h3sp4wn gstreamer0.8-lame defenetly got it !!!! :)
[06:13] <shaka> ok thx h3sp4wn
[06:13] <Tamale> kidbuntu:  I just wish there was a good way to see HOW popular...  how's the counter project going?
[06:13] <frogzoo> medfly: #ubuntu regularly had 1000 peeps when dapper was released - that was june, & it's been steady 800+ since
[06:13] <Tamale> hmm
[06:13] <medfly> frogzoo, ok :-) are you reading my mind?
[06:13] <Vlet> Thanks VanessaE
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> yggdrasil: I think xine sounds better (at least with my soundcard)
[06:13] <dserban> VanessaE: Thanks, I'll try that.
[06:14] <GTX> Hello, I have setup a Counter Strike Source Server on Ubuntu, It's only getting 50 FPS and cannot go over, I know this is down to the kernel its using, does anyone know which one doesn't have such a limit?
[06:14] <VanessaE> good G-D...I'm used to seeing a couple dozen people at most on the channels I used to hang out on :)
[06:14] <yggdrasil> h3sp4wn.. you need that to get it to convert out..
[06:14] <gidim> My only general concerns in making the switch to Ubuntu was my ability to do all the things I do now: chat, web, that's easy, but playing certain games... that took a little longer to find. :)
[06:14] <GTX> Think its something to do with kernel clock or somehting
[06:14] <dserban> h3sp4wn: nothing will build unless I start binding mounts which I see as unecessary.
[06:14] <medfly> GTX, you said youre running the server, not the client.. ?
[06:14] <GTX> medfly, I am running server, Its the tickrate not FPS sorry
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> dserban: What is the problem with that ?
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> dserban: just bind /dev /sys /proc
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> dserban: build the kernel with make-kpkg
[06:16] <praxnar> hi all
[06:16] <dave__> hey how do I mount a usb disk from the terminal (pmount <something> /media/usbdisk) whats the something?
[06:16] <praxnar> can someone help me with a video card driver?
[06:16] <Tamale> what's the problem praxnar
[06:16] <medfly> dave__, mount -t msdos /dev/sda /media/usbdisk (or another location). i dont know whats with pmount.
[06:16] <dserban> h3sp4wn: I just don't see the point as I'm just missing my /dev tree
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> dserban: If you want to build your own kernel (against the ubuntu toolchain) anything other than make-kpkg will cause you problems
[06:17] <dave__> ok
[06:17] <gidim> I gotta go find a CD to burn to.
[06:17] <dserban> h3sp4wn: I don't want to build the kernel ;)
[06:17] <praxnar> i have an older Toshiba laptop, with a S3 Virge/MX card, and my display is set to 480X600 and that is all i get :(
[06:17] <incandenza> at this point, ntfs-fuse is actually safe, IMO...  it's just that it refuses to perform certain operations in a semi-random fashion
[06:17] <dave__> pmount works better lol
[06:17] <dave__> pmount is for removable media
[06:17] <dave__> (i think)
[06:17] <Tamale> oof... i'm not sure there.  have you googled   "linux s3 virge"    yet ?
[06:18] <Tamale> you might not find ubuntu-specific help for your card.
[06:18] <praxnar> yes, but cant seem to find one
[06:18] <praxnar> so what do i do?
[06:18] <Tamale> dave_:  Is a flash drive technically removable media?
[06:19] <dave__> Tamale <good question> I have no idea
[06:19] <yggdrasil> ok now ... i need a wma to mp3,ogg converter ? anyone got a clue on that ?
[06:19] <Tamale> i think removable is for a drive which can have the media taken out, like a cd drive or floppy drive
[06:20] <incandenza> Tamale: a flash drive is considered removable
[06:20] <h3sp4wn> dserban: I don't understand what you are attempting to do
[06:20] <dave__> damn nvidia I hoped my xorg on the usb disk would work... still xserver error
[06:20] <Tamale> incandenza:  Really?  interesting.
[06:21] <longwave> pmount is a wrapper around mount that means you don't have to use sudo or edit your /etc/fstab all the time
[06:21] <dserban> h3sp4wn: I'm trying to boot my machiene.
[06:21] <incandenza> Tamale: yeah, it's designed to be plugged in and unplugged on the fly, so...
[06:21] <sloncho> there was a wrapper package which include refs to all needed for compiling stuff. what was the name?
[06:21] <sloncho> in breeze
[06:21] <longwave> sloncho: build-essential
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> dserban: with which kernel ?
[06:21] <medfly> if i use amd64, will forcing dpkg to install a i386 package work? :-)
[06:21] <tich> has anyone had problems suspending (to ram or disk)? my computer pops up a warning: suspend2ram failed on uploading 'usb_storage' (and i don't even have a usb storage connected right now)
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> medfly: no
[06:22] <Tamale> incandenza:  doesn't that just make it hot-plugable ?  not removable?
[06:22] <dserban> h3sp4wn: it has a kernel, it just panics that devfs is missing, which I've found out to be missing /dev/console
[06:22] <yggdrasil> ?? wmv
[06:22] <yggdrasil> ?? wma
[06:22] <[Yoni] > Hi all
[06:22] <dave__> what !?!?! error in locking authority file?
[06:22] <longwave> Tamale: hot-pluggable and removable are the same thing, surely?
[06:22] <dave__> man this problem is just getting worse
[06:22] <Tamale> longwave:  I honestly didn't think so
[06:22] <sloncho> longwave: thanks
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> dserban: built yourself or linux-image-2.6.15 ?
[06:22] <incandenza> Tamale: well, not according to the terminology of the pmount man page, anyway
[06:22] <longwave> Tamale: the only non-removable devices are things like hard disks that can't be switched out after booting
[06:22] <Tamale> cool
[06:22] <Tamale> well i'm really just learning all this, so i could be wrong
[06:23] <yggdrasil> whats the website for realplayer flash and all that other stuff ?
[06:23] <[Yoni] > I've installed on my primary hard drive Ubuntu 6.06 with Grub & on my secondary H.D I installed Windows XP, where can I find a tut about setting Grub to give me Windows XP as boot option?
[06:23] <Tamale> i just figured you always have a "cdrom" device
[06:23] <longwave> !flash
[06:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <incandenza> Tamale: it refers to "USB, FireWire, or MMC devices" as removable
[06:23] <Tamale> sometimes it's just not mounted 'cause there's no media in it
[06:23] <viller> I tried installing e17 by this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=15&highlight=enlightenment+howto
[06:23] <viller> but it's impossible
[06:23] <longwave> !grub > [Yoni] 
[06:23] <viller> it says package has no available version
[06:23] <dserban> h3sp4wn: linux-image-2.6.17-1-amd64-k8-smp
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> dserban: On edgy ?
[06:24] <dave__> exit
[06:24] <[Yoni] > Thanks longwav :)
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> dserban: If so please join #ubuntu+1
[06:24] <yggdrasil> thanks
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> dserban: If not you need a newer udev / sysutils backported from edgy and to rebuild it against dapper
[06:24] <Tamale> so what is a device with no disk in it called?
[06:25] <Tamale> like an empty flash card reader?
[06:25] <gidim> w00t! Found a blank CD. :D
[06:25] <gidim> And it's even Ubuntu orange! :D
[06:25] <longwave> Tamale: that is just a device - the media is the bit you mount, so that's the removable part
[06:26] <Zambezi> Anybody know if I have to write something special to activate SSL when I try to connect to a FTP with gFTP?
[06:27] <Tamale> longwave:  So a USB flash drive is a device that ubuntu mounts the media automatically for, correct?  I guess this is what I was calling "Hot-pluggable"
[06:27] <r000t> someon here know how i change the size of the font in console
[06:27] <longwave> Tamale: yes
[06:27] <longwave> the flash drive and the media are the same thing in that case
[06:27] <longwave> ubuntu notices you plugged in a new usb device that contains some media, so it mounts that for you
[06:27] <Tamale> sweet...  cool.
[06:28] <borstalbreakout> i have a question, i read all the faqs but i'm a complet n00b when it comes to linux
[06:28] <Plouj> borstalbreakout: you didn't have to say that
[06:28] <longwave> !ask
[06:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:29] <borstalbreakout> i want to install ubuntu to the harddrive alongside windows, and be able to open ubuntu by booting from a cd that just tells the computer ot load ubuntu from the harddrive instead of running a live cd
[06:29] <frogzoo> r000t: ctrl - & ctrl +
[06:29] <borstalbreakout> i know there's a way to do it, but i don't know how.
[06:29] <longwave> why do you want to boot ubuntu from a cd? you can boot it from the hard drive directly
[06:29] <Tamale> grub can do that for your, borstal... you don't need a boot cd
[06:29] <HellDragon> brb
[06:29] <longwave> !dualboot
[06:29] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> i want it to boot up windows whenever i turn the computer on, but have a special cd to load ubuntu from the harddrive when i want to use that
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> isnt that the only way to run them both?
[06:30] <Tamale> yeah
[06:30] <Tamale> that's exactly what grub can do
[06:30] <r000t> frogzoo: in the console after i do ctr-alt F1 for instance
[06:30] <incandenza> r000t: do you mean the actual text console (outside of X)?  if so, check the console-tools package
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> oh ok
[06:30] <Tamale> it's a boot loader
[06:30] <longwave> borstalbreakout: you can set grub so it boots windows by default, but still shows you a menu that lets you select ubuntu
[06:30] <r000t> incandenza: exactly
[06:30] <r000t> incandenza: ok thanks
[06:30] <k31th> god bless wifi
[06:30] <k31th> im taking a shit right now
[06:30] <borstalbreakout> alright
[06:31] <incandenza> r000t: pretty sure it's something in there, not sure of the exact command though
[06:31] <longwave> !language
[06:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:31] <r000t> incandenza: ill try it out thanks
[06:31] <Tamale> k31th:  Aren't you technically leaving something behind, not 'taking' something?  ;] 
[06:31] <goonies> i need help installing my wusb54gv4 usb adapter on dapper, ive tried various howtos, one i came across uses ndiswrapper to load the windows driver, i did this the other day and ndiswrapper loaded the driver fine, i did a new install today and am following the same instructions but now ndiswrapper reports rt2500usb invalid driver =\
[06:31] <geekdom> I need a very light desktop and did a apt-get install desktop-xubuntu.   I get all this extra crap like gimp.   This is for a server and all I need is a very small and light window manager like twm and no extra apps.
[06:32] <goonies> anyone help would greatly be appreciated
[06:32] <k31th> Tamale: haha technically
[06:32] <goonies> any*
[06:33] <nikin> hy
[06:33] <longwave> geekdom: just uninstall the packages you don't want
[06:33] <nikin> just a question: is there a Wirless LAN adapter, PCMCIA or UBB what is out of the box supported by debian and redhat based distros?
[06:34] <goonies> this is very fustrating since i have to keep rebooting into windows to get help since on ubuntu im networkless
[06:34] <longwave> geekdom: it may remove xubuntu-desktop but that is only a metapackage that includes the standard xubuntu packages, it is not needed on its own
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know of a batch image converter (i.e. png -> jpg) with a GUI?
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> I'd rather not open everything up in GIMP and resave it, have tons of files
[06:34] <Graig> my package manager is not getting all the repositories. is there something wrong with it?
[06:34] <geekdom> There are a lot of packages.   Can I find and install twm for debian ?
[06:34] <geekdom> Where would I find that ?
[06:34] <longwave> FunnyLookinHat: the gimp has batch mode, but i believe you have to script it
[06:35] <optik_knight> anybody here?
[06:35] <longwave> geekdom: twm is available in the universe repository
[06:35] <longwave> geekdom: generally everything in debian is also in ubuntu somewhere
[06:35] <geekdom> OK, what is a universe repository
[06:35] <longwave> !repository
[06:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:35] <incandenza> r000t: ah, yeah, it's "consolechars -f <font>", and the fonts are in /usr/share/consolefonts
[06:35] <sotired> im installing ubuntu with xfce on an old dell laptop. I installed and i was unable to change my resolution fronm 540X480. I am re-installing from the live cd. i have the same problem when booting the live cd, unless i use "safe graphics mode", in which case my resolution is normal. Any fixes?
[06:36] <geekdom> How do you reply to me ?   the text is in red and it is reaally cool
[06:36] <r000t> incandenza: :D was just getting to that .. thanks man ..wanting to get rid of those horribly big things
[06:36] <geekdom> longwave:  is this highlighted ?
[06:36] <sotired> geekdom: by typing your name
[06:36] <longwave> geekdom: yes
[06:36] <longwave> most irc clients auto-highlight if your name is mentioned
[06:36] <Tamale> gaim must not
[06:37] <geekdom> geekdom:  this is a test to me :)
[06:37] <Tamale> how can you turn this on in game
[06:37] <geekdom> cool
[06:37] <geekdom> thanks
[06:37] <Tamale> i would like to see lines with my name in it highlighted
[06:37] <longwave> i don't use gaim for irc, sorry
[06:37] <optik_knight> I'm trying to mount my initrd, which I've already gunzip-ed, and mount wants me to specify a filesystem type... isn't it ext2?
[06:37] <Tamale> longwave, what do you recommend for irc
[06:37] <Krafturinn_> hi
[06:38] <Krafturinn_> i have mdf file i would like to mount in ubuntu
[06:38] <Krafturinn_> is this possible ?
[06:38] <longwave> Tamale: x-chat or irssi
[06:38] <rki> Krafturinn_, use mdf2iso
[06:38] <sotired> or Konversation in kde
[06:38] <Krafturinn_> rki : hold on
[06:38] <rellim> anyone had any luck with dual booting? i need to for work, so i repartitioned the drive and install windows on the empty space and now i can't seem to get my grub config right to be able to boot the windows partition.... any thoughts?
[06:39] <goonies> can someone download a file for me and then send it over, for some reason it keeps disconnecting for me
[06:39] <goonies> its a driver =\
[06:39] <longwave> rellim did you read the dualboot howto?
[06:39] <longwave> !dualboot
[06:39] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:40] <kidbuntu> how do i mount /dev/hdc1?
[06:40] <sotired> sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[06:40] <rellim> longwave: yeah, just talked about installing windows and then linux, i did it the other way around and for some reason grub won't pick up on the other partition and i know it works because i can get to it with a boot cd
[06:40] <rellim> boot disk*
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> rellim: see the windows example in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:40] <kidbuntu> sotired: it said /dev/hdc1 is not available in /etc/fstab?
[06:40] <longwave> rellim: you will have to add the section to menu.lst manually i guess, but it still should work
[06:40] <rellim> i did add it
[06:41] <rellim> i've just never had to deal with a dual boot, been linux only for years
[06:41] <Cyorxamp> I need to un-blacklist 'dmfe' (a NIC module) so my system stops automatically using 'tulip' which don't work... back in 2.4 kernel i'd have to edit the hotplug thing... this is using 2.6/udev now - how would I go about it?
[06:41] <incandenza> rellim: does it show up in the list when you boot?
[06:41] <rellim> yes
[06:41] <kidbuntu> longwave: what problems are you encountering?
[06:41] <rellim> incandenza: but it just won't boot, says i need a path to the kernel
[06:42] <sotired> im installing ubuntu with xfce on an old dell laptop. I installed and i was unable to change my resolution fronm 540X480. I am re-installing from the live cd. i have the same problem when booting the live cd, unless i use "safe graphics mode", in which case my resolution is normal. Any fixes?
[06:42] <kidbuntu> rellim: what problems are you encountering
[06:42] <longwave> kidbuntu: i think you got me mixed up with someone else, i'm not having any problems right now :)
[06:42] <incandenza> rellim: can you pastebin the section of your menu.lst that refers to windows?
[06:42] <kidbuntu> longwave. yeh sorry.
[06:42] <rellim> incandenza: yeah ... hold on
[06:42] <rellim> kidbuntu: claims i need a path to the kernel
[06:43] <kidbuntu> sotired. how do i mount /dev/hdc1 to media?
[06:44] <sotired> kidbuntu: sudo mount hdc1 /dev/hdc1/
[06:44] <sotired> its prolly just hdc
[06:44] <Cyorxamp> I need to un-blacklist 'dmfe' (a NIC module) so my system stops automatically using 'tulip' which don't work... back in 2.4 kernel i'd have to edit the hotplug thing... this is using 2.6/udev now - how would I go about it?
[06:44] <madville> help me pls. When i'm going to install linux my keyboard halts
[06:44] <TheGame> sup
[06:44] <kidbuntu> sotired how do i type it again to specify my filesystem. the filesystem is extended 3
[06:45] <TheGame> anybody know of a good msn client besides amsn
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: centericq is pretty good
[06:46] <TheGame> what clients does it support
[06:46] <philipacamaniac> Is the dapper-updates totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin package broken for anyone else? Thought I'd ask before I mention it to the maintainer. totem-gstreamer was updated, but totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin wasn't, so it won't install with the new totem-gstreamer.
[06:46] <tich> are the repositories down?
[06:46] <rellim> incandenza, kidbuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19710
[06:47] <frogzoo> TheGame: I believe gaim does msn
[06:47] <TheGame> it does?
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: ICQ2000, Yahoo!, AIM, IRC, MSN, Gadu-Gadu and Jabber
[06:47] <rellim> TheGame: yes, it does
[06:47] <frogzoo> tich: just slow
[06:47] <justifier> GAIM does do msn
[06:47] <TheGame> how do i set it up
[06:47] <kidbuntu> can someone give me a link on automounting a partitions
[06:48] <BobSongs> Gaim does do MSN.
[06:48] <Rookie-> fstab kidbuntu
[06:48] <longwave> !fstab
[06:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:48] <tich> frogzoo, i tried to install something but it timed out before it could even start.
[06:48] <TheGame> msn isnt under the plugins list in gaim
[06:48] <justifier> TheGame,  it doesn need to be
[06:48] <justifier> open accounts
[06:48] <Rookie-> hows the support for webbcam and gaim ?
[06:48] <TheGame> oh
[06:48] <incandenza> rellim: I think maybe you have to hide the first partition ("hide (hd0,0)") or so...  because windows wants to be on the first partition only
[06:49] <justifier> click add
[06:49] <incandenza> rellim: not totally sure, because I've never had it partitioned that way
[06:49] <tich> can anyone help me set up suspend?
[06:49] <TheGame> oh i got it\
[06:49] <TheGame> thanks
[06:49] <frogzoo> tich: you might like to try a different repo
[06:49] <kidbuntu> Rookie- how do i include /dev/hdc1 to fstab automatically
[06:49] <lostman> Hola, From Mexico
[06:49] <brent123> does anyone know of a good webcam that *just works* in ubuntu?
[06:49] <Rookie-> edit the file fstab
[06:49] <Rookie-> lays under /etc
[06:49] <Devec> hi
[06:49] <rellim> incandenza: ohhh ... ok, yeah ... i didn't want windows, but my boss told me i can develop on whatever i want, but if i am doing something cross platform i have to test on both so it was just kinda a last minute "oh shit, i need windows" thing, not at all planned out
[06:49] <lostman> there is a way to restart the task bars on Ubuntu??
[06:49] <brent123> and what's the best program for chatting with a webcam?
[06:50] <Rookie-> wondering the same brent123 .....
[06:50] <tich> frogzoo, i thought that there was one specific ubuntu repo. are there more? how do i find them?
[06:50] <kidbuntu> Rookie- theres nothing there for /dev/hdc1
[06:50] <longwave> kidbuntu: just add another line in the same format as the other ones
[06:50] <incandenza> rellim: yeah, check this out: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
[06:50] <brent123> Rookie: i tried kopete and aMSN, but they were really finicky with my no name webcam
[06:50] <BobSongs> Restart taskbars: Alt+F2 > xkill > click taskbar
[06:50] <incandenza> rellim: see the part about hiding partitions
[06:50] <Rookie-> you have a hdd named hdc1 ? but its not in the file fstab ? well, you might want to put it there ;)
[06:50] <frogzoo> tich: wget cc.ubuntu.com   where cc= a random country code
[06:51] <rellim> incandenza: ok, thanks
[06:51] <Tamale> lostman:  killall gnome-panel
[06:51] <frogzoo> tich: wget cc.archive.ubuntu.com   where cc= a random country code , or just ping come to think of it
[06:52] <tich> frogzoo, how/what do i ping?
[06:52] <TheGame> anybody know how i can fix the nvidia driver so i can use programs like limewire
[06:52] <Krafturinn_> damn
[06:52] <fdsd> does anyone know if holding down the Option key or C key on a intel mac will all me to boot a x86 ubuntu disk?
[06:52] <vdepizzol> can I install ubuntu without install grub?
[06:52] <Krafturinn_> i can't remember how to mount
[06:52] <TheGame> its the alt key i thought
[06:53] <Rookie-> Krafturinn_ - man mount
[06:53] <kidbuntu> rellim: where did the CD installer of ubuntu come from??
[06:53] <rellim> kidbuntu: huh?
[06:53] <Rookie-> best command in linux is man and apropos
[06:53] <fdsd> TheGame, im just wondering if it will boot with no issues
[06:53] <Tamale> vdepizzol: you have to install SOME boot loader
[06:53] <Tamale> vdepizzol: either grub or lilo
[06:53] <kidbuntu> rellim: what are you trying to do?  do you have 2 OS on your computer?
[06:53] <vdepizzol> Tamale: I want to boot from floppy
[06:54] <TheGame> why dont u use the mac ubuntu cd
[06:54] <incandenza> vdepizzol: if you use the alternative install CD I think you can do that
[06:54] <rellim> kidbuntu: nothing ... incandenza helped me, thanks though :)
[06:54] <Tamale> vdepizzol: why are you wanting to boot from a floppy?  you could put grub on the floppy.
[06:54] <kidbuntu> rellim: ok thats good
[06:55] <incandenza> er, alternate install CD, I mean
[06:55] <vdepizzol> Tamale: I already have putted grub on the floppy, so I don't want to install ubuntu with grub
[06:55] <TheGame> u dont need grub to install ubuntu
[06:55] <PMantis> I'm running Dapper on my HP laptop... With kernels 2.6.15-24-686 or 2.6.15-25-686 it is *really* slow. animations on webpages never play unless I wiggle the mouse. With 2.6.15-23-686, all is great. Any chance that 2.6.15-26-686 addresses this?
[06:55] <isabelgc> hola
[06:55] <isabelgc> q tal
[06:56] <vdepizzol> isabelgc: hi. Talk spanish in #ubuntu-es
[06:56] <isabelgc> jejeejejejejjeejejejeej
[06:56] <B1zz> 0_o
[06:56] <Tamale> o_O
[06:56] <incandenza> PMantis: I think so-- make sure you have 2.6.16-26.46 (the newest one that just came out yesterday), it has some fixes related to that
[06:57] <vdepizzol> Tamale: so I can't install ubuntu without grub?
[06:57] <incandenza> PMantis: 2.6.15-26.46, I mean
[06:57] <TheGame> vdepizzol: yes you can
[06:57] <lostman> Tamale: Thanks, Works prety fine
[06:57] <TheGame> but i think youll need a floppy to put grub on so u can boot into it
[06:58] <gidim> Yay! Torrent done! :D
[06:58] <vdepizzol> TheGame: I already have a floopy-grub.
[06:58] <TheGame> so then use it
[06:58] <vdepizzol> But how i don't install grub when I install ubuntu?
[06:58] <Krafturinn_> i was trying to convert mdf file to iso using mdf2iso ... UNL-FWC06.mdf is already ISO9660. can I mount the file then ?
[06:58] <TheGame> oh
[06:58] <incandenza> PMantis: I had similar problems on my notebook, and it seemed to get better with that kernel
[06:59] <TheGame> can u not tell it to not install
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !easyubuntu
[06:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:59] <incandenza> vdepizzol: use the alternate install CD and it will give you a choice
[06:59] <brent123> hey is there a way to upgrade to the edgy eft knot 1 from dapper drake?  would it be correct to just change every instance of "dapper" to "edgy" in my sources.list and just do a "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[06:59] <TheGame> brent why do  u want to try edgy
[07:00] <brent123> to file bugs
[07:00] <vdepizzol> I don't have the alternate cd :(
[07:00] <brent123> early on in development
[07:00] <incandenza> vdepizzol: you can download it...  same place as the regular one
[07:00] <PMantis> incandenza, I'm running apt-get now, and it's getting 2.6.15-26-686 now...
[07:00] <longwave> brent123: join #ubuntu+1 for better help with edgy questions
[07:00] <drnick> brent123 the 2nd would be dist-upgrade, but it will go to the most current version, maybe not necessarily knot 1
[07:00] <brent123> ahh gotcha
[07:00] <brent123> thats exactly what i want
[07:00] <vdepizzol> incadenza, my internet conection is really bad
[07:00] <brent123> thanks
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> does breezy badger still ship?
[07:01] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, you can download it if you want it
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> shoot
[07:01] <longwave> why you would want it when dapper is out is a good question though :)
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> that would take me 3 days...
[07:01] <posu> Hi everyone
[07:01] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, dapper is what you can get from shipit
[07:01] <posu> how to install ubuntu to a PC without cdrom?
[07:01] <ubuntuuuuu> dapper dosn't like my laptop
[07:02] <drnick> posu, do you have windows curently?
[07:02] <Dimensions> how do i configure my Wlan adaptar
[07:02] <posu> is there a way to make a bootable usb?
[07:02] <longwave> then in all likelihood, breezy won't either
[07:02] <posu> drnick, nope
[07:02] <maddler> anyone using vmware on dapper (64bit)?
[07:02] <maddler> vmware client basically...
[07:02] <vdepizzol> posu, download the .iso and mount it
[07:02] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, try this, press F6 (if I have it right for extra options) then type vga=771 at the ned of the command line that may help
[07:02] <PMantis> maddler, ok, is that "VMWare Player" or "VMWare Workstation"?
[07:02] <ubuntuuuuu> every time I go to Install dapper It gets to the time zone section and hangs
[07:02] <FurryNemesis> !vmware
[07:02] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[07:03] <incandenza> vdepizzol: dunno, maybe the shipit people will send you the alternate if you make a special request...  not sure
[07:03] <posu> vdepizzol, mount where?
[07:03] <longwave> ubuntuuuuu: what laptop? have you looked at the laptop testing pages?
[07:03] <ompaul> !bootoptions > ubuntuuuuu
[07:03] <maddler> PMantis: I need to use vmware-server-console
[07:03] <ompaul> ubuntuuuuu, read that page I just have ubotu sent you as a message
[07:03] <VanessaE> bbl, storms moving in..
[07:03] <maddler> it was working until yesterday's update...
[07:03] <ubuntuuuuu> longwave, dell inspiron 1100 and no
[07:03] <maddler> and since then I have rectangles instead of text...
[07:03] <PMantis> maddler, Ok, ok. I havve it working on my laptop, but that's not 64 bit
[07:04] <PMantis> VMWare player, however... is being a big PITA
[07:04] <PMantis> Only runs with 2.6.15-23
[07:04] <maddler> PMantis: eh... the stangest thing is that if it is invoked from firefox (mui) text looks ok, but Images in menus and dialogs are not shown...
[07:04] <PMantis> Perhaps it'll run with -26 .. ?
[07:05] <ubuntuuuuu> longwave, what laptop test pages?
[07:05] <drnick> post, look here for floppy install
[07:05] <longwave> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron1100
[07:05] <drnick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[07:06] <longwave> ubuntuuuuu: that suggests breezy worked on an 1100, so dapper should too, but maybe try the alternate install cd
[07:06] <vmlemon> When is Ubuntu Edgy Eft coming out?
[07:06] <incandenza> vmlemon: october
[07:06] <ubuntuuuuu> longwave, I had only one cd shipped to me
[07:06] <ubuntuuuuu> and that was the livecd
[07:06] <subpar> my ubuntu keeps freezing up, and I can't find anything about it in the kernel log or the xorg log, any suggestions to where else to look?
[07:06] <vmlemon> incandenza: Thanks
[07:06] <Tamale> will edgy offer a lot of improvements over dapper?
[07:08] <longwave> Tamale: some of the improvements are noted in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+specs
[07:08] <TheGame> any1 know of a good ubuntu wallpaper site
[07:10] <ardchoille> TheGame:  http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/  ?
[07:11] <iloadmin> anybody has setup kiosk mode
[07:11] <TheGame> i guess thatll wokr
[07:11] <ardchoille> TheGame: You can find lots of ubuntu stuff at  http://gnome-look.org too
[07:12] <gidim> Alrighty, got bao0995, writing to CD. :)
[07:12] <subpar> I usually just browse the deviantart gallery
[07:12] <gidim> I hope this works.
[07:12] <budluva> is anyone aware of a good bittorrent client? something thats light like uTorrent?
[07:12] <fdsd> god I love making bash scripts that make my job easier
[07:13] <ardchoille> fdsd: :)
[07:13] <gidim> Speaking of DeviantArt: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28020114/
[07:13] <gidim> I love that one.
[07:14] <fdsd> darosan!
[07:14] <fdsd> lol
[07:14] <subpar> my ubuntu keeps freezing, and I can't figure out why
[07:14] <fdsd> subpar, hmm, do hdparm -t /dev/hda
[07:14] <fdsd> subpar, as root
[07:15] <geekdom> What does this mean :
[07:15] <geekdom> This module can be found as the module 'app/twm' at :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg
[07:15] <geekdom> How do I get the file and is it a .deb. rolled up and ready to go ?
[07:16] <subpar> Timing buffered disk reads:  184 MB in  3.00 seconds =  61.33 MB/sec
[07:16] <kernco> Has anyone had problems with sound lagging behind?  I've noticed that the sound is maybe a second or so behind the video on YouTube, and also when I'm playing games like Chromium.
[07:16] <subpar> is what it returns
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, okay that is good
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, what freezes?
[07:16] <subpar> the whole system
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, can you ssh in or anything like that?
[07:16] <subpar> I'll have to press the reset button on the box
[07:16] <fdsd> subpar, does the mouse lock up or does it still move when it freezes?
[07:16] <subpar> I haven't tried, I don't have another box to try it from
[07:16] <incandenza> geekdom: that's a CVS source repository...  lets you pull down development source code
[07:17] <subpar> it locks, I have the system moniter going, and it freezes too
[07:17] <geekdom> Can I get to it from a browser ?
[07:17] <subpar> if any media is playing, it'll just repeat a half second
[07:17] <fdsd> subpar, so no movement in the mouse?
[07:17] <subpar> correct
[07:17] <longwave> geekdom: you will have to use the cvs client
[07:17] <fdsd> subpar, if that is so the hardware is most likely at fault
[07:17] <subpar> hmm
[07:17] <geekdom> OK.
[07:17] <nicnacs> I have 6 P500, 192MB of RAM 10GB hdd. Thinking of putting ubuntu on them to donate to a homeless shelter. Having trouble finding whether or not the memory is going to be an issue?
[07:17] <fdsd> subpar, check memory, check cpu, check cooling..
[07:17] <subpar> it never freezes in windows
[07:17] <subpar> right
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, well windows isnt optimized for your machine like ubuntu is
[07:18] <subpar> hehe
[07:18] <justifier> nicnacs,  it should be fine
[07:18] <incandenza> geekdom: it looks like you can browse the source from the web...  but I doubt that's what you want
[07:18] <longwave> nicnacs: 192mb is supposed to be enough to install though gnome might be a bit slow, it may be worth running xubuntu instead
[07:18] <subpar> I'll do a memtest next time I reboot
[07:18] <kernco> nicnacs, what are you going to be using these machines for?
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, a different os can find faults in hardware
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, good idea
[07:18] <geekdom> I was looking to install it :)
[07:18] <fdsd> subpar, also check dmesg
[07:18] <nicnacs> the tenants of the shelter will likely use them for internet browsing, emailing and perhaps resume/skills building?
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, see if there is anything crazy going on
[07:19] <subpar> k
[07:19] <Ademan> hrm my video card won't output through svga to my big screen, i could do this on windows. interestingly enough it seems that it works fine untill X starts, do i need to add a monitor or something to my xconf?
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, also if you can ctl + alt + backspace to kill X when it freezes it might not be hardware
[07:19] <incandenza> geekdom: is it twm, the window manager?
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, what type of video card?
[07:19] <subpar> nvidia
[07:19] <subpar> and I have the glx installed
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, are you using nvidia drivers?
[07:19] <subpar> right
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, or nv?
[07:19] <subpar> nvidia
[07:19] <fdsd> subpar, does it happen with the nv drivers?
[07:20] <nicnacs> kernco: think that should work?
[07:20] <danblake> Does anyone know where can I change my boot sequence at the begining?
[07:20] <subpar> it didn't before I switched over, but it didn't start right after I switched
[07:20] <subpar> of course, I guess that really means nothing
[07:20] <fdsd> subpar, no extra machines around so you can check to see the problem with ssh?
[07:20] <kernco> nicnacs: it depends on what sort of programs you are going to be running.
[07:20] <subpar> no sir
[07:21] <fdsd> subpar, that sucks:)
[07:21] <frogzoo> danblake: /boot/grub/menu.lst - but most of the entries are auto-generated
[07:21] <subpar> yeah I know
[07:21] <subpar> I have extra misc. hardware laying around
[07:21] <danblake> thanks
[07:21] <fdsd> subpar, i have like 20 so I can normally pull stuff out of them or try to log in remotely
[07:21] <subpar> but not a complete system
[07:21] <subpar> lucky
[07:21] <subpar> I used to have three
[07:21] <subpar> but my laptop went out
[07:21] <subpar> and one was stolen
[07:21] <subpar> and the other died
[07:22] <fdsd> subpar, my machine has been up for 23 days since my last reboot, no freezing or anything.  But its been over 1 year since I installed this OS and I use it daily
[07:23] <subpar> well here's the other tricky part about it, it seems to usually do it only after I update using synaptic
[07:23] <subpar> and it'll freeze, reboot, freeze, reboot, then work fine
[07:23] <gidim> Alrighty, wrote fine. I'll be taking off now to install Ubuntu. Later all. :D
[07:23] <subpar> sometimes adding in another cycle
[07:24] <hadi57> Hi all, any body can help me install a .tgz file pls? i am new to linux
[07:25] <fdsd> subpar, werid
[07:25] <subpar> yeah
[07:25] <fdsd> weird
[07:25] <FurryNemesis> hadi57, use the archive manager
[07:25] <hadi57> where is that?
[07:25] <incandenza> hadi57: what are you trying to install?
[07:26] <FurryNemesis> that's a better question
[07:26] <subpar> well, I'lll grin and bear it for now, and keep looking for the problem
[07:26] <hadi57> a switch for my siemens laptop to activate wifi
[07:26] <Cicero> hello, does anyone around know why a normal crontab entry ist not executed ? I entered it with crontab -e and it should run ever 10 minutes. but it didnt worked. the entry in the crontab of my user is : */10 * * * * /usr/bin/fetchmail -akv -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"
[07:27] <hadi57> my wifi is acitvated by software switch
[07:27] <fh|killy> could anybody advise me with setting up TV-out with XGL with geforce7800gt? nvtv doesn't detect a support device, and I can't find good documentation for an alternative method
[07:27] <Cicero> any idas ?
[07:28] <ardchoille> Cicero: The */10 part of the crontab is wrong.
[07:28] <ardchoille> !cron > Cicero
[07:28] <Mdog> hey everybody.  "apt-get install rrdtool" says "no installation candidate"....any suggestions?
[07:29] <Cicero> ardchoille: thanks for your help
[07:29] <incandenza> Cicero: I think */10 is the wrong syntax
[07:29] <ardchoille> Cicero: You're welcome
[07:29] <goonies> can someone help me install this driver please, http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[07:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey Guys installing ubuntu 6.06 LTS with livecd and screen res is 640x480, I cannot see the bottom half of the windows inorder to install (click next and the like) need another way
[07:30] <goonies> where does ubuntu place modules =\
[07:30] <ardchoille> Paddy_EIRE: ALT+left click and drag the window around so you can see the other portions
[07:30] <susanne2256> can i run msn??? if i have linux? and hov???
[07:30] <subpar> fdsd: actually, I think I found the problem
[07:31] <subpar> it was doing fine until i started azureus
[07:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ardchoille doh, i never thought of that one now : P
[07:32] <hadi57> what is a good archiving manager?
[07:32] <ardchoille> Paddy_EIRE: :)
[07:32] <mp3guy> what user/pass does I use for CUPS admin stuff?
[07:32] <Paddy_EIRE> ardchoille cheers mate
[07:32] <syntaxx> susanne2256: install gaim
[07:32] <incandenza> Cicero: hmm, never mind, I think that's OK
[07:33] <subpar> hadi57: ubuntu has one called synaptic
[07:33] <Cicero> ardchoille: uhmmm are you sure about that ? cause at the ubuntu wiki and serveral other sites it is written differently ? or are there different versions of cron ?
[07:33] <subpar> err I read package manager for some reaosn
[07:33] <Mdog> does anybody here use rrdtool?
[07:34] <goonies> =*(
[07:34] <harisund> Hello .. do people here use info along with man? A lot of commands the man page says "see info page for more documentation" but the info and man page both show the same thing? Do I have to install the info package on ubuntu?
[07:34] <ardchoille> Cicero: Yes, I'm sure that "/" isn't allowed in the time sections of a crontab
[07:34] <abhinay> how to integrate Rythembox with nautilus ?
[07:34] <incandenza> ardchoille: actually it is, I just checked...  (although I had never seen that before)
[07:34] <hadi57> how to use synaptic to install a .tgz file?
[07:35] <Cicero> ardchoille: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto what about that ?
[07:35] <Cicero> ardchoille: btw. thats where i "stole" my information :)
[07:35] <harisund> hadi67 a .tgz file is a source file. You will have to probably compile it. What package is that anyway?
[07:35] <harisund> hadi57 ^^
[07:35] <subpar> hadi57: I'm sorry you wouldn't use synaptic, I read package manager
[07:36] <ardchoille> Cicero: Here is a crontab how-to that I wrote, have a look: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto?highlight=%28crontab%29
[07:36] <hadi57> this is  switch file for my siemens laptop
[07:36] <hadi57> to operate the wireless on my laptop
[07:36] <harisund> hadi57 where did you get it from? In any case, you will have to extract it, untar it and read the documentation inside to check how you would install it
[07:37] <subpar> did you install dapper on the laptop? when I installed it, wireless worked fine
[07:37] <incandenza> ardchoille: you wrote that?
[07:37] <Cicero> ardchoille: may im wrong but my line looks that way : */10 * * * * /usr/bin/fetchmail -akv -m ...
[07:37] <ardchoille> incandenza: It seems that someone over-wrote my tutorial.
[07:37] <hadi57> my radio wirless is off need to be turn on
[07:37] <khaled_> hi all, can anyone help me on this, what should i do if i want to read the source code of some programs like aMSN for example ???
[07:38] <Cicero> ardchoille: and an example line in that howto looks : */5 9-17 * * mon,tue,wed,thur,fri wall "Are we there yet?"
[07:38] <incandenza> ardchoille: ah...  because that one does use a / in the time field.  (which works, I just tried it)
[07:38] <hadi57> how to unpack the .tgz file anyway?
[07:38] <harisund> hadi57 you are familiar with the command line? The terminal?
[07:38] <hadi57> yes
[07:38] <hadi57> the command line
[07:38] <ardchoille> ok, ignore me
[07:38] <mikeubuntu> msg nickserv register candilynn
[07:38] <syntaxx> hadi57: tar zxvf file.tgz
[07:38] <incandenza> Cicero: I recommend getting the MAILTO= setting to work so you can see what's happening
[07:38] <harisund> hadi57 if so, in the command line you could execute 'tar xzvf package.tgz'
[07:38] <hadi57> ill try it now
[07:38] <frogzoo> incandenza: that's gnu's crond - it's not typical crond
[07:39] <Cicero> incandenza: well it think i need to know the whole thing about cron :) before i get back and ask hehe
[07:39] <incandenza> frogzoo: ah, I see.  guess that's why I've never seen that syntax
[07:39] <harisund> tar is the package, the x tells it to extract, the z tells it is a zip file, v is for verbose and f says the file name is going to follow (package.tgz)... hadi57
[07:39] <khaled_> hi all, can anyone help me on this, what should i do if i want to read the source code of some programs like aMSN for example ???
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> hey me again trying to install ubuntu on one single drive with 1 ntfs part(Win2000) 1 unformatted Part (intended to be the Ubuntu Install formatted with whatever fs u guys recommend
[07:39] <hadi57> ah ok
[07:39] <hadi57> thxk
[07:39] <TheGame> ext 2
[07:39] <TheGame> Paddy_EIRE:  use ext2
[07:39] <frogzoo> khaled_: apt-get source amsn
[07:40] <Cicero> but anyway thanks for your help ardchoille and incandenza
[07:40] <xota> hi! somebody can give me a good sources.list for a ubuntu dapper? I can't connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com ;(
[07:40] <khaled_> frogzoo: thx
[07:40] <michaeljb2006> hey glad I could help Cicero
[07:40] <frogzoo> khaled_: enable the source repos for that to work
[07:40] <khaled_> frogzoo: and where will it be installed?
[07:40] <frogzoo> khaled_: pwd
[07:41] <khaled_> frogzoo: how can i do that?
[07:41] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i install ubuntu with this "unrecognized" unformatted partition, there is an exclamation mark next to it
[07:41] <frogzoo> khaled_: synaptic -> repositories
[07:41] <khaled_> got it, thanx
[07:42] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: if you don't want it, delete it and create a proper one
[07:42] <TheGame> how do i fix the nvidia driver so i can use limewire
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> incandenza what with im in the live cd now
[07:42] <harisund> Can someone tell me the difference between (1) find . -type f -name *.c (2) find . -type f -name '*.c' ????
[07:42] <TheGame> i read that because of the nvidia driver when i open a java app all i see is gray
[07:43] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: when you do the install, pick 'manually edit the partitions'
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[07:43] <frogzoo> harisund: 2 will do what you expect, 1 won't
[07:43] <harisund> frogzoo I just figured that the hard way .. :( ... what is happening?
[07:43] <TheGame> anybody?
[07:43] <frogzoo> harisund: the shell is expanding * before passing it as an argument to find
[07:44] <AstralJava> Hello ubunteros! Does anybody know who admins the users on Ubuntu wiki's and Launchpad's?
[07:44] <harisund> hmmmm..... expanding * to whaT?
[07:44] <incandenza> harisund: anything that happens to match in the current directory
[07:45] <harisund> ah .. interesting .. is it some bash peculiarity? Will it work the same way on tcsh as well?
[07:45] <DarkAudit> where can I change the settings for the menu/panel fonts? System>Preferences->Fonts doesn't affect those
[07:45] <geekdom> What is the equivilent of rpm -ivh for debian ?
[07:45] <harisund> thanks frogzoo and incandenza.. you just made my command line experience a bit more richer today :)
[07:45] <harisund> geekdom dpkg -i ?
[07:45] <incandenza> harisund: that is pretty standard behavior
[07:45] <geekdom> thanks!!!
[07:45] <harisund> geekdom wait .. are you trying to install a .deb package you downloaded or something?
[07:47] <dell> hi
[07:47] <krang> hey hey, I've been having trouble with the route command. I see entries that I want to get rid of, but they won't delete. For instance 10.0.50.0, gateway *, netmask 255.255.255.0, flag U gives me "No such process" When I try to delete it, and tells me that the netmask doesn't make sense if I try including that. Any suggestions?
[07:47] <Devec> hi
[07:47] <Paddy_EIRE> what do i do now that im in Manually edit the partiton table i can see why wn2000 ntfs /dev/hda1 and extended /dev/hda2 which trees down to /dev/hda5 (!Unknown) what should i do now
[07:48] <incandenza> krang: try setting it in the interface with ifconfig instead of changing the route
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> i want ubuntu on hda2
[07:48] <manmadha> he in my home folder i find a file .lesshst is there any poblem with it.......every one have that file???
[07:48] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: do you know how to format a partition?
[07:48] <vorbote> krang, try using the ip command instead (route is rather deprecated).
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> in ubuntu
[07:48] <Mdog> can somebody here confirm that "apt-get install rrdtool" works or doesn't work on their system?
[07:49] <NickGarvey> manmadha: I have that file
[07:49] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: so the only partition you want to keep is /dev/hda1?
[07:49] <manmadha> NickaNicka, what is the perpose of that?
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah thats my win2000 part, i want ubuntu on the other
[07:49] <harisund> manmadha there are lots of files starting from '.' in your home directory .. generally it is safe ..
[07:49] <NickGarvey> Mdog: hmm.. its not worknig
[07:49] <krang> vorbote: ok, I'll give that a shot
[07:50] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: just delete 2 and 5, then create a swap partition and an ext3 partition
[07:50] <NickGarvey> Mdog: lemme try and apt-get update
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:50] <frogzoo> krang: your syntxax is wrong
[07:50] <krang> incandenza: thanks for the suggestion, but I don't see how i can do that
[07:50] <krang> frogzoo: How so?
[07:50] <manmadha> can any one tell how to load itunes in ipod??
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Why not reiserfs or reiser4
[07:50] <hussam> any recommended wysiwyg html editor?
[07:50] <NickGarvey> hussam: nvu
[07:51] <incandenza> Paddy_EIRE: oh...  that's fine if you want...  just some usable linux filesystem
[07:51] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: you can use those also, ext3 is the default
[07:51] <hussam> NickGarvey, ok thanks
[07:51] <beerfan> the special function keys (e.g., Fn F2 to toggle wireless) don't work. do you have to install something special to make them work?
[07:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a command  (or maybe an option in Synaptic) to delete the archived .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archive?  Or can I just go in and delete them by hand?
[07:51] <NickGarvey> EnsignRedshirt: apt-get clean I believe
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> whats the best fastest most up to date, why use ext2,3
[07:52] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: I think.. xfs is the fastest due to one report I read..
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> really
[07:52] <harisund> EnsignRedshirt: apt-get clean ; apt-get autoclean
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> NickGarvey: So it it. Thanks!
[07:52] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: mind you this was one report I read in one place
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone else
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> s/it it/it is/
[07:52] <NickGarvey> :)
[07:52] <dell> hi i looking to duy a pcm card
[07:52] <dell> a wireless,
[07:53] <dell> do you have alist
[07:53] <krang> frogzoo: 10.0.50.1 * 255.255.255.0 0 0 0 U eth0
[07:53] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: ext3 had journalling, so will usually not need to fsck, & is probably best for all but high performance/big iron applications
[07:53] <krang> frogzoo: How do I remove that?
[07:53] <beerfan> dell, google for madwifi.org. there's a good list there
[07:53] <frogzoo> krang: man route
[07:54] <beerfan> Anyone know how to make the special function keys (e.g., Fn F2) on a laptop work in Ubuntu?
[07:54] <krang> frogzoo: Thanks, I didn't know it had a man page. God forbid that I even read it
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> what is the best fs ext2/3, reserfs, xfs....
[07:54] <jnguy[w] > ext3?
[07:54] <jnguy[w] > in terms of popularity.
[07:55] <incandenza> krang: check out the man for ifconfig, too, because I think those routes are added automatically by ifconfig
[07:55] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: very very silly question! They all have very different ''optimal'' situations...
[07:55] <krang> incandenza : yup, they are
[07:55] <amar-ze> hi, anyone use bitchx-gtk? I am having some problems..
[07:55] <Dodzey> hey all
[07:55] <Dodzey> anyone knowledgeable on how to sort out acpi, the 'halt' process in shutdown doesn't actually shut down my computer
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Blissex explain
[07:55] <NickGarvey> Paddy_EIRE: if you are unsure, I suggest ext3
[07:56] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: a bit like asking ''what's the best desk editor'' or ''what's the best distro''. try to say what you expect to do with it. Like filesystem size, type of PC, files, ...
[07:56] <krang> frogzoo: So do you actually know anythjing or do you hang out on IRC telling people to read man pages all day?
[07:56] <harisund> krang that was quite rude :)
[07:56] <dell> were no the list ubuntu have a hard were complater list for wireless card...
[07:56] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: for example, XFS is best for very large RAID storage systems, ReiserFS for lots of very small files, and so on...
[07:56] <frogzoo> krang: I help people who are prepared to help themselves
[07:57] <dell> were on ubuntu they have a hardware list for wireless card...
[07:57] <harisund> frogzoo, teach a man to fish rather than give him fish,eh?
[07:57] <Blissex> frogzoo: that is a commendable attitude too, even if some people take it as a bit rude...
[07:57] <krang> frogzoo: Does reading the pages and trying all day count?
[07:57] <hellboy195> hi, i habe a "special" problem with bei bcm4318 wlan card from broadcom - is anybody here with big knowledge ?
[07:57] <Paddy_EIRE> well i want dvd images, mp3, pics, alsorts
[07:57] <beerfan> dell, Ubuntu doesn't have a list that I know of. Go look at the madwifi.org list
[07:57] <incandenza> krang: so you just set up the interface, something like 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.151 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255', and the right route appears
[07:57] <frogzoo> beerfan: system -> configuration editor -> apps -> metacity -> global key bindings
[07:57] <dell> hooooo ok
[07:58] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: how large? Just your own PC, desktop usage? Do you dual boot to MS Windows?
[07:58] <krang> Blissex: What if you teach a man to fish and he falls out and starts drowning before he's got any experience?
[07:58] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: whats not working?
[07:58] <CVirus-Cilantro> how the heck do I view .tex files ?
[07:58] <harisund> what's the problem here krang? Could you get it fixed?
[07:59] <gaius_> #freenet
[07:59] <Blissex> krang: you send him a nice manual on swimming :-). Or for once you grab him and take him out of the water :-). Without doing mouth breathing though :-)
[07:59] <hellboy195> ok its very strange - there is a problem with the bcm43xx cards right?
[07:59] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro how did you get a .tex file? I believe that's a Latex file .. you will have to convert it into a .dvi or a .pdf ..
[07:59] <incandenza> "build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.  set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
[07:59] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: kind of, I had to use ndiswrapper for mine
[07:59] <krang> incandenza: lol
[07:59] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[07:59] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: they book was said to be LateX .. but when I extracted it I found .tex files
[07:59] <Desh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28recover%29 - If I want Grub to give me the option of choosing b/w Windows and Linux, which instructions should I follow?
[08:00] <CVirus-Cilantro> hellboy195: ndiswrapper works fine with them I guess
[08:00] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: however the usual general ''all purpose'' filesystems are 'ext3' and JFS. I think that JFS is somewhat better performance than 'ext3'. However 'ext3' is MS Windows compatible.
[08:00] <terre1> hi. What is "dapper.0" ? edgy  6.10  (DEVELOPMENT)   dapper.0   6.06  (FROZEN)  dapper  6.06    (CURRENT)
[08:00] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro the book was right.. they are latex files
[08:00] <krang> harisund: I have entries in my routing table that I can't seem to get rid of
[08:00] <beerfan> frogzoo, I don't have a "configuration editor" under the system menu. I've looked in "Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts" but there are no mappings for those keys
[08:00] <krang> Blissex: The linux way is the first way :-)
[08:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Blissex i want to dual boot windows 2000 ntfs with ubuntu both on same drive
[08:00] <hellboy195> yes and yesterday i was at a friens home and we tried it with my laptop - nothing worked so we used ndiswrapper - and it worked but at my home not :( - the card is aktiv but not connected
[08:00] <frogzoo> beerfan: system tools etc..
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Desh: you can do it automatically
[08:01] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro you will need to install latex. But wait, doesn't the directory have anything at all but .tex files?
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Desh: just don't change your menu.lst and you should be fine
[08:01] <Desh> If I dual boot Windows on a UBuntu System, do I want to add Grub to the MBR or overwrite the Windows bootloader with Grub?
[08:01] <Dodzey> anyone knowledgeable on how to sort out acpi??
[08:01] <Blissex> Paddy_EIRE: then got for 'ext3' and use this driver under MS Windows: http://FS-Driver.org/
[08:01] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro do you want to point me to that link or something? I am more familiar with Latex..
[08:01] <Blissex> Desh: overwrite usually is much easier.
[08:01] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: there are .eps and .fig
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Desh: well, did you ever have windows on the computer?
[08:01] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: just a sec
[08:02] <NickGarvey> Desh: or are you just now installing it next to ubuntu
[08:02] <harisund> krang the man page says route del should delete a route .. can you post the output of route perhaps to pastebin or something?
[08:02] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro go ahead.
[08:02] <harisund> krang besides, what kind of internet connectivity do you have? How are you connected to the internet?
[08:02] <DanaG> Is it a good idea to enable all the default repos?
[08:02] <hellboy195> NixkGarvey: yesterday i was at a friends home and we tried it with my laptop - nothing worked so we used ndiswrapper - and it worked but at my home not :( - the card is aktiv but not connected
[08:03] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
[08:03] <Paddy_EIRE> DanaG i did but got alot of errors
[08:03] <Blissex> DanaG: not too bad an idea. Slows down things a bit.
[08:03] <incandenza> DanaG: probably best to only enable what you need packages from
[08:03] <Desh> NickGarvey: It has Ubuntu on it and I am installing Windows on a 2nd partition
[08:03] <ohho1290_> i installed this package zlib1g_1.2.2-4.sarge.2_i386.deb. how can i remove this?
[08:03] <krang> harisund: Comp -> switch -> PDSN -> ethernet with provider gateway
[08:03] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro so why did you download the gzipped tar file?
[08:03] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: it worked at your friends house though?
[08:03] <DanaG> Currently I just want to add Amarok.
[08:03] <incandenza> DanaG: if that's all of them, then... do all of them
[08:03] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: if it did, try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[08:04] <DanaG> I don't know which repo has Amarok.
[08:04] <hellboy195> i tried very often ;)
[08:04] <beerfan> frogzoo, ok found it. the list in configuration editor looks identical to the list in the keyboard shortcuts (i.e., nothing for extended function keys)
[08:04] <harisund> krang, forgive my ignorance, but what is a PDSN?
[08:04] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I wanna view it offline when I'm not connected
[08:04] <DanaG> !xgl
[08:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:04] <incandenza> DanaG: amarok is in main...  no need to add anything
[08:04] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: the link is at the end of the page
[08:04] <Desh> NickGarvey: So when XP installs it will overwrite the MBR and I'll need to restore Grub, I want to use Grub to load XP and Ubuntu, so should I make Grub overwrite the Windows Boot Loader
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Desh yep
[08:04] <NickGarvey> Desh: yes you should
[08:05] <Desh> Ok, and will Grub ask me wether to boot XP or Ubuntu or do I have to do something to make it do that?
[08:05] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro .. the problem is, the source is a LaTeX file .. let me see if I can create the pdf files for you ...otherwise you will have to install LaTeX and convert the .TeX files into .pdf files for later use.
[08:05] <DarkAudit> even tried searching through gconf-editor... how do I change the panel font?
[08:05] <DanaG> I don't see Amarok in the stock checked repos.
[08:05] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I already installed tetx-base and tetex-common
[08:05] <krang> harisund: Packet Data Serving Node. It's basically a router that does a bunch of other stuff like terminating PPPoE sessions
[08:05] <geekdom> Where does one get .deb packages ?  I went to http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/x11/twm and all I find is .tgz files I have to "configure  make makeinstall "
[08:05] <harisund> oh .. that should technically be good enough .. hang on ..
[08:05] <Paddy_EIRE> itll find windows again anyway, where as windows bootloader wont find linux based os
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Desh: you will need to do something, which on is on the page you had
[08:05] <hellboy195> nickgarvey: iwlist scan is good, ifconfig also , i dont know what to do :(
[08:05] <krang> Harisund: 10.0.50.1 * 255.255.255.0 0 0 0 U eth0
[08:05] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: so "iwlist scan" works?
[08:06] <harisund> krang, give me a second .. Cvirus-Cilantro I will have a look and let you know what needs to be done
[08:06] <beerfan> DanaG, try Quod Libet instead of amarok
[08:06] <krang> Harisund: That's the entry that won't die
[08:06] <Desh> NickGarvey: Ok, thanks! :)
[08:06] <zetor> hi all!
[08:06] <hellboy195> yes
[08:06] <krang> harisund: cheers
[08:06] <geekdom> I just need to put twm on 606 server :(
[08:06] <hellboy195> @ nickgarvey
[08:06] <frogzoo> beerfan: global keybindings - you can setup any keybind yourself, you need to also create the command in keybinding_commands
[08:06] <incandenza> DanaG: should be there...  spelling maybe?
[08:06] <geekdom> I need something really light
[08:06] <DanaG> I just need something that will give me folder views.
[08:06] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I would be thankful
[08:06] <DanaG> Is it in universe or multiverse?  Those aren't checked by default.
[08:06] <harisund> ok first, Cvirus-Cilantro, I am assuming you are familiar with the command line?
[08:07] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: ah sure
[08:07] <hellboy195> nickgarvey: i said it : at the friends home it worked fine but not for me :(
[08:07] <DanaG> DHCP?
[08:07] <incandenza> !info amarok
[08:07] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[08:07] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: ok.. I would try to use a wireless assistant program to help
[08:07] <incandenza> it's in main
[08:07] <CVirus-Cilantro> !info tetx-base
[08:07] <ubotu> Package tetx-base does not exist in dapper
[08:07] <DanaG> Oh, I just didn't reload.
[08:07] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: I run suse on my laptop so I am not sure what programs are available for ubuntu
[08:07] <CVirus-Cilantro> !info tetex-base
[08:07] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro: Can you tell me if a command named 'latex2pdf' is present on your system?
[08:07] <ubotu> tetex-base: Basic library files of teTeX. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0-15ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 21892 kB, installed size 76692 kB
[08:07] <DanaG> Hah, silly me.
[08:07] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro: Just hit latex2 and hit tab.. the command should be completed
[08:07] <hellboy195> there is a programm for ubuntu ;)
[08:07] <beerfan> frogzoo, ok but how would I discover how to map a particular keystroke to a command to toggle off wireless or toggle lcd to external monitor for example?
[08:08] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: its not there
[08:08] <mikeubuntu> !xgl
[08:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:08] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: stop those n00bies tips :-p
[08:08] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro what do you get when you type in 'latex' and hit tab? What are the commands that bash says can be completed?
[08:08] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: no commands related at all
[08:08] <frogzoo> beerfan: if you have a command you can run from the command line, you can assign a keystroke to it
[08:09] <harisund> huh? you installd tetex base and tetex bin, right?
[08:09] <mikeubuntu> anyone using xgl?
[08:09] <DanaG> argh, that's the one thing I miss from Mepis -- nearly EVERYTHING can be tab-completed.
[08:09] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: havey ou tried it?
[08:09] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro let me do a quick check .. /w 11
[08:09] <DanaG> Even apt-get commands.
[08:09] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: have you tried it?*
[08:09] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: tetex-base and tetex-common
[08:09] <mikeubuntu> xgl work ok?
[08:09] <Dodzey> mikeubuntu:yeah, i am
[08:09] <frogzoo> beerfan: you should be looking at run_command_#
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[08:09] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: huh ?
[08:09] <beerfan> frogzoo, I don't have any program which does those things. They are acpi things or something aren't they?
[08:09] <budluva> k, i need some help here, i just installed xgl via the wiki CompositeManager/XGL page, and i go to choose my system session, and then log in, well it just sits there for about 20secs and kicks me back to gdm, where do i go from here?
[08:09] <hellboy195> yes - many times - card is here and aktiv - i uses static ip and dhcp many times but it hasnz ever connectetd
[08:09] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro one of those packages should have had latex2pdf or atleast pure 'latex' ..
[08:09] <harisund> let me just check
[08:10] <bosco> where are my sources list located i have not messed with it in a long time and i need to know
[08:10] <wheelchair> how do you exit the x server in ubuntu 6.06? ctrl-alt-backspace only works for a few seconds, then x starts up again.
[08:10] <mikeubuntu> Dozey: do you get a cube like in SuSe SLED 10?
[08:10] <mikeubuntu> I assume so
[08:10] <Dodzey> yup
[08:10] <DanaG> apt-g<> in<> linux-im<>6.<>-686
[08:10] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: there is pod2latex that I only have installed
[08:10] <mikeubuntu> think I'll do it then
[08:10] <Dodzey> mikeubuntu:i am using qinnstorms compiz packages, check out http://www.compiz.net
[08:10] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: plz say my nick when sending me a msg .. I cant track the channel
[08:11] <DanaG> In SuSE 10.1, I had to check "always request broadcast response" to get DHCP to work.
[08:11] <mikeubuntu> thanks, will do that immediately
[08:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ok guys how big should the linux-swap be
[08:11] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro I don't know about that command .. but hang on .. I am doing a quick install of tetex-base and tetex-bin .. I will let you know in an instant .. and yes, I will mention your nick ..
[08:11] <DanaG> I can't find that option here.
[08:11] <frogzoo> beerfan: well if you can't do it from the command line, then there's no way of binding a key to it
[08:11] <krang> harisund: Never mind, it turned out that I had the right command but that for some odd reason it wasn't working. I think it may have been an interrupted ifup that did it. The device was in the routing table, b ut not active. Anyway, fixed now. Thanks!
[08:11] <beerfan> so Ubuntu doesn't support external monitors?
[08:11] <hellboy195> nickgarvey; yes - many times - card is here and aktiv - i uses static ip and dhcp many times but it hasnt ever connected
[08:11] <harisund> krang good to know you got it working ..
[08:11] <BobSongs> Linux swap about double your RAM, some say; other say as large as your RAM.
[08:11] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: i'll install tetex-bin .. i guess it has what i need
[08:11] <Dodzey> mikeubuntu:there is how to section on compiz.net, check it out, all i would suggest is maybes downloading an earlier version of quinn's packages, they're were a lot of upstream changes and they've messed up the latest packages somewhat
[08:12] <krang> harisund: yep :-) cheers for the help
[08:12] <harisund> CVirus-Cilantro go ahead and do that.. I am donig that as well
[08:12] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: oh.. I had that problem.. with ubuntu.. which is why I use suse..
[08:12] <Paddy_EIRE> ram and a half then
[08:12] <krang> frogzoo: Take note, I had the right command, read the man page, and then you had to be a grumpy old tosser anyway. Thanks a bunch.
[08:12] <BobSongs> Or RAM and a half. You get the idea.
[08:12] <jbroome> !repos > geekdom
[08:13] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro tetex-bin has all the binaries .. so I am guesing the latex2pdf executable is a part of that package
[08:13] <hellboy195> hmm suse 10.1 isn working very well and 10.0 hmm i dont like it - i likeubuntu ;) - hmm but so many had no problems with that and at my friends home it worked fine :(
[08:13] <geekdom> How do I enable the universal repository in 606 server ?
[08:13] <Paddy_EIRE> hw to view my ram size in ubuntu?
[08:13] <jbroome> !repos
[08:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:14] <DanieC> Anybody's Toshiba laptop can be restarted in Linux?
[08:14] <geekdom> I want to apt-get install twm.
[08:14] <Dodzey> paddy:system >> admin >> system monitor
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey nice one
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> Paddy_EIRE: dare I ask, is grub installed?
[08:14] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro once you have the latex2pdf binary, you will just have to go 'latex2pdf file_name.tex' and you will get a .pdf file generated (hopefully)
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> TheGateKeeper no this is my mates machine
[08:15] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[08:15] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I'll see about that and keep u updated
[08:15] <Tauhshi> Hello
[08:15] <hellboy195> nickgarvey:  hmm suse 10.1 isn working very well and 10.0 hmm i dont like it - i likeubuntu ;) - hmm but so many had no problems with that and at my friends home it worked fine :(
[08:16] <flujan> hi guys... i want to add the pt_BR.ISO859-1 as the default locale in my dapper installation...
[08:16] <Tauhshi> I never could get SuSE to install . . .
[08:16] <flujan> how I should proceed?
[08:16] <jbroome> hellboy195: any reason you're repeating yourself?
[08:16] <BobSongs> I've got an interesting challenge to solve here. My mic doesn't record. I hear it thru the speakers but Sound Recorder won't capture.
[08:17] <Tauhshi> How much of a change would it be to use a 64Bit instalitation instead of a 32bit one?
[08:17] <Ghagge> anyone who knows if there is any way to install ubuntu with gnome but without all other packets
[08:17] <hellboy195> i forget to use   the  nickname :   maybe he couldnt see it without
[08:17] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I guess pdflatex will do the trick
[08:17] <BobSongs> I've messed with all the settings in the Volume Control panel. No dice.
[08:17] <Blissex> Tauhshi: complete reinstall, it is a different CPU, as say PowerPC and Intel are different (a bit less, but enough).
[08:17] <flujan> guys, how can I set a locale in ubuntu dapper?
[08:17] <Tauhshi> no, I haven't installed it yet
[08:18] <BobSongs> Locale?
[08:18] <Dodzey> bobsongs:you tried terminal 'alsamixer'?
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > big update
[08:18] <Tauhshi> I'm just wondering how much faster it would be
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > 86 updates
[08:18] <[Wiebel] > damn
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey how should i lay out this 32.27gb part in linux
[08:18] <flujan> i tried dpkg-reconfigure locales... but it do not allow me to choose the default locale
[08:18] <flujan> :(
[08:18] <harisund> yes Cvirus-Cilantro, in one command you should be able to convert all the .tex files into .pdf
[08:18] <Tauhshi> I have an AMD Turion 64 x2
[08:18] <DanieC> Anybody's Toshiba laptop can be restarted in Linux?
[08:18] <constantine-xvi> how do you disable wpasupplicant? it seems to give networkmanager problems
[08:18] <kastner> I'm having MAJOR issues getting php4-memcache on ubuntu server :/
[08:18] <BobSongs> alsamixer? I'll give it a whirl. I've tried re-installing the drivers, etc. I'll give alsamixer a whirl.
[08:18] <flujan> the gnome-language-selector do not allow me to choose the encoding as iso8859-1 :(
[08:18] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I'm RTFM'ing right now
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey i have 948.2 of ram
[08:18] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: Thanks alot .. Thank you for your time
[08:18] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro RTFM of what?
[08:19] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: man pdflatex
[08:19] <BobSongs> Ahh, yes. alsamixer. I remember. Okay. I'll try tweaking it.
[08:19] <NickGarvey> hellboy195: ah, I like ubuntu also, but I don't know how to help you from here
[08:19] <harisund> Cvirus-Cilantro don't bother .. just go ahead and try pdflatex file_name.tex
[08:19] <gekko`_> what's the task knotify for? just to output sounds on errors?
[08:19] <Dodzey> paddy:you'll need a 512mb swap partition, and the rest is upto you depending on if you need to share files with windows isntallations or what not
[08:20] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I need to convert them all at a time
[08:20] <BobSongs> Thanks Dodzey.
[08:20] <Tauhshi> Would it be required to use a 64bit install for a 64bit processor? Or could I still use a 32Bit
[08:20] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: I could manage .. dont bother .. Thanks alot
[08:20] <harisund> what did you use Cvirus-Cilantro?
[08:20] <CVirus-Cilantro> harisund: pdflatex
[08:20] <Dodzey> bobsongs:np, alsa mixer might not fix it, but its usually a bit better than the gui panel
[08:20] <harisund> I was thinking of using the find command .. how did you convert them all in one go? pdflatex allows for multiple files?
[08:21] <Samus_Aran> how do I completely stop all logrotating ?
[08:21] <BobSongs> Dodzey: you're probably right. But your help and thoughfulness is appreciated.
[08:21] <Ghagge> is there any way to install ubuntu with gnome but without all other packets?
[08:21] <Tamale> Hello, I'm having a pretty strange issue with my new rackmount computer install of dapper.  When I turn the computer on with a monitor attached, the resolution at x's startup is 1280x1024, which is what I want.  If I turn the machine on without the monitor turned on, it starts x at 640x480 and I can't make it any higher through VNC - 640x480 is the only option available.   How can I make 1280x1024 the default even if there is no monitor attached?
[08:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Dodzey is 512 sufficient for swap or could i do better i have 948.2 of ram
[08:22] <hellboy195> nickharvey : ok no problem thx ;)
[08:22] <jbroome> Tamale: i believe that's a VNC setting
[08:22] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: Xorg uses the monitor which is currently attached and turned on at startup to autodetect its parameters
[08:22] <Dodzey> paddy:i think you'll find 512mb to be fine, i have 1gb of ram and i havent yet seen ubuntu touch my swap
[08:22] <Blissex> Tamale: that happens because the X servers tries to read from the monitor the maximum resolution it can do, so it is dynamic. You need to put in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' the monitor parameters statically.
[08:22] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: if no monitor is attached, then it doesn't know what hardware you have
[08:22] <Tamale> Samus:  That's what i was afraid of.  This computer will be going into a datacenter with no monitor attached
[08:22] <Dodzey> but then again, ive never done anything very ram intensive
[08:23] <harisund> Ghagge whatdo you mean "all other packets" ?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: the way to work around this is to set the horizontal and vertical sync rates in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, therefore bypassing autodetection
[08:23] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: could you help me do this?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: I have 1.25GiB RAM and very often use up more than a half-gig of swap =p
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: first off, you need to know the sync rate of the monitor which *will* be attached at some point
[08:24] <Dodzey> samus_aran: haha, what do you run on it?
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: easiest way for that is Google for the model of that monitor
[08:24] <Tauhshi> Is Xubuntu worth a try?
[08:24] <Tamale> Samus:  Once it's in the datacenter it will never have a monitor attached.
[08:24] <harisund> Tuahshi definitely ... what are you looking for?
[08:25] <Tamale> Samus: All access will be through vnc
[08:25] <Tauhshi> Well, a "hopefully" windows replacement
[08:25] <Ghagge> harisund, i want a completely clean installation of ubuntu, basically only gnome and rdesktop, nothing else installed
[08:25] <harisund> Ghagge the default installation of Ubuntu you mean?
[08:25] <XVampireX> Ghagge: and what do you use?
[08:25] <harisund> Oh you mean you want to remove everything else you have installed currently?
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you said the problem was that when you start X without a monitor attached, it defaults to 640x480.  are you referring to X or VNC starting at 640x480 ?
[08:26] <Dodzey> Samus_Aran: im running flock, xchat, a terminal session, and rhythmbox under xgl/compiz and im using about 270mb of ram
[08:26] <daf-daf> Hi, I would like to know if I have been hacked for sure. I found i new wallpaper on my desktop saying "HAHAS UR COMPUTER HAS BEEN HAKKED" but strangely though my auth.log seems normal
[08:26] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I would assume the problem is X.  VNC works fine at whatever resolution the computer is currently outputting.
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: we use multiseat here (two monitors, two keyboards, two mice)
[08:26] <flujan> guys, someone can help me installing locales?
[08:26] <Ghagge> harisund, well, if i use the default installation it installs openoffice, firefox etc, wich i dont want, will use the computers to connect to a terminal server, the harddrives are only 1.6Gb, the entire installation dont fit
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: are you using X2VNC ?
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: regular VNC or TightVNC do not use or affect a real X server in any way
[08:27] <Tamale> the server is the default gnome "remote desktop" and the viewer is windows realVNC
[08:27] <Dodzey> Samus_Aran:ahhh, that would push your resources a little then, i run dual monitor, but its nothing liek running a dual seat setup
[08:27] <BobSongs> Dodzey! You da man. Listen: you were right. It didn't solve the problem, but it shows that it's disabled and I cannot record. Under "Capture" the text above Mic (CAPTUR) is in red.
[08:27] <Tamale> i just need the computer to force a higher resolution i think.
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you set their resolution in the respective VNC startup script
[08:27] <flodine> why are the dang repositoies so slow
[08:27] <flodine> is the bill due
[08:27] <Tamale> lol
[08:27] <Dodzey> BobSongs:hmm, two seconds, what sound card you got?
[08:28] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: KDE on one of the seats (spouses), icewm on the other (mine).  regularly run a lot of RAM intensive apps
[08:28] <harisund> Ghagge.. the only thing I am currently able to think of as a fix is to install the server version (which practically comes with nothing) and install just the gnome and rdesktop packages.. and not the ubuntu-desktop meta package which brings in all extra packages
[08:28] <Ghagge> harisund, yes, have tried installing just the server, but dont know how to install xserver and gnome afterwards
[08:29] <daf-daf> can auth.log be edited?
[08:29] <harisund> good point Ghagge .. I am afraid somebody else must help you out with that .. by the way have you tried an apt-get install of rdesktop? I am guessing the beauty of apt is such that it will pull along its required dependancies and nothing else..
[08:29] <Dodzey> BobSongs:that red 'Captur' afaik, shows you the current capture selection, which would be correct, cos you want it set to mic, move over to the right and make suer the capture faders are wacked up
[08:30] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Can you help me put the necessary lines into my xorg.conf to force a certain resolution for X everytime, regardless of connected monitor?
[08:30] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: e.g. we both have around 50 tabs open in Opera, we often use Xnest to give the kids their KDE desktop fullscreened when we're not using the computer, the gimp, gaim, gnu screen, apache, postfix, fetchmail, emulators, xmms2 with clients on each desktop, azureus (a RAM hog), livejournal updater, konqueror, gnu screen with dozens of screens (mc, bash, aptitude, etc.), etc.
[08:30] <XVampireX> Regarding ubuntu repositories, I don't know if it's a good place to post this, but I'd suggest a queue system, so the servers will never be so full/slow.
[08:30] <harisund> Samus_Aran I love Xnest :)
[08:30] <Tauhshi> When I boot the Ubuntu Desktop CD, it freezes and stops revving the disc at the ISOLINUX screen
[08:31] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: as well as fullscreen games here and there
[08:31] <Krafturinn_> is there some other solution for me if I wanna share to windows xp on my network
[08:31] <Krafturinn_> other than samba
[08:31] <Dodzey> heh...i love xnest too, except when it screwed up my xorg settings and my compiz went berserko
[08:31] <BobSongs> Dodzey: that's the problem. I can adjust them everywhere except under Mic under Capture. Seems to be an odd problem. I booted into XP to see if it was a connection problem but XP records just fine. I may have to re-install.
[08:31] <harisund> Krafturinn_ any particular reason you don't want Samba?
[08:31] <Samus_Aran> harisund: I love it when it doesn't bug out and crash .. I think it is doing so because of the nVIDIA driver, which is not all that stable normally, and even less so in multiseat
[08:31] <Ghagge> harisund, yes, it installs rdesktop but that is all, am still without xserver and gnome then
[08:32] <harisund> hmm..ok .. Samus_Aran it crashes once a while for me too .. though I can't really complain
[08:32] <Dodzey> BobSongs:so you have gone to the capture page, gone to Mic hit space, then moved over to the right to the "capture" channel and turned it up?
[08:32] <harisund> Ghagge.. oh sorry .. rdesktop won't pull anything.. I think what you are looking for is a tsclient .. have you tried installing tsclinet?
[08:32] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I'll give it the ol' college try!
[08:32] <Krafturinn_> harisund:  : i didn't manage to set it up correctly .....
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: X and VNC are entirely separate, unless you are running X2VNC
[08:32] <Ghagge> harisund, hmm, what is that?
[08:33] <harisund> Ghagge check out "apt-cache search tsclient" and "apt-cache show tsclient"
[08:33] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I'm 99% sure the problem is X, not VNC.
[08:33] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: <Tamale> i just need the computer to force a higher resolution i think.  << you're missing the point here.  VNC and X are not the same thing.  a VNC server is *not* an X server, it completely ignores /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:33] <BobSongs> I hear sound from the mic through the speakers. That's not the issue. The PC is receiving the feed. I get a howling feedback if I raise the speaker volume too high.
[08:33] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: with the one exception of you using X2VNC, which is why I asked if that was the VNC you were using
[08:34] <harisund> Ghagge ..oh no .. looks like if you install tsclient it is going to pull along ubuntu-desktop ... damn .. hopefully that shouldn't be happening .
[08:34] <BobSongs> heehee. It might be an install issue. I'm still trying to tweak the alsamixer.
[08:34] <VR_> which mirror can i use for the repos?
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: X2VNC uses your currently running X server to connect to with VNC, all other VNC servers start their own screen
[08:34] <harisund> Tamale you could use FreeNX if you know no monitor is going to be connected ...
[08:34] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I know, but if I have the monitor ON, boot, then vnc to the box, i get 1280x1024.  If I have the monitor off, boot, vnc to the box, I get 640x480.
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you still haven't answered my question ... what VNC software are you running ?
[08:35] <Ghagge> harisund, haha, well il try to install it and hope it doesnt bring ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <Tamale> I just enabled remote desktop.
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: in what ?
[08:35] <Tamale> In ubuntu dapper
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: how did you enable remote desktop ?
[08:35] <harisund> Ghagge let's hope so
[08:35] <harisund> Tamale remote desktop is a VNC server that exports the current display .. so somebody will have to be logged in for it to work
[08:35] <Tamale> system - preferences - remote desktop
[08:36] <tuxtux> ciao
[08:36] <gandalfcome> I have ubuntu dapper drake installed and am using gnome with and xgl server. My problem: I gave my NIC a static ip address but it seems to forget it every few minutes and I have to deactivate and then activate it again via the network manager that it gets it again
[08:36] <Tamale> harisund:  I bypassed that problem by enabling auto-login
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: if the server will only be used part of the time, I recommend setting up VNC with a display manager, so that when someone connects to the server, it will pop up a user login screen, and if someone else logs in, it will do the same thing (spawning a second, separate VNC server)
[08:36] <harisund> Tamale .. nice.. so now technically you can use any VNC server to login
[08:36] <harisund> I eman, vnc client tamale
[08:36] <Tamale> RIght
[08:36] <Tamale> it works fine
[08:36] <Tamale> I just have the resolution problem
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: okay so that is your problem right there: you are using X2VNC
[08:36] <flujan> guys, how can I set a default locale since dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work anymore?
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: switch to VNC or TightVNC or another one that does not use a real X server
[08:37] <BobSongs> Dodsey: Mic is set to "capture". I can hear the sound thru the speakers. But Audacity or Sound Recorder isn't capturing the feed.
[08:37] <BobSongs> Well.
[08:37] <Tamale> I am the only one who will ever connect to it.
[08:37] <BobSongs> Thanks for your help. I'll re-install.
[08:37] <Tomze> flujan: maybe edit /etc/locale.gen by hand?
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: there is no reason to be using a real X server, if there is no local user.  it uses more resources and will run into driver issues if you use binary drivers (such as nVIDIA)
[08:37] <gandalfcome> why does my ubuntu (6.06) forget its static ip adress after a few minutes
[08:38] <Tamale> It's just using the stock ati drivers, and I actually need decent graphic support for a windows program i'll be running through wine.
[08:38] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I am not too sure whether a re-isntall will solve it, but its worth a shot i suppose
[08:38] <harisund> so ghagge tried anything out?
[08:38] <nu> k
[08:38] <nu> !nvidia
[08:38] <doommssph1609> salut
[08:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <doommssph1609> ok
[08:39] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: so you need OpenGL support on the VNC server ?  if that is the case, X2VNC [what you're using]  is the only way.  it still isn't very efficient to be using that over a network.  anyhow, do what I said initially, set the modelines for the monitor
[08:39] <BobSongs> Dodzey: well, this IS a re-install. And the mic has worked before. Note: I put a DVD into the DVD drive and captured the dialog in Sound Recorder. So capturing seems to works. Just ... not from the Microphone.
[08:40] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: it will default to 640x480 unless it detects a monitor or has the sync ranges
[08:40] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I'm not sure how to add a monitor and modes manually.  Could you help?
[08:40] <BobSongs> But I've got my settings all stored for stuff like Firefox, etc. It's not a huge hassle.
[08:40] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: run "alsamixer" in a terminal and press Tab once to get to the selection of recording devices
[08:41] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: again: the monitor that is currently attached to it (during setup), look up its hor. and vert. sync rates.  if you will never again until the end of time have a monitor attached to it, then you can use any monitors sync ranges [that supports 1280x1024] 
[08:42] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Yep. Thanks. I'm there and have done exactly that. And it isn't solving the problem. When I reboot in XP it works. So it's not a wiring issue. Dapper is receiving the feed cuz I hear sound out of the speakers.
[08:42] <flujan> Tomze, i do not have this file in my system.
[08:42] <flujan> :(
[08:42] <BobSongs> This is where I wish I had a good 10 years experience under my belt! lol
[08:42] <gandalfcome> My ubuntu keeps loosing my ip adress after a few minutes any ideas?
[08:43] <Tomze> flujan: one more thing ubuntu does different from debian.. sorry dude :)
[08:43] <Dodzey> BobSongs:ive just switched to my mobo's onboard sound (I use a Delta 1010lt recording card usually) and im having a similar problem
[08:43] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I can get the information.  I just don't know how to put it into xorg.conf
[08:43] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: the microphone has an entry on the main alsamixer screen, that controls whether you heard it out of the speakers in realtime (normally you turn this off to avoid feedback).  the second screen with the input devices has one entry for each recording device (line in, mic, cd/dvd, wave, etc.).  there may also be a gain setting which is required to turn up or on before the mic recording will be loud enough to hear
[08:43] <flujan> Tomze, ok no problem... but i need to put the locale in pt.BR-ISO8859-1
[08:43] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: How it should be formatted, what the syntax is, etc.
[08:44] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Hmm. Interesting. You hear the sound thru the speakers but it won't record. Gotcha.
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: if you have audacity installed, it can be handy for realtime recording, as you can see if it is getting any signal
[08:44] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Oh yeah. I really, really,
[08:44] <BobSongs> REALLY like Audacity.
[08:44] <Networker> having trouble with the repositories, can't find a list of mirrors.. can someone point me in the right direction
[08:44] <Tomze> flujan: what about the command locale-gen?
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: personally I hate audacity, it can't be used for any largish projects due to a horrendous programming flaw
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: when you press "play" in audacity, it loads the ENTIRE wave sequence into RAM
[08:45] <gandalfcome> can someone help me with my ubuntu: it looses the set static ip adress after a few minutes
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: so for a CD length wave file in 24bit format, it would take gigs of RAM when you press play ...
[08:45] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Ahh! In Linux I cannot get it to record a second track while the first plays back as it does in Windows.
[08:45] <BobSongs> Yeah.
[08:46] <flujan> Tomze, it generates the locale pt_BR-ISO8859-1
[08:46] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: you're right. That's huge. What do you use instead?
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: if you want decent music and mixing software, check out Ardour (a high end app that supports unlimited input and output channels, realtime effects and an awsome interface) and RoseGarden
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I haven't used RoseGarden, myself, but it is used for digital music generation
[08:46] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[08:46] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i was just about to say ardour myself
[08:46] <sorush20> what is the best way to install the minimal ubuntu-gnome desktop since I'm already using most of the applications in kubuntu?
[08:46] <flujan> Tomze, http://pastebin.ca/115604
[08:46] <wubrgamer> i'm having an issue with a new monitor i just got myself
[08:47] <wubrgamer> in GDM, there is no menu bar
[08:47] <flujan> Tomze, but how can I define the default locale?
[08:47] <wubrgamer> the entire bottom portion of the screen is gone
[08:47] <flujan> i put the pt_BR.ISO8859-1 in the /etc/environment
[08:47] <flujan> but i still have this message:
[08:47] <schlumbergera> hi
[08:47] <Tamale> wubrgamer: You're sure it's not just "off" the visible area of the screen, right?
[08:48] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: I wouldn't mind paying for some decent software if it comes down to it. But if ardour seems to be the software of choice, then I'll go for it.
[08:48] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Ardour reads all files off the hard drive, and applies all effects in realtime, meaning it doesn't modify anything on the hard drive.  if you crossfade two tracks, that is just stored in a tiny data file, the actual crossfading is done in realtime when you play.  it uses almost no RAM compared to Audacity, and lets you play backward or forward at any speed with mouse drags
[08:48] <wubrgamer> it IS off the visible area of the screen
[08:48] <wubrgamer> but i can't drag the area up
[08:48] <schlumbergera> http://nopaste.debianforum.de/3829
[08:48] <wubrgamer> nor reposition it
[08:48] <BobSongs> Samus_Aram: WOW!
[08:48] <bangalore_guy> hi fyrestrtr
[08:48] <wubrgamer> the issues isn't with the monitor
[08:48] <bosco> has anyone here updated to EDGY yet
[08:48] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: check out both RoseGarden and Ardour, and ask in #Ardour for other suggestions -- it is a great channel, very active with the developers and users of Ardour (many of whom use other high end apps as well)
[08:49] <Tomze> flujan: i should not answer questions about ubuntu i think :) but in /etc/locale.gen on my debian install i got more then one local.. alle are commented out (#) except my default one
[08:49] <Dodzey> BobSongs:its good, but your still stuffed if you can't get capture working
[08:49] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> basco: Yes but not very stable lol
[08:49] <schlumbergera> http://nopaste.debianforum.de/3829 - but there is a /dev/md0, possibly a conflict between hotplug and udev? i use ubuntu breezy
[08:49] <Tamale> wubrgamer: what happens when you try to pan the image up?
[08:49] <wubrgamer> it doesn't go up enough
[08:49] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Ardour also supports a few standard plugin architectures, so many GNU/Linux and most Win32 audio plugins can be used with it (again, in realtime)
[08:49] <FiberOptics> Hi how can I 'Remote Desktop Connection' from Windows to Ubuntu?
[08:49] <Rinnt> Hi everyone.  I was wondering if any here could help me with an error Im getting while trying to get the Citrix client to work.  The errror is:" Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged"
[08:49] <wubrgamer> i'm using a syncmaster 204b btw
[08:49] <Rinnt> any ideas?
[08:49] <wubrgamer> it's a samsung
[08:50] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: you want to control ubuntu from windows?
[08:50] <BobSongs> Thanks again, Dodzey. You too, Samus_Aran. I'll check out Ardour... AFTER I re-install. BTW, I'm an old Windows hand. So re-installing is just par for the course. ;)
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale:    HorizSync    30 - 107
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale:    VertRefresh  50 - 160
[08:50] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: Yes, well atleast login via Remote Desktop Connection.
[08:50] <Dodzey> BobSongs:haha, the same here
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: those are my modelines for one of my monitors (a Dell UltraScan 1600HS D1626HT 21" up to 1600x1200)
[08:50] <BobSongs> Well. This IRC experience has been really, really cool. Far better than I thought.
[08:50] <BobSongs> I'm coming back!
[08:50] <BobSongs> :)
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: it goes into the Section "Monitor" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:50] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:51] <harisund> BobSongs, is this your first time?
[08:51] <BobSongs> I spend a lot of time at Ubuntu Forums. But this is a first. And it's super cool.
[08:51] <RunUO763> Oi mates
[08:51] <bosco> has anyone here updated to EDGY yet
[08:51] <RunUO763> Bobsonds IRC rox
[08:51] <schlumbergera> hello?
[08:51] <FiberOptics> BobSongs: Well I guess it's a big welcome :-)
[08:51] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: welcome to IRC, FreeNode, GNU/Linux, Open Source and Free software.  and do check out #Ardour
[08:51] <BobSongs> harisund: Yeah. First time. And loving it.
[08:51] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: let me read up a bit on this, I have it set up on suse but I want to skim how to do it ubuntu :)
[08:51] <BobSongs> lol
[08:51] <BobSongs> Yeah; IRC rocks!
[08:51] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: Okay mate.
[08:51] <Dodzey> BobSongs:just out of curiousity, what card do you ahve?
[08:51] <FiberOptics> BobSongs: It sure does :)
[08:51] <RunUO763> IRC FTW
[08:52] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: It's possible though right?
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I find the signal to noise ratio far, far higher on IRC than other chat mediums (such as instant messengers)
[08:52] <bangalore_guy> for the past one week, i have been trying to configure my internet connection with Ubuntu. Its not happening. can someone please help me?
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> so much time is wasted clicking pop-ups in instant messengers
[08:52] <BobSongs> Ah. Forgive my sloppiness and noobiness. Celeron generic machine; 512 Mb RAM; SoundBlaster LIVE! 5.1, nVidia vidcard
[08:52] <Dodzey> haha singal to noise ratio, good analogy there
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> bangalore_guy: what is your type of connection ?
[08:52] <RunUO763> Samus_ARan what IM u use in gods name?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: yes, but I am not sure how to get it to allow you to log in
[08:52] <FiberOptics> Ok NickGarvey
[08:53] <Samus_Aran> RunUO763: I haven't used an instant messenger since ICQ around 5 years ago
[08:53] <bangalore_guy> samus_aran, static-ip based connection. i just need to configure my eth card
[08:53] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I recorded my first bands demo with a soundblaster live
[08:53] <FiberOptics> NickGarvey: Do you know what software I'll need on my Windows Box?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: well to start off,  sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[08:53] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: LOL!! But still, following the threads through the noise took me all of 3 minutes to get "into".
[08:53] <wubrgamer> so anyideas guys ?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: yes, there is a program called "tightvnc viewer" which you should be able to find very easily through google
[08:53] <Samus_Aran> bangalore_guy: when you boot up, does Ubuntu automatically install the module for your ethernet card ?  e.g. if you go "ifconfig eth0" does it tell you "no such device" or does it display a few lines of text ?
[08:53] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Do you mess around with the Ubuntu Studio IRC?
[08:54] <bangalore_guy> ifconfig eth0 tells me that its up
[08:54] <RunUO763> Anyway i have a LAMP server, but i decided i dont need it anymore so i wanne set up a NAS/PrintServer/*something else cool?*
[08:54] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anyone know why Synaptic would be trying to uninstall totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin in the most recent batch of updates?
[08:54] <Dodzey> BobSongs: no, I do all my serious audio recording under XP (i know! i shouldn't!) but I have to make use of my Cubase, it cost me too much to throw to the side
[08:54] <RunUO763> pauldaoust conflicts with some other packages
[08:55] <epimer> hi guys
[08:55] <epimer> does automatix over-write your sources.list?
[08:55] <FiberOptics> Ok thanks NickGarvey I'm going to go and install that on ubuntu, be back later, leme know if you find out anything,
[08:55] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I mean IRC has more real content than pretty much all other online chat mediums put together.  it tends to be fairly overwhelming at first, as there are thousands of channels spanning hundreds of networks and thousands of individual servers
[08:55] <ucordes> hey all! anybody tried out the Ubuntu System Panel?
[08:55] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I find the experience generally easier when i have band members breathing down my neck telling me that they want to be louder and "where the hell has my snare gone"
[08:55] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[08:55] <gidim> Well, I decided to LiveCD it at first, I'm on from gAIM in Ubuntu. :D
[08:55] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: also most IRC clients tend to be for power users, so they themselves can be a bit sticky at first
[08:55] <pauldaoust> RunUO763: well, certainly, but has this been happening to everybody, and has totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin been rolled into another package or something?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> FiberOptics: you should look into ssh for remote admin also
[08:56] <RunUO763> i hate mIRC :| and windows
[08:56] <RunUO763> but iam on both =[
[08:56] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> lol
[08:56] <NickGarvey> RunUO763: gaim has an irc client
[08:56] <ucordes> RunU0763: why?
[08:56] <[Wiebel] > humz, is there no SDL_gui package in ubuntu?
[08:56] <RunUO763> putting that aside.. anyone know a linux prgm which compares to Mac-OSX FrontRow or WindowsXP-MCE?
[08:56] <BobSongs> Dodzey: woah, woah. Listen. XP is not that bad. I'm not a zealot. I paid for my XP and my music software. My XP just no longer roams the net. Too many spyware thugs out there.
[08:56] <Samus_Aran> I personally love mIRC.  my only complaint about it is it being proprietary.  mIRC has more features than all other IRC clients combined, and uses less RAM than irssi [my current console-only client] 
[08:56] <ucordes> NickGarvey: Does it support xdcc?
[08:56] <FiberOptics> Ok NickGarvey
[08:57] <Ghagge> anyone that can help on how to install xserver with apt-get?
[08:57] <RunUO763> ucordes this is my CS box and my server is out of breath atm :P
[08:57] <ucordes> :-)
[08:57] <khaled_> guys, what is the best msn messenger on linux ???
[08:57] <RunUO763> Khaled_ i liked gaim
[08:57] <Samus_Aran> I haven't had a Windows install since my copy of Win98 died, so it hasn't been an option to use mIRC on GNU/Linux (despite what people say, no, it does not run properly on WINE)
[08:57] <pauldaoust> khaled_: I haven't signed into a messenger program for a year or two :)
[08:57] <Ghagge> khaled_, i would probably say amsn
[08:57] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ohh, i agree, it's served me well, my DAW installation doesn't even have drivers installed for my wireless card, let alone connected to the internet
[08:57] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: I feared the power-users and didn't want to come here. After a mere seven months I still feel so awkward.
[08:57] <ucordes> khaled: depends on what features you need. for chat only and smileys GAIM is enough
[08:57] <RunUO763> Khaled_ but mercury messenger is really cool if u can handle the resource drag
[08:57] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Khaled: I would suggest amsn
[08:57] <bosco> khaled_, for msn specifcly that has webcan sopport AMSN
[08:58] <khaled_> yea, but i want something that really look like windows msn
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, it looks just like MSN in windows
[08:58] <RunUO763> Khaled_ u want commmercials and shitty popups?
[08:58] <ucordes> bosco: do you use the webcam feature of amsn?
[08:58] <flixil> kopete has support also
[08:58] <khaled_> no
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, i dont now but i have and so have my friends
[08:58] <abhinay> anyone can you tell me of a good dock for gnome ?
[08:58] <RunUO763> kopete is shittu when u have 500+ contacts
[08:58] <Samus_Aran> ew, MSN,
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, does everything that MSN does plus some
[08:58] <flixil> RunUO763: i don't have such a huge
[08:58] <BobSongs> lol
[08:58] <bosco> khaled_, and is open source not propritary
[08:58] <BobSongs> How do you guys do that?
[08:58] <ucordes> haha
[08:59] <BobSongs> Thats funny.
[08:59] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: the action you mean ?
[08:59] <BobSongs> Yeah.
[08:59] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: /me does something
[08:59] <BobSongs> It's a hoot!
[08:59] <RunUO763> o.. say /*ME txt without the *
[08:59] <Dodzey> haha, msn sucks, too much downtime, it just dies for no reason, but i have to use their networks as most of my friends use msn
[08:59] <khaled_> bosco: it seems that u really like it
[08:59] <Ghagge> anyone that knows how to install the xserver using apt-get on a dapper server installation?
[08:59] <RunUO763> Dodzey msn has no downtime ever here in the netherlands
[08:59] <BobSongs> I do dislike MSN.
[08:59] <BobSongs> :(
[08:59] <khaled_> so the options r: gaim, aMSN, mercury
[08:59] <RunUO763> only w. msn>msnlive swith
[08:59] <RunUO763> Khaled_ and kopete
[08:59] <khaled_> i will try them all and choose the best that suits me
[09:00] <khaled_> ok RunU...
[09:00] <khaled_> thx
[09:00] <BobSongs> lol
[09:00] <ucordes> i dislike icq :-(
[09:00] <BobSongs> Cool.
[09:00] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: IRC is full of commands.  the main ones are /who /msg /dcc /me /join.  most IRC clients will let you go "/help /command" or "/help command" without the slash
[09:00] <RunUO763> anyone know howto get a linux-box which compares to Mac-OSX FrontRow or WindowsXP-MCE?
[09:00] <Dodzey> msn live was an improvement, but i won't reap the **benefits** (hmm??!?) as i now use ubuntu and GAIM
[09:00] <ucordes> they save all traffic on central servers
[09:00] <RunUO763> icq has cool sounds
[09:00] <ucordes> so they know when i ordered weed
[09:00] <ucordes> lmao
[09:00] <gidim> I miss ICQ 2003b. ICQ5 is evil and must be destroyed,
[09:00] <abhinay> iam just get confusing , is it ubuntu channel ?
[09:00] <Tomze> center icq.. does it all
[09:00] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Excellent! Thanks for lifting up a noob.
[09:00] <ucordes> Tomze: what's the deal about center icq?
[09:00] <RunUO763> abhinay this is #ubuntu yes
[09:00] <bosco> khaled_,  i use it for everyday use with my MSN contacts when i need a webcam anymore i stopped using gaim cuz i had to switch back and forth from gaim to my web browser but for just chatting now i use MEEBO.COM you cant transrer files or view webcam there but i have a widget on my webpage that lets people chat with me on Meebo.com from my websist
[09:01] <khaled_> i can't find mercury on the list
[09:01] <RunUO763> khaled_ www.mercury.to
[09:01] <Tomze> ucordes: everything in a _screen_
[09:01] <RunUO763> i made a skin for it once
[09:01] <RunUO763> when i was a kid
[09:01] <abhinay> can youtell me a good dock for gnome ?
[09:01] <bosco> khaled_, meebo.com is ajax
[09:01] <wubrgamer> so guys
[09:01] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: there are two types of commands, ones that get sent to the server, and ones that the IRC client itself handles.  for example on FreeNode there are the commands "nickserv", "memoserv" and "chanserv" (for handling nickname registration, sending messages when someone isn't on IRC and registering channels)
[09:01] <khaled_> ok bosco, i will try it too, thx
[09:01] <wubrgamer> does gdm support wide screens
[09:01] <bosco> khaled_, no prob
[09:02] <Dodzey> RunUO763:check out MythTV
[09:02] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: most IRC clients will send a command to the IRC server, if it doesn't know what the command is.  so if you go "/nickserv help" (which is a server command), it will probably send it to FreeNode
[09:02] <Samus_Aran> RunUO763: do you have a 1982 high radiation CRT ?
[09:02] <dreameen> where do iget the most up-to-date sources.lisT?
[09:03] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Were those modelines that you gave me for 1280x1024?
[09:03] <Samus_Aran> RunUO763: one time my monitor died and I had to use my 286's monitor ... my god that thing put out a ton of radiation !  it only did 640x480 as well, heh
[09:03] <RunUO763> Samus_aran i have an old HP pavilion v70s 17inch CRT which is trying to kill me by making me bleed outa my eyes
[09:03] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i got my capture working
[09:03] <khaled_> bosco: do u really trust meebo.com, bc i donna like givin my pswd to a 3rd party, wht do u think?
[09:03] <RunUO763> khaled_ sec
[09:03] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Wow! What didja do?
[09:04] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: <Samus_Aran> Tamale: those are my modelines for one of my monitors (a Dell UltraScan 1600HS D1626HT 21" up to 1600x1200)
[09:04] <Tamale> khaled:  I'd never use an important password for an instant messenger account regardless of what IM client I use./
[09:04] <Dodzey> BobSongs: to be honest, im not sure, i messed with the settigns lots, and it just started workin
[09:04] <Dodzey> working*
[09:04] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: you should replace them with your own modelines, if you will ever attach a real monitor
[09:04] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Workin works.
[09:04] <bosco> khaled_, it is not open source but it may be a third parry but they are trusted and you are not really giving them your password they are jst the middle man for MSM server ETC....
[09:04] <RunUO763> Khaled_ most IM have a legit online version
[09:04] <bosco> khaled_, and others
[09:04] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: additionally, if you do not want 1600x1200, you should add a line for 1280x1024 as the default resolution
[09:04] <polishkoop> I'm having trouble getting ndiswrapper to work on dapper.  I blacklisted the bcm4306 drivers, got the windows driver installed, and configured my device.  But it doesn
[09:04] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: I suppose I should use the most "standard" modelines possible then, for 1280x1024.
[09:05] <RunUO763> ok Anyway... :P
[09:05] <polishkoop> it doesn't connect to my network
[09:05] <RunUO763> MythTV is not what iam looking for
[09:05] <bosco> khaled_, you are doing the same thing with GAIM when you use it
[09:05] <Dodzey> BobSongs: before you reinstall, want to have one more go at going through your alsa settings?
[09:05] <khaled_> Tamale: but the prob is that the pswd of the msg is the same as the pswd of the email.
[09:05] <Tamale> Samus_Aran:  Can we talk in a smaller channel?  I'd like to get some actual lines of xorg.conf code verified by you if you don't mind
[09:05] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I'll tinker more... but normally it works out of the box.
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: every monitor is different, that is why Xorg autodetects.  the monitor tells X what its valid ranges are, thereby avoiding using the wrong modes ever.  Windows lets the driver set the modelines (unless you just choose one of the standard monitors), which can cause problems if you change monitors
[09:06] <MrFatJack> I want to install the latest hplip (1.6.7). The one that the Synaptic manager shows is .9.7-4. How do gain access to the latest package?
[09:06] <RunUO763> i really want a MAC-OSX FrontRow type of GUI for my soon 2 be awsome media-box
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> Tamale: feel free to DCC Chat or Query me
[09:06] <bosco> are ther updates for synaptic it self
[09:06] <LnxSlck> hello everyone
[09:06] <MrFatJack> i'm current
[09:06] <bosco> like synaptic verson 2.0
[09:06] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I hate giving up so soon. But I feel like I'm working on a huge car engine.
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> bosco: one would assume so
[09:06] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: Please join channel #tamale when you get the chance
[09:06] <ucordes> anybody knows a nice video chatting community?
[09:06] <whiter> how can i  see my system information
[09:06] <khaled_> but gaim is open source, so it is secure... plus it's supported by ubuntu :)
[09:06] <whiter> like my processor clock and stuff
[09:06] <BobSongs> LnxSlx: Greets.
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> bosco: though it will inform you of such, when you do "mark all upgrades"
[09:06] <Samus_Aran> whiter: that depends on what system information you want
[09:07] <LnxSlck> anyone can help me setup my 5.1 channel sound ?
[09:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs:heh, have you tried reinstalling the alsa packages?
[09:07] <whiter> i want my processor speed
[09:07] <whiter> witouth having to cat cpuinfo btw
[09:07] <Samus_Aran> whiter: I wrote a script which collects a great deal of system info, if you want to try it out
[09:07] <whiter> alright
[09:07] <whiter> lets see it
[09:07] <bosco> khaled_, well it is up to you i have had no problems with  meebo.com since day one and nor has any of my other friends
[09:07] <RunUO763> Hit me
[09:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Oh yeah. That scared me. It warned that, like, half my O/S was going the way of the Dodo bird.
[09:07] <Tamale> Samus_Aran: for some reason DCC and query don't work very well in gaim for me
[09:07] <khaled_> bosco: yea, thx anyway
[09:07] <Samus_Aran> SYSTEM i686 Ubuntu (Debian) GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.15-26-k7, LIBC 2.3.6, GNU Bash Shell | CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+, 2172Mhz, 512KB Cache, 4348 BMIPs | MEM 834/1264MB RAM Used, 123/5773MB Swap Used | STORAGE 19GB ReiserFS, 2x278GB ReiserFS, 6x633MB TmpFS | STATS Uptime 3.69d, Users 2(16), Procs 154(3128616), Load 2.20 | X11 1600x1200x24bit (+1 more X server) | http://auk.ca/v
[09:08] <bosco>  Samus_Aran   so i can upgrade to synaptic 2.0 ...... therireticly
[09:08] <Dodzey> BobSongs:which packages did you try to reinstall?
[09:08] <whiter> Samus, can i have that
[09:08] <Samus_Aran> whiter: go to the URL at the end to get it, if that's what you want
[09:08] <whiter> k
[09:08] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I mean, how am I, a noob, supposed to react to finding out that removing alsa will cause 'ubuntu-desktop' to be uninstalled. lol
[09:08] <auk> yes, Samus_Aran?
[09:08] <dr_willis> Removing alsa? Geee....
[09:08] <BobSongs> Dodzey: So: I did it. And the desktop disappeared.
[09:08] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: dependancies are a funny thing, heh
[09:08] <BobSongs> Then I reinstalled all the bits and pieces. It seems fine now.
[09:09] <Dodzey> BobSongs:you actually removed it? hmmm.....try reinstalling the config packages and the like
[09:09] <RunUO763> BobSongs iam a linux noob.. basically how i work is format > make something work > understand why it works > format > apply previos knowledge and make something new work
[09:09] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: no kidding! heeheehee. Scared me good.
[09:09] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i wouldent think that removing ubuntu-desktop would remove much - since its a Meta-package.
[09:09] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: just don't try to remove "glibc", lol.  that would pretty much install the entire distro
[09:09] <Samus_Aran> *uninstall
[09:09] <BobSongs> RunUO763: Gotcha. Well, I've been re-installing Windows since *gasp* version 3.0.
[09:10] <Samus_Aran> the GNU C Library, used by 90% of the software on your system.  I wonder if Ubuntu even lets you remove it
[09:10] <Blinker> hey guys, I need to know if and how I can log as a different user in terminal
[09:10] <mathan> wow o_o lots of users
[09:10] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Okay. Uninstalling glibc now... wait! Nooooooo! *zZZzzzZZzaaaap!*
[09:10] <RunUO763> BobSongs i missed all that .. iam 18 and started the formatting with 2000 and XP
[09:10] <Dodzey> BobSongs:a wild guess but try marking alsa-base for reinstall and apply it, if it gives you scary warnings just leave it
[09:10] <gidim> So, this is how the other half lives?
[09:10] <LnxSlck> anyone can help me setup my 5.1 channel sound ??
[09:10] <frying_fish> Blinker: easily
[09:11] <frying_fish> (assuming you have more than one user)
[09:11] <dr_willis> LnxSlck,  i just mirror the front speakers to the rear in the mixers
[09:11] <TuxSurfer> hello-can somebody tell me if you have to have an active internet connection to install ubuntu?
[09:11] <Dodzey> dr_willis:thats cheating...haha
[09:11] <BobSongs> I don't fear Scary Warnings anymore. I fought Zurg and I won!! (Ref: Toy Story II)
[09:11] <RunUO763> TuxSurfer no
[09:11] <PF-Away> is the enhanced ctorrent available somehow in ubuntu?
[09:11] <Blinker> frying_fish: I'm running off the install cd, and need to get back to my installed account (restoring/recovering files)
[09:11] <LnxSlck> dr_willis, how do tou do that ?
[09:11] <frying_fish> if so, then if you want a real terminal, pick one (ctrl+alt+Fn) n = the number of the terminal, if not, open an xterm of some description and type sudo su USER
[09:11] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  ive yet to find any real 5.1 sound to play under linux.
[09:11] <Samus_Aran> I started on Commodore 64's, then moved on to an 8088 with DOS 3.1 and a green monochrome monitor
[09:11] <svu> is there any way to setup LVM during the ubuntu install procedure?
[09:11] <TuxSurfer> thanks runU0763
[09:11] <lontra> is f-spot not available in dapper?
[09:11] <PF-Away> svu: yes
[09:11] <dr_willis> LnxSlck,  slide the sliders arount  till it does it. :P
[09:11] <PF-Away> svu: choose it when partitioning
[09:11] <frying_fish> ok, so you have installed / are installing?
[09:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I believe that was one of the packages I initially DID remove. Verifying now. . .
[09:12] <LnxSlck> dr_willis, tryed that... doesn't work
[09:12] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: just download a movie trailer in 5.1, or play a DVD ... ?
[09:12] <RunUO763> TuxSurfer just pop in the CD and it will install an entire operational machine.. atleast u beter hope so (6)
[09:12] <Dodzey> dr_willis:i've never attempted it :P, im sure it'll be possible though
[09:12] <frying_fish> and if you just want access to the files, then mount the partition as /home (the one that was /home)
[09:12] <Blinker> frying_fish: yes
[09:12] <svu> PF-Away, I am trying to setup the flag 'lvm' - but it still asks for the explicit mount points (CD with edge)
[09:12] <TuxSurfer> thats great thanks
[09:12] <dr_willis> Samus_Aran,  does the dvd players under linux even support it? never noticed.. heck ive never notuced under windows either.
[09:12] <ucordes> is the logitech quick cam plugn play?
[09:12] <PF-Away> svu: i'm really a gentoo guy, just trying out ubuntu on a server here, and I saw the LVM choice
[09:12] <dr_willis> Samus_Aran,  only 5.1 i can think of was in some games. :P
[09:12] <nuaimat> hello
[09:12] <PF-Away> :P
[09:13] <svu> PF-Away, :))
[09:13] <frying_fish> ucordes: most likely
[09:13] <RunUO763> dudes i found something sweet check it out > http://equinux.com
[09:13] <frying_fish> mine was.
[09:13] <RunUO763> tahts what i was lookin for
[09:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yep. 'alsa-base' and 'alsa-tools' were removed. It wiped away 'ubuntu-desktop' in the flood.
[09:13] <ucordes> frying_fish: how can i try it out?
[09:13] <lontra> where can i get a list of mirrors?
[09:13] <MrFatJack> I want to install the latest hplip (1.6.7). The one that the Synaptic manager shows is .9.7-4. How do gain access to the latest package?
[09:13] <frying_fish> ucordes: plug it in??
[09:13] <frying_fish> and then type lsusb at a terminal
[09:13] <frying_fish> and see if it shows up there
[09:13] <ucordes> frying_fish: and then... ?
[09:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey: 'linux-sound-base' was also swept away in the torrent.
[09:13] <frying_fish> and then you can try xsane
[09:13] <RunUO763> my nick is really shitty
[09:13] <nuaimat> hi guys, i have ubuntu drapper , i use dial up connection , i dont want ubuntu to start dial up connection automatically upon startup , how can i control this ??
[09:14] <frying_fish> then change it...
[09:14] <ucordes> frying_fish: lsmsg recognizes it
[09:14] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i don't have alsa-tools installed, im guessing its because the SB live (uses 10k1 dsp) needs it
[09:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It was removed with the '--purge' optoin.
[09:14] <PF-Away> what is the name of the gnome cd burner?
[09:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey: No doubt.
[09:14] <manmadha> PF-Away, gnome breaker
[09:14] <ucordes> frying_fish: "ID 046d:0850 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Web"    but how can i caputre video/audio with it?
[09:15] <manmadha> PF-Away, it is better to try k3b
[09:15] <PF-Away> gnomebaker?
[09:15] <PaoloC> join #ubuntu +1
[09:15] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Oh, and 'gdm' was also submerged.
[09:15] <nuaimat> help me please guys,  i have ubuntu drapper , i use dial up connection , i dont want ubuntu to start dial up connection automatically upon startup , how can i control this ??
[09:15] <frying_fish> ucordes: xsane will definately capture pictures
[09:15] <dr_willis> !dialup
[09:15] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:15] <manmadha> PF-Away, ya it is better to install k3b w
[09:15] <frying_fish> and then I know amsn works with it.
[09:15] <manmadha> k3b
[09:15] <PF-Away> i myself have k3b
[09:15] <Dodzey> BobSongs:haha, sounds like you took out everything relating to gnome when you did that
[09:15] <PF-Away> but someone else on gnome wants a basic cd burner
[09:15] <Blissex> nuaimat: if it is connecting almost surely you have configured some server to do a DNS lookup at startup.
[09:16] <frying_fish> manmadha: not if you use gnome its not
[09:16] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I was really wanting to avoid using the "Oh well, it doesn't work... let's reinstall" mentality.
[09:16] <frying_fish> no point having one kde app that doesn't integrate with the rest well and won't look nice.
[09:16] <Blissex> nuaimat: almost surely that is happening because there is some missing name in '/etc/hosts', usually the name you gave to your PC.
[09:16] <manmadha> frying_fish, ya
[09:16] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, but, it doesn't work, you really should install :p
[09:16] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[09:16] <manmadha> frying_fish, u r right
[09:16] <Blinker> does the ubuntu install CD uses itself to emulate the filesystem? the files I'm trying to find arent showing up?
[09:16] <wubrgamer> i'm almost through this issue
[09:16] <BobSongs> Dodzey: the next step is *shudder* recompiling my kernel. Not something recommended for people with weak constitutions.
[09:16] <wubrgamer> HOW DO I CONFIGURE X DURING GDM !
[09:16] <frying_fish> gnomebaker seems to have most functionality
[09:16] <RunUO763> wubrgamer whats up?
[09:17] <wubrgamer> i'm not getting the best refresh rate during GDM
[09:17] <RunUO763> wubrgamer by entering the correct command in a terminal
[09:17] <frying_fish> Blinker: you can't just navigate to /home, untill you mount that partition manually
[09:17] <wubrgamer> but it works fine once i log in
[09:17] <frying_fish> mount it, to somewhere like /mnt/harddisk
[09:17] <nuaimat> Blissex: what to do with /etc/hosts
[09:17] <Dodzey> BobSongs:you might aswell back up your home folder and your synaptic packages and reinstall, it'd save less pain in the long run
[09:17] <BobSongs> Dodzey: True... I've got low blood pressure. But a kernel recompile could cause heart damage. ;-)
[09:17] <manmadha> frying_fish, but u can not burn the cd 's in multisession
[09:17] <frying_fish> and then look around in it
[09:17] <wubrgamer> yeah, so what do i neede to to to change the refresh rates for gdm ?
[09:17] <frying_fish> manmadha: no? oh well,
[09:17] <ucordes> frying_fish: when i click scan it crashes. any different method?
[09:17] <wubrgamer> what does gdm look at ?
[09:17] <nuaimat> Blissex: cat /etc/hosts    : 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu-desktop
[09:17] <manmadha> frying_fish, it is easy to use k3b......
[09:17] <Blissex> nuaimat: edit it to add your PC's name to it with a suitable address. That's usually the problem.
[09:18] <nuaimat> 127.0.1.1 ubuntu-desktop
[09:18] <nuaimat> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[09:18] <nuaimat> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[09:18] <nuaimat> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[09:18] <nuaimat> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[09:18] <frying_fish> ucordes: make sure you have selected the correct input
[09:18] <Blinker> frying_fish: got a command so go with that?
[09:18] <yoni> Hi, where from can I get: fuse-utils"?
[09:18] <Dodzey> BobSongs:what were you wanting to use ardour to record anyway? you play an instrument?
[09:18] <Blissex> nuaimat: is your PC called 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[09:18] <econthrust> which is the best text based irc client? does centericq do all the tricks, that bitchx can?
[09:18] <frying_fish> Blinker: sudo mount /dev/foo /mnt/harddrive
[09:18] <ucordes> frying_fish: i guess it is selected. says "quick cam web" in the title
[09:18] <frying_fish> (after making the directory first)
[09:18] <Dodzey> BobSongs: by the name, im guessing you play some instrument
[09:18] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Many thanks. I believe you're correct. Gentlemen: you've been a real please to chat with. Samus_Aran, RunUO786, et al. I shall return with a new setup.
[09:18] <Blinker> frying_fish: k, thanks
[09:18] <nuaimat> oooh damn it , i am losted
[09:19] <RunUO763> BobSongs np
[09:19] <BobSongs> ...a real pleasure to chat ...
[09:19] <frying_fish> ucordes: interesting
[09:19] <nuaimat> i am a newbie to linux,. i dont know what to put in /etc/hosts !!
[09:19] <frying_fish> well, run xsane from a terminal, and see the error message
[09:19] <Dodzey> BobSongs np, re-install is painless, when compared to windows, so we'll see you fairly soon im guessing
[09:19] <econthrust> which is the best text based irc client? does centericq do all the tricks, that bitchx can?
[09:19] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: MPlayer has full support for 5.1 surround sound.  on the downside, if you only have a stereo soundcard/speakers, it will only play LF and RF channels, dropping the rest
[09:19] <odla> is there something wrong with the mirrors right now?
[09:19] <BobSongs> /etc/hosts usually states your local IP which is 127.0.0.1
[09:19] <Blissex> nuaimat: open a command line screen console and type 'dnsdomainname'
[09:20] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Let me get the particulars
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: unless you use the MPlayer option: -channels 6 -af hrtf=m
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: or similar, which downmixes all channels into two
[09:20] <Blissex> nuaimat: that will tell you what name your PC is configured for. if it is 'ubuntu-desktop' then it is another problem.
[09:20] <nuaimat> Blissex: ok , i 've done that , nothing happens
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> dr_willis: I use that whenever playing a DVD or surround sound XviD, it makes a huge difference in sound quality
[09:20] <sire1> is there ara a way to install some packages using cd-rom repository?
[09:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs was an IRC newbee, now he's helping people, didn't take you long ;-)
[09:20] <manmadha> how to load i tunes in ipod?
[09:20] <BobSongs> nuaimat: I have two lines.
[09:20] <nuaimat> Blissex: no , theres no output
[09:20] <Blissex> nuaimat: and 'hostname'?
[09:20] <frying_fish> sire1: yes, apt-cdrom
[09:20] <BobSongs> nuaimat: the first is: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[09:21] <nuaimat> BobSongs: what ?
[09:21] <frying_fish> manmadha: there is no itunes in linux....
[09:21] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: if you want a word of advice about reinstalling GNU/Linux distibutions ...
[09:21] <Dodzey> sirel:or open up synaptic with your ubuntu cd in, if your scared of the command line
[09:21] <nuaimat> Blissex: how to add a hostname ?
[09:21] <Blissex> nuaimat: as in: ''type "hostname"' and what is the output?
[09:21] <manmadha> frying_fish, oh ok
[09:21] <RunUO763> nuaimat just edit teh fle
[09:21] <RunUO763> file*
[09:21] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: don't.  you won't learn how the system works if you are stuck in the "run into a problem, reinstall".   it is a Windows concept and has no role in the UNIX world
[09:21] <manmadha> frying_fish, then how to load them in ipod?
[09:21] <frying_fish> use some other program, like amarok (for kde people) or some gnome one that deals with it in gnome
[09:22] <sire1> frying_fish: but I mean that if I havn't internet connection and want to install xmms and other tings to play music and video?
[09:22] <BobSongs> nuaimat: the second is: 192.168.1.100 <personalhomepage.com> ubuntu
[09:22] <frying_fish> manmadha: I don't have an ipod, I have a zen.
[09:22] <econthrust> which is the best text based irc client? does centericq do all the tricks, that bitchx can?
[09:22] <Blissex> econthrust: many people like IRSSI
[09:22] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: I feel you are quite right. I hate doing it because it's so ... WINDOWS!!
[09:22] <sire1> can I do it with an additional cd?
[09:22] <frying_fish> sire1: have them on a cdrom, say if they are already on the install cd, then type apt-cdrom foo
[09:22] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: I spent many months doing that.  I learned very little until I stopped and worked out the various little problems ... and they *can* be worked out (unlike a lot of the weird and inexplicable Windows problems)
[09:22] <nuaimat> Blissex: type "hostname"
[09:22] <nuaimat> hostname is /bin/hostname
[09:22] <Dodzey> BobSongs:well stay, we'll try and figure it out
[09:22] <starm_> Hello all, if I connect to a server using ssh. start an application. lose my conection, reconnect, is there a way to get the output of the application again? That is to reconnect to its stdout?
[09:22] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I'm still here.
[09:23] <Blissex> nuaimat: as in *you* type "hostname"
[09:23] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: You're quite right. It's a despicable solution.
[09:23] <Dodzey> the first page of the gospel of windows is "if all else fails - format c:" :-D
[09:23] <nuaimat> BobSongs: what i can do with these two lines
[09:23] <frying_fish> starm_: use screen
[09:23] <Dodzey> in linux its "try, try and try again
[09:23] <Blissex> nuaimat: the command to type is "hostname" what's the result?
[09:23] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Windows NT 5+ is finally starting to offer some logging facilities, to help track why things don't work or crash.  Windows 9x is quite a joke for application problem solving.  all unices have no troubles in determining the source of a problem (if you know what you're doing)
[09:23] <nuaimat> Blissex: the output of 'hostname' is "ubuntu-desktop"
[09:24] <Blissex> Dodzey: actually it is ''read, read, read more''.
[09:24] <frying_fish> login via ssh, run "screen" then run your program, disconnect from the screen with ctrl+a ctrl+d
[09:24] <frying_fish> and then type screen -r to reconnect
[09:24] <starm_> ok doing man screen
[09:24] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Ensure these two are the first two lines in your /etc/hosts file.
[09:24] <nuaimat> Blissex: the result is "ubuntu-desktop" thats my hostname
[09:24] <sire1> but I think that in ubuntu install cd packages like xmms ar not provided, so is there are a cd's with extra packages like xmms, that I can download and use instead of apt repository?
[09:24] <Samus_Aran> Holy unbans, Batman.
[09:24] <frying_fish> sire1 possibly, go look on google
[09:24] <ompaul> !away > Derevko
[09:24] <sire1> :)
[09:24] <sire1> im looking.. :)
[09:24] <frying_fish> you could get the "dvd" that has all the packages ubuntu provides
[09:24] <ompaul> Samus_Aran, hehe
[09:25] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: you saw that too, huh, Robin?
[09:25] <frying_fish> but why not just download individual packages
[09:25] <nuaimat> BobSongs: i will try it , thank you
[09:25] <Blissex> nuaimat: well, that's bad news, because "ubuntu-desktop" is already in '/etc/hosts', and that was the most likely cause of calling out.
[09:25] <Tomze> screen -xR - screen d = attach it from more than one machine... support terminal :)
[09:25] <nuaimat> Blissex: what do u suggest dude ?
[09:25] <BobSongs> nuaimat: There's a bit more in my /etc/hosts file.
[09:25] <piclez41> hi, I'm trying to install "apt-get install phpmyadim" but it can't find the package, do I need to add new sources to my list?
[09:25] <sire1> becouse individual packages has lots of dependencies to other packages..
[09:25] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Don't bail yet.
[09:25] <frying_fish> Tomze: nice, never knew that much about screen
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: "screen -x" attaches a screen here without detatching it anywhere else
[09:25] <Dodzey> sirel:are you wanting to install ubuntu on a comp not connected to the net?
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: I always have my screens open wherever I am, and wherever else I might be =p
[09:25] <A[D] minS> !sources.list
[09:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:26] <Blissex> nuaimat: the second most likely cause is that you used somewhere _another_ host name. The third is that some other server, like the time server, is connecting to another server.
[09:26] <odla> http://pastebin.ca/115690   <- is there something wrong with that sources.list?
[09:26] <Dodzey> sirel:is that why you need the packages?
[09:26] <odla> i keep getting an error
[09:26] <Tomze> Samus_Aran: yes.. but then i can log in to machine a from b and c... and have them all display the same on the screen
[09:26] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Will you be hosting a web page?
[09:26] <crimsun> odla: yes. http://ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  is invalid.
[09:26] <odla> crimsun: what should it be?
[09:26] <crimsun> odla: you /must/ use a CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <sire1> Dodzey: yes I need a cd that contains all needed packages to install things like xmms mplayer and etc..
[09:27] <nuaimat> BobSongs: nope
[09:27] <frying_fish> anybody good with lirc?
[09:27] <nuaimat> Blissex: how do i get sure of that ?
[09:27] <odla> ok thanks
[09:27] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Then you probably don't have to add that second line I posted. Is you /etc/hosts file blank?
[09:27] <Astinus-> Hulloh, Is ifconfig obsolete/deprecated/replaced by something else?
[09:27] <Blissex> nuaimat: that is actually quite complex.
[09:27] <Dodzey> sirel:this might seem like a daft solution but you could use an ubuntu installation that has itnernet access to download all pakcages, then write them to dvd
[09:28] <nuaimat> BobSongs: no,  i am connected to the net now , does that mean my /etc/hosts will be different than offline mode ?
[09:28] <Blissex> nuaimat: ideally the dial program you use will put in something like '/var/log/messages' a line saying which address triggered the dial-out. From that it is possible to figure out why it is being called.
[09:29] <nuaimat> BobSongs: the output of my /etc/hosts is 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <nuaimat> 127.0.1.1 ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <nuaimat> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[09:29] <nuaimat> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[09:29] <nuaimat> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[09:29] <nuaimat> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[09:29] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: what do you mean ?
[09:29] <Renan_s2> !tor
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about tor - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <gr33npho3nix> is there a way to mount an ntfs drive as user readable via gui somewhere?(assuming you have sudo rightS)
[09:30] <Tauhshi> Has anyne used Isntlux?
[09:30] <Dodzey> nuaimat:you should have 127.0.0.1 localhost **YOUR COMPUTERS NAME**
[09:30] <anirban> Hi
[09:30] <anirban> how to start apache2 in ubuntu
[09:30] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: many channels have bots to help do channel maintenance (like that flood-kick), but even more do not.  you have to be fairly coordinated to run a bot =p
[09:30] <anirban> I did apt-get install apache2
[09:30] <anirban> install it
[09:30] <Dodzey> nuaimat:then 127.0.1.1 **YOUR COMPUTERS NAME**
[09:30] <Tomze> Samus_Aran: if i log in to machine a and type screen -xR then i can ssh from b and c to a and type screen -xR... and then have all three machines display the same picture on the screen.. real time
[09:30] <nalioth> Dodzey: nuaimat is no longer here
[09:30] <anirban> now will /etc/init.d/apache2 start will start it up
[09:31] <micahcowan> anirban: System -> Admin -> Services should have it
[09:31] <Dodzey> nalioth:oopsie, i should of been paying attention
[09:31] <cdmwebs> yes
[09:31] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: that is the same as screen -x, without the -R, is it not ?  I  only ever use screen -x, it never detaches old sessions, so they all show the same thing
[09:31] <Samus_Aran> Tomze: e.g. I have the same screen session here in a gnome-terminal and on TTY2
[09:31] <RamiKassab> hey guys quick question, one of my servers had an error_log file that was HUGE so I deleted it because it took up all of the space on the partition and wasn't allowing any new emails to come in. When I run 'df' now, it still says that partition is 100% used up even though it's not, is there something I need to do to refresh that data?
[09:32] <dreamthief> 127.0.01 @ Dodzey + anirban
[09:32] <dreamthief> 127.0.0.1
[09:32] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: is it Ext or ReiserFS ?
[09:32] <uniq> RamiKassab: try 'sync'
[09:32] <Tomze> Samus_Aran: well.. it seems like we are both happy ;) i will try to leave out the r some day
[09:32] <bit_doidao> hello there? any dns guru over there? i need force a win station to resolute a host into a local ip
[09:33] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, it's eXT
[09:33] <RamiKassab> ext
[09:33] <RamiKassab> uniq, ok sync will update it all?
[09:33] <anirban> I am remotely admining the ubuntu box using ssh
[09:33] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Hmm. Bots are a long ways down the road for me. I can't even program my microwave oven!
[09:33] <uniq> RamiKassab: maybe? it's worth a try.
[09:33] <cdmwebs> anirban /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:33] <dreamthief> bit_doidao, try the hosts-file ^^
[09:33] <nuaimat> BobSongs: sorry , i was kicked
[09:34] <BobSongs> nuaimat: No problem. You've got dial up?
[09:34] <nalioth> !tell nuaimat about pastebin
[09:34] <nuaimat> BobSongs: yeah
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: Ext reserves a percentage of space for root user.  afaik this space will not be reported as available (though I could be wrong).  if you're sure there is in fact 0 bytes free (try creating a 5KB a text file as root user), then remount read-only and fsck the drive to have it recheck free space
[09:34] <BobSongs> nuaimat: You have my sympathy.
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: heh
[09:34] <micahcowan> anirban: oh, sorry. In that case, yes, /etc/init.d/apache2 (or perhaps httpd?) should do it.
[09:34] <bit_doidao> dreamthief, im running a gateway server, and my boss run windows, so i need to force email.company.com.br to resolute on the internal ip, so the boss can use the internal ip when on the company network
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: there are microwave ovens that can run Linux kernels and simple software !  =p
[09:35] <nuaimat> BobSongs: i think there's something about controlling startup scripts , isnt it ?
[09:35] <zetor> hello all again!
[09:35] <dreamthief> hmm...
[09:36] <BobSongs> If you mess with your /etc/hosts file just right... sudo won't work!
[09:36] <anirban> Micahcowan
[09:36] <anirban> yeah I did that
[09:36] <dreamthief> internal  dns-server in the company?
[09:36] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, there's no way of doing this without taking the server down?
[09:36] <uniq> bit_doidao: setup a local nameserver with a copy of the company.com.br zone, change the needed instances to the local ips.
[09:36] <anirban> but also found out that I have to edit /etc/default/apache
[09:37] <dreamthief> uniq, thats exactly what i ment
[09:37] <dreamthief> ;)
[09:37] <uniq> bit_doidao: you can also setup iptables rules to redirect all connections to email.company.com.br to the internal IP.
[09:38] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: have you confirmed that there are zero bytes free ?  it might just be the reserved-for-root amount that isn't showing up.  how large is the drive and how large was the log file you deleted ?
[09:38] <BobSongs> nuaimat: So on that level you've got to be somewhat careful. If you're going to edit your /etc/hosts file, I recommend doing it in an editor like 'gedit' and keeping the copy running with the file open. And of course it must be opened in the terminal as 'sudo gedit'.
[09:38] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: I think it uses 10% by default, but it is years since I used Ext
[09:38] <nalioth> !tell BobSongs about gksudo
[09:38] <nalioth> nuaimat: open gedit as superuser using "gksudo gedit"
[09:38] <MrFatJack>  I want to install the latest hplip (1.6.7). The one that the Synaptic manager shows is .9.7-4. How do gain access to the latest package?
[09:39] <bit_doidao> uniq, i tryied the bind method, but without sucess. ill try the iptables one, let make in a brute way :) thank you for the "light"
[09:39] <nuaimat> !tell nuaimat about gksudo
[09:39] <move_> does ^z actually kill a program that's running in CLI?
[09:39] <BobSongs> nalioth: Is there an issue with sudo?
[09:39] <nalioth> move_: depends on how it's written
[09:39] <Renan_s2> move_, no, it "backgrounds" the program
[09:39] <DarkAudit> I'm having trouble getting the System->Preferences->Font Application Font settings to take. root session it works fine. User session the change is ignored
[09:39] <|thunder> whats the diff between gksudo and sudo ?
[09:39] <Renan_s2> and you can resume it typing 'fg'
[09:39] <nalioth> BobSongs: did you read your PM from ubotu? using sudo to open user space gui apps can corrupt user permissions
[09:40] <move_> what should I use to close programs?
[09:40] <Dodzey> |thunder:gksudo is for graphical apps if im not mistaken
[09:40] <Bob535> Hello everyone
[09:40] <ucordes> how can i send my XChat to the gnome system tray??
[09:40] <dr_willis> it pays to read a few bash tutorials :P
[09:40] <nalioth> !gksudo
[09:40] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[09:40] <|thunder> ahh, thanks D
[09:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs:any look with the audio capture?
[09:40] <dr_willis> ucordes,  Hmm.. not really noticed that feature.
[09:40] <avoine> i try to make a minimal ubuntu cd so i remove all big packages like apache,xorg but now i have a error saying that no kernel is found
[09:40] <nuaimat> BobSongs: my /etc/hosts is now open by gedit
[09:40] <Renan_s2> move_, ^C or 'killall name_of_program'
[09:40] <move_> ucordes_: if there isn't an option in the options to do it, download alltray
[09:40] <Samus_Aran> move_: generally, no.  it will "kill -STOP" it, which normally tells it to pause in background and wait for a "kill -CONT"
[09:40] <ucordes> dr_willis no plug-ins or anything?
[09:40] <dr_willis> ucordes seen it under windows with some xchat-systray program/add on.
[09:41] <Bob535> quick question, what is the root password by default for ubuntu? it doesnt seem to be the password I asked to set up my user account and I dont remember entering any other password
[09:41] <avoine>  but i dont think i touch any kernel package so do you know what i can verify?
[09:41] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, when I run df, it shows there are some bytes free but it says the partition is 100% full
[09:41] <MrFatJack> no root by default
[09:41] <whiter> how can i install nvidia drivers on ubuntu dapper
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> move_: if you use "fg" it will CONTinue the program, if you use "bg" it will send it to background
[09:41] <move_> thanks.
[09:41] <Bob535> thanks fatjack
[09:41] <nalioth> BobSongs: there is no root password.  Ubuntu by default doesn't use the root account.  It uses 'sudo' with your user password
[09:41] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, so I'm guessing the free space is the space reserved for root
[09:41] <BobSongs> Dodzey: No captain. The warp drive is in reverse and transporter's turning everybody into white, fluffy bunnies!
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> move_: same as if you had run the program like: command &
[09:41] <ucordes> move_: ok i will check this out
[09:41] <dr_willis> Bob535,  it should be that initial users password to use with 'sudo'
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> move_: once it is in background, you can check on it with: jobs
[09:41] <ucordes> dr_willis: interesting but i don't use windows
[09:41] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, but no one can receive email on the server now because the email program can't write to the drive since it doesn't run as root
[09:41] <|thunder> or try, jobs to get a list of jobs running, then kill %#, #being the number ofo thhe job that it lists
[09:41] <move_> how do you bring it to the foreground?
[09:42] <|thunder> fg %#
[09:42] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, the log file I deleted was huge but I don't remember how big it wa
[09:42] <Samus_Aran> move_: "fg" = "forground"
[09:42] <BobSongs> nalioth: gksudo also uses the same password.d
[09:42] <Dodzey> BobSongs:being able to hear it, yet capture not working is odd
[09:42] <move_> okay
[09:42] <move_> thanks
[09:42] <azureal> hi, i'd like to set a picture to be fullscreen wallpaper, but "fbsetbg -f" brings up a little message that says it can't find an appropriate prog to set wallpaper
[09:42] <nuaimat> BobSongs: what to do with /etc/hosts ??
[09:42] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's a poser.
[09:42] <KreativeLight> How do I create different identities in Evolution?
[09:42] <Bob535> It doesn't seem to work
[09:42] <Bob535> let me try some things
[09:42] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, logged in as root, I was able to touch a file
[09:42] <Samus_Aran> move_: it will be listed like "[1]  foobar" in "jobs".  you can use "%1" to reference that job, as in: kill -9 %1
[09:42] <azureal> (and it also advises me to install eterm, but is there another way?)
[09:42] <BobSongs> nuaimat: What is your reason for editing this file again?
[09:43] <dr_willis> azureal,  hmm what does eterm have to do with setting the wallpaper. :P
[09:43] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, btw, the drive is about 50 gb
[09:43] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Sorry for forgetting.
[09:43] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: but were you able to create a 5KB file ?  the problem with touch is that it won't use any disk space (so long as there are free inodes)
[09:43] <dr_willis> azureal,  dont want to use the  desktop-background perferance tool eh?
[09:43] <azureal> dr_willis: it has the command esetroot
[09:43] <nuaimat> BobSongs: :) nevermind dude , but what to do now ?
[09:43] <finalbeta> I've installed totem-gstreamer and codecs for divx etc etc. now I want to use totem-xine , but once installed that doesn't use the codecs.
[09:43] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, ok let me try created a larger file, would copying another file be sufficient?
[09:43] <Bob535> Blank and my user password do not work to access root, any other ideas? I just installed this fresh like 5 minutes ago
[09:43] <BobSongs> nalioth: If gksudo is better, then I'll use it from now on.
[09:43] <move_> Samus_Aran: what is the -9 for?
[09:43] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: yes
[09:43] <dr_willis> azureal,  thers a dozen programs out that can set the background. :P  some even let ya have them change randomly
[09:44] <azureal> dr_willis: it's kinda buggy
[09:44] <Dodzey> Bob535:there is no Root account by default
[09:44] <dr_willis> azureal,  oh? never noticed.
[09:44] <|thunder> it the extra kill , i dont use a -9
[09:44] <nalioth> BobSongs: also kdesu uses the same password.  kdesu and gksudo are only necessary for when you open gui apps as superuser
[09:44] <nu> hellooo
[09:44] <azureal> dr_willis: haha..at least my gnome one is buggy (for flux)
[09:44] <Bob535> Dodzey, how do I set one up?
[09:44] <nu> !nvidia
[09:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:44] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, copying a file worked fine
[09:44] <Dodzey> Bob535:why do you want tp?
[09:44] <dr_willis> azureal,  well fluxbox and blackbox and those others - may not play nicely with gnome. :)
[09:44] <Samus_Aran> move_: kill sends a "signal" to a process.  each signal has a name and a number.  if you go "kill 300" it uses the default signal of "15" or "TERM"
[09:44] <Bob535> tp?
[09:44] <azureal> dr_willis: oh, yea, i managed to freeze it once
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> move_: signal 15 just politely tells that app to finish up and close
[09:45] <azureal> dr_willis: by attempting to switch themes to metacity... lol
[09:45] <Dodzey> Bob535:anything you want to perform with root privelages can be done using sudo <command> or gksudo <command?
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> move_: the signal "9" is "KILL" and it generally will never be ignored.  it tells it to die now, do not save any files, just quit
[09:45] <Bob535> okay, thanks dodzey
[09:45] <move_> i see
[09:45] <Dodzey> Bob535: oops, sorry, i meant "to" not "tp" heh
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> move_: so normally you want to "kill -TERM" before "kill -KILL", to give the app opportunity to shut down properly
[09:45] <KreativeLight> Is it possible to create different identities in Evolution?
[09:45] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, basically, the space exists now, I just need linux to know it does so that emails may be received and sent again
[09:46] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Well. If you kept 'ubuntu' as the default setting and your user name shows up in a command prompt as 'nuaimat@ubuntu' then that first line should be fine, which is...
[09:46] <Dodzey> nuaimat: yup, that part of the config is just your computers name
[09:46] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: most likely the disk does have 10% reserved for root usage.  how many GB of that 50GB drive do you presume are actually filled up ?
[09:46] <move_> okay
[09:46] <move_> thanks
[09:46] <BobSongs> nuaimat: '127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu'
[09:46] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: try using "du" on "/" to get the totals of the whole drive
[09:47] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, after removing that log file, prob only half if even
[09:47] <nuaimat> BobSongs: no , mu username is 'moh'   moh@ubuntu at the command line
[09:47] <pkilgore> Is there a way to allow a dynamic library to only link against a certain user, who might happened to be a daemon?
[09:47] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, the partition is used only for emails and web servers (php, html, etc)
[09:47] <azureal> dr_willis: also, isnt eterm more like a gentoo thing?
[09:47] <pkilgore> azureal, actually I'm using Eterm right now
[09:47] <dr_willis> azureal,  no. its just a xterm replacement.. its Enluightenments Terminal
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: du -csh /
[09:47] <Dodzey> nuaimat:same principal applies, just so long as you put the computer name in correctly
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: see how much of the drive is actually used up
[09:47] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Sorry, dude. Okay. The line in /etc/hosts should read: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[09:47] <crimsun> no, eterm is a terminal emulator. It runs on virtually any posix-compliant system.
[09:47] <pkilgore> (then agian, I use Gentoo at home)
[09:48] <azureal> pkilgore: and fluxbox?
[09:48] <dr_willis> azureal,  it just has some tools to set the desktop wallpaper. that etrem is aware of. so it can do fake-transparency better
[09:48] <pkilgore> azureal, how did you know?
[09:48] <dr_willis> You can run eterm all ya want.
[09:48] <Intangir> where do i put up bug reports? i saw some little app that guided you thru filling out a bug report before, but now i dont remember where it was
[09:48] <azureal> pkilgore: and you use esetroot to change background?
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: keep in mind that e-mail servers such as Postfix require a certain amount of free space before it will receive, it won't download even if there is hard drive space, if it is below a certain amount
[09:48] <Dodzey> i'm pulling my hair out over ACPI here, its the only thing in ubuntu that ive never been able to get working correctly, anyone offering to help?
[09:48] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, there is ~26 gb used now
[09:48] <micahcowan> anirban, I'm surprised that you'd have to run /etc/init.d/apache2 to begin with; when I installed it, it came up listening right away.
[09:48] <finalbeta> I've installed totem-gstreamer and codecs for divx etc etc. now I want to use totem-xine , but once installed that doesn't use the codecs. How do I make totem-xine use the codecs?
[09:49] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, so there should be plenty left for postfix now
[09:49] <nuaimat> BobSongs: ok , i have changed the 1st line , what else should i do ?
[09:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, don't forget about gkrellm; But actually, I don't use setroot commands ever since fluxbox changed to where you can't call them from themes
[09:49] <Robert> Good evening everybody
[09:49] <bartist> hello,
[09:49] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Save the file. That's about all you need.
[09:49] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, is it really that difficult for the server to recognize the right amount of freespace?
[09:49] <crimsun> finalbeta: GSt and xine are different backends. You probably want to install libxine-extracodecs if you don't have it installed.
[09:49] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: ok, i already have gkrellm....
[09:49] <Dodzey> BobSongs:when you shut down your comp does it actually power down your computer
[09:49] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Is this file causing difficulties?
[09:50] <Dodzey> BobSongs:myne halts (i hear the fans disengage) but it doesnt actually power down
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: okay, so it does look like the problem is that the Ext has gotten confused about its free space.  only way around that which I am aware of is to remount the partition read-only and then fsck it to update the free space count.  perhaps google for: ext OR ext2 OR ext3 free space count
[09:50] <Dodzey> and its annoying me
[09:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, it's a nice little app it is.
[09:50] <Robert> Anybody here who knows how to get a DWL-G122 (Rev. C.) to work?
[09:50] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Not entirely. I believe mine does the same.
[09:50] <azureal> so what's your pt
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: there might be another way short of remounting it read-only (which won't be possible if it is being used)
[09:50] <bartist> i see movies in black and white
[09:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> pt?
[09:50] <BobSongs> Dodzey: You suggestin' I yank the ol' plug out?
[09:50] <nuaimat> BobSongs: thank you very much dude , i hope it will work, about the difficulties , i don't know , i just want to stop the pppd to start upon ubuntu startup
[09:50] <sethk> Samus_Aran, you are correct about fsck to fix it, but it should NOT be mounted.  Not mounted read only, not mounted AT ALL
[09:50] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: why did you bring it up if it won't help me change bg
[09:50] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, rebooting would probably fix it all right?
[09:50] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Ahh. So that's what you're after.
[09:50] <Dodzey> BobSongs: haha, no!, its just that i can't for the life of me get it to power down correctly
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> sethk: why is that ?
[09:51] <bartist> and i have all the Gstreamer
[09:51] <bartist> and xine codecs
[09:51] <Flowking> Samus_Aran: mount --bind /some/directory/to/share /var/ftp/make_this_directory_first
[09:51] <sethk> Samus_Aran, absolutely no way of fixing it while it is live.
[09:51] <finalbeta> crimsun, that package is installed
[09:51] <Samus_Aran> sethk: I always read that fscking a read-only drive was fine
[09:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, you can still use setroot programs to set the root, just not from the themes.
[09:51] <bartist> do you have any idea of what is happening?
[09:51] <sethk> Samus_Aran, no
[09:51] <move_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19717
[09:51] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Should be a big ol' switch at the back of the powersupply. Causes the whole thang to die right proper like.
[09:51] <move_> can someone tell me what's wrong with fglrx from that pastebin?
[09:51] <sethk> Samus_Aran, try it and read the warnings it shouts at you
[09:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> It has to go into .fluxbox/startup
[09:51] <odla> how do i make f-spot start automatically when i connect a digital camera?  i know that it's under removable drives, i just don't know the correct syntax
[09:51] <Flowking> Samus_Aran: "mount --bind src dst" that is
[09:51] <move_> I just can't figure it out
[09:51] <nuaimat> BobSongs: do i have to do anything else or just changing /etc/hosts is enough ?
[09:51] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: is that drive set to be fsck'ed on bootup ?
[09:52] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ive gotten in the habit of just holding the pwoer button in, but it'd be nice if it dorted itself out and did it itself
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> move_: I have never used fglrx, sorry.
[09:52] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: so you're saying if I have that in startup (which I changed today) it will  place the bg before the theme loads?
[09:52] <Dodzey> sorted**
[09:52] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, good question :) I'm not the actual admin of the server, one of my company tech guys is but he's out of the office right now
[09:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, yep. Just put it before exec /usr/bin/fluxbox
[09:52] <BobSongs> nuaimat: Just a second. I recall a post about this. I'll return momentarily.
[09:52] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I hear you.
[09:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> And be sure to append an ampersand to the end.
[09:52] <azureal> I was wondering about that... whether or not it would go off
[09:52] <Renan_s2> !mono
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about mono - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: is the mail drive the same partition as / ?
[09:52] <Renan_s2> !.net
[09:52] <nuaimat> BobSongs: ok
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about .net - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:52] <Renan_s2> !wine
[09:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:52] <BobSongs> nuaimat: What is the command you use to connect to the net again?
[09:52] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: it's going to be a running process!
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, no, mail and web files run on /home
[09:53] <azureal> i mean, ?
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: do you have physical access to the server ?  you can go to runlevel 1, which is single-user mode, for running the fsck command
[09:53] <Flowking> TomoKimo!!! .. your kungfu no good ;)
[09:53] <DarkAudit> Would KDE settings take over my GNOME font preferences and keep application font settings from taking hold?
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, / is it's own partition
[09:53] <sethk> move_, nothing in that paste is abnormal
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> single-user mode will detach SSH sessions, though
[09:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, it'll terminate as soon as the job is done.
[09:53] <sorush20> hi gus I'm compiling amarok and here is the make error that I get. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19718
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, no I am not physically able to get to the server
[09:53] <sorush20> could anyone here give me a hand plase?
[09:53] <nuaimat> BobSongs: i connect though the network-admin , gui tool for ubuntu
[09:53] <crimsun> sorush20: did you ``apt-get build-dep amarok'' first?
[09:53] <RamiKassab> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[09:53] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda2              7052496   1147696   5546552  18% /
[09:53] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda1               101089     78510     17360  82% /boot
[09:53] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda8             49051576  46559908         0 100% /home
[09:53] <RamiKassab> none                    512652         0    512652   0% /dev/shm
[09:54] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda6              1004024     16660    936360   2% /tmp
[09:54] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda5              5036284   1293308   3487144  28% /usr
[09:54] <DarkAudit> ouch
[09:54] <RamiKassab> /dev/sda3              6048352    469552   5271560   9% /var
[09:54] <sorush20> no I've downloaded the souce from sourceforge..
[09:54] <nuaimat> BobSongs: but the connection is "automatically" dialed upon windows startup
[09:54] <azureal> PASTEBIN
[09:54] <crimsun> sorush20: then do so.
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: no pasting in here, please
[09:54] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, well technically you don't have to put an ampersand after it.
[09:54] <nuaimat> upon ubuntu* :D sorry
[09:54] <sorush20> why crimsun
[09:54] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, sorry about that,
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: check in /etc/fstab to make sure it is set to check it on bootup, and then try rebooting
[09:54] <BobSongs> nuaimat: ...and you'd like the same for Ubuntu?
[09:54] <crimsun> sorush20: because it installs the build dependencies.
[09:54] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: ah, the example did not have one either
[09:54] <micahcowan> How do you disable a service for starting up? Admin -> Services only seems to affect currently running services, but doesn't set NOSTART.
[09:54] <geekdom> I am a bit confiused.  I want twm to run on 606 server and I edited the sources file and apt-get installed twm.   With the code installed, how to I get the graphics to come up.  Startx is not there and twm gives me errors.  I thought ubuntu would take care of the depenancies.
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: use http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or invite someone to #Flood
[09:55] <Bob535> Grrr, this thing still is not working
[09:55] <Bob535> It wont let me do things because im not root
[09:55] <nuaimat> BobSongs: no , i don't want ubuntu to automatically dial that connection , i want it to be dialed as i need it , not automatically
[09:55] <Bob535> but there is no root to be
[09:55] <Bob535> must make root
[09:55] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: great! i'll give it a go
[09:55] <Renan_s2> !vmware
[09:55] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[09:55] <Dodzey> Bob535:what are you trying to do?
[09:55] <Tomosaurus> Bob535
[09:55] <Bob535> edit xorg.conf
[09:55] <Tomosaurus> have you tried 'sudo'?
[09:55] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: the last number in the line in /etc/fstab determines whether or not it will be fsck'ed on bootup
[09:55] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, fsck isn't anywhere in fstab
[09:55] <Bob535> its read only for users
[09:55] <BobSongs> nuaimat: And is it automatically dialing in now each time?
[09:55] <Dodzey> Bob535:'gksudo gedit /etx/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:56] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, oh ok, in that case, it's set to 2
[09:56] <sethk> Bob535, you can use sudo to run with root processes.  You can set the root password, then become root, but that's more dangerous
[09:56] <Dodzey> oops
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: if it is a 0, that means it will not check it.  if it is a 1, it means it will check it first (before other drives), if it is 2 or higher it will check it after the other drives
[09:56] <Flowking> Hmm, im gonna get 2 new computers and one of them will have ubuntu... Nice work devel!!
[09:56] <Dodzey> etc**
[09:56] <Flowking> *=
[09:56] <Bob535> Thanks dodzey
[09:56] <Dodzey> Bob535:'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:56] <Dodzey> np
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: okay, that is how it should be (it will check it after the partitions marked as "1")
[09:56] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, so it will check it so a reboot should work, I just hope that all the services will start up correctly
[09:56] <micahcowan> Are you meant to edit the files in /etc/default by hand, or is there a GUI interface?
[09:56] <nu> hey guys
[09:56] <Dodzey> that should work, if it doesnt you have got a problem with user groups and sudo
[09:56] <nu> something's wrong with my font
[09:56] <Flowking> micahcowan: what do they control ?
[09:56] <nu> its like this for every distro i've tried though
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: hopefully, yes
[09:56] <nu> i don't know how to fix it
[09:56] <micahcowan> whether a given service starts up at boot time
[09:57] <Flowking> ok
[09:57] <AngryElf> i wrote a script, and stuck it in crontab -- where does it spit errors to?
[09:57] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, ok rebooting now
[09:57] <Niall> what is the link for installing integrated ati radeon xpress 200 drivers
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: wait
[09:57] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  it can email them to ya if you set it right.
[09:57] <nuaimat> BobSongs: yeah , but i didnt try what happened after changing the /etc/hosts
[09:57] <micahcowan> I'm used to the more typical rc.d system
[09:57] <nu> Niall: type !ati
[09:57] <nu> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, ok...
[09:57] <AngryElf> dr_willis, is that a crontab config, or part of the script?
[09:57] <timhaughton> Any Lenovo laptop users got their sound working in Dapper?
[09:58] <BobSongs> nuaimat: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199567
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: if you are SSH'ed in as root, you could stop all the services other than SSH (using /etc/init.d/service-name stop), and so long as no processes are left using /home, you can umount it and then fsck it without a reboot
[09:58] <nu> Does everyone's font look a little funky in firefox?
[09:58] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  i forget.. i  think it can be a crontab entry. time to  check some crontab examples/docs. :P
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: would be faster/safer, in case SSH doesn't start back up
[09:58] <nuaimat> BobSongs: ok , i will read it, brb
[09:58] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  i was thinking any output got emailed to root by default
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: if you are SSH'ed in as another user, it won't work, as that user is probably logged into /home
[09:58] <A[D] minS> i can't axx my home " write or edit files"
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: the "fuser" and "lsof" commands are useful for checking which processes are using a particular directory
[09:59] <Carsarus> ok, i'm having some slight trouble i have a dual boot system on my hard drive Windows and Ubuntu, but when i go into either system i can't view the other filesystems files
[09:59] <A[D] minS> what i have to type by chomd command to make me able to edit files in my home
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: fuser /home ; lsof /home
[09:59] <A[D] minS> !chmod
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:59] <agliodbs> hey, I'm thinking of setting up ubuntu on a new server instead of SuSE
[09:59] <jayk-> What Bob Song are you listening to? Mr Tambourine Man? :)
[09:59] <agliodbs> but I'm used to buying a DVD and installing from there.  How do I do ubuntu?
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: if you have no write access, chmod probably isn't what you need, it was probably not mounted properly
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: is root able to write on the partition ?
[10:00] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran: yes
[10:00] <nu> I installed my nvidia driver, anyone know where the settings can be edited? id like to use dual monitors
[10:00] <A[D] minS> thats why i think its chmod problem
[10:00] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I think that a reboot will be safe, we've had to do it before
[10:00] <dr_willis> nu got to do some manual editing of the xorg.conf - google for some twinview examples. and the nvidia docs
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> agliodbs: Ubuntu provides CDs free of charge (4-6 weeks delivery time), or you can download a CD or DVD image to burn on your own
[10:00] <_Rappy_> how am I supposed to run a .bin file from the shell?
[10:00] <nu> dr_willis: thanks
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: is this your /home partition, or which ?
[10:00] <rmw75> need help getting broadcom 4306 wireless card working
[10:01] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: it might be that some files are owned by the "root" user rather than your login user
[10:01] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran:  yes
[10:01] <dr_willis> sh whatever.bin
[10:01] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran: all files " even i can't creat files"
[10:01] <nu> <3
[10:01] <nu> im using xubuntu and i looooove it lol
[10:01] <_Rappy_> thanks dr_willis :)
[10:01] <nu> it sh!ts on suse
[10:01] <agliodbs> Samus_Aran: thanks.
[10:01] <Howitzer> Is it normal my /var/log/syslog's last log was over a month ago? :o
[10:02] <bit_doidao> Hi! Does anyone knows if i can "desvirtualize" a vmware machine and install it as a normal linux instalation?
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> unless the .bin is a .bin/.cue file, in which case it needs to be converted to ISO (bin2iso) or played as an MPEG file (mplayer foo.bin) or burned to a CD as a multitrack raw CD image (cdrecord)
[10:02] <Howitzer> it never wrote anything there
[10:02] <nu> when someone posts a link here on xchat, and i click it to open, i get an error. anyone else get this?
[10:02] <bit_doidao> nu, try to configure the default webbrowser
[10:02] <dr_willis> or a .bin could be a binary rom image file for an emulator... or it could be....  (get the idea) :PO
[10:02] <Howitzer> what error
[10:02] <azureal> nope, didnt work.... you lose Sir_Fawnpug =P
[10:02] <nu> bit_doidao: i have
[10:02] <nu> falae maluco
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: which user are you trying to create files as when you get that error ?
[10:03] <nu> the error is
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: and in what directory ?
[10:03] <runes2006> ok this may seem like a really dumb question: What do I use to create automated backups, and does that application also have a gui
[10:03] <nu> hold on let me make a link. www.google.com
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: use the command: whoami ; pwd
[10:03] <Dodzey> anyone using dapper actually got a computer that turns off when you shut down?
[10:03] <nu> !nvidia
[10:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:03] <A[D] minS> Samus_Aran: oem
[10:03] <Dodzey> because if you do I'd love to know how the hell you got it working
[10:03] <nu> error is
[10:03] <hussam> anyone here using xchat-gnome?
[10:03] <agliodbs> Samus_Aran: am I realistically going to be able to get Apache + PHP4 up and running in a couple hours?
[10:03] <runes2006> yes huss
[10:03] <A[D] minS>  whoami ; pwd
[10:03] <A[D] minS> oem
[10:03] <A[D] minS> /home/oem
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: I never shutdown, so I dunno if it works or not, heh
[10:03] <ThunderStruck> !anyone > hussam
[10:03] <azureal> i'm using xchat; it might be xchat-gnome =P
[10:04] <runes2006> agliodbs, yes
[10:04] <nu> unable to show url. there was an error launching the default action associated with this location
[10:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, did you test your setroot you're using?
[10:04] <nu> thats what i get when i click a link here
[10:04] <bit_doidao> nu, when i right click and choose open link in browser, it does what i want
[10:04] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  hmm..  you can set inittab to halt instead of reboot when you alt-ctrl-delete. or run the halt command...   all mine halt I think.
[10:04] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: okay, so what does this output: \ls -ld /home/oem
[10:04] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: i _need_ an app that can set bg
[10:04] <nu> bit_doidao: i get that error
[10:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, fbsetroot comes iwth fluxbox
[10:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> You can use others
[10:04] <azureal> trying feh
[10:04] <A[D] minS> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 2006-08-04 23:55 /home/oem
[10:04] <runes2006> ok this may seem like a really dumb question: What do I use to create automated backups, and does that application also have a gui?
[10:04] <Dodzey> dr_willis:ohh it halts fine, it just doesn't switch the damn thing off
[10:04] <azureal> yay =P
[10:04] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: well somehow you have changed ownership of your home directory to root
[10:04] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  thats an apci issue then.
[10:05] <bit_doidao> nu, im think it calls the default browser, that is configured in System > Preferences > Prefered Applications (i use brazilian ubuntu, so dont know the exactly location)
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: run the command "groups" please and paste the output
[10:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, e.g. fbsetroot -mod 4 4 -bg color -fg color
[10:05] <Dodzey> dr_willis: yeah, thats what i gathered, but any ideas how to solve it?
[10:05] <odla> how do i make f-spot start automatically when i connect a digital camera?  i know that it's under removable drives, i just don't know the correct syntax
[10:05] <hussam> ThunderStruck: I just want to know if the user list in a channel can be in 'user pane' like in the normal xchat.
[10:05] <nu> bit_doidao: i have the defailt browser det to mozilla firefox
[10:05] <A[D] minS> oem adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[10:05] <Flowking> runes2006: automate to what ? DAT/DLT/BAND Robot ?
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: okay, to fix it you can go: sudo chown oem:oem -R /home/oem
[10:05] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: and what will that do?
[10:05] <runes2006> dr_willis, I looked at your suggestions for adduser..I had to modify the adduser to allow for more than two users and chmod but it now works and sets the permissions of the public_html
[10:05] <gnomefreak> hussam: im sure it can be just look in menus
[10:05] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  check google for your brand motherboard/pc - perhaps tehres a bios update. or some bug with your specific pc/mb/bios/
[10:05] <bit_doidao> odla, configure it in System > Preferences > Removable devices (something like this)
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: but it would be good to figure out *why* it happened, or it may happen again
[10:06] <A[D] minS> thx Samus_Aran
[10:06] <gnomefreak> wtf
[10:06] <runes2006> Flowking, to a physical drive and partition
[10:06] <move_> the subject says if the repos are slow use a mirror
[10:06] <move_> what are the mirrors?
[10:06] <odla> i know but i don't know the right syntax
[10:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Azureal, that create a grid background with squares that are bg color and lines that are fg color.
[10:06] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: i don't understand your -mod switch...creates  a 'modula pattern'
[10:06] <Dodzey> dr_willis: it works fine under windows so i'm thinking it can't be a mobo issue?
[10:06] <Flowking> runes2006: id suggest using "dd"
[10:06] <bit_doidao> odla, f-sopt
[10:06] <dr_willis> runes2006,  :) where you the one doing a file server for his sisters school?
[10:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Azureal, hold on, let me find a screenshot
[10:06] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: why the hell would i want that?!
[10:06] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  it can be if the apci/bios stuff is not followign the standard that linux thinks it should be following.
[10:06] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: do you ever log in as root, or do you just use "sudo" ?  if you only use sudo, then it logs all the commands run as sudo ... if you look at that log, you should be able to find the command that changed ownership of /home/oem
[10:06] <Flowking> runes2006: it handles everything... tar does not hadle evolution mailboxes (pice of shit)
[10:07] <Flowking> :)
[10:07] <azureal> *sry for use of hell =)*
[10:07] <Dodzey> dr_willisL okay i'll do some googles and get back to you, thanks
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: unless you somehow mounted /home so that it is *always* owned by root user, that is possible as well
[10:07] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  i had a pc that the clock ran at 2x speed under linux , till i updated the bios. :P
[10:07] <bit_doidao> odla, try f-spot-import
[10:07] <andersja> All, hello there - I'm new to Ubuntu and just installed it on an old PentiumII (MMX) the other day. I have two rather significant problems at the moment
[10:07] <hussam> gnomefreak: there is not setting for it, I checked. The is only a button I can click that will temporaraly show the user list in a dialog window.
[10:07] <Flowking> azureal: tell twell tail of long haired bigfoot :)
[10:07] <andersja> a) anything involving my wireless card makes the machine freeze completely
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: after that "sudo chown" command, go another: \ls -ld /home/oem
[10:07] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: after i installed feh, the fbsetbg command works... so it's np... idk what you're trying to do now
[10:07] <nu> bit_doidao: check your PM
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: it should say oem:oem now
[10:08] <bit_doidao> nu, nothing here
[10:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, the modula pattern is just a preference.
[10:08] <bmonkey> hi
[10:08] <Flowking> gnomefreak: Ehum?
[10:08] <andersja> b) any action involving moving a large amount of files ( >40/50 files) - e.g. from a USB harddrive or from a CD-ROM makes the machine freeze completely
[10:08] <azureal> flowking: ?!
[10:08] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, luckily a reboot worked out just fine
[10:08] <Samus_Aran> azureal: do you have a Win32 install to see if it does the same there ?  that sounds like a physical hardware problem
[10:08] <nu> how do i register this name?
[10:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> And for the record, I happen to like it.
[10:08] <nu> so i can PM people?
[10:08] <runes2006> Flowking, no this is a site for myself
[10:08] <nuaimat> thank you guys , thank you so much , i would like to speically thank BobSong & nalioth
[10:08] <dr_willis> andersja,  permently lock up? or just temperary?
[10:08] <nu> !register
[10:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:08] <nuaimat> bbye
[10:08] <andersja> dr_willis: permanent
[10:08] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: good.  did it fsck it (is the free space count back) ?
[10:08] <bit_doidao> nu, i think that only registered users can PM
[10:08] <azureal> samus_aran: ?!!?!!?
[10:08] <runes2006> Flowking, dies it handle sql database backup?
[10:09] <nu> bit_doidao: yea im trying to register.
[10:09] <Flowking> azureal: hell dwell well
[10:09] <andersja> machine doesn't reboot, screen doesn't blank - it just freezes (for both the wifi card & the file moving)
[10:09] <dr_willis> andersja,  bummer.
[10:09] <bit_doidao> odla, it worked?
[10:09] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, yeah it's all back there
[10:09] <odla> bit_doidao: thanks it worked
[10:09] <Flowking> runes2006: "does" ?
[10:09] <Flowking> runes2006: :)
[10:09] <bit_doidao> odla, great to know! :)
[10:09] <andersja> dr_willis: any ideas at all?
[10:09] <Samus_Aran> azureal: I thought you were saying your wireless was locking up your machine, if not, nevermind me, I wasn't reading the rest of your conversation =p
[10:09] <Flowking> runes2006: "dd" is a lowlevel copy command
[10:09] <andersja> I already run with irqpoll and ide=nodma
[10:09] <runes2006> Flowking, typo crazed been working at this site for a week  great success but never did I think I'd have to script so much
[10:09] <dr_willis> andersja,  not even sure how to trouble shoot that..
[10:09] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: good, good
[10:09] <azureal> samus_aran: lol.. i never mentioned _anything_ about wireless
[10:10] <dr_willis> andersja,  could try going to the console and see if copying things from the shell does the same thing.
[10:10] <Flowking> runes2006: itll make sure you have what you need, tar will not
[10:10] <Dodzey> dr_willis: the only problem i got is i can't remember the product number of my mobo
[10:10] <andersja> the wifi driver is a known pb - found an entry on ubuntuforums
[10:10] <bmonkey> i installed Dapper altarnate. is it normal, that it starts without a x??? when i try startx, it does not work
[10:10] <Flowking> runes2006: Np.. just making sure yournt jolting
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> azureal: oh, too many "a" nicknames on tab-completion, pardon me
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> heh
[10:10] <nu> bit_doidao: try now. see if my PM went
[10:10] <aujordanh> is anyone here using broadcom 43xx??
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> andersja: that was for you, I suppose
[10:10] <tuxtux_> ri ciao
[10:10] <andersja> dr_willis: yes - I did cp -r * (a bunch of mp3 files) from the CDROM to /local/music and it got stuck after 30-40 files
[10:10] <odla> sweet now banshee loads my ipod too
[10:10] <odla> mono love :)
[10:10] <azureal> Samus_Aran: lol, i totally didnt know that xchat had tab completion ....
[10:11] <daint> sorry to ask such a seemingly common question, but how do I upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[10:11] <aujordanh> !upgrade
[10:11] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:11] <Samus_Aran> andersja: do you have a Win32 install to see if it does the same there ?  that sounds like a physical hardware problem
[10:11] <Flowking> azureal: Oh.. it does :P
[10:11] <bit_doidao> odla, i am an amarok lover :)
[10:11] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:11] <daint> thanks
[10:11] <CVirus-Cilantro> the one that comes with Kubuntu
[10:11] <andersja> Samus: good question - I used to have Win95 (on another hard drive)
[10:11] <azureal> Flowking, oh yes
[10:11] <odla> amarok is nice but a little too heavy on my computer
[10:11] <aujordanh> daint, anytime
[10:11] <odla> also i love GNOME apps
[10:11] <azureal> Flowking, it even capitalizes
[10:11] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I appreciate the help man, thank god all of the services started back up as normal
[10:11] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > TheGateKeeper
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> azureal: most IRC clients have some form of Tab-completion.  I am using irssi here, but X-Chat, mIRC, etc. also have it
[10:12] <bmonkey> i installed Dapper altarnate. is it normal, that it starts without a x??? when i try startx, it does not work
[10:12] <andersja> Samus - so the answer is - no I haven't got a Windows install on this PC
[10:12] <Flowking> Does xmms play mp3's in ubuntu ? .. redhat has patched it so that it does not and users are forced to use rhythmbox or other things
[10:12] <aujordanh> anyone here using broadcom 43xx
[10:12] <bit_doidao> odla, i love but, but didnt loved listen, banshee or even rythmbox
[10:12] <azureal> i've always loved xchat
[10:12] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I am, however, surprised that the filesystem isn't smart enough to recognize when the free space has been cleared automatically without having to fsck the partition
[10:12] <aujordanh> Flowking, yes if you have the mp3 codecs
[10:12] <Dodzey> BobSongs:any luck with the audio capture yet?
[10:12] <azureal> later versions for windows cost some money now =/
[10:12] <Flowking> Im angry at 666 redhat now (You nogood coders you..) :)
[10:12] <Robert> Does anyone know a howto to get a DWL-G122 (Rev. C) to work?
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: the only worry would have been if it wasn't able to boot up due to a partition error, it would have sat there waiting for you to put in root password to do maintenance
[10:12] <odla> i don't like rhythmbox  very much
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: in general, if it boots once, it will boot next time
[10:12] <bit_doidao> odla, and also, only amarok supports shortcuts with the super key combinning with other keys
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: (more-so than Windows =p heh)
[10:13] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, heh true true
[10:13] <bit_doidao> odla, so when i press super_key+right, it forward to the next music, superkey+up, it increases the sound..
[10:13] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I had never rebooted the system myself so I wasn't sure... anyways, thanks again... it's much appreciated!
[10:13] <aujordanh> can somebody with a broadcom 43xx driver paste their /etc/network.interfaces file?
[10:13] <Flowking> aujordanh: see this (other redhat "recommended players work great") http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/xmms_redhat_packaged/xmms_redhat_packaged.png
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> andersja: do you have any other Live CD distros that you could test the hardware on, such as Knoppix ?
[10:14] <Flowking> aujordanh: They are the "LOCKIN"-Devil itself
[10:14] <odla> bit_doidao: that's pretty cool
[10:14] <odla> do you run kde?
[10:14] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ? .... the one that comes with Kubuntu
[10:14] <Samus_Aran> andersja: a complete lock-up sounds like a hardware issue.  you might also want to try disabling some advanced features in your BIOS.  for me, Ubuntu crashed on boot until I disabled APIC in the BIOS.  but my previous distro was fine with APIC on ..
[10:14] <andersja> Samus: I haven't but that's a good suggestion
[10:14] <Dodzey> dr_willis: I can't find anything on google, ive tried boot options acpi=force and lapic with no success, any other ideas?
[10:14] <nu> How do i create a new folder on my desktop? (using XFCE here)
[10:14] <sycho> I istalled ubuntu using the x86 alternate. I then updated my kernel to linux-k7 using apt-grt and removed i386. but I still keep getting messages to update my i386 kernel. Why would this be?
[10:14] <aujordanh> Flowking, no free linux distros have out of the box mp3 support
[10:15] <nu> sycho: reboot, and grub should give you a list of kernels to use
[10:15] <Flowking> aujordanh: i was using linux before most anyone in this channel... im developing it
[10:15] <Flowking> aujordanh: I code gadmintools.org atm
[10:15] <micahcowan> Flowking, how is that relevant?
[10:15] <Samus_Aran> andersja: there are also a few devices which can't handle PCI bus mastering
[10:16] <Samus_Aran> andersja: they are rare, but it is worth it to try turning that off for one boot
[10:16] <sycho> nu: I did. and I loaded the k7 kernel. But auto update keeps trying to update the i386 kernel (which isn't installed). I want it to stop updating i386 though.. the
[10:16] <Flowking> micahcowan: hows you asking _that_ of any relevance ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  theres also apic.. and if you got windows installed several motherboard info tools that may tell ya what exact mb ya got.
[10:16] <FurryNemesis> has anyone noticed that compiz is behaving slightly differently after the upgrade?
[10:16] <sycho> If I let it update the i386 kernel it messes up my grub boot loader
[10:16] <Flowking> micahcowan: Wind went sour on the hillside ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  but disablignm that stuff normally DIsABLES the features you are wanting to enable
[10:17] <micahcowan> ?!
[10:17] <aujordanh> Flowking, then I obviously have absolutely no clue what you are talking about?
[10:17] <Flowking> micahcowan: who are you and why do you interfjeer ?
[10:17] <azureal> ah, anyone know how to remove some of the  horizontal lines on gkrellm?
[10:17] <sycho> Is there a file you can edit that tells it which apps to look for updates for?
[10:17] <Dodzey> anyone else find banshee slow in comparison to rhythmbox, i know it uses mono so there'll be some overhead, but it just seems so sluggish
[10:18] <aujordanh> Flowking, in that case can you help me with my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[10:18] <nu> sycho: try checking automatic updates. set it to off
[10:18] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: never heard of Banshee, myself.  I use XMMS2, here
[10:18] <Flowking> aujordanh Flowking, "no free linux distros have out of the box mp3 support" i know.. redhat patched xmms to not support mp3
[10:18] <ardchoille> Is anyone else having a problem with the repos?
[10:18] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Nothing yet. I've tweaked every setting in alsamixer without any success.
[10:18] <crimsun> ardchoille: read the topic.
[10:18] <azureal> ok, nvm, fixed  my gkrellm issue..set grids to 1 rather than 0 (auto)
[10:18] <Flowking> aujordanh: youre no coder perhaps.. then i see why youre not getting the lockin
[10:18] <Dodzey> if i use the media keys on my keyboard rhythmbox is already playing the next track before i finished pushing skip, haha
[10:18] <sycho> nu: I lilke the auto updates for everything else though.. except update the i386 kernel. Which I still don't understand why it is trying to update it since I removed it.
[10:18] <NickGarvey> azureal: yeah, right click the - okie
[10:19] <NickGarvey> azureal: :)
[10:19] <bit_doidao> odla, i loved kde for a long time. Ubuntu showed me how to love gnome :)
[10:19] <andersja> Samus: how do I turn of PCI mastering?
[10:19] <Flowking> aujordanh: redhat "Use commercial apps or dont listen to mp3's at all"
[10:19] <azureal> nickgarvey: hehe, solved it while you were typing? =)
[10:19] <Samus_Aran> andersja: it is an option in the BIOS as well
[10:19] <Dodzey> BobSongs: tried reinstalling all the alsa packages? it wont freak and ask you to do stuff to gnome if you just use reinstall
[10:19] <ardchoille> crimsun: Where can I find a list of mirrors?
[10:19] <nu> sycho: did you just mark it for complete removal, or just removal?
[10:19] <aujordanh> Flowking, or no longer free as in free speech right?
[10:19] <andersja> Samus: thanks - will try.
[10:19] <andersja> thanks for your help
[10:19] <BobSongs> Dodzey: That was done last night. To no avail, I'm afraid.
[10:19] <anirban> how to get php-mysql extension using apt-get
[10:19] <Flowking> aujordanh: not free as in anything dude
[10:19] <Viper550> I'm just wondering, why doesn't the sound effect feature on Gnome support OGG?
[10:19] <NickGarvey> azureal: yup :)
[10:19] <crimsun> ardchoille: on the wiki.
[10:19] <sycho> nu: i did apt-get remove linux-386
[10:20] <aujordanh> Flowking, ouch
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> andersja: I would definitely google for the card name and model which is causing the lockups, see if anyone else had the same problem (which would be hopeful, as then it would likely be a driver issue, not a hardware failure, like it seems to me to be)
[10:20] <BobSongs> Dodzey: the driver re-installation was very recent.
[10:20] <aujordanh> Flowking, you know alot about networking?
[10:20] <crimsun> ardchoille: or just change the CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:20] <sam_> Ubuntu christian edition? wack.
[10:20] <nu> sycho: uninstall it through Syanptic Package Manager
[10:20] <azureal> btw, since we're talking about removal, does apt-get remove do a "removal" or a "complete removal"
[10:20] <crimsun> sam_: it's as legit as every other Ubuntu derivative.
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: that seems quite lame
[10:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i know it seems like the easy way out, but you might aswell reinstall...
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: everything should support Vorbis
[10:20] <Flowking> aujordanh: speech must always be free (say "shit" on efnets linux channel, for each iteration youll be banned *2 weeks :P)
[10:20] <Viper550> OGG is Vorbis
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> free for everyone
[10:21] <NickGarvey> .ogg is vorbis in an ogg wrapper
[10:21] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ? .... the one that comes with Kubuntu
[10:21] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: yes.  ogg is the container, vorbis is the audio codec
[10:21] <runes2006> there's a difference between free speech and good manners
[10:21] <PMantis> incandenza, What is you I was chatting with about a new kernel and a slow laptop?
[10:21] <Viper550> Well, whatever! Thanks for explaining, either call it Ogg or Ogg Vorbis so you won't confuse me please
[10:21] <ardchoille> crimsun: I'm only using archive.ubuntu.com .. I removed the "us" part weeks ago.
[10:21] <agliodbs> hmmm ... this machine has only USB keyboard/mouse.  Will that be an issue?
[10:21] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: I just mean everything should provide ogg/vorbis support, it is a free and Free codec
[10:21] <Flowking> aujordanh: So we stuck an army of ugly bots there :)
[10:21] <runes2006> free speech is being able to say whatever you want but manners are knowing the time and place
[10:21] <sam_> experiment: Shit!
[10:22] <NickGarvey> !language
[10:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:22] <crimsun> ardchoille: so try {ch,de,nl,se}.archive
[10:22] <Viper550> But, why doesn't it?
[10:22] <ardchoille> crimsun: ok, thanks
[10:22] <Tomosaurus> agliodbs, I'm using wireless USB keyboard and mouse, so I doubt it'll be an issue for you
[10:22] <Samus_Aran> agliodbs: that is only sometimes an issue on older BIOSes, or if you are one of the tweakers that likes to remove the USB modules while the system is up (then you have no keyboard left to modprobe them again, heh)
[10:22] <Samus_Aran> agliodbs: but it won't be a problem for this lockup you're having
[10:23] <BobSongs> Well. Samus_Aran is right though in that I should continue to tinker before I breakdown and and wipe the entire system. I know it's just a local system; but if one is to get good at working with Linux one must remain patient. I guess the next step is re-compiling the kernel. I think this may be the problem. Don't feel bad, dude. You did good.
[10:23] <ucordes> how can i add items to the places section in USP (Ubuntu System Panel) ?
[10:23] <FurryNemesis> has anyone managed to mount a Nokia N70 Phone with Gnokii?
[10:23] <Flowking> ardchoille: no outside msgs... i was looking forward to speaking to someone sane today.
[10:23] <anirban> Oh I got it apt-get install php5-mysql
[10:23] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: No but i managed to mess up my d600 tranfslash with nautilus
[10:23] <BobSongs> Time for a nap.
[10:24] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Ubuntu provides several kernels.  try those before compiling your own when you're new to it ... there are hundreds of small details you can miss out, which will break random things, if you turn off features in the kernel
[10:24] <sycho> nu: is there a way to make it so when it updates the kernel it autoremoves the last kernel?
[10:24] <runes2006> anirban, are you setting up LAMP?
[10:24] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, lovely
[10:24] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, won't try that then
[10:24] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: on the other hand, if you have lots of free time, feel free to break things.  it's a great way to learn =p
[10:24] <Flowking> BobSongs: come on BobSongs.. youre still sleeping (matrix-style:)
[10:24] <ardchoille> Flowking: outside msgs? What are you talking about?
[10:25] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: well i guess it was my fault. you just should not format your card if your are trying to use it as mass storage
[10:25] <bjron> anyone know a quick/easy way to find all the IPs on my LAN (all 192.168 adresses) which are connected to something (ie, a computer of some sort)
[10:25] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Heyyy. You've got a point there. I COULD simply remove the current kernel in favour of another. OR I could boot to a previous kernel in the list I have at boot time! GREAT thinking, dude!!!
[10:25] <Astinus-> Samus_Aran: is it possible to view a list of all kernel config options?
[10:25] <BobSongs> Flowking: LOL!!
[10:25] <Flowking> ardchoille: unauthenticated messages are rejected by you (i refuse to auth)
[10:25] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, oops
[10:25] <Dodzey> BobSongs:if that doesn't work its highly unlikely recompiling will work, considering it was working on a previous install
[10:25] <BobSongs> Flowking: Is that what that huge thingie is in the back of my neck?
[10:25] <Samus_Aran> I think I'm going to go play Ancient Domains Of Mystery for a while ... have a good game going on, a very kind and heroic Trollish Paladin
[10:25] <Flowking> BobSongs Nighty man ;)
[10:25] <nu> sycho: not that i know of. i updated my kernel (installed xubuntu few hours ago) and the grub still showed me the old kernels. i had to uninstall them through synaptic
[10:26] <DanaG> argh, Compiz iz broken.
[10:26] <FurryNemesis> DanaG, what did you do?
[10:26] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Lemme try a previous kernel. That's an easy solution!
[10:26] <wubrgamer> hey guys what is the default usename and password for phpmyadmin ? (i.e. default mysql user ?)
[10:26] <nu> sycho: did you successfully remove the 386 kernel? or does it still ask you to update
[10:26] <BobSongs> It's listed in my Grub setup.
[10:26] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to remove all gconf items pertaining to it?
[10:26] <Flowking> BobSongs: Nope, thats just a Blob, Bob :)
[10:26] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: what ya wanna do with your phone?
[10:26] <BobSongs> Flowking: lol!!
[10:26] <Flowking> hehe
[10:26] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: yes
[10:26] <Dodzey> DanaG: yeah
[10:26] <BobSongs> ;)
[10:26] <sycho> nu: Still removing all of the old 386 kernels. theres a couple
[10:26] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, transfer music from my computer to it primarily
[10:26] <nu> wubrgamer: i think the username is 'root' and there is no password
[10:26] <BobSongs> I shall return!
[10:26] <nu> if not root, its admin
[10:26] <wubrgamer> thank you
[10:26] <nu> sycho: ok, i hope it works =)
[10:26] <Dodzey> DanaG: show hidden files in your home directory and delete the .compiz folder
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: I don't think Ubuntu has the option enabled in the kernel to have it show up in /proc, but it will have the configuration file in /boot
[10:27] <ardchoille> Flowking: What are yu talking about? Did you try to pm me or something?
[10:27] <DanaG> There are 2 different versions of compiz, and they seem to have confused each other with the other's settings.
[10:27] <Flowking> I wote for "BobSong"!!!
[10:27] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: ok. via usb?
[10:27] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, thing is, device manager can see it
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: just run "uname -r" or "cat /proc/version" to get the exact kernel version
[10:27] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, yes
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: then look in /boot for a matching config
[10:27] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: ok. look for a usb mode option on your phone then
[10:27] <Flowking> ardchoille: yes.. thought id say hi and ask what you code etc, i think we have spoken before and i liked it
[10:28] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: for me there are 3 options. i can choose wether my celly uses the usb as pictbridge, modem or just mass storage...
[10:28] <Dodzey> DanaG, just delete the .compiz folder in your home directory
[10:28] <Samus_Aran> alright, ADOM time.  g'day allveryone
[10:28] <ardchoille> Flowking: ok
[10:28] <nu> brb
[10:28] <DanaG> more like .gconf/apps/compiz
[10:28] <Flowking> ardchoille: This is why i dont like freenode... more and more locked in freedoms
[10:28] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, ooh
[10:28] <DanaG> Oh, and the NVIDIA drivers seem to be making all my consoles blank.
[10:29] <tich> does anyone know how to set up suspend? whenever i try to do it i just get a warning.
[10:29] <sycho> nu: awesome thanks. it worked.. It dosn't ask to update the i386 kernel anymore. Now is there a way to get it auto remove the old kernel when it update to a new kernel?
[10:29] <Flowking> ardchoille: Yup, ive made up my mind.. youre atleast as good a coder as me
[10:30] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: found something?
[10:30] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, don't seem to have any options here
[10:30] <goonies> is something up with the mirrors today =\
[10:30] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: take a look at your manual
[10:30] <Dodzey> DanaG: ohh yeah, sorry, i run Quinns packages, that .compiz folder just stores theme and cgwd settings
[10:30] <sethk> sycho, you do NOT want to do that.  keep the old kernel around for at least a few weeks until you are convinced the newer one doesn't cause problems.
[10:30] <micahcowan> goonies, us.archive works for me...
[10:30] <Flowking> ardchoille: Do strict azzm'96 ?
[10:30] <PeterPowell> Hello All
[10:31] <SkaFreak> Hey everyone, I was considering trying out ubuntu and while I was reading saw that you could get it with gnome, kde, or xfce, and I was wondering if you could use other window managers instead, like blackbox/fluxbox
[10:31] <sycho> sethk: good point..
[10:31] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: if it is a real mass storage, ubuntu will find it!
[10:31] <ardchoille> Flowking: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <bjron> sycho, just a thought, auto-removing old kernels when a new is installed *might* be bad, in case the new one didn't boot or something
[10:31] <PeterPowell> On the install it says 303:31
[10:31] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, fiddling.......
[10:31] <sethk> SkaFreak, of course, all of the ab ove
[10:31] <ucordes> ^^
[10:31] <PeterPowell> is that minutes
[10:31] <PeterPowell> or hours
[10:31] <PeterPowell> 303:31
[10:31] <SkaFreak> Alright, thanks wanted to make sure that I could keep fluxbox before I nuked my gentoo installation
[10:31] <goonies> isnt working seemless for me, might be my connection or something
[10:31] <Flowking> ardchoille: oh, didnt know there was a hangout channel.. neat
[10:32] <sam__> join #suse
[10:32] <sam__> sorry type
[10:32] <sycho> good points. anyway to remove old kernels when like 3+ accumalate?
[10:32] <sam__> typo
[10:32] <micahcowan> goonies, just sluggish, or actually not working?
[10:32] <PeterPowell> 303:31 TIME LEFT ON INSTALL - IS THIS MINUTES OR HOURS
[10:32] <sethk> sycho, I don't know of a way to do it automatically.  it really isn't difficult to do manually
[10:32] <sethk> PeterPowell, years
[10:32] <sycho> sethk: I know.. just a thought
[10:32] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, hmm, option here asking me for a host address - wonder if I should find the addy of the usb port it's plugged into
[10:33] <goonies> micahcowan, sluggish, like halts to a stop
[10:33] <PeterPowell> ERR
[10:33] <micahcowan> !shout
[10:33] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:33] <PeterPowell> OOPS
[10:33] <PeterPowell> sorry
[10:33] <PeterPowell> i have to shout on my chan
[10:33] <micahcowan> PeterPowell, I don't know, but I /think/ it's minutes
[10:33] <PeterPowell> good
[10:33] <acojlo> If I add universe and multiverse repositories will they clash with my packages from main repositories (different version, etc ...)?
[10:33] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: you sure this is related to the usb functionallity?
[10:33] <SkaFreak> If I'm going to switch to fluxbox immediately does it really matter if I use ubuntu or xubuntu, or will they all have the exact same result in the end?
[10:33] <Dodzey> PeterPowell....minutes i believe, but why is it talking 303 minutes? myne took 15 tops
[10:34] <micahcowan> goonies, maybe try comparing it to normal downloads off some other website?
[10:34] <PeterPowell> ill leave it to work all night
[10:34] <ColdDeath> Yeah mine took 15-20 mins
[10:34] <LnxSlck> anyone can help me setup my 5.1 channel sound ??
[10:34] <bjron> sycho, mb a script that runs periodically, but that's probably more trouble than it's worth to write
[10:34] <tomveens> Hey, there is going to be a live stream because Archimedes and his Ancient Writings Revealed! But it is in realmedia format and an rtsp stream, how can I watch it in ubuntu?
[10:34] <goonies> seems like its my wireless connection
[10:34] <sethk> SkaFreak, I'd do the expert install and select what I want.  in that case kubuntu or ubuntu are about the same.
[10:34] <tomveens> mean ubuntu dapper amd64
[10:34] <bjron> sycho, but you could just leave them all installed, and have grup only show the latest 3
[10:34] <SkaFreak> alright, thanks for the help
[10:34] <goonies> =\
[10:34] <PeterPowell> err
[10:34] <PeterPowell> it is partitioning c: 50/50#
[10:34] <goonies> funny how network monitor says my connection is a 100%
[10:35] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, no idea, but it's the only option I've got short of going the gnokii route and last time that was as useful as a chocolate hammer
[10:35] <micahcowan> goonies: :-\
[10:35] <micahcowan> sorry, man
[10:35] <sethk> PeterPowell, nothing in a normal install takes anywhere neer that number of minutes.
[10:35] <goonies> i do have the infamous wusb54g adapter
[10:35] <goonies> which took me hours to get it to work
[10:35] <Dodzey> PeterPowell even so, i repartioned my whole disk and it only took 2 minutes to repartition
[10:35] <sethk> PeterPowell, so I would assume that something is wrong there.
[10:35] <PeterPowell> :/
[10:35] <PeterPowell> should i stop it
[10:36] <PeterPowell> and restart
[10:36] <sethk> PeterPowell, partitioning only writes a single sector.  Takes seconds
[10:36] <PeterPowell> :/
[10:36] <sethk> it is making the file system that takes time, not partitioning
[10:36] <Dodzey> how longs it been going?
[10:36] <Dodzey> just started?
[10:36] <sethk> however, a newbie doing an install may not distinguish between the two.
[10:36] <PeterPowell> 20 mins
[10:36] <micahcowan> sethk, yes, but isn't that part of most people's conception of "partitioning"?
[10:36] <sethk> micahcowan, I hope not.
[10:36] <PeterPowell> it changed from 5 mins
[10:37] <Dodzey> i'd reboot, unless it looks like it's actually working quickly, it might be just a crazy estimate
[10:37] <sethk> PeterPowell, no way it should take anywhere near that long
[10:37] <PeterPowell> ok
[10:37] <PeterPowell> so i restart
[10:37] <PeterPowell> yes? or no?
[10:37] <Dodzey> unless you want it to finish in 5 hours time i would yes
[10:37] <sethk> PeterPowell, I would, yes.  how big is the partition?
[10:37] <PeterPowell> err
[10:37] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: well i don't know anything about this gnokii. but i tried to google for your problem and couldn't find anything. only cheap cable offers -_- ^^
[10:37] <Dodzey> like we said, it should only take around 20mins, plus time for partition and format's
[10:37] <PeterPowell> 35gb
[10:38] <PeterPowell> i partitioned by disk 50/50
[10:38] <sethk> PeterPowell, something is wrong.  restart.  you may see the same behavior, though
[10:38] <Dodzey> yeah, reboot
[10:38] <ColdDeath> Yeah, definately something wrong there
[10:38] <sethk> PeterPowell, try it.  if it happens again we'll have to figure out what is going on.
[10:38] <Dodzey> and let us no whats going on after
[10:38] <FurryNemesis> thanks ucordes , I'll keep trying
[10:38] <micahcowan> sethk, well, but during ubuntu installation, the partition manager does in fact make new filesystems when you partition (typically)?
[10:38] <agliodbs> no, this is a new machine, the bios works with the usb
[10:38] <sethk> micahcowan, no, not the partition manager.  the installation program.
[10:38] <agliodbs> the machine doesn't have ps2 ports
[10:38] <ucordes> ok tell me if you found out something
[10:38] <sethk> micahcowan, creating the file systems is a separate step
[10:39] <vianor> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a intel 133 MHz CPU, but it hang on startup with "Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel." and nothing more, what could be wrong here? Isn't my cpu supported?
[10:39] <PeterPowell> i have 10 cd's
[10:39] <PeterPowell> should i change it
[10:39] <ColdDeath> Just do a disk check, to make sure it isnt faulty
[10:39] <sethk> vianor, should be.  which processor, how much memory?
[10:39] <micahcowan> sethk, true: the next step. I thought it was something handled by the partion manager itself (as most "partition managers" also support filesystem creation). Anyway...
[10:39] <Dodzey> 10 cd's? what for?
[10:39] <PeterPowell> give to friends
[10:40] <ColdDeath> Probably got them from shipit?
[10:40] <PeterPowell> yup
[10:40] <PeterPowell> shipit
[10:40] <ColdDeath> Heh, I did that too
[10:40] <sethk> micahcowan, I've used fdisk, cfdisk, and sfdisk, and none of them support file system creation.
[10:40] <PeterPowell> i have one for mac os still to come
[10:40] <ColdDeath> Only got 5 though ;) I gave a coupel out
[10:40] <PeterPowell> for mt g5
[10:40] <FurryNemesis> sethk, ultimate boot cd?
[10:40] <Dodzey> they send 10? i thought they'dlimit you to 1 or 2
[10:40] <vianor> sethk: intel pentium 133 with 96 MB memory, maybe it isn't enough memory
[10:40] <PeterPowell> no
[10:40] <PeterPowell> max is 10
[10:40] <ucordes> move_: how do i start alltray?
[10:40] <micahcowan> sethk, I don't consider those partition editors: more like disk formatters? I'm thinking more of parted and the like (especially the GUI ones)
[10:41] <micahcowan> sethk, o course, fdisk(1) disagrees with me, now that I look...
[10:41] <ucordes> how to start alltray, anybody?
[10:41] <Dodzey> PeterPowell:started a fresh install?
[10:41] <harrytuttle> hi, on my system "xset q" says that dpms standby, suspend and off are disabled (=0) on my xorg. could someone confirm this is the default? shouldn't it be a bug? i mean, the defaults are 1200, 1800 and 2400 seconds, so says "man xorg.conf"
[10:41] <bagpuss_thecat> hey all
[10:41] <sethk> micahcowan, I can see why it sort of appears that way when you do the gui install, because they sort of mix up partitioning vs. saying which partitions are to be used for what (root file system, swap, etc.)
[10:41] <jayk-> how do i reconfigure my xserver? isnt it something xserver-xorg?
[10:42] <micahcowan> yup
[10:42] <bagpuss_thecat> jayk-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <Cicero> hello again ;) im at the end of my ideas ...i still cant get the cronjob working here. when i execute the command as user it works
[10:42] <jayk-> thanks
[10:42] <Cicero> but cron seems to ignore it
[10:42] <micahcowan> sethk, plus, I think many partition managers (again, esp. GUI) mix up the terminology as well.
[10:42] <PeterPowell> Dodzey, it is starting up
[10:42] <ardchoille> Cicero: What is the command?
[10:42] <Cicero> ardchoille: /usr/bin/fetchmail -akv -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"
[10:42] <sethk> micahcowan, probably, but that doesn't mean the we should follow them.  :)
[10:42] <micahcowan> forgivable, perhaps, because it's usually what you're going to do with any partitions after you've partitioned 'em...
[10:42] <Cicero> ardchoille: and it works great when i execute it normally
[10:42] <Dodzey> PeterPowell:ok, let us know if it gives you crazy estimates
[10:43] <bagpuss_thecat> I'm trying to add a printer using the CUPS interface on localhost:631, but after selecting the automatically detected printer, and choosing a ppd, it asks me for authorization. Neither my user account nor my root password work... what is the correct one that should work?
[10:43] <PeterPowell> im setting lang and time now
[10:43] <scott> can anyone help me with a media/firefox related question. when for example palying music via flash in a window in firefox, if i then browse in a new tab to a different website or refresh the current page then my music/video stutters in the other tab (in flash etc) while the current page loads. is there an way to avoid it from stuttering?
[10:43] <ColdDeath> PeterPowell: Right, tell us how it goes
[10:43] <YoussefAssad> yep. Don't brose away from the tab with the mdeia
[10:44] <sethk> scott, possibly you coudl set up quotas for how much bandwidth a single connection can use, but I think on average it would be more annoying then helpful.
[10:44] <sethk> scott, you would be slowing down every access, to fix the case where something is streaming.
[10:44] <scott> its not bandwidth related, more likely cpu time taken up causing the stuttering
[10:44] <sethk> scott, unlikely
[10:44] <sethk> scott, why would you assume that?
[10:44] <Cicero> ardchoille: and i can see that cron is working on my system ..cause it fills entrys into my /var/log/syslog file
[10:45] <scott> because what im streaming is very low bandwidth, i have an 8mb connection and its 64kb audio
[10:45] <Cicero> ardchoille: it also shows entrys when i edit the crontab user file
[10:45] <PeterPowell> wiping of the old one...
[10:45] <sethk> scott, doesn't compute.  If a new connection is downloading at maximum speed, it is going to crowd out other packets.
[10:45] <nu> How do i create a new folder on the desktop? (xfce)
[10:46] <wotdu> xfce doesn't have a desktop
[10:46] <nu> i can tbelieve i just asked htat question
[10:46] <nu> ok
[10:46] <sethk> scott, try increasing your streaming buffers.  if it behaves exactly the same way, then you may be right, but I'd be surprised.
[10:46] <nu> how do i create a new fodler
[10:46] <nu> folder*
[10:46] <scott> sethk, i KNOW bandwidth isnt a problem as ive done this in windows with the exact same files etc, so i can 100% garuntee bandwidth isnt the issue
[10:46] <wotdu> you don't nu
[10:46] <bagpuss_thecat> oh yeah, teh cups interface is disabled in ubuntu
[10:46] <wotdu> cos xfce doesn't support that
[10:46] <sethk> scott, no, that again is not correct reasoning
[10:46] <nu> why not?
[10:46] <bagpuss_thecat> one way to confuse a debian whore...
[10:46] <ardchoille> nu: on command line, it's: mkdir
[10:46] <Dodzey> scott, i hear you, i have the same problem but in windows it doesnt happen
[10:46] <wotdu> nu, ask xfce developers
[10:46] <sethk> scott, all that proves is that windows may be slower in bringing up the web page.
[10:46] <wotdu> it's supposed to be lightweight
[10:46] <wotdu> maybe you want to use gnome
[10:47] <nu> wotdu: lol
[10:47] <sethk> scott, in fact, your argument proves that it is not a CPU issue, at least just as much as it proves anything about bandwidth
[10:47] <nu> ardchoille: thank you
[10:47] <aujordanh> i have screwed up my /etc/network/interfaces file trying to get wireless to work at startup http://rafb.net/paste/results/mFgg3O86.html
[10:47] <TooDamFast> how do i get my screen back to normal after playing a game with out restarting?
[10:47] <aujordanh> anyone got suggestions?
[10:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm written a program that listens on INADDR_ANY:1024, but for some reason,  netstat -tl won't list it. Does anybody know why this might be the case?
[10:47] <scott> how so? my argument is that firefox hogs all cpu time to render current page, when its enaring finishing of rendering my music suddenly pops back in and stops stuttering
[10:47] <scott> that would seem to support my theory of cpu hogging
[10:48] <sethk> scott, not at all.  why wouldn't firefox, or whichever browser, running in windows not do exactly the same thing?
[10:48] <PeterPowell> firefox has some bad bugs
[10:48] <sethk> scott, why do you assume it is rendering, and not downloading?
[10:48] <scott> also add to the mix that my mouse pointer goes stuttery/non moveable for a few seconds while rendering
[10:48] <PeterPowell> still the best browser i seen though
[10:48] <nu> ok guys, noob question #2: my font looks a little funky in firefox. anyone else gets this?
[10:48] <userundefine> nu, no.  give a screenshit.
[10:49] <userundefine> *screenshot
[10:49] <bit_doidao> nu, try installing the ms fonts
[10:49] <Tamale> scott:  See if you have the same problems while downloading a large file.
[10:49] <nu> userundefine: ok hold on one second
[10:49] <scott> Tamale, will do, will try now
[10:49] <sethk> Tamale, good idea
[10:49] <bit_doidao> nu, some webmasters reference this fonts for the default font of theis websites
[10:49] <ozzloy> how do i install bugzilla on ubuntu 6.06?
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[10:49] <micahcowan> :-)
[10:49] <jayk-> i keep getting "No screens found" after i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:49] <jayk-> any ideas?
[10:50] <ozzloy> my google foo fails me
[10:50] <scott> downloading slackware iso as we speak whilist playing music and its fine....again, leads me to believe it isnt bandwidth ;)
[10:50] <nu> dont know how to take a screenshot =(
[10:50] <nu> bit_doidao: how do i install ms fonts? just bring them from windows?
[10:50] <Dodzey> on a semi-related note, does anyones flash audio just die on them for no apparent reason?
[10:50] <userundefine> nu, hit print screen button
[10:50] <nu> userundefine: it doesn't work. im using xfce
[10:50] <Dodzey>  i have to restart browser and faff around to get audio back
[10:50] <nu> it worked in gnome
[10:50] <userundefine> nu, ah...
[10:50] <nu> but not here
[10:50] <sethk> scott, you may be right, but unless you know that it would download more quickly if the music were not streaming, you haven't really proved much.
[10:51] <micahcowan> user-land, wow, I didn't know that: I just knew about the one in accessories. Thanks!
[10:51] <micahcowan> *userdefine, not user-land. Sorry
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> Im the first to add failover / loadbalancing to an isc dhcpd gui... im telling you, its taken 4 days already... 70-80 something hours
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> of coding
[10:51] <sethk> scott, many distro download sites provide data rather slowly
[10:51] <Tamale> scott:  Is it local music or streamed music?
[10:51] <micahcowan> Gah! userundefine.
[10:51] <userundefine> micahcowan, yw
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> gdb: lol
[10:51] <scott> sethk, i dotn think you properly understand what im saying, after the first run of a song im listening too, it is cached...i can play it even if i disconnect from net, yet it still stutters when browsing another page on another tab/window
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> gdb: You rule :)
[10:51] <gdb> lol
[10:51] <bit_doidao> nu, gnome-screenshot
[10:51] <scott> Tamale, streamed, but its the same with mplayer-plugin, flash etc
[10:52] <Tamale> scott:  That doesn't mean that networking can't be the culprit
[10:52] <nu> bit_doidao: didn't work
[10:52] <sethk> scott, well, you didn't say anything about caching.  Unless you are playing it from a local source I doubt the entire thing is cached.
[10:52] <Tamale> have you tried  multiple music players?
[10:52] <nu> bit_doidao: i am not using gnome. using xfce
[10:52] <sethk> scott, try a different browser, see if the results change.
[10:52] <TheGame> if i do sudo apt-get update does it check for a new nvidia driver
[10:52] <scott> someone kick me? :(
[10:52] <Tamale> name conflict
[10:52] <Magnus-swe> gdb: you should only know how much time ive spent to kill m$ and instead make something that works
[10:53] <sethk> scott, not me.
[10:53] <Tamale> (15:52:35) scott left the room (quit: Nick collision from services.).
[10:53] <Tamale> haha
[10:53] <Dodzey> and again
[10:53] <userundefine> TheGame, yes, if you already have them installed.
[10:53] <Magnus-swe> gdb: We have this now almost
[10:53] <Tamale> you need a more unique nickname.
[10:53] <Dodzey> change your nick
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: there hasn't been a new one released since dapper
[10:53] <TheGame> scott get a new nickname
[10:53] <gdb> nu: in a command terminal, run "xwd -root > screenshot.xwd" and then install the "imagemagick" package and run "convert screenshot.xwd screenshot.jpg" and supply that to whomever asked for it.
[10:53] <qwerty2k> kk
[10:53] <sethk> qwerty2k, that's better
[10:53] <TheGame> my nvidia drvier is causing problems
[10:53] <TheGame> but i dont want to disable cuz i like xgl
[10:53] <Tamale> qwerty2k: try different combinations of music players / browser
[10:54] <gdb> or png or gif or whatever your preferred format other than jpg
[10:54] <micahcowan> registering with freenode would fix collision problems, no?
[10:54] <qwerty2k> Tamale, its streaming through flash via firefox
[10:54] <jvaughn> hello, is there a guide on re-compiling the kernel "the ubuntu way"   I know how to do it manually.. but I saw someone explain a different approach with ubuntu
[10:54] <sethk> qwerty2k, one thing I've found is that firefox at times chews up cpu, and if you restart firefox it stops doing it.
[10:54] <gdb> jvaughn: It's identical to "the Debian way" if you've found the kpackage documentation somewhere.
[10:54] <Tamale> qwerty2k: how fast is your processor?
[10:54] <jvaughn> gdb: ok great
[10:54] <qwerty2k> Tamale, 2.4gig p4
[10:54] <micahcowan> !kernel
[10:54] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:54] <nu> gdb: when i did "xwd -root > screenshot.xw" it beeped twice but nothing happened
[10:54] <sethk> qwerty2k, I'm not sure exactly what type of data causes this problem but I've seen it several times.
[10:54] <jvaughn> thanks micahcowan
[10:54] <gdb> nu: It took a screenshot.
[10:54] <qwerty2k> sethk, :(
[10:54] <sethk> qwerty2k, if restarting firefox doesn't change the behavior, then this isn't relevant
[10:55] <Tamale> qwerty2k: I don't think flash is very well supported under linux.
[10:55] <qwerty2k> it happens every time i run firefox
[10:55] <Tamale> qwerty2k: i don't know with any amount of certainty, but it feels very buggy
[10:55] <qwerty2k> same thing happens when playing video with mplayer-plugin
[10:55] <sethk> qwerty2k, does top show 100% cpu usage when this is happening?
[10:55] <chriss_> salut
[10:55] <qwerty2k> will look
[10:55] <gdb> nu: Now install imagemagick and use the convert command to convert that x window dump format image into something people can actually use like jpg or png or gif or whatever.
[10:55] <micahcowan> Tamale, qwerty2k, it's pretty well supported, but proprietary, so we can't fix bugs in it. Also, the very latest versions aren't available, so some sites are inaccessible.
[10:55] <TheGame> how do i change my refresh rate
[10:55] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: ignore any distribution specific way and youll be fine... Ignore any "extra version" and just do it NIKE!  and youll need the grub/lilo configuration addition
[10:55] <TheGame> do i do it in xorg?
[10:56] <sethk> qwerty2k, you can lower the priority of the firefox process
[10:56] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: Btw: "Thanks J"
[10:56] <ozzloy> how do i install bugzilla on ubuntu 6.06?  can't find it on google
[10:56] <Evil_Ed`> hey
[10:56] <nu> gdb: thanks
[10:56] <Evil_Ed`> interest
[10:56] <micahcowan> TheGame,  System > Preferences > Screen Resolution has it.
[10:56] <sethk> qwerty2k, see what effect this has
[10:56] <Feral_Kid> I am having some issues with getting the bcm4xx (AirForce One) wifi card working.... When I boot, network-manager attempts to connect... When I do a iwconfig, it shows the access point... After a few minutes, the wifi indicator starts blinking and iwconfig doesn't give me any indicator that the interface is working...
[10:56] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: Appreciate it to the point of survival
[10:56] <gdb> nu: sure thing -- there may be some other method in xfce for taking screenshots, but I don't know it.  the method i gave you, while involved, will work anywhere
[10:56] <qwerty2k> sethk, i gave it nice-4 no difference, on normal (0) it uses 50% processor
[10:56] <TheGame> is 75hz best for 1280x1024
[10:57] <qwerty2k> (at 50% thats when my system semi freezes while it does its stuff)
[10:57] <Tamale> micahcowan: I don't see how you can say "very well supported" and "proprietary"  in the same sentence ;)
[10:57] <TheGame> or is 60hz better
[10:57] <rki> TheGame, no ash high as possible is best
[10:57] <Chousuke> TheGame: the more the better. :P
[10:57] <nu> gdb: imagemagick will take up 141mb
[10:57] <TheGame> hmm
[10:57] <gdb> nu: :-(
[10:57] <nu> gdb: thats alot lol
[10:57] <micahcowan> Tamale, fair enough. :-)
[10:57] <Chousuke> as long as your monitor can handle it.
[10:57] <TheGame> im having a problem with java apps
[10:57] <TheGame> and its because of the nvidia driver
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: No its more likely to be because of xgl
[10:58] <Tamale> my monitor runs at 10,000 hz
[10:58] <ucordes> anyody knows a good file transfer manager for XChat?
[10:58] <gdb> nu: Perhaps xfce will have some image viewer that can convert it.
[10:58] <sethk> qwerty2k, that proves that it isn't a cpu issue.  has to be some other resource
[10:58] <nu> gdb:  thanks though. In gnome, i just pressed the print src key and it took one
[10:58] <Chousuke> 60Hz is usually too low.. 75Hz is the bare minimum I can stand to use.
[10:58] <TheGame> hmm
[10:58] <nu> i widh it was that easy
[10:58] <micahcowan> TheGame, I tend to use 75khz
[10:58] <micahcowan> Tamale, really? what resolution?
[10:58] <gdb> nu: You might try to open it using the XFCE file browser, see what app it opens with, and then try to Save As to convert it.
[10:58] <CokeNCode> hey guys, question, is it possible to get gaim to open up my email like msn messenger does ?
[10:58] <qwerty2k> sethk, went up to 89% that time :(
[10:58] <TheGame> so how do i disable xgl real quick
[10:58] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: If anyone is beeing rotten to the core.. tell us, "drunken monkeys" ;)
[10:58] <Dodzey> I use 1280x1024 @ 75hz
[10:58] <Tamale> micahcowan: 38287267x4728472
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> I use 60hz (because my lcd panel works optimally at that resolution - no need for more than 60 with an lcd panel
[10:59] <gdb> h3sp4wn: It's meaningless, anyway.
[10:59] <micahcowan> Ah. Multiple-display "monitor"?
[10:59] <gdb> h3sp4wn: LCDs do not have refresh rates.
[10:59] <TheGame> ya they do
[10:59] <gdb> TheGame: No, they don't.
[10:59] <TheGame> hmm
[10:59] <micahcowan> gdb, yeah they do.
[10:59] <AngryElf> how can i find out what process is using /dev/dsp?
[10:59] <gdb> No, they don't.
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> gdb: The picture looks worse if I set it to 75hz
[10:59] <sethk> qwerty2k, well, that's more interesting.  I would expect it to peg cpu at 100%.  try a more dramatic change with nice.
[10:59] <TheGame> is there a command to stop xgl
[10:59] <qwerty2k> sethk, ive tried -15 as well, no change
[10:59] <micahcowan> gdb, it's in terms of the signal sent to it via the cable.
[11:00] <ColdDeath> PeterPowell: Is the install working now?
[11:00] <nu> =D
[11:00] <sethk> qwerty2k, try increasing the priority of the player process
[11:00] <Dodzey> the most important factor of a LCD is the number of milliseconds it takes to redraw the screen
[11:00] <nu> bit_doidao: are you still here bit?
[11:00] <micahcowan> the monitor of course doesn't actually need to deal with syncing an el gun...
[11:00] <Tamale> micahcowan: yes, 283290 monitors  lol
[11:00] <qwerty2k> sethk, it isnt in my list since its a plugin for firefox....
[11:01] <gdb> nu: did that work to get it converted?
[11:01] <micahcowan> Tamale, holy something. What's that setup for?
[11:01] <sethk> qwerty2k, use a player instead of a plugin
[11:01] <Tamale> micahcowan: I'm yankin your chain dude.
[11:01] <nu> gdb: i haven't tried yet. but bit_doidao suggested i install ms fonts to fix the font problem in firefox
[11:01] <Tamale> micahcowan: all the way back from 10,000 hz
[11:01] <qwerty2k> i cant....its streaming through flash....
[11:01] <gdb> nu: what's wrong with your fonts in firefox?
[11:01] <nu> gdb: i was wondering what he meant. just bring them from windows?
[11:01] <nu> gdb: they look a little weird. just a little
[11:02] <Dodzey> i have a problem with flash in firefox (and flock)... I have no sound
[11:02] <nu> gdb: especially the links
[11:02] <gdb> nu: no, he means enable the multiverse respository and install the package msttcorefonts
[11:02] <micahcowan> Tamale, I suspected.
[11:02] <micahcowan> :-)
[11:02] <nu> How do i enable multiverse, gdb
[11:02] <micahcowan> But you said 10,000 hz, which is probably about what the old monochrome CRTs were doing (I have no clue)
[11:02] <Tamale> qwerty2k, sethk,  If his CPU really is spiking to 100%, chances are whatever's monitoring the firefox usage won't accurately report how much firefox is taking.
[11:03] <micahcowan> And, a large multi-monitor setup'd probably do a good deal less than that. :-)
[11:03] <Tamale> micahcowan: actually high refresh rates are new
[11:03] <qwerty2k> Tamale, is it worth trying say swiftfox? or opera?
[11:03] <gjoogjoob> hello\
[11:03] <Tamale> micahcowan: old CRTs were slow
[11:03] <LnxSlck> bit_doidao: are u brasilian ?
[11:03] <gjoogjoob> I have a problem setting up my wireless network
[11:03] <Tamale> qwerty2k: absolutely.  give opera a try
[11:03] <gjoogjoob> it just like, doesn't work
[11:03] <LnxSlck> qwerty2k: try mozilla or seamonkey
[11:03] <nemlah> Hello all.. i just upgraded and got a libpango package.. where can i see why the update occured..??
[11:03] <micahcowan> micahcowan, but they /had/ refresh rates. I just don't know what they /were/.
[11:03] <micahcowan> *Tamale
[11:03] <SkaFreak> Yeah, I'm personally a big fan of opera
[11:04] <gdb> nu: You can use the System > Administration > Software Properties control panel to do that, assuming XFCE provides similar menu structure.
[11:04] <nemlah> could it be a mem leak fix?
[11:04] <gjoogjoob> I enter in the ESSID and password info, but it doesn't connect
[11:04] <qwerty2k> installing opera first. see if that works
[11:04] <micahcowan> oh, and I read that as a couple thousand monitors, not as a couple hundred thousand... :-)
[11:04] <gdb> nu: Ah, looks like "sudo software-properties" should work, too.
[11:04] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob: make sure you have the WPA (hex or string) set right
[11:05] <nu> gdb: thank you, will try
[11:05] <gjoogjoob> i do
[11:05] <qwerty2k> ubuntu repo's are being well slow recently :(
[11:05] <gdb> nu: I have a file called multiverse.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d instead.  I prefer this method to editing /etc/apt/sources.list personally.
[11:05] <Tamale> is there any way to get semi-decent speeds with 3D applications when running XGL / compiz?
[11:05] <Tamale> or is that just the nature of the beast?
[11:05] <gjoogjoob> the password is correct
[11:05] <gdb> nu: Actually, hang on a second.
[11:05] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob:sure you haven't set it as string when it might be hex?
[11:05] <nu> gdb: ok
[11:06] <gjoogjoob> I'm not sure
[11:06] <gjoogjoob> I'll try that
[11:06] <gdb> I'm going to pastebin a couple *.list files you can put in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory.
[11:06] <qwerty2k> Tamale, launch the 3d app in a new xwindow (i think that wot you do), there is a thnigy on ubuntu about it then you get full good 3d performance
[11:06] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob: if its on Plain ASCII just try Hexidecimal, i did that the first time, set the wrong one
[11:06] <goonies> my wireless connection seems to drop every 15 minutes, can someone help me figure out the problem
[11:06] <ucordes> anybody knows an easy way to check if a dvb-t usb works propper?
[11:07] <ucordes> goonies: you allready checked if you have a stable signal?
[11:07] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19721
[11:07] <goonies> ucordes, how do u check that
[11:07] <niruana> hi all, does Ubuntu come with madwifi drivers if i have a atheros wifi card?
[11:07] <goonies> well network manager rates it at 100% if thats what u mean
[11:08] <qwerty2k> in opera i get a slight sound blip but not half as bad as i did with firefox
[11:08] <gdb> nu: Cut and paste those files into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/multiverse.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/universe.list then run apt-get update and then apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:08] <goonies> this works flawless in windows
[11:08] <gdb> nu: it will install 2 packages, msttcorefonts and cabextract.
[11:08] <ucordes> goonies: you should have a fancy green bar, top right that shows your wireless status. click on it to get more info
[11:08] <nu> gdb: will do. give me a sec
[11:08] <goonies> i dont have a fany green bar =P
[11:09] <goonies> fancy*
[11:09] <goonies> what did u install to get it
[11:09] <niruana> hi all, does Ubuntu come with madwifi drivers if i have a atheros wifi card?
[11:09] <nu> gdb:  so i just copy that whole thing and paste into those two files?
[11:09] <azureal> lo, trying to get a horrible graphics card working... in lscpi it says it's an intel 915gm... any ideas for drivers?
[11:09] <ucordes> goonies: you can also check it out in console: iwlist eth0 scan <- where eth0 is your network interface
[11:09] <nu> niruana: if you have atheros, it will autodetect it for you
[11:10] <azureal> (at least trying to get its acceleration working)
[11:10] <goonies> ok
[11:10] <nu> niruana: no need to use madwifi or ndiswrapper
[11:10] <sethk> azureal, the normal install will choose the correct drivers for that video chipset
[11:10] <azureal> sethk: they're not good ennough
[11:10] <niruana> ok so the ubuntu drivers work with airplay and airdump nu  ?
[11:10] <azureal> enough*
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> niruana: You may want madwifi-ng (or 0.92) its much better
[11:10] <niruana> ok h3sp4wn
[11:10] <niruana> i'l install it then
[11:10] <nu> niruana: idont know.
[11:10] <niruana> thx
[11:11] <ucordes> goonies: nothing it was there out of the box. just right click your panel and click add to panel. you should see network monitor
[11:11] <nu> gdb: you there?
[11:11] <goonies> ucordes, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19722
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> niruana: Just use wext if you are going to setup wpa_supplicant
[11:11] <Dodzey> any ideas how to fix the fact that i have no sound in flash videos
[11:11] <azureal> sethk: transparency craps out
[11:11] <goonies> ucordes, its at 100%
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> Dodzey: aoss /usr/bin/firefox
[11:12] <ucordes> goonies: permanently?
[11:12] <niruana> hmm h3sp4wn  i was still not able to make WPA working on Ubuntu...
[11:12] <goonies> yeah
[11:12] <goonies> doesnt move
[11:12] <goonies> which is probaly wrong
[11:12] <nu> niruana: do you have atheros chipset?
[11:12] <goonies> but i know my wireless adapter works flawlessly on windows
[11:12] <niruana> yes
[11:12] <niruana> yes nu
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> niruana: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (works perfectly if you just follow the instructions there)
[11:12] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn:will I have to install alsa-oss package?
[11:12] <goonies> same position its at
[11:13] <benjaminwr> hi has anyone tried to connect a usb drive after installing ifs on windows to access linux partitions??
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> Dodzey: yes
[11:13] <nu> niruana: type iwconfig and see if its assigned to ath0
[11:13] <niruana> its assigned...
[11:13] <niruana> and it works
[11:13] <nu> niruana: does it show the access point name?
[11:13] <bit_doidao> nu, sudo apt-get install gnome-screenshot
[11:13] <sethk> azrael0, that's really odd, but I'm not sure it's a driver issue
[11:13] <nu> bit_doidao: thank you!!!
[11:14] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  what is wext?
[11:14] <timhaughton> Question: When I add a Windows share to Gnome, it adds a link on my desktop. Anyone know how to get rid of them? I still want to have the shares mounted, I just think it's OK for them to be listed in Nautilus.
[11:14] <ucordes> goonies: ok then your interface does not support signal quality then.
[11:14] <benjaminwr> hi has anyone tried to connect a usb drive after installing ifs on windows to access linux partitions??
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> niruana: Oh and don't try to use networkmanager because it will make your connection unreliable (unless you use madwifi-ng and rebuild wpa_supplicant - with the madwifi-ng headers)
[11:14] <ucordes> goonies: may i ask what your ap is? you in a college or something?
[11:14] <goonies> ap?
[11:14] <goonies> whats ap
[11:14] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn: so can i change the dsp in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to use aoss?
[11:14] <goonies> im not in college
[11:14] <goonies> im at home
[11:15] <ucordes> ap is access point
[11:15] <goonies> linksys wrt54gs
[11:15] <ucordes> you the only user which connects through this wireless?
[11:15] <goonies> if thats what u mean
[11:15] <ucordes> yes
[11:15] <gdb> nu: yeah, back, sorry
[11:15] <goonies> at the moment i am
[11:15] <fdsd> does anyone here use bittorrent?
[11:15] <gdb> nu: did that work for you?
[11:15] <fdsd> -curses?
[11:15] <goonies> but no im not the only user
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> Dodzey: Not as far as I know its a hack
[11:15] <azureal> hmm... about sound... why is it that while playing music, a flash (for example) on firefox will not have sound?
[11:15] <lakcaj> Hi.  How can I get rid of the tab completion that ubuntu has setup, and just use default tab completion?
[11:15] <goonies> another computer which is off at the moment connects to it as well
[11:16] <azureal> i've seen this happen before... when more than one prog demands sound...
[11:16] <wheels3572> what is the nm-applet?
[11:16] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn: agh, it doesnt work anyway
[11:16] <ucordes> fdsd: i'm using the ktorrent client
[11:16] <gdb> nu: no, you can tell where the files begin and end by looking for the command lines where i displayed them
[11:16] <ucordes> goonies: did you install any driver for your interface?
[11:16] <benjaminwr> hi has anyone tried to connect a usb drive after installing ifs on windows to access linux partitions??
[11:16] <gdb> cbell@demeter:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/multiverse.list
[11:16] <gdb> is a command line
[11:16] <fdsd> ucordes, any good?
[11:16] <goonies> ndiswrapper 1.21 and the latest xp linksys driver
[11:17] <benjaminwr> im trying to migrate to ext3 from ntfs but i need to make the backup and windows just creates a dummy drive
[11:17] <nu> gdb: i haven't done it yet. i copy and paste that (without your command line prompt) into those two files you told me, right? and if so, so i replace it or just add on to it?
[11:17] <ucordes> fdsd: works great for me
[11:17] <gdb> nu: ?
[11:17] <sethk> azrael0, usually because a sound server is not running.  the sound server allows multiple apps to use sound at the same time
[11:17] <goonies> benjaminwr, u can read/write to ntfs now on nix =P
[11:17] <goonies> just in case u didnt know
[11:17] <mumbles> ok - i am having problems installing ubuntu dapper.
[11:17] <benjaminwr> is it stable?
[11:17] <azureal> sethk: i'm azureal, but ok
[11:17] <gdb> nu: The one for multiverse.list goes in a file called "multiverse.list" in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:17] <goonies> stable for me
[11:17] <goonies> =)
[11:17] <Macskeeball> Would someone using Ubuntu Server 6.06 who has not changed the UID of the non-root user account setup during install please tell me what number they get when they enter: echo $UID
[11:17] <gdb> nu: The one for universe.list goes in a file called "universe.list" in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:17] <goonies> i havent had any problems
[11:17] <goonies> back to my wireless =P
[11:17] <benjaminwr> i have all my uni work on there and wouldnd like to loose it
[11:18] <azureal> sethk: so how do you run "the sound server"
[11:18] <goonies> well if its a production machine and ur scared of using beta dont do it
[11:18] <Niall> hey guys have just installed an ati driver of some sorts and looking for a way to restore my previous config
[11:18] <ucordes> yea
[11:18] <goonies> but it has worked perfectly for those who have tried it so far
[11:18] <benjaminwr> apart from the fact that I am really stating to hate goin into windows to do anything apart from gaming
[11:18] <nu> gdb: so copy and paste into universe.list. got it
[11:18] <benjaminwr> id rather have things linux native but thebugger wont read
[11:18] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn: works, my mistake, also if edit the FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" it permantly fixes it so i dont have to use the aoss <command>
[11:18] <aujordanh> my wireless will not connect on startup, would someone mind taking a look at my /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <DarkAudit> What in KDE would cause my font settings in GNOME to be ignored?
[11:19] <ucordes> i don't know what's the matter with your conenction. the problem is we can't say wether you got any signal problems cause of ndiswrapper
[11:19] <nu> gdb: replace my universe.list with that, or add that onto my current universe.list?
[11:19] <goonies> benjaminwr, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[11:19] <soumyadip> I'm getting this error when I try to install or remove packages using apt : dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `hplip' in statoverride file
[11:19] <soumyadip> how do I rectify this ?
[11:19] <gdb> nu: You  have a universe.list file already?
[11:19] <nu> Ill check
[11:19] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  could you look in your pm ?
[11:19] <goonies> ucordes, well i can tell what my signal strength is on windows =\
[11:19] <benjaminwr> ill have a llok at it thanks im goint to give it another try
[11:19] <goonies> is it a linux thing =\
[11:19] <mumbles> anyone else having problems installing ubuntu ?
[11:19] <gdb> nu: There shouldn't be anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d on a default installation.
[11:19] <ucordes> goonies: so you gotta know wether you get a stable signal or not
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> niruana: Don't appear to have any
[11:19] <benjaminwr> i can't detect my usb drive in ubuntu
[11:19] <wheels3572> what is the nm-applet?
[11:19] <Niall> can anyone tell me a way of getting my X  display working again
[11:19] <goonies> i cant even update without it stalling
[11:19] <nu> gdb: youre right, there isnt
[11:20] <benjaminwr> but i know other usb drives are detected
[11:20] <gdb> nu: You should be creating new files here, yes.
[11:20] <nu> gdb: but it wont let me create one either
[11:20] <goonies> ucordes, i see
[11:20] <gdb> nu: You need to do this as root with sudo -i or something.
[11:20] <benjaminwr> how could i probe to see if the system has detected something?
[11:20] <iskander> Hi
[11:20] <gdb> nu: as in 'sudo -i' and then run the commands.
[11:20] <nu> so do it all through terminal huh
[11:20] <gdb> nu: alternatively, you can create these 2 files on your desktop, and then use sudo to move them into place.
[11:21] <nu> gdb: will do that.
[11:21] <goonies> only way to have it connect again is by unplugging adapter and plugging it again
[11:21] <gdb> nu: like "sudo cp Desktop/*.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[11:21] <nu> gdb: brb soon to tell you how it went
[11:21] <gdb> nu: han gon
[11:21] <gdb> er hang on
[11:21] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  could you please join the channel #bleh
[11:21] <Macskeeball> never mind. I found out that Ubuntu's default UID is 1000 with a search. Now I can revert back Thanks anyway.
[11:21] <gdb> nu: one last thing, be sure you're putting the files in the directory sources.list.d and NOT overwriting the file sources.list
[11:21] <ucordes> goonies: so all 15 minutes you replug your usb stick?
 are u here man
[11:22] <goonies> on a as needed basis
[11:22] <goonies> yeah
[11:22] <goonies> i wouldnt say exactly every 15 minutes
[11:22] <goonies> every now and then it just disconnects
[11:22] <goonies> bar turns yellow
[11:22] <goonies> and it says disconnected
[11:22] <bobbyd> hi
[11:22] <bobbyd> where do I find the network install iso
[11:23] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  could you please join the channel #bleh, because a pm isnt allowed on this irc server
[11:23] <gdb> niruana: it is allowed, you simply need to register your nick
[11:23] <nu> gdb: ok i copied it there
[11:24] <TheEye> help!!!!!
[11:24] <gdb> nu: so you have 2 files named multiverse.list and one named universe.list?
[11:24] <keiaah> Whats up with the servers? I am using this repo http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources. And my download rate is about 50 kb/s. Usually its over 800 kb/s. Anyone else having this problem?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> niruana: I don't agree with doing that because it ends up with people asking me every single little thing (and not attempting to solve the issue themselves) I don't mind helping people help themselves but won't do that sort of stuff (except for money)
[11:24] <gdb> nu: could you tell which information went in which file from the pastebin I put up?
[11:24] <TheEye> ok i have a pppoe issue
[11:24] <ucordes> goonies: you know what chipset your interface is? how far is ap from it?
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know a quick way of  restoring original ati driver in ubuntu
[11:24] <nu> gdb: hold one one second. i have universe.list, which contains the content in that link you showed me a while back
[11:25] <nu> gdb: sorry if im doing it wrong, im new to linux
[11:25] <gdb> nu: ...
[11:25] <gdb> nu: ok, hang on, i'll post them separately
[11:25] <nu> gdb: lol okay
[11:25] <goonies> ucordes, uhm, rt2500usb, about 20 feet
[11:25] <Lars_G> Greetings all
[11:25] <goonies> 1 wall
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> Paddy_EIRE: sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i
[11:26] <Lars_G> if I have the sources to build several packages, is there any way to build only one of the subpackages with dpkg-buildpackage????
[11:26] <TheEye> i run ubuntu off the live cd on a ppc i got it to connect to the inet using my usb port and my highspeed connection how ever my 808.11b card isnt there like ubuntu wont reconizze it n e ideas??
 cheers mate
[11:26] <ucordes> well signal should be fine then
[11:26] <tzard> anyone know of a couple ways to keep Xorg from tying up cpu resources?
[11:26] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19724 - the entire contents of universe.list
[11:26] <wheels3572> How can I tell if I have the nm applet in Xubuntu?
[11:26] <ucordes> or maybe you can some kind of intergalactic interfernce on 2,4ghz or something ^^
[11:26] <ucordes> have
[11:26] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19725 - the entire contents of multiverse.list
[11:27] <goonies> ucordes, on windows it works flawlessly
[11:27] <nu> gdb: ok. give me one sec. doing it now
[11:27] <TheEye> oh and ne one got a compiled copy pof xchat i cant get it to compile and i with out an ubunclue
[11:27] <gdb> nu: You can just click "download" at the top of each of those posts and save the file with the correct name.
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Paddy_EIRE: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/fglrx/ati/i' /etc/X11/xorg.conf (you may or may not need that step)
[11:27] <fiXXXerMet> 'm install Ubuntu on a dual-cpu machine (2x PIII 850s).  What kernel should I choose?  linux-686-smp?  THere's a bunch, but that's the only one that says smp
[11:28] <TheEye> pm me if you can help
 excellent man, gonna try this now
[11:28] <ucordes> goonies: if i knew how you could try to debug your connection and see what happens when the disc. appears. but if you can't even tell what signal quality you have...
[11:28] <DarkAudit> As I was saying before the lag killed me... I'm having trouble getting the Applications font to change in GNOME, and I think it's something to do with me running KDE before I switched over to GNOME
[11:28] <goonies> ucordes, ive just about quit
[11:28] <goonies> thanks for your time and help
[11:28] <goonies> took me all day to get it working
[11:29] <ucordes> goonies: i can't help you then
[11:29] <goonies> now i wont let it take me all night to get it stable
[11:29] <ucordes> hey i know ndiswrapper ;-) can be very crappy...
[11:29] <goonies> i cant believe such a popular name brand like linksys isnt fully supported somehow
[11:29] <ucordes> had to use it to before i switched to an atheros interface
[11:30] <TheEye> i think im gonna try suse
[11:30] <goonies> is there really that many wireless usb adapters out there
[11:30] <Dodzey> goonies, its like any hardware in linux, its not that linux doesnt support it, its that the manufacturers dont support linux ;-)
[11:30] <ucordes> same here for my old broadcom interface... it allways depends on your chipset, not the brand
[11:30] <goonies> i understand that Dodzey
[11:30] <acojlo> any benefit if I use totem-xine?
[11:30] <ucordes> many adapters but not that many chipsets
[11:31] <goonies> =\
[11:31] <goonies> so many people have problems with the usb adapter i have heh
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> The later versions of ndiswrapper (for ra2500) work better than the native drivers for pcmcia
[11:31] <goonies> and some people have got it to be stable and dont tell the world how they did it
[11:31] <ucordes> so you on the good side with ndis
[11:32] <goonies> dont know heh, cant download anything without it stalling
[11:32] <nu> gdb: done
[11:32] <niruana> any idea why ubuntu says: Command make unknown
[11:33] <goonies> got to install build-essentials
[11:33] <goonies> and
[11:33] <goonies> kernel-headers i believe
[11:33] <nu> niruana: you have to install it lol
[11:33] <acojlo> how to specify to totem to use xshm - anyway I do not see picture - just hear sound
[11:33] <gandalfcome> can anyone help me with my ubuntu network problem: I use a static ip on ubuntu 6.06 but linux seems to loose this adress every five minutes and i have to deactivate and then activate the interface. any ideads?
[11:33] <nu> niruana: you can search for 'make' in Syanptic
[11:33] <trogbot> Need help solving Cups/Samba problem w/ptr....any takers?
[11:33] <goonies> lol gandalfcome im going through the same thing
[11:33] <nu> gdb: I did it.
[11:33] <goonies> well not really
[11:33] <niruana> nu: apt-get install make ? :P
[11:34] <goonies> i lose my wireless connection every now and then and cant download crap without it stalling
[11:34] <gandalfcome> what prob do you have?
[11:34] <trogbot> Everthing looks ok config wise...printout goes to printer, but no output?
[11:34] <gandalfcome> no i have a copper connection
[11:34] <niruana> goonies: what router do you have?
[11:34] <nu> niruana: or that too :D
[11:34] <gandalfcome> it seems to just forget my settings
[11:34] <goonies> linksys wrt54gs
[11:34] <gandalfcome> after a few minutes
[11:34] <odla> does anyone know how to link the flashplayer-plugin installed via apt-get with flock?
[11:35] <cdubya> trogbot, just ask. :)
[11:35] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, but i forgot, lol gimme a sec
[11:35] <Dodzey> odla: where have you got flock installed to?
[11:36] <odla> to /opt
[11:36] <micahcowan> gandalfcome what tool do you use to configure your IP, and is it desktop or server?
[11:36] <niruana> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[11:36] <niruana> :(
[11:36] <odla> i followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntuos.com/
[11:36] <trogbot> cdubya:  Printer is defined & set to default..test print goes to printer according to cups, but i get no output on printer...any ideas?
[11:36] <odla> it's /opt/flock
[11:36] <cdubya> trogbot, what's the setup?
[11:37] <msikma> Hey guys. Someone has a problem with Ubuntu (locks up during usplash). Which mailing list should I recommend to him?
[11:37] <RobNyc>  I upgraded to edgy which I shouldn't of done. now my X is broken and I want to downgrade to Dapper how can I ?
[11:37] <trogbot> cdubya:  Sorry...in which way...setup that is.
[11:38] <Dodzey> odla:let me just find the file locations
[11:38] <odla> ok
[11:38] <Dodzey> odla:and ill tell you want to link
[11:38] <Dodzey> odla:did you install the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[11:38] <mlehrer> how do i make ubuntu's gnome desktop save the settings?  e.g. where all of the program windows are, and which applications to start next time i log in
[11:38] <odla> yup
[11:38] <mlehrer> in the previous version, there was a checkbox wasn't there
[11:38] <cdubya> trogbot, what kinda printer, what's it hooked up to, did you setup smbpasswd, etc......
[11:39] <clever> what package do i install for a dhcp server/deamon?
[11:39] <odla> i need to soft link java too
[11:39] <trogbot> cdubya:  It's an HP Printer.  I have access to both cups/samba via browser...I spent about a week getting everything set up
[11:39] <Dodzey> odla:ok you want to ln -s  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /opt/flock/plugins/
[11:40] <cablesm102> I have a problem with sound it flash.
[11:40] <cablesm102> *sound in flash
[11:40] <cdubya> trogbot, but is the machine it's hooked up to a linux box?
[11:40] <acojlo> synaptics want's to remove 'gnome' when I try to install 'totem-xine' ok?
[11:40] <fiXXXerMet> No matter what kernel I choose, the install fails.  Is there something I can do?
[11:40] <Dodzey> odla: then do the same but change libflashplayer.so for flashplayer.xpt
[11:40] <mlehrer> is it possible to save my desktop settings in ubuntu when i log out
[11:40] <cablesm102> Sound will not work in flash applets. (firefox 1.5)
[11:40] <trogbot> cdubya:  and all was working fine for my win users and myself, then applied updates to Ubuntu and it quit...yes linux.
[11:40] <mlehrer> if you kill esd it might work better
[11:41] <odla> Dodzey: ok great
[11:41] <Dodzey> cablesm102: try running aoss /usr/bin/firefox
[11:41] <clever> yeah now that i think my flash has been deaf also
[11:41] <azureal> bleh...anyone have any ideas about 3d acceleration on an intel chipset graphics card?
[11:41] <azureal> old ubuntu threads dont appear to help =/
[11:41] <odla> Dodzey: that worked :)...any ideas on how to do it with java?
[11:41] <mlehrer> azureal: i had good luck with an i845
[11:41] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, gimme 2 secs
[11:42] <mlehrer> i wouldn't try to play warcraft or anything
[11:42] <cablesm102> I am also having a problem with sound in audacity
[11:42] <odla> Dodzey: np..
[11:42] <mlehrer> but xscreensaver looked ok
[11:42] <cdubya> trogbot, so you've checked your samba setup
[11:42] <tuxtux_> notte a tutti
[11:42] <Dodzey> cablesm102: for that firefox trick you have to have alsa-oss package installed
[11:42] <Ireclan> Okeydokey...
[11:42] <Anderson> Hello all
[11:42] <trogbot> cdubya:  yes, it all looks good as far as i can tell.
[11:42] <Ireclan> I have a bit of a dilemma.
[11:42] <micahcowan> hi
[11:43] <clever> what package do i install for a dhcp server/deamon?
[11:43] <Anderson> micahcowan, how's the weather?
[11:43] <nu> gdb: ?
[11:43] <Ireclan> Ubuntu Dapper Drake will not install.
[11:43] <micahcowan> sunny :)
[11:43] <cablesm102> Dodzey, AOSS returns command not found
[11:43] <Ireclan> It hangs during the second step.
[11:43] <trogbot> cdubya:  it won't even print now from my linux box...even though it sends it to printer.
[11:43] <azureal> mlehrer: according to lspci i have a  intel 915GM, and according to /etc/X11/xorg.conf I have an i810 driver
[11:43] <azureal> an*
[11:43] <Anderson> micahcowan, Sounds nice.  Sunny here as well.
[11:43] <clever> Anderson: i can hear thunder
[11:43] <Plouj> I am trying to install ubuntu amd64 6.06 on /dev/sdc. I chose the "erase the whole disk" option, but it seems that the installer didn't write a boot loader to sdc's MBR. When I try to boot to that disk nothing happens. I don't see any grub.
[11:44] <clever> and i have 6 computers running
[11:44] <Dodzey> odla: depending on what version of java you have it'll be something like...  ln -s  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/flock/plugins/
[11:44] <cablesm102> Can someone help me fix audio in Audacity and Flash?
[11:44] <Dodzey> but that folder may be different
[11:44] <gdb> nu: ah good
[11:44] <odla> Dodzey: ok thanks
[11:44] <gdb> nu: did you run apt-get update?
[11:44] <cdubya> trogbot, just a thought, but have you tried removing the printer......closing the print manager, then reopening it and setting it up again?
[11:44] <gdb> nu: as root/
[11:44] <gdb> ?
[11:44] <Dodzey> browse too it, see what your folders are called
[11:44] <trogbot> cdubya:  I've tried deleting, creating new one..re-installing cups/samba, etc...nothing works.
[11:44] <Ireclan> So.....any thoughts?
[11:44] <cdubya> trogbot, hmm....can you get to the shares ok?
[11:44] <nu> gdb: doing it now
[11:44] <Dodzey> cablesm102: install alsa-oss
[11:45] <Dodzey> cablesm102: then aoss will work
[11:45] <trogbot> cdubya:   Which shares u referring to?
[11:45] <Knut> hello
[11:45] <Knut> need help bei config my network
[11:45] <cdubya> trogbot, any shares you are running with samba
[11:45] <Renan_s2> Anybody here knows any program to manage .pdf files?
[11:45] <mint|Alex> adobe acrobat
[11:45] <mint|Alex> lol
[11:45] <odla> Dodzey: thanks
[11:45] <cdubya> trogbot, for example, if you're sharing the user homes
[11:46] <nu> !paste > gdc E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:46] <nu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:46] <odla> Dodzey: oh wait...flock crashes immediately
[11:46] <xsimo> apple allow you to create pdf files
[11:46] <micahcowan> Renan_s2, define "manage"? For viewing, xpdf is actually my favorite. lame interface, but still the best IMO
[11:46] <Renan_s2> mint|Alex, I want to manage them (i.e. sort by type/author/date/whatever)
[11:46] <Dodzey> odla:ohh
[11:46] <nu> oops
[11:46] <Ireclan> None?
[11:46] <gdb> nu: that's with 'sudo apt-get update'?
[11:46] <Renan_s2> micahcowan, manage = sort by author/date/subject/...
[11:46] <trogbot> cdubya: The only share I have is the printer...trying to get away from windoz, but need to support printing for my win users.
[11:46] <Ireclan> Whatsoever?
[11:46] <nu> yes. it seemed to have downloaded everything
[11:46] <Dodzey> odla:strange that....but it works fine without  java plugin linked?
[11:46] <odla> yeah
[11:46] <gdb> nu: Yeah, you must have synaptic or something running also.
[11:46] <micahcowan> Renan_s2, to my knowledge, no simple package to do that. If you install xpdf, you could use pdfinfo to write some good shell scripts, if you like to get your hands dirty...
[11:46] <Knut> dhcp doesnt work, and if i configure network manually it doesnt work too
[11:46] <trogbot> cdubya:  For the time being that is...maybe later will try other shares.
[11:47] <gdb> nu: you can't be running any other package manager at the same time
[11:47] <Plouj> any ideas why ubuntu doesn't write grub to that disk's MBR?
[11:47] <Knut> network card and cable are both ok
[11:47] <Renan_s2> micahcowan, I could try.
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, the reason I ask is that it would be good to make sure that samba's playing nice
[11:47] <LnxSlck> mint|Alex:  do u know a repo to get acrebat reader ?
[11:47] <Dodzey> odla: did you have to modify that command i have you? or do you have same version?
[11:47] <nu> gdb: ok ill close it. i have synaptic runnng
[11:47] <gdb> nu: :-)
[11:47] <Ireclan> Surely it's not normal for Ubuntu to just hang like that.
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, ps ax | smbd
[11:47] <Dodzey> cablesm102: did installing alsa-oss work?
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, err, ps ax | grep smbd
[11:47] <odla> Dodzey: modify it to just java-1.5.0-sun
[11:47] <trogbot> cdubya: How can I do that?
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, in a terminal
[11:47] <nu> gdb:  done =F
[11:48] <trogbot> cdubya: hang on a sec.
[11:48] <sethk> Ireclan, of course that's not normal
[11:48] <gdb> nu: It's done running apt-get update now?
[11:48] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, should still work
[11:48] <odla> Dodzey: i think i might have it now...ok i fixed it
[11:48] <Ireclan> I figured it wasn't.
[11:48] <nu> gdb: yep
[11:48] <gdb> nu: Now run "apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[11:48] <Dodzey> odla: ok, cool
[11:48] <sethk> Ireclan, what is the last thing you see before it stops?
[11:48] <odla> Dodzey: i just need /ns7/libjavaplugin
[11:48] <Dodzey> if you have no sound in flash then you have to do what ive been discussing with cablesm102
[11:49] <nu> gdb: it's in process. *crosses fingers*
[11:49] <Ireclan> Step 2 of the installation process. I tried installing in safe mode, but X-Server crashed.
[11:49] <legendx> exit
[11:49] <cdubya> trogbot, you try that/
[11:49] <gdb> nu: Once those are done being installed, you'll need to completely exit firefox and restart it to see any effect.
[11:49] <sethk> Ireclan, try installing in command line mode, without trying to run the X server
[11:49] <odla> Dodzey: ah wait it now crashes when running java applets
[11:49] <nu> gdb: Gotcha. i just hope it works
[11:49] <gdb> nu: that includes every firefox "helper" window like "Manage Bookmarks" "Downloads" and whatever else.
[11:49] <gdb> nu: :-D
[11:50] <Dodzey> odla: ok, what files do you ahve linked to /opt/flock/plugins?
[11:50] <Ireclan> I have no clue how to do that. You want to hear the funny part?
[11:50] <nu> gdb: it's been stuck here for a while now: 33% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.182)] 
[11:50] <Ireclan> Kubuntu does just fine where Ubuntu hangs.
[11:50] <gdb> nu: Unfortunately that's been the norm the last few days.  If it stays hung, ^C out and run the command again.
[11:50] <nu> gdb: okie
[11:50] <sethk> Ireclan, same underlying version?
[11:50] <sethk> Ireclan, that is very odd
[11:50] <Ireclan> Yep.
[11:51] <Ireclan> Same version.
[11:51] <nu> lol now it hung at 0%
[11:51] <sethk> Ireclan, because (of course) neither gnome nor kde is running or installed at that point
[11:51] <nu> server must be busy
[11:51] <odla> Dodzey: flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so  libnullplugin.so
[11:51] <masquerade> I just finished the installation for ubuntu (AMD64), and I'm getting "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init" on boot, it looks like device drivers are getting, kernel memory freed, and then I get "/bin/sh: Can't open /init" followed immediately by thep anic
[11:51] <sethk> Ireclan, use the kubuntu cd to install a minimal system, then install the gnome desktop (assuming you don't want kde.  I use kde)
[11:51] <keiaah> Im trying to install Wine with WoW patch from the wiki now. Anyone using it, and can confirm it works good?
[11:52] <Ireclan> Would you like to hear the word from X-Server?
[11:52] <trogbot> cdubya:  Output was:  8114  ?   Ss  0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D....8117  ?   S  0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D.....8731  pts/0  R+  0:00  gre[ s,bd
[11:52] <Dodzey> odla: and what folder is that libjavaplugin_oji.so pointing to?
[11:52] <odla> Dodzey: libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:52] <clever> what package do i install for a dhcp server/deamon?
[11:52] <sethk> Ireclan, if you think it might help, sure
[11:52] <azcazandco> hi, can anyone tell me why i keep getting the following error... E: mldonkey-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:53] <robertj> keiaah: I installed WoW on Dapper's built in wine with no problems
[11:53] <azcazandco> i get it whenever I try and do updates etc
[11:53] <cdubya> trogbot, k. you mentioned you were using an hp.....do you know if you were using anything like hplip that perhaps isn't being used now?
[11:53] <robertj> keiaah: I didn't download any patches or anything
[11:53] <Ireclan> It says I have a bad V_BIOS checksum.
[11:53] <Plouj> is this what your boot loader looks like, guys? http://sh.nu/p/2595
[11:53] <Dodzey> odla: just for proof of concept make a new link that uses the full version folder not just the 1.5.0 linked folder
[11:53] <Ireclan> Word for word:
[11:53] <keiaah> robertj, I am following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[11:53] <nu> gdb: done. but it didnt help =( font in firefox is still a bit weird
[11:53] <gauss> hello people one question. how do i do an online upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:54] <cdubya> !dapper
[11:54] <trogbot> cdubya:   Yes...it's using hplip now and also in the past when it was working.
[11:54] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[11:54] <gdb> nu: Well, are you sure that firefox was completely restarted?
[11:54] <cdubya> !upgrade
[11:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:54] <cdubya> gauss, ^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:54] <Ireclan> (WW) VESA (0): Bad V_BIOS checksum.
[11:54] <keiaah> gauss, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list...make it point to dapper and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:54] <Ireclan> Then:
[11:54] <cdubya> trogbot, weird
[11:55] <cdubya> trogbot, so you updated ubuntu and that's when it happened
[11:55] <nu> gdb: yes. let me take a screenshot and show you. whats the pastebin link?
[11:55] <Ireclan> (EE) VESA (0): No matching modes.
[11:55] <Ireclan> Then:
[11:55] <trogbot> cdubya:  I know...has me baffled...was when I updated that it went to crap.
[11:55] <robertj> keiaah: The current version of Wine (0.9.17) ... that's not right, dapper ships .9.9
[11:55] <IRC_> i am having a problem with my java 1.5.0 installation. i installed it first without sudo. then i reinstalled it with sudo and it keeps giving me all these messages about overriting
[11:55] <odla> Dodzey: i tried the full version folder
[11:55] <sethk> Ireclan, the bios message you can ignore
[11:55] <odla> Dodzey: and it crashes as well
[11:55] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:56] <keiaah> robertj, it 0.9.18
[11:56] <sethk> Ireclan, no matching modes means most likely that it has failed to correctly identify your monitor.
[11:56] <cdubya> gauss, you can do what keiaah suggests, but know that it's much easier following the graphical method using update-manager
[11:56] <Dodzey> odla: hmm, what permissions does the linked plugin have?
[11:56] <bobbyd> is there a good command line program to configure wifi connections?
[11:56] <sethk> Ireclan, which might explain why one cd works and the other does not.
[11:56] <Ireclan> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[11:56] <Knut> at the moment i use suse 10.1 with a seperate /home partition. can i use this partition with ubuntu too? so that i have two different systems with the same /home and /swap partition?
[11:56] <gauss> thanks guys i am at it!
[11:56] <trogbot> cdubya:   The updates did include stuff for cupsys; but since then I've reinstalled it and samba to no avial.
[11:56] <cdubya> gauss, and much less likely to break stuff if you don't know how or what exactly to do
[11:56] <sethk> Ireclan, right, once it fails to find a mode it can use, you are dead.
[11:56] <odla> Dodzey: root
[11:56] <cdubya> trogbot, that's messed up.
[11:56] <cdubya> trogbot.
[11:56] <cdubya> huh
[11:56] <Ireclan> So, what may I do about it?
[11:56] <Dodzey> odla: lrw-r--r-- ?
[11:56] <Renan_s2> !wmaker
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about wmaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:57] <cdubya> trogbot, hang on
[11:57] <Renan_s2> !windowmaker
[11:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about windowmaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:57] <odla> Dodzey: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
[11:57] <sethk> Ireclan, what I said before.  use the kubuntu cd to install a base system without a desktop, then use synaptic (or apt-get) to install gnome
[11:57] <IRC_>  i am having a problem with my java 1.5.0 installation. i installed it first without sudo. then i reinstalled it with sudo and it keeps giving me all these messages about overriting
[11:57] <OneTrueGoatKing> knut, that should be ok yes, just make sure user id's match
[11:57] <Dodzey> odla: hmm....myne is just lrw-r--r--
[11:57] <odla> Dodzey: ls -l libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:57] <odla> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 77 2006-08-04 15:54 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:57] <trogbot> cdubya:  matter of fact there have been a couple of updates concerning cups since the problem started, but I know of no way to back them out.
[11:57] <Ireclan> Could I just use KDE?
[11:57] <acojlo> amilo pro suspend 2 ram, anyone working?
[11:57] <micahcowan> !info wmaker
[11:57] <ubotu> wmaker: NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.92.0-5 (dapper), package size 2220 kB, installed size 6104 kB
[11:58] <Ireclan> Is KDE better, as good, or worse than Gnome?
[11:58] <vnXism> greetz :)
[11:58] <Renan_s2> Ireclan, that is personal choice
[11:58] <Tamale> Ireclan: It's just different  :)
[11:58] <Renan_s2> try both and decide
[11:58] <nu> gdb: http://www.ficti0n.com/gdb.png
[11:58] <Dodzey> odla:right, erm...let me think
[11:58] <micahcowan> Ireclan, it varies widely based on personal taste. I'm mostly neutral, myself.
[11:58] <Knut> okay OneTrueGoatKing. but does anyone try that, because i dont want to lose my data
[11:58] <Dodzey> odla: what java app you trying it with?
[11:59] <cdubya> trogbot, maybe something here?  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/39484
[11:59] <trogbot> cdubya:   I don't want to start from scratch w/new install from live cd.....yuck.
[11:59] <odla> Dodzey: just a chat applet off a website, i don't know any other quick java applets
[11:59] <Ireclan> So, one is not better nor worse? Both are equal?
[11:59] <mlehrer> so is it possible to save my desktop settings when i log out of an ubuntu gnome session
[11:59] <Tamale> KDE has Konqueror where Gnome has nautilus, right?
[11:59] <gdb> nu: 404 not found
[11:59] <trogbot> cdubya: ok....leit me go take a read.
[11:59] <OneTrueGoatKing> I've done it with boot cd's and such, mounted the filesystems
[11:59] <Dodzey> odla:http://www.crystalsquid.com/games/tjjx/trafficjx_play.php
[11:59] <Dodzey> try that
[11:59] <OneTrueGoatKing> Not on a day to day basis,
[11:59] <dcordes> how can i test DVB usb devices?
[11:59] <Dodzey> odla :just followed an add from suns java site
[12:00] <cdubya> trogbot, gotta go for a few....will check back when I get back home if you're still around......
[12:00] <sethk> Ireclan, kde and gnome, you mean?  I prefer kde, but it is entirely a matter of opinion, and the two have very similar functionality
[12:00] <mint|Alex> can someone please read my thread about compiling the ubuntu kernel - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1339525#post1339525
[12:00] <nu> !paste > gdb http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/play/gdb.png
[12:00] <ompaul> !compile
[12:00] <trogbot> cdubya: thanks for help...catch ya on the flip/flop.
[12:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:00] <Knut> okay.. i will try xubuntu, so byby and thanks OneTrueGoatKing
[12:00] <nu> gdb i think i just sent it to your PM
[12:00] <Tamale> sethk: Is KDE's Konqueror like Gnome's Nautilus?